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*sigh* Bad news first... Sorry I haven't posted in a couple nights, but it has been really busy around here! I think I know why my computer won't load the whole room. It has something to do with this new server my dad got and it sucks big @$$! I've only gotten from Friday night's posts in the last hour, so sorry if I miss something. :(

Good news... The guy I was telling everyone about... he likes me! That's why I've been gone the last couple nights. Friday I went to a party with him and we talked by the pool for four hours! And I'm going to see him tonight! Ahhh, the sweet wonders of love, I guess I have a date for Homecoming now.

And since I have no idea what's been going on...
Welcome to all newbies and happy belated birthdays to anyone who had one! Those who are going back to school, my condolences :)
SOROW
Sunday, August 29, 1999 04:56:49 PM
IP: dll2b104-15.splitrock.net

Pistoff, Wilek - If you think a chicken running around without a head is gross, once I saw a cat get run over. It went floppity flop all over, back and forth across the road, sometimes becoming airborne, for nearly 2 minutes before it finally stopped and lay still. It looked like it was in the most horrible writhing agony. My mother later told me that that sometimes happens when the neck is broken - neurons keep firing random signals through the spinal chord into the legs, etc. She said the cat probably died as soon as it was hit. But the head wasn't crushed, and I can't help wondering if it was feeling something excruciating all the while it was flopping around.

night walker - [What exactly is dis-connect. is it like when your internet just kicks off, or is it when it simply takes a long time to load, cause I think he is trying to screw up my webtv.]

Yeah. Whenever your connection has a problem it's DC's fault.

"Mummies Alive" - Too bad it wasn't more like "Gargoyles," with accurate depictions of the Egyptian gods and all. But I guess the show's producers figured that would scare the kiddies so we got this sort of comedy thing. I suppose I can forgive them for not making the mummies look like the pictures I've seen in National Geographic though. This image of a blackened thing with half the head caved in and turned to dust insists on sticking in my mind. Real ickypoo, but that's National Geographic for you. My favorite line from the show: "The devourer of souls followed me home one day and now I can't get rid of him." For some reason this line amuses me no end. Go figure.

The color of the day is powder blue... and the image is Roland - because he looks like a dead guy and it seemed appropriate at the time.

Jenniren
Sunday, August 29, 1999 03:51:39 PM
IP: user-2ivf83k.dialup.mindspring.com

I guess short messages are overlooked by most people.
Xanathar-Thanks for noticing me here.

*Sees Valentine sitting at his desk. Walks to him and sits in his lap.* Ah, Distilled Happiness! Could you pour me a glass of that? *Valentine joyfully obliges* To love!

Don't worry. No one has to worry about scaring me, you're not going to.

Now, back to my Distilled Happiness.
Princess Mera
Sunday, August 29, 1999 03:12:12 PM
IP: harding.edu

goodness! you guys are just as nice as i remember! *hugz everybody in the room...whether they like it or not!*

that gargoyle explanation thingummy had me *ROTFLMAO*

now i don't have any excuse not to come back and harass you guys! >:)
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Virtual Insanity
Sunday, August 29, 1999 02:53:37 PM
IP: 98adce7a.ipt.aol.com

It's me, Sarge again. It's been days since I last made a comment here. Oh well, it doesn't really matter I suppose.

I've been doing nothing lately but play my friend's Playstation. I'm hooked so much that I've stopped writing. After I come to realize this I decided it was time to give it back. So now I'm starting to write.

In the meantime I might as well put another top ten, I've so many.

10 explanations Xanatoos gives to explain about the gargoyles on his castle to the press.

10. Those aren't statues. They're hired mimes with paper wings.....
9. (this takes place when the gargoyles wake up) That crakling sound is just my wife trying to fit into her evening gown. (then he gets wapped by Fox)
8. The roars? College interns......
7. I'm sorry, can you please define the word 'are'?
6. Those aren't gargoyles, their manicans featuring a new line of Xanatoos fasion-wear.
5. No, that's just my son burping up his dinner.......yes I know it's a bit of a loud burp for a toddler....
4. Doesn't everybody have one on their castle?
3. What are Gargoyles? You mean those water spouts on the walls? Sure I have some of those....
2. That's just my lunch digesting.....
1. Those roars earlier ago was my wife....it's another one of those months you know...(gets waped again by fox)

Sarge is not related to Marge, but maybe related to Harve, who is a friend of Parge
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, Vermont, United States of America
Sunday, August 29, 1999 02:18:55 PM
IP: spider-tf081.proxy.aol.com

*enters*

OK people, I have some news about Dags and me. We've decided to take things slowly and see how things go. I still like him a lot and want to talk with him more so I'm going to stick with it. I've thought about this more and I think I should have explained myself better and not have so many people think we're a couple. We don't want any of this to end in a big fight because we've found out something about each other that we didn't share earlier in the relationship. Right now we're going to start as really good friends and work from there. :)

I'm glad some people liked my semi-filk song. :)
Mary Flanders
Sunday, August 29, 1999 01:47:59 PM
IP: stk-ts2-h1-37-242.ispmodems.net

OOPS Gomen about that Robby(Anime sweat droplet forms)
yipes did I say gomen? thats japanese for sorry.sorry again. I'm involved with a lot of Anime RPG's

Speaking of Anime WILEK that Xanatos looking Sayian was King Vegeta, Prince Vegeta's deceased father,remember that big pink guy Dodoria said that Freiza destroyed the Sayian home world.

about what I started with a three Aria sisters. It has something to deal with a course I took, the book explained that the reason three is used a lot in stories deals with the Holy Trinity and I wonder do the Weird Sisters appear to the Scandanavians as the Norns and to the Greeks as the Fates? I think I may still have that book.

*********************Begin RP*******************************

The smaller podded landed on a beach far away from the magor dwelling. Meleah took the Language scanner and followed her sisters.
Dostin stared and grunted

"Mimics, they think they are better than us or something"

"Whatever." Caleb yawned

The Sisters walked a little bit nervously towards the castle like struckture.

"Looks like someone sent the welcome wagon,"Karina noted as three women that looked and dressed alike hoverd to them.

"Three of them talk about luck." Tizzy said

"prepare the scanner little sister" Karina said. Meleah fiddled with the device. as the women with the raven like hair spoke first

"Stop! your are not welcome here."
*********************End RP*********************************

JOYRIDERS do you have theme song yet? reading your posts these lyrics jump in my head

the link in my name will lead to a pic of Dostin, Tee-Hee hee I like drawing aliens.

"I get it now. You have the meatballs on top of your head to go with the spagettii inside!" Raye Hino SM
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, August 29, 1999 12:15:49 PM
IP: ts002d08.orl-fl.concentric.net

Oops Again-Forgot my Name, Electronic Mail Address, Color, and Picture. <Turns on loudspeakers and points it at ears.> WAKE UP, YOU DULLARD!!!!! <Turns off loudspeakers.>

Here's the second Message, again.

Oops-Sorry, forgot one part. Jewel, Irina, you both know I checked my Electronic Mail. I wasn't in here lately to see the Posts. I'm not even going to respond to the insult about
Christine/Turandot. I'll deal with that one two when you Reply to my Reply.

"What I have been doing is simply showing everyone that such light exists in all their hearts."-Sophia
XENOGEARS
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 08:41:59 AM
IP: 228.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

Oops-Sorry, forgot one part. Jewel, Irina, you both know I checked my Electronic Mail. I wasn't in here lately to see the Posts. I'm not even going to respond to the insult about Christine/Turandot. I'll deal with that one two when you Reply to my Reply.

"What I have been doing is simply showing everyone that such light exists in all their hearts."-Sophia
XENOGEARS
Anonymous
Sunday, August 29, 1999 08:37:33 AM
IP: 228.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

FINAL FANTASY-For those curious as to why I haven't defended FINAL FANTASY TACTICS as being a fighting Game, I have. I know its no fighting Game. The defense and all the rest was settled way back, the discussions are outside the Comment Room now. Well, whatever's left, the two people I'm talking two know what I mean, or at least one does. Notice: Jewel, check your Electronic Mail, please.

Doug and Kitainia-Have you read any of the LUNAR Fanfictions yet? If so, what do you think of them.

That concludes this, I'm running out of commentary these days. So I may just check in once per week from now on until THE GARGOYLES SAGA gets back up.

"What I have been doing is simply showing people that such light exists in all their hearts."-Sophia
XENOGEARS
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 08:33:45 AM
IP: 228.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

Hi all!!

Boy it's quiet in here tonight,then again it's been a quiet day just like Sunday's should be.

Princess Estra:Welcome back!

Mary re Mambo #5 song:*LOL* good one!:)

Princess Mera:Welcome and congratulations to yourself and Gunjack:)

Fire Storm:I went into Office Depot (I didn't PAY for anything.) and I heard some GREAT news! The B@#%^ that yelled at LM was practicailly FIRED because she was a b@#%$. SHE'S GONE!
The OTHER, WORSE b#$%^ quit, and rumor is that it is because what happened with me!
Isn't that GREAT news!>>hearing news like this makes my day>:)

Oh well back to work tommorow:(

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Sunday, August 29, 1999 07:12:06 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Lord of the Rings> You know people shouldn't be circulating rumours around. There absolutely NO chance of Eowyn being combined with Arwen.

When there's a new rumour you may have heard people should go to either the newsgroup rec.arts.books.tolkien or to the site http://www.tolkien-movies.com/ They're the best sources of rumours and solid information around and they usually know how to distinguish between the two

Other than that it's unfortunately or fortunately believed almost certain that Arwen's role will be expanded. For starters I consider it quite probable that the info provided in the appendix (concerning Aragorn and Arwen's first meeting as well as their engagement in Lorien) will be incorporated in the movie through flashbacks.

Another possibility (though not certainty) is that Arwen will replace Glorfindel in the film. That's how the scene was written when Peter Jackson thought he'd have to write a 2-movie script (rather than a 3-movie one). Now he'll have more time and could possibly include both characters. Assuming he chose to do so.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 04:46:04 AM
IP: athe530-b093.otenet.gr

Wilek-I tried to go to that site with the detailes for the RP but there were no results. Could you possibly maybe create a link for me ? Thanx.

By the way , did anyone usa that Magic cave link that I had up ? just curious.

Alright now I'm so tired that I could explode.

What exactly is dis-connect. is it like when your internet just kicks off, or is it when it simply takes a long time to load, cause I think he is trying to screw up my webtv. I'd better think up a way to catch him and find a way to inflict massive pain before the execution.Any suggestions for my first kill?

Now it's time,goodnight all.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, August 29, 1999 03:37:33 AM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net

Princess Esta-Welcome back. Hi, I'm night walker, I joined the CR about three weeks ago.Your not new , but I'll just remind you in saying that whatever problems you have you can always come and talk with us << hugz>> no you don't sound like a whiner. It's perfectly understandable.

Everyone-Not much to post now. I'll come back tomorrow.Until then,Goodnight my ever gowing rookery brothers and sisteres.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, August 29, 1999 03:11:57 AM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net

*appears in a puff of glitter and smoke*

hi everyone! remember me?

(of course you don't! it's been what, forever?)

*sigh* man, this place brings back memories... i don't remember why i stopped coming, but, i come back, and everything's so different. well... i mean, there are more stories. i can't even remember which one i left off at, which is a real shame because i always loved this place!

maybe i'll catch up, hang around more. i hope so. but... school's starting, and my life just won't slow down. my grandfather is very ill and my parents are stressed out, my dog died, i'm fighting with my best friend, and school starts next Tuesday... and i'm not getting any younger!! i ought to just sit down and cry, to add to all of that! i must seem and awful whiner!!!

*sigh* d'ya think Puck would have a spell to help out with slowing one's life down? send him to me if you see him!
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Insaniy
Sunday, August 29, 1999 02:39:49 AM
IP: abd10b2c.ipt.aol.com

FireStorm-That's what I think he meant. I don't really know. I wrote to him and asked him what past webtv users did to post fanfic and he said that they sent them to someone with a computer who would post it . I'm not really sure myself what he meant.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, August 29, 1999 02:16:41 AM
IP: proxy-393.public.rwc.webtv.net

**CONTINUING THE RP ACTION**

Agent Tau and his four henchmen enter the Shady Rest Motel parking lot and spread out. Two of Shogun Raptor's friends are still awake and one of them (Blackwing) is on watch, but he sees nothing due to the men's Metal Gear Solid style stealth camouflage suits. Tau meanwhile comes up behind the lookout and knocks him unconscious with a high-caliber stun gun. Jones and Brown return his thumbs-up, then go to Doug and Kitainia's room, open its door with a skeleton key, and then stick their guns in and fire two tranquilizer darts. The snoring in the room stops, and the agents tiptoe inside. Seconds later Tau pulls up in a large black van and helps them put the two Raven leaders' comatose forms in its back. Smith and Carver show up with the similarly subdued forms of Shauna and Shap. "Get the others," Tau tells his men, and they rush off again, returning a few minutes later with Boris, Elena, Keith, and Stephanie. The next trip allows them to bring in Lathrop, Orion, Gubio, and Mist. "The last two are still awake," Carver tells Tau. "You better handle that." Tau nods. "I'll take care of them." He then walks over to Jammer's room and throws open its door. "Hey, do you mind?" Tricia shouts from the room's bed (which she and Jammer have been making out on). Tau coldly aims his dart gun at them and shoots Tricia in the neck. Jammer reaches for his assault rifle but is also tranquilized before he can pick it up. "Really," Tau shakes his head. "Why have these guys been so tough before now?" He whistles and Smith and Jones hurry over to help abduct the two Ravens their boss shot. "What about the last one?" Carver asks. "Aren't there fifteen of these guys?" "Leave him here," Tau snaps. "He's of no consequence without the others." The subordinate agents shrug and pile into the van. Seconds later it pulls away. Inside his room, Tom lowers his camera after taking several shots of the vehicle. "Damn it, they took everyone. I better get that Shogun dude. We have to make them pay."

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everyone. Well, another year of college has began for Doug and me. My classes yesterday were a mix of enjoyable and boring (mostly the latter), I just hope they don't turn out to be difficult on top of that. <fingers crossed> On with replies.

**MILD WCC SPOILERS AHEAD**

Coyote: Read Team Charlie. I agree with Doug that it was a little dull at times, but that was okay because of the great plot developments you set up with Stephen Edwards and Ares' little surprise. Samson's death was also a very nice tragic scene, I hope he gets a great funeral. Ari was also developed well, as were Angela and Sontanax (whose fight scene made me laugh out loud). Can't wait for Delta, keep up the good work!

**WCC SPOILERS END**

Cats vs. Dogs: Both species have their merits. I like dogs' loyalty and security potential, as well as their playfulness and the fact that you can have fun playing fetch and running around with one. Cats are good for their humor and the fact that you don't have to care for or clean up after them that much. It also feels nicer to stroke a cat than a dog IMO. If I had to choose between one or the other, I'd pick the dog, but that's probably because Mist is around me so much of the time so I already have a cat available. :)

Jenna: Glad you agree with me. I liked the religious scenes in those two Indiana Jones films you mentioned too. Especially the Grail-related ones, they gave Indy excellent development and the bad guys some great bits of poetic justice.

Aaron: Nice creativity demon. I wouldn't be surprised if Sevarius did do something like that.

Mary Sues: If written correctly and developed, they can be enjoyable, but since they usually aren't...:(

Hmm, there wasn't much to say tonight. Slow week, I guess. Hope we get new DA eps soon so that can change. Later!

**BACK TO RP** (Shogun, if you want to continue this scene, feel free. E-mail us if you need data on the participants.)

Tom is just heading for his room's door when a portal of black fire opens halfway between it and him. "What the...?" the young chemical engineer stammers as two familiar figures step out. "Hello traitor," Kitainia's ex-boyfriend and born-again fanatic Jerry Bennet says to his former best friend. "Jerry?" Tom asks, dropping his jaw. "But I..." "That's right," the other figure smiles. "You killed Jerry. And I must thank you, Tom. It was the best thing you ever did for him." Tom looks at the figure and recognizes him. "Bishop!" "Yes," the evil corrupt Bishop Joseph Galante nods. "I'm glad you remember me. Tom, I believe our mutual friend here has some unfinished business with you. An eye for an eye, as it were." "But Jerry's supposed to be dead!" Tom yells. "Why isn't he?" "Oh, I am dead, you idiot," Jerry chuckles. "It's very simple. You see, when we died the Bishop here and I didn't end up in the place we thought we would. Fortunately a guy named Deavik in the place we did end up in was very helpful to us." He grins and his body suddenly changes, black-feathered wings bursting from his back as his features and body change into those of a large vulture-man creature. Galante's features likewise lengthen, becoming harsh and skeletal. A horn bursts from his head, splitting a hole through his cap of office. A rictus grin dominates the Bishop's new face. "You're...demons," Tom gasps. "That's right," Jerry laughs. "And now you're going to die."

**RP WILL SOON BE CONTINUED, COVERING BOTH THE RAVENS' REACTION TO THEIR CAPTURE AND TOM'S UPCOMING FIGHT**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 12:55:57 AM
IP: pool-209-138-62-112.dlls.grid.net

**JOYRIDE!**

[Wilek: "We now have Dean Devlin himself? <muhahaha> Oh, this will be fun...let's see..." Wilek fiddles with something, and immediately the machine produces three bottles of exotically-colored liquid, which Wilek mixes and pours into an IV apparatus which the machine connects to a vein in Devlin's arm. Wilek: "This amplifies pain sensations by a factor of ten or more." He runs a hooked knife ever so gently across Devlin's face, eliciting screams of agony, just to prove this point. He then slowly rakes the knife lenghwise down Devlin's arms and legs, producing long ragged cuts which bleed profusely, and making Devlin scream until he has no voice left to scream with. After hacking off Devlin's hands and feet, Wilek then has the torture machine deploy what looks like a cross between a branding iron and a tattoo needle. Wilek: "That you may ever remember the show you would have defiled..." With the press of a button, the machine carves the somewhat crude image of a gargoyle into Devlin's forehead. Wilek: "Killing you would let you off too easy. I think I'll simply leave you here." Mr. Thingy's shackles open, allowing Devlin to fall to the stone floor, as if he weren't already in enough pain. Wilek: "Now, who else is here to torment..."]

**END!**

Dragonball Z> I saw a bit of a preview for the next season a while ago. Is it me, or is there a Saiyan who bears a slight but noticable resemblance to one David Xanatos...?

Pistoff> <<She chopped its head off with an ax and the decapitated body jumped up and started running around in circles.>> Augh! That...*ecch*. Was that chicken possessed? I mean, I've heard of chickens twitching a bit after their heads are cut off, but running around? <shudder> (I'm in this kind of mood. I really shouldn't read about revenant chickens while listening to Omen II MP3s...)

Robby> <<GEEZ, I *HATE* mowing the lawn! Especially when its a lawn full of trees, shrubs, rocks and other obstacles and its 3 freaking acres long!>> ACK! There should be a law against making anyone do that without GENEROUS pay! <> Hm...One of them seems like the Loony Tunes theme...some Carribean...the Wedding March...Brahm's Lullabye...some Western saloon music?!...a broken-record reprise of the Loony Tunes theme...ack, it's a jumbled mess.

Gunjack> <<When I got home, I was greeted with the news that it was time to get off my but, and start getting some work done. This translates into regular sleeping hours (AAAARRGH!!), a workload designed to allow me to finish three years of school in one, and if I get all of that done, a job. In addition, I found out when I got home that our one-season-old computer had suddenly died for no apparent reason, thereby cutting me off from convienient access to both my games and the internet.>> AAAACCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! My sincerest condolences, and the best of luck, as you'll need it...<<ladies and gentlemen, I'VE FOUND MY ELISA!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!>> Hey, it looks like things are going better than I thought. Congratulations! :D <<If she stops by be sure not to scare her too badly... if that's possible.>> Heh heh...we'll try. (Did anyone ever get the Mr. Disconnect stains out of the hardwood floor?)

Has anyone here seen National Lampoon's European Vacation? Weird, disgusting little movie. I'm amazed it escaped an R rating.

Newcomers> Welcome! Stick your heads in this so we can suck the sanity out of your unsuspecting brain and into a jar, where we will use it for all manner of perverted purposes. >:)

Taleweaver> <<You don't want to be inside when the story starts growing. Suddenly you find yourself killed, or written out of the story or something even worse.>> Heh...for me, it's decidedly worse. And for some reason, I'm enjoying all the agony I plan to subject my character to. Am I truly this evil? >:)

Fire Storm> <<JUST as I got my computer working, it started crashing EVERY program on my computer, even WORD! I mean, WORD! That is *THE* most stable program on my computer. So I figured I would wipe Win-98 and upgrade to Win-95B (Those techies in here know what I am talking about.) NOW I can't get past the Plug-n-Pray section because the INSTALLATION program for Win-95 CRASHES. THE FRIGGIN INSTALLATION PROGRAM! ARGGGGGH!>> O_o ACK. Is there any way to start from scratch, so to speak? Install this computer's hard drive as a secondary hard drive in a new computer, so you don't lose all your data? <<I went into Office Depot (I didn't PAY for anything.) and I heard some GREAT news! The B@#%^ that yelled at LM was practicailly FIRED because she was a b@#%$. SHE'S GONE! The OTHER, WORSE b#$%^ quit, and rumor is that it is because what happened with me! Isn't that GREAT news!>> Oh YEAH! I am so glad they're gone. Hopefully they'll never be able to keep a decent job because of their b#$%^iness.

**RP!**

[Darth Jashin and Dark Eternal are attempting to contact Agent Rho, only to be halted by the computer system's security routines...when Jashin's mood alters considerably. "Never mind, Eternal...we're too late. There's no way to stop whatever's about to happen...may the Force protect them..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, August 29, 1999 12:03:40 AM
IP: tnt-2-197-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

"Monty Python and the Flying Circus"
Robby the CR DJ
Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:44:48 PM
IP: spider-te044.proxy.aol.com

Robby>>>one part of that song sounds like part of an old western TV series theme, and another sounds like some parts of ragtime/dixieland songs

Nightwalker>>>excuse my misunderstanding, when I move out from home after graduating--it seemed like everyone one called me a baby, because of my young age (esp. when I startfed my own business in Houston) it drove me nuts. YOU move out of home and start being responcible for yourself- the last thing you think of yourself as being is a baby.
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
twin falls, idaho
Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:40:12 PM
IP: 207.14.195.114

<>COMPUTER RP!<>

<WARNING! SYSTEM CRASH! WARNING! SYSTEM CRASH!>
Boomed the now familiar voice as some binomes dressed as school girls raised thier pendants. The head one with large 'meatball' hair and pigtails was about to transform when a chunk of a building falls from the sky, crushing her.

DERN LOT BOYS! JUST as I got my computer working, it started crashing EVERY program on my computer, even WORD! I mean, WORD! That is *THE* most stable program on my computer.
So I figured I would wipe Win-98 and upgrade to Win-95B (Those techies in here know what I am talking about.)
NOW I can't get past the Plug-n-Pray section because the INSTALLATION program for Win-95 CRASHES. THE FRIGGIN INSTALLATION PROGRAM! ARGGGGGH!

So, <Sigh>, I am on my laptop, the one that has been giving me nothing but problems since I bought it, but seems to work fine since Compaq fixed it back in May.
Jinxing it? Oh yeah? Come on you piece of crap, BREAK ON ME! I DARE YOU!

<END COMPUTER RP AND RANT!>

And now for somthing completely different...

<Hey Robby: Got a good Monty Python's Flying Circus MIDI for the above?>

GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY!
I went into Office Depot (I didn't PAY for anything.) and I heard some GREAT news! The B@#%^ that yelled at LM was practicailly FIRED because she was a b@#%$. SHE'S GONE!
The OTHER, WORSE b#$%^ quit, and rumor is that it is because what happened with me!
Isn't that GREAT news!
<Fire Storm and Lady Mystic dance with joy.>

Mary Sues: LM informs me that she thinks that term is older than even Star Trek, but she is not sure. She thinks she heard the term mentioned in movies made before Star Trek.
You know who WOULD know? Merlin Missy.

BKN: shogun raptor: YEAH! Bring back Exo-Squad!
Saturday Anime: You mean it IS on the air? Hell, I am usually up at 3am bonnieway!

night walker: What do you mean about posting fan-fiction? Please define. Do you mean you e-mail it to someone and then they put it in the GFW?

The Company: We (LM and I) have been doing so many (unpaid) side jobs at this one place that we are almost becoming experts at some of this stuff. (Soon, they will be services we offer!)
ALSO, Monday I'll find out if they REALLY want to upgrade thier network, or if they have been pulling my leg all this time.
If they do... YEAH!
If not... we move on... and charge them if they want us to do anything for them (Like we should have from the start)

Stephen "Dominic" Sobotka, Jr.: Heck, I have to agree with Coyote. I was also expecting your voice more than anyone elses from the radio play!

Xanathar: System Shock 2: MAN, I saw that box and I REALLY want it. LOVED the first one! And when I get that game, I will actually PLAY it!
'Puters: Only 2 hard drives?

Spacebabie: Dinosuscers <SP!!!> Yeah, I remember that. From what I remember, actually not bad.

<FAIL//CRASH>

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:33:24 PM
IP: t1-11.visitus.net

Just came across a very... Interesting Tiny Toons song bit. Apparently Wackyland had its own themesong, that amalgated a dozen other songs. I recognize all of them, but I can't place all of them. Help anyone? In any case, check it out... Click!
Robby the CR DJ
Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:19:20 PM
IP: spider-te044.proxy.aol.com

Delphi-I didn't mean baby as in babyish. I meant like the baby of the CR, as in like the youngest of the rookery children , as far as I know I'm the youngest.
night walker - [goliath01hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:48:38 PM
IP: proxy-353.public.rwc.webtv.net

Mary Sue -- I agree with what SJ said; there's some of me in all my characters, in gaming and in fiction. Most of me in Birdie, though ; ) I'd never put _myself_ in a story unless as a joke ... would never play myself in a game (Villains and Vigilantes wanted you to do that, uck).

Lord of the Rings > if they combine Arwen and Eowyn, I will be muchly vexed ... that would smack of making her the "token chick" ... what next, combine Galadriel and Goldberry?

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:32:56 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**enters the room, doing backflips for some bizarre reason. Switches out the candle, then leaps into the lawn chair, nearly collapsing it.**

Guess what came in the mail today!! **pulls out a Michigan license plate with "NWNFRVR" stamped in as the plate number** WOO HOO!!!

**composes self**

Sorry. But I consider this a *really* early birthday gift (about a month in advance, and about two to four weeks before I was expecting), which would make two related to the Caddy that I'll be getting this year (mom's already said she's getting me a new hood ornament for my B-day this year ... she does that and I'll pay to have it installed if I can't do it myself.). :)

Night walker: I wouldn't guarantee that you're the youngest ... there's quite a few younger teenagers in this room (Heather and Mary Flanders come to mind immediately).

Pistoff: Actually, the stupid part of that quote would be that anyone would be hijacking a plane to Detroit in the first place. ;) j/k

Stephen: Glad ye liked his appearance ... ;)

All right, I gotta clear the air ... the actual number of characters that were put into WCC totalled 437 ... there are two that I've been keeping under my hat, to show up as surprise characters. Now that they've both appeared, I'll be changing the credits page to reflect their participation. For those keeping track, the two surprise characters were:
Nox (Amy K. Cyrway)
and Stephen Edwards (Stephen R. "Coldstone" Sobotka)

... which leads me to ...

Doug: You'll be seeing more of what's going on with Stephen Edwards in the subsequent stories. Keep in mind that the eight team stories are occuring *simultaneously* in continuity ... Stephen's journey is going to be not so much a parallel story but a diagonal one. His fate, including whether he delivers that package and if Clan SteelClaw can stop him, will be revealed in the next few team stories ... it will run from Teams Charlie through Golf. So yes, that thread I dangled in front of your nose was intentional ... as have all my threads been. :)
Oh, and the little guy whose name ye can't recall is Sotanax, generously loaned to me by Merlin Missy.
Yeah, this one's probably going to be the weakest of the stories in WCC, but you consider that the other seven will be more pro-active because the other seven teams are *attacking* teams ... Charlie on the other hand was a *defensive* team, their main goal is to keep the attackers clear of the Castle so that the retreating teams and their wounded will be safe.
(And yes, everyone who's wondering, there *is* a significance to the thing Ares exchanged for a toolbox in the garage. It's another one of those little dangling threads. :)

Mary: Heh ... nice semi-filk of "Mambo #5." :)

Cats vs. dogs: I live in the unofficial Algonac City Zoo with two of each. I'm going to remain neutral on it ... on the one hand, the cats are fun to watch when they're attitudinal and the dogs are just plain funny ... on the other hand one of the cats only uses the litterbox half the time and anywhere you go in the house there's a dog underfoot.

Gunjack: Welcome back. **looks at the Distilled Happiness and sighs** Maybe when my beloved makes her return I can join you in your joyful drink.

**taps foot waiting for the room to refresh** Has anyone noticed the room being shockingly slow this evening? ... ah, there we are.

Oh, not much else to talk about, is there this evening? Ah well ...

**sits back in the lawn chair, fixating on the candle's flame once again**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, August 28, 1999 09:36:21 PM
IP: 207.91.254.39

Just noticed this.

Spacebabie- You had an all RP post. Don't do that again, please.
Robby
Saturday, August 28, 1999 09:08:11 PM
IP: spider-wc011.proxy.aol.com

VISIT STATION EIGHT!
VISIT STATION EIGHT!

Taleweaver- Hey, I *loved* Dinosaucers. Yeah it had its stupid points, but it was the 80's! All shows did!

Hmm, not much going on today... Ah well... Does anyone in here know why there were so many episodes of Laverne and Shirley with no Shirley?
Robby
Saturday, August 28, 1999 08:59:30 PM
IP: spider-wc011.proxy.aol.com

Mary Sues> I wouldn't put myself in a story. I learned this in storycrafting, stories have the ability of taking on a life of their own. You don't want to be inside when the story starts growing. Suddenly you find yourself killed, or written out of the story or something even worse. Best to stay out here away from the carnage and let part of your personality develop in other characters.

Spacebabies> I think the show you are thinking of is Extreme Dinosaurs. Another bad one. I'd even put Dinosaucers above this one. I wish if they are going ot make a show, make it interesting. As for 'Mummies Alive' the only good thing about it was it got me so mad, that I put my all into sun and the Serpent.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 08:33:16 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.67.19.losangeles1.level3.net

Ugh, I hate relying on the library for the internet... it's a busy day for the library, so you only get an hour or to of time at a stretch. anyway, on to that happy business I mentioned.

Everyone, I forgot to mention the single most wonderfull aspect of my summer. *switches to his English Gentleman voice*
After a three day bus trip, I found myself at Camp Hunt, discussing the usual insanity whith a few new friends as we waited for our food. Before I knew it, I was face to face with the most enchanting lady it has ever been my pleasure to meet. I spent the next three weeks in her excellent company, weathering the displeasure of various camp officials, only to be sepperated when I was forced to return home. *returns to normal voice*

Anyway, I was bumming around Harding University after music camp last week, and was finally able to catch up with her again. ladies and gentlemen, I'VE FOUND MY ELISA!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!

*Valentine composes himself*

Her name is Rebecca, but she's known as Princess Mera. If she stops by be sure not to scare her too badly... if that's possible. Anybody who enjoys the March of Cambreth is gonna be tough to frighten. Oh, and I almost forgot...

*reaches into his desk and retrieves a large crystal decanter and a tray of glasses*

This... *points to the decanter*... is Distilled Happiness, spiced with Joy, and aged for seventeen years in the cellars of the Imagination. *pours a glass*

Everyone, to Love!!

Gunjack Valentine, the hopelessly happy
Saturday, August 28, 1999 05:48:16 PM
IP: 205.165.166.142

Sorry everyone the Creativity Demons wont let me back controll of my mind unless I type it.

I hope you wont mind but I'm adding a new factor to the RP

BEGIN RP
************************************************************

3,000 feet above Avalon
"Are you sure this is a good location"
"Its small wont cause to much arousal"
"finished contact with Nokkar he says to get in touch with a creature named 'Goliath'"
"We should tell him the war ended centuries ago"
"Should we also tell him that most of his kind died out?"
"No."
"Allright who took my special blend" many voices rambled at the same time.

"Aria sisters reporting for duty" all eyes turned two the three girls, they appeared very human like even thoguh they were tall like supermodels, thier skin was a plae silver color, the youngest had pale ice blue hair in a braid, her eyes were the color of butterscotch candy, she wore a tight tube top,vest,shorts and boots, she grinned ather commaning officer.
The middle sister had pure white wavy hair that gatherd at her shoulders, She peered at everyone with her deep pink eyes. she also wore a tube top and a vest but she perferd a skirt and sandals to shorts and boots.
The eldest stood patiently her long pale pink hair flowed around her, her violet eyes had seen many things but they were a bit tired from reading too much. She dressed more conservativly than her sisters, wearing a blouse,jacket and pants so shiny the rest of the crew could see their reflection.

"Allrigh" Their comander said"you three know what to do"

"Yeah find some good disguises!"Tizzy,the youngest said eagerly.

Their commander nodded then looked at Dostin and Caleb

"Yeah yeah,Where going to to fly them down"Dostin said blinking is huge eyes"come on Caleb.Tizzy,Meleah,Karina"
The frog like alien heaed to where one of the smaller pods were he was followed by the blue elf like Caleb and the tall Aria sisters.
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END RP

If you don't like say so,like I said earlier My mind was heldcaptive by the creativity demons.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, August 28, 1999 04:57:42 PM
IP: ts002d01.orl-fl.concentric.net

Hey Gunjack. I really don't have anything to say but I thought I would post anyway.
Princess Mera
Saturday, August 28, 1999 04:29:37 PM
IP: harding.edu

*with a resounding crash, the door to the CR is slammed off it's hinges, and in steps Valentine in full "evil suit" mode. He immediatly makes his way to his writing desk, kicks back in a comfy chair, and starts cleaning his handguns while he scans the posts.*

Well, the awesome rigors of summer are finally over. After four and a half weeks of camp, a full week spent in transit, two weeks spent gaming, and a week at Harding University, I finally arrived home for good, ready for some peacefull relaxation.

WRONG!! When I got home, I was greeted with the news that it was time to get off my but, and start getting some work done. This translates into regular sleeping hours (AAAARRGH!!), a workload designed to allow me to finish three years of school in one, and if I get all of that done, a job. In addition, I found out when I got home that our one-season-old computer had suddenly died for no apparent reason, thereby cutting me off from convienient access to both my games and the internet. Which reminds me...

************DC DEATH*************
Valentine clout DC over the head with his pistol, putting him out like a light. When the evil hacker awakens, he has been sewn into a large leather bag, and sat in a chair between two small piles of wood. Valentine is busy spraying him with a water hose. Valentine grins evilly. "Comfy? I had this suggested to me by a dear friend. (Clears his throught) Dis Connect, you are guilty of ruining my computer, thereby preventing communication, recreation, obfuscation, and in short generally screwing me over. For these crimes, I sentence you to death."
DC looks around at the woodpiles, and then at the soggy bag he is stuck in.
"What, am I supposed to catch a cold from the damp? And what's the wood for?"
He tries to shrug, but the sack is too tight. Valentine grins as he tosses a match on each of the woodpiles, and the gasoline soaked wood bursts into flame.
"Tell me, DC, have you ever seen what happens when you hang wet leather over a fire to dry? In about thirty minutes, that sack will have shrunk to the point that it'll squeeze your liver out your nose. Try to enjoy..."

*********************END DC DEATH*******************

Anyway, the librarian is kicking me off the computer, so I gotta go. hopefully a happier post latter today...
Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, August 28, 1999 04:05:32 PM
IP: 205.165.166.142

goodafternoon
David G>>got your email,

I'm in the process of setting ICQ up on my system, just finished downloading the program anyone else using ICQ???

Pistoff>>well it really was more like a farmette (only 2 acres) but dad was always into weird stuff, for awhile after we grewup and left home my Dad raised mice to sell to pet stores for snake food, partridges- to sell the eggs to gourmet restaraunts, and siameese cats, border collies, guinee pigs.... do you get the picture
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Saturday, August 28, 1999 03:26:35 PM
IP: 207.14.200.167

GEEZ, I *HATE* mowing the lawn! Especially when its a lawn full of trees, shrubs, rocks and other obstacles and its 3 freaking acres long! **Sigh** One acre down, two to go...

And just because I feel like it and SJ mentioned it earlier... The Shaft theme song. Clickie!
Robby the CR DJ
Saturday, August 28, 1999 03:12:37 PM
IP: spider-tn042.proxy.aol.com

I also have been lurking.

I agree with all of you Sci-Fi needs to Revamp its cartoon block. oh well Thankd the Big Guy upstairs for CN and Toonami.

Mary Sue hmmmm> If I would write that the main character would have all my flaws,Including fear of hornets and my allergies wich seem tio pick during the dog days of summer

Cats vs dogs. I live in a house that has both of them so I'm 50 50. I also own one ofthe most affectionate cats in the world to both humans and dogs she will walk up to them and start purring and rubbing against them

Did you knpw there is a Pokemon CD out there? and my brother has it.

New eps of Batman Beyond look pretty good, and Melanie is back!!!!!!!!!

Speaking of lame cartoons what was that Dinosaur one? The one where the enemies are Raptors and they all have advanced intelligence and the Pterodactly reminded me of Brooklyn?
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, August 28, 1999 03:03:29 PM
IP: ts002d44.orl-fl.concentric.net

ya know, every time I hear that song, "Mambo #5" I keep thinking of Brooklyn and all those mates he has. Can you just picture it?

Brooklyn singing:A little bit of Avery in my life, a little bit of Sata by my side, a little bit of Angela's all I need, yadda yadda yadda... ;P
Mary Flanders
Saturday, August 28, 1999 01:29:25 PM
IP: ramp-2-39.ucdavis.edu

Adrienne> I agree that current youths don't care much about anything else but dressing up weird to freak their parents. I'm a punk (straight-edge, to be precise) and pretty much the whole punk scene has been bought off by the record labels. It's all about consumerism now, and looking 'cool' instead of trying to bring in a peaceful revolution.
DarkAngel
Quebec, Canada
Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:31:18 AM
IP: xp11-1-4-04.interlinx.qc.ca

Hi all!!

JackaL:My Komputer died yall. It went to the big motherboard in the sky. So that's why I'm using the library's Komputer>>ACK! I know how that feels,I've gone through two hard drive's on this PC of mine.

Jar Jar torture engine:YES!!:)

Wilek re System Shock 2:Tust me this game ROCKS!,it keeps you in a constant state of fear and tension in the same way as the Blair witch project.:)

Roswell:This show sounds well cr@p!,thank's for the warning guys:)

Cats and Dogs:I'm a dog's person myself,I've never liked cats that much.(the smell of cat food doesn't help either)

Aaron re Beavis and Butthead quote:It worries me when I start agreeing with these two.>>Same here.

Lexy:OH I got your letter!!! Thanks for sending it. *smiles* It got through with good timeing id say!>>YAY!!!I'm soo relived*runs around the chair pumping fist into the air*thank you for telling me.:)

night walker:Do any of you remember Robotech? My uncle has the entire series on tape. It's probaly my second fave cartoon[maybe I'm not thinkng strait.>>I do,I used to watch it before going to school every morning years ago:)

Welcome back Doug,Kitiana and Bronx Wyvern:)

**THE JOYRIDE**
Xanathar grabs a slice of pizza out of the box that Pistoff hands around.

"Mmmm good Now all we need is some entertainment" said Xanathar and "I think I know who could provide it for us".

Xanathar runs out of the room and comes back a few minutes later draging a bloodied and brused Dean Devlin behind him.

"What are you going to do to me?" said Dean trembling

"You're are entertainment this evening" said Xanathar grinning "Wilek could you prepare Mr Thingy for it's latest victim"

"Goodie!!"said Wilek with an insane grin and produced a weird looking surgical table come torture device with arm and leg clamps and a variety of attachments.

"NOOOOOO"screamed dean as pistoff and Xanathar dragged him over the room and clamped dean down to the machine.

"Where ready when you are Wilek!" said Xanathar.

**TO BE CONTINUED**

C'yas Later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Saturday, August 28, 1999 09:24:22 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74

**RP HERE**

In Thailog's secret base, the evil clone gargoyle is hanging up a telephone and smiling. "Kincaid has just informed me that everything is ready at both Akron and Area 51-A," he tells the others. "It seems this time our plan will succeed. Our enemies will be captured. With Kincaid and Pastor John's men guarding them, they should not escape. Thus we can easily schedule and carry out their execution." Zale nods in agreement. "That was a brilliant idea you had," he tells Tyl. "I can't believe that so far it's working like a charm." The evil hacker grins. "Oh yes. Gubio and his friends are nothing if not predictable. Right now, just as I knew they'd be, they are waiting for a 'traitor' who will never arrive." He and Corax laugh.

Meanwhile at the Shady Rest Motel (which btw consists of two large buildings seperated by a wide parking lot; the Ravens are in one and Shogun's team in the other), Doug and Kitainia are relaxing in their room. Kit's taking a shower while Doug scans the TV for anything worth watching. He finds Roswell Conspiracy and changes the channel after five minutes of the drivel, shaking his head in the knowledge that the show's owners were very wrong to not let Greg do the writing. "That's not even gonna last its first season," he sighs. "And unlike other shows such as Roar and Brimstone, it will deserve to go out early." Frowning, Doug turns to make a quick post.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi. As you all know, Kit and I got back last night from our trip up to Rochester, Minnesota. It went well. :) Today was our first day back in college, it was alright. Our professors seem like okay people and our classes are somewhat entertaining as well as interesting. Both are good things. Hope we match these course benefits with nice grades. <crosses fingers> On to catchup and replies.

Fanfic Progress: Part 2 of Protected Species has been picked up again, but it's proceeding slowly (as all things related to fanfic must now that I'm back in school). I'm currently getting everyone ready for the big battle with Taro and his allies. It should hopefully go well. However, I am suffering from slight disinterest in fanfic lately due to a lack of feedback. Therefore I hope that people will soon send me some so that I know I do have readers out there. Pistoff? GXB? Niamhgold? Anybody? Please, if you can, send me reviews ASAP! Even criticism is welcome! Hope to be reading it all very soon. <prays>

**SPOILERS AHEAD**

Weekend Films: Kit and I saw Dudley Do-Right today, as well as 13th Warrior. The former had a nice plot and a few good laughs, plus good preformances by the three principals that pretty much fit in with their characters from the original show. However, its script was uninteresting, and the plot was full of predictable and convoulted cliche developments that IMO ruined the film for most viewers. So Dudlet gets thumbs down, 4.5/10 stars. 13th Warrior was a lot better. I liked how they followed the book's plot throughout most of it, and the characters were very well-developed. The plot was a little fast-paced, but that suited the movie's tone and at least the action proceeded very well. I also liked the characters' preformances, especially the ones who played the three principal Vikings (can't recall their names). The action was good too, though I was disappointed to never see Banderas in any major solo fight with some big bad guy. The female characters could also have used more development. Overall a nice movie, captured its setting as well as it did its characters, plot, and script. 7/10, thumbs up.

Coyote: Read Team Charlie, thought you did a nice job on it. I didn't enjoy this one as much as your previous WCC fics, though. The action seemed a little disjointed and at times things happened too quickly and seemingly without the effect they deserved (example- the death of Maria Chavez). A few major loose ends remained dangling too (example- did Flynt stop the guy who was taking a package to other clan members or did he get thorugh? Sorry I can't remember the guy's name, it's late and my brain isn't exactly working its best right now). There were a few bright spots though- the scenes with Evil Lillith, Cadillac, and the little guy whose name I can't recall; Samson's tragic death, and the development on Ari. So it was nice at times but mostly seemed like filler. That was unfortunate IMO, I hope and know you will do better with the upcoming parts. Better luck next time. Team Charlie gets a 5/10, sideways thumb.

**SPOILERS END**

Conan the Adventurer: Watched that show and liked it. I thought it had great plots and characters, and those helped inspire much of my fanfics. (There's a bit of Winfang in O'Neil and Silvan, Skaag and Conan both influenced Seth, and Laura is to some extent modeled after Jasmine. Null's also a lot like Set and Rathomon were.)

Welcome back Green Baron and Blue. Welcome all newcomers whose names I am not taking the trouble to list.

Kaioto: Congrats on triumphing over your latest illness. About Jadriel- He is one of the two main dragon characters in my fanfic saga, the other being Nikki Holliday. Jadriel is a pretty evil dragon, always acts primarily in his own self-interests and rarely thinks of what others would like for him to do. His goals are to gain as much power as possible and dominate others through charisma, influence, wealth, and (his preferred method) fear. He'll follow orders if it suits his purposes, but always finds a way to twist a situation so it serves his personal gain. To him others are either useful tools, allies whose favor he takes for granted, pawns to be manipulated and terrorized, or enemies whom he should best as soon as he can think up and carry out a suitable plan. Jadriel is a blue/black crossbreed dragon, great wyrm age, has scales of very dark indigo blue. He is originally from the plane of Tarterus, where he did very well as a soldier and commander in the armies of his fellow dragons who live in that area. Was also valedictorian of his class at the brutal and difficult Draco Academy. Read Dragon's Game for more info about it and the character. Currently Jadriel is living in New York, having been transferred to Earth by the dragon queen Tiamat to carry out a series of prophecies. His real mission and Tiamat's true intentions for Jadriel are as yet unknown to the reader as well as the character (and I'm keeping it that way! :), but nevertheless Jadriel is acting in his usual manner to amass as much power as he can in the city of New York. To do such he has disguised himself as the human gang leader Daniel Jade and become an opponent of the Manhattan Gargoyles as well as others, and gathered to his side many powerful allies (such as crimelord Richard Fisk, mad scientist Herbert Landon, and operations genius Kelvin Hayes) and useful pawns (including a female mutant spy called Crow who can make herself invisible, a bomb expert named David Hallen, and a large group of cybergenetically enhanced super-powerful thugs). What Tiamat thinks about all this is unclear (though she does know of it), as is what Jadriel might do next to challenge his foes. Whatever it is, it's sure to be a highly devious and well-thought out plan, as the dragon in question is probably one of the most intelligent and adaptable villains in my saga. (He's not as manipulative and underhanded as Nick Mackovic, nor as cunning and subtle as Thailog, but his intelligence and methods are often very much on par with theirs.) Read the stories Kit mentioned for more info on Jadriel. You and my other readers can look forward to seeing more development on him in the upcoming stories Inner Demons, Night of the Symbiotes, and Blind Date.

Night Walker: Cool name choice. I like it a lot. As for your mother situation, I can't give you any advice that hasn't already been said. I can tell you, however, that many family problems will always exist no matter what you do to get rid of them. Unless your mom is the kind of person who cares about you as much as herself, and takes the trouble to notice what effect things like Gargoyles have on you and whether or not it's beneficial (and how so), I have a feeling you two will continue to be at odds over the show and other things. Unfortunately the description you gave of your situation doesn't make her sound like that kind of person. So it looks a little bleak. <grimace> I wish you luck, man. Hope you can somehow find a way to be happy, even with this problem in your life.

Lexy: Kit and I'll take some pics of you and Kaioto. Preferably attached to story feedback, but pics by themselves are okay too. :)

God in Fanfics: I agree with Kit about how he should be used, if he's used at all. The one fic where I've had God play a sizable background role (After the Flood) didn't get much positive feedback, so I took such developments out of future fics. Except where characters like Kurtz and Father Greene are concerned, God isn't even a part of my stories anymore. Whether that's a good or bad thing I do not know. <shrugs>

David G: Hope you post Freelance 3 soon, I'm looking forward to reading it. Speaking of the fanfic archive, does anyone know when Chris will have the quadriplicate problems there fixed?

Happy Belated Birthday Kyryn!! Oh, and congrats to Mary and Dags.

I'm not going to comment on the Mary Sue topic, I've voiced my opinion on it and Mary Sue fanfic characters before many times. Thanks to everyone's who has recently sent Kit and me prayers and well-wishes (don't worry, the tonsilectomy won't be coming any time soon!). That's all for now, good night.

**SOME ENDING RP**

Kit comes out of the shower in a motel bathrobe as Doug finishes posting. "Anything on TV?" she asks. Doug shakes his head. "Nope, nothing good. Even Conan O'Brien is a rerun right now." He sighs, causing Kit to grimace as she clicks off the television and walks over to sit beside him. "Why don't we get some rest then?" she suggests. "Tomorrow could be important." "Right," Doug agrees, and they climb into bed. Through the minature camera concealed in the room's sprinkler, Agent Tau notes them doing so. He checks that the other Ravens have done the same, waits till they are all asleep, and then turns to his four assistants. "We go now," the rogue MIB declares. "Get the Ravens. Forget their pals in the other motel room complex, they aren't important. Tranq our targets and get them in the truck. We'll take them to Area 51-A." The other four agents nod, grab their gear, and begin moving out.

**END THIS BIT OF RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 04:34:54 AM
IP: pool-209-138-163-203.dlls.grid.net

Greetings all... relaxing from a hell of a week with my back problem and a sinus infection. Ah, makes me wish I was ten years younger. I could bounce back from stuff like this back then...

COYOTE BANDO - RE: "Roswell Conspiracies" <>

Heh! This is what I miss by not having Sci-Fi on my cable any more. Well, I could if I paid for the expanded basic cable package. I'm shocked that someone thought my voice was going to pop up in this show... which, btw, can someone send me a taped copy of the pilot? I really don't care how bad it could be. I just want to see it for myself. :)

BTW, Don, I loved Team Charlie! Great Cameo of a particular Hybrid in there... just wonder what's going to happen to him? :)

Anyway, that's all I have to comment on for now. Will talk to you all later after I deal with some Bail Bon-errr I mean, some writing that has to be done.

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Dominic" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, August 28, 1999 03:31:06 AM
IP: m75.ieway.com

Shucks. I hate typos..From the top!

"Twidle blain and Twidle brain? If it's all the same I'll play your game!"
Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 01:14:06 AM
IP: spider-wd072.proxy.aol.com

***Comes Out of Lurking****
Hi all! I know it's been awhile, but lurking does have it's points sometimes.
***Comes Out of Lurking****
Hi all! I know it's been awhile, but lurking does have it's points sometimes.
***Comes Out of Lurking****
Hi all! I know it's been awhile, but lurking does have it's points sometimes.

***RP!****
Bronx finds herself in the middle of no where with her motocycle. "What a fine mess, there is no towns for miles, and I'm stuck looking at desert." She looks on the desert plain, searching for tracks. "N'sync has to be around here somewhere.. they are done for when I find them!"
Suddenly, looking up there is a man in a leather trenchcoat holding playing cards that have a wierd black aura around them. "It appears, your in need of some company, mind if I join you?"
She looks at him uncertain, but nods "Well let me see my options, go on this desert alone, with no one, or have you, a perfect stranger with me."
The stranger took off his hat and sunglasses. He has a striking resembelence to Bronx. "Stranger? is that any way to treat your brother that you haven't seen in years?"

Bronx got off her bike to get a better look at the rough looking hybrid "Blackjack? Is that you?"
"Don't gush all over me. I'll explain later... but I belive we have N'sync to hunt down now."
Bronx smiled and quickly got onto her bike, Jack got on behind her.
They drove away into the night, on the search
****END RP********

Hi Guys! I know it's been a long time since I've posted, but lurking and some persuation *Looks to Green Baron and smiles* helps alot too.

night walker> Welcome! *hugs* Don't consider yourself as the youngest in the rookery, cause I'm also here with you!

Mummies alive- I thought it was a good show and was cheesy at times, but it did at least have a potential plot. However... I must agree with it was a sad rip-off of Gargoyles.

Pokemon rip offs> This is also sad to see, *sigh* can't the market ever leave one good original idea alone?

Mary Sue> My... My... she has certainly shown up in alot of fanfiction I've seen recently. That is not on purpose mind you guys!

Macbeth> While Demona was busy preparing for the virus of all time, what do you guys think he did in all that time? IMHO, I think he had a nice long sit in his chair, and thought about what happened with his kingdom, and where he went wrong. Not being disrespectful or anything, I find Macbeth to be one of the most intreiging characters. Seeing that he had to leave his country.. his wife.. and his entire life had to be hard. If I was in that position, I'd certainly would have a long sit.

That's all for now my rookery sibs!

"Twidle blain and Twidle brain? If it's all the same I'll plsay your game!"

Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 01:10:14 AM
IP: spider-wd072.proxy.aol.com

"Playen?" "PLAYEN?!?!" That's supposed to be "played." And "But we're going to detroit anyway" is supposed to be "But we're going to detroit *already.*"

**pours a bottle of degreaser down typo demon's throat**
Pissy
Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:56:02 AM
IP: wire-17.koalas.com

Wilek: <(And you humans are too easily manipulated by cats. <G>)> Oh, that is sooooo true! ;)

SJ: Don't feel bad about Starship troopers not being on this morning. Stuff like that isn't under our control. And as you said, you would've missed it if it had come on today, so maybe it's for the best. (BTW, my VCR does the same thing to me all the time. Usually when I'm trying to tape Crusade. Grrrr!)

Lexy: Sure, email me a piccie or two... :)

Green Baron: Pizza Hut, eh? **giggles** You don't know what you're in for...but you will. hehehehe! Just kidding. It probably wouldn't be too bad as long as you don't take deliveries. But if they put you in deliveries, get youself a kevlar vest and a big f--king gun. Hallelujah! :P As for your comment about wishing you had a daily beating...ehh...be glad that didn't happen to you. I've seen kids who got the crap beat out of them every night by one or both parents, and those kids are now in prison. Furthermore, there's no excuse for beating on one's kid. A spanking, sure, at times stuff like that's necessary. But my mom has stories about her parents that would make you change your mind real fast. Her father, especially, would take a whip and beat the ever-lovin' $h!t out of her at every opportunity. There were times when she had welts on her legs from the beatings, and the welts remained visible for months. And I've seen parents whack their kids around, right in front of me, just totally beating the snot out of the poor kid over nothing. I don't tolerate it. I step in and say, "That's enough!" because nobody else will, they just stand there and watch the kid get beat senseless. Of course, then the parent usually takes a swing at *me.* I won't bother to go into detail to describe the terrible depth of *that* mistake. Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but I have no respect for parents who savagely beat their kids.

Oh, and thanks for that ET stuff you sent. LOL! :)

Mary/Marty Sues: Well, I suppose the closest thing to this in my fics (and my aborted novel, and the series of short stories that I'm recycling the novel into) is Jack Hammer. But he's not a "perfect" character. Basically, he's...an @$$hole. Just like me! ;) Actually his personality is almost a copy of mine, though some things have been exaggerated just a bit. His psyche is also partially based on Hunter S. Thompson and the character Rutger Hauer playen in "Split Second." (That's where his love of caffeine comes from, and sooner or later I'll have to write a scene with Jack firing his .54 Magnum at a propane tank with nitro charges strapped to the sides just for the hell of it. :) It's kinda weird, though. I'd only intended to put Jack in one fic, as a guy to sit next to Elisa and grate on her nerves, and to allow me to vent some of my customer horror stories. But then he popped up again, and again, and now he's becoming rather integral to the series. Funny, how things like that happen....

**JOYRIDE!**

Pistoff studies Wilek's handiwork and nods. "Nice touch, there."

"Thanks." Wilek grins. "If you think that's impressive, wait'll you see what I can do with Mr. Thingy."

Pistoff raises his eyebrow, but is interrupted by a rather unintelligent-sounding voice from the hallway.

"Hello?" A guy wearing a pizza-delivery shirt and hat comes down the stairs, carrying a delivery box. "I'm looking for..." The guy, a stocky, muscular-looking guy who looks as if he needs to shave six times a day, looks at the carnage and starts to whimper.

"Oh god," Pistoff moans. "It's HIM!"

"Who?" Xanathar asks.

"That guy I mentioned a couple days ago. The one whose throat I wanted to pour degreaser down."

There's a collective "Ohhh!" from the others. Pistoff grins and takes Jack's splattergun out from under his trenchcoat.

"It's a good thing Jack let me borrow this." He points the particle accelerator at the pizza guy. "You should've stayed out of the delivery business." He fires the splattergun.

"Whuh...? Uh...oh gaaawwaaaAAAAACK! Shiiiiiiiiii--!"

!!!!!SPLAT!!!!!

"He was really that bad?" Xanathar asks, brushing entrails off his shirt.

"Worse than any thousand words could describe."

"Was he a retard or something?"

"No. Retards are a lot smarter than this guy ever was." Pistoff picks up the delivery box and opens it. "Anybody hungry...?"

**END RP FOR NOW**

Night walker: I'm glad school is going better for you, I hope it keeps doing just that. :) Good luck with your mother, too. Hopefully you can get her to sit down and watch a couple of eps, and then she'll begin to understand. And if that doesn't work, if she continues to see all cartoons as childish, maybe you could go rent an anime film. Something like "Ghost in the Shell" or "Wicked City" would completely turn her view of animation on its ear. :)

Shogun Raptor: Uh, no, "mary jane" refers to something else... ;)

Delphi: You grew up on a farm, eh? Interesting. My mom did, too. She has this amusing story about what happened the first time her parents made her kill a chicken. She chopped its head off with an ax and the decapitated body jumped up and started running around in circles. She was very young when this happened, and it was years before she could even go anywhere near a chicken... Ewwww!

And now for today's Stupid Quote...

Hijacker (jumping out of seat and waving gun at flight atttendant): "Take me to Detroit!"
Flight attendant: "But we're going to detroit anyway."
Hijacker (returning to seat): "Oh, good."
---from The 365 Stupidest Things Ever Said page-a-day calander. :)

And finally...

"Every public action which is not customary, either is wrong, or if it is right, is a dangerous precedent. It therefore follows that nothing should be tried for the first time." ---F.M. Cornford
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:49:07 AM
IP: wire-17.koalas.com

**RP!**

[After having a cell sample taken, Darth Jashin and Dark Eternal are wending their way through the station's complex corridor system, back to their quarters, when Jashin seems to sense something, a tremor in the Force... "Eternal, what are these people currently involved in?" Eternal: "The command staff was unwilling to be very open with us about it. I could find out if you like." Jashin: "Whatever it is, it's about to go quite awry. Who's in charge here, that Rho fellow?" Eternal: "Technically, although it rather depends upon who one asks." Jashin: "I need to speak with him at once..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

Roswell> <sigh> Is Greg cursed? Why is it that he's been shafted over and over again? First with TGC, now this. I hope the people in charge of Starship Troopers don't find a way to rip him off. (Ah, but someday, we, the fanatically loyal army of His Weismanic Majesty, will unleash our dark will upon the Eisnerite hordes of the Dark Kingdom Of Iron. The Day Of Raguel is at hand, brothers, sisters, and others! Testify to the joy of vengeance! Im Namen vom ersten Rennen, lassen wir die Str�me Rot mit dem Blut Mickey laufen lassen Maus und alle seine Gehirn-toten Nachfolger! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

Aaron> <<"Those congressmen are buttmunches. They're always saying there's too much violence on TV. No there's not. There're too many dumb talkshows where wussy people whine about their dumb@$$ problems.">> It frightens me when Beaver and Buttmunch start emitting deep social commentary.

Hey Lexy, what's the total for our Robby And Heather telethon so far? ^_^

GB> <> You're an Evil Overlord in the making aren't you. <G>

Adrienne> <<A Mary Sue fic is a piece of fiction in which the author inserts him/herself into a universe by means of an original character. This character is usually gorgeous, smart, funny, interesting, and a great warrior to boot- in a word, PERFECT.>> Heh...I have a fic character based on my own identity, but I'm not sure he counts as a Marty Sue because the little yapping weiner dog is almost as ill-adjusted as I am (although he'd probably become sick at the sight of one of my typical DC deaths). And if he survives the little trips through hell I have planned for him, he'll probably be scarred for the rest of his insignificant little life. Muhahahah.

SJ> <> At least Leonardo DiCaprio won't be in it. ;)

Coyote> <> I won't say it, it's just too easy. <G>

$Nightwalker> <<Um , can someone educate and update me in this. Or can I just join at any time. I've never RP'd before and would like to know how.>> The RP? Well, it's this sort of ongoing story about Thailog and some henchmen of his trying to take over the world. There are details at http://members.xoom.com/DumlaoX/rp/index.html if you're interested. :)$

**RESUME RP!**

[Jashin: "Computer, I need to speak with Agent Rho immediately." Computer: "You are not authorized to--" Jashin: "This is an emergency! It may be a matter of life and death!" Computer: "You are not auth--" Jashin: "Forget it. Eternal, link into the station's commnet. Some of his people are soon to die if nothing is done..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:09:15 AM
IP: tnt-1-154-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Adrienne> I hope I didn't upset you. I also fear you misunderstood me on a few points. I take balme since my train of thought can be confusing and a littel addled.

<<I'd rather like to disagree with you on your claim that the Nazis were a bunch of "violent, racist hippies".>>

I didn't mean hippie in the exact same sense as the hippies of the sixties and the seventies, though many changed their views in the eighties.

By hippie, I was referring to the fatc that teh Nazis were made up of younger people, many students, in Munich a generation before the hippies, who wanted to bring in the age of the future, which is also denoted by their love of Wagner. They were also against the current system of government and against many established beliefs in Germany at the time. I do agree that they were nothing like the hippies a generation later, who were peaceful and loving for the most part. Frankly, I can understand what the hippies had against government, especially LBJ a man I despise. I also support equal opportunity for all and I oppose the Vietnam War in hindsight.

<<The wannabes you're referring to are probably the trendies that got really into the whole Bellbottoms and Sunflowers thing without either understanding or caring where they came from. >>
Actually, the wannabees I brought up are the American Nazis who really don't know that much about Naziism, beyond racial hatred and teh desire to cause terror as a group, where there is less accountability. For one, tehre are neonazis who have slavic last names. Hitler despised Slavic people a greta deal, especially the Polish. They would also oppose soem of teh radical environmentalism and wierd spiritualism proposed by many Nazis, as well as many other wierd aspects that aren't usually mentioned (and which I don't know of fully).

<<today, the counterculture is just rebellion.>>
Mostly I just see apathy and the occasional protestors from my campus. In soem ways, my conservative views and distate for big government are a rebellion against the baby boomers, the great society, and the era of big government started when the New Deal was not properly ended afetr WWII.

I vote and I campaign for some politicians, if that counts :)

<<And the Nazis were *leftist*? Last time I checked, the extreme form of Leftism was Communism/Libertarianism.... >>
True, but by modern terms, Libertarians are pretty right-wing. Well, NAZI stands for Nationalist SOCIALIST German Worker's party. They advocated big government and National Socialism is a ssyetm where teh Nation tries to dictate how commerce and capital are used, plus much more of how one lives. The Nazis were big on gun control and national health care, along with a distaste for established beliefs. The social programs implemented by teh Axis powers were not that different from FDR's New Deal program, which is why many of FDR's well-intentioned ideas were struck down by the Supreme Court. In older terms, the big government approach is very right-wing, but by today's standards, that aspect is very left-wing.

In addition, the anti-semitism that is our main assocaition with the Nazis has its roots in teh old Socialist Party of Austria. An earleir party, the Liberal Party (which would be Libertarian and rather right wing by today's standards) of Austria made an issue of ending the subtle anti-semitism and treating the Jews as anyone else, as well as stronger support for religious tolerance. They also supported pure capitalism with no government intervention and the same beleifs as Adam Smith and John Locke, who lived a century ago. These parties were also represented by music. The "Liberals" were fans of Brahms and his msuic which borrowed from earlier forms as far back as the Renaissance, while the Socialists listend to Wagner, who was also incredibly anti-semitic and was very popular with Hitler.

<<And if you're saying that the Nazis were largely Communist, they would have had to have kept their views very, very secret- Hitler didn't just burn Jews, Communists went to Auschwitz, too. >>

I never meant that at all. The only thing Nazis and Communists have in common are tehy are both Socialists, highly anti-semitic, and fond of repressive, murderous regimes and big Government. I woudl also add that Hitler and Stalin were both evil, bloodthirsty, paranoid tyrants,a nd I am glad neitehr one of them succeded in taking over the World.

I also agree in hindsight hippie was a poor choice of words. Progressive would be a better one.

Still friends, right?
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:46:31 PM
IP: 98cf14fe.ipt.aol.com

Green Baron>>>caught that cute kitty pick, we are a two kitty house, the thing that I like about cats is their independance, the require so much less effort than dogs.

As far as my favorites, well there is not just two choices, some of us actually like both, I'm one----could be because I grew up around a lot of animals---Dad was a weekend farmer, goats, chickens, ducks, dogs, cats, rabbits, parakeets, finches, and the ocasional beef on the hoof, and if your asking if I had to help take care of them, weellll that's a big yes, milking, feeding, plucking(ick), shoveling(pewh), and every so often chasing down the ones that got loose.

Nightwalker>> my oldest is 13 and I do not think of her as a baby(of course thats become very hard since she is now 5'4" and I'm 5'5".) you most certainlly are not a baby.

Sevarius Jr.>>>the article that qoute came from was by an author writing about 7 must do things for a good life, and one of his must do things was to continue "educating" yourself even after you are done with your schooling. His point being that the larger part of the population stagnate after they get out of school, and knowledge tends to fade from the mind---If you don't use it, you lose it.

Robby>>>"we are the champ....." it is still running around in my head, I've been humming that of and on for two days now
delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
twin falls, idaho
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:45:17 PM
IP: 207.14.195.156

Todays' garbage-Do any of you remember Robotech? My uncle has the entire series on tape. It's probaly my second fave cartoon[maybe I'm not thinkng strait.

I E-mailed the webmaster about webtv users writing fanfic and he wrote back saying that in the past webtv users always sent their fics to other people[with computers] . That person is supposed to post it up for the writer. Does anyone know how to do this ? any volunteers? I don't know how this works so I'm going to need someone with alot of experience. And someone who'll promise not to read it before it's posted.Anyone?
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:40:39 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

I thought the term was a "mary jane"
shogun raptor
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:23:33 PM
IP: miami-trans2.firn.edu

*begin Rp*
The deadly seven settle into their hotel room, when Doc Congo was approached by Blackwing
"Hey doc, am I the only one here who thinks this is a trap?"
"Being the newest member of the team, Blackwing, I feel I should tell you: we're all expecting a trap"
"So why are we staying here?"
"Sometimes the best way to lure the hunter into the open is to set off his snare"
Blackwing looked at the simian mechanoid strangely
"Basically we let ourselves get captured, then when the target is least suspecting it, we nail them"
Blackwing just shrugged it off and settled in, realizing full well that primus knows what'll happen next
*end RP*

BKN> Mummies alive on Sci-fi? well I will say the show really played off the whole "fish out of water" jokes used in the gargs first season, I believe Ivan Reitman was behind that show, the same guy behind the Ghostbusters films
Speaking of other sci-fi stuff, judging from the reviews, I'm glad I slept in.
and they should've put Exo-squad in the lineup, that show had one HELL of a story arc, and Transformers, maybe even GI joe, *pre- and post-movie eps,but NOT that extreme cr@p* I mean that Rambo toon was just a bad JOE ripoff
*joyride*
Shortly after Firewater returns to Cybertron, he is dispatched to earth, it seems during a recent energy raid at a nuclear facility, there was problems with a strange group of humans with advanced weaponry that had an effect over certain elements of the planet, their energy signal was traced to a small south seas island, so he, and his comerades in arms, Blitzwing and Astrotrain, along with a constructicon survey team were to cleanse the island of all resistance and convert it into an energon refinery, as astrotrain drew closer, the general consensus among the decepticon strike force was a blend of bemusement over the pathetic human resistance, anger at their interferance and out and out bloodthirsty rage at that flying blue humanoid companion of theirs and his godawful puns* end Joyride post
Sci-fi news> and to further twist the knife, I noticed they now run the saturday anime at 3 in the morning *grumble*
shogun raptor
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:20:46 PM
IP: miami-trans2.firn.edu

Hey all. I just remembered that I haven't posted yet today.

School-Today wasn't as bad as yesterday, I actually had a good time until 4th hour. All we did was review. That school is so cheap, we don't even have a teacher in that class. Yesterday he was there, today he's taking over for someone that left, now it's going to be a different sub each day in that class.And I thought Algebra would have been an okay class. The sub had us doing a review packet that took the average freshman about 45 minutes in a class that was 87 minutes long. I just spent the rest of the time reading my pocket bible. Thank the dear lord it's friday.

faves-It's now come down to the eternal question, are you a cat person or a dog person? Well I hope I'm not taking sides since there are only two replies to the question, but I think that dogs are way more faithful than cats. And cats�tend to scratch alot more when iritated. Unlike humans, intelegence doesn't matter to me in pets[Sanity I find though , with pets it's not funny , but I find that in my vast experience , and my loss of it , the less the better].

RPG-Um , can someone educate and update me in this. Or can I just join at any time. I've never RP'd before and would like to know how.

Stigmata-WHAT!!!!!!!!I saw on the net that in comes out the tenth. This isn't fair. I've been waiting for this movie for over a month and now I have to wait two more months. Well I guess they're doing what the Outside Providence guys did , they stalled it for a bit more publicity. I guess both movies really need it . Oh, and Outside providence comes out on wednesday.

E.T.-Green Baron, where did you pick up this little strange yet intoxicating piece of information.Been digging up the old history books rookery brother? Or did you make it up. It was very interesting , and yet expected. Polititions were wierd back then,wait what am I saying? they have always been society's worst.

Delphi,Starsinger and everyone else that this concerns-Thanx for your advice about my mom.It helped, I was seconds away from asking her. We were making dinner together and just talking[been a while since we did that] and the conversation was gearing torwards interests,and Just when I was about to ask her if she cared to watch gargs with me a friend of hers called and right after dinner she left with her friend . Oh well she needs to get out, shes been so buisy latly, friday night would have been okay but theres always sunday night.

First review-Well I guess since I'm not going to see Stigmata I'll review something else.
SPOILERS FOR GO:
Well my mom and I rented Go and what can I say. It looked like someone took a Tarentino class. There were three different stories ,each started at one point, and from a different POV each time. Not each story interlocked completly but I saw past that.Overall it was a good movie, though if your one that just stares at the screen without trying to figure it out you may get confused. And unlike what the trailors and No doubt video say, it's not all about a rave , although the rave is a big part of the film.All of you who haven't seen it go rent it. 7/10 asprin pills.
Sorry to those people that have already reviewed this film.I couldn't help it.

Does anybody know which ep. of Gargoyles is going to air on Sunday.I'm ready to tape again.

Is anybody in here from Indiana or Illinois . Just curious.

I'll post again a bit later.Am I mistaken that some of you take me for the little baby in here , I am the youngest aren't I . Hey I don't mind that.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:16:40 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

David G>>>sent an email, also other email is below
Lexy>>>would love one of those pics, and I will mail $ after work tommorrow
Delphi - [cmiller16@netscape.net]
twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:59:10 PM
IP: 207.14.195.156

One day, I *will* contain everything in one post, I *will*.
Anyways...

Thomas- Yep, it's me! *laughs* It's starting already! And....no, I won't get terribly upset..;)....Anyways, I *love* debating......
so....*clears throat*
As a hippie (yeah, I'm 15, doesn't mean I can't believe in the stuff just cause I wasn't born yet when it was happening), I'd rather like to disagree with you on your claim that the Nazis were a bunch of "violent, racist hippies". I would *love* to know how you define hippie, because two of the things that made them what they were were 1.)political change through *peaceful* protest and 2.) Civil Rights and Equality. Contrary to popular belief, the hippies were not just a bunch of stoned ingrates- the purpose and origin of the counterculture movement of the sixties was SOCIAL AND POLITICAL CHANGE. And they weren't just complaining about the injustice and of Viet Nam. The student protesters of the 60's fought for civil rights for EVERYONE. There was *much* more to being a hippie than just being a vegetarian. The hippies were a generation that saw the corruption in their society and sought to change it. They were not "wannabes". The wannabes you're referring to are probably the trendies that got really into the whole Bellbottoms and Sunflowers thing without either understanding or caring where they came from. Which is why when people ask me "Are you a hippie or something?" (usually prompted by my ranting about leftist stuffs, jes' like I am now, MUAHAHAHAHA!) I usually answer, "Yep, and, no, I'm not a druggie, if that's what you meant."... One of the things that *really* saddens me (and pisses me off considerably) is that after the 60's counterculture sort of lost it's meaning. The hippies had a *cause*, they were going against the norm because they wanted to make a difference.....today, the counterculture is just rebellion. There is no reason except than to defy the convention of the previous generation. If "America's youth" wants to defy their elders, DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE, DAMMIT! *coughs* Anyways.....

And the Nazis were *leftist*? Last time I checked, the extreme form of Leftism was Communism/Libertarianism.... And if you're saying that the Nazis were largely Communist, they would have had to have kept their views very, very secret- Hitler didn't just burn Jews, Communists went to Auschwitz, too.

Apologies for ranting in the hippie part.

Au Reviors!

Adrienne. ;) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:42:35 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

**enters the room, switching out the candles. Sits down in his lawn chair**

Greetin's all.

"Roswell Conspiracies": Okay, here's my take on this whole thing ... I woke up this morning and turned on my TV, expecting Starship Troopers. Instead, I wound up seeing something that made me go "... Damn, that looks familiar." How familiar? When Logan made his cellphone call, I was nearly expecting Stephen's voice to come out!! :)
I only saw the last twenty-five minutes of the pilot ep, but already I could see that, while the basic idea of the plot of Greg's pilot had been followed, everything had been changed slightly ... not just Mandi's observation about the big-ass tank. Character names, and in certain cases personalities, were changed (the agent Thom was supposed to have had the role written for him wound up becoming a world-class wiseass). Dialogue was slightly different. Logan wrecked a perfectly good SUV. :)
Actually, if ya stuck it out through the third and fourth eps ... it got better. I think maybe that it's a little early to be making our judgments about the quality, just because Bohbot rejected Greg's script. He still has somewhat of a connection with Bohbot (as he wrote those eps of ST), so I would wager that there's a distinct possibility that some future eps of "Roswell Conspiracies" could be written by The Man himself.
As for the rest of the Bohbot lineup ... after recovering from my nausea at their resurrection of that *HORRIBLE* "Rambo" animated series from the mid-'80s, some of them have potential. One of these, yes, is "Monster Rancher." (And believe it or not this is not specifically designed to capitalize on Pokemon ... just bad timing. Monster Rancher is a much different video game than Pokemon, and actually it appears that the male lead of the MR series is actually drawn *into* the game from being just a player.)
I think whoever said that it's aiming for an older audience is right ... some of the monster designs look closer to Capcom than Miyazaki ... I'm willing to give it a chance.

SJ, re: Liv Tyler: Hmm ... not quite sure about this casting, considering that I don't think there's a scene in LOTR when Arwen pukes on someone she's about to give oral sex to (a gross little bit that's become nearly a trademark of Tyler's acting career). :P

Mandi: No, you wouldn't be a pain in the ass to ask. Actually, I would welcome it, because I'm having problems getting all of my notes on the characters together (the house is in disarray, and my notes are but a small part of the mess).

Speaking of WCC ... thanks to all who have given me feedback on "Team Charlie." :)

Pistoff: I know ye are, and I'm glad for the support.

Attilla: Same goes for you. **strokes the good Reverend before his own cats ask for a benediction**

Jewel: I don't want to butt in too much, but e-mail me privately about the Rattling Deathtrap and I'll see if I can give you some advice on how to keep it alive until you trade it in, because that sounds like there's some serious trouble in the fuel system, most likely a misaligned idle. If it's a carburetor, it's an easy fix, but for fuel injection it's a royal b*tch.

Mary Sues: As I've stated before, the only thing that may come *close* to being a Mary Sue in my fics is Steve Bluestone's car, which I modeled after "Now and Forever." I've certainly never put a character in that was supposed to fulfill some bizarre sex dream of mine by being the perfect lover or whatever. In fact, the one character in my fics which I've put the most of myself into would have to be ... **laughs at the sheer irony** ... Rosanna.

SJ again: You? Talking out of your ass? Never. :)

**sits back in the lawn chair, looking at the candle's flame and fixating.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:05:28 PM
IP: modem6.i-is.com

***BEGIN RP****
Kari turned pale at Sevarius Jr.'s words. "What....What do you mean Jim is dead?"
"He tried to come see you, but somewhere along the way, his craft...um, exploded," SJ explained. "We don't know exactly why, but it looked as if someone deliberately assassinated him. Um...we're looking into who's behind the whole thing. I-I'm sorry, Kari. I don't know what to say."
Kari did not even blink. She simply sat in her chair and stared at the floor, her face pale and her lips drawn. Suddenly, she looked at SJ with a strange glint in her eyes. "He's really dead?"
"Well, we....um, no body has been found, but then again it *was* an explosion--"
"Bring him back," Kari said firmly.
"W-what?"
"You're a geneticist, aren't you? You can clone people with your eyes closed, can't you?!"
"Well...yeah, but--Wait, are you asking me what I think you are? Don't you remember Lonny? What HE was like?"
"I don't care!" Kari shouted. "I want my brother back! I want you to clone Jim Iza Noying--NOW!!!"
****END RP FOR NOW****

Starship Troopers and the Sci-Fi fiasco: Well, word has it now that the reason all the "new" shows were delayed not because of the Sci-Fi Channel, but because of the Bohbot network, which most of you probably know owns or develops or what-have-you, most of the toons. Bohbot caused the delay, the sneaky buggers!!! But it looks as if I (mercifully) missed out on seeing "Roswell Conspiracies". Sounds like a crappy show anyway. I agree with Robby, they should have brought back Transformers (which Sci-Fi DID show weekday mornings some time ago) or Robotech (again, they used to show it) or something like that, instead of "Mummies Alive".

***BRIEF ENTERTAINMENT NEWS****
Just to be loyal to old Gargoyles cast members, it has now been reported that Ruben Santaigo-Hudson has been cast in the remake/sequel of SHAFT. Even though I usually hate remakes with a passion, I must admitt I'm more than a little interested to see Sam Jackson (one of my personal faves) play the baddest mofo in the hood!
****END ENT NEWS****

ATTENTION ALL NEIL GAIMAN FANS!!! (this means you especially, Ms. Faulkner!! :)
Apperently, while over at the Sci-Fi channel site, I saw a link to something called "Neil Gaiman's Murder Mysteries". It's apperently a "Seeing Ear Theatre" type of thing. Neil has adapted one of his own short stories, "Murder Mysteries", into a sort of play, and is allowing the Sci-Fi channel site to air it. It's a mystery noir with fantasy elements thrown in, and it stars Brian Dennehy. I suggest you go and check it out now, if you're a Gaiman fan, or just want something cool to do while on the net. To check out Part 1 of the story, click on my name!!

Christine: The thing about Liv Tyler as Arwen is, I'm pretty sure that her role has been expanded beyond just a page or two in the book. I'm not sure the exact extent of her role, but....I don't like to think this, I personally don't think Peter Jackson will allow this to happen....but there is some rumor of Arwen having a *much* larger role as Aragorn's romantic leading lady, or even *shudders intensely* there's talk of amalgamating Arwen and Eowyn together. I severly doubt the latter will happen, but I'm worried that the former will. I don't know how much the New Line Cinema execs have sunk their claws into the film, but I worry that they want Jackson to include lots more Arwen just to have more romance and make the film more desirable to women. Personally I believe women will be able to enjoy the film as it stands....but I sincerely, with all due respect, don't want this thing to become Titanic.

Delphi: Count me as one of the ones with stacks of books. I literally have boxes of them...so many that it'll take me years to read them all. AND I'm always buying more, and I go to the library every other week or so. I think I need help ;)

Mary Sues: Hmm....I suppose I will be guilty of this in the future, seeing as I will be inserting myself into some of my long-delayed fan fiction....but I promise I won't be perfect. Funny maybe...and brilliant, of course! ;)
But to an extent, I find that there's a little of me in *every* character that I create. Some more than others, but to a certain degree, I write a bit of myself into all my characters. Sometimes (with the villains, most times) it's part of my own dark side; with other characters, it's other aspects of my personality. I think that all authors sometimes do that, don't they? I mean, I think one of the ways in which an author can make their character work for them is if they are able to relate to the character cause it *is* a part of them....or maybe I'm just talking out of my ass here.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 09:50:24 PM
IP: 207-172-35-70.s70.tnt9.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Hei, Y'awll!

Mary Sues- A Mary Sue fic is a piece of fiction in which the author inserts him/herself into a universe by means of an original character. This character is usually gorgeous, smart, funny, interesting, and a great warrior to boot- in a word, PERFECT. Usually the purpose of Mary Sues is to be the romantic interest of a character the author has a crush on- There are *countless* fics in which a new character shows up and becomes Brook's mate, including that of that wierd Matthew Lawson person...(although they aren't all MS's, i.e. Avery) Anyways..... Mary Sues can also be generally perfect characters, but their main purpose is to put someone's fantasy onto writing. MAry Sue fics aren't all bad- there's actually a Best Mary Sue Fiction Award circulating the net.... I've been told that the male version of a Mary Sue is a "Marty Sue", but there *has* to be a better name..... right?

Oh- for anyone living in NY- jes' how bad is it over there (flood)?
Au Revoirs!
Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 09:30:26 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

Hello, everyone. How are all of you?

I have one week left of my temp job with the bookstore, which is run by Follett,a nd I already filled out an application tow ork for Loyola Dining Services run by marriott. It's amazing how Loyola contracts companies to handle this. They save a lot on benefits.

Tim P> I hope you like the Marines, but be careful if you tell anyone you're a Democrat :) I have three semesters left, and then I'm going to the Air Force recruiting Office, and hopefully, I'll be an Officer two years from now. I hope my penchant for sucking up in High School will help me there :)

SOROW> I take it after your response to Jackal, i can still flirt with you ::gooses SOROW:: :)

Lexy> Mail me the pics.

Taleweaver> I thought she just humped Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk. She is even worse than that. I almost made a Mary Sue who causes Angela to dump Broadway and take after her daddy :) I wish I had the fic, so Mara could MST it.

Adrienne> I hope my rigt-wing nature doesn't upset you too much in this CR :) I was wondering when you'd discover this CR. I thought you wer the same Adrienne from a while abck,a nd it was confirmed since you used my real name.

Pistoff> Here's something funny. Marriott may hire me tow ork at Pizza Hut. Luckily, it will just be cooking them for College students :)

SJ> Here's something funny. Many Nazis were vegetairans. Isn't that ironic! From some stuff I read, they were a bunch of violent, racist hippies, unlike the American wannabees. The real ones are really as far-left as Communists. It was the Commies that called them far-right, though Communism is in fact far-right, because it's based on a very ancient system that FAILED, just like it FAILED in Russia and eventually Cuba and Vietnam,a nd one day it will no longer dominate the humanities departments of most Universities, including my own :)

Jenna> Thanks for teh advice. that was a cool story about the roses and that imprint. When scientists magnify the pupils in teh eyes on Mary's image, they see the little bow kneeling. That little fourth grade tale may have led to my present devotion :)

I am also going to have the Pope appear in my fanfics, especially when he issues an apology to the remaining world Gargoyles for the crimes his predecesors didi to them in the past centuries.

Starsinger> I'm a cat perosn, but that is kind of obvious :)

Jewel> maybe you cna donate the deathtrap and get a tax deduction for about $10.00 :)

Night Walker> My mother and I are not as close as we used to be, but such relationships do grow apart. At 14, it is difficult to grow apart from your mother, especially if their is no ftaher, like my case. My motehr and i have very differnet views on many issues,a nd we argue over a lot of them. She does not have my belief in proper discipline or tough love. My mother and I are the same faith, but I am very traditional and I have accused her of heresy more than once. She si also always on my case for not being social, and she shoved the socialization crap on me too often,e speciallu when I asked her to educate me at home and take me out of grade shcool. She ahs also only said she wants me to be happy, and she has spoiled me leaving me unprepared for the world. Ultimately I would gladly trade in her spoiling and indulgin for a daily beating, because I have little direction in life and no real idea of what to do. She is also a very proud woman,a nd her pride has cost her many opportunities. I have no pride and i woudl have zero tolerance towards pride, since it is a barrier to money and power. I started sucking up just to annoy her, sicn eshe hates it, but it got me a nice scholarship for College. I owe her a lot, but she is a diffciult woman to live with. I hope your relationship with your mother is better than mine.

Bye Bye!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, August 27, 1999 07:01:46 PM
IP: 141.164.64.70

Hi Folks! sorry I've been gone so long but I have just finished my first week of college at Wayne State in Nebraska. It's OK I guess, but I hate being around all these people. I guess it's because I have a fear of crowds. Worse yet, the third part of my fan-fic failed to upload and I did'nt find out about it untill I got to Wayne. My mom said she'd mail the disk to me on tuesday but I haven't seen it yet.

I seen the Marine recruiters last weekend. They say I'm making good progress, but I still have some more weight to lose.

Well, that's the news. I see you again a little later.
Tim P.
Friday, August 27, 1999 06:24:45 PM
IP: s2-onawa.pionet.net

And *THAT* folks, is why I should *NEVER* have to do anything in the morning, my brain doesn't even BEGIN to function until about ten... Look at that post, full of typos and fractured sentances, far worse than usual... Ick...

Roswell- Quick explanation for those not at Gathering 99. Greg Weisman was hired to write the show. He did a two part pilot. The lady in charge loved it. Then, management switched around, and Greg's script got thrown out, and apparently replaced by stuff written by the team that was behind Biker Mice From Mars...

As far as my actual opinion on the show... Well, I just reviewed the tape I set the VCR to record, (I stopped watching when it got to Wonder Woman...) and was rather annoyed the interesting shows are being held off till Monday. (Don't worry SJ, we don't hold it against you at all. we never woulda even known about it if not for you. And I always get up early, this just gave me something to do.) But with a clear head, it is QUITE apparent Roswell is utter garbage. Greg had a great thing going, the audience at the radio show didn't even know it was supposed to be a cartoon until after the reading. (Most of us thought it was gonna be a live action series in the reading... By the by, I played the insane truck driver, though I don't know if that character stayed in the first episode, I missed that one...) while this... Well, I can see why its gonna be on at six in the morning without advertisement. Its worthless, a rip off of Men In Black, and the animation just sucks. Its typical Saturday Morning fare with lousy humor and uninteresting characters, and no Thom Adcox. (Like Greg's version woulda had) The only fun part of the first two episodes was recognizing what was taken from Greg's script... And looking at the credits, I understand why this show is like it is. It has almost the ENTIRE writing team of "Biker Mice From Mars". DOn't get me wrong, I loved Biker Mice, but this show ain't cutting the mustard... Biker Mice at least was a parody on the genre, any lameness about it was pretty much intentional, and it was fun. This is merely attempting to be good, and it ain't even close, especially when ya know what the original version was like. Soon as I figure out when it comes on during the sci-fi channels animation block, I'm reajusting my VCR timer to avoid it.

As far as what the previews revealed of the sci fi channels other new animated works... Starship troopers is hard to judge, we barely saw any clips that weren't dark. It could have Voltron 3-D/ZJonny Quest CGI and thus suck, or it could have Mainframe Quality CGI. Hard call, but Greg's on the team for a few episodes, so it SHOULD be good.

Monster Rancher- While clearly trying to cash in on Pokemon, at least this looks fun and different. Higher quality and less cutesy animation, it looks more geared towards Japanese teens than kids, and the clips make it look like it'll be worth watching a few episodes.

Street Shark and Mummies alive however... ICK. Why did they get the rights to this garbage? (okay, both shows had their MOMENTS, but those were mere moments within entire weeks worth of episodes) Replay Transformers or Ronin Warriors or Exo Squad or SOMETHING anime-like thats worth watching, but not that crap again!

Aaron- Heh, the female mutates look good, but they're not CUTE, in one sense of the word I was using at the time, not to mention I was thinking of Fang, and not Maggie or Sharon. In other senses the term "cute" applies though. (Of course, the word cute has like 30 different meanings...)

Lexy- Ah heck, e-mail me a piccie.
Robby
Friday, August 27, 1999 06:23:21 PM
IP: spider-wg012.proxy.aol.com

Xanather- OH I got your letter!!! Thanks for sending it. *smiles* It got through with good timeing id say!

HEY green baron?? someone!!! *yells* can someone please let me email them with a pic or two of me and kaioto? we just got our piccies back and would like to share them *smiles* But nither of us can put up a link. THANKS!!
Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 06:21:57 PM
IP: milwb210-29.splitrock.net

SJ: Don't feel bad. I checked the preview guide on my cable system AND my satelite system, and they said different things. It REALLY dosn't surprise me that thier site was wrong. Most network sites are wrong at LEAST once a week.

Ads for Starship Troopers: They reminded me of Starcraft!

Todd: Nope. It is an animated show that was SUPPOSED to be directed (or somthing) by Greg Weisman.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 05:28:09 PM
IP: t2-11.visitus.net

ROSWELL - Is this the WB prime-time series about aliens in a high school, or something else with the same name?

As for "Mummies Alive", I always considered it a weak Egyptian-style rip-off of "Gargoyles". (Interestingly enough, they had a recurring comic-relief character in it, a policeman who was trying to get proof that the mummies were real, who bore an astonishing physical resemblance to Vinnie).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, August 27, 1999 05:23:09 PM
IP: sys.slpl.lib.mo.us

Roswell> Oh, so that's what it was. I was wondering why this seemed vaguely familiar. I was twisting my tail in knots trying to figure out what was going on. (Sci-Fi doesn't believe the West Coast exists; it came on at 4 in the morning here. I just caught the last 15 minutes of it.)

Mary Sue> I'm going from memory, but if I can rely on it for Jeopardy, I can rely on it here. Mary Sue is originated in Star Trek fanfics. She was a captain at age 16, had a body like a supermodel, intelligence like the Brain and was for all intents and purposes perfect. So perfect that the only reason she was in the fanfic was to talk to the characters. Since she had everything, she didn't need them for anything and aside from the men drooling all over the bulkheads, there was little they needed from her. Since then, I've heard it used to describe characters that are too perfect and well adjusted, who can be thrown into a lake and come out dry.

Normally I avoid those characters, it interfers with my other great pasttime; torturing Brooklyn with romantic entanglements. But as I look around, I see a few other characters who could use my brand of spice. Hope that help.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Brea, CA, USA
Friday, August 27, 1999 05:15:31 PM
IP: wwweic.engineering.csupomona.edu

Mandolin> Thanks for your interest in my story. Glad your network drop is working. Net withdrawl is a terrible thing.

As you might have noticed, my new episode isn't on the fanfic page yet. That's because I haven't sent it to my editor for proofreading yet. Which brings us to...

Delphi> FL3 is finished. I'd send it to you to read, but as I recall, you want me to send it to a different address than the one you usually post. Last night, I think I accidentally deleted it from my address book. Oops. E-mail me as soon as it's convienant, and I'll be more careful this time.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, August 27, 1999 04:49:38 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

My network drop is working! My network drop is working! And in case you missed it the first two times... my network drop is working! Whee!!!! Sorry, just had to share my joy.

Pistoff> Now that I'm definitely back, thanks!

Aaron> "Mary Sue" has been around as long as I've been into fanfic... I'm not entirely sure, but I've been told the term originated in Star Trek fanfiction. Anyone?

Roswell> Got up in time to watch part 2 of the pilot. Let's just say I liked Greg's version a LOT better. I don't know, Greg's version was funnier, kept the Alliance a bit better shadowed, and in his pilot the main guy used his ingenuity to help beat off the aliens... not by stealing a big-ass tank. Unless you're the guy in the tank, that really took the fun out of the battle scenes.

Okay, going down to check out the dining hall for an early dinner... if nothing else, I'll steal an English muffin or something. I have enough boxes of mac and cheese to keep me going on bad dinner nights.
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 04:07:45 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

The following is an excerpt from Beavis and Butthead's Travel Log (Huh-huh you said- Shut up dumb@$$!)

"Those congressmen are buttmunches. They're always saying there's too much violence on TV. No there's not. There're too many dumb talkshows where wussy people whine about their dumb@$$ problems."

It worries me when I start agreeing with these two.

Adrienne> Actually that whole "We're doing our part" sequence in Starship Troopers is taken from a WWII-era german propaganda film.

Robby><<It's too cute to be a mutate.>> Get's smacked upside the head by Maggie or Sharon. I had a Creativity Demon like that once. It went something like this...

Sevarius is working in his lab, late one night. We see him flip some switches, turns some wheels, throw open the switches on the sonic oscillator, etc. Then we cut to a bandage-wrapped figure floating in a cloning tube. Sevarius vents the fluid in the tube and releases the creature onto a lab table, which is the first time we see the creature with something to give it scale, showing us that it's quite small.

Sevarius: "I've done it! I have created a whole new lifeform! But this is only the beginning. Soon I shall have an army of these creatures, and with them I shall rule the world! Or at least Manhatten, anyway. Speak, my creation!"

Creature: "Pikachu."

Does anyone know where the expression Mary Sue fics comes from?

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, August 27, 1999 11:00:30 AM
IP: ppp-9.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Well, I'm sorry guys. In a swerve, the Sci-Fi channel has decided to wait till MONDAY to begin their new block of weekday morning programming. I feel bad about this, even though it wasn't under my control, because I told all you guys that it was gonna start today and it didn't. In my defense, I can say that as late as Wednsday (the last time I checked the Sci-Fi channel site), they still listed Starship Troopers and the rest as debuting Friday. Sorry if I made some of guys get up early for nothing, but I suppose you at least got a look at that Roswell show that was supposed to have been done by Greg or something...

I'm actually glad that the show didn't debut today after all, cause I slept in till 10 a.m., and the damn VCR didn't tape for some reason, so I wouldn't have caught the shows even if it did debut.

BTW, I'm sure that Todd will be overjoyed to hear that Mummies Alive comes on right after Troopers ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:31:50 AM
IP: 207-172-119-137.s137.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Shameless plug____*****************************************************

Sj, Kitania, Reverend Attila-- if you have not- read the first chapter of my story "Misbegotten Son Saga" -- there are religious refrences in it as well.

I hope to have chapter 2 up in the next few weeks--- and I'll probally make some comments in my CR tonight
******************************************************************************end of shamless plug
Jenna
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:21:29 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

For once I'm glad I didn't have the scifi channel-- I didn't have to endure seeing Roswell- of those who heard the radio play, and saw this ep-- how much did they rip Wiesmen off?

Kitania-- I agree. I like think it's ok when God is shown in secular stories if he is shown in a mysterious way, or in allagory-- (ie Chronicles of Narnia). Alot of preople laugh at this, but one of the most spritual movies I have ever seen is Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Indy's last Cruesade-- but esp the first, in the final scene when the ark is opened. That really got to me as a kid-- I have that whole scene memorized. And the music of that movie was awesome- that type of awesome power- you don't see it very often shown in movies, books, ect. People are just too scared I guess.....

Reverend Attila-- It would depend on how it's done-- but I don't see a problem with it if done the right way. You may want to do reseach into the Virgin of Guadelupe if your thinking about writng about something like that.

Servius Jr-- Totally agree with you about the dog thing. A couple of years ago I was alone in my Mom's house in Corpus and I had a dog. I was sleeping, and suddenly my dog- Loki-- started barking so fiercely he was foaming at the mouth. (he was inside with me) Any way, I heard a guy yell, and I turned in direction of the sound--to see there were two guys trying to break in my window. They ran off. I called the cops, but they never found them-- If it wasn't for my dog-- I don't know what would have happened. Ever since then, I've always had dogs-- I have two now. But there more than my personal body guards-- there like my kids-- I could laugh for hours at the funny things they do-- theyre a riot--

So needless to say, I'm a shameless dog person.

Jenna
Friday, August 27, 1999 10:16:02 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Jewel: No problem. I TOTALLY understand! (My computer crashed roughly 9 times before I said the hell with it and went to my laptop.)

Roswell Conspiracy: It sucked. They TOTALLY re-wrote Greg's idea.

Robby: Nope, Starship Troopers wasn't on, but wern't those ads SO cool?

<ANNIHILATE//REMOVER-OF-CONSCIOUSNESS>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 09:20:30 AM
IP: t2-30.visitus.net

Wilex>>>>that's the point if your too busy picturing them in there uddies be it good or bad or grossse---then you can't be worrying about other things

Pistoff>>>>okay perhaps intimidation is how you create a good working invironment sp? <rubber gloves>>> have to remeber that

David G>>> congrats on finishing your story

gotta run
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, August 27, 1999 08:42:30 AM
IP: 207.14.195.70

Been up sonce 6:30 watching the Sci-Fi channel's new animation block. DOn't know if Starship Troopers came on before that, or if its coming later, but so far they shown previews for a show called "Monster Rancher", another Pokemon ri[p off, but at least this one looks to have decent animation and a real story.

The interesting not though is Roswell. WHile a clear rip off of Men In Black, those of us who attended Gathering 99 know something about it. Greg Weisman wrote the original script for the pilot. (Its what we read during the radion show) But sinmce Greg's not on it, so far I haven't been too impressed. It *almost* has that fun quality of gargs and Greg, but something is just... Lacking that makes seem like standard Saturday morning fare. Pity Greg was kicked off, as was Thom Adcox Hernandez, whom Greg had created a specific character for. More accurate review later, I gotta prepare for school now...
Robby
Friday, August 27, 1999 08:40:47 AM
IP: spider-wl024.proxy.aol.com

**RP!**

[On the Avatar Of Ganon, Fleur is speaking with Wilek, when the room's comm panel signals an incoming call. Wilek: "Be right back. <answers> This is Nereus." Doug: "Wilek? It's us." Wilek: "Oh, hey. Run into trouble?" Doug: "No, just thought we'd check in. We've found a room for the night." Wilek: "Kewl." Doug: "Yeah, the hotel looks pretty nice. We're about to start unloading our luggage; we'll call again right before we meet with Corax." Wilek: "Sure thing."]

**END RP!**

Fire Storm> :O This bit#$ has a place reserved for her in the Inferno. NO ONE treats one of US that way and gets away with it. >:( <<From what I have heard from other employees at other stores, these are NOT entirely isolated events. The store managers don't always treat employees nicely, and Corporate dosn't seem to care.>> What?! Is there an organization that takes care of this kind of thing? The Better Business Bureau or something? <<Sleeping patterns: You have a sleeping pattern?>> Heh...only in the loosest sense of the word. Sometimes I go to sleep rather early in the evening and wake up at about 4:00 (like tonight), sometimes I'm up all night and go to sleep in the afternoon. Bizarre, no? <<Some of them really didn't belive in bathing for "religious reasons.">> o_O Vampires, perhaps? :P

Delphi> <<Five percent of the population purchases ninety-five percent of all the books. The other ninety-five purchase the other five percent of the books. They don't have time to read them. They give them away as gifts.
So, which catagory do you fall into>> The former, definitely. I ran out of space for all my books long ago. <<A great public speaking technique to overcome stage fright---imagine them all running a round in their unddies>> Heh...the effect of that depends on who's in the audience. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that an attractive member of one's gender of preference is in the audience. It'd be hard to concentrate. Then let's imagine that, say, Rush Limbaugh or Rosanne (Barr? Arnold? whatever her last name is) is in the audience. Heh heh heh. I'm a sick little thing.

Xanathar> <<Anybody here remember and old game called System Shock? a sequel has just been realeased>> I've heard of that. I may be getting it soon.

Christine> Woah...that's even weirder than the inspiration for some of my fics. :)

Blue Caeru> <<I had the flu like 3 times, and I was exhausted and fell behind in all my classes. And they were tough ones, IMHO. This past spring term was a major reason why I changed majors. So I went from a microbiology major who could have had a future in medicine or research to a sociology major with no apparent career yet. "Squeegee your windshield for ya?">> ACK. If you couldn't do the work because you were sick, shouldn't they let you make up for it? <sigh> I forgot, this is a school; they don't think logically... <> It does that to people. There are unfortunate students who have gone right off the deep end because of problems with school.

Taleweaver> <<The Maza family? How comfortable do you think Peter and Diane are with their children up to their eyeballs in weirdness.>> Well...that entire bloodline seems immersed in weirdness, which they're just beginning to realize, so I think they'll get used to it. :)

Jackal> <<My Komputer died yall. It went to the big motherboard in the sky.>> ACK! That's happened to me, and I deeply sympathize. <shudder> I still have nightmares... <<Ok, let me ask yall something, Yall know Win2000 is about to be out, right? Well, should I wait to get a new Komputer that already has it installed or should I go ahead and get another one.>> Well...that depends on when Win2000 will be out. If it'll be months until then, then go ahead and get a new comp. But if you do so, then whatever you do, don't install a new operating system. That tends to destabilize the computer.

Kyryn> I think I forgot before (I'm dumb!)> Happy birthday! ^_^ <<The short story is that our transformer took a direct lightning strike a couple of weeks ago and fried Okami's motherboard and modem.>> Horrid flashback! That happened to me! Except I didn't have a modem back then, so it just fried my motherboard. That was a nightmare. It got repaired, but the repair itself led to the computer's eventual demise...

Nightwalker> <> <sigh> I am the exact same way. <<we don't even have to take showers this year , next year though.....>> Ugh. Can't you protest or something? Say it's against your beliefs? <<Anybody hear anything about Stigmata?>> I have, and it sounds very kewl. I have a thing for theological horror. ^_^

Heather> <<Sleeping Beauty changed to a male cow we called Bovine. The Charming Prince is a female Boviness (girl), the three faires were two fairy chickens...I was one of them. And I had to wear my ROTC unfirom today too! The evil witch and her henchmen were changed to an evil black cat and her squeeky toy.>> <LOL> :)

Zath> <<Well, I don�t know how to do that yet, but I�m signed up for a 3-D modeling course this semester and my first class is on Monday.>> Kewl. I'll ask again in a few years. ;) <<X-Files has some pretty bad ones too. Skinner/Cancerman?>> ECCH! EW! ACK! ACK! ACK! ACK!

Mandolin> <<The cable provider for Frederick doesn't carry Cartoon Network!>> Oh you poor thing. CN is one of the best networks out there. Maybe you should nag the cable company until they wake up and start carrying some high-class programming. :)

$Robby> The new guy is a cyborg smurf?! I KNEW THEY WERE EVIL! I KNEW IT! 8P $

Coyote> NEW WCC FIC! EEEEEEE! <dashes off to read, returns with a tear in his eye> That...was so...brilliant... <<But the copy of the update announcement I sent to Ravyn got bounced.>> Oh no...I hope it's just some kind of temporary e-mail problem...

Doug and Kit> Welcome back! :D <<As for Doug's problem, he needs a tonsilectomy, he'll probably have it done later this year>> Ack. <shudder> Hope it goes well. <> Me as well! Where has he been...?

SJ> <<Snow White: Tale of Terror-- ARRRRGHHHH!!!! Doesn't anybody remember me recommending this film in here a whole 3 MONTHS AGO????>> I remember it being mentioned, I just didn't remember who. Evidence of a decaying mind. ;P <<Thanks for that great WoD site.>> You're welcome. :) <<I've always thought, if the dolphin is so damn smart, don't you think they'd be smart enough to stay the hell away from the damn net??>> Well, they do have bad eyesight, and nets don't show up well on sonar... Jar Jar Torture Engine> This *rocks*. :)

Pistoff> <<So I don't really care for or trust dogs, because they're so brainlessly obedient that if their owner says "Kill!" that's exactly what thy'll do. Or try to, at least....>> ACK. I like dogs and cats about the same, but this is the trouble with dogs--they're too easily manipulated by humans. (And you humans are too easily manipulated by cats. <G>)

**JOYRIDE!**

[Wilek shudders at the thought of Warpmind's bagpipe concert, then sets about tormenting the remaining Backstreet Boys. He drags one of them from his hiding place, rips out his intestines, fashions them into a crude whip, and sets about lashing mercilessly for a few minutes before ripping the irritating 'musician's spinal cord out through his mouth. Not wanting to hog all the fun, he then stands back and watches the others work their evil will upon the remaining Boys...]

**END**
Wilek Nereus
Friday, August 27, 1999 07:36:09 AM
IP: tnt-1-54-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Again, can't really post, gotta run--

Still apartment searching. Arrg.
Dad brought up the Rattling Deathtrap, then went hom. I tried it out yesterday. It turned off every single time I hit the brakes. How he got ithere, I have no idea. I have to go to PA this weekend, so I'm hitting teh rentla place again...and yes, they know me by name. I'm going shopping for a car when I get back.

Fire Storm--my computer has decided to stop reading the disk drive, so it'll be awhile beofre I can get that paper to you.

Paul-- Paul, I responded, check your e-mail. And it is a *damned* good thing you took it out of the CR. You attacked my friend, and I held no punches. I'm only going to say one thing here, and that's in response to what I saw here in the CR: Get some perspective. I write fanfic. I am not greater than pulizer prize winning novelists. And as for Christine/Turandot...your shoulders must be mighty round from patting yourself on the back, there. And this is the last I'm saying on it.
Jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Friday, August 27, 1999 06:59:13 AM
IP: 207-172-73-58.s58.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

NOTE!
According to my channel guide, "Roswell Conspiracys" will be on the Sci-Fi channel from 7am to 9am.
Those of you that went to the gathering 1999 are familiar with this show.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 06:52:06 AM
IP: 216.90.45.162

**Blinks drowsily when stepping into the CR, eyelids seemingly weighing in at five metric tonnes each.**

Hi.

Some of you, being the perceptive sentients you are, may have come to notice that my page has somehow ceased to be updated. This is because I don't have acces to the Internet from my own PC (a 486SX33 MHz, by the way - and it still works) and I am forced to use school systems. Unfortunately, most of the access ports are closed, including IRC, FTP, ICQ, IRS, ETC.... uh, well, you know what I mean... anyway, I've received assurances that this is only temporary. With a tad of luck (and a lot of bo practice), my page may be updated in a week. Including the Joyride.

JackaL: Windows 2000 worth waiting for? **Enters Sevarius mode.** No it wouldn't. Trust me on that. **Reverts.** Actually, during a test Microsoft ran, inviting some of the best hackers available to try and break into the Windows2000 server, none succeeded. This was due to the fact that the sever DIED before the hackers even had their computers up and running...

Jar Jar Torture Engine: Fun.

Cave of Magic: Hmmm... how de heck did he do dat? (And was it taped? If so, on dis tape or dat tape?)

Pardon the puns.

**JOYRIDE!**
The Joyriders in the basement are busy entertaining themselves with the remnants of Backstreet Boys, seemingly not caring about the buttload of policemen outside, when Xanathar suddenly realizes something.
"Uh, guys... where'd Warpmind go?"
Wilek looks around.
"Ohhhh, crapola... and Miriam is gone, too. I just hope he didn't try to hit on her."
Miriam comes rushing down the stairs, tossing what seems to be hearing aids to the group.
"Quickly, put these on, they're sonic filters. Warpmind asked me to help him set up something to repel the cops, this is gonna get ugly."
Looking quizzically, the gang plugs the filters in, and look around expectantly. The Backstreet Boys suddenly start twitching in agony, the Joyriders unaffected by whatever. Wilek removes one of his filters, blinks, grimaces and returns the filter to his ear.
"I'm not really all that religious, but THAT was the closest thing I've heard to Divine Punishment."
"What was it?"
"Not too sure, but if I really heard someone play Waltzing Matilda on the bagpipes, those cops are gonna disappear very, very fast."
Miriam stares at Wilek.
"Bagpipes? I thought he was planning to use a sonic cannon of some sort..."
"Oh, believe me, I'd rather take the cannon than this suffering... but while he's playing let's get back to business..."
The remaining Backstreet Boys whimper and try to withdraw into a dark corner, to no avail...
**TO BE CONTINUED**

As for the Maza kids being in weirdness to their eyeballs... well, I'm pretty sure they'd accept it, since there's a Trickster looking just like Peter Maza when he was younger, and Diane(?) Maza herself was there when they had to fight Anansi... so weirdness seems to be directly attracted to that bloodline, or something.

Well, catch ya later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 27, 1999 03:08:21 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Meow!!! Guess who's back.

Starsinger> I like your creation story, but GB may try attaching toast to me, now. He get supset when I start opening fire at him :)

Sevarius Jr> ::reads his post about cats, and sticks his middle claws at him, then moons him:: :p

SOROW> Actually, you sound perfect for GB, except for the age difference. He's never dated a girl taller than 5'2", so short's no problem with him :)

Coyote> Things will get better ::nuzzle::

Jenna> What do you think of putting the Virgin Mary in a fic as a sort of Queen of the Universe/Supermom character?

Shogun> $I await your RP ideas$
Reverend Attila - [revattila@garfiled.catsrule.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 01:31:36 AM
IP: 98a9d89e.ipt.aol.com

SJ > Liv Tyler as Arwen: unless they're planning on taking some liberties with the role, I wouldn't worry; Arwen had, what, four lines in the entire damn trilogy? It's Eowyn I wonder about; she's my fave femme from those books because she broke all the rules and actually kicked butt!

Hitchhiker's Guide > the first three are a must-read, IMO, the fourth is okay, and the fifth is a snore.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 12:28:00 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Wilek: Hmm, I hadn't thought of trying that. Maybe I will, when I have a little spare time to experiment. If I'm not too lazy, heheh. ;)

Fire Storm: Ack! You're right, that's hell. I hope you never have to go through anything like that again. **hugz**

Delphi: Interesting statistics, there. O_o I'm one of the five percent, myself. I've got four bookshelves crammed full and overflowing. And thanks for sending the "fun in Wal Mart" thing. LMAO! :)

JackaL: Sorry about your computer. Same thing happened to mine a few months ago, but it turned out okay. The thing that pissed me off is, the old, dead one cost me $1,300 when I bought it, and it was a bottom-of-the-barrel model. The one I got to replace it was only $600. And it has a 3GB hard drive, 32MB RAM, and a 350 mHz processor. :) So, in other words...never buy a computer from Fingerhut. Sure, the monthly payments aren't too bad, but you'll end up getting screwed anyway. O_o

Kyryn: Welcome back! It must've looked really cool when the lightning hit, but it's a damn shame about the computer. Glad you got it fixed, though. :)

Night Walker: Sorry about your troubles in school. I went through the same thing when I was a freshman. It won't last long if you play it right. A good way to start scaring the crap out of the juniors and seniors is to carry a pair of surgical gloves in your pocket. When you see one of your tormentors, pull the gloves out and slip them on slowly, with a huge, wide, radiant smile on your face, and stare straight into the guy's eyes when you do it. If that doesn't at least make them nervous, I don't know what will. :) It worked pretty well for me, anyway....

Zath: Welcome back! Nobody's ever asked you to do a commission before?? O.O Weird. Well, I'm glad to be the first, then. :D YAY! I'll email you later on, when I choose which one of Denis and my many characters would be a good starting point... And I'm not worried if it takes a long time. I'm way behind on stuff I should've done weeks ago, myself, heh. Anyway, thanks in advance!

Mandolin: Welcome back! :D

Coyote: <I'm trying to hang in there ... but my shoulders are starting to give out ... :(> Oh, man...I don't know what else to say except, we're here for you. **even more hugz**

Kitainia: Welcome back, to you and Doug, too! :D

SJ: <Dogs will rip out someone's throat for you on command.> I've noticed. I've had that nearly happen to me many times. Rednecks with their huge dogs running loose. Yeesh! There have been many times when I walked across some guy's front yard, just doing my job, trying to deliver his pizza, and I end up with a dog's teeth buried in my leg. Which turns out to be very unfortunate for the dog, and the owner if he wants to jump into it. I've had people stand there and laugh as their dog tries to gnaw me in half. A few people--only a few--keep their dogs chained up until I deliver the pizza and leave. But sometimes they get cocky, too. "Boy, he'd really getcha if he ever got loose!" And I just wrapped my fingers around the handle of my six-inch hunting knife and smiled and said, "No, he wouldn't. And he'd be damned sorry if he tried." So I don't really care for or trust dogs, because they're so brainlessly obedient that if their owner says "Kill!" that's exactly what thy'll do. Or try to, at least....

Oh, and good point about the dolphins vs. tuna. BTW, if dolphins are really that smart...why do they swim in circles and do tricks for humans? ;)

Oh, and...a Starsky and Hutch movie?!?! **pictures George Clooney running around in bell bottoms...** ehh...oh...ahh...ACK!!!! Run! Run like hell!!

And "Eaters of the Dead" does sound a helluva lot better than "The 13th Warrior." 13th Warrior sound like a pretty bland title...
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Friday, August 27, 1999 12:14:17 AM
IP: wire-1.koalas.com

<This is Lady Mystic's words>
SJ: The movie should only be named "Eaters of the Dead" if it is close to the book. Remember what they did to The Lost World? That movie should NOT have been named after the book.
<END LADY MYSTIC SPEAKING>

College: I started today, and I found out somthing about my compostion class. I have to finish some assignments DURING the class period. So I need to either:
1. Improve my handwriting by 5000% percent in a week
2. Change to a computer based class (ONLY available during the day, and I may be working at that time)
3. Get myself a laptop printer.
Since the teacher is pretty cool, I will TRY for #3.

<He-Who-Flies-Without-Wings and She-Who-Dances-With-Trout fly and dance out of the CR>
Fire Storm (Quoting Lady Mystic) - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Friday, August 27, 1999 12:07:57 AM
IP: 216.90.45.175

It's a few minutes to midnight... and I am bored out of my mind. A part of me, albeit a very small part, can't wait for classes to start Monday just for something to do.

David> New fic? Well, that'll give me something to do... :)

Coyote> Loved "Team Charlie," esp. the Sotanax scene *snerk!* I won't spoil it for everyone else, though. But I was wondering... three of my characters are in Team Delta, and would I be a pain in the ass if I made some suggestions via e-mail? Pleeease? Caitlin (aka Maia) is the only character I haven't fleshed out in a fic yet, and I haven't even gotten to that darn amulet of her mother's she has... well, you get the idea.

Doug and Kit> Glad you liked Bowfinger. As for your health - Doug, a tonsilectomy? My throat feels sore just thinking about it (at this point, any sort of surgery related to the mouth or throat makes me wince). I hope it works out for you.

Need to check my e-mail now... later all...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:50:01 PM
IP: 144.175.17.87

Attention please...

THE NEW FREELANCE EPISODE IS FINALLY FINISHED.

Thank you.

Actually, I still have to run spellcheck, and let my editor-people see it, but it's written. Anyway, I'm about to go to bed now. I'll try to make some witty, relevant, useful comments later.

I'll fail, but I will try.
David G - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:36:28 PM
IP: pppa48-fortworth13-3r235.saturn.bbn.com

Again, no RP. This weekend, though, thing will pick up.

***ENTERTAINMENT NEWS****
In a move that confuses me even more, the folks in Hollywood have decided to remake the old tv series "Starsky and Hutch" into a feature length film starring George Clooney. They've hired Faust to write the script.....I'm sorry, I meant Akiva Goldsman. Batman and other sci-fi genre fans know that Akiva is the man responsible (alongside Joel Schumacher) for turning the Batman franchise into some sort of gay fantasia, and bringing us such cinematic abortions as the "Lost in Space" movie. This guy has *got* to have sold his soul to the devil...

Lord of the Rings news: Well, in every bushel there's bound to be a few bad apples. Namely the news that LIV TYLER has been cast in the LOTR trilogy, reportedly in the role of Arwen. Now...I find Liv to be quite attractive, and a beautiful young lady to look at. I also don't think she has an acting bone in her body. I mean, I have yet to see her give a decent performance in anything....but I could be wrong. As I see it, I'm not exactly thrilled with this casting decision.
***END ENT NEWS****

BTW, I'd recommend seeing "Eaters of the Dead"....oops, I mean the "13th warrior", this weekend, it looks halfway decent. I know some people in here (Doug, possibly others) like the latter title. I see it as yet another way in which the gestapo-esque MPAA is trying to police movies. What, "Eaters of the Dead" is too graphic a title? Crichton named the damn book that!!! Besides, I'd much rather go see a film with a cool title like "Eaters of the Dead" than the so-so "13th Warrior". I hate you, Jack Valenti, and the fires are close for thee!!!

Snow White: Tale of Terror-- ARRRRGHHHH!!!! Doesn't anybody remember me recommending this film in here a whole 3 MONTHS AGO???? Regardless, it was a very good little dark fairy tale. I liked the development done on all the characters, including having the "wicked stepmother" not really being a villain _until_ the death of her child. All in all, I thought the film was nicely done, with good visuals and cinematography (loved that forest!), good scripting, and good performances. One of the rare gems in the video store that's actually worth picking up.

College stuff: Well, since others are chiming in with their stories, perhaps I should mention my first week of returning to classes.....dang it though, I didn't finish up but a month ago with my summer courses....
Anyway, the only remarkable things about this week was that I began taking the first courses for my major--Administration of Justice. That's right, I'm on my way to becoming one of the real "good guys", a law enforcement officer of some kind. Can you imagine that? Me, carrying a gun....*legally*? If that doesn't scare the sh!t out of you, if probably should! $ ^ . ^ $

Wilek: Thanks for that great WoD site. I remember stumbling upon it before in one of my many fumblings around the net searching for V:TM stuff, but I had forgotten the link. I'm thankful that you mentioned it in here. :)
Oh, um...*begins to sweat nervously* um....I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about with those k...k-k-k-killer toma-t-toes......yeah, plausible denialbility...I, um....or my father would never create something like t-that. We would never keep them chained up in the basement and feed them our enemies. *in the distance, hears several loud growls and the rattle of chains* I have to go feed my...dogs. Or something. Right now.

Cats vs. Dogs: With all due respect to our dear Starsinger, I've always favored dogs over cats. For the simple reason is that I don't trust felines (um...does that sound as ridiculous to you as it does to me? thoughts so). Dogs will die for you. Dogs will rip out someone's throat for you on command. Dogs will drag you out of a burning building. Cats on the other hand, give you that "screw you" look, then continue to lick their paws. Independent little buggers..... $ j/k! $

Pistoff: That Leary bit about cute animals sounds pretty funny, but I think it's definitely true. We do tend to care more about and relate to those animals we perceive to be more like us. Take dolphins for example. Everyone always goes, "we need to save the dolphins! The dolphins are being caught in the fishing nets!!" Never mind the poor tuna fish. The tuna are swimming around in the water going, "What the hell?! What about ME? I can do tricks!" BTW, I've always thought, if the dolphin is so damn smart, don't you think they'd be smart enough to stay the hell away from the damn net?? ;) j/k

And finally....for all you good people, cause I love you so much....click on my name to go to the Jar Jar Torture Game. Watch out for the R2D2 special attack!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:28:56 PM
IP: 207-172-54-161.s161.tnt16.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

night walker: <ALL THEY DO IS TALK , IT'S GOING TO DISTRACT ME FROM MY WORK>
Welcome to high school. Word of advice: Learn to ignore the stupid people, OR the ability to concentrate on work AND multiple conversations. (Helped me in math. I could do my work while listening to the teacher AND the other students.

Stigmata: Ya know... it DOES look halfway decent. BUT I am saving my money to take the person I love (Lady Mystic :) to see "The 13th Warrior." Now THAT looks kewl!

Mary Flanders: <Man, the showers at my high school haven't been used in decades>
Hell, some of the students at my old high school smelled like thier OWN showers at home haven't been used in decades (Or EVER)!
TRULY! Some of them really didn't belive in bathing for "religious reasons."

Delphi: <Instead of teaching the ones who are having trouble, they jump all over them when mistakes are made.>
Now WHY does that sound familiar?

<He-Who-Flys-Without-Wings exits the CR.>
<Hey, if THAT name was taken too, I would have chosen "He Who Fights With Sausages">
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:04:35 PM
IP: 216.90.45.175

Goodeve everyone
I will be very glad when this remodel at our store is done, we have such a mess in there right now. I've ended up in hardware, which perfectly okay with me I know the merchandise and some of the hardest people to work with are on the other side of the store. Thank goodness, it really bothers me when they come around and critize or bother my crew (a couple of them have no tact, and no teaching skills). We are dealing with alot of new people (about 40), and most have NEVER done anything like this at all. Instead of teaching the ones who are having trouble, they jump all over them when mistakes are made. There is absolutly no reason to do this to anyone, IMO. I've got one gal on my team who no one wanted, and it turns out she just needed extra encouragement and a little more time spent teaching her, she is now getting good at preping the new counter layouts for me and filling them. INTIMIDATION is not a good way to establish a great working environment. Wheeeh, well it feels good to get that off my chest.

Nightwalker>>>all those picking on you, A great public speaking technique to overcome stage fright---imagine them all running a round in their unddies---you can just bet most of them would be less than perfect and mortifided to find them selves in that position----They are not so different from you, they all have things they struggle at, things they hate, things they love, and troubles they need to deal with---in the end they are only human too!!!!
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Thursday, August 26, 1999 10:13:19 PM
IP: 207.14.200.105

**NO STARTING RP THIS POST, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME AT THE END!**

Hey everyone!! We're back! Our trip ended up being a day longer than we thought it would, but it was well worth it (if anyone's wondering, we left because our dads wanted to send us to the Mayo Clinic. Doug had his speech problem looked at and I was evaluated for an operation that could fix my infertility. The latter was still experimental, so we decided not to have it done yet. If it works on someone else first, maybe. As for Doug's problem, he needs a tonsilectomy, he'll probably have it done later this year.). Now we've returned home, somewhat healthier, and are ready to go back to school tomorrow (we had to miss the first two days of the new semester, hope it's easy to catch up!). On to all the stuff we've missed. :)

Mary: Thanks for the website link. As Doug said earlier, Davis looks like one of the best schools in the nation, and definitely one where the admintrators have their heads screwed on correctly. Hope it stays that way for quite a long time. Congrats to you and Dags!

Paul: I thought Zophar's arrogant lines did a great job establishing his character and thus were very enjoyable. Good quotes from him and Hiro, though I liked Traveler's parody lines better.

High School Grievances: I well remember suffering a lot of the things in high school that other people here have. I wasn't exactly an underdog, though. A lot of people looked up to me for various reasons, I made pretty good grades, and I was involved in a lot of clubs. I did do a lot of pranks and other crazy things, but other people got blamed for them more often than I did, so they weren't much of a problem. There were of course a few people I couldn't avoid pissing off, such as the in-crowd (with whom I refused to conform), the more authoritarian teachers, the local bullies (a few of whom I almost had to beat up), etc. They inflicted a lot of snubs, teasing, and other bad stuff on me, but because I didn't let it get to me I could deal with it. I had friends, and those people were not my friends. As long as I remembered that and that I had to stay with the people who were my friends, and that I had to be myself and not anyone else, I could keep from going completely crazy. And thus for me high school was somewhat bearable. :)

Christine: Congrats on your nephew and good job on the Obi-Wan fic. Sorry about your continued rejections, hope you find an agent soon.

Shogun: $ Got your RP messages, sounds like you have good plans so far. We're not planning to bring in Kang and Kodos when we get to Springfield, but you can if you like. As for Pastor John, yes, he has demonic hordes, but that doesn't mean he's going to use them at the upcoming battle. The WCOC and the base's gov't guard detail will be problems enough. Besides, PJ is serving a more powerful demon princess named Synatia. He can't use the hordes without her okay, so he corrupts crazy religious people like the WCOC to his side instead and uses them. Hope we can soon start the action. $

Welcome Irina (liked your post on tragedies) and other newcomers! Welcome back Lady Arianna, Blue Caeru, Jackal, and Green Baron!!

**Moment of silence for Brion James** It was his time, unfortunately.

Cute Toon Guys: Xanatos, Matt, Broadway, Brooklyn (Gargoyles), Man-At-Arms, King Randor (He-Man), Bruce Wayne (original Batman: TAS, the one in New Batman/Superman Adventures is a bit too middle-aged for my taste), Terry (Batman Beyond), Kraven, Richard Fisk (Spiderman), Alex, Kyle (Lunar Silver Star), Hiro (Lunar Eternal Blue), Squall (Final Fantasy 8), Graeme, George, Richard (TGS), Venturius/Winfang (Conan the Adventurer).

Barbarian Cartoons: Thundarr was pretty cool, but I didn't like his show as much as I liked Conan the Adventurer (though it did have a great mix of fantastic and modern stuff). Conan had better action and characters IMO. (BTW, everyone, it was SERPENT men who were the bad guys, not lizard men! And SJ, you've forgotten the Viking warrior, and the flying guy dressed like a falcon who were also numbered among Conan's pals.)

Mandi: Thanks for recommending Bowfinger. Doug and I saw it during our trip and thought it was much funnier than we had expected it to be. Heather Graham's lines were especially character-building (and hilarious too). 7/10, thumbs up. This weekend we plan on seeing Dudley Do-Right and The 13th Warrior. Hope they're good.

Kaioto: Glad you're feeling much better. If you want to join us in the RP, you're very welcome to do so. :) As for Jadriel, read Doug's fics "The Blackout," "The Hostage," and "Dragon's Game" to get a basic idea of what his character's like. He also has small parts in "Captives," "Vengeance," and "Goblins." Doug will probably say more about him in an upcoming post.

Irownwolf: Doug and I don't know what we're doing for Halloween yet. Ask us again in about a month and a half.

Jenna: I agree with you about God and fanfic. As long as He remains mysterious, is only mentioned now and then, and never acts except through those who are or call themselves his followers, it's okay to have the big guy take part in the action IMO.

NightWalker: Good choice of a new name. As for your parent situation, I am sorry to say I really don't know what to tell you. Except that what kind of life your family wants for you should not matter as much as the life you want for yourself. And to get her to watch Gargoyles, I recommend asking nicely and seeing what happens. That worked with my parents, who really like the show. You might also suggest to her that if she really wants to be able to find all its nits and other imperfections (and thus look good in front of your aunts, who may or may not have seen Gargoyles), she should watch at least one episode and critique it sometime. Take Theresa's and David G's advice too.

Happy Birthday Kyryn!!

Robby: $ The bad guy on Dark Star Two is a cyborg smurf? Sigh, I still don't know him. Wonder if he has a name. $ I too am worried about Dumlao.

Coyote: Haven't read Team Charlie yet but will soon. I have faith that it will be as good as the rest of WCC has been. :)

And that looks like all for now. I'm tired, so I must sleep. Hasta la vista, mis CR comprades!! <waves>

**TIME FOR A BIT OF RP**

After two long and pretty uneventful days of travel by highway, and a somewhat uncomfortable night camped out in a rest area, the Ravens finally arrive in Akron, Ohio. "I got another e-mail from Corax," Gubio tells Doug as they pass the city limits signs. "He'll meet us tomorrow at noon, in the Starbucks across the street from the Akron Civic Center." "Okay," Doug nods. "Guess we better get a place for the night in town, since we're all tired." "That place looks good," says Stephanie, pointing to a large motel called Shady Rest coming up on their right. It advertises low group rates, free HBO, and a swimming pool. "You're right," Kitainia tells her sister. "Can we check in there, Doug?" "Sure," the Ravens' leader replies. "We'll get rooms, then call Wilek and check in with him so he knows where we are. Then we can rest up for tomorrow." He turns the Taurus off the highway into the motel parking lot, Jammer following in his station wagon and Shogun's team in their vehicle. Boris and Elena bring up the rear on Kitainia's motorbike. Soon their vehicles are parked and the group is either unloading luggage or heading for the motel's front desk.

At a window of the high-rise across the street, a large bald African-American man in a dark suit lowers his binoculars and turns to the four similarly dressed white men in the same room with him. "They're here, boss," he says to their leader, a nondescript brown-haired man wearing large sunglasses and a sullen frown. Agent Tau takes the binoculars and looks for himself, then nods. "Good eye, Carver. Smith, call Kincaid and tell him we've sighted the Ravens. Jones, you and Brown make an equipment check, we're going in tonight." The other three government agents nod and begin complying with his instructions as the screen goes blank.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Kitainia
Thursday, August 26, 1999 10:10:24 PM
IP: pool-209-138-62-199.dlls.grid.net

Dang, I knew I forgot something ... WHEEL 'ER IN, BOYS!!!

**moving crew enters the room with another Execution cake. Hands the remote for this cake to Kyryn**

Happy birthday, milady Kyryn. Yes, I did manage to get it released in time. Here's your remote ... pick yer flavor.

**another moving crew brings in another cake**

What's this for??

**Rosanna makes her grand entrance.**

<"I don't believe you ... you forgot, didn't you??">

Heh ... I guess I did. Sorry. **hands Rosanna a remote** As I mentioned a couple weeks ago, this story was released today to coincide with the day of Rosanna's birth ... August 26th, 1999. So happy birthday, Rosanna ... pick yer flavor.

**Rosanna turns the cake into a chocolate-vanilla marble cake, then hands her creator a slice to show there's no hard feelings.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, August 26, 1999 09:58:57 PM
IP: modem6.i-is.com

Ack! I was hoping it was just a fluke the otherday... It seems *NO* midis can be run through geocities... Pooie.

Ah well, for a pretty decent Styx page full of their best midis, go to this addy.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Agency/7491/styx.html
Robby the CR DJ
Thursday, August 26, 1999 09:47:51 PM
IP: spider-we064.proxy.aol.com

I hate my computer! Why won't you load everything right, you worthless piece of @$#*&^! *sigh*

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KYRYN!

Mandolin> Yeah, cheerleaders suck. Believe me, I know. I was one of them for a year, and never again! Bunch of bitchy, fake little...

Night walker> Man, you have pretty much the exact same schedule that our school does. Don't worry, you'll really start to like block schedule cause you have more time to do homework. And don't worry about the uperclassmen (I'm a junior), they were once little fishies too :) Spanish? NNNNOOOO!!!!! Run for your life, get out while you still can! No me gusta espanol... no! Stop thinking about it! Breathe, breathe, breathe...

Coyote> You've seen Snow White: A Tale of Terror? Isn't it just awesome? I just watched it again a couple hours ago. What is the name of the guy Liliana likes with the scar? They never said it in the movie and I know I've seen him before...

JackaL> Awww, you wouldn't be able to stand me! Could you put up with a short, skinny, excessively happy, math retarded, really bad singer, stumpy, crazy little nerd like me? Get out while you still can ;) HUGZ But thanks for the thought!
SOROW
Thursday, August 26, 1999 09:45:03 PM
IP: dll2b110-14.splitrock.net

Adrienne- DumlaoX retired as room admin several months back when he just needed a break from gargs, (like much of the original TGS staff.) In his stead he named me and Deuce Co-Administrators. And since Deuce has taken a long term leave of absence, that leaves me with the title by myself. However, since I don't know how to do certain things, like update the CR archives or add new sections or pictures or whatnot, I basically serve as room wiper, peace keeper, sanity checker, and am still CR DJ, with the ability to ban if it ever becomes absolutley needed. But its easier to say CR Administrator than all of that...

Speaking of which...

"Mr. Roboto" by Styx.
Robby the CR DJ
Thursday, August 26, 1999 09:44:51 PM
IP: spider-we064.proxy.aol.com

Sci-fi animation> and just what is in this block of animation?
shogun raptor
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:51:32 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net

the whole dateline "teenagers sleeping in" business> OH horror and dread, my teenager doesn't want to wake up at the crack of dawn! Last I heard, the only things that get up at the crack of dawn are roosters, and last I checked, I am NOT, I say I am NOT Foghorn Leghorn! this is it, the proof we need, I say all of us under 35(and those over 35 who have some degree of sanity) go form our own nation, it's become more and more obvious that "the inmates are running the asylum" if you get my drift
shogun raptor
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:44:42 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

*snarls* Damn! Triple! Sorry...
Robby- *blinks* You're the CR administrator...WEll, I'd been gone for a while.....last I remember, DumlaoX was Administrator.....when did this happen? WHy? (not that ye're nae a great admin., jes' curious)
WEll, Au Revoirs!
Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:43:40 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

**enters the room, sighing. Switches out the candles, pulls a lawn chair out of his pocket and sits down.**

I should be happier. But I'm not.

Fic update: The newest story of WCC is now up. Clicky on my name link for "Team Charlie." And if you've got the GargoylesDM font, I've done some dressing up of the site just for you! :)

**sigh** But the copy of the update announcement I sent to Ravyn got bounced. :( **hides a stifled sob, then continues**

If it seems like I'm still sad, read the story and you'll understand why.

SOROW: I've seen "Snow White: A Tale of Terror." I thought it was great. :)

Pistoff: I'm trying to hang in there ... but my shoulders are starting to give out ... :(

Fire Storm: Eeehhhh ... bad timing strikes again, I'm afraid. Unless you're willing to take a side trip to the Murray's store in Chesterfield ... while I probably won't have a lot of time to chat, it'd be nice to see you two's.
On second thought, that might not be so great of an idea ... we'll try it again sometime.
Oh, and while you're at Gibraltar, stop by Will Signs (by the red entrance) and ask 'im about the insane guy with the gargoyle decals. :)

Lady Mystic: Oh, I had no idea! :)

Taleweaver: Hmm ... as I had it written in my cycle, they were close to all of their kids ... Beth lived at home with them when she was in New York (which happened to be at the time of the invasion), not sure about Derek but they would've been very open to him and all of the mutates, especially Maggie and Slash.
And as for Elisa ... well, I think Peter mentioned in "Honor Above All" that Rosanna always came by their condo for Sunday dinner ... and did the cooking.

JackaL: I say get a system with Win98 rather than the new system, because you know that a new OS is gonna be buggier than an ant farm.

Irina, re: animated guys: Hmm ... y'know, Gourry *did* make quite the attractive woman (even got a marriage proposal!! ;) ...

Night walker: Yes, it did to an extent. Thank you.

**exchanges winks with Heather before continuing ...**

Adrienne re: adventure show: Why do I think that the show you were thinking of was "Defenders of the Earth," which had Flash Gordon, the Phantom and Mandrake the Magician?

Mandi: **returns hugs**

Robby: In addition to whatever Spacebabie asks for, can ye post a link to "Come Sail Away?" I think I could go for that song about now ...

**sighs, glancing up at the candle, then fixating on it.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:38:23 PM
IP: modem6.i-is.com

Sorry aboot tha double post, y'awll...

Starship Troopers....well, this probably goes to show my *extreme* leftist bent, but..... I thought it was a societal spoof, and a very good and scary one at that......Showing th e American tendency towards xenophobia- basically, the horrors of pro-war propaganda.... I thought it was an allegory for Vietnam, with thousands of young oblivious Americans being sent to their unnecessary deaths, spouting patriotic bullshit all the way down.... Remember the War Effort video, where it showed a bunch of kids in the suburbs stomping cockroaches? (Mass hysteria) That *had* to be a take on McCarthyism. It was way too scary not to have been.....Right? <:0

Au Revoirs!
Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:35:44 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

Hei, Y'awll!

Gyre- Nope, it's one half the speed.....stone doesn't age. In Grief, Jackal aged Goliath and Angela to what would be virra decrepit (An' possibly dead) in *human* years....but they had tha strength to...(uhm...forgot what they did) becase they only aged half that amount.

Oh- If yuo haven't seen the Iron Giant yet and can, GO! NOW! I COMMAND THEE!

Bloody Hell! Forgot what I was going ta say!

Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:26:06 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

**Robby comes in and cracks his knuckles** Oii, I've been drawing for the last 5 hours or so... Between having to copy a page of Vampriella for Benn Dunn to show him I can copy, working on TGS stuff, and Wilek's pokemon, I'm quite busy with drawing... Compound on that creative writing for class, reading Beowulf, and writing stuff, not to mention my own personal free time stories... I'm quite busy all of a sudden... Really don't have the time to give the CR the time I was giving it like just last week... Pity.

RP bit- For those who have been wondering who the mysterious figure on the Dark Star Two is, I reveal that this RP...

Color test- At least it wasn't as bad as that one Sunday way back where I tested EVERY image just to see if it was working as a favor to Dumlao... Say, where *IS* Dumlao anyway?

Christine- Can't say I can sympathise with work being rejected, nothing I've ever done has been out and out rejected. Then again, I've never really submitted anything either...

Starship Troopers- Guess I need to set the VCR to just tape from 6 Am to 10 tomarrow...

Aaron- You, non threatening? I dunno... You had a sizeable ammount of anime knowledge at the Gathering... That could be quite threatening to someone not familiar with cartoons...

And I'm gonna try to make it to this month's SAAS meeting...

Animals with equal rights- I can agree with this... If its Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse or Bronx. Otherwise... No.

Hitchhiker's Guide movie- I am *NOT* looking forward to this. Since the remake will most likely have American actors, and not British ones. Not to mention, the guy who played Arthur Dent in the original television series was PERFECT! No one they get will do as well IMO, (Except maybe Tony Slatery of WHo's Line Is It Anyway fame...) and besides, what can you actually do to improve the movie, since the original practically stole the script straight out of the book? (Other than do better CGI sequences and special FX... And even then the low budget quality was half the fun. It'll be like Godzilla if it has up to date FX...)

Hitchhiker's book series- HILARIOUS STUFF. However, if you can find the movie, you can pretty much skip the first two books. Except for some tedious stuff and the last chapter, the movie covers the first two books almost word for word.

Sarge- Nice top 10 list... Personally I wanna see a gargs/Pokemon crossover...

"Is it a messed up mutate? I mean, its shooting electricity at us...."
"Nah, its too cute for a mutate..."
"PIKA!"

FS & LM- Dark Crystal on DVD eh? Okay... Personally I always thought that movie wasn't quite long enough... But I remember being real little when it used to get shown on television all the time, and I was so freakin SCARED of it!

Spacebabie- You want Styx midis? Okay, I can do that. Any particular song you want?

*RP HERE**

Aboard the Dark Star Two, the mysterious figure with the red glowing eyes chuckles, having already captured six pokemon. However, they are all Ratatats, and fairly useless. Still, they are enough to lure out other pokemon... The figure laughs evily, letting his mechanical red eyes glow, and the cyborg smurf knows his revenge will be coming soon.
Robby
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:03:39 PM
IP: spider-wj043.proxy.aol.com

Adrienne-Italian, I thought she was speaking latin.I got that notion because that little clip gave me the same kind of chills that gargoyles gave me when someone was speaking latin . And did you see the comercial where they show all of the clips and then the guy says Stigmata,and then you see this really quick shot of her screaming and doctors are trying to restrain her. But in that extremly quick shot they reddened it to make it look scarier. I liked that.I hope I see it tomorrow . If I do I'll try to make an okay review.Oh and thanx for the E-mail.I just sent you a reply.Like i said I would.

Mary Flanders-Thanx for yer words of encouragement. The only bad part is making friends , today I just kind of slid into the krowd without anyone noticing, I bet tomorrow will be better.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Thursday, August 26, 1999 07:21:56 PM
IP: proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net

GEEEEZ! I have been gone TOO long! (Three whole days!) :)

Anyway, it looks like it'll be forever until ny network drop is activated... so I'm posting from the Coblentz Hall computer room, on a PC running Win NT that only lets me see 16 colors (and all the posts look the same!) So I'm playing half-hearted catchup here. :)

First off... STORMY'S BACK!! **bowls poor Stormy over with hugs** I've had quite a bit of sugar lately, sorry.

Lexy> Please EM me the address to send the money to and I will... Hotmail's been irritating lately.

Happy birthday Kyryn! :)

Jewel> Congrats on the job offer - hey, it's something you'd actually LIKE doing, that's definitely a plus!

Coyote> Okay, I know it's major delayed reaction time, but... **hugs him anyway**

Starship Troopers> Thank goodness I get Sci-Fi here! Because you know what? If you recall the ReBoot discussions in here a while back, they got me interested in watching 'em on Cartoon Network... the episode right before the one where Matrix runs into Bob aired Monday, and I figured I'd get to watch the next one after I moved in on Tuesday. Well, guess what? The cable provider for Frederick doesn't carry Cartoon Network! Aggh! :)

Animal Rights> I'm not touching this; I had to do a presentation on animal rights for Honors my freshman year, and to keep the class's attention, our presentation got a little... strange, to say the least. :)

**RAMBLING ABOUT MANDI'S FIRST FEW DAYS BACK BEGINS**

Okay... everyone knows about my Cartoon Network woes, so I'll skip that. It took me, Mom, and Chris about 5 hours to get all my stuff packed in my room (my own room! yay!) especially since Mom and I didn't agree about where half the stuff should go. I'll probably rearrange it about six times before I'm completely happy, knowing me; besides, I've got to wait a month to get a "real" carpet square. Then I'll seriously mess with the room.

I was assigned two Little Sisters from the freshman class. (I wrote a note in the corner of my Big Sis/Little Sis matchup questionnaire: "If in doubt, put me together with a sci-fi nut. And no former cheerleaders!" Don't ask me why, I never seem to get along with former cheerleaders.) Fortunately, I got along with both of them; one is a Buffy fanatic, which helped. Saturday is Pergola Party, but here they wait until they herd the freshmen out of the hall before the squirt guns and shaving cream are unleashed. I armed both of my Little Sisters with water guns. I don't see the point of shooting a water gun at someone who can't shoot back. Where's the fun in that? (Senior year a couple of my friends and I have decided we're going to try to arm the entire freshman class. If not, at least arm the freshmen in Meyran Hall; the upperclassmen there are nasty!)

I pretty much have spent most of my time with my Little Sisters or trying to slowly get my disaster area of a room in order. I really can't wait til my network drop is activated; it's a bit of a hassle having to use the lab computers.

**END POINTLESS RAMBLINGS ABOUT COLLEGE**

Sorry about that. I'm just finding it hard to believe I'm a junior. I think the fact that I am actually in my early twenties hit when I found out that my cousin, who's turning thirty, is dating someone my age. Considering I recall when I was a preschooler and he was a teenager, it's just weird!

All right, that's all. Time to muddle through the standard college e-mail program....
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 07:15:03 PM
IP: 144.175.17.87

Night Walker>Don't pay us juniors and seniors any mind. We just like doing those things to make the young ones skittish about their first day of high school. >:P You'll have to take showers????? Man, the showers at my high school haven't been used in decades, literally! We just kind of stink after P.E. for the rest of the day.
Mary Flanders
Thursday, August 26, 1999 06:42:33 PM
IP: stk-ts3-h2-20-142.ispmodems.net

Adrienne>A slight correction. Gargoyles age at half the rate of humans, so 30 garg years is the equivalent of 60 human years.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 06:36:17 PM
IP: fltg2-ppp38.fltg.net

Ah, the joys of being online again. On the plus side, I can now catch up on the room (which I haven�t finished doing yet). On the minus side, I have to do it from the computer lab where I have to deal with people reading over my shoulder, the clicking of a hundred other keyboards, having to use a mac and a different browser, etc. Oh well, it�s good to be back. So far, I�m only caught up through last week. Hopefully, I�ll have time to do more tomorrow.

Pistoff> <<Say, do you do commissions?>> Wow, thanks! As far as commissions go, no one�s ever wanted a commission from me before. I could give it a try, but depending on what you want, the quality could really vary (for some reason, some characters refuse to look right, I guess I need more practice). If you want something, e-mail me and I�ll see what I can do (although it may take a while.)

Shogun raptor> <<Xanatos: whoever said I was looking for immortality? I just want to see if I can use the stuff to see if it can stop my going bald>> **snicker**

Aaron> <<BTW, whereabouts in South TX are you?>> I had been in Victoria, but now I�m in Los Angeles, CA,

Delphi> <<"Supercauliflowercheesebuteggswerequiteatrocious!">> **groan**

Wilek> <<if I knew a really good 3D artist who took free commissions, I'd have him/her do a render of me.>> Well, I don�t know how to do that yet, but I�m signed up for a 3-D modeling course this semester and my first class is on Monday. : )

Irina> <<The other day, I had a shift, and I had to work with a couple of people who took me around the store, pointing to items and asking what the price tags said. This took about a half an hour. Then they took me Back through the store, asking what everything was.>> Maybe it was another one of those *@&$# psych tests. <<As for relationships between characters, I think Star Trek has some of the worst ones ever to be postulated by fans>> X-Files has some pretty bad ones too. Skinner/Cancerman? Eeewwwww�

SJ> <<Peter Jackson's "Dead Alive">> I loved that movie, especially the guts that were crawling around strangling people with the intestines. <<Another book in the Ender series is to be expected sometime in September, entitled "Ender's Shadow">> That series has really gone down hill. I�m probably not going to bother reading this one because the last two were so bad I actually regretted wasting several hours of my life to read them.

I think that�s all for the moment. I�ll reply to the more recent stuff soon. Bye for now.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 05:49:36 PM
IP: lvl-mac025.usc.edu

Hei, Y'awll!

Christine- not that I would actually do it, but......30 in Garg years is 15 in human years...... ;)

Stigmata-.....hmmm. It didn't look particularly good or intersting until the demon started talking...in Italian. ("something something something no se Importante...") I thought, oooooh, kewl! I dinna know virra much aboot excorcist-type movies, but I really like that....wasn't there a rather dark foreign movie a few years back about a preacher running around Italy trying to stop either the Antichrist (Good Omens, yay!) or Armaggedon? Hmmm....*scary*, Stigmata, though.

*sigh* The Red Hot Chili Peppers rock. :)
WEyall, Au Revoirs!
Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 05:10:44 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

Anybody hear anything about Stigmata?It's an exorsism type movie thats supposed to open tomorrow. I wanted to do a review of it before anyone else. I wanted this to be my first movie review in here.I've wanted to seethis movie for months.

Also bjork's on the sountrack.
night walker
Thursday, August 26, 1999 03:39:38 PM
IP: proxy-423.public.paix.webtv.net

**walks in**
Hi, sorry I haven't been posting. Been busy with counseling, ROTC, and my Drama class. Today I had a short fairy tale parody that my group (all of them are cool) and I did. We did a pantamime parody of Sleeping Beauty. But instead of humans being the characters we used animals.
Sleeping Beauty changed to a male cow we called Bovine. The Charming Prince is a female Boviness (girl), the three faires were two fairy chickens...I was one of them. And I had to wear my ROTC unfirom today too! The evil witch and her henchmen were changed to an evil black cat and her squeeky toy.
We got a good grade out of it. We're just kinda sad that it's all over now. But tomorrow we're going to watch two groups do "The Wizard of Oz" and "Cinderella".

On another note about being busy...Robby has been keeping me busy. **looks at Lexy, Coyote, and Kaioto** And they know why too. **smiles and gives Lexy a high five**
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 03:35:00 PM
IP: 98ceb787.ipt.aol.com

Oh yeah, I forgot. As for the episode i hope to show my mother , I don't have the best selection. The three tapes that were sucked into the uknown contained all of my fave eps. They had All of city of stone , parts 3-5 of the awakening, future tense ,both parts of the gathering, and countless other favorites.I'm just glad that I still have the hound of ulster and heretige, two of my other favorites. My selection is limited, but I'll find something.
night walker - [goliath01hotmail.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 03:33:30 PM
IP: proxy-423.public.paix.webtv.net

Hey all of my rookery brothers and sisters.Just a few short questions/responses and then I'll get to the events of my day[if anyone cares to look further] .

Blue Caeru-Always glad to see a new face[to me not the CR],one question, What funds? I didn't know that you have to pay to get into the gathering . How much?

As the youngest member of the CR I have a right to act confused , I think.

David G.-you did help , thanx for yer kind words.

Starsinger-addy=adress?Then I guess it would be something like Goliath2001@webtv.net . I would love to do cartoon/art work , but the thing is , I can't even draw stick figures well. Writtings more of my thing. My hand just isn't up to it[art]. But I guess if you could read my mind you would see some pretty weird things, thanx to the loss of sanity.

Delphi-Yes I have hugged my mother today. Right before I got out the door this morning.I was very nervous at the time and a hug really helped. I'm still nervous. I need another hug now , anyone?Oh,well It's nice to know that so many people are trying to help me with this problem.We really do care alot for each other, she just always seems either too busy or too tired to watch my shows. It just seems wierd that she seems to make time to watch my brothers shows. Maybe it's because he's younger , or more persistant.
Cristine-Are you really a published writer? What genre are your books of? And what are the titles? I'm interested already in them.

Coyote-I'm glad that you feel better , I hope that what we said helped.

Wilek-<<Gargoyles being an odd pokemon race>>Who said that? Well here's a little question for everyone, two actually. What would you get if you put Pikachu in an arena With Goliath on a BAD day. Here's the awnser , a very satisfied Goliath and little pieces of pika pika all over the place. And wasn't Gargoyles created a year before Pokemon. I thought that the show was created in '95.

MEDIUM SIZED RANT-Well , today I began my Freshman year of high school and if I could sumarize it all in one word here's what it would be , BRIEF. Not only because it was a minimum day [it ended at 10:30] but my train of thought seemed to lurk elsewhere, and thats never happened to me before. As I was going to say to Delphi And Starsinger before the CR stalled[about a half hour ago] I'm usually a very good student. I've been on the honor roll every year since 3RD grade exept for 6TH and one of the three schools I went to last year, And I've never just blanked out like that.I guess it was partially because we were reading out of the student handbook the whole day but it was mostly because of the pressure I was going through.Every three seconds I was hearing some Junior or Senior look at one of us poor Freshman lick his chops and say "fresh meat". It was mostly in my Algebra class [which also happened to be the last class of the day]. It's not like I wasn't paying attention though. I heard everything that was said, it just seemed to be from a distance, that will not happen again . Anyway my schedual is pretty good. They have this four block system , it's where you have four 87 min. classes . And my electives are pretty neat , I was able to choose world music, world cultures, intro to buisness, and Spanish. The only real problem for this semester is my algebra class. Generally, it's a freshman class[I'm in algebra 1, I wasn't put in with the so called "dumb" kids in algebra 1/2] , but it's only half freshmen. The rest of the class is about 3 senoirs , 7 juniors , and about 15 sophmores. ALL THEY DO IS TALK , IT'S GOING TO DISTRACT ME FROM MY WORK,but I'll be mature about it and ignore them. Also this years freshmen P.E. class play societys' guinne pig . It's actully a co-ed class , and I'm told thats a good thing , we don't even have to take showers this year , next year though..... I was kind of disapointed at that though , I had spent years of training myself to ignore otheres in public showers still , that is a good thing, everyone else is terrified.Everythings okay , exept now I have to worry about friends , this'll be my 15th time having to get adusted to a new town.It always takes a long time to get friends because as I found out , the more attractive you are , the more popularity seems to come your way.

Alright , I'm starting to feel a bit sad because of the flashbacks , but I'll be alright. Remember , I love E-mail and rarely get any , any kind , I don't care what.

Oh, and starting tomorrow I get off of school at 2:30.

Days like this I don't know what to do with myself, all day, and all night. I wander the halls along the walls and under my breath I say to myself I need fuel to take flight.
Fiona Apple-Sullen Girl

One more thing , you like magic[we all do] , you like the unexplained[again, we all do] Then either clickie on my name or go to www3.mcps.k12.md.us/users/rsfay/magic/index.html
Go to the cave of magic.It's bizzare.Bye for now.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Thursday, August 26, 1999 03:23:11 PM
IP: proxy-423.public.paix.webtv.net

Um, that's supposed to Irina, not Irma. Many appoligies.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, August 26, 1999 02:51:59 PM
IP: ppp-239.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Hmmm, leafing through my behind the scenes of Detroit Rock City mag, and I noticed that Gene Simmons, the guy from Kiss with the tongue, has a costume with what look like black leather versions of Lex's wings. It's really cool looking.

The seventh Preacher trade paperback, containing issues 41-48 is out, for anyone who likes Preacher.

Pistoff> You're probably right about the intern. And as for cats and dogs, well, I love dogs, but I think cats may be smarter. You cannot get eight cats to pull a sled through snow.

Irma> Hot animated guys? Um, Fushigi Yugi (sp) is referred to by people I know as Miaka and the Pretty Boy Club.

Robby> Thanks to you I can fake like I know about Dragonball Z, despite having never seen an episode in my life. And the SAAS meeting is this sunday the AMC bowling lanes at 281 and Bitters from noon to 10:00 pm.

Later.

Aaron wanders off, whistling the theme from Patton.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, August 26, 1999 02:49:39 PM
IP: ppp-239.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

***WARNING DIS CONNECT DEATH***

**Dis Connect and Connection Denied both run into the room, slam the door behind them, and frantically look for a place to hide. The door is kicked open and Kyryn stands there with a BFG. She sights in on the two problem causers and fires. They slowly disintegrate from the feet up.**

***END DEATH***

That was satisfying. Hey all! I'm back. The short story is that our transformer took a direct lightning strike a couple of weeks ago and fried Okami's motherboard and modem. The modem on my machine wasn't working and I had to wait until my birthday to get a new motherboard and modem. Apologies to anyone who's had trouble contacting me.

Thanks for the good birthday wishes! I'll be back later. I've got to go catch up on email and stuff.

Later all!

***Kyryn hefts the BFG on one shoulder, then turns and saunters out of the room.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, August 26, 1999 01:22:34 PM
IP: 208.15.1.5

Aww..., Sorow blew me off. :o( ::sniff, sniff::

But, as far as my depression goes.., I'm on Zoloft now, so I'll be fine!

Thank you all for caring though! I'll be fine! YaY!

What else was I gonna say? Yeah..., come to think of it nevermind, I was gonna say something about the animal rights stuff..., Puppies is all I'm gonna say.

My Komputer died yall. It went to the big motherboard in the sky. So that's why I'm using the library's Komputer..., I like their Komp.., I wanna take it home with me.
Ok, let me ask yall something, Yall know Win2000 is about to be out, right? Well, should I wait to get a new Komputer that already has it installed or should I go ahead and get another one. (That's the majority of the reason I haven't been in here all that much- My Komp is dead).

Anyway, I'll talk to yall later, see ya byes!!
JackaL - [Sucdeth89@aol.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 01:00:39 PM
IP: 168.28.72.152

Less-seen cartoons> Hi all. I'm just catching up here. I have seen a lot of the series talked about. I like Conan, a bit mad at myself for not taping it now. One of the things I like was that it had more than one storyline and the characters distinct and memorable. I also saw Phantom 2040. It was on in the middle of the day on Saturday on one of the local station. In a big market area like LA, that's writing on the wall that you won't be around long. It was interesting, but the animation style turned me off. It wasn't bad, it just distracted me from the story. I myself wouldn't mind seeing Max Headroom again. I heard it was on the Sci-fi channel, but at some early morning hour were it's main competition is Ron Popeel and the Miracle Thaw.

Gargoyle question> It wouldn't be a post without something involving gargoyles. The Maza family? How comfortable do you think Peter and Diane are with their children up to their eyeballs in weirdness. I was just wondering if as parents how would they feel or if they'd try and do something.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:56:26 PM
IP: 134.71.32.54

Wilek> Actually, I didn't complete enough hours for the scholarship because I withdrew from school. I had the flu like 3 times, and I was exhausted and fell behind in all my classes. And they were tough ones, IMHO. This past spring term was a major reason why I changed majors. So I went from a microbiology major who could have had a future in medicine or research to a sociology major with no apparent career yet. "Squeegee your windshield for ya?"

I talked to my mother yesterday, and she had to give me the lecture about how I give up too easily and the requisite pep talk afterwards. I think she's right, I do give up too easily. I don't think I've felt really determined to do anything since my hellish junior year in high school when I got smacked around too many times by life in general. *sigh* Sorry to keep dumping on you guys. :-(

Phantom 2040> I remember that show; I liked it. I asked more than a month ago if anyone else around here had seen it. I've looked around for websites about it, but there are surprisingly few.

Welcome back to all the other returning CR denizens. :-)

Jewel> Good luck apartment-hunting.

Fleur> I know this is late, but I'm glad to hear your car is finally fixed. :-) Speaking of cars, my roomie just got one. Needless to say, she was quite pleased, and now I get to actually go somewhere after 6:30 at night. :-P
Blue Caeru
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:41:44 PM
IP: spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com

Oopsie ... the name-linked link is wrong ... this one is right ...
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:50:55 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

The Dark Avalon Chat Room for adults only is now open! Drop on by at http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/d_avalon.html
Thank you, Crzy, for your yummiest Jericho pic yet!

"New Stuff" links > arrgh, both Xoom and Eskimo have been being problematical lately; all I can say is keep trying, and if it still doesn't work, let me know which ones and I'll try to look into it.

Wilek > Okay ... I was watching Pop-Up Video, and ZZ Top's "Gimme all your Lovin" was on (filmed, btw, at an old gas station on the outskirts of my home town), and that red car screamed up to the pumps and out came three hot babes ... and I thought, "Wouldn't it be funny if I did that with the Weird Sisters?" I'd already had T.J. in mind as a character, and he fit perfectly into the 'downtrodden kid' role ... true, getting Oberon himself into a long beard and dusty jeans was a bit more of a stretch ... ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:47:08 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

S.J. - Thanks for the www.scifi.com link. I am really disgusted with my cable TV schedule guide. I just got next month's issue and it's wrong for the whole month.

On methane and cows - If people don't get their protein from meat or animal products, where are they going to get it? Soybeans? Can you imagine all the air pollution we'd have if everyone switched from meat to soybeans? And soybeans aren't the only vegetable that does that to people... :@�

I have nothing more intelligent to write about today. Lost my brain somewhere (again).

Jenniren
Thursday, August 26, 1999 10:06:20 AM
IP: user-2ivf181.dialup.mindspring.com

Hi all!!

Short post tonight,I have to get some sleep.

Welcome all new people to the CR!:)

Stormy/JackaL/Blue Caeru:Welcome back!:)

Kyryn:Happy Birthday!

Adrienne:I think the show you were refering to was Phantom 2040 (I've never seen it but I've heard of it)

Wilek:Look under Potpourri/Supernatural. The two Gargs RPGs are Gargoyle: The Guarding, and Gargoyles: The Vigil. (To say that I wouldn't recommend Gargoyle: The Crusade is a blatant understatement.)>>Thanks for putting up that website Wilek,I also noticed a couple of Gargoyles references in their Changeling/Fae sections.

Anybody here remember and old game called System Shock?
a sequel has just been realeased and it's one of the scariest and most atmospheric games I've played in a long time,click on my name to find out more.

Goodnight all!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Thursday, August 26, 1999 09:10:43 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74

Goodmorning everyone
I ran into an interesting stat in an e-newsletter I receive::::
Five percent of the population purchases ninety-five percent of all the books. The other ninety-five purchase the other five percent of the books. They don't have time to read them. They give them away as gifts.
So, which catagory do you fall into, I'm definatly the former---you should see the stacks of favorites I've got tucked around this house.

Last night I ran into a poem book tucked into an odd corner, gosh forgot I had it and started reading, here's one I enjoy....
TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE
There are two kinds of people on earth today;
Just two kinds of people-no more, I say;
Not the good and the bad, for it's well understood
That the good are part bad, and the bad are part good.
Not the rich and the poor, for to count a man's wealth
You must first know the state of his conscience and health.
Not the humble and proud, for in life's little span,
Who puts on vain airs is not counted a man;
Not the happy and sad, for the swift-flying years,
Bring each man his laughter and each man his tears.
No, the two kinds of people on earth that I mean
Are the people who lift and the people who lean.
Wherever you go you will find the world's masses
Are always divided into just these two classes
And oddly enough, you will find too, I mean
There's one who will lift to twenty who'll lean.
In which class are you? Are you easing the load
Of overtaxed lifters who toil down the road,
Or are you a leaner who lets others bear
Your portion of labor and worry and care?
------Ella Wheeler Wilcox
Have a great day
Just two kind
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Thursday, August 26, 1999 08:55:49 AM
IP: 207.14.200.168

**Walks in and drives a furby through DC's ribcage. "HAH! And they said those cutsey thingies were good for nothing!"**

Okay, those little amnesia demons are running around in my head... as usual.

Christine: Some of the links on your New Stuff page seems to be dysFUNctional. Is this intentional, or an accident? As for TJ, well, maybe he's that wee counterweight that can *really* spice up your stories? Nice new house, by the way.

**DC is trying to get back up on his feet, but Warpmind draws up a cluster grenade and shoves into the still-present hole in DC's chest, before flipping him over on his stomach.**

SJ: Those animal rights activists want WHAT??? **Finds a four-metric-tonne q-tip and starts digging out earwax.** Okay, the next activist who's missed the big picture so dreadfully is going to find himself/herself staring at the business end of various items of kitchenware... and I'll save the edged items for last.

Lexy: There should be five bucks from me dumping into your mailbox any day now... probably around Wednesday, but don't sue me if I'm wrong about that... All Hail the Fund!

**DC is still trying to get up, but Warpmind spots him yet again. "Damn, man! How many times do I have to kill you?" Warpmind whips out a silver-edged claymore and chops up DC into small little bits, carefully gathering up every piece to bury them separately.**

Well, can't think of much else to say, unless I manage to exterminate those Amnesia demons anytime soon...

I'll finish up with a quote:
"Love is the only force strong enough to defy gravity... with the possible exception of human stupidity."
-UNKNOWN

Catch ya later, aye?

**Spits on some of the remnants of DC before leaving.**
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 26, 1999 05:28:26 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Irina: Ya know, those relationships (I think you are refering to the Star Trek/Star Wars ones) were just picked for thier shock value. I have never written, nor plan on writing, fics like those. I mean, even I wouldn't pair Worf and Data together like that!
Brooklyn, on the other hand...

Co-Workers: Well, the main one that was spreading rumors... woah boy... was SHE a bit#$! Without getting into details (for now anyway) she:
1. Used me to boost her ego and reputation
2. Made my life VERY difficult (EXTREMELY long story)
3. Used me for money (LONG story)
4. Tried to break LM and I up
5. Did I mention she used me?
6. And when all that failed, she ruined my reputation to the point that I may not be able to use Depot as a job reference.
And how long of a time frame am I talking? Not a week. Not TWO weeks, hell, not even a MONTH.
<<->> OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. <<->>
(LM refers to that time as "Hell." I tend to agree.)

<>NOTE<>
From what I have heard from other employees at other stores, these are NOT entirely isolated events. The store managers don't always treat employees nicely, and Corporate dosn't seem to care.

Wilek: Sleeping patterns: You have a sleeping pattern? You lucky dog!
LM's Sleeping Pattern: Here's the ONLY pattern I can tell: 90% of the time, she will sleep at least once in every 96 hour period of time. 75% of the time she is awake for less than 24 hours. 0.5% of the time she goes to bed and wakes up at the same time every day (OR this pattern MAY remain for at the VERY most a week.)

College: Well, I start tomorrow night (Well... to ME it is tomorrow. It may be TECHNICAILLY 5am Thursday, but since I haven't gone to bed yet, it is still Wendsday, damnit.

Coyote: <Crosses fingers and knocks on wood> LM and I plan on going to Gibralter Mt. Clemens <SP!> Saturday (I DESPERATELY need to go to a computer show), and since Algonac isn't too much farther...

Coyote: <Twas a pleasure to meet you in person as well, milady. :)>
You made LM blush! (She gets that because I used to call her 'milady' when we first started to go out.)

<PRIASE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 05:18:44 AM
IP: 216.90.45.190

DarkAngel> <<Turing test? IIRC, this only detects the appearance of sentience.>> Really? I was not aware. Hm...are there any more reliable sentience tests? <<most of them being completly useless, like the thousands of studies on whether smoking gives cancer.>> O_o People are still trying to figure that out? I kinda thought the CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT didn't leave much doubt of that! I guess even scientists aren't exempt from being stupid. ;)

Aaron> <<She always seems to be watching me out of the corner of her eye. And she's not checking me out, trust me. It's more like the way you try to keep a pitbull or a really big snake in sight at all times. I dunno what the problem is.>> Hm...maybe she's just so outstandingly mundane that our intrinsic Weirdness makes her uncomfortable. ;)

All newcomers> Welcome! Leave your sanity in this jar, so you can be fully indoctrinated into the way of Gargoyles, and we can use the sanity to...what is this used for? Maybe we can construct an advanced sort of computer system that uses captured sanity for computational processes. We'll have to enlist the help of some Void Engineers, but that shouldn't be a problem...

Stormy> Welcome back! :D Hope the 'real' world didn't drive you too sane in your absence. -_^

Sarge> <<" What are you? Some sort of Pokemon?">> Heh heh heh...reminds me of a creativity demon someone had once, of Gargoyles being a particularly odd Pokemon race...

Jackal> Hey! Glad you're alright. ^_^ <<And..., why are yall worried about me?>> Well, there was the suicide attempt, and the subsequent fit of deep depression. I'm glad to see that's no longer a problem. :)

Jenna> <> It is kinda hard to find; I tripped over it as much by dumb luck as anything. :) Look under Potpourri/Supernatural. The two Gargs RPGs are Gargoyle: The Guarding, and Gargoyles: The Vigil. (To say that I wouldn't recommend Gargoyle: The Crusade is a blatant understatement.) There's some interesting non-Gargs stuff on that site as well, most notably a Mage faction known as the Order of St. Nerius. <G>

Blue Caeru> WB! ^_^ <<then my father's mother passed away.>> Oh no! :( <<see if I ever decide to shell out eight bucks again for a flu shot that didn't exactly work.>> You were sick too? AND you lost a scholarship? ACK! Things haven't been going well for you, apparently. I hope things start looking up soon.

Christine> <<one of the only fanfics ever to be inspired by a ZZ Top Pop-Up-Video ...>> This I have to hear. :)

Coyote> <<Have ye ever had a sense of total and utter helplessness? The whole ... situation with Ravyn has me feeling that way, especially since it's safe to assume that Baby Fey has left town already ... thereby effectively cutting off my last remaining lifeline to her. Mail gets bounced, and snail-mail ... I have no idea when ... or *if* ... anything would arrive, since it's been nearly two months now and I *still* don't know if she ever got the Gathering package.>> Man...I think I'd be feeling pretty bad myself. :(

SOROW> <> Heh...well, if I can alter reality to a certain degree...but there's always Paradox to worry about...

Jewel> Ack...I'm glad those guys warned you away from that place if it's *that* bad. Can't have one of the resident Mawrters getting into unpleasant mischief (other than that of her own design). ;)

SJ> <<before you know it we'll discover that plants are sentient, emotional creatures too>> Most of the Earth-native ones aren't, but there are several...immigrants...who are *quite* intelligent. Not to mention the genetically engineered weirdnesses in that lab of yours. Tell me, was dear old Dad responsible for the whole killer tomatoes incident a decade or two ago? <G> <<Did anyone catch Dateline NBC tonight? They actually did a piece on how parents are upset cause their teenagers want to sleep in late....>> What? <blink> Only parents could be concerned with *that*. I wonder what they'd think of someone whose sleep patterns are so supremely messed up as mine. >:)

Pistoff> <> That is so true--a cat WILL NOT do a trick you teach it unless the trick is immediately beneficial to the cat. Like teaching it to open the refrigerator or something. There's an old saying: Cats don't speak because they *choose* not to. ;) <<Well, when I first got hooked up to the net, I put "phred" on the paperwork, and that's what they put on my email address. I'll see if I can get 'em to change it, but I'm not sure if they will...>> Hm...actually, I think there's a way to change the headers on your e-mail without changing your e-mail address. On MS Outlook Express, it's Tools/Accounts, then the Mail tab, then the Properties button. The name under User Information is the name that shows up in the header of outgoing e-mail. The actual process is different for other mail programs, but there's probably a way to do it for just about any of them.
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, August 26, 1999 01:29:52 AM
IP: tnt-2-54-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hey everyone! Thanks for you support, my family and I really need it right now.

Adrienne-The Phantom- It sounds familiar, but I can't place it.

Lexy- You got my donation right? It should be there by now.

JackaL-Well there you are. How have you been?

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:54:56 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Paul, sorry, you'll have to wait until tomorrow for your response. It's getting kind of long, and it's getting kind of late. But you'll get it, never fear.

Btw, there have been a noticeable dearth of responses to the survey about hot males in animation. There have to be more opinions out there!!
Irina - [iruden@brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:44:22 AM
IP: 34.arlington-02.va.dial-access.att.net

Fleur and others who complimented me on my tragedy post: thank you very much. As I said, tragedy is a subject which means a lot to me, as I hope you could tell, and to hear my opinions validated in that way also means a lot to me. Thank you all.

Which brings me to Tragedy vs. Nihilism. As I understand it (and please note, I'm relatively uninformed on this one), Nihilism offers little to no outlet of hope. Tragedy is more transcendent, where the hero can rise above his tragic flaw, to show that life is still worth living. As I said before, a story which moves with pity and fear, and which makes you proud to be human. Nihilism is generally more depressing than that. Includes the pity and fear, without the "proud to be human" part.

Fire Storm: You got me cringing with those relationships there... ugh...
I mean, I like interpretive fanfic. I like things that give me a glimpse of how someone sees these characters. But... some of it... just... doesn't work for me.

And Paul. Check your e-mail, you'll find a response (if you check a few minutes from now). Thank you for at least taking it off the public forum, since the discussion is getting quite personal at this point.
Everyone else, congratulations, you won't have to listen to me rant about tragedy to Paul anymore.
Irina - [iruden@brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:05:19 AM
IP: 34.arlington-02.va.dial-access.att.net

Christine: Ehhh...Riker and Wesley?? O.O Heh...um...well, maybe after Wesley's voice finally changes... ;) And congrats on the writers' panel thingie! :D As for Sabledrake Publishing, that sounds like a great idea! Hey, if ya want something done... heh. :)

Fire Storm: Those were the TAME ones?? Now my curiosity is piqued...

Wilek: Well, when I first got hooked up to the net, I put "phred" on the paperwork, and that's what they put on my email address. I'll see if I can get 'em to change it, but I'm not sure if they will...

Aaron: Denis Leary also had a bit about how we only want to save the *cute* animals. "What are you?" "I'm an otter." "And what do you do?" "I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands!" "Okay, you're free to go....And what are you?" "I'm a cow." "Get on the truck! You're a baseball glove! Get on the truck right now!..." ;) About the new intern--I get the same treatment from people, whether I wear my coat or not. I guess the only thing you can really do is just go about your business, be yourself, and sooner or later she'll get used to you and maybe even realize you're a decent guy. I'm still waiting for a lot of people to realize that about me, where I live, but all they see is the skinhead, trenchcoat and sunglasses. But I don't let it bother me, much. People will pass judgement on you no matter what, so there's little point in worrying about it.

Stormy: Welcome back!

Sarge: (re: Top Ten) LMAO!

JackaL: Good to see ya again!

**SLIGHT CRUSADE SPOILERS...MAYBE**

SJ: Yeah, I loved tonight's Crusade episode, too. I spent the whole hour laughing my ass off. Especially at the end, when that one alien (can't remember his name) lit up a cigarette! And Gideon's reaction to the whole thing was priceless and far more realistic than the typical Star Trek "Let's just leave them alone and let them evolve on their own" schtick. Actually, there have been a couple of riffs on Star Trek in Crusade (most obvious is the new uniforms--"I look like a bell hop!") and several in B5--"This isn't some deep-space franchise--this place is *about* something!" Anyway, this is one of the best eps so far. Too bad next week will be the last one. :(

**END POSSIBLE SPOILERS**

I missed that Dateline NBC. Parents are freaking out because their kids want to sleep in??? O.o I...uhh...this one is so stupifying, I can't even come up with a sufficient rant...

Coyote: **more hugz** We're here for ya, bud. Hang in there, everything will turn out okay.

Animal intelligence: Actually, dogs aren't that smart, because all they do is learn tricks and follow simple instructions. I think cats are smarter because they just do their own thing. (Ever tried to stop a cat from climbing on the curtains? They always wait till you're not looking, then they climb--but as soon as you look at 'em, they jump down and start licking their paws, trying to act innocent--and as soon as you look away, they're back into the mischief again...)
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:02:56 AM
IP: wire-22.koalas.com

Damn you, typos! DAMN YOU!!! I bite my thumb at thee, sir.

I meant to say to law enforcement AGENTS, not "agencies"...grrr.
Sevarius Jr.
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:34:19 PM
IP: 207-172-52-78.s78.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Again, No RP. Things are sort of in a lull as of late...

Starship Troopers: Yes, the name of the show is "Roughnecks: The Starship Trooper Chronicles". Don't exactly know why they changed the title....
As for tv listings, check out TV Guide--I hear it's supposed to be listed there. Local newspapers and such are NOT listing the show, but if you go to the Sci-Fi Channel's website (www.scifi.com), their "Schedule Bot" does list the show as starting this Friday. Personally, I blame all the confusion on the Sci-Fi Channel and their total LACK of promoting this show. In fact, it looks as if they're changing their weekday morning lineup--which was previously some retro crap like "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" or something--into a couple hour block of animated programming. But the thing is, THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. I've yet to see an advertisement for it, and the damn thing debuts in less than 36 hours.

****CRUSADE SPOILERS***
J. Michael Stracyznski has proven to me that he is a god.
If some of you folks didn't see this episode, I suggest you check out the replay next Monday night at 11 p.m. Why? Cause the *entire* episode of Crusade tonight was one big long parody of the X-Files!!! It was hilarious!!! You had a pair of alien law enforcement agencies--acting a lot like a certain pair of FBI Agents--searching for the "truth" about the "alien" race that was invading their planet...humans! JMS made one funny joke of the whole thing, and I found it especially gratifying seeing as I've been less than thrilled with X-Files this past season (or as I like to call the show now, "The Mulder and Scully Comedy Hour").
BTW, did you catch the parting shot at Star Trek? They ripped into the ol' "Prime Directive"!
Matheson: You know, some people probably would say we would be interfering with their culture.
Gideon: Probably. Screw them.
*****END CRUSADE SPOILERS****

JackaL: Hey, of course we're worried about you! Especially after the depressed mood you were in....your attempts at suicide....when we didn't hear from you for a while, we got worried. You seem to be in a better mood though :) Hope things are working out for you, and that you drop in far more often. ;)

Thanks to everybody for their animal comments. Personally, like I said, I'm not for the abuse or exploitation of animals. I don't like testing (not for cosmetics at least--I am for testing medications as long as the tests are absolutely necessary), I don't like *killing* (instead of sheering, like with sheep)) animals for their pelts, and I definitely think that animals should be treated responsibly and humanely at all times. But I would never put an animal's life above another human beings, or even on equal status with them. Just because dogs smile and can do tricks doesn't mean they're intelligent enough to "know what is best for them". I love animals, but the smartest of them (with but a few exceptions, *maybe*) doesn't seem to be any more intelligent than a very young child. They don't deserve equal rights....and please, extremists, don't even get into the whole "animals shouldn't be eaten for food!" thing with me...
Christ, before you know it we'll discover that plants are sentient, emotional creatures too, and then no one will want us to eat *anything*. ;0p

Finally....this just made me laugh out loug. Did anyone catch Dateline NBC tonight? They actually did a piece on how parents are upset cause their teenagers want to sleep in late....Um, isn't that a NORMAL activity for *all* young people? Staying up late and sleeping in? Hey, the day I DON'T want to stay up till 2 and sleep till noon or later is the day something is seriously wrong with me!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:30:45 PM
IP: 207-172-52-78.s78.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

*blushes* thank you ppl for your comments. :) Right now Dags and I are just EMing each other and telling stuff about each other. Man, I want to see him after I graduate! :)))) He's really sweet and he likes the stuff I wished I had the bravery to do like dancing and acting and painting. I can't wait to talk to him some more. :)
Mary Flanders
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:47:15 PM
IP: stk-ts1-h1-36-105.ispmodems.net

Hey, all. I don't have time for a long post, so I have to be quick.

SJ: "Sticks and stone may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me."

Fire Storm: Word it is. I'll try to send it this week.

GB: I just haven't had time to reply; I will after I read the story you sent me.

The Rattling Deathtrap: It finally arrived. Hooboy.

Apartment: Arrrrrg. It looked like I had one set up and ready, for the 10th of next month. Only I mentioned the complex at work, and, well... I have ben adopted as "baby sister" by some of the guys who work in the PC area. Three of them paled at the same time and started shaking their heads and stammering "NO." and told me I was not moving there. One guy said it was not an area to walk around after dark..or even before dark. The other said it was not a good place for a single woman. Then the other informed me, very faltly and matter-o-factly, that I'd probably get raped in a week. Then all three of them started telling me I was not moving there. I think I'll keep looking...

Random good news: I got offered a little side job as the assistant of the columnist I meet at Readercon: my job--keep him honest. He said the pay "sucks dead cat farts," but I would do it for free (this is the same guy I'm redo-ing the logo for his website). CLick on my name to see some of his writings...

OK, gotta go, sorry I can't respond to anyone in any real way, shape, or form, or even really read the commentroom, bye!
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:46:01 PM
IP: 207-172-74-199.s199.tnt2.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Don't forget! Kyryn's birthday is tomorrow... see ya tomorrow afternoon! OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:43:20 PM
IP: dll2b110-08.splitrock.net

I just spent 30 minutes waiting for this room to load up and it only gave me posts after 11:00 this morning! AUGH! %$&^%(&^@! Anyways, so sorry if I miss some responses...

JackaL> (I'll be your boyfriend) Ummm, I'll get back to you on that ;) Kissy kissy spanky spanky yada yada...

Welcome back Stormy and Blue Caeru! We missed ya :)

Coyote> Awww *big wet kiss* Thanks :)

Movie news> I had about three Blockbuster coupons, so I bought two movies and rented three others. One of them is a movie my mom told me about. Ya know how Ever After is like the PG-13 version of Cinderella? Well, this is the R version of Snow White! It's called Snow White: A Tale of Terror, and it's great! Not for the kiddies (sex, attempted rape, blood, murder, gore) but a very good movie! It has Sigourney Weaver and Sam Neil in it, and I believe Weaver got an award for her role (1996). So I urge you all to rent it!

School news> I got 76 on my Pre Calculus test and 85 on my Physics test. I found the Physics grade hysterical cause I was taken off 5 points for claiming that there are 24 inches in a foot... TWICE! HHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAA!!!!! I swear, I *really* am in high school! Honest ! ;)
SOROW
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:37:12 PM
IP: dll2b110-08.splitrock.net

**enters the room, switching out the candles**

**sigh** I'm sorry to make everyone worry about me. 'Twas never my intention, I was just depressed (and last night suffering from one whanger of a headache from tracking too many IM's).
**sigh** Have ye ever had a sense of total and utter helplessness? The whole ... situation with Ravyn has me feeling that way, especially since it's safe to assume that Baby Fey has left town already ... thereby effectively cutting off my last remaining lifeline to her. Mail gets bounced, and snail-mail ... I have no idea when ... or *if* ... anything would arrive, since it's been nearly two months now and I *still* don't know if she ever got the Gathering package. :(
Anyway, enough about me. I really appreciate all your support, folks ... really. **returns all the hugs in one big group hug**

SOROW: You're welcome ... **snif** Don't start crying, then ye'll get *me* started ... **hugs of his own**

LM: 'Twas a pleasure to meet you in person as well, milady. :)

Stormy: Hey, welcome back! Oh, and ask Ace about how Wagner's cigs figured into WCC. ;)

Starsinger: That goes double for me, roomie. **hugs**

JackaL: Welcome back to you, the least sane of us all! :)

Caeru: And welcome back to you, too ... gee, everyone's making a return!!

Christine, re: Sabledrake Press: I say GO FOR IT!! ;)

**sits back down on the floor, looking up at the candle, but not looking quite as sad as last night.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 09:04:26 PM
IP: modem73.i-is.com

My .02 on the animals as equals thing> *beware, this is SICK*

"Humanity should not eat animals such as sheep, heaven knows it's hard enough for rednecks to score"
(I mean no offense to rednecks, or sheep for that matter)
but serously, animals as equals, sure, give them the right to vote, HFIL, even elect them to office, heaven knows we've had weasels in office, not to mention presidents who *bleep*ed like rabbits, to say nothing of the j@ck@sses in congress

shogun raptor
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 09:01:31 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

Am in the process of adding much new stuff to the site, including three pics left over from the Gathering (first ones on a roll of film I didn't get developed until now), some snaps of the house if anybody wants to see, my most recent cel acquisition, etc. Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Wilek > T.J.'s first appearance was in "FoxFire," probably one of the only fanfics ever to be inspired by a ZZ Top Pop-Up-Video ... ; )

Sabledrake Publishing > thanks for the info, but it's certainly something far, far in the future! At the moment, any spare money we have is going into opening Tim's own game store. And that won't even happen until next year sometime. I'll stick with just getting this 'zine organized for now! ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:39:24 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

wanted to see this pic
David G>> It's amazing what you can get done when under a little pressure sometimes, I hate it when something goes wrong with a project I've been working on. (I've lost a couple of important term project just before the deadline due to, who knows what, when Mr. Computer decides to act up.

Nightwalker>> If mom keeps changing the subject on you then just keep on talking to her about other things, if you and her keep communicating it will help keep your relationship strong and growing in a positive manner. What is important is your relationship with her, not whether she can connect with gargoyles. Not every relationship has to be based on mutual likes. Caring, respect, understanding of the other person, kindness, these all go into a good relationship. Have you given her a hug today??? Mom's can never have too many hugs, how about a thankyou??? Mom's also never get enough thankyou's. Think about all the things that she does during the course of the day for you and your family, now imagine yourself having to do all of these things. Most moms end up putting aside parts or even all of their dreams and desires in order to take care of their family. If you want your mother to understand you, then you also need to understand her. It will help you have a great relationship with her the rest of your life. Besides she probably is a really great lady, she's been raising you, and you sound like a great guy.
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:36:51 PM
IP: 207.14.200.88

YES I CAN POST AGAIN

What I wanted to say yesterday

STARSINGER: dco da do do da dee do do dah dee dee do(Hamsterdance theme). sorry just an example of my insanity

WILEK: hmmm I may get the original Phantasmagoria, though there is one scene in the sequel that is just too EWWWWWWW, but I wont spoil for you

WHOEVER WAS TYPIN LINKS TO QUEEN: Cool! although I had a different band from the 70's in my head STYX! You have to get their new cd!

Now for todays thoughts

SJ> Dang Strait ma man! I agree about stopping the testing and I dont eat certain animals:squirrels,deer,rabbits,sheep, and I'm trying to lay off veal. but that is my opinion and I dont beleive in forcing it on anyone, to each his own. If one of those Animal extremists try to ban eating meat Hoo boy I do like a nice welldone steak in a while, hmmm gotta have my chicken, and I'm a seafood nut. IF THOSE JERKS KEEP ME FROM EATING MY SHRIMP AND PASTA I WILL RIP OUT THEIR HEART AND SHOW IT TO THEM AS THEY DIE!sorry about that little rant folks

I know dolphins are intelligent but how many of you know they are the only animals besides humans(and probably gargs) that have sex fro enjoyment?

ADRIENNE>Yeah I remember that cartoon early 90's I think, but I remeber one from the 80's that had the phantom,Flash Gordan,this magician guy and a strongman and their children and they all fought evil together. I rememberd becasue the sci-fi channel used to air that cartoon in the week mornings, another cartoon they used to air was Space Droids and Ewoks

End my insanity now, bye
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:34:41 PM
IP: ts003d42.orl-fl.concentric.net

STARSHIP TROOPERS check UPN and WBS I'm showing them both showing Starship Troopers here in Albuquerque at 7:00 and 9:00 am (as if they (webtv) ever get the times right on WBS). Web shows it starting Monday Aug 30. Hope this helps your search. Oh, its listed as Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicals. Hope that the same thing. Wouldn't you know, that's going to be a tape and watch :( I leave for work at 6:30/7:00.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:26:58 PM
IP: proxy-373.public.rwc.webtv.net

Hey, everyone, I'm back. *is greeted by the gentle sound of crickets chirping in the otherwise silent CR* Uh, anyway, classes have started again. Oh yay. Hope everyone here is doing well.
I just got back on Sunday from my parents' home. I was there for nearly month to look after the house when my mother had to go see her father, who was very ill. Fortunately, he pulled through, but then my father's mother passed away. I wish I had spent more time with her, but she lived across the world from us.
Well, I am almost through with my first week of classes. Things are hectic since I got back to town so late. The situation isn't helped by the fact that I've lost my full-tuition scholarship for not completing enough hours... Ha, see if I ever decide to shell out eight bucks again for a flu shot that didn't exactly work. *sigh* I guess I've accepted the fact that I lost the scholarship, and I'm job-hunting now, but what really bothers me is the embarrassment. I had this great opportunity and I blew it. Appealing now is pointless because who's going to believe that the flu was that debilitating? It's not like I actually developed pneumonia or something. Plus I won't be able to make the deadline anyway - gathering up all the documents will take too long. Okay, sorry about this depressing, big, pointless, whiney passage... but thanks for listening.

I am so far behind here in the CR. I've only had a chance to skim over some of the posts.

Kaioto> You were sick? Sorry, glad you're feeling better.

Animal Rights> Interesting ethical debate. I think some people are too extreme about it though, kind of like feminism.

The Robby and Heather Fund> That's a really sweet idea. When I figure out my finances, I'll see what I can do.

Dark Ages> So it's the first one to be premiered this season. I'd better read all the other eps first.

Gathering 2K> I reeeeeaaallly want to go since it's so nearby. Maybe if I ask my parents not to give me Christmas or birthday presents and instead to just give me the funds to attend it, since - well, you know. *sheepishly*

Au revoir (sp? I just started taking Beginning French :-P)
Blue Caeru
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:24:31 PM
IP: spider-tr021.proxy.aol.com

OK, working all last night and over lunch today I have almost managed to replace everything I lost yesterday (Thank God that I had sent a copy to Denis earlier). I'm still holding myself to the Friday deadline (actually thursday, since I'm busy friday), so I have a lot to do this evening.

Still wondering where the file went. I'm almost certain that I saved it before I quit.

Anyway, on to a couple of other things.

Jenna> I read Zanzibar's all the time. Try under the Popuiri (sp?) section, which is where all the random stuff goes. There's an alphabetical index, which should help.

Night walker> I don't have any advice for you, but I hope it helps you to know that other people have gone through the same kind of thing. When I was in Jr. High and High School, my mother really hated my gaming hobby. She never quite bought into the "D&D will turn you into a psychotic satanist axe murderer" line, but she still didn't approve. I tried to get her to play, or to watch a session, but I never could. Eventually, I grew up and she realized that gaming was always going to be a part of my life, and she accepted it. We still had a close relationship in other ways, even when we disagreed about gaming.

The most important thing is to keep talking to her, and to always make sure she knows you love her. No matter how angry you are, or how stupid you think her opinions are, don't ever let anything change that.

Too many of my friends have grown into really lousy relationships with their parents because of these misunderstandings. Since I have such a good relationship with mine, that always depresses me.

Anyway, I hope something in what I said is helpful to you.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 07:53:21 PM
IP: pppa55-fortworth14-4r235.saturn.bbn.com

Hmm, I really have absolutley nothing to say right now... Oh well...

Christine- I still don't get it, but I guess I'm not going to either. Oh well...

Starship Troopers- My local listings don't display it for the sci-fi channel. Pooie...
Robby
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 07:39:27 PM
IP: spider-wl024.proxy.aol.com

Night walker I think there are three. I've got a Mitsubishi Web Plus, my sister has a Sony version of Web Plus (her's is a newer model) and when web first came out there was a Sony version with no printer ports and your Magnavox version. May actually be a few more.
Try scrolling down the page to the links that are lower down. One of them may get you in or try entering first thing after you log on. Sometimes I crash when things too graphics oriented or I've been on too long. If nothing else, send me your web tv addy and I'll send the next page and see if that will work since I can send websites through the web e-mail.

Jackel as you can see, we've even trained the newbies to worry about our Jackel. You've been missed. <<HUGS>>.

Auntie Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 06:08:55 PM
IP: proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net

Wilek- I looked at the link and I didn't see any garg stuff-- where do I need to look on that website?
Jenna
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 04:44:08 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

World Of Darkness fans> Click my name for a website full of fan-created WoD stuff. The relevance being that there are not one but two fan-created WoD games based on Gargoyles. ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 03:56:55 PM
IP: tnt-2-219-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

(I'm back!)

Jenna>oh...

Jackal>Your Reply?
Exin
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 03:39:39 PM
IP: 193.97.193.250

Starsinger-I think it's the Philips Magnavox one . I didn't know there were different companies foe webtv.

Jackal-Of course we're worried about you . you post about once a week . I know who is this guy, but I'm worried almost as much as everyone else is, even tough I've never spoken to you before.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:55:36 PM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

JackaL and Stormy in one day! Kewl! Welcome back you two.

Hey Jenna.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:22:31 PM
IP: ppp-198.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Stormy: Hey, welcome back! Now, it wasn't so bad, was it? <G>

Jackal: At least your still around.

<PRAISE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:13:20 PM
IP: t2-48.visitus.net

Hey yall!! How's everyone doin?!??
And..., why are yall worried about me? I'm ok! Thank you anyway!! YaY!! ::claps::

Yes, SJ.., I can dig your taste in muzik, in fact.., I listen to all that and more!

Sorow- Guy troubles?!?? Aww.. ::hugs:: I'll be you boyfriend, is that coolness?

Anyway, I'm on a public Komputer today so I can't stay long.., I'm at the library (the earth shakes and thunder rolls). Wierdness..., anyway, talk to yall later, and thanks for caring!
JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:01:15 PM
IP: 168.28.72.154

Nightwalker, which web unit do you have? There are several types and each has a separate level of programing with many overlaps. Mine is the Mitsubishi webplus.
Have you ever expressed a desire to do cartoons or artwork?
Starsinger.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 01:44:23 PM
IP: proxy-423.public.paix.webtv.net

...
Abel Aguilar - [robintapia@hotmail.com]
Calexico, CA, USA
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 01:03:12 PM
IP: 148.231.65.170

Stormy-Welcome back,eventhough I don't really know who you are.Um , I find that pic a little ofensive.The hammer is threatening.BAD JOKE ALERT!!

Coyote-It's all right , even though trying to comfort people on other chats got me ignored I'm taking a chance. <<Hugz>>Now , tell us whats wrong.

Starsinger,Delphi-I've made attempts to talk to her in the past, and she says that nothings wrong. And I've already told her of the many Shakespearean [I know I spelled that wrong]and Aurtheurean referances. And I thought she would have been a little interested. She took a Shakespearean literature course in college . But she just ended up changing the subject again. She says cartoons are for imature babies, but then later I see her watching family guy or Bob and Mageret with my brother. I don'yt want to think of her as a hypocrite, because I myself find such words as those very offensive. I will try again to talk to her.

Bjork page- your box doesn't have that problem? When I go to the page with the bee the box shuts itself off. The power to the box actually goes out for a moment , and then it's back to the first screen[the one that you first see when you turn the box on]. It's very strange.

Oh , and city of stone is actually my faveorite ep. and it would have been my second choice , but that ones gone too. And so is the first five minutes of part two of Hunters moon.They are pretty bad off[the mini-series eps].
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:57:16 PM
IP: proxy-513.public.rwc.webtv.net

exin- no, just been too busy-- sorry! I haven't em a lot people in almost 2 months--lot of rl crazyness-- sorry
jENNA
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:28:09 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Jenna>Hey ,do you hate me that you dont write to me anymore?
Exin - [exin@gmx.de]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:24:59 PM
IP: 193.97.193.250

I'm here at my father's church computer. And it goes super fast so I don't have trouble loading here. I'm just checking in as usual.

Here's another bloody Top ten...

Top ten sayings Lex hates

10. " Hey Lex, the McDonald's Play Place opened up, want to go in it?"
9. " Maybe NEXT year you'll be big enough to ride that roller coaster..."
8. " I had tried finding you clothes so that you would fit in with humans, but the only thing I found that would fit you are these superman underwear...."
7. "Want some Miracle Grow?"
6. "Oh my god Lex! Your turning Green! Quick to the hospital, you're sick!"
5. " Oh I'm sorry, Yoda try outs are over with..."
4. " AUGH THE BOOGY MAN!"
3. " Didn't i see you on Buffy the Vampyre Slayer?"
2. " What are you? Some sort of Pokemon?"
1. " Look mom! This furby is bald!"

Well now that I got that over with.

"Waiter! There is a Sarge in my soup!"
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, Vermont, United States of America
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:02:59 PM
IP: spider-to033.proxy.aol.com

Nightwalker I'll echo Delphi's mom mode with the following. Do you neglect your homework, your chores and other household duties? We all have little things to do even if its only taking out the trash. Are your grades off because you're on the web all the time. Are you getting enough sleep?

Do talk with your mom. Find out if she thinks the gargoyles are demons or evil and doesn't want you to watch them. Point out all the neat Shakespeare influences and historical things in the series.

The main word is Communicate. Don't let gargoyles or any one thing obsess your life. If you can't post everyday to the room we understand. Don't hesitate to do other things and let us know. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is break a set pattern in you life. Fourteen is hard you're between Jr.high and High school. Your're changing, your friends are changing, you have a life to plan, and for the most part life is total chaos. Do you even have an idea of what you want to do in the future? (Yes, I'm nosy.:)) Learn to take a few minutes and discuss your future with your mom. Maybe she, also, is confused with the new you. After all, you are no longer her little baby. You're becoming a man and she may not recognize the fact yet.

Remember Communicate. And make sure you're speaking the same 'language'. :)

That goes for you too, Coyote. We know you're down and aside from shoulders and hugs, if you let us know what's got you down besides the usual stupidity in life, we might be able to offer more support. Love you roomie.

Auntie Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:58:39 AM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

SO here I am, having served my 8 weeks for mother & country, my military service over for another year....out in PEI with Dylan Blacquiere & Amy Cyrway, so if you hear about a large explosion blasting PEI off the map, you'll know what happened. ;-)

Missing everyone; it'll be good to see you all in two weeks when I get back to school and catch up with what's going on.
LONG LIVE DARK AGES!!!
Stormy
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:57:50 AM
IP: 137.149.128.105

Jewel Faulkner and Irina-Check your Electronic Mail please. And Send Replies there, too. I understand a lot more than I showed, I didn't defend Sephiroth much because I thought you weren't too far in the Game, Irina, and didn't want to spoil anything. I can spend ten pages or more defending Sephiroth if necessary. I've spent enough in the Electronic Mail explaining I do know what I'm talking about and I also spent a bit explaining I know what your stories are about, Jewel. LIGHTNING CRASHES seemed to give hope. I was commenting on that one. I'm not giving up hope there'll be a way out until I see how the story ends. If I reviewed any other stories of yours you'd probably see a *lot* more in terms of commentary on 'lost innocence'. You can't play Games like FINAL FANTASY TACTICS and XENOGEARS and not understand lost innocence and all it portends to a full level.
The full commentary is in Electronic Mail Sent to both of you. Check it out and please Reply.

Trey Palmer-I replied here, so its probably fitting I apologize here. You missed my point, though, or I didn't clarify it. Also, I didn't respond on Electronic Mail because the commentary was related to this Comment Room, and I wanted to explain I wasn't going to have anything to do with the Electronic Mail. The situation was already settled, I already knew where I erred, I don't need someone else helping me where I already know what to do. Thanks for the offer, but in this case, even though help is appreciated, since I knew what to do, and most of all, since the situation was over, I didn't want to have anything to do with the Electronic Mail.
I hope that explains my point.
I'm sorry for bringing this up here before, and, if the above about your intended help has to do with the same, I'm sorry for mentioning it again here.

Doug-I figured Leo didn't have anything important to say. I too hope not much is changed in the Remake, although from what I heard the only changes should be some additions. Although they'll have to change a bit on Althena, as in why she stayed behind. And change a lot with Ghaleon in terms of what he'd done and how he understood what he did was wrong.
They change any of the Zophar Themes I will not be happy. The Omni-Zophar and Zophar (Fourth Form Head) Music is incredible. I love that music!!

The Best-Looking Females Contest-I will not participate in this. I learned as a kid looks don't matter the slightest in anything. I utterly ignore what anyone looks like, I'll form an opinion on a passing glance, and that's it. Nor will I treat anyone as a 'thing' and classify them in a contest. I'm stating this simply because I'd like to get this across to the Comment Room people in case that topic draws me in in terms of some aspects. Mainly, if someone starts treating any of the characters like fashion models, or fashion magazines, like some wierdos supposedly do.

Posting Absence-Trip. To Washington, DC, and surrounds. Yesterday I spent two hours or so composing a defense of how I knew what I was talking about to Irina and Jewel Faulkner and wanted to get to typing.

The Solloloquy Term-I forgot to mention this earlier. Thanks for clarifying the term. Although that's not what the 'solloloquy' at the start of XENOGEARS, Disc 2 was on. There was a lot more to it than that simple phrase. It clarifies one of the themes there, and does so well, but there's more.
While we're on the topic of XENOGEARS...

First of all:

Jewel Faulkner-That term for Christine, as being a savior, or destroyer-savior, was beautiful. I read the APOKALYPSIS, PART VII: GOTTERDAEMMERUNG I-DIES IRAE Introduction, and story before checking this Comment Room, and read the term there. Beautiful, and a term I can use to perhaps finally get my point across about a certain XENOGEARS Character.
More on the Story in the Review later.

|||||XENOGEARS Spoilers|||||

Krelian-Thanks to Jewel Faulkner's term concerning Christine, now I have a very well-on-key example for proving Krelian was not a villian. I've explained this to Nanaki, that he saw himself as a savior. True, he did seem to be doing everything so *he* could walk with God, and darn with the rest of humanity, from some viewpoint.
He originally intended to be a savior, to provide the people with a God/Goddess that could free them from pain. But his depressing view of the world, his anger at life's sorrows, his despising of the actions of the humans, and how much suffering he saw, how it seemed to be unavoidable, caused him to think that the only way to save people was to return everything to the beginning, to remove everyone from living, and bring them back to where it all began. That's why Deus was gathering all humans it could get, in case you didn't know. You probably did.
He learned of Deus from the Solarians, most likely, probably from Miang. And the Gazel Ministry, and perhaps Emperor Cain. He might not have known of the Wave Existence, or he might have. Miang presumedly knew, so he would've found out. Either that, or he thought becoming one with Deus would free the people from their pain. In order to end the suffering, the humans had to be returned to the beginning, back to where everything began. A place filled with the love of God, thus there being no need to search for love. The suffering would end because everyone would be walking with God.
Krelian wished to, himself, because of his sorrows. In the end, Fei was trying to convince him to also come back. Krelian could do nothing, most likely. If he tried to do so from within the Wave Existence, Har, and/or whatever other beings lived there, if there were any, would probably prevent him from doing so. In the end, when he'd lost hope of saving everyone else, he still wanted to walk with God. Before that, true, he could have thought that since he wanted to walk with God, he wished to aid others, and free them from their pain. He could've thought he was doing everyone a favor in that way, but it wasn't that drastic. Partially, perhaps, he might have thought the solution to his suffering was everyone's solution in that way, or just plain thought being returned to where everything began was the solution to everyone's problems, and could also be a salution to his, as well.
He did want to walk with God, because he thought there was no other way to be free of pain. But he did love humans, perhaps the most out of anyone, and did think that returning everything to the beginning was the only way to save them. Jewel Faulkner mentioned Christine destroys to save. Probably not in this exact same way, but Krelian also did, in a way. To save everyone from pain, he thought he had to 'destroy'. He didn't think he was destroying, he thought he was saving people from suffering in the only way possible. Fei convinced him he'd been wrong, and that he didn't have to walk with God, but Krelian still did. Because when he realized what he'd done was wrong, and how wrong it was, he didn't think he had a right to live.
So he left them to walk with God anyway.
He was truly sorry, but he still should have faced up to what he did, and not fled. He should've faced up to what he did, and accepted it, and moved on there. He didn't have to throw away his chance at living. Even in the end, he was never fully healed. He lacked enough courage to face life, even though he believed there was hope. Whether or not he didn't think he could atone, most likely because he didn't want to suffer anymore, and didn't think he'd be happy alive. Most likely also because he thought he didn't deserve to go back after what he'd done.
He knew he was wrong, he's no villian because of that. He was also trying to be a savior, so he was definitely no villian in that case. I knew that, I've used that in my defenses of him before, but when I saw Jewel Faulkner's term for Christine, I had to mention it again. If you compare the two, then if the rest of my points aren't enough to convince you, perhaps seeing how Christine, and Krelian are alike, should be enough.
|||||End XENOGEARS Spoilers|||||

Now...

|||||Review of APOKALYPSIS, PART VII: GOTTERDAEMMERUNG I-DIES IRAE|||||

First of all, the Introduction.
That was beautiful in how it was written. It explained a lot in various aspects. Again, I read that Story before I checked the THE GARGOYLES SAGA Comment Room, so my reaction to the part of the Introduction addressed to me is the one I'll describe here.
Jewel, I don't see how you can think that your stories were lousy. Yes, GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE was excellent, I still have not yet read the revised TURANDOT, the original was awesome, and I have other things to do. The revised one is probably just as beautiful and sad, and will be read, probably after I read your introduction to the Series you mentioned is going to be written soon.
However, PART II of LUX PERPETUA was one of the most wonderful stories I had read up to that point. Perhaps better than TURANDOT, or at least its original form. The regrets and anguish and pain and sadness there was portrayed excellently. Denounce it all you want, the whole of LUX PERPETUA, but especially PART II, was just as good as, or better, than GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE. Both Series are thousands times better than a novel that won the Pulitzer Prize, that's how excellent they were.
MISERERE MEI DEUS was also great, perhaps not as good, and not as powerful as the others in some aspects, but was definitely great. At the end of that, it actually showed a final acceptance and overcoming of Christine's faults, and an almost full life.
Maybe not as great as LUX PERPETUA, but still great.
APOKALYPSIS... Possibly as well done as LUX PERPETUA. Actually, just as well done. PART V seemed to give the impression that the whole prophecy was becoming the focus of the story, which worried me for a little. I doubted, slightly, that the conclusion to the whole saga might not have as much emotional depth, PART V did, but it just seemed... Well, some tiny aspect kinda' worried me. PART VI removed all those worries, if they were ever really there.
Yes, GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE was awesome, but so was LUX PERPETUA. MISERERE MEI DEUS was not as great as those two, I think I might've said it was the most powerful, but that was a mistake there, I should've mentioned it was powerful, even though you said that things wouldn't happen until APOKALYPSIS. It was powerful, in a way, yet not as powerful, but it still has some qualities that make it a possible challenger for GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE. Maybe not, there's a lot of contradictions between comparing MISERERE MEI DEUS with the other stories. Maybe I did actually think for that minute of typing the compliment there it was the most powerful. Yet that minute only, and off, and on in other cases. LUX PERPETUA was best out of those two stories, even though sometimes I say MISERERE MEI DEUS was better.
GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE and APOKALYPSIS were, as you said, great writings, but LUX PERPETUA, and even though it wasn't as great, the above commentary I just typed has made me sure I know where to place it now, it was great.
Don't denounce your stories. You're a great writer, and write possibly better stories than people who publish novels. Fourth Place in ranking of best writers.
Please don't bash your stories.
As for the rest of the introduction, well, I understood the 'lost innocence' part very well. That was more or less my opinion of the story all along, but some parts seemed strangely addressed to me. I didn't know why, now I do. I had already formed those beliefs about your writing, and understood the point, though.
That goes for the inaction/action bit that I believe was included there, or might have been included elsewhere.
The savior bit, too, although I didn't use the exact same term you did. I used the term savior in my mind, but in THE CHILD, I actually didn't think much of it other than how Christine's actions there showed the love that existed between she, and her sister, and the tragedies caused by what had happened. I didn't see anything really big there. In a way I did, but I didn't see the correct terms for it.
Or if I did, not as strongly.
Now I do for sure, without doubts there.
That was an interesting revelation.
The Fates I saw as potential manipulators. They were suspects as trying to manipulate, but the actions of the people who they could have been manipulating were obvious contributions, and the actual causes. You said they're not manipulators, but even if they aren't, or were, I knew they weren't responsible. If someone tries to manipulate someone, its ultimately how the one who's target for manipulations acts, or the ones target for manipulations, that determine what happens. Even though they aren't manipulators, the Fates are contributing, and they have no right to do so.
If the Twilight does come, they deserve a wake-up call.
I don't know if you mentioned in the Introduction what Thoth's tragedy was. You explained why he couldn't act, but I'm not sure if the lines after, about how 'that is his tragedy' which were in the THE GARGOYLES SAGA Comment Room were there. I believe so.
That's their own fault. The Fates and he think they can't do anything else. They're living, they can choose to rise above what they've given to themselves. Whether they do or don't is another thing I'll obviously have to wait and see, but thank you for the clarifications there.
Whether or not I would've figured them out myself is unimportant. Perhaps not, perhaps so. You gave me, and perhaps others who could also have been confused, clarifications. Thank you for the clarifications.
The part about Christine in both realities...
First of all, not everyone would want to have anything to do with who Christine became in GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE. Or if they did, not everyone would wish her as a mating toy. I certainly wouldn't, no one is a mating toy. There should be plenty others who know that too.
If I lived then, and actually had enough courage, and possessed the knowledge of her problems I know from reading the story, I'd try to comfort her, and heal her pain. And Lexington's, too. But of course, there's the matter of then getting involved in something that doesn't concern me. If I thought I could help someone, a lot of aspects would matter. By 'concerning me', it doesn't mean in a manner of 'doesn't have anything to do with me', the way many people seem to ignore pain because they don't have time. Its something waay over my head. If I thought it wasn't way over my head and had enough courage to risk my life, because she's obviously very prone to mood swings, I would try to help heal her.
Plenty others probably would, too.
In a lot of stories I wish I could actually enter those realities and heal. Or try to heal. In cases like BREATH OF FIRE II, where one particular choice, no matter what it is, causes a great deal of pain, well, that time I could choose what would happen, but either way, would cause a great deal of pain to the characters.
The one time I could really help, by helping some people who couldn't exist by themselves build a village, in BREATH OF FIRE III, I failed there. Later on I was given a choice, and both choices resulted in tragedy. Those Games are lose-lose, in a way. They give you choices, truly choosing what to do in situations, yet they're lose-lose.
I live the worlds of what I read and feel powerless in many, many cases. The two times I wasn't, I couldn't do anything.
This is not a rebuke or anything. While you may have generalized, I'm just pointing out what I would wish to do, perhaps try to do, if the situation Christine was in in GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE was real. Your statement there gave me a chance to explain that particular viewpoint, of what I'd do. Would try to do, that is.
As for the dominating struggle between Daniel and Christine, its interesting how you say Christine didn't win there. Daniel fully lost, in my opinion. He was in a position to dominate her, but couldn't. She won by freeing her children and herself from the pain he was causing her, and in the same instant, trumphed completely.
That's what I thought.
As for the inaction in that story, oh, that was obvious. The flaws are obvious, and I like it when the characters are flawed. Humans are imperfect, and seeing that imperfection in both GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE, and the other saga, and what is caused in both.
Christine made an excellent tragic character there. She's called an Angel of Music in many cases. This term may have actually been used in the stories, but I'm not sure, and thus, am mentioning it now.
I could say that in GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE Christine made an excellent Fallen Angel. Yet still an Angel.
Davida and her...
Very tragic, and very beautiful.
Most of the problems in your stories come not from malevolence, but from error. That's really cool.
Excellent tragic character in GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE and protrayal of the cycles of pain that are set off by aspects of life.
I also found it beautiful in how she saved herself and her children from more suffering by ending their lives. The wrong choice, but she was a savior there, too. I don't know if you mentioned that she was a savior in GLI ENIGMI SONO TRE, but she was a savior in that case, too.
As for Christine lacking anything in prior stories... I couldn't see anything lacking. Physical relationship aspects and how some of those aspects can pertain in other cases hadn't come into play yet in perhaps any case, but I don't think they were actually necessary at that point of the plotline. That they would've made a difference in character development or plotline like they did later on.
The in-depth view of Christine, in both parts of the final section of the Introduction was a nice gift. I'm not sure exactly where the line about 'return to her roots was'. I think it might've been in the commentary addressed to me last week, but I'm not sure. In the Introduction, whether in the first part of the final section, or the second part of the final section, that was a nice bit of foreshadowing.
I was already afraid she might revert, again, after finding out what happened to Angelica. The foreshadowing didn't really add anything, but in the same case, did.
Now, the story itself.
The start was very powerful.
Coyote's grief and anguish and Owen's reactions and sadness, then Christine's reaction, and the realization she may very well indeed revert after finally having achieved so much. Once again, I was nearly crying.
Titania's last, desperate choice was also sad, although not as much, for some reason. It didn't affect me as much, most likely, because she hadn't been through so much, and overcome so much. She might very well have, but I haven't seen it as much. Although what she thought had to be done... What happened afterwards...
That was sad, and moving.
I wasn't nearly crying there, or if I was nearly crying, not as much nearly crying as I was when reading about Coyote, Owen/Puck, and Christine.
The aftermath...
I'd figured Suinichiro Togakushi was going to get slain at some point or another. Kameto was quite obviously the one who would wish to avenge the loss of one of her own blood, the loss of one she cared about...
I'm still guessing Demona's the first mentioned of the Avengers. Her or Mars, although I doubt Mars would do anything like that.
So I could be wrong. Maybe one of Mars' kids or grandkids... Depending on what happened.
He was in PART V. I didn't need the Demona showing there to guess her, but Mars is a guess there because of that, or perhaps not, because he's also a hybrid.
Julia de la Cruz, maybe.
I'll find out.
The aftermath of Titania's decision...
Oh, boy, you gave three examples, but I have no idea how many really perished. Fey and not fey, I doubt they all would've succeeded. Some might have been beaten, even slain. Not just iron, but combat skill, and such. Although some probably ended up on the receiving end of getting hurt by iron. The casualties on both sides...
Ugh.
The choice and the weight of that choice. Gah!
So sad. Dark and tragic and shows how really desperate the fey are. Grrrrr, Luna, and Phoebe... Darn it! Just because of them and their wish for vengeance there's going to be a lot of blood lost. Darn it!!
Alexander Xanatos...
Interesting exchange between him and Owen. Again, where the heck is the Manhattan Clan!? Probably unable to do anything because for some reason people forget to inform them, or Brooklyn is preventing them from getting involved because he saw something in his timedances.
Kameko and Gabriel... Oh, boy, I can definitely imagine what Kameko's probably going through. Talk about losing innocence... Gabriel's actions, the guilt he'd have to deal with... He seems to be pretty much under control, but there were no glimpses into his mind yet.
He was probably hurt badly too.
A normal kid, and this happens.
Like I said, I know he lost innocence mentally, I by no means meant mortally wounding Luna caused him to lose his innocence. I meant the shock at discovering what he'd just done, of having possibly taken a life.
Kameko was probably hit the hardest.
Whether or not she'll be an emotional wreck for a good deal of time remains to be seen. I'm guessing she will. I've known lost innocence was a theme her, and a strong one, you confirmed it in the Introduction, and I'm not referring to part of it being directed possibly to me.
But this... Oh, boy... Christine's been hit hard, but Kameko... She must be a real wreck now, and could be a definite wreck for a while. Dealing with what just happened to her father... This kind of lost innocence, of being ripped from a completely normal life into *this*... Nevermind what her father told her... But being ripped into *this*... What she's going through now must be...
Oh, brother.
She must be in a *lot* of pain, and that's a shallow statement that says nothing.
Alexander Xanatos perishing... That's hard to believe, he's got the Manhattan Clan, who knows what defenses, a Trickster protector, probably a ton of tricks up his sleeve... Even if caught by surprise... I'm not counting him out yet. There's no way he could go out that easily.
Gabriel's reaction to all this... Its not his right to choose what should and should not happen. Understandable reaction, but considering he's a normal kid, too... That could also bear weight on how this initial reaction turns out, with all of the aspects surrounding it.
As for other aspects... Angelica possibly reborn, the 'newbies', and their target, possibly Owen/Puck, or Demona, or Mars, or someone related to him...
Well, I obviously just have to wait and see what's next.
This promises to be one emotional and very powerful finale.
Excellent job, Jewel Faulkner!! :)

|||||Review of APOKALYPSIS, PART VII: GOTTERDAEMMERUNG I-DIES IRAE Complete|||||

Okay.

"The end comes... beyond chaos!"-Kefka
FINAL FANTASY VI
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:53:31 AM
IP: 148.morristown-01-02rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

Breee- it's the last ep of the season. But don't worry next season will be here before you know it. :)
jenna
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:07:14 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Can anyone tell me if 'Seeds Of Change' is the last ep ?
Breee
CanadaWednesday, August 25, 1999 11:02:36 AM
IP: sarusr1-ip015.xcelco.on.ca

Clicked the wrong picture last time, opps....*grin*
Breee
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:00:54 AM
IP: sarusr1-ip015.xcelco.on.ca

Hey everyone ! How's it going ?
Breee - [breee@cheerful.com]
CanadaWednesday, August 25, 1999 10:58:12 AM
IP: sarusr1-ip015.xcelco.on.ca

Hey there Aaron- :P
jenna
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:48:54 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Just a quick post for now.

SJ>I think Denis Leary has a similar rant in No Cure for Cancer, to the effect that animals can have rights when they get responsibilities.

Anyway, thanks to those who confirmed my non-threateningness. (Is that even a word?) The reason I ask is one of the other lawyers has a new intern, and I seem to make her uncomfortable. She always seems to be watching me out of the corner of her eye. And she's not checking me out, trust me. It's more like the way you try to keep a pitbull or a really big snake in sight at all times. I dunno what the problem is. I haven't been wearing my coat, and I haven't even done anything particularly weird in front of her. Yet. ;)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:18:56 AM
IP: ppp-202.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Fuller comment probally later--

SJ & Pistoff-- thanks for your support-- hugs them both

Christine- let me know what develops on the e-mag- I'm interested and thanks for the em.

Laters-
Jenna
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:13:08 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Goodmorning all
Nightwalker>>>first I'm a Mom, so what I'm saying is from a mom's prespective. I want my kid's to grow up having a very rounded life, good friends, do well in school, and have the chance to explore the world, before they have to take on the responseblities of adulthood. Have you sat down and asked her about her opinion??? She may never see eye to eye with you on everything, but if you want to know what she expects or wants for you, you need to ask. She probably cares a great deal about you. Talking is a wonderful thing, but you need to go into the conversation willing to hear her opinions without getting overly worked up, yelling matches are very unproductive. Heart to heart talks are very worth while, they can open the doors for mutual respect between your mom and you. Be aware that she may never learn to like gargoyles, but thats not what is really at stake, you need her understanding and respect. (My husband hates sc-fi, and finds gargoyles a waste of time-but thats okay-I can't stand golf- I respect his need to golf every week, and well, he has learned to respect my hobbies.)
Hope this helps
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 08:52:52 AM
IP: 207.14.200.173

Wilek> Turing test? IIRC, this only detects the appearance of sentience.

Sevarius Jr.> Those extremists are the reason why I don't join the animal rights movement. No animals for entertainment? It's okay for humans to be actors and such, but not for animals? I mean, come on.

Human rights stems from social contract. Humans make contracts between each others not to kill them or steal their property, if they return the favor. Animals can't reciprocate. You can decide you won't kill a lion, but would the lion think twice before making you his lunch if he had the chance?

I am for the human treatement of animals, and reducing animal testing, most of them being completly useless, like the thousands of studies on whether smoking gives cancer. But extremists only hurt their own cause.
DarkAngel
Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 07:52:07 AM
IP: 05.xp11-2-3.sherbrooke.interlinx.qc.ca

I'm in a slightly loopier mood than usual just now $(I dare not write an RP lest our characters end up fighting a horde of firebreathing emerald penguins)$. Consider thyselves warned. >;)

Pistoff> <<For example, it had a gear shift that you had to push straight down, then move left and forward, in order to put it in reverse! Yes, reverse was next to first gear! Well, for some reason, half the time, I'd try to put it in reverse, and it would go into first instead! Man, if I had a nickel for all the times I nearly took a joyride down a 100-foot cliff...>> ACCKK!! When my New Order engulfs the earth, all worthless cars will be melted down and used as material for my orbital colony. <<The email I'm using now has "phred" in it instead of "pistoff," which probably confused things. I probably should change my online name to avoid similar confusion in the future...but "Pistoff" fits me much better.>> Hm...perhaps you can change what your e-mail program puts in the headers of outgoing messages? Mine is set to display my online name.

Jaden> forgot last time> <> Oh no! My sincerest condolences. :(

Warpmind> <<the school labor is starting to get to me these days...>> It does that to everyone it ensnares. Schools are fountainheads of Banality, a stagnation and death of the chaotic imagination, and the tyranny of sanity. Resist, brothers and sisters! Resist the domination of the normal! <blink>

Aaron> <<Those of you who've met me, I'm fairly non-threatening, right?>> To us, yes, but the mundanes, dimwitted bovines that far too many tend overwhelmingly to be about such matters, might have a different opinion (although isn't that true of all of us?). They go about their insignificant little antlike lives, trapped in their own worthless bodies and stagnant minds, never knowing that there are worlds upon worlds just outside the Banality-forged walls of reality, willfully oblivious to the fact that there are entire universes out there, just waiting to be discovered. They are to be pitied. <blink> I am not lucid just now, and anything I say should be taken with a boulder or two of salt. And a bit of lemon and paprika, and perhaps a glass of vintage Romulan ale.

Ironwolf> NO!!!! NO!!!!!! NOT THE SONG THAT NEVER ENDS! NOT THE ETERNALLY-RECURSIVE DESCENT INTO HELL THAT HAS ENSLAVED THE MINDS OF COUNTLESS UNSUSPECTING MUNDANES!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF THE TRIAT, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!! [Wilek leaps out the window to escape the cloying evil of the Song. It's at the top floor of a thirty-story building, but that's not a problem for a gargoyle.] <<how do we define sentience, and that should be protected.>> Hm...ever hear of a Turing test? :)

SJ> These idiots want to ban the eating of meat?! EXCUSE ME. I could not live on plants alone. It's a thing with me! I must have meat! I need chicken! I need steak! I need bacon! I need protein! I need blood! I need--er, nevermind. :P But seriously, what do these ppl think they're trying to do?! I...I need not go on; you've said everything I could. <<No use of animals for entertainment--I suppose that if you watch an episode of Lassie now, you're a Nazi or something.>> No, you just have bad taste in television. ;P j/k

Adrienne> <<this MAtthew LAwson person...is he the person that MArty Sue'd (is there a better term for that?) himself w/ Brooklyn?>> Yup, Matthew Watson is the one who decided to inflict the nightmare known as The Beautiful People upon the fandom. He deserved the severe MST that Mara gave him. (I do believe that my own desire to be MSTd is a manifestation of a psychological masochism, as is my awful treatment of my own fic character and my hope that my character is killed in WCC. I wonder.)

Coyote> <<feeling terrible this evening, not just maudlin ...>> Oh no. <sigh> At least you always have us to come to. :) <<what I remember of PN Elrod was that she made some rather ... shall we say humorous yet suggestive comments about her dislikes ... among them being slash fics, names containing apostrophes and Jean M. Auel.>> I like names with apostrophes. ^_^

David G.> <<Now, on to other things. I opened Freelance 3 tonight, only to discover that somehow all of last night's work hadn't saved. Fortunately I had zapped a copy to Denis earlier in the evening, so ALL my new work wasn't lost, but a good bit was.>> ACK! This is why I save every thirty seconds or so.

Christine> <<T.J.'s got some problems that are getting more severe; I'm not sure just what the Weird Sisters did to that boy, but he turned out not just asexual in attitude but lately, as evidenced by his reaction to Godiva, _anti_sexual ...>> Which fic is this kid from? :) <<But on happier news, I have been invited to be on a fantasy writer's panel at the Northwest Book Fest this November!>> Congratulations! That sounds kewl. ^_^

FS/LM> Hi LM! Glad you could stop by. ^_^ FS> Hm...wow, maybe Christine WILL start her own publishing company now! <hehehe> Sabledrake Press...has a nice ring to it. <g>

Nightwalker> <<We don't like any of the same things anymore, sometimes I'll pretend that I like something just so she would be happy, but I would like to change that . I am wondering if any of you know what I am talking about. Or do all of your families accept the garg-universe? Gargoyles is the thing she is the least interested in , and it just so happends to be my favorite show. Whenever she sees me watching my tapes she just rolls her eyes and pretends like she had no interest in coming into the living room in the first place. And she talkes to my aunts[her fellow garg-haters] like she has analyzed every second of every episode and thinks that it is a useless effort[the show].AND SHE'S NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE EPISODE. Is anybody catching on to what I am saying? Am I the only one here with that problem?>> Hm...She sounds fairly closed-minded about such things. I hope she doesn't think any less of you just because she doesn't like some things that you do. I think I understand your problem...but I have no idea what to do regarding a solution. Sorry. :/ Although I think there are others here with similar problems; perhaps they can be of assistance (my lack of experience in this regard is probably why I'm of so little help).
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 06:55:41 AM
IP: tnt-1-214-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hi all!!

Gives Coyote a Hug:)

Lexy:Hasn't my donation turned up yet?:(I sent it off on Friday,I hope it hasn't been lost in transit,but I'm probably just being paranoid)

SJ:You're rant wasn.t offensive,and you're fears were quite well founded,I'm all for animal rights but I'm a carnivore and no'one's going to tell me not to eat meat.

SJ again:their making a Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy movie!,cool!(Magic thighs *Snicker*):)

night walker:Can anybody give me any sugestions as to how i can get her to whatch at least one episode , I"m runnong out of options and need advice.And then when she sits down what episode should I put on first? I lost the awakening episodes. Please somebody help me before I go insane.>>You could try to get her to watch "City of stone" or "Hunters Moon" and other Ep's that focus more on story than action "Shadow's of the past" springs to mind.:)

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 06:36:23 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74

Night Walker when you load that Bjork web page it takes a moment to fully load. I clicked on the moving bee and got past the front page. Watch the up/down arrows on the bottom: green down means there is more page, green up means you're at the bottom, gray usually means there is nothing to travel. The small rectangle next to it shows a straight line if its totally loaded and a moving zigzag while loading. I find if I have a long post to type to go to my write e-mail and write it down and do a cut and paste for the text. It works nicely.

Coyote Hey rookery brother <<HUGS>> Bend my ear if you'd like. I'm a listener.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 06:19:02 AM
IP: proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net

Oh and I keep forgetting. I've hardly gotten any E-mail in the past few days. Everyone , feel free to write me about anything, gargoyles , jokes, life, or just to ramble. It would be greatly appreciated. And you will always get a reply.

Goliathgirl5-Where are you?

Goodnight my ...... never mind I'm too tired to say it again , sorry.
night walker - [Goliath01@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 03:14:48 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

Fire Storm and Lady Mystic- Thanx for trying to help. but the link that you gave me sent me to the very page that the box has a problem with. That "welcome to your senses" page is actually in my favorites. It's just that I can't get any farther than that.Are you a fan or did you take up my offer?

Gargoyles logo-strait jackets- actually a great idea. But we'd have to have our names on the shirts so we could recognize each other. I wonder how much they would cost.And we could have a little room reserved for us members. Oh the possibilities.And if I ever actually make it to one meeting all of you would be one of the best parts.It would be great , if only my mom wasn't a gargaphobic, or garg-hater, I'm still not sure which. And if there was ever one in the chicago area.

Now,Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 03:08:24 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

Starsinger-Thanks, I was wondering why everyone was acting unusual[that is usual in a gargoyles comment room sort of way]. I didn't know that i wasn't supposed to test colors here.

Can anyone help me? My mother and I seem to be growing farther apart. And I don't know why , that's not what i need help with though. See , my mother has never really told me what she wanted in a son , a doctor, phsychiatrist, a proctoligist? I don't know. Ever since I was little I knew that i was different from her[skin color included , but not really the point] . We don't like any of the same things anymore, sometimes I'll pretend that I like something just so she would be happy, but I would like to change that . I am wondering if any of you know what I am talking about. Or do all of your families accept the garg-universe? Gargoyles is the thing she is the least interested in , and it just so happends to be my favorite show. Whenever she sees me watching my tapes she just rolls her eyes and pretends like she had no interest in coming into the living room in the first place. And she talkes to my aunts[her fellow garg-haters] like she has analyzed every second of every episode and thinks that it is a useless effort[the show].AND SHE'S NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE EPISODE. Is anybody catching on to what I am saying? Am I the only one here with that problem? Most of you are living on your own or are at college right?, BUT IF ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH HERE IS MY QUESTION.Can anybody give me any sugestions as to how i can get her to whatch at least one episode , I"m runnong out of options and need advice.And then when she sits down what episode should I put on first? I lost the awakening episodes. Please somebody help me before I go insane.

Sevarius jr.-I agree . Although animals should be treated well , they still aren't equal to us. As far as we know , there aren't any sentient animal species out there.I myself don't eat pork[because I just don't like the taste] but I can't resist a good hamburger.And as for sentient creatures, If there really are gargoyles and talking dolphins[DSV] they would be an exeption.

Speaking of our animal friends, has anybody read the book "When elephants weep". It is a really good book about animal emotions . If you have spare time go pick up a copy.[not a aid advertisment but more like expressed admiration]

Dream or vision?- I had a really strange garg dream. It must have been in the future , because I had a girlfriend in it [very distant]. But I was just sitting at home watching what I think was the gargoyles movie, or what my mind wants it to be. It was animated and had a PG-13 rating. The only things about it that I can remembar were scattered images . most of which did not make sense. I think I saw a depressed Goliath and a shapeshifter[Proteus?]. That's all I can remember so far, maybe when I'm less tired I'll remember more. But I'm sure you all have had dreams about a gargoyles filled future.Oh well, I guess I'll use them in a fic or something . Oh and I have three fics currently written , in a notebook on my desk. If any of you are interested I'll give you the titles as soon as I go through what webtv offers for HTML.I'm figuring it out, just not as fast as I want to .

Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters.

P.S.-Sorry I was acting weird earlier , I had just come back from my orientation and I start school thursday. Wish me luck.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:43:54 AM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net

Co-Workers: That was the TAME stuff. There is WAY worse stuff!

Christine:Night Saber: Hell, I'd rather see your continuation rather than Lucas's.

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: Is that book series really worth reading?

DVD: Ordered The Matrix (9-21-99) AND I ordered *THE DARK CRYSTAL!* YES! It is NOW available on DVD! (Or at least SHOULD be. Backorder.)
LM is a little happy.

<>LM Speaking<>
Needless to say I'm a little ecstatic! I still think that I'm dreaming! I'm ... SPEACHLESS! I can't wait for the day when I can hold the DVD in my hands...

Hi everyone!

Coyote & Green Baron: I really enjoyed talking to both of you at the G'99. You both are very friendly and interesting to converse with. I look foward to meeting both of you again. :)

See you later. (I'll try to stop by more often.)

<<LM leaves FS's computer and returns to her current task (business card designing).>>
<>/LM Speaking<>

Christine: Sabledrake Publishing? Hmm...
Ya know... for about $1200 you CAN grab a laser printer use a bulk cutter AND thermal bind books together. (B&W cover.)
For $2000, you could probally make a complete publishing company.
(500 sheets of 8x11 paper=1000 sheets of 5.5x8 paper (Curse of the Shadow Beasts size). Not including machine costs, you could probally get your cost per 150 page book down to roughly 3 dollars per book. Color cover, add $.10 (Ink, paper, binding suplies. (Or less than $2 for a 4x7 (500 8x14(LEGAL)= 2000 4x7 (Standard paperback)
(Any questions, e-mail me. My personal company SPECIALIZES in machines and consulting. I do not offer that service, but I can help you set it up.)
(Working at an office supply store AND just knowing alot of general trivia can be VERY helpful, especially when it is your job!)
(Now distributation, on the other hand... Well, I have ideas. E-mail me for more.)
And I think you can do it.

night walker: Hell, I think I see why it screwed up your WebTV. Try my link. It passes the big bad Java.
Fire Storm AND Lady Mystic - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 02:22:08 AM
IP: 216.90.45.166

Delphi- good thing I read a few of the comments, this helps me explain what happened. I was doing a few posts like I usually do around noon, and I was just about to write something else and when I tried to send it it wouldn't let me , it kept saying something about the server not responding.And then when I went back to the comments page it had doubled. Later I went back to post something and it took me about ten minutes to get in , and I had no trouble getting into any other sites. Well I had this very long post typed and again it wouldn't let me send it .I thought it would double like the last one but I tried sending it anyway. And when i came back to this page it had not been sent . So right after I send this one I'll be trying to type up something along the lines of that post . I wonder what was going on then.

Starsinger-Hi , could you do me a favor? could you go to www.bjork.co.uk/bjork?Or you could just type bjork on search and go to bjork's web-sense. I tried to go to this site through webtv and it shut itself off. Nothing bad happened it just restarted itself. It was weird. I need to know if it's just my box or is it all of them . Thanks.

Now i will atempt to rewrite my previously unwritten post.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, August 25, 1999 01:47:11 AM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net

I'm back. It's been only a day, but a day is a day. (That didn't sound too weird did it?)

Anyway I'm only posting this so I know how much I missed the last time I checked. I don't have anything else to add except I'm writing and drawing. I'll soon have a scanner opened for me in which I hope to show my picture (of a garg)

So Here is a quick Top ten I usually make when I'm not paying attention to anyone. This is just to tie you over.

Top Ten things Coldstone hates.
10. Magnets
9. ColdSteel (obviously)
8. Bill Gates
7. Viagra
6. Rain
5. Melisa Virus
4. Someone telling him "Your screws are loose"
3. Running into telephone wires
2. Windows 98
1. Y2K

Sarge. Caution, handle with care.
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:59:23 PM
IP: spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com

Can't...load...room... AUGH! Sorry if I miss a few responses, but this stupid piece of crap is jacking around with me again!

Thanks to Coyote, GB, Wilek, Pistoff, and any others I missed for advice on my ex (all guys, hmmm). Your words were most helpful and thoughtful. We *actually* stopped dating a year ago, I think. But he's in all of my classes, we sit together at lunch, and my brother is his idol. The moment he started acting like a jerk was when his "band" cut their first CD. Yeah, I know that's something to be really excited about (they'll be famous one day) but does he have to mention it every second of the day? I think not. Truthfully, I think he only started dating me to be nice to my brother, or cause no one else was available...awwww, now I'm gonna cry :( But my chances with my "church" crush are looking up!

Jaden> I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother. She'll be in my prayers...

I believe Kyryn's birthday is this Thursday, so prepare for another b-day bash... OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:55:38 PM
IP: dll2b206-30.splitrock.net

David G. > I remember you talking about it; I'd have to check with Tim as he'll be handling the gaming end of things, but I think he'd go for it!

Jewel > someone wanted you to write like me? That'd be ... weird. Kinda fun, but weird ; )

Gross requests > well, they mostly came on the heels of my Lion King story and my Trek stories, involving Scar and Simba, or Riker and Wesley ... generally not something I would be able to do (nor really want to; contrary to some opinions, I do try to keep people in character).

Adrienne > T.J.'s got some problems that are getting more severe; I'm not sure just what the Weird Sisters did to that boy, but he turned out not just asexual in attitude but lately, as evidenced by his reaction to Godiva, _anti_sexual ... don't know what the heck he's doing in _my_ universe that way! ; )

Robby > "Let he who is without KIN STASH the first CLONE" ... does that help? ; )

Book stuff > thanks, all, for the support! It makes it easier to know I'm not suffering alone. Who knows, maybe someday I will just go on and start Sabledrake Publishing. That'll teach 'em! But on happier news, I have been invited to be on a fantasy writer's panel at the Northwest Book Fest this November!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:39:30 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Hei, Y'awll!

*hugs Coyote* You okay, luv? Feel better....:)

Out of Curiosity- does anyone remember a show some years ago called The Phantom? It took place in the future, an' it had a really lovely distinctive style- tall an' skinny....The lead chara wore a purple uniform an' had purple-yellow braided...uhm...whip-thingies... the female lead was a cop w/ a big gray wolf....an; there was a kid..a hacker? Well.....jes' wondering...does anyone know how it ended? I remember it was quite good, an' I hope it didn't jes' fizzle out....

Christine- uno mas thing an' dinna be offended because it rocked and so do you so dinna hate me please please please please- h'rai for Darth Mary Sue!

* Jeremy the Crow swoops down and Adrienne is snagged in the miles of string trailing after him*
AU reviors!

Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:34:49 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

Lexy: To clear up the confusion, I'm Fred Kerns. The email I'm using now has "phred" in it instead of "pistoff," which probably confused things. I probably should change my online name to avoid similar confusion in the future...but "Pistoff" fits me much better. :P

David G: Damn! Sorry about what happened to your story. The same thing has happened to me numerous times, and I know it's painful. I hope the damage isn't too bad...

Coyote: Aww, man, we hate to see you so depressed. :( **hugz**

Everybody else: Coyote needs a hug...
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:18:32 PM
IP: wire-22.koalas.com

goodeve everyone-did anyone else have trouble getting in here this evening? I sure did.

Where's the meat?????sorry couldn't resist---What is really bad is the parody of a song that IS RUNNING AROUND IN MY HEAD(SUNG TO THE TUNE "WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE")
<<Where has all the poultry gooone......

If you think the animal rights people are bad you should have read some of the articles we would discuss in college(Okay you should know that I'm an Aggie, and some where around this desk is my 2yr Ag-Business deg) so we would always be watching those silly things, one was this long conveluted article on why global warming was being caused by cattle, yes cattle. The whole article was based on cow farts(methane gas)being responsible messing up our earth(of course they totally ignored lthe fact that humans also release methane gas, but it didn't stop them from putting it in writing.

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:14:53 PM
IP: 207.14.200.180

**enters the room, dragging himself in. Switches out the candles lethargically, then flops down on the floor**

Ugh ... feeling terrible this evening, not just maudlin ...

P.N. Elrod: Okay, since two folks have requested it, what I remember of PN Elrod was that she made some rather ... shall we say humorous yet suggestive comments about her dislikes ... among them being slash fics, names containing apostrophes and Jean M. Auel. I particularly was laughing at her comments about Auel, that much I recall right now ... anyone else with a better memory who was at the fanfic panel, feel free to jump in at any time.

Aaron: You weren't threatening to me, at least ... of course, considering I'm twice your size ...

Spike: Doing it that way would work ... I only suggested it the way I did because that was how Cyrway and myself wrote the Trio Offspring match.

SJ: It appears to me that those animal-rights extremists you refer to have never heard of a brilliant little thing called the FOOD CHAIN!!
If you want a true judgment of what would happen if they got their way, look at India. A booming populace, many of them starving, yet because of their religious beliefs they eat no meat, and in fact let livestock run free in the streets and eat anything they damn well please. Those animal-rights extremists are trying to turn the US into India, I think ... maybe they *like* starvation?

Adrienne: That would be the same Matthew Watson. I've tried to read his fics ... truth be told "The Beautiful People" was only tolerable when I read it by way of Mara Cordova's MSTie of it.

Lexy/Kaioto: Coolies, I was curious about the tally.

**sighs sadly, glances up at the candle. Begins to sing in a sad, mournful, barely audible voice**

"Act one -- the story's just begun
Act two -- I fell in love with you
Act three -- knew it was meant to be
Act four -- you can't love me no more ..."

**curls up in a ball again, gazing up at the flame.**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:56:35 PM
IP: modem60.i-is.com

SJ> I agree and don�t on the animal thing. Yea the Vegite that takes the meat out of my mouth is gonna be missing fingers. Now that ever one knows I am a carnivore what about Sentience. I have seen dogs show a sense of humor and heck have you seen what they can do for the disabled? I have seen a dog show emotion use tools (our dog can opens doors). I have even seen dogs play jokes on each other. Now a cow has never shown anything like intelligence but other animals have so how do we define sentience, and that should be protected.
ironwolf
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:44:35 PM
IP: host-209-215-8-119.cha.bellsouth.net

Picture this evening for a still absent friend.

Toku Kaioto> I have everything roughed out. I'm waiting to get some other things out of the way before I do more. The biggest challenge is that I need to find quotes for the pretentious little chapter headings. I intend to duplicate the layout of Vampire: the Masquerade for Goth, so I need to have quotes.

I'm looking for good satirical quotes, things that sound Gothic, but really aren't. For instance, I intend to get a copy of 'The Book of Eyore' (sp? - the donkey from Winnie the Pooh) and use dialouge from 'Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.'

I'd love input from anyone who's interested.

BTW, that reminds me...

Christine> I think Goth: the Ennui would be a great project for your new webzine. If you happen to read this, get back to me and let me know what you think. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm in the process of writing a World of Darkness spoof where the characters are Goths who wallow in self-pity while trying to be cool.

Now, on to other things. I opened Freelance 3 tonight, only to discover that somehow all of last night's work hadn't saved. Fortunately I had zapped a copy to Denis earlier in the evening, so ALL my new work wasn't lost, but a good bit was. That really hurts. I'm also curious about how it managed to happen. Word should have told me I had made changes and asked me if I wanted to save.

Oh well, the new version is probably better.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:41:50 PM
IP: pppa70-fortworth14-4r235.saturn.bbn.com

OK now here are the ppl's who sent their checks or cash already. thank
you to those who have sent and those still sending!

OK I ran into 3 ppl probs..who are you?
Fred Kerns-5.00
David- 5.00
Jay- 5.00
Sorry to use the real names here..but I need to know who to mark these
ppl off as..such as Jay are you skippy? And so on..just need to know
thanks!:)

and tell me if any of these are wrong

Lexy-10.00
Jenniren-5.00
Starsinger- 5.00
Aaron- 5.00
Coyote- 50.00
Jaden- 40.00
Lawrence- 6.00

OK these are the ppl who HAVE sent money or checks just to make sure we
got that. We still have pleanty of time so please dont feel pushed
*smiles* thanks a lot ppls for your help! If i wrote anything here
wrong (aside from spelling errors) please tell me!:)

ADRIENNE- just so ya know..i have been trying to email U on how to
participate in helping out Heather and Robby..but your email isnt
working with me..i tried a couple of times..do you think you could
email me? thanks!

(Submitted from EM by Toku Kaioto)
Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
West Bend, WI, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:34:49 PM
IP: 1cust183.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Aaron: <Those of you who've met me, I'm fairly non-threatening, right?> Well, sure, to me you are. But then, it takes a lot to make me feel threatened... ;)

Jenna: I agree about the whole religion-in-fic bit. There's no reason anybody should flame you over it. If somebody doesn't like the story or doesn't agree with it, then they should just not read it. Just go on to something else. Easy, right? But a lot of people can't figure that out. They're just dying to be offended by something. Gargoyles always tried to reflect the real world that we live in (within certain parameters, of course), and a lot of people believe in some sort of higher power in the world we live in, so that should naturally be a part of Garg fics (in some form or another), simply to reflect more of reality. There's absolutely no reason to get upset about it. It'd sure be nice if people could be mature enough to handle it. But I guess that's too much to expect.... :(

SJ: Thanks for the info on Starship Troopers! :D Oh, and as for your rant--hell, no, that wasn't offensive, at least not to me. Sorry, people, but I gotta have meat in my diet. Chicken, beef, bacon, whatever. If those stupid bastards make it illegal to eat animals, I will friggin' eat THEM! I'll rip a leg off and barbecue it right in front of them! Hey, it's only fair, if animals have equal rights, then I should be able to eat the humans who made it happen. After all, humans and animals would be equal, right? ;) Anyway, you're right, it's frightening. This is the same kind of political-correctness crap that was already threatening our freedom, only this is a more severe form of it. Damn, man, when will the madness end?

"I think 'chairman' OUGHT to be 'chairperson.' I think 'spokesman' OUGHT to be 'spokesperson.' But when they want me to call that thing in the street a 'personhole cover,' I THINK THAT'S GOING TO FAR!!!"
--George Carlin
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 09:54:27 PM
IP: wire-22.koalas.com

Hei, y'awll!

Christine- Rejected? *snarls* Oh- Night Saber's bloody good- :) but... Disgusting? Not really, although I temd to skim over the graphic parts....but TJ (or whoever said it in Indigo)'s a bit of a prude, ne?

Wilek, etc.- *grinz* Maul an' Obi-Wan bein' a couple's a sorta in-joke...They were put together at the Sith Academy as a joke because it's so ridiculous. ;) But it's *not* a slash archive!

Thomas Forsyth- WELCOME BACK!

Oh....this MAtthew LAwson person...is he the person that MArty Sue'd (is there a better term for that?) himself w/ Brooklyn? *Wierd*.

By the Way...when is Dark Ages scheduled to premiere?

Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 09:48:21 PM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

No RP tonight. Just cause.

EVERYONE LISTEN UP: STARSHIP TROOPERS, the show that our own Greg Weisman contributed to, begins to air THIS FRIDAY, the 27th, on the Sci-Fi channel at 7:30 a.m. It will then air in that timeslot on the Sci-Fi channel EVERY WEEKDAY starting Monday the 30th. If you don't have the Sci-Fi channel, you'll have to look in your cable book for syndication listings.
AUSTIN VIEWERS: The show will air at 6 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. every weekday on UPN channel 13 starting on Monday the 30th.
Give the show a looksie, folks! It's supposedly very good, with cutting edge CGI effects in the same vein as Beast Wars or War Planets. And if Greg is involved, you have some gaurantee it won't suck totally.

Hitchhiker fans: In case you didn't know, a Hitchhiker movie is being made, and Douglas Adams wants *you*, his fans, to give him some feedback. He will be answering fan questions over at the www.aint-it-cool-news.com site. If you want to ask him a question about the upcoming film (you know, content and the like), email your questions to: harry@aint-it-cool-news.com. Who knows, maybe Doug will answer one of your queries!

Jenna: I think creationism has a place in the Gargoyles universe. While Greg may have opted for a evolution view (and I know some "purists" in here would probably crow if someone strays from that), I think that creation can be handled. And you did, quite wonderfully I might add. You did good, and don't listen to some schmuck who has a problem with your writing just because they have a different idealogy, and can't handle the fact that each author has a different creative viewpoint of the Garogyles universe.

Speaking of opposing viewpoints: I'm literally sick with what I'm hearing right now on CNBC, "Rivera Live". People are as we speak adamantlly fighting to gain animals the same rights as people. *Sigh* Get ready for a rant, people.
***RANT HERE****
What the HELL is wrong with these people!?!?! I'm for the humane treatment of animals, absolutely. If you want to live as a vegetarian, fine by me. Animals should not be used as test subjects for cosmetics, no way, no how. But you should hear what these people are purposing. No use of animals for food--PERIOD. No use of animals for entertainment--I suppose that if you watch an episode of Lassie now, you're a Nazi or something. Animals should be given the same rights as people, that's their motto. You don't "own" your dog, you are the dog's "guardian".
I.....I know that somebody in here will probably flame me for this. I'm not an animal hater. I love animals probably more so than the average individual. Hell, my dad once ran over a raccoon with the car when I was about 10, I STILL haven't gotten over it. But what is this crap? Really, come on!!! Animals should not, no way, never, be given *equal* rights as humans. They should never be treated with cruelty, but I mean, Jesus!!! If these folks had their way, you couldn't even eat any animal! Now for God's sake, I think I ought to be at least be able to eat what I want. I'd at least like to not have that freedom RAPED away from me. I'm numb from the argument I just heard. And I'm scared. People are putting animals above human life.....that is so wrong to me. I do believe we have a high responsibility to place a great price on animal life....but NOT EVER should an animal be considered equal with a human. Whether you believe in nature or religion, evolution or creation, humans are the dominant species. Does that mean we should be warlords over our earth? No, we should be responsible with it....and we haven't done that well, but we should. As it stands, if these people want better conditions for animals, fine by me. But EQUAL RIGHTS??? Jesus no. Equal rights for all *people*, but animals.....*deep sigh* This boggles my mind. It really does.
****END WHAT I'M SURE WAS AN OFFENSIVE RANT (to some of you, probably)***

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 09:40:38 PM
IP: 207-172-54-70.s70.tnt16.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Night Walker the only reason I threatened everyone with dire happenings if they said anything was, usually we don't encourage checking out the pictures or colors that way. I just didn't want anyone to come down on you when you were still looking for yourself.

OK for those of you who didn't peek, the website was to a site for building your own hampster dance page. Scary doesn't cover it.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:55:48 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Hey there Aaron!!!!
Jenna
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:37:30 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

I just finished reading Night Saber and I gotta say... damn! All in favor of letting Christine write the next to Star Wars movies say aye!

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:36:41 PM
IP: ppp-65.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Hope I didn't sound to preachy with my last post......
Jenna
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:18:11 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

**pops in briefly**

Just a quick one, for some clarification ...

Stephen: Actually, to tell the truth ... of the other three writers involved in the match, the only one who would still need my permission should they choose to write the whole match would be Spike, since both you and Christine fall under the WCC blanket permission for any and all of my characters. So ye already have mine. :)

Longer one later ... off to write "Team Charlie" some more ...

**pops out**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 01:55:20 PM
IP: modem60.i-is.com

SPIKE - Actually, I sent in the suggestion for the two DM's to Cyrway already, and she likes them both (I think Wesson made the comment, "If it's got Jericho in it... Think of the RATINGS!!!") :)

I still don't know if it will be approved by her, but as far as the writing of the fictionalization of the matches, well, that's up in the air, because I'd need permission from you, Christine, and Coyote before I started putting words to paper...

Besides, it might be fun to do the co-writer thingie again. After all, speaking for myself, If I wrote the stories alone, I'd be sort of biased as to the outcome, where some of the characters are concerned. ;)

Anyway, that's all from me for now. Going to try to work today, even though my head still feels stuffed up.

Maintain and Check Six!

P.S. - Spike, glad you liked the filk I sent you. You really should listen to Joe Diffie. He's got a twist on country that needs to be heard to be believed. :)
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 01:21:56 PM
IP: m81.ieway.com

Regarding the 4-way Deathmatch co-writing thing>>
Once upon a time, I joined an adult Gargoyles fan-fic mailing list (still in existance but not very active). All the bigshots were there -- Christine, Tara O'shea, Merlin Missy, Constance Cochrane, Leva Mevis and others. When I joined up, they were doing this madcap, convoluted round robin story where multiple crossovers were being dropped into the storyline -- Captian Simian & the Space Monkeys, Ghostbusters -- I brought Godzilla, big fun.

The point (that I think I'm getting around to) is that while most of us are not especially congenial co-writers, I think it might be possible to set up a storyline, establish the characters, and decide who writes which segments, passing the story in relay race fashion, each writer in full control of their segments and passing it to the next one. But first and foremost, if this is going to be a Deathmatch story, Amy Cyrway must be contacted; she did start all this. It could be a lot of fun.

*shrugs* Or pigs could fly. Whatever.
Spike
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:44:53 PM
IP: pppt14-89.ght.iadfw.net

Sorry about the quad' post.I can't wait til later.

Robby-Really,I HAD issues #1-55 before the move.I could never find any past that.

Starsinger-The temptation was too great.I looked and heard,NOOOO.... The teddy bears picnic. That song is the Satan's way of bringing little children into nightmares. It did that for me . Sanity....going....dissapearing.Actualy I lost my sanity way before coming here.Bad joke. But clever.
night walker
hobart, IN, usa
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:20:07 PM
IP: proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net

Even though you already said your welcome , thanx Wilek
night walker
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:43:31 AM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Is this true? Gargoyles is now on a reachable channel to us around the chicago area , and primetime.before my hopes get up I now need for it to be 5 days a week not only one.God , why cic I not come to the comment room that day , Enter Macbeth was one of the episodes I lost.Does anyone know what episode comes on next sunday if one does? thanx.

Sanity....lost....must....post....again.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:36:33 AM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

starsinger-color tests?,Do you mean my color tests? Are they driving you crazy. I found my color now. Sorry. I didn't know of any other way. But if you scroll up and down really fast it can make you very, very, very, very, very, verrrrr....dizzy.

Robby-I know I have a bad sence of humor , but I'm working on it . That wasn't meant in a sarcastic way either.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:26:42 AM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Halloween> if my workout at the gym goes as planed I think I will be Johnny Bravo �hey there hot Mama� I still have the gamer gut but hey I will settle for the chest. My friends girl can�t watch the show cause she rolls out of her chair laughing going �its him!� I figured a blonde wig black glasses and a tee shirt and a little he ha ho and they will have to cart her away. That and a killer party in Athens Ga are my plans

AND Now since none of you fear the wheels on the bus song I shall unleash a horde of disney characters with the dreaded leader �let there be LAMBCHOP�

This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing not knowing what it was
And they�ll continue singing forever on because
This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing not knowing what it was
And they�ll continue singing forever on because
This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing not knowing what it was
And they�ll continue singing forever on because

ironwolf
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:43:49 AM
IP: host-209-214-41-102.cha.bellsouth.net

Jackson-- no, the flaming for "Let there be gargoyles" has stopped for the time being. Thanx for asking.

I am thinking about doing another creation story theme-- this time focusing on Mab, the mother of the Third Race. This will probally come into my Misbegotten Son Cycle.

The cycle itself is going fine. I hope to have it out mid sept at the latest (only a month behind what I hoped for) well, rl gets hairy sometimes.

I think it has become rather fashionable not to believe in anything. In modern society, I mean. If people don't want to beilieve in God, that is of course, ultimately their choice. And you can be an agnositic/athiest and still be a decent person. I think what I encountered with the flaming I recieved for my story, is that some people have strong issues with religion. Personal Hang ups, I mean. And this individual thought it was stupid of me to write about God in anyway, because they didn't believe in Him. Again, that is their right to chose not to believe-- just as it is mine to choose to do so. It reminded me the stoning of nonbelivers done by various cultures. Only this time, it was turned the other way--

Some people can't seperate there personal beliefs from what they read. Some people I know didn't like B5 because of the relgious implications of the Vorlons and the Shadows- I for one liked it.

I write alot about Fate and God-- I really don't know why I do. I don't set out to do so, it just seems to work itself into my writings. Weather it's fanfic, or orginal fic, or poetry- there is some type of acknowledgement that there is some higher power than ourselves. My Cathloic teachers would be so proud J/k *L*

As for God in Gargs- some people say that this would ruin the complex nature of this universe. I disagree. One can write about higher powers without preaching and by being subtle. Leaving it open to question, for the audience to figure out is better that blatently beating them over the head with it. I can't say what I intend to do just yet-- as it would be a major spoiler- but I do intend to do it in a way that lets the readers conclude what happened --

well, that's all I can write now- I may comment more later

Jenna
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:34:48 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Morning all. Just a quick post for now.

Starsinger> You can't scare me! I've had to sit through Wee Sing in Sillyville videos.

Wilek> Well, to each his own captain.

Pistoff><<Which means, I guess, anybody who eats regularly at Taco Bell apparently whacks all the time. :P>>LMAO Yo quiero... Um, I'll be right back.

Those of you who've met me, I'm fairly non-threatening, right?

Later.

Aaron wanders of, singing Motorhead's "War for War."

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:18:06 AM
IP: ppp-182.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

goodmorn everyone:
Robby>>thanks for the music, love them, Oh and are you refering to christine's sevarius joke, if so,maybe this will help "he who is without sin, cast the first stone"

>HOW TO SPEND YOUR DASH
>
>I read of a man who stood to speak
>At the funeral of a friend.
>He referred to the dates on her tombstone
>>From the beginning ... to the end.
>He noted that first came her date of birth
>And spoke the following date with tears,
>But he said what mattered most of all
>Was the dash between those years. (1900-1970)
>
So how are you going to spend your dash????
carch you all later
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 08:53:32 AM
IP: 207.14.200.77

Hi all!!

Delphi:Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals>>*LOL*What kind of moron would do that?

Coyote:Ohh, you shoulda been at the fanfic panel at the Gathering when P.N. Elrod gave her opinion on slash fanfic. Fun was had by all, let me tell ya. ;)>>Now I'm curious,do tell;)

Christine:Sorry to hear your Novel was rejected again.

Theresa:You peeked didn't you.>>Yes I did and I think I'm going to have nightmares!:)

Mandolin:Come back soon!

night walker:Like the new name and I'm sorry to hear about your troubles in other chat rooms.

Congratulations Mary and Dags!:)

Wilek:Don't make me break out my kazoo and armpit flatulence rendition of the Smurfs theme. 8P j/k>>*ROTFLMAO*

Jaden:Welcome back! Sorry about your grandmother:(

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 08:46:52 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74

Hi, y'all.

Not much time, but the ongoing puns called for the story of the greedy shepherd. He never learned to shear.

Of course, I'll pay for that one...

Now, for that gawgeous beaked dame: Zath come home! Zath come home! Everybody, Zath come home! Zath come home!
**Blinks** Um, okay, I'm not obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I'm not obsessed... uh... I better stop now.

Sorry if I seem a tad confusing, but the school labor is starting to get to me these days...

Oh, and for a good laugh, visit this page:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/athlon.shtml
it's really fun. And at least I'll bet Christine would like it.

Well, see you guys, the bell rings soon.

**Holds a toothpick like a blunt weapon and hides behind the door.**
I'll probably see you again in about ten to twenty years, maybe less with good behaviour.

Oh, and click my name for a good cause.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 04:50:34 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Warpmind: Oh, god... LOL! As for the Beakgirl pic, it was drawn by Zath. I think she said she would be gone for a week or so. She asked if she should draw more beaked chicks, and I said sure, be my guest. :)

Delphi: <On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals.> Oh crap!! Somebody must've actually done that...aaaaaarrrrrggghhh! :O

Christine: Sorry about the rejection. You're ahead of me by one, but probably not for long... ;) As the old saying goes, writers always have to prove their talent to those who have none. The problem is, the latter are always the ones who make or break the former.... :( Anyway, I wish ya the best of luck. Hopefully, one of those...people...will show a little brainpower and accept your book.

Fire Storm: Ye gods! I hope that grievance letter does some good. That kind of situation is just plain WRONG! Maybe it's time to add a few more targets to the Joyride... :) Anyway, I hope things can be worked out. Good luck.

jewel: Interesting stuff about pornography. Reminds me of a research paper I did in my senior-year advanced English class in high school. The topic had to be something related to England (pre-20th century). I cast around for a topic for a couple of weeks (I didn't want to do the same, mundane crap everybody else was doing, like stuff about the royal family or something. I wanted to do something...unique.). Then I hit on the idea of comparing attitudes toward sex and women back then to the way they are now in our, heh, "civilization." As I was researching the topic, I found a book about medeival views of sex and masturbation. One of the interesting things was that men were expected to "sow a few wild oats" before marrying (and of course women were expected to remain virgins until after marriage...which is odd because how can men sow wild oats without de-virginizing women...boy, they really thought these things out back then, didn't they? hehe). Then the men got married, and would presumably proceed to sew a few tame oats. Also, the views on masturbation were quite amusing. In addition to the "symptoms" we already know about (hair on the palms, blindness), there were a few I'd never heard of, such as dark circles under the eyes and a fondness for heavily spiced foods. Which means, I guess, anybody who eats regularly at Taco Bell apparently whacks all the time. :P

Another nifty tidbit of info I picked up was the way plays were performed--no women were allowed. The female roles were played by men. Which made the love scenes rather interesting, I suppose. ;) Compare that to movies nowadays, in which we can see Sharon Stone beating the snot out of Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Sigourney Weaver almost ripping Ron Perlman's tongue out ("Want another souvenir?"). My my, how far we've progressed.... ;)

Delphi again: Whoa, weird! I used to have a paper route at 4:00 AM, too. I did that for 3 years, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm f--ked in the head. :P I had an '81 Volkswagen Dasher (and it did *NOT* dash, heh), a rattling diesel model with some severe problems. For example, it had a gear shift that you had to push straight down, then move left and forward, in order to put it in reverse! Yes, reverse was next to first gear! Well, for some reason, half the time, I'd try to put it in reverse, and it would go into first instead! Man, if I had a nickel for all the times I nearly took a joyride down a 100-foot cliff... ;/

Mandolin: We'll miss ya, come back soon.

SJ: (re: school) Yuck! That brings back memories, most of them bad. You have my most sincere condolences.

Night Walker: Oh, man, sorry about what happened in those other chat rooms. Rest assured, you won't be ignored here. :)

SOROW: Oh, man...I'm not sure if this helps or not, but here's my two cents. If the guy is your ex, then he has no right to even be talking to you, much less treat you like crap and still expect to be your escort. I'd recommend just telling him flat-out that it's over and you're seeing someone else. Usually, it's best to just nip it in the bud. And if he keeps pushing, you could have a restraining order slapped on him. :) I'm not sure how workable this is--it's different from one case to the next--but you've got to live your own life. Don't let your ex have any control. Anyway, I hope this helps....

Kaioto: Yikes! A friend of mine had a similar problem, but his solution, while creative, was less than subtle. His parents locked the door and left while he was at school, and he came home and couldn't get in. "This is not a problem," he said to himself, and went to a friend's house to borrow the guy's skill saw and an extention cord. He then went home and cut one of the living room windows out with the saw, and climbed through. You can bet that his parents never locked him out again.... :)

Green Baron: Welcome back! Glad to hear that you're working again, and enjoying it! :D

Coyote: Interesting punishment for the sex offenders. That's another reason I try to stay clear of pornography, nowadays. I'm already ultra-horny all the time. I'd rather not overload and have some kind of meltdown... ;P

Jaden: Welcome back! Sorry about your grandmother, though. :~(
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:31:00 AM
IP: 207.48.109.31

**MR. DISCONNECT DEATH!**

[Without knowing how, the hacker finds himself shackled to the wall in what looks like a demonic sanctuary. When his vision clears, he sees Wilek's Dark Mage clone standing before him, grinning evilly; six mysterious figures stand in the shadows around him. DM: "Welcome. I hear you've been making life difficult for my current allies. We can't have that, can we. I'd like you to meet my associates." With that, DM's six unknown assistants step into the dim light. They look like Power Rangers whose suits were designed by Marilyn Manson--different-colored jumpsuits decorated with studded leather and ruby pentagrams. Their signature colors seem somehow familiar--the leader's suit is dark purple, and the others are red, blue, green, brown, and jade, the last being the sole female of the group. DM: "Meet...the Dark Rangers. My personal enforcers. Their creation was simple--kill the 'real' Power Rangers and infuse them with 'souls' of my own design." Brown Ranger: "This is the lad we're supposed to be...servicin'? <hehehe>" DM: "Correct. He will be released into a forest near here. You will hunt him down and torment him until there is nothing left of him to torment." Jade Ranger: "In the style of the Blair Witch? Ah. This DC-san will provide *great* amusement..."]

**PAUSE**

Coyote> <<Ohh, you shoulda been at the fanfic panel at the Gathering when P.N. Elrod gave her opinion on slash fanfic. Fun was had by all, let me tell ya.>> I have to hear this. >:) Hm...you seem *awfully* sad tonight. :( I hope Ravyn posts here soon...

BTW, has anyone sent me e-mail since Saturday? The last time I got any was Friday night, and I'm inclined to believe that Mr. Disconnect has visited my mail server again.

Aaron> <<But everybody wants to get away from Janeway. Why should the Borg be different?>> Er...I don't know, I've always rather liked her. ^_^

Nightwalker> Kewl new name. ^_^ <<can someone tell me were the coming attractions page with the Dean Devlin[may he burn] script review was.>> That would be http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/gargoyles.html You're welcome. ^_^

Christine> Rejected again? Dang. Maybe you should start your own publishing company. ;)

Fire Storm> It sounds to me like your former workplace is populated with the most heinous arses that this planet has to offer. I'm glad you got out of there while you could. <<Ya know, maybe Hon just likes Chewie to be a little rough with him!>> You're aware that both Han and Chewie are happily married? <<Phantasmagoria: Yet another game I picked up at a computer show yet never played.>> You're missing out, friend; scenes of the stuffing machine in use will be forever etched in my memory. >:)

Jackson> <<Thanatos slices Castaway in half with a scyth in "The Reaper Pentad," and Azariel blows his brains out of his head by jamming the barrel of a turbolaser cannon down his throat and pulling the trigger, afterwards commenting "Such a shame, really, staining such a nice chair with this vermin's brains.">> I trust these fics are at the GFW archive? :) :) :)

Theresa> <<The first person who says one word about the color test gets to hear me sing "The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round" fifty times.>> Don't make me break out my kazoo and armpit flatulence rendition of the Smurfs theme. 8P j/k <<You peeked didn't you.>> Of course I did! I'm evil! (And morbidly curious.) Now all I need is an animated GIF tool and a few more comissions, and I can conduct the Fanfic Characters Dance!!! BEWARE! BEWARE! THE END OF ALL THINGS IS AT HAND! MUHAHAHAHHAAAAA! [Teri: "You're possessed again aren't you. Anoth! Break out the holy water!"] <<Evil website more insidous than Wheels song. Teddy bears picnic.>> I actually kind of like that song. It sounds evil somehow. Very dark and weird. Hehehe.

SJ> <> Eh? That sounds hideous! My sincerest condolences. <shudder> <<Hey!!! Congratulations, you now know the inner workings of the minds of men. Viva la porn!!!>> Speak for yourself; there's no sex in *my* violence. Muhahahaha. <<haven't you ever enjoyed the feel of leather on your skin?>> Does a leather jacket count? ^_^ <<Don't you enjoy a little hot wax in areas of which we dare not speak?>> Depends on whose. Oh Mr. Disconnect...<readies Mr. Thingy's hot wax dispenser> <<Don't you enjoy a good flogging now and then?>> Depends on which side of the whip I'm on, and whether my victim is willing--it's so much more fun when they're not. Mr. Disconnect knows this firsthand. <hehehe>

Robby> <<Who here's gonna make the dancing gargs website to the show's theme music?>> Not even I am that twisted...

SOROW> <<my ex-boyfriend is beginning to treat me like crap and seems to think that he was the only guy I could ever get or will get. That son of a *****! And now he still thinks he's going to be my escort next year! How do I tell that bug that another guy likes me so my ex will just have to flick off?>> This guy sounds like a royal idiot. I suggest...well, tell him that another guy likes you so he'll just have to flick off. <g>

Mary> Ah, another happy CR couple. ^_^

Kaioto> <<Something spilled out of my head at work today. After I put the brain back in and tightened the zipper on the back of my head, I had to clean up the mess.>> A zipper?! Get with the times, lad! My cranial cavity is sealed with a dual-phase vacuum lock, reinforced with a cascading rotor cuff. There's a safety airlock so twisted creativity spawn can inflict themselves upon the world without having to slog through the opening procedure for the main egress passage. Ah, the marvels of modern technology. ^_^

Green Baron> <<My Monday Night Class will be Intro to Psychology (that should complete most of my Adjunct courses, my Core was filled over the summer) and Tuesday night will feature Basic Marketing. Wish me luck, friends.>> You'll need it. :) <> Ah, the classics are always the best. Although I prefer a chainsaw for that purpose.

Whoever wanted to know where Dash Rendar's ship was in the Star Wars Special Edition trilogy (I forgot! Eek!)> It can be seen leaving Mos Eisley just as Luke's landspeeder is entering the city. I guess in one of the aerial shots.

**RESUME HORRIBLE GHASTLY REVOLTING DEATH! This one will offend a few people. Break out the barf bags.**

[Of a moment, Mr. Disconnect finds himself in a dark, strange forest. He knows that if he doesn't make it to civilization soon, he's in for a good deal of suffering. He picks a direction and runs--and, after less than a minute, feels the sting of the Purple Ranger's whip. Somehow the Dark Ranger had gotten behind him without him knowing. The evil warrior produces a crystal dagger from nowhere and slashes DC a few times, then beats him up for a few minutes, before letting him go. DC runs some more, as best he can, but freezes in fear when he encounters stick pentagrams hanging in the trees. A bestial howl rends the night air...and, while DC is standing there whimpering, the Red, Green, and Blue Rangers teleport in, surrounding him. Green pushes him down and cuts off his feet, Blue cuts out his tongue, and Red sodomizes him with what looks like a machete on the end of a staff, then rips out some of his intestines, before the three of them vanish. DC is now reduced to crawling on the ground, his entrails trailing behind him, leaving a slick of blood as he moves--and, suddenly, he sees the end of the forest! He crawls as fast as he can...before a sudden fog obscures the exit to this harrowing, a fog from which the Brown and Jade Rangers emerge like something out of a nightmare. Brown: "It's not going to be that easy, lad." With that, he draws what looks like twin daggers and plunges them into DC's eye sockets, after which Jade takes out her katana and slashes open DC's torso with it, then they both hang Mr. Disconnect from one of the numerous trees by his already-exposed intestines.]

**END!**
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 03:05:15 AM
IP: tnt-1-46-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

****NO RP TONIGHT****

Sorry I haven't been hear, I was kidnapped and sent on a family vacation and it was pretty fun. However I won't be posting much this week because classes just started and I have to figure get use to my new schedule and I have to go to my grandmother funeral. :(

Fluer-That's great news that your car is fixed and thank you for the song that is now stuck in my head.

Christine- they rejected you?! A Curse on them!

Well see ya later!

The colors are tested in the...AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 02:08:41 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

SOROW> Your ex sounds like a major jerk. I guess this boy must be decent if he invites you to meet him at a church, unless he plans to convert you.

Speaking of exes, I ran into mine at work today,a nd she talked to me and all. I thought she didn't want to speak to me. I realize that the relationship was flawed and it is better we never date again, but I do miss kissing her :/
Green Baron
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:46:49 AM
IP: 98aabfb9.ipt.aol.com

**enters the room again, switching out the candles**

Okay, now I'm caught up.

Incidentally, if I seem maudlin this evening, chalk it up to bitter loneliness and Kris Kristofferson singing "Help Me Make it Through the Night" on Leno. **sighs briefly, glancing at the candle, then continues**

Christine: Well ... that's mainly the reason why I suggested each of us handle only our own characters' attacks. That and each of us has the best handle on how to write our own characters ... egos only add to the mix to make it even *more* interesting. :)

Stephen: You're gonna torture me with that, ain't ya? ;)
Seriously, though, if ya make it to the deadline, I look forward to it. Heck, even if ya don't post it anyway and I'll link it up. :)

Airwalker: I didn't keep track of TMNT, mainly because I was too mad about "Freak Force" being cancelled ... and I *really* liked that book!

Jewel: Hmm ... I recall a magazine article (I believe it was Premiere magazine) involving two normal film reporters paying a visit to the Adult Video News awards. While the article itself was hilarious, the funniest bit was when they suggested a ... rather radical treatment for sex offenders.
**POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE MATERIAL AHEAD**
Basically, their suggestion was to sentence sex offenders to sit in a darkened room for one full month, empty except for a TV set playing 24-hour hardcore porn. The logic behind this? There would be so much sex overload that the offender would probably never have another sexual impulse for the rest of his life ... a phenomenon that the two article writers experienced after only seven days at the AVN awards.
**END POTENTIALLY OFFENSIVE MATERIAL**
Anyhoo, that research paper you were talking about reminded me of that, I thought I'd share. :)

Night Walker: 'Tis good that ye have found your identity, lad. :)

Delphi: Maybe so, but it's only common sense that you don't use your genitalia to stop a chainsaw blade!! I mean, how stupid does someone have to be?
**shudder** I'm picturing it in my mind now, unfortunately ... guy cuttin' down a tree, minding his own business ... turns of the saw, chain's still going ... before he realizes it he presses the blade against his crotch to stop it and watches half his genitalia go flying across the yard!

**groans, shudders, then continues**

Mary: That doesn't happen to be the Dags that occasionally posts to the room, is it? Whoever it is, I'm happy for ye.

**sighs shakily, gazing up at the candle again, then continues**

SOROW: Simple enough solution to your problem ... ignore 'im. And if he won't let you ignore him, tell 'im to stay the hell away from ye. Something similar to the advice I gave to Ravyn **sigh** shortly after her breakup last year ... he wouldn't leave her alone even after he'd taken up with someone else, so she basically gave him the "you had your chance and blew it, bucko" speech.

**sighs again, looking up at the candle's flame**

I'm so lonely ... and so damned worried ...

**curls up in a ball, keeping his eyes firmly on the candle and whimpering**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:41:19 AM
IP: modem66.i-is.com

I'm back, boys and girls, now on to posting.

Zath and Warpmind> Click now. I forgot to capitalze the jpg. file before. This picture is a different one from the pic I showed of Attila a few months ago. He is a cute little tyrant, isn't he?

Starsinger> Attila read teh story and then told me, "And don't forget it boy!"

BTW, your site makes me want to do a dancing hamster page where Attila eats the hamsters :)

I had voicemail when I lived in the dorms. It was better than an answering machine, but a nuisance.

SOROW> Congratulations on the guy. I hope he appreciates a sweet, quiet, naughty girl like you :) We can still flirt, right :)

Jewel> I never got yoru e-mail. I hope Dis isn't giving you trouble. If it is, I'll lend you the rod :)

Pursell's Dido and Aeneas reminded me of the next fanfic I'll be reading of yours, showing how far behind I am :)

<>
Even worse than Matthew Watson and Brooklyn, without Mara's touch-up :)

Irina> Welcome to the insnaity, though you may already be use to that :) ::hugs Jewel:: I do find your analysis of tragedy very good and I take it you're a Lit Major, or you really love it. BTW, have you ever read a sci-fi cult classic called A Canticle for Leibowitz?

Nihilism vs Tragedy> I imagine you'd know my view, since Ravenloft: Masque of the Red Death ahs much more of an appeal to me than Call of Cthuhulu, though Cthuhulu sounds interesting, since I love that time period, as you can tell by what my proposed Green Baron outfit will be.

TGS Dream> I had a dream I was part of an Unseelie bounty hunter team, and my next target was Madoc (this was weeks before Darkest Hour), but I then got fired from my job at the borkerage I used to work for, which prompted me to wake up.

Chirstine><<Book news > rejected again; four down and moving on to the next hopeful for poor Black Roses.
This is going to be another example of taking longer to find an agent than it took to write the damn
book ... >>
Their loss. May their kids be sent to Michael Jackson's daycare center as punishment :)

Night Walker> Well, I take it you decided. I was hoingt o suggest Travelin' Man, myself. As for music, I like Disco and eighties, plus some older stuff, much older. As for anything recent, I like Billy Joel, but I'm not too into anything recent. I am also fond of Wagner, Brahms, Liszt, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, and Renaissance Counterpoint like the motet style, plus I liek Latin chanting, and I plan to learn some, expecially one devoted to Mary. I also like Classical music because I could get the Brandenburg Concertos for only eight dollars.

Adrienne> <<Maul and Obi-Wan are a *lovely* couple!>> Uh! I see Barney Frank and Bob Barr as a loving couple, before I could see Obi-Wana nd Drath Maul. Ask Jewel who they are if you need a reference check :)

Another personal note>I was watching Larry King Live and Dr. Toni Grant was asked where a woman can find the perfect man. Here is her response:

They are everywhere, but many women do not notice them, becasue they are often quiet, boring, predictable, depnedable, and they soemtimes wear polyester.

YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!

OK, bye bye!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:36:42 AM
IP: 98aabfb9.ipt.aol.com

*glances down at Green Baron's post* hm ... speek of the devil ...
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:00:31 AM
IP: 1cust227.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Future note to self- Midi's don't transfer through Geocities... I'll try again tommarrow maybe. "We will rock you" does not want to co-operate!

Robby the CR DJ
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:53:22 PM
IP: spider-to043.proxy.aol.com

RP WARNING!!! (This takes place after the defeat, so it shoudl be considered taking place a few weeks ago.)
**Amidst the wreckage of the World Devestator sit Wilek and Sevarius Jr., but a few feet away is a flaming piece of wreckage, and a solitary figure walks through in a style similar to Connor MacLeod in Highlander II. As the figure gets colser, it is OJ Simpson, with a knife held high. It appears he survived the explosion, but he is too late to help, for the fight is over.

On another side, Tuxedo Bob Dole appears next to SJ.
"Bob Dole, I can never thank you enough for saving me."
"Bob Dole's gotta do what Bob Dole's gotta do, son. The scouts told me you needed some help as Doug plans to go to Akron. They are going on a quest to kill the remaining male Kennedy's since John John's death has marked the end of all decent Kennedys and it's time to end this dynasty of worthless ultra-liberal coke snorters once and for all. Bob Dole also has a new feature for his laser pen. You put viagra in teh battery pack and teh alser beams are far more deadly and go longer without a refill. Ever since I made that donation to John McCain's campaign, Liddy told me I'd need new uses for viagra...."
"That's quite enough information, Bob," SJ says as he tries to keep form learning about Bob and Liddy's sex life, "you can join us on the Avatar of Gannon, and we'll see if OJ wants to help us. He's quite handy with a knife."

As OJ approaches, he greets SJ, Wilek, and Bob Dole.
"Do you wish to help us in this mission, OJ?" asks Wilek.
"I wish I could, but after seeing teh devestation, I must go to Disney World to search for the real killer. Then, I will take my quest to the finest golfing areas in the world, all on Reverend Attila's Citibank Visa."
All four laugh at the thought of Attila's reaction when he gets his bill. As OJ walks off into the sunset, the three give him the standard Bob Dole thumbs up.**
END RP!!

Doug> $I hope you like the continuity$

Note to all concerned.

I have not been able to post for a while, but for a good reason. I am working again and I enjoy working. I can't wiat for payday. Last week, I have been helping Law students find their books at Loyola University. This week, I will be loading books on shelves and helping all the other students get their books for the upcoming semester, which starts next Monday. In more good news, I will have two night classes, which are easier than day classes, especially sinc emost students have full time jobs and families. Lucky me, huh :)

I have a Constitutional Law class on Monday which requires ten books, but all good reading, I hope. Unfortunately, none of the books were written by Ann Coulter.

On Tuesdays and Thursdays during the day, I will have Management Communications, Financial Institutions, and Intermediate Macroeconomics. My Monday Night Class will be Intro to Psychology (that should complete most of my Adjunct courses, my Core was filled over the summer) and Tuesday night will feature Basic Marketing. Wish me luck, friends.

I now return you to your regularly schedule CRing and I will be doing some more posting very soon (like hopfully within the hour), or I will sodomize Dis Connect with a rusty iron rod.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:50:38 PM
IP: 98cd2332.ipt.aol.com

Grr, lets try that again.
Robby
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:43:57 PM
IP: spider-to043.proxy.aol.com

Just cause I'm in the mood for it after that "We are the Champions" number, here's "We Will Rock You" just for the heck of it.

"Buddy make a big noise
Gonna be a big man someday!
Got blood on your face, ya big disgrace
And you're draggin' that can all over the place.
Singin' We will, we will rock you!
WE WILL WE WILL ROCK YOU!"

Dang, must be sports season. Adrenaline is pumping for no apparent reason...
Robby the CR DJ
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:40:16 PM
IP: spider-to043.proxy.aol.com

**RP here**
The mountain air was cold on Kaioto's brow. He unfolded his legs slowly, dusting the snow flakes off of his pants. Everything was moving so slowly, dragging, like when one's muscles are pushed to the limit. He was moving slow even for before his training. It was always a disturbing sensation.
The numbness in his body slowly began to drain away as he rolled to one side and pushed himself up onto his knees. The night sky was clear and crisp, allowing him a fair view of the moon and stars.
It had been more days than he'd anticipated.
A small knot of fear gripped at his stomach for a moment, and he cast a hasty glance over his shoulder. With a relieved sigh, he rose back to his feet for the first time in a fortnight. The village, the temple, they remained standing.
*Pause RP*

Hm � You know, Saturday my parents forgot to follow my instructions and locked me out of my house � I had to use my intimate knowledge of my home to brake in without waking up anyone. The final result had me pillaging my grandfathers workshop for thick copper wiring, making a ball out of an end, fitting it in to the runner of a sliding-chain latch, and bending the wire off the wall behind the stove while closing the door almost all the way so the chain had enough slack too � presto, be pushed to the release area of the runner and pop off, allowing me access.
What a fun thing to do, half passed out at 2AM.

Nightwalker: A nice selection of name and color. The pic is good too. I hope you enjoy our home here. Welcome to our Clan. Trust me, you are welcomed here. Don't get the wrong idea if not everyone responds to you all the time, there are a lot of people in this room and responding to everyone is an exercise in insanity, though in this asylum we do try.

Something spilled out of my head at work today. After I put the brain back in and tightened the zipper on the back of my head, I had to clean up the mess. Unfortunately some was just too tough to deal with, and manifested into a fic-bit.

*fic-bit*
"Matt Bluestone was actually a bit too surprise to react more than reflexively. Years of badgering reporters, beligerant perps, and abrupt superiors had left him totally unprepared for a pseudo-normal visitor who actually respected his request. What was more, it had been a lame excuse.
With a rustle of the blinds and a few quick strides, Elisa made her entrance, coffee in hand. Her eyes sized his state and the piece of paper in his hand. "What you got there, partner?" she inquired.
Matt shook himself out of his confusion and opened his fist. "Nothing, just an E-Mail address from some guy I've never -." Matt stopped abruptly as he scanner the writing. His eyes widened and he suddenly bolted to the door. "Wait!"
Elisa sipped her coffee and watched her oft-excentric partner race after someone who undoubtedly was a suspect in the great conspiracy of the Illuminati. She glanced absently at the address on the discarded scrap of paper. Seeker@Veritas.net
*end fic bit*

SJ: I really hope the casting continues to work out well. I've got a lot of hope pinned on that movie now thanks to you. ;)

Hm �. Where is the Green Baron? I need someone to help me put up the new pics from Lexy and I in Wisconsin.

David G: How's the Goth book coming?

Hm � yeah, I'd feel better hearing from JackaL again �

*continue RP*
He could sense it with more than his eyes, however. There was a harmony that was lacking for a long time, a sense of peace that flowed from one end of the Earth to the other. The planet, and its people, had survived.
Like a man learning to walk again without crutches, Kaioto stumbled down the narrow path towards the village, breathing deeply the fresh Himalayan air. There were odd notes and eddies in the Song as he listened to the Earthbeat. The hard dissonant chords that had marked two weeks ago were gone, but now new splinters were scattered about the Celestial Pattern. The stress on the fabric of the dimension had been great, but it had held. ~ We ~ had held, he noted mentally, his head still pounding from the labors. We had held, indeed, but the Vales had not done nearly as well.
Even now, he could feel the tides of Eternal powers waxing, more influence pouring in through gaps in the barricades against the Outer and Nether Realms. More balancing force was being introduced from the Higher Planes, as well.
When he reached the base of the cliff-side stairway, he turned to the elder monk who waited with his things. He knew they intended for him to leave now. He stated what they both already knew for the sake of putting it to voice, "This Realm has gone from being in a nutcracker to being inside a pressure cooker."
"Eloquently put, my son," was all the monk would say before turning back to the village, leaving the warrior to make his own way.
He couldn't go back, not until it was done. He sighed and made a rueful smile. Completion was amazingly illusive in his life and occupation. With a deep breath, Kaioto turned his back on the quiet village who's name translated to "Planet's Heartbeat," likely never to return. His job as a artery was finished, and it left him feeling somewhat deprived. For a few weeks that passed like days, he'd possessed a single, perfect purpose to the Body. His place in life would never be so clear again.
He tightened his boots, hefted his pack, and made his way down from the mountains, alone.
*end*

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:38:30 PM
IP: 1cust227.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Forgot... my new e-mail address is jim.abadie@prodigy.net I have to tell my dad to get his name off there. It looks sooo gay!
SOROW
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:33:44 PM
IP: dll2b102-06.splitrock.net

NNNOOO!!!!!!! I have a major problem! You all remember the guy I mentioned in the last post that I like (and who I think likes me back)? Well, he just invited me to a church get together this Wednesday! This is bad, you ask? Well....... my ex-boyfriend is beginning to treat me like crap and seems to think that he was the only guy I could ever get or will get. That son of a *****! And now he still thinks he's going to be my escort next year! How do I tell that bug that another guy likes me so my ex will just have to flick off? What a prick!

Mary> Then Dags is a lucky guy :)

night walker> I'm glad you like your new name! I'll change it on my list of TGS CR Regulars for ya :)
SOROW
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:29:47 PM
IP: dll2b102-06.splitrock.net

Well, it's a slow night, so I'll waste some more space...

Robby: I saw that episode of Aeon Flux! In fact, come to think of it, I've seen just about all episodes of Aeon Flux. Now damnit, that was quality programming. A Nymphomaniac assassin with a taste for bondage attire fighting the....good? evil? probably amoral...fight against the ultra-cool villain Trevor Goodchild. Every episode was surrealistic and quite violent....as well as erotic. It's a shame that MTV spends most of it's time showing endless footage of that talking head Carson Daly, or the Backstreet Boyz, or N*Sync, instead of showing good 'toons' like Aeon Flux anymore. Or "The Maxx" for that matter. Or "The Head". I miss "Liquid Television".....*sigh* It's a Ricky Martin world folks. And we must live in it.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:26:16 PM
IP: 207-172-87-237.s237.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Jewel: Word format, please.
Worf/Data: Realistic? Na... I was just being silly.

Night Walker: Hiya! See ya chose that name, eh?

Theresa:<<You peeked didn't you.>>
Well, you know I had to!

Robby: Queen: YES! My FAVORITE band.

OH! Speaking of which...
I was watching Aliens and noticed somthing:
Favorite movie villans
1. The Queen
2. The Queen
Favorite Band.
Queen

Theresa: NOOOOO! I explored that link. IT IS HELL! AHHHH!!!!!
Thanks for the link!

<PRAISE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:18:05 PM
IP: t1-26.visitus.net

Hmm, semi-slow day today...

My mentorship thingie- Today I met with Ben Dunn again, (every Monday, cool!)and today he actually started to teach me stuff. And I also got an early copy of the first issue of Legacy... Cool stuff.

Christine- I still don't get the Sevarius joke.

Warpmind- Clickie on my name for the song you requested. This is one of the coolest versions of the song I've found. AH, I love being CR DJ...

"We are the champions-my friends...
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions
Of the World..."

Great song, one of Queen's best.

Jenna- DOn't worry about it, just my bad sense of humor in action...

Night Walker- Same deal, bad sense of humor here.

Also, you're thinking of the Archie version of the Turtle comics, of which I have a complete 72 issue run... (Well, 78 if you count the mini-series... And lots more if you count the spin offs)... But I have a full run. Its neat. I need to reread those issues some time.

Jason- RP's are generally done as part of a post, not AS the post. There's a difference. And round robins ARE a different kind of thing entirely...

Firestorm- Actually in the cartoon, Robotnick was killed. That escape pod belonged to the Freedom Fighters. And yes,Robotnick was totally killed in the comic. And they recently brought him back... In Sonic Adventure format.

Airwalker- That kinda stuff is exactly why I did not like the Image take on the turtles. besides the horrible art, (Better than I can do, granted, but still horrible) the entire storylines consisted of MANGLING the characters to make them look different in black and white. Raph losing an eye I didn't mind, both Mirage and Archie comics had that happen... But the rest, ick...

Starsinger- Evil website indeed. Who here's gonna make the dancing gargs website to the show's theme music?

SJ- That particular question comes up in an episode of Aeon Flux as well...

Also, you're lucky. You're coming into Dragonball just as new episodes are about to start up. You'll get to see the Frieza battle immediatley instead of waiting 2 years...

**RP HERE**

Aboard the Dark Star Two, the evil villain lets his mechanical eyes glow as he has decided what his new mission will be.
"I *WILL* catch 'em all. Gotta catch 'em all, Pokemon..." Then he gives off a sinister laugh like from the hampster dance, and the scene fades away as he looks at a screen monitor aboard the Dark Star, and spies someone with pokemon...
Robby
Monday, August 23, 1999 10:58:13 PM
IP: spider-to062.proxy.aol.com

I have three things to say:

1)Today is my parents' 23rd wedding anniversy.

2) I got locked out of the house for two hours while my parents and sister were gone.

3)I have feelings for a sweet guy named Dags. :))))
Mary Flanders
Monday, August 23, 1999 10:47:33 PM
IP: stk-ts4-h1-21-161.ispmodems.net

Hi gang. This is strictly a message for Todd. Hopefully he'll see it.

Have you tried web-based mail? Like Hotmail? You can get signed up in under half an hour.
Entity - [cotleur@ix.netcom.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 10:22:03 PM
IP: ely-oh7-83.ix.netcom.com

Alright here I am,new name ,new color , same pic and attitude.

new name-First I would like to say that I looked back and saw that 4 people thought wanderer was better, and 4 people thought night walker was better. So to break the tie I thought to myself"which one would better fit the garg-image.Night walker it is. Although it sounds more distant to traveler than night walker they all mean the same thing[according to the Roberts thesaurus].Thanx , all of you , I think more people replied to this than all of the other posts that I've written , exept for my first one which alot of you humbly greeted this lost soul[hhhmm, oh well too late for a name change now].Anyway , Wanderer to me sounds like I am still searching for my purpose, which I currently am. But as someone before ,I should choose a name that fits what I want to become. Night walker to me means that I've already found my purpose in life and am now going to find ways to live that purpose.
New color-sorry about all of the color tests , it wasts posting space, I know I'll get scolded for this at least once.But even the name of my color fits into this universe that I am trying to create. It's a nice color called Dusk Blue.Everything is falling into place , at least in this .

Favorite artists-wow , I'm surprised at how many of you said that you knew some of my favorite groups,most of my best friends don't even know about any of them.Anyway , I shouldn't be surprised ,I'm talking to people the world over.
Cristine-you're not old, I just don't like to stick to the mainstream.I like it when no-one knows what I'm talking about[although sometimes it does get boring].

Robby-<<Nope I've been completly ignoring your posts. thats why I know that you're asking if we've been paying attention>>In what were you talking when you said this? Was this meant as you being sarcastic or were you just trying to say that I shouldn't say anything like this?If you meant it in a sarcastic way I'm sorry,I'll watch what I say in the future. If not well,I know I'm a little hard on myself and I'm sorry to have wasted your time rambling.
Everyone-thanks , I've lived the feeling of not belonging anywere ,and thats why I asked. And I've been ignored out of chat rooms before. Yahoo chat room last year, I was trying to tell some guy that said that he had no reason for living that he shouldn't say that and that he should look on to the good things that he had in life.He ended up leaving the chat room after saying that I had no buisness talking to him and that I didn't know him, then everyone ignored me and I haven't been back there since.

TMNT-"What did you say",at this moment Jeremy's mind tries to look into it's deepest , darkest trenches. The abbreviated words sink in and he realizes what TMNT means.Jeremy thrusts himself from the $10 desk and runs/stumbles to the closet. He pulls out the box that he hasn't even thought of looking in ever since he lived in California. He looks through all of his comics, throwing Sonic the Hedgehog, Godzilla,and the only MYST comic he ever found ,in random piles in his still messy room. And , at the bottom of the box there he finds what he was looking for.But a tear falls from his eye when he realizes the awful truth."NOOOOOOOO!!!! he screams , and goes back to the computer when he realizes that his cheap 3RD person narritive isn't effective.
Sorry about that , yes I found out that out of all of my TMNT comics [50 in all] I now only have 4 . Doesn't tat make you want to cry. They were from that Eastman and Laiards series [I don't know what you guys refer to them as].Out of almost a complete series[from what I could find] I am now reduced to the Blackhole trilogy [all three] and issue #8.Pitiful eh.

Thanx all of you , I truly feel exepted.Anyway this is not my last post for the night , I'll come back later, when everyone is asleep.

And is this a yes or no to whether or not I should talk of bjork.I feel a quote coming on but I'll hold off on that for a bit.
Bye now.
night walker - [Goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:43:33 PM
IP: proxy-393.public.rwc.webtv.net

***BEGIN RP****
"Um...Kari?" SJ asked nervously.
"What?"
"Um....before we go see Wilek....There's something I have to tell you. Something I wanted you to know when you...whey you got better."
"What is it?"
"It's....it's about your brother."
"Jim? What? What is it?"
"He....he was coming to see you. He heard that you were hurt, and he tried to come here to be with you."
"Wait, wait a minute--what do you mean, 'tried'? What are you trying to tell me?"
"Kari..." SJ breathed in deeply. "He....he never made it here, Kari. It....it looks as if there was some kind of accident. I....I think your brother's dead."
****END RP***

Ugh....school restarts for me tomorrow, 8 a.m. sharp. God I hate early morning classes. I wouldn't be so depressed if I hadn't only had about 1 month of summer break instead of the usual 3 and a half.....oh well.

Ordell, Argent, and most of all, Robby: Thanks to all you guys for giving me all the great DBZ info. I am currently trying to discipline myself to watch every episode I can find--it's a fun show, even if most of it is nothing but one big, long fight scene (which isn't necessarily a bad thing ;) But you guys have given me some great help. Where I was once blind, now I see. Thanks guys! :)

little traveler: Hey, it's not that we don't notice you. We enjoy having you around, and you certainly have a place here! For the record, I too enjoy Garbage, Prodigy, Crystal Method, and Korn. Some of my other favorites are Nine Inch Nails, Powerman 5000, Marilyn Manson, Live, Bush, Gravity Kills, Tori Amos, Insane Clown Posse, Type O Negative, and Stabbing Westward....I'm somewhat more into the dark spectrum of music. Perhaps JackaL can appreciate my tastes.

By the way, are you out there, JackaL? Drop us a line, we're worried about you, buddy.

***ENTERTAINMENT NEWS****
Spider-Man Movie News: Well, the good news is that Leo Dicaprio, long rumored to be in the lead for the role of Spidey/Peter Parker, is NOT being considered for the role now. Apperently, the script calls for a young Parker, in his late teens. I'm personally hoping for an unknown, instead of them casting one of those scmucks from Dawson's Creek or Felicity, or any other pretty boy MTV has a hard-on for.

Lord of the Rings news: It looks as if genre favorite (and IMO, one of the masters of horror movies) Christopher Lee is in final negotiations to play the treachorous villain Saruman. I'm actually very excited about this; Lee was once in the running to play Gandalf, but I feel a man of his abilities is better suited as the powerful Saruman. Can't you just see him in a battle of wills against Ian's Gandalf? This movie is getting better and better!
****END ENTERTAINMENT NEWS****

Cloud and Seph Slash: Hmm.....if Cloud's a clone, is this really homosexual incest, or simply self-masturbation? ;-p

Jewel: <> Hey!!! Congratulations, you now know the inner workings of the minds of men. Viva la porn!!!
BTW, when will people leave that poor Marquis alone? So the dude was into some kinky stuff. Tell me the truth--haven't you ever enjoyed the feel of leather on your skin? Don't you enjoy a little hot wax in areas of which we dare not speak? Don't you enjoy a good flogging now and then? What? Why are you all looking at me like that? And why the hell is my tongue in my cheek?
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:35:03 PM
IP: 207-172-87-237.s237.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Okay... everything is packed for my exodus to Hood College tomorrow. Except, of course, for the computer that I'm typing away at right now.

Since a friend who came early informed me that the Hood IT department is really dragging their behinds with activating network drops, I may be kept away longer than I'd expected. Trekking down to the 24 hour labs just isn't the same, especially since the security software on those machines likes to do stupid things like consider sending Hotmail a security risk.

So until I get completely set up, this is good bye for now. Responses will finish this post.

Lil> Hang in there! It does get better... and get worse... and get better again... and get worse again... and get better again... oh, you get the idea. :)

Spike> FINALLY read the Deathmatch fanfic... BWA HA HA! Oh my Lord... Mom just ran up to see if I was okay, I was laughing so hard and so loud... *sigh* Thank you, I needed that.

Starsinger> **looks innocent** Color test? What color test? (I probably won't be here to hear it...) And I didn't peek; I know better after Dave pulled something similar on me.

Christine> Rejected again? What the? Oh, man...

Jason> I've got to agree with Aris on this one; permission is a must. And you're going to hate me for saying this... but it's spelled Ares, not Aries.

ST slash: The most hideous DS9 slash (well, part of it counted as slash... the authors couldn't decide), or any ST slash, I've laid eyes on is "Stolen Memories," a long, pointless piece of crap I helped MiST. It only counts as DS9, because apparently it involved a young Bashir in an alien harem... I don't recall why, I sort of blocked that out.

Okay, I'm done. Hope to see you all in here again soon.
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:29:59 PM
IP: pm3-1-ppp36.iximd.com

Evil website more insidous than Wheels song. Teddy bears picnic. Ohhhh!!! ��shudder��

Auntie Starsinger
The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round. 'Round and 'round. 'Round and 'round. The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round all through the comment room. :�
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:21:16 PM
IP: proxy-333.public.rwc.webtv.net

Delphi> somehow, reading a post about how tired you are, then a comment about you still offering to proofread for me gives me mixed feelings. :)

You've spurred me to action, though. I now make this vow. Freelance 3 will be finished this week, before Friday night. Then it will go to my charming, generous, wonderful proofreader, and to my beta-reader (Denis) who will have arleady read most of it because he asks for the updated version every time we talk.

For anyone interested, that means it will probably be up by NEXT friday. Episode 4 shouldn't take anywhere near that long, because I've already written most of it.

After that, I may slow down for a while because I'm thinking about doing the first major revision on my novel. Its been 2 years since I finished it now. I think I can be objective about it.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:19:19 PM
IP: pppa31-fortworthb20-4r663.saturn.bbn.com

I PEEKED and well what was left of my sanity is gone
um oh did every one get the broken halo info i posted sunday? oh and we are still waiting for the wheels on the bus song auntie:)
ironwolf
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:14:56 PM
IP: host-209-215-8-208.cha.bellsouth.net

Actually that's Lighthouse in the Sea of Time.

Do not access. Evil website located. Repeat: Do not access.

Starsinger
You peeked didn't you.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:08:00 PM
IP: proxy-333.public.rwc.webtv.net

Finella- She was duped into helping kill the king by Constantine. (No I can't remember the king's name. Kenneth??) She and Mary (Tom's mother) took the Grimoram to safty Avalon I
Fleance- Banquo's female half. Worked for MacBeth. Pendragon episode of the Avalon tour also Lighthouse at the end of Time, and Journey maybe a couple of more.
Sora-female dressed in pink I believe Bushido
Tea- female werepanther Mark of the Panther
Mary-Tom's mother Avalon I

Starsinger

Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:50:37 PM
IP: proxy-333.public.rwc.webtv.net

goodevening everyone
Christine>>rooting for that book of yours to get accepted
Firestorm>>it's tuff working around others who have no desire to preform a job well, drives me nuts, coarse that is probably due to my dad harping on me as a kid--"if your gonna do a job, then you may as well do it right the first time" As a result, it drives me nuts working around others who just don't care about the kind of job they do.
Coyote the Bando>>Don't you just know it, most ppl are to much in a rush to even read directs, or just feel like they already know everything they need.

gosh have I ever run out of energy, we started a paper route to get some xtra $ for summer fun next year so I am now getting up at 4:00am, and they decided at work today that the remodel is going too slowly, so now we are doing 9 hr days.
David G>>my offer still stands to proof your next ep, if you need it
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:39:56 PM
IP: 207.14.200.175

I just finished my first day in college....
Now I'm ready to die!!
anyway...
I want to do the Women in Gargoyles pic for myself but I don't remember these persons:
Finella
Fleance
Sora
Tea
Mary
Lil
Montr�al
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:35:09 PM
IP: dialup-994.hip.cam.org

yea i bring over my nephew and lockheed and him can listen
color test color test :)
ironwolf
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:35:08 PM
IP: host-209-215-8-208.cha.bellsouth.net

*Picks herself off the floor and sings*
The colours are tested in the CR, in the CR, in the CR.
The colours are tested in the CR, all night long.
*grins and waves to Night walker (I like!) and Auntie Starsinger, then skips out the CR*

Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Yes, I'm still in a stupid mood.
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:30:56 PM
IP: cow.cc.monash.edu.au

The first person who says one word about the color test gets to hear me sing "The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round" fifty times.

Auntie Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:16:46 PM
IP: proxy-333.public.rwc.webtv.net

Sorry for the typos. But you must admit, Lobo and his crew need to be on the receiving end of some lethal heat.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:12:08 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp60.fltg.net

color test
night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:11:09 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test
night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:09:54 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

I got a better idea, how about Lobo gets drilled by a sniper right btween the eyes as he is barking out orders.
Coyote 6.0 gets fried by an EMP, Jackel steps on an anti-tank mine, and Hyena get all but cut in two after eating a TOW missile. Not that is a satisfactory outcome.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:09:42 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp60.fltg.net

color test
night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:09:04 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test

night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:08:31 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test
night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:07:56 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test

night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:06:48 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test

night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:06:09 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

color test
night walker
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:05:18 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Jenna: Still getting flamed? Ungh! I don't get so much as a peep about the villains in my Fics total disregard for life (Thanatos slices Castaway in half with a scyth in "The Reaper Pentad," and Azariel blows his brains out of his head by jamming the barrel of a turbolaser cannon down his throat and pulling the trigger, afterwards commenting "Such a shame, really, staining such a nice chair with this vermin's brains.") Some people need to get a damn grip.

'Course, things are gonna get a LOT darker and grimmer after this next episode I'm writing now.... Probably gonna be more than a few R's........
Jackson
Monday, August 23, 1999 07:31:33 PM
IP: lex42.kih.net

Christine: I'm curious--what did people ask you to write? <g> You know, I once had someone ask me to write a "Christine Morgan-esque" type story. I told him I'd leave it to the master. ;)

Fire Storm - That paper was more research than I even want to think about. I read so much porn, history of porn, and theory on the place of porn in pre-19th century society it was insane--for two weeks, all I read was porn or stuff about porn. And at the time, I was in a school production of "Jesus Christ, Superstar," and the week before the papaer was due was the week of the performance, so we had 3-4 hour rehearsals every night...and there I was, reading "A History of Pornography: 1600-1800." There were more comments about that little blue book... <evil grin> But I was able to tramatize a few of the guys by showing them the woodcuts of three men in a menage-a-trois. But the downside to the joy of traumatizing *them* was traumatizing *myself* when I had read the Marquis de Sade's "Philosophy in the Bedroom."(<shudders in memory of the good marquis...I still can't believe what they did to Eugenie's mother...<shudder>...then realized it didn't really fit what the paper was turning into, so I traumatized myself twice for nothing (once for having to go into Borders and buy this huge book of the Marquis' writings, because the only copy was checked out, twice actually reading his work.) Anyway, if you want a copy of the thing, let me know what format--Word, WordPerfect, rtf, whatever.

ST slash: I saw one that was listed as being Worf/Data. I more or less went, "Hunnnnh?" over whatever the guy was thinking when he thought *that* would be a realistic pairing... I also came across a Picard/Data. Another "Hunnnnnnh?" one, methinks. But I have to say, I did read a Picard/Q one that actually, somehow, managed to work. And boy, was that surreal. Ditto with one that worked with Spock/Kirk. <g> But the results of that paper I mentioned came out when I read an "Uhura-Sulu-Chekov"...they fit characters in the Marquis de Sade, and I started reading a bunch of slash just imaging the paper I could get out of the parallels...

<snort> And I wonder why everyone I know says I'm going to go to grad school and end up a prof...

And, hoo, was there ever a real theme to *this* post. Sheesh...

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Monday, August 23, 1999 07:05:37 PM
IP: 207-172-75-91.s91.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

**CONTAINS SOME SPOILERS FOR IMAGE TMNT SERIES**

COYOTE - You wrote: [Horridus was in TMNT?? As Mike's girlfriend? What editorial *twit* came up with *that* idea?! (considering that they weren't even in the same friggin' *city* ... everybody knows that all of Erik Larsen's freak characters, including Horridus, are in Chicago!!!)]

Erik Larson is the editor of the Image TMNT comic. That's why Savage Dragon characters could appear so easily in the Image series. Personally I don't have anything against the idea. Even with all of Dragon characters being located in Chicago, it doesn't mean they have to stay in that one place all the time. Dragon travels around sometimes. I don't see why others can't or shouldn't. In fact, the only reason that I even picked up the issue of TMNT I have is because I saw Horridus on the cover.

And she wasn't a permanent figure. As far as I can tell from the one issue that I read (#21 in case your wondering) she came to where the Turtles are in search of her origins. They were fighting some sort of sentient Triceratops (I think they were from another planet) and since she sees herself as looking kind of dinosaur-like, she came searching for answers.

As for her being Michaelangelo's girlfriend, that's kind of an exageration on my part. That's how Donatello refered to her in the issue and she does have some feelings for Mikey but it doesn't look like they have any sort of official relationship.

Say do you happen to know if the last two issues of the Image series came out? Since I got 21 and the series is done at 23, I figure I might as well get the last two issues to find out how everything gets tied up. (My only knowledge of Turtle continuity comes from the movie and they really have done a lot of stuff in this series. I mean Raphael lost an eye, took over the Foot Clan and became the new Shredder. Leonardo lost his left hand and Donatello is a cyborg. The only one who hasn't seemed to change is Michaelangelo.)

**END OF SPOILERS FOR IMAGE TMNT SERIES**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, August 23, 1999 05:37:35 PM
IP: 42.new-york-26-27rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

I'm back all you friendly peopple. For now I'm just checking in to see what's been going on. Of course I just skim through everything instead of taking the time to read it......:P

Sarge. Some assembly required, batteries not included.
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 04:49:24 PM
IP: spider-wc011.proxy.aol.com

<>STUPID CO-WORKERS RANT WARNING!<>

Pistoff: Yeah, I had some stupid co-workers. Here are a few examples!
BMS3: Her job: to assist customers. All she did was stand by the front counter and ignore customers. She didn't know jack sh%$, and they could NOT fire her.
Coworker: DA-BIT%^. She was so friggin lazy, and she told me to do the simplest things for her. She would often call off and come in late, not really doing her job. She also started rumors about me and got a MANAGER to help her with the rumors, making the place an utter hell-hole for me to work in. (Those rumors are #7 on a 10 page grivence letter I am sending to the company headquarters)
Cashier: Besides being a royal bit%^, she asked me to bring in LM to talk to her (There were rumors about me, and she wanted to get me in trouble)She cussed out LM IN THE STORE, and a manager told her to leave. NOT the cashier, but LM!

And who gets in the most trouble? ME. Even the managers admit that I know the electronics section WAY better than anyone in the store, yet they made me not want to work there by getting me in trouble for being only 5 minutes late, and going to the bathroom when we aren't busy! If I EVER reccomeneded that a customer go to a different store for a part that we didn't carry, oh would I get chewed out!

Lousy friggin store.

SORROW, IRINA, EVERY ONE ELSE: Do NOT work at Office Depot! The managers are only out for themselves and crack down on the employees when corporate in coming for a visit (Which is monthly.)

<>END RANT!<>

IRINA: <<If I see ONE MORE fanfic where Sephiroth and Cloud get paired up in a homosexual relationship, I'm going to
scream.>>
Hmm... Guess I shouldn't post that fic, eh? <G>
<Just kidding. I HAD to!>

Christine: <Sevarius Clone Joke>
Awwww... MAN, that was bad! I liked it!

Traveler: Maybe I am biased, but I like Night Walker. And yes, you belong here. Why wouldn't you belong here? You don't flame, you don't yell, you are quite a civilized member of this CR.

Irina: Star Trek relationships: I GOT A ONE!
Worf/Data
Star Wars: Hmm... Ya know, maybe Hon just likes Chewie to be a little rough with him!

Phantasmagoria: Yet another game I picked up at a computer show yet never played.

Christine: Can you tell us some of your wierder//sicker requests?

Robby: Did they actually KILL Robotnik, or did he just leave? Last I saw, Robotnik was defeated and he retreated, leaving Sniveley(?), who showed his dark side and his desire to take over the world.
(OOPS. Sorry. I am talking about the cartoon series. The GOOD one, not that stupid comedy one.)

Adrienne: Tea? Who is that?

Jewel: <<(18th Century French Political Pornography, focusing on clerical sodomy>> Hmm... Sounds interesting. Lots of research, I take it. Any chance I can get a copy (Curiousity)

OH! Speaking of wierd stuff...
Last night I was at a barbeque at my grandmas and I brought up the fact that your average 100lb female teenager only has about 45lbs of usuable meat on her body. Eveyone looked at me kinda wierd. I wonder why! ;)

SORROW: Congratulations on the guy!
As far as e-mail, click my link for free e-mail.

Voicemail: A necessary evil. If you want to know two of the WROST voicemail systems, try Dish Network (#3), Compaq (#2) or Hewlet Packard (#1). NOTE: I have never called IBM, but I have some of thier 6" thick manuals.

<Looks back over his post>
Yow... I have NO idea whats with me today!

<KILLER-OF-ANIMALS:FIRST> PROCEED TO <Homeworld\\Desire>
Destroy human\\animals.
<ACKNOWLEDGE//SUBMIT>

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, August 23, 1999 03:58:35 PM
IP: t2-13.visitus.net

Jason> My personal opinion is that unless one could get clear and specific permission from a writer, one shouldn't use the characters. I hate to be a spoil-sport but I don't think it should be right to continue this round-robin story.

There are a number of writers around in this room, though whose permissions you might get. Christine Morgan, Spike, Coyote etc... Why not ask one of them, if you really want to do this?

By the way, Aries is the name of a horoscope sign. The character is spelled Ares, like the *god* Ares. I just hate seeing it mispelled.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Monday, August 23, 1999 03:36:52 PM
IP: athe530-i138.otenet.gr

I've noticed that a lot of people post role-playing things here. I've written a Gargoyles round-robin/ interactive story beginning. I've posted mentions about these before but this one I'm just posting here. Maybe people could continue it. It's a TGS/Athenaverse crossover. I tried to e-mail Ryan Stout to get permission but couldn't so I'm just going to put it up. It ignores the last story A Tale of Fate, Hate and the Phoenix Gate. Add if you want to.

"You failed to acquire the Sun Amulet but there are ohter means of healing me." Thailog outlined the Ultra-Pack's newest assignment.
******

Athena Maza-Aries awoke just seconds before her husband when the proximity alarms sounded in their penthouse at the top of the Athens Inc. building.

Daniel grabbed a powerful non-projectile weapon, while Athena grabbed her streetsweeper.

"What's happening, Gemini?" Athens Inc. had been virtually untouched by the Unseelie War and they weren't expecting Xanatos to be stupid enough to break the truce so soon after it ended with the losses he suffered.

"It's the Ultra-Pack. We're under heavy assault by them." They had stayed up to date on what they might face in the future though.

Coyote 6.0 blasted the roof they were on scattering them.

Lobo began barking out orders. "Coyote, you deal with Orpheus. Jackal, take Athena. Hyena, Cassandra and Eric. Wolf, take on Lazurus. Bull and I have Aries and Gemini.
******

Aries pulled out his battle armor's remote only to have it blasted to pieces by Lobo. Bull's wings were folded into the pack on his back and he was lunging and snapping at Gemini, the immortal clone of Demona. Wolf had pounced on Lazurus before he could bring his arm lasers to bear. Now they were in a test of strength. Coyote and Orpheus were exchanging enough fire power to level a city block. Athena was finding that a totally cybernetic Jackal was more difficult than dealing with a partially cybernetic one. She tossed her gun aside and leapt at him ready to tear him limb from limb.
Eric and Cassie combined to blast Hyena with a magical fireball but nothing happened.

Hyena grinned. "My body has a lot of iron in it. Magic doesn't effect iron."

Jason Barnett - [barnett@shentel.net]
Lebanon Church , VA, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 02:49:52 PM
IP: pm07a20.shentel.net

Greetings everyone... head cold is keeping me home today.

COYOTE - Well, you might be seeing Rosanna reacting to strange circumstances a lot sooner than you think... if I can get my submissions for Avalon Mists done in time. :)

As far as the four-way-writer's fic... hmmm, never tried that before, but I'm open to options. What would Spike and Christine say?

Got to go lie down for a bit... Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 01:12:49 PM
IP: m32.ieway.com

Book news > rejected again; four down and moving on to the next hopeful for poor Black Roses. This is going to be another example of taking longer to find an agent than it took to write the damn book ...

Coyote > while a four-way tag-team fic is a great idea, you know how bad I am at writing as part of a group! I am mean and vicious and hard to work with ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 01:01:02 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Longer post later.I'm still torn between these two names. By the time I come back I will have decided my name and checked out all of the colors [but I won't change my pic , I love it].
Question- can someone tell me were the coming attractions page with the Dean Devlin[may he burn] script review was. I put it in favorites but for some reason it was erased and I can"t find it.Thanx in advance.
traveler? - [goliath01]
hobart, IN, usa
Monday, August 23, 1999 12:39:16 PM
IP: proxy-413.public.paix.webtv.net

Aaron wanders in, wearing a KISS t-shirt under his coat.

*************Review w/spoilers for Detroit Rock City****
Everybody go see this movie. It's great. Sort of a happier Stand By Me. Plus, the movie is filled with scene-specific classic rock. Black Sab, BOC, Van Halen, Cheap Trick, AC/DC, a very young Joan Jett, and of course, Kiss. Aaron Bob says 4/5 skulls, check it out.
******************End sort-of review************************

For the record, I liked Street Fighter. Remember the scene where Van-Damme is out of weapons except his knife? He pulls his knife, gets into his stance, and his opponents run away. Van-Damme looks like "Yeah, I'm a bad@$$" and then the camera pulls back to show all the A.N. soldiers standing behind him.

Wilek>But everybody wants to get away from Janeway. Why should the Borg be different?

David G> Escaflone! Escaflone has cat-girls! (What can I say, I'm a sucker for cat-girls)

Warpmind>Mean Guns: Seen it, taped it, watched it too many times. I'm hoping to have Dee, Marcus, and Christopher Lambert's character show up in my fics eventually as Nightstone "Security Specialists."

Later.

Aaron wanders off, humming Motorhead's "Hellraiser"

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:03:35 AM
IP: ppp-71.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Coyote-- about Nihilism vs Tragedy-- I agree with you totally pal-- also Tragedy can be like a sacafice for something-- there is alot of Japanese stuff on that. My hubby and I just the other day finally finished the Playstation Tenchu- in which you play a ninja. The honorable hero ends up sacraficing himself for the priness. I thought that was very japanese, and I loved it. It touched me.

Speaking of games, I recently started playing Frankenstien: through the eyes of the monster-- starring jim Curry- gave me some great fanfic ideas for Thailog!!
jenna
Monday, August 23, 1999 11:00:36 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

**enters the room, switching out the candle (which managed to last two days ... it was a really big candle).**

**sigh** I hate working after a nice Sunday off ...

Jenna, re: nihilism vs. tragedy: Yes, I get it. Nihilism and tragedy are two completely different animals as far as I'm concerned ... in tragedy there's some hope, while with nihilism it's "oh, crap, the world sucks, I wanna die."

Indiana traveler (?): Go with Wanderer, that's the one I liked best.

Sarge, re: protecting works: If ye want to be really secure without having to pay postage, have the works posted in two different locations ... one of which being a non-human controlled one like GFW. (Part of the reason why I archive my works there, in addition to being a backup should Geocities go down, is to make sure it's documented that *I* created them, and the dates that the creations came from.)

Stephen: An interesting match ye have my girl Rosanna in there ... as I've been wonderin' myself how she'd react being around the adult Amber. :)
Tell ya what ... ifn's we can swing it, and once we have the results, howzabout having all four of us (you, me, Christine and Spike) write our own characters in the match, similar to the way me and Cyrway wrote the Kat/Samson match? Kind of a four-way tag team fic, y'know? :)

SJ: I would seriously doubt you'd have that kind of luck again. :)

Christine: Oh no, not you too!! **groans and doubles over**

Airwalker: Horridus was in TMNT?? As Mike's girlfriend? What editorial *twit* came up with *that* idea?! (considering that they weren't even in the same friggin' *city* ... everybody knows that all of Erik Larsen's freak characters, including Horridus, are in Chicago!!!)

Irina, re: "Slash fics": Ohh, you shoulda been at the fanfic panel at the Gathering when P.N. Elrod gave her opinion on slash fanfic. Fun was had by all, let me tell ya. ;)

Spacebabie, re: TGS dream: **scratches head** Oh ... kaaaaay ... well, I suppose dreams really *aren't* supposed to make sense. Would explain the dream I had in sixth grade where I was running around Paris in my underwear and the streets were lined with garbage and I was being chased by a black stretch limo.

**looks at the weird stares** Whaaat?! I was 13, gimme a break!!

SOROW: Way to go, girl! :)

Fleur: None taken, m'girl. :) I actually encourage folks to MST my fics. I'm such a perfectionist that even after the stories are the best they can be, I will *never* be satisfied with their quality. More than likely, if ye want to see more of my stuff MSTed, the next one to appear will be Cyrway's Party Krashers, Inc. MSTing the first tome of G:CM (the first seven stories). She already sent me a small sample of it, and it ROCKS!! :)

Delphi, re: Swedish chain saw instructions: As SJ said last week, the truly sad part is that they wouldn't put that warning on unless someone *had* actually tried it. Poor, stupid fool ... nobody ever told 'im that logging and nudism don't mix. :)

**sits back down on the floor, fixating on the candle's flame once more**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, August 23, 1999 10:49:22 AM
IP: modem89.i-is.com

Robby--**embarrassed blush** Uhm, sorry about snapping!! I didn't know -- Hugs him- well, all is forgiven. :)

Fleur-- so glad you liked "Let there be gargoyles" and thanks for your support -- yeah, I love the way gargs had such positive family role models-- so thanks again.

Did anyone notice my teaser before this room got wiped, or should I put it up again?
Jenna
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:26:29 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Regarding other Deathmatch fics:
I've linked my story with Cyrway's Deathmatch page. If you click on the words "Gargoyles Celebrity Deathmatch", it should take you right there.
Spike
Monday, August 23, 1999 09:20:22 AM
IP: ppp18-65.ght.iadfw.net

Goodmorning everyone
here's the last of those consumer labels:

On Sainsbury's peanuts: Warning: contains nuts.
(but no peas?)
On an American Airlines packet of nuts:
Instructions: open packet, eat nuts.
(have a lobotomy)

On a Swedish chainsaw:
Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals.
(What is this, a home castration kit?)

On a child's Superman costume:
Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly.
(That's right, destroy a universal childhood fantasy!)

> To handle yourself, use your head;
> To handle others, use your heart.
catch ya'll later

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:37:34 AM
IP: 207.14.195.159

Hi all!!

Pistoff:"Almost semi-permanent"!>>*LOL*That's as bad as saying genuine imitation original:)

Fleur:Glad to hear that your radiator is fixed.

Fleur again:Oh that reminds me, I saw a guy driving around with his bonnet up once. Yes, the _bonnet_.>>*ROTFL*I've seen somebody do that in my travels but it's still funny to see that kind of stupidity in action:)

Delphi re warning labels:*ROTFLMAO*

Gotta get some rest C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, August 23, 1999 08:00:49 AM
IP: 203.29.192.74

Okay, everyone... back from watching Star Wars etc., and done catching up on the events in my absence.

Robby: Yeah, I was talking about the Queen melody, We Are The Champions... sorry I wasn't more clear.

Puns: **Looks around with a dreamy gaze.** Aww, duuuudes! Gives me the desire to bring up one, too. And what's more: This is an actual true story, the pun is one I worked out afterwards (which is why it is less-than-brilliant).

The hunting-buddy of a friend's neighbour was out to hunt... and on one occasion he placed his rifle againts a tree while he was tying his bootlace. Unfortunately, a bear arrived, and the poor guy was up in the tree in an instant. The bear found this weird thing standing against the tree, started playing with it.... BANG! the branch the guy was sitting on was shot off, and the only reason he got away was that the bear was too scared to follow.
A few weeks later, same place, same setup. The guy decided to play dead this time, and as before, the bear started to play with the gun. BANG! The bear was chewing on the barrel, wnd the gun went off. Unfortunately, the bear toppled over and landed on the hapless hunter's leg, breaking it. The guy decided it was too dangerous, hunting like that, and decided on duck hunting instead, when his leg was better.
Unfortunately, when his shotgun was rested against a tree, the dog tipped it over and shot the guy in the good leg.
Last I heard, the guy was in hospital with a fishing hook in the foot.
The morale? If you can't bear guns, try getting hooked on something else...

I told you it wasn't that good, but the story is true.

As for all ye Joyriders: It will take a while until the page is updated again, because of port trouble in the school LAN. This may be corrected during the next week. All Joyride events are stored for the time being.

Who drew the beaked dame? More! More! Y'hear?

Spike: Can't wait to read the Deathmatch. Brings up a weird thought. Anyone seen a film, I think it was called "Mean guns", starring... uh... that Highlander guy... **Scratches his head** Oh, yeah, Christopher Lambert! The plot was the following: 100 assassins, 10000 guns, 1000000$ to the survivor afterwards. Now *there's* a Deathmatch for ya. (My first though before I saw the film was "It's one of those f*cking Camper-movies again, I'll wager!")

South Park observations: Aww, the film was magnificent! Who'd believed Kenny to have such an ordinary face? And the duel between Saddam and Cartman? Priceless! And the movie hasn't even reached Norway yet! You gotta love ISDN and a weekend of nothing doing, eh? (Especially when it's a friend who does it for ya). Oooops, said too much!

Star Wars observations: Awesome movie, Darth Maul was obviously skilled in Bo combat... just a pity he did evrything so f*cking slow...

Ooops, gotta go. Catch ya later, everyone!
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 23, 1999 07:54:48 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Fleur: Glad your car's working now! YAY! :D

Delphi: Heh, good ones. Reminds me of a set of instructions for laundry balls (I think you're supposed to put them in a washing machine with the clothes, and the balls keep everything from getting tangled up, or something like that. It's been a while since I saw this, so I'm not sure...). Anyway, the instructions had been translated from Japanese, and the best line was...brace yourself, now...

"Almost semi-permanent"!

**RIMSHOT**
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 02:30:41 AM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com

Delphi > glad to hear it!

Sevarius joke > a groaner, yeah, aren't they all? ; ) I remember Missy's story ... they're always the best when you don't see 'em coming!

Avalon Mists > deadline in 3 days and counting ...

Ack! Have to leave for work! Later, all!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, August 23, 1999 12:35:56 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Ack, all Dragonball and Pokemon comments lately. Eeesh...

Wilek- Yes, Dragonball has had a bit of brief nudity within the 500 episode/16 movie series, as on at least three occassion we see Goku taking a bath, another three occassions we see Gohan peeing, Bulma taking a shower once, and a couple of naked newborns here and there. Nothing serious, and it certainley doesn't come up in the third season Frieza fight... What the show censors is ALL evidence of blood, cuss words, and any serious pysical attack. So there's lame dialouge, characters that have gone 12 rounds in serious battle barely look bruised, and we don't see any character getting a hole through their chest or dying. We also don't see guns being used or Gohan peeing three times in three episodes. These edits I can understand to a degree, (though its nothing that hasn't been on other American animated shows), however, they completely cut an entire character named Lunch out of the series, and the first season, despite being 35 episodes in Japan, was only 26 episodes here. Ickk... but what I really don't get... WHY THE FREAK DO THEY EDIT OUT GOHAN'S TEARS? TEARS for cryin' out loud!

Robby
Sunday, August 22, 1999 11:50:35 PM
IP: spider-te024.proxy.aol.com

Goodeve everyone, I had a great day digging around in the fanfic, Christine I have really been enjoying some of your earlier works
I just recieved a fun email of things to do in walmart anyone interested I can email to you
Almost at the end of my consumer labels:

On Nytol sleep aid: Warning: may cause drowsiness.
(One would hope!)
On a string of Chinese-made Christmas lights: For indoor or outdoor use only.
(As opposed to use in outer space?)

On a Japanese food processor: Not to be used for the other use.
(Now I'm curious.)
NOw here's something to start your week off
> Many people will walk in and out of your life,
> but only true friends will leave footprints in your heart.
>Goodnight everyone have a great day tommorrow

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Sunday, August 22, 1999 11:26:06 PM
IP: 207.14.200.94

**RP!**

[Fleur: "Okay bar-keep, where�s Wilek? I need to stay here, in case the Marnia show up. Besides, if the Ravens are walking straight into a trap, they�ll need some help getting out of it." Barkeep: "I don't know...Computer, where's Wilek?" Computer: "Wilek Nereus is in his quarters." Fleur: "Thanks." With that, she finds Wilek's room aboard the station, and knocks on the door. Wilek: "Huh? Er, come in." The door slides open, and Fleur steps in. Wilek: "Oh, hi." Fleur: "I need to speak with you..."]

**END RP!**

<grr> I had to try a ZILLION TIMES just to connect to the Internet. Mr. Disconnect is SO in for it tomorrow.

Shogun Raptor> <<Dash rendar's ship was in there? where?>> I don't remember exactly, but I think it was one of the aerial shots of Mos Eisley in the first movie. I'll check the Star Wars: Behind The Magic CD later; I think it tells the exact place. <<Trek Actors in a SW film, but so help me, They just have that sort of Chemistry>> So I've noticed. I've always cast Gates McFadden as Admiral Daala, Malcom MacDowell as Bevel Lemelisk, Marina Sirtis as Tionne, Alexander Siddig as Brakiss, and Jennifer Lien as Qwi Xux. And possibly the guy who plays Gul Dukat as Admiral Thrawn, but I'm not sure. And they're not Star Trek, but Patricia Tallman as Mara Jade and Mira Furlann as Winter. ^_^

Jewel> <> AAAAACCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!! This makes Matthew Watson's fics look almost tolerable...

$Argent> <<Can you please tell me what I missed, and where that little device I gave Pikachu ended up?>> Er...I think he gave it to me, and now it's on the station somewhere? Ack I forgot! I'm dumb! Wait...Pikachu's on the station, so the device has to be as well. Hopefully...As for what you missed: The World Devastator has been destroyed, the major Borg villains (Guod, Borgis, and Butt-borg) are dead, and everyone has returned to the Avatar Of Ganon. Then, the Ravens recieved an e-mail from an enemy hacker, saying he wants to defect. It's a trap, but none of our characters know that yet. The Ravens have returned to Earth to go meet him, and the rest of us are on the station. Oh, and Pikachu's roaring drunk. 'Pika<hic>chu!' ^_^$

Spacebabie> <<You have played Phantasmagoria also? wich one the first or the second?>> The first one. In fact, it was a major influence on my tastes in music, movies, etc. It's primarily to blame for why I'm so twisted now. >;) Your dream> Woah. That's the kind of dream that spawns very interesting fanfics. :)

Robby> Ah...interesting. So that's how Pikachu did it. Smart little rodent. :) <<Of course, the giant "When Clans Collide" mural I've been thinking about doing for the last three months will be pretty cool if I ever get around to it...>> That sounds so kewl! ^_^ <<Also, there's a hope among all hopes, (not very likely I'll admit) that since CN is giving the show an 11:30 timeslot, that they might show the uncut versions then.>> I've heard something about one of the reasons for censorship being (very) brief nudity? If that's true, uncut versions aren't likely (although nudity is the only censorship-worthy thing about that show that I know of).

Adrienne> <<*pouts* whaddaya mean? Maul and Obi-Wan are a *lovely* couple! (clickie!)>> Heh...sorry, just a personal quirk of mine; slash fic (this is the kind of thing Matt Watson and the Sith Academy people write, no?) tends to make me want to go out and do terrible, horrible things to the writer. :)

Jewel> <<18th Century French Political Pornography>> <blink> *Political* pornography...? Oh, like the Ken Starr report. :P

Theresa> <<Will someone find out who invented voice mail and help fulfill that person's deathwish.>> Joyride time! ;D

Ironwolf> <<Ok new topic what�s everyone doing for Halloween and what are you going as?>> Same as always--buy twisted decorations for the house <hehehe>.

Fleur> Glad your car's fixed! :D <<Wilek, you are a maniacal, creative GENIUS!! :)>> <bows> Why thank you, and enjoy. >:) <> What? This guy was driving around with the hood of his car up?! :O It would have served the idiot right if there had been a hailstorm or something else that would do ghastly things to the engine.

Kaioto> <> There are some other Gargs deathmatches at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/5363/. $<> Ah, good...a whole load of info about the RP can be found at http://members.xoom.com/DumlaoX/rp/index.html. As for the rest of it...I've done an RP-based 'fic' or two (I'm just starting a story about the Avatar's Borg population), if that's what you mean. :) <sigh> Sometimes I think I'm more suited to writing for the RP than for my ficverse; sad state of affairs, that...$
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, August 22, 1999 11:15:44 PM
IP: tnt-3-159-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hm ... well, I suppose a normal post is in order ...

First, let me thank everyone who wished me well. I'm over my sick thing now, and did very well enduring the bulk of the week being sick and working full time, mostly in part to all the positive energy directed my way. Thanks to all of you.

Hm ... Read The MySTing of Coyote's "Sleepover" was a total hoot. Loved it.

I also read Spikes Deathmatch. I'm quite amused. If there are any more Deathmatches out there, give me some links, people, please!

I'm also a fan of Dragonball. I've seen some subtitled GT episodes and look forward to seeing that set too. I hope the dorms get CN this year darn it.

Hm ... so, people are listing off their fav animated bods, eh? Well, *glances over at Lexy* I'm not going to go there. *L* No, seriously though. I've actually noticed through all the anime I've watched that I wish I had hair like and could dress as snappy as Darien/Mamarou. Especially once he busts out the Tuxedo Kamen and Prince Endamion (sp) Outfits. The roses are of course a must for any hopeless romantic ... :)

Conan the Adventurer: You know, one thing always struck me as funny about the Middle-eastern mage guy ... this was like ancient times. The guy is casting spells in Latin. "Fulmina iactus" to "throw lightening" for his lightening bolts. From the setting. I'd say the Roman empire doesn't even exist yet. Even if Latin was spoken anywhere at this point, it would be a contemporary language, not one shrowded in mystery. I think Latin shouldn't mean much in the magic of African, Native American, or Eastern cultures.

Doug: Care to give me some info of Jadriel? I'm curious.

Hm ... I've discovered I have a much better talent for writing my own characters into other worlds than crafting my own ... I think I enjoy introducing characters and scenes into team or partnership projects more. I guess I should join the RP group ... and if anyone is interested in writing contribution or project work, drop me a line.

Well, that does it for now. Thanks for all your feedback and compliments too. Again, you flatter me far too much.

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, August 22, 1999 10:10:52 PM
IP: 1cust232.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Just missed it.
Jenniren
Sunday, August 22, 1999 09:08:24 PM
IP: user-2ivf1gn.dialup.mindspring.com

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Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, August 22, 1999 09:04:50 PM
IP: modem14.i-is.com

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Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, August 22, 1999 09:01:41 PM
IP: dial-82.ocis.net

Somewhere around five.

*Relurks*

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:58:17 PM
IP: proxy-373.public.rwc.webtv.net

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Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:55:38 PM
IP: 32.new-york-15rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Ordell- Of course the Dragonball Z episodes are gonna be chopped up. but the theory is since Cartoon Network is a cable channel, the editing will be a bit more leniant than before. (Of course with lines such as "I'm done like dinner", censorship isn't the only problem...) Also, since the fandom has like, unanimously protested the terrible job being done on the first few videos, they may clean up (or dirty depending on viewpoint) their act later on. Also, there's a hope among all hopes, (not very likely I'll admit) that since CN is giving the show an 11:30 timeslot, that they might show the uncut versions then. Isn't going to happen, but for the next half a month I can hope...

Also, Trunks won't be in season 3. They have 50 episodes schedualed, that will take them through the Frieza fight and the Garlic Jr. saga. (What a waste of filler the Garlic Jr. story is...)
Robby
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:54:38 PM
IP: spider-te084.proxy.aol.com

*bounces in, bleary-eyed but incredibly hyperactive.*
Went out with friends last night... went to that nice place I very rarely visit called 'Tipsy and loving it!'...didn't get nearly enough sleep...but then, I don't get hungover, I just get into a really stupid mood, so be warned, everybody. :)

Car saga> Radiator is fixed - one of the tubes inside it sprang a leak. And I got the quote to fix the damage to the car...owchie.

JackaL> *HUGS* Welcome back! I was getting worried.

Someone sensitive> *Grins VERY widely* You sneak! :) If you're lurking, HELLO!!!

Coyote> I read Mara�s MSTing. *starts laughing at the memory. When the laughter dies away, stays on the floor, holding her stomach* Help, I've fallen and I can't get up... :) No offence, of course Coyote. I wasn't laughing at what you wrote, I was laughing at what _she_ wrote, which I think you understand since you thought it was funny too. I have to say, it was very brave of you to ask her to MST your work - I wouldn't be able to. (Besides, in my case, I think there'd just be _too_ much material for her to work with.:))
Begging for Information> Can anybody tell me the name of those archaeologists who found Merlin's scrolls in 'Lighthouses in the Sea of Time'? I know they introduced themselves to Elisa in that episode where she had her memory taken away from her, but I don't have any of the Avalon world tour on tape, and I can't remember their names. I need it for this CD that won't leave me alone.

WELCOME BACK SJ!! Errggghh. Family trip from Hell. Boy, doesn't _that_ bring back memories I'd rather repress. My sympathies.

Jewel> 'Mommy dearest'. Man, I know I have no right to say this, but you mum sounds like a *takes deep breath and a little control* Very Nasty Person. I think, at this point, the best thing you can do is stick to your guns and keep her out of your life as much as possible. Wait until she's grown up a bit and has stopped being so selfish. (Man, that seems like such weird advice to give a daughter about her mother.) *reads on, and gasps in outrage* YOUR MOTHER DID WHAT? Take the most expensive car, get it in writing so it�s all nice and legal, make sure it says _exactly_ why she's giving you the car (i.e. she swiped all your money), and then get as far away from her as you possibly can. *hugs* Whatever you chose to do, I hope things improve.

Jenna> I liked 'And Let There be Gargoyles'. >Believe it or not, I have already got flamed for this piece, though it was only put up yesterday afternoon. I suppose writing about incest, rape, dismemberment and violence are okay- but to write about God is not to some people -- go fig.< eh? Weirdness. And I really agree with what you said about families.

Zath> Welcome back! I'm glad your mouth's feeling better, but all the same... *Delivery guys drop off an enormous ice-cream sundae* Enjoy! (Hey, one good thing when I had all my wisdoms out was that I had a really good excuse to eat lots of gooey food:))

Wilek> >This is called Mr. Thingy. They're probably illegal in Australia (although it's not like they're legal here in the States), but I think you can get away with it if you don't leave enough left of the morons. >:)< Oooohhh, Fun!! *Runs over to Mr. Thingy and starts pressing buttons, clapping her hands with delight whenever the blades and needles and.. unidentifiables pop out.* Wilek, you are a maniacal, creative GENIUS!! :) As for that website - somebody give this pastor his medicine. NOW. :)

Happy belated birthday Greg 'Xanatos' Bishansky!

Big welcome to Marina, Ravenhurst, Lil, Sarge Abernathy, The Hound of Truth, Jackson, and Irina!!! (So many new faces, so many sanities to take!! Muwhahahahaha!)

Green Baron> >I think Elisa likes Goliath to be stiff :)< *LOL* You wrote what I was thinking! >:) (This is my mind, it lives in the gutter.:))

Robby> Congratulations on meeting the �local comic god�!!
Heather> *gasps* Okay, I won't ask, but... *Gives her several careful hugs* Get well soon, and if there's anything I can do, let me know. I�m thinking of you.

Christine> I'd be interested in that 'zine, but since I haven't got a suitable story, I'll won't bug you with em's until I've written one. :) Congratulations on becoming an Aunt!

Kiaoto> GET WELL SOON!

Dags> Good luck with your car.

Mary> My sympathies to the sister, but I'm afraid I feel nothing but disgust and anger towards those boys. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I've got a no tolerance for people like that.

Warning labels> *Laughs so hard she ends up on the floor again.* You know, I think I�ll just stay here a while. :) But that curling iron one... eeoorghh! *Shudders* >I've seen on one of those car window shade things, 'Do not drive with this in place'.< Oh that reminds me, I saw a guy driving around with his bonnet up once. Yes, the _bonnet_. From day on, whenever my friend and I saw something phenominally stupid or insane, it was named �bonnet-worthy�. :)

Happy Birthday Todd!

traveler> You belong here, buddy. You choosing the same name as another member of the CR was just an accident, and we all know it. I like Delphi�s suggesting about choosing a name that reflects who�d you like _to be_, but since you asked, I think Wanderer and night walker sound pretty kewl. I know most of the bands you mentioned and like half of them. We�ve all got pretty varied taste in music, so basically you could like _anything_ and there�d be somebody else who liked it too. (with the possible exception of clod-dancing to an accordian. :))

Iriana> Wow. Thank you muchly for the mind food about Tragedies.

Sarge>>I'm a bit woozy because my family's painting the house and the fumes are getting to me.< Look out for a little green guy with a Scottish accent, or pink pooka-dot elephants. :) And as for your little problem, you could do what somebody in the CR (I forget who) suggested Pistoff do when somebody stole his characters - before you post your stories, write down all your characters, descriptions, storylines etc., and mail them to yourself. When it arrives, do _not_ open the envelope, just put it in a safe place. The date�ll be stamped on the envelope, and, even though I seriously doubt if you�ll ever need it, you�ll have proof should anybody steal any of your work. Of course, in this fandom, anybody that low would be flamed until they�re crispy (ask Pistoff ), but doing it would give you a bit of peace of mind.

LM> Congratulations on the job offer!

Christi> That deathmatch�*Still lying on the floor, laughs until her sides hurt* Oh, well done.

Puns> You people are cruel. Just cruel. And very, very sick.

TTFN!
**WE�VE GOT AN RP HERE PEOPLES!!**
Fleur walks up to the Avatar�s bartender, frowning.
"Where the heck is everybody?"
"Jammer left you a note." The bartender replies, handing her a piece of paper. Fleur reads in and her frown deepens.
"Okay bar-keep, where�s Wilek? I need to stay here, in case the Marnia show up. Besides, if the Ravens are walking straight into a trap, they�ll need some help getting out of it."
**END BLESSEDLY SHORT RP AND HORRIBLY LONG POST**

Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:47:08 PM
IP: cow.cc.monash.edu.au

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Fleur
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:35:03 PM
IP: cow.cc.monash.edu.au

Top ten!

Robby> You do realize that the new DBZ episodes will be cut to hell. Especially when they introduce Trunks, just because he's a little smart-ass. Oh well, it's what we're all (most of us) are used to anyways.

Later all....
Ordell - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:34:01 PM
IP: ppp-156.ode.cableone.net

SHENZI AND ED!
Robby
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:27:24 PM
IP: spider-te014.proxy.aol.com

BANZAI!
Toku Kaioto
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:26:08 PM
IP: 1cust232.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

ONLY 15 MORE DAYS TILL CARTOON NETWORK STARTS NEW DRAGONBALL EPS! YAY!

Jenna- Heh. I was trying to make a joke. A lousy one, but a joke. I'm not saying a picture of all the garg females is a bad idea, in fact, I think its pretty cool and would in all honestly love to try and draw it myself. However, I lack the skill to do such a thing and jumped out of the possibility of doing it immediatley for someone more talented to do it... Of course, the giant "When Clans Collide" mural I've been thinking about doing for the last three months will be pretty cool if I ever get around to it...

Say, it's Sunday isn't it? guess I should wipe the room before I forget...
Robby
Sunday, August 22, 1999 08:24:36 PM
IP: spider-te014.proxy.aol.com