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Aaaaaaaaaaaand.... Midnight. Hmm... Now where's this week's episode?
Robby
Monday, January 18, 1999 12:00:01 AM
IP: spider-we011.proxy.aol.com
**RP!**
[On the Dark Star, it has been determined that the spy is Dr. Thaddeus Morton, the head of the station's bio-research department. There's a stationwide APB out for him, and every security agent on the station is hunting him down.]
**PAUSE RP!**
Quote>
"There must be some way to get this kind of money [needed for our latest plan] without working for Eisner."
~Brain (yes, THAT one)
Kitainia> $Fisk, Cage, Thomas, Porter, and McBeal have raised their rates? Hm, maybe you could have Kenny sue them. :) j/k$
Serenity> What does mata ne mean? It sounds kewl.
The new Sonic cartoon> The plot is vaguely interesting, but I find it incomprehensibly pathetic that they've given Sonic a band. Yeesh.
jILLybEAn> Welcome to the asylum!
Todd> <<(I'm amazed, for that matter, that they actually got away with Farragut's "d-mn" in the Mobile Bay scene on an afternoon kiddie cartoon).>> Heh, you'd be surprised what WB puts its censors through. One episode of Animaniacs had to be renamed and rewritten because of repeated references to death. It was the one where Wakko eats himself to death in a Swedish meatball contest. That was an interesting ep, even though the Grim Reaper doesn't have a Swedish accent in my ficverse.
I saw the first part of the Batman Beyond series premiere this morning. My one complaint: The theme song. I *despise* rock; they should have gone with something more neo-Gothic.
Sailor Moon> Well, the series kind of earned some respect from me when they actually showed blood in one ep. BTW, any Sailor Moon fans in here should check out a fic in the archive (if it's still there) called something like "The Energy" or something. Five Japanese exchange students are given room and board by a generous industrialist. ^_^
Swat Kats> I saw a few eps of that, but I lost it when it was rescheduled. Why do all the kewl shows get moved or cancelled in their prime? My favorite aspect of that show: the gadgetry. I love tech stuff.
Stephen> I heard that SJ's dad also had a non-villainous role in the Sierra game Gabriel Knight: Sins Of The Fathers, but I could be mistaken.
Fleur> Welcome back dear!
I remember Exosquad. As I said, I adore tech stuff, and I think I have every Exosquad toy they made. (I collect things like that. You should see my Star Wars Action Fleet collection.)
**RESUME RP!**
[A search team enters a secluded computer monitoring room on the Dark Star...to find Dr. Morton sitting in a corner, pale and trembling. He looks rather sick, as though he's been poisoned...]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, January 17, 1999 11:53:52 PM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
9 minutes to midnight. REALLY cutting it close tonight guys.
Robby
Sunday, January 17, 1999 11:51:48 PM
IP: spider-we011.proxy.aol.com
<very wiped-out Jewel enters. for reason why, see ye ole other CR>
Hey, all. Back to Bryn Mawr, deadened from an 11 1/2 hour car ride with my brother, el shmucko. A quick thing to say, then I go night-night, provided it's possible to get to the bed.
Histeria: I find it hilariously funny at times. <g> But then, I'm a History major. It is very reductionsist and does have some historial errors, but then, history, as a field, is continually revising and re-editing itself, so a few things can be overlooked. <smacks head to get out of "historiological-theory mode" before it even starts> My favorite scene in the whole series was one of the two Civil War eps--they had a parody of "Family Feud." The main thing I found funny in the skit was the fact that General Sherman kept lighting things on fire. Sherman, for any who might not know, was the Northern general whose "March to the Sea" campaign consisted of the little firebug burning everything in his path to the ground, including the city of Atlanta.
***Mild X-FIles spoiler (if you kinda squint)***
X-FIles: OK, that's it. Krycek is Kenny. It's the only reason why he keeps coming back when she should be dead or at least serious maimed. I bet if you took off Kenny's orange parka, it'd be Krycek.
***End mild X-Files spoiler***
jewel - [jfaulkne@brynmawr.edu]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 11:45:16 PM
IP: erd-111.brynmawr.edu
Hmm... Twenty minutes till midnight... Cutting the new story close tonight...
Robby
Sunday, January 17, 1999 11:39:34 PM
IP: spider-we011.proxy.aol.com
Hey all,
Fire Storm > Just checked my schedule, and I actually got into that Atomic Weapons class. I'll be sure to keep ya updated :)
Serenity > <Ah, but the Imp's LAST name begins with a "C".... ^_~> Okay, you're off the hook. :) (btw, here's an idea: Save all your spams for the entire year, and on Dec 31st, FWD them all to Mr. Case. Call it a millennium present!)
SWAT Katz > The show kicked @$$. Too bad I can never find the time to hunt down the repeats. As for another great cartoon that I followed with almost as much devotion as Gargoyles... Exosquad. Anybody remember that one?
Todd > RE "Poor Angela" I think he means that he can guess what (who) Brookyln, Broadway, and Lex's wishes would all concern.
Ordell > According to IMDb, Salli did the voice of "Drey-Auc" in the SG-1 episode "Bloodlines." Dunno if that's who you're talking about. I gotta get Showtime.
***WARNING, X-FILES SPOILERS***
For the first episode I've seen in a loooong time, I liked this one. I could have sworn they were going to kill off skinner, and what a way to do it! Devious. Oh, and one more thing: Krycek is the MAN. I love that guy. Probably my favorite character on XF. Every episode he's in seems to stand that far above all the rest (which are, this season, lacking something, I don't know what... coolness, maybe?).
***CLEAR!!!***
Be back after perusing the new ep.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Sunday, January 17, 1999 10:24:28 PM
IP: spider-pa023.proxy.aol.com
*Fleur walks into the Comment Room, carrying a small Norfolk Island Pine in a large pot, which she puts in a corner of the room. Then she grins widely and starts running around hugging everybody.*
I had a fantastic time!! But even though I didn't want to leave, Dorothy was right: There's no place like home. (Plus, I missed you guys. My friends are a crazy enough group of people, but they just don't have the distinctive and highly infectious brand of insanity you find here. :)) Tell you more later!!
TTFN!!
*After hugging a few more people, Fleur bounces out to catch up on the posts she's missed, the latest TGS stories and find out what her RP character is up to. *
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 08:06:25 PM
IP: jupiter.internetopia.net.au
I finally saw Antz yesterday at out $1.50 movie. That is a great film, just not a kid's movie. It had alot of political and humanist themes to it, and the name itself says something......
SwatKATS > I vaugly remember that show, just not enough to have an opinion.
To everyone else who gets all the cool shows on WB > Bite me (that's a joke, don't get mad). I've one episode of Hysteria, and that's it. I can't stand it.
I got a package in the mail from my aunt, it was a (very, very) late Christmas present, which contained the first season of Gargs that Disney put out on those five video tapes. She won't tell me where she got them though......
And a quick question to anyone who knows > is Teal'c's wife on Stargate SG-1 Salli Richardson? I'm pretty sure, because her voice is the same, but I could be wrong.....
Later alls....
Ordell - [jwaltrip@cableone.net]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 07:37:49 PM
IP: ppp-81.ode.cableone.net
STEPHEN - Tim Curry also did another non-villainous role, according to what I've heard, in an animated adaptation of "Prince Valiant" on the Family Channel: he played the part of Sir Gawain. (I never saw the series, but Constance Cochran did and mentioned that fact once).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, January 17, 1999 07:37:36 PM
IP: pn9-ppp-209.primary.net
Greetings all... Back from another weekend of fun working on stories, and catching the NFC Championship ending. Gotta luv the Falcs! 1st time in Franchise history they get a shot at the Super Bowl! (just wish it had been Tampa Bay instead!)...
Serenity> Ah, a Sailor Moon fan! <gives the secret Moonie High-sign! (chuckle!)> Seriously, it's good to see another Sailor Moon fan! Be sure to go back and check out "Disobediences" in the past eps for Season 2. Must remember to get my own Sailor Moon Fan-fic 2 parter done sometime! :)
SWAT Kats> Ah, yes! One of my other favorite shows! Great action, and I love the by-play between Chance and Jake (T-Bone and Razor). Speaking of which, if anyone is interested, I have a Gargs/Swat Kats crossover on my old site, but it's also in a couple of back issues of Avalon Mists. Go to the Gargoyles-Fan Site to see.
New Sonic Cartoon> I liked both of the series - the "spoony" one with Scratch and the other robot, and the dark one with Sally, Bunny, Antone, and the entire resistance. Funny thing is, they did a sort of a "back to the past" ep where Sally and Sonic met everyone that was around before Robotnik took over the kingdom from Sally's father... and the kicker was the King was voiced by Tim Curry! The first time I ever heard him doing a non-villain role! (grins at SJ, "Seems your dad CAN be a good guy when he wants to!").
JUST FOR KICKS> I had a doodlebug bite me the other day, and a Pic was the result - hand-drawn, scanned, then colored/detailed in Photoshop. Clickie my name for a look-see. What do you all think?
That's all for now... Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, January 17, 1999 07:25:24 PM
IP: m59.ieway.com
"Its not funny if you have to explain the punchline!" -The Joker, in the episode Mad Love
My, that was a good episode. One of the top five Batman episodes ever, and it would probably be first if they had the old animation style. (Sacrilidge, it had blood!)
jILLybEAn- Hi! How long have you been lurking?
Ed- Actually, the Saturday Sonic cartoon had a ton of advancement. There was an ongoing plot throughout the second season. New characters and minor personality conflicts all the time. It didn't get around to bringing in Knuckles, Amy, or Nack because it was cut short. They had plans for all three in Season 3, and Mecha Sonic as well... (He had a cameo at the end in what turned out to be the series finale)
Todd- Actually, Histeria DIDN'T get away with the "Damn the torpedos" bit. The first time the episode aired, the quote popped up at least six times, as many as eight times if I remember correctly. Last time I saw it, the quote was only used twice.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 07:04:49 PM
IP: spider-wg062.proxy.aol.com
ED - Just out of curiosity, what did you mean by "poor Angela" (in the bit about if each of the main characters were granted a wish)?
HISTERIA - I've seen this one too, and I'll agree that it doesn't do that well as educational programming. It has its moments (a particular favorite bit of mine is an account of the Tudors from Henry VII to Elizabeth I, sung to the tune of "Greensleeves"; I've always been fond of English history), but there are too many cases of its making historical boners and anachronisms to really function there. Although I also found the "Lydia Karaoke" scenes amusing. (I'm amazed, for that matter, that they actually got away with Farragut's "d-mn" in the Mobile Bay scene on an afternoon kiddie cartoon).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, January 17, 1999 06:26:43 PM
IP: pn9-ppp-209.primary.net
Hi guys. Glad to see the power cut’s over.
DumlaoX: Heh… power ‘outage’… some of those Americanisms make me laugh… heh… Nice archive incidentally, and I prefer the first colour scheme…
Serenity: Lots of ideas… hmm…
If Elisa was Guinevere reborn, how would she know it?
If Puck failed in his duty to protect Alexander, then I’m betting he’s make massive strides to undo the damage. I doubt anything would come to Oberon’s attention though, even despite the fact that we know Owen remains still until 2158, presumably meaning he doesn’t get something worse than banishment before then.
If Hudson was somehow rejuvenated, he might actually come on the patrols once in a while.
I think you’ll find that in “Unto each other’s fates resigned,” the prophecy of their binding in CITY OF STONE indicates that the sisters were telling the truth. Very difficult to write around that.
If Xanatos gained immortality through his father’s death, you’d end up with a Xanatos as corrupt as the FUTURE TENSE computer creation.
If Oberon died, Titania, for the short term at least, would become the ruler of Avalon. I think life for the Third Race would largely improve.
Who said Griff and Una already don’t have an egg?
If one of the gargoyles became a religious zealot, they’d be in their rights so to do.
If aliens invaded the Earth, they’d be called the Space Spawn by all accounts.
If Fox and Xanatos had more children, they wouldn’t be paying much attention to Greg’s master plan. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but that means Norman Bates could turn up, or anything equally ridiculous.
If each of the main characters had one wish come true… poor Angela.
Todd: I think the implication was that Wyvern was abandoned because of the interference of Hakon and the Captain. Although that doesn’t mean to say *nobody* came.
Airwalker: Well, actually, if you’re near the sea and can muster a few boats you’re onto a rather nifty escape route. Of course, that’s assuming there’s a way for humans to get down the cliff, like a passage or something.
Kitania: More what-ifs… hmm…
If Derek met the Gargoyles before Elisa, she’d have found out by the end of season 1.
If Beth did, all the Mazas would know of them, and several others she might slip it to besides.
If it was Matt, he’d be fascinated, and keep the secret as well as Elisa did up until REVELATIONS.
Xanatos and Fox would have left if Goliath had left them there, because Goliath hadn’t met them at the time of 1994.
Sonic cartoon: Hmm… I remember the one they showed at 9.30 and then at 7.15, with it all dark and moody. That was fun, and I never saw the last half of a two part story. The other one was fairly mediocre although I found one where they went hunting Chaos Emeralds OK. Both lacked any advancement, like the use of characters like Nack, Knuckles and Amy. Why don’t they stylise a new series around the Sonic Adventure new look characters, with more reckless characters. And the green/blue/purple eyes for Sonic, Tails and Knuckles. Hmm…
Wish they’d give NiGHTS more footage. If only the kids were any different or worth playing, that game would be better than Sonic.
Doug: Yeah, fine :) Just so long as you try to keep the size in check I don’t have a problem!
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 06:16:35 PM
IP: p16-cassowary-gui.tch.virgin.net
Hello, everyone! My name's Jill; long-time lurker, first-time poster. ;o) I was going to wait 'till tomorrow to post so I could comment on the new TGS ep, but SWAT Kats was mentioned, so I couldn't resist...
SOROW> I believe I still have every episode of SK on tape. It was a darn cool show, I must say. But then, I believe the story goes something like this: Everything was going along peachy, ratings were well and good - but then Mr. Ted Turner decided the SWAT Kats merchandise wasn't selling, and pulled the plug on the show. But, not like I hold a grudge or anythi- AAARGH! STUPID, RICH, STUPID-HEAD MAN!!!!!! Well, still, I enjoyed that show.
Mighty Max> I used to watch this before school every morning while eating my cereal. =o) Don't really remember it that well, though. (I DO remember going around the rest of the day singing the theme song, though...)
So ends my very first post ever. I'm so proud of myself. I hope I did everything right...I hope they can read the color I chose...I hope I don't double post! AAAAAAH! Heh, okay, I should go now. (stupid neurosis.)
{Next time: Actual TGS-RELATED MATERIAL!! WOOHOO!}
Lots of love,
~Jill
jILLybEAn - [jbruhn@bendnet.com]
Bend, OR, U.S.A.
Sunday, January 17, 1999 05:17:00 PM
IP: b213.bendnet.com
Sonic cartoon- What really ticks me off about it is, I love Sonic, (I have every flippin' game and comic book...)and he's getting another worthless cartoon... They could renew the good one, but nooooo...
If Derek met the clan first- Then Elisa would be a bat winged mutate named Talon when Xanatos used her to get at her brother.
Elisa's pet name- Cagney of course. Gee, why is this so hard for you people?
Serenity- Another Sailor Moon fan eh? Spiffy.
Swatcats- Oh yeah... Another great show. I have the entire first season of that on tape too... Keep meaning to tape season 2 off Cartoon Network, but I keep forgetting to do so... Probably just as well, my collection is in the hundreds anyway...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 04:57:10 PM
IP: spider-wk073.proxy.aol.com
Somebody mentioned Histeria! That show makes me laugh my a** off. Especially when Rob Paulsen and Jeff Bennett start arguing with each other :)
Robby> Brother, I would die to get copies of all those series. Do you remember some cartoon series named Swat Katz? It was only on for a little while and I was wondering what ever happened to it. It was cooooool.
Well, I have to write a very looooooong essay on Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel so I better force myself to do it.
SOROW
Sunday, January 17, 1999 01:05:48 PM
IP: usr1-3-dialup20.mix1.irving.cw.net
Konnichiwa!
*munches welcome-cookie* Thanks Ravyn!
Steve> <<The Imp's name is Steve> I think i'll let this one slide, just this once :) > {g} Ah, but the Imp's LAST name begins with a "C".... ^_~
Carolynn> <Spiffy name.> Thanks! < What inspired it?> Queen Serenity and NeoQueen Serenity (check the email addy :) from Sailor Moon.
I'd write more, but I've got to leave for work. Mata ne!
Serenity - [NeoQueen39@aol.com]
Orlando, FL
Sunday, January 17, 1999 12:35:00 PM
IP: spider-te043.proxy.aol.com
**RP WARNING**
At Thailog's secret base, the bad guys are discussing their plans. "So I have sent Captain Preston and several of my troops to the Baja in Mexico," General Zale is saying. "They should carry out our operation there." "Excellent," Thailog nods. "By the way, our sensors have detected that the Dark Star has come out of hyperspace." "Yes, I know. But we can't attack it now. Maybe after the fleet goes away. I instructed our spy to place a hyperspace homing beacon on the station. We can activate it after the fleet leaves, and easily find the station then. After that, we just send in Serpent's team and they'll never know what hit them." "Good," Thailog nods, turning to Asil. "Is your and Guod's team ready to attack NORAD?"
The screen shifts to the TGS CR, where Kitainia and Kenny the Lawyer are going over a collection of briefs. "Okay," Kenny is telling his client, "I took testimony from Janice, and all the Ravens with you. Now all that's left are Doug and Coyote's parties, and Traveler. The last should be entertaining." He grins. Kitainia smiles back and says, "Good, Kenny. I think with you on our side we may be able to win this case." The lawyer shrugs. "I don't care if we win or lose, either way I still get paid. By the way, why are you using me instead of that firm you usually work with?" "Fisk, Cage, Thomas, Porter, and McBeal? They've majorly upped their fees recently, we're boycotting the firm in protest. We also thought it would be more entertaining if we worked with you instead." Kenny nods. "I shall try to make it so." Kitainia smiles again, and turns to the Comment Room.
**END RP 1ST HALF**
Elisa's Pet Name: I'm with the side that doesn't want Goliath to pick one. We've never heard him call her anything besides Elisa, things should stay that way, IMO.
Mr. Dis Connect: This guy is sorely needed in here, I know how frustrated people can get with computers sometimes. But he should not replace Kenny, who of course is only going on vacation to help us in the RP. The TGS Lawyer is a treasure of this room, and has been so since his creation. Treasures should not be forgotten or replaced. :)
Taleweaver: No wonder Joe Friday had such a boring life. <very evil grin>
Serenity: Glad your sanity was already gone when you came in here, it should make your posts even more interesting. Don't worry, you aren't the only one who went nuts before they started posting here. I did too. However, I think I've gotten crazier since I discovered this place. Weird, very weird. :)
SJ: We shall miss you. Please come back as soon as you can, we like your entertaining RP bits and postings. See you whenever!
Mighty Max: Ah, fond memories. That was a good cartoon. I liked the mythology elements in there, Tim Curry as Skullmaster, and all the characters except one (that one was Jiffy, who I would like to murder if I ever met someone like her IRL). Too bad they had to take it off the air, oh well, at least it had a good ending, IMO.
Steve: Glad you're still playing paintball, I would hate for the jerk to have won (by driving you off the field). Thanks for your Thin Red Line commentary, now Doug and I will make doubly sure to not go see that flick.
What-ifs:
1. What if Derek was the first to meet the clan and not Elisa?
2. What if it was Beth? Or Matt? (I think I already know what would happen if he met the clan first. :)
3. What if Goliath did leave Xanatos and Fox in the past in "Vows?"
Aerie: Glad you're making progress on the thief situation, I wish you continued luck in catching the guy. Also glad we were able to cheer up your friend.
New Sonic Cartoon: To quote Doug, heavy machine gun please. <Kenny hands her a heavy machine gun, with which Kitainia blows away Sonic, Manic, and Sonia before she collapses under the weight> Ugh, heavier than I thought it would be. I think from now on I'll stick to Steamer and my borrowed laser gun. Okay, my opinion of this pathetic new cartoon has now been expressed. Next topic.
Hysteria: I hate that show, enough said. Let's just say I find myself unable to appreciate the humor of it with anything but disgust. The censor bits are kinda okay, but the rest does not deserve to be called educational programming.
Okay, that's all for tonight. I have to get some sleep. The new semester starts Tuesday and I have 8 am classes all week. <growls a long rant about TEX> Tonight I had to stay up doing one last bit of partying before school begins again, it was worth it. Now good night.
**NO ENDING RP TONIGHT, I'M TOO TIRED**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 06:26:29 AM
IP: dal-qbu-zop-vty26.as.wcom.net
** SLICE OF CR LIFE **
Robby enters through one of the rooms many portals, greeting the gators, the shrink, and Mr. Dis Connect, who is currently in considerable pain after Wilek's post, but healing just fine. Robby is wheeling a large box on a cart. He comes to a stop , and pulls the box off the cart. He immediatley unpacks a cappucino machine. "Someone said we need one of these?"
** END SLICE OF CR LIFE **
Wilek- Thats why I introdced Mr. Dis Connect... Its much more theraputic to kill him in revenge than to kill Kenny just for the sake of killing him... Nice death you delivered by the way. And nice to see Shenzi again.
Xena- Hey, at least you came back! Don't worry about not posting often, it happens. Some people have lives, unlike us frequent posters... But the real action HAS started all ready. If you mean, when does the war start? Well... I'm not allowed to tell... But it may be sooner than you think...
Steve- Thanks for saving me a few bucks. I was going to go see a Thin Red Line on Monday...
Tim- Nice dream. Wish it was reality. Sice most of the gargs would have to be animatronic anyway, its feasible that the voice artists could all take part in the fun...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 02:15:13 AM
IP: spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com
Time Dancer> I suppose we better wrap up this Brooklyn/time travel arguement. I agree with Taleweaver statement. The whole "future is unchangeable" idea is defeatest. If it's going to happen anyways, what's the point? If I was that kind of person, I probably would of given up on my life ago.
But I'm not that kind of person. I've never been much of a statistic. I've been through depression. I'm somewhat overweight. My romance life is non-existant. I've always been an outsider. I have to go to a school full of jerks( 30% of the students have been on parole), as a result, my parents had to spend over $600 in medication and thearapy so I could deal with the mental problems of my classmates:) But, thanks to my sense of humuor and a couple of good friends, I get through.
And I also know that because of -- Goddamnit! My Computer cut me off again!
As I was saying, I know that because of my experiences, I will become a better person in the long run. In other words, while some of my peers are still earning minimum wage, smoking crack, and suffering from some kind of sexually transmitted disease at the age of 30, I'll be thin, have a great job, and have a hot looking wife:)
Which is probably why I'm so defensive about this Lexington thing. I relate to his situation. And if this dirty little profacy(sp?) does come true, I assure you I'll be kicking and screaming the whole way:)
And speaking of weirdos, last night, I had a dream that Stanley Kubric was directing the Gargoyles movie! I'm Serious! Mary Hart from "Entertainment Tonight" was there on the set doing a special segment on the post-production of the film. Bill Fagerbakke and Brigette Bako were in front of the camera sans costumes doing a screen test. There was a woman dressed up in an incomplete looking Demona costume that was designed to let the the wings and tail move independently. I briefly saw someone in an Goliath looking costume and I may have seen Angela. Everything had a colorful "Blade Runner" sort of appearence. It then seems like they ran through a series of short clips from what they had from the movie so far. It included a clip of Lex getting pounced by some alien-ish doglike creatures.
Maybe I shouldn't take those Ginkgo Biloba tablets before going to bed.
Stanley Kubrick directing the Gargoyles movie? Is it a dream... or a profecy?
Tim Phipps
Sunday, January 17, 1999 02:05:14 AM
IP: s15-onawa.pionet.net
Hey all.
Just got back from a showing of "The Thin Red Line." Well, not RIGHT back, it ended a while ago, but I needed the time to compose my thoughts about it. Yeah, done. This just about sums up my opinion of one of the most hyped pictures of the year:
TERRIBLE.
That's right, I absolutely hated it. I'll go into more detail, but that will require the use of...
***SPOILERS FOR AND RANTING ABOUT TTRL***
I first saw the coming attraction to this movie last year, and immediately thought: wow. What a cast. This HAS to be great. I had already seen "Saving Private Ryan" twice and loved it, and I thought this film could come close to topping it. So did USA Today, who in their Dec. 11th issue ran on about how TTRL could be the movie to topple SPR for the coveted Best Picture Oscar. I went into the theater with my dad, anxious to see what others at "selected theaters" had already - apparantly - enjoyed.
First of all, I was the youngest person in the theater. The old lady behind us would jump and scream whenever somebody got shot, stabbed, or hit by artillery. Nevermind that she KNEW she was going to see a movie about the invasion of Guadalcanal, or even a movie about WAR in general. C'mon, whaddya expect? The GIs and the Japanese will decide the ownership of the island over a game of baseball?
Anyway, the movie. I honestly have know idea What The F*** Terrence Malick was thinking when he put this thing together. It was one-third war flick, one-third National Geographic documentary on Polynesian society, and one-third... I can't even describe it. Though the term "soldiers discussing religious experiences/the nature of war/humanity in general to the audience in drawn-out asides" fits the bill.
In essence this was the only aspect of the movie that realistically depicted war. "Long periods of intense boredom punctuated by short periods of sheer terror." Were it not for a full bladder from overpriced concession stand Coke, I probably would have drifted off into dreamland during the last 30 minutes of this 2 hour, 50 minute picture.
As for the cast, one of the only enjoyable things one can do while viewing TTRL is pick out the cameos by all the big stars. John Travolta, George Clooney, John Cusak, Woody Harrelson. None have more than a 10-minute role in the film, which brings me to another point.
Had the creators broken the movie up into separate sections and shown them individually, some sense might have been garnished from the convoluted mess. I can remember two main plots, thinly connected by an excellent performance by Sean Penn, plus a number of flashback sequences, asides, and sub-plots that all detracted from the movie's continuity and impact.
The asides were most irritating. Most of the time, when a character is talking to himself (and the audience), reflecting on the triviality of human life or the effects of war on nature, etc, the message is supposed to carry some sort of meaning. But in the case of TTRL, neither I, nor my father, nor seemingly anybody in the crowded theater, could pick one up.
Indeed, had all the junk between action sequences been cut out completely, you would have had a very good hour-long WWII story. Unfortunately, all of that was lost in the twisting and turning of the movie. You had your "Good Captain versus Evil Colonel" routine, and your "Young Private Redeems Himself in the Eyes of His Sergeant" routine, and those were done very well. Of course waaaay too much of the movie focused on the private's thoughts, screwed-up as they were, and the flashbacks to his time with his wife (which always came at exactly the wrong time, and lasted entirely too long).
Anyway, I just needed to let off some steam about spending 8 bucks and three hours watching what my father so eloquently described as "the WORST movie I've ever seen." We definitely should've heeded the words of the folks who were leaving the previous showing as we came in: "Go home now. You'll be better off that way. Just step out of line and leave." Heh. And to think, I could have saved the CR the space and posted to an AOL newsgroup about the movie... of course that would have brought about entirely too much drivel and not a shred of intelligent conversation, so... flame me! Please! I hated what was supposed to be a great movie!
***END RANT AND SPOILERS***
Heh. The only other good part of the movie was seeing the trailer for "A Midsummer Night's Dream," which looks great. Michelle Pfeiffer as Titania, Calista Flockhart as Helena, Kevin Kline as Bottom, and Stanley Tucci as our favorite fey Puck. Looks like it'll be a blast.
'Night all.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Sunday, January 17, 1999 01:38:47 AM
IP: spider-pa072.proxy.aol.com
Carolynn> They actually had this funny skit on Hysteria where they had a viking named Hakon. He was being interviewed about naming weapons, and I think he started a soap opera between two male swords fighting over a female sword...
Trent... - [oh, God. not him again.]
Sunday, January 17, 1999 12:12:59 AM
IP: 147.226.113.249
Hi, guys! Sorry that I've not submit anything for a while I've been _very_ busy. But I still kept up with TGS stories. So far not bad, I would like to know the real action starts. And I can not wait until Timedancer season 2 starts.
As for the latest episode "Nocturne" was pretty good, espesially with Brook and his family at the museum. The other good scene was with Lex and Liz. The writers are very creative.
Anyway, I have to go now. I'll talk to you all again soon.
Bye for now.
Xena
N.Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Saturday, January 16, 1999 11:56:55 PM
IP: ppp-067.m4-1.van.ican.net
Brooklyn< Besides the possibility (the LIKELY possibility) that Brooklyn is lying his tail off, he could also have repressed certain memories. Some of the stuff he went through was a bit high on the adrenaline level (I'm surprised he didn't pop an artery or something; If I had run into half the stuff he did, like pirates or ghosts, I'd be seeing Scratchy every lunch break). Or even knowing (or seeing) someone he knew dying or killed could have caused his mind to blank out. People under enormous amounts of stress/emotional pain/terror often due that to help themselves deal. Sort of like denial.
*throws two pennies onto the CR coffee table*
Hey, we need a cappucino machine in here *heads out the door*
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 11:45:21 PM
IP: spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com
Wilek< *heh* Thanks for the idea in the first place :) That was me! I love Hysteria!! My Journalism teacher had to separate my friend and me because we kept doing stupid quotes from that show during class.
"Why do they call him Lucky Bob?"
"Because he was really lucky when he coughed up that lung."
"Hi-ho!" (that and Monty Python quotes :) "That IS the monster ...") But let's not get the room started on Monty Python again :)
I love Home Alone, too. Never saw the third one, and don't plan on it. Home Alone without Macualy and Harry and Marv ain't the same, I tell ya! (International terrorists interested in a kid's toy car because it has a computer microchip in it? Eh ... no comment)
Hysteria may not be an Animaniacs ("I don't know vut to say, ze monkeys won't do-" "Don't know what to say, the monkeys won't do!")
(and my personal favorite)
Mobster: "Boys, show these kids the door"
Yakko: "That's okay, we can see it from here."
Oh, yeah, back to Hysteria.
Hysteria may not be an Animaniacs, but that show makes me smile and sometimes break up laughing ("I claim this cat for America!" *slamming down flag, cat screams* "Maybe not").
The Viking bit made me break up laughing, because it made me think of Awakenings. Can't you see it?
Hakon: "We need a ship that will inspire fear in our victims. It needs to have a masthead of a ... a dragon or something."
Shady Viking Ship salesman: "Oooooh! I have just the thing for YOU, sir! I ferocious fire-breathing dragon-type, yet!"
*shows him a ship with the masthead of a butterfly*
Hakon: "That is not a dragon! It's a cute itty bitty butterfly!"
Shady Viking Ship salesman: "Dragon"
Hakon: "Butterfly"
Shady Viking Ship salesman: "Dragon"
Hakon: "Dragon?! It's a butterfly! Can't you see it?" *noticing the rest of the ships have mastheads of puppies and duckies and kitties* "Who does your work? These look like they were designed by a three-year-old!"
Shady Viking Ship salesman: "What? That's just crazy! I doubt if he's more than 9 months!"
Big Fat Baby *paintbrush and wood tools in hand*: "Goo-goo!"
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 11:39:18 PM
IP: spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com
**BEGIN, NOT A REAL RP, BUT AN INTERNET-RELATED RANT AND ELABORATE DEATH FOR YOUR FRIEND AND MINE, MR. DIS CONNECT**
Guess what, all. Sometime last night, right after I finished posting, Mr. DC stopped by my ISP and decided not to let me into ANY internet site except my ISP's hyper-lame homepage. DC, this one's for you. [Wilek and Dark Mage Wilek enter the room through one of Traveler's portals. The Dark Mage telekinetically pins DC to the wall and Wilek guts him with a chainsaw. He then throws DC out a closed window, breaking it and hurting DC even more. The CR is on the 30th floor, BTW. On his way down, he's impaled and sliced in half by the exceptionally pointy wingtips of a TIE Defender assigned to protect the CR from being endangered by the RP. Mr. DC's still-conscious upper half falls into a spatial rift that leads into Jackal and Hyena's NYC apartment. Hyena pulls Mr. DC's head off and strips his skeleton of all the meat and such; Jackal drop-kicks DC's still-conscious head out the window, whereupon it lands in the street and is run over by a car. Just then, Shenzi The Caterer comes into the CR with a plate of steak sandwiches.] Sorry that was so long, but I am very ticked off at this idiot. I feel much better now...[Wilek and Dark Mage Wilek take some sandwiches and return to the Dark Star.]
**END WHATEVER THAT WAS**
I was just at the GFW. ALL my stories are gone. Oh well, the GFW was just for backup purposes anyhow.
Robby> <<Brook doesn't talk about his travels to the past because that would reveal he remembered stuff>> Oh, I get it now. Why didn't I realize that before. Thanks. And your animation collection...I'M NOT WORTHY! I'M NOT WORTHY! I'M NOT WORTHY! :)
Carolynn> Glad you like the idea; I'll have to talk Miriam's organization into sending you the necessary equipment. :) I got the idea from the Home Alone movies; Kevin set a rather primitive version of this trap for the burglars. I like the system you and your friends worked out for checking up on your stuff.
WHO SAID HYSTERIA! :) I LOVE that show; it's Warner's best work since Animaniacs and Pinky And The Brain.
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:23:24 PM
IP: tnt-3-10-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
I'm suddenly very afraid about the fate of my favorite blue hedgehog Sonic. Click on my name to find out why. (A brother named Manic, a sister named Sonia, and they play in a band? Worse, all the characters I liked are totally gone? I'm afraid... Very, very afraid...)
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 09:40:29 PM
IP: spider-wm072.proxy.aol.com
"Always the fooler, never the fool. What am I saying?" -Mighty Max
Ah, the first season of Mighty Max was great. Brought back some great memories... Tommarrow I watch half of the second season... Unless I decide to watch one of my other collections instead... (I have complete runs of Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Talespin, Goof Troop, Gargoyles, Mighty Ducks, Timon and Pumbaa, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mighty Max, Biker Mice From Mars, The Slayers, Treasure Island, Road Rovers, Beast Wars, War Planets, Sailor Moon, Dragonball Z, and Robotech. Dang I have a lot of series... And thats not counting my incomplete runs of Batman TAS, Animaniacs, ReBoot, Men In Black and Invasion America!) Hmm... Technically, I have the complete run of Batman Beyond at this point as well... (Think thats bad? That's not even going into my animated MOVIE collection!)
Hysteria- I wouldn't call myself a fan, a lot of the episodes are complete dreck. But some of the characters I like, (Froggo for some reason) and I find my self going into a Lucky Bob immpression at times... (You are correct sir!) But the show redeems itself with the censor bits, ("Damn the torpedoes!" and the vomitorium sketch leap to mind...) And the civil war documentary where the violin music drove everyone insane was also a hoot... Good show, but Animaniacs its not.
Hmm... I posted all this earlier, but aparrently the room didn't get it. Side effects of the collapse from the other day maybe?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 09:18:15 PM
IP: spider-wm072.proxy.aol.com
**RP!!**
**The screen lights up to reveal the convertible pulling to a stop alongside a Mexican road. Coyote and Ravyn are getting out of the car, approaching a distortion behind them.**
Okay, time to decloak!
**The distortion suddenly turns into the tank. The Gearhead is in the Commander's Seat, Buick behind the controls.**
<"Thanks for stopping ... I don't think I could've handled the smell much longer.">
*sniffs* Hmm ... that is a strange smell.
**Jason pops his head up from the hatchway** <"That ain't me, Coyote.">
Hmm ... I think I know this smell ...
**PAUSE RP!!**
GargWeb power outage: Well ... this certainly isn't leaving Skydancer very happy ... considering the only ones of my fics left at GFW are the first nine!!! (FYI, she uploads them for me because I don't have the right version of IE.)
Mighty Max: Hmm .... never really saw the series ... a local station here shows old reruns at 7AM on weekdays, maybe I should try it on for size ... considering they show it before "Pokemon," I don't think I would mind it much ...
Fire Storm, Carolynn: Interesting take on my What If's. Thought it would bring up some interesting situations.
SOROW: No problem, take yer time.
Ravyn: Same thing applies ... no problem, take yer time. ;)
**RESUME RP!!**
**Coyote sniffs further into the tank, toward the cloaking device.**
<"Well?">
Jason, it's not you. **Coyote reaches forward, grabbing something obscured by distorted light. He wraps his arms around it.** Okay, show yerself!!!
**The distortion becomes a human figure. It's Harry, the Medium Head Boy ... but he's been Borgified, as well.**
Ohhhh, lordy!! **listens outside** What's that?!
<"Coyote, you'd better get up here! There's an army in the distance making a march for my convertible!!!">
**Coyote pops his head out of the hatch, looking to the distance.** Uh oh ... we had trouble dealing with them with Doug's group ... how will we take them alone?
**The screen chooses this inconvenient time to wink off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, January 16, 1999 09:17:27 PM
IP: modem15.i-is.com
**RP!**
**Ravyn's convertible is zooming down the highway, with the tank following behind it. Now that they're miles past the border station, Ravyn laughs wildly. "I can't believe that worked!" She shouts with a wide grin. "Did you see the way those guards looked after we totalled their shack?"
From the passenger's seat, Coyote smiles. Ravyn turns to make some comments.** **END RP FOR NOW**
**BEGIN TGS SPOILERS!**
Yes, I know, I'm slow. I finally got to read "Nocturne." Wonderful job, TGS people!!! It was wonderfully romantic, and I could understand why Elisa was on edge all night. Lex and Liz were cute too, but Sara and Matt almost stole the spotlight. They make a great pair. :) Great job!!!!
**END TGS SPOILERS!!!**
Serenity> Welcome! Hope you enjoy yourself here! *hands her a welcome-cookie* :)
Christine> I liked "The Scottish Rogue!" It was a great story, and I could almost picture it like an episode of Highlander. Good job!!! :)
**MORE RP!**
**Ravyn and Coyote are still driving along. Suddenly, a wide grin lights up Rav's face. "I recognize where we are now!" She says happily. Pointing off to the horizon, she says, "I must've seen those mountains a thousand times. They're right near where I lived!"
Coyote is about to say something when he's interrupted by a call from the tank. "Everything all right back there?" He asks. The Gearhead's voice comes on, asking, "Hey, Ravyn, you wouldn't happen to have an air freshener, would you? Jason's at it again..."
Ravyn laughs, and the convertible continues driving through the desert...** **END RP!!!**
Ravyn Maza
Sierra Vista, Arizona
Saturday, January 16, 1999 08:43:37 PM
IP: svm-ts4-17.c2i2.com
Hi-ho, everybody!
Robby< Hey, are you a Hysteria fan? You used one of the quotes in one of your posts :) ("Yes, that is correct, sir!")
Serenity< Spiffy name. What inspired it? Anyway, welcome to the room :) Grab some popcorn and enjoy :D
<<Carolynn: Get a camcorder to watch your bags. (At worst, you can use to footage to get money on the net! <G>) >>
Firestorm, please schedule an appointment with the CR shrink before you exit the door :) (Though I probably would get paid for doing that ... *shakes herself* Hey! You've twisted my mind! :D)
Flame thrower< *L* Kelly thinks it'd be too messy. My response: "So they'd get a really nice tan. Now fork over the heat-activated alarms". I like the idea though; I'll use it on my room whenever my sisters decided to go through my hard drive.
Speaking of alarm systems, thanks for all your suggestions and support, guys (though some ideas had to be discarded since they'd be ground for suing if we actually employed them :) Too bad. I liked the flame-thrower-alarm-idea, dammit!!)
I wrote down all the suggestions and showed them to Kelly and the girls. You guys will be happy to know we took some of your advice. Kelly has a friend who is partly friends with the bad crowd in our gym class, and so we now have a spy who's all ears for any news on the thefts. Meanwhile, since there's four different classes in one gym period, the teachers wouldn't notice one or two girls per class disappear during the period to get a drink or go to the bathroom (and cut through the locker room to check up on it in the process). There's ten of us in our group, so we'll be working in shifts. Also, one of the girls on the volleyball team has a big locker, and she's letting Kelly stuff her bag in there for sakekeeping. I told Kelly how supportive all you guys were, and she was real cheered up. The whole thing had her pretty bummed.
Pet names for Elisa? Ugh, I hope Goliath just calls her Elisa :) What else is there, Poopsie? I doubt he'd call her Angel of the Night. That title formally belonged to Demona. While she and Goliath are old flames, calling someone else that would have to bring back painful memories (besides, ironically, his Angel soon became a Fallen Angel, if you get my meaning). Too much of a tempt of Fate there. And Fate seems to be too prevalent in the Gargoyles universe to take that chance.
<<What if The Mirror was irriversable>>
This is New York. Would anyone notice?
It would also be a major site for the next taping of "Sightings". They'd call in the national guard or put the country on alert or something. 10 million people suddenly sprouting wings and fangs would have to be an alarm call for some sort of "epidemic".
<<1) Elisa's injuries from Broadway's accidental shooting had left her unable to return to work? >>
She never would have met Jason Canmore and she never would have gone on the Avalon tour (depends on how bad her injuries were for the latter). Broadway also would never forgive himself. Also, Elisa wouldn't last five seconds with Demona in the future.
<<Chavez had been the first to meet the Gargs, rather than Elisa? >>
Chavez might be the one calling Goliath Poopsie instead :) (I was kidding!) If you truly believe in Fate, Elisa and Goliath would have ended up meeting and falling in love, anyway. Their personalities are really what matters, not how they meet. Or maybe not. The clan probably would have been closer to whoever they formed the biggest bond with, which would probably have been the first person they met. 'Sides, Chavez doesn't seem to match up with Elisa's street-smart-personality. I don't know if many of Elisa's solutions to many problems the clan faced would have come up at all if Chavez had to have thought of them.
<< Sorry, Steve's right- if you know, you die. ;)>>
Thanks, Jeb. Love you, too, man :)
Dinner-time! *rockets for the door* Bye, guys! And thank you!!
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 05:51:08 PM
IP: spider-tl053.proxy.aol.com
Sorry I haven't been talking for a while, but school has been a living hell right now. I don't have a lot of time so....TGS story was great, Brooklyn remembers everything, and I can't wait for the new ep! OK, bye!
SOROW
Saturday, January 16, 1999 04:19:20 PM
IP: usr2-3-dialup30.mix1.irving.cw.net
DumlaoX take your time fixing the Elisagif. I have it bookmarked and can visit it any time now. Thanks for thinking of me though.
Biker Mice from Mars Want the webring or fanfic address?
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 04:16:19 PM
IP: proxy-311.public.rwc.webtv.net
Good Morning all!!!
(just a quick post today, I'll be back later with some interesting news)
Wilek:(AOL CD'S) don't think of them as an annoying storage problem; think of them as drink-coasters by mail...
Goodnight all!!!
Jonathan
NEW ZEALANDSaturday, January 16, 1999 12:53:29 PM
IP: wh20-6.wave.co.nz
OK, quick announcement to make.
It was a power outage that took out both servers Mr. Chris Rogers runs for us gargs organizations. Power went back up but technical difficulties have ensued. As you see, most things have gone on-line but parts such as the fanfic archive, the TGS site, and the pics for the CR are missing. Rest assured that our web guru is working as fast as he can to resolve the problem. We thank you for your time.
BTW, there are little bugs in the pages (yeah, I know, the elisa.gif problem). They will be fixed as soon as possible. Hopefully this 3 day weekend will help give me time to fix things as well as sit my butt down to write things.
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 04:19:50 AM
IP: pool0036-max4.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net
Wilek- Brook doesn't talk about his travels to the past because that would reveal he remembered stuff, and then he'd be expected to talk about the future as well.
Mighty Max Marathon- I've been trying to talk myself into pulling out my old tapes for months and watching them, but I kept telling myself I had other things to do, more important that watching old videos... Well, I decided the heck with it, I'm watching a marathon anyway... Today, season one... Tomarrow, half of season 2, and then the final episodes on Monday... Should be fun... Especially Tim Curry as Skull Master... Hmm, I might pull out my old Biker Mice From Mars tapes while I'm at it...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 04:14:43 AM
IP: spider-tr071.proxy.aol.com
Wilek > Quantum theory: Yeah, now that you mention it... I don't know much about that, y'know, sleeping through physics and all. I do know they made a bunch of Star Trek episodes on the topic: a couple in TNG, and that two-part Voyager ep was pretty neat.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Saturday, January 16, 1999 02:14:56 AM
IP: spider-to052.proxy.aol.com
**RP WARNING!!**
Jack Jameson, the nerdish fat guy sitting next to Grant in the Beetle (it's a Beetle, sorry I got it confused with the world's other small car that sucks), is the first one to get out of the car. He sees Doug, Jaden, and Stephanie approaching and smiles at the latter. "Hello, gorgeous!" he grins. "You here to make me have a good time?" Stephanie finds something familiar about his lingo and asks, "Does the word Belu-shee mean anything to you?" Jameson nods. "I sent that girl a bunch of cybersex request e-mails, she blew me off. B%^ch." "That 'b%^ch' is me." "Hey! Alright! We meet IRL!" Stephanie slashes his pathetically drooling head off with her sword and nods. "For the first and last times," she adds as the body collapses. "Do you have to be so graphic?" Doug asks her, watching as the other three in the car load their guns and start to get out. While he's waiting for them to exit the wrecked vehicle, Doug makes a post in the Comment Room.
**PAUSE RP**
Steve Gooch: Sorry, got confused, I thought that's what you were saying. Thanks for correcting me on that.
Mighty Max: Good show. I liked their use of mythology and they had a lot of good characters and plots. I miss it too.
Coyote: Thanks for the freak info.
Note to Everyone: Due to a power outage, the GFW fanfic archive lost a lot of its data last night. I had to repost "Clash of the New Olympians," "Brooklyn at Camelot," and "Inheritance." Every other author in here should go to their folder at the GFW and check to make sure all their stories are still there, then repost the missing ones. At least the archive is back up now. And my stories are reposted, so go read them, send feedback, yada yada yada.
**MORE RP**
Grant and the two girls, fully out of the car, began firing at Doug. Grant shoots ordinary bullets, but Alexandra and Nicole are firing exploding poison makeup tubes. (Wearing too much makeup was a vice those two shared.) Doug dodges the shots and fires his own shotgun, taking out Nicole. "That's for ruining Chris's life!" he shouts as Nicole's head is blown off. Alexandra screams and shoots at Doug, angry that he killed her new best friend. Doug whips around and blasts her to death as well, but not before he is splattered with so much exploding makeup that he looks riduculous (he looks like he was hit with the makeup gun Homer invented in that one Simpsons episode). As the screen fades to black, Grant laughs his head off. Tune in next time to see what happens to him (Jaden, you can decide if you come on before me).
**RP OVER, LATER!**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 02:07:58 AM
IP: dal-qbu-zox-vty62.as.wcom.net
I'm starting to think my reload problems are being caused by my ISP. My IP number has changed three times since the problem started and that can't be a coincidence.
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, January 16, 1999 01:06:37 AM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
**RP!**
[On the Dark Star, Wilek and the others are waiting for a med tech to finish testing a blood sample pulled from SJ. Wilek: "Miriam, before this happened, SJ mentioned that the Death Star was near a world shrouded in darkness..." Miriam: "There's only one planet that fits that description: the former Imperial capitol of Byss." Wilek: "But it's been completely uninhabitable since the Emperor's Galaxy Gun misfired and irradiated the surface." Miriam: "There's nothing to prevent the existence of an orbital construction project."]
**PAUSE RP!**
Steve> <<every decision that everyone makes changes the timeline ever so slightly. If you decide to do one thing as opposed to another, each of those separate timelines will digress. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot.>> That sounds an awful lot like something from quantum theory.
Mandi> They think Furbies record speech?! MAN they're stupid? All they had to do was skin and dismantle the thing to see that it has NO recording equipment whatsoever. All it can do is sense the volume of sound. That's all.
Doug> Glad to be of service. :) $Is it a Yugo or a Beetle?$
I just thought of something. I can understand why Brook is going to such lengths to protect the others from learning their futures, but surely it's safe to talk about the various eras of the past he's been to. So why doesn't he talk about *that*?
Serenity> <<What if Griff and Una had had an egg?>> Leo would be TICKED. ;)
<<What if each main character got to make one wish and have it come true?>> Well, the Eyrie Building would quite suddenly be equipped with the planet's most powerful computer (Lex's wish) and a kitchen the size of a small planet (Broadway's wish), and then every human on Earth would spontaneously combust (Demmy's wish).
SJ> Interesting temporal mechanics theory. And we'll miss you while you're gone.
Robby> <<You just killed my excuse to watch a Mighty Max marathon!>> Why do you need an excuse? :)
JEB> Thanks! <<AOL disks? Erase 'em and reuse 'em>> Actually, they're sending me CD's now. Ack.
Coyote> <<remind me never to get that game ... I'm definitely not that coordinated>> Heh...well, Blood is a first person shooter like Doom or Quake, and the tightope is little more than a really thin bridge. Besides, there are always cheat codes...
**RESUME RP! THIS ONE'S KINDA LONG.**
[The med tech comes back from analyzing the blood sample..."Bad news everyone. It seems the clone was sabotaged. From the data we've gathered, SJ2 was designed to biodegrade into...well, we're not sure. Sort of a double agent. Like Talia Winters' alternate personality, except there's a physical change as well. The change occurred as the Dark Mage was searching along the link between SJ and his clone, and I guess the physical and psychic shock was transmitted up the link and into SJ. He'll recover, but..." Wilek: "An alternate personality...that means there's someone on the Death star with complete knowledge of our plans and there's still a spy here, probably in the bio department. This is Nereus to Agent Rho." Rho (on communicator): "Yes?" Wilek: "I want you to round up everyone we didn't get around to scanning last time." Rho: "That's only one person: the head of our bio department, Dr. Thaddeus Morton."
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, January 16, 1999 01:04:58 AM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
FS: Your sentence earlier this week including all the condom names. That one.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:51:53 AM
IP: modem56.i-is.com
Coyote: WHICH sentance?
What if Elisa never met Goliath: Elisa would be a rather nasty stain on the sidewalk of the Erie Building.
What if The Mirror was irriversable: Well, people in the rest of the world would try to "Purify the city" of demons. VERY messy.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:47:44 AM
IP: dhcp191.visitus.net
**RP!!**
**The screen lights up to reveal the tank still speeding through the Southwest, now headed into Arizona. Coyote's sitting in the Commander's Seat of the tank, with Buick driving. Riding along on the tank's deck is Jason, the Gearhead, Ravyn, and Jimmie the Borgified seal boy.**
Hey, all! Jimmie's lead on Preston is that he was last seen headed for Baja, so we're headed that way.
<"Uh, what do we do at the border?">
Silly Gearhead, we switch on the cloaking device!
<"Yeah, but how're we going to get the whole thing cloaked?" "That's right, you've still got to hide my convertible!">
Hmm ... *strokes chin* Actually, Rav, you just gave me an idea!
**PAUSE RP!!**
Yikes, it took over an hour to get the CR to load just to late last night! Oyyyy! Well, I'm going to try to reply to all that I can get to.
Wilek: Yikes ... remind me never to get that game ... I'm definitely not that coordinated, even controlling my computer!
Mandi: Actually, my INWO-Cards mailing list has jumped on that Furby story with much glee ... someone created a card called "Teddy Bears." The color text on the card goes, "I love you. Wanna play pretend? The secret password is ..." ;)
Actually, to be quite serious, Furbys have also been banned from aircraft because the AI computers in them interfere with the planes' radar systems. They're like carrying around a fuzzy cellphone.
Doug: Jimmie came from an episode of Batman which involved Killer Croc and a group of retired circus freaks. The twins didn't come from there ... they're actually a combination of the Siamese twins from the Bat ep and a pair of the "freaks" from "The State" (they supposedly refused to stop holding hands since the age of 3.). And the water buffalo man is my own creation!
Serenity: As Kyryn so politely mentioned (Thanks, Kyryn, for the plug!!! :), I answered your What If in my fic cycle. The aliens invading in my case are Nokkar's "space spawn," giant alien gargoyles. Click my name link, it goes to my site where I post all of my fics ... they're also available at the GFW.
Incidentally, the rest of your what if's I think have been sufficiently answered by the others ... I can't elaborate any further than they already have.
SJ: Miss ya, dude. Come on back soon!
Some more What Ifs? Hmm ... let me see ... hmmmmmmm ...
What if ...
1) Elisa's injuries from Broadway's accidental shooting had left her unable to return to work?
2) Chavez had been the first to meet the Gargs, rather than Elisa?
3) Puck's alterations of New York during the events of "The Mirror" had been irreversible?
Hopefully, it'll be loading faster later ...
**RESUME RP!!**
**The guards at the border between Arizona and Mexico look off to the side and see the convertible pulling up. Ravyn's driving the convertible ... Coyote's in the passenger seat.**
<"State your business.">
Vacation, sir. Need to get away from life. **looks at Ravyn meaningfully, she nods.**
**The guard smiles.** <"Understandable. Need a vacation myself, y'know?">
Yeah.
<"There ya go ... have a nice time.">
Thank you, officer.
**The convertible pulls away from the border patrol station. Suddenly, the guard hut is squashed by an unseen force, the INS officers leaping away barely in time before the shack is turned to kindling. The two officers turn and look at the retreating convertible.**
<"Wow ... that must have some kind of engine on it.">
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, January 15, 1999 11:39:40 PM
IP: modem56.i-is.com
Todd - Actually I don't think that Constantine would ever have sent an army to occupy Wyvern unless there were people there. Why didn't he occupy Wyvern in the mainstream universe where their was nothing but six statues in residence? I don't think he's the kind of man who would avoid a place just because there's a rumor that it's haunted.
I would say that Wyvern is out of the way and strategically meaningless. First the castle was built over the Gargoyles original home which wouldn't exactly be in an easily accessable on-the-beaten-path area. Second it's against the sea. That's great if your a gargoyle and can glide away from the castle but if it's under seige, their is no escape route for humans. They would be trapped in the castle with their backs to the sea, and no way to get major supplies. Wyvern was only good as long as their was an allience with the Gargoyles. Once they were gone, it's just a pain to keep peopled. If it wasn't then why did all the people leave after the Gargoyles were frozen or dead? They left because without the Gargoyles it became useless to be there. It's too high up to be a port and the farming can't be that great. The Gargoyles were the main advantage of the area. Without them there, the castle is just a really big sculpture.
Now if the clan hadn't been destroyed, if Goliath had taken everyone with him, I think he would have gone to save the humans. And then everything would have been back to square one, with the Gargoyles living in Wyvern with Katherine and the ungrateful people. Although it's possible that the resuce might still change Katherine and that the relationship between her and the Gargoyles would improve. But if there were people there then Constantine would occupy it for sure. Would the clan be destroyed? Maybe not. Katherine might protect them long enough for Constantine to be overthrown. Still over time the Wyvern clan would have a few paths to follow. Either it would go the way of the Ishimura clan or it would simply be destroyed at a later date.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, January 15, 1999 09:43:48 PM
IP: 113.new-york-11-12rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Just a note:
Doug> Comissions? I suppose I can. No one has ever asked before. Besides, I draw dragons a lot better than I do people. Email me some info and I'll see what I can come up with for you.
I'm off for the evening!
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Friday, January 15, 1999 09:21:44 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Here's another "What if". What if Goliath HAD taken all the gargoyles with him to pursue Hakon and his Vikings, as the Captain of the Guard and Demona had asked, so that there were no gargoyles at Wyvern for Hakon to slaughter?
Actually, it's quite possible that things wouldn't have been much better if that had happened. I can consider two possibilities here:
1. Goliath and his clan go to rescue the captured people of Wyvern, and the Magus turns them all to stone after Hakon tries to kill Princess Katharine. There is nobody to call Xanatos's attention to Castle Wyvern a thousand years later.
2. The gargoyles don't go to the rescue of the humans, but keep the castle for themselves, as Demona and the Captain had planned. The following year, Constantine decides to reoccupy Castle Wyvern, and sends an army to the castle, which smashes the gargoyles in their stone sleep in the daytime. (Actually, it's surprising that nobody tried to reoccupy the castle during those past thousand years. Maybe it was thanks to the ghosts of the Captain and Hakon. Or maybe Wyvern wasn't very strategically important).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, January 15, 1999 08:21:03 PM
IP: pn8-ppp-155.primary.net
Mighty Max> I, too, liked this series a lot- it's definitely in my top ten fave animated series. :) The reasons? All those that Todd stated, basically. I do wish I'd recorded more than 2 and 1/6 episodes... well, it's on here at 8 AM, maybe I should start. :)
Todd> Creepy... you seem to agree with me (partly?) on the alternate Gathering aftermath. GMTA, eh? :)
JEB
Friday, January 15, 1999 07:41:17 PM
IP: 208-73-71.ipt.aol.com
The scholarship website is DONE! :) (Hoo-ha!) *crosses fingers* Here's hoping I win. <:)
Now that that's done with, I can comment again. :)
"The Scottish Rogue"> *minor spoilers* I liked it pretty well, though I believe MacBeth was a bit ooc in doing what he did with Birdie. <:) But, it was well-written, and I liked the flashbacks. :) Definitely an improvement over "Cats and Dogs", on which I will refrain from further comment. *end minor spoilers*
"The Shadow"/Gargoyles> Wow! Got a number of responses. :) Glad most of you like the idea. :) Granted, there's some temporal problems (Shadow 1930s, Gargs 1990s), but a good crossover writer can overcome such things. :) I think Lamont could survive to the '90s (remember in the film, the Tulku (mystic guy who trained the Shadow) talked like an old guy but looked like a teen- I think part of those powers is possibly the ability to control aging). But better yet would be the time-travel option- the Gate or some other such temporal displacement apparatus (that's time travelling thingamajiggy for the uneducated ;) could perhaps send Broadway (and a few others) back to the Shadow's New York... ah well, so many possibilities. :)
Alec Baldwin> I agree- damn fine actor, is he.
Todd> Interesting Batman Beyond info. :)
DumlaoX> Like the TGS CR archive. Bravo. :)
Wilek> I'll keep you in mind. ;) (As an aside, I read those stories- nice job! :)
AOL disks? Erase 'em and reuse 'em- that's what my family does. ;)
Steve Gooch> *winces* Gee. What a nice guy. (Which translates to scary, dangerously psychotic guy.)
Kyryn> Indiana Jones/Shadow/Phantom? Kewl! :) I'd like to see that one... :)
Looks like your website's off to a good start. :)
Stephen> You too? :) Glad I'm not the only one. <:)
Gargoyles-Transformers?? I wanna see that one too. :)
Aerie> Sorry, Steve's right- if you know, you die. ;)
Sucks about the robberies- we had a thief in our elementary school in 6th grade, so I kinda know how that feels. You might try to post someone as a guard, or set some kinda trap... don't know what more to suggest. <:) Hope he/she gets caught.
Time Travel's Mechanics in the Gargoylesverse> I always find these fascinating. :) I never have anything to say about it, but I like listening.
Jaden> Gargoyles Alternate Universes?? :) I LOVE these. *grins*
Now, let me try these on for size...
((What if Goliath never meet Elisa?))
Well, I think Goliath would have remained with Xanatos, but not much longer- I think it wouldn't take much longer for Xanatos and Demona to decide to ditch the inconsistently loyal Wyvern clanners. Their tale ends with their Awakening.
((What if Demona really had been under the sleeping spell? ))
That's a toughie. If she did go under the sleep spell, that means no Hunters and no immortal MacBeth. Plus, would Xanatos even raise the castle in this world? (No Demona alliance.) I think not. We have a gargoyle-less Manhattan.
((What if Jon Canmore never shot his brother and lost his sanity?))
No Quarrymen- the Canmores would pay their debt to society, and likely eventually become three more allies to the clan. In other words, a good change! :) (These are rare. <:)
((What if Angela stayed on Avalon?))
The entire Avalon journey would have taken a different course. Angela was quite handy, especially in Nigeria and Norway. I don't think they would have went to Loch Ness, as Angela was instrumental there. Without her to shake Goliath out of it, though, Goliath would have kept the Eye, killed Odin, and possibly Elisa and Bronx. He then would have returned to Manhattan, and proceedeed to attempt to establish a 'protectorate' over it, for 'its own good.' Goliath would try to use the clan, but, sensing how he has changed, they'd refuse- and he'd destroy them. Xanatos would resist- he too would be destroyed. However, eventually, the other fay, seeking to avenge Odin's demise, would take on Goliath, and strip from him the Eye. What would happen after that? I'm not certain. Consumed with guilt, I believe Goliath would destroy himself.
((What if Goliath wouldn't help Xanitos protect Alex from Oberon? ))
No end to the feud, but I think Alex would stay with the Xanatoses- when Fox's outburst occurred, Titania would be forced to intercede on their behalf so that Alex could stay in the outside world. But Xanatos would continue his attempts to conquer the clan. When the Hunter's Moon incident occurred, he'd 'rescue' them at St. Damien's Cathedral- then make them his virtual prisoners, trapped by the city's hatred.
You have a lot more? Dish 'em out. :) :)
My, this was long... <:) SYL!
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Friday, January 15, 1999 07:36:39 PM
IP: 208-73-71.ipt.aol.com
Taleweaver- Blast it! You just killed my excuse to watch a Mighty Max marathon! I've been trying to find a good excuse to watch my backtapes for months! Ah well, I suppose you were only doing me a favor...
Not much else to say, the servers have been down, no one's been able to visit... Ah well, THREE DAY WEEKEND!
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, January 15, 1999 07:11:50 PM
IP: spider-te082.proxy.aol.com
Sorry for the double post, but here are a few more comments on some of the what ifs:
WHAT IF ELISA WAS A REINCARNATED GUINEVERE?: In that case, let's hope for Goliath's sake that Lancelot's not around (of course, somebody could then suggest that Jason Canmore is a reincarnated Lancelot :)
WHAT IF OBERON DIED?: Complete chaos on Avalon, unless they can find a quick successor. I doubt that Oberon's provided for the succession, simply because he's so arrogant that he can't even imagine that something would happen to him. In the TGS Universe, of course, Oberon's death would be very much to Madoc's advantage; he could easily attack Avalon while the fay there were thrown into confusion over who succeeds Oberon.
WHAT IF A GARGOYLE BECAME A RELIGIOUS ZEALOT?: That might have already happened with Demona, in a sense. I doubt that most other gargoyles would make such a career move, if for no other reason than that they've been on the receiving end so often of such behavior that it wouldn't appear very appealing to them.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, January 15, 1999 07:07:25 PM
IP: pn8-ppp-155.primary.net
I also rather liked "Mighty Max", particularly since it, like "Gargoyles", made serious use of various myths and legends. (Max in the course of his adventures encountered Osiris, Isis, and Apophis from Egyptian mythology, Kali and Hanuman from the myths of India, Beowulf from Anglo-Saxon epic, and a few others - not to mention that they even stated once that one of Norman's past aliases was Thor, and hinted in the same episode that he might also have been Lancelot and Little John).
One of the "what ifs" that has been posed here (What if Goliath hadn't come to Xanatos's aid in "The Gathering"), I've pondered once, and I believe that the results wouldn't be very pretty. It's possible that the situation would have still come out more or less the way that it had even without the gargoyles' intervention (after all, what really stopped Oberon from taking Alex away was that Fox finally used her powers, and that was what Titania was really interested in; somebody else could have then suggested the compromise rather than Goliath). But it's possible that Oberon would have succeeded. In that case, Xanatos and Renard would probably have invaded Avalon with a lot of iron weaponry to rescue Alex, resulting in a terrible war. Even if Oberon hadn't succeeded, the results would still have been nasty. For Xanatos in this scenario would not be in the gargoyles' debt, would still be their enemy, and so wouldn't have come to rescue them at St. Damien's, resulting in their capture by the Gargoyle Task Force with very nasty results from there. Or he might have come to rescue them, but for the purpose of controlling them with a tone of "Now that the public know about you and are after you, you have two alternatives: work for me, or get captured by the authorities and put to death or turned over to scientists for research experiments." It was a good thing for the clan that they decided to help, in that case.
Nice to have this place up again. I was really worried when it went down.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, January 15, 1999 06:51:50 PM
IP: pn8-ppp-155.primary.net
Well, it looks like the room is sort of up and running. I'm still having trouble getting it to load.
Serenity>Re ideas: You ought to read Coyote's fics about alien invasions
Ah well, I'm off to finish backing up the library catalog server.
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, January 15, 1999 06:47:39 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Robby> I believe the quote your looking for is that "Destiny is equal parts chance, free will and necessity"
Taleweaver - [taleweaver.usa.net]
Friday, January 15, 1999 06:27:44 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89
Oh temporal logic, one of my favorite topics.
A dragon name Firestorm, not CR's Firestorm, gave me this pearl of wisdom. A school of thought is like a vista. You can see forever in one direction, but not behind you.
It goes a long way in free-will/determinism about the future. Both sides have costs and benefits.
If history can not be changed, then it stands to reason. Given a fixed past and the laws of nature, that there is only one possible future. If that's the case hope and accountability go out the window. Hope is irrelevant because no matter what happens in the universe its to some design you have little imput in changing. Accountability goes to, because the actions of one are following that design. So in the gargoyle universe. Demona isn't really accountable for betraying the clan, she was just playing her role. And Goliath or any hero fighting the good fight is also meaningless. Whether they win or lose has nothing to do with them.
That what determinism and destiny mean. That a person and the actions are meaningless. The outcome is already tallied.
Then why watch movies or read stories? If you know good is going to win out over evil, why watch? More over, why does Brooklyn do the right thing in his timedances. What does it matter if he saves a boatload of slaves or a little girl?
I can't speak for others, but I read, because I don't know what's going to happen. I don't believe that good's victory is a certainty. I'm an avid free-willer. I think it has more perks. But that's my opinon.
As for Brooklyn. Well I noticed in Requiem that Demona and the Future Clan didn't volunteer information about Brooklyn's future. I think it's like that. If you can figure it out yourself, bully for you, but they aren't going to roadmap the future for them.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, January 15, 1999 06:24:19 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89
Ack! That little line-drawing thing didn't come out at all. Umm, sorry for the wasted space. Just picture a central line with lots of branches coming off, and branches off branches.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Friday, January 15, 1999 03:45:54 AM
IP: spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com
Kitainia > Are you kidding? I got un-wired in October, and over Thanksgiving break I was back at the same paintball field KATN. Won't give that sport up because of some low-life, no sir.
Doug > I didn't mean that you go out looking to get hit. Did I say that? Whoops. But you got my meaning, that it's part of the game.
Serenity > Welcome to the madness. <The Imp's name is Steve> I think i'll let this one slide, just this once :)
Seriously, though. AOL is out to get me. Just as I was about to comment on "Mr. Dis Connect"... I was kicked. Twice.
Durid > <one member of the Wyvern clan could be saved from the Masscare by having his/her stone form replaced by a stone replica just before the attack > Dude, you've been playing Chrono Trigger too much :) Yeah, that sounds feasible. The trick is getting the Phoenix Gate somewhere along the line and using it. But I like your take on time vs. destiny. I'm still struggling to find a loophole that allows someone to change history in a major way for an upcoming fic.
<Destiny would prevent them from saying anything that would really change the future.> Yeah, plus some resourceful and tight-lipped writers :)
SJ > Sorry. It just seems that most people I tell that story to end up thinking that I did hit him, which leads a little part of them to think, "hey, maybe he WAS justified in decking him." Which is an inkling, though miniscule and easily forgotten, I'd rather not perpetuate. But yeah, I'd like some payback. Like finding out where he lives and giving his house a new "paint job" - pun FULLY intended!
As to time travel, I agree with you on most parts. I think you can pretty easily diagram the timeline as an ever-branching series of lines, each traveling off from each other. Kind of like this:
***PREPARE FOR THEORETICAL RAMBLINGS BROUGHT ON BY LACK OF SLEEP***
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\ \ \
\ \ \--------
\ \
\ \------------------------
\ \ \
\ \ \---
\ \-------------
\--------------------------------------
Something like that. Hope this comes out okay in the CR. The way I see it, every decision that everyone makes changes the timeline ever so slightly. If you decide to do one thing as opposed to another, each of those separate timelines will digress. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot.
Time travel works like this: you travel backwards (or forwards) along the line you're in. If you go back, change something, and go forward again, you can't tell how much the timeline has been changed. A friend of mine wrote a great scifi story about this. People bopping back and forth in time, trying to fix things that went wrong, and each time ending up in an earth that got progressively worse (Civil War never ended, Germans won WWII, aliens invaded, etc).
Alternatively, you can go sideways, skipping between timelines. This is the way I imagined "Sliders" worked. Same time, different timeline.
***END THEORETICAL RAMBLINGS***
OK, that's all for tonight. I plan on waking up in the AM sometime... yeah, right!!
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Friday, January 15, 1999 03:44:10 AM
IP: spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com
Doug- You are correct sir! Hmm.. Kinda dissapointing that the first person to try got it though... Guess the next one I try will need to be a bit more obscure... Or maybe I shouldn't have given such an obvious clue...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, January 15, 1999 03:24:39 AM
IP: spider-tr042.proxy.aol.com
Robby: Suburban Commando?
SJ: We'll miss you. Hope you come back soon and let us know exactly what is going on with your RP characters.
Serenity: Interesting fanfic ideas. I've already been using one of them in my own fic saga (Xantos and Fox having another child). I have plans to use the alien invasion and death of Oberon ideas, too. Not sure about the others. If you or anyone wants to read my stories, they can be found on the GFW.
Later,
Doug
Friday, January 15, 1999 03:05:43 AM
IP: dal-qbu-zol-vty3.as.wcom.net
Jalapena! 18 DAYS UNTIL MULAN COMES OUT ON VIDEO!!!
Hmm... Just watching a movie I haven't watched in a while, and I'm curious to see just how long the CR takes to figure it out... It starred Cristopher Lloyd, and had Hulk Hogan beating up a mime... What movie is it? (If it takes more than three people to get this right, I'll be dissapointed in all of you.)
Timetravel- Perhaps its time for this topic to die. We all agree Brooklyn is probably lying for the benefit of the clan, and talking about time paradoxes is probably confusing a few people...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, January 15, 1999 02:49:42 AM
IP: spider-tr042.proxy.aol.com
****RP****
Looking at the bad guys Jaden takes picks up his ax and say, "This maybe the first chance I get to use this thing."
Screen fades out.
****END RP****
Yet another favorite Quote- "Impossible is just a word to describe something nobody has ever seen yet."
Serenity-Welcome, nice name. Please check your sanity at the door. Try these "what ifs"
What if Goliath never meet Elisa?
What if Demona really had been under the sleeping spell?
What if Jon Canmore never shot his brother and lost his sanity?
What if Angela stayed on Avalon?
What if Goliath wouldn't help Xanitos protect Alex from Oberon?
I got a lot more.
Brooklyn & Timedancing- I'm positive that he remembers. He's probably just saying that he doesn't because know the details. Think about it this way...The past can't be changed, but the future can. Just because Brooklyn was in the future doesn't mean it's going to turn out that way.
It's almost like someone is controlling time so it will turn out a certain way. The thing with Griff and Goliath during World War II, it was like something was trying to kill him when all that was need was for him to be brought forward in time.
Well I could keep going because I'm always thinking about stuff like this but I got class in the morning so I should just stop now while I can.
Good night everyone!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Friday, January 15, 1999 01:28:28 AM
IP: pm1-18.sma.silcom.com
Brooklyn's Memory - I'm sure that Brooklyn and his entire family of Timedancer's know everything that went on during their travels. The whole "We only remember fragments of our travels" is just a story they use because knowledge of the future is usually more dangerous than helpful. (Just look at what happened to Demona. I honestly believe that if she hadn't been shown the future then she wouldn't have tried to prevent it which only helped lead to it.)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, January 15, 1999 12:16:53 AM
IP: 174.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Wilek- I've talked to Heather on a daily basis, AM talking to her right now in fact. And Green Baron is showing up on my buddy list right now. Remember, they're both lurkers, and won't comment unless they have something to say.
***WARNING! THEORIZING ON TIME TRAVEL! POSSIBLE HEADACHES AHEAD!!!***
Timetravel- According to Greg, in the garg universe, time can NOT be changed. He talked about this in great detail in the ask Greg archives... Time can only be written around. If you don't know EVERYTHING about a situation, there's a possibility time travel caused it in the first place. Goliath took Griff to the future, and because of it, Griff vanished for a long number of years, so that he would be missing when Avalon sent Goliath to London, and would eventually have to go back and make it work out.
Archmage situation... That was also a loop. He had to fall and be caught by himself, because thats how it did happen, and thats how it had to hapen...
Speech to Demona- She remembered the speech, and never told Goliath about it until he knew about it, and so it never had an effect, because it didn't.
Similarly, any timedancing changed Brooklyn made, HAD to happen, because they did or will. If he leaks information about the future, he had already done so at some point in history, and so he will when he reaches that point in history because he must...
What must happen, MUST happen.
***END OF TIME TRAVEL SPECULATION***
The last part of Mighty Max's take on destiny... Blast... I used to know this... Now I'm gonna have to rewatch my entire Mighty Max collection to find out... Oh wait, its a three day weekend... 65 episodes of the third best american animated series ever should be fun... (Second being Batman, TAS, and first being Gargs. of course)
Serenity- Your second post is a poll? Oh, thats a good sign that you'll have a long tenure here... Hmm... Xanatos getting immortality at the cost of his father's life... Now thats an interesting one... And all the characters getting wishes, also interesting idea...
Imp Steve? Maybe when Mr. Dis Connect leaves in a few weeks... But for now I want a readily available AOL thing to rant on. **Dis gulps heavily, he knows he's doomed to die in this post.**
**Robby leaves, but doesn't kill Dis yet. Instead, he offers a piece of advice. "Talk to scratchy about how you know your next death is imminent. Then feed yourself to the CR gators. They need a snack.**
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Friday, January 15, 1999 12:02:28 AM
IP: spider-te062.proxy.aol.com
No RP tonight, I'll explain why later.
Timedancer: I have a unique view on the whole time-travelin' thing. I know that in the Garg universe, the Past can't be changed. Personally, I think that the whole "Time is like a river" thing is a big load of crap. Here's how I view it:
I believe that the future isn't written. Obviously, Mr. Weisman had some sort of iota of belief in that, otherwise why would Goliath rush back to Manhattan to make sure Future Tense couldn't take place? It was certainly a possible future, and, theoretically (I don't know exactly what you TGS folks have in store for us) by coming back he prevented (or at least believed he did) the events leading up to and creating the Future Tense timeline from occurring (well...maybe except for Lex's metal bits n' pieces). Sure, Greg had plans for the Future--hence the Master Plan--but, on the whole, there doesn't seem to be one particular view for what's gonna happen. Angela and Broadway may get married, for instance, but it's not set in stone that, say, aliens named the Rokkans are gonna invade and conquer Earth (Not that it can't or won't happen, Coyote! ;]) Small things can happen regardless, but there's no big sign that says "The Future of all Man-, Gargoyle-, and Fey-kind will go as follows: Yadda, yadda, yadd...."
So, for the large part, the future isn't written. There are dozens of different directions that can be chosen. Now, let's get cerebral. Let's go back to, oh, the 10th century A.D. Can't change the Past? Maybe. But, at this point, centuries 11 to 20 to infinity are the FUTURE. And the future can be changed; cause at that point, in 10 century A.D., the future hasn't been written. It COULD go the way we all know and love--then again, you could do something to change the course of history. America never gets formed. The Industrial Revolution never progresses as far as it did. Gargoyles become extinct. The Indians still own Manhattan. It could all happen, cause frankly, at that point, YOU write the future.
Or you could view it as the whole "River" analogy. Imagine that the present is the middle of the river, and that's where you are. To your left is the Past: it's all one stream of water, never straying from the path. To your right is the Future: it's dozens, maybe hundreds, or thousands, or millions of tiny streams, running everywhere, in all directions. It's up to you form all those little streams into just one river. If you go back to 10th century A.D., the situation would be the same; 10th century would be the present, and the future would be uncertain, only what you made of it. So maybe the past couldn't be changed....but if you were in the 10th century, the past would be B.C. to 9th cen A.D. 11th to 20th and on would be the future--which you CAN change.
As for why Brooklyn doesn't screw up things in the past, I'd have to chalk that one down to destiny. Same with Goliath saving Griff, and the Archmage. As for Brooklyn's forays into the future....well, they're only possible futures. It could even be said during his visits to the past, the future--namely the 20th century as he knew it--was only a possible future at that point. If it wasn't for destiny/fate intervening, he could have done something to stop his particular future from ever happening.
At least, that's the way I see things. But what do I know, I'm an occasionally mad scientist. Hope I didn't give you an ice cream headache from reading that. Ain't time paradoxes fun?
GOOCH: I know you didn't actually hit him in paintball. Just maybe you should next time.....you know, the old "Oops! I'm sorry! Did I hit you in the throat and collapse your trachea?" gag.....
ATTENTION RP-ERS!!!!
Remember a couple of weeks ago, when I said I'd be going out of town? That trip got postponed. Well, the Piper just called, and the debt is due. So I may be going out of town NOW. As in tomorrow. So, if you don't hear from me, I'll be on the road. I should be back, hopefully, no later than mid next week.
So, as for the Roleplay: I leave me, SJ, in your capable hands. I'm near death, I see.....;)....but I'm guessin' I'll pull through eventually. Until then, use me as you like. As for my clone (who's apparently gone ape s*** and wonderfully homicidal...) you can of course use him and the Death Star. But please, DON'T kill the clone! Or severly injure him, or "Dad." I got a couple more plans for them still. Thanks guys, and I hope to see you guys again soon!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:35:48 PM
IP: 209-122-247-71.s71.tnt26.brd.erols.com
Thank you for all the kind welcomes!! A few (well, more than a few) replies & comments....
On my sanity: Hate to disappoint, but I was crazy long before I got here! {g}
The irony of my name: Kitaina, you have NO idea! ;)
Buffy ep: You know what occured to me at the end? What if that was the wrong rat?
Brooklyn & Time: I think he remembers everything, and I refuse to think about the time & destiny conundrums.
Batman Beyond: Saw it, liked it for the most part. Bladerunner feel was cool, Bruce's portrayal was not (for most of it I think he was way out of character).
Mr. Dis Connect: Ah, that reminds me of what my friends and I termed the AOL Imp. The Imp is a nasty little creature who is responsible for all the evils of AOL- getting kicked offline ("Imped"), not being able to sign on, disappearing posts, unavailable email, etc. The Imp's name is Steve. He has a cousin- the Windows Gremlin, Bill. {g}
Weird Sisters: Yes! I have never been able to figure out who or what they're actually loyal to, outside of each other. Maybe nothing. But they sure don't seem to be 100% behind Oberon. Then again, the same could be said for quite a few of the Children.
Something I'd like to share.... This is just a short list of ponderables. Some of the ideas are silly, some are just plain stupid, but the point is just to make you think a bit and maybe start a discussion. Who knows, maybe someone will get a fic idea from them. Feel free to make your own!
What Ifs:
What if Elisa was Guinevere reborn?
What if Puck failed in his duty to protect Alexander?
What if Hudson was somehow rejuvenated?
What if the Weird Sisters lied when they said that Demona and Macbeth would die if one killed the other, and there really is no release for them?
What if the cost of Xanatos' immortality was the death of his father?
What if Oberon died?
What if Griff and Una had had an egg?
What if one of the gargoyles became a religious zealot?
What if aliens invaded Earth?
What if Fox and Xanatos have more children?
What if each main character got to make one wish and have it come true?
That's all for now!
Serenity - [NeoQueen39@aol.com]
Orlando, FL
Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:25:11 PM
IP: spider-wa031.proxy.aol.com
**RP WARNING**
The screen comes on. Doug is still backing up the Onslaught. As soon as he gets alongside Grant's Yugo, he turns the wheel hard to the right, smashing into the car and knocking it off the road. Grant screams in terror, as do Alexandra, Jameson, and Nicole. They crash into the ditch, all are winded and reeling. Doug stops the truck and hops out, drawing his shotgun. Stephanie comes behind him with her katana. The others also hop out of the trailer and draw weapons but stay back, deciding they'll let Doug and Steph handle this one. While he's waiting for the bad guys to recover from the crash (so it'll be a fair fight), Doug makes a CR post.
**PAUSE RP**
First a small Shameless Plug!
"Inheritance" is now up on the GFW archive, hope everyone reads it and enjoys. Remember to us writers, all feedback is greatly appreciated. The more detailed, the better. :)
Now for some replies:
Wilek: Thanks for telling me how to put pics in a story. I might try that with my next one, "Captives." (Yes, it's gonna be the big one I've been talking about for so long!) I'll start working on it soon.
Jaden: $ Okay, happy to have you along with us. $
Traveler: I understand why you didn't send feedback immediately, thanks for explaining your reasons. Look forward to seeing it when it does come. BTW, the new story has some dragons in it, too, but they're pretty well-hidden. (Not really, but you won't spot them at first. <grin>)
Steve Gooch: Yes, I've played paintball. But I've never wanted to get hit, even though I have many times. I have expected it, it is a possible danger. But I always try to avoid the paintballs. Getting hit gets you knocked out of the game, and it hurts. No fun. But I would not go ballistic about it like that jerk who beat you up. I'd just get out of the game, and on the next round, remember who hit me (distinctive build and clothing) and pay them back with a shot of my own. Hopefully. :)
Coyote: Thanks for the Harry info. Did you get any of the other freaks from any special place or did you just make them up?
Serenity: Welcome to the CR! Enjoy the place, be careful of the gator pit. :)
Kyryn: Well, you still have nice artwork, whether it will be in TGS or not. I wonder if you take commissions. There's a couple of dragon characters I might want you to draw for my fics.
About Brooklyn: I agree with Coyote that he does know about the future, he's just not telling anyone so as to not alarm them. But little tidbits do slip out occasionally, like his comment to Broadway and Angela about them raising a great kid.
Not much to say tonight, see y'all tomorrow. Later!
**BACK TO RP**
The four bad guys, having recovered, get out of their car and draw weapons. Grant pulls out an assault rifle, Jameson a short-barrelled shotgun, and the evil preppie femme fatales both draw Mary Kay Commando style heavy machine guns. (Read the comic Bloom County if you don't know what that kind of weapon looks like.) The Ravens rush them, preparing to do battle as the screen fades out. To be continued next time.
**RP AND POST END**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:08:07 PM
IP: hil-c45-004-vty168.as.wcom.net
Don't have time to really read the CR, but just posting a few things and my own 2c on Timedanceing.
Does anyone rember the answer that the show "Mighty Max" gives on destiny? "Destiny is equal parts free-will, chance and *****" I just can't rember the last.
Altering Time: Now in the Gargoyles Universe, most time-travelers believe that Time cannot be altered. However if this can't be compleatly true, or time-travel by it's very nature couldn't exsist. You would never be able to meet your past self as Demona has, nor would you be able to bring anything out of the past into the the future as Goliath did in "MIA". Rather, it is my belief that it is Destiny that cannot be changed.
Part of Griff's destiny was that he couldn't return home until 50some years after WWII. When Goliath tried to defy destiny in that way, it started trying to kill both him and Griff. Goliath however was able to get around destiny by returning Griff to his home in 1995.
Also the Archmage is a good example. His destiny was to get the Grimorum, the Gate, and the Eye, then die. If he didn't meet his future self when he fell into that crevice, he would not have lived to become that future self. Here destiny made sure that he didn't die in the crevice, and allowed his future self to help his past. And with the Archmage there is also some evidance of some time alteration, namely a paradox. If the Archmage wasn't saved by his futureself, how could he survive to become his futureself? It looks like someone arranged events to kill the Archmage back in the 10th century, and partially sucedded, only destiny intervened to make sure that the Archmage fullfilled his destiny.
Now, past Destiny cannot be changed, but there are loopholes that can be used to get around or delay destiny. For example, I fully believe that at least one member of the Wyvern clan could be saved from the Masscare by having his/her stone form replaced by a stone replica just before the attack (or taken away just before dawn), then bring that one member to the 20th century. When the clan is smashed, and later analyzed by Xanatos in the 20th century, do you honestly belive that some actual stone among the Gargoyle remains would be noticed, or that the amount of 'Gargoyle parts' don't add up to quite the same as how many were smashed? Interesting plot theory.... The only snag is that the one doing it would have to stay out of sight of everyone in the 10th century, or destiny will hamper him.
I don't know how clear that came out (clearer than my consparicy theory I hope). But it would explain Brooklyn's reluntance to saying anything (why fortell a bad future and make everyone worry, and possibly force destiny to hamper him from doing so. Or ruin the surprise of a good furure) and his not real worry about his kids saying anything. Destiny would prevent them from saying anything that would really change the future.
Once again, I am not sure how clear that came out. Blessed be!
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:48:49 PM
IP: dialupf112.mpls.uswest.net
Quick post before I hit the sack. (One more day of work!)
Wilek> Yep, you heard me right. I heard on the news that the National Security Agency has banned Furbys from their buildings, saying that they are a threat to national security. According to the NSA, there's an internal recorder inside the Furby which could tape conversations inside the building that might be used as a threat to national security. I'm not making this up--the reporter himself commented that he'd had the Furby they'd tested on for five hours, and all that came out of it was gibberish. ("The Furby isn't talking.") I guess it would be possible to extract the actual tape from a Furby and get a straight recording, but still, I laughed so hard!
That's all. (a la Dr. Nick)Good night, everybody!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:42:12 PM
IP: p1-15.netgsi.com
More browser reload problems. I'd hate to have to throw this lovely machine into an ion furnace. HELP ME!!!
Wilek
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:24:59 PM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
**RP!**
[In the Dark Star's med lab, SJ's lying in stasis on a bio-bed while the Halfling Anoth is concentrating on healing him. He also has a telepathic communication channel open between SJ and the others, for when SJ wishes to post in the CR.]
**PAUSE RP!**
Kitainia> Glad you like the sound file. It's actually one of Henry Stauf from The 7th Guest and The 11th Hour, played by Robert Hirshboeck, who happens to be Cocytus' ideal voice. I added some echo, to simulate the effects of being in a tomb.
Webelos? Sounds like the official cereal of the Rebel Alliance as pronounced by Elmer Fudd. :P j/k
Serenity> Welcome! Feel free to kill our Lawyer or drive our psychiatrist, Dr. Scratchansniff, out of his mind. (Wasn't he kidnapped by Demona once?)
Anyone ever notice that the Weird Sisters can't seem to decide which side they're on? The way I see it, they want to keep either side from winning until...well, I'm not sure...
Coyote> Ack, sorry about your car. You know, in the game Blood, there's a JoJo The Idiot Circus Boy. He's never seen in the game, but there are posters up all over the place advertising him, and your character ends up doing the act that JoJo was supposed to do. Namely tightrope walking over a pit full of snakes. They don't call him an idiot for nothing I guess.
Carolynn> Regarding the moron who's stealing your friends' stuff: Set it up so that if they get into your bag, it trips a trigger that fires a flamethrower at their head. It's great fun to watch.
Mandi> <<the NSA's ban of Furbys from their offices>> Huh?
Pet Names for Elisa> Goliath doesn't use pet names, I think. He's just too...I don't know...serious about their relationship. I think I would be too.
Mr. Dis Connect> Ooh, fresh blood. Traveler? [Traveler opens a portal to the CR, through which Wilek fires a cerebral bore gun. A small metal device flies into the CR and drills into Mr. DisConnect's skull, spraying blood and brain juice everywhere. The device explodes, and Mr. DisConnect's now-headless corpse falls to the floor.] I've been playing much too much Turok 2.
Brooklyn's knowledge of future events CAN in fact change the future. Someone from the future can't change the present directly, but someone from the present who's been to the future can change the future s/he's been to into something else by using or communicating knowledge of the future. Also, someone from the future can change the present, not directly, but by communicating future knowledge to ppl in the present and letting them change the present, thereby changing the future. I AM Q! :P j/k
Hey has anyone seen Heather? Zath? Green Baron?
Deuce> Yep, Starship Titanic is one of the best games EVER. Also one of the most complex. And you have to love a game with someone named Titania in it.
Quote:
"No stupid grinning please."
Computer, Starship Titanic
Kyryn> You know, there's also a feline alien race in *my* ficverse, although I don't think I'll ever get the chance to use them. Someday I might tell y'all about the various aliens in my ficverse.
**NO CLOSING RP TONIGHT; NOT FEELING PARTICULARLY CREATIVE.**
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:23:59 PM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
I love the archive! Man, I can't believe some of the older posts. Talk about theories of evolution. Oh, and the actual page (archives.html) has a funny title - "Current Episode". Huh????
Oh, and sorry for all the posts (I'm getting up to 5.6*10^7, I know it), I'm kinda hyper lately.
** leaves. **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, January 14, 1999 09:11:37 PM
IP: ts13109.connect.ab.ca
Brooklyn: I don't think he's woried that he might change the future. After all, we allready know, that in the Gargoyle Universe, the time line can not be changed. After years of time dancing Brooklyn probably knows this. If ignorence is bliss then why ruin everyone's lives by warning them about all the things that are going to go wrong. I know I don't want to know when I'm going to die. I'd spend the rest of my life dreding that one day. I think he's just trying to let everyone be happy while they still can.
TheOneEyedSquid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 08:52:57 PM
IP: spider-th083.proxy.aol.com
**Kyryn runs by on her way out the door**
Thanks to all who've commented on my site.
Doug and Kitania> I appreciate the compliments, but I actually hadn't even considered doing artwork for TGS. I signed on as a proofreader/editor type.
Traveller> Thanks. The F'dayn are a catlike techie race in my as-yet-unwritten universe(actually, I've got pieces down here and there). There are 2 more dragon pics and another F'dayn pic up at the site now. You want dragons? I've got about 5 more pics that I haven't put up yet. I'll let you know when I do.
I went and saw 'Mighty Joe Young' last night. It's okay although I had to laugh when they played fast and loose with L.A. geography. Having grown up in L.A., it's always fun to see the movie 'shortcuts' through the city. Boy, I wish that I could have found some of those during rush hour! Of course now it's also fun to see the same thing happen with 'Walker, Texas Ranger'.
Robby> I'd send the gremlins to help with the AOL problem, but they all went home to another dimension.
Serenity> Welcome to the State of Insanity, right next door to the lovely State of Chaos!
Ah well, gotta run!
**Kyryn zooms out of the CR, running over Mr. Dis Connect along the way.**
Kyryn - [<<--clicky, clicky]
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, January 14, 1999 08:46:26 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Another Starship Titanic fan! Yes! (That's my birthday present come June, BTW).
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, January 14, 1999 08:39:26 PM
IP: ts13109.connect.ab.ca
A quote>
"The ship has lost its mind, and so has most of the crew."
~Fentible the DoorBot, Starship Titanic
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, January 14, 1999 08:06:37 PM
IP: tnt-2-125-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Howdy everyone,
Just thought I'd stop by and add a few thoughts.
Rescuers> Call Matt Bluestone, but somehow I think this my be a stunt to boost the sales of the movie. Oh, it's genuine enough, the little conspiracy nut inside can't help but wonder how many more copies will be sold with the extra publicity.
Movie lines> Feeling a bit silly today (lack of sleep will do that to you) Put me in mind for this one from Dragnet.
Joe Friday: There are two things that separate the human species above the animals. 1) Proper use of eating utensils. 2) Control of our sexual urges. Now while you may be an exception. Don't drag me into your private hell.
And since it's 1999 I'm waiting to spring this one from Clue.
Beatnick: Armegeddon is upon us.
Prof. Plum: I've got news for you, bub. It's already here.
See you all later.
taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 07:10:22 PM
IP: 134.71.30.89
**SLICE OF CR LIFE*
Kenny the CR lawyer walks in. "Everybody, I'm taking a vacation! MY job will be filled for the next few weeks by my buddy here, Mr. Dis Connect! He works at AOL! Say hi and feel free to kill him if you like! He comes back just as well as I do!"
** END SLICE OF CR LIFE **
I figured rather than just one big AOL rant, I'd give all AOL users a chance to vent on one individual whenever they felt the need... He probably works on other computer systems too.
Elisa once knew Dracon- Why is it, the more I think about this, the more sense it makes? Might be something to ask Greg if the opportunity arrises.
Brooklyn and timedancing- I always assumed he was lying about not remembering his dances, the way he and the kids acted around Lex prior to his going cyborg indicated he remembered quite a bit. But ALSO... In the gargs universe, the past CAN'T be changed, no matter how hard you try, so Brooklyn wanted to avoid the others asking him what was going to happen, due to how painful some of it was going to be.
Pi- Never seen it. I'll look for it though.
Jordan retiring- Maybe he's doing it to pursue his acting career...
Serenity- Hi! Post here often, I also like that pic, is a shame its rarely used! But while people are telling you to check your sanity at the door, don't bother. Its funner to lose it gradually.
Pinky and the Brain- The "Romey" episode... One of their best ones. I have it on tape..
Coyote- RL Excederin Headache #488... Nasty one...
Archives- Woah, I've only been coming here since October 15th? Man... Feels like a lot longer and more fun than should be in three months... My first post was a story thought, my second was a semi-shameless plug, and my third was a poll... Whats interesting is my very first post is followed by one of Heathers... Neat in a way...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 06:47:43 PM
IP: spider-tj031.proxy.aol.com
Had to jump in on this one ...
Pet-names for Elisa: Hmm ... interesting nothing's come up about this kind of subject yet. I don't think you're mean, AotN, not wanting Goliath to come up with one. But I have seen at least one interesting one ...
I'm not sure if she's the only one to use it, but Skydancer had Goliath call her "Elisa-mine." It seems like something he would call her.
And if you want to get *really* deep into it, the name I gave my main protagonist in my cycle could be considered a pet name. (When she was born, Elisa asked if he had come up with a name, to which Goliath said he couldn't think because he was dazzled by "the *rose* of our love.")
And now ...
**RESUME RP!!! FINALLY!!!!!**
**The screen lights up to reveal ... the tank speeding across the landscape of New Mexico, the convertible hooked up to a trailer behind it. Everyone's in the tank, newly on their hunt for Preston.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, January 14, 1999 05:19:31 PM
IP: modem64.i-is.com
Serenity> Welcome!
AotN
Thursday, January 14, 1999 05:00:25 PM
IP: dialup-103-55.sssnet.com
Hello, all. I really don't have much to say. I guess I just don't come in here enough, but that's just because I don't really read Pendragon or Gargoyles. Just can't wait till September-ish! :)
Fire Storm:
Broken Arrow> I love Travolta's line, too. I didn't really like broken arrow, except for his performance. It wasn't his best, but it was pretty excellent.
Terms of affection for Elisa> This may sound mean to you or anyone else, but I personally hope Goliath has a creativity lapse concerning that subject.
DumaloX> Thanks for the Comment Room Archive.
AotN
Thursday, January 14, 1999 04:58:17 PM
IP: dialup-103-55.sssnet.com
**RP WARNING**
"No," Gubio says to Jammer (he's in the way back seat of the station wagon. "Thanks, but I don't think I need any more gadgets from you. Just give me my good .45 and incredible skill with computers, and my friends to back me up, and that's good enough for me." Traveler shrugs, "Okay," and turns back to Kitainia. "Now about Johnny Cochran..." "I don't like the guy," Kitainia answers, turning the station wagon into the portal and parking outside the CR. "Don't trust him either. If you want to hire him, fine. But two conditions. One, whatever completely crazy things the guy does is your responsibility to stop before they happen. Two, you worry about his fee, we barely have enough to pay off our first choice of lawyers." "But, Kit," says Jammer, "we can't pay off him. We're not millionaires." "We will be after we sell all that stuff you took from Galante's mansion." "But I wanted to take Tricia to Italy with this stuff!" "It's okay, Jim," Tricia answers him. "I've been to Italy before, it's not as nice a place as the newspapers make out. Besides, we need that stuff more here." "Oh, well, okay," Jammer nods as the party enters the CR. "How much do you think we'll get for it?" "Depends on who we ask," Kitainia replies. "You guys wait for me upstairs, I need to make a post." She turns to face the Comment Room.
**PAUSE RP**
Wilek: Great sound file you included in the fic. Cocytus's laugh goes right up there with Kefka's, Sideshow Bob's, and Palpatine's in the best maniacal laughter awards.
Titanic: DiCaprio pretty much was a stereotypical yawn character in it, I didn't care for him too much. But Rose, she was a good character. She underwent development, changed as the movie progressed, had all the best lines, she's what made the movie good, IMHO. Sure DiCaprio ruined it for some people, but Kate Winslet saved the film in my mind. That's one reason why she should have gotten Best Actress, besides the fact that she did a really great job, much better than Helen Hunt.
Dumlao: Thanks for putting up the CR archives. Great memories were brought back as I paged through them. And not-so-good but funny memories, too, such as Doug's awful history with the TGS lawyer. (Read the archives to know what I'm talking about.)
Firestorm: Like I said before, sorry I thought your girlfriend was pregnant. I got confused by what she was saying in her post. She straightened me out back then, hope the debate doesn't need to start up again. I now know that she is not pregnant (or at least she won't be anytime soon). Congrats on your engagement if I haven't said so already, may you enjoy many many happy years together. :)
Steve Gooch: It really sucks what that guy did to you in paintball. I can understand his motivation, those paintballs hurt and nobody should want to get hit by them. (Yes, I too have played the game.) But he should not have attacked you like that, it was completely unprovoked. He didn't even know if you hit him! Besides, getting hit with a paintball is a risk of the game, and risks must be accepted. Anyway, hope the game is still fun for you despite what happened to you. :)
Too bad I can't gloat to you about Eagle/Falcon Scout ages, you were about the same age I was when I got my ranks. Last minute panic was pretty much what motivated me to get my rank, too. Especially when we had to clean up the whole south side of the lake and people kept driving by and littering even as they saw us picking up the trash. <growl> At least we got it done. :)
TRC: Don't worry, you didn't offend us. As for my own survival skills, I learned a lot of them in the scouts. But they were really honed that summer I ran away from my family and spent time on the road with Snake and the other bikers. I had to use my skills many times to do everything from put us back on the right road to kill, clean, and cook some food for all of us. The others had survival skills, too, but we all had to pitch in. Working with them also served to hone mine. It was a good experience (but not just for that reason).
Kyryn: Saw your website, nice artwork. Will you be doing some more for TGS Season 3?
SJ: Personally, I thought GWH had a better script than LA Confidential. But LA Confidential was a good movie, too. It definitely deserved best picture more than Titanic, if only for its better plot and greater amount of character development.
Traveler: Thanks for telling us about mail-bombing, but we don't think we'll do anything like that to the jerk. Stephanie wants to put the whole experience behind her after she kills the guy in the RP.
Serenity: Welcome to the Comment Room. You have quite an ironic name. :)
Aerie: Sorry to hear about what's happening at your school. Too bad I can't give advice as to how to stop the thief without getting yourself in trouble. I think you should make a few inquiries around the school, though, and see if anyone does know who the thief is or has seen the stolen items. Chances are, somebody might have, and that could help.
Mandi: Big Fights taking up over half your fanfic? I thought Doug was the only author who did that. Looking forward to seeing your next story, when you get it finished.
Okay, that's all for now. See you, everyone!
**MORE RP**
Kitainia follows the others upstairs and goes into Kenny's office. Jammer and Tricia have already made the proposal to him that he help in the Marsh vs. Ravens lawsuit, and Kenny is laughing. "You do know," he says to Kitainia, "of the history your boyfriend and I have together, right? What made you think I would be willing to help you?" "Protecting your game," Kitainia shrugs. "After all, we provide you with a lot of lawsuit material, right?" "You used to, but not recently." "Come on, we both know TGS doesn't really need you that much so you're constantly starved for something to do up here besides die repeatedly. That's why you're always looking for a new case, a new suit, a new way to exercise your profession as a lawyer. Am I right?" "Yes. Are you saying I should take your case just because I'm bored?" "That, and we'll pay you everything this stuff is worth." She shows him some of Jammer's treasures, and Kenny gets all google-eyed. "Wow," he says to himself. "Okay," he then says to Kitainia, cracking a smile. "I'll take your case. Just don't kill me if we lose, okay?" Kitainia crosses her fingers behind her back, grins, and says, "Don't worry."
**RP OVER, TO BE CONTINUED**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 03:53:15 PM
IP: hil-c45-073-vty172.as.wcom.net
**Mandi comes in, and moves out of the way for Fox, Matt, and a security guard to come charging through the room, followed by a stampede of moving sculptures. They charge out the back door.**
**INCOHERENT FANFIC BABBLINGS**
Yes! Yes! I finally got the Big Fight Scene(tm) in "Night Shift" done! YES! (Considering the fight scenes take up half the fic, I'm pretty happy.) Now if I could just get it done....
**END FANFIC BABBLING**
Sorry, had to let that out. That was what the stampede was about, BTW.
CR Archive> Ah, the memories. The birth of the RP, the introduction of and subsequent mutilations of the CR Lawyer, the confusion over spoiler warnings, a debate over whether Asrial should end up with Roland, me mentioning "The Tain" over and over and over again, the argument over having a fae history series...**nostalgic little sigh**
Brooklyn's memory> I think Brooklyn and Sata really do remember their travels, but keep it to themselves so as not to disrupt the future. About Graeme and Ariana, though--I'm not sure. Those two can be irresponsible sometimes, since they are only kids; for instance, what if Ariana was frustrated and/or angry to the point when she blurted out something crucial about the future that she shouldn't have? Something like that. If they, too, retain their memories, it would be interesting to see an ep where one of the twins is sorely tempted to tell what they know to save a friend's life - even if it might compromise the future. One of those "growing up" moments.
Non-Garg shows> I've somehow managed to miss both the premiere of "Batman Beyond" and this week's Buffy ep. **smacks VCR**
Deuce> Just read your rant. They're going to recall "The Rescuers" because of WHAT?? That's so idiotic! Geez, the NSA's ban of Furbys from their offices seems entirely logical, serious, and necessary by comparison. :)
Well, thanks to the ice, I now get off an hour early. So I've got an hour to finish tracking changes on this document. **RL, she stares at the forwards in her mailbox.** Okay, HOW many people sent separate revisions in for this one report?? Oh, well.
**Mandi shrugs and walks out. A small crystal unicorn darts across the room, trying to stab regulars with its horn, until someone steps on it.**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 02:07:50 PM
IP: 131.92.166.193
No RP today ... I'm behind a day and have no idea what to do ...
RL Excedrin Headache #488: A compounding one, actually. Yesterday, I lost TWO sets of keys to Lexington in the snow ... wound up borrowing my mother's set to get to work. (She finally found mine at the base of our front porch steps ... still don't know where my hidden spare went)
That was at about 5:30 in the morning. It had just snowed the night before (another seven inches to add to my misery), so I would wind up getting to work about 15 minutes late (my shift started at 6.).
Oh, and the *topper* ... had to be towed home because, just on the home stretch into town, I had to stop behind someone going into a gas station. And the car stalled. AND IT WOULDN'T START BACK UP!!!!
AIIIIIIIIGGHHHH!!
**composes self somewhat**
Sorry. But that's the main reason why I didn't post last night. Fortunately, it appears all that was wrong with the car was that it was two quarts low on oil (I put a quart in and it started again), but it sounds like there's something electrical giving out on me (either the alternator or starter; I know the battery's still good because the starter tries to engage).
Anyway, enough about my crappy life ...
SJ: There's actually a shirt that says that ... it's my second-favorite misspelling shirt right behind "Another Brilyunt Mind Rekked by the (insert school district name here) Publick Skules."
The Alec Baldwin line is pretty good ... IIRC, it's from "Malice," right?
CR Archive: I had no idea I'd actually made it to the first room! Of course, my first post in here hadda be a SHAMLESS PLUG!! (incidentally, the color I used to use was "rose." I figured it was somewhat symbolic. ;)
Kitainia, Steve Gooch: Those are pretty good service projects. Okay, you went into detail on yours, I'll go into details on mine ...
My troop used a full weekend camping trip to build a bridge for a hiking trail that went over a dry streambed. The project itself actually took a little over three months to complete, as I had to apply for approval from the Hawaii DNR to proceed (which, knowing how bureaucracy works, took about two months to do). I'm not sure if the bridge is still up or not ... but it worked for its purpose at the time.
DumlaoX: Just a little nitpick ... the link for 11-01-98 goes to a nonexistent page for 11-18-98. Just thought you should know.
Fire Storm: ROTFLMSAO at that sentence of yours.
Robby: I see you noticed my blatant self-promotion ...
Shadow/Gargs: Actually, it's set in the *30's* in New York. Used to be a popular series of dime pulp novels and radio serials. Although I really liked the recent movie with Alec Baldwin.
Tim Phipps: I have a theory on this which has been used in my fics (HERE'S ANOTHER SHAMELESS PLUG, I'M SOOO SORRY!!!).
It goes like this ... he honestly can't reveal what he has seen of the future, because if he does, there is the possibility that that future could change. And any minor change in the present could add up to disaster in the future, both to the Clan or to Brooklyn or his family (the example I used in my first story is that a single grain of sand out of place in the present could result in anything from a head cold which didn't happen before to Graeme and Ariana winking out of existence.).
That's the problem with time travel into the future, or the past ... you can't tell anyone what you've seen, else what you've seen could change.
Carolynn: Even considered setting up a trap? Howzabout some kind of mild electical shock if anyone other than the proper owner of the bag touches it? (I know it's far fetched, but it is just a suggestion)
Doug: You've figured out Jojo, good. Unfortunately, you'd never figure out where Harry came from, so I'll tell ya anyway ... the old MTV sketch comedy show "The State" did a sketch with a freakshow one time which presented so-called "freaks" such as what Harry was (Medium Head Boy, he was called that because supposedly fire ants had eaten his brain and just made him stupid). At the end of the sketch, a three-armed man approaches the carny and asks to join the freak show. The carny asks him what he can do ... the three headed man says, "Well ... I can do this," and did the old curl-your-tongue-into-a-tube bit.
Serenity: Welcome, my dear. Be sure to check your sanity at the door. ;)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, January 14, 1999 12:24:37 PM
IP: modem64.i-is.com
** Deuce walks in. Zzzzz.... **
ORDELL re: PI> That movie rocks! It deserved a hell of a lot more recognition than it got, sadly, but it still ranks as one of my favourites. Actually, I'm renting it this weekend.
QUOTE> "I do have my lucid moments. [pause] I sure wish I knew if this was one of them." -- A Robot on the Starship "Titanic" (From the game)
SERENITY> Welcome! Duck! Give me your sanity and no one gets hurt! (Actually, just post more often... I LOVE that picture!)
**leaves**
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions and almost above-freezing weather, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:06:05 AM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net
Hello all can't write much too busy this week. Heck thank god for my vcr or i would have missed buffy just two quick thoughts. 1 How much choas is floating around in the Garg story. Just think you have Coyote, Puck, Loki, and Old Grandmother. Wonder if all the trickster are working together? 2 Loki did do some nice things for Brookyln. A honeymoon in the honeymoon captial of the world!! Our was it the Three sisters? How much control of the gate did Loki have?
well gotta jet see ya next week
Chattacon ho!!!
Ironwolf
chattanooga, tn
Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:05:47 AM
IP: host-209-215-8-191.cha.bellsouth.net
DOUG - I also saw that "Pinky and the Brain" episode. Actually, I can't help but think that it does have a certain similarity to the Emrys and Madoc portion of TGS; megalomaniac bent on ruling the world has a son to ensure assistance in his plans for global conquest, and said son doesn't want to help him, to megalomaniac's anger.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, January 14, 1999 07:50:57 AM
IP: pn2-ppp-78.primary.net
*waves* Heyla everyone! *yawn* I should be frantically finishing up a paper but instead I'm posting to the CR. I don't even have anything exciting to say, as I'm far too tired to be creative and interesting. I've been reading TGS for awhile now but today... er, yesterday, actually... was the first time I ventured into the CR. Seems like a prolific group! Anyway I've REALLY got to go finish my paper now, just wanted to introduce myself real quick. (Okay, so I wanted to procrastinate. *sigh*) Mata ne!
Serenity - [NeoQueen39@aol.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Thursday, January 14, 1999 07:04:25 AM
IP: spider-wn011.proxy.aol.com
Jeez, what the HECK am I still doing UP? I have turned sooo nocturnal since I got home on break. One might think I turn to stone during the day, for all the sunlight I've seen since Christmas... :)
Wilek > I admit I'd love to throw that psycho into a pirahna-infested river, but being that neither one of us is currently in the Amazon, I'll have to settle for dragging his @$$ to court. Oh, and btw: AOL CDs come in mighty handy as coasters. My collection of those is only outdone by my accumulation of spoiled CD-Rs.
Traveler > Write a little more next time. Please. :) <strip mining a really good mp3 ftp site I found > LOL I do that ALL the time at school (how do I miss my LAN? Let me count the ways...) I don't mind the pun. I've done worse myself. As for the "masked man," he wasn't wearing the mask when he sucker-punched me, so I was able to ID the bastard out of some 6-year-old DMV photos twice in a row. Warrant issued (maybe), cops giving me the runaround (always), big hassle quickly turning into a bigger one (typical). Where's a great cop (with a name like Maza or Bluestone or Chavez) when you need one?? Oh well, I'm not giving up on this one.
SJ > I think you misunderstand. I never shot the guy in the first place. And even if I had... that's the point of the game, isn't it? Doug, you've played paintball before. You never went onto the field with the intention of *not* getting hit at least once, did you? I know I sure didn't. Apparantly this fine, upstanding citizen thought differently.
Caroylnn > Wanna know what Webelos stands for, eh? Well, I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you. JEB would probably get upset with me breaking the vow of silence. Sorry.
Yes, this definitely sets a record for non-sleep in AM hours while at home. In fact, if I'm not mistaken the sun is peeking through my shades now. Which means it won't be soon before others in the household begind to rise to carry out their daytime activities. Which means it's time for Steve to be heading off to dreamland. Till next time.
PS. WE'll BE LOyal Scouts.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Thursday, January 14, 1999 05:58:47 AM
IP: spider-tq063.proxy.aol.com
Ahhh... Where to begin? How about what's going through my head this very moment. (WATCH OUT THIS COULD GET MESSY) Wellll....I'm typeing this post, strip mining a really good mp3 ftp site I found (Thank you Borg search engine!>:), listening to Led Zepplin's "Dazed and Confused", trying to figure out a fileing system for all of the mp3 files I've got because I'm going to give my new CD-RW a spin (so to speak), wondering if the NSA has either recruited one of my local friends or if he's had an unforunate "accident", when the (was it the History or The Learning Channel?) is going to show that A-Bomb/H-Bomb documentary again because it has some really great footage and death toll/structurial damage statistics>:)), hopeing I'll remember that Cartoon Network is showing BTAS: Sub-Zero this friday at four, why in the hell that console app I wrote is'nt doing what it's suppose to (I've been teaching myself C++, yes I get verryyy bored very fast), (seriously) contemplating building a propane powered flame-thrower (I live somewhere in Western New York, do the words "Lake effect" mean anything to anyone else here?, thinking about the feasablity of down-scaleing the SR-71's basic design into something I could get the FAA to classify as "experimental" *hehehehe* and wouldn't require something like 2 Million in fuel every time it went up (Hmmm...possible high end "Kit-Plane", it has already been done with the P-51 "Mustang" and the F-15 "Eagle"), how did it come to pass that the world is populated almost completely with idiots? (Go to the mall or any place where there are large groups of people and just watch them as if you were watching a nature documentary. It's both surprising and disturbing how unaware and inept they/(we?) are. (Further evidence is found on the Tonight Show whenever Jay Leno does one of his "Jay on the Street" bits. If you've seen these you know what I'm talking about.), I wonder if some psycholgy(sp?) student or market research team (Disney people, you know who you are.) is monitoring the CR?, AND finaly, I've just relized I haven't eaten in approx. 14 hours. I hunger...FOR SOULS!!!! *hehehe*
*Looks up* Well, that's the end of THAT little piece of my insanity.>:) And when I say little I MEAN miniscule.
Quotes:
"An idle mind is the Devil's monkey bars." -Sam and Max
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." -Unknown
"Seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses float inconspicuously around the inside of hangar ninety six. I say that they are inconspicuous because it is their arms and legs which demand my attention. I did this, or I could have stopped it. Which is it? It doesn't matter now. I did this and could have stopped it, but nothing in nature ever follows a gaussian curve. Sure, they'll tell you that it does. They say that every five minutes someone dies in a
car accident, but how often are there seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses in one hangar?" -Toth, the alien AI from one of the Marathon games
"Sure, my response might have seemed a little cryptic, 'If there is no justice, then how can the ends justify the means? Take that wax, for example, (I've started to ramble on now just like on the subway, and she is looking at me with that same look of hostility, bordering on the old familiar meaningless uncommunicative scream) when the candle was lit, did it know that in the end it was going to burn down to nothing and disappear into the air? You lit the candle to get the light from it. Your end was to have my asparagus and carrot cabin lit by this light. You used the candle as a means to obtain this. Does the light justify the destruction of the candle? What is justification to a
piece of wax? Its the same as the justification that you've given me about this 'durability' and our relationship.'" -Also Toth (Note: they were having dinner, that explains the asparagus and carrot cabin.)
"People say they want freedom, what they don't relize is that the very nature of freedom is chaos." -Me (Although it's most likely a paraphrased version that I read somewhere.)
"So be it...JEDI." -Emperor Palpline(sp?)
"If ignorance is bliss, than this is the happist place on Earth." -Quote I recalled and wanted to use for my High School Year Book; didn't think it would make it pass the censors, so I gave it to one of my friends who happened to know one of the editors>:))
Peter's Laws for the Sociopathic Obsessive Compulsive
"Why? Why not." -I have no idea
"Ludicris speed...GO!!!" -Lord Helmet
"Sir we've been jammed! Rasberry?! Only one man would dare give me the rasberry...LONE STAR!!! -Lord Helmet
(And anything else from Space Balls for that matter.:)
"Kill Him." -Scar from the Lion King
That's all I can think of for now.
****WARNING THIS IS AN EPISODE SPOILER. JUST TELLING YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW BEFORE HAND AND CAN'T COME CRYING TO ME INCASE YOU HAVEN'T READ THE EPISODE YET. *hehehehe* ****
Nocturne- I'd have to agree with whoever said that this one felt sorta disjointed. Although it made up for that with the character development given to ones that we haven't seen in awhile. One major beef I have though, is that scene where Brooklyn chases after Loki alone. IMO this is to far out of character for him, It's just a plain foolish move. Loki didn't have the ring, was trying to make an escape since the ring's curse made it worthless, Brook's family was relitivitly unharmed, and how does he expect to go tow to tow (talon?>:) with a fey? Away from that topic; I also enjoyed the irony of Elisa ruining her "date" by waiting for something to ruin it. *hehehe*
****THIS IS THE ENDING, THE ENDING, THE ENDING OF THE EPISODE SPOLIERS.****
>TGS STAFF- Dragons!!! Where are the dragons?! Another thought: Will their be TGS CR pictures of them?
>Doug- Feedback for "Brooklyn at Camelot" sure, OK. I'll just go re-read it so it's fresh in my head. Meant to when it first came out and I read it but then "crunch time" asscended upon us, and then the holidays... BTW it's odd that you should mention NORAD because one of my friends from high school works there.
>Batman: Beyond- It was pretty good, considering it could have been worse, MUCH worse. Liked the Blade Runner style they've got going with the buildings. Although I'm suprised nobody has brought this up yet: Can anyone say "Shades of Star Wars"? Having said that take another look at those security guards from Wayne-Powers. You can also see some of it in the plot itself. Re: Powers transformation- Ah...there's nothing quite like the laugh of a madman...I should know. *hehehe* Guess he won't need a nitelight anymore though. *hahahaheheheh* I have but one request. Bring back Powers right hand man Mr. Fix. I mean the name alone is enough reason to bring him back!
>Kitainia- Mail bombing you say? Quite easy actually, their are ways to do it even without those bombing programs.
>Fleur- Yea!!! Fleur's back! So sorry about what that nutcase said to you. People like that are walking Air-Tazer targets. At least he was banned from the mall(?).
>Spike- Re: Teasers- Stop that. Stop that or we shall have to hurt you.>:)
>NEW TGS STAFF MEMBERS- Before I forget, CONGRATULATIONS!!!
>To all who expressed their enjoyment of the quotes I put up with my last post- Thank you.
>Jewel- "Kingdom Come" Really great graphic novel. Recomended to anyone with any knowledge whatsoever of the DC Universe Characters.
>Christene- So Birdie finaly got her wish. Only problem is in 30-40 years; what Demona's reaction will be if and or when she finds out. *hehehehe* It was very nice seeing the "Seven Seas Clan" again and filling in the background story of what happened between them and Macbeth. I was wondering about them and their history for awhile now. *Reads about the nut people* Oh and one more thing, you're nuts>:))
>Todd Jensen- I was going to mention Mr. Frezze but don't forget about HARDAC...
>Carolynn Marie- Bait and trap. Ever hear of flurecent(sp?) power? The stuff that glows under UV light but is invisible to the naked eye otherwise? You could most likely obtain some at a well stocked hobby store or possibly a Spencer's. As for the UV light, check the science rooms or ask a teacher. Just a suggestion.
>Kyryn- OOOhhhhhhh....Dragons! Liked the art, nicely drawn. (Mind you this is coming from someone who could probaly design an actual battle mech' given a n-i-c-e Sun work station, a high-end CAD suite, and enough time, but couldn't draw freehand to save his life; so instead admires others' ability; so it could be said that i've seen quite a bit.) And some other thing which I have no idea what it is besides the fact that it is caled a "F'Dayn". Please explain.
>Steve Gooch & Fire Storm- So you like studying the history of the bomb do ya? Well put on you're thinking caps kids! What was the "Davy Crocket"? And Gooch? I just wanna say *OUCH* Ever find out who that (excuse the bad pun but I just can't help myself>:) masked man was?
>Jordan Retireing- The one thing you cannot deny is that the man is most likely the most talented person to ever and will ever be, to play that game. Other than that I don't really care what happens with the NBA strike and the controversy surounding it.
Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, AND THE DRAGON KING!!! HA! HA! It lives on!!!
****RP WARNING****
Just as Kitainia starts to drive Jammers station wagon into the portal, Traveler litteraly *POPS* into existence in the back seat. Traveler*still trying to solve that Rubik Cube from before*: Hello all. Nice day for a drive, isn't it? Kitainia*suprised, but continues to drive into the portal*: Traveler?! Where have you been? We could have used your help in a few battles we've had recently. BTW, that Timber Wolf you gave Gubio was destroyed. Traveler: Awww... well that sucks. Does he want me to replace it? As for the "where I've been lately question": cleaning out the time streams and monitoring SJ2, at least until they found the bug. Kitainia: Time streams?...O-K... And Gubio said no, in fact he said that if he ever sees another mech it'll be to soon. *pauses, then points to the Rubik Cube* And why are you playing with one of those?!!! Traveler: Well... as for Gubio, ask him if he would be interested in a battle suit of some type. Now the Rubik Cube? Well I have to clean out the time streams every once and awhile, most people have absolutely no idea how much stuff ends up in there. I go through it and remove powerful and dangerous items to store them in a more "secure" location. I mean that place is alot more open to those who know how to get there than almost everyone thinks. So I was poking around and found a really neat sword. It's magical signature said it's name was Dyrnwyn or some thing. Quite a powerful blade actually, you wouldn't happen to know of anyone who might want or need a sword? Anyway back to the cube. So I was on my way out and spotted this thing. *shrugs his shoulders* It was a Rubik Cube, and who am I to resist? Kitainia*not quite believing his explanation*: Yeah, sure, but why are you here? Traveler: I'm tagging along for a little while, if that's ok with you. Well that and the fact that I just put Johnny Cochrin(sp?) on retainer just in case you or I need him and his infamous "Chewbacca" defense. Look at it this way, who do you think is going to be the main target of Marsh's lawyers? Could it be that lunitic who shot up the Marsh building in Austin with a Spectare Gunship? Or the nut who used a fusion core to vaporize what was left after he helped trash the inside and steal a multi-million dollor mainframe computer system? Oh wait! Those were both me! *grins mainicaly and starts to laugh* Kitainia: Alright, you have a slight point there. Scene fades out as they continue to travel through the portal.
****END OF RP****
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Thursday, January 14, 1999 02:14:34 AM
IP: 172-6-244.ipt.aol.com
NO RP TONIGHT
Doug-I knew I was forgetting to write something last night, but my brain had already fallen asleep. My guy is with your group.
Jordan retiring-I don't understand all why everyone has a problem with this. If he wants to leave and come back and now leave again (maybe for good) let him. He should be able to do what he wants. In a year he could decide to come back again and it shouldn't matter what everyone thinks. It's his life so let him make live it. So what if he's famous.
Oh look I'm beginning to rant. I guess I should get some sleep before I make a federal case out of this or something. I'm not even a basketball fan.
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Thursday, January 14, 1999 02:03:33 AM
IP: pm1-15.sma.silcom.com
***RP at bottom.***
Kitiana: You mentioned L.A. Confidential. In my opinion, it was a travesty of justice that it didn't win the Oscar for best picture. AND Russell Crowe (one of my fave actors), Guy Pearce, and Kevin Spacey should have been nominated for awards. At least one of them should have. And the script for "Good Will Hunting" beat the script for "Confidential"??? I'm BITTER!
Brooklyn: Yeah, I've always thought he knows some stuff. I'm betting....actually I'm hoping....that it's the "Future Tense" timeline! Maybe not exactly like it, I mean, there's been some definite changes since the World Tour ended. But it could still happen.....Lex is gonna go Norman Bates on us! I'm cyked!
Deuce: Yes, join us! The Counter Culture Revolution has begun!
And, to further my remarks about Jordan: He ain't done. Next year, when they have a regular season (and thus get paid more) he'll probably be back. I'm betting he goes no longer than 2 years, then he'll come back. They always come back...
CR Archive: I debuted about the third room. I started my ilustrious career here with a rather mean-spirited little remark about the sex life of Goliath and Elisa. Figures. :0P
Pi: That's a great movie. They showed it here at my university, and I loved it. Another great indie flick is "Smoke Signals", all about Native Americans.
Dracon & Elisa playin' kissy face: Oh dear....well, it would clear the question as to why all that hostility....Gee, I wonder what Goliath would think of that? If I was Tony, I wouldn't be in the COUNTRY when the big guy found out.
Gooch: Maybe next time you should substitute the paintgun for the REAL thing. (I'm sorry, I've been reading "Good Omens" by Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett, and that's *just* what happens. Gee, demons have a good sense of humor, huh?)
QUOTE$!!!
"We all go a little crazy sometimes."
---Norman Bates AND Skeet Ulrich, "Pyscho" and "Scream" respectively.
"You jabronies had better know your role and shut your hole, otherwise the Rock's gonna have to lay the smack down on your candyasses!"
"Do you smell what the Rock is cookin'?"
---Professional wrassler, "The Rock"
Wife: "Hey! Why's this trash bag so heavy?"
Husband: "I TOLD you your grandmother died!"
---from the fake commercial, "White-Trash Bags"
(they come in 1 ply, 2 ply, and How the @#$% Did You Get It In There? ply)
"C'mere you coconut-headed motherf***er!"
---the King, Elvis Presley, talking to his pet chimp "Scatter the Monkey". What, you thought only M.Jackson had weird pets?
"I wasn't born with enough middle fingers."
---the always rambunctious, somewhat mischievious, Mr. Marilyn Manson. (I'm reading his autobio. Again.)
The Rescuers: I have seen the frames in question; nothing significant. No one could even see the buggers unless you maybe had a DVD or Laserdisc version and went through it frame by frame. And the pay off ain't that great.
But, if I may draw the ire of Mr. Jensen and speak somewhat negatively of Disney, it doesn't surprise me that some artists snuck those pics in. It's their way of fighting an oppressive, megalomaniacal company that is simultaneously sucking the very marrow from their bones and crushing them beneath the heel of industry.
Or maybe they're just pervs. Haven't decided yet.
As for "Aladdin".....I've always had a thing for Jasmine. I'm proud to admit that. Arabian princess, mmmmm hmmmm!
***Short RP BEGINS****
Sevarius, Jerec, and Burgo are still debating exactly what to do, when they are suddenly snapped out of their conversation by the tell-tale whine of a laser rifle being fired.
All look in surprise at SJ (the clone, but they still don't know that) who, if you caught my last post, is now severly mutated. (Why? Find out soon!)
"S-Son?" Sevarius asks, shocked by the sight of his offspring.
SJ 2 smiles; it is a hideous, frightening sight. "So," he growls. His voice is much deeper and raspier than before. "You want to destroy the Dark Star Fleet? Well....I think I can help you do that."
***END RP FOR NOW*****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:14:30 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net
Steve: You get CREDIT for studying nukes? Lucky dog!
DAMN YOU MURPHY!
Coldstone: (On Dracon): E-mail me!
Carolynn: Get a camcorder to watch your bags. (At worst, you can use to footage to get money on the net! <G>)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:10:07 PM
IP: dhcp161.visitus.net
When will the quotes stop?!>
"Women: You can't live with them, and you can't get them to dress up in a skimpy Nazi costume and beat you with a warm squash."
~Emo Phillips
"At my lemonade stand I used to give the first glass away free and charge five dollars for the second glass. The refill contained the antidote."
~Emo Phillips
"Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change."
~Unknown
"Sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma."
~Unknown
"Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, 'I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease'. Disraeli replied, 'That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles
or your mistress.'"
~Unknown
"A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit."
~In the August 1993 issue, page 9, of PS magazine, the
Army's magazine of preventive maintenance
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."
~Hunter S. Thompson
"As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so."
~Hunter S. Thompson's lawyer
"His fountain pen was so expensive it looked as if someone had grabbed the pope, turned him upside down and started writing with the tip of his big pointy hat."
~Unknown
"McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty Bag filled with vegetable soup."
~Unknown
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 10:59:34 PM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
Might I recommend a movie I saw today. It's an indie flick called "Pi", and it's really, really good. It's kind of hard to explain, so I won't try. But it came out on video yesterday....
Ordell - [jwaltrip@cableone.net]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 10:47:19 PM
IP: ppp-66.ode.cableone.net
**RP!**
[The Dark Star emerges from hyperspace near the fleet in their top-secret staging area. All the ships dock with the station, and almost immediately a team of medics arrives with an antigrav gurney, to get SJ to the Dark Star's medlab. Wilek: "Get a blood sample and put SJ into stasis! NOW!"
**END RP!**
Quotes>
"Of course, I am rather imaginative, and my mind sometimes moves in disturbing directions..."
~Sir Alfred Hitchcock
"Granted, the victim suffers a bit. But rules are rules."
~Sir Alfred Hitchcock
"Then throw it all away and eat the muskrats."
~Unknown
"GO [censored] YOURSELF!!!"
~Meat Loaf
Doug> You'll be glad to know that I submitted two of my stories to the GFW last night; I guess not being able to get in was just a temporary glitch. Hm. $The Farore's Wind spell is from Zelda 64; the first time you cast it in a dungeon/temple, it sets down a warp point that you teleport back to the next time you cast it.$ BTW, the way to have pics in a GFW story is to have the IMG SRC command refer to a picture outside the GFW. I used this to put a WAV file in my third story. Guess you'll have to keep that file directory after all. :) I've read about the Pinky And The Brain ep you saw. Did you know that Pinky's original choice of names--before they decided on Romy--was ever so slightly off-color? Also, Romy's voice when he was younger and sounded like Pinky was actually done by Maurice LeMarche, who also does Brain's voice. Romy's older, more serious voice was done by Rob Paulsen, who did the voice of Pinky. Ironic really.
Robby> A five hour director's cut of Titanic?! OH THE HUMANITY!
I got another AOL disc in the mail last week. $I thought I sicced Pinhead on the idiot who was sending these. :/$ Oh well, I can always give it a razor edge and use it as a chakram.
FS> <<And I still think that Elisa and Dracon knew each other for a good many years before Gargoyles>> Hm, interesting idea. If I were an Elisa fan I might do a fic along those lines...
Steve Gooch> The best thing to do to idiots like who you described is to just throw them into a river full of pirahnas.
Good luck all you exams ppl.
Stephen> Fortune City? Um, they automatically put advertising banners on EVERY SINGLE PAGE. I considered them for my site, but I ended up choosing GeoCities because of this.
**NO CLOSING RP TONIGHT**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 10:35:41 PM
IP: cache.zoomnet.net
**RP WARNING**
Doug and those with him (including Fleur and Frodo, I hope the latter doesn't mind; we don't know what group Jaden's going with) are on the road to Colorado Springs. Unknown to them, a small green VW Beetle is following them. Inside are Grant Ireland, some fat pockmark-faced guy who's almost completely bald and dressed like Bill Gates (he's the pervert who sent Stephanie those e-mails), and two women dressed like preppie femme fatales. "Mistress Asil," a redhaired one named Nicole is saying into her cell phone. "We've spotted the Ravens heading north from Santa Fe, and are following. Should we engage?" "For now, keep them under surveillance," Asil tells the girl who in high school nearly ruined the life of one of Doug's best friends. "If it looks like they're heading for Colorado Springs, stop them. We cannot let them get in the way of our operation to take over NORAD." "Yes, mistress." Meanwhile, inside the truck cab, Doug is making a CR post.
**PAUSE RP**
Just a few quick replies.
Coyote: Saw an episode of Pinky and the Brain today where they cloned themselves a kid. Now I finally know where you got Jojo the thirsty boy. :) Good episode, too. I liked the kid's attitude towards taking over the world.
SJ: Glad you think we're interesting. We think the same about you, just so you know. You certainly have a good sense of humor and ability to write. $ Wonder what your clone's going to do next, now that he's been somehow bizzarely mutated. $
Buffy: I liked last night's ep, too, even if it was a little weird seeing Buffy's mom doing so many things I never expected from her character. And SJ's right, Evil Witch Willow was okay, but Vampire Willow was much cooler. :)
Happy Belated Birthday Durid!!
CR archives: Thanks for posting these, Dumlao. A lot of good memories were brought back as I paged through them last night. :) I miss all the people who posted here a few times and then never came back, wonder what happened to them. And Firestorm's right, my writing style has definitely changed since I first started posting here. Guess it's evolution. I like my new style better, so I'm gonna stick with it. Firestorm's also right about Jackal, he was a little less insane back then. But then, so were many of us. I'm glad we've all gone crazy. <maniacal laughter>
TRC: $ We're not planning to attack another Marsh Building any time soon. First we want to stop him suing us, and then Gubio has a cunning plan to bankrupt the guy. We're gonna do those first. Then we may attack his war machine factory and stop Thailog from mass-producing Metal Gear 5000s. Then we'll eventually destroy his corporate HQ in San Francisco, CA. But we're not going to hit any more Marsh Buildings real soon, so you can place the one you want to take out (I assume that's what you're thinking of doing) wherever you want. Good luck. $
Survival Skills: It really wasn't my family who taught me survival skills so much as other people. My grandfather did teach me lots about horse riding, driving, first aid, and running. I also learned some other minor skills from the rest of my family, like hunting from Uncle Jimmy and negotiation (which is a survival skill in today's world, although with people, not wilderness) from observing my stepfather. But the main bulk of my survival skills came from other people I encountered and learned from in my life. Such as Mr. Lathrop, who taught me all about water purification, navigation, hiking, finding food in the wilderness, climbing, and what to do about animals that might want to eat you. There have also been a few other teachers who taught me sports, swimming, running, and stuff like that. And then there was another guy named Mark Linnet, who taught me how to fight. He was a martial arts instructor. My shooting skills don't come from any specific person, I just learned them at video arcades. Yes, I know that games are no substiute for practice with real guns, but I can't do that as much. I have played paintball a few times, though, and been on a couple hunting trips. Sometimes I also go out to the shooting range with my .45 and practice there. But I don't do that as often. Oh well, it's not like I have the need to shoot people a lot right now, so it's probably okay that I don't keep in that much practice. All the people who taught me got their skills from experience, as far as I know.
Argent: Best of luck on your exams.
Aerie: Hope you catch that thief soon. I know how bad it can feel to have your space violated. Tell your friend that if she needs to vent, or wants to find some new friends online, she's welcome to come in here and join our CR madness. As for how you could catch the thief, I'm not sure. It sounds like you've just about exercised every possible option. One thing you might do, though, is if your gym is the kind of place where some students get small lockers and others big ones (my middle and high schools were like that), make a friend who has access to a big locker and store her bag in there. That would stop the thief. Or you could get the school to post a guard on the locker room during classes, but that won't really work if the guard is obvious because then the thief (who is probably a student) will know about him and not get caught. He'll probably stop stealing, but that's only half solving the problem. Whatever happens, I hope no more of your friend's stuff gets taken from her.
Kyryn: Saw your website, you have some nice artwork there. I especially like your dragon drawings. Wonder if you'll soon be doing any for the TGS Staff. Dragons, dragons, dragons, whoops, that's Traveler's job. :)
Okay, that's all for now. Later people!
**MORE RP**
Stephanie, who's riding in the cab with Doug, taps him on the shoulder. "I think we're being followed," she says. "That green Yugo's been with us since we left Taos, and I think that's Grant Ireland who's driving it." Doug checks his mirror and nods. "Yep, that's him. Looks like my cheating ex-girlfriend Alexandra and Nicole Janson, the guy who ruined my pal Chris's social life back in tenth grade, are with him. I don't know the other guy." "Doug, we have to do something. If they see where we're going..." "I know, I know. Hang on, and tell the guys in the back I'm about to do something kinda drastic." "What? Or do I even want to know?" "You'll see." Doug checks the Yugo's position and begins backing up the truck as the screen fades to black. To be continued.
**THIS BIT OF RP OVER**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 09:28:53 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zoi-vty21.as.wcom.net
Click my name for my position on the "perverts" at Disney.
Deuce - [<--- Hey! I said click!]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 09:27:04 PM
IP: ts1387.connect.ab.ca
**Kyryn runs through the room and leaves a note hanging in the air**
**WARNING: BLATANT PLUG
Well, I finally got my Website up. Not much there yet but some of my artwork, but you're welcome to look. Click on my name below to go there.
**END OF PLUG
Carolyn> I hope you get the thief. I can't think of much in the way of ideas at the moment, but you might want to try and watch who goes into the room during P.E.
I'm off to see 'Mighty Joe Young'
Later All
**The note drifts slowly to the floor in the wake of Kyryn's passage**
Kyryn - [<<--clicky-clicky]
Uvalde, Tx
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 07:45:38 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Due to circumstances beyond our control, the Gargoyles World Tour: Dallas/Gathering '99 web site has moved. You can now find it at our new home at http://www.khatt.net/gwt.
If anyone has any questions about the upcoming convention, you can also send them to gwtg99@khatt.net.
Thank you.
Thomas F. Revor, Jr.
GWT:D/G99 Convention Chairman
Thomas F. Revor, Jr. - [gwtg99@khatt.net]
Dallas, TX
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 07:04:36 PM
IP: 208.13.191.137
Hmm... Seems rumors are true, Disney HAS recalled the Rescuers due to 2 frames of nudity in the background. The offesive footage has been in there for 20+ years, in the original edition of the movie. Which means, if any of you people are psychotics with far too much free time on your hands and enjoy looking for that kind of thing, you can find it in your old copy using a frame by frame slow-mo button... Don't know which scene, you'll have to search them all to find it I guess... Oii... A Disney classic forever banned for two frames out of 100,000 that no one has noticed in the last twenty years... Pity. Perhaps they'll "fix" the problem and re-release it in a few years with the frames cut out or computer edited...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 06:50:25 PM
IP: spider-wa063.proxy.aol.com
CAROLYNN MARIE> ["There's been some serious thefts during gym class at my school..."] Sounds scary. I don't know enough about your school's layout or rules to be of much help, but I can sympathize. My friend is the editor of the school paper, and her office was broken into a couple days ago. They got a bunch of pictures, a lot of money, and her Zip disk, which had some irreplacable data on it. She was "beyond pissed". I hope you find the thief!
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 06:21:59 PM
IP: ts13111.connect.ab.ca
Hi-ho!!
"Why do they call him Lucky Bob?"
"Cuz he was really lucky when he fell out of that tree."
Lucky Bob: "Hi-ho!"
---Hysteria
Happy 21st, Durid :) Drinking age in the states; congrats :D Though of course there's more benefits, but that's the first that springs to mind. Does 21 make someone an adult? You drive at 17, vote at 18, and drink at 21. When do people consider a youth an adult? I've never figured it out.
Steve< Oh, congrats!! My cousin made it to the Eagles a few years ago (I was a brownie when I was little). He said it's a real cool experiance. Wishin' ya luck :)
<< Hey, Webelos ain't bad. How many people here know what that stands for? Heh heh heh.>>
What DOES it stand for?
<<Interesting tidbit- Disney has recalled all the video releases of the Rescuers, something like 4 million of 'em, because somehow, for about 2 frames, a topless woman was in it. Can't confirm this personally, but thought it was interesting all the same. >>
'Somehow'? I don't see how Disney could 'somehow' miss a topless woman in the movie :) (or why someone would draw that in the first place).
Actually, I'm not too surprised. There's a lot of hidden messages in the Disney flicks alluding to sex (so I've heard; I've never seen 'em myself, but for some reason a lot of people are experts on finding this stuff. Go fig).
Oh, dear, I ain't a happy halfling. There's been some serious thefts during gym class at my school. There's always been stuff disappearing, but within the last two months it's gotten worse. My friend's stuff is disappearing fast. Last month, someone stole her graphing calculator. Today, her jelly roll pens and V-neck Abercrombie & Fitch shirt were taken from her backpack (ironically, no one took the money from her purse or her new calculator). She's locked up her locker, but her bag's fair game since there's no room in the lockers for them.
The girls and I aren't sure what to do. Even if they lock up the locker room during classes, Kelly still wouldn't get her stuff back (the calculator alone belongs to the school and costs $115). My friends and I were thinking of checking up on the room every few minutes during class in shifts in hoping to catch the thief, but the teachers wouldn't like that. We've told the teacher, but they don't know what to do, either. Any ideas? We want to catch the jerk who did this. Kelly was so upset she started crying *grr*. She's too nice to let something like this happen.
Hansel and Gretel< Heehee, I love this! *creativity demon tugs on her pant leg* Hey, how about the three bears take Goldilocks to court for breaking and entering and damage of private property, and it turns out they framed her because she snooped around and found they were counterfeiting porridge in their basement and ... *blanks out*
Yikes, I need a demon leash :)
Jeb< *L* I seriously need to read something like that if you ever write it!
The textbooks are calling me ... better finish my studying. Good luck to you guys with mid-terms coming up!
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 05:55:04 PM
IP: spider-wi073.proxy.aol.com
Steve>> Congrats on the Eagle Scout.
Vanessa - [jackaop@]
Texas
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 05:35:22 PM
IP: lubp2-0.iglobal.net
Oops! I almost forgot. For all you technology nuts out there, fans out there, this months issue of "Popular Mechanics" feature an article about bionic implants such as synthetic muscles, arms, eyes, and other senses.
Tim Phipps
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 04:36:43 PM
IP: s3-onawa.pionet.net
EPISODE SPOILER
Nocturne was a good episode. It's nice to see Goliath and Maza back in the spotlight. It's ironic that their date went bad because nothing went wrong. When a day passes by and nothing bad happens to me, it's often a bad omen.
It seems that the rouge FBI agent Martin Hacker is at it yet again. He just better pray that he doesn't come across Special Agent Mulder. After all the crap he had to put up Krycheck a.k.a. "Ratboy", Mulder might whup Hackers @$$:)
Uhem. Escuse me for a minute while I get my medication.
It's also good to see that Lexington is recovering a little. The dude needed to catch a break.
END SPOILER
Brooklyn the Timedancer> For a while, I have been a tad suspecious about Brooklyn's intentions in the present. In "Out of Joint" part 2 he said "If there were anyone's future I could change, it would be his." Whenever someone asks him about his travels, he claims to not being able to remember. His knowledge of what will happen, or more importantly, his apparrent refusal to do anything about it, could prove to be dangerous. No offense to Brooklyn fans, but I have my concerns. It seems that Lexington has already paid the price. Otherwise, he's about as cool as ever.
Micheal Jordon Retires> It's probably just as well. A person doesn't need to be paid $40,000,000+ just to shoot hoops and sign shoe endorsment deals. The President of The Unted States is paid less than $200,000, and with all the scandals put aside, he actually does something useful! These days, pro-sports are just commercials with oversized payrolls.
END FREE FLOATING HOSTILITY SEGMENT
Tim Phipps
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 04:28:57 PM
IP: s3-onawa.pionet.net
SJ> I totally agree with your rant. As for my Hated Enemy, this inspires no negative feelings towards you. I agreed with him most of the time, too. (It was the one time I didn't... but that's another story). So, THAT'S what I am: "counter-culture"! Thanks for clearing that up. :-)
** leaves, cursing his ISP for keeping him offline for two days. **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 03:34:49 PM
IP: edtnca01.telusplanet.net
Sorry for not posting for a while, but edits and I are going around on a few scenes for another story... Grrr! I HATE re-writes! :P
Gargoyles/Shadow> Speaking of crossovers, I had this idea (and still have the plot and everything) for a "Kung-Fu: The Legend Continues" cross-over with Gargoyles... had Kane facing Macbeth & Demona, Peter meeting Elisa, and Kermit waxing poetic with Bluestone... one of my more inspired ideas.
But all this talk of crossovers reminds me I still have several unfinished ones: Gargs w/Transformers, Gargs w/Pirates of Dark Water, etc., etc.
FireStorm (Re: Dracon Comment): Hmmmm... Ah, forget it. I won't bring down the wrath of the CR moderator for what I could say... :P
Steve Gooch> Congrats on making Eagle! I went all the way to the end of Webelos, but never crossed over into Boy Scouts. Ah well...
Just a word in passing: My own garg-site - Wyvern-On-The-Aerie, is moving to Fortune City, due to all the headaches I get over Xoom alternatingly blocking access to my site. I'll post the new location URL after I move everything over.
That's all for now, Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 02:00:43 PM
IP: m85.ieway.com
Steve>> Congratulations on making Eagle!! My husband is an Eagle Scout and I discovered early on that camping goes a lot smoother with a Scout in the family.
Spike
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 01:46:28 PM
IP: dal-as2-1005.cmpu.net
**Kyryn delurks to post**
$RP continuity> Oops. Sorry about that. Coyote's post went up while I was writing mine and I didn't get to check back, since the server went down for maintenance as soon as I finished.$
**SPOILERS FOR NOCTURNE**
I felt that Elisa's nervousness was justified. I've felt that way sometimes! Nevertheless, it still grated on the nerves got distracting towards the end.
I was also a little put out by Brooklyn's destruction of the Andvari's ring. First, it seemed too easy an end for such a powerful artifact. Second, I could easily have seen Loki maneuvering to get the ring later, or letting someone else get it, and handing it over to Madoc just to see the havoc it created when the curse kicked in.
I would have also liked to see a bit more detail in Lex and Liz's date at REBELcon. There's just too much potential for fun at a con. I could easily see this as a whole story in and of itself.
***END SPOILERS***
Steve> Congrats on making Eagle Scout!
JEB> The Shadow/Gargoyles? Sounds like it would have fun possibilities, especially with some of the 'gray' lines that Xanatos, Fox, and others have crossed in the past. Actually, I once had a thought for an Indiana Jones/Shadow/Phantom crossover, since they all existed around the same time. It's still running around the back of my brain and may come out one day.
FS> on spoilers - *l*
Durid> Happy B-day.
**Kyryn relurks and goes off with a sledgehammer to get some printers working**
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, Tx
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 09:55:53 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Sorry about the earlier spelling complaints. I've got a bit too much of the English major in me, I guess.
BUFFY - I also liked last night's episode (although my personal favorite part of the Giles/Cordelia scene was the "One of these days you're going to wake up in a coma" line). Did anybody who saw it, incidentally, find themselves thinking "Quarrymen" throughout it? Truth to tell, I feel that this is the way that the Goliath Chronicles *should* have handled the Quarrymen. They would have been a lot scarier that way than the band of one-dimensional mercenaries that the Lewalds gave us. (And it's a good thing that there were no gargoyles in Sunnydale at the time. Otherwise, Buffy, Willow, and Amy might have found themselves with company at their stakes).
Come to think of it, the timing of that episode was particularly interesting, given our recent discussion on "revisionist fairy tales". So Hansel and Gretel framed the witch, eh?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 08:22:30 AM
IP: 209.223.93.167
GATHERING 99. They changed servers and the old server did not put a "We have Moved" forward for them. Here is the new url courtesy of Spike.
http://www.khatt.net/gwt/
Thanks Spike.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 06:36:41 AM
IP: proxy-311.public.rwc.webtv.net
I have semester exams coming up (YUCK!), so I probably won't be on here very much this or next week.
Jordan Retiring: What I can't believe is he may RETIRE at the ripe old age of 36!
Also: I respect him as an athlete, but in general, I'm sick of the Bulls winning all the time.
Titanic: I for one loved the movie, but only saw it *gasp* ONE TIME.:P Why would some one want to see it over and over and over.... (The boat sinks! Get over it!)
Gotta Jet!
(Eight months 'till new Dark Ages eps)
(Four months, 8 days 'till 'Phantom Menace' come out!)
Argent
Ohio, USA
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 06:30:51 AM
IP: dyn-201.belpre.frognet.net
Night all , its 3am here and for some reason which I am now unable to remember , I am up .
Durid : Happy belated 21st . You sound like you enjoyed it so I wo'nt say that I hope you did .
Doug : Interesting , you learned survival skills from family . Were they in some organization , like the military . Or do they just chalk it up to experience . I learned about navigation , hiking , water purification , first aid and shooting from my cadet Batallion camps , although I had already learned most of it from my Father . I just need to know one more thing , which Marsh corporation building are you going to hit .
Kitainia : I (by pure luck) managed to catch that episode on tape the first time I saw it AND GO HELP THE SOUL OF THE UNFORTUNATE INDIVIDUAL THAT TAPES SOME FOOLISHNESS OVER IT , sorry it's just that this has happened to me far too many times . I saw it repeatedly , that's how I got it all in my had like that . I too am currently unpartnered , I do have an interest but I just do'nt know how to go about it and am afraid of wrecking a good thing .
<re : "We seem like the most imaginitive and intelligent people in the world soetimes . " > (TRC is overcome by a massive case of the giggles as he tries unsuccessfully to stifle his laughter , he condition further degrades to the point where he is clutching his sides rolling on the ground laughing out loud with tears streaming from his eyes . He eventually recovers and gets back up trying to restore what remains of his dignity .) Sorry I could'nt resist , if (god forbid) I have offeneded , let me know and I'll fall on my sword .
But keep in mind what time it is over here , my mind does'nt work too well this early .
Monty Pyhon and the Holy Grail : I have never seen all of that show , I've just seen the parts with the three headed giant and the guy in the castle who refused them to the castle access and dissed them .
Shadow/Gargoyles crossover - hmm . maybe this could be done but the problem would be that "The Shadow" is set in around the 50s I think . And even if it was New York (I ca'nt remember for sure ) the Gargs would not have arrived yet .
Oh dear , just remembered why I'm up , have to study fr exams next week . So I now take my leave of you all . Enjoy your day and live it like its your last . (by this I do not mean go around and kill everyone who has ever offended you .) . In retrospect for some people that may be bad advice , Oh well .
The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 03:26:51 AM
IP: 208.11.41.194
Thanks for the congrats, guys. 'Preciate it.
Kitainia > As to age, I was 17 when I finished all my requirements. I had to leave for college a month before I aged out, so needless to say the last of my paperwork was in about 48 hours before I left. I could/would/should have gotten it all done sooner, but we had problems in our troop (i.e. all the guys close to my age dropped out within a year of each other, leaving me and 15 rugrats). Therefore the main motivating force was, as always, last-minute panic. But I got it all done, and I'm damn glad it's over.
Coyote RE project > I organized the cleanup of a local dry streambed/drainage ditch. 3 weekends got about a mile of this ditch cleaned of all the garbage, foliage, broken glass, soda bottles, old computers, toilets, building materials, power transformers, refrigerator boxes, fishing rods, bowling balls, etc. I think the best was when a local cop wanted to boot us out for trespassing until I showed him the letter from the county DPW that said we were allowed to be in there. Apparantly some of the neighbors thought that we (me, my parents, and 4-5 12-year-olds) were doing drugs or something back there (you know how paranoid little old ladies can get :).
Jordan's retirement > Yeah. We'll see how long this lasts. I just lost all respect for the guy after he said his father would see his last NBA game - and then came back to the NBA after his father died.
Fire Storm > <the fact that I am TOTALLY obsessed with Nuclear weapons> Heh. Maybe I shouldn't tell you that I'm trying to get into a class this semester called "Science & Technology Studies 407: The history and political influence of the Atomic Bomb." 4 credits. Is that awesome or what!
JEB > Hey, Webelos ain't bad. How many people here know what that stands for? Heh heh heh.
***BEGIN RANTING AND RAVING***
As to why Steve won't play paintball on the 8th of any month > Well, it seems that the last (and first) time he did so, August 8th of last year, some @$$hole with an attitude problem decided to vent his frustrations on being eliminated from the last game on the closest, most non-threatening person around - me. I'm just sitting there, minding my own business after the day is done, and this big dude calmly walks over and slugs me in the mouth. He yells something about me shooting him in the head and takes off. Apparantly this guy had super-human recognition abilities because he was able to single ME out from a crowd of, oh, 30 people (all of which are dressed exactly the same - cammies and full face masks) as the person who shot him with a paintball in the BACK of the head. The BACK, mind you. Plus there's the little tidbit of my gun running out of CO2 AND jamming irreparably at the beginning of the game, so I couldn't even shoot the dirt in front of me, let alone somebody on the other side of the field.
So anyway, this guy decks me - breaks my JAW in two places - and bolts. He got to slip away from the employees. I got two nights in the hospital. I got to get my mouth wired shut. I got to take my meals through a STRAW for seven weeks. All as I was about to start my first semester of college.
And, quite frankly, even though the possibility of a repeat occurrance is like 18 billion to one, I don't want to give Murphy (of Murphy's Law fame) the chance to get the drop on me. So, being the superstitious freak I am, I'm gonna lay low on the 8th of every month. No paintballing then.
***END RANTING AND RAVING***
My, that was therapeutic.
[The CR shrink smiles. "Now, doesn't that veel better?"]
Hey, pal, back off. Next you'll be billing me.
Ok, must get rest. Big day of goofing off and waiting till I can get back to school and my T3 connection on the 19th. Night all.
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 02:32:54 AM
IP: spider-ti043.proxy.aol.com
****RP****
Tracker had been monitoring Thailogs progress ever since he had joined up with him. Despite their failures to capture Jaden and destroy his new allies he feels that this is his best chance of completing his mission.
Suddenly his communication system activates...
"REPORT YOUR CURRENT STATUS TRACKER."
"I have made an alliance which will insure Jaden's capture," he relies.
"HURRY I GROW TIRED OF WAITING!!" the tranmission ends.
"I will soon have him." Tracker says to himself and goes to rejoin Thailog.
****END RP****
Fav. quote-"Ray! When someone asks if your a god you say YES!!!" (Ghostbusters)
"Vege, Vege, Vege. You have been a bad Monkey!" (Ghostbusters II)
Doug and Kitainia-sorry to hear about your website.
****EP SPOILERS
It's a good one. Goliath and Elisa finally get some time alone. I liked the Lex and Liz thing and I hope it keeps going.
oh and one last thing...
Harrison Hamill?!
***END SPOILERS***
Babylon 5-I just saw that movie "A Call to Arms" is this going to be the story to the new spin-off show?
Well I got class tomorrow morning...so "see" you people later.
Harrison Hamill?
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 02:20:36 AM
IP: pm1-1.sma.silcom.com
**SLICE OF CR LIFE **
Kenny the CR Lawyer is carefully reading over Fire Storm's last post. "Blast,he covered all the bases! I never get to have any fun!" Scratchy the CR Psychiatrist looks oddly at him and shrugs. He's already started getting used to the madness.
**END SLICE OF CR LIFE **
Fire Storm- Thats a bad creativity demon with Dracon calling his bed cofee... Interesting though...
The archives are fun! Seeing who was here when the CR first started, and who's left since then... And Coyote's shameless plug in his first post...
Here's a fun quote from the first week...
"What exactly did you mean by the spoiler thing? I don't really understand."
-Dumlao June 4, 1998
Robby
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 01:49:41 AM
IP: spider-we024.proxy.aol.com
Ya know what?
My posts are DEFINATELY more demented when Lady Mystic by my side.
Maybe it is because she sparks my imagination...
Maybe beacuse she radiates creativity...
Maybe because I like to see her laugh...
Hmm... I think it's that last one!
<>BIOHAZARD WARNING! KINDA ADULT STUFF AHEAD<>
(Word of caution! I hope I don't offend anyone. I just HAD to get this out) (DERN SPELLING LOT BOYS!)
The Trojan Wars were about differences in Lifestyles of various Sheiks, such as Ramsies and others. They really lost thier grip on Reality, didn't they! All they cared about were their little Golden Coins.<G>
WHY Ramsies? One Ramsies had MANY children (I don't think ANY birth control method he used or reccomended worked) and one in fiction is known as Ramsies the DEAD. Oh yeah. People use them to PREVENT that sort of thing. GREAT PR, people.
WHY Reality? The last thing people want IS the reality of the '9 month illness'. Thats why they bought the thing in the first place! Plus, with the movie 'Reality Bites', that COULDN'T have been good for thier PR.
WHY Lifestyles?... Ok, I really don't have a problem with this name... <thinking of somthing>... OK! Hows this: People buy these BEACUSE of thier Lifestyle to PREVENT a BIG change in thier lifestyle. (Ya know... 5lbs 7oz)
WHY Golden Coins? Oh yeah. Make a woman feel special. "Here's some gold!" Make her feel like a REAL high class prostitute. BUY HER WITH GOLD!
WHY Trojan? The LAST thing someone who gets one wants is a (bad) surprise inside!
(Holding a little white stick "Honey, I have something to tell you...")
<AND NO! THAT IS *NOT* THE CASE WITH LM!>
Why is it that EVERY SINGLE time either of us mentions the word "pregnant" or that she is LIKE a mother to her sister every one asks if Lady Mystic is pregnant?
Hopeful? Does everyone want to throw baby showers or somthing?
OR does it have to do with the fact that LM and I are so close?
OH! One of my managers came to me to find out how our relationship lasted so long! (His of a year and a half just ended)
SUBMIT button: Is it that beacuse we live in a dominering society where everyone feels that they must have power over someone or be powered by someone?
To some, submit may seem like they are ORDERING someone to submit.
To others, they may seem like they are BEING ORDERED to do somthing.
<>END BIOHAZARD WARNING!<>
Ok... Lets see... WARNINGS... Not getting TOO explicit...
I hope I have my bases covered so I don't get bothered by the CR Lawyer.
Fire Storm the Demented Warrior
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 01:30:22 AM
IP: dhcp155.visitus.net
LM and I were browsing the first week of the CR and noticed a few things:
1.) A HELLUVA lot of people that never came back on.
2.) Jackal DEFINATELY seemed a little more... how shall I put it... SANE.
(Read some of his posts then and now. They were actually well formed sentences back then, and less like rants as they are, or were at least, now. Sorry if I offended you, Jackal.)
3.) Doug's writing style in the CR has definately changed.
4.) I was number 6! <TOP TEN! Now and forever>
Hmm... "Now and Forever..."
When I look at that phrase and remember Goliath saying that to Demona, I wonder if he said the same thing to Elisa, or will he say somthing different. I know that she may not be his "Angel of the Night", but what term of affection does he say to Elisa?
And I still think that Elisa and Dracon knew each other for a good many years before Gargoyles. Possibly in high school? Dated? <G> PROM! <VEG> Or... ENGAGED! (THAT would explain her bitterness towards him! He left her at the altar!... or maybe not.) j/k... kinda anyway.
Dracon always calls Elisa 'Sugar', right?
So does he call his bed "Coffee"?
(He always wants some sugar in his coffee! <G>)
Fire Storm (WIth Lady Mystic at my side) - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:58:32 AM
IP: dhcp155.visitus.net
OK, except for linking it to the rest of the site, the TGS comment room archive is complete.
Enjoy the memories!
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:56:42 AM
IP: pool0005-max3.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net
Interesting tidbit- Disney has recalled all the video releases of the Rescuers, something like 4 million of 'em, because somehow, for about 2 frames, a topless woman was in it. Can't confirm this personally, but thought it was interesting all the same.
Durid- Happy B-Day!
Jordan retiring- Gee, that was like the ONLY thing in the sports pages today... Go figure... Our paper was blatant about saying San Antonio Spur Tim Duncan will be the next Jordan, because he's got the talent, and he's not bragging, he's just playing his best...
CR archives- Fun stuff. Gonna keep me busy trying to read it all too. Oii...
Titanic- I really did not like that movie. It was nice at first, but then it took DiCaprio like 40 minutes to die, and another half hour freeze to death. It dragged on after the first half. What frightens me is they had planned to release a 5 hour director's cut for Christmas. **shudder**
Wilek- Hope you fix your computer problems.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:15:21 AM
IP: spider-we043.proxy.aol.com
Jewel: So I guess that Killer Croc was right about Batman being a robot, eh? :)
Doug: Broken Arrow was definately saved by Travolta's line... that and the fact that I am TOTALLY obsessed with Nuclear weapons. (If only I can find that tape of de-classified nuclear tests on DVD...)
Argent: ONLY 4 MONTHS, 9 DAYS UNTIL THE NEW STAR WARS COMES OUT?!??!?!?!
(i had better ask for the day off SOON!)
Sevaruis: I have a better Buffy spin off: The alternate reality with BAD vampire Willow!
(I thought she was at her cuteist in the Torkelsons, but in THAT episode... DAMN!)
a quote I almost forgot:
"All my life, I have been looking for god.
Here I was all the time."
-SG1
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:11:10 AM
IP: dhcp155.visitus.net
Wilek: Yes, I've uploaded several .html files to GFW since it came back. I used Netscape Composer to make them, and my browser is Netscape 4.5. If you're having problems getting into the authoradmin page, I suggest you ask Chris or Merlin Missy or someone else who maintains it for help. I'm not sure what could be going on.
$ Most of Orion's, Lathrop's, Galante's, and the Masked Lich's spells come straight from the AD&D Player's Handbook, although some have minor modifications. A few other of their spells I get from gamebooks like the AD&D Tome of Magic, Gurps Spell Compendium, and Knights of the Dinner Table (the latter gave me the extremely explosive fireballs Lathrop's so fond of tossing around sometimes). I've never heard of this Farore. $
Oh, btw, I see a post by Anonymous that says "testing." If that's your post, whatever you did worked out just fine. I also see your last two comments. Hope you get this problem puzzled out soon, I would hate to see it continue.
Later,
Doug
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:40:11 PM
IP: hil-qbu-ptq-vty72.as.wcom.net
<sigh> Looks like I didn't quite fix it. :/
Wilek
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:25:10 PM
IP: 206.230.102.33
**NO RP 2NITE.**
This is because, for the second night in a row, my computer's been having CR refresh problems. I just made a post which consisted entirely of the word "testing" and it still hasn't shown up on my screen no matter what I do. I hit F5, I hit the Refresh button, I go to other sites and come back, nothing. YEESH. (messes with MSIE's menus for a bit) Hm...I think I fixed it...<crosses talons>
Quotes>
"What is this fascination you people have with Shakespeare? The old sot is dead and buried! Get over it! Move on!"
~Q
"Trespassers will be experimented upon."
~Don't know
Todd> Ach, lay off him; we can't all be English majors. :) (BTW, I am a horrible typist. If I didn't actively proofread each post as I typed it, it would be completely unreadable. Even then, errors get through sometimes.)
Kitainia> What Mandi said. Except, instead of e-mail bombing this puke chunk, car-bomb him. As for your web-page...man, I wish it had gone up; sorry you had to scrap it (although I understand your reasons). But my page is little more than an archive for my fics and no one seems to mind. :)
Speaking of my site, those who have read my third story might want to re-read it; I've made a very slight change toward the end. You'll know it when you see it. Or hear it. :)
FS and LM> If I haven't said it already, congratulations on the engagement!
Steve Gooch> Congratulations on the promotion to Eagle Scout!
Doug> $Word of recall? Sounds an awful lot like the Farore's Wind spell. Is that what inspired it?$ BTW, have you uploaded any HTML files to the GFW since it returned? If so, what browser do you have? I have MSIE 4.72.3110 and Netscape Communicator 4.06, and neither will even let me into AuthAdmin.
JEB> If you need help figuring out how to make Shadow and Gargs crossover-compatible, ask the guy who crossed Gargs with Mega Man. ;)
SJ> <<If something is beloved by everyone, that makes me want to hate that thing.>> Sometimes I'm like that. I despise Titanic.
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:24:26 PM
IP: 206.230.102.33
**RP STUFF**
It is the morning after Doug's last RP, everyone is well-rested. Doug has already bid farewell to Galen and his other Santa Fe friends, who have too much to do at home to join in the action. Now he and those going to Colorado Springs with him are saying goodbye to the other Ravens. "Kick some ass for me, guys!" Kitainia waves to them as they drive off in the Onslaught. She blows Doug a kiss, he leans out of the cab (Doug's driving) and catches it. Kitainia then gets behind the wheel of Jammer's station wagon (Jammer himself is beside her) and turns to face the CR.
**PAUSE RP**
Durid: Oh, it was your birthday? Sorry I didn't say anything. Happy Belated Birthday, my friend. And your spelling also doesn't bother me.
Firestorm: I agree. That story had very good Christine-ish sex. Birdie's not the only girl out there who would have made a fine wench. <grin>
**BUFFY SPOILER WARNINGS**
Buffy had a real good episode tonight. I liked all the allegories it had to censorship, parent-child relationships, fairy tales, and the Salem witch trials. There was also a classic Giles-Cordelia exchange.
<Cordelia slaps Giles awake, he'd been knocked unconscious by the demon-charmed parents>
Giles: We must hurry! We have to rescue Buffy and all the city's parents from Hansel and Gretel! (who the demon was impersonating)
Cordelia: Okay, let's get one thing straight. The brain damage happened before I hit you!
Laugh riot. Someone has to write a Gargs/Buffy crossover. :)
About an Angel spinoff, they can do one if they like, I'm sure they'd please a lot of fans, especially the ones like Doug's sister who are madly in love with David Boreanz. It would kinda attract the Forever Knight crowd, too. Maybe. As for Spike and Dru, well, if we don't see them in Buffy again any time soon, they will be seen in an upcoming fic of Doug's. This one is tentatively titled "Slayer Senshi," and yes, it will be a Buffy crossover. Doug told me to leak this info, I don't know if he's gonna let any more about the story slip. :)
**SPOILERS END**
Mandi: Thanks for your advice. Like Doug said, Stephanie did try to mailbomb that guy. But in the end she had to abandon her revenge. We did find out who he was, though. Some guy named Jack Jameson, aka WebHunter99. He will die in the RP sooner or later, if Stephanie keeps pressuring me about it.
I too hold to the theory that Brooklyn is choosing to withhold information about the things he saw in the past and future by saying he doesn't remember them. Same deal for Sata and the twins. They sure must have seen some bad stuff to be doing this. Hope they saw good stuff too. Come on and let us know by bringing back Timedancer!
Shadow/Gargs Crossover? Might be interesting to see. Wonder if Lamont Cranston (The Shadow's real name) would be the only Shadow character appearing in it or not.
DumlaoX: Thanks for putting up the CR archive. I liked seeing all the old memories come back as I flipped through it all. Hope you have enough webspace to store everything, I know how big these CRs can get. :)
Coyote: I too wonder what Gooch's service project was. Mine was leading my troop in cleaning up piles and piles of litter on and around Lake Houston. Most of it was thrown by drunk campers and tourists, as evidenced by the great amount of empty beer cans and bottles we found. I wanted to murder everyone who ever littered in history by the time we got it all cleaned up. And it was practically trashed just as bad again within a month. Grrrr. Oh well, at least I got my merit badge.
SJ: I agree with you about righting wrongs, I'm all for it. But I do think we should not devote all our time to finding out what people have done wrong in the past, yelling about it and how bad it makes the person, going on and on about how they should be punished, and then punishing them. There's a lot more important stuff for the people in Washington to do than that. Hope they quit soon and get back to running the country. There, that's all I'm saying tonight about politics.
Thanks for your good comments about our lives, I'm glad you find us so interesting. Thanks also for the Napoleon idea. Doug and I have got to try that sometime. <snicker> $ BTW, what has happened to your clone in the RP? Hope you come out of it okay, whatever it is. $
Alec Baldwin: I like him, too. Definitely my favorite of the four Baldwin brothers. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think there are four of them.) Can't count the number of pretty mediocre movies he's spiced up with good lines and character preformances, in my opinion. Mercury Rising, the Shadow, Malice, and a few more I can't think of right now were among the titles. His wife's a pretty good actress too, I loved her in LA Confidential. (What Alec said about that movie at the Oscars made me ROFLMAO.)
Okay, that's all for tonight. Talk to you later, everyone!
**RP AGAIN**
Kitainia puts the keys in the car's ignition and turns to Jammer. "Okay, the first thing we'll need to answer Marsh's suit is our own lawyer." "I can't do it," Jammer sighs. "I haven't even finished my first year of law school and this is not a John Grisham novel." "Right," Kitainia nods. "Looks like we'll have to go with the only other lawyer I know. Hope he'll take the case. Elena, open us up a portal." "Destination?" Elena asks. "Wait, Kit!" Jammer shouts. "Please tell me you're not going to try and hire..." "The TGS Comment Room," Kitainia answers Elena's question. Jammer gets a worried look on his face as the portal is opened and they drive through. The screen fades out, to be continued next time.
**THIS BIT OF RP OVER**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:23:29 PM
IP: hil-qbu-ptq-vty72.as.wcom.net
testing
Anonymous
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 10:41:54 PM
IP: 206.230.102.33
****RP at the end this time****
SPOILERS: TONIGHT'S BUFFY EPISODE
Good one tonight! While not the best episode I've ever seen, it was fun after a couple of reruns in the last few weeks. For a minute there, I thought we were seeing Willow as an evil witch....while Evil Witch Willow isn't near as enticing as Vampire Willow, it's still a nice thought!
I've heard that they're supposed to be spinoff Angel show coming next fall......You want my official statement on that? *ahem* UGH. Angel? Make the show about Spike and Dru! THEY'RE the vamps we know and love!!
END BUFFY SPOILERS
Basketball news: Well, it looks as if Michael Jordan is retiring. Again. Let me purge something from my system:
GOOD. I'm glad he's retiring. I'm sick of him anyway.
I must admit, before the flames may come, that in many things, I'm counter culture. If something is beloved by everyone, that makes me want to hate that thing. I hate the movie "Titanic" (and conversely, Leo DiCaprio. And James Cameron). I wasn't too fond of "Seinfeld." And even though I like pro basketball, I've never liked the Bulls. Or Michael Jordan. So I'm glad he's retiring. Maybe someone else can hold a title other than Chicago. Maybe someone else will get payed 30+ million a year. Good riddance.
I hope nobody is too offended. Geez, Deuce will probably tell me I remind him of that guy he'd like to kill again....
Politics: If I haven't offended you so far, let me try another way! I've made an observation after last night....I'm all for righting wrongs. And I think that hypocrisy is a horrible thing, and should be shown for what it is. But frankly, who is Larry Flynt to preach about morality? If the Democrats wanna bust chops on the Republicans, that's their business, but couldn't you get somebody else besides the "King of Porn?"
Doug and Kitiana: Regardless of what you say, I still think you two are pretty darn interesting people in your own right. I'd have loved to see any website you guys might have put up.
And believe me, I know all about how a little fantasy mixed in with the everyday can help you keep your sanity. I believe it was Pushkin (sp? accuracy?) who said: "Better the illusions that exalt us than 10,000 truths." Hey, when the real world gets too boring, do what I do! Stuff live eels down your pants and run down the street pretending your Napoleon. Great fun, and you'd be surprised what people will pay you to leave them alone.
Kingdom Come: It may be my favorite DC comics miniseries of all time. Great story, beautiful art, plus one really f-ed up future. Although, I don't think it's quite fair to compare it to Batman Beyond--KC, at least to me, seems a bit darker.
Plus, Kingdom Come gives us the best villain I've seen in a long time: GOG. The dude can kill Superman and not break a sweat.
Spelling: Huhked on foniks wurked fer mme.
Hey Todd, ease up a little. We all have days when are fingers (or various other body parts) don't wanna work. Plus next time Durid may throw a dictionary at ya.
Alec Baldwin: Did somebody mention Alec Baldwin??? He has perhaps the greatest line in all of film:
"You ask me if I have a God complex? I AM GOD."
***BEGIN RP******
While the original Sevarius Jr. fights for his life hundreds (thousands? space travel makes my head hurt) of lightyears away, the body of SJ 2, now covered from head to toe with diseased patches of skin, grey, almost translucent skin, and visible blue veins, continues to shake, crouched in a corner, for a few moments, before finally going still.
Very still. Not moving still. Not BREATHING still. Until finally, after a few moments, the eyes (once an emerald green, now a disturbing bright blue with thin, pinpoint pupils) slowly regain their focus. SJ 2 blinks a few times, and slowly gets to his feet. His mouth distorts into a twisted grin, his teeth--which look much sharper--showing.
"Ahhhh.....I feel SO much better," he growls.
****PAUSE RP--TO BE CONTINUED!*****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 10:41:21 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.webcache.erols.net
***RP entrance*** The winds rise, ths snow rises up in a swirling collum of snow, then disperses revealing a shivering Durid who starts curseing something about Minnesota winters ***end rp***
Steve Gooch: Saving for the weekend, on a day I don't have to work in the morning. And congrats on your Eagle scout! I only got mid-way through Boy scouts myself.
Kitainia: No not everyone, I don't even have a girlfriend :(
Todd Jenson: Ah! There you are, I was wondering where you went! I haven't heard any of your critismis of my spelling in ages! Welcome back! And at least in that last post I can attrubuiate to typos. Though I am betting that you are going to get me for critismis and attrubiates :)
JEB: A Shadow and Gargoyles Crossover? Hmmm, it would be interesting to see how the Shadow (forgot his real name) deals with both Xanatos and Demona. Heheh, Demona's past can rival his own dark past!
And thank you everyone who wished me Happy B-day! Now it's off to DL Christine's story!
***RP exit*** The winds rise, a collum of snow starts to surround Durid who yells, "Now hold it right there! I am not going to freeze my tootsies off!" the winds whipmer a bit, Durid scowls a little mroe and then softens, "Oh all right, I will just have to do this." And with that he mutters something and suddenly his entire body is an entinity of living flame! "Ok, now you can do it!" The winds roar, a cullum of snow rises and conceals Durid from view, and when they disperse, Durid is gone ***end rp exit**
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 09:37:12 PM
IP: dial-207-225-154-132.mpls.uswest.net
**RP!!**
**The screen lights up to reveal ... Coyote's party, along with Ravyn, still speaking with Doug.**
<"You're sure, now?">
Positive. Jimmie has a lead on where Preston might be ... and so long as that man is free, no one is safe from humiliation. I have to find him, no matter what.
<"Whatever you say. Just make sure you don't let slip our plan to anyone who might take it back to Thailog.">
**Coyote nods** Good luck and good journey, my friend.
**PAUSE RP!!**
Durid: Happy b-day, and welcome to the world of the legal!!
Steve Gooch: I appreciate this one completely ... as when I hit 18 I was three required merti badges away from Eagle. Congratulations on your accomplishment, I'm sure it was well deserved. Just out of curiosity ... what did you do as your service project? (I managed to complete mine ... my troop built a bridge on a hiking trail.)
Wilek: it's the modern day Brook and Sata. And I would say you got your license at a completely different DNR than I got mine at. :)
Fire Storm: I got *myself* hooked on that movie ... sometimes I wonder how a remake would look, especially with the modern technologies available now. Talk about coolness ... *drool*
DumlaoX: I am prepared to be completely embarrassed by my earlier posts (most of which, if I recall right, were pretty much shameless plugging). Post away!
**RESUME RP!!**
**Doug walks away from the group.**
<"We're going to check the tank over, to make sure that crevasse didn't cause any permanent damage.">
Good, good. I want to be on the road by this evening. **turns to Ravyn** We can stop on the way to drop you off, if you want.
**Ravyn laughs.** <"Are you kidding?">
**Coyote smiles as the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 08:55:13 PM
IP: modem58.i-is.com
(Argent walks in, Jewel*D perched on shoulder. Jewel*D's eyes suddenly turn white and she starts to chitter nervously.)
Huh. Wonder what's gotten into her.
JEWEL: As you've probably noticed, my Draco is now Jewel*D. That okay?
DURID: Feliz Cumpleanos! (Happy B-day in Spanish)
Anyone else seen the pictures of the new Star Wars movie in Life magazine yet? Dang, I cannot WAIT!!!!!!!!!
More Movie Quotes:
"I am surrounded by idiots."
-Scar, 'Lion King'
"1500 years ago, people KNEW the Earth was the center of the universe.
500 years ago, people KNEW the Earth was flat.
15 minutes ago, you KNEW we were alone on this planet.
Imagine what you'll know
tomorrow."
- Agent K, (MiB)
***SPOILERSPOILERSPOILER***
Finally, Goliath and Elisa get some time off! (I'm happy now.) Sweet pic at the end, and it was nice to see Lex, Liz, Matt, and Sara get some time in there, too.
Booklyn being out of character: Man, whatever Loki dragged him through on that Time Dance must have been pretty grim for Brooklyn to lose his head like that.
All in all, great ep!
***ALL CLEAR***
Creativity Demon: Who is the Master trickster, Puck or Loki?
(Argent's about to say more, but Jewel*D can't take it any longer and bolts out of the room.)
Hey!... Gotta Jet, I have a Draco to catch!
(Eight months 'till new Dark Ages eps!)
(4 months, 9 days 'till 'Phantom Menace' comes out!)
Argent
Ohio, USA
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 07:25:12 PM
IP: dyn-236.belpre.frognet.net
OK, did one major improvement on the site since 1999 started.
The TGS Comment Room Archive
Everything since the beginning of the comment room will be here. Right now I only have the very first one posted but by tonight I hope to have every single one online for your perusal. Hit my name to see it. By tomorrow or Thursday I will place links to the archive on every page in the site.
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 07:20:49 PM
IP: clsb-mac-13.clicc.ucla.edu
Durid> Happy 21rst Brithday.
Liked the new TGS Gargoyles episode.
Lawrence Stone - [st1@bright.net]
Chillicothe, Ohio, u.s.a.
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 07:11:37 PM
IP: chil-ras1-3-cs-14.dial.bright.net
FIRE STORM-- Thanx again for the archives. Hopefully it will solve all my problems.
DURID-- Happy b-day! Make it a good one.
Y'know, for this whole quarter, I have 5 hrs, 40 mins to kill between classes. I wouldv'e seen a movie but I just didn't feel like it. Ah well, with a little over 2 hrs to kill, might as well do something productive for the site.
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 06:34:12 PM
IP: clsb-mac-13.clicc.ucla.edu
JEB - True, but shouldn't there also be some consideration for the people who will be reading the posts and who might have difficulty deciphering poor spelling?
A BIT MORE ABOUT BATMAN BEYOND - I found an article on it today in the latest issue of "Starlog" at the local newsagent's. According to it, not only are Bruce Wayne and Barbara Gordon still around, but it said that it's also possible that Catwoman is also still around, though now retired from crime (and dealt with the possibility that we'd see an old lady taking her cats for a walk at some point). It also hinted that Mr. Freeze could still be alive, as somebody postulated, thanks to his cold-induced immortality. (In fact, I should have considered that possibility, since I recently saw one of the original "Batman:TAS" episodes involving him, where it dealt with his being immortal. The villain who was employing Freeze wanted to become immortal the same way that he had, and Freeze was astonished at this, wondering aloud why the man would want to put himself in a similar position of being forever cold, never again able to enjoy a warm summer's day, forever isolated from all humanity; I thought that was a particularly effective scene. I wonder if Demona and Macbeth ever sometimes feel similarly a bit astonished at Xanatos's desire for immortality, having discovered themselves certain disadvantages of it). The article also indicated that Bruce and Barbara aren't exactly on speaking terms at the moment.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 06:29:28 PM
IP: 209.223.93.152
**SHORT RP**
The screen comes on, still showing the Ravens dodging the shots of Galante's bodyguards and trying to shoot back. So far they've only taken out two, since the guys are wearing Kevlar. The rest of the group is still paralyzed, and Galante is still watching the battle and smiling, as his bodyguards seem to have the upper hand. That's until Mist (who was not paralyzed because hold person spells don't work on cats) assumes her feline humanoid form, draws her chaingun, and cuts down all the remainiang bodyguards in a quick stream of Teflon-coated rounds. "Meow!" she hisses, turning to face Galante. The other non-paralyzed Ravens do likewise, pointing their weapons at him. "A wise man knows when it's time to flee," Galante shrugs. "Ave Maria!" Then he disappears in a flash of light. Doug looks at Orion. "What'd he do?" "Word of recall," the cleric answers. "It teleports the caster to whatever secret hideaway he has. I guess the Bishop has escaped us this time." "Look on the bright side," grins Jammer. "At least we recovered most of his wealth." "Yes, you did," smiles Coyote. "Now mind doing something to unaparalyze us?" Doug waves at Elena to dispel Galante's hold person spell and then turns to face the CR.
**PAUSE RP**
Firestorm: I agree that John Travolta's line about thermonuclear weapons in Broken Arrow was great. His preformance was the only thing that made that movie enjoyable. Other than that, it was just another stereotypical action flick. <yawns>
**MINOR SPOILERS FOR CHRISTINE'S FIC**
Christine: Liked your latest story. Birdie and Macbeth had some great scenes together, and all the pirate stuff was nicely written, too. Like I said in the e-mail, keep up the good work!
**SPOILERS END**
SJ: Like Kitainia said, our lives are really pretty normal. It's just our attitude about living them that makes all the difference.
Aerie: Yep. I'm glad too. BTW, in case you're curious or any other of my fans are, I have nine more scenes to go in "Inheritance" and it should be out by late next week. Hope I actually get more feedback on this one than just a star rating.
Durid: Your spelling doesn't bother me. But then, I have a huge vocabulary and the mind of a writer, plus I used to be that bad a speller myself, so I can always determine from the context what the correct spelling for your words are. And still understand what you're saying. But I guess there are some people in here who can't do that, so I'd get a spell checker for your CR posts.
Website: Glad everyone understands our reasons for abandoning the project. I don't think I'm even going to keep it as a file directory, I'll just let Geocities free up the space. I don't really have the time to maintain it now, what with my job, school starting next week, my fanfic writing, and everything else going on in my life. Or the desire to do it, for the reasons stated already. Same goes for Kitainia (though she isn't writing fanfic). But my stories can still be seen at the GFW archive, and I'll find some other place for them if it goes down again. As for the fanart, well, I think since you can upload .html files to GFW, and those files can include pictures, I can now put the pics into the stories once they're done. (I've already got several commissioned.) I should be able to do that, hope there's nothing blocking me from the possibility. I'll ask Chris by e-mail once he responds to my last query (how one can link to a specific author's page in the archive using its new code parameters).
Eagle Scout: I'm not one of those, though I do know a lot of hunting and survival skills. I could probably manage just as well as one in most situations, I was just never in the Boy Scouts or anything like it, so I won't get any badge of recognition. I learned my survival skills from family and friends, especially Mr. Lathrop and the others at the Waldorf school.
Mandi: Believe me, Stephanie wanted that loser mail-bombed. Big time. She was pressuring Gubio to do it for a week (he's the only one of us who would know how). But his scruples made him refuse, and thus Stephanie had to take matters into her own hands. She sent the guy a long rant telling him exactly why she would not do what he wanted. His response consisted of two words- "Ah, fiesty!" That guy must watch Daria too much or something. Anyway it of course didn't get him to stop doing it, so Steph had to take down her profile and change e-mail addresses. The problem has been solved now, though we may bring the guy into the RP later to kill him off in some despicable way. :)
Ed: $ Sorry the RP was so long last time, there was a lot we wanted to say and do. Kitainia and I understand your feelings about it and promise to try not to make it so long again. Or we'll at least break it up next time, so it's not all one big paragraph. Hope you accept the apology. $
JEB: I don't know if the crossover you propose would work. It might, though. I would certainly like to see it. The Shadow was a good movie, especially with Alec Baldwin (who I think is a really good actor).
Okay, later. That's all I have to say for now.
**BACK TO RP ACTION**
Elena casts her dispelling, and everyone can move again. "Okay Doug," Keith asks. "What's our next move?" "I think we need to get to Colorado Springs and save Boris's family," Doug says. "If Bucharev wasn't lying about them being there. But we also need a diversion, something Boris can tell Thailog we're doing while we're really searching for his family that won't seem like a baldfaced lie." "I got it!" says Gubio. "The lawyers. We hire an attorney, take the suit to court, and try to get Marsh off our backs. Thailog will think his plan to delay us is working, while meanwhile we're really working to shut Bucharev down." "Sounds good," says Doug. "But that means we'll have to divide our forces. I have some contacts in Colorado Springs that might be able to help us find Boris's family. Lathrop, Stephanie, Mist, Keith, Shauna, and Shap will go there with me and take care of things." "What about me?" Boris asks. "I want to meet my family." "You will, Boris. But if Bucharev's goons recognize you, their lives may be forfeit. Kitainia, you take him and everyone else, find us a lawyer and start working on this case. We should be able to distract Thailog with it. Coyote, if you and your bunch want to do something else while we're handling this mess, you're welcome. Same goes for Ravyn, Jaden, and Frodo. Just remember, don't let Thailog know about our subterfuge. Okay, everyone?" The team nods in agreement and starts walking back to the truck. "Okay," Doug says. "Let's all go get some sleep. We can leave Santa Fe and start work on this plan in the morning." The screen fades out, to be continued.
**RP OVER**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 06:21:40 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zoy-vty129.as.wcom.net
Guten abend. :)
Aerie> Glad ya liked the MiB quotes- liked your quotes as well. :)
Happy Birthday, Durid! :)
Todd> Eh, leave him alone about his grammar. It's every American's right to spell the way they want to. ;)
Mary Flanders> Hm. That might be possible. Guess we'll see in year two, eh? :)
Vanessa> Welcome to the Comment Room. :)
Steve Gooch> Congratulations on becoming an Eagle Scout! :) (Only got up to Webelos myself. <:) And, I'll bite- why don't you play paintball on the 8th of the month anymore?
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic> Congratulations on your engagement! :) I hope you two have a long and happy marriage. :)
Kitania and Doug> Sorry to hear about the nixing of your website plans. But I quite understand your reasons.
One-Eyed Squid> You did? Hm. I certainly wasn't expecting it.
Jewel> Kingdom Come? That was a GREAT graphic novel series. I really oughtta buy a copy sometime...
Has anyone here seen "The Shadow"? Would that or would that not be a perfect thing to cross over with Gargoyles? :)
And that's all, folks.
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 05:31:36 PM
IP: 212-4-222.ipt.aol.com
***NOCTURNE SPOILERS INCLUDED***
Development on old characters, some hints at new plots and amusing scenes with everyone’s favourite Manhattan-based trickster’s evil counterpart. Aside from all that, three varied dates and a new artifact… well that all sounds rather nice doesn’t it? And it is… up to a point. The first thing that rang the alarm bells was the ‘Madoc sends minion to Manhattan’ bit. Also, the inclusion of the were-cheetahs didn’t appeal to me, because neither those characters nor Sekhmet did, especially. And I felt that the four sections hung together by the barest threads. You could have cut this episode apart, stuck it in different episodes, and very little would need to be changed. That’s not a crime really, but I do feel that it seemed disjointed.
Still the reintroduction to TGS of Sara, Liz, Loki, Matt is very welcome, and it’s great to see Elisa and Goliath in non-supplementary roles. A few things annoy me, so I can’t really say I’m over the moon with it, but it’s got some nice touches.
Todd: The ring was actually a curious little addition, so don’t worry about anything there! :) “Tolkien's rather indignant response to that was that the only similarity between the two rings was that they were round”? *laughs* Seems bluntness and humour go hand in hand ;)
Durid: Interesting point on Loki/Sekhmet rivalry, although this was also the case with Sekhmet and Garlon. I get the feeling that Sekhmet gets on everyone’s nerves, from what I’ve seen of her arrogant approach.
***END OF SPOILERS***
Spike: That’s a bit of a disappointing teaser from such a seasoned teaser veteran as yourself. ;)
Doug: Um, could you keep down future RP additions to your post? The standard sort of addition doesn’t bother me, but in the last RP post you had almost a screen’s worth on either side!
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 03:06:01 PM
IP: 194.168.238.17
Batman Beyond: I agree that I was surprised that Bruce left the city unprotected when he quit. But then, I had images of the DC mini-series "Kingdom Come" in my head as a comparision before hand. If y'all haven't read it, Bruce Wayne, after retiring, built robot batman units that he controlled from the Batcave, which patroled Gotham.
Jewel - [jfaulkne@brynmawr.edu]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 02:40:54 PM
IP: 168.28.82.186
Greetings
***Spoilers***
I'm not really the romance type so this ep wasn't exactly to my speed. Elisa kept waiting for something to happen to them. She wasn't the only one. I also found the stuf with Lex and Liz a dit of drag as well. The Mat and Sara stuff was better because of the Hacker observation thred. I loved seeing Loki in action. Aside from that though, not really my thing. Don't worry about it though. You can't please everybody all the time. If you do, some one's lyeing to you.
***End Spoilers***
Batman Beyond: I actually found the villian's transformation a little cleshaied.
That'sa all for now - TheOneEyedSquid
TheOneEyedSquid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:48:11 AM
IP: 166.109.180.23
**Mandi appears out of thin air**
On my comment about Brooklyn vs. Loki> I said "apparent" memory loss. I too agree with the theory that Brooklyn remembers a lot more than he lets on, although I think there should have been some in Ariana and Graeme's case - e.g. if not, can you imagine an earlier Season 1 scene with Fox worrying about her father and Graeme blurting out something to the effect that he's going to die soon anyway? Maybe not to that extent, but I wouldn't put it past either of the twins not to blurt out future knowledge at the wrong time. Whatever. I don't know what I'm saying this morning.
Kitania> Okay, this was buried in your explanation about the website, but this guy did WHAT to your sister? Grrr...If I was her, I'd have mailbombed the loser (assuming that I had any clue how to). Note on Geocities: if you want to keep it as a file directory, do some uploads from time to time to let Geocities know you're still there. Otherwise, they may delete your directory and give the space to someone else. That's what happened to the high school web page I started up (it's now on the public school web server). My late friend Kim Servedio has a page on Geocities, and the reason it's still up is that when Geocities tried to scrap it, they got about sixty e-mails (including one from her folks) screaming at them. Not to mention that her friends have links to her page in order for it to continue to have traffic.
Vanessa> **waves** Welcome to the weirdness! Enjoy it!
**Mandi shoots a look at the CR shrink's couch** I don't think so, buddy. Someone should get Pip Pumphandle to talk him to death so he'll run out of here screaming.
And while we're on Spike and quotes...
"I'm really glad I came here, you know? I've been all wrongheaded about this. Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else. I want Dru back, I've just gotta be the man I was, the man she loved. I'm gonna do what I shoulda done
in the first place: I'll find her, wherever she is, tie her up, torture her until she likes me again. Love's a funny thing."
--Spike, BtVS, "Lover's Walk"
It's Tuesday. I'm rarely sane on Tuesday. :)
**Mandi walks out, muttering, "Oh, yeah, I've got to tape Buffy tonight..."**
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 08:56:35 AM
IP: 131.92.166.193
DURID - For heaven's sakes, do something about your spelling, or proofread your posts before submitting them, or something like that! Your last post had so many mispellings in it (even "Gramere" for "Graeme") that it was almost imcomprehensible. Just be thankful that I'm not your English teacher, or you'd be getting some very low grades indeed.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 08:03:27 AM
IP: pn2-ppp-79.primary.net
Robby> I knew that; I was kidding. :)
One more favorite quote:
"The itsy bitsy spiders came up the toilet drain,
We thought we flushed it good but up they came again.
And the poisonous little buggers bit us on the butt."
~Henry Stauf
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 03:04:35 AM
IP: 206.230.102.33
Durid- Happy 21rst!
Steve- Congrats on being an Eagle Scout.
Is everyone getting engaged in here? Certainley not. I'm still only dating, and will continue to only be dating for the next several years at least.
Wilek- When I said cat lady, I was refferring to
Sekhmet... **Laughs a bit as well**
As far as Vinnie's gun, I also figured it was named after Mr. Kotter, but since he calls it "Mr. C", he's actually saying "Mr. Carter" which is close. But hey, his last name is Gregarino, which IS a tribute to Vinnie Bobarino...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 01:33:23 AM
IP: spider-ta013.proxy.aol.com
Christine: Just read the Scottish Rogue... Damn near your best story. Great flashbacks (My FAVORITE part of Pendragon), very... "Christine-ish" sex (Not too graphic, not too tame, but JUST right)...
(And also a little plot thred that you just HAVE to pick up on... 1709, MacBeth, Demona... 'nuff said)
I guess every little girls dream DOES come true! ;)
Coyote: LM got me hooked on the movie.
<>The TGS episode SPOILERS!<>
: It wasn't too bad. I liked the fact that the writers actually gave the those two a date WITHOUT a major crime happening with them!
<>END SPOILER<>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 01:25:18 AM
IP: dhcp163.visitus.net
Quotes>
"I only have two questions: How much and give it to me."
~Homer Simpson
"Boy, I sure am tired of all these Star Wars..."
~Cut title line for some low-budget seventies movie according to the Upright Citizens Brigade
"Tuvok never getting home!"
~Little Donny
"...I've already gone madder'n a bastard on father's day."
~Spider Jerusalem, 'Transmetropolitan'
"If you can't something intelligent, stand close to me and don't shut up when other people are around."
~myself
Trent T. (no... people may firgure that out.) T. Townsend (ah... I'll just call myself God and get it over with.) - [trenttownsend@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:47:04 AM
IP: 147.226.113.249
What is it with my computer tonight? Is this a 3x post or a 2x? My system isn't reloading the CR correctly; this happened in the other one too. :/
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:17:56 AM
IP: 206.230.102.33
Theresa> Forgot to say this: I was kidding in my last post. :)
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:16:09 AM
IP: 206.230.102.33
**RP!**
[Ont the Wings of Anubis, SJ is apparently dying. Wilek: "Abort mission! We have to get SJ back to the Dark Star! Miriam, send a HoloNet command to the DS's computer; tell it to get to our top-secret staging area! Dark Mage, if you've somehow caused this, I will personally--" DMW: "Do you honestly think I would allow that blasted human-supremist Jerec to take over the planet?! You know what he'll do to every gargoyle on Earth if he comes into power! He's the entire reason I'm working with you people!"]
**PAUSE RP!**
Ah, we have a psychologist. Scratchy, the Warners are the poster children for normality compared to us. >:)
**TGS SPOILERS**
Robby> <<the cat lady>> Oh...I hadn't noticed Theresa was in this ep; I'll have to re-read it. :P <<avoiding legalities>> They didn't seem to care about legalities when they mentioned Quake in an earlier ep (very kewl reference BTW; I have that add-on and every time I use the hammer I feel *real* weird).
Mandi> <<despite the apparent memory loss he suffered of his travels>> I like to think he was lying about that, to preserve the timeline.
**END SPOILERS**
Ordell> <<that guy from The Hobbit>> That was in fact Gollum you were thinking of.
Coyote> <<And Brooklyn and Sata are still alive and well ... they're currently in New York, far from the slaughter of Ishimura.>> Um, the 'current' Brook & Sata or the timedancing ones? <<I've almost reached my license limit on carnage inflicted on canon characters in my fics.>> You think YOU have a case of writer's bloodlust? I once toyed with the idea of killing the entire Manhattan Clan, Labyrinth Clan, and David Xanatos. All in one explosion; namely the unexpected demolition of the Eyrie Building. During the *day*.
SJ> <<Hey, I didn't know you were a B5 fan!>> Yup. JMS is one of the best writers *ever*. I love how things that are said by characters during an episode never really become clear until years later.
Deuce> Heh, you don't have to write TGS to torture ppl. >:) I plan to...if I ever get "Destiny's Enforcer" started...
Robby again> You know, speaking of Vinnie, I originally thought that the pie gun was named "Mr. Kotter", in reference to the fact that Vinnie's voice is very much like someone's from "Welcome Back Kotter".
<<depend on momentary flashes of inspiration for fic quality, too?>> Heh, I often write the first half of a fic in one night, and the second half in another night a few months later. I've done that with all three of my stories so far.
Vanessa> Welcome to the CR! Don't count on Dr. Scratchansniff to help you keep your sanity. We plan to drive him a lot crazier than his patients. >:)
**RESUME RP!**
[The Dark Star fleet arrives at the ultra-secret staging area. Miriam: "The station will arrive in fifteen minutes." Wilek: "I hope it's in time..."]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:09:20 AM
IP: 206.230.102.33
**SOME RP ACTION**
(Rp note- Kyryn's last bit occurred before Coyote's did, so that we can shield her honor (i.e. give a reason why she wasn't there to help save the team from Galante's bodyguards).)
The screen lights up with the group outside the mansion. Galante steps out of the ranks of his 12 elite Spaarti Apostle clone bodyguards and smirks an evil grin. "Hello there sinners," he greets Coyote and the others. "Bishop Galante!" Shauna says in greeting, then points at the mansion. "Aren't you supposed to be in there, getting killed?" Galante laughs. "I was forewarned. I knew you all would be showing up. But don't worry, I will now speedily deal with all of you. Peter, Andrew, the rest of you, ready your weapons and aim." The emotionless bodyguards all draw long-barrelled rifles and do so. "As for your friends in the mansion," Galante goes on, "they will find a little surprise waiting for them. The place will explode in exactly five minutes. I'll lose much of my wealth, but since I'm going to be Pope and head of the world's only legal religion when Thailog takes over, I can afford it." "You bastard!" Coyote curses him out, reaching for his own gun. The Bishop makes a gesture and Coyote stops, he and everyone else find themselves virtually paralyzed. "You're using your clerical powers for evil!" Orion shouts. Galante shrugs. "Only from your misguided and heathen point of view. I'll let you watch the mansion blow up with your friends inside, and then I will kill you." Coyote and the others look at each other, wondering how they're gonna get out of this one.
The screen switches to the interior of the mansion, where Doug, Kitainia, Tricia, Boris, Jammer, and Elena are searching for the Bishop. So far they have found nothing, but Jammer is stuffing a big sack full of the Bishop's gold, jewels, and other treasures. "Look at all this great stuff!" he exclaims, his eyes widening as he takes a crown full of emeralds, rubies, and star sapphires. "Only religious jerks and guys like Bill Gates can be so wealthy!" "Put it back, Jim," Tricia advises. "We're not here to steal Galante's property." "Oh, come on, he's not going to have any more use for it. Besides, he's supposed to give his wealth to the poor. Like us." Doug sighs as Jammer picks up a silk cloth and stuffs it in the sack, then he gasps as a large and ticking time bomb is revealed beneath. "Get out of here!!" Doug shouts at everyone, seeing the bomb only has 2.3 minutes to detonation. Boris, Elena, Tricia, and Jammer run like hell, the last huffing under the weight of his treasure sack. Doug and Kitainia begin to do the same, Kitainia making a CR post as they flee.
**END RP TEMPORARILY**
Batman Beyond: Great show so far, it had a good starting episode. If it keeps up the good work, as I expect it to, it may become a classic.
TRC: Very good quotes from Dinobot. I shall remember them. Thanks for posting them in here. I saw the episode, but that was a long time ago.
**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR NOCTURNE**
Comments on the New Ep: Good job, TGS Staff. I liked this episode a lot, although the teaser did give me the wrong idea of what to expect from it. Good development on the relationships of Goliath and Elisa, Lex and Liz, and especially Matt and Sara. I was ROFLMAO at the way Matt reacted to going on a date. Particularly since he reminded me so much of a certain person I'm running beside right now, the first time we went out. <turns and smiles at Doug, who grins back at her> Surely good things are ahead for Sara and Matt, of that I am certain. :) I also liked the joke Goliath made, that has got to be a first for him. Surely good things are in the future for him and Elisa, too. Right?
I also liked the action in this story. Brooklyn and his family did a good job of showing Loki the Unseelie can't win them all. I look forward to seeing what happens the next time they meet, and all the times before in Timedancer (Come on, bring it back to us!). That's all I'll say about your latest great job.
Durid: If it's like Doug's fanfic universe, Brooklyn's laser gun has distilled iron essence in its beams. It's from the future after a really bad war in which iron saved the world from Madoc, so it might have that. If it does, I wonder why he didn't use it. You're right, Brooklyn was a little out of character in there. :(
**END SPOILERS FOR NOCTURNE**
Is everyone getting engaged in here? No. Doug and I aren't, we're waiting till after college to get legally serious as well as emotionally. Then we'll get engaged if we're still together (God forbid otherwise!). I guess you could call us "engaged to be engaged." Maybe that's close enough. Okay, next topic, before I start rambling again.
Spike: STOP TEASING US!!!! Or at least let Drusilla take over. <jk>
Yes, I know you are not THAT Spike.
Christine: Very good and funny new story. I liked all the plot, flashbacks, and character developments you did. For more detailed comments, check your e-mail.
Room Shrink: I'm not going near that guy. I know exactly what he'd say about me. (Being a shrink-in-training, one learns these things.) He'd say, "Obviously, fraulein, you are not quite all there, if you know what I mean. You are too given to flights of fancy, as if you live in another world where things are better than they are in real life and will always be so. You always act like you are in this world, except when you are forced to deal with reality. You are much too obsessed with yourself, figuring out other people's problems, and that thing that gives one no real satisfaction beyond a momentary emotional and physical release. You think you know everything, and if you don't, you can always find someone who will. Thus you put too much trust in others, who may always turn their backs on you when you least expect it. I think you have a bipolar mania disorder. On top of that, you obviously have a bad self-image, because you have willingly had yourself transformed into a fearsome winged beast!" About that time I would injure him in a very grisly manner for calling attention to all the things about myself only people like him and Doug's mom would consider problems. So to prevent that from happening, I will stay off Scratchy's couch. :)
Kyryn: We'll miss you in the RP, good luck on the TGS Staff.
SJ: Believe you me, our fantasy RP life is nothing like the reality. IRL, Doug and I are typical college students who suffer from bipolar mania disorders, and the occasional bout of disassociative behavior. Sure we always act happy and try to live through our lives following the advice of Rudyard Kipling's poem If, but you'd be surprised how boring that can be. In our real lives, there are no gargoyles; no evil corrupt bishops, lichs, and other baddies we beat up frequently; I don't even have wings. We just fantasize about these things, our real lives are pretty normal (if one can define that word), stereotypically. We have good things that happen to us, and problems too. Just like everyone does. But I think the reason people find our lives interesting, and in some cases envy us for them, is that we don't acknowledge our fantasies as valueless just because they aren't real. In our fantasy world, we have the kind of life we'd really like to have, and the happiness we experience there somehow leaks into our real lives, making the normal lives we have somehow seem better. Yes, I know, it sounds weird. But according to Erasmus, the secret to ultimate happiness is self-delusion. I guess Doug and I are living proof of that. But it doesn't matter if most of our happiness comes from experiences in fantasy worlds (whether those worlds be in books, TV, the Net, imagination, music, or whatnot), it's still happiness. And it's what keeps us sane, even if some would consider our behavior and feelings psychologically abnormal. Yes, I know, it's a paradox. But this one actually works.
Website Woes: Sorry to everyone who wanted to see it, but we can't go forward with the thing. The main reason Doug and I wanted to make one was because the fanfic archive went down for so long, and he was afraid his stories wouldn't be seen and read by anyone other than him, me, and the others here in Austin. Yes, there was e-mail, but you know how people want unsolicited feedback and comments on their work, too. Doug's a firm believer in that old maxim- "It's much better when others discover your good qualities without your help." Now that the archive is back up, he doesn't really need the website. And I wasn't really gonna do anything in there, just assemble the link collection. It was going to be basically an archive of his fanfic and a little fanart, and little more. We didn't know what else to put there. I know, we seem like some of the most imaginative and intelligent folks in the world sometimes, but in this case we got no brainstorms, no flashes of inspiration, nothing we could think of to make our website different from all the others out there, make it more than just a place to read stories by some egotistical author and see a few interesting pics. In other words, we couldn't find a theme for the website. This place's theme is TGS, Christine's webpage's theme is her family and their interests, Coyote's is a castle full of things interesting to him and others, and so on. But for us, it seemed like a website was just going to be a file directory. We couldn't think of anything else to make it that sounded right. So we scrapped the idea, and decided to just keep living without a website as we have up to now. Doug has kept the Geocities directory, though, and he may upload fanfics and fanart files into it, but there will be no big website devoted to our lives. We don't really know if we want our lives on the Internet anyway. It's okay to share them in here, but we don't want to be spammed by a thousand people who flame our page, or get obsessed with us like that one guy who flooded my sister's mailbox with cybersex demands when she put up her Yahoo profile. Our lives just seem healthier without encountering people like that. All we wanted a website for was a backup archive for Doug's fanfic, and when we decided to build one, we somehow got the idea it had to be more, and we knew we didn't want more. We wanted to keep our lives between us and our friends (that includes everyone in this CR, of course), not bare them for every Internet junkie who comes across our website to see. Plus we don't really have the time to put up any more than the fics and pictures, we both have very demanding social, personal, school, and work schedules (Doug has a job too now, he got it today, he's working at Bevo's Bookstore distributing textbooks and other goodies to the students of UT). So we don't know if we have the time, the desire, or even the need to make a website anymore. That's why we're currently abandoning the project. If we take it up again, and we don't know if we'll be doing that, the site will just be an archive of fanfic and fanart, no more. If that will satisfy all of you, great. If not, too bad. There, hope you can all now better understand our reasons for deciding to abandon the website project.
Vanessa: Welcome to the CR, newcomer. Remember to check your sanity at the door, and don't be surprised when they don't give it back to you on the way out. :)
Steve Gooch: Eagle Scout, huh? Congratulations! How old are you, by the way? I'm just curious because I made Falcon Scout (my Girl Scout troop's equivalent of Eagle) at age sixteen, and want to know if I can gloat. :) Glad to know Doug and I aren't this room's only big action fans who will admit they are such.
Okay, that's all for now. Later!
**RP AGAIN**
Kitainia, Doug, and the others make it out of the mansion just as it blows skyhigh. Galante sees the fireworks, widens his grin, and nods to the elite bodyguards. "As you can see, heathen imbeciles, your friends are dead. Now you shall join them. Please, give my regards to Satan and Lillith." "You can do so to the former, Galante!" Kitainia shouts, causing the Bishop and all his bodyguards to turn around and look at her in shock. "I don't think Adam's first wife is really in hell, or was as bad as people like you make her out to be for your own selfish reasons." Galante drops his jaw at her gall, then adopts an expression of quiet anger. "One does not insult the clergy and go to heaven!" he rants. "Send them to where they belong!" The bodyguards turn their guns toward Kitainia and the others who can still move, they began firing as the screen fades out. To be continued next time.
**RP OVER, KITAINIA OUT**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 11:28:08 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zon-vty117.as.wcom.net
***INCOMING SPOILERS! DUCK AND COVER!!***
Nocturne > nice work, guys. For a big action fan such as myself to thoroughly enjoy the personal elements of a story speaks volumes about the authors and quality of literature. I thought it was suitably ironic how the fact that nothing went wrong on Goliath & Elisa's date was exactly the thing that almost ruined it for her. In a similar situation, I probably would have acted the same way, superstitious as I am (ask me why I won't play paintball on the 8th of a month anymore).
I still can't help but think that the Unseelie's overconfidence will be their downfall, especially after this ep. Loki quips that he'll turn the kids into weasels if they don't stop pestering him - so why doesn't he? In the end it's they who screwed over his plans, and that wouldn've happened if he'd followed through on his threats. If they're holding back, it's because they don't really fear the clan and allies.
***SPOILERS OVER. RETURN TO DUTY.***
Durid > 21, eh? Happy B-day. So where's the beer? j/k :)
Grades > Just got mine. And I'm not too happy 'bout em, either.
But, on the good side, I'm now a fully-certified, Grade-A, government-inspected Eagle Scout. Yep, just got back from the board of review, they accepted me, and that's that. I believe the proper term is "WOOHOOOOO!!" but I think I'll just slip out with a "HOO-YAH!!" and a quote I find appropriate at the moment:
(From "Red Dawn," when the invading Cuban General is talking to the mayor of the occupied town)
"Your son is a member of an elite paramilitary unit - 'Eagle Scout.'"
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Malverne, NY
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:58:32 PM
IP: spider-to024.proxy.aol.com
Congrats to all the TGS staffers!!
Great job on this weeks episode. It was great to see Lex doing something besides sitting in front of a computer.
The character development was great, I was beginning to wonder where some of them had gone.
Vanessa - [jackalop@iglobal.net]
Lubbock, Texas
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:29:27 PM
IP: 207.43.174.104
*creeps in*
Hi again all!
Jeb>I read into the thing with Nightwing and Robin not being in the show, the creators are still working that out and plan to save that for seaon two if the show is successful. Right now they just want to focus on Terry and Bruce's relationship.
Bye all!
*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:18:16 PM
IP: ramp-1-38.ucdavis.edu
Ok, first off, let me aplogize for not being here the last few days, birthday (I'm 21 now!) and a new job have kept me off the net. Haven't even checked my e-mail, BTW, I got in the TGS staff it looks like. At least I have if the don't mind getting a slightly late reply (WHOOPS!) Anyway, as is my usual, and slightly dangerous, tradation I am posting my review of the last GS story without reading any others at all.
***TGS SPOLIORS***
Elisa and Goliath, and we were just talking about the lack of them in this season! Well done, and the psychlogical effects of constantly having their nights off intrupptued by something was a nice touch. And Golith actually made a joke! Elisa is having a good effect on him. Well done!
Liz and Lex is also going along well. Someone has to get Lex away from that computer once in awhile, or he would become more of a tecno geek than he is now, especially now that he has a very personal reason for being one. And the effects of constantly flying above the city without actually landing much was well portrayed.
Loki, heheh, having "The Dark Puck" is alawys fun. Or puck himself for that matter. Though what is it about people in the TGS that gives them a '6th' sense of when they are being watched? Everyone from Takeo Kimura (Tommy) to Sara Jasper seem to have it.
It was a good episode, with everything well done, from chacters to the rivilary between them (Loki and Sekment). There is just one point that really gets me, how can Brooklyn, who is suppose to have a natural talent for tactics, be so tactically stupid to confront Loki one on one, when he doesn't even have any iron about him?!?!?!? He should have at least asked Sata to hide then wait to strike when he distract Loki, or if he was concerned about his kids following him if just Sata and he when, should have asked Sata to take Araina back with her while she gave Gramere one of her swords (I think loaning your sword to your child is within the Samauri code of honor) and then have him do the sneak attack on Loki. Or simply let him go and be more prepared for the next time they would undoubltly meet.
And even with just faceing him one on one, Brooklyn doesn't even bother to draw his laser and play cat and mouse with Loki between the New York building, nor does he even try useing whatever iron may be in his armor (grabbing Loki in a bear hug and pressing him to his armor would have really hurt the fae, if there is any iron in that armor of his). Instead he quite nicely presents himself as a target for whatever spells Loki would want to throw at him, turning him into a blond haired Duncan Macleod clone for example. He only survived because Loki decide to humliate (and delay) Brooklyn and run (probably fearing the possibly of a sneak attack). That spray of mud could have easily been something more deadly, say Agent Orange or Cynaide.
I hope the other people are more prepared to meet the Unseele. If this is any exaple of the tactics that the clan are useing, it is nor wonder that Madoc and Mauve are so confidiant, even with the prophesy apprently comeing true. Now I am not asking for the Clan to start carrying around Fraggers (Fragmenation Gernades), but I hope that Gramere has at least raided a parts shop since his last encounter with Sekment and got some iron ball-bearings for his slingshot.
***END TGS SPOILERS***
Ironwolf: Thanks for the info, though I probably won't use it in this story, it will be something to look at for my later writeing, Yakuza are probably giong to be one of the major enmies in my TGS spin-off.
DumaloX: Heheh, once again, sorry about responding late, my only excuse is that I was celebrating my 21st birthday a little too much and didn't even check my e-mail until sunday night. Am I still on, and if so, what will I be doing?
Steeve Gooch, Kitainia, and other: Thanks for the congrats, I hope I still made the cut!
Whew, hope that posts this time, I don't want to rewrite it. 'Durid starts casting a few spells to prevent this, and copy and pastes his post for extra insurance'
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:13:34 PM
IP: dialupe240.mpls.uswest.net
Can't believe I forgot the most important part of the Monty Python quote I included ... *ahem*
RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
Danke :P
Aerie, signing off!
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:03:59 PM
IP: spider-wi041.proxy.aol.com
*LOL* I add to the comment room at 11:28. At 11:34, first new comment of the week is entered. Oh, well, I'll just have to work on being quicker :D
Congrats to all the new TGS-ers! *looking at Shauntell* Breathe! Breathe! *gets out electric paddles* Don't make me use these!! *laughing*
Coyote the Bando, Mandi, Mary, and the rest of you, welcome! You'll all have fun; it's a great writing/drawing experiance, and really broadens your horizons in the skills dept. (I already sent a "welcome" email to the list, but hey, two times the charm ...)
Lady M and Firestorm planning to tie the knot? Congrats! :D Hey, seems like the latest trend around here. Everyone's getting hitched!!
Deuce< <<When Emrys' pen exploded in his mouth, I had a flashback to last week, when I learned that sucking on a ballpoint gives you a sour taste in your mouth... and blue teeth. >>
*LOL* That's where that part actually came from, only it happened in the middle of my Lit class right when I was reading a piece to the class. Glad to know I'm not the only one who had that happen while chewing on a ballpoint :)
Favorite quotes< Hey, what the heck :) "When in Rome ..."
*Austin grabs Scott Evil and holds him at gun-point* "The tables have turned again, Dr. Evil."
"That's alright. Kill the little bastard, see what I care."
"But Dad, we just had a break-through in group!"
"I had the group liquidated, you little sh--! They were insolent."
"I hate you! I hate you! I wish I was never artificially created in a lab!" *running off*
"Oh, Scott, it hurts Daddy when you say that, really!"
-- Austin Powers (scariest part is that I remembered that off the top of my head :) )
Jeb< I loved all your MiB quotes!! That's one of Will Smith's best movies (ditto for Tommy Lee Jones, though I think he did a great job at Two Face in "Batman Forever", too)
"What are you doing tonight?"
"Same thing we do everynight, Pinky."
"What?"
"Forget it."
--- The New Adventures of Batman and Superman
To whomever wrote the "Newt" quote from Monty Python, I loved that one, too :)
Speaking of which ...
"The monster's over there."
"Behind that little pink bunny?"
"The monster IS the little pink bunny!"
"What?? Are you afraid it's going to bite you on the bum?"
*one of Arthur's knights prepares to kill bunny. Bunny suddenly leaps and bites knight's throat, and his head, arms, and legs fall off*
"Jesus Christ!"
"I told you so!"
---Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"Look at me, everybody! I'm a cowboy! Howdy, howdy, howdy!"
---"The Far Side" (from a vulture donning a dinner's coat and cowboy hat)
"The problem with believing in religion is that some people never get incinerated by lightening."
---Calvin and Hobbes
"Vigo the Carpathian. Born 1505. Died 1610."
"105 years old, he hung in there, didn't he?"
"He didn't die of old age, either. He was poisoned, stabbed,
shot, hung, steretched, diesemboweled, drawn and quartered."
"Ouch."
---Ghostbusters II
"Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right."
---Ghostbusters II
"Mommy's very angry"
---The Lost World
"Must go faster."
---Jurassic Park (as well as "Brief Encounters":) )
"His name is Oscar."
"Named after a hot dog, you poor man."
"Never insult dragons, for yee are crunchy and good with ketchup"
"Get a Higher Education; learn to fly"
---don't ask :)
"I will take these cotton balls from you, and put them in my pocket"
"Uh, yeah, whatever"
and:
"I can see!" *Blinkin crashes into a tree* "Nope, never mind" --- Robin Hood: Men in Tights
Ordell< I read "The Hobbit" some time ago, but it's still fresh in my mind, it was such a lovely story! I felt a little sorry for Gollem. In a way, he was like Demona. Isolated, threatened by humans (goblins, in this case), and with social skills that would make Howard Stern twitch :D
<<Aerie: You fret and worry about whether people will like a story as you write it, and depend on momentary flashes of inspiration for fic quality, too? Glad I'm not the only writer who does that! <GRIN> That was me who asked about Lucius's scrolls.>>
Glad I'm not the only writer who does that! *grin* *wink*
Disappointed to hear about the website you and Kitania were putting up; something I looked forward to. At least there's still the archives ... :)
Tchao, everyone :D
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:02:03 PM
IP: spider-wi041.proxy.aol.com
*** SLICE OF CR LIFE BIT ***
Scratchy the CR Psychiatrist is observing what promises to be one of the more interesting patients. Kenny, the CR Lawyer.
"Zo... You vink everyvone is out to kill you, ya?"
"I don't think... Its true! They've already killed me dozens of times for no reason other than to kill me!"
"I zee..." Scratchy proceeds to jot down the words, 'completley nuts' on his notepad.
** END SLICE OF CR LIFE BIT **
Hmm... I don't think I'm feeling any corruption due to my spot on the TGS staff yet... Hmm, give it time, I'll morph into a powermad psycho who craves control yet!
Of course, since my weekend was one of my best in a long time, naturally today was NOT fun. Now that we finished that FUN English storybook project, we have a month to put together... **shudder** A college entrance research project... Geez... And now that I'm home, I have to type up a bunch of stuff for my dad's buisness and figure out how to make some of the programs on this new computer work... As well, a program that I installed on the old Mac to allow scanning capabilities crashed the system, and it won't come back on... Oii... Just shows, perfect weekends lead to bad weeks...
** MORE SLICE OF CR LIFE **
Scratchy is on his next patient. "Zo... You believe you created a gun half your zize to launch piez?"
"No no, that was the guy I was cloned from, Vinnie. Or I may have been cloned from John Travolta, I'm not sure."
Scratchy shakes his head. "I zee... Hmm... Are you in any zort of relationzhip?"
"Yeah! I love it!"
"I zee... It all makez zense now...Are you aware you are a complete nut boy?"
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 09:46:56 PM
IP: spider-ta061.proxy.aol.com
**LAST RP FOR A WHILE**
Kyryn looks up and says, Guys, I gotta go. The gremlins want to get back to their dimension; and, as you probably know, I've got some heavy business to take care of." She revs her bike and yells, "Go get Marsh!" She, Bandit, and the gremlins ride off for Uvalde, but on the way they stop in the CR.
**END RP FOR A WHILE**
Well, this doesn't mean I won't be doing Blaisisms; but things are getting real busy (TGS and RL work!), so I figured that I'd drop out of the RP for a while. This is partly because I think that my posting frequency will be down due to workloads.
Christine: I was ROTFLMAO. We have a squirrel here on campus that we call Nutkin, because he's missing most of his tail. I started thinking of him when I read that, since he's always running around with more nuts than he can carry.
My favorite line: "Yesss" - Kosh
On being on Staff: Well, it sort of reminds me of WIlek's RP last summer, where a bunch of people used the Phoenix Gate to go read future eps. **evil grin**
Spike> Re comments last week: "Lone Wolf and Cub" was not a Frank Miller work. I'm verifying this with Okami, but I know that it was a translated manga from Japan.
Ah well, I'm off to read this week's ep, since I've been busy with everything else.
**Kyryn revs the engine and speeds out of the CR**
Kyryn - [bmashburn@yahoo.com]
Uvalde, TX
Monday, January 11, 1999 09:30:53 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
20th!
Hello all! :)
New TGS Staffers> Congratulations and welcome aboard! :)
Batman Beyond> I liked it okay. I'll need to see a few more episodes before I make a full judgement on it. **SPOILERS** Good points: Bruce Wayne is still an effective fighter at eighty-something. :) The Joker Gang, despite its being a "Akira" Clown Gang rip-off, was interesting. Powers' transformation into either Dr. Phosphorus or the Corrosive Man was unexpected and shocking, and I look forward to seeing him again. I also liked little details like the Ventriloquist's dummy being in the Batcave, Ace the Bat-Dog, and Batman's reason for quitting (he had to use a gun- something he despised- to scare off a criminal).
Bad points: But Bruce Wayne would never give up and leave the city to its own devices like that. He would have passed the mantle of Gotham's protector to Robin or Batgirl, or, barring them, someone like Terry. But he would not have left the city unsafe.
Terry reminded me a LOT of David Carter from 'Invasion America.'
Other stuff: Anyone notice that George Takei played Powers' evil right-hand man? Also, Terry's foe from school looked a lot like Flash Thompson. And I'd really like to know what happened to Nightwing and Robin... Batman never had a family, either? Likely we'll not know, to leave a big blank spot between the present-day series and Beyond. Ah well. :) *shrugs*
**END SPOILERS**
Well, back to my scholarship site. :)
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 09:19:39 PM
IP: 173-84-226.ipt.aol.com
** Deuce enters. He's wearing a TGS t-shirt. **
I'm in. Yippee. (I already took out my excitement on my French class this aft, so I'm a little calmer now). This has actually been one of my better days. I got accepted to TGS, got a great mark on two tests and an assignment, and had an overall decent day. Except for... *interrupted by a radio broadcast*
"And now, for a local weather report for the Edmonton area:
Temperature: Really cold
Precipitation: Lots of it. All of it white, fluffy, and frozen
Visibility: Sucks
Road conditions: Suck
Wind chill: Sucks
Overall: Stay inside with your hot beverage of choice"
*shuts off broadcast* Oops. Hehe.... Now to reply to everybody from today.
DUMLAOX> ["...wait till some e-mail comes your way. It'll tell you what to do next."] So, something along the lines of "your mission, should you choose to accept it"? ;-)
** SPOILERS FOR "NOCTURNE". DUCK. ***
Great story! Had everything I was looking for (and I was looking for a lot): Romance, Goliath-Elisa romance, Liz, Sara Jasper, Matt on a date (I was dying to see his reaction), Loki, Hacker, Brooklyn's laser gun, and the twins kicking butt. Not to mention it was almost solely character-driven, and developed many people who seriously needed it. 8/10.
"Harrison Hamill"? Jeeze....
Aspirin in a flower vase helps the flowers? Cool, I should try that. (Yeah, Mandi, it does work. I asked someone who would know...).
** END SPOILERS. **
MANDI> I don't think Brooklyn lost memories of his Dancing. I think he said that so he wouldn't have to reveal an obviously bleak future for his Clan, not to mention some unpleasant memories he picked up along the way.
SPIKE> THIS is one of the things I'm looking forward to: torture. Hehehe....
OK, I'm leaving for now. Talk to y'all later!
** Deuce goes to leave, but is accosted by Scratchy, the CR shrink. "I sink dat joo are maneek-depresseeve, mah-ee fraind". Deuce just looks at him. **
I knew that.
** leaves. And yeah, I really am manic-depressive. More M than D lately, thank God. **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Snow, Champions, and Whiteout Conditions, Alberta, Canada
Monday, January 11, 1999 09:14:36 PM
IP: ts1793.connect.ab.ca
***BEGIN RP****
Sevarius Jr. is lying down on a medical cot. Beside him, Dark Mage Wilek is trying to coax him into a trance, to better link up telepathically with his clone.
"Just relax," DMW tells him. "Focus on your clone. Try and block out everything else in your mind--only think of your double."
SJ's brow furrows with exertion. "I....I think I'm getting something."
"What?" Wilek asks. "Can you read SJ 2's thoughts?"
"I...I don't know. It's very odd, like there's two voices in my head, mine and his....I...I'm picking up images. A world shrouded in darkness....that's where the Death Star is...and....there's....there's something else....something...AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
Suddenly, SJ starts to convulse. His body spasms uncontrollably.
"What's happening to him? What's wrong?" Wilek asks.
DMW is shocked. "I don't know! I've never seen this before!"
SJ grabs Wilek, his body shaking. "Something....." he gasps, "Something....has gone.....wrong!"
****PAUSE RP******
Final thoughts on Batman Beyond: I am still a little apprehensive about it....I mean, Bruce will ALWAYS be Bats in my opinion...but the show was good last night, can't deny it!
Tolkien: I just can't wait until the Lord of the Rings trilogy hits the big screen. I'm dying to see this. Bad thing about is that it'll probably be at least 2 years until "Fellowship" hits the theaters...
Movies!: Speaking of movies, I went with a friend to go see "A Civil Action" over the weekend. Ugh....I'm not a Travolta fan. And the movie wasn't that great, although it was a good story. At least Bobby D, Mr. Robert Duvall, gave a damn good performance!
Fire Storm: Chicken fajitas? *Morphs into Homer* Mmmmmm.....chicken fajitas.....You quiero Taco Bell!
And I love the Snuggle bear tank commercial! Haven't had a good laugh like that in a long time.
Doug: Sorry you're not going on with your website. Geez, you and Kitiana live pretty interesting lives, I'm sure your website would be pretty popular. I'm gonna miss it.
Daily Show: Does anyone watch this? Personally, I think it's the best news show on the air. For anyone who cares, new host Jon Stewart takes over tonight.
CONGRATS new TGS staff! Lucky bastards. Just remember: Power corrupts. Absolute TGS power corrupts absolutely.
Carolynn: Glad to see fellow Dennis Miller fans in here! As for the show being taped, well I'm just glad it's shown at all. I was upset when one of my other fave shows, Larry Sanders, ended last year.
Wilek: Hey, I didn't know you were a B5 fan!
Room Shrink: I say they don't last a week. No one can stop the Madness! Let's name him Hannibal, after my favorite psychiatrist of all time.
***RESUME RP****
Meanwhile, on the Death Star.....
While Sevarius, Jerec, and Burgo the Hutt all confer with each other as to what should be their next course of action, they conveniently overlook the whereabouts of SJ 2.....
.....who, at this moment, is huddled in a corner....shaking uncontrollably. Once more, for the hundredth time, he carefully pulled back his shirt sleeve revealing the flesh of his right arm.....flesh that was now discolored, and blotched with dark patches of diseased tissue....
"What's......happening.....to....me??"
****PAUSE RP******
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 08:59:30 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.webcache.erols.net
**RP!!**
**The screen lights up to reveal ... the tank and the convertible standing vigilant outside the ruined gates of Galante's mansion. Coyote and Ravyn are in the convertible, weapons at the ready, while Jason is in the tank's Commander's Seat. Jimmie the Borgified seal boy is in the back seat of the convertible.**
Hiya, folks. We're waiting for word on Doug's infiltration team, but now that we know they're ready for us, we have to be ready for anything.
<"Here's another!">
Jason, careful with those! **Jason tosses an RPG at the convertible, which Ravyn only barely manages to catch** What would've happened if that thing had gone off?!
<"Sorry.">
It's okay.
**Ravyn tugs on Coyote's sleeve.** <"Uhh, Coyote ...">
Yeah?
**Ravyn points toward a disfigurement appearing in the ground, near the far end of the backup line.**
Ohhhhhhh crud!!
**PAUSE RP!!**
**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR "NOCTURNE"**
A very sweet episode, folks! Nice idea to focus more on three couples *and* integrate the ongoing Unseelie situation into it, as well. Even the little things I liked about this one (the Con, for example ... I've been to cons like that one!!). Bravo, folks.
**END SPOILERS FOR "NOCTURNE"**
Kitainia: You'll get your chance ... and while I'm thinking of it, thanks for all the comments on "Sword of Ares," guys!
Wilek: Actually, you'll find out exactly what's going to happen to Clan Guatemala in the next one. And Brooklyn and Sata are still alive and well ... they're currently in New York, far from the slaughter of Ishimura.
Oh, incidentally ... I think I mentioned this to either Ravyn or Skydancer on e-mail, but I've almost reached my license limit on carnage inflicted on canon characters in my fics. ;) And the death toll just seems to keep rising ...
Shauntell: I think you know by now, but I'm as excited as you are (the word that comes to mind is *vibrating!!* ;).
Room Psychiatrist: I vote we name him Scratchy.
Fire Storm: COOLIES, another Dark Crystal fan! I LOVE that movie!!!
Spike: AAAAAAAIIIGHH!!! Will this torture never end?! ;)
**RESUME RP!!**
Everybody across! NOW!!!
**The command comes too late, as most of the support parties can't make it across before the crevasse cuts them off. In fact, the only ones that make it across are the convertible and Kyryn on her motorbike.**
<"We're clear!">
Good. But now what's happening?
**The convertible screeches to a halt, at the business end of a barrage of rifles ... being held by a cadre of Galante's personal bodyguards.**
Six of one, half-dozen of the other ... I just can't win!!!
**The bodyguards approach as the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, January 11, 1999 08:47:19 PM
IP: modem78.i-is.com
*creeps in*
Hi all!
Batman Beyond>I liked it a lot. Bruce is a bitter old fart knocker (my term for old geezer :P) which is kinda depressing seeing a classic hero get old. I liked the new Batman. He has the additude that Bruce never had. Can't wait for more episodes.
Spike>AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Enough with the teasers! Your gonna drive us nuts!!! Oh, wait, we already are! ;P
Later!
*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Monday, January 11, 1999 08:03:30 PM
IP: ramp-1-13.ucdavis.edu
Thanks for the kind response, as always it is appreciated.
Other useful tips for prolonging the life of your next bouquet > Recut the stems _underwater_ before plunging them into lukewarm water in which a regular asprin tablet has been disolved. (It must be aspirin and not a substitute)
Cheers!
kathy
Monday, January 11, 1999 07:15:13 PM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net
Ordell- Sounds like a quote from Gollum to me... But its been a while since I read Tolkien's trilogy of the ring...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 06:57:51 PM
IP: spider-wg052.proxy.aol.com
Mandi > You have the file of that? Oh, send it, please.....just at the adress above....thanks, alot.
One more quote > "I HATE YOU!!!! I HATE YOUR FOREVER!!!!"----that guy from The Hobbit and Blaine from The Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass
Ordell - [R0land@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 06:03:34 PM
IP: 205-18-60.ipt.aol.com
New on my site -- story #52, "The Scottish Rogue." In two parts because it turned out longer than anticipated. Click on my name or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/garg_fan_fiction.html
And, as always, comments eagerly welcomed! ; )
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:47:08 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
"By the nine worlds of Niflheim," Loki swore angrily, "When I find the one that did this to me, I’ll feed him piece by piece to the dragon Nidhogg for all eternity!"
"How very Nordic," Madoc commented. "Using such oaths does not bode well for your task."
Who's Loki pissed at? Find out in "When The Bough Breaks" ... coming soon.
Spike
Monday, January 11, 1999 11:48:36 AM
IP: dal-as2-1025.cmpu.net
MANDI - Thanks for the kind words. I'm not worried about how I handled the "Brooklyn vs. Loki" business myself. My concern was more one of: "Didn't they already do a story about an ancient evil non-human being that wants to conquer the world going after a magic ring, and call it 'The Lord of the Rings'?" All the more so since some Tolkienists believe that Andvari's Ring aka the Ring of the Nibelung was a partial model for the One Ring (although Tolkien's rather indignant response to that was that the only similarity between the two rings was that they were round; I did a paper for a Tolkien convention that I attended a few years ago that discussed that point and came to the conclusion that Tolkien was correct and that the similarities had been exaggerated).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, January 11, 1999 10:32:44 AM
IP: sys.slpl.lib.mo.us
Umm....I think I'm 13th, give or take. Not counting multiple posts.
Shauntell> Isn't it great? Now take a minute to breathe, girl! I'm excited too, but calm down! :)
**SPOILERS FOR "NOCTURNE" TO FOLLOW! RUN FOR THE HILLS!**
Since I just e-mailed Patrick with a correction about e-mail (I bet you just love me now, huh, guys?) I'm still not quite on the TGS list yet, so I can still comment.
Let's start with the three dates.
1) Elisa and Goliath have a date, and for once nothing screws it up! **gasp, choke** Seriously, that was nice to see for a change, and well timed coming on the heels of "Reunions." Question: does a tablet of aspirin really help preserve cut flowers, and does it have to be aspirin? If so, I've got to try that out after the next play this semester.
2) Lex and Liz. Okay, personal preference - I've wanted to see their friendship get more development ever since "The Rising." I don't see them as a couple just yet (ducks the objects certain people throw at her), which is why I liked them in this. Their "date" wasn't romantic like Elisa and Goliath's, or trying to be romantic like Sara and Matt. Lex needs a friend right now, and it's good to see them starting out as friends at least instead of suddenly having a relationship.
3) Sara and Matt. I was wondering if Sara had dropped off the face of the earth. 14th precinct? Well, New York's pretty big, that's close enough. :) Interesting that the Illuminati are trying to use her to get to Matt now. Just a rather nice subplot in the mix, and well-handled.
Now for the Unseelie part.
Loki vs. Brooklyn: Timedancer has to start up again soon, it has to. With all the rage that the sight of Loki stirred up in Brooklyn, despite the apparent memory loss he suffered of his travels, we're going to have to see where that all came from.
Andvari's Ring: Todd, don't worry about it. That was a good subplot to follow anyway, and if the curse backfired on Loki...well, *something* has to screw up the Unseelie for a change after all their draws and victories.
Again, a well-done episode. **claps**
**SPOILERS END. WE NOW RETURN YOU TO THE USUAL ADD-SPAWNED RAMBLINGS OF MANDI.**
Ordell > Doesn't the quote go like this?
O'Neill:"Lucy, I'm home!"
Teal'c: "I am not Lucy."
(I have the wav file of the whole conversation if you want it, BTW.)
Okay. It's after eight. Better get started on documenting those corrections. *gag*
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 08:10:43 AM
IP: 131.92.166.193
I'll admit that I had my qualms when writing the part about Andvari's Ring (I did that part of "Nocturne", while Kathy did the three "dates"), because while I'd wanted to do something somewhere in TGS with that particular legend, I originally didn't want it to involve the Unseelie Court, simply because - well, let's face it: Madoc trying to get his hands on a very powerful magic ring with a curse upon it? That sort of thing's already been done. But that particular magical artifact seemed most appropriate for the story after I'd read the "werecheetah in the jewelry store" scene at the beginning (the Unseelies were clearly after *some* piece of magical jewelry), so I decided to just forge on ahead with it.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, January 11, 1999 07:47:44 AM
IP: pn3-ppp-123.primary.net
<Fire Storm appears in the CR eating a chicken fahita <SP, I know.>>
DumlaoX: Click my link for the CR archives. December 12 is the archive for your rant... I think.
Fire Storm - [<--- CR Archives in ZIP form]
Monday, January 11, 1999 02:27:04 AM
IP: dhcp170.visitus.net
* Sigh!* I just read this weeks story. It was so cute!!! I'm getting so excited!! Pretty soon my name is going to be in the credits!! Yes! I liked the picture of Goliath and Elisa. I'ld like to see more, because they are soo cute!!
Toottles everybody!!
Shauntell - [sgargoyle9]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:50:52 AM
IP: spider-wj071.proxy.aol.com
Has anyone in here seen that N64 ad for that tank game with the Snuggle Bear rippoff? I was laughing my a@@ off when I saw it!
Seeing all of these quotes wants me to go rent the Transformers movie.
Christine: Nutgoyles? I shudder at the thought.
Quotes:
"Please do not shoot at the thermonuclear weapons."
-John Travolta, Broken Arrow
"I Challange!"
(Murmers in the room)
"Trial by stone." <Said emphasizing each word>
"TRIAL BY STONE!" <Yelling>
-The Dark Crystal
(After being told that what the person was about to say was stupid)
"The smartest questions that I have ever heard asked started with 'This may sound like a stupid question...'"
-Me
"Humans love a battle hearty,
So does Puck, come on, lets Party"
-Data :)
"I'm gonna ask Daddy is I can be a whore when I grow up. He says that he really needs one."
-Little girl, Fallout 2
"Clever Girl."
-Famous last words, Jurassic Park
"Your an Angel
Your name is 'Malachi'
Thats ancient Hebrew for 'Bad ass mother'"
-Ad for Requiem
"Tastes like chicken"
<Looks of unfimilarity>
"You know..." <Flaps like a bird and clucks>
-Daniel Jackson, Stargate the MOVIE
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:34:32 AM
IP: dhcp165.visitus.net
**FIRST, SOME RP!!**
In Thailog's secret base, Admiral Lagor (the man in charge of Jerec's fleet) is reporting that he managed to heavily damage the Dark Star forces, but that they escaped. Jerec looks angry and begins making a choking motion with his fingers. Lagor gets a pained and horrified expression on his face as he clutches at his throat. "Stop!" Thailog warns Jerec. "I will not have you wasting good battle commanders just because they don't completely succeed!" The Dark Jedi sighs and releases Lagor. "Thanks," gasps the Admiral, massaging his neck. "Return to the Death Star," Thailog commands him. "Burgo the Hutt and Admiral Nipon will need your ships' assistance against the enemy forces if they are indeed heading there next, as I believe them to be." "Yes, sir, I'm sure they are. We shall set course for the Death Star, which is currently orbiting the planet Dantooine, posthaste. Anything else?" "Yes," says Thailog. "Contact Burgo and have him send us an interdictor cruiser, we need to get the Dark Star out of hyperspace, our spy there can pinpoint the location of its parking orbit." "As you wish, my lord." "Dismissed." Thailog ends the transmission and turns to Zale and Vapor Serpent. "Has the Metal Gear 5000 been fitted with the proper space travel devices?" "Yes, sir," Zale reports. "I also upgraded the weapons, gave it complete stealth to the Dark Star's location systems, and added interdiction devices. We now have on our side the ultimate death machine." "Good," says Thailog. "Marsh, I want you to get some of your automated factories converted so they can mass-produce more MG-5000s. I have a feeling we will need them when we take over the world." "I'll call Kilmer and have him get started on it," Marsh nods. Thailog then looks at Serpent. "Is your team ready to attack, infiltrate, and destroy the Dark Star?" "Yes," Vapor Serpent replies. "I have with me five others. Storm Eagle, master of battle magic. Uzi Caracal, ace gunfighter and acrobat. Shootist Tarantula, trapmaker and sniper extroadinaire. Gatling Grizzly, giant and insane psycho killer. And lastly Orca Doppelganger, master of espionage, psionics, and disguise." "They all sound useful. We have obtained a VR simulation program of the Dark Star from our spy, make sure you run them through it before you leave." Serpent salutes and walks out. Thailog is about to dismiss the others when the phone next to Gennady Bucharev begins to ring. He scoops it up.
The screen switches to Boris (yes, the Black Ravens' Boris), who is on a payphone at the other end. "Doug and Kitainia are coming to get Galante," he's saying into the line. "You want him to live, you better warn him fast." Suddenly from behind Boris there comes a loud "Ahem!" "Uh, that's all!" Boris shouts into the phone. "Bye!" He hangs up and turns around to see his girlfriend Elena, with THE most shocked and angry expression on her face that anyone has ever seen. "Why are you betraying us?" she asks Boris, getting right to the point. "Uh, Elena, I..." Boris stammers.
The screen changes to Doug, who is making a post in the CR before he and Kitainia enter Galante's mansion.
**END RP 1ST HALF**
Hey everyone. I am whatever number we're up to now. This post is gonna be long, that's partly cause I have a lot to talk about.
First off, some kinda bad news about my website. Kitainia and I have discussed the issue of building it, and come to the conclusion that we do not really have the time, the need, or the desire to make a webpage for ourselves. So we took it down. Apologies to all who were looking forward to seeing it, please understand that it will now not be brought to life. My stories can still be seen on GFW, I will continue to post them there. The website is down now, though, so if you've linked to it you might as well get rid of that link. Thanks, and sorry it didn't work out. Next topic.
Batman Beyond: Very well-charecterized show, with what looks like a great plot so far. If the rest is as good as the first episode, WB definitely has a good animated series. And the fact that it was made to sell toys doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna suck. Good shows like GI Joe, Transformers, He-Man, and many more were first created for the same reason. I also liked the villains, and that Barbara has been made Police Commissioner. Also, just because some of the cops are cozy with the villain didn't mean she was. I've written a story where the commissioner really didn't like the evil businessman, but had to put up with him because his company was making all the cops' gear. The police chief, who had more clout with his officers, was cozy with the evil businessman, though, and accepted bribes for ignoring his criminal activity. Maybe there's a similar situation in Batman Beyond.
Congrats to all who made the TGS Staff, I'm looking forward to seeing all your work on next season.
Kitainia: Please refrain from spilling secrets about my fanfic universe or its characters without my authorization. Thank you. (BTW, you're right, it is the same Laura. She just went back to her father's last name after her family moved to Albuquerque from Springfield. Just a little kudos to my inspiration. :) )
Aerie: You fret and worry about whether people will like a story as you write it, and depend on momentary flashes of inspiration for fic quality, too? Glad I'm not the only writer who does that! <GRIN> That was me who asked about Lucius's scrolls.
Spike: The movie you're thinking of is Blade Runner. I liked that a lot, too. It has some very good lines and characters in it. Especially Roy Batty's final monologue and the bit at the end- "We don't know how long we have together. Who does?" They took that out of the Director's Cut, I think, :( Rachel was my favorite of the characters in there, I named Xanatos's daughter in my fics after her.
Traveler: Look forward to seeing you when you get back. :)
**NEW EPISODE SPOILERS BEGIN, SO DO MY COMMENTS!**
What, no "previously on Gargs" bit? This is a first!
Very good plot and characterization in this ep. It was all so detailed and well-written I could see the action in my head as I read the words on the page, that's always a plus. :) I liked everything that was done with Elisa, Goliath, Matt, Lex, Loki, and the other featured Unseelie. Good development on Brooklyn and his family, too. I was laughing out loud at Matt's reaction to Elisa having a date. (Finally, she and Goliath get to do something fun! And I'm real glad it wasn't ruined. <smile>)
Kudos also on the return of Sara Jasper, I like what is being done with Matt and her. (Besides, Sara Bluestone has such a nice ring to it! :) Glad Lex and Liz are getting together too, I liked their character development. Good romantic development on all three of the couples in this story, especially Goliath and Elisa.
"Ah, the Big Apple," he said. "I like what they've done with the place. Smog, street crime, heavy traffic jams, and now the worst winter of all time. All that it needs to make things complete is the ultimate trickster. And he just got here." - That's going into my best TGS moments book. After Sekhmet, Loki has to be my favorite Unseelie.
Nice pic of Goliath and Elisa, too, even if she does look a little too cartoony. Overall, another excellent episode. Hope the TGS Staff keeps up the good work!
**COMMENTS AND SPOILERS ARE OVER!**
Room Psychiatrist Issue: Sure, go ahead. Put our sanity even more at risk in here, give us someone else to abuse. :) Just don't expect me to be a part of it.
Guess that's all I have to say tonight. Oh, one last thing. This evening's X-Files was a lot better than I expected it to be, glad they were able to relate Mulder and Scully's relationship with their work in a good way for once. And Next Week's will be even better. They're bringing back the conspiracy, and Skinner's been infected with a biological weapon. I will be watching this one and storing up memories! (At least, I hope I will.)
That's all, later!
**BACK TO RP**
Doug nods to Kitainia and they start heading for the house. The others remain surrounding it, keeping a lookout so Galante doesn't escape. "Doug!" Elena suddenly shouts, just as Doug and Kitainia reach the mansion's gates. "What?" Doug asks her, turning around. Kitainia does the same. "Boris has something to tell you," the Halfling snaps, painfully jerking her boyfriend's ear (she's dragged him from the payphone up to them). "Ow!" the big Russian wails. Elena shoots him a warning look and he calms down. "Doug," Boris sighs. "Galante may not be in there. I...I told them we were coming in. I've been telling Bucharev everything we plan and do. That's how the bad guys knew our route to San Antonio, and the things we were gonna do there. That's how they knew we were coming to Santa Fe. Me feeding them information may also be how Thailog knew about Wilek going to attack Area 51, I'm not sure." "Boris?" Kitainia asks him, speaking very slowly. "You've been spying on us for the enemy?" Boris nods, gulping nervously. "Let me assure you," he says, "it was all done against my will. It's Bucharev, he forced me." "You better explain, Bore," says Doug, crossing his arms and watching Boris but still keeping one eye on Galante's house. "And make it a good one." "I have a sister," Boris answers. "When my grandfather, grandmother, and father came to America, they left my father's first wife behind. Dad thought she was dead, taken away in one of Stalin's purges. Dad later met another woman here, married her, and as you know, I was the only child born of that union. But Bucharev called me, back when we first discovered he was working with Thailog, and revealed something to me I can't believe. My father's first wife was pregnant when she got sent to the death camp, Dad knew but never told me. And she had her child before she died, a daughter named Anastasia. My father's first wife gave Anya up to a guard that was nice to her and his family, to raise her as their own. She grew up, got married and had kids, and lived happily in Russia for a long time. Until the government collapsed, and the famine and war, and everything else that's going on there now started happening. Naturally she wanted to leave when she saw it going on, and she contacted Bucharev. She and her husband Vlad Golov, and their two children, were smuggled into the states on one of Bucharev's ships. He has them working off their fare now, in a factory somewhere, just like my grandparents and Dad had to do. But that's not all. When Bucharev called me, he told me their lives are in his hands, the lives of family members I never knew. Ones I would never know, he said, if I didn't spy on us for him. You gotta understand, guys, I had no choice. I also thought that if I did feed him information, I could be more useful. Like you said, the fewer people Thailog has at his command the easier job we'll have of beating him, right? And we've been doing well so far, I thought it could continue. Do you see what I'm saying?" Doug and Kitainia nod, seeing his reasons. "Alright," Doug says. "You're forgiven. But Boris, you better stop feeding Thailog and Bucharev our plans. I mean it." "Doug, I can't do that. If I don't call him at least once every three days and tell him what we're doing, he'll start killing them off. Same deal if I feed him false info." "Damn it," Doug sighs. "Wait. Do you know where the factory your family are working in is?" "Not exactly. I did ask him, though, to be sure. He said it was in Colorado Springs. I know, I can't trust Bucharev. But I don't think he was lying to me. I also asked Mom about Dad's first wife, she's confirmed at least part of Bucharev's story." "It does sound plausible," Doug nods in agreement. "But of course we can't be sure it's true." "Doug, please. I'm sure it is." "I know, Boris. Tell you what, as soon as we finish up here, we're going to Colorado Springs. I think we need to break out your sister and her family." "Really? You'd do that for me?" Doug nods. "Of course. I bet we can locate them easily too. All it will take is a little detective work. For now, we better take care of Galante. He's a more immediate threat. Okay?" Boris nods, taking up his bazooka and firing a shell that destroys the mansion gates. He, Doug, Kitainia, Tricia, Jammer, and Elena then rush inside, the others keeping a perimeter around the place. The screen fades out, to be continued.
**END THIS VERY EMOTIONAL BIT OF RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:25:52 AM
IP: hil-c45-079-vty242.as.wcom.net
Hmm, I like the idea of this room having a psychiatrist. It needs one. I'm rooting for calling him Scratchinsniff. Scratchy for short.
*** SPOILERS FOR THIS WEEKS FIC! WHOLE POST FROM HERE ON IS SPOILERS, SO DON'T READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE STORY YET!***
Hey, weren't people asking for a Goliath/Elisa story just last week? Hmm... It would be spiffy to see a story with the mutates again...
Nice to see them on a date though. Long time in coming. They haven't had one since what... "The Journey?" And look how that turned out.. Can't say I blame Elisa for the way she acted...
Liz was actually in this one! YES! And you had her and Lex visit a sci-fi con... Great stuff there, though I wish we's seen more of the con... So much can happen at a sci-fi con. I know. I've attended a few.
Sara came back, and it seems she and Matt are getting along just fine... Very nice...
Both of my favorite Unseelie were in this one as well. The trickster and the cat lady... YES!
Hacker is coming up again... I was wondering about him... The illuminati has plans for Matt eh? Heh heh heh...(I'm still waiting for the day we find out Hacker is actual the head Illuminati. Won't happen,but it would be kinda fun.)
And then you have a scene with Brooklyn and his family. Any story with my favorite gargoyle gets bonus points.
And lets not forget the subtle mentioning of Atlantis... Foreshadowing perhaps?
Imagiworks? The TGS equivilent to Dreamworks,but avoiding legalities?
Overall its was a very good story. It was a character story, which is always better than a reaction story. And the dates were well done. The TGS has needed a good romance story for a while now, and this pretty much covers that splendidly. I liked this story a LOT being a hopeless romantic. Wait, I'm not hopeless anymore... I'm dating... I'm liked this story a LOT being a romantic then.
As well, Brooklyn and Loki meeting was good. They do have 40 years of history together after all. They'll have to settle things at some point.
Great lines... "You really do need to work on this paranoia issue you've got going."
"Sorry if this sounds like a cliched villains outburst..."
"I promise when next I take you out we shall have one small calamity."
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:15:11 AM
IP: spider-wb054.proxy.aol.com
Hello everyone!! Yes!! I'm soo happy! I made it to TGS!! YES! YES! YES!!
Wow!! I'm going to work hard, I promise! Congrats to everyone who made it! It'll be fun working with you!
Tootles!
shauntell - [sgargoyle9]
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:11:00 AM
IP: spider-wj071.proxy.aol.com
Quotes? Hmm I've got this one floating around in my head...
Conan (as said to a bunch of buzzards)
You needn't have interrupted your repast on my account, winged friends. We're all in this world to eke out a living after all, one way or another. :)
Ash
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:09:39 AM
IP: ps1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca
I only clicked submit once, I don't know why it double posted. My apologies
Ash
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:02:19 AM
IP: ps1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca
EPISODE SPOILERS
****************
I liked how another magical item was incorporated into the series, even though the storyline is starting to get a little old. I mean, how many items of power can be found in museums? Now, I would have rather seen the ring on a mafia princess or something. Another gripe I have is that the powerful ring "one that would ensure our victory" could be destroyed so easily, though granted, a laser beam can be many times hotter than the hottest forge fire.
I really liked the portrayal of Loki though, and his quip "This almost makes up for the quips about who your horse's mother was" was particularly hillarious. I hope Loki becomes nastier though than what he showed in this ep.
Good Job, and hope to see the show again next week...
Ash
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:01:21 AM
IP: ps1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca
EPISODE SPOILERS
****************
I liked how another magical item was incorporated into the series, even though the storyline is starting to get a little old. I mean, how many items of power can be found in museums? Now, I would have rather seen the ring on a mafia princess or something. Another gripe I have is that the powerful ring "one that would ensure our victory" could be destroyed so easily, though granted, a laser beam can be many times hotter than the hottest forge fire.
I really liked the portrayal of Loki though, and his quip "This almost makes up for the quips about who your horse's mother was" was particularly hillarious. I hope Loki becomes nastier though than what he showed in this ep.
Good Job, and hope to see the show again next week...
Ash
Monday, January 11, 1999 01:01:20 AM
IP: ps1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca
****SHORT RP****
After the battle with the borg Jaden moves around checking to make sure that non of the bad guys are still moving. His claws felt like they were on fire...ripping apart baddies was starting hurt his fingures. He needed to find a weapon.
As if someone had answered his prayers he triped and feel over a large ax. Looking the battle-ax over, he cleaned it up and headed to rejoin the group. He didn't care where it came from or who its owner was; it was his now.
****END RP!!!!****
Fav. quote-I have too many so I'll just pick a few.
Spaceballs- "Careful you fool! I said across her nose, not up it!" (Lord Helmet)
"AH! What's wrong with you?!-Ruby Rod (The Fifth Element)
Well got to go read the current TGS. "See" Ya!!!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Monday, January 11, 1999 12:59:51 AM
IP: pm1-10.sma.silcom.com
Whatever number I am...
**NEW TGS EP SPOILERS**
Hm, not much action in this one. Harrison Hamill?! Who's the TGS staff's Star Wars fan? Continuity glitch: The first two times it's named, the computer game is called "Sky Destroyer". Later, it's called "Star Destroyer". Make up your minds. :P The Goliath/Elisa date seemed to have little to do with the story, but somehow I sensed that was deliberate. It was worth it for Goliath's punchline. (When did he start telling jokes? I'm glad he's not so withdrawn anymore.) Heh, last week people were griping about how there weren't enough E&G eps, and now here's one. :) I liked the revelation of the Unseelie strategy, how they're looking for powerful Fey artifacts. I just wonder what other dark weapons happen to be collecting dust in mortal museums.
**END SPOILERS**
Wilek Nereus
Monday, January 11, 1999 12:39:51 AM
IP: tnt-1-174-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Let's see now...what number am I this week? Hmmm... AH-HA! NUMBER FIVE!!! There we go, and since that's taken care of, I'm going to read the ep. However, be wary... I shall return...later. *hehehe*
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:44:28 PM
IP: 208-221-12.ipt.aol.com
TO all new applicants:
Someone asked what do you do now. Well... you wait. And wait. And wait till some e-mail comes your way. It'll tell you what to do next.
Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:40:53 PM
IP: pool0005-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net
3rdBefore I forget ,
CONGRATS TO ALL THE NEW MEMBERS OF STAFF .
And as I am uncertain as to whether or not I said this before . Congratulations to Firestorm and Lady M. on their engagement . I wish you happiness , and may you live in interesting times . (j/k) .
TRC - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:36:18 PM
IP: 208.11.41.198
Yes I was! By a fraction of a second! WOO HOO! Man, this has been a REALLY good weekend for me...
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:36:00 PM
IP: spider-wb054.proxy.aol.com
Second!!
More quotes >
"Who is...Lucy?"----Teal'C (Stargate SG-1: Broca Divide)
"What's a Nubian?"----Banky (Chasing Amy)
"Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.? That's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot. Say I'm working at N.S.A. Somebody puts a code on my desk, something nobody else can break. So I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, 'cause I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East. Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels were hiding and fifteen hundred people I never had a problem with get killed. Now the politicians are sayin', "Send in the marines to secure the area" 'cause they don't give a shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number was called, 'cause they were pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some guy from Southie takin' shrapnel in the ass. And he comes home to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, 'cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile my buddy from Southie realizes the only reason he was over there was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And of course the oil companies used the skirmish to scare up oil prices so they could turn a quick buck. A cute little ancillary benefit for them but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon. And naturally they're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, and maybe even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and play slalom with the icebergs, and it ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic. So my buddy's out of work and he can't afford to drive, so he's got to walk to the job interviews, which sucks 'cause the schrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorroids. And meanwhile he's starvin' 'cause every time he tries to get a bite to eat the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State. So what do I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better. Why not just shoot my buddy, take his job and give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected president."----Matt Damon (Good Will Hunting)
"Nothing is trivial."----Brandon Lee (The Crow)
"Mother is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all childern."----Brandon Lee (The Crow)
"Do you know how to die?"----Vincent Perez (The Crow: Ciy of Angels)
"The way your dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any of the slopes were gonna get their greasy yellow hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something: his ass. Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the watch to you."----Christopher Walken (Pulp Fiction)
Ordell - [R0land@aol.com]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:35:30 PM
IP: 207-173-142.ipt.aol.com
Goliath and Elisa finally set a date. So why is Loki looking for the ring?
Nocturne
The New Gargoyles/Pendragon episode
Written by: Todd Jensen and Kathy Pogge
Story concept by: Todd Jensen and Kathy Pogge
Illustrations by: Noel Leas
ENJOY!!!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:34:23 PM
IP: pool0005-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net
Am I first?
Robby
Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:34:22 PM
IP: spider-wb054.proxy.aol.com