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Hi everyone! (yes, still hyper. Not even a flat tyre on Thursday could kill it. I'm begining to wonder if this mood will be permanant. :))

Caer> Hello and welcome to the CR. I don't agree with you (Brook as a family man just tickles my fancy for some reason), but I can see where you're coming from. The old Brook was kewl. The new one is just as good, so don't discount him just yet. :)

Crossovers> *grins* Okay, the whole Wastelands saga thing is crossover central. Basically all my crossover CD's banded together and formed one massive CD army that invaded my mind and threatened to sever my brainstem unless I started writing. Creativity Demons can be such vicious little b**tards, can't they? :)

Sevarius JR> You get those *can't think of a word bad enough for them* in Texas, and I'll get the truck. We'll take turns driving while the other one hangs out the back and throw broken glass behind us. *goes off into a corner and mutters several things better left unheard in a PG room about the Texas....individuals.* $I'd sugggest including Greaseman, but Doug and Kitania have already dealt with him.$

Character names> Ehhh, I have so much trouble choosing names for my characters. Some of them just pop into my head, which is wonderful, but most of the time I fry important brain cells trying to find a suitable name, and end up choosing a name I'm not ever sure is right.

What would I look like as a garg? Hmmm, I'd definately be taller, and I'd have the best set of wings possible. (Of course, I'm scared of heights, but I've always dreamt of being able to fly. Go figure.:))

Jaden> >Spice Girls-Could you imagine them showing up at Gathering99?< AAAAARRGH!!! Now _that_ would be scary! And pretty funny now that I think about it....ack! *a creativity demon hurls itself across the CR, and Fleur desperately swats it away.* No! There's no more room in my head and even if there was, I am _not_ doing a spice-girls- at-G99 story. No! Go away! *The CD slinks away.*

Everyone who said they liked my 'fic> *blushes* THANKS!

Wavelength> Hope you have a good spring break. Have fun!

Aris> >Brooklyn and Sata are smart enough to realise that they'd save time if they remained in the 90s rather than timehopping away once again.< Um I don't read much TD (not enough time, now _there's_ an irony.), but I thought Brooklyn and Sata didn't have any control over their timedancing. I don't think they _can_ just stop timedancing.

Heather and Robby> That picture is so cute, it should carry a warning 'this picture will result in a big sappy grin.' :) Kudos to Demona May. Man, what a talent.

James> Humans aren't stupid or worthless, nothing is. SJ said it better than me.

Kylynna> hehe. We luv you too.

Kiaoto> Well said.

Mary> I felt sick when I read your post. How could people do that to somebody who can't fight back. *starts muttering more bad words.*

Peter> Get well soon.

TTFN!

*RP? OH, WHY NOT?*
The Ravens, Fleur and Jaden finish fixing the Onslaught and climb in. Sitting in the back, Fleur searches her pockets for a spare powerpack for her laser cannon. Just as she finds one, Doug (who's driving) brakes sharply. The road in front of them has been blocked by what looks like a landslide.
"Guys," Jaden says suddenly, "I have a really bad feeling about this. I think Tracker is nearby."
At that moment, gunfire erupts from the surrounding foliage.
**END RP**
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 07:59:17 PM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

Question: will Khensu and Isfet show up in Manhattan any
time soon? That would be really interesting ...
weepinbell - [weepinbell70@yahoo.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 07:18:37 PM
IP: hil-c45-014-vty216.as.wcom.net

**BLUES BROTHERS 2000 SPOILERS?**

Just saw Blues Brothers 2000... Interesting movie... Had the feel of the original, but it lacked... Something... Maybe Princess Leia trying to kill them... Maybe the suits getting dirty and the being clean in the next shot... The really cool car chase through a mall... Perhaps its because all the plot points were wrapped up REAL easily with magic so they could have that half hour almost all musical finale and then there was no ending...

**END BLUES BROTHERS 2000 SPOILERS**

Kiato- Well made points, all of them.

Sizing people up like a slab of beef- I don't do this honestly, I'm too trained as an artist to study anatomy. I actually find myself checking to see how far down a person's elbow goes or how the muscles in their neck look when its turned and making a mental note of it as often as I pay attention to anything else. All of the... Ahem... Features a person may have are just taken in as exactly that. Features.

Mary- That's scary stuff, and just not right. Part of the reason being a garg seems like such a good idea at times.

Peter- Rotting Booger stage? Eeeew... Gross!

Hercules- I've started to like the move a lot more since the series came out.

Anyone else watching Alice In Wonderland tonight?

Coyote and Ravyn- Sure.

Wilek- You may have sever evil twins, but mine is just plain um... Not nice...

Zath- No clue where your name came from.

Selanit- I intend to sign up for that thingie, but the link you attached didn't work.

Teasers- I only like doing them when I have an actual part in the making of a story. Speaking of which...

IN FOUR DAYS...
Brooklyn and Sata encounter a fae trickster...


Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 05:54:56 PM
IP: spider-te034.proxy.aol.com

BRONX ANIMATED VID< Okey-dokie, people, the name of the school is the Art Institute of Philadelphia (do a search at Yahoo! It's usually very good). I sent an email on more info on the web page, should be getting a response on it within a day or two *crosses her fingers* Wish us all luck, fellow gargamaniacs!

<<uh, I don't know Spanish>>

*reddens* Oops! I'm so sorry, Blue Caeru! I must have gotten mixed up somewhere. I do that sometimes :)

Well, it's still good to at least understand Chinese. Helps you get around in another country by understanding the signs at least.

MANDI< AWESOME!!!! Scan the signed comic for us to see when you get it!

MARY FLANDERS< That's HORRIBLE! C'mon, what do people got against people who are different, anyway? It's bad enough a man was dragged behind a car solely because he's black, now some people are wary against retarded people? Sick. Sick, sick, sick...

SEVARIUS JR.'s TAKE ON 'BAD' HUMANS< *whistles* You go, man! I was just thinking that upon readings Jame's post, too :(
I'm not gonna add more to this, because SJ covered everything I would've wanted to say (sans the dolphins getting caught in nets part :D You're a sick man. That's why we like ya. :) )

Final Fantasy< "groundbreaking animation"? Yeah, I heard computers will digitize the characters so they'll look like real people. Awesome, eh?

PHYSICAL ATTRACTION< I heard this is basic instinct. I watched an interesting program over the summer about how looks attract a mate. Like why do women with curves usually attract dates better than women without. It's because curves send a signal to a male that she could easily carry a child without doing her body damage (I guess they mean curves mean there's more room for the baby to fit in that area of her body).

I don't think physical appearance should be the reason you go out with someone. I personally prefer someone who makes me laugh and who I can just hang out with :) But being attractive doesn't hurt. I think attraction is just so you notice a member of the opposite sex, and once you notice them, you introduce yourself and get to know them a bit better.

But physical beauty should never be the basis of a relationship. It'd be a really shallow one :(

Must run. Homework and posters to draw. It seems no one else in our school wants to work on art staff, save me, my co-editor, Joe, and two other art staffers. We're hoping by putting up posters, it'll attract artists.

Peace out :)
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 03:04:16 PM
IP: spider-tk033.proxy.aol.com

Quickie post, but I had to get this out of my system. You know how they say you're at most six people away from anyone in the world? Well, I got a call from my mom this morning, about two weeks after my stepdad Chris got back from Orioles Baseball Fantasy Camp in Florida. It seems that one of the guys Chris played with down there--they were right next to each other in the lineup--was Todd McFarlane. Yep, the guy who created Spawn. The only reason it took Mom so long to tell me was because she and Chris had never heard of him. I don't read Spawn, but I knew who he was! :)

Suffice to say, I'm now two degrees from him, and Chris gets to play a game in Camden Yards with the rest of the guys from the fantasy camp the weekend before the Gathering. I think I'll buy a comic just for him to autograph (if he'll agree to it), because that's going to be a great graduation present for a friend of mine.

Yeah, that's all. Like I said, I don't read Spawn, but I think some folks in here do, and I thought it was really funny.
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 01:11:32 PM
IP: 144.175.17.229

Decided to go back to Purple. ;)

Robby & Heather> Sorry I forgot to say this before, but that's a very lovely pic of you two. :)

SJ> Yeah, I liked Raven better when he was in ECW also. I thought his character was a lot more interesting there, and he got to do a lot of amazing matches.

Taleweaver> Cool names site! I'm gonna have to check it out in depth later. :)

Mary> That is just *sick* what those people did. Just plain *sick.* Nobody deserves to be treated like that. **growls and snarls**

Coyote> Yeah, last I saw (which was kind of a long time ago), Raven *had* lost control of his Flock. Don't know what happened to him after that, maybe I need to start watching Nitro every now and then since b-ball is over. :)
Oh...and thank you for the compliment on my handle and the *lovely* cyber-bouquet. You're such a sweet guy, and you'll always be handsome to me. :) **smiles and gives him a long, tight embrace** (happy now, Robby?) ;)

Deuce> I thought that Leo DeCaprio did a *very* good job in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape." I don't really like the guy much at all, but I *did* get a little more respect for his acting abilities after seeing that movie. He played a really difficult role really well.

Gen-X Movie> I remember seeing all the commericials for it and thinking about how cool it was gonna be to have a movie about Generation X. Then I actually *saw* the movie and found out that it wasn't as cool as I thought it would be. :( One of these days, somebody's gonna have to make a *good* Gen-X movie. ;)

Kitainia> I always thought that immortal Kenny from Highlander was still alive. I think that both times he came after Duncan, he got away. And I think in that second encounter, Kenny did try to get an immortal sea captain that had a grudge against MacLeod to kill Duncan for him, but Duncan killed the sea captain. Then Kenny went after Duncan, but I'm pretty sure he got away by using Amanda somehow. I might have that ep on tape somewhere; I'll try to find it and check it out if you want. But I always thought Kenny lived.

Well, I better leave before I start any trouble. ;) See y'all later!
Ravyn
Sunday, February 28, 1999 01:09:54 PM
IP: svm-ts5-1.c2i2.com

Sorry, no RP today.

Being a Garg: Hmmm, it would be neat if I could also be in the Gargoyle Universe. Otherwise I would just be considered a freak in the 'real world', no clan, people scream when they see me... I may be able to do well in the military though, if I can somehow join without being put into a lab!

****Shameless Plug*** I finally got my 3rd story finished! Took alot longer than I thought, and not just because of my modem problems!

Sharon Nomura has been having problems adjusting to her new life. And it doesn't help when she finds out what Takeo Kimura has been doing.

***End Shameless Plug***
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Sunday, February 28, 1999 10:45:05 AM
IP: xdialup42.mpls.uswest.net

Steve Gooch> Of course I do. I know Amanda was in it. Kenny was trying to use an old sea captain that Duncan know and turn the two against each other. Kenny was found out and chased to a city park then to an abanded wharehouse; (How convient), where Duncan took his head.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, February 28, 1999 09:21:44 AM
IP: dt043n83.san.rr.com

CRUSADE DEATH????: I thought they get nearly everything ready, the design, the costumes and even the first eps so why let they happen this? Is there a chance that another station will telecast the show? They can't let it disappear only because of some disputes. Don't they know that there are fans all over the world (I am one of them)? It was worse enought to look the last part of B5 but that this should be the end I can't imagine. I won't give up!
Gabriel
Sunday, February 28, 1999 06:36:13 AM
IP: ics1f.l.srv.t-online.de

*** ATTENTION!! SHAMELESS PLUG (BUT NOT FOR ME!) ***

Okay, this isn't your ordinary shameless plug. I'm not promoting a story I've written, or even anything gargoyles related. I'm promoting HARD SCIENCE! MU HA HA HA HA!!

How'd you folks like to help look for extraterrestrial cultures? Hmm? We need you. You have a resource we want: your computers. We want your spare processing power.

The biggest bottleneck in analyzing radio signals from the cosmos is processing power. There is so *much* information, it's simply impossible to analyze all of it, even with super-powerful computers like Cray XMPs.

But consider this. Collectively, the computers connected to the Internet form a supercomputer vastly, incomprehensibly more powerful than the most powerful supercomputer. Multiply the processing power of just 100,000 pentium-level systems and what do you get? Furthermore, your computers spend a lot of time doing nothing. They just sit there displaying screen savers, the digital equivalent of twiddling their thumbs.

In 1996, some astrobiologists noticed these things and put two and two together. "Why not," they said, "Why not program a screen saver that does something more useful than just display pretty phantasms of light? Why not program a screen saver that can download and analyze data from radio telescopes, looking for coherent transmissions from beyond our solar system?" They said this, and called it SETI@Home.

And having said so, they did. They assembled a team of astrobiologists and programmers. They spent the last couple of years scraping up funding and material. They appealed for coding help and got thousands of volunteers. They designed a server program to distribute the data, and made specialized recording systems to acquire the information.

The data is collected from the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico, where it is recorded on high-density magnetic tapes. The tapes are snail-mailed to the SERENDIP program at UC Berkley, where they are fed into the server program, which divides the data up into 250K chunks and distributes it to the participants for analysis. The nature of the experiment allows for incredibly more detailed analysis than anyone can get in real-time.

At last, the program is ready to launch. Final beta testing of the screen-saver program is in progress this month. It will be distributed to end users in April.

It occurs to me that this is the sort of thing that people like us care about. Look at our posts. Someone asked, "Would you like to be a gargoyle?" Several people said, "No, but I'd like to be their friends." We'd like to be their friends -- we'd like to be friends with people who aren't homo sapiens. In real life, we must look to the stars to find new friends.

Please, people, do this. It doesn't require any effort on your part. The program runs when you're not using your computer anyway, so it won't intrude on your work. The program only needs roughly 5 minutes worth of modem-time every few days to upload finished analyses and retrieve fresh data.

We will never find new friends if we don't go and look for them.

Click my name to visit the SETI@Home web site. Please, sign up to be notified when they begin distribution of the software. Please.

*** END SHAMELESS PLUG ***

And if you didn't read the preceding shameless plug, READ IT! SEVEN YEARS BAD LUCK TO THOSE AS DON'T! (Kidding -- only six years. <G>)
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 28, 1999 05:33:42 AM
IP: smith17-26.resnet.colorado.edu

Good Evening!

CR Text Colors> So the pink's good, huh? I like it, too (I look good in pink ;o). I'm glad it's readable. Myself, I have a hard time focusing on the darker blue text for some reason, not that I want anyone to change colors or anything...I'll manage. =o)

Robby> Ooh, teasers!?? *laughs* I know I love 'em!

Thing about Physical Attractions> Personally, I seem to not be able to be attracted to someone unless I know them pretty well. Usually, I have to be good friends with them before starting any kind of relationship. And I'd never like someone just based on looks. And even with Billy Corgan (The Sexiest Bald Man Alive), with whom I'm infatuated with ;o) - most of the reason is because of his personality, intelligence, and song-writing capabilities (plus, I seem to be drawn to guys with big egoes). And he's tall. <g>
...
...All right, I'm done swooning...you can look now.

Coyote> Interesting about the "Death of a Salesman" lighting thing. Though, knowing me, I'd be far from finished crying just over that minute period before they turned the house lights back on... but still, it's a cool tradition. And good for those guys who still have masculinity issues ;o)

Well, I found a couple other quotes that were just floating around on a notecard for some reason on my desk...

"Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans."
--John Lennon

"Who am I? Why am I here? Forget the question someone give me another beer!"
--Meat Loaf
(Heh, heh - when my ex-boyfriend asked for one of my senior pictures, I wrote this one on the back of it..)

Well, that's all I have to say. Now I just cross my fingers and hope my computer doesn't freeze up when I send this..

~Jill
jILLybEAn - [jbruhn@bendnet.com]
Bend, Oregon
Sunday, February 28, 1999 04:19:41 AM
IP: b153.bendnet.com

Doug< i sent part one..of four for that song. If it gets through to U EM me so i know to send the others ok?
**Spoilers**:)
If i could be a garg. This i have thought about a lot. I look at it in two ways. Is this IRL tommorrow at work some guy shows up and says, "I am here to grant you a wish..would ya like to be a garg" well, no. Obviously it wouldn't work out well with other ppl ya know. If you mean in the gargoyles universe HECK YA lex hasn't been taken yet:) Anyway. Gargs have it nice. True, they dont have our material wants..but those things are not very good in some cases anyway. Just think. You are hatched into a community. A loving clan. Everyone watches over you and treats you eqaul. Even Females can achive leadership status. If you do meet someone as a mate. It is most likely going to last your whole life...(goliath and Demona are exceptions) It just is an idealistic thought for me i guess. Gargs arn't like humans..they dont wage war on eachother..why would you want to fight your own ppl?? They are deeper then us in meny respects i think. Also gotta give a thumbs up on the fitness..i mean hey..even chubby gargs are fit. I wouldn't mind their matabolism or lifstyle. As for a downside..fighting crime..wouldn't really be my cup of tea. But you could argue if you were born or hatched that way, then it would be a way of life..something embeded in your genes..so i dont think it would be a real bother. Missing Human life?? well, like i said..if you were always..it isn't as hard to miss the other side. Though the grass is greener on the other side of the fence i hear. And if you look at Lexington, as a quick example, there is some that yern as we do to be gargs..to be human. I think Lex would be a pretty good human actaully. He has the skill and enjoys the challenges. I can see him really getting a kick out of attending school, and going on to something technical. Plus, more girls that share in his interests..THIS is of course if he were always human..i cant say he wouldn't miss being a garg..im sure he'd just like to get his talons wet..then go back with his clan to use his new found knowledge.
**END SPOILERS**
Lexy - [lex@hnet.net]
city of meanselfrighteousbackstabbingsnobyishppl, WI:P , US of A
Sunday, February 28, 1999 03:41:33 AM
IP: d084.hnet.net

Hey all,

Doug > Chapter three's up, linked in below. Enjoy!

Rants about intolerant bigots > I'd rather not get involved in this topic, but I will say that I have tolerance for everyone else on this planet, save for those who don't have tolerance and some special cases. It's the people that hate for ignorant, intolerant reasons that make me the angriest. Even worse are the Castaway-types, that take their hate out in a violent manner, not caring who gets hurt in the crossfire.

I'm gonna read and not respond to the rants about Iraq, not because I have anything against the authors, but because I don't want to bore anybody with a lengthy response that'd probably go right up there with Traveler's novel-length posts.

Coyote > <A loud report is heard from the tank turret, as it sends four cans of Molson arcing toward the assault chopper.> Tank Girl?

Kitainia RE Kenny > Well, my roomie's pretty reliable when it comes to that show, but he could be wrong. But he's positive that Kenny was only in two episodes, and he lived through both. The second time, Duncan was prepared to kill him, but Amanda told him, "If you take his head, get ready to lose yours" or something like that.

James > Do you remember anything else about the episode you say he died in?

==People are more vocally opposed to fur than leather because it's easier to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.==

'Night all
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Sunday, February 28, 1999 03:24:19 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

NO RP TONIGHT!

Character names- I don't know why but the name Jaden has always just been in the back of my mind. Until I got onto the Internet I thought I had made up the name.

Heather-That's a great picture.

Becoming a Gargoyle-I've wondered about this for awhile. If I was ever given the chance I would say yes. I was never very fond of the sun...hurts my eyes sometimes. I think it would be the best thing to happen. I know some of you are thinking "What about the down-side of becoming a garg?" Well all I can say is that you have to take the good with the bad.

Well I got work in the morning.
See ya later!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Sunday, February 28, 1999 02:36:55 AM
IP: pm0-47.vpop1.avtel.net

Zath> <<What, no one wants to try and guess where my name came from?>> Well...all I can think of is Zathras from Babylon 5, but that can't be right...
Wilek
Sunday, February 28, 1999 02:00:53 AM
IP: tnt-1-221-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hey, someone left a perfectly good scythe lying around in here. **Zath picks up SJ's scythe and uses it to hack up Mr. DC. When the pieces become too small to slice, Zath uses the butt of the scythe to smash the bits into a fine red paste. Kitty runs in and rolls in the mess, leaving behind large amounts of white and brown fur in DC's remains. When he recovers, he's going to be spitting up hair balls for a while. >: )** That's what you get for crashing Netscape and cutting off my connection half a dozen times.

What, no one wants to try and guess where my name came from? Okay, I'll raise the prize to 42 cyber cookies, three cyber doughnuts, and a cyber gumball. Someone has to have a guess.

Wilek> I've seen Lawnmower Man 2, but I thought it was kind of silly. What's really interesting is comparing the movies to the original Stephen King short story. There's so little resemblance (even less than the resemblance between the story and the movie of Jonny Mnemonic) King had his name taken off the project. <<He should be BOILED IN HIS OWN BLOOD>> But if you got enough blood to boil him, it would either kill him so he couldn't enjoy the experience, or it would take a really long time to collect a little at a time. How about boiling him in all his body fluids other than his blood?

Argent> I sympathize with your dental problems. In junior high I had to get an adult tooth (one of my fangs) taken out before it even started showing because it was coming in between my two front teeth, and sooner or later I have to get my wisdom teeth out too.

Brooklyn's character development> Actually, it seems to me that he's actually gone downhill in some respects. He used to usually need a good reason to get mad (unless Demona was involved) now all someone has to do is call him a name and he completely flips out, going into a blind rage. You'd think someone with as much experience as he supposedly has would know that running straight at a fey and trying to punch it isn't going to accomplish very much.

Coyote> <<**A loud report is heard from the tank turret, as it sends four cans of Molson arcing toward the assault chopper.**>> That reminds me of an idea I had for a fic that involved someone shooting Demona out of the air with a homemade potato gun. Some day I hope to get around to writing it, but it probably won't happen any time soon.

SJ> <<if dolphins are so damn smart, how come they always get caught in the nets>> I actually read a sci-fi book once where the dolphins did it on purpose because, lacking hands, suicide was the only way they could cause any change in their environment other than eating fish. It was a really strange book since, in addition to everything else, it was an alternate history where the USSR won the cold war using trained dolphins to sink American subs.

Garg Songs> Most of the ones I thought of have already been mentioned, except for one by the Descendants which part of it makes me think of Demona. I think the song is called "Get The Time" and the part I'm thinking of goes something like "Will there come a day when you give up and turn away, and I'd have nothing left except I'd have all of the time in the world, all of the time in the world, time to remember, and look through the window, time to cry..." It's been a while since I last heard the song, but I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. I always picture Demona out in the rain watching Goliath and Elisa hugging while the rest of the clan plays with new hatchlings.

Random Useless Trivia> Today on the discovery channel there was a show that claimed in addition to dust mites, eyebrow mites, and such, there is also such thing as a cheese mite. I kid you not.
Zath
Sunday, February 28, 1999 01:50:19 AM
IP: ns1-14.viptx.net

**RP. WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO, THAT'S WHY.**

[Wilek is just arriving on the bridge. He greets the team, who's still there, then goes to an internal security console and uses the DS's internal sensors to locate any radiation spikes indicative of more nuclear bombs. The bomb he just left is gone; apparently the security team he called took care of it. Wilek sees that there are five more bombs. Wilek: "Come on, ppl, we have exposives to get rid of!" But where's the rest of the evil team?...]

**PAUSE RP!**

Mary> <gasp> <grr> Even my nastily creative mind cannot think of revolting and objectionable enough deaths for these reprehensible pieces of <censored>. Who in their right mind--they weren't in their right minds, and I don't mean the fun sort of insanity that we have embraced either. Words fail me. >8(

Peter> <<Unfortunately, I am currently in what I like to call the "rotting booger" stage of recovery where it smells like something crawled up my nose and died.>> ewwwwww

Taleweaver> Kewl names site. (I found out that my own first name is a variant of 'Wilhelm'. Feh.)

SJ> <<And BTW, if dolphins are so damn smart, how come they always get caught in the nets, huh?>> They don't see well, and nets don't show up on sonar.

Robby and SJ> So you two have evil twins. Hm, you're lucky; I have *four* of the things.

**RESUME RP!**

[Meanwhile, *here's* the evil team, just entering the computer control room. W. Fieger I: "The chip, please..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, February 28, 1999 01:38:20 AM
IP: tnt-1-68-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

(yawns) That's very nice Servirous Jr. yada yada yada. I know I am am human and like I said I wouldn't be anything else for anything. I am proud of who I am and despite what you say animals are better than people. I never claimed they were smarter. Ignorance is bliss. They are at peace with the world. Yes they would pollute if they were as smart as us but I am glad they are stupid. I think that makes them supior to us. Knowledge is power and power corupts therefore our smartness makes us a corupt specious. (faint smile)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, January 1, 2000 12:02:43 AM
IP: dt043n83.san.rr.com

***RP SPOILERS****
"Alright, alright!" SJ says. "I believe you! You're the real thing!"
"Good, we're glad," Anoth says. "Now do you mind pointing that flamethrower somewhere else?"
"Oh, sorry," SJ says sheepishly. "Things have been kinda stressful lately. I mean, I thought I killed all those damn clones with that virus.....Damn those Fiegers! They reproduce like jackrabbits!"
****END RP FOR NOW****

*SJ takes a break from the RP, and marches into the Comment room. He's wearing a black robe, and carrying a scythe.*
Well, I really hate doing so, but I'm playing the Angel of Death tonight. Two have departed us. The first, we have not known, the other we only knew for a short time.

CRUSADE IS DEAD. Hey, all you Babylon 5 fans! Weren't you saddened that B5 ended? Yeah, me too. But weren't you excited that there was going to be a spin off show called Crusade? How the last B5 movie, "A Call To Arms", even set up the storyline? Well, guess what?
The <Censored for your protection> at TNT have canceled the show. BEFORE IT'S EVEN AIRED. You see, Crusade should have started IN JANUARY. But TNT wanted to wait "until the NBA strike cleared up, so we can know what to program". So Crusade was to air this summer. Well, if you've been in the "know", you'd know that TNT has been dicking with JMS and the whole Crusade team since day one. They didn't like the set, they didn't like the costumes. Then there was the great "Memo War", wherein TNT reportedly wrote to JMS and asked him to add lots more "alien gunfights" and "alien sex". JMS stood his ground. Well, TNT had the last laugh, and now the show's DEAD. <BLEEP> you, TNT. <BLEEP> you, Ted Turner, you <BLEEEEEEEP>in' redneck.

And, alas, we must also lay to rest our dear friend CUPID. We knew it was canceled by ABC. Well, the word is out: Cupid will not be renewed. AND it will not be picked up by any other network. So congratulations, ABC, you destroyed the BEST new show this season. <BLEEP> you too.

The only good news I can give you is that Brimstone will resume airing next Friday. It's just repeats, folks, but tune in. If the ratings improve, we may forestall the reaper!
*SJ takes off the robe and ditches the scythe*

James: That's a horrible, disturbing thing to say!
First off, I'm not trying to be mean or get on anyone's case here, but I'm getting pretty sick and tired with Movies/Books/TV shows that always focus on how horrible humans are, what jerks humans are, how the world would be a better place without us. Let me tell them something, a big revelation: YOU ARE HUMAN.
I have no problem with people wanting to be Gargoyles, or Fey, or dragons, or what have you. Everyone of us has a desire to be something greater than we are, to be perfect. Why else have religion? Is it not, in some way, the search for meaning and perfection? Why do you think Adam and Eve ate from the Tree? They thought it would make them as gods.
But I have a real problem with those who think that humans are inferior. YES we are flawed. YES we are imperfect. But we are, like it or not, the most advanced for of life known.(key word being known) We have dominion over this earth. Does that mean we should trash it and destory it as we destory ourselves? Certainly not. But, for better or worse this world is ours.
Animals don't pollute the earth because they lack the intelligence to do so. If they were the dominant life-form, if they had the same mental capacity as we do, don't you think THEY might ALSO pollute the earth? If they are the same as us, it's a fair guess they share some of our same flaws.
In my opinion, to betray humanity is to betray the self. We are imperfect, but we are what we are. We must strive to be better, to "evolve", but until then, like it or not, this is who we are. Sorry if I offended anyone in this post. I certainly don't want to start a flame war. I just think people are being unjustly harsh on humans. We can't be gods, or even gargoyles. We're just what we are, and if that is a bunch of savages, than that is who we are. We must try to become better than that, but until we do, we can't change it. We must all attempt to be the best we can be in our own lives.

And BTW, if dolphins are so damn smart, how come they always get caught in the nets, huh? ;-p

Caroylnn: I've heard about the Final Fantasy movie. Some folks are saying it's gonna be huge, making groundbreaking changes to animation. Don't know until I see it though.

Coyote: "Quoth the Raven, Nevermore." That guy's cool, but he was much better in the lesser known federation ECW (that's "Extreme Championship Wrestling" to you non-rednecks out there). At least in ECW he got to shed a little blood!

Sorow: "A Tale of Two Cities" is a GREAT novel! Ah, Sydney Carton, you're the man!

Desire: Well, we're all genetically programmed since birth to like that which is attractive, and that's constantly enforced during our life. Still, I agree, a person is beautiful not just because of their physical appearance, but because of their inner self. I known a few girls that I'd die to go out on a date with lookswise, but personality wise.....pit bulls, my friend. Thankfully, I'm blessed with a great little lady who's lovely both on the outside and in. :)
Jim Carrey, to his son in "Liar, Liar."
Son: "My teacher said real beauty lies on the inside."
Jim: "Oh, that's just something ugly people say."

Pinky & The Brain/Pokemon commercial: Has anyone seen this? LOL! ROTFLMAO!!!
Ash, staring at Pinky and the Brain: "Gee, what kind of Pokemon are those?"
Pinky: "But Brain, I don't want to be a Pokemon!"
Brain: "Quiet, Pinky! Once we capture all of them, we can rule the world!"

Avengers: Hot on the tale of my Spider-man post, It looks like the folks at Marvel are making an "Avengers" 'toon show. And guess what? It looks like it SUCKS worse than the new Spidey show. Click on my name to check it out.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 11:27:18 PM
IP: 207-172-35-214.s214.tnt9.brd.erols.com

Hmm, since I'm official room DJ now, guess I gotta say this by itself. Um, any requests? I'll do my best to locate anything asked for, but no promises.
Robby
Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:51:32 PM
IP: spider-wm064.proxy.aol.com

Surprisingly, I don't really have anything to say. Ummm...I started reading "A Tale of Two Cities" this weekend for school and went to rehearsal, but that's about it. I hope everyone is having a great weekend and I personally cannot wait until the new ep. Sweet dreams everyone...if you ever sleep :)
SOROW
Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:49:45 PM
IP: usr1-2-dialup9.mix1.irving.cw.net

Character Names> http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/index.htm
I remember Kathy mentioning this site before as far as finding names. It's impressive, have names and their meanings from around the world.

Garg or Human> I prefer being a dragon. Best of all possible worlds. Get to fly. Hang out in the day time. Though I don't go in for that virgin sacrifices. That's propaganda perpetuated by the Dragonslaying elitists and the Illuminati. (Sorry, conspiracy tangent) But the best thing about being a dragon is I get to be in that nebulous grey area. There's always good and evil, but a dragon doesn't necessarily fall into either one. That and you can also char-broiler anyone who gets in your face. Always a plus.
Bon Weekend
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 09:37:47 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

Mandi Ohlin> Yes ACE OF BASE has a new allbum out and their new CD is titled "CRUEL SUMMER."

About the upcoming episode of Buffy I do not know when that episode episode will be airing.

Lawrence Stone - [st1@bright.net]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Saturday, February 27, 1999 08:50:55 PM
IP: chil-ras3-1-cs-4.dial.bright.net

**RP!!**

**The screen lights up to reveal ... Coyote, Ravyn and party, with camp set up beside a long, desolate freeway in the middle of New Mexico. Charlotte has her top up, as everyone sits around a campfire in the night.**

Who wants the first watch?

**Everyone takes a step ... backwards.**

Oh-kay ... guess that means I take the first watch. Get some rest, I'll get the next watch up in about a couple of hours.

<"All right.">

**Jason leads Jimmie, Susie and Lucy, and Charlie away from the fire and toward the tent set up by the tank. Buick jumps into the Commander's Seat of the tank and settles into the seat itself. Coyote pulls out his laptop and starts tapping away at his Web browser again. At that moment, Ravyn returns to the campsite.**

<"Where'd everyone go?">

**looks up** Went to bed, actually. You're more than welcome to, yourself, I've taken the first watch.

**Ravyn sits down next to Coyote.** <"I'll watch with ya.">

Really, you don't have to ...

<"But I want to. No reason why you should be all by your lonesome out here, it's a cold night.">

**Ravyn slides closer to Coyote's side.**

**PAUSE RP!!**

New fic: It's up. Click on my name link, even if "You're Not Cleared For That."

GargCode: Composed one for myself ... it's now proudly displayed on my Website. Go nearly to the bottom of my main page (the Castle) to view it.

jILLybEAn: Y'know, there's a theatrical tradition involving "Death of a Salesman" involving the house lights. The tradition is that the house lights stay down for a minute after the final curtain before coming up ... the reason being to allow the men in the audience to dry their eyes and save their dignities.
Of course, it's totally archaic in this day and age of men comfortable with their emotions ... but it's been done that way for *decades.*

Starsinger: Nope, that would be Tina Majorino, she played the President's daughter in "ID4."

Mary Flanders: Yeesh ... now *that* is truly evil. Those people are sick, twisted, and should be hog-tied and forced to endure the same thing they put that poor man through. That's horrible.

Deuce: **applauds** I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiments on beauty. **takes the opportunity to give a cyber-bouquet t Ravyn. (happy, Robby? :)**

**RESUME RP!!**

**Coyote sets down the computer, checking his pistol's magazine.**

<"Not much on the Web tonight?">

Nope ... still haven't found anything on Jimmie's abduction. As much as it pains me, I'm starting to think you're right and that his folks did sell him.

<"That's so sad ...">

Yeah. It is. Which might mean we're just going into a rattler's den for naught. **sighs** I just hope ... that Jimmie can find a family that will love him ... just the way he is.

**Coyote becomes a bit emotional ... physical shortcomings being a soft spot for him, knowing what it's like to be an outcast for the way he looks. Ravyn pulls him into a hug as the fire flickers on and the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, February 27, 1999 08:45:30 PM
IP: 207.91.254.52

No RP, no Blaisism. I'm tapped out. Time to play catch-up again...really, REALLY long post to come...

CR Colors and pics> I just picked Yellow because it was easy to see (unlike the really dark burgundy that I have to highlight the text to read without getting a headache! Please stick with pink, Jillybean (I can read it!) :)

Heather> That pic of you and Robby is so adorable!

**REAL MINOR TGS SPOILERS**

Brooklyn and Sata> I've got to agree with Deuce's rant on that subject. I don't think "Sun and the Serpent" made Brooklyn and Sata's relationship questionable. If you recall Brooklyn's dream with him being pulled along by the river (i.e. the Timestream) and having to pass on Maggie, Corrinne and Meryt, he ended up with Sata because out of those he's fallen for, she's the only one who's been willing to leave her home to Timedance along with him. He really can't just settle down and ditch the Gate, so Sata alone has accepted that and put Brooklyn above any desire to remain with her home, with what's familiar. And yes, she has had a positive influence on him.

As for Brooklyn being selfish--well, he obviously met Meryt in his travels before Sata, and he learned from that experience that he can't give up the Gate if he wants to, that history is immutable and he's pretty much stuck as the Timedancer. So when "The Promise" rolled around, he knew that he couldn't stay in Ishimura with her. Everything that happened to him with Meryt before pretty much hammered that home for Brooklyn. But he didn't selfishly push Sata into coming with him--far from it. I quote from the episode:

His look broke her heart. "I love you too much to take away all the things that are precious to you - your clan, the village, all of Ishimura - I can't take this away from you again. I will not break your vow."

Selfish? Umm...no. We haven't yet seen a situation where Brooklyn has to and does sacrifice something that major for Sata.

I think the real reason why people have questioned their romance is because we really did NOT get to see it grow over the course of several episodes before they actually got married. We only got three episodes: "Buccaneer," "Fleeting Encounters," and "Daylight." While "Fleeting Encounters" was supposed to give the impression of a long timespan and a lot of Timedancing together, it still seemed sort of abrupt when we hit "The Promise." I wish that episode could have been put off in favor of more episodes watching their relationship develop, even if it meant waiting for Season 2. (Of course, then "Sun and Serpent" wouldn't have been the opener, and if it was, Brook would have had a lot more trouble deciding between Meryt and Sata, yada yada yada. Hindsight is so much fun, isn't it?)

**notices that several Season 1 TGS staffers have been giving her LOOKs** Well, okay, I wasn't there, but that's just the impression I got!

**END MINOR SPOILERS**

Lawrence> First off: Ace of Base has a third album out? You've got to be kidding me! I thought they broke up!

And about the Buffy episode plugs--I really wish you wouldn't just come out and tell us about next week's episode as if you're the only one who knows. Usually, we find out in the "Next Week" promo after new episodes. In this case, however, the WB affiliate in my area did *not* show a next week promo after "Doppelgangland" aired. (Hey, I'm not kidding about the title--I got it from the Transcript archive off of Slayerfanfic.com.)

So as far as "Enemies" is concerned, thank you. I appreciate the info since it wasn't presented to me before. Please don't take my earlier comment badly--that was just a little thing that's been bugging me for a while now.

Jewel> I got the joke right off, if that makes any difference. Also going to an all-girls school (residentially, anyway) kind of helps. :) The Hood shirt I have that I like ("Sex kills" is better) says: "We don't go to a girls' college without men...we go to a women's college without boys." *snerk*

I hope you feel better, and I did read part four of "Apokalypsis." Not a lot of action, but wow, was it ever emotionally effective. I loved the character development, especially Demona's thoughts on Christine.

**WARNING! MINOR RANT!**

*sigh* I too wish I went to Bryn Mawr. Hood has a few interesting traditions, but the campus body has just gotten a lot more apathetic and preppie. Would it kill some of these people to at least check out Women's Leadership Day for five minutes and show their support? I wasn't involved, I was sick, but I showed up to support the organizers (including one friend who was driving herself crazy over it) and listened to the keynote speaker before having to stumble back to bed. It was a Saturday, nothing else was going on, the healthy folks on campus who didn't show had no excuse.

Sorry. No one seems to care here. Although of course everyone's going to pitch in for Spring Parties Weekend...yeesh...

**RANT ENDS**

Turning into a Gargoyle> Realistically, no, I wouldn't. I'd miss the sun way too much, and even a deal like Demona's would be out. Having a lot of friends who are Gargoyles, Fey, whatever would be nice.

Doug> So it *is* going to be Matt? All right! That I can't wait to see. Sorry about classes on your birthday.

Contact lenses> I used to have a cosmetic contact to cover up my bad left eye (I have a keyhole pupil in my left eye, so I'm legally blind in that one) and it worked pretty well, but when I got to college I forgot to wear it as often as I used to, and it dried up. :) The contact never really bothered me, but that eye's not so sensitive anyway. My bad eye doesn't concern me as much as it used to; I'm not so self-conscious about it, and all it keeps me from doing is: get a pilot's license, see 3-D movies, change lanes without turning my head all the way around to see in my blind spot, and drive a car without two outside mirrors. (Can I drive? Yes. Do I drive that often? No.)

Fleur> I read "Welcome to the Wastelands"--and now I have to go read "New Beginnings" since I didn't really understand what was going on! Oops. But confusion notwithstanding, I liked what I read.

Kitania> 8mm was good? Hm, the trailer didn't look that great...I'll have to add that to my list of flicks to see at the $2 theatre over breaks.

SOROW> And "Blast From the Past" is another one. :) Alicia Silverstone actually looks appealing in that one, I like Brendan Fraser, and having Dave Foley in a bit part caps it off for me. (Chris Walken plays Fraser's dad in that, right?)

And to bring my ramblings back to Gargoyles...the checking account discontinuity is straightened out. I mailed my registration for G99 Friday morning, so it's now official. Having said that, is there ANYONE here going to the Gathering who would be flying from Baltimore/Washington Intl. Airport? And if so, to pacify Mom, would you mind setting it up so that we go on the same flight and she doesn't have a heart attack worrying?

Last note: Yep, Bob Kiwi is still linked--this time directly to the Comic Universe page. I confessed what I've been doing to Jen, and she told me to plug gratuitously because she's hit a block on the script. In a really bad place to run out of ideas. She wants ideas, so she told me to keep on plugging.

And I'm done. I probably should have used this time to write that stupid paper due Monday, but this was more fun. :)
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 08:33:09 PM
IP: 144.175.17.229

Well, the CD store actually let me return the New Radicals CD! I'm now listening to "Perfect", which I think describes the whole CD. Even my sister (Ms. Hanson-BSB-Sky) likes it! [Mikey likes it! And he hates EVERYTHING!]

Wilek> ["Only one thing more is needed: some mention of 'insanity as the path to happiness'."] Oh, good one. I'll add that.

Kaioto> Excellent point, which is why I hate hard pornography (nude scenes in movies are different, sometimes). One thing I've noticed is that a person's physical appearance is nothing like their inner self, and that beauty really IS in the eye of the beholder. Last year, I went out with a girl that "society" would view as plain, or unattractive. As I got to know her better, I found her to be quite lovely. When I say an actress is "cute", I basically mean that she looks good; God has given her the gift of beauty. I know nothing of her true self, and it's a toss-up to whether or not I'd even like her as a person.

To make a long story short: I view physical appearance and "inner self-ness" (for lack of a better term) separately.

Kitainia> I'm SURE it's good for your mental health; I was talking about the physical side, though. *wicked grin*

Mary Flanders> Those are some sick bastards. I hope they rot in hell.

Hercules: I remember seeing that movie at an all-night church party. As a result, my memories are blurry and tinged with whipped cream. :-P

** leaves, maiming DC on the way out. I still can't get into my e-mail. **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Saturday, February 27, 1999 07:45:38 PM
IP: ppp165.connect.ab.ca

The Disney Channel is showing Hercules tonight at eight mountain time.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 07:20:41 PM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net

Sorry, Hit the enter key too soon

Gabriel>Your welcome, I was happy to help help you out

I got very sick with the flu(I had a fever and a cold) on Monday and have been recovering for most of the week. Unfortunately, I am currently in what I like to call the "rotting booger" stage of recovery where it smells like something crawled up my nose and died.
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, February 27, 1999 06:05:31 PM
IP: abb-53-0250.direct.ca

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Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 05:59:40 PM
IP: abb-53-0250.direct.ca

Hi you all,
Thought the first should be a very warm "thank you" and a enormous hug to Peter Bijl because he e-mailed me the last part of sun and serpent. You can't imagine how happy I was. Thank you very much

ZATH/ DEUCE: Two more fantastic poems. As i think Zaths was more poetical, Deuces realy fits to true life, but I love them both.

AGE: I am a 17 old female with blonde hair and green eyes and next year I am going to study biology.

NAMING CHARAKTERS: This is sometimes a problem for me because I want a special name which fits to the person, but more often i take names from old legends and tales, e.g. Gabriel after the archangel

MALIBU: Nice pic, but you know they should be happy in this moment so why these tears?

LOOK LIKE A GARG: Well, this is one of my main wishes, because they are so strong and just, althought I fear the hight so I think I wouldn' t fly to often. I would be a light-blue female with silvery hair and a near-human shape and perhaps some splittered wings. Mm... I like the imagine. Perhaps I am going to draw it.

JASON/ BRIAN: Welcome and as the others said stay if you want to have a lot of fun.

KYRYN: I think to read a lot of books is one of the few ways to reach wisdom and as for the number I think I have nearly the same (Xanth too).

SONGS: Does anyone knows Blackmores Night? Well, they performed a song I think it realy fits to TD. Its called "The clock ticks on" and it goes like this:

Sing the song of land from far away
other times and another place
the wind can carry us all away from here
charmed in her embrace...

HEATHER AND ROBBY: WOW, thats a great pic of you by Demona. You make a fine couple.

*****SPOILER/COMMENT SUN AND SERPENT4*******
Now, this was realy surprising. Kenshu is Harthot and they are still alive as Meryt and the dragons. This means only one thing: There has to be another, future tense part of it. But it was a great story and i can't wait to see all again (Mm... perhaps without Isfet).
*****END*************

If someone wants he can kill Mr.DC for me, twice times. This is now the second time i write this. And I think these 90% are his work too. So please feel to do it, very painful if possible.

ARIS: I think there was a little mistake in you thoughts. Brooklyn and Meryt become only so close in this short time because Brook remembered her the first time he met her. And there she was only gargoyle around. And as the others said Sata was the true love of him.

DEUCE: Thanks for the intro. Now i know a little bit more about this fabulous place I like very much.

SJ: I agree with you about humans. They are destroyers and warmakers and murder and all in all not very lovely but I think especialy as we are humans we have to come along with it and there are a few good people too.

ROBBY: You like to do this eh? Only give them a small piece and look what happen. Sometimes you realy outbid your evil twin.

Well, this was a very long post today, althought I don' t want to outbid Traveler in the running contest.
So I say CIAO



Gabriel
Saturday, February 27, 1999 05:17:16 PM
IP: ics3f.l.srv.t-online.de

Kenny I mean. He was killed by Duncan alright
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, February 27, 1999 04:00:46 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

Kitinia the immortal from Hilander show is dead. I saw the episode
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, February 27, 1999 04:00:04 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

I thank everyone for their praise. It makes me blush (A neat trick when you have blue scales) But I also want to share the praise with Aaron Ziegler and Beth Mahsburn my editors, Amber who did all the illustrations and Pat Toman, whose head of the entire endeavor. They put as much effort in to this as I. My name maybe on the credits, but they were the behind the scenes folks who made it great. Thanks for a great job guys.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 03:21:48 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

Hello. Oh boy, I think this will be a long post.

Fleur> Comments on your story will be included in the email... whenever I get around to answering it sometime today. *sheepish grin*

Doug> I'll email you my comments too.

Carolynn> Oops... uh, I don't know Spanish. Sorry I gave you the impression I did. I just know English and Chinese (which I can only understand, and not speak), and I took a couple of years of high school Latin (not that I actually remember much of it). English is the only language I am fluent in. Hope I cleared that up. *embarrassed*

Jewel> I understood the joke. :-) BTW, I hope you feel better soon. Being sick is no fun when you've got classes to go to and study for, I know.

Argent> Ick, the teeth thing isn't so great either... good luck. I've had four premolars (for my braces; I have big teeth, I guess), a baby tooth (it was stubborn), and four wisdom teeth pulled out. I went under for the wisdom teeth - the only time I've been actually unconscious. When I got out, my uncle told me I looked drunk. *grin*

jILLybEAn> That Socrates quote is one of my favorites!

Selanit> I agree with your rant. The sanctions aren't working because Saddam Hussein obviously doesn't care about what happens to the people of Iraq. Why make them suffer even more? It has been in place for years already, and nothing has happened. I don't think it is right, but I also have to ask if there are any other feasible alternatives.

Kaioto> About your "objects of desire" rant: Well-said, and I agree with you. I wish more people felt that way. I probably sound hypocritical since I did post that list of attractive males, but I didn't mean that they were my ideals and that any guys I date _have_ to look like that; they are just actors I think are attractive.
I see you've been waxing poetic again *smiles*... I think the verses are fitting, and very nice.

Daria: I still haven't seen it, but friends say I am like her. I can be sarcastic and deadpan, but I find those are difficult to communicate through a computer. :-)

Contact lenses: Ick, I had those for a very brief period of time, and I didn't like them. My eyes were constantly being irritated by something, and I found the upkeep tedious. Now I just wear my glasses (even though I don't like the way I look with them), but my vision isn't so bad that I can't see anything without them. So, I won't go back to contacts until my eyesight gets so bad I can't see anything.

If I could be a Gargoyle: Well, that would depend on the situation, so I really don't know. Or maybe I just have crummy decision-making skills. *grin*

RP's: I was reading the ones for this week, and I'd like to tell the people doing RP's that you are all doing a great job. Lots of plot developments.

Whew. I'm almost afraid to see how long this post is! Bye!
Blue Caeru
Saturday, February 27, 1999 02:15:55 PM
IP: ppp-10-ts28.nerdc.ufl.edu

I came apon this yesterday at dinner in the newspaper. It's so sad.

TORTURE OF RETARDED MAN SHOCK TOWN
KEANSBURG, N.J.- They came looking for him at McDonald's, just before he got off work. They invited him to come to a party, where he could meet a pretty girl.
Clutching the stuffed whale he carried with him everywhere, the 23-year-old retarded man eagerly followed, happy to be included in a circle of people he wanted to call his freinds.
It was all a cruel trick, authorities say. At least 14 people were waiting for him at Keansburg apartment. As he walked in the door, they grabbed him in a chokehold,cut off his McDonald's tie ans ripped his beloved toy to shreds.
Prosecutors allege Eric Krochmaluk's attackers then taped him to a lawn chair and tossed lighted cigarettes into his mouth-and kept on torturing him gor three hours.
A week after nine men and women were charged in the attack, people in this blue collar Jersey Shore town speak of the aimlessness of it's young people, underage drinkers who raise havoc in a wooded area called "The Pit," and the lack of recreational opportunities for young adults.
But no one can fathom the rage and cruelty that led to this.
"I just don't thik that they know what to do with themselves and they don't care what they do," 69-year-ol Ellen Park said as she bough lottery tickets at a convenience store. "I'm sure you can find better things to do than go around torturing people."
The Jan. 30 attack is drawing comparisons to the 1989 gang rape in Glen Ridge of a retarded teenager by popular atheletes who sewually assaulted her with a broomstick and basebal bat.
"There are people out there that prey on the vunlerable," said Tom Baffuto, director of the Arc of New Jersey, an advocacy group for mentallyhandicapped. "This is the dark side of society."
Although Krochmaluk graduated from vocational-technical school with honors, family members describe him as having the emotional and mental capacity of a 15-year-old. He is deaf in one ear and has a heart murmur.
But he enjoys the same heavy-metal music as his alleged attackers, some of whom he knew from his Middletown High School days, and he attended some of their parties. One suspect, 22-year-old Marmi Solomon, is a former girlfreind, Monmouth County prosecutors say.
The young man may have offended the tough, tight-knit group by spilling a drink on someone at a New Year's Eve party.
Two weeks later, authorities contend, some of the suspects grabbed him at another party and forced him to wear a bra. Krochmaluk called his father, who persuaded them to let his son go. No one called the polive.

How could someone do something like that!?! The scary thing for me is that I used to live in Middletown. If I had stayed there, the nightmare of my grammar school days that I had here in California would have been three times as terrible and four time as long. Right now I feel like taking a plane back East and giving that poor man a brand-new stuffed whale. Poor guy!
Mary Flanders
Saturday, February 27, 1999 01:33:03 PM
IP: ramp-1-42.ucdavis.edu

**RP STUFF**

Gatling Grizzly has shot out all the Onslaught's tires, forcing the Ravens to get out of it in order to fight him. The rest of the evil Metal Gear team (except Vapor Serpent, who was just killed by Miriam)- Uzi Caracal, Storm Eagle, Orca Doppelganger, and Shootist Tarantula, are waiting for them. Orca starts shapechanging to impersonate the Ravens, and using the abilities of each one in turn. Grizzly continues to blast away, Caracal and Tarantula joins him. Storm Eagle rains bolts of magic down on the party, and they try desperately to dodge. Elena floats up with fay power and challenges Storm Eagle to a wizards' duel. The evil witch accepts, and they begin one. Kitainia is meanwhile trying to blow away Grizzly while dodging his shots, and accidentally runs into one of Tarantula's snare-traps. Thinking she's down for now, the Metal Gear team turns their attention to the others. While Kitainia is escaping the trap, she posts in the CR.

**PAUSE RP**

Immortal Kenny: Geez, first Steve tells me he's alive and we're ready to go with it. Now James says he's dead. I wonder who's right about things.

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR EIGHT DAYS A WEEK AND 8mm**

8 Days a Week: This movie had its moments. It had a few funny scenes (just about all the sex humor was just plain sick, though, so be ready), and a somewhat interesting storyline. Most of the characters were cliched, but at least the three main ones were developed. And Guiseppe was a laugh riot, I liked him. As for Keri Russell, her main role in this film was to be an object of attraction, and that she did well. I think they should have given her more character development, but that's only my opinion. I give the flick two stars.

Oh, and for guys like Deuce who want to see this for Keri Russell- You never see her naked. But there is one scene with her in a wet T-shirt, several with her scantily clad, two with her in bra and panties, and for two seconds at the end you can catch a glimpse of her breasts. I guess that should entice you, right? BTW, she's built like Gwyneth, so be prepared. <smiles evilly>

8mm: This was a REALLY good movie. Nicolas Cage turns in yet another stellar preformance, and I loved the plot. First he's in it for the money, then at the end he's in it because he cares. You can also feel the emotion streaming off the characters all throughout, and that's a good thing. The suspense at the end almost killed me, and the action there was also excellent. There is also a well-researched if occasionally disgusting portrayal of the porn industry in the movie, and Joaquin Phoenix has a hilarious role as the man on the inside of it. Definitely a better fic than Schumacher's Batman films, I give it four stars.

**SPOILERS ARE OVER**

Taleweaver: Thanks for answering my question on dragons.

Be a Garg?: I already am one in RP. A half-garg anyway. With Wolverine's healing factor and retractable talons. Check Coyote's site for a pic. I hope this answers the question.

Deuce: Sex can be good for your health? Oh yeah, you're right about that. Several doctor friends of mine have confirmed it's good exercise. And Doug and I know all too well how mental-health enhancing it can be <snicker>.

Aris: I too disagree with you about Brooklyn and Sata. Read "Daylight" and "The Promise-" those eps clearly show how much Sata loves Brooklyn and vice versa. I also agree with what Deuce said about this.

Heather and Robby: Very cool pic of you both. Now I know what a lucky girl Heather is (and again that Robby is also a lucky man to have such a beautiful girlfriend). I agree with Robby that Heather is real cute when she's excited, but then most girls are.

SJ: No, I don't mind it at all. Doug did of course ask me before he posted them. :)

Taleweaver: I also give you my congrats on writing such good episodes as the four parts of Sun and Serpent.

Death of a Salesman: I agree that this was a very sad movie. And a very good one.

Kylynna: Thanks. Same here. :)

That's all for now, later.

**RP AGAIN**

Kitainia gets out of the trap and then sneaks up behind Tarantula and shoots her in the back. She falls dead. At the same instant Grizzly topples, full of shots from Mist, Fleur, Doug, Gubio, and Jammer. Orca is next, ran through by Stephanie even as he tries to shapeshift again. Then Caracal is blown away by Boris and hacked in half by Jaden, both of whom are sick of him dancing around and toying with them. Elena drives Storm Eagle off with waves of magical energy, the evil witch swears she'll be back before she teleports away. The Ravens all nod at each other, heal their wounds, and begin repairing the Onslaught, their latest fight at an end. Meanwhile, Tracker (who's been observing the battle from a nearby ridge) lowers his binoculars and nods at some more of Zale's men, telling them to block the valley exit. It looks like the Ravens aren't out of the woods yet.

**FOR NOW, RP IS OVER**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:00:43 AM
IP: dal-qbu-zow-vty43.as.wcom.net

Sorry Princess Estra but still you gonna admit the Hitchiker's guide to the Galaxy quote Servirs Jr. put up makes one thing jes?
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, February 27, 1999 09:29:32 AM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

Isn't our pal Willow playing Alice in Alice in Wonderland on NBC Sunday??

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 04:19:43 AM
IP: proxy-513.public.rwc.webtv.net

We won ! Gargoyles 55% and ( I forgot) 51%.
This week is Doug and Animantics. Doug watcher over here !

**leaves listening to Tupac's "Changes" **
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Saturday, February 27, 1999 03:14:21 AM
IP: 167-26-115.ipt.aol.com

Deuce: Splendid job with the introduction, my friend.

Wilek: It does my heart much good to here someone else admit that they don't go around sizing people like cuts of meat. Sure, I appreciate beauty, but I have a strict control over my behavior, screw hormones. I, however, am not a Vulcan. I don't let my intellect do the overriding, I listen to my soul.

**Rant Warning, Rant Warning ***
Sure, I can understand and have experienced the simple observation that someone is 'cute' or just plain beautiful and attractive. I accuse no one here of acting poorly. However, I want to take a moment to look at the way the thing is typically handled in our Society. My soul tells me that everyone has an intrinsic worth that makes them too precious to treat as anything less than a gift. Only the most nauseatingly violations of the rights of others warrants any justified actions taking away the dignity of another human being. Treating people as objects of sexual desire instead of people is disgusting. I find my own relationships are difficult because of my sense of propriety, but I am very comfortable with getting to know a person based on common interests and compatibility. I like people I can talk to, not ogle. I guess perhaps I'm the hopeless romantic, but I look for a true soul-mate, mayhaps even True Love. Maybe that won't happen, but I will never concede to the disgusting and demeaning trends of Societarial Ethics and Trends that I see in the media and about me IRL. I have higher standards for myself, perhaps, but I - more importantly - hold a higher intrinsic value to human beings than Society does. If I were in less polite company I might be incline to say what I feel modern Society can do with itself … I have faith is Humanity.

**END RANT**

Heather: An absolutely lovely picture.

Becoming a Gargoyle: It might be interesting if it came with all the skills and instincts. Someone turned by human avatar into a gargoyle in RP once … it really messed me up. I couldn't sit in my favorite chair. I broke my bed. I turned into stone all day. It really threw off my life. Upon reflection, I noticed that a lot of my influence in the world around me for the better was derived on the way I lived my life. Having those social functions disrupted like that really caused a detriment which exceeded the bonuses of height and strength and even have a tail. Still, the memory of gliding … sigh … wings are possibly the one thing I covet most … Earthly tomb without a key/ Chained down by necessity/ Crawling out and one knee/ Take the air and seek to flee/ On Eagles wings - I might be free …

About the world an humanity not measuring up:

If ever I could reach out my hand/
And take the tapestry of this land/
And hold reality by the seems/
I'd weave it freely, to your dreams.

Traveler: Instead, I've got to slug it out. Sigh. Such is life, I suppose. I'll try to lead by example, do the right thing whenever it comes across my Path. I have lofty goals, I suppose. As for getting the Pope a glass of water, that is the problem we often have with leadership. I'd get you water if you couldn't conveniently get it yourself. I'm willing to bet his Holiness would as well if he were the optimal water boy in the situation. Anyway, I have an axiom that fits my belief of the fundamental principles of a true Catholic (universal in the actual meaning of the word) community: Not 'God helps those who help themselves' but 'God helps those who help each other.'

Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, February 27, 1999 02:22:22 AM
IP: 141.133.134.81

Timedancer- Gonna be wierd with Brooklyn and Sata not being in Egypt next week huh? Well, next week they return to a place we've seen before...

Demona May's Art- I love the piece she did of me and Heather, but then, I'm a little biased in the matter... But everything else she does is real good too. If you wanna contact Demona May for a commission, just send e-mail to

Realdemona@yahoo.com

Her turnaround time is pretty fast, but she doesn't have consistent computer access, and her scanner access is even more infrequent. So her reply may not be speedy for those reasons.

Gen-X movie... I taped that when it came on... And taped over it the next day. That movie was horrible!

Coyote and Ravyn- You two make almost as good a couple as me and Heather. Hope things work out for the two of ya.
Robby
Saturday, February 27, 1999 01:59:19 AM
IP: spider-th053.proxy.aol.com

**RP! YES, MORE RP! DEAL WITH IT.**

[Miriam: "Bitch, am I?!" She dodges Vapor Serpent's rifle and Stinger missle shots long enough to shoot him once in each arm, making him drop his weapons. A shot to one leg, ane he falls to the floor. Miriam stands over him and points her gun at his forehead. "If you wanted to be a woman--" She pulls one of her throwing knives--"you had but to ask." Wilek wisely decides to look away. Finally giving up on the bomb, he calls a Dark Star security team to come and try to disarm or dispose of it. Wilek: "Uh, Miriam? I'm going up to the bridge and see what's happening on the rest of the station; a team will be by to get rid of this bomb soon. I guess you have Serpent under control?" Miriam <having to raise her voice over Serpent screaming>: "You assume correctly, Mr. Nereus." Wilek: <shudders>]

**PAUSE RP!**

Hm, couldn't help but notice my conspicuous absence from the various cute guy lists the girls are posting...just kidding! :D

As for cute girls...for some reason, I can't get my mind to work like that. My hormones have been totally subjugated by my intellect for so long that I just can't bring myself to think of anyone in that way.

<<Would you become a gargoyle if given the chance?>> I *am* a garg, but...if I were human, then YOU BET. Or better, a mutate (no stone sleep and a rather attractive coat of fur). ^_^

Deuce> <<Tell your brother to get Windows 98. DOS games that gave Windows 3.1 a nervous breakdown run like the wind under Win98.>> Man, did you get *that* right. I can play The 11th Hour and ZSNES in Win98 without much trouble. Those things even give DOS some problems once in a while. <<Here's a hint, scumball: about as many pieces of mail as you'll be in.>> Great line. :) <<'Any prosecutor who enjoys getting a death penalty has just got something wrong'>> That rather depends on the defendant. This John William King idiot...I'd hack him to bits with a dull machete and laugh while I was doing it. BTW, EXCELLENT CR intro. Only one thing more is needed: some mention of 'insanity as the path to happiness'. :P <j/k>

Character Names> For some reason I've had the name 'Joshua Blackstone' running around in my head for a while; perhaps I've played 'Blackstone Chronicles' a bit too much. (Perhaps more ominously...the name 'Trannon Nereus' has also been in my head for a while, along with a character image. I have no memory whatsoever of ever actually creating him; I was just rooting about in my mind one night and found him milling around. O_o)

Heather> Tell Demona May that SHE IS DA BOMB! (And explain, if she doesn't know what this means, that it's a Very Good Thing © . ^_^ ) And you and Robby are very kewl looking. :)

Stephen> LOVED your MDC death. It seems vaguely familiar; is it from a movie or something?

Kylynna> Another satisfied customer! <g>

**RESUME RP!**

[On the bridge, SJ, under the misapprehension that the team is really the evil clones, opens fire on them with a flamethrower. Anoth psionically shields them, then telekinetically wrenches the thrower from SJ's grasp and puts it on a very high ledge. Jake: "SJ, what the <censored> do you think you're doing?! We're the good guys!" SJ: "How do I know that?" Anoth: "First of all, our clones were powerful but far less intelligent than we are. I'm amazed they even had a grasp of the English language. Besides, that sorcerer clone of Wilek's has two...vampire eagles, did he call them? <gestures toward where DMW and his birds are for some reason watching WF2's corpse> His impostor did not." As the rest of the team attempts to convince SJ of their veracity, DMW watches with interest as WF2's corpse...comes to life. Now a very pale blue with white hair and more fearsome fangs than even a gargoyle should have, WF2 has become...Vampire Wilek. VW <looks at DMW>: "How may I serve you, my master?..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, February 27, 1999 12:49:14 AM
IP: tnt-1-56-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Sigh, the good old TGS comment room, I love this place 'ya know (flicks tail distianfully at memory of extremly confusing star treck chat) much more room to be a garg and be pround of one's extremly limited knowlege of all outside the gargoyle related pages so often frequented. Its just much more comfortable (translation=here i can talk about having a tail wings and varius other garg anatomy difrenses and growl and roar and stuff and instead of thinking I've comepletly lost it, you understand and reply in kind) I love this place and you guys are the greatest!!!!!!!
Kylynna - [ressler@emeraldnet.net]
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:18:30 PM
IP: ppp-206-191-150-124.emeraldnet.net

I just saw "Blast from the Past" and if you haven't seen it, please do. It was very charming and I thought the whole perfect guy theme was cute. I had to go to dress rehearsal today for 5 hours so I'm not going to say much. But as far as this being a gargoyle stuff goes, I would just wish to be one no matter what.
SOROW
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:18:01 PM
IP: usr2-1-dialup12.mix1.irving.cw.net

Carolynn Marie> ["...funny what you come up with late at night..."] That's when I come up with every good idea I've ever had: at night, in bed, when I should be sleeping.

Humans> "The humans thought they were superior to the dolphins because they had developed guns, wars, and New York City. The dolphins thought they were superior for exactly the same reasons." — Rough quote from Douglas Adams

Anybody here seen the movie "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?" This reinforces my belief in Leonardo DiCappucino's acting abilities, especially after seeing "Titanic". One thing, though: this was the first time I saw the movie, and the first time I ever saw Juliette Lewis (to my knowledge). She played the character of Becky. I saw her and thought three things:

a) She's REALLY cute;
b) She looks EXACTLY like I imagined my character of Becky in my story;
c) Somebody's been reading my mind again.

Same name, same look, same attitude.... Help me....

** leaves, twitching oddly **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:11:05 PM
IP: pppa107.connect.ab.ca

Hey all!!

I saw the Angela pic was being used by 2 or 3 people, so I decided to ditch the pic and go with just text. And the color pink is so neglected these days, so I'm giving it a chance.

** TIMEDANCER COMMENTS/SPOILERS **

Aaaah, it all makes perfect sense now! (Sort of. Heh! I may have to read again.) Harthoth WAS Khensu!! Jeez, that musta been a slap in the face to poor Brooklyn when he found out. Brooklyn's mixed feelings about him are definitely justified.. And we'll most likely see even more of Apep, Harthoth and Isfet, maybe even they'll be involved in the Unseelie War (I can only hope..). Anyway, this whole episode, all four parts, was wonderful, and masterfully written. Bravo!!!

It's actually going to be weird, next week, Brooklyn and Sata NOT being in Egypt, after these four weeks. But I'm excited for more Timedancing. <g>

** END SPOILERS/COMMENTS FOR TIMEDANCER **

Deuce> (re: New Radicals) Ugh. I don't even like that "You Get What You Give" song all that much. (I'm sorry, but Courtney Love alone could kick that guy's sorry a$$. But Courtney Love AND Marilyn Manson could do some serious damage... <EG>)
But Adore is a beautiful album. I highly recommend it.

Zath, Wavelength> (re: Daria) *puts hands up in self-defense* <g> Hey, I've got nothing against having my intelligence and wit compared to Daria's. But just not her trademark pessimistic view on things. It's just that for a long time my mother's had this distorted view of me. That I hate the world, never smile, never have fun. I don't understand it. Heh, not that I try to change her mind or anything; I usually just shake my head and say: "You don't even know me." It must be a teenage thing ;o)
But anyway, I do have a lot of things in common with Daria, like the deadpan humor and sarcasm. But, I'm actually more like Jane, the artist...less monotone and more smiling <g>

Being a gargoyle> Hmmm, that'd be fun maybe for a little bit, although there aren't too many tall buildings around here to jump off of. Plus, some of my worst nightmares involve me somehow flying (like, I'm a bird, or once I dreamt I jumped out of a swing and flew) and then falling...and FALLING!!!! Though I love flying in airplanes, I hate going out on balconies on tall buildings. I mean, there'd be nothing out there except you, the air...and the ground *shudder*. (Not to mention all the pointy, jagged, extremely hard objects that may be in between)

Silver Arrow> I'm 18, and, I have yet to take advantage of the fact...though one of my friends asked me if I would buy cigarettes for him. I refused.

MST3k> I'll admit, I once watched regularly (only since the 8th season; we don't get Comedy Central), but recently I haven't watched, and the ones i have seen are pretty boring. Although I've heard the 10th season may be pretty good. And Joel and Frank are going to make appearances in the season premiere, in April, I believe. And that's definitely worth tuning in for.

Argent> My most sincerest condolensces to you regarding your dental situation! I too had to have several baby teeth pulled (Four molars, two at a time, and two eye teeth, both at the same time), and had the experience of having a permanent tooth grow in on top of a stubborn baby tooth. And braces....ugh. I've had mine on since September last year, and I MIGHT have them taken off in April, if I'm lucky. But don't worry, they're not that terrible. And people thought I actually looked *CUTE* with my braces when I first got 'em. *bashful grin*

One Helluva Sad Film> This week in my Film as Literature class we watched Death of a Salesman with Dustin Hoffman as Willy Loman. It's definitely not a mere tearjerker...it just grabs hold of yer heart and WRENCHES it around, then let's you be optimistic, then YANKS your heart out again. I'm sure if I'd have been at home I woulda been bawling, and even trying to constrain myself during class, my eyes were watering. I'd read the play before, but watching the movie (which is almost word-for-word with the play) really gave it life, and meaning for me. I believe Dustin Hoffman once said that this was his favorite role, or at least, the most meaningful for him, and it's really understandable. I'd recommend this to everyone, if you can find a copy. But be prepared to see some pretty depressing stuff...

Well, on that cheery note, I'll take my leave. And since I'm feeling profound today, a quote!! :

"The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing"
--Socrates


So long!
~Jill
jILLybEAn - [jbruhn@bendnet.com]
Bend, Oregon
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:08:15 PM
IP: b149.bendnet.com

Estra, i hope ya get here soon, i can't figure out that chat, log off and call me, 'k'?
Kylynna
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:07:03 PM
IP: ppp-206-191-150-124.emeraldnet.net

Ummmmmmmmmm, puck, i thought you should know...I have no clue how to get into that chat, crash coarse in chat rooms for Kylynna!!!!!!! :) :( hmmmmmmmmmm
Kylynna
Friday, February 26, 1999 10:50:09 PM
IP: ppp-206-191-150-124.emeraldnet.net

longer post later!!!!!

Kylynna, the URL is http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/danneff/cgi-bin/tenforward/tf_chat.plhttp://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/danneff/cgi-bin/tenforward/tf_chat.pl

go to Ten Forward.

anyone else who wants to, go too! it's a great Star Trek chat!

and, as for the last post, some of my best friends are humans. so don't diss them, okay?
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Passing Realms
Friday, February 26, 1999 10:39:36 PM
IP: spider-wo024.proxy.aol.com

Severius Jr> (says very evenly) Humans are stupid and worthless. All the rest of the animal kingdom are supier in that they don't destroy our planet slowly and painfully the way we do, Still I'd rather be a human than most any animal. Hmm except maybe a cat.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 26, 1999 10:30:10 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

**RP!!**

**The screen lights up to reveal ... Charlotte and the tank, tailed by a huge assault chopper, speeding down the freeway through New Mexico. Ravyn's now standing in Charlotte's driver's seat, braced between the seat back and the windshield, furiously pumping and firing the shotgun. Coyote is madly fiddling with the laptop.**

<"Willya forget about the computer?">

**Coyote pulls a pistol out of his jacket, with his radio**

Hey guys, we could use backup anytime here.

<"Copy, we're working on it." "Yeah, we need more stuff to load the tank with!">

What? No more beer?

<"I thought you didn't want us shooting beer out the turret!">

Well, not if you don't *have* to!!

<"Oh, well in that case ...">

**A loud report is heard from the tank turret, as it sends four cans of Molson arcing toward the assault chopper.**

**PAUSE RP!!**

Wilek: And *that* was the joke! :)

Mary Flanders: Hmm ... rather interesting list you've got there.

Jewel: I for one didn't miss the joke. I got it. :)

Doug: Enjoy what you can of your B-day, dude. As for Lauryn Hill ... I confess, I like her stuff. She's got some pretty interesting songs in her repertoire (is she the one that does the remake of "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You," originally by the Four Seasons?)

Wavers: Thanks. I have a follow-up appt. tomorrow, hopefully my meds will be reduced. It'll be a good thing, too ... I'm getting sick of only wearing one lens.

Ravyn: Hmm ... interesting, since Raven is still around, complete with a "flock" in WCW (although last I heard he had lost control of the Flock.).
But no matter the source, I really like the handle. ;)

SJ: Certainly. Only problem I had with Heather McComb as Jubilee was one little major thing ... namely that she was the *absolutely wrong* ethnicity and background!!!
(for those unfamiliar ... Jubes is supposed to be Chinese-American and an orphan. The movie Jubes was white and had *both* parents alive.)

**RESUME RP!!**

**The beer splatters all over the windshield of the assault chopper, obscuring the pilot's vision. The operator, though, is able to squeeze off a very well aimed shot, headed directly for Ravyn.**

HEADS UP, RAV!!

**Coyote pulls Ravyn down to the seats, making the missile fired from the chopper just miss and punch a crater in the freeway ahead of Charlotte. Charlotte finds the crater, screeching her brakes at the last minute and throwing everyone into a pile in the front seats ... Coyote on the bottom, Ravyn in the middle, and Jimmie on top.**

Ouch ...

<"Where'd the truck go?" **looks at Coyote** "Hi there.">

**grins** Hello yourself. **changes moods immediately** This is no time for this kind of thing!

<"Guys, what happened?">

**Jimmie jumps off of Ravyn, who in turn picks herself up off of Coyote.**

We've lost 'em for now. We're gonig to have to watch our backs for a while. **turns to radio** Jason, Gearhead, bring it in close. We've got to watch ourselves from here on in.

**Everyone in Charlotte readjusts themselves as the tank pulls up and the screen winks off.**


Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, February 26, 1999 10:23:05 PM
IP: 207.91.254.7

Robby and Heather> Just saw the pic that Demona May drew of you it is very nice.

Upcoming episode of Buffy> This episode will be titled ENEMIES. So here is what the episode will be about. Faith convinces Avgel to help her kill Buffy, but it's Buffy and Angel who are the ones keeping secrets from Faith.

Just one more thing do any of you rember ACE OF BASE I do and they got a new CD out.
Lawrence Stone - [st1@bright.net]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Friday, February 26, 1999 09:54:57 PM
IP: chil-ras2-3-cs-17.dial.bright.net

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Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Friday, February 26, 1999 09:50:59 PM
IP: 207.91.254.7

*** SPOILERS FOR THE SUN AND THE SERPENT ***

I had wanted to wait until I'd read all four parts before making comments on it.

I thought Part I was pretty good, about at the level of the other high-quality episodes of TGS. The characterizations on the different characters was excellent, there was good action, and the scenes of Sata meeting with Meryt for the first time were good (I, too, liked the "I will cheerfully strangle you" line from Sata). A good introduction to the four-parter.

Part II, well...I can quite honestly say that I was blown away by it. The action scenes here were beyond excellent, especially the end battle with Apep; the characterizations were again great; and the budding romance between Brooklyn and Meryt was very well handled. I also liked the scenes in 20th Century Egypt, especially the 'singing scene' with Brooklyn and Meryt, and Sata trying to come to terms with this new development in the relationship with her mate.

Part III was a bit on the short side, but that was about the only complaint I could level at it. And excellent display of Meryt and Brooklyn's romance after it had come to full bloom; and the interaction between Meryt and Sata in the 20th Century scenes was great.

Finally, there's Part IV. An excellent ending to a superb tetralogy (four-story saga). The dream was good. Uraeus got center stage and really ran well with the megalomaniac bit. The action is again excellent, as are some of the lines (Isfet's standing out), and the characterizations. The scene showing Meryt's death/resurrection was particularly poignant. And Brooklyn coming to terms with Meryt and reaffirming his love of Sata at the end was a wonderful conclusion.

*** Spoilers Over ***

Now that I'm done praising the episodes, let me praise the writer personally in front of the whole comment room.

To begin with, I'd like to state that I was the one who came up with the original idea for Sun and the Serpent. I came up with the characters Harthoth, Isfet, and Meryt, as well as the idea of Meryt being Brooklyn's first love. (I also came up with some stuff dealing with Harthoth that, if it's still being followed in spirit, should prove _very_ entertaining future episodes to all of you readers out there.) I also came up with the basic plot structure for Sun and Serpent.

That said, I have to say that Taleweaver improved the plot beyond anything I could have thought of. The characters beyond the ones mentioned earlier are basically of his design, and they add much more life and depth to the story than it would have had. Taleweaver's also truly lived up to his name by weaving a truly great tale out of the scraps I left him with when I left TGS last year (in shame, I might add).

Put simply and honestly, I have to say I'm absolutely blown away by what he's created. Or, to paraphrase Wayne and Garth from the "Wayne's World" movie: *getting on his knees and prostrating himself several times while chanting the following phrase* "I'M NOT WORTHY!! I'M NOT WORTHY!!" (I'm sorry, but that's what I felt like after finishing Part II of S&S. I _know_ beyond a shadow of a doubt that Rahsaan did a _far_ better job of this multi-parter than I _ever_ could have thought of doing.)

Congratulations, Taleweaver. You've created a masterpiece. I hope you feel proud of the job you did, for such would be well-deserved.
Nicodemus
Friday, February 26, 1999 09:19:41 PM
IP: 209-63-254-34.smf.jps.net

*staggers into the room under a stack of pizzas, chucking them in everyone's general direction* Y'all chow down!

Thanks to all who welcomed me back after my being gone so long. It really cheered me up. Besides a backbreaking load of schoolwork, life itself has been a bit aggravating lately. You're all awesome :)

COMPUTER ANIMATED BRONX VID< (Did I get everyone's attention with that one? *hehe*) I have the web and email addresses of the college with the promotional vid (Art Institute of Philadelphia). I can give it to you all, and you can ask. If you say you want to post it, without making money off it, they might show it to you. It's a maybe. A BIG maybe, but you'll never know till you try. What'cha all think?

Matt Dymond< *see above* Oh, hey, sure. I'll post the addresses here for you. The work was done by the college students, not by a specific company. It's possible they'd let ya get a copy if you asked. Go for it! *runs to get the addresses*

Deuce< Is this the same bigot who dragged a black man behind his car and left him for dead? I was horrified when I heard about that. For sweet's sake, this is the 1990's, not the 1890's ... now where've I heard that before? *wink*

Heather and Robby< *whistles* Yeah, baby!! GREAT pic of you two. Very sweet. Ever gonna show us a real pic of you two, though? It'd be nice to see the real thing.

Robby< BTW, there are Art Institutes all over the USA, run by the same people in the INstitute in Philadelphia. I believe there are currenltly 11 locations nationwide :) Again, I have the web address.

Doug< *shudders at the thought of Pamela Lee in Parasite Eve* I dare not think! Speaking of vid games turning into movies, everyone's heard of the Final Fantasy movie coming out in or about 2001, right? THe computer aniamtion is gonna be awesome! It's gonna be the most realistic as of yet :) Front row seats!!!

Jaden< Thanks, and good luck on those midterms!

Buffy< *ROTFLMAO* I LOVE the part when evil Willow got transported back to her own dimension and gets shoved into a beam, and groans, "Oh, f---" about a second before she disintegrates, too. And "Hands, hands!" :D

*Basilisk waddles into the room and watches as I start laughing at Merlin Missy's "Why the chicken crossed the road". It clucks in annoyance as it attempts to zap me where I stand, sending me skittering to safety in the rafters*

Biff as Bluestone< Did anyone notice the Back to the Future reference in Lethe? I'm sorry if anyone pointed this out already; there's so much stuff in this room :) Plus, Tom Wilson also made an appearance in "Batman: the Animated Series". Does anyone remember, "Oh, yeah! You're gonna pay for that, old man! You'll remember the name Tony Zucco!" (hint, hint: guy who killed young Dick Grayson's folks) The good ol' days :D

Ravyn< *ROTFLMAO at the shirt slogans*

Blue Caeru< *L* Awesome! Chinese, English, Spanish ... you're a walking translating calculator. I used to speak a little Armenian when I was little, but that dragged off after a bit (Armenian Sunday school will only hold a 6-year-old's attention for so long ... actually, my last name's isn't Marie, but my real one is so difficult to pronounce and spell to others, I figured I'd make it easy on people :) )

<<Well... males can take a while to mature past that. Actually, I don't
think they actually do, they just become better at hiding and
controlling it... *grin>>

Amen! My dad's nigh on past 42, and I sometimes swear he's a high school guy (maturity level, considering) :)

<<That school you talked about sounds really nifty. :-) >>

It rocks! I'm almost sad to know that I'll be graduating in a little over 2 years. But I'm considering the Art Institute in Philly or the Art College of Visual Arts in New York (Home of my rookery brother, Jethro, aka the Highly Esteemed Rob Houck!) The city's only half an hour from my house, anyway. Any of you ever stop by in New Jersey, stop on by for a chat :)

Jeb< Yes, like I said, Batman Beyond is a little disappointing. Glad to know i'm not the only one here :) We should write a letter to Warner Bros. I have no problem with Terry fighting something evil, but the old Batman series, the original stuff, that was what built it's character. If only Terry and Bruce started bonding, and older characters came back (where's Ras A Ghul? He should still be around).

*Creativity Demon alert*

Stage directions:

Setting: The Joker, in a retirement home, in a wheelchair. He is shown to have recently been strapped into his chair for having attempted to gas visitors with his Smilex laughing gas ... *AGH! Snap out of it!* *shakes head*

Whooh, funny what you come up with late at night :)

Nothin' but love to y'all. Peace out.
Carolynn Marie
Friday, February 26, 1999 09:06:34 PM
IP: spider-tk034.proxy.aol.com

Hi all.

***TIMEDANCER EPISODE SPOILIER***

What can I say, I loved it! :))
I especially like the begining with Brooklyn going down the river of time and seeing all the females he either had a crush on or accully had a loving realationship with. It made an exellent mediphore.
The rest of the story was _very_well done. It now makes sence about the relationship between Khensu and Brooklyn (why Khensu calls him his old friend.)

*Hummmm*
I wander what sick-monkey stuff Brooklyn was doing on top of the statue, during the Festival of Hathar. :))

***SPOILERS END***

Have to go.
Bye for now.
Xena
N.Vancouver, BC, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 08:52:32 PM
IP: nvan-53-0275.direct.ca

**blushes at everyone who made good comments about the pic** I'm even blushing in RL ! I think it's the cleavage part...but it got alot of people commenting to me..hmm...

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, February 26, 1999 08:26:08 PM
IP: 212-230-227.ipt.aol.com

Lonny, evil twin of Robby> Really? I now truly fear the world we live in. Not hate. I just don't trust it anymore. "And the third part of the trees was burnt up and all the green grass was burnt up! And he opened the bottomless pit and the cookies were replaced by fruit!" Woe, woe, woe to the inhabiters of the Earth, indeed.
Trent vs. Mothra
Friday, February 26, 1999 08:11:17 PM
IP: 147.226.113.249

****IT'S AN RP!!!*****
Thailog is still talking to his "Visitor". "So, you claim to have whole worlds at your disposal. What's your first plan of attack?"
<<One of our Race is already on board the Dark Star. Among the Resistance.>>
Thailog arched his eyebrow. "Really?"
<<Yes. They will watch....and when the time is right, they will act. They will completely destroy the Dark Star's defenses, so that you're forces can easily attack them.>>
"Are you sure your insider can pull it off? I've got burned once to many trying to to destroy that station. They destroyed a perfectly good Death Star, you know. Those thinks cost some change!"
<<Do not worry.>> the hooded being said. <<We shall not fail. Resistance......is futile.>>
****PAUSE RP*****

Sex Kills: I read something--a story, a book excerpt, sumthin'--not too long ago that could justify this. What is the one thing that sex gives us? Yes, it gives us THAT, but that's all oogey and messy. Sex gives us life! Without reproduction, none of us would be here. And what is the ultimate end result of life? DEATH. So, in a way, Sex DOES kill. Kinda like HIV.
And yeah, for your information, the author of that piece was a bit of a smartass.

Lauryn Hill: Well....I must admitt I hate her music. Nothing personal, I just despise all rap / hip-hop/ R&B music. But what that DJ said is absolutely unforgiveable.

Would you be a Gargoyle?: Wasn't this asked way back when? Wow, the popular answer is yes. But for me, it's an emphatic no. I think I've stated these views in here before. I'm essentially a humanist; I think we humans (in the real world, that is) are 1)the highest form of life God has created, at least that we know of or, from an evolutionary perspective 2)the highest evolved species in existence (that we know of). We humans are horribly flawed at times, and completely imperfect, but we're the best thing around. (which is kinda sad, in a way...) I love being a human! Why would I give it up?
Still, I love having tons of Gargoyle and/or Fey friends. NOBODY tends to pick on you with buds like them. :)

Gen X Movie: Hey, I got that movie on tape. It's....it's painful to watch. The acting is pretty horrible....the Special FX are loathsome....The White Queen looks like a bad Nancy Sinatra rip-off.....who in their right mind casted THAT guy as Banshee?....Matt Frewer did his best with what he had to work with (there was one funny bit when he was about to cut Skin's scalp off: "Something's been bugging me, and I just have to get it off my chest....I really HATE your hair.").......Still, like you said, it's probably the closest we'll come to an X-Men movie.....UNTIL SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR!!! That's right, coming Summer 2000: X-MEN: The Motion Picture!!! (filming starts this summer!)
BTW, wasn't the girl who played Jubilee hot? :)

Doug: Say, Kitiana doesn't mind you giving her measurements, does she? ;)

Brooklyn: I gotta play Devil's advocate here.....While I'm all for changing a character, and letting them grow....I'm not really that found of Brooklyn's family. Don't really care much for Graeme, or Ariana, or really Sata for that matter. I like the core group.
In my own fanfic (which will come out....eventually) I plan on making Brooklyn the way I think he should be--Numero Uno Badass! Still, I'm not saying that I disagree with the TGS folks. They have developed Brooklyn quite well, and while I admit I'm not a huge fan of Brook's family, at least the TGS folks have kept things interesting. Keep it up! :)

Fighting in Wars: I have nothing but respect for our military. There's nobody I'd want defending my country (except maybe all my Garg friends ;0] ). But in almost every experience I've had with military people, they were huge dicks. Jerks. They're probably the minority though....but I believe the people I'm thinking of also had ties with the C.I.A., so that explains a lot....
On a serious note, my dad (RL, that is) did fight in the Vietnam War. Pre-war he was in the Navy, but he did other stuff during the war though....I really can't explain it. I'm not supposed to. Let's just say he saw his fair share of action. That's also why I have respect for our veterans--regardless of whether you thought 'Nam was moral or not, our troops went through HELL. Serious hell. If you knew half the stuff that happened over there....No wonder so many Vets are screwed up with PTSD....
As for me being in the military....I can't see it. I wouldn't make it past the drill seargeants ("Move it, Private Pyle!"). I guess I'd be more like Doogie Howser's character in "Starship Troopers." I'm more of a lover, not a fighter. ;)

Deuce: YES! Another person who realizes that the New Radicals are TALENTLESS! Smashing Pumpkins beats them hands down!
Nice Intro BTW!

Heather: Hubba, hubba, hubba! Gargoyle or not, that's a very nice pic! :-]
Oh, and I guess Robby looked okay too. (Yeah, like I was lookin' at him anyway....)

****RESUME RP*****
SJ arrives aboard the Dark Star (let's just say that he's been flying around in his Scimitar the whole time, kay?).
He sees Wilek's group--Anoth, Terri, and the rest--and scratches his head.
"So....I hear there's some evil twins on here. Since I've been kinda outta the loop the last few days, for all I know YOU could be them."
"We just killed them," Anoth comments.
"Can't be too sure. Better frag you just in case!" SJ levels a flamethrower at the group.....
*****PAUSE RP*****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, February 26, 1999 08:00:35 PM
IP: 207-172-69-15.s269.tnt8.brd.erols.com

Oh, and the CR's intro is done. Click my name.
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:53:13 PM
IP: pppa98.connect.ab.ca

ROBBY/HEATHER - Very NICE pic! You think Demona May could find it in her heart to do one for me?

CHRISTINE - Oh, so now it's official?!? I _am_ the King of Crossover Fics? Gargoyle wise anyway? <grin> I guess the proof will be when I finish that Gargs/Transformers fic and post it.

ARIS - I have to agree; from what I've seen, Brooklyn has his true love in Sata.

ROBBY'S EVIL TWIN - Remind me to put you on "The List"...

**** A RARE THING, AN RP FOR Mr. DC ****

[Stephen ambles over to Dis, a freindly grin on his kisser.]

DIS: "Oh, what now?!? You going to kill me too???"

SRS: "Nope."

DIS: [puzzled, but wary look] "What? Why not?"

SRS: "I don't care for unnessesary violence. It's not my bag, dig?"

DIS: "Oh! [wipes his brow with a PHEW!] For a minute there I though I was going to get killed again!"

SRS: Naw! Let's just relax a bit. Hey, you hungry?"

DIS: Now that you mention it... I am a bit peckish."

SRS: I hear they ordered some Papa John's Pizza in the CR Kitchen. [points to a bell-pull rope nearby] Why don't you ring up the butler to bring us some?" [Takes one slow step back causually]

DIS: "Okay! [grabs the rope and pulls it hard] Uh... waitaminute... Do we have a butler?' [Just then, a large, heavy obelisk drops with sudden swiftness from the ceiling overhead, smashing Dis to the floor like a bug under an anvil... the words "Ye King's Anger" in Japanese katakana written on one side of it]

SRS: [snaps fingers] "Dang... that's right! We can't afford a butler! [Looks at Dis' squished remains] Oh, well... I never do like to share Papa John's pizza! It's my favorite!"

**** END RARE RP ****

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:49:21 PM
IP: m111.ieway.com

Robby and Heather> Damn, do you two make a cute couple. Cool picture!

Attractive members of the opposite sex> I go for Jennifer Love Hewitt, Larisa Oleynik, Britney Spears, and Claire Danes. :-)

***TWO RANTS***

Brook & Sata> They do NOT have an "empty" relationship! They may have little spats, but that doesn't mean they don't love each other. Meryt was his first "real" love, but Sata is his "true" love, if you catch my meaning. Meryt was very much like him: carefree, kinda wacky. Sata is more his opposite: serious-minded and stern. She keeps him grounded. Notice how, after about 30 years of being with her (in Gargoyles/Pendragon), he's a lot more calm than he was when he was younger? She was a positive influence on him all the way.

***END FIRST POINTLESS RANT, BEGIN SECOND ONE***

Anybody here thinking of buying the New Radicals' CD "Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too"? Here's my advice: don't. It's sloppily put together, the lyrics in the book rarely match the actual lyrics (and are much more vulgar), and the music is mediocre. Honestly, download the MP3 of "You Get What You Give" (the only good song), but ditch the rest. Personally, I'm taking it back tomorrow and picking up "Adore" by Smashing Pumpkins.

***END RANTS AND POST***

P.S. For the next couple days, use my Yahoo! account; Softhome's being a real bitch still.
Deuce - [halfpastsix@yahoo.com]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:31:56 PM
IP: pppa98.connect.ab.ca

Robby's busy talking to Heather, and I have buisness with DC anyhow, so I figured this is a fine time to post...

Contact Lenses- Robby doesn't wear them because they hurt, and he's fine with glasses. I myself have cybernetic implants to make myself all the more evil.

Sick people- I love it when people get sick! If Robby were posting, he'd wish you all well.

Caer- Read everything in two days eh? Similar to what Robby did. I myself, having the cybernetic eye implants and all, read the entire series in half an hour.

Daria- Fun show. Love the main character's attitude on everything. So dreery and uncheerful. Been taping episodes lately. While using Robby's VCR improperly. Bwah hah hah hah hah hah! Er, sorry... Get carried away sometimes.

Dragon powers- There are ways past every law or rule. I should know, I've gotten past most of them. Dragons will find a way to dowhat they must to hurt people.

Brooklyn loving Sata and Meryt- Hmm... Good point. Perhaps. Mind you, Brooklyn wasn't doing any timedancing with Meryt, and after three years,he may have well come to believe that was his last stop. So he got real cozy with the locals, like I would. As far as Meryt, she WAS his first real love, and those are always special. Where Sata is concerned, true they were forced togeher, but remember they really didn't like each other all that much at first. They came to love each other after a great deal of time,before she ever had the choice of leaving him. And she chose to stay with him, this was clearly showcased in the tearjerker "The Promise". Anything Brooklyn was holding back was for fear of going through Meyrt again. And besides, he knew Meyrt was still out there. Now that he has had a chance to settle things with Meryt, he will be able to come closer to Sata than he has already.

Egads, I'm talking about mushy stuff... Some of Robby must be rubbing off on me. Ick...

Trent- You are aware the Cookie Monster is being replaced by the fruit monster?

Now, onto that buisness with DC...

**MY EVIL DEALINGS WITH DIS CONNECT**

"Hello Dis. I need your services."
"I don't want to help you. People keep getitng mad at me. I've been killed several times already today,and I don't like it."
"Well, thats only because you're the only one they know to blame. You need extra help to spread evil, not to mention a scapegoat."
"What are you suggesting?" I point towards the name, and laugh in an evil manner as DC listens to the song, and comes to understand who I've hired to help him.
Robby's Evil Twin Lonny
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:31:08 PM
IP: spider-wi053.proxy.aol.com

Aris> I would have to disagree with you about Brooklyn and Sata... For one thing, just because he and Sata had arguments and such, does not neccessarily mean they don't love each other... Plus there have been many scenes that show Brooklyn's love for Sata. Ever read "The Promise"? Brooklyn was feeling bad because they had returned to Sata's home and knew she vowed that she would stay in Ishimura if they ever returned. He also said he wouldn't break her vow, despite the fact he wanted to stay with her. Ultimately it was Sata who decided she would stay with Brooklyn. I don't understand how that's selfish. And though he was insensitve towards Sata about Meryt for a while, he ultimately told her about what happened. That was something that was hard for him to tell, and I can see why. Frankly, I guess I don't see how their relationship is empty.
Malibu Nylkoorb
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:18:02 PM
IP: ip32.minneapolis7.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

Just experimenting with other colors...sorry if I use somebody else's while I'm at it. :)

Names> Well, a lot of the names I use when I'm writing come from people I know. Sometimes I combine someone's first name with someone else's last name, and sometimes names just come to me. And my own name, Ravyn, comes from my early internet days. I was on a pro wrestling message board using the name Raven, but there was also a wrestler named Raven and all the time people had to say, "And Raven--not the girl who posts here but the wrestler..." So I just decided to change it to Ravyn. It was easier and besides, it's more of a feminine version, anyway. ;)

Cute guys> I just HAD to get in on this one. I think the cutest Gargoyles characters are Xanatos, Griff, and Brooklyn (something about those beaks...) ;) The cutest real guys I know of are Shawn Michaels, Adrian Paul, and Josh Pastner. :)

SJ> People like that DJ you were talking about really irk me. They're the ones that give humans such a bad rap, ya know?

Becoming a garg> I'd do it, but I'd probably want the "gargoyle at night, human by day" option if I could. (although with a relatively painless transformation.) I'd want to be stronger, a little taller, and definitely get the wings, glowing eyes, and tail. That would be so cool. :)

Christine> Cool shirt...although I know some psycho militia guys who live around here that have shirts like, "Guns don't kill people, *I* kill people" and "I don't dial 911, I dial .357." :)

Can't wait for more CR pictures! In the meantime, be cool to each other and party on! :)
Ravyn
Friday, February 26, 1999 06:42:17 PM
IP: svm-ts4-23.c2i2.com

yes Robby she obviously is. It's a great pic anyhow
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 26, 1999 06:26:00 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

Ain't she cute when she's excited?
Robby
Friday, February 26, 1999 06:24:22 PM
IP: spider-wd023.proxy.aol.com

character names> At the Green Dragon Inn I've previously based it on a book (Qulix Addams is a bounty hunter in a book I wrote) course I soon developed him to love torture but he got killed so now I use Lord MacBeth which is from Gargoyles and here at The Gargoyles Chat I came in as my IRL name for some reason but so far it's been workin fine so I'll stay myself I suppose. (shrugs)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 26, 1999 06:24:02 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

**runs in with a piece of paper in her hands **
It's in ! It's in ! Demona May(Robby's friend) e-mailed me her picture of Robby(Robert) and me as gargoyles. The picture is....I can't even explain it. From Demona May's picture of me was good of what I look like in RL. **winks** But I have glasses and have reuglar clothes.
<Clicky , clicky on my namey>

Becoming a gargoyle > I think the picture speaks for itself.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, February 26, 1999 05:31:07 PM
IP: 212-236-189.ipt.aol.com

I gots me a cookie! Thank ya kindly, Kaioto.

Character names> Phone books plus name encyclopedias (or whatever they're called. The books where you pick names for a baby.) equal normal character names. Ann Mills. Carl Resler. Lucia Rosetti. Some come from names of authors. Cool city name worked for one of mine... Also, if you stay up for thirty straight hours doing schoolwork, some things are just bound to pop into your head. Those names would include Taper Fero and Omer Jask.

I just sit down in front of the computer with a story in mind, and I blank out. A common story, probably. It just annoys me on the third straight day...
Trent aka Cookie Monster
Friday, February 26, 1999 05:30:11 PM
IP: 147.226.113.249

Kitinia> Yes Kenny was killed by Duncan in one of the episodes. Becoming a gargoyle> Not me. I like being a human.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 26, 1999 05:22:20 PM
IP: dt043nd9.san.rr.com

**** SPOILER ABOUT SUN AND SERPENT 4 ****

I've not yet read the whole story, but I wanted to make this one comment; that I somehow think that the Meryt thing has shown that in many ways the Sata-Brooklyn relationship is empty. This last story has helped bring to the front my misgivings about their relationship which I had from the beginning.

Think about it. Greg Weisman said that when Brooklyn fell in love with Angela, he pretty much did so because she was the only female available, not because of who she was.

This was repeated in Timedancer with Sata. Through an accident Sata started accompanying Brooklyn. And they fell in love to each other because they were pretty much the only gargoyles around. Their whole attitude in the first few episodes cried out "If we don't mate with each other, we won't mate at all, so let's do it." Which isn't my thought of romance. Sata gave evidence of her love in that she kept on following Brooklyn even when she didn't have to. But this only helps present Brooklyn as selfish and uncaring: What has *he* sacrificed for Sata?

On the other hand nobody forced Meryt and Brooklyn together. They had a large number of gargoyles to choose from and they chose each other. They loved each other, they know each other (moreso than Sata knows Brooklyn) and Brooklyn by deciding to stay in Egypt has given evidence of his love for Meryt.

Bottomline: IMO Brooklyn doesn't love Sata, not yet anyway. He doesn't trust her enough, and his love for her was only the result of desparation of losing Meryt. Perhaps he'll love her in the future, but in the beginning Sata was a move of despair, and now a move of obligation. He loves Meryt.

Now forgive me, I have to read the rest of the story.

Moreover (irrelevant comment), please no travels to the 90s. Brooklyn and Sata are smart enough to realise that they'd save time if they remained in the 90s rather than timehopping away once again.

*** END SPOILERS ***

And another (irrelevant, rather juvenile but anyway) remark. In 'Lethe' the second picture, that of human Demona in her loinloth... it was one of the hottest depictions of Demona I've seen. Kudos to the artist.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Friday, February 26, 1999 05:20:52 PM
IP: athe530-b025.otenet.gr

Thanks Kyryn but it doesn't help. I still get only 90%.
Perhaps somebody can send the end of the story via e-mail? (a very sweet but dispaired PLEASE!!!)

Gabriel - [Gabriel.Silvermoon@t-online.de]
Friday, February 26, 1999 04:49:14 PM
IP: ics2f.l.srv.t-online.de

Heck, I might was well throw in my two bits.

*** RANT WARNING! DIG FOXHOLES! ***

Selective Service> I filled out the card. I sent it in. But I will *never* fight in a war which I don't think is just. In my parlance, a "just" war is one which is fought in defense of a group which cannot defend itself. Wars fought over land, money, religion, or principles, are *not* just.

The jury is still out on World War II. I mean, the Jews and other groups the Nazis persecuted certainly were helped by the war, but the reason we got involved was mainly territorial. Not to mention we dragged our feet about it.

The Gulf War was just, because Kuwait could not defend itself. The sanctions that have been put into effect since then are by no concievable definition "just." They have prevented the people of Iraq from getting food and medicine they need. Over the last eight years, the sanctions have killed more people than the bombing of Hiroshima.

The point of the sanctions is to force Iraq to comply with UNSCOM in de-arming. Not only is this wrong, it isn't *effective* either! The people of Iraq are the ones who are affected by the sanctions. Saddam Hussein and the army are basically immune to the sanctions. The military is loyal to Saddam Hussein, and *he* evidently doesn't care at all about the people he claims to lead.

Everybody who agrees with me, send letters to your elected representatives demanding that the sanctions be lifted. Killing innocent civilians is not the way to disarm Iraq.

*** END RANT ***

Whew. <wipes forehead>
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Ballpitria, Friday, February 26, 1999 03:41:34 PM
IP: cdss1.colorado.edu

**Kyryn pops in momentarily**

Gabriel> Have you tried using the 'Reload' button on your browser? Browsers usually store a copy of the page. If you had trouble loading the first time, it will keep going back to that bad copy unless you go to the page and hit 'Reload'. Then it will try to get a new copy from the server. Hope it helps!

Later,

**Kyryn pops out**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, February 26, 1999 03:15:18 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

PLEASE, to everyone who read this: I NEED HELP!!!
Everytime I wanted to load up sun and serpent4 I get only 90% and then it stops and I get a error-message about missing datas. What can I do? I could only read till Brooklyn and Sata attacked Harthot and I doesn't know how it ended. PLEASE HELP ME or perhaps tell me what happend.
My thanks to everyone who will answer!
Gabriel
Friday, February 26, 1999 03:06:49 PM
IP: ics1f.l.srv.t-online.de

Doug's questions> I'll answer them, but only as myself as individual opinons, not as part of TGS. Basically, I don't have the position or the right to speak for the whole group, but I can give you my personal opinon. So no "Taleweaver said it differently..." if something different comes along.
1) Why they can't kill. I'd say this is just part of the magic. Personally, I think there are powers greater than magic, life, death and love being among them. And life is a pretty powerful force that dragon magic can't overcome.

2) What about the fay? Well for they've altered living creatures, but as far as creating sentient life (automatons don't count.) or creating true immortals (Demona and MacBeth can still die, just a more precise set of circumstances than others) I don't think they can do it.

With both cases, that doesn't mean they can't get outside help from technology or human magic.

3) Breath weapons? I leave it for the Halftime 'You make the call'

I must reiterate, that these are my own opinons. Not sanctioned or authorized by anyone. I could be wrong, it won't be the first time and most certainly won't be the last. But that my opinon and I'm sticking with it until something better comes along.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, February 26, 1999 02:51:44 PM
IP: henrietta.engineering.csupomona.edu

*** Timedancer spoilers... what are you waiting for? Go read it!***

I just have to say that I really liked Sun and the Serpent. Good character development. I especially liked to learn why Khensu was working for Apep. I've always been fond of tragic heroes-turned-villains. Darth Vader comes to mind.

***End spoilers***

I don't have much else to say. I just seem unable to follow the flood of messages this room gets. I just want to say 'hi' to those who replied to me last week.
DarkAngel - [DarkAngel@BAAWA.org]
Quebec, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 02:51:17 PM
IP: oriole.dmi.usherb.ca

Kitainia > well, you know, _you_ don't contact _them_, _they_ contact _you_ ... so how do you think Tim and I met? ; ) And to change the subject ... cute guys? For Gargs, my top three would be Goliath-MacBeth-Xanatos. Non-Gargs but still animated, the #1 is Dmitri from Anastasia. Real life hunks include David Copperfield and Kyle MacLachlan (I go for fair skinned brunettes with artistic features and sexy eyes -- no wonder I think our Green Baron is too cute to be a priest! <g>)

Jewel > that shirt reminds me of a button one of Tim's friends used to wear -- "Guns don't kill people ... bullets do."

Character Names > the best ones come full-blown into existence with their names already attached. Some have to have a given name to make a story work (Samuel, who became Samson, for instance). Others are drawn from real life (used to live next door to a girl named Roberta, everyone called her Birdie) or RPG's (Rick Alvarez is named for a character Tim played in one of my games). And for the random bunches of folks, I have two baby name books and the Writer's Digest Character Naming Sourcebook sitting on my shelf ; )

Stephen > see? I told you that you're the crossover king! How do you like having a reputation? Isn't it fun? Don't people expect some weird stuff of you? ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, February 26, 1999 01:36:52 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Peter> Tell your brother to get Windows 98. DOS games that gave Windows 3.1 a nervous breakdown run like the wind under Win98.

***PAINFUL, LENGTHY, WHOLLY DESERVED DC DEATH!***

** Deuce attempts to check his e-mail, but gets yet ANOTHER "server not responding" message. He looks over to the corner, and sees Dis Connect playing with some scissors and his computer's modem. Deuce runs over and picks Dis up by the scruff of his neck. **

So, you thought it would be funny to block my e-mail, eh? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH TGS MAIL MUST BE PILED UP BY NOW?!?!?!?!? *DC shakes his head* Here's a hint, scumball: about as many pieces of mail as you'll be in.

** Deuce opens the Automatic Portal Generator, setting it for "Limbo IV*". He sticks the back of DC's head in, and closes the portal*. He then opens the portal for the same location, and repeats the process with the rest of the head. This goes on until there are dozens of DC chunks floating in the vicinity of Limbo IV*. **

***END DC DEATH!***

OK, the two things marked with stars are references; one of them is pretty obscure. Can anyone identify them? *holds up tantalizing cyber-cookie*

I believe it is my enjoyable duty to inform the room that John William King has been sentenced to death. Click my name for an excerpt from the Edmonton Journal article. The bastard deserved it.

"...A Texas jury decided Thursday that the world would be better off without John William King in it. ... 'Any prosecutor who enjoys getting a death penalty has just got something wrong', said District Attorney Guy James Gray. 'You temper your enthusiasm. But I am proud that my community stood up and did what's right.'"
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 12:24:40 PM
IP: pppa104.connect.ab.ca

First things first, a Mr. Disconnect death.
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Wavelength walks up behind Mr. DC, who is happily wreaking havok. "So, you thought it would be funny to kill my hyperlink capabilities, eh? You don't know what funny is. Now this," she extends her energon blades and cuts off all his extremities, "this is funny." He screams in pain as she transforms. "But this is better." She sticks the barrel-end of her sonic-pulse rifle altmode in his ear and liquifies his brains before he can bleed to death. She transforms back and hyperlinks his remains to the four corners of the worldwide web. "Ah, I feel much better." :)
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Sorry I'm not caught up on the CR, so these may be out of date. I leave for Spring Break in an hour and just don't have the time. Just when I got caught up on Gargs/Pen too. :(

*********Possible Spoilers, if you're WAY behind***********

Is Mary of the Avalon clan Asrial's daughter? She just seems to look a lot like her.(or maybe it's just that Asrial's my favorite DA char)

I love it that you gave Graeme a net-friend in LONDON, by the name of Lucy. Please, please say she's Leo and Una's daughter Lucy. :) *plays song* Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match..... But aren't they a bit young?
***********End possible spoiler****************************

Steve Sobotka> I've been trying to filk "Fly" forever. I just can't get it right. But I was taking it from Castaway's angle. "All around the world, statues crumble for me." Gruesome, ain't?
Best of luck on that TF/garg crossover you mentioned. I can see it now. Starscream and Demona: "Puny flesh creature!" *squish* And Demona dies for the billionth time.

Coyote> I hope your eye's feeling better.

***********Coyote fic spoiler*****************************

I had a thought about genetics and "Moment of Truth". Aren't both Samson and Thorn(in a bizarre sort of way) Goliath's grandchildren? Any resulting egg may not inherit the mutation, but s/he will most certainly be purple. To paraphrase Ryan Stout, "science makes for interesting family trees."
One other note. After reading "Sword of Ares" and "Vinnie Quest", I regret only contributing *one* character to the Army of the Night. Those two make me want to get in there and kick some butt myself.
************End Coyote fic spoilers************************

Jillybean> I don't know about you, but I'd be honored to be compared with the demi-goddess Daria. Don't take guff from anybody, girl!

Jewel> I want to go to Bryn Mawr! Misericordia used to be a fun all girls' school, but now we've gotten rid of all our traditions and started catering to the Powers That Be. :(

Kaioto> That was a lovely description of the true meaning of religion. Too bad we can't get closer to our ideals. :(

Selective service> I'd rather there were no wars whatsoever, but my aim's as good as any man's, and with modern warfare, you don't even need that. I'd be willing, provided the cause was just. Though I'd fight an unjust war tooth and nail, and I'd kill the president sooner than bomb another country to take attention off his misdeeds. Anybody who says girls can't fight, I'd like to introduce you to my buddy Atalanta here. ;)

TTFN! See you in a week!
Wavelength
Friday, February 26, 1999 12:23:49 PM
IP: networkb.miseri.edu

Becoming a gargoyle> Personally, I prefer to remain awake during the day so I'd want to be a hybrid. It would be worth it just to see the look on my professors' faces when I walk into class. As for how I'd look, I'd have a normal gargoyle body with bat-like wings, however I wouldn't have any kind of horns or brow ridges and I's have 5 fingers. I'd have my normal human coloring, but the end of my tail and my wing spars would be white.

****Dis Connect Death****
Peter looks around the comment room and spots DC just recovering from having his head blown off. "Hey you!!". DC runs without even looking to see who it is but finds that he can't move a muscle. "You erased my last post you jerk!!". Peter points a clawed finger at DC and instantly every molecule in his body is 10 times as far from the others as it was before and DC becomes nothing more than a thick, colored gas.
****End Dis Connect Death****

Incidently, my brother was the last one to use my computer before it screwed up. Hmmmm... SURE you didn't have anything to do with this. My brother likes to run EVERYTHING in windows. "Rob, there might be a reason that that game keeps crashing on you."
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:15:43 AM
IP: a103-13.cariboo.bc.ca

Ok, Guys. Temper tantrum on my part. I know the characters need to change simply by nature of the concept. However, I had only seen the shows, and had never set eyes on the sight until two days ago. You have to admit... Four different sagas in two days can bounce your reality check easy. I still like the old Brooklyn better, but I back down on my opinion of the new. As for my story idea, leave it alone! It was a desperate thirty second attempt to put him back where he was. Thanks guys! Until next time!
Caer - [cdaly@qdbc.com]
Lakewood, Colorado, U.S.A.
Friday, February 26, 1999 11:12:52 AM
IP: 209.151.85.73

**RP STUFF**

The Onslaught is approaching the end of the Yosemite Valley, the DJs still being dragged behind it. "Okay!" Shauna yells at them. "You guys look ready to go back!" "Oh yeah!" Sandy yells. "I want to tell this story on our show!" JB, Funky, and Howard Stern smile, Kitainia rolls her eyes. "Freedom of the press, Shaun." Shauna nods and waves to Elena, who sends Stern and the three Austin DJs back where they came from with a quick spell. "Now, as for you, Greaseman," Kitainia thinks. "Okay, got it!" Elena opens another portal, this one to Cambion Central on the 98th layer of the Abyss. The racist jerkhead is thrown into it, there to be tortured to death by big dark-skinned and white-haired demonspawn for the rest of his mortal life. Elena closes the portal. Doug thanks her (he was getting sick of the DJs moaning in pain) and turns to make a CR post.

**PAUSE RP**

Lauryn Hill: I too have enjoyed her music. But even if I hadn't, the Greaseman deserves everything he's getting from us.

Zath: I'm not sure if the West Mall is the one where you can go nude or not. I've never seen anyone do it. I do know it's a free-speech area. $ Thanks for the info on Weird Ed. Maybe we can make him the CMS, maybe not. Still considering other names. $

Lonny: Oh, I will have a dreadful birthday, believe me. Classes all day, one of them has a test. Homework. Mother calling me and having to endure her boring repretoire of endless drivel. It's all yawn. But at least there'll be a great Ally McBeal ep that night, along with cake, coke, pizza, videogames, and my very special present from Kitainia. Maybe that will make it all worth it.

Mary: Thanks for the support. I definitely do like good looks and great personality in a girl better than "long legs and big attachments." My girlfriend doesn't have either (legs medium length, 34Bs), but I don't care about that since I love her so much and she has so many other good qualities. At least everything she has is real, and it's spectacular.

Fleur: Read your fanfic. Good job, I like the original characters. Hope to soon see more from you.

**BEGIN TIMEDANCER SPOILERS**

Sun and Serpent 4: Great episode, definitely a worthy conclusion to the four. I thought Harthoth looked a lot like Khensu! Good development on him, Brooklyn, Sata, Thoth, Isis, and Meryt. I also liked the Ureaus action, megalomania, and death scene. Isfet also had some great action and excellent lines, so did her father. Hope to see them all in TGS (I mean the others, I know I'll see Brooklyn and Sata) again someday.

Hmm, so dragons can't kill people with magic, eh? Kitainia sends her thanks to Taleweaver for answering that question. I have three further questions about it. One, why can't dragons kill with magic? Is it a curse on their race or a natural restriction? Two, if fay can't give life with magic, how come they can heal people, change their ages, and make people immortal? Three, does a dragon's breath weapon count as magic? (I hope not, before all's said and done I want to see TGS dragons burn at least some people to a crisp!) Thanks in advance to anyone who answers these.

**SPOILERS END**

Steve: Great 2nd chapter in your Rock novelization. I look forward to the next one (the one that'll contain "Tour's over, Bob.", "What kind of f&^*ed-up tour is this?", and other of my favorite lines from the film). Thanks for the offer on that small arms list. I'll call you if I need it. I will also definitely be giving Seth some kind of weapon like that anti-tank rifle you mentioned shortly after he comes back into my fic. I wonder how effective it will be against Zenthran fighter ships.

Wilek: $ Really? Damn it, now we can't have any more fun with Kenny. Oh well, maybe sometime we can have him and DC get into a big fight (maybe DC screwed up Kenny's computer) and kill each other millions of times. <chuckle> $

Gargs and Basilisks: I don't think gargs can be turned to stone. Remember when Medusa gazed at Brooklyn and it didn't affect him? So they shouldn't have too much trouble with the basilisks. Humans are another story.

Caer: I agree with the other people in here who've responded to you. I like Brooklyn the way he's grown up, and I like his family. (Wait till you see what happens to the kids in 'Slayer Senshi.') The character would be dull and boring if he didn't develop, as would any character from Gargs or another TV show. So, sorry but for a show like Gargs, no way your idea would wash. If you want to do it, though, go write some one-star (that's what I'll probably give it) fanfic.

Mandi: My next fic is proceeding slowly too. I've been debating with how to work Chapel into the saga. (He might be a reformed Unseelie trickster, I'm not yet sure, I just know he was definitely once in constant contact with Silvan.) I'll start on the Buffy crossover after this one, hopefully it will be done and posted soon. After that story, I'll be doing another triptych of tales- "Goblins," "Blind Date" (Nikki and Matt), and "Sword of Prejudice." Then a Party on Avalon fic involving Seth and Rachel, don't have a title for it yet. After that we'll see the Zenthrans for the first time in my fic, in "Forerunners."

Kaioto: I also agree with everything you've said about religion.

Blue: Great! Looking forward to your comments. Also waiting for Traveler's on "The Blackout."

Jewel: Sorry, Kit and I still don't get that shirt's joke. Is it saying that you can't have sex at Bryn Mawr? Because the way you've talked about the school, it sounds like the students have a lot of sexual connotation in their lives. If they don't have it, they must come pretty damn close! :)

Immortal Kenny: Thanks, Kitainia, for telling me about the idea shortly after you aired it in here. And thanks to Steve for answering the question. Okay, Kenny, you and Sheppard (and Connor) are going to have a climactic encounter sometime in my fic.

Would I be a garg?: I don't know. Probably not. I don't like the idea of being vulnerable at sunrise and never seeing the sun again. My girlfriend is a half-garg in RP, though. Maybe if I could be like her I'd do it.

Wilek: $ The latter. Thailog has one more powerful evil wizard working for him (in addition to the deceased Masked Lich and switched-sides DM Wilek). His name is Kharsus. As for Nipon's fleet, he has one Eclipse-class destroyer, a super, two imperials, and four victories, each with a full complement of TIE fighters, bombers, and interceptors. And that World Devestator, of course. How do they all fit into Thailog's secret base? Well, the base is big as hell. As we'll find out when we eventually get there. :) $

Cute Girls (Hey, if girls can do this for guys, let us be equal): Sarah Michelle Gellar, Alyson Hannigan, Claire Furlani, Keri Russell, Angela, Elisa, Arianna (she'd look good in a leather jacket too), Fox, and of course Kitainia. :)

That's all for now, later!

**RP AGAIN**

Doug suddenly slows the truck down as they approach the valley's exit, seeing an odd figure standing in the middle of the road (and of course not wanting to hit him). The figure is built like a very hairy grizzly bear and dressed like a hippie, but is carrying a huge chaingun cannon. Doug guesses he's not the peace-loving hippie type, and asks him, "Uh, could you please move? Who do you think you are standing in the road like that?" "I am Gatling Grizzly, the Ice Man!!" the hippie yells, aiming his chaigun at the truck and beginning to fire. "Koo Koo Kahcoo!!!" Doug dives behind the steering wheel as yet another RP battle begins. Oh boy.

Meanwhile, on the Dark Star, Miriam is still battling her 'evil twin.' She swings her lightsaber and disarms him, placing the blade of her weapon against the guy's neck. "Obviously," she says, "that isn't a weapon you're used to." "Right you are!" the false Miriam shouts in a very masculine voice, pulling out a FA-MAS assault rifle and Stinger missile launcher. "Take this!" He fires both at Miriam, who dodges the blasts and manages to kick the guy in the head, knocking off his wig and glasses. Miriam and Wilek drop their jaws and gasp in disgusted shock as Vapor Serpent is revealed underneath. "You're dead, bitch!" Serpent yells at Miriam. "You'll pay for making me have to dress like you!" The screen goes blank. To be continued.

**END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, February 26, 1999 10:46:44 AM
IP: smf-f5.facsmf.utexas.edu

"Sex kills": <g> Y'all are missing the joke. The front says "Sex kills" The back says "...come to Bryn Mawr and live forever." Thank about it for a minute or so... ;)

jewel - [jfaulkne@brynmawr.edu]
Friday, February 26, 1999 09:39:55 AM
IP: pemw-83.brynmawr.edu

Caer> I disagree with your opinion of Brooklyn as well. He still has his occasional smart-ass remarks, which is good, but I think with all that's happened to him, it's time to say bye to the old Brooklyn and get used to the new. I personally find the Timedancer stories much more entertaining than the Gargs TV eps centered around Brooklyn (like Temptation and Kingdom) And I don't remember who said it, but I agree with whoever said a static character would be dull, and frankly dumb, if Brooklyn didn't learn from his encounter with Demona, or any of the other stuff, he should have his head checked.
Malibu Nylkoorb
Friday, February 26, 1999 07:33:15 AM
IP: ip236.minneapolis6.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

Hey all,

First, before I begin, a grisly Mr. Dis Connect death for all of your pleasure:

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Steve walks up to a hapless Mr. DC, who is merrily disconnecting various internet users and screwing with their browsers at will. Steve taps him on the shoulder and when he turns around, shoves the barrel of a Barrett M82 .50 caliber sniper rifle into his mouth. "This gun takes out tanks at 200 yards," Steve says. "This is for wiping my last CR post before I had the chance to submit it!"

DC whimpers softly, probably in a pitiful attempt to atone for his many sins. Steve will hear nothing of it, and pulls the trigger, blowing DC's cerebellum into a low earth orbit. The authorities find pieces of his skull from here to Rochester.
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Ahhhhhh, that felt Gooooooood.

Well, now that that's done, where was I? Ah yes. Tomor- er, *today,* I finally get to go skiing after missing several opportunities over break and a downhill PE class this semester. [Grumbles about CU's insane swim test requirement]. Now I just have to figure out a way to camoflauge my headphones, 'cause I hear the ski lift operators won't let you on with music playing. Why? Who knows. Maybe they want you to *hear* the tree coming before you slam into it.

Stephen Sobotka > I also can't wait to check out this Gargs/TF X-over. I can just imagine some Autobot, like Bumblebee, going up to Coyote V 6.0 (or whatever he's up to now) and saying, "Hello. What do you transform into?" To which our favorite robot responds, "A nuclear-powered, unstoppable killing machine." :)

Argent > I sympathize with your dental woes. Your dilemma reminds me of the one year I had five teeth pulled and oral surgery once. Every saturday for a month I'd go to the dentist and have one yanked out, and the oral surgeon was a psycho. Trust me, you do NOT want to know how he took the stitches out! Hope all that gets better for you.

Peter > Try going into setup the next time you reboot and check your BIOS settings. It's possible that the computer stopped recognizing it, and all it needs is to be reset.

Kitainia > Doug can take all the liberties he wants, as writers that's our God-given right :) Let him know that if he needs any info regarding small arms or anything vaguely related to the military, lemme know. Small arms are fresh in my mind 'cause I just finished making up a giant weapons directory for an online RPG about Navy SEALs that I was supposed to run with some friends. But it fizzled, so I'm stuck with this great reference and nothing to do with it. Oh well :)

Also, I consulted with my roommate, who's a big Highlander fan. He told me that Kenny survived both his encounters with Duncan; Duncan spared his life the first time, Amanda spared him the second time around.

Mary > Bond in "Goldeneye" was Pierce Brosnan.

(Would you become a gargoyle if given the chance?) Hmm, let me carefully consider this for a moment...

[Quarter second later]

YES! Absolutely. Life on the ground is so dull, and boring. At least mine is, anyway. As for looks, I've got a pic that I drew, and maybe someday I'll get around to posting it, but for now the link is reserved for...

***SHAMELESS PLUG!!!***

For all interested parties, Chapter two of The Rock Novelization Project is now available. Click my name to get to the newly-designed TRNP page.

***END PLUGGING***

[Yawn] All righty, must get rest before ski trip. And on that note...

==Skiing combines outdoor fun with knocking down trees with your face.
-- Dave Barry==

'Night all
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Friday, February 26, 1999 04:49:44 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

Sorry about the double post but I need to correct something and add something else.
In the RP it should read "...Traveler getting genetic samples..."

DumlaoX-More pictures and stuff? COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Well see ya later. AGAIN
Jaden
Friday, February 26, 1999 01:57:13 AM
IP: pm0-36.vpop1.avtel.net

****SHORT RP!!!****
Doug calls over to Jaden, "Earlier you said something about Traveler get genetic samples from dinosaurs; any ideas on what he wanted them for?"
"Not really but for some reason I have a feeling we're going to find soon enough." To be continued.
****END RP!!!****

Well I'm not sure how I did on my mid-term but I have high hopes that I passed...Please God! Please God! Please God!
And thank you all for your wishes of luck.

Spice Girls-Could you imagine them showing up at Gathering99?

Gargoyle songs-I think the song from Highlander fits perfectly.

Mary Flanders-I heard about that movie and I was thinking about see it when it came out. Though maybe I should go see the original first.

Jim Carrey-Oh Lord.

Silver Arrow-19, male. Working toward a degree in Administration of Justice and I don't think I've ever met someone like myself outside the Internet.

Argent-I know what your going through, believe me. My dentist said that my teeth are stuborn like no other. He once pulled out a tooth that should have fallen out on its own, there was nothing holding it there. It just refused to move.

Well I'm off to read that lastest TD. See Ya later!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Friday, February 26, 1999 01:53:31 AM
IP: pm0-36.vpop1.avtel.net

Kitaina>Hmmm...cute guys.....:)

Cute Guys (in no paticular order)
1)David Bornez (Angel)He can bite my neck any night!!!!!!! ;P
2)Brooklyn(He looks so cool in a leather jacket!!)
3)Scott Foley (Noel)
4)Greg (Dharma and Greg)
5)Matt Bluestone (If he were 16, he'd fit right in with my freinds!)
6)Sean Connery (I know, it's sick. But he was so good in The Medicine Man! But he wasn't very good looking when he was young. Nice to know some things improve with age! ;P)
7) Whats-his-face, the James Bond in GoldenEye

hmmm...can't think of anymore at the moment. *looks at her list* Hehehehe....I wouldn't mind playing strip poker with this bunch! ;)
Mary Flanders
Friday, February 26, 1999 12:28:04 AM
IP: ramp-1-27.ucdavis.edu

**WE GOT RP OVER HERE!**

[On the bridge...the real team is in a battle royale with the fake one, and merry havoc has broken loose. The real Jake and Teri are in a brawl with their fairly evenly matched clones, the two Forfexxes are trying (and failing due to their liquid nature) to shred each other. The two Anoths are throwing lightning and fire at each other, decimating the command center. Most interesting is the fight between Dark Mage Wilek and Wilek Fieger II. As WF2 has no magic powers, he's being slaughtered. DMW commands his vampire eagles in an arcane language, and they latch their beaks onto his throat, exsanguinating him. DMW laughs evilly. "You'll be useful later..." But where's the rest of the evil team?...

Meanwhile, the real and fake Miriams are in a lightsaber duel--and guess who's winning--while Wilek's taking apart the nuclear bomb. This particular model is surprisingly simplistic in its construction; disarming it involves merely cutting the power to the implosion device that brings the two plutonium cores together to cause a chain reaction. Too bad it's under a few layers of some hyperalloy that even gargoyle claws can't penetrate...]

**LET'S PAUSE IT 4 NOW**

Argent> Ack! Good luck with your dental woes! (Me, I could never go to a dentist. There's just something...indescribably crawly...about someone putting scientific instruments into an orifice of my body. O_o )

Welcome Caer! Oh, and your Brook suggestion...creative, but...if the staff did that, they's be cursed with immortality, tied to trees, and many TGS readers would come to 'greet' them with cheese graters, bottles of acid, cats-o-nine-tails, and belt sanders. And I'd be first in line.

Peter> EEK! Memmaker deleted your D: drive?! Ack, how can such things be?!

James Birdsong> So THAT's who the other Kenny is...

Mary> Eesh, I can understand aversion to contacts. Really, the cornea was never meant to have anything except the inside of the eyelid remain in contact with it for any length of time; I think contacts often cause health problems. (Case in point: The aunt of a friend of mine had a rather serious problem when a contact almost slid around to the back of her eye socket. It had to be extracted (please don't ask) and she's worn glasses ever since.)

Jewel> You're sick? Ack, hurry up and get well; we need your particular Bryn Mawr brand of zaniness here! <g> <<We have a T-shirt that says, "Sex Kills" on the front.>> I wish that thing were available in stores. ;)

Kyryn> You're sick too?! ACK, IT'S A BLASTED EPIDEMIC! RUN FOR THE HILLS BEFORE THE HILLS ARE INFECTED!

SJ> $Hm...interesting RP. Wonder who this stranger is. We'll find out soon enough though; I suppose. <g>$ This Greaseman...is evil incarnate. He is the vilest, most sickening piece of trash in the entire multiverse. He should be BOILED IN HIS OWN BLOOD, SKINNED, DIPPED IN ACID, AND GUTTED WITH A DULL SCYTHE. I'll do that if I ever run into this SOB.

Kitainia> $Umm...are all Nipon's ships Victory-class or smaller, or is his fleet recieving magical assistance in order to maneuver in an atmosphere? (Probably the latter...)$

Coyote> Hmm...that Exonizer site sounds a little TOO strict. Eesh.

**WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED RATHER LONG RP!**

[In the command center, Jake and Teri are at a stalemate with their clones. Teri: "I think I saw a Reboot episode something like this! The guys and their evil reflections were so much alike that they couldn't beat each other! But when someone helped out--" Anoth: "I think I understand what you're suggesting!" He spares just a moment from his own battle to zap Jake's evil clone with a bolt of psionic lighting, then returns to defending himself. Evil Jake staggers, just long enough to be beaten to death by the real one. The now-lone Evil Teri beats a hasty retreat, leaving the original and her husband to concentrate on helping Anoth. Both the mutates whip out their firearms and begin firing at Anoth's clone. The bullets are deflected by his psionic shield, and he turns to fry the beings who fired them--and the real Anoth uses the distraction to hover directly over his clone's head, then charge up and fire a colossal psionic fireball straight downward, crushing his evil twin. (If he'd done it in any other direction, he would have blown a hole in the ceiling or the wall and caused a hull breach. There's nothing of crucial importance right under the floor, though.) Jake quips, "Wow, dontcha think you should have yelled 'Kamehameha' first?" Anoth: "Kameha...what?" Apparently he's never seen DragonBall Z...]

**IT'S OVER FOR NOW; RETURN TO YOUR HOMES.**
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, February 25, 1999 11:50:17 PM
IP: tnt-1-154-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**RP!!**

**The screen lights up to reveal ... Charlotte and the tank, now just crossing the state line into New Mexico. Coyote is still accessing the Web with his laptop, but now Ravyn has joined Jimmie in the back seat, catching a catnap.**

Hey now, what's this? **taps some keys** Oh Lordy ... **picks up handheld radio** Jason, you awake, come back?

<"Yeah, Coyote, what's up?">

How are our weapons stores?

<"A little low ... we might have to resort to shooting beer cans out the turret again.">

Oh sure, like *that* was healthy for the tank ... gather what you can and get ready to rumble. I don't know when, but I just have a gut feeling we're going to see some action soon.

**PAUSE RP!!**

Steve, re female combat pilots: **applause**

Wilek: Actually, yes there is. It's a joke site called the Exonizer (named after the senator who was the main sponsor of the original CDA), which has a CGI-script program that will eliminate any potentially offensive words and replace them with <CENSORED>, Usually, though, the exclusions are trying to make a point that anything in the wrong hands could be considered offensive ... it'll eliminate words that can be anagrammed into potential sexual innuendo as well as blatant words, sometimes completely out of context (it censors the word "foot.").

Argent: I sympathize. That kind of thing is why I have my current phobia of dentists.

Peter: Wish I could help ya, but it sounds like your D: drive may have been a virtual drive that Memmaker could have wiped. Of course, that's a sight-unseen opinion.

Deuce: Think of it this way ... it could've been *much* worse. You could've been working in an auto parts store and dropped a battery, cracking the casing and splattering battery acid from hell to breakfast. That actually happened at the store the other day. Scary stuff ... especially considering the acid stripped the wax off the floor. Eep.

Contact Lenses: I wear them. I like them because of their convenience ... no need to spend an extra $300 for a pair of prescription sunglasses. However, I have had my moments ... I think the cut that gave me my current iritis was caused by me rubbing an eye with a contact lens in it, thereby cutting the surface of my eye with the lens, then working in an obscenely dusty environment. :P

DumlaoX: Why not share? Enough of us have used this room to vent ... even a lot of really serious stuff ... so there should be no reason why the room admin can't do some venting of his own. So please, bend our ears, my friend.

SJ: I completely agree with your mini-rant. Except for the death part. I say keep the Greaseman alive ... just flay him. :)

Matt Frewer as a villain: Not always great ... Russell Tresh was a lame-ass (FYI, Frewer played Russell Tresh in that Gawd-awful "Generation X" telefilm a couple years back. I taped it, the main reason being that this was as close as we could get to an X-Men movie at that time ... not to mention the fact that one of the comic GenX'ers they kept in the movie was Jubes.).

Being a gargoyle: I actually have changed my mind from the answer to this same question I gave about three months ago in this room that, IIRC, really raised the ire of Lady Mystic and Kitainia.
Now that I think of it ... I think I would *really* enjoy the gargoyle way of life ... not to mention *being* one. :)

**RESUME RP!!**

**Ravyn rouses in the back seat, after hearing Coyote talking on the radio.**

< **yawn** "What's happening?">

Looks like I'm still being haunted by Preston's ghost ... check this out.

**Ravyn leans forward, scanning the website Coyote's looking at.**

<"Is that what I think it is?">

Yeah it is. It's a bounty on our heads. **looks at Jimmie.** *All* of our heads. Got a weapon handy?

**Ravyn nods seriously, reaching under the driver's seat and pulling out one of Coyote's sawed-off shotguns.**

<"I'm ready.">

Great. We're going to have to be ready for *anything.*

**Ravyn places a hand on Coyote's shoulder. Just then, a shot disrupts Charlotte's path, making the convertible swerve. Coyote looks behind them, past the tank ... and sees the assault chopper.**

HEADS UP! HERE IT COMES!!

**The screen chooses that inconvenient time to wink off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, February 25, 1999 11:10:54 PM
IP: modem20.i-is.com

Being a gargoyle> Glowing eyes when p.o.'ed is good enough.
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:55:51 PM
IP: pppa118.connect.ab.ca

Yup, I have an evil twin. I'm still not sure how that works out since Lonny's a year older than me... But as we generally share the same views on most things, (Except he has an evil twist on most stuff) pretty much any comments he makes will apply for me...

SJ- Lonny says he "Has not your evil twin Mr. Bigglesworth, but if he ever does, he'll throw him in the dungeon." Funny, I didn't know we had a dungeon at my house...

Character names- I have a few methods, but the two best names I've ever come up with are Venal and Tvaltin. Then of course there's the puns, like Jim Iza Noying, Kari Kanbea Pest, and Night Mare...

Garg songs- The main Nights theme, for Sega Saturn...
"In a dream I could see, you are not far away. Anytime anyplace, I could see your face. You are that special one, I've been waiting for, and I hope you're looking for someone like me. In my dreams I can hear you calling me, in the night everythings so sweet, in your eyes, there's so much inside..."

Incidentally, that is one of the coolest games ever, and one of the main reasons I got a Saturn... WHich you can now find for 50 bucks if you look...

Argent- Teeth stuff... Ick... I sympathise thoguh I can't say I feel your pain, cause I haven't...

Caer- I have to disagree. Brooklyn is as good a character as he ever was, perhaps more so. As stories go on, characters CHANGE. If they didn't, they'd be real dull. Would you like it if he still believed whatever Demona told him like he did at the start of Temptation? Probably not. WOuld you like it if he had just hounded Maggie and not done anything else until he had her? Probably not. Angela? Same deal. If a character doesn't grow, they aren't entertaining. Besides, I like his family, the responsibility it gives him. Not to mention your idea for cancelling all that out is pretty lame to start with. Not only is Brooklyn not boring, he's cooler than he used to be! I mean, before he always defferred to Goliath and now he doesn't... I could go on and on about this, but I think I've made my point, and Kitainia also said a lot earlier, and I agree wholeheartedly with what was said there.

The third immortal Kenny- Egads, I can't believe Lonny didn't know that. I was a decent Highlander fan whenthe show was on, I would have known that, and Lonny should have.

Mary- If I could be a gargoyle... I asked this question in the main CR last week and my answer is YES! The wings and flying and claws and neato glowing eyes alone are worth it! As far as the look? Well, my first thought is Brooklyn, but the beak would hurt the neck ya know. So I'd probably go in for the Talon look, having long liked the feline anthromorph form...

As far as the good looking guys conversation... Um, I'm really NOT qualified to talk about that one myself.

Dumlao- 102 images... Fun fun...

Green Baron- Why are you purple lately?

**MORE POST PARTY STUFF** (click!)

Two well dressed men arrive at Jim's mansion, examine the remains of the the sperm whale and bowl of petunias. The older of the two pulls something out of his pockets, they both put on shades, and a flash of light erases the scene from everyone's memories.
"Neat trick J and K." The two MIB turn to see Jim Iza Noying, and flash him again.
"Stop that, it hurts my eyes." They try again, to no effect. There seems to be a problem. The men in black grab Jim and drag him back to headquarters, wipe his brain there with more advanced eqipment, then drop him off back home at his ruined mansion. Jim shrugs and wonders what the point of that was.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:17:54 PM
IP: spider-to051.proxy.aol.com

Oops. NOW click my name for a weird pic of me and my flute (and a Christmas tie!).
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:54:46 PM
IP: pppa118.connect.ab.ca

Mary Flanders> ["If you could be a gargoyle, what would you like to look like, for how long, and what would you do during that time?"] Hmm. Good question. I'd be a little more muscled than I am now, but I'd guess my haircut (short and shaggy) and face (click my name for a pic) would be the same. Basic look: pale grey skin, Demona-type red hair, and dark blue eyes. I'd stay like that a couple weeks, I guess, and scare the piss out of everybody I know. :-)

Silver Arrow> I'm 14, and male, although that's been made quite clear over the last week.

Names in fanfic> I just grab them out of nowhere. I even use made-up last names.

SJ> That _DJ_ should be dragged behind a truck. What a sick comment. ["Good Lord, the power of adolescent hormones!"] Don't get me started on this. Please. <Perverse comment deleted>

"Sex Kills"> I've heard that it can actually be very good for your health. No further comment.
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:50:49 PM
IP: pppa118.connect.ab.ca

After reading all these comments and the new TD, my eyes are about to pop out of my head! Sorry about not chattin last night, but that whole thing about getting sleep for the TAAS has some credit. But it's over now :) I don't have school tomorrow but I still have to go for a 5 hour dress rehearsal for our Lionette Spring Show next week. Same for Saturday and Sunday, so pardon me if I seem a little disoriented this next week.

Jason & Brian> Welcome to the CR! I'm cool, so don't worry about any trouble from me :)

Silver Arrow> I'm a 16 yr old female in sophomore year. But people say I act much more mature...I think.

I got the coolest idea last night. I'm thinking of buying a sweatshirt with my name SOROW printed on the front. I also thought it'd be cool if everyone else's name from the CR was printed on the back, but then you guys would sue me.

Give me some time to think of garg songs and I'll get back to everyone.

OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:50:29 PM
IP: usr1-3-dialup26.mix1.irving.cw.net

***** Spoilers of Sun and Serpent Watch out *****
On dragons for Kitiana> Just a response since I saw your note. Dragons can kill, they just can't do it with magic. Apep didn't chomp down on Uraeus just for fun. He thought he was taking out for good.

And believe me, there are worst things than death. You want to talk about bloodthirsty, in Speech & Debate I always went against the death penalty. My primary argument was that you can only kill a person once. Swept through a round of Congress on that one.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:40:21 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

Character Names: I usually don't have problems with that. I go with the direct approach in my fanfiction. Find their personality archetype (No character of mine has ever just sprung fully formed. First they get attitude, then they spring) For my own stuff, I usually give make up names and create the meaning for it. My parents had me in a time when Black folks wanted African names for their children. That I'm cool with, but lately some names *shakes his head* I won't even get into that. Though, don't be afraid to experiment. You can change a name midstream if it fits.

Harlan Ellison as Pope> Well when I heard Kaioto describe the man he wanted as pope. Harlan just leaped to mind. I saw him on the Sci-Fi Buzz. Caustic and bombastic, but I kinda liked him. It's true, there where times we I wanted to say, 'You don't know what you're talking about', but he shot from the hip. And he got my respect. See you all later.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:31:08 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

**RP STUFF**

The screen lights up with the middle of a huge ocean. In an awesome display of pouring water and swirling steam, a huge gateway opens in its center. Nipon's fleet of Star Destroyers comes down out of the clouds and descends through the gateway, which closes behind them. Due to radar cloaking, and the Dark Star being occupied, they have managed to reach Thailog's secret base undetected. Uh oh.

Meanwhile, the Onslaught is heading through the Yosemite Valley, on its way to San Francisco, CA. From the passenger seat beside Doug (who's driving), Kitainia turns to make a CR post.

**PAUSE RP**

Kaioto: Man, you sure have a lot of interesting things to say about religion. I agree with every one, thank you for sharing them. I especially like that line about how the Church is a sheperd, but that doesn't mean people have to be sheep.

DumlaoX: More pics coming? Alright, I can hardly wait to see them. Hope Gore gets them in the room quickly.

Silver Arrow: I'm an 19 year old college student, psychologist-in-training, gamer, bookstore worker, writer's helper, and all-around cool girl.

On the Waterfront: Great movie. Brando's best. I too enjoyed that line- "I could have been a contender." (And in the end, of course he was one.)

Tick: I remember that show. It was so hilarious. My favorite episodes were "The Terror" and the one where Arthur tried becoming someone else's sidekick. <mimics> "I don't know, Die Fleadermaus. Don't you EVER fight crime?" <DF flips his magazine pages> "Fight crime? I might get hurt!" The show also spawned a very neat FinalFight-style videogame.

Christine: Ah ha, I thought you were Illuminati! Does Tim know about this? :)

Mary: I can sympathize with the way you're feeling about stupid boys refusing to notice you and acting like dorks. I've experienced the same. I think that's why I'm more attracted to older more mature guys, especially ones with beards and/or glasses (Doug has both, of course :).

You want to talk about cute guys? Okay, I can handle that sort of conversation. IMO, the three cutest actors on TV now are Nicholas Brendan (aka Xander), Anthony Stewart Head (yes, he's old enough to be my father, but I still think he's cute and cool), and Noel from Felicity. Even though I haven't been watching that last show recently, I think it may be turning into another boring twentysomethings sitcom. Cute movie actors include Nicolas Cage (going to see him tomorrow in 8mm), Christopher Walken, Robert deNiro, and a few others who I can't think of right now (But I definitely agree with you about DiCaprio).
If you really want to get a talk like this going, start it off with some kind of survey like this one (hope we can keep it within the CR rules).
Top Three Cutest Coolest Guys on Gargoyles In Your Opinion: For me, it's Xanatos, Matt, and Macbeth. Or if you want other species- Brooklyn, Broadway, Goliath. Talon is also somewhere on the list. Anyone else want to get into this discussion?

Grinch: Jim Carrey will have fun with this role, I know he will. But I wonder how they'll make it live-action. The story has the kind of plot only a kid would instantly appreciate, and thus it works better as a cartoon.

Parasite Eve: Very neat game. Hopefully it will also be a good movie.

Eight Days a Week: I doubt Keri Russell will be shown naked in this one. I read something on the Net about how she's never posed nude and never wants to. <collective anguished sigh from several guys in the room> But it still looks like a good and very funny film. Doug and I shall see it, and post our reviews.

Robby: So you have an evil twin? Uh oh. I wonder if Heather also has one. (If so, Lonny should see her and get all goggly-eyed.) <grin> That'll teach him to understand love!

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR NEW TIMEDANCER EPISODE**

Sun and Serpent Pt. 4: Great plot in this episode, and character development. I loved the increase of affection between Brooklyn and Sata (especially in the opening and closing sequences). Meryt was also well-developed, so were Thoth and Isis. And I loved all the lines Isfet delivered ("You thought you could live after doublecrossing a dragon?")! Ureaus had great villain development, excellent action sequences, and a very cool death scene. Good job with Apep, too, I like him as a ghost dragon. As for Harthoth, I too was shocked to discover he was also Khensu. Good development of him also. I hope we someday see more of him, Isfet, and Apep (as well as other dragons) in upcoming episodes.

So this ep gets an 8/10. I only have one small problem with it. What's that? Up until now, I liked the way TGS is doing dragons. Now I'm not so sure. Their bodies, powers, and reputations are all so destructive, and they can't take life? Excuse me, but that just doesn't sound right. It makes dragons annoying, but not that dangerous in and of themselves. They have to depend on effects of their attacks (falling buildings, iron rivers, etc.) to kill anyone, and thus I think they lose something as villains. Don't get me wrong, I like how the fay and dragons can't hurt each other with their powers. But I think Isfet, Apep, and the other TGS dragons are great villains, and they must not be diminished by denying them a danger that is so much a part of draconic myths. Can everyone understand why I'm thinking this. I hope so. Apart from this problem with the dragons, and the fact that the story's bad guys were left as threats (I expected them to be eliminated in the story, oh well), this ep was great!

**SPOILERS ARE OVER**

Steve: Doug sends his thanks for the weapons site. As for Laura's gun, he says it can hold ten shots. The bullets are as advanced as the gun thanks to Illuminati technology. Smaller, more compact, armor-piercing, explode shortly after contact with target. And they also have better rifling techniques and increased accuracy and velocity. Yes, Doug knows he's taking liberties, but he is writing fiction after all. And he doesn't know much more about weapons technology than the average layman who's read Tom Clancy books and played a lot of wargames. That gun you mentioned sounds cool, too. I wonder if Doug will be making someone in the saga wield one. (BTW, he would have told you all this himself, but I'm saving him the trouble.)

Stephen RS: I'm number three on the list of people who like your crossovers. As for Gargs/Transformers- I can hardly wait to read it. Please don't forget to say so in here as soon as you've got it done.

Caer: Welcome to the CR. And you want Brooklyn to be a static character? No offense, but IMO that would be really wrong. Why? Because Gargs has no static main characters. That's one thing I've always liked about it. All the main characters develop and change as the story progresses, and to a lesser degree so do the secondary ones. It's more like real life, and thus makes the show and its story more interesting to me. Yes, in the process some of the characters become not how we might like them to be, but you have to take the bad with the good, don't you? Also, your plot idea is IMHO really cheesy, dumb, and cliched. The Wyrd Sisters would never do that. Nor would the clan allow it to happen (and they would have serious issues with Brooklyn changing so abruptly back to his old self!). And how would Brooklyn retain the wisdom of his timedancing without his memories of it? That just doesn't seem right to me. Wisdom and learning partially depend on memory, after all. Lastly, you want to do WHAT to such great characters as Ari, Sata, and Graeme? You want to just send them away for no apparent reason, like they never existed in TGS? Sorry, that would be completely wrong. Bad idea, don't even think about it. Sell it to Power Rangers, but not Gargs. I don't think any writer who truly wants to honor and appreciate the show with their fics would even consider that kind of story.

I also disagree with you about Brooklyn being boring. He is not boring, he is still an exciting character. Just look at all the things he does in the Timedancer eps recently, would a dumb boring character do all that? Becoming a family man is also a great way to develop Brooklyn and I like the way he is now. He's still the same old Brooklyn in many ways, but he's also gotten older and wiser, and thus his change is not a bad thing. It's a good thing, Brooklyn's grown-up. We all knew it was going to happen, Greg was planning this development and TGS has now done it along with the writers of a few other fanfic universes. Sorry you don't like it, but I don't think most of us want it to be changed. Next topic.

Kenny from Highlander: Quick question for all Highlander fans in here. I know Highlander- The Series is over now, but did they ever finish off Kenny? If not, great. If so, okay, but oh well. Why am I asking? Let's just say I have a rather nasty fanfic idea for Doug (that involves Kenny), and I want to see whether or not he can do it before I make the suggestion. Thanks in advance to whoever tells us yes or no.

Jewel: Bryn Mawr has a T-shirt that says "Sex Kills?" Okay, someone needs to wake up and hear the news in their clothing department. Yes, sex has its dangers, but the act in and of itself does not kill people. I really hope people don't take that shirt literally.

Contacts: I used to wear these. They made my eyes itch a lot, but I had to see straight (and glasses had a habit of falling off my nose a lot and getting broken). Thank God for laser-vision correction and a father willing to pay for it! <grin>

SJ: Lauryn Hill. I love that girl's music (and of course my friend Shauna adores it, she plays it all the time), and cheered when she got the Grammys. So I REALLY agree with you about that DJ. $ I even think I'll work him and a certain few other radio personalities I hate into the RP, look below for what we're doing with them. Muhahahaha!! $

Guess that's all I have to say for now. Talk to y'all later!

**MORE RP STUFF**

Screams begin echoing from behind the Onslaught. "What's that?" Doug asks. "Shauna and Elena went by DC and Austin via one of her portals a moment ago," Kitainia says. "Something about picking up really obnoxious and rude radio personalities." Doug grabs his cell phone, calls Shauna (who's in the trailer), and asks her about the DJs. "It's Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern, JB and Sandy (two really stupid guys on Kitainia's and my favorite radio station's morning show, they always make really dumb disgusting humor and sometimes take up hours with talk that could better be devoted to music), Funky (JB and Sandy's partner-in-crime, who willingly creates several of the embarrassing and stupid situations they joke about), and some guy named the Greaseman who badmouthed Lauryn Hill. I guess they finally woke up, huh?" "Yes," Doug says. "What exactly are you doing with them?" "They're chained to the back of the truck, and being brutally banged against every rock and stone you roll over. I'll send Rush back home in a minute, he's looking like he's learned his lesson. The others I'll keep around until they die painfully. I'm also gonna diguise myself as Lauryn Hill (easy task, Shauna does look a lot like her) later and stand at the back door laughing at them." "May I join you?" Kitainia asks. Shauna chuckles, "Of course, girl! Happy to have your wit with me!" "Good," Kitainia chuckles, knowing those jerk radio guys deserve everything they're getting. On a ridge near them in the valley, a small group of soldiers watches the truck through binoculars. One reads Kitainia's thoughts (evil psionicist) and chuckles. "For you Ravens," she says, "it will soon be the same. So sayeth Storm Eagle!" The screen snaps off.

**END RP FOR NOW**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 09:28:05 PM
IP: dal-qbu-zoq-vty78.as.wcom.net

****RP SPOILERS****
Deep within whereever the bad guys hang out when they're not trying to take over the world.....

Thailog folds his hands behind his back and turns to face his "guest". His visitor had arrived moments before, wearing a cloak and hood that totally covered his body and kept his identity in secrecy. The only reason Thailog had agreed to talk to him was that he held vital info on Thailog's plans--info no one outside his inner circle knew about--and he had offered his assistance.
"So," Thailog said, pacing a bit. "You come here, knowing all about my plans. And claiming you can help me destroy the Earth Resistance and conquer Earth. How, pray tell, do you plan to do that?"
<<My Race is quite powerful, Thailog>> the stranger rasped. His voice was barely above a whisper. <<We have many resources at our disposal.>>
"What kind of resources?"
<<My race is quite prolific in terms of population. We have WORLDS, Thailog. Worlds ready to join your cause...for a price.>>
"What price?"
<<The human race. They must die.>>
"Hmm....well, I had wanted a few million of them for slaves....but perhaps we can reach an agreement. Once I have Earth under my control, the humans are of little consequence. But how do you know so much about me and my plan? Who are you?"
The strange figure stepped forward. Slowly, he pulls back the hood, revealing his identity. Thailog's eyes widen in surprise, his jaw dropping. "You! My....my God!"
<<No.>> the being said, once again letting the hood obscure his face. <<God has nothing to do with this>>
TO BE CONTINUED!!!
***END RP SPOILERS****

Bad news for some: Mystery Science Theater 3000 has just gotten the axe. Personally, while the show is near and dear to my heart...I think this is a mercy kill. I caught an episode a couple of weeks ago on the Sci-Fi channel....Horrible. Not funny. In my opinion, the show was best with Joel. Mike is okay, but when the other regulars went--namely Dr. Forrester (who also did Crow's voice) and Frank, the show went downhill. Why doesn't Comedy Central stop showing "Three Amigos" for the 100th time and show the old eps?
Farewell, MST3K. Farewell, old friend, we'll miss you.

Harlan Ellison: Did I hear the name of one of my favorite authors of ALL time? This guy is an unbelievable writer. He's amazing. I can't recall any other author who's work has moved me the way his has. You can't read stuff like "On the Slab" or "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" or "Knox" or "Mefisto in Onyx" or "The Man Who Rowed Columbus Ashore" and not be moved, amazed, thrilled, horrified, or entertained. But Harlan as Pope? Whoo, that's a stretch!
Most people either hate Harlan or love him. I'm a huge fan, but even I get irritated sometimes with his opinions. But Harlan as Pope? Well one thing's for sure, he wouldn't take any crap from anybody!
(BTW, to all you Tolkien fans, Harlan absolutely LOATHES The Lord of the Rings. On more than one occasion he's called Hobbits, "Those furry-footed MotherF***ers." Ah Harlan, how I love your wit! ;] )

Mary: Overprotective father, huh? Nothing compared to my dad. Real or RP, they're BOTH crazy.
So....you're something of a model, huh? Of course you could be lying, and really be a 40yr. old man......;) Kidding!

Robby's Evil Twin: Hey Lonny, have you my evil twin, Mr. Bigglesworth? Something tells me you two would have fun together.

Lawnmower Man 2: Decent flick. Could have soooo much more with the cyberspace thing, though. Matt Frewer is always fun as a villain! :)

Contacts: I know this Horror makeup supply online site that sells the Hollywood FX contacts. You know, like the vampire eyes used for shows like Buffy, Forever Knight.....Tons of cool, gruesome contacts (I like the "Reptile" version myself). If only I had 400 bucks to spend....

Deuce: Whoa, calm down my young friend! Fourteen years old and thinking of Kerri Russell nude? Shame on you! Good Lord, the power of adolescent hormones!

Romeo & Juliet: Is that the one with Alan Rickman as Tybalt? I think I saw that one! Halfway through I jumped up and screamed, "Hey, it's the guy from Die Hard!"

Crusades: Well, I don't know what you're thinking, but I kinda liked the Crusades. True, we did kill quite a bit of people....but it was kinda fun. Get bored back at the castle, go start a crusade or something....you know, search for Jesus's pocketwatch or something....

****MINI-RANT***
I don't know if any of this is on the national news, but here in D.C., there's this shock-jock called "the Greaseman". Never listened to him, but this guy made the most racist comment I've EVER heard. The guy was playing some of Lauren Hill's music, and afterwards, said, and I quote: "No wonder they drag them behind trucks." I WANT TO KILL THIS MAN. He got fired, but he should DIE. What happened in Texas is undoubtedly the sickest thing I've ever heard of done to another living soul, and it should be done to this stupid piece of S*** for saying that. Thank God the good people of Texas have decided to kill the first of those murderers. I say DEATH to the Greaseman. I'm sorry, I just had to let this out. Do you how horrible this is? Jesus, I hope that those guys in Texas, those f--ing ......I can't say what I feel about this whole matter. We're in a PG room. I wish DEATH on them, and this disc jockey. Painful, horrible DEATH.
***END MINI-RANT***


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 08:30:04 PM
IP: 207-172-45-57.s57.tnt5.brd.erols.com

Fleur> Ack, just caught a typo!! In the sentence about my relatives saying certain things, "couldn't" should be "could." As in them saying things in front of me they wouldn't say if they knew I COULD understand. *slaps herself* Sorry! Bad phrasing, I should've worded that dratted sentence differently.
Blue Caeru
Thursday, February 25, 1999 08:12:50 PM
IP: ppp-60-ts52.nerdc.ufl.edu

Okay I finished Sun and Serpent part 4
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 08:05:46 PM
IP: dt043n61.san.rr.com

The walking dead woman returns! Yes, I have hit the stage of recouperation knowns as *stir-craziness*. I'm too sick to get out of bed for more than ten minutes at a time, but I'm just well enough to be going *insane*.

Silver Arrow: 21 and female.

OK, now for the *real* reason I'm back. SHAMELESS PLUG!!! Yes, folks, I just posted the fourth part of Apokalypsis. I actually finished it last Sunday, but thanks to the flu couldn't be upright for long enough tp put it into HTML and finish up last minute revisions. I just did it now, and now will be in bed for the next two hours cursing myself out for being a stupidhead. ANyway, "And I'll Never Need a Lie" is up and ready for anyone who wishes to read. Feedback is appreciated... =)


jewel - [jfaulkne@brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:59:56 PM
IP: pemw-83.brynmawr.edu

Got a biology exam tomorrow, so I'm afraid I won't be able to cover all the stuff I wanted to in this post...

Mary Flanders> Gee, um... interesting outburst... well, you want to talk about attractive men, here's a very brief list: David Duchovny, Ralph Fiennes, David James Elliot, and a couple others I can't recall at the moment (tall, dark, and weird - that's my "type" :-) ). I don't watch "Felicity," but that guy you mentioned is cute; I think there is a sort of innocence about him. *shrugs* And at the risk of sounding totally cliched: Looks aren't everything, although it can often seem that way.

Fleur> Gibberish? Hey, I know that too! *grin* Well, only understanding Chinese is funny because my relatives keep forgetting that just because I can't speak it doesn't mean I can't understand it. They say all kinds of things they wouldn't say in front of me if they knew I couldn't understand... Example: My aunts talking to my mother while I'm in the room, supposedly oblivious. They look at me. My aunts: "She's too tall! It'll be hard for her to find a husband!" I roll my eyes, trying not to smirk too obviously. (I'm only 5'7 or 8 at most.)
BTW, I'll read your fanfic soon, I promise!And answer email.

Doug> I'll read your fanfic too!

Kaioto> Just letting you know I agree with you about the Papacy.

Lexy> Yeah, there are lots of Gargoyles songs now. *g*

TimeDancer: Uh-oh, I have yet to read this series...

I tried to download ICQ 99, and was unsuccessful after nearly one and a half hours... I'm going to _get_ Mr. Dis Connect...

******* ME TERRORIZING MR. DIS CONNECT *******

Blue storms into the building, in search of the one responsible for her foul mood. She is carrying a violin case. Mr. DC emerges from the restroom down the hall with a newspaper tucked under his arm, and whistling. He looks up, and seeing that Blue is P.O.ed, drops his newspaper and looks around for a place to hide. Blue raises her eyebrows at him.
"You..." she says flatly as she quickly advances toward him.
Mr. DC tries to talk his way out of his situation, knowing that Blue is usually a nice person and a good listener.
"Whatever happened, it wasn't me this time! I've been busy recovering from my injuries..." He looks as pitiful as possible.
Blue reaches him and grabs his tie, yanking him so she can talk to him face-to-face.
"Don't give me that crap. You're immortal." She walks outside, dragging Mr. DC with her. "So, what do you think is in my violin case?" Blue grins wickedly. Mr. DC swallows and glances at it. Blue "accidentally" swings it into his side and he coughs.
Once they are outside, Blue makes Mr. DC stand in front of a wall.
"Don't worry, it's almost over," she says cheerfully. "Okay, when I count to three, I'm going to take my, er, apparatus out and use it, all right?" Blue unlatches the case.
Mr. DC nods miserably. Blue _almost_ feels sorry for him.
"One... two..."
Mr. DC looks very pale.
"Three!" Blue throws the case open as Mr. DC flattens himself against the wall. She pulls out her old violin, marches up to him, and breaks it over his head. Mr. DC faints. Blue stands over him. "Next time I'm bringing my piano!" She tucks her hands into the pockets of her trench coat and walks away, humming "The Imperial March" from Star Wars.

******* END TERRORIZING MR. DIS CONNECT *******
Blue Caeru
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:53:03 PM
IP: ppp-60-ts52.nerdc.ufl.edu

**Kyryn comes in holding her head**

'lo all. I've just got a minor headache today.

Jewel> I thoroughly sympathize with you. I've got a massive sinus infection and the nasal spray the doctor gave to me yesterday took the already bad headache that comes with it and sent it to migraine levels. I spent about 15 hours sleeping and got rid of 90 percent of it. (Note: one of the side-effects listed for the spray was- headache). I'll take the decongestant and antibiotic pills, but no way am I going to take the spray again. Migraines are NOT fun. Fortunately I only get them once or twice a year.

Character names> I usually pull mine out of the air, but I've also been known to look around a room and pull names from whatever's handy. Kyryn is an alternate phonetic spelling for ki-rin from the japanese creature similiar to a unicorn.

Silver Arrow> I'm female and 30- going on infinity.

Green Baron> Contacts? I wear contacts. Naah. They're not painful, but I do get occasional jokes from friends about 'poking my eyes out'. I understand though. Some people just can't deal with stuff that near to the eyes. *shrug* it's a personal choice. Glad to hear that you don't need them though. A monocle? That would look cool! Personally I like certain old-fashioned things. Okami looks very cool in his old west type gambler's outfit.

DumlaoX> Good luck dealing with stuff RL. I'm looking forward to the new pic choices when you eventually get them up.

Fire Storm, Lady Mystic, et al> My condolences.

Deuce> Potassium Permanganate? I sympathize. I got doused with a bunch of it on one arm in high school. One of my idiot lab partners tripped while carrying a beaker full of the stuff. I was wearing short sleeves and got nailed really good. I had people asking about my 'burn' or 'did I have cancer' for the next week. Nasty stuff. Try using lava soap to clean it, or some of the heavy duty mechanic's handcleaning stuff.

Argent> My sympathies about the teeth. I had to wear braces for seven years and have a total of fifteen teeth pulled- twelve baby teeth, two adult teeth (a set of premolars), and one wisdom tooth (luckily the only one I had). Hopefully your solution will be fairly easily.

Fleur> Ooh! A new fic. I'll have to go read it in some not-so-spare time.

I'm sure that I'm missing some things but the head is starting to hurt again.

Later all!

**Kyryn looks at a nearby hammer and then says, "Naah! That would only be a temporary solution. Might as well go take the pills." She walks gingerly out the door**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:49:13 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

**Green Baron makes another appearance after his abscence**

Hello everyone.

Mary Flanders> Contacts? So far, my eyes are in good condition so I don't need anything yet. I doubt I woudl ever wear contacts. They sound painful and they are much more expensive. Personally, I'd fancy a monocle, but I'm eccentric :)

Kaioto> Actually, it was the Sadducees who followed Religious law so strictly. I was told the Pharisee accounts in the New Testament were propaganda by early Christians because they had a lot of clashes with Pharisees.

As for your wishes for the papacy, it is not an easy job. i am very supportive of Pope John Paul II and i think he is one of our greatest popes (much more so than John XXIII though John was a great man). He may not have stood up to secular leaders, but he has very little powere in regard to positive law and if he spit on Clinton's face (I don't object to it. I'd love to sit on his head and fart, myself) or disrupt a UN meeting, he may not have the respect and influence he has now. The Pope is the succesor to Jesus and Jesus was not a kick-ass man. He was kind, gentle, and persuasive. In direct action, he hasn't done a lot, but he has done much in the field of running the Church. The Pope has added diversity to the saints and blessed he has canonized. Nigeria and Papua New Guinea have their own saints thanks to this Pope. He has done more traveling than any other Pope and he has done a great job with touching the hearts of young Catholics to get them more active. He is not afraid to speak out against unjust policies, but he is still willing to show love to those who are unjust. His presence in Cuba gave legalized Christmas there, and I am no friend of Castro (I also have a strong hatred for Communism and Socialism). I don't agree with some of the Pope's views, though these are not law so I don't need to :) I do wonder who our next Pope will be, but I will be sad to see John Paul II leave our earth and enter his new home with God and Mary (who is one of the inspirations for teh Pope and myself).

I'd also like to see the Kennedys excommunicated, but I think that would be better done by Cardinal Law than the Pope and I think the Kennedys have defact excommunicated themselves as it is. I'd also love to see the Pope deck Ted Turner for his recent bigoted statements, but that isn't his way.

Taleweaver> Harlan Ellison?

My own catholic school rant> My old Principal Bro. Jeffrey was the opposite extreme. He wasn't a bad individual but he had soem wierd beliefs. For one, he belongs to an Order but he dosen't wear the proper robes. I have the same problem with most Jesuits at Loyola. Bro. Jeff also believs that competition is soem evil and he tried to get rid of competition at Pep rallies and such, which made them awful. I think he needed to be notified that Marxism failed and Christian Socilaism is a crock of sh*t . He also had soem othe rdisturbing views, like he believed the Tridentine Mass should be outlawed along with cassocks. Oddly enough, he will be in Rome at the end of teh school year. Maybe Cardinal Ratzinger will straighten him out :)

Silver Arrow> I'm 21 and male.

Firestorm> That is truly unfortunate what happened. I hope your "father-in-law" is handling it okay.

Doug> I am a charcter in your fanifc. I'm touched :)

**Green Baron leaves**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:23:17 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Ugh!. Got problems at home again. Severe, but nothing I want to unload on all of you right now. In any case, life must go on...

THEME SONGS-- Found my old site. Hit my name to get to the theme song list. Now that I don't have enough time to update this as frequently as I want, I invite anyone willing enough to place this on their site and do the updating for me. Thanx much in advance.

AGE-- 20 years young (what, I'm not old yet).

CR UPDATE-- Sent the word to Gorebash. Hopefully sometime soon this room shall recieve an update in terms of what pics can be chosen for posting. If things go right, this update brings a grand total of 102 selectable images to the room. Hopefully either I or Gorebash will notify everyone when the update is complete.

SITE UPDATES-- Coming, coming. Just allow me time, tis all :)

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:14:50 PM
IP: 164.67.59.242

Hey, all. Long time, no communicate. I've been horrendously sick this last week, so sick I haven't gone to any classes all week. Next week's going to be fun... I managed to catch the flu. I've never had the flu before, so I had no idea what was wrong. Arrgh. And the people at the Health Center are *oh* so compassionate. Every other sentance out of the doctor's mouth contained the sentance "highly contageous" and she jumeped back away from me when I coughed, and was washing her hands before I had even gotten off the examination cot to leave. Oh, such wonderous bedside manner! (<g> Side note: I've spent so much time in the Health Center and have had so many bad experiences that I've become a catalouger of many of the 'bad Health Center' stories. heh heh. They once told a friend of mine she had clamydia when she had a sinus infection.) Oh, well. At least I'm off crutches (I was on crutches last weekend).

Character names: That's the hardest part of creating characters. I usually look over at my bookshelf and the first book I see determines a character's name (hence, Christine--first book I saw was "The Phantom of the Opera.") As for other ways...some friends and I are in the process of writing a Star Trek novel we hope to get published. We named some of the characters after ourselves. <snort> Well, my friends did. I said, "Oh, throw in a random Ensign Faulkner and have the guy die off in a really cool way." This was said as a joke and I certainly didn't intend for my namesake to become an important character. By the end of our brainstorming, Ensign Andri Faulkner (yeah, they even got based her first name on my middle name, and her middle initial is "J") had become the narrator and a big time major character. And I just sat there half the night with my jawe hanging open saying, "Wait..."

Bryn Mawr: <g> Before y'all all start thinking Bryn Mawr is a wild place, just remember: we were ranked 5th for "Stone Cold Sober" campuses...we're also 3rd for workload, only behind Cal Tech and MIT. We have a T-shirt that says, "Sex Kills" on the front. And on the back: "Come to Bryn Mawr and Live Forever."

You know, I *do* go to a weird school.

And now it's bed time again. I've been upright for too long...


jewel - [jfaulkne@brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:03:23 PM
IP: pemw-83.brynmawr.edu

*creeps in*
Duece>I saw that version of Romeo and Juliet in 9th grade but I looked away as soon as I saw Juliet's boobs. But then I heard the guys yelling in disgust when they saw (and what little I saw through my fingers) Romeo's bare ass. I can handle a guy's cute butt naked (Cute Butt Movie: "The Big Hit". Whoo-hoo!) But that Romeo's ass was just nasty! BLECH!

***DARIA SPOILERS***
I liked last night's Daria. Anybody see it? Daria had a issue with wearing contact lenses. I wear glasses and I like them because 1)My frames are very savvy and look good on me. 2)CONTACT LENSES HURT!!!!! I'm not putting my poor eyes through that! Are you kidding me!?! I saw my sister try to wear her contacts in the beginning, and she was bawling like there was no tomorrow. I liked how Daria decided she liked being able to see things with her glasses other people can't see instead of trying to fit in. I'm like that. I WILL NOT CONFORM TO THE MASSES!!! :)
***END OF DARIA SPOILERS***

Question:If you could be a gargoyle, what would you like to look like, for how long, and what would you do during that time? Don't be shy! Tell me!

*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Thursday, February 25, 1999 06:42:05 PM
IP: ramp-1-5.ucdavis.edu

Just a Quick spot I was expecting.

Traveler: I was wondering who would bring up the Crusades. They are a dark spot on our history. They are a shining example of what happens when the secular politics of the day and the commercial interests of the gentry take over a religious post. You'll note that no one Cannonized Pope Innocent III. The Papacy is an office of great power, and it has been abused before. Christians are supposed to be thinkers and healers, following the examples or Christ. They are not supposed to follow mindlessly. That distinguishes the true representative of the religion and ideals from those who are more akin to the Pharisees who persecuted Christ. The Pope is supposed to be a shepherd of God's people. That does not mean God's people need act like sheep. I don't want a Pope who kills or advocates violence, I want a Pope who is above the petty, selfish secular order of things. I want a Pope who is outraged at social evils not persecuting groups or kow-towing to political power. The Crusades are an example of when the Papacy was used and abused for political agendas … there is no such thing as a Holy War.
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 05:20:15 PM
IP: 141.133.134.81

Okay I just finished LETHE and now for the Sun and Serpent part 4 of Timedancer.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 05:18:18 PM
IP: dt043n61.san.rr.com

*** SPOILERS FOR THE SUN AND THE SERPENT: PART IV ***

Loved the story!! Especially the ending. I'm glad Brooklyn finally told Sata about what happened. (Especially since it was an important part of the story, and really wouldn't be worth reading without ;)) I'm also glad it explained how Meryt became trapped as a statue, and other stuff. I couldn't help but smile at the ending. :)

*** END SPOILERS ***

My link is to that pic I drew of Meryt and Brooklyn singing (from The sun and the serpent part II) in case there's people who haven't seen it yet.

Great work on the TD story!!! :)
Malibu Nylkoorb
Thursday, February 25, 1999 05:11:09 PM
IP: ip144.minneapolis6.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

Kiato> So basically, you want Harlan Ellison for Pope? It was an intriguing daydream. I'm sort of surprise Fate hasn't come up with it, it's right up her alley.

While I agree with your position, I must ask the dragon's question. Why don't you do it? One of the things about religion that I think does a disservice to people is make them believe that someone else must act. Instead of acting on your own. I'll admit. If the Pope said he was thirsty, 15 people would jump to to get him something to drink. While if i said I was thirst, I'd get a look and have to go to the drinking fountain myself. And padon the offense, but the last time I remember a Pope with a devil may care attitude and a can of whoopass, the Crusades cames shortly after, that's not exactly a glowing example of Christianity 'love thy neighbor'. Be careful what you wish for. You may commence firing.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 04:21:30 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

D'OH! I forgot:

I got ICQ last weekend; if anyone wants to contact me, the number is 31838138. Thank you.
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 03:33:40 PM
IP: pppa105.connect.ab.ca

Damn, do I have a lot of catching up to do.

Women in demanding jobs> I say treat them like men in every respect: if they pass the physical requirements, let 'em work. If not, they can't.

Catholic school rant> Doug made a good point. My school, "Holy Family", disgusts me. A morning prayer and assemblies at religious holidays does not a religion program make. "Religion" classes teach kids nothing about God; they're more study periods than anything. :-P The principal was a drunk, the teachers were idiots, and discipline alternated between far too soft to MUCH too harsh. I thank God every day that I'm out of that hellhole.

Interestingly enough, my Science 10 teacher is a deacon in the Ukrainian Orthodox church. He's hilarious, but never blasphemous or irreverent. He could make a good living as a comedian.

Keri Russell nude? In a film? Oh, yes! That goes right up there with "Cruel Intentions" as a movie I've gotta see. :-)

DumlaoX> I'm finishing the CR Primer today.

Kaioto> Fascinating rant. I agree with every point you made.

Fire Storm, Lady Mystic> My condolences on your loss. *hugs*

Mary Flanders> Your little outburst about Leonardo DiCappucino and all us hormonal males reminded me of something: the 1960s movie version of Romeo and Juliet. Not only is there brief nudity with Juliet, the audience gets at least 30 seconds of Romeo's... um... posterior. :-P

Also, your comment on women with small attributes: it's not the size, it's the proportions. That's all I'm saying on that topic.

Potassium Permanganate> I accidentally stuck my hand into a half-litre of that stuff, dissolved in water, yesterday. Hurt like a ———, and now my hand is all brown.

SJ's creativity demon> ROTFLMAO.

Garg songs> Anybody heard the Sarah McLachlan song "Black"? It was on the XF movie soundtrack, but it would suit Gargoyles pretty well. "'Cause I can't see no reason/What is blind cannot see/'Cause I want what is pleasin'/All I take should be free/What I rob from the innocent ones/What I'd steal from the womb..." would work pretty good for Thailog.

OK, I'm done. Hey, click my name to see a terrific MiSTing of "Batman and Robin"! (Careful, it's over 225K!)

** leaves **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Thursday, February 25, 1999 03:32:53 PM
IP: pppa105.connect.ab.ca

Nice to hear Fluer, I knew that of course and Doug I thought your post intersting as well. HEY LENON, Robby's evil brother or whatever I am a big Hilander fan so I can tell yes there is a Kenny on that show. A brat kid immortal that is nothing like the South Park one let me tell you. Sheesh what a mean kid Kenny is. And the worse part is he can act nice and sweet until he wants to strike.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:50:46 PM
IP: dt043n61.san.rr.com

***COMMENTS FOR ‘THE SUN AND THE SERPENT PART FOUR’. MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***

Lovely! Packed with suspense, emotions and great revelations… this is everything a concluding part should be and more. The final scenes with Meryt and Sata were particularly touching. This really is just stunningly good. SUPERB job to all those involved.

***SPOILERS (NOT REALLY ANYTHING, THOUGH) END***
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:09:47 PM
IP: 194.168.238.147

I'm doing this at work, so it's going to be short. :)

Silver Arrow> 19, female, overworked college student. Really.

Fleur> Read the first half of "Welcome to the Wastelands" before work. I'll send you comments when my paper's done and sanity's restored.

Doug> <<I also like your last name for Faith. May I use it in the upcoming Buffy crossover (two stories away- Slayer Senshi).>> Go right ahead. All my Buffy-related fics (aside from "Wherever You Are," a really dumb PR/Buffy vignette I wrote in a weird mood) are plodding along very slowly right now, so be my guest. And an early happy birthday!

Crossovers> I have too many @#$*@^ crossover ideas banging around in my head right now to write. An idea I conceived a long time ago but never got around to writing: During the Avalon Tour, Matt's back in New York without his partner and figures without Elisa around that it'll be just another night on the beat. He subsequently runs into characters from Seinfeld, Friends, Spiderman, Forever Knight, Highlander, et al. before finally getting back to the precinct early in the morning. The only thing I've ever been able to concretely hammer out is the end scene:

Morgan glanced up to see a disheveled figure stumbling through the crowds in the police station. "Hey, Matt," he asked as Bluestone made it through the crush, "you all right? You look like death warmed over."

Matt staggered over to the coffee maker, unsteadily picking up a plastic cup. "I'm fine. It's just been one of those nights."

Suddenly, he stumbled, nearly falling forward in a moment of vertigo. The cup slipped from his fingers, and he would probably have crashed into the coffeepot if Morgan hadn't steadied him. "You call that fine?" the older man scolded as Matt shook his head dizzily. "You're dead on your feet!"

Matt looked at him then with unfocused eyes. "No, really, um, I'm okay." But the expression on his face said otherwise to Morgan; it was almost as though the detective didn't recognize him.

"Bluestone!" Chavez called from her office. "Get in here! You'd better explain this report now!"

Matt swallowed as he caught his reflection in a nearby window. "Oh, boy."

If anyone wants to use this idea, go for it. I couldn't write it and cater to all my other fic ideas. :)

Argent> Tooth pulling? Braces? Oh, you poor thing! **sends sympathy vibes** I know what you're going through--my Spring Break will begin with a root canal.

Okay, maybe this wasn't so short. (Yep, still linking Bob Kiwi.) Later, all!
Mandi Ohlin
Thursday, February 25, 1999 01:22:43 PM
IP: 144.175.8.158

****TGS SPOILERS****
The Sun and the Serpent Part 4: An excellent conclusion to the story. The dream sequence with the river was very well done. Finding out that Harthoth and Khensu are the same person was definitly an unexpected plot twist. I am very curious as to how Apep will figure into future TGS episodes, especially the Unseelie war(if he's still around).
****END SPOILERS****

Silver Arrow>18, male, 1st-year university student

I ran memmaker on my 486-66 and my D: drive disappeared!! Anyone know how to get it back?
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, February 25, 1999 11:19:01 AM
IP: a103-16.cariboo.bc.ca

No offense, but I liked the original Brooklyn character better. Now that he's old and family bound, there's no more excitement to his character. I think that Oberon should threaten to punish the Sisters for taking pity on Brooklyn and letting him accumulate years and family. The Phoenix Gate was supposed to be part of a magical circle that eventually brought Brooklyn back (in my mind), as he was when he left. The three sisters, fearing Oberon's wrath go to Brooklyn and his kin and beast and take them away, restore him to the age he was when the Gate took him away, and leave him with only hazy half memories of his travels or his family. This gives him a good empathy potential, plus it restores him to the way he was without him necessarily losing all of the wisdom he gained from his adventure! Please!!!! He's so boring now!
Caer - [cdaly@qdbc.com]
Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:28:23 AM
IP: 209.151.85.73

Todd: Why don't you get one of those web based e-mail addys(you know, Yahoo, Hotmail, Excite, and use it until you get your main mail fixed. Just go to any of the major search engines and click on the Free Email banner or icon. Once you've acheived the address, send it Patrick. Benefit, you can use it from any location that has a web interface, (like the library).

*Teaser Duck and Cover*
Oh the places Brooklyn's been.The things that he's seen. Mwwhahahaha!

kathy - [kpogge@atl.mediaone.net]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 08:33:44 AM
IP: client38034.atl.mediaone.net

(Stomps in, with a storm cloud hovering over head. Sees Mr. DC fiddling with something over in the corner and sneaks up behind him. Mr. DC suddenly finds himself yanked to his feet and whirled around.)
"This is just a warning. I'm NOT exactly in a good mood, and I have a very interesting demise lined up for you should you ignore my warning. Have a nice day."

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I have a baby tooth that I STILL haven't lost yet, and the permanant tooth is growing in on top of it. So I had to go to the orthodontist yesterday to see if I needed it pulled.
I do.
I also have to get the baby tooth on the OTHER side of my mouth pulled, and the permanant teeth on BOTH sides appear to be growing in crooked. That means I may have to have surgery to get them fixed.
Oh, but that's not all.
I also have to get braces for my overbite. (Didn't even know I HAD an overbite.)

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta Jet
(Seven months 'till the new Dark Ages eps.)
Argent
Ohio, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:06:41 AM
IP: dyn025-nas02.marietta.frognet.net

I wish to apologize, once again, to my fellow TGS staffers for being unable to correspond with them. Yet once again, my mail server has gone bad, which means that while I can access the rest of the Internet, I can neither receive nor send e-mail. It's been this way since yesterday evening. I'm hoping that things will be back to normal by this evening, but if they aren't, well, you'll know why I can't say anything to you about the TGS stories that we're working on. My profuse apologies.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, February 25, 1999 07:03:39 AM
IP: pn3-ppp-120.primary.net

*LOL* HEY i actually STARTED something:) *grins* were talking bout songs that remind us of gargs now:) YEA!

DOUG< i made a bunch of recordings..but i didn't catch your Email Addy. Can you send it to me please..then i will send you the songs you wanted.

Carolynn< HEY! that song reminds me of Lex TOO! Everytime i hear it I picture him lip singing to it:P *L*

Well, I have a big list of songs that remind me of Gargs..but heres one for now...it reminds me of Demona. The woman who sings it I think sounds a bit like her as well...if she were to sing:P

Oh the night, is my world
City lights, painted gold
In the day, nothing matters
Its the night, time that matters
In the night, no control
Through the wall, something breaking
Wearing white, as im walking
Down the streets, of my sole
You take my self, you take my self control
You got me living only for the night
Another..?? another stories told
You take myself, you take my self control
I, I live amoung the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tommorrow guess ill just believe
That this night will never go
I said night
Im living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something so i make myself
Belive it that this night will never go.


HEY you have all heard that new song..where the guy goes.."You are the luv of my life..bla bla bla..goes on to say.."My angel in the night"
WEll. i think that song could go for an EARLY Goliath and Demona song:)

Who would i ask if i wanted to make a pic of two for this room??? anyone?? HELP ME!!

gotta glide:)
Lexy - [lex@hnet.net]
west bend, WI, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 03:04:45 AM
IP: d082.hnet.net

**BEGIN RP!**

[Despite the hostile takeover, someone on the Dark Star has managed to direct its defenses at the MG5Ks (and launch the Executor-class Super Star Destroyers Black Coven and Obsidian Gladius to deal with them) instead of Wilek's shuttle, and the shuttle has docked, allowing Wilek's team inside. Wilek: "Alright, first thing we have to do is get to the command center and find out what's going on. After that...well, I'm making this up as I go along, so I'm not sure. Let's move!"]

**PAUSE RP!**

Theresa> Kewl Gargs code site. I'll have to get to work on my code...

Has anyone else here seen The Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace? Intensely kewl movie. I couldn't help thinking of Future Tense all the way through. Especially kewl since Matt Frewer is a recurring Gargs voice actor. Jackal taking over the world in cyberspace. ^_^

Doug> <<Is that crazy guy you mentioned the inspiration for Forfexx?>> :/ He's saner than most of *us*; check my response to JEB. As for Forfexx...he's really the personification of my own inner psychopath, my own dark side. Usually, such an essentially evil nexus within a person would be used to create a villain, but I made a hero out of it. Says something about me, doesn't it. >:) $<<correcting Wilek's continuity mistakes>> Oops...I assumed 'Miriam' had returned from setting bombs; guess I assumed incorrectly. Sorry, and thanks for the impressive recovery (especially since I can in fact be that absentminded). ^_^ <<"Doug," Kenny says, walking up to them. "I need to go back to the CR. You don't need me anymore, and Mr. DC is taking over my function. I need to get my job back.">> <ahem> You and Kitainia have succeeded in developing Kenny to the point that he's too likeable to kill. For me anyhow. Besides, DC is much more satisfying to eliminate since he actually causes us a lot of trouble. <g>$

<<Where do we pull our names from?>> Well...my own name was from a Star Wars novel, and Miriam is...Miriam. As for my other characters...Anoth Mitaxis' last name is from an episode of Are You Being Served of all things. He's related to that guy who almost married Ms. Slocombe. Forfexx's first name is from some poem or other. Jake and Teri Laughton...I just pulled their first names out of the air. Their last name is from a guy in the PC game Sanitarium. (And I couldn't resist naming Jake's dad Ben. <g> Ben will probably never show up in my ficverse; I invented families for my characters just to give them some personal history.)

Carolynn> Wow, I wish I could see a RealVideo of that CGI Bronx. It must have been extremely kewl.

"We all start with one little spark of madness. Once that's gone...we're nothing."
~Robin Williams, paraphrased (I could be remembering it wrong though...)

Traveler> <<very inventive Mr. Disconnect death>> Thanks. The song was mostly from the Q-Continuum Star Trek novel trilogy (Q-Space, Q-Zone, and Q-Strike). I think it can be purchased in one volume now. Any Star Trek fans in here would be well advised to get these books, they're among the best I've ever read. And great card commercial. Just when I start to think they're getting old, *that* one comes around and suddenly they're fun again. ^_^

Kitainia> <<Those books were supposed to go through an alien robot censor who replaced every swear word it found with <bleep>.>> Kewl. I wonder if there's a Web filter like that.

Kaioto> My comments about Traveler's card commercial also apply to yours. :) <<Who does worship and religious service really benefit, God or Man?>> Both. There's little point in ruling a creation that doesn't acknowledge your rule. And the benefits to man...are many and varied. <<you with the tail and horns>> That describes half the ppl here, including myself. :P

Zath> <<If a gargoyle gets turned to stone by a basilisk, would they wake up again at the next sunset?>> Nope. The stone that we gargs turn to at dawn isn't real stone, but a biological substance resembling it. <<Does Kenny have a last name?>> Probably not. <<What would happen if Kenny got together with the other two immortal Kennys?>> I thought there was only one other immortal Kenny, the one on South Park. <<Thailog Horror (bet you thought I forgot about him, didn't you?)>> You know, I was wondering earlier what had happened to him.

That tree is creeping me out...

Songs that remind us of Gargoyles> I just remembered another one: The Silence Of Daylight, the town theme from Castlevania 2. No lyrics, but the title's very gargesque.

Steve> <<Don't get mad. Get covered in blood as you disembowel your enemies with a chainsaw>> LOL! I think that was written expressly for Forfexx and/or Mr. Disconnect.

**NEW TGS EP SPOILERS!**

What a bizarre dream. :/ Kewl Isis pic. Hm...She looks an awful lot like Gabriella from Blood 2. <eek> Harthoth is really Khensu? Or is that the other way around? Now THAT I wasn't expecting. Apep was...destroyed from the inside out? Ouch, that's gotta hurt. <<I had better hear a scream from him. Otherwise, I rip it from you two. ~Isfet>> That absolutely MUST go on Dumlao's illustrated quotes page. Wow, Uraeus' death was one of the more spectacular scenes I've encountered in TGS. And this ep is one of the best yet.

**END SPOILERS AND RESUME KINDA LONG RP!**

[Wilek's team is proceeding down the corridors of the Dark Star...and they encounter Miriam, the fake Miriam, setting up a large bomb-looking device with a radiation symbol on it. 'Miriam' notices the team, and smiles evilly. "Ah...hail, hail, the gang's all here. <evil laugh> Well you won't be for long. These are set to explode just as soon as my team leaves here to join Admiral Nipon's strike against Earth. Needless to say, you'll be here at the time." The real Miriam stalks up to the fake one and draws her lightsaber. "Some things I do not allow. This is an insult that will not be forgiven." The other Miriam laughs again; it's clear 'she's' nothing like the real one. "So it's come to that." The fake pulls 'her' own lightsaber. "En garde, I suppose!" Miriam and the impostor begin their duel. Dark Mage Wilek (the real one) prepares a spell to help out...Miriam: "No! Threatening the station is one thing, but this is *personal*! *I* will resolve it!" Wilek (to the rest of the team): "I'll stay behind to disarm the bomb and help Miriam out anyhow if she needs it; the rest of you get to the bridge and get rid of any of these bombs you find!"

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:57:29 AM
IP: tnt-1-03-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Character Names: Hmm, I'm notorious for wanting to use exotic or strange names in my writing, and in other things (I told my parents if I ever helped to conceive a daughter that I'd want to name her either Amberle or Evadare). For a lot of my writing, I use a variety of sources for names. Example: The DeGuy in my DeGuy Saga came from my watching "Robin Hood-Prince of Theives", from a flip on Sir Guy of Gisborne; the Sheriff's cousin. Roxanna Hershey got her name from a combination of watching the film "Roxanne" (the Steve Martin film), and the half-eaten candy bar that was sitting on my desk. :)

DOUG - RE:Gargs/Tick Crossover - Wow! Now I have two people telling me I am a master/king of Crossover fiction! Me reputation preceeds me.

But, I have to admit, I don't see me doing a Tick crossover. I admit it's an interesting show - great parody of a lot of classic Superheroes - but I just can't get into the show or the characters, thus I'd be breaking one of my cardinal precepts for writing crossover stories: Have a strong liking for the two shows/universes you would be attempting to cross.

Speaking of Crossovers: I've got one cooking now in the back burner: A Gargs/Transformers story (going to have fun getting Optimus Prime vs. Goliath vs. Megatron vs. Starscream... and how I get it done, considering their size differences!). And I recently read a DS9/Aliens crossover that, while I admire the gumption and the execution of the writer's attempt, had some holes in it... so I might be attempting one of those in the future.

Garg-Inspired Songs: Well, I listen to several songs that I think would fit well in a Garg's Soundtrack. Among those:

"Fly" - From Sugar Ray ("All around the world/Statues crumble for me"; sounds like Brooklyn's Timedance, meeting other clans).

"White Lighting" - Def Leppard ("You wanna dance with the devil?/You better play his game") Strains of Xanatos? I think so...

"Let It Loose" - Gloria Estefan (This whole piece is perfect for Owen and Natty Jones from Spike's stories)

"Burning Heart" - Survivor (A perfect battle theme for any fight between Castaway and the Gargs; preferably Goliath)

"One Vision" - The original by Queen (not the edited version in "Iron Eagle"; Another battle theme, but for the Hunter's vs the Clan)

Incidentally, when I write my fan fics I usually listen to "Independance Day" soundtrack, "Bubblegum Crisis Vocal Collection, Vol. 1", "Pure Moods, Vol. 1 and 2", and "Adiemus" their first album (something about their music puts into my mind of a gargoyle in flight).

BONUS: If I could bring a fan-video to the Gathering, I'd make it about Goliath and Demona and them dealing with their relationship and her betrayal. All set to the song "Return of the Mack". :)

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:50:49 AM
IP: m123.ieway.com

Hey all,

Gotta make this post quick, as I've got about a day to write up three papers for writing seminar.

Silver Arrow > 18 and diggin' it.

Coyote > Yeah, it occurs to me that some women might be *better* combat pilots than men (Hold off on the flames, guys) for the reason that their bodies are smaller, so blood wouldn't sink to their feet for as long during high-G maneuvers and it would return to the brain faster. Better circulation and all. The risk of blackout would be reduced if nothing else.

As for your screenplay, bring it on! If it's anything like your garg fics I should love it. I try to be equal opportunity as well in writing, my military stuff has more females per unit than RL. I've got that female SEAL I mentioned, a hydrofoil commander who'll end up skippering a frigate, and a bunch more I'm forgetting.

Kitainia, SJ > Thanks to all that read and commented on my in-progress novelization (which is still linked down below). I really appreciate the feedback.

Kitainia specifically > There are other Rock novelizations out there? I've been looking for years and turned up zilch. Though that might be a good thing, if they're of the same caliber as the Face/Off book I bought (regrettably). So far the best novelization I've read was The Abyss, by Orson Scott Card.

Doug > .72 Caliber SOCOM? GOOD GOD! That's... that's... a Fifty and a half! I mean, the Mk23 frame is only 1.53 inches wide, and the .45 bullet takes up less than a third of that. How many rounds can that sucker hold, like six?

And I must disagree with you on the Best Sniper Rifle award. I'm a huge fan of the Barrett M82 .50 (aka "God's gun" :). C'mon, who can't love a rifle that can take out a man at 1,100 yards or a tank at 500?

BTW, there's a great armaments site at www.remtek.com/arms. Why there's webspace for international arms manufacturers on a computer company's server, I don't know, nor do I expressly care. This site rocks!

Theresa > Thanks for the link to the GargCode site! Hehehe, gonna have some fun with this one... :)

==Don't get mad. Get covered in blood as you disembowel your enemies with a chainsaw.==

'Night all
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:44:49 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

Hmm, the final part of Sun and the Serpent is finally up. That means... I get to put up teasers for next week's episode which I helped on!

In one week...

Her face filled with alarm at his slow response. "Brooklyn-san, are you unharmed? The volcano..."
Robby
Thursday, February 25, 1999 02:14:05 AM
IP: spider-we043.proxy.aol.com

Love. Betrayal. Understanding. Finale.

The Sun And The Serpent part 4

the new TimeDancer episode

idea by Nicodemus and Rahsaan Footman

written by Rahsaan Footman

artwork by Amber

ENJOY!!!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Thursday, February 25, 1999 12:19:27 AM
IP: pool0006-max1.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Fleur: Actually, that's *also* possible. Both of the songs written by Jim Steinman and Andrew Lloyd Webber on this album ("Home By Now/No Matter What" and "A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste") are also on an album of what appears to be a concept musical written by Steinman and Webber called "Whistle in the Wind."

My my, look at the time. It's time for me to lapse into unconsciousness again ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, February 25, 1999 12:14:00 AM
IP: 207.91.254.94

*RP* (note: this takes place between the RP's in Doug's last post.)
Fleur climbs into the Onslaught and sits beside Jaden.
"What else did Traveller say?" she asks him.
"Um, something about wondering if we found what he left in the pool." Fleur frowns, then gets out of the Onslaught and walks back to the Hotel.
"Where are you going?" Stephanie asks.
"Swimming. If I'm not back in ten minutes, do me a favour and blow up the pool."
*END RP*

GUESS WHAT?!?! That's right, I'm still hyper!! And before my absent mind forgets -
*SHAMELESS PLUG*
"Welcome to the Wastelands" is _finally_ up at the GFW archive. Go read it!! :)
*THIS HAS BEEN A SHAMELESS PLUG. WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULAR SHEDUALED POST.*

Zath> Ew, what a rotten day.
> my lab partner spilled potassium permanganate on my hand,< Is that the stuff that turns your skin black? On the last week of school, one of my friends spilt a chemical onto me that did that. Didn't hurt or anything, but my hand looked a bit weird for a couple of days. Fortunately, it rubbed off before the valedictory dinner. (The next day, she bought me a pair of Bananas in Pjamas mittens to 'cover it up when you go out'. And people wonder why we're still such good friends. :))

Fire Storm, Lady Mystic, Puppy Girl, Father, and friends> May Molly Rest in Peace. My condolences to you, her family and her friends.

Good luck Jaden.

Blue> You understand Chinese? I'm impressed. Me, I can only speak English, but some people say I'm fluent in gibberish. :)

Silver Arrow> I'm 19 going on five.

James> *sheepish* I laughed too at your way of dealing with insults. But I promise you, it was at what you said, not you personally, and it's a very good way of fighting back, without fighting back. (Well, you know what I mean.)

Traveler> $You OWN March Inc.?!? Doug and Kitainia aren't the only ones who want to speak to you about that.
Wait a minute. _When_ did you buy all those shares? Before or after we blew up the Austin HQ? Have you been using that Delorian for more than some ancient-temple vandalism, or are you just absent-minded about those 'little' details? (like who actually owns the building you're blowing up.)$
>suddentaly there's a thumping sound in the CR, Traveler turns to look and...* Oh boy, the tree's growing tentacles ... RUN!!!!!!!< *Fleur looks at the tree . It has pulled itself out of its pot and is sliding across the floor to a rapidly-backing-away,but-just-ain't-fast-enough Mr Dis. As it wraps its tentacles around his entire body, gradually tightening them, Fleur smiles* Oh look, it's made a friend. How nice. *There is a muffled scream and the sound of breaking bones.*

Coyote> >For those who don't know, those lines are out of "Home By Now/No Matter What," the first track off of "The Very Best of Meat Loaf."< Meat Loaf?!?! Um, maybe this version was a remake, because it sure wasn't him. Hmm, but I think I'll buy that CD - the version I heard was a bit soppy for my tastes. (as in 'this song will induce vomiting if played too often'.)

SJ> >"Wow, it was 10 minutes to you, but it was 40 pounds and a midlife crises for me!"< LOL!

TTFN!

*RP (again, this is between Doug's RPs)*
The ten minutes are almost up, and Jaden and the Ravens are getting worried, when Fleur walks out of the hotel. She is soaking wet, and cleaning some sort of green slime off her blade.
"Fleur...?" Jaden asks. Fleur smiles at him.
"Found it. Saw it. Kicked its... well, I _think_ that was its butt."
"Anything else we should know about?" Doug asks. Jaden shakes his head.
"Then let's go!" Kitainia shouts. After Lathrop says a quick spell to dry Fleur off, they all get into the Onslaught and head to San Francisco.
*END RP*
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:59:43 PM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

*creeps in*

Doug>I understand where you're coming from. You're older then me and probably more mature then guys my age. You obviously (and anyone else with an ounce of maturity) see the combination of a great personality and good looks as a great turn on. Guys I know only see long legs and big...attachments. And gee, lucky me, instead of having to deal with a horny teenage boy; I attract horny dirty ugly old men. Yuck! No matter how baggy my clothes are, they all give me the "I want to screw her" look. So naturally, I'm not comfortable hearing about a guy talk about a girl's body. Makes me wonder what some guys think of me. But hey, I guess I have to get used to it since I'm growing up.

SJ>naughty boy! *L* You'd have to deal with an over-protective father first! And I should warn you that my father is built like a grizzly bear. And sometimes roars like one. *shakes her head* Oh, well! I have a peculiar family. :) Actually, You should see the modeling pictures taken of me when I was 12. I looked like I was 23. Shocked the living crap out of my grandparents when I showed them. And there are some disadvantages to having "large attachments". Getting them into a sports bra. I know. I've tried!*LOL*

*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:47:48 PM
IP: ramp-1-4.ucdavis.edu

**Robby enters the room, looking... Different. Something about his walk, something about his hair... Perhaps all the black leather. After a moment, it becomes clear, it is not Robby at all, but his evil twin. Which is really kinda odd since Robby himself is a clone of Vinnie. Process the visual as you will.**

Naming characters- Hmm... Usually what Robby does is he uses the first name to come to mind that applies for more than three uses. Which probably explains why the fool has characters named Sidekick and Goodguy... Other times, he takes a name from someone he knows, or plays on the name of a character that is connected to the one in question. Lotsa methods...

Jim Carrey as the Grinch- Ick... They should not be doing a live one, the cartoon is fine as is. But if they have to do it, they should have cast me as the Grinch instead... I love the role. I even know the entire song by heart. "You're a mean one... Mr. Grinch..." Oh, but I can't sing though... Probably best to just get Tony the Tiger to do it again.

Spiderman's new show- Another ick. And I thought the Scarlet Spider had an awful costume.

Ages- Robby has said it before, he's 16. I myself happen to be 17, which is very annoying since everyone assumes I'm the same age as he is, being his evil twin and all. Grr...

Legend of Sleepy Hollow movie- Sounds good to me. Again, a role I should gotten. My own fault for not auditioning I suppose...

Doug- Have a dreadful birthday in a few days.

Mary- Hmm, interesting topic you bring up. Just remember I'm an evil villain, and you can assume my position on the matter. I'm trying to find one of those Bond girls with the really cool names... Robby on the other hand, is just delighted to be with Heather and more or less sends all of his compliments her way. What a bore he is...

Mr. Dis Connect's first name- A close friend of mine, I often employ him to spread evil. But actually, Dis _IS_ his first name, and Connect is his last. People have just found it easier to call him Mr. DC, rather than Dis Connect.

As far as Kenny... I don't know him very well, though I suppose I should... AN imortal is a useful thing to have on your side... But two other immortal Kenny's? I'm aware of the Southpark one, who is the other?

Included on the name is one of my personal favorite songs... I play it when hurting my enemies, of whom I am certain I shall soon make of many of you...

By the by... Any of you fools interested in contacting me, my e-mail is the same as Robby's...
Robby's Evil Twin Lonny - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:43:06 PM
IP: spider-te011.proxy.aol.com

Everyone who thought I was a guy> Don't worry about it. No offense taken. I had been using this netname for a long time before I started posting here, so I'm used to this happening. There have been several people in some chat rooms who simply refused to believe I was telling the truth when I told them I was a girl. It's nice to be somewhere like this CR where gender doesn't matter one way or the other. Why then do I use this name if it always causes misunderstandings? I just like the way it sounds: ).
(cyber-pizza to whoever can guess where "Zath" came from)

Doug> <<the street preachers on UT's West Mall>> Is that the one where you're allowed to appear naked in public, or is that the east one? I know they told us on the tour. <<If the other RPers approve (and Zath doesn't tell us he also turned out to be an okay guy), Dr. 'Weird' Ed Edison will be the name.>> The villain in "Day of the Tentacle" was the Purple Tentacle. He actually managed to enslave all of humanity, and the plot of the game is you have to use Dr. Fred's chronojohn (the time machine made out of the port-o-potty) to change history to keep him from succeeding. Weird Ed just sits around in his room playing with his stamp collection, and I seem to recall that at one point he actually mentions being in therapy for the past several years. (as an interesting side note, if you use the computer in Ed's room, you can play the original Maniac Mansion game.) I wonder if they'll ever make a third game in the series.

Basilisks> If a gargoyle gets turned to stone by a basilisk, would they wake up again at the next sunset?

Blue Caeru > <<sometimes people think I am older>> I'm also 18, but I have the opposite problem. Only about a month ago, I went out to eat with my mom and was asked if I wanted a children's menu : P What's really funny is the fact that I was probably at least a year older than the guy who asked me.

Questions that have been nagging me> Does Mr. Disconnect have a first name? Does Kenny have a last name? What would happen if Kenny got together with the other two immortal Kennys? Would they start dating the Weird Sisters, would they start their own garage band, or would they do something even stranger?

**WARNING, REALLY LONG MR. DISCONNECT DEATH!** (I'm probably going to get yelled at for the length, but I had to do it.) >: D
Zath spots Mr. Disconnect from across the CR and shouts, "C'mere you! I've got a score to settle." Mr. DC shrieks and runs out the other door. Unfortunately for him, the odd space/time anomaly that seems to surround the CR has temporarily replaced the second exit with a broom closet. Mr. DC tries to wedge the door shut with the various cleaning implements in the closet, but the door is soon torn from its hinges, revealing Thailog Horror (bet you thought I forgot about him, didn't you?). The big blond gargoyle clone grabs DC by the neck and drags him back into the main CR.
"What do you think we should do with him?" T Horror asks as Mr. DC begins to turn a shade of blue that would only make a gargoyle look healthy.
"Let's feed him to the carnivorous slugs!" T Horror grins and carries DC over to the pit while Zath pulls the lever to open the trapdoor. TH walks to the edge and prepares to pitch DC in, but he stops in mid throw, causing DC to gurgle as he swings back and forth in the clone's grip. Perplexed, Zath walks over to join them and looks into the pit. All the slugs are dead, and apparently have been that way for quite a while. "It has been a long time since we last fed them wasn't it? Do you think starvation violates the warranty SJ's dad gave me?"
"Probably."
"So what are we going to do with jerko here?"
"You could give him to your cat."
"No, the last time I saw her, she was sneaking into the Monkee-mobile after the party at Jim's house. I hope she doesn't cause *too much* trouble."
"Let's think. There has to be something we can do with this guy." The two friends look around the room, hoping for inspiration. The CR gators, not wanting a repeat of the digestive problems caused by Kenny, the lawyer, close their mouths and sink into the muck in the moat so no one gets the notion of force feeding them. Meanwhile, Mr. DC passes out and continues to turn stranger and stranger colors due to lack of oxygen. This gives Zath an idea. Zath runs into the closet and returns with two cans of paint, a large jar of ants, and a pair of heavy duty leather work gloves. T Horror drops the unconscious Mr. DC and puts on the gloves. Zath opens the jar, which happens to contain genuine Texas fire ants, and pours half of its contents onto DC. T Horror, protected by the gloves, flips Mr. DC onto his other side, and Zath empties out the remaining ants. The thousands of fire ants all bite DC dozens of times, causing him to swell up to an enormous size. Zath and T Horror then paint DC bright green and dark purple. Around this point, Mr. DC begins to wake up. He regains consciousness just in time to be thrown out the window. He plummets towards the ground, bouncing off several balconies and flag poles to make an extremely painful, but nonfatal landing on the sidewalk below. As he tries to get up, he is spotted by a small child, who joyously cries out "Barney!" This attracts the attention of other children, and Mr. Disconnect is soon trampled to death by a giant mob of squealing preschoolers and kindergartners.
**END MR. DISCONNECT DEATH** (I feel cleansed)
Zath
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:36:27 PM
IP: ns13-04.viptx.net

Once again, everyone please go read my latest fanfic, just posted at the GFW archive. This may be the final confrontation between Agony and Seth. Who will live and who will perish? ("Dream of me, brother! Dream of me!!")

**RP BEGINS HERE**

The Onslaught is being loaded by the Ravens, Fleur, and Jaden, all ready to head for San Francisco. "Doug," Kenny says, walking up to them. "I need to go back to the CR. You don't need me anymore, and Mr. DC is taking over my function. I need to get my job back." "Okay, Kenny," Doug says. "We'll miss you. Good bye." Kenny nods and steps through a portal Lathrop opens for him, into the CR. Unfortunately he ends up standing right over the gator moat, you can probably guess what happens next. :) Doug ignores his screams and turns to Gubio. "So, this virus you sent Marsh," he says. "You sure it will work?" "Yeah," the hacker says. "It's the best. Mist and I designed it, Erin added a few improvements on our foundation. Our baby's got plenty of anti-countermeasure features, it cannot fail." "Your baby?" Doug asks. "Yeah," Gubio grins. "That's what Erin (his Turkish net-girlfriend who lives in Jordan, Erin Bey) and I call it. We did build it together, after all." "Gubio, are you and this girl..." "Maybe, I don't know. I do like her, though, and vice versa. She is the best hacker, Doug, as good as I am with computers. And she's so understanding, so interesting, so nice. A guy could fall in love." Doug nods. "I see. How much have you told her about us?" "Everything," replies Gubio. "She wants to help. Too bad Erin's thousands of miles away, or she could provide more of it. You think we can trust her?" Doug shrugs. "You trust her, obviously. That's good enough for me." Ignoring Gubio's smile, Doug then turns to face the CR.

**PAUSE RP**

Jaden: Welcome back to the CR. You're welcome about us using your RP character. Good luck on the big test.

Thanks to all who have told me where they got the names for their fic characters. Very interesting how we all seem to get it from similar sources. <grin>

Steve: Looking forward to seeing more of the novel, thanks again for posting it. And I agree with you about The Rock. I also like calm, collected, and hilariously evil villains. That definitely includes Sunnydale's Mayor.

Traveler: Thanks for posting, and explaining why you took so long in doing it. I now understand, and once again apologize for my impatience. Thanks for the merc poem. I may use it in my fic cycle. I may not. Now, about your other topics:

Flashbacks: Yep, they work for me, too. The next time we see Seth, he'll have gone through a lot of them. And hopefully have calmed down. (To see what I'm talking about, read my latest fanfic- "End to the Rage" now at GFW.)

Weapons in my Fanfic: I don't think Laura's hand-cannon exists IRL. I made it up for my fanfic saga, based on guns that do exist. The Special Ops Command Pistol, aka the SOCOM, is the handgun favored by most of the world's best commando soldiers. Laura is definitely one of those. Since she's Illuminati and they of course have better technology than the rest of the world (they always have, they release it to us when they think we know how to use it), I made her handgun twice as powerful as the average SOCOM. The average is .48 caliber, hers is .72. I've given many of the Commandos similar upgraded weapons. The Thompson snipers use PSG-3 rifles (PSG-1 being the best sniper rifle in the world, these are of course better), Weston has a Desert Eagle 2 pistol, etc. For more examples, check the latest fic. As to whether these weapons exist IRL, I have no idea. And if they did, part of me would be very worried.

Mandi: Dave's only one movie I've incorporated. I've already featured characters from Pretty Woman (one of THE BEST romance movies) in there, and I think I've also mentioned events and characters from the Die Hard Trilogy, Memoirs of an Invisble Man (yes, Agony's stockbroker is THAT Nick Holloway), The Rock, Scent of a Woman, and a few others. Dave should be incorporated soon, I hope you like what I do with Nance (he'll be the main character from the film featured in my stories). I agree with you completely about Dave being one excellent movie.

I also like your last name for Faith. May I use it in the upcoming Buffy crossover (two stories away- Slayer Senshi).

Kaioto: I agree with you about the kind of Pope we need, and the kind of leaders. In my fanfic, Nance will of course be one of those. So will Duval, when he gets in charge of the Illuminati. And of course so will Titania, the next ruler of the Seelie. :)

Silver Arrow: Kitainia and I are 19, this coming Monday I'll be 20.

On the Waterfront: That was one of the movies Mr. Conway had us watch in film history class. Very good film. The best ones we watched were King Kong, Star Wars, and the Terminator films, but On the Waterfront was also excellent. So was Marlon Brando's character in the film.

James Birdsong: Jammer's not a slang term. It's the nickname for a friend of Kitainia's and mine who is a chronic comedian. Think Xander, Brooklyn, Traveler, Kramer, Richard Fish, and Jerry Seinfeld all rolled into one, that's what he's like. He also of course has your sense of humor. And good luck in getting that job as a comedian.

Gargs/Tick Crossover: This could be cool to see, but of course I don't think I can work it into my saga. I wonder who the villain would be in it. Chairface Chippendale (who Nudnik would have to chew on)? The Terror's gang (I can just see Goliath and the clan fighting them)? The Human Bullet (who would of course have to accidentally knock Goliath out of the sky and get him really angry)? Or would it be Demona (it would be great seeing the Tick regaling her with witty comments)? So many possibilities if one crossed over these two great shows. Maybe I'll have to try it as a stand-alone fic. Or maybe the other master of crossovers (Stephen R. Sobotka) can do it. Either way, it would be a very neat tale.

Blue: Good. Hope you enjoy the fic when you do read it. And of course, that you remember to send me feedback. Thanks for what you've already said. :)

JEB: Yeah, it is, isn't it? Oh well, at least I got out before the really bad stuff started happening. And in the RP, I shall have my revenge. Thanks for your sympathy, and I look forward to seeing your website's update.

Theresa: Thanks for posting that link. I shall check it out as soon as I'm done talking.

Mary: Really? Oh come on, I'm just acknowledging that beautiful women exist. I mean it as compliments to them, not insults! (Hope the comments I made about Gwyneth and Keri aren't being taken that way. If they are, tell me and I'll stop.) As for Gwyneth's breasts, I didn't really care what size they were myself. Big ones turn me off anyway, especially if they're made of silicone. It was more the character's personality, and the heat of the moment where we saw her nude. That, and she was beautiful. Beauty must be appreciated. <looks at Kitainia> Now this woman here, she's more beautiful than Gwyneth, definitely. And Keri, and Willow, and any other girl we crazy young men may compliment in here. In my opinion, at least. And I'm sure you are also a beautiful person. Your personality definitely speaks volumes for it, if you ask me. As for girls discussing cute guys in here, I wouldn't mind it. And I'm sure Kitainia has quite a few things to say on the subject. I just wonder if it's appropriate, given the room's rules. Maybe, maybe not. Better ask Dumlao.

Carrie 2: I've heard of it. Maybe I should check it out. Get some ideas for Rachel's prom night. (A fanfic far in the future, that shall be trashed by evil fay. She and her date, and the clan of course, will have to KATN.)

Jim Carrey in a live-action Grinch movie? Come on, they did it perfectly animated, why do they need a remake? Oh well, at least they picked someone I can easily see doing the role. BTW, speaking of Jim Carrey, he's also the ideal voice of reporter Gary Parker in my fanfic.

Christopher Walken: So he'll be the Headless Horseman, eh? Alright, checking it out. Walken is one of my favorite actors. And yes, he is also doing a role in my fanfic (Ares O'Neil).

Okay, that's all for tonight. I need my sleep now, having just finished and posted a really emotional and important-to-my-saga fanfic. Hope all who read it enjoy. Good night.

**RP AGAIN, KINDA LONG**

The Ravens finish loading and begin their journey. Meanwhile, at Marsh Headquarters, Marsh is watching as Tyl and Micheal Meade (the world's best computer virus killer) try to undo the damage to his systems. "I have to ask you," Meade says. "Why does this guy wear a ski mask all the time?" "It conceals my identity," Tyl says. "I am the world's best hacker-for-hire, I can't have people knowing who I really am." "Oh," Meade nods, understanding. VP Kilmer comes in and takes Marsh aside. "We have a problem," he tells the evil businessman. "David Xanatos just called. He's threatening a hostile takeover of the company." "He can't do that," Marsh says. "No way he has enough stock." "He claims to have over 60% of our stock at his fingertips," Kilmer replies. Marsh gets a shocked look on his face. "He couldn't have that much. Not unless..." Suddenly the computer begins beeping. "New virus coming in!" Tyl shouts. "Looks like a big one!" The system locks down, the screen image being replaced by a flashing animation moving too fast to make out what's happening in it. "Another one of these viruses?" Meade asks. "Give me a break!" He begins tapping in key combinations, but the image only speeds up or slows down its movement, not fading away. Eventually, as Meade enters commands, it slows down enough to reveal itself. It is a series of images, one of Goliath breaking out of stone sleep, one of a building exploding after being hit by a nuclear weapon, one of Bob Dole laughing maniacally, and one of bad guys being blown away by a gun-wielding madman who kinda looks like Sylvester Stallone. Then there's an image that makes Tyl gasp, his eyes flaring in rage. He points to the screen, at the picture of Bart Simpson blowing a raspberry at whoever's looking at him. "The raspberry!" he shouts. "There's only one hacker who could have built this virus, and would dare to give me the raspberry. Sultana Zoltana!" "Who?" Marsh asks. "A girl in Jordan," Tyl growls. "Real name Erin Bey. Three years ago, I was hired by some radical Isreali terrorists to destroy the Jordan government's computer system. She stopped my virus, sending me a raspberry program like this one, and now she's once again ruining my employers' plans." "Okay," Kilmer says. "So you have a history with her. But what would she have against Marsh, Inc.?" "I've been keeping tabs on ZS the past three years," Tyl says. "I think I know. In the past few months, she's had over a hundred hours-long chat sessions with an old friend of ours. The Ravens' hacker. Gubio." "The Ravens are doing this?" Marsh asks. "Damn them! Damn them to hell!" The screen fades out as he, Tyl, and Kilmer get a very angry look on their faces (for Tyl, it's in his eyes).

**END RP**
Doug (the real post) - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:04:32 PM
IP: hil-c45-054-vty206.as.wcom.net

No thanks JEB. I'm a loner IRL anyhow.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:03:33 PM
IP: dt043ne2.san.rr.com

SJ: Yep, exactly. She's naming her kid after Hunter Hearst Helmsley if it's a boy ... of course, this makes me resist mightily suggesting the name Chynna if it's a girl. :)
(You consider, though, that this woman is *so* much into the WWF that she managed to talk her mother into putting an "Austin 3:16" license plate on the front bumper of her car ... an early-'90s Cadillac.)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 10:50:37 PM
IP: 207.91.254.57

***NO RP TONIGHT. Just to dern tired.

More Movie News: Jim Carrey has just signed for the lead role in the live action "How the Grinch Stole Christmas". Yes, for your information, that IS the 7th sign of the Apocalypse!

Spiderman: Hey, remember how I mentioned way-back-when that there may be a new Spider-man show? Done. Already greenlighted for next season. Click on my name to check out a couple of pics from the show.
I got a problem with it though. It's set in an "Alternate reality". Meaning pretty much everthing you know and love about Spidey is shot all to Hades and back. Could be somewhat interesting....new takes on Marvel characters, maybe some new characters too....the on the downside, they could totally screw up the character. Perhaps they wanted a "Batman Beyond"ish type of new program with a familiar character.

Maniac Manson: Boy, this is going retro! I LOVED that game! One of the best reasons to own a Nintendo way back then. An excellent predecessor to some of today's modern RP /strategy games. (BTW, which tentacle wanted the recording contract? The green one or the purple one? I always forget...)
I vaguely remember that they made a TV show based on this game. Ran on the Family channel I believe, but it wasn't that great...

Coyote: Hunter stands for HUNTER HEARST HELMSLEY!!! Leader of DX, aka DeGeneration X (which is really what our generation should call ourselves, the name fits). I got two words for you.....you know the rest ;)

Tick: SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!! I loved that show (and the comic)! Great parody of the superhero genre. My favorite episode was the one where Tick and his gang (Arthur, Die Flaedermaus, American Maide, that Sea Urchin guy...) took on the Terror and his gang (The Ton and Handy, The Man-Eating cow, that Stalin guy....).
Handy: "Gee, what an Oedipean situation!"
*Everyone looks at Handy in confusion*
Handy: "Oedipean? As in Oedipus Rex? He poked his own eyes out! READ A BOOK!!!!"

Gooch: GREAT novelization. Ya got talent, kid! :)

Zath: Hey, that's okay. I like girls instead of boys, for obvious reasons ;)

Pope John Paul I: If I remember my Gemstone Files correctly (the MOTHER of all conspiracy theories), wasn't he the one who got sodium morphated? Don't know, been a while since I read that thing...
BTW, that thing makes the Illuminati look believable...

Mary: Well, not ALL women can have large.....attachments. Gwyneth is perfect just the way she is! :-p
BTW.....What's your phone number? *Kidding! It was a joke!*
Yeah, heard of Carrie 2. Not that interested. If you want a REAL horror flick, wait till this summer for "SLEEPY HOLLOW". Yes, based on that story, only with Johnny Depp as Ichabod, Christina Ricci as...whatever the female lead's name is, Caspar Van Dien as Brom Bones, and....this is great!....CHRISTOPHER WALKEN as the Headless Horseman. Directed by Tim Burton. I'm there!

Basilisks: If I remember some of my mythology correctly, sometimes they were referred to as little fellars, and sometimes they were the badasses of the dragon community. I have this really horrifying concept for a basilisk that I'd love to paint....if I had any talent that is.

CREATIVITY DEMON (spawned by all this time portal stuff)
Brooklyn was supposed to be the TimeDancer.....
But what if another took his place accidentally?.....

Brooklyn edges toward the Phoenix Gate, which had appeared out of nowhere....
Only for it to be suddenly snatched up by SEVARIUS JR.! "Hey, what's this thing do?"
"No, don't!"
*There is a flash of light, and SJ is gone.......*
*Only to appear ten minutes later....*
"Wow, it was 10 minutes to you, but it was 40 pounds and a midlife crises for me!"
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 10:39:27 PM
IP: 207-172-41-67.s67.tnt10.brd.erols.com

BTW, has anyone heard of the sequel to "Carrie", "The Rage: Carrie 2"?
Mary Flanders
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 10:19:31 PM
IP: ramp-1-4.ucdavis.edu

Real post in a minute. First I must plug.

"End to the Rage" is now up at GFW. I finished it tonight. Why so fast? The creativity demons made me do it, that's why! I had to get it out! I'll be taking a break after this one, it has some truly universe-shattering developments. So go read it, hopefully enjoy, and please please PLEASE send me feedback. Thanks in advance to all who do.

**plug over, real post coming up**
Doug Elder - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 09:58:07 PM
IP: hil-c45-054-vty206.as.wcom.net

*creeps in*

Hey all! I know I've been gone a while. I've been busy.

****SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE SPOILERS****
It was the best movie I've seen this year. All the characters were really well played and I really liked how in the end Queen Elizabeth decided not to wait for some guy to help her get over the mud and just mumbled, "Too late, too late!" and walked right through it. Of course, I had problems dealing with seeing the whore working on her customer and see Gwenyth Paltrow's breasts. How can you guys go for those!?! they're so small! *shakes her head* I'm never going to understand guys. My chest is twice that big, I've got the good looks that run in my father's family (two of my cousins were models in L.A.), and I still don't get and guy my age's attention!!! Hmmm...maybe their just intimidated because I look like I'm 25. And this is no lie. And I know I sound like I'm bragging, or exaggerating, but I swear I'm not.

Anyway, back to the movie. But Paltrow is very pretty and talented and I hope she gets an award for Best Actress.
****END OF SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE SPOILERS****

*Reads down the messege board* Oh, dear. We have a lot of horny boys and men in here (and I use those terms loosely ;P) I personally think someone needs to even this out and add some girls talking about David Bornez wearing a wet T-shirt! ;P Or Noel from "Felicity" and his cute face and sweet boy-next-door personality. Or talking about cute guys' butts! *drool, drool, drool!* Of course, I could always do this myself! ;) But if any girl talks all swoony about Leonardo DiCRAPrio, I swear I'm going to puke.

Ahhh...the joys of being a 16 year old girl and full of raging horomones! ;) Bis dann alle! (Until later all!)

*creeps out*
Mary Flanders
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 09:34:20 PM
IP: ramp-1-4.ucdavis.edu

**RP!!**

**The screen lights up to reveal ... Coyote, Ravyn and Jimmie, still zipping along the fireeway, exactly where it left off the last time.**

Well, Rav, just so happens that I managed to come across a website for missing/abducted children. Arizona's department of justice runs it.

<"Really?">

Yeah, found it a couple of years ago when I was doing research for an ish of my cybercomic ... let's see here ...

**Coyote pulls out a laptop from his extrenely deep pockets, opening it up and accessing the website.**

**PAUSE RP!!**

Carolynn: TOO SWEET!!

**composes self**

Sorry ... but yeah, that sounds like it was GREAT! Any way other folks can get their mitts on that promotional vid? :)

Fleur: OH my God, thank you for proving my theory that Meat Loaf is a Gargs insider. (For those who don't know, those lines are out of "Home By Now/No Matter What," the first track off of "The Very Best of Meat Loaf." It was written by Jim Steinman and Andrew Lloyd Webber.)
Incidentally, Disc 2 of that album has another one that would relate nicely to Gargs, especially where it concerns Goliath and Elisa after "Hunter's Moon." (The song is "A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste.")

Wilek: Okay ... but my offer still stands. :)

FS, LM, et al: **bows head** My condolences on your loss.

Robby: **grins, glances at Ravyn** Gee, thanks. :)

Doug: You're welcome.

Steve Gooch: Glad you have that opinion of women flying in combat ... maybe it'll be safe to show you a copy of my screenplay (the squadron at the center of it is 50 percent female, including the squadron commander. And it's a Naval squadron.).

Women in Selective Service: I've been intentionally avoiding this topic, BTW. I really can't have an opinion one way or the other ... both of my parents were 20-year Navy.

Traveller: Boy, you must really not like your family. :)

Naming characters: An interesting topic for me, especially since one of my co-workers is expecting and is having trouble picking out a girl's name (already has a name picked for a boy: Hunter ... BTW, she's a WWF fan, guess where she got the name from ...). I tend to conjure names from the ether, unless there's a lot of symbolism involved with the name ... for example, Thorn (the evil side of the Rose); Lili (her name is short for Lili'uokolani, which was also the name of the last monarch of Hawaii).

Kitainia: Thank you, as well.

Kaioto: "On the Waterfront," IIRC, is the movie which had Marlon Brando declaring "I coulda been a contender!"
Aw, dang, Trent beat me to it!! ARG! To think I took that movie course in college and all I can remember is that and this really weird Cuban movie called "Strawberry and Chocolate."

Silver Arrow: Yep, I'm over 18. They say you're only as old as you feel ... if I were *truly* as old as I feel, I would've been alive during the Ice Age. :)

**RESUME RP!!**

Here it is. I'm now accessing recorded abductions within the last six or so years ... hmm, strange.

<"What is it?"> **Ravyn leans over, looking at the screen.**

Well ... there's no records of an abduction of anyone with the ... well ... unique physical traits of Jimmie. It's too hinkie.

<"You don't suppose ...">

What? **Coyote's face drops** Oh no ...

<"Exactly. What if Jimmie's parents sold him to that circus?">

Oh my God ...

**Ravyn and Coyote look at each other, then toward Jimmie, sleeping in the back seat, with concern as the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:58:00 PM
IP: 207.91.254.57

Let's see if I get it right this time.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:45:23 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Let's see if I get it right this time.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:44:27 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Here's fun site for garfans and rp'ers.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:39:15 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Avalon Mists still accepting artwork! We're always a little low on artwork. So, you artistic types, give, give! Give 'til it hurts! Send them to Christine at vecna@eskimo.com by Sunday for inclusion in the next Avalon Mists! ; )

The Illuminati and Me > uh ... urm ... Kyryn, all I can say is that my anniversarry isn't on 5/23 for no reason ...

Hathor and Me > I so love having a reputation!!! ; )

Five Books >
1. Raptor Red, by Robert T. Bakker (read it! read it now!)
2. The Stand, by Stephen King.
3. Strangers, by Dean Koontz.
4. Swan Song, by Robert McCammon.
5. It, by Stephen King
(and then I'd sneak Lightning, by Dean Koontz, into my carry-on bag because I couldn't bear to only have five ...)

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:28:59 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Clicky my name for a picture of a REAL basilisk. This little fella looks kinda like mine...
Robby
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:26:09 PM
IP: spider-wb031.proxy.aol.com

Spike is there a problem with the Gathering website? I've tried to connect since last night and can't get any response from Khatt.com Also I can't get in through the text door either.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:14:52 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Wilek> Thanks for forgiving me. :) Again, sorry about that. <:)
Oh, and the Real Audio problems? They've been that way since Gargoyles-Fans became Linux. Funny, I seem to recall mentioning that to the staff several times, and they didn't do anything about it. *looks annoyed* The MP3s work because I fixed them myself (with IRC Goliath's help), but that's it.

Deuce> You can get it now- it's on the The Best of James Bond 30th Anniversary Collection CD. One I recommend. :)

James Birdsong> Mayhaps we should form a club. ;)

***BUFFY SPOILERS*** I liked this ep. :) Vampire Willow was fun, as was our Willow's reactions to her. So was our Willow as Vampire Willow. :) And I hope we see more of Anyanka. One nit- I thought Faith was going to be punished by the Watcher's Council, and was now on her own. But here she's back with the Slayer crew like nothing ever happened. I'm confused. <:)
Where's Amy the Rat? ;)
***END SPOILERS***

Carolynn> Now that is kewl. :) Wish I could go there.

Fleur> What's almost frightening is, for them to put that warning, someone musta done that...

Robby> Die Fleidermaus and American Maid are divorcees? Of course. :)

Doug> Man. That's a true tragedy with your old school.

Age&Gender> I'm 18, male, and a high school senior.

Batman Beyond> I have to agree- this show is getting dull fast. It's in a dull, repetitive pattern, and there's no character development at all.

Personal News> The website will get new links and fiction this coming weekend, and new TGE stuff the next.

Well. I wouldn't want to bore y'all, so I'll go. Seeya. :)
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 07:50:58 PM
IP: 211-26-169.ipt.aol.com

Greetings, everyone.

Women: I agree that the physical standards shouldn't be lowered just to accommadate females. And I think that if I was ever drafted, I'd end up sitting behind a desk, because I'm a klutz with bad aim. :-)

Carolynn> Well... males can take a while to mature past that. Actually, I don't think they actually do, they just become better at hiding and controlling it... *grin*
I used to speak Chinese; now I only understand it, which does make for some humorous situations at times... I sort of gradually lost my hold on the language when I started school, so I don't think I've been able to properly speak it since the age of four.
That school you talked about sounds really nifty. :-)

Doug> I'm glad somebody understands! Sounds like great developments in the plot of your saga; I look forward to reading it.

Silver Arrow> I am eighteen years old. I think I was certainly more aware of things than my peers when I was younger, but now, well, I think it's plateaued... although sometimes people think I am older. They seem so surprised when I tell them I am only a freshman; some think I am a graduate student already. Maybe it's because I am a kind of reserved personality. All right, enough of me...

Zath> (Ack, yet more of me! I bet you all are getting sick of hearing about me...) I'm a shirt-and-jeans type of person myself. I think the only time I will actually want a dress very badly is on my wedding day. *grin*

Gargoyles songs: I just thought of one, but I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet; it's...
"Who Wants to Live Forever" (yes, I've seen "Highlander") I think it fits in well...

Hmm, I keep thinking I am forgetting to mention something! Well, I suppose I'll just have to wait for it to come back and hit me in the head later on. BTW, sorry this post is so egocentric and narcisstic. :-P

Farewell, everyone.
Blue Caeru
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 07:46:25 PM
IP: ppp-96-ts51.nerdc.ufl.edu

*BUFFY SPOILERS START*

Like the other folks here, I liked the "Vampire Willow" episode last night, and found it quite amusing. And it was certainly a lot of fun seeing Willow respond to her alternate self, and vice versa. Probably the funniest bit came when Willow was at the Bronze pretending to be "Vampire Willow", and giving a brutally accurate description of herself. Well, that, and the bit where Angel comes into the library, tells the others that Willow's dead and become a vampire, turns to Willow and says "Hi" to her, then suddenly halts as it starts to register on him that she's there and still alive. Quite a delightful romp, I'd say.

*BUFFY SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:44:19 PM
IP: 216.89.146.88

Hmm...maybe I'll go back to this color. ;)

Silly Tests> Hah! Arizona's full of 'em. We've got the ASAP test (otherwise known as "A Sappy Test"), the Stanford 9's, and a new thing called the AIMS test. And they're all silly and pointless. ;)

Carolynn> Cool story! I'm glad to hear that art students love to study gargoyles. That's *gotta* bring in some more fans. :)

Robby> Aww...**blushes, glances at Coyote**...thanks. :)

SJ> **holds up right hand** I promise everyone in this room that I'm *not* a 40-year old balding man. Honest. :)

Silver Arrow> Well, I'll admit that I'm under 18. People tell me I act older, though. Oh, well. :)

**RP!**

**Charlotte the convertible has taken Ravyn and Coyote onto the interstate, with the tank following close behind. Ignoring all the weird stares from other drivers, Rav lets go of the wheel and lets the car drive itself.**

"Man, I *love* not having to hold on to the wheel."

**Coyote grins and takes a look around. They're still in Texas, somewhere between San Antonio and El Paso, and heading west. And there's nothing around for miles and miles. Rav looks over at Coyote and speaks up.**

"Enjoying the wide open spaces?"

**He smiles, she smiles. After a few moments Rav breaks the silence again.**

"Coyote, do you have any idea where Jimmie's family might be? We can search all of Arizona, but that might take a while..."

**Ravyn is cut off as the screen switches off.** **END RP!**
Ravyn
Arizona
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:39:05 PM
IP: svm-ts3-29.c2i2.com

*Walks in and gives Trent a Cookie* Very Kewl ... 'I could'a been somebody, Charlie ... but for you, I take a one way ticket to Pilukaville ...' *Walks back out chuckling to himself*
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:25:59 PM
IP: 141.133.134.81

I don't understand the slang word jammer but I am glad my being a gentleman is still considered a good thing to people in the 90's. Go ahead and laugh all at how I handle insults. It's a compliment really. I want to be a comdian when I grow up. Well really an actor but I hope to get comedy roles whether it be in theatre or tv acting. I heard someone mention a dream about a gargoyles/tick crossover. I can see it now, That guy dressed in brown with cape and bat like mask trying pick up lines on Elisa <chuckles>
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:16:08 PM
IP: dt043ne2.san.rr.com

Don't have too much time to chat, so I'll be as quick as I can :)

Thanks for the welcome back, Kitania :)

Silver Arrow< I'm a 15-year-old sophomore girl. How about the rest of us in here? I know some people's ages, not everyones, I'm afraid. And you're right; a lot of you guys sound real mature. Kudos for that :) I never did like it (or agree) when adults complain that kids are just lazy snots who don't do anything in this world.

Todd< That's interesting about Batman Beyond, Todd. I was concerned about the same thing just this weekend, with the new episode with the Hero Trio, or whatever their names were. I'm starting to lose interest in the newer Batman series really fast, mostly due to the character development. Bruce Wayne is still his crotchety self, and Terry is still doing the fighting while Bruce remains the brains behind the Bat. I thought a few eps back (when Inque was introduced and took out parts of the Batcave), the two would start having more bonding, or at least Bruce would show Terry some of the stuff in the cave. So far, every ep has been very similiar to the other. Terry fights some new problem that's come up, and Barbara Gordon has only made a few appearances, and each time it hasn't contributed much else new to the show. It's a little disappointing. I hope something new comes up soon. The reason the original Batman series was so cool was because each show was different from the last. Each of BB's latest episodes are just stamps of each other.

Gotta run. I'll check back in later, don't worry to the rest who's comments I haven't responded to, yet :) Peace out!
Carolynn
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:04:51 PM
IP: spider-tk081.proxy.aol.com

Kaioto> On the Waterfront. The actor was Marlon Brando. The line was "I coulda been a contender..."

Where's my cookie!
Trent the champion - [trenttownsend@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 05:14:55 PM
IP: 147.226.113.249

***FINALLY! SPOILERS & COMMENTS FOR ‘LETHE’***

“I’ve waited 975 years for this moment, Goliath. And it was worth the wait.” ---Archmage, AVALON PART THREE

Well, that’s a bit of a fib, but I have waited around 50 hours since I would have liked to read it. The bit that is true is that it was worth the wait.

Conceptually, this is a wonderland. I have to say as I read this I did feel rather sceptical at odd moments given that this sort of thing human-gargoyle reversal thing has been done several times before. Still, I can’t knock it.

Demona’s reaction is glorious, her PIT interactions sumptuous, Angela’s guilt perfected, and the rest of the clan bang-on form. It brought so many little quirks of Gargoyles and TGS to life once more; *great* to see bigger players like Montrose not upstaging a chance to reintroduce minor people like Harold, or to bring back ‘Salli’ from TURF, or even to remind us that the Cold couple still exist!

Only two annoyances, and both are highly subjective. Angela seemed to learn to use such a powerful spell in a rather short space of time, although I suppose it was bought into perspective by her dating. I suppose Autumn too… what? “The first robbing of spring” (lovely line :)) would suggest sometime in Spring, so judging from previous eps perhaps April? I suppose Autumn to Spring-Summer is OK, but because there has been little exposition I feel a bit cheated on this front. The second is that it was so long… it should have been a two-part story!!!!! Of course, the only reason I’m saying this is that I’ve been busy and couldn’t read it, which is, to say the least, frustrating in the extreme. :\

It’s a lovely addition to The Gargoyles Saga, and with enough character in it to put almost every other episode to shame. Top job to all the talented writers, story concept-people and artists that composed it.

And just when I get in front of the TGS scene, it’s almost Timedancer time… one step forward and two steps back! ;)

***END SPOILERS***

Oops… stuff to do. Bye! ^_^
ED - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 04:45:57 PM
IP: p02-canary-gui.tch.virgin.net

Just a quick note:

I'm working on a filk for a song I found a number of years ago. It's called 'How in God's Name..' by Jim Perkins. The first time I heard it was at a Rennaisance Festival, being performed by a guy named Gibbon the Troubadour. He was also singing another of Perkins' songs: 'The Banshee'

The first verse runs:

Standing high upon battlements broken
Gazing out o'er crashing surf
Nothing before but the eternal ocean
Nothing behind but the rocks and the turf

That particularly makes me think of Castle Wyvern after the massacre, with either Goliath or the ghosts of the gargoyles as the one looking out. Anywho, I thought it sounded cool so I'm trying to work it into a filk.

Later all,

Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 03:01:29 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

3 Quick Addendums ...

1 - Mighty Mighty Bosstones album is 'Let's Face It' *Wonders where to typo demon ran off to ...*

2 - I had a thought that made me laugh at work today after I made that post. I could imagine a sermon ending with the phrase, "That's the bottom line, 'cause JC said so ...' :)

3 - Silver Arrow: 18 years of age, though I've been mostly like this intellectually since the 8th Grade or so ... spiritual growth, of course, has happened since then, though.

That's it, just tidying up ...

*Heads out of the CR, but spies the typo demon in the corner ... hiding ... 'Hey you ... yeah you with the tail and horns ... I'm talking to you ... Get back in the photocopier with the rest of the demons before I put you there ...' Typo demon glances at the remains of Kenny and DisConnect that the other CR posters have left behind. Wisely, the Typo Demon complies to the demand ...*
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 02:41:25 PM
IP: 141.133.134.81

I have to ask how old are most of you. From what I have seen so far in this room most of you sound over 18.
After reading the who hoe down about the pope and those under him made me wonder how old are these people. If your still under 18 it's good to here younger people really concern about thier world.
Take Care
slvrairo
Sliver Arrow - [slvrairo@san.rr.com]
San Diego, CA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 01:57:38 PM
IP: dt0d0n26.san.rr.com

Just to let everyone know, I'm going to ask Gorebash to update the comment room pictures. Some will be added, some will be changed. Until he makes the changes, however, you might notice that a few of the pics here might look a bit... funky. I apologize for this in advance but, if things go well, we'll have a few more friends to post with.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 01:48:01 PM
IP: lab-pc-04.clicc.ucla.edu

5 CD’s: Well, assuming I had to go commercial and not burn a bunch of mp3’s ….
1.) Andrew Lloyd Webber’s ‘Jesus Christ Superstar’ - Original Version (not the movie)
2.) Bare Naked Ladies ‘Rock Spectacle’
3.) Dave Matthews Band ‘Live at Red Rocks’
4.) Mighty Mighty Bosstones ‘Just Face It’
5.) Garth Brooks ‘Double Live’ (The only country I have ever actually liked … has to count for something …)

5 Books: Well, again, we’ll stick to novels and series rather than poetry or scripture ..
1.) David Eddings’s ‘The Belgariad’
2.) David Edding’s ‘The Mallorean’
3.) Piers Anthony’s Xanth Series (don’t have to serious all the time)
4.) Terry Goodkind’s ‘Wizard’s First Rule’
5.) Michael Moorcock’s ‘Eternal Champion’ Chronicles

5 Movies:
1.) Star Wars (The whole thing)
2.) The Princess Bride
3.) Ben-Hur
4.) On the Water Front (A cookie for the gentle-being who can tell me the name of the lead actor and his most famous line from this movie.)
5.) Buckaroo Banzai

Doug: Wow, that guy sounds more like a secular values pusher who uses religion as an excuse that anyone who should be let into the clergy. If a man cares more about how his school looks and less about how well the lessons of tolerance and love Christ brought to us are taught, then he should not be a priest. *Hands shake a little* I try not to hate anyone, but people like that give my religion a bad name … ERRRR … If I ever become Pope or something, I’m going to start excommunicating Kennedy’s and demoting Bishops and Cardinals. Everyone in a position of authority is going under review, and anyone bad enough to be dismissed from the clergy is going to be publicly flogged before I boot them … OK … breath … deep calming breath … OK … don’t need to flog anyone … OK … mercy, forgiveness, tolerance … breath …

**This is becoming a rant now*
Maybe we do need a Pope with a big stick and a can of whoopass though … His Holiness John Paul II is a good example and role model, but his bishops and cardinals keep him away from much of his job of a world leader. They constantly pull these little things behind his back too, like granting annulments to several-year-old marriages to certain political figures who shall remain nameless … but I’ve still got a grudge there … I’m tired of watching religion and moral values and ideals kow-tow to stupid political games. I think we need some leaders that stand up an call it like they see it, people that just say no to selling out or playing these stupid games. I want some body to stand up when something really wrong happens point like the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and shout out at the top of his lungs that it is sick and wrong. I want somebody that won’t shut up and will constantly annoy and pester the rest of the world until they make a change. I want a Pope that would walk up to Slick Willie and spit in his face when the situation calls for it. I want a leader who will get into a shouting match with Premier of China over human rights violations. I want a man who is willing to stand up for his principles no matter what high-muckety-muck’s feet he steps on. In short, I want a man just has no asparations to excel at political games, but instead breaks the rules with impunity and still succeeds. On top of that, I want a man who is ready to take the world on full tilt, something that Pope John Paul I tried to do, including cleansing the Vatican Bank of all Mafia moneys etc.
One might note, however, Pope John Paul I died mysteriously before he had a chance instituting any of his changes. Pope John Paul II had other, less dangerous priorities in his papacy. He makes speeches throughout the world, but the media tries to ignore him, and never pays attention to his messages. The Papacy has done little to change that in the past years. I don’t like the idea of always preaching to the choir. Now I’m not talking about beating the rest of the world over the head with the religion. I’m talking about taking a stand on issues that have the moral factor to consider. When the time comes to select a new Pope, I hope we can find a loud, slightly annoying crusader who thumbs his nose at Hollywood, America, and First World selfishness in general as well as dumps on dictatorships and oligarchies and communism. I also hope we can get some better training for His Holiness’s Secret Service, because I suspect that Pope John Paul I’s group didn’t do so good of a job.

- I’m not bitter or anything …

**Breath … End Rant … Breath**

**Master Card Commercial Spoof**
1 Louisville Slugger baseball bat. - $13

1 Pair of Steel Toed Boots - $75

1 Whoopass transfusions from Stone Cold Steve Austin - $316,000

1 Pope who marches into the middle of the middle of a UN summit and breaks the conference table in half to shut all the bickering bureaucrats up so they can finish up on world peace - Priceless

Thought of the Day: Truly, in scripture, Christ tells us that to serve God is to love thy fellow man. He says to put anything else before God is a mortal sin. Put these two statements together as they were given together and you have the most fundamental Truth of the entire Judeo-Christian belief system … Put the well-being of other people before all the false gods in our lives, like money, power, lust, and fear. Live for each other, Love one another, that is God’ will, that is the point. Nothing, no amount of dogma or prayer matters more than that.

Question of the Day: Who does worship and religious service really benefit, God or Man?

Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 01:09:34 PM
IP: 141.133.122.73

Almost forgot.

Zath: I agree with you about dresses. I only have two in my closet, and the last time I wore one of them was when Doug's mom came (the first time in three years). Pants and skirts are just much better for the female form, IMO. And you aren't whistling Dixie about the drafts. :)

Later,
Kitainia
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:52:57 PM
IP: fac-b-b9.lib.utexas.edu

**RP STUFF HERE**

Traveler has just jetted off for God-knows-where, and the Ravens are debriefing Jaden. "Calm down, Kitainia," Doug tells his girlfriend. "It sounds like Traveler is doing nothing in the timestream except business as usual." "But..." "Hey," Jaden says, changing back to his normal self, "I was with him, and during that time he did nothing that would have helped Thailog. He didn't kill me, he didn't turn me over to Tracker or his boss, we're all still here. Maybe Traveler's on our side, and he didn't know what Marsh was doing with their company?" "Well, he knows now," Kitainia says. "So why is he running away from us and going gallivanting across history instead of helping us take Marsh down? Whose side is he on?" "I don't know," Doug says. "But we better find out soon. And with Traveler gone, there's only one person to ask who might know- Roger Marsh." "Doug," Gubio interrupts. "There's no reason Marsh would know whether or not Traveler's a bad guy." "I think there is," Doug says. "We need to go find Marsh, and ask him whether or not Traveler's helping him work for Thailog." "He's right," Kitainia says. "I also think I know a way we can get Marsh to talk. Let's go back upstairs and get on the computer." They head back into the hotel (don't know the name, doesn't matter since we won't be here much longer), and Kitainia turns to make a post as they take the elevator up.

**PAUSE RP**

Basilisks: I remember those things. Wonder when they're gonna come back and wreak some havoc. I also want to see what the Unseelie's Onis and Whowies are like, they've been mentioned but we have yet to see them in action. Hope we see them soon.

Spice Girls: These girls occupy some of the top ten spots on the lists of music artists I hate. But I agree with Doug about them being Gargs fans.

Dumlao: Thanks for putting up the rules. They look fine now that they're fixed. BTW, in case anyone's wondering, the reference in them is from L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth series. Those books were supposed to go through an alien robot censor who replaced every swear word it found with <bleep>. Doug and I got such a kick out of reading those novels (Soltan was such a great comic villain, and I loved the satirical view of Earth they had.) that we couldn't resist somehow mentioning them in this CR.

Kaioto: I too agree with you about stereotypes. I think Doug's already explained our feelings about religion and why we don't dislike Catholic schools, but we do despise what the Catholic school he used to attend is becoming because of Galante. And like your school, it is now producing masses of anti's instead of good mature people who have religious values but don't feel the need to beat others over the head with them. It's a tragedy, IMO, and Galante deserves everything he's getting for it in the RP. But we have nothing against any specific religion, race, or ethnicity. Just against evil individuals in certain ones. I hope you understand that.

James Birdsong: Ah, so we have another Jammer in here. (He makes the same kind of comments to people that tease him as you do, though he's not nearly as much of a gentleman.) I think you're a very smart person. Good luck keeping your gentlemanly ways. I know from experience how hard it can be to not get angry in a world like this.

Demona Taina: I'm with Doug in this, too. Your English is very good, and your creativity makes stories that are both humorous and interesting. I look forward to seeing more of them come out from you soon.

Zath: Welcome back. I too thought you were the wrong gender. Sorry about that, I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. Glad to know you're still our friend regardless of how we unknowingly treated you. I also enjoyed watching Shakespeare in Love.

Women in Selective Service: I agree with everything Doug said about this, it's a good idea. I also think it's necessary. Not just for our society to mature, but for the sexes to attain true equality. You want to do that, you have to take the bad with the good. Women have to stop hassling men to put them on an equal footing in society, and at the same time demanding that they recieve special privlieges. That's not equality, it's wrong. I could say the same about a lot of the minority groups in this country. They all need to realize the true meaning of equality, as do the WASPs in charge of the nation. It means equal rights for everyone, with no special privlieges one group gets and another doesn't (children and handicapped people are the only exceptions to this rule, IMO), no prejudices, and no laws made to apply to only one group of people instead of the whole. If we could learn this lesson and utilize it, I think our society would be in a much better state. Putting women in selective service is one good step to teaching this lesson to the people of today (especially women like Patricia Ireland, or those in the Femi-Nazi movement), the sexes need to learn to live with each other and depend on each other for society, not live against each other and each make demands that the other conform to their way of how it should be. If I had to register for the draft, I would gladly do it. And I would then go forth and fight in a war with pride, patriotism, and all the emotions for which y'all know me in here. I know many other women who would do the same, and hope the rest of society will someday learn to accept and/or be like them. That's all I have to say about that.

Coyote: Thanks for answering my question. Hope you get a new and better scanner very soon. And I wish you continued good luck with your stories.

Durid, Carolynn, Green Baron, Jaden, anyone else in here who's returned to the CR after a long absence- Welcome back. Welcome also to all newcomers.

Steve: Thanks for posting your novel. I have to say that so far it is much better than previous movie novelizations I've read of The Rock. I definitely like your charecterizations. Keep up the good work!

TAAS: I took that and passed with flying colors, but I didn't get to skip school because of it. Robby, you are so lucky getting to miss out on such a dumb test. (I had about the same experiences taking it as SOROW).

Green Baron: Thanks for your support, we shall definitely take your advice to heart and utilize it. Even though I disagree with a lot of his policies and political views, I have the same respect you do for the Pope. Southpaw is slang for left-handed person. Oh, and btw, if you want to see the character Doug named after you, he's mentioned in "Captives." The guy will also come out on stage in "Inner Demons," the upcoming fic where Johnny, Seth, and some of the Manhattan Clan (all of whom are suffering from the title) must team up to take down the Bloods once and for all. That time, it'll be personal. (Wait for the upcoming fic "Goblins" to find out why it will be so for the clan.)

Ravyn: Tom Wilson was Biff as well as Matt? I knew his voice sounded familiar! Thanks for that interesting tidbit. :)

Kyryn: I completely agree with you about requirements for people in the police force, fire dept., and military. Carrying a two-hundred pound weight while running through a burning building is something I've already done, so is fighting bad guys who attacked me (RL bad guys, I'm talking about gangs), and going through an obstacle course worse than anything GI Jane went through one in my life (It was a bad neighborhood of San Francisco controlled by the Gangsta Disciples, where the streets were so trashed and the buildings so ruined it was like an urban jungle literally). I had no eased-up requirements in any of these, and people who get into the situations those three jobs put you in should not, either. The enemy's not going to slack off on soldiers just because they're women, nor is the fire on firefighters or the crooks on police. So the drill sergeant will be giving his recruits a disadvantage when they get out there in action if he does.

Buffy episode: This one was the best. I liked it for all the same reasons as Doug and SJ. Both Willows were very well-developed and great characters. Wish they'd shown more of the Willow vamp.

Hollywood Stuff: Next season of X-Files is the last? Good, they're running out of stories to tell us. I'll miss the show, but it's true. As for Parasite Eve, I look forward to seeing the movie, with or without Madonna. I just hope they improve the plot and character development for PE in the movie, and keep the cool special effects.

Jaden: Good luck on your midterm. Like I said before, welcome back to the CR.

Traveler: $ Ooh, your RP made me lose my temper a little too much with Jaden. Oh well, that's okay. I think Doug and I recovered it. As for why you were waiting, we understand. Thanks for telling us the reason, and once again we're sorry we got a little impatient back there, though you obviously liked our idea. $ Hope to see you back in the CR real soon.

Todd: I agree with you about Gargoyles, and Batman Beyond. Though it's still a good cartoon even if it's been concentrating on the villains more than the heroes. IMO, it's definitely one of the better cartoons on TV today, especially when compared to stuff like Teletubbies, Hysteria, and Pepper Ann.

Dave: The movie's for me and Doug like it is for Mandi. Very funny, romantic, interesting, and good film. Plus it has Frank Langella in it, and he's already been in Doug's fanfic (he was the ideal voice of Thanator in "After the Flood").

Mandi: I agree with you about Faith. I too liked her until she switched sides, and would have liked to see her reaction to Vamp Willow. She did have an interesting role in this episode, though, one that will be important to future eps. And her outfit was also very neat.

Hmm, getting to class on time. I better do that. Said all I had to say. Later!

**RP AGAIN**

The team goes upstairs and Gubio sits down at his computer. "Okay, Kit," he says. "What's the plan?" "First we need you to send Marsh a really bad virus," Kitainia tells him. "Something so terrible even his antivirus recovery team can't get rid of it. Then we go to San Francisco, tell him we can, and blackmail the guy." Jammer chuckles. "I LOVE the way you think!" Doug nods, and so do the others. "Good plan, Kitainia," Doug says. "But what virus can we use that Micheal Meade won't be able to get rid of?" "I know just the one," Gubio says, checking his e-mail. "Yes, it looks like it's here!" He points to two messages and brings them up. One's from David Xanatos, saying that he and his partners (including Dominique Destine, Fox, and a mysterious unnamed fourth rich guy who apparently owns a lot of Marsh stock) are ready to make a hostile takeover of Marsh Industries anytime Gubio's ready. Gubio sends them a reply saying to let him and the Ravens get Marsh first, then opens the second message. It's from his net girlfriend Erin in the Middle East. Gubio smiles and taps the lines of code. "She came through! This virus is a beauty, it's the ultimate in system crasher demons. Not only will it put an impenetrable lock on Marsh's system, it will also begin collecting all his personal files and putting them in a zip folder. In one week, if the virus isn't killed, it will e-mail that folder to every major news agency. Giving them irrevocable proof of all Marsh's dirty deeds." "In other words, his public reputation will be destroyed," Keith says. "His company's stock values will plummet, no one will buy his products, he'll be bankrupt in a matter of days." "Unless we stop the virus," Doug says. "And we only will if Marsh does what we want." Gubio nods, entering a few commands in the laptop. "There, I sent Marsh the virus and told Erin thank you. It will appear on Marsh's system at Doug's next RP post." "Let's get our stuff packed and get to Marsh's headquarters in San Francisco," says Kitainia. "We have no time to waste." The others nod and they head off to their rooms to start packing. The screen fades out.

**RP IS OVER, YOU CAN LOOK AGAIN**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 11:11:26 AM
IP: fac-b-b8.lib.utexas.edu

I'm done with the party RP. Thanks for humoring me, all!

Traveler> << I'm sorry but all of the rangers are dead. >> *All* of them, or are you referring to those that are actually working for Saban now? The actor I used was dumped this spring, so he doesn't count. Besides, I'm done doing the party RP. Let me have my delusional happy ending. :)

Doug> You're incorporating "Dave" into your fic cycle? LOL! I love that movie! It's one of the few movies that I've seen a billion times and have yet to get sick of. Fanfic character names -- For me, most just pop into my head and stick. One of the billion fics on my backlog is a non-Garg Buffy fic, and I gave Faith a last name that my beta readers absolutely hate, but it stuck completely in my head. (DID they ever give her a last name? Well, in my fics she's a Mackenzie.)

You know what would be nice? Being on time for work today. Got to run!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 09:33:05 AM
IP: 144.175.17.229

TRAVELER - I agree with you; General Norman's moustache definitely made him look a lot like Hitler. One reason why I didn't trust him at all.

I've got my own theory as to why Terry doesn't really feel the focal character in "Batman Beyond", despite the fact that he's the title character, in the last few episodes. Much of it is the nature of the super-hero premise. His basic role is to be a sort of "U.S. Cavalry", stepping in to save the day; his life revolves almost entirely around crimebusting. Consequently, it often becomes easier to put the emotional core of the story in the case that the nominal series protagonist gets involved in and thwarts, rather than in the protagonist himself. It happens with the present-day Batman/Superman stories on the WB Network as well, quite often. For that matter, it even shows up a fair amount in an even older and more famous fictional detective than Batman: Sherlock Holmes. Take a look at the original Holmes stories by Arthur Conan Doyle. A lot of them have the real core of the story in the people whose cases Holmes gets involved in, rather than in Holmes himself (although he remains throughout a very memorable figure). In fact, in the very first Holmes story, "A Study in Scarlet", half the story was really a prequel focused on Jefferson Hope and the Mormons, long before they came to London or got involved with Holmes and Watson.

That's probably one of the leading reasons why I like "Gargoyles" as much as I do. Its premise was one that more naturally focused on the title characters. It's not so much about the gargoyles engaging in crime-busting (something that they only start doing at the very end of Season One), but about the gargoyles awakening in New York and having to adjust to life in the modern world while defending their lives and freedom from the various schemers who wanted to take these away from them. Thus, the clan was made much more the focus of the series. (For that matter, it's worth noting that nearly all the recurring villains in "Gargoyles" were after Goliath and his clan not because they were crime-fighters, as is the way with the villains in most super-hero animated series, but because they were gargoyles, and would have gone after them just the same even if Goliath and Co. had never taken an oath to protect the city).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 08:13:23 AM
IP: pn4-ppp-179.primary.net

*a dark energy portal begins to form in the TGS CR* DumlaoX- OH NO!!! NOT HIM AGAIN!!! I'm not sure how much more the room can take!!! *Traveler steps through the
portal* I'm baaccckkkk.... 'tis I the scourge of the TGS CR!!! *hehehehehe* Although I don't think I'll be making a post >quite< as long as the last one, for some time to come, if ever again. But then again, never say never.>:))

*****A five asterix salute, and a few lines of silence for the late, great, Gene Siskel. The balcony is now closed...*****





>Jaden- >>How long did it take you write all that? My finger would have fallen off.<< Let's just say I had some time on my hands, and enough to say to fill up that much space.

>Doug- >>. $ BTW, about your RP, there's a major continuity break in it. Namely, Kitainia and I are both very busy with killing lawyers right now, so we couldn't be interrupted. Also, no way Gubio would have found something that fast. So, can we just say that stuff happened at the end of this week, after all the bad lawyers are dead and Jaden, Janice, and I have stopped Jerry and Tom from blowing up Las Vegas? $<< Well, Doug you caught me there. Blame it on last weeks room being swallowed by the data abyss of the Internet. But, had I posted before (Friday), I could have easily fixed continuity by using one simple word that has gotten more writers out of a mess such as this more times that anyone can count. What is this amazing word? FLASHBACK.
*hehehehehe* As for Gubio, he's a super hacker, this is a RP, sure he could. >>Or if not, maybe there more to Janice than we know about. :)$<< Oh, there's much more, just
remember to tell the rest of us about it when you figure it out because I have no clue...(in more ways than one>:)) >>.72 caliber SOCOM, greatest handgun yet made- Two
hundred thousand dollars.<< Is there such a thing, and if so where can I obtain such a hand cannon?

>Kitainia- >>$ Great portrayal of me in the RP, you put down exactly what my character would have done when faced with that situation.<< Thank you much. I was really only
shooting to give you and Doug a somewhat realistic Q&A session with Gubio filling you both in with what he found. It would appear I succeeded. >>I think you do need to work
on your spelling, though. I noted various typos in your last two long posts.<< Forgive me, but I had been up for 36 hours, and I wanted to finish the post because before the
room had been consumed by the abyss, I asked Doug and you to put the RP with Gubio on hold, and you both did, so I felt a certain... responsibility to get my RP with him out as
soon as possible. Not doing this would have produced a, how to put it, "violation of trust"? And if you look at every level of society, you'll see that generally blind trust is
what holds it all together. Ex. I trust that you and everyone else will stop for a red traffic light. As for the mad scientist, how about Dr. Omega? Or perhaps Prof. Bob?

>DumlaoX- >>Dammit! If you gonna make long a$$ posts like that, give us all a warning.<< Hmmm... I suppose that message I gave the room after it was wiped that said
"Really long post I promised later." wasn't enough of a warning then.>:)) >>MAJORS-- Just for the record, and to remind myself of what I am now, if all things go well, I shall become a Sociology Major. What the hell you can do with that, I have no clue.<< Hmmm... score high enough and you could try getting a job with a government think
tank. Spend your days reviewing information and estimating when a country or specific area will fall into chaos. Or figuring out how to either cause or stop said chaos.>:))

>Argent- >>Congratulations on winning the award for the longest and one of the most time-consuming posts on record! :)<< Thank you much, and for the record, I was also
the previous record holder as well.>:)) >>(Oh, and just FYI: The year 2000 is THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON on the Chinese calendar!)<< It is???!!!!! Kick ass!!!

>Ravyn- >>Thanks for welcoming me back! :)<< No problem.

>Jewel- Good luck with the results of that job interview. Hope you get it. (It's generally a good sign if the interviewer is as uncomfortable or more so than the interviewee.)

>"Insanity as the path to happiness"- This reminds me of a line from one of Cyrway's fic's. It went something like: "Sometimes madness can bring peace Ed." And to get the
full story behind that line if you don't know it, read her stuff. This has been a shameless plug.>:))

>Wilek Nereus- >><<You want to know the easiest, quickest, and stealthiest way to kill an entire city? Ask me.>> I have to hear this; I might get the chance to use it...<< Ahhh,
but Wilek, thinking it up yourself is half the fun!!! BTW, very inventive Mr. Disconnect death. I think Traveler and Forfexx would get along quite well... *hehehehehe*

>SOROW- >>I don't know how everyone else feels, but I absolutely hate chemistry. My teacher's awesome, but the subject just makes me want to crawl up in my cave and cry.<<
Sounds abit familiar...I took Advanced Placement Chem. in high school, my teacher was a "good" person, and knew the material inside out, but couldn't teach it to anyone to save
her life. I said "screw it", and read through the Regents Chemistry Review Book (I don't know if anyone else knows what this is but it's not a text book, it's much better.) a few times nearly memorizing it. Guess what? I passed with a C+. Guess what else? That was considered a high grade seeing as most of the class failed. The only advice I can
really give you is: FOR GOD SAKES REMEMBER THOSE EQUAIONS!!!!
*hehehehehehe*

>Fleur- Blue apples? I....don't think so, but if you want to try one, have Kenny or Mr. Disconnect test it first, just in case. >>And congratulations on making such a long post
you screwed up the system. (Dumlao is gonna kill me for saying that. :))<< Any thanks is much appreciated; yea that's me, always pushing the limits.>:)) >>"She, that clan of gargoyles and that wretched Traveler destroyed my headquarters in Austin."<< I'm wretched???!!!! COOL!!! Although I'm not sure you checked my last post, it revealed
that I'm not just destroying Marsh Ind., I'm also technically it's owner.>:)) How's that for a twist?>:)) Although I've heard Doug and Kitainia want to have a little chat with me about this..... *suddentaly there's a thumping sound in the CR, Traveler turns to look and...* Oh boy, the tree's growing tentacles... RUN!!!!!!!

****BATMAN BEYOND SEMI-SPOLIERS****

Is it just me or did General Norman look allot like a bald Adolph Hitler? And that "Magma" looked allot like a non-morphable version of Clayface? The Fantastic Four
gone wrong parody aspect was entertaining though. I was laughing my A$$ off just about the entire episode. I will agree with Todd Jensen though, in that 'Bats felt like a bit
character in his own show.

****END OF BATMAN BEYOND SPOILERS. IT IS NOW SAFE TO RETURN TO YOUR HOMES.****

>Princess Estra- >>So do you guys know where to find Avalon? Or better, Puck? He owes me money!"<< Puck owes me to! We bet 10 bucks (literally, ten bucks, we are going to play a little pratical joke on his cousin Chris Kringle...) on the outcome of the O.J. Simpson trial.>:))

>Poetry- Everybody's listing some so here's one I'm fond of:

Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries

These, in the day when heaven was falling,
The hour when earth's foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.

Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
What God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay.

A. E. Houseman (1859-1936)

Hmmm...perhaps you could use that in you're fic cycle Doug. Or Coyote the Bando if you're going to use mercs. in your series. Wait a minute!! You are!!! Although who shall be the first to bribe me with a pepperoni pizza and a 2liter of Pepsi is any one’s guess. However, if it's the Rokkans I'd most likely use the opportunity to set the motherships power core to the cliched overload and use that as a distraction while I hide some "surprises" for them around the ship...all the while listening to U2's remix of the Mission Impossible theme. *hehehehehehehe* Pontiac...come'ere. How would you like to see some fireworks? Just look over toward the Rokkan mothership.
Then all you have to do is push this red button... *hands her a remote detonator and tries to stifle his madness tinged giggling*

>Mandi Ohlin- I'm sorry but all of the rangers are dead. The most were killed by Voltron. The rest I hacked into little pieces with my sword, then Bar-be-qed them, then I
ate them...sharing of course with the mutated poke'mon, before they turned into Legion. The left-overs I put in the buffet at the party marked as Roast Ranger. It went pretty fast. As for the "Bob Kiwi" thing, I'll give it a whirl.

>Stormy von Stalhein- Question(s): Just who is this mysterious garg? And why is a female named Luther? And when will we get to find out in your fics???!!!!!!

>JEB- >>I'll probably rejoin the TGS fan collective next week. :)<< Yes join the collective, after all, resistance is futile.>:))

>Gabriel- >>Is there a contest about long comments?<< Yes and no. It's really unofficial. It started because of...um...I think my second or third post which was a
monster. I think Robby possibly, I could be wrong, gave me the record for the longest post. I've held it since then.

>The current poll going around:

Albums: (LONG LIVE METALLICA!!!) I'd go out, rob a bank, and use that to buy a DVD recorder. (Hey I'm going away for a long time anyway) Then I'd transfer the collected works of Metallica, Iron Maiden, The Doors, Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beetles, Frank Zappa, Marilyn Mansion, White Zombie/Rob Zombie, Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Chopan(sp? I could never spell his name right and I don't feel like looking it up)and other classical works; Weird Al, George Carlin, and Adam Sandler. The rest of the space (trust me, that would only fill MAYBE three of the discs) I'd go through music lists and pick and choose.

Movies: The six Star Wars movies are titled as episodes, denoting a part of a whole. Therefore they are collectively ONE movie. The collected works of Clint Eastwood; This includes The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and Kelly's Hero's (Anyone else remember this movie?). Pulp Fiction and Silence of the Lambs and Seven spliced together on one DVD. There's Something About Mary and The Fifth Element spliced together on one DVD. And the collected works of Mel Brooks. And I'd smuggle in the collected works of John Wayne.>:)) And then I'd smuggle in some educational films; namely the collected works of The Three Stooges!!!>:))

Books: The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide by Douglas Adams (A leather bound compilation of all six of his series, which I'm currently working through, although I wouldn't exactly call it working, more like laughing.). Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park and Lost World condensed into one volume. (Lost World the book was much better than the movie.) My college Physics text book. (Don't ask, just don't ask.) I've never read any of his stuff but the movies are good so I'll give'em a whirl and say the collected works of Tom Clancy. And slot five I'll leave open for magazine and comic book subscriptions.>:))

>Now for that MASTERCARD ad for the being you know as Traveler:

One semi-morphable black duster and magically (done myself) enhanced cybernetic "encounter suit" armor (To contain my paradoxical physical manifestation so if I loose concentration, the current universe I'm in doesn't implode): $42,896,257.02 (I got a good deal>:)
Therapist for my therapist: $2,408,000.48 (and counting because you just don't know what the monkeys might do.>:)
Armory: Let's just say that the day my card was issued, is now a company religious holiday.>:))
Large bulk food bag of Hershey "TasteTations" (chocolate in hard candy form, who knew?): $12.56 (and counting>:)
Ability to stave off boredom by entering any number of realities to annoy the hell out of other sentient beings (especially fey whenever I run into them>:] in sometimes
destructive, always creative and entertaining (at least for me) ways: Priceless

>Steve Gooch- >>Traveler, Fire Storm > Check out
<http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/bomb/> For some GREAT stuff about all things thermonuclear. Want to see the effects of a 25-Megaton device detonated in airburst over
a city of your choice?<< COOL!!! I'd most likely survive a 25 Megaton air burst, AND still be able to see most of my other relatives incinerated!!!!

****WARNING! WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER!
GARGOYLES/PENDRAGON EPISODE SPOLIERS AHEAD!!!!****

>Lethe: How did Puck put it at the end of the episode "The Mirror"? "Ah...that was a merry romp!" Or something like that, but in any case, that's what this episode was. A
little ways into this story when I figured out the exact premise, I was overjoyed. Come on. Admit it, how many of you out there when thinking of how to give Demona a taste of
her own medicine came up with a temporary memory wipe scenario? The writers for this episode did it, and did it well. Most of the scenes with Demona after the wipe, I was,
well, laughing my ass off. Especially her reaction after she changes into her gargoyle form for the first time at the office. What she thinks of herself when her point of view
had been shifted to that of always having been human. If you notice though, in the scenes where she is human during the day, she is actually enjoying herself, instead of
walking around in a funk all day "because she has to associate with those pitiful humans". Even at night, in her gargoyle form, her character is still written as if she is
more....hmmm...lighthearted? That's not quite right, maybe...less bitchy? I don't know, but its like she had an attitude adjustment for the better. Which is why I can see some of the clan members wanting to leave her that way. Great art, picture I found the most humorous is a tie though; between the first, which is her reaction to her gargoyle self in a mirror. And the third one, where she's trying to type on a laptop with talons.
*hahahahahahehehehehe* Great character development on her and Angela. She probably had the mother of all stress headaches that night she, well it looked kinda like a
mild emotional breakdown, and had to tell Goliath and the Clan. One final note however. WHO HERE THOUGHT that when Angela told Owen her involvement in Demona's "amnesia(sp?)", that Puck was rebounding off the insides of the Owen persona
laughing histerically?

****END OF GARGOYLES/PENDRAGON EPISODE SPOLIERS, IN OTHER
WORDS, ITS SAFE TO START READING AGAIN!!!****

>Carolynn & Zath- Well, well, haven’t seen you two here in a while. Welcome back!!!

>Sevarius Jr.- EBERT & TRAVELER cont.: *finishes bludgeoning Ebert since he's relented on his rating of Babe III* Ebert: All right!! All right!! The movie...stinks!!! It sucks!!! One...*looks at thumb* broken thumb down!!! Traveler: Ah good, so then we're agreed; two thumbs down, and its going on our worst movies of the year list. Which, by the way, is going to be quite long this year... or else... *stands up and pulls a Salid Shooter from his coat* things could get...messy. Ebert*looking quizzically and fearfully at the device*: So..so...so until next time? Traveler: The balcony is closed...it needs to be steam cleaned.>:))

>Women in the Selective Service- If they can pass the same physical test as a male, and have no qualms about sliting someone's throat (even though actually having to do so is unlikely), I could care less if they were on the front.

>RP- Sorry I didn't post earlier, but I was waiting for permission from Jaden to use his character.

****WARNING!!! OVERDUE RP BEGINING!!!!****

Scene: Lobby of the hotel everyine is staying at. (What is the name guys?!!) *Traveler is walking out the enterence when Jaden who has joined the search for him, spots him and decides to follow him to see where he goes. He then notices a strange, but oddly familar car pull up infront of Traveler being driven by one of the attendants.* Jaden*whispering to himself*: Naww, it couldn't be... *Seeing that Traveler is about to get away, he pulls out a cell phone and tells Doug what is happening, then goes after Traveler just as he's getting in the driver's seat. Jaden throws open the gull-wing door and:* Jaden: Traveler!!! Get out now!! Doug and the rest of the team want to have a "talk" with you about Khaos Inc. Traveler*begins punching a series of dates into a keypad on the dash*: Oh, hello Jaden. So Kenny spilled the beans about that, huh? *hehehehe* I bet Kitainia was especially pissed about that. Well, good thing I anticipated this after Gubio started screwing around in the Marsh mainframes, with and all the surprises I left around the hotel to keep them busy, I wonder if anyone's found what I left in the pool yet?... *hehehehehe* Jaden: Yes, she and her sister want to rip your head off, and I'm not so sure I want to know what you meant about the hotel's pool, now get out. Traveler: No can do wolf-man. I'se got errends to run first. 'sides, I'll be gone by the time enough of the team gets here to stop me since their all currentaly "occupied", well, at least stand a chance of stopping me. *hehehe* Hey! Wanna come along? Just tell them when we get back that...you were keeping an eye on me.... *Jaden thinks it over: Well, he hasn't really done anything besides finance Marsh, who's company is now in shambles, no small thanks to him, which in itself is odd. And he hasn't attacked any of us when he's had tons of chances...On the other hand, he is psychotic* Jaden*leaps into the passenger seat and closes the door*: Sure, why not. Traveler: All right! Don't forget to say hi to CC, she's in the back seat. *a low growling noise is heard from the back seat* Jaden*nervous*: Um...hi... Uh, Traveler, if you want to get out of here, we better go now. *the ravens start to appear in the lobby and head toward the silvery car.* Traveler: No problem. *hits a switch and the car switches to flight mode and starts to speed away in mid air* Jaden: Wait a minute...this really isn't what I think it is, is it? Traveler: Yep, I could just put a little more "oommph" into one of my portals to produce the same effect, but Doc Brown gave me a good deal on it, and to paraphrase him "If your going to build a time machine, do it with some style!". Next stop, somewhere in the 1960's *Traveler then turns on the cd-player, which starts into White Zombie's I'm your Boogie Man (Remix)* Jaden*looking pale beneath his fur*: When will we be back? Traveler: Literaly before >they< *points thumb back to the ravens* know it! Jaden: I had to ask. *the ravens and the rest of the team look on helplessly as the Deloran dissapears in a flash of light into the time stream* Gubio: Did anyone know he had one of those? Kitainia: What I want to know is >WHERE< he got one of those!!! Doug: Well if he's jerking around with the time stream there's no telling what might happen, besides that he's got Jaden. Gubio: I just patched into the hotels' security camera's. I pulled an image and enhanced it. According to the read out on the control panel, he was heading back to sometime in the 1960's , the last digit is to disorted to make out. Doug: That means anything he does has already been done from our point of view. *Jaden walks up to them sipping a Slurpee with out anyone noticing because they're all still looking at the fire trail in the sky* Jaden: Hey so that's what that look's like from the out side. Everyone: JADEN!!! *he jumps back in surprise* Jaden: Hey...how long have I been gone? Kitaina*angry*: If you had time to get a Slurpee and walk here I'd say -20 minutes at least...*GRRRR* Where's Traveler? Fleur: And what >exactly< did you two do to the time stream? Jaden: Well...after we got back here from ancient Egypt...we got these *gestures to his Slurpee* and he dropped me off a few blocks away from here. He didn't say where he was going... *Kitainia charges foward and lifts Jaden off the ground* Did he mention ANYTHING about where he was going next??!!!! Jaden*angry*: Put me down!!! *starts to change* *GRRRR* He mentioned...*GRRRR* something about... a movie marthon, and that he was "going to see the boys" when he got back here...*GRRRRRR* Stephanie: "the boys"? Movie marthon? What the hell does that mean??? Jaden*calming down now that Kitainia's realised him*: I don't know, and as for what we did, most of it didn't make any sense, well, besides getting genetic samples from those dinosaurs, and spray painting graffiti on some of the Egyption Feys' temple's...*screen fades out*

****END RP. WHERE DID JADEN AND TRAVELER GO? WHAT DID THEY DO TO THE TIME STREAM? WHO'S SIDE IS TRAVELER REALLY ON? AND JUST WHO IN THE HELL ARE "THE BOYS"? (You get a gold star if you know. Hint: They were WAY ahead of their time.>:))
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 07:38:51 AM
IP: 208-170-115.ipt.aol.com

FIRE STORM, LADY MYSTIC, and OTHERS> I'm sorry. *tosses a single white rose.*
ZATH> I think that's my favorite poem so far!
SELANIT> Loved your little take on the Reinassance (sp?) festival earlier.
GREEN BARON> What pic did you choose for your last post? I can't remember seeing it before.
JASON and BRIAN> Welcome to the realm of the insane asylum rejects!

Taas> There's something like that in Ohio. You can take it for the first time in 8th grade, and you can keep taking it until your Senior year. But you don't graduate until you pass ALL five sectons of it. (reading comprehension, math, science, etc.)
Character names> Most of mine have unusual names. Usually I'll (I'm using a set of characters for examples.)
1.) just pull one out of thin air. (Nakia)
2.) name a character after some sort of characteristic or feature. (Ebony and Argent)
3.) When all else fails, I'll just make one up! (Skyver)

Gargoyles songs> Remembered two more!
Can you see her?
In the wild blue skies.
As the wind blows,
We were born to fly!
---Kenny Loggins 'The Horses'
Did you ever know that you're my hero?
You're everything I wish I could be.
I can fly higher then an eagle.
But you are the wind beneath my wings.
---Bette Mitler 'Wind Beneath My Wings'

Gotta Jet!
(Seven months 'till the new 'Dark Ages' eps!)
Argent
Ohio, USA
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 07:04:46 AM
IP: dyn050-nas02.marietta.frognet.net

Hey, everybody.

I see CrzyJen got in here before me. Just wanted to thank everyone, too, for the all the great feedback on "Lethe." I really had a ball writing this ep... Jen was terrific to work with, and her art just blows me away.

This was the first ep for this season for me... I just hope the reactions to the other ones I have coming up this good.

Thanks again, everyone!

:: hugs Jen and runs off ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 06:06:05 AM
IP: 170-100-172.ipt.aol.com

USA Today vote> We seem to be holding an 80 percent majority at the moment - should keep checking though, just in case. When does the voting period end?

Carolynn> Computer animated Bronx - any chance of getting a copy so you could pass it onto someone here to digitise and put up at Avalon or something?
My site has a couple of pictures in the media section that were taken from some promotional material used by the University of Bournemouth which features Gargs which have clearly been influenced by Brooklyn and Lex. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find out who's work they are.

Gargoyles related songs>
From the Gone Jackals album "Bone to Pick" which also features tracks used in Lucasart's futuristic biker adventure game "Full Throttle"

'We Want Our Brothers Back'

Too many believe
in some "master plan"
'cause it's hard to accept
what's not shapen by hand.

But here, under the sun,
where events can't be undone;
once superstition's spent -
You gotta know,
we want our brothers back.

The hurt came down from the clear blue sky.
The sands of time went rushing by.
It came as a shock,
we'd shut our eyes.
Is this all that's left,
just a slow good-bye?

Made me smile when I heard the lyrics.

Loved the new episode too.
Matt Dymond - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKWednesday, February 24, 1999 05:06:22 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

Hey all,

Geez, I've got a Comm prelim in nine hours and what am I doing instead of study- er, *cramming?* I'm posting to the CR. Ah, as Homer Simpson is so fond of saying, "Oh well, whattya gonna do?"

Selective Service and Equal Opportunity > A lot of good posts on this topic. I'm also of the opinion that there's nothing wrong with women serving in the military, even in combat, as long as they can still pass the same tests and fulfill the same requirements as the men. There shouldn't be lowered standards; if everyone is to be treated equally, then everyone should have to do the exact same work. I strongly agree with Kyryn's thoughts on women firefighters. If you can't carry a 200-pound man three flights of stairs out of a burning building, break down a door, and carry a giant hose coursing with water, then find another line of work. Likewise, if you can't navigate the obstacle courses, make it through the live-fire exercises, deal with the strict DIs, and hit the targets at the range, don't be looking for a front-line combat position.

Anybody see "G.I. Jane?" Terrible movie, but decent premise. The best part was when the Chiefs told Demi Moore's character to step on the footstool to go over the wall on the O-course, but she kicked it out of the way and did it just like the "other guys."

The premise of a female Navy SEAL in "G.I. Jane" appealed to me at first because I had written a major running character into a long series of fics that was supposed to be the only woman ever to graduate BUD/S and become a SEAL. Lt. (j.g.) Rachel Specter was a motivated, dedicated, tough-as-nails customer who held a lot of her classmates together because of her sheer determination. She got through the training and became one of the top operators in the Teams of my (military) ficverse... and she didn't use any footstools, either.

Now, if someone enlists and finds that they can't cut it as a combat soldier, then by all means give them a desk job, male or female. There are hundreds of thousands of rear-echelon jobs in the military: somebody needs to run the bases while the units stationed there are away. I feel this way for male and female personnel.

Now, a lot of people I know wonder why I didn't join up after high school, mostly because of my extreme enthusiasm for all things military. My own father wondered this out loud after perusing one of the fics I'd written, and just the other day my friend in NROTC told me "Y'know, you would've been great in the Navy." It's possible, but I don't think I'd ever get a chance to prove it. Y'see, I was a pretty scrawny kid, never played sports after little league until HS tennis, and you could probably say that I'm still built the same way, only taller. Frankly, that and the "wonderful" stories my father and uncles brought back from Vietnam were quite enough to keep me out of the service. However, should a major war break out and (God forbid) the Federal government reinstate the draft while I was eligible, I'd save them the cost of a letter and enlist in the Navy.

Oh, and I have no problems with women flying in combat. Just don't put them in tanks.

Why not tanks? Well, find me a woman who's okay with peeing in her helmet sealed in a tank with possibly three men during combat situations, and I might make a concession.

Fleur > You're welcome.

***Short Buffy Spoiler, Quotes only***

Quotes that floored me this week:

"...I'm a family man... Now let's go kill your little friend." -The Mayor is such a hilarious bad guy. I love villains that are so calm, collected, and thoroughly evil :)

"Oh, f-" -Vampire Willow as she jumped back to her world just in time to get impaled... again. I had that one called all the way up to the actual line, and I was ROTFLMAO.

***End Quote Spoilers***

Wilek > Actually, when I copied that quote down, I thought I *was* copying the original. Then I read it over and discovered the switch. Hehe.

Doug > <Just seeing if other fanfic writers do the same thing.> Where do we pull our names from? I grab some out of thin air, some from other books I liked, some characters are named after friends of mine (and usually end up with similar personalities, talents, and love interests), and others I take from a giant list I've made over the years. At the beginning, I had troble coming up with lots of names for minor characters, especially foreigners, so I turned to the handiest source - previous year's almanac with Olympics and sports coverage. Lists and lists of names, foreign and domestic. And I worked as a lab charter at a local hospital for two years, during which time all I did was collate lab reports for patients, something like twenty thousand total. Every time I came across an interesting name I'd jot it down and put it onto my list. Heh. Helpful when I'm finding names for throwaway characters like the Marines in The Rock.

About that, thanks for taking the time to read ch.1, I really appreciate it. Ch.2 should be done in a couple days, depending on my schoolwork schedule. It's slow going, and by the time I'm done watching 15 seconds of a scene, pausing, writing, rewinding, watching again - repeated about 10 times, I'm almost sick of it. [Grin] I said *almost.* Not a chance in Hell I'd get sick of the movie :)

And in fan news, I just found another guy who lives in my dorm who's a big garg fan. We'll probably be filling out each other's episode collections, and maybe I can get him to drop into the CR sometime... first, however, I must rid him of his sanity... [chuckles maniacally]

Again, linking name to part one of The Rock novelization, for all interested parties. And with that, I bid you adieu.

'Night all

==And on the Eighth day God said, "OK Murphy, its all yours."==
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 04:58:18 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

NO RP TONIGHT. I need to process all of this first.

Ok I know all of you are wondering what happened to me. You were asking "is Jaden dead?" "Is he sick?" "Did he do something insane like break his computer?"
The answers are no, no, and most importantly no. I have a very good excuse. MID-TERM. I was so busy with this mid-term I hardly had a chance to sit in front of a computer, much less get to the CR. On Monday I was all ready for the test when the teacher decided to wait till Wednesday. Since he's my fav. teacher I was able to resist the need to strangle him. So tonight I decided to come here Mid-term be damned! and my God did I miss a lot.

Doug-Great job with Jaden and thanks for keeping him going while I was gone.

Traveler-just incase you havn't gotten my e-mail yet, you can go ahead.

Hero-I'm for the type of hero that will aways do what he or she thinks is right no matter what the rest of the world thinks. Kind of like those DC comic characters The Teen Titans (Risk, Prism, Joto, and Argent).

5 CDs, 5 Books, and 5 Movies-This would take some heavy thinking for me to choose just five of each. I would pick ones that captivate me, get my attention, almost force me to watch, listen, read all the way to the end. Ones that try to explain the unknown. For example...there are how many different kinds of movies and books about King Arthur and Merlin. I'm all for subjects like Magic, supposedly Mythological creatures (Vampires, Werewolves, Centaurs, etc.) and other stuff like that. I too liked Dark City.

TGS SPOILERS!!!
Those are some great pictures. Angela's dream sent a chill down my spin.
I think Demona will be forever changed by this. I that artist was a great idea.
END TGS SPOILERS

Siskel's death-I'll miss agreeing with him when he gave a thumbs up on a movie I liked and yelling at him through the TV when I thought he was wrong.

Carolynn-I thought the same thing about Iris. First time I heard it.

Well I'm going to bed and to get ready for the mid-term, wish me luck. See ya later. Oh and by the way, Gargoyles was up to 80% when I voted earlies.
bye
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 02:02:39 AM
IP: pm0-3.vpop1.avtel.net

Forgot...

Maybe it's just my system, but the RealAudio versions of the TGS themes don't seem to work. I have the latest version of RealPlayer, and I got an Invalid Metafile error message. Hm. :/

Jason Baker> Welcome! And don't bother with your sanity from now on. Sanity isn't allowed here. <g>

FS, LM, etc> Oh, no...my condolences, friends. We're all here for you if you need us.

Brian Thietje> Welcome to you too! And...I'm not sure if the server itself has the Y2K problem; but the CR does. I don't know if it'll collapse or just show wrong dates; though...
Wilek
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:38:51 AM
IP: tnt-2-86-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**RP WARNING (yes, I knew I said I would put it on hold until Traveler posted again, but since he's taking so long and there's so much stuff going on..., not to sound insulting, but I'm gonna go ahead without him. Nothing stopping me, I want to. Traveler can always catch up, it's like he does it for a living with those incredibly long posts of his. Now on with the show.) **

On the Dark Star, (correcting Wilek's continuity mistakes), the false Wilek slaps his forehead, recalling "Miriam" is not with him (check the last couple posts, Wilek, you'll find 'she's' already off setting bombs). The guards look at him, wondering how their boss got so forgetful all of a sudden (not to mention him getting to be such a jerk). "Mr. Nereus?" one asks, looking at the false Wilek. Rho takes the opportunity to grab the radio. "Wilek, is that you?" he asks. "Yes, what's going on?" Wilek asks. "Sir, you and your team are already here," Roe says. The false Wilek continues railing at the guards to obey him, DMW joins in. The rest of their team just stands there and doesn't do anything. "No, I'm outside in my shuttle," Wilek tells Rho. "My team is dodging Metal Gear 5000s, and shots from the station. I swear to you, Rho, it's me!" "Then who is...?" Suddenly the Wilek and his team in the control room all draw laser guns and point them at Rho and the other Dark Star staff members. "Ha ha ha," the phony Wilek laughs. "I fooled you! I'm Wilek Fieger the first, evil clone of your friend Wilek." He points at the false DMW. "My triplet brother, Wilek Fieger the Second." WF2 bows. "And evil slave clones of the rest of the team." "I knew there was something suspicious about you!" Rho cries. "Mr. Nereus, get here fast!" The false Jake shoots the radio, ending the transmission. "Now, Rho," WF1 chuckles. "Your station is mine." He turns to the false Micheal Jackson. "Call Nipon. Tell him to move for Earth now. Everything is going according to the plans of Master Thailog, just as I thought they would. Muhahahaha!!"

The screen shifts to the hotel in Las Vegas, where Doug and Kitainia are looking for Traveler. So far, they've still had no luck. Doug turns to make a CR post.

**PAUSE RP**

Traveler: $ Hope you're not offended by the above comments. It's just when you say you have a post ready, we get all the RP stuff ready for you to jump in, and then you don't, we have to fill in the action somehow. Don't worry, we're not going to do anything you wouldn't do, though you might get a kick out of the RP at the end of this. Heheheh. Hope you post soon, man. We are waiting, after all. :) $

Argent: I remember the basilisks. And I would like to see them again, though I hope they don't turn anybody important to stone.

Spice Girls: I hate their music myself. And I think they all wear too much makeup. Their movie was also the worst thing Jammer and Tricia have ever seen (Kit and I took their advice and didn't go see it ourselves). But if they're Gargs fans, hey, the more of us the merrier. Welcome to the club.

Kaioto: I completely agree with you about stereotypes, and about religion. I have nothing against Christians in general, nor against Catholics. I only hate individual followers of the religions. Such as the street preachers on UT's West Mall who stand around yelling at people and damning them to hell just for not being how they want them to be. And Jerry, one of Kitainia's old boyfriends who has now become one of those guys. Perhaps the worst fundamentalist I've had the pleasure of meeting in my life was Bishop Joseph Galante of the Beaumont diocese. I went to Monsignor Kelly Catholic High School there my last two years of HS, and he took over the school in my senior year. At first I thought the guy was okay, because he smiled during our school's choir presentation for Mary's birthday, when they sang Hail Holy Queen, the Sister Act version. But he turned out to be a complete jerk. His sermons were chock full of demands for people to give their lives to God, that glorifying God and following his Commandments were the only things humans were supposed to do in life, that all else was useless and could possibly destroy our chances of getting into Heaven. He also instituted school uniforms, making lots of us students despise him. (We were justified, the uniforms made us all look like well-groomed dorks, and those who came to school not wearing them got sent home for the day and couldn't come back till the next day, when they were expected to be in uniform. :() Then after my class graduated, he fired several of the school's most creative and inspiring teachers, simply because they weren't as tough on teaching people Christian values as he would have liked. The principal Dr. Gagne, who was one of the wisest and nicest people I've ever met. She was assertive on discipline, always hearing all sides and considering all viewpoints. She was strict when she needed to be, and very on the side of the students. Under her, Kelly was made an exemplary school by the Board of Education two times. Galante didn't like her, he kicked her out and put in a guy who's very strict on Catholic values and the school's honor. My sister's still at Kelly, she swears this guy and the principal from Buffy would get along very well. Then there was Mr. Conway. Mr. Conway was the school's best teacher, IMO. I had him for music appreciation, Tolstoy literature, and the history of film. All were electives, but I think they were necessary because of the teacher. Conway took subject matter most students just shrug off as pointless to learn, and turned it into a way to teach us about our history, our society, and ourselves. And he always did it with a sense of humor and a positive mental attitude. I'll never forget the guy, he was one of the greatest people I ever had the pleasure of knowing. He inspired me and thousands of other students to look at music, films, books, and life in a new way, increasing our imaginations and level of thinking, and thus maturity. I don't think I'd be the same person I am now if it wasn't for him. And what did Galante do? He fired Conway, saying the man was teaching students the wrong things, stuff they didn't need to know, stuff that wasn't important. It broke Mr. Conway's heart, when he told me and some other students about it tears were flowing from the man's eyes. We empathized with him, and hated Galante even more for what he'd done. And that was just the big things.

I've heard from Sarah (my sister) and another friend at Kelly that he's doing more things there lately. Making masses mandatory, if students miss one he counts it against their grades. Expelling students just because he finds the image they give of themselves undesirable to the school's image as a place of God and learning (parents have fought him, and managed to get some of the students reinstated, but most of them have ended up at public schools). Forcing my old biology teacher Ms. Stevenson and my old chemistry and physics teacher Mr. Lambright to teach science from a strict Catholic (not a Jesuit) viewpoint with an eye for creationism and not teaching students that all things can be explained by science alone (Lambright and Stevenson were cool people, they never did that last thing, but does Galante trust them or what the students have told him about them? No). Forcing my old pal Dr. Yearwood and his fellow English teachers to give up teaching students Beowulf, Joseph Conrad, and similar texts and authors that have been damned as anti-religious by many fundamentalists and which I and my class regarded as some of the most inspiring and interesting novels we ever perused. My former homeroom teacher isn't supposed to put pictures of Elvis and other famous rock musicians, tabloid clippings, or newspaper comics on her wall anymore, because the Bishop says they don't inspire the kind of values he wants the school to teach. My old government teacher can't put socialism in her cirriculum (sp?) anymore, my old history teachers are being forced to talk about things like the Inquisition and the Crusades as though they were necessary and good things, all because the Bishop says so. No more chess games in the library, the school computer lab has powerful parental control programs on it (before they trusted us to be mature enough not to look up porn and satanic stuff, but not now), my friend and computer guru Kim Holt can't help fix the school computers anymore because he's 'a student, and students aren't supposed to mess with the computers unsupervised or even advise teachers on using them,' and in the cafetaria health food is replacing all the foods students like. It's terrible. Worst of all, nobody's been able to stop it. Tuition keeps going up as Galante pays for more and more 'reforms,' parents are pulling their kids out of Kelly and putting them elsewhere. Mom wants to get Sarah out, but she doesn't have the dough or the will (Mom doesn't trust public education) to put her anywhere else. Galante is destroying Kelly, and for that injustice to the institution that helped build me and many other fine people into who we are today (yes, it made some real jerks, too, but you have to take the bad with the good, don't you?), and did it without forcing us to conform to any values at all (what Galante is doing), I hate the man. That's why he's a bad guy in the RP.

Like I said before, though, I have no problem whatsoever with the Christian religion in general. Just certain followers of it. One of my best friends (Shap) is a born-again. But he's a very tolerant person, and like Mr. Conway in many ways. The kind of Christian who can laugh at himself, and let others go their own way, knowing the Bible is not the be-all and end-all guidebook for life people like Galante think it is. Same deal for my old pal Father Albert Haas, who was able to put humor into religious teachings and inspire us all (outside the pulpit he was known for smoking, drinking, and flirting with the ladies, so I wouldn't call him a completely good Christian, but his sermons made a lot more sense to me than Galante's did). And who could forget such great fictional religious figures as Father Mulcahy from MASH or Nightcrawler from X-Men, both of whom I could identify with and regard as friends back when I still saw their adventures in comics and/or on TV? Then there's Orion, the cleric in the RP, and all the other clerical roles my friends and I have portrayed in role-playing games. All were good religious guys, not bad ones. Same deal for my friend Thomas the Green Baron, who I've even named a character in my fanfic saga after just because I like and respect the guy so much. Religion is like any other human institution, it has both good and bad in it. We must remember the bad is there and deal with it, but we must also remember the good and make sure it stays. That's my opinion on the subject, hope you can better understand why we beat up on Galante and other Fundamentalist Extreme guys so much in the RP now, and that Kitainia and I have nothing against religion. On to the next thread.

James Birdsong: You sound like you're on a good gentlemanly crusade, my friend. Good luck on it. I too was laughing when I heard the comments you give people who tease you. I was of course laughing with you, though. :)

Kyryn: Didn't know the brain could do that, thanks for answering my question. I understand better now. Makes me wonder if I'll ever have a time in my life where my instincts will take over. :)

Demona Taina: I think your English is excellent. Better than my UT Spanish teacher's, in fact. I agree that you have a great imagination. If you do manage to dig up and write those old stories again, I'd be happy to read them. I know they would be interesting. :)

Shakespeare in Love: Interesting movie, and okay. I think it has a good chance at the Oscars, hope it wins. I'm just mad they snubbed The Truman Show. Speaking of naked women, I too liked seeing the nude Paltrow in SiL. But I'm even more looking forward to seeing Keri Russell in the upcoming "Eight Days a Week." Talk about a former high school dork's (yes, I was regarded as that by people most of the time, the other half of the time they were begging me to tell them a story, or help them with some personal or homework problem they were having, or mystery they were trying to solve. As y'all know, I'm very good at all of those. <grin>) ultimate fantasy! <VERY BIG GRIN>

Zath: Welcome back. You're female? Geez, I never would have guessed! Well, it doesn't matter. You're still our friend and CR compadre. Happy to have you in here. And your great poem. :)

Women in Selective Service: I'd like to see it myself. There's no one I'd rather have in a foxhole than Kitainia, she fights like Elisa running into Demona on a bad day. And Demona's got the clan tied up and unable to help, and she's trying to destroy humanity again. In other words, my girlfriend kicks ass bigtime. :) I also know girls who can bullseye a deer from thirty feet away (like Shauna), ones who are much better tacticians than any man (Kitainia, Tricia, and Stephanie), and ones who can fight just as well as Kitainia if not better. So I wouldn't mind having women in combat. I agree with Fleur, JEB, and Kyryn about the requirements and why women should fight. I've always had problems with the kind of fairy tale where the heroine is weak, ditzy, and needs the guy to protect her. I prefer heroines who kick ass right beside the hero. Like Sarah Connor, Princess Leia, Mulan, Elisa, Angela, Teela, Dana Scully, Buffy, Willow, and so on. Women like that is what we need in combat. Women like my mother and Cordelia (the 3rd season version) can stay out. But all women should still register if they have the option. I think this is also their country, and often they share many of the values for which we fight wars, therefore their presence would be welcomed by this man on the front.

Of course, let's not be forgetting all the contributions women have already made to wars in history. I speak of women like Clara Barton and her fellow Red Cross members, who nursed wounded soldiers. Women like Molly Pitcher, who ferried rations to the troops. The women who worked in offices and factories to supply the soldiers and keep the country running while their men were off fighting in both World Wars. Women like Forrest Gump's Jenny, serving as an inspiration to soldiers in combat, as someone waiting for them when they get home. Those women are all very important to a soldier. I like women like Kitainia or Tziporah (in Prince of Egypt), who are willing to follow their man into a bad situation and help him get through it rather than just stay home and let him do it by himself, patiently waiting for him to return, more than I like the historical women I've mentioned, but one cannot forget their importance. Yes, women should be fighting beside men, but in some ways they are already. On to the next thread.

**BEGIN BUFFY SPOILERS**

Willow in this episode...Yow Wow! Both Willows were majorly sexy. And their characters were well-developed, as were those of Buffy, Xander (who is again kicking ass), Giles, Cordelia, Wesley (I loved his comments after he saved her life), Anya (she's a cool villainess), and Oz. As for the plot, I had no problems with it whatsoever. My humor, aesthetic, and erotic senses were so turned on all throughout it that I failed to notice any mistakes they made. Vampire Willow was in top form (I especially enjoyed her conversation with Cordelia, the part where she beat up the football jerk, and her last words). So was Human Willow (I loved it when she impersonated her evil twin!). The scenes with both together, and Vamp Willow's attempts to do the unspeakable to Human Willow...that was a priceless creativity spawn. I also loved Xander's line- "So in your world, I'm like this badass vampire, and people are afraid of me? Oh yeah, I'm bad!" <grins savagely> I almost fell off the couch, I was laughing so hard! All in all, this ep gets a 10/10. It was one of the best Buffys I've ever seen. And you're right, SJ, the Willows had SO many cool lines.

Just one thing- It seems Faith is spying on the good guys for the Mayor. Uh oh. And they don't suspect a thing. Trouble. I wonder how soon they're going to notice her new house, and how she'll explain it to them. I'm also worried about how Xander is relating to Faith now that she's still around at the school and all. She did try to kill him, after all, how is he taking her not being punished for it or even admitting her guilt? Needless to say, I'm very much looking forward to the next new Buffy ep.

**BUFFY SPOILERS ARE OVER**

Blue: No, it's cool. I understand your feelings about compliments, I share them. They don't sound lame to me. I also agree with you about women in selective service. In our current political situation, such a thing could never work. In my own fanfic saga, *Spoiler Warning* I'm planning to have a situation like what you prescribed. Namely, the Unseelie and their alien pals the Zenthrans starting a massive world war, and guys like Mackovic, Rose, and Jadriel trying to capitalize on the action to also make trouble for the good guys. Congress will be among the war's first casualties, forcing the President to take charge of America. (The Prez will of course be Gary Nance from the movie Dave. His character had so much potential, and no real politician could be like him. I wanted to use Jack Ryan, but that's not possible. I'll absorb Dave into my saga real soon, just have to wait for Clinton to go out (he's already in the saga, as my readers know). Mitchell gets elected after him, ends up being even worse, the movie's plot alluded to on news reports that the clan watches, bing bang. <claps hands>) Should be neat to work out. He of course will have to be an ID4esque President in the war, he will be among those commanding an army of men, women, gargs, fay, mutants, Halflings, aliens, good dragons, reformed vamps (Angel, Blade, Charlie, etc.), and many more. I can hardly wait to write that part of the saga, and all that comes before. :) *spoilers at end*

Coyote: Thanks, looking forward to seeing the decal. BTW, Jadriel's human alias comes from his name, plus a character named Jade in the first Breath of Fire game. He was one of the main guys I based Jadriel on, and a very cool villain. Once again, I answer my own contest that apparently nobody was interested in. Oh well.

Heather: Thanks for posting more really neat pictures.

Steve Gooch: Found all Slater's books at a local Barnes and Noble. I shall read them very soon, I've already perused a few random paragraphs in each (I always do that before I buy novels, make sure they're worth it). I must say the books look neat. I can hardly wait to finish my current reading list and get onto them. Thanks again.

I also read your first chapter of your The Rock novelization. I like it, keep up the good work. Can't wait to see more (and hope you'll put links to it in here, of course. :)

Deuce: I too agree that you are very mature for your age.

Green Baron: Thanks for your great advice on the situation Kitainia and I are in with my mother. $ Thanks also for your aid in the RP. For continuity, let's just say Stephanie sent a copy of that tape she played for Tom in Kitainia's last RP bit, and a document containing all we know about Galante, to you and you sent it to Cardinal Ratzinger. Or she just sent it on to Ratzinger, though that wouldn't work as well. Kit and I look forward to helping the Scouts deal with Galante when the time comes. (First, we must take care of Marsh and Traveler. Then we'll go after the Bishop, don't know who's next.) $

Dumlao: Thanks for fixing the rules, you're welcome. I agree with you about Shakespeare in Love being a good movie.

JEB: Glad you like it. We'll try to keep your interest up. And that of our other fans, of course. :) I agree with you about Duran Duran's View to a Kill being good for Gargoyles. Some of their other songs could also do well on it.

Estra: I read your stories. Both are very well-done. Good plots and characters. Keep it up (and please, don't kill Elisa!).

Jason: Welcome to the CR, hope this isn't the last time you stop by. The ep you're thinking of is "A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time," one of my favorites.

Wilek: Is that crazy guy you mentioned the inspiration for Forfexx? :) I do that with people I know, too. Putting original characters very much like them into my fanfic, I mean. I've already mentioned Laura being based on an old high school flame of mine. Gary Parker, the Sparks, Weston, Seth, Rachel, Doc, and many others among my characters are also based on real people I know or have known. And of course occasionally one of my friends does a cameo in my fic saga, like Shap as Richie's roommate in "To Be Immortal." Also, like Greg, if I think someone has a cool name I try to work the name into my saga. I've known guys named Micheal Slovak (who became Jenner Slovak and Micheal Canmore in my fics), Justin Brumley (he's an upcoming character, the jerk Watcher to my semi-original Slayer character. We'll see him in three stories or so.), Zack Sheppard, Terry Ireland (I switched the first name to Johnny, it sounded better), Ciarah Tapley (Kara Ripley sounds better and the first name is easier to pronounce), and with many other cool names besides. All of their cool names I am using or will use in my stories. Just like Greg used Morgan Morgan. <grin> Just seeing if other fanfic writers do the same thing.

Durid: Welcome back to the CR. Remember to hurt Mr. DC terribly for your modem troubles. If you can't think of what to do, ask and we'll help. :) Kitainia looks forward to proofreading your stories.

SJ: Well, I'm not a fat 40year old balding man. Neither is my girlfriend. That's God's honest truth. As for Parasite Eve, I look forward to the movie. Really enjoyed the videogame of it. (Look for a cameo by a Parasite Eve character in my next fanfic.) As for Madonna, she may not be a good actress (except in Dick Tracy), but at least it ain't gonna be Pamela Lee doing Aya (Barbed Wire sucked so much I can't express it in words). I wonder how they'll handle the story's numerous plot holes, and who's gonna play Melissa/Eve. I also agree with you about women in selective service. They're not in war to have sex. Like Sean Connery said in The Rock, first you do what you have to. THEN you go home and celebrate by f^&*ing whoever you're in love with (doesn't matter if it's the prom queen, I'd take gals like Laney (in She's All That) or Kitainia over some prom queens any day!). Good advice.

Carolynn: Madonna's gonna be Aya. She's blonde, Aya's blonde, Aya's the star, blah de dah doo. But I do agree with you about Salli. Welcome back to the CR to you, too. Thanks for sharing that great Bronx story.

$ The RP Mad Scientist: Dr. Fred Edison sounds like a good name for him, but since he turned out to be okay (thanks, Zath, I was wondering, I never could finish the Maniac Mansion game), I don't think we can use him. How about his son Weird Ed instead? It would make more sense, given the scientist's personality. If the other RPers approve (and Zath doesn't tell us he also turned out to be an okay guy), Dr. 'Weird' Ed Edison will be the name. $

Okay, that's all for tonight. I have to get some sleep now. Hope Traveler posts soon. BTW, for those wondering about my fanfic, I have the next episode about 2/3 done. I just have to save Laura's life, resolve the major conflicts I haven't already, and make Zack immortal. Probably have it done and posted by next week, right in time for my birthday. I think everyone is going to be shocked by, and enjoy reading this one. :)

**BACK TO RP STUFF**

Doug and Kitainia continue down the hotel hall, searching for Traveler. "God," Kitainia says as they look in a meeting room and don't find him. "Where could he have gone?" "Hey, Doug!" Traveler's voice suddenly calls out. Doug and Kitainia look at each other, nod, and begin following the sound of it. "C'mere, Doug!" Traveler calls. "You too, Kitainia! I'm very close by!" The two head past several doors, getting closer to the voice's source. "Warm, very warm," Traveler says as they begin opening doors and looking through them. "No, not that door. Colder, colder. Oh, warm again, warm, very hot! Especially your outift, Kitainia! Whoo!" (Note-Kitainia is wearing an outfit similar to the one Faith wore in tonight's Buffy episode.) Kitainia rolls her eyes and opens a door, looking inside and seeing no Traveler. "That's the right door!" Traveler's voice laughs. "Don't close it! I'm just hiding in there, you have to find me! Heheheheheh!!" Doug sighs as the two of them step into the room. "This runaround really stinks." "I'm here, Doug," Traveler chuckles. "Hurry up and catch me!" Doug and Kitainia tear the room apart in their search, Traveler's voice continuing to tease and laugh at them. Finally Kitainia opens the room's Bible to find a tape recorder playing Traveler's voice. "Would he be able to do this?" she asks, grimacing as she shuts it off. "Yes," Doug says, "and it's just like Traveler, too. I wonder how many more of these things he's planted around the hotel." "We better tell the others," Kitainia says. "He might not even be here, we could be wasting our time." Doug nods. "Let's go." Taking the recorder with them, they head upstairs. To be continued.

**RP OVER FOR NOW**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:37:31 AM
IP: hil-c45-001-vty103.as.wcom.net

Women in the service- I pretty much agree with whats been said. If they want in on the tougher jobs, they should have the EXACT same training guys get. You don't become a soldier or fireman and then not expect to do certain bits of work. A rough test SHOULD be a rough test...

Buffy- Tonights episode is only the third one I've seen, so I was totally lost, but it was fun... Personally I kinda liked the first one I saw, the werewolf episode. (A werewolf episode?) But then, I'm a big werewolf fan...

Coyote and Ravyn- I gotta agree with Davy of the Monkees, you two do make a cute couple.

Gargoyle related songs- Ya know, my favorite song of all time, "Stand By Me" seems to apply here...
When the night... Has come... And the land is dark... And the Moon... Is the only... Light we'll see... Oh I won'tBe afraid... No I won't be afraid... Just as long as you stand... Stand by Me...

Zath- Did you say the Tick? SPOOOOOON! I loved that show, and I love the comic... But a Tick/Gargs crossover... That WOULD be interesting... Just out of curiosity, do any other Tick fans in here think that Dieflaudermous and American Maid may have been married once?

Spice Girls being garg fans good or bad- Well, a year ago when they were at the height of their popularity, it would have been a really good thing as it would have raised interest, but now, it really doesn't matter all that much.

Jason- You're thinking of "A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time"... The first episode with Robbins.

SJ- Maddonna in Parayte's Eve? ICK! Maybe some number of years ago she would have been okay but NO!!!, thats wrong nowadays...

Carolynn- Woah... I wanna go there!

Maniac Mansion- Egads... I'd forgotten all about that game... There were like, over a dozen possible endings... Hmm, time to pull out the old Nintendo!

**PARTY AFTERMATH!!!**

Most of the guests have left at this point, and the house seems to be nice and sturdy after Fonz tapped it in the right spot. Some of the last guests are the Monkees,(Click!) who are just now preparing to leave in their Monkee-mobile... Except Davy seems to be missing... A loud BOOM resounds throughout the countryside as the mansion goes up in flames.
Davy runs away from the demolition plunger, into the Monkee-mobile, and they high tail it outta there.
"What did you do that for Davy?"
"The show had to end with a big finale."
"Thats what the giant climactic fight was for yesterday..."
"Oops."

Jim looks at his ruined mansion and slaps his forehead. "Oh no, not again!" Suddenly, a large sperm whale and a bowl of petunias fall from the sky and land on the mansion, the petunias thinking exactly the same thing as Jim.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:37:26 AM
IP: spider-te052.proxy.aol.com

I hope that the server fr this site doesn't have the
Year 2000 Bug.
Brian Thietje - [thietje@aol.com]
Naches, WA, U.S.A.
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:25:56 AM
IP: spider-pa051.proxy.aol.com

<FS, LM, PG, Father, and friends gather at a small ceremony for a dear friend of the family.>
"We gather here to commit our dear friend Molly back to the Earth from which she came.
"Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust."

Travel well throughout time, Molly. You will be dearly missed.
Fire Storm, Lady Mystic, Puppy Girl, Father, and friends
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:23:30 AM
IP: 209.117.148.166

**RP!**

[The black shuttle containing most of Wilek's team and the TIE Scimitar contining SJ and Frankie emerge from hyperspace near the Dark Star. Jake: "This is Black Shuttle Omega 1 and TIE Scimitar--oh, whatever SJ calls it--requesting landing clearance from Dark Star docking control. Over." "This is the Dark Star. Who is this?" Wilek: "Um, that was Jake Laughton, our pilot. In case you forgot, we left to attend Jim's party." Dark Star traffic control tech: "Um...wait a minute."

In the Dark Star's command center... Agent Rho: "Commander, we're recieving a call from...from you." Wilek?: "What the...those must be Thailog's evil clones of us. Blow them out of the sky!" Rho: "But..." Wilek?: "Didn't you hear me, idiot? Kill them or you'll be executed for mutiny!"]

**PAUSE RP!**

Estra> <<i killed Ginger Spice. they're just covering it up. no further comment.>> [Wilek applauds.] <<interesting, if not plausable crossovers>> They weren't plausible? Hm...I went to a lot of trouble figuring out how to do those...

Steve> <<Actually, no. Switch magic and technology to get Clark's original>> Wow; I looked at it and assumed it was the original quote. Sometimes I jump to conclusions like that. :}

Taleweaver> <<Someone wanted to see the Festival of Hathor. No way you I could have made that PG 13. The Egyptians had parties that could put Roman revels to shame.>> I wonder if Christine could draw any inspiration from this... <G>

Gentlemen> I try to be as polite as possible, but I'm capable of kicking serious tail if I'm forced to. (Being a gargoyle, that kinda goes without saying. :) )

Ravyn> <<But forget that...how about Ebert & our old friend Jackal? ;)>> It would be the last episode; Ebert would be a snack. <g>

Dumlao X> <<But I guess that's what we're here for. To break tradition and such :)>> Which reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "Nature is what we are put on this planet to rise above".

Coyote> <<If you ever find those punks and need help, feel free to call on me.>> Thanks much for the offer, but fortunately he escaped--er, graduated--last April, so everything's kewl. :)

JEB> It's no big deal; mistakes happen. I've made a few like that myself (like my misinterpretation of Steve's quote). :)

Deuce> <<when I finally snap and go psycho, killing everybody>> You too? I have similar plans myself...

MADONNA IN THE PARASITE EVE MOVIE?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I haven't played PE, but I have a demo video of it and it looks extremely kewl. If she ruins PE's good name...<grr>

Zath> MAN what a bad day. Ack. Glad you're feeling better though. And it's a good thing the +/% problem's been fixed. ^_^ The CR's a wonderful place to escape from the great dark pit of putridity known as RL, isn't it. <g>

**RESUME RP!**

[Rho: "There's something odd about you--" Wilek?: "Fool!" 'Wilek' shoves Agent Rho out of the way and commands the computer to destroy the team's ships. Wilek?: "Security, take Agent Rho into custody for eventual termination." The guards hesitate. "What...?! DID YOU HEAR ME?! KILL HIM! <grr> Do I have to do every blasted thing myself?! MIRIAM! Your lightsaber please..."

Jake: "OH SHOOT!" Jake begins evasive maneuvers; not easy in a shuttle that simply wasn't designed for combat. Wilek: "What the <censored> do they think they're doing?!" Miriam: "There is only one reasonable explanation: the Dark Star has apparently been infiltrated." Wilek: "Oh man...not again..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:19:21 AM
IP: tnt-2-16-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Thanks to everyone who liked my poem. It really makes me feel better after such a rotten 24 hours.

**BEGIN RANT ABOUT ZATH'S DAY**

*this rant has been deleted to maintain the PG-13 rating of the room*
(but for those who want to know here's the summary: I was almost late for school, all my teachers were really cranky all day long, I now owe one teacher $12 for knocking over a graduated cylinder, I got stuck working in the lab untol nearly 5pm, my lab partner spilled potassium permanganate on my hand, when I finally got out of school my car died in the middle of the street even though it just had $400+ worth of work done on it less than 2 weeks ago, and I found out my #^(%ing $#!%head of a former guidance counselor didn't bother mailing a bunch of important stuff to a college I was applying to, so the papers are now over a month late.)

**END RANT** (okay, that was more of a long winded whining session, but I don't care.)

Wilek> If I recall correctly, in Maniac Mansion, Fred was evil because he was being controlled by the purple meteor or whatever it was. In the sequel, Day of the Tentacle, Fred was just cranky and in need of a good cup of coffee (although he did manage to make a working time machine out a port-o-potty). <<Man I wish I could have seen that>> The cannons were kind of cheesy looking, but the play was great. However, I would hate to be the person who had to clean up all the stage blood between shows.

SOROW> Thank you very much. My inspiration? In this case, because it was an assignment, I just messed around with lines until I found a couple that went together reasonably well, and then I wrote the rest to fit what I already had. When something actually "inspires" me, it's usually some stupid rhyme that pops into my head. I once did one that started "Taco, taco, oozing goo, I wanted pizza, but you'll do". Needless to say, this method produces poetry of varying quality from what was in my last post to trash that, if I had been smart, I would have ignored it and hoped it went away rather than wasting the effort to type it (the aforementioned taco poem falls into this last category).

Robby> You get to skip school during TAAS?!? NO FAIR!!! We just got all of our classrooms rearranged so all my teachers were grouchier than usual today because they had move stuff. Personally, the level of questions the TAAS has seems more fit for determining whether or not someone can get out of junior high rather than whether or not someone is ready to graduate. I took it last year (because it was my first year in TX, not because I failed it in 10th grade like all my teachers assumed I did when I told them I was going to be out 3 days) and the math section had something like three multiplication problems, two division problems, and the rest were addition and subtraction. The really sad part is that a large percentage of people in my school fail it the first time around.

Deuce> If the government keeps psych profiles of everyone, they probably think I'm going to grow up to be one of those people who wander the streets, talking to people using a scok puppet as a third party go between.

SJ> <<Wear a dress or sumthin'!>> But they're so drafty... Will a scrunchie be good enough?

Obligatory bit of stuff that's actually related to Gargoyles.> Has anyone written a Gargoyles/Tick crossover? For some reason I had this weird vision of Avalon sending Goliath and friends to The City, where they see Arthur flying overhead and mistake him for a gargoyle. They go to introduce themselves, but he screams and accidentally flies into a building. Die Flaudermaus (sp?) would probably show up sooner and hit on Elisa and/or Angela, and American Maid and Goliath would both hit him at the same time.

I guess that's it for now. I was going to have a gory Mr. DC death, but I'll save it for later. Bye all.
Zath
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:52:53 PM
IP: ns13-03.viptx.net

**LAST PARTY RP!**

Selwyn and Mandi are standing amid the exodus, watching people crowd into their vehicles. Of course, neither of them really used a vehicle to get here.

Mandi turns to Selwyn. "Any ideas?"

<"I think we'll have to call a cab, unless you want to ride with him."> Selwyn points over to where Dogbert is revving up an SUV made from used Borg parts and bits and pieces that look suspiciously like parts from the Dark Star. <"Hey, doesn't that look like--">

"Don't even say it."

Suddenly, a black Jeep Cherokee swerves into the parking lot, narrowly missing collisions several times before screeching to a halt in front of Mandi and Selwyn. Harrington is gagged and tied onto the bike rack, covered in paint. Charisse leans out the driver side window. <"Need a ride?">

"Where did you get this?"

Andrea sticks her head out. <"We couldn't take Dave's car. Not with its track record.">

<"HEY!"> Dave hops out of the back seat. <"I heard that! It's not my fault she's jinxed! And I'm driving!">

Mandi blinks. "Um, where exactly are you headed with that?" She points to the trussed-up teen writhing uselessly.

Charisse ignores Dave's comment about her driving. <"Well, we're dropping him off somewhere in the middle of DC.">

<"Then we're going to Disneyland!"> Andrea chimes in.

Dave elbows his way over to the driver's side. <"All right, get out of the car!">

**PAUSE RP!**

$About the car--twice in a row when Dave was driving us someplace, the engine needed to be jumped. Happened two times in the same week, both with me, he now says I'm cursed.$

**BUFFY SPOILERS**

Saw it on time for once, loved it. Especially Willow's attempt to be Vampire Willow. I'll go through my tape for good lines--there were a ton! My roommate does not watch Buffy, had NO CLUE what was going on, but even she cracked up at Willow's observations of her "bad side". I told her that she has "Guiding Light", I have this. :)

I really want to smack Faith. If she's not faking it, that is. She's letting the Mayor literally buy her out. Pity, because I liked her there for a while. Would have liked to see her reaction to Vamp Willow, though. Heh.

**END SPOILERS**

Carolynn> That's so cool! And ugh, I've got to cut this short. Bleah. (It's snowing in Frederick! Yay! Please let Satire be cancelled tomorrow...)

**RESUME LAST RP!**

Dave has finally gotten Charisse out from behind the wheel after pointing out the skid marks and burnt rubber. Mandi looks at Selwyn. "Want to come?"

<"I don't have anything better to do..."> He glances up at Harrington. <"And I've got a ton of paintball stuff back home.">

Dave, Charisse, and Andrea yell, <"GET IN!">

They pile into the Jeep, with Dave taking the wheel, and the Jeep makes its way out of the parking lot/hangar more slowly this time, without endangering any lives.

As the Jeep turns onto the highway, people nearby can hear the exclamation, "Blue spandex?!?"

**END RP!**

**BOB KIWI IS STILL LINKED! CLICK ON MY NAME!**
Mandi Ohlin
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:38:55 PM
IP: 144.175.17.229

HI EVERYBODY!!!!
As you've probably guessed, I'm on a hyper like you would not believe. The reason: O-week. (for those who don't know, O-week is orientation week, where all the new little students (like me) get to run around the university like maniacs, sign up to the clubs and societies and gleefully take anything the aforementioned groups hand over. I swear, I'm having a really hard time sticking to my self-imposed 'no more than three clubs/societies' rule.)
I'm sure reality will set in with a vengance when Monday comes around and I start classes, but until then, I'm gonna have so much fun it should be illegal. Of course, my posts are probably going to veeeery strange for the next couple of days..... okay, more strange than usual. :)

Robby> >Cleared before we could compete. Darn.< There's always next week. >:)

Steve Gooch> Thank you for the crash course in Nuclear weapons. Now if I could just get my hands on some plutonium...... :)

Gargy songs> There's this song on the radio at the moment, and I swear to god, it could have been written for Elisa and Goliath. The first verse goes something like:
"No matter what they tell us
No matter what they do
No matter what they teach us
What we believe is true.

No matter how they judge us
However they attack
No matter where they take us
We'll find our own way back

I can't deny what I believe
I can't be what I'm not
I know this love's forever
that's all that matters now, no matter what."

There's more, but I can't remember it now. Perhaps we have another group of secrect garg fans? (Some all-boy band sing it, but I've forgotten what they're called.)

Demona Tania> >[shrieks, gets a mace] You will pay... [growls, hits the channel with the mace] Oh, and before I forget...WHY DIDN'T YOU AIR TGC!?!?!?!?! [hits the channel with the mace, not willing to stop]< *LOL* I like your style!!

Zath> great poem. *sighs, turns away and screams to the sky - why is everyone so talented here!?! You are killing my ego, people!?!* (Just kidding. I warned you I was in a weird mood.)
>It now resides in the ICU of some hospital< Ah, so that's what happened to the collective sanity of the CR! I wondered about that. For about two seconds. :)

Blue> >Yes, I received your email< Phew! I'm glad somebody did. If my 'dis-destruction' creativity demon was worn out, I'd have killed him again.
Which reminds me...
Durid> Did you get the proofing?!?!

Selenit> I agree with you about identities on the 'net. In cyberspace, there are no ages, sexes or nationalities, no religions or educational levels. We're just words in the darkness, and for once, what we think and feel are unfettered by how we look. I think that's why I like the 'net so much.

Hi Jason.

Wilek> Do me a favour, would you? Give your friend a hug from me. And then gut those jerks. :) (I'm kidding about the second bit, but utterly serious about the first.)

Oh, what's the URL for the CR archive? This might have been answered, but I missed a bit of the CR after I asked when it went down.
And while I'm on the subject, since last week's CR is AWOL (I'm gonna hunt Dis down and hurt him,) and I was one of the last people to post, I'll put in my last post. (but without the Dis destruction and the RP) If you've already read it, skip the rest of my post. (and sorry if it bugs you)
WARNING! PREVIOUS POST FOLLOWS
Kitania> *winces* Sorry Doug's mum didn't like you much. I like your attitude towards the whole thing - I'm glad you also think the only people who's opinions matter are you and Doug. WOA> Give it time. Maybe if you just keep acting exactly the same, she'll realise how wrong she was about you. Either way, good luck to the both of you. :)

Kaioto> >Some guy is born in a particular place to a particular family and all of the sudden he is ~ the one ~ and destiny goes out of its way to lend instant credibility to his claim?< I like Terry Pratchet's take on this. In his discworld books, the guy finds out he's the king (at least, I think he does)... and doesn't care. Without any fanfare or 'do-I-deny-my-destiny?-BS' he just keeps doing what he always did, being a cop.

Wavelength> My condolences on your break-up.

Jewel> Congratulations! Glad your interview went well - hoping you get the job!

Demona Tania> the closest I've ever come to unconsciousness is when I was under anastetic (sp) for my wisdom teeth. It was.... blank. Seriously, it was like being asleep without dreams. One second, I was awake, then I was waking up with a sore mouth. I've never actually been _knocked_ unconscious before. Kinda glad I haven't. :)

Matt> >Hmm this makes a change, seeing something first instead of having to avoid talk of the X-files, DS9 and Buffy that I won't see for months :)< Boy, _that_ sounds familiar! :)

Dumloa> re: cop troubles. My condolences. Good luck in court.

Coyote> Get well soon!

Robby> You know, you shouldn't lie about your drawings like that. Here I was, thinking I'd see a picture that made mine look good by comparison, but instead I see this FANTASTIC drawing. It's cruel, I tell ya! :)
Seriously, you are a great artist, and, IMO, those eleven years have NOT been wasted.

Welcome back Dark Angel

SOROW> *Wipes tears from eyes and blows loudly into a kleenex.* Oh, that poem was beautiful! Well done!

Warning labels> My personal favourite is the one they put on irons - Do not iron clothes on body.

Jewel> Man, sounds like Bryn Mawr could rival Jim Noying for wild parties. Fuuuunnnn. :)

Argent> Ooohh! Congrats on your new family member!

Gabriel and Deuce> More great poems! Kewl!

Hi Peter! *waves*

Tim> Man, what a bummer! Your sister must be ready to kill your dad! Um, call me stupid, but WHY would he clean a car with gasoline in the first place?

Welcome LeXington!

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:35:16 PM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au

Blue Caeru< Come to my high school, and you'd just see how right Demona's take on human males is. You can't distinguish the 18 year old seniors from the 14 year old freshman :) what language did you used to speak besides English? Parlez-vous francais, peut-etre?
Carolynn
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:31:11 PM
IP: spider-wi051.proxy.aol.com

<<GOOD NEWS: Looks like there will be a movie made based on hit anime
book/video game "Parasite Eve." The stupendously BAD NEWS: Madonna's
gonna be the star. Even worse is, she owns the rights. If she didn't, we
could all pray that she drops the role, but with this much at stake for
her....God, that's depressing to me. >>

SEVARIUS JR.< NOO!! Her music isn't that bad, but a Parasite Eve with a big space missing between her two front teeth doesn't strike me as intimidating. Plus, after seeing her in "Frozen", she doesn't look very villainess material.

Though, for Aya, my votes for Salli Richardson :)
Carolynn
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:24:09 PM
IP: spider-wi051.proxy.aol.com

Hey, when in Rome ... :)

Garg songs

"Iris" by the GooGoo dolls ("And I don't want the world to see me ... cuz I don't think that they'd understand ... when everything's meant to be broken ... I just don't want to go home right now ...)

Hmm ... more I think of it, this would be perfect for Lex.

"A Thousand Words" by Savage Garden ("You could ressurect a thousand words to deceive me more and more, a thousand words will give the reason why I don't need you anymore...)

"I'm Afraid of Americans" (replace with "Americans" with "Humans in General", and we'd hit this right on the head)


We don't have any big pointless tests in New Jersey (then again, all tests are pointless to me, but that's not the point :) ). They started having them a year or two ago, but just for kindergardners, to see whether or not they were sane (DEUCE< Hey! They're having thinly-veiled psychology tests here, too! It's a conspiracy! Kill them all! Ahahahahaa-*stops* I forgot about my lack of inner dialogue... you all didn't hear that, okay?)

Speaking of which, Deuce, I was surprised to hear you're 14, too. I was expecting something like an 18-year-old. Girls dig mature guys, so keep it up ;P

Well, THIS will cheer ya up a bit, Tas (and everybody else)...

A representative came to my art class today from the Art Institute of Philadelphia and showed us a video of some of the computer animation the students had put together using their basic training. She explained (real nice lady, named Wendy. Got the school's web addy from her, and she's sending me info. I'm planning on attending :) ) anyway, she explained that before the students created their OWN characters, they used others just for practice.

There were a few short numbers the students had created, with characters like Earthworm Jim dodging through underground tunnels with his laser gun drawn, and an Alien chasing a little gray alien with buggy eyes. Y'know, trademark stuff.

But the coolest one of all was this flick set at night. It lasted only ten seconds (it WAS a promotional vid, after all), but it was AWESOME. The dark clouds peeled back form the sky to show a full moon, and suddenly a pair of brilliant white eyes snapped open in the darkness, and this thing bared its teeth and growled. Then I saw this thing loping off towards a warehouse. It was BRONX...

Wendy even admitted it. She said they use the cartoon sometimes in the classroom because it has a lot of good examples of animation, and some of the students liked it. PLUS, it was GREAT. If I hadn't known any better, I'd have sworn it was real instead of computer animation. If art students at a two year school can do this, I can't wait if a movie comes out (they'd better have Bronx)...

And the university in Philly can't be the only place with fans besides us, here. The show's got hope yet.

Just thought this was a cool thing to tell :)

*taking JEB's lead* Toodles! Happy creating!
Carolynn
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:17:01 PM
IP: spider-wi051.proxy.aol.com

***BUFFY SPOILERS****
I must say, this episode is perhaps my favorite. Of ALL time! I mean, Vampire Willow's back....she's real, not an illusion....Oh man, this was good!
I can't even begin to remember all the quotables and great lines that Willow had. This is what we need! More episodes focusing on Alyson Hannigan!
I'll leave with this thought......
Willow: "She's me? Gee, I'm so evil....and skanky....and I think I'm a little big gay too!"
****END BUFFY SPOILERS****

Gender Issue: I don't even try anymore. I mean, usually I can pick them out....but Zath, you had me fooled. Act more feminine next time! Wear a dress or sumthin'! Sheesh, whatta ya want us men to do, embarass ourselves?
Of course, who knows, everyone in here but me could be 40 yr. old lonely, hairy, fat-behinded balding men. :-p

Hollywood stuff!: Whoo, and lots of it! First off....
1. Good and bad news X-Files fans. Looks like *next* season will be the show's last (please God, no more Mulder/Scully romance episodes for a while). That's the bad news--the good news is that there *will* be at least one more movie.
2. GOOD NEWS: Looks like there will be a movie made based on hit anime book/video game "Parasite Eve." The stupendously BAD NEWS: Madonna's gonna be the star. Even worse is, she owns the rights. If she didn't, we could all pray that she drops the role, but with this much at stake for her....God, that's depressing to me.
3. Xena: Lucy Lawless has officially acknowledged and thanked her lesbian fans. Yes, Lucy, we all love you! Check your local lesbian bar, I think they routinely have "Xena" nights.

Dumlao: I'm just too damn much of a humanist. Which conflicts, cause I'm also getting a minor in psychology....B.F.Skinner is not my most favorite of persons.

Durid: Hey, been a little while! Welcome back!

Ravyn: Hmm....Ebert & Jackal? Naw, it'd never get past the censors. Well....maybe on cable.....;)

Women in Service: I don't have much of a problem. But I do agree with the argument that women are weaker than men (physically, that is). I mean, every female soldier can't be Xena. But it they're able (which should be the requisite for all soldiers), I don't have a problem with them serving our country. I DO have a problem with them getting pregnant midway through their service. Hey, this go es to all soldiers, male and female: Keep it in your pants! You're trained to kill, not have kids during battle! Wait till after your service is done to have a family! AND WHAT IS THAT JELLY DOUGHNUT DOING IN YOUR FOOT LOCKER PRIVATE PYLE???
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:06:09 PM
IP: 207-172-119-2.s2.tnt2.brd.erols.com

YES! Modem problems fixed, for awhile anyway. Now I have printer problems... Maybe I should just get a new computer? Oh well, I'm back, just need to polish up my fanfictin story a little, destroy my seemingly useless 56K modem, and read thourgh my 250+emails (no exgration). It's good to be back!

****RP exit warning****

"Pull!" A modem goes flying across the field. "Tulumnious Bentie!" A lightning bolt destroys the modem. "Ah, that felt good" Durid leaves.

***End RP exit***
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:00:36 PM
IP: ydialup6.mpls.uswest.net

Jeb> Is indeed we are. (smiles faintly) I am glad I am not only one
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:36:10 PM
IP: dt043ndc.san.rr.com

Scary tests> The Alberta government gives Grades 3, 6, 9, and 12 these end-of-year exams that are SO easy, they're basically thinly veiled psychiatric examinations. I just KNOW the government has a psych profile on me somewhere that they'll use when I finally snap and go psycho, killing everybody and— oh wait, that wasn't supposed to come out loud. >:-)
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:19:44 PM
IP: pppa123.connect.ab.ca

Wilek> Ack. Insert foot into mouth. I'd failed to notice that you said he was a friend, only that he'd "end up killing himself and *gladly* taking others with him if he ever ended up in military service". I also didn't know the fellow was a good person. Terribly sorry about that statement. :( I guess I should've read more carefully. :/
JEB
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:13:04 PM
IP: 212-73-153.ipt.aol.com

**RP!!**

**The screen lights up to reveal ... Coyote and Ravyn, arm-in-arm, leaving the mansion and heading back over to their vehicles. The Gearhead, Jason, Buick, and the assembled escaped circus freaks are sitting at the tank, still in many shades of pink, red and purple.**

How do we look?

<"We're ready when you are, boss.">

Great. All those little modifications our friend Tank Girl put in have been removed, right?

<"Everything but the paint job ... it's kinda grown on me.">

**groans** Yeah ... like a fungus. **turns to Ravyn** Whenever you're ready, Rav.

**Ravyn whistles, which prompts her convertible Charlotte to start up and pull up alongside the couple.**

**PAUSE RP!!**

"Kamehameha": This is *indeed* the name of a Hawaiian king. Five of them, to be precise, Kamehameha I through V. Kamehameha I is credited with uniting the Hawaiian Islands as one nation.

SJ: Rather ... interesting thing with Ebert and Traveler.
Why did I just *know* that a movie with Gwyneth Paltrow naked would wind up as one of your favorites? :)

Wilek: Sadly, no, Samson is not feeling any effects from the spell cast by Puck, Alex, Lina, Beth and Coyote. Their spell was concentrated solely on Solomon.

TAAS: Sounds similar to a test given in Michigan called the MEAP. In our case, the MEAP is given once in junior high (6th grade) and once in high school (sophomores). And yes, just like it's been implied that the TAAS does, the MEAP bites. Hard.

Green Baron: Yeah, I'm still looking. Ya interested? Only requirements is that you won't mind a room party on the first night and can handle a roomie who sleeps hooked up to an air compressor. :)

Ravyn: Yep, seems that way in most fic, so why should min be any different? ;)
BTW ... green? Nice color ... my favorite, to be specific. :)

DumlaoX: Yeah, I recall sending a couple of song ideas to that page of yours ... wasn't it hooked up with the West Coast Clan or something?

Jason: Welcome to the funny farm ... be sure to check your sanity at the door. Our friend Deuce will take care of that for ya, won't you, Deuce?

And while I'm talkin' to Deuce: Yes, I find you *much* more mature than most 14-year olds. Had you not shown me a picture of yourself, I would have thouht you to be somewhere in your 20's, considering your keen viewpoints on US politics.

Wilek: If you ever find those punks and need help, feel free to call on me. I can certainly understand how your friend feels. I've been through that brand of hell ... been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

**RESUME RP!!**

Jimmie! Come on over!

**Jimmie, the Borgified seal boy, zips his way over to Coyote, as Charlotte pulls up. Coyote crouches down to Jimmie's eye level.**

Jimmie ... we've decided the next thing we're going to do is get you back to your family.

<"Really, Mr. Coyote?">

Yeah. We're all going. We're all going to take you back to your families, if at all possible.

**Jimmie hugs Coyote, then jumps into the back seat of Charlotte. Ravyn hops into the driver's seat, while Coyote gets in the passenger side. Coyote pulls out his handheld radio.**

Ready to roll, guys?

<"Ready, boss.">

Then ...

**Suddenly Davy from the Monkees passes by the convertible. He's got a wild-eyed look in his eyes, holding a demolition plunger.**

<"Hmm ... you two make a cute couple.">

**Davy starts laughing, then moves on. Coyote and Ravyn look at each other, shrug their shoulders, then yell in unison:**

ARIZONA, HERE WE COME!

**... as the screen winks off.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:02:50 PM
IP: modem83.i-is.com

JEB> <<If this guy was that unbalanced, unless he can fake sanity well, he'd never get into the military.>> The thing is, he's not unbalanced *at* *all* unless he's in a situation where his life is at stake, and he sees military service as such a situation (and I think he's correct). He's perfectly sane and rather bright, he's just not mentally equipped for the physical and psychological torment involved in being in the military (it would be torment for *him* anyhow; he's not all that tough and he knows it). He's no nutcase (no more than we are anyhow <g>), but that kind of stress and pain would turn him into one. I think I'd be the same way in his position. He's suited more for intellectual stuff than fighting. (Which may explain why he was almost thrown down a stairwell by the uncultured puke chunks in his high school despite having almost straight-A grades; I've forgotten how many times I've wanted to go to his school and tear someone apart after hearing about some of the things that happen to him.)

And I'm not telling him what you said; he has few enough friends as it is. >:|

<looks at what he wrote> Yikes...sorry for the vent; it's just that this kid's been through so much already and my gargoyles-protect instinct always kicks in where he's concerned. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I think I'd better drop this; it's getting weird.

Real post later. Ciao all! :}
Wilek
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 09:48:58 PM
IP: tnt-3-227-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Oh, brother. I have this HUGE Religion project due tomorrow, and I'm just starting now. :-P Such is the way I do things.

I got a haircut yesterday — VERY short, and spiked. When I get my learner's permit (this weekend, I hope), I'll scan it for y'all.

Ravyn> ["I think you act *much* too mature for most 14-year olds."] *big grin* Thanks.

JEB> That Duran Duran song is PERFECT for TD. I've never heard it before, tho' I bet I have it on a record somewhere. :-)

** leaves, to start his homework **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 09:09:58 PM
IP: pppa79.connect.ab.ca

HI
I hope some could help me. I love the Gargoyles and watch many of the shows. One show had the best quote in the world. All I remember is the Hudson was maybe blinded (or hurt) while on a beach and he meet up a other blind man who could read brail (is that spelled right?). The man said a line like....books are windows to our past and mirrors to our future. If anyone knows which episode that was or even the right lines please email me. Thanks, Jason
Jason Baker - [BigBake776@aol.com]
Columbus, Oh
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 08:44:57 PM
IP: 204-84-193.ipt.aol.com

Some room renovation has been complete. Mostly links to new but unfinished rooms. Gotta finish them shortly.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 08:13:21 PM
IP: chs-228-04.oac-commons.ucla.edu

**Ducks in real quick**

Garg Songs: Hey! I can believe no one threw this one in yet, so I'm pouncing before I really post.

Eagle Eye Cherry: 'Save Tonight' ('Save tonight/ And fight the break of dawn/ 'Cause tommorrow/ Tommorrow I'll be gone.')
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:45:47 PM
IP: 141.133.134.81

Hey! :)

X-Files> *Very Minor Spoilers* Not a very spectacular ep. Sort of a weird hybrid of the quirky eps from early in the season with the monster-of-the-week ones from the first season, and the result was something mediocre. I hope all the post-conspiracy eps aren't like this. <:) *End Very Minor Spoilers*

Gentlemen> I'd like to consider myself one. We're a dying breed, I believe. You should have seen the weird looks I got in Manhattan when I held doors for people and said 'excuse me'...

RP> I must say, I'm not interested in joining this, but it sure is interesting reading. :)

Spice Girls> Would it be good or bad if they were Gargoyles supporters? <:)

5 Faves> This a poll?

Any 5 Fave Movies> The Man In The Iron Mask
Transformers: The Movie
Men In Black
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Army Of Darkness

Any 5 Fave Books> _Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Out Of The Madhouse_
_Parallelities_ by Alan Dean Foster
_The Time Machine_ by H.G. Wells
_Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium_, Vol. 1
_The Dark Half_ by Stephen King

Women in Selective Service> I think my mom said this one best- (inexact quote) "If my sons have to go to some foreign country and possibly get killed, so should someone else's daughter." And I agree. But I also don't think our society's mature enough to approach such an idea yet. So, in the end, say we shouldn't- for now.

Siskel's Death> A pity, it is. Don't have much more thought on it- I didn't know the guy very well. <:)

Zath> Like the poem! :)

Shakespeare In Love> I saw this movie because Prince of Egypt was cancelled, two Saturdays ago. It was actually pretty good. :)

Wilek> If this guy was that unbalanced, unless he can fake sanity well, he'd never get into the military.

Songs That Remind Me of Gargoyles:
"Time Machine" by Black Sabbath
Relates to TimeDancer. :)

"A View To A Kill" by Duran Duran
(Lyrics: "Dance into the fire... that fatal kiss is all we need... dance into the fire... to fatal sounds of broken dreams...")
Also relates to TimeDancer. :)

"Mari-Mac" by Great Big Sea (reminds me of a great scene in one of Dylan Blacquiere's fics... :).

Almost anything by Loreena McKennit reminds me of Gargoyles. :)

Oddly, the Sheryl Crow song "Everyday Is A Winding Road" reminds me of Gargoyles, too... go fig. o_O

SOROW> Great! Thanks! :)

Toodles. :)
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:37:24 PM
IP: 211-185-78.ipt.aol.com

**Blue and green flames swirl, openening Estra's gateway. She steps through**

Well, once again, on Lethe, good job. The story was a little confoosling in the beginning, but it really shaped up. I _loved_ the illustrations.

Selanit: have you read my story yet? aren't you going to e-mail me with your critical comments and suggestions? ;) i rather enjoy it.

Wilek: read your stories. they were, as a former friend of mine might have put it, "Verrrrrrry inteeerrrrrresting." interesting, if not plausable crossovers, and i thought the second one was pretty funny, too. and here i thought i was the only one wondering what Owen would look like in a mini-skirt! *lol* jk! so, what are we going to do tomorrow night, Brain?

Kylynna: Knighto Sabres! San-cho! (jo? must go back and watch wierd sub-titled anime in order to under stand...)

and, once again GO READ MY FANFICTION!!!!! PUH-LEEZE!

i might post later tonight if i can think of something important to say.

TTFN
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Nowhere but where I stand
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:29:05 PM
IP: spider-wa011.proxy.aol.com

Kyryn> *claps*
(Pathatic note, I know)
LeXington - [end_of_never@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:18:54 PM
IP: host106.spis.net

I'm just going to reply to people who talked to me, no words of wisdom today. * loud cheer* Hey! Who's the one who rules your world? *the cheers turn to boos* That's better( as long as your not booing at me). Now, on to my insane ramblings:
Wilek Nereus>I am insane! *evil, chilling laugh*
Robby> I already have
Sevarius Jr.>*raises his cyborg arm* Try it (joking, joking, people).
Zath> Your poem reminds me of a song Demona Wyvern and I wrote, I had it written down, but with my organization, who knows where it is?

P.S. I might post a poem of mine later, but who knows?
LeXington - [end_of_never@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:17:03 PM
IP: host106.spis.net

**Kyryn appears**

Sylvia> No problem. As DumlaoX says, anyone can use any pic except his. I just noticed that the colors were similiar too. And, since I like the Peach, I figured that I'd switch pics.

Zath> As a matter of fact I have read most of the Xanth books, but I wasn't particularly thinking of the technicolor hailstones when I made that post. *shrug* I guess the subconscious had need to make its presence felt. Occasionally the brain comes up with odd bits and pieces. My sci-fi and fantasy collection is currently over a thousand books and Creator knows how many others I've read over 25 some-odd years.

Women in the Selective Service> Personally, I've never seen a problem with this.(side note: I am a woman)

**MINOR RANT**

My only problem is that I feel that women shouldn't be in the active military, fire dept., police, etc. unless they can pass the physical tests required. I get mad when I see women whining that the requirements to be a firefighter, for example, should be eased up. Pardon me! When someone's life depends on the fact that you can grab, carry, and walk/run with a two-hundred odd pound dead weight over your shoulder, there is no way in the world that that requirement should be eased up. The same applies to people who volunteer for the military and are likely to be in frontline conditions. Rules that are there for safety and good reasons should not be circumvented.

***END MINOR RANT***

Sorry, that's one of my pet peeves.

Selanit> Loved the scene!

Illuminati.com> Hmm! Steve Jackson! Hmm! Our own Christine Morgan has ties to Steve Jackson Games. Maybe Christine is secretly an illuminatus....? j/k *grin*

Heather> Cute pics!

SOROW> Good luck! It should be fairly easy. I remember California had a similiar test when I was in school.

Later All,

**Kyryn disappears**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 07:03:35 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

DEMONA TAINA-- That news about Dean Devlin writing the script for the Gargoyles movie is old news. At this point, the writer for Con Air is doing the script.

SHAKESPHEARE IN LOVE-- Wonderful film, both as a date film and a film you wanna see with friends. Great actors and a great story. Alison & I both loved it.

DOUG-- Thanx for the corrections to the rules. I have the corrections done and should put them up tonight. Right now I'm doing a little site fixing and prep work for the upcoming additions.

SEVARIUS JR-- About the sociologist thing. Yeah, I know about that. We are kinda borg-ish in a way. But I guess that's what we're here for. To break tradition and such :)

GARGOYLES SONGS-- Hell, I had a site with listings of what songs fans thought were good for Gargoyles and the fanfics. If I could find it, I'll post the addy here. That way someone with more free time can take over the maintenance of this list on their own server.

ALISON'S SITE-- I know she should announce this but what the hell :P

As of this morning, Alison Wilgus's new site is open. There's still some sections that need doing but for the most part it is browsable by the public. Hit my name to get there :)

THERESA-- Hmmm. Good question. I'll check the page and find out for you.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:59:21 PM
IP: chs-228-04.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Greetings. I have been re-reading the Pendragon series season one. I have checked both the text and the regular sites. There is suppossed to be a picture of Medb but I'm only getting the box on both sites. Is it my webtv or is the picture link broken?

Thanks

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:51:01 PM
IP: proxy-323.public.rwc.webtv.net

Ack! Two purple posts in a row!! It's a purple overload!!!!! (just kidding! I'm on a happy high right now...) ;)

Green Baron> A Southpaw is someone who's left-handed.

Oh, yeah, sorry for the 2x post. Later.
Ravyn
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:42:25 PM
IP: svm-ts3-19.c2i2.com

**TGS EP SPOILERS!**
I loved the new story! The great art by CrzyDemona made it even better! It was very interesting to see Demona actually being *nice* for a change. It really hit me that she had changed when she gave some money to the street musician. *That* is kinda hard to imagine. It was neat to see Coldstone & Coldfire again, and I'm glad you mentioned something about Dr. Goldblum. I haven't heard much from that guy in a while. ;) And I loved the Goliath and Elisa scenes too. ;)

Also, I have to wonder if that little scene with Matt Bluestone was a planned inside joke or something. After all, he said he "got stuck behind a manure truck." Is that maybe a reference to Tom Wilson's time as Biff in the Back to the Future movies? If it's not, well, that's what I immediately thought of when I read that, anyway. :)
**END TGS SPOILERS!**

**BEGIN POSSIBLE COYOTE'S NEW FIC SPOILERS!**
Coyote> Sorry, but I forgot to tell you in my e-mail that I read your new fic and really enjoyed it! It was, uh...very interesting the way Demona hoped to cure the mutation. Although that just proved to us all exactly where Demmy's mind is most of the time, right? ;)
**END POSSIBLE COYOTE'S NEW FIC SPOILERS!!!**

SJ> Heh, *loved* your little creativity demon on Ebert & Traveler. But forget that...how about Ebert & our old friend Jackal? ;)

Deuce> Actually, no. I think you act *much* too mature for most 14-year olds. :)

**BEGIN MOSTLY SAPPY BUT SHORT RP!!!**
**Finally, the party is coming to an end at Jim's mansion. Coyote and Ravyn are dancing very close as their song comes to an end. Ravyn smiles up at Coyote, and he returns the smile. Before he can react, though, Rav leans forward quickly and gives him a light kiss on his cheek. "Thanks for everything, Coyote." Rav says, giving him a big hug. Both Coyote and Ravyn blush brightly, smiling and giggling as the party finally comes to an end...**
**END MOSTLY SAPPY BUT SHORT RP!!!**
(forgive me for this one, Coyote...) ;)
Ravyn
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:39:50 PM
IP: svm-ts3-19.c2i2.com

**RP WARNING**
Vatican City
Cardinal Ratzinger is reading documents about a Bishop named Galante with a disturbed look. He calls on his special phone.

"Guten Tag, Herr Unkle"
"Anna, I need you and your Scouts immediately. There is a serious problem involving a John Birch style rouge named Bishop Galante. He is planning a coup to take over the Papacy. His plans involve assasinating the current Pope as well as myself. I need you to relay this message to Ave Maria immediately. I have Fedexed five tickets to Rome and you should receive them tommorrow. This fiend will cause serious problems and generate more support for the left-leaning dissenters. I am already working on his excommunictaion, but we must act soon, or the future of our Church shall be in Jeopardy and another Reformation will be underfoot. I will see you an dyour friends in a few days. Auf Wiedershien"
**END RP**

Hello everyone.

Doug>$I figured you may need the help$

Kyrvyn> I, Strahd was excellent. I need to get the second book in that series. I also like Van Ritchen's character, though I would look to have some other heroes in the Series meet as well, and some of the darklords would help them to spite their enemies. It's a common theme that allows heroes to win.

Selanit> You're probably right about age and gender better not being known, but I alos like to meet people IRL that I have met on the Web, but I wouldn't want soemone to reveal such information to me unwillingly. I have no problem discussing it. I am male and 21 :)

Women in Selective Service> Personally I don't favor teh draft. I prefer a volunteer army. As for women in the military, I have no problems with it, but I have a problem with the demeaning way requirements may be changed to try to be accomadating. Before West Point was coed, everyone majored in Engineering, but afetrwards, that requirement was lifted. Why? If a woman wants to serve in combat, she should have the same grueling treatment to prepare as men do. The enemies won't take gender into considerationa, nd ndeither shoudl we. If a woman can (and there are probably many who can) pass all the physical tests for combat in the training ground, then by all means let them fight. As for the hazing, it can be an advantage, because it will prepare many women for the situations of war and how to survive it.

Protective Male Syndrome> I am not entirely guilty fo it, though I can be to an extent. I am chivalrous and I would never strike a woman in self-defense, though I will not be over-protective if my alleged girlfriend was to go somewhere at night or such. Personally, I want a woman who is maternal and protective of me and dosen't mind my quirks an dinsecurities, plus the fact that I am complacent, secure, loving, and boring.

Zath and Dark Angel> Welcome Back

Zath> You're female. I thought you were a guy too.

Coyote> Did you say you were looking for someone to room with?

Kaioto> I was educated by the christian Brothers for High School and part of College, though now I go to Loyola University, which is Jesuit. I odn't agree with everything you said about Catholicism, but I agree with most of it. Perosnally, I tend to follow my faith much more than my Government, though I have *much* more respect for John Paul II tha I will ever have for Slick Willy :)

As for Reform, I am a little leary of it, because there are people who always want more. One example was a nun at my old College who never wore her habit and pitched a fit fi you called her sister. I don't understand why these poeple aren't just given bus fare and directions to the nearest Episcopal Church :)

Doug and Kitainia> I hope things go well for you two, regardless of what mothers may do. In The Journey Across teh Threshold of Hope, Pope John Paul sums up his papacy in three words, "Be not afraid". That is the advice that I give about your future. "Be not afraid".

BTW, what is a Southpaw?

**Green Baron leaves**
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:33:12 PM
IP: 141.164.133.101

Robby> I'll just say that TAAS is gay.(ooohhhh, that rhymed)

To anyone> Just to bring back old memories, I've been scanning the comment archive looking for my first post. The oldest one I could find was posted on Oct 1 when I still used my real name, Allison. If you are scanning in there for some strange reason and see an older post, please tell me :) Thanks.
SOROW
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:20:50 PM
IP: usr4-4-dialup37.mix1.irving.cw.net

Hello peoples! How are you all?

Kyryn~ I'm sorry that I used Nudnik- I guess I didn't notice that you already had him. Is it okay if I still keep him though?

Demona Taina~ Your pictures are awesome, I can't wait to see some more. Don't worry about your English-your doing a great job.

Thoughts on new EP~
There are no words that I can think of that will explain exactly what I thought of the new EP so I will say one. WOW!
That is, I believe, the BEST Gargoyles episode yet.
Just one question, what happened with Gabriel, was he in the episode, or did he go back to Avalon?
End thoughts

Don't forget to vote gargoyles! We are at 80%.

Bye, bye!

Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Colorado Springs, CO
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:16:31 PM
IP: 1cust23.tnt23.dfw5.da.uu.net

SOROW- Heh heh... I like TAAS myself. Having completed it last year, I get to skip school three days this week! Today was the first, and it was fun! But really, don't sweat it. Its an easy test, written for like, a 7th grade level. Just don't worry about it and you'll do fine.

Um, TAAS stands for something like Texas Assement of Academic Skills... Its a required test over Math and English and stuff. You have to pass the test, or else you don't graduate... But Juniors and Seniors who have already taken it just get to party!
Robby
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 06:07:45 PM
IP: spider-wc024.proxy.aol.com

Sorry I didn't post last night, but I'm still faced with the horror of tenth grade TAAS. I tried to gain a couple hours sleep, but it didn't work.

JEB> I didn't even know there was a fan registry. Guess I'll do that in a sec.

Fleur> Muchas gracias mi amiga!

Zath> Our teacher didn't drill us on iambic pentameter, but we were required a rhyme scheme and exactly 14 lines. Kick *** poem you wrote there! What inspired your subject?
SOROW
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 05:22:07 PM
IP: usr4-4-dialup37.mix1.irving.cw.net

**** TGS COMMENTS/SPOILERS ****

Finally sat down to read this ep (although I've read advance copies before now. Nice being a member of the Staff! <grin>). Pat, Jen, Fan: Great work! Both the story and the artwork... but, I have to ask one question... WHO thought to name the police officer at the end Estrada?!? Someone having a CHiPs Flashback?!? <LOL>

Overall, great work guys!

**** END COMMENTS/SPOILERS ****

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 05:03:36 PM
IP: m183.ieway.com

Only short because of a chemestry test tomorrow.

***SPOILER TGS-EP***
WOW, thats the first word I thought of as I read the story. That was realy great especialy the pics. As for Demona I think it was time to let her come closer with humanity and I am happy that she met a good member of it. What could have happened if she would have met one of the former Quarrymen or another enemy of gargoyles? I don't like this imagine. But after all the best was when she -äh- "meet" this Darien. This was surely one of the funniest scenes in TGS. Hope she will become soon closer to the clan again and "tolerate" humans more.
***END SPOILER***
God, I am tired. OK since next time
Ciao
Gabriel (very tired)
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 04:11:17 PM
IP: ics3f.l.srv.t-online.de

Sun & the Serpent> Before comments shift towards Buffy. Let me say this. HAAAHAHAHA! *he maliciously laughs* This is the last one. but everyone has questions and they're looking at me with an eye to strange.

Someone wanted to see the Festival of Hathor. No way you I could have made that PG 13. The Egyptians had parties that could put Roman revels to shame. Just have to leave it to your imagination or better yet, write it out. One of the things Nicodemus orignally planned for the time in Egypt was that it inspire others to write about it. You have a cast, a setting, magic, romance and three years to play around with. Just a thought.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 01:35:02 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

(hopes no one think him bragging) I also have great posture always
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:33:09 PM
IP: sdcoe206-236.out.sdcoe.k12.ca.us

(returns from visting Serverius Jr's link) Nice page (evenly). I dislike scoundrels who act like gentleman for personal gain but I don't hate you for it. As for you Blue Carue I am glad my babblings haven't insuled anyone <bows>
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:31:37 PM
IP: sdcoe206-236.out.sdcoe.k12.ca.us

Hey gang!

Wow... seems like the story is going much better then I had hoped. I am very pleased you all seem to like the art and story. Patrick and I had a BLAST writing it.

BTW... for whomever mentioned how Demona got home that first night. She had a rough time of it... lots of crashing and climbling back up buildings... but she did glide home... she just tried to block it all out or maybe even just brush it off as a bad dream. We left it up to you to decide... But I think her instincts and some crash landing got her home. :)

Thanks again for all the GREAT feed back.
CrzyDemona
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:06:03 PM
IP: host24.sn180-3.sysci.org

Selanit> I don't much care to find out the age and gender of most people on the 'net, until I know them better. I do prefer to know more information about my friends; this doesn't apply to people I just run into.

And would you have guessed that I'm 14?
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:08:03 AM
IP: edtn003024.hs.telusplanet.net

Wilek> <<I'm awful at decoding ppl's genders over the Internet, with neutral names anyhow>> I don't even try. Well, all right, maybe a little. But I don't put any serious effort into it. I mean, on the 'Net you can interact with other human intelligences without any visually-cued stereotypes leaping into effect. I remember an old timer once telling me about the good old days, back before HTML. He told me there was this one person, went by Zach, to whom everyone deferred in matters of C++ programming. No matter what your problem, Zach would have some helpful comment. He was respected the world over, considered a leading authority on programming. About the time HTML 1.1 was the latest, it came out that he was just 13 years old. He'd been giving advice for three years at that point, and no one had ever guessed. But the important part to the story was that his age didn't *matter.* A few of his older correspondents got all hoity-toity on him, but most people respected him even more than they had before, because they had an opportunity to judge him based entirely on his skills, not his age. And that is why I don't put much stock in figuring out the gender of my online friends. Online, *I* have an opportunity to interact with people without unconscious prejudices about their plumbing affecting how I react to them. I still have preconceptions, of course, but the 'Net gives me a wonderful way to avoid bringing at least some of them into play.

(Disclaimer: I'm fuzzy on the details of the story above, namely Zach's exact age and handle. And it may have been something other than C++ he was good at. HARK! A folk-tale is born! <G>)

Shakespeare in love> I thought it was terrific, mainly because Tom Stoppard is one of my favorite modern playwrights. Anyone else seen a production of _Arcadia_? Great stuff -- all about pheasant hunting, thermodynamics, love, architecture, and cataloguing. Great stuff. Also, Judi Dench made a *fantastic* Queen Elizabeth!

Robby> Awesome! I hope it'll fit. If not, I might have to go to my backup disguise -- THE RUTABAGA!! MU HA HA HA!
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Ballpitria, Tuesday, February 23, 1999 04:11:06 AM
IP: cdss1.colorado.edu

Hey all,

Wilek > <<<Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology>> Arthur C. Clarke, no? >

Actually, no. Switch magic and technology to get Clark's original. I lvoe switching key words in famous quotes, it makes them so much more... interesting :)

BTW, bits of the soundtrack for Hunt for Red October are available on mp3. I had the theme for a while, but lost it in the Great Hard Drive Crash of 98.

Garg-related songs > Geez, I've got tons. Here's some of them:

---start song bit---

For Goliath and Elisa: "Why Can't This Be Love?" -Van Halen
... Well, why not?

"Possession" -Sarah McLachlan, for the following lyrics:
<memories trapped in time... the night is my companion, the solitude my guide... Into this night I wander, it's morning that I dread>

"Angie" -The Rolling Stones
<But Angie, Angie... ain't it good to be alive>

"Famous Last Words" -Billy Joel
<Sitting here in Avalon, looking at the pouring rain>

"Turn to Stone" -ELO
Title says it all

"This Night" -Billy Joel
<This night is mine.. It's only you and I.. Tomorrow Is a long time away.. This night can last forever>

"The Finer Things" -Steve Winwood
<For time is a river rolling into nowhere.. We must live while we can...> -Sound familiar?

"The Dream is Over" -Van Halen
<Oh, we're the lost generation, Have no place to go, The road to destruction, Is all we need to know... Cause it's a rip off, We're stripped, drawn, and cheated, We're flat stone cold lied to But we're not defeated, Nooo, sir>
<I see the power changing hands, rising from the streets.. a self-made businessman knows how the system can be beat> -Hmm, everybody's favorite megalomaniacal entrepaneur?

"Dreams" -Van Halen
<We'll get higher and higher, straight up we'll climb... Higher and higher leave it all behind> -Need I say more?

---end song bit---

***Warning, shameless plug alert***

Doug, Kitainia, and any other Rock fans out there > Click my name for the first part of my novelization of the best action movie ever made. I know you guys'll get a kick out of this one.

***End shameless plug***

[yawn] ok, got class in six hours.

'Night all

==Are you okay? You look like somebody who just ran out of ammo. -- Kobie Horne==
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 03:03:00 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

**Blue and green flames swirl to open a portal. Princess Estra steps in.**

WHEW! what a time i've had today! finally finished the next part of my fanfiction, i know it's fast for some but slow for me! go read it! I COMMAND THEE!

http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/

same place as last time-- i do suggest you read the first part first (well, golly, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?)

Selanit: *ROTFLMAO* i thot it was funny. go read my story!

Kylynna: i know, i know i promised to post the story directly after school. but, i started watching the Bubblegum Crisis, and got all wrapped up in it, and then when i wanted to get online my mom sez HOMEWORK FIRST. so, i finish my homework, my da' confinscates the 'puter for a half hour, (so i got to watch Dilbert) but, i have a pressing question about the Bubblegum Crisis: is Daley DEAD?????? i think that evyl dude blew him up but since he was there from the beginning i thot that if they'd kill him it would at least be gory! besides, i LIIIIIKED HIM! (call me crazy, call me anything you want, hey, this is coming from an Owen-obsessee)

Spice Girls: i killed Ginger Spice. they're just covering it up. no further comment.

Gray is the sky spread out o'er the moor, dark fire, cold fire, open me a door! To Seattle!

**The green-blue flame swirls to reveal a view of dark streets and torrential rain**

Eh. mebbe not today.

Gray is the sky spread out o'er the moor, dark fire, cold fire, open me a door! Hawaii!

**This time she steps through, and the passage closes**
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Passing Realms
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:33:36 AM
IP: spider-wj063.proxy.aol.com

Sorry about the double post everyone, but I have to get this stuff off my mind before it gets lost.

James Birdsong> I understand, I was just agreeing that there are many kinds of gentlemen. :-)

Carolynn> Demona's take on human males is just too funny. And who knows how right she is? *g*

Selanit> That little dialogue had me chuckling. Not boring at all. Makes me want to attend a Renaissance Festival. :-)

Demona Taina> Your English is quite good. Knowing more than one language is advantageous. I wish I was still bilingual.

Fleur> Cool, you were first this week. Yes, I received your email, so don't worry. *g*

Women in Selective Service: I need to express yet more of my nonsensical opinion. Society is not very close at all to approving of such a thing. A bill or whatever for that would not live very long, despite the movement for "equality." I think the only way it could happen was if we were engaged in a world war with such massive loss of life, we'd be forced to start drawing from other segments of the population. Of course if it ever came down to _that_ type of situation, obviously society has gone downhill and is definitely on the brink of destruction.

Must try to sleep now...
Blue Caeru
Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:02:26 AM
IP: ppp-08-nerdc-ts5.nerdc.ufl.edu

$Sorry for the RP-only comment, but when I told DMW that 'you two would make a cute couple', I was referring to him and Legion. I unfortunately timed it so that it can be taken another way. Just thought I'd better make that clear.$
Wilek again
Monday, February 22, 1999 11:40:16 PM
IP: tnt-2-94-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

**RP!**

[At the party...Wilek: "That whole Legion Reborn situation scared me for a bit; good thing she seems a lot more...benevolent...now." Dark Mage Wilek: "Yes. she could be a valuable addition to the team. If she weren't in love with that irritating punk Fonzie." Wilek: "Yeah. Didn't know he was a trickster Fey though. You know, DM, you two would make a cute couple. Anyhow, maybe, since the party's about over, we should go back to the Dark Star. Let's move, everyone!" The team piles out to their black shuttle and SJ and Frankie's TIE Scimitar.]

**END RP AND BEGIN TGS SPOILERS!**

WOW. I seriously thought for a while that they'd leave Demona the way she was. She was certainly more pleasant. ^_^ I think she came out of all this a little wiser. But...when she was a garg, she hated humans. When she thought she was human, she started hating gargs. Is it me, or does this say something awfully distressing about the way her mind's wired? Oh...Graeme's a Mario fan?! WOW. To a gaming nut like me, this is a *great* revelation. Oh...at one point, Angela asked to be able to transform during the day, like her mother. And someone speculated (albeit incorrectly) that aliens were taking over Manhattan. Does any of the new staff members have much influence with the others? <g> Hm...Why do I get the feeling that Darien is a future Quarryman?

**END TGS SPOILERS AND BEGIN THOSE FOR COYOTE'S NEW FIC!**

This one was incredible. Incredible. I had no idea about Samson and Solomon's aging disease. And the thought of him and Thorn...<gag> I wonder if Samson will be healed as well...

**END ALL SPOILERS!**

Remember last week's discussion of music that reminds us of Gargoyles? I hadn't heard any at the time. That's changed. Earlier tonight, I got a copy of Return To Pride Rock, the Lion King II soundtrack. 'One Of Us' and 'My Lullaby' reminded me of Demona for some reason. (And the latter sounds a lot like Anoth's 'Symphony Of Hate'.) They're great songs; if you haven't heard them, then please buy this CD.

Self-Criticism> I'm not too harsh on my stories, but I'm not egotistical either. I try to write the kinds of stories that I like reading. If I can read one of my own stories and enjoy it, then I know it's ready to be released.

Steve Gooch> <<Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology>> Arthur C. Clarke, no? It's pretty much the basis of my own view of magic in the Gargs universe--nothing more than ultratech-level energy manipulation. Technology can do anything magic can do; there's nothing really mysterious or supernatural about most of it.

Someone mentioned The Hunt For Red October? My favorite part of that movie was the music. I wish I had the soundtrack.

Selanit> Illuminati Internet Services? Intriguing...

Kyryn> <<The brain can simply blank out and continue performing actions: a sort of 'automatic pilot'>> You know, my fourth fic is finished (will release soon), but I have no real memory of writing it. :/

Demona Taina> Your English is superb; there's nothing stopping you from writing excellent fics. BTW, just don't bother with TGC. They absolutely ruined Gargoyles. That's much of the raison d'etre of TGS, in fact--we wanted to do better than they did. And we've more than succeeded. :)

Zath> <<Have you seen the Simpsons Halloween special where Bart, Lisa, and Millhouse (sp?) fell into a giant blender at the end?>> I don't think so, but I wish I did, because the Halloween Specials are my favorite Simpsons eps (along with the Sideshow Bob ones)! <<what would happen if someone made a virus that added human genes to a fay?>> I think that the Fey, being made of pure energy, are immune to viruses. <<I'm not a guy.>> Really? I did not know that. I'm awful at decoding ppl's genders over the Internet, with neutral names anyhow. <<they ended up killing each other and everyone else on stage with giant cannons.>> Man I wish I could have seen that. <<I'd also suggest Dr. Fred Edison, but he's not really very mad (or particularly evil), and I'm not sure how many people know who he is.>> From the LucasArts video game Maniac Mansion? There was a TV show of that name, but it was nothing like the game and it stunk. Believe me, the game's version of Fred was very evil.

Kaioto> <<What would happen to society if women had to register for ‘Selective Service’>> I don't know, but just the thought of the thing chills me, even in its current form. If there were a draft...there's a kid who lives near me, a friend of mine, who's chronologically old enough to qualify for this, but his physical and psychological makeup are such that he'd end up killing himself and *gladly* taking others with him if he ever ended up in military service. On top of all that, his parents are so protective of him that they'd land themselves in the electric chair trying to keep the government from taking him. Not that he minds.
Wilek Nereus
Monday, February 22, 1999 11:38:06 PM
IP: tnt-2-94-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

No Rp tonight. Gotta rest a couple days, then sort out what's actually going on.

Gooch: Hey, semantics. I liked my quote better. ;)

Gentlemen: Yeah, I'm a bit of a scoundrel. But only once you get to know me. I start off as a perfect gentleman (especially to the ladies!)

Kaioto: I gotta say, I enjoy hearing your opinion. They're quite intelligent, and very well-written. And, I agree totally. We are often so quick to dismiss or destroy everything that doesn't fit in with our own personal view. I admit that it is regrettable that often a handful of people, the "bad apples" of the bunch, give a bad stereotype to everyone in the group. From a Christian perspective, I find it tragic that most believers are ridiculed as "bible-thumpin'" fools. People like Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, and to another extend, splinter cult groups like those of David Koresh, have only served to further that stereotype. Which is a shame, because almost all of the Christians I know are in NO way like that stereotype at all. They're simply regular folks with a strong belief in a God, and strong morals. It's the few that harm the many.

Illuminati: If you guys like the ol' conspiracy stuff, check out the website "www.disinfo.com". They got tons of links to various conspiracy related stuff. Click on my name to go there.

Zath: Sorry to tell ya this, but Brimstone has officially joined the ranks of the Network Deceased.

Shakespeare in Love: Hey, I LOVED this film! Probably cause Gwyneth Paltrow was in it....naked!.....in my eyes, she's about as close to perfection as can be!

Sociology: Is somebody here going to be a sociology major? I'll pray for you. I took a course, and it left me horribly depressed. Probably cause the whole premise (in my SJ generalization terms) is that there is no free will. We're all pretty much conditioned, programmed automatons. We think like we do because of our environment, and not our own consciousness. In other words, WE ARE BORG. However, I will give sociologists their props: they try to teach people, to some extent, such as in harmful circumstances, to break out of the "cage" we live in and change their behavior. Still, in my opinion, it makes us humans look like robots, and when that happens, I think the quality of our life goes down, big time.
Whoo, I'll probably be flamed for that.

Robby: Ah, an observant one! Yes, that necklace of Kari's will come in very handy very soon....

CREATIVITY DEMON: I just thought of this....I guess "Ebert & Elder" is out of the question, so howzabout.....
"EBERT & TRAVELER!"
Roger: Well, Traveler, I thought that Babe III was by far the best movie I've seen this year. I give it a thumbs up."
Traveler: WHAT? That movie was horrible. Thumbs down. Now change your vote.
Roger: What? No! I'm a professional, I can't change my vote and remain credible!
Traveler, very seriously: Change your vote, Rog. NOW.
Roger: No way, I---
Traveler whips out a baseball bat, and proceeds to brutally beat Roger, cackling madly the whole time: CHANGE YOUR VOTE!! CHANGE YOUR VOTE! BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!

God I'd pay money to see that! ;-p


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 11:12:58 PM
IP: 207-172-45-58.s58.tnt5.brd.erols.com

I didn't want Kaioto and Doug to feel insuledt Blue Carue. Robby train yourself to use different words like Fudge and Wax instead of curses.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 11:07:35 PM
IP: dt043na6.san.rr.com

Dumlao: Thanks for posting the rules. Just two small changes you need to make on the one rp post per poster per day rule. One, 'days' begin and end at 5 am by the CR clock (so that people who have limited net access or are in other time zones can still fully participate), and two, on days when the room is cleared you can do two rp posts. The first before the room is cleared, the second after it gets cleared. That's all. Again, thanks for posting the rules.

Traveler: Waiting for you, man. $ I can't pick up my RP threads again until you do your thing. $ So come on! :) Later.
Doug
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:58:17 PM
IP: hil-qbu-ppl-vty52.as.wcom.net

Little mis-type in my first post *I know, I know, you guys are probably sick of me, already, but my fingers are working against me tonight! :D*

Noogies and congratulations to Patrick, Demmie, AND A Fan :) Couldn't forget anybody. You all were wonderful. Looking forward to more entertainment in future edit readings, guys!
Carolynn
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:30:12 PM
IP: spider-tl044.proxy.aol.com

Demona Taina< Forgot to add in my last post. Liked the pics on your page. The fave's the pencil sketch of Demona Taina, located right underneath the one of Eva le Paz. Keep it up! I also recommmend Photoshop. It has the basics when it comes with the scanner, but the colors it offers have a wide-ranged pallette :)
Carolynn
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:24:42 PM
IP: spider-tl044.proxy.aol.com

Procrastination can be a dangerous thing. Add that to all Honors classes, and you've got a combo more deadly than an A-bomb :) Which is why I ain't been around for the past month. *waves to all, all smiles*

Wanted to say congrats to Patrick and Demmie for their work! I happened to read the story and see the illustration in edits, and it bowled me over. *noogies the pair of them*

Blue Caeru< *LOL* Demona's comments about human males were perfect. Makes me wonder if Demona is more correct about humans than we all thought originally :)

Demona Taina< Hey, nice to meet ya. Your English is great, don't worry. I don't think it's the fact that having English as a second language is what gets some people unable to write, but how well they actually speak it. I know if Gargoyles was originally in French, I'd be writing in short, choppy sentences.
*L* I'd pay good money to see Goliath as a life-size Godzilla zapping the city with his fire breath.
Vinnie: *watching Goliath through the lens of a large TV camera, in place of "Animal"* "Aw, can't ya believe it!"
Goliath slowly heads in his direction, toes stomping around and almost crushing him, then pounds off down Times Square.
Vinnie: I got it! I got it! I knew it! *film suddenly pops out of camera's back as he does a happy little dance down the street*

*scratches her head* Hey, how'd that get in there?

Anyways *hugs Demmie and Patrick* congrats you two! Be proud of yourselves!! :D

Back to the Chemistry books we go! Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work we go... :)
Carolynn - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:17:17 PM
IP: spider-tl044.proxy.aol.com

Sorry.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:08:59 PM
IP: 173-190-229.ipt.aol.com

Here's two more pics.
Nudnik :
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/3816/nudnik-1.jpg
Sata :
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/3816/sata.gif
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:07:50 PM
IP: 173-190-229.ipt.aol.com

Here's two more pics.
Nudnik :
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/3816/nudnik-1.jpg
Sata :
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/3816/sata.gif
Anonymous - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:07:45 PM
IP: 173-190-229.ipt.aol.com

Bigglesworth- $Nice turnabout on the Harrison Ford joke using Eastwood. Fitting.$

Gentlemen- Almost always one myself, and the only recent occassion I have cussed is when someone TRIED to run me over in their car while I was out bike riding...

Spice girls garg fans?- Hmm... That could redeem them slightly.

Basilisks- I have one as a pet. Realtive of an iguana, looks really cool with a triple fin thingie. And he runs accross large bodies of water!

CR rules- Look good to me.

Selanit- Easters in a month and a half. I got the giant carrot costume...

Taina- Actually, you're LUCKY to have missed TGC... Nice pics by the way!

Zath- Welcome back! And Kamehameha is what Goku yells to throw a fireball. Could be a king I guess...

**JIM'S MONTH LONG SUPERBOWL PARTY LONG CONCLUSION! (Actually, it WAS longer and better, but DC cleared it all...)**

Legion looks at Brain, and grabs him. "Thanks for bringing me back to life rodent, now I'm done with you!" With a puff of magic flame, the Brain vanishes, along with Pinky who erupts a slow "naaaarf" as he vanishes. (Back to ACME labs for them!) Then Legion turns on the Leos bent on conquering the world. With a flick of her evil wrist, they are decimated, never to be seen again.

"Now that my hindrances are gone, its time for the rest of you! But first, better music." With a snap of her fingers, the Jukebox changes from the two songs it had to some evil theme from Castlevania. Cool stuff.

From thin air Legion conjures up stuff. Quadruped fish and insectile birds, zany zoophytes and mammalian monstrosities. Mannequins and cigar-store indians, miscreant muppets and Suess lookalikes, an array of reconfigured brutes, beasts, and B-Movie beings on parade.

Instantly all the fighters at the mansion are on alert. Alucard, Jewel D, Superman, the Ghostbusters, SJ, Adam West, Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood, Michael Jackson, you name it. If they are here, they re fighting. SIngers sing to try and sooth the savage beasts, but to no avail. Legion is controlling it all, and winning.

Various groups attack her, and get hurt. Kenny and Mr. DC get killed in an all out assault, and then try attacking again. DC gets killed repeatedly in various gruesome ways, but keeps coming back for more. The battle rages for some time, demons and Legion ready to take over the world.

Theres a crash of thunder and a brilliant flash of light as Sailor Moon arrives to help, and has no effect. Goku from Dragonball arrives and starts trying stuff, but to no effect, he is useless until he's gotten beat up for an hour.

Frank's 2000 inch TV is destroyed as something flies into it. A shame really. It cost Jim a lot of money.

Jim has activated his anime-style mecha army, but no effect. All seems lost as Legion laughs, and uses her evil magic to try and crash the mansion down on everyone. The place shakes, is ready to fall apart when the backup Jim called for several posts ago at Marty McFly's insistence shows up! He taps a wall at a certain spot. (Hit name for song cue)

Everything is restored to order, as a cool individual stands there, thumbs raised in a cool manner, and smiles. "Heeeey..." Its Fonzie! Immediatley everything vanishes as Fonz snaps his fingers, and Legion stares at him transfixed. She walks over to the Fonz, a young, genetically created evil woman with omnipotent powers... In love. And all is peaceful, the Fonz has put everything to rights with just his coolness.

That out of the way, things settle back to normal. Couples get closer and dance the final dances. Heather and Robby dance. SJ and Kari dance, Kari still delighted over the jeweled gift SJ got her that will probably play some important part in his RP later on. Coyote and Ravyn share a kiss as the final song plays on. Any other couple at the party dances as well, while some singles enjoy the event too. The dragons form a club and agree to meet once a month from now on. Davy of the Monkees frowns and commits himself to the fact Demona will never be his, and she is happy enough with Brooklyn now. And as the party comes to a close, happy days commence...

The next day however, the mansion blows up. More on that later.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 09:55:55 PM
IP: spider-ta084.proxy.aol.com

No RP tonight. Suffering from mental meltdown. :)

"Moment of Truth": Thanks for all the comments on the new fic. A couple of answers to questions:

1) The scanner's being sent by UPS back to Acer tomorrow, so it should be another couple of weeks, then I can start scanning again.

2) As to why Thorn seduced Samson: Demona realized that it would be too late to save Samson himself, so she was thinking more along the lines of protecting future generations ... as it was shown in Solomon, subsequent generations that receive the mutated gene will result in an even faster effect from the mutation. So she had Thorn try to produce an egg with Samson, the reason being that she hoped the Rokkan structure of Thorn's makeup would filter out the mutant gene, thereby preventing it from being passed on.
Of course, it still runs the risk of being passed on ... even though it's been suppressed by magical means, Solomon is still a carrier of the mutation.

Sylvia: Yes, I agree. Jigglypuff was *very* cute. Though he was a bit of a brat, too.

Doug: **writes on little pad** Okay, your order is duly noted, Mr. Elder. I'll check the fic, come up with something, and have the vinyl with me in Dallas. :)

Spice Girls as closet Garg fans: Well, it's conceivable. Then again, with that argyment you could easily say that Jim Steinman could've been an insider with the show ... a lot of songs on "Bat Out of Hell II" seem to mirror a lot of stuff that was implied in Gargoyles.

Zath: If you insist, if I find the toilet poem, I'll put it up.

Illuminati.com: I noticed this site has a link to Steve Jackson Games on it ... fitting. :) (Sorry, the INWO player in me is rising to the surface. DIVE DIVE DIVE!!!)

TGS eps: Both of them were excellent.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, February 22, 1999 09:32:26 PM
IP: modem33.i-is.com

Deuce> You're thinking of illuminati.org -- and it doesn't make Netscape die, just confuses it greatly. <G>

Zath> No, but that's cool. We do have Puke and Snot. Everybody's got them. ("And then you show the Queen your Magaga." "I show the Queen my Magaga? Right out there in front of thousands of spectators?" "Yeah, unless the King is home . . .") With any luck I'll be able to get them to institute the Running of the Maidens this year. We have jousters, (of course) though the shows are all choreographed and scripted, so they get a bit boring after the first umpteen dozen repeats.
("So, what shall we show the gentlefolk today as a display of our knightly prowess?"
"A WENCHING CONTEST!"
"No, Sir Marcus, for you that would be a test of speed!" "All right, then . . . SPEED WENCHING!! Ladies, come and get me!"
"Sir Marcus, I was thinking more along the lines of a display horsemanship, since we seem to be mounted and armed."
"I don't know, Sir Robert -- I don't like this lance very much."
"What a shame; I was just about to say I like your lance-a-lot, Sir Marcus!"
"Oh, ho ho ho! Good one, Sir Robert. Knight Marshal! Perhaps you can suggest a contest."
"Good Sir Knights, I have here rings made of the sacred, holy wood. Supposing I threw them in the air, and you tried to catch them going full tilt on your horse?"
"Why should we, Sir Marcus? Is there a prize? Land? Money? Women?"
"No land."
"Oh!"
"No money."
"Oh!"
"No women."
"No WOMEN???"
"But there is a title! He who collects the most rings shall be called . . ."
"Yes?"
"Shall be known as . . ."
"YES???"
"SIR MIGHTY WHACKER!"
<profound pause>
"It has a nice *ring* to it, doesn't it, Sir Marcus?"
"Wacka, wacka, wacka!"
"But that's not all! There is also a prize!"
"Spit it out, Knight Marshal!"
"The victor shall get . . . A SHRUBBERY!"
<another profound pause>
"That's it? That's the prize? Pfaw! Don't you agree, Sir Robert?"
"Oh, I don't know, Sir Marcus. It might be fun to lance for a bush! <turns to audience, chuckling> And remember, folks, if your children are getting these jokes, it's not our fault!"

I could go on, but I've already bored several spectators to death, and I can feel my major intestine preparing a last assault on my brain in a desperate attempt to prevent more needless deaths. So long!
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Ballpitria, Monday, February 22, 1999 08:54:25 PM
IP: kittcomm30a-31.colorado.edu

Got to post at beginning of week before brain starts to go again... :-P

James Birdsong> About gentlemen... okay. :-) There are all kinds.

Doug> About writers fishing for compliments: Well, yes, some people are like that, but this topic always makes me feel embarrassed because I have accidentally sounded like I was fishing for compliments several times. I _really_ don't mean to sound like that. I'll make an offhand comment aloud to myself, then someone nearby will say something nice about my work, then I'll reflexively smile and thank them, thus giving others the illusion that I am fishing for compliments and making me feel rotten for doing so. My reaction is just automatic because I have been taught it is good manners... boy, that sounded lame... :-P

Argent> Belated congratulations on your new baby cousin. Babies of almost any kind are so cute. :-)

Matt> This is a late response as well, but I really like "Red Dwarf." Currently, my local PBS station is airing Series VII, and I agree, it just isn't as funny as the other seasons. I hope the station will buy Series VIII. (Smeg!)

To the people who recently gave us samples of their work (poetry, drawings, etc.)> There is a phenomenally high concentration of talent around here. :-) Keep creating!

Selanit> Hmm, very interesting. A cover operation, perhaps? I think the logo just looks too suspicious. :-)

Kaioto> Down with stereotypes. Judging many by a few is unfair, to state the obvious. Choosing "samples" from a population is something for statistical purposes, not for determining what "kind" of people they are. Hope that made sense.
As for "brainwashed" people, well, I have to admit I was like that for a while. I think I was very disillusioned at that point in my life, but I do not reject religion and spirituality anymore.

Women in selective service: If it ever came down to that, there would be major issues about dividing the sexes up (I know, stating the obvious _again_). I do not have any ideas on how that part will turn out, but personally, I would not have a problem with having to sign up for selective service and possibly having to enter combat. I am not condoning war and violence, but I feel that it is a sort of civil duty, being a citizen of the United States, among other reasons. But if I completely disagreed with the reasons for war, I think I would try to "dodge the draft." However, the thing is, _somebody_ has to do it (enter combat, I mean) when the country goes to war, for whatever reasons they may be.

******* TGS episode comments *******
I enjoyed reading it. It was well-written, had character development for several, and had great illustrations. Good to see Coldstone and Coldfire again. Seeing a very different side of Demona, one without her bad memories of humans, was refreshing. The results of her amnesia were so drastic, and it made me wonder if she was being anything like her younger self, the one who Goliath first fell in love with. Both Demona and Angela were portrayed accurately, IMHO. Also, I found this ep to be one of the more humorous ones. I was giggling at the parts about human males. :-) And wow, Demona has a good sense of humor, as demonstrated by her little joke on that sniveling corporate kiss-up! One last minor thing: It was nice to have Matt appear, even if it was very briefly. I can't help it, he is one of my favorite characters. :-) A delightful ep.
******* end TGS episode comments *******

You wouldn't believe how cold it can get in Florida, the "Sunshine State." I was standing outside for quite some time, recording the answers to the chemistry lab questions (to check them, of course :-), and my hands were almost numb by the time I finished. I know, this is total complaining! At least I don't have to worry about being caught in a snowstorm. I admit it, I am being a wimp. :-P

That's all. Take care, everyone.
Blue Caeru
Monday, February 22, 1999 08:28:58 PM
IP: ppp-70-ts54.nerdc.ufl.edu

**WARNING, PARTY RP** (Since the party seems to be winding down and everyone will probably be paying attention to the Brain, just pretend this happened some time last week.)
**Zath is off to one side talking with a small group of people consisting of Shenzi and two men, one short with greasy brown hair and brown eyes and the other a tall older man with thinning gray hair. Every once in a while all four people turn around and eye various people on the dance floor in a distinctly creepy way before returning to their conversation. If anyone had been willing to get close enough to listen, they would have heard Zath whine, "But I don't like fava beans..."**
**PAUSE RP**

Wow, it's been a really long time since I was last here what with school and all. Miss a couple of weeks and if takes forever to catch up. *g* Most people have probably forgotten about a lot of the stuff I'm responding to here, but that's okay. I also didn't get to read any of the week that got trashed, so if I missed anything important, please let me know. Here's everything in no particular order.

Robby> <<Great lines... "KAMEHAMEHA!" -Goku>> Wasn't Kamehameha a Hawaiian king? <<There IS a fourth race already. The New Olympians>> Actually, weren't the New Olympians half human/half fay mixes? I guess that would make them the 2.5th race. <<A moment of silence for film critic, the late Gene Siskel.>> What!?! When did this happen??? <<Megabyte of ReBoot fame>> I wonder what would happen if he got together with Mr. Disconnect.

Brimstone> <<production has been "suspended">> Wasn't that basically what they said when they canceled Strange Luck?

Wilek> <<I seem to have some kind of blender fixation>> Have you seen the Simpsons Halloween special where Bart, Lisa, and Millhouse (sp?) fell into a giant blender at the end? <<Wilek briefly wonders if Zath actually witnessed the birth of Kitty>> No, I didn't, but she seems too egocentric to be anyone's minion. I think she's evil just for the sake for being evil. <<a plot to eliminate every stupid person>> I had actually thought of a similar plot a while back. Mine was to bring back all the really cool toys that were discontinued because they were too dangerous, thus weeding out the stupid children at an early age before they can grow up to be TV execs who cancel cool shows. <<Is there any way an artistically challenged little blue gargoyle such as myself can learn to draw something other than a crooked stick figure?>> I'd suggest studying anatomy, especially the skeletal and muscular systems. It's easier to draw when you have a better understanding of why things look the way they do.

Coyote> <<"Left-handed people are the only ones in their right minds!">> I've actually seen that somewhere before. It was either on a poster or a bumper sticker, but I can't remember which. << wish I could find my 22-line toilet poem>> That sounds interesting. If you find it, will you share it with us?

Deuce> Can I please have a copy of your "99 Best Things About Being Single"?

SJ> Shouldn't clones belong to whatever race they were cloned form? <<Cookie Monster will get the axe to be replaced with "Fruit Monster.">> But we all know what happens when you eat too much fruit... <<Mr. Bigglesworth>> *scene flashes through Zath's head of a classmate holding one of the fetal pigs from bio class, stroking it like a cat, and saying "look what you've done to Mr. Bigglesworth..."*

Werewolves> A month or two ago I read a book called Otherwere. If anyone's really into were-creatures they should try to track down a copy, because some of the stories are hilarious (like the one about the wereguppy). There's even one about a wolf that got bitten by a werewolf so he turns into a human every full moon. : P

**POSSIBLE WtBB SPOILERS (I guess)**
Questions about Fay in TGS> If it's possible to create a virus that adds fay genes to a human, creating a halfling, what would happen if someone made a virus that added human genes to a fay? (I smell major plot complications if it's possible) Also, was Madoc able to kill Casey so easily because he is that powerful, or do the halflings have some sort of self-destruct mechanism in them along with the magical overrides that make them obey the Unseelie and keep them from killing themselves?
**END POSSIBLE WtBB SPOILERS, AND BEGIN X-FILES SPOLIERS**
The Two-Parter> Is it just me, or when the fat guy was yelling "Back, back, back!" when the aliens showed up to torch everyone, did they really think moving back three steps and making a little circle was going to make any difference? If I had been there, I would have been the first one in that car and probably wouldn't have even waited for Cancerman before I peeled out, even if he is one of the most interesting characters on the show.
Last Night's Ep.> Why is it when ever someone gets stuck anywhere during a hurricane, there always has to be a pregnant woman who promptly goes into labor at the first sigh of trouble?
**END ALL SPOILERS**

Doug> You think the book Animal Farm was bad? Try sitting through the animated movie, then you'll know what bad truly is. <<I guess Ebert will be looking for a new partner now>> Have you seen the episode of The Critic where Siskel and Ebert got in a fight and Jay tried to become the replacement?

Ironwolf, Kitainia, and everyone else> Thanks a lot for the support, but there's just one thing... I'm not a guy.

Kyryn> <<A stream of multicolored hailstones promptly starts falling on said personage>> You don't happen to read Xanth do you?

Fleur> <<I'm afraid that sanity in the CR has moved and hasn't left a forwarding address.>> That's not true. It left an address and was promptly mail-bombed. It now resides in the ICU of some hospital, just down the hall from that guy who supposedly saw Keyser Soze. >: )

Steve Gooch> <<Once, *just* once, I'd like to see the hero say, "I can live with that," and drop the guy.>> Wasn't there a scene like that at the end of the first or second (I can't remember which) Darkman movie?

Selanit> I love Renaissance Fairs. I went to one a couple of times when I was living in Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, the only one I've heard of down here seems to be on the far side of Houston, and 2.5+ hours in the car to get anywhere is not my idea of fun. Does your ren faire have "Shakespeare's Bloody Best" or something similar where the plays have been redone to be ultra-violent? In the one I saw, they rewrote Hamlet so, among other changes, in the final scene Hamlet and Laertes started with the foils but, instead of Leartes asking for a lighter one, they both kept yelling "I need a bigger weapon!" until they ended up killing each other and everyone else on stage with giant cannons.

Speaking of Shakespeare>> I saw Shakespeare In Love last week. *there is loud booing from around the CR and Zath is forced to duck flying debris* I think there's an interesting irony in the fact that he twisted, mangled, and fabricated history to make it more entertaining, and then Hollywood goes and does the same thing to him. Also, everyone in the theater was looking at me funny, because I was cracking up during funeral scene, because it bore a strong resemblance to a certain scene in Macbeth, which made me think about someone's comment a while ago about Macbeth beating up Shakespeare, which led my mind off on such amusing tangents that I couldn't keep quiet.

jILLybEAn> <<I mean, I'm not the perkiest person on Earth...but comparing me to *DARIA*?! What a cheap shot...>> Maybe she meant you were smart and didn't feel the need to sugar-coat reality the way a lot of people seem to do.

jewel> How exactly does a Mayhole work?

Kaioto> <<What would happen to society if women had to register for ‘Selective Service’>> Not much at the moment, considering the fact that there is currently no draft. If the situation you suggest ever did occur, would it be under today’s rules (keeping women out of combat positions and such), or are you suggesting a scenario where *everyone* had an equal chance of getting shot to bits in a stinking jungle somewhere? <<I think it is very sad when one dismisses a race, ethnicity, or especially religion on the basis of a few individual members.>> I agree. If you dismissed as "evil" all the members of any group of any sort that produced a dozen idiots and a few nuts with bombs, people wouldn't even be able to talk to themselves.

Demona Taina> <<WHY DIDN'T YOU AIR TGC!?!>> Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

Poetry> I love all the poems people have posted here. I just have one tiny nitpick for SOROW. Doesn't every line of the poem have to be in iambic pentameter for it to be a Shakespearean sonnet? Oh well, I had to write a sonnet in 10th grade and I basically ended up with 14 lines (with the meter somewhat off. I too am guilty of not quite using iambic pentameter) saying "Oh, look, a pretty sunset." I guess I might as well share it with the room. Please don't laugh.

Day slowly enters its final hour,
prepared for the war of blue against black.
Two constant foes who struggle for power,
the champions clash; there's no turning back.
A primal fight of brother and brother,
great titans rage in the darkening sky.
As light and darkness battle each other
and often cause mortals to wonder why,
they both spill their blood of crimson and gold.
Night stands triumphant. Day is defeated,
while darkness advances purple and bold.
Every half turn the cycle repeated,
fixed patterns older than any age gone,
Day cleans its wounds and prepares for the dawn.

Actually, looking back at it, a lot of the lines sound like they're talking about Gargoyles or TGS in one way or another. Was my subconscious thinking of Demona and Thailog in The Reckoning when I wrote "the war of blue against black"?

Batman/Tygris> I wonder if whatever it was that they used to cure Catwoman in that episode would work on the mutates...

A "Completely Mad" Scientist> Prof. Nimnul perhaps, or does the completely mad scientist have to be a competent scientist too? I'd also suggest Dr. Fred Edison, but he's not really very mad (or particularly evil), and I'm not sure how many people know who he is.

Cheers Theme> What a weird coincidence, the girls who sit near me in Spanish class have been singing that for the past couple of days for some reason.

Villains> Does anyone think its possible to have a combination of the two types of villains, someone who thinks what they are doing is for the good of mankind and knows that the methods of their plan are "wrong" but has a lot of fun doing it anyway?

Okay, I guess that's all I have to say for now, so on with the show...

*****WARNING, PRETTY LONG PARTY RP AND MR. DC DEATH*****
**Suddenly Mr. Disconnect enters the room. Zath spots him and, making excuses, leaves the group. Shenzi and the two men continue their conversation. Zath walks up behind Mr. DC, taps him on the shoulder, and, once he turns around, jabs him in the eye (that seems to be a favorite location) with The Sharp Stick, saying "That's for destroying a week of the CR before I could read it!" Mr. DC screams and clutches his spurting socket. Zath then precedes to jab him in the other eye, saying "And, that's for not letting me post yesterday!" Mr. DC screams again and clutches his other spurting socket. Kitty, who had been wandering around the mansion chewing on leftover bits of the slaughtered Pokemons, hears the screaming, rushes over, launches herself through the air like the rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, lands on Mr. DC's chest, and sinks her teeth into his throat. Mr. DC staggers back, trying desperately to dislodge the cute but vicious feline from his windpipe and accidentally stumbles into the group Zath had been talking to just a few minutes ago. The older looking man immediately takes The Sharp Stick from Zath and begins to club Mr. DC with it while the younger man's eyes turn orange and he resorts to the old "rip pieces off with your bare hands" method. Eventually Mr. DC is torn to bits. While the two men argue over the liver, Shenzi drags away the rest of the body, except for the heart, which Zath is holding, and the head, which Kitty is still gnawing on. Zath just smiles and goes to find a soda and a hibachi.**
*****END RP AND DC DEATH*****
By the way, everyone can guess who the two guys are, right?

Bye all.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 07:39:05 PM
IP: ns8-04.viptx.net

I'm proud of you Deuce
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 07:05:50 PM
IP: dt043n30.san.rr.com

Thanx for all the kind comments on my poem. It's one of the few things I've written that still look good to me three months after the fact. :-)

One comment on "Lethe": Loved it. Every last second. I read it twice, and loved it twice. I even loved the early drafts. Hell, the OUTLINE kicked butt. This was an incredible story.

Siskel> He'll be missed, only because plain "Ebert" sounds funny.

Gentleman> I hold doors, give up seats, etc., etc... even if I don't like the person.

DumlaoX> Rules are up! Yippee! I'll polish up my primer and get it to you later this week.

Selanit> OK, but doesn't http://www.illuminati.com make Netscape die?

** leaves to go vote for Gargoyles another 10 times. :-) **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
City of Champions, Alberta, Canada
Monday, February 22, 1999 06:38:52 PM
IP: pppa74.connect.ab.ca

I hope I haven't sounded insulting. Everyone is good in their own way. I'm not perfect either. I just am purposely guliable, something not all men want to be. It doesn't matter if the female is a meanie, I act like a gentleman and open doors and would buy her a drink and stuff. I can't buy them drinks IRL but I do indeed open doors for them.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 04:52:43 PM
IP: dt043n30.san.rr.com

HELLO PEOPLE!!!

***RANDOM THOUGHT***
It sometimes gets me angry to know that the native english speakers write stories, and those that have english as second language, really don't get anywhere. My english was WAY too rusty a while ago, and I wrote stories like that. Yeah, I now realize that I can barely understand them, so I'll make them again. I have a great imagination for stories, and I won't stop just because I'm a puertorican. I was born here, raised here, and I've never visited a place outside this island. My english is good somehow, don't you think? I will ask a favor, if I spell ANYTHING wrong, please correct me. That's the way I learn!
***END RANDOM THOUGHT***

Yeah, just wanted to say that. Now, umm... what am I going to talk about today? OH YEAH! Yes, Touchstone Pictures is going to make a movie of Gargoyles, live-action, all they need is the script. They once made a script, about one gargoyle that woke up, befriended a boy, and then tried to save the world. Umm, something like that. But, just one gargoyle??? WHY!?!? Why is the movie called gargoyles if only one Gargoyle appears! The script was cancelled, of course. The guy that wrote ID4 will write the script for the movie, and I hope it doesn't turn out like Godzilla. Imagine, Goliath destroying buildings, laying eggs, eating tons of people, destroying choppers, and coming out of the water roaring and scaring the hell off people! [laughs] GO GOLIATH! GO!!! [throws a kiss] LOVE YA!!!

Who in here can draw Goliath? He's so hard, isn't he? I've been trying to draw Goliath for four long years! At first, he always turned out small, ugly, with a big butt, he barely had a chest, and the face looked horrible! [shudders at the thought] Now he looks somewhat like him, and sometimes, I SAID SOMETIMES, he looks handsome! [smiles romantically] The way he is... [giggles]

I have Gargoyles taped in two languages. Spanish and english. I have 7 tapes in spanish, 6 in english. Just 6, because the USA Network stopped airing it before I could tape the last episodes... [growls] In spanish they are complete, and in english... [glares at the USA Network] chopped... [snarls] HOW COULD YOU CHOP MY FAVORITE PARTS!?! HOW COULD YOU CHOP OUT EVRYTHING I LIKED!?! HOW COULD YOU STOP AIRING IT BECAUSE OF BLOOMBERG TELEVISION!!!! [shrieks, gets a mace] You will pay... [growls, hits the channel with the mace] Oh, and before I forget... WHY DIDN'T YOU AIR TGC!?!?!?!?! [hits the channel with the mace, not willing to stop]

[breathes heavily, hits the channel again, groans, throws the mace] Let that be a lesson for you... Of course, don't take me wrong, I like that channel. They air Xena and Hercules, WCW, Dog championships and stuff. What I didn't like was Gargoyles' taken away...

[walks over to the couch, scrolls down] I wanted to be first!!! [bursts out crying] But I had to go to my mom's house, so, no net... oh, well. Next time I will be. [smiles]

Also, click my name for some of my art!

Ummm... [hits her head] Nope, nothing else in mind. Until next time! LOVE YA! BYE-BYE! [clicks the submit button]
Demona Taina - [Demona3@hotmail.com]
Ponce, Puerto Rico
Monday, February 22, 1999 04:16:56 PM
IP: gateway2.caribe.net

**Kyryn looks in**

I decided to change pics since Sylvia's started posted with Nudnik and a color similar to mine.


***SEMI-SPOILERS!***

Two comments about Lethe: 1)ROTFLMAO.

2) Doug: Demona wasn't necessarily unconscious. The brain can simply blank out and continue performing actions: a sort of 'automatic pilot'. The conscious mind simply can't deal with the trauma and blocks the memories. They are usually still there, and can possibly be recalled under hypnosis. This is especially true under stress-induced traumatic situations. I know, because I had this happen to me once.

**END OF SEMI-SPOILERS**

Beautiful Pics and Poems folks.

Artists and self-criticism> Yep, its true. Hey, I can draw great dragons and a few other critters. My humans still suck rocks, although I keep working on them.

Robby> You're right. You do find yourself watching everything in reference to drawing. *l*

Later,

**Kyryn disappears**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Monday, February 22, 1999 03:45:54 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86

Doug, Kitana, and Kaioto. I suppose I should have specified that pure gentleman are rare. They are many like you peoples who are gentleman/scoundrels. I'm not saying I'm pure of heart or anything. I just never curse, lie, or am sarcastic. I believe in a ying/yang theory. IRL when people insult me or whatever I avoid the fight by mumbling "And people wonder why I hate people" making them laugh since I am a person as well. I say that or insult them back with other genereal phrases that include myself like "Yeah whatever Earthling!" or "Yeah you wish Human!". They laugh at me but at least I don't get me butt kicked. A gentleman like myself is wise enough to know that defeating evil means avoiding the temptation of resulting to violence. My logic skills keep me sane in this insane world known as modern day Earth.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 03:12:14 PM
IP: sdcoe206-96.out.sdcoe.k12.ca.us

***TGS Spoiler ***

I loved this ep. The writing was snappy, and had me laughing on several occasions. The art was terrific, and the developments in Demona's character are fascinating. She might be redeemable at that. Mind you it's going to take an *awful* lot of redeeming before she can rejoin the clan, but at least it would seem to be possible.

Having said that, I have one quibble. Xanatos and the clan reasoned that in order to break the spell they needed to eliminate all light in the city, even if only for a moment. Query: what are the odds that no one in the entire city was using a flashlight or having a romantic candlelight dinner at the moment of the power outage? Hmm, I've got to work this out . . . . let's see, 14 million people by an estimated 1.745 flashlights apiece by 2.53 candles apiece . . . well, it's pretty vast, but it's not infinite. So that's my only quibble -- the clan must have used up all of their luck for the next century or so restoring Demona to her oh-so-delightful self.

*** End Spoiler ***

Hey, I was tooling about in the datasphere the other day, and I typed in http://www.illuminati.org/ on a lark. Netscape reported that it could not find the server (obviously), and Internet Explorer comitted a fatal system error rather than let me see what it found. Of course, the Illuminati wouldn't be *that* stupid. I was still in a strange mood, so I returned to Netscape and punched in http://www.illuminati.com/ instead of .org.

Guess what?

Click my name! <G>
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Ballpitria, Monday, February 22, 1999 02:09:56 PM
IP: educ-its209.colorado.edu

*gold robot runs into the CR, doing an Alpha-5 impression* Aiii-yiiii-yiiii-yiii-yi! The Gargies are only at 78% in the USA weekend poll! Vote now and vote often!

*Gets a little more serious* Mandi, you know this is because I read your MMPR fanfic last night, so I choose to blame my state of mind on ya. :) But I did love the Billy and Trini stories.

Real post later after I've read everything posted since Saturday. Till all are one!
Wavelength
Monday, February 22, 1999 02:02:52 PM
IP: networka.miseri.edu

BTW, the index page on the main site has a few links to the comment room archive and the illustrated quotes up. While the comment room archive is working (though it needs updating) the illustrated quotes isn't quite ready yet. Give me some time and it'll get ready soon.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, February 22, 1999 01:12:12 PM
IP: clsc-pc-12.clicc.ucla.edu

Commentary on TGS - Lethe *** You’ve been warned***

*Bows formally* Bene, mucha bene. Hard to express exactly how good this was in words. The art was great. I found CraZyDemona’s web page a while ago. It impressed me. When I heard she was doing the art for this episode, I was rather expectant. Might I say she certainly did not disappoint.

The artistry of the pictures certainly did not take anything away from the beauty of the writing either. It was a story that I think we expected would come sooner or later. Evidently, the fans were not the only people waiting its coming. The care and effort shines through. The lines of prose flowed and collaborated with my imagination to paint vivid pictures and crystal mindscapes. I can only thank the staff for something that enjoyable to read. It has been a while since I’ve found something like that.

Thinking about the idea of erasing someone’s memory. I like how this was done. How she acted shows that Demona is more than the sum of her memories, but that the life she leads is merely influenced by the pain she feels from them. I find that the idea that people are the sum of their memories is as much half-truth as the idea that life is merely made up of moments of time. I would still say, however, that I wouldn’t want anyone playing around with my mind or even just the brain.

**End commentary on TGS related stuff**

Gentlemen: I try to be as much of one as I can without causing negative waves. Being overly chivalrous or polite in the wrong circumstances is unwise, and just because someone is a woman does not mean we should go in around with kid gloves on. Equal opportunity for both good and bad is my philosophy.

Question of the Day: What would happen to society if women had to register for ‘Selective Service’ (aka the ‘Civilized’ Death Lottery) ?

Evil Guys in Catholic School (Small Rant): Hm … has someone had an unfortunate experience with religion? : ) I find many of my friends have negative leanings against religion and spirituality in general. I went to a Jesuit school (Kitainia: the chemistry and bio programs were good enough to get the majority of people through Advanced Placement) and I have to admit that I met many people who understandibly chafed badly. However, I would like to note that maybe like three brainwashed conformist folks came out with my graduating class. Oddly enough, they seemed to be the ones that disappointed the clergy and the faculty. I found that much more often, the truly brainwashed and unthinking ones were the masses of anti’s that the school produced. That is sad. Not only have they forsaken independant thinking about the spiritual for reflexive negative reactions and rationalizations, but they abandonned much of the moral ideas and responsibilities because they wished to disrespect the authority they felt repressed by.

I think it is very sad when one dismisses a race, ethnicity, or especially religion on the basis of a few individual members. Catholicism is a religion which spans millions of individuals across the globe. If we were to even compare parishes from say Italy with those in America were would see dramatic contrast, even parish to parish in my own state of the Union the differences are plane. The reason is very simple. A global community is more than just the product of a theological bureaucracy. The thing the sets religion apart from a government is that its members have are bound together by common ideals and fundamental principles. Members do not agree about every aspect of dogma or even all the policies, what they do agree on is that thing are not so bad that they need to abandon ship. If the Church were perfect, or its members were all brain-washed, there would never be reform.

Thought of the Day: The point is not to worship the institution or idol, for they are flawed constructs of Man. True religion is pursute of an ideal, not just understanding, but making it manifest in the world about you.

Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 01:10:57 PM
IP: 141.133.122.73

CR RULES-- Been a long time coming but they are up. Right now, check them out in the Disclaimer section of the website. Doug, Kitania, I have a feeling I'm missing a few rules. If I am, please let me know. Thanx.

Till next time...
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Monday, February 22, 1999 01:05:34 PM
IP: clsc-pc-12.clicc.ucla.edu

Reminder -- Avalon Mists Deadline is Wednesday 2/24/99! Don't delay, submit today! ; ) E-mail them to me at vecna@eskimo.com.

Lethe! Finally! I was privileged to sneak a few advance peeks of this one in progress; got to see what the final, polished version looks like!

Basilisks -- I remember them, cute li'l suckers! ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 12:29:06 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Brooklyn> Yes this is what Posh Spice is going to call her child (been in all the newspapers this weekend). They are saying it's because of where he was concieved, but I'm not so sure. Scary Spice can often be seen wearing an identical metal arm bracelet to Demona's (really).

Could they be secret Gargoyles fans ??? :)

Matt Dymond - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKMonday, February 22, 1999 11:19:49 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

****TGS SPOILERS****
Lethe: The most entertaining episode in a while. The illustrations were also excellent. The scene in which Angela electocutes Demona and then attempts to perform CPR seems a little odd. Did she just forget that Demona was immortal in her panic?
****END SPOILERS****

5 movies>Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World
Star Trek: First Contact
Independance Day
Men in Black

5 books: The lord of the Rings
WorldWar series(Harry Turtledove - Aliens invade during World War II)
TGS condensed into one volume
The Hobbit
Calvin and Hobbes: The days are just packed

5 CD's>DC Talk: Jesus Freak
DC Talk: Supernatural
Delerio5?: Cutting Edge (2 CD's)
4 Him: The Message
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, February 22, 1999 11:10:12 AM
IP: 216.66.128.233

Great episode this week! Drama, chracter exploration and humor. All in all makes Monday worthwhile.
Also, my hat goes off to CrzyDemona for the art - Demona with her hair in a scrunchie. :-)
Thanks to all involved with this episode. It was well worth the time to read it and then some.
Trey - [pleissez@aol.com]
Jackson, MS, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 10:31:30 AM
IP: stargate.mtel.com

I just heard something somewhat interesting on the radio. Apparently one of the Spice Girls, I don't know which one, is pregnant and plans on naming her kid Brooklyn.
TheOneEyedSquid - [Sigma28@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 08:45:47 AM
IP: spider-to034.proxy.aol.com

MALIBU> That's a sweet picture.
SOROW, GABRIEL, and DEUCE> Thanks for sharing some of your talent with us!
CHRISTINE> Yes, that's the episode! Thanks!
SPIKE> *whistles* those are doodles? I'd love to see the finished product!
LeXington> Welcome to the CR, and feel free to 'discuss' any internet problems you have with Mr. Dis Connect.

Does anyone remember those basilisk things in 'Signs and Portents'? Wonder when they're going to show up again...

Okay, here's my contribution to the list of Gargoyle songs:
In a New York minute,
Everything can change.
In a New York minute,
Things can get pretty strange!
---The Eagles, 'New York Minute' chorus

***JIM'S PARTY!***
(Argent uncovers ears cautiously, and a much cleaner Jewel*D does the same.)
"Well, there's something you don't see- " (Argent is interrupted by Jewel*D's low whine as she catches sight of the latest party crashers.)
"Zurcido! Fine time for the shields to give out!"
(Brain makes his announcement, ending with-)
"SHE'LL hurt you."
(Argent's eyes narrow, and a half-smirk appears.)
"Looks like this party's gonna go out with a bang. Up for another round Jewel*D?"
(The draco chitters assent.)
***LATER!***

Gotta Jet!
(Seven months 'till the new 'Dark Ages' eps!)
Argent
Ohio, USA
Monday, February 22, 1999 07:01:12 AM
IP: dyn008-nas02.marietta.frognet.net

**LET'S DO SOME MORE RP, SHALL WE?**

The screen comes on, revealing the Dark Star control room. Agent Rho and several guards are walking in, Wilek's team just behind. Wilek sits down and hands the Administrator a disk. "Put that in the machine, will ya?" he asks her. "Gubio gave it to me, it's a big upgrade he designed for our defense systems. The man may be fat and slightly effeminent, but he is such a computer whiz." Wilek flashes the Admin a sly grin, as she looks slightly confused but still slides in the diskette. Agent Rho, looking pensive, turns to Dark Mage Wilek. "Excuse me," he says, "what happened to those eagles of yours? I don't see them with you." "I got rid of them," DMW replies. "Got sick of having to feed the beasts." "Oh," Rho says, his voice getting even more suspicious. "I understand." Elsewhere in the station, Miriam finds a deserted corner, takes out a device emblazoned with nuclear symbols, and starts setting it up while chuckling to herself in a way the real Miriam would never do. Uh oh.

The screen changes to the roof of the Nero's Palace Casino, where Kitainia is just gliding down. She smiles at seeing all the other Ravens alive and well. "Kitainia!" Tom greets her, enthusiastically running up as she lands. "Your friends just finished bringing me up to date on what you've been doing. Now I know you aren't demon-possesed." "That's great, Tom," Kitainia tells the engineer. She turns to Doug. "I see you disarmed their explosives." "Yeah," Doug says, pointing at Tom. "He helped us." "Thank you," Kitainia tells the engineer. "I'm sure everyone in Las Vegas appreciates your change of heart." "Look," Tom says, "I owe all you guys an apology. I was on the wrong side, so was Jerry. We nearly killed a bunch of innocent people, just because we'd been duped. Stephanie convinced me of this, I was an idiot to trust Jerry and Galante. I want to make amends for my part in their plans, I want to help you take Thailog and the Bishop down. Can you accept me?" Kitainia looks at the Ravens, especially the beaming Stephanie and the worried-looking Keith. Shap smiles when her gaze settles on him. "He's sincere," the paladin points at Tom. "My detect lie sense isn't going off." "That works for me," Doug says. "Welcome to the Black Ravens, Tom. Hope you like it here." "I'll try," the engineer says. "My skills, both in fighting and chemistry, are fully at your disposal." Kitainia nods. "Good. Happy to have you with us." Tom's smile widens, as does Stephanie's. Doug shakes his head slowly and turns to face the CR.

**PAUSE RP**

First of all, I better do something terrible. <sees DC and grabs him> This is for cutting me off in the middle of my last post, which did the above scene so much better. <pulls out DC's brain out with a pair of tweezers, and then feeds it to a large Chulthu-like creature standing nearby> Never do that again!

Okay, on to the real post. Hope I can remember everything.

Gentlemen: I like being one of these, and being a scoundrel. People appreciate both in the right situations, you just have to know which to use when. I like to think of myself as the best of both types. When I'm around women, being a gentleman is of course generally best. Unless of course they want me to be otherwise. <evil grin>

Heather: Thanks for posting the great Arianna pic. I like her pose!

Lexy: My e-mail is frostfire@mail.utexas.edu. It's right next to my name on all my posts, in case you haven't noticed. Thanks for the offer, and I look forward to hearing the songs.

FT Lex: Welcome to the CR. Not sure what "Tainted Love" has to do with Fox and Lexington after "Thrill of the Hunt," but thanks anyway for posting the great music.

Coyote: Really enjoyed your new fic. I liked the plot, character development, and all the scenes. Can't wait for next week's, and of course WCC. Also, thanks for the decal ideas. Kitainia and I would appreciate it if you made one of the dragon Jadriel for her motorbike. Check out my fic "The Blackout" to get a description of him. His quote should probably be something like "Your power is nothing when matched with mine!" If you can't make it, that's okay, too, but we'd really like to have it.

Speaking of Jadriel, I will give a cyber-cookie to anyone who can tell me where I got his human alias's last name. No, it's not from Jadriel itself. It's from a videogame character who I based a lot of Jadriel's personality on. The cookie goes to whoever can name the game. Good luck to all participants.

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR THE NEW EP**

Lethe: Kitainia already said just about everything I wanted to, so I won't bother repeating her praise. I just want to say I really liked all the character development in this episode, as well as the plot and pictures. Demona needed this lightening-up, and I'm glad she retained her memories of her time as a human in mind as well as body. I look forward to seeing more results of it in her life and feelings towards humans. The development on her in this episode was all great. So was that on Angela, Goliath, Elisa, Darien, and Brooklyn. I gave this ep 9.5/10, can't wait till the next one (which I'm sure will also be great!).

Just one small nitpick. How did Demona get home after she conked out on that roof the first time she glided? I refuse to believe she glided home instinctively in her sleep, no way anybody could do that. Or maybe it's possible. I don't know. I just wish the writers had clarified a little better how she got home, like they should have done for what happened to Lex in "When the Bough Breaks" after Madoc knocked him unconscious. Did the Unseelie just walk off and leave him there (obviously, since he's still with the clan), or what? Hope these points get clarified soon, other than that both are good episodes. Definitely worth staying up for. Keep up the great work, TGS Staff!

**SPOILERS ARE OVER, YOU CAN LOOK NOW**

SJ: Nope, not gonna do it. Thanks for your recommendation, though. It was a creativity demon, no more. I just can't see myself judging movies using my thumb. :)

Steve: Thanks for the Slater stories info. I'll look for them next time I go to a bookstore. The Austin area has many, surely one will have the novels you mentioned. I look forward to perusing them. <grin>

Okay, that's all for now. Good night, or good morning, I guess, since it is that time. Later.

**RP AGAIN, THIS ONE'S LONG (Note to Traveler- you can do whatever you want with Jaden after this one. Just remember to follow the RP rules and clear it with him first. And Wilek, if I were you, I'd get to the Dark Star quickly, so you can stop from happening the events we discussed)**

"Say, where is Jerry, anyway?" Tom asks as Doug turns back to the group. "Didn't you go after him, Kitainia?" "I caught up to him," Kitainia answers. "I tried talking sense into Jerry, and he was listening for a while. Then he tried to kill me. I was forced to throw him off the building, he jumped through a portal and got away." "Oh," Tom says. "Well, I hope he's okay. I'm worried about him." Kitainia nods. "You aren't the only one." "For now," Doug suggests, "let's forget Jerry. We stopped his plan to blow up Las Vegas, now we have more pressing concerns. Namely, finding Traveler. It looks like he's been financing the enemy." "Yeah," says Shauna. "We gotta find that lousy traitor before he transfers Thailog any more funds." "Back to the hotel," Doug says. "I'm pretty sure he's in there. One of my feelings, you know? Lathrop, I want you to scry for him, too. Let's all keep an eye out. We're not leaving Las Vegas until we're sure he's not here." The Ravens all nod and step through a portal Lathrop opens, returning to the hotel. Jaden and Fleur follow, Stephanie and Tom bringing up the rear. "So you're on our side, now?" Kitainia's sister asks Tom as they reenter the hotel. "Yes," Tom says. "Trust me, Steph, if I had known what the Bishop was mixed up in, I would never have trusted, let alone obeyed him." "I believe you," Stephanie says. "I think most of the others do, too. The ones who don't will come around." "I hope so," Tom sighs. "Now come on, let's find this Traveler guy." The Ravens once again begin searching the hotel, Tom now helping them. Inside, he prays for his friend Jerry, hoping he's okay.

The screen changes to Thailog's secret base, where Jerry appears out of one of Guod's portals. "Where am I?" he asks, looking around at all the techno-gadgets. "You're in our sanctuary," Bishop Galante answers, stepping out of the dark. "I had a friend of mine save you from death." "Thank you, Bishop," Jerry nods, kneeling before his master. "I'm afraid the Ravens foiled our plan to destroy Las Vegas. The City of Sin still stands, they captured Tom and defused our explosives." "No matter," a sibilant voice speaks out of the dark. "They will soon meet their fates." "Who..." Jerry begins, and then the speaker steps forward, causing him to gasp. "..am I?" Asil finishes. "I'm Kitainia, the real Kitainia. I guess you've met my demon clone." "Demon clone?" Jerry asks, staring at Asil and trembling. "Yes," Asil laughs. "Doug and the others tried to change me to a demon, like them. They used that warlock Lathrop to summon a fiend, and that geneticist Sevarius Jr. to transform my body. The fiend tried to enter me, but my soul was too strong. They had to make a soulless clone of me to serve as a vessel for the demon, it serves them even now." "I knew she was trying to decieve me," Jerry says, believing Asil's claims. "She's changed, she's not the Kitainia I knew. I don't know if you are, either, but at least you're on the side I think Kitainia would be on if she was herself." "Yes," Galante says. "She's on the side of God. I found her a few days ago, wandering lost and alone. I brought her here, to the sanctuary of God's chosen, to fight with us against those who challenge his commands." "You are one of those who will fight with us, Jerry," Asil asks, "are you not?" Jerry nods and smiles proudly. "Of course I am." He takes Asil's taloned hand. "I don't care what they did to you, they will pay. And we'll change you back, I swear it." "I don't want to go back," Asil tells him. "This form better allows me to fight God's battles. I am an angel now, Jerry, an angel of death." "Fine," Jerry says with a smile. "As long as you're my angel." He gets up and embraces Asil, feeling happy to have his girlfriend back in his arms. Asil grins and returns his embrace, staving off cruel chuckles. "Don't worry, baby," she tells Jerry. "Once again, I am going to make your life so good."

**END THIS VERY CHILLING RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, February 22, 1999 04:40:30 AM
IP: hil-c45-005-vty155.as.wcom.net

**LET'S START OFF WITH A SLIGHTLY LONG RP**

Fleur has just pulled off the bomb's detonater, but the countdown, though delayed a few more minutes by Fleur's action, is still progressing. Everyone is looking at Keith and Gubio, who are still trying to disarm. Everyone except for Tom, that is, who is staring at Stephanie and waiting for an explanation. "You have to understand, Tom," Steph tells her old friend. "Galante's an evil Catholic zealot. Doug, tell Tom what he did to your old high school." Doug gives Tom a brief summary and then adds that Galante tried to do the same to Doug's old elementary school, making them have to use a millionaire friend to buy him out. Tom's face blanches as he listens. "I hate Christian schools," he says. "They don't do anything for chemistry, and the biology situation is even worse. But that doesn't make me think the Bishop's a baddie." "He's also tried to kill us a few times," Doug says, "with bodyguards, bombs, and giant robots." "So? You're demon-posessed! Jerry said that, and part of me believes him!" "Demon-posessed?" Stephanie asks. "Haven't you been watching the news lately? We've saved Austin, San Antonio, Santa Fe, Albuquerque, and Colorado Springs from bad guys, including in one instance the legions of hell! Do you think demon lackeys would do that?" "Maybe, to build up their credibility, I don't know." Stephanie rolls her eyes. "Tom, Tom, Tom. Don't you get it? The Bishop gave you and Jerry no time to get away from a bomb you didn't know was really dangerous! He's working for an evil gargoyle clone named Thailog who's plotting to take over the world. Stop trusting that idiot Jerry, start trusting me! This tape will prove I'm right." She holds up her Walkman and presses a button. The radio emits Galante's voice, the Bishop laughing about how he'll become Pope and make Fundamentalist Catholicism the only legal religion when he and Thailog rule the world. Tom drops his jaw. "No way!" "Way," says Jammer. "You been used, pal. Now you gonna tell us how to disarm the bomb or die with the rest of us? You have fifteen seconds." Tom thinks for two seconds, then grabs the bomb and keys in a code, stopping the countdown. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

The screen changes to Kitainia, who is pursuing the quickly Jerry and dodging his shots. As she does so, she turns to post in the CR.

**PAUSE RP**

Sorry I haven't been by in a while. Too much damn studying lately. But at least it'll be over after the test sweeps this week. Until the next round. I think I'm ready, on to replies.

Deuce: Congrats on meeting a Net friend. I hope you two have a great future.

Thanks again to everyone who's supported my take on the Ms. Masi situation. I will definitely use as much of your advice as I reasonably can (that's about all of it). How glad I am to have friends like all of you.

Jewel: Glad your job interview went well, good luck getting the position. Thanks for sharing your Bryn Mawr experiences, I enjoyed reading about them. Too bad I didn't go there myself, it sounds like a very fun place. (But if I had, I'd never have met Doug, so no worries.) UT is an interesting college too, but the parties here get nowhere near as wild as the ones you've described at BM. That's probably due to all the club bouncers and frat chaperones. We'll have to invite a few local frats and sororities to the bra party Gubio is planning to host soon, that will change things. I know just how to send out the invites, too. Good thing Gubio's recently bought a big safe so he can hide all his valuables, I think he's getting less paranoid. His netfriend from Jordan could also have something to do with it, he's changed a lot since he started getting daily e-mails from her. He doesn't let anybody else read them, though. I wonder why. Oh well, at least he's settled down enough to let us host a big fun party at his house during spring break. It should be fun. :)

Steve: I agree with you about Hunt for Red October. Cool book, but the movie was also excellent. Especially Baldwin's preformance and the timing they gave the sub fights. Thanks for the thermonuke site, I enjoyed looking over it. BTW, if you like badass "destroy so-and-so and anybody that stands in my way" attitude people going all-out with their madness, you should read Doug's next fic. Just about the whole plot of it concerns one. :) I also think I'll be checking out Slater's fics if I can find them. Maybe Half-Price Books or Amazon.com can help the three of us. <fingers crossed>

DumlaoX: Oh, I know the problems cops can give you too well. Especially since I'm living with a guy who wants to be one. Doug'd be perfect for the job, IMHO. He's tough, has a good and open mind, is very observant, and knows the law better than some attorneys we've encountered. Plus he can recite the Miranda rights from memory, how many cops can do that? I look forward to helping him cope with any bad crimes he gets involved in stopping, like hostage situations or domestic disputes. He'll also refer people who get involved in crime problems to me, of course, so I can help them sort out their feelings and emotions. I guess I could be useful to families this way. As for my own experiences with cops (that have happened), I've gotten many tickets in my life. Mostly for speeding. Once for cutting off a speeding ambulance that didn't have its lights or siren turned on (I went to court over that, and lost. Had to pay a big fine). But nothing serious, just annoying stuff. Good luck in your own case.

Heather, Robby: Great pictures. Thanks for posting them. Same to you, Spike.

Thanks also to all the people who have posted songs and poems. I enjoyed reading each and every one of them. Especially the ones from Lexy and Deuce.

Women's Privliege (sp?): Oh yes, I know that all too well. And I use it often on Doug to find out about his fanfic. Not that he minds telling me, he enjoys using me as a sounding board and all. You other fans will love what he has planned for the next story (if a tree falls on Sameer and only Seth hears it, but he didn't pay attention, did it happen? <grin>). He'll get it out soon, don't worry. Till then, we shall tease.

GXB: Sounds like you're planning a lot of fun at the Gathering. Too bad I already have a costume lined up, or I'd be willing to dress as Sekhmet. Oh well, maybe next year. As for whether we're going, I think Doug answered your question. He and I are in all probability heading down there. Not sure about the rest of the Ravens. They all have planned costumes, though, if they do go. Boris and Elena want to dress as Coyote 4.0 and Hyena, Gubio as Lex, Jammer and Tricia as Matt and Sara, Keith as Vogel, Shap as Thailog, Shauna as Beth Maza, and Stephanie as the Banshee. I'd get a different person lined up to play your Court's Banshee if I could, though. My sister's not entirely sure she's going to come. Your idea sounds like a lot of fun. I look forward to seeing it. And of course, meeting you and everyone else here. :)

Peter, FT Lex: Welcome to the CR.

Gene Siskel's death: I bet if Ebert gets a new co-host, it will probably be either a woman or a minority person. Hollywood seems to be going towards them these days. As for Siskel, I am sad to see him go. I enjoyed reading his reviews of movies. I almost always went to see a picture he and Ebert gave two thumbs up. His opinion will be missed greatly. Hope he enjoys the afterlife, whatever it is for him. That's all I have to say about that.

Christine: Okay, 20 years. Let's see if you get better. Speaking of which, any progress on selling the publishers the rest of the CotSB trilogy yet?

Gentlemen: I appreciate them a lot myself. Especially ones that aren't also pompous a-holes. You wouldn't believe how many guys I've met like that. As for men who are sarcastic, cuss, or slightly dishonest, I think they can be gentlemen, too. Gentleman scoundrels. Doug's one of those. Needless to say, I find them the most interesting and exciting kind of man. :)

Lexy: Doug's e-mail is frostfire@mail.utexas.edu. If you look, it's right next to his name on any of his posts. Sorry if I sound patronizing. :P

**BEGIN COYOTE'S FIC SPOILERS**

Coyote: Hope your eye's feeling better. I really enjoyed your latest fic, even if there were few threads leading up to it in earlier episodes. I was wondering why Samson was so old! Great job on the plot and character development. I liked what was done with Demona, Samson (hope he'll be good again now), and Puck. The last scene with Thorne also had me ROFLMAO. Great job on developing her character. I look forward to next week's episode, thanks for the entertainment on this one. BTW, you made any more progress on getting those WCC pics scanned? Just curious.

**THESE SPOILERS END, LET'S START SOME FOR THE NEW EPISODE**

Lethe: First let me say that I really liked the character devlopment on Demona and Angela in this episode. I could feel the emotions streaming off them very well. I especially enjoyed Demona under the spell Angela put on her. Poetic justice, hah! I loved her reaction when she assumed her true form, it made me laugh out loud to see her thinking from a human's perspective. The pic of her reaction is also great.

I also liked the development on Andrea, the scenes with her and Demona had great dialogue. Demona's reaction to wearing her usual attire was also well-drawn and -portrayed. I know a man who got his motor running thanks to Crzy's pic! <elbows Doug in the ribs and grins, Doug smiles sheepishly>

Demona's reaction to seeing Angela's gargoyle form and Angela's when she realized what her spell had caused to happen were also done nicely. And the clan's reaction to it, along with Owen's and how they all helped Demona after Angela admitted what she did, were very well-done. Overall, the plot of this episode was just great.

So Graeme is playing Mario Bros., huh? That's good, I'm glad the Armadillos aren't his only cartoon love. And that conversation he and Ari had over the game reminded me of many Doug and I have had in similar situations. :) I also love their take on Demona. Thanks for developing them further, TGS Staff!

Good development on Goliath and Elisa, too. I like how they're both calming down as far as hating Demona. I also enjoyed reading the scene where Angela confided in Elisa. The character development on her in this episode was nice and wonderfully done. I loved Brooklyn's, Goliath's, Sata's, and Matt's reactions to her disguise.

As for Xanatos, he was also well-developed. I liked Demona's reactions as she wondered around his building, especially when she saw Angela frozen in stone. Fox was well-developed, too. I enjoyed her reaction to finding the hidden book of spells.

Angela's nightmare was also very chilling. I liked her reaction to it, and how she was motivated afterwards to confess to the clan. Goliath and the others' reactions were just as I thought they'd be and very well-written. Good job.

I also enjoyed the development on Coldstone and Coldfire, it was great seeing them again. And the idea for a power blackout coinciding with Doug's latest fic, once again the Gargoyles Fans Collective Unconscious is at work. The pic of Demona at work on a computer also made me LOL. Good job on it, Crzy.

Demona's 'gliding lesson' was also written well, and I liked the scene where she helped beat up the Yakuza goons. Great action in there, by the way. I especially enjoyed Demona's reaction afterwards to what they had done, and Angela's response to it. Their fight before the brief blackout was also done well.

But more than all this, I enjoyed seeing how Demona became after she got her memories back. Still a b&^*h, but also letting her nice side out. That's good. I was also ROFLMAO at what she and Angela did to that creep Darien, who deserved every bit of it. Hah!

All in all, a 9/10 star ep. Good job, TGS Staff. I look forward to the next one.

**SPOILERS ARE OVER, REALLY**

Traveler: $ After Doug's next post, feel free to jump in anytime. We'll be waiting for you. $

That's all for tonight. Must sleep, later.

**RP AGAIN, THIS ONE'S ALSO LONG**

"Jerry!" Kitainia shouts at the man firing at her. "It's me you're shooting at here, Kitainia! Don't you recognize me?" "Shut up, demon!" Jerry screams, coming to a stop and spraying bullets at her until his machine gun clicks dry. Kitainia avoids the volley, then pulls down beside him and lands. "Jerry," she begs, looking as earnest as she can. "I just want to talk to you. Please. I'm not a demon. I had this done to me genetically, so I could fly and more effectively fight bad guys. Plus, doesn't it look cool?" Jerry glares at her, shock spreading across his face. "You made yourself look like a demon?" he asks, coming to his senses. "Why? Kit, your body's a temple. God created it perfectly, you didn't have to change it. Why did you?" "God's creations always perfect?" Kitainia asks. "That's crazy, Jerry. God's not like that. He's always improving on his creations in whatever way he can. How else do you explain evolution?" "Evolution doesn't exist, Lisa. It's just a stupid theory dreamed up by scientists who refuse to believe the truth." "Oh, fine, ignore all the evidence for it." Kitainia rolls her eyes. "Look, Jerry, no demon did this. I paid money to have it done to me. Everyone else in my life has learned to appreciate it, my friends even like it. Especially Doug. You'd be surprised at how handy a tail can be in romance." "Doug?" Jerry asks. "The Bishop told me about that guy. Look, I know how he pressured you into changing yourself. And he put in a demon in you in the process. Don't deny it, Kit, it's there. I know it is. I'm sure because the Bishop told me, and God told him." "You think God speaks through Bishop Galante?" Kitainia asks. "I hate to tell you this, but Galante's just another bigtime religious zealot. He's working with a group of terrorists that want to conquer the world." "That's crazy, Kit. Those demon-posessed friends of yours are putting the wrong ideas in your head. They made you change your form, destroying God's perfect creation, and now they're turning you against him. They're the demons, not the Bishop. I have to believe it." "No, you don't. Come back with me. The others can prove what I'm saying. You have to come back." "No!" Jerry snaps, pulling his arm from her grasp. "You come back with me! The Bishop can find some way to fix you, change you back. I'll make him do it, Kitainia. God doesn't want you this way." "I can't know what God wants for me, Jerry," Kitainia says. "Neither can you. Each of us can only do what we feel to be right in our hearts, and hope it gives us a good end. That's the most important choice we have in life, if not the only one. I've made my decision, I'm doing what I know is right. I cannot go with you." "Then I'm sorry to have to do this," Jerry says, shoving Kitainia down hard.

The half-garg looks at him in surprise, even as Jerry reloads his gun and points it at her. "Good bye, Kitainia," Jerry says, planting a foot on her chest to keep her down. "I'll always love you." "Jerry!" Kitainia sighs sadly, pushing up with her body and throwing him off the building as she leaps up. Jerry screams a curse as he falls, his gun firing wildly. Kitainia rushes to the side of the building, looking down after him. One of Guod's portals opens before she can jump to save Jerry, and he falls into it. "Fine," Kitainia sighs in exasperation, her features going into a sad and disappointed expression. "Save your dupe-boy! I now know I probably can't." She takes off and flies back toward the Nero's Palace casino, her expression betraying her heavy heart.

**END THIS LONG AND VERY EMOTIONAL RP**
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 03:16:51 AM
IP: dal-qbu-zoi-vty17.as.wcom.net

Hey all again,

SJ > Must... correct... Patton quote...

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his." -Gen. George S Patton

Sorry. I'm a stickler. :)

Fleur > <and my knowledge of nukes is even less> Very simple actually. Detonator, wires, sphere. Sphere is layered, like a gobstopper. Center is plutonium. Next layer is uranium. Top layer is high explosive. Detonator sends signal down wires, all charges detonate simultaneously, forcing uranium to compress plutonium and reach critical mass. Don't be with 12 miles when that happens, depending on yield.

Sorry, just think that everybody should know that :)

--End crash-course in nuclear warhead engineering--

***Spoilers for "Lethe"***

Well well, look who we haven't seen in a while. :) I love Demona eps, even if she hasn't been her old self in TGS. No offense, but I just loved the "destroy all of humanity and anybody that stands in my way" badass attitude she had throughout the show.

Excellent reaction scenes when Demona transforms. I wrote a couple of these a while ago, and they now pale in comparison.

<Owen frowned. "It appears that our systems are in need of another upgrade."> Hehehe. This happens almost *too* often. :)

Ah, and Coldstone and Coldfire, haven't heard from them since "Reunions."

<"I agree," Goliath said. "But the others are right as well. What if we do restore her to as she was before, but before she gives up her vendetta against humanity, she causes the death of more innocents? Can any of us bear the responsibility for that?"> The great moral dilemma: Do we go back to the status quo, back to "normal," and risk further suffering, or do we not change a thing in the hopes that the situation will get better? Goliath picked the former, as I probaly would have given the situation. Given the choice of two evils, I'll usually go with the one I know. It's more predictable.

<Elisa fumed. "Goliath, you aren't actually considering this, are you?"> Boy, I just noticed she says this a LOT. ever since "Vows."

And what is this? Broadway's got a beeper? Hahahahahaha! I just find this hilarious for some strange reason.

<She listened hard to his words. Then it all made sense! He was giving them battle plans! He was going to use them to do all his dirty work!> ...*Again.* :)

Overall, an excellently-crafted episode. Terrific job all around. Engaging story, beautiful artwork, everything we could ask for. "Lethe" is definitely going up on my "Best of TGS" list.

***End Spoilers***

Doug > Definitely check out Slater's stuff. They're all paperbacks, and pretty tough to find, but they're cheap and good reads. The only problems I had were 1) occasional innaccuracies, and 2) repetition. #1 is really nothing, I'd just get a little peeved when he'd write about F-117s and F-15s launching from carriers or something. But after the first three books there was a pretty annoying cycle (Don't worry, i'm not really giving anything away):

I) Bad Guys start something on the front.
II) Good Guys take a beating.
III) Good Guys fight back in one terrific operation.
IV) Bad Guys call for cease-fire. Goto I in next book.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

Still and all, some of the BEST damn action, tactics, and strategy I've ever read come from this series. And though the last few books are somewhat repetitious (you get used to it) those are when the action really heats up. I've got one left in the series, as soon as I find it in a bookstore I plan on gobbling it up.

Y'know, you put me in the mood to write up that novelization of The Rock. Think as soon as I'm done in the CR I'll pop in the 'ol tape and dive into chapter one.

Also, check out <http://members.tripod.com/kawai7/rock2movie.html> sometime. And remember to pick your jaw up off the floor. Although the Summer 99 release date seems a little optimistic, I really don't care. In my mind Bruckheimer + Bay + Cage + Connery + Hans Zimmer on music = Kick-ass action movie.

'Night all

==Any suffiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.==
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Monday, February 22, 1999 01:41:41 AM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

Robby< *LOL* LeX and i have met as a matter of fact:)
Doug< figured out that music thing..give me your em and ill send you the song:) *gone*
Lexy
Monday, February 22, 1999 12:58:48 AM
IP: d086.hnet.net

10th!

The Registry has been updated! Take a look, if you would. :)

That's all for the moment...
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Monday, February 22, 1999 12:22:44 AM
IP: 204-187-141.ipt.aol.com

***BEGIN PARTY BIT, WHICH HAPPENS JUST A FEW MOMENTS BEFORE ROBBY'S****
Boba Fett has his blaster pointed at SJ's head. "You're a goner, punk."
"No," a gravelly voice calls out. "YOU'RE the goner, punk." Fett turns just in time to catch a wicked uppercut that knocks him flat out on the floor, unconscious. The galaxy's most feared bountyhunter, one of the baddest badasses this side of the Corellian star system, has just had his hiney handed to him by.....
"DIRTY HARRY!!!" SJ shouts. "WOW!!! This party has everyone!"
"Actually, it's just me, Clint Eastwood," the grizzly movie star says, sitting down at the bar. "I get that Harry bit a lot, though."
***END PARTY BIT*****

***X-FILES SPOILERS****
What the @#$|& was up with this episode? Kinda reminiscient of the creature-features from the first couple of seasons, but that monster was just too dern odd for me....oh well, at least next week's episode looks pretty good
***END X-FILES SPOILERS***

Aris: Traitor! You collaborated with the enemy! Listen up, soldier, this is a WAR. There is no fair! They're only defeating the enemy! We kill them before they can kill us, and we'll lie, cheat, and steal to do so! NO POOR DUMB BASTARD HAS EVER WON A WAR BY DYING FOR HIS COUNTRY, HE WINS A WAR BY MAKING THE OTHER POOR DUMB BASTARD DIE FOR HIS!!! DO YOU HEAR ME?? AND WHAT'S THAT JELLY DOUGHNUT DOING IN YOUR FOOT LOCKER PRIVATE PYLE??????

Bryn Mawr: That's it, I'm transferring there next semester! What's that? An all girl's school? Even better! I got two words for you: Mrs. Doubtfire. If weirdo Robin Williams can pull it off, I can too!

Dad's fixin' stuff: I think it's part of their biological makeup. You'll see, once us fellas have a couple of ankle biters, we'll think we can build another world or two. Of course, we'll probably end up destroying the one we got. Take my dad: he knows the "best" way to fix everything. Usually involves twice the effort and money, but hey, it's the "best" way.

Gasoline: What, you've never heard of this? Hey, I don't advocate it, but it WORKS. You can go through a bar of soap, but this stuff gets it off with one swipe. Paint, tar, grease, anything. Of course, you usually wind up with a few minor burns.....and you should really wash your hands a few times afterwards....and there is that probable chance for cancer somewhere down the line if you use the stuff any more than, say, once a month.....but it WORKS. Better than that LAVA soap crap.

Bashing Your Own Work: Yeah, that's me. Seriously, I don't do it for compliments. I just don't think my stuff is that great. Or special. (None of you start to agree with me, though....;-p )

LeXington: Hey, Future Tense LeX! Welcome! I'm a big fan! I loved it when you turned on Goliath--classic betrayal! However, I may have to punish you for that Tainted Love song ;) (Ugh....hasn't 80's "New Wave" rock died YET?? I blame all those Time Life CD offers for keeping it's halflife going)

Gene Siskel: I'm one sick bastard, but I bet you that, in his heart of hearts, Ebert's lovin' this. Just the Roger Ebert show from now on! (Although Ebert & Elder would be a welcome sight!)


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:45:25 PM
IP: 207-172-117-32.s32.tnt12.brd.erols.com

Eighth!

Gonna go read new ep now, but before I do, I'm linking my name to an awesome webpage. Wanna blow up a city? Click to find out how much damage you could do with a nice thermonuclear weapon. I posted the URL in the last room, but don't know if anybody noticed.

BBL

==I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.==
Steve Gooch - [stg6@cornell.edu]
Ithaca, NY
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:34:31 PM
IP: stg6.resnet.cornell.edu

Anywhere from SEVENTH to TENTH.

For those who didn't get a chance before the room wiped, click my name to go to my new one, "Moment of Truth."
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:29:42 PM
IP: modem21.i-is.com

HA-HA!!! Back in the top ten again!!!!! Number SIX!!! Doug and Kitainia, My post is finished except for the current episode review and RP, so I'll be waiting for you to to finish with Jaden. He's going on a little "trip" with me. *heheheehehe*
Traveler - [traveler45@usa.net]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:26:43 PM
IP: 215-15-107.ipt.aol.com

*looks back*

Oh, I was number four... eep, it's obviously been too long since I've had a math course. :-) Real post later on in the week.
Blue Caeru - [magek@ufl.edu]
Gainesville, Florida, USA
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:25:11 PM
IP: ppp-12-ts25.nerdc.ufl.edu

Just tryingto post next to Heather if possible...

To redeem the post... This week's story warm up is a Mark Twain quote I believe...
Robby
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:23:09 PM
IP: spider-ta033.proxy.aol.com

6 !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:21:41 PM
IP: 209-72-97.ipt.aol.com

Top Five?!?
Blue Caeru
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:15:45 PM
IP: ppp-12-ts25.nerdc.ufl.edu

TOP TEN!!! Cleared before we could compete. Darn.

**PARTY BIT**

A menacing silhouette stands outside the door, a small army and a bunch of equipment behind him. "Don't invite ME to a party will you? Really Jim, you should know better. I think its time for plan 214..."

**END PARTY BIT**

Spike- Loved your cat drawings. But then, I'm a huge anthromorph fan... If I ever get a scanner, I'll have to show off a few of my own similar drawings...

LeX- Welcome! You should probably meet Lexy...

Own worst critic- For artists at least, saying your own work sucks is a necessity. By doing so, you constantly analyze your own work, figure out whats wrong with it, and get better. Generally any piece an artist does thats more than a couple of minutes old sucks to them, because they get better at it as they do it... In my case, the pics I've attached are no exception, they're almost two months old, and sketches at that. Of course I'm ashamed of them. It looks bad compared to what I'm doing now. Looks even worse when compared to what more proffesional artists like Spike do, but I accept that I'm damned good for 15. Shame that I'm 16, and so only pretty good for my age. But the same thing applies to writing and singing and anything creative that comes from one's own heart. Its healthy to be one's own worst critic, because then one strives to be better. A couple of drawings I did today I just love, (Of my anthromorphs, natch) they look better than anything I've done, I want to bronze them... This time next week, I'll be wondering why it has so many mistakes... Of course, bronzing a drawing wouldn't be a great idea, I'd end up with a bronze piece of paper.

By the by, my anthromorphs are about twenty times better than my humans or gargoyles, which is part of the reason I'm so critical on my self.

**PARTY BIT** (Remember, this is the last night for it, tommarrow is the last day! Closing ceremonies are tommarrow!)

Davy of the Monkees and Brooklyn of Gargoyles are still slugging it out. Davy is doing surprisingly well considering its human against gargoyle... And it looks like the fight is going to continue until the front wall is burst through.

Jim slaps his hand to his forehead. "Great... Even if it doesn't get blown up, the mansion is going to be demolished..." But he stops short as various pieces of computer generated equipment pop up around him, and large speakers and a drum set appear from nowhere. A menacing looking character steps out of the shadows, and Jim sees...

Megabyte of ReBoot fame, holding a kickin' looking green electric guitar. The computer virus strikes one long cord to test the instrument. Then, he cranks it up to 11, and the speakers audibly groan.
Jimk shouts to the assembled party goers. "Everybody, down! Cover your ears!" As soon as he says it, Megabyte goes into a kickin' electric guitar solo, and then comes to a pause, giving Jim a challenging look.

The party host nods, and grabs his own guitar. Within moments, the two play an awesome series of notes and cords that kick butt, in front of an astonished audience. Megabyte smiles. "I've always wanted to do that."

Megabyte is about to leave, when a booming voice comes forth. "And I have always wanted to do this!" It's the Brain,announcing something. Standing behind him are a bunch of Leos in red cloaks. "People of this party, submit to me as your new leader! Or else!"
"Or else what?"
"SHE'LL hurt you out." Brain smiles, and gestures to a reborn Legion, looking like a beautiful human woman now, but far more powerful,and unkillable than before.
"Oh $#!^!" Lion-O of the Thundercats comments.

**END PARTY BIT, THE CONCLUSION SHALL BE TOMMARROW!**

Anthromorph: To give an animal human characteristics, such as the ability to talk, think intelligently, or to give it human anatomy.
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:12:00 PM
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Memories are the little threads that hold life's patches of meaning together.

Lethe

the new Gargoyles/Pendragon episode

Written by: Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson, A Fan, and Patrick Toman

Story concept by: A Fan, Todd Jensen, Nicodemus, and Patrick Toman

Illustrations by: Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson

ENJOY!!!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:08:31 PM
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Could it be? First!!!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:08:22 PM
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