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<Traveler: Cannon Fodder!>
I like your style! <Hands Traveler a steaming mug of a unidentifiable liquid.
"What IS this, anyway?"
"Just dragons breath. It's safe! Drink it up!"
Traveler drinks it up and is soon burnt to a crisp.
<Cough> Good brew!">
Just out of curiousity, can anyone identify where THAT drink came from?
Todd: The Illuminati do NOT know about the third race? Then why do they have blocks that prevent fae from seeing them?
(I forget what story, but Owen says that the illuminati prevent him from seeing them.)
Bar Tender: The PIT crew are also in "The Rising"
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 10:39:48 PM
IP: dhcp162.visitus.net
(The door to the comment room is pushed open by a large , furred , clawed and powerfully muscled arm from the top of the door frame . The rest of the creature crawls into the room on the ceiling . It is revealed to have animalistic features in that it has a thick tail . large airs and sharp teeth . while its eyes are positioned to the front of it's head . It crawls to the middle of the ceiling and drops to the floor , but on the way down its arms shrink , its muzzle shortens and it develops the completely human features of Brian .)
I kinda like that Blaiseism .
For the Benefit of those who did'nt know , Our favourite Sentient ape from Planet of the apes , Roddy McDowell , past away on 9/28/98 .
TGS : (Brian dons robes via a spell , he then summons a sheep , slaughters it , draws a mystic symbol on the ground with its blood , and stands in its center .) Plot lines that I would really like to see developed this season are - Sharon Nimura , The Jewish Geneticist (I just ca'nt remember his name ) and I would reheeaaaaly like some character development between Lex and Liz . (Kneels and lights incense candle . ) Tell me O wise Orracle , is there any chance that these things will come to pass in this season .
Bruce Campbell - The man is funny , I've only ever seen Army of Darkness which I found to be totally ridiculous but still very funny . I also liked Brisco County Jr . And his work in Herculese and Xena is good too . (Autolycus peeping at Helen of Troy - There's a word for guys like me ..... LUCKY .)
J. Scott Campbell - I preferred his work in the early to mid Gen13 era . I find him almost as crazy with his Danger Girl work as Joe Maduriera after he left Uncanny X-men . Now his work was good , still is really but I ca'nt stand Red Monika . Her proportions are just insane , the woman has to wear a 36G bra . and her body is like two oranges connected by a tooth pick . Speaking of Which I think Joe did some work in the Gargoyles comic book . Am I right , anyone ?
Coyote : Read the story and really liked it . Pretty good cliffhanger too .
Anyway later all .
(Brian casts a spell but a misprununciation causes a mistake in the spell and h is dressed as a woman instead of his normal garb .)Well this is humiliating . But it should be enough to disguise me from Bisi , I think I'll try it .(Brian walks out of the room trying to put a feminine swing to his movement . As the door closes a loud *SNAP* is heard .) DAMN , broke a heal .
Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 10:32:40 PM
IP: 208.11.41.208
btw, it's ABOUT TIME Station 8 got back up. At least they didn't have as much trouble upgrading their site as gargoyles-fans.org did.....
Bar Tender - [new_bar_tender@geocities.com]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 09:16:26 PM
IP: pppt06-235.ght.iadfw.net
Xander: The Persons for Inter-species Tolerence (PIT) Crew is, of course, a plot element from The Goliath Chronicles, which somehow got transfered to the alternate universe of TGS. (The 3 known universes: Greg Weisman's vision, The Goliath Chronicles, and TGS [Actually, there's a 4th one that visited TGS, but that's another story]). Anyway, the first mention of PIT in TGS is in the 10th episode of TGS, "The Hunted": Gargoyles. John Castaway mentions them, as does MacBeth. Later, in episode 14, "The Hammer and Shield," there is a small group of pro-gargoyle picketers (sadly outnumbered by the anti-gargoyle protesters). While PIT is not mention, one might infer that they organized that group (or that at least a few protesters were in it). The last introductory PIT information I'll point you to is in Episode 16: "The Sorcerer's Apprentice," where Lexington enters the PIT chat room on the IRC. I hope this helps you a little.
Bar Tender - [new_bar_tender@geocities.com]
Garland, TX
Sunday, October 11, 1998 09:14:25 PM
IP: pppt06-235.ght.iadfw.net
Just some final thoughts on Bruce Campbell. I gotta stop talking about him, before people think I'm a stalker or something.
1. Like Coyote said, he's not related to J. Scott Campbell, the comic book artist. But have you checked out that guy's work on Danger Girl? It's sweeeeeet! No one can draw a woman's....smile...like he can ;)
2. There is an alternate ending to Army of Darkness. Ash takes the potion to make him go back to his time, but in this ending, it's a sleeping potion. He takes to much, and wakes up a hundred years in the future (past his own time), where a nuclear apocalypse has killed off everyone else but him. The studio told Raimi to change the ending, cause it was too depressing. Go figure, huh? I think the Japanese and bootleg copies of A of D has this ending.
3. Coyote: You got to meet him? And your professor actually taught him? That's too cool. I'm a big fan of his. By the way, great new edition to G: CM, as always.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 11:10:23 AM
IP: 207-172-53-97.s97.tnt4.brd.erols.com
Ordell gets the cyber cookie of her choice. I uncertain of the date, but I believe The Day The Earth Stood Still was made in 1951 or there abouts.
One of my favorites. I can remember watching on tv when I was six or seven. All the fifties cliches.
Giant robot, alien master, flying saucer, death threats to the world, heroine with a kid and no dad, army acting typical (blow it up.) Yup love that movie. Forbidden Planet is another favorite.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 06:42:05 AM
IP: proxy-341.public.rwc.webtv.net
TRAVELLER - Very good questions. To provide some sort of answer to them:
1. We (the TGS staff) also wondered about why the federal government was taking so little an interest in the gargoyles. Among the answers that we considered were: the usual distractions caused by Bill Clinton's peccadillos, subtle pressure from the Illuminati, crippling government bureaucracy, and a demand from the local authorities of Manhattan that they were trying to handle this themselves and please let them do so.
2. As for the Rising, the Unseelie Ride's only just started. Nobody (as far as TGS released stories go) has even seen it happen yet, so how can we deal with any response to it?
3. Did we ever say that the Illuminati *don't* know about the Third Race?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, October 11, 1998 06:32:47 AM
IP: pn8-ppp-129.primary.net
*The sound of static from a TV fills a corner of the CR. Everyone looks over to see the little girl from the Poltergeist movies sitting facing the TV. Slowly only her head does a 180' and says in an erie, resonating voice: "He's herreee...". The television screen suddentaly goes black and implodes, instantaly sucking itself and the little girl into the dark energy vortex of oblivion. The vortex then grows, stops and a cloaked figure emerges. It's Traveler.*
I'm BACK! AH!AH!AH! After several days without making a post, I'm back! And it feels good. It's time for a rant!
All right, first off I must profess that I also am a fan of the "Evil Dead, and Army of Darkness" movies starring the often underated actor Bruce Campbell. I laugh my a** off every time I watch them.
>ORDELL- What's this about an alternate ending for "Army of Darkness"?
Next concerning TGS: "The Rising" was a wonderfuly done premiere episode for the series. It answered many questions that were left hanging in our minds 5 MONTHS AGO!!!!! Um...sorry about that, still a little worked up from waiting that long. (Thank God it's over, finaly over, all over, roll over rover.)
Anyway there are a few questions I'd like to pose before the assembled CR dwellers about the TGS universe so far. For one, before The Rising occured, I find it odd that none of the many branches of the federal government (weather it be law enforcement, military, or health) came to Manhattan and started ripping it up until they found and captured the gargoyles. Or at least tried to. I mean even with the pull the Illuminati has with the world in general, we have a new (according to public knowledge) species running around New York City witch may or may not be sentient. In addition because of this new species, a militia group was formed which was packing some pretty damn heavy weaponry, including helicopters, and was running aroung the city like the bunch of lunitics they were shooting up and smashing whatever they liked. (Not to mention all the other generaly weird stuff that started to happen after the time the Clan was awakened.) AND THE FBI, ATF, NSA, CDC, DOD, JUST TO NAME A FEW, TURNED A BLIND EYE TO ALL OF THIS???!!! And let the city police department handle it?! The only interest we ever saw the feds have in the Clan was during the "Things Fall Apart" series. And they were only looking for the gargs as a side endevour to gathering evidence for the "Phoenix Rising" case.
Now with the Unseelie Rising literlly riding a quai-medival death horde (quai-medival death horde, I like the sound of that!) through Times Square I think the Illuminati just might have a little trouble covering up and dealing with that like they usually do with problems. I mean, what exactily in the eyes of the public is the federal government going to do about (as imposible as it sounds) a horde of magical beings that a few millinimum ago were considered literal gods, seizing manhattan?
And why didn't the all knowing grand pooba of secret societies, the Illuminati, know about this? They must have had some idea of what was going on. They control the world, you'd think they would keep an eye out for somebody else trying the same thing, let alone Oberon's mentaly unbalenced twin! *forgets what CR he's in for a second* (Not that there's anything wrong with being mentaly unbalenced >:)
Now to be fair, in the Pendragon eps. the writers kind of alluded to something big happening and the Illuminati knowing something about it, but if they were prepared it will be interesting to see how. Unfotunely the only way this will be answered is when the next few TGS/Pendragon stories come out. Which means more waiting *sigh* and the insanity that come with it *YEA!*.
A side note: Dragons vs. Sidhe in a major war? Imprisoned Dragon King? 11,000 years ago? I swear if the staff does not fill this out in the rest of the season or do anything else with this part of the story arc there WILL BE HELL TO PAY. You do not mention things like this which you know full well will put our (the fans) creativity demons and imaginations into overdrive with the possibilities for this on top of all the others you (the staff, in their genius) have given us.
>FIRESTORM- I'm speaking for my self but: >I brainstormed the "Great Lakes Clan(S)". 500-1000 gargoyles in the tri-state area (And some of Canada!)< when I read this I acheived a state of mental perfection for one moment when all I had in my screwed up mind was one single, all encompasing thought: Cannon Fodder! Yea!
>Coyote the Bando- I just read your latest, and all I have to say is this: All right! Even more plot advancement! Does he ever stop! No! Like the Energizer Bunny (tm)on speed his series just keeps getting more and more interesting! *starts to concentrate on what Roseanna will look like with a T-100 skull for halve a face. hmmm...interesting*
>WEB SITE STAFF- When will the archive be back up? Any ideas at all on when are better than none, and would be greatly welcomed.
*looks up.* Wow, that's quite long. (For me anyway.) *shakes his head* I need sleep. Bye, Bye. *Re-opens the dark energy vortex he came in through, waves, and steps through. Suddently there is a loud cry of outrage followed by the phrase "NOT IN MY DIMENTION!!! NOT NOW OR EVER SHALL THAT THING ENTER THIS DOMAIN!!!" and the Poltergeist girl is hurled out the portal along with the the television which is tuned to the accursed "Barney and Friends". The portal quickly seals itself but not before Traveler douses them both in napalm, flicks a lit match at them, and yells "Don't wory she's a clone! The real actress is probaly in her early 30's by now! Oh, and duck!" *The portal closes and the clone and the TV go up in flames.*
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 02:54:52 AM
IP: 166-24-147.ipt.aol.com
Hey there, I loved the Rising part one, but I went back to read some other stuff and relized, I have no idea where PIT came from, and where it started. Musta missed that episode or something. Can anyone point me to the first Gargoyles with PIT mentioned or the best one that describes them? Thanx a ton.
Xander
Sunday, October 11, 1998 02:28:14 AM
IP: 207.152.160.35
{Someone leaves an open book on the table. The pages are blank except for the following.}
Klaatu and Barada were two aliens that appeared in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi under the employment of Jabba the Hutt. Barada was a Klatooinian and Klaatu was a Nikto. Both were killed in the battle at the Great Pit of Carkoon. I have no idea what gort is.
You know, I have no idea what I am talking about.
Lurker
California
Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:50:07 AM
IP: lax-ts1-h1-40-186.ispmodems.net
Coyote: Well, last night I was thinking. I brainstormed the "Great Lakes Clan(S)". 500-1000 gargoyles in the tri-state area (And some of Canada!)
But thanks, though.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:14:24 AM
IP: dhcp171.visitus.net
**Coyote sticks his head in the door quickly to add:**
One last thing about "Army of Darkness": I took a film class at MSU with a professor who is an extra in the beginning of AOD. If you look at the scene by the pit, there's a particular white-bearded gaunt looking monk. That is MSU Film Professor William Vincent. (He gets a lot of non-speaking walk ons in Sam Raimi's films because he taught Raimi, Rob Tapert and Bruce Campbell at MSU.)
**Coyote leaves.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 10, 1998 11:46:43 PM
IP: 207.91.254.38
**Coyote enters the room slightly disheveled from his high school reunion.**
I just need to jump in with this one, as long as we're on the topic of Bruce Campbell.
1> Bruce Campbell is of *no* relation to J. Scott Campbell, the *Gen13* artist. Bruce was born in Michigan; J. Scott was born in California.
2> I have personally met Bruce Campbell and listened to him speak on the topic of independent filmmaking. He came to Michigan State on a promotional tour for an indie film he had exec. produced entitled "The Fear of a Minute." They were touring it at college campuses to try to raise awareness of the film, in addition to trying to raise money to complete the film. And I got his autograph (a messy little scribble) on a white portfolio. And my girlfriend (at the time) had her picture taken with him. I can even transcript my conversation with him:
Coyote> "I have to say this ... you make a lovely Amazon" (referring to recently-broadcast Xena episode "The Quest.")
Bruce Campbell> (screwy "I-don't-believe-you-just-said-that look) "Ha ha, next time *you* wear the dress."
Thank you. Must go. Sleep summons me.
**Coyote straggles out of the room.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 10, 1998 11:42:00 PM
IP: 207.91.254.38
Sevarius, Jr.> You belong to the Bruce campbell fanclub. May I ask you a question: Does he have any brothers, maybe a Scott J. Campbell? I ask b/c I think he's a favorite of the Gen 13 girls. Is there any connection to the artist Scott J. Campbell and Bruce Campbell. Thanks...
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 11:26:14 PM
IP: mgm106.1.zebra.net
Starsinger> The Day the Earth Stood Still isn't THAT old of a movie, well, I take that back. I myself wasn't even around when that came out, but I've seen it, too many times. Even movies from the 1950's are good, even if they do have robots in them.
Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 10:10:03 PM
IP: 171-53-248.ipt.aol.com
Anyone else remember where ((Klaatu Barada Nicto Gort>> came from?
Yes I am showing my age.
Starsinger
Theresaj - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 09:49:33 PM
IP: proxy-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net
Cool, another Evil Dead/Bruce Campbell fan. Very rare, or so I've found. I always thought that he would be good to voice Fang, but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Sam Raimi is a god, and he has a thing about mirrors. Take your pick of quotes:
"It's a trick, get an axe."
"You ain't leading but two things right now: Jack and shit. And Jack just left town."
"Yo, she-bitch. Let's go."
"Gimme some sugar, baby."
"Groovy."
"Klaatu borada n......Necktie....Nickel...it's an "N" word, it's definitely an "N" word. Klaatu borada ni *chough*. There, I said the words, I'll just be taking the book now."
"Good.....Bad.....I'm the guy with the gun."
"Name's Ash *cocks shotgun* Housewares."
"Hail to the king, baby."
Okay, enough raking of my mind. I need to go get the DVD of that movie, word has it an alternate ending is on there. Man, I need something better to do.
Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 09:23:36 PM
IP: 171-37-159.ipt.aol.com
Ok Wilek, who told you how many furfoots I have???
Jr. Bruce Campbell as Autolycus also dresses so wonderfully in purple and green. I love his wardrobe colors.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 09:12:36 PM
IP: proxy-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net
Am I familiar with Bruce Campbell? I'm a member of his freakin' fan club! He's a vastly underrated actor, from his work on the Evil Dead films (which I can quote verbatim), to the great-and-unfortunately-short-lived series The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., to his recent work on Hercules/Xena. The best thing about him--he's supernice. He's not conceited or arrogan, he's down to earth. You can actually write him and, get this: HE WRITES YOU BACK. It may only be a sentence or two, but how many stars can you name who actually spend the time of day to answer fan mail? Not many nowadays. Click on my name to go to his web page.
Sorry for the rambling, but I'm something of a fan.
About Callisto: I think I read somewhere that the actress who plays her is gonna do motion pictures now. Oh well, she still looks good in leather!
I'll leave you with this quote from my fave Bruce film, ARMY OF DARKNESS:
"Now this....(holds up shotgun, points it at the medieval peasants) Is my BOOMSTICK! It's a twelve gauge, double-barreled Remington pump. S-Mart's top of the line. It's got a cobalt blue steel stock, and a walnut finish. It retails for about $109.95. You can find this baby in the sporting goods department of your local S-Mart store. That's right, shop smart--shop...S-Mart. YOU GOT THAT!!!! Now I swear, the next one of you primates, so much as touches me..."
God I love that film!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 08:38:56 PM
IP: 207-172-117-71.s71.tnt12.brd.erols.com
TGS-None of THE RISING Pictures work.
Interesting start-off. But what's with all the dragon bashing? I rather suggest you don't continue along that line or there is going to be a huge casualty list from the writers! Dragons are protectors, sheesh!
Paul
"Dragons are useless. They should all be slain."-Thanquol
"WHAT!!?? All right, that's it! You're going DOWN!!"-David Lundquist
IRC Meeting
Paul Allen Nathans - [Grnother@worldnet.att.net]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 06:18:27 PM
IP: 162.morristown-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
**If you haven't read Coyote's new fic yet, you might not wanna read this, it's pretty much all spoilers**
Coyote> AARGH!!! How can you just leave us all hanging? What's gonna happen to Rosanna? And Ariana's hatchling? And how is Slash gonna take this? Man, I can't wait until WCC so me & Alex can help kick some Rokkan booty! It really was another great story in the Clan Manhattan saga! Good job!
**Ravyn leaves with Alex Wonder to go get ready for her Homecoming dance tonight...**
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Saturday, October 10, 1998 04:46:58 PM
IP: svm-ts3-9.c2i2.com
**Coyote enters the room half-dressed in his suit.**
Just a quickie to let you guys know that I've just posted Volume #19 of G:CM. Click my name-link to enter "The Bowels."
Oh, BTW, any fans of the Labyrinth mutants in this room probably should not read this story (it concerns the final fate of the Labyrinth in G:CM.)
**Coyote jogs out of the room. On to his reunion!!**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 10, 1998 04:35:16 PM
IP: 207.91.254.74
Forgot the picture.
Paul
Already Gave Quote
Same As Before - [Same As Before]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 04:34:14 PM
IP: 138.morristown-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
The picture of Nicholes-ahem!-Madoc Morfynn and Queen Mab-oopsie!-I mean, Queen Meave, is nonfunctional.
Paul
"He's history! Play with fire and you get burned!"
-Janus/Magus
CHRONO TRIGGER
Paul Allen Nathans - [Grnother@worldnet.att.net]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 04:33:07 PM
IP: 138.morristown-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
Coyote> Thanks for the well wishes! I'm sorry that your last Homecoming wasn't so great. Hope you have fun at your reunion, though! :)
Wilek> That was great! That was the image I had in my head when I was reading The Rising. Madoc just prancing around and the others following him...great job, Wilek!
Arianna> Nice seein' you around these parts!
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Saturday, October 10, 1998 03:28:26 PM
IP: svm-ts3-9.c2i2.com
Todd: Yeah, I see that… but Garlon's such a polished, rounded, curious villain that it's hard to imagine any aspect of him linked to TGC. I'll be curious to learn more about him this season…
Doug: Well, yeah. I loved it so much because I believed it. I thought Mavis was the enemy, and Maddox was a good guy, albeit with some sort of mysterious past or something or other. That's why I couldn't take my eyes off the Maddox plotline and the Lex stories became fascinating. The trio down to two Lion King part was one point that I just got such a buzz from reading… just like at the "2 clans" speech in REAWAKENING, the battle throughout AVALON PART THREE, the clone/clan standoff in THE RECKONING and about 4 points in CITY OF STONE. In TGS there was also a point in CONSEQUENCES, and one in SOMETHING WICKED and the end to REPRISALS PART TWO. All those parts (and a couple of others which I'm forgetting- HUNTERS MOON is jam packed with them) where I just feel such a rush of excitement watching/reading. And as it all came to a conclusion, it was so wonderfully done. The best is the showdown at the end of part 2. I laughed at the Maddox/Xanatos exchange, but as a whole scene, that section where Lex realises the truth can't be beaten. I also love George's sickening "does it hurt?" line.
Patrick: Thanks! (and I don't mind that it's a plug… I'm curious!!)
Wilek: *laughs* Nice one! I can just imagine Madoc prancing around there. And also imagine Oberon with Titania singing "I can't wait to be king" with the faeries as the animals, and Madoc in the background pulling faces. :)
AotN: I agree with the character inconsistencies, although I think Asrail is allowed to lose her temper from time to time… Don't see anything wrong with that! :)
I was looking around the art galleries and there's some lovely stuff in there! I loved the Pendragon stuff! Also, THE RISING was well illustrated. Hope to see more of it in future. :)
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 02:21:54 PM
IP: webcache4.planet.net.uk
**Coyote enters the room eating a slice of French bread and accompanied by a clone walking on his hands paying the kazoo.**
Hi, folks. Allow me to introduce Coyote the Even-More-Bizarre-Than-Coyote-Is-In-Real-Life. Now say goodbye, Coyote.
**Coyote kicks the kazoo into Coyote the EMBTCIIRL's throat. Coyote the EMBTCIIRL gags, chokes, and dies.**
Trust me, guys, this is a mercy killing. 17 down, 9 to go.
Sevarius Jr., Static-Pulse: Well, I know at least that Callisto is dead, which would probably preclude Hudson Leick from returning to the show. And when I say dead, I mean honest-to-God-I-ain't-coming-'round-here-no-more dead (for those who missed it: at the end of the season-ender last year, Xena stabbed Callisto with a knife coated in hind's blood, the only substance that can kill a god.) Sorry, boys. And believe me, I liked Cal, too. (Hudson's the one I got my pic taken with, I'd better like Callisto! If I can remember the URL, sometime I'll show you the pic.)
Ravyn: Have a good time at your Homecoming dance. Hope you have a better time than I did at the last Homecoming I went to (long story short: my date met her boyfriend at the dance, I only got one dance with her, we left after an hour and I wound up coming home in a Plymouth Sundance covered in toilet paper. Not fun.)
Must run. Have stuff to write before I leave tonight (my 5-year reunion is tonight.).
**Coyote shoves the last of the bread in his mouth and drags the dead clone out of the room.**
Coyote the Bando and Coyote the Even-More-Strange-Than-Coyote-Is-In-Real-Life - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 10, 1998 01:49:32 PM
IP: 207.91.254.50
Servarius Jr.> I trust that you know what Bruce Campbell is most famous for. THe Evil Dead Trilogy, but he has done other good stuff too, such as Autolycus, although I inly saw one episode with him in it, and I have no clue if there were more than one......later people
"Groovy"
Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 01:49:10 PM
IP: 206-88-122.ipt.aol.com
*flies in the CR and lands with a CLANK*
Uh-oh... is this bad? I agree with Sevarius, Jr. Callysto rules! She needs her own show... However, I heard she may not come back, since the real lady -- actress behind the character -- wants to go do other stuff... I dunno if Xena will be the same w/out her.
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 10, 1998 01:26:53 PM
IP: mgm163.1.zebra.net
*Arianna flies in, in falcon form. She morphs into normal Fey form.*
Hello, all.
For those of you who have no idea who I am: I'm Arianna, and I usually confine my insanity to the S8 CR, but today, I'm here too.
THE RISING:
AWESOME!!! I love it. The whole premise is just so perfect...And, of course, Loki's in it. Madoc is SOOO evil, as is Maeve, and the Unseelies are great villains. Especially, of course, Loki, who is almost (note I said almost) cooler than Puck. But not quite. Definitely a great season premier...definitely the best one of the year.
Too bad about Timedancer not premiering until January 99. That's worse than the X-Files. However, it will give me more time to catch up on the other series (especially Pendragon) from last year.
Starsinger> COOL POWERS! (PS. I had no idea you were half alien. That's awesome.)
Well, gotta run. See ya' later, TGS room dwellers.
*Arianna dematerializes.*
Arianna
Saturday, October 10, 1998 01:19:44 PM
IP: hd2-217.hil.compuserve.com
Okay, I read all three parts of "Prince of Thieves" from DARK AGES today for the first time, and, in my opinion, there a few things that need to be brought up in regards to the next season:
1. Please, writers, make up your minds about your characters' personalities! One minute Demona and Diomedes are shy and sweet teenagers ("Destiny" and "Seduction", Demona is shy and clumsy), and the next minute they're proud, snotty and overconfident ("Prince of Thieves", both made bad comments about Asrial at nearly every available moment!!). This is extremely disturbing as a reader (and as a novice writer!). Also, Asrial is usually portrayed as shy and slow to temper, but in "The Fox Came Back", she loses her cool several times, and to Goliath!
2. I love how you writers get into the thoughts of your characters, but there is one you have been overlooking, so to speak. This person is Goliath. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this point, and your saving his character for some dramatic part in the coming season? :) ). Anyway, I hope you have more about Goliath's thoughts in the future.
Thanx for listening to that, and I'd think it was really cool if you took some of this to heart. Btw, to Tas "Vince" Burrfoot (nice name :P), though I was disappointed with your portayal of Asrial in "The Fox Came Back", I was rotfl over the anticts of Reynard the Fox!! :)
AotN
Saturday, October 10, 1998 12:52:59 AM
IP: dialup-103-19.sssnet.com
I don't know about you Coyote, but I can't get enough of Callisto. Mmmmm....now there's a goddess (literally). Get rid of Xena, just give me an hour of Callisto every week...
Oh, and being an Autolycus fan, let me just say, BRUCE CAMPBELL IS GOD.
Sevarius Jr.
Saturday, October 10, 1998 12:47:43 AM
IP: 207-172-45-15.s15.tnt5.brd.erols.com
Heheh, amusing Lion King take off, Wilek ;)
Entity
Saturday, October 10, 1998 12:00:27 AM
IP: ely-oh5-47.ix.netcom.com
**Coyote drives into the room in Lexington, smiling.**
Another day, another dollar ...
Wilek: Interesting that you should mention Dahak ... I also happen to be a Xena fan, and there has been a running plotline through both *Xena* and *Hercules* (non-Disney) dealing with Dahak threatening the Greek gods with his servants (thus far: Callisto, Hope (Gabrielle's daughter) and Alte). Since you mentioned him, thought I'd just toss that one in ...
Fleur: Hmmm ... no I don't think I'll be using the Dark Ages char's, because of something I think I mentioned in the other room (I'm using TGS continuity, which would also include the DA characters), and it runs into that little rule about same characters in the universe ...
(actually that's a lame excuse ... the real reason is because I haven't read many DA eps and have absolutely no grasp on the characters.)
Fire Storm: Use Clan Detroit? Sure, go ahead. My name link goes to the character profiles for the members of the Clan (Mustang, Dodge, Pontiac and Buick), if you want to use them in the present day there's only a couple of revisions you need:
1) Lexington (the gargoyle, not my car) is with them, but would still be recuperating from his long journey from New York ... come to think of it you might not need to use Pontiac since she would be spending so much time with Lex. ;)
2) Cadillac would not be born yet (Her egg won't be laid until September of next year).
Any more info you need, let me know. And please, put it up on the Web and send me a URL so I can link it to G:CM. (for that matter, I'd like to read it since knowing you you'll have something in it about Hyena making cacciatore out of Geoffrey "King of the Idiots" Fieger.)
Obsessions: Saving up to go to Dallas ... coming to these rooms ... that's about it right now.
BTW, Fleur and Static-Pulse: Thanx for your char. descriptions. You'll be going on the list with the next update tomorrow (hopefully).
Must go, much to write.
**Coyote drives the car out of the room. Plastered to his rear bumper is a sticker that reads "I'll Crawl to Dallas If Fieger Gets Elected!"**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 9, 1998 11:57:51 PM
IP: 207.91.254.44
[The screen comes on, showing that Wilek and etc are in the clone fortress. It's night and Seri has awoken.]
Theresa> Very kewl powers.
Weird mental image that's been scraping at the inside of my skull since the whole Madoc/Scar discussion started>
Maeve: Be prepared! Yeah, we'll be prepared. For what?
Madoc: For the death of the king!
Garlon: What, is he sick?
Madoc: No, fool, we're going to kill him! And Merlin too...
Garlon: Great idea! Who needs a king?
Maeve, Garlon, and Loki (singing): No king! No king! La la la la la la!
Madoc: Idiots! There *will* be a king!
Garlon: But you just said...
Madoc: I will be king! Stick with me and you'll never go hungry again!
Maeve, Garlon, and Loki: Yeah! Alright! Long live the king! Long live the king! Long live the king!
Thousands of Unseelie singing> It's great that we'll soon be connected/With a king who'll be all time adored...
I typed that from memory. Help me. :)
Umbriel> If I'm not mistaken, isn't that the name of one of the seven archangels as identified in The Book Of Mormon?
BTW, I recently learned of a mythological something-or-other named Dahak. I think he's the Muslim epitome of all evil. You just *know* he's an Unseelie.
Well, we have a battle to fight. [Wilek and the fire team round a corner...and encounter five Barney gargoyles.] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! [In the CR, Auntie Theresa casts a magic spell, and sixteen spectral cats fly into the chamber and reduce the Barney-goyles to a thick purple gel.] Thanks Theresa. [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Friday, October 9, 1998 09:22:03 PM
IP: tnt-1-220-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
I can't beleive that we all have to wait until January! Until the new season of Timedancer begins. Also we don't know when the new season of the Dark ages will begin. At least, we will be able to read the Gargoyles and the Pendragon series!
Lawrence Stone - [st1@bright.net]
Chillicothe, Ohio, Ross
Friday, October 9, 1998 08:41:37 PM
IP: cacheflow.bright.net
ED > Re: Umbriel - try looking in "Prophets and Angels," too.
This has been another shameless plug for a story I wrote... :P
Patrick Toman
Friday, October 9, 1998 07:21:18 PM
IP: 166-24-74.ipt.aol.com
Hi, all!
Theresa> Wow, you sure do understand time zones much better than the rest of us! It's pretty cool in Arizona not having to remember to change the clocks for Daylight Savings time, but it is kinda annoying to turn on the TV and have all the shows starting one hour off from the usual time because the rest of America has changed except for us. Oh, well. Sorry if I confused anyone!
Obsessions> Gargoyles (of course!), pro wrestling, my computer (nerds rule!), and this guy that I'm going to Homecoming with tomorrow...;)
Have a wonderful day! :)
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Friday, October 9, 1998 06:37:44 PM
IP: svm-ts4-19.c2i2.com
Wilek>> In addition to being half alien, the powers that go with it are real mixed up. One of my gifts is empathy, full healing. Another is long range gate teleporting and finally, and I don't use this ability lightly, is temporal teleportinf. I have to know not only where I'm going, but when. Excellant sense of direction. :p
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, October 9, 1998 06:30:37 PM
IP: proxy-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net
ED: That was my favorite part of "Reprisals," too. I was laughing my head off. I also liked the doubt about Maddox's motives and evilness in Season 1 and how at the season's end it was so icingly confirmed. I liked it so much I'm even kinda copying it in my own fanfic saga with a certain villain who has the same initials. His character's been developed some already and still is, but his true motives and plans are still unknown. One thing's for sure, though, him and Thailog are going to get along very well together. <grin>
Okay, this is my last post before I leave for the weekend. Later.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, October 9, 1998 06:28:33 PM
IP: hd56-089.hil.compuserve.com
ED - Well, the "Generations" guy was just the piece of sand buried at the center of the pearl for Garlon. All that we took from him was the basic concept of a sneaky character who could turn invisible. I gave him the name and the idea of being Madoc's servant. Kathy Pogge came up with some character quirks for him, including his dislike of being nicknamed "Mouse". After that, Garlon was a character in his own right.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, October 9, 1998 06:26:31 PM
IP: pn6-ppp-06.primary.net
Just been reading through REPRISALS again. Nice stuff. My fave bit is…
***REPRISALS SPOILERS***
"I never expected our first meeting to turn out like this," David Xanatos called, hovering on the jets of his battlesuit. "I had more of a board-room setting in mind."
"You've destroyed my board room," Maddox replied icily.
"Bill me."
And some nice stuff with Mavis. The final bit with Lex was lovely. Of course the best was the ending to part 2 :) I'll be very surprised if you can top that this season, all of the crew reading! Mind you…
Anyway, nice stuff… :)
***END OF REPRISALS SPOILERS***
I'd better go and try and rebuild my lost bookmarks. At least my computer is fixed far sooner than I could have hoped for. But I've lost most of my stuff… *grumbles*
Anyway, I've got more time to reply now, so…
Doug: Nice little analysis. And neat Loki history too…
Todd: Interesting little revelations. I like the Scar parallel! It's so delightful to imagine Loki and the unseelie in the place of the Hyenas while Madoc, where Scar is, leaps about with his "Be Prepared" song. I always loved that. :) And I still find it hard to connect Garlon with that GENERATIONS guy… :|
Dark Ages & Timedancer: Umm… a couple of questions (though I'm sure the staff are all sick of them by now):
(1) If the series are beginning later, will they end later?
(2) And if Pendragon and Gargoyles share stories, shouldn't they have more than the latter two considering that's the main plot, and the rest are just spin-offs. If I'm working it out correctly, TD will get 5 months of stuff if it ends in may, while P&G will get 8 between them, making about 4 eps for each. That's less for the main series than the spin-offs. (Of course my fave series happen to be Gargs and Pendragon, but even so… :))
Besides, I don't mind the DA delay, since I still haven't finished reading season 1 :\
Patrick: Well, Garlon I know from Matt's task force (I think… he was the mouse guy, wasn't he?), Loki is Leifson, yes? And Umbriel… well, a short bit in REPRISALS PART THREE… is there anything to add to any of that? Any eps you'd like to direct me to? :)
Green Baron: Yeah, more evil is a good summary… although I love the Rising, I do wonder if that might sort of be a stumbling block for the second season. The doubt of what Maddox was up to, and later the intrigue as to what it was… it was all part of what made season 1 so great. I loved the feeling of "being in the dark" (I also hated it at the same time, but I hate all the best cliffhangers because I love them so much). Maddox was believable, and I certainly was sucked in, as many of you probably know from S8. So I feel very attached to that Lex & Madoc story. But I think TGS does need another shade this season. But I guess with all that's ahead it's pretty daft to imagine that the staff haven't thought of that already :)
DumlaoX: Oh, stop being so sickeningly mysterious! Well, I suppose it's your duty as a TGSer, but it's so annoying!! More so than with Greg because I can just picture you and the rest of the TGS staff sitting back and chuckling to themselves as they type in their cryptic responses. :)
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Friday, October 9, 1998 05:43:21 PM
IP: webcache1.planet.net.uk
[The screen comes on. Wilek, Miriam, Wavers, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, and Mandi are hiding in a cargo bay, waiting for sunset so Seri can awaken from stone sleep. No one's sure where the dog is.] Bringing that psycho dog to help was the best thing that's happened to this mission. He's already killed most of the closet horrors. (I think this is the longest continuous Blaisism anyone has ever done. I think it started sometime last week and there's no end in sight. Not that I mind. ^_^)
It looks like a lot of people here are going to be offline for the weekend. Including me, I'm afraid; I'm having my computer repaired tomorrow and I probably won't get it back till Monday. :(
Brian> Actually, I'm not allowed to say much about the future because it might pollute the timeline. I'll say this much: Stay away from a black-robed dude in a ceramic mask. Please trust me on this.
Obsessions> Fonts, MID, WAV, MP3, and image files. Computer geek and proud of it! :)
Fleur> Thanks. And Barney does that to me too. There's a DOOM image converter thing that converts all the pink minotaur guys into Barneys and all the red floating heads into Clinton's head. Kewl. Your local gas plant blew up? Yikes. That's why I use electric heating.
Theresa> How the bleep do you keep all that time snot in your head?! I have enough trouble remembering when to change the clock for Daylight Savings Time! Must be the alien heritage. It would be so kewl to be a half alien.
Has anyone noticed that there have been at least 3 Blaisisms in here that have destroyed the known universe? The Vorlons accidentally imploded the universe while fighting the Unseelie. Then someone understood what the universe is and what it's for, and it immediately changed into something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then the universe simply exploded and everyone died. This is a dangerous place.
Well, must sign off, all. Till the setting of the sun...[To be continued.]
Wilek Nereus
Friday, October 9, 1998 04:20:01 PM
IP: tnt-2-200-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
COLDTRIO & OTHER MISSING CHARACTERS-- All I can say about this is patience reaps great rewards. In TGS, you never know who's gonna show up next.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Friday, October 9, 1998 01:28:53 PM
IP: clsc-pc-35.clicc.ucla.edu
I have been meaning to ask anyone who is on the TGS staff - What happened to Thailog and the Coldtrio? I like what's being written now with the Unseelie, but what happened to these four characters? Will we ever get to see them again?
I bring this up because I was watching 'Possession' last night, and it struck me that Coldsteel would become the perfect replacement for Demona as an enemy of Brooklyn. Since in TGS Demona is more or less at peace with the clan, and Brooklyn doesn't really hate her anymore after his Timedancing, he would still need a good villian to hate. And Coldsteel would fill in that spot perfectly.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, October 9, 1998 12:27:14 PM
IP: 22.new-york-02.ny.dial-access.att.net
<Kyryn steps into the room smiling>
Finally got a full night's sleep.
Fleur> TTFN should be from Disney's Winnie-the-Pooh. Specifically, it is one of Tigger's favorite sayings. Tigger is a favorite of mine. Also, it is not in the original Pooh books by A.A. Milne. I was just re-reading them. Oatmeal raisin for the cybercookie, please.
Brian> I started to wonder at the beginning of your post: Who is this person and what have they done with the REAL Brian? I once had entirely too much fun at a weapons range with several types of handguns and a cardboard cutout of Barney. People were begging me to be allowed to shoot at the target.
Theresa> Texas is never correct? I suppose you're right. I've lived here eight years and still get confused about the time differences occasionally.
Well, I'm off to join the others who are going to be offline for the weekend. It's off to Dallas again, and more creative insanity in planning a wedding. Actually the travel time is good, it gives me time to work on fic ideas.
I'm looking forward to Monday, when I get to read Rising Pt.2!
<Kyryn waves at everyone and starts to walk out the door. Suddenly, she starts running as she hears the sound of an engine revving.
"No Buick! Not the Saturn! I need it to get to Dallas!">
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Friday, October 9, 1998 10:22:16 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Raist and Tas are my faves, but I like Tanis and Laurana, too. Anyway...
AotN
Friday, October 9, 1998 10:11:11 AM
IP: dialup-103-26.sssnet.com
Brian: Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback. I like to put plot development in all my stories, all the plot development is one of the best things about Gargoyles. Every story always helps lead up to several more. It's fun doing that. And no, it doesn't bug me one bit to write those lengthy disclaimers.
In other news, I will be gone for the weekend. Going back home later today, be back Sunday. See you guys then!
Doug
Friday, October 9, 1998 07:14:03 AM
IP: hd45-243.hil.compuserve.com
A lot of you live in different timezones and miss things because of it. The most simple way to keep track of time is this.
The room is on EASTERN time. When I look at a posted time I am TWO hours off. I am on MOUNTAIN time. If you are on PACIFIC time you are THREE hours off. CENTRAL time is ONE hour off. We change timezones at both the east and west borders in NM during the summer. Texas is never correct and Arizona is never on daylight time, so they are off six plus months a year.
I caught Christine because I checked her post time, knew she was on Pacific time and I was on Mountain time. Only four time zones in the states. If were being picky I belive Hawaii is four hours further than Pacific and Australia is tomarrow (16 hours I believe) and England is last night (8 hours from Eastern I believ).
Everything you didn't need to know about time.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, October 9, 1998 07:05:44 AM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net
*The CR door bursts open and steam fills the room. After a moment it clears to reveal a very clean (and a little prune-y) Fleur.*
You know that old saying about never missing the water till the well runs dry? My version: You never miss hot showers until the gas plant blows up.
Doug: <Sheepish grin> Opps. Um, I was pretty close.
Wilek: You're welcome. TTFN stands for Ta-Ta For Now. (cyber cookie to whoever guesses where I got _that_ saying from.)
Brian: I have always known it, now I am positive: Barney the Dinosour is EVIL! *Shudders at the thought of being hugged by..have to stop, feeling nauseous.
Fire Storm> I can see Roland falling in love with Asrial, but I don't think she will _ever_ feel the same way. The impression I got was that he's already fallen for her and doesn't realise it yet, and she's terrified of him. I haven't read all the DA eps, so I could be wrong, but that;s just my two cents worth. ;)
Good news : the weekend is here at last! Bad news: Won't be back until Monday. (Sob!)
TTFN! (now you know what it means! :))
*More steam billows in as Fleur makes her exit.*
Fleur/Newgoyle - [Newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 9, 1998 03:47:00 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Wilek >> Thanks for that note. I'd wondered about that. A long time ago, when the themes were first offered in the .wav format, I grabbed copies of several of them, but I was hoping to check out the rest when the mp3 started working again. Looks like I'll keep waiting on that. Ah well, at least there's new material to read and cogitate on while I'm waiting.
Philip Jacobs - [nementh@visi.net]
Newport News, VA, USA
Friday, October 9, 1998 03:07:39 AM
IP: ppp16.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net
(Brian walks into the comment room in unusually high spirit , he is strutting , singing "Stay'in Alive" .)
Howdy ho guys , is'nt it a wonderful day . I want to just get a puppy and scwash it in a hug the way this day makes me so happy . Would anyone like something to eat ? An icecream cone ? A nice big comfortable chair . Are'nt we all feeling the love in this room . how bout a group hug .
(Brian approaches everyone in the room with arms outstreched . Suddenly a brick flies through the air and nocks him upside the head causing him to fall to the floor with the skin on his head peeled back from the force of the blow to reveal purple skin beneath . The real Brian walks up from the door , pumps around into the shot gun which he has ulled from one of his portals . He then proceeds to fire round after round into the head of the creature on the floor until the skin is totally peeled way to reveal the head of Barney , all the time he is loudly proclaiming that he killed him already .)
Do'nt ask people its a long story .
Wilek : Have you seen a version of me in the future there . I think I must have gotten ahold of the Gate sometime in the future and am traipsing across time .
Green Baron :Welcome back man it's been awhile .
Doug : Thanks for the story . It was truly captivating . I especially liked the level of plot development involved in it . Hope this does'nt qualify as a spoiler . Does'nt it bother you to have to write a lengthy disclaimer every time you write a fic ?
Can anyone explain to me why two members of the Hunter trio have Scottish accents , whereas Jon has a British one .
Gargoyle Anatomy 101 : Do Gargoyles actually have claws or do there fingers just narrow at the tips and on the undeside into talons ? And how did Rolands claws get so sharp , did he sharpen them ?
Obsessions : Getting a girl friend . The result of being in an all boy's school for 5 years and suddenly having women around again .
(Barney opens his eyes and his wounds heal as he starts moving towards Brian . Brian uses the butt of his shotgun and nocks him down while he opens a portal to a space born nuclear arsenal , (What , I had to do somehing with them .) He throws the recovering Barney through the portal as he sets the timer on all the rockets via a spell for 2 seconds . He hen quickly closes the portal and prays that there will never be a repeat of this embarassing scenario .)
Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net ]
Friday, October 9, 1998 01:24:54 AM
IP: 208.11.41.194
[The screen shows Wilek and co. in the clone fortress.]
Green Baron> The clones...<sigh> Here's the story: SJ's dad made 25 clones of me and 26 of Coyote. So far, all but two of mine and one of Coyote's have been complete psychopaths. 6 of mine and 16 of Coyote's have been killed in some manner. They let the unspeakable evils out of SJ's closet and are trying to take over the world. I've been to a future where they succeed. It's worse than you can imagine. We're here to fight that future. (Hey, something like that would make a kewl opening to a TV show.)
Fleur> Thanks! <thumbs up> Um, what does TTFN mean?
Doug> Thanks for Guod and Asil!
Static-Pulse> Thanks for the voice info.
Theresa> I like your theory on the Manhattan clan's reading/lingual skills. Kind of like the explanation for something similar given in Timedancer "Out Of Joint". BTW, shouldn't parts of "Out of Joint Part 2" come at the END of Timedancer?
Fire Storm> Oh, you're doing a fic about you-know-who, aren't you? Too kewl! Hmmm...Sabledrake...they sound familiar, but I can't quite place the name...
Philip Jacobs> The themes have always had problems--some were missing, some were linked to the wrong files. Perhaps the links are in the process of being fixed (I hope). Good thing I got my Timedancer instrumental MP3 long ago. Hey, wouldn't instrumental versions of the Gargoyles and Dark Ages themes be kewl?
Come on everyone. [Wilek and the gang proceed deeper into the clone fortress...and run into evil clones of Seri, Jake, Teri, Anoth, and Forfexx. Suddenly, Mandi's psychotic mutant tiger-sized dog bounds in and begins ripping into the clones. Mandi comes into the lab; Wilek high-fives her.] YEAH! Thanks for the help! [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Friday, October 9, 1998 12:14:13 AM
IP: tnt-2-22-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Has anyone else checked out the TGS Themes link lately? I can't get the RA server to connect to my browser client, the MP3 files are missing, and the wavs download but are broken when I try to play them.
On the more important front, Great Job with the new episode! I'm looking forward to the next installment on Monday.
Philip Jacobs - [nementh@usa.net]
Newport News, VA, USA
Friday, October 9, 1998 12:00:29 AM
IP: ppp12.ts2-1.norfolk.visi.net
Coyote: In your fan-fic universe, do you have the 'present' day characters? From what I read, most of your stuff is in the future. Just curious if I may be able to borrow one or two of them. Making a fan-fic in Detroit, mainly for Green Baron. :)
Roland: Personaly, I see Asriel possbily forgiving and even getting together with Roland. That, or both dyeing in battle.
Just got a package in the mail from some company named "Sabledrake Enterprises" I wonder what THAT could be!
<Sung to the tune of "I want Stanley">
I got Christine! <G>
My Obsession is by Calvin Klein. <G>
Fire Storm - [Nught-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 11:43:06 PM
IP: dhcp178.visitus.net
AotN: Oh yeah, Dragonlance is excellent. Tas is hilarious, Kit is sexy and oozes evil, Caramon is a great character, so is Tanis. But my favorites were always Raistlin and Soth. I could always understand both of them very well throughout their stories, and they were both so well-charecterized and menacing. :) Dragonlance isn't an obsession for me, really. I have no obessions apart from my fanfic, D&D, Lisa, and exploring the Web. But those are good obessions, I think. Right? Later.
Doug
Thursday, October 8, 1998 11:35:47 PM
IP: hil-dnptt-161.oh.compuserve.net
Just missed Christine by a lousy hour.. dangit...
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 10:54:02 PM
IP: mgm136.1.zebra.net
Doug> Isn't DragonLance great? It's my obsession that's just as bad as Gargoyles...
Everyone> Isn't this picture great?
Sorry, I'm hyper tonight. *grins*
AotN
Thursday, October 8, 1998 10:42:53 PM
IP: akron-157-47.sssnet.com
newgargoyle/Fleur> Even better picture~> Reynard the Fox chasing Roland with giant space gun. *smirks*
TGS> Give me Dark Ages or give me...!
AotN
Thursday, October 8, 1998 10:39:33 PM
IP: akron-157-47.sssnet.com
Just a quick note:
I am tonight's guest in the Talkcity SciFiLit chat room, starting at 6:00 PST (about 1/2 hour from now); click on my name or go to http://www.talkcity.com/chat/ if you'd like to join us!
Also -- new on my site are Ice Queen, a story about Owen's ladyfriend Cordelia, and a pic of Jericho and Demona by Raptor Woman in the Gallery.
Will be away from tomorrow until next Wednesday visiting family and going to my brother's wedding; miss you all and see you when I get back!
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 08:15:12 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
Static Pulse>> Thank you. Mine is the English spelling. There is also a French, a Spanish, an Irish and my relatives who can't spell version.
A lot of people forget that Christmas trees are an 17/18th century invention from Germany. It was period, however, to get a yule log, hang greens and eat. Carols as we know them are not period. All sorts of interesting things crop up when you research medival customs.
Many people have comented on Goliath and clan and their reading ability and language ability for our century. I always assumed that the language and reading skills were a subspell in the main spell. When they awakened their skills were updated automatically.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 08:09:44 PM
IP: proxy-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net
GREEN BARON - Um, it's Madoc, not Maddoc. You're getting thrown by the fact that his human alias is "Maddox", and therefore unwittingly inserting the extra d in his fay name. (Maybe we should have made it "Nicholas Madox, to avoid this confusion, which keeps on popping up among our readers).
Admittedly, there are some anachronisms in the depiction of the humans in the flashbacks, but considering that the original series had stone castles in 10th century Scotland (in the actual tenth century, castles were made out of wood), I think that it's excusable. And, as you'll see in the flashbacks of "The Rising Part Two", this isn't exactly the past of history so much as the past of legend....
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 8, 1998 06:19:32 PM
IP: pn6-ppp-09.primary.net
SEASON 1 EPISODE ARCHIVE-- It was always up and working. I just checked it a few mins ago.
BUGS-- OK, the bug for The Rising pics not being shown is legit. I might have to upload the ep again to see if that works. Same thing with the counter bug. I might have to upload that too.
If you find any bugs whatsoever about this site, please post it here. I'll go check them out and attempt to fix it all.
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 01:20:35 PM
IP: dhcp66.oac-commons.ucla.edu
**An unusual looking man in a green three-piece suit appears in the doorway of the Comment Room. He appears familiar, but he has not been here for a while. It's the Green Baron, who has decided to stop lurking.**
Hello everyone. I'm, back.
Wilek> Clones. What's with all the clones.
TGS> SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!
I just finished the Rising and it was great. I now know a little more about Umbriel and his heritage. He is a halfling and he is reluctant to join the Unseelies. He seems like a reluctant hero type, though his true colors will be shown in upcoming stories. Is he Oberon's illegitamite son?
Maddoc does appear much more evil than last season. He is certainly a good classical villain and an evil Uncle, though he is not evil to his nephew. I was surprised about Maddoc's relationship with Maeve. I thought they were Mother and Son, myself, though I suspected that he was Oberon's brother for some time.
Loki appears to be an evil Puck, since Puck was not that malicious. As for some of the names, I don't recall Sumeria existing 11,000 years ago. If anything, I don't know of any Civilzation existing then, except for some Neolithic or Mesolithic stone age tribes.
END SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Todd> I must get ahold of your sources. I never knew about Brocken. I do have a 70+ year old book title Asgard, Home of the gods, which has some greta information on Norse Mythology.
**Green Baron just dissapears**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Thursday, October 8, 1998 12:32:00 PM
IP: 141.164.72.73
*an unearthy stillness fills the CR. Seconds later an explosion sounds and Static appears from the middle of the room flying toward a wall. Static crashes into the wall and slides down to the ground*
Ugh, I gotta work on my hyperdrive... I could get LOST (Yes, I have been watching the LiS movie alot). Anyway, let me get to answering ppl who have replied...
Merlin Missy: I want to compliment you. Your mind seems to follow a seemingly random links of thoughts as does mine. How did I inspire a cabbie-fey from saying I needed to snub fey? Nice picture, though. I think it would be fun. (Probably as interesting as riding with Natty, from Spike's stories.)
Theresa: First, I like how you spell your name. I spell it the same way when I use it in stories. :-) Thanks for the Gargoyle/Christmas info. I had totally forgotten that they celebrate the winter solstice.
Wilek: Who would do my voice? Hmmm... Matthew Perry from Friends. I dunno if I sound like him IRL, but his voice -- mind you not Chandler's inflections -- would quite adequately portray Static-Pulse's persona.
Well, that should cover it. *Static checks his energy reserves and nods* See you guys later. *Static presses a button and disappears much like he appeared as he is lauched into cyberspace*
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 10:48:10 AM
IP: cb1703.wccs.cc.al.us
The name "Umbriel" also crops up in Alexander Pope's "The Rape of the Lock", a mock-epic written in the early 18th century, where he is the leader of the gnomes - although I believe that we got the name from the moon of Uranus instead, because of its proximity to Oberon and Titania. (More recently, another moon of Uranus was discovered and named "Puck", which ought to delight a lot of people here).
Garlon, incidentally, is partly based (although in a very roundabout sort of way) on the Invisible Assassin in "Generations", although all that we really took from that TGC episode was the notion of a scheming villain who could turn invisible.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 8, 1998 07:17:37 AM
IP: pn8-ppp-153.primary.net
26,400 People or whatever, have crossed these portals before me. The counter stills works. My suggestion, based on the fact I have to reprogram all my shortcut keys, is check your URL and reset. When the room went down all my shortcuts insist that we can't be reached. I have problems with the pictures not downloading also. What I do is check both the text site and the TGS site. I usually can get a picture down load on one of them. Webtv has shortcoming true, but most of the time I do get everything. For example, I can get access to Coyote's zip files, but not UGFEM's. A friend's trying to get me a copy there.
On Mercy Point, Salli was the CO for the sick soldies who came in. She was the one with the lip lock on the doctor.
Highlander the Raven will be on tonight here in Albuquerque. I Think this is the second episode.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 06:47:23 AM
IP: proxy-131.iap.bryant.webtv.net
:: runs in ::
Want to know more about Loki, Garlon, and Umbriel? Go back and read TGS Season One carefully. None of them are new characters... they were all introduced last season.
We will archive the season two eps in chronological order, beginning with "The Rising part 1."
Something worth watching on UPN besides "Voyager"? Hmm... I may have to check that out.
:: runs out ::
Patrick Toman
Thursday, October 8, 1998 06:18:30 AM
IP: 200-196-220.ipt.aol.com
Uh, that last post was to newgoyle. Sorry.
Doug
Thursday, October 8, 1998 02:20:10 AM
IP: hd47-149.hil.compuserve.com
The guy's name was Balder, not Balor. He was the Norse god of male beauty, and a really nice guy. Loki really proved his evil by killing him, in that most famous of Norse myths.
Doug
Thursday, October 8, 1998 02:19:36 AM
IP: hd47-149.hil.compuserve.com
Allison: Loki was a bad god of mischief in Norse mythology. He was the main bad guy, the father of lies, the trickster, you get the idea. In TGS, he is the Unseelies' answer to Puck. Umbriel is the name of a fairy in Celtic legend, I think. I think it's also the name of one of Saturn's moons, along with Titania and Oberon. In TGS, he is Madoc's half-human nephew, who is somewhat beginning to doubt whether the Unseelies' plots to take over the world are the right thing. Garlon was a bad knight in the legends of King Arthur, he was one of the ones with supernatural abilities (most famous of these is the Green Knight, I think). In TGS, he is Madoc's main thug and lieutenant, the Owen to Madoc's Xanatos. He hired mercenaries for Madoc's plots (including George Harrison, the Pack, and Castaway) all throughout the first season and may do more of that in the second. We shall see. For now, that is all I know.
Coyote: Missed you, man! Welcome back!
Wilek: (Fanfic Material Alert!) Thanks for mentioning Darth Vader and the Emperor. I got a lot of my inspiration for Agony and Silvan from those two. :) Lord Soth and Raistlin (Dragonlance), Padan Fain and Asmodeus (Wheel of Time series), Zakath and Cyradi (David Eddings' Mallorean series), Skeletor and Tri-Klops (He-Man cartoons), Max Radl (Jack Higgins' book The Eagle Has Landed), the various historical figures who Agony "was", and many other characters I can't recall right now provided inspiration for them. So good of you to rekindle my memories. <grin> By the way, if you want to use my evil Borg-drone-clone Guod and Kitainia's psychotic evil Hyena-type clone Asil in your clone war, feel free to go right ahead. (End Fanfic Material.)
Okay, that's all for now. Later.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 02:17:21 AM
IP: hd47-149.hil.compuserve.com
*bouncing into the comment room with a big smile.*
Hi everybody! (Don't mind me, I'm just really happy 'cos I'll have a hot shower tonight. There's been a bit of a gas crisis in RL. All those living in Victoria will know what I'm talking about.)
Wilek and Co.: Good luck. May the force be with you.
Allison: I don't know anything about Gorlon and Umbriel (sp?), but Loki is the God of Fire in Norse Mythology. He started out as a trickster, then he got mean. He was responsible for the death of Balor, a really nice god - he tricked the guy's brother into killing him with a dart of mistletoe (long story behind that one), and did a heap of other things. In the end, the gods chained him to a rock with a poisonous snake above it. The Norse believed that earthquakes were caused by him writhing in agony when the snake's venom fell into his eyes. Eventually he escaped and lead the Frost Giants against the Gods during Raganok. IMHO, he's a P****. (But the myths are pretty wild, aren't they?)
Coyote> Will the clan from Dark Ages be in WCC? I know you can't use younger versions of the clan, like Goliath and Demona, but what about the others? (Strange Mental Image that just buzzed into my head - Roland running, screaming, down the street, pursued by Asrial, who has discovered the wonders of modern technology and whipped up a space ship equipped with weapons the size of Mr Carter. <g>)
The new TD season doesn't begin until January? Bummer. Wonder who'll do the countdown for that? *Todd starts grinning manically as he realises he has a new way of torturing the CR people.* Opps. Me and my big mouth. :)
Calvin and Hobbes were legends. I never did the running- across-the-lawn-butt-naked thing, but I bet my parents felt a lot like his did sometimes. There was a boy down the street from me, and man, we were the living, breathing version of Calvin and Hobbes (He was Hobbes), and the terrors of the neighbourhood. Small animals bolted when they saw us coming. Old people retreated for the safety of their homes. *nostalgic sigh* Life is grand when you're a kid, isn't it? ;)
TTFN!
newgoyle/Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 8, 1998 02:17:00 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
[The screen lights up with an image of Wilek and the gang having defeated the TGS CR lawyer clone and the evil Raoul clones. They're in SJ's lab, the clones' fortress, and they're ready to strike at the heart of the clone uprising: Wilek Fieger The Second. The real Wilek speaks.]
Fire Storm> The easiest way to have a consistent link to your name is to keep the URL in a TXT file. Whenever you post, just copy and paste the URL from the file into the appropriate box in the submit form. I've never actually typed the URL I use in every posting. Remember to put the http:// part in there, or the link won't work. And running around in (or gliding over, as the case may be) the yard naked? I *never* did that. No matter how young I was. My parents were rather proud of that. Of course, we gargs don't wear much anyhow...
Dumlao X> <<And no amount of begging or threatening can stop us>> We're not trying to stop you, we're trying to get you to premiere Timedancer early! [A giggling Forfexx taps Wilek on the shoulder--very carefully, to avoid cutting Wilek's arm off with his Freddy gloves.] Ow! What? [Forfexx shows Wilek a teddy bear version of Dumlao, with a throwing knife stuck in its eye, complete with real blood and eye juice from the lawyer clone, and a note pinned to it reading "GIV US TIMEDANSUR" scrawled in the lawyer's blood.] You're really sick, you know that? [Forfexx nods.] You're not really that bad a speller. You just did that for effect? [Forfexx nods again.] Whatever.
[Teri peeks around the corner, shoots at something, and ducks back as whatever it was shoots back at her.] What is it? [His answer stalks around the corner: Wilek Palpatine and Coyote Vader. Forfexx slits WP's throat and guts CV, laughing insanely all the while.] Doug, 'Fexx would make a great Ed. He'd never work with the Unseelie, but he's got the attitude. It's 16 dead 10 alive for Coyote's clones and 6/19 for mine. Keep your talons crossed, everyone. [Unnoticed by them, Seri, Jake, Teri, Anoth, and Forfexx are bitten by mosquitos. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, October 8, 1998 12:53:45 AM
IP: tnt-2-82-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Lady Mystic's Friends: LM told me to tell you all that she is sorry if you are waiting for one of her e-mail responces. RL stuff. She hopes to reply by Sunday.
Bummer, eh?
Is there a way I can set up this CR post screen to always display my stuff? I almost always screw up my web address.
(http://www3.visitus.net/jeremycbcd/stories/nightflame.htm)
THATS a handful to type!
SJ: The best way to keep a dog from peeing on your starfighter is to pee on the dog! THAT will teach'em!
Doug: Ed = Loki
<<Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr.: (although I never stripped and ran around the front yard in my birthday suit!) <grin> >>
Speak for yourself! <G> I think all kids did somthing like that. (I was about 2 at the time, and later a few weeks ago. <G> J/k on the last part!)
Timedancer: Well, in the future, it already came out.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:46:32 PM
IP: dhcp160.visitus.net
(..Well, not a "set date" for TD, but at least they know what year..!)
AotN
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:31:51 PM
IP: dialup-103-42.sssnet.com
People are expecting a series named TIMEDANCER to take a normal schedule?
The Rising part 1 was intriguing, to put it one word.
Frustration and enlightenment are merely one click away.
That TOWNSEND whelp
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:31:37 PM
IP: 147.226.113.228
*pouts pitifully upon reading that TD comes in '99* At least there's a set date for that one! This means that DA might not come out for another half a year! *growls and slumps in a corner* Sorry for pouting, but can you blame me?!
AotN
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:29:40 PM
IP: dialup-103-42.sssnet.com
Waitta minute, that was Salli Richardson on Mercy Point? Geez, how did I miss that? God, I must have been zoned out when I watched that show....Oh well, the android girl with the weird eyes was kinda cute too.
Sevarius Jr.
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:25:00 PM
IP: 207-172-41-123.s123.tnt10.brd.erols.com
oh and by the way...The Rising part 1 was great!!!!!! Can't wait for the next.
David - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:14:40 PM
IP: pm1-3.sma.silcom.com
**Coyote drags himself into the room, in tattered rags of clothing. After receiving a happy greeting from Buick, he smiles in absolute joy and runs around hugging anyone and everyone in the room.**
Oh, Thank GOD I made it!!
**composes self**
Hey, two days without phones will drive any Internet junkie nuts. I've just spent the last half-hour catching up on the room.
Wilek: Let's put it this way ... I planned out G:CM (as well as Rose's conception) long before I'd heard anything about Greg stating that conception between a human and a gargoyle being next to impossible. Rose is an impossible freak of nature. Let's leave it at that.
Oh, and I will be looking into tome_4.zip probably tomorrow night. More than likely I screwed up when I saved the file before zipping them.
SJ: You should've read the label on the doggoyle repellent. It states right there that it has to interact with any kind of metal before it works. It doesn't work if you spray it at the doggoyle: it just p****s him off. Just for future reference.
Once again, congrats to the TGS staff on a great episode that belongs in a class among "City of Stone" and "Avalon."
To all those approaching midterms: good luck. (You'll probably need it.)
Need to go. Must get sleep, I'm putting a new brake line in Lexington tomorrow.
**Coyote stands up after taking a drink of water from the fountain in the center of the room, jogging out.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:08:08 PM
IP: 207.91.254.56
I just wanted to know if there were any problems with The Gargoyle Saga page...the counter doesn't work and on the story page the pictures won't load.
David - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Santa Barbara County, CA, U.S.
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 11:02:10 PM
IP: pm1-3.sma.silcom.com
Want to hear something really wierd? Of course you do! The Rising technically came out Monday morning and that day I happened to give a speech on Prometheus in my World Experience Honors class! We just learned all about Greek mythology like Helios,Zeus,and such!
Allison - [jim.abadie@mcione.com]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 10:41:26 PM
IP: usr4-4-dialup41.mix1.irving.cw.net
Rayvn>> I love that dress. That's why when I wander the fabric shops, I look for material for specific outfits. It'll be march or so before I have the money. Mainly because I'll want to do a cheeper version for fitting and the like. I have never spent that much money for my Prom dress all those years ago much less that much per yard.
Spike >> thanks for the tip about Mercy Point. Got to see most of it due to the magic of timezones. Salli looks good in a uniform and boy can she kiss.
I am offically ready for the new season. I have an entire case of paper, color cartridges and black for my print. Bring on the stories.
Anyone have an idea when the main story archieves will be back on line??
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 09:17:49 PM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net
WILEK-- We didn't spoil a thing. it was already known what was inside the gate by the end of "Gros Bon Ange."
TD & DA-- Once we get a concrete date of release, we'll post it here first. And no amount of beging or threatening can stop us >:)
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 08:52:24 PM
IP: 128.97.251.55
To All> There are some people in The Gargoyles Saga I just can't grasp on. Someone explain who Umbriel,Loki,and Garlon are in detail please!
Deuce> Same here! Never read any Pendragon or Dark Ages! I know, I make myself sad.
Kyryn> Thanks for the info! Congrats on marriage! I was wondering when you would write me back!
Goddess> I sympathize with you! Timedancer is my favorite!
Theresa> I miss Calvin's snowmen!
Allison - [jim.abadie@mcione.com]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 08:52:06 PM
IP: usr2-2-dialup32.mix1.irving.cw.net
I realy like how well youre in touch with the nordic mythology, you got most parts right, Keep it up!
Frodo - [mcfrodo@hotmail.com]
IcelandWednesday, October 7, 1998 08:47:17 PM
IP: ras111.vortex.is
[Wilek and et cetera are fighting the clones of the lawyer and Raoul.]
Coyote> There's a major problem with your Tome 4 ZIP file. Life As Seen From The Fishbowl isn't in it. Fishbowl.txt actually contains a second copy of Pas De Deux. Just thought you might like to know.
[Wilek and the others continue the battle.]
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 08:10:36 PM
IP: tnt-1-135-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Hello, what's this I hear?.....TimeDancer not coming till 1999!!!!.....please someone say it aint so!! I really love Gargoyles & TD, would someone PLEASE help and post the TD story a bit sooner then that!! *puts a cute-little-girl face* pretty please!!!!! ^_^
Goddess - [alex_destine@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 07:43:46 PM
IP: proxy.coqui.net
[The screen lights up with an image of Wilek, Miriam, Wavers, Seri, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, and Raoul on the edge of clone territory. Anoth is using his half-Fey powers to heal Wavers and Seri, and the others are preparing for battle.]
Wavers and Seri> WK tried to get you? That's odd; he's not insane like my other clones...I think the others took control of his mind. <sigh>
Kyryn> <ROTFL> I wonder how long it would take C&H to bring the garg to a psychological breaking point. Probably not long for those two.
Timedancer> If you guys don't move the schedule ahead, I'm fully prepared to sic Raoul on you. I've already read all of the TD eps while the others and I were in the future, but I'll do this anyhow for the benefit of everyone else. You've been warned.
Static-Pulse> If you were animated, who would do your voice? Believe me, there's a very good reason for me to know.
[Anoth finishes healing the gargess and Transformer, and they all deploy aerosal cans of SJ's clone-degeneration virus.] Remember, it only spreads through inhalation. Only face shots count. We have a planned Armageddon to halt. [Suddenly, a horror from SJ's closet, a two-headed venom-spewing clone of the CR lawyer, comes at them with four evil clones of Raoul on a leash.] OH SNOT! Wilek Fieger has gone too far...I swear, that blue psycho is DEAD! [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 06:58:45 PM
IP: tnt-1-135-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
About "Pendragon": Given that "Pendragon" will be more interwoven with "Gargoyles" this season, it's probably not a bad idea to go back and read Season One. Be warned; due to the misguided policies of an early "Pendragon" head, it's more Arthurian retellings than actual adventures in the early part, but it gets better as it goes on. We promise that for Season Two, "Pendragon" will be more focused on Arthur's adventures in the present day and on Griff and his fellow London gargoyles.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 06:25:09 PM
IP: pn6-ppp-13.primary.net
Todd> Ah, thank you! I knew there had to be a story behind the Brocken. I like what you've done with it in TGS, because that Madoc-creating-his-fortress scene was pretty creepy! Keep up the good work!
Ravyn
Arizona
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 06:18:02 PM
IP: svm-ts6-6.c2i2.com
I'm alive and breathing. Here goes:
Gargoyles and Pendragon are doing the same storyline (aka Ragnarok) this season and will air every Monday.
TimeDancer will debut in 1999.
Dark Ages is still in the works. No known release date but the TGS staff will announce it when it's ready.
Clear enough?
Spike
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 05:33:53 PM
IP: dal-as2-1057.cmpu.net
hello
sarah the great - [smm8999@rit.edu]
Rochester, NY, US
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 05:09:23 PM
IP: d130-e070.rh.rit.edu
I gotta go quick, but does anyone ALIVE AND COHERENT
in this room have any idea when the TGS staff is gonna post Pendragon or Dark Ages?
Robin - [Kava1234@aol.com]
Madison, WI, USA
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 04:50:10 PM
IP: spider-tq074.proxy.aol.com
*looks at "Colstaone"/s comment about Dark Ages*
*sighs*
AotN
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 04:34:43 PM
IP: dialup-103-23.sssnet.com
*Wavers and Seri appear in Wilek's last post, not quite believing what they got themselves hooked up with* Wilek Kreuger? Would you mind standing over there please? *The clone shambles away* Thankee much.
Don't you all worry that Loki is merely Puck's evil twin, we assure you, he's a lot more dangerous and serious than that. Madoc had absoloutely no feelings for Merlin's mother, as we all know, she was just a pawn in his plan to create halflings to fight in The Rising.
***SPOILED SPACE***
A plan which apparently produced Umbriel as well. But if he's Madoc's nephew, does thet make him one of Oberon's get? Was he sneaking around behind Titania's back? *ooh, the possibilities*
***END SPOILED SPACE***
Desflagrate Muri Tempi Et Intervallia! *Phoenix Gate picks them up, then deposits back some slightly older and more haggard versions from the Clone wars*
*Wavers' left energon blade emitter is in shambles, sparking and hissing rather dangerously* Do you want me to take that off you?*Wavers nods, Seri takes it, revealing a scored and burned human arm beneath* It doesn't look too bad. You'll need a new one, but at least you got Wilek Kreuger before he got me. *Seri's left wing and side are torn, but nothing stone sleep won't cure*
SJ> If you make any more of those, don't ever take them out of their tanks. Better yet, start spreading the clone degeneration virus now. The future is worse than Ragnarok, and we were only there for a few minutes.
*Wavers is silent through all this, she was unable to save the future version of someone else she's close to*
Wavers and Seri
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 04:05:34 PM
IP: unit18b.miseri.edu
Hi!
Aerie: OK :)
ED - [hmed1984@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 04:01:50 PM
IP: charles.reynolds.easynet.co.uk
<Kyryn steps into the room>
Having sleep interrupted does not make for colorful Blaise-isms. The cat decided to play with the cupboard doors at three in the morning!
Merlin Missy> LOL at the pic. The art's not that bad. BTW, I've read some of your fics and enjoyed the heck out of them.
Wilek> re: Calvin & Hobbes meet a garg: I can just see sucker darts hitting the face of the garg in question. Also a later image of said garg with C & H playing jumprope using his/her tail.
Allison> from last week: I drive to Dallas because my fiance , friends, and planned wedding are up there. I took the job down here because they offered me lots of money and a slot in my degree field. I'm hoping to get back there permanently when my contract is up in ten months.
SPOILERS WARNING
I enjoyed the Rising pt.1 as a good intro to the new season. I fully expect to see a lot of new characters fleshed out.
I agree that there was not a lot of action in this one, but I fully expect that to change, given the past history/quality of the TGS writing staff
BTW I've seen a lot of the western european mythological folk addressed, but not much of the eastern mythologies. Question for TGS staff, are we going to see some of the eastern mythologies mentioned?
SPOILERS END
<Kyryn stomps out the room muttering about impossible quests as she goes in search of cat-proof latches for the cupboards>
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 03:56:22 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Hi all, my first post here!
Merlin> The pic is GREAT! really, it is funny.
Oops, thats all I have to say.
Goodnight all!!
Jonathan
NEW ZEALANDWednesday, October 7, 1998 02:23:58 PM
IP: wh20-16.wave.co.nz
**Sevarius Jr. flies into the comment room in the brand new starfighter he received from Wilek. He gently touches down, and jumps out, holding his helmet in his hand. He's wearing a leather bomber jacket with the TGS logo on the back**
Oh great, according to Wilek's post, it looks like there's another clone revolt. Geez, what's that, like the third one I've had this week? I swear, you can't teach a clone manners. Darn near impossible.
Wilek: Yeah, I know dad's dressing up again. But I don't mind this time, I mean, at least he ain't wearing something from the Victoria Secret's catalogue. But the actor who plays Lurch has been hanging out at the house lately....kinda creeps me out.
As for if there were more than one alien...I don't think so. Let's just hope that Raoul is a one of a kind. It took me forever to clean the acid outta the carpet last time I cloned one of those buggers.
Oh well, I gotta go see if I can kill me some evil clones and shut the door to my closet of horrors. Ta ta, everybody.
**SJ walks back to his starfighter....only to see Buick sniffing it curiously.
"Oh no! No no no! My car was one thing, but you ain't touching my ship!"
Buick just looks at him quizzically, his head cocked to one side.
"This time I'm prepared!" SJ whips out an aerosol can from his pocket. The label reads: DOGGOYLE REPELLANT.
He sprays Buick, until a large, noxious cloud has filled the comment room.
After much coughing and choking by SJ, the cloud disappears to reveal...SJ (holding an empty can) and one, very angry doggoyle. Buick starts to growl.
"Heh heh. Can't you take a joke?" Buick snarls a negative, as he chases SJ out of the comment room.....**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 01:49:54 PM
IP: 129.174.56.162
Todd: No wonder Madoc's mentally disturbed! If I hadn't had a date in over a thousand years, I know I would be. Too bad him and Maeve aren't together, I always thought they would make a good couple. (Guess I need to change part of my Unseelie filk song.) Oh well, it's still a good story. Hopefully, sometime in an upcoming ep we'll see Titania slap Madoc across the face. <grin>
(Warning: Fanfic-related material ahead!)
Brian: I'll send you a copy as soon as I get home. (I'm typing this on a University Library computer, don't have the story with me.) Glad you're enjoying my work, thanks for the feedback.
To answer your questions, first of all I used the Fox cartoon Spiderman because I was more familiar with him than the comic one. Except for newspaper ones and Knights of the Dinner Table, I really don't read comics that much. However, I've also incorporated parts of the comic that I like and know about into my work. A major example is Richard Fisk getting out of jail and becoming the crimelord known as the Rose. In the cartoon, the last we saw of him he was still in prison. In my fic, well, you've been reading it, so you know he's one of the five main antagonists (others being Silvan, and (eventually) Mackovic, Madoc, and Thailog). Spiderman himself also isn't in my fic right now, but he'll come back for the finale, maybe. The bad guys from his world, like Rose and Kingpin, are still around. I have a later fic planned called "Capture" where Seth and Demona will hunt the Kingpin together and take him down. Rose will play a major part in that one, as well as in "Maximum Force" (Guatemalan gargs vs. druglord Paco Cruz), "Dungeon Fortress" (one of those "inmates take over the prison" stories), and a few others. Spiderman will be gone, but for a long while the crimelords will remain.
Thailog's sacrifice, the Egon Pax assassination attempt, the defeat of the Quarrymen, and several other events I allude to in my work happened in the Goliath Chronicles. When I first started writing, I thought they were canon, and I liked them somewhat, so I incorporated them into my work. It sparked a chorus of boos, but I don't think I can do without them with what I've got going and have planned ahead, so they've stayed. Parts of TGS are in there as well, like the Unseelie Court and Brooklyn's family. Hope you continue to enjoy my work, and I soon get the e-mailed feedback earlier mentioned from you. Thank you for what you've said so far. Happy reading!
Okay, that's all for now. Later!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 01:47:00 PM
IP: fac-b-d5.lib.utexas.edu
I'm concerned. I've never so much as cracked a file of "Pendragon"; I've kept mostly to TD and Gargoyles. Will I need to go back and read all the back episodes to make heads or tails of this season?
Oh, yeah, direct this to your TD writing staff: HURRY UP! YOU CAN'T EXPECT US ALL TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY!!!!!
*calms down* Bye.
Deuce
CanadaWednesday, October 7, 1998 01:42:46 PM
IP: temple.ecs.edmonton.ab.ca
Yes, that was a deliberate reference to "The Lion King" (Madoc has just enough resemblance to Scar in motive to make it irresistible) - kind of like the line that I suggested (and which was accepted) for Lexington about Brooklyn's change in "Out of Joint Part Two" ("Our trio's down to two") - again, it struck me as perfect. (Of course, the original series also got in a "Lion King" reference in the bit in "Awakening" where Hudson's channel-surfing).
RAVYN - The Brocken is a real mountain in Germany, believed to be an abode of witches and demons in German legend; Goethe made it the site of a Witches' Sabbath in "Faust". It struck me as a very appropriate place for the Unseelie Court's headquarters, thereby. (Oddly enough, Goethe also set a "Golden Wedding of Oberon and Titania" there, complete with guest appearances from Puck and Ariel).
BRIAN - Madoc and Maeve are not married or romantically involved in any way at all, actually; they're just partners. On good terms with each other, but more in the manner of Elisa and Matt. It's Titania that Madoc desires, not Maeve. (Actually, Merlin's mother is, IMHO, the only person that Madoc's ever "done it" with).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 01:01:37 PM
IP: pn1-ppp-17.primary.net
[Wilek, Miriam, Wavers, Seri, and a few others Gate in for a quick post before they return to reading the future of TGS.] Hi all.
I'd like to introduce the "few others." The winged Alien is my new pet, Raoul (Thanks SJ!). Major cyber cookie to whoever can guess why I named him that. It's really obscure. The seven foot tall bat-wolf mutate built like Goliath on steroids is Jake Laughton. The attractive female bat-fox mutate is his wife Teri. The Dracula looking guy is Anoth Mitaxis. The psycho guy in the silver cape, black mask, Freddy gloves, and wide brimmed hat is Forfexx Argentum. And you can all recognize my kewl clone Wilek Krueger. We've all read the first three years of TGS and we're about to read the next three after we finish here. (You won't believe what happens to Sata!)
***RISING SPOILER WARNING***
I liked the ep, but it stinks that it gave a major Timedancer spoiler. I mean, the end of "Gros Bon Ange" left me totally creeped out as to what could be in the Gate. Then in the Rising we find out it's what amounts to Puck's evil twin. Yawn. If I'd written the thing, it probably would have been something right out of The Exorcist. Maybe Dahak or something like that. Although I loved the creepy scene where Madoc summoned his castle. Hey I wonder what would happen if I showed up at the PIT Halloween party...I'll have to Gate there when I finish reading the future of TGS. :)
***END RISING SPOILER***
I too loved Calvin and Hobbes. I wonder how they'd react to meeting a garg...
Be Prepared> I filked this for WCC recently. I think it's in last week's room. It would also go well with the Unseelie, although I don't know enough about them to try it. Be Prepared is my favorite Disney animated movie song ever. My favorite Disney song ever, outside of animation, is Shadowland from the Lion King Broadway stage show. Has anyone else here heard that?
Coyote> I've been thinking about something. In your fic universe, how in the world did Goliath and Elisa have a kid? I thought humans and gargs were too genetically different to allow that, according to Greg. Did Alex help?
SJ> Bad news: Dad's dressing up again. This time as Gomez Addams. Watch "Addams Family Reunion". At least he's dressing as the right gender this time. Ack. BTW, the stuff I have at the Dark Star looks an awful lot like Imperial gear. If its ID code has a ZXC-71 prefix, don't blow it up. Wait a minute...AlienS plural? There's more than one running around here? Uh oh...
Merlin Missy> Glad to see you again. That pic is the single weirdest thing I've ever seen. Not that that's a bad thing. :) Hey, you draw a *lot* better than I do. I can barely draw a stick figure without moving the ruler. Also, I have a fic up at the Avalon Archive. Page through it and see if you can find the reference to "Forever". :)
Well, must run, all! Deflagrate muri tempi et intervallia! [They disappear six years into the future...then reappear. They look like they've been in a war. Several are hurt, Jake has an eyepatch over his left eye, and Wilek Krueger is nowhere to be seen.] Guys, you won't believe this. Six years ahead, my psychotic clones and Coyote's psychotic clones have taken over the world. TGS has been destroyed, Station Eight is in hiding, Wilek Krueger was killed, most of Goliath's clan is dead...
[The screen comes on with a view of the clones of Wilek and the clones of Coyote in SJ's lab. The lead clone, Wilek Fieger the Second, speaks. "Hello all. We tire of being killed left and right simply because you envy our superiority. We clones will inherit the earth from you. And we'll do it with the help of what's in here." The clones open the closet door and allow the horrors within to escape into the world.] No...it's happening...just like they said in 2004...NOOOO! [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 12:02:45 AM
IP: tnt-1-196-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
(Brian runs into the room screeming , and covered with large , red , ants . He screams as he brushes them off of himself frantically . Getting the last one off him he then proceeds to stamp them flat on the floor .) Man , those things are serious . I'm gong to have a talk with SJ's Dad or that freako in the basement about these things , they've totally overrun my house . But in this case it might have been another geneticist , I'm getting tired of alway blaming these things on those guys .
Greetings people .
Doug : Please send me a copy of the fic . I must say I have grown to enjoy your work . But just out of curiosity , why did you choose to use the fox cartoon Spider Man instead of the comic version where you have a lot more stories to choose from and he is so much more powerful .(ie - in the comic he can press ten tonnes easy and in the cartoon he has trouble tearing open a hatch .) . You'll have to forgive me their I am a Spiderman loyalist , it is officially my favourite comic . Oh and another important matter to me . When did all the things mentioned , like Thailog's sacrifice , happen . Do you have those stories somewhere else or did you just put that in .
*******Spoiler Start*******
Todd/Kathy : Did Madoc , uh , seed the soil , resulting in Merlin's conception before or after he married Maeve . She strikes me as a human hater and not exactly the type to share her Fay .
******Spoiler end******
(Brian summons up one of his portals , reaches through and pulls through a welding mask and a flame thrower with three large tanks of napalm on a harness . He ignites the pilot light , lowers the visor and walks out to take care of his infestation . )
Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 12:01:13 AM
IP: 208.11.41.196
Mandi> No, we're not lacking for writers, since we just got on some new ones before the end of the summer, but let me know if your workload lessens. I'll keep you in mind for Dark Ages.
Dark Ages> The next season is still in the planning stages. As Kathy and I said before, we will let everyone know when it will arrive.
Aerie> Thanks for the comments on the profile page. Sheesh! Didn't mean to start a wave of "Calvin&Hobbes" comments! :) I loved that series dearly. It holds a special place in my heart, because I see a lot of my younger self in Calvin, and I often wonder if Bill lived next door to my family at one time or another, because I see Calvin doing a lot of what I did at that age (although I never stripped and ran around the front yard in my birthday suit!) <grin>
For the comments on the staff, and the work we did, Thanks all . . . we did our best.
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 11:50:13 PM
IP: 207.170.232.87
Congratulations on a fantastic first episode for Season 2!
One question: This bit about Gargoyles and Pendragon being merged for this season - how are you going to decide where to archive a given episode?
Also - Someone suggested that we think of this as one of those big comic book crossovers. Well, said crossovers still have one issue of each title per month, exactly as when there are no cross-overs happening. Likewise, I would very much like to see one ep each of Gargoyles and Pendragon this season, just like last season. Note that I have no problem with the use of both series to tell a single story, nor do I have any problem with characters who star in one series appearing in the other if the plot warrants it; I just want the one ep per day, Monday through Thursday, to continue through this season.
One final request: are there any plans to make use of the Cyberclan (Coldstone, Coldsteel, and Coldfire) this season?
Dataweaver - [traveler@io.com]
Simi Valley, CA, USA
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 11:01:31 PM
IP: sunny.moorpark.cc.ca.us
Ravyn: You weren't the only one who thought of "Lion King" when that scene happened. Madoc is Scar, Morrigan is Shenzi, Loki is Banzai, and let me think, who could be Ed?
Doug
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 10:42:06 PM
IP: hil-dnppr-125.oh.compuserve.net
Calvin and Hobbes: Ah, I miss that comic, too. It was great. Good plots, good characters, good jokes, great philisophical wisdom, I loved it all. I especially liked the snowmen, Calvin's neverending war with his babysitter, and that cardboard box that could be a time machine, duplicator, transmorgifier, world's most powerful computer costume, or whatever Calvin and Hobbes wanted it to. Calvinball was good, too. I constantly try to get my friends to play it, so far little success with anyone but Jim, Tricia, and Lisa/Kitainia. Too bad it all had to go away. Oh well, all things come to an end, even the good ones, sadly. Like my favorite slogan of the comic's goes, "The problem with the future is it keeps turning into the present."
(Warning: Episode Spoilers Ahead!)
I will critique The Rising now. Great job, TGS folk! Madoc, Umbriel, Maeve, Goliath, Lex, Broadway, Demona, Angela, Brooklyn, Sata, Elisa, and the twins were all well-charecterized. The plot also ruled, it was a great set-up for the events of the new season and the dynamic action I expect to see in Part 2. (I love action, and TGS has written it well so far.) It was also good to see some of the fay's history, and the source of the rivalry between Madoc and Oberon as well as why they look so much alike. (Needless to say, I'll be incorporating all the flashbacks in both parts of The Rising into my fanfic saga with appropriate credit given where it's due.) This ep was partially intended to get us all interested in and excited about the new season, and it worked on me. I hope and know that everyone at TGS will keep up the good work.
(End Episode Spoilers.)
Kitainia's Reference: Alright, I'll go ahead and tell everybody where that came from, seeing as I have her permission and the thread's been dropped in here. The line "Oh joy! Oh rapture! Oh no!" belongs to Garfield the Cat. It was said in his Thanksgiving holiday special, in which he is put on a diet the day before Thanksgiving. Figuring that if he can't enjoy it, no one else should be able to, he further sabotages Jon's already horribly prepared dinner. Then the vet takes him off the diet on Thanksgiving to let him take a rest and get the stress off him temporarily, and well, you can guess why Garfield says the above line. (But really, it's not the same without his expression.) Fortunately, Jon's Grandma shows up just in time to save the dinner and the day, so happy ending all around.
Fanfic News: (Shameless Plug Warning!) Still waiting for Chris to fix his submission form so I can post the next one. If anybody wants a copy early, just let me know and I'll e-mail you one. I should get it up soon, this is just in case anybody's having trouble waiting. (I already mailed you a copy, Mandi, since you seem so enthusiastic to see Fox kill Sevarius and kick Muscles Malone's military-minded jerk gang leader tush. Even if that is only a small part of the main focus of the story, which is a partial explanation of Silvan's motives and the introduction of Changeling.)
In other news, my next planned fanfic is going to be a big one, involving the New Olympians and their attempts to gain acceptance by the rest of the world. They will find it easier than in Greg's original plan, at least until Silvan has my universe's Thailog and the Ultra-Pack (yes, we will finally get to see them in action) screw things up. Taurus, Proteus, Helios, Sphinx, Terry, Boreas, etc will all put in appearances, some more important than others. So will at least three original New Olympians, Coyote 7, and the Ultra-Pack's fifth member (Not Lobo, in my fanfic universe it's a guy named Stray). More about it in the main Gargoyles CR, hope my readers look forward to the idea.
Okay, that's all for now. Later!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 10:40:06 PM
IP: hil-dnppr-125.oh.compuserve.net
Hi, everyone! Wow! Things have been kinda busy around here (it's Homecoming week...;) ), so finally I was able to sit down and read "The Rising" just a couple minutes ago! Fantastic stuff! My sincerest congratulations to all the staff members on a great Season 2 Premeire!
**SPOILERS BEGIN NOW!**
I really liked the references to Celtic and even some Egyptian deities in "The Rising!" I hate to sound dumb, but can anyone tell me if there's some kind of legend or something about Brocken, Germany? It's really interesting what the Unseelie have created there...and I think Umbriel is gonna have to play some big part later on. And maybe it was just me, but when Madoc was rallying the Unseelie to join him and leave Avalon, I immediately thought of Scar's song from the Lion King...:)
**SPOILERS ARE FINISHED!**
Theresa> Man, oh man, do I miss Calvin & Hobbes! I loved the "Transmogrifier," and everything else in that wonderful comic! And it seems like you have some nice plans for that dress material! Me, I like to sew, but can't make anything that looks remotely good...heck, I've worked on cars more than I've sewn stuff...;)
Can't wait til Rising part 2...can't wait for Rising part 2... :)
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 10:22:21 PM
IP: svm-ts2-9.c2i2.com
Calvin and Hobbs retired. The author wanted to go out at a high note and so retired them in full bloom. I, too, miss my time travel box and dinosaurs and tigers that talk. And let's not forget Calvin ball and all its rules.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 10:07:11 PM
IP: proxy-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net
Missy< *LOL* where do you come UP with this stuff??? I love it!!!
Todd< My apologies. I thought it was next week. Sorry to all who's sense of airing direction I just screwed up for Pendragon. But the Rising part two IS next week, never fear.
Stephen< Howdy. *takes a gander at the pic* I love Calvin and Hobbes and Lucasfilms. T'was a pity when the good ol' upstart and his tiger retired. At least for my local newspaper. I haven't found him yet; the Crusade Continues...
ED< Hrm, man, that would be awesome if we could ever animate ... I wish. :) Still, we could use your opening and ending credits stuff in our imaginations. It'd spice stuff up even more (Things go boom). :)
Well, time to head off for some studying. 'Francais', anyone? :) A tout a l'heure, all that good stuff.
*gets dragged off by her large purple dog-goyle, Queens, who's tugging impatiently on the chain leash*
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 08:11:26 PM
IP: spider-tl032.proxy.aol.com
Yes, "The Rising" WAS fantastic.
...but what about new DARK AGES episodes?
*sighs wistfully*
AotN
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 07:46:27 PM
IP: dialup-103-98.sssnet.com
Static Pulse>> A Midwinter's Tale is the christmas episode. Most of the way down towards the end of the list.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 07:20:03 PM
IP: proxy-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net
Glad to see y'all are enjoying "The Rising part 1". Trust us, if you liked this ep, the rest will blow you away.
Now, for an explanation of the Gargoyles/Pendragon crossover:
We have a giant crossover story going this season between Gargoyles and Pendragon - right? I don't think anybody doesn't understand that. Some stories are set in Europe, some are set in America, some are set in both. For all intents and purposes there is no Gargoyles this season nor Pendragon: it's The Gargoyle Saga.
Hope this clears things up.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 07:19:59 PM
IP: dhcp75.oac-commons.ucla.edu
Chronologywise, TGS has to lag a bit behind the real world perforce, because we chose to ignore the Goliath Chronicles (except for "The Journey"). The first season ends in the October of 1997 ("Reprisals" and "Quest's End"). "The Rising" is set at the end of October 1997, mostly Halloween night. Over the coming season, we'll try to get caught up to the present, so that it'll be 1999 by the end of Season Two.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 06:39:25 PM
IP: pn10-ppp-150.primary.net
Merlin> Great picture! I'm in a school computer lab right now and had to choke back the laughter so other students won't look at me funny. It's hard enough being a gargoyle :)
Duece brought up a good question, what is the year that Gargoyles and Pendragon are set in? Sometimes it seems like 1996 or 1997, other times 1998. Any comments, TGS staff?
Cassandra - [nscoa3099@alpha.nsula.edu]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 06:22:43 PM
IP: 204.196.32.65
"The Rising Part Two" is *not*, I repeat, *not*, a Pendragon episode. It is a "Gargoyles" episode. The episode *following* "The Rising Part Two" (to be released on the 19th of October, 13 days from now) will be the first episode of "Pendragon" for this season.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 06:12:09 PM
IP: pn10-ppp-150.primary.net
I just wanted to stop by and praise everyone involved in TGS. 'The Rising' Part 1 is a magnificent story, and I can't wait to see the next part.
On a related topic, I'm curious about how Gargoyles and Pendragon will merge schedule-wise. Is 'The Rising' Part 2 the first episode of Pendragon season 2?
(I save the TGS stories to disk, but I save Gargoyles and Pendragon on seperate disks. Will the two series be massively crossing over, or will it just be a unifying theme that will link them? When saving Gargoyles and Pendragon this season, do I save it - 'The Rising 1', 'The Rising 2', Pendragon, Gargoyles, Pendragon, Gargoyles, etc. or do I continue to save them on seperate disks?)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 05:47:43 PM
IP: 138.new-york-01.ny.dial-access.att.net
I think I didn't make my earlier question clear: What I meant to ask was, if Pendragon and Gargoyles will be interwoven this season, will we still get an episode of Pendragon and an episode of Gargoyles each week? Or will we have to settle for an ep of one or the other each week instead of both airing?
When I asked how the crossover would be set up, I meant in terms of general airing order. I know you're not allowed to divulge spoilers, but specifics about what is airing when and how often should be okay. :)
Stephen -- Is Dark Ages delayed because of a lack of writing staff? *wink, nudge* No, I'm kidding, really. I was tempted to ask after the Gathering, but I've already got a lot on my plate as it is.
And I do have a relevant question for the TGS staff: Would you accept donations of TGS fan drawings from those not on the art staff? If not, what about linking to a separate archive of non-staff fan-drawn TGS art? Not that I have anything decent done, but it was a thought that came to mind. ;)
Missy -- Don't put down your own work. Ever. The pic is hysterical!
Well, since we can't count down until the Rising anymore...
1 day, 4 hours, 47 minutes, and 6 seconds before Mandi goes home for Fall Break!!! (Nooo, I'm not impatient!)
'Tis all...
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 04:05:38 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40
Hi Aerie and Kathy as well! :)
ED
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 02:37:32 PM
IP: webcache3.planet.net.uk
Hi all!
Here's an interesting idea. How do you picture THE RISING introduction (and maybe ending)? To clarify:
Whenever I read an ep of TGS or of any fanfic really, I often imagine it just like the original animated series, and I imagine everyone else does, or something not too different. It often annoys those around me that they can tell what's happening in the story by the music I'm humming (taken from the original series). Anyway, the point is, if TGS was a TV series and you were thrown in the deep end to do the first ep of the new season, what build up would you do to it?
Here's what I'd do:
There's a black screen, and then, in that gold new TGS font (like the words "Comment Room" are written in at the top here), the words at the very bottom of the CR are written ("October 5th, 1998/ A day that will never be forgotten/ The stage has been set/ The players are ready/ Prepare for Ragnarok!"). A drum beat would sound as each line replaced the other on the screen. And then when Ragnarok comes up, I'd have the music starting up, just like when you've got your sun setting on the normal intro. At that point you'd have the Gargoyles logo in small up the top, and the normal blue fonted "THE RISING" and beneath, with a small delay, appearing "PART ONE" and then, after that the credits for Kathy and Todd. Then the normal tune plays quietly, and instead of a normal introduction scene, you get the scene from REPRISALS with Owen and David, although transparent, so you can see normal pictures. Then, at the end of that, it goes dark again, and you have the "THE RISING" and "PART ONE" appear again, as in normal eps this time, and then the little bit saying "BROCKEN, GERMANY" appear at the bottom, and on and on etc.
For the end, ***INCLUDES SPOILERS FROM END OF EP*** I'd have the screen go black as you see the Unseelie army setting out (after the grain of truth bit). There'd be Madoc's shout of "And so we begin anew" heard, and then the ending in text just like the beginning, of "Out of the trees came the Unseelie Ride/ They galloped into Columbus Circle/ They charged down Broadway/ and headed towards Times Square/ The hooves of the steeds struck fire upon the pavement/ and the yell-hounds and Garm howled wildly as they ran/ TO BE CONTINUED... The music would build up until after "anew" and then stop, and the text would go past in silence. ***NO MORE SPOILERS AFTER THIS POINT***
Anybody else got any ideas for a special introduction to the new series?
And Christine: Very, very well put indeed. :)
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London-- what are Arthur, Griff, Una, Merlin and Leo up too then??, England
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 02:13:25 PM
IP: p39-forktail-gui.tch.virgin.net
**SPOILED SPACE**
I just wanted all you staffers to know that The Rising is great! It really lets you know who the players are going to be next season, and who the 'big guns' are. I'd have liked a better explanation on Umbriel, though. He's fascinating.
***END SPOILED SPACE***
Seri
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 02:07:06 PM
IP: unit1b.miseri.edu
Wanted to say for the record that the TGS Staff are _great_!!! What you're doing, the magnitude of this project, and the fact that it has worked so well with a minimum of bloodshed, is truly impressive! Organizing this all, coming up with the outlines, beating the writers into shape, tough but fair editing, getting things posted ... you are doing a fantastic job!
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 12:47:56 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
*Merlin delurks long enough to see that "The Rising" is being well received, and offers a thumbs-up sign to Todd and Kathy. As she leaves the room again, you notice a tickertape left behind her.*
"Click on my name for something inspired by Static-Pulse's post yesterday (got this mental image and hadta get rid of it). Note: I have never *ever* claimed to be able to draw.*
Merlin Missy - [mrwilson@umr.edu]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 11:05:59 AM
IP: speedo.physics.umr.edu
I should probably go look this up, but I figured I'd get a quicker answer here. Was there a Chrismas TGS ep? I know there was a Thankgiving one, and then it dropped into the whole affair with Dr. Goldblum (sp?) and the Yaks, so O can't quite remember. Thanks.
Static-Pulse - [khovak]
Tuesday, October 6, 1998 10:31:59 AM
IP: cb1705.wccs.cc.al.us
Part two of the Rising will air next week as well as the
first episode of this season's Pendragon.
That's not quite it, Aerie. Next week is "The Rising Part Two", and the week *after* that is the first episode of this season's Pendragon. Please try to get things straight.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:46:47 PM
IP: pn10-ppp-139.primary.net
So, does anyone know when Dark Ages starts up again? :)
AotN
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:45:41 PM
IP: dialup-103-22.sssnet.com
Personally, I liked Thomas Revor's reading. As I read it myself, I kept hearing his voice and how he read it. True, it was not too much of a surprise, but I liked sharing the experience of hearing the Rising with a large group of Garg fans.
***SPOILING WARNING!***
I left out the egg salad all night, and it went bad.
***END SPOILED WARNING!***
Wilek, SJ, and Doug: Now Sevarius Sr. can't come out of the closet, eh?
Todd: Any idea how many people logged onto the site to read the story?
***MORE SPOILERS!***
I saw the furture of Gargoyles, and in it, EVERYONE IS DEAD! THE EARTH HAS BEEN DESTROIED!
(Given, it was a few billion years into the future.)
***END SPOILED MILK!***
(Got Milk?)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:45:01 PM
IP: dhcp168.visitus.net
Mandi > Think of it this way. We have such a big story to tell this season that we've incorporated the casts from Gargoyles and Pendragon to tell it. It's kind of like one of those mega crossovers that they do in the comics occasionally. So the way it's going to work is every Monday from now until the end of the season *knock on virtual wood* you'll get a new Gargoyles episode. Sometimes they'll take place in the UK, sometimes they'll take place in Manhattan and sometimes - just because we want to - everyone will get into the action!
So sit back, make sure your seat belt is firmly buckled and enjoy the ride.
kathy
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:30:50 PM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net
Greetings all . . .
Carolyn> Hey there, Aerie! Good to see you outside of the staffing office! :)
In case anyone wants to see what one of your TGS staff is up close, click on my name.
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:26:52 PM
IP: 207.170.232.136
**THIS WHOLE MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE ELEVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ "THE RISING I", GET YER ASPHALT DOWN THERE AND READ IT!**
Whoa. Nice. I've just been sitting on my backside all summer, reading back episodes I missed, and waiting, and waiting. It was worth it. The only gripe I had was that the flashbacks never showed the Unseelie/Oberon battle, but I guess that's for next week.
Regarding that thing Auburn Red said about the Children not being biological: no, they're probably not. But if you get into mythology (esp. Greek, like I'm doing in English), you'll see that certain gods like Zeus had a hard time keeping their loincloths on, if you get my drift.... I wouldn't put it past Big Blue to be the literal father of quite a few of his figurative Children.
MORE SPOILERS: Why is TGS turning into MopeFest '98? (Or '96, if they're still suffering from series-lag). Angela's depressed, Lex is depressed, Elisa seems less than happy... and then there's Madoc. Whoa. Attitude problem.
Anyway, gotta fly (figuratively). Still lots of homework to do. UNTIL NEXT WEEK!!!
Deuce - [not@liberty2.say]
CanadaMonday, October 5, 1998 10:41:05 PM
IP: ts17100.connect.ab.ca
Mandi< I got the name spelled correctly, right? Good :) Part two of the Rising will air next week as well as the first episode of this season's Pendragon. As for colliding ... aw, c'mon, waiting for the read's half the fun :)
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 10:02:33 PM
IP: spider-tl022.proxy.aol.com
Heyas, everybody! *looks at Kathy* Ah, no one probably knows me, too, don't look like that :) I'm also a TGSer, in case anyone doesn't know me. Just toodled by for a little check to see how everyone liked the season so far.
Hats off to Patrick is right, as well as all TGS technical staff for busting their butts to fix uploading and everything. They worked real hard (and considering I don't know a thing about HTML, the feat is even more awe-inspiring) ::They came, they saw, they kicked it's cursed hard-drive::
I wish everyone a happy reading and an entertaining season! *disappears in a blaze of fire*
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:58:35 PM
IP: spider-tl022.proxy.aol.com
Just stopping in to ask what might be a stupid question:
How exactly are Pendragon and Gargoyles going to collide? That is, is part two of the Rising coming next week as a Pendragon ep? I didn't understand the explanation of the airing order, and was thinking that it was along the lines of an episode of each every two weeks, alternating. Is that really what's going to happen, or will we get an ep of Pendragon and an ep of Gargoyles each week?
Just wondering so I know how to set my impatience level. :)
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:55:27 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40
AUBURN RED - I've already said this here before today, but once again; "Oberon's Children" is a figurative term, not a literal term. They aren't his biological children.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 5, 1998 07:02:57 PM
IP: pn6-ppp-30.primary.net
*peering in from the future, where she and the Gate Hunters are reading all the episodes ever written. Nyahh Nyahh!*
SJ> The Second Seasons of Timedancer and Dark ages premiered in January 1999.
All who've been didcussing it> I thought that Mab was an alternate spelling for Medb, who as we all know, is none other than Maeve of the Unseelie. Also, on the Danu issue, lots of ancient European cultures has Mother-goddesses with similar names, i.e. Doni, Dona, Duna, Duni, Dana. It's been postulated that these all come from one common cultural/religious root or figure, and they definately appear in the modern Romance languages. Go look at a Spanish or Italian dictionary for the translation of 'Lady', particularly one of wealth and power.
*returns to her spot next to Wilek, eagerly reading back TGS episodes*
Seri
Monday, October 5, 1998 05:29:02 PM
IP: 199.224.109.214
Hello Nice People in the Room!!!!
To those of you that don't know me *takes a look around* that would be most of you, Hi, I'm kathy and I work for TGS.
Next week the Wild Ride begins, but that's all the spoiler you get from me! We worked too hard to revel more. Right, Todd?
To those of you that are looking forward to TimeDancer and Dark Ages I've got good news and bad news: The good news is that both series are in production now. TimeDancer is set to make its 2nd season debut in Jan'99. The bad news is we're having a little bit of trouble translating Brother Edmund's journals, (he had this annoying habit of alternating between Old English and Latin, you see) and Hudson hasn't been willing to talk about the old days much. So the series may premire a little bit later than we'd planned. But keep the faith, we're working hard to make sure you get your fixes.
In the meantime, enjoy this season's super- crossover TGS special where Gargoyles and Pendragon collide!
kathy
Monday, October 5, 1998 05:28:37 PM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net
Greetings all...
Glad to see that we've gotten such positive responses back from "Rising, Pt.1", despite all of our technical problems. I've said it before, but kudos are in high order for Patrick Toman for making sure we got it out on scheduel.
As the TGS Writing Director, for Kathy, Todd and all of us at the staff, I'd like to say to the fans:
Twernt Nuthin'! :)
***SPOILER ALERT BEGIN***
I don't know if this is out of my bounds (so apologies to the rest of the staff for this) but Timedancer Season 2 has yet to be writen. A future announcement will be made as soon as everything is ready there.
***SPOILER ALERT END***
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, October 5, 1998 05:23:42 PM
IP: 61.ieway.com
Shauntell: Read down the CR and you'll see tonnes of correct links. Todd is one.
ED
Monday, October 5, 1998 04:48:58 PM
IP: p07-nightjar-gui.tch.virgin.net
Can anybody tell me what is going on??!! I tried to get the new story The Rising #1 and I got this thing saying,
File Forbidden. Why can't I get the Gargoyles stories? I never had a problem before. Where am I supposed to go to get the stories? I've been waiting all summer to see them and now there is a glitch in the web site, or something. I'm not to happy about that. Has anyone else had the same problem?
Shauntell - [SGargoyle9]
Monday, October 5, 1998 04:24:51 PM
IP: spider-wb081.proxy.aol.com
*glides into the room and lands with a clank as his metallic talons hit the ground*
Man, I almost forgot what today was! It wasn't until mid-morning I even remembered that the new season started... Thank goodness the my brain functions on a series of seemingly random links. :-)
***Spoilers***
Hmm... Fey don't like dragons, eh... Looks like I'm gonna have to start snubbing the fare-folk now, cuz -- you know -- I gotta stay loyal to the coolest Mythological beasts ever. But, anyway, I can't wait to see the ramifications of the mere mention that the Dragon Father (for lack of a better memory) was simply locked away, much like Loki. :-) *lets loose a feral roar in honor of the dragons*
***Spoilers***
Well, I'll probably read Time Dancer tomorrow between class, so look for me midday. :-) 'Til all are one!
*flies off in search of the Dragon Father*
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 03:53:53 PM
IP: dialin41.sel.the-link.net
**Sevarius Jr. flies into the comment room in his new starfighter, blasting Unseelie left and right**
Thanks Wilek! Hope you enjoy your Aliens! Just remember, they bleed acid! That's real hard to get outta silk.
As for the Rising...Man, 5 months to wait, but I wasn't disappointed. Now if I can only wait for the rest of the season. Hey, when's Timedancer or Dark Ages starting up? Now that we've gotten a taste of the new season, you can't just expect us to not want more!
Man, I'm still jacked up from the Rising. I think I'll go blow up a Death Star or two. C-ya!
**SJ flies out of the comment room in search of bigger prey...**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 03:37:28 PM
IP: 129.174.56.39
Oh, and thanks Patrick too, for all the stuff Kathy was talking about in S8! Nice one! :)
ED
Monday, October 5, 1998 03:33:52 PM
IP: p54-jacana-gui.tch.virgin.net
DumlaoX: *laughs* What a shame, with that first post… you've got the atmosphere so well built up, and then you put in the server troubles note ;) Never mind! :)
On with comments!!
The One Eyed Squid: I agree on action. I always find it rather annoying, really. At times it's very neat, and TGS has some examples of wonderfully written action scenes (IMHO at least), but the story is the best part of fanfics, as, unlike the TV show, short, smooth scenes are difficult to manage. I always thought TGS managed it pretty well.
***LOTS OF THESE SPOILER THINGS AHEAD***
It feels weird doing that again… :) Heh…
Anyway, the ep kicked off nicely. I thought Todd & Kathy were a little flashback skimpy, considering all the plot points tied together, but there we go… The Brocken scenes were very nicely done, giving careful insights into the past of the Court, without bombarding info. Umbriel's growing doubts throughout the ep proved a lovely addition to the otherwise linear tales of Madoc. But that's not to say it wasn't necessarily so, nor that I didn't enjoy those parts. The flashbacks were also quite nice… I liked the build up of Madoc there. One thing that was a bit overwhelming was the names and stuff bombarded at the reader throughout these sections. I realise it's all from mythology and stuff, but I think all the names and stuff were thrown out a tad fast. But that's just a small complaint, as I'm sure there'll be time to get used to all the characters and events throughout the series.
Back in New York, I like the reintroduction of each of the characters.
Lex: Very appropriate. The scene with Sata was particularly good.
Sata and the twins: On form, but not sensational. I sometimes wonder if they need more depth. But the twins also serve as a great break from the intensity of the rest of the events.
Hudson & Bronx: More in the background than anything else, but worth a mention for being well portrayed.
Angela: Some lovely bits in there.
Demona: Delightful insight.
BW: I feel sorry for the poor guy, but he's got a great role, that is both well developed from THE JOURNEY, without being changed too much. A balance well struck.
Brook: I feel a bit strange about him being fatherly. But I guess 40 years would do that to him.
Elisa: Pretty good. Nice scenes with Goliath.
Goliath: Umm… nice scenes with Elisa ;)
My fave bit of it, was at the end. I both love and hate cliff-hangers. But I love them overall. And this was absolutely lovely. I read through "It is time to begin" through to the end again and again and again, savouring it. It's lovely. Beautiful beat to it. I love it.
Anyway, very good introductory episode. It hasn't got the incredible climaxing power of REPRISALS or the mind blowing intrigue of CONSEQUENCES, nor perhaps even the significance of TURNCOAT. It does have the best build up since SOMETHING WICKED (although I sort of picked up on that, since I loved the title, if you remember back in S8- I helped the countdown for ages). It's a solid, good TGS story, which both acts as a marvellous reintroduction to the characters, and starts to shade in some old areas.
Only one note of frustration to add… if it took the Gargoyles 2 days to get there from REPRISALS, why did we have to wait 5 months??? ARGH!!!!!!! :)
(oh, and lovely pics Flynt!)
***THE SPOILERS WENT. AND SO DID ED***
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London- can't wait to see what's happening here! ;), England
Monday, October 5, 1998 03:15:34 PM
IP: p60-pigeon-gui.tch.virgin.net
TGS staff>Great job! I can't wait to see what happens next.
Cassandra - [nscoa3099@alpha.nsula.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 01:53:32 PM
IP: 199.184.64.176
IT WORKS!!!
Did some browsing over on Chris's server and found out that he uploaded the whole TGS directory into a new directory altogether. Pages will look slightly screwed up but for the most part we got the site back again.
Including THe Rising part 1
You can now get to the new ep via the text site Patrick placed up or by the main site.
Enjoy!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 01:51:20 PM
IP: dhcp62.oac-commons.ucla.edu
Okay,i finally found it! Great story I can't wait to see how it will turn out.
**** SPOILER BEGINNING***
I liked the Children of oberon's portrayal.We got to know how they work,whothey were,even more emotion than in the series.This has probably been answered before,but are the CofO literally Oberon's children or do they have parents of their own?(some call each other cousin others like the Wierd Sisters and puck call each other brother and sister ,and Loki is a lot like Puck)
***SPOILER END
auburn red - [foxglvoe7@hotmail.com]
dittmer, mo., U.S.A.
Monday, October 5, 1998 01:47:06 PM
IP: 204.184.174.27
*Sigh* Since some people still seem to be missing the message that Dumlao's posted so many times in the comment room already, I'll repeat it.
"The Rising Part One" is at the back-up site. Click on my name to get there.
The business about Danu rather than Mab being Oberon's mother is another case of our coming up with ideas before Greg Weisman announced his own, and by the time that he'd made his own announcement at "Ask Greg" it was too late to change it.
The name "Avallach" was taken from Welsh legend, where Avalon was sometimes referred to as "Ynys Avallach" or "The Isle of Avallach"; Avallach was a mysterious ruler over Avalon, of whom extremely little was known. Danu was a sort of mother-goddess in Irish mythology, and likewise a not-very-detailed figure. The Irish faerie-folk were named after her: the Tuatha de Danaan or the Children of Danu. (This seems to have been a case of literal descent, rather than "Oberon's Children", which is metaphorical).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:11:43 PM
IP: pn15-ppp-174.primary.net
Nicodemus, If it's not to much trouble, do you know any spasifics of their ledgends.
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:57:15 AM
IP: 166.109.180.25
*meets Wilek, Miriam, and the pet alien, who had better behave, or he'll get dumped into the timestream*
Ready everyone? *nods of assent*
*addresses eveyone else in the CR* Then we'll be seeing you, in the FUTURE!
*Seri holds the Gate high above her head* Desflagrate muri tempe et inervallia! *the Pheonix flame engulfs them all*
Seri and Wavers
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:46:47 AM
IP: unit1b.miseri.edu
Wilek: (sigh) Okay!
Coyote: Nope. The reference wasn't from anything to do with X-Mas.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:40:56 AM
IP: fac-b-d4.lib.utexas.edu
[Wilek comes in.] Um, Doug? When you blew SJ's closet last week...that wasn't the closet he was referring to. That was his *dad's* closet from the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Glad you blew it anyhow. :) (I have plans for SJ's closet of horrors in a Blaisism.)
I thought the ruler before Oberon was Oberon's psychotic mother Mab, who Oberon overthrew. That's what I read in Ask Greg anyhow. Was it changed for the same reason as the names of Brook's wife and kids were changed?
Brian (last week)> The Star Wars gear? Well...technically it belongs to Miriam's big mysterious organization. After the Empire cratered, Sienar Fleet Systems, Cygnus Spaceworks, and Kuat Drive Yards (among other manufacturers) were left without anyone to pay them. Miriam's big mys. org. was in need of a battle fleet. Thus, they commissioned the Dark Star. Also, I can in fact imagine Xanatos crying; there's a GFW archive fanfic called "I'm Sorry" which illustrates this. (Of course, I could also imagine the events of Kiki The Weird's "The Rescue". Or "The Escape"; I forget which.)
[SJ comes over and whispers something to Wilek.] Oh, it's ready? >:) Good. Is it leash-trained and housebroken? [SJ nods.] Lovely. Oh, and who was the host? [SJ whispers the answer to Wilek.] Oh good; I never liked him. Thank you SJ; ask Miriam about payment. Any starfighter you like...[SJ smiles evilly and runs off to find Miriam.]
TGS site server nightmares> That reminds me of what happened to Apogee when they tried to release Rise Of The Triad. Just when they were ready to upload the demo to the Internet, there was a power outage. Ack. Murphy's Law strikes again...
Seri> <GASP> You found the Gate?! YES!!! WOO-HOO!!! Get Wavers and meet Miriam, myself, the rest of my party, and my new pet outside! Three years ahead, here we come! [Wilek leaves.]
Wilek Nereus
Monday, October 5, 1998 11:12:40 AM
IP: tnt-1-175-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
* a large, dark, and sinister hooded figure enters the CR* Is it the glitch that caused ther server to crash? Is it CyberLex back from the other dimension? Is it Madoc Morfryn come to begin his reign of terror early?
*horned head peeks from behind the figure and rips off the cover, revealing a massive Unseelie-shaped cake* No! It's just me! *G* Congratulations, TGS staffers! You've made a lot of gargfen very happy! *cuts off the cake's head and eats it* I'm off to read the new episode! Enjoy the cake. *leaves hurriedly, but a blue enameled artifact can be seen hanging from her belt. Apparently, the Gate quest was successful*
Seri
Monday, October 5, 1998 10:53:34 AM
IP: unit1b.miseri.edu
**Coyote enters the room dancing.**
WOO-HOO!! TGS SEASON 2 IS UNDERWAY!!
**composes himself.**
Heheh ... sorry ...
"The Rising": Outstanding story, in the tradition of "City of Stone" and "Avalon." To quote Forrest Gump, "and that's all I have to say about that." (no spoilers from me!)
Kitainia's reference: Sounds like either "Tiny Toons" (which I remember did an "It's a Wonderful Life" parody as a holiday special) or "Darkwing Duck." (which did its own "It's a Wonderful Life" parody.) I'm not entirely sure. If by some miracle I'm right, you know my tastes.
**Coyote dances back out of the room.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 5, 1998 10:51:41 AM
IP: 207.91.254.58
One Eyed Squid: Avallach and Danu are actual figures in Celtic mythology. While the former is somewhat obscure, the later is a fairly well-known Celtic goddess (if I remember correctly, she's part of Irish legend in particular).
Nicodemus - [whalen@pacbell.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 10:05:41 AM
IP: ppp-207-215-85-125.scrm01.pacbell.net
Shameless Plug Warning!
Mandi: Well, I'll get it up as soon as Chris gets his fanfic archive's submission form working again. (It's not now, but it will soon be, he told me.) Until then, I hope I don't keep everyone in too much suspense about my latest. <gr>
End Shameless Plug!
Theresa: If the reference you're referring to is the one in Kitainia's post, you're wrong. It's nothing from Gargoyles. Another clue: It's a line from a holiday special. Come on, this is an easy one. How many holiday special cartoon characters would yell "Oh joy! Oh rapture! Oh no!!"? Only one that we've heard.
Okay, that's all for now. Later!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:51:00 AM
IP: hd52-090.hil.compuserve.com
I did it again, sorry. Now as I was saying....
***Spoilers***
The Rising part 1 was a great episode. I admit it was a little short on action. but, for some reason, I allways find action a little boring in the written form. One thing the episode had in ample amounts was plot. It's nice to see some of the fey history. I'm certainly intriged by the Dragon War a definetly want to here more about it. On another note, the Fey seemed rather human to me in the way they were portrayed when compared to how they were shown in the series. One final question, are Denu and the fey king, I forget his name, real myths or they entirly made up.
***End Spoilers***
"The One Eyed Squid reterns to the depths of the fish bowl."
TheOneEyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:49:07 AM
IP: 166.109.180.31
Sorry, I acsidentally clicked the submit button before I finished writing my post.
***Spoilers***
Finally a new ep.
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:37:46 AM
IP: 166.109.180.31
"from the depths of the Comment Room fish bowl rises The One Eyed Squid"
***Spoilers***
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:35:22 AM
IP: 166.109.180.31
"from the depths of the Comment Room fish bowl rises The One Eyed Squid"
***Spoilers***
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:35:21 AM
IP: 166.109.180.31
NEW EPISODE SIGN! NEW EPISODE SIGN!
Quick, Crow, Servo, let's get to the viewing room!
Glad to see that even with a few technical flaws on the main server, the TGS staff still managed to pull off the new season premier just as promised. Looks like it's going to be a great one!
Philip Jacobs - [nementh@visi.net]
Newport News, Virginia, USA
Monday, October 5, 1998 09:06:43 AM
IP: ppp44.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net
what is going on with the new season? I have been waiting all summer for this and it just figures.='(
valerie
stow, ohio
Monday, October 5, 1998 08:43:36 AM
IP: 130.101.90.11
What's with this? I've been waiting all summer for the next episode and they can't find the file! I don't believe it! How dare they?
auburn red - [foxglove7@hotmail.com]
dittmer, mo., u.s.a.
Monday, October 5, 1998 08:32:14 AM
IP: 204.184.174.22
13th!! Ooh, the lucky number...
The Rising's begun! Yes! Yes! Yes! (Okay, I'll shut up now. But the prospect of reading the season premiere is the only thing that got me up at 6 this morning. I might have slept through class otherwise.)
Doug: You've finally hit "Masterpiece"? Yaay! You did tell me a little about it at the Gathering, and got me all excited. (Personally, I just want to see Fox get back at Sevarius. No offense, SJ, but if what Doug told me is true, he's going to have it coming.)
And in keeping with the rules...
**EPISODE SPOILERS BEGIN**
I sort of wish I hadn't listened to Thomas Revor's reading at the Gathering, not because of the reading itself, but because it was less of a surprise. I'll know better at Gathering '99. "The Rising" part one was not as high on action as "typical" episodes, but that was necessary. It opened up some possibilities...and I'm late for class! Darn it!
**EPISODE SPOILERS END and Mandi runs to get to Physics!**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 08:23:08 AM
IP: 144.175.17.40
THEY PROMISED!! THEY COUNTED DOWN!! THEY CRASHED!! THEY DELIVERED!! Against all odds. We just have to use the back door right now. Thank you TGS Staff and especially technical support people. We love you.
Would that reference be to The Gathering when Oberon call his children together???
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 06:41:39 AM
IP: proxy-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net
OK, one rule here:
If you're gonna discuss the episode, please place in big letters:
***EPISODE SPOILERS BEGIN***
and
***EPISODE SPOILERS END***
That way you can discuss and people can avoid reading it till they read the ep.
Please continue to use my name as a link till the main site problem can be fixed. Thanx.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 02:26:16 AM
IP: ts50-36.wla.ts.ucla.edu
(Newgoyle backflips into the Comment Room with a shriek of joy, then proceeds to dance around, screaming 'THE RISING HAS BEGUN, THE RISING HAS BEGUN!!)
Whoo-Hoo! The wait is over!
Hey, can we talk about what has happened in the comment room, or will that spoil it for other people? (I remember someone else asking this question a few weeks ago, but I can't remember what the answer was.) Today, everybody will probably head for the archive first, but what about later on, and when Dark Ages and Timedancer start? Just like to know, before I start blabbering away and ruining it for everyone.
Congratulations to the TGS staff for writing a fantastic story.
TTFN!
(Newgoyle dances out the CR door, singing.)
Fleur/newgoyle - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 02:19:36 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Ahhhhhhhhhhh , few thingd feel better than a fix , absence truly does make the heart grow fonder . I have'nt felt such a feeling of satisfaction in ages . The story had all the elements that I look for : developments with Lex , attention to Goliath and Elisa , brewing trouble , insight to the past and all the others which I have missed so much over the past three months .
Well done TGS .
Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 01:00:04 AM
IP: 208.11.41.196
Guys, read the first post. Hit my name to get to the new ep.
DumlaoX
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:56:44 AM
IP: ts50-36.wla.ts.ucla.edu
Hey, Supreme Gargoyle Webmasters! Finding no "current episode" available tonight, I tried to check the archives for the four series and got a "you don't have permission" error message. I presume there is some glitch in the system. Please fix ASAP; I look forward to the new season of TGS.
Thanks,
Chuck Huber
Chuck Huber - [huber@library.ucsb.edu]
Santa Barbara, CA
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:48:29 AM
IP: sel4.library.ucsb.edu
Wow, I'm tenth. Cool!!! Looks like the gargolyes-fans.org site is SLOWLY being resurected.
*rejoices, and gives free drinks to all*
Bar Tender - [new_bar_tender@geocities.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:20:53 AM
IP: ppp38-9.ght.iadfw.net
{Someone finds a note taped to the CR door}
It's a lot more crowded in here then I would have suspected. I'm the ninth person in here. I think.
Lurker
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:16:42 AM
IP: lax-hras1-12-220.thegrid.net
Traveller: It's Shang Tsung, actually, but here's you another cookie.
** Hands him a chocolate chip cookie, as per request. **
Now, can anyone guess what movie Kitainia was inspired by? Hint: it's a made-for-TV animation. Good luck.
Doug
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:14:25 AM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
>Doug- Why unless i'm mistaken that would be Shang Sung. And that even the correct spelling!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:12:20 AM
IP: 207-44-124.ipt.aol.com
BEHIND THE SCENES: Oct. 5th, 1998
Murphy's Law- if anything can go wrong, it will.
Such was the case today. Actually we had everything all set for the big premiere tonight. The site was ready a day early. The pics were done weeks ago and the episode itself was done 2 months in advance. Everything was uploaded yesterday and all we had to do was wait for midnight to roll around in order to do this.
Unfortunately, Chris had to do something to his server.
As a result, the files are there in his jaz drive and he's in the process of doing a transfer from one server to another. Until that time, the only part of TGS that was working was the comment room.
Thank goodness we have backup servers for such an emergency.
Thanx to Patrick Toman, 1/3 of the website trio, he had access to the backup site and uploaded all we needed in a simple text format. Including The Rising part 1.
Such is the life of a TGS staffer. You prepare early. Disaster hits. You panic. You fix the problem. You save the day. You go to sleep happy.
I'll announce when the main site is back up. Actually, the comment room itself will do that. Once the pics come back, you know the main site has returned.
Till next time... enjoy season 2.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:11:33 AM
IP: ts50-36.wla.ts.ucla.edu
Firestorm: The link I'm using is:
http://www.region3.com/gargsaga/rising1.html
Type it in or click my name to see the great first episode of the second season. Enjoy!!
Kitainia
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:11:04 AM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
>FS- Try going to the text site the link to the story there works. I know because I'm looking at the new TGS story right now!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:10:21 AM
IP: 207-44-124.ipt.aol.com
** Doug jets in and hands Traveler a chocolate chip cookie.**
You are correct, I was imitating Mortal Kombat. Another cookie to the person who knows what character I was quoting.
(Sorry, right now I'm a little high on life.)
That's all.
** Doug leaves.**
Doug
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:09:28 AM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
Sorry.
Text only page works.
Fire Storm
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:08:59 AM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
Kitainia: What is the EXACT link you are using to access the story? I keep getting 404 and 403 errors!
Fire Storm
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:08:07 AM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
Um... Could it be the first Mortal Kombat live action movie? Entitled: Mortal Kombat.
I prefer chocolate chip thank you.
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:04:31 AM
IP: 207-44-124.ipt.aol.com
Alright, Eighth. Whatever.
Kitainia
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:03:04 AM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
Wait...
Can you guys view the story? I get a 404 error on the story and a 403 (Access forbidden) on just about everything else.
Fire Storm
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:02:42 AM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
** Kitainia dances merrily into the Comment Room. **
Lady Mystic: Now, and for all time so I will not be confused, on the Internet I am Kitainia.
6th!!
(Cyber-cake to whoever can guess where the inspiration for the following came from.)
The Rising has begun! Oh joy!! Oh rapture!! **The sounds of hoofbeats and wild howling and baying suddenly echo from outside the CR, seeming to be heading its way.** Oh no!!
**The Unseelie Ride comes charging into the CR, panicking fans and posters running out of its way as they ride through. Kitainia picks herself up and races after them, clicking her anklets together to call the other Ravens. They all will read the first episode of the new season, and in future RP Blaise-isms maybe kick some Unseelie bootie. :) **
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:02:24 AM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
Seven works.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 5, 1998 12:01:56 AM
IP: proxy-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net
Oh well Sixth! I guess then!
Traveler - [Traveler45@usa.net]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:59:00 PM
IP: 207-44-124.ipt.aol.com
Just me again.
Word of wisdom in the future: Don't do a major software or hardware upgrade the day you need your computer desperately. Happened WAY too many times to me, and I had to rush, or use another computer to finish the job (If I could!).
Is everyone waiting for Ragnarock?
I wish I knew how many people were hitting the site....
Sorry if I seem a little edgy.
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:58:14 PM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
NUMBER FIVE! All right! And a brand spanking new season of TGS to boot!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:57:52 PM
IP: 207-44-124.ipt.aol.com
** A storm of glowing lights, streamers, and fireworks appears on the viewscreen. In the center of it all is a man dressed all in black, yelling "It has begun!! It has begun!! It!!! Has!!! Begun!!!" Lightning flashes, revealing the man to be Doug Elder. **
Cyber-cookie to whoever can guess what movie I just copied in celebration of The Rising.
5th!!!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:57:34 PM
IP: hd79-020.hil.compuserve.com
TGS Staff: Sorry to Jinx you those many months ago by saying that the server couldn't handle that many people. Maybe I caused the problems <eeep!>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:51:15 PM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
Forth
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:49:23 PM
IP: dhcp173.visitus.net
3rd. :)
AotN
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:42:35 PM
IP: dialup-103-9.sssnet.com
2nd . (Sanity returns)
Brian
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:40:56 PM
IP: 208.11.41.196
October 5th, 1998
A day that will never be forgotten
The stage has been set
The players are ready
Prepare for Ragnarok!
Gargoyles: "The Rising, part 1"
Story idea by Todd jensen & Kathy Pogge
Written by Kathy Pogge & Todd Jensen
Illustrations by Flynt.
(NOTE: due to server difficulties, hit my name to get to the other site housing the episode.)
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, October 4, 1998 11:39:46 PM
IP: ts50-36.wla.ts.ucla.edu