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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SJ!!!! Have a terrific one, okay? :)
Ravyn Maza
Sunday, November 15, 1998 07:17:55 PM
IP: 207.204.224.21

**The screen comes back on. Coyote's shot catches the evil rustler Dennis in the chest, knocking him off his horse and into the mass of stampeding cattle. Inside Stephanie's Taurus, Kitainia is talking to Gubio on her cell phone. "Dragons dragons I dragons dragons found some dragons dragons info on Marsh and dragons dragons Binky's circus in the computer. It's been dragons dragons e-mailed to you dragons and the dragon king!" Kitainia thanks him, hangs up, and turns to face the Comment Room.**

You just had to put your virus on that computer equipment you sent poor Gubio, didn't you, Traveler?

Jackal: Nice webpage. I liked what I saw, and hope to see more soon. BTW, what was that pic supposed to be of? I didn't get it.

Best fanfic series: TGS is first, then Christine's, Spike's, Coyote's, Stephen RS's, and Doug's, in my opinion.

Best fanfic characters: Sata, Madoc, Jericho, Elektra, Spike, Avery, David & Jessica, Rosanna, Rowan, and Seth Figaro.

SJ: Happy birthday! Your present is in the mail. For the record, it is DNA samples from a bunch of boring and/or dumb UT professors, all of whom are very tough on grades. If you would be so kind, please make some clones of the professors from it who do not display those qualities. Then we can replace the real professors here at my University. <evil chuckle>

Coyote: I know a little about cattle stampedes, and stopping them. What you're doing is a good start, but cattle can be very stubborn about continuing what they're doing even after the motivation is removed. So we'll also have to wipe out their energy to stop them. Then we can get out of this predicament.

That's all for now, see everyone when the new ep is up!
**Kitainia notices that Lathrop and Orion are getting ready to cast one of their infamous joint-communal magics. "I don't even want to know what you guys are planning," she tells them, even as they each lean out a car window and send bursts of magical energy at the ground in front of the cattle. Said ground begins to shake, creating a huge earthquake that knocks the entire herd over, stopping the stampede quickly. Cursing loudly, the three flying spiky-mutant rednecks and the two rustlers in a beat-up gray pickup drive around the winded herd and start heading toward the heroes' convoy. As the good guys scramble to pull away from them and get back to the highway, both Lathrop and Orion fall unconscious from the extreme amounts of energy they've been devoting to spellcasting. The screen goes blank. To be continued...**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 06:57:34 PM
IP: hil-c45-056-vty9.as.wcom.net

SJ: Happy b-day, dude! If my car were in ready reach, I would give a four-cylinder salute, but as it is I'll have to settle for this.

**A panel opens up in the floor of the CR. Up rises a two-tier chocolate-on-chocolate-on-chocolate cake with weird sparkling candles.**

Dig in and enjoy! The specialty of the house, Chocolate Execution!
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, November 15, 1998 05:52:25 PM
IP: modem45.i-is.com

***Sevarius Jr. and the gang are off in search of the Millennium Falcon, hoping to snatch it from the evil clutches of Thailog. Suddenly, SJ screams at the stop of his lungs, "STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!"
Everybody stops and looks at him.***

Guess what day it is?

**Everybody shrugs.**

Well, come on, guess!

**"Um...November 15?" someone says.**

Well, technically. But today's a special day. Can you guess?

**"Is it Rosh Hashanna?" "Yom Kippur?" "Boxing day?" "All Saint's Day?"**

No, no, more importantly....IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!
That's right, happy freakin' birthday to me! Today I am a year older, and no more the wiser. Please, send all presents to the usual location. And no mail bombs this time!

Christine: The postman usually has to deliver a wide variety of weird, bizarre packages (you know, gene splicers, DNA samples, giant Patagonian tree sloths, the usual), so your book won't be anything out of the ordinary. He'd better bring it soon though, or else I'm gonna send out one of my "less successful" experiments to get it from him.

Wilek: Hmm, interesting background on Han. Who knew we had an intergalactic legend livin' on our little rock all this time? Hmm...maybe he knew a guy named Lucas. As for Chewie, at least he was well treated, until that bastard Thailog showed up...

Well, gotta go. After we find the Falcon, I'm gonna enjoy my b-day festivities.

**SJ and the rest resume their search....**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 05:38:35 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.webcache.erols.net

**The screen lights up, revealing the convoy (the bike, the tank and the Taurus) speeding away from the oncoming stampede. The tank is now being driven by the Gearhead; Buick is in the Commander's roost with Coyote. Jason is in the belly of the tank, keeping watch over the engines.**

Must go faster ... must outrun ...

<"Hey boss, why are we running?">

Well whaddya want to do? Those cattle're somebody's property, I'm not about to mow through them and create 200 tons of hamburger!

<"Good point.">

What we need is a sharpshooter ... I'll make some replies while I think of something.

Coldstone: Okay, then you must have more patience for Texas weather than my mom does (no offense, all Texans in here!!), because of all the duty stations she had she always says that Corpus was the *worst.*

Robby, Heather: I really really really really REALLY liked Road Rovers! Although some of the characters tended to grate on my nerves (read: Blitz), overall it was another great show that died too early (the WB cancelled it after one 15 episode season; every once in a while you can catch an ep on Cartoon Network, if you're interested.). And thinking about the trouble we've had with Toon Disney gratuitously editing Gargoyles: there was a short little ditty about how Russian children get their middle names that only aired once, then was completely cut out of the episode because S&P had a serious problem with the sample name that was created in the song ("Sonovovitch").

Robby again, re bike riding: You were thinking the same thing I was every time I got on my bike in 18-inch snow and ice while at college: I can't drive, but I need to be there in a hurry without intentionally killing myself.

Robby once more: Almost forgot, congrats on the new nephew!

Robby once more with feeling: Thanks for sticking it out on my fics.

Doug: Thanks for the high regard. Surprising since it seems to me you were initially reluctant to read them. Boy how time changes opinions! ;)

Mandi: You have the absolute kewlest study abroad program in the entire COUNTRY!! Scotland! WOW!! (The most interesting study abroad program that Michigan State ever offered was film study ... in Mexico.) Congratulations yourself. Have fun looking for everybody's favorite castle!

Jaden: It certainly is.

Spike: *ROTFLMAO* That line from "Road Trip" is *definitely* the Best Line from your fics!

Jackal: Good start. And I don't worry about unreadable text against backgrounds because I turned all the graphics off (pages load *much* faster that way! :)). Anyway, only one other thing to say ... couldn't get the RA greeting because I can't run RealAudio on my machine, but I read the transcript. Dude! Twisted! (and that's why we like you so much ... you don't squelch the insanity, you just give it substance!)

***RP!!***

I've got an idea. Jason, hand me up the .22!

**Jason's arm appears out of one of the hatches in the tank, handing Coyote a .22 sniper rifle. Coyote levels the rifle toward the rustlers.**

Let's see ... if the guys don't whip them up, the cattle won't stampede. Let's take out the motivation!

**Coyote squeezes the trigger. Static suddenly appears on the screen, as the video feed fails before the results of Coyote's shot can be seen.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, November 15, 1998 05:36:19 PM
IP: modem45.i-is.com

Note: Soory = sorry in that last post. Sorry for the spelling error.
Doug
Sunday, November 15, 1998 04:53:12 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zom-vty36.as.wcom.net

Just realized something. I did the survey for my own fanfic saga and for fanfic, but I never did it for the actual series!! (Thanks for reminding me, Kitainia.) Actually, the point is moot because all my responses have already been given by other people, but I'll do it anyway.

Funniest: "The Mirror" and where the Trio crashes into the wall while fighting over Angela.

Worrisome: "Future Tense" and Thailog faking his death in "Double Jeopardy."

Coolest: Petros blasting Oberon with the harpoon gun and what happens to him, the medieval battle scenes in all the flashbacks.

Most Romantic: The Kiss, the dance, and the looks on Goliath's face as he watches Jason and Elisa (Hunter's Moon Part One). "Daylight's" end scene and "The Promise's" wedding for Brooklyn and Sata.

Biggest Suprises: Loki being trapped in the Gate, Puck being Owen, and John, who I thought was the most reformable of the Hunters, turning into Castaway.

Best Lines: "The moon was full, the nightbirds sang." -Sata. "I know how to wait." -Hudson. "I need a detective." -Goliath. "Soory, pal, but this investigation isn't over yet." -Elisa.

This has been my last post until the new ep comes up tonight and I've read it. Later, people!
Doug Elder
Sunday, November 15, 1998 04:52:29 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zom-vty36.as.wcom.net

"Road Rovers ?" Who said my favorite tv show than Gargoyles and Sailor Moon ? I want to know ! My favorite character has to be Colleen and maybe Exile !

* she smiles and gets a russian accent ** "I LOVE being Road Rover !"


Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 03:41:33 PM
IP: 171-171-94.ipt.aol.com

Coyote> *grins* Let's just say that most of them are about as good at bowling as they are at football...;)

**Ravyn carefully exits, making sure none of her football-playing friends are waiting to jump her outside the door...** ;)
Ravyn
Sunday, November 15, 1998 03:05:49 PM
IP: 207.204.224.16

**Jim and Muzzle wait, and watch as an evil clone enters the room. Jim springs into action, and uses Muzzle for the only reason he brought him for...**

Starsinger- It's a nephew, and he is NOT named Jason...

Coyote- I'll be returning Muzzle after this post. I only brought him in so I could say a certain line... Nice to see someone else has heard of the Road Rovers tho... Excellent funny show. Shame it was cancelled...
Also, I'm almost through your stories. I would be finished, but there's like 2 dozen universes out there, and it IS my goal to read EVERY piece of garg. fanfic there is, insane though that may be...

Mandi- Congrats, it sounds like a good setup all around.

Wilek- A garg. saved Han Solo from a mugging? Typical...

Spike- G99 looks spiffy... I will try to attend...

Jackal- I was able to check out your page for about twenty seconds, and then the background popped up. You weren't kidding, that IS hard to read...

Only a few more hours till the new story goes up! In the meantime, I still have about 6 fanfic universes to read that I know of! Oii...

**An evil grin comes over Jim, who stares at the clones. He removes the dog's muzzle, and shouts, "LET'S MUZZLE 'EM!" (I've always wanted to say that!) The mad dog Muzzle proceeds to tear up the evil clones off screen. Screams and ripping metal can be heard, again off screen. And gunshots. And a roaring lizard. When it is over, Muzzle is somewhat fatter, and lets out a loud burp. "Good boy, I'll take you home now..."**
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 02:35:39 PM
IP: spider-wd021.proxy.aol.com

The evil soon begins!!! Seriously, I'm not kidding. If you have a weak stomach, don't click on things you can't see. I know my page my be slightly hard to read, don't worry the background is only temp. Soon you'll see (and hear), just how crazy in the head I am. I'm still in the contruction stages, so don't expect anything too big.., I'm wantin to say somethin else but..., I'll wait.
Jackal - [Jkal1127@aol.com]
Ga, usa
Sunday, November 15, 1998 01:44:16 PM
IP: spider-wd072.proxy.aol.com

Hmmmm..... Things from my fanfic?

Favorite Character: Spike (which is funny, considering that the first thing I did was to kill him off.)

Best Moment: There's too many things that I liked personally to pick without sounding, well, conceited. Avery talking about her father Spike in "The Last Gargoyle", exploring Lex and Tina's relationship, and "Despair and Deliverance" because it touched people outside of the Gargoyles fanverse.

Most Worrisome: When Brooklyn saw Avery fall from the Eyrie Building as he turned to stone in "Daddy's Girl" and most of "Despair and Deliverance"

Most Romantic: Practically anything to do with Avery and Brooklyn, especially the poetry reading scene in "Mockingbird" and Lex and Tina in "Faith".

Funniest Moment: It's a toss-up between the manure-bombing scene in "Deep In The Heart", Avery hogtying Demona in "Avery's Bad Day", and the Owen Burnett sound alike contest in "Despair and Deliverance."

Best Line: "Laddie, I may an old gargoyle, but even I can think of a few things to do to a naked female in a shower!" -- Hudson to Lex in "Road Trip"
"Y'know, I'm not crazy about Puck, but I'm right fond of his flip side." *crooks finger* "C'mon, girls..... let's wrassle." -- Natty Jones to the Weird Sisters in "Some Enchanted Evening."
Spike
Sunday, November 15, 1998 08:06:41 AM
IP: dal-as1-1225.cmpu.net

I'm running really behind tonight so I'll have to make this short.
**Amazing! That's all Jaden could think. One minute he was totally alone in the world, next he's with a group that accepts him as a werewolf. Now their all on the run from a bunch of stampeding cattle. "I think I'm going to stay with this group for a while," he says to himself as the screen goes blank. To be continued**

Wilek Nereus> Yeah, I like ghosts, witches, and vampires too.

Hey I heard that the Fanfic Archive is going to be back up in a few days. Isn't that great?!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Sunday, November 15, 1998 03:23:31 AM
IP: pm1-14.sma.silcom.com

Urk! If knew we could mention our own fanfics, I could have said this:

Best Moment: When Elisa and Demona reconciled after rescuing Demona and Macbeth's daughter from Sevarius in "Alliance of Hearts"

Most Worrisome: When the Stranger and Jon Canmore had Elisa (pregnant with Goliath's children), Hudson, and Princess Katharine prisoner in Oberon's castle, while Goliath and the others were helpless outside in "In Avalon's Nursery"

Most Romantic: A tie, between the "hottub" scene between Elektra and Matt in "Longings" and Goliath and Elisa in "The Gift".

Favorite Characters: Toss up between David and Jessica DeGuy (the Twins), and Det. Roxanna Hershey.

My Favorite series: Christi Hayden's, Dylan Blaquerie's and Christine's in that order. there are others, but too numberous to mention here.


Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrs@xoommail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, November 15, 1998 03:00:25 AM
IP: 126.ieway.com

Thanks for the compliments on the patterns, Theresa. <hugs>
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, LA, USA
Sunday, November 15, 1998 01:46:23 AM
IP: max1-145.eatel.net

Okay, I'm pushing us over the 400k mark here. Hope no one gets mad about it (nobody will probably). This time it's definitely mostly the RP saga's fault. So blame us if you want to, people...

**The screen comes on again. Doug is saying, "Look, there's safety in numbers. You helped Kitainia, let us help you. We're headed for San Antonio, we can let you off there. The city's real big and easy to get lost in." Jaden looks back at him and nods. "Thanks, but you really don't have to help me. It's not your problem." "It will be when this Tracker guy comes looking for us as a clue to where you're headed," points out Stephanie. "You make it sound like he very well could. It's better if we face him together. You know what we're up against, and we have all the powers to take him out. C'mon." Jaden sighs. "Alright. How many of you are there?" "Counting you, twenty-one," Doug says. "The rest are back at the truck stop. I'll make a post, then we'll get going." He turns to face the Comment Room.**

Fleur: Our hacker's name is Gubio, not Guido. Guido was an ex-football player who worked for the Fundamentalist Extreme before he was run over by Ricky Williams and then tackled and sacked to death by Adam Sandler's Waterboy. Don't worry, he won't be appearing in this saga anymore. Gubio is actually just our hacker pal's screen name, it's a reference to his favorite story of St. Francis. His real name is M. Alexander Cleary, Jr. and he works for a successful computer advice and software design business here in Austin called "Computer Nerds." (Yes, it is really called that!) He's a very nice person.

Fanfic Survey: Any romance moments in Christine's fanfic, especially for Goliath and Elisa, Lex and Aiden, or Elektra and Broadway, definitely fits under Most Romantic. Already mentioned events in "Breeding Season" and "Jericho on the Island of Amazon Women" get prizes for funniest. I consider Avery and Jericho the best fanfic characters.

(Shameless Plug and Fanfic Spoilers Alert!)
Here are what I consider the best moments from my own fanfiction:

Funniest: I don't have too many funny parts, I'm not that good a comedy writer. I think Demona's reaction to waking up on the back of Seth's motorbike in "One Psycho to Another" and the last scene with Del Dawson and Jen Slovak in "Final Hunt" come closest to best for this.

Worrisome: First is how Madoc had such a big hand in the immortality of both Agony and Seth, two characters who are determining the clan's destiny (and vice versa) so much in my fic. Second is how Seth resembles a certain guy Agony killed a LONG time ago so much, how Seth's earliest memory is of being raised from the dead, and how he and Agony are always feeling they know each other, but then they can't think how (yes, this will be eventually explained in "End to the Rage" but I think most of my readers probably already know the answer). Silvan's creating the super-powerful Ultra-Pack and being able to manipulate everyone so much into doing what he wants, as well as he and Sevarius turning Rachel into Changeling ("Masterpiece"), come in third here.
Romantic: The scene with Sycamore and Lillith in "Choices." Also the one later in that where Agony and Laura finally admit their feelings for one another. The painting scene in "Final Hunt" comes in second along with the last scene of "To Be Immortal", and the end scene of "Webs and Stone" where Peter and Felicia take their masks off is third place in my opinion.

Coolest: What Changeling does at the bank and in the parking garage in "Masterpiece." Demona walking into the gym in "One Psycho to Another" with the SWAT team right behind. Any scene where Agony uses his bionic hand to zap something.

Biggest surprises: Destro and Flint as the same person in "The Past Returns." That Rachel became Changeling and was able to adjust to it so quickly in "Masterpiece" (though, as later fics will show, she still has a lot of growing up to do and things to learn). Madoc being responsible for Seth's immortality instead of Oberon. Demona revealing herself fully (as a reformed villain) to the public in "One Psycho to Another" (yes, that scene wrote itself. Once I had Brendan hit her, I just couldn't stop throwing big events in there. Glad nobody has yet pointed out how crazy it all was for that to happen).

Best lines: I have several favorite moments. Here're a few of them:

"He's going to jail, Lowlight," Mainframe snapped. "Just like what's left of his Vipers. I think somebody killed everybody else."
(Seth) "Rats, they beat me to it."
- "The Past Returns"

(Laura) "So tell me more about this Russell Nash."
"Oh, I can tell you a lot more than he can," a heavily Scottish-accented voice intruded. (Connor MacLeod)
-"To Be Immortal"

"Oberon does not command all the Third Race," the male voice returned angrily. "We are here not to punish you but to help you. Did you really believe that Adam would let you go even if your offering was accepted? Did you not want to kill your brother, avenge all the pain he has inflicted upon you? Do you really think there is any other way they would let you return to your clan?" (Madoc)
- "Choices."

"Relax," the strange being breathed in an oddly sinister and haunting voice. "You're about to be given a great gift, Rachel E. Xanatos." (Silvan)

"Changeling," a voice interrupted from the room's doorway. "I think I like that name a lot better than the one Sevarius chose for me." (Changeling/Rachel Xanatos)
-"Masterpiece."

"How can you side with these human monsters?"
"The only monster I see here, Helios," said Taurus, "is you."
-"Clash of the New Olympians."

Best "Stand up and cheer" Moments: When Duncan leaps out of the bacta tank and attacks Sevarius in "To Be Immortal." Demona saving Angela from Castaway in "Final Hunt." Changeling flipping Greenhead's car over before it can hit Goliath in "Masterpiece." And last but not least, Doc's creaming the mohawked gang leader in "Final Hunt," showing that not all bartenders are wimpy.
(Spoilers and Plugging End Now!)

Best fanfic series: TGS first, then Christine's and Coyote's. I hope mine is or will be also somewhere in there, although I know I will NEVER measure up to these people. <smile>

Okay, that's all for now, later!
**Coyote's tank arrives and the Ravens and Jaden have the aforementioned exchange with them. Coyote mentions the Borg-Morons, and Doug sighs. "Well, if you saw them, the others probably also did," says Kitainia. "They'll take care of those two permanently." Coyote nods. "By the way, this is Jaden. He'll be coming with us." Coyote nods again, then Gearhead notices the dark cloud approaching. At the same time the ground begins shaking and shouts of "Yee haa!!" and "Yipee!!" along with the stamping of many hooves echos from the horizon. Lathrop pulls out his eagle-eye glasses and looks through them as Coyote and crew get back in their tank. "It's a cattle stampede," he says. "A big one." Doug takes and looks through the glasses. "Oh hell," he sighs, recognizing three of the cowboys driving it as people his friend Jammer had to beat up or was beat up by several times in high school, named Travis, Ted, and Dennis. The other three are the mutated rednecks from earlier in the saga (minus their leader Graham Johnson). "Looks like Asil had a backup plan ready for us. Everyone into the cars, now, we got to outrun them." Lathrop nods and casts mechanical haste spells on the engines of Kyryn's bike, the tank, and Stephanie's Taurus. The good guys, including Jaden, all then pile into their vehicles and drive off at top speed. The screen fades out. To be continued...**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 01:45:38 AM
IP: hil-c45-050-vty97.as.wcom.net

I received a snail mail letter from Simplicity patterns today and they said that they have "forwarded my request for Gargoyles patterns to their Craft Design Department for consideration when planning future lines."

See my other post if you want to write them a letter requesting the Gargoyles costume design. :)
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, LA, USA
Sunday, November 15, 1998 01:44:52 AM
IP: max1-145.eatel.net

Might I, your local film expert, suggest some films I had the pleasure of seeing today:

Clay Pigeons.....creepy movie, just my style
Rozencrantz and Guildenstern and Dead.....early 90's film that's I'd never heard of but was really good. It had Tim Roth and Gary Oldman (and he actually wasn't a bad guy)
Cape Fear.....the original, not the remake
and as always, my usuals which I've seen a million+ times:
Reservoir Dogs.....Tarantino's greatest
Chasing Amy.....Smith's best
A Clockwork Orange.....one of Kubrick's best

I did absoulutley nothing productive today. If you're looking for something to do, might suggest writing a letter to Anne Rice asking for information of a film version of The Vampire Lestat.
Ordell - [ordell9425@geocities.com]
Sunday, November 15, 1998 12:50:00 AM
IP: 206-153-223.ipt.aol.com

[Wilek, Miriam, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, the Doom Commandos, TRC, the bikers, the five Dark Troopers, SJ, and Frankie are in the Area 51 research facility. Jake and a cyber-imp are hacking into the computer, finding out what the late Han and Chewie have been up to since their ship crashed 50 years ago. Jake: "Hey 'Lek? I think I found--"] Please don't call me Lek or Lekkers or whatever. It's WILEK. [Jake: "Sorry. Anyhow, I found out what they've been doing. Turns out that Area 51 personnel found Chewie unconscious and bleeding to death at the crash site and brought him here and took care of him. He was actually pretty well treated, until Thailog offed him. Han was off trying to find help for Chewie, so he escaped capture. He came back, found Chewie gone, and spent the next 50 years or so pretending to be an Earth citizen. He finally found out where they were keeping Chewie, but he was arrested for trespassing when he tried to retrieve him. He told them that he was a close personal friend of the big furry thing they'd captured, so they figured he was an alien too (which he was, I guess) and held him for analysis. That's when Thailog took over and everything started going straight to h***. He killed Han and Chewie just so he could claim the Falcon by right of salvage. I think we know the rest."] Man...what a life that must have been. I wonder if he encountered any gargs. [Jake: "Well, there's a transcript of an interrogation here where he says he *did* meet one on the way here. Han thought the garg was a fellow alien. Saved him from a mugger I think."] Oh, neat.

Jaden> You're a werewolf? Too kewl. Jake here's a wolf mutate. [Jake waves.] I'm really into werewolves and ghosts and vampires and witches and things like that.

SJ> I will forever think of Darth Vader as "some Jedi bigshot". I love the unique perspective you give to this whole thing.

Robby> Born on Friday The 13th?! TOO KEWL!

Stephen> Digigrade! I MUST remember that word...

Christine> "Slavering monstrosity"! I MUST remember that phrase...

Oh, the survey extends to fanfic now!
Funniest: Most of Rahsaan Footman's "Enter The Dragon" and Fire Storm's "Bye Bye Billy"
Coolest: Ditto, tied with "Split Infinities", "All Through The Night", "Forever", and any Animaniacs crossover
A non-fanfic kewl moment is anytime any skyship is on screen. I love skyships for some reason. (I'm a big fan of TaleSpin's Iron Vulture. If I could find a way to plausibly cross Gargs with TaleSpin, the Vulture and Renard's Fortress II would get into a fight. I don't know who would win.)

Fire Storm> Hyena was also Penny? REALITY.SYS CORRUPTED. UNIVERSE HALTED. REBOOT (Y/N)? Y

Well, we have to move out, try to find the Falcon before Thailog launches it. Come on. [The team leaves the room and begins stalking the halls, trying to find the launch bay. Soon, they are ambushed by fifty security guards. They're quite outmatched...and then they're not. Two vampire eagles, one black and one white, swoop down from the rafters and tear the guards to bits. The team looks up, and Dark Mage Wilek is standing in said rafters. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, November 14, 1998 11:27:31 PM
IP: tnt-2-52-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**WARNING: GRATUITOUS HAPPY GUSHING ABOUT TO COMMENCE. PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED AND TAKE COVER NOW!**

Yes!! I don't believe it! I only have to take 15 credit semesters to get out of here in 4 years, I found someone to live with next semester so Res Life won't consolidate me, and I just talked to Dad today, and he finally said yes--I can study abroad in Scotland next year!!!! YES!!!

**GRATUITOUS HAPPY GUSHING ENDS. YOU CAN ALL COME OUT NOW**

*whew* Excuse me. It's been kind of an uphill battle convincing Dad to let me study abroad with a double major. But noting that St. Andrews is really close to a large golf course helped my case. :)

I suppose I should take a crack at this survey, although I'm really fuzzy on specifics, since I haven't seen the eps in a while (USA's time block was too early for me), but here we go.

The Show:
Funniest moment--Has to be a tie between the Trio hitting the wall in "Turf" and the banana cream pie hitting Goliath in "Vendettas." Even from a wuss like Vinnie, I wasn't expecting that!
Biggest surprise--Owen being Puck. I picked up on Titania/Anastasia from "Ill Met By Moonlight", but Owen was a real shocker.
Most romantic moment--Elisa and Goliath in "Eye of the Beholder" dancing.
Stand-up-and-cheer moment--The famous kiss, and that's exactly what I did when I first saw the end of HM3.
The "Hey, why didn't I see *that* coming? Cool!" plot twist--Griff becoming Arthur's knight.
Best line that hasn't been mentioned (I don't think):
"In Avalon, Oberon's word is law."
"Does that mean he's always right?"
"Not while he's married."
--Ill Met By Moonlight

My fanfic: *sigh* Well, I'm my own worst critic, but here we go.
Funniest--Elisa and Matt's prank war (Weekend Off), although most of "Moving on Up" takes a close second.
Surprising--To me? Having Callie go from a three-line plot device (Good to Be Back) into a major player (Weekend Off). I don't plan these things out. It just happened.
Worrisome--Colleen's dismissal of her suicidal streak(Sky's the Limit). I want to do a lot more with that once I get to the rewrite.
Coolest--Random giving the Weird Sisters a run for their money(Relatively Speaking).
Best line: Can't think of any. Bleah.

Uncle Robby--Congratulations! How does it feel to be an uncle? :)

On the Inspector Gadget flick--Agggh! I didn't see the ET bit, I only heard about it from someone. Matthew Broderick? No, no, no, no, NO! But I, too, have "ST: Insurrection" to wait for...that should be good!

SJ: Absolutely loved "Birthright!" Poor Broadway...

*sniff* Ugh, this sinus headache is driving me nuts. I think I need to crash (although I've practically been sleeping all day anyway). Night all!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 11:07:20 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

**Hunter from Road Rovers enters the room, handing a note to Robby. It's from Coyote:**

Robby: The Rovers are asking that you please return Muzzle. The Master is looking for him, and you were only supposed to take him out for a four-minute walk.

**Hunter leaves.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:35:25 PM
IP: modem31.i-is.com

Well Uncle Robbie are we a niece or a nephew?? I know all about riding a bike in the sun, wind, rain, or snow. Main wheels don'tcha know. The bad thing is the breaks don't work when the wheel rim gets wet.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:33:40 PM
IP: proxy-371.public.rwc.webtv.net

(Jim Iza Noying walks into the room, pushing along a rabid dog in a straight jacket and muzzle.)

Oh no, its raining again! And we're still feeling the repricutions of what happened last month... Helpful hint to everyone here, do NOT go bike riding when there's a 90% chance of rain! What was I thinking?

Lets see, I think I put up Asrial's picture last time... So I should be on Atalanta now...

Gee, we're almost to the 400 K mark... And my commenting on that fact isn't helping matters any is it?

Hey, weren't the RPers supposed to have hit San Antonio by now? Of course, considering whats going on, its probably a good thing they haven't...

Damocles- Small bodied Japanese style art.. Spiffy stuff...

Survey- What have I started? Ah well, I have to stay out of voting on fanfics, because I haven't read them all yet. Not for lack of trying, but for some reason, my web searches aren't coming up with anybody's pages! Hmm...

(Jim explains what he's doing. "The gators are good defense, but Thailog will be sending clones of me in a while, so they won't be able to tell the difference! So, I brought in this little guy from a different show. Temporarily of course. Hunter will miss his friend if he's gone too long...") No contest involved here, I'm just curious to see who actually know what I'm talking about. If you've seen the show, you know. If you haven't, well, you should!
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:03:27 PM
IP: spider-tn083.proxy.aol.com

FLEUR - Of course, the really big question is: if Madoc found out that Titania and Anastasia Renard were the same person, who'd things get the most messy for: Titania, Fox, or Halcyon Renard?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, November 14, 1998 09:23:03 PM
IP: pn8-ppp-151.primary.net

AIRWALKER-- Check it once more. I just went to check it and the image for the ep is there.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 09:03:53 PM
IP: pool0030-max6.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Okay, if Christine can do it, so can I. Fave moments from my own works:

Funniest *and* Best Line: "She's Goliath's daughter, all right." -- Brooklyn (younger TimeDancer) reacting to Rosanna's temper in "Pas de Deux."
Worrisome: tie between Goliath at death's door in "Shadows and Memories" and Rosanna's seizure in "The Storm."
Romantic: tie between the endings of "Soulscape" and "Life and Death at Castle Wyvern."
Coolest: Have to think about that one ... how about Lina turning the Rokkan attackers into pigeons in "By the Grace of Oberon."
Biggest surprises: Angela revealed to be under magical influence by her mother in "Soulscape"; Demona placing the same spell on Samson in "Prodigals."

Not to be ego-gratifying ... just being fair.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:54:36 PM
IP: modem56.i-is.com

**The screen lights up to reveal Coyote's tank having just pulled up to the rest of the party. Everyone piles out to greet the newly-escaped Kitainia.**

All right, we didn't miss too much with the engine problems, guys. While everybody takes a breather here, I'll make some replies, since there's not a lot.

Kitainia re Alamo: Had a thought about him, too. Another explanation is that he could have hollow bones, which would make him much lighter, thus able to use kite-wings.

Damocles: Hey there, dude! Nice to see ya around these parts!

Fire Storm: Did you see the short featurette ET did on the IG movie? From what I saw, it didn't look too bad; oh sure, it's still going to be a comedy, but at least the good Inspector managed to keep half of his brain (as opposed to the animated one who probably couldn't find his own @$$ with both hands and a map).
BTW, how is Hunter Fire Storm and Bubba enjoying the firearm deer season thus far?

Ravyn: Dang. Too bad about the team (how did they do bowling? Perhaps that's their sport (j/k!!!).), but then again I can sympathize ... my HS football team had two really sour years when they went 2-7. Weird seasons, actually ... their losses were by an average of 35 points, but the two wins in each season were shutouts. Glad our suggestions helped.

Answering Coldstone's additions to the poll ...

Best fanfic moment: for me, a tie between the birth of Elisa's twins in "Heartfyre and Destyni" (Skydancer) and Lex and Tina finally getting together in "Faith."

Best fic character: By and large, Avery.

Best fic scene: Now this is a hard one ... hmm ... at least the most humorous one for me was the whole "breeding frenzy" sequence in Christine's "Breeding Season," just for some of the moments in it (the Trio discussing their side bet (which Goliath winds up winning), Xanatos opening his window (nearly died laughing at *that* scene!) ... funny, but everything else kind of melts into my memory of the scene.).

And adding ...

Best TGS line: Take a look at the beginning of my 17th fic, "Pas de Deux." There's a line Sata said in "The Promise" which has to be the single-best marriage proposal ever written.

Okay, I'm out.

***RP!!***

<"Hey boss, check out the horizon.">

What about it, Gearhead?

<"Wait, I see it. I don't think it's supposed to be that dark, Coyote.">

**Coyote narrows his eyes.** I see it now. Looks like another wave of goons approaching. Then again, I have been wrong before, but better safe than sorry.

**The crew piles into the tank. Coyote leaps into the Commander's Seat, turning the turret to face the oncoming stampede as the screen fades out.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:45:02 PM
IP: modem56.i-is.com

My survey replies (had to do it twice, once for the show and once, arrogantly and self-servingly for my fic <g>)

The Show:
Funniest... *zzzt* "Owch." *zzzt* "Owch." from Enter MacBeth
Worrisome... Jason puttin' the moves on Elisa, Hunter's Moon
Romantic... just about everything Goliath says to Elisa, most notably "I need ... a detective," "If only we ..." and "How we both feel." Also the dance, the Kiss, and the way he could not keep his hands off her when she garged out in Mirror.
Coolest... the 11th century flashbacks in City of Stone, esp. the battle scenes.
Biggest surprise... Elisa getting shot, bleeding nearly dying, and being on crutches next ep. Wonderful, daring, thrilling!
Best line... "Mr. Big-Shot Time Traveler." Petros Xanatos, from Vows.

My stories:
Funniest... the Thanksgiving Day waterfight in Lead Me Not
Worrisome... the entire Jericho storyline, or the deaths of Elektra and Goliath in What Might Have Been
Romantic... Elisa and Goliath, in The Wedding and Breeding Season
Coolest... Elisa turning to stone in his arms at the end of Kittens
Biggest surprise... Jackal in Love Machine ... ; )
Best line... "Holy s***! Mars needs women!" from Passions

Sevarius Jr. > the book went out today; I can't help but wonder what slavering monstrosity plagues the mail carrier whose route includes Chez Sevarius ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:44:13 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

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Anonymous
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:38:08 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

DumlaoX - I was just reading 'The Scottish Play' and the illustration for the episode doesn't seem to be working. I checked both sites and it's not working at either one. Just wanted to bring it to your attention.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:28:26 PM
IP: 97.new-york-02.ny.dial-access.att.net

*The TV turns itself on, to reveal Fleur, Traveller, Clan Austin and the ST, all (except for Traveller) suffering from Vortex vertigo. Traveller, after apologising, looks around : Wait a minute, where are we? Fleur?
Fleur looks up, paler than usual, the the scene shifts to show a long beach and a sign. 'Welcome to Club Med.' A blonde woman in a hawaiian shirt is staring at them open-mouthed. Fleur looks around at the unconscious ST, and Clan Austin, who are all suffering various injuries. She grins. "Well done Traveller. Perfect place for a quick R&R before we head back to Austin to find out what was in that computer." With that, she turns to the blonde, who is opening her mouth to scream, and quickly says, "We're here for the science fiction convention." The blonde recovers, smiles a little fearfully, then says "Of course. This way."
"Science fiction convention?" Traveller asks, brow raised. Fleur shrugs "It was the best thing I could think of." As they pick up the storm troopers and walk off, Fleur turns to make the following comments.*

Whew! Finally I get here! The computers have been playing up again, so I'm writing this at a internet cafe, and my time is running out, so this will be _very_ short.
Christine> Eww. But thank-you. The more I learn, the more accurate my story will be. (I hope :))
SJ> Loved the story, even if it was a little sad. I'd love to hear how Angela went bad, though.
Robby> Congratulations Uncle!
Traveller> I've written two fics (well, a two parter), and I've just finished the first drafts of two more, and another one, but I'll have to practically rewrite it.
TGS> there's one thing that's been bugging me - will Madoc ever find out that Fox is Titania's daughter? Something tells me it will get messy if he does. :)
Spit. Five minutes left.
TTFN!

*The scene changes to show the next night, in the Club Med buffet bar, overlooking the pool. Everyone, fully recovered, is happily stuffing their faces. Fleur looks around. "Hey Traveller, where's CC?" At that moment, a dozen screaming people in bathers run into the room. Traveller grins and points to the pool. CC can just be seen swiming around. Fleur laughs. "Well, at least she's enjoying herself." A waiter approaches their table and gives Traveller a phone. It is Guido. After a quick conversation, Traveller turns to everyone. "We have to go back. Guido has found out what Marsh is really up to."
"What?" Fleur asks as the TV turns off. *
(your turn. >:) )

Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 08:24:13 PM
IP: myeah0.connect.com.au

Another Great Line -

Oberon - The Gathering Part 2 -

"Come my Queen. Never have I so badly desired DEPARTURE."
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Saturday, November 14, 1998 06:03:35 PM
IP: 197.new-york-02.ny.dial-access.att.net

Scenes survey

Funniest.. (Lex) I don't remember any explosions in Bambi..


Worrisome.. Equal tie between two:
Elisa's seeming death plunge from the dam in Hunter's Moon - as a viewer of both B5 and Beauty and the Beast, it wouldn't have been the first time a major character had been killed.
That Future Tense was 'really happening' (for about half the ep) and the series would continue with major characters gone (they killed Matt, Claw and Bronx is such an offhand way too).


Most Romantic or touching.. Elisa and Goliath in The Gathering pt1:
"The clan will always be there for you... I will always be there for you."
"I know.."
"If only we were.. "


Coolest.. Again more than one:
The bit in Her Brother's Keeper (I think) where Hyena is caught in the net and stands up, shredding the net with a knife in each hand in one fluid movement. Very anime-esque.
Elisa taking out Xanatos' goons in Awakenings. (Having missed part 1 the first time round, this first hooked me into the series).
Definitely Hunter's moon from the airship hitting the cathedral onwards - made even better by the fantastic animation in that ep.


Biggest Surprise.. Future Tense and The Gathering hinted pretty heavily at the revelations about Lex and Owen so I didn't find these that surprising. Probably that they actually killed the Magus.


Most Shocking.. The state of most of 'The Goliath Chronicles' :(
Most of Future Tense, the cliffhangers in City of Stone and Hunter's Moon.


Best lines.. (Where do you start?)
It' ALIVE, ALIVE (Xanatos)
I.. have... had.... ENOUGH (Oberon)
True immortality isn't about living forever... (Hudson to Xanatos)
It's my first real attempt at cliched villany - How am I doing? (Xanatos to Goliath)
I oughtta sue you for trademark infringement (Coyote to Coyote)


Best overall.. Hunter's Moon - loved it from start to fantastic conclusion.

MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKSaturday, November 14, 1998 05:21:27 PM
IP: ppp-634.telinco.net

Oh, no! More questions for the poll!

Best Fanfic Moment: Goliath & Elisa's wedding in Christine's "The Wedding" (I have a romantic streak a mile wide [quoth Proteus]).
Best Fanfic Character: I like Avery, too, but I LOVE Tara O'Shea's Rowan.
Best Fanfic Scene: Is "scene" different than "moment"? Well, in this case, let me say the final scene of "Reprisals III".

And, yet ANOTHER category:
"Best Fanfic Series". I have too many to list here, but "Daddy's Girl" and Christine Morgan's fics take top place.

Have a good weekend!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Saturday, November 14, 1998 05:14:13 PM
IP: ppp197.connect.ab.ca

BANDO> I wasn't attached to any squadron at Corpus; I was attached to the Naval Hospital there as a medic. And it was the best command I was stationed at: warm, sunny, with easy access to everything! :)

THE POLL: Okay, here's my take...

Funniest: Where Hudson had to get the disk in "Awakenings, and his line after he and Bronx escaped; "I wonder if this wee thing will be worth the aches I'll be feelin' taemorra?"

Worrisome: When Elisa flat-lined in "Deadly Force".

Romantic: No contest... "The Kiss!"

Coolest: The Appearance of the Ishimura Clan in "Bushido" (About time! There had to be Japanese Gargoyles!)

Biggest surprise: When Elisa turned into a Gargoyle in "The Mirror"; Wondered what she would look like with wings and digi-grade feet, and that satisfied my curiousity.

Best lines: "<zap!> Ouch!" - Brooklyn
"Hey, did you notice that?" - Lex
"Oh, no, I was too distracted from writhing
in agony!" - Brooklyn

"Enter Macbeth"

Thought I'd add these too:

Best Fanfic Momment: When Elektra agreed to be Broadway's mate in "The Pure & Profane". (Gotta love it when the comic relief-types get the girl! <grin>)

Best Fanfic Character: Avery Bishop from "Daddy's Girl"

Best Fanfic Scene: Where the Trio and Angela become Humans
in "Equality", tied with the three girls
see Brook in the same story.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrs@xoommail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, November 14, 1998 04:03:44 PM
IP: 207.170.232.67

Hmmm... interesting poll, I think I'll take a crack at it. *flexes fingers*

Biggest Surprise> That Owen was Puck.
Most Worrisome> Definitely when Elisa was falling from the dam... I too thought they were really going to kill her off.
Coolest> This one is too hard. I couldn't possibly narrow it down. Well... maybe when the Hunters' airship crashed into the cathedral.
Romantic> The moment Elisa and Goliath had in The Gathering Part 1, when Goliath dropped her off at the apartment.
Best Line> "The access code is... alone."

Did I miss any?

Later!
Entity
Saturday, November 14, 1998 03:18:26 PM
IP: ely-oh4-15.ix.netcom.com

Coyote (and anyone else who's interested)> Well, my high school's football team went 0 and 10 this season. The players took it all quite well, though. (They partied and went bowling.) Thanks for all your suggestions for cheering them up! :)

Gargoyles Poll>
Funniest: Hmm...Goliath with cream pie all over his face was pretty good, but I'd have to go with any funny Graeme & Ariana moment from TGS. I love those two. ;)
Most Worrisome: When Elisa fell off the dam in HM3, and they went to a commercial right as Goliath was screaming her name. I was really worried that she was actually dead, almost to the point where I was crying.
Romantic> The Mirror, Eye of the Beholder, and _especially_ the end of Hunter's Moon. ;)
Coolest> The entire Hunter's Moon trilogy. Especially the Kiss! Close second is Elisa beatin' up Demona in "High Noon," and third is Elisa beatin' up the commando in "Awakenings."
Biggest Surprise> Elisa actually kissing Goliath. I never thought _that_ would happen! ;)
Best Line> "I never realized, when you were human, how beautiful you are." Elisa: "You mean you thought I was ugly?" Big G: "Well, uhhh..." ;)

See ya'll around!
Ravyn Maza
Saturday, November 14, 1998 02:23:02 PM
IP: svm-ts3-27.c2i2.com

Thanks for reminding me! Add the following disclaimer to "Girl Talk":
The reference to "As above, down below" to Brooklyn's beak is pirated from Christine Morgans fanfic.

Some vikings in the chat room start chanting, "Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, lovely dragons..."

Hyena was also on A Different World. And Inspector Gadget as Penny. BTW... They are making a IG movie with Mather Broadrick as Gadget! May the demons have mercy on us all.

SJ: My fan-fic spawned your own? May the aforementioned demons have mercy on us all! :)

I have many fan-fics that I have started, and one of them has Anegla joining Demona. In almost all of my fics, Angela is messed up... every single one. Hmm... Makes me wonder if I do not like Angela as she was portrayed in the show. She had NO faults! She was too perfect. But I DID like her when she stood up to Goliath after Paris (Is Demona my mother?)

DumlaoX: They do have Styrofoam-like peanuts that are bio-degradeable. They are made of cornstarch, so they melt in water.

Traveler: Truth be told, I may have borrowed a helluva lot more from Alone than just the begining. <VEG>

Angela meeting HFS: Not quite sure yet.

Favorite Bad Guy: Future Tense Lex!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 12:02:42 PM
IP: dhcp184.visitus.net

*appears in a conflagration* hiyas. :)
*looks at the CR and blinks* o_O Is it ALWAYS this busy in here!? :p

Anyway, at Merlin Missy's behest I thought I'd pop in and make an appearance to see what was going on. :) So, I'm here. *wavies to the nice people*
*reads the CR* Oh, thanks to Traveller and MDY for the kind words and all. :D
Well, I'll prolly be lurking alot for now.
Oh yeah, click on my name for more of my art stuff. ;)
Damocles - [<--yes, this week's illustrator]
AustraliaSaturday, November 14, 1998 04:58:26 AM
IP: cheetah.bluep.com

**Jaden takes a long look at the new arrivals before answering. "Names Jaden, and your friend looked like she could use some help." Pausing for a brief second to catch his breath, "Look, I got to get going." He turns to make a post before he leaves.**

Kitainia-Thanks, but Tracker won't be catching up to Jaden for a few days so their isn't anything to worry about...yet.

Waterboy-A very funny movie. I wasn't too sure I wanted to see it but I'm glad I did. It was so funny I started crying.

Robby-Congrats...No hockey for that child.

Funniest- Brooklyn, Lex, and Broadway flying into a wall (Turf)
Worrisome- When the Ultra-pack was formed.
Romantic- Goliath and Elisa (Hunter's Moon)
Coolest- When everyone was turned to gargoyles (Mirror)
Biggest Surprise- I too will say that Owen turning into Puck was a little shocking
Best Line- I have dozens, but instead of writing them all, I'll chose one. Hudson: MMMMMM Banana-Cream (Revenge)

**"What's your hurry?" Kitainia calls to Jaden before he can take one step. Jaden turns and faces her with a troubled look. "Lets just say that your not the only one with problems." He tells her the whole story...the amnesia, the escape from the lab, being hunted by Tracker. "So as you can see," ending his story. "I really can't stay in one place too long."**

**One hundred miles away a not-so-looking human form leaves a small abandoned town. He begins transmitting a signal. "I have locked on to my preys location, at his current speed I should overtake him within three days." After several seconds Tracker could hear a sinister laugh. "Good. Very, very good."**
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Saturday, November 14, 1998 03:59:19 AM
IP: pm1-5.sma.silcom.com

Hey! I'm an uncle! "Uncle Robby"... That's gonna take some getting used to... I wonder if its a bad thing my first nephew was born on Friday the 13th? Long as my sister doesn't name him Jason I guess its okay...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Saturday, November 14, 1998 03:21:38 AM
IP: spider-wd021.proxy.aol.com

Sorry about the double post!

Just wanted to do the survey real quick:

Funniest moment: For me, anytime Vinnie's around. Or the Couple.
Worrisome: When Elisa fell of the dam...I thought they were killing her off, for real.
Romantic: Goliath. Elisa. Hunter's Moon. "The Kiss."
Coolest: I loved the Future Tense episode. Man, and I though my fic was dark....
Biggest Surprise: I've got two. 1)Owen was Puck. Totally unexpected! 2.)Lex was the evil genius behind Xanatopia in Future Tense. Man was he a baddie!
Best line: My fave was from City of Stone, pt. 4. Goliath is trying to talk Demona into giving them the password, and he says something like: "Your thirst for vengeance has only created more sorrow. End the cycle, Demona. Give us the code." Pretty heavy stuff for a kid's show!

Sevarius Jr.
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:46:00 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net

ARRRGH!!! I had a big long message set to post, and my friggin' computer hadda crash! I'm forgoing the RP for this evening, so I can get this up.

Traveler: That's for me to know and you to find out. I can't tell you yet, because of the way my writing style works. To make it brief, my writing style is best described as "randomized chaos:" I'm playing out the war in my head, and I don't know what will happen, but when it does I write it. Therefore, I don't know yet what Demona did to Lina's stone, or what she plans for the fragment of Rosanna's face, for that matter.

Zath: It's not as gruesome as it sounds.

Jaden: I share your opinion of complicated math; it gives me a throbbing migraine.

Movie Ticket Prices: I usually go to twilight shows ($3-$3.50, depending on the theater), although I'm not above spending $45 on movies (which I did once with my ex, going to three consecutive shows.)

Deuce, Todd: That all goes into the whole deal with the victor writing history. Since Canmore eventually was the king, he had the history books written to reflect MacBeth "murdering" his father. Look at the record of any war and you'll see it, even as recently as the Gulf War, which the US-led coalition of nations definitely won, but Saddam Hussein claimed victory in Iraq's ability to stand up to the rest of the world.

Coldstone: Looks like the only duty station both you and my mother were stationed at was Corpus Christi, only at different times (she was there in the early '70s.). I told her you had been there, and she asks what squadron you were in.

Kyryn: AAAIIGH!! Last I saw it was 5-1 Dallas. Unnnnhhhhh ...

Wilek: Believe me, I'd love to give myself more credit, but I really won't be able to do it until I actually get WCC out. And BTW, last I counted I had over 60 commissions, of which I've only completed 16.

Gargoyles moments:
Funniest: in "Turf," when the Trio runs into the brownstone while fighting over Angela, follwed in close second place by the end of "Jericho and the Amazon Women."
Worrisome: Shortly after Broadway shot Elisa.
Romantic: Since we're including fanfic, how about the entire second half of Spike's "Faith."
Coolest: I think *THE KISS* belongs here, IMHO.
Biggest surprise: Fox's parentage (Renard and Titania)
Best line: "It's not a good day to be a bad guy." Angela, in "Hunter's Moon 3."
Stand-Up-And-Cheer moment: When Broadway kissed Angela in "The Journey." I explained about this one in the other room a few weeks ago.
MSTie-able line: Everybody's going to hate me for this one, but it's in "Deadly Force:"
Broadway: "I was playing with the gun. Stupid of me. Hope I didn't break anything."
CTB: "Uhh, Broadway ... you just broke Elisa."

Kitainia: *LOL* Woo hoo! The first G:CM Creativity Demon!

**composes self**

Sorry. But I thought it was pretty cool. ;) And thanks for the heads-up on those movies. Myself, I'm waiting for three particular ones: "Enemy of the State," "Star Trek: Insurrection," and "Prince of Egypt."

SJ: Excellent. Simply excellent.

Robby: Don't be discouraged from posting your own stuff. God knows I wasn't, even though my stuff doesn't come *close* to matching Spike or Christine or Coldstone as far as length is concerned. I'm more into continuity (if you haven't figured it out yet).

Okay, that's all from me. I'll pick up the RP tomorrow night, by that time the tank'll have caught up with the rest of the party, I think.


Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:36:59 PM
IP: modem30.i-is.com

**Sevarius Jr. is still with Wilek, Frankie, etc, in Area 51.**

First off, I'd just like to give a big, whoppin' thank you to everybody who a)took the time to read my fic, and b)gave me some nice comments about it. I'm glad you like it...or it gave you chills, whichever. As for expanding it into a whole story...I don't know. Maybe later. I'm still kind of new at fan fiction, and I hope to write more, so maybe one day.

ISKWYDLS: I hated the first one. The only thing it had goin' for it was Jennifer and Buffy. But hey, JLH is in a wet t-shirt in this one? For how long? If it's the whole film, I might go....I know, that's a sleazy reason to go, but hey, I'm a guy!

Meet Joe Black: Is this a good date movie? I was going to take my girlfriend, but I hear it's like three hours long.

Dragons, dragons, dragons, oh no, dragons dragons dragons dragons please stop! dragons dragons dragons DRAGONS DRAGONS DRAGONS! Somebody remind me to make an antidote for that thing.

Final Hunt: A great fic. Definitely worth a read.

Good news for me! I'm gonna get my copy of Curse of the Shadow Books soon! Mrs. Morgan told me so herself!

Thailog: Hey! You can't treat my dad like that! Sure...okay I want to choke him myself sometimes....and yeah, he's a sociopathic geneticist with no ethics or morals...but he's family, so watch out!

**SJ turns to Wilek. "Oh great," he says. "Now the Empire is involved in this. That's just great! Those guys are such pains in the ass. That's it, our planet's trashed."
"You ever meet them before?"
"My dad once hosted the Intergalactic Geneticist Convention. Lots of mad scientists from all over the galaxy showed up at the ol' homestead. Whole thing got raided by the Imperials. And some Jedi bigshot. Black helmet, weird voice. Man, those Stormtroopers never flush...."*****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:33:18 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net

ATTENTION! If you submitted entries to our "Name The G99 Mascot" Contest, we'd appreciate if you would do so again. The computer mangled our incoming email but we've whacked it on the nose with a rolled newspaper and it's behaving much better now. Thanks!!
Spike - [gwtcontests@region3.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:23:07 PM
IP: dal-as2-1039.cmpu.net

Hmm, the interesting thing is, most people are picking the same bits. And there's a lot of them! I suppose it says something about how good the show was, and how good the new stuff is...

I had forgotten about Vinnie's "Revenge"... I have to put that one in with my funniest moment vote... And since the category was added, to stand up and cheer... Kingdom, and the entire final bit there. And Future Tense did have a LOT of good scenes too...

Hmm, Michael Dorn did the voice of the Minotaur on Hercules today... Gee, wonder what inspired Disney to get him to play THAT part?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:08:16 PM
IP: spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com

[Quick reply.]
Kitainia> Oh, DMW's still in the RP. But he's very, very ticked at Thailog. Heh heh heh.
Wilek Nereus
Friday, November 13, 1998 09:20:55 PM
IP: tnt-1-13-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

New image for me.... When I first started posting to the original room, I used the image of Xanatos in his Steel Clan armor. Sadly, that image isn't available here. So, I thought I'd pick another cool one, and as far as I know, no regulars have laid claim to this....

RANMA 1/2> Me... as a girl. I don't want to think about that.

Funniest... Many parts of "Equality" and Goliath getting shot by Vinnie
Worrisome... I agree w/ DumlaoX here: "Future Tense"
Romantic... Many parts of "The Mirror", esp. the end scene, "Eye of the Beholder"
Coolest... Much of "Future Tense"
Biggest surprise... Owen = Puck, Maddox = a psychotic fey SOB
Best line... "Virtue is its own reward; I thought you would know that by now." -- Owen
"Made me jump up and cheer" - Goliath and Elisa kissing
Saddest... Demona's attitude @ the end of "CoS"

RE: BAD REVIEWS FOR "I Still Know..."> *having a guy moment* Hey: Jennifer Love Hewitt in a wet shirt is reason enough to go see the movie. ;-)

SJ> *shudders and cringes* Ugh. That story was chilling; gave me goosebumps right up and down my arms. You should definitely continue w/ that train of thought.

BORG> This is my favorite Borg joke: "I am Dr. Laura of Borg. You're getting assimilated? Do you have a ring and a date?"

That's all folks....
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Friday, November 13, 1998 08:59:09 PM
IP: ppp111.connect.ab.ca

** The screen lights up. Gubio is now being surrounded by the punks, who are all laughing at him. Suddenly the fully transformed Mist leaps out from behind him, hisses loudly at the bad guys, and then fires into their crowd with her chain-gun cannon. The bad guys scream and run away, Mist cutting down all but Jose and Cutter, who manage to escape. Tyl laughs as the bullets go right through him. "Idiot!" he chuckles. "I'm not even really here!!" His hologram vanishes and Gubio sighs as he thanks Mist with a few comforting pats to various areas of her body. He then goes about the monumental task of putting the computer equipment Traveller got him back together.**

**The screen switches to Kitainia, who is having a hard time dealing with the Brits as well as Felix and Rodney. Suddenly the werewolf Jaden leaps in, slashing open the chest of Kate in his initial dive and taking out Ms. Chang with a vicious bite to the face. Kitainia quickly overcomes her initial surprise and snatches up a dropped bayonet. She throws and buries it in the head of Rudi, who also falls down dying. Kitainia then turns to make a post in the midst of her and Jaden's continuing battle.**

Jaden: Thanks for the aid. Nice entrance. We'll help you with the Tracker in return for it.

Waterboy Spoilers: It was a funny movie, Kathy Bates and Adam Sandler did great preformances. Could have had a few less running gags, though. :)

Meet Joe Black Spoilers: Saw it last night, good movie. Pitt and Hopkins both turn in excellent preformances, and Claire Forlani was both well-acted and beautiful. A bit long, but all the great scenes make it well worth that. There are also scenes you can make fun of, but any good movie has to have at least a few of those, in my opinion.

I Still Know... Spoilers: Just got back from that flick. My advice on it- Do NOT see this movie!!! It's even worse than the first one, they're all still idiots, the one redeeming feature is it gives you frequent glimpses of the beauty of Jennifer Love Hewitt (and of course, that's only a good point to guys like Doug and Jammer). Cheesiest slasher flick I have seen in quite a while, and this is coming from someone who loves horror movies. Sigh, I hate it when movies meet my expectations. Probably wouldn't have been any better even if he used a nail-gun or flame-thrower. Grrr...

Kyryn: Actually, the Taurus is Stephanie's, not Doug's. Doug doesn't even own a car, though if he wins the sweepstakes he got a jackpot drawing entry for today, he'll buy a Pathfinder.

SJ: Short but very emotional story. Glad it's not true for the actual universe.

Firestorm: Good story from you, too. I liked "Girl Talk" a lot. Wonder if Angela will ever run into HFS and Bubba. :)

"Final Hunt:" There are actually two stories on the archive named this, Mr. Glock's and Doug's. Both have their good points in both action and character. I liked Glock's better, personally, but that's mainly because it was the season finale that should have been for Gargoyles (as opposed to the final TGC ep). Very well-written story, wish he'd write more of them. Thanks for recommending it, Starsinger.

Borgified Morons: That was my creativity demon, glad it's being well-used so far. I saw this headline on a Star Trek magazine that said "Be a Borg: Assimiliate your friends and kill stuff." I thought to myself, why would anyone want to read a magazine that tells you how to do something like that? Then I instantly thought of Beavis and Butt-head, and so spawned Guod's assistants. :)

Alamo's wing structure: It was my mind that spawned him, so I'll answer this one. I never really noticed that about the bigger gargs having different wing structures than the smaller ones, I just assumed any wing structure could work with a gargoyle. Shows how much I know about flight and aerodynamics. :P Uh, let's just say Alamo has unusually strong muscles and bones in his wings, so they can support him. If there's no way that can happen, let's just change it to a Goliath type wing-structure instead. Sorry for the mistakes, thanks for pointing them out to me.

Wilek: Nice twist in the RP you've made there. So is DMV still going to be involved, or can we cross him off the list of enemies?

(The Survey)
Funniest Scenes: All the times Puck tricks Demona in "The Mirror." I also liked it when Vinnie hit Goliath with the cream pie bazooka.
Most Worrisome: Just about everything in "Future Tense," and when Madoc shouts "The Rising has begun!" at the end of "Reprisals."
Most Romantic: Goliath and Elisa's kiss in "Hunter's Moon" as well as their dance in "Eye of the Beholder," and the whole episodes of "Daylight" and "The Promise" for Brooklyn and Sata.
Coolest: Elisa's kicking ass in "Awakenings," "High Noon," and "The Mirror." Also any scene with Thailog or Madoc. For me, those two are the best bad guys. They always dominate scenes they're in with their twists of dialogue. Xanatos is also very good at this, as are Macbeth, Agony and Seth, Jericho, and Brooklyn. By virtue of their presence, these characters can all make a scene cool for me provided it's well-written.
Biggest Surprises: When Elisa kissed Goliath, that was unexpected but very welcome. Owen being Puck and the first Coyote robot come in second.
Best Lines: "I'm evil, I'm the monster, oh yes." -Madoc. "The moon was full, the nightbirds sang." -Sata. "How I enjoyed causing you grief." -Thailog. "I'm turning myself in because six monsters just told me to." -The "Reawakening" Robber (aka Jimmy Rodriguez, the name Doug has given him in his fanfic, the guy's role will be fully explained in a later story). "The access code is Alone." -Demona. "You're taking this WAY too personally!" -Xanatos. "Don't disappoint me." -also Xanatos. "The magic in this century is so..." "Cool?" "Exactly!" -Lexington and Brooklyn. And many more that don't come to mind right this second.
Most "jump up and cheer" scenes: Hudson's "I know how to wait" line in "Long Way to Morning," Elisa kissing Goliath, Goliath smashing the Praying Gargoyle, Fox hitting Oberon with a bolt of magic in "The Gathering," Demona attacking Thailog in "The Reckoning."

DumlaoX: Yeah for your cool dog Illegal!! And thanks for our fifth MP3 file.

Creativity Demon: Read Coyote's fanfic if you don't get this.
Demona: I am now going to take over the world and destroy all the humans!
Brooklyn: Oh yeah! You and what starfleet?
Demona: (grins evilly) This one. (All the Rokkans' ships appear behind her.)
Brooklyn: I had to ask. (gulps nervously)
Heh heh.

Heather: You RPG too? Glad to know you also subscribe to one of the world's best stress-relievers (in my opinion).

Okay, that's all for now, later!
** Kitainia turns back to the fight and manages to knee Rodney on the groin, then grab him and snap his neck. He's out of it. Jaden also claws to death the screaming Ms. Green the PE teacher. Doug and the others arrive then, responding to Kitainia's transmitted distress signal. The four Ravens hop out of the Taurus, Doug blasting McCormick dead with his shotgun, Stephanie running up and disemboweling Matt Evans, and Orion using a quick flame strike spell to burn up Charlotte. Felix panicks and runs like heck for his truck. Lathrop uses a minor quake spell to make the twenty-ton vehicle fall over on top of him just as he reaches it. (OUCHIE!!!) Johan is gunned down by Bandit's machine-gun turret, and Doug's second blast takes Chas out. Now it's just Asil and Guod. "Next time, fools!" Asil shouts, seeing the odds are overwhelming. She drops a smoke grenade and while the good guys scramble to find her and Guod, they escape through a teleportation device's portal back to Thailog. He will probably be very upset with them. Meantime, Kitainia turns to Doug and thanks him, as well as the others. "No problem," Doug says. "Who's the wolf-like creature?" Jaden transforms back to human form and looks at him. [You pick up from here, Jaden]**

**The screen changes to Gubio, who has finally reassembled the computer setup in his immense living room. He turns it on and sits down, only to find Mist (back in her normal cat form) sitting on top of and thus preventing him from using the keyboard. To be continued.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 08:30:36 PM
IP: hil-c45-028-vty184.as.wcom.net

Funniest... Last scene in 'Temptations' (When Brooklyn tells Lex that the bike blew up. His reaction, while understandable, just made me laugh.)

Worrisome... City of Stone Part 4 (When Macbeth was about to kill Demona, the first time I saw it, I thought that he might not listen to Goliath and go through with it.)

Romantic...The Mirror (The interaction between Goliath and Elisa while gliding around the city.)

Coolest... Future Tense (Just watch the episode. It has everything. War, sacrifice, betrayal, love, hate, a final battle, and even had lasting reprecussions once everything was over.)

Biggest Suprise... Hunter's Moon Part 1 (The final scene when Goliath says "On my daughter's life I swear I will hunt them down and I WILL KILL THEM." The first time I saw that my reactions was just undescribable. I couldn't wait to see the next part. I was shocked, suprised beyond belief. That scene alone, the realism in it, that scene proves why Gargoyles is the finest animated show I have ever seen.)

Best Line... There are a couple of line's that I enjoyed. In no specific order:

City of Stone Part 4 - "Revenge Demona is a dish best eaten cold. And I have waited 900 years for this meal."

Double Jeopardy - "We can still wipe the slate clean Thailog, start over." "Over my dead body! Or better yet, YOURS!"

Pendragon - "Your time has passed Arthur Pendragon! Macbeth, son of Findlaech, is the one true king."

Hunter's Moon Part 1 - "On my daughter's life, I swear that I will hunt them down, and I WILL KILL THEM."
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, November 13, 1998 08:23:40 PM
IP: 163.new-york-02.ny.dial-access.att.net

Just a quick post ! I'm RPG at the moment !
Funniest... "The Mirror"
Worrisome..."High Noon"
Romantic... " Hunter's Moon Part 3" ( Go Elisa and Goliath!)
Coolest... "Awakening ( all parts )"
Biggest surprise... Elisa gives the BIG kiss to Goliath !
Best line... " Ya ? You and what starfleet ?" -Brooklyn
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:52:20 PM
IP: 170-159-46.ipt.aol.com

I didn't want to say anything. I didn't want to spoil the surprise. Traveler, wait until Janurary. That's all I'm going to say. Janurary.
As for favorite scenes. I'm bias, but I think Griff taken on the drgons in Dragon's Wrath was the most exciting.
Most romantic - Elisa and Goliath in Eye of the Beholder. Followed closely by Broadway's dinner date with Angela at the Cathedral.
Most worrisome - Demona posed to destroy statue Elisa in City of Stone 3. (I couldn't think of anything else that day)
Most poignant - Goliath at the original closing scene of Vows. (I caught the symbolism with the clock tower and the flashback. Don't know why they cut in the USA version)
Most 'made me jump up and cheer' scene - When Hudson said 'I know how to wait' in Long Way to Morning.

That's all for now.
Rahsaan Footman - [rdfootman@csupomona.edu]
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:44:58 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89

Lee Ann A public hurrah for your graph pics of Goliath, Elisa and Angela. They can be used for needlepoint, cross stitch, beadwork (I'm thinking amulet pouches in delica beads.), or anything that needs or uses a graph. Again, WELL DONE!!!

Funniest... "The Mirror"
Worrisome... The ending of Deadly Force could have shown Broadway learning to use a gun responsibly not just giving them up.
Romantic...The dance scene from Eye of the Beholder
Coolest... Elisa's kicking ass in Awakening Part 4 I think.
Biggest surprise... Finding out Owen was Puck
Best line... I'll have to think on that one a little more.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Web.net]
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:40:20 PM
IP: proxy-361.public.rwc.webtv.net

>Lee Ann: Gargoyle costumes in the Butterick pattern book? >That'll be pretty cool. However, they'll
>have to come up with something pretty creative for the >wings

Regarding the costumes and Butterick Pattern Service, and the other pattern companies I posted earlier, if you can jot out a short note to them requesting Gargoyles costumes....we may have some success here. That's the impression I got from the letter I received from them. Hope everyone can write soon. If you can, please write. :) <hugs>


Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, LA, USA
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:15:29 PM
IP: as22-9.eatel.net

WILEK-- A TGS ep can sit in the finished bin for an undisclosed amount of time. It really depends on when it gets finished. Sometimes it'll sit there for weeks. Sometimes it'll sit there for only mere hours. All depends on when it first comes to us and how quickly we can pass it through edits.

MP3-- Give it up for Illegal. She came through again. Click my name for Loreanna McKennitt - The Mummer's Dance. Wilek, I think this was the mp3 you requested.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:11:48 PM
IP: pool0025-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

[Quick reply.]

Funniest... Most of "Fleeting Encounters"
Worrisome... Much of "Future Tense"
Romantic... End of "The Promise"
Coolest... Much of "Future Tense"
Biggest surprise... Finding out Owen was Puck
Best line... Can't think of one just now; there are lots I'm sure
Wilek Nereus
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:04:47 PM
IP: tnt-2-153-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

WILEK - I also noticed that case of the "two Alexanders" (Thailog and Xanatos's son), and even asked Greg Weisman about it; he confirmed that it was deliberate and not a coincidence. (They were both named "Alexander" after Alexander the Great, by the way, something that I'd also suspected).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:02:09 PM
IP: pn4-ppp-173.primary.net

(Jim Iza Noying walks in singing something. Badly. "Do a dose do and dance, like there's a possum in your pants... Yodelaaeey hoooh...) Lets see how long it takes for someone to identify THAT...

Hmm, not much to talk about right now...

Despite how deliriously good I thought Final Hunt was last night, that may have simply been the aftereffect of basically reading 7 hours of garg. fic in a row, plus a 29 hour period without sleep... Its still a VERY good story, but did have its problems... Ah well... Opinions change, sometimes quickly...

And to all who have tests or any other similarly nasty fates ahead of you, I feel your pain...

Zath- The bit between Thailog and Sevarious was funny...

Okay, survey time people! In the past I asked for favorite story, but now, I'm asking for favorite scenes! They can come from anywhere, the show, the TGS, or any of the fanfics going around.. And the favorite scene categories are...
Funniest...
Worrisome...
Romantic...
Coolest...
Biggest surprise...
Best line...
And anything else you can think of...
SPOILERS?
For me, the funniest scene goes to the TGS story "Equality" when the trio go to a certain resteraunt... Most worrisome scene goes to when Broadway shot Elisa in the first season, and they cut to a commercial... (Both cliffhangers in the Hunter's Moon trilogy come in a close second though.) Most romantic probably goes to that scene in "Possession" with Coldstone/Broadway and Desdemona/Angela embracing one last time. (The Beauty and the Beast scene between Goliath and Elisa comes in second.) Biggest surprise goes to "Leader of the Pack" when Coyote was first revealed to be a robot. I never saw that one coming the first time around! And coolest goes to when Owen stuck his arm into that cauldron and it became stone, and Xanatos just casually dismissed it. Sure it lost a lot of impact when Owen was later revelead to be Puck, but it was still great then... And best line goes to one I picked out earlier this week, Sata's "The moon shone, the nightbirds sang..." from The Scottish Play. There, those are my votes. Anyone else?
END SPOILERS?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 06:50:20 PM
IP: spider-we081.proxy.aol.com

[Wilek, Miriam, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, the Doom Commandos, TRC, the bikers, the five Dark Troopers, SJ, and Frankie are in the Area 51 research facility, in a gunfight with a lot of scuttlers. They're obviously losing. Suddenly, Wilek has an idea.] I wanted to save this for an emergency; I think this qualifies. [He takes out his Mindshatter card and reads it.] Everyone hold your ears! [Wilek throws the card into the midst of the scuttlers. It disappears and emits a piercing wail, causing the brains of the scuttlers to explode and coat the insides of their protective crystal domes with pureed brain goop.] Eww. I didn't know it was literal. [SJ: "I'm glad that's over. Hey Wilek, Han was over a hundred years old when he died, not forty or fifty--although, given his condition when he died, he could have lived to over 140. New Republic medical tech I guess."] Kewl. That reminds me--someone get into the computer and find out when Area 51 personnel captured Han and Chewie. I want to know where they've been and what they've been doing for the last half century.

Slightly off topic> I recently saw an interesting "Batman/Superman Adventures" hour. Roddy MacDowell, Malcom MacDowell, Cree Summers, and Micheal Dorn. Too kewl! Also, if I'm not mistaken, Laura San Giacomo, aka Fox Xanatos, starred in Stephen King's "The Stand".

You know, I just saw "Ill Met By Moonlight" and "Future Tense" for the first time last night. Anyone here ever notice that Oberon has fangs??? Vampiric-style fangs; I kid you not. Anyone wonder if the presumably also fanged Madoc had a little more involvement in the ancient Unseelie vampire project than originally suspected?

SJ> Fabulous story! You should develop it into a full-length fic. I wonder if you can work your own character into the story; if you can't cure the hereditary madness, then no one can.

Traveler> I dragons had to dragons dragons open my big dragons dragons mouth, didn't dragons dragons I. dragons dragons Traveler, dragons dragons what is wrong dragons with dragons dragons your brain dragons dragons dragons dragons?

Coyote> Insane? Oh, do give yourself more credit. <<Oh, and are you doing pics of all the WCC characters? ~Traveler>> Just how many WCC characters *are* you doing pics of?

Mercedes> Me as a girl? Eep...I'd probably look a lot like Desdemona, actually. Except really dark blue. You know, I wonder what would be the result if that happened to Demmy. She'd probably look a lot like Jericho. (Uh, does this thing give appropriate clothing as well? In case you haven't noticed (click my name to see Coyote's pic of me), I don't really wear anything above the waist, and of course that would be a problem if I were a girl...)

Doug> Kewl creativity demon. <<Would a web-wing structure be enough to support flight (okay, gliding) for a garg as big as Alamo sounds? ~Zath>> You know, I've been wondering that myself. Even if the web had enough surface area, wouldn't supporting a big garg's weight rip the wingsails? The way I see it, a big garg needs a Goliath-type bat wing structure in order to provide both aerodynamic lift and structural wing support. Note that all the heavier gargs (Goliath, Hudson, Broadway, Gabriel, and myself) have this structure. Medium-weight gargs (Brooklyn, Demona, Angela, Elisa during "The Mirror") can get away with having a glider wing, with no internal support spines, as this is more aerodynamic and the wing doesn't have as much weight to support. Lighter-weight gargs (Lexington, Pontiac, Cadillac) can have a web wing; it's the most aerodynamic configuration and there's less weight that it must support.

Jaden> Ultra-kewl villain.

Hey, I'm curious. After a TGS story is written, how long does it sit about until it premiers?

Todd, Prof. Deuce> Ack. Say, am I the only one to notice that Xanatos' son and Thailog's business alter ego have the same first name? How much of a coincidence is that?

[In the secret base...Dark Mage Wilek: "Let me get this straight, Thailog. You made a deal with the leader of the remnants of the Galactic Empire in which they supply you with weapons in exchange for letting them occupy Earth after we've taken over, and making it the capitol for their Second Imperium?" Thailog: "Of course. We need all the help we can get with this." DMW: "<grr> Haven't you ever read a single solitary Star Wars novel in your entire worthless life?! Do you have any idea what the blasted Empire thinks of non-humans?! Especially clones!! If you allow them onto Earth, they will slaughter every single gargoyle and Fey on the planet, and I know they're capable of it! It'll make "Future Tense" look like a Martha Stewart special!" T: "Why didn't you warn me?! You're the science fiction geek!" DMW: "You're thinking of the fellow I was cloned from. Besides, I COULD have warned you if you'd bothered to tell me your plans! Look what you've gotten us into: Even if we can keep the Empire from slicing our heads off, the New Republic will have our tails on a platter for killing their president's husband. <sigh> I begin to think that this arrangement wasn't as well thought out as all that." T: "What are you saying, Nereus?" DMW: "I'm saying that I no longer want to be a part of this. As of this moment, consider our partnership severed!" The Dark Mage folds his wings around himself and vanishes. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Friday, November 13, 1998 06:36:20 PM
IP: tnt-2-153-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**The CR room screen comes on showing Kyryn and Bandit on their motorcycle following Doug's Taurus. She turns and says**

Sevarius JR> Wow! That was a very moving and powerful scene. It would be interesting to see what happens further down that road.

I also read "Final Hunt". It has some excellent scenes, but I feel that it didn't grab me and drag me in the way some of the best writing does.

Coyote> Tonight! Luck to the best!

**Kyryn puts her attention back to the road as the screen goes dark**
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Friday, November 13, 1998 05:19:02 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Bando> I was stationed at RTC Great Lakes, then MTC Great Lakes when I started in 1988, then was stationed at NAS Corpus Christi until begining 1989, then was shipped to NAVHOSP Camp LeJeune where I stayed until i was Honorably Discharged for medical reasons. Otherwise, I was an Air Force Brat before then, stationed in Florida, Texas, South Carolina, and Oxfordshire, England.

Zath: Zathras is the name(s?) of a being(s?) that run the Great Machine that exists on the planet that the Babylon-5 station orbits. Zathras always speaks of himself(herself/itself?) in the third person, and has knowledge of time travel. Zathras was there during a very complicated series of events that bridged over and through a lot of the B-5 series over a couple of the seasons.

And I agree the "symetry" quote is one of Zathras' best.

Talk to you all later! Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrs@xoommail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, November 13, 1998 04:23:10 PM
IP: ppp-183.icehouse.net

Yes 'tis I again, in a monumental effort to try and keep the length of my posts down, I have returned.>:)

Peter's Law: The Creed of the Sociopathic Obsessive Compulsive

3.)Multiple projects lead to multiple successes.

>Mandi Ohlin- WHHOOO! $7.50 for a movie? That's insane! Is the theater even modern? I mean is it comparable to Regal? And the Waterboy was quite good.:)) One more thing, if your having trouble with Kinetic energy, just wait until your professor starts in with accelerated frames of motion. Although depending on the textbook it may be called something else, but it's in there.>:) *hehehehe*

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons,dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, and yet still unbelieveably, incredibaly unpredictabialy EVEN more dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, AND THE DRAGON KING!!! AHHH HA! HA! HA!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Friday, November 13, 1998 02:18:23 PM
IP: 207-86-124.ipt.aol.com

Yes!! Despite having a prof with a sense of humor (I never knew you could even MENTION Cyrano de Bergerac on a Physics exam), I think I passed!

A few people have asked me for the link to "The One Where the Gang Grows Wings" back when I mentioned Must See TV crossovers, so I've linked it below now that the author directories are back up.

And Kathy, thank you for the info. Now I know just what course of action to take. **pulls a cattle prod out of nowhere** Don't ask, folks, it's a long story. :)

**Mandi wanders out the door with cattle prod in hand. "Oh, Mark?"**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 02:09:26 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

DEUCE - I imagine that the "father's murderer" bit comes from the usual case of people learning the story of Macbeth from the play and that coloring their impressions of him.

Incidentally, two of Canmore's sons who succeeded him to the throne later on were named David and Alexander. Kind of scary, huh? (And I'm not making this up, either; it's a part of real Scottish history).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 13, 1998 12:17:00 PM
IP: pn3-ppp-99.primary.net

Here's a history lesson for y'all. It's also a clever little bit of "Canmore propaganda". :-) From The Edmonton Journal, Nov. 13, 1998:

"THIS DAY IN HISTORY, 1093 - Malcom Canmore, king of Scotland since 1058, dies. Three of his sons will follow him on the throne. Malcom became king by killing his father's murderer, Macbeth, as immortalized in William Shakespeare's play."

Interesting... this from a reputable source. Thoughts on this?
Prof. Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City fo Champions (depsite only TYING Ottawa last night), Alberta, Canada
Friday, November 13, 1998 10:17:14 AM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net

Mandi > Essentially our procedure works like this:
All stories are pre-determined by a Breakdowns Crew who figures out all the arcs for the season. Then after the season is finalized (this includes the "air date" order) they are assigned to writers who have a fixed amount of time to complete the assignment. The writers turn their work into Edits who read (and re-read) for grammer, spelling and continuity. After the stories are editted they are archived for airing at their proper time.
I hope that answers your question.
kathy - [kpogge@atl.mediaone.net]
Friday, November 13, 1998 08:57:58 AM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net

**Mandi comes in in a rush**

A few questions and comments before I go to breakfast and Physics (gulp):

Todd--Question about TGS procedure; when an author turns in a draft of an episode that may or may not be edited, you usually inform this person if you're going to put it up? And if it's a two or three parter, you'd normally wait until the author was done all three parts, right? If the answer's "yes", I now have a reason to go slap the coordinator of that other fan-written series I'm working on. (Which means that Garg fics will be set aside while I try to get part three of my episode done as fast as possible...grrr...)

Doug--Did I say that?? *scratches head* I don't remember it, but then again, I've been forgetting a LOT this week. Hmmm, I'll have to check out "Vision of the Future" anyway just to see how Zahn handles it....Thanks! As for the movies, I'm still marking up the ones I've missed. Movie prices in Frederick are exorbitant (7.50 for FSK Mall's iffy theater!) and the Regal Cinema at home is cheaper! So...was "The Waterboy" any good? I'm considering "Meet Joe Black" although I remember the last movie I saw with Hopkins and Pitt (I found it very hard not to make fun of certain parts of "Legends of the Fall").

Starsinger, SJ--Two more stories to add to my list of things to read.

DumlaoX--Calc midterm? **shudders** Wow, I feel better about my exam already. My sympathies.

Back on ancestry--I'm a quarter Italian, a quarter Swedish, a quarter Dutch/Irish, and a quarter everything, according to Mom (I'm assuming that's the absent grandfather). Not really impressive heritage, but having an Italian grandma who can cook like mine is a blessing coming home on break! :) Cooking aside, I love her to death. Anyway...

Ick, it's almost eight. Must be going. Have a great weekend, everyone!

**Mandi walks out, scribbling equations on her hand and muttering to herself. "Okay, so if this is center-of-mass, then the velocity's constant...did he EVER explain kinetic energy to us?"**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:56:28 AM
IP: 144.175.17.40

SEVARIUS JR. - Short story, but very chilling. I certainly feel sorry for Broadway.

ARTHUR AS A HALFLING - Well, that was unavoidable. It was obvious from the mere name (la Fay) that Morgana was a halfling, but Igraine worked much better as the fay parent than Gorlois.

Incidentally, in the traditional Arthurian legends, Gawain, who was Arthur and Morgana's nephew and Igraine's grandson, was said to have a magical gift that caused his strength to increase in the morning until noon and then revert to normal afterwards; I rather wonder if this might have been a case of "fay heritage" skipping a generation. (Gawain's mother Morgause, who was Igraine's daughter, seems to have been quite ordinary).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 13, 1998 07:14:14 AM
IP: pn9-ppp-211.primary.net

**The screen fades in. On a high tree branch Jaden can see a female gargoyle fighting against seemingly impossible odds. "This isn't my problem," he tries to tell himself. "The only thing this would do is complicate my life more than it already is." As he turns to leave he takes one look at the determined look on the gargoyles face, sighs, and joins in on the fight.**

Well I hope that this should improve the odds alittle...I don't want die on my first fight (wouldn't be any fun).

King Arthur>I figured that Arthur had fay-blood in him since he is Morgana's half-brother, but for some reason I can't remember why I thought he was only quarter-fay.

DumlaoX>Calculus midterm Good luck. Personally I really hate Calculus. Gives me a head-ache.

I just realized that I never described the villian that I'm bringing to RP. Well here he is-Mad scientist that made Jaden wants him back for a little dissection, so he released one of his experiments to bring Jaden back...It's called a Tracker (Cyborg/werewolf) Will use any and all means available to bring my character back. Always seems to know where Jaden is or is going to be. Very mean and very smart (in it's own way). So that's my villian. Like him?

**One quick leap, bone-chilling howl and he's in the middle of it. Using their momentary pause to his advantage, Jaden takes out two of the smaller ones before they even start to react. He turns to find the one he's supposed to be helping when he's hit over the back the back of the head with something very hard. "Great! Now the fun begins." he says to himself as the screen fades to black. To be continued.**
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Friday, November 13, 1998 03:44:40 AM
IP: pm1-21.sma.silcom.com

**(somewhere in Thailog's secret base) Guod has finally found Sevarius Sr. and brought him to Thailog. The Secret Base Janitor (an evil clone of the CR Janitor) has cleaned up the broken monitor and installed a new one, which Thailog is now watching. "I have a job for you, Sevarius. Are you familliar with the one those goody-goodies in the CR call Zath?"
"I'm not sure who you mean..." answers Sevarius, looking nervous. Thailog points to the monitor, which shows the live video feed from the CR. On the screen, Thailog Horror is sitting in a corner whith Kitty asleep in his lap while Zath catches up with the room.**

Doug> Would a web-wing structure be enough to support flight (okay, gliding) for a garg as big as Alamo sounds? <<That's from the sequel to Jurassic Park movie, yes! And from Rage Games' video game of it, too, though the movie was of course far better.>> Then the video game must have been pretty awful. I don't know about anyone else, but I thought that The Lost World was one of the worst movies I've ever seen and that it was based on an awful book that should never have been written. <<Is anybody else planning to go see I Still Know What You Did Last Summer this weekend besides me and Kitainia?>> Shouldn't they be calling it "I Know What You Did Summer Before Last"? : ) By the way, I like the creativity demon.

Babylon5> I've only ever seen a couple of episodes, and the ones that I did see were from the first season or two, so I have absolutely no idea about any of the current plots and/or characters. Who or what is Zathras? (curious for obvious reasons. My net-name has nothing to do with B-5)

Coyote> <<Various autmotive parts are flying out from under it, along with the Gearhead's legs>> That paints a rather grisly picture: )

Ranma 1/2> What would I look like as the opposite gender? Probably not that different. For a while, when she had her hair cut short, my mom looked enough like my uncle that they could have been a good casting choice for The Twelfth Night (assuming of course that either one of them liked Shakespeare enough to do it), and I tend to take after that side of the family.

DumlaoX> Thanks for looking. To tell the truth, I'm not exactly sure where we were at the time. It could have been in one of the suburbs of LA rather than offically in the city itself. Perhaps some day I'll be back there and then I can check it out for myself, but if the same amount of tims goes by between now and the next visit as this one and the one before then I won't get to California again until around 2013.

*voice like Bubba from Forrest Gump* Dragon soup, dragon stew, dragon fritters, dragon bisque, baked dragon, fried dragon, dragon on a stick, dragon fajitas, dragon pie, dragon pizza, dragon tar-tar, dragon-butter and jelly sandwich... Uh-oh, I think the virus is mutating!

**Thailog turns off the monitor. Sevarius fidgets. "Oh, that Zath. Yes, we've done some business in the past."
"Really?" Thailog raises an eyebrow ridge. "What type of business?"
"I, um, made some carnivorous slugs and a lawyer and, uh, stuff..."
"Well now I would like you to clone Zath." The evil grin returns to Thailog's face as he thinks about his plan, but Sevarius Sr. has lost his nervousness and now appears angry.
"Clone, clone, clone, that's all you ever have me do. I'm the greatest genetisist that ever lived and what do you have me working on, mass producing generic ninja clones. It's always 'oh Anton, I need five clones of so-and-so' or 'oh Anton, make me another batch of thugs.' I am capable of other things you know. I- *urk*"
Thailog grabs Severius by the throat and lifts him off the floor. "Get to work," he growls and then drops the mad scientist on the floor. Sevarius, realizing he probably went too far, scrambles out the door and heads for his lab.
(to be continued)**
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 02:20:45 AM
IP: ns8-12.viptx.net

"Hi, I'm Candy." Kurgan: "Of course you are."

Peter's Law: The Creed of the Sociopathic Obsessive Compulsive

2.) When given a choice-Take Both!

(Sorry, the begining of each post is much easier for both you and me.)

BTW we're up to about 300K now!

>Wilek Nereus- NNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Not the Wookie!!! Now that that's taken care of, on to other business. You think you're safe huh? *Scene Area 51: A vortex portal opens infront of Wilek and S.J., an armored fist pops out and drops a spray canister at their feet, then disapeares into the closing portal.* Wilek: What was that all about? S.J.: Um...Wilek that looks similar to the canisters the military uses for biological weapons. And didn't you just tell Traveler that his virus wouldn't affect us because we're nowhere near the CR? Wilek: Yea, why?...Uh oh. *the canisters top pops off and it spreads a light mist around the room.* TRAVEL...ONS, dragons, dragons, dragons.....

>Doug- Electronic Mail, *thinks for a second* yes I've heard rumors of this e-mail, as you put it. So it does exist. *jokingly* I shall do so next time with my comments on your stories. Also you and Kitainia are not the only ones going to see ISKWYDLS. A few of my friends and myself are going to see it as well. HOPEFULY, the sequel will prove to be better than the origional. I don't know, maybe seeing Scream and a few other recent ones, combined with the fact that the SCI-FI channel's October Movie Fest just ended a few weeks ago along with Halloween has spoiled me mith the classics, and other movies far superior to IKWYDLS. Although concerning your CD I'd have chosen a flame-thrower, but that's a matter of personal choice. Then again, high velocity nail gun does have a nice ring to it.>:) *hehehehe*

>Robby/Mr.Noying- *said in a booming voice* FOOLS! There is but one cure for said virus, and it lies within the TGS Staff's release date for the story that will give light to the Dragon's involvement in the TGS universe!!! You can try a cure or vaccine, but know this: whatever you come up with, its effects will only be temperary. My virus is magicaly designed to only become inert permantaly when the aforementioned conditions are met! So there! *TTTHHTPPPPTTT* *hehehehehahahahah*

>Final Hunt- I just read it. Pretty good, very good indeed. A must read for those of you looking for a quick gargs fix. Well written, although it does help to have read some of the other major universes that flesh out the back ground of this one to some extent.

>Sevarius Jr.- I just read yours. As a first try comming from a Creativity Demon, it was quite good. "Madness is in the blood." *HEHEHE* That line will be sticking to the back of my mind for the next few weeks at least.

>FireStorm- So you're making a series out of that premise. Interesting, at least you only borrowed the beginning from "Alone" (which was good, but dark. But that was point>:), it would have been a short fic cycle had you borrowed the ending as well.>:)) *hehehe*

>Cotoye the Bando- OK, what did Demona do to the Stone or Lina or both? Somehow I don't see Demona aquireing the "Avalon Stone" and then just leaving it on a desk. You're starting to get as bad as some of the TGS Staff with teasing us.>:) Oh, and are you doing pics of all the WCC characters? (Excluding the two or three huge Clans that were donated.)

>DumlaoX- <KING ARTHUR-- Waitaminute. Tell me again, how can Arthur be half-fey? I don't remember how this is possible.> Simple, Arthur and Morgana share the same mother who was full fey I believe. Re-read some of the Pendragon episodes from the first season. Good luck with that Calc. exam.

>Mercedes- Reguarding "A Moment of Rage", as I explained earlier, I had a Brain Fart (tm.). I had already read
Part 1, in fact I just checked and it's still archived on my HD. Can't wait until the sequal and the other stories are done.:) Oh yes, I do like anime, oh yes. I've just never gotten around to seriously watching it. Although the TOHO Godzilla movies are another matter. I just bought a copy of Godzilla vs. Gigan. That movie is almost never shown ANTWHERE on cable or for sale in Media Play, Here's Holloywood, etc. Some people may take that as a hint, but not me!>:) I'm also on the lookout for a copy of the origianal(sp?) version of Godzilla vs. King Kong. The U.S. version was altered so that Kong won. But we all know who REALLY won that fight.

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons,dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, and yet still unbelieveably, incredibaly EVEN more dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, AND THE DRAGON KING!!! AHHH HA! HA! HA!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Friday, November 13, 1998 01:53:01 AM
IP: 204-14-143.ipt.aol.com

Mercedes: I dunno ... I'm familiar with Ranma 1/2, and as far as I can tell it doesn't change Ranma's physique too much other than giving him wider hips and a 35D bustline ... but then again, that's just him. If it were up to me, I'd turn into some kind of supermodel, but then again I know my own luck and I'd probably turn out something like Janet Reno after she let herself go.

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, November 13, 1998 12:33:51 AM
IP: modem44.i-is.com

Coyote> No, no. Your body would change appropriately to being female. I.E. Not quite so heavily built, not nearly so butch. ;)

Robby> Cool.

Kitainia> *G* I can't wait to draw Mercedes as a guy. And some of my other characters, too. Keep an eye out...

Traveller> Re: Ranma: _I_ think it's worth buying as long as you like anime. It's funny as heck and pretty interesting.
If you're wearing armor, unless it leaks, I doubt you'd be affected. But, like you said it's just for fun, so why not?
Re:TGoD: *sigh* When is he going to get that back up? Anyway, I can send you copy of the story if you want me to. And when I finally finish Part two, I'll prolly be posting it on my page along with the rest and sending a notice out 'Net wide.
Mercedes - [chimura@geocities.com]
Friday, November 13, 1998 12:22:45 AM
IP: 155.42.26.102

Got a Calculus midterm tomorrow. Studying for it, of course, but had to post a few things here too.

ZATH-- Sorry, no such luck finding the place in question.

KING ARTHUR-- Waitaminute. Tell me again, how can Arthur be half-fey? I don't remember how this is possible.

FIRE STORM-- Well, I did hear once that popcorn can be used as biodegradable stuffing for packages. THought I'd give it a try. And look on the bright side. That's the popcorn left over from the advenced screening of "A Bug's Life" :P

DEUCE-- Actually, catching up to the current timeline is what we're doing now. Just give us enough episodes and before you know it, it'll be 1999 in the TGS timeline.

Let's all hope the GFW fanfic archive gets fixed soon so we can all read these new stories people keep coming up with (Actually, so YOU can read them. If I had the time or the permission, then I'd go do so :P )

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Friday, November 13, 1998 12:08:50 AM
IP: pool0022-max9.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

ALL SPOILER AHEAD. NOTHING ELSE, JUST SPOILERS AND THOUGHTS ON VARIOUS STORIES.

Hoo boy, I've been doing a lot of reading tonight...

Firestorm- Alone was very interesting. Kinda fun, if not depressing at the end. I liked it enough to read all the other stuff on your site, and was impressed. Humorous in some parts, and well... Not in some others. My personal fave was tho' was "Girl Talk". A few bits I didn't care for, but I loved the ending... Brooklyn IS my favorite... (Hah! Despite what has been said before, it seems the beak DOESN'T scare them off!) I'm waiting to see the next instalment. Hope you have Brook and Angie get together and stay that way, I'm sick of Broadway always getting Angela...

SJ- Yeah, that WAS short. But if its any indication of how good it was, I want to see more. I think you should expand on that little bit into a full scale story, it would be very interesting...

Coyote- I'm on episode 11 of your series at this point. I'll comment more when I've read the whole thing. But the fact that I've read that far says something about your talent...

And then, Final Hunt. This one, was very, VERY good. I liked it better than Requiem, Fleeting Encounters, Vows, I'm Sorry, The Sorceror's Apprentice, Equality, The Scottish Play, and any of my other favorites I haven't mentioned. Those other stories have all been able to make me laugh, cry, smile, stare at the screen begging to know what happens next, etc. etc. etc. Final Hunt put me through the full gamut of emotions, and then some. Every single character was touched on, so I even got a bit with Brooklyn in it. I wish I could write like this. I don't know what else to say. It was VERY good. Anyone who hasn't looked at it yet, stop reading the comment room NOW and check it out. This story gets my vote for best of '98, hands down. It is going to take something completley amazing and spectacular to change that vote, and it would probably have to star Brooklyn to help it... (Geez, I'm giving the story this much praise and I don't even like Goliath and Elisa that much! That should say something!) Again, the best gargs. story I have read... And I've read a lot of them by now... But then again, ask me tomarrow and my opinion might have faded... Ah well, for immediate value, it deserves the praise I'm giving it...

END SPOILERS

Oh man, now I'm beggining to think I SHOULDN'T put my stuff up when I make a web page. The entire saga put together isn't as good as some of that...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:16:46 PM
IP: spider-wb043.proxy.aol.com

**The screen lights up to reveal the tank still in the truck stop parking lot. Keith and the Gearhead are both under the tank, double-checking each other's handiwork. Coyote, Jason and Buick are watching Doug and the rest of the Ravens leave.**

Hey, guys. Well, we've managed to salvage the tank's engine, I think ...

<"Hey, what's that?">

**Coyote narrows his eyes, seeing Borgis and Butt-Borg watching Doug's Taurus from the truck-stop roof. Coyote turns to Jason.">

Let's try a Number 4 on them.

<"Roger."> **Jason slaps the crossbow in Coyote's hands. Coyote levels the weapon toward the two Borg morons, letting fly with an arrow. The arrow splits down the middle, striking the two Borg morons square in the ... ahem ...**

That'll take them out of the action for a while. Hmm ... I feel surprisingly cleansed. Oh well, here's some replies.

Mercedes: I didn't reply to this last night for some reason, but I'm having a really hard time picturing myself as a woman (picturing a 300 lb. woman that could probably bench-press a Honda is making me nauseous, anyway ... ;).

Kyryn: Omen? I really don't think so ... I like the Coyotes' name and their jerseys, but I don't like the team itself ... something about Keith Tkachuk that strikes me wrong ...

T. J. Veil: I really didn't get a chance to dig into that as far as I'd like to, but in future installments the relationship between Lina and Rain will be a lot different. I tried to hint at that within the current one, but evidently I didn't do it very well (Lina: "I can still resent him, right?" She's not very happy with him.).

Merlin Missy: Kewl! Is the uploading back online yet? (not like I can use it, but I know of some authors whose recent stuff I haven't been able to read yet (Skydancer, for one).)

AIRNTKIL ...: I don't know why, but I've had three for a Mad Max list cycling through my head (all from the third one: "Two men enter, one man leaves;" "Break a deal, face the wheel;" and "Don't screw with the Man Who Keeps Mr. Dead In His Pocket."). Figured I ought to share that.

Coldstone: Regarding last night's thing about TGS writing positions ... that gives me a chance to show how I can turn an insane premise into something coherent (read: "When Clans Collide!").

SJ: I have Irish in me too. And it takes a *lot* to get me drunk, buddy ...

Lee Ann: Gargoyle costumes in the Butterick pattern book? That'll be pretty cool. However, they'll have to come up with something pretty creative for the wings (I'm trying to put together a garg costume and right now it looks like the main arms of the wings are going to have wooden brackets from two giant Japanese fans as their framework.).

Wilek: Right thought, wrong manifold. The manifold that the DeLorean blew in BTTF3 was the fuel injection manifold (blown out of the tailpipe after they tried to use 120 proof whiskey as a fuel alternative).

Scottish Ancestries: I found my grandmother's clans and tartans book. The following is a fairly full list of clans' mottos for those families I could find in the book which have been mentioned in here. I'll put it by each poster.

Cyrway: Clark; ancestry with Cameron ("Unite"), MacIntosh and Macpherson ("Touch not the cat without a glove")
Malcolm; direct ("God is our refuge")
Doug: Bruce; direct ("We have been")
Deuce: Robertson; direct ("Glory is the reward of valour")
Green Baron: Logan; direct ("This is the valour of my ancestors")
Forsyth: part of a family, probably not allied with any clan.

Those are all the ones I could find. (Mary Flanders: if you can send me a Scottish ancestor's name, I can find the clan and motto.)

Doug: Dude! Sick! (actually, I must confess that I got some guilty pleasure out of it ... didn't really like IKWYDLS because the bit of it I did see, every single character was a total and complete idiot (of course, that's just MPO.))

***RP!!***

We've got to warn Doug. Is the tank ready to go?

<"Just about, boss. Fire it up!">

**Coyote hits the ignition. Sure enough, the tank whines into action.**

Okay, everybody in! Gearhead, make room for Keith, we're giving him a lift.

**The whole party piles into the tank and speeds back down the road, following Doug and company. Back at the truck stop, though, Borgis and Butt-Borg are still watching, albeit writhing in ultimate pain, as the screen winks off.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:09:52 PM
IP: modem44.i-is.com

Coyote> Thanks! ;)

Theresa> Absolutely wonderful story that you found there! It was really great for me, since I'm a hopeless romantic, and it was a terrific story. Everyone, clicky on Starsinger's name link to read a great story! :)

Sevarius Jr.> Wow. Though it was short, I thought your story was awfully powerful and very thought-provoking. Nice work! Everyone, clicky on SJ's name link to read another story! :)
Ravyn Maza
Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:30:00 PM
IP: svm-ts4-18.c2i2.com

****WARNING: BLATANT PLUGS ALERT. YOU HAD BETTER READ THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT (TO ME AT LEAST). I'LL BE VERY UPSET IF YOU DON'T CONTINUE READING, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE MAN WHO CAN MUTATE YOU INTO A GERBIL.****

I've actually written a piece of fiction. Yep. Me. I had an idea in my brain, and it just leaked out and clubbed me with my keyboard until I agreed to write it down. So I did.

The fic's called "Birthright." I read Fire Storm's story "Alone", and it got me thinking. So I married that fic's concept (i.e. Angie has _serious_ problems) with the thoughts we've all had about 'what if Angela became more like Demona', and my fic was born.

I'll warn you, it ain't a happy tale. It's kinda depressing, actually. But it's reeeeeeeal short, so please, give it a read! Tell me what you think. I can take any criticsm (or praise! Lots of praise!) you wanna throw my way, but please be kind. This is technically my first fic, so keep that in mind. After all, I'm not as experienced or talented as Mr. Weisman, Mrs. Morgan, [Mr. Zeigler ;) ], etc.....yet.

****OKAY, I HOPE YOU READ THE ABOVE. NOW GO YE FORTH, AND READ MY FIC. SO COMMANDETH THE SEVARIUS, THY SEVARIUS. SAY, DOES THIS QUALIFY FOR A BLAISIM? I THINK THAT MAY BE MY FIRST!****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:07:29 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net

OK people. It's my turn to suggest a story to read. Paul Glock wrote a very good story entitled
Final Hunt. Just click and you should have access to it. I like it. I would really like to hear what others think about it.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 09:03:19 PM
IP: proxy-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net

*comes back in*

Oh yeah! One of my ancestors was a knight of Scotland! But he died in battle the day after he was knighted. Sucks doesn't it?

*creeps out again*
Mary
Thursday, November 12, 1998 08:36:51 PM
IP: stk-ts2-h1-38-78.ispmodems.net

*Creeps in*

**EPISODE SPOILERS**
Sunday night I had finished writing a four-page essay (I know what you're thinking: whoopee-doo) on Macbeth. Reading the story was not the best timing for me. I think I should have waited a few days. But the episode was wonderful. I felt so sad when Grouch appeared and told her sad tale. For some odd reason the portret music from Titanic kept popping into my head. I feel like argueing with my teacher about how Macbeth REALLY went.
**END OF EPISODE SPOILERS**

BTW, I am part Scottish, English, German, Swiss, French, Celtic (from Scotland) and Cherokee. But those are what I know so far. But there are probably other people here who have more diverse ancestory than me.

Bis dann! (til later!)

*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Thursday, November 12, 1998 08:34:07 PM
IP: stk-ts2-h1-38-78.ispmodems.net

(Jim Iza Noying looks at the half dozen clones of himself standing before him. Thailog turns to him, and speaks. "Thank you Mr. Noying, that will be all.")

Is it my imagination, or has this room added another like, 100 K in comments since yesterday?

Babylon 5- I'm under the impression I should be watching this. I've been a DS9 fan for some time, which is why I never paid attention to B5...

Ancestry- I'm half French, half English. I'm actually, very DISTANTLY related to Queen Elizabeth. If there's some huge disaster and thousands die, I'm next in line for the throne...

Jaden- Silverbolt is kinda gargoylish. And that new character Depth Charge is also kinda gargoylish.

Coldstone-Gotta wait till season 3 to be a writer huh? Okay... That'll give me a chance to finish my stuff...

Mercedes- I've seen some Ranma 1/2... Interesting show...

Coyote- My 3 best stories? Well, generally my best is whatever I'm working on at the time, and only a few people have read my stuff, so I can't give a public opinion...
By the way, I'm rooting for the same team you are.

Deuce- Pizza? Did someone say pizza? My fave!

Fire Storm- I'll read "Alone" in a minute...

Traveler- I have already discovered a cure for the latest version of your virus. (Opens up a bottle of blue liquid, and throws it to the floor.) I have a method that allows me to create a cure to your virus when you... Snogard, snogard, snogard, snogard, snogard, snogard... Uh oh, I don't think this is working quite right...

TJ Veil- Gargs/Darkwing Duck? Hoo boy... That, I GOTTA see...

("What, that's it?" Jim questions Thailog. "Yes. I'm busy dealing with all the other stuff I'm doing at the moment. I'm going to implement this plan later. Can you imagine, six evil versions of you running rampant?" Jim nods. "That's a scary thought.")
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 08:27:03 PM
IP: spider-te013.proxy.aol.com

**Doug, Stephanie, Lathrop, and Orion hop into the Ford Taurus. Doug leans his head out the window to say the following.**

Just a couple of quick replies:

Wilek: Okay, fine, good. I'm not worried. I know you're a good writer, I didn't think you would mess with their characters but I had to make sure. Actually, now that I think about it, it does add an interesting twist that Thailog has started a war with the New Republic. Guess we'll have to bring Kitainia's Wookie pal Mowen into this. Two problems with Han appearing here after all the books are over, he'd be like early fifties at death, not thirties or forties as you have him. That, plus the fifty-some years in between the crash and now, would mean he'd probably die before Thailog could have killed him. Not Chewie, Wookies live up to 800 years, but Han would definitely be gone long before Thailog was even cloned. I think you need to fix this possible problem as soon as you can. Also account for what Han and Chewie did here in the years between the crash and now, that could be important. Just a few tips, nothing major.

Mandi: I think you were the one who read Timothy Zahn's Star Wars novels and wanted Luke and Mara to get together. You'll be glad to know that by the end of the latest Star Wars novel by Zahn ("Vision of the Future"), they are kissing, proclaiming love, planning to get married, you get the idea. I'm happy they're together, too, of course. :) Just thought you might be interested to hear this.

Merlin: The author page is back up, so's the server. Thanks for telling us about it. I hear this weekend Chris will have the submission forms back up once again, too. I hope it's a true rumor.

Is anybody else planning to go see I Still Know What You Did Last Summer this weekend besides me and Kitainia? I have this creativity demon about it that goes as follows (If you don't get it, you haven't seen the movie's previews):
Psychiatrist- "Repeat after me, there is no man with a hook."
Jennifer Love Hewitt's character: "There is no man with a hook."
Evil Psycho Fisherman: (suddenly breaks in) That's right! I have graduated to a high-velocity nail gun!! (plugs the psychiatrist and JLH's character while maniacally laughing.)
Any comments on this latest product of my twisted idea vat?

Read in today's paper that they're making a Bullwinkle and Rocky movie. The moose and squirrel will be CGI, Jason Alexander is playing Boris, and Robert de Niro is going to do Fearless Leader. I'm looking forward to seeing all of them, especially de Niro. Fitting that one of the two actors I'd like to do Agony if my fanfic ever got televised is playing one of the many inspirations for him. :)

Green Baron: Thanks for the offer, but Kitainia and I have set up this capture thing to allow Jaden to work his character's way into the RP, and because of that we please request that only he save her. (We're going to pick up them both after the fact.) Why not send the Scouts to help Gubio? I have a feeling he'll be needing it more soon. You can even have them take out some of the random thugs at his house while you're at it (but please not the leaders, we have plans for Tyl, Jose, and Cutter). Thanks for bringing in the Orange Duke, but let's just say the jerks from the Taipei British School are wearing his patch. Asil would die before she took orders from any male, especially a human one (Thailog's the exception, she respects his great intelligence and potential for villiany).

Kyryn: You and Bandit are with us? Good! Let's be off then. Later everyone!
**Doug slams the Taurus's door and they take off, Kyryn and Bandit following on the motorcycle. On a hill overlooking the truck stop, two young men covered with Borg implants watch them go. One raises his hand and talks into a Borg-implanted communicator. "Uh, Master Guod," he says, "a couple of vehicles just left the truck stop. Shall we, uh, follow and ass-im-uh-late them?" "Heh heh," chuckles the other. "You said ass." "No," comes back Guod. "They'll never find us. Continue spying on the others." "Uh, like roger," laughs Borgis. "Uh, okay," adds Butt-Borg. The two turn their telescopic eyes back to the truck stop.**

**The screen changes to show Gubio and Mist appearing outside his house. They spot the crushed body of the burglar, and the gang members, who have just finished loading the pickup truck and are about to drive away. Gubio draws his .45 and points it at the gang members as Mist begins transforming. "Hands up!" he orders them. "Drop those computers!" "Boss," Jose whines, "he's got a gun." "You idiots," barks Tyl the evil hacker. "We've all got guns!!" He pulls out his and the gang members do likewise. Gubio gets a huge oh-s&*t look on his face before the screen goes blank. To be continued.**
Doug
Thursday, November 12, 1998 07:51:33 PM
IP: hil-qbu-ppi-vty20.as.wcom.net

SEVARIUS JR> Care fer a drinkin' CONTEST? I'm part Irish, too! "An Irishman is never drunk as long as he can hold onto one blade of grass and not fall off the face of the earth."

Basically, I'm Irish and German on my dad's side, and Scottish on my mom's. :-) Can't get much better than that IMO.

GREN BARON> I know many actors — few of them are that superstitous. Wait: the curse was lifted last year. Heh-heh. Which brings up another point:

TGS STAFF> When will TGS catch up to our universe? I know the reason for the lag (TGS didn't start until a while after TOS (The Original Series) ended, but when will it be fixed?

That's all for tonight. Now, time for supper: pizza!

** leaves, drooling **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, November 12, 1998 07:19:56 PM
IP: ppp130.connect.ab.ca

Guys....I just had to tell you this. This is too funny.

On a local station here at my hometown (that being Washington, D.C.), they're playing a commercial....a CONDOM commercial. What the hell does that have to do with anything, you ask?

It's Hyena doing the commercial. You get to hear Cree Summers talk all sexy as she swears that Durex condoms are the best. Ever time I hear it, I fall off my chair laughin'.

Oh, and by the way, can anybody tell me how long it took them to get Christine's book? I sent for it 2 weeks ago...and I kind of need it now. It's urgent. Can you give me an idea of when it might come?
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 07:19:46 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net

[Everyone is gathered around those bodies in the Area 51 bio-research lab.] Man...how did this...<sigh>. How did the Falcon crash on Earth? If Thailog is planning to give it a cloaking device... ["Mr. Nereus?"] Yeah Miriam? ["When we clear out this base, I'm going to have my organization contact the New Republic. The least we can do for these two is to give them a proper burial on Coruscant, befitting of the heroism they displayed during their lives."] You're right. [SJ: "Wilek, the crash isn't what killed them. I've found toxins in their blood. They were murdered."] What...?! <grr> Everyone, this is now *personal*. Pulling the kind of stunts that Thailog has already done is one thing, but killing two of the galaxy's finest heroes...we will end this. (BTW, Doug, I understand your concerns about this. If, by "tarnishing him and Chewie somehow", you mean I may resurrect them or introduce clones of them or do something similarly idiotic, you have no need to worry. I only did this so as to make this story a little more emotional and dramatic, and offer yet another theory as to what crashed at Roswell; this is the last we'll hear of these characters in the RP. If you're still bothered, it could always be a case of mistaken identity. Oh, BTW, this takes place *after* all the novels and such. If you'd like, I can put this on hold until I get your response.)

Traveler> We're safe from your virus here in Area 51. SJ, could you use this facility to create a vaccine?

Lee Ann> Kewl, they're seriously considering Gargs costumes. You know, I've always thought that the one Goliath kids' costume with the inflatable wings really stunk; I'm glad to hear that better ones may be in the works.

The Lost World quote> Actually, I first saw it in a list of bizarre game quotes at www.classicgaming.com/ragegames; it was listed as being written on the side of the arcade cabinet.

Merlin Missy> Hey, the authors' listings are back up? Too kewl; I've been wondering when we'd have access to the stories again! Thanks!

[Scuttlers are heard skittering down the corridor toward the facility.] Oh, no! [Everyone takes up defensive positions.]
[Meanwhile, in the secret headquarters of the conspiracy... Dark Mage Wilek: "That's what crashed at Roswell?! Thailog, how long have you known of this?" Thailog: "Long enough." DMW: "Were they alive when you took the base?" T: "What's it to you? Why should you care?!" DMW: "Our target is Earth, Thailog. I didn't want alien governments mixed up in this, especially not the New Republic. Did you or didn't you kill them?" T: "Alright, I did. So?" DMW: "<grr> You blithering fool! If he's who he looks like, he was the husband of the Republic's president! You may have started a blasted WAR!"] [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, November 12, 1998 07:15:36 PM
IP: tnt-1-190-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**It is a small classroom with about 15 students studying Supply-side Economics and Jack Kemp. One of the girls gets a message on her laptop. It is Rev. Attila with an urgent message.

"Anna,
Kitainia has been captured by Asil. It also appears that Asil and the other kidnappers all had some orange symbol on their clothes. This could be the work of the Orange Duke, a truly despicable individula and the Green Baron's arch-nemesis. Contact the other girls. It's time to do some afterschool work :)
-Attila"**

It appears help will be on the way.

Scottish ancestry> Not to toot my own horn, but I am descended from two lines of Scottish Barons, though both Logan and Forsyth Barons lost their rank. The Logans were involved in the Gowire Conspiracy, so Baron Logan of Restalrig was executed by King James VI and I. A descendant, Colonel George Logan, was stationed at Charlestown, South Carolina in 1690 by King George I, so they returned to teh good graces of the Monarchy, even though they turned their backs on their Scottish ancestry. The Forsyths were Barons of Dykes until the 1630s, though I don't know why. it may have just gone to a different line. Then, the Forsyths became Merchants after their Baronial stint. The Forsyths are also linked to MacBeth as some distant Uncle and Osbert DeForsyth was awarded the Forsyth Coat of Arms, motto, and Nydrie Castle for his help in Bannochburn. My Clan tartan and newer Coat of arms is available on my website. My family still uses the old crest, which went out of style within the last 300 years I imagine.

As for my otehr ancestors, I am also descended from soem of the eary French families of Louisiana, including the first native born Governor of the American State of Louisiana. Currently, the Villere's own a brokerage firm and one of my Villere cousins is mayor of a city 100 miles North of New Orleans.

On my mother's side, she is 3/4 Irish and a quarter German. Do not think you will ever win an argument with her :) Her family is also from New York though most of them have moved down to Florida.

Le Ann> Welcome. It's always good to meet a fellow Louisiana. Union, Justice, Coruption :)

Merlin Missy> I wonder what your Professor would think of Gargoyles. I agree that Shakespeare never had an original idea, but then again, he is very well known, and the original authors of all the tales are not so well known, so originality dosen't count for much. Just ask any television writer :)

Firestorm> Attila gave me your e-mail. BTW, you sent it to his address :)

**Now all five girls are gathered with Rev. Attila. If you look closesly, it's the Catholic schoolgirl scouts. They're ready to save Kitainia after they finish their homework for Sr. Bubba**

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Thursday, November 12, 1998 05:08:00 PM
IP: 141.164.133.112

Absalom> As Merlin Missy suggested, I read 'Absalom' which I had in my computer but never read. It was *great*. The best Xanatos-Fox-Alex fanfic I've ever read, the same way "I'm sorry" is the best Demona-Elisa fanfic.

Fanfic archive> I'm glad it's back up, atleast in this way. Now I will be able to read "Tomorrow and Tomorrow" as Todd suggested.

Btw, last time, before the fanfic archive went down, there was a problem with the story updates: For example though Jewel Faulkner made an update to her story 'Turandot', the link in the story updates led to the wrong URL and had to be manually corrected for me to find the new version, while the main author archive still holds the old version of her story. Has this been noticed? And will it be corrected?

**** COMMENTS ON "THE SCOTTISH PLAY" ****

I said before that I can't find anything negative to say about this story. Well... I was correct. One can always count on Merlin Missy to bring an excellent character-driven story.

Various thoughts and comments:

When I first saw Macbeth's reaction to the play I thought I'd be annoyed with the story. My exact thoughts were: "No, not that recurring Macbeth-hates-Shakespeare joke again." I thought it had been a lame joke that went nowhere and added nothing to the character. When I understood though, that his story would *deal* with Macbeth's aversion to the play, would look into it and at the end resolve it, I loved it. As recurring joke it's boring but as a character study it's fascinating and I can't congratulate the TGS staff enough for going with the latter option.

The twist in the story was excellent! I never expected Gruoch to be the 'curse'. I think that this episode also helped bring the closure to Gruoch's character that we'd never gotten from the TV show. (the same way we'd never gotten closure to Mary and Finella's character) I was prepared to hate this twist as well, but once again I ended up loving it.

I loved the games of Graeme and Ariana as well as their parents' reaction to them. "Remind me why we had children." Heh, heh! Sata's response was quite appropriate: "The moon shone, the nightingales sang..." All these are fun, affectionate situations that are necessary if TGS is not to fall into constant Unseelie gloom and ominousness. And they are a joy to read.

The theft idea makes excellent sense. Removing human magic from the game is something both very reasonable for Madoc to do, and in story terms, this plot helps to move forward the Unseelie War storyline without having to resort to battles and other meaningless stuff. I'm also glad that it ended up not being connected to the A-plot. I don't want the Unseelie War drowing out every other storyline. I also liked that Missy didn't break or bend the rules by finding out some method where Fays could use mortal magic. That would be... cheating. But now, as I said, it's very reasonable.

Why the specific dates for the thefts? Do they have some magical signifigance or something?

Equally importantly I loved seeing Elisa Maza doing detective stuff, and being the lead character (along with Macbeth). I don't remember if we'd ever seen her do that recently, and in my latest review I had complained that she seemed stagnated. Now she's again the Elisa Maza we all now and love. Kudos Missy!

Weird Sisters: Whose side are they on, anyway? This must have been one of their most mysterious appearances yet. Were they condemning Gruoch's ghost to this torture (as Macbeth, Goliath and Elisa seemed to believe) or were they just explaining the situation to her, and thus in the end helped her discover how to escape? My guess is that it's the latter since they would have no reason to want Gruoch harmed. If so, the Weird Sisters are now wrongly blamed for the situation, when they actually helped resolve it.

I think the Angela-learns-magic storyline has a great lot of potential. I also *loved* her simple response: "Nothing. Just happiness."

I was originally going to complain about Joanna. Then I understood I didn't mind her at all and (like Liz but unlike various other recurring characters) I'd love to see her again. A good character, that I'd like to see developed.

Are actors so superstitious in real life? Other than Joanna I believe there was noone in the story that wasn't afraid of the curse.

Some ideas in the story also had a vaguely discworldish style, specifically the part about plays having a magic of their own. Was this a deliberate reference to Terry Pratchett?

I liked the tension between Macbeth and Goliath. Though Macbeth is definitely one of the good guys Goliath and co have more often had him as an adversary rather than an ally. It's reasonable that not all of that would have gone away.

The timedancer reference: Gruoch referred to a lone gargoyle, so it can't have been in the future Timedancer stories. But did it have any significance other than that? Did Brooklyn have anything to do around there, or did he just appear for a couple hours and then vanish?

And finally let me say I absolutely *adored* the very cinematic final sequence. Both the spirits playing at the end, now released from the torment, and the way Elisa imagines the two performances overlapping. I could truly imagine this appearing on the series.

To synopsize: One of the best TGS stories yet, and one which in the way the original series did, combines character development with plot progression. Kudos to Merlin Missy and all the people involved.

**** END COMMENTS ****
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 03:56:24 PM
IP: athe530-e054.otenet.gr

<A rat flying a miniature Harrier VTOL, flies in and drops a letter from Kyryn on the table>

I just had an evil creativity demon> Brooklyn appears on B5 in a flash of light. Zathras, standing nearby looks up. "Not the one, not the one," he is heard muttering as Brooklyn disappears.

Lee Ann> Kewl. Thanks for the addys. I will get my letters off to them right away.

Doug> Kyryn's going with you. If you need stats for her and Bandit, let me know and I'll e-mail them to you.

**The screen lights up. Kyryn looks at Doug."I'm going with you."She runs off to her motorcycle with Bandit following.
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, November 12, 1998 03:17:47 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Hi All,

<shameless plug coming> I hope this doesn't sound corney or anything, but in addition to being an avid Gargoyles fan, I also am a crocheting nut at heart. I've been on a designing kick lately and I've designed some Gargoyle crochet patterns. Feel free to have a look, but all I ask is that you do not post them to other websites, bbs's submit them for publication, without my permission first. Here's the link to the patterns: http://www.premier.net/~lhamm/crochet.htm

Hope you'll stop by for a visit and see all of my patterns.
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, LA, USA
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:47:57 PM
IP: as22-56.eatel.net

Hi All,
Hello fellow Gargoyle fans,

This may be great news for those of us who want a Gargoyles costume....

I just had some great news from my "snail" mailbox. Two weeks ago, I wrote letters to some sewing companies (Simplicity, Butterick, McCalls, Vogue-the ones who have pattern books in the fabric stores). I asked them if they would consider putting Gargoyle costumes in their pattern books for next year.

Today, I received a positive letter from Nalina Mann at Butterick Pattern Service. She thanked me for writing and then wrote that they are going to start meeting shortly, to voice ideas for next year's Halloween costumes. She said, "I will definitely bring up Gargoyles as a possibility."

She stressed the importance of hearing from customers and potential customers about what costumes we would like to see.

I actually jumped in the air when I read the letter--I didn't expect a "one-on-one" type of response other than a standard "yes, we received your letter and will make recommendations...blah, blah"

But it appears that she actually read my letter and took an interest in it by responding to it's contents. :) :) :) :)

So please, if you have a few minutes, type out or write a letter asking for Gargoyles costumes. She sounds like she might even be a fan of the show. :)

Here are the addresses I used:

Butterick Pattern Service
Attn: Nalina Mann
161 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10013

McCall Pattern Company
11 Penn Plaza
New York, NY 10001

Simplicity Pattern Co, Inc.
Consumer Information Department
901 Wayne Street
Niles, MI 49121

Vogue Pattern Service
161 Sixth Ave
New York, NY 10013

Good luck and I hope everyone writes. It sure would make finding a costume easier for the Gatherings, Halloween, etcetera, if this possibility were to come true. :) Also, pass this on to anyone else you think who might be interested in this. :)

Thanks. :)
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, , LA, USA
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:42:23 PM
IP: as22-56.eatel.net

** The screen lights up with a Flying J Truck Stop on IH-35. The Onslaught is parked outside it, Keith hard at work on the tank with Coyote and Gearhead inside the trailer. Government Agent Ripowski is also in there, working on an inflammatory report to her superiors on the Ravens' conduct. Shap stands beside it pumping fuel into the gas tanks. Buick, Mist, and Bandit are chasing each other around the truck, watched by Gubio and Stephanie. Inside the truck stop, Doug, Jason, Kyryn, and all the other Ravens except Kitainia are at the lunch counter eating hamburgers. Doug sighs and sets his drink down. "I can't take this any more!" he says. "Where the hell is she?" "Calm down, Doug," says Shauna. "Lis is a big girl, she can take care of herself." "I know that, but I'm still worried. She's been gone for over an hour, and hasn't even called us! She disappeared during a battle, we don't even know if she's still alive. Isn't anyone else the slightest bit concerned for her?"
Jammer shrugs, "She probably took off after Rodney and Felix, she'll be back as soon as she settles with them. She'll come here, she knows we were planning to stop for gas and lunch at this place." "Still," Doug sighs, "It's not like her to be gone this long." "I'm worried, too," says Lathrop. "You're right, she should have at least told us where she was headed if she was expecting to have it take this long. She might be in grave danger." "See what I mean?" Doug asks the Ravens, who all nod in agreement, Lathrop's words of wisdom getting through to them. Doug turns to make a CR post.**

Okay, sounds like we're going to have to go look for Kitainia. Hope she's not in any big trouble, like my gut instinct says she is. Let me make a few replies, and then we'll go hunting.

Mandi: I hate registration, too. I didn't get half the classes I wanted, and because of full sections I have an 8 am every weekday next semester. Grrr... Oh well, I think I can handle it. At least the fees aren't that high.

Ancestry: Kitainia may have been kidding about Macbeth (at least I'm pretty sure she was), but I wasn't kidding about being descended from Robert. He wasn't my favorite character in Braveheart (that would be the Princess), but he was very understandable. I liked him, personally.

Three Best Stories: Well, any opinion I give on this will mainly be based on feedback I've gotten for my work, as well as my own feelings. Based on that criteria, I think my Highlander/Gargoyles crossover "To Be Immortal," "Final Hunt," and "After the Flood" have been my best stories. There's probably going to be disagreement for this from some people, and new stories may replace the old (hopefully I am getting better at writing as time goes on), but for now these three are what I consider my best ones.

The "Lost World" Quote: That's from the sequel to Jurassic Park movie, yes! And from Rage Games' video game of it, too, though the movie was of course far better.

Traveler: Long post you got there. You're welcome for all the thank-yous. Uh, Gubio lives in a house, not an apartment. Let's just say you teleported all that stuff into his living room instead, okay? He may not be home to look at it, but thank you. Glad you took care of the Marsh Building in Austin, too. The stuff in those computers should help us find out more about Marsh and his company.

**Suddenly the screen picture changes to the outside of Gubio's house. The burglar who broke into Doug's apartment is picking the door lock while Cutter, Jose, and several Bloods and Vayas Comos Ninjas watch him. Also standing nearby is a tall man dressed all in black, a ski mask and Rayban sunglasses hiding his features. "Hurry it up!" Gubio's hacker arch-nemesis Tyl36009 commands the burglar. "I bailed you out to get us into the place where we traced that teleportation, not to dilly-dally!" The burglar growls at him and opens the front door, only to have a pile of computer equipment that was on the other side fall over and crush him. Tyl sighs, "Idiot," and directs the gang members to start carting the computer equipment away and load it onto a nearby pickup. The screen changes back to Doug at the truck stop, and he continues.**

Hope nothing happens to all that stuff, thanks again for sending it to us. We'll have Lathrop teleport Gubio back to Austin to look at it once we find Kitainia. About Clan Austin, I don't think Kitainia plans to write any fanfic stories about them. She doesn't have that much time on her hands right now, what with her new job at Barnes and Noble, social life, and schoolwork. However, they will be in WCC and continue to make appearances in the RP in the future. She may also decide to write a story about them later, or I might do it for her. Here's some info on them, if anyone wants to know. Obviously all the characters were based on stereotypes from Western movies.

Guadalupe- The clan leader, looks like a Goliath-size John Wayne with the Big Guy's brow ridges and wing structure. He wears old torn blue jeans, a battered white Stetson, and brown leather jacket. Guad (his nickname) also constantly chews on a toothpick. Personality like John Wayne's hero characters in any of his Western movies.

Brazos- This guy looks exactly like the Gathering 99 Mascot (who I'm sure everyone's seen by now, right?), a big brown Longhorn-man gargoyle in a white Stetson and blue jeans. Personality like Dean Martin's drunk party guy sheriff in Rio Bravo (I think that was the movie).

Trinity- Take Helga from Hagar the Horrible, give her wings and a tail, ice blue skin, three eyes (one on her forehead, genetic deformity), and a blue dress like Una's, you got her looks. Personality also same as Helga's, with her mate Brazos constantly facing her anger along with anyone else she finds something to yell at about. Deep down, she has a heart of gold, but it is always hidden behind her air of nagging and bitchiness.

Bluebonnet- Gaud's mate, Second, the Clan Austin version of the tough dance-hall girl heroine you see in so many Western films. Grace Kelly's character in High Noon would probably be the best personality model. Physically, she dresses like Angela and has Asrial's body structure, with horns curving around her head like a crown before tapering to small points. Face like Grace Kelly's. She also wears small jade Kokopelli (flute player from Navajo myths) earrings and a rainbow friendship bracelet (gift from Kitainia) on her right arm.

Red- The Clan's beast. He looks like a giant mud-red armadillo with Bronx's head and longhorn-style horns. Personality same as any token garg-beast character.

Jacinto- the Mexican gargoyle, personality that of a tough womanizing wise guy. He speaks both English and Spanish fluently, laughs in a horse-like whinny, and likes to sing, though he can't very well (he usually holds off at the clan's insistence). He looks like a black-maned-and-tailed white horse gargoyle dressed like a mariachi complete with big black sombero hat (that always falls off his head whenever he enters a fight). He also carries a large guitar case full of guns and explosives, like the hero of that movie Desperado. :)

Alamo- the strong silent type, literally. He's Goliath's height with as much muscle as Broadway has flab. Dark brown skin, Lex's wing style, head and face like Hollywood (Broadway's clone) with boarlike fangs. Personality is like that of the mutate Claw, in that he is wise, but mute. He is also deaf and communicates through reading lips and sign language. Strong enough to punch through four feet of concrete, whenever the clan needs serious muscle they just have to remember he's around.

(Fanfic Stuff, Possible Spoilers) Thanks for commenting on my fanfic, too, Traveler, though I really prefer to answer feedback on it by e-mail. Glad you thought I handled it well, it was a big task having to start the events of the proposed New Olympians spin-off in my universe and then all of a sudden tragically kill them all off like that. While developing the characters of Silvan, Agony, Mackovic, Seth, Duval, Xanatos, and Thailog. I'm glad I did a good job with that as well as with the tragedy (at least in your opinion). Sorry I didn't have Thailog gloating, I'm still getting used to writing his character. He also didn't really have time for it, due to the bloodlust of Fang and the Ultra-Pack. But like you said, it didn't really matter, and next time he runs into the good guys, he will gloat. Majorly. Just wait and see for it. As for the surviving New Olympians, yes, we will see them again. The next installment in the saga will start off with a conversation between Goliath and Brooklyn revealing where they all went (Refuge) and what happened to Helios. Proteus I have big plans for, as do Mackovic and Thailog. He'll be playing a major role in their upcoming plot to take over the Illuminati. So we'll definitely see more of him. As for Taurus, Talos, Sphynx, Terry, and Ganymede, they might also come back. Right now I'm not sure when or under what circumstances, but I will try to involve them. Thanks for the feedback, glad to know I'm doing a good job with my fanfiction.

BTW, if anyone else wants a copy of my latest New Olympians story (TRC, Mandi, Ravyn, anyone), feel free to e-mail me and ask. I'll be happy to send it to you. I'm particularly wondering if Christine would like a copy. I shamelessly plugged her novel at least three times in there (had characters reading it), and one of my original New Olympians was partly based on the heroine of her "Jericho on the Island of Amazon Women." I laugh so much remembering THAT story. :) That's all I'll say about fanfic now, except that I continue to nurture the hope that Chris soon is able to restore his archive.
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I liked that Kurgan scene too, he is my favorite Highlander villain.

Firestorm: I liked "Girl Talk." Good characterization of Fox, Xanatos, Goliath, the Trio, and Elisa. Your Angela is different, but I like her, too. Wonder what her mother would think of her behaving the way she does in your fanfic. :)

Kitainia: You left the coolest guy on Gargoyles out of your list. I speak, of course, of David Xanatos. He's crafty, smart, tough, sinister, confident, gets the best lines, can't believe you forgot him. For cool girls, I'd say you, Ravyn, Tricia, Titania, Fox, Elisa, Angela, and Rose (Coyote's character and the girl in Titanic) are the coolest I've seen in this lifetime.

Wilek: I really hope you're not going to turn the Roswell crash into what I think you are. Being a major Star Wars fan and holding Han Solo as one of my personal major role models, I'm worried you're going to end up tarnishing him and Chewie somehow if you bring them into this. Not to mention going against the acknowledged novel series continuation of the Star Wars universe. But do it if you want to, it's your decision. Hope that in the process we at least get to find out more about Miriam's enemy Dark Jedi.

Mandi: That was a good Buffy episode, I liked the end scene with Trick and the Mayor of Sunnydale. What is the deal with that Mayor, why is he working with the vampires? Hope they explore this in a future episode. I hated the Mayor and really had problems with his character in his first appearance, but now he's grown on me and I like him as a villain. Hope to see more of him in the future. Trick, too, even though he can not hold a candle to Spike for best vampire villian.

That's all for now, later!
**Doug turns to the Ravens, "Well, what are we waiting for, let's go find her!" "Some of us should stay here in case she comes back," points out Tricia. "The tank needs to be fixed, we have to resupply, and Gubio needs to be teleported back home to look at all those computers." "Right," Doug says. "Let's do this. Lathrop, you teleport Gubio. Then you, Stephanie, and Orion come with me to look for her in the Taurus. Jammer, you and Shap stay here with Trish and Shauna, get our supplies taken care of. Keith can help Coyote and his friends finish the repair work. Kyryn, you come or stay, your decision. Let's be off now." The Ravens and their allies all nod at each other and head out to carry out their orders as the screen goes blank. To be continued.**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:38:24 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zoi-vty76.as.wcom.net

Glad to see the Author Directories are back and running. Thanks for the "heads up" Merlin Missy. :)
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, , LA, USA
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:27:55 PM
IP: as22-56.eatel.net

**Sevarius Jr. quits studying the body long enough to see what Wilek and the others are gasping about...**

Hmm...wonder what's up.

Bab 5 quotes: Man, there are more there than just about any show I know. J. Michael Strazcynski is such a great writer... And for my money, my favorite Zathras quote is:
"Zathras is used to being beast of burden for other people's needs. Very sad life, very sad. Probably followed by very sad death, but at least there is symmetry."

Scottish ancestry: I'm the teensiest bit Irish myself. SO THAT MEANS I CAN DRINK ALL YOU SCOTTISH HOOLIGANS UNDER THE TABLE! Begorah!

**SJ pears over Wilek's shoulder at the other two bodies...

"Hey, what's....oh no. NO. Anybody but them! I...I loved those guys....so many happy memories....and the Wookie...I never understood him, but I liked him...I WILL AVENGE YOU MY BROTHERS!..."**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:21:47 PM
IP: rob-106-02.labs.gmu.edu

>T.J. Veil- <Think you can write a little more next time? ;-)> I shall try T.J. Veil, I shall try.>:) *Laughs insanely.* BTW we're up to 244K now!!!

>While we are on the topic of AIRNTK.....whatever, has anyone here heard of Murphy's Laws? I ask because I have a poster of something similar: Peter's Laws: The Creed of the Sociopathic Obsessive Compulsive. There are 19 of them, so I'm going to list one at the end of my next 18 posts.>:) BTW, I have to start with the first, some are in cronological order.

1.) If anything can go wrong, Fix It! (To hell with Murphy!)

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons,dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, and yet still unbelieveably EVEN more dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, AND THE DRAGON KING!!! AHHH HA! HA! HA! My virus cannot be stopped!!!!
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:07:39 PM
IP: 171-157-239.ipt.aol.com

*Merlin flies into the room on her broom, and out the opposite door, dropping a buttery-smelling piece of brown paper as she goes.*

"The author directories are back! Click on my name to get there."
Merlin Missy - [mrwilson@umr.edu]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:03:44 PM
IP: speedo.physics.umr.edu

Kyryn > yeah, I was ROTFLMAO the first time I read AIRNTK....B5. My personal favorite from it is "Always wash your hands after playing cards with a Centauri."

Wilek > My personal favorite B5 quote has to be "You take, Zathras die. You leave, Zathras die. Either way, is bad for Zathras." But there are just so many great lines in it that I good on forever.

Mandi > Good luck on your Physics test. I know how much classes can distract from fic. It's been nearly a week and a half since I got a chance to work on mine. Currently I only have two in progress, neither which is Garg related, and another (my Gargoyles/Darkwing Duck crossover) on the back burner. Hopefully I'll have time to work on them soon. And as to Buffy, yeah, that was a funny episode. I loved where Buffy hit Giles with the ball when they were training. And Snyder actually did something other than yell at people, although he was still a pain in the but

Zath > True, but I found it more amusing to have everyone tell Xanatos to smeg off.

Traveller > This week if the room's to big, we know that it wasn't the RP. Think you can write a little more next time? ;-)

Coyote > I enjoyed the new chapter of G:CM. The whole captivity scenario was played out very well. The only thing I had a problem with is that at the end, Lina seems to be completely over Rain. IMHO, even if she's accepted that he is with Rosanna, she would still act a little differently.

Thought for the day
"It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?"
T. J. Veil - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 01:25:22 PM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

On my front step at my house, I found a package that had a faint butter smell. Remembering that there are explosives that smell like food, I called the bomb squad.
Dont worry. I am ok. They detonated the package without a hitch! ;)
DumlaoX: Got the package. I thought you meant STYROFOAM popcorn! I will be getting kernals out of my zip drive for the next year or so! ;)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:46:50 PM
IP: dhcp168.visitus.net

Coyote> <g> Actually Friday the 13th is usually my lucky day too. Although I don't consider it good that the Stars lost to the Coyotes last night (some kind of irony there). I read the latest chapter - <My mom?> - *l*. I liked that.

Later
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:12:15 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Traveler: Okay, you think you've got it figured out. Send me your theory of who Rain is, and I'll tell you how close you are. Be warned, though, that I have a very elaborate history already in place for Rain, but I can't tell him yet, because it's more satisfying to have him figure it out for himself.

Deuce: Works for me, dude. I've already got Kyryn against me tomorrow night (her team is the Stars).

Kyryn: Err ... did I happen to mention that good things always happen to me on Friday the 13th?
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:24:00 AM
IP: modem41.i-is.com

** enters, very angry **

Freakin' Toronto! I am NOT very happy right now; check your local sports news to find out why. Look for the Oilers. Look for the numbers 3 and 2 really close together, with "EDM" on the wrong side. Grrrr....

All of you with Hotmail accounts, beware... a small local firm has found a way to totally disintegrate Hotmail security by sending you an e-mail with embedded JavaScript. When you open the message, you are asked to re-login, and they receive an e-mail with your IP address, login name, and password. Actually, they found out last August, but the hole hasn't been plugged. To make matters worse, details of how to hack this are spreading over the 'net at an alarming speed.

Now before you laugh me out of here, this is NOT a hoax. I can get you a copy of the article in my paper if you want. (It's hanging on my bedroom wall right now). All I'm saying is be careful - don't open e-mail from people you don't know, and if you get a suspicious-looking HTML message, change your password immediately. :-) This has been a public service announcement.

P.S. Coyote- You're a great guy, and I really like you, but we become mortal enemies next Wednesday... for a couple hours at least (check local sports listings).
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions (despite the bloody Maple Leafs), Alberta, Canada
Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:19:30 AM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net

**Mandi walks in through the wall.**

TGIT! Whew, at least now I have a little more free time, so I'm going to try to catch up on what I missed. :)

Wilek and Kitania--<<"That's how it all starts, but then there's running and screaming.">> Er, I don't know about RageGames, but that reminds me of a line from "The Lost World" (the film, not the book).

Slightly OT, but since there's a few Buffy fans in here--anyone else see "Band Candy" this week? Classic Willow quote, seeing "Kiss Rocks" spraypainted on the lockers: "'Kiss Rocks'? Why would anyone want to kiss--oh, wait, I get it."

Heather--Wow! What a great birthday present!! Have a great time, hon, and happy birthday!

Scottish Ancestry--Doug, you're related to Robert the Bruce?? No kidding? That's awesome! I don't know if I have any Scottish ancestry, and I doubt it unless it's on my grandfather's side; since he left when my mother was ten, I suppose I'll never know. :)

Cyrway--I stopped watching South Park some time ago, but I love the pic!! Hehehehe....

T.J. Veil--Actually, fic usually takes priority, but I have a Physics exam on Friday. Which might explain why I'm so behind with everything....hmmm...

**Mandi checks her watch. "Oops. Class." She waves and walks out through the wall again.**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 09:36:16 AM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Just been to get a signed copy of Terry Pratchett's new novel - Carpe Jugulum :)
The signings are always busy, (I was there an hour and a half early, but still wasn't in the first twenty). The queue led out of the shop, up the street a couple of hundred metres and then round the corner of the block. Mad, he's only supposed to be there for an hour.

Which of his books was released most recently in the US, as a matter of interest?
Also heard from Terry that the US company who had the film rights for Mort have decided NOT to renew them, so it looks like no film in the near future - Fools.

Oh, on an actual Gargoyles note, are there any Quake/Unreal models/skins that have been created based on Gargoyles characters?

Thanks.
MDY - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKThursday, November 12, 1998 08:10:54 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

WHHOOO!!! 16.1KB! The longest yet! I really have to stop makeing them so long. Oh well, while were on the side topic of The Highlander franchise, I felt it my duty to put this in.

*A priest walks toward the Kurgan* "Excuse me sir, but could you please leave. Others are trying to pray." "Father forgive me for I am a worm (wyrm?)." *The Kurgan then stands up and yells.* "I have something to say! It's better to burn out, than fade away!" *He then does a little jig and walks out of the Church laughing.*

Sorry but that's one of the best scenes with the Kurgan, and I couldn't resist.>:)

>Mercedes- Hmmm...I'm familar with the premise of the Ranma series, but not in detail. Are they any good? (As in good enough to buy?) As for an answer, it's pretty easy since nobody knows what he looks like underneth the armor. So it would just be the armor except modified in a feminine shape. But then that's IF the pool even affected him, which I doubt it would. Of course this is just for fun so it really doesn't matter.:)
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 02:14:11 AM
IP: 207-47-41.ipt.aol.com

<The gargoyle quarterling Night Flame glides into the room. Upon landing, he forms the CR Marching Band from the ground.
The band then trumpets the welcome fan-fare.
Night Flame then pulls a scroll out of his belt, unrolls it and reads it out loud.
(In a deep, bellowing voice) "ANNOUNCING: MY UPDATED STORY PAGE, COMPLETE WITH RE-VAMPED VERSIONS OF THE TOLD STORIES AND MY OWN SERIES PREMIERE, "GIRL TALK."
He then rolls up the scroll and it disappears in a ball of flame. Afterwards, he points the palm of his gloved hand at empty space and a wormhole appears. He steps though, and the wormhole disapears behind him.>
Night Flame - [<--- Click here for updated versions oy my stories and a new one!]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 01:37:43 AM
IP: dhcp153.visitus.net

**<As the image fades, Traveller and CC reappear. 'I have _got_ to learn how you do that.' Fleur mutters.> Traveler: Well...the way I do it, I don't think it's something that can be taught. Hmmm...Although I could unlock your mage potential. But now is hardly the time to do that and teach you how to open simple transport portals. Fleur mutters, then notices a sign on a nearby door. "Main computer." Can it be _this_ easy? Traveler: *grins evily* I don't know! Let's find out! *hehehe* *Traveler opens the door and to everyone's suprise it is the building's computer center* Fleur *amazed*: Well what do you know. It really is the computer room. Traveler *relieved*: Finialy! All right, we're here, let's not take any chances. I hope Kitainia, Doug and Gubio don't mind to much about this *sniggers*. *opens a large portal that quickly envelops all of the computers storage and admin. systems, then closes.* Fleur *annoyed*: Traveler, what did you do with the computer equipment that we came all this way for? Traveler *playfuly*: Well...I sent it directly to Gubio's appartment. *thinks for a second or two* I wonder if he will still be able to open the door? Oh well, I suppose we should nuke this place and leave now before anything else happens. *Just then something else happens. The walls slide open and reveal about a hundred more heavly armed commandos who open fire.* Traveler: *whispers* I just had to open my big mouth. *yells to the rest of the team who are waiting outside in the hall except for Fleur who is in the room with Traveler.* Everyone hit the deck and take cover!!! *the scene fades out as Fleur and Traveler start to bar-be-que commandos.**

*A vortex opens and Traveler with CC perched on his shoulder step out before it closes.* Jeez...lurk for a few days without posting and the room just about mushrooms in size! Well, on to the replies/comments.

*****A five asterix salute, and a moment of silence for the late, great Bob Kane. Spawner of the Creativity Demon that became all things Batman.*****


>Cyrway- <Anyway, I'm not sure if I should take that as a compliment or a complaint.> It was a compliment; very few fanfic series have the level of story interweaving and (insanely humorus sometimes) storytelling style that yours does. (Although I'm not sure all that many other garg fanfic authors are as obsessed with Moorcock as you are.>:)) Um...what was that bit you mentioned to Coyote the Bando about the history of the 'Daikatana'? On the topic of the accursed one's whose names shall not be spoken (the teletubbies); <and yes, the Teletubbies actually die in one of the skits...moshed to death...'nuff said.> Well...at least they'll die a horrible, grusome death>:)

>Merlin Missy- Any titles or teasers to go with those 'upcomming 'fics'?

>Batya "The Toon" Levin- <Traveler> In the immortal words of Opus the Penguin: "Thththppptht." *evil grin*> I've heard of Terry Pratchett, but have not yet read any of his works. Although with the types of responses I've been reading in here, I'm begining to think I should. And what exactly did Dreamworks do to make you so upset that your not going to see ANTZ in the theaters?

>Wilek Nereus- <CC is so adorable.> Thank you Wilek *squeak! squeak!*, and CC thanks you to. She can't wait until she's big enough to go after the CR Lawyer>:) To answer your question about my dusters lining and pockets: Well...kinda, but not>:) Let me put it this way, when I said 'pocket universe' I meant it.>:) On the topic of: <Finally, I agree about the Teletubbies. They are the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse.> Hmmm....I thought Cyrway had the Four Horsemen in WCC? Oh no, this could be bad, very bad indeed.*hehehe*>:) <Cyrway> Macs are the root of all evil.> No...Bob Vilia and 'This Old House' is. (according to my father anyway.>:))

>Doug- <On a TGS-related note, is anyone else curious as to how many of the Unseelie have a chance for reform?> If I must speculate I'd say it's a good bet on Umbriel, and possibaly Loki. After all, what good is being the Norse god of Trickery when all of your cohorts don't laugh at the show (of sorts) you put on. Besides for a trickster, what better reason for turning tratior than: "Well, they didn't laugh at my jokes. Besides, you goody-two-shoes are much more fun to play with!" Although he wouldn't risk his own neck at turning tratior until he was VERY sure that the mortals could defeat Madoc. After all, in war and comedy, it's all in the timing. *hehehe* One other thing: <BTW, doesn't a kitty with a chaingun scare anyone else here? I know it does me.> Only if she sees a mouse, a dog, or gets into some catnip.>:)
****Doug Elder Fanfic Minior Spoiler.****
Oh, and Doug, I just read the fanfic you sent me. Ahh...nothing like the smell of genocide in the morning.>:) I believe given the gravity of the events that unfolded in your latest, that you handled the situation quite well. I would however, like to know how much of the New Olympian characters we're going to see in future eps. It would have been nice however, if Thailog had gloated a bit with Boraes, and the other members of the council about exactaly why they were being destroyed and by who's orders. But then again, that's only a minor nitpick and one way or the other it wouldn't affect the rest of the story.
****End of Minor Doug Elder Fanfic Spoiler.****

>Cotoye the Bando- 13 free agents, huh? Will there be pay caps like in hockey? *hehehe* (mind listing them?) *Looking up stock historys of pharmaceutical companys* Tylenol and Metabolife, got it.>:) <BTW, did you name your gator after Lauren Lane's character on "The Nanny?"> No. Guess what it's short for. Also I 'think' I know who Rain is, but I'm not saying.>:) If you want my guess ask and I'll e-mail it to you.

>Jaden- OK, here's the group I'm involved with: Fleur(I believe a gargoyle of some type, but she should really describe her own character), Clan Austin(Clan of Texas Gargoyles loaned to us by Kitainia), myself (Traveler, a roughly humanoid in size and shape, fully encased in black medium weight body armor, wears black duster over that, and has so far undefined powers most commonly used to open transport vortexes composed of dark energy.), and I believe we had some Storm Troopers around here somewhere... Anyway, we are all ransacking the Marsh Industries Building in downtown Austin(?) TX, looking for the computer core of that building so we can give it to Doug and Kitainia's hacker friend. We have fought through commandos, War Robots, and have just finished fighting a vicious pack of Giant Barney Clones (GBC) and found the computer room.

>Kitainia- <TGS-related post: Yes, I'm wondering why the US government is not responding to the Gargs in New York.> Todd Jensen and I dicussed this point a few weeks (months?) ago. Ask around to see if anyone is archiving all of the CR's. Or just keep pestering Jensen, me, and the room until you get us to answer.>:) BTW, I think Clan Austin is your's, and if so is there a/any upcomming/already released stories about these guys?

>S.J.- I thought Dexter looked familiar. Now I know why.

>Cyrway- (I really have to post more often, I get halfway up and there is more from you to respond to!) Well, a Mac crashing, who'da thunk it? *hehehe* Boys and girls out there in research report and fanfiction land, heed this as proof of the "SAVE OFTEN, SAVE EARLY." advice you keep hearing. All I can say Cyrway is don't rush it. E-mail it out, I believe the line goes "When it's done." As for the Mac, what model is it and what OS is it running? <Gawd...my kingdom for a Unix...> So your one of the rare few who enjoy writing your own device drivers? *hehehe* Ah...Bill Gates and his Evil Empire. On a second thought, I'm not going to get into that.>:) Then consideres bringing up the fiasco known as "South Park Horrors". On a third thought, I'm not going to get into that either.>:)

>I'm Sorry- OK this is all I'm going to say about it. Look at the situation from a different point of view. My view, the sociopaths.>:)) To kill one must have a reason, and more importantly a purpose. It doesn't have to be a justifiable reason, only a good one. (At least to your self.) And the purpose killing a person(s) serves must justify itself by affecting the world in some meaningful way. By the end of I'm sorry, Demona has realized her mistake, and has lived in the world she created, and just doesn't care weather(sp?) she lives or dies anymore. In fact she does want to die rather than continue to go on hunted and completely alone. Before this, killing Demona, and in the process herself, would have completed the cycle Demona started so long ago; and ensured that if/when a new sentient race came about on Earth the cycle of life and death would start again without her to muck it up among other things. Now since she just doesn't care anymore, and isn't her old genocidal self, killing her would serve no true purpose because she isn't a threat or negitive influence anymore. Beside that, Elisa would have struck her down in a rage of emotion for all that she had lost, and all that Demona had done. Killing in and for that state of mind is one of the poorest and unfortunaly one of the most often used excuses. It accoplishes nothing but personal satisfaction, that may be alright if your having a psychotic episode, but it will eventually end, and after that you will have to deal with the concequences of that death(s). Of course this wouldn't count for Elisa though, she'd die along with Demona. Also, I'd like to add something a few people who have added their thoughts on this subject have either forgotten or not yet realized: We (the human race) are (despite popular misconception/opinion) not the center of the universe. We are curently, and may always be nothing more than as that line goes "dust in the wind". If the entire human race were destroyed for one reason or another tommorow, in the big picture of the existance of the universe, it wouldn't really matter at all. Reflect on that for a moment. In "I'm Sorry" only the Fay, Gargoyles, and Humans were killed off. So what, big loss, life on Earth hasn't ended, just three more species thanks mostly to their own doing. Life would go on, it's just that we wouldn't.

****Warning: This is not a test. This is a real EPISODE SPOILER!!!****

WHOOOEEEE!!! Now that was some piece of storytelling work! Quite the nice illistrations in it as well thanks to one Rene "Damocles" Modesto. Truthfully, at the begining, I had no idea why the professor was preforming that ritual, but the rest of the story filled in that missing info. nicely. It was also nice to check in with the happenings in Manhatten for a change of pace after having that string of Pendragon eps. Anyway, keep up the spectacular work TGS Staff!

****END of EPISODE SPOILERS!!!****

>THANK YOU- To whoever mentioned that Shadow Master had just posted a new fic to his series. If you had not mentioned this it most likely would have been weeks before I went over and checked his archive.

>Fleur- What's this I hear about you writing a fanfic? Is it your first? Are you going to post it when the archive come back up? What's its' title? *starts jumping up and down like an excited little kid* Tell us! Tell us!

>Mercedes- *reads her post* Doh!!! *begins hitting himself over the head with a large concrete block* It seems I had a slight "Brain Fart" tm. It must be the fact that the Archive has been down for so long.>:) (Seriously though, if I had any knowledge of SQL2.0 database programing, I'd be helping Chris rebuild it right now.) Also: *recalls a mental picture of Zaphiro, then the description of Quetzalcoatl.* Hmmm...snake-like body, feathered wings, head and mouth structure that could only be described as a maw... *thinking* Yep, family resemblence if I ever saw one.>:) Oh, and welcome to the room.:)

>Temperature [F]- Well... I prefer the warmer temps. (75-90+), but I'm comfortable in shorts down to about 30. In a pair of jeans and t-shirt I'm good until about -20. That is of course if it isn't really windy. If it is, below 30, I need a jacket over the t-shirt. (Note: I almost never wear any article of clothing with sleaves, excluding jackets.) Cold resistence is key if you want to survive a NE winter. I'm sure others here can attest to that. *looks at Cyrway on her Arctic Cat.*

>TGS Staff- <King Arthur is a halfling.> I've wondered about this for some time, and then forgot about it. Thanks for bringing it back up Doug. Anyway, even if Arthur does not have any real magical talent, he is still HALF fay. This would at least grant him a ridiculusly long life span, if not immortality. Although, being half fay, wouldn't he at least be somewhat sensitive to magic? Like being able to "feel" it if it was being used near him or something similar?

*Traveler walks over to the humidifer which is spraying the room with the cure to the "Dragon Virus" which Traveler released into the room weeks ago.* Well, well, well what do we have here? *heheh* They think they have a cure. *Face-plate twists into a mainical grin* We'll just see about that. *reaches into his duster, feels around for a second, and pulls out a glass vile containing a glowing geen liqiud. Then opens the humidifier and pours it in.* They never know what hit'em. *hehehehh*

Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons,dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, yet still unbelieveably EVEN more dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, AND THE DRAGON KING!!! AHHH HA! HA! HA! My virus lives again!

**Scene: Traveler and Fleur are toasting commandos while the rest of the team waits under orders, in the hall. Fleur: Traveler, playing with this buildings defence and security force is getting rather boring. We have the mainframe, lets just nuke the place and go. Traveler: Umm....OK. Follow me. *Traveler and Fleur continue to fire as they back their way out into the hallway where the rest of the team is waiting for them. Then Traveler throws a tear gas canister into the room before he closes and locks the door.* Traveler: Alright we only have a minute or so until they break down that door...*he reaches into his coat and pulls out a void density core.* (Hope you don't mind TRC, I guess we must shop at the same arms dealers>:) so I'll set this for 30 seconds. *procedes to set it for 30 seconds before anyone can protest.* Fleur: You screwball! We can't get out of here that fast! We're all going to be vapiorized in the blast now! Traveler*smiling*: Not if we all take a quick trip on Traveler portalways vortex express! *hehehe* *He then opens a large portal in the hallway and ushers everyone through before steping in and closing it. Then just as the counter reaches 0:00:05, the commandos get a clue and shoot the lock off the door, and storm out into the hallway; just as Shallow Mouth in his new body shows up.* SM *looking around and taking in the situation as being one that his new body could defintily NOT withstand.*: Oh %*%*@. I just had to stop for that donught and coffee. Just as the counter reaches 2 seconds, a portal opens, Travelers arm snakes out and grabs SM pulling him into the portal and closing it just before the bomb goes off. As he does this Traveler can be heard muttering under his breath: Oh no you don't, I just brought you back and gave you a new body.* Exterior shot of the Marsh Building: All is silent for a moment, then a bright flash of white light, followed by a rumbling so loud it causes all of the office building windows within 3 miles to shatter, and then the building seems to just fold in on itself, ah-la Poltergist. Then it's just gone, all that remains is the plaza that was in front, and a depression where the sub-basements were. The scene fades out as we see a vortex opening somwhere, and the team steping out. Almost all have slight cases of vertigo thanks to inexperience in near instainious travel. Traveler is heard apolgising to everyone.* Traveler: Jeez, I said I'm sorry, look I for got, you get use to it after a little while, really. *Clan Austin looks at him with murder in their eyes, while the Storm Troopers are all uncouncious on the ground.* Traveler*looks around*: Wait a minute, where are we? Fleur?** (Fleur, pick it up from here, you decide where we are.)
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 01:37:11 AM
IP: 207-47-41.ipt.aol.com

[Wilek, Miriam, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, all five Doom Commandos, TRC the bikers, the five Dark Troopers, SJ, and Frankie are in an autopsy facility in Area 51. SJ's studying an alien body, and Wilek's wondering if he should take a look at one of the other two that are lying here (he has plans; don't disrupt).] I'm glad SJ and TRC got back alright; I was getting worried. [SJ's getting a sample of whatever's leaking from that other body in order to study it.] Oh, merciful Oberon. Yecch.

Coyote> LOVED the new fic! Somehow I was under the impression that "Life and Death..." would be the last fic till WCC; glad I was wrong. <<What was that?! <"Uh ... would you believe the exhaust manifold?"> >> That's from Back To The Future III, isn't it?

Heather> THAT IS THE KEWLEST BITHDAY PRESENT EVER! Wow.

Ravyn> Glad you liked the Dialectizer. Actually, Roy Sato found it in the other room; I just brought it here. There is nothing weirder than seeing Xanatos say "slap mah 'fro".

TJ Veil> Kewl Babylon 5 quote; that's one of my favorites! (Anyone ever notice that B5 is a veritable smorgasbord of lovely quotables? "I have to kill it before it develops language skills." "I'll twist your head off and use it for a chamber pot!" And et cetera.)

Kitainia> <<"That's how it all starts, but then there's running and screaming.">> That's from an arcade game; I remember seeing it on the RageGames website.

Deuce> When you told me "nope", what exactly were you responding to?

Hey, has anyone seen Wavelength and Seri lately? They haven't been here in a while.

[Wilek looks at those other two alien bodies that have so captured his attention. In spite of himself, he decides to pull back the sheet and look upon the face of an alien.] No...it can't be...[This particular alien's face is very, very familiar. Brown fur, blue eyes, a puggish, doglike nose...this is a Wookie.] What...this can't be real...no...[Wilek replaces the sheet and looks at the other body. It's a very recognizable human, who apparently died in his mid-thirties or forties.] No...<sob>...this can't be them...they aren't real...guys...GUYS GET IN HERE! [The rest of the team runs into the facilities. "Wilek, what's wrong?" Teri asks.] Look at the bodies. ["Wh..."] Just look at the bodies! [They all take a look and also recognize the bodies.] I think I know what crashed at Roswell. I think I know what Thailog's up to and who he's working with. [To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, November 12, 1998 01:29:55 AM
IP: tnt-2-49-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**The screen comes on. Asil and Guod are standing in a farm field somewhere, talking to a middle-aged lanky British guy dressed in a red coat and military uniform. With him are a similarly dressed Chinese woman, an English woman, and five young people (one Welsh guy, one Japanese guy, two English girls, an English guy, and a German guy). They happen to be the "gang" of headmaster, teachers, and students who treated Doug so badly when he went to that British school just because he acted somewhat like Merlin did at Mons Carbi. "You're going after the Black Ravens," Guod is saying to Headmaster McCormick. "That's how it all starts, but then there's running and screaming." Asil glares at him and produces a low growl in her throat. Suddenly Rodney and Felix's truck pulls up and they get out, carrying Kitainia. "We got us a prisoner," Felix says. "And a darn pretty one," laughs the German Johan. "Wonder if she's up to us," chuckles the Welsh Matt Evans. Asil laughs at them along with the girls (Kate and Charlotte), then slaps Kitainia awake. "Augh!" Kitainia screams. "Where am I?" "Welcome to my world," Asil smiles. "Now get ready to leave it." "Not without painful torture, though?" asks Ms.Green, the evil English PE teacher. "Of course not," Asil laughs maniacally. "Any last requests?" "Can I make a final CR post?" asks Kitainia, grinning as a plan comes to mind. Asil sighs and says okay.**

Looks like I'm in trouble. Asil, Guod, Rodney, Felix, McCormick, Ms.Green, Ms.Chang, Charlotte, Kate, Evans, Rudi, Johan, and Chas against me! I do not like these odds. Good thing my healing factor already took care of those gunshot wounds.

Jaden: It's okay on the joke. If you want to come rescue me, that might be a good way to work your character in. This post will end in a major solo fight, me against all these baddies. It's going to be bad odds, so I'd appreciate your help. (But since I planned this, please nobody else's.)

Ancestry: Mainly Jewish, little Scot. My father gets his roots from England, Scotland, and Denmark, my mother from England, Holland, and Wales. I don't think there are any famous folk in my ancestry. We've traced it back as far as some guy named Thorbaldson (hmm, I wonder...) on the Denmark side and Malcolm Canmore on the English side, guess they come close. Oh wait, Canmore, that means I'm distantly descended from Macbeth! Now that is cool. <grins happily>

Robby: Good, glad I didn't hurt your feelings.

Happy Veterans' Day to all!! My father served as a medic in the Gulf War, and was a grunt in 'Nam. So he's one. When they start letting women go into combat, maybe I will also be.

Mercedes: Hmm, I can imagine me wet, but not of the opposite gender. Bet I'd look cool as a guy, even though. <smile>

Coyote: Thanks, I'll read the comic later. If you need help fixing the tank, Keith is an excellent mechanic. He's the guy we go to whenever my bike, Jim's car, or Stephanie's needs to be tuned. Don't know if he's ever worked on a tank.
Poor Samson, hope the spell comes off soon. But while it's on, he does make a good villain.

Not sure what Doug thinks of Robert the Bruce, I feel about his character the same way Coyote does. Canmore and Hakon I don't particularly like, but they did make good villians. As for Macbeth, he is one of the many definitions of cool-guy-ness. No question about that. :) (Others include Goliath, Brooklyn, Broadway, Lex, Doug, Coyote, King Arthur, and too many more to say here.)

Firestorm: That Alone story of yours is good, but spooky. Glad it will never happen in a real Gargoyles or TGS ep.

**That's long enough," Asil growls. "Prepare her." Felix grabs Kitainia's arms and pins them behind her back with his muscles as the Brit gang all draw bayonet knives. "First I'm going to remove those lovely wings," gloats Chas. "And that tail," adds Rudi. "You are an abomination." "Well, not as much as who you're working for," Kitainia snaps back. Asil roars and slaps her across the face. Kitainia meantime has piled her tail around Felix's legs and as she recoils grabs those legs with her tail and constricts. The large mustached man screams in sudden pain and lets go of her. Kitainia flips around, grabs the guy and throws him into Rudi and Johan. She then goes into a fighting stance as the other Brits advance, Asil and Guod backing off to watch and see if their allies can handle her. Rodney helps the three knocked down to their feet and they also advance on Kitainia. She adopts an expression of determination as the screen goes blank. To be continued.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:46:58 AM
IP: hil-c45-026-vty67.as.wcom.net

Robby: You want to know about "Alone", Eh? <VEWG>
It is a bright, sunny story about frolicing in a field of daisies with a picnic lunch... YEah right.
Alone is a dark story about Angela. Click my link to check out the story. Tonight, I am updating that page and most stories, so don't read them until Thursday afternoon at the earliest for the best effect.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:29:03 AM
IP: dhcp175.visitus.net

Spike: Just came from the G99 page. Just bookmarked the G99 page. I am *very* impressed ... you guys could give Creation a run for their money. (and yes, I submitted mascot names.)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:18:47 PM
IP: modem45.i-is.com

Coyote> Heyla! I've read the sketch that you and Cyrway did. *G* *LOL* It was GREAT! Can't wait until it's up.

Cyrway> *hint?*

Traveler> RE: "A Moment of Rage" (comment from last week):
I finished and posted "A Moment of Rage" in March! If you mean the sequel, "The Guardian of Delphi: Part 2, Lonely Hearts", That will be out as soon as I can get it editted and tweaked. Hopefully before Christmas.
Mercedes - [chimura@geocities.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:54:08 PM
IP: 155.42.26.101

**The screen lights up to reveal Coyote's tank back in the Onslaught's trailer. Various autmotive parts are flying out from under it, along with the Gearhead's legs. Jason has taken Buick further forward in the trailer to ogle some of the high-tech stuff. Coyote's drinking a bottle of water in the Commander's Seat of the tank.**

Hey, guys. Well, from what the Gearhead's told me, the octane boost he put in the fuel blew a huge hole in the turbine of the tank. It was burning too hot, and right now the Gearhead's trying to pull a MacGyver on it, so we can at least roll on our own power. How's it going?

<"Might be a while, boss. I rogered this thing pretty good.">

**Coyote smirks.** He's been messing with the dialectizer, I think. Anyway, let's get to some replies.

Kitiania, Mandi: Thanks for the comments on the story. Yes, I was thinking about Lina's state of mind, as well when I finished #21, and since I hadn't done anything with her in a while I figured it was a good time to do a story with her.
As far as Rain goes ... making you wonder is the whole point to my little revelations. From what I've written thus far, you can tell a few things about him:

1) He has some link to the Guatemala gargoyles, specifically the two who accompanied trees to Avalon.
2) He has some link to Coyote.
3) Elisa has somehow manipulated his life so as to bring him to Manhattan, almost as a hand-picked mate.

And as for Samson ... the Obedient Child Spell makes him be what Demona wants him to be. She wants him to be a merciless warrior and her second. She was hoping to bring Lina to her side by breaking her spirit, so that's why Samson was being particularly cruel. The real Samson, the one buried by the magic, probably wants to kill himself for being so cruel.

Kitainia again: If you want, you can see the rest of the stories at that site (there's 22 others, your basic superhero action stuff.). Just go to the index page there. Glad you liked it, I consider that story possibly *the* best I've ever written. It was the one that I got most emotional about writing.

Which brings up an interesting question for all the writers in here ... what do you consider your three best stories? They don't necessarily have to be fanfics. For example, my three are:

"Shattered Innocence" (the cybercomic issue Kitainia mentioned earlier)
"Life and Death at Castle Wyvern"
and "Shadows and Memories"

Cyrway: I'll have to locate my grandmother's book of Scottish clans to look for yours, to see where they were in relation to the MacGregors. I do though have the MacGregors' clan motto memorized: "S'roighal mo dhream," translated to "Royal is my race."

Mercedes: Hi there! BTW, I do agree that Zafiro was modeled to look like Quetzalcoatl (which was desribed to be a feathered serpent.).

Doug: Sounds about right. I wonder now how you feel about Robert the Bruce's characterization in "Braveheart." I personally liked him ... for a while. Then I didn't. Then I liked him again.

BTW, other than Rob Roy (which I'm not sure about the bloodline for that one), I do know I have blood relation to Lord Admiral Horation Nelson.

Ravyn: Glad it worked. Hope he's feeling much better ... and I hope he wins.

Robby: Well, you'd be worried about it if your turbine had just blown!

Ultimate Gargfic Deathmatch: Hope you get our sketch up soon, Ace. I'd love to hear what these guys think about our collaboration.

HM Coldstone: Where were you in the Navy? Just curious, both of my 'rents are 20 year vets (my dad was aboard a refuel ship in Vietnam, and got lost for four days in the jungle once.), and I'm wondering if I ever was anyplace you were.

***RP!!***

How's it going, dude?

<"I'm almost done. Hand me that incision torch over yonder, wouldja?">

Okay. **Coyote grabs the torch, hands it to the Gearhead. Sparks begin flying out of the bottom of the tank, then stop. The Gearhead slides out from under the tank, black but smiling.** Well?

<"Fire 'er up, let's see how she purrs.">

**Coyote hits the ignition. More black smoke pours out of the back end, stops, then a huge piece of machinery flies out, nearly decapitating Jason and Buick, who are just coming back.**

What was that?!

<"Uh ... would you believe the exhaust manifold?">

Oh, great. Well guys, it looks like the tank's done for, unless you've got some super mechanics there. The Gearhead was the best mechanic I know.

**Coyote is looking down, along with the rest of his group as the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:46:04 PM
IP: modem45.i-is.com

(Or it would have been a cool pic :P )

Upcoming plans: Okay, this prolly won't happen for a month or so, but I have a fun idea for an art contest which I'll be putting on mine and Cyrway's site.

What would your character/ persona look like if she/ he fell into pond of Drowned Boy/ Girl?

For those of you who have never seen "Ranma 1/2": What would your main persona or character look like as a member of the opposite gender? I prolly won't start this contest until after the Gargoyles Fanfic Deathmatch is over with, but I'd figure I'd get the idea out and see if anyone had any ideas on how to run such a contest.

Also, those of you familiar with Ranma: I have only seen a couple episodes (though, by the time I hold the contest, I will prolly have seen most of the first season ;) and read a few dozen fanfics. If you can think of any particulars I need to know, or you just want to tell me, please do!
Mercedes - [chimura@geocities.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:24:23 PM
IP: 155.42.26.101

(cool pic. :)

Re: Zaphiro

Firestorm and Zath> I figured as much. Thought I'd mention it anyways. Thanks for the welcome!

Todd> *nods*

Taleweaver> Possibly. Unfortanately, we didn't study the Mayans at all and we studied very little about Incan mythos.

Cyrway> *G* Heyla, Sis. Haven't I heard that idea before? *remembers the first time she introduced Cyrway to Red Dwarf*
Mercedes - [chimura@geocities.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:13:25 PM
IP: 155.42.26.101

**The CR screen comes on showing Kyryn speeding northward on I-35. She spots the Onslaught heading southbound, cuts across the grassy median and takes up a flanking position and lets the crew know that she is there. She looks over at the screen**

Moment of silence and hand over heart for our fallen veterans and prayers for those currently on deployment in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere (I can't salute, since I'm not military, but the hand over the heart is the civilian version)

Heather> Congrats on being able to go to the con. When is it and where in Dallas? Also, when is your B-day?

Scottish ancestry> Well, my ancestors were Sassenach, meaning the Marshbournes (the name is now Mashburn) lived in the borderlands between Scotland and England and probably fought on both sides depending on whom they currently owed allegiance to.

Cyrway> I always mentally pronounced it that way. Now I'm glad to know that I got it right. Gargs & Red Dwarf - I thought of it too, but you got to it first - ROTFL at the mental images. Of course I was also thinking of a crossover with Chef. Can you see Chef going nuts at the sight of Broadway in his kitchen? <g>

FS>I've heard the song and heard of it. The tune has been used for filking for many years. Unless I'm mistaken, I seem to remember a filk about Apollo 13 using the tune.

Wilek> Dialect- ROTFL at what the Redneck did to the page. I found a Jive translator a couple of years back and friends and I were ROTFL at what it did to various papers.

T.J. Veil> I see you've been watching B-5. Somewhere I have a copy of AIRNTKILILFWB-5. I love that quote from Ivanova.

<Kyryn waves and the screen goes blank>


Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 10:07:22 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Jaden: From what I remember about the flag when I was in the U.S. Navy, It is folded the way it is to show respect for the flag and also to make it small enough to carry one handed by the carrier in a flag-guard: a trio of men or women, or a mix of the two, detailed to raise the flag at military installations at sunrise, and lower it at sunset.

It also makes it neat and tidy when the officer in charge of an Honor Guard presents it to the survivors of a fallen military man or woman at their funeral. This happened to my mother at my father's funeral, and I couldn't have been more proud when she took it out of that captain's hands, as he told her "On behalf of a grateful nation..."

Here's a little known fact about the flag: If an Honor Guard is accompanied by a rifle squad, to fire a salute to the deseased before "Taps", then the Captain in charge gathers some of the spent rifle cartriges to place inside the flag that is given to the survivors. I know this because I saw the Capt. at my Dad's funeral do this. He even gave me and my sister some of the spare cartriges to keep for ourselves.

Just a little something to remind everyone about today, since I am a veteran, and tonight I think everyone should say a prayer or a word of thanks to all of the brave men and women that defended us and our families, and our freedom.

God bless them and us all...

Maintain and Check Six!
HM Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr., U.S. Navy, Veteran - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 08:30:43 PM
IP: ppp-169.icehouse.net

Greetings all... Have to put on my Director's Hat now. <flips a more serious version of his Big White Hat onto his noggin.>

Noying & Other People Interested in Writing For TGS:

As it stands, we'd love to have more writers for TGS! Saddly, we have to decline to give any invites or do any auditions. We're still mired in the current season of TGS: Gargoyles/Pendragon and Timedancer - and as such, some of my contemporaries on the staff (and I agree with them) feel it would be counter productive to bring fresh writers in at this time.

However, after we begin NEXT seasons breakdowns (no clue as to when those begin), we would begin actively seeking new blood - for the Bullpen, and for the Art Staff I am sure but you'd need to check with the Art Director first - so that this project keeps on truckin'! :)

So, my advice to you all: Keep in the mix, stay cool, and don't forget the twist of lime (Oops! that's for my virgin daquiri!). :) Anyway, I mean stay in touch with us, read the stories from all of the previous two seasons, and don't forget to pester us about it once in a while! <laughs> That's how I got in!

Well, that's all for now! Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [stephenrsjr@hotmail.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 08:19:08 PM
IP: ppp-169.icehouse.net

I'm late so I can only write for a second so...Has anyone thought that they need a Gargoyle on Beast Wars? By the way, does anyone know why the American Flag is folded the way it is? My sister needs to know for a report or something and I have no idea.

Cyrway-That sounds like some interesting reading.

Kitainia-Sorry again about that stupid joke.

Whoa...I'm late got to go..."See" everyone tomorrow!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 08:16:32 PM
IP: pm1-22.sma.silcom.com

I like this pic...*cackles maniacally.*

Well, as suggested by Traveller (who apparently shares a similar problem with me, only that his is fueled by Runts where mine is fueled by Smarties) that I should try to recruit some fanfic writers to help write the Ultimate Gargoyles Fanfiction Deathmatch! *big fanfare as she points to her name.*

What we need is some writers to write some of the skits for each match...it helps A LOT if you know the characters...

At this point, we require a skit to the Tagteam, Clone Wars/Future Tense based characters, Craziest, Most Evil, The Battle of the Beaks, Androids, Lex's Mate, and Pets. Interested? Send me an email, and I'll give you the winners of that competition...and some ideas brainstormed into it...this is a joint collaberation and everyone who participates will be recognised...

I'm kinda falling behind on what I want to do with it...I could sure use the help...and I've already have two skits done, but they're a little out of order...thanx!
Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 07:52:50 PM
IP: gcolor.com

**Zath enters, still limping slightly from the Timewarp accident with T Horror last night.**

SJ> Sorry, that Highlander thing was supposed to go to Rolling Calf.

Doug> Yeah, I noticed the thing about Guod's name right after I posted. I really need to stop posting so late, apparently there were all sorts of things I did wrong last night. It doesn't help that I seem to have inherited a touch of dislexia. It doesn't hurt my reading, but I'm a lousy speller (even if I know the correct spelling I'll occasionally flip groups of 3 or 4 letters within the word while I'm writing it) and you have no idea how hard it is writing down people's phone numbers correctly.

T.J. Veil> I can't picture Xanatos as Rimmer. Maybe Matt would be better.

Scottish Ancestry> As far as I know, I don't have any, but I am 1/4 Irish, though you wouldn't know it by looking at me unless I was wearing a name tag. ; )

DumlaoX> I was just curious, but did you ever find anything about that ice cream place called ColdStone's?

Robby> No, Thailog Horror knows how to do the Timewarp. He just has the problem of occasionally getting his left and his right mixed up. Maybe it was some glitch in the cloning process, but then again, he's less than a month old so maybe he's just going through an awkward stage.

I just ran the CR through the Dialectizer set to Redneck, and boy does it look funny! The only problem is that it seems to be somewhat overly fond of the phrase "Fry mah hide!" The page claims new dialets are on the way, I wonder if one of them will be a "stuffy nose" dialect.

Okay, I guess that's it for now. Kitty's real life counterpart is mewing to go out, so I better go let her out or she'll claw down the house. Bye all.

**Zath limps out muttering about how the previous cat wasn't so demanding and this one better mellow with age...**
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 06:50:54 PM
IP: ns8-14.viptx.net

(Jim Noying is about to enter the room, when somebody grabs him from behind, and tosses him in large bag. Next thing Jim knows, he feels the familiar takeoff of a plane...)

I can write, keep deadlines, pester fans and keep my mouth shut. And I'd love to write a TGS story. But I'd have to be invited first odviously. But then why would anyone invite me to write when they haven't read my stories? I guess they'd have to read an e-mail of one of my stories, decide they liked it, and then invite me to write a TGS story... (Hint hint)

Highlander- Great first movie, the director's cut of the second was decent, the show was mostly well done, and the animated series was horrible.

Firestorm- "Alone"? Well, I guess thats going to be the guest story of the week... Whats it about and where is it?
And I don't think I've ever heard "The sinking of the Fitzgerald"...

Deuce- No wonder I couldn't find it...

Coyote- You guys are worried about warranty? In the middle of all that?

Kitainia- Your opinion on the Puck joke was the same as mine! Spiffy! I knew it was bad when I did it, but still, there HAD been a request...

Jaden- Melting eyes? Eww...

Zath- Thailog Horror still needs Timewarp lessons? Hmm...

SJ- Have fun studying that body...

Cyrway- Actually, Raiden's shout in MK2 was a bunch of nonsense according to the programmers of the game. What he says is open to interpretation, "Get back in the car" is just the common one...

(Jim is let out of the bag, and sees Thailog standing before. In typical villain fashion, Thailog outlines his entire plan to Jim. "I'm going to make some evil clones of you. If you can annoy even me, an evil you is SURE to create problem..." And so, at least part of Thailog's current plan is revealed...)
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 06:44:27 PM
IP: spider-wb034.proxy.aol.com

** runs in **

DUMLAOX> Yes, I got it, and it sounds great. Thanks again.

** runs out **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 05:12:39 PM
IP: ppp141.connect.ab.ca

I have no idea why, but right now I feel so tired. And it doesn't help that I have a class to attend in 40 mins. Hopefully I can catch a few mins of zzzz's.

ROLLING CALF-- We do plan these things out. We plan out who attacks who, where, when, what occasion, etc. All well orchestrated really.

DEUCE-- Working on that little HTML trck as well. I learn more stuff about the code everyday, so don't be surprised if you see nifty tricks on the TGS site every now and then.

BTW, did ya get the mp3 you wanted? Just curious. I'm thinking of making out a complete list of all the mp3s I have and CDs I can rip for songs so I can post it here on the net. And Illegal is still searching for the Loreanna McKennit song The Mummer's Dance. Not to worry.

GARGS ON IRC-- Dedicated #gargoyles channel on ChatNet. I'm there almost every night.

Now for a well needed nap. Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 04:25:18 PM
IP: dhcp53.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Snow? yeah it did that yesterday, but it's all gone now. It's warming up too. Probably above 40 degrees (Farenheight) right now. I can't complain. We're already a third of the way through November and haven't had a substantial snowfall yet. Of course, I'm probably jinxing myself by saying that.

Mandi > You're puting physics ahead of fic? How could you even consider doing that? ;-)

Red Dwarf/Gargoyles > I'm starting to picture the cast now... Lex as Kryten, Brooklyn as Cat, Broadway as Lister, Angela as Kochanski, Xanatos as Rimmer, and Owen as Holly.

Thought for the day:
"No boom today, boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow.... What? Somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Sooner or later, BOOM!"
T. J. Veil - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Ames, IA
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 04:02:11 PM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

**WE INTERRUPT THIS COMMENT ROOM TO BRING YOU THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT: SPOILERS FOR TGS AHEAD**

"The Scottish Play" was excellent! It really did seem like an episode on TV playing in my head. And it had just enough drama and slightly romantic moments to keep this Hopeless Romantic happy! Great job, TGS staff! :)
**SPOILERS ARE DONE. WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMENT ROOM.**
Ravyn Maza
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 03:49:39 PM
IP: svm-ts2-19.c2i2.com

Whoo-hoo! It snowed last night! No, it was NOT a caffiene induced hallucination, there's real snow out there! (For those who didn't chat w/ me last night, I drank about six huge cups of really strong tea, and was bouncing all over the 'net until about 3:00).

SCOTTISH ANCESTRY> My grandmother is a Robertson, and I've got a 95-year old book called "The Tartans of Scotland" that shows all the cool tartans and histories of most of the clans of Scotland. Very, very neat. (If anyone would like their tartan scanned, I can try and get it to you).

I don't think I commented on The Scottish Play yet, so I will: IT ROCKED! It reminded me of a good episode: humour, drama, mythology, and MacBeth showing a human side. Wish we could get episodes like that more often....

Well, I should go and install the new software I have. Theoretically, it will help me make heads and tails of cascading style sheets. *snicker* Well, miracles happen. Bye!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 02:49:40 PM
IP: ppp088.connect.ab.ca

Mercedes> With Zaphiro it might be more specific that Zaphiro took after Kulkulkan (It's one of many ways to spell it) From Mayan mythology. You can find plumed serpents in mythologies ranging all over the Americas. From the Incas in South America, up to the the Southwest indians. But yes, I've noticed the similarities too.
Taleweaver - [rdfootman@csupomona.edu]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 02:14:54 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89

Whew! I have a lot of catching up to do!

Coyote> Thanks for your suggestion on cheering my Lonesome Kicker up! I think it lifted his spirits a little. Thanks! And I never knew that you could pronounce names different ways and get different nationalities...wow!

Deuce> Snow?!? I live in Arizona, pal...but seriously, I really wish that this year would be a white Christmas. Every once in a while we get snow around these parts...and as for temperatures, I'm pretty spoiled: I start freezing if it's anywhere below 60. Perfect temperature for me is anywhere above 80. Another Arizona thing. :)

Heather> You're always welcome here. I was once an outcast, and a very lonely one too. Just stick it out and things will eventually work out, you'll see. And if they don't, you can still talk to us here. *hugs* :)

Wilek> "The Dialectizer" is so much fun!!!!! Thanks for finding it! I've been running just about everything I can find through it, and I've been laughing my head off! Hee-hee! :)

Doug> You're related to _the_ Robert the Bruce?!? Oh, wow!!!! That's really cool! I have no clue who I'm related to because of my stupid adoption thing, but the family I live with is distantly related to Francis Marion, a.k.a. the Swamp Fox.

All right, I'm off to read the new TGS ep and Coyote's latest! See ya'll around! :)
Ravyn Maza
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 02:00:16 PM
IP: 207.204.224.19

**Mandi comes in, looking exhausted.**

Sorry it's been so long, but I HATE REGISTRATION! Well, it is my own fault for deciding on a double major and then still trying to study abroad in Scotland for a semester. But I'll pull it off somehow. I *really* want to go if I can. (I'll probably be the one looking for Castle Wyvern while my friends go, "Um, Mandi....")

**SPOILERS for "The Scottish Play" even though it's been a few days**

I'll just have to repeat everyone else who's commented on the new episode by saying that I loved it! **cheers and claps for Missy** After the last few eps of the Unseelie creating some chaos here and building forces there, it was a nice departure to focus on a conflict that they weren't at the root of.

And having Gruoch be at the root of the curse was just so fitting, and heart-wrenching as well.

*snerk* I laughed my head off at Elisa's thought about getting Goliath into a tartan.

Anyway, it was wonderful, and now I'm disappointed because I can't get to the TGS site at the moment.

**SPOILERS END**

Todd--I do remember reading "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow." **shouts for Batya to hear it** BATYA, I LOVED THAT TOO! Hehehe...sorry...caffeine rush.

Coyote--Volume #22 was terrific. I was wondering if Lina would be jealous, and if Demona would try to use that against the Manhattan Clan, and it's great to see a chapter that goes into all those questions that I was mulling over after #21! Of course, now I'm really starting to wonder about Rain... :) Great job!

Spike--Loved the G99 page! Please tell us all as soon as you have a specific date scheduled!

Speaking of which, I've been spending time on fics that I could be spending on an upcoming Physics exam, so I'd better get to work. :)

**Mandi waves and walks out**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 01:32:44 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

Todd: Thanks for responding. I knew that about Halflings, just making sure it was true for Arthur as well. About who taught Morgana, I shall just wait and see.
Doug
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 01:11:12 PM
IP: hil-c45-041-vty208.as.wcom.net

DOUG - How Morgana learned magic is our little secret for now, at least as far as the TGS Universe is concerned. The original legends do give some answers, although I can't guarantee that they're accurate in our take on the Arthurian legend. (Malory says that she learned it in the nunnery where she went to school, after her father's death and her mother's forced remarriage; the French romances say that Merlin was her tutor, and that he even was in love with her at the time).

So is this the way that it happened with Morgana? Or was the truth about how she learned magic (from the viewpoint of TGS) a third business entirely? Time will tell, or we will. Some day. But not now.

As for Arthur being a halfling wizard - it's not very likely, IMHO. I doubt that all halflings are automatically potential magic-workers; in "The Gathering", Oberon asked Titania if Fox had any magic in her, as if to imply that having Titania for a mother didn't make it a foregone conclusion. Genetics and heredity can be unpredictable.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:27:42 PM
IP: pn16-ppp-230.primary.net

**The screen flicks back on. Logan is alongside the Onslaught, trying to bash it in the side with his truck's front end. Doug, who has just finished fixing all the minor damage Gigantic Stan did to the hitch is knocked down as he slams in. Logan pulls back and tries to hit him again, laughing all the time that he won't be fixing this damage to Jammer's vehicle. Jammer, who is still driving the truck, growls and picks up a satchel of C10 plastic explosive from the seat beside him. When the truck gets close enough, he tosses it out and hooks the strap over one of the sideview mirrors. As the truck pulls back again, Jammer presses the detonator, blowing Logan and the enemy truck up. The Onslaught drives on, three bikers still in pursuit. On the hitch, a winded Doug collects himself and turns to make a post.**

Okay, that takes care of that dishonest mechanic jerk. Everyone okay back there? **Everyone in the trailer shouts yes.** Good.

Zath: You've got his name spelled wrong. It's Guod, not Goud. It's my named spelled backwards, pronounced Goo-Odd. You did portray his character right, though. Good job on that one.

Highlander: Connor and Methos were always my favorite characters. I liked the first movie the best. TV series was good, too, but I didn't like Duncan nearly as much as the original McLeod. Oh well, all three will continue to make appearances in my fanfic.

Scottish Ancestry: They've traced my family back to some guy called Robert the Bruce, believe it or not. So if we all decided to claim our heritage, I would outrank all of you. :)

Jackal: Can't wait to read your fanfic, my insane friend.

SJ: Brooklyn's going to Camelot a la Timedancer, not Conneticutt Yankee. He won't start the Industrial Revolution early, get into a fight with Merlin, or anything like that. He's just going to meet Arthur, encounter the Unseelie Court, and then go on a quest with Uwaine, Bedivere, and Percival. Then once again, the Gate will whisk him away. But you should still enjoy it.

Cyrway: I do not like South Park AT ALL. But that was a good pic, for those who do like it. Thank you.

TGS Staff: Just out of curiosity, I am wondering something. I know Morgana's a halfling, that's how she got her powers. But how did she learn so much magic? Who was the Puck to her Alex? Maeve? Madoc? Morrigan disguised as her pet crow? Also if Igraine was a fay, that means King Arthur is also a Halfling. Wonder if that's going to grant him any special skills in the future when and if he finds out (or has he already?). Thanks for any response you give.

That's all for now, later.
**The gum-popping, leather-clad, and body-pierced Brandine tries to get closer to the truck. Elena picks her off with another stream of shots. Spazz leaps off his bike onto the side of the truck and climbs to the top. Stephanie is up there waiting for him. She kicks him in the head and knocks him back to the road below. He falls right into the path of Chip, who hits him. This causes the Sons of Thunder leader's bike to flip over and crush the mohawked Spazz. Chip leaps off, clutching a wounded leg, and shouts, "You'll pay for this, missies!!" Apparently he calls everyone that. But he won't anymore, as Gubio is now aiming the Mech's laser guns at him. In a few brief seconds, they fire and Chip is reduced to a steaming pool of slag. Having taken out all their pursuit and recovered Coyote's tank, the Ravens drive on. Doug climbs back into the cab and asks Jammer, "All present and accounted for?" "That were in the truck when it started, yes. I haven't been able to get through to Kitainia." Doug looks very worried to hear that as the screen fades out. To be continued.**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:18:20 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zoq-vty113.as.wcom.net

Short post but wanted y'all to know the bug about the broken links to season 1 eps has been fixed.

Enjoy!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:46:49 AM
IP: dhcp63.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Well, it ain't Lemmy...

SNOW?! WHAT IS SNOW?! *gasp!* White stuff...powdery...cold...sorta like crytalised rain in below freezing temperatures...AND THE BEST OBERON-BE-DAMNED TIME OF THE YEAR!!! *revs her T-Cat.*

Heh...

TMV> This is not a date chat...take it to L'Hotel Chat...

Coyote> Um...sorta like Rayden in MK2 shouting "Get Back In The Car!"? Weird...usually, when I run it through the Mac Sound, it comes out "A my kat her in See are way."

Mercedes> Hi, Sis...heh, weird...

Coyote again> The Clarks were Scot, and so were the Malcolms (my mother's grandmother's side.). And yes, we have traced it back to me being a distant decendant of Macbeth...at least, that's what my grandmother had said.

Coyote yet again> I love Smarties...100% sugar...and I drink my tea black...

"I'm Sorry"> On a lighter note, here's a pick on an alternate universe....though it's not the Evil Alternate one I've been teasing everyone about...

The Rolling Calf> I like Cyrway for that flare...that's why nearly everyone at college called me...too many Amys for my taste...someone says "Amy" and seven girls answer...

Dumlaox> Oh, is that all? Good writer...I can do that...keep deadlines...I'm pretty good at that...pester fans...? Ask Traveler...eep...keep my mouth shut? Um...I think everyone knew I killed off Brooklyn before I even posted "No Mouth"...damn...and I heard Alison pronounce your name over the phone...it's pretty interesting...

Deuce> Only 10c? Hmph...still doesn't beat the snowmobiling in OF weather with jeans and my letter jacket...include a wind chill factor of...I was going about 75 mph across Lake St. George...

Doug> Thank you! *Wagner, Caligo, Brooklyn, and Gecko run out, giving Cyrway big hugs and congratulations...until she pulls out a mirror to reveal what style they're drawn in...KLIK my name...*

Crossovers> I think the greatest would be Gargoyles vs. Red Dwarf...

*Gecko storms in, dressed fashionably, with his hair slicked back and in a ponytail. He now sports fangs.*

"And why, pray tell, do I have to be the Cat?"

That was the boredom relief comic, not a cross over.

*Gecko grumbles, pulls something out of his pocket, and slaps a shiny "H" on her forehead, and storms out.*

I could choose to be whiny right about now...

As for the Scottish Play...I loved it! It's good to see Gruoch once more...and an interesting twist...

Well, then, sally forth! *suddenly, a white Cavalier with black trim does a parking job that the Blues Brothers would have been proud of. Brooklyn sticks his head out of the driver's window, his hair cut short save for three or four dreadlocks in the back.*

"C'mon, Cyrway, we've got too much stuff to do as it is without you schmegging around here!"

All right already! *grumbles as she pulls him out of the driver's seat. He ducks into the back as she takes the wheel. With a chitty-chitty-bang-bang, the Cavalier takes off, and the end credits and music to Red Dwarf plays in the background.*

To Be Continued...?


Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:37:39 AM
IP: gcolor.com

**Sevarius Jr. and Frankie have finally caught up with the rest of the team.**

Rolling Calf: DON'T DO THAT! Man, you nearly gave me a heart attack. There's all kind of weird things in here....

Temperature: Me, I love warm weather. I actually, for real, have a bizarre medical condition where my body temp is legitimatelly a point or two below the average human. I don't know why that is. Instead of 98.6, I'm like 97.6, always. Cold weather bugs me (don't worry, I'm not a mutant...I think.)

Doug: I too one had a creativity demon as to what it'd be like if Brook went to Arthur's court, a la "Conneticut Yankee." Can't wait to read your version :)

Zath: Um, I'm having a brain fart here. When did I talk about Highlander?
I'll just talk about it now. I loved the first film; it was a real interesting concept, a whole subspecies of immortals living among us. (Plus one of my fave character actor baddies, Clancy Brown, did a great job as the psycho immortal). The other movies....weren't that great. But I liked the TV show. And I totally agree with you about the spin off. I never liked Amanda? Give the spin off to Methos, or somebody like that.

TMV: Hey, you want a date? Well, I have a lovely young lady back in my lab that is dying to go on one with you. (But for the love of God, don't mention her stitches. Or the extra row of teeth. Or the fact that she has two heads. She's a wonderful girl, but she's kinda sensitive, okay?)

Jackal: TEASE! C'mon, I've been waiting for one of your fics for ages! I can't wait any longer!

**SJ wanders over to Wilek, who's in the autopsy poking a very strange, _not human_ body with the Sharp Stick.

"Oh wow!" SJ exclaims. "Is that thing an alien?! I always wanted a better look at one of those." He moves closer.
"SJ!" Wilek shouts. "Ewww! Don't--Don't touch that! It's got stuff coming out of it, and--GOD! Now look what you did! The body's leaking everywhere!"
"Hey, all in the name of science."
The rest of the team stare on in disgust as Wilek trys to get SJ to stop studying the body....**
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 09:49:04 AM
IP: 129.174.56.168

TMV- dude?? What the hell?!! Makin us Ga folks look bad.., comin to a gargoyle room to talk to women? I can give ya a password for that kinda s**t. Jess..., how have yall been?!! And no I'm not a country hick! I am very gothic, thank you! hehehee, soon i'm gonna have my fan fic up..., to those of you who wanna see how my mind works... It won't be pretty! Very original is how i'll describe it, and very evillll, heheheheee I'm gonna start yall of easy though.., then get progressivly darker..., it's not just mind numbing nonsense, you may actually learn something..., it's about character growth, awwwwww!! But I'll tell ya more about it later..., I'm gettin IMed like a mutha.......
Jackal - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Ga, usa
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 08:35:53 AM
IP: spider-te024.proxy.aol.com

Zath>> Yes, you can still submit names for the Lonesome CowGarg Without A Name contest. *L* I'm still partial to "Rowdy" myself but what can I say? I'm his momma.
Spike
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 08:11:34 AM
IP: dal-as2-1045.cmpu.net

MERCEDES - I also suspected that there was some link between the legendary flying serpents of Central American mythology and Zafiro.

BTW, to all of you who liked "The Scottish Play", you might be interested in reading (once the archive gets put back up again) Batya Levin's "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow", an independent Gargoyles fanfic about what Macbeth was doing between 1057 and 1994, that includes her own take on his encounter with the Shakespeare play. It's also a good one.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 07:18:35 AM
IP: pn4-ppp-162.primary.net

**(Somewhere in Thailog's secret base) Goud is watching a live video feed from a hidden camera in the CR. The screen shows Zath entering followed by Thailog Horror. "Hey, boss, there's something here I think you should see."
"This better be important," mutters Thailog as he stalks over to where Goud is seated. As he looks over Goud's shoulder, the screen shows T Horror sitting on the floor, feeding small chunks of the recently deceased bikers to Kitty, while Zath begins making responses.**

Gator names> Brutus and Cleopatra sound like good gator names, and I'm okay with Nathaniel as long it's not after Nathaniel Hawthorn (I really hated The Scarlet Letter, and because I moved right after my sophomore year, I ended up having to read the stupid thing again in my junior year due to differences in the curriculum).

Sevarius Jr.> <<That movie *Will* go down as a classic , as long as they don't rape the theme any further.>> Too late. I hear there's supposedly a 4th movie due out in 1999. And why did they have to make the spin-off series about Amanda? I would have watched it if it was about Methos because he was cool, but I always thought of Amanda as just an obnoxious character whose only purpose was to cause problems for Duncan. It's also pretty stupid that they called it "Highlander: the Raven", when Connor and Duncan were the Highlanders because of where they came from, not because they were Immortal. I guess the TV execs thought the public wouldn't be smart enough to recognise what it was without the word Highlander in the title (the exact same reason Red Star Rising was changed to Dragon's Eye when it was published in the US). **T Horror smacks Zath. "You're ranting."
Zath blinks. "Sorry, I guess I was."**

Mercedes> I seem to recall seeing reading something supporting that idea in the Ask Greg Archives, but I can't be certain.

Heather> I hope things work out for you and you find some better friends in real life. We can always be here for you, but I think it might be better in you also have someone who can be there for you physically as well as in spirit. (not to mention that hanging out here too much has been proven to drive people crazy. Just look at me, and I've only been here about a month ; ) ) By the way, if it will make you feel any better, feel free to add your pseudo-friends and Mr. Psycho Stalker Guy to the RP and do nasty things to them. It's very cathartic. : ) Also, congradulations on your birthday present. I hope you have tons of fun in Dallas.

**Zath runs out of things to say and begins to do the Timewarp with T Horror. Unfortunately, TH gets his sides mixed up again, jumps to the right instead of the left, and ends up stepping on Zath's foot. As the screen shows Zath rolling around on the floor in extreme pain and TH getting all embarrassed and flustered, Thailog angrily puts his fist through the monitor. He is about to smash the remains of the monitor into little teeny-tiny broken pieces when he suddenly pauses with his fist in the air. "Well," he purrs, an evil grin spreading across his face, "perhaps two can play that game. Goud, fetch me Sevarius..."
(to be continued)**
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 03:36:10 AM
IP: ns1-10.viptx.net

If any of the following words are misspelled it's because I was catching up on all the latest CR comments and my eyes melted from reading so many. The latest TGS was excellent. Now I just have to impatiently wait for the next one. I'm tapping my foot already.

Wilek Nereus> I was the one who asked about What if/ alternate universe stories. Imagine my surprise the next night when everyone told me to read "I'm Sorry" it's so good I can't believe I havn't heard about it before.

TMV> Can you say "WAY Wrong place"? Try ICQ.

Fire Storm> Once it got so windy here I all I could think of saying was "AUNTIE EM!!!! AUNTIE EM!!!! IT'S A TWISTER!!!! IT'S A TWISTER!!!!!!

Temperature> All I can say is this-Las Vegas + 120 degrees +
Chips and dip + a car ride = a very messy sidewalk (if you know what I mean and I know you do). Other than that the weather neither hot nor cold really bothers me...much.

Now about RP, I've decided to give it a try. I've got a character and villian and I've already told Kitainia about them. Since it took me forever to write about them in detail...I'll just use key words and phrases. Mutant Werewolf...made by mad/evil scientist...amnesia...could have been human...usually forced to wonder and hide to survive...can become more stronger and animalish, but the more animal means less intelligence.
Now all we have to do is figure a way to get this guy going.
Well I got to go put some ice on my eye sockets.
See Ya

Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 01:51:12 AM
IP: pm1-7.sma.silcom.com

Short RP aside: I have plans, so please for now nobody try to save me. Okay?
Kitainia
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 01:32:12 AM
IP: hil-c45-063-vty147.as.wcom.net

**The screen comes back on. Kitainia swoops down behind the little guy who was riding with Gigantic Stan and sticks something in his bike's tailpipe. It explodes, taking out both him and the bike as Kitainia flies back up into the air. Meanwhile, Shauna has managed to shoot a tow-rope onto Coyote's damaged tank and Gubio is now using the mech's hydraulic winch to pull it back inside. Kitainia turns to make a post.**

Okay, let's see. We've got Hog-face, Bully (both of whom died in ways appropriate to their nicknames), Little Mosey, and Gigantic Stan. Just Chip, Blake, Brandine, Spazz, and Jacky to go, and that will take care of the bikers.

Coyote: Glad we don't have to worry about that evil ex of yours any more. Doug and I both loved the cybercomic. Shauna's been sent an e-mail from me about it, she'll later make her feelings known. That was one bad father. Rocky and Jasmine were both good heroines, I have to read the rest of the story to know more. Now, some comments on your latest G:CM work :
(Spoiler Warning)
Good job on this one, I liked the development on Lina. Elisa's appearance was nice, too. Perfect charecterization on Demona. Just two concerns. One- has Demona really made Samson evil in thought as well as deed? I mean, he was so sinister when interrogating Lina that I am starting to worry about him. Two- what is Rain's story? I know he was in the forest on Avalon, he lost his memory, and all that, but who is he really? How did he get there? I would like to know. All in all, another bit of good work. Keep it up.
(End Spoilers)
Too bad you didn't get any more pics done. Maybe next time. :)

Heather: We are your friends, they are not. I think that's clear by now. If you want to talk to us about anything, feel free.

DumlaoX: Sigh...Hope you people enjoy taunting us. BTW, I went by the main TGS site today. I was unable to access all the first season eps for Pendragon, Gargoyles, and Dark Ages. Just when I wanted to enjoy good stories again. Sigh... You might want to fix this bug.

Robby: My real opinion? Okay, in two words, it stunk. It was very dumb, totally expected, and I didn't like it. Hope your feelings aren't hurt too much.

TMV: Welcome to the CR, wonder if you have anything constructive to say. If you need a date, please go elsewhere. As far as I know, everyone in here is either too old for you or already committed to someone else.

TRC: Glad you're alright. I was SO worried.

Mercedes: Several Gargoyles fans have already made that speculation. It is quite possible. Thanks for once again pointing it out. Welcome to the Comment Room.

That's all for now, later.
**Kitainia swoops down towards the bike carrying Sons of Thunder Blake and Jacky. In the same instant, Elena fires from the back of the truck with her AK-47, hitting the Fat Boy's gas tank. An explosion is created which throws both the bad guy bikers off. Since neither is wearing a helmet, they are both killed when they hit the road headfirst. Kitainia sighs and shakes her head giving Elena a thumbs-up. The Hispanic girl returns it and then ducks back to reload. Chip, Brandine, and Spazz continue to circle the Onslaught, as Logan's truck keeps in pursuit. Kitainia meantime glides back toward the truck containing Rodney and Felix, intent on taking them out. Halfway there, she is caught by Rodney, who leans out the window and gives her a double-tap with his Smith and Wesson to the chest and each wing. Kitainia screams and falls to the ground. Felix stops beside her and Rodney gets out to pick her up. The Onslaught heads on down the highway, too occupied with the remaining pursuit to give assistance. Rodney tosses the unconscious Kitainia inside his truck's cab, gets back in, and says something to Felix. They break off pursuit and turn onto a back road. "To be continued" appears on the screen as it goes blank.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 01:25:20 AM
IP: hil-c45-063-vty12.as.wcom.net

Has anyone outside of Michigan ever heard the song "The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald"?

Around here, it is almost a part of growing up.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:59:50 AM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

Coyote: Does airlifting mean throwing them in the air and letting the gale outside carry them accross the lake? :)
Ok... so it was a little unfair. 94.7 DOES play it every Saturday and Sunday, after all.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:55:40 AM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

Fire Storm: A little unfair, since you're a fellow Michigander, but the 30 are yours. Name your flavor, and they'll be airlifted to you shortly.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:48:06 AM
IP: modem66.i-is.com

Coyote: the song "The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald" <SP>
Note of local intrest: It went down on November 10, 1975, and the weather conditions at the site are nearly identical today (11/10/1998) as they were when the freighter sank.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:42:38 AM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

That was the Cockney dialect, BTW.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:32:23 AM
IP: modem66.i-is.com

Quickie to Cyrway: I just ran the WCC page through the dialectizer, and for some weird reason it gave you a nickname: "you can't raise yer knees wivout a joanna." Somebody want to explain what the hell this means?!
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:31:46 AM
IP: modem66.i-is.com

Coyote: The wind here was FIERCE! I went out a few times and I was reminded of that scene in Mary Poppins!
Power stayed on, but at night I was able to see the flash of exploding transformers.

Actually, my grandmother has traced my family line back into Scottish history. Clan Macloud <SP?>, Also, I am traced back to the wife of some king (She died before having any kids. Sister of someone that DID have kids.)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:56:40 PM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

Just the odd comment: I'm inb a Native Societies of America class and we were discussing the Aztecs when it occured to me. Do you think Zaphiro, of the Guatemala Clan, is based on the legendary Quetzaqoatl, the winged serpent of Aztec mythology?
Mercedes - [chimura@geocities.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:49:53 PM
IP: 155.42.27.121

**The screen lights up to reveal the Onslaught continuing being chased. Suddenly Coyote's tank flies out of the rear end, firing one shot as it goes through the air before landing. The turret shot sends a nine inch shell through the engine of Kim's attack chopper, blowing it up, No way she's got a contingency for THAT!!**

Yeee-haw! Turn us around, Buick, we've got some catch-up to play!

<"Arf!"> **The tank careens in a huge 180, skids for a moment on the pavement, then catches traction and speeds along behind the Onslaught.**

All right! We don't have to worry about Kim any more, guys! Now that I'm in a better mood, I'll make some replies ... it was getting *hot* in that trailer!

New fic: Wait no longer. Click my name link to read the new volume, "Green." And no, it has nothing to do with Clan Guatemala.

Kitainia: Happy to oblige Shauna. If she wants, I wrote an ish of my cybercomic about a bad father, I'd love to have her opinion on it:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/MoHeatStories/story11.html

Cyrway: Scottish? Didst thou say the magic word?!

**composes self.**

Wow. What clan do you have ties to? Is it one that's supposed to be a mortal enemy to mine (just about everyone's)? (FYI, my mother's side has blood ties to Clan MacGregor (yes, Rob Roy's clan), whose tartan was banned from Scotland after a bloody takeover of the lands belonging to Clan Colquhoun and the ensuing slaughter of Clan Colquhoun. And I know this only because my grandmother is a Scottish clan war buff.)

Weather: Well, "The gales of November came early" (30 cybercookies to whoever knows the origin of that) here in Michigan. I'm listening to the news, and they're saying that up north (around Sault Ste. Marie) they have hurricane-force winds, which have probably closed down the Mackinac Bridge. (They do that now, after six years ago they had a woman get blown off the bridge in her Yugo. And they never recovered the body ... or the car! Creepy.) Anyway, the weather here's all-around crappy, high winds and rain. :P

Cyrway again: Smartie high? Well, that explains a lot ... (j/k!!)

Heather: I know, it's late, but we're all friends here. And way to go on that convention thing. Wouldn't you know it, all of us sending you con info, and your 'rents are taking you to one anyway! How strange life can be sometimes ... ;)

Lee Ann: Welcome to our little den of insanity!!

Wilek: I did check out that dialects page last night, ran some of my own stories through it. It's very weird to read Rosanna saying "duh ..."

DumlaoX: Thus far, according to your criteria, I qualify!

TMV: Uhhh ... you want the "desperate single male losers" CR three doors down ...

Fire Storm: Just curious ... how much trouble did you have driving today? The wind's blowing Lexington all over the place!!

Anyway, must continue.

***RP!!***

Bring us alongside, we'll try to take out some of the bikers!

<"Hey boss, you'd better take a look at this!">

What? **looks and sees thick black smoke pouring out of the tank's tailpipes** What's that?!

<"Uh, you remember the nitrous tank?">

You didn't ...

<"No, I didn't reconnect it. But I still wanted it to go faster, so I put some octane booster in the last refuel.">

You know you're not supposed to do that! You'll void the warranty!!

<"Too late for that.">

**The tank backfires, skidding and losing control. Buick desperately tries to guide the tank's path back into the trailer of the Onslaught. To be continued ...**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:45:56 PM
IP: modem66.i-is.com

ROBBY> It's on a couple UnderNet servers, but only on weekends. Grr. So now I'm in the S8 chat room (anybody, click my name to join me; I'll be there for a while).

** runs back to chat room **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champs, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:45:46 PM
IP: dialin005.connect.ab.ca

Wilek: Oh, and I bet no one even MENTIONED "Alone", eh? <G>
Fire Storm
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:40:06 PM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

Fire Storm re "I'm Sorry"> Uh, that's kinda my fault. Someone brought up alternate-universe fanfics and I mentioned "I'm Sorry".
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:38:02 PM
IP: tnt-1-189-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Doug: True, only 2 cities were hit by nukes, but with the atsmopheric detonation tests and other tests done by the US and USSR, the whole planet had a helluva lot of radation on it.

I'm Sorry was truly a good fic. It is easy to see why Aaron is now a member of the TGS staff.
It is also easy to see why people like me and most of the rest of the fan fic writers will never even get a CHANCE to be a part of TGS. We are trying to compete with the best here!
Why was this fan-fic brought back into the CR view again, bonnieway?

Weather: As far as I am concerned, it's shorts weather if it is above 5 degrees, and I am generally comfortable up 100 degrees. Thank Michigan for that!

JMV: This isn't a AOL user chat room!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:34:09 PM
IP: dhcp189.visitus.net

Hmm, for the gator names Nathaniel, Brutus, and Cleopatra... For some reason, those seem right... Any objections anyone? Again, these are the ROOM'S pets...

Deuce- You just mentioned something about ... "#gargoyles IRC room".. For future reference, where the heck is it?

TMV- Excuse me? And you are in here why?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:31:32 PM
IP: spider-te082.proxy.aol.com

OK, screw the modifications. I'll just have to manually do all this stuff. Quick, easy replies to a few ppl:

WILEK> Nope.

TMV> This is not a personals ad. Obtain a life/girlfriend somewhere else.

DUMLAOX> That new modification looks neat. Hey, how about using a little DHTML to change the color of the links on mouse-over? (I'm working on figuring that out right now...).

Oh, and I'll also be in the #gargoyles IRC room tonight (gotta install a client first, so I'll be in in about 10 minutes). Anyone care to meet me there?

** leaves to look through HTML resources and find his free stuff CD with mIRC on it **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:00:13 PM
IP: dialin005.connect.ab.ca

(SJ and Franky are seen (or not seen as the case may be ) walking brisquely through the corridors of Area 51 . The aforementioned creature is seen following them , moving in the shadows only . The creature accidentally kicks over a soda can and Franky whirls around and prepares to cave in the beings skull with a large fist , it is stopped in midair however (with some effort) by a powerfully muscled , furry , clawed arm . As SJ prepares to fire on the creature , a deep throaty voice comes from it ." Relax you two , its me , I recognised your heat signatures after I dug out and followed in the darkness , besides , light hurts this form . "
"Whew " , they say in unision , " Ok lets keep moving " .

**Spoilers**

A most intrigueing story . Thank you Merlin Missy . Well written , and captivating . Nice Story development also .

**Spoilers End**

TGS : What did you guys do ? Sit down and think out a plan of attack for the Unseelie to use ? Or do you just include ideas that come to mind which you suppose they would be likely to use ?

Merlin Missy : You are watching a TAD too much Highlander . Not that I can blame you , That movie *Will* go down as a classic , as long as they do'nt rape the theme any further .

Cyrway : Well , I'll give you this your name has a certain . . .Flair to it . I understand the problem with misprununciation as well . My last nam is Cooke , nuff said .

Deuce : Sorry for my lack of replys to your posts , this problem will be rectified and I as well as everyone else here will try to prevent a recurrence of this unhappy incident .
Would the name "Deuce" happen to come from that movie "Ed" with Matt Le Blanc , as memory serves that was his nickname in reference to the symbol for the fastball . Am I right ?

Temperature - This is yet another of the ways that I have been classified as "Strange" . I can walk around in 95 degree heat and have little problems , but I do prefer a Cool atmosphere over a hot one anyday . Sadly they are fewer and fewer of them each year . AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! . GLOBAL WARMING , WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !!! .

Lee Ann : (Best Egor impression, directed to DumlaoX) -
Lhhook mhaster , vhe have a vheeesitor . Corny I know But I could'nt help myself , Welcome .

Heather : They were'nt true friends , believe me I know what it feeels like to be treated as a friend for a long period of time , then dumped like a sweet that's fallen in the dirt . The sad truth is that they're are such people out there who do'nt appear to care that you supported them through 13 years of your lives , that you there when you they were blue and tried to bring a little sunshine to the meetings , (gets pinched ) , Sorry , did'nt even realize I was ranting there .

Gator Names : Nathaniel , Brutus and Cleopatra .

(The trio are joined by Jake and Teri , and after a brief check on they're condition , they start making there way towards the rest of the team .) To be Continued .
The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:20:34 PM
IP: 208.11.41.203

any females 17-19 want to chat with 18 male
TMV
STONE MOUTAIN, GA, UNITED STATES
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:17:57 PM
IP: user-37kbt54.dialup.mindspring.com

DumlaoX I'm still getting a page not found on my Elisa gif. <sniff>
Cute trick to scroll down and get the sections listed on the bar at the bottom of my page.

Heather - HUGS. We're here to listen.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 09:45:04 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

WEBSITE-- Just a little post to let everyone know that the little JavaScript thing I put on the index page of the site is now on the rest of the site's sidebars as well.

Like I said before, not exactly something radically new but something I wanted to put there anyway :P

Any bugs with the site? Please report them to me. Also, work on the CGI script is coming along nicely. Just need to wait for some things to come in first then I can try to work some magic.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 09:17:46 PM
IP: dhcp56.oac-commons.ucla.edu

T.J.> Nope. Like I said, there's a hint on my page. Look REALLY, REALLY hard for it.

DUMLAOX RE: TEMPERATURE> I hate you. *grins*

ROBBY RE: AIRNTKALFST> Actually, I was referring to the book.

HEATHER> *thumbs up* Tres cool! Dallas is a very nice city; a little hot, but very awesome. Have a GREAT time!

*deep breath* OK, here goes. If this post looks funny, it's not my fault. Actually, it is; I'm trying a little alternate-universe... I mean, alternate-browser stuff. SO if this has a wrong image and color, no I'm not on crack.

** runs out, crossing fingers... **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, City of Champions, Canada
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 09:15:41 PM
IP: ts1395.connect.ab.ca

(Jim Iza Noying walks in with his sister, Kari Kanbea Pest. Jim is a bit baffled. "So, explain to me again what this SNOW thing is?")

We started reading MacBeth in school today. 'Nuff said. (Wierd how these coincidences seem to work out...)

Heather- Ah shoot, I'd meant to post before you read the comments... Ah well... We ARE your friends here... Congrats on the B-Day present by the way...

LEE ANN- HELLO! I was new here too, like a month ago, and now everybody is nice to me. Usually. I ranted earlier this week about getting no attention, but I'm over that now, since everyone was nice enough to appologize about the matter...

Wilek- That IS fun...

Kitania- Go ahead, full opinion of the Puck joke... (For those of you who have forgotten, in my MD/Gargs thing last week, I had Owen turn into Puck during a hockey game...)

Fluer- Fine, you're excused...

Matt- Had no idea an AIRNTKALILFWG thing had already been done. Don't feel nearly as bad about getting no comments on that now. It needs to be posterized.

Deuce- Which Star Trek AIRNTKAL poster? There's 4... Mine includes the line, "If it can't be fixed, just ask Scotty." Which is the entire reason I bought it...

Cyrway- See Jim's question at the start to learn my opinion about snow...

Merlin Missy- Highlander fan eh?

Zath- I'm relieved to know the gators are fine... I was worried I had killed them... But only the CR Lawyer gives them gas...

(Kari is still trying to explain to Jim what snow is, and he just isn't getting it. Never seen it in his life. Anyone care to fill him in?)
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 08:25:35 PM
IP: spider-we074.proxy.aol.com

Just wondering, when will Dark Ages and Timedancer be starting up again?
Eld
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 08:17:19 PM
IP: chrisreed.ne.mediaone.net

** sniffs ** You guys are the greatest !
** hugs everyone ** I never had ppl be like that to me before in my whole life. I was usually the loner of the class room . And I'm very sentivite ( like if someone hurts my feelings I might be very sad for the whole day ) .

Deuce > That e-mail that you sent to me about the conventions well , my parents have agree to take me to Dallas , Tx for my birthday. It's my birthday present and Leonard Nemoy is going to be there ! And my parents have had tickets for weeks ! They just told me today ! I was so mad !
That's why they were so "secretlive" about somethings lately.
And they are reserved seats !

** smiles and snaps her fingers and is wearing the ( DS9 ) uniform ** Haskett to Defiant , beam me up.

** disappears with a smile on her face **
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 08:11:32 PM
IP: 173-73-253.ipt.aol.com

Hmmm. A few things to post about here. So without further ado...

FIRESTORM-- The package is headed your way. Just slap on the files to the CDs in any order you want. And if you want the file, feel free to make a copy for yourself. BTW, the package is stuffed with popcorn so the cases won't break :P

KITAINIA-- Incorporate all the legends? Dunno. Maybe we will... maybe we won't. Either way, it's one of those things you just have to wait and find out about :)

TO QUALIFY FOR TGS STAFF-- Lesse here. Write up good stories. Perform well under stress. Keep deadlines. Torment the fans to no end. Learn to keep your mouth shut when you're supposed to. Um, so far, that's it.

WRONG NAMES-- I've had a few run-ins of wrong name spelling and pronunciation myself. Even on the net, where the name is actually typed out. As for pronouncing it, some people never know how to do it till they hear it for themselves.

TEMPERATURES-- California. August 1998. 115 degrees F. enough said :)

TIMEDANCER PREMIERE-- No date set yet.

TGS WEBSITE-- Added a little something to the place. OK, not really significant but kinda cool in a little way. Check the index page and just go over the links on the sidebar. Just roll over them and don't click and look at your browser. Like I said, not useful or anything but just a little something something I wanted to add in there.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:36:42 PM
IP: dhcp73.oac-commons.ucla.edu

MERLIN MISSY - So you actually find yourself attending a class on Macbeth at about the same time that your Macbeth-related story premieres on the Internet? Now that's quite a coincidence.

I saw the Polanski film version of Macbeth once, and it has a particularly interesting not-in-Shakespeare ending. In it, after Macbeth is defeated by Malcolm Canmore, we see Donalbain (Malcolm's younger brother in the play and history) riding through the ruins where Macbeth first met the Weird Sisters, when he hears them chanting, and dismounts to investigate.... Sibling rivalry for the throne, anybody? (Incidentally, in actual history, Donalbain did become the next King of Scotland after Canmore's death in 1093).

DOUG - Sounds good - the King Arthur "TimeDancer" story's approaching release, I mean. Incidentally, the name "Through the Ages", by an odd coincidence, was one of a list of names for "rumored 4th season episodes" that was posted about on the 'Net once but turned out to be a hoax. (Other names included "Legacy", "The Demon's Sister", "Order and Chaos", "Through the Mists", "The Apprentice", and "Raven's Game").
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:33:32 PM
IP: pn7-ppp-61.primary.net

Heather > Don't ever feel like you''re alone. Even if those that you thought were your friends dump you, there's always someone willing to be your friend. Everyone in this room for example.

Deuce > I'll take a shot in the dark and say your name comes form Babylon 5. Not sure if I'm right, but there was a character of that name on the show several times.

The Scottish Play > An excellent episode that had the feeling of the original series. Nice job MM.

Creativity Demon > Just had a strange thought on about the Unseelie court. I can just see this conversation taking place.
Maeve: What are we going to do tonight, Madoc?
Madoc: The same thing we do every night, try to take over the world!

Thought for the day:
If you're going to have delusions, you may as well go for the really satisfying ones.
T. J. Veil - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:32:09 PM
IP: welch-roberts-171-165.res.iastate.edu

TGS - 'The Scottish Play' -

Last week, I was concerned that in having an Unseelie Event as the major thing in TGS, it might cause the season to lose focus from the characters to the event itself and degenerate into just a massive crossover where everyone stands around while something happens, kind of like what happenes in any X-Men crossover. Thankfully the last two episodes of TGS have proven this fear unfounded.

Macbeth as you can tell by the picture accompying this post, is my favorite character and seeing some focus on him in TGS was just wonderful for me. Macbeth's hatred of the play bearing his name, and the moments with Elisa and Goliath were very well done. This episode really felt like something we would have seen in the original series. A great job done by everyone involved.

An unrelated to current episode question - Has a premiere date been set for Timedancer?
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:12:04 PM
IP: 144.new-york-02.ny.dial-access.att.net

[Quick reply.]

Doug> Actually, the origin of Raoul's name is a little obscure. In the Sierra computer game Phantasmagoria, there's a critter that was kind of based on the critter from Alien. The Phantasmagoria strategy guide includes an interview with the guy who designed the creature, saying that he named it Raoul. It was too good to resist. ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:09:12 PM
IP: tnt-1-133-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Wilek: Sorry, can't use that name. Stephen RS has already used a name that's so close to it people might get the two mixed up. Oh well, I'm sure a better idea will come along sometime.

BTW, did you name Raoul after Garfield's brother? Just curious, as I've noticed they both have very long necks and wide grins. Later.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:04:09 PM
IP: hil-c45-062-vty27.as.wcom.net

Hel-LO! I'm in a really hyper, really happy, really really good mood today! Yippee! *someone smacks him* Oh, thanks. But I'm still happy.

GREEN BARON> Well, my old web site had little 2 of hearts all over it, but the name actually comes from (or actually, is corrupted from) the name of a TV show. Try an' guess. (Hint on my web site). (Re: my confirmation name): Bang-on!

HEATHER> *gives her a great big hug* In listing your friends, you forgot a few: namely everyone here. I lost my two best friends last month, so I know how you feel. Please trust me when I say the hurt does go away, and you do start to feel better after a while. Plus, people who dump you for a weird reason like that aren't worth losing sleep over. (And remember that e-mail I sent you? The offer's still open.)

LEE ANN> Welcome to our comfortable little corner of insanity!

RE: TEMPERATURES> *laughs at everyone* OK, I think I may have you all beat. I waited at the bus stop for 20 min. today, no hat or gloves, in -10 degree weather! (Keep in mind that is Celsius, but still damn chilly).

Bye!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 07:03:45 PM
IP: ppp059.connect.ab.ca

[Somewhere in Area 51, two guards are standing watch over a biological research facility. Suddenly, they fall dead. Wilek, Miriam, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, all five Doom Commandos, the bikers, and the five Dark Troopers then appear after their Lurk card wears off; apparently Wilek's the one who killed the guards.] I think I just invented the Vulcan death grip. Everyone secure this area; we need a base of operations. Wait...where are SJ and Frankie? <looks at SJ's last post> Uh oh...Someone go after them! [Jake and Teri do so.]

Heather> Your 'friends' at school kicked you out of their group?! <grr> If there's anything worse than a psychopath threatening your friends, it's having friends who betray you. Well, Heather, the friends you have here will never, never pull some stupid snotheaded stunt like that. We're here for good, no matter what. Believe me, if you're not getting death threats anymore, that's not the worst outcome this could have had. Besides, if Shawna and the others abandoned you so readily, they were never really your friends to begin with and you're better off without them. (BTW, RP is a great way to vent. You can kill whoever you want to. ^_^)

Green Baron> <<Oberon vs. Soup Nazi>> LOL! I can just see the Soup Nazi telling Oberon "NOSOUPFORYOU" and Oberon turns him into a chihuahua or something!

Temperatures> I'm a garg, so temps don't really affect me much. Even in my human form, I have an affinity for cool temperatures.

Doug> How 'bout "A Manhattan Gargoyle In King Arthur's Court"? Sort of a tribute to Samuel Clemens' "Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court".

Zath> Glad to see the gators are OK; I like those little critters.

Click my name; this is hilarious. For real fun, use the CR's URL in the blank! :D

[Wilek notices two dead bodies lying on exam tables and covered in white sheets in the next room. No one else is in there...and one of the bodies is obviously something that isn't from Earth. Morbid curiosity draws Wilek into the autopsy room. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 06:58:10 PM
IP: tnt-1-133-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**Zath walks in, carrying Kitty.**
"What's this hear about one of the CR gators being dead?" **Zath sets down Kitty, looks into the moat, and sees the large unmoving body of one of the gators. Zath pokes the gator with the dull end of the Sharp Stick and almost loses an arm. The gator glowers at Zath, blinks once, and then goes back to lying around looking dead.**

Robby> I haven't been ignoring you. I just haven't had anything worth saying. By the way, the gator wasn't dead. He was just sleeping. Don't worry about not feeding them. Reptiles don't need to eat very often. Maybe we can toss in the bad guys from the RP whenever they are oficially dead (I think it was just the lawyer thet gave them gas, not all humans).

Spike> Can we submit multiple names for the lonesome cowgarg, or is it one per person? Right now I can think of 4 that aren't on the list yet.

Deuce> If I'm not mistaken, Cyrway was referencing the crazy French guy in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Click on my name for a sound file of half of it (I couldn't find one with the "I fart in your general direction" part attached, but then I didn't look very hard either).

Green Baron> <<Seinfeld and Gargoyles. Oberon vs. Soup Nazi>> Better yet, Demona teams up with the Soup Nazi in an attempt to kill humans just to be nasty, but her plan fails when the Soup Nazi refused to let anyone have the poisoned soup. Cameo appearances by George and Kramer.

**Zath calls Kitty, saying it's time to go, but Kitty, who is now curled up on top of the sleeping gator, pretends not to hear. Zath leaves, pausing to throw some chunks of mangled clone ninjas to the other two gators.**
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 06:48:45 PM
IP: ns4-06.viptx.net

**Sevarius Jr., who's currently invisible with the rest of the team thanks to Wilek, hugs a wall as a scuttler scurries by.**

Ugh. I've grown to hate those things.

Heather: Let me see if I can get this straight; some loser starts sending you death threats, then when they stop, your friends dump you? What the hell is that? If you ask me, they weren't true friends to begin with. If my friend had trouble like you did, I'd be there right beside them; and no way would I ever do what they did to you.

But don't worry. We're all your friends here. Oh sure, we might be a few miles down the road, but we're only a few clicks away, really. Besides, you seem like the type of person who's so cool, EVERYONE wants to hang with them, so I wouldn't worry about being too lonely.

**SJ escapes from the lab with the rest of the team. Little does he notice, however, the creature that has begun to follow him......**

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 06:33:39 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.webcache.erols.net

**The screen comes on once more. The Onslaught is now being trailed by the trucks and the bikers are alongside it, exchanging shots with the people inside. No one else has died yet, thankfully. Of the remaining seven bikers, four are on one side of the truck and three are on the other. As Doug turns his head to say something from the cab, a really big musclebound biker leaps off the back of his motorcycle and onto the side of the Onslaught's trailer. The short and stocky man riding the bike he jumped off of zooms back a few paces as the big guy climbs into the space between trailer and cab. Seeming not to notice, Doug turns to make a post.**

Lee Ann Hamm: Welcome! I too give kudos to the TGS Staff for all the episodes they made.

Temperatures Relationships: Kitainia and I don't like heat much, but we both have innate cold resistance. We're very comfortable at any temperature 70 to 12 degrees. Guess we're either cold-blooded or very warm inside.

Cyrway: You win the award for craziest person in this CR due to your last couple posts. You, my friend, are insane. But since everyone here is also, welcome. I too would like a copy of "Ambient Anarchists" sent to me when you get it done.

Green Baron: Thanks for the political info. Glad to know Livingston is a good guy. (Or at least your post makes him sound like one.) I too am glad the Gin-Grinch has left Congress. Saw a political column in the paper today laughing about which politician was forced to resign because of the Clinton scandal. It was quite good, I thought. Too bad I forgot the name of the columnist. :)

Fanfic News: Started my first Timedancer fic, "Through the Ages," today. I was going to call it "Next Generation," but the above title sounded better once I fully thought out and outlined the plot. Should be done in a month or less. Hope Chris gets the archive up by then so I can post it and the other two.

Todd will be glad to know that my next fic after this one will be the "Brooklyn at Camelot" one. That should be interesting to write, Maeve will make an appearance and so will King Arthur, Uwaine, Percival, and Morgana le Fay. Just wish I had a better title for it than the one above (in quotes). Anyone have any ideas?

Heather: Hey, I resent that! Haven't we been good friends to you? And I intend to continue. If you need to vent, feel free to e-mail me. Or if you want to do what you want to to those awful people who wronged you, feel free to join our mad RP.

That's all for now, see y'all later tonight. Bye.
**Jammer looks down at the dashboard and says "Doug, I think something's wrong. My sensors say we're losing power in the trailer hitch. That means no ac back there, no stereo..." "Say no more," Doug sighs, looking through the window in the back of the cab and seeing the big biker messing with all the hook-ups on the Onslaught's trailer hitch. "Looks like I got to get that guy off the back of the truck." "Doug, that biker is their biggest fighter, Gigantic Stan! You don't stand a chance against him!!" "You forget who you're talking to, obviously," Doug sighs, opening the truck door and climbing onto the ladder on its side. He then draws his shotgun and swings over onto the trailer hitch. "Hey Stan!" Doug yells. "Get off our truck!" The big biker raises a fist to swing at Doug, but Doug blasts him in the chest and shoves him off to the road below. "Six left," he says to himself, putting up the gun and beginning to reconnect wires as the screen goes blank.**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 05:45:04 PM
IP: hil-c45-025-vty1.as.wcom.net

Kudos to the everyone who makes the stories of The Gargoyles Saga, the truly great ones that they are. The continue series is terrific and you all deserve a round of applause! <claping loudly> I can't wait to get started reading the latest one, The Scottish Play.

Thanks again! <hugs>
Lee Ann Hamm - [lhamm@premier.net]
Baton Rouge, LA, usa
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 05:24:37 PM
IP: amax2-23.eatel.net

Gaah! Forgot to spellcheck. "ove" should be "over" and "however" should be "whoever"
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 05:06:37 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

<Kyryn looks in, no RP>


Heather> You've got friends here! And I've gotta say, people who would kick you out of their group because you aren't getting death threats any more make strange kinds of friends. Friendship is based on a lot of things that the people have in common. True friends will not deny their friendship just because one is or is not in trouble. I for one am glad to have you for a friend, even if it is just ove the net right now.

HUGS

BTW, I'm glad that however it is has apparently decided to leave you alone.

<Kyryn gives Heather a wink and a big grin and leaves.>
Kyryn
Uvalde, Tx
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 04:50:31 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Hi.
Well you guys don't have to worry about me. I was kicked out of my group because the person stopped sending stuff to me and my friends still have. So Shawna kicked me out.
So. I got no one. Shawna and my group were my only friends. Not I don't have any.

** frowns and looks at her book of stories ** The only friends I have now is in my imagination.

** walks out of the room with her hands over her face **
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 04:12:58 PM
IP: 173-73-253.ipt.aol.com

*Merlin appears, coughing, in a puff of octarine smoke. She starts writing on the walls with a glitter pen:*

"Auntie Starsinger: It was there a few days ago, but now it's gone. *pout* For those of you who came in late, 'it' is the page of authors' directories. Public access has gone bye-bye completely. And before anyone asks, no I don't know when the fanfic archive will be back. Last I heard was the beginning of this month, same as everyone else. I do know it's not gone for good, that everything still exists in storage, and that we have backups in case of anything bad, so don't fear. *often feels like a Woman In Black, telling the crowd of fen 'There's nothing to see here.'*"

"Regarding the story, I just wanted to thank everyone for their nice words. If you do find things you don't like, by all means share those, too. *poke Aris*"

"And now for something really weird. I'm taking a Shakespeare class this semester, partially because I love the subject, partially because it'll help raise my GPA in anticipation for application to Yet More Grad School. :P The class is designed differently than the other Shakespeare classes I've taken, in that it focuses primarily on the plays seen by James I and what he would have seen in them. (Ex. "A Midsummer Night's Dream" was performed before him for the first time on January 1, 1604 at Hampton Court, but was written during Elizabeth's reign. "Macbeth" was a close parallel to what might have happened had Guy Fawkes succeeded in blowing up Parliament.) We discuss a different play each week. Three guesses as to what we did last night."

*grin*

"I was good. I didn't print out the story (I did send the prof the URL). I didn't start calling Shakespeare a hack. I didn't point out that the guy in the opera version looked a lot like John Rhys Davies. I did point out that Gruoch was previously married and that her son was Macbeth's stepson. (Thanks to Todd, for reminding me.) I even managed to separate mentally the Macbeth of the play from the Macbeth of history from the Macbeth we know and love, although the latter kept grumbling in my head. I behaved myself and kept quiet until the very end of class, when we were watching the end of another video. A slight spoiler for the play includes Macbeth losing his head. And of course, I said the only thing that could be said at that point ...

"There can be only one!"

*Merlin ducks in memory of the breadsticks, napkins and salt shakers that were hurled in her general direction. She grabs an imaginary salt shaker, throws some over her shoulder, and says "There's no place like home!" Nothing happens.*

"Oh, and to get entirely off-topic, but I do feel like sharing, we had no snow here. We had a wind storm. It twisted all three electrical towers in the city, so from two am to about noon today, Rolla had no power (the campus nuclear reactor sent all its power to the hospital). The water pumps for the city are run on city power. The library's catalogue is computerized. Millions of dollars of state of the art equipment are used every day at this university, but my boss had to drive five miles out of the city limits to find a truck stop on county power so he could get a cup of coffee this morning. The tiny voice inside me who craves natural disaster loved every minute of it."

*Merlin sprinkles the salt again, this time clicking her heels. She poofs into nothingness, leaving behind only a faint scent of oregano and basil.*
Merlin Missy - [mrwilson@umr.edu]
Rolla alias Windy City, Missouri
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 03:54:10 PM
IP: speedo.physics.umr.edu

**A face appears in the darkness. As he moves forward, he is holding a tabby with a white belly and black fur with gray stripes on the other side of his body. It's the Green Baron and Rev. Attila.**

Hello everyone. I've been lurking, so I haven't left. I love you guys too much to do that :)

Kitainia> I imagine that is a tough life. My mother has never remarried and she really can't because the marriage has never been anuled. Actually, my mother would never leave him. My father left, because he wanted to be "happy". He in fact re-married without considering an anulment, becaus ethe anulmet would cost too much and he cared more about his "happiness" more than following the tenets of his faith. This is probably one of the reasons I am so straitlaced and puritanical. He in fact tried to dissuade me from going to Loyola, which makes no sense, since it would only add to my mother's expenses. Maybe, he has trouble admitting that his recent actions are the reason I could't afford to go to CBU. Granted, I love Loyola, except for the pinko Jesuits who don't wear their collars (Granted I am in the College of Business Administration which is more Libertarian than anythig else), and I feel great about my free education and near-free Graduate School education, because of my mother's job. One of my RP characters is based on my father and he may enter the RP soon. I imagine he and Aisil would get along.

Doug> It's interesting that you mentioned Gingrich's successor. The next Speaker os Bob Livingston of Louisiana. He represents the suburbs of New Orleans in Jefferson Parish and the North Shore. His district is only a few miles from my house, so this should be good for Louisiana and the Greater New Orleans area. Bob is also a man who can compromise, but he won't compromise his priciples, and he is genuine and honest individual with a good sense of humour and he can be hot tempered at times, which just means he's human. I am glad Newt resigned. Now, the Democrats will need a new target, but that won't be Livigston :)

Spike> If you think it can get hot in Mesquite, try New Orleans. We have a similar temperature and humidity. I found New York comfortable, though my optimum temperature level is 75-85 F. I ca't wait for Gathering 99. It will be cheaper, I can fly Southwest or take Amtrak, and it will be in the South.

Starsinger> If it's any consolation, my mother is 10 years older than you and I'm the first born.

Deuce> I thought your name had to do with the deuce card, myself. BTW, sice your first name is Simon, is Peter your Confirmation name?

I'm Sorry> Aaron Ziegler should be happy to know his fanfic is such a good debate topic. He also wrote TimeDacer's Requiem, if anyone was curious. I have my own views on execution and all, though I do't beleive ayone should be judged. It is their actions that are being judged, and it shouldn't matter if they are good or bad people, since they must be punished if they broke the law. I believe Karla Fay Tucker was genuine in her change, but I still beleive she should be executed because hse killed someone and that was the sentence received. Unless, her innocence can be proven, then no one has the right to pardon her.

As for Demona, executing her is wrong, because MacBeth has not not done aything to earn such a puishment. Her only option would be to spend her remaining millenia atoning for her sins. As for a differet ending, I'm sorry but that's the way the story was and it is just a story. Maybe in another Universe, I'm Sorry ended differetly, and the Titaic didn't sink :)

Crossovers>
Most amusing. Seinfeld and Gargoyles. Oberon vs. Soup Nazi
Most unusual. Gargoyles and Black Adder

**Green Baron leaves with Attila**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 03:42:06 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102

*"Paranoid" by Black Sabbath blares from an unknonw source as suddenly, two feet of packed snow and six inches of powder dump into the room. There is a roar of an engine as Cyrway bursts into the scene on a black and green 1999 Arctic Cat T-Cat 1000...wearing only a tee-shirt, jeans, and boots.*

I'm MELTING at 77F! When I was in Kansas City in the last week of June, I was roasting in a white tee-shirt and shorts!

*Gecko follows on a ZR 600*

"Yeah, but you were also wearing those boots as well...and a vest. And the tee-shirt was a black Metallica shirt."

Shaddup.

I'd hate to see you guys in a Maine winter....

"This is coming from someone who races sleds wearing the same clothes she wore in Kansas City."

Shaddup...Away from warm weather!!! WE MUST SACRIFICE THE FIRST SNOWMAN TO APPEASE THE SNOW GODS!!! DEATH TO THE VIRGIN SNOW!!! BWAH-HAH-HAH!!!

*She speeds off full throttle into the great white unknown. Gecko only looks at everyone and shakes his head.*

"Smartie Sugar High. Someone at work brought in an industrial-sized bag of 'em this morning..."

*He follows her, though not as fast....*

TO BE CONTINUED?
Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 03:16:44 PM
IP: gcolor.com

Up here in Indiana, we start to complain about the heat when the snow starts to melt. (and we still have a debate about what the sun looks like.)
A man known as Trent
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 03:10:08 PM
IP: 147.226.113.249

Kyryn>> *L* Well, the Texas definition of hot and hot elsewhere is two different things. At G98, we're off on the Central Park tour and people are going on about the heat; turns out it was 77F. Leva Mevis (from Arizona) and I look at each other and go "Gee, I don't even start to sweat until it's 85F!" Mind, this was after a summer of temps mostly over 100F so I thought it was rather cool and breezy in NY.
Spike
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 01:57:04 PM
IP: dal-as3-2087.cmpu.net

While we're on the subject of names... first of all, my screen name is DEUCE, not DUECE. Honest typos, I'm sure. It's pronounced DOOS, and the origin is a secret. (It has to do with a TV show...). My RL name is (now don't laugh, and I've heard enough jokes on this to FILL the room) Simon. It's Hebrew, and as far as I've heard, means "obedient" or "listener". Now, I've got the latter part down, but I dunno about the former....

AIRNTKALILFG> That is very, very cool. Somebody should make a poster of that. Has anyone ever read "All I Really Needed To Know About Life I Learned From Star Trek"? Very interesting, and an awesome philosophy behind it all.

PNEUMONIA> Ew. Yuck. I had a friend who had that once... not a pretty sight.

CYRWAY> Your name is very nice; I like the sound of it. And what was that you preceded your post with? *confused*

MDY> I agree, that would have changed the story dramatically... but as far as for the better, I dunno.

And lastly: Am I wrong, or was "I'm Sorry" the first story on GFW to be posted in HTML format?

** leaves to the sound of a school bell, vowing to return **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Chamipons, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:18:29 AM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net

Wilek> AIRNTKALILFWG (see below) on my site is not the original version, so you may well have seen it somewhere else first, I just liked it and posted a (slightly redesigned) version on my page.

I believe it was originally posted at the Aerie:
http://members.aol.com/patrickat/aerie.htm

Hope this clears up any confusion - I assume most fans will have seen it already, but it's well worth a look if you haven't.

MattDymond - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKTuesday, November 10, 1998 09:36:16 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

*looks to her right (the reader's left.)* Oh yeah? I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!

Theresa: Interesting you ask that...CYR-WAY, like it looks. If no one knows how to pronounce CYR, it's like SEAR, as in Searway Ford (shudders.) I hate Sanford. Anywhose...

Coyote: How did a nice Scottish girl like me end up with a french name like Cyrway? Actually, Cyrway somehow mutated from Duplessie...don't ask, I don't know...my father's father's father was French...we don't like to admit it though... *no offense to the Frenchmen of the world...;) *

So why couldn't I be "Clark"? Because a. That's my mom's maiden name and b. ppl would REALLY start thinking I'm male...

Well ,that's the story of my name...working on Ambient Arachists still, and Mandi, I did recieve the email finally.

"My Cosmic Song Goes On For Eternity"
Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 08:43:22 AM
IP: gcolor.com

[Quick reply.]

MDY> Oh, the All I Needed To Know thing was at YOUR site and not Stephen's. I can't believe I got those mixed up.
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 05:01:23 AM
IP: tnt-2-196-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hi,

I haven't yet seen a link for 'All I Really Need To Know About Life I Learned From Watching Gargoyles' - (by Batya Levin and Eilonwy) I have a version on my site - in the library/media section. Click my name to check it out.

Episode Spoilers ***

The Scottish Play - in a word, stunning. Comfortably the best episode so far this season. This one really 'feels' like an episode of the original series. I could almost see the episode playing in my head as I read it - the mark of a good work of fiction. A very nice joining of the Garg universe with an old legend about the play. And we have some very nice character development on Macbeth, Goliath and Elisa. I loved it. Rene 'Damocles' Modesto's wonderful artwork deserves a special mention too.

Spoilers End ***

I'm Sorry - A great story, but while reading the comments I became confused, as I seemed to remember that Elisa DID kill Demona. So I went and found the fic on my hard disk the ending was as I remembered. Were there two versions? I wondered. Anyway this morning I got a new copy of the fic. What must have happened is I got an incomplete download of the story, which missed the last couple of paragraphs. So the end appeared like this...


[ She had no further desire to live. Puck's words were hollow in her mind. Her survival instinct, an instinct that had kept her alive for over twelve centuries, had finally failed. Her future was a hopelessly empty one, with only loneliness to be her companion. So why eat? Starvation couldn't kill her, she knew. But it would help her to become an easier target for the one who could end her suffering.

Pain. Demona didn't even flinch ] .."

Which as far as I knew was the end. I'll have to go back and read the whole thing again now. If it had stopped on any other word (or letter even), I would have realised it hadn't finished. But like that, it appears Elisa kills her. Million to one chance, but one that makes it an entirely different, darker tale. I'll have to see which one I prefer. :)

Matt Dymond - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKTuesday, November 10, 1998 04:20:59 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

Fleur > re: pneumonia (WARNING, all -- oogy grossness ahead) I came down with it after an extensive neck surgery. Hard to determine which suffering resulted from what. But the slow undersea dragging breathing was bad, the collapsed lung and consequent chest tube were worse, and the icing on the cake was the coughing up of yuck (through a tracheotomy tube, no less, so they had to give me a little vacuum-tube to shlurp it out through the hole in my neck). A cough like that is like a deep blunt handful of claws digging at your insides; a coughing fit doesn't just end but sort of trails off into a whimper; and sometimes you can't get any more breath because a bubble or wad of slime is blocking your pipes so you have to keep trying to cough when your lungs are on empty. Then you lay there, shaking from the effort, your head fuzzy and light, hardly daring to breathe because you're afraid that it will start up again. Which is all probably more than you, or anybody else, ever wanted to know!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 01:54:31 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Just a quick post. (No RP this time.)
Is there anyone in the CR who has ever had pneumonia, or has been around when somebody else has? One of my characters in my 'fic has a severe case of it, and I want to write her suffering as acurately as possible. I've looked it up in some books, but dry stuff like 'spuntum discharge may contain blood' and 'severe coughing fits' don't really tell me what it's _really_ like. If there's anyone who can help me, I'd really appreciate it.
BTW Robby> Yep, I read your post. :) I Liked the Puck thing, but as I hadn't gotten to the CR in a few days, it was incredibly full, and i didn't have enough time to reply to everyone.
Kitainia> *blushes* thanks.
TTFN.
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:43:51 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

Kitainia: I've said it before and I'll say it again. You and Shauna are enjoying this game a little too much. But keep it up, as long as death is not all we're about. And I know it isn't, right?

Deuce: Sorry I didn't say this earlier, but thanks for posting that pic. Goliath looks very cool. :)

Later,
Doug
Monday, November 9, 1998 11:53:08 PM
IP: hil-c45-076-vty91.as.wcom.net

**On the screen, Kitainia swoops down screaming out of the sky and grabs one of the trailing Sons of Thunder by the back of his Megadeth T-shirt. "Give me one good reason not to drop you!" she snarls at him after pulling the guy off his bike and taking him up in the air. "I'll die!" he screams, fainting in fright as he recognizes Kitainia's face. She shrugs and drops his unconscious body into the middle of a nearby farm's mudhole full of grunting pigs. She then continues to glide after the Onslaught and its pursuit.**

One jerk cliched biker down, eight to go. After I make a few replies, I shall continue the game!

Fleur: Good job on portraying Trinity and Jacinto last post. You need to tell old Mule-Face (what some call Jacinto behind his back due to his horselike appearance and stubborness) to watch it with that chain-gun of his.

Green Baron: (If you're still lurking in here) You're not the only one who's had to suffer because of a bad father. My friend Shauna's doesn't care at all about her and her brother in the least, never did. Even when they were born, he was out drinking and hanging with his friends. Guess that's why Shauna's mom divorced the guy. But even that didn't wake him up. He didn't change his ways, but he did go to court and get them all involved in a huge custody case. He lost, of course, and still owes them all a huge amount of alimony and child support. Got visiting rights, but never treated his kids with anything but anger and contempt. Shauna and Donald's stepfather is a much better person, both supportive and caring. That's why Shauna changed her name to match his, despite her biological father getting very mad at her about it. Please excuse us if we let Shauna do to her biological dad what she wants to do to him in this RP.

**Shauna, standing alongside the tank in the back of the Onslaught, directs the Gearhead to fire a shot over the roof of Chapman's car. No damage is done, but the shell's whine shatters the car's windshield. Shauna raises her bow, waits for a break in the weaving, then says "This is for my mother," and lets fly. The arrow hits Chapman in the chest, knocking him back against the seat as his car veers off the road. It goes over a guardrail into the Colorado River, quickly sinking to the bottom. Shauna waves her hand, watching her deadbeat dad drown and scream. The Onslaught drives on and she steps back as Kitainia breathes a sigh of relief.**

Okay, got that done. No more evil relatives of ours left to take out. At least, I don't think there are any more. I hope not.

Spike: Janurary? We have to wait till Janurary to resolve that question? For the love of God, woman, why so long? Oh well, I'll wait, knowing that you guys have a lot to cover first and it's really not that far away. I will keep enjoying whatever good stories we get until then.

Christine: I liked that scene, too. The whole book is good. Doug finished it today, btw. You ought to read his remarks in your novel's official CR.

Cyrway: People often get my last name wrong, too. But two ls or ns instead of one is a small thing compared to what they do with yours. Looking forward to your next fic, mind sending me a copy if the archives' not back up when you get it done?

Robby: Glad you trust us, thanks for the compliments. The only reason I didn't comment on your Puck joke is because it'd probably hurt your feelings if you knew what I really thought. So I'll keep my mouth closed unless you really want to know.

Coyote: Looking forward to reading the next part of your saga after Buffy tomorrow night. Think you'll know who I'll be teamed with for WCC anytime soon? Thanks for all the help so far in the RP.

That's all for now. Wonder if we'll get any new pics in here any time soon. Lucy, Caspian, Garlon, Sevarius and a few others have been done. Later all. Bye.

**Kitainia dives down and grabs another biker by his jacket. This one doesn't faint, he just screams as he is pulled off his motorbike, lifted into the air and dropped right into a pen with a huge black bull inside on a nearby farm. Unfortunately for this particular biker, he is wearing a red shirt and headscarf that as he lands and gets up move in just the right way to make the bull mad. It charges and gores the biker, his screams echoing behind as the Onslaught speeds on ahead and the other seven bikers, helicopter, and two trucks continue to pursue. The screen flicks off, to be continued next time.**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 11:46:41 PM
IP: hil-c45-076-vty91.as.wcom.net

I must say, I am very glad to be proven wrong. A little bit of ego on my behalf to assume everyone should reply to me, (After all, I don't reply to everyone, tho' I try!) but it did get frustrating when I put forth several ideas in the course of a week and none of them warranted a single response...

Frodo- One of the gators died? Oh no, it must have been my job to feed them. Cripes... Good thing we never got around to final names for them... Now I'm gonna have to find a new one...

Duece-I agree, Disney Adventures has declined a LOOONG way from the great mag it was. But then, so has the Disney series lineup... And hey, we haven't gotten snow here in like 12 years!

Theresa- Yeah, you do send me those jokes, (thanx by the way, they're always enjoyable. Did you get the Star Trek lists I sent you?) but again, I was a bit frustrated that NO ONE was even mentioning anything I said in the CR...

Sorow- True, you did bring up the MD/Gargs crossover, but once more, no one commented on that. (Geex, this submission is getting repetitive ain't it? No one feel guilty, you've already appologized...)

Wilek-The clan returns to their Scottish accents... And Hudson becomes completley unitelligable... ROTFL with that one...

Kyryn- Nice to see you're back...

Coyote- I was the first to sign onto your capsule in 2 months? Woah... And I know how the name thing can be. Try having something like BEVARD and see what happens...

Anyway, once again I am glad to be proven wrong, and all of your appologies (especially one after the other) make me feel bad for making the rest of you feel guilty... I'll try to avoid a similar post in the future... But if I ever go unnoticed for a month...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 11:25:35 PM
IP: spider-we024.proxy.aol.com

**The screen flicks back on. The Onslaught truck is approaching the enemy's roadblock, as the bad guys hastily try to get their four eighteen-wheelers in position to block the road. Kitainia's one-time would-be kidnapper Rodney Schuler is in the front seat of one next to his trucker pal, Felix Membrez. Another of the trucks is being driven by Logan Hatcher, who was Jammer's mechanic until the Ravens' resident comedian took him to court for creating more problems in the car than he fixed. As the Onsalught approaches, they back up and crunch their trucks together to cut them off. The Onslaught plows right through the empty back trailers, knocking them aside as it drives on. Felix and Logan quickly turn around and add their huge trucks to the pursuit, the other two Macks turning to pace the Onslaught on each side. Several clone ninjas climb out of hatches on top of each pacing truck's trailer and leap on top of the Onslaught's. A hatch in the Onslaught's trailer top opens and Stephanie and Shap come out to try and get them off. The bikers continue to pursue, joined by the four trucks, Kim's chopper, and a very fast car driven by Dan Chapman, Shauna's abusive deadbeat dad (Don't worry, he and Shauna's mom divorced long ago. There's a better man in the family now, Mike Lockdale. But this guy is still alive, and still being a jerk). He is weaving erratically, probably drunk as usual, but gaining nonetheless. The bikers continue to whoop and holler as they get closer. The camera focuses on Doug, who begins to speak.**

Oh boy, this is turning into the world's greatest chase scene. I know Asil and Thailog just have to be responsible for it. Oh well, hopefully it will end soon.

**Jammer speeds up, trying to get the trailer's side doors alongside the pacing trucks' cabs so they can be destroyed. Said side doors are meantime opening, to reveal Boris at one and Mist at the other, bazooka in hand and chaingun in paws.**

Okay, let me do some non-RP posts now.

Heather: I agree with Fleur. Get help now before this thing goes from pranks and threats to actual cause of suicide. Please.

Cyrway: People often get my name wrong too. They sometimes think I'm Elders, not Elder. Singular, not plural. So I feel your pain.

Robby: Thanks for the compliments, glad you trust us with your real name.

Yep, the TGS Staff is taunting us. Taunting us with stuff for which we cannot wait. But go ahead, people. We'll keep reading. Just don't keep us waiting too long, and keep churning out good stories all the while, or we might get mad. Remember, writers are nothing without people who read. :)

Wilek: Interesting development for why Thailog has taken over Area 51. Wonder who this alien warlord is. Hope I don't know him. But then, I don't think I know any alien warlords. I did know Marvin the Marsin, but thanks to our poker disagreement he went to that big red planet in the sky. <evil grin>

Kyryn: We're waiting for you. I too had a dog named Bandit, once. Wonder if yours is anything like mine, what's his breed? Mine was collie-chow-St. Bernard mix, real big mutt. Got shot by a neighbor for poaching chickens when we left him alone on Grandaddy's ranch. I miss him much. Glad your Bandit's coming along, and he won't have problems working with Mist. Hope vice versa applies also.

Coyote: Uh oh, looks like Kim's going to be a major problem for us. We'll get to her soon enough, though. First we have to deal with all these other jerks pursuing us.

Firestorm: Nope, you're wrong. Read the comics and watch the show again. That theory's impossible. Only two cities got hit by nukes in WW2, and very few mutants that I've seen are Oriental, let alone Japanese.

That's all for now. Till next time, bye.
**Jammer applies the Onslaught's nitro injectors and finally gets ahead of the two pacing trucks. As he slows down and they start to pull alongside him again, Boris and Mist both fire shots into the enemy trucks' cabs. One is blown up by Boris's 90-lb rocket, its driver killed and the truck's engine destroyed. A heavy spray of hot lead from Mist's chaingun does the same for the truck cab on the other side, which veers off the road and crashes into a tree. Up on top of the Onsalught, the last ninja clones are sliced up and thrown off by Stephanie and Shap. Inside the Onslaught, Government Liasion Janice Ripowski growls and takes note of all the violent destructive acts the Ravens are doing, planning to later give them serious grief just to be a heel. The seven motorcycles (nine bikers, but some are riding tandem), Dan Chapman's weaving fast car, and the two eighteen wheelers with busted in trailers carrying Rodney, Felix, and Logan continue to pursue. So does Kim's chopper. To be continued next post.**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, November 9, 1998 11:12:03 PM
IP: hil-c45-076-vty91.as.wcom.net

Cyrway: I meant to add this before, but I forgot. Silly me. :P
Don't feel too bad about people screwing up your name. At least it's just a matter of mispronunciation. Imagine if you found out (as I did about 6 years ago) that when people mispronounce your last name, it changes your *nationality!!* I'm not exactly one of your standard "Chicano Pride" kind of guys, but I at least want to be recognized as a Mexican American, rather than Portuguese. (Confused yet? Think about it this way: there's two ways of pronouncing "Martinez," not to mention two spellings. If you end it with "z," and pronounce it "Mar-TI-nez," it's Spanish. If you end it with "s," and pronounce it "Mar-ti-NES," it's Portuguese.)
Just letting ya know it's happened to me. Numerous times. I didn't have an educator get it right on the first try until my sophomore year in college!
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:52:25 PM
IP: modem59.i-is.com

SHAUNTELL - Click on my name to get to the TGS Mirror Site. Maybe your computer will be able to access that. If it can't access either that or the regular TGS Site, then I think you'd better look into doing something about your computer.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:41:01 PM
IP: pn7-ppp-61.primary.net

Shauntell > Go to the TGS site link at the top of the comment room header then click on the "This Week's Episode" button. It should take you right to the story. (I just checked it)
kathy - [kpogge@atl.mediaone.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:38:47 PM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net

Hi guys, and I'm sorry to be such a pest, but I'm getting extreemly frustrated. ( As always!) But, I just tried reading the latest storty and I couldn't get it. I keep getting a file not found, 404, error message. I don't know who is in charge of putting the stories on line but I'm frankly upset with the way it is being done. See, last week I had no problem ( Go Figure ) because it was Griff and them and not the real gargoyles. Nothing works and nothing seems to be getting fed into the web correctly. Is there any one who cab give me a link where I can read these flippen stories!!?? I'm tired of getting on line and always not having something working!!!! Maybe it's my computer, I don't know, but it's really ticking me off.
I wonder if from now on the staff should just have a particular link set up here, because other wise I run into all sorts of problems, and I'm tired of crying for help because I don't know why anything isn't working and how to fix it. And I'm sure that by now you guys are tired of a certain persons complaints, but when nothing works who do I talk to?
Again, I'm sorry to be such a pain, but it seems that everyones found a link that has enabled them to read the stories. I would like to know where you are going 'cause I've tried several different sites and I keep getting the same message. I don't know why, but I do.
Anyway, I'ld better git before I really tick myself off, or someone else.
See ya around, I guess.
Shauntell - [sgargoyle9]
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:30:41 PM
IP: spider-tp081.proxy.aol.com

X-Men: I thought that they started appearing in the 1940's, and caused by our use of nukes.

The TGS eppisode was pretty good. I almost thought that Merlin was gonna take a Christine-ish turn with the story, or in a future eppisode!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:28:33 PM
IP: dhcp167.visitus.net

**The screen lights up to reveal Onslaught's rear doors opening. As they come fully open, Coyote's tank pulls up to the edge, turret pointed outward toward the bikers.**

Are we ready, guys?

<"Yo.">

FIRE IN THE HOLE!!

**The turret fires a nine inch shell over the heads of the bikers, who break formation for a moment, then just speed up.**

Ohhh crud, I don't think our warning shot scared 'em off enough. While we're waiting for our ears to stop ringing (you'd be surprised at the amount of reverb a turret shot will create in a semi trailer), I'll make some replies, forgive me if they're too loud.

SPOILER ALERT! -- "The Scottish Play": Another tearjerker (2 in one weekend! Agh!), and an excellently written story. I salute you, Merlin Missy! **salutes** Your work was beautiful, especially the last scene with MacBeth finally sending Gruoch to rest. -- END SPOILER!!

Doug: Kim isn't dead. One of the little annoyances about her is that she always has a backup. I blow off her weapons, she comes back with a handheld rocket launcher. I shot down her chopper, more than likely she'll come back with something else. I'm still on the lookout. BTW, Gearhead thanks Orion.

Spike: Jericho's Pub, hm? I must check this one out when I get down there.

Deuce: Hmm ... for the longest time I really didn't like the Oilers (maybe because in the late '80s they beat the Wings twice in a row in the Campbell Conference finals), but I do like them now. Why, you ask? They beat the Avalanche in the first round last year, thus preventing the Wings from having to deal with them. (Although, Kyryn, that's not to say that the Stars didn't deserve to be in the WC Finals, they did. And they only got better by adding Hull.)
The post-apocalyptic fiction I wrote in college was pretty hopeful, but it started with a lot of despair. Basically, it dealt with an alien invasion (sound familiar? ;) which *starts* with a mega-weapon that wipes human civilization off the face of the planet ... save for one ship. Maybe one of these days I'll get it together and write it further.

Robby: I'm not ignoring you, either. I just couldn't think of anything to add to the list. BTW, I thank you for your trust in us to reveal your name to us (not to mention signing my Time Capsule. I think you're the first to sign it in nearly two months.).

Spike again: Got the original today. It got a little mangled (thank you, US Postal Service :P), but it arrived none the worse for wear. You're the best ;)
(I really shouldn't say anything about the USPS ... my dad is a mail carrier in Denver.)

***RP!!!***

**Coyote shakes his head.** Whoa, that was a little overkill there.

<"And they didn't slow down!!">

I can see that, Jason. Any ideas, guys?

<"Look there!">

**All eyes turn to the sky just above the bikers. Kim's back. And she's flying an even more heavily armed chopper. Uh oh.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:14:56 PM
IP: modem59.i-is.com

**The screen comes on. Kyryn, wearing a helmet with holes cut in it for her horns, is speeding down U.S.90 in a Ural motorcycle. There is a large German Shepherd type dog riding in the sidecar, wearing an old style leather helmet, and manning a machine gun. "I'm on my way guys and I'm bringing Bandit, thief extraordinaire, and an excellent gunner". The dog waves and grins.**

SPOILER

Wow!!!!

END SPOILER
Robby> I've been offline all weekend! The gargs/Mighty Ducks x-over - LOL - brain wavelengths - I had the same idea over the weekend!

Todd> Deryni?!? - now you've got me thinking and I'm going to have to go re-read all the novels again! On another note - How about Sir Adam Sinclair from the Adept series? There's probably lots of Pendragon/Gargs material there. Hmm?? The brain is boiling. I don't have enough time to write the ones I've started on already! Ah well, if the ideas are still there down the road, maybe they will come out.

Heather> I'll try and send the pics again in a while. Things have gotten real busy at work and home. I'm trying to assemble one computer out of the pieces of two.<g>

Spike> I'm working my way through your fic. I was listening to a song called "Dare" on the Transformers soundtrack over the weekend and I kept seeing animation of the sequence with Avery and the helicopters from "Deep in the Heart".
Your planning to hold the Gathering at the end of June? You do realize that A-kon 10 is at the beginning of June. BTW I work A-kon 10 and Stellar. If you need help, let me know.
Before it gets hot???? LOL

Doug> I'm on the road and should link up with your crew in about 2 hours. BTW, Bandit does not have problems working with Mist.<g>

Deuce>Snow!?! - I'm in South Texas. 1/2 inch is a good year. The last time Uvalde had a big snowfall was in 1988 I think. Then they had about 10 inches, which beat the total recorded history of snow in Uvalde!

Rolling Calf> Which Godzilla?

**On screen Bandit is pointing at something and yelling. Turning onto Loop 410 Kyryn sees someone has blown up one of the bridges ahead of her. She gets a maniacal grin and guns the engine. She pops her wings as she jumps the chasm, lands on the other side and keeps going. Bandit looks at her, shakes his head, and goes back to watching the road as the screen fades**
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:05:35 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

[Wilek, Miriam, Jake, Teri, Anoth, Forfexx, Raoul, all five Doom Commandos, the bikers, the five Dark Troopers, SJ, and Frankie are in the Area 51 research lab. Jake has just found out why Thailog is building a stealth ship.] Guys, Thailog has made some kind of deal with an alien government: They're going to sell him advanced weaponry that he can use to overthrow the world's governments, if he can provide a means to get it past the Dark Star. To this end, he's found the thing that crashed at Roswell, repaired it, and is attempting to create a cloaking device that will work on such a small vessel. We've got to sabotage the project.

****TGS SPOILER****
You know, Elisa's thought about getting Goliath into a kilt <ROTFLMTO> reminded me of something that's been bouncing around in my skull for a while now: In Timedancer, the Gate allowed Brooklyn and Sata to speak the prevalent language of whatever time and place they happened to be in. However, they said that that effect wore off over time, forcing them to learn each others' languages. Now, I think that the Magus' hypersleep spell did a similar linguistics thing to the rest of the clan. What if it also wears off? Quite suddenly, they'll forget how to speak English. When they relearn, they'll all have Scottish accents, and Hudson will be completely incomprehensible. I can just imagine him speaking with an extremely heavy accent and every few words are in Scottish instead of English. <imagines this and LOL>
****END SPOILER****

Theresa> Another requirement for TGS staff members is the ability do work under a deadline, which is the sole reason I don't send them melodramatic e-mails begging them to let me in. If I could work under a deadline, I'd have at least four fanfics up by now. You know, I'm planning a few big things for my fic universe, but I don't have enough fics up that anyone would be interested...I can be very sadistic when I want to be... >:)

Robby> Sorry about not commenting on those things; I've just had so much else on my mind. I actually thought the Mighty Ducks thing was very kewl; I just didn't have the good sense to say it earlier. As for the "All I Needed To Know..." thing...isn't there something like that at Stephen Sobotka's site? And thanks; I'm glad to be considered trustworthy. ^_^

SOROW> Someone provided a link to "I'm Sorry" in last week's room.

Come on, gang, we have to stop the stealth project. [Suddenly, an alarm sounds and the security monitors show a dozen scuttlers heading for the lab.] Oh SNOT! [Wilek uses the Lurk card he found in the CR last week. The card disappears, and the team becomes invisible. The scuttlers never see them escape. To be continued...]
Wilek Nereus
Monday, November 9, 1998 09:53:17 PM
IP: tnt-1-209-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Robby> Just remember who helped you think of that Garg/Mighty Ducks crossover pun, okay buddy:)
And since everyone is talking about it nonstop, where the heck can I find this I'm Sorry fic?
SOROW
Monday, November 9, 1998 09:18:43 PM
IP: usr4-4-dialup10.mix1.irving.cw.net

Robby, I remind you, you're on my joke forward list for a reason. Someone has to be.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 09:03:59 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

** walks in, recovering from speechlessness already **

SEVARIUS JR.> Never mind, the similarity is gone. Hearing your raving-- I mean, discussion *wink*-- reminded me of a certain X-best-friend of mine, but he never stopped like you did. EVER. He would just ramble on and on and on, not caring who (or Who, in some cases) he was offending, until someone beat him into silence. Congrats, you've got the guts to step down. (I was actually thinking of taking parts of that dead horse and smackin' ya with them, but...).

ROBBY> Hi! I'm not ignoring you. *moves briskly away... j/k*

So, does anyone have snow yet? I don't. Could someone mail me some? Like, a LOT? I'm itchin' to start a big snowball fight, but there's ONLY HALF A BLOODY INCH OF THE WHITE STUFF!!! Oh, well. I hope we have a white Christmas this year... last year we didn't get snow 'til New Year's. And this is in CANADA for Pete's sake. *grumbles*

Oh, and click my name for a special treat: the original, full-page ad for Gargoyles published in the November 1994 issue of Disney Adventures, a formerly very cool magazine. (Now a piece of trash I'd rather burn than read). Sadly, XOOM is not co-operating with my FTP client, so I'm using my throw-away Geocities account. (Be warned: it's 238K, so it could take a couple seconds).

** leaves **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City fo Champions, Alberta, Canada
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:57:05 PM
IP: ppp065.connect.ab.ca

Robby> I thank thei for the honour of knowing thei real name, and one of the gators died so u have to go get a new one...........
Frodo
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:40:00 PM
IP: ras121.vortex.is

Are you sure that a streak of sadism isn't a requirement? First Todd taunts us with a countdown, now Christi, taunts us with stuff in JANUARY!!!

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:35:02 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

Why is it whenever I throw in something for EVERYONE to say something about, no on ever notices? First, I fullfill that Mighty Ducks/Gargs crossover, with what I still think was a fairly clever, if not bad pun... And then I throw in the concept of putting together an "All I need to know about life I learned from Gargoyles" bit, and not even a single comment on it... And then no one even tells me if its my job to feed the rabid gators. It's like my alter ego has to dig a moat and bring in some rabid gators for either of us to get any attention... Maybe its the text color...

Kitania- No, it's not a changing of screen names, I'm just using my real one, because 1) its shorter and easier to type, and 2)I feel more comfy in this place now and I trust you guys with my real name...
(Thats a compliment to everyone here by the way. Lets see how many people comment on that by the end of the week... In fact, I'm making it a challenge. I want EVERY ONE of you who reads this to at least acknowledge the compliment. It won't take long to see just who is avoiding me for some reason...)

SJ- Whats this about you beating a horse to death?

Anyhow, not much to comment on now, as the gators Are settled in, the CR Lawyer is nowhere to be seen, and neither are the Smurfs... Kinda dull in here this week...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:33:41 PM
IP: spider-tn081.proxy.aol.com

Starsinger> I don't think taunting the audience is part of the requirements. But definately one of the perks.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:26:56 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89

Cyrway> Please accept my apology. I do know about mis-spelling names, most people leave of the H in mine. BTW, how do you pronounce your name correctly?

Kitiania> Yes I'm old enough to be his mother, but I'm not Demona and I'm not into cradle robbing. <G> I was just so happy to find that link. (Probably mis-spelled your name too. (sigh).

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:10:23 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

CYRWAY - Apology accepted.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 07:00:56 PM
IP: pn7-ppp-58.primary.net

Todd> I'm sorry...the first time, I thought you were the one who posted the question to me...the second time, I thought you wanted me to explain...I appologise...
Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 06:54:39 PM
IP: gcolor.com

CYRWAY - I never said anything about a game "I have no mouth and therefore I must scream". Why are you addressing your comments about it to me?

Shakespeare didn't have a choice in portraying Macbeth as the villain. Remember, James I, who was King of England at the time, was a descendant of Duncan and Canmore, and knew it. What would have happened to Shakespeare if he'd told the truth in the play? Most likely, a very short run for "Macbeth", and extreme royal disapproval directed towards his acting company; maybe even hangings for them all.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, November 9, 1998 06:29:35 PM
IP: pn7-ppp-58.primary.net

Great new TGS episode guys (and that's double kudos to you Merlin).

Personally, I always had a creativity demon where Macbeth uses the Phoenix Gate to go back in time and whoop Shakes' hiney for slandering his name. "I was the good guy, you idiot!" Ah, I can picture John Rhys-Davies cussin' the bard out now....

WARNING: THIS IS THE END OF MY I'M SORRY BIT. I'M DONE AFTER THIS. EL FIN. HASTA LUEGO. HASTA MANANA. SAYONARA, CIAO, LUV YA BUH BYE.

I still don't quite think you got my point (don't feel bad, I do tend to go on tangents, and take 10 words where 1 suffices). My points were:

1. Yeah, life is the most precious thing in the world. But Elisa, at that point, did not have a life. She had an existence. Everyone's dead except her immortal enemy and Coyote the Wonder Toaster. Things exist; people live. When life starts to become just an existence, in my view, that's it, it's over. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying suicide is okay, I don't advocate it at all. I'm just saying that existence is definitely NOT life.) For me, if I was the only member of my race left, continued life IS hell. Just let me die, and go on to oblivion/whatever afterlife there is. I don't think Elisa would have been selfish to want to end it all; after all, at this point humanity is done. Besides, who wants to live forever? I ain't lookin' to buy my piece of the farm yet, but I don't want immortality either.

2. Yes, Demona deserves a second chance. My point is, she's already had one. In fact, she's had several. And she screwed everyone of them. Like I said, at some point, you gotta say, that's it, no more chances.

Oy, it's been a long week all ready. I'm just gonna chill out, watch a little Monday Night Football, maybe some wrasslin'. No more long, drawn out debates for me.
Sevarius "Hey, do you see that horse over there? Yeah, I beat it to death." Jr.
Monday, November 9, 1998 06:19:29 PM
IP: 129.174.56.168

Okay, I'm back...a little pyst still but okay...

Moving the ETA of Ambient Anarchists to this Thursday, because Friday, I'M ON A MUCH-NEEDED VACATION!!!

Anywhose, just a few things...

Theresa> Honey, it's C-Y-R-W-A-Y...I have a pet peeve for my name misspelled...just something after fourteen years of school does to you.

PRINCIPAL: "Is Miss Cryway in?"
ME: "That's 'Ms. Cyrway! CYR!!! NOT CRY!!! CYR!!!" *continues flip-out.*

Anywhose, on "I'm Sorry"...very good fic, though a little too apocalyptic for my tastes...

*hears Coyote thinking "A little 'too' apocalyptic for Cyrway?"*

*Luc comes up behind her.*
"Um...aren't you the one who kills off everyone in your fics?"

Shut up...I just got two more Moorcock novels...don't make me incorparated 'em...

"What about the Clone Wars?"

I said, shut up...

"And Dark Triumvirate?"

Shut up...or else I'll post "Immortality and Death (working title)" first.

"Eep!" *Luc scampers away.*

Well, as for crossovers...I've always wondered why no one does a TMNT/Gargs crossover...or else I haven't seen one yet...save the one Stormy and I are writing...which only has one character, only because he's a member of PKI...

*Gecko growls a bit, glares at Cyrway, and growls, "I hate you..." and storms out. Brooklyn growls, glares at Cyrway, and says the same thing, and follows Gecko.* Hey, it wasn't you! It was your Evil Alternate Universe selves!

Todd: I have never seen the game "I have no mouth, and I must Scream." Here was the first time I had heard of it. "With No Mouth, it is Difficult To Scream" popped in my head while brainstorming a title, thinking about how Lexington felt betraying his brother for the sake of his little girl...and he had no where to turn...

Back to the crossovers, if anyone dares mentions "South Park Horrors", I'm going to scream...

*PTOOFF!*

Cyrway - [amy@gcolor.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 05:36:53 PM
IP: gcolor.com

Actually, depending on the arrangement we make with the hotel, we're hoping to schedule the Gathering '99 for the last weekend in June before the weather in Dallas gets truly sizzling.
Spike
Monday, November 9, 1998 05:23:04 PM
IP: dal-mm1-1064.cmpu.net

I finally figured out the second requirement for a member of the TGS staff. In addition to a great ability to tell a story, a sadistic nature. Loves to torment and taunt the audiance.

Do we even have a fixed date for the Gathering 99?

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 04:00:08 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

ARIS> *reads post, and jaw drops* Wow. That... that was very, very well thought out. I can't argue with you. At all. Good job. You've left me speechless.

** wals away **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Monday, November 9, 1998 01:16:35 PM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net

Kitainia > re Jericho, yeah, I'd certainly hope so! ; ) And re the book -- that wake-up scene is one of my faves, along with the one where Cat falls off the wall.

Speaking of Jericho -- new in my Gallery, a pic of him by Kanthara that is just gorgeous!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 01:12:08 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Last story> The last story may well have been the best TGS ever!!! Merlin Missy decided to make a reviewer's job difficult and Right now, I can't think of a single negative thing to say about the story. So I'll postpone the review for a couple days.

*** Spoilers for "I am sorry" ***

Well, sure Elisa could kill Demona. She could take the selfish way out and ensure the oblivion she so desired, oblivion for herself, and the last of humanity and gargoyles as well.

She could disguise this wish for revenge and oblivion of hers, thinking it justice for Demona and a well-deserved rest for her. But she would ignore the fact that punishment is not meant as a goal by itself but as the means to ensure the prevention of further crimes and to protect the innocent, or reform the guilty. None of which applies here.

And she would ignore the fact that she's the last of her species, that she *is* humanity in a sense. And that her memory of humanity is precious by itself.

And that she would leave Coyote alone in a barren planet.

Punishment? For what purpose?
Revenge? To what end?

Nobody is speaking about forgiveness. Demona can't be forgiven because what she did is irreversible, and certainly it's not Elisa's right to forgive her. But the death of hers serves no purpose at all. Let's forget for a minute that by killing Demona she would be killing herself as well, and make the hypothesis that she could kill just Demona: It would still be wrong. All life is precious, and Demona's death would help nobody.

Where reformation is concerned? Demona is already reformed, she got reformed the moment that (in that cell) understood how horrible her triple genocide was. And her punishment is seeing the empty world, and know that she created it. Do you forget that Demona at the end was quite willing to die?

At the end, Elisa had to choose between life and her own selfish desires. She chose life and Coyote's needs. She chose the right thing.

Life is precious.

*** End spoilers ***
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Monday, November 9, 1998 11:32:47 AM
IP: athe530-e112.otenet.gr

No, no, I haven't got to this week's episode yet. I'll do it after school. But now, for replies to everything posted since Saturday evening... well, not EVERYTHING.

WILEK RE: SHIVERS II> I absolutely LOVE that game. "Spell It Out" would be fun to parody, but you should have heard the Star Trek filk of "Alone Inside" my friend and I did. (Lost it, sorry).

COYOTE> The Oilers are my team. They kick ass. 'Nuff said.

SEVARIUS JR. RE: I'M SORRY> Your posts remind me of someone I know... but never mind. I do kind of agree with you: Elisa is in a no-win situation. If she doesn't kill Demona, she's screwed. She's stuck on an empty planet with only a gargoyle and a robot who seems to be developing a crush on her. She does kill Demona, she's dead. I'd go for death: the alternative sounds more like hell than anything Dante could dream of.

As for reforming her... it's possible. But would you want to try? She's shown she doesn't have a huge sense of morals, and I know I'd never trust her....

Post-apocalayptic fiction is awesome, as long as there is the slightest bit of hope. Otherwise, it's as depressing as reading Douglas Coupland right before bed on a dark and stormy night.

Now, I must go. Farewell, and I'll be back.

P.S. I haven't seen the X-Files yet, either. Damn....

Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Alberta, Canada
Monday, November 9, 1998 10:20:59 AM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net

Heh.... one of the hotels we're considering for Gathering 1999 has an in-house restaurant named Jericho's Pub. Christine and I were spectulating on whether it had a hunky red-headed bartender and just how long it take the members of the Jericho Fan Club to paint him blue and get him in a loincloth.

Regarding the George-Quinn-Richard triangle:
"When The Bough Breaks" -- coming in January. 'Nuff said.
Spike
Monday, November 9, 1998 08:04:22 AM
IP: dal-as1-1208.cmpu.net

Incidentally, for those of you who might be interested in a lighter take on the "curse of the Scottish Play", the third season of Black Adder (the one set during the time of George III) did an episode involving it, where two actors hired by the Prince Regent to give him lessons in public speaking keep on frantically carrying out a ritual to ward off bad luck every time that Edmund Blackadder mentions "Macbeth" in their presence - the ritual consists of clapping their hands pattycake style while chanting "Hot potato".
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, November 9, 1998 07:24:27 AM
IP: pn2-ppp-72.primary.net

*The TV turns itself on again. Fleur and Traveller are deep frying Barneys. Trinity, Clan Austin's resident I-sound-like-a-bitch-but-I'm-a-softy-underneath gargoyle, is hurling abuse at one of the Barneys.
'You sound like you need a hug' the barney rumbles. As he grabs Trinity and starts squeezing, her abuse turns to screams. Jacinto, the mexican Gargoyle, opens his guitar case, pulls out a chain gun and lets fly. Miraculously, Trinity is not hit, but the Barney is little more than a purple puddle. As the last Barney is dispossed of, Traveller grins and dissapears with CC in tow.
Fleur turns to the CR.*

Hi all!

*Spoilers alert.*
*wiping tear from eye* Wow! I was a bit afraid that this season would be buried under battles with the Unseelie, but the TGS staff produced this masterpiece and proved my fears unfounded. I LOVED IT!!! Poor Guoch, I'm glad she eventually found happiness.
Spoilers end.

Heather> In last week's post you said your friends were having trouble. Listen to me: GET HELP NOW! Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars, go directly to a police station, or a teacher, or _somebody_ and get help. If it's gotten so bad your friends want to kill themselves, then it means you guys can't fight it on your own anymore. Please get help, I'm worried about you. BTW, I know what it's like to be Outcast. I wasn't exactly invisible, not as long as people could use me for answers to their assignments. I've never been so glad to leave a place in my entire life. On the bright side, if you're the one nobody ever sees, you can get up to so much more mischief. As I discovered, unfortunately too late to _really_ have some fun, nobody ever suspects the nerd. >:)

To whoever it was that asked (Jarden? Sorry, I've forgotten) We are currently in the upper floors of the HQ of Marsh Industries, looking for the main computer terminal, Marsh himself (even though Kitainia tells us the rat has fled), and information on his ties with Tailog and the rest of the bad guys. There are some ST downstairs, flushing out any bad guys who may have escaped death when Traveller got a little destructive on the lower floors >:) If you wish to join us in legally destroying stuff, feel free! You might want to hurry though, once we crack the main computer, we'll probably end up blowing the place up, and I'd hate for anyone to get caught in that.

Gee this post has gotten long! I'd better go before the rotten fruit starts flying.
TTFN!

*As the image fades, Traveller and CC reappear. 'I have _got_ to learn how you do that.' Fleur mutters, then notices a sign on a nearby door.
"Main computer."
Can it be _this_ easy? Or is it a trap? Stay tuned.
(Ack, been watching too much daytime soap.:))
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 01:56:10 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

**The screen changes to Kitainia, gliding far above the Onslaught in the moonlit sky. She catches an updraft and does a series of daring aerial acrobatics before drifting to a restful gliding position so she can address the CR.**

I'm on scouting duty, that's why I'm up here. Haven't seen anything yet.

(Episode Spoilers Alert)
Good job on the new one, Merlin, Patrick, Todd, Kathy, and whoever else was involved. Macbeth, Angela, Demona, and Goliath were all very well charecterized within. I also liked what you did with Gruoch. Now I know who was responsible for all the accidents that happened when Stephanie and I played in Macbeth back in our high school sophomore year. She was Lady Macbeth, I was a witch. Among the accidents that happened to us were a stage light falling into my cauldron in the middle of the last rehearsal, Stephanie's dress ending up wet for some reason on opening night with no time to get it dried, Scott Smith (who played Macbeth) falling down just about every time he walked up the right side of the stage steps, and that's just the more interesting ones. Good original explanation of why the play is rumored to be cursed. The pic was good, also. And the ending with those spectres of children running around, I adored. Excellent job, keep it up.

One thing that's of concern, though, is that the Unseelie are now stealing all those magical artifacts and scrolls. Makes one wonder if you people at TGS are really going to try and carry out Greg's dream of incorporating into the Gargoyles Universe every legend ever made. If so, good luck.
(Spoilers End)

One thing I'm concerned about in TGS right now is George and Quinn's baby. It should be born by now, if I have the dates right. Did she keep it? Abort it? Give it up for adoption? Hope that soon I know.

Does Demona deserve a second chance?: I think she does. People can change, they always do. Change is the only constant. Besides, there's a certain young lavendar female gargoyle who will be REALLY disappointed and mad if a second chance is not given to her mom. :)

Robby/MrNoying: Changing your screen name on us, are we? Oh well, that's okay. Brooklyn and Sata's lines about children are going into my quote book too.

Theresa: <eyes flash in mock anger> Hey, what's the big idea? Why you hugging and kissing my man? Shame on you, being old as his mother! :) Oh well, I'm sure you meant nothing but friendship and thanks by it, so no ill will from me. This is all in jest. <smiles and laughs>

Zath: Excellent lawyer death. I enjoyed it a lot.

Christine: Don't worry, I fully intend to make sure he will turn out more like the "What Might Have Been" Jericho than the "Breeding Season" one. And I will never, NEVER, have the kind of relationship with my son that Demona has with hers. That's just plain wrong.

(Curse of the Shadow Beasts Spoilers)
BTW, Doug and I are at Chapter 19 of your book now. (He caught up to me pretty fast, he's liking it so much.) Good job so far on all the characters, though I would have liked to see more of Jessa and Bostitch. They were interesting while they lasted. I like Darkfire very much, he's funny. And the wake-up scene at the end of Chapter 18, god, that reminded me and Doug of all the times we've woken up in each others' arms when we weren't the night before. Thanks for including such a nice scene in the plot. This has got to be the best fantasy romance I have yet to read.
(These Spoilers Over Now)

Doug: You know, you should do that, especially since considering Macbeth and Agony are so much alike. They both brood, they both are percieved as men they are not, they both have been involved with redheads on a frequent basis (and for Agony, a current one), the similarities are so eerie in a way. Oh well, you move your fanfic at whatever pace you choose. You're the writer, not me. :)

Black Dog: That movie may have been cheesy and blah, but it did have great chase action scenes. We will soon be paying homage to them in our RP.

That's all for now. Bye.
**Kitainia suddenly notices the Sons of Thunder gaining on the truck below, whooping and hollering like wild Indians. "Damn it," she spits, recognizing them as the same group of bikers who are arch-rivals Cobra and her other Angel pals and recognizing the whoops as the gang's cries of war. She then puts two and two together as she spots a pair of large trucks moving to block the road ahead. "Oh, great," she sighs, turning on her wrist-comm CB. "Jammer, we got trouble coming. Get everyone prepared," she warns everyone below just before the screen goes blank. To be continued!**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 9, 1998 12:28:29 AM
IP: hil-c45-004-vty1.as.wcom.net

Merlin Missy could you be a luv and post the url for the author's directory so we can all sneak in and read things. Thanks.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, November 9, 1998 12:13:16 AM
IP: proxy-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net

[Quick post.]

*****POSSIBLE NEW TGS EP SPOILERS AHEAD****
Eps like this are the reason TGS exists. It was one of the saddest, most emotional, and most beautiful things that TGS has offered to date. I ranks right up there with "Out Of Joint" and "Requiem". Finding that at least one superstitious myth has a decided basis in fact is what Gargoyles is all about. And the new plot threads they've started...magnifique! Another winner from Saga HQ!
****END SPOILERS****
Wilek Nereus
Monday, November 9, 1998 12:09:59 AM
IP: tnt-1-131-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

** The screen comes on. Doug appears, in the front seat of the Black Ravens' eighteen-wheeler truck, the "Onslaught." (It's named for the Venom truck in an old cartoon called Mask, not the big bad X-Men guy.) Jammer is driving it beside him, blowing the air-horn every so often just for fun. Doug turns to address the CR.**

RP update: Well, the gangs in Austin are taken care of now, all busted or dead. We left Kitainia's Mafia pals behind, to take over the criminal empires they were forging so Thailog won't be able to use them for whatever may be his plans. We're not going to destroy them entirely, of course. Crime has its uses, according to my 'friend' Mr. Duval. :)

BTW, I've changed my mind about something I said earlier for our old enemies. The Sons of Thunder, rival motorcycle gang to Kitainia's biker friends, will be in this saga for a few posts beyond their appearance below. She and I have plans to take them out in a scene paying homage to the chase action movie Black Dog. Wait and see.

So anyway we are now headed for San Antonio, to check out the circus preforming there tomorrow night. No more signs of Asil or her minions, we haven't been attacked since we mopped up the gangs last night. We'll see them again soon, though. As long as we keep trying to mess up their possible plans, of that I can be sure. As for Shallow Mouth, we found out he's already told us all he knows, so he's taking his new body to the Marsh Building to join up with Traveller and Fleur. They can deal with him from now on, hope they finish up there soon so we can close the Austin chapter of this little game. :)

Coyote: Don't know where the infiltrator is, by the time we reacted to it they were long gone. I think those spells Orion cast on Gearhead (thank goodness he wasn't dead, our cleric doesn't do ressurections) before we left helped. I don't think Kim isn't dead, is she? Just want to know so I can cross her name off the enemy list, if so.

TRC: Apocalypse was right, at least as far as my universe is concerned. Of course, he died in the X-Men cartoon series finale, so he won't make any appearances in my work. In my opinion, Apocalypse wasn't really a mutant. He was a true Halfling, considering that he was way too powerful to be otherwise. How long ago he appeared clearly supports this idea. But of course I can't have him appear in any crossovers. Can't have Bishop, either, since his entire character premise doesn't mesh with the Gargoyles Universe. Oh well, I'll still tell good stories even doing without.

(Blatant plug) BTW, I finished "Clash of the New Olympians" today. Events have been set in motion in my universe that bode ill for the future, death has occurred on a mass scale, and soon for Taurus and his people nothing will ever be the same. Readers will also get to finally see in action the "new & improved" Thailog, and his Ultra-Pack. If anyone wants a copy, don't hesitate to send me an e-mail and ask. (I know, I'm getting fast as Christine at churning stories out. But if I want to rival her someday as far as number of fanfics goes, it must be done. <grin> )

Starsinger: You're welcome. He has a couple new stories up by the way, one of which is very important in setting in motion future events in his saga, just like every story I write (especially the one I just finished) is important to setting in motion future events in mine. :)

Beavis and Butthead Crossover: Yeah, that would be dumb. That's why I'll keep the ideas I've had for one as ideas, and no more. Gargs/Godzilla, though, that could be intriguing. But nah, I don't think I'm going to incorporate the big lizard into my work.

Post-Apocalypse Stories: I like reading these, too. The Mad Max series is good, so is Terminator. And I actually liked Postman. My next fanfic (still going to be "Next Generation") will have its main action set in a post-apocalypse world. I'm going ahead and doing it to build up more suspense before the big trilogy of tales that will bring many of my saga's conflicts to their conclusion (and of course create more)- "Capture," "The Ultra-Pack Cometh," and "End to the Rage." It'll be out when it's done.

Merlin: Yes, we know the archive is not "really down." But new stories cannot be added to it right now, and that's what irks me. So many ideas, so many stories written, no sounding board to put them up on for people to read. Oh well, I'm sure it will be up soon. Then to my awaiting readers my stories will be revealed.

(Warning: Episode Spoilers!)
Speaking of Merlin, she did a great job on the new episode. :) While I do not like the fact that what we often accept as history is not really the truth, it was still entertaining to see Macbeth have to deal with accepting the travesty that is the play with his name. I enjoyed watching his reaction to it all, and his budding romance with Joanna. The character moments with Angela, Elisa, and Goliath were good, too. It seems Owen and Xanatos are preparing for the Unseelie war, wonder when it's going to begin. Hopefully not soon, so more stories not directly related to it can first be told. And Grouch, I have to compliment everyone involved in this story on what they did with Grouch. Talk about an original explanation for an old curse. Nice job on writing it and Macbeth's finally laying her to rest. One less ghost wandering around in the Gargoyles universe is a good thing. The picture was also good, and I liked the scene at the end. All in all, good job. Keep it up, TGS Staff!

Kudos especially to Patrick Toman, for the great editing job. Though I did find at least three spelling and grammatical errors he missed.
(Spoilers End)

Creativity Demon: Macbeth and Agony (from my fanfic) are both men who were wrongly percieved by history. Maybe someday I'll write a fic where they sit down and talk it all out, discovering they have more in common than they know.

Zath: Of course you're welcome to join our madness. Thailog Horror, too. Hope you enjoy.

Okay, that's all for now. Hail and farewell!
**The truck drives on down the road, the rest of the Ravens' vehicles piled inside along with the Ravens themselves, FBI liasion Janice Ripowski, Coyote, and his friends. The screen changes as they pass over the horizon to a picture of Asil. She and the tough but dimwitted Guod are talking to nine bikers dressed in black leather and astride Harley Davidson Fat Boys. "They're on the road," she orders them. "You know what to do." "You got it, missy," the bespectacled and weasel-faced Chip, who leads the Sons of Thunder, chortles back through buckteeth. He tightens the scarf around his head (none of these bikers are wearing helmets, they're not too smart), whoops to the moon, and they all zoom off after the truck, leaving a grinning Guod and a maniacally laughing Asil behind. To be continued next post.**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 11:55:02 PM
IP: hil-c45-004-vty1.as.wcom.net

Time for my Jerry Springer impression.

Now, my "Final Thought:"
The whole point I was trying to make is about second chances. I know, I know, "everybody deserves a second chance." Well, Demona, it seems, is on her 865th. She had a second chance with Macbeth, she had a second chance to join the clan when they Awakened, she had a second chance to reform after Thailog and the clones betrayed her, etc, etc., etc., she's had a whole truckload of second chances. SHE BLEW EVERY ONE. At some point, you have to say, enough is enough. You don't deserve another one. That's what I'm saying. There has to be some kind of line drawn. In my opinion, Demona crossed it loooooong ago, and she doesn't deserve to backtrack.
Sevarius "Drawin' more heat than a furnace" Jr.
Sunday, November 8, 1998 11:52:52 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net

Doug and Kitainia > was just going over last week's stuff -- naming a kid Jericho?!? Isn't that just a leeetle bit disturbing? ; ) But then, I have gotten e-mail from a proud father of a newborn Elisa, and I named Becca after roleplaying characters, so you just go right on! ; )

Missy > fabulous story, as always! Thank you!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 11:52:41 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**The screen lights up to reveal the Ravens' convoy still parked in the lot. Coyote, Buick and Jason are standing near Kitainia's motorbike, eating sandwiches and watching the Gearhead perform a full oil and filter change on the tank.**

Hey, folks. Still taking a breather after the great chase, so I'm just popping up for some replies ... especially now that the room has wiped already.

SPOILER!! -- "I'm Sorry": An excellent fic. Although, that's kind of a biased opinion, I've always had a soft spot for post-apocalyptic sci-fi (I was up until 1am last night watching "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome" on TNT; one of my favorite Stephen King novels is The Stand; I even wrote some post-apocalypse fiction in a college fiction writing class!). I tip my hat to Mr. Ziegler (sp?), his tale was a masterpiece which had me close to tears numerous times (particularly the two different perspectives to Goliath's death). --SPOILER ENDS

Doug: You have nothing to fear. Like I've said numerous times, WCC will not be finished until next summer ... probably around late June ... and posted probably shortly before I leave to attend G99.

Mandi: It sure is. I gave myself the first of what will probably be many headaches assembling parties last night, trying to do it evenly and remember the character profiles I've received.

Ravyn: Do you get your local newspaper? If not, pick up a copy of today's (if you still can), open the Sports section, and show him the score of yesterday's Michigan State-Ohio State game. Inform him that before the game MSU was a 27 1/2 point underdog. Inform him that they were playing in Columbus. Inform him (if he didn't know already) that MSU was 4-4, while Ohio State was the #1 team in the country. Inform him that if Michigan State, a team so inconsistent it makes an Ex-Lax addict look regular, can beat Ohio State, a Big Ten powerhouse who looked like a juggernaut in the conference this season, then *anything's* possible. Then take it from there. ;)

JEB: Okay, I'll keep the factory.

***RP! RP! RP!!***

What's the Gearhead doing?

<"Can't tell. Let's find out.">

**Coyote, Jason and Buick walk over to the tank. Coyote sees the Gearhead's feet, not moving, sticking out from under the tank.**

Hey, Gearhead! Wake up!

**no response**

Yo, mechanic dude!

<"He didn't hook up another nitrous tank again, did he?">

I certainly hope not. **Coyote taps Gearhead's foot, then pulls the Gearhead out from under the tank. He's been fully beaten unconscious, and covered in motor oil. Someone's scrawled out "YOU'RE NEXT COYOTE" on his stomach in grease pencil.**

Oh boy, we've got an infiltrator. Quick, guys, go find Doug and Kitainia!

**Jason and Buick run off. Coyote bends over his unconscious clone and tends to his injuries as the screen winks off.**


Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, November 8, 1998 10:54:12 PM
IP: 207.91.254.48

Sorry for the X2 post .

Todd : Actually , Apocalypse , if I'm up to date on my X-men history , wa the first mutant from some 2000+ years ago so Doug's theory could fit .
The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
JamaicaSunday, November 8, 1998 10:37:07 PM
IP: 208.11.41.218

*Merlin scurries into the room, glancing over her shoulder. She should be writing a term paper, so she pretends to be writing about Shakespeare.*
"Three things. First, everyone make sure to check out the excellent pic in this week's story, and be sure to tell Damocles how good it is. Also send a letter to our underappreciated editor Patrick Toman, who's done a lot of hard work on this and every other story you've read this season."
"Second, the last part of Todd's Guide is up. Check out the "What's New" page on the GFW. And for the record, the fanfic archive isn't down. You just need to go directly to the author's directories."
"Which brings up the third point. "I'm Sorry" is one of the two best stories in the archive. The other is "Absalom." If you never read any other indie 'fics, read those."
*A cute Viking wannabe walks into the room and glares at Merlin, telling her to get back to her paper. Regretfully, she closes this document and goes away.*
Merlin Missy - [mrwilson@umr.edu]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 10:35:24 PM
IP: saucer.cc.umr.edu

OK , just a short post here .

Sorry I have'nt been in here for a while , but whenever I wright a message and for whatever reason I ca'nt post it , I go into a serious funk .

**"I'm Sorry" Spoilers**
I agree mostly with SJ , for pretty much the same reasons , but I would have killed her , maybe not then , for Coyote's sake I would have lived , because that is (I feel) , a reason to live . I would have killed her later , because as far as I'm concerned , no one is ment to live for ever .
**End Spoilers**

Polls :
Most annoying crossover - Gargoyles / Dr. Katz .
Most interesting crossover - Gargoyles / Godzilla
Most stupid crossover - Gargoyles / Beavis and Butt head .
The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
JamaicaSunday, November 8, 1998 10:34:29 PM
IP: 208.11.41.218

*delurks*

I was major preoccupied the end of last week...

Coyote> No, keep the cookie factory. If I'd seen you'd answered before me (I missed your post), I wouldn't have said anything. Therefore, the factory is fair and square yours. :)

*back to oblivion*
JEB
Sunday, November 8, 1998 09:17:07 PM
IP: 167-172-188.ipt.aol.com

I'm Sorry> Just wanted to add that NOBODY doesn't deserve forgiveness. Not even Demona.

Daria/Gargs> Now that sounds interesting! How many people in here watch Daria? I think its a great show, one of the better cartoons on nowadays.

Well, I'm off to watch The X-Files now...
Entity
Sunday, November 8, 1998 09:05:54 PM
IP: ely-oh5-47.ix.netcom.com

Hmm, I was 11th last week too. It would be cool if I landed that spot again... But then, someone else will probably get in before I'm finished. Ah well... Isn't that right my gator friends? (The Rabid gators are asleep, and paying me no attention...)

Zath-Daria and the gargs. That would be fun. Chicken Boo as one of Xanatos' main competitors? Sounds like a likely setup to me. And your final lawyer death is your greatest.

SPOILER?
I don't know if this counts as a spoiler, as I'm only quoting one line, but better to play it safe... At one point in The Scottish Play, Elisa started mumbling," Energy is energy, through science or sorcery. Don't mix magics. Never ever assume its just a mirror."
Does this sound like one of those "All I need to know about life I learned from..." lists to anyone else? In fact, I think that's a good start for one. Perhaps we could make a complete list throughout the week? Could be fun... Remember, such lists use rules that are taken directly from the show,and immediatley make sense... The one that immediatley comes to mind for me is,
"Gargoyles should never wear an suit before nightfall." Taking cues from Broadway's trenchcaot, and the outfit Demona trashed when transforming in Hunter's Moon... Just examples... Any other ideas?

Hey, who's been feeding the gators anyway? Is that my job?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 08:55:23 PM
IP: spider-ta013.proxy.aol.com

Tenth! And wouldja believe it, the new ep is up early enough for me to read it on a Sunday night!! So that's what I'm gonna do. Night all!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 08:02:03 PM
IP: 144.175.17.40

**Zath drives in on a forklift carrying a wooden crate slightly smaller than the one Thailog Horror came in. The box is shaking and muffled cursing can be heard from inside. The forklift runs into the CR Lawyer, but only hard enough to knock him down and embarrass him.**

Okay, I'm finally back. Real Life had the nerve to demand my attention for a while. I took 3 SAT II tests yesterday and probably didn't do very well on 2 of them, but that's fine because I can take them again later if I need to. I also need to finish a story for creative writing class by tomorrow, but it can wait a while.

Doug and all other members of the RP> I'd like to join in from time to time. I have some plans for Thailog and Thailog Horror. They shouldn't interfere with anyone else's plans, but if anyone has any objections, I'll understand and save it for later.

Mandi> <<I doubt Dingo would be all that thrilled initially when he realizes that Matrix assimilated his mind into the collective (one loud voice amidst the collective bellowing, "You did WHAT??")>> LOL This reminds me of a book I read a couple of years ago. I think it was called The Lazarus Effect. It took place on a planet with sentient kelp, and the people discovered that if a dead body was placed near the kelp within a certain amount of time after death, the kelp could asimilate the person's mind into its group mind, making them nearly immortal (but without a body). One of the characters, who knew he was dying, kept telling everyone that he didn't want this done to him, but when he died, they did it anyway. The last chapter (or maybe the epilogue) shows him arguing with the kelp about various things regarding his individuality.

Strange Crossovers>
Daria/Gargoyles: Lawndale High takes a field trip to New York. Algela and Quinn trade tips on dealing with multiple suitors, while Upchuck hits on Demona and gets his face torn off. Mrs. Barch teams up with Demona against Goliath and Macbeth but then double-crosses Demona when the immortal gargoyle threatens Mr. O'Neill (who starts crying when Demona slaps him). Mr. DeMartio and Macbeth get drunk together for no apparent reason. Daria and Jane just sit back and watch it all while making snide comments.
Cupid/Gargoyles: On a trip to New York, Trevor meets Macbeth and decides to try and set him up with a certain cranky redheaded businesswoman.
Animaniacs/Gargoyles: The Warners wreak havoc in Sevarius' lab. Xanatos's business rival is revealed to be a giant chicken.

I'm Sorry> The story has been sitting around on my hard drive for probably at least a year, and I still haven't read it yet. Perhaps I should.

Lawyer Killing> Yes, perhaps I've gotten a little carried away with it. From now on, I'll only kill him on special occasions. I was running out of ideas anyway. I'll just kill him one more time and then give it a rest for a while.

**And now on with thw show... Zath jumps out of forklift and smacks the CR Lawyer in the knee with a crowbar.
Lawyer: "That's supposed to kill me?"
Zath: "No, this is." *Zath uses to crowbar to open the crate, which is labaled 'Sevarius Labs". Out of the darkness inside the box steps the CR Lawyer!*
Lawyer2: *turns to Zath* "I don't know how you plan on killing me this time, but you can expect a lawsuit for it." *then he sees the first Lawyer* "A clone? You made a clone to kill me and take my place?"
Lawyer1: "I'm not a clone. You're the clone made to kill me!" *The identical lawyers tackle each other and begin to fight, punching, kicking, scratching, and biting. They roll around the room, eventually falling into the moat. The gators, who are now well trained to avoid lawyer meat, ues their tails to swat the pair out of the water, brusing the battling lawyers but removing the temptation to eat them. The lawyers land in a soggy heap and continue to fight. Realising that other people in the room might be hurt by the lawyers, who are now singlemindedly trying to kill each other, Zath pulls a lever, and a trap-door opens under the lawyers, dropping them into a deep dark pit. The two lawyers fall through several very large nests of black widow spiders before landing waste deep in a slimy mass of giant slugs that covers the entire floor of the pit. Lawyer1 eventually manages to drown Lawyer2 in slug goo and tries to climb out of the pit. He actually manages to reach the top, but before he can get a leg up over the side, Kitty comes bounding into the room and bited his hand, making the lawyer lose his grip and fall back into the slug pit. This time he hits his head on the wall on the way down and is knocked unconscious. The slugh, who happen to be carnivorous, eat both lawyers and then go to sleep. Zath pulls the lever again, closing the pit so no one else can fall in.*
Okay, that's it, no more lawyer killing from me for a while. Bye all, I have to go write a story for school now.**
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:51:50 PM
IP: ns3-11.viptx.net

Doug, I could kiss you and I will. HUGS and KISSES
for that link to Shadow Master. I was trying to find it but kept getting a no such critter message.
I got the story I was looking for. Thanks.

Well, it's X-files, Babylon 5, and two Disney shows head to head tonight.


Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:33:23 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Sevarious Jr - Whether or not Demona deserves to be reformed is ultimately irrelevant. She is immortal, and at this point she is hostile. That is all that we know. Consider that for a moment. She can't be killed. How do you punish her? Imprisionment? Meaningless to an immortal. She can sit in a cell for as long as it takes. 'The Reckoning' proved that. Goliath and the clan on the other hand are only on this earth for a short time. The generation or two that follows them will remember Demona and her evil. But what happens after enough time passes? She can't be held forever. There will come a time when she will get out and who will be around to stop her then? By that time Demona will be a name of history, someone nobody really believes in. Then she will be free to do whatever she wants. Destroy humanity? Sure, why not. Who is going to stop her?

What is the only answer? To reform her. Forgiveness is irrelevent. She has to be made to see that her current path is wrong, and that she has to take a new one. She has to return to her gargoyle roots. Otherwise it's just a race against time. A race that the clan is doomed to lose.

As for the events of 'I'm Sorry', the fact that Demona, Elisa, and Cyoti are all that is left doesn't matter. They are alive. That's what matters. If Elisa killed Demona, all it does is continue the cycle of revenge. Look what it did to Demona. It has to end somewhere. Even in a shattered world, someone has to end the cycle. Besides as long as Elisa is alive, she has hope. There are still possibilities open to her. There might still be others out there (Coldtrio, Matrix just to name four). Death doesn't solve anything in this case.

By the way, Seventh.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:29:45 PM
IP: 92.new-york-01.ny.dial-access.att.net

Sixth through eigth, depending on how long this takes...

SPOILER WARNING
FINALLY, a return to the Manhattan clan!
The Scottish Play was great, and humorous. I wish I could write lines like that.
"It was a cross between Muppet labs, Radioshack, and the archmage..."
"Macbeth came home to what he dreaded the most: The mail."
Or Brook and Sata's conversation, which is going down in my book of quotes...
"Remind me why we had children." "The moon shone, the nightbirds sang..." Ah, I could go on and on, but the story is just a few clicks away, people can get this great dialouge for themselves... And the story was good too...
END SPOILERS

Gee, the room is so empty at the moment...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:22:08 PM
IP: spider-ta081.proxy.aol.com

Fifth. We are soo early today.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:13:08 PM
IP: proxy-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net

Doug> Thanx for the link, but I think I'd be safer not reading Breen's crossover. That way I don't inadvertainly incorporate any of his ideas into mine.

***WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

I'm Sorry> I still disagree with you, Sevarius Jr. As long as there is life, there is hope. Elisa and Demona could eventually spawn new races of humans and gargoyles to repopulate the earth. They have their DNA in them, combined with Coyote's know-how (and whatever else Oberon may have bestowed upon him), Demona's knowledge of sorcery, not to mention anything Avalon would have to offer (the fay died, but the island would still be intact). They also have Nokkar, whom they could eventually go to. Personally, I find the concept very fascinating. What if they were able to repopulate the earth? Demona and Elisa would be on the level of gods. They'd be able to shape the world however they want. They'd have control over conception of an entire planet's society. And remember, "unintelligent" life survived the plague, so plants and animals are still around (as well as Bronx). I always wondered why Elisa didn't take him with her...oh well. I've rambled on enough.

***END SPOILERS***
Entity
Sunday, November 8, 1998 07:09:19 PM
IP: ely-oh3-49.ix.netcom.com

**Sevarius Jr. is sitting in a corner of the Area 51 lab. He's holding his head in his hands, and Frankenstein's Monster is trying to offer him a friendly consolation.**

It's no use Frankie. I've had a bad day. I mean, first I have to watch my dad die, like, a thousand times....I don't care if they were clones, that creeps a guy out!

WARNING: I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT I'M SORRY AGAIN.

Okay, I started the debate, time for my rebuttle.
A lot of you brought up some very good points, and your own views.

One of you said (sorry, you all made comments, it's tough to remember exactly who) that if Elisa killed Demona, Demona would have finally won. Ummm....at this point, isn't it kind of moot who wins and loses? EVERYONE'S DEAD. EVERBODY LOSES. BOTTOM LINE. "If Elisa had killed Demona, she'd only have completed the genocide process; there'd be no humans or gargoyles left whatsoever. That would have done nobody any good." Um...No one is left alive, except for one human, a garg, and a robot. I don't know about you, but if my entire race was dead, I wouldn't want to continue living in the first place.

Airwalker: You talked about how Demona has been hunted and feared for a thousand years. I know that. But as she's been told time and time again, that's just an excuse. I don't want to give her that; that excuse is such a cop-out. So you've been hunted and hated all you life; I'm sorry about that. Does that give you the right to kill everyone? Most of the really, really bad things in her life (the destruction of the Wyvern gargs, the fall of Clan Moray, etc) were caused by HER. Yeah, Bodhe was a gutless wonder, but Demona caused the real damage.

You also said "the only hope is to reform her, get on her good side." My whole point is that she DOESN'T deserve to be forgiven. She doesn't deserve to be reformed. She deserves to be punished. Look at Castaway. Will the Gargs ever forgive him, even if he says he's reformed? If they do, you'd better check the temperature of hell. And they'd be right for never forgiving him. Demona, over the course of her 1000+ years of existence, has done worse. Why should she be reformed/forgiven?

Personally, If I were in Elisa's spot, I would have killed Demona. Right then and there, no second thoughts. I wouldn't even think. Maybe that makes me a bad person,I don't know.

Oh well, let's end the discussion. I can see Dumlao cleared the room, so let's not start the week off with a argument.

I think I'm THIRD.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 06:48:53 PM
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2nd!
Zath
Sunday, November 8, 1998 06:48:35 PM
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Witness a presentation of the travesty Shakespheare calls "Macbeth"

The Scottish Play

The new Gargoyles/Pendragon episode

Story idea by Todd Jensen & Kathy Pogge

Illustrations by Rene "Damocles" Modesto

Written by Melissa "Merlin Missy" Wilson

Happy Reading!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, November 8, 1998 06:35:22 PM
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