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Even better! What if Demona happened to come across the twins and they had a private talk? What would they say?
SOROW
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:45:40 PM
IP: usr2-1-dialup46.mix1.irving.cw.net

*a whip cracks from outside the room, followed by the spraying of pepto-bismol* "... and do the hokey-pokey and ya turn yerself about, that's what it's all a-bout!!" HAHAHAHA!!! The smurf's dead! The smurf queen's dead! WHOOHOO!!! *coughs, straightens her hair, and opens the heavy oak doors to the comment room*

Howdy-ho, gang! *zips into the room, clapping her hands* Hmm, Halloween blues? *materializes a whistle in her mouth and a traffic cop hat on her head and starts waving her arms outside the comment room's door* Okay, Joe, back 'er on up!!

*There's a loud BEEP ... BEEP ... BEEP sound of a heavy truck in reverse as it backs up to the comment room's door*

Let 'er rip!!!

*the back hatch explodes open. Within five seconds, everyone in the comment room is up to their waists in everything from Three Musketeers and Babe Ruths to Hershey Bars and Kit-Kats ... except for Aerie, who's nearly up to her chest*

Whoops ... well, the only way we're getting out is eating our way out! *throws Mary Flanders a large loot bag* Everyone, enjoy! (Oooh, another big black box? Curiouser, and curiouser ... *edges slowly towards it*)

Me, I'll be in Queens this Saturday, dressed up 'a la Claudia' from "Interview with the Vampire". Okay, so I'm not like 10 years old (at least in the movie version), and I'm not a blond, but I'll be wearing a 19th century lacy dress with my hair done up in little curls, high black boots, pale skin, and adhesive-fangs (the little cap-kind that fit over your incisors, so they look like real chompers) :) If anyone sees me walking around with a bunch of other kids my age, dressed up as black punk vampires, drop by and say hello (make sure you can run fast, though) *wink*

>Coyote< Yeah. What annoys me the most is that sports are way overrated at my school. I have no problem with sports; they're pretty cool, but they're just not some ppl's thing, and when they yank money from drama club or the literary magazine for football ... yeesh. It really sucks.

>Heather< Pretty kewl :) Knowing another language really helps ya get around; it must be fun learning it with your fam instead of from a textbook, though that can be okay, too :)

>Sevarius Jr.< Oh, hey, so you guys worked everything out, or are you still recovering? *wink* ... you ... burned her hair off? Wow, wonder what you guys do when you two are REALLY ticked off at each other :)

Reminds me of the time I set fire to my folk's coffee table ... but I won't get into that *turns red*

>Doug< Okies, last time I did an RP was my first visit to Cyberspace over a year ago. So if we don't have it in this room, where does it take place? *it's hard reading all these RP-related posts in here; there's at least a bijillion*

*puts on a pepto-bismol-filled flamethrower, just in case, and makes a discreet exit*
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:44:31 PM
IP: spider-wi024.proxy.aol.com

2 Things: In "Out of Joint:Pt 2" Brooklyn says to Broadway and Angela,"I'm really proud of the both of you guys. You raised a great kid!" Anyone know what he might have meant? And does anyone think Brooklyn and Demona will ever have a private discussion about how Brooklyn no longer hates her?
SOROW
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:34:39 PM
IP: usr2-1-dialup46.mix1.irving.cw.net

Coyote: No, my dad isn't very religious... He hasn't gone to church in ages. The most he does is say prayer occasionaly before meals and rant about my use of certain colorfull exclamations. ;) He gets these weird ideas about Satanic Halloween, etc., from my grandfather.

Gorebash: I second Doug's request. I don't know what more to say. Just go, take a look, and stop by the S8 comment room, e-mail him, something.
Entity
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:34:11 PM
IP: ely-oh3-32.ix.netcom.com

Coyote: That's okay, whenever you get around to it.

Now please, everyone, let's go and see what we can do to help Gorebash. He needs it. Badly.
Kitainia
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:31:00 PM
IP: dallas-dnzon-105.tx.compuserve.net

So when are the other series gonna start again? Huh, huh? I really really really wanna zi---uhm, know.
-Mystique ~8^)
Mystique - [u don' wanna no]
OK sitie, Sout Dakota, Canada
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:17:43 PM
IP: 38.26.157.53

Halloween Costumes: I'm planning to go as Man-at-Arms from the old He-Man cartoons. Kitainia will be the Sorceress. Not sure what the rest of the Ravens will be dressing up as.

Now everyone, I must tell you about a more serious topic. Please go to www.s8.org right now and read what Gore has written. He has become really depressed and angry at himself about something, and as his friends and fellow travelers on life's journey, the only decent thing we can do is help him get out of it. You'll understand when you see the page. Please, all of you, help him.
Doug Elder - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 09:13:05 PM
IP: dallas-dnzon-105.tx.compuserve.net

**Coyote re-enters the room normally.**

Well, I ditched that pair of pants and summarily burned them on a convenient leaf pile fire.

Mary Flanders, Entity: Well, I didn't actually mean per se begging. Whenever I get a chance to give candy on Halloween, I *always* dress for the occasion. Last year I couldn't do much, but I managed to put together a "rotten, decaying corpse" outfit from some tattered clothes and a *very* creative makeup job (suffice to say it involved theater makeup, stage blood and three layers of torn Kleenex). The previous time I got to give candy, I dressed up as the Marlboro Man (a fully denim outfit -- jeans, jacket and cowboy hat. A friend even loaned me an empty Marlboro pack for effect. An interesting costume, considering I'm a non-smoker.).
I don't know about Satanic ... but I do recall that Halloween comes from a pagan holiday (Sam Hain), and I knew that before it was mentioned in "The Rising." Just by chance, Entity, is your dad a deeply religious person? Just curious, you don't have to answer just to sate my curiosity.

**Coyote leaves, but starts jigging again.**

Aw no, not again!!

**Yep, again. There's another Smurf colony in his pants.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, October 25, 1998 08:43:15 PM
IP: 207.91.254.50

Halloween> Heh, the last time I went out trick-or-treating was something like five years ago. My father is one to believe in the supposed Satanic elements of the occassion. Seems he thinks dressing up like monsters and the like on that day is a way of worshipping the Devil. Forget the fact that there are also little girls who dress up as ferries and kids in Ninja Turtle outfits... ;) Ah well.

After reading a comment in the S8 room, I decided I'd give my opinion on the matter, but since its TGS-related, I figured I'd lay it down in here. :) Basically, it had to do with the let-down many of us felt at the revelations given in "Avalon". I know that the motives behind the Weird Sisters making Demona and Macbeth immortal were a major disappointment. They did all that just so the Archmage could have a pair of flunkies to use as cannon fodder? Here's an idea: What if the Archmage/Weird Sisters used Demona and Macbeth in "High Noon" and "Avalon" only because they were readily available? Archmage says, "I understand you've got a pair of 1,000 year-old immortal warriors under your spell...mind if we borrow 'em for the attack on Avalon?" Later, the real reason why the Weird Sisters brought Demona and Macbeth together and made them immortal could be revealed. One word: Madoc. If you think about it, it wasn't necessary for the Weird Sisters to try to make the two allies in order to "recruit" them for the Archmage. And why the part about only being able to die if one killed the other? Seems to me they wanted them to work together.
Entity - [cotleur@ix.netcom.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 08:24:05 PM
IP: ely-oh4-30.ix.netcom.com

*Creeps in in her burgler outfit*

Coyote>sadly, I won't be dressing up this Holloween. My mother thinks High school kids shouldn't be out wearing costumes and demanding candy. WAH! And it's embarrassing for me to be handing out candy to ppl my age and hearing them say, "Hey, don't I go to school with you?" It really sucks!!!!!!!

*pulls her loot out of it's hiding place. throws it over her shoulder and runs out*
Mary Flanders
Sunday, October 25, 1998 08:11:43 PM
IP: reqb-020.ucdavis.edu

**Coyote enters the room, a bit down looking.**

Hi all. Sorry for my seeming depression, but I was just reading the Sunday comics in my local paper. I don't know how many of you get the strip "Funky Winkerbean," but the strip they ran today involved a band director mourning the loss of his program (the school district cut music entirely, but pumped more money into athletics). As a bando, I nearly cried when I read the strip. In my time I've seen too many band programs be destroyed by budgetary mismanagement, as school districts put their focus more into athletics than into the arts. It's sad, really.

**sheds one tear, then composes himself.**

All right, time to make some replies:

Deuce: You're kidding, that line came from "Touched By an Angel?"
And it would seem to me that when Dingo called those chips "buggers," I don't think it was the way you thought he said it (I believe it would have been "buggerers" if that were it.)

Wilek: Well ... you'll just have to read the fic on Halloween, won't you? ;) Anyway, let's just say that there is an immense percentage of magic going into Rosanna's implant (as there was that went into Samson's implants, but that's another story for another time).
Boy, I've been receiving a lot of compliments lately about my handle ... maybe one of these days I'll let slip on how I came up with it.

Kitainia: ARRRGH!! **pulls out hair, composes self.** I found the individual sketches I made of Clan Austin, it'll take me a while to get it together because of my RL commitments but it will get done, come hell or high water!!

Theresa: Interesting ... back east here in the stores, you can buy ceramic Halloween luminarias for about $6 apiece. They're usually shaped like paper bags, but they have weird patterns cut into their sides to make them glow like Jack O'Lanterns or such. Truth be told, I've never had the pleasure of experiencing authentic Southwestern luminaria displays.

Christine: I suppose ... but I wasn't even thinking of Delilah when I named him. The way I figured it, Angela named him Samson as a tribute to her father, naming her son after a prominent Biblical figure. Oh well ...

MrNoying: Sorry 'bout that. But consider this: I regularly listen to the tape in my car to and from work. (Changed the pace today, though. I was playing Meat Loaf's second album, "Dead Ringer.")

Heather: Kewl, another military brat! Both of my parents were 20-year Navy vets (both retired), but I spent my time with my mom around the Pacific Rim. And I too was born outside the US (Kanagawa-Ken, Japan). However, I don't really remember too much about my time in Japan; we came back to the States when I was about 2.

NEW TOPIC: What's everybody dressing up as for Halloween? This year I'm planning to do a weird Alien Hockey Player costume: my Red Wings jersey, a Jason mask I bought last year and one I'm planning on buying which is nothing but a pair of glow-ing-the-dark eyes. Should be interesting. Something to wear while I'm working on my Gathering costume.

That's all 4 me. I'm out.

**Coyote leaves the room, but before reaching the door his body starts moving spasmodically. He does a wild jig out the door, having now discovered that a colony of Smurfs had built a nest in his pants.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, October 25, 1998 07:28:56 PM
IP: 207.91.254.31

MrNoying: Sorry if we alienated you, we just thought this thing should happen outside the comment rooms. If you want to help (I will speak to Keith and Shauna about their earlier attitudes towards you), be my guest. Glad to have you along in our nocturnal army. :) Pick whatever base to attack you deem appropriate as we continue. As for your own RP saga of the bomb in the comment room, I have no problem with whatever way you want to end or continue it. Just please be advised that because of the guideline violation, I at least cannot accept it as part of our ongoing saga. Sorry for that attitude and any problems you have with it. In any case, welcome back to our madness. :)
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 06:50:04 PM
IP: hd47-187.hil.compuserve.com

Hello, everyone. * yawns * I'm not feeling good today. I went to sleep at 9:00 P.M. last night ! I usually go to sleep on the weekends at 3:30 A.M. !

Fire Storm > You do !? Tell me , tell me.
Everyone > don't forget to watch DS9 tonight ! "Take me out to the Holosuite". Your going to see Quark in a baseball uniform !! * laughs *
Doug > Well, you have been around. My famliy was military mostly for 22 years. My dad anyway.

Airie ( Sorry, I can't spell tonight. Tired ) > I was born in Herrington , Holland. I used to live in Germany . And I knew German when I was 2. And I hardly knew any English. ^^
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 05:33:44 PM
IP: 203-205-64.ipt.aol.com

Mandi I actually live in Albuquerque sixty miles south of Santa Fe. In the downtown/Country Club/Old Town area (they're all next to each other)
Many of the houses HAVE to put out the luminarias.
The city has all their buses run the tour of the area for about three hours. I lived right where the tour started and would often help the traffic cop direct everyone into the proper tour channel. There was a set direction so traffic would be oneway that evening. Christmas and the Ballon Fiesta are really big events out here.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 04:51:47 PM
IP: proxy-131.iap.bryant.webtv.net

**Jim Noying has followed the others to the place called Just Guns, and asks if he can help. He's given a stern, "No way! You brought danger to the chatroom, so you can't be in this story!" He replies with a "Huh?"**

Doug-Whoever said that it was THIS chatroom a bomb was going to placed in? Come on, give me a break! It's not my fault I started something and nobody followed it up! Yeah, a giant trap door opens up beneath me and I fall somewhere. No one even asks if I landed without breaking any bones or anything... Hmmph. Then I had to go off and do SOMETHING with that loose thread... But um, if it'll let me back into the story, could we just say the bomb went off yesterday, in a different chatroom? I'll try to avoid that sort of thing from now on...

Firestorm- Yep, I've seen that batman ep. as well. But no, the first time I saw Talon in his more panther like form, I immediatley thought of the Tyger Tiger episode. There's just so many similarities! Perhaps Michael Reeves was just feeling lazy when he wrote that garg. episode...

Coyote- Blast it! Now those Tommy songs are stuck in my head! aaarg!

Sevarius Jr.- Hope your forgiven...
And tell your dad he'll never win on those batman eps. They came before his spotlight in gargoyles. However, if he was... Enjoying his gentics career before '90, he might have a case...

**Jim Noying puts on his best puppy dog face, and waits to be forgiven for putting the room in danger...**
Robby "Mr. Noying" Bevard - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Sunday, October 25, 1998 02:33:21 PM
IP: spider-we053.proxy.aol.com

**Mandi comes in with a group of other girls from her dorm, being the most awake one since she was completely sober the night before. The others glance around in confusion, as Mandi speaks.**

*yawn* Morning, or should I say afternoon, all. Sorry if I'm not coherent, just recovering from my hall's party last night.

**She turns back to the others** Uh, guys, you had to go right at that last light to get to Denny's. This isn't it. **They shuffle out** Wow, what a night. I'm glad I'm not on cleanup crew.

Wilek: Actually, there was really only one character that smoked at all. And I kind of based the party scenes after most family reunions in Wyoming; whenever my uncles get together, there's always lots to drink. Most of the characters I spotlighted were the Denver group, and they're supposed to be at least semi-delinquent.

As for how everybody inspired me: I don't recall specifics, but I got a few ideas from the RP saga somehow, and a lot of inspiration was inspiration to finish the sucker! It is a rough draft, too, and it's going to get some edits before I update my page and link it. I'm still trying to draw the poker scene.

BTW, did anyone get the in-joke at the end? A bag of virtual Jelly Bellys to anyone who does!

I also think that Umbriel would qualify as Dilbert. Madoc is in the position to be the Pointy-Haired Boss, but he doesn't have the stupidity. Loki would most definitely be Dogbert.

On a similar runaway train of thought, can anyone picture plugging Maeve into the "Secretary with a Crossbow" strip? :)

Deuce: Actually, I recognized "Metamorphosis" from the GFW archive; I remember reading it some time ago, but I don't know if I ever sent feedback. I liked your description, and it gives me a lot to think about for a future fic, which (finally) is going to have a bit with Demona.

Theresa: Funny you should mention luminarias--my college has a tradition in December to place them along the walkways in the quad, which all lead to the central pergola. (We call them luminaries here, but it's the same thing.) I've never been to Santa Fe on Christmas Eve, but judging by how the little quad looks, it must really be beautiful.

Work to do! Later!

**Mandi waves and shuffles out, looking for coffee**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 02:14:29 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Kitainia > re: Shelly -- oh, I wish I could ask if you were kidding, but after hearing about a town that was trying to pass an ordinance requiring everybody to say "heaven-o" instead of "hello," I'm afraid I must believe you, no matter how much I might wish it weren't so! ; )

Coyote > I have a Samson too; with a character named Delilah floating around the Gargiverse, it's inevitable! Mine, though, is the son of Anton Sevarius, and his father tries to save his life by mutating him with homo gigantapithicus (aka Bigfoot). I'm not well-versed at all in matters Biblical, but I was rather proud of the scene in which Samson brings the house down ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:32:24 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

*creeps in*

Aerie>I saw that!!!!!!!Don't even think about getting any ideas sister!!!!;P

*looks around, that pulls in a VERY large bag and puts it in the hiding place with the black box.*

*Creeps out*


Mary Flanders
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:17:01 PM
IP: reqb-017.ucdavis.edu

[Quick post; the long one's later.]

Click my name to see something extremely fun.
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:57:51 AM
IP: tnt-1-85-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Theresa> *evil grin* I was just kidding, honest! :) And I really do love seeing all the beautiful Luminarias every Christmas. There's a lot of 'em where I live too, and they are so pretty. It's like our own little Southwest tradition...Anyways, they're really pretty and pretty cheap to make, so if anyone needs some ideas for Christmas decorations, remember the Luminarias! :)
Ravyn
Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:48:30 AM
IP: svm-ts5-7.c2i2.com

**Our heroes are still in Gubio's living room, preparing for their offensive strike. Sevarius Jr. is staring at the Doom commandoes as they scarf down their latest meal: some 2 year old tv dinners they found at the back of Gubio's fridge. SJ looks at them with disgust.**

Hey, have a little class, huh? You're eating the man into the poor house! I made you with better manners than this.

Ah well. About my girlfriend....well, I told her that Bernadette and I were just good friends, and this was all a misunderstanding...then she kicked my butt. That's okay, she'll forgive me in a couple days. Hey, she forgave me when I burned her hair off that one time! Um...actually she didn't want me to ever mention that...freak sulfuric acid accident...hey, It WAS an accident! Honest!

The Borgias: I always thought they were Italians. We're studying Machiavelli in my Political Theory class, and the ruler of Florence (and Machiavelli's hero) at the time was a guy named Cesare Borgia.

Batman: My dad is reviewing those Batman episodes. He's thinking of a lawsuit for trademark infringement. Unless he and his buddies conquer the world, in which case he'll just have the writers of that show shot.

**SJ is interrupted by the Doom Commandoes, who are noisely eating some sort of moving green slime. "God, that's disgusting! Where did you find that? What? In the back of the fridge? Well don't eat it! It's probably something Gubio forgot to throw out...I don't care if it tastes like chicken, chuck it in the trash! Man, I tell ya, these things will eat anything..."**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 08:39:07 AM
IP: 207-172-45-217.s217.tnt5.brd.erols.com

Well Doug you get the cyber cookie of your choice.
Luminarias it is, although there are those in Santa Fe that insist they be call Firolitos. There is nothing prettier on Christmas Eve and to walk one of the downtown luminaria tours. Literally thousands of bags of sand with candles giving a soft glow and very quiet once the tour busses have left.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 06:45:13 AM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

The outside of the gun shop, not the inside. How could I forget that? Oh well, I'm tired.
Kitainia
Sunday, October 25, 1998 02:09:20 AM
IP: dallas-dnzox-047.tx.compuserve.net

** The screen lights up with the inside of a fully stocked South Austin weapons store called "Just Guns" next door to an Oshman's Sporting Goods and across the street from a gas station, an Eckerds' General Store, and an automobile dealership. Kitainia is standing beside her bike at the curb while everyone else is inside the stores stocking up on stuff they'll need for the coming mission. She begins to speak.**

Wilek: Glad to know we have your support. However, if you want to choose one of the other bases rather than come with us, please feel free to do so. Let me give some general data about each target that's going to be hit.

The UT Underground Citadel: If you come with Doug, the other Ravens, and myself to raid this base, you're pretty much going to be at our whim as to what happens. I think we're the only people here who know the campus well enough to flesh it out (yes, we plan a few episodes on the surface inside several of the various buildings and locales before we go underground), so you'll have to trust us on where we go and all. We Ravens can handle all the delays and dangers ahead (they might include Pastor John's cult, more evil thugs from our past histories, mobs of hurrying students, giant killer squirrels, and another Tower sniper), but we do appreciate the help. Just please read the data on the other two bases before making your decision.

Westgate Mall: This is a real Austin locale, a shopping center that got condemned because the owners went bankrupt, forcing all the stores inside (Bealls, JC Penny, KayBee Toys, Radio Shack, Camelot Music, Dillards, Books a Million, a food court that included Taco Bell, and several others) to give up their locations there. Only the movie theater is still open. In our RP, the complex that was once the mall is now infested with gang members allied with Thailog. They are armed with God-only-knows-what, and whoever goes to the mall can develop the area and ensuing conflict as they see fit. The only guidelines are that it should include the VCN gang as part of the thugs running around, the places above should probably be visited, and you'll have to put up with my old biker pals who are in town to help us out of this mess (Their names are Cobra, Jeeper, Big Al, Bigger Dave, Anne, Suzy, Rick, Ratchet Ralph, Tommy, and Fauline. Personalities those of generic nice guy motorcycle gang members (except Jeeper is a UFO freak, Ralph is a tool-obsesed mechanic, and Rick is like Dana Scully's male clone), armed with chains and various knives, rifles, and handguns. Ask me for more info if you need it) as Doug has decided to send them to the mall along with half of the stormtrooper forces Wilek allocated to us. Other than that, have fun, do whatever you like with the area and action just as long as it stays within the RP rules and at least acknowledges the guidelines above.

The Skyscraper: This whole area can be developed by whoever goes to it however they see fit. Marsh Industries can be whatever kind of bad company you want it to, and the only employee we're contributing is the CEO Roger (who is probably an evil Xanatos-type). Other than that, the building has sixty floors, it's right next to Town Lake, and you'll be accompanied by ten troopers and Clan Austin, a group of Western-movie-inspired gargoyles. Hope Coyote soon posts the pic he's doing of them for WCC so everyone can know how they look (hint hint). If you don't want Clan Austin with you, just attack during the day while they'll be asleep. But if you do want to use them, please ask me and I'll give you more info. Other than that, the whole building mission is yours to develop, allowing you to really get involved in this RP. Just as long as you try to follow the rules. :)

So wherever you people want to go and whatever you want to do, it's up to you. Especially for the second and third bases. Make your decision wisely, and if any of you want to change your minds, there is always time. We would like to know by the time of the next TGS ep, though. That's when we plan to get these missions started.

Further Note to Wilek: We appreciate all the help both you and Miriam can provide. If she can find out anything, please ask her to tell us. Ditto for whatever resources she thinks will be necessary.

Loki as Dogbert: He'd be perfect. After all, they do have the same sense of humor and capacity for pranks. I don't think Ratbert has Loki's joking manner about him.

Mandi: Excellent new fic, it satisfied several issues I was wondering about in your universe. Keep up the good work, looking forward to your next one. Just out of curiosity, how did I inspire you?

Deuce: You know Doug's sister used to be named Shelley. Then she changed her name to Sarah because of ridiculous (IMO) religous issues (Shelley has Hell in it). Maybe that contributed to his liking of your character. Good fics so far, pity they're so short and inconclusive.

Looking forward to the next episode of TGS tonight, but I must sleep now. See everyone later!

** Kitainia waves as everyone comes out of the stores with their equipment. They pile into their vehicles and drive off as the screen goes blank.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 02:08:27 AM
IP: dallas-dnzox-047.tx.compuserve.net

[Wilek, Miriam, Raoul, the Black Ravens, and the Doom Commandoes are getting ready to hit the underground UT campus base along with whoever else is going there. After hearing the dire news, Wilek called his two mutate friends Jake and Teri Laughton and his Halfling friends Anoth Mitaxis and Forfexx Argentum, who are also going to the campus base.] Miriam says her big mysterious organization doesn't know a thing about Thailog and Dark Mage Wilek's BMO. However, this is mostly because this isn't in their jurisdiction and Miriam wouldn't tell me what is. She's prepared to call in some favors from someone she called Jay and get the use of her BMO's very sophisticated surveillance equipment if you like. She also told me that she used to work for the British MI6 organization and there are a few people there who owe her favors as well, one of them being this guy named James, whoever that is. If you need heavy military hardware with hyperspace, warhead, or cloaking capability, the Dark Star can provide it. (I dare anyone here to make this whole thing into a fic cycle.) And you can send the Dark Star stormtroopers wherever you like.

Doug> This is the kewlest RP I've ever been in, and I support your plan entirely. Me, Miriam, Raoul, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, and the Doom Commandoes are here till the end! Hmm, Dogbert as Loki? I'm not sure. Ratbert has a more similar fun-loving and enthusiastic personality.

Coyote the Bando> You know, I've never really thought about it before, but that *is* a kewl name. Also, don't worry about Samson. Greg's version, or an interpretation of such, was in TGS Timedancer "Requiem", and they're easy to tell apart. They look different, dress differently, and have different personalities. The TGS Samson has no cybermechanics either. Speaking of which, how will Rosanna's faceplate stay on her when she transforms? Surely the tissue of her face will undergo changes during the transformation, changes that may make the implant inviable. (Y'know, I would submit Raoul and the Doom Commandoes as WCC characters if I thought they could be made to fit into the Gargs universe...)

I read Merlin Missy's "Forever" as well. Some inconsistencies with the history of the Star Trek universe, but they were easy to forget because the story was so good. She implied that Bashir may be descended from Sevarius; I rather liked that. Um, Missy, what's with the "Cool Disco Dan" graffiti thing (or whatever the name was) that was in both "Forever" and "All Through The Night"?

Mandi> I read your new fic. Very good story for setting up characters and location and such. The Denver and Laramie clans drink, smoke, cuss, and gamble *entirely* too much IMO, but other than that, they sound like a pretty fun lot. I was very honored that you mentioned me as a source of inspiration. Did I inspire any particular aspect of your story, or were you simply inspired by my mere presence? :D

Hey I've been thinking of becoming an honorary member of one of the clans represented here in the CR's. Any suggestions?

GREG WROTE AN ANIMATED MIB EP?!?!?! I MUST SEE IT NOW! I loved the movie, and I've been dying to see the cartoon, now more than ever. (Besides, I've had my suspicions about Miriam...)

Brian Rolling Calf> Don't worry, the Doom Commandoes aren't sentient. Actually, they have no brain as we know it; they are run by self-contained battle computers. And good luck with the hurricane.

Carolyn re killing the Smurfs> Remember, hose the Smurf Queen down with Pepto-Bismol and make her do the Hokey Pokey. I committed that to memory just in case.

FS> With that much duct tape, my friend, I'm afraid your PC is a crater waiting to happen. Y'know, I've often suspected that Sevarius Sr. has had behind-the-scenes involvement with many Batman eps.

Mr. Noying re replies> What I do is open the submit form in a new window, read through the CR, and type my replies as I encounter things I want to reply to. For RP, I wait till I'm done typing content, then look back at what's happened in the RP and type the next chapter. It's not really as hard as it seems.

Oh, I forgot to mention last time: The Doom Commandoes' cybermechanical arms have micro-replicators, so they can dematerialize and re-materialize into whatever weapon or tool they want. What I described was the default configuration. Also, the ends of their tails are equipped with cybermechanical appendages as well, of which the default configuration is a diamond-tipped jackhammer for the garg cyberdemon and diamond drills for the garg imps. Well, lock and load, lads and lasses, we're going underground. Hmm, Miriam said something earlier about having to change into something more functional. I wonder--YIYIYIYI! [Miriam comes out in a form-fitting black body suit with about a zillion pockets to hold her various weapons. "Is there a problem, Mr. Nereus?" she asks. "I once worked for the jade operations department of my organization; this was my uniform. It's far more suited to this manner of work."] Umm...whew...ok, whatever helps the mission. o_O [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, October 25, 1998 01:02:27 AM
IP: tnt-2-132-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

*** Deuce enters, stepping softly as to avoid waking anybody up ***

Hey everyone. I had the coolest day today: more Thankgiving dinner! My mom's side of the family (the small side) was out of the country (in Arizona, actually) last Mon., so I'm stuffed with turkey and pie AGAIN. Mmm....

Carolynn> (Re: Language in Gargoyles) I think Dingo said "buggers" in that Dreamtime episode, when referring to the little chips in the Matrix. Last time I checked, I got in trouble for saying that in front of my little brother.

Coyote & FireStorm> I heard a neat quote on TV the other night. "I have a hearing impairment, but I may just be ignoring you." *holds up cyber-cookie* Any guesses where? (Hint: CBS Sunday night... oops, I just gave it away).

LION KING 2 ON TUESDAY! YIPPEE! But I'm renting it on Friday, so as usual I'm out of the loop for a while.

Doug> Actually... *grins sheepishly*... that was the WHOLE fic. Kinda. Actually, "Vignettes" is just the best parts of old fics I've written, culled from the trash that results whenever I try to write something huge. And some just stand alone. The name "Shelley" just popped into my head, but I'm glad you like. (P.S. I posted Vignette I about thirty seconds ago. It's a stand-alone, with NO Gargoyles characters. It also has legal babble.)

Well, good-bye. See everyone on Monday! *** Tiptoes out ***

*Looks back at disjointed post* Whoa, can you tell I'm tired?
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Alberta, Canada
Sunday, October 25, 1998 01:29:24 AM
IP: ppp208.connect.ab.ca

Actually, the batman episode was one about some wacko farmer that was mutating farm animals and his daughter.
Tyger Tiger was one I didn't even think of.
What about the Man-Bat?
Or, hell, Killer Croc?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:56:43 AM
IP: dhcp166.visitus.net

Split yourselves up, not ourselves. Sorry about that.
Doug
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:41:51 AM
IP: dallas-dnzol-015.tx.compuserve.net

** The screen lights up with a view of Alex "Gubio" Cleary's large and crowded living room. Wilek and Miriam are sitting on a windowsill, Raoul and their other mutant friends on the floor beneath. Brian, Aerie, Fleur, and Seri are sitting on the large blue couch, with Jammer and Linnet on the floor beside them. Stephanie, Keith, Shap, and Shauna are standing against one wall next to all the gargoyles of Clan Austin, Lisa's ten in-town biker buddies, and several Dark Star stormtroopers. Around one large table off in a corner, SJ is grimacing as his newest creations eat Gubio out of house and home. Kitainia glares at him from her seat at the table while Lathrop and Orion look on shaking their heads. Boris and a tall shapely and sharp-featured Hispanic dressed in jeans, a black Megadeth shirt, and spike-heeled black leather boots wearing her black hair in a long French braid and carrying an assault rifle in addition to her green backpack whose eyes shimmer with amber light stand near the front door. Doug, having stolen Gubio's favorite easy chair, is reclining and stroking Mist. **

First, let me introduce our newest Raven, Elena Ruiz. (The Hispanic woman takes a bow.) She has been The Bore's girlfriend for a month now, which is why he stopped hanging out with us for a while. Now that we've all gotten to know her well (and added her reformed anti-paladin character as well as Boris's ranger to our growing Saturday night AD&D group), she is a new active Raven. Her shooting skill and the fact that Lathrop is developing her latent Halfling magic skills (her mother was a mysterious female Trickster) should come in handy for the battles ahead. Let me make a few replies, then I'll get back to RP.

Dilbert Meets the Unseelie Court: I agree that Dilbert should be Umbriel. I think Dogbert would be Loki, Catbert Grimalkin, Maeve Alice, Morrigan Tina (she seems stressed out to me), George Wally, Evil Lex as the Garbage Man, and Garlon as Ted the Generic Guy. I'm not sure who would play The Boss. Maybe Herne, he has the horns but I don't think he has the stupidity.

Green Baron: I always thought the Borgias were Italian. If you're right, I need to speak to my stepbrother Marco about where his hero came from.

Note to MrNoying: One of the rules I posted for this RP saga was that we would never bring the battle to the Comment Room. That way, things would be safer and not involve people who didn't want to join in the action. So, since your RP disregards that rule, it's not going to be regarded as a part of ours. Not by me at least. Sorry.

Heather: Well if you want someone who's been to exotic places, I'm your man. I was born in Houston, raised in Santa Fe (NM), went to middle school and the first two years of HS in Taipei Taiwan with my trade rep stepfather before returning to the states to finish HS in Beaumont and come to college here. Taiwan was a very intriguing place, lots of neat stuff over there. Ask me and I'll tell you all about it next post.

Deuce: Catchy beginning to your new fic. (It is the beginning, right?) I like the name you gave to Alexander's love interest. I like seeing characters with love interests, period. That's one of the main reasons I enjoy reading Christine and Spike's work. :) BTW, some people have been asking me by e-mail why I don't have more love interests stuff in my own fanfic, besides Laura and Agony. If any more of you people are lurking in here, be advised. Soon I will have more love interest stuff. Including Seth coming to terms with the loss of a woman he thought he didn't care about (this will be a plot point for "End to the Rage"), him becoming more friends with Demona (no, they won't go as far as some people think. In my universe, Demona wouldn't be caught dead falling for a human), and a Timedancer story where Brooklyn finds out just who Changeling picks for her husband (this will be before he meets Sata) while having to join her, Samson, Nudnik, Graeme, Arianna, and the mysterious VJON on a quest of some kind. All this is ahead, currently I'm still working on the New Olympians one. (I just wrote the UN arrival scene and introduced Terry's mother.)

Invasion America: I like that new series, it has excellent characters and plot. Sergeant Romar is yet another of the strong woman who's influencing Laura's character development, ditto for those good villains Konrad and Gordon influencing my development of Mackovic. (Yes, one day I will reveal the whole story behind him.) And David and Sonia make great heroes, not to mention a cute couple. (grin) WB cutting out an ep is a bad sign for the show's hopefully bright future.

Mandi: Excellent new fic from you. Keep up the good work. Especially good development on Sheridan and Maddie. Glad I could provide you with inspiration for this one (though I would like to know how).

SJ: Good luck with your girlfriend. (grin)

The Whos Tommy: Great play. I love it personally, as do all the Ravens. "We Ain't Gonna Take It" is part of our group's theme music.

Brian: I'll miss you, man. Hope the hurricane doesn't hit you too hard. If you'll check back in our postings, you'll see that Sevarius Sr. mutated the four guys we captured into giant flying troll-monsters using a metal serum-carrying mosquito and they escaped. (shoot!) As for where these guys are getting their power, well, it's becoming more and more clear that Thailog has access to a huge amount of weapons and allies for whatever his evil plans are. So far Gubio's only discovered his plans in Austin, not any other plots he may have. If this thing goes on as long as the Ravens and I are planning for it to, we may one day find out.

BTW, I'm thinking of bringing the RP battle with Thailog and DMW to Taipei after we take care of their plans in Austin. After all, Thailog does seem to have a lot greater power and number of allies now, so he could go anywhere. Right now I think we ought to do this RP in six chapters- 1 is Austin (what we're in now), 2 San Antonio, 3 Santa Fe, 4 San Francisco, 5 Taipei, and 6 Thailog's Top-Secret Fortress (wherever it ends up). There'd be an interlude between each chapter covering the journey to the next spot. I know this could make it go on for a while, but that is the idea. :) If any of the people involved in the RP don't like this, please let me know. I would like a vote as to whether we should institute it. Remember, the aim here is to have fun while posting and enjoy ourselves. And of course we would follow the rules the whole way. Everyone else support this plan?

Theresa: Those brown candle bags are called Luminarias, right? I should know, I lived in Santa Fe, New Mex for three years and went to most of my elementary school there.

Okay, that's everything for now. Let me get Gubio out here to tell us what he found in those files he decrypted. Yo, Cleary-Tron!!
** Gubio walks out of a nearby doorway, grimaces at the chuckling Doug, shakes his head at how crowded the room is, then advances to where he can get everyone's attention. "Okay, guys," he sighs, holding up a wad of papers. "This is a summary of what I found. It appears Thailog, Sevarius Sr., and Dark Mage Wilek, as well as at least three unnamed other bad guys, have joined forces in a plot to take over the world. I don't know how they plan to do that, the files didn't say. I did learn however that their allies with bases in Austin include not only Gulliermo and his Ninjas, but also Pastor John's Ultimate Judgement cult, the Barreo Mafia and Suma Yakuza crime families, and Kitainia's psycho clone Asil. The thugs we encountered the other day seem to be but minor operatives of a very far-reaching organization. Wilek, I suggest you ask Miriam if she knows anything about this or if her own Big Mysterious Organization can find something out. We need all the information we can get here, ppl! In the meantime, I found out Thailog has three bases here in Austin where he's keeping significant data and goods, as well as soldiers. I don't know what he's planning, but we have to take those bases out as soon as possible. One is a huge underground citadel beneath the UT campus, one is the condemned complex of buildings that used to be Westgate Mall and is now the VCN's main hangout, and the third is a large sixty-floor skyscraper downtown that is registered to some company called Marsh Industries. I haven't been able to find very much about it on the Net, it sounds very hush-hush. Roger Marsh is the CEO's name. The decrypted files gave me full schematics for each base, as well as location and some idea of what those who go to the base will be up against. Doug, you're the boss here. How you gonna split us up?"

Doug taps his chin and considers for a moment. "Well, we have to oppose Thailog here, since the cops don't have the skills we do. So we can't expect any help from them. We'll have to get Thailog and his bases ourselves. Duh. Okay, here's the plan. Ravens, we're headed for the base under the campus. The rest of you, split ourselves up as best you see fit to handle the other two. Lisa's biker buddies will go with whoever's headed for Westgate, Clan Austin will join whoever's breaching the skyscraper. If any of you want to come with us to the base under the campus, please let us know so. We do have to hit these bases simutaneously, though, so we can get Thailog by surprise. Our objectives are number one: get as much information as possible from computers, files, and the like on what the bad guys might be up to. 2. Take down the bases and as many of the enemy inside as you can. 3. If you can get Gulliermo and Jose, you guys who are going to Westgate, please do so. I'm not expecting Thailog or any of his really big guns or top allies to show, let's hope they don't because we may not be ready for them yet. Okay, people, let's get going. Next stop, the local weapon shop Just Guns so we can get resupplied. Then it's on to our targets. Hooah!" Everyone nods their approval of the plan. As they all split up and begin to head out, the screen image fades away. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:39:41 AM
IP: dallas-dnzol-015.tx.compuserve.net

**Jim Iza Noying enters the room, followed by his sister, Kari Kanbea Pest. He has decided to show her the room, so she'll get off his case for spending so much time in it.**

As far as the WB is concerned here... It comes on Sunday mornings, so I won't be able to make an honest comment about them skipping the Invasion America episode until tommarrow. But, since I know in advance, I must say, that really #@%!$$ sucks! I needed to tape episode 5! Pooh...
I agree, Men In Black:The Animated Series is very good. And Greg might be part of the reason why.

Coyote-My copy of Tommy is a '96 remake, or compilation, I'm not sure which, that is supposedly true to the Who's original vision.
Also, don't be too upset about having Sampson as a character. Anyone reading yours SHOULD be able to tell the difference, and if not, you can always start calling him by some annoying nickname. 8)

I'm guessing the Batman ep. referred to earlier is Tyger Tyger, an episode written by Michael Reeves that involves a red haired scientist who creates a large black panther named Tygris, who looks a lot like Talon, sans wings. Am I right?

Brain-Thanks for the glasses, but unfortunatley, the problem my alter ego suffers has nothing to do with his vision, he just has the attention span of an eight year old. His sister will testify on this, as she's in the room now.

**"Yep, my brother Jim is a real idiot. It's probably my fault. I hit him in the head too many times when we were kids. At first I thought he'd outgrow being distracted by shiny things, but now he's 22! Sheesh!"**

Green Baron- Sorry about earlier, but my cousin decided to play, "Let's see how many times I have to pick up the phone and offline Robby before his eyes start to glow!" Sorry...

Next week will be a good one. A new story on Monday, Lion King 2 on Tuesday... A free week at school for me... Yeah...

Geez, I swear you have to take notes to reply to everybody on this thing! Sheesh!

**Kari grabs her brother by the ear and begins dragging him out. "This proves it, you're spending waaaay too much time online. I'm not letting you on for another five minutes!"
"But sis! I just recieved mail! I gotta read it!" Kari gives her brother a stern look, and he shuts up. But he'll be back...**
Robby "Mr. Noying" Bevard - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:31:01 AM
IP: spider-tn023.proxy.aol.com

Fire Storm: Almost forgot ... the problem with the two different Samsons is that they're not the same guy ... I didn't know that Greg had already created a Samson when I created *my* Samson, so now that I hear there's a Samson that has the same lineage as my Samson, I'm worried that people will confuse my Samson with Greg's Samson, and they're not the same guy!
Ahhh crap ... easy way to tell the difference:
My Samson is the cyborg.
Greg's isn't (I HOPE!!!).

My Samson is an only child.
Greg's is the youngest of three siblings.

My Samson has a mate and egg.
Greg's I have no idea about.

My Samson is Demona's toady right now.
I know for damn sure that Greg's would never be.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:53:08 PM
IP: 207.91.254.41

Fire Storm: She could hear me, sometimes. She has 40% loss in her right ear and 65% loss in her left (needless to say, I spent a lot of time on her right side), and wore a hearing aid in the right one (the only one a HA would help). For a while her dorm rooms were entirely rigged for her by MSU: she had a flashing fire alarm (which was the only thing she kept), a "doorbell" which would flash all of her lights (she got rid of it because people would get their jollies pushing the button on their way down the hallway), and a TTY (which she got rid of basically because she rarely used it: besides that, she bought her own.). I regret that I only had a very limited knowledge of pidgin sign language (though I can cuss in ASL pretty good. ;)), and every time I tried to take a class in it from the college it would fill up within the first two weeks of scheduling (and natch, I wouldn't be able to schedule until the third week, after the handicappers, graduate students and JOCKS.).
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:46:22 PM
IP: 207.91.254.41

Coyote: Your ex was hearing impared? Was she able to hear at all, or did you use sign language to communicate with her?
Lady Mystic and I took ASL for a year in high school, BTW. (Thats where we first met! :)

Zip Drive and Frankenstien: Two words for you: Duct Tape.
Uses: hold that new CPU fan on. (Previous)
Hold the replacement fan for my power suply (Current)
Holding the speakers to the side of the monitor
Holding the speaker power suply wires hard-wired to my hard-drives power suply
Preventing the motherboard from touching the metal case.

(Also, win 3.1 WILL run on a 286 with only 2 meg of ram!)

Eddie: Your buddy has me beat!
(well, the best i ever did was run 3d Studio 4.0 on a 386, 40mhz, 16 mb ram, 20 meg hard drive.)

Shauntel: in 2058, Warp travel is invented and Angela and Broadway's kid Samson is born.

Heather: I know the outcome of Merlin Missy's fan fic series about Elisa, Goliath and DS9... But I am not gonna tell ya!

SJ: Just saw a Batman Cartoon, and I think your father would have been proud!

Heather: The CR lawyer is cannon fodder.
We can kill him.
We can maim him.
We can do anything we want to him.
But he will always come back with those damn supeonas!

SJ: Actually, Greg said that he did some MIB episodes at the Gathering.

Brian: <From LM>: Just don't be a stranger!

Coyote: Samson IS Angela and Broadways kid according to Greg anyway!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:35:52 PM
IP: dhcp166.visitus.net

Sorry, the word is Christmas decorations. New batteries for the stupid keyboard and I still can't hit all the keys.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:27:55 PM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Behave Rayvn. I still have that 98 page joke forward I can sent. (Finger hovers nervously over the send key.) Anyone that desparate for some mildly amusing joke forwards drop me a line and I'll send it. My friend Ann's sister sent them to her and she sent them to me.
You might be from New Mexico if Your Christas decorations consist of 100# of sand and brown paper bags. Cyber cookie to anyone who knows that reference and no Rayvn you already know and that would be cheating.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:26:10 PM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

*whips out a flame thrower for the smurfs, desperately trying to remember what Mary Flanders said about killing smurfs ...*

Coyote< Heh, thanks :)

I know!!! I turned on INvasion America this morning and did a double take. I thought I was nuts; the reason I realized they missed an ep was because I believe (not positive, because I last saw this in June or so when it first aired) it wasn't the ep where doc gets ripped to shreds by the metamorph. My fave part :) Macabre, but fascinating ... wonder what my grandma would think *yikes*
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:08:48 PM
IP: spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com

**Coyote enters the room, a little happier than he usually is after work.**

WOO-HOO!! I have Halloween night off! I can give candy after all (and post my fic!)!!

**composes self**

Sorry. I'm just a little ecstatic over this. The only downer is that I have to work my first Monday in a little over a month ... but it's worth it.

Replies for all!

Wilek: I forgot to mention, I did get the message.

MrNoying: I have two versions of "Tommy," the aforementioned '74 London Symphony recording and a highlights album of the '94 Broadway cast (which contains the awful song "I Believe My Own Eyes."). The London Symphony album lists the last song as "We're Not Gonna Take It/Listening To You;" the highlights album skips "We're Not Gonna Take It" entirely and goes straight from "Sally Simpson" to "Listening To You."

I'm now wondering which version you have, since there's only three others I know of: the '77 movie soundtrack, the '69 Woodstock recording, and the '68 original concept album.

Aris: Oh, NO!! There's a Samson in "Gargoyles 2156?!" Oh, no, nonononono ...

**screams, composes self**

Sorry. I independently created a character named Samson ... who's the only child of Broadway and Angela ... and the clan's second in command ... oh nononono ...

Green Baron: Actually, I would think Umbriel would be Dilbert ... the odd man out among the insanity, y'know?
Oh, and thinking of Attila, the INWO-Cards mailing list I subscribe to just recently had a card come across for the Universal Life Chuch, as a group. He couldn't think of a graphic for the card, so I suggested Attila in a clerical collar holding a Bible as a picture, I hope you don't mind.

SJ: No wonder I liked it so much! I try to watch MIB on a regular basis, it's always a thrill when you get to see a Weisman episode. (BTW, did anybody else notice that the WB *skipped an episode* of "Invasion America?" They promoted one episode all week, then showed the one immediately *after* it. Grrr ...)

Mandi: I'll be sure to do it. Hopefully I will be able to do you right by my writing of your characters.

Brian: Good luck with the hurricane. Hope to see you around these parts soon.

Aerie: My name link goes to my Gallery. She's in Room 4, the pic's title is "I swear, that blue b***h is DEAD!!" She's a bit older than the TGS Ariana ... the pic itself is a scene from one of my fics, which take place about 24 years into the future from TGS.
And thanks for the complement on my handle! Not one I usually hear, it was pretty cool. (BTW, your handle ain't half bad, either! ;))

Must run. See youse.

**Coyote jumps out of the room, over a box turtle in the doorway. Unfortunately, once he jumps over it, it erupts in ... SMURFS!! Oh, no ...**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:02:38 PM
IP: 207.91.254.41

>Coyote the Bando< *kewl name* :) Ack! I can't view your pic! The darn screen says "File not found" Can you send it to me at my email addy, if you can? I LOVE Ariana; the twins are among my fave characters besides Emrys and a few others. I would appreciate it.
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 10:17:00 PM
IP: spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com

>Mary Flanders< *creeps up as she leaves. Peeking around to make sure no one's looking, she deftly taps the black box on its side, then shimmies up a flagpole to hide, just in case* :)

>Traveller< Between school, its literary magazine, being art editor for the school paper *does a jig. YAY! :)*, and two more TGS episodes (then I'm done*keels over in relief* ), I have little time for my own literary universe. I can tell you right now, though, that I have 3 upcoming stories drawn in storyboard form, and two more being written in my head.

SJ< Ouch. I hope everything gets worked out. If she's really, REALLY ticked, I'd suggest taking the heat, admit your sorry, and give her a bit to cool down. *throws you some lucky charms for good luck* :)

Actually, "Damn" wasn't the only "interesting" word in the Gargoyles universe :) Anyone notice in "Temptations" that when Brooklyn takes off his helmet and the bikers see his horns, one of them says, "Hey! It's a friggen monster!" As a little kid, I did a double take and immediately went, "COOL!!!" :P It was a real alien thing to hear on an afternoon television show.

>Heather< You were born in Europe?? Cool! What part? Do you speak a different language? I was born here in a little town called Hawthorne, NJ, and I'm just learning French in school :) It's a start :P

Dang. Don't have time for RPG-ing tonight. Haven't been online since Tuesday or so and have to check my mail *looks at her mailing list* Yikes ... better get to it.

Have a great weekend, everybody!!! :)
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 10:11:27 PM
IP: spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com

Theresa> Thanks for the reminder! I always end up forgetting every year and wondering how come all the TV shows here are coming on an hour later...Arizona in synch with New Mexico?!? Ahhh!!!!! (just kidding...NM isn't really _that_ bad...) ;)

**Ravyn runs out before Starsinger can zap her or something...**
Ravyn
Saturday, October 24, 1998 09:21:31 PM
IP: 207.204.224.35

(Brian enters the CR in casual street clothes worn over overalls with the logo of the Department of Water and Power .)

Well folks , I might not be able to talk to you for a while after tomorrow , as you might know theres a Hurricane heading my way so there might be some damage to the phone and/or power lines . In any case I wo'nt be back online for a while . But the strongest part wo'nt hit us we might be OK .
Firestorm : Glad to know that nothing has happened to either of you two . And tell LM that I'm sorry that I have'nt adered too faithfully to my once a day postage .

RP'ers : Ok , They're not getting their power out of any light sockets so they're either siphoning off of a main power line or they have access to a nuclear power plant , or maybe some other form of power generated by the Dark Mage .

Wilek / SJ : Nice touch , these things are'nt too intelligent or really alive are they , the whole playing God thing makes me uneasy .

Doug / Kitainia : Have'nt those guys broken down yet . Oh , did remember to give them a truth serum before you made them let the cat out of the bag right . If you did'nt their info . might not be all that reliable .

(Brian reaches into his pocket and pulls out a pair of glasses that have the eye pieces made out of cut-to-fit PVC pipe . He hands it to MR.Noying) That should keep you focused .

Cr chat room : I'd go there .

DumloaX : I'm unable to download the MP3s for the theme music . Might there be some way around this . It downloads then it appears not to register on the computer .

(Brian turns and walks out of the room worried abou not being able to post for a week . )
Brian / The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Saturday, October 24, 1998 09:12:22 PM
IP: 208.11.41.195

REMINDER EVERYONE. DAYLIGHT ENDS TONIGHT.
Set you clock BACK. Rayvn please disrard this notice Arizona never changes and will now be in sync with NM once again. :)

Auntie Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 08:24:37 PM
IP: proxy-341.public.rwc.webtv.net

Quickie note before I run out the door.

Green Baron: Before you read the fic, be warned it's not a Dingo fic; it's kind of the explanation of where the heck Madison came from (before crashing into the Harrisons' shed in "Relatively Speaking"). So there's a lot of original characters, mostly from my original clans. BTW, Coyote, several characters that I donated to you are in there if you're curious as to how weird they really are.

Oops. Got to go! Bye!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 07:13:57 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

**Sevarius Jr. walks into the comment room with his head held low.**

I'm kinda in the doghouse. My girlfriend found out about my date with Bernadette :( Oh well, I guess I deserve it.

Wilek: Glad to be of some service. Those Doom things are nasty! Time to kick some evil clone ass!

Hey everybody! I was watching Men in Black (the cartoon series) today, and guess what I saw? In the writing credits, I found out that the particular episode I was watching was written by none other than....Mr. GREG WEISMAN. Well, I guess Greg found work pretty quick!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 06:53:03 PM
IP: 207-172-121-147.s147.tnt15.brd.erols.com

**The Green Baron walks into the CR with soem alarming news. "There is a group planning to bomb the CR, according to MrNoying. According to some information, they are led by some demon called Milam, and he wants revenge on Gorebash for banning him. He may be connected to Thailog and Wilek the Dark Mage, as well as the other clones which are being developed by them."**

Mandi> You're right. Garlon is too stoic, but he does have a mouselike appearance, which inspired Ratbert. Who would be Dilbert, though? My guess is George Harrison.

You have new fanfic? I must read and determine what will become of Dingo, once I have time to read.

**With the new information, the strategy is put on hold, as everyone looks for a way to save the CR from the evil demon Milam**
GreenBaron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Saturday, October 24, 1998 06:42:12 PM
IP: 174-145-3.ipt.aol.com

Hi again,
Well I read Missy Merlin's DS9/Gargoyles fan fic "Forever". It was so cool. I liked how Angela and Bashir had their "outing". Will she make another one ? I hope so !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 03:52:35 PM
IP: 168-91-224.ipt.aol.com

Shauntell Holm> 2158 is the date for the proposed spin off of Gargoyles to be called 'Gargoyles 2158' (it used to be called Future Tense but Greg Weisman changed the title)
2058 will be the hatching date for Samson, third son of Angela and Broadway, and protagonist of Gargoyles 2158.

Pendragon new ep> I wasn't able to review it last week. I will do so next week, alongside the new Gargoyles ep.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 04:36:29 AM
IP: athe530-e066.otenet.gr

I got great news everyone!!!!!!! It's almost Monday!!!!!
ALRIGHT!!!!!!
Sorry just had to let that out.

Shuantell- you can find the Star Trek Encyclopedia at almost any book store; I even found it at Costco. However you can also get a cd-rom version of it...which is much better in my opinion.
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Saturday, October 24, 1998 02:33:56 AM
IP: pm1-20.sma.silcom.com

**Mr. Noying has waited patiently for someone to come to his aid for several hours, but no luck. Seems no one got the transmission. He has to take out the cloaked figure on his own before the site is blown up! But how...**

Coyote-I have the blasted Tommy CD right in front of me, music blaring, and I'm checking over the written lyrics. On the version I have, there is no song like the one you mentioned. "We're not gonna take it" is the last one, and the one with the lyrics you used. But, this is the only copy I've ever heard, I'll assume different versions have different songs... Like the movie... Eeeshh...

I think it would be cool if a chatroom were added to this place. Comment room is great, but it starts getting really big by the end of the week...

Still can't send or recieve pictures! And I've been trying for the last three hours! Arrg! Anybody interested in recieving some snail mail and then posting some of my garg pics, since I can't?

** Mr Noying prepares to save the day, when he overhears something about "Doom Commandoes", and spies several powerful looking critters running around, newly formed. He cusses, and realizes he REALLY needs backup. He breaks his restraints, and throws himself through the wall. It hurts, but has to be done. He runs for seven hours looking for someone to help, and finds the rest of the group. He calls out,"Guys! The place... There's..." And then something shiny catches Mr. Noying's eye, and he completley forgets his urgent message.**
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
SanAntonio, TX, USA
Saturday, October 24, 1998 01:07:39 AM
IP: spider-to022.proxy.aol.com

Wilek: FYI, the reason why is because my mail server went down at midnight last night, and didn't come back up until at least 10:30 this morning. Reason? Don't know, but I think the ISP admin was doing an upgrade to the server, and as usual he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, October 24, 1998 12:20:29 AM
IP: 207.91.254.51

[In SJ's lab, Wilek, SJ, the Scouts, Tuxedo Dole, Raoul, and Fleur watch as the computer finishes the growth cycle of the five wonderful twisted abominations SJ has created. The tubes open and robotic arms haul the still-dormant creatures onto operating tables for cybermechanical implantation surgery.] Heh heh, it won't be long now.

Heather> The CR lawyer is pretty much Preston Vogel's evil near-immortal twin who enjoys making our lives miserable. We've run over him with cars, shot him, crashed TIE Defenders on top of him, and still he's not dead. Ack. (He may be mixed up with Thailog and Dark Mage Wilek somehow...)

Kitainia> I love the Dilbert thing! I'm a big Dilbert fan. I've always wanted to see a Dilbert/Gargs crossover. Man, what a computer system. Gubio is in electronics paradise!

Coyote>Thanks for the info. I like the idea you had in your stories of using = signs instead of " marks for character dialogue. Um, I sent you an e-mail last night and got a return mail with a weird error message: "----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- <1134@i-is.com> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
451 <1134@i-is.com>... i-is.com: Name server timeout
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old" Hmm? THERE'S A CR DRESS CODE?!?! Man. I've never worn a shirt in here, even in my human form. Maybe they make exceptions for gargoyles. (And no I'm not here in person, lawyer. I'm in SJ's lab, so don't even think about it or I'll send what we're making after you!)

Deuce> For future reference, it's "aneurisms". I think...

Shauntell> :) Yes, you spelled it right. The Encyclopedia is still sold at Waldenbooks. In fact, mine is a bit out of date; the currently-sold one is more recent, as is the CD-ROM version available at most electronics stores. A Gargs crossover could be done the way the excellent fanfic "Split Infinities" was done, with Gargs characters somehow finding themselves in the Star Trek timeline. Or it could work the other way around, with a Star Trek ship or crew being pulled into the Gargs timeline. (The best way to do either of these would be to involve Q somehow.) Alternately, if you don't mind not using any canon Gargs characters, you could take advantage of one of the theories I put forth.

[The computer chimes.] Oh, our beautiful nightmares are ready! Have them come in! Everyone, meet the Doom Commandoes! [SJ enters a command into the computer, and the five critters get up off the tables and stalk into the room. One is obviously based on the Cyberdemon from the Doom PC game, except it has gargoyle wings and a tail and back-mounted ion thrusters for flying. The other four are Doom's Imps, but with garg wings, tails, and reversal-jointed legs. They too have ion thrusters. Also, the garg-imps have cyberscopes for left eyes, chainguns for right arms, and industrial crushing claws for left arms. Wilek laughs evilly at the sight of them.] Yes...if these can't help take down Thailog and Dark Mage Wilek, I don't know what can! We'd better join the others. [The Scouts teleport Wilek, SJ, Tuxedo Dole, Fleur, Raoul, and the Doom Comandoes to where Doug, Kitainia, the Black Ravens, Traveler, and Miriam are waiting. The Ravens prepare to attack, thinking that SJ's brilliant creations are evil creatures sent by Thailog and the Dark Mage.] Don't worry guys; these are good monsters. Now, what's happened?
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, October 24, 1998 12:10:45 AM
IP: tnt-2-32-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Oops. Forgot to note a few things in the disclaimer--there's a PG rating at least for language, and if anyone thinks the first poker game is implausible, hey, it happened to me and a friend once. Really. I'm not kidding. That's all.
Mandi Ohlin
Saturday, October 24, 1998 12:07:32 AM
IP: 144.175.17.40

**Mandi comes in, unbothered by fic characters for once.**

Hi all! On the Dilbert bit: Mavis would be Alice's counterpart. (Tina the Brittle Tech Writer is too stressed out to fit.) Somehow, I would see Garlon as Dogbert, though...maybe it's because he's too stoic for Ratbert...

**SHAMELESS PLUG BEGINS**

My real point for coming here: "The Sky's the Limit" (formerly "The House Always Wins") is now done! And sort of posted. That is, it's on my server, but not linked to my page. I'd like some beta reading and criticism, as long as it doesn't merit major changes. :) I got carried away with a few characters. Click on my name to read the fic!

**SHAMELESS PLUG ENDS**

Yep, that was my point for posting. Sorry, but it's tough with the GFW archive down.

**Mandi exits**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 24, 1998 12:04:20 AM
IP: 144.175.17.40

**Coyote pops back in to correct:**

My mistake. When I said that recording was the definitive Tommy, I should have added that Tina Turner in the '77 movie is, in my mind, *the* definitive Acid Queen.

That's all.

**Coyote pops out.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 23, 1998 11:35:27 PM
IP: 207.91.254.51

**Coyote enters the room not quite as weary as he usually is after work.**

God, I love parts-counter shifts. No heavy lifting!!

Some replies ... for your reading pleasure.

Eddie: Nice to see ya around here! The pic was awesome, something to ponder for WCC ... hmm.
And I ain't hiding, no way, no how. Everybody can see my face! It's right behind ... my name link.

Deuce: Thanks for the e-mail, buddy. Quite enlightening.
Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" ... well, I never read it and have no idea where to find a copy, but I did read a short (three sentence) analysis of it in a Writer's Digest column, so I know *of* it.

AotN: Hi back to ya, fellow bando.

Kyryn: I got both copies. I'm going to check the attachments to see whether any of them got corrupted in transit ... if they're both identically intact, I'll just delete one. For that matter, if the first one's intact, I'll delete the second (it's the same thing, right?)

MrNoying: Actually ... hate to rub it in, really, but the song was "Listening to You." It's easy to confuse because it segues from "We're Not Gonna Take It." BTW, just a small rant: I personally consider the 1974 London Symphony recording (with The Who, the Faces, Ringo Starr and Merry Clayton) *the* definitive Tommy. That Broadway one just diluted it down to a shadow of what it was indended as by Robert Townshend (sp??), and I *hate* the song "I Believe My Own Eyes."

Okay, that's all.

**Coyote turns to leave ...**

Oh, before I forget ...

Spike: I have a kinda-sorta TGS-related pic on my site (it's a solo pic of Ariana). Does that count? Considering that it's a scene from one of my fics? It's at:

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/labyrinth/2628/new_gifs/arimourn.gif

See you folks!

**Coyote leaves the room, only to be slapped with a lawsuit by the CR lawyer.**

What the hell's this?

**reads the document**

What?! I thought I explained this, that was "Shirt-In-A-Can!!" I wasn't violating the CR dress code!

**Coyote grumbles as he closes the door behind him.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 23, 1998 11:32:51 PM
IP: 207.91.254.51

*bursts into room breathless* OK, "Betrayal" is up. Finally. I had to borrow web space in a friend's account to get it up, since my personal page is still under construction. Click my name to read a little snippet with no explanation, little plot, and zero back-story. I hope you like it. *dashes out*
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Alberta, Canada
Friday, October 23, 1998 10:12:53 PM
IP: ppp0166.connect.ab.ca

Spike > Cool , Spike . Well I was born in a different continent. Europe , to be exact.

I like that idea that a Gargs/DS9 crossover. But the death part......
Who will live ? I hope it's Elisa ! Elisa and Goliath are my FAVORITE CHARACTERS !
*blushes*
Sorry.

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 10:06:55 PM
IP: 171-93-185.ipt.aol.com

Heather> You're from OKC? Fancy that -- I was born and raised in Edmond, Okla. just up the highway. (I only live in Texas!)

Incidentally, for those artistically inclined in the room, one of the categories in the upcoming Gathering 1999 Art Show is illustrations from The Gargoyles Saga. Just something to think about between now and June 1999!
Spike - [cshayden@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 09:58:00 PM
IP: dal-as1-1244.cmpu.net

Wilek Nereus - Thanks for the data. But, on the eugenics wars, when was earth able to recover from them? Would this info be in the Star Trek Encyclopedia? Are there any book stores where it is still sold?
( Did I spell your name right? ) How would you suggest I do a cross over? The reason I ask is because I've read the story with Gargoyles and DS9. Cool story, very well done. I was wondering if you or someone else could give me some tips. In my fanfictions Goliath and a few members of my clan become immortal. That's why I was also asking for the death dates for each gargoyle so that I would know how to work it all out. And I keep thinking of the date 2058. If I'm guessing right it has something to do with Gargoyles, right? Or am I thinking Star Trek again?
Anyway, I think that's about it. Thanks again.
Shauntell Holm - [sgargoyle9]
Friday, October 23, 1998 09:46:20 PM
IP: spider-wa071.proxy.aol.com

Hi everyone.
Um...what's a CR lawyer ? I never heard of a CR lawyer.
Anyway , Kyryn , your from TX ?!!? * looks shocked and extends hand * Hello neighbor !
I'm from OKC , OK.

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 09:26:28 PM
IP: 204-72-160.ipt.aol.com

**Mr. Noying awakes to find he is chained to something. He's still half unconscious, so his minf isn't working properly. But then he sees a mysterious hooded figure...**

First I don't get to answer the question of where Bob Dole's quote comes from, and now I don't get a chance to name The Who's great character, Tommy Walker. (I recognized the song lyrics immediatley.) Oh well... The song was "We're not gonna take it", though the two best in the story are Pinball Wizard and Christmas... I need to sign on during school apparently.

Speaking of Frankenstein machines.... This here is a Mac Performa 460, with zip drive, CD player, 20 added Meg, two printers, a SupraExpress 56 Sp, four speakers, blah blah blah... But it can't send or pick up pictures over the net! No attachements come here and get through, and none ever get out! Arrg!

I'm surprised no one questioned the song that played at the end of my last encounter on here. It's not something I made up, it's a real, honest to goodness, song about the sound worms make! And hard as it is to believe, it is FAAAAR worse than "Small World After All." Believe me.

**Mr. Noying looks at the hooded figure, something is familiar about the form. He overhears an odd voice mumbling about plans to blow up the comment room, and so Mr. Noying knows the hooded figure must be stopped. He hits a button hidden in his new, stylish red jacket, and a signal is sent out to the others. He hopes they get the message, and aren't out on a date or or messing around with Tuzedo Bob or something...**
Mr Noying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Friday, October 23, 1998 07:21:36 PM
IP: spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com

<Kyryn sticks her head back in>

The end of that last post should have read 'out of'.

'later all

<Kyryn sees the CR lawyer and takes off towards the fairgrounds."Maybe I can lose him there">
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, October 23, 1998 07:18:43 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

<The CR door flies open and a bucking bronco lunges in. Kyryn clings valiantly to its back, but is eventually thrown off. The horse stops bucking and trots out the door.>

Well, I'm off to the college rodeo this evening. Just to watch- I don't ride IRL. <g>

Coyote> I submitted the WCC info for Kyryn and included a couple of pics. It may have sent twice, once without the attachments. I'm not sure, the e-mail was being kinda funny. Maybe I'll have to go gremlin hunting again.

Zath> I suggest Janusites for the name of your race. Since you are going with a Roman theme, Janus was the Roman god of gates and he was usually depicted as having two-faces. See eps of Dark Ages, he made a guest appearance there in the ep 'Wanderer'.

<Kyryn picks herself up and starts to leave when she sees to CR lawyer headed towards her waving a bunch of papers."Uh oh, he's probably mad about the hoofprints. Bye". She runs of the room with the lawyer in hot pursuit>
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Friday, October 23, 1998 06:59:38 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Heh...I'm in a real weird mood...I've actually drew Graeme last night....

Anyway, I'se not a newbie!!! Everyone knows me!!!

*Can see Coyote and Traveller putting on hats, sunglasses and fake moustashes, looking around, avoiding her.*

Heh...
Eddie - [blkblade@mailexcite.com]
Winslow, ME, US of...Canada!
Friday, October 23, 1998 04:10:03 PM
IP: gcolor.com

*Angel rushes in, followed by her fox, Corbin. She comes to a swift halt, almost spilling a tall glass of Quik in her hand, and turns off her headphones, which are blaring out Sarah McLachlan's "Angel". ;j*

Hey, everyone, I don't really have anything to say, I just felt like coming in here. *smiles*
Hey, there are a few newbies in here, it seems. Welcome!

*Angel rushes out.*
AotN
Friday, October 23, 1998 04:06:17 PM
IP: akron-157-21.sssnet.com

Sorry my last post was so crazy. I had exactly 20 seconds to type it, and I could not for the love of pizza remember how to spell "anuyerism". I don't even know if I spelled it right THIS time. Any meds out there who'll check it for me?

COYOTE> I'm commiserating via e-mail. Check it in five minutes.

Frankenstiened machines? Well, I had a 486/66 with 4 MB RAM and a 430 MB internal hard drive. We added 20 MB RAM, a 2.0 GB external drive, and a zip drive. I'm still stuck with Windows 3.1, though. Luckily for me, a new computer is on the horizon: anytime between now and March. The sooner the better, I say.

Does anyone have a copy of the Shirley Jackson story "The Lottery"? My teacher's giving bonus marks to anyone who provides her with a copy, even one written out longhand. If you have it as a file or know where to get it, I'd be very grateful.

I think that's it for now. Actually, that's it for this week. No Internet for me this weekend... NOOO!!!! How will I survive? I'll be back Monday at lunch (before school I read TGS, lunch I post opinions). Au revoir!

Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Alberta, Canada
Friday, October 23, 1998 02:29:35 PM
IP: temple.ecs.edmonton.ab.ca

AIE! That's not the Familiae Caligorum!!! *Blinx.* Oh, I get it...TGS's Brooklyn...Wrong multiverse....*baps her forehead.*

Heh...now that I got that out of my system...

Hey, folks! Just wanted to drop a line saying hi there!

Coyote> My buddy Dave "Blitz Hunter" Bumford has a zip drive, 5 gig HD, 64 MB RAM, all running on a Tandy 386...if you want to talk about frankensteined...

Traveler>Who needs to advertise one's self when faithful fans spread the word? Almost lost the almost completed "Ambient Anarchists" due to the fact that a Mac formatted the disk but left the files in tack...but as soon as the archive is up, that's going up!

Coyote Again> Hope you liked the pic...I don't know why I was feeling mean to Caligo...
Eddie - [blkblade@mailexcite.com]
Winslow, ME, U.S. of Canada :P
Friday, October 23, 1998 01:19:35 PM
IP: gcolor.com

**Bernadette and Sevarius, Jr. are on their date, and Sevarius Jr's girlfriend comes in. He has some explaining to do :)**

Firestorm> Welcome Back. Feel free to e-mail me. I agree with Lady Mystic. As for the mouse, mine is working better. I just re-arranged the computer. Besides, I need a job first. My funds are limited to the interest check for my bonds, and it's very little. I do a scholarship with free tuition, so that can help, and I can afford G99, but that's it.

Kitainia> Attila hasn't exiled Grimalkin. He has done soem speech writing for Billy the Cat in 96, though he stole a lot of Phil Gramm's ideas :)

Regarding Dilbert, I guess Garlon would be Ratbert then :)

On another note, Lucretia Borgia was Spanish. Her Uncle, Pope callistus III was from a minor noble family in Valencia.

Zach> Livia was Augustus's second wife and Tiberius's mother. She was very scheeming in I, Claudius, a miniseries I truly love. Drucilla was Calligula's first wife and sister. Maybe those names can work.

**Attila starts meowing at Green Baron. "I must go. Attila is going to meow until he gets what he wants, and then he will ask to go outside or be nuzzled. Bye!"**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Friday, October 23, 1998 12:49:51 PM
IP: 141.164.133.101

Oh, almost forgot!

Traveler: Take a careful look at the Illuminati's discussion in #2. The reason why they're not concerned about the Rokkans is because they know they're safe: there's a Rokkan among their numbers.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 23, 1998 10:22:26 AM
IP: 207.91.254.39

WILEK> (Re: Reboot censors) I know. The 2nd season finale "Web World Wars" gave anyuerisms(sp?) to ABC. They edited five minutes out of a 22 minute show, due to violence.

Gotta fly, see y'all in a couple hours!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Canada Friday, October 23, 1998 10:19:24 AM
IP: dsle01371.adsl.telusplanet.net

**Coyote enters the room, carrying a large sack.**

Traveler: Congratulations. **pulls out a 4-pound peanut butter cookie** I didn't know what flavor, so I guessed. Yep, Tommy Walker is The Who's "Tommy," quite possibly *the* definitive rock opera. (BTW, "Pinball Wizard" was a song in "Tommy.") And for those who couldn't figure out where I got the last name, it's from the first two lines of the entire thing:

Captain Walker didn't come home
His unborn child will never know him

And I really can't take credit for the ZIP drive. If you want the computer Frankenstein, that would be my uncle, who's a system analyst for Hitachi Data Systems and works out of his house. The way I did it was by installing it through DOS ... it's one of the models that works through a printer port. And I'm running Windows 3.1, FYI.

Zath: Sorry to rain on your parade. I wish I could help you come up with a better name for the race ... but my mind's drawing a blank right now.

Wilek: WCC will probably be posted shortly before next year's Gathering. It'll take that long to get it organized and written. Like I said a few weeks ago, the plan is that G:CM will go on hiatus at the end of March, which will give me about two and a half months to complete WCC. Among the things I'm probably going to do for WCC is acquire another Website for it (it's going to be WAY too big for my Geocities space!!).

Kitainia: Interesting setup Gubio has there.

Well, I have things to do ... I picked up a shift for today, so I'm winding up working six days this week. Can't complain, it's good $$$$$.

**Coyote jogs out.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 23, 1998 10:18:16 AM
IP: 207.91.254.39

** The screen lights up, on it is a view of Kitainia in her apartment, making several phone calls.**

Alright, that tracks down everyone except for Shap, Boris, and Doug. I'll find them later. Gotta get to Gubio's house as soon as I make this post.

Atilla: Glad to see you here. You are quite an amusing little kitty. Have you ever cast out the demon cat Grimalkin?

Creativity Demon: The cast of Dilbert until recently worked for Maddox Technologies. (Yes, I was the one who did the "Madoc, the Preventer of Information Services" thing.) Catbert was really Grimalkin. Anyone think this is plausible?

Seri: You didn't have to kill the monster, but thanks. I was just expressing my opinion of it, not making any suggestions. Welcome to the madness. You too, Fleur.

Coyote: Yes, that is an amazing feat of computer linking. But nothing compared to what Gubio has been able to do. His study has three seperate computers, two of which he built himself out of spare parts. Both are 450 mhz Pentiums, with the best modems and monitors available, Windows 98, zip drives, and the hard disks have 64 Ram and 20 Gigabytes of memory apiece. And they're linked together to use each other's systems. The other computer, his 'virus inoculation drive' is just a measly 486 with only Win 3.1 and some other stuff on there for the virus to play with while Alex studies what it does so he can more easily design a program to destroy it. Don't worry about Doug getting jealous, he knows I was only flirting and we both have made a deal that we can go that far with other people and not discuss the idea first as long as we go no farther. <grin>

Zath: Well, the most famous Roman woman I can think of is Lucretia, the name of the woman whose rape by the last Roman King and subsequent suicide caused a scandal so big it brought down the Roman monarchy and instituted the Roman Republic. A concubine of Hadrian's and Lucretia Borgia are other famous Italian women by that name, I think (though I'm pretty sure neither of them was raped or committed suicide). Other famous Roman women might include Octavia (sister of Ceasar Augustus), Julia (Augustus's daughter), and I can't think of any more. Oh well, I suppose that's good enough. :)

Wilek: Sorry if it's confusing you to keep track of all this. You are doing a good job. Doug and I will try to keep our posts in story continuity and make that easier for you. Please let us know soon what horror the lab that spawned such things as your Alien Raoul and my psychotic clone Asil (who also may be working for Thailog, we aren't sure yet) has come up with this time.

Okay, guess that's everything. I'll go find Doug now. See everyone at Gubio's.
** Kitainia's cell phone rings suddenly and she answers it. "Yes?"
"It's Shap. I went out for some donuts and left Keith and Shauna to guard the rednecks and something just happened."
K: "They were fine when I called them five minutes ago. What happened?"
S: "I'm not sure. Keith just said the combination of Brian's Small World CD and Traveller's Barney video (which he did not want played for them) caused all four of these guys to go berserk with rage, mutate into giant spiky winged troll-like creatures, and tear the entire building to pieces before knocking aside their guards and flying out the door of the abandoned warehouse we was keeping them in."
K: "What? They couldn't have mutated? How?"
S: "Lathrop's here with me now, he claims he detects some residual magical protection traces on some teeth that burst out of their mouth and had to be left behind when they transformed. I think we know how they avoided interrogation. I'm also getting traces of both unholy and Unseelie-related magic from these teeth via my own paladin detect evil ability. As for the mutation, well, there's a window in here. Maybe some mosquitoes came in.
K: "Great. This is getting worse fast. Grab everyone who's with you, get down to Alex's house. He just finished decrypting the files and has found something terrible."
S: "Yeah, I heard. See ya." (hangs up)
Kitainia turns back to the screen. "Okay, now I'll get going." Just then Doug opens the apartment door and says in his best Desi Arnaz voice, "Lisa, I'm home!" Kitainia glares at him. "About time, what kept you?" "I had a class, any problems?" Kitainia nods and points to the record she's kept of the CR postings as the screen goes blank.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 09:02:49 AM
IP: hd49-079.hil.compuserve.com

**Just a quick post, no obscenly long RP this time>:)**

>Mary Flanders- Thanks for the info on how to kill the smurf queen. We'll try it if we ever find her. But until we do...*Traveler lights up the CR as he sprays napalm in the air and lights it with his trustry flame-thrower* I'll stick with this for dealing with them.>:)

>Mr. Noying- I agree, Dragonball Z is the better anime.

>Fire Storm/Jaden- Let's combine the ideas. With an ICQ chat room for TGS we could chat AND trade warez/mp3's.>:)

>Coyote the Bando- I'll take a stab at it and say that the character is from the play "Tommy" even though I've never seen it. Or is it called "Pinball Wizard"? Or is "Pinball Wizard" one of the songs in the play "Tommy"? Hmm... Concerning my question about the Illuminati: Yes I remember that from issue two. But my beef is that they seem so unconcerned about the Rokans taking over the entire planet. One other thing: What kind of Frankenstein genius are you that you can get a Zip drive to work on a 386?! (You should get together with S.J. He handles the biologic angle, you play around with some cybernetic parts and see what you can come up with.>:)) I'm not sure but I think it was designed to be backwards compatible up to the 486 series of processers and motherboards. Question: What operating system are you useing?

>Coyote the Bando- I just reloaded the CR to check for new messages and low and behold, there you are! Anyway, I read it and came across the phrase: <army of genetically-engineered shock troops>, and said to my self: "I must file that one with my other twisted phrases. Right next to the 'Quazi-medival death hoarde'one." >:) And to anyone in here (THIS INCLUDES THE LURKERS) not aquainted with Amy K. Cyrway's fanfic multiverse (read'em and find out why it's called a multiverse instead of universe>:) I suggest you go read them as soon as the Gargoyles Fanfic Archive is back up and running.

>Wilek- <Traveler> You are *sick*. I rather like that. >:)> Why thank you Wilek, Psycological Warfare is one of my hobbies. And do I want to know what you and S.J. are growing, or don't I?

**"That's all for now folks!" *Screen fades out**
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Friday, October 23, 1998 01:59:10 AM
IP: 170-39-31.ipt.aol.com

[Wilek, Raoul, the Scouts, SJ, Tuxedo Dole, and now Fleur are in SJ's lab. Traveler is with Doug, Kitainia, the Black Ravens, and Miriam seeing what's up with the data Gubio decrypted. It's very difficult keeping track of all this.] Oh, thank Oberon we got to the lab before Sevarius did. SJ, get into your genetics mainframe, see if you've got anything that can help us. Scouts and Fleur, guard the perimeter. Dole, make sure no Elisa clones get in here. <reads posts, finds all Elisa clones dead> Strike that. And I forgive you for eyeing Elisa Lewinsky. She had these weird synthetic pheremones.

Brian> Ah, *that* record. AND IT'S STILL GOING ON! The clone war thing was a direct result of my trip to the future, and Dark Mage Wilek is the last surviving evil clone. Hey you're right about that chem stuff. Too bad I don't know jack snot about chemicals. Somebody check that!

Coyote> Great story. Hey, when do you expect the first of the WCC stories to be complete? I was just on your site. Someone submitted 200+ characters? Ack, I hope they didn't want you to do a pic of each one. ^_^ <<My name is Coyote, and I am a non-deaf geek who watches TV with the captions on.>> You too?

Mainframe using "language"> Speaking of which, the censors almost had a heart attack over Dot Matrix on Reboot. Ack.

Dumlao> You haven't read Coyote's fics? YOU HAVEN'T LIVED. WCC will be the best fic cycle ever. Mostly because Miriam and I are in it. ^_^ (Just kidding! It would be great even without us.)

Seri> Actually, Walt was cremated. Garg screams under the science labs? Elisa clones prowling the campus? Man...maybe after we check with Gubio we can help over there.

Traveler> You are *sick*. I rather like that. >:)

Well--[Wilek is interrupted by a triumphant laugh from SJ. He shows Wilek the screen. Wilek smiles evilly.] Oh, *yes*. Get the growth cycle started. After it's done, we'll join Miriam, Traveler, Doug, Kitainia, and the Black Ravens. Apparently Gubio has found something we'd better see.
Wilek Nereus
Friday, October 23, 1998 01:36:01 AM
IP: tnt-2-91-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Coyote: Thanks, it's annoying but thanks. I guess it's better to know now than to get a dozen emails later that say "Huh?" Oh well. What really annoys me is that I've had this story in the back of my mind for over a year now. I guess I should have started sooner.

Now I need a new name for the species. "Grotesques" had just been so fitting because they seem the same as gargoyles at first glance but there are a lot of differences. They have 5 fingers and a 4th toe that acts like a thumb. They can shift between a "human" type of form and a "gargoyle" type of form (which causes both humans and gargoyles to think of them as dangerous freaks that need to be destroyed so they are even closer to extinction than gargoyles). Also, their eyes glow whatever color they are normally. Nero has green eyes, so they glow green, something that causes some problems when he first meets the clan. I guess now I need ideas for character names *and* species names. :(
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 01:27:08 AM
IP: ns9-07.viptx.net

Zath: Err ... "Grotesques" was used by Amy K. Cyrway for an army of genetically-engineered shock troops in her fics. You might want to choose a different name, just to make sure there's no confusion.
If you want proof: Cyrway's Grotesques are in WCC. Click my name link, they're under "Clone Wars."
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 23, 1998 01:03:35 AM
IP: 207.91.254.30

Okay, amybe Roman queens wasn't the best choice of words. How about "any famous Roman females"?
Zath
Friday, October 23, 1998 12:32:51 AM
IP: ns9-07.viptx.net

Hi all. I was wondering if you could help me out. I was thinking of doing a fic featuring a species that looks similar to gargoyles (one named Nero shacks up with Demona) and I wanted to know if the name Grotesques had already been used or not. Also, Nero and his brothers (Claudius and Hadrian) are all named after Roman emperors. Are there any famous Roman queens I can name his sisters after, or do I have to go with Egyptian queens?

One other thing, what ever happened to the CR lawyer? I haven't seen anyone beat up, mangle, maim, or kill him for quite a while.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, October 23, 1998 12:29:57 AM
IP: ns9-07.viptx.net

And just to clarify:

G:CM (Gargoyles: Clan Manhattan) is the title ofmy *entire* fic cycle.

WCC (When Clans Collide!) is an individual story within the G:CM continuity which will serve as the last story of the cycle.

Just in case anyone was confused.


Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 22, 1998 11:22:33 PM
IP: 207.91.254.69

**Coyote enters the room with some weird stuff painted to his chest (which is bare).**

Well, I got the job, and I made out with my new boss. Thanks, Shirt-In-A-Can!!

**starts hysterically laughing, then composes self.**

Sorry. I don't know why, but that sketch from last week's SNL just stuck in my head!

Replies for everybody!

SJ: I picked up the habit after watching enough TV with my ex (who was hearing-impaired), and insisted that the new TV I got had captioning in it. Just for the hell of it.

Deuce: Come commiserate with me, buddy.

DumlaoX: I know, they love the stories. I certainly would love it if you could read them, but as you're one of the heads of TGS I might get you into legal trouble (since I use elements of TGS' timeline in the cycle. Actually, my world is a pastiche of the original, TGS and TGC.).
Although ... on the INWO cards list, they have a thing where if submitters send what's called a "use-as-thou-wilt" clause to the head of the list, it clears SJGames of any legal trouble should any of our ideas be used in actual INWO cards. If I assured you that I wouldn't get uppity if elements similar to G:CM appeared in TGS, would you be able to read it with a clear conscience then?

Seri: No, not really. If you don't have the time or the VCR-programming knowledge to tape it yourself, that copy comes in handy. You're still getting the gist of the story.

Kitainia: **grins, blushes like a fool.** Thanks ... although I wouldn't want to make Doug jealous!

SOROW: The scene is the Central Park chase during the day, after Goliath's turned to stone. It's when Elisa winds up in the boathouse, and discovers that the gun she stole is empty. Here's the transcript of the captions:

(sighs)
DAMN.

Know what I'm talkin' bout?

Traveler: It's not for lack of talent (you guys have *the* dominant goaltender in the NHL right now, and at one time Scotty Bowman was the Sabres' coach), I think it's just lack of luck. If Kolzig had played as shabbily as he did in the Finals when the Caps faces the Sabres, the Wings would have had to deal with Hasek in the Finals.
And check the very second volume, "Eyes to the Sky." The Illuminati Society, last they were seen, were watching Rosanna closely, and had arranged for Steve Bluestone to meet her so they could get closer (even though he isn't an Illuminatus like his late father.). They may show up later, I haven't decided yet.

I notice nobody else has tried to guess where Tommy Walker comes from. Okay, one last clue, then if I've still got you stumped I'll tell you where he's from. The following is lines from a song that he's a big part of. (If nobody can figure it out after this one, I'll know he's too obscure! Keep an ear out, Theresa, I think you have the best shot at this.) The lines:
Listening to you, I get the music
Gazing at you, I get the heat
Following you, I climb the mountain
I get excitement at your feet
Right behind you, I see the millions
On you, I see the glory
From you, I get opinions
From you, I get the story

There. And I changed my mind: he'll show up in the Halloween fic.

Oh, for all those who were concerned about my low-tech equipment: somehow I managed to get a ZIP drive working on this infernal machine. So I'm a little up to date.

Must run. Seeya.

**Coyote leaves the room. Once out, he's heard yelling "OW, it's burning my skin!" A disembodied announcer answers, "I know. That's how you know it's a shirt."**


Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 22, 1998 11:14:49 PM
IP: 207.91.254.69

Seri: The Gargoyles pops have a date of 1998 on them, and besides that, the place opened in 1997!
(Plus, this place actually checks the dates on it's stock!)

DumlaoX: I guess this CR is turning into a Warez room, eh? <G>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:33:21 PM
IP: dhcp159.visitus.net

I was just reading some of the new comments when I had an interesting thought. Has anyone ever thought of having an ICQ chat room for TGS. You know a place where we could all get together and discuss the lastest episode or just hang out or something. It could be fun.
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, California, U.S.A.
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:16:10 PM
IP: pm1-1.sma.silcom.com

**Mr. Noying looks about the room he has fallen into. He curses himself for being distracted by shiny objects AGAIN, and begins to look for a way out...**

I can confirm the fact that Elisa said "Damn" in the first episode, after all, I watched a private marathon of my copies the other day. And while the tape version of the movie did cut out some 32 minutes of footage, various sound effects were different, and some of the animations were also altered... Weird...

Also, its wierd that there are so many Star Trek and Sailor Moon fans here. Though I've stopped watching Sailor Moon in preference for Dragonball Z...

I am going to HAVE to find the time to check out everyone else's sights. Seems like I'm missing out on quite a bit. Well, I'm not doing anything this weekend...

Who else is looking forward to The Lion King 2 on Tuesday? I sure am!

Also, I've heard rumors that there were two episodes of the Goliath Chronicle never shown. One supposedly was not shown because it had a Hitler-like theme. The other supposedly had Brooklyn going off to Avalon and coming back some time later with a mate, which wasn't shown because the episode made no sense... Anybody else hear about this?

**Mr. Noying suddenly hears something. He had assumed he had been dropped into the basement of the comment room, but a very familiar, very annoying tune plays upon his ears... "There's a new sound, deep down in the ground! Deep down in the ground, it's the sound that's made by WOOORMS..." Mr. Noying screams, and passes out.
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:12:51 PM
IP: spider-we044.proxy.aol.com

*creeps in ever so quietly dressed in a cat burgler outfit. She creeps around and lifts up a board on the floor. She pulls out a small black boxand shakes it, hearing the rock noise that it makes, is assured that her treasure is safe*

Anyone here touches this box, DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ahem)
Sorry about that, been feeling rather weird today. ;P Well today was a good day at school. I love Block Schedules on Thursdays! (don't ask). Don't have anything to say at the moment....Oh yeah! The only way to kill those smurfs I let out is to find the Queen Mum of them all. Where she is I have no idea. But once you do you have to hose her down with Pepto Bismal and make her do the Hokey Pokey. Than all the smurfs will drop dead. Got it? Good. Later!

*creeps out the window in an oh-so burgler way*
Mary Flanders
Thursday, October 22, 1998 09:26:57 PM
IP: stk-ts1-h2-37-49.ispmodems.net

*Glides into the CR followed by her author's version of the Guardians, a large group of college students wearing sword and gargoyle wings pendants. One in the front carries a jackhammer, two more support a bedraggled and bleeding Delilah, and several carry guns*

We found the problem. Dr. Scratch-And-Sniff was doing some genetic/psychological experiments on our poor clone friend here in a secret lab in the basement of the Science building. He was creating concentrated examples of the most annoying females on the planet. My friends, ah, took care of them, though, except for Elisa Lewinsky, who I mistakenly took off-campus. We'll be burning the bodies soon, so no one calls public health, ok?

BTW, Kitiana, your wish is my command. The monster is dead, long live the gargoyles!

*the troops leave, bundling Delilah into a car for the trip back to NY*
Seri
Thursday, October 22, 1998 07:51:21 PM
IP: unit10b.miseri.edu

**A mature 8 year old cat walks in holding a Bible. His fur is black with a white belly and a few other white spots about, as well as some gray. He looks at the people with his green eyes**

Meow!! Hello everyone. I am Reverend Attila the Hun, Thomas's cat. I saw a surprised response to my ministry, and my little slave boy (Green Baron) is still at Loyola's campus.

Kyrvyn> Actually, a lot of dogs are registered Ministers, so it's not that odd. The Universal Life Church is pretty nice, though Thomas is too cheap to spend $50.00 fo rmy supplies. I must meow to the masses and preach the Gospel of St. Garfield, but I'll save that preaching for another day :)

Goodbye. Meow!

*Reverend Attila walks away and lifts up his tail, mooning the CR**
Reverend Attila Forsyth - [Baron1314@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Thursday, October 22, 1998 07:29:52 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Hi again , I forgot that I put fan-fictions on Gargoyles Fan-Fiction page. My name that I used was Cassie Maza. I take on many names. :)
So I was wondering where do I go to put my third part of "Future Turning Part III" ?
I accidently deleted the e-mail that had the page of your password and all of that.

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 05:39:03 PM
IP: spider-tj011.proxy.aol.com

**One of Traveler's now trademark dark energy vortex portals opens into the interrogation room and Traveler steps out pushing a TV and VCR cart in front of him. "Hello Doug, Lathrop, Linnet, everyone else. I heard you guys were having a bit of a problem with a few magic and mind-control resistant thugs that you were trying to interrogate. So I thought I'd drop by and give you a hand with a somewhat 'unorthodox' method. *Whispers to Doug what it is, Doug looks at him with horror and asks: "You are on our side, right!? I mean that sounds like something Thailog and Wilek the Dark Mage would do!" Traveler:"Given that they've been able to resist the Black Raven efforts 'and' Rolling Calf's 'It's a small world after all' tape so far I don't think you really have a choice if you want to get any information out of them. Besides this combined with Rolling Calf's tape will be a nice A/V one two punch." Doug: "Ok, I hate to, but let's do it." Traveler: "This room is sound proof right?" Doug: "Yes, of course, I would'nt have agreed to this if it wasn't." *Traveler begins to set up a tape in the VCR.* Traveler: "Alright make sure those two are securely straped down and have this headgear on so they can't swallow their tongues to escape the pain." *Presses the Play button* Traveler: "Everyone out now!" *Just as the door closes everyone barely catches the first few bars of the Barney and friends movie. Then, even though the room is sound proof, faint screaming can be heard.* Traveler: "Well I set the VCR on a continuous loop so just leave them to stir in their own juices for a few hours. Their minds will be mush but they'll tell you anything you want to know." *Opens a vortex a prepares to head back to the other team.* "Oh and one other thing you can keep the TV/VCR combo for possible future use. *then darkly adds* And tell Shallow Mouth not to go anywhere, I want a word with him about the Bills four consecutive Super Bowl losses." *Traveler steps into the portal and it closes.*

>Coyote the Bando- Ha! Ha! You forget my friend that while the Wings had to wait 42 years between Stanley Cups, the Buffalo Sabers have NEVER won the Championship. Also concerning the biological question of gargs and illnesses that can defeat the stone sleep cure-all, I have to say the Wilek's response seems like the most plausable explaination. Also congratulations on the big 20 of G:CM.
Question: What's the Illuminati been doing during the invasion? In some twisted way are they really behind the whole thing?

>Carolynn "Aerie" Marie- *ammused by her comment so leaves a smack-you-gram addressed to her on the CR coffee table of delayed vengence* BTW are you still working on your fanfic universe? Oh and watch out, I told you guys those little blue rats were tricky. (Think they'll have that on the tour?: is from Jurassic Park:)

>Mandi Ohlin- *face-plate warps and twists into a mock horrified face* YOU'RE WRITING FANFIC AGAIN!? THE SEVENTH SEAL HAS BEEN BROKEN!! WE ARE ALL DOOMED!!! *quiets down* Just kidding about the end of the world thing...I think. All done with midterms eh, that must be a relief. Your brain probably feels as if it's been fried (The perfect condition for a fanfic author to write in.) Anyway any ideas on when your next masterpiece will be posted on your site? One more thing, this should help you with avoiding those peskey characters. *Hands her a mini-cloaking device* Just press this button and *poof* they'll run right past you.

>Wilek- I'm glad you and Raoul enjoyed the KFS.

>Rolling Calf- <Dragon's : Please do that story justice TGS, no fictional creature ranks hire than a Dragon as far as many people are concerned.> I agree.

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons. DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT! I CAN'T HELP IT!

>Fleur- WELCOME TO THE MADNESS! Here, have a flame-thrower, you'll need it, those smurfs are hard to hit, trust me>:)

>S.J.- I see your enjoying the gift>:)

>Kitainia- Yes it seems you have created a monster>:) Ha! Ha! Ha!

>MP3's- I have somewhere around 100-120 or so.>:)

**Traveler is seen talking into a small computer on his left arm.* Well that was interesting, I just received a call from Kitainia telling me to get down to the HQ for some important information that Gubio has just decrypted. It sounded like it was pretty bad news. I wonder what it could be? Hmm... *The screen fades out just as he opens a portal.*
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 04:42:59 PM
IP: 173-114-136.ipt.aol.com

Funny, I just ran across the post by AOTN saying the song "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan would be great for a Gargoyles soundtrack. I used to play that song repeatedly when I was catching up on TGS. It's totally perfect for the situation with Brooklyn. He was so sad until he met Sata and to me all gargoyles are angels!
Coyote> Where does Elisa say damn in Awakenings?
Heather>I know how you feel at school and don't let it get you down. Other people don't know #@$*!
SOROW
Thursday, October 22, 1998 04:26:25 PM
IP: usr3-3-dialup26.mix1.irving.cw.net

Thanks guys. *pops back * Man , those hugs were tight.
Anyway , for the Star Trek fan fictions , I have been thinking of if I can make a.....*blushes more *Sailor Moon/Star Trek series.
Starting from TOS to Voyager. That would be cool.
And about my African clan , I thought of Leanna's name by from Lt. B'Leanna Torres. I always wanted to use her first name in one of my stories.
And if you want to read my first stories just click on my name.
And if you go to my sounds page. Sailor Earth's voice is actually mine.
See ya later.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 04:15:46 PM
IP: 170-48-119.ipt.aol.com

Sorry if this's been answered, but when is the new ep of Timedancer gonna come out? (I asked last week, but no one answered, and it was soon before the room got wiped anyway.)

Anywho, visit my website while yer about. ;)
Malibu Nylkoorb
Thursday, October 22, 1998 04:13:26 PM
IP: 1cust198.tnt16.chi5.da.uu.net

Oh, drat. I put Doug's e-mail on my last post accidentally. Sigh, I may have been living with him too long. :) This post has the correct one.
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 03:21:59 PM
IP: dallas-dnzow-063.tx.compuserve.net

** Kitainia sticks her head in the CR, looks around, sees all the posts about Elisa clones and lets a deep-throated growl echo out of her mouth. **

Doug, I think in starting this RP we may have created a monster.

But don't worry, folks. We'll still finish it, just for the record we are not planning to include any more about those extremely ridiculous and whiny excuses for clones of my favorite TV female police officer. Not in my posts, anyway. The rest of y'all can indulge yourselves about it, but be advised that this is not Sevarius Sr.'s original or primary plan. What he really is up to with Thailog and the others Doug will reveal in time.

Coyote: Good job on Part 20, especially on the characters of Rain and Rosanna. Keep it up! (blows him a couple kisses)

Congrats to Stephen RS on his new job.

DumlaoX: The MP3s we have here are "Unforgiven II" by Metallica in instrumental, a couple movements of Beethoven's Ninth symphony aka Ode to Joy (in the same file), the Star Wars theme music, and the Titanic main title theme music. Yes, we know, compared to your collection what we have is little. But we will expand it someday. :)

Doug: Wasn't the gang leader in Lethal Weapon 3 named Tyrone? And I think Slash is in honor of your favorite ninja turtle. Olsen of course comes from that pair of young twin actresses you for some reason gack almost every time you see on TV. Oh no, I'm cheating. I already knew all this. You probably aren't going to give me a cyber-cookie.

Heather: Yep, life can be hard. But I'm sure you can handle it. All you have to do is rationalize your problems and disappointments until they're behind you, adjust your attitude, and move on. Like the song says, don't worry, be happy. (You wouldn't believe the hard things I had to go through in my life to learn that.)

Okay, see y'all next time. That's all I came to say.
** Kitainia turns and leaves, her cell phone ringing as she closes the CR door. "Yeah?" she asks, picking it up.
"It's Gubio," comes the answer. "Files decrypted. You better get everybody down to my place right now, Lis."
"What? Is there a problem?"
"Uh-huh."
Tune in next post to find out what the problem is. <evil grin> **
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 03:09:22 PM
IP: dallas-dnzow-063.tx.compuserve.net

Coyote> You mean I got gypped? :( Ah well, it was only 4 bucks, what did I expect? Who would replace damn with great, anyway? *sigh* Only at Disney. Walt's turning over in his grave, or fridge, as the case may be.

I haven't seen all of Awakenings at a time since 1994, so I didn't remember. :(

SJ> I'm so sorry your date got ruined. :( But super-powered girlfriends can fix anything, you two will be able to make this turn out right as well. :)
Are you sure your dad's with the clones? I've heard the garg screams, too, now, but I'm having problems finding them. They seem to be coming from under the Science Building here on campus, but I remember when it was built, and it doesn't have a basement. One of the student Guardians has gone for a jackhammer and we're going to find out exactly what's going on.

We've managed to identify two of the wandering clones around here. One is fat and ugly, and the students have tagged her as Elisa Jones, and another has really bad hair and spouts legal garbage. She must be Elisa Clark. There are several others wandering around, too, we're still trying to figure them out and keep them out of trouble.
*glides back to finish her paper so she has time to work on the mystery later*
Seri
Thursday, October 22, 1998 01:44:18 PM
IP: unit5b.miseri.edu

*takes out a ZIP disk from the lab computers and stuffs it in his backpack*

Backup of TGS site completed. I do this about once a week. I got myself this nifty little HTML 4.0 book recently. Now, Gorebash is taking some midterms (like I will next Monday) so the progress on the new comment room script I will maintain is on hold right now. Whenever I need a study break, I'll look into the HTML code of the site and try to trim it down a bit (and hopefully find any hidden bugs none of us have found yet).

MRNOYING-- As far as I know, if it can be seen on the net, then a Mac can read the file a PC does (and vice versa). Try the e-mail solution I posted somewhere down the room (put up some text first before attaching the file so the e-mail program knows something is attached there). If that doesn't work, the next best thing that can be done is to put up the file on a website and give the URL to the intended sender.

COYOTE-- OK, so I haven't found time to read over your Clan Manhattan series and WCC series. However, I have to say that from the reactions here, you must be doing one hell of a good job. Congrats!

FIRE STORM-- All my mp3's to CD-ROM, eh? I'll get back to you come November. According to the campus news here, there will be a mega multimedia station here in the comp labs complete with DVD, CDRW, video editing, etc. If I can't get a reservation to use the comp for 4 hours, I'll definitly be mailing you my ZIPs. And, yes, if you want the mp3's in there, take a copy. And I'll send you the blank CDs if I send you the ZIPs. Thanx much.

Up the number of mp3's I have to about 444. About 300 of those reside in 11 ZIP disks.

A mega mp3 list from the TGS:CR dwellers? Sonds like fun :)

STEPHEN-- Working on the script and it will include new pics in them. BTW, if you want more character pics, you gotta ask the TGS Art staff to make em. So far, all the CR pics done here and the ones waiting to be placed were taken from the public art archive and pics done for episodes.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 01:39:51 PM
IP: dhcp67.oac-commons.ucla.edu

*walks in, stepping in a big puddle of smurf juice* Yuk. Someone get a mop.

COYOTE> I, too, have a similar "precious vs. posers" rating for people. Sadly, many friends of mine have been sliding from the former category into the latter, lately.

HEATHER> I can so sympathize, honey. Life's rough, but it always gets better. It's the delay between the bad and the good that's rough.

BRIAN> Never, EVER make "Small World" jokes. EVER. I had to go on that accursed ride THREE times in February when we went to California. Evil, evil little dolls.

I have a theory on the Elisa "damn" thing. It coincides with the one time we heard "hell" on Gargoyles. They both took place in the first episode, right? (I assume all five parts of "Awakening" to be one ep). This is a hook. They were trying to appeal to an older crowd by showing they had an "edge". (*gasp* They said "hell"/"damn" on a Disney show! Wow!)

A similar tactic was used in the series premiere of Mainframe Inc.'s (ReBoot/Beasties) new show "Shadow Raiders". ("War Planets" in the States). King Cryos had the line "Your colleagues damn you, man of stone". It was gratuitous, yes, but showed the show had a definite "edge". (Actually, I think the show should be rated TV-PG; there's LOTS of innuendo in it).

That's all for now. Good thing I could get a computer this lunch hour - I was almost stuck with my math teacher explaining how to simplify rational expressions! A fate worse than death.

*leaves, scraping blue goop off his feet*
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Canada Thursday, October 22, 1998 01:38:01 PM
IP: dsle01371.adsl.telusplanet.net

**Sevarius Jr. is in his lab, with the other various recruits for the ropleplay. He's adjusting his flamethrower for "maximum burn."**

Just thought I'd pop in here and say a few words before we all go kick the evil clones' hineys. And I'm pretty mad too! Here I was, on my date with the lovely Bernadette, and my DAD had to go and join the clones. And he said he was gonna reform...

Coyote: As usual, another great addition to G:CM. I can't wait to see how the whole thing ends! Oh, and don't feel too bad. I watch TV with the captions on sometimes too.

Firestorm: Sorry! I didn't tape Mercy Point. Which is probably bad, cause I think they might have already canceled that show...oh well, another victim of the ratings wars.

Seri: Hmmm....I don't think that candy's mutagenic. Just don't eat pop rocks with soda. We all know how that urban legend turns out.

Well, gotta go rally the troops. I think Tuxedo Bob Dole's been getting all goo-goo eyed at Elisa Lewinsky. God, what is it with politicians and that name?
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 11:25:28 AM
IP: 207-172-117-221.s221.tnt12.brd.erols.com

Seri: Elisa said "damn," but it won't be on that copy you just bought. I have that copy myself. In that version, which is edited to death, the word "damn" is replaced with either "empty" or "great" (I don't remember now, it's been a while since I've seen it). She only says "damn" in the version that's been aired around the country, which also has a number of things the tape on sale is missing (references to the eggs, a scene in the Aerie Building kitchen, and some others). Can't be cussing around little kids who might be watching y'know! (and I can't help saying that ... I was just watching "Histeria" this morning with the network censor giving Admiral Farragut holy hell for saying "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" on a kid's show. He threw her overboard. Fun.)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 22, 1998 11:15:07 AM
IP: 207.91.254.66

I came in to read posts, and I end up posting, myself. Go figure. I'll never get any work done this way. :)

Coyote> 'She said 'damn'."? Who said damn? I bought a copy of the Gargoyles movie two weeks ago, but haven't found time to watch it yet. :( It has the VCR board game and everything. :) I also found a little plastic Xanatos and Elisa. :) It was a very good day. But the store used to have a 10 inch plastic Hudson, and I wasn't able to find it. They still had little Xanati and Elisas, but I think I'm the only active gargfan in the county, so they're probably still there. :) Dallas Hardware in PA, if anyone cares. :)

I can't remember who said this, but I remember the Gargoyles Cool Creations pops from about '95. Be careful eating stuff that old, it might be mutagenic. :) *looks to SJ*

On the clones note, there are more Elisa looking things appearing on my campus, and one of the students came and checked if I was all right just before dawn, she said she had heard a garg scream. I'll have to check this out tonight, it's getting awful wierd around here.
Seri
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:48:41 AM
IP: networke.miseri.edu

**Coyote enters the room happily.**

FIRE STORM'S BACK!! WOO-HOO!!

**composes self.**

Sorry. But welocome back, FS!

Fleur: Ewww .... sory 'bout that. But I do write great nailbiters, don't I? ;)
Anyway, you're right that Alexander cast a spell on Rosanna to change her back and forth (it was her third birthday present). She mentioned in a story (I think it was "Honor Above All") that when she's in one form, the other one heals. So basically, the same theory about the retro-virus impersonating a normal bodily function applies to her, too.

Fire Storm: Welcome back, if I didn't mention it already. :)

I taped "Gargoyles" as well last Saturday (set my VCR while I worked). She does say "damn." It even *captions* that way ("My name is Coyote, and I am a non-deaf geek who watches TV with the captions on.").

Me? Horn in on *your* insanty? Never. I've got plenty of insanity of my own.

**Coyote does cartwheels out of the room.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:13:37 AM
IP: 207.91.254.66

To Everyone> Thanks for the compliments on my new job. It's been a long time coming! Whew! I am SO glad to be off unemployment status! :)

Off-Topic> Just finished the begining frame work for my Sailor Moon fansite, which will have my "Soldier Scouts" stories prominently featured. Will pass out the URL later after I've tested it.

That's all for now! Got to get to work!

Maintain and Check Six!

P.S. - BRIAN! Can you please get a CR pic of Coldstone in here? Not that I don't like using Broadway, but after all, Coldstone IS my nickname. :)
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:10:43 AM
IP: 26.ieway.com

SHAUNTELL - Here's the URL to the TGS mirror site again (which I have no official connection with whatsoever; I'm just a TGS staff member but have no *technical* role in putting anything up - Dumlao and Patrick Toman are the experts there).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 22, 1998 07:06:12 AM
IP: pn2-ppp-66.primary.net

Brian: Alas, Lady Mystic and myself have gone the way of Friend Jackal. We are never to be heard from again. :(
Thankyou for caring, though. We apreciate it. At least SOMEONE cares! <Fire Storm looks around the room, and everyone else looks away uncomfortably.>
Actually, though, we just have been VERY busy, and while upgrading the computers, we are having one helluva time getting both to work, ESPICIALLY my 400mgz.

More stories will get up, but I first need to get them off of my desktop. (Floppy, modem AND pcmcia are not working!)
I do have them on floppy (Thankx LM), but I think I have updated copies on my desktop.

Ravyn: Lady Mystic would like to get a copy of your picture.
Lady-Mystic@usa.net
And, no, Lady Mystic isn;t posting with me. She is WAY too busy to read with me. I just tell her when her name is mentioned, or if there is anything of interest.

Here I am, reading the CR's and enjoying my Nestle 'Cool Creations Exploding Pops', and lo and behold! GOliath is on the front! YES! Thats right! Run over to your local grocer and find this NEW gargoyles treat!
And check out the crappy crossword on the back!
Examples of the crossword:
ACROSS:
8. What gargoyle *Loves* to munch?
11. "Techno" is what gargoyles middle name?
DOWN:
3. What gargoyle takes it to the extreme?
8. Who gives "Bad Dog" A whole new meaning?
12. What part of a Gargoyle is used as a weapon?
(What part of a gargoyles is *NOT* used as a weapon? 12 down is supposed to be "Tail". Personally, I would have put "What body part is used to give female gargoyles extreme pleasure?" (Thank you Christine! :)
I know it is supposed to be for kids, but... GET A LIFE! It;s a joke!

Coyote: Spoiled fruit warnings?
Trying to mussle into my insanity, eh?
Or... maybe not. Keep up the good work!

Batya: CONGRATULATIONS from the two of us here!
<Hunter Fire Storm and his 20 Kwik-Clones pull out thier 125inch cannons and give the lucky couple a 21 gun salute.
They then aim at the lucky couple and fire 21 wedding cakes at them. Fire Storm then pulls out his Champagne gun and squirts a toast at the lucky couple.>
<) Thanks Galagher! (>

Oh yeah... Detroits own UPN 50 showed the Gargoyles movie on Saturday, 10-17/1998. Did I forget to mention that?
Got it on tape bonnie-way. And if Elisa didn't say Damn, I don't know what the hell she said. As soon as my desktop is fully working, I will post the video and audio of her swearing on my site.

ST: Voyager: Liked the epp, and LM even liked the drone "One" (He earned her respect.)
And I even felt sorry for 7 of 9 of 12 of 126

Green Baron: Girl Scouts? Hmm... reminds me of my sisters Girl Scout sleep overs. I was 15 and they were 13...
But I won't go there. Nothing happened, but nice dreams. ;)
But I was nice to them IRL. The whole lot of them were at the family cottage and I crossed the river and went into Algonac to get them some candy. I guess I am just a nice guy!

Green Baron: LM keeps nagging me to E-Mail you's. She says that I need more friends from outside work. She says that I talk about work in my sleep, but I don't believe her. And I don't care if she DID tape it, I STILL don't believe it was me on that tape!

British comedies: NO ONE can beat 'Monty Python's Flying Circus!'

DumlaoX: Want your MP3's on CD-ROM? Send your zip disks my way! I will transfer them for you! Free of charge if I can keep a copy. (437 MP3's?!? How many zip disks does that take up?) (heres what I have: 2 from Aqua, Fish heads, and the TGS MP3's.)
I tried to get a copy of those MP3's at the gathering, but never got around to it!
(THAT I can do with my laptop! Gotta love external drives!)

ALL: Yeppers... I have a CR-R, I can scan, transfer VHS to CD-ROM, and I can even cook! I offer all of those services (Except cooking) for you in here!
I have years of computer experience, and the equiptment to do it with. Plus, I am a salesman, so I know what crap people expect from me. But I don't give it. I try to be honest. Hell, I have even been certified (HP Small Business COnsultant. less than 300 in the world!) to treat customers well. Customers that came in for somthing small once are now long-time customers because of me.
So if you want somthing transfered onto CD-ROM, just let me know. And if I don't have the hardware here... Well, I can probally find someone who does.
<>WARNING! Personal Business Plugs behind!<>

Speaking of which... anyone want some low priced referbished Compaq Computers?

Green Baron: Still need a mouse? Want a track ball? (Like the one I had in New York.)

SJ: Did you tape Mercy Point? :)

MP3's: Hell, why don't we just compile a MASSIVE mp3 archive?
"The MP3's of the TGS readers collection." <G>
Order now! <G> (or is it?)


Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 03:50:38 AM
IP: dhcp152.visitus.net

*Fleur enters the comment room, dressed in army fatigues, carrying a huge laser cannon with a broad-sword attached to the top. Across her back hangs a c-shaped iron blade, one end is longer than the other, and very sharp.*
Just thought I'd drop in before I go help Wilek, Doug, Kitainia, the black Ravens, Traveller, SJ The Catholic School Girl Scouts, Tuxedo Dole *Blinks*, um, and anyone else who may have joined the fray.
Batya> Yea! *jumps in air* Congratulations! Long life and happiness to you both.
On the whole accent thing, I have to confess, I still cringe when I hear the way Dingo talks. *shudders* _Nobody_ I know speaks like that. I think the main reason I get uncomfortable when I hear (or read) so-called Australians talking is because this little voice inside my head goes 'we don't _really_ sound like that, do we?':) Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee) has a lot to answer for.
Everybody> Feel free to send me stuff. fics, pictures, whatever. Please, pretty please!
Coldstone> Congratulations! *jumps again* Ooh, all this good news! Too much! :)
Coyote> *holds up hands. her claws are bitten down to stumps* This is your fault! You are one mean bando to keep me hanging like this! :) Great 'fic. About the virus thing. I thought Alex cast a spell so Rosanna didn't turn to stone. *thinks hard* Does she heals when she changes? I can't remember. Anyway, in one of my fanfics, (still in creativity demon stage ATM) the gargoyles are infected with a virus that attacks them _when_ they are in a stone sleep as well as when they are awake, destroying the whole 'concrete cure-all' thing.
Heather> honey, you can talk to me anytime. Trust me when I say I know what it feels like. Word of advice - Keep your chin up when they're standing on your face to keep themselves out of the mud. You're better than they are, remember that.
TTFN!
*Fleur walks out of the comment room in the direction of the interrogation, pausing to jump up and down on a few wayward smurfs. The sound of smurf goo being scraped off feet echos as the CR door slams.*


Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 22, 1998 02:41:42 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

(Brian walks over to the interrogation and hands Doug a looped tape of "it's a small world after all" , and a walkman . )

Force him to listen to this for an hour , he'll talk .

Dragon's : Please do that story justice TGS , no fictional creature ranks hire than a Dragon as far as many people are concerned .

Accent : I know the fury that the horrible misconceptions of accents can be hard to bear , believe me I know . In movies I say grin and bear it , in text , I still have trouble with it but I find it more tolerable .

Coyote : Pretty good story . You really set the cliffhanger up well .

Coldstone : Congrats on scoring the job , over the summer I nearly ended up working the graveyard shiftat a computer company , I hope you do'nt have to do anything like that .

Wilek : The record I was referring to was the length of your last RP trip to the future .

Heather : Relax , we all feel down at times and I also am willing to listen if you feel the need to chew an ear .

(Brian turns to leave and is suddenly hit by an inspiration .)
It takes chemicals and vast quantities of power to make clones . We should check out any power surges or any large orders from the companies that produce the Chemicals . I'll check the power consumption angle . Someone else check the Chemicals .
(Brian runs out of the room glad to have something to occupy himself with while waiting for the compleion of the interrogation .)
The Rolling Calf / Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Thursday, October 22, 1998 01:29:48 AM
IP: 208.11.41.194

[No RP, just a quick reply.]

Shauntell Holm> Actually, Star Trek and Gargs can't be crossed over, unless you are willing to have it take place in crossed or alternate timelines: 1992-1996 were the dates for the Eugenics Wars, a series of wars between genetically-engineered humans that just about devastated Earth. If it matters, I have a theory that my species (gargs, of course) did in fact exist in the Star Trek universe; our numbers were greatly reduced in the aforementioned Eugenics Wars and we were essentially driven to extinction in World War 3--although this does not preclude the possibility of a colony of us escaping on a sleeper ship and colonizing a planet, and I think such a colony may exist in the 23rd or 24th century. I'm also convinced that the Federation knows about us; that we may in fact be members. As for WW3...<flips through his Star Trek Encyclopedia> I don't know when it began, but it ended in about 2079 and Earth was still recovering in the early 2100's. That's about all I know about WW3.
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:50:31 PM
IP: tnt-2-32-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Todd: I got your e-mail and I of course sent you a reply, but.. I tried using that link you gave me and I got a message saying that the link doesn't exist. Is there another web site where I can get the story? A web site that I might be familiar with that has the story and that link name?
To any one in general: I'm trying to dope out a time line for some fan fictions of my own, but there are some details I don't know. Some of those are; What year did Goliath die? And what were the circustances? What about the rest of the clan? And, ( this question has become some what of a pain to most, but... ), exactly how long does Elisa and Goliaths seperatio last? I'm eager to know for two reasons actually, not just that I hate the idea. I need to know so I can do my fan fiction around the event so I can plan the circumstances of my stories around it. I also need to know what happens on their ceremony and how long that takes and what it invovles. I know that for most of that I may need to wait and read the stories and find out that way, but what ever info you can give me now would be helpful.
Also, who out there is familiar with Star Trek? I learned of the third world war when Riker mentioned it, but is there anyone out there who can give me the details? How long did the war last exactly? When did it begin and when did it officially begin? Who were some of the most important figures in that war that any one would know of pertaining to Star Trek? The reason that I ask is that I'm trying to do some fanfic cross overs with Gargoyles and Star Trek. They are some of my favorite shows.
Oh yeah, before I go is any one here good with mixing languages? I'm trying to mix french and latin for a character in a story. He's actually an alien and is part of my gargoyles/Star Trek crossovers.
Thanks.

Shauntell Holm - [sgargoyle9]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:51:39 PM
IP: spider-tp064.proxy.aol.com

Thanks, Wilek! ;) I knew I forgot something.

Long-term garg illness> I take the concrete cure all to mean that it can heal only problems it's been exposed to. As in, a least one gargoyle has died of every illness known to man, until the spell(?) adapts to it. (like Borg) Don't get me on the bullets Brooklyn seems to attract, either. Guns were around long before he woke up, and the spell would have already dealt with a gunshot wound. And, also, traumatic tissue damage is traumatic tissue damage, whether it be from a an arrow, a sword, claws, or a gun. It's new diseases you have to worry about. Take it from me, most of my clan was killed by smallpox, just like the humans in our protectorate.

*wonders what the evil Elisa Lewinsky is doing, decides she doesn't want to know* Feel free to kill her when you do in Wilek Dark Mage. I couldn't bring myself to. She's just so bubble-headed, I felt sorry for her.
Seri
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:42:54 PM
IP: unit11a.miseri.edu

**Coyote enters the room, heading straight for the center.**

Heather: **hug** You look like you need one. Yes, we're friends here.
I tend to classify people I know into two groups: "precious," those who I could trust with anything; and "poseurs," those who would probably turn on me if it came down to me vs. them. Everyone in this room I consider precious. I have yet to meet any poseurs in here. Check last week's room ... they helped me out, too. And I truly hope you find more precious friends and less poseurs.

**Coyote hugs Heather one last time before leaving. Probably for the night.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:42:33 PM
IP: 207.91.254.29

*just spent an hour reading back posts* Whew!

Wilek> Thanks for the update, but I had read it in last week's room, sorry about that.

SJ> Oh, but it can get much stranger. You see, this chica wandered into my campus this week, and the good Sisters of Mercy wanted her gone, she's a bad influence on the students. I figure she's just right to ... ah ... distract Dark Mage Wilek. *swoops over the dark eyrie, dropping the clone Elisa Lewinsky into Dark Mage Wilek's arms* I don't have time to RP much this week, but I figured I'd help stop him in my own unusual way. :) Thanks for the political inspiration, Green Baron! :)

Congratulations to Batya. :) I'm sure you two are a great couple!

I'l put in my 2 cents, too! Tony Jay for the voice of Madoc! (Um, and me as Meave, I've never done an evil char before):)

And yes, I did read Minions, yesterday, so I'm no longer the biggest loser on the net! No spoilers, though, it's all been covered. :)

*wings out, it's almost dawn*
Seri
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:33:45 PM
IP: unit11a.miseri.edu

[Wilek, Raoul the half-garg critter from Alien, the Catholic School Girl Scouts (except Bernadette), Tuxedo Dole, and Traveler are in the dark aerie, SJ's former prison, after having defeated Thailog and Dark Mage Wilek's minions and chased off the two clones. SJ and Bernadette are out on their date, and Doug, Kitainia, the Black Ravens, and Miriam are speaking with Shallow Mouth.] Some of the previous posts conflict with what has already been posted regarding where SJ is and whether he's been rescued. Please stick to what I just wrote.

Traveler> Thanks for the Kentucky Fried Smurf. <chomp> Tastes like chicken. [Wilek gives some KFS to Raoul, who merrily gulps it down.]

Rosanna's disease and long-term garg illness> It could be an adaptive virus that absorbs some of the body's own genetic material and uses it to tailor itself to remain invisible to the body's defenses, effectively becoming part of the body (thus turning to stone when the gargoyle does).

MP3's> A good place to find very nice ones is www.classicgaming.com/castlevania.

GFW Archive troubles> Good thing I use the Avalon Archive.

Heather> Believe me, you've got real friends in here.

Well, now what do we do? Wait...SJ's dad is working with the clones?! I hate to interrupt SJ and Bernadette's date, but...he has to know. [CSG Ave Maria calls CSG Bernadette on her wrist comm and apprises her of the situation. Bernadette teleports herself and SJ back to the aerie and Traveler gives SJ a flamethrower.] We've got to get to SJ's lab before his dad does. Come on. [The CSG Scouts teleport everyone to SJ's lab. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:33:43 PM
IP: tnt-2-225-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Thanks you , guys. * blushes *
Only being a young teen is rough that people say. But it's just that I don't know who will be my friends. People pretend to be my friends. I want real friends. Not snobs that want something out of me.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:14:55 PM
IP: 167-52-182.ipt.aol.com

** Doug appears on the screen, talking to Shallow Mouth. They finish their conversation and then he comes forward. **

RP update: I just found out SJ's dad, or one of his many clones, is also working with Pastor John, Dark Mage Wilek, and Thailog. God only knows what they're planning to cook up. The guys we're interrogating still aren't talking, and for some reason they seem highly resistant to Lathrop and Linnet's charm and mental control abilities. Gubio just found a program that defeated the "Legion" virus, he will get back to decrypting the files after he sells it to Messrs. Norton and MacAfee for millions of bucks.

Welcome to all who've joined in our game, hope you enjoy yourselves.

Green Baron: I don't think I've done any Cajun accents on my stories. Gambit is one of the cameo-cast X-Men in the one that's finished but unposted (if anyone wants a copy, please ask me in an e-mail), but I think he only has one line and it doesn't have any Cajun-isms in it. Unless you count his nickname for Rogue. I have met some Cajuns in my life, maybe that's what you're referring to. Like Father Albert Haas, the Catholic friar I met in Taiwan who told me "if there's room for stinky sheep, odd-looking camels, and stupid donkeys in Jesus's stable, there's room in there for you." Could you please enlighten me as to how you think I know what you mean about Cajun accents?

Ravyn: Yes, my girlfriend is too nice to her friends and too mean to her enemies. Sometimes it's almost unbelievable. Oh well, for me she's the perfect woman. I may not deserve Lisa, but I'm still glad we are lovers and best friends. :)

SJ: Good. I'd hate to think you had to mutate a woman to get her good-looking. <evil chuckle>

Coyote: I too enjoyed Part 20 of G:CM. Keep up the good work, mano. I hope Rosanna survives, hope they beat the Rokkans, you get the idea. And btw, I'll soon have Deadalus and Furie, who are basically with some minor differences the New Olympus Clan versions of Tiber/Hudson and the Second, ready for your WCC!

More original fanfic character name origins: I've already mentioned where some of these characters get part of their names, so pardon me if I indulge myself and reveal more. <smile>
- Johnny's first name comes from the song "Walk on Life," since he dresses like a fugitive from a 70s or 80s disco movie, and that song's a piece of classic disco music. <breaks into song> "Here comes Johnny singing oldies goldies, here comes Johnny saying what he'd say, here comes Johnny singing I got a woman, turning all the nighttime into the day, they do the walk, they do the walk on life."
- His girlfriend Kara Ripley's last name is of course a reference to the heroine of the Alien movies, a woman as tough as she is.
- Doc's title-name, Mr. Perkins, is a reference to one of the main bad guys in the action flick Long Kiss Goodnight. I like the name, even if Doc's character is very far from being that of a bad guy.
- Seth's adopted last names, Bennet and Figaro, come from my favorite Dreamworks producer after Spielberg (since Greg left their company) and one of my favorite Italian musicals.
- Jenner Slovak gets his first name from the Rats of Nimh villain (another good guy with a bad guy's name) and his last name from my first college roommate.
- Big John Creambottom gets his name and his baseball bat from a bad-tempered champion baseball player I saw in a Garfield cartoon episode. The thug this name belongs to in my fanfic is an extremely retarded ogre, and he has to have a dumb name to go with that image. That name is the dumbest I could find. <grin>
- No, Nick Mackovic's name has nothing to do with the former coach of the UT Longhorns football team. It's a derivation of both Nicholas Maddox and Niccolo Machiavelli.
- Whoever can guess what movie I got gang thug Tyrone "Slash" Olsen's first name from wins a cyber-cookie.

Heather: Well, feel free to talk to us in here if you want to. <smile>

Mandi: You go ahead and enjoy writing fanfic. I will too, when I get back to it. :)

Okay, that's all for now. Later.
** Doug turns to grill Shallow Mouth for more information as the screen goes blank. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:41:27 PM
IP: fac-b-b9.lib.utexas.edu

Mandi: Yep, Halloween. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait.

Heather: You know, we all have open ears around here. Seeing your problem there, my ear especially is open to you. Similar experiences and all, you know what I mean, right? Please, feel free, go ahead and vent. God knows everybody else here does, right? **loud agreement from everyone present in the room.** I mean, even if you don't want to share with the assembly, I'm sure most of us are willing to let you bend our ear over e-mail, right? **somewhat quieter agreement.** Well ... at least I do.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:35:09 PM
IP: 207.91.254.60

**Mandi storms through the door and promptly closes it, pushing her shoulder to the door to keep it closed against the horde of fanfic characters her creativity demons have conjured. "For the last time, Cody, no! I am NOT submitting you to WCC! And yes, Drew, you still have to die!!"**

Hi all. As you can see, with the play over I've devoted a bit more time to fanfic...hehehe...

Coyote: I loved part #20! **claps as best she can while pressing most of her weight against the door** But we have to wait until Halloween? Awww...

Stephen: Congrats!!! Isn't employment nice?

Christine: I got that it was a compliment. If the incubus was going after Elisa, he'd only imitate the best to get what he wanted!

Heather: Don't you dare put yourself down for something like that. You haven't said anything stupid, IMO. Hey, I switched Fang and Wolf around completely once in here and had no clue until Missy pointed it out to me!

**She opens her mouth to continue, but the crowd on the other side of the door has grown in volume and size (characters from other shows are appearing!) and she nearly falls down.**

Excuse me a moment, please. And whip out the earplugs while you're at it.

**turning to the door** ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT! KEEP THIS UP AND I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE YOU ALL KILLED OFF AND NEVER WRITE YOU AGAIN! **The pounding, et al, stops.** Ahem. Where was I?

Actually, that's all. Figures. Now that my (gag) Discrete Math exam is done, I have some free time to **glances furtively at the door** w-r-i-t-e f-a-n-f-i-c.

**Mandi slips out the back door of the comment room. A moment later, we hear muffled shouts of: "There she is!" and the sound of crazed fic characters stampeding.**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:29:45 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Well, it's just I feel like the "outcast" of my school. And ppl usually don't want to have anything to do with me. I hardly have friends. :: frowns ::
I feel so pressured and.....I feel that I'm going out of my mind.
But all in all , I just need someone to talk to. My parents hardly want to talk.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:28:16 PM
IP: 203-214-177.ipt.aol.com

<Kyryn pops in>

Coyote> You got a deal. Oh, BTW you are welcome to use Kyryn in WCC. I posted the details earlier on the page, but I'll em them to you just to make sure- and I did decide to go with the hooves. I also hope to scan the pic sometime in the next week (I don't have a scanner of my own). If I do, I'll em that to you, so you can see exactly what my version of her looks like)

<Kyryn pops back out>
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:18:11 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Ravyn the only thing I don't accept is the Texas comment. Too many of our friends are those Back Eastern foreigners who talk funny. (Did you know there is no letter U in the Texas dictionary? It's Y'all.)

Coyote I know I have you. (BIG hug) You're bookmarked and one of the sites I love to hit. Also Kjay's (aka Mysteria), Coldstone's, Christina's and as many others as I can get to.
Not to mention all the nice people who have sent me stories this week. (Hugs and kisses).

Mr. X and Elisa. Sounds like fun. <G>

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:45:18 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

Kyryn: Close ... it's music related, but my Tommy Walker was not named after the bandleader.
Okay, I figured it out ... I misread some of the posts, thinking we were still talking about characters inspired by other characters (rather than real-life celebrities in fanfics). So this character was inspired by a fictional character. The only clue I will give (and it may be too much) is that the name is prominent in both Broadway and '60s British Invasion rock. There. I've said too much, I think.
According to my handy-dandy schedule ... our teams face each other on Halloween night in Dallas. We'll agree to disagree on that date, OK? ;)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:31:05 PM
IP: 207.91.254.60

<Kyryn glides in yawning. She notices the various holes left by MrNoying and mumbles a spell. The holes magically seal themselves. Wouldn't want someone to fall in <g>.

Wilek> Thanks for the compliment.

Green Baron> Your cat??? A minister in the ULC??? <shrug><g> Well, I've heard of stranger things...

MrNoying> Glad to see that you survived the floods. We didn't get anywhere near what SA got. I was kinda worried when I saw your location earlier and you hadn't posted since the flooding.

Stephen/Coldstone> CONGRATS! I wish you all the best. Kick he tires and light the fires!

Traveler> Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons.<g> I agree. They've got my curiousity up, too. But I guess we'll just have to wait. <sigh>

Coyote> It could also be a fast acting virus that is slowed by the healing of stone sleep.BTW, the name Tommy Walker wouldn't happen to refer to the bandleader of that name?Good luck with the 'Wings.I have to say that I'm a Stars fan myself, so we can hate each other when the teams are playing.

Deuce> Hope things get better. Send your vignettes my way, the em is below. Thanks.

Heather> Please don't put yourself down. No one here thinks that you are stupid. However, one of the reasons that Celebrities are usually named in fics is because the authors can get in trouble for using names or trademarks without permission. This is especially true in the case of living people. And, since they can't name the people in the fic, they also cannot acknowledge directly that the image is or is not someone in particular. You can find losts of examples of this in writing. Everyone 'knows' who the people are, but no one says so directly. So, in the interests of not getting sued or something, the TGS staff can't say so, one way or the other. I have enjoyed your posting so far, and I hope that you will continue to post.
(Note the above is my own opinion and I am not speaking directly for the TGS staff. However, I hope that this will clarify the issue)

<Kyryn looks around and sees that all is relatively quiet for the moment. She opens up a link to Coyote's page and dives in, closing it behind her>





Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:19:50 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

**Coyote jumps back in to add:**

Ravyn and everyone else waiting with bated breath for Rosanna's fate: Come to my site at midnight Halloween night. That's when the next volume will be posted. It's also the deadline for WCC commissions, so once Volume #21 is posted, recruitment will close.

**Coyote leaves once more.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:16:26 PM
IP: 207.91.254.60

**Coyote re-enters.**

Aerie: What I referred to was my first post of the week after the room wiped. We'd had a short, but sweet, discussion about what could possibly happen if Mel Brooks decided to do a "Gargoyles" parody. While some suggestions were very strange (Starsinger made the suggestion that no matter what outfit she was wearing, Elisa would look like she was undercover as a cheap hooker). My suggestion was that a scene of the Clan awakening would pan around the tower, revealing the Trio, Bronx, Angela, Victor, Hugo, Mushu, and any other stone-like characters we could think of awakening (as a tongue-in-cheek reference to other Disney works). Anyway, that was what I was talking about. Just to clarify.

**Coyote leaves.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:12:50 PM
IP: 207.91.254.60

*A UPS truck careens around the corner at high speed, shearing off a mailbox and a lawn gnome. It explodes through the side of Sevarius Jr.'s cell... all that is left are several odd little blue puddles and funny little white caps :)*

*whips out a three-foot long katana and prys open the bars for SJ to escape through, then turns to survey the carnage of little smooshed smurfies from the overturned jeep* Think they'll have that on the tour? :) *anyone know the reference? Considering the previous topic in here, everyone's bound to know!* :)

I'll join the lil cybergame, if no one minds. Frankly, sounds like fun! :)

STEPHEN< HEY, kewl! You DEFINTELY going to G99, then? I certainly hope to seeya there if you can go. Well, I certainly hope I can go, too, that'll help ... :P

TRAVELER< Heehee, knowing what's going on but not letting on to the fans is half the fun *I'm just teasing ... but it's true* *ducks before she gets smacked* ;P

COYOTE< Brookish scene? Where? If so, I'd like to read; seems many ppl in here like your stories so far, you must be good :)

And HEATHER< On Coyote's comment on ppl dissing themselves, I don't find it necessary; just because you make a mistake (which all of us are prone to do, of course! :) ) doesn't make you less than smart (Then you meet my History teacher, but he's a different story *winks at ya*) Don't feel bad, everyone's done it. :)

BTW, how's your African clan story going?

*a little tug is felt at her ankle. She looks down to see Papa Smurf with a pair of Ray-bans and an uzi, and a boe-knife strapped across his chest. She shakes her can of Dr. Pepper and pops it open in his direction, sending a 60 ft. stream at him. He goes flying into SJ to do with as he pleases* Have fun, SJ *wink* Try to keep the carnage at a Y-7 level *heehee*

*blows a hole in the wall and slips out, unnoticed by the band of ... strange, dark figures coming in her direction ...*

To Be Continued ...
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:02:37 PM
IP: spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com

Oops. Sorry about the double post. I see that's becoming a problem here.
Brianna - [kelbribrook@earthlink.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:52:30 PM
IP: pool011-max7.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Well, I lied. I'm back again already. :)

Theresa> Heh, heh...I just got your jokes! It seemed your experiment went pretty well, and it certainly gave me a good laugh! :) Of course, I shouldn't laugh too hard, 'cuz half those things can apply to Arizonans too...*grin* Thanks! :)
Ravyn
Arizona
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:51:53 PM
IP: svm-ts2-8.c2i2.com

Coyote> I enjoyed reading part 20 of WWC. Very nice.
DX> I don't care *what* you say! I am CONVINCED that that was Jeff Goldblum! Nothing you say or do will change my mind!
Brianna - [kelbribrook@eartthlink.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:50:51 PM
IP: pool011-max7.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Coyote> I enjoyed reading part 20 of WWC. Very nice.
DX> I don't care *what* you say! I am CONVINCED that that was Jeff Goldblum! Nothing you say or do will cahnge my mind!
Brianna - [kelbribrook@eartthlink.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:50:39 PM
IP: pool011-max7.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Coyote> Wow. Another impressive addition to the Clan Manhattan series! How could you just leave us all hanging...again?!? Oh, well, it was still a powerful story. If anyone out there hasn't read it yet, get over to Coyote's place and read it!!

Okay, _now_ I'm gone. **Ravyn leaves. Still grinning.**
Ravyn
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:35:56 PM
IP: svm-ts2-8.c2i2.com

**We see Sevarius Jr. rifling through his closet, in an attempt to pick out an outfit to wear for his date tonight...**

Let's see, I know I left my top hat somewhere...

Well, life in the comment room is goin' pretty good for me. Sure there was that little capture/imprisonment/threat of death thingie, but my buds here cleared that up. Plus, I've got a date with one of Green Baron's CSG ninjas! Maybe it's my Brad Pitt good looks....

Doug: Nope, I didn't mutate my girlfriend. (Or rather, my pop didn't mutate her, he's the one who liked doing that) Her good looks are all her own.

Uh oh. I hope she isn't reading this! Bernadette, we gotta go now, quick, before she catches us! Ah, the life of a super stud!

**SJ, luckily, remembers to put on some pants as he grabs Bernadette by the hand and rushes out of the comment room**
Sevarius Jr. (with Bernadette)
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:35:33 PM
IP: 207-172-52-48.s48.tnt1.brd.erols.com

**Ravyn's grinning again. Big surprise. ;) **

Lisa> Thank you! You are just too nice! :)

DumlaoX> *bonks him on the head playfully* Just rotate the darn picture if you have to! I have no idea how it ended up sideways; probably something I did when I first scanned it. Oh, well. And thanks! You know, it's weird, everyone keeps saying we look *cute* together...;)

Green Baron> I liked your site! I got to learn a lot about you and I really loved the clan Forsyth stuff as I came in. And I'm sending a picture to you too now, so watch for it!

**Ravyn ducks out so she can go read Coyote's latest...**
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:24:23 PM
IP: svm-ts2-8.c2i2.com

**Those annoying cultists and the Jehova's Witnesses have been dispatched. That will teach you to knock on my door at 5AM. Tuxedo Bob Dole makes his exit followed by the Catholic schoolgirl Scouts. In addition, Seacrius, Jr. has a date with Csg Scout Bernadette. BTW, the leader is named Ave Maria. the otehrs are named Therese, Bernadette, Angelica,a nd Brigette, after some noted female saints, and Mother Angelica, my favorite talk show host and she wears not only a habit, but the full-habit, like a good nun should:) Well it seems order has been restored, but there is still one Wilek clone left and Thailog to contend with**

Meet the Minions> This was pretty good. I can't wait to see the rest of the series as it unfolds. As for the accents, try an episode in Cajun Country. doug may have an idea about what I'm talking about, I guarountee.

Coyote> You are Correct. You can have your cookies, but I need some ID first :)

Mr Noying> Better luck next time.

Ravyn> Could you e-mail me a pic, too? I noticed you signed my guestbook. Thanks. How did you like my site?

**Peace and serenity return to our friends, as we leave this tranquil scene**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 07:08:45 PM
IP: 141.164.72.83

**Mr. Noying enters the room with a limp, and several bruises have appeared after the severe thrashing he took the other day after being thrown through several walls. He starts to say, "I'm here to help!" But instead, he can only wonder, "Bob Dole?"**

Well, to the lucky person who just got a job, congrats. Hope you enjoy it.

To the issue of accents, I figure that they are appropriate if I writer can do them properly. If not, it's fine to go without them, the reader can imagine them in.

Jeez, do I like this picture of Brooklyn's family or what?

Anybody know of a method for Macintosh sent "attached" files to be read by a PC? I'm trying to send artwork, but it keeps coming out as garbage on the other end...

The cyber-cookie thing isn't fair! I could have named where Dole's quote came from, but by the time I came on, it had already been answered twice! Pooh...

And again, I'm sorry about the double post the other day, it WAS an accident...

**Mr Noying is about to elaborate further and question the man who appears to be Bob Dole, but his attention is distracted by something bright and shiny. The others in the group sigh at Mr Noying's apparently short attention span, and then realize the shiny object he started playing with was a trap... The floor opens up beneath them...**
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 06:29:24 PM
IP: spider-we082.proxy.aol.com

**Coyote is still standing there, kind of shellshocked after his big reply but he comes to long enough to add:**

Heather: ehh ... I *really* hate to bring this one up now ... but I kind of have a minor pet peeve about people calling themselves stupid, stemming from my childhood (again). Me personally, I don't have that opinion.
Actually, that's not true. The pet peeve is with people who insult themselves. Trust me on this one, it doesn't help your self-image in any way if you deprecate yourself to us. Please ... don't. At the very least, you'll make me feel better.

That's all.

**Coyote finally has the ability to move his legs. He walks out of the room, shaking out his feet occasionally to get the circulation restarted.**




Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 06:27:53 PM
IP: 207.91.254.54

DX : Well you used Jeff Goldblum . Because Jeff wears black in both movies of Jurassic Park and the Lost World ! And I can see , hear, then people might think I'm stupid. I'm mostly been called 'stupid' all of my life.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 06:21:22 PM
IP: 171-10-157.ipt.aol.com

Doug / Celebrities in Fanfic > yeah, I've always harbored a worry in the back of my brain that someday I'll get in trouble for having the incubus in "Black Roses" appear to Elisa as Denzel Washington. Kind of hard to explain that it was meant as a compliment! ; ) Oh, and if you don't get your book by this weekend, let me know!

Stephen > congrats again on the job!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 05:26:37 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**Coyote enters the room. His face blanches as he reads the tremendous amount of posts he has to reply to now.**

EEEEEEPP!!

**controls self**

Oh-kay then. Let's see ...

Writing accents: I believe I already covered this one. Anyway, I figured it was kind of cliche to have Griff blurt out "blimey" at any point. I should have known it when I wrote it, but oh well ...

Ravyn: Trust me, as far as I'm concerned 5'3 isn't short. Consider that I live with my 5'2 mother and 4'11 grandmother.
Then again, 6'2 isn't tall to me, either (I'm an even 6').

Aerie: hmmmm ... I'm just wondering what you thought of my Brooks-ish "Gargoyles" scene.

Britcoms: My only familiarity with British TV comedy, I must confess, is "Are You Being Served?" and a couple eps of "Monty Python's Flying Circus," so I don't really have an opinion. Although ... probably the funniest Britcom scene I ever saw was in an ep of AYBS when a super-attractive nurse shows up to give the staff their yearly physicals ... prompting all of the male sales clerks (including the white-haired effeminate one) to launch into kamikaze push-ups. Suddenly the effeminate one asks:
"Wait a minute, why am I down here?"
The reply? "She's homeopathic, remember?"
"Oh." And he continues pushing.
(And I apologize for that description, but for the life of me I can't remember the names of the char.'s on that show. Which leads to ...)

Homage character names: I already mentioned Lina. Another character who hasn't shown up yet ... and probably never will ... was an old high-school boyfriend of Rosanna's named Tommy Walker. (A cybercookie to whoever can figure out where I came up with that name.)

Green Baron: If you're referring to Bob Dole saying "I ... I just can't win," it comes from his *Visa* CheckCard commercial. And as Doug and Kitainia can tell you, I'm an Oreo addict. (I've won cybercookies from them in the other room.)
And please, feel free to sample my work. Mine aren't nearly as daunting in length as someone like Christine's are, they might be just the right length for a distraction for a busy college student.

Coldstone: WAY TO GO, DUDE!! WOO-HOO!!

**composes self**

Sorry. But congrats on the new job!

Traveler: You think that feels bad? That's nothing. 42 years between Stanley Cups ... now that *really* sucks the big tamale. (And I'm sure NY Rangers fans will agree, as they had to wait an *extra* ten years between their last two Cups. At least the Wings have now won two in a row ... in case you can't tell I'm a rabid Wings fan.)

Theresa: Hey, you've always got me ... I can't post to the Archive anyway.

All right, NEW TOPIC!!

Thinking about my character's current affliction, I'm wondering about the theories anyone would have in here on what it would take to make a gargoyle sick for an extended period of time. And I don't mean all night long until they go into stone sleep ... I mean even beating the "concrete cure-all."

The theory I'm running with right now is a scientifically engineered retro-virus, which takes a long time to gestate and can hide itself as a normal bodily function during stone sleep. As a result of this retro-virus, Rosanna's about to lose the right half of her face ... and it's slowly killing her. It acts kind of like a cancer.

Anybody else wanna jump in on this?

**Coyote sighs a loud breath of relief, then curses silently when he realizes that there's probably another four posts up in the time it took him to reply to all of those.**




Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 05:09:14 PM
IP: 207.91.254.96

Deuce >> I find Mercy Point on UPN. So far on Tuesdays. All Salli's character does is get caught suckyfacing some doctor in the closet. I know she's up to better things and more intelligent boyfriends.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 04:23:50 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

HEATHER-- No one called you stupid. Thing is, though, who said we used Jeff Goldblum, or Jurassic Park for that matter? We could have used someone LOOKING and TALKING like Jeff in a movie LIKE Jurassic Park but it was never clearly stated in the story that it was indeed that. See, allusions to things don't necessarily mean that we used them at all >:)

AOTN-- First off, don't scan a pic in BMP form. That format is usually too big for it's own good, even if the pic itself is small. Always save the pic in either JPG or GIF formats for delivery over the net. As for the scanner problem, try scanning the file again and save it in JPG format. Then check it on your computer before you do anything else with it. If you can view it there on the computer, then remember where the file is and the filename. Boot up your e-mail program and type up a few words before attaching the pic. Then send it off. It usually works best that way.

RAVYN-- *tilts his head to the side to get a better view of the pic* How'd you two get to stand on the wall like that :P

Kidding aside, I have to say that your boyfriend is one lucky man. You 2 look very cute together. (Wait, that's something Alison would say. Heh, starting to pick up her sayings already <:)

MP3-- Most places I know of don't support streaming MP3. I just download them first before playing them. Finding them is a painful but rewarding task. Mostly I do search engines for mp3 sites and follow links to get what I want or happen to stumble upon. It also helps to know people willing to give you mp3's. Got a few IRC people that helped me build up my collection.

BTW, this isn't counting the CDs I have. If I go and rip them up and convert them to MP3, I'd have well over 1000. I only rip them if people have a request for a certain song that they want. And if I don't have it, I go searching the web for it. Which makes me almost tempted to see what MP3s people have.

STEPHEN-- Congrats on the job. May it pay you well and may you keep it for a long long time.

DRAGONS-- Will we explain more of them in the series? If I told you that, I'd have to hurt you >:)

DEUCE-- I'm working on that. If I can get this damn script to work right, then the rest will come very easily.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 01:35:14 PM
IP: dhcp65.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Sorry I haven't been around for a while. I've been too busy failing math tests and having my life ruined *slight exaggeration*. Bah!

*** SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT *** I wrote a story today in English. While the teacher was talking. (English is very boring). It's part of my "Vignettes" series. For those of you not familiar with my stuff (99.9% of you), "Vignettes" is a series of excessively short Gargoyles stories I write. They all take place in alternate universes and none are longer than two pages (most only about 3/4 of a page). Most of them don't even feature characters from the show, at least as we know them. I've written three so far: "Metamorphosis", "Sunset", and this morning's endeavor "Betrayal". I can't seem to get my FTP client working (blast!), so if you want a copy EM me. I'll try to post it somewhere next week.

The only British shows I watch are the ORIGINAL "Whose Line Is It Anyway?"-- *Deuce has vision of borrowing Traveler's flamethrower for use on Drew Carey*-- and "Monty Python". The rest of the little TV I watch is mostly North American.

BATYA> Big, huge congratulations from me!

BRIAN> Boy, do I have reception horror stories. Like the drunk guy who jumped off a table and danced on his broken ankle for three hours. Doc said it looked like his foot was run over by a semi.

DUMLAOX> Could you do us all a big favor? This chat window on the add comments page is a little cramped. Think you could make it about twice as high as it is now? With longer and longer posts and RPs becoming the norm, this would make proofreading a lot easier.

OK, guys. On which channel is Mercy Point? Give the info. Give it now! NOW! *slap* Ugh. Sorry.

RE: Role Playing> Oh, count me out of this round. My Internet access for this week has been dramatically cut. Chop-chop. Chop. *shakes head* I'm in a silly mood today. That's my way of coping with the huge personal problems that have surfaced lately, which I am NOT going into here. The plus side is that I can drive everybody crazy!

*Deuce's tail turns into a Tigger-like spring and he bounces around the room before leaving*
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
CanadaWednesday, October 21, 1998 01:18:14 PM
IP: dsle01371.adsl.telusplanet.net

MDY thanks for explaination. I store, what for the time being is useless information, until I have a computer and will need the information.

My current plans are Gathering 99 and then a computer.

My thanks Doug.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:22:50 PM
IP: proxy-361.public.rwc.webtv.net

Starsinger: Glad to oblige. :) If anyone else wants stories, just drop me an e-mail.

SJ: Are you sure your girlfriend's looks are natural? I mean, you do have a history of mutating your dates and you did kinda tell us you got your Brad Pitt looks through genetics. <smile> Just kidding, maybe it's true, maybe it ain't. Is it? :)
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:49:49 AM
IP: hd58-131.hil.compuserve.com

Starsinger>

An MP3 file is an MPEG level 3 compression file (eg .MP3)

It's a media compression format, widely used online for distributing music, a 6mb wav will usually compress into just over 2mb with no noticible loss in quality. You can get the TGS themes in this format. Playback is accomplished through something like WinAmp (which also plays tons of other formats - and its free) or Xing Mpegplayer.


MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKWednesday, October 21, 1998 10:36:57 AM
IP: 195.195.164.140

I'm just gonna step outta character for a minute and say I love this roleplay. Smurfs, Catholic School Girl/Sailor Moon Ninjas, evil clones, and now Bob Dole. It doesn't get much crazier than this!

Kitiana: My girlfriend looks so much like Keri Russell from Felicity it's scary.

Oh well, back to the roleplay :)
Sevarius Jr.
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 09:17:01 AM
IP: 129.174.56.154

Ok people, as a non-techie, what's an MP3??

With the archieves down I have to thank all you nice people for sending me stories. It's nice to have something to read. :)

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 08:37:24 AM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net

**<The evil clones dissapear in a flash of Orange light and two doors open. Jehova's Witnesses and street mimes fill the room, while all Tuxedo Bob Dole mutters, "I..I just can't win."> Then from out of a darkend corner of the dungen a dark energy vortex opens and Traveler comes running through into the dungen with flame-thrower in hand and looks franticly at everybody else. "Um...where are the smurfs? I had just finished clearing them out of the CR when I heard that S.J. was having a little problem with them and the fact that he was being held captive." *He then notices the Jehova's Witnesses and street mimes.* "Never mind, these will do quite nicely instead. *Face-plate again twists into a manical smile* Oh, and S.J., I brought you a little something so you could play to." *Pulls another flame-thrower from somewhere inside his black duster and tosses it to S.J.* "Every some-times mad scientist should have one." *Whispers* "Especially handy when some of the more rambuncious "subjects/experiments" start to get out of hand, if you get my drift.>:)" *Traveler then procedes to assist the rest of the group in battling (barbequing) the hordes Thailog and Wilek the Dark Mage released. At one point in the fight he come up next to Tuxedo Bob Dole and says: "You should have won! But look at it this way, at least American Express wanted you in their check card commerical!"**

I hope nobody minds but I have decided to join in the fun.

>Batya the Toon- Congratulatins and best wishes.

>Kitainia- That's alright, the most important meal of the day is that first jolt of caffene. And thank you for the vote of encourgement. BTW, if you ever scan some pics of your Ninja into the computer send them my way. From your description of all the decals, bummper stickers, etc. it must be a sight to see.

>Green Baron- I agree, Jay Leno's 'monolog?' and skits have been very entertaining, and I know you've heard some cracks about the annual winter weather here from him. But trust me on this one, (not to deface the team any because it could get me killed up here if any local fans read this. Don't laugh, I'm serious, the name Scott Norwood is considered a four letter word and he was BURNED AND HUNG in effegy several times after the Super Bowl loss.) he has made at least a few jokes about the team. (Not that going to 4 consecutive Super Bowls is'nt amazing, but losing all four as well?)

>DumlaoX- Thanks for clearing up that contract question. *Rolls his eyes underneith his mask* You TGS Staffers just have to taunt us like this don't you?

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, even more dragons, *stops suddentaly and smacks himself* Dang! I'm still doing that! TGS Staffers- Do you have any idea how anoying this is becoming? I don't think it'll stop until their role is expanded and explained in the series. Any ideas on how long this will be? *hint hint*

>Doug, DumlaoX, anyone else- Speaking of mp3's I have quite a few myself. Just thought I'd mention that.

**Traveler returns to the battle happily torching his way through the ranks of Jehova's Witnesses and street mimes. He stops for a second as he remembers something.* "Hey Wilek! Here's that bucket of Kentucky Fried Smurf you wanted!" *He throws the bucket over to Wilek* "Enjoy!" *That done he returns to the slaughter as the screen fades out.**
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 04:28:33 AM
IP: 200-168-143.ipt.aol.com

**As the falcons attack, a pen?? hits one and kills it. At the entrance is someone in a tuxedo and and cape. It looks like...Bob Dole? It's Tuxedo Bob Dole to the recue. "Fear not, Bob Dole won't let some evil clones kill you." Tuxedo Bob Dole's pen returns to his right hand. He takes the pen and starts firing laser beams at the falcons(it's a laser pen), disintergarting all of the cloned falcons. The odds are even, and Thailog, Wileks Dark Mage, Gore, Gingrich, Gephardt, Blackadder, Baldrick, and Percy are outnumbered**

Steven> Good luck on your job and what future it holds for you. I need a job, though I go to College for free and I get a scholarship as lagniappe, but $$$$$$$$$

Coyote> That sounds like a winner. I need to start reading your Universe. Christmas Break, definitely.

Now, i must await for a test on Hinduism. BTW, how many Hindu gods run Quickie Marts :)

**Ave Maria and Csg Scout Angelica use their Holy Rosary power to make Wilek Baldrick explode and send his clothes flying at all the other clones. The stench is unbearable and they are all killed except Thailog and Dark Mage. Dark Mage says, "You amy have won this round, but I have a few surprises for you. The evil clones dissapear in a flash of Orange light and two doors open. Jehova's Witnesses and street mimes fill the room, while all Tuxedo Bob Dole mutters, "I..I just can't win."**

Ten cyber cookies for whoever can get that reference :)

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:49:37 AM
IP: 201-25-203.ipt.aol.com

Ok...I just finished reading the lastest TGS (I know, I know I wasn't home Monday night but for a very good reason) and I thought that it was pretty good. I was wondering when Griff and King Arthur were going to enter the picture. Question: It is really possible to influence people into creating a cult that easily or was there a little magical help there? Now we all just have to wait till next monday to see what happens...don't you just hate me for reminding you about the wait? Anyway I now have a bunch of King Arthur books to look for and I would like to thank everyone who helped.
Man this place fills up fast. There were like only 12 other comments when I was last here on Sunday. Took me forever to go over them.

Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:47:02 AM
IP: pm1-1.sma.silcom.com

Okay, no fanfare needed, just the plain announcement:

As of today, I am no longer on the unemployed list! A Graphics Firm/Web Design House called me tonight, and told me I was hired! I HAVE A JOB!!! :::Does the BIG CHEER!!!:::

I'll still be working on TGS, but now I am Soooo Happy! I can pay bills! I can save money for the Gathering! Whoo-HOO!

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:42:29 PM
IP: 94.ieway.com

sorry about the double post... accidentally double clicked...
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
SanAntonio, Texas, US
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:35:32 PM
IP: spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com

**Mr Noying , waring a fashionable blue jacket comes flying through the left wall of the room. He manages to yell out a cry for help as he then continues flying straight through the right wall, and out of sight. Someone just threw him really hard...**

Hmm... It stopped raining finally. For those of you that don't know, San Antonio is kinda flooded right now. It is VERY wet outside...

Congrats to the engaged, hope you and your fiancee are happy...

I agree, Tony Jay is THE voice for Madoc, and I don't think anyone is disputing that.

Also, feel free to throw me into the story, but try to avoid knocking me through any more walls. That hurts.

**Mr. Noying comes walking back in through the newly made hole in the right wall. His fairly fashionable blue jacket is now ripped to shreds, and he is not happy. He offers the threat. "All right buddy, I DARE you to try that again!" His taunt is replied by a fierce thrashing, and a new hole is suddenly made in the front of the room. Mr Noying realises a little to olate he is out of his leage, and hopes for help to come soon...**
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
SanAntonio, Texas, US
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:30:36 PM
IP: spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com

**Mr Noying , waring a fashionable blue jacket comes flying through the left wall of the room. He manages to yell out a cry for help as he then continues flying straight through the right wall, and out of sight. Someone just threw him really hard...**

Hmm... It stopped raining finally. For those of you that don't know, San Antonio is kinda flooded right now. It is VERY wet outside...

Congrats to the engaged, hope you and your fiancee are happy...

I agree, Tony Jay is THE voice for Madoc, and I don't think anyone is disputing that.

Also, feel free to throw me into the story, but try to avoid knocking me through any more walls. That hurts.

**Mr. Noying comes walking back in through the newly made hole in the right wall. His fairly fashionable blue jacket is now ripped to shreds, and he is not happy. He offers the threat. "All right buddy, I DARE you to try that again!" His taunt is replied by a fierce thrashing, and a new hole is suddenly made in the front of the room. Mr Noying realises a little to olate he is out of his leage, and hopes for help to come soon...**
MrNoying - [MrNoying@aol.com]
SanAntonio, Texas, US
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:30:13 PM
IP: spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com

**Coyote enters the room half-conscious.**

Sorry about this post, it's a shameless plug. I'll reply to everybody else tomorrow afternoon after I get off work (I need sleep immediately, I work at 6 AM tomorrow.).

Anyway, Gargoyles: Clan Manhattan volume #20 is now up at my site. Clicky on my name link to drop yourself in the midst of "The Storm."

And please excuse my French for saying this, but DAMMIT!! Every time Salli's on that stupid show I have to work!! (Fortunately enough they re-air it on Sundays here ... oh no, I work Sunday, too! AAAAIIIIGHHH!!! Could anyone find it in the kindness of their heart to send me a copy on video (if they have it on tape) of the pilot and tonight's episodes of Mercy Point? I'll even pay you for it, if you want.)

One last thing ... please excuse anything that may be perceived as "disgusting" in the new story. You have to realize, Rosanna's pretty much deathly sick in this one.

**Coyote leaves. Off to bed ... for about five hours.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:28:01 PM
IP: 207.91.254.42

In my last post, forget the "several hours" part; I read it before I read the Green Baron's post.
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:10:33 PM
IP: tnt-2-231-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

[The screen shows Wilek enroute to the dark aerie where SJ is being held. On his way there, he picked up Raoul, the half-gargoyle critter from Alien that SJ made for him. Just in case. He arrives at the entrance hall of Thailog and Wilek The Dark Mage's aerie, and stops just long enough to speak.]

SJ> I'm glad you feel that way about being in this. And bugs bother me too. (At least my friend Jake isn't in there. He has a full blown phobia about bugs.)

Brian> <<Hope you didn't chafe too badly. But it could be worse, just look at your rescuers. Hope you remembered to get phone numbers.>> As with your reference to a "previous record", I'm not sure what you mean.

Dumlao> I am SO GLAD you mentioned WinAmp. I have 10 MP3's, counting my copy of the instrumental version of the Timedancer theme. The other nine MP3's are remixes of music from the Castlevania games. DANG, you have a lot of MP3's. Where do you get them? How do you get them to stream to your hard disk instead of having to download the whole thing? I wonder when the instrumental versions of the main Gargs and Dark Ages themes will come into being...Life Sciences? Hmm, maybe you and SJ can work together when the Scouts and I get him out of here. ^_^ (Med doctor? MAD doctor! Hee hee hee!)

Doug> Well, SJ had been involved earlier, by creating and deploying the clone degenerative virus. In fact, that's why Thailog and the Dark Mage are so ticked off at him and I have to help rescue him. (Don't worry, he'll be rescued very soon. I've got several hours left and I can see him from here.)

Heather> I'm glad you mentioned "Fleeting Encounters", I was ROTFLMTO through most of that ep!

Well, I have to do this. [Wilek and Raoul burst into the dark aerie aright before the door slams shut, and see Thailog and Dark Mage Wilek about to use their falcons to kill SJ and the Scouts. The bad guys turn and see the garg and alien, and immediately release over fifty more falcons into the cavernous room. Good thing Wilek packed a gun. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 11:08:15 PM
IP: tnt-2-231-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**The smurfs are now in Sevarius Jr.'s cell. The room is filled with Schubert's Ave Maria mixed with the Sailor Moon theme music. The smurfs resume their natural shape of five girls in very formalized Catholic schoolgirl uniforms. The leader speaks, "You're troubles are over, Anton. I am Ave Maria, leader of the Catholic schoolgirl scouts, ready to right worngs, including yours."**

Doug> Great rules. I'm surprised that you plan taht far in advance. My friend and I did tapings where we had some wierd events and just went along with them. The villain's sidekick was Ted Baxter, and they once took over F-Troop. Of course, in the end of every episode, he died and went to Hell, but he always kept escaping. It was really odd. Too bad I don't have the tapes around.

Batya> My cat is a Minister in the Universal Life Church, if that helps. Of course, I imagine you probably want a more traditional wedding. I need to tell that odd story of Attila's ministry. it's amazing what is on-line, nowadays.

BTW, does anyone want to join in with teh inasanity of our rescue?

**Just as soon as Sevarius Jr, is freed, Wilek dark Mage and Thailog appear with their falcons. I guess tehy weren't gonna give him an honest 24 hrs. To be Continued**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New orleans, Louisiana, USA
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:56:40 PM
IP: 166-68-92.ipt.aol.com

** The screen lights up with a picture of Graham and the captured rednecks being interrogated by Ravens Shap (good cop) and Shauna (bad cop). So far they're not talking. Kitainia, who is watching the proceedings, sighs and turns to face the Comment Room. **

Well, we know they're working for Thailog and his associates. We just have to get them to tell us where his new base is, and wham, we got him. Hope that doesn't take too much longer. Everyone will be glad to know Shallow Mouth, who until recently was Pastor John Gould's tax adviser and our spy in his far right-wing religous gang of jerkheads, survived their attempt to kill him. Thanks to Brian and Wilek for their assistance. S.M. is still recovering, but soon he will be back to normal and be able to tell us all he knows about Thailog. It seems Gulliermo and the VCNs, Dark Mage Clone Wilek, Pastor John's bunch, my jerk ex Rodney, and possibly even more evil villains have joined forces with Thailog for some reason. I don't know how it came about, but one thing's for sure. We Ravens and our allies have to somehow stop whatever it is they're up to. :)

Ravyn: We got the picture, thanks for sending it. Coyote's drawing looks just like you. <smile> And Kyle's as lucky a man as you are a woman. That's my opinion, anyway. I think Doug's is similar.

The Naming Game: I think humans have always named gargoyles since we first knew about the race, it's just easier for us to name things. Gargoyles eventually got used to and also adopted the custom, probably before the 16th century. This is evidenced by the Japanese clan of that era being as used to names as the gargoyles of Ichimura are today (cf. Timedancer). Probably some time between the end of the first Hunters' massacres, and the Reformation is when most gargoyles formally adopted the custom. That's my bet, anyway, based on the evidence in the show and TGS's flashbacks and Timedancer episodes. Feel free to debate it, everyone. :)

Brian: Motorbike acessories? Well, my helmet's dark blue with the decaled inisgnia of a winged unicorn on each side. No, it doesn't look anything like Una, it looks more like a white Pegasus with the horn of a unicorn and a bright red mane and tail that look like fire. :) Those are the only decals I have on the helmet. On the bike's chrome itself I have several decals of various desert plants and animals (since I originally learned to ride a motorcycle in the Nevada and Mojave deserts), the Hell's Angels symbol of course (a group of them taught me), and various band insignias from groups I like to listen to. Including Journey, Duran Duran, the Police, Duncan Sheik, Queen, the Stones, and Metallica. And stickers from shows I like, such as Gargoyles, Buffy, and Star Wars. Then of course there are my faux snakeskin saddlebags, a Garfield sticky-doll tied onto the area between the handlebars, and hanging out of the fuel tank is one of those old Exxon tiger tails. :) I also have four bumper stickers, one on the front, one under the taillight, and one one on each saddlebag. They say, "Freedom Forever" (left side), "The Christian Right is Neither" (right side), on the back "S*&t Happens," and on the front "I Brake for Nobody." The last one is of course only a reference to the movie Spaceballs. I really ride the Road Moccasin safely, at least 90% of the time. <smile> Does this satisfy your curiosity?

Sevarius Jr.: Hate to leave you hanging, hope you soon get out of there. No, we didn't watch Mercy Point tonight. Our TV antenna doesn't pick up the station it's on very well, no matter how we adjust it, it's still a static-filled transmission. Oh well, we did watch Buffy and Felicity, both of which are very good shows, in my opinion. One thing I thought of as I watched the preview of next week's Felicity episode (apparently she's gonna get held up by gang members on Halloween night) concerns Gargoyles (since both shows happen in the same city). Permit me to indulge in a creativity demon.

Felicity: My God, they've got guns! (scared look, begging the guys to not shoot her)
Bad Gang Member: Shut up! Gimme your wallet!! (waves gun around menacingly)
(Suddenly Goliath and the clan leap in from above, roar loudly, and kick serious gang member butt as Felicity runs away screaming.)

(Later, Felicity is back at her dorm.)
Felicity: (Runs in and looks at her really weird roommate) Mona, I just saw gargoyles, real live gargoyles! They're real, do you realize what this means?
Mona: I know gargoyles are real. My friend Birdie (sorry Christine!) introduced me to the locals a long time ago.

Really can't everyone just see that happening? I can. If Gargoyles and Felicity were to cross over, of course. <smile> Oh well, that's all I have to say now. Later.

** The image fades out as Kitainia turns back to the interrogation. **
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:56:08 PM
IP: dallas-dnzoi-079.tx.compuserve.net

**Sevarius Jr. is still chained to the wall of the evil clone's dungeon. He suspiciously eyes a bug as it crawls across the floor, a look of disgust on his face. He slams his foot down, squashing it flat.**

HA HA HA! I got you! Who's the man, huh? Who's the man? Tell your friends! Oh what, you can't? That's cause you're DEAD! HA HA HA!

**SJ shakes his head.**
I'm....I'm sorry. I guess the pressure's getting to me.
Brian, your comments about giant cockroaches didn't help much either! I swear, I think the ones in here are starting to gang up on me...You hear that? They're in the walls, man. They're in the walls!

No. No, I...I must be strong.

Doug: Good rules, but I don't mind being stuck here in the hell Wilek has put me in (I mean that in the best possible way Wilek!). It's kinda fun, plus I find it an honor that someone wants to include me in their rp's. Just so long as you don't kill me. I need my life. Besides, I didn't have much else planned for tonight. At least this is exciting.

Hey, did anyone else here watch Mercy Point tonight? This dungeon may have mean bugs, but the clones have set up a real sweet tv set in here. I mean, they got HBO and everything! Anyway, if you saw the first 2 minutes of Mercy Point, you saw....take my breath away....Salli Richardson in a state of *almost* undress. Ah...enough to fulfill my Elisa fantasies for quite some time.

Wait! What's that? Hear that?

**A faint scratching can be heard from behind the wall.**

What is that?

**All of a sudden, a brick comes loose from the wall, and out of the hole pops numerous...smurfs.
SJ screams. "OH DEAR GOD NO! I THOUGHT THE ROACHES WERE BAD ENOUGH! HELP, SOMEBODY, GET ME OUTTA HERE!"
SJ frantically struggles against his chains as the smurfs happily dance and sing around him....**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:40:45 PM
IP: 207-172-41-76.s76.tnt10.brd.erols.com

Well, I've sent off more pics through e-mail to those that wanted 'em! Let me know if you get them and your comments are always welcome. :)

Boy, this was a short post! ;)
Ravyn Maza
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 09:45:50 PM
IP: svm-ts3-7.c2i2.com

Lawrence Stone> I think they started naming themselves after having enough of their share of human contact. Humans probably named some of them, like in Goliath and Demona's case, and they eventually began to name eachother.

Bayta> Felicitations! That's french for congrats!!

Everyone> You know a really long time ago when we were all discussing what songs would be good for a Gargoyles soundtrack? I like the song "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan, which I'm listening to right now, actually! (And isn't her name great?) Comments on this subject?
AotN
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 09:44:21 PM
IP: dialup-103-95.sssnet.com

You know I was wondering when did gargoyles start nameing themselves? Because we know that when King Aruthur ruled England, the gargoyle clans had no names even in the year 994 A.d. when Goliath's past clan mates were massacured. They had no names either. Well, I think they were nameing themselves around 1100 A.D or 1200 A.D. what do the rest of you think? I would like to here your replies.
Lawrence Stone - [st1@bright.net]
Chillicothe, Ohio, Ross
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 09:33:37 PM
IP: cacheflow.bright.net

(Brian is seen running towards the scene of the shooting , his clothes are singed , half his trench coat has been burned off , his skinis covered with soot and he looks royally peeved .)

That is the last time I hide in a safe to protect myself from a bomb , the shockwave hurts like HELL .

Doug : Very good of you to make official the guidelines which should have been governing our RP'ing from the start . Should you need help with that interrogation you know how to contact me , though I might just swing by you after I help out with Shallow Mouth . I have a few more ideas that may be useful in the interrogation (evil grin) .

SJ : ugh , hope you can tolerate cockroaches better than I can , interesting that you should mention that since I just finished an "Aliens" novel where the homeless in Manhattan were so destitute that they had to eat large mutated roaches for sustenance . MMM-mm soft slippery innards covered by a crunchy shell . Hope you did'nt chafe too badly . But it could be worse , just look at your rescuers . Hope you remembered to get phone numbers .

Batya : Congrats on the engagement , hope it's a happy wedding , and even if it is'nt there's always the reception to liven things up . (evil laugh ) I've got a new list of Prac. Jokes just right for such an occasion .

Wilek : Dark mage hmm , nice touch , maybe we should have SJ make up a new virus . What do you say SJ ? Up to it ?

Kitainia : Do you have any Decals on your helmet ? That's one thing I would definitely accesorise on if I ever got a bike , course it'd be a scooter at best so not much of a chance of that .

(Brian Breaks off his coments as he he pushes a few BR's aside to reach the side of Shallow Mouth . He then pulls a powerful electromagnet the size of an ordinary flash light and starts to move it from point to point on Shallow Mouth's face removing the bucshots from the soft tissue and the shots not too deeply embedded in bone . He then uses his portals to remove the ones too deeply buried in his neck , skull and brain as the other healers immediately start to work on cleaning the wounds and powder burns off . Made a lot simpler by the removal of the lead balls . Brian then starts to apply his own still-weak healing spells to the gravely injured man . )



The Rolling Calf / Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 09:25:23 PM
IP: 208.11.41.219

** The screen lights up again, showing Doug ducking behind an overturned trash barrel and taking potshots at the enemy. Kitainia is zooming around on her cycle, picking the thugs off with her laser gun whenever she gets a chance to. So far, about half of them are down, including Graham but not Maxwell. Doug turns to make the following statements. **

Todd: I sure hope they do. <smile>

DumlaoX: I currently have four MP3s stored on my system. Yes, I know. Compared to you, I am pathetic. Maybe I'll get more. Someday.

Heather: They have Jim Henson in "Fleeting Encounters," too. Since he's dead I know he doesn't really count as a celebrity, just thought I'd go ahead and mention it. :)

That's all for now. Later!
** Maxwell shouts "Come out and fight, Elder-ly!!" He is answered by a thrown-by-Doug stick grenade that hits him right in the forehead before falling to the ground and exploding him out of existence. Scratch one bad guy. Doug and Kitainia quickly knock out the few remaining others and then begin to gather them up for later interrogation. The screen goes blank as this post has now ended. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 08:08:37 PM
IP: hd38-157.hil.compuserve.com

I *loved* that scene in "Fleeting Encounters" with Jeff Goldblum. I thought it was hilarious! I also liked it because Jeff is my favorite actor, and Jurassic Park is my favorite movie.
Brianna - [kelbribrook@earthlink.net]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:43:13 PM
IP: pool038-max7.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

DumaloX: I needed an opinion on a picture of Demona from Dark Ages, scanned and sent it to you, and it is now some screwed up Bitmap file and is so big I can't even print it. Sorry for the screw up, but I don't know how to send a scanned picture and correct this problem. I've never been good with the scanner, anyway, and if you or anyone could please tell me how to fix this, your advice would me much appreciated. I really need an opinion on this picture!!

Thanx...
AotN
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:39:22 PM
IP: dialup-103-95.sssnet.com

I forgot to put my pic up. :)
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:38:56 PM
IP: 174-248-192.ipt.aol.com

* eyes narrow * Yeah , right. You may think I'm stupid but you used Jeff Goldblum in TimeDancer. You just didn't say his name ! Bo Yea !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:37:44 PM
IP: 174-248-192.ipt.aol.com

*dons his lab coat*

Got Life Sciences lab in a few mins. Yes, studying in the sciences. Trying to be a med doctor, actually, but if I make a few mutations here or there in the lab... well, just remember it isn't my fault if they run amok here :P

DOUG-- Quick question before I go toy with Mother Nature. How many mp3's do you happen to have? Just curious since I happen to have 437 right now and I'm still trying to get more and more every day.

Till next time... hopefully I'll come out of this in one piece :P
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:16:59 PM
IP: dhcp75.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Back to my trademark pic and color....
Mrs. Wittenberg? *blinks and covers her face with both hands* Oh dear. No, please don't call me that yet, I don't think I could take it -- it's taking me some time to get used to being engaged. And we're not married yet.
"It feels weird. Cool...but weird."

On topic again: Glad most of you seem to be enjoying our season so far. Whoever it was that compared "Meet The Minions" to the "Anne" episode of BtVS, that's fairly apt: the plot was mostly incidental to the necessary character setup. The stage is now set for...well, for whatever may happen next.... *grin*
Batya "The Toon" Levin
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:15:26 PM
IP: s24h116.lab.qc.edu

HEATHER - Yes, Emrys really is Merlin. I'm not sure what gave you the idea that he wasn't.

DOUG - Good RP rules. Hopefully, they'll keep future sessions from getting out of hand.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:05:46 PM
IP: pn3-ppp-124.primary.net

** The screen lights up with Doug and Kitainia on their merry chase, dodging gunfire from the truck full of Mark Maxwell, Graham Johnson, and Doug's other old enemies ahead of them and the car full of Rodney Schuler, Ben Goodall, and Kitainia's other old enemies behind. Doug pauses between exchanging shots from his own shotgun and webshooters with the bad guys to make the following post. **

Alright, first off, I must deliver a possible warning. Before when we have done RP sagas as long as this one's going to be, it has always gotten out of hand and thus made people more annoyed than entertained. Out of courtesy to all the people in this CR who will be skipping over our saga for whatever reason, I suggest we adopt the following rules for participation:

1. No posts that are all RP. We must talk about something else besides the saga, like a debate, a reply, the current episode, a new topic, etc within our posting. If there's nothing else to talk about, we wait until there is before continuing postage. Thus we will keep this from becoming too encompassing.
2. RP can only be done at starting and exiting, we can make references to and talk about it within the posts but we can't actually take any actions pertaining to the events except at the beginnings and ends of our posts. This will help to keep the activity down in our RP, and not let it dominate everything.
3. No drawing people into this saga if they don't want to be involved. So Wilek, this means that next time you want to bring Sevarius Jr. into these events, please ask him if it's alright before you get him involved. I assume Green Baron's girls are about to effect a rescue, let's just say they did, and leave SJ out of this unless he decides he wants to join us, okay?
4. Let us never bring the battle directly into the CR or endanger any of the RP personalities who have not directly involved themselves in it already. (So far that's me, Kitainia, the rest of the Ravens, Wilek, Green Baron, and possibly Sevarius Jr.) If anyone else wants to join in by posting their involvement in an entrance or exit, feel free to do so, but remember it is at your own risk. <grin> Also, I ask that you please out of courtesy let us kill off the bad guys we bring in and don't execute them for us to sabotage this saga into ending before we fully exorcise our creativity demons. That means I get to say when Maxwell and Thailog are out of the picture, Wilek gets to say so for his clone, etc.
5. Never shall we insult anyone in this room in our saga, and if we bring in a real-life person who deserves to be insulted or cast as a bad guy (examples: Fieger, Pastor John, Clinton, Maxwell and Rodney, etc.), we shall just insult the person, not the things they represent. This will help us to avoid getting into volatile or religous debates because of this.
6. Never shall we act in a manner contrary to our RP personalities' capabilities or characters, and we shall always do everything in story-style continuity. That means no doing stuff like "I blow him up with a magical fireball" when your RP character has no spellcasting ability, and no going from talking to someone in one post and then killing the main bad guy in another without explanation. This will keep our saga running smoothly so we won't get confused. I don't think anyone involved in the saga was planning on doing this, I'm saying it just in case. :)
7. If anyone wants to disassociate themselves at any time from the saga, please go ahead. We shall miss you, but it's your own decision whether or not you want to be involved.

There, hopefully if we all adhere to these rules of courtesy we won't get out of hand in this and we'll still have fun doing it. If this saga is currently annoying anybody, please pardon our self-indulgence. Now, on to other things.

Wilek: A Dark Mage clone, huh? Good addition. Now we know where Thailog's getting all the undead and wizard-locked doors he had installed in the VCN base. Hope we soon get to take out this guy, it would deal a major blow to Thailog's plots, whatever they may be. I do wonder though how he got his hands on those sun amulets. Glad you're staying involved in the saga, happy to have your assistance.

Celebrities in Fanfic: I used to put celebrities in my work, just to insult them. The best example is Pol Pot's cameo as an Illuminati member and subsequent death in "Fall of Nightstone." I ended up getting flamed by a few people for it, mainly because I didn't portray him very realistically. :( Since then, I've cut back on my celebrity appearances. All the ones who appear in my fanfic now and will in the future are people who are dead a long time (such as Seth and Agony's various former historical identities) or legendary figures (such as King Arthur). I may make some tongue-in-cheek references to a current political situation (such as Judge Maddux's mention of the Clinton troubles and why Seth won't watch the news in my last posted story), but in general I don't do modern celebrity appearances. It's just safer that way. You never know when someone out there might percieve your portrayal of a celebrity in fiction as majorly insulting, and I don't want to end up like Salmon Rushdie. I write an alternate fictional universe, after all, not reality. Same deal for the TGS writers, therefore I applaud the lack of celebrities in their own saga and am glad it will continue.

Heather: Merlin Missy wrote an excellent Star Trek/Gargs crossover. Go to her website at http://www.umr.edu/~mrwilson/merlin.html and you might find it.

DumlaoX: Oh yeah, MP3s are wonderful. Keep teasing us all you like, this fan will at least stick around for all future bits of it. <smile>

Okay, that's all for now. Later!
** As Doug takes aim at Maxwell's truck with his shotgun, the jerk redneck fires a LAW 84 rocket launcher at him and Kitainia. Kitainia swerves out of the rocket's way just in time and it flashes past them to strike the car of thugs behind and destroy its front engine. Rodney, Goodall, and the rest of the thugs inside yell and shake their fists as the remaining chasers and chasees outdistance them. Doug meantime takes the opportunity to shoot out two of the pickup truck's tires. The vehicle pulls to the curb across the street from the Lakeline Apartment Complex and all the bad guys leap out to here engage their enemies. Doug and Kitainia split up, him on foot and her on the cycle, to take down their informant's would-be assassins. Tune in next time to see how they manage to win the upcoming battle. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 06:20:38 PM
IP: dallas-dnzol-046.tx.compuserve.net

*fires up WinAMP as he types this up*

Gotta love mp3's. Now all I need is more ZIP disks to back them up with and more HD space so I can keep my digital jukebox running :)

BATYA-- So do we call you Mrs. Wittenberg now or later? Glad to hear you 2 are getting together. May you have a happy marriage.

RAVYN-- Um, sure, I'll be part of the comp experiment you're conducting. My addy is below :)

LUCIUS CONTRACT-- Let's just say that we want to do what Greg did with the whole Titania whipsering into Fox's ear bit: we ain't talking. You can speculate all you want but only we know the truth and we ain't talking >:)

Heh, reminds me. The one thing different between the staff and Greg is that we can answer these things often and tease you more often :P

WULFFIGHTER-- MDY is correct. It was a piece from the Pendragon episode "Visions".

HEATHER-- We can't do that. The original series never had celebrities in there and neither can we.

*DumlaoX leaves WinAMP playing while he finishes this post and goes to curse out the C compilers for stopping him from finishing the comment room script*

DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 05:12:35 PM
IP: ts28-8.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Gargoyles/StarTrek Crossovers: Usually you can find that stuff at the Gargoyles Fan Website, but I think the Fanfic Archive is down right now.
AotN
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 04:53:20 PM
IP: dialup-103-12.sssnet.com

Hi,
I was wondering m where can I look to see if there's any Gargoyles/Star Trek crossover stories ? Because I love Star Trek !
I like DS9 the best. I like the new character , Erzia Dax. She kinda looks like me.
Anyway , watch DS9 on Sunday for the new episode "Take Me Out To The Holosuite". You actually see Worf in a basball uniform ! * laughs *
Anyway , I like the new story. But I was alittle confused. Is that kid Ermys really Merlin ? They kept looking at him strangely in the story.
Oh , is there going to be any celebrities in TGS ? Like......Aaliyah or Mya ? It would be so cool if you say that Elisa has a famous cousin that's in town.
See ya !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.cpm]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 04:51:55 PM
IP: 205-165-128.ipt.aol.com

**We see Sevarius Jr., chained up to the dungeon wall. He's not looking to happy.**

Geez, this comment room fills up pretty quick. I barely had time to realize I was captured. ;)

But seriously, a little help here? Wilek? Green Baron? Doug, Kitiana, Ravens, anyone? They got cockroaches in here! Big, big, BIG cockroaches! I HATE COCKROACHES!

**SJ hangs his head in despair....**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 04:43:23 PM
IP: 207-172-187-245.s245.tnt18.brd.erols.com

**Wilek the Drak Mage has revealed his evil plan with a captured Sevarius, Jr. His new minions appear. Wilek Gore, Gephardt, Gingrich, and in response to the British comedy, he has created Wilek Black Adder, Percy, and Baldrick. What hope is there for the TGS Comment Room?**

Traveler> I'v enever heard Buffalo Bill jokes on Leno. My favorite Buffalo Bill would be Jack Kemp, though. I need to watch Leno more. He's had some great joke material for the past six years.

ED> Accents. I've heard a few. Of course, everyone tells me I don't have a southern accent, though only crackers and poor WASPs in New Orleans would. We usually make fun of them in new Orleans, and in the Bayous, they all have French accents, though it is quite laid back, like Southern Louisiana.

Wilek> I guess this is a good argument against cloning, huh :)

**Behind Wilek Dark Mage, five girls in formal version of Ctaholic school girl uniforms appear. "You're reign of terror is at an end, Dark Mage. We're the Catholic schoolgirl Scouts, and we're going to battle kidnapping infidels and that means you!** To be Continued
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 04:17:08 PM
IP: 141.164.72.70

Bayta: Congrats! :D

Spike: Really? I can't really comment there, then, but perhaps it would be better then to say that the impression is "not English". And much of it sounds American. How do you get around the problem of spelling differences? Is it all adjusted to American spelling and grammar (which, on the one hand would make perfect sense, but would also annoy me for fairly obvious reasons).

Coyote: Well, you could wander about London for quite a while and I honestly doubt you'd hear many people saying 'blimey'. I suppose there's the fact that I'm looking on life with English eyes, and so I'm sort of used to everything, but I can't think of anyone that uses 'blimey' or ever has done.

Kathy: Heh. :) Well, yeah you might have to watch yourself, but certainly I think Gargoyles and TGS seem to like the idea of thugs running amok everywhere. British sitcoms eh? That would explain it to an extent, since the BBC is hardly a fair cross section of England. But I'm not condemning you all for having difficulties with the accents. It's just that it is one of those things that sort of gets on my nerves. Obviously, I notice any accent a lot less than you guys probably would. :)

Todd: Yeah, I wasn't being that serious. ;) It'd be slightly embarrassing if you couldn't even move from place to place. Almost more embarrassing than the guy who answers the French tourist, who's fluent in English, by saying "DO… YOU… SPEAK… ENG-LISH?" :)

Brianna: Actually, the last day does seem to have gone especially fast, I agree… I think it's because of the new ep. Over the week it'll probably calm down.

Wilek: Ick… I suppose if you get the accents from anything like that (or anything with Penelope Keith in it, even though she's a great comedian) you're bound to get some weird views.

Mike: I've been said to sound American actually! Anyway, pretty good job, especially working from MIA. :)

Kathy (Keeping up Appearances): *laughs* Nice one! I love KUA. The best one would be Fawlty Towers with Griff and Arthur in it… I won't even attempt to do that. :}
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 02:53:17 PM
IP: webcache5.planet.net.uk

[The screen shows that Wilek has set off to find his clone, Doug and Kitainia have set off to find Shallow Mouth's would-be killers, and Miriam and the Black Ravens are doing whatever it is they're doing just now.]

Green Baron> There are a Wilek Gore, Gingrich, and Gephardt? But there was only one missing vaccine dose...my other escaped clone must have made more clones and vaccine. SJ I thought I told you to lock down your lab. SJ? SJ? Where'd you go...?

Doug> OK, I'm on my way to kill my last clone. Miriam's staying with the Ravens, and I'll be rejoining you when I'm finished. (I know you can finish this without me, but I *hate* gangs and I want to help take this psycho down.)

Traveler> I thought Jake and Teri killed all the Smurfs last week. Oh well. I'll have to try some of your smurf roast when I get back. Shenzi the caterer might want to as well.

MDY> British shows? Well, the ones I'm familiar with are "Are You Being Served" and "Keeping Up Appearances", although we also get "Chef", "One Foot In The Grave" (much funnier than it sounds), and "Mr. Bean". At least we used to; it's been a while...

Hyacinth/TGS Creativity Demon> LOL! I've seen her dinners and parties. You've not known torment until you've heard Hyacinth sing. Ack.

Well, I have to--[Another signal overrides Wilek's comm signal on the screen. It's Thailog, wearing a sun pendant to keep him awake during the day. "Hello everyone. It was kind of our friend Doug to keep Sevarius Jr's little virus experiment away from me. We'll give him what's coming to him later. For now, meet my newest recruit." Thailog looks at someone offscreen, and the camera turns to reveal...the final clone of Wilek, also wearing a sun pendant, and sporting glowing red tatoos of upside-down pentagrams on his chest and shoulders. This clone, Wilek the Dark Mage, speaks. "Hello roomies. You especially Wilek. The other clones were weak, foolish, and generally worthless. I, on the other hand, am a match for anyone who would stand in my way. And don't count on the son of Sevarius to help out this time." Wilek the Dark Mage conjures an image of SJ chained to the wall of a dungeon. "He'll be gutted by our hunting falcons in precisely twenty-four hours. Come for him if you dare, Wilek." The two clones laugh maniacally and returns the screen to the real Wilek.] Oh, merciful Oberon, *no*...[To Be Continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 02:52:39 PM
IP: tnt-1-215-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

TRAVELER: Sorry I got your name mixed up with Taleweaver's. When I wrote that Doug had just woken me up a few minutes before and I hadn't even had my coffee yet. When I haven't had my daily coffee dosage I sometimes get confused about the littlest things. :P Except a name's not really little, is it? Well, I'm sorry, from now on I will proofread all my comments before I post them just to make sure there are no mistakes. Good luck to you in all your scholastic and other endeavours.
Kitainia
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 02:51:18 PM
IP: dallas-dnzop-017.tx.compuserve.net

**As the scene fades in we see that Traveler has not yet finished destroying all of the smurfs that were let loose in the CR. He stops running, and snatches one of the little blue rats off the ground as it tries to run past him. He then adjusts the flame-throwers nosle to "low" and causally starts to slow roast the smurf he caught over it while reading the new posts (and ignoring the high pitched shrieks>:).**

>Kitainia- Thank you for your response to my question about your motorcycle. However you have confused me (Traveler) with someone else that visits this CR (Taleweaver). Looking back at my name on the post I can see how the mistake could be made if someone was just scanning through because this place fills up so fast, or if you were just a little bleary-eyed form lack of sleep or something. Aannnyway to answer your question yes I am a somewhat of a motorcycle fanatic, although I unfortunatily do not own one at this time. I've been thinking about getting one to use as a commuter vehicle when I take some extra courses at the local community collage next summer. (Why I can't use it during the other 6-8 months out of the year will be explained shortly) I'll be 19 this comming devil's night 10/30/98 (How's THAT for a creepy birthday? Whenever I tell people they say it explains alot about me), and have one year of college behind me(97-98). However I found out the hard way what I was doing was not what I wanted to be doing for the rest of my life so I'm in an acedemic limbo right now. To keep busy I've been making up classes I failed at the community college, and next year I will be enrolled as one of UB's (That's right the University of Buffalo, I live in this country's so called great white north. No Jay Leno snow or Buffalo Bills jokes please. Or I'll have to e-mail bomb you>:) Computer Science Majors.

*looks up* Well that answers that question and gives away a tidbit about me IRL. *Looks at Todd's post*

>Todd Jensen- When choosing an internet handle proper spelling is not required but mine is spelled TRAVELER. And this IS the proper spelling according to a handheld spellchecker and Microsoft Works spellchecker. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but I have so many usernames and passwords (somewhere around 12-14 at last count) to keep track of something like a slight change in spelling can be disasterous for me. Now back to your post: Thank you for correcting me, as you can see from the time I made that last post (3:57:42AM) I was most likely not fully coherent. Oh, and you have not answered my question yet:
>TGS Staff- Any chance of you telling us what that "contract" Lucius had all his "Minions" sign in there own blood said? Or are we (the CR crazys) to assume that it was just a standard "sign your soul over to me...yadda...yadda...yadda...".

Well that's all for now, I have to get back to the extermination of this smurf infestation. They're tricky little buggers ya know.

**Pops the smurf he was slow roasting into an empty KFC container that suddentaly appears from nowhere, turns and says "For later.">:). He then cranks the flame setting back to high and picks up where he left off.**
TRAVELER - [traveler45@usa.net]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 02:15:32 PM
IP: 203-188-124.ipt.aol.com

Wulffighter
Evil Lex (?) led a raid on Avalon (not necessarily with Madoc if I remember) in 'Visions' a Pendragon episode. Which has lots of hints, possible futures (and red herrings no doubt) about the forthcoming TGS stories.
MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKTuesday, October 20, 1998 11:09:01 AM
IP: 195.195.164.145

Hey,
I was in here the other day and some one said somthing about
an eposide were lex turns evil and leads Madoc's army.

Now I have read all the currently posted TGS/Timedancer eposides and I have yet to see this one. If you know were it is please let me know!
Wulffighter - [wulfsbane99@yahoo.com]
minot, ND, USA
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:53:07 AM
IP: dyn048-209.misu.nodak.edu

I'll have a picture, Ravyn!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
CanadaTuesday, October 20, 1998 10:19:32 AM
IP: temple.ecs.edmonton.ab.ca

TRAVELLER - Um, the dragons were mentioned in "The Rising", not "Reprisals". You're getting the two episodes confused.

KATHY - Good creativity demon for Hyacinth Bucket. (You know, a lot of people are going to be quickly deciding that they'd rather face the entire Unseelie Court in battle than attend one of her candlelight suppers :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 08:32:04 AM
IP: pn2-ppp-77.primary.net

Oh, one last thing.

Taleweaver: Are you also a motorcycle rider/fanatic? If so, I must say glad I'm not the room's only one! :)
Kitainia
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 08:24:08 AM
IP: dd41-202.dub.compuserve.com

(The screen focuses on Kitainia, who winks at the CR behind her dark blue Unicorn-insignia helmet's tinted visor before starting to say her piece.)

Taleweaver: Yep, I ride a Kawasaki Ninja bike. It's my pride and joy, as well as my primary means of transportation. I bought it new two years ago, so it's a '96. The model is an EX-500 streetbike. It runs like a dream, thanks to my careful maintenance on it and only one accident so far (and it was very minor, I just took a corner too quickly and spilled. I have since corrected the mistake). It handles very well, and has so far proved reliable. But that's partly because I keep it in such good condition and never let a problem develop once I notice it. I break out the tools and fix it as soon as I can, if necessary calling in our group's expert mechanic Keith to help. I also treat this bike with safety, I never ride it dangerously outside of desperate situations, I obey all traffic laws and try to keep a safe distance away from other cars. And just in case, I always wear my helmet. (Kitainia reaches up and taps her headgear before putting her hand back on the bar.) Thanks for asking, I was happy to inform you.

Madoc's Voice: Tony Jay is perfect. Nobody can exude egotism and evil, both of which Madoc has plenty, like Tony Jay can, in my opinion.

** Episode Spoilers **
My comments on "Meet the Minions:" Good season opener, it sets the stage for a lot to happen in the episodes coming up. A bit short, with no real conflict between the good guys and bad guys, but I can excuse that because I know it will be coming soon. Keep up the good work, TGS Staff. I'm looking forward to seeing what next happens to everyone. Everything else I wanted to say has already been said. :)
** End Spoilers **

Kathy: <grin> And just imagine, if they were then thinking to invite Seth and Agony (I think Doug's told you all by now who they are).

Hyacinth: I don't think they're lying about their past lives. Both of them have to be noble. I mean sure they are also both rather corrupttible rogues, but I think that can be excused. We did it for Mr. Macbeth, after all.

Richard: Oh please, darling, don't even get me started about my opinion of those people!! I swear, next you'll want to invite that Miss Destine, and she'd...Uh!

Of course, both Seth and Agony would probably do their best to hide who they've been to people they can't trust or don't know, so this too will never happen.

Okay, that's all I had to say. See y'all next time.
(The screen image fades out as Kitainia leans back down over the bike handlebars and she and Doug continue their chase, unaware that another car full of thugs, these bad guys from Kitainia's past, have fallen into procession behind them.)
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 08:20:52 AM
IP: dd41-202.dub.compuserve.com

(The screen lights up with the image of Doug and Kitainia chasing the rednecks. Doug hanging on to the back of the motorcycle, turns to say something.)

Wilek: If you have a clone to destroy, I suggest you do it quickly, even if it means forgoing what's going on here. We (Kitainia, the Ravens, and I) have huge plans to continue this saga nearly ad infinitum. Hey, when you're running low on Blaise-ism ideas, what else can you do? Though we appreciate your help, we can manage without you. So if you have a psycho clone to take care of, please go get him. Thailog may be doing some more recruiting soon, and I'd hate for him to add Wilek Whoever to his army. :)

Green Baron: Good joke, man. <grin> Yeah, I have been playing a lot of that game. Well, I know it's just a game. In the same way that the Bible is just a book and Gargoyles is just a show. All three of them bring people together and can teach us many things, values and skills for life. Plus they can build relationships between people, help develop friendships and in some cases even romance. For me, they helped me get friends and stress release at a time in my life I surely needed it, and have continued to do so ever since while also developing my creativity and friendships. And let's not forget the fun. I'm sure for the many other games in here (like Void and Christine, to give examples) it's the same somehow. :)

Thanks for dropping the debate and not getting too mad about what I said last time. The last religous person I discussed my view of the afterlife with blew his stack at me. But that's unavoidable when you talk about such things with Pastor John. <grin> I guess the primary reason I hold this view is because to me life is not lived for the goal but for the journey. We encounter trials at every step we take and how we overcome them and thus fulfill our responsibility to live and go on, and ensure that the people we care about do likewise, determines our rewards in the next life. Many people earn good rewards later by letting a philosophy or religion of some sort determine their actions, I know that is a good thing, and I don't fault them for it. But they do have to watch out for corruption, and beware getting too attached to their philosophy and thus becoming people like Frollo or Pastor John. At the same time I believe that people can also earn good rewards if they make their own decisions, using philosophy and religion as influences but not as total reasons to make the decisions they do, and end up achieving their intended good results. Of course, if they intend evil and achieve it in living their lives this way, they'll get their pain later. The same corruption hazard also exists here, of course. But either way, or the middle ground that exists between them, of doing good can get you to a good place in the afterlife. This view works for me, thus I have it. For many Christians, there's just one way to reach heaven. For me, we each have to make our own straight and narrow path up there, paving it with good works. The path is different for every person and whether we succeed can be helped by God and all the people we meet in life, but in the end walking our path is a task that's up to us. The path is the thing that matters to me, not the goal. You do get what I'm saying, right? Oh well, you hold your view and I'll hold mine. No problems as long as we respect and don't try to convert each other. (And I think we've been doing that so far.) Okay, for me this debate is now really closed.

Madoc's Voice: Just because he's Oberon's twin doesn't mean they're going to sound alike. Lisa and Stephanie are twins, and they only vaguely sound like each other. Ditto for my identical twin uncles David and Ramsay. A person's personality has a great effect on how their voice sounds, because of the emotion they put into it. Thus, since Madoc and Oberon are characters with different emotions, it goes without saying they should have different voices. Unless of course an actor can be found that can pull off both (like Jeff Bennet, Keith David, and Jonathan Frakes have been able to do with their many Gargoyles roles). But I don't think we'll find that here. Terrence Mann does Oberon perfectly, and I've heard Frollo/Dragit's voice in my head every time I read Madoc's lines, even before I knew you guys picked Tony Jay to voice him also. I think Tony Jay would be perfect for the Lord of the Unseelie. That's my two cents on this.

And that's all I have to say. Let me turn the mike over to Kitainia.
(Doug leans down to take aim at the truck's tire with his weapon as the screen shifts to a close-up of the other person riding the motorbike.)
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:52:34 AM
IP: dd41-202.dub.compuserve.com

TGS - Britcom crossovers you'll never see:
Hyacinth Bucket and her husband, Richard discussing the guest list for Hyacinth's next candlelight supper.

Hyacinth: Of course he's royalty, Richard. I can tell about these things, you know.

Richard: *Rolling his eyes in that pained way he does* But Hyacinth, Arthur Pendragon? He's a nice enough fellow, but he can't be all there! The next thing you know is he'll be telling us that boy, Emrys is really Merlin.

I'm going now. *Flails away at the creativity demons evoked by the mere idea of Griff meeting Mr. Humphries in Soho*
kathy
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 07:43:39 AM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net

Okay, s'pose I'd better leave my two cents....

Spike> *bows* Thank you most kindly :) You're right- next person to call me a Yank gets a Kiwibomb sent to them...*l*

Accents> I sorta based the accents on the same thing I based my character names on- Iron Maiden concert videos *l* Oddly enough I've been accused of sounding english by a lot of my friends here... Still, I guess only the english could pull it off properly :)

Aragorn> *blushes* Caught!! Would you be at all interested to know that I was originally going to call Rodney Derek? >;D *l*

Anyway people, thanks for all the constructive criticism :)
Mike Norrish - [oberon@paradise.net.nz]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 05:50:24 AM
IP: 203.96.111.25

Wilek > ##Also, my only familiarity with British accents is from the British comedy "Are You Being Served". There's an interesting crossover possibility. ##

Umm, yeah. Amazing how you can base an entire series around a few dodgy double entendres.
Just as a matter of interest everybody, what British shows do you get to see over there?

MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKTuesday, October 20, 1998 03:58:05 AM
IP: 195.195.164.140

**A dark energy vortex opens in a shadowy corner of the CR, then Traveler steps out and it closes.**

I said I'd be back, didn't I?

>Kitainia- I believe you mentioned before that you currentaly use a Kawasaki Ninja as your means of transport? If you don't mind me asking: What model and year is it? Has it been reliable? And most important: How does it handle?

>Brianna- "Toon Disney" and "The Disney Channel" are two separate cable channels. Most "Basic" cable packages now carry "The Disney Channel" but not "Toon". That you have to order as an extra channel or pay an exorbant fee for an "All Access" package. *mutters the phrase 'Damn Adelphia' under his breath*

****(Hardly an)EPISODE SPOILER(S)****
Well I'll say this, it was short, but it was sweet.

>TGS Staff- Any chance of you telling us what that "contract" Lucius had all his "Minions" sign in there own blood said? Or are we (the CR crazys) to assume that it was just a standard "sign your soul over to me...yadda...yadda...yadda...".
****END OF (The hardly qualifing as an) EPISODE SPOLIER(S)****

CREATIVITY DEMION FOR TGS- Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, and more dragons, still more dragons, and the Dragon King! *Looks at creativity demion, now see what you've done TGS! You just had to go and mention that stuff (in "Reprisals Part 1) about the war the Fay were involved in before Oberon took the throne of Avalon (NOT the porcilian one *sniggers*>:). Now I can't get this line of thought out of my mind. AARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Well that's all I can think of for now so, good bye(That is, of course, not going to be a very long wait>:).

**Traveler turns and starts to walk back to the shadowy corner where the vortex was when suddentaly we hear a loud *SPLAT!*. He then stops and quickly looks down as he lifts up his right boot. He puts his foot back down and starts to scrape it along the stone floor of the CR. Then in an loud, annoyned voice asks "Alright who was the wise guy who let those damn little two legged rats (smurfs) loose in here?! *Then everyone does a double-take as they see his mask's face-plate twist into a manical grin* Never mind, it wont matter for much longer." *Traveler then reaches into his black duster and pulls out the business end of a flame thrower and lights the pilot at the front of it.* "Hehehe, it's time for a good olde fashoned bar-be-que!!! Let's light-em-up!!!" *He then procedes to chase shrieking smurfs around the CR trying (and somtimes succeding) to engulf them in flame and burn them to a blackend crisp.* The last thing we hear admist the screams before the scene fades out is: "I wonder?" *Crunch* "Mmm...Tastes like chicken!"**
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 03:57:42 AM
IP: 207-245-57.ipt.aol.com

**Green Baron appears**

Okay, Doug. I think this is time to bring closure to this and all other controversies.

**Green Baron grabs the soap box left by Aerie and fills it with explosives. He then mails it off to People for the American way HQ and grins**

Now, we can get back to Gargoyles TGS and wierd concepts pertaining to it.

Doug> You've been playing a lot of AD&D Planescape. I always thought evil people were sent to Cleevland when they died :) That was a joke and a very old one, not meant to kindle any debates. I can't beleive this traces back to my Catholic School Girl Scout idea. We do run off on tangents.

Wilek> I think I found the last of the clones. Wilek Gore, Wilek Gingrich, and Wilek Gephardt are all having a fight in the next room. In a few minutes, they should all kill each other.

**Green Baron dissapears after he and the Catholic School Girl Scouts do their impression of the Beans scene in Balzing Saddles**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 02:13:27 AM
IP: spider-tp044.proxy.aol.com

[The screen shows that Wilek, Miriam, and the Black Ravens are in the UT Student Union. The Dark Star stormtroopers have returned to their base, and Miriam, Lathrop, and Orion are in the midst of casting healing spells on Shallow Mouth while Jammer and Linnet give standard medical attention.]

Brian> I knew you would provide evac, I just did what I did to build suspense and so as not to interfere with what you or Doug might have wanted to do. Oh, and if you need a weapons arsenal, we have all kinds of experimental stuff at the Dark Star. Uh, what was that about my "previous record"? I'm not offended, I just don't know what you're talking about.

Seri> Want to know how the Clone War ended? Isn't it in last week's room? Recap: I melted Wilek Fieger The Third with the blessed Goliath figure that hangs from the rearview mirror of Christine's car. However, someone started making more clones, so I had SJ whip up a clone degenerative virus that killed all the clones on Earth except the approved ones (canon Gargs characters, fanfic characters, Coyote The Gearhead, etc.), which recieved a vaccine. Unfortunately, a dose of the vaccine was stolen, so there's one last psychotic clone (of me, I suspect) running around. We can't take care of him till we've finished off whatever Thailog is up to this time, though. I hope we wrap this up soon, even a single clone of me can do serious damage in a fairly short amount of time.

MEET THE MINIONS SPOILERS
It was short on action, but a grand setup story. Also, my only familiarity with British accents is from the British comedy "Are You Being Served". There's an interesting crossover possibility.
END SPOILERS

Madoc's voice> Since they're identical twins, his voice would probably be the same actor as Oberon's.

Have anyone here ever noticed how much Dexter from Dexter's Lab looks like a very young and cartoony version of SJ's dad? Hmmmmmmm...................

Ravyn> Thanks, but...I'm not fond of being experimented on. Ask SJ's dad.

Kyryn> Wow, kewl RP identity.

[The screen shuts down. Will Shallow Mouth survive?]
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 01:02:51 AM
IP: tnt-2-219-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

BTW, it was Green Baron's opinion about God's love and the afterlife I was acknowledging. Just saying this in case it wasn't clear to anyone. Dropping this issue now, hopefully!
Doug Elder
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 12:12:59 AM
IP: hd54-037.hil.compuserve.com

** The screen lights up with a picture of Doug, Kitainia, Linnet, and Jammer standing outside the UT Student Union, looking at their watches and waiting for something. Doug walks forward to make comments to the room. **

Well, we recieved another phone call from Shallow Mouth. He wanted to meet us here and give us more information. Hope he shows up soon. In other news, Gubio has broken two of the three encryption codes on the files we got from the VCN HQ computer systems. Unfortunately, in the process he accidentally released the "Legion" virus that was protecting them into his own computer! He has everything backed up, so no damage to his hard drive he can't fix, but it will be some time before he can find some way to defeat the virus. He has to do that before breaking the third encryption. Maybe Xanatos Enterprises can lend a hand to this enterprise. No other initiaves from Thailog and his gang underlings since this morning's murder, wonder when the next clue will be found as to what they're up to and where they are.

Congratulations to Batya and Alex Wittenberg on their engagement. Good luck to you both, and don't worry, we Ravens will ensure nobody trashes your wedding ceremony. :)

Ravyn: Please send me a picture of you. I'd like to know how you look IRL. (You've probably seen the Gathering pics of me, so you already know how I look.)

This Religion Debate: I totally agree with Mandi about repentance, Green Baron about seperating church and state, Dark Angel about condemnation, and Deuce about the values of Jesus. I also acknowledge Green Baron's opinion, even though I do not entirely share it. I believe that it is tough for some people to live a life of good works, and that is why we have forgiveness. My idea of the afterlife is not exactly like the orthodox Christian one, I instead believe when we die we wind up in exactly the kind of place we created for others in our lives. If a person contributed to society in a good way, i.e. tried to strive for a perfect society or a society that would at least benefit others as much as or more than themselves, they'll end up in one of the seven heavens. (Each heaven is a different sort of happy place based on the life philosophy of its members. One is a place of totally perfect good with everything in harmony, one is a place of pure untarnished nature, one is a landscape full of farms and industry all working towards the good of mankind, one is a big endless party, one is a place of eternal peace and rest, and the seventh is the home of God and the angels, the place where the ultimate perfection of goodness and all its associated values exist and are striven toward by all inhabitants.) Likewise, if a person makes a lot of people go through hell of some kind in some way, whether through persecution and oppression for whatever reason, war, greed, betrayal, the spread of chaos and evil, madness, or apathy, they end up in one of the seven hells. In each of these hells, they themselves are subject to the same things they put people through because they brought the above on them. (I.e. if a person persecutes, so will he be persecuted. If a person spreads chaos and evil and thus harms people, he will in the afterlife be subject to the ultimate chaos and evil. Etc.) Then there are the in-between afterlife places, for the kind of folk who aren't entirely good or evil. Those who live for and obey nothing but the laws of their society, hardly ever making their own decisions, end up in a nirvana of ultimate law and order. Those who live lives ever subject to changing whims and passions end up in a likewise paradise of constant chaos. Those who accept all things and endure all things in balance end up in a place where all things, good and evil, law and chaos, exist in balance and harmony. This view is rather like the view of the afterlife TSR sets forth in its Planescape setting. I know I'm probably going to be yelled at by a lot of people for holding this view, but I will continue to hold it because it's what works best for me and my egalitarian liberal mindset. I hold to Christian ideals in my life philosophy, but I'm also one of those people who believe that in the end we get the rewards we make for ourselves, whether they be pain or paradise. What kind of pain the bad guys among us get depends on what pain they caused, what kind or paradise we get depends on our definition of the term. Of course, there are always those who can rise above their pain and turn it into their paradise. <grimace> This is just my view, I know that probably nobody else here also holds it. Flame me if you like, just please remember how I've so far reacted to your views and opinions on this and most every other subject we've talked about. I may disagree with what people say, but never have I yelled at them for saying it or given my disrespect to anyone who does not deserve it unless I was misinformed and then I fast corrected myself once I knew the truth (in here, I have yet to find anyone who deserves my disrespect, btw. Thanks to everyone for not acting like the people who do deserve and get it. I think I've made clear by now who they are). One phrase I've really found to hold true for life is you better always treat other people the way you want to be treated. :)
(Note: all of the above paragraph is only my opinion, I ask no one to follow it but myself.)

Okay, on to less volatile and better topics! I also agree with Carolynn Marie this is not the place to talk about this, so I'm going to drop out of the debate now. If anyone must get a further response from me on this issue, please send me an e-mail. You can make comment on what I said above in here, just don't expect me to respond to it unless I think everyone needs to know. (And personally, I don't think everyone needed to hear this big debate in the first place, IMHO.)

Gang Members as Thugs and Cannon Fodder: I like using them that way myself, as anyone who's read my fanfic knows all too well. <grin> Speaking of fanfic, my latest is progressing well. Right now I have Terry being brought before the Senate of New Olympus, about to meet Jove, Talos, Boreas, and Echidna. Tomorrow I'll write the scene. (grin)

BTW, Coyote, I may soon be sending you two more WCC entries. Deadalus and Furie, leaders of the New Olympian Gargoyles in my universe. Hope I can get their characters fleshed out before your deadline. (Yes, I know it is fast approaching.)

Okay, that's all for now. Later!
** Shallow Mouth walks out of the Union building and heads toward Doug and the others. Suddenly a big dirty pine green pickup truck full of laughing tobacco-spitting Deliverance-style rednecks pulls to a stop nearby. One of them in the back of the pickup, who happens to be Doug's former high school arch-nemesis Mark Maxwell, draws a shotgun and blows Shallow Mouth away with it. The truck then speeds off, the laughter of Maxwell and his pals echoing behind it. Jammer and Linnet rush to give their informant medical attention while Doug and Kitainia hop on the latter's motorcycle and chase after the rednecks as the image on the screen fades away. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 12:11:29 AM
IP: hd54-037.hil.compuserve.com

*reading, reading, reading ...*

***Warning: Spoilers, but not like anyone's not read yet***

KYRYN< Actually, Cavall didn't receive his current name (didn't even recieve A name at all) until he met Arthur and Griff way back at the beginning of Season 1.

<<"Where shall I put this handsome brute?" Griff asked teasingly, patting
Cavall's crate. From somewhere deep within, the beast grunted. Griff
chuckled loudly at Una's expression on her face. "Una, I give you the
Highly Esteemed Cavall!" He bowed low, barking a laugh at the animal's
excited howling from inside the crate.

"Is that his name now? I remember this little rascal." Una looked
worried, "I do hope he doesn't eat anything," she commented as Griff
unlatched Cavall's carrier. "Those books on the front shelf are new.">>

Una remembers him, of course; Griff just had to let her know the pup's got a name all his own, now. :)

Una beast-sitting? When?

Accents< T'was a learning experiance in writing :P (Though I'll admit I don't want to learn lessons like this too often! *L*) I apologize if the tone annoyed anyone who's familiar with Brit-speak. Thanks for the opinions, even the harsher ones.

Aragorn O'Daly< Heehee, Iron Maiden? I don't personally listen to them. Mike Norrish may; he came up with the names ... wonder if Puck ever listens to the group ... food for thought *s*

Glad some of you liked Kevin and Char!! Personally, I find Riggs entertaining, though he really needs to not be such a whimp. But he's certainly fun to write about!! :D

All in all, interesting comments ... I'm glad, apart from the accent quibbles. One solution, England-ho!!! There's an exchange program this summer. Sounds pretty kewl, actually :D

***END SPOILERS***

Batya< I already sent you a congrats in the email, but congrats again, anyway!! :) *throws multi-colored rice for a little variety*

A major question: Since when did religion have to do with Gargoyles? I don't know how it came up in here, but it's bound to insult someone sooner or later, and it's totally off-track. The purpose of this room was in the dedication of our beloved show, not talking about how bad Christianity or other backgrounds there are. Frankly, I'm not religious myself, and I respect others for their beliefs no matter how different from mine, and I see no point in filling this room like this.

*steps off her soapbox and into bed*
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Tuesday, October 20, 1998 12:02:14 AM
IP: spider-tl061.proxy.aol.com

I'll be waiting for the Gargoyles movie on Saturday. Say, Theresa, when is Gargoyles (the series) on? I can't seem to find it. What exactly is Toon Disney? If you get the Disney Channel, does that mean you automatically get Toon Diz? Okay, enough questions. I'm through.
:::Brianna sits back and waits patiently for the answers:::
Brianna - [kelbribrook@earthlink.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:33:03 PM
IP: pool009-max8.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

HEATHER< Hrm. Check in reference books for what Africans call animals. "Simba" means "Lion" in some language out there; probably Afrikkaner. I suggest looking under Keyword: Africa, on the 'net. Maybe you could name the gargoyles by whatever animal they resemble, like Simba for a Leo-look-alike, though I dunno if you'd want to do that since most ppl would associate that with a furry little Disney-syndicated lion :)

Spike and AotN< I gotta check this place more often. Happy belated birthdays to the both of you, and I hope they were fun! Fun parties? Cops come by? *wink*

Betroth, I am off!!! *runs out again*

Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:24:11 PM
IP: spider-tl061.proxy.aol.com

Coyote the Bando< Hey, interesting twist to that movie. *yanks Puck into the room, wearing green spandex* Introducing, ladies and gents, "Robin Goodfellow: Elves in Tights! *bolts out of the room before she gets stoned*
Carolynn "Aerie" Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:16:18 PM
IP: spider-tl061.proxy.aol.com

<Kyryn sticks her head back in the door>

Oh, BTW, Kyryn can stay awake sometimes during the day through use of a spell. It allows her to remain awake as long as direct sunlight doesn't touch her eyes. Nowadays, she uses wraparound sunglasses to help, but she still can't look at the sun or she's stone for the rest of the day. This spell also exacts a price. Since the user is effectively denying him/herself 'sleep', she must either sleep for real sometime or spend a couple of days and nights in stone sleep to make up for it.

That's all

<Kyryn leaves, muttering about storm gremlins>
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:16:49 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

<Kyryn walks in soaking wet and wringing out her hair>

I'm back and it's STILL raining in San Antonio. Bleah!

Hello to all the new people.

On thugs: I think that most big cities have a reputation with someone for having thugs, muggers, gangs, etc. Besides, they make great villians( or cannon fodder, as the case may be!)

Religion: I have my views and they've told me to stay out of it, thank you - so I will.

Rayvn: Your welcome to send me pics too.

The latest poll: IRL I am a 30 yr old systems librarian at a junior college( that sorta counts as still being 'in' college). <g> Kyryn is a late 16th/early 17th century Japanese gargoyle sorceress. She has a long, narrow, beaked face,two straight but swept back brow horns, two-fingered wings, and cloven hooves instead of gargoyle feet.(I'm not quite sure on this last because I did one drawing of her with normal garg feet, and I haven't tried it the other way yet. I want to see which I like better). She has a long 'mane' on her tail. It starts at the base of her tail and runs to a long tuft at the end. She is a deep gold color, with reddish-gold underwings, and white hair. How she got from old Japan to the 20th century is a long story and the subject of the fic I'm working on. But, since she got here, she's become quite a techie.(Mixing magic and computers - fun!)

SPOILERS*****

I enjoyed 'Meeting the Minions', but I also felt that it was a bit short. I have one major problem with the story though. The scene where Una and Cavall 'meet' seems to read like a first meeting since Cavall was much younger, yet Cavall must have been with Arthur during the times that he came and went from the shop during season 1. And, even if Cavall had stayed with the clan while Arthur was visiting the shop, Una would have run into him on her visits to the estate.

The comment that Arthur made about Kevin's behavioral resemblance to a knight seems to be a bit of foreshadowing <hope, hope!>

END SPOILERS******

<Kyryn grabs a giant hair dryer and starts to dry herself off. The hair dryer kicks into high gear and blows her out the door, which slams behing her>
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:09:24 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

**Ravyn comes in, grinning widely**

Wow! Looks like I succeeding in figuring out how to send pictures through e-mail! It really wasn't as hard as I thought. Thanks to all those that helped in my experiment! And if anybody else wants a picture, let me know!

Theresa> PURPLE DOES ROCK!!!!! I agree. Thanks again! :)

Coyote> Why, thank you! ;) And it really is intriguing how close you were to the real me when you drew Ravyn! Thanks again...and actually, I'm 5'3". I'm kinda short. Okay, I'm really short. Kyle's about 6'1" or 6'2". He is kinda tall, isn't he? And I don't know, but in the picture, he looks much older than me, but actually I'm the older one by a couple months. Oh, well...:)

Thanks to all who helped me out!
Ravyn Maza
Monday, October 19, 1998 09:58:39 PM
IP: svm-ts10-22.c2i2.com

Just a couple things to say. First off, on the accent issue, I don't try to put accent's in my FanFic because I don't really like doing so. IMHO, nobody from a certain area will like what you do with that area's particular accent. I know it drives me crazy when I see people writing midwestern accents, or even when they are spoken on TV, because they are often wrong and/or overexagerated.

Batya: Congratulations! I hope you two are very happy together.
T. J. Veil - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 09:44:15 PM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

**The skylight opens, and a rope ladder drops down from the helicopter above the CR. Mandi climbs down into the room and waves at the copter pilot. The rope ladder is pulled up, the skylight closes, and Mandi speaks.**

Batya: CONGRATULATIONS!!! That's wonderful! Best wishes to you both!!

Oh, no, we're getting into a religious debate. Okay, my moderate $ .02 here:

Green Baron: I think the problem some people have with the Religious Right (and I'm talking the far right here!) is that sometimes their attempts to get people to repent borders on condemnation, which only does the opposite. People in general are so protective of their beliefs that if you tell them that they're wrong, they'll immediately jump to the defense.

I suppose before anyone can repent for anything they do, they have to come to terms with why they behave in this way. (I'm talking behavior, not belief.) Simply telling someone that they have to repent tends to have the opposite effect, especially if you have no idea why they act like they do.

That's my $ .02 on the subject, and that's all I'm going to say about it.

**EP SPOILERS, of course**

"Meet the Minions" was all right, although it was short and relatively low on action. Although it needed to open Pendragon to tie up some ends--Una and Leo meeting Emrys, what exactly Madoc's plans in London are, yada yada yada. After "Quest's End," I suppose the characters couldn't just jump into action: they had to regroup somehow and figure out "what now?" For Buffy fans, I could compare it to the season opener of BtVS, "Anne," which was relatively slow (for Buffy) but necessary character-wise.

**EP SPOILERS END since everyone else covered all the bases.**

Christine: Could you put me on your book order list now? Borders screwed up that special order Mom put in for the book.

Ravyn: Need experimental subjects? **jumps up and down and waves her hand in the air** Ooh! Me! Pick me!

All right, I have to study for physics. Where's that copter now?

**At that, a hole opens up beneath Mandi's feet. She falls through screaming, "I'm never using this airline agaaaiinnn!!!!"**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 09:12:45 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Albuquerque, New Mexico. I'm half way between Rayvn and Spike. (More or less). I was cruising with one of the new webtv updates, key in the name of the show and it makes any matches. It's also great if you keep missing a show and want to find out what channel and when the repeat is on the alternate channel. Can we say Deep Space Nine, or,
Xena/Hercules. Fox here can be such an idiot about keeping shows on where you can find them.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:55:34 PM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net

Gargoyles Movie. This is the five part Awakening for tv episode everyone's been getting the last few weeks except Albuquerque. :( It will be on Saturday 12 noon mountain daylight on Fox Tv.

What a lot of people tend to forget is almost every religion has some form of "Take care of those less fortunate than you." It's not just a Christian ethic.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:51:16 PM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net

Starsinger: Where exactly are you? It's been shown on different stations at different times on different days for the past month (Detroit just got it this past Saturday at noon on our UPN station (50)). Just out of curiosity ... but I'm sure that others in your area would want to know. I would have mentioned it was on Saturday before it was broadcast, but I didn't find out about it until late Friday night.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:46:35 PM
IP: 207.91.254.38

***After reading a new message***

Gargoyles movie? At what time (Eastern)?
DarkAngel - [DarkAngel@BAAWA.org]
Quebec, Canada
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:37:00 PM
IP: xp11-1-5-01.interlinx.qc.ca

***DarkAngel decloaks***

I read this week's episode and it's not exactly the best in the Pendragon serie, though I understand the need to set up the mood for the next few episodes. I also lost some enjoyment because I had to read it in less than 30 mins because I had a midterm exam at 1h30 PM, so I really skipped over it.

Green Baron> As much as I respect your religious beliefs, I find it mildly rude to tell that people who don't believe as you do will be in for a "rude awakening"... Also I take exception to the statement that "aid to the poor" is "a Church's duties", as it implies the stereotype that unbelievers (such as, well, me) do not care about aiding the less fortunate. And please, if anyone wants to answer to my statements, do so via email so as not to clutter this board with off-topic messages (especially since this is a potentially explosive subject).
DarkAngel - [DarkAngel@BAAWA.org]
Quebec, Canada
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:35:19 PM
IP: xp11-1-5-01.interlinx.qc.ca

Rayvn, it came through beautifully. I'd have known anywhere. PURPLE RULES!!! Sorry.

Finally!!!!! The Gargoyles movie will be shown on Fox this weekend. Yeah!!! About time. Oh, do I have any blank tapes??? Oh, I'd better find one.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:26:41 PM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net

**Coyote enters the room. Nothing special this time.**

Ravyn: Congratulations, I successfully received the picture. Three comments:

1) Thank you for making the file size somewhat reasonable. (believe me, if it were too large I wouldn't even have been able to receive it or any other mail probably for another three days.)

2) Sometimes, I even scare myself. Comparing my blind pic to the photo ... yikes!

3) I like the dress. That's a good color on you. Just an aesthetic comment, really. ;)

Thanks again for sending it. (BTW, just as a reference for my own satisfaction, how tall are you? Kyle looks *extremely* tall to be a kicker.)

**Coyote leaves. Again, nothing special this time.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:09:27 PM
IP: 207.91.254.53

Wow! Congratulations, Bayta! I hope that you and Alex are happy together.

*sniff* I always cry at weddings. *sniff*
Brianna - [kelbribrook@earthlink.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:09:09 PM
IP: pool009-max8.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Seri > it won't be in stores until after the first of the year (change in distributors), but copies are available NOW from me -- click on my name to visit the newly-updated website.

Sevarius Jr. > why, I had no idea! ; ) Another broken-hearted man in my wake, ah, the price of being a love-goddess ...

Batya > congrats again, in this comment room too!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:01:48 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Starsinger> Okay, I've just experimented with my e-mail on you, too! Thanks! Let me know if you get it. Enjoy! :)

Anybody else want a picture? *grins*
Ravyn
Monday, October 19, 1998 08:01:03 PM
IP: svm-ts5-15.c2i2.com

Batya and Alexander congratulations. When is the big event happening and where can we send the letter bomb?? <G>

Rayvn please feel free to use me for experimental purposes.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:51:05 PM
IP: proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net

Just wanted to clear something up here. I like all of you crazy cats, so if any of my comments on religion or whatever offend you, I'm honestly sorry. They're just my opinions, and as Larry Flynt once said, "Opinions are like @$$holes, everyone's got one."

Bad British accents: Bad accents I can take. What I can't take are the bad british smiles. Anyone remember that Simpson's episode where Lisa goes to the dentist?
Dentist to Lisa: "Lisa, do you know what happens when you don't take care of your teeth properly?"
Lisa: "N--no..."
Dentist: "Then perhaps you'd like to take a look at the BIG BOOK OF BRITISH SMILES!"
Lisa: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
That was a good episode.

Batya: You're gettin married? *Sniff, sniff* Do you hear that? It's the sound of my heart breaking :( First I find out Christine's married, now this....ah, the pain of unrequited love.

Seriously, That's great news! Just let me know if you ever starts bothering you. I'll mutate him good! ;)
Sevarius Jr.
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:46:51 PM
IP: 207-172-52-131.s131.tnt1.brd.erols.com

Coyote> Okay, I tried to send you the picture. Let me know if you get it! :)
Ravyn
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:35:25 PM
IP: svm-ts5-15.c2i2.com

Batya> CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Best wishes and good luck in your future! And, most important of all, have fun! :)

Coyote> Okay, I'm gonna try to experiment on sending the picture to you. You'll be my lucky little guinea pig...;)

And while I'm at it, anybody else want a picture sent to 'em through e-mail? I'm dying to experiment with the computer...*evil grin* :)
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:14:54 PM
IP: svm-ts5-15.c2i2.com

Sheesh! This place floods faster than the Titanic! I was just here yesterday, and already there are tons of new posts! Slow down, people! I'm new here and I can't keep up if you go *this* fast!
Brianna - [kelbribrook@earthlink.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:00:06 PM
IP: pool009-max8.ds20-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

ED - I don't think that British Rail's all that bad. When I visited England and Wales five years ago, I went all over the countryside via it, to such places as Winchester, Exeter, Swansea, Birmingham, Stratford, and London, without any serious hitches.

Emrys talks in an American fashion in "Quest's End"? I hadn't realized that. (Actually, I don't think that he's ever been to the U.S. In fact, I don't think that he's really been out of the British Isles that often since Arthur's reign. One or two visits to Brittany or Avalon, perhaps, but he likes it in Britain).

Henry and Minnie were indeed meant as the "Pendragon" equivalent to the yuppie couple, but a more likable lot. Incidentally, 20 points to anybody who can guess correctly the original source for the names. (Hint: Fans of British radio comedy ought to have an advantage here).

Oh, and congratulations, Batya!
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 19, 1998 06:33:22 PM
IP: pn10-ppp-150.primary.net

Ed said " Honestly, is it Yank myth that London is brimming with thugs? :)"
Actually, I think it's all the pickpocket warnings in the tube stations that give the impression. :)

Seriously, I was in London for a week last February, I liked it. It's a city and like any city you have to watch yourself.
The accent quibble. You hear so many different ones depending on where you're at, who they're talking to and so forth and so forth. So have pity on the non-natives who depend on British sitcoms for guidance.
Cheers,
kathy
Monday, October 19, 1998 06:00:22 PM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net

**The loud crackle of a two-barrel carburetor heralds Coyote's entrance to the room, in his infamous olive-brown '85 Charger, Lexington.**

Hey gang. Driving through this time.

Writing accents: Personally, I don't even try in my own writings, save for possbily learned local slang or such. (I use Griff in my fics, and the most he's ever said to even *hint* at an accent was one time when he asks Goliath "Blimey, what happened to you?" And I'm not entirely sure about that live, even still ... and that was in the first volume!!)

Batya: On the occasion of your engagement to Mr. Wittenberg ... A FOUR CYLINDER SALUTE FOR BATYA THE TOON!! **Coyote guns the engine of the car, the sound reverberating loudly off of the walls.** That's my piece. Congratulations, and may your happiness last for a thousand years ... or more!

Gotta go. Must refuel.

**Coyote guns the engine of Lexington, kicks it into gear and lays rubber out of the room.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 04:44:22 PM
IP: 207.91.254.64

ED>> Actually, one of the co-writers of "Meet The Minions", Mike Norrish hails from New Zealand. Them Kiwis gets a mite uppity to be called Yanks!
Spike
Monday, October 19, 1998 04:24:57 PM
IP: dal-mm2-1171.cmpu.net

**In a burst of light, the Green Baron appears**

Batya> My conratulations to ye. Engagements are a wonderful thing. I just hope you two take your time in deciding on a date. In the Catholic Church, a six-month engagement is required, as well as a compatibility test. If the couple proves too incompatible, the couple will not be granted a marriage in that Parish. The six months are a great time for preparation and saving up for the costs :) Personally, I would use a two year engagement period. I don't know what your faith requires in that aspect, but I hope you are absolutely certain about marrying Alex. And with that, I wish you the best of luck and a long love-filled marriage that shall last for as long as the two of you are alive, like the way marriages used to be.

Sevarius Jr.> I guess you should be happy to know that the Vatican forbids priests from running for political office. This causes a conflict of interest, since one cannot serve both God and man. I also agree with seperation of Church and State. I dislike secular elemnets like voting on ministers in many Churches, and I am bothered by any Church whose principles are determined by a majority vote. I also believe the State needs to butt out of a Church's running, or taking over a Church's duties, like aid to the poor, because the Government can't do compassion right. Just look at our failure of a Welfare System and the poverty pimps are the only folks who gain from it. I believ in the Seperation theories of St. Thomas Moore and Thomas Jefferson.

Todd> Actually, I was joking about Unseelie involvement during the Reformation. BTW, I doubt any real witches were ever killed during any witch hunts, just ordinary people, though I don't really mourn the death of Puritans. They are the most intolerant group to ever infest America's shores, and they are now Congregationalists, one of the nastiest members of teh Religious Left. One of their Ministers at my old University used scripture to condemn the Pope, and she condemned the Catholic Church for being sexist. Absolute post-modernist drivel.

Doug and Deuce> I hope you don't forget that God's love is tough love, like the Old Testament, and there are people who reject it. Of course, these poeple can be forgiven, but only if they repent their sins. Some people believe in automatic Salvation and many don't believe in Purguatory. They're in for a rude awakening :)

**Green Baron dissapears**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Monday, October 19, 1998 04:20:44 PM
IP: 141.164.72.55

*A tiny creativity demon runs into the room with a trumpet, blows an elaborate fanfare, unrolls a tiny scroll, clears its throat, and begins to bellow* Hear ye! Hear ye!
*Batya the Toon comes into the room and kicks the little demon out of the way* Hey! This is _my_ announcement!

Okay. *ahem* Well, um....
I'm engaged. To one Alexander Wittenberg, occasionally known as Simon DelMonte, one of the most marvelous people in the universe. (And I'm not biased, nope, not at all. *grin*)

Okay. Just wanted to tell you all that. You can go back to what you were doing now.
Batya "The Toon" Levin
*dazed, giddy, grinning like a fool*
Monday, October 19, 1998 02:33:47 PM
IP: usr29-dialup38.mix2.boston.cw.net

Todd: Yeah, but if the gang went by British Rail, they wouldn't get there anyway ;) But I guess that in losing Sylvester, Merlin also lost car access (assuming that Sylvester learnt to drive- actually for that matter I wonder if Merlin ever did…)

***CREATIVITY DEMON***

Emrys is driving merrily along with Griff, Cavall and Arthur in the back, when he's stopped by the police, who are shocked to see his age. But he goes onto give the police an earful about dangerous driving himself, points out several things that he isn't doing properly, and then driving off, very capably to leave behind him a miffed policeman.

***END CREATIVITY DEMON***

Fleur: See Flynt, who illustrated THE RISING PART ONE- he's Australian :)

MDY: Yeah, just what I thought about the accents. Umm… to move onto spoiler territory…

***SPOILERS FOR MEET THE MINIONS***

I liked this title, actually. I found it quite amusing, and that's not overly easy to pull off when you're talking about all this end of the world stuff.

As MDY said though… the accents are… ahem… interesting.

To be fair, I don't really expect differently, given the difficulties of capturing the feel of a country on the other side of the Atlantic. I winced at some of the portrayals, but I guess that's what you get for having London portrayed by Americans. Merlin himself is very American (I noticed this in QUEST'S END too), but I suppose it he's been around the world for several years it's only logical that he'd have picked up several (more) eccentricities, and if he stayed long enough in America then an American accent as well.

I think if it's difficult to write cockney (and it is 'cause it's always changing- I couldn't write in any foreign accent at all- it'd drive me insane!), it might be best not to bother, and signal in the text that it's there. Some of the words also seem a little outdated. I forgave Una, Leo and Griff sounding like they were straight out of a 1940s movie in MIA because they were from the 1940s. But the modern day characters really sound wrong.

I did like Una's 'in my day' sort of comments. They were fun. Overall, the story did lack something…

One last thing… that paper Una's reading sounds like The Sun, The Star or The Mirror, not The Times or The Telegraph, which is what I'd expect her to be reading ;) Mind you, it sounds like she was reading it more for the laugh anyway.

Not bad, but flawed. I thought the same about MIA, so I suppose that's OK. Honestly, is it Yank myth that London is brimming with thugs? :) That said, I liked the 'Henry and Minnie' double of 'Brendan and Margot'. Although H&M are nicer. ^_^

***END OF MEET THE MINIONS SPOILERS***
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London! :) , England of course.
Monday, October 19, 1998 02:11:42 PM
IP: webcache5.planet.net.uk

*** HERE WE GO AGAIN. MOST OF THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS. THE ELEVEN OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T READ "MINIONS" YET HAVE SERIOUS PRIORITY PROBLEMS. GO THERE. READ. NOW. ***

Meet The Minions: Short on action, long on bad British accents. Overall, not too bad. Kevin the cabbie was a great character. Is it possible that's he's a little more than a cabbie? *hoping*

Latest controversy: All I'm saying on this (to avoid making enemies) is that I agree with SJ entirely. Jesus WAS love (see I John 4:8), forgiveness, etc. He WASN'T about condemnation. That's all I have to say about that. I don't have the time.

*** END SPOILERS. BUT JEEZE! IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING READING THE COMMENT ROOM BEFORE READING TGS, YOU'VE GOT PROBLEMS. ***

*** THAT IS ONLY MY OPINION ***
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 01:37:22 PM
IP: temple.ecs.edmonton.ab.ca

**Coyote enters the room, brightly dressed in some clothes he hasn't been able to wear for a while because he's been working nearly non-stop.**

Hi all. Just sprinting through.

==SPOILING FRUIT WARNING==
If you unplug your refrigerator your oranges will mold.
==SPOILER WITHIN THE SPOILED FRUIT WARNING==
I liked "Meet the Minions." It should be interesting how the Unseelie war unfolds in London, especially seeing as how Lucius is seemingly recruiting local help to wage the war. Cannon fodder, anyone?

I mean after all, if they're planning to split the fronts of the war on Avalon using a bunch of British hooligans, I can predict pretty accurately that his army will last exactly three seconds. I mean look at what happened during WWII when Germany tried to split its fronts on all sides. Their forces wound up collapsing under themselves. This is not sound strategy.
==END SPOILER WITHIN THE SPOILED FRUIT WARNING==
And your apples will turn brown, too.
==END SPOILED FRUIT WARNING==

That's all. Gotta run.

**Coyote leaves, eating a banana left on the table, but spitting out the bite when he discovers it's been out so long it's yellowish-brown mush.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:38:47 PM
IP: 207.91.254.45

GREEN BARON - I don't think that the Unseelie Court had any real role in the Protestant Reformation (and we probably couldn't interpret it that way in TGS anyway, because that would be guaranteed to offend nearly all of our Protestant readers), but I imagine that Madoc's participated in religious persecutions from time to time, and may have even encouraged such things, particularly where gargoyles were the target. I certainly can believe that he was a secret driving force behind a lot of the witch-hunts in early modern Europe, and even if they didn't bring in any actual gargoyles or "good guy wizards" of the Merlin variety to ensure clearing away potential opposition, he might even have relished the distortion of a religion originally based on love and the idea that we are all the children of God into one of bigotry and persecution.

Interestingly enough, I happened to be watching the Disney animated "Hunchback of Notre Dame" last night, and noticed something. I had often thought that if TGS was on television, Madoc would be voiced by Tony Jay (that's whom I visualized for the role), and seeing Tony Jay voice Judge Frollo in the movie increased that suspicion. Jay's delivery of a lot of Frollo's lines struck me as just perfect for the Unseelie Lord. (And add onto that the "parallel figure" element: they both persecute unpopular minority groups - gypsies for Frollo, gargoyles for Madoc - and Frollo was even beheading architectural gargoyles on Notre Dame near the end).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:30:33 PM
IP: pn11-ppp-182.primary.net

** The screen lights up with a picture of several police officers combing Thailog's apartment for clues as to where he might have gone after tying up this loose end. Doug turns from the officer questioning him to make a quick remark.**

SJ: That's my main beef with the Religous Right, too! :) What really stinks is that no matter how many times you tell them what you said, they never change their minds. They just yell and scream at you, they don't even give your argument a chance to sink in, it's terrible. Oh well, someday I'm sure they will learn the hard way what Christianity is really about, and then they'll be in trouble. :) Until then, we'll just have to suffer through all their hoopla and close-minded vile hate-filled rhetoric and propoganda. Sigh...

That's all I came to say, I won't say more for fear of starting a debate. This is only my opinion, it will probably remain so no matter what. See y'all tonight, hopefully.

** The screen goes blank as Doug goes back to answering the officer's questions about Thailog. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:20:23 PM
IP: hd47-230.hil.compuserve.com

*gratefuly glides in from the horrible world of midterms*
Wilek> I'm so sorry we missed the end of the Clone War, but I'm sure you and all those other ppl we didn't know slaughtered them mightily! *so sorry, I watched Xena and Hercules yesterday, and I get a little whacky afterwards*
BTW, I have a beak, but it's small, so it's no fun. :)
Since I'm probably the only person in the CR who hasn't read Meet the Minions yet, there will be no spoiled space in this message.
Christine> Is Shadowbeasts in bookstores yet? I hope you've gotten your kitchen back. :)
*glides back out, with her hardcopy of 'Minions' in claw*
Seri
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:19:24 PM
IP: unit2b.miseri.edu

Greetings

***Spoilers***

I loved "Minions" it was a great well writen ep. I like the cult, and I'm intrested to see more of them in the future. Lucus, at first I thought he was a fay. But I dout Garlon would be there to babysit him if he was one.

It's interesting how New York is getting the personal atention of Maddox and the Court while Londen, for the time beng, is only being seen to by the Minions. I wonder if there's a reason for this. Also for obvious plot reasons we're only seeing their movements in New York and Londen, do the Unselee have opperations in other parts of the world.

***End Spoilers***

Thats all for Now-The One Eyed Squid
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:07:52 PM
IP: 166.109.180.23

Greetings

***Spoilers***

I loved "Minions" it was a great ep. I like the cult, and I'm intrested to see more of them in the future. Lucus, at first I thought he was a fay. But I dout Garlon would be there to babysit him if he was one.
It's interesting how New York is getting the personal atention of Maddox and the Court while Londen, for the time beng, is only being seen to by the Minions.
The One Eyed Squid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:03:31 PM
IP: 166.109.180.23

Now to do my Jerry Springer impression, with my "Final Thought" on the whole Religious Right thing:

Personally, I think things really start to go wrong when religion--any religion--starts to get too involved in politics. I'm talking pretty much about Christians here, because they seem to be the majority religion interested in politics. Now I'm a Christian myself, and proud of it. But look at history. As soon as religion and the church started to become a political power, things went, for lack of better terminology, straight to hell. Most of the persecution that has happened over the years hasn't been so much about religion as it has been about who's got the authority. Jews don't want to bow down to the Catholic church? Let's have the Inquistion. We'll matyr a few thousand of them, see if that teaches them. It's a joke.

Nowadays, everyone's about judgement. Just read the Bible. Especially the New Testament. Jesus and his followers weren't so much about judgement, punishment, all that stuff. They were more about love, understanding, acceptance, peace, and overall, forgiveness. If Jesus was born today, and started preaching this same message, he'd probably be branded a hippie (well, without the sex and drugs ). He had the right message: if someone does something evil, don't be so quick to judge them or persecute them, be quick to forgive them. By Christian beliefs, _everyone_ is capable of evil. We shouldn't be so quick to point out other's wrongdoings without out first looking at our own faults.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we shouldn't punish someone if they do wrong. I'm just saying that we shouldn't be so quick to damn them to hellfire and brimstone. On the cross, Jesus asked God for forgive those who were crucifying him. He didn't ask God to send them straight to hell. He was all about love and forgiveness. And a lot of these Christian groups have seemed to forgotten this. So I get real worried when a lot of these Christian organizations get up to the podium and talk about all the great things they're gonna do for the country, and then say something bad about gays or someone else. Scares me, cause they come close to having the right message, then they go a complete 180 in the other direction.

Ah hell, I'm gonna start another controversy. Better to keep me big mouth shut.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:52:47 AM
IP: 129.174.56.92

** The screen lights up with a picture of Doug walking through his apartment complex. **

Thanks for that timely portal, Brian. Because of it we managed to get out just in time. Unfortunately the headquarters was completely destroyed in the blast, and since the only info Shallow Mouth gave us was its location, right now we're back to square one. However, we did bring out a lot of encrypted computer files on zip disks that Gubio is in the process of translating into English. It could take him a while, but there could be stuff in there we don't know about yet. Right now, I'm headed for Thailog's apartment, I'm gonna confront the guy and tell that woman he's been living with what's up. Hopefully this will get us somewhere.

Green Baron: So those guys are the real life versions of Helen Lovejoy, eh? (I'm talking about a character on the Simpsons who whines the same stuff they do.) Glad to have them on the list. From what I've heard and read of her, Dr. Laura isn't that tolerant, but to each his own opinion. About Matthew Shepard, I think those bad guys should get the death penalty, too. They certainly deserve it. I just hope they don't try to pull anything like what Karla Faye Tucker tried while they're in prison. :( (Note, this entire post is only my opinion.)

Christine: NO!!! We have not yet gotten the book! I'll check my PO Box again today, though. Maybe. And I will let you know as soon as it arrives.

Matt Dymond: I've written a few Gargoyles crossover fanfics. :) Mostly ones crossing it with characters and stories from Marvel Comics (Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, Kingpin, the Rose, some Iron Man villains, and recently the X-Men did a cameo in "Masterpiece"), but also one GI Joe crossover, a Highlander one, two stories where I incorporated the myths of the Flood and the story of Cain and Abel into my Gargoyles universe, and I'm working on a New Olympians crossover as my next work. Then there was my story "Fall of Nightstone," that had a lot of cameo appearances and crossover material as well (mostly from Knight Rider, the Sentinel, and the Saint). You may post all of them if you like. Since the GFW archive is down right now, I'll send you copies of the tales so you can post them. Enjoy! :)

Okay, that's all for now. Still no news on the robbery (and I have a feeling I'm not going to get any for some time <grimace> ). See everyone next time.

** Doug reaches the door of Thailog and Julie Hayden's apartment (note: her name is a combination of that of Ebon's love Julianna in Christine's fic and the name of Karen Allen's character in the movie "Starman"). He knocks and gets no answer, then shurgs and tries the doorknob. Opening it, he sees that Thailog has apparently ripped his apartment's furniture to pieces and the broken dead body of the woman he was living with lies in the center of the destruction. Uh oh. As the screen goes blank, Doug takes out his cell phone to call the police. **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:39:39 AM
IP: hd47-230.hil.compuserve.com

I've been on the run lately, but I just wanted to let everyone know, that one thing i LOVE about the new TGS season is the addition of so many pics in each episode. It really lights up the text and makes it all just a little bit more like TV.
Stormy
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:35:08 AM
IP: taurus.huron.uwo.ca

Doug> You're right. Falwell and Rpbertson are Religious Right. The characters you didn'trecognize are political figures. These are those whiny bed-wetting liberals who are always moaning, "Do it for the children," whenever they whine on C-Span. Bob Jones is another nasty Fundamentalist Minister who called Pope John Paul II the anti-Christ. It's these brands of Protestants that make me wonder if the Reformation was inspired by the Unseelie court. Actually, John Calvin and Oliver Cromwell would make great Unseelies.

On another note, Jerry Falwell and Larry Flynt are personal friends. The same goes with Trent Lott and Bill Clinton. I guess you can see the paralells :)

As for Pat Robertson, I never knew that stunt. he always struck me as a conservative friendly televangelist who may have had a speckled past. At least there are Religious Conservatives like Pope John Paul II, Mother Angelica, Billy Graham, and Dr. Laura Schleschinger who are tolerant and have strog conservatives views, like me :)

I see your point now about the issue. BTW, do you agree that the fiends who killed Matthew Shepard should get the chair, or is that an issue you'd rather not discuss? I for one hope they fry, though impalement would be more fitting. *&^%&%(*&% 8th Ammendment takes all the fun out of punishing criminals :)

TJ Veil> I'm glad to see another Business Major here.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Monday, October 19, 1998 11:01:18 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Brianna and Cliff Oberon and any other new faces I missed > Hi, and welcome! Here you'll find good people, insightful comments, occasional craziness (well, maybe more than occasional <g>), and hopefully enough entertainment to stick around for a while!

Off-topic > The Curse of the Shadow Beasts site is now updated (click on my name), with some new pics, ordering info, a transcript of my recent Talkcity chat (Thanks, Andrea; Stephen, you'll pass that along, won't you dear?), and a new page where I can blather about what's new. Oh, Doug and Lisa, has your book arrived yet?

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:53:58 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Sorry about the double post .
The Rolling Calf / Brian
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:36:53 AM
IP: 208.11.41.210

(Brian runs ahead of the other Ravens , He consults a notepad , and then a look of strain comes over his face as he summons a large portal over all of the other Ravens . The strain increases as the portal begins to move down on top of all them , slowly transporting them elsewhere . During this process he addresses the Comment room .)

Doug / Wilek : My main intention in coming on this mission was to work emergency evac. afterall .

Doug : Boy , Thailog , that must be rough after you gave him the serum and everything . you can use that list of Practical jokes I gave you to get him evicted , as you can see there were a few that could have that effect . And I'm glad your going to draw this out a while longer . Partly because I'm getting to enjoy this and partly because I want to beat Wilek's previous record .( Do'nt take that the wrong way Wilek) . Oh and Doug . I really sent that guy back to Hiroshima . Do'nt worry I wo'nt be time travelling in every post , the energy needed for the spell limits me to once a month and that's if I save up on power .

Firestorm / Lady Mystic : Where are you two ? Please do'nt just up and disappear like Jackal did .

Later all .
(The portal reaches the ground and completes the teleportation process . Brian then tries to summon up a smaller portal for himself , but is dismayed to find that he has exhausted his magic so much that the best he can do is a portal with a 6 inch Diameter . He then turns and runs into a room that looks like it held the VCN's stolen goods , two seconds later the building is destroyed and the air revibrates with the shock of the explosion for 1 square mile . Did he make it ?)
The Rolling Calf / Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:33:42 AM
IP: 208.11.41.210

(Brian runs ahead of the other Ravens , He consults a notepad , and then a look of strain comes over his face as he summons a large portal over all of the other Ravens . The strain increases as the portal begins to move down on top of all them , slowly transporting them elsewhere . During this process he addresses the Comment room .)

Doug / Wilek : My main intention in coming on this mission was to work emergency evac. afterall .

Doug : Boy , Thailog , that must be rough after you gave him the serum and everything . you can use that list of Practical jokes I gave you to get him evicted , as you can see there were a few that could have that effect . And I'm glad your going to draw this out a while longer . Partly because I'm getting to enjoy this and partly because I want to beat Wilek's previous record .( Do'nt take that the wrong way Wilek) . Oh and Doug . I really sent that guy back to Hiroshima . Do'nt worry I wo'nt be time travelling in every post , the energy needed for the spell limits me to once a month and that's if I save up on power .

Firestorm / Lady Mystic : Where are you two ? Please do'nt just up and disappear like Jackal did .

Later all .
(The portal reaches the ground and completes the teleportation process . Brian then tries to summon up a smaller portal for himself , but is dismayed to find that he has exhausted his magic so much that the best he can do is a portal with a 6 inch Diameter . He then turns and runs into a room that looks like it held the VCN's stolen goods , two seconds later the building is destroyed and the air revibrates with the shock of the explosion for 5 square blocks . Did he make it ?)
The Rolling Calf / Brian - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Monday, October 19, 1998 10:30:55 AM
IP: 208.11.41.210

Hi, just reading 'Minions'. While I enjoyed it and thought it was well written for the most part, I have one criticism. Did we have to have the embarrasing, stereotypical English accents that only exist on American TV? I'm sure most people think we have only three accents here in the UK:
Upper-class 'posh' English, as used (terribly) by Helen Baxendale - Ross' fiancee Emily in Friends - IRL, she talks nothing like that.
London cockney - the nightmare of Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins still lingers on.

And Liverpudlian. (Actually this one is pretty accurately portrayed) I don't know if that's good or bad.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, but it needed saying.

MDY

MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKMonday, October 19, 1998 08:29:07 AM
IP: 195.195.164.140

Hmmm... On "Meet The Minions"- I liked it :) But it has to be said- who's the "Iron Maiden" fan in the TGS cast? Not only does Lucius open his speech with the opening lines of "The Number of the Beast", but the named Minions- Char, Eddie, Riggs and Rodney- also come straight out of the Maiden Mythos- notably Charlotte the Harlot, Eddie the Head (who, I notice, is huge and bald, and snarls a lot), and Derek Riggs is the name of Maiden's artist :) Don't know about Rodney, but I'm sure there's something in it...*l*

Just an observation- otherwise a supurb story that I enjoed immensely :)
Aragorn O'Daly
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:40:43 AM
IP: 203.96.111.25

MEET THE MINIONS - *SPOILERS AHEAD *

This is actually just a few of my comments in reply to the readers' comments already posted here.

1. Actually, this isn't the first episode with Lucius in it (although this is the first one with him as an on-stage character). You might be interested in rereading the opening scene of "The Watching Eye", for a carefully-planted Emir-type reference that we gave to him in it.

2. Lucius and the Minions were the creation of the original "Pendragon" head, although we made some alterations to them before writing this story. (The original name for Lucius that my predecessor had planned was "Lazarus", but this didn't rub us the right way, so I suggested the name change to "Lucius").

3. I think that much of the travel problems from Yorkshire to London for Arthur and Co. were caused by having Griff and Cavall along with them. You'd definitely raise a lot of eyebrows if you tried travelling with them via British Rail, say.

*SPOILERS END*

ARTHUR BOOKS - The obvious place to start would be Geoffrey of Monmouth's "The History of the Kings of Britain" and Sir Thomas Malory's "Le Morte d'Arthur", which are the essential framework of the legend. Good modern works include T. H. White's "The Once and Future King" (although the latter parts aren't, IMHO, as good as the opening portions), Mary Stewart's Arthurian tetralogy (The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, The Last Enchantment, and The Wicked Day), and John Steinbeck's "The Acts of King Arthur and His Noble Knights". A good non-fiction study of the legend and its possible historical roots can be found in Geoffrey Ashe's "The Quest for Arthur's Britain".
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 19, 1998 07:18:41 AM
IP: pn8-ppp-136.primary.net

DumlaoX when I first accessed the TGS story site it still showed The Rising Part 2. When I checked on Pendragon Season 2 it showed the new episode. The text site showed the new episode. I checked both sites. The TGS site is now correct.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 06:29:45 AM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

[The screen shows Wilek and et cetera running as fast as they possibly can in order to get out of VCN HQ before it blows. Wilek speaks as he runs.] So Thailog was the Dark Guardian...

I made the last post last week, so probably no one read it. Go to last week's room please.

MDY> Looking for crossover fics? I've got one at the Avalon Archive that you can find by clicking my name. You can host it if you like. (In fact, since virtually all of my future fics will be crossovers, I give you permission to host any of my stuff that you'd like, once it's up.)

Gargs/DWDuck crossover> Ack.

Must run, all. ^_^ [The screen goes dark. Will Wilek, Miriam, Doug, Kitainia, the Black Ravens, and the ten Dark Star stormtroopers make it out alive? Of course they will. But how...?]
Wilek Nereus
Monday, October 19, 1998 06:05:36 AM
IP: tnt-2-72-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

*walks in with a pleased smile on his face*

Well, after weeks of wishing and wanting, I finally did I... I built my own Gargoyle site! Whoopee!

Anyway, I'm sure you're all asking why you should even care that this neophyte has made a webpage, well I am glad you asked....

Sometime before The Gathering '98 someone suggested making a webpage that would list and link all the Gargoyle websites like http://www.bigbot.com does with Transformer pages. Well, it's been a while, and I haven't seen anything. Now, don't get me wrong, there are GREAT link pages out there, but no page that I know of is solely dedicated to Gargoyles links.

Well, now there is one! I have begun building a page to catalog and index (a simple form) all the Gargoyle pages that wish to be listed. If you'd like to see it, just click on my name. :-)

Also, if people want there pages listed, please go ahead and sign up. It'll be the sixth or seventh of November before I have time to begin adding them, but I will greatly accept people who want to be listed.

Thank you for your time. :-)

*walks out of the room to go read this weeks TGS*
Static-Pulse - [khovak@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 04:20:42 AM
IP: mgm166.1.zebra.net

Hi,
To all currently working or having completed crossover fiction, I am in the process of constructing a Gargoyles Crossovers page as part of my site. So If have an appropriate fic, I'd like be able to link to it, or host it on my site.

http://members.spree.com/sip/mattdymond/

Or feel free to stop by for a look. General feedback appreciated.
Matt Dymond (MDY) - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKMonday, October 19, 1998 04:14:01 AM
IP: 195.195.164.140

T.J - A Gargs/DW-Duck crossover? <chuckles> Now you're speaking my language! I've written a couple of crossover Garg-fics (clickie my name for my crossover story page), and I can give you these few tips if you want to do the same attempt:

1.) Know with Intimate detail both universes that you are crossing over, from settings, backgrounds, characters, etc.

2.) Know how the characters from each universe "speaks": inflections, pacing of speach, trademark phrases and sayings.

3.) IMPORTANT! Always use a very plausible point for bringing both universes together (i.e. - read my SwatKats story for the best example).

4.) And lastly, have a love for both universes. I find if you don't enjoy one or the other or both, you will not have a good story.

Ahem! Back to TGS stuff, Will be looking at Meet the Minions later . . . hope everyone likes it!

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, October 19, 1998 03:53:42 AM
IP: 3.ieway.com

Hello everyone.
*Spoiler alert*
Meet the Minnions was a very good establishing story, and introduced some great new characters, Kevin, for one. (love those cockney cabbies!:)) One little quibble though - it was too short! But then, for me, there's no such thing as too much TGS. <g>
*End Spoilers*
Finishing off the survey:
First car: a 323 that I worked my butt off and have paid for myself (I'm really proud of that.)
Accidents: A little one. It's a long story, but, put most simply: Cars and fences don't mix. (I'm probably the only driver in the entire world who can get their car _stuck_ between two pieces of a fence - another thing I'm kinda proud of. ;) )
Tickets: None. *knocking on wood*
Age: 18, going on 19.
Nationality: Australian (any other Aussies here?)
Um, have I forgotten anything? :)
*pulls out a bunch of balloons and some streamers and gives the comment room a new look.*
Happy belated birthday to Spike and AOTN. All the best.
TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 03:43:13 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

Actually, the Current Episode link works. Tried it myself after I finished watching Mercury Rising (which is pretty good)
DumlaoX
Monday, October 19, 1998 02:34:40 AM
IP: ts33-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Oops. Had the wrong name on the below post.
T. J. Veil
Monday, October 19, 1998 01:29:55 AM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

Wow. A fresh room and a new episode. What more could I ask for?
******Spoilers for Meet the Minions******

IMHO this was a so-so episode that held a lot of set-up for future events. It appears that the leader of the minions is an Unseelie, but he also seems to have an unusual talent of compelling people to follow him. It seems that Merlin has seen something like this before, so they may have an advantage in this. Also, we were introduced to several new characters. First we have David the cabbie. I found him entertaining, and I'm wondering if he will show up again or not. Then we have the neighbor of the London clan. He apparently has realized that there are Gargoyles next door to him and I am looking forward to seeing what he does about it. And then there is Char and several other minions. The fact that they were given names means that they are likely to play a fairly important role in the future. One of the problems I had with this episode was the lack of direct contact between the good guys and the bad guys. We see only one short scene in which they meet, and that one doesn't even have much of a resolution. The other problem I had was what seems like a continuity problem between this episode and 'Quest's End.' Quest's End takes place before Reprisals, if I remember correctly, and Arthur returns to London after the events in The Rising. Therefore, it took Arthur and co. at least 4-5 days, probably more, to get back to London after finding Emrys. This seems a lit over-much to me, especially with Merlin aware that his father was at work again. So overall, I can't say this was a great episode, but if the events set up in this ep pay off big later in the season, then this episode serves its purpose.

******End Spoilers******
While, that's my opinion. Feel free to disagree with it, but there it is.

Also, I'm considering writing a FanFic crossover between Gargoyles and Darkwing Duck. I'm wondering what people think of the idea and I would appreciate your comments. Thanks
T. J. Bloom - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 01:26:51 AM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

I don't know if anyone read my last comment so I'll ask again just to be sure. Does anyone know of any good King Arthur books? Or books on Mythology? Or perhaps Magic and sorcery? I really like reading about them. I'll take any movie titles too.
Oh and to all the people who were counting off like second or third and so on...I was number 1 last week so hahahahahahaha!!!!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Monday, October 19, 1998 01:06:45 AM
IP: pm1-30.sma.silcom.com

** The CR screen lights up with a picture of three VCN gang members that seem oblivious to all the shooting and fighting that has been going on in their headquarters recently. They are all rather lazily guarding a vaultlike iron door, one asleep, one cleaning his AK-47, and one perusing an issue of Hustler magazine. Suddenly the door to the room they're in bursts open, to reveal the Black Ravens. Doug quickly blasts the one cleaning his AK with his plasma shotgun, while Gubio shoots the sleeping one with his pistol and STAL gets the other guy with an arrow right through his magazine pages. The Ravens then rush into the room and Doug tries the door to find it locked. He waves to Lathrop, who shakes his head to indicate his spells won't work on an iron door that seems to also be powerfully wizard-locked. Doug groans and then motions to Jammer and Sugarov, who begin to place explosives on the door as Doug turns to make his statements.**

Brian: Thanks for using that phony bomb to cough up the computer password. We got a lot of data out of the computer that details recent activities of the VCNs, the local Bloods and Crips, and several other gangs who seem to now be allied with them. Who or what got all these gangs to start working together instead of fighting each other we still have no idea. However, we did find a triple-encrypted bunch of files on the computer that Gubio downloaded onto some zip disks for later examination. Perhaps these files can tell us the enemy's future plans, if any. We're not finding out much now, just that these guys seem really heavily armed, they have undead and cyborgs in their employ, and there seems no end to them. I hope we're all up to the continual challenge that is surely ahead for all of us (yes, I intend for this RP saga to go on for some time. <grin>)

Green Baron: Thanks for the big addition to my list. I thought Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson were Religous Right, though, not Left. I mean, Falwell leads a bunch of people that want only evolution to be taught in schools and put brutally enforced Christian morality on the entire nation (kind of like an American Taliban), and Robertson is the kind of psycho preacher who once flew over Orlando in a jet and shouted a sermon down with a bullhorn to impersonate God. That does not sound liberal to me. Or sane for that matter. Wonder who David Bonier, Bob Jones, Charles Rangel, Maxine Waters, and Pat Schroeder are. I don't think I've heard of them. (But then I don't move as much in religous circles as you do.) About the homosexuality issue, it's not that the issue is too controversial to talk about, it's just that I don't like discussing it and I didn't really want us to get into a debate about something I don't feel comfortable discussing. (As I've said before, I have no problem with it IRL, I just don't want to become part of a debate I don't feel comfortable participating in.) Good luck with whatever endeavours you next choose to pursue.

Cliff Oberon and Brianna: Welcome.

Coyote: Welcome back, this is also my favorite place on the Web. :)

(Warning: Episode Spoilers!)
And now, my comments on "Meet the Minions." When I first saw the ep title, I was a bit apprehensive. It sounded kinda cliched. Thanks so much, TGS Staff, for proving my suspicions to be ill-founded! It was a neat ep, an excellent intro to the new Pendragon series. The fight scenes were well-written, Emyrs was further developed in a nice way, and Kevin was an entertaining, if minor, character, I thought. As for the Minions gang, they also made great villains. Whoever had the idea for that Lucius guy and his evil Unseelie-worshipping street preacher mentality gets a thumbs-up from me. He has got to be my favorite TGS human villain right now. (Before it was George Harrison, but then George stopped being human.) Hope to learn more about his background and what first corrupted him in future episodes, as well as see more of him and his cult. The cult are also good bad guys, they make excellent thugs for Lucius and the Unseelie. Hope Arthur and the London Clan soon go into action and take care of them.

Of all the Minions gang, Char has to be my favorite after Lucius. She is a good original female gang member. Rodney, Eddie, and Riggs are also good, if stereotypical, thugs and punks. Glad to see TGS is getting its own brand of evil gang members. As anyone who's read my last few fanfics knows, I too like gang members as villains. (And I do have some original ones in my group mixed in with the stereotypes. Particularly Ashley Tray [the really trashy and ugly female punk], BJ [who is the closest I could come to an ogre without putting the species into my universe], and of course Mitch "Muscles" Malone [the gang leader with a military mindset]. Your gang members are just as good as mine, TGS people. Hope we soon see more of them in action.

BTW, it seems as if TGS is becoming another of the many works of apocalypse fiction stories on the market these days. What with a Satan-like fay and his bunch of Unseelie demons starting to corrupt the bad guys of the world and plotting to bring on a reign of terror in which they will take over the world. I have no problem with this, personally. That's partly because what you guys are doing is the best bit of apocalypse series I've read (and I've recently read a lot of it). Only Robert Jordan's work is on the same level and since his stuff doesn't take place in our world it doesn't really count as being about the Earth apocalypse. Keep up the good work, TGS people. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more of what happens, on all sides of the action. Here's hoping that Madoc, Lucius, Garlon, and all the other bad guys in this Apocalypse get taken down by the heroes! :) Can't wait till next week to see more of the exciting events.
(End Spoilers)

Heather: Try typing in the URL instead of clicking the link. That's what got me past that problem and to the episode.

Okay, that's all for now. Let me do a little more RP and then I'll amble on out of here till next time.

** Jammer and Sugarov blow the door open, and the Ravens rush into the VCN's inner sanctum. It looks like this room was once used to store stolen goods and as a mass barracks for the gang members, but now it is completely empty except for a large bigscreen television set. As the Ravens all come inside and begin looking around, an image of Thailog appears on the set. "Fools!" the evil clone yells, causing the Ravens to turn and look at him. "Did you think that I, the Dark Guardian, did not know you were going to come here? You have only thrown a minor wrench into our evil plans and now you will all die. All of my minions you did not vanquish have already escaped to our other base, and the one you are currently the only people inside is set to explode in three minutes. Enjoy the afterlife, fools. Mu ha ha ha ha!!" The screen goes blank as the Ravens turn tail and begun to hightail it back to the building's exit before everything goes kaboom. Tune in next post to see if they make it out okay. (We all know they will, :) ) **
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:58:52 AM
IP: hil-dnppu-087.oh.compuserve.net

Guys !
Everytime I click on it , it says " no name specifies". And that it is not there . What's up with that ?

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:48:58 AM
IP: 205-98-245.ipt.aol.com

Hey! Hey! Number nine! (No Coyote, your number eight)

>Ravyn Maza- What e-mail client do you use? You should be able to use the file attachment command to send a scanned pic with the e-mail message.

>Spike and AotN- Sorry I'm a little late but, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

That's all for now folks, have to go read the next chapter in our beloved saga. But I shall return. *HAHAHAHA*
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:29:11 AM
IP: 171-228-66.ipt.aol.com

BTW, it looks like I'm 9th.

Oh, and for everybody who joined in on the Bruce Campbell/Xena/AOD conversation a couple of weeks ago, I found the URL for those pics I'd mentioned (me with Hudson and my ex with Bruce.). Click my name link ... you'll finally get to see what I look like IRL, rather than in my self-portrait.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:24:06 AM
IP: 207.91.254.32

**Coyote jumps back in to add:**

Ravyn: Basic suggestion for sending file attachments through e-mail is to economize them as much as possible as far as disk space goes. If you can manage to get it under 45kb as a JPEG file, that's the way to go. (Why am I saying this? I'm hoping to get a copy ... want to know how close my pic came!!)

Otherwise ... you could try asking a friend or associate to loan you Web space for the pic, then just send the URL. That might be the way to go. Just a suggestion.

**Coyote jumps back out. Nobody knows why, still.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:21:01 AM
IP: 207.91.254.32

**Coyote enters the room, looking quite relieved.**

Hi guys. It's so great to be back ... with a working e-mail program and my Windows back!! YEE-HAWW!! **composes self** Sorry. I was nearly in a state of shock this evening when my computer decided it was going to be a total brat.

Anyway, if the room's wiped already (I don't know that it has or not), I'm whatever number I am.

Replies to everybody! YAY!!

Coldstone: **pulls out 6-pound chocolate/peanut butter chip cookie** Here's your cybercookie, congratulations on picking up on "Blazing Saddles." I was in kind of a Mel Brooks-ish mood last night (in the other room I left a quote from "Men in Tights"), and was wondering if I would be able to fool anybody into thinking it came from "Cabaret."

**Suddenly Robin Hood's Merry Men parade through the room singing "We're Men In Tights." Coyote screams, pushing the men out the door.**

GET OUTTA HERE!! Yeesh ...

Salutes to everybody who's come in for the first time since I posted last (Malibu, Cliff and Brianna). Have fun while you're here. I'll have you guys know this is my absolute favorite place on the Web.

Doug: I wish the Longhorns better luck in their interstate game (vs. A&M, right?) than my team (Michigan State) had in theirs vs. Michigan.

Mel Brooks' Gargoyles: As much as I'd like to *not* think about it, the thoughts of a Mel Brooks parody of "Gargoyles" have started seeping into my brain. And knowing how Brooks likes to include pieces of related stories/concepts into his parodies, I could imagine him slipping references and blatant cameos of other Disney properties into the mix. Could you imagine, for instance ... the Clan awakening at sunset. The camera pans around the highest tower of Castle Wyvern, as the gargoyles come out of stone sleep. As the camera passes by, we see the gargs awaken in this order:
Broadway
Lexington
Brooklyn
Bronx
Victor (Hunchback)
Hugo (Hunchback)
Mushu (Mulan)
and so on, and so on ...

Fun ensues.

AotN: Cute song ... something related to one song I heard on a Dr. Demento TV special a couple years back called "Shaving Cream." I liked it.

Okay, I'm out ... to read the new episode, if it's up yet.

**Coyote jumps out the door. Nobody knows why.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:16:10 AM
IP: 207.91.254.32

OK PEOPLE LISTEN UP!!! It's still showing the Rising Part 2 as the current episode. Click on Pendragon, then Season Two and you'll get it. Or go to the text site and you'll get it..

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:06:12 AM
IP: proxy-351.public.rwc.webtv.net

6th or 7th .
Brian
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:04:45 AM
IP: 208.11.41.196

I'm sixth.....
why are we counting?
A.J. - [AVALON1024@AOL.COM]
PGH, PA, USA
Monday, October 19, 1998 12:04:33 AM
IP: spider-wd063.proxy.aol.com

Fifth!!
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:57:47 PM
IP: proxy-351.public.rwc.webtv.net

I'm 4th !
And the new story ain't up ! WHY ?
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:50:54 PM
IP: 174-223-101.ipt.aol.com

Third! Bwah ha! Bwah ha ha!
Sevarius Jr.
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:47:42 PM
IP: 207-172-87-232.s232.tnt6.brd.erols.com

YEAH!!!!! I'M NUMBER TWO!!!!!! *nods to her football buddies* Thanks, guys, that will be all...**Ravyn finally leaves, taking the team with her.** :)
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:46:23 PM
IP: svm-ts5-20.c2i2.com

**A whistle blows, and a couple football players force their way into the room so Ravyn can get in and hopefully score a place in the top ten.**

Okay, thanks guys,...What place am I? ;)

All right, I have some scanned pictures of me and my "football stud" saved on a disk. Anybody have any advice on how in the world I send 'em to people through e-mail? (I'm relatively new to the computer world...) ;) And while I'm trying to figure out how to do this, anybody want me to send 'em one? They were taken at my house right before Homecoming... :)

**Ravyn grins and hopes someone will be able to give advice on her computer dilemma...**
Ravyn Maza
Arizona
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:44:48 PM
IP: svm-ts5-20.c2i2.com

The stage is set, but what will Arthur do?

Meet The Minions

The new TGS episode

Written By Carollyn "Aerie" Marie and Mike Norrish

Story idea by Kathy Pogge

Enjoy!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:44:15 PM
IP: ts50-42.wla.ts.ucla.edu