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[Wilek and Werewolf Wilek glide in.]

Coyote> I've been keeping a running tally of our clone war, keeping track of how they died instead of where. Correct me if I'm wrong:

Coyote clone=death (all inflicted by Coyote except where noted)
Mad Hacker=blown away with shotgun (I think)
Nervous=wishboned by Goliath and Elisa
Runway Model=accidentally impaled self on boxcutter
Macho=shredded with boxcutter
Artiste=immolated
Insanely Egotistical Psycho Man=head blown off by Doug with plasma shotgun
Anal=killed with police riot gun
Pyromaniac=set self on fire
Clones still alive and referenced
Gearhead
Current count (dead/alive): 8/17

Wilek Clone=death
Male Chauvinist Pig=head blown up by Miriam with MIB-style Noisy Cricket
Cannibal=killed by Werewolf
Clones still alive and referenced
Werewolf
Current count: 2/23

I'm not sure of some of the deaths. I think the Mad Hacker may have fallen prey to a chaingun instead of a shotgun; I'm checking for historical accuracy.

Well, must run. [The Wileks glide off.]

Wilek Nereus
Sunday, September 27, 1998 11:53:30 PM
IP: tnt-1-176-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Sevarius Jr.: They were on sale. I'm a careful bargain shopper. I got them at 30% off.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:45:23 PM
IP: 207.91.254.68

What??!! 25 clones for $89.95? Gosh, that's awful cheap. I may have to talk pop into raising his rates. After all, I do have my eye on that Ferrari....
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:41:52 PM
IP: 207-172-54-212.s212.tnt16.brd.erols.com

[Wilek glides in to find one of his clones, Wilek the Cannibal, eyeing several CR dwellers in a very unnerving manner.] NO! [Suddenly, another clone, Wilek the Werewolf (who looks like Wilek with brown fur and a wolf snout), comes in and kills Wilek the Cannibal.] I think I'll keep Werewolf alive. He almost as sane and kewl-looking as I am, and I've always wanted a brother. :) It's 2 down 23 to go for my clones and 8/17 for Coyote's. I'm actually keeping a permanently archived scorecard. [Shenzi the caterer drags off Wilek the Cannibal's remains, muttering something about being rid of the competition.]

8 WHOLE DAYS TILL THE RISING AND CHRISTINE'S BOOK ISN'T OUT YET?!?!?! IT'S DRIVING ME NYRKSKIL! [Wilek rants incoherently for several hours.]

FS, have you thought perhaps that LM was abducted and operated on by aliens? Did she get a *very* good look and/or psychic impression of her assailants? Anything not quite human about them?

<<Miriam>> Mr. Nereus, perhaps this is an investigation best handled by myself and my organization. Look into this please. <flash> Thank you. [Miriam begins asking FS and LM many questions on the abduction topic.] <</Miriam>>

Uh...where was I? Oh. I forgot to mention an injury: When I was a very little baby hatchling (I was a cute little quacker), I've heard that I once broke my shoulder somehow. I don't remember that incident; my parents told me about it a few times.

Coyote> I'm not sure if this matters, but I didn't make up my name; I named myself from the Star Wars novel The Truce At Bakura and I think my name is the property of someone who I don't know who they are. I hope that doesn't make you have to put any annoying disclaimers on the pic or anything; I'm not in any way remotely similar to Bakura's Wilek Nereus. He was an Imperial Governor and a *complete* psychopath; pretty much how Geoffrey Fieger would be if he were ever elected. No one here (except maybe FS ^_^) wants to hear how he tried to kill Luke Skywalker.

Well, I'm---I mean *we're*!--off. [Just then Shenzi comes in with some steak sandwiches. Wilek and Werewolf Wilek each grab one and thank Shenzi in unison.] I sound so kewl in stereo. Well, bye all! [The two Wileks glide off.]

Wilek Nereus
Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:19:51 PM
IP: tnt-1-176-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**Coyote enters the room escorted by Coyote the Gearhead, carrying Coyote's birthday present from his aunt (a 14-piece 3/8 socket set).**

Hi again. Please, take some cake. I can't eat the whole thing!

Jessica, Sevarius Jr., Mandi: Okay, just for clarification on where the clones are coming from. Because my workload on WCC and my job is so immense, I ordered a set of 25 "categorized clones" from SJ's dad for $89.95 (so you weren't involved, SJ. Just to let you know, I know you weren't involved.). Thus far, 8 have died, and I keep bringing them with me in order to get rid of them.

**Coyote the Gearhead gives Coyote a dirty look.**

Well, everybody but the Gearhead, here. I need him. Everybody else has been a useless waste of time, though some of them I regretted killing. Just as a tally of who's died where:
the Mad Hacker - main s8 room
the Art-iste - main s8 room
the Nervous - TGS room
the Macho - TGS room
the Runway Model - TGS room
the Insanely Egotistical Psycho Man - main s8 room (by Doug, BTW. Thanks again, Doug. That'll teach him to break *my* toilet!)
the Anal - main s8 room
the Pyromaniac - TGS room (tonight)

They each have one annoying personality quirk which dominates their personalities. Quite frankly, they're driving me nuts. And I still have 17 left of my original 25.

So that's where they came from. And yes, I'm planning on keeping the Gearhead here alive, I need him with Lexington (the new car) and all.

Okay, enough stalling. Time to get to work on my next story!

**Coyote exits the room with his clone.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:17:16 PM
IP: 207.91.254.68

**The wall of the comment room ripples like a curtain, which parts to let Mandi through before it closes again.**

8 days??? Geez, I've been gone too long!

Accidents: Hmm, I really can't bear any major battle scars. I've never broken a bone (knock on wood) although I've gotten my share of bruises and scrapes. And I'm proud and happy to be able to say that: I'm already blind in one eye, so I tend to be very careful around sharp objects and other hazards. I'm still a klutz, but a lucky one.

Christine -- Have fun! Tell Tim happy birthday! Sorry about the books....@*($&%( mail service....BTW, if I am on your list, you're going to have to cross me off. I was talking with Mom on the phone yesterday, mentioned the book, and I found out she special ordered it for me for Christmas. She keeps saying she's never going to be able to surprise me on Christmas for some reason. :)

Coyote -- I've been woefully absent from the CR for quite a while, so please excuse my ignorance. That having been said, WHERE ARE ALL THESE CLONES COMING FROM??? ;) **She nudges a charred chair with her toe that Coyote the Pyromaniac got too close to, and it suddenly crumples into ash.** 17 more, and they're getting scarier all the time. I'm impressed you've been able to tolerate them so far.

I have work to do. So I will do it. Later, all!

**Mandi turns and nearly bashes her face into the wall. She stomps her foot and yells, "Come on!!" The wall parts, and she steps out, rubbing the knee she just bruised. The wall closes behind her.**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 09:49:46 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Todd you have a VERY sadist streak in you, don't you. You positively delight in listening to use wimper and moan and curse as we count the hours.

Christine would it help if I told you your crying towel is almost finished?
Happy birthday Tim.

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 09:47:46 PM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

(Brian Drags in a screaming and writhing comment room lawyer that looks like he has been under water for the past day , crabs are in his clothes snipping away , there are Sea Urchins down his back and there is a large fish tail sticking out of his shirt , his feet are freed of the cement but having been kept immobile for the longest time they have fallen asleep to an incredibly painful degree . Brian is slightly wet from carrying in the lawyer and fighting against his thrashing . Brian drops him onto his back and apologises as the the scream from the lawyer splits the comment room .) That man is SUCH a baby . And do'nt look at me like that I did'nt know it was an Urchin bed .

Lady Mystic : It's just that I have been having a round of Denge fever since last week Saturday . I only came in once a day then , but I did'nt post . I'm going to try to post at LEAST once a day hereofrth fear not .

Wilek : Be thankful that mosquito was just mechanical and did'nt happen to be carrying some long lasting , painful disease .

Firestorm : Operation for collapsed lung ?

Personal Injuries worthy of mention (in my opinion anyway ) :
Finger run under skate board . (No skeletal facture) , (my friend and I were both sitting on it .)
Finger torn up in sliding mechanism for car seat . (NSF)
Finger caught in heavily closing car door and front door .
Deep cut on first knuckle on index finger .
Crushed toe nail under lawn chair (Two people sitting on it .)
Elbows and knees torn up in a biking accident .
Scar from large boil on my right arm .
Stabbed myself with push point pencils , veryy sharp ordinary pencils and a pen .
Split the skin on me cheek bone as mentioned before .
Split the skin on the back of my skull against the edge of my patio .
Many small marks on my legs from a bad experience with a rose bush .
Inch long scar on the upper left section of my right eye socket from a pane ofl glass that fell on me from a poorly installed glass shelf .
And ten more scars that I cannot remember the cause of .

The worst injury that I have seen was a 1 and a half foot long gash in the right thigh , that went straight down to the bone . My friend swore to me to secrecy as to how he got it (I was the only witness) , even he does'nt know the exact object that did it , but I saw it all , made me wince something fierce .

Night folks .

(Brian is about to leave but he remembers the fish in the lawyers shirt , he comes back in and yanks the Barracuda free of the lawyers flesh resulting in another pained scream from him . Brian again walks ou as he goes over the recipe for the soup in his head .)

Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 09:45:05 PM
IP: 208.11.41.206

The rising in 8 days, yay!! Hmm let's see scars...um one on my throat from a cyst when I was about a year old..uh, that's about it, came in here to take a break from art history (exam tomorrow, ack!!) Hope you find your book Christine...lost mail sucks :( I missed this whole Coyote thing...oh well. Also trying out a new color, Kentucky Bluegrass. Never heard of that one...am I boring you all?
Eh I'll stop in later, happy gliding!

Jessica - [entisja@muohio.edu]
Cincinnati, OH, usa
Sunday, September 27, 1998 08:56:21 PM
IP: user.munet.muohio.edu

<Coyote: you description isn't quite clear.> That was the whole point!
I looked up vivisection in the dictionary: "Experimental operation on a living animal" Well, it was kinda of a experimental surgery and treatment.
Ok, so it was a operation, but what was the CAUSE?

Fire Storm - [Night-Moves@usa.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 08:54:55 PM
IP: dhcp204.visitus.net

Wilek: <<LM> You're probably right about Coyote. Oh, and psychoanalyzing FS is about as good a way as any of driving yourself almost as insane as he is. :D (j/k)>> You're welcome. And truth to tell FS is actually VERY easy for me to psychoanalyze. Trust me when I say this. On a lighter note: He drives me nuts when I am trying to drive the car. Watch out we're going to crash! **SKREACH ... BOOM, CRASH ... BANG** (silence)

Other injuries I forgot about>
MAJOR spraining of both knees. They were so bad that I had water on both knees. I almost had to have surgery to drain the fluids. (This happened from landing COMPLETELY wrong in gym class when we were doing gymnastics.)

Internal:
Infections of lungs (bronchial-pneumonia), throat (bad strep-throat), and other organs (you don't want to know).
And that thing FS talked about.

I've had many accidents, but either I heal very well or I can twist/dodge out of the situation.

Theresa: <<Chance is no longer a ball bearing mousetrap.>> <LOL> I love hearing about your furfoots. I'm glad to know that Chance didn't get to the kittens. I didn't think that was the case, but I still wanted to hear it from you. Yeah, when I wrote asking if Chance was the father, I kind of had this feeling that you would say exactly what you said.

Coyote: <<I think I'd rather have her fixed than hear the kitty version of "I'm In The Mood For Love" day and night when she's in heat.>> <LOL>

Christine: Thyroid cancer -- I'm so glad that you are all right. I have Hypothyroidism (genetic -- my mother had it and my sister has it. I've had it for a few years now.) and have been recently having some trouble with it. Doctor freaked me out the other day. Right after she checked me out, she asked if I was having hair loss and an irregular fast heartbeat (trust me MUCH different than a fast heartbeat and a heart murmur -- I know from experience). The thing is... I AM having those and other symptoms too. Getting a blood test soon. Hopefully everything will come out okay. **crosses fingers** <:) (Just thinking about it makes that area hurt.)

Lady Mystic - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Sunday, September 27, 1998 08:49:15 PM
IP: dhcp204.visitus.net

Hi, all, I'm back, the book hasn't come yet; I just posted prolifically (or would that be prodigiously?) in the other room all that's been going on. No book yet. It's lost. Or it has been a hoax all along. Time will tell, I suppose.

Scar-wise (how _did_ we get on this gruesome topic anyway?), I guess my most interesting one is the one on my neck -- a long thin one like a choker with a tracheotomy scar at the hollow of my neck like a pendant on the choker. Surgery. Thyroid cancer. March 1990. Pneumonia, collapsed lung, 8 days in ICU. Lovely!

Off to dinner now; Tim's birthday is tomorrow and so we have a date tonight! Later, all!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 08:04:53 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**The Big Bang reoccurs, and after *very* accelerated evolution, the universe returns to its current state. Coyote enters the room just about at this time, escorted by Coyote the Pyromaniac, who is lighting candles on the sheet cake Coyote is carrying.**

Okay, that's good. You can stop now.

**Coyote the Pyromaniac starts giggling wildly. Grinning the whole while, he drops a match on his hair and sets himself on fire, doing somersaults throughout the CR and creating burnmarks.**

Oh, great. Anyway, dig in, folks. Like the other one, it's half-chocolate and half-yellow, for those folks either allergic to chocolate or on a diet.

Fire Storm: Hmm ... sounds like either organ transplant surgery or vivisection ... you description isn't quite clear.

Bodily scars: I didn't list all of mine. Here's the complete list.

Small line on left middle finger (unknown)
1 foot line up left arm, tracing bicep (collapsing table)
Dark mark crossing left arm (lawnmower cord burn)
Small blue dot between eyes, on brige of the nose (got frustrated and poked myself with a pencil ... owwww ...)
Circular scar behind left ear (eardrum repair surgery)
Left toenail (4 ingrown toenail operations. Not fun.)
Small line across bridge of nose (from cpap unit I wear as treatment for sleep apnea)
Line inside lower lip tracing teeth (11 years playing the saxophone)

That about covers it.

Starsinger: Interesting to hear about your cats. I have two myself, both female, one with factory equipment and one without (the one with, the vet said she was too old to be fixed. I dunno, I think I'd rather have her fixed than hear the kitty version of "I'm In The Mood For Love" day and night when she's in heat).

**By this time, Coyote the Pyromaniac has been reduced to smoldering ashes. Coyote sweeps up the remains and dumps them in the CR wastebasket.**

8 down, 17 to go. Excuse me, please, and enjoy the cake.

**Coyote ducks out before the CR Lawyer can serve him with yet another suit, over the burnmarks his clone left all over.**

Coyote the Bando and Coyote the Pyromaniac - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, September 27, 1998 07:35:45 PM
IP: 207.91.254.33

Theresa: We love hearing about your little kittys!

The Blaiseism to end all Blaiseisms!
<The universe blew up and everyone died>

Fire Storm
Sunday, September 27, 1998 07:09:26 PM
IP: dhcp204.visitus.net

Alas, poor Jackal.
I didn't know him too well.
A man of infinate infinity.

Lady Mystic's scar: It wasn't a axe.
Cold and wet, she found herself unable to breathe. The men grabbed her and tied her to the table. Before she could do or say anything, tubes were inserted up her nose and she could feel a cold gas flowing into her nasal cavaties. She tried to struggle, but found her limbs would not respond. Two sharp objects were shoved into her ribcage, and she could feel cold fluids coursing into her veins, making her colder than she already was. She was about to cry when someone shoved a knife into her chest. The pain was unbearable! She felt the knife moving towars her back. When they finished cutting, they took thier massive hands and opened her ribcage, and grabbed the very organs that allowed her to breathe. After only a moment of this, she passed out. From the pain or drugs, she does not know.
When she came to, she found she was unable to open her eyes. She could feel what seemed to be tape where those monsters cut her open. They wern't knowledgeable enough to even use stitches. She tried to cry out, but her lungs wouldn't allow her to. No tears came from her eyes. So she just lie there, in that bed, not knowing what would happen next, not knowing when, or if, this would end.

Now what do you think caused all this?

Our children: They can't have my computer, thats for sure.
(Pain in censored area): Can I even HAVE kids?

Wilek: Surprisingly enough, I still have all of my origional factory parts. Sure, I have thought of aftermarket upgrades, but I will wait a few years first.

Goliath and Elisa breaking up: GOOD! Let her date her own kind! <J/k>
Seriously though... Elisa and Goliath breaking up was in Gregs Master Plan. Them breaking up in TGS is possible, only because Elisa may think it is going too fast, or she needs some space. i wish I could have video taped that late nite session with Greg at the Gathering when he explained all this. Ane besides... who here has NEVER gotten into a tiff with/temporarily broken up with /slept on the couch beacuse of your relationship with the person you are currently with? If G&E had no argurments and such, it would be a WIERD relationship. All relationships have some arguements. Yes, they may break up, but they will get back together again, and permantly.
No, I am not a TGS writer, I just play one on TV. That, and This is just about what Greg has said.
So it has been said,
so shall it be done,
so there. <Sticks out his tongue> Nyah! :P

Me being a TGS writer: YEAH, RIGHT! There is NO WAY they would ever ask me! TGS needs to be cheerful, and I just can't do that. Cheerfull in real life, yes, but writing is something totally different. If I have something cheerfull, i almost always will write something bad to equal things out.

Why does that button have to say "Submit"? I DO NOT follow others. I WILL NEVER SUBMIT! Why can't I just "Post"?

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@USA.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 07:07:36 PM
IP: dhcp204.visitus.net

Lady Mystic>> Actually Sunshine is the dad of choice. Chance is no longer a ball bearing mousetrap. Sunshine or Sunny is Pale orangey yellow on top and white on the bottom. The sunshining through the clouds. And no, Chance did not kill the two little ones. Since it happened a couple of days after birth, I just assumed possible unsee birth defects since Sunshine and Lovey are not related. It's sad to loss them, but it is part of the cirlcle of life. (I love that song.)
Scars I have plenty. You can't have cats or be six without any.
Who's spreading rumors of a break up with G&E?? Names sources unknown person. Lynch mobs have been formed for less.

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 06:38:47 PM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

**Ravyn comes running into the room, looking extremely shocked**

What?!? Tell me I heard wrong! Please! A Goliath and Elisa separation!?! No! IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!!! AAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!! Now I'm gonna panic!!! AAAHH!!!! Please, no!!!!

**Ravyn, extremely distraught, runs to the balcony and jumps out into the skies, realizing a moment too late that she doesn't have wings. Luckily, a certain handsome blonde gargoyle named Alex Wonder just happened to be gliding by, and catches the nervous wreck known as Ravyn in mid-air** :)

Ravyn Maza
Sunday, September 27, 1998 05:21:34 PM
IP: svm-ts1-14.c2i2.com

Hello. It's Shauntell and I haven't seen this place in a long time. First, my computer dies on us, then the software for AOL won't work, and then I get new software so that I can now enjoy America Online. But because of these problems I've missed out on the latest buzz about the Gargoyles and TGS stories? If anyone can remember anything what has been the biggest subjects of discussion? What's been going on and what can I expect. The one thing that I know to expect is the seperation between Goliath and Elisa. I have been dieing over that all summer! It is the one thing I seriously dread!!
You see, they really love each other, unlike my mom and dad, so I can't quite grasp why they would decide to seperate. My mom has been abused by my father and there has never been good feeling towards any of us, my sisters and mine from my dads part. But Goliath and Elisa are like best friends, the way couples should be, and it frustrates me when people, real or make believe, decide to throw that away. So I want to know: How long is the seperation supposed to last? And, for what reasons?
I know Elisa may get a bit... disturbed by all of the deaths in the war that happens between all of the fey, but will that be the only reason? I really need to know because that really buggs me.
Thanks guys. But who's part of the action of TGS anyway? Who here in the comment room does some of the story writting and concept ideas? I don't think I remember.
Well, anyway... see you later.
Shauntell Holm - [SGARGOYLE9]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 03:31:31 PM
IP: spider-wa041.proxy.aol.com

I have walked away from so many potentially serious injuries (like running into a parked car with my bike when I was six, and clearing it completely. If it was an Olympic event...), only to be defeated by stupid things (I can't really say how many scuffes and bruises and broken fingers and toes I've gotten around my house since I learned to walk).

I feel as if I am watching an autobiography when watching FEARLESS, except my life is funnier (or maybe just tragic in a more ironic sense).

T. Robert Townsend
Sunday, September 27, 1998 03:09:21 PM
IP: 147.226.113.228

Sevarius Jr.> Ouch!! They should've at least given you his autograph after that! ;)

Well, I'm not as beat-up as the rest of ya'll. I have a scar on my thumb from a previously-mentioned carving tool accident, one on my right knee from the 4th grade, a small dent in my forehead from when I fell off the jungle gym in kindergarten head-first, a scar on my wrist from a little tussle with a player on a rival basketball team that had _really_ long nails, and tons of previously jammed and/or broken fingers from basketball. The worst injury is my left knee, which I've blown out so many times that I can't play basketball anymore without it killing me. I can't wait 'til basketball season, 'cuz I'll get to be the team manager. I miss playing b-ball sometimes, but being the manager is fun enough for me now, and it's the next best thing to playing!

Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Sunday, September 27, 1998 01:59:53 PM
IP: svm-ts5-0.c2i2.com

Am I outta the loop here? Somebody got axed in the back? What?

Oh, and by the way, I beat all of ya. Metal plate in my head. Metallica concert, actually made it on stage before the rent-a-thugs threw me off. All I wanted was James Hetfield's autograph. Needless to say, the goon squad launched me, and the sea of humanity parted as if I was friggin' Moses. If I stand toward the north, sometimes I can get an easy listenin' station...

Firestorm: I'm glad he's the way he is. I've missed a slightly disturbed individual posting here ever since Jackal departed us. Alas, Jackal, we hardly knew ye....

Sevarius Jr.
Sunday, September 27, 1998 12:51:28 PM
IP: 207-172-121-5.s5.tnt15.brd.erols.com

[Wilek comes in, in his human form. Unlike the real Wilek, his clones go into stone sleep at dawn, due to the fact that his transforming into a human in the daytime is magical rather than genetic. So it is that one of Wilek's psychotic clones is frozen in statue form. Wilek decides it would be too easy to kill him now.]

FS> Is there anything *left* of you?! :D

LM> You're probably right about Coyote. Oh, and psychoanalyzing FS is about as good a way as any of driving yourself almost as insane as he is. :D (j/k)

BTW, Miriam used to wear her sunglasses so they completely covered her eyes, but ever since seeing Coyote's pic, she's decided to wear them the way the picture version of her does. It's the first time I've ever actually seen her eyes, and they are in fact blue. Ever wonder?

[Wilek leaves.]

Wilek Nereus
Sunday, September 27, 1998 07:53:00 AM
IP: tnt-2-109-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

8 days until the Rising. And sorry, but you'll just have to wait. It's just a little more than a week.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, September 27, 1998 07:11:47 AM
IP: pn9-ppp-187.primary.net

Sorry...
Slight correction:
I like to think that he has a death wish. Or at least that subconsciously somewhere deep down one of his motivations for doing this type of stuff is to mock the realization that there are things that people shouldn't do (or should do depending on the case). Trust me when I say that it fits very well with his personality. Only one thing REALLY scares me: What will our children inherit from him?

Lady Mystic
Sunday, September 27, 1998 06:43:03 AM
IP: dhcp225.visitus.net

Wilek: Not to discourage Coyote's abilities, but he could have subconsciously remembered what your earlier descriptions said of what you and Mariam looked like. I can recall a few times of which you described your identities.

Injuries/Scars/Operations>
<<Fire Storm>> Let me explain this one for Lady Mystic: Imagine what it would look like if someone took a axe to your ribcage below your arm, and it went all the way through your ribcage, front AND back, and about 3-4 inches deep. THATS how I would describe her injury. Oh yes... and allow to heal for a few years so the skin is kinda smooth, but the scar is DEFINATELY still there.
PLUS, there are 3 more scars, about 3 inches below that one, that look like someone took a stiletto knife and stabbed her three times.

<<Back to Lady Mystic>> Interested to know what they came from?

A smooth scar 5 inches long, that used to be twice that length on my right leg below my knee, from Fire Storm's dog's claws. That happened 3 years ago.

White hairline scar on the bridge of my nose from a childhood accident. (Tripped and ran into the metal frame of one of those gliding benches.)

Some small scars here and there from Chicken Pox.

I had a scar, which is almost invisible, on my left index finger. It was about a forth of an inch long, from an Exacto-type knife. I probably should have had stitches. It was REALLY deep. (Isn't it odd when you can see layers upon layers of skin from an open cut wound, with no blood what-so-ever? That is, I mean the kind of cuts so deep and clean cut that since there is no blood you can see straight through to the unharmed tissue inside the body.)

I've had other injuries, but other than that I have no other definable scars. I heal VERY well.

Coyote: <<Maybe I have a thing against my own left side!>> Actually, in a way you actually could, just not in the way that you are thinking. I can't quite remember what it is, but it has something to do with the mind, physically and mentally. I'll get back to you on this one when I recall the detail of this topic. It could also tie in with something spiritual (reincarnation and/or the soul). **High fives fellow psychic** Welcome to the world of knowing the unknown. Trust me when I say that it gets old REAL quickly, even if it's fun at first.

Psychology & Psychic Ability: Some believe that there is no such thing as ESP, that it is only in the mind of the person/people in question. But there is no physical evidence to prove either way. I like to think of my abilities as a combination of my psychological abilities and ESP. I've noticed that they both work hand in hand at times.

And yes, I know the psychological explanations behind psychic abilities. Some of them are quite interesting. I also know the theories behind psychic activity. (Lets just say I love research.)

Theresa: Hello fellow needle-crafter! :) So Chance is the father, and Chance and Lovey have had offspring together before? Please don't tell me that the reason why the 2 kittens died (not the 2 missing kittens but the 2 that died earlier) was because Chance ate them? (Probably not, I'm sure. But I just HAD to make sure.) I'm glad that he didn't get to the surviving kittens, yet anyway. E-mailing you -- I'd like that. :) Just as soon as I can get some things finished up around here. I can't believe how many things have popped up since my sister started school.

Fire Storm and injuries: And some people can't figure out why my sister and him get hurt so much when they play together... <G>

I like to think that he has a death wish. Or at least that subconsciously somewhere deep down one of his motivations for doing this type of stuff is to mock that realization. Trust me when I say that it fits very well with his personality. Only one thing REALLY scares me: What will our children inherit from him?

Lady Mystic - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Sunday, September 27, 1998 06:39:01 AM
IP: dhcp225.visitus.net

Ahh... I forgot my most memorable injury.
I was cooking italian food when I got garlic in my eye and ended up causing $1000 in front end damage to my car.

Fire Storm
Sunday, September 27, 1998 05:03:32 AM
IP: dhcp225.visitus.net

THIS link works.

Oh yeah... I don't drink.
That would be foolish. I could get hurt!
I could slip in a puddle of my own or someone elses vomit and break my neck!

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 04:36:35 AM
IP: dhcp225.visitus.net

Injuries: Ah... Something I am VERY familair with!
Electrical, Accidental:
Only one. I have this nasty habit of feeling for the electrical plug and guiding it in the socket with my fingers when I can't see the plug. Shocked once. That I can remember anyway.
Electrical, self inflicted:
Oh, where do I begin...
Autoshop, Electronics: Grabbed the ignition wires (20k volts.) (Repeatedly, because it felt kinda good.)
Physics: Van de Graff generator (Reason: See above)
Mini-Tazers, quartz ignition devices, nine volt batteries: (Reason: See above)
AC Adaptors: Testing them to make sure they work. (Ouch. WAY too many times. Word of caution: If it is 15volts, 1.5 amps, keep it away from your tongue, or you will not be able to feel it for about an hour and a half.)

Cuts, Stitches:
Nails, Bricks, (CENSORED RESPONCE HERE. (Guys, trust me, you don't want to know. Just the THOUGHT hurts like hell!)
Cuts, SHOULD have gotten stitches:
Glass cutting accident (Dime size flap on thumb), glass (Hand through window a few times), Knives (Cooking)
Minor cuts:
If you ever saw me play with scissors you would understand. Bad cardboard cuts (lots of blood), "Saftey" knives (Not so safe), screwdrivers, screws, staples, nails (THAT hurt), metal foot long rulers that have my works alarm keys on (You know... put the key in my pocket, forget about it, reach in to get a pen and... WHAMO! A new half-inch gash in your palm.)
Those damned tie-downs that bundle stacks of news paper.
And those are just the ones that happen on a regular basis!

operations:
Toes. Ingrown removal. many times. Hurt like a bi@#%. Looked sick. Got photos. Wanna see?

Joint problems:
Never broke a bone (Suprisingly enough.)
Fell off ladders (usually with heavy and expensive stuff in my arms)
Jumped to get something, landed on my ankle wrong (Heard me swear across the store) (needless to say, my ankles are not in good shape... ok... they are the first things to go when I upgrade.)

Bike Accidents:
Skidded for about 20 feet on gravel wearing only shorts and a tee-shirt (Happened about five times)
Ran into my fellow biker (Only about 2 times.)
Hit by cars (once on bike, twice while walking.)
Accidents while jumping ramps (too many)

Got beat up a helluva lot.

Scars on my back from Freddie Kruger(My little sister when we were younger.)

My doggie:
She has long claws and insists on jumping up to see you and jumping on your lap when you are sitting. Medium sized dog, 40-50 lbs. (Guys, you can let go of your crotch now.)
And trying to trim her nails... Teeth damage.

Psychological damage: Who knows, but SOMETHING happened. I USED to be normal, whatever that is.

The list goes on, and on, and on.
Needless to say, most of the accidents were self-induced, and USUALLY accidental.

Theresa: Maybe I DO have a deathwish after all! <G>

Idiot family members: Don't start me on this topic.

<Suddenly, 50 Qwik-Clones of Fire Storm can-can dance through the CR. The REAL Fire Storm joins them and dances out of the CR.>

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 04:15:55 AM
IP: dhcp225.visitus.net

[Wilek glides in.] It's gettin' weird in the other CR. I *hate* lobsters.

SJ> I for one don't hold you responsible for that. What Dad does is not your fault in any way.

Coyote> You might want to keep the Gearhead clone; he sounds useful, and not nearly as insane in the membrane as the others.

Wish I got WB. "Invasion America" sounds so totally kewl.

Well, I have more than a few things to attend to. Bye. [Just then, 25 themed clones of Wilek rush through.] What...no...that mosquito...it must have been...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! MIRIAM! EMERGENCY! CODE BLACK OMEGA ZERO SEVEN ZERO! STAT! [Miriam runs in, a red lightsaber in her right hand and a recoil-less Mark II Noisy Cricket sonic concussion weapon in her left. Wilek's Male Chauvinist Pig clone comes in and makes a pass at Miriam. Miriam reduces his head to chunky salsa with the Noisy Cricket.] 24 left. We have clone-killing to do. Bye all. [Miriam and the real Wilek go out to begin killing Wilek's psychotic clones.]

Wilek Nereus - [<--WORSHIP ME, FEMALES!!!]
Sunday, September 27, 1998 12:55:11 AM
IP: tnt-2-141-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

I would just like to say right now that I deny any and all involvement with the Coyote clones scandal. I have done nothing illegal, I have done nothing immoral, I have NOT cloned that individual. They're not my work...well okay, maybe the runway model, but the rest are not mine. Never touched him.

Invasion America: I know they run it on the WB network on Saturday mornings, where ever they broadcast that network in your area. It makes sense that WGN is showing it too, cause they usually broadcast the WB lineup. You know, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dawson's Creek....um, not like I watch those shows of course. ;)


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 11:45:21 PM
IP: 207-172-33-199.s199.tnt8.brd.erols.com

Ack, I forgot to make my last post blue.

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 26, 1998 09:55:25 PM
IP: tnt-2-77-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

[Wilek comes in from the other CR.]

Coyote> 6 down, 19 to go. Another one just bought it in the other CR.

[Wilek returns to the other CR.]
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 26, 1998 09:54:50 PM
IP: tnt-2-77-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Invasion America I just did a Webtv search. WGN
will be showing two episodes tomarrow morning. Check your local schedule for the time. They are a cable channel.

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 08:29:36 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Injuries: Well, my healing factor takes care of most of the ones I get, so I have few scars. Except for a couple spots on my neck where a vampire bit me (kidding!!). IRL, I have mole removal scars on my back just like Doug, one small scar on my chin from where a gang thug with a baseball bat hit me while I was beating him up, several marks on my left lower back, upper thigh, and rear (from an aforementioned skiing accident and the subsequent operation); and also another scar on my forehead reopened in the same accident, from the time when I rode my bike way too speedily and ended up hitting a big bunch of rocks. Ouch. Then one on my belly (appendix removal) and a long one on my left forearm where I got cut with a switchblade in the same fight where I got the baseball bat one. That's all my physical scars. Interestingly enough, I got them all before I was eighteen and have suffered none since then. Thank goodness. Maybe I'm now more experienced and less accident-prone.

The Rising: I too cannot wait. Come on, Todd, Dumlao, and everyone else, bring it to us. The suspense is killing this fan at least.

Speaking of suspense, has the book arrived yet, Christine? I really hope so.

Later all!

Lisa
Saturday, September 26, 1998 08:14:16 PM
IP: hd5-113.hil.compuserve.com

Coyote: Well, please keep dishing the clones out. They are hilarious! Especially the Macho, I really hate how you had to kill him. Oh well. Looking forward to the next installment of Clan: Manhattan.

And the Rising, too, though I already know what happens in the first episode. And no, no matter how people bribe me, I will not give any spoilers! (The ones I gave Lisa are the exception.)

As long as we're trading scar info here, let me go ahead and give mine. First, a bald spot on the back of my head (golf ball). Second, a really nasty one from where a dog knocked me down and I split my forehead open on the concrete. Third, on my right knee, a small one from the time I tried iceskating and slipped. I never tried it again. Then there's one on my left pointer finger from a knife fight I had with my sister at the dinner table when I was eight that our mother quickly put a stop to. I also have three scars on my right knuckles from where a cat scratched me up something good and a few on my back from minor mole removal surgery. Nothing more interesting than that, oh well.

Ho hum, I need to get back to my government paper now. See y'all.

Doug
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:58:38 PM
IP: hd5-113.hil.compuserve.com

[Wlek glides in, and suddenly a mosquito bites him. He tries to kill it but it gets away. He speaks.]

Coyote> You deduced that *before* I gave you the details? Wow, they're right; you *are* psychic. Too kewl. Oh, and the left-side thing? It's said that good spirits reside on the right side of the body, and evil ones on the left side. Or maybe it's an issue with your corpus callosum. I wonder.

LM and Theresa> Idiot family members? There are none in my family (I don't really have a family, though, unless you count Miriam, which I do), but the Del Fudgio brothers who live next door to me are the *worst*. Dr. Jharbdi Del Fudgio altered their Shih Tzu puppy, Spoony, so that he breathes fire. Ack. I would bring him in to help take care of Coyote's clones, but the immolation thing has already been done.

Injuries> Well, unless you count what happened to me in "Begins The Dance" and the truck escort Blaisism, nothing major. Probably because I heal every time the sun rises or sets.

Brian> Great job with the lawyer. Heh heh heh.

Well, I'm off. [Wilek glides out.]

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:53:50 PM
IP: tnt-1-189-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Brian the box cutter I use is also called a utility knife but the blades are special razor blades and fit into the handle and can be replaced when dull. Stanley puts out a wonderful one <g>. I find the snapblade ones too thin and they break to easily. I do some heavey duty cutting on grocery day. In fact I took a look at what I pack in my carrycase to work and find I'm more dangerous than I thought. My boxcutter and replacement blades, my knitting needles (sharp and usually in multiples) and my nostpinnde (approximately a foot long and cherry wood and used to wind yarn into balls. Makes a great short baton.)
Lady Mystic anytime you need an ear my mail address is there just drop me a line. I had a small scare about the kittens when I came home today, two were missing. Lovey decided to relocate them. I had locked her and the babies in the carry cage, but apparently didn't latch it tight. Chance has a real bad habit with babies. Fresh Meat. So it was a real scare. But they are fine and will be looking for a home around the last week of November.

The best thing about nine more days is payday comes first and with it new ink cartridges and paper for my printer. The small cartridge takes forever to print anything. Anyone have a spare bottle of halo polish? I'm about out with all the patience being a virtue and polishing my halo while I wait bit. <G>
Relurking.
Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:35:04 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

**Coyote enters the room, his art pad under his arm.**

Just trying to get these ready for scanning, don't mind me.

Ravyn: There's an ulterior motive to why all these clones are dying. I need to get rid of them! They've emptied my refrigerator and broken my toilet beyond repair!! AAAAAHHHH!!! **composes himself** And I thought it was such a good idea to get them ... I could get caught up on WCC and earn money at the same time! But no, each one has a weird personality quirk that I just can't stand!! (well then again, Coyote the Gearhead comes in handy when my car needs fixin' ...). And yes, I agree ... nerve endings are weird that way.

Lady Mystic: Yes, by all means we can include bodily scars and operations. I have two strange ones: a long scar up my left arm from a table collapsing underneath me (leaving an exposed screw) and a curved one around the back of me left ear (from an operation to repair the eardrum).

And I slashed my left thumb ...

Maybe I have a thing against my own left side! Now *that's* scary.

**Coyote shivers as he leaves.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:25:02 PM
IP: 207.91.254.62

Sorry, that last posting was mine, but I got a little muddled up on that one. My apologies if I confused anybody by leaving my name anonymous.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, September 26, 1998 06:54:21 PM
IP: pn3-ppp-103.primary.net

Um, actually I wasn't at the Gathering at all, let alone reading anything at it. But it's the same episode.

An exciting piece of "Gargoyles" news that I just came across. Next Saturday, in the St. Louis area, Channel 11 (a syndicated television station which, however, also used to carry the Disney Afternoon including "Gargoyles" - now it's a WBTV affiliate) is going to be showing the "video version" of "Awakening" in the afternoon, from 2 to 4 p.m. I know, it's the "video version" rather than the television version of "Awakening", but it's still "Gargoyles", being shown on non-cable. Maybe other syndicated stations will be showing that movie elsewhere in the U.S. as well. I certainly hope so, and I'm going to watch it if I can.
Anonymous
Saturday, September 26, 1998 06:52:41 PM
IP: pn3-ppp-103.primary.net

"Myth & Epic" class: Yeah, it was a great class. Although, the one I mentioned wasn't a college class. I took that class at my high school, when I was a student there. (As I've said over at s8, I'm currently finishing my high school diploma through correspondence. Did that little tidbit surprise you?) Anyway, if you're interested in a "Myth & Epic" class, I wish you luck in finding one at your school, whether it be high school, college, or the like. Don't forget though, that classes are always taught differently based on the teacher, curriculum, and the location of the school (county/province, city, state, and country). I hope you have fun, I know I did. :)

Mythic saga? I WISH! But my teacher had to grade some 30+ stories. Plus, he taught other classes and was in charge of the school newspaper. There was no possible way for him to have graded multiple episodes of our own creation. Oh yeah, we weren't allowed to have multiple writers per story. That is, we had to work on our own stories solo. We had a limit, no higher and no lower than a given amount of pages. And we had some major guidelines to follow. One of them was to include a certain number of mythical motifs, and make sure we used certain specified motifs. And we also had to use all the seasonal rituals. Modern technology and present day type stuff weren't allowed. It had to have the feel of ancient times. At the moment I can't remember what other guidelines we had to follow -- it was 2 1/2 years ago. And then there was the report... We had major nitpicking to do here. If we forgot or missed something that we were supposed to include in our essay, even if it was mentioned in the story, that thing was automatically viewed as never existing in our story. So we had to make sure that EVERYTHING important from our story was discussed in our report, otherwise it was thought that we never did write about it in our story. And that was just one of the guidelines for our report that we had to follow. Talk about a challenging assignment. I loved it!

Out of curiosity, does anyone else know what I'm talking about when I talk about mythical motifs and seasonal rituals? (I feel like I may be the only one here who knows about the science behind epic myths.)

Theresa>
<<Please feel free to rant against idiots. The worst kind are family.>> Thanks. At least I have you to count on. <:) **pauses** I don't even know where to begin. I'll get back to this at a later time. I'm really not in the mood right now to get into some long conversation about simple-minded people. :( (Or am I?) Although, comparing my father's brother's family to my mother's parents ... my mother's parents definitely take the cake. Thomas Forsyth (aka Green Baron) knows a little of what I'm talking about. Right GB?

<<Don't let me get started on my older brother.>> Oh, I can't handle it! Let's get you started! <G> What did he do, if you don't mind my asking?

<<Lovey had a total of six babies, but I lost two a couple of days later. Two boys and two girls. One grey and white, one white, black, and light orange, and two white, grey, and light orange. She's getting help from the others in everything but nursing.>> Oh those pour little souls! My condolences. The kittens sound so cute. Who's the father and are the kittens staying with you or are they getting homes of their own with other families? :)

I'm glad to hear that the mother's doing fine. It's nice to know that cats can actually get along. Fire Storm's aunt has two cats and they get along fine. But my dad's cousin at one time had at least 7 cats and 2 or 3 dogs. The dogs were HUGE Labs and not all the cats got along. At one time, my family had to cat-sit 3 of them. It was terrible to say the least. Anyway, only one cat from that menagerie of cats and dogs is alive today. Don't let me get started on THOSE incidents! You definitely don't want to hear about it, trust me.

Christine: Look! I have no feet now! And there is no floor in my living room! <G> I hope those books arrive at you house soon, if not today.

DumlaoX: Oh, well. I hope the new revisions turn out well.

<<Sometimes I think I'm trying to kill myself a piece at a time. ~Theresa>> **laughs** That's exactly what Fire Storm is doing. <G>

Brian: Hi! It's nice to see you again. (Don't come around as much as you used to do you?) That's okay. Don't worry, I still come across some abbreviations on the boards that I don't know what they stand for. Thankfully it doesn't happen that much anymore. Some of this Internet Language is a bit confusing. I'm still learning it myself.

Coyote: **laughs**

If we're talking about injuries and stitches, do scars and operations fall into this conversation too? If so, I've got one to tell, but I'll have to tell it at another time, RL calls. See ya later. :)

Lady Mystic - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Saturday, September 26, 1998 05:45:07 PM
IP: dhcp171.visitus.net

Coyote> Wow! You're just losing clones left and right, aren't you? ;) And isn't it funny how really do never feel the pain until you notice that you're dripping blood everywhere? One of the mysteries of life...

Just keep telling yourselves...it's only 9 more days...only 9 more days...

Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Saturday, September 26, 1998 05:00:43 PM
IP: svm-ts8-1.c2i2.com

Wow... dropped a digit on the big count... how exciting!
ED
Saturday, September 26, 1998 04:36:39 PM
IP: p51-kittiwake-gui.tch.virgin.net

**Coyote enters the room accompanied by another clone.**

Hi all. The clone's presence will be explained shortly.

Wilek: I figured as much about the clothing. When I drew her, I gave her a business-style suit about the description you just gave, with no tie and an open collar. I'm planning on scanning and coloring it tonight, you can give me a better opinion on how close I am to her.

And now, for the benefit of Brian and all those who are unfamiliar with boxknives, here's Coyote the Runway Model with the new model for 1999.

**Music starts. Coyote the Runway Model begins strutting down the middle of the room, showing off a small handle-type tool with a retractable blade.**

This is a boxknife. It has a retractable blade, usually going into a plastic housing. This particular model is the type I use at my workplace: it has a thumbguard for the cutting hand's thumb and two settings, one for cutting tape on the top of a box, and another specifically for tray-cutting the tops of cases of oil.

**Coyote the Runway Model extracts the blade, showing in pantomime how the knife is used for tray-cutting.**

But notice how the opposite thumb has no protection.

**Coyote the Runway Model pulls the knife back and slashes his thumb, similar to how Coyote created his own injury.**

Also notice how the user feels no pain, until that moment that he notices he's bleeding like a stuck pig.

**Coyote the Runway Model looks at his thumb, crosses his eyes and collapses. Unfortunately, he falls on the knife.**

Thank you for your time.

**Coyote bends over and drags his fifth dead clone out of the room by its shoulders. 5 down, 20 to go.**

Coyote the Bando and Coyote the Runway Model - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, September 26, 1998 04:29:19 PM
IP: 207.91.254.65

(Jebediah runs into the room with his machette in hand , he looks around the room , spots the lawyer and proceeds to beat him over the head with the machette stock . The lawyer drops to the floor unconcious . Jebediah then suspends him , via a wire tied to the lawyer's wrists , over the floor so that his feet are just touching the ground .Brian walks into the room a little shakily carrying a container of wet cement .) Nicely done Jebediah .(Brian puts the pan on the floor beneath the lawyer and puts his feet into it .)

Lady Mystic : Thanks for the explanation , this stuff always strikes me as fairly obvious after I am told , and I end up wondering how I could have been too stupid .

SJ : I must say that I agree with you to some mild degree (too mild to be considered agreeeing with you really )

But I always felt that she fought too well against Demona , Like in Titania's Mirror (Loved Puck in that episode by the way) , even if she was a Gargoyle at the time , she should'nt have been able to do so well . Demona gives Goliath a hard time for goodness sake .

Starsinger : What kind of knife is called a box-cutter ? Forgive my ignorance I am thinking of those utility knives with the blades which can snap off of the main length , but if that was it 5 stiches sound like a small amount . The most amount of stiches that I ever got was 3 on my left cheek bone in front of the ear , that happened when I fell off a ledge and hit the exposed mouth of a concrete pipe .

Hey does anyone here know if the wind currents in Manhattan are srong enough to actually support something with Goliath's weight ?

Todd : The Rising ? You did a reading for those who went to the gathering , is that the episode your going to be showwing at the end of the countdown plus the next one or what ?

Later all .
(Brian feels the cement around the lawyers feet and he finds that it is dry . ) OK wake him up Jebediah . (Turns to the room members) Do'nt worry the water off the peir is shallower than it appears , but he does'nt know that . And we'll pull him out before hight tide . ( Brian turns to help drag the now conscious yet gagged CR lawyer out of the room all the while he utters a muffled scream .)

Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 10:22:34 AM
IP: 208.11.41.202

[Human Wilek comes in driving an AT-ST scout walker.]

Only 9 days! YAHOO!!!

Coyote> When I e-mailed you about Miriam and myself being in WCC, I think I was so excited about the grand experiment (I still am, really) that I failed to give a clear and accurate description of her clothing. It just occurred to me that my description can make it sound like she wears a tie. She doesn't; her clothing is pretty much a black version of Miss Destine's (click my name), with a white blouse and black knee-length skirt. And her shirt doesn't have those weird little ruffles that Destine's does. I don't know if you were going to have her wear a tie or what, but I didn't want to leave it to chance. Thanks and good luck with the grand experiment! And I promise this is the absolute last time I'll pester you about it. WCC is just the kewlest thing I've ever been involved in and I didn't want to mess it up by giving an inaccurate description. Thanks for putting up with me!

Bye everyone! [Wilek stomps out in the scout walker.]

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:27:33 AM
IP: tnt-1-117-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

9 days until the Rising. Yes, we're now moving into the single-digit counting.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:10:18 AM
IP: pn9-ppp-209.primary.net


I love it. Elmyra in the labyrith. Just wait til she sees the clones.

One thing that makes Elisa believable is she was doing ok as a detective until the gargoyles showed up. Since most police forces have partners, I wonder what happened to Elisa's previous one(s) before Matt?? One of the more recent fanfics did a comment I thought very funny. Goliath being the ultimate protective boyfriend. "But Elisa, gargoyles protect." "Yeah but not from cab drivers that pass you by." "But it was raining and I was afraid you'd catch cold." Endless possiblilites there.
My boxcutter injury was a couple of years ago. Sometimes I think I'm trying to kill myself a piece at a time.
Later world.
Starsinger

Theresa - [StarsingerWebtv.net]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 07:06:23 AM
IP: proxy-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net

[Wilek glides in.] Think I'll use a pic tonight. Don't know why. Don't you think a reformed Fang would make a great hero?

My opinion of Elisa? Well...certainly she's important to the clan, especially to Goliath. And she is one of the more creative and realistic heroines that animation has had. And there's all the other good stuff about her that others here have mentioned. Still...she just doesn't interest me as much as most of the other characters. She's just about the only remotely normal person on the show. Even Vinnie seems to have had some kind of mild psychosis, judging by the fact that he stalked Goliath for hours just to hit him with a pie. If he could have gotten in a clear shot, he would have done it in the middle of several of Goliath's battles with Wolf and the spirit of Hakon, giving them an opening to tear his head off. Vinnie's interesting. The only thing really fascinating about Elisa is that she knows a bunch of gargs and one of them's her boyfriend. (Well, there are the other situations she's been in, but those are a direct outgrowth of her association with the clan.) In short, I don't particularly like her, but I don't particularly dislike her either. I can imagine what Elisa's mom Diane will say if she ever learns about Goliath: "Great. One of my kids is a mutant cat and the other's dating a big purple winged guy who wears a loincloth and throws cars. Can't wait to see the grandkids." :) I think I ranted a bit there. Oh well, I don't mind other people ranting, so I shouldn't mind myself ranting. :)

Creativity demon: Elmyra from Animaniacs wanders into the Labyrinth and encounters Derek, Maggie, Fang, and Claw. "Big talking kitties! I'll hug you and squeeze you and love you and tickle you..." She eventually catches them, ties them up, dresses them like baby dolls, and puts pacifiers in their mouths. They eventually escape when Wolf shows up for some unknown reason. "Puppy!"

Creativity demon II: Diane Maza gets senile in her old age and keeps getting Derek and Cagney mixed up. "Would you like some milk, Cagney?" "Mom, it's Derek." "Oh...then who did I walk with back to the Labyrinth? Oh no! Cagney!" Fang in the Labyrinth with Cagney: "Hello kitty cat. There ain't much to eat down here, ya know. You look nice and fat." Of course, Diane and Derek arrive in time to stop *that* little tragedy from occurring. As punishment, Derek makes sure Elmyra finds Fang again. >:) I guess that's why I used the Fang pic; I seem to be under the aegis of a slew of Labyrinth-related creativity demons tonight.

DumlaoX> You mean people didn't like the new series title font? Ack, that was my favorite part of the revision. No offense, but I don't much like the old font (which I guess is the current font again). Oh well.

Theresa and Coyote re boxcutter miseries> Ack. I'm glad I don't use those things. Get well soon. :)

[Wilek glides out.]

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 26, 1998 02:11:49 AM
IP: tnt-1-128-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

(Doug walks in, doing an annoying hat and cane tap dance routine. In the process of it, he goes up to the CR lawyer and whacks and annoys him until the lawyer runs off to write another suit.)
That's for that dumb sign you put on my back. And btw, you can give me all the suits you want. With Cage, Fish, Thomas, and McBeal on my side, I can't lose. :)

Theresa: That scene where Elisa kicked ass in "Awakenings" was what made me really like her instantly, too. And when she helped with the Upgraded Pack (not the Ultra-Pack), that was also a good scene for her. I've never gotten bored with her character, or any character on Gargoyles. They're all great. And she is not like Steven Seagal. For one thing, Elisa is a more real and believable character than anything he's played. She's also a heck of a lot more gorgeous! And the show isn't entirely driven by her, either, which is a big difference from Steven Seagal movies. So overall, Elisa is a good heroine, IMO.

Speech on Ultimate-Tough-Guy Heroes: I agree with SJ about Steven Seagal. He's tough, but there's no way he can be as tough as all the movies show. I've seen all his movies, but only really enjoyed two: On Deadly Ground and Under Siege. The first one I enjoyed because of the bad guys, not Seagal. Under Siege I enjoyed because of Erika Eleniak's character and the bad guys' (especially that awful guy Gary Busey did, he was funny), not Seagal. So even though Seagal drove both movies, it was not his presence that made them memorable for me. I do not like ultimate kick ass heroes, that's why. I find them as unbelievable as SJ does. The only difference between guys of that sort and Elisa is that Elisa is a believable character, and always kicks ass in creative ways. Whereas they aren't and usually don't. Also, Elisa has more of a personality than any of them do, and she has friends to back her up. It's not a "Stay behind me or die" situation, it's a fight together one. There's a big difference. Elisa is not an ultimate tough guy heroine at all, IMO.

Wait a sec, this is the guy who's famous for the ultimate fanfic tough guy hero, Seth, talking. Okay, before anyone yells at me for that, consider this: Seth's character is believable. He doesn't kick ass always without his hair getting messed up because he's had nine thousand years to train as a fighter. Plus, right now nothing can harm Seth in the least for long, so he's practically invincible until the spell comes off him (someday it will!). If Seagal came at him, Seth could take the guy down without blinking, and probably in one punch. Same deal for Elisa, only it probably wouldn't be her giving the punch (it'd be the big lavendar garg coming up behind Steven Seagal while she distracted him. <gr> ). Plus, even Seth fails to get his man sometimes, simply because he's very emotional and sometimes does really dumb things in the name of ego. Read the last part of my "Final Hunt" for examples. So he's different from Seagal type guys, he's believable, immortal but realistic, and there are good reasons for his toughness and invincibility. So don't anybody flame me for him (or if you must, please just send me an e-mail, don't do it in here).

Ravyn: You're welcome. :)

SJ: Careful, unless you're talking about the Demona from my latest fanfic, she'll probably kill and eat you if you even try to make a move on her. :(

That's all for now, see ya!
(Doug goes out, continuing his hat and cane routine.)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, September 26, 1998 12:42:32 AM
IP: hd63-143.hil.compuserve.com

Well, I guess this is one of those things where we have to "agree to disagree." I just don't like Elisa. Guess I'm kinda opionated that way. But as the great (hmm...not really) Larry Flynt used to say, "Opinions are like @$$holes, everyone's got one."

Theresa: Naw, I'm not jealous of Goliath, cause I DON'T like Elisa. Like I said, she annoys me. Now Demona, there's the girl/garg for me! :-)

Sevarius Jr.
Saturday, September 26, 1998 12:19:35 AM
IP: 207-172-35-157.s157.tnt9.brd.erols.com

Jr. since when did Elisa to all those things without help?? They used team effort to defeat Oberon. Angela gave the winning effort against Anansi. Elisa had alien induced amnesia when they confronted Nokkar. Almost everything was a team effort. When they fought the Ultra pack she went down and the only member she personally put away was Dingo with the help of a magnetic crane. I think your just jelous that Goliath got the girl and you didnt'.

Todd >> I had figured may be that Goliath was being set up when they took him down, mainly because they only tranked him once and didn't do anything to Elisa. The one thing that really sold me on Gargoyles was that Elisa didn't wait for anyone to rescue her. She did a wonderful job a taking down the Goon Squad and protecting Goliath until nightfall.

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, September 25, 1998 08:30:45 PM
IP: proxy-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Wow, I continue to be impressed by the comments in this room, it makes for great reading :) I never thought of Elisa as one of those Steven Segal-type characters, for one thing her hair got mussed plenty of times (though maybe a tear in the jacket every once and awhile would have been nice). I enjoyed watching the play between her and Goliath the entire Avalon tour, and while I would have liked to see more of the Trio and Hudson (and with good animation!! arrrch!) the Avalon arc was meant to focus on Goliath and Elisa and their relationship. The events in "Hunter's Moon" (with that kick-ass scene we all know and love) would never have been believable, in my opinion, had there never been an Avalon tour. Sometimes people have to go through a lot together to realize they love each other...especially when you have to conquer the species barrier too.
Jessica Entis - [entisja@muohio.edu]
Cincinnati, OH, USA
Friday, September 25, 1998 07:42:15 PM
IP: user.munet.muohio.edu

Okay, about the Elisa thing: Hey, didn't I say I'd draw some heat? I enjoy playing the heel now and then. But seriously, Elisa does annoy me. I liked her in the beginning, but when she, a HUMAN, even though she's a trained New York cop, started to kick the ass of gargoyles, aliens, fey, the giant spider, just about everyone...I got a little sick of it. I always hate it in a movie or story when the hero or villain goes way beyond there limitations-I'm not talking a little bit, like in your typical action flick, I'm talking about how all of a sudden your average Joe Blow off the street becomes Superman, stopping terrorists/government conspirators/nasty crooks when they should be flipping Happy Meals at the All-American Burger. (That's just one of the reasons I hate Steven Seagal. Ever see a Steven Seagal movie? He always plays a godlike C.I.A. guy, he wears those Fu Manchu jackets, and he kills like fifty guys in 10 seconds, and not a goddamn hair on his head has been knocked outta place. No one said Hollyweird had to be believable, but they should be at least slightly realistic.) Anyway, I personally got too much Elisa on the Avalon tour. I wish they had focused more on some of my favorite characters, like Brooklyn or Lex.

And by the way, has anyone else seen "There's Something About Mary?" Most of you probably have, and I'm just clueing in on the movie right now, but did you guys know that Keith David is in it? He has, without a doubt, one of the funniest lines in the whole flick...

"How the hell did you get your beans above your franks?"

Damn that movie's funny.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, September 25, 1998 06:54:16 PM
IP: 207-172-41-248.s248.tnt10.brd.erols.com

THERESA - Well, I don't think that Goliath was ever in any real danger of being captured, since the Xanatos Goon Squad's objective was not to capture or kill him, but to dupe him into thinking that Cyberbiotics was out to get him, so that he would ally with Xanatos in the raid on its research labs. But it's likely that things would have been pretty nasty for Elisa if she'd been captured. After all, Xanatos wouldn't have considered it to his advantage to let Goliath have any independent contacts with the human world, which would risk undermining his monopoly on controlling Goliath's perception of 20th century humanity. Putting Elisa out of the picture would therefore appear an absolute necessity (and he might have even considered it possible that getting Elisa disposed of by what appeared to be Cyberbiotics mercenaries right in front of Goliath could help motivate the gargoyle all the more to help him wage war upon Cyberbiotics).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, September 25, 1998 06:53:35 PM
IP: pn9-ppp-205.primary.net

Actually Rayvn, it didn't hurt at all. Just messy. Redoing the floor tiles in a deeper shade of red. My most pressing concern was Alex. She's mentally handicapped and comes in a couple of days a week for light cleaning and general help. I was actually more worried that she'd panic, but she didn't. As long as Frankie and I were calm, she just stayed out of the way while I put a pressure bandage on it and helped clean up the mess. After lunch rush I went to the doctor's and got five stiches. Had to real problem.
Between waiting for the return of TGS and Christine's book, I feel like I'm poised on the brink of jumping off the nearest cliff or building and I don't have a gargoyles wings or a gargoyle boyfriend to catch me. Luckily I can fly without them. <g>
Has anyone wondered what would have happened to Goliath and Elisa if the Xanatoes Goon squad had taken them prisoner in Part 4 of the Awakening instead of them escaping and us getting to see Elisa kick ass?
Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, September 25, 1998 06:31:48 PM
IP: proxy-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Doug> Glad to hear you and Lisa are both doing great! Good luck with those papers and tests. I've only got one more paper to write and who knows how many more tests and then I'm done. So I'm doing fine. Thanks! :)

Aargh!!!! I don't think I can wait much longer for the new TGS season!! I just have to keep telling myself, it's a little over a week, a little over a week... ;)

Theresa> Ouch! That seemed like it would hurt! Hope it healed up all nice and quick for you. I think boxcutters, carving tools, and razor blades all must have some sort of homing device so they can always find our thumbs! :)

Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Friday, September 25, 1998 06:17:14 PM
IP: svm-ts6-25.c2i2.com

To all those that wished me a happy birthday, thanx ever so much. I truly appreciate it.

To all those that wished Alison and I a long and lasting relationship, thanx. We try to every day.

WEBSITE 2.0-- Talked witht he staff earlier ago and a great majority didn't like the new revision. The only part they liked was the little sidebar with all the links on it. So, with a little hesitation, I brought back the old index page for the site. Now all I have to do is do little improvements only and the new, slightly modified site, will be online before October's premiere. Once it becomes final, I'll post here what the major improvements were and why they were done so.

Till next time...

DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Friday, September 25, 1998 03:01:36 PM
IP: proxy-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net

*rejoices because TGS returns in only 10 days*
Bar Tender - [new_bar_tender@geocities.com]
Garland, TX, USA
Friday, September 25, 1998 11:40:28 AM
IP: ppp29-7.ght.iadfw.net

Just 10 days until the Rising.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, September 25, 1998 07:16:20 AM
IP: pn3-ppp-135.primary.net

Coyote >> Can we say skill, coordination and timing? All bad. Yes I've that incredibly skillful thing with a box cutter. Five stiches on the left hand just before the thumb/hand joint. It didn't hurt and it was several hours before I went to get it stiched. They couldn't give me a tetinus shot because last time I got a screw in my foot, I had a bad reaction to the shot.

Starsinger

Theresa - [StarsingerD@Webtv.net]
Friday, September 25, 1998 06:59:56 AM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

(The chase comes back onto the monitor. Lisa has pulled Wilek aboard the truck, but in the process got shot three times. Orion the cleric is looking to her wounds. Doug shouts, "I can't shake them!! Where's our backup driver?" Lathrop the wizard shouts back, "Hang on!" and begins a teleport spell.)

Ravyn: I'm doing fine here. So is Lisa. Two tests and one paper to go for each of us before the first round of the semester ends. In general, we're all okay. How are you?

Tragedy and Conflict in Fanfic: I too know how it can move a plot. (Shameless Plugs ahead, please excuse them.) Right now, I admit, I have a lot of conflict going on in my saga, but little tragedy. Something big is coming, though. You'll see. Pretty soon, the hits will just keep on coming as bad guy after bad guy appears and either grows stronger or challenges the good guys and goes down. At the end of it all, the clan and its allies will have to face two forces of bad guys that may or may not be working together. One force is led by a certain super-genius bad gargoyle who by then will have enough power to call himself a god. The other is led by someone who already is one. My readers will see who I'm talking about when the time comes. Thankfully, by then the good guys may have some degree of godlike power on their side as well. Maybe, it'll be enough. <grin> (End Shameless Plugs)

The Elisa Issue: I like her. She's cool, one of the coolest heroines Disney has ever created. Only Fox comes close. That's my opinion. (And no, it's not faked. Do you see any big lavendar gargoyles standing over me with glares on their faces?)

That's all for now. See y'all next time.
("Where's that backup driver?" Doug calls, and Lathrop completes the spell. Eight hundred pounds of doggoyle suddenly appear in the truck's front seat, and shove Doug out of the way into the passenger seat. Doug yells "Oh NOO!!!!" as Buick takes the wheel and the truck speeds on, soon outrunning the other Black Ravens, who decide to stop the pursuit before it can catch up. And the chase goes on, as the screen goes blank.)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, September 25, 1998 12:09:37 AM
IP: hd60-034.hil.compuserve.com

Thanks! (like I said in the other room!) ;)
Ravyn Maza
Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:58:13 PM
IP: svm-ts5-21.c2i2.com

**The merry chase somehow finds its way into Michigan, and Lexington (Coyote's new car) joins in the escort team, being driven by another of Coyote's categorized clones, Coyote the Macho. Coyote is riding along in the passenger seat, clinging for dear life.**

Take it easy! God, you're a worse driver than Buick!!

**Buick whines in the back seat.**

No offense. Thought I'd do my part in getting this precious cargo to Christine. I'm with you as far as Sturgis, then I have to break off.

Wilek: Yes, tragedy is a great story mover. I'm steeped in tragedy: if you follow my name link, it goes to one of my earlier stories ... it may be a bit intense for you, my friend (it's not graphically portrayed, but it deals with a rape), but it's pretty much the way I developed my style.

And the next one uses another great story mover, conflict. It's a confrontation, of sorts, between Nokkar and Liberty, two trained enemies who are now on the same side. Should be fun to watch the fur fly on *that* one!

Oh, and Peter Maza was indeed Elisa's father. Samson's line of "three down, two to go" refers to the surviving Mazas, to Demona's knowledge (Beth and Rosanna). In my fics, Demona either doesn't know or doesn't remember that Talon is Elisa's brother. (and for that matter, he hasn't shown up yet. He really should, Slash is starting to miss his daddy.)

Ravyn: Like I said in the other room.

**Coyote the Macho guns the engine and grunts.**

Watch it! WATCH OUT!!!

**Lexington busts an axle as Coyote the Macho takes a turn too steeply. Coyote the Macho starts grunting in his defense.**

Well whaddya expect from a $415 junkyard car?! It's not a friggin' NASCAR!!!

**Coyote pulls out his handy-dandy boxknife and slices Coyote the Macho into small pieces. 4 down, 21 to go.**

Coyote the Bando and Coyote the Macho - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:47:06 PM
IP: 207.91.254.55

[The monitor lights up with an image of Doug and Lisa's brown truck and the Black Ravens fighting the psycho gang. Wilek glides in behind the gang, roaring, "I will not rejoin your kind!" It doesn't even faze them--this particular gang is anti-gargoyle as well. Wilek fires a magna grappler, a rope with a powerful magnet at the end, at the truck and uses it to parasail along behind the truck while helping fight the gang.] I'd better glide escort on this one. Hang on Christine, we've got the pedal to the metal!

In the grand tradition of the TGS themes (music from "The Power Of One" and "The Lion King" was used for Timedancer, and music from "Dragonheart" was used for Pendragon), I'm planning to select a MID file to act as the theme for my Station Eight fanfic series. I've got one in mind, but I'm open to suggestions.

Is it me, or, in Coyote's Clan Manhattan fics, has the clan's life been one tragedy after another lately? Elisa dies, Brook and Sata move to Japan, Lex moves to Detroit, Broadway is blinded, Angela runs off with Demona, Elisa's mom dies, I think Elisa's dad dies, Bluestone dies (the original from the show I mean), Goliath is just about suicidal over Elisa, Samson falls under Demona's geas, Rosanna seems to be on bad terms with her dad Goliath, aliens invade, the list goes on and on and on. Although...in some stories, the Quarrymen seem to be helping the gargoyles repel the Rokkans. Anything that can pound ideas like *that* into a thick Quarry skull without using one of their own hammers can't be *all* bad. And some of the other unfortunate situations seem to be reversing themselves. Not that I have any problem with all the tragedy; heavens no. It makes for great stories. The worse the good guys go through, the more uplifting the happy ending ends up being. Keep up the wonderful work Coyote!

Well, I'd better get back to guarding this shipment. [Sudden;y, a psycho gang member shoots Wilek in the elbow joint of his left wing. He can't continue gliding escort. He falls to the road, getting up after a few moments, shaken but unharmed except for the bullet wound.] Don't worry all; I'll live till sunrise when this will heal. [The screen shuts off.]

Wilek Nereus
Thursday, September 24, 1998 10:11:38 PM
IP: tnt-2-70-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Lady Mystic >> Please feel free to rant against idiots. The worst kind are family. Don't let me get started on my older brother. <g>
Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 08:44:55 PM
IP: proxy-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Lady Mystic >> Lovey had a total of six babies, but I lost two a couple of days later. Two boys and two girls. One grey and white, one white, black, and light orange, and two white, grey, and light orange. She's getting help from the others in everything but nursing.
Christine >> We're wearing a hole in the carpet aren't we?? <g>
The new season of Highlander is starting. It's on Fox tonight.

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 08:42:27 PM
IP: proxy-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Sevarius Jr.> Oh, man! How can you hate Elisa?!? She was my favorite character from the show. I mean, without her, the gargoyles would probably either be dead or working for Xanatos as bad guys...oh, well. You're entitled to your opinion. ;)

So how's everyone doing?

Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Thursday, September 24, 1998 07:31:15 PM
IP: svm-ts9-11.c2i2.com

I AM REALLY TIRED OF COMPUTER PROBLEMS!

My own, not anyone elses. I submitted my fanfic "A Storm of Things Forseen" (the one that was eaten last week) to the Gargoyles-fans archive. And I'm there, all nice and pretty in the table. Only when you click on my story link nothing happens. I'm waiting to hear back from Chris about this. So maybe someday in the near future people will be able to read my story and tell me what they think.

Greek History>I loved the Iliad. Homer's imagery is the best. I must confess I have yet to read the Odysessy, but I have read a lot of Greek plays that some people don't get around to doing. Lysistrada, the Orestsia, and a couple of others that I can't remember how to spell right now. Lady Mystic that class sounds way cool. I wish we had one like it here at my college.


Cassandra - [nscoa3099@alpha.nsula.edu]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 07:27:50 PM
IP: 204.196.32.65

(A big brown truck appears on the monitor. Driving it are Doug and Lisa. They are being pursued by a raving horde of rabid anti-fantasy and anti-erotica activists in cars, pickups, and motorcycles. The other active Black Ravens are driving Jim's Buick, Stephanie's new Ford Taurus, and Lisa's motorbike, trying to get rid of the pursuit with their various weapons. The camera moves in to the driver's seat of the truck as Doug blows the horn.)

Um, Christine, I know why your book isn't there yet. Our company, Silver Dragon Inc. (a freelance bunch of people who do anything and everything) was hired to bring it to you, and we've run into some trouble. Don't worry, we will get it to you. Just hold on!

Lady Mystic: That sounds like a very interesting class. Wonder if there's anything like it here at UT. So you had to create your own myth saga, eh? Kinda like what Greg did for Gargoyles, Todd and the others are doing for TGS, and Christine is doing for Magelore. I've been creating my own myths, too, ie my fanfic universe. It's quite an endeavor and very satisfying when you see the stories play out. From your last post, it sounds like things are the same way for you.

Todd: 11 days to go? Come on!!! This fan cannot wait! Bring it to us!

("Oh, you'll get yours soon, mortal!!" a crow caws, flying past Doug's shoulder. He draws his gun and fires at it, but misses. Doug curses under his breath and drives on, determined to get the books to Christine before the bad guys catch up to them. Just before the screen goes blank, everyone notices the pursuit is finally starting to fall off.)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 05:08:35 PM
IP: fac-b-c8.lib.utexas.edu

Sorry, here's the correct e-mail address.
Lady Mystic - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 02:08:20 PM
IP: dhcp180.visitus.net

Welcome back to everyone that's been gone for awhile!
Hello to all newbies!
And a hello to everyone! <G>

DumlaoX>
Belated Happy Birthday! You're just a little over a month older than I am! Nice birthday wishes Webpage Alison [Hi Al =)]! :)

<<DUMLOAX-- The pic name. That's actually mine, only horribly misspelled.>> You should see how people tend to spell and say my real life last name! I've seen/heard some things that I wish I never knew existed. I hope that makes you feel a little better. :)

My sympathies about your father. I know exactly how it is to have a parent ill with cancer going through chemotherapy and the like. I hope he gets better (and doesn't suffer) and lives for many more years. Good luck to your father, you, and your loved ones. :)

It's nice to see other couples that used to be friends for a long period of time before they became a couple. Fire Storm and I don't feel so out of place now. I hope you and Alison keep having a great relationship. I hope your long distance relationship keeps working out for the best, and that maybe it won't always be that way (if you know what I mean). That is when you two are ready. You two seem really happy together. :) I hope you two stay together for a long time. :)

SITE: I see you updated the Raptor Woman link. Thanks! From what little I've seen, I can tell that you used some of my suggestions. Thanks! I understand that it's a work in progress so all I'll say for now is that what I've seen so far looks great.


Brian: SO means "significant other." Going along the combined definitions of both words (significant and other), significant other means the 'other person' 'most important' in your life. In other words, significant other means your boyfriend or girlfriend, husband or wife, or anything else similar to a mate. :)

Greek History, hmm... I learned a lot about the world of ancient Greece a few years ago from "Myth & Epic" class. Assignment-wise: We didn't have to write a report on the Illiad or the Odyssey, we had to participate in discussions of both during class. That wasn't bad. Actually it was rather fun. Our last assignment, which was sort of like a thesis, was to create our own epic story with our own original ideas -- none taken from any culture, book, or movie. We had all these guidelines to follow. One of the guidelines was to include a given amount of the mythical motifs in our story, and be sure to include and follow all the seasonal rituals. Along with the written story, we had to write a report critiquing our own work. We also had to point out and explain all the mentioned motifs and rituals from our own story and any and every other detail within it that compared to and matched with other myths and epics. It was a lot of work, took a lot of study, and was the basis of most of our grade for the class. I only wished that we were allowed to write the story as long as we wanted. We had to keep it a certain length because of how many theses the teacher had to go through before the school year ended. All in all, I loved that class. :) (**sigh** Ah, memories ... **thinks about something** OH MAN! Now I've given myself more stuff to do. >:P)

Theresa: I can't quite remember -- it's been pretty busy over here lately -- did one of your cats have kittens? Congratulations! Which one had kittens, how many, what do they look like, and how are the little bundles of joy doing? :)

Christine: Fire Storm has "Big Brown Truck" Syndrome too. We've been impatiently waiting for computer parts and "other goodies" packages that haven't come yet. :( When's that stupid truck coming? Anyway... I'm pacing the carpet right behind Theresa who's right behind you. I hope those books come today. Keep us posted and good luck. :)

I've got good news and bad news. Good new is that my cousin is getting married on October 3rd of this year. Bad new is that Fire Storm is NOT invited. When I asked my cousin if FS could come, my cousin immediately said a flat out "NO". Talk about being subtle... Well, either way, I know all the possibilities of why they don't want FS to be present. And that's the kicker. Ahh, I'll stop now, unless some of you are interested in lending an ear/eye -- you know what I mean.

"Lending an ear or an eye", now that sounds really vulgar. Hyena and Jackal, get out of here! And take your gourmet treats with you! <G>

Lady Mystic - [Lady-Mystic]
Dearborn, MI
Thursday, September 24, 1998 02:07:03 PM
IP: dhcp180.visitus.net

Greetings all...

Christine> Just think, when the books do ARRIVE finally, you'll have to deal with all of the advance orders and a few gratis copies as well . . . but, hope things work out okay. As far as SK goes, well... He made be a writer, but in my opinion, that man is possessed or something! The only book I read of his was "The Running Man" but (because I read it after seeing the Schwartzeneger film) it left me with great dissapointment. But, to each their own I guess.

Alternate Timelines??? Jericho kills Elisa, Hudson and the unborn child??? <best impression of Genie) WHOOOOAA-WHOA! What's going on here!? I fervently hope THAT never comes to pass, Chris! (Can you tell I STILL have a thing for when Chris talks about killing off characters?? <g>)

Dumlaox> Happy Belated Birthday Greetings Bri! Just think, in one more year we can toast to you with champange instead of 7-up! :) j/k! Hope you got what you wanted for your big gift...

My Site> Design is nearly done, now I have to begin the task of wiping out the old one and uploading the new one. Main changes: Navagation Bars on the top of each page, the contest is gone (no one played! SNIFF!), and I've moved a lot of stuff off into separate rooms. PLUS - I did some web searching, and added graphics of the characters from the other shows I featured in my Crossovers, so people that haven't seen them can see who they are. Next Crossovers: A "Pirates of Dark Water" story and "Gargoyles Meets Transformers".

Oh, and there will be a page dedicated to the stories I wrote/co-wrote for TGS . . .but probably won't be up until after the season is either half or completely over.

Anyway, thats all for me! Maintain and Check Six!

:::Holds out his hand, and a TV-Remote pops out of his sleeve... presses a button, and his body is sucked away in a "down the drain" effect from "Stay Tuned!":::


StephenRS - [stephenrsjr]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, September 24, 1998 12:17:47 PM
IP: 56.ieway.com

The wait goes on ... I know I shouldn't be letting myself get all worked up to the point where I'm shaky and my stomach's so upset that I wind up calling out sick from work. Yet I did. I wasn't even this bad when Becca's due date arrived! (at least she arrived the next day and didn't keep telling me there were delays and they were changing distributors and stuff!).

Stephen King > I am reading his latest, Bag of Bones, and one character has _convinced_ me that SK has watched at least a few eps of Gargoyles. One character is an extremely wealthy 85 year old fossil, and dig on this description:
"His wheelchair hardly looked like a wheelchair at all. What it looked like was a motorcycle sidecar crossed with a lunar lander ..." and then "Scrawny, blue-lipped, the skin around his eyes and the corners of his mouth a dark exploded purple ... a few wisps of white hair still clung to his scaly skull ..."

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:31:37 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

11 days until the Rising.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, September 24, 1998 07:21:23 AM
IP: pn3-ppp-110.primary.net

[Wilek glides in.] Hi all.

Coyote> Another one bites the dust. :) Call me or Miriam if you need help with those spoony bards. [Suddenly, Shenzi the caterer comes in with very fresh steak sandwiches.] Thanks Shenz'. Mmm these are good.

Christine> Speaking of Stephen King, I once read a very interesting quote from him. Something to the effect of, "Some call me a horrible person. But really, I have the heart of a child. In a jar on my desk." >:) I like to add to it sometimes: "You should have been there when I got it. You've never heard such whining. And I ruined three spoons." >:) Fun.

Bye everyone. [Wilek glides out, wondering when Curse Of The Shadow Beasts will be out.]

Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 11:42:27 PM
IP: tnt-1-146-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**Coyote enters the room, having freshly buried the remains of Coyote the Nervous.**

Okay, that unpleasant task is done. I have a question to ask of the assembly.

**Interrupted by Coyote the Gearhead.**

What? You want to ask it? I don't think so.

**the Gearhead asks why**

Because all the other clones that have spoken to the assembly have wound up suffering gruesome deaths. The Mad Hacker was ventilated, the Art-iste was immolated, and you just saw the Nervous get wishboned!

**the Gearhead backs off.**

Okay. Now, as I was saying before, I'm wondering if anyone here knows where I can find a good b/w line drawing of Lexington. The reason why is because I decided to go ahead and name the new car Lexington, and I'm thinking of having some vinyl stick-ons made for it. In particular, I'm looking for any pics of Lex in flight, or a profile shot where Lex looks extremely pissed off. Either direction will do: it has to be scanned into a computer anyway, it can be reversed in the machine.

Thanks in advance.

**Coyote leaves the room, passing by the disappointed, but relieved, Coyote the Gearhead.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 11:41:10 PM
IP: 207.91.254.68

**Coyote enters the room kind of nervously. What could be going on?**

Heh ...

Sevarius Jr., Todd: Uhh ... I already killed Elisa in my fanfics. And don't think I'm not catching holy hell for it every ... single ... day!!

**Bursting into the room come Goliath and Elisa, who each grab a leg. Elisa yells, "Make a wish!!"**

Oh, GOD, NOOOO!!!!

**Goliath and Elisa proceed to wishbone Coyote straight up the middle. Their work done, the couple embrace and leave the room.**

**A minute later, another Coyote enters the room laughing.**

Haha, they FELL for it! (of course, that leaves me with 22 ...)

**Coyote pulls together the remains of his third clone, Coyote the Nervous, and leaves.**

Coyote the Nervous and Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:54:15 PM
IP: 207.91.254.68

For shame, Sevarius Jr. Without Elisa, the gargs would never have survived; they'd have been easy pickings during the day for all their enemies. It's thanks to Elisa that they were able to forge a new life for themselves in the 1990's. Besides, nobody here's going to volunteer to kill Elisa because of what Goliath would do to them in return :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:41:58 PM
IP: pn4-ppp-160.primary.net

God I'm gonna get all kinds of heat for this, but frankly
I
hate
<-----------------HER!

Go ahead, kill her! She was always the most annoying thing about the show. Never liked her...

Sevarius Jr.
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:24:50 PM
IP: 207-172-142-115.s115.tnt21.brd.erols.com

Wavelength. The problem isn't with Xoom as such, but no address to go to. Christine's website doesn't seem to have the link or I'm passing it by.

Christine I know what its like waiting. My grocery people never seem to get the orders right and then they have to ship stuff out UPS forgetting the delivery Saturday stickers. This time I got the order monday, but a box of bags and a case of pineapple don't look like two cases of cherry syrup. Do the delivery guys even read the invoices? Oh well, at least the truck had everything this week. Don't forget to check for damaged cartons then and there no matter how impatient the delivery guy is.
Hopefully tomarrow.

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:06:44 PM
IP: proxy-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Nice timeline, Christine. (But I'm a bit biased; I've always been fond of timelines and chronologies).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 09:58:43 PM
IP: pn4-ppp-160.primary.net

Starsinger> Xoom is having a problem today. Try again later.
Christine> I'm so glad the killings of Hudson, Elisa, her baby, and Jericho are in an alternate future. Please don't go there, I like them all too much.
*impatiently waiting for the publisher to release Curse of the Shadow Beasts*

Wavelength
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 09:58:12 PM
IP: unit11b.miseri.edu

Uhh, Christine, where on Xoom are you hiding the picture files. I couldn't find a link at your website for them. Timeline line was great. Sniff, why did Jerico go kill Elisa, Hudson and the unborn baby??
Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 08:31:38 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Firestorm >>> Webtv upgraded the webplus system last week and in theory, when I rewire the vcr/tv/web connections (Where did I put that stupid manuel???) I should be able to freezeframe tv or video signals or audio signals and send them in the e-mail. Right now I can send page urls that way but not everyone can unscramble them. If I were really, really mean I could get every story file and send them to you one at a time. But I'm not really that mean. I believe SPAM belongs as a cooking contest at the state fair.

Christine >>> you're being worried that we will find you long winded on your posts??? You're the
Gargoyle bodice ripper Queen and we have how many stories to prove it??? Your bordom and nail bitting is showing. New pics. New timeline. We still waiting right along with you and wearing a hole in our carpets half a step behind you. Talk to us if it helps. We're a goo audiance and love o listen.

Later world.
Auntie Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 07:21:30 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Books could be here any minute and I am losing my mind ...

Sterling House called today and they're all, "we got our copies, don't they look beautiful?" and I'm here tearing my hair out in clumps and running to the window every time a car goes by ...

But I have also added some new stuff to my page! New pics in the Gallery (which has moved to xoom, btw), and a Timeline of events ranging from the momentous to the mundane in my fanfic universe (clickie to see).

Speaking of authors, I am about to realize a lifelong (well, a 20-year-long) dream and will see Stephen King in person! He's doing a reading this Friday, and while I wasn't early enough to get a ticket to get an autograph, I will be there, and might hopefully have the chance to give _him_ a signed copy of _mine_ (if they ever get here, aaaaaa! there go a few more clumps of hair, I'll have to wear a wig else he'll wonder what the deal is with this bald woman ...)

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 04:27:43 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

12 more days??? Great!!
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 03:24:34 PM
IP: p34-owlet-gui.tch.virgin.net

Theresa: I don't have a death wish. I am just preparing for the journey beyond.
Also... what do you want to do to my computer?

Mandi: Oh yeah... My stuff is finally in the Gargoyles Fan Archive.


Fire Storm/Night Flame - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 02:41:21 PM
IP: dhcp176.visitus.net

Only 12 more days until the Rising.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 07:18:54 AM
IP: pn9-ppp-202.primary.net

[Wilek rides back in.]

Huh? Looks like the submission CGI didn't bother to translate some of my HTMLscript into plaintext. The HTML script was "&nb sp;" without the quotes or the space between "b" and "s".

[Wilek catches a glimpse of what's left of the CR lawyer.] Yeccch. [Wilek rides out.]

Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 12:30:46 AM
IP: tnt-1-37-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

[Wilek rides in on Woofy, who mule-kicks the CR lawyer. The lawyer is flung twenty feet and hits the wall head first.] Heh heh heh. <in southern accent>You ever been kicked by a bantha, boy?</in southern accent> [Wilek looks at how he typed that.] Whoa, I'm beginning to think in HTML. BAD sign.

Mandi> I think I *have* found a better way than <DD>. Put       before whatever you want to indent. I just hope I don't get carpal tunnel from adding that to every paragraph of my story. Or do gargs get carpal tunnel? No, the stone sleep cures it. Or the transformation in my case.

Monica and Bill> I'M SICK OF HEARING OF IT! I totally agree with Doug's assessment (sp?) of the situation. [Wilek orders his Dark Star shipyard to launch 10 TIE Defenders to skywrite Doug's post about Monica and Bill in glow in the dark smoke.] Once, my TV was left on one of the 27 squillion channels where Clinton was giving testimony. He was giving his precise definition of sensual relations. AAAACCCCKKKK!!!! And some predict those tapes will outsell Titanic. They'll outsmell it at least.

Nietzche> The man was *more* than a little disturbed, gargs and girls. Can you say "selective breeding of human beings"? Before there was Sevarius, there was Nietzche. With much more primitive scientific equipment, at that. At least Sevarius doesn't involve himself in politics as well as eugenics. Oberon only knows how Nietzche might have experimented on a garg.

Well, got to leave. Hope I didn't tick anyone off just then. [Wilek rides out on Woofy. While he's walking out, Woofy walks on the CR lawyer, who is still unconscious from being kicked. Then two of the skywriting TIE Defenders crash into the CR, right on top of the lawyer. The pilots climb out miraculously unharmed. They're Buick and Rush.] YOW, that's gotta smart. That's the second time Buick has stolen a TD. I've got to get better security for those. [Buick and Rush bark and show Wilek their collars.] Wha...? You're certified TIE pilots assigned to the Dark Star? [Buick and Rush arf happily.] OK...I'd better leave. [Woofy continues out of the CR.]

Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 12:24:43 AM
IP: tnt-1-37-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Doug: Tell me about Nietzsche. My teach told us the first day of class that "Nietzsche, in the latter days of his life, went insane, but most people attribute that to his syphilis..." What? Then why the hell am I supposed to follow the political theory of a nutcase? Plato, now there was the man.

As for Ken Starr, kudos to the man who brought us such great bedtime reading. And I do mean BEDTIME reading! ;)


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 12:18:42 AM
IP: 207-172-41-129.s129.tnt10.brd.erols.com

(Doug walks in, on guard for the CR lawyer. The lawyer, unnoticed, sneaks up behind Doug and puts a "Kick Me" sign on his back, then sneaks off, restraining himself from laughter.)

Phew, no sign of that guy anywhere. Okay, time to post:

Sevarius Jr.: I don't find those politics interesting myself. My opinion on the Clinton troubles: What is his problem? Monica, Paula, and Tripp all look like &*%^, and Hillary, well to put it in D&D terms, has 18 Charisma. And Starr has got to be the biggest a-hole in Washington with what he put in that report and how long he's dragged on this case. Sigh, oh well, at least it's almost over. (I hope!)

On the Illiad: I like the Illiad, too. And the other epics you mentioned. But having to write a four-page paper on the Illiad, where I have to pick the topic, on Lisa and my anniversary weekend, really made me mad. Oh well, at least I got the paper done. I like classic literature a lot personally, my favorite Greek epics are Aeneid, Odyssey, and Hortensius (ask Mr. Duval if you want a copy of the last one <gr> ). There are lots of other classics I like too. My favorites from medieval times are L'Morte d'Arthur and Dante's Inferno. For the Rennaissance, it's the plays of Shakespeare and the political thought of Locke, Rousseau, and their contemporaries. Then, for the 19th century, I like Jules Verne, Charles Dickens, and Mark Twain. Since then, classic literature's only gotten better with guys like Tolstoy, Nabokov, Fitzgerald, and L. Ron Hubbard. My favorite authors of today are Tom Clancy, RA Salvatore, Stephen King, Kevin J. Andersen, Robert Jordan, and Margaret Weis. (And probably you too, Christine, after I read your novel. Has it arrived yet?)

On Nietzche: I've never read that book of his, but I have read a couple others. That man was a little disturbed, but he did have quite a way with words. My favorite quote of his is "That evil that does not kill us makes us stronger." It's a good motto for any gamer, what with experience and all. :)

Okay, that's all for now. Later!
(Doug turns and walks out, the sign taped to his back still unnoticed.)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:39:04 PM
IP: hd48-083.hil.compuserve.com

[Wilek rides in on Woofy the bantha.]

Mandi> I'll try that; thanks!

Doug> I like sports *even* *less*. I simply don't see the point of them.

Coyote> You *do* realize I was kidding about Irene Ng?

[Quite suddenly, someone somewhere understands precisely what and why the universe is. It disappears, to be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Interestingly, the CR is virtually unchanged.] You've gotta love a Blaisism that destroys the known universe. Gotta run all. [Wilek rides out.]

Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:09:46 PM
IP: tnt-1-37-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hey, I liked the Iliad. And the Aeneid, and the Odyssey. I find them to be classic literature from one of my favorite subjects, Greek history.

Doug's the lucky one. I'm having to read Nietzsche's "The Gay Science." Geez, political theory makes my head hurt....Why the hell can't we just talk about Bill and Monica? Now THAT's some interesting government.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 10:51:30 PM
IP: 207-172-41-129.s129.tnt10.brd.erols.com

**Coyote enters the room slung over the shoulder of Sparty, the Michigan State mascot.**

Okay, that's far enough, Sparty, you can put me down now!

**Sparty sets Coyote down and leaves, finally, doing a little dance on his way out the door.**

Yeah, that's real cute ... (groan) ... he has to take every chance he can get to practice for the big game on Saturday!

Brian: No, the twins weren't with the older Brooklyn and Sata when they came back. The next story involving most of the clan will show what happens when the twins are reunited with their parents. (the next story coming up, BTW, will be focusing on Liberty and Nokkar.)
BTW, did you see the pic yet? Click my name to see it.

Hmm ... not much going on here.

**Coyote exits the room, softly singing the obscene lyrics to "The Victors" on his way out.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 10:33:11 PM
IP: 207.91.254.68

(The UT Football Team enters the CR, carrying Bevo the Longhorn on their shoulders. Riding Bevo is Doug.)
Okay, I do not know why I am doing this Blaise-ism since I have little or no school spirit personally. I'm actually the rare sort of man who doesn't even like watching sports. (Though I do check baseball scores in the paper every morning, Go Astros!!!) Oh well, guess it's just for fun.

Mandi: Glad you're liking it. So far, everyone is, despite the bad feeling I got when I posted that story that I was going to be seriously flamed again (last time was during "Fall of Nightstone," and it was partially deserved). Hope you enjoy the rest of it. Please send any further feedback to me by e-mail. People have been telling me I need to keep fanfic talk out of these comment rooms. Thanks for the praise, just the same.

Coyote: I apologize if I offended you with that Helen of Troy thing. You understand, right? :)

AotN: I too can hardly wait two weeks for the Rising. When it begins, we will both be very happy.

Later all.
(Doug motions the grunting football players to turn around and they all rush out of the comment room, Bevo mooing as they go and Doug shouting "Hook 'Em!!".)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 09:54:43 PM
IP: hd80-012.hil.compuserve.com

**The door opens, and an avalanche of assorted costumes, props, and artifacts no one's ever seen the like of before explodes through, carrying Mandi with it. She lands on the top of the pile and sits up, dusting herself off.**

That does it; I've got to clean out my closet.

DumlaoX -- I'm probably the last to say it, but HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!

Al -- The birthday page was really cute. :)

Wilek -- On the HTML, I have seen one example of paragraph indenting that works (there may be a "better" way, but I don't know it). Put a <DD> tag right before the text of each paragraph to get it to indent, and don't put any line or paragraph breaks after the paragraph once you've done that. It should work. Anyone know any better ways to pull that off?

Doug -- The Iliad? **shudder** My sympathies. I'd prefer my Discrete exam to that. Started reading "One Psycho to Another" this morning before class, and really liked what I read.

Night Flame -- I noticed "A Mid-Autumn's Night Dream" on the GFW archive...hope you get more good feedback!

Coyote -- Love the pic of Ariana! That expression on her face is exactly what I pictured at the end of "Prodigals."

**Maddie and Colleen come in wearing pajamas and grab Mandi by the arms. Realizing where they're taking her, Mandi begins to kick and scream as they drag her off.**

NOOOO! I don't want to go to the hall meeting!!!

**They drag her through the opposite door. Peace and quiet resumes.**

Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 09:46:29 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

La! La-la-la-la llaaaa! La-la-la!
~Excuse me--sugar rush!!~
AotN
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 09:42:33 PM
IP: dialup-103-3.sssnet.com

I can't wait 13 days!!!
AotN
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 09:40:16 PM
IP: dialup-103-3.sssnet.com

I can't wait 13 days!!!!
AotN
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 09:39:24 PM
IP: dialup-103-3.sssnet.com

[Wilek comes in, in his human form.]

Deuce> I am just like that about Pendragon and Dark Ages. The only DA story I have ever read was "First Do No Harm", and that was just to find the Babylon 5 references.

Does anyone here know how to make a paragraph indentation in HTMLscript? There's no example of it in TGS. Is it even possible? I know how to make a separated line, but how does one indent a paragraph? I've tried TAB and five hits of the space bar; neither has worked.

Must run, gotta learn more about HTML. [Wilek leaves.]

Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 05:48:07 PM
IP: tnt-1-163-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

(The door to the comment room opens and Brian is pushed in in a wheel chair . He is coughing , wearing a hot water bottle on his head and wrapped in blankets , his skin is pail and covered in a rash . The wheel chair is pushed by a black man of lean build but has strong arms , he has a machette in a sheath attached to his belt .)
Hey guys , sorry I have'nt posted with the usual frequency but my health has'nt been at its optimum level for the past couple of days . When I ca'nt defend myself too well I carry Jebediah here along , there's a very good reason why Coconut men do'nt get robbed despite the fact that they often have over 2000 dollars on them at any one time .

Dumlo X : Happy belated birthday man , and the new site looks good and loading is even faster since it is'nt as long .

Doug and Lisa happy belated anniversary to you two .

Jeez , this is what happens when I do'nt post for two days ?

Lady Mystic : Thanks for the well wishes but what does "S.O." stand for ?

Coyote : Pretty good story . Were Graeme and Arianna with Brooklyn and Sata when they came back ?

(Jebediah begins to wheel Brian out of the room , as they are about to leave the room Brian catches a glimpse of the CR lawyer still fighting with Binky's attorney . )
Hmmm , a healthy body .

Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 02:38:31 PM
IP: 208.11.41.207

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUMLAO X!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@aol.com]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 01:23:31 PM
IP: spider-ta062.proxy.aol.com

*looks around* I haven't been here in *checks watch* at least six months. And even then it was under a different name, e-mail, etc.... Anyway, stuff sure has changed. Now that I'm back in school, I have 'Net access, and I can catch up to all the stuff I missed with the series-plural. I only keep up with Gargoyles and TD for reasons of limited time (plus, Pendragon and Dark Ages aren't too interesting for me). But I am enjoying what the guys and gals have done with the storyline since I left. Yes, I was on the staff for awhile in the project's very, very early days, and left for the omnipresent reason: time, lack of it. :) But I have enough to read, just not to write. Oh, well, I'm just a-yakkin' now, so I'll take off. *spreads greyish wings and leaves*
Deuce - [halfpastsix@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 01:20:16 PM
IP: temple.ecs.edmonton.ab.ca

*wanders in, waving shyly to all the folks, familiar and not* Uhm..Hey, all! Know I don't usually come in here, but..*shrugs* Figured, what the heck?

Basically, I just wanted to let y'all know how happy I am the comment room's doing so well. I remember back when Bri was first setting this thing up, we were lucky if more than a handful of non-staffers bothered to drop by. But now...man, all these new faces! It's so cool!

Ah, well... *grins, kisses DumlaoX on the cheek, and meanders on out the way she came*

Al =) - [alwilgus@gis.net]
Boston, MA
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 08:27:56 AM
IP: 206.231.63.81

13 days until the Rising.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, September 22, 1998 07:15:58 AM
IP: pn3-ppp-140.primary.net

(Doug walks in, looks at Helen, and yells, "Ha! I've seen better looking people in Bill Clin-Ton's office!!" The Greek lady looks shocked and confused. Doug leaves her that way and walks toward CR center.)

Sorry, I had to read the Illiad last weekend for an English paper. I couldn't resist doing that. Muhahhaa!!!

Coyote: That pic...Man, Arianna looks mad!! Not to mention vicious. I'd hate to be Demona when Arianna finds her. Yes, please put that in your gallery. And keep up the good work.

Okay, that's all for now.
(Doug hands the confused Helen a copy of the Starr report and then leaves. Helen reads the first three pages and flees the Comment Room screaming. Looks like Doug's about to get himself in big trouble once again!)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, September 21, 1998 11:34:50 PM
IP: hd80-230.hil.compuserve.com

[The TARDIS pops in, depositing Wilek in medieval English attire and Miriam in the uniform of the Black Watch.] Chocolate chip cyber cookie for Theresa! And for Coyote as well; I think that may be another form of gladius. Since I don't know his favorite flavor, I'll just invite him to take one from this. [Wilek holds out a tray containing one cookie of each flavor known to sentient life. Coyote takes one. and Wilek returns the tray to the TARDIS.] The oatmeal-raisin bit was a reference to Xanatos; that's his favorite cookie flavor. I think Owen knows the recipe by heart. [Socrates comes out, saying something in Greek. Wilek understands it thanks to the hearing-aid-like universal translator he's wearing.] Better go. [Wilek, Miriam, and Socrates get in the TARDIS and it leaves.]
Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 11:13:22 PM
IP: tnt-2-34-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**Coyote and Helen pop their heads back in the room long enough for Coyote to add:

Wilek: I'm not sure that I've got enough money to hire Irene Ng to record a six second line for a .WAV file (not to mention that I don't have the facilities to record .WAVs). And isn't a gladius that ankh-looking thing that Dr. Who uses to control the TARDIS?

**Coyote and Helen leave. Buick whimpers like he's being left out of something, then jogs off looking for somebody else to carjack.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:58:58 PM
IP: 207.91.254.29

Wilek a gladius is a roman short sword. And I like chocolate chip please.

Auntie Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:58:05 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Firestorm I remind you that death wishes can be fulfilled and we are always looking for human sacrifices. Drat!!! I forgot. Most of the people in this room aren't human. Yes SG-1 will be on Fox. Fox probably won't cut too much seeing has how they are broadcasting at 9:00 at night.
If I were mean and cruel Firestorm, I'd find out if your computer can take a webtv page send. Some can, some can't. Then I'd just send you e-mails with the page code embedded. They've up graded and I should be able to send video stills and audio as well once I rewire the back of my vcr and web to the right cross conections.

Later world it's my bedtime

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:55:29 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

[The TARDIS appears in the CR. Its doors open, revealing Wilek and Miriam. Wilek is in the attire of a Roman gladiator, Miriam is in a black version of the elaborate dress of ancient Chinese nobility. Hopefully that's not how they'll appear in the WCC pic. :) ]

Coyote> Wow, thanks! That was a LOT sooner than I expected. And the Ariana pic...I quite like the idea. Full of angst and pathos and such. Go for it. Hire your ideal voice actress for her to do an accompanying WAV file while you're at it. ^_^ If your other pics are any indication, I'll bet ours will be extremely kewl.

[Abraham Lincoln, wearing futuristic armor and carrying a pulse rifle, peeks his head out of the TARDIS and motions Wilek and Miriam to return.] Better go. Bye. [Wilek and Miriam return to the TARDIS, which disappears. It reappears and Wilek comes out.] Oops, left my gladius in here. A cyber oatmeal raisin cookie to whoever knows what a gladius is. [Wilek, gladius in claw, returns to the TARDIS, which disappears.]

Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:54:46 PM
IP: tnt-2-34-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**Coyote enters the room, scanning all around for Buick, Rush and the De Lorean, but not seeing them.**

Whew!

DumlaoX: I don't know *why* I didn't say this earlier, but Happy B-Day. Have some fun tonight, just don't do anything I wouldn't do! (then again, don't do anything I would! ;))

Well, I was trying to catch up on some of the WCC commissions and came across a pic I've been meaning to put up in my gallery. I want all of you guys' opinion on it first, though, and I'm asking you guys specifically because this is the TGS room and it's a pic of an older Ariana. Truth be told, it's the last scene from "Prodigals." (the title is "I swear, that blue b***h is DEAD!") Comments are welcomed, of course. I want a verdict on whether it should go up in the gallery or not.

(and BTW, Wilek, your pic will be the next one scanned and colored. It's you, Miriam and Liberty in one pic, so that I can post it in my WCC room.)

Hmmm ... do you feel that?

**Coyote jumps out of the way barely in time as the De Lorean suddenly appears in the room. The doors open, allowing Buick and Rush to exit. Out of the back seat comes a shapely woman in ancient Greek attire.**

Hmm ... Helen of Troy ... this could be promising.

**Coyote loops an arm around Helen of Troy and escorts her out of the room.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:37:26 PM
IP: 207.91.254.29

DumlaoX: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

SG-1 on sindication: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I can just see S&P MASSIVELY editing the show.

I can't get to the Dark Ages episodes. Whats soing on?
<G> Just kidding Theresa!

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:29:28 PM
IP: dhcp219.visitus.net

Hey anyone who cares, I updated my fanfic page and planned ALOT of stuff. Just click on my name and let me know what you think, because I'm so lonely (<----he he, that, that's a little joke). Thanks, later.......
Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:00:23 PM
IP: 168-118-124.ipt.aol.com

[Wilek glides in, narrowly avoiding Rush and Buick.] What have I done, unleashing a SECOND driving dog on our society.

SJ> Maybe Gurgi, Taran, and Eilonwy ARE from Arianna's world. I shall have to ask her. And you're the *next* to last to wish DumlaoX a happy birthday.^_^

DumlaoX> Happy birthday! Or hatchingday as the case may be.

[Buick and Rush drive in and begin to re-enact the Indy 500 in the CR. They accidentally run down the CR lawyer. Seventeen times.] He takes a licking and keeps on serving supoenas. :) I couldn't think of any legal jargon that rhymes with "licking", "beating", or "squishing". I wonder why when I said "licking" and "beating" I suddenly thought of Christine's stories. Kidding, Christine! :) [Rush pushes a red button in Miriam's Cadillac. The car reforms into something more futuristic looking, unfolds thrusters from its trunk, ignites them, and climbs the wall to begin racing on the ceiling.] OK, now I'm REAL suspicious about who Miriam works for. I'd better leave. [Wilek glides out just as Miriam comes in. She manipulates a remote control, and her car returns to normal, including coming down off the ceiling. She produces what could be a tire pressure gauge from her pocket, extends it, asks everyone to look into it, and presses a button. There is a flash, something like a flash from a camera.]

Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 09:46:00 PM
IP: tnt-2-34-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Wilek: Todd pretty much summed my explanation all up. Arawn, Gurgi, Taran, and Eilonwy were all characters in Lloyd Alexander's Prydain Chronicles. I loved those books when I was a kid, and still remember them fondly. I'm not a poster in the other comment room, so I had no idea that your meaning of Arawn was different than the one I was familiar with.

Oh, and I'm probably the last one to say it, but Dumlao, have a happy birthday. Your present may not come for a few more days, I'm still growing it in the lab...

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, September 21, 1998 08:43:31 PM
IP: 207-172-45-75.s75.tnt5.brd.erols.com

Just as an aside to everything here: this discussion of temporal mechanics is kind of freaking me out ... that I've never even studied quantum physics, and yet my theories are *actually making sense!!* I must be smarter than I thought!

(either that, or it's Star Trek overload. Whatever.)

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 06:36:14 PM
IP: 207.91.254.46

**Coyote jumps in to modify his past statement with the following:**

Todd: Doug had a theory on that one, too. He thought Brooklyn might have either exaggerated or flat-out lied to Rosanna to get her and the Clan to fight harder.

Either way, you won't find out who was right until the fat lady sings on WCC. And any more than that, I ain't saying.

**Coyote magically produces a zipper, which he promply glues to his mouth. He walks out of the room mumbling.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 06:33:25 PM
IP: 207.91.254.46

Taran, Eilonwy, and Gurgi are characters in Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, an excellent fantasy series for younger readers which also provided the basis for Disney's "The Black Cauldron" (a movie which got less success, IMHO, than it deserved upon theatrical release in 1985, but has recently been re-released on video).

COYOTE - Thanks for clearing that up. It might just work. (But what will that do to TimeDancer Brooklyn, if the Rokkan triumph is part of his past? Will he cease to exist? What about his kids and Nudnik - and Samson and Ariana's egg?)

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, September 21, 1998 06:24:28 PM
IP: pn7-ppp-114.primary.net

**Coyote enters the room with a huge amount of paperwork under his arm.**

Okay, now that I've paid for the car, where'd he go?

Wilek: No, it wasn't supposed to be confusing, and I was hoping it wouldn't be. I'm glad it made sense.

Todd: I thought of that one, too. My explanation as to why the future wasn't changed would probably be one of two things, either A) Demona had already been twisted in her priorities by the Archmage (which would make her relationship with Goliath all the more farcical, at least from her POV), or B) because future-Demona didn't tell past-Demona the events which led to the Wyvern massacre, past-Demona wound up committing the same mistakes as future-Demona in an attempt to prevent the Wyvern massacre, ultimately leading *to* it.
Besides, there's one major difference between "Vows" and "Pas de Deux:"
In "Vows," Demona shared the information with her past self.
In "Pas de Deux," Brooklyn shared his information with *a different person.* My theory is as far as sharing information to try to change a future goes, it doesn't work if you tell yourself what happens.

Okay, where is that beastie ...?

**Coyote hears a loud, muffler-less engine noise approaching, and braces himself. Suddenly the wall collapses, and Buick (in the hatchback) and Rush (in the Cadillac) drag-race into the room. Coyote jumps out of their way.**

Incidentally, I just bought that car today IRL. I'm thinking of naming it Lexington, because its color is almost like Lex's skin tone on my TV set. Just thought I'd toss that one in.

**Coyote sprints out of the room, hoping to avoid the infamous CR Lawyer.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 05:52:31 PM
IP: 207.91.254.46

[Wilek glides in to see Doug about to get the snot sued out of him by Binky's lawyer.] Uh oh. Perhaps we finally have a valid use for the CR lawyer. HEY! GET IN HERE! [The CR lawyer comes to fight Binky's lawyer while Doug makes his escape. While the two lawyers are occupied, Miriam and Rush chase them both off.] Yes that was a shameless plug.

SJ> Umm...who are Taran, Eilonwy, and Gurgi? I was pretty much basing the Annwn stuff on what Arianna has talked about in the other CR.

Coyote The Bando> I wasn't confused at all by your explanation. Was...it supposed to be confusing?

Well, I'm off. [Rush and Buick come through, Rush driving a black Cadillac and Buick driving a brown hatchback.] Oh man, not again. This is the second time Miriam's Cadillac has been stolen by a dog. We have two driving dogs now. Ack. I'd better leave. [Wilek artfully dodges two badly-driven cars and glides off.]

Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 02:35:56 PM
IP: tnt-1-139-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Okay, the fanfic I mentioned earlier is now up. Click my name to go see it. If you read, please send feedback, as it will be appreciated. Thank you.

Till nightfall.

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, September 21, 1998 02:21:33 PM
IP: hd61-099.hil.compuserve.com

Happy 20th b-day Dumlao!
Void - [strangeone@iname.com]
Monday, September 21, 1998 02:13:32 PM
IP: gatekeeper.fontbonne.edu

COYOTE - I finally got to read your more recent instalments (thanks to a visit to the library, whose Internet browser doesn't have the allergy to geocities sites that mine does). Good work, too. (Though I've got to admit, Angela's attack on Rosanna shocked the bejeebers out of me).

About the business of changing history: I doubt that a person from the past can change the future in the Gargoyles Universe. Remember "Vows"? The Demona of 975 was shown the future by the Demona of 1995 (namely, the Wyvern Massacre); she tried to avert it, and failed. So Rosanna may have no better hope at changing the future than her stepmother did.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, September 21, 1998 12:33:34 PM
IP: pn10-ppp-169.primary.net

(Binky the Clown comes into the CR, screaming at the top of his lungs, "HEY GARGOYLES FANS!!!!" He then begins dancing around DumlaoX, going "Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday, Whoopeee DOO, Whooppee DOO," while spraying the unamused looking gargoyle with water and throwing pies at anyone he deems worthy of one. Suddenly a shotgun blast echos through the CR and Binky screams as it tears into him, "This is not a nice way to play!" Doug and two large Clown Removal Specialist Robots walk in, Doug directs the robots to get rid of the still screaming clown, and then walks forward to say his piece.)

DumlaoX- Okay, I got rid of him. There's your present. Happy birthday. Saw Alison's site, btw. She did a great job! (Especially, I'm sure, in the parts I didn't look at.) <gr> (adopts Callahan accent) You got quite a girl there, mate. Hope you live a long time together and make lots of little mates and sheilas. (goes back to normal voice) Good luck.

Theresa: Thanks, I checked the text site and read.

Wilek: I'll read your story later. I just got up now and have precious little time before class. But I'm looking forward to fondly perusing it.

Shameless Plug: Later today, I will have a new fanfic (yes, I know it was fast) posted on the GFW archive!!! It will deal with Demona's reformation, Demona vs. the Hunter, Demona making new friends, Demona getting a job, Demona finding an apartment, and generally all things Demona and a little more besides. "One Psycho to Another," (title's kind of a metaphor) as soon as it's proofread and posted, enjoy!! (Hopefully.)
(End Shameless Plug)

Okay, that's all for now. Later!
(Doug turns to leave, to see a shabby man in a shabby suit approaching him. "Yes?" he asks. "I have here a suit from Binky the Clown's Lawyer," the man says, handing Doug a sheaf of papers. Doug groans, takes the suit, and walks out.)

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, September 21, 1998 12:29:34 PM
IP: hd31-136.hil.compuserve.com

Just stopping by to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY to DumlaoX. Best Wishes to you.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, September 21, 1998 12:15:23 PM
IP: 239.new-york-06-07rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Just came in to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY to DumlaoX, one more year and you can go out drinkin' with the rest of us nutters!
On a side note: is Ali's page fixed yet?
WhooHooo! Una!

Wavelength
Monday, September 21, 1998 10:47:30 AM
IP: unit1b.miseri.edu

**Coyote enters the room carrying a bowl of cereal that he chomps on while he speaks.**

Mmmmm ... breakfast .... (chomp chomp)

Doug, Ravyn, Aris: Thanks for the comments on the story!

Aris: I'm not going completely against the rules of the Phoenix Gate with my revelation. I seem to remember a theory about time travel that states a being from the future cannot change the past, but a being from the past can change the future. In other words, in my story, Brooklyn cannot affect meaningful change in the timeline by direct action because the future he knows is his own past. However, by revealing the future he knows to Rosanna, a being from the past (Rosanna) can affect meaningful change in the future by direct action. Rosanna knows this ... that's why at the end she says "let's find a way to change the future."

Confused yet? Because that completely confused the hell out of me.

**With a puzzled look on his face, Coyote turns to leave, only to be intercepted by Buick, driving a particular brownish hatchback. Buick drives off. Coyote drops his bowl of cereal in the trash can so that he can chase the doggoyle.**

GET BACK HERE!! I haven't even bought that machine yet!!

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 21, 1998 09:42:36 AM
IP: 207.91.254.33

Ordell: I saw Mallrats when it was on. They butchered whole portions of it. But, considering this was on ABC, I guess they had to delete certain portions to keep things clean.

Oh, and I haven't heard the new Manson yet. I like the Dope Show though. "We're all stars now....in the Dope Show...we're all stars now...."

Wilek: Hey, like the way you added Arawn in your fic. Any chance we'll see Taran or Eilonwy (Gurgi's my fave)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, September 21, 1998 08:47:03 AM
IP: 129.174.56.126

Coyote> Wow! Nice story! When Brooklyn revealed the future.... wow!

But tell me; do Rosanne's words mean that in your fanfic universe the timeline *is* changeable? (Unlike the series showed) Or would telling us that, be spoiling us?

Aris Katsaris - [Katsaris@otenet.gr]
Monday, September 21, 1998 08:31:56 AM
IP: athe530-b094.otenet.gr

14 days (or two weeks) until the Rising.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, September 21, 1998 07:00:57 AM
IP: pn9-ppp-181.primary.net

Repeat URL for text site for TGS Stories.

www.region3.com/gargsaga

People before panicing please check the days posts for any information. Our web guru is usually very good at letting people know what's going down unless it is unexpected. *CRASH* thunkthunkthud Darn cats!!

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, September 21, 1998 06:38:08 AM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

DUMLOAX-- The pic name. That's actually mine, only horribly misspelled.

THANX-- For all the well wishes and everything else. Don't know what I'd do without y'all.

THERESA-- Thanx much for letting people know over and over again that there is the text site to go to if you still want to read season 1 eps for now.

SITE 2.0-- Why is the links page dead? Basically, you can get more links and recent ones from Jeb's webpage. I don't have enough time to do with links what he does. Also, for those wondering, I post parts and updates of 2.0 simply to test it out in the web environment and make sure links work and other such stuff. Also, you get to see what I do and I get early comments on it. Works out both ways :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY-- to me :) I turn 20 today.

Oh, Alison, the love of my life, did something really cool for my b-day. Check it out at my name.

Till next time...

DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, September 21, 1998 04:08:36 AM
IP: ts27-14.wla.ts.ucla.edu

[Wilek glides in!]

Click my name! QUICK!!!

[Wilek glides out!]

Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 01:52:14 AM
IP: tnt-1-16-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Woohoo! 7th! I've never been in the top ten b4! *grins*
Void - [strangeone@iname.com]
Monday, September 21, 1998 01:08:36 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-21-26.stlsmo.swbell.net

[Wilek glides in.]

6th, in both rooms!

[Wilek glides out.]

Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 21, 1998 12:45:11 AM
IP: tnt-1-16-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Fifth.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:58:42 PM
IP: proxy-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net

hey, I'm 4th yeah, alright......anyone catch Kevin Smith's Mallrats on ABC a few weeks ago, where they dubbed over and cut out ENTIRE LINES OF DIALOUGE that made the movie what it was? Mostley in Jay's lines, which makes sense. Dogma comes out in December sometime, although I don't know who here is a Smith fan......anyone?

How about music....Marilyn Manson's new one is kick ass, Rock is Dead is the best song on there. I'm blabbering now, later.......

Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:35:20 PM
IP: 173-20-55.ipt.aol.com

Woo-hoo!!! BIG BAD 3RD!!!! Yeah! Anyways, just got done watching Revenge of the Nerds. Skolnick is my hero, man. Well, I'll get off now! Bye!
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:17:40 PM
IP: 207.204.224.97

What place am I?
Ravyn Maza
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:16:13 PM
IP: 207.204.224.97

Depending on how fast this goes through, I'm anywhere from 2nd to 5th. Hopefully 2nd.

For those who wanted to but didn't have a chance before the room wiped, click my name link to go to "Pas de Deux."

**Coyote sprints out, jumping back into the tornado with the other Coyote.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:05:20 PM
IP: 207.91.254.48

1st! Glorious FIRST! Ha ha! Bwah ha ha!
Sevarius Jr.
Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:01:22 PM
IP: 207-172-52-56.s56.tnt1.brd.erols.com