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SOROW> I'm just lurking about, hon
Green Baron
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:16:19 AM
IP: 98a71f41.ipt.aol.com
This friend of mine says you can make traffic lights change to green by reciting the names of every type of cheese you can think of. Do you think it might work for the CR?
Colby.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:15:44 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Sylvia> Doubt, I bet they'll be pissed when they see how big the rooms gotten cause of all this!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:15:26 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Hello meow. Clickie to see my pic.
Fleur> Welocme back ::noozlies::
Meow! Bye
Reverend Attila - [revattila@garfield.catsrule.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:14:09 AM
IP: 98a71f41.ipt.aol.com
Um, what if Deuce and/or DX is doing this for purpose and is watching us all chattering on about nothing?
*glares off into nowhere*
If you guys aren't doing this for purpose then, nevermind what I just said! :0)
Pheonix
time for Bright Cyan!
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:13:57 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Wilek> *L* Do you think the alligators would be better? :)
GB> Hello. <hugs back> Goodbye.
Fleur
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:13:54 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Last link didn't work. Try this one.
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:13:50 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Mr. Disconnect, we have such sights to show you...on Wilek's orders, of course...
Pinhead
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:13:07 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Green Baron> Where are you going? You hafta suffer with us!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:12:35 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Thanks Blue!
Fleur
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:11:57 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Hello all. ::hugs Fleur:: Bye Bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:11:15 AM
IP: 98a71f41.ipt.aol.com
Like the tree is that safe? It IS our bouncer. :P
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:11:07 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Wilek> *LOL* When the room clears, I think I'll head up the tree for safety.
Fleur
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:10:00 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
A wandering soul just entered th CR....no wait he just wandered out again:)
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:09:14 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
No more color testing.
Sorrow> I didn't say who "I Spy" would be hard for, did I? I could drag out my riddle collection, but I'm not really in the mood, or coordinated enough to type very well, either.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:09:08 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Wilek- Good idea! but I think I'll try for top ten anyway! ;) heehee
Pheonix
hmm, lets try Dark Grey!
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:08:40 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
*de-cloaks for a moment*
Welcome back, Fleur!
*re-cloaks*
Blue Caeru
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:08:34 AM
IP: spider-th063.proxy.aol.com
*starts falling asleep on Ray Tracker, waiting for gargoyles fic* *under her breath; New ep, new ep, *yawn* new ep, new ep,
Amy Da Tigger
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:08:28 AM
IP: spider-to013.proxy.aol.com
Wilek> Are you kidding? After all this? I'm going straight to the ep!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:08:17 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Y'all do realize, of course, that it's going to be absolutely insane when the room is finally wiped, as everyone rushes for Top 10 status. Think I'll just sit back and watch the carnage. >:)
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:07:04 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
I Spy a guy named David! I win!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:06:23 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Now testing "Dark Cyan." Anybody want to play 20 questions? I Spy would be kind of hard.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:05:17 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
I was just curious, I am sitting here trying to catalog about three months of comic backlog, I am experimenting with a new method, where I just pull out the cool, ones and stuff the rest in the back.
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:04:48 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
*gives up on waiting for the room to load properly and gets comfortable*
Hello everybody!
You know, I'm just going to plan ways to Kill Mr Dis will I'm waiting for the new ep. Hehehe, never let it said I can't keep myself entertained. ;)
Fleur
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:03:47 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Sylvia> The one garg cycle when I decided to tape all the eps, they cancelled the show! I'm still hoping they'll play the last seven eps!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:03:31 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Most of my site is back up, with a few new things in the Gallery, if anyone's interested. :)
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:03:25 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Starts chanting new ep new ep new ep
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:03:15 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
Other than just generally being insane? Nothing much. <g>
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:02:22 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Does anyone else do anything else while waiting here, besides reading and writing? Just curios
Tripp
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:01:48 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
NOOOOooooooooo! I knew I forgot to watch something! Argh!
Pheonix
nuts, the color none is just yellow, blah.
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:01:01 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Hm. Normally I'm rather patient about this kind of thing, but the wipe *is* over an hour late...
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 01:00:55 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Hi Wilek! Pitch out your tent! Here are the marshmellows!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:59:50 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Wilek- YOU GUESSED IT! we're waiting for the new ep!
Pheonix
hmm, I wonder what the color NONE is?
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:59:06 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Oh, yeah! I forgot to mention that Awakenings Part One was on today on the Real Disney Channel! Kinda a surprise and new hope!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:58:59 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Have we reformatted to chat mode again?
Wilek
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:57:54 AM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Oh My God1 The Tick is on, I haven't seen this in like forever.
Tripp
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:57:46 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
I just wanna say *sniff* that I feel really close to you guys right now!............!............. Where was I? Oh, yeah! Waiting for my ass to fall asleep!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:56:55 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Kitiana- I'm starting to think that it flew out the window
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:55:55 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
*comes in and grins*
All right, who's idea was this? :)
(waiting for the CR to load properly before I do a proper post. Dis, you are going to die in new and unusual ways when I get my talons on you!)
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:55:50 AM
IP: proxy.monash.edu.au
Now testing "Mint Green." D'oh. That's right. Oh well, at least Lenny will be happy.
If anyone didn't get that joke, but wants to, read of Mice and Men, then take some nice antidepresent medication.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:55:45 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Too long! Where the heck is the new episode?
Kitainia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:54:21 AM
IP: pool-207-205-236-103.dlls.grid.net
Oh, HI Kit! How long have you been here?
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:53:43 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Hey SOROW> Don't worry, just be glad I am only on caffiene, it might keep me awake but it calms my nerves, iff I were on a sugar bend, look out, I am the most hyper person you will ever meet.
Tripp
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:53:20 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
David G.- no, I don't get it, but I still think its funny ;)
Pheonix
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:53:10 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
::chase scene, Demona and Goliath. Demona holding a box. Both fly into the night. Goliath tackles Demona by the legs, taking her down, the box breaks in between her open hands::
::a rainbow comes from the scattered remains and fall upon central park::
Brooklyn: Skittles, taste the rainbow.
Amy Da tigger
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:52:50 AM
IP: spider-to013.proxy.aol.com
I'll pretend! HHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:52:41 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
That's not true. Check Timedancer. Plenty of rabbits in there. :)
Come on, post the ep already!
Kitainia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:52:19 AM
IP: pool-207-205-236-103.dlls.grid.net
I'm gonna have to throw in the towel. I have to get some sleep.
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:52:02 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Now testing "Powder Blue." Anybody here ever read "Of Mice and Men." If not, you might not get this joke.
Tell me how it's gonna' be when the CR clears, George.
Oh Lenny, it'll be beautiful. There will be a new episode up.
And Rabbits, don't forget the Rabbits
Actually, Lenny, there's never been a rabbit in a Gargoyles Episode. They had some wierd chicken things in Pendragon once...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:51:15 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Hey Forrest! Don't Tripp! OK, this is sad! Now I think I'm funny!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:51:03 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
SOROW- Loki or Puck
Tripp- okay
Pheonix
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:50:43 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
HHHHHHAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!! I got a good one! You know those Skittles commercials? Try imagining the gargs do that! Who'd whisper...Skittles, taste the rainbow?
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:49:23 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Well, Pheonix/Sylvia, calm calm. There, now put on some soothing music, and sit back with a warm cup of peppermint tea. Or just keep running around until you collapse. I also have two names, call me Tripp.
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:48:34 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
Sorow- good song!
Pheonix
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:46:57 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Yes! Third place in the other CR:)
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:46:00 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
Forrest- I don't know which name to use! heeheeheeheehee
thats why I use both- you can use either!
uh, WILL THIS CR EVER CLEAR? YEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHH *runs around screaming for a while*
okay, back to "normal"
Pheonix
I wonder what dark cyan looks like?
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:45:47 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
David G.> I'm checking the ep every so often. But they could be refreshing the room every couple of minutes, laughing, and wondering how long we'll sit here waiting.
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:44:37 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Gimme a break, Gimme a break. I wanna take a break with that T...G...S! Those really cool gargs are gonna make your day. And where ever you go, you hear the CR Clan say...
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:43:07 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Well Pheonix, or is it Sylvia? I say this only because I never get to slepp before 2 or three, I don't have anything to do tomorrow (No Classes, Yes!), and I just finished off a very large cup of hot tea. The Caffienated kind. So, I am a hyper insomniac right now, heheeh.
Forrest - [fdavids@clemson.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:42:49 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
Now testing "Cyan." You don't think they'd post the new Ep and not wipe the room, just to mess with our minds, do ya'? Nah...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:42:45 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Whoever is supposed to upload the story and clear the CR better be sick or dead. :-)
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:40:39 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Let's all go heeheeheeheeheehee... whew, I'm light-headed...
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:40:29 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Forrest- I can wait all night to! I just don't think I will, although I might! heeheeheeheehee
Pheonix
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:39:22 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Just curious, but since a some poeple are talking about tv, does anyone else watch Misty 3K on sunday's
Forrest - [fdavids@clemosn.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:39:16 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
That's it, I'm going to bed. **walks out of the room talking about how much she misses Robby**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:38:38 AM
IP: 98ce42c7.ipt.aol.com
Boy... someone is gonna be pissed when they see all this clutter... but I like to think of it as sensible rambling!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:38:33 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
SOROW> I'm gonna have to refuse. Not only do I have to work, my parents are gonna make me fish a rotting mouse corpse out of our attic/crawlspace in the morning if I can't talk 'em out of it.
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:37:34 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Now testing "Off Red." They're playing that cool "last kiss" cover by Pearl Jam on the Mix. I love that song.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:37:26 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Well, i must say that this is one of the most lively conversations I have ever seen in here, but unlike the rest of you, I can wait all night, hehehehe.
Forrest - [fdavids@clemosn.edu]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:37:20 AM
IP: 206-74-92-227.generic.clemson.edu
WoW! *sits here looking at all the posts she's made tonight* this is what happens when I'm deprived of sleep and get very very hyper!
now I'm scaring myself *grins*
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:36:57 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
**laughs in RL** I'm laughing at my own jokes!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:35:39 AM
IP: 98ce42c7.ipt.aol.com
Do any of you know any real Vampires? I do she is pretty cool. also we are best friends
Lawrence Stone - [Craft_Celtic]
Chillicothe, Ohio, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:35:22 AM
IP: chil-ras7-1-cs-2.dial.bright.net
Blame Game> What if they sprung out the Underwear File? Then they'd hafta say "Not wearing any!" heeheeheehee
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:35:16 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
I think my reload button is mad at me for hitting it so much. *sighs* *takes out cardian* *tosses card into air, yelling "REBOOT!"* *Ray Tracer comes out to comfort her*
Yes. I have a weakness for aussies. *hugs Ray* My comfort till new fic. :P
Amy da tigger
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:34:00 AM
IP: spider-to013.proxy.aol.com
Heather> It better be posted soon. I'm gonna snap if I have to sit here until Tuesday.
Yooper_99
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:33:33 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Since Kaioto and I live in the same time zone we were watching The Blame Game and I just said that.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:32:57 AM
IP: 98ce42c7.ipt.aol.com
Heather- I hope youre not right!
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:32:27 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Now testing "Dark Peach." On IE, if you just hit "Back" instead of following the link, all your info stays up.
Heather> How about Singled Out for Gargoyles, with categories like Wing Span and Brow Ridges...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:32:16 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Yooper 99> Break out the tents! There's plenty of marshmellows for everyone! Want a beer?
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:32:02 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Heather:*lol*I'm not going to be able to shake that mental image for a while:)
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:31:48 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
I bet it won't be posted until Tuesday.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:31:27 AM
IP: 98ce42c7.ipt.aol.com
Oops! that chant somewhere down there was mine
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:30:55 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
I hope nobody minds if I skip everything but my name, since we're posting every couple of minutes.
Phoenix> You probably missed me before. I didn't do much else than announce that I was here before moving into the corner of the room.
I know full well I have to get up at nine AM and I'm sitting in front of my computer at 12:30, waiting for a story to be posted. I feel like one of those people who sat in front of theaters for a month for "Star Wars."
Yooper_99
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:29:38 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Chanting on in Cyan Tint- New ep F5 New ep F5 new ep new ep new ep CHA CHA CHA... Yeah!
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:29:20 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Ever feel like diving naked into a tub full of strawberry flavored Jello? No? Me neither. SOMEBODY WIPE THE ROOM!!!!
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:28:29 AM
IP: 207-172-119-58.s58.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
You know, a few days ago I had a idea of what if Goliath and Demona were on Mtv's The Blame Game?
Example :
Goliath : "Alright, since you like do it in public places, I dare you to admit of what is in your 'Public Places' file ?
Demona : **hammers light** I admit it. Sometimes when the leader and the second weren't around and not looking we did it in the rookery.
Creavitity Demon!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:28:23 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Now testing "Lilac." I'd try an image, too, but I'm on a 14.4, and they take forever to load.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:27:35 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
SORROW:*ROTFL*
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:27:28 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
*getting in on chanting* New ep, lousy week, need some fic, new ep, new ep, new ep!!
Amy da tigger
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:27:05 AM
IP: spider-to013.proxy.aol.com
Kentucky Bluegrass (always wondered which color it was)
Pheonix
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:26:53 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
OK, this is funny! My dad is wondering why I keep repeating everything on the screen......Wait a second, mister! You're fifty and suppose to be in bed! No more chocolate for you, you old buzzard!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:25:42 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
David G. that seems like fun!
Gold
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:25:07 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Now testing "dusk blue."
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:24:11 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Heather> Oh, thanks *ahem*. I thought it sucked, but I just got this really hot vision of Brooklyn walking around in boots and guns! Hot Hot Hot!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:22:29 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Yooper_99- oopsie! Well, then... Welcome Back Yooper_99!
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:22:26 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
No time like the present. Let's try Purple Tint.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:22:14 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Hi Yooper_99!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:22:11 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
I should just get one of those birds that bobs it's head up and down and put it over my 'F5' key.
Phoenix> Actually, I've posted before. I've just been lurking for the past couple of months.
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:21:07 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
Go Sylvia Go!
Helloooooo Yooper 99!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:20:34 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Sorow > That was cool!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:19:44 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
welcome Yooper_99!
I'm going to go make myself some chocolate milk!
Next
Pheonix
Anonymous
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:18:25 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
lalalala...Wild Wild Gargs! Gargoyles Desparado! Rough Fliers! Yea, you don't want nada........ kay, that was weak...
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:18:20 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Heather> That's why I think I need a picture and a color. Me and Doug look too much alike in CR. We look nothing alike IRL.
That's the most 'net-speak' I've ever used in one sentence.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:17:30 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
I'm hoping I have time to read this story before I go to bed. I have to go to work in the morning.
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@up.net]
Republic, MI
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:17:04 AM
IP: hbt1-252.up.net
I just got in from work next...
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:15:21 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
David > I told you ppl that staying up late does that to me. You both start with D's!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:15:10 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
**looks around and sits down on the ground** I slepted all day and talked to Kaioto. NEXT !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:14:21 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Refresh...Refresh....Refresh... actually this is fun...
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:14:16 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Heather> I'm not Doug.
I saw WWW Friday. It didn't quite suck.
I'm sitting here not writing the next Freelance story. Actually, I get a sentence in about every five minutes. At that rate it will be done by the year 2005.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:13:12 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
What??? July Fourth, our independence day, is more important than this? I think not ;)
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:12:38 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Don't come see the fireworks in Colorado Springs! I grew up in Chicago, and the fireworks here are nothing compared to Chicagos now next
Pheonix
me again!
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:12:34 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
SOROW - I also saw Wild Wild West this weekend. It was alright, but then again it's not like I was expecting to see Shakespeare. The special effects were pretty good.
Airwalker
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:12:20 AM
IP: 201.new-york-21-22rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
NI!!*sorry just felt like saying it*:)
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:11:30 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
What if everyone is too busy celebrating to clear the CR and post the new ep? :-P
Blue Caeru
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:11:00 AM
IP: spider-th032.proxy.aol.com
**yawns**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:10:57 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
I just finished watching Dumb and Dumber! ;) next
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:10:45 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Let's see how much time we can waste... ummmmm, I saw Wild Wild West today... it sucked... ummmm, next person go!
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:09:14 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Doug > I don't know. I'm just surfing and listening to the Open House Party on the radio.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:08:36 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
David G.- nope
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:08:24 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
New Ep, New Ep...
Hey, while we wait, do any of you know of a way that I can see the end results of CR colors and Pictures without making lots of random posts. I've been thinking of trying out a more distinctive appearance for my posts, as a way to warn people. :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:06:39 AM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
lalalalalalalnew eplalalalalalalalalalnew eplalalalalalanew eplalalalalala
SOROW
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:06:10 AM
IP: usr11-dialup342.mix1.irving.cw.net
Either DX or Deuce will clear it...where are they ? -_-
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:06:07 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Chant time- New ep new ep new ep new ep new ep new ep new ep
uh, CR clearing, where are you?
Pheonix
Sylvia
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:04:30 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
**looks at her watch** Okay....
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, July 5, 1999 12:02:35 AM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Staying up at night make me say strange things. **rubs her temples**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:58:40 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
*laughs* Vultures...
Blue Caeru
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:57:31 PM
IP: spider-th032.proxy.aol.com
or vultures ;)
Pheonix
Anonymous
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:57:28 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Heather:*lol*
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:57:00 PM
IP: 203.29.192.74
Or not. What I was going to say was that wolves actually go out looking for deer. We're more like crows waiting for the end of a battle.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:56:48 PM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Wow, I got cut off mid comment. That may mean I'm first. Cool.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:55:46 PM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:55:09 PM
IP: pppa42-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Heather- good observation!
Jenniren- my clock says its 9:57 my time, so it would be 11:57 eastern time right? ;) well, everyones clock is probably different.
Pheonix
Sylvia
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:52:28 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Kaioto- nice pic :)
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:49:10 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Heather my computer clock shows 11:59 so look at the difference. I think the CR clock is slow.
Jenniren
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:49:06 PM
IP: user-2ivf6te.dialup.mindspring.com
I just noticed something. Everyone here is waiting for the room to clear and the new ep. It's kinda like a pack of wolves waiting for a deer to come into view.
" It's coming, just wait." And when it DOES get into view they all pounce !
Weird, huh ?
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:48:54 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Gr ... stupid ms browser bits ... always messing up ... *L* Ah well ... see what you get for pre-typing?
kaioto
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:42:00 PM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net
Ah yes, top ten ...
Well, here's something never before posted ... a picture of me, though it is months old ... I've lost 15 libs and 4 inches and the goatee since then ... but he, I've still got the sword and the trencher ... *L* Time for the ep ...
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:40:52 PM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net
This room is turning into a chat room for tonight. Because SOME want to post the ep right on mid-night. -_-
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:40:01 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Hi all*lurks*
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:27:47 PM
IP: 203.29.192.74
Well since I'm in the Eastern Standerd time my computer clock must be wrong because it shows 11: 35 P.M. Hmm...
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:25:48 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Um...the CR runs on Eastern time, and the new ep won't be up for about a half hour. Unless it's posted early. :)
Might as well deliver some site news while I'm here--most of my site is back up (clicky), along with a small update to the Gallery. Enjoy. :)
Real post later.
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:22:31 PM
IP: tnt-1-40-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
That makes 5 waiting for the new ep
Lawrence Stone - [Craft_Celtic]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:21:33 PM
IP: chil-ras7-1-cs-2.dial.bright.net
*grins evilly* LETS start a chant!! new ep..new ep..new ep new ep New Ep..New EP NEW EP!! NEW EP!! NEW EP!! *chants*
Lexy
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:18:39 PM
IP: d223.hnet.net
Then there are 4.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:15:46 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Let's make that three of us waiting for the new ep. :)
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:14:15 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
me too blue
Lexy
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:07:55 PM
IP: d223.hnet.net
*sigh* I'm waiting for the new episode...
Blue Caeru
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:07:31 PM
IP: spider-th032.proxy.aol.com
Ok...this room is suppose to be cleared. Where is Duece when you need him ? **narrows eyes**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:00:20 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
Hi all! Just waiting for the CR to wipe. nothing to do. bored. waiting for fireworks. Will the CR wipe today, or will it wipe tomorrow due to holiday conditions? jus' wonderin'. *shrugs* I'll go back to waiting
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:59:42 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt3.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Ah, finally, someone to talk to.
Coyote> If you ever missed four issues in a row, I'm amazed you had any idea what was going on at all. Of course, the real reason to read the series was for the arguments between Pansey and Violet:
Pistoff> Like I said, there's a trade off. I belong to the Church of Christ, so I never had to go to confession, or learn any Latin. (actually, I kind of wish I had learned Latin).
I suppose I'm really mostly a very cautious Agnostic. I don't know for sure that there's a God, but just in case there is, I don't want to make Him mad at me.
Discordians are fun people, though, aren't they. I liked Steve Jackson's take on them in Illumnati. The Discordians don't want to take over the world to rule it, or destroy it. They just want to maybe paint it a nice shade of pink or something...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:35:23 PM
IP: pppa8-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
**QUICK SHAMELESS PLUG**
I've revised one of my old stories (Fall of Nightstone) to fix some continuity mistakes and posted a new version to the archive.
If you want to, go check it out.
More later,
Doug
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:34:35 PM
IP: pool-207-205-237-3.dlls.grid.net
Coyote B. > If you got one of Robby, send it to me man!
TGS Staff people > When is the season finale of Gargoyles/Pendragon ? Because it seems like this season keeps going and going and going, Not that it's a bad thing.
^_^
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:26:05 PM
IP: 98ce5227.ipt.aol.com
**enters the room, switching the candles out quickly, pulling out a Zippo lighter to light the new one. Sits in the big chair and lets out a great sigh.**
Oyy, it was hot today!! My exhaustion didn't help me much ... stayed up last night when I discovered the time my local PBS station shows "Red Dwarf." This was my first experience with the show, for all those familiar with it ... somebody tell me if I picked up on a good ep or not (it was the one with two Rimmers).
Let's see ... oh yeah, collated my Gathering pics today ... all that's left is labeling 'em all to identify who's who, then I can send 'em to Arizona. (Not to worry, I got double prints. :)
David G: You too, huh? Imagine how bad it is if you miss four issues in a row! Though I have to say, the best S7 ish, for my money, was the "Tales of the Dead Earth" annual they did. Wish the reality had turned out that way ... I get the feeling Claremont could see that DC was getting ready to pull the plug, so he crammed his entire S7 story arc beginning to end into this one issue.
Mary: Good to see ya back. Wicca, eh? Hmm ... occasionally I think to myself I might take a look at Wiccan culture, to get some story ideas ... if that's the way your heart directs ya, more power to ye, lass. :)
Kaioto: Ohh man ... I hope things work out with your friend. The last thing anyone needs is for a friend to end their own life.
**sigh** Ah well, time to wait for the merry chase! :)
**sits back in the big chair and fixates.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:11:54 PM
IP: modem69.i-is.com
David G.: Actually, being an athiest is fairly easy for several reasons. Mainly because we're not afraid of going to hell if we screw up. And we don't have to bother with things like sitting in a booth and confessing our sins. I'm always willing to talk about my naughtiness to anybody who happens to be nearby, all people have to do is ask me a question and I'll answer it. :)
Still, there's something to be said for other religions/philosophies. Take Discordianism, for example. Here's one of my favorite quotes from the Principia Discordia: "Moral perfection isn't required for Discordian Sainthood. You just have to suffer a lot." :)
Ahh ... I'll be back later. All the coffee I've been drinking today is going through me like a bullet train. ;)
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 09:39:16 PM
IP: wire-16.koalas.com
Hi folks. I feel compelled to make some sort of comment, mostly because there hasn't been one in about 5 hours, and I'm getting lonely.
Mary Flanders> It's good that you're trying to find a way to fill the spiritual void in your life. I've often wondered how Athiests stand the emptiness. (On the other hand, they don't have to deal with the constant feeling that vast cosmic forces are out to get them. I guess it's a trade off.) I'm not going to comment on your choice of religions, since this kind of forum isn't really the place for it, and it's none of my business anyway. (Well, I will say you could have done worse - the wicca I know are fairly nice people). I just have one thing to ask. Are you trying to find something that fulfills your own needs, or are you looking for the force you should devote your life to? The difference is important.
One motive is basically selfish, and tries to fill the void by taking. The other motive is selfless. It fills the void by eleminating it. Once you've really given your life to something beyond yourself, you find that the void has gone away without you trying to fill it. Otherwise, it's like a black hole that just gains in mass and strength as long as you feed it.
By the way, so that I don't come off as a self-rightious twit, I haven't really found the way to fill that void in my own life. I only know enough to know that no one person has the power to do it, and to know some of the ways that don't work.
I wish you well.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 09:09:27 PM
IP: pppa11-resalefortworth2-2r1005.saturn.bbn.com
Wilek - you wrote: [Er...none of the games you listed are for the PC, I'm afraid, unless you can find emulated copies of them. Not that I know of, anyhow, although I could be mistaken. There is a version of Final Fantasy 7 for the PC though.]
Well that would explain the trouble I've been having with finding them. I did see the Final Fantasy 7 for PC but hedged at getting it because it was $30.00 and I don't get more money until Tuesday. Is the PC version as good? Anyone know of PC versions of the others? I think Diablo (which Warpmind recommended) is available on PC though so I'll see if the store has that. I'm really disappointed I can't play Lands of Lore I on my computer (with Patrick Stewart's voice).
Wilek wrote: [As for computer games...well, they're not RPG's, but I recommend Heretic 2, The 7th Guest, The 11th Hour, Myst, Riven, Dark Seed 2, The Journeyman Project 3, Starship Titanic, Phantasmagoria, Shivers 1 and 2, King's Quest 6, and The Blackstone Chronicles.]
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll see if I can find any of them anywhere. Have you tried Hexen II? The Egyptian-style backgrounds in the screen shots I found online looked interesting. I'd try some of the online demos I found but my stupid connection keeps getting hung until it times out. I guess we all know who's responsible for THAT.
I feel like I should say something about Gargoyles or TGS in here, but I can't think of anything. Part 2 of Reemergence is tonight or tomorrow?
Jenniren
Sunday, July 4, 1999 03:17:49 PM
IP: user-2ivf0c7.dialup.mindspring.com
Kiaoto>completely agree with you. I'm only interested in spiritual enlightenment and becoming more in touch with nature, not trying to zap someone with lightening or make an enemy's hair fall out, though that would be fairly impressive ;P. But I can't do that because magic doesn't work all the time (because Spirit might have other plans), and there's the Three-fold Law: anything you send out comes back times three. Plus I don't want to curse anyone just because they're being their rude or mean selves. The universe has it's way of payback. :)
Mary Flanders
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:24:47 PM
IP: ramp-1-34.ucdavis.edu
hello!
first, a good news: to have a full version of Gargoyles 2K episode #16, TRUCE, with art by Christi Smith Hayden and Alisa Christopher, and a midi file, click on the link of my name.
now, I've a question. what's wrong with adult.gargoyles-fans.org?
for several days, I couldn't reach the site. just wondering
that's all folks!
Denis "Wyrmwolf" De Plaen - [wyrmwolf@lft.be]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:12:07 PM
IP: ppp-bruxelles-2-176.infonie.be
Happy July 4! Independence Day!
David G.- Love that song, it's really good!
S.J.- Glad you didn't have to leave after all! Have fun with your sister tomorrow
Uh, I think thats about it for now!
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Colorado Springs, CO, 80904
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:12:02 PM
IP: 1cust238.tnt2.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
SEVARIUS JR. - I wanted to pick up Battlechasers but dropped it after Joe Mad took six month's to come out with one issue. Six Months! It's one thing if he had gotten sick or some tragedy had happened, but it took him Six Months! on his own with no problems to come up with one issue. He just completely lost me after that. I'll still willing to pick up Battlechasers but only in collected editions or trade paperbacks.
(Cliffhanger is coming out with a new title by Joe Kelly and Chris whats-his-name, you know the original artist on Gen X. It's called Steampunk. The whole idea of it is that somehow technology gets out a little earlier in history and turns the world upside down. Now one person who has lost his arm and his heart to technology (They've been replaced by metal and by a furnace) must fight the evil conquerer who with a monopoly on technology rules the world. It sounds interesting and some preview art I've seen in Wizard looks good. But more importantly they are coming up with a realistic shipping schedule for it. It's something like 3 - 5 issues come out, and then there is a break for a month or two in which those issues are collected in a Trade Paperback, and then it comes back for another few month's for another story arc. I might pick it up when it comes out.)
Let me suggest three titles to you that you might enjoy. The first two are THE AUTHORITY and PLANETARY. Wonderful books. If you have time to look through the room, I wrote out a description of those two books somewhere down below.
The third title that you might enjoy is SPIDER-GIRL. It's much better than either of the main Spider-titles. It's set about 15 years in the future with May Parker, the daughter of Spider-Man as the lead. Every issue is self contained, meaning you can pick up any issue at random and get a complete story in one issue. It's a great book, much more worthy of purchase than any of the current Spider-Man books.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:00:22 PM
IP: 253.new-york-43-44rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Ash> Wicca I am a Wiccan. Yes wicca is harmless it is a positive religion we stand by a code Do as you will but harm none. we respect all religions. Wiccan's worship the Great Goddess and Horened God.
Lawrence Stone - [Craft_Celtic]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:49:42 PM
IP: chil-ras5-1-cs-12.dial.bright.net
***********************Shameless Plug***********************
My story is now up in the fanfic archive!!! Everyone read and let me know what you think.
Thanks!! =)
********************End of Shamless plug*********************
Jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:18:36 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-11-1.hstntx.swbell.net
Real quick post, since I have a last-minute 4th of July get-together to throw together.
Lexy> No, I don't have ICQ... but if you don't want Hotmail to screw the files up, feel free to send them to alo1 @ students.hood.edu (without the spaces, of course - I do NOT want spam flooding into my school account! :) )
Wild Wild West> Not as terrible as I expected; with the exception of Branagh, it was a bunch of good actors trying to make the best they could with a badly written script. The gadgets stole the show.
Anyway, the Weird Al "Behind the Music" is on, and I have cleaning to do... have a great 4th of July, everybody!
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:12:12 AM
IP: p1-23.netgsi.com
I've updated my site with new roms, click to see it. I have an English version of the Final Fantasy 5 rom, quite possibly the best of the series. I encourage any visitors to sign my guestbook.
I leave for bible camp today, so this will be my last post until Saturday.
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, July 4, 1999 11:05:29 AM
IP: kam-53-0142.direct.ca
Blue- Yeah, I remember Phantom 2040 (and I've seen the Phantom movie, and trust me, don't bother)
I have become something of a Phantom fan, I thought the character has potential, but is limited by King Features Syndicate's unwillingness to develop the character in any way. If they would put up the money to start a comic book, get a decent creative team behind the project, and let them have a reasonable amount of licence with The Ghost Who Walks, they could have a real winner here...
Heck if they dropped the stupid striped shorts I might read it :)
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, July 4, 1999 10:47:30 AM
IP: uv1-38.ultravision.net
*sighs and frowns, lays his head to one side, weary*
Ash: It is true. There are dark parts to every organized instituion, from bureaucracy to religion, from the IRS and IRA all the way to the Vatican and the Supreme court, everyone is vulnerable because they have an agenda, even if it is a good one. And religions have flaws, because they are filled with flawed people, just like you ... and just like me. We have a responsibility to judge actions, and motivations, but no right to judge other people as good or evil, though we sometimes find it inevitable.
Mary: Congratulations on finding something that brings you closer to the Maker. Just remember to be careful, as the meaning of the religion is not always interchangable with the rituals and prayers. It is supposed to be a way of life, not a song and dance. The wands etc. don't have to be a big priority, anymore than a Catholic Mass needs a Cathedral or special wafers for Eucharist.
Another thought: People talk about concrete magic *sigh* Special effects aren't magic, spiritual effects are. Look at a Catholic Rite of the Eucharist. The bread and whine are actually transformed from base elements to the body and blood of Jesus Christ. Does this mean it tastes any different? Are you eating a strip of flesh or drinking from a hemoglobin-ladened chalice? No. Is it still wholely the Body and Blood? Yes. Why? Because it's spiritual nature in realtion to others has been changed. Much in the same respect, don't be disappointed in Magick because it doesn't make it rain or blast thunder from the sky, or even let you know your cat is sneaking up on you from behind. Magic is in here. *points to the heart* It is part of every human being, our spark that makes us individuals, and compassionate, and creative. Look around and be witness to SO many everyday miracles we take for granted.
And as usual *Sigh* The truth bites back. There is no easier a way to get surrounded by darkness then to fight against it. *Sigh* But people are precious, they are an element unto themselves, Void ... without Void, the other elements have no soul and little use ... the 9th day after Solstice was the Day of Fire, the last, worst day of drought in my home, the tenth was a day of Water, when the drought broke and rain sang in the land, the eleventh was of air, when the gails carried power from one end of the shore to the other, and today was calm and solid, like the earth, and now is the dawning of the 13th day of Soltice, the day of Void ... a Churchday, and Holiday, and a day of celebration ... and I'm the only one I know in my entire community who's noticed ... does that make it any less an auspicious or mystical? No, because ~I~ see it, and I live it. Like all good things in life, they don't just happen, they are understood.
I just finished talking to a suicidal friend. A girl who's seen very little more than darkness in her life. She yearns for some sort of miracle or magic to happen TO her so badly, so badly she has forgotten that She is the one who is supposed to direct her life, that God, the Maker, the Universe, Gaea, the Force, or Magick is only suppose to be there to give you the strength of True Humanity. Prayer does not move mountains, it gives the power and inspiration to the engineres and laborers who move mountains.
It is you and I who must act of the hands and hearts of God, because that is the burden of free will, consequences and responsibilities. Bad things will happen to good people, because if Allah stopped it, it would ruin our entire identity as a people. Life is not a punishment, and no matter how bereft of physical signs you're life may be, the Goddess walks with you.
I As a dear longs for streams of water, so my soul longs for you, O God/ My being thirsts for God, the living God. When can I go and see the face of God?/ My tears have been my food day and night, as they ask daily, "Where is your God?"/ Those times I recall as I pour out my soul, when I went in procession with the crowd, I went with them to the house of God, Amid loud cries of thanksgiving with the multitude keeping festival./ Why are you downcast, my soul; why do you groan with me? Wait for God, whom I shall praise again, my savior and my God/
II My soul is downcast within me; therefor I will remember you from the land of the Jordan and Hermon, from the land of Mount Mizar./ Here deep calls to deep in the roar of your torrents. All your waves and breaks sweep over me./ At dawn may the Lord bestow faithful love that I may sing praise through the night, I praise the God of my life./ I say to God, "My rock, why do you forget me? Why must I go about mourning with the enemy oppressing me?"/ It shatters my bones, when my adversaries approach me. They say to me daily: "Where is your God?"/ Why are you downcast, my soul, why do you groan within me? Wait for God, whom I shall praise again, my savior and my God./
III Grant me justice, God; defend me from a faithless people; from the deceitful and unjust rescue me./ You, God, are my strength. Why then must you spurn me? Why must I go about mourning, with the enemy oppressing me?/ Send your light and fidelity, that they may be my guide and bring me to your holy mountain, to the place of your dwelling/ That I may come to the altar of God, to God, my joy, my delight. Then I will praise you with the harp, O God, my God/ Why are you downcast, my soul? Why do you groan within me? Wait for God, whom I shall praise again, my savior and my God.
-Psalm 43
Remember it is our capacity to Live beyond the conditions that should rob us of our very souls that are easy evidence that God walks with us. In the times that we are most abandoned and hurt in our lives, but we somehow manage to put one foot in front of the other, God is truly close at hand. He is not the one who makes the suffering, but the one who helps us to endure and overcome, our strength. It is in this captive's suffering and woe that he is touched by the Spirit, and given a purpose to endure, to give life to the psalm, which millennia later, gives life to others. Everyday miracles …
-For Elizabeth, for all of us.
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [Kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 04:13:00 AM
IP: 1cust57.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net
Hey all! Gotta be the first to report that "Ask Greg" has been reopened!!!
Entity
Sunday, July 4, 1999 02:41:56 AM
IP: ely-oh4-01.ix.netcom.com
Doug: I read part of your third fic tonight, but I've been sidetracked by several other things, none of them even remotely connected to writing. I'll finish reading it tomorrow, hopefully, and send my feedback then. Also, my new email seems to have gone down the tubes already--it won't let me log in, just as anti-social.com did. This is just wonderful. I tell everybody I have a new addy and they send stuff to it, and now I'm not able to read any of it. If it's not fixed soon, I'll be finding myself yet another one ...
Pistoff
Sunday, July 4, 1999 02:36:39 AM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com
Mary> Of course, religion is a path to power, and religion spread by violence is a faster path to power. That's why every single religion, currently practiced or extinct, has followers who used muscle and sword.
Ash
Sunday, July 4, 1999 02:07:56 AM
IP: yktnsk01d01040182.sk.sympatico.ca
Ash>one more thing, Christianity does have a dark history of persecuting innocent people and killing them, and doing quite a few immoral acts, I might add...
Mary
Sunday, July 4, 1999 02:01:18 AM
IP: ramp-1-10.ucdavis.edu
Warpmind>these are some good reads:
Teen Witch: Wicca for a new Generation, by Silver RavenWolf
To Ride a Silver Broomstick, by Silver RavenWolf
To Stir a Magick Cauldron: A Witch's Guide to casting and Conjuring, by Silver RavenWolf
Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner, by Scott Cunningham
Earth, Air, Fire & Water: More Techniques of Natural Magic, by Scott Cunningham
Mary (again)
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:57:04 AM
IP: ramp-1-10.ucdavis.edu
Ash>Well...Wicca is a little bit of old, and mostly modern.
Mary
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:48:55 AM
IP: ramp-1-10.ucdavis.edu
Wicca is harmless I guess, but you have to realise that despite the claims of many of its practitioners it is not an ancient religion. It was made up in England in the last century. How do I know this? I'm a country boy of peasant stock, and all I have to do is look to my immigrant Grandparents. They have several superstitions and beleifs. Nature is a provider, but not a benevolent entity. Violence is a fact of life, and the pacifistic wind up ground into the mud. The supernatural is to be feared, not courted.
So the things Wiccans say about how their religion was subdued by the church is lies. They have nothing in common with the beleifs of the Celts, Germans or the Egyptians and Romans. To understand these people you first have to take away your comforts of technology, you have to try to pull your food from the earth and the wild, you have to face people that try to steal your belongings through violence. Do that, and then shift your religious beleifs accordingly. But... for city people in middle class homes who get food from a supermarket, Wiccanism can work for you.
Ash
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:40:25 AM
IP: yktnsk01d01040182.sk.sympatico.ca
****RP!!!****
Jaden runs up to Doug slashing at baddies left and right.
"Doug! If we survive this please tell me that we are going to have the BIGGEST victory party any of us have ever seen."
With that Jaden turns to jump back into the fight. "Oh and by the way I can't be sure but I think Hades is near."
****END RP!!!****
I'm soooo glad right now. I'm almost done with my summer classes and I'll have a month of vaction. I'm thinking about going hiking. I love the forest and rock climbing.
Sylvia-Don't worry about it. We havn't really talked before and the picture of Angela probably through you off. I use it because I like it.
To all you people who say that they have weird Star Wars names- Read some of the books your names would fit in perfectly.
Well I got work in the morning so I'm off to sleep.
See ya later!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Los Alamos, CA, U.S.A.
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:24:14 AM
IP: pm0-31.vpop1.avtel.net
Xanathar: Of course I liked the two first EOB games. I have yet to play a Westwood RPG that I dislike. And that was probably the reason EOB3 was such a fluke; Westwood pulled out, and SSI did the entire misdeed by themselves. By the way, anybody know if Westwood is givin' away the engine they used for those games, like id Software gave away the engine for Wolfenstein? (Love the engne, want to try to make a game with it).
David G: There's one small thing you forget: there should be a few nifty paradoxes in the Gargoyles vs. The Terminator story. How about the original Terminator idea, transferred to Gargoyles? It's the CHILD of Elisa Maza and Goliath who will be the troublemaker, not Elisa herself? Oh, well, don't mind me, I'm just hangin' around here.
Mary Flanders: Hey, you know any good, informative books about Wicca? As I'm living in Norway, most things we ever hear about Wicca is what winds up in the newspapers (like about the school where Wicca symbols etc. were banned... temporarily). I find Wicca interesting, based on the few things I have heard, some good, some bad, all pondered with a critical mind. Second-hand information I doubt slightly. Third- or fourth-hand rarely holds more than a grain of truth.
Well, gotta be going, gotta finish my breakfast, catch a shower, shave and then get to work at church, I have a service today ;) And no, I'm not a minister or a priest, just the humble... uh... I'm not sure abot the job title in English, but I think it's somewhere in the vicinity of "Altar boy".
Until later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, July 4, 1999 01:23:58 AM
IP: mp-217-238-52.daxnet.no
**RP!**
[On the Avatar of Ganon...Administrator: "The CryoBan torpedoes are finished, and three droid-operated Missile Boats have been mdified to hold twice their normal capacity of fusion bombs for a suicide attack upon the World Devastator. Much of its integrated armament is geared toward repelling capitol ships, but its fighter complement is likely to destroy any small craft that come near it. Pilot droid brains are not creative flyers; these are likely to require an escort. Also of concern is the fact that the fighters can no longer accommodate the CryoBan torpedoes due to the modifications; another ship will have to carry them." Elsewhere on the bridge, Djedi overhears the conversation. Djedi: "Need a pilot?"]
**PAUSE RP!**
Comics> Perhaps it's time I admitted that I have basically one comic--the bound edition of Dark Empire. (I'm looking for Dark Empire II and Empire's End.)
Shogun Raptor> <<Piranha beetle larva, nice but can they sing cute boy teen pop songs?>> Err...I'll send them to SJ's genetics lab and see what he can do. :)
Doug> <<Well, if you want to tell me about the mythological villains you know of, feel free. I might get some ideas from them.>> Certainly. :) I don't know if they really count as villains because they're non-sentient, but I know of a Scylla and Charybdis that reside on either side of a strait somewhere in Greece (or Italy?). Scylla is a large spider, I think, and Charybdis is...well, no one's sure, but it's been described as essentially a large stomach. When a ship happens by, Charybdis sinks the ship by sucking in a lot of water, forming a whirlpool--and, if that doesn't work, expelling it in a great wave--and when the ship sinks, Charybdis and Scylla snack on the sailors. (I'm not sure how accurate that is, because in a stunning illustration of Murphy's Law, my mind blanked as soon as you accepted my offer. I wonder if I can hold Mr. Disconnect responsible. <goes to a search engine>) Let's see, who else...Ah, yes, in ancient Egyptian mythology Asmodai (Asmodeus) was an evil spirit who killed seven husbands of Sara (whoever she is) but was driven away into the uppermost part of Egypt by Tobias. Asmodai is also represented as the prince of demons who drove King Solomon from his kingdom. (Oh, and I found Avalon in an encyclopedia of Celtic mythology, on the same site that I got the information on Asmodai.) Gaulish mythology contains a death god named Dis, from whom the Gauls are descended. And, she probably shouldn't be classified as a villain, but I thought you'd be interested: in some mythologies, Guinevere--yes, Arthur's wife--was really a cloud-goddess named Gwynhwfar who, just to be a pain in the tail, took a mortal form for the express purpose of causing havoc. Kind of like Puck before he became Owen. Soon after Arthur became king of Camelot, she entered the womb of a Roman princess whose husband ruled in Britain, and was born, as a beautiful mortal. When the company of the Round Table was broken up and its heroes disappeared into legend, Guinevere resumed her identity as Gwynhwfar, returned to the sky and has ever since been planning her next earthly manifestation. Irish mythology contains a god named Oenghus, the god of fatal love. Sounds pretty evil to me. >:) Sousson-Pannan is an evil spirit from voodoo mythology who is covered in sores and drinks spirits and blood. Ew. $<<Oh, by the way, the attack on the Devestator by drone fighter will just shut down its engine and blow a hole in the side, right? I kinda wanted to have the Ravens break in and engage Guod in a climactic fight in the thing's control room.>> Hmm...actually, I'd planned for it to destroy the Devastator if it had succeeded, but it would have failed because of the TechnoNuke. But your plan would be even better. :) $ <<I prefer tough stand-on-their-own female fighter heroines like Jessica to heroines who fight with you for a while and then become damsels in distress>> You would have liked Super Mario RPG then. It's exactly the opposite of what you cited--Princess Toadstool starts out as the cliched damsel in distress, but at some point your characters rescue her and return her to her castle...whereupon she escapes to join your party. :)
Warpmind> <<Tom Orrowman? Well, basically, he's the guy that postpones anything you NEED done today until tomorrow.>> Ah. Hm, I kinda thought Mr. Disconnect and Elsewhere Man took care of that; apparently I was wrong. Heh...he'd better not come anywhere near me. >:)
Robby> Space Usagi? I think I have a figure of him as well...<<Nokkar is involved with the MIB, of course!>> Eh? I was unaware their jurisdiction extended outside of the United States. I guess I was wrong about that too...
Jenniren> Er...none of the games you listed are for the PC, I'm afraid, unless you can find emulated copies of them. Not that I know of, anyhow, although I could be mistaken. There is a version of Final Fantasy 7 for the PC though. As for computer games...well, they're not RPG's, but I recommend Heretic 2, The 7th Guest, The 11th Hour, Myst, Riven, Dark Seed 2, The Journeyman Project 3, Starship Titanic, Phantasmagoria, Shivers 1 and 2, King's Quest 6, and The Blackstone Chronicles.
Argent> $<<What sort of medical facilities do we have/ are available to us?>> The Avatar Of Ganon's facilities are among the best in the galaxy. There are of course bacta tanks--an immune and repair stimulant, compatible with most organisms, that has a similar effect upon most life-forms that stone sleep has upon gargoyles--as well as competent medical staff and the latest model surgical droids. And if all else fails, the Borg could probably do something.$ Bats with six foot wingspans? WOW. I wonder where that species is from. <<Oooo, could someone post a link for that? Please?>> Er...it's impossible to link to stories in the GFW archive (as far as I know). The archive is back up, though (fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org if you're wondering), so you can probably find it under New Stories.
Taleweaver> <<Who knows maybe in another thousand or two years, the gargoyle species might settle on one type over the others.>> Ew, then gargs will all look the same? There's a distasteful thought.
SJ> Glad you didn't have to leave. :) $<<if someone could just tell me what exactly is going on now....I think I'm fighting Borgs or something...>> We're all fighting a Borg/Phalanx World Devastator (a factory ship that consumes the surfaces of planets) that's drilling into the Earth's core in order to assimilate it. I think.$ <<the same audience that Power Rangers now (or did...isn't that show's fifteen minutes up?) appeals to.>> For some reason, I have a feeling that Power Rangers is in its last days. I mean, not even the mecha are cool anymore.
**RESUME RP!**
[Toliana: "I hope I heard you wrong. Did you just volunteer us for a suicide mission?" Administrator: "No, he did not. Only the Missile Boats will be destroyed, if all goes well. Your task will be to protect them until they reach the World Devastator, then fire the CryoBan torpedoes into the mouth of its ion furnace." Toliana: "You're going to trust a Borg, Djedi? You do realize that a Devastator's tractor beams are powerful enough to haul in capitol ships?" Djedi: "We can destroy the beam emitters." Administrator: "Or better--I will send a squadron of TIE Defenders to destroy them first. Then you escort the Missile Boats and fire the torpedoes." Djedi: "Sounds like a plan." Toliana: "Alright. But make absolutely sure you get all the emitters. Even the Ice Dagger couldn't break out of that." Administrator: "Of course. We have little time; I will have my collective load the torpedoes on your vessel. Now go."]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:48:23 AM
IP: tnt-3-21-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
*walks in*
Evenin' all. :) It's been about two weeks since I last posted in here (though I have read a little of what people have been saying). I have been doing much soul searching these past two weeks and have found my atheism, which I have followed all my life, to not satisfy my growing spiritual needs. In the past I have ventured into the occult and found things that seemed to touch my soul and tell me, "This is what you have been looking for, you just never knew it!". I decided to follow my heart into the mystery of Wicca. I have been gathering information on it and have been reading as much basic stuff as I can.
You may be wondering how my family is taking it. Well, I told them and they are completely fine with it (though my sister thinks I'm in a cult by myself and being more strange then usual). My immediate family and my father's family are atheist but are open minded to my beliefs. My mother and father though have a hard time with the idea of buying alter equipment (ie, athame, chalice, wand, etc.) though they said they will get me music, jewlery, small things, ect. I'll have to save my money for the alter stuff. I don't believe that this will make school for me more difficult with discrimination. Everyone at my school knows an occult shop in downtown Davis called "Aquarius" and love the mystrey it brings and know the difference between Wicca and Satanism (the only form of Devil-worship in Davis is that of the high school mascot, the Blue Devil. :) DEVIL POWER!!!) I guess I'm a very lucky person to have such an understanding family and a good school.
Oh yeah, another reason why I havn't posted here is because I have summer school. Modern U.S. History (for 4 hours!). Blech!
Mary Flanders
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:41:00 AM
IP: ramp-1-10.ucdavis.edu
I'M STILL HERE!!!
Whew! Managed to weasel out of leaving for the fourth! Ah well, didn't want to go anyway. Tomorrow though, I'll get to spend the day with my sis. It's been a while since I got to hang with her, so we should be able to spend some "bonding" time. Maybe we can go check out the fireworks in D.C.
So, this means I'm back in the RP! Um...if someone could just tell me what exactly is going on now....I think I'm fighting Borgs or something...
Comics!!! I love 'em too. My usual monthly collection consists of:
Battlechasers, Crimson, Danger Girl (if and when these three come out), Daredevil (Kevin Smith, of course :), Black Panther, The Crow (cool new Image title), Mutant X, Gambit, Earth X, and Amazing Spider-Man (yeah, I know, that title's not that great, but I was raised on Spidey!). When I have a little extra cash, I may throw it on stuff like League of Extraordinary Gentleman, or Aria, or Preacher.
I too plan to begin collecting "Rising Stars", written by J.Michael Strazynski (creator of Bab 5) when it comes out starting this month. I've seen some early designs for the book, and it just looks awesome.
I enjoy limited run comics as well, but unfortunately, most comics I enjoy don't start out that way. I was a big Creeper fan, and I also enjoyed titles like Slingers, but those books have been canceled...thus, turning them into limited-runs.
TMNT Cartoon: I kind of liked it. Sure, it was no Gargoyles, and even the TMNT comic was light-years better, but I thought there were some nice elements to it, even though it was aimed for a very young audience...the same audience that Power Rangers now (or did...isn't that show's fifteen minutes up?) appeals to. I too remember the Usagi Yojimbo episodes, and I even think I have the figure buried somewhere deep in my attic. Like I said--nothing cuter than a samurai rabbit!
Paul: Was it really necessary to be such an @$$hole in your comments to JackaL? Jesus Christ, why can't you be like everyone else in the room: if you don't like something JackaL says, ignore it. Don't patronize him, he gets enought of that crap from others.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:17:59 AM
IP: 207-172-45-56.s56.tnt5.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Oops, that was me. I wrote the post first, and forgot to fill in the information at the top. I guess that's a sign that I should go to bed now.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:15:15 AM
IP: pppa33-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Very slow room today. That's OK. It clears tomorrow evening (assuming there's not a break due to the holiday) And there will be a new story. Better yet, I don't have to work Monday, so I won't be screwing myself when I stay up till midnight reading it.
Here's a couple of comments before bed:
Argent> the poem IS a song. That was a plug for my next Freelance story, which might be finished as early as monday afternoon.
(that was another one. I'm so sneaky)
Coyote> Thanks for your sympathy. I'm pretty much OK now. Sometimes the weight of the stuff I put up with just gets heavier than usual. What makes it worse is that I'm smart enough to realize I'm the caues of most of my problems, but stubborn enough not to change.
S7 did get pretty convoluted. I always had the feeling that for every issue we got to read, there were three that the writers were hiding to be annoying.
Creativity Demons> below are a few interesting crossover ideas. I don't usually do crossover stories, so, fanfic writers, steal at will. Just tell me about it so I can read your stories.
Gargoyles vs. Terminator. (Skynet's calculations indicated that only one person could stop it, Elisa Maza... To insure its domination, the computer sent back the ultimate assassin...)
Gargoyles vs. Predator. If someone hasn't done this one then I'll be really surprised.
Gargoyles and Neil Gaiman's Sandman> The only reason to do this one is the possible titles - "Sleeping Like a Stone" and "Concrete Dreams."
Anonymous
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:14:11 AM
IP: pppa33-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Oh wait! Technically it is July 4th... HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY! Ohhhh say can you seeeeeeeeee...
SOROW
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:04:11 AM
IP: usr11-dialup203.mix1.irving.cw.net
I like birds as much as the next person but... I HATE EGRETS!!!! Last year our city of Carrollton was fined $700 for destoying a hundred egret nests by bulldozing a park forest. Cause of this little incident, we were forbidden to shoot fireworks in our city this year *supposedly* since the noise and lights would "disturb" them! Screw this city! I went to a neighboring town's fireworks, but it didn't nearly compare! AAAAAHHHH!!! Now that's off my chest... don't worry, be happy. Yeah... right! And monkeys might fly outta my butt!
Argent> I really miss Calvin & Hobbes! My favorites strips were when Calvin would get really *creative* with his snowmen :)
I gotta get this nasty bug spray off me so I'll write tomorrow on a Happy Fourth! OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Sunday, July 4, 1999 12:02:33 AM
IP: usr11-dialup203.mix1.irving.cw.net
**enters the room, sweating profusely and smelling like gunpowder, changing out the candle. He doesn't light it yet, though.**
Wait for it ...
**an ash flies over his head, landing on the candle's wick perfectly and lighting it.**
There we go. Yes, there *is* a fireworks display going on in my little neck of the woods this evening, so I thought I'd give the ashes something to do. :)
Anyway, just got done sorting through my Gathering pics (Got 'em back today! WOO HOO!! Now I owe my mom $40!!!) Anyway, they turned out nicely ... if you excuse the shot of Demona May with Thom Adcox Hernandez that got obliterated by my clumsy fingers and the one I took at the airport while trying to use up the roll ... a picture I took of myself. I had no idea how it looked until I saw it today ... let's just say the look on my face says "OHH, I drank *way* too much beer!!" ;)
David G: I used to collect "Sovereign Seven" (later shortened to "S7") myself, then lost all interest in it ... I think it was shortly after Cascade returned to the team. What didn't help was that I couldn't pick up the issues on as regular a basis as I'd liked ... the second-to-last issue I picked up, I was thoroughly lost: suddenly Rampart was dead and Power Girl was a member of the team. I picked up the last issue just for the hell of it, but I'd lost it a while ago.
Also, re: your state of mind ... please, ifn's ya feel the need to vent, feel free to e-mail me.
Superheroes: Look at the ones I created for my cybercomic ... the reason why low-power level characters are so much more interesting is because they're much more complex. Not every superhero should be a god ... there is fun to be had by limitations and costs of powers: (samples I created: one character has a near-flight jumping power, the price of which being an artificially multiplied personality; the powerhouse who can't gain anonymity because he's bright purple as a result of his power gain)
Doug: You're quite welcome. :)
Robby: The overly-endowed character would be Brandy, the female lead of "Liberty Meadows." Frank Cho himself has said he's received editorial grief from his syndicate because of Brandy's bustline, but they still support his decision to endow her so voluptuously. (Of course, for those who *really* get into pinup girls, Cho also sells an art portfolio through the company who produces the LM collections titled "Cheesecake and Critters." From what I understand this collection includes two full-color nudes of Brandy.)
Sylvia: **staggers a bit under the weight of Backstreet Boys-inspired creativity spawn** Ohh boy ... I'm certainly glad I've grown a tolerance of the BB's (due to my mother's seeming regression to her teenage years ... she's also crazy for Ricky Martin). :)
Limited-run comics becoming favorites: I think I'm an expert in this field, too ... two books I collected from first issue to last of (if you ask me) **horrbly** too short runs were "Freak Force" (another fine book by Erik Larsen) and "Freex" (an Ultraverse title ... the only one I collected because the characters were so well developed and so damn *flawed* you couldn't help but like them!).
Slow room: Don't ask me, I just post here. :)
**sits back in the big chair, fixating on the candle's flame**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, July 3, 1999 10:41:42 PM
IP: modem79.i-is.com
**Robby enters humming** I am the very model of a modern major general. I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral... I know the kings of England and I quote the fights historical, from Marathon to Waterloo in order categorial...
Gee, the room is still slow tonight. Hmm.
Robby
Saturday, July 3, 1999 10:30:03 PM
IP: spider-te033.proxy.aol.com
Evolution> Just doing my part to sow confusion and disorder. Evolution isn't necessarily a one-way street. Many creatures develop similar traits for the same ecological niche. Flying squirrels and flying dragons (the lizard not the real thing)have flaps of skin between their appendages for the same purpose, to glide from tree to tree. Doubtful someone would say they are directly related because of that trait, or that either are related to Lex because he has the same wing type. Nature test with what is used to find what is needed.
Though the variety of gargoyle physical types hold with a pet theory of mine, that species go through evolutionary spurts. A period when there are widely varient species in order to find a dominant type. I believe this happened just before Homo Erectus and Homo Sapien came on the scene. There were a wide variety of anthropoids before it settled on what would become human beings. Who knows maybe in another thousand or two years, the gargoyle species might settle on one type over the others. *Fun to speculate isn't it*
But Overall, where the gargoyles comes from is of less importance as to where they are going. Just one dragons opinon.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 08:42:59 PM
IP: 132.albuquerque-06-07rs.nm.dial-access.att.net
Well, this is possibly my last post for a week, but knowing me, I'll manage another one in the morning or later tonight...
Argent- Beast Wars, and Mainframe studios in particular, uses a Canadian voice studio, (The same one that used to do Dragonball Z even) and as such, Jeff Bennet does not do any voices on Beast Wars. However, Beast Wars DOES have the incredibly talented Scott McNeil, who does the voices of Dinobot, Ratrap, Waspinator, and Tigertron. (He also did the voice of Piccolo in DBZ,) So the scenes where Ratrap and Dinobot got into arguments are really fun once you know this, because it was one guy arguing with himself...
Lexy- I think that between the text color, the pic, and the ramble on THom Adcox we all knew it was you even without the name.
As I said before, slow day... Hmm.
Robby
Saturday, July 3, 1999 08:26:24 PM
IP: spider-tp012.proxy.aol.com
Warpmind:You liked the Eye of the beholder series! they were great games that I still play every now and then,did you ever beat them?(and I couldnt agree with you more number 3 sucked the only thing good about it was the all attack button)
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Saturday, July 3, 1999 07:52:46 PM
IP: 203.29.192.74
HEY!!! I THOUGHT I had my name down!! *points below* sorry ppl's!
LEXY
Saturday, July 3, 1999 06:06:52 PM
IP: d239.hnet.net
Mandolin< OH ok sure! Do you have an ICQ number? that would be easyer then sending it through the EM. Thanks for the help!:)
Robby< *LOL* oh ok, thanks *shrugs/smiles*
*ramble*
AWWW man..Thom called me on the phone today to give me the addy of his agent so I could ship him the painting. But I was on the other line talking to someone! *growles* can everyone here say "caller ID???" *sighs* oh well..its not like I would have called him anyway..I just wanted to have his number I guess..*shrugs* hey dosnt crazy demona have it *grins* hes calling back anyway. *crosses her fingers*
**end ramble**
Anonymous
Saturday, July 3, 1999 06:01:52 PM
IP: d239.hnet.net
Argent - re your question - [Does Jeff Bennett voice a character on Beast Wars?] I don't think so. I just checked The Voice Actor Page at http://voices.fuzzy.com/ and his credits didn't include Beast Wars. Click my name to go directly to the page that lists his credits.
Jenniren
Saturday, July 3, 1999 05:50:00 PM
IP: user-2ivf22c.dialup.mindspring.com
Ghaelon: Yes, I did, assuming that you posted it under the name of Hudson around 18 months ago in S8. :) As I remember, I commented on it then. I believe I came across a heap of saved comments I'd written on Word from around that time... *shrugs*
Airwalker: Well, as Gargoyles/Pendragon past tales for Macbeth could carry a relevance to both series, so that wouldn't be too bad. Apart from that, putting both series together makes it nigh on impossible for flashbacks to be featured highly. Maybe the staff think that with Timedancer, the need for flashbacks is downplayed. I think they're mistaken if this is the case.
Ed
Saturday, July 3, 1999 05:37:41 PM
IP: p54-stint-gui.tch.virgin.net
Pistoff> You have a nasty mind. Have fun.:)
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 05:36:58 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp25.fltg.net
Um, it's kinda slow around here... :-P But maybe I'll have a better chance of actually getting into the Top Five if so many people remain missing. :-)
Blue Caeru
Florida, USA
Saturday, July 3, 1999 04:39:48 PM
IP: spider-th054.proxy.aol.com
Just a quick update. Rodlox finally removed the offending story from the archive, so the worst is over. Still, he had some major balls to put me in one of his stories without asking for permission first. Therefore, the punishment Denis and I dreamed up will go on as scheduled. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
Pistoff - [pistoff@wickedmail.com]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 04:34:18 PM
IP: wire-25.koalas.com
Since there's some discussion about comics and cartoons here, I was wondering if anyone here ever watched the syndicated animated series "Phantom: 2040" from the mid-90's. It was basically a future version of the "Phantom," a popular comic series. (There was a "Phantom" movie a few years ago starring Billy Zane, but I haven't seen it.) I really liked it, even though I didn't get to see very many episodes. I've searched for websites about it, but I've only found one or two that actually had pages dedicated to "Phantom: 2040" and not just the original "Phantom" series. Anybody know anything about it?
Heheh, I still think "Maron Yavan" sounds quite Star Wars-ish. :-)
Blue Caeru
Saturday, July 3, 1999 02:18:07 PM
IP: spider-wc042.proxy.aol.com
My Star Wars name is Colel Rymar. Sounds like one of the X-wing pilots in the book series.
We got that new Weird Al CD. Did anyone else notice in that 'Polka Power' song that the 'MMMbop' and 'Backstreet's Back' parodies sound exactly the same as their original pop versions?
STORMY & GYRE> Probably won't see this, but bye!
JEWEL> Welcome back! I was wondering where you were.
HEATHER> *waves* There's another Animorphs freak over here!
Love the book series (have every single one to date :)), not too thrilled with the show.
Also, I like your ideas for a Rocky Mountain clan!
SKIPPY> Welcome! You seem to have already made yourself at home. :)
DAVID G> Thanks for the info on copyrighting! And I really enjoyed that poem. Actually seems more like a song then a poem.
WILEK or any other RPers who might know this> $What sort of medical facilities do we have/ are available to us?$
Story originality> I heard a quote somewhere about in the entire world, there are only about four basic storylines, and Shakespeare's used all of them.
Gargs: The Lion King> Oooo, could someone post a link for that? Please?
1st 10 eps. Pendragon> Before reading those, I knew about zip concerning King Arthur and Camelot, and actually enjoyed all the flashbacks.
The Goliath Chronicles> Saw them for the first (and probably last) time last night. Ugh, it was boring and predictable. The whole time I was comparing it to Gargoyles, and it fell pathetically short. I don't know what's worse, that we don't get Toon Disney, or they choose to show TGC on the sneak peeks instead of the original.
Gargoyles Evolution> (Of course it's a cartoon show, that's what makes this debate fun!) It would make sense if gargoyles and birds shared an ancestor down the line. Check out all the different colors birds come in!
- Some types of gargoyles appear closer to dinosaurs then others. Example: Web-winged gargs (Lex) resemble Pteradactoyls, in the fact that their 'arms' are attatched to the wings, not separate. Maybe the gargoyles with separate wings evolved from the web-winged gargs.
- Someone (Something) 'creating' the gargs: Look at all the weird stuff we have on this planet in real life: Toads that shoot blood out of their eye, cicadas that live under the ground for seventeen years, multi-legged squid that squirt ink and can take on sperm whales, bats with wingspans of six feet, etc. I don't think Mother Nature would need the help or the imagination of an outside force.
Comics> I only read the ones in the newpaper. Foxtrot and Calvin and Hobbes are (were, in C&H's case) my favs.
Random Question> Does Jeff Bennet voice a character on Beast Wars?
***RP After I get an answer to my question.***
Gotta Jet! Go Tribe!
Argent (aka Tribe Fanatic)
stable, USA
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:56:07 PM
IP: dyn055-nas01.marietta.frognet.net
Comic Books> I love comic books. My favorites are:
Spider-man (though I haven't bought any since the end of Norman Osborn's return)
Conan the Barbarian> I don't buy the new stuff that Marvel passes out, but I am gobbling up back issues of Savage Sword of Conan. Conan is meant to be inked in black and white.
I also like reading:
Knights of the Dinner Table, Gambit and Slingers. However, I most prefer comics with limited runs, as the storylines are more cohesive and don't fizzle out, get forgotten, or are corrupted by if new guy takes over like many do in the mainstream comics. I was bitterly dissapointed with Operation Zero Tolerance, because I thought that the Prime Sentinels were awesome. I also liked the fact that they would become a "true" outlaw group and live off nothing but their wits and their abilities. But, Scott Lobdell was shuffled out, and a new guy shuffled in, and he restored the old boring status quo.
Ash
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:52:03 PM
IP: yktnsk01d01030198.sk.sympatico.ca
Hi folks. I'm in a much better mood today. 10 hours of sleep usually have that effect.
Wilek> Don't worry about me. That was about 75% a joke. Thanks for being concerned.
More about comics> I didn't mention these before, cause they're just about impossible to find. Anybody with good sources for indie comics should look for these titles. I have one or 2 issues each, and they're awesome.
Cold Eden
White Raven
Second Rate Heroes
Strangehaven
Jenniren (I think)> I tried the first story arc of The Dreaming, but it just didn't do anything for me. I would love to read Books of Magic, but I couldn't find it regularly when it started, and now I'm too far behind to know what's going on.
***UTTERLY SHAMELESS PLUG***
I'm in the middle of writing my second Freelance story, and I kind of backed myself into the corner of having to write a song. The musician is a completely fictional person named Glorianna, who, for reasons that should be readily apparent, is on the Quarrymen's hit list.
This is the first poem I've written since high school, and I'll probably edit it a little before the final draft, but I thought you guys might like to see it.
We came together when the pale moon brightly shone
And I had come to tell you that my love you'd fairly won
I betrayed you
How my words must have hurt you, I was wrong, If I had known
Like poison from a viper, I turned your heart to stone
Watch me as I sleep
Hold me while I'm dreaming
I'll wait all through the day
All while my heart is screaming
Watch me as I sleep
Though we must be apart
My soul is right beside you
You'll always have my heart
I never meant to hurt you, my bright and shining knight
You were my shield, my champion, defender of my right
Please forgive me
My heart was young and changing, and I was led astray
Our love I poisoned and accursed, when I sent you away
Watch me as I sleep
Hold me while I'm dreaming
I'll wait all through the day
All while my heart is screaming
Watch me as I sleep
Though we must be apart
My soul is right beside you
You'll always have my heart
The sun turns you back, my warrior of the night
My love, the silver moon and stars, your only shining light
And you love me
They tell me you're a monster, and you only mean me harm
So why do I feel such peace when I'm wrapped in your arms
Watch me as I sleep
Hold me while I'm dreaming
I'll wait all through the day
All while my heart is screaming
Watch me as I sleep
Though we must be apart
My soul is right beside you
You'll always have my heart
***END PLUG***
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:41:18 PM
IP: pppb32-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
Thank you, Robby. I knew it, just couldn't find it in my mental archive. I'll fire my old secretary and hire a new on as soon as possible. (Flirting wench, only thinkin' 'bout one thing...) ;)
Until later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:16:34 PM
IP: mp-217-229-20.daxnet.no
Thank you, Entity, it was nice of you to mention me, but you wrote Re-Emergence, I just helped you polish and fine tune.
Query: I'd like to remove some material from the Fan Fic Archive. I've written to the webmaster, but probably due to the upgrade currently on going, I've not gotten a response. My problem is the work in question was placed there before the current uploading system was put into place. Is there a default access code that will allow you to get into these files?
kathy - [kpogge@atl.mediaone.net]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:09:59 PM
IP: client24156.atl.mediaone.net
Warpmind- Patrick Stewart is the guy who plays Picard.
Robby
Saturday, July 3, 1999 12:56:28 PM
IP: spider-wb054.proxy.aol.com
Jenniren: Those games sound fine, but I wouldn't know. I never tried those; However, I have a short list of games I highly recommend.
1: Diablo, preferrably with Hellfire expansion pack.
2: FF7, or, if you rather, Final Fantasy 7. Biiiiig.
3: Phantasy Star 4 (Dunno if there's a PC version, other than the emulated Sega thingie... but the game itself is dang fun.)
4: Eye of the Beholder 1&2. There's a third, but frankly, it's a turd. (Ugh, that rhymed.)
5: LOL 1. Full title: Lands Of Lore: The Throne of Chaos. Marvellous plot, great voice acting with... uh... with... uh... Captain Picard. whatever his real name is.
Check out these titles, and thank me later, if the need is present.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 3, 1999 12:52:21 PM
IP: mp-217-229-20.daxnet.no
Hi!
Jaden-Oh man, I'm so sorry. I hope you weren't too affended.
WB- to everyone who came back!
This morning, I was thinking about this weeks ep, and the strangest thing just popped in my head. What if Sata wouldn't go on the New World Tour and, when the trio came home they were singing the Backstreets Back song. I can see it all now- "Oh my GOD we're Back again... The trios back, alright."
Okay, really weird, but heehee, just thought it was funny. ;)
Sorry again,
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 12:25:16 PM
IP: 1cust98.tnt1.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Shogun Raptor wrote: [does anyone else think that there are a lot more fey in NY who aren't gods but are living among humans like the MIB aliens?]
I think Oberon has "gathered" all the full fey back to Avalon, except for Puck/Owen and those like Anubis. But there could be "natural" halflings living among us. Some may not even be aware of their heritage. Fox wasn't.
Shogun Raptor also wrote: [why Didn't Xanatos use some of his influence to make sure Goliath got a decent public defender?]
I think this was because Goliath refused to use "special privileges" or "tricks" to aid his case. Misplaced sense of honor or something. But it's been a while since I watched the ep and I have no desire to review it to check myself. Such a stupid ep. :Þ
David G. - Hey I used to read "Poison Elves" myself. :) For a while I thought it was funny. Then it got so repetitive. Then I decided to keep my money. Now I read "Books of Magic" and "The Dreaming" and sometimes also books like "The Avengers" or whatever looks good.
Since some of you in here know a lot about video games I thought I'd ask advice. I just got a new computer - not in the same class as Doug and Kitania's, but it's an Intel II 400 and has a good video card so
I'll be able to try video games now. So what should I start with? I've never had an opportunity to play them before (my brother won't let me touch his computer). From reading this CR I have the following list:
Xenogears
Final Fantasy 2
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Are there any others I should look at? Which should I start with?
Jenniren
Saturday, July 3, 1999 11:10:48 AM
IP: user-2ivf898.dialup.mindspring.com
Aris-I see.
JackaL-Okay, we know you named yourself after a smart-mouthed person in GARGOYLES who named himself after a certain species that is distinctly, I believe, related to wolves. But if you start acting like a dog and even try to lick me I will treat you like a bad dog, nevermind possibly blast you in the face with an Ultimate Break. For now, fetch the bone, please. <Me throws a bone with explosive charges to the other side of the Comment Room.>
Heh. I'd think that response was appropriate. It wasn't meant to be offensive, though, so if anyone feels offended, I will apologize.
Doug and Kitainia-FINAL FANTASY VI had a fine Ending. As for Celes not kissing Locke, remember the line about "lover-starved twit". Although that was a mistaken comment, she is not the type of person to act like that. That would go very, very severely against her character.
As for XENOGEARS, yes, I do have more comments, but I'm too busy with BREATH OF FIRE: MYRIA'S LEGACY right now. Okay, I'll give them. Elly willingly sacrificed herself for her friends. The Game even avoided possible cliches of that tpye of sacrifice by having her wonder about whether she was selfish or not. The whole time she was withe Deus she was trying to heal Krelian's heart. She was not a damsel in distress, yeesh. She stood on her own and much more, nevermind almost had to give her life, again, this time for the planet.
As for the Review, I wasn't sure whether Tuesday's post was Commentary or a Review. Now I see it was. Thank you for clearing that one up. Although Kitainia has yet to Review the Game to that extent.
So I asked her, too.
Back to Endings, XENOGEARS is still the best Game, but I'm not sure which has the best Ending. I severely hope you don't think XENOGEARS' Ending was incomplete, it resolved everything that needed to be resolved because the rest had been resolved in the Game.
"I'll never let that happen."-Alex
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 10:34:47 AM
IP: 57.morristown-01-02rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
**Warpmind walks in, spots Robby's shirt and starts frothing.**
Aaargh... Shatner for president? Ugh, I just saw "Dead Man's Island" last night. Godawful... no acting abilities, no special effects, and no good plot to save the film. Hours wasted, that could have been put to better use... like sleep.
Thanks for reading my rant.
If you're still reading, why don't you click my name?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 3, 1999 10:31:39 AM
IP: mp-217-241-140.daxnet.no
**Robby enters wearing a shirt that says "Shatner for President!"**
Gee, quiet this morning...
Robby
Saturday, July 3, 1999 10:13:57 AM
IP: spider-ta076.proxy.aol.com
ITS STORY TIME!
A brief history on Usagi Yojimbo...
In the 80's, there was an independant black and white comic book called Ninja Turtles, and it was pretty dang popular. It even had its own animated series. (You've probably heard of it before...) There was also an independant book by Stan Saki called Usagi Yojimbo that was pretty popular, but wasn't getting much advertisment due to being an independant. Well, Eastman and Laird (The turtle guys) liked the character, and Stan Saki liked the Turtles. (Trust me, the comics were zillions of times better than the cartoon.) So, Eastman and Laird asked Stan Saki to do a story for them, so in a 8 page backup story, Stan Saki did a bonus little thing called Space Usagi, which had no relation to the Turtles whatsoever. Eastman and Laird liked, Stan Saki liked, and so Eastman and Laird (ANd their company Mirage studios) began publishing Usagi Yojimbo on a monthly basis. which was great for all parties involved. Now, since Usagi was under the Mirage imprint, and the lousy cartoon and action figures were licensing and using everything under the Mirage imprint, Usagi eventually got stuck in the lousy cartoon for two episodes. Stan Saki didn't mind, it was free publicity and Usagi was actually animated and had his own action figure, but that doesn't change the fact that well... The cartoon Ninja Turtles version of Usagi sucked. (But then these are the same brilliant folks who took the TCRI aliens and made them into Krang and created Bebop and Rocksteady... Ick.)
And that is basically the story of why Usagi Yojimbo was in Ninja Turtles. There is also a story about how Dave Sim's Cerebrus the Ardvark was in Ninja Turtles number 8...
And now a brief story about Punisher!
Marvel did not revamp the character to make him politically correct. They revamped the character because he was not selling. He almost never made the top 100, and had gone without a title for a while. (Though Punisher meets Archie was rather fun...) Now, after a serious revamp, a new artist/writer and basically, a totally different character WHO NOW HAS SIMILARITIES TO A VERY HOT PROPERTY CALLED SPAWN, Punisher hits the charts often enough n, so Marvel will stick with it.
And now a story about Liberty Meadows- They briefly used to publish that strip here, and apparently someone complained about one of the characters being... Overly endowed and the strip got pulled here. Clearly, the person or people who complained had never seen a certain strip called Blondie before.
Lexy- Ah, you were cuter than your sister. Even if you didn't catch on to the fact that my Lonny nametag was a joke...
Shogun Raptor- Ah, that cut scene explains everything! Almost... Nokkar is involved with the MIB, of course!
Wilek- Jonny Bravo is not a subject for Mr. Thingy. his old cartoons were funny and great! Its just the first new episode in a long while... Kinda sucked.
Pistoff- DOn't worry about it. I think we all knew who you meant to address, I was just joshin' with ya. (Joshin? Oh man, talk about outdated slang...)
Warpmind- Tom Orrowman... Oh geez, I can't believe I didn't see the pun before! Good one! Up in the ranks of Jim Iza Noying and Kari Kanbea Pest...
Robby
Saturday, July 3, 1999 06:06:59 AM
IP: spider-we013.proxy.aol.com
Doug: Thanks. I'll give Rodlox the benefit of the doubt because the archive was down last night and today ... even though he did have at least eight hours between the time he sent me that email and the time the archive went down. I'll give him until tomorrow night, just to be generous, and then I'll email Chris and ask him to remove that story. And then our fanfic revenge will go on as scheduled. :)
Also, I've got a new email address. Anti-social.com has been wigging out the last couple of days. The other day it deleted all the messages, and now it hasn't let me in all evening, for about four or five hours. I got fed up with it and switched to Wickedmail.com. So could you please re-send your response to my critique to my new addy listed below? I'll read your third fic tomorrow sometime and send you feedback on it; I would've done it today, but things went kinda sideways on me ...
Pistoff - [pistoff@wickedmail.com]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 04:55:18 AM
IP: wire-6.koalas.com
Please pardon the double post... THIS time my site is functional and *UPDATED*. Please CLICKIE!
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 3, 1999 04:20:20 AM
IP: mp-217-226-71.daxnet.no
Wilek: Tom Orrowman? Well, basically, he's the guy that postpones anything you NEED done today until tomorrow. He's Tom Orrowman, the Tomorrow Man! And he's caused me a lot of grievances along the way.
The Yahoo/Geocities merger: I shut off my account about an hour after I learned. Not because I had other things to do first, but because I didn't have a Yahoo! ID, and I was stuck for 45 minutes trying to get IN on my account. Now, all that remains is a Yahoo! ID never to be used again. Thus, I gotta get an FTP program here, and my page will return. To the adress you can get by clicking my name (if all went well). Cheerio, guys.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 3, 1999 04:08:56 AM
IP: mp-217-242-120.daxnet.no
**RP FULL OF VIOLENCE HERE**
The battle at Crown Point goes on, with the Avatar's forces holding the upper hand so far as they fry the enemy Borg with laser barrages. The assimilated members of Borg-Todd's gang- Sanders, Gina, and Leroy -are among the many blasted away. Borgified pterodactyls fly out of the Devestator to join the fighting TIE drones, and the fighting intensifies as the Optimal Onslaught uses its sword to decapitate an assimilated T-Rex. On the front lines, Doug, Kitainia, and the Ravens are fighting beside SJ and Kari. The latter is of course in her Athena avatar form, and has just pulled her spear out of assimilated PJs character Juicy's fat corpse. Beside them, the Hounds are leaping back and forth through the ranks of Borg-Mongols, tearing the enemy apart with their teeth and claws. Shubai Khan is tackled by one of them, knocked off his horse, and ripped to shreds. As the fighting continues, Doug hears Wilek tell him about the Administrator's plan via earpiece radio. "Sounds like it could work," he tells Wilek. "Let's keep holding these guys back to give her some time to get it set up." "Got it," Wilek agrees. Doug takes out the assimilated photographer kid from Pokemon with his shotgun as the kid tries to snap his picture, and then turns to face the CR.
**END RP 1ST HALF**
Hi everyone. Well, as you may know by now, Kit and I got a new computer. So far it's working great. Much faster than the old one, and better in many other ways as well. I'm so glad Dad got it for me, hope my sister enjoys the old computer I mailed to her today. She did need one, after all. :) Let's get on with the post.
Fanfic Progress: Unlike my old one, this new computer has a built-in spell checker on its word processing program. So my stories should have fewer editing mistakes from now on. :) As for Goblins, it's going well. I'm right in the middle of the first big action scene with the Goblin gang vs. the Steelclan. Also developing Xanatos, Nashe, Friedman, and Police Chief Sterns (don't worry, the clan's getting its development too). The story is progressing, but there's still a lot left. I hope to have it out by the middle of the month. In the meantime, I know the GFW archive is currently down, so if anybody wants to read my stories and can't get to them, send me an e-mail and I'll be happy to speed .htm copies of the fics your way.
Wilek: Well, if you want to tell me about the mythological villains you know of, feel free. I might get some ideas from them. :) $ Oh, by the way, the attack on the Devestator by drone fighter will just shut down its engine and blow a hole in the side, right? I kinda wanted to have the Ravens break in and engage Guod in a climactic fight in the thing's control room. That could be hard to do if your attack takes out the whole ship. But we don't have to do that, it's just an idea. :) $
Coyote: Thank you.
Paul: I meant Althena before she became Luna. IMO, Luna was a slightly interesting and likable character at first but after Ghaelon kidnapped her she mostly turned into a cliched damsel in distress. Not in some ways, but where it counted that's what she was. When she became the Dark Songstress, and then Evil Althena, she got a little more interesting. But once you break Ghaelon's spell she goes back to same old Luna, so that doesn't really count. I liked Luna as a character, but wish she could have had more involvement in the game. I prefer tough stand-on-their-own female fighter heroines like Jessica to heroines who fight with you for a while and then become damsels in distress (I had the same beef with Xenogears). Hope this paragraph isn't going to start an argument like Kitainia's about Ghaelon did. :)
Oh, and Kit and I have already reviewed Lunar. Check my post from Tuesday, there's a paragraph in there devoted to it.
Mandi: Glad you enjoyed Earshot so much. Whenever you can comment on ressurected heroes is fine. I look forward to hearing what you will say.
Heather: Thanks again for sending me the listing of the Rocky Mountain clan.
Pistoff: You're welcome. I'm a little upset that you've been unable to resolve the Rodlox situation, hope your revenge on him is sweet. I got your reviews and responded to them, thanks again for reading my fics.
Punisher and Demona: If the Punisher shows up in my ficverse, I will probably have him meet Demmie. A conversation between them would be interesting, to say the least. He'd probably encounter Seth and Johnny, too. :) Like Kitainia says, if he shows up it won't be as the new PC Punisher. I do not like what they have done to him (understatement alert). He'll be the type of cool guy he once was. Besides, Zeke Stone's already in my ficverse, so I can use him if I want an avenging angel type.
Superheroes: I like them most of the time. The ones with low power levels and lots of character development have always been my favorites. The Punisher (original style), Batman, Buffy, Zeke Stone, Spiderman, and the Gargs fall into this category. Superman and most of the Marvel superheroes don't. That's why I don't usually peruse their stories. :) The only comics I read on a regular basis are Buffy, Daredevil, Knights of the Dinner Table, and the ones in the newspaper.
Green Baron: Thanks. It was great rooming with you too.
SJ: Hope you can stick around, but will miss you if you leave. Whatever happens, have a great fourth. (Same goes to everyone else.)
Lady Ravyn: Welcome back! Again!! :) Hope you get things straightened out soon if you haven't yet and can return to the CR on a permanent basis. I look forward to once again frequently reading your posts.
Jaden: Welcome back, and congrats on overcoming your cold.
Final Fantasy 3: I didn't like the ending of it much either. If Celes had given Locke a quick kiss after he rescued her during the escape from Kefka's Tower, it might have been more bearable, but she didn't. :( So I was a little disappointed. Especially since I was MUCH more interested in having the various subplots resolved along with the main one than I was in finding out all the characters' last names. FF2 had the best ending of the FF games, IMO, and also the longest and most involved and complete. Hope that in the future more videogames get endings like that. (Lunar has one, and that's a good start.)
Jackal: You want to lick everyone in the CR? Sorry, I'm not going to let you do that to me. And your life will be at risk if you try to do it to Kitainia. :)
Pendragon: Good ideas about it so far. Hope that next season it goes back to being a seperate series in which flashbacks and main plot both work together well without either dominating. I'd also like to see Morgana and Corbie again, and get some more development on Duval.
Geocities-Yahoo Copyright Stuff: It pisses me off that they think they can get away with stealing people's work like that. Hope this causes a huge drain on the number of people who use their services. I know that because of this I am NEVER getting a Geocities page.
Kaioto: Good points about the Vatican. I think it's a good bet that in addition to all the spiritual power in the place, there's probably a lot of magical scrolls, relics, and artifacts in its vaults. IMO, that would definitely make Madoc want to send somebody to take the Vatican out. Wonder what kind of nifty arcane stuff the Pope has and doesn't know about. :)
Airwalker: Thanks for posting that interesting stuff about the Golem. I was grimacing and then laughing when I read about the one that kept getting bigger. :) Good points about Gargoyle Evolution, too.
BTW, Kit and I saw South Park this afternoon, so here's our review:
**SPOILERS FOR SOUTH PARK MOVIE AHEAD**
This film had a lot of surprises. We went in expecting it to be annoying and bad. Instead we got a really great movie. It actually had an interesting plot, well-developed characters (our favorites were Satan, Chef, Kenny, the Mole, and Saddam), a very well-written script, and hilarious jokes that were much funnier because they were just about all part of the storyline. The jokes illustrated the movie, but didn't dominate it. The makers of the Austin Powers films could learn something from that. <grin> The animation was kinda crudely drawn, but well done just the same. (They sure can do a lot with paper cutouts. :) The story flowed well and was interesting, with good action sequences, dialogue, and subplots. I really enjoyed the songs (my favorites were Satan's Up There and the one about Brian Boytano). Kitainia liked the film, too. Altogether, we gave it 8.5/10 stars, thumbs up. This is one we recommend.
**SPOILERS FOR SOUTH PARK MOVIE END HERE**
Well, that's all for tonight. See you guys again soon, and everyone have a great Fourth of July weekend!
**BACK TO VIOLENT RP**
As Doug turns back to assist her, Kitainia fires her rocket launcher into the enemy ranks, hitting the teenage son from Family Guy (whose name I've forgotten) and blowing him away. Elsewhere in the grand melee, Elena assumes her Liberation Angel form and fries the daughter (can't remember her name either) with a mito-energy beam. John Borgy falls to Shap's slashing sword, while Orion calls down holy fire and burns the entire horde of stupid TV admen Guod assimilated to a quickly crumbling crisp. "I think we're winning!" Jammer shouts at Doug as he fires his MAG rifle and takes out the Histeria representations of Gandhi, Julius Caesar, and William Howard Taft. "I hope you're right," Doug says.
Suddenly the ground begins shaking under their feet. Doug grabs his radio mike and asks Agent Rho what's going on. "That Devestator has some kind of seismic drill going," Rho replies. "The vibrations it's producing are mild and shouldn't affect the battle much." "That's good to know," Doug says, "but why would they be extending a drill?" "I'm not sure," Rho admits. "Judging by the vibrations, they're drilling straight down, and at the speed they're going in about six hours their drill will reach the Earth's core." "That fast, huh?" Doug grins. "Well, if it's any drill I know about, it'll melt a long time before it gets there." "I don't think they're going to have that problem, Mr. Elder," the Administrator suddenly cuts in from the Avatar station. "What do you mean?" Doug asks. "I think they could be using that drill to create a channel to assimilate our planet," the Admin replies. "Starting with the core." "But won't it melt once it reaches the mantle?" "Not if they're using Cinderian drilling equipment, which is very possible. The planet Cinderia was assimilated and destroyed by the Borg collective which originally spawned Guod. Its people had a thriving mineral industry, despite the fact that their planet's core was twenty times hotter than your solar system's sun." "Oh man," Doug gasps. "That means their drill will be built to resist heat. We'll have to stop it!" "I'm working on a way to destroy the Devestator's engines," says the Admin. "It will soon be ready. In the meantime, all you can do is keep slowing them down by killing off their armies." Doug nods. "Okay, we'll keep doing that." He hangs up and turns back to the fight.
**END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 02:50:59 AM
IP: pool-209-138-62-74.dlls.grid.net
I don't have time to make a long post but I just wanted to give a message
Sylvia-I'm a he not a she.
Jaden
Saturday, July 3, 1999 02:44:47 AM
IP: pm0-27.vpop1.avtel.net
Robby: Aaaaaaaahhh ... CRAP! Maybe the similarity in your text colors tripped me up. Also, I was distracted because I couldn't get into the fanfic archive to see what Rodlox was up to ...
Which reminds me: When I finally got in, I saw that the son of a bitch DIDN'T remove that story! That's it! He's lunchmeat! Denis and I are gonna work him over REAL good in our series. It's gonna be a prolonged punishment. We're gonna milk this one for all it's worth.
Airwalker: Gargs and pidgeons related? ROTFLMAO! Oh, and it's spelled "Straczynski." ;)
SJ: YEAH!! That was one of the lines from Preacher that really stuck in my memory. I've used variations of it on my annoying customers. ;) Hell, just about anything Cassidy says is fall-down funny.
As for "And Justice for All": I think Goliath's attorney should've been James Woods's character from "True Believer." ;)
Aaron: Umm...those links I posted earlier were meant for you. I had some kinda brainfart or something. Feel free to click away. :)
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Saturday, July 3, 1999 02:14:27 AM
IP: wire-25.koalas.com
Wilek> Piranha beetle larva, nice but can they sing cute boy teen pop songs?
and I may be out of my mind but around here who would notice?
Say who IS Tom Orrowman anyway? well I suppose that explains the survival: no one know who the devil he is
Well I saw the rest of "to serve mankind" Am i the only one who watched the E--N P-X thing and thought "what if the brainwashing goes wrong and he ends up mistakenly wasting my favorite ghostbuster? scary enough, PAX is the name of a channel down where I am that's run by utra-conservative media mogul and proselytizing b@stard Bill Paxton, who I wouldn't mind seeing goliath take down, come to think of it, I'd rather see Demona do it: No chance of a sudden attack of mercy
shogun Raptor
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:29:53 AM
IP: ppp-44.mia-tc-4.netrox.net
**RP!**
[Administrator: "CryoBan? Why?" Wilek: "We could use torpedoes to launch it into the ion furnace of that World Devastator! I know it sounds kind of dumb, but hear me out--heat-resistant torpedoes deliver the stuff into the World Devastator's ion furnace, cooling it to just below tolerance levels just long enough for a droid fighter to deliver a fusion bomb right into the heart of the machine! The fighter would be destroyed, but by that time, the damage would be done! How could it go wrong?" Administrator: "We know of no material capable of withstanding a World Devastator's ion furnace, except possibly neutronium, and that would be difficult even for us to manufacture." Wilek: "Hm...it wouldn't have to last long, just long enough to spray the CryoBan." Administrator: "There may be a way..."]
**PAUSE RP WHILE I KILL A FEW (hundred) PEOPLE**
[In the headquarters of the new merged Yahoo Geocities, the employees work away their industrially shortened little insignificant lives, having no idea what's about to happen to them. As, on a nearby hilltop, several hundred Borg velociraptors and xenomorphs gather in a herd, waiting for the signal to strike, and free the owners of literally thousands of web pages from theft on a grand scale. Somewhere in the vastness of space, the Queen of this collective gives a signal, and the beasts charge, barreling inexorably toward their target. They reach the building, the xenomorphs using their acidic venom to weaken the doors that the invasion force may break through. The assimilated creatures go on a bloody rampage, tearing apart and eating every living thing they come across, assimilating only the select few who are absolutely necessary for running the companies. Soon, the building has become a hideous abattoir, caked in blood and viscera, chewed bones lying scattered on the floors, the web servers being the only things not covered in gore, and that was merely for technical reasons. Under Wilek's orders, the Borg have massacred virtually the entire Yahoo/Geocities workforce.]
**PAUSE DEATH**
Punisher Revamp> I know almost nothing about the Punisher, but I do know that this new version sounds pretty lame. I wonder why Marvel is doing this. I mean, change is good, but don't mess with a formula if it works well the way it is. TGC learned that the hard way.
Pistoff> <<There was one about a construction worker who fell and landed on a power drill, and the bit jammed into his head. He had to walk into an apartment, look in the bathroom mirror, put the drill in reverse and back it out of his skull!>> DANG.
Kyryn> <<Please provide the new URL for your page when you get everything set up>> Actually, it'll have the same URL as my old one (welcome.to/wilekslibrary); it's a redirect URL that I can simply set to point to the new location. :)
Aaron> <<I still like Cyrway's theory about Angelic/Demonic crossbreeding.>> <blink> So we gargs are kind of related to Genesis (from Preacher)? <<Speaking of which, does anybody know if the archive accepts things in rich text format?>> Err...no, just TXT and HTM*.
Warpmind> <<Out of curisity, why has Tom Orrowman been allowed to live for as long as he has, when DC and Elsewhere Man are killed on a daily basis?>> Who's Tom Orrowman?
SOROW> <<We're talking about people ripping each other's faces off... and me driving like a bat outta hell!>> Ack...I don't think I've ever had any really violent dreams (surprising, considering how I think), but that...*ew*.
Oh, and happy 4th/Canada Day/whatever else is celebrated about this time of year. :)
Jackal> Download your tongue, eh. Heh...for once, I have no idea what to say here. :)
Airwalker> What they did in that spoiler bit...*wow*. And I thought I was twisted. >:) And extremely kewl evolution bit. <<Which is really funny if you think about it. Gargoyles and pigeons being related.>> Heh...sibling rivalry? :P
SJ> Usagi Yojimbo? There's a comic about him? Wow, I thought he was just a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles character. I think I have an action figure of him.
Robby> Johnny Bravo? Another test subject for Mr. Thingy. >:)
Shogun Raptor> You're aware, of course, that you're completely out of your mind. ;P
David G> <<I've been having a lousy day, and I'm in this wierd psychological place where I'm not suicidal, but I kind of wish I was.>> Um...ack. I have no idea what to say to someone in a situation like yours, I'm afraid; I've never been good at cheering ppl up...
**RESUME DEATH**
[The massacre at Yahoo Geocities is broadcast to a vidwindow in a secret hideout, where a horrified Mr. Disconnect, Sli Sludge, and Elsewhere Man watch in horror, chained to the walls, knowing that the perpetrator of this atrocity will come for them soon. Sure enough, the gargoyle stalks into the dungeon, with a wide variety of blades and other implements of torture hanging from what looks like a toolbelt. "Well, well, well. The three of you have been busy these past few days. Mr. Disconnect, you have apparently denied the fandom access to the Gargs-Fans Fanfic Archive, as well as perpetrating the Yahoo/Geocities madness. That...was a Very Bad Idea. I'm afraid I'm going to have to punish you." Wilek takes a hammer and chisel from his toolbelt and uses them to crack open DC's skull, exposing his brain. He slices open the brain and pours in several pirahna beetle larvae, then reattaches DC's skull, using steel cable to sew it firmly back into place. Wilek: "When those grow to maturity, they'll have to burrow out of your head. Enjoy." Wilek then moves on to Sli Sludge. "Now, I wonder who could have made my allergies flare up yesterday. Was it...you? I kind of thought so. Why don't I give you a...taste...of some of your own weaponry." Wilek wheels in a tank full of foul looking liquid, rips off SS's surgical-style mask, and sticks a tube running from the tank in SS's mouth. Wilek: "This is full of raw sewage. Vorox exim’ha, and bon appetit." Wilek switches on a pump, and the literally sickening substance goes right down SS's throat. Wilek: "And now you. Elsewhere Man. For a very, very long time now, I've wanted to meet, face to face, the being who's kept me away from Gathering after Gathering, not to mention making me miss almost every single episode of Reboot Season 3. And now, here we are. By the Dragon, I shall enjoy this..." Wilek wheels in Mr. Thingy, types something into its console, unspools what looks like an IV tube from its equipment rack, and attaches it to EM's arm. Wilek: "This is configured to inject a steady stream of hydrochloric acid into your bloodstream. Have fun." The press of a button, and the corrosive substance begins flowing down the acidproof tube and into EM's veins, eliciting long, loud screams from him.]
**END DEATH AND RESUME RP!**
[Administrator: "A simple bomb, containing a volume of hyper-pressurized CryoBan. When the shell is destroyed by the heat of the World Devastator's ion furnace, the CryoBan will be released and the vessel in question can enter to destroy the machine. The shell would need to last only long enough to deliver the chemical." Wilek: "Great! I'll tell Doug about this; you get to work on the torpedoes!"]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, July 3, 1999 01:11:00 AM
IP: tnt-2-33-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Hi folks. I'm back. It's late, and I'm tired, but I don't want to go to sleep, so instead I'll make pointless comments.
Comics> My monthly reading list consists of:
Aria - on a trial basis. It'd better hurry up and impress me.
Generation X - cause I liked New Mutants before the demon Leifeld messed it up.
Earth X - cause I wanted to see if Marvel would do it as well as DC did - they aren't yet, but I think the whole 'there is no good, no evil, thing will turn out to be important. The Watcher is bitter after the loss of his eyes.
Crimson - which had better hurry up and impress me again, or better yet slow down a little and let me be impressed instead of overwhelmed.
Dark Minds - which isn't really manga, but it's close, and the page layouts are easier on my western trained eyes.
Promethia - which is Moore, instead of Gaiman, but you take what you can get.
I used to read:
Soveign 7 (sp?) - which was interesting, convoluted, and cancled.
Sandman - which was awe inspiring, moving, and cancled.
Impulse - which used to be good.
Poision Elves - which I used to think was good even though Drew Hayes needs Prozac ( I can't complain, I need Prozac, too.)
More on Gargoyles and Evolution> I've been reading other people's comments, and I decided I'm not so sure about the Outside Influence theory. I was never sure about it, which was why it was a theory, but now I'm leaning away from it. My first impulse was based on my thinking as a Game Master. If the gargoyles were a created species, then there were all kinds of story possibilities. Now I'm considering how the idea would effect previous material. The gargoyles being 'created' might cheapen them somehow. I don't know...
Random, probably sleep deprived, musings:
> I'm thinking of taking two weeks off in August or September and trying to write a novel.
> I've been having a lousy day, and I'm in this wierd psychological place where I'm not suicidal, but I kind of wish I was. Have any of you ever been there?
Oh well, I'm getting both weird and maudlin. I think I'll stop now.
Good night. Sweet dreams.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, July 3, 1999 12:42:19 AM
IP: pppb24-resalefortworth2-2r1005.saturn.bbn.com
***RESUME RP****
As the sun sets over the battlefield, the oversized statues of the clan begin to crack, suddenly they shatter, revealing huge mechas that bear a haunting resembelance to Hudson, the Trio and Goliath
Shogun took one look at the mechas, muttered the japanese equivalent of "oy vey" and leaped into the cockpit of the goliath mecha, cursing his fate having to stoop to such ridiculous tactics
"Shogun to clanmechas"
"Mecha-brooklyn, Fenrir here, ready to maul mickey"
"Mecha-lexington, Flypside here, looks like the sith's gonna hit the fan"
"Mecha-brodaway, Abel here, I can't think of anything clever to add"
"Mecha-hudson, Doc Congo here, let's finish this soon, i feel so dirty"
"Agreed, Bring them together, time to use yet another cliche"
The robots began to transform into armor and they attached to the goliath mech, transforming into a bad approximation of Goliath with the eye of Odin, with Lexington acting as a giant shield attached to one arm, Shogun took stock of the situation
"well, when in rome, TIME TO USE THE MECHA-BRONX CRUSHER!"
"RIGHT" responded the others in unison, a massive Bronx mecha descended from the heavens, the Lex mecha's head and neck extended to the length of its tail as one wing rotated 180 degrees, the Odinized goliath mecha raised the arm with the lex-blade and picked up the mechabrons with the other, the lex-blade began to spin, lifting the conglomeration of mechs high into the air like a demented helicopter blade
**pause RP***
Well I saw the two TGC eps on the toon disney preview, now I know how Dante felt at the gates of hell, thankfully I missed most of "to serve mankind" and I can definitely say only an idiot wouldn't notice the writing quality drop, for one thing, witty one liners in battle do NOT fit coming from Goliath, secondly, is it me or since when does the clan use kung-fu?, and while I'm at it, in "and justice for those who can afford a good lawyer" they said that big lavendar's prints were on the weapon that made the hole in the storefront, and yet they didn't notice that someone like him wouldn't NEED a gun to do that kind of property damage, he could rip a hole in the wall the size of what the gun did using his bare hands, and why did they use the old "bookworm lady public defender" cliche' again? I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm GLAD I missed most of TGC, although the CGI was kinda nice in small doses, those doses being that CGI rendering of they eyrie in the openingm and even the opening sequence is kind of nice, but I've always been a CGI animation freak, while I'm at it, why Didn't Xanatos use some of his influence to make sure Goliath got a decent public defender, maybe an exiled fey or something, which reminds me, does anyone else think that there are a lot more fey in NY who aren't gods but are lving among humans like the MIB aliens, speaking of aliens, check this out
SCENE CUT FROM "SENTINEL" The real reason Nokkar has had such little human contact
Archeologis: well what do you know? aliens do exist!
K: how do you do? we're from the Easter Island chamber of commerce, division 6
**RESUME RP***
The mecha-whetever flew up a few thousand feet, disengaged the lex-blades and dropped like a stone, one big pyrotechnic explosion, all that was left of Mickey maul was a set of mouse ears and a double-bladed lighsaber, Shogun took the lighsaber and pocketed it, the gargmechs, needing no sentai cliche to counter, vanished, all breathed a sigh of relief, suddenly, Haim Saban's voice thundered over the rockpit"YOU MAY HAVE TAKEN OUT A FEW OF MY ACQUISITIONS, BUT I SHALL NOT BE SO EASY!! PREPARE YOURSELF!!!!
**End RP for now**
Shogun Raptor
Saturday, July 3, 1999 12:34:52 AM
IP: ppp-44.mia-tc-4.netrox.net
*LOL*
SJ< so ya like hey? yes I think the loin cloth thing works with her very nicly. she wanted to wear a costume ..but on such short notice i didnt know what to say..so I quick decided she could definatly be a fey for one..and put together the pink loincloth and sparkles since she has such a nice body it would look great. *bows* glad you like *LOL*
lexy
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:56:15 PM
IP: d241.hnet.net
COMIC BOOKS- I used to read Young Justice but I was never really that close to DC comics and I needed to drop a book from my list so that was the first one to go. Here's my list as of this month:
Avengers, Avengers Forever, Thunderbolts, Generation X, Mutant X, X-Force, Spider-Girl, Earth X, Planetary, Authority, and Martian Manhunter.
I also get A-Next and J2 but they are being cancelled with issue #12. I'll be replacing them with Fantastic Five and Wild Thing.
I still flip through Fantastic Four but only buy it if it really, really interests me. And it hasn't in the last few months.
Also I get Slingers but it's getting cancelled as of issue #12.
Finally, this month Rising Stars starts. That's the comic series being written by the same guy who wrote Babylon 5, you know, J. Michael Strazinsky (I think that's the spelling for his last name). I'll be picking that up.
GARGOYLES BEING "MODIFIED" - It's entirely possible that some outside force arrived on earth and interfered in the evolution of a couple of species that eventually became Humans and Gargoyles. I'm not entirely against it as long as we're applying across the board, and not just to one race (Gargoyles) over another (Humans).
But while I'm not against it, I'm not exactly for it either. I think that it is possible that the question of Gargoyle evolution can be answered without resorting to an outside source interfering. There are some flaws in the theory that I posted earlier that have been pointed out in the other comment room, but they can be compensated for. (I'll post more on that in the other room.)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:55:17 PM
IP: 201.new-york-28-29rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Gargoyles evolution - 6 limbs versus 4. Actually I recall reading something about a polluted lake which was filled with frogs with extra legs. Maybe the space spawn were careless with their waste water when they visited.
Star Wars names - I think it was the first 3 letters of your first name, not the first 2. That usually makes the name easier to pronounce.
Jenniren
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:52:53 PM
IP: user-2ivf2as.dialup.mindspring.com
*runs in*
your sorta right. She is my "soon to be stepsis".
:) *runs out*
Lexy
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:52:27 PM
IP: d241.hnet.net
**pauses his fixation for a moment**
SJ: IIRC, and don't stone me if I'm wrong, people, but "Fay 2" is Lexy's sister. Am I correct, Lexy? (I do recall that she was Bizarro's assistant during the pyrotechnic part of his performance)
**returns to fixation.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:21:12 PM
IP: modem56.i-is.com
Well, still here it seems. There's a small chance I'll be able to weasel my way out of going....but then again, I may still wind up leaving, in which this could be my last post for a few days.
Oh, and Kitiana, if you're reading this, you can include me in you RP. If I wind up staying put, I'll RP in a day or two, but even if I don't, you can use my characters as you see fit. :)
JackaL: I LOVED that wav file! I'm sitting here laughing my ass off!!! "You're gonna get licked, muthaf***a!" Love the accent too, BTW. And was that Deftones in the background? Oh well, I enjoyed my lick. :)
Gargoyles being "Modified": This actually spawned an interesting creativity demon for me. Remember back in "Sentinel" when Nokkar mistook the Gargoyle race for the Space Spawn? What if this was the case because the Space Spawn, millenia ago, came to Earth and "experimented" on some of the resident wildlife (let's say they were dinos) to "evolve" them into a lifeform that resembled their own? Hmmm? Not saying that it'd ever happen, but an interesting little CD, I think.
Interesting comments made about dinosaurs, also. Personally, and this stems from my religious/creationist beliefs, I think that they were either a)a species that has now become extinct (except for possibly the still unknown regions of the world) or b)a species that mankind, for its own survival, drove into existence. Of course, there are arguments by some creationists that point towards certain passages of the Bible to show the proof of the existence of dinosaurs, namely the passages in Job dealing with Leviathan and Behemoth (although it is just as likely, if not more so, that those legendary beasts were not some form of prehistoric saurian).
Pistoff: I agree with you about Superman. He's never appealed to me, really. I mean, he's superstrong, superfast, has x-ray vision, heat vision, is damn near invincible, gets killed and resurrects in a lame fashion....he's a GOD. Personally, I've never liked god characters to be the main protagonist in any story. Now Batman, he's the man!
And I too love Preacher. I find the supernatural stuff pretty cool, though, although it is often overshadowed by the rest of the content of the book (gunfights, serial killers, etc.). And I must say, Garth Ennis writes some of the best dialogue in comics, period. For instance, one of Cassidy's quotes from early in the series: "Curiosity didn't just kill the cat, it cut off its head and stumpf***ed the remains!" I swear, for me at least, the book is worth is for the dialogue alone.
Airwalker: I enjoy most everything else about Earth X (Richards as Doom, Cap America the new Red Skull, Banner and the Hulk, the Inhumans, etc.). It's just the Watcher/X-51 commentary that upsets me. But I'll try to take your advice and read it like there's a ultimate purpose involved. :)
Comics: A couple people have named "Liberty Meadows" and "Usagi Yojimbo". Glad to see others who enjoy these. Liberty Meadows is, IMO, one of the funniest strips today, and I look forward to reading it every morning. Frank Cho has a wicked sense of humor! And Usagi Yojimbo is one of the better independent comics out there. It's very well done, and besides, what's cuter than a samurai rabbit? ;)
Gathering Pics: Saw the photos that Rose put up in the other CR...Some great pics, guys! I loved all the costumes, and only wish I could have been there to have seen them in person. Becca was cute, it was good to see Thom and Greg (nice beard growth!), Green Baron your Vogel was perfect, and yes, Lexy is sexy!!!
But I gotta ask....does anyone know who the certain young lady listed as "Fay 2" is? Wow....loincloths do her justice. And...um...TIG OL' BITTIES!!!
Sorry, that was juvenile (but true). :)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:14:18 PM
IP: 207-172-44-28.s28.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
My Star Wars name> Joer Nitor. I think it has a nice ring to it. Almost rhymes. ;)
Well, while I'm in here I'll say thanks to everyone for their positive comments on "Re-Emergence Part 1". A key player in this story's production was Kathy Pogge. She really helped to mold the story into what it wound up as.
I hope you all enjoy what's to come. :)
Entity
Friday, July 2, 1999 10:47:58 PM
IP: 206.216.59.39
Preparing for my annual week long trip to San Angelo... One of the fun tasks every year is seeing how many animated videos can fit into one back and still leave room for clothing...
Geocities/Yahoo merger- Gee, never thought I'd see the day where AOL actually looked good.
Paul- Square should have made it so that even at level 99 Kefka was difficult to kill, and darn near immpossible to kill at level 40 or so. Besides, I didn't do that much building. My characters were already at level 80 when I was ready to face Kefka, a little more building was only a bit of work. And the ending still stunk. It didn't resolve anything. (Namely the Locke and Celes relationship.) But clearly you think it was a good ending, so I'll leave you to that opinion.
Garg evolution- It's a television show. I don't care where they came from. It's enough that they're there.
COmic books- Lets see... My monthly line up consists of Sonic the Hedgehog... Which sucks at the moment, I'm wwaiting for it to get better again...
Knuckles the Echnida, which is a great book, so naturally its being cancelled...
No X-Men books, I swore off of Marvel during the Hunt For Xavier thing last December.
DC has one title I pick up, Young Justice...
Dragonball and Dragonball Z I pick every month because they're good reads, well drawn, have an epic story, and I like the show.
Earth-X I've dodged because of the HORRIBLE artwork.
Gold Digger, the best friggin' comic book ever made... Now in color!
Golem- What's interesting is, Gargoyles and Jonny Quest both had episodes on this topic at pretty much same time...
Pokemon- Today's episode was cool. Pikachu battled his own evolved form, Raichu! Neat!
Pistoff- Why'd you give ME a link to RTF2HTML and Wordpad? Aaron needed it, not me... Yeah, we're both from San Antonio and like Gold Digger, but we're not that much alike are we?
Jonny Bravo- After waiting a LONG time to see new episodes, I tune in tonight to see a new episode, and immediatley notice the opening intro has changed. GOod sign, it means they've ordered a lot of episodes. The down sides being they've messed with the art style, replaced his sidekick little Suzie with some nerd character, and the writing isn't half as good as it used to be. Ah well...
Anyhow, I should be here tommarrow to post, but if I'm not, oh well...
**BRIEF RP**
Jim Iza Noying looks directly at the large Polar Bear, and gulps. As if the short guys with the daggers weren't bad enough... And suddenly, a pair of arms grab the polar bear from behind, and throw it. A mysterious figure jumps on the bear and wrestles with it for a moment, and then gets up to greet Jim.
"ARE YOU NUTS?"
"Sure am." Jim looks closer, and recognizes his rescuer as Steve Irwin, Crocadile Hunter.
Robby
Friday, July 2, 1999 10:40:10 PM
IP: spider-wa031.proxy.aol.com
Coyote the Bando> No problem. :-) I probably should have been clearer anyway.
My Star Wars name: Maron Yavan. Not too bad, I guess. :-)In this case I used my place of birth, Vancouver, rather than my hometown or where I'm living right now for college because my hometown's first 3 letters are kinda perverted and my college town's first 3 letters would render the last name either unpronouncable or stupid-sounding. ;-)
Can't wait for the new ep. :-) And Happy Fourth of July weekend, everyone!
Blue Caeru
Friday, July 2, 1999 09:50:01 PM
IP: spider-tn072.proxy.aol.com
Sylia > I got my Star Wars name : Heet Smwar. I sound like the bad guy!
Don't laugh at my name!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 09:11:44 PM
IP: 98a6b38a.ipt.aol.com
**enters the room, switching out the candles quickly. After blowing out the candle left by Ravyn, places it in his pocket, alongside the candle from the *last* post Ravyn made**
Ahh ... life is good. :) (And considerably cooler ... forgot to mention two nights ago that I'd gotten a haircut ... six months of hair growth, kiss it goodbye!! ;)
Kitainia: Pentium 550?! That's some serious hardware there, mein freund. ;)
Oh, and as far as Ravyn's home situation goes, I don't think she's quite out of the woods yet ... **scans Ravyn's post, checks IP addy** Yep, looks like it's *not* her home server. Though I *am* hoping that it does normalize soon.
Blue Caeru: Ahh, my mistake, mea culpa.
Wilek: I use the File Manager site to edit my site, also depending on what I want to do ... HTML editing I can just use IE, but for uploading files I use Netscape.
**POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE MATERIAL AHEAD ... DON'T BLAME ME, BLAME P. N. ELROD FOR THIS ONE!!**
Pistoff, re: revenge in fics: You'll have interesting payback on him, I believe. Of course not quite as creative as P. N. Elrod talked about at the fic panel last Saturday ... everyone who was there should remember the character she named to get revenge on TSR and actually made it into the finished product (Taey Myssup ... spell it backwards and you'll figure it out.).
**END POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE P. N. ELROD NAME BIT!!**
Photos: Heh ... someone by the name of Rose posted some photos in the other room. It was just as I feared ... the makeup I used made me look more like Jaundice Boy than Rain. :)
Ah well ... I'm just glad nobody was expecting perfection ... though after that Graeme costume, I'm not so sure now ...
Mandi: **crosses fingers** Good luck with the camera!
JackaL, re: website: Errh ... uhmm ... gee ... when I find the time I'll stop by. :)
Comic reading selection: My monthly reading adds up to the following books, and/or any tie-in or special issues of them:
Young Justice (It's not as bad as Wizard says it is.)
Robin
Generation X
Aria (EXCELLENT book if you're a Third Race fan, beautifully done when it's on time)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Liberty Meadows (just recently released its first issue ... they're mini-collections of the newspaper strips).
**sits down and back in the big chair, fixating once more on the candle ... hoping she'll breeze through again. ;)**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, July 2, 1999 08:51:38 PM
IP: modem56.i-is.com
KYRYN - I understand completely but let me suggest two titles that every comic book reader should be reading - THE AUTHORITY and PLANETARY. They are both Wildstorm books and yes I know that usually Wildstorm equals crap, but these two books are different. THE AUTHORITY is best described as 'What if the JLA actually got up off it's ass and decided to do something constructive instead of enforcing the same old status quo.' It's a great book and the art is fantastic. Issue 4 just came out two weeks ago concluding the first story arc. It's easy to find and is worth the money.
PLANETARY is an exploration of a hundred years worth of secret superhero history in the Wildstorm Universe. But outside of some references to THE AUTHORITY (both books are by the same person - Warren Ellis) there's no contact with Wildstorm. It's basically about taking the known concepts of superhero comics and reinventing them. For example:
SPOILERS FOR PLANETARY PREVIEW IN GEN 13 #33 TO FOLLOW.
As I was saying, for example the idea of The Hulk was taken for a short preview story here. It follows basically more or less the same route for the beginning of the story - Man invents bomb, man becomes exposed to bomb, man turns into a rampaging monster - it sounds pretty boring, much like just another dumb hulk story. But it's not. The last two pages completely turn everything around, when they reveal the fate of what the army did when they actually caught this 'Hulk'.
They put the captured hulk at the bottom of a dark deep hole that was burned out by a nuclear weapon and kept him there without food and water until he died. They put him in there in 1963. He died in 1982.
SOROW - The two episode that will be on the Disney Channel tonight are both TGC - TO SERVE MANKIND and AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
GARGOYLES AND EVOLUTION -
Kyryn wrote : [Seems to me that the hardest explanation for it is the difference between being 4 and 6 limbed. Most flying species that have evolved on this planet have modified the forearms into wings. It's that extra limb set and joint set that are the hardest to me to explain without genetic tinkering or magic being involved. ]
Actually now that you mention it, I discovered something very interesting today. As I said in my last post, there was a famous dinosaur fossil that showed a dinosaur with many aspects of birds which eventually led to the theory that birds are really descendents of dinosaurs. The name of that dinosaur is ARCHAEOPTERYX.
Now why is this important in light of what you brought up? Well, as I looked at a drawing of the Archaeopteryx in comparision with a modern pigeon, I noticed something very interesting. It appears to have it's main forearms turning into wings, but it also had what looked like two regular arms. Imagine it like a Raptor from Jurassic Park except with feathers and two wings on it's back folded up like a pigeons.
This gives us some evolutionary evidence that it might have been possible for Gargoyles to have branched off from the Archaeopteryx. They went one way in evolution and the rest turned in pigeons. Which is really funny if you think about it. Gargoyles and pigeons being related.
There are other similarities which should be brought up.
There is first a strong possibility that some dinosaurs might have been warm blooded like Gargoyles probably are. If the Archaeopteryx developed into a pigeon then it could have been warm blooded.
Also Gargoyle feet bear a strong similarity to those of the Archaeopteryx, both being 3 digited with a small claw on the back.
For many dinosaurs it took a very long time for hatchlings to turn into adults, which is the same as with Gargoyles, although with Gargoyles, it's more because they age half as fast as humans and if they aged at the same rate then child to adult growth might be the same.
Gargoyles are multi-colored, and it is possible that dinosaurs were as well. If dinosaurs did evolve into birds then by looking at birds we can discover if dinosaurs were bright colored or if they were just the plain old green and brown of ordinary reptiles. If we look at the exposed skin on the eye and feet of a bird, then we can see that they often have brightly colored and/or patterned skin, which makes it possible for dinosaurs to have had the same. Since Gargoyles are various kinds of colors from all across the rainbow, it's possible that this is a remenent of a dinosaur heritage.
Also the Archaeopteryx had long and hooked claws, typical for tree climbing. Now look at Goliath's claws in DOUBLE JEOPARDY when Elisa is holding his hand while Owen tends to his wound to get DNA for Thailog's birth. They look kind of hooked. There would be some difference between a Gargoyle and an Archaeopteryx but the point is that there is a similarity.
It seems that I have a strong case for Gargoyle evolution from Dinosaurs.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, July 2, 1999 08:08:01 PM
IP: 178.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Ohhh..., I forgot to use spoilers...,
My last post contains "offensive" material..., so if you're offended by....., whatever it is I just wrote..., don't be.. I mean, you can be..., but... this is a warning not to read what you just read. ok bye.
jackal
Friday, July 2, 1999 07:28:55 PM
IP: spider-ti014.proxy.aol.com
Hello everyone!
Here's a personal update if yall wanna know..., Yall remember that girl I was tellin you about? Well..., I lost interest after sex, because she said, "don't tell anyone". So now I guess I'm her secret lover now or something..., i don't know..., she confuses me :o(
I called up 104.7 (r&b radio station here), and requested the Atlantic Star song "Secert Lovers". And dedicated it to her! Awww!!!
OK! Guess what!
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And please don't joke on the way I talk, please?! If I'm not mistaken I said the "mf" word so..., use caution..., that's the only "bad" thing in there... aside from my tongue.., but I don't think there's anything wrong with my tongue... Download me!! Oh, yeah.., my baby girl's in there too... well gotta run..., see yall soon!!
JackaL
Friday, July 2, 1999 07:25:38 PM
IP: spider-ti014.proxy.aol.com
Robby: Oopsie! This one works ...
Pist - [This one works. Really. heh. ..]
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:46:23 PM
IP: wire-21.koalas.com
Robby: And here's the one for Cetus CWordpad ... :)
Pissy once again
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:45:24 PM
IP: wire-21.koalas.com
Robby: Okay, here's the link for RTF2HTML ... :)
Pissy
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:41:40 PM
IP: wire-21.koalas.com
Okay, people, brace yourself for my Star Wars name ...
Frns Brcoo!! Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick!
Shogun Raptor: Your Punisher War Journal entry had me ROTFL!
Kyryn, Sylvia: Thanks, but ... read on ...
Rodlox Situation: It may not be over yet. I still haven't been able to get into the archive to verify that he removed that story of his. That's not what has me worried, though. Last night he emailed me and said that he'd put ME in one of his other damned stories!! Without my permission, without my knowledge, he put me in one of his stories! I've been dying to get in there and see what he did to me. Denis and I had a punishment ready for him in our own series, but we decided to back off now that he agreed to take down that story. But now that he's molesting me in another story, all bets are off. Stay tuned to Gargoyles 2K for the next few weeks, and you'll see Rodlox's punishment begin! BWAHAHAHAHAH!
Aaron: I don't think the archive accepts rich text format. As far as I know, it only accepts plain text, .html, and .htm files. But if you have Cetus Cwordpad or Word 97, you can just save the stories as .html documents and you're ready to rock. In case you don't have one of those, I'll pop back in later with links to sites where you can download Cetus CWordpad and RTF2HTML, which converts rich-text files into html. :)
As for your comments on the Punisher: Right on!! I never could stand superhero comics, especially stuff like Superman. Some guy in a pansy-ass costume with bright red shorts and a cape flying around, bulletproof, pretty much invincible. That may have been fine back in the 20s or 30s, but readers are a bit more sophisticated nowadays. :P
Actually, I haven't bought many comics for reasons I've listed earlier. But my absolute favorites are Preacher and The Hacker Files. The supernatural stuff in Preacher often bothers me, but the book is so damned funny! And the Hacker Files ... oh man! My all-time favorite! In case you haven't read this one, check out the message on the heroe's (Jack Marshall) answering machine: "This is Jack Marshall. I'm busy. Leave a number, maybe I'll get back to you." BEEP! ;)
And ... you look like Koz. I still can't get over that. That's so friggin' cool! If Gargs 2K ever becomes an animated series, maybe you'd do Koz's voice? :)
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:12:29 PM
IP: wire-21.koalas.com
Gahaleon--Aladdin the series
Jenna
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:04:15 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Hey, a little help here?
I just got done reading "The Darkest Hour, Part One." While I'm gonna read the conclusion tonight, one thing is still REALLY bothering me. In the episode, Graeme says,
"Semi-phenomenal nearly-cosmic?"
Now I KNOW I've seen that phrase before and I can't think of where I saw it. Will anyone please tell me where it's from so that I can get some sleep tonight? Seriously, not being able to figure out where I saw this will bother me for days.
Thanks for the help. (I hope.)
Ghaleon
St. Louis, Missouri
Friday, July 2, 1999 05:01:21 PM
IP: gatekeeper1.solutia.com
Okay, I'm really sorry for the 3x post, but I really want to give credit to where it goes.
Jaden was the one who found how to make the Star Wars names and she posted it somewhere in Thursday, I was just telling Heather how to do it. ;) just didn't want to pretend like I thought it up.
Aris Katsaris- I have a weird thing of believing in evolution and creation *shrugs* and I was not trying to make the gargoyles seem less superior to any of the races. I was just pointing that phrase out because it was the first thing that popped in my mind.
That should be it for today (hopefully I didn't forget anything else *crosses fingers*
Pheonix
Sylvia
Friday, July 2, 1999 03:04:53 PM
IP: 1cust180.tnt5.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Paul> I was simply responding to your sentence: "Aris, you review Iskow's Fanfiction, eh? I'll have to check out those reviews."
Gargoyles evolution> Greg has fully covered the whole subject of Gargoyles evolution. If you believe that god created humanity, then you must also believe that god created gargoyles. Gargoyles and Humans are equals and saying that the fays created gargoyles seems to me as distasteful as saying that the fays created humans.
If you believe in evolution (as I do) then you must also believe in evolution for the gargoyles.
Gargoyles weren't "created" anymore than humans were. If you can stomach the idea that an outside force (like Aliens or fays or God or whatever) created humans, then have that same force create gargoyles. Don't make gargoyles inferior to humans in origin.
Moreover humans though they can reproduce far more quickly, they also die far more easily. As said in the Gargoyles bible, Gargoyles had no natural predators before humans created iron weapons, and since little else other than human weapons could destroy a gargoyle in its stone sleep, it made quite a bit of sense.
As for the 'By the Dragon' comment I don't see it relevant to their origin. After all humans don't say 'By the gigantopithicus" or whatever it is we evolved from.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Friday, July 2, 1999 02:51:51 PM
IP: athe530-a053.otenet.gr
Heather- okay, it was the first three letters of your home town. Somebody posted it before, sorry, I forgot the name
To all those who are leaving us temporarily- Have as much fun on your missions as you possibly can! We'll miss ya!
Pheonix
Sylvia (again
Friday, July 2, 1999 02:51:06 PM
IP: 1cust180.tnt5.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Hi people!
Pistoff- I'm glad that the stuff was resolved ;)
Star Wars name- Syler Micol
Heather- to make a star wars name, you take the first two letters of your first name and then the last two letters of your last name and put them together. then for your star wars last name you take your mother's maiden name and take the first two letters of that name and put them with the first three letters of the state (I think) or city that you are in. I think it might be city, but I'm not positive ;)
Gargoyle origins- I think that they evolved from the dragons, maybe like a dragon/dinosaur mix, I don't know, but why else would they always say, "by the Dragon" or something like that, it's almost the same thing as people sayin "my GOD". Well, that is my theory anyway.
Thats all for now
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 02:24:53 PM
IP: 1cust180.tnt5.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Aaron--click on my name--I have my own site for my story!! :) Am I spoiled!! hehehe!!!
Jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:37:29 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
**Kyryn drives into the room with a packed car***
Safe journey and safe holiday to all who are travelling!
Oh, belated happy Canada Day to all the Canadians in the CR!
David G.>*grin* I have the piece of paper from UNT, but even after I got it, I spent six years working for Nicholson Library in Garland (3 in acquisitions/tech services and 3 in circ - I understand the frustrations). I finally had to go outside the area to get a job as a full librarian (nobody wants you w/out the experience, and nobody will hire you so you can get the experience). I'm currently Systems Librarian/Library Webmaster for Southwest Texas Junior College, but I'll be moving back up to the Metroplex in about 5 weeks.
Gargs and evolution> Seems to me that the hardest explanation for it is the difference between being 4 and 6 limbed. Most flying species that have evolved on this planet have modified the forearms into wings. It's that extra limb set and joint set that are the hardest to me to explain without genetic tinkering or magic being involved.
And on that note: Later All!
***Kyryn drives out of the CR with a small American flag waving from the car antenna***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:34:44 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Not much to say except this: MY GEOCITIES ACCOUNT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED! Any mail to me should please be sent to de_InzanE@xoommail.com
Thanks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:23:03 PM
IP: mp-217-228-213.daxnet.no
Just a couple of things to say.
Gargoyle Origins> I seem not to have made myself clear on this subject. I don't think that the species was just willed into existance. I said they were created LIKE SEVARIUS CREATED THE MUTATES. In other words, whatever force created the gargoyles took an existing, probably reptile like, species and modified it.
Other than that, this discussion has been very interesting. Lots of good ideas, and ways of looking at things that I hadn't considered before.
Kyryn> I work for the Arlington Public Library, at the Central branch, in the Technical Services department.
Are you a 'real' librarian (with an MLS) or just someone like me who works in a library and never gets any respect?
Warpmind> Did you see the web page I listed yesterday? It might have the information you need. Here it is again.
Library of Congress - www.loc.gov
Copyright page - www.loc.gov/copyright
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:12:45 PM
IP: pppa28-resalefortworth1-1r1035.saturn.bbn.com
ATTENTION! Those of us who are unable to get Toon Disney but have access to the Disney Channel, two eps of Gargs will be on tonight! Probably the Goliath Chronicles as usual (which I don't care for). But enjoy!
Wilek> Yeah, it was pretty scary! We're talking about people ripping each other's faces off... and me driving like a bat outta hell!
Kyryn> It's about 100 degrees in Dallas today... and freakin' windy too. Hope your trip goes aright!
SOROW
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:07:32 PM
IP: usr11-dialup156.mix1.irving.cw.net
Hi, folks. Seems my Geocities page is living on borrowed time, or, at least only until I can find another provider.
David G.: Gonna try to check for the Copyright registry over here, might be better, or at least, easier next month (sommer employment as a librarian... my name should be Conan).
*SHAMELESS PLUG*
Workin' on a new fanfic, where Thailog resurfaces blind, scarred, but still alive.
*PLUG ENDS*
Out of curisity, why has Tom Orrowman been allowed to live for as long as he has, when DC and Elsewhere Man are killed on a daily basis?
Gotta go, catch ya later, aye?
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@geocities.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:46:45 PM
IP: mp-217-228-213.daxnet.no
I was wondering, how do you make a Star Wars name ?
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:27:31 PM
IP: 98ab2a05.ipt.aol.com
I'm trying Jenna, but the fic archive seems to be down.
Speaking of which, does anybody know if the archive accepts things in rich text format? Thanks.
Oh, and my Star Wars name: Aarer Mosan. Okay, I guess.
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:20:24 PM
IP: ppp-78.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Aaron!!! **tackles him*** how ya doing!!! Look at my story!! heheehe
***********************Shameless plug***********************
Misbegotten Son Saga--Starring Thailog!!
*********************End of Shamless Plug*******************
Bye!!
Jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:53:31 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Ahhhh. I just got my boss packed away on a two week vacation, which means we sort of get one too.
Slow day today. I guess everyone is out getting ready for the fourth, or is in transit for the same reason.
Pistoff> I'm with you. I like the Punisher back when he had no powers. That was why he was so cool. He couldn't fly, couldn't bend steel in his bare hands, he wasn't bulletproof. He was just an ordinary guy on a mission. Stuff like this is why I've completely abandoned Marvel.
As for me looking like Koz, I imagine Koz is a little taller then my 5'6", and I need to buy a Dead Kennedys shirt, but other then that...
Origin of gargs> I still like Cyrway's theory about Angelic/Demonic crossbreeding.
In case I don't post before then, happy fourth to all who celebrate it.
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, July 2, 1999 11:40:16 AM
IP: ppp-78.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Sorry for the 2X post.
Wilek> Please provide the new URL for your page when you get everything set up. I would like to update my bookmarks to relfect the correct site.
Thanks,
Kyryn
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, July 2, 1999 10:38:43 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
**Kyryn strolls in**
David G.><I just happened to have time to check out the Gov Doc section upstairs.> So which library or university do you work for?<grin> - Curiousity from a librarian who will be moving back into the metroplex area soon.
JEB><JFK> *deadpan* It was a time-travelling version of himself, of course. Isn't it obvious?> Aha! Another Red Dwarf fan!
Airwalker> Yeah, there probably are some good ones out now, but *sigh* RL eats the money and most comics are one of those expenses that I had to cut. I kept a few favorites - some of the Bat titles from DC, Green Lantern (Okami is a huge fan), and a few independents - Gremlin Trouble, Usagi Yojimbo, and Furrlough.
Robby> Yuck!I've been trying to stay inside but I'm driving back up to Dallas today to spend the weekend with Okami. The poor Saturn's AC is going to be working hard, since I have to keep it on to keep the rats cool.
Wilek> {Jaw drops} Say what!!!! I use Tripod for my webpage and they don't have any such restriction.
On the Demona sleep issue> I think that she would still need sleep, since sleep is the body/brain's way of reorganizing all the information that it has assimilated during the waking period and the body's time to do system/hardware maintenance (sorry for the computer terms but they seem to fit). If you don't have that downtime for the brain, it starts throwing out or confusing information. I've been there. There is a period of sleep called Stage IV sleep, the deepest level. If you don't get there, the brain starts having problems over a period of time. Demona is still going to need that downtime somewhere.
Pistoff> Glad to hear that things have solved themselves.
Later All!
**Kyryn dives out the nearest window into a swimming pool***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Friday, July 2, 1999 10:26:07 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
SEVARIUS JR. - The major problem that I have with Earth X is that the art is usually very dark and hard to make out. Otherwise I find many of the concepts there pretty interesting. I mean, for example we see a broken Captain America. Why can I believe that Cap would ever give up and become the way he is in Earth X? Well, he is a reflection of America and the American Dream. In every era he has been in he has fit what America was. And in Earth X, America is a shattered, broken country. So Cap is a reflection of that.
Another example is Reed Richards. The only thing keeping him from becoming like Doom was his family. And now he doesn't have that anymore. Now he has become his own worst enemy, figuratively AND literaly.
I do admit that Uatu and X-51's conversations can be depressing but they are driving toward something. Uatu is trying to do something to X-51, trying to prepare him for something. And I don't think that it is only the job of being a Watcher. There is a method to his madness. So I continue to read and try to figure out what he is trying to do.
[The Gargoyles are vaguely reptilian, but they do seem to be quite warm-blooded. And while they lack several of the reptilian aspects, they do seem to have some fairly mammalian ones]
Actually even with this, I think that it's possible that Gargoyles could have evolved from dinosaurs. I keep trying to avoid writing those long dinosaur names because I just can't remember the spelling off the top of my head, but I do remember reading about this theory, about dinosaur evolution into birds. There was a dinosaur, a famous fossil that was found, with feather imprints on it. (I'll look up the name and post it later.) It's been put forward that it's possible that this dinosaur was warm blooded. And if a dinosaur could evolve into a bird, then why not into a Gargoyle?
There is a lot we don't know about dinosaurs, and there are a lot of species of dinosaurs that we have yet to find out anything about. Gargoyles could be a branch of evolution that is completely new to us. They could have followed a similier evolution as creatures like the Platypus. Where did that specific animal descend from? It's not a mammal and it's not a reptile. It could have come from dinosaurs as easily as it could have from mammals. Our knowledge is incomplete. It's like trying to put a jigsaw puzzle together, except don't have all the pieces.
TODD - In the traditional stories, the Golem was a souless being. It could not speak, and in some stories it had to be told very specifically what to do or trouble would start. (For example there was one Golem (not Rabbi Loew's Golem but a different one) that was told to bring some water into the house of it's creator from a well. But the Golem was not told when to stop, so it simply kept bringing buckets of water into the house until the place was flooded, and he was told to in clear terms to stop. The Golem did have some sort of limited awareness. For example, stories say that when the Sabbath rolled around, even without a soul, the Golem would have a sort of tranquil look on his face for the entire day.
In fact, it was the fact that the Golem was souless that accounts for the fact that it had to be destroyed in traditional legend. The Golem was a force for good, but without a soul, no matter what, it would always eventually become corrupt. It would eventually grow dangerous and powerful and hard to control, so it would be destroyed.
(Another legend says that there is another reason that a Golem has to eventually be destroyed. This story deals with yet another Golem, not the Golem of Rabbi Loew. This Golem was activated by writing the secret name of God on his forehead. To deactive that Golem, all you had to do was erase the name from his forehead. But this Golem kept growing in power and IN SIZE. If the Golem got too large, then the name on the forehead couldn't be reached and it would become impossible to deactivate him. In the story I read, the creator of that Golem had that problem. The Golem grew in size and became huge. The man managed to finally trick the Golem into bending low enough so he could get to the name and erase it. Unfortunetly, without the name, the Golem turned into a lifeless pile of clay, and since there was so much of it, because it had grown too big, it collapsed on the man and killed him.)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, July 2, 1999 09:10:06 AM
IP: 75.new-york-31-32rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Doug and Kitania-Debate Ghaleon's intentions!? You bet I will! I will Send Electronic Mail, but I will bring up a few points here. Basically, in the original version, Dyne was supposedly slain by an insane Dragon, and Ghaleon felt Althena let it happen. He decided she wasn't fit to rule anymore, hence the reasons for his actions.
In this Game, its a lot more complex. However, Mia, and Luna even defend Ghaelon. If you'd talked to Lemia after Vane's crash and the Grindery was destroyed, she defends him to. Lemia's defended him, too. How he believes in purity. All that. I hope you talked to her enough, and not just once. Again, you should've talked until she repeated herself, I hope you did. Then again with Mia and Jessica back in the party, then again with Nash, and Kyle back in the party. There were some interesting symbolisms there. The greater good, and all that. Oh, and Ghaleon returned the singers he didn't need. Correction, too, when he captured each Dragon, he slew them, but enslaved their bodies. The exception was the Black Dragon, whom Alex, and his friends had to slay. He did what he did to Luna so she would have no memory of Dyne and her human life and thus, even if he failed, would remain to guide the humans. Ghaleon lost faith in humanity. Mia admitted even she could become like Ghaelon. Ghaelon lost faith in humanity because of a multitude of factors. He felt like he lost his reason to live, and so became obsessed with providing the guidance others needed. He didn't think humans could live by themselves. As for him not admitting he was wrong, remember, he utterly believed this. This was the only reason he was alive. He made this his only reason for living because he had nothing else so he refused to lose it. Afterwards, some people were pondering how he might've ruled. My guess is, like Myria 'guided' the world.
Tyrant's plea!? Hah!
And Ghaelon is also one of the most complex and original characters in any Video Game.
If I think of anything more, I'll Send it on Electronic Mail. I'll probably Send this anyway, but this debate needed to be answered in the Comment Room alone. There should be more detail, though.
Robby-The reason that the Ending only finished the resolutions of side aspects of the Characters is that all the other aspects of the Characters were developed before the Final Battle, and/or when the Characters were trying to break through Kefka's insanity before they were forced to fight him. As for trashing him, well, if you take the time to power up to Level 99, what do you expect!? Leveling-Up is the ultimate answer to most fighting problems in RPGs. I avoid it more often than not because I prefer to come up with new strategies for trashing the opposition. The exceptions are FINAL FANTASY VII's Final Boss, whose First Form's Status is increased by one-third, or so, or various factors, and aspects, depending on the body part, if the 'Main Character' is at Level 98 or Level 99. If so, the second form has all its Status Factors tripled. Try dealing with a being with upwards of 200,000 HP and a Summon that does upwards of 9,000 HP Damage as well as hits all party members with a variety of Status Effects, including Confusion? Its used a lot, too. No problem if you have the reight Equipment. Leveling Up is not the only solution, and in some cases doesn't help. In LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE, the Boss Stats are 'Number x Alex's Current Level'. Well, the Boss Stats round down to Level 50, but its hard to get Alex, or anyone, past Level 50.
Aris-I didn't ask to see the Review, I believe.
Doug and Kitania Again-Since you seem to Review Episodes and Fanfiction a lot, would your commentary, Doug, of prior, be a Review for LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE, or not? If not, how would you Review the Game? Kitania, what are your opinions/Reviews of LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE?
"Those that don't believe in the power of the human spirit are destined to fail. And that means you, Ghaleon!"-Alex
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Friday, July 2, 1999 08:45:07 AM
IP: 72.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
Quickie post while I'm at work (not like anyone's going to notice, since 75 percent of the people here took off today!)
Lexy> If you have 'em scanned, you can send them to me and I'll be happy to post them at my little Garg page for ya (with the correct credit, of course!) Goodness knows the Garg section of my web page is screaming for an update.
Kitania> WWW was that bad? Erk... well, I'll keep that in mind in case we decide to theater hop. If we don't skip over to Star Wars or Austin Powers, the ushers really are NOT going to care. (Maybe we might do South Park instead if the flick's that bad...) As for the camera, it's been nearly a week and I think I've got Heather's phone number. I'll give her a call and see if the roll's developed yet. Going as Griff and Brianna - I know better than to hold you to that, but that sounds great if you can do it!
Getting SOs to G2K> Not exactly sure how we could swing a fundraiser of that type... but we've got a year, so maybe something can be figured out. At the very least, we can start looking into deals on flights, etc, if the money's the problem. Dave got home last night, and I asked him if he'd be interested in going to G2K (provided we had the money, the time, and the parental permission), and he said yes. Of course, the money and the parents are a problem. Mom would be thrilled if I dragged him along so we'd be lost in Orlando together... but I don't know what his folks would say. And I still haven't mentioned the Masquerade, although all he'd have to do was get a matching jacket, a big walking stick, and do an Irish accent. :)
SW names> Amain Kibel. **blinks, does five-beat deadpan pause** Okay, I'm very glad I don't live in the SW universe!
The first 10 eps of Pendragon> There's actually a reason they went the way they did, but I'm not at liberty to discuss it... **glances over at Todd inquiringly** Either way, I signed on to do Pendragon stuff, so I'm hitting the library tomorrow with a reading list of sources on Arthurian legend.
Hmmm, can't get into the GFW archive myself. Darn it all.
That's all, have to go clear up a timesheet mistake...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 08:43:05 AM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
Dont forget ,i have an own chatroom...
http://www.angelfire.com/de/exin/GFC.html
And i'm the moderator! :):
Feel free and chat there ,say what you think ,remember ,this is only chatting and no real life!
..this goes to alot people! ..so try it! :): ..Java only!
Exin - [exin@gmx.de]
Friday, July 2, 1999 07:32:51 AM
IP: 193.97.193.243
ORIGINS OF GARGOYLES - I don't think that gargoyles are creations of magic (whether faerie or otherwise), because whenever magic was used to bring something to "life" in the series (Raven's totem beasts, the Golem, the statues that Oberon animated in "The Gathering Part Two"), the beings in question remained made out of wood, clay, or stone, never spoke or displayed any true sentience (except for the Golem when it was possessed by Renard), and felt, in general, more like animated inanimate objects than like living beings. From this, I believe that magic would be incapable of actually creating a genuinely sentient race such as gargoyles. (I once discussed this before in the other comment room, and even provided a relevant quote from J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" in the scene where Aule made the first Dwarves to illustrate my point). So I believe that gargoyles would have arisen through either evolution or the work of God, depending on which you believe in.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, July 2, 1999 07:08:44 AM
IP: 205-242-191-119.dialup-stl.primary.net
***Resume RP****
Mickey Maul, realizing that he is being pursued, ignites his lightsaber and tossses it at his pursuers, it shears a large boulder from the cliff face, the deadly seven stops short but Abel uses his power over gravity to repel it back on top of the cliff
Shogun's eyes began to glow "Give it up Maul, yer out of options and outgunned, not to mention there is no way you can deal with ten laser swords, and a pair of carnivorous mutations genetically bred for combat" he said, igniting the pair of laser swords Flypside conveniently pulled out of his mystical chamberpot of plenty, and then gesturing at Largo, his pet Octoraptor and Hemmorhage, Abel's pet mutilator fly (think a cross between a falcon, a dragonfly, a pitbull and a tiger shark)
"THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER OPTION" Roared Mickey Maul and with that he injected some glowing blue liquid into his arm and began to grow
"oh great" Moaned Doc "ANOTHER stupid sentai cliche'"
"Hey Doc" Questioned Fenrir "when did you start gaining a working knowlegde of sentai?"
"Since you've been using my torso DVD to watch the stuff"
*PAUSE RP*
Star wars name:Benld Comia, and to think when I tell people my name, the phrase "as in Kenobi" is what I use for a reference point, how Ironic is that?
PC Punisher> OH THE INHUMANITY!!! Here we had a fairly good charachter and he's turned into some glorified hellspawn
tell me why they can't leave well enough alone, makes you wonder who they'll butcher next, so now he's a literal punisher, makes you wonder what his war journal must read like now, here's a possible excerpt
PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL ENTRY, 7/1/99
Raided kingpin drug-running operation, sent kingpin's henchmnen to their rooms without supper to think about what they did, then made Kingpin write "Drugs are band, mmmkay?" 500 times
X-MEN Movie> Halley Berry as Storm? Rogue as another smegging psychic? what next, Samuel L. Jackson as Bishop and instead of his normal powers he does the jedi mind trick? If this is going to be the direction the Xmen movie is taking then I fear for the spiderman movie
***Resume RP****
Mickey Maul's height caps off at godzilla porportion
Fenrir looks at Flypside
"I don't suppose you've got an army in there?"
"Uh-uh, but I do have this" Replied the litte gremgarg, producing a large remote control with a large red button on it, emblazoned on the remote were the words "Acme sentai cliche' counterer"
"So what does it do" questioned Shogun
"Meesa was hoping yousa would ask that" replied the gremgarg as he pressed a button on the remote, suddenly the whole area was rocked by five separate explosions and five statues of very familiar looking gargoyles stood where once was only the cliffs of the rockpit once were
"and what did that accomplish?" asked Doc
Flypside didn't answer but instead pressed the button once more and the sun began to set
**RP end for now****
Shogun Raptor
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:59:52 AM
IP: ppp-43.mia-tc-1.netrox.net
kathy: Ah, thanks for the info. I wasn't able to get into the fanfic archive earlier, and I'm so paranoid that I thought my computer was having a severe brainfart. I'm glad to know why I couldn't get in.
Punisher revamp: I haven't read any comic books in a couple of years, so I didn't know what had been done to Frank Castle. Honestly, I'm horrified and disgusted. The character was perfectly fine, at least until they started spreading him too thin. They should've just focused on a single Punisher series and started coming up with new, twisted, interesting plots. Hell, I can think of a few that would be fun. But no, they had to turn him into an angel. An ANGEL, for f**k's sake!! I'm sorry, but this whole supernatural/magical/whatever it is crap annoys the hell out of me. Magic always did get on my nerves. Just seems kinda childish to me. To do that to a character like the Punisher ... to borrow an idea from George Carlin, I'd like to take the people who came up with this idea and launch them out of a high-speed catapult ... RIGHT INTO A BRICK WALL!!!!!!
Oh, something else about a possible Punisher revamp I heard about a couple years ago: I remember reading somewhere that somebody had planned to make the Punisher a *woman*. Apparently, that didn't happen, unless I just missed it. But that actually seems like an interesting idea. Heh, just thinking of a musclebound, gun-toting chick ... BOIOIOIOIOIOIOIONNNNG!!! :)
GeoCities/Yahoo! merger: Ye gods! Yet another reason to stay the hell away from GeoCities! Now I *know* I'll never have a GeoCities page. I've already had one guy stealing my stuff, I'm not about to let a bunch like GeoCities or Yahoo! mess with it, as well.
Tim P: That stuff about the Amish drug pushers had me ROTFLMAO. Clop-clop-clop-BANG! Gawd, I almost peed my pants! I've got a couple of books about weird stories from the world's newspapers; I'll find them when I have more time and post a couple of the better ones. In fact, I remember a couple: There was one about a construction worker who fell and landed on a power drill, and the bit jammed into his head. He had to walk into an apartment, look in the bathroom mirror, put the drill in reverse and back it out of his skull! Then there was another one about a guy who was found in a hotel jacuzzi with his ... ahem, schlong stuck in the suction thingy that circulates the water. It took a crew of firefighters and EMTs 40 minutes to pull him loose. That guy will never be able to show his face in public again. ;)
Amy: Hehe, there's nothing wrong with being evil. It comes in quite handy, in fact, as Rodlox has found out ... BWAHAHAHAHAH!!
Kaioto: Ahh, sounds intriguing. But I won't keep that guy from his work. I can always let Jack Hammer take care of things if the need arises. :)
SJ: Damn it, I missed half of Crusade because my piece of crap VCR stopped recording after 30 minutes! AAAAAAHHHH!!! Oh, and you're not the only one who likes the Punisher revamp. My buddy Denis told me that he thinks the new version rocks. I just looked at him funny, and decided to pretty much keep my mouth shut. ;)
Coyote: Thanks for the barbecue, I still might need to roast Rodlox. I haven't been able to get into the archive to see if he really removed that story because the damn thing's down for now. But tonight he emailed me and said that he had put ME in one of his stories! I need to check that out as soon as possible, just to see what he did to me. Denis and I had planned a bit of revenge in our series, but we decided to back off after Rodlox agreed to remove the story. But if he molested me in another one of his stories, we'll go ahead with our original plan. BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Kitainia: Your computer is a Pentium 550?! **drools** Thanks for the support on the book and Rodlox situations. And thanks for the good review, it really makes me feel better. As for Harthoth and Apep, well ... honestly, I've only read one episode of Timedancer ("Requiem," which I found terribly depressing), so I don't have even the slightest idea who the hell these two characters are. Denis is the only one who knows what their involvement is and what they'll be doing later. :P The same is true for some of the pop-culture references we put in our stories. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, for instance. No offense, but I can't stand this show. I honestly tried to watch it several times, but I couldn't sit through more than five minutes. (One thing that didn't help was the time when Dark Horse rejected a proposal I'd sent them and then later announced that they would be doing a Buffy series; part of it could be a subconscious grudge I'm holding against the show ... but mostly I just can't stand vampire stuff.) But the show has a huge following, so we reflect that in our series (and Denis is a huge fan of the show, anyway). Anyway, the Harthoth-Apep angle is in Denis's hands. When he reveals what they're doing next, I'll be as surprised as anybody else. ;P
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:56:22 AM
IP: wire-17.koalas.com
**BEGIN RP!**
[At Crown Point, the battle is joined as enemy troops spill from the landing doors of the World Devastator and TIE Droids are lauched from the hangar bays, swarming over the battlefield as they engage the Avatar's TIEs. Wilek thinks carefully, wondering how they can get anything inside the mammoth ship. He briefly considers ramming it with the Avatar's own unarmed Devastator, then realizes their factory ship isn't that expendable. Wilek: "Hm...the 'mouth' of that thing is one way in, but it leads right to an ion furnace...unless...Nereus to Avatar; I need to speak with the Administrator!"]
**PAUSE RP!**
Guess what everyone. I've removed my site from GeoCities and am about to move it to what is IMHO a much better server, Spaceports. Click my name for details. As soon as I've recovered from essentially destroying my site--don't worry, everything's still on my hard disk, just begging to be FTP'd to the new account, which I hope to do in the next few days--I'll kill DC, Sli Sludge, Elsewhere Man, and much of Yahoo and Geocities in one spectacular gorefest that will make a Gwar concert look like home economics class. (Oh, and when I tried to read the Gargs/TLK story, GFW was down. I'm not sure if that's still the case just at this moment, but...DC will still get some special attention for that.) Stay tuned.
Star Wars names> I already have one! Heheeheeehee! :D
Kyryn> <<If I remember correctly, there's a town called Hell in Texas.>> Really? Kewl, I thought that was just a movie. :)
Coyote> <<The northern Hell you're thinking of is in Michigan>> Wow. Maybe I should move there; "I'm Wilek Nereus and I'm from Hell" has an interesting ring to it. >:) <<I will keep G:CM there, mainly because it has the easiest uploading procedure of any server I've been with>> Do you use GeoCities File Manager? I use FTP, so the procedure is the same with any server that supports it. :)
Jackal> Welcome back! :D <<It's one of my secret fantasies to lick everyone in the CR!!>> Er...<holds up a realistic action figure of himself> Will licking in effigy be sufficient? :}
SOROW> <<I had a freakin' scary nightmare last night and stayed up for an hour with my brother's dagger in my hand. Sad, huh?>> Ack. I've had bad ones myself, but not quite on *that* scale...
Pistoff> <<Thanks for letting me use Mr. Thingy. Uh ... sorry about the blood stains>> No problem--they kind of add character to the thing; it was rather sterile and bland-looking before. >:) Oh, and I'm very glad the problem with Rodlox has been resolved. As for the problem with GFW...I can't get in at all, so I'm not sure...
Pendragon and Dark Ages> Err...no offense to anyone, but I'm really uninterested in these; the subject matter simply isn't to my taste, even though it is undoubtedly very well-written. The only real reason I read PD this season was because it was so closely intertwined with the main story.
Robby> <<Those locations come directly from Airwalker's post. The way its worded made it sound as if Hell were an option.>> I know, but I was just taking the opportunity to be really twisted. :)
Tim Phipps> <<Now the Bloods and Cripts are worried now that the Amish are taken over their turf.>> Um...I don't know whether to be amused or afraid.
SJ> <<in my heart, I'm a creationist and don't really buy into evolution.>> I'm the same way IRL, but I think that in fiction, anything is possible. :) <<The Gargoyles are vaguely reptilian, but they do seem to be quite warm-blooded.>> Actually, evidence is being discovered that dinosaurs were warm-blooded as well, so they weren't *really* reptiles (well, most of them), but somewhere between mammals and birds (both evolved from dinosaurs).
$Kitainia> <<I'm assuming that Wilek, SJ, and those with them are part of our group for this fight.>> Yes, except Agent Rho is the only member of the Avatar command staff who is here (Khesaat, the Administrator, etc are on the station). Just thought you'd like to know. :)$
Lexy> Do you have a scanner? Then you could get a web space account at Spaceports (www.spaceports.com) and upload your pics. If you need help, you have but to ask. :)
**RESUME RP!**
[On the Avatar, Khenmuur and Vashti are discussing strategy with Commander Khesaat. Khesaat: "This <points to something on a holographic schematic of the World Devastator> would normally be the Devastator's weak point. But our readings suggest that the Borg and the Phalanx have circumvented that somehow. Our readings may be incorrect, due to the cloaking malfunction, but we have to assume a worst case scenario. Which means that the only way to destroy this thing is from the inside." Vashti: "Can't we hack into its main computer and shut it down?" Khesaat: "The computers are protected with fractal encryption codes. Only the Administrator could break those, and it would take time, which we don't have." Khenmuur: "If only we could get into the main intake without getting fried by the ion furnace..."
Elsewhere on the station, the Administrator recieves a call: "It's me. How much CryoBan--" a flash-freezing chemical; think liquid nitrogen times about a billion-- "can you have the collective manufacture, and how soon can you do it?"]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:52:17 AM
IP: tnt-2-25-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
*stamps her lil feet* OOHH this is not fair! I have 12 gathering pics that came out..and I dont know how in the world to post them here or anywhere! *sighs* *feels so dumb* can someone help me..id like to show um to ppl who couldnt come. *kisses kai*
*wings out*
Lexy
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:49:43 AM
IP: d205.hnet.net
*bursts into the room and trips over her "Jedi robes" in her haste*
My apologies for this triple post, but I've found the link to the Sev Wars trailer. Click away! I am fairly certain I've found the right one this time. <:-)
*picks herself up, blushing in embarrassment, and leaves the room* *is obviously loopy from the lateness of the hour*
Blue Caeru
Friday, July 2, 1999 01:04:21 AM
IP: spider-wo072.proxy.aol.com
Eek!
Coyote the Bando> Er, ignore that link (www.sev.com), as it doesn't go where I thought it would go. I'll find the Sev Wars trailer link later. Sorry!
Blue Caeru
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:46:08 AM
IP: spider-wo021.proxy.aol.com
Welcome back, Ravyn! :-)
Welcome back to you too, Jewel! :-)
Coyote the Bando> The South Park-SW trailer wasn't the one I was talking about... the one I'm referring to is called Sev Wars. I think if you go to www.sev.com you can find the "trailer." Let me know if I'm wrong. <:-)
Blue Caeru
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:41:05 AM
IP: spider-wo064.proxy.aol.com
**RP HERE**
Guod appears back in his World Devestator, looking shocked as he hears alarms blaring, sees Borg troops running about like wild Indians, and is nearly deafened by Loud Kiddington's cries of "I see them! I see them!! Enemies!! I see them!!" The evil Borg leader grabs Stewart and asks in his sternest demeanor, "What the hell is going on?" "We accidentally decloaked," Beavis and Butthead's stupid nerd friend explains. "Now we're about to be attacked by the enemy." "Damn it," Guod growls. "Alright, here's what we're going to do. Tell Thurgood to power up the Techno-Nuke system and get ready to use it. Get everyone else armed with their weapons and send them out to deal with the Ravens, Wilek's forces, and whoever else is coming. Put Borg-Todd in charge." "Yes sir. What about Thailog? Should we contact him for orders?" Guod shakes his head. "Not yet. If the situation becomes dire, we will ask him for advice. In the meantime, we're going to have to take the initiave and start assimilating ahead of schedule. Tell Brendan (from UPN's Home Movies) to start extending the Cinderian drill."
The display changes to outside the Devestator, to show that the good guys' forces have completely surrounded the infernal machine and are now getting ready to shell it with their most powerful munitions. The Onslaught has transformed into its war-mech mode, with Keith, Stephanie, and Tricia as operators. It stands firm in the front of the Avatar forces, flanked by Doug, Kitainia, and the other Ravens, who have their weapons out and look ready to fight. "We'll have to get inside the Devestator to stop them," Wilek tells Doug. (note- I'm assuming that Wilek, SJ, and those with them are part of our group for this fight. Sorry if I'm wrong) "Then we will," Doug says. "But first we're going to have to do something about them." He points to a door that has just opened in the Devestator's side, and the huge army of enemy Borg spilling out of it and other doors around the structure. Wilek nods, shouts to everyone to open fire on the bad guys, and the battle begins.
**PAUSE RP TEMPORARILY**
Hi everyone. We got a new computer today. It's a Dell Pentium 550, the one Doug may have earlier mentioned. So far it works great. It is a little more temperamental than our old one was, and its programs will take a little getting used to, but we're pretty happy with it so far. I can hardly wait till the videogames Drakan and Duke Nukem Forever come out and we can play them on this. Boy, will that be fun! :)
$ Note to all RP Players: If any of you who are with us in the battle against Guod's Borg need a listing of what forces he has, please drop Doug an e-mail (link below is our joint one now since I might be getting rid of the Yahoo account). We'll send it to you. In the meantime, good luck in the battle. I hope we all survive. :) $
**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR VARIOUS MOVIES**
Wild Wild West: Doug and I gave this movie 3/10 stars, thumbs down. We were very disappointed in it. Branagh, Kline, and Hayek turned in terrible performances, the plot and script were a seething mass of sucky cliches and unexplained developments, and the science was too wacko to be believed. Will Smith did a good job with his role, but even his preformance didn't make the film good. The action also wasn't very good, and the movie was often very predictable. In short, we wasted our money. The critics were right about this film, I'm sorry we saw it. Hope that Will Smith's next movie is better.
Big Daddy: Saw that one yesterday too. For an Adam Sandler movie, it was actually pretty good. Great plot, script, and dialogue. Sandler turned in a great preformance, too. The movie wasn't as vulgar as some of his past ones, but IMO that's a good thing. It relied more on a good storyline, character development, and jokes that were most of the time actually funny. So we're recommending it with an 8/10 and thumbs up. :)
We might go see South Park this weekend, haven't seen it yet. If we do see it, we will review.
**SPOILERS ENDED, ON TO REPLIES**
Welcome, all newcomers, to the CR!! :) Hope you enjoy your time here.
Pistoff: Sorry to hear what happened with your book and that guy Rodlox, glad you were able to resolve the latter situation. I read Truce, and thought that you and Denis did a fantastic job on it. It had a nice plot that flowed well and good developments on all the characters, major and minor. Looking forward to seeing more of the same, and a few big battles, in your upcoming stories. :) See Doug's earlier post for a more detailed review, I don't want to repeat the things he's already said. (I am wondering, though, how Harthoth got into Apep's service in your ficverse. After all, he didn't meet Brooklyn since you haven't incorporated Timedancer. And Brooklyn was one of his main reasons for joining Apep in TGS. Hope you'll explain what happened in a future fic.)
Mandi: Hope your camera gets returned soon. Good plan to get everyone's SOs to G2K, hope it works. That Pendragon cast costume group for G2K sounds like a great idea. You can be Dulcinea, and maybe Doug and I will come as Griff and Brianna. Depends on how much the costumes cost, and if we can come, but we might be able to work it. <fingers crossed> Thanks for the idea.
Stormy: Have fun at your new station, we'll miss you. See you when you get back in the fall.
Jewel: Welcome back to the Room, I was wondering where you'd run off to. <grin> Now if we could just find DumlaoX and Fleur.
Ressurected Heroes: Krishna would probably be one of them. His reincarnations always showed up at points very important in Indian legend, and if the legends are real, he'd show up in the real world too. Though Krishna's probably a fay, so maybe he doesn't count. <shrugs> I don't know.
Paul: We finished Lunar. It was a pretty good game, and had a great ending with only one plot hole left dangling (that was Taben the evil inventor, who we never saw again after he started the Grindery moving. Wonder what happened to that guy). We saw the things you were talking about (Dyne's Monument, the lightbulbs, etc), but we still consider Ghaelon evil. He did plenty of evil things in the game after all. Kidnapped a bunch of girls, enslaved the Vile Tribe, enslaved the dragons and then killed them, destroyed Vane, gave Lemia forced amnesia, tried to kill the party several hundred times over, tried to turn the world into a huge desert so he could take its power and become a god,...need I go on? You may think he's not evil because he was doing all that because he thought it was best for the world, but you should remember that that is the tyrant's excuse to do bad things. All people have reasons for what they do, especially the villains like Ghaelon. In an evil villain's mind, his way is always the best way and the only way. If you examine him throughout the game, Ghaelon is a character who clearly showed that mental state. He generally always acted like a cliched villain, trying to take over the world and impose his will on it. He also refused to even consider any alternatives to what he was trying to do, or the consequences. Such is the mark of evil, not of misguidedness. In the end, Luna and a couple others (NOT all the characters, I seem to remember them talking more about their relationships and Alex and Luna's) said why he did it, but that wasn't enough for me or Doug to forgive the guy. Pity him, yes, but not forgive. We know he was evil and are glad our characters were able to stop his madness. If you want to contest this, send us an e-mail and maybe we'll debate. Anyway, thanks for recommending the game, we had a good time playing it. :)
Punisher: I didn't know Marvel had done that to him. Personally, I think it was a stupid idea. I liked Frank Castle the old way. He will of course be shown that way if he ever shows up in Doug's fics. :) The Demona crossover ideas sound interesting, but it's unlikely that a story involving them will ever get done.
SJ: Have a fun Fourth, see you when you return!
Lady Ravyn: Hi. :) So are you back for good now? If so, I'm glad to know that your parents have finally taken you off probation. Welcome back to the CR! <gives Ravyn a hug>
Airwalker: Thanks for the X-Men movie info. <sighs> I can't see Halle Berry as Storm, and don't even know who Rebecca Romjin-Stamos is. This movie is looking more and more like it won't be very good.
Airwalker, David G: Good ideas about Gargoyle evolution. I think dragons and dinosaurs may have played some part in their genetic heritage. Just a feeling, I can't really be sure about it. I also wonder how the gargoyle genome got so diverse as to have such different specimens as the Scottish and English clans living so close to one another and yet they still all remained one species. The world may never know.
Robby: I agree with you about FF3. The same things unfortunately happened with FF7 on a smaller scale. :(
Hmm, nothing more to respond to. Oh well, goodnight! :)
**BEGIN SECOND HALF OF RP**
The first wave of Borg charging out of the World Devestator is led by the hordes of crazed punk rock groupies and roadies that Borgis and Butt-Borg picked up from the last Sid Vicious concert. Sid and his band are in the group's center on a rolling stage dragged by Nancy and a few other of their band followers, playing their music to pump up the troops. Behind the punk rock fans come the Borg-Mongols led by Shublai Khan, then the dinosaurs and cavemen. The Avatar's forces begin engaging them, and soon Guod is forced to send out a bunch of the bad TV show characters, the SS troopers, and the Gatorade advertising executives to back them up. Doug and Kitainia fire into the enemy ranks, taking out both Greg and Marcia Borgy. Jan Borgy cheers to see her stupid stuck-up sister dead, but is caught in that moment of distraction by one of Lathrop's fireballs and is thus herself blown away. More Borg come out to replace them, with Napoleon's Frenchmen, the hippies, the Borg-Huns, and hundreds more waiting to join the fight themselves. Inside the Devestator, Thurgood flicks on the Techno-Nuke generator, hoping it will soon be powered up.
**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:36:40 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-213.dlls.grid.net
Sorry for the 2x post, but I just realized when I composed my Star Wars name earlier, I did it wrong. The last name is still unpronounceable, but it's actually supposed to be ... **drumroll please** ... Donez Wealg.
**returns to his overly joyful fixation**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:01:48 AM
IP: modem70.i-is.com
Toku Kaioto: Ah a fellow W40K fan....an interesting situation that Dark Angel squad has gotten it self into..*grins*
Frodo
Friday, July 2, 1999 12:00:46 AM
IP: ras188.vortex.is
**enters the room, still beaming from earlier. Nearly changes out the candle, but stops himself, reminding himself who left the last one.**
Burn, baby, burn. **quickly ... so as not to burn himself ... kisses the candle before sitting back down in the chair he bounced out of this morning.**
Pistoff: Glad to hear the situation with Rodlox resolved itself. We're all certainly glad it didn't come down to fisticuffs.
Airwalker: I agree at least about GenX ... it's the only X-book I'll buy on a regular basis.
Pics scanning: Okay, okay ... when I get the scanner working, I'll scan the two pics along with my Gathering photos.
Jenna: :) I'll be sure to check it out when I find the time.
Yahoo! takeover of Geocities: I'm not too worried about it ... I will keep G:CM there, mainly because it has the easiest uploading procedure of any server I've been with ... including Angelfire and the Michigan State University server (which you had to *log off from* in order for any changes to a Website to be reflected. :P).
**sighs as he reaches Ravyn's post again ... **
Blue Caeru: I tried to download that ... basically it's the Phantom Menace trailer redone with South Park characters subbing for the actual characters ... over the audio, with only one addition. (Put it this way, Kenny was Jar Jar. Guess when Stan screamed "OH MY GOD! THEY'VE KILLED KENNY!" ;)
Pissy again: Almost forgot ... feel free to keep the barbecue. Hell, it's sumemrtime, you'll probably put it to good use. ;)
**sits back in the chair, grinning ear-to-ear as he fixates this evening.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, July 1, 1999 11:58:55 PM
IP: modem70.i-is.com
Well, still here, at least for tonight. Maybe not so tomorrow...don't know for sure.
Gargoyle Evolution: *sigh* Maybe I'm being sacriligeious here, but the whole "Gargoyles came before man" thing has always sort of bugged me. Probably cause, in my heart, I'm a creationist and don't really buy into evolution. Oh well.
Personally, in the Gargoyle universe, I think it could go either way: Gargoyles could be natural entities, or they could be "artificially" created, perhaps using magic. The main reason I say that is I keep going back to the old myths and beliefs of life starting from the Earth: In Christian theology, God formed Adam from the clay of the ground; in Greek mythology, Prometheus fashioned mankind from the earth as well. In that regard, perhaps some fey, or other powerful entity, formed the Gargoyles as such, from the earth, and that is why they turn to stone. Until Greg fully covers this, one can't be sure.
As for evolving from dinosaurs....I'm not sure. The Gargoyles are vaguely reptilian, but they do seem to be quite warm-blooded. And while they lack several of the reptilian aspects, they do seem to have some fairly mammalian ones: for instance, body hair, skin and not scales, breasts for the females (I can't guess as to if they can produce milk--I would assume so, otherwise they would serve no function). Gargoyles, IMO, seem to be a sort of hybrid between mammals and reptiles.
One thing others have left off, that is the deciding factor of human dominance is reproduction. I'm not one hundred percent certain on the menstrual cycle of gargoyle females, but I do no the gestation period is quite long--about 10 years, right? Human females can be impregnated for a time every month, and gestation period is only 9 months. Say a gargoyle females lays an egg, and at the same time a human female gets pregnant. By the time that egg has hatched, the human female could have had at least half a dozen children. Is it any wonder the gargoyles were outnumbered so quickly?
*****CRUSADE SPOILERS*****
Another solid episode, possibly the best yet. Some great character development, as we get to see some of the backstory behind Gideon, the telepath (his name escapes me), and, of course, Galen. There's a whole nother story going on with Galen--I only wish they'd divulge even more of his history. I swear, this show keeps getting better and better. I'm extremely bitter, because as good as it is, and as much as I'm loving it, I know that it will end very shortly. I hate TNT, I really do. Bastards. Keep making those damn Civil War westerns instead of quality tv. Arseholes.
*****END CRUSADE SPOILERS*****
Ravyn: ***SJ grabs Ravyn in a big hug***
MY!!!! It's certainly good to see you in here again!!! We're all counting the days till you come back for good! :)
BTW, sneak in as many times as you can. If not for the rest of us, for *him* (you know who! :)
X-MEN MOVIE NEWS: Well, I can handle Halle Berry as Storm. I must admitt, I don't really see her in that role, but she's a capable enough actress, and....well....she's so damn HOT!!!
But Rebecca Romijn-Stamos??? Okay, I'm going to go against my manly instincts here (which tell me to do anything to see Rebecca in form-fitting spandex) and say what's on my mind: Bryan Singer, are you on CRACK??? You turn down Gina Gershon, who is *far* more talented (and damn good-looking to boot) than this....this....*supermodel* will ever be?!?! I don't believe this! This movie is constantly slipping further and further down in my book.
Punisher: Am I the only one who LIKED the Punisher revamp? I mean, the initial concept of Punisher was kind of cool. A vigilante, killing crooks, the ultimate anti-hero. But I don't know why he ever became so damn popular. He was a decent, middle-of-the-pack superhero in my book. Given the right writing/drawing team, his own title could be cool. Instead, they give him 3 titles and a gazillion guest-spots, and suddenly he degrades into the before-mentioned "Big Guy With A Gun". His books became as bad as that dumb Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie. At least now, after the revamp, he's been given some interesting powers, and there's a whole subplot where Frank is becoming the puppet to a group of angels. Plus, he does looke kind of cool with his supernatural guns blazing and the glowing sigil on his forehead.
BTW, for you Punisher/Wolverine fans, I suggest the new miniseries "Revelations" starring the two. It's quite good, with art by the same guy who did Darkminds (I forget his name). It's ANIME people, give it a look.
Airwalker: Ah, a Mutant X/Earth X fan, huh? :)
Mutant X may be one of the best X books to come along in one very long time. Finally, no long, drawn out, confusing crossovers! No plotlines left dangling for months...or years! Finally, good scripting and interesting characters!! Plus, a decidedly different--and twisted--slant on the Marvel Universe. All in all, I like the book too. It's definitely worthy of the 2 bucks a month I plunk down for it.
As for Earth X...I'm kind of lukewarm about it. The concept sounds cool--everyone's a mutant--and I suppose they were trying to go for a sort of "Kingdome-Come-apocalyptic-future" vibe...but the Watcher/X-51 vignettes annoy the hell out of me. It's the whole "but X-51, mankind is nothing but an insignificant speck of the universe, good and evil are just imaginary concepts, Celestials are gods, blah blah blah blah" thing. Being a humanist, I find those concepts disturbing. Even if Earth, and everything on it, IS an insigficant part of the universe, I certainly don't want to fixate on that. I enjoy believing in the fact that there is a purpose, to life, and to humanity. In that regard, Earth X depresses the hell out of me, and I've been somewhat disappointed in it.
Geocities/Yahoo merged? Greeeeeat. I have a page on Geocities. I suppose I'd better run for the hills now...
Star Wars name: Mine's "Brale Kersh". There's worse, I suppose, but not many. At least it doesn't sound Ewokish. Yub yub.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 11:55:33 PM
IP: 207-172-44-40.s40.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
A Quickie: Just saw South Park and laughed my ass off! Go see it if you haven't yet. My only drawback... I had my dad with me (the guy who thinks that kind of stuff is beyond evil, but won't admit he laughed!) Gotta go watch the movies I rented! OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Thursday, July 1, 1999 11:20:32 PM
IP: usr2-dialup228.mix1.irving.cw.net
DAVID G. - On the Ecology of the Gargoyle:
[Where did gargoyles come from?]
I don't think that Gargoyles were artificially created. It seems to me that they evolved, probably from dinosaurs. The big question is how to account for something as unusual in evolution as Stone Sleep.
The one thing that we all seem to forget about the Gargoyles earth is that magic is a everywhere, in everything, and that it is a very important part of that universe. It's sometimes easy to discount it because the Gargoyles earth is so realistic, so similier to ours that we forget about that magic always being present. It's also easy to just think of magic as something that Fey and/or magicians use, a manipulation of energy that only appears when someone starts chanting or has some sort of a talisman. But it's always there and it is always having an effect.
When we look at the evolution of Gargoyles, we must always remember that there is magic in the air. Raw, untamed magic. They are an old race and developed at a time when magic might have been stronger and less defined than it is now. That magic has a part in their evolution. Why didn't it do anything for human evolution? If humanity evolved last, then it is possible that by that time the magic was defined, set in place in the order of the universe, and thus had little to no effect on human development. Stone Sleep is a remenent of an earlier time, when magic and reality were no so easily defined, when magic could have more influence on the development of beings than it could ever have today.
[Gargoyle evolution seems to work much faster, in some ways, than human. Gargoyles change coloration, facial features, even body design, in a matter of a few generations. This indicates to me that their genetic code is more of a genetic guideline, which is more evidence for 'created' gargoyles.]
Today we think of dinosaurs as only being green and brown, like regular lizards that we can see, but I've read several theories that they might have been as multi-colored as Gargoyles. And there was a wide array in what dinosaurs looked like. There were hundreds of types. The vast differences in the way Gargoyles look could be a remenant of how that tremendous difference that their prehistoric ancestors had.
(Just a side note: When Gargoyles go to sleep, they don't become inorganic. They transform into a stone like organic substance. It looks like stone, it even feels like stone, but it isn't stone. (I think that it was this fact that helped the clan survive a thousand years frozen and exposed to the elements. Stone would have eroded away. But a frozen organic substance might have had much more indurance.))
[Gargoyles should have practically no resistance to disease. This doesn't matter most of the time, but gargoyles who manage to avoid stone sleep (Demona, the Guatamala clan) should be sick all the time.]
I disagree. Stone sleep does cure wounds much faster but I don't think that it eliminates the idea that they would have an immune system. I think that the concrete cure all is nature or God's, whichever you believe, way of compensating for the fact that Gargoyles are vulnerable during the day.
A Gargoyle could get sick but he or she just happens to heal faster and is more resistant thanks to the aid of stone sleep. But it can't just be that. Without an immune system, they would get sick inside of a few hours of waking up and could be sick most of the night, until they get to stone sleep which would heal them. But they would be miserable most of the night.
Demona and the Guatemala clan have magic compensating for everything.
I imagine that Demona's transformation in the evening does the same thing that stone sleep did. When she becomes a Gargoyle at night, she "wakes up". It's as if she has slept a whole night. When she becomes human, after the transformation, it's as if she had spent a whole night sleeping and "wakes up" refreshed. So why does she need to sleep? She still needs to dream and magic has limits. So she spends a few hours sleeping. But more for dreaming than for actual rest and regeneration.
The Guatemala clan probably remove their pendents periodically to sleep. I imagine that the magic in the pendents compensate for stone sleep when they don't remove them. But like I said, magic can only go so far. If they don't remove the pendents once in a while then they would have to sleep for dreaming's sake.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Thursday, July 1, 1999 10:48:41 PM
IP: 135.new-york-50-55rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
**RP here**
*Antartica, near the temple home of the butterfly god known only as Bob.*
In the midst of raking snow curtains being ripped up by winds, forty dark specks pursue one speck in the distance. The night sky is twisted with odd lighting and hues of purple and red, evidently from the disturbance of the presence of Bob.
Five dark green figures crest the near hill to behold the chase. The hulk to twice the size of a man, evidently most due to the dark green power armor framing these beings. They pause a moment to survey the scene following the cultists and billionaire with the barrels of their massive bolt-guns as if the blinding sheets of snow did not exist.
Sergeant Azeria nodded in his helmet, the range finder on his visor display gone green with a confirmed lock. Exploding shells ripped through the Antarctic night as the robed cultist fell to the earth, staining the pristine wilderness crimson as the other four Space Marines in his squad joined in on their first cleansing of the followers of Chaos they'd participated in since they'd been marooned in Warp Space for three months ago.
**pause RP**
Early morning, new solstice, tenth day of the new cycle, first day of July. Today a drought of 37 days finally broke in New England. I was awakened to the sound of thunder and down-pour on my roof. I walked to work today in the misting and I got ~feel~ everything around my that lived desperate and relieved all at once, trying to make up for the unseasonably dry weather. There was a peace and relief I could feel in the grass, the trees, and all the bugs and other creatures that was an awesome experience indeed.
Lady Ravyn: I'm SO glad you're back! *glances at Coyote* He's a great guy, and it hurts to see him walking around like his right arm was gone.
Pistoff: Hm … editors … I know a certain someone in black spiked leather with a sawed-off that would deal with your editor problems, except he's busy with crack dealers at the moment … even Malakai has priorities, crack dealers win over editors, though not by much …
Gargoyle Habitats: For some reason, I've always found that Boston would make an idea city for a Clan. It is very much a city of history and activity and stone work. It is also the cradle of the American Revolution and abolition and environmentalist causes. We also have a lot less of the criminal and violence issues of New York. I think it could be a nice place to have been at least visited by the Time Dancer if nothing else.
Airwalker & Green Baron: Believe it or not, Rome actually has a lot of power. It is simply against the Church's nature to flex the necessary muscle for most secular concerns. The network of community leaders and educated men as well as the vast pool of relief workers and diplomats is an impressive power base indeed. If the Vatican called a man hunt or a Crusade with a good reason, Madoc would be in deep trouble indeed. As well, the Church owns some of the largest arcane libraries and museums in the world. The inner workings of this cumbersome institution is also very well removed from the eyes of the public. Also, countries find spying very difficult as the religious nature of the participants make the Vatican hard to infiltrate and Swiss security is difficult to compromise.
Finally, in a world of mysticism like TGS, the warriors of faith and virtue are seldom bereft of counters to the magical machinations of sorcerers and Fay. In many cultures, the shamans and priests are the ones villages go to see when one needs to be rid of demons, witch-craft, vampires, or hexes. As well, the Vatican is the only place where Latin is a living language, the language of things arcane and one of the main producers of paladins and exorcists and counter-magic.
From a realistic point of view, once Madoc had taken out the g argoyles and their prophecy, the next play at Ragnorock is the need to eliminate the mortal threat, because the Seelie can't defeat the Unseelie in direct combat according to the Book of Doom. It requires the "non-god" forces of good to defeat the "giants and dark gods." Madoc could take out Oberon without paranoia once there was no mortal threat.
Ok, that's all I have to say about that for now.
Jaden and Star Wars names: Marnd Phwhi … now that sounds like an annoying alien at a canteena somewhere … sounds furry too.
**Resume RP**
Satisfied that the Chaos worshippers were eliminated, the Dark Angels ceased fire. Their com links crackled with Azeria's voice, "Now," he hefted his blade and activated the blue EM field around it, "Close combat formations. Frontal assault, search and destroy the demon and any resistance. This shouldn't take long. For the Emperor's Forgiveness."
"For his mercy."
"The Emporer's will be done."
"Sir?"
"Yes, brother Jorael?"
"What do we do after we destroy the taint of Chaos here. We are stranded on a primative planet, possibly another dimension. How do we get home?"
"I don't know, Jorael. Honestly, it doesn't matter as long as we complete our mission."
"And somebody has bear on tap afterwards?" another marine chimed in. The squad laughed a morbid laugh and proceeded to pull out their pistols and combat knives while heading towards the cavern entrance, ignoring the primitive natives in their pursuit of the Emperor's edicts … and the promise of a half-decent micro-brew."
***End Post**
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 10:29:41 PM
IP: 1cust109.tnt2.brockton.ma.da.uu.net
(Mutters about AOL erasing huge post on Garg evolution she had cleverly thought up)
David: *looks at him with puppy dog eyes* Can you? When my life get's settled and I can find some way to pay for postage and tapes (*EVIL GRIN* read: Till I can find some way to send you ALL the tapes you need in a huge box with a small note attached saying: Your turn.)?
Pistoff: Don't worry about it. My friend is making me evil. That was one of many lessons. *grin*
Garg Evolution: *sighs as she begins this long post. . . *
I was thinking maybe they were Lex type rock lizards (gliding wings, ability to bend in odd and inhuman ways *grin*)But Desert lizards with a thick hide for protection and to prevent water loss. But after years of: Skin on, water in, protection good, hard to move, can't hunt, no food. Skin off, water loss, no protection, easy to move, can get food. And of course, being desert there is SUN, which is HOT. Too hot for little lex-type lizards. The hide is also rock toned for camoflage. This becomes something EXTREMELY similar (read, not real stone) to rock. And in the desert there aren't many creatures that can break a rock. They interbreed with humans (Elekra type) give up cold bloodedness for vocal cords, ability to regenerate limbs for larger appitite. Then the only creatures left are those that DO have the warm blooded characteristic because of drastic climate change (Think Sahara, once beautiful tropics, now a dust bowl). These interbreeds survive, flourish, and evolve after to become (once again) a seperate species. Which is why something like Garg female and human male mate, garg female has halfling might be more possible then a female carrying a halfling to term (for various reasons). Due to very few remaining compatible genes that haven't evolved.
Enough Rambling,
Ja ne,
Amy da tigger - [Tigeres57@aol.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 10:28:17 PM
IP: spider-wj081.proxy.aol.com
Here's one for the "Life Is Stranger Than Fiction Files": a pair of Amish men in their early 20's were arrested around Des Moines, IA yesterday for selling crack to little Amletts. Now the Bloods and Cripts are worried now that the Amish are taken over their turf.
This isn't the first time something like this happened. From what I understand, sometime in their early 20's, Amish men are allowed to experience modern life for a brief time. Last year in New England, a group of Amish men were caught doing drugs with a biker gang.
Clop-clop-clop-clop-BANG!-BANG!-clop-clop-clop-clop-BANG!-BANG!
"Oh my god, it's an Amish drive-by shooting!"
Tim Phipps
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:59:05 PM
IP: s19-onawa.pionet.net
Anyone here heard about the GeoCities/Yahoo merger? Take a look at a part Yahoo's new Terms Of Service:
"By submitting Content to any Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly granted, Yahoo the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from,
distribute, perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed."
Draw your own conclusions; I'm looking for a new space provider.
Real post later.
An extremely ticked-off Wilek
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:07:19 PM
IP: tnt-2-118-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Okay, trying this again. For the fourth time. Oii... If I miss anything, blame it on the fact I'm a bit frustrated at this point...
Wierd AL- I've already memorized the lyurics to his latest. Doesn't hurt that American Pie was my fave song a few years back...
Wilek- Those locations come directly from Airwalker's post. The way its worded made it sound as if Hell were an option.
Kyryn- May not have passed 100, but its still too hot to mow, which I've been doing the last three days...
Punisher- Actually the reason for the revamp, lousy as it is, is simply because no one bought the title before, and everyone thought Punisher was a lousy, one dimensional cliched character with no personality. (THis is largely Marvel's fault for giving him like 3 of his own series at one point and having himk guest star EVERYWHERE for a couple of years.) The character was worn out and needed a revamp. What Marvel did wasn't a good revamp, but the revamp itself was called for.
Paul- I'm sorry, the ending to FF3 was just lame. Kefka didn't do anything life threatening or overly dramatic, (Yes, shooting lasers at the planet was neat, but he'd done far nastier earlier in the game) and I understand its within Kefka's personality to be weak, but... I BEAT HIM IN ONE TURN! He never even hit me! Even the triparte creature that came before him I beat in a speedy anner with a minimum of damage on my characters. Between Locke having the Lumina sword and the offering relic, Sabin having a Gengi glove, and Celes using Runic, my characters were barely hit! There was *NO* challenge in the final battle at all! And the ending didn't resolve anything, we didn't learn what happened to any of the characters, we just saw them escaping the tower. Terra was the only character to have her plot line even slightly resolved, and even then, she had loose threads that weren't touched upon. (I was especially cheesed that the romance between Locke and Celes didn't finally come out). Whereas part two had a very long half hour final battle no matter what your power level, and the ending tied up every character's storyline nicely and showed what happened to everyone. I was just dissapointed in part three's ending after the rest of it was so good. Maybe it was my fault for being level 99, maybe it was Squares for putting in such powerful weapons, whatever, the final boss should be a challenge, not a yawn. And the ending shoulda been better.
Mandi- Its odd, that while the CR has like 60 text colors, only 15 or so are used regularly... (Especially red...)
Gargoyles: LIon King? Hmm... Despite the fact I haven't read or worked on any garg fanfic since joining TGS, I need to check this out. ANyone care to give a link?
Robby
Thursday, July 1, 1999 08:40:40 PM
IP: spider-tp083.proxy.aol.com
It's time, once again, for David G's Obnoxiously Long Post, but first, a word from our sponsors:
TGS Staff> oops, I think I forgot to put TGS in the disclaimer on my story. If so, I'll rectify that on all future stories.
Amy> You need to be introduced to the world of Fan Subtitled Anime. My collection is something like 97% fansubs. Get onto a search engine and use Fansub Anime as your keywords. Or look at me with sad puppy eyes and let me know what kind of stuff you're interested in. I can copy my stuff for you as long as (a) you don't mind waiting till I have time, and (b) you can pay for blank tapes and postage. I'd guess about $6 per tape, with 2 hours of stuff on each tape.
Anybody else> This offer only extends for as much spare time as I have. I can probaby copy one tape per day, and I'm only doing it until it starts to mess up my VCR.
Punisher revamp> I've only read one issue, and really only skimmed that, but I think it's a scam. I think the 'angels' are some kind of aliens, and that they're either deliberately misleading Frank, or they're misguided.
Pendragon and Dark Ages fanfics> To be honest, the first thing I had in mind to do when I found the Gargoyles Fan site was Pendragon. My version would have been very different from the existing series. I may still do it one of these days. Also, (PLUG WARNING) my next Fic takes place in London, oh wait, I think I already teased this one, never mind (END PLUG WARNING). As for why there aren't more, I think it's a combination of not wanting to 'mess up' characters that non TGS authors don't know well enough to write 'correctly' and maybe being daunted by the settings. Both series have a lot of material to handle, but are also kind of limiting. Particularly with Pendragon, the fanfic author runs the risk of really loosing the flavor of the series if he gets too creative.
Now, rather than just say what's wrong, here are some ideas that I offer freely to anyone who would like to use them. These are ideas that I have no interest in doing myself right now, so go ahead. Have fun. I'd love to see what you do with them.
Pendragon:
The Knights vs 'The Troubles' - Actually, I may use this one some day, but go ahead anyway. Rory's Irish. He's got to have an opinion, and he has a magic spear...
Jack's Back - This one's almost too easy. Imagine Jack the Ripper as an Unseelie Faerie, a Vampire, or a Ghost, or just some history student with psychological issues.
The Questing Beast - I kind of wondered if Madoc hadn't created this one in the first place.
Crossover Arthur vs. Grendel (the comic book, not the Anglish myth)
Crossover the Knights vs. the Predator (I'm sure somebody's done this with Gargoyles by now, but Arthur is more of their kind of target)
Dark Ages:
Crossover The Wyvrn Clan and Medieval Spawn.
Another Clan's story - the Paris clan, for instance.
Historical Fiction - take a period of history, particularly in Scotland, and see what effect a clan of Gargoyles might have had. I'd be really interested to see how Gargoyles might have helped Princ Malcom's brother attain the throne.
Now, on to the real post.
The Ecology of the Gargoyle:
I don't have answers for this one, I just want to pose several questions and advance a couple of theories.
1) Origin of the Species - Where did gargoyles come from? Their evolutionary path is obviously different from any other creature on earth. Stone by day, warriors by night is a very... interesting adaptation. It actually produces some severe problems, but is likely responsible for the gargoyles' strength and flying ability. Sevarius theorized that they absorb solar energy during their stone sleep. (does that mean that clans that sleep in shelter are slowly starving to death?)
My bet is that the gargoyles were CREATED, possibly adapted from some other flying lifeform in the same way that Severius created the Mutates, but on a more advanced scale. They were created to be defensive warriors, hense the great strength and healing, and the instinctive desire to protect. Their flight was useful on the battlefield, but not really cut out for long distance flying. They're scouts, more than travellers. The talons are both tools and weapons.
Now, as to what might have created the gargoyles, I haven't a clue. There is a woefully small list of suspects, and no evidence. The aliens might have done it a long time ago, but the Guardian on Easter Island thought Goliath and Angela might be aliens, so they might resemble their creators, but that's stretching the point. The Fey might have done it. If so, they never took any credit for it, and it's surprising that there weren't any gargoyles on Avalon before the Eggs wound up there. Even less likely is the idea that human wizards made the gargoyles, but the possiblility can't be discounted completely.
Gargoyle evolution seems to work much faster, in some ways, than human. Gargoyles change coloration, facial features, even body design, in a matter of a few generations. This indicates to me that their genetic code is more of a genetic guideline, which is more evidence for 'created' gargoyles.
2) Gargoyles in nature - Gargoyles are pretty much like primative humans. They live in large family groups, cooperate to live, etc... Assuming they evolved, the 'protogargoyle' was probably some sort of flying creature that hunted in packs, and preyed on much larger creatures. They were probably originally reptiles (though the playtapus sort of exists to screw up that argument), and their eggs had a slow gestation period. A clan/pack structure would allow them to defend the all important next generation more effectivly.
Such creatures would be fairly unlikely to develop sentient intelligence. Even without it, gargoyles are far better adapted to survive than humans. However, first, we don't really know how evolution works since it takes too long to observe, and second, if the gargoyles were created or enhansed, they had outside help.
Going to the next step, primative gargoyle vs. primative man, the gargoyles had some serious problems. Once tools get into the mix, humans have some severe advantages. Spear throwers, and later bows and arrows, allow humans to make up for the strength difference. Worse, human trackers could track gargoyles home and kill them during the day. The result would be that gargoyles were pushed into the less hospitable regions (mountains, deep forests, etc... But nowhere flat and empty). With worse natural resources, gargoyles would develop tools more slowly. They don't need them as much anyway, so they have less inspiration to improvise.
Over time, smart gargoyle clans would realize that this human civilization thing wasn't just going to go away (long about Jericho - the first known fully functional city -, I'd say). They would seek out human allies, bartering their strength and flight for protection during the day, and food. Bronze age gargoyles would evolve into warriors instead of hunters.
3) Gargoyle biology - Gargoyles differ from humans in several areas: physical structure (wings, tails, claws...), Senses, Metabolism, and Healing. The physical structure is the least interesting, since most of it is pretty obvious. I've already gone into the bit about adaptive genetics. Gargoyles have generally sharper senses than humans. The difference seems to be sense of touch. Gargoyles either have fewer pain receptors, or a much higher pain threshold than humans do. They're also more resistant to cold, but that may be a metabolic thing. Acute vision and Night vision make a lot of sense for a gliding, noctournal hunter. Generally enhansed senses are very useful as well. I think, though, that they are less important from a survival standpoint, and, again, point to the idea that gargoyles were 'designed' by someone.
The metabolism and healing are the most interesting. The Stone Sleep is patently magical. I don't know of any other creature that ever becomes inorgainc. The energy demands of a full body conversion to a denser substance would be incredable. The advantages are obvious. A gargoyle ages at half the speed of a human, and probably lives longer yet, since stone sleep would eleminate a lot of the gradual tissue degeneration that affects humans. They can heal injuries quickly, to the point that if you can keep a gargoyle alive for 12 hours, he'll recover from almost anything. There are a couple of problems, though. Obviously, a statue is more vulnerable than a moving body, even if the body is asleep. The other problem is that gargoyles should have practically no resistance to disease. This doesn't matter most of the time, but gargoyles who manage to avoid stone sleep (Demona, the Guatamala clan) should be sick all the time. Demona can't die, of course, but she can have the flu for twelve years. This would explain why the Guatamala gargoyles were so worried about Bronx' paw in 'The Green.' They were used to having to fight off infections on a daily basis, like a human does.
OK, that's about enough. I really hope I inspire some other people to sound off on this. I'd like to read others' ideas on what makes gargoyles tick. Anyway, it's about time to stop talking now. I need to do laundry, and I want to write my next story while I still remember the plot. Bye.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 08:30:17 PM
IP: pppa11-fortworthb3-3r522.saturn.bbn.com
Greetings all...
JENNA - You're Stories up? COOOL! Will read!
JEB - Sorry, man... I guess the JEB-suit and Garlon DO look alike. :)
I just got my Gathering pictures back today! Will be scanning them in as time permits. They will be up on my page soon. Got some great ones! And a good one of me and Thom Adcox!
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 08:14:26 PM
IP: 207.170.232.14
More X-Men Movie News: 20th Century Fox is close to signing Halle Berry as Storm and Rebecca Romijn-Stamos as Mystique in the upcoming movie.
KYRYN - You wrote: [*sigh* stuff like that is exactly the reason I stopped reading Marvel about 5 years ago.]
Even when they do crap like the current Punisher revamp, there are still quite a few very good books that they put out. Avengers is excellent. Spider-Girl is a wonderful book and a hundred times better than the current Spider-Man books. Mutant X and Earth X are very interesting and well done books that due to being set in alternate universe/possible future are easy for anyone to pick up and get into reading. There are even two very good X-books (I know, it sounds impossible to have "good" and "X-book" in the same sentence, but it's true) - Generation X and X-Force.
JENNIREN - I wasn't alienated by the first ten episodes of PENDRAGON. But I wasn't particularly happy that it was so flashback heavy. I don't mind flashbacks but too much isn't good. I felt that we were getting too much Arthurian times and not enough of Arthur and Griff's adventures today during those episodes.
PENDRAGON has improved by leaps and bounds this season. In fact I'd like to see more of it, although I hope that now that the Unseelie War is over, it will be seperate from Main TGS. There were many characters (Caspian, Rosalind, Lucy, Brianna, etc.) who I'm really interested in seeing more of. After seeing the PENDRAGON of this season, I realize that there is a lot of potenetial there that is just begging to be used.
ED - You wrote: [The flashbacks needed to be interspersed with more adventures in the present. Now, the scenario is the other way around. I think the series is dying for explanations of Merlin's past. Macbeth's too.]
I don't mind an occasional flashback or two but as long as it is merged with Main TGS, then it should stay firmly rooted in the present. If PENDRAGON goes back to being a seperate series next season, I wouldn't mind seeing some flashback. Just as long as it doesn't start to dominate everything like it did in the first season. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing some of Caspian and Rosalind as children for example, or maybe a bit of Michael and his wife before she died. And as you said, it would be nice to see some of Merlin and Macbeth's past.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Thursday, July 1, 1999 08:05:47 PM
IP: 169.new-york-21-22rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Stupid computer keeps freezing when I try to submit a post... And after typing out the same post three times, I'm a little sick of it. I'll try again later. Oii...
Robby
Thursday, July 1, 1999 07:52:23 PM
IP: spider-wa073.proxy.aol.com
Pistoff > Gargoyle Fans is doing some site work tonight. It's supposed to be down until about midnight. (give or take)
kathy
Thursday, July 1, 1999 07:15:35 PM
IP: ryentfw1.avon.com
Ack! I missed one!
Aaron: Thanks. :) As for Truce, don't worry about it. You'll need a lot of free time to read this one, heheh. It's kinda, well, large. ;) There's no rush, as long as you get to it eventually and let me know whether it was good or sucked, hehehe. :) And you really look a lot like Koz? Wow. Hope I can see ya at the next Gathering ...
Pissy yet again
Thursday, July 1, 1999 07:10:53 PM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com
Amy: Thanks. :) He seems to have caved in, so the need for punishment may be over.
I finally got into the AuthAdmin site and made the changes. Now, we'll see if Rodlox holds up his end of the bargain ....
Pissy
Thursday, July 1, 1999 07:03:59 PM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com
Hey all. RL caught up with me (as did many other I see) and my hormones were involved. *mutters* "Evil men."
*coughs* That and a pass-a-fic on my Mailing List, way too much insanity to ignore.
David G: Anime is SOO expensive now a days. I only have one Ranma video. With the half where he gets back his strength and his mom. *sighs* God knows what box it's in. I HATE MOVING!
Jaden: Amyhu Basac. I perfer Amy da tigger. Well, since my first name IS three letters that probably didn't help.
Heather: I LOVE ANIMORPHS! Unfortunatly so much I refuse to have anything to do with the shows. The books are SOO much better and the show . . . First of all Rachel doesn't have a lion morph. She has an elephant morph. (Other people are "Why does THAT matter?!" It just DOES matter.) And the first shows were so horribly off it wasn't funny. *sighs* And I had such high hopes for it too . . .
Pistoff: That really sucks! On both counts! Reminds me of this guy on my ML, Jeremy Quest. Me and my BFF would devise ways of torchure over AOLIM. I think my favorite was oi and spooning. *evil grin* Yes, I am insane. That one, and poking out his eyes so he could no longer read and breaking his fingers so he could no longer type and slitting his throat so we couldn't hear him whine.
On the book thing: I agree, try an allias. Peter Bauchman, brother of Richard. *grin* THAT should get some heads turning.
Gargoyles hide outs: Anyone keeping track of this? Places mentioned I mean.
Okay, I'm gone. Just wanted to make sure you guys didn't forget about me! *turns away, her little tigger tail showing*
Ja ne,
Amy da tigger - [Tigeres57@aol.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 06:48:42 PM
IP: spider-wj083.proxy.aol.com
**Walks in and returns all the torture devices his CR buddies have loaned him.**
Thanks, I really appreciate your letting me use these. :) It was very cathartic.
Coyote: Oh, and here's the @$$hole Editor doll. I got you a new one. The one you gave me ... well ... heh ... there's not much left of it. ;) Thanks, bud.
Wilek: Thanks for letting me use Mr. Thingy. Uh ... sorry about the blood stains. ;)
JEB: Thanks, bud. I'm still looking for an agent for the book. Maybe I'll get lucky .... I'm really glad you enjoyed Truce, too. :)
Aris: I emailed Rodlox first and told him to remove his story from the archive. He put up a brief struggle, in which he claimed that he asked me for permission to use my characters. I sent him another copy of his disclaimer, pointing out the part where he claimed that the Gra'athi were his and I'd borrowed them with his permission. Kaboom! He was busted! He was no match for me.
He agreed to remove it if I removed his contribution to one of my stories (he offered some suggestions about Gra'athi physiology and psychology, a couple of which I used and gave him credit for in the Author's Notes, and somehow he got the idea that he had created the entire concept). Fair enough, since it only amounted to a couple of lines.
But there's a problem. I've been trying to get into the Author Admin site for a while now, but it won't let me in. Is anybody else having this problem? Maybe the site's down or something ....
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 06:28:23 PM
IP: 207.48.109.53
Hey Aaron, Steve, Coyote, Taleweaver, Heather!!! And all others!!!!
***************************Shameless Plug Alert*************
At last!!! At last!!! The first part of my story is up!!! It's my first fanfic!! Called Matters of Fate !!!
Enjoy!!!! It's about Thailog!!!!
************************************************************
P.s. to the webmaster--you need a pic of old Thay in here!!
Jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Houston, Tx, Usa
Thursday, July 1, 1999 05:59:17 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
I really don't have much to write so I'll come back later. I had a freakin' scary nightmare last night and stayed up for an hour with my brother's dagger in my hand. Sad, huh?
Jaden> Tell me this strikes fear into the hearts of villians... Allie Molas! HHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!! It sounds like a pancake syrup!
WELCOME BACK RAVYN! We missed you!
SOROW
Thursday, July 1, 1999 05:53:04 PM
IP: usr12-dialup7.mix1.irving.cw.net
Aaron wanders into the CR, taking a minute to appreciate the AC. That done, he fixes on DC.
Between you and fate, I've been locked out for two days, DC. And since you do all electrical evil, I bet that makes you responsible for the problem with my sparkplugs, too. And that annoys me.
Aaron spreads his hands and yells "Niamis!" DC instantly freezes, encased in ice, before falling to the floor and shattering like the T-1000.
Guess what I've been reading.
Lots of replies, so here goes.
Jenna> Hey roomie! I enjoyed myself too. As for making G2K, I'm going, even if I have to walk to Orlando.
Coyote> Don't sweat it. I know several people got pics of my tattoo, and the german contingent promised to put it up on the web. So if anyone knows where their pages are located, feel free to share with the rest of us.
DarkAngel> Oro is also a Japenese word. I have no idea what it means, only that Himura Kenshin says it all the time.
Pistoff> Congrats on getting Truce posted, and on the new car. Still trying to find time to read it. (Cursed RL, always getting in the way) As for Rodlox, (Aaron deposits a straight razor, a can of gasoline, and a Steeler's Wheel tape next to the other offerings) it's not Mr. Thingy, but they work pretty well.
As for coming as Koz, it wouldn't really be too hard. I'm about the right age and build, I'd just need to dye my hair. I've got most of the wardrobe. All I really need is to find a shoulder holster. I could actually come as either Koz or Frank with pretty much the same costume since they're both long-haired, black-coated sociopaths. :)
Punisher/Demona. Hmmm. Possibilities. Since Punny is now (I think) immortal, they could have a few things in common. At the very least, I can see them both showing up to stomp some Quarrymen butt at the same time.
*****************Review w/spoilers for Wild Wild West**************************
I gotta say, I was really disappointed in this movie. I think it wins my Waterworld award for this year. Good idea, bad execution, way over budget.
The script seems to rely mostly on racial humor, and cheap sex jokes, which detracts from the real comedic talent both Smith and Kline possess. They just do not play off each other anywhere near as well as Will and Tommy Lee Jones did. Selma Hajek has no real purpose except for the two heros to fight over, (and show off her butt) And then they cop out at the end and she picks neither of them.
And what the f**k were they thinking when they picked Kenneth Braughnah to play the villian? (I know what he was thinking when he agreed. "They want me to play southern? And the script sucks? They'll pay me *how much*? I'll do it.")
His character is such that I almost wish they'd gone with Tim Curry instead, someone who's used to playing way over the top, and who we wouldn't have to take seriously.
And for a summer actioner, not much happens. Except for an over-almost-before-it-starts sequence at the beginning, there are almost no fight scenes. I wanted at least one kick-@$$ gunfight to showcase Will Smith. I suspect that they may have shot a much better movie, and then audience-tested it to death.
Overall, I came expecting MIB, and got The Avengers instead. (The new bad one) 2/5 skulls, Aaron Bob says do what you want.
************end spoilers**************************************
Later.
Aaron wanders off, singing Aerosmith's "Full Circle"
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 05:41:43 PM
IP: ppp-130.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Heeeeeyyyyyyyy kids!!
Just got back from me vacation last night- G99 was a blast! :D Lots went on, too much for me to cover here- I'll be posting a report ASAP (been working on it since the second day of the con), and my three rolls of film will be scanned and posted soon as well. It was great to meet so many of my net.friends (some of you I'd met before, others I was meeting for the first time- and you get a bag of pixi stix if you recognize that reference ;)- Robby, Gunjack, Coyote, Starsinger, Green Baron, Doug, Greg Bishansky, Christine, Ms. Hayden, Stephen, Kyryn, Taleweaver, Durid, and so many others just from this room! I also got to meet Mr. Weisman, Mr. Hernandez, Mr. Jackson, Ms. Elrod, Myhr... Loving the accounts seen in here and in the S8 Gargs CR. :) And with
next year's in Orlando, I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GO! YEEEEESSS!
All in all, spifftacular con. :) Hope to see those who didn't make it (and those who did too) at G2000! :)
Anyways, I see the ol' room's been busy while I was gone, tho' I really wish it hadn't been annihilated last week. :/
Welcome to Skippy the Klingon- congratulations on winning the Ms. Congeniality award, it was well-deserved. ;) ;) *j/k* Also a 'howdy' to Kat. :)
Welcome back to Jewel Faulkner and Ravyn!! :)
And goodbye to Gunjack and Stormy. Y'all'll be missed. :(
Pistoff> I'm sorry to hear your book didn't get published. :( I liked "Truce" a lot, though, if that helps any. <:) And I believe Rodlox needs a visit from Jack Hammer...
JFK> *deadpan* It was a time-travelling version of himself, of course. Isn't it obvious?
Stephen> Very nice summary, and I await the piccies. :) Buuut.... I WAS NOT IN MY JEB-SUIT! I WAS BEING GARLON! They just look so dang much alike, okay? <:) I KNEW I should have gotten some mousy-brown hair dye...
Weird Al> New album? Must buy new album. JEB likes Weird Al. Need new music. Yes.
Airwalker> They did WHAT to the Punisher? Oh, jeez... *rolls eyes*
Jaden> Hm, I'm... Jaman Enfo. Has a nice, appropriate ring, actually... :)
Wild Wild West> It can't be worse than Austin Powers 2 and Star Wars Episode 1. (Knock wood...)
TLK-Gargs Story> *ROTFLOL* This is a hoot and a half! You gotta read this!
Happy Canada Day, to all the Canadians in the room. :)
*JEB strolls off, writing notes in his little book, and chuckling to himself the whole way.*
JEB - [JEB215@aol.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 05:22:30 PM
IP: abd3c919.ipt.aol.com
Question, anyone know of any sites with pics from G99 posted, and where they might be? I was offline to two weeks
doing my two weeks for the National Guard.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 04:46:45 PM
IP: fltg2-ppp10.fltg.net
Adaer Bleld? Boy am I ever glad I don't live in the Star Wars universe.
Ed: I've got to disagree with your saying that Dark Ages is difficult to write fanfic for. With character personalities only barely established thus far and with the medieval setting, I think the opportunities to write a fanfic are limitless. Then again, I haven't written a DA fanfic before, so maybe I shouldn't talk. Ever read my Gargoyles fic, "Admissions of Guilt and Innocence?" (Sorry, shameless plug)
And on that note, I had best return to writing a script for a high school movie that will likely never be made.
Oh yeah, just one more thing. How was Wild Wild West? I don't want spoilers, I just want to know if I should go see it this Saturday. Thanks.
Ghaleon
St. Louis, Missouri
Thursday, July 1, 1999 04:42:19 PM
IP: gatekeeper7.solutia.com
Jenniren: I loved them, but then I knew next to nothing about Arthurian legend to begin with. We saw some characters with real depth and although it had a sense of legend to it (obviously) the stories also worked with the Gargoyles universe. After ILL MADE KNIGHT the stories were still good but they often fell into a similar trap to Gargoyles. Nonetheless, many of the stories (notably INTO THE WOODS, VISIONS and QUEST'S END) were excellent.
Aris: That seems slightly harsh. Pendragon needed a cast, and Nimue and Morgana would have been excellent recurring characters upon which to base some of the story arcs. And Eliane was an addition for the sake of Duval.
Off the top of my head, we saw the following characters introduced in modern times...
The London Clan (THE RETURN)
Those English nice-guy Brendan and Margot equivalents (I forget their names but THE RETURN).
Nimue (THE LAST ENCHANTMENT)
Morgana (GODDESS OF WINTER)
Elaine and Norman (was that the name? My memory's a bit hazy right now. ILL MADE KNIGHT, anyway).
And GODDESS OF SPRINGTIME as I remember had an underdeveloped Princess Dianna tie-in. Or maybe it was better being underdeveloped less TGS appear like 'The Sun', periodically producing fiction about the monarchy :)
The flashbacks needed to be interspersed with more adventures in the present. Now, the scenario is the other way around. I think the series is dying for explanations of Merlin's past. Macbeth's too.
Ed
Thursday, July 1, 1999 04:35:58 PM
IP: p15-raven-gui.tch.virgin.net
Sorry, the previous link doesn't work. This one does.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 04:17:00 PM
IP: athe530-c018.otenet.gr
I've just updated my site, also adding a copy of the Gargoyles site. Clickie to enter.
Jenniren> <<Did people like the first ten eps of Pendragon or not?>> I don't know. Did anything actually *happen* in them? If I remember correctly they followed the pattern:
Arthur and Griff visit a new location connected to Merlin.
[Excalibur flashback]
They meet a new and rather uninteresting old female immortal character in general uninteresting circumstances.
[Mallory flashback]
She turns out to be a kinda of a villain but deeply humane and tortured within. She either becomes a friend, and lets them go after sharing some tears, or (despite her being a emotionally tortured and conflicted character) still hates them and they manage to escape.
Did I summarize that well? :) The last episodes though were much improved, the Stonehedge ep, the Rory ep, the finale... those were good eps.
Paul> My 'reviews' are in the form of email feedback which I give to a couple fanfic authors. Whether they desire to share it with you (or with anyone else for that matter) is entirely up to them.
Pistoff> I assume you've requested from the webmaster that his story be taken down, right? It's perfectly within your rights, but you have to ask for it.
Jewel> Welcome back! It seems you have a rather interesting life...
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 04:12:00 PM
IP: athe530-b101.otenet.gr
Jaden - According to your formula my Star Wars name would be Jente Lycha. I thought I liked it - until I tried to pronounce it. Yikkh! It sounds like something JackaL would do. (No offense JackaL) ;)
Why so few (if any) Pendragon and Dark Ages fanfics. I suppose it's because they'd require Todd-like knowledge to do them really well. I'd certainly be interested in reading Pendragon and Dark Ages fanfics, but even if I was any good as a writer I'd never attempt to write one.
Ed wrote [I think the first ten episodes rather alienated many of the fans]
This certainly wasn't true for me, but then I'm odd. What does the rest of the CR think about this? Did people like the first ten eps of Pendragon or not?
Jenniren
Thursday, July 1, 1999 03:57:24 PM
IP: user-2ivf1rp.dialup.mindspring.com
Hello!! It's been a little while since I been in here... ya know too much RL crap to deal with... people wonder why I'm "not all there". ::sighs:: Anyway!!!!
It's one of my secret fantasies to lick everyone in the CR!! :o) Sadly..., I'm not joking.
I can't spend alot of time online..., just wanted to say that. See yall later!
JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 03:29:04 PM
IP: spider-wa014.proxy.aol.com
When I went online, I automatically went to go to my “Current Episode” bookmark for speedy TGS-episode-finding, before realising my blunder. *sigh*
Kathy: Interesting topic. Firstly, I think a lot of the reason for the series people select is in their nature. To break it down:
Gargoyles – this is what people know most about. The characters are familiar, and if anybody will only read one series, it’ll be Gargoyles. Easy. And the Unseelie Court allows for a great deal of diversity for anyone wanting to think up their own nemesis. Then there’s Timedancer, for which anyone can write a fanfic if they know only 2 things about the TGS series: that Brooklyn travels from place to place via the Phoenix Gate (duh) and that he has a mate (double duh) called Sata. That’s it. Any Timedancer fic is easy to pull off.
What about Pendragon and Dark Ages? Pendragon has a relatively little known cast, and a lot of new faces. And I think the first ten episodes rather alienated many of the fans, so writing fanfic for this isn’t a much-explored concept. As for Dark Ages, this does surprise me more but then it’s still fairly easy to explain. DA has a wealth of new characters, new scenarios and new relations on top of Gargoyles so many readers may not want to use it as a basis for fanfic. Also remember that DA operates in a fairly closed universe. Set events happen that we know of, and those rules make it a tough time writing for it.
I have planned to write Pendragon fanfic, albeit not based around TGS, but picking up where Gargoyles and my fanfic series leaves off. Well, the outline for 12 Gargoyles stories and 6 Pendragons have been in my head for a good 18 months now, and I’m 4 episodes through the Gargoyles series, with one of them (a New Olympians story) scrapped. I mostly work on writing projects for Clan SteelClaw now (and to be honest have far too many of them). So personally, finding time for TGS fanfic isn’t an option.
Essentially, I imagine that DA and Pendragon are the most ignored for fanwriters because they’re the most limited to write for.
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Thursday, July 1, 1999 03:13:49 PM
IP: p23-kestrel-gui.tch.virgin.net
(Trying out a new color today)
Query: After two years on the TGS staff, I have recently allowed myself to peruse the Fan Fic archive. (While I was on staff I avoided looking at it due to the types of issues being discussed over the last day or two. Since my primary job before I became a staff writer was scripting, I wanted to be careful not to be influenced by other people's work).
At any rate, I was kind of tickled to see a number of TGS universe inspired stories - especially Unseelie arc and Timedancer, but what I didn't see surprised me most. For all the comments about how we short-shrifted Pendragon, I didn't really see anyone step in and fill the void. I haven't stumbled across any Dark Ages type stories either.
So long question short. How come? Lack of interest or overwhelming curiosity as to what the staff was going to do next?
kathy
Thursday, July 1, 1999 02:49:07 PM
IP: client24156.atl.mediaone.net
Sorry to be back so soon. I just happened to have time to check out the Gov Doc section upstairs. Here's the LC web addresses.
Library of Congress Homepage
www.loc.gov
Copyright Page
www.loc.gov/copyright
Hope you find them useful.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 02:38:59 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3
Warpmind> I don't know off the top of my head. If I have the chance today, I'll find the URL for the Library of Congress webpage, specifically the Copyright section. I THINK that you'd have to register in Norway, but that there's an international agreement concerning honoring copyrights.
Freelance 2 Teaser> We had a really boring staff meeting today, so I had time to come up with the plot of the next story. It takes place in Great Britain shortly after The Enemy of My Enemy. Some of the London Gargoyles make an appearance, as does King Arthur. I'm also introducing a new recurring villian called the Witch Taker. (Just wait till I catch up to The Rising. He's going to have such FUN!)
Thanks again for everyone who enjoyed my first story, particularly those who have sent complements. I haven't gotten any insults yet, but then again I asked that those be sent to an account I never check anymore..
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, July 1, 1999 02:28:12 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3
**Kyryn sneaks into the room laughing uncontrollably**
Heather's right! That one had me ROTFLMAO (and trying to keep it quiet since I'm at work!) I'm glad I'm about to go to lunch.
**Kyryn sneaks back out snickering quietly.***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, July 1, 1999 01:32:48 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
**laughs her way into the CR room reading a script** Guys ! Go into the Gargoyles Fan Fiction New Stories and look up a story that siad "Gargoyles: The Lion King". It's so funny! It's only half way done but it's funny !
Fox, The Jogger Guy, and Servaris are the Hyena Trio!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 01:25:13 PM
IP: 98a9392e.ipt.aol.com
Pistoff: Someone steals your characters? Man, that's cheap. Uh... waitasec... whathaveIdonetoprotectmycharacters?... Ooops, gottarunguys ;) But seriously, David G, do you know the answer to my question here: I live in Norway, but is it still possible for me to register a copyright in USA? I'm seriously considering it (though, I'm sure you guys might be helpful should I ever wind up in Pistoff here's situation).
Jaden: Neat Star Wars name idea. Marus Sosol? Marus Sosol? I kinda like it. Heh. Cool.
Look, gotta go, but first:
*WARNING! WARNING! EXTREMELY VIOLENT DC & ELSEWHERE MAN DEATH*
Warpmind de InzanE sneaks unnoticed up to the Elsewhere Man and Dis Connect, who are discussing who, how, where and when they shall strike next, and a few ideas on cooperation. Warpmind digs into his pocket, bringing up two medical syringes, injecting their contents into the necks of the two villains. "Greetings, you abberations of life, electricity and timing. The substance I just injected in your bloodstream is a chemical solution containing approximately 15 billion nanocomputers each, all of which are equipped with a powerful sonic oscillator and an audio loop of the song `Bailando´. I'd guess you'll suffer total skeletal pulverization within seven hours. Good day, gentlemen."
Warpmind de InzanE nods to the two arch-evils, turns on his heels and walks away, DC and Elsewhere Man holding their ears, trying to block out the unbelievably obnoxious song.
*DC & ELSEWHERE MAN DEATH ENDED... RELATIVELY SOON*
Catch ya tomorrow, maybe?
Yours slightly more content,
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@geocities.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:27:47 PM
IP: mp-217-230-94.daxnet.no
*Arianna appears.*
Hi, all!!
Heather> I've heard of Animorphs! They're the Nickelodeon thing where the kids morph into animals...lizards and horses and flies and stuff. There's a TV series and book series based on it, no? :)
Jewel> Good to see you again!
Mandi> <<Leonard Nimoy could run for President, but for VP... maybe Brent Spiner? Spock and Data, leaders of the free world! (Or Spock and Puck, the ears match better.)>> LOL! I'm personally for a ticket with Q and Puck -- now that would be interesting. ;)
Lady Ravyn> Good to see you again! :)<<I could have used a few more scenes of interaction between them, but hey, I can't complain...(mmm...Ewan McGregor...) ;)>> He's the reason I plan on seeing that movie sometime soon. :)
There are more things I could think of to say, but my mind is a total blank right now. Of course, on the eternal bright side, my family is out of town, so there's more 'net time for me. :) See y'all later...hopefully before I go to work. :)
*Arianna disappears.*
Lady Arianna of Annwn
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:22:50 PM
IP: hil-qbu-ppw-vty70.as.wcom.net
**Mandi comes in with a tape player, blasting "Amish Paradise." She turns the volume down a notch before speaking.**
Guess what album I'm asking for when my birthday rolls around? :)
Just remembered I'd decided to use my nickname instead of my real name in the CR. Oops.
Wilek> << Kewl. Would me and Miriam count, even though we're just friends? :) >> Sure!
**stops and re-reads a post**
RAVYN!!! **hugs her just as she's recovering from Coyote's tackle** Welcome back!
SJ> Yep, the one in DC. I don't get much of a chance to listen to it while at home... at school in Frederick, the reception's much better. I'm up in north central MD, and I never really stick to one particular station. I have weird tastes in music, so I've been told - I like a lot of classic rock, some pop (NO Backstreet Boys or clones of them!), some alternative, 80's movie soundtracks, a lot of techno, only one country song and three rap songs.
Wild Wild West> I refuse to watch the series before I see the movie, otherwise I'll keep comparing the two. And besides, I'm not going in with extremely high expectations - it's a "standard" summer movie, anyway. Besides, remember when the first "Ace Ventura" came out? Every critic known to man trashed it. And yeah, it was dumb, but it was still hysterical. Anyway, if I drive tomorrow, I can get out of work at 3:30 to go pay matinee prices. If it sucks that much, we'll just theater hop. None of the ushers will notice if it's not Star Wars.
Robby> <<The funny thing being? Despite that I hate everything he's ever done, I actually like Will Smith. Wierd eh?>> Not that weird; as commercial as his stuff is, he just doesn't seem as fake as some stars who have been over-hyped (can we say DiCaprio?) As for hating everything he's ever done... ever see "Six Degrees of Separation?" That was more of a serious film, and it wasn't too bad.
**Reloads the room, and cracks up**
And again, I'm posting right after/before someone who uses the same color... heh, that's my timing for ya. :) Paul, you think we're psychic and just don't know it?
**Picks up the stereo and walks out, with the strains of "Harvey the Wonder Hamster" echoing down the hallway after her.**
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 10:34:19 AM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
Copycatting/Rip-Offs-Just put the offender in the Credits under the term, Idiot list. I haven't had people ripping off my Fanfiction, save for one, but there was room for a benefit of the doubt, so I gave the person the benefit of the doubt. There was at least one person who put one of my Stories on his/her Webpage without asking me for permission, or even informing me, and ended up on my Idiot List. Interestingly enough, this wasn't my original term, although I could think of no better name, so I had to go with that one.
Padme Naberrie-All right, I've been meaning to do this for a while now. Seriously, people, does Padme seem like the type of person to end up with a schoolgirl crush? Puh-leease. That is very, very far off. Oh, and I also noticed, and no, this wasn't the final straw, I'd been intending to mention this today without what I noticed... The addendum here is what I noticed; reference to a pick-up line.
Why must anyone interpret Anakin's question the way it wasn't meant? Furthermore, since I'm on a similar topic, when someone mentions 'love', why is it usually always thought to be boyfriend-girlfriend like? There's a new FINAL FANTASY Game coming out that is supposed to have a theme of love, and many people are wondering who the love interest is. I'm wondering what form of love, and/or forms, the Game is talking about. Maybe all forms, and how they touch life.
FINAL FANTASY VI-Robby, the Finale was great! That's the first Video Game I saw where life was explained so well, how the characters attempted to reason with Kefka, even though he was insane, was neat. The Ending did resolve everything, too. Finally, the Final Boss needs to reflect the Character of the Final Boss. Kefka is a coward, and inexperienced with wielding power. His tripartite creature he summons up to do his dirty work packs most of the punch, no matter how skilled the characters are, that thing is a pain. Zeromus was capable of holding his own. Kefka wasn't.
"Well, guess what!? There's no such thing as fate! People determine their own future! You can change your fate like you can change your underpants!"-Jessica de Alkirk
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 10:24:29 AM
IP: 35.morristown-01-02rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
Okay, I lied ... one more.
Kyryn: The northern Hell you're thinking of is in Michigan, just outside of Holland on the west side of the lower peninsula.
**beams at Lady Ravyn once more**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:49:40 AM
IP: modem21.i-is.com
Two quickies while I get ready for work this morning ...
Jaden: That name bit didn't work too well for me, either ... it produced a character with an unpronounceable last name (Donma Wealg).
**hits Lady Ravyn's post ... eyes widen ... breathing quickens ...**
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
**SPRINGS out of the big chair and pulls her into a huge hug**
Even if it's few and far between ... welcome home, Rav!
Oh, and as far as the package goes ... uhmm ... could ya just give yer 'rents the heads-up that I'm sending it? I mean if you tell them I promised it to you all the way back in February, I'm sure they'll understand ... and if there's one thing I always strive to do, it's keep my promises. :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:47:03 AM
IP: modem21.i-is.com
**Kyryn sneaks in***
SJ> Don't worry about concepts. The ripping off issue comes when you borrow wholesale specific characters, races, etc. There are only so many plotlines in the world that can be used. Professional writers have told me this. For example: you can have Brooklyn fighting vampires in the Labrinyth, just so long as the characters aren't close to Doug's and the fight sequences aren't obviously lifted from his fics. Those of us who write (and edit) know that the collective writing unconscious sometimes gives the same idea to different people at close to the same time.
Lady Ravyn> Good to see you back! Heat> Well I feel lucky so far, we haven't hit the 100's in Southwest and North Texas yet this summer (although, I think that this weekend is supposed to get real hot).
Airwalker> *sigh* stuff like that is exactly the reason I stopped reading Marvel about 5 years ago.
Jaden> Well, I become Betrn Hedal. I don't think that quite works....
Wild, Wild, West> *sigh* I may or may not go see this. I grew up watching reruns of the original series and I'm kinda afraid to see what they've done to it. Pardon me and no offense to anyone of color in here, but I still can't see a black James West (it's not a racial thing - it just doesn't quite fit, although Will Smith does look kewl in the period clothing)-- that and the fact that in the promos he's introduces himself as 'Jim' West. Only Artie ever called him Jim in the original, and he never introduced himself as anything but James West.
Wilek> If I remember correctly, there's a town called Hell in Texas. There's also one in one of the northern border states-- Hell literally does freeze over in the winter.
Later all!
**Kyryn sneaks out***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:40:46 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Hi all!!
Pistoff:Sorry to hear about your story ideas being stolen...so ya gonna tell us what your going to do to him;)
Airwalker:P.C. got to the Punisher!! Marvel sucks more than ever!
Gunjack/Peter:see ya's when you come back,a lot of people seem to be leaving and comming back,lately speaking of which..Welcome back Ravyn!!:)
Gotta go Goodnight all!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Thursday, July 1, 1999 09:00:40 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
SEVARIUS JR. - Banquo and Fleance were indeed Quarrymen in the opening episode of The Goliath Chronicles: "The Journey". They didn't show up again after that, though.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, July 1, 1999 06:55:53 AM
IP: 205-242-191-102.dialup-stl.primary.net
**RP!**
[The Ice Dagger touches down in the Avatar's docking bay, and Djedi and Toliana exit, to find Commander Khesaat there. Khenmuur: "Ikeni, why in the worlds did you call us back? We could have helped back there!" Khesaat: "Really? No offense, old friend, but your talents lie more in covert action than the kind of melee that's going on down there right now. You'll be more useful here, helping us figure out a strategy that we can use against that thing. You two come with me; we're going to the command center." Toliana: "Command? Like your boss will ever let us in *there*." Khesaat: "Agent Rho isn't there just now; he's down on Earth helping to coordinate the ground attack. I'm here helping with the orbital side of things. Now come on, we have a war to win!" They take a turbolift to the station's bridge.]
**END RP!**
Coyote> <<I just sketched up two silly little pictures ... which I might scan later ... that I call "G:CM Comes to Dallas: A Two Part Study in the Theater of the Absurd." (okay, maybe without the TotA part. ;) Anyway, pic #1 is Greg meeting Liberty...big fun. The more fun one is pic #2...Thom Adcox Hernandez meets Pontiac and Cadillac.>> LOL! You have to scan those! :D
Gathering 2K Fund> <sigh> I can afford it, and I'll be in Florida next summer...but I'll be there in July and the Gathering will probably be in June. Somebody gon' DIE.
Gunjack Valentine> <<At aproximately 8:30 AM today, I will board a bus that will seperate me from this wonderous trove of imagination for more than a month...>> @#^#$%^&%^!! Not you too! Why is everyone leaving?!! <<I hereby leave my brain to Skippy, my eternal "aye" vote to Toku, and my Rayiker M117 automatic cannon to whoever puts it to good use.>> <grabs the cannon, laughing insanely>
Airwalker> <<Instead of calling this New World Tour just World Tour number 2, I suggest perhaps refering to it as the AFTERMATH QUEST might be a good idea.>> Or better, the Aftermath Odyssey? :)
Pistoff> <<I wouldn't fly there, though; planes crash far too often for my taste.>> Ugh, mine too. I remember the crash of a Japanese airliner that claimed the lives of several hundred ppl. Turns out it was because it had been repaired improperly. The official who approved the repair committed suicide when he heard about what happened. This is why I haven't been able to get to any Gatherings. <<So ... who wants to tie me up? :o)>> Let us not even *think* about that. ;P Oh, and...as for this this Rodlox...[Wilek wheels in a familiar looking torture device.] Feel free to borrow Mr. Thingy. I believe you've seen it in action against Mr. Disconnect? >:) <<Sorry about the language in my rant. I should've censored it.>> Under the circumstances, it's quite understandable. <grr> If this idiot steals Darkblade Man (from my first fic)...<<I'd certainly be willing to do it, but the management wouldn't. Dallas is kinda outside our delivery area. ;)>> Heh...we could have someone in your area kidnap you when you get to his/her house, then drag you to the Gathering. :>
Ironwolf> *You're* leaving too? Seems like no one just sticks around. ;P
Mandi> <<Got a proposal for you all - the Committee to Get Everyone's Significant Others to G2000!>> Kewl. Would me and Miriam count, even though we're just friends? :)
Green Baron> <<I ahev discovered an unhealthy net-addiction,a nd I realized how bad a problem I had when my mother caught me on-line at 4:30 in the morning, because of Attila's meowing.>> You think that's bad? Sometimes I don't realize just how long I've been online until I realize the sun's almost up. Back when I turned to stone during the day...let's just say Miriam had an interesting time explaining keyboard gravel to the repair guy. <g>
Skippy> <<And I return everyone's greetings with a big thumping Ker'Plop!>> Err...no comment. <G> <<you wouldn't belive how hard it is to type with a straight jacket on>> I hear from a certain Trill that Klingons are surprisingly flexible. <grins innocently>
Peter> Yet another clan member is leaving. <sigh> It's only temporary, but there seems to be a *lot* of ppl temporarily leaving lately. (Oh, and you're welcome. ^_^)
SJ> <<About one year ago (last summer), I came up with a "5 season arc".>> Guess who else has. :) I see all these independently-created ideas that are nonetheless quite similar as a product of the Gargoyles Sub-Collective (thanks to whoever coined 'Sub-Collective'; I know it wasn't me) Consciousness. My theory is that Gargoyles, far from being a mere TV show and collection of fics, is an entity unto itself, and that it gravitates toward certain themes. I'm convinced that the show, had it been allowed to continue, would have ended up demonstrating a great many of the themes that have shown up in fics--witness Greg and Coyote independently naming Broadway's kid Samson--because of what an outsider would think was simple coincidence, but what we know is the work of the Sub-Collective. (Someone please kill me if I start to sound like L. Ron Hubbard.)
Lady Ravyn> Welcome back (again)! <hugz>
Shogun Raptor> And this Elsewhere Man is the previously mentioned unfortunate individual who is gon' DIE. Eventually. >:) Thanks for introducing him--the more victims, the merrier. >:)
Jaden> Star Wars name? Interesting...
Robby> <<I don't understand how his wife puts up with him...>> He's married? The poor girl. <<Wales, England, Hell, or Britain in general... Hmmm...>> A clan in Hell? I'm not sure that would work. I mean, there are so few gargoyles who would end up there, it wouldn't be much of a clan. ;P j/k (Wait a minute, isn't there a town somewhere in Europe called Hell? There could be a clan there.)
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, July 1, 1999 03:18:03 AM
IP: tnt-2-113-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
**Robby enters humming the chorus from Wierd AL's new song.
"Oh my my, this here Anakin guy, May be Vader Someday later but for now he's just a small fry... "
Wierd Al fan, what can I say?
**Robby skims the posts available** Hmm, Coyote's gonna be happy... RAVYN! WELCOME BACK! Stay, please!
To any who haven't yet, check the Station Eight CR to see my very long write up on my trip to the Gathering. I exceeded the text limit for one post!
Jaden- That Star Wars name thingie doesn't work too well for me... I mean... Robbe Dansan. My first name doesn't change except for the spelling, and the last name makes me a relative of a man named Ted.
Crocadile Hunter- Steve Irwin... I love that guy! He's crazy, but fun to watch... I don't understand how his wife puts up with him...
Final Fantasy 3- Sure it's an old game, but I only recently had a chance to play it for the first time. Its a great game with great graphics, characters, and storyline, but it has many faults, the largest being that with a little patience, you characters can become godlike and all powerful. I swear, after 40 or so hours of playing, and being royally ticked off and longing to kill the final bad guy Kefka in revenge, I get no satisfaction in the battle because I kill him in under two minutes without getting hit! No last minute desperation, no climactic end of the story, and even if my characters had been killed there were 8 more to take their place... Great game up until the end... Especially the ending which, while long, resolved almost nothing of any given character's plot... Part two did much better in that regard, as no matter how powerful you were, the final dude took forever to kill just because he had so many hitpoints, and the ending resolved just about every plot line... Oh well...
Airwalker- Wales, England, Hell, or Britain in general... Hmmm...
Jewel- I don't remember if I said it or not... Welcomes back!
Green Baron- Admit it... That wasn't a Preston Vogel costume, that's how you always dress!
Coyote- Group pics of couples normally and then smoochin... I like that idea...
Wild Wild West- I don't care what any reviews say for it, CR or otherwise, I'm not seeing this movie. I never really liked Fresh Prince of Bel Air, (Except the Butler) I really did not like Independance Day, Men In Black wasn't nearly as good as the series, I hate rap videos which is the only music Will SMith does, and Wild Wild West looks to be more of the same Will Smith garbage. I'm not interested in seeing it at all. The funny thing being? Despite that I hate everything he's ever done, I actually like Will Smith. Wierd eh?
Eh, may as well say it now... Around July 4th and the week following that and maybe then some, I likely won't be here, but instead in San Angelo with my cousin Bryan, the same annual summer trip I've had every year for some time... But that's still a few days away...
**RP**
Jim Iza Noying looks at the bunch of guys in cloaks with the silver daggers who have just been given the Saban like order to have him "sent to the next dimension" And, not being a total idiot, he hesitantly turns around, and RUNS! Silver daggers are thrown and pass right by him, to his left, to his right, and on a few occassions, right behind him. But, its basically a universal law that flunkies can't hit the bread side of a barn, let alone a moving target.
Eventually, Jim is safe, but it is only then he realizes, he left Tina behind! He begins to plan a method to recue her, when he hears something growl. He turns... To see a polar bear right in his face...
Robby
Thursday, July 1, 1999 03:04:09 AM
IP: spider-wj061.proxy.aol.com
Well, my regular email seems to be working again ...
Anyway ...
Robby: Thanks. Still, I tend to get carried away, and it's easy for me to go too far. It's just been a helluva week, heh. First my novel gets rejected, then ... Well, Rodlox picked the WRONG time to mess with me.
Sylvia, SJ, Doug: Thanks to you, too. Don't worry, this guy will pay a terrible price for what he's done. ;)
Peter: Thanks, also. And I'm glad you enjoy the stories. =)
SJ: And thank you, too. We'll miss you over the 4th. Hope you have a good time. Don't worry too much about that "originality" thing, though. Especially when you're talking about vampire stuff. Vampire stories have been done for quite a long time. In addition, there aren't really any "new" ideas anymore. The "new" stuff depends on your execution of the idea. Any story can be broken down into one of several basic plots--the revenge story, the love story, etc, etc. Many stories have several of these going on at once. But if you do it well, people will enjoy your work.
And I agree about the NBA draft and sports in general. There's no excuse for pre-empting a good show with this crap. Why don't they just keep it on ESPN where it belongs?
Airwalker: They did WHAT to the Punisher?? It's been a couple of years since I read this series--comic books are too expensive for me to justify buying them anymore, and there are just too many titles to keep up with--so I didn't know that Marvel had ruined this character. Why does this stuff keep happening? They have a perfectly good character, and then they start messing around with him ...
Sigh.
About Demona and the Punisher: It all depends on how they meet. If she sees him in action a few times, or somehow learns why he does what he does, she might be intrigued. At least, she might be content to sit back and let Frank blow away certain humans so she won't be bothered by it. She might see him as something of a kindred spirit, though Frank wouldn't agree, at least not if he knew of her background. If he didn't ... well, I just had this picture of them doing things like training together, cleaning their weapons together, going to target ranges and stuff like that. If they could somehow be in the same room together without trying to kill each other for a few minutes, I think we'd be hearing a rather interesting conversation.
But then, after the way the last couple of days have gone, my brain isn't working properly. You can take this with a grain of salt, heh. ;)
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 02:44:25 AM
IP: wire-16.koalas.com
Pistoff: What happened with that guy stealing your work stinks. Hope you get him good. If someone ever did that with my work...<growls>
Green Baron: You better go back and read Through the Ages again, man. Ares was not Beowulf. An unnamed Viking drinking buddy of his, yes. But not the guy himself. Just thought I'd make you clear on that.
Will post more later, right now I'm too tired from wasting my money on the latest <bleah> film- Wild Wild West. Night.
Doug
Thursday, July 1, 1999 02:10:10 AM
IP: pool-207-205-237-85.dlls.grid.net
*glides in*
**************BEGIN WILD, WILD WEST SPOILERS*************
Awesome movie!!!! Will Smith and Kevin Kline were great. At the beginning of the movie Will Smith was already getting some! Kevin Kline's gadgets were pretty damn kewl. And the special effects were very good. I highly recomend this movie! It was _REALLY_ good!!!
**************END WILD, WILD WEST SPOILERS*************
*glides out*
Dags - [Dagastino_2000@hotmail.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 01:49:32 AM
IP: 216.1.24.207
NO RP TONIGHT
Sorry I havn't been here for awhile, but what can I say except
midterm + cold + work = burn out
But now I'm over the cold YAY!
I've been really busy and I havn't had the chance to look at the rest of last weeks posts to see if anyone asked me anything.
By the way what was that movie site that had the Gargoyle movie review? I forgot to bookmark it. I found this really cool way to make up your own Star Wars name...
1. Take the first 3 letters of your first name- Dav
2. Take the last 2 letters of your last name- en
Daven
3. Take the first 2 letters of your mothers maiden name-
Fr (makes a <fur> sound)
4. Take the first 3 letters of your home town- los
Daven Frlos
Well, I'll make a longer post when I have time.
See ya later!
Jaden - [smokey1@silcom.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 01:33:17 AM
IP: pm1-34.vpop1.avtel.net
PISTOFF - You wrote: [And the Punisher isn't a superhero, he's just a guy with a lot of guns and a bullet-proof vest.]
Actually Marvel revamped the character earlier this year. I didn't read it but the main point now is that he commited suicide and came back as a mystical being, complete with a glowing symbol on his forehead, two guns that magically appear and disappear at his command and that shoot bullets that kill devils which he now hunts. He also no longer kills anyone but literally punishes them. For example instead of shooting someone for doing something, he'll punish them by breaking all their fingers or something like that. Also now the Punisher's family was killed because his guardian angel (literally) was distracted.
Like I said, I didn't actually read it but I caught this much from lurking in the Marvel Universe newsgroup.
On Demona and the Punisher (the original version not the revamped crap), I think that he would just shoot her. And then she would get up about five minutes later and well - let's just say that it would be very graphic and grizzly.
GREEN BARON - I don't think that Rome would be a target. The Pope has a lot of spiritual power but he doesn't have any armies or Gargoyles that would demand an immediate response in the very first stage of the war. Madoc would launch outright attacks only on Gargoyle Clans, and on places where there was a magical threat. The Pope might be a threat later on when the world is conquered but in the first stage when the world is being conquered and nothing is certain, a baby quaterling is more dangerous than any human army or Pope.
FRODO - Siberia is a good possiblity. I discounted it because there has been some population movement in that area in the last hundred years and it might not be as isolated as people think.
I figure that a Gargoyle Clan in Antarctica could sustain itself on Polar Bears, Seals, Penguins, and Fish.
Also who is to say that there might not be some lost valley ala Marvel Comics Savage Land where there might be a more temperate environment. I mean since "all things are true" is a rule in the Gargoyles Universe, Shangri-La has to be somewhere. It could always be in Antarctica.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:47:59 AM
IP: 43.new-york-26-27rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
*walks in* given Sevarius Jr's Impending absence, I feel i would be best to introduce a new punching bag to our pantheon of demons such as Mr. DisConnect and Sli Sludge:
*wheels in what appears to be an overweight balding man in an ill-fitting "I'm with stupid" T-shirt, Bemuda shorts, black socks and sandals, strapped to an autopsy cart* Meet, Elsewhere man, he's who torture when unexpected travel keeps you from the net or what you want to do, this being his introduction (someone tell me if there's someone else like this)
*** PARTICULARLY GRUESOME ElSEWHERE MAN DEATH****
While he is still alive, Shogun Raptor takes out an odd black cylinder, He slices Elsewhere Man's torso open with a scalpel* This is for my missing this gathering, My friend who is away from a computer up in Oberon-Knows-Where and Sevarius Jr.!!!! *he unscrews the lid of the canister and dumps a handful of black gems into the incision and stiches it back up, he inserts a pair of gems into his ears* For you I have the most gruesome fate imaginable: to be devoured by the ultra-rare Insecta carnivora Lavida Loca, the Ricky Martin Scarab! *Elsewhere man screams in pain for two reasons, first because he is being devoured for the inside, secondly because the carniovorous beetles are singing "Livin' La Vida Loca" while they eat*
Shogun Raptor
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:44:24 AM
IP: ppp-26.mia-tc-1.netrox.net
**A figure in a long robe walks into the room, holding a candle in one hand. It replaces the candle already on the table, lighting the new one before glancing around quickly. Then the figure throws off the robe...and it's Ravyn!**
Well, I'm back a bit sooner than I thought...just wanted to let y'all know I still wander 'round these parts every once in a while...although my posts may be few and far between...but I have LOTS of time right now! *grins*
**slaps self on forehead** I forgot to tell everybody who was heading off to the Gathering to have a great time! Well, I'm glad to hear y'all did though, and I love hearing your stories. Too bad I had to miss it, tho. *sigh* Oh, well...and Coyote, still thinking of you...and what's this I hear about a tape? **smiles** You really *are* the sweetest. Thank you SO much! Although I don't know how I'm gonna get ahold of anything from ya without my parents flipping out...
**crosses talons** Maybe, just MAYBE I can go to the Gathering next year in Orlando! I absolutely love it in Florida, so maybe I can convince my parents to let me go...:)
Ach, I've been gone so long, I've forgotten to say so many things! So here goes, sorry if you've already discussed these about a thousand times, but...
OLD TOPICS I'M COMMENTING ON WHETHER YA LIKE IT OR NOT! ;)
1. TGS guys, y'all did a wonderful job on those final Unseelie attack stories. I was absolutely riveted the whole time, and I'll admit I was a bit choked up when Elisa got hit with that arrow. I thought she'd never make it, and Demona proved to be quite a surprise...;) So did Harrison! Well, unlikely heroes are usually the best...
2. Okay, I'll say it...STAR WARS: EPISODE ONE ROCKED!!! I just saw it for my third time, and I've never seen a movie in a theater more than twice. The absolute best were the two Jedi Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. I could have used a few more scenes of interaction between them, but hey, I can't complain...(mmm...Ewan McGregor...) ;) And also, that was one of the cutest pick-up lines ever in a movie: "Are you an angel?" (grins) :)
3. My own mixed-up life: I've found out who my real Grandfather was...and he was a bona-fide McPhail! So at least I know I'm at least partly a true Scot...now I just have to look up the history of that clan...*my* clan...and also, my really cool uncle keeps telling me that someday I'll have to go to England with him, and he's been pushing that a lot lately, so I'm thinking some more answers might be there...he's actually had me put in the papers to get a passport and everything...but enough about that for now. ;)
4. I have to say that there had better be a gargoyle clan in Arizona! Heck, they could live down here in the desert with me! And just so y'all know, there really *is* a castle about an hour from where I live up in some mountains...It's a perfect location, and it's pretty close to Tucson, which is a fairly big city that they could protect...:)
5. Speaking of Arizona desert, it's awful HOTdown here. I've just been through Lake Havasu City, where it was like 120 degrees. That was way too hot. I was also just in a place called Keams Canyon up on the Hopi Indian Reservation...and it was so cool there! (and I mean cool as in hip, because it was still 100 or so degrees even in the canyon) It was nice and peaceful. A great experience. And I was also just in Phoenix, where it was 109. Ugh. Although I still *love* the summers here! (I know I'm crazy...) ;)
6. Weird Al's new album: I CAN'T WAIT!!! I'm a big fan of Al's, and his Star Wars spoof looks great...;)
Well, this post is already WAY too long. As my last thought, I want to thank the TGS staffers again...for upgrading my wonderful name! ;)
Until next time...
Lady Ravyn
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:44:20 AM
IP: 207.204.224.8
No RP tonight, or most likely any night for a long time. I'm probably going to be going out of town in the next few days for the 4th holiday, and I won't be back in here until the latter part of next week :( . I should be able to post tomorrow, but after that, it's uncertain, and I don't want to get involved in anything myself. However, everyone else I'm involved with in the RP can use my character as they see fit, I'll just catch up when I return. :-)
*****SOUTH PARK REVIEW*****
This may be the funniest movie I've seen since last summer's "There's Something About Marry". This is one of the most offensive movies I've seen, filled with shock humor only those fine lads, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, could create. In other words--I LOVED it! As good as the early episodes of South Park were, this movie is better; it just may be the best "episode" of South Park, ever. The 4 kids were great, and the other characters--especially Saddam and Satan (I will NEVER look at Hussein the same way again!)--are just too muckin' fuch! Even though I know South Park has kind of run out of steam, this movie delivered it for me. Two thumbs up!
***END SOUTH PARK REVIEW****
Didn't go see WWW today. It's gotten totally raped by the critics though...I'm sorry to any Smith/Kline fans, but this movie just *looks* bad...
Originality in Fan Fiction: First off, Pissy, I gotta agree with you--that guy's totally ripped you off, and he should be ashamed of it.
Now onto the topic at hand....I'm *very* worried about my own fics, which are "in development" right now, being considered original. Why? Because, well, in the past few months, several of the concepts that I've come up with for my own fan fiction have been used by others (I guess great minds think alike, huh?). For example, in my fics, I plan to have Brooklyn fight some vampires in the Labyrinth....well, Doug has sort of taken care of that, hasn't he? I mean, he came up with an original concept, and so did I (I came up with that story concept a while ago), and we both did it independently, but I'm afraid now that I'll seem to be lacking originality should I ever post that particular story....
Part of it is my...well, laziness. About one year ago (last summer), I came up with a "5 season arc". I planned out an entire "5 seasons", a la TGS, of my own gargoyle fan fiction. That's five seasons worth of story ideas, several ideas per season. Fast forward one year later--only about two stories our done. But...I worry that, when I do get around to writing a story, that other will see me as ripping off their concept even though I thought of it as well, on my own, months before they may have published their own on the net. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not being malicious, I'm not claiming to have come up with all these great ideas, it's just that I do have some cool concepts thought up, and others, coincidentally, have come up with similar ones... Oh well, I'm just rambling here, verbalizing my fears.
Batman Beyond Fans: Apperently, a new Batman Beyond comic book series has been ordered by DC comics. The first issue even has the original Batman, Bruce!, taking on Terry! (Batman Dos) Sounds cool!
Mandi: Umm....what HFS station do you mean? Do you mean WHFS? In Washington D.C.? Personally, I listen to that station all the time, day and night. It's the only station that plays the kind of music I like: alternative, industrial, a little bit of metal, and some techno on the weekends. You can't find bands like Orgy, Korn, White Zombie, or Lo Fidelity Allstars on any other station, it's all either dance music crap (DIE Z104!!), country (ugh), or the worst, RAP.
Plus it'd be cool to know a fellow CR dweller lives in the DC area. I think Jeb lives somewhere in Maryland....
Quick Question: In TGC, were Banquo or Fleance ever Quarrymen? I think they were....just want to make sure....
Oh well, off to watch Crusade, which is unfortunately coming on at midnight.....damn NBA draft. May each and every one of their no-good "rookie" hineys be cursed with a dozen child-support payments to make a month. That'll take the fun out of that signing bonus!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:17:14 AM
IP: 207-172-120-35.s35.tnt14.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Sorry for the double post.
Wilek> Thanks for the sites.
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:05:27 AM
IP: kam-53-0178.direct.ca
Pistoff> What a jerk! I hope you give him exactly what he deserves. Oh, and your fics are awesome.
Frodo> There are always penguins...
Stormy> We'll miss you.
Kat and Skippy> Welcome!
Heather> Cool pic.
I bought World Driver Championship for N64 last and it rocks! Despite what a lot of reviewers have to say (all of which no doubt played it for less than two hours), it is an awesomely realistic racing game. I recomend it to anyone who is a fan of racing simulations.
I will be counselling at a bible camp for at least the next three weeks starting on Sunday and I am looking forward to this a lot. Unfortunately I will only be able to post on Saturday during this period.
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, July 1, 1999 12:04:36 AM
IP: kam-53-0178.direct.ca
Hi all!
Pistoff- I'm pretty sure that guy will be on the run after everyone gets through with him ;) Anyway, sorry to hear about that.
Gathering 2000- I might actually be able to go! Yay! Although, if it's at the end of June, I won't be able to go :(, but I asked my mom and she said that I might be able to. Oops! that got a bit stretched! Anyhoo, that's all for tonight! see ya all later!
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 11:59:16 PM
IP: 1cust63.tnt7.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
I don't have the energy for an Obnoxiously Long Post at the moment. An hour long spellcheck on a 30 page document kind of killed my reserves of creativity. Here's just a few random bits.
Guess the Destination contest> I don't have the time to catalog all these things. Sorry, folks. We'll just have to use the Archives.
Copyright Laws> Here's the way copyrights really work. I've looked into this becaues (a) I'd like to be a professional writer and (b) I work in a library that's a Federal Government Document Depository. As soon as you write something, assuming it's original material to begin with, you have a copyright on it. It's yours, all yours, and nobody can take it away. Of course, you have no way to prove that until you register it somewhere. For totally original material, apply for Copyright registration, which you can probably do at your local library, or on line. I'll find the Library of Congress webpage if you guys want. For 'shared' material, like a Star Trek episode, register it with the Screenwriter's Guild. They probably have a webpage, too. As a last resort, put your work in an envelope and mail it to yourself. Never, ever, for any reason, open the envelope except as evidence in a court. The postmark proves when the document was mailed, and the contents couldn't have been created after that date. Just dating the material inside yourself is no good, cause you could have written any old date you wanted.
Fanfic> (bragging warning) My friend Chris, who doesn't frequent this site and read my disk copy, liked it. Somebody else apparently did as well, since it had a rating of five stars when I looked this afternoon. Thanks! (end bragging).
Fanfic 2>(teaser warning) The next story I have in mind probably involves Arthur and Company, but I haven't figured out how. Down the line I intend to have Jamie run into one or more members of the Pack, and explore their origins. (end teasers)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:58:16 PM
IP: pppa57-fortworthb18-1r663.saturn.bbn.com
Pistoff- DOn't worry about the language in your rant. In this case it was justified, and didn't pass the PG-13 maximum. Its sawright.
Robby
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:57:50 PM
IP: spider-wa052.proxy.aol.com
Weird Al's website for his new album - or more specifically, his SW: TPM parody. :-) Click and see!
Speaking of SW spoofs/parodies, at www.theforce.net, there's a link somewhere to an 80-second animated parody of the trailer from TPM. It's kinda stupid, but I found it funny. *g*
Coyote the Bando> Getting couples together for the Gathering... that's a cute idea. :-) I sincerely hope it works.
Blue Caeru - [<--Weird Al's new song]
Florida, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:49:27 PM
IP: spider-wi061.proxy.aol.com
Green Baron> Cool you remembered the Roman Clan I did. I thought about writting a stroy or two about them but I not shure. I did wright their history but that was awhile back.
Lawrence Stone - [Craft_Celtic@yahoo.com]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:43:49 PM
IP: chil-ras2-1-cs-21.dial.bright.net
Sorry about the double post, but ...
Robby: Your post came in while I was typing mine. Thanks, bud. I didn't really intend for everybody to flame this guy, but I did leave his addy here in case somebody happened by and wanted to have a little fun ... ;)
Sorry about the language in my rant. I should've censored it. But I was kinda honked-off ... heh. I'll keep myself under better control from now on.
Oh, and my email service seems to have gotten some bugs in it. That's why I put an alternate email addy in my last post. I hope they get it fixed. Anti-social.com is just such a fun email address to have. :)
Pissy
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:29:36 PM
IP: 207.48.109.50
Green Baron: Ah, okay. I'd certainly be willing to do it, but the management wouldn't. Dallas is kinda outside our delivery area. ;)
Kyryn: Well, the date that I uploaded my first fic, "Two Minutes to Midnight," is listed in the author list in the archive. It's actually later than I originally posted it, because the aarchive crashed and all my stories were lost, and I had to re-post them. Even so, before the very first time I posted "Two Minutes," I submitted it to Christine for the Fanfic Debut in AvMists. Christine can attest that Koz and the Gra'athi are mine. Also, at the time, I couldn't get any of my fics uploaded because of a problem with my browser, so Merlin Missy offered to post it for me if I emailed it to her, so that's what I did. Merlin Missy also knows that I created these characters before Rodlox. That was months ago, long before Rodlox invaded my territory. Thanks, I'm sure it'll work out fine. In fact, his punishment has already begun ... ;)
Mandi: I emailed Rodlox just after I posted my rants in this CR, S8, and the Adult CR. And my email was even more vicious than the rant I posted in here. I'm sure I already have the little planarian worm on the run. And I've got friends working him over, too. :)
Coyote: Thanks, bud. First I'm gonna grill him, then I'm gonna rake him over a cheese grater, then I'll think up a few more things to do to him. He'll end up having to file a restraining order against me. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:20:37 PM
IP: 207.48.109.50
Mowed lawn... Typed up really really long Gathering report in Station 8's CR... Finally beat Final Fantasy 3 and was rather dissapointed in the ending... Am currently too tired to do much...
Pistoff- THat SUCKS man. The room as a whole could flame though that wouldn't solve anything...
Wierd Al has a new album out? Bout dang time. Bad Hair Day came out what... Five years ago? I must visit Target tommarrow...
Real post later when I have some energy...
Robby
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:05:55 PM
IP: spider-wa084.proxy.aol.com
Sorry for the double post ...
Uniting couples at the Gathering: While on IM this evening, I just had an inspiration ... if we can get enough of the room's couples together, we ougtta do two group pics of everybody ...
... one normal one and one with everybody smooching.
**ducks in the big chair before he can be stoned too badly**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:49:15 PM
IP: 207.91.254.95
**enters the room, rolling a barbecue grill over in Pissy's direction. Takes a moment to light tonight's candle from the roaring fire already roasting the coals within before switching the candles out, then brings it the rest of the way to Pistoff.**
Here, when ya get yer hands on that claim-jumping jerkface, feel free to serve up some barbecue! :)
Seriously, though ... that's really very low-class of Mr. Rodlox. I'm certainly glad he didn't submit anything to WCC ... I would wonder if he'd stolen them from someone else. (For that matter, I don't know if he would try stealing anything from anyone else ... **protectively covers up G:CM's properties, *especially* the Rokkans**)
Mandi: If you insist ... whenever I can figure out how the hell to get my scanner workin', it's going up.
Incidentally, Mandi, your fundraising idea ... genius. Sheer genius. In fact, Starsinger and I had a similar idea, just on a smaller scale ...
GB: The pleasure was distinctly mine, good sirrah. :)
Shogun: DBZ with Tourette's? **This** I've gotta see. :)
New "Weird Al": ARRRGH!! I'm going CRAZY!! Somebody link up to his site QUICK!! :)
**sits back in the big chair, fixating once more.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:42:44 PM
IP: 207.91.254.95
And I return everyone's greetings with a big thumping Ker'Plop!
So, here are a couple thoughts on the present threads...
SHATNER FOR PRESIDENT: No, but I can recommend Shatner for deity status. In fact a good friend of mine has this wonderful little webiste The First Church of Shatnerology. As a card carrying, born again Shatnerolgist, I can heartily recommend the wonders of becoming TOUPEE'D!!!
WEIRD AL: The Saga Begins is most Froon! Saw the clip on his site and was most heartily impressed with Darth Maul's skill as a pianist....
OFFERS TO RID ME OF MY SANITY: sorry, I've already had that little problem taken care of...and you wouldn't belive how hard it is to type with a straight jacket on :)
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Payne Springs , TX, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:36:38 PM
IP: uv1-31.ultravision.net
Airwalker: Hmmm....as for the last 11 places (unknowns) Im wondering how you see a Gargoyle clan living in Antartica... maybe you have some more info on that area than I....but the problem I see is simple, yet big...what would they eat? I think I can see two places wich would be more habitable....Siberia: not to many humans per square mile and enough food. And (possilby biassed) right here in Iceland...here the central 'highlands' are devoid of people and more food than in Antartica...and warmer to. Your comments?
Frodo
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:08:51 PM
IP: ras130.vortex.is
The plants are watered. I shall live another day.
Hehehe... just turned on the radio to find that HFS is playing "Just the Two of Us" - the Dr. Evil version, that is. I don't normally listen to that station, but sometimes they play some good stuff. I've GOT to get the soundtrack, just for that track if nothing else.
Green Baron> <<Is Dave be your SO, or semi-SO? :)>> Just one of my best friends. Despite what my relatives and his sister seem to think, we're neither dating nor serious. (Actually, we're never serious, but that's another story...) I think not dating makes it safer somehow; besides, we've been friends way too long. The reason I've had so much time to post this week is because he's in Boston and we can't call each other to talk about nothing for a couple hours straight. I still want to drag him down for G2000 somehow, just for the heck of it...
Weird Al> You know that VH1's next "Behind the Music" is about him? That one I think I'll watch.
Pistoff> If you haven't already, I'd tell him to take the story off the archive. You have every right to do so - you created those characters a LONG time ago, and several regulars here can attest to that. If he won't, e-mail Chris Rogers to get that story pulled. That's a really immature stunt for him to pull, taking someone else's characters without permission and then claiming he made them up.
David> Still making my way through "Truce," but I'll be sure to check out "Enemy of my Enemy" when I can.
Lexy> Okay, you're with me... I know I'm going to get my behind down to Orlando somehow, so I'm still holding on to the Pendragon plea! :)
Kyryn> <<Yeah, somewhat paranoid, I know; but it's one reason that I don't post any of my original stuff that I plan for eventual publication on the web.>> You're not alone in that so-called paranoia; I won't post original stuff on the web either.
Random thought - recently had to go through my tapes to find SG-1 episodes, and ended up getting caught up on "The Sopranos." Anyone hear when its new season starts?
**MILD "EARSHOT" SPOILERS!**
Okay, I watched it, and was even more irritated that they pulled it. What a great episode! I can see why they pulled it, though; Xander's comments ("Who hasn't idly thought about moving everyone down with a semi-automatic? ...I said idly!") and the apparent scenario with Jonathan in the clock tower with a rifle did kind of hit close to home. Still, it was great. Loved the fact that Xander accurately predicted just who the killer was, even if he was being his usual wiseass self. Doug said almost everything else I wanted to say about this, and I give it the same rating: 10/10. The ending scene was absolutely priceless; I had to watch it again before I left work.
**END SPOILERS**
That's all - need to make some phone calls to get a bunch of people together to see "Wild Wild West" on Friday. :) For those still wanting to see the "Earshot" RealPlayer clips, the new location is linked to my name.
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:00:57 PM
IP: p1-40.netgsi.com
**Kyryn peers in***
Pistoff> Do you have info in writing as to when you created the Gra-athi? If so, then you technically have right-of-creation. The characters aren't officially copyrighted to you unless you've filed a copyright with the government. If you have info that proves you've created the species and info about them, then contact the webmaster and ask him to remove/contact the other author about his illegal use of characters. You can definitely prove your case regarding Koz (since your fics were posted far earlier) if this person posts further fics that prove that the named person is paralleling your descriptions. Just using the name isn't enough (unless it's copyrighted), otherwise we would have lots of lawsuits over character names. Note: I've been known to take info on my original characters and universe and type it up, date it, seal it into an envelope, and mail it to myself. That way if anyone ever steals my ideas, or accuses me of copyright violation, I can prove that I had the idea originally. (Yeah, somewhat paranoid, I know; but it's one reason that I don't post any of my original stuff that I plan for eventual publication on the web.)
I hope that things work out.
Later.
**Kyryn disappears**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 07:22:07 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Gra'athi? Sounds like someone is a "Wing Commander" fan.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 06:54:45 PM
IP: fltg-ppp44.fltg.net
That goddamn dirty rotten son of a bitch!
Wyrmwolf just brought something to my attention: A recent fanfic by Rodlox. Here's the disclaimer and the first couple of lines:
All the characters appearing in Gargoyles and Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles are copyright Buena Vista Television/The Walt Disney Company. No infringement of these copyrights is intended, and is not authorized by the copyright holder. All original characters are the property of RodloxAuthor's Notes: the Gra'athi are my own! {Mr Kerns was borrowing them, with my permission}. you want to use them in a story, you ask, same as anybody else.
the Needle Of Life, and various items of Gra'athi make belong to Mr Kerns. you'd have to talk to him about them.
Koz's world faded into the background. His entire being focused on the space telescope's image.
A Gra'athi fleet!
Heading Earthwards.
What a prick! I've never read this guy's stories before, never even heard of him until recently. I certainly never talked to him, and I sure as HELL never asked him for permission to borrow aliens that I created for my very first G2K story! This worthless piece of shit is lying through his teeth! He's stealing from me! He even stole Koz, for chrissake! When I get my hands on him, there WILL be bloodshed!
Here's his email address: Babnol@hotmail.com
If anybody wants to take some potshots at him, feel free. Assuming there's anything left by the time I finish with him.
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 06:43:27 PM
IP: wire-13.koalas.com
Back, two weeks done.:)
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 06:42:06 PM
IP: fltg-ppp44.fltg.net
***RESUME RP****
The Deadly Sin Sets down outside Fox studios editing department building: a convenently located abandoned industrial complex compete with forest, rockpit and abandoned warehouse, Shogun took stock of the surroundings
"well, it seems he's come prepared, Haim Saban must really know his product, I wonder what other things he ripped off?"
As if on cue, a trio of half-plan half woman creatures pop up and begin an assault, unfortunately for them, Flypside had pulled out a razor-sharp tiara and flamethrower and did some nasty senshi slash and burn
"on behalf of the pruning shears, I wil punish you!" Bellowed the gargoyle/gremlin hybrid
"Okay" noted shogun" so He's ripped off some anime as well, what will this twisted freak throw at us next? he asked as if he didn't realize that his quarry's mind consisted of predictable japanese sci-fi cliches" A collection of shadows moved all about the five mercenaries and their pets
Fenrir was the next to speak "if my knowledge of this Sentai as you call it is correct, the next thing he should be throwing at us would more than likely be some manner of nondescript semi-identical cannon fodder warriors" As if on cue, a group of ninjas dressed like mimes leaped out from behind some conveniently placed crates and surrounded them***PAUSE RP*****
welcome back all from the gathering
REVIEW OF SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER AND UNCUT, WARNING! CONTAINS SPOILERS
I was LMAO at that whole movie, they made fun of everything from Disney-type films to Anime,I really LMAO at the songs and one of the climactic scenes where Cartman goes up against Saddam Hussein, the V-chip implanted in his head begins to malfunction and instead of shocking him when he swears, he began to shock other people, what it came down to was Cartman tossing massive amounts of electricity at Hussein generated by massive amounts of cursing, the funniest thing about the scene was the way it was produced: it was like DBZ with a bad case of Tourette's syndrome, complete with the classic Anime moving background
*END SPOILERS*
my take on Austin Powers 2
I liked it, and you'd like it too, provided you liked the first one..BECASE IT'S JUST LIKE THE FIRST ONE
My $.02 on Weird Al's New Album
His new look is eerily like that of the late Tiny Tim
and as for the songs, I swear the stress of losing "the Wierd Al show" must have popped a screw loose, if you know what I mean
Gathering 2000 in Orlando: I am SO there! BTW if anyone has a copy of the "six degrees of kevin bacon" game, I need to see it in order to make a board game of six degrees of gargs.
***Resume RP***
In one swift motion, all five humanoid members whipped out particle beam rifles and mowed down the ninja mimes
Shogun began laughing uproariously, Doc Congo looked at him quizzically"I just can't help thinking, Doc, you suppose they heard that coming?" the deadly seven's five humanoids began to laugh uproriously, suddenly a figure clad in black appeared. it had a red and black face and a head crowned with big circular ears, Fenrir took a look at the figure
"let me guess, this is either the lead fighter or the easily dispatched thug of the day, but we won't know that until we fight him and finish him off"
Withouy warning, the figure ignited his double-bladed energy sword and pointed one tip at Fenrir
"Silence Canine!" he roared" pathetic creatures, you face the wrath of...Mickey Maul!"
Shogun had an epiphany
"well, that cinches it, with a stupid name like that, he must be the creep of the day"
Mickey Maul took off in the direction of the rockpit with Shogun, Fenrir, Abel,Doc Congo, and Flypside in hot pursuit
***END RP..FOR NOW****
Shogun Raptor
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 05:55:46 PM
IP: ppp-39.mia-tc-3.netrox.net
RP WARNING!!!
**Chicago, IL
Father Dowling and Sr. Steve are in an Office with Cardinal Francis George.
"We arrived as soon as Marie told us, your Eminence."
"Ahhh!!! Frank. I have some good news. I have jsut contacted the Vatican and Cardinal Maida of Detroit. It turns out that Adam needs an Auxiliary Bishop to replace Gumbleton. We have the evidence to make Tom Archbishop of Tehran. The AmChurchers wanted him promoted so I did. Too bad, his new Diocese will be under the Ayatollah's power. He'll just -love- Gumbleton's Liberal views."
The three snickered somewhat maliciously at that information.
"In addition, Sr. Steve will be transferred to a convent up in Detroit and she will serve as your personal assistant. I have something else to mention. Your Church is only five blocks form the Detroit Police Homicide Division Headquarters. Captain Czestowski will be looking forward to meeting you, Bishop Dowling."
Bishop Dowling and Sr. Steve genuflect and kiss Cardinal George's ring, and then leave for St. Michael's to pack for Detroit.
Portsmouth, Ohio
Reverend Attila is on the phone with Doug.
"Hey, Dougie!! We'll be a little late. Fr. Dowling invited us to be at his Ordiantion in Detroit. He's going to be a Bishop. OJ is on his way with Charleton Heston. They should meet up with you at Crownpoint. Meow!! Bye!!"**
END RP for now!!!
Jewel> WB. I hope you got my EM.
Skippy and Kat> Welcome
Gathering 99> I absolutely loved it. I will post something as soon as I get more on-line time. I ahev discovered an unhealthy net-addiction,a nd I realized how bad a problem I had when my mother caught me on-line at 4:30 in the morning, because of Attila's meowing. I will print up a report and post it in the CR soon enough. I am sorry that I haven' tposted earlier, but I shouldn't be on-line anyway, since I am only taking oen course and I don't have an A, though a B+ is very likely and that is a 3.5
Coyote, Starsinger, and Doug> It was great rooming with you three.
Mandi> Is Dave be your SO, or semi-SO? :)
Spike> I got a pic of Garlon and Sekhmet hugging, and I owe it all to you :)
Gunjack> I thought you'd go as Owen, if I went again as Vogel. I coudl go as Colin Marter, though I have a fedora and not a derby. I could also go as a darkhaired Wagner, but that is a rather controversial costume to say the least.
Pistoff> I suggested it to Starsinger, since we could get the number for Coos Bay's Pizza Hut and ask for a pizza to be delivered by a Fred Kerns to the Raddison Central in Dallas, though I figured your reaction would be negative, though.
Todd Jensen> At the Gathering, there was a rumor that you are Greg, but Attila disagrees, he believes you are Duvall :)
Doug> I plan to do a fanfic with Beowulf coming back, but it won't be Ares. Grendel's father will be in it, and he is more pissed off than the seat on a public toilet :)
Jen> Denied? LOL!!! I hope thsoe messages I gave to Kenna helped :) You do have a great messenger service :)
Trek Presidents> I'd have to see where they stand on the issues. Ronald Reagan and Jess Ventura won on the issues, which was helped by their screen personalities. The sam egoes to bit-part actor Fred Dalton Thompson (R-TN) and the late Sonny Bono, who would have made a great repalcement for that kook Boxer, if he didn't die. Duke Cunningham of Top Gun is a Congressman (R-CA), too. It also depends on the issues, as well as their acting ability. Hmmmmmmm.....Heston/Keating (OK) '00
Airwalker> New Orleans would be good for some Unseelies to attack with a few crooked cops on Madoc's payroll (NOPD are very crooked). I think Rome would be interesting, with the Pope meeting Madoc and being rather angry about what Madoc did to his Church from about 500-1500.
Lawrence> Interesting you mentioned Rome again. I was thinking fo a Clan there, though they would probably be a bit different from your own.
Heather> I am impressed by Enkana
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 05:19:44 PM
IP: 141.164.133.112
Mandi< *nods her head* dang strait!;D Its not good to have so meny singles walking around without their better..*Grins* or sometimes worse half:)
I also would suggest that PPL who KNOW they are going next year get together and we all make our costumes to go in garg groups! Example: 5 ppl's get together and do the pack! What great pics that would make! Or the trio! the coldstone trio, or David, Fox with alex! that would be pretty cool.
Lexy
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 04:08:43 PM
IP: spider-wl052.proxy.aol.com
All right, here comes a real post. :)
No news on the camera, although I still retain the roll of film with the photo of me with Greg and Thom... here's hoping it comes out OK. But I got my paycheck for June today, so I'm happy.
Stormy> <<I'll be incommunicado until mid-September. Don't forget me...and don't fade away. I'm looking forward to seeing you all when I come back. >> Aww, no! Mid-September?? We'll miss you... and I don't think you have to worry about being forgotten at all. **pounds on her computer** Darn it, the network won't let me into Angelfire! (I'm amazed it's never had a problem with Station 8 and Wyvernweb...) So I guess I'm not going to get to send you comments til September. Hang in there, and get back here soon.
Shatner for prez> No, no, no, no, NO! Leonard Nimoy could run for President, but for VP... maybe Brent Spiner? Spock and Data, leaders of the free world! (Or Spock and Puck, the ears match better.)
Coyote> <<Thom Adcox Hernandez meets Pontiac and Cadillac. Picture this: Pontiac and Cadillac are making a Hernandez sandwich... Cadillac's hugging his legs ... Pontiac's giving him a romantic kiss on the cheek... and Thom's face says "err, do I know you?" ;)>> LOL! You must scan that one! I'd love to see it!
G2000> Got a proposal for you all - the Committee to Get Everyone's Significant Others to G2000! We need to get Robby and Heather, Doug and Kitania, Coyote and Ravyn, Kaioto and Lexy, me and... uh... well, you get the point... down in Orlando. Even if it requires kidnapping or blackmail!
Kat> I didn't say this before, so welcome to our (in)sanity!
Doug> I checked it out... and "Earshot" had been moved. But I found the links to it anyway. Thanks a lot. (I'm downloading pt. 4 now while I work on some queries.) As for the returned heroes debate: I don't know. I desperately need to brush up on my mythology, so I can't think of anyone... and now I'm thinking about TGS stuff, so now I have to shut up. Darn.
Until later, perhaps. After I water Mom's plants, of course...
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 03:14:36 PM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
SLIGHTLY ASHAMED PLUG ALERT!
Hi folks. I'll try to make a real post later. There are several things I wanted to say, but I burned my whole lunch break FINISHING the FREELANCE STORY!!!
It's up on the fanfic page now. The title is "The Enemy of my Enemy." Please read it. I hope you enjoy it.
We now return you to your regular program, already in progress.
END PLUG
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 02:11:40 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3
Aaron: You really think planes fall down often? I think not... a plane rarely crashes more than once ;)
And what is this I hear about a charity fund for those of us who can't afford the entire ticket to get to the Gathering? Heck, where do I sign?
Oh, and the Punisher/Demona idea? It wouldn't really work. Believe me. Demona might be able to use him... for a short while, then he'd expose her real plan, try to kill her, succeed temporarily, then she'd reemerge and wipe him off the face of the earth... hmmmm... *crossover idea brewing*... nah, probably not a good idea anyway.
But guys, if you please SEND ME SOME MAIL!!! I was disconnected due to the risk of lightning all yesterday, and all I got was an advertisement for a PORN SITE! (Seems I gotta find out who the heck really knows about that old adress, which doesn't seem to want to die... uh-oh, it's DC all over.) Well, I got some e-mail cleanup to do. Until later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@geocities.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:59:24 PM
IP: mp-217-241-58.daxnet.no
Leave tonight for Dragon Con so i won't be around till Monday. hopefully i can get some new shadowrun stuff to read while i wait in the ten hour line for Anne Mccaffery.
see yall
Ironwolf
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:45:20 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-49.cha.bellsouth.net
Okay, So I'm NOT in the top twenty, and the room's NOT slow, darn you DC!
Argent
stable, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:31:14 PM
IP: dyn034-nas01.marietta.frognet.net
I'm back from Cedar Point, & somewhere in the top twenty(Looks around) Wow, the rooms slow!
Well, I hope everyone had a good time at the Gathering. Next year it's in Orlando? DANG! :(
And now:
***RETRIBUTION ON DC & SS!***
(Argent finishes writing something, speaking to Dis Connect and Sli Sludge as Jewel*D discourages them from escaping.)
"Well DC, I really don't know what you were thinking, erasing the CR or whatever you did, like that. I really can't decide whether you enjoy pain or suffer from memory loss. Pick a letter: A, B, C, or D."
"What do they stand for?"
"Fine, we'll let SS go first for giving me stomach pains the entire trip." (Looks at the aforementioned immortal.) "Pick one: A, B, C, or D."
"Uh, D."
(He suddenly finds himself on the Mantis, a stand-up coaster at Cedar Point, without a seatbelt, harness, or any form of restraint. DC gulps.)
"B-but how's he gonna keep from falling off?!"
"He doesn't. And on second thought, I'm choosing for you: E."
"What's E?!"
"A is Power Tower, which rockets you straight up, then down at the same speed. B is Raptor, an inverted looping coaster. C is Magnum, which has the tallest hill in the park,and D is Mantis. E-" (Smirks and rubs hands together)"-is all of the above."
*** >:)***
I'm off to read 'Re-Emergence'
Gotta Jet! Go Tribe!
Argent
stable, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:29:13 PM
IP: dyn034-nas01.marietta.frognet.net
Thanks, everybody, for your support and advice. It really cheered me up. :)
I've been looking for an agent for a while now, but so far none of them have responded to my queries. Looks like I'll have to start leaning on them ...
Jenniren: Co-author, eh? Actually, I've thought of that a couple of times. The big question is, would I be able to get a published author interested in a guy who toils in a minimum-wage job in a town nobody heard of before that damn boat ran up on the beach? I hope so, because I'd love a chance to work with, say, Harlan Ellison. I'd never be as good as he is, but we do have similar attitudes. ;)
Jewel: WELCOME BACK!!! Gawd, we've missed you! So, you're a politics junkie, eh? Kewlies! Are you familiar with Hunter S. Thompson? ;)
Aaron: Kidnap a publishing exec, eh? Hmmmm ... ;) Actually, if I could get my hands on some incriminating evidence ... something like a video of a happily-married editor pronging his secretary on his desk ... Ah, wishful thinking.... A collection for people who can't afford to go to the Gathering? Awwwww. I don't really like to accept donations--makes me feel helpless--but in this case I'd make an acception because I'd love to go to one of these. I wouldn't fly there, though; planes crash far too often for my taste. But now that I finally have a decent car that won't fall apart on me, I'd be willing to drive, even to Orlando. Heh, it's an '85 Ford Thunderbird with power seats, power windows, power mirrors, power locks, digital spedometer, brand new tires and new paint job, and a $400 CD player (and I got it for less than $3,000 :), and it goes from 0-60 in about four seconds. I still haven't found the top speed (and I've tried, when I was driving home from Roseberg yesterday, hehehee). All I'd need is money for gas, the motel room, and expenses ....
Well, I hope I can afford it myself, by then. If my damn novel would sell ... well, I'll keep leaning on the agents and see what happens. Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it. =)
Oh...you're thinking about dressing up as Kozlowski for the next Gathering? Oh man ... this I've GOT to see! ;)
Kyryn: Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to sell short stories for ten years, with no success. I've pretty much given up on that route. The editors tell me that what I write isn't original enough ... then I look at the latest issue of their magazine and find nothing but the same old crap that they've published before. That's another thing that makes me suspicious that they don't actually read what I send them. So, after ten years of this little dance, I'm out of it. I'll be concentrating on novels from now on.
Christine: Hostage, eh? :) Works for me. Especially since I wouldn't have to come back home and deliver any more pizzas. So ... who wants to tie me up? :o)
TRC: Thanks. The assumed-name idea is interesting, except that the editors want the author's real name on the first page, along with the address, phone number, etc. A pseudonym can be placed under the title, and that's what'll appear on the cover if it gets published, but they need the real name for their records and payment and so on.
SJ: Thanks to you as well. :) As for self-publishing, I definitely don't have the money for that. Pizza Hut pays me 15 cents more than minimum wage; I've gone almost 5 years there without a raise, and I and my boss had to fight like hell just to get this much out of the cheap bastards. I finally got the raise eight months AFTER everybody else got theirs, and I won't see a penny of the back-pay that they owe me. Meanwhile, the upper-management people who have been screwing me get paid fifty grand a year, and all they do is make decisions that complicate life for us delivery drivers (they actually decided that we're supposed to point every piece of ham toward the center of the pizza, even though it's on the bottom and is covered by other stuff and nobody ever sees it!), and then they go out and play golf.
Oh jeez, I'd better cut this off now, before I go into a ten-page rant about golf. To think they call that a sport ...
Okay, on to something else ...
Doug: Thanks for the good review, it really made me feel better. I finally managed to read part of your first fic, but it was late last night and I got too sleepy to continue. Very good so far, though I'm not a big fan of Marvel characters. I'm just not into the whole superhero-with-funny-costume thing. Though I'd like to see the Punisher interact with Demona, since they have similar mindsets (pretty much revenge-oriented). And the Punisher isn't a superhero, he's just a guy with a lot of guns and a bullet-proof vest. Anyway, good stuff so far, and I'll email a more detailed feedback when I finish reading the story later today.
Coyote: Well, thanks. **takes doll, looks thoughtful** I'll think up something appropriate. ;) As for rejection notes, I know how you feel. I once got one that looked like the receipt you'd get at a grocery store. O_o
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:05:28 PM
IP: 207.48.109.41
Forgot my name.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:01:14 PM
IP: 98caa5c8.ipt.aol.com
Kyryn > Thankie. ^_^
Coyote B. > Actually to add more to my idea of a Rocky Mountains clan I thought the origins of the clan would be from England. You know when the British were coming to the new world. So I thought a group of gargoyles would go to the new world and settle in the Rockys. And over time and evolution they would look like North American animals, ex : Peregrine Falcon...Cougar.
Durid > **hugs tightly** Finally ! An AniFreak like me!
Doug > Sure you can. I can give you a list of names I already picked out for the 'main characters' of the Rocky M. clan and what animal they look like.
Anonymous - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 01:00:52 PM
IP: 98caa5c8.ipt.aol.com
***MINOR SPOILER***
I just went back to my archives of Timedancer eps and read in For Old Times Sake... "Brooklyn tried to avoid the man's piercing ice-blue eyes"... so there it is. I bet a butt load that this mysterious Oro is indeed Harthoth!
***END SPOILER***
Skippy> Welcome to our happy home. It's nice to have another Texan in the clan.
Gunjack> If anything goes wrong on your busride, you have my permission to blame it on me. I forgot to mention that I wrote a morbid little tune about how to kill myself to make the pain go faster. It was better than letting the four hour heat get to me. But don't worry, I'm not suicidal! Actually, I thought it was pretty damn funny at the time :)
Wilek> Yes, it was rather depressing. But at least I knew I was being thought of by wonderful friends :)
I plan to laugh my ass off at South Park tonight. I still remember the first time I saw it on TV. How could I forget? I had to clean up the drink my brother spewed all over the carpet...later!
SOROW
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:11:39 PM
IP: usr12-dialup4.mix1.irving.cw.net
Jen > DENIED? Uh-huh ... your leg is slipping ...
Coyote > Send it right along! The more info, the better! And thanks again for the great window decal thingies!
Housewarming party > Saturday, July 17th, in Everett WA (1/2 hour north of Seattle). Any who can make it are gleefully invited to attend!
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 11:26:09 AM
IP: 02-106.009.popsite.net
**sticks her head back in** Gah, I'm an idiot!
JEWEL'S BACK! We missed you!
Can you all tell I'm just counting the minutes till break? :)
Mandi Ohlin
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:40:48 AM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
**Not patient enough to wait til lunch break, Mandi takes a chance and sticks her head in the comment room.**
Doug> I read your post about resurrected heroes ... was going to comment tonight, but with Chris (the stepdad) leaving for Ohio to meet Mom, I spent the evening reassuring Mom over the phone that yes, I would water her plants, no, they wouldn't die, yes, I can do laundry by now, etc. etc. etc. Parents. :)
Gunjack, Heather, Robby> That would be great! Hmm... maybe I *should* lean on Dave about Orlando... heck, all he'd have to do is get a jacket that matches and find a big walking stick... :)
Ack! Joe's coming. (Not that he really cares, but...) Bye!
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:38:04 AM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
***Kyryn appears***
Welcome to Skippy and Kat!
Hiyas to those who have come back!
Kat> Oro is actually the Spanish word for gold.
Heather> Kewl pic!
Later all!
***Kyryn disappears***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:20:31 AM
IP: 168.37.239.86
I just read Re-emergence part 1
James Birdsong
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:13:10 AM
IP: dt045nd6.san.rr.com
Possible spoilers for Re-Emergence part 1
Oro translates as Gold, in something Spanish-like,
IIRC. Hence the Guatamalean with the gold coloration.
And, I suspect, a greedy disposition
Fred Garber - [fgarber@kent.edu]
Kent, Ohio, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:58:45 AM
IP: smtp06e.kent.edu
Possible spoilers for Re-Emergence part 1
Oro translates as Gold, in something Spanish-like,
IIRC. Hence the Guatamalean with the gold coloration.
And, I suspect, a greedy disposition
Fred Garber - [fgarber@kent.edu]
Kent, Ohio, USA
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 09:58:30 AM
IP: smtp06e.kent.edu
*** Possible Spoilers for Re-Emergence Part 1 ***
Hmm, Oro, where did I hear that word before?
<Searching Memory Banks>
1 Match found
Planet = Earth
Alternate Universe = Shadowrun
Year = 2060
Oro Corporation: The legitimate front of a drug cartel in the early 21st century, the Oro Corporation was recognised for its brutal business practices. Due to its massive cash reserve, was able to buy the Mexican government as a subsidiary, renaming it Aztlan. Oro is now known as Aztechnology. Rumored to have connections with blood magic and human sacrifices. Aztechnology is commonly viewed as a bad guy in the Shadowrun universe, even more so than the other megacorps.
Translation of word "Oro" to English = *?%*%Corrupted data&*&%&?&*... Transmission lost... Thank you for using BrainOS 4.03
<End Search>
Anyway, this makes me suspect that Oro is a bad guy. That and he's obviously lying about his connection to the Guatemalan clan (hey, maybe he's an outcast from the clan and wants to get back at them some way or another).
*** End possible spoilers ***
DarkAngel
CanadaWednesday, June 30, 1999 09:40:30 AM
IP: gatekeeper.acdi-cida.gc.ca
Oops. I forgot to put the Name. You should know who I am, but I don't wish to be classified as Anonymous. There!
"I see only despair..."-Ghaleon
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 08:24:37 AM
IP: 28.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
Comment Room Crash-I checked the post-crash Comment Room. I already accessed that one.
I didn't post yesterday because I was finishing LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE.
Jewel and the 'Athenaverse'-You and Iskow can expect some commentary on your latest works sometime. Aris, you review Iskow's Fanfiction, eh? I'll have to check out those reviews, because there are numerous opinions I feel are lacking, and a lot of compliments for ANAGNORISIS, and this new one. All I'll say now, to Scott, is it flows fine with GARGOYLES, and with the Athenaverse. ANAGNORISIS had some awesome lines, and so did the latest, I'll get back to that when I'm in the mood, I have plenty of other stories, and Iskow should know I fade in, and fade out, of the Athenaverse Stories commonly.
Doug and Kitania-I hope you meant there were no posts after my post on Saturday before the crash. That line to the Ghaleon in the Comment Room had me cracking up. I finished the Game yesterday. Excellent. XENOGEARS still wins, but the Working Designs Slogan "Our Games go to 11!" is an understatement for LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE. As for said Game, I really hope you've talked to everyone everytime there's a major event in all places, and have talked to each person until they repeat themselves. If so, you should understand Ghaleon is not a villian. The Game says that so many times. When you toured Burg I hope you took him to Dyne's Monument. After the Final Battle, talk to everyone. Make sure you talk to everyone, the characters defend Ghaleon. Approach Ghaleon's body, and talk. Believe me, he is no villian. The original LUNAR Game came out in 1,992, I believe, it was begun, I believe, in 1,990. The remake was begun sometime after LUNAR II: ETERNAL BLUE, which doesn't need much of a remake, as its already great. They'll have to change some of the scenes because a lot was added to the first Game, but that's about it. Its remake should be out sometime this Year, I believe.
Anyways, Ghaleon is doing what he's doing, and this was stated, I believe, or hinted at, by Laike/Dyne before ascending to the Fortress of Althena, for a specific reason. The lightbulbs at the entrance to the Fortress of Althena have one section where they explain, too. The rest is to be explained, although I think its obvious.
That'll take this discussion out of the Comment Room, though, as this isn't the place to get into a lengthy discussion about some other character, so when you've finished the Game, please Send me Electronic Mail with Commentary, or Comment here, or whatever. I'll still be responding with Electronic Mail in-depth, although I might mention some aspects here.
Oh, and do you mean you like the Goddess Althena before she became Luna, or Luna, more exactly? They're one and the same, but there's a big difference in how you're referring to them, quite possibly. Please clarify.
Back to Ghaleon for a moment. The laugh has to do with the voice, although I think I remember you mentioning it as an 'evil laugh'. Its actually a mocking laugh. Again, Ghaleon is not evil.
For the recommendation, you're welcome.
Enjoy the Finale!
If you like the Game so much, you could write Fanfiction. Don't go looking for a place to Send it, though, unless you want Spoilers for the second Game's original version, which, again, shouldn't be much of a change. The descriptions of various Fanfiction give away much.
Jewel, Again-Why exactly have Christine and the others not informed the Manhattan Clan about what's going on!? They could at least probably get through to Titania.
"I see only despair..."-Ghaleon
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Anonymous
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 08:20:02 AM
IP: 28.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
*Xanathar walks into the CR looking decidedly pleased with himself*
Hi everyone what a totally kick ass day I've had,I went shopping with my sister after I finished work and bagged myself a copy of Total Annihilation Kingdoms for my PC(Kingdoms is a fantasy style real time strategy game that reminds me of Warcraft2 only with better graphics and better interface)anyway a while after that my sis and I went into a nearby Toys"R"Us to see what they had in there(and don't say toys!;)),we were checking out the Spawn stuff when we noticed a couple of Kenner Gargoyles action figures,WooHooo!!I walked out of there with the Xanatos in exo armor figure and the Rippin'Rider cycle(ugh! the marketing boys must have spent all of five minutes thinking that name up.)
SJ:Did someone mention my favorite Aussie of all time, Steve Irwin (sp?)?? This guy is both a god and a certifiable nutjob.>>Well your right about the "nutjob" part no F@%#%$@!! way I'd be getting in the water with salt water Croc's!
Kat and Skippy the Klingon:Welcome to the city of lost sanity:)
Keep those Gathering diaries comming,it's apreiciated:)
Welcome back JEWEL!! oh and Stormy see you when you come back,I know how you feel,my father was in the Air force,every time he'd get posted we'd have to pack up and leave,I've lived in Adelaide,Darwin,Perth,and now Melbourne.
Goodnight all!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 07:01:44 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
Guesses at Madoc’s 22 locations
Well, technically we know the first 11, so it’s only guesses at the last 11 locations he ordered attacked.
(Can’t count the Mutates or the clones since Madoc thought they were done away with when Unseelie War 2 started. He ordered them attacked later when he found out Umbriel didn’t kill them. Avalon, his ultimate and obvious target can’t be counted either.)
1. Manhattan
2. London
3. Caledonia
4. New Olympus
5. Guatemala
6. Australia
7. Africa
8. Ishimura
9. Queen Florence Island
10. Prague
11. Arizona.
Goliath did say that half of the places that were targeted were places they visited. Also as for clans, there would only have to be 3 more. Greg said that by 1996 there would be 12 (This was announced early enough that the TGS Staff might be following it) and we have 6 clans listed in the first 11 targets so why only have 3 more? We have to count the Mutates and the clones as 2 seperate clans and we shouldn’t forget to count the Avalon Clan so that only leaves 3 more clans left.
12. Ireland (Danu said she liked the place and if Banshee was looking for her, what better place to start than the Island that she is most closely associated with? The motive for Madoc to attack her is obvious.)
13. Nepal (The Sanctaury of Melchinor, Li, and Darice. It’s also possible that there is a clan in the area since the Himalaya’s are a very isolated area, thus perfect to preserve a Gargoyle clan.)
14. Egypt (Meyrt/ Possibly Harthoth and Isfet. Apep is a dragon and Madoc’s father was killed in the Dragon war and whatever you can say about him, he must have at the very least have cared about his father. So he would probably want to deal with Dragons and any who serve them.)
15. Greece (There are just too many legends and fey connections to this area to pass it up. Also, Prometheus and Pandora come to mind.)
16. Antarctica (It was brought up by Greg and while TGS isn’t bound to all his later revelations, now is still the best time to insert it. It’s also an isolated area which would be great for a Gargoyle clan.)
17. Romania (That is where Translyvania is, isn’t it? If Dracula is still around, it would be a good idea to eliminate him rather than deal with him later from Madoc’s point of view.)
18. Israel (Why here? Well, the Second Unseelie War was Ragnarok wasn’t it? I mean there was the Fimbulwinter and any major war among the “gods” after that is Ragnarok. But let’s not forget that at the end of the world there is supposed to be a huge battle at a small mountain in the Galilee called Meggido. There the northern armies of Gog, and Magog (the bad guys) are supposed to attack the armies of good. Currently Russia and Eastern Europe are identified as Gog and Magog but it can easily be shifted a bit west to represent the Unseelie based in northern Germany and Scandinavia. Anyway, the hebrew word for mountain is HAR.
So Megiddo is in hebrew - Har Megiddo. This has been corrupted over the centuries and is much more familiarly known as ARMAGGEDON.)
19. Indonesia (It a large chain of islands, with many of them being unexplored. The perfect place for a Gargoyle clan.)
20. Wales/England/ Hell, Britian in general (While we listed London for it’s clan, lets not forget that Nimue and Morgana are somewhere at large in the countryside and it would be a good bet that Madoc would go after them while also attacking the London clan.)
21. New Orleans (Lapin lived there and his daughter (or niece, or whatever, you know the halfling singer) might still be alive and living there.
22. ? (I'm not sure what to guess for this one. By my own logic, there can't be another Gargoyle clan out there because I've accounted for the 12 existing ones in the previous guesses. It can't be Easter Island because otherwise Goliath would have said that over half of the places on the list were places they visited but he only said that half (he was specific about that) were places they had visited on the World Tour. And we have accounted for the 11 known places. This last one could be South America, China, or Africa but without more clues, it's impossible to say.)
Suggestion - Instead of calling this New World Tour just World Tour number 2, I suggest perhaps refering to it as the AFTERMATH QUEST might be a good idea. The name says it all and it's a good way to illustrate how it is different from Goliath's quest.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 07:01:38 AM
IP: 123.new-york-75-80rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
OK ppl's I posted a big ol' gathering post in the S8 comment room. HAVE FUN. *glides out to pack:P*
Lexy
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 04:30:09 AM
IP: spider-tp053.proxy.aol.com
Valentine enters, and immediatly heads for a cluttered desk in one corner. He grabs a black office chair, props his feet up on the desk, and kicks back to celtic music and a flask of cyliborne ale*
Life... Life’s a funny thing... You’re here one day, and *phshht*... gone the next... And now, it’s my turn. At aproximately 8:30 AM today, I will board a bus that will seperate me from this wonderous trove of imagination for more than a month...
*Shakes himself out of philosophical mood*
Ouch. Just goes to show what happens when you spend too much time isolated from human contact... The short version is that I’m gonna spend the next three weeks at a camp in upstate New York w/ my older brother. He’s just gotten back from Scotland (Gee, how many other gargoyles-related places can we mention?), and wanted me to hang out w/ him while he’s counciling. I’m just hoping that you guys will still be here when I get back. The only downside, other than being cut off from all fandom for a month, is that I’ve already picked up a bug due to lack of sleep, and I’m not likely to get much rest at camp, so I’m probably going to spend that month in various degrees of illness. Mmmm, fun!
Now, on to the replies...
*Eyes flicker, data is absorbed*
SOROW><<Now I get to tell the tragic tale of why I hate buses! We left from A&M at 1:30 pm on Sunday and didn't get home until midnight! Why you ask? Our freakin' bus broke down! It was like something you see in the movies! We had only been driving for thirty minutes when the new radiator blew. 100 degrees outside and no air conditioner...>> please, Please, PLEASE do not tell me these stories five hours before I start a sixty hour greyhound ride...:p
Wilek><<>> It *must* have been a rough weekend if your *hair* is bloodshot.>> actually, I DID end up headbutting a concrette wall while chatting w/ Andy Morrison at mickey dee’s... Not to mention the yellow stuff I’ve been coughing up for the last week... Just wait until I get back; they’ll have to carry me in a bucket.:P
PS - Sorry to hear about that, dude. I’m working on my own stuff, and I’d be pretty hacked if some pencil-pusher type trashed ten years of my work...
Mandi><<Is there anyone out there who might be able to go to G2000 that's interested in going as a Pendragon character? >> I was planning on going as either Valentine or Owen, but King Arthur sounds awfully tempting...
Stormy><<Everyone else is coming home and I'm just leaving... I'll be spending the next two months posted to Forces Base Trenton, and since the place has all the charm of a P.O.W. camp (read--if you don't even get a phone, internet access is too much to ask) SO...I'll be incommunicado until mid-September.>> You too, eh? Sheesh.
Doug><<I think this definitely might have happened if the Gargoyles story had been allowed to continue, and wonder what the rest of you in here think about it. Also, if you know of any heroes who might make good candidates for return, please tell me about them.>> I don’t know about crossovers to Disney’s animated flicks, as there’s a serious clash in genres there, but here’s my to bits on resurected heroes: Sigfried. Great peace of legend there, and he already has tie-ins to the norse gods... However, he’s one of those guys that needs to be in his original form all the time, and he’d still only be a quasi-hero. The fates ended up really hitting him hard, so he might be just a teensie bit Demonaish.
*Valentine does a double take, and then prostrates himself and begins banging his head on the floor*
WHOOOHOOO! Jewel Faulkner is here?!? Madam, I love everything you write. When I was cut off from the fanfic archive for a year, your complete saga was one of the three I downloaded to hold me over. It’s an honor!
Sheesh, I’ll bet you don’t get that kind of greeting every day, do you? I’ve read everything up to the continuation of Stout’s “Stitch in time”, And I plan on catching up as soon as I get done w/ the TGS archive. Keep ‘em coming! BTW, have you heard from Ryan about when the next fic’ll be out?
Jewel Faulkner><<The job offer I spoke of before is only partial: it can't be "offical" until I've undergone a background check. I'd be doing computer tech support for the Customs department,>> Ooh, the possibilities... <<so I have to have a background check--they're actually sending out FBI to talk to my friends. Oog.>> Believe it or not, my uncle does those...
Christine><<I still can't believe you're 17>> No problemo. You have no idea what it does for one’s self esteem to be mistakin for someone eight years older... at least when you’re my age.:) <<thanks for being in the game! Sorry the 3rd session was cancelled; I was in no shape to even think straight let alone try to run.>> The third session was canceled? That makes me feel a lot better... I thought I missed it! <<I had lots of fun while it was happening, though, and it was great the way those iron-shod hooves made such short work of that toadie ; )>> Heh... If only you’d seen Iskander...
Loved Becca, and that kid in the Goliath suit. Can’t wait till next year!
*Valentine does a quadrupal-take*
SKIPPY?!?!?! that’s it, I’ve seen it all. I can die in piece. In case you’re wondering, I was the suit that was having a deep discussion on reality travel w/ a “Dr Who” addict. Good ta see ya, man!
Skippy><<I hate to say it, but your gonna have a Klingon running around here from now on!>> Heh. Hey, Buddy, you need to check out a quickiefic in one of the more recent AvMists... it’s one of the “Party on Avalon” ones, and the title has “Points” in it... As soon as I say you, it reminded me of that. read it and see why...
Seriously, though, glad to see ya. wish I wasn’t walking out the door right know...:(
*Valentine checks his watch, and listens to his earpiece*
Well, folks, it's WAY past my bedtime, and my dad is griping at me again to get to bed. Something about breaking my health if I keep staying up this late...
Anyway, it's time to go. I hereby leave my brain to Skippy, my eternal "aye" vote to Toku, and my Rayiker M117 automatic cannon to whoever puts it to good use. C ya!
*A voice comes from the CR speakers. "Oh, and by the way, If you have anything terribly important to say to Valentine, I suggest you say it now" With a jerk like a marionette as it's strings are cut, Valentine collapses to the floor, dead.
"Too late..."
*********END TRANSMISSION***************
Gunjack Valentine
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 03:28:01 AM
IP: spider-th024.proxy.aol.com
**enters the room, switching the candles out before sitting down in the big chair**
Okay, I think I'm starting to come down from my Gathering high. A ten hour day at work that convinces you that while you were gone the world's collective IQ level dropped 70 points will do that to ya. ;)
However, I've still got it fresh enough in my mind that I just sketched up two silly little pictures ... which I might scan later ... that I call "G:CM Comes to Dallas: A Two Part Study in the Theater of the Absurd." (okay, maybe without the TotA part. ;) Anyway, pic #1 is Greg meeting Liberty ... big fun. The more fun one is pic #2 ...
... Thom Adcox Hernandez meets Pontiac and Cadillac. Picture this: Pontiac and Cadillac are making a Hernandez sandwich ... Cadillac's hugging his legs ... Pontiac's giving him a romantic kiss on the cheek ... and Thom's face says "err, do I know you?" ;)
**composes self from overwhelming silliness**
Whew, that feels better. Let's reply while we're feelin' good. :)
Stephen: I read your Gathering summary ... very thorough. Good work, and I can't *wait* for those pictures!
Gathering 2000 fund: Add Deuce to that list of folks you guys wanna pool together to get to Orlando, I hope. (Don't know if you did, I only saw JackaL and Aris, and TRC's request)
Newbies and lurkers coming into the light: Welcome. Especially to you, Skippy the Klingon. **performs Klingon salute**
Pissy: Here. **pulls out a small doll** This is my @$$hole editor effigy. Feel free to fold, spindle, mutilate, torture, sodomize, etc. this thing if you need to.
Seriously, though, I can relate, dude. Why d'you think I've been putting up my own pages to showcase my works? Because I keep getting told that my work is crap by most professionals I come across. Last time I submitted a story, it was a little humorous technopunk parody titled "On Gossamer Wings" to the Magazine of Science Fiction and Fantasy. They didn't even send me *a whole sheet of paper* to reject it ... it looked more like a flyer ya find pinned under yer windshield wiper. Grr ... I guess they figured I was such a crappy writer I didn't even merit a full 8 1/2 x 11 inch sheet of paper to Xerox the form rejection on. :P
Mandi: By all means, but you both deserve equal credit ... your mother for the preparation and you for the execution. :)
Incidentally ... I was *wondering* where the Pixy Stix were spontaneously appearing from! :)
Stormy: **backs into a corner** DON'T RUSH ME!!!
**composes self**
Sorry. Hmm, I should have it complete by the time you get back ... incidentally, I'm now shooting for July 10th for "Team Alpha."
Jewel: AAH! Welcome back!!
Aaron: Aaah, damn, I knew I forgot something!!! I hope someone managed to get a picture of that tat!
G"X"B: Your costume rocked, too. Very nice Madoc. :)
Christine: Ach, remind me to send ye some more details for the fic I commissioned. As I start thinking clearer, more and more comes to my mind ... you're probably going to need a lot of what I'll be sending your way.
Heather: What laughter? I like it! (Hmm ... looks to me like kind of a distant relative to the English clan. Griff's seventeenth cousin, four times removed, maybe? (j/k) ;)
Robby, re: next year's costumes: You already know, but since ya brought it up, I oughtta state it in public and commit myself right now.
If forces align themselves correctly ... if Ravyn makes it and I can talk her into it ... we'll be coming to the Masquerade as Rosanna and Tommy Walker. :)
(alternate plan if she won't be Rosanna: Pontiac and Lexington. :)
Doug: You were a cool person, too, y'know. :)
**sits back in the big chair, fixating on the candle once more.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:42:50 AM
IP: 207.91.254.37
Sorry for the 2X post, but...I just got done sniffing around in the site that TRC's very Griffish pic is from. That particular familiar gargoyle is all over the place; have a look at the image archive at my name link (just hit the button without typing anything in the text box). Not only is he conspicuous by his near-constant presence, but by the absence of a single mention of him (that I can find, anyhow; admittedly I didn't root around in the site very much). Hm.
Wilek again
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:42:32 AM
IP: tnt-1-137-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
**RP!**
[The enemy World Devastator appears in Crown Point, and the forces of the Avatar Of Ganon descend upon it. Starships, fighters, droids, and who knows what else fire every weapon at their disposal at the hulking machine, including the Avatar itself and its attendant starships in orbit. Wilek: "I thought we had a Devastator of our own!" Rho: "Not exactly. It's unarmed, and it isn't upgraded with Borg and Phalanx technology like this one appears to be. We mostly use it to chew up asteroids to manufacture our machinery; it'd be useless here. There's a very good reason most of our forces are droids." Wilek: "Great. In any case, we have to take that thing down. I read somewhere that Devastators have a weak link of some kind, a sensor antenna or something toward the front?" Rho: "Not this one; the Borg and the Phalanx took care of that. We *think*, anyhow; readings on this thing aren't too clear; apparently the cloak wasn't shut down properly. In any case, if things go too far wrong, there are several cloaked Dislumini Warbirds in orbit; if we fail, they're sure to succeed."]
**PAUSE RP!**
Pistoff> Ack, I don't blame you for being rather irate; I know I would be in your position. Maybe you should get an agent; very few publishing houses accept unagented mansuscripts. Or so I've heard; I don't know much about this kind of thing, so I may be wrong about this.
Stormy> Until September?! Ack. Bye, and I hope you survive whatever it is you're being transferred to. :)
Doug> <<Also, if you know of any heroes who might make good candidates for return, please tell me about them.>> Um...sorry, I know more about mythological villains than heroes. :) <<I'll be getting a new computer from Dell on Thursday. Dad got me a belated birthday gift. It's a Pentium 550 with over 200K RAM, 16 gig memory>> <stares for several minutes in stunned silence> Dude...for perhaps the first time in my existence, I am truly speechless.
Jewel> <hugz> WHERE IN THE NAME OF ALL HAVOC HAVE YOU BEEN, WOMAN?! <G> <<I got a Linux box and am really exciting--yes, folks, I am turning into a computer geek!>> [Wilek's eyes glaze over as Borg-like implants appear on his skin.] Join us...join uuuussssss......<returns to normal> Okaaay....
Shatner for president> Eh...I have nothing against him, but I think he's all wrong for politics...
Heather> An Animorphs Playstation game, eh? Sounds fascinating; I'll have to check it out. :) Oh, and great pic!
David G.> <<Covens of witches or mages. A group of halflings or just mortal sorcerers might be important enough to merit Madoc's attention.>> I think every Vampire: The Masquerade fan in here thought of Clan Tremere just then...
Skippy the Klingon> Q'apla (sp?)! I would ask you to allow Deuce to confiscate your sanity, but anyone who comes from a culture that uses painstakes in religious ceremonies can't be all that sane to begin with. ;P j/k Oh, and that site is *hilarious*.
TRC> $<<Can you fill me in on what happened in the RP after Greg told Sj his old man was in Egypt ? PLease>> Err...I'm not sure exactly. Agent Rho said he knew that Greg was there--something about Greg having an *understanding* with the organization--and then me, Miriam, Argent, Jewel*D, SJ, Kari, and the Hounds decided to return to Crown Point. I *think*; the CR in which all this happened has been nuked, I'm afraid.$ Oh, and *intensely* kewl pic. :)
Kat> Welcome! If you've been lurking here for long, you don't have much sanity left to confiscate. ;P
**RESUME RP!**
[On the Ice Dagger, Djedi Khenmuur and Vashti Toliana stare in horror at the newly-decloaked World Devastator. Vashti: "No way. We're no match for *that*." Khenmuur: "There has to be *something* we can do! Avatar, this is the Ice Dagger. You're probably already aware of this, but there's a stinking WORLD DEVASTATOR on our screens, and we are *clearly* outgunned. Please advise." Khesaat: "Djedi? You're down there?! Get out of there; you'll be killed!" Vashti: "You heard the man, get our butts back to the station!" Djedi: "Alright...but I still think we could have helped here." With that, Djedi angles the starship back to the Avatar Of Ganon.
Meanwhile, in Dark Eternal's quarters...DE: "Lord Jashin, grave news. The enemy apparently has a World Devastator at their disposal." Darth Jashin: "A World Devastator? I thought the last of those were destroyed by the New Republic." DE: "Apparently not." Jashin: "If the station is directly endangered, you are to return here. I can't afford to lose you." DE: "Of course."]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:14:29 AM
IP: tnt-3-98-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Durid walks into the CR wearing a G'99 T-shirt and a pixie on his sholder. "Well, that was an interesting experiance! Even made a friend while I was there, hope Alamo doesn't mind her coming with me for awhile."
Scanning over the CR-
Robby- Shatner as president? Whoa, now I see why people wouldn't believe that Regan actually could be a preisdent.
Stephen- Hope you enjoy that Bronx, now if only I could find Scott, his e-mail isn't working anymore!
SCOTT E JOHNSON- Please contact me!
Tim Phipps- Don't be too amazed, I got one of those CDs for 100 as well. Be amazed at those who bought one for 200 :). I may not have actually got anything from the auction itself, but I did get alot of money for it. Sorry about bidding agnist you like that. See you in Orlando! (I hope)
Heather- Says on this flyer I got that it will be June 23-25, though that may change in the next year. Do they have the website for G2K up?
Skippy the Klingon- I remember you. You got a chainmail neckpiece from Elrod, correct? It looked good on your costume.
Heather- Hey hey, I have. *shrug* Started reading the series shortly after Gargs, and just kept on reading them as they came out.
Blessed Be Y'all! *blinks in confusion and lookes at the pixie* Great, now your giveing me another accent I have to worry about!
Durid - [durid@uswest.net]
MN, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:55:15 PM
IP: dialupd222.mpls.uswest.net
**RP HERE**
Thailog has just arrived back at his secret base and gotten the bad guy leaders together for yet another meeting. "So how was that delightful party you went to, boss?" Guod asks. "Horrible," Thailog snarls in reply. "When I take over the world, Jim Iza Noying and the giant butterfly Bob will be among the first to be executed." "Sorry it didn't go well," says Kharsus. "But we did have some good news while you were gone. Both Guod and the Phalanx are ready for our plan. We can begin working at any moment." "Excellent," Thailog chuckles, lacing his fingers a la Mr. Burns. "Set the deadline for July 4, a fitting date to destroy the world's independence. On that day, we shall reveal ourselves to the world and begin assimilating it." The rest of the leaders nod in agreement and begin letting off maniacal chuckles of glee.
Meanwhile, back in Crown Point, Doug is standing at the top of the town hall's bell tower and scanning the horizon with a pair of binoculars. "They've got to be around here somewhere," he tells himself. "Come on, Agent Rho. Use your sensors and track them down." He pauses in his search to make a CR post.
**END RP 1ST HALF**
Hi everyone. As I promised earlier, I'm making a longer post now. :) First of all, I'd like to thank everyone once again for the great time I had at the Gathering. My roomies were cool people, the costume contest was excellent (Mywr's antics were hilarious and Graeme, Becca, Crzy, and Lexy's costumes were especially neat), and even though I didn't get to participate in the panels much I still got some good advice out of them. :) I picked up some merchandise from the dealer's room and am very happy with it despite the cost. It was also good to see old friends again and make new ones, like Andy Morrison, Tim Morgan, Steve Jackson, Pat Elrod, and Thom. I also liked seeing so many of the people from the CR in the flesh. Hope to see you all again next year! (And of course bring Kitainia along.)
Fanfic Progress: The Gathering cured my writer's block just like I thought it would. Hoo Raa!! :) So Goblins is proceeding well. Right now I'm up to the second day of Goblin attacks, when the good guys will first begin to try stopping them. Hope they succeed. :) BTW, if anyone is wondering what characters will drive this story, I plan to develop all of them but especially concentrate on David, Goliath, and Alex.
In other news, I'll be getting a new computer from Dell on Thursday. Dad got me a belated birthday gift. It's a Pentium 550 with over 200K RAM, 16 gig memory, and all sorts of nifty cool stuff. I don't think I'll need to worry about system upgrades for a while. <grin> The switch between machines may delay the posting of Goblins a while, but that will be alright. I hope to post it in the middle of July and then get to work on "Voyage," my long-promised Party on Avalon fic.
Mandi: Enjoyed seeing you again at the Gathering, you and Coyote looked great as Rosanna and Rain. Sorry about your camera, hope you can eventually get it back. Click my name if you want to watch the Buffy Earshot episode. Just remember to open it in Microsoft IE. Hope you enjoy!
Paul: My opinions of Lunar? Well, Kit and I've been playing it for a while now. We're up to the final dungeon. And we have to give this game ten/ten stars. :) It is truly a masterpiece. Great plot, animation, storyline, and characters. My favorites among the characters are Althena (a very cool goddess, especially after you find out how she became human to help the world stand on its own); Jessica and Kyle (their characters are very well-developed throughout the plot, and I enjoy watching them fight a lot); and Nall (his cat..er, dragon humor is great!). There's also a lot of great and hilarious dialogue that shows well how the characters develop throughout the plot. Ghaelon, Royce, and Xenobia make good villains, too. Especially Ghaelon, whose fall from grace is well-developed. There's also a scene where he outdoes FF3's Kefka on the evil laugh. So all in all, this is one excellent game. I'm glad we got it. Thanks for the recommendation, man.
CR Problems: Sorry it went down, glad it's back up. I'm not going to worry and speculate about the cause (though I think it is quite unfair of some people to just go blaming it on the RP).
Kaioto: Like Kit said earlier, you're one lucky guy to have a girlfriend as congenial and beautiful as Lexy. :) She's lucky to have you, too. Hope you enjoy your time together in Wisconsin when it comes, she can tell you all about the Gathering. :)
JFK's Death: I'm pretty sure there was a second gunman myself. Don't know who it was except in my fanfic universe. And since the issue is long over, I'm not going to bother speculating. :)
BTW, I saw a building in Dallas that looked just like Ewing Oil. Wonder if I should have gone in and said hi to Cliff, Bobby, and JR.
**SPOILERS FOR RE-EMERGENCE**
I thought this was a very refreshing change of pace from past episodes. It showed the bad guys as well as the good ones and started some conflict going again after the Unseelie War. It's good that the clan is going out to check on all the places Madoc attacked. Hope most of them are as okay as Guatemala was or better. Good plot in this one, and development on Demona, Angela, Brooklyn, Goliath, Xanatos, and Zaphiro. Obsidiana's death brought me close to tears, but suprisingly her ressurection bothered me a lot instead of making me happy. Maybe it was the easy comeback nature of it, the concrete coma and all. <shrugs> I guess I just need a little time to get used to and accept what happened with her.
Oro is an interesting new character. I wonder about his true identity and motivations, though. Reasons have already been stated. He probably can't be Harthoth, Harthoth's a sorcerer and could just turn human to go into the museums by day if he wanted the sun amulet. I guess we'll find out who he is next episode, and his connection to the Pack and Thailog (who I have a feeling is VERY much involved in this current plot, heheh).
Anyway, good job on this one. I give it an 8.5/10, thumbs up. Hope we get more episodes in the rest of this season like it, including some Pendragon ones.
**RE-EMERGENCE SPOILERS END**
Valentine: Hope you can come to the next Gathering, I enjoyed seeing you at this year's. Kit and I plan to keep the rain check we took on that GURPS date if we come (hope we get time in Orlando). :)
Lost Clans: I think that most of the ideas that have already been posted in here sound good. The Indonesian, Hawaiian, and Rocky Mountain clans sound especially interesting. Hope no one minds if I incorporate them into my fics later (I already had plans for Antarctic, Scandinavian, and Outer Mongolia clans). The Rocky Mountain one could look like Native American spirit animals, the Indonesian one like Hindu "demons," and the Hawaiian ones like fish (they could double as a sea clan, and maybe their leader can catch spears like that famous Hawaiian king Kamayomayo could).
Heather: Good idea for the Rocky Mountain clan and Ekanga. I will of course give you credit for them if you give me permission to use them later in my ficverse. May I please? :)
SOROW: Congrats on surviving your A&M training, and winning those awards.
Pistoff: Sorry to hear about what happened with your novel. The publishing industry really needs to buy a clue, doesn't it? Let me know when it happens and I might write a few novels myself. <grin>
**SPOILERS FOR TRUCE**
This story was a very good one, it had a great plot that resolved a lot of threads from the original series and G2K as well. The plot was very well-written and -outlined and all the characters got developed well. I especially liked what was done with Demona, Koz, Japhia, Elisa, Lex, Brooklyn, Iris (beautiful love scenes between those last two, by the way), the Dude, and Jon Canmore. The good guys' reconciliations with one another were all done well, and I hope they have fewer problems in the future. It was good to see a lot of TGS characters in the series, too. Wonder if Richard's brother will show up. :)
The violence and sex scenes fit well with the plot, and thus were not gratuituous or unnecessary. Good job on that, Pistoff and Wyrmwolf. I liked seeing more development on the bad guys, I am very worried about what Thailog and Jacqueline are up to. Connor and Wanda make good sinister villains as well, wonder when they and that Unseelie in charge of their cult are going to make their move. I'm also concerned about the gang wars breaking out in Los Angeles (maybe the clan will go help stop them) and when Elisa will convince Goliath to take the serum (hope it happens soon, I hate seeing her depressed). The Sword of God development was also good, their leader is a very mysterious fellow whose identity I am wondering about. That blonde Commander woman is also a cool bad guy who shares a lot of eerie similarities to the woman I plan to have lead the Sword of God organization when it appears in my fics (though Dana will lack the Kernov implants, she has the same physical description, general personality, and fighting skill). Great minds thinking alike, I guess. :)
Story gets 10/10 stars, thumbs skyrocketing. Great job, Pistoff and Denis! Keep it up!!! <grin>
**TRUCE SPOILERS END**
Stormy: Will miss you while you're away. Hope you get back soon.
Jewel: Welcome back to the CR, hope you'll have more time to hang out here now.
Returned Heroes: I'm a little disappointed only one person has yet responded to this topic I earlier raised. Not in here, anyway. I guess people aren't interested. <sighs> Oh well. Thanks for your response, David G.
Ghaelon: Welcome to the CR. Hope you don't mind Kit and me kicking your butt when we meet you next in our current videogame RPG project. <grin>
Skippy: Welcome to you as well, I enjoyed seeing you at the Gathering. Hope I will enjoy having you in the CR too.
SJ: $ I still want to do the Phalanx assimilation, don't worry. But it's going to strike at the same time as the Borg one, so your party can take care of the Phalanx while we handle Guod. Hope this is agreeable to you, good luck with your upcoming RPs. To see what I'm doing, look to the beginning and end of this post. $
Hmm, guess that's all for now. Oh, and people, can we please get the RP started back up now that the Gathering's over? I know it was not responsible for the CR's collapse last week, there's no reason to be scared out of doing it. Let's continue the story and have fun! :)
**SPEAKING OF WHICH, BACK TO RP**
Kitainia calls up to Doug suddenly, asking if he will ever come down. Doug sighs and nods, shouting back down to her that he will be down shortly. Just then there is a shimmering on the horizon, and Guod's humongous World Devestator appears in the middle of a nearby gigantic government farm. "Oh my God!" Doug shouts. "What the heck is that?" "It has to be the bad guys' base," says Kitainia. "Guess they had a cloak failure or something. They could start assimilating the world any minute. Come on, we have to find everyone and let them know what's up!" "If they don't know already," Doug agrees. He leaps down from the tower and the two rush for the Onslaught to find their friends.
The display shifts to inside the World Devestator, where Guod's Borg are observing the alarms going off all over Crown Point as Wilek's forces start mobilizing. "What the hell happened?" Daria's dad asks, putting his hands to his face. "I thought we were cloaked!!" "Stay calm, dear," Daria's mom tells him. "Alright, who shut down the cloak without permission?" raves the PJs character Sanchez. "Uh, I think I did," gulps Chuckie (from Rugrats). "I was pressing all the buttons on the main console to see what they did and..." "You ignorant baby!" shouts Stewie (from Family Guy). "Why Guod ever assimilated you I do not know. Your blundering has exposed us to the enemy before schedule!" "Sorry," Chuckie moans. "It does not matter," Two of One tries to rectify the situation. "Everyone, Wilek's forces will soon be upon us. Let us prepare for war." The screen fades out.
**END RP FOR NOW**
Later, everyone!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:42:39 PM
IP: pool-209-138-63-65.dlls.grid.net
Greetings all...
SKIPPY - <does the right-fist-slam-into-left-chest salute> Ker'pLOP! :) Good to see you in here, man! Kick back and enjoy!
JENNA - Thanks! You, Michael and Aaron were great roomies too!
BIG NEWS! My Gathering 1999 Diary is up and running! Clickie my name to get to my website, then click the 'Wyvern Archives' link to get to it... and don't worry, the pics will be coming ASAP!
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:39:27 PM
IP: m159.ieway.com
No RP just yet. I want to see where Doug wants to go first (he wanted to do the whole Phalanx assimilation a while back and, unfortunately, I sort of stalled him, so...we'll see where he wants to pick things up). :)
Pistoff: Damn, that's frustrating about you book. I know one woman, she tried her hardest to get her own book published, but nothing ever happened. She wound up having to slave for years, saving up every penny to publish the thing herself. I'm not saying that's an option for you--I don't know how much the Pizza Hut shells out, most likely not enough to start your own publishing firm :( --but it just goes to show you, the business isn't easy to break into.
But I agree with your rant about romance novels and like books. I don't understand it either, but *hack writing sells*. I swear to God, it's goddamn amazing. Why, even in the SF genre--I can't even begin to list the talented people who have to slave to write the novelization to the newest box-office-soon-to-be-bomb (Be honest, how many times have you seen the words "adapted by Alan Dean Foster"?) or write another innane Star Trek book. It's a horrible cliche, but "real talent is not appreciated". For example, H.P.Lovecraft, (who I feel is one of the greatest authors of horror fiction in the past 200 years) died largely unknown. It was only afterwards, when the Derleths began to collect his works into volumes did he find his fame. The point is, you are a great writer, you are very talented, and even though you are not being appreciated now, I have hope that one day you *will* be given you due. :)
LORD OF THE RINGS UPDATE: Rumor going round right now is that Sean Astin, known from such films as "Goonies", "Encino Man", and "Rudy", may be up for the part of Samwise. Now, I think this will probably upset many die-hard Tolkien fans, but...personally, I can picture that. Astin has always looked sort of hobbitish to me, at least....Regardless, these movies are going to be better than the new Star Wars, I'm sure of that.
JEWEL IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!! Hey, we've missed you! Man, it's been one loooong time! I almost wondered if you had dropped off the face of the earth ;) Still, I'm glad you're back, hopefully for good. :)
BTW, as you may or may not know, Neil Gaiman just recently stated that the "Neverwhere" movie is most definitely a go. It's found a home (Dimension Films), a script is in, and right now they're looking for directors. If they work quickly, they could maybe make a Christmas 2000 release...
SOUTH PARK HATERS: Another reason for you to hate the new South Park movie, opening tomorrow--Jar Jar Binks is in it. Apperently, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the brains behind South Park, put him in the movie because they "knew people would hate him" and knew that Jar Jar "would piss people off". Well, they got that right...
BTW, anyone watch Felicity tonight? I hate that show. But I caught the last five minutes, cause it's that one where the guy gets hit head-on by the bus. Ever see this? It's the single funniest moment on screen. One minute there, the next he's a hood ornament....
Okay, I have a sick sense of humor.
Deuce: We must be both sick, cause I distinctively remmeber having a dream once involving the gargoyles, and...well, Angela was attracted to me. VERY attracted to me....my, it was a weird dream. But not unpleasant...;0)
Crocodile Hunter: Did someone mention my favorite Aussie of all time, Steve Irwin (sp?)?? This guy is both a god and a certifiable nutjob. I watch his show on Animal Planet every weekend...but I'm convince the guy either has balls made of brass or is sick in the head. For instance, one of this past weekend's shows had him in the water, at night (with the flashlight failing), trying to net a crocodile....the crocodile was in the little pond of water with him...and he was feeling for it with his hands and feet, as it kept bumping into him. Think about that: he's knee deep in water with a crocodile, with no protection, and the man is actually sticking his hands and feet in the pond to try and grab the croc. Of course, the last half-hour was spent showing how he trapped a croc...then wrestled the damn thing to tie it up. HE'S NUTS! But God, I love his show. He's the greatest!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:29:53 PM
IP: 207-172-117-16.s16.tnt12.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Just a few random thoughts-
***New EP***
What if Xanatos is putting the Sun Amulet on display in a museum as am ancient "artifact"? hee hee
***end***
TRC- that picture reminded me of *clears throat* "GARGOYLES: BEYOND"
Everyone, get the grill started *glances at Kat and Skippy the Klingon* NEW MEAT! Ha Ha, jus' juking!;) Welome to the CR!
Yay! one more series to read (The Dark Ages) and I'm all caught up in reading, I just finished *sigh* reading the Pendragon series. It is a great series and I agree with some of the people in here that would like an "all Pendragon" story soon.
Bye now,
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Colorado Springs, CO, 80904
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:28:10 PM
IP: 1cust187.tnt4.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Coming to you live from Crzy's house in CA, where I've begun my vacation from my vacation...
Well, I survived G99. I had a blast, too. Only got about half a roll of pictures, though, since I was so busy running around trying to keep some small piece of my sanity, so I hope everyone who did get pics posts them soon.
I'll have more to say later about the con, in the main S8 comment room. Right now I just want to ask a favor of anyone who may have saved last week's comment room with the discussion on "Something Old, Something New" before the room was wiped twice. Please sent a copy to me... I'm anxious to hear what people thought of the story!
More later... off to deprive myself of more sleep. :)
Patrick Toman - [PatrickAT@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:22:19 PM
IP: host21.sn180-3.sysci.org
Skippy! Welcome to our nightmare! You were great... and I am a bit jealous that you got luvin's from Myrh. :P I had to seek elsewhere for luvins... DENIED. LOL
CrzyDemona
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:11:20 PM
IP: host21.sn180-3.sysci.org
Gonna keep this fairly short. I still have to type up the second part of my Gathering trip for the other CR, and that'll take a lot of time...
Pistoff- That sucks man. It really does... Tell ya what, when I get my publishing company up and running, (as if) I'll give your stuff a fair read. In the meantime, try a psuedonymn. It worked for Steven King.
Ghaleon- Gargoyles meet the Crocadile hunter? Interesting idea... Incidentally, my fanfics have an Australian clan of... Two... (Ona these days I'll put all... 20 or so of those things up... Maybe when this TGS season ends...)
Mandi- Depending on if Heather goes or not, next Gathering we may go as Emrys and Corbie...
Possible Trek Presidents- What about Brent Spiner?
Jewel- Good luck on the apartment!
Kyryn- Ah well, maybe next year...
Skippy the Klingon- Welcomes! You'll be a fun addition to insanity! Which reminds me, let Deuce take your remaining sanity from you! DOn't know WHY he does that, but he does...
Kat- As long as you aren't spamming the room or doing something utterly pointless just for the sake of annoying people, there's not such thing as clutter. So feel free to post as much as you want. SPecially considering Traveler and Doug have reached the maximum before...
Eh, I'll RP later... GOnna be busy at Station 8 for a while...
Robby
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:52:47 PM
IP: spider-wj052.proxy.aol.com
This little gargess has lurked long enough. I'm reading the current TGS ep, so I think I'll do a little running commentary.
***SPOILERS FOR RE-EMERGENCE PT. 1***
What, no pictures? ::sniff:: I so enjoyed last week's illustrations, especially that oh-so-kawaii pic of Liz & co. Ah, well.
Gee, given the "Previously on Gargoyles" and the reference to that fight with Hyena, ya think someone's looking for that Mayan sun amulet? Hmm....
Twenty-two locations, eh? So we know about: Manhattan, London, Caledonia, New Olympus, Guatemala, Australia, Africa, Ishimura, Queen Florence Island (where Natsilane is), Prague, and Arizona. That's eleven. So eleven other locations? Yikes. I wonder what was there....
Wait, so the rest of the clan, as well as Xanatos, knows about New Olympus? I thought that was supposed to be a secret! Or am I forgetting an earlier ep that dealt with this?
<<"You forget," Lexington pointed out, "we have the owner of a multi-national corporation at our disposal.">> HA, that's what *you* think. It's more the case that the owner of a multi-national corporation has a clan of gargoyles at *his* disposal. I wonder what angle Xanatos has in all this? Oh, I'm sure altruism is a factor, but it sure as heck ain't his *only* motivation. Maybe just the fact that all of those clans are going to have him to thank for bringing them together? ::grins:: Heyla, there's a type of immortality for him: no gargoyle clan will ever forget David Xanatos after he's instrumental in uniting their race! And, of course, he also has Alex to think about. Having a large group of loyal gargoyles might come in handy for his son someday. Well, just look at Timedancer--"Alex's" clan is most prestigious.
In any event, I'm excited to see that the clan is splitting up; that large a cast can be so unwieldy. A new world tour sounds very interesting, especially since we'll get to see what happened to everyone *and* lay the foundation for the unification of the race. I'm especially glad that they'll have contact with the Guatemala clan (some of which *must* have survived because we saw gargs from that clan in the future); that clan has been isolated for far too long.
The Trio together again? Yay!!! And Coyote?!?! Ohmigosh, that's so funny. <<"Who wants butter rolls?">> ::imagines that being said in Xanatos' voice and cracks up::
Angela!!! Ack, will that girl *never* learn? Okay, yes, so Goliath is psycho-paranoid about magic, especially magical artifacts, but doesn't she remember how horrible she felt last time she was sneaking around and keeping secrets?
<<"Well, what do you know?">> ::groans:: Definitely Hyena. Oh, I hope they don't get the amulet!! Wait, there are pendant-bearers in the future, so the amulet must survive, mustn't it?
The pyramid's been demolished?? Oh, no!! What about the rookery?! Oh, I see, it wasn't actually in the pyramid. Well, that's a relief. Obsidiana's still in one piece, in the Gargoyles universe that's a hopeful sign.
Leaving the rookery behind? Well, if it's been safe this long, I suppose Zafiro's presence isn't going to make much of a difference. And the poor guy should not be left out there all alone, or he'll soon be in no condition to care for the eggs.
Figures Demona would want to duplicate the amulet's magic. Oro? Who the heck is Oro? Huh, he must be lying about being part of the Guatemalan clan, or else wouldn't the other four have mentioned him? But is he a bad guy, or something else? He knows about the amulet, is he the one breaking into the museums? Oro... I don't know what that means, if anything, but it sounds similar to Auro... AU... gold.... The others are named after the stones in the amulet, and isn't the amulet itself gold? Eh, I'm probably way off-base. 'Twas but a thought. Hey, and he *doesn't* know about the pyramid's being destroyed, or else he's pretending not to.
Another thought--any known bad guys out there with "piercing blue eyes"? If Demona can do a spell to make her gargoyle self look like a human, someone could certainly do a spell to make themself look like a gargoyle. But how would they know about the Guatemalan clan? And *why* do this?
AHA, so Obsidiana's *not* dead! That's good. It seems weird that she stayed stone for so long. But then again, it's sort of like the gargoyle version of a coma, isn't it? So I suppose it's not too implausible.
Oh, *great*, the Ultra-Pack. Just what they need. I wonder who hired them? Does it have something to do with Oro? So they got Angela. Great, so when she escapes or is rescued, the clan will be so happy she's safe that she'll get off easy for taking the amulet in the first place.
Final thoughts:
Hmm, so Ariana saw Angela sneak out. Well, after they find out that the sun amulet's missing, and that Angela hasn't come back (or vice versa), Ari-chan can help them connect the two. I wonder if they'll think to contact Demona, and find out that she has the amulet? Oh, hey, and then she could meet Zafiro and Obsidiana. Maybe she'd have an easier time relating to them than she did to the London clan.
SO many unanswered questions--I can't wait for next week!
***END SPOILERS***
Oh! I didn't realize I had rambled on so. In that case I'd better end this post here and not clutter up the CR any more than I already have. TTFN!
Kat - [KatalinaGC@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:04:37 PM
IP: spider-wk012.proxy.aol.com
Hey all .
Pistoff : Ever considered writing under an assumed name . Preferrably one that might suggest your related to someone who can pull strings but is fairly common so as to avoid certain possible (though unlikely) legal complications . Just think , 5 years down the line when you've made #1 best seller you could reveal your true identity and just watch all the publishers kick themselves >8-D .
Course an agent also sounds good . Preferrably one who who's been charged with assault , or better yet one charged with assault who got the person to drop the charges .
Remember , like Kyryn says , best way to hold attention is to leave them asking questions , that are to be answered later on , in every page . Probably more often in the earlier paragraphs . Then answer the questions in part and/or make them ask more as you progress .
Gathering 2000 : Orlando sounds good , really good actually . My brother lives their right now and though I visited him last year , I never made it Disney world , although I did get to go to Downtown Disney which was also really neat . The Garg merchandise I saw there , (Johnny Bravo impression) ohhhhhhh mama . He's moving to Fort Lauderdale , but I'm sure I can twist him into giving me a ride or arranging something . I spent years as his wipping boy and go-fer , now I'm bigger than him and have yet to beat him up . I'd say he owes me . So I'd be ok on that end . And since I'm not going anywhere this Summer , I'm bound to be able to make it . But I'm trying not to get to hopeful . After all , the best laid plans of mice and men . . . .
Wilek : Now that I think about it , it really is the next best thing to Godhood when I'm aware that I'm in a dreamstate . I get tired of someone I can have them folded into a hat and be able to completely ignore them afterward . $Can you fill me in on what happened in the RP after Greg told Sj his old man was in Egypt ? PLease .$
Aaron : Assuming that Jackal has no record with the airline , is willing and available , a collectin might be a good idea . Pistoff and the others too . hmmm (strokes chin contemplatively) , Am I an 'other' ? (J/k) .
Heather : That pic was AWEsome . Should provide alot of inspiration for my work , 'specially since Im', haveing a dry spell . Gratzi .
Jewel : Nice to have you back in , if only for a little while . Sorry to hear about your recent trouble at home though .
Ghaelon : _Lethe_ , the longest . HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEEEEHEHEHEE . Just wait unitil you reach Darkest hour . hint- Keep coffee handy . All the same , it'll be a sweet sweet torture so do'nt worry too much . Think of it as foreplay to the immminent satisfaction of completeing the season . It' the only way you'll finish it without haveing a psychotic episode . Then when you finally finish you'll be unable for the next season to start . I speak from experience .
(licks lips) , mmmmmm Jerk Klingon .
Skippy the Klingon : Glad to here you'll be around I hear Klingon flesh is quite tasty , especially with a little scotch bonnet pepper for seasoning .
You got the laugh you were looking for . I ca'nt believe it though , a newbie reached the Gathering before the rest of the fate shunned .
Most fitting Wild west Cliche - The guy who's always in prison because he constantly beats up the people who beat him at cards .
Gargoyle clans - Gargoyles I think would mainly live in mountainous regions or by the see , assuming these locations are not uninhabitabble for some reason , since these are the main places where you can find wind currents strong enough for them to fly . The "Trolls" need'nt concern themselves with this , they could live almost anywhere that's not inhabited by humans .
I like the thought of aquatic gargs the best so far . A 'Defenders of the Marsh' kinda thing .
I think that Tibetan gargs could be likely . They would'nt have to explain to the visitors of the monastery why they wore body conceiling robes , why they only come out at night , and they could be protecting the monastery from thieves and yeti . Course they could be mistaken for yeti too . But I guess that that would contradict all the large human-like footprints that have been found .
There couldbe an undiscovered (relatively) island in the Bermuda triangle .
The Himalayas .
Maybe another magical island hidden from the rest of the world . This one is just dripping with potential .
****SPOILERS FOR NEW EP****
You know , that jet sounded suspiciously like a modified SR-71 Blacbird . The outer design anyway .
The 'Oro' subplot has me intrigued I gott admit , he definitely sounds like a phony . I do'nt think that it's Harthoth though . I doubt that he would have needed a disguise and Demona would have been able to sense the magic in him since he strikes me as _much_ more powerful than she is .
I'm betting that Harthoth or the guy in the wheel chair is the one hiring the pack though . Harthoth would be able to deal with any treachery easily and we do'nt know the power of the man in the wheel chair yet .
****END SPOILERS****
Here's a pick that makes me think that the artist i somewhat familiar with our friend Griff . Probably got a little inspiration from him too . Click , the name .
Later folks .
The Rolling Calf - [aliscke@jamweb.net]
Kingston, Jamaica
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 09:55:04 PM
IP: 208.244.41.201
Well, that was a facinating experience for me...
I have to say the G99 was a neat show (even if I missed most of it) I had never realized till now how organized Garg-fandom really was. It may be small, but I haven't seen as dedicated group as this...
As fandoms go, I personally am into a bit of everything. I really just do the Klingon bit for laughs (and an occasional kiss from Mhyr!:) but I gotta say that finding out about you guys has opened up my intrest a lot more.
I hate to say it, but your gonna have a Klingon running around here from now on!
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Payne Springs, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 09:30:51 PM
IP: uv1-54.ultravision.net
Gor, blimey! Lethe has gotta be the longest TGS ever! (At least I hope it is, otherwise I'll never get caught up...)
Pistoff: That's what sucks about writing. Regardless of your talent or quality of writing, getting published is a crap shoot at best. Your best bet is to get an agent.
Food for thought...if we're talking about other clans, how about one in Australia? I'd love to see that weird Australian guy who pisses off dangerous snakes come across a gargoyle.
And now I've put off reading Lethe long enough. This'll take me the better part of the evening...
Ghaleon
St. Louis, Missouri
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 09:15:41 PM
IP: gatekeeper1.solutia.com
Heather - Why would anyone laugh? That's a great design. :)
Jenniren
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 09:05:59 PM
IP: user-2ivf0oj.dialup.mindspring.com
***Kyryn looks in***
David McMillan>Click on my name below to link to the text version of the site at http://www.khatt.net/gargsaga/darkesthour2.html
Hopefully this should work.
***Kyryn disappears***
Kyryn - [<<<<<-----]
Uvalde, TX
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 08:30:27 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Quicky:
Heather-> I have heard of Animorphs, and I only read the first two books. *grins sheepishly* I really liked them, but I just never got around to buying the rest of the series. BTW- that is a good pic of the garg.
That's all folks! (for now)
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 07:45:56 PM
IP: 1cust187.tnt4.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
Hi folks. It's me again. At some point tonight I"m going to go collect all the 'new clan' guesess. To make this fair, I think everybody should be limited to 6 guesses for the new clans. That means I'm going to have to pare down my list.
If you guys want to make this simple for me, you can e-mail me your guesess. Post them to the room anyway, so everyone else can see them, but that way I won't have to go hunting for them.
Once the truth has been revealed, I'll post a list of who got how many right. The person with the most wins ABSOLUTLY NOTHING, but if you asked, JackaL might be willing to lick you. :)
David (I forgot your last name, and if I go back to look for it, I'll loose this whole post). I have a copy of Darkest Hour 2 on disk. I can't do attachments from home for some wierd reason, but if you don't mind waiting until morning, I can send it from work.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 07:34:53 PM
IP: pppa41-fortworthb4-4r522.saturn.bbn.com
Greetings. I hate to be a bother, but I'm afraid I've exhausted all of my other alternatives. You see, I have this problem with "The Darkest Hour, Part 2."
Not with the story -- just with the file. Despite everything I do, when I try to access the file in the episode archive, what I get is cut off at about the point where Fox and Titania are leaving the elevator. I've used all the usual browser tricks, on two different machines (Netscape and IE both), with no luck.
Frankly, it's driving me crazy.
So, I'm begging. Since I haven't found a webmaster edress for gargoyles-fans.org, I'm wondering if some kind soul might take pity on me and point me to an alternate archive that my browser might accept better, or perhaps even email me a complete copy.
Please?
David McMillan - [skyefire@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 07:20:16 PM
IP: abd1f181.ipt.aol.com
Hello all
Have not been in here for a week I had nothing to talk about.
SPOLIERS FOR RE- EMERGENCE PART 1
This episode was pretty good. We finaly know how the Gualmalen Clan is doing after the unseelie battle. Oro I to think he is Harthoth in a different gargoyle form. Hopefuly angela well get away from the Pack in time and get to her mothers home in time. So all in all a good episode.
END SPOLIERS
Heather> Very cool pic
Pendragon> I to would like to see at least one more episode of Pendragon before the season ends. Also so we can see how the Clan is doing with the new hatchlings.
Different Clans that have not been found> Well we know of the 6 of the 12 Clans. This is where I think the rest my be.
Asia
Rome
Hawaii
Irland
India
Germany
Lawrence Stone - [Craft_ Celtic@yahoo.com]
Chillicothe, Ohio, U.S.A.
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 06:48:21 PM
IP: chil-ras6-3-cs-4.dial.bright.net
Heather--Like the design of your falcon-garg.
Jenna
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 05:26:16 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
**looks around** Looks like no one ever heard of Animorphs. Oh well.
Undisovered clans > My idea for a clan is maybe in the Rocky Mountains. The link I have is of a gargoyles I made up by the name of Ekanga. It's indian for "leader". He looks like a peregrine falcon. Keep the laughing low ok ?
**sighs and leaves**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 05:24:22 PM
IP: abd18152.ipt.aol.com
Hey there Steve!! Man I still feel exhausted. But in a good way.
Pistoff--An agent is the answer. Good luck!!
Jenna
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 04:52:52 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Greetings all...
PISTOFF - I agree with what's been said. Get an Agent, dude. I'm going to start doing that now, and hopefully have one before the summer is over, or the year is out.
MANDI - Dang! I hope your camera is returned. Fortunately I have four rolls of film in the developers this morning, and one was filled with pics taken saturday, and of pics during the Masquerade... but, did anyone get a pic of Siryn as Bluebonnet? And Patrick, if you're out there, I need that pic of that one Security girl, Kara, in her cat outfit.
Well, I finished my Gathering Diary this morning <smiles>! I just realized all the stuff I did during those four days (because I arrived a day early)! I'll have the account up soon on my website, and the pics up shortly thereafter when I get them scanned.
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 04:21:26 PM
IP: m32.ieway.com
Hi, all!
It was SO GREAT to get to meet so many of you at the Gathering, and SO SUCKY that I was running around so much that I didn't get to do all the visiting I wanted!
Pistoff > someone, I forget who, was saying we should have called long distance for a pizza and made them send you all the way to deliver it, and then we could've held you hostage for the rest of the weekend ; )
Gunjack > I still can't believe you're 17 ... thanks for being in the game! Sorry the 3rd session was cancelled; I was in no shape to even think straight let alone try to run. I had lots of fun while it was happening, though, and it was great the way those iron-shod hooves made such short work of that toadie ; )
I will be writing and posting my usual long-winded essay on the Gathering, but it may be a week or more because the movers arrive Thursday morning and then we remodel the kitchen. I just hope by the time I get to sit down and write it, I remember everything! Pics, too, I took lots of them so I just have to get them developed (and then get the scanner hooked back up and all).
Becca had such a wonderful time in her Lex suit! I'm especially dying to see how the pic of her and Thom came out!
Okay, really have to go pack some more ...
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 03:57:18 PM
IP: 01-056.009.popsite.net
Well, I got back from the Gathering yesterday. It was the most fun I've had since the last one. It ROCKED!!!
The Masquerade was great. I was very pleased with the way my Madoc costume came out. And my Unseelie Court was all I hoped it would be. We had a Maeve, Garlon, Sekhmet, and Loki. To all who came as Unseelies, thank you.
The guy who came as Graeme had a great costume, as soon as he walked in I was like "Ooohhh, he's going to win." And he did.
CrzyJen looked great in her costume as well. Saloon girl Demona.
The dinner there was good, I sat at the TGS table which was next to the table that Greg Weisman sat at.
So much to comment on, so little time.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 03:57:02 PM
IP: spider-wm081.proxy.aol.com
**Kyryn peers in**
Ah well, the TGS sites seem to be back to normal...
Pistoff> Sorry to hear about your novel. Most of the writers that I know (several are published with several books to their credit) suggest either getting an agent, or trying to get a short story published first, or both. Also, I've been told that if a reader (lowest editor) starts reading it and it doesn't grab his/her interest in the first paragraph/page, it gets sent back. In a second reading with a higher editor, if it doesn't hold interest in the first 20 pages, it gets sent back. If the story makes it past the second reading, it has a chance.
A lot also depends on what kind of stories the market is currently open to, and how much of a particular type that a publisher currently has.
*blink*
Robby> Sorry that we didn't get a chance to talk more at the Gathering. I didn't get nearly enough time to talk to folks and see everything I wanted to. I was trying to balance demands of RL husband and friends who only see me on weekends, and enjoying myself at the con.
Later All!
**Kyryn sneaks out**
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 03:29:57 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Aaron---Hey there!!!**Tackles Aaron! Hehehe!! thanks for giving me the card to the place you got your tattoo done. I am seriously thinking about getting a Delilah one myself--but a bit smaller than the lovely Demona who graces your chest. **hehehe!!**
You were a cool roomie!! You going to the next Gathering in Florida?
Jenna
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 03:06:09 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Hi, honey. I'm home. Oh, that's right. I'm not married.
Still, here I am, back again.
What a weekend it was at G99. The clan assembled, and the clan departed. In between, we laughed, we cried, (I hope no one hurled) and we toasted absent friends.
I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I spent way too much money on merchandise, but hey, the Gathering comes but once a year.
Met a lot of really interesting people. Hi, to everyone here how was also there. And also Greg and Thom. I got my picture taken with them both, and got their autographs. And I got to be in the radio play, despite a *really* suck-@$$ audition. But the coolest part was when I showed Thom my tattoo and he said "Hey cool! I've been thinking about getting one." In short, I really hope to make G2K.
Speaking of which, I think we should take up a collection to bring Pistoff, JackaL and others to Orlando. What do you guys think?
Has anyone seen the Koosh Vortex Tornado? With a few modifications(like a paint job)it's a dead ringer for the blaster Demona uses in "Long Way to Morning" I'm hopefully coming in costume next time, either as Frank Black or Vince Kozlowski, (One of Demona's harem, anyway) and I'm gonna bring this.
Todd J>The question with JW Booth isn't whether he shot Lincoln, but whether he was ever actually caught.
Robby> Shatner as Prez still sounds better then Ross Perot.
Gunjack><there is nothing better than Demona dressed in a floozy barmaid’s outfit.;)> I can think of a few things, but I won't mention them here.
Pistoff> Yessssss! Truce is out! Cool! As for breaking in, I dunno, maybe you should kidnap a few publishing execs. :) (That was a joke. Hey, wait, where are you going?)
Stormy> I dunno if you'll read this, but hurry back.
Later.
Aaron wanders off, singing the Demona version of Bohemian Rhaposdy.
"Is this the real life... Or sci/fi fantasy"
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 02:29:55 PM
IP: ppp-132.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Oops...That's right. There were 20 sites, but there are only supposed to be 12 clans. That means some of the ones we don't know about contain something besides Gargoyles. Anybody want to try guessing what the other 'somethings' could be? I've got a couple of theories. Madoc's basic plan was to eleminate everyone on earth who could pose a supernatural threat to his plans. This included anyone with obvious supernatural powers, and any unions of humans and gargoyles. Once you eleminate the gargoyles, that leaves anyone with a lot of power (magical or not -look at Dingo) and a high profile.
- Escaped, neutral Fey. The Gathering may not have been quite as comprehensive as Oberon wanted it to be. The nine-tails in Japan indicate that possibly some lesser faerie types escaped the big guy's notice.
- Werewolves and Vampires. Greg has mentioned that they exist, so why not?
- Covens of witches or mages. A group of halflings or just mortal sorcerers might be important enough to merit Madoc's attention.
On to a couple of other things:
Doug> glad you're back. It's funny that you should mention resurected heroes. I've had a couple of ideas about that myself...
Fanfic> I may finally finish the first story tonight. If so, I'll probably post it shortly thereafter. That way, anybody who reads it and likes it will badger me about writing the second one. I need a lot of nagging sometimes.
Next 'Obnoxiously Long Post'> I've kind of got this idea about exploring the origins of the Gargoyle species and/or the Fey. It would be interesting to work out how the Gargoyles evolved (or were created) as a species, and how they'd fit into an ecology.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 01:40:24 PM
IP: pppa34-fortworthb8-3r523.saturn.bbn.com
Western America gargs-heh. Hee I like that idea. First thing that sprung into my head was the Garden of the Gods clan *LOL* then, what about the Pike's Peak clan, GOD knows that there are lots of places to hide here. Anyhoo,
Pistoff- I'm sorry to hear that the people didn't like your novel, I myself HATE romance novels, and the novels-uh, sorry, crappy books that the FAMOUS people make are enough to make me want to throw up. Anyway, good luck on your next novel, I'll keep my fingers crossed.
That's all for know,
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Colorado Springs
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 01:32:53 PM
IP: 1cust187.tnt4.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
**runs in all screaming with excitement** Attention all Animorphs fans, if there is any here.
THe Animorphs Sony PLaystation game has got art work from the game. An awesome andalite which I think is Visser THree, a Taxxon, a guy getting infested while a Hork-Bajir holds his head, and a cool pic of a Hork-Bajir. I linked it from the Morphz page. See it !
**runs away screaming like an idiot**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:55:26 PM
IP: 98ca2453.ipt.aol.com
**Kyryn sticks her head in***
Folks, some parts of Wyvernweb appear to be having problems. I can get to the main gargoyles-fans.org site, but I get error messages when trying to access any of TGS-- staff sections included. I'm off to try and report this to someone.
***Kyryn disappears***
Kyryn
Uvalde, TX
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:41:12 PM
IP: 168.37.239.86
Ola! No, i did not fall off the face of the earth, despite any beliefs to the contrary! Sorry I've been gone for so long--what is it, almost two months maybe?--but my life went complex. A lot's happened--I was in a car accident and totalled my car (Car:0, tree:1), I graduated from college (and it was a close call; I didn;t know until 3 days before graduation if I actually would be), had a such a huge fight with my mom I decided not to go home and moved in with my dad--whome I hadn't seen in three years--in Virginia--so far out in the boonies I don't have real e-mail access, got a job offer and fingerprinted, cheerfully am in the process of learning Linux (I got a Linux box and am really exciting--yes, folks, I am turning into a computer geek!) and am now killing time before my big brother's wedding in July. I'm about to start ye ole apartment search, contingent on my actually getting a job. The job offer I spoke of before is only partial: it can't be "offical" until I've undergone a background check. I'd be doing computer tech support for the Customs department, so I have to have a background check--they're actually sending out FBI to talk to my friends. Oog. Anyway, that's the short version. If by any chance anyone cares for the long version, e-mail me, and I'll tell you about the insanity that has been my life for the last few months. I fully *earned* the title of "God's Jester"--'cause boy, could I ever hear God laughing at me...
Shatner for prez: God forbid. He may be Kirk, but *no*. Nimoy, oh yeah. And as for the idea trekies would vote for Shatner, pfft. Every trekker I know can't stand him. I tell you, there's nothing more fun than watching the opening credit for ST with a bunch of anti-shatner trekkies--they boo and hiss and make obscene gestures when his name appears, then bow down for Leonard Nimoy. (For the record: I just sit there in amused disbelief at their display)
Land o'fanfic: For any of you out there who read my fanfic, "Apokalypsis" hasn't languished away to nothing. I'm really close to finishing the next story, "Lightning Crashes." Provided I don't get sucked up into something else I'm writing, I should get it done.
Well, that's about it. I'll try to get back into the comment room next week, but I won't be able to post regularly until August--that's when I (crosses fingers) shoudl be starting my job and will have my own apartment. I'll be just outside of DC, which should be cool--I'm a total politics hound. =)
Jewel Faulkner - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:26:56 PM
IP: usr31.halifax.com
Well, I'm back from the Gathering! :) Thanks to everyone who went for helping me have such a great time there, and I missed all of you who weren't able to come (especially Kit). I will say more about it and respond to other topics in a later post, I just wanted to share this creativity demon before I have to go to work:
I was thinking about Arthur and Rory/Cu Chillian last night and got an idea. I think it goes without saying that they've both returned to the world because of some apocalyptic event
that is soon in coming. (Granted, Arthur didn't from the way things look, but the event just may not have yet made itself known and his awakening at the same time as Cu Chillian's, followed by Merlin's can't be a coincidence.) What I'm wondering is, if these two heroes returned to the world,
couldn't others return as well? A common thread in mythology is that when a great hero dies, they are supposed to return in the time when they will be needed the most and help their people. An apocalyptic event would warrant such a time of need, and could also let Gargoyles provide for crossovers with Disney movies and series that happened a long time before their series started (such as Hercules, Aladdin, and Mulan). I think this definitely might have happened if the
Gargoyles story had been allowed to continue, and wonder what the rest of you in here think about it. Also, if you know of any heroes who might make good candidates for return, please tell me about them. You might get credit in one of my fic disclaimers. :)
See you later tonight with a longer post.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:45:31 AM
IP: pool-209-138-163-198.dlls.grid.net
Everyone else is coming home and I'm just leaving...
I'll be spending the next two months posted to Forces Base Trenton, and since the place has all the charm of a P.O.W. camp (read--if you don't even get a phone, internet access is too much to ask) SO...I'll be incommunicado until mid-September. Don't forget me...and don't fade away. I'm looking forward to seeing you all when I come back.
Nice to read about the Gathering since I couldn't make it myself.
TRAVELER--if you're around--thank you for the comments on ICONOCLASM and BLACK WINGS.
COYOTE--I want WCC done when I come home...yeah...loved Part One, but the Outklaws need to create far more havoc before it's over...LOL
And I'm doing some updates to my page before I go, so..new art etc, just KLICK!
Stormy
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:05:49 AM
IP: clifford-217.wcl.on.ca
Deuce - you wrote [I had the weirdest dream last night... Elisa was trying to convince Arianna that her outfit was too revealing, and it was her Hallowe'en Sailor Senshi costume. It looked like they were in Elisa's office, but it had stone walls like the Aerie. I'm a screwed-up individual, I know.]
That's not a screwy dream. If you dreamed you were Arianna and that you went to the Halloween party naked and no one noticed, that would start to be a screwy dream. :)
S.J. - you wrote [Will Shatner as Pres...well, I'd vote for him. He's James T. Kirk damnit!!! ... I second the notion of Leonard Nimoy as V.P.]
No No No. Leonard Nimoy has to be President. Shatner can be Secretary of ... whatever.
Locations for Gargoyles clans - I think they'd try to choose a place with a lot of updrafts to help them glide. They'd probably avoid places without much wind. Question: If there's a Hawaiian clan, how did they get there? It seems like a long way to glide and not much place to hide.
Pistoff - Sorry to hear about your problems getting published. It sounds like the publisher you sent your story to isn't taking any more manuscripts from unpublished authors. Do you think it would help if you co-wrote something with a published author? Even if you had to do all the actual writing yourself, it might at least get you enough name recognition to get something published on your own.
Jenniren
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:43:42 AM
IP: user-2ivf041.dialup.mindspring.com
All right. I've unpacked, survived the dentist, had my one day of recuperation, managed to see the season premiere of Stargate SG-1 (and my supervisor still hasn't noticed my presence), so now I can get down to business. By now everyone's pretty much said plenty about G99, so ... I'll just say more. :)
**LONG-WINDED RAMBLING ABOUT G99!**
Bad news first - I called the hotel yesterday and there was no sign of the camera. Which leads me to believe that a certain person (who I'm not going to name again or it'll seem like finger-pointing) picked up my camera by mistake. I found the roll of film that has the photo of me with Greg and Thom (thank goodness!), but the film from all my Saturday pics is missing. So if anyone else has photos from Saturday, please send me copies!
Anyway ... the high points, in semi-chronological order.
First off, running into everyone from the CR and from G98 - I ran into Coyote in the lobby even before I'd gone and thrown my stuff into the room, and then Green Baron, Doug, Stephen, JEB, Jubilee, Starsinger, Vanessa (Jackalope), Siryn, Patrick, Crzy, Robby, and everyone. Just FYI, guys: my roommate was sharing a bag full of Pixy Stix, and I'd had quite a few before I ran into most of you ... which should explain a lot, hm? ;)
Clan Feud was actually fun ... but whoever was recording that, please don't show it to anyone! I'll pay you! (It was almost 8 pm, and all I'd eaten was half a piece of toast and some airline food, so I was kind of light-headed.) I got on Patrick's nerves by trying to beat him to the point tally - basically, we ended up acting really immature, even bolting for the exit when they said we still had to do the lightning round. We did manage to find a Burger King afterwards.
Finding out that Jubilee was bidding for an Orlando con. Okay, Orlando's still pretty far away for me, but at least it's not the West Coast. Besides, if G98 was any indication, having Jubes in charge is gonna be fun. :) And I guess having G2000 in Orlando makes sense.
Those who were at G98 will understand this: NOT GETTING SICK ON SATURDAY! Whoo-hoo! Last time I ended up with a stomachache and sleeping through all the panels I wanted to go to, so making it all through Saturday was a thrill. I even managed to get my butt up in time to help out with morning registration.
Of course, the Masquerade. Coyote, I'll relay what you said to my poor mother who had to deal with my attempts to explain just what I was trying to do with the costume; it was her handiwork, after all. Hopefully, Jamie Murray can do G2000 as well - he was a great emcee.
Next year, if I go, I'm going as a human, though ... so I'm going to ask WAY ahead of time. Is there anyone out there who might be able to go to G2000 that's interested in going as a Pendragon character? I've got dibs on Dulcinea, but getting Rory, Leba, or especially Arthur would be a big help. I considered asking Dave to do Rory, since he can do a convincing Irish accent, but he doesn't have the red hair, the money, or the interest to let me drag him down to Orlando next year.
**END RAMBLING AND BACK TO REALITY**
Pistoff> Don't apologize for the rant. You're right; there is an unbelievable amount of crap that gets published out there.
Heather> <<Anway, I had this little idea for a clan. How about a clan in America but not in a city. Think...western america. Mountains.>> Cool! *sigh* That reminds me; I have GOT to get "The Sky's the Limit" rewritten and posted so I'll finally have some Clan Laramie/Denver fic posted out there.
Okay, this post is REALLY long, and I have work to do, so til later...
Mandi Ohlin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:10:52 AM
IP: ch163-117.apgea.army.mil
Sevarius JR> <<Hmm...aren't gargoyles supposed to favor warmer climates, or am I incorrect?>>
I think that you are incorrect. I don't think this has ever been stated or implied. Moreover Scotland is supposed to be pretty cold, isn't it? And Greg mentioned the possibility of Alaskan Gargoyles in the series bible.
Btw why is everyone searching for 10 missing clans? We know there are 12 worldwide and we already know of six: Manhattan, New Olympus, London, Ishimura, Guatemala, Scotland. So, there are six clans remaining, that we know of. The '20' mention is the number of places attacked, some of which like Prague don't contain Gargoyles.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 09:31:21 AM
IP: athe530-f001.otenet.gr
Okay, good news and bad news. Bad news first.
My novel was rejected. That in itself doesn't bother me ... much. Publishers and magazine editors have been kicking me in the ass for ten years, so I'm used to it. What bothers me is the speed with which my book was rejected. I mailed it to Baen in April. Their guidelines said it takes them at least nine months to a year to respond. I got mine back today. That's barely two months. Somehow I have the feeling that they didn't even bother to look at it. After all, they want to make a profit, so they'd tend to look for familiar names, people who have already published a lot of books. When they see a manuscript from somebody who has never published anything before, they immediately mail it right back without reading so much as the first sentence. And of course, they sent a standard rejection letter. A form letter. They didn't even tell me WHY they rejected it. All they said was "It's not right for us." That, combined with the speed of the rejection, tells me that they never even read it.
What the hell am I supposed to do in a situation like this? According to the emails I've been getting for months, I seem to know what the hell I'm doing when I write a story. Yet I *still don't have a chance in hell. I've been putting up with this for ten years! I've paid my dues, goddamn it! All I have to show for it is enough rejection letters to wallpaper Bill Gates's mansion.
And yet we live in a world where worthless, formulaic, third-rate, cookie-cutter romance novels written by untalented hacks make up fifty percent of paperback sales. The likes of Judith Krantz and Jackie Collins can crank out one national best-seller after another--and every book is the same damn story over and over again! Yet people keep on reading it! And then the wretched things get made into TV movies starring the likes of Lee Horsely and Ted Danson, whose careers are going down faster than Monica Lewinski, mostly because of these movies they're starring in.
It seems like every cast member of every Star Trek series is cranking out novels, now. I tried to read the first one by Jonathon Frakes; all I can say is, "Don't quit your day job, Jonny boy." Of course, it was all started by William Shatner, whose ghost writer, Ron Goulart, has a self-destruct mechanism that will incinerate everything within six city blocks if anybody ever confronts him with the truth. Would the Tekwar books have been published if Shatner had never become famous as Captain Kirk? I've read most of them, and IMO the answer to that is NO. He can publish anything he wants, even if it's crap, because he was already rich and famous.
They keep making new episodes of Voyager even though the show sucked from the very beginning. They keep making new Star Trek movies even though the last three were unwatchable. But because it's Star Trek, it's allowed to continue.
Jesus, even Ed Wood was able to get his scripts produced. They were absolute garbage, but he made those movies anyway. He had a chance, yet I can't even get my foot in the door.
Who do I have to blow to get something published?
**deep breaths** Sorry about the rant. I'm just soooo fed up with this. Ten years is a long time to keep getting crapped on. It's no longer possible for me to enjoy a story or a book. If it's a good story, I get jealous and insecure. If the story sucks, I fly into a rage because this worthless piece of crap was published and mine was rejected without being read. I'm at the point where I'm ready to tell the entire publishing industry to kiss my hairy ass.
I'm sorry about that. But I just had to get it out of my system.
Now, on to the good news, with a bit of bad news mixed in.
The latest Gargs 2K episode, "Truce," is finally posted in the archive. I had to split it into three parts because it was so damn long. 147 pages, to be exact. 498 KB file. The bad news is that the picture links aren't working. I don't get it. They were working perfectly last night, but now, after I posted the story, the links didn't work. But that's the kind of day it's been. I'll get them fixed as soon as I can ....
Anyway, now that it's finally finished, I think I'll take a few days off to recover and try to catch up on some things, like reading fanfics that I should've read months ago, and working on my new novel (yeah, as if it'll ever be published).
Again, sorry about the rant. I'm just angrier than usual, tonight ...
Pistoff - [pistoff@anti-social.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 01:39:50 AM
IP: wire-6.koalas.com
SJ- Just being over technical here but... There is no such thing as a Vulcan death grip. Only nerve pinches. Was even a major part of plot in an original series episode where Spock supposedly killed Kirk with th edeath grip only to announce there was no such thing as a Vulcan Death grip. Kirk then went into a Romulan desguise, which couldn't have fooled anyone... But I'm kinda killing the joke again, like when I nitpicked your wonder twins death...
Gunjack- Oh yeah... Oswald supposedly fired from the SIXTH floor, not the third. Makes the shot even more impossible don't it?
Robby
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:59:09 AM
IP: spider-we031.proxy.aol.com
<<Um...www.crosswinds.com offers about a gigabyte of space>> I meant www.crosswinds.net. They're so dang similar.
Wilek again
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:49:02 AM
IP: tnt-1-115-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
**VERY SHORT RP!**
[At the Crown Point Town Hall...Wilek: "Vaccination? This *is* going to be administered by a hypospray or something of that nature, right? Because I don't react well to needles..." Rho: "Of course. And, by the way, just before I came here, I recieved a call from the Nation Of Worlds. They say they'll be sending backup, namely a few Dislumini Warbirds. They'll remain cloaked until they're needed."]
**END RP!**
Everyone who was at the Gathering and I wasn't> Welcome back! :D
Gunjack> <<His hair are bloodshot>> It *must* have been a rough weekend if your *hair* is bloodshot. :P <<Then we can have some loony soul set up on the third floor of the book repository with a .30 caliber rifle and scope, and take potshots at the crackpots as they drive buy.>> I'll try it, if by some unimaginable arrangement of circumstances I ever end up in Dallas. :)
Todd> <<Duval, as a former acquaintance of King Arthur's, became increasingly disgusted with the popular nickname for Kennedy's administration, viewing it as a jackdaw dressing itself in eagle's feathers.>> Interesting, although perhaps it wasn't *quite* as simple as that--perhaps he saw JFK's 'Camelot' as a threat to whatever he was planning.
Peter> <<Does anybody know of a free webspace provider that allows you to upload files of any size (1MB+)?>> Um...www.crosswinds.com offers about a gigabyte of space, but they have stringent requirements about what *kind* of file you're uploading--no MP3s, no MIDs, no WAVs, nothing else that has any kind of copyright. Xoom offers about 100 megs, but they put that annoying toolbar on each and every page.
Heather> <<Anway, I had this little idea for a clan. How about a clan in America but not in a city. Think...western america. Mountains.>> Wow...that sounds pretty kewl. Even kewler than my Great Lakes clan. :) And I'm glad you get to go to the Gathering next year. Hey, does anyone know about what week of what month it'll be? I *might* be able to stop by on my way back from Disney World.
**QUITE POSSIBLY THE LONGEST AND MOST DISGUSTING MR. DISCONNECT DEATH I'VE EVER DONE**
[Wilek sneaks up behind DC and renders him unconscious with a blow to the head. When he wakes up, he's strapped to the most twisted and evil looking device that any of the CR dwellers have ever seen. Wilek: "You've messed up the CR, made my new DexDrive unusable, and kept me away from the Gathering. This is not the manner of thing one forgives and forgets." DC: "I didn't keep you from the Gathering!" Wilek: "True, but I have to take it out on *someone*. DC, meet my newest toy: MR. THINGY! <maniacal laughter> This fun little device represents all the advances in pain application technology within the last several centuries. It has everything--electrodes, hyposprays for injecting pain-inducing drugs, a nucleonic transciever, for stimulating the brain's pain centers, and a rack of many innovative handheld tools--blades, cattle prods, and the like--for the hands-on touch that machines simply can't replicate. Instead of babbling about it, why don't I simply demonstrate it." Wilek types something into a console on the machine, and a hypospray fills with a greeninsh liquid, then injects it into DC's neck. "That disabled the neurochemical mechanism that allows you to fall unconcsious when you reach the limits of your pain tolerance. Now, you can experience unimaginable agony." More typing, and four hooks on mechanical arms arrange themselves at a distance from DC. Wilek takes a hooked knife from the rack, and slices open DC's torso, stretching the skin and hooking it onto the...well, the hooks...like one does when one dissects an animal. He takes a bottle full of caustic soda from the rack and administers it to the inside of DC's skin, increasing his agony by several orders of magnitude. Wilek then saws open DC's ribcage with a device designed for that purpose, then grabs what looks like several spiked metal balls from the rack, and puts them in strategic locations in DC's thoracic cavity, among his internal organs. With the press of a button, the spikes extend, shredding DC's viscera, and then an electrical current courses through the spikes, electrocuting DC from the inside. Wilek then types something else into the console, and Mr. Thingy's nucleonic transciever increases the sensitivity of DC's pain sensing neurons, making the pain all but unbearable. Wilek: "I intend to leave you this way for quite a while. Hm, I'm impressed at how much more I've been able to do with Mr. Thingy than just with knives and such. I'll have to thank my design team."]
**END INCREDIBLY TWISTED DEATH THAT WAS ALMOST AS LONG AS TRAVELER'S RPs**
Deuce> <<I'm a screwed-up individual, I know.>> Trust me, my dreams are even weirder. :>
SOROW> <<I passed the hotel on my bus last night but they wouldn't let me stop :(>> <sigh> So close, and yet so far. That sounds even more frustrating than living too far away to go.
Garg clans around the world> Well, there's my aforementioned Great Lakes clan...and Heather's somewhere-in-the-mountains-of-western-America clan...maybe there's a clan in Australia...and there's us of course. ^_^ Oh, and maybe there is or was a clan in what used to be known as Transylvania? There's all manner of weird stuff there, not the least of which is Castle Dracula (which is real, BTW).
Trek and Politics> Maybe Alice Krige should be president. >8)
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:46:09 AM
IP: tnt-1-115-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
Still kind of slow in here; not everyone must be back yet. Ah, well.
Will Shatner as Pres: Oh yeah, I forgot he was Canadian...well, I'd vote for him. He's James T. Kirk damnit!!! Anyone, like Slobodan Milosovich, who gave him any crap, he'd just dropkick out an airlock. I second the notion of Leonard Nimoy as V.P.--it's been far too long since we had a vice pres in office who knows how to do the Vulcan death grip.
Seriously though....compared to some of the candidates for the election I've seen, Shatner seems like a better choice...
Gargoyles, Gargoyles, Gargoyles everwhere!!: Hmm...aren't gargoyles supposed to favor warmer climates, or am I incorrect? I would think, though, that there are probably clans hidden throughout the world, especially in areas of South America, Africa, or the Indonesian islands, because, as another has stated, some of these areas have not been explored by man.
BTW, a little help if you can...can someone email me a list of all gargoyle artists that take commissions? Just their names, and how I can contact them? I would really, really appreciate it. Thanks :)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:15:23 AM
IP: 207-172-52-1.s1.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Okay, I give up. I'll use Loki as my pic from now on seeing as how I'm too lazy to keep looking at others.
Welcome back to those who attended the Gathering. I would have been there if not for lack of money, time, permission, a place to stay...never mind.
William Shatner as president? Now there's a frightening thought...all of America's children would learn about Tekwar before they graduated.
And on that moderately disturbing note, I'm off to read TGS.
Ghaleon
St. Louis, Missouri
Monday, June 28, 1999 11:50:21 PM
IP: gatekeeper1.solutia.com
Alaskan Gargoyles- It could work. Gargoyles work on a biological clock, that just happens to correspond with the sun. Alaskan gargoyles would still sleep about 12 hours a day, stone sleep simply wouldn't be trigered by daylight.
Robby
Monday, June 28, 1999 11:49:45 PM
IP: spider-we071.proxy.aol.com
Just spent an hour and a half typing up a summarry of my first day at the Gathering in the S8 room. It clocks in at about 6 pages, go check it out.
Robby
Monday, June 28, 1999 11:27:55 PM
IP: spider-we073.proxy.aol.com
Amy> good point about Alaska. I hadn't considered the white nights problem. Northern Siberia and Antarctica have the same problem.
By the way, you're a Ranma fan. Do you do Fan Sub anime, or just domestic stuff, or even (gasp) just Manga? I'm looking for people to trade tapes with.
Now, I haven't said goodnight in a while, so here goes:
May your journey to Morpheus' realm be safe and sweet. May your host there be gentle and generous. And when you wake, may your day be all that you desire.
(Night sleepers, reverse day/night as appropriate)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, June 28, 1999 11:24:12 PM
IP: pppa39-fortworthb17-4r662.saturn.bbn.com
Hey all!
guesses at places Gargoyles could hide:
1. Greece, or one of the many islands. Since not all of them have been mapped.
2. Somewhere in Indochina, again, most haven't been mapped.
3. Alaska: VERY big place, but the only problem is the daylight hours. Would they sleep for half a year? (And if they DID exist, would they be in stone sleep and the Unseelie killed them all off? That would be a HUGE fatality)
4. Another place in America: Rocky mountains, also very undiscovered.
5. (having waaaay too much fun with this!) China, very big place, tons of farmers and varying laungage. Someone COULD have spotted them, but it stayed within a villiage with a seperate lang.
6. Antarctica: There might be hot springs, magic amulet thingys *grin*, or volcanic activity under an ice self no one knows about.
7. Last one! Promise! Underwater. *grin* somewhere in the ocean, uses wings (and maybe altered tail?) to swim. Has gills, becomes stone at night, just sinks. Maybe if they're dolphin like shallow island areas. Maybe has to swim to shallow water so when dawn comes it's not too deep to swim up and get that vital first breath.
Shatner thing: Ick, but hey, we've had TV personalities for presidents before, and now a wrestler is a mayor. This IS America, land of the weird, home of the impossible.
Ja ne,
Amy da tigger - [Tigeres57@aol.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:59:43 PM
IP: spider-ti042.proxy.aol.com
The rules for being President for those who don't know...
1) Must be at least 35.
2) Must have lived in the United States for 14 years. These do not have to be consecutive.
3) Must be a natural born citizen of the United States. However, if both parents are American and one was born in a foreign country, this may not apply.
However, since Shatner was not a natural born citizen of the United states and his parents weren't from the united states, he can't apply for President. Which is probably the only reason he hasn't...
Robby
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:42:39 PM
IP: spider-we012.proxy.aol.com
**RP HERE**
The Ravens, Wilek, DX, Miriam, Big Jake, and several other RP members are having a meeting in the Crown Point Town Hall to discuss battle plans for defeating Guod. "All our people are fully armed, supplied, and ready," Doug says. "We just have to find him." "He has to be somewhere nearby," Agent Rho speculates. "I've sent out search parties to scan the area. Hopefully we will find him very soon." "Yeah," DX agrees. "In the meantime I'm going to insist that everyone in our forces takes the special mystic-bio-mechanical vaccination T-Loco, Jess, Orion, Lathrop, the Administrator, Gubio, and I have created. It'll prevent the enemy Borg from assimilating us." "Great idea," Kitainia says. "Now let's decide how our forces are going to be set up." So that the plans will remain secret for now, she flicks on a projector that covers the RP transmission and shows her making a post.
**END RP BIT**
Hi everybody. Sorry I wasn't in here over the weekend. First I didn't have much to talk about, then the CR went down. I don't know what happened, I'm pretty sure it didn't go down because it got too big. The room's survived being over 700K before, and it was only about 500K Friday night. Anyway, I'm just glad it's back up. Sorry if I miss your topic, if you want me to respond to it just remind me what it was and I will. :) On to replies.
The Gathering: Glad everyone who went had such a good time. Judging by what Doug's told me, it sounds like it was a lot of fun. I'm really upset I didn't get to come, at least I have pictures and Gathering diaries to tell me what went on. Hope I can come next year, I've never been to Orlando before. The Gathering would make a great excuse to visit Disney World, with or without all of you coming along. :)
Kaioto: I saw Doug's picture of Lexy. You are one heck of a lucky man. :) Hope you two enjoy your time together that I know is coming soon.
Wyrmwolf: Great! I can hardly wait for it. :)
Kennedy Assassination: I know who did it. But I'm not saying. <grin> Personally, I'm willing to accept the official explanation for the deed. I wasn't born when Kennedy was alive, my parents never liked him, and I don't really care who killed the guy or why. Guess it has more value as a mystery.
**BEGIN SPOILERS/COMMENTS FOR NEW EP**
Re-Emergence: This was a pretty good episode. I liked the plot and the interaction between characters, especially Goliath with Xanatos and Demona with Angela. It's good that we're finding out what happened in the unresolved battles, I was expecting a lot of damage to occur in Guatemala. Good development on Zaphiro. I wonder who Oro is and wonder if he has any connection to Harthoth or Thailog. Hope we see more of him and the Pack in Part 2.
I only had one really major complaint about this episode. That was Obsidiana's survival. I agree with Airwalker that her going into stone sleep for a long time to recuperate is stretching the concrete cure-all a lot. Gargoyles don't hibernate, and using this to erase her death feels very deus ex machina. Zafiro and Obsidiana had to take on Hutzi, Catcarba or whatever his name is, and two Aztec shee knights, I doubt they could have both survived such powerful fay's attacks. Oh well, they did, and they're good characters, so I'm not going to complain much (wonder if they managed to take any of the bad guys down). I just hope that with other battles where the odds were clearly stacked WAY against the good guys (example- Queen Florence Island) they don't get a Marvel-style deus ex machina escape from death instead of a realistic result.
Ed: I'm also curious about the Pendragon cast. Maybe they can save Brooklyn and co. a trip and check on the Caledonians. Hope we see them again before the season ends.
Airwalker: Good comments on the latest episode. I think that
the Guatemalan clan's rain forest may still be in danger even with Alex owning it, though. You may remember that in The Green Vogel was cutting it down without Renard's knowledge, and Alex is just a kid. A powerful kid sorcerer, yes, but that doesn't mean he can protect the rain forest easily from New York. He's also not really in charge of Cyberbiotics, so someone may damage the forest without his okay. Or someone not from Cyberbiotics could do it. One never knows.
Graeme and Lucy: I hope that there's plans for them to reveal their species to each other in TGS. Can't really see them becoming good Internet friends without it. But if they never find out, that's ok as well. <shrug>
All in all, the episode gets 8/10. Pretty good job, TGS Staff.
**END SPOILERS AND COMMENTS ON NEW TGS EP**
Gunjack: Yes, Kaioto was elected CR Sage. :)
Paul: I don't think you missed any of my posts, or Doug's. He'll be making one later with his Lunar comments.
World Clans: I suspect that one of them has to be the Chinese clan that looks like dragons. Siberian and Hawaiian clans seem like the most likely possibilities out of the ones mentioned by David G. I also think that an Indonesian clan might exist (winged "vampire-like" creatures have been sighted over there, after all).
Okay, that's all for now. Look for reviews of Wild Wild West and Big Daddy later this week. See y'all next post.
Kitainia - [dierdre34@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:21:41 PM
IP: pool-207-205-237-237.dlls.grid.net
Ok. If Shatner was born a Canadian citizen does that mean that anyone not born in America can't run for preisdenicy ? Example : I was born in Holland. So if I wanted to run for President, I couldn't but i was born in a different country ?
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:21:38 PM
IP: 98a929d4.ipt.aol.com
Brain Thietje- Near as I can tell, the episode is up.
Gunjack- I *AM* on vacation! It was during the trip home from the Gathering that I realized Shatner could be president!
Paul Allen Nathans- I have no clue what caused the room to crash, I wasn't here for it.
Shatner for president- Its scary because he coulda become president if he wanted to, except for one thing. He was born a Canadian citizen. By law, he can't be President. Pooie...
Anyhoo, thats about it for now... Gotta go type up a detailed Gathering summary for S8...
**RP**
Jim Iza Noying and Tina stare up at the giant Butterfly god, BOB. The butterfly is not ammused.
"JIM! THAT PARTY SUCKED."
"Well its not my fault! I was set to do a not going to the gathering party in the CR, and then you dragged me here! Any guests that would have arrived here went there, and besides, this is ANTARCTICA! You can't have a party in a place like this!"
"NO EXCUSE! I HIRED YOU TO THROW ONE OF YOUR LEGENDARY PARTIES. AND YOU FAILED."
"Well, sorry about that. Can I leave now?"
"YES. YOU MAY GO."
"Thanks."
"TO THE NEXT DIMENSION!"
SUddenly, the forty short guys in small robes pull out their daggers and aim them at Jim.
"So you're going to kill me? For throwing a lousy party?"
"NO, I AM GOING TO SEND YOU TO THE NEXT DIMENSION."
Jim rolls his eyes.
"I don't know what's worse, that he's going to have me killed or that his dialouge is being written by Saban..."
Robby
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:00:22 PM
IP: spider-wm081.proxy.aol.com
***More comments and Spoilers for new ep***
Hmm, I wonder if Hartoth and Oro are one and the same? When Brook last saw him, it was during the same time period, I wonder if Hartoth is trying to get his revenge on Brook's clan because, to him, Brooklyn just got "rid" of Apep, in Egypt. I also wanted to mention that, wouldn't it be better if Sata didn't go on the trip, and we just had the trio, and C.O.Y.O.T.I. (sp?);) that would be something, wouldn't it?
oops, gotta go!
***END SPOILERS AND POST****
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 08:13:23 PM
IP: 1cust176.tnt2.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
I'M BACK! Welcome home to all the Gathering goers! I passed the hotel on my bus last night but they wouldn't let me stop :( I hope everyone had fun, it's obvious you did. I probably won't be able to go next year for the same reason, but there is always hope!
Now I get to tell the tragic tale of why I hate buses! We left from A&M at 1:30 pm on Sunday and didn't get home until midnight! Why you ask? Our freakin' bus broke down! It was like something you see in the movies! We had only been driving for thirty minutes when the new radiator blew. 100 degrees outside and no air conditioner... we waited for the new bus an hour. This very nice couple brought their Van and transported all 30 girls to a local church down the road to wait, but since I was supposed to be a sacrificing officer I had to stay with four others to watch the luggage on the road.... the new bus didn't come for three more hours! Almost had heat stroke! But now I'm here and damn happy about it! On a nicer note... I was awarded All American Dancer, Kick Company, and Dance Company! I guess the camp wasn't a total waste after all! The food was good... :)
****TGS SPOILERS****
World Trip? Awesome! I'm glad Brooklyn got to go instead of Goliath cause he'll probably get into more than one situation having to avoid telling what he knows of his Timedancing. I really hope we see Meryt, Isfet, Harthoth, and Apep. They're such well developed characters! So the Pack is back... how long has it been? Who the **** is Oro? Something tells me Harthoth is involved in all of this. Can't wait til next week... wait, this isn't the season finale is it? Anyway, wonderful ep!
****END SPOILERS****
I have to go do some shopping and this is my last week of that f***ing SAT class... Lots of Love! OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Monday, June 28, 1999 07:56:14 PM
IP: usr12-dialup297.mix1.irving.cw.net
I was wondering, what month and day will the Gathering in Orlando be ? Because next year I'll be 16 and I was thinking of throwing a Sweet 16 birthday party at the Gathering.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 07:41:40 PM
IP: 98a929d4.ipt.aol.com
Hey, Greg Weisman posted in the Gargoyles Comment Room! I think he made a very good suggestion: Some people should post commentaries on the Gathering somewhere. ;-)
Blue Caeru
Monday, June 28, 1999 06:10:16 PM
IP: spider-wo033.proxy.aol.com
quickie> other locations? How about South america? Mexico would be Ideal. There are some moutian spaces that are totaly hidden. Heck there is even unexplored jungle areas!
later hopefully more tonight.
Ironwolf
Monday, June 28, 1999 04:32:45 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-189.cha.bellsouth.net
***WARNING! DIS CONNECT DEATH WITH EXTREME VIOLENCE AND POOR LANGUAGE!***
** Deuce walks in, eyes flaming. He makes a beeline for DC. **
That wasn't funny, asshole. You know what you did? *DC shakes his head*
I logged onto the Internet last night, trying to check my email and the CR. I get booted off before I get a chance to do anything. ** Deuce takes out a hammer and nail and nails DC's earlobes to the floor. **
Then, once I manage to connect — at 28.8 kbps — Netscape fritzes.
** As Deuce speaks, he begins inserting electrodes deep into DC's skin. **
But I manage to log on. Email goes OK — *electrode* — CR goes OK... but it's been cleared funny — *electrode* — and then I try to log on to AOL to chat with Robby about what I thought was an error of his. (It wasn't).
Robby's not online, but you know who was? *DC nods fearfully* You know, eh? Catherine. My one and only, and the one who I haven't chatted live with in over two months. *electrode* I start typing an IM, and then... Netscape dies, setting off AOL, Winamp, and Metapad. *three electrodes in various sensitive spots*
By the time I get back on, Catherine's gone. *electrode*
** Deuce hooks up the electrodes to wires, which are then attached to a big Honda generator. He cranks the generator to its highest setting and fires it up. DC's screams linger. **
***END WHOLLY DESERVED DEATH!***
Heh-heh. I'm baaaaack.... Hope everyone had fun at the Gathering (those who went, that is). Would have beent here if I had a couple grand to spare (would've have to pay for my mom, too). :-P
I had the weirdest dream last night... Elisa was trying to convince Arianna that her outfit was too revealing, and it was her Hallowe'en Sailor Senshi costume. It looked like they were in Elisa's office, but it had stone walls like the Aerie. I'm a screwed-up individual, I know.
Gathering 2K: ORLANDO?!?!?!?!?! **Deuce says a really nasty word** Great. Well, maybe I'll win the lottery. Hold on, I'm too young to play. Great.
Robby> ["We could end up with President Shatner."] *ROTFL at the thought* Just imagine: "I... did not HAVE... sexual relaTIONS... with... that... WOMAN."
Arianna> Leonard Nimoy for President! Whoo-hoo! 8-)
JFK: It was the Mob. They patterned the assassination after Lincoln's, and they did it for their own reasons. The government had nothing to do with it. :-| That's what they told me to say, anyway.
Well, I'm dead tired... while y'all were at the Gathering, I was out ATVing with my dad near the place where my great-grandfather (my namesake, Simon Crowley) homesteaded over ninety years ago. Very much fun, but quite tiring. So I bid y'all adieu until next time.
** leaves, stepping over DC's smoking corpse. He drags the generator with him. **
Deuce - [deuce@softhome.net]
Monday, June 28, 1999 04:15:10 PM
IP: 198.161.203.25
Hi everyone.
I got great news....**hugs Robby, Kaioto, Liz-chan, and Coyote** I'm going to the Gathering next year in Orlando ! Actually only my dad and I are going since we were the only ones that actually knew and watched Gargoyles.
Anway, I had this little idea for a clan. How about a clan in America but not in a city. Think...western america. Mountains.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 03:17:25 PM
IP: 98ce5597.ipt.aol.com
THE GATHERING WAS GREAT!!! The only problem was that I was stuck in the Houston. We came in at about 9:30 a.m. and didn't leave until 9:50. The first time we rescheduled,we were transfered to a commuter flight which was later canceled. While we were there, we met a guy named Ray Muldoon who was a member of the Presidential Club. Since he was allowed to bring in two other members with him, he invited Mike and myself up there. It's a club that a lot of rich people join that gives them free drinks a comfortable places to sit down to wait for your first class flight. It also had a special reservation system that allows people to get flights others couldn't get. So arrived to Houston in Coach and arrived to Dallas in First Class. Too bad our flights home couldn't be first class.
So we arrive at the hotel at around midnight and met Greg Weisman and Thom Adcox Hernandez in the lobby. I then put my luggage in the room and watch some Japanese animation for about an hour before going to bed.
The next day was great. Of course if you were there I don't need to say that. That auction was fun but I'm still having a little trouble believing that I bought that "In The Key of Gargoyles" CD for $100.
During the Ball I got to talk with Thom for a while and had my picture taken with him and Greg.
Man, that was cool. Now I gotta figure a way to get to Orlando next year.
Tim Phipps
Monday, June 28, 1999 03:03:23 PM
IP: s15-onawa.pionet.net
****TGS SPOILERS****
Awesome episode. It's great that we are finally discovering what happened in the rest of the world when the Unseelie attacked. The action was very well done and the story was entertaining throughout. I can't wait for part two.
****END SPOILERS****
Does anybody know of a free webspace provider that allows you to upload files of any size (1MB+)?
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, June 28, 1999 02:43:45 PM
IP: kam-53-0136.direct.ca
Don't worry, Ed. I'll mention the P word for you. It's time for a Pendragon episode, at least a cameo, maybe Hudson and the Twins watching 'Camelot' on TV. Come on, give us something! :)
NEW EPISODE SPOILERS
Hi folks. I read the new ep last night. Pretty good. I liked it better than the wedding (which I didn't like as much as the people who liked it, but didn't hate as much as the people who hated it). My comments for now are only a little related to the plot, but I don't want to spoil the surprise for anybody. In the Darkest Hour, we learned that there were 12 clans of gargoyles left in the world. In this week's episode, we learned that Madoc hit 20 locations on the earth. I've decided it would be fun to play "WHERE ARE THE GARGOYLES" that exciting game where contestants compete for completely ephemiral cash and prizes by trying to guess where the other 10 gargoyle clans are (Actually, there may only be 9, the Labrinth Clan might count for one seperate from the Manhattan Clan)
First, let's do some elemination.
20 locations- 10 = 10 (Manhattan, London, Scotland, Guatamala, Australia, New Olympus, Africa, Arizona, that other place where Grandmother and Raven lived - which I can't remember now-, and Prague)
Now, the requirements for a Gargoyle clan are:
(a) somewhere with variable altitudes - there's probably not a Sahara clan.
(b) a source of food.
(c) Isolation or a place to hide.
(d) open space. Gargoyles are claustrophobic.
Also, it's unlikely that there's another clan in any major city in America, since they would probably have been noticed. That's not a sure thing, though. Demona stayed hidden for a long time, as did the Paris clan before the Revolution.
Here are my guesses, based on logic and series hints.
1 - the Sanctuary in the Himilayas (sp?)
2 - Somewhere in the French Alps - assuming Etolie wasn't the only survivor, the Alps are the logical place to flee.
3 - Hawaii or somewhere similar.
4 - The Netherlands, these would be surviving 'Trolls.'
5 - Siberia - very isolated, and gargoyles are more resistant to cold than humans.
6 - Alaska
7 - Elsewhere in Japan or Asia - The Tengu clan never really rejoined the Ishimura clan in Timedancer, so they might have survived seperately.
8 - Africa - It's a big place. The African clan would probaby be near the Middle East, survivors of ancient Egypt.
9 - Wales - just maybe. If the Wyvern clan's survivors fled to the Calcidonian forest, then the survivors of various English clans might have taken refuge in the more superstitous lands of the Welsh.
10 a - Avalon - I'm not sure whether Madoc was counting them or not. If so, all my numbers are off by one.
10 b - Peru - The mountains make it some of the most inaccessable land in South America, and there's a strong native culture that would probably offer shelter to 'Mountain Spirits' This clan woudl be similar to the Guatamalan clan.
Anybody else interested in hazzarding a guess? Someone should try to collect them, then we can see how accurate (or not) we all were as the season unfolds.
I'll also throw in a comment about the survival chances of the 'lost' clans. A lot depends on the level of technology and/or magic they had at their disposal. A clan with a resident mage has an edge over one without. The only thing the other gargoyles really have going for them is 'home court advantage.' They'll know the territory and how best to use it to their advantage. On the other hand, Madoc's forces seemed to be generally calculated to be about twice what his enemies could muster. A clan without access to iron weapons would be in serious trouble. With iron, though, the odds improve dramatically, since a gargoyle takes a lot of killing, but a Faerie can be put down with one or two good shots from, say, an iron sword.
END SPOILERS - and really long post.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, June 28, 1999 01:39:51 PM
IP: pppa48-fortworthb12-2r524.saturn.bbn.com
***SPOILERS FOR ‘RE-EMERGENCE PART ONE’***
(Prologue: I’m not even going to mention the ‘P’ word lest I insult any of the staff members. Besides. I’ve said it already loads. And I wouldn’t want to dampen the mood…).
This episode was fantastic!
The characterisations were tight throughout, and I was over the moon to see some real Goliath stuff in the ‘re-emergence’ scene with Xanatos. We know Goliath has this edge of despair in such situations, as we saw in AWAKENING; who can blame him? It returns here, but Xanatos replies in form, but his words have a true meaning to the characters, the plot and the bigger picture. That’s what ‘Gargoyles’ was about. That’s why this is special.
There’s far more, and I scarcely know how to begin. So let’s pick up on the ‘world-tour take two’ scenario that has been set up. This is genius, and in more ways that one. Firstly, it cuts away the baggage of so many characters, and leaves the series able to concentrate on the 5 travellers and the people they interact with. This seems so extremely important to me, and I largely discussed this last Monday. But there’s a far more subtle reasoning which is great. It’s bringing the Trio back together.
Sense of balance is one of the flaws I can most often and most easily level at the TGS staff. The scale’s too big, we don’t see enough Goliath, too many Unseelie stories, not enough Pendragon (whoop!). Last season we saw Lexington isolated to a ridiculous end in the clan, cut off from his brothers, turned into a cybernetic monster and duped by a mad businessmen-by-day, who’s apparently one of the most powerful beings on the planet, and responsible for a thousand times more misery that Demona. And then we see Broadway getting mated. Brooklyn’s been off forty years. It would be easy to have the clan divided. The trio are gone, that’s it. But in putting these characters together, to grow together, to develop together. All I can say is, GREAT job. I can’t wait for further stories…
As for Coyote, that was an amusing little interlude and I was gratified to see some reference and speculation as to what could have become of the technology. As far as I can see, the only active known-enemy to have the technology – and also presumably have the Ultra-Pack employed – would be Thailog. None of the other high-fliers (Xanatos, Fox) would have any motive. And the reference to ‘Project Thailog’ made me suddenly think ‘hey…’. Other possibilities seem to be a new character. Or… maybe Harthoth? Demona wouldn’t hire the Pack to capture her own daughter, and Renard is dead. Maybe Vogel, in some capacity.
Oh… yes, YES, yesyes, YES, YES, YESYESYES… *ahem*. Sorry about that :} Love the Guatemala stuff… Obsidianna’s survival is unlikely, but I can see room for explanation. We shall see…
Oro, hm? This is a mite over-familiar a scenario, but delightfully the episode took it in its stride and incorporated the obvious BUSHIDO parallel into the mysticism. And maybe that’s the point. It *is* a 2-part story after all.
The plot is clever. It is two plots, but the second part could conceivably draw them together. We see Demona and Oro, and the CYOTI brigade. And the Ultra-Pack but I’ve a feeling they’re connected to one of the current plots anyway.
All in all a fabulous episodes. Characterisations, dialogue, size, description… all perfect. Unfortunately, it seems likely this is only a 2-part story, since the series is supposed to end sometime after 4 July and tallying Part 2 and ‘Seeds of Change’ which Kathy mentioned recently, we’d go beyond that. And that probably means no more of Arthur’s team. *sigh*
Anyway... can't wait for part two!!
9/10
Airwalker: I imagine Zaffiro, having been living in fear and on a knife-edge for weeks would be like Goliath in AWAKENING... fairly irrational, and just wanting to end his trauma. Unlike Goliath, he's not suicidal. He's just taking a break and a chance to mourn by himself. I think for him, it's a scenario of "any excuse".
***END SPOILERS/COMMENTS***
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Monday, June 28, 1999 01:15:31 PM
IP: p13-shelduck-gui.tch.virgin.net
[Stephen sort of rolls into the CR, taking a moment to hand off his suitcase full of goodies to a new pal - who might become part of the CR Security Staff - named Ogre, before smiling wearily to the room...]
Greetings all... through two crammed flights and a late night supper at Denny's and a MUCH needed 8 hourse of sleep, I'm home.
First off, the Gathering was a blast, both by attendance and participation. Yes things were a bit muddled (because the staff didn't anticipate how long things would go), but it was a great event to see and hear. It was really cool meeting a lot of you in here face-to-face; Hudson (from the S8 Chatroom), Patrick, Crzy, Starsinger, Mandi, Coyote (Yes, I will work hard to get my novel out!), Green Baron, JEB, Robby, Tony "Gambit", Agamemnon, Eliza Maza and her friends from Germany and Switzerland, Siryn and a lot more that I can't remember right now...
But the highlights were just as incredible! I was helping Spike set up the displays for the Art Show (btw, I was very pleased to meet you, Bill and Ryan, hon!), and Greg just walks in. I was in shock! But I recovered enough to shake his hand, and later I did get a chance to talk seriously about writing in the professional realm (although it was nearly until 6 am in the morning on Sunday). I got my decals from Coyote (Put him and me together, and you've got a pair of HUGE dudes! Anyone wanna wrassle Tag Teams?), and got to meet Tim and Christine Morgan in the flesh (was such a treat!) and their little one, Becca! Sooooo Kawaii!
A good number of my fellow TGS Staffers showed up as well: Shauntell, Coyote, Mandi, Durid, Taleweaver, Greg Bishansky, JEB, Siryn, Beth "Kyryn", and while the TGS panel wasn't as big as I'd hoped (I told the Orlando group that if we have one in 2000, we must have it EARLIER IN THE EVENT!), we did hammer out some salient points for Season 3.
I got to try out for the radio show - the most nerve-wracking three minutes of my life! - but, it was a treat to read for Thom Adcox and Greg... and I made the cut! I had a nice part, and of course I can't explain details, but I will say that I got to exercise my New-York/Brooklyn accent! :) Everyone that made the show did a damn fine job, and it was a real feather for me in my memories of the Dallas Gathering (and Hey! It also got me a kiss on the cheek from CrzyDemona... to which I promptly turned red and did my Beaky Buzzard impression. <grin>).
Got a Bronx and a Demona Action figure in the auction (and I think I proved I could be a maniac, since I let the rest of the bidders know I was NOT leaving that room without that Bronx! :) Got them signed by Greg, and also got a box of Skybox Series I trading cards as well. Thom and Greg both signed one of the cards each. I also got an Illuminati Pin from Sabledrake Ent. and a nifty Broadway mug!
I'm going to cut this short, since I don't want to cram the CR with a long post, but I'll have more to say later.
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:48:26 PM
IP: m150.ieway.com
Oh, I forgot something (well, I actually forgot a lot of stuff. This I just happened to remember.>
Robby> Shatner for President? What's pathetic is...there are enough dumb trekkers who would actually vote for him. Of course, the smart ones would do the right thing. They would vote for Leonard Nimoy (Spock). :)
OK, I go. Bye-bye.
Arianna
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:17:49 AM
IP: hil-qbu-ppy-vty93.as.wcom.net
Hi all! Welcome back from the Gathering to all who went...Next year, with any luck, I'll manage to go.
Wow -- they wiped the room TWICE yesterday? I'm impressed. And annoyed. I missed top ten both times, because I was working. Fun stuff. :)
Well, I suppose I'll have a real post later on...I'm incredibly tired (I was up really late drawing -- or rather *trying* to draw. :). Maybe later, I'll even try extra hard to make sense. :)
Again, I'm glad to see everyone safely return(ing). Later!
Lady Arianna of Annwn
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:11:33 AM
IP: hil-qbu-ppy-vty93.as.wcom.net
Robby - I just read your comments on the Radio play. It sounds like a lot of fun. Wish I could have seen/heard it.
Jenniren
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:08:13 AM
IP: user-2ivf7a4.dialup.mindspring.com
**COMMENTS ON CURRENT TGS EPISODE**
It's good to see that we are finally getting some concentration on the other parts of the world that were effected by the Unseelie War. I was curious about what exactly happened to other clans and places that were brought up in THE DARKEST HOUR 1 & 2 but then were forgotten about for three weeks.
I do have to say first that I was a little disappointed that we didn't get a PENDRAGON episode. It's been a long time since they got an episode completely to themselves. There are a lot of good characters there and it's a shame that we aren't seeing more of them.
That said, it's good to see the Guatemala clan. The last time we saw them was a few weeks ago and I was curious as to what the hell happened to them. It's good to see some actual impact there with their pyramid home completely destroyed. I wasn't happy at first about the "death" of Obsidiana but it did seem very realistic that someone would die. In fact, it seems less realistic that either of them would have survived since 2 gargoyles vs 4 Fey is an impossible fight. I was disappointed however when Obsidiana recovered from "death" though. Ishimura took a lot of casualties, London took a couple of casualties, Manhattan somehow escaped without anyone getting killed but they had 16 Gargoyles, 4 mutates, 2 cyborgs, 2 trained humans in battle armor, a halfling, and a quaterling. Guatemala had 2 and they both got out of it alive?
And the way she did it, with that weeks long stone sleep, isn't that kind of stretching the concrete cure-all? Without the pendants on, shouldn't the Guatemalan clan be like any other Gargoyles, with their internal clock's working just fine, turning them to stone at sunrise and flesh at night?
Also Zafiru's leaving his rookery behind, it seemed like a big stretch. I mean, at that point he thinks that he is the only one left, his home is destroyed, and while the Unseelie have disbanded, there is no guarantee that some of them won't come back just for kicks or for revenge. So he decides to leave his children completely unguarded so that he can go on a trip? Even for a few days, if it was me and I had gone through everything that he did, I wouldn't be willing to leave those eggs alone for a single minute.
There were a lot of interesting things in this episode. The whole plot with Oro. It's obvious that he's talking about the same clan in Guatemala that Angela knows. I mean how many clans are there in Guatemala with only four members and a pyramid? And he's obviously lying about his connection. What is his angle? He gave a good story but if you really analyze it, he basically offered someone he thinks is a human being control over an entire clan. Not only that but he offers to open up an entire clan and rookery to biological study. Given the history of human/gargoyle relations and the fact he doesn't know much about Dominique Destine, how can he do that? There is obviously something going on with him.
(Anyway, the Guatemala clan is on land that is basically owned by Alex Xanatos. So it's not like they are going to have any more problems with logging companies or stuff like that.)
Also Angela takes such care in sneaking the Mayan Amulet out of the castle and then leaves it behind. I understand why she did that, but it will be funny to see how she'll explain it to Goliath when Zafiru arrives. That is, if she escapes the Pack. It's good to see them back. Although it would be nice to get a picture of how the new Ultra-pack looks. All those pictures in the last episode helped so much in giving me a solid idea of how certain characters (Andrea and Liz) look.
I hope that we see some of the places we've seen in TIMEDANCER on the Aftermath Quest that the Trio and Sata are on. The Sanctuary in Nepal (from TIMEDANCER: MENAGERIE) would be a great place to see. And Meyrt in Egypt would be another.
I do have to ask: Is Merlin going to be returning to New York to become Alex's nanny? It makes sense since Owen does have a full time job on top of everything else and it would be a good idea to have a trustworthy individual with magical powers on hand when Owen is busy. But some time has passed and the last we heard of him, he was in London. So is he still taking the job or not?
Also are there any plan's to let Graeme know that Lucy is a gargoyle in London, and to let Lucy know that Graeme is a gargoyle in New York?
**END OF COMMENTS ON CURRENT TGS EPISODE**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:08:08 AM
IP: 235.new-york-28-29rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
Paul Allen Nathans - You can get the first post-wipe CR by clicking on the Last Week's Comment Room link at the top of this page. No one has really explained what happened to the CR before that, though there have been speculations that it just got too big. I also got the blank white screen when I tried to access the CR Sunday morning. Other people got the same thing, so it's not just you. Wingless also reported a problem with both the S8 and TGS chat rooms.
Robby - [That means if Shatner wanted to and he had no real competition, he would get a ton of popularity votes and votes from every Trekkie out there and... We could end up with President Shatner.]
Could he really be any worse than the one we have? :Þ Actually I think they'd be frighteningly similar. I feel ill. It all seems too believable. 8Þ
I haven't read the new ep yet. I'm looking forward to reading what Jackal and Hyena are up to but I think I'll wait for Part 2.
Jenniren
Monday, June 28, 1999 10:00:57 AM
IP: user-2ivf7a4.dialup.mindspring.com
Just one question about "Re-emergence Part One:"
Was Brooklyn channeling Ben Kenobi when he said that line about the precision of magical energy blasts?
Got to get ready for class now, bye!
Blue Caeru
Florida, United States
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:59:56 AM
IP: spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com
First: What the heck happened here!? I tried to get in Sunday Morning for another post only to get 'Document Contains No Data'. I tried various times after while reading various Fanfiction on various Video Games, and got the same message. Then I find on 'Last Week's Comment Room' something about a wipe, or whatever. What'd I miss!? What caused the wipe!? Todd, Robby, someone answer, please.
Doug and Kitania-Did I miss any of your posts before the wipe/crash whatever? If so, summarize the parts pertaining to aspects I commented on, please, or, if you have the time, and feel like doing so, please retype those parts.
THE GARGOYLES SAGA: RE-EMERGENCE, PART: Cool. I wonder if the Pack still think Madoc's alive and are attempting to cash in on his money offer. If so, too bad for them. That's just a thought, I have other guesses, but as I have LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE to play, and there's nothing immediate I want to talk about, that'll be later.
"This monument is... pathetic. A pitiful attempt to keep Dyne's memory alive."-Ghaleon
LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Monday, June 28, 1999 09:45:22 AM
IP: 35.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
Hi all!!
Wow two wipes in the same day and I miss the top ten on both occasions*Snaps fingers"Rats"*:)
***Spoilers for new ep***
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! another multipart story,Next Monday can't come soon enough:)The autopilot for the plane CYOTI got my attention right away comming so close after the discussions in here and in S8 about the season one character bible(the Gargoyles collective subconcious that I've heard about seems to be kicking in again:))Great stuff TGS!!
***End TGS Spoilers***
Goodnight all!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, June 28, 1999 07:41:23 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74
If the Illuminati were behind JFK's assassination in the Gargoyles Universe, then here's my theory for the motive: Duval, as a former acquaintance of King Arthur's, became increasingly disgusted with the popular nickname for Kennedy's administration, viewing it as a jackdaw dressing itself in eagle's feathers.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, June 28, 1999 06:50:58 AM
IP: 208-19-232-218.dialup-stl.primary.net
The weekend was way too short. The company was wonderful. and I made it home safely. Tommorrow world
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, June 28, 1999 01:33:01 AM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net
Good to see you all back!
***Spoilers and Comments on new Ep***
Cool! She didn't die! Yay! The clan is finally showing some interest in what happened to the other gargoyle clans from around the world! What will happen to Angela? Oh, I'm soo mad at myself now! I knew it was going to be a two parter, but noooooo, I just had to go read the first part, didn't I? Oh, never mind! This is just a two parter, right? Not a three parter, I hope?
***END***
Sees ya'll tomarrow!
Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:55:19 AM
IP: 1cust30.tnt4.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net
*Valentine strides into the CR looking like crap. His hair are bloodshot, his suit is torn, and a small trickle of blood is leaking from a cut over one eyebrow. Despite all this, his eyes are alert as flops down in his favorite chair*
Home, at last.
The last ten days have been pretty rough, but I’ve survived. My grandparents’ 50th anniversary was pretty cool, but I have Demona Incarnate for a grandmother... *shudder*... Ugh! If I ever have to spend time around her, it will be too soon. She spent most of her life as a schoolteacher, and it sometimes seems that she’s forgotten what fun is. :P
Anyway, we went straight to ACU from there. Camp was moderately brutal throughout, but it was still great. Met new friends, new enemies, played pool, screwed around w/ eleven-year-old fire extinguishers, danced in fountians, flipped a butterknife for several hours, and sang till my voicebox fell out.:) There were some serious downers, but I feel that I got a heck of a lot more out of it than I put in.
Thence to The Gathering, and like Christi said, it had its ups and downs, too. I missed all of friday night, along with the lectures on saturday morning. Also, the first segment of the GGG was moved to friday night, so I missed getting to rock down w/ Iskander. I got to play in the fey segment (DIE, Oskar!), but it only lasted an hour or two before the radio show auditions/practice broke it up. Still, Mrs. Morgan, you do one HECK of a GURPS game, and I was honored to have been there. Also, if any of my fellow fey are out there, it was great.
The radio show was great, especially all the “special effects”. Good job on the pained grunts, guys!;) I also had a great time checking out the awesome art. Speaking of art, would someone w/ a scanner PLEASE make available a copy of the filkbook cover? I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: there is nothing better than Demona dressed in a floozy barmaid’s outfit.;)
For those of you wondering, I was the guy dressed in dress shirt and black pants, with a blue tie and a briefcase. I had a blast meeting all of you, especially JEB, Green Baron (Great job on the Vogel costume), and Greg Xanatos. Sorry about not getting to do the game, Greg, but my parents were in a hurry. Both of them strongly disapproved of me sitting around watching shapely young lasses prance around in garg and fairy costumes, so I was in a bit of hot water last night. Then I had church this morning, so I missed all of the last day. Sorry, Mrs. Morgan; I was really looking forward to Antarctica...
Overall, I’m glad I went. Thanks a lot, guys, and I hope to see you next year!
*Valentine’s eyes flicker as he downloads the week of posts that he’s missed*
Whoa, guys, what happened to the last friggin’ week? Darn it, I was hoping to catch up...oh well...:(
Robby - Buddy, I think it’s time for you to take a vacation.:) I can see that! Ooo, talk about your creativity demons...:)
JFK Assasination - I should have known that this would come up...:) I too have visited the spot, and I seem to remember the angles being all wrong for the shot to have come from the third floor of the book building, along with the fact that you CAN NOT get three aimed shots out of a bolt-action in 2 1/2 seconds. Still, to settle this arguement, I propose a test: we randomly select five JFK assasination theorists (Two pro-Oswald, two Anti-Oswald, and one Undecided), and have them follow the route one by one. Then we can have some loony soul set up on the third floor of the book repository with a .30 caliber rifle and scope, and take potshots at the crackpots as they drive buy. If he can duplicate the particulars, that should settle the issue, and at the least it will rid us of a few worthless induhviduals...:)
Serriously, I don’t think anyone will EVER know what really happened. What it comes down to is that everyone already decided what they believed years ago, and nothing will convince them otherwise. If some guy showed up in Washington tomorrow with a briefcase full of hard copy about the true villians behind the JFK shooting, half the country would hail him as a stalwart champion of truth, and the other half would denounce him as a master of lies second only to Lucifer.
Welcome to America. :)
Quick question before I go: are more weeks ever going to be added to the archive? I was planning on reading the entire archive, but I noticed that the most recent one was january... Also, was Kaioto elected CR Sage or not?
Anyways, My parents are griping at me to get off the computer and get to bed, so see ya
tomorrow...
Gunjack Valentine
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:53:12 AM
IP: spider-wc044.proxy.aol.com
Would someone please tell me how to access the new Gargoyles Saga episode? the current episode page hasn't been updated yet and I can't figure out how to access the new episode.
Brian Thietje - [thietje@aol.com]
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:47:14 AM
IP: spider-tk071.proxy.aol.com
**enters ... more like staggers ... into the room, taking the candle before his automaton from Thursday night can do the job, switching it out himself.**
That'll do, 'bot. **folds up the robot and tucks it into the corner**
Well, I got back from Dallas at 10pm my time ... was not home until about five to midnight. But damn, did I have a ball!
The main highlight, of course, was meeting every TGS CRazy Clanner that could make it (including my roomies ... GB, Doug, Starsinger, youse are a great bunch of guys! :). Of course, there were others, too ... for instance:
* Okay, so I'm a sucker for a great artist; the highlight of Friday night for me was getting kissed by Spike after presenting the Spike decal to her, shortly before Stephen's beer tasting and fiction reading. (Stephen, sorry ya didn't get to make it through the whole thing, I *am* looking forward to seeing that novel of yours in print, though. :)
* Discovering that G:CM had an in-joke I hadn't even realized existed. Turns out that my having Lexington go to Detroit wasn't far off the mark from real life ... Thom Adcox Hernandez is a Detroit native!!
* The masquerade. The Graeme costume was great, and so were some of the others (most of the women, of course ... who knew so many of them had such great figures to pull off gargess costumes!), but I honestly have to say the costume highlight of the evening was Mandi. You're probably going to get sick of me saying this, but I really appreciate the effort ya put into the Rosanna costume. You certainly outshone me by a long shot. (BTW, I didn't hear about the camera being yours until after you left ... I do certainly hope that someone managed to find it.)
The best part of this, though, was getting some photos posed with Mandi and myself similar to Cyrway's pic titled "Lovers in Wartime" at my Gallery.
*Participating in the radio show, thus proving that I still have a decent set of lungs, enough to put up a workable stage voice. Of course, I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement, so I can't give any details, unfortunately.
*Making Ravyn's tape. Sure, I wasn't allowed to record in the con rooms, but I did manage to get most of the CR posters, not to mention Greg, Thom, Myhr and P. N. Elrod. Plus, it gave me a chance to actually *speak* to Ravyn for once, rather than type out my thoughts, so when she hears it she'll be hearing me completely put my heart on my sleeves ... especially for the ending of it (which was recorded at Dallas-Fort Worth while I was waiting to board the plane).
Thanks to everyone who took the time to put a message on the tape ... GB, Doug, Starsinger, JEB, G"X"B, Mandi, Christine, Spike, Fire Storm, Lady Mystic, Shauntell, Taleweaver, Stephen, et al. (Yes, even you, Robby, even though ya didn't want to I still managed to get a little bit of ya.)
* Speaking of Fire Storm and Lady Mystic ... another highlight for me was *finally* getting to meet you two! Let me know if you're coming up for the Pickerel Tournament, and what day so I'll know whether I'll be here or not. :)
*Making Steve Jackson laugh by showing him my INWO playing shirt. :) (He was also kind enough to autograph the package to my newly acquired copy of Illuminati Y2K.)
But the biggest highlight of them all ... just *being* there. All of you guys are the best! Let's hope we *all* manage to come together in Orlando next year ... *including* Kitainia, Kaioto, Ravyn, and *all* of you that weren't able to be with us this year. You were all in our minds and hearts all weekend.
**finally sets down his dictation tape recorder (which he's been carrying all weekend) at the base of the candle, sitting back in the big chair and fixating for the first time since Thursday. But this time, it's happy fixation again.**
Coyote the Kinda-Sorta-Exhausted Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
City of Sleep, State of Confusion, World o' Hurt
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:34:15 AM
IP: 207.91.254.29
The first thing I saw when I came here tonight was something to the effect of 'Oswald didn't act alone'. I love stuff like this, what some call conspiracy theories (even when they don't really involve conspiracies). I wonder who really was behind the assassination. Maybe it was the Communists (Weren't Oswald and Ruby both Communists?). Maybe it was the Illuminati. Maybe it was Elvis.
Sage Kaioto> <<why do I always have to be the nice guy?>> Because the rest of us are all raving bloodthirsty lunatics out for world domination, and there has to be *some* balance. >:)
Spike> <<Johnny Miller from San Antonio and his Graeme costume, complete with functional wings>> I'll bet it was something to see when he went gliding. :)
TRC> <<It's only a pain when it happens to me during the week . Then reaity and the dream world start to fuse .>> Wow...that, my friend, is the Holy Grail of insanity. You are revered. <bows>
Blue Caeru> <<On your last post when you put, "It's me again, Margaret," it confused me for a moment because that's my first name.>> Heh...actually, that was a reference to a rather odd Ray Stevens song. :)
Robby> <<How did Jim's party in Antarctica go without the host?>> Um...I'm not sure if it's started yet...
Todd> <<I can't help but wonder, though; could it have temporarily gone out of order because of overly long RPing?>> Um...somehow I doubt it, otherwise the impromptu chat session toward the end of that one week (which was probably the longest room on record) would have done the same thing.
**NEW EP SPOILERS**
Hm, so the clan wants to get in touch with the other places that Madoc hit during the Darkest Hour. Good thinking. <in a voice of quiet awe, reserved only for works of technology that are almost holy in their sophistication and design> That plane...*please* tell me there is a picture of it. <back to normal> So there's going to be another World Tour. I think I'm going to enjoy this. :) Coyote (well, *some* dang Coyote or other) is flying the plane?! LOL! <<A ding sounded from behind, as if on cue and Coyote added, "Who wants butter rolls?">> ROTFL! This gets better and better! :D Uh oh...it looks like the Guatemalan gargs didn't fare too well against the Unseelie. :( You know...for some reason, I find this Oro rather suspicious. Hm, this ep is explaining a great deal about gargoyle biology and such. And I wonder who has sicced the Pack on Angela...
**END SPOILERS**
Wilek Nereus
Monday, June 28, 1999 12:12:31 AM
IP: tnt-1-07-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
During the five hour car trip home today I had a terrifying thought upon hearing the song "Raindrops keep falling on my head." I was reminded of an old joke that has Will Shatner singing that song and I realized something.
Shatner is an actor who really has no talent, yet he's been successful in television, movies, radio, music,and he's honestly, one of the moment famous and popular people in America. Everyone may make fun of him, but everyone likes him. And it was thinking about this I realized something.
The are all qualities Reagan had, and more qualities than Jesse Ventura had. And if Reagan could become president,and Ventura could become governor of Minnesota... That means if Shatner wanted to and he had no real competition, he would get a ton of popularity votes and votes from every Trekkie out there and... We could end up with President Shatner.
Scary thought, eh?
Robby
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:52:16 PM
IP: spider-wb053.proxy.aol.com
Top Ten!!!
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:49:44 PM
IP: kam-53-0233.direct.ca
Top Ten!
Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:31:39 PM
IP: spider-wb073.proxy.aol.com
Top ten?
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:29:12 PM
IP: tnt-3-208-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net
VISIT STATION EIGHT! THE *OTHER* GARGOYLES COMMENT ROOM! GREG WEISMAN VISITS THERE! SO SOON AFTER THE GATHERING HE MAY WELL DO SO AGAIN!
Robby
"All right, time for bed." "All right. But first..." "No." "But you primised." *sigh* "ALl right... Jiggilypuff..."
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:28:39 PM
IP: spider-wb012.proxy.aol.com
Top Ten !
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:26:20 PM
IP: 98ce45d1.ipt.aol.com
TOP TEN
kai< :P
Lexy
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:23:50 PM
IP: spider-tf013.proxy.aol.com
This is the first time I've been in the Top Ten! First time for everything.
Brian Thietje - [thietje@wolfenet.com]
Naches, WA, United States
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:23:00 PM
IP: spider-pa033.proxy.aol.com
Top ten twice in the same day :)
Toku Kaioto -CR Sage
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:18:26 PM
IP: 1cust167.tnt2.brockton.ma.da.uu.net
AH gee Dumlao, ya didn't need to wipe the room. It was wiped yesterday! Oh well... Top ten.
Robby
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:16:54 PM
IP: spider-wb072.proxy.aol.com
Sometimes there's more to life than just survival
"Re-Emergence part 1"
Written by Johnathan "Entity" Coutleur
ENJOY!!!
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:14:24 PM
IP: dial-in87.santa-monica.aim-smart.com