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Business Question: For you photo-types out there, what do you usually charge for photo restoration, and how do you come up with a good fee to charge?

Longer post later.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 11:11:56 PM
IP: t1-27.visitus.net

Ran across something disturbing the other day ... they show Ronald McDonald cartoon videos at the fast-food joint of the same name, and if there's anything more sickening than hearing Owen's voice coming out of Ronald's _dog_, I don't wanna know what it is! But on the plus side, it kills the appetite ...

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 10:40:41 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

I'm afraid that the disney execs are still performing their own colonoscopies (in other words, their heads are still FULLY lodged up their @sses)they are turning that infernal *ug* 1 saturday moring into a weekday lineup, including the unspeakable harbinger of the current Cr@ppy state of american animation today(save for certain shows and most anime) as well as that godawful show abcess...er recess
and now, a scene from a crossover we'd all like to see

Demona: DIE PITIFUL DISNEY PROGRAMMING EXECS!!!!!
Speaking of Anime, there's one out called Aika:naked mission, it's full of gratuituous nudity/panty shots, sick humor and other fun stuff, but the kicker is that the main villains look like some kind of twisted adult-oriented version of Team Rocket (the Jesse & James not Butch and Cassidy) thankfully, they are sans Meowth
speaking of which, I Saw the first Ghostbusters movie the other night and so help me, Zuul and Gozer sounded just like Frieza (the american version)
shogun raptor
Sunday, September 5, 1999 10:10:06 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

I'm gonna try and wipe the room pretty close to midnight CR time. So if you guys wanna try a real top ten showdown, tonights the night to do it. And just for the appropriate mood, some western showdown music...
Robby the CR DJ
Sunday, September 5, 1999 09:32:56 PM
IP: spider-wi031.proxy.aol.com

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Anonymous
Sunday, September 5, 1999 08:10:24 PM
IP: spider-wo083.proxy.aol.com

**enters the room, switching out the candles. Sits down roughly in the lawn chair.**

Ughh ... bad day at work today, I *hate* working holiday weekends!!

Cherry Blossom: Close, but no cigar, sadly. The poster to the room you're thinking of is Ryvnn IcKevern, not (Lady) Ravyn Maza. And I checked it out to see if she was Ravyn using a pseudonym of her pseudonym, but it wasn't her ...
1) Ryvnn's RP style is much different from Ravyn's
2) Her Angelfire page lists Wyoming as her RL home state (Ravyn is in Arizona)
3) Ryvnn is a polar-opposite RP character to Ravyn's.
Thanks for the help, but unfortunately we're barking up the wrong tree. (I'll contact ye privately about who I'm talking about)

Robby: Slayers NEXT tends to follow Rule #31, especially near the end of the third tape (I happened to notice Lina's hair color changing, despite lighting changes, from red to green.).

Wilek: **rolls eyes at ReBoot comment** Oyy ... those jerks. No wonder why that tombstone Frisket pops out of in "Mend and Defend" reads "Here Lies the Mainframe Joint Alliance: An Unholy Union." :)

Night Walker: I don't think you missed it yet, it wouldn't be on until 8:30.
And now that I think of it, Bjork seems to do a lot for soundtracks, in my experience ... my personal favorite of her works is "Army of Me" from the "Tank Girl" soundtrack.

Fire Storm: The better stuff is on the WB (20 around us) on Saturday mornings, when they show Batman Beyond and Men in Black. Wish they had a decent action 'toon debuting again this year, like they did with BB last year and MIB the year before. (Of course, those two *were* at the expense of two other good series that never got a chance ... MIB replaced "Calamity Jane" and BB replaced "Brats of the Lost Nebula.")

Mary Flanders: Starting again? Well, it's only natural to be nervous, really. One thing for sure is that you always have trouble letting go of the first one you loved. I might be one of the lucky ones ... my split with my ex was reasonable and friendly, and we're still friends even now (she kids me about putting out an APB on me ... so you can pretty much guess she knows about Ravyn).
Seriously, though ... if it feels right, go for it, Mary. That's all I can tell ye on the matter. That and good luck to both you and Bahemut.

SOROW: It's called "going steady," FYI. And way to go, girl!

**sighs briefly, glancing up to the candle's flame, then continues**

Top ten shows of the '90s, huh? I think I can give a pretty thoroughly well-balanced list ...
1: Gargoyles
2: ReBoot
3: Ally McBeal
4: Xena: Warrior Princess (first three seasons)
5: 7th Heaven
6: The X-Files (first four seasons)
7: The Pretender
8: ER
9: Chicago Hope
10: Mystery Science Theater 3000

Here's a new tack for this list ... 10 *worst* shows of the '90s in my opinion:
1: NYPD Blue (there hasn't been a single episode of this series that's been remotely watchable for me)
2: Melrose Place
3: Silk Stalkings
4: Baywatch (there's only two reasons why this show was the world's most watched, and Pamela Anderson just got rid of them this year.)
5: Jerry Springer
6: Pepper Ann
7: *ANY* incarnation of Power Rangers, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, or whatever the hell they come up with next from the right hand of Satan known as Haim Saban.
8: Histeria!
9: Ellen (all eps after coming out ... Ellen forgot that the point of her show was to be *funny,* not just to point out that she was gay)
10: Spider-Man (later seasons when the shows were so rushed they felt like "Speed Racer" episodes, especially in the dialogue ... the series had a lot of potential for me *before* they started speeding up the pacing of the actors.)
I might point out that these are my own personal opinions in this list, so if you're offended, I apologize in advance.

**sits back in the lawn chair, fixating on the candle's flame once more**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, September 5, 1999 07:19:10 PM
IP: 207.91.254.51

Hello just want to drop by with a little info about the next Gargoyles convention: The Gathering or G2K being held in Orlando Florida August 4-6 of 2000. We look like we are very close to nailing down a hotel for your stay with very reasonable nightly rates. We should have that very soon so just keep an eye out for that in the Newsletter. If you wish to receive the Newsletter just send us an email with a statement about receiving info and we will get that out to you as soon as we can. Also if you have any info that you want to share, any questions or ideas just drop us a note. I know I woould love to hear form you. Thanks again, Draconis
Draconis - [gathering2K@hotmail.com]
Orlando, Florida
Sunday, September 5, 1999 06:06:57 PM
IP: 179-44.kua.net

Top 10 Animated Shows

1) Gargoyles
2) Batman: The Animated Series
3) Darkwing Duck
4) Disney's Hercules
5) Batman Beyond
6) South Park
7) The Simpsons
8) Reboot
9) Beast Wars
10) Pokemon

Top 10 Live-action Shows

1) Cupid
2) Ally McBeal
3) Farscape
4) Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
5) Friends
6) Frasier
7) The Practice
8) Early Edition
9) That 70s Show
10) Third Rock from the Sun

Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 05:51:51 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

PS> oops.. sorry about the double post
Bronx wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 05:30:19 PM
IP: spider-wi032.proxy.aol.com

Top Ten Animated Toons:

1 Gargoyles
2 The new adventures of Batman and Superman
3 Spawn
4 Dragon ball z
5 Sailormoon
6 X men
7 Reboot
8 Beastwars
9 The simpsons
10 Pokemon ( hey I like to watch them once and awhile!)

Top Ten Shows for the 1990's:
1 Gargoyles
2 Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
3 Buffy the vampire slayer
4 Fraiser
5 3rd rock from the sun (not very popular but a funny show)
6 Farscape
7 South Park
8 Pinky and the Brain
9 Crocodile Hunter (that guy is so out of this world!)
10 Jerry Springer

Hi all! I know it's been a little while since last post, but things have been a little hectic for me between school and trying to find a job and things like that.

**SHORT RP!***
Bronx still finds herself in the god aful desert, however, now she does have company. "So jack, where have you been all this time?"
Jack paused for a moment, then answered "I've been in section 32 for a time.. looking after this world."
Bronx sighs, this was going to be a long trip, and her brother is full of secrets.

**END RP***
Whew, I know I'm not really good at doing Rp here in the Cr, but I suppose practice makes perfect!

On Love> I might be a little late on commenting about this but oh well what the heck. It seems like there is alot of different opinions on the subject,what love is supposed to be, or what the negativity is causes, but in my opinion, it's a little of both. Today in the movies, people portray love as a happy ending thing, where it normally runs like this:
People meet, there is a presence of a feeling, they hook up but then something gets in the way, and they tear apart, but then the realize that they do belong together, and they live happily ever after.

Yeah Right. When in Hollywood.......

In real life though, love doesn't permit this. It's a trial and error thing, and there really isn't such a thing called love at first sight. (well maybe, I've seen it happen sometimes, but only in the utmost rare occasions) Friendships IMHO can often change into a relationship,and this is caused by very fraglie steps. It's really hard to go from being friends, to being an item. Elisa and Goliath had this problem- they felt that there was something more than friendship, but due to differences and the fact that if they did go farther, the bond would be broken and everything would be changed.

"You can't always get want you want, but if you try sometime, you can get what you need."- Mc Jagger

Compromise, a word that should keep in all couple's minds. In love, there should always be strong bonds so that there is never a point in time where there is awkward silence (that I really hate when that happens!) Also, IMO there must a line where love doesn't have to be there, (this is where some negative points turn up, be warned!) but however each other's presence and company only. It's really conforting to know that someone is right beside you, and that you know you don't have to be alone. Augh I truly gag at some points when I see people making out in the school hallways. Physical attraction is apart of love yes, but there is always a time and a place for that thing.

Anyway, I feel like I'm going to ramble now, so I will not continue with this!

Beast Machines> I finally saw the preview for it, and it looks pretty darn good!

New DBZ eps> Darn, I would've really liked to see them, unfortunetly though my cable doesn't have it available for ordering or viewing on television. So for now... I suppose I'll have to ask my Grandma very nice and maybe she will tape them for me at her house..

Night Walker> I didn't forget about you my rookery brother! I will answer your email back very soon I promice.

Will post some more later! Until then mes a mis!

"Twidle Blain and Twidle Brain? If It's All The Same I'll Play Your Game!"

Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 05:29:04 PM
IP: spider-wi032.proxy.aol.com

Heeeelllllooooo everyone! Well, last night was probably one of the most perfect nights of my life, and my cutie and I are really thinking about going official (if that's what you call it)!

Princess Mononoke> I was watching a Siskel and Ebert special on animation and they had a preview for this. THe one part I saw was a girl and some sort guy sword fighting. I was just thinking that the girl looks a lot like my idea of Sata... if she were human.

Top Ten Cartoons... hmmmm, I'm going to think about that one for a while.
SOROW
Sunday, September 5, 1999 04:11:18 PM
IP: dll2b204-16.splitrock.net

Top 10 Animated Shows:
1) Gargoyles
2) Dargonball Z
3) ExoSquad
4) Spawn
5) ReBoot
6) Beast Wars
7) Batman
8) Angel Cop
9) Neon Genesis
10) X-Men (latter of the series)

New Poll...top ten television series of the 1990s...here's mine..
1) Gargoyles
2) Farscape
3) Stargate SG-1
4) Sliders (seasons 1, 2 and 3 up until The Exodus; basically all non-Maggie episode)
5) Buffy, the Vampire Slayer
6) Oz
7) Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
8) Babylon 5
9) Earth 2
10) Crusade

I have a thing for short lived series that should of been 5 - 6 seasons.....

All for now....
Ordell - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 02:11:47 PM
IP: spider-wb052.proxy.aol.com

i just saw the lion king for the first time this morning and i loved it! asante sana squash banana we we nugu mimi apana...
Kermit the Frog
Sunday, September 5, 1999 12:20:32 PM
IP: spider-th063.proxy.aol.com

*enters*

Hello people! I don't think you need to worry about me and my love life anymore because I've found someone who is very funny and just about as kinky as me. ;P I believe some of you know Bahemut. I really like talking to him and last night we talked on the phone (the I won't say what about since it isn't very decent.;) He's more up-key for me than Dags and he's very enjoyable. I have to say he's growing on me VERY fast. But I also have to admit that I feel a bit nervous about starting a new relationship. I've never been in a real relationship before IRL and all guys kept at a distance from me and I just feel kinda nervous about all of it. I really like Bahemut but I can't help having these jitters. :/
Mary Flanders
Sunday, September 5, 1999 11:52:04 AM
IP: ramp-1-19.ucdavis.edu

Been a bit.
I'm starting to get bored of the THE GARGOYLES SAGA Comment Room. Usually I'll get interested in GARGOYLESish related discussion for about a month or so and then get uninterested. The excellent Episodes in THE GARGOYLES SAGA got me back in here, and the variety of topics that came up caused me to stay. I'm starting to get bored again, though.
Nevertheless, it seems I should've been in here.
The topic of caring for one another is a rather sensitive one, as is life itself, I'll be giving my views on that after I conclude other business, whatever little amount there is here.

First of all, the whole debate with Irina and Jewel Faulkner. Everything from it from where it started to perspectives and such have been moved out of this Comment Room and into Electronic Mail. So I'm not responding here anymore to that.
Its over now anyway, but regardless, just making sure there's no room for confusion here.

Doug-About the LUNAR Stories. Inform me when you read some, please, over Electronic Mail if I absent myself from this place again, or here if I don't.

Xenobia, Royce, and Phacia-Yes, they're in LUNAR: SILVER STAR STORY: COMPLETE. Note, though, its not an Anime, its a Video Game!

Caring and Love-Okay, this is a sensitive topic. So's life, too. I could probably go on about both life and caring for hours but I have other things to do.
This is my own view on this, and isn't in response to any commentary... Yet. I'll respond during the debate to the few viewpoints that got my attention moreso than others... From the way they were phrased, et cetera. Or maybe not, it depends on what comes up in the way I phrase this.
Doug, Kitainia, this should also show you why 'romantic' is a very, very shallow term, in my opinion, for Fei's, and Elly's relationship in XENOGEARS, as well as Goliath, and Elisa in GARGOYLES.
First of all, caring has nothing to do with physical attraction. If you think someone is pretty or handsome or whatever that's to be ignored. A physical relationship can be part of caring for someone, that's one form of unity. However, that depends on the person.
The whole meaning of friendship, and/or the next level, caring, or love, whichever term you wish to use, is to support one another. Humans are, by themselves, imperfect. That's why people have friends. To overcome that imperfection, and to support each other. That's why people need to have friends, and need to be cared for. That's why so many people want to be cared for, most likely. To have someone to go to when they're insecure, and vice versa. That's where emotional support comes in.
What it means to live, in my opinion, is to protect people you have as friends, and/or care for, and keep them from harm, as well as support your friends. And to have that support, both friendship, and beyond, returned. Even if not, to at least attempt to support others.
Okay, this'll start to show a bit of my philosophy about life now, at least in terms of selfishness, since the two aspects, life, and caring, are so intertwined.
Onwards.
In my opinion, many humans are selfish because they have no one to turn to. They've been rejected and despised by others so much that they think only they can help themselves and thus become selfish. Only wherever this vicious cycle started, when mistakes were probably made, and people couldn't support each other, most likely, is regardless. Its a cycle, though, because the continuous causings of pain, and agony are a result of this. It probably started from misunderstandings, present day society is the result.
Because people are alone they turn to themselves because they think only they can solve their problems. They have to support themselves because they have no one to turn to, and don't have time to support others. So others, viewing them as selfish, classify them as selfish. That's the majority of the population, it seems, although there are so many aspects there that even a 'half-generalization' isn't appropriate. That's why many people are selfish, though.
Then there are the results. The ones who force themselves to be strong while deep down they want to be coddled and comforted by others but won't show it because they're afraid. The ones who want to be healed so badly that they appear so selfish they might get rejected, or feel guilty. The point is, that's okay, too. If someone helps them they can live as well. The worst case situation is when someone is completely shattered by life, and just plain loses faith in humanity. Demona is an example of this, but Krelian is probably the best example here. Lacan, too, but Krelian's views touch upon life, and love much more in-depth.

"All humans do is place themselves at a comfortable distance from one another and call it 'mutual understanding', 'spiritual unity', or 'true love'. But it is all lies!! For one being to gain something another must lose it. Man cannot associate with others without first deceiving himself. That is the way humans are."-Krelian
XENOGEARS

That's sad.
Its not true, although it can appear that way. Some people want to be comforted so much they'll make mistakes, and just wrap themselves up. That's another aspect. They want to be comforted that they neglect what's really important in life, and thus, another person, or people, get hurt.
Comfortable distance... That's not true, either.
Yes, some people do, under deception of thinking they're in love. Most likely the third case scenario, those who will do anything to be loved, to the point of throwing all their pain on someone else, and having them deal with it. The third case and fourth case, the people who are really hurt by life, are usually the ones rejected the most, or they're afraid they'll be rejected, and they'll just retreat, and/or get hurt until they do retreat. Or become like the fourth case, like Demona.
She was hurt by her own actions, people can obviously be hurt by the actions of others.
Most people seem to think its wrong to show weakness, from what I've seen. That's wrong, thinking its wrong to show weakness is wrong. The third case, I've explained there. Take all their problems and then heal the person and they can live. In the fourth case, much more healing could be required, it all depends. Maybe less, depending on the individual.
Caring doesn't just mean boyfriend/girlfriend, it also means caring about anyone, or family.
Romance is a stupid on-the-surface term for caring about someone of an opposite gender. True, in some cases, that may be all that there is to a relationship... Just like 'dating' and 'looks' seem to be the norm in many other cases. Romance and physical relationships are, by themselves, lies. The term can be applied, perhaps, but that's only if the aspect enters relationships. Physical relationships should not be the result of looks but of unity.
Full physical relationships obviously involve mating. Mating is to produce children, its a sacred act that should not be misused, or abused for any other reason. I hear that many people do use this particular aspect for other reasons, and it disgusts me. Creating life should never be abused.
That doesn't mean I'm criticizing physical unity. Some people choose to become physically one before marriage, and while I don't agree with that, I will not criticize that. There's a difference between abusing mating and physical oneness.
However, marriage is important.
Marriage forms family, so then, physical oneness is definitely not a problem. Before marriage, well, its a bit different. Marriage creates a family, so in my opinion physical oneness should be reserved for after marriage, especially since its really to create life.
Physical oneness and creating life should be reserved for after marriage, but I'm not criticizing other choices. I will criticize using mating for 'fun', or 'enjoyment', which is abusing the privelege of creating life.
True caring comes from the heart and the soul, and is based around supporting each other. Its not just admitting love and/or kissing and all those types of aspects. It wasn't really necessary for Elisa to kiss Goliath at the end of HUNTERS' MOON, although it was in character. But since they both knew they really did care about each other, the kiss would have been unnecessary, without it, it was still obvious that then they did love each other.
And it wasn't romance. Their relationship is that of trust and emotional support. Emotional support, again, is the center of what caring should be, and deals with trust, and all those aspects, but especially with Goliath, and Elisa's relationship. The trust, of course. And having a close friend to depend on. Their relationship is emotional support, but seems chiefly in various issues. Trust and having someone who is human to show care, and that can be cared for.
Fei and Elly... Emotional support and all aspects involved, their relationship deals with all aspects of emotional support, and unity. Understanding and spiritual unity simply from understanding one's feelings. If you can care for someone well enough you should be able to understand them.
Spiritual unity is one of the most important aspects of caring, second only to being a family.
Marriage is a way to make unity into family, and family is the absolute most improtant aspect of life there is. The people in a family are always the most important.
Also, again, caring doesn't just involve boyfriend/girlfriend relationships, and marriage. There are plenty other aspects of love. Too many people assume that love just means boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. That's wrong. Love and caring are just another way of giving emotional support to someone, no matter who it is.
Love and caring are the two most important aspects of emotional support, they are emotional support, in a way. Emotional support is one of the two most important aspects of life, the other being family.

"Everyone wants someone to come home to."-Elhaym 'Elly' van Houten
XENOGEARS
Paul Allen Nathans - [LacanPanother@worldnet.att.net]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 11:15:43 AM
IP: 30.morristown-01-02rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

I'm back again. Decided to leave a message now instead of later when I'm at the big Champlain Valley Fair. I don't want to say much since I have a feeling a wipe-out is happening soon.....so no top-ten until then...

Well maybe one top ten, but it's my top ten favs of animated cartoons.....

1. Gargoyles
2. Beast Wars
3. TMNT
4. Simpsons
5. Pokemon (childish aren't I?)
6. Animaniacs
7. Beast Machines (even though they haven't aired yet....)
8. Mickey Mouse Works (Oh yeah am I ever so childish...:P )
9. Pinky and the Brain
10. The warner brother big cartoonie pinky brainy...ahh..something something...cartoonie series.....no umm.....lemme try that again. The biggy pinky brainy.....no.....uh Pinky brainy big cartoonie....ehhhhh.....

Oh what the heck....top ten! Top ten things you shouldn't give a gargoyle.

10. Dayquill
9. A year supply of Sunscreen
8. A computer for lex, powered only by the sun....
7. Viagra (think of it....a garg getting extra hyper by one pill...he'd be jumping all over the castle!)
6. Giving Hudson a list of daytime soaps he might be interested in....
5. A copy of Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame ( I was insulted by that movie! Those gargs just didn't look real.....:( )
4. Jolt. That or Caffine pills.
3. Fingernail Manicre Set.
2. A Barbie-garg doll (Actually I'd like to see what would be their reaction if they saw that...)
1. Flourescent contacts so their eyes would change color when they light them up...

Bye!

In my world Penguins fly, horses moo, and Roosters lay eggs. Sarge
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Sunday, September 5, 1999 09:08:02 AM
IP: spider-tq052.proxy.aol.com

Hi all!!

jewel:is it just me, or were cartoons, in general, much cooler in the 80's?>>It's not just you,cartoons were better back then,there are so few Quality animated shows these days:(

Firestorm:Click on my name to go to the System Shock 2 website,you can download the demo from thereBTW I was unable to get SS1 from my friend today(He'd gotten rid of it some time back)Guess I'm just going to have to wait for a re release.:(

COPS:I remember that show as well.

Oh well back to work for me tommorow, were did the weekend go:(

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Sunday, September 5, 1999 07:20:56 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Xanathar: Nope. haven't played the demo yet. Oddly enough, that WAS how I learned about System Shock 1.

Robby: Interesting... although I don't think I would use those names!

Love: Marriage is NOT for love. Marriage is for money, power, or control.
Love is what affairs are for!

Doug: Stigmata: 
Hell, I may see it because of WHAT they are saying about it. If they hate it, it MUST be good!
COPS: You remember that series WAY too well! <G>
Silverhawks: Who was the one that actually flew that ship?
From what I remember, wasn't Copper Kid alot like Lex?
(Never mind. Bluegrass.)

Spacebabie: COPS: Yeah! Longarm, and those really cool helicopters! That cyber-dog and the wierd-o with the machine guns in his chest.

Coyote: Yep. Dearborn. EAST Dearborn to be exact. The west end of town as a density closer to 3-4 people per house or less.
Anal as hell citzen's group, though.
Saturday Morning: You mean there are actually CARTOONS still on Saturdays? Last I saw, it was basicailly Mighty Morphine Powerless Rangers and Beetle Borgs paired against SEVERLY chopped bugs and tweety.

Cherry Blossom: Trust me, it's not by choice. The longest I ever went like that (<3 hours of sleep per night/day) was when I was delivering papers at 2am, working at Office Depot 12pm to 6pm AND staying up to be with people (Personally though, I almost wish I didn't stay up to be with people.) That lasted roughly a month, and I averaged less than 3 hours per 24 hour period. And yes, I almost did fall asleep. I am pretty sure that I DID fall asleep and was finishing my paper route asleep. When I walked into Office Depot (This was when I first worked there and it was half-way decent) I knew I looked undead.

SJ: Let me guess... you did your post in WORD first, right?

Speaking of hentai... I was browsing for adult Disney sites, found 5, and on one of them were 2 pictures of Demona. Those very pictures are also available in the Adult GFW.

<PRIASE//GIVER-OF-WILL> (Ok... so I am a Starseige fan.)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, September 5, 1999 04:50:43 AM
IP: 216.90.45.198

Nightwalker: "All is Full of Love" is the song Bjork has on the Stigmata soundtrack. Third best on the CD IMO (the best is Natalie Imbruglia's Identify).

More later, bye now.
Kitainia
Sunday, September 5, 1999 01:15:18 AM
IP: pool-207-205-149-100.dlls.grid.net

I promise I'll make a really long post on monday . Just a few quick replies.

Wilek and Xanathar-Thanx guys for trying to help, actuall deadly force was another one I had lined up to show her. But fate has delt me yet another bad card , that ep. was also lost to me.another one of my faves.

Firestorm-"All is full of love" by Bjork. That's actually the only bjork video that I've not seen . I've only seen pics of it. If you thought that one was great you should see Hunter. My fav.

Anyone that's interested-If you'd like to own all of bjork's videos from her first [Human behavior] to hunter you can find all 14 on Volumen [VHS]. And if you have DVD volumen has all 16 of her videos [released a few weeks after the VHS version so they added her two new ones]. I have the VHS version and haven't stopped watching it. You can find it at a Music near you.

Oh, and does anybody know which song Bjork has on the Stigmata soundtrack.

Another long one, not a title but a toss up. The longest one sylible word . Screeched.

Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters. See you all on monday.

P.S. !@$@!@%!@% I just remembered , did I miss TGC today or has it changed . I heard that It was supposed to come on today but couldn't find it in the t.v.guide. NNNOOOOOOOO!!!.

goodnight all.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, September 5, 1999 12:41:45 AM
IP: proxy-373.public.rwc.webtv.net

**No RP tonight either. My characters probably won't be doing much worthy of commenting upon until just before the fight with the cybersmurf...**

Fire Storm> <<Sounds like a DOOM cheat code. (DKSPISPOPD)>> It is, actually; the code was based on the game. There's a whole weird story there that I can't remember and I can't find anymore...

Jewel> <<And is it just me, or were cartoons, in general, much cooler in the 80's?>> It's not just you, my friend; they don't make them like this anymore. The 80s were the golden age of animation. Granted, the SFX weren't terribly advanced compared to the modern day, but that never stopped the shows from being incredibly kewl. I like to think that Gargoyles was made in the spirit of being a modern 'upgrade' to the grand old tales of the 80s--the same kinds of excellent stories and fascinating characters, with the interesting additions of an ongoing continuity and a literary bent. (To think this came from Disney. <G>) I believe the decline in modern animation can be primarily traced back to one Doug Funnie, may he burn in the eternal flames of perdition where his eyes will be plucked out by ravenous birds and his soul chopped into confetti and thrown onto a parade of serial murderers and network executives. Where was I? Oh, yes--It's about time we had a renaissance. Fortunately, such a thing may be in the works--anyone hear about a new CGI film called Final Fantasy? If it succeeds (along with Princess Mononoke), animation will finally escape from the shackles of 'childishness' to which society--Western society, at least--has condemned it. If it fails... <<They're even betting on what this mystery man is going to look like (so far, bets are on me meeting some 6'5" blond Norweigan named Sven).>> Will a 6'3" blonde gargoyle do just as well? ;P j/k

Doug> $<<Forfexx is a devout Christian? With Anoth I can see it, but Forfexx? Mr. Insane Gory Violent Man is a born-again?>> <L> It's hard for him not to be, when he saw it happen. ;) The whole Punisher bit started out as penance. He grew to enjoy it. >:) <<It appears so. The paper trail of their cash leads directly back to Marsh Industries, and beyond that to a company called Cloverleaf Corporation.>> Thailog didn't happen to inherit the thing from one Judge Doom, did he? <G>$ You seem to remember a lot about 80s cartoons. Oh how I envy that. ;) All I ever remember about shows from that long ago is a few vague details about the characters and general premise... <<Looks like I remember the vehicles more than the humans who drove them. :)>> Unsurprising; they were *extremely* kewl. I think I have most of them (albeit with a missing piece here and there). Of course, there were a lot I managed to miss. Oh, how I wish I'd been a more avid collector back then...

Princess Estra> <<pray for me guys, i'm going to a proffessional audition for a musical theater... i'm wanna be in "A Christmas Carol" one of my favorites!>> Kewl! Hope you make it. ^_^

Spacebabie> <<Oh I remember another cartoon COPS! There was one guy called Long arm who had this cool weapon.>> Hm...much of what I remember about that show involved what I believe was a member of the Sevarius family who had an exposed brain and insane glasses. :)

Sarge> <<Top Ten things you should't tell/ask the Mutates [...]>> ROTFL! :D

Coyote> <<What's worse about that accident is that it's on the very same highway that has had petitions filed about it, *urging* the provincial government of Ontario to widen it from its current width to four lanes each way (it's currently two.). It's one of the deadliest stretches of highway in Canada right now.>> Hm...then hopefully this accident will finally get the government to wake up and realize just how bad that highway is. <<Somebody please pull the execs' heads out of their @$$es long enough to see that their Saturday morning programming is dying a slow, painful and lame-ass death, PLEEEASE!!>> Oh how I wish that were possible, but I do believe it's too late--the ABC execs seem to have rammed their heads so far up that particular orifice that they have blipped themselves into an intestinal alternate reality. Look what they did to Reboot. Remember in 'The Quick And The Fed', where Bob got into a medieval-type game, and one of the game sprites almost pushed him into a pit full of spikes? ABC decreed that the makers of Reboot must never show a main character in that kind of mortal danger again. I swear by the Triat. What fools these mortals be.

SJ> <<His use of angels and demons as actual protagonists/antagonists has influenced me>> I haven't read those books, but I do hope to incorporate several good and evil angels into my own ficverse. :)
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, September 5, 1999 12:35:57 AM
IP: tnt-1-233-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Lex Atello- I *did* do a gargs/TMNT crossover, but I never typed it out. Its in a notebook somewhere, and the world is better off if it stays that way.

Those whose football teams have won- Congrats!

Long movie titles- To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar? Thats 8 words...

Top ten animated cartoons? Hmm... American and otherwise... Only 10 is tough... My list starts off the same as Coyote's...
1.Gargoyles
2.ReBoot
3.Beast Wars
4.Slayers/Slayers NEXT
5.Batman: TAS
6.Dragonball/Dragonball Z
7.Sailor Moon (Japanese version only)
8.Robotech/Macross
9. Sonic the Hedgehog (The Good Saturday Morning one!)
10.The Critic

My list is based on how determined I was to catch every episode, if I have a lot on tape, etc. etc. The Tick for instance did not make the list as I haven't a single episode on tape. I don't have the Critic on tape either, but as one of the greatest comedy series ever, it deserves it. (Pinky and the Brain while good I can't watch indefinatley, while I still get a kick out of Critic reruns.) Swat Kats didn't make the list, only because every episode is the same. (Great show tho.) Road Rovers came REAL close, but it only had 13 episodes, and 3 or 4 of those were pretty lame... Pirates of Darkwater loses out because they never finished the series... I could go on and on. I have something more along the lines of a top 50...

COPS- I was just thinking the other day about a show with characters named Bulletproff and Miss De Meanor, and for the life of me I couldn't remember what it was!

Princess Mononoke- I have been looking forward to this thing since like a year and a half ago when I first saw previews...

SJ- To answer your anime questions...

Big eyes: Inspired by Walt Disney's animated films like Snow WHite. Bigger eyes can show more emotion, though they got REALLY carried away in the late 80's and early 90's.

Hair coloring- Anime law 31- Law of Follicular Chroma Variabilty. Any color in the spectrum is considered a natural hair color. This color can change without warning or explanation.

Real answer- Usually stories are done in black and white. Hair is left colorless since almost everyone in Japan has black hair, and its a waste of time to color it in. Upon becoming animated or reprinted in color, editors have hair colors made wierd colors to distinguish characters. This has been done so long, it is now a tradition, and hair colors now represent particular character types. (Red meaning fiery personality for instance.)

Long legs- Thats just artist preferance, and it really doesn't happen all that much outside of Sailor Moon and various hentai.

Incidentally, there really is a list of anime laws which I've been adding to. I'm up to 51.

Robby
Sunday, September 5, 1999 12:20:24 AM
IP: spider-wg063.proxy.aol.com

***BEGIN RP****
SJ looked at the cloning tank, where inside the glass in the nutrient bath a tiny embryo was growing slowly....growing into a
fully grown clone of Jim Iza Noying. The young geneticist sighed. "Dern it, the process is still going too slow. At this rate, it'll
take several more hours, maybe even a few more days, before it's fully grown and ready to be 'born'."
"I guess we'll have to wait," Kari said.
"I wish we could, but with that psycho Smurf threatening to blow up huge chunks of the Earth, we don't have the time. We
really should get back up to the Avatar and join Wilek and the others again. If we're going to help in this fight, we'll need to
get up there and get prepared."
Kari looked at the growing clone. "Will he be okay while we're gone?"
"Sure. He may even finish growing. But he'll be fine....as long as the Smurf doesn't blow up Washington, that is. What I'm
worried about is, will *you* be okay? It hasn't been that long since your...you know, injury."
"I'm fine," she said with a smile. "Don't worry about me. Let's just get up to the Avatar and take out that little blue freak. I
want to get back here to my brother as soon as possible."
SJ nodded, and began to prepare the Scimitar for their return flight....
****END RP FOR NOW****

Attention Anime fans!!! The trailer for the upcoming theatrical film, "Princess Mononoke", is now on the net!!! For those
who aren't familiar with the movie, it was highly critically acclaimed in Japan--I believe it was the highest grossing film in the
nation's history till Titanic rolled around. Well, Neil Gaiman (author of "Sandman" and other cool stuff) adapted the
screenplay for the English-speaking audiences, and a cast of some of Hollywood's top actors/actresses (such as Claire Danes
and Gillian Anderson) have added their voices to it. It's coming out this fall, and is *not* a children's film. It is a beautiful epic
that is very mature and wonderful. Click on my name to go to the link to check out the trailer, but be warned: I believe you
have to have Quicktime 3 or better to view it.

Speaking of anime, I agree to an extent with Taleweaver. Anime can be really, really....well, weird. Like for instance, not to
be racist or anything, but how come nobody in those films has slanted eyes? They've got peepers bigger than mac trucks,
everyone of them! And what's up with the hair coloring? Nobody has naturally pink, blue, or bright green hair! Why are the
woman's legs totally disproportionate to the rest of their bodies? I need answers!!! ;)

Stigmata: Thanks to all of you who have given some support. I'm not against the Catholic Church, in fact I applaud their
stance on defending themselves from blatant attacks on them. But I do not like people like William Donohue blasting films like
Dogma or Stigmata over their content, when they haven't even seen the movies! I read a press packet Donohue and the
Catholic League put out a few weeks ago attacking Dogma for its content. There was not one, *not one*, first hand review
of the film. It was all "this person said this offensive thing was in there". Can they really be sure it was blatantly offensive
without seeing the movie? Perhaps the "offensive" quote or scene was taken out of context. The point is, I don't care if they
don't like films like Dogma or Stigmata, that's their right. I get angry though, when they condemn films like this without even
seeing them, so that they would know themselves what the content was like. Who knows, they could watch a film like
Dogma, and realize it's not an attack on the church, just a religious satire.
But, to sort of go into a whole other can of worms here, let's say these films are offensive to the Catholic Church. Is it really
right to try to make sure they *never* get aired (like they're trying to do with Dogma) when those films are free speech? Or
more importantly, like I said before, will these films really make people hate Catholics? I mean, it's like the whole "violent
movies make kids kill" nonsense. A few f***ed up kids, maybe, but most people, no. I think it's sort of the same way here;
even if these films were offensive, I doubt they'd encourage anybody else to hate Catholics. I don't like to think that the entire
American culture/society would change their views negatively towards Catholics just cause of a movie.

Doug: I'm actually looking forward to "Mystery, Alaska", for no other reason than the ultra-talented Russell Crowe. It's a
shame that he didn't get nominated in some way for his role in "L.A. Confidential", or that he hasn't made it to Hollywood's
upper echelon, while less-deserving people (IMO, folks like Tom Hanks or John Travolta) get 20 mill per crappy movie they
make. I'm hoping the movie does well, but I'm sure that Russell will get his "real" big break when Ridley Scott's "Gladiator"
comes out (Crowe is the leading man).
I sort of agree about Bruce Willis, though. I personally don't think the man has much talent aside from the Die Hard movies. I
mean, what, the Sixth Sense was supposed to show us he can act? The kid did a better job! Oh, and great payoff in that
movie, yeah yeah yeah. Oooo, scary. Bah humbug.

Cherry Blossom: I'm a fan of Frank Peretti! I've read about four of his books: This Present Darkness, Piercing the
Darkness, Prophet, and the Oath. All were excellent IMO. His use of angels and demons as actual protagonists/antagonists
has influenced me, and I hope to someday incorporate some of his ideas in my own fanfic. Of all his books, though, my
favorite was probably "Prophet". It's unbelievable stuff, very spiritual and emotional. Definitely worth reading. :)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, September 4, 1999 11:48:29 PM
IP: 207-172-41-101.s101.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

*glides out from the rafters* hi all!!

I'm hoping that I can stay in here regularly now wihtout any interference from my mom, but hey, oh well.

nightwalker< yes! you aren't alone at all, bcuz Lexy and I live in the same town and obviously she is a Gargs lover, so... you're really not alone.

Long titles< well, I had one a minute ago, but I forgot it. it was the Disney movie with the garbage man turned football hero? that was pretty long if I recall correctly.

Firestorm< how can you survive getting 3 hours of sleep per night? I did it lasst night and I almost am falling asleep on myself!! wow

random subject< does anyone know how the conclusion to the Miami vs. Packers game went?? I went to bed and not a single one of my friends could help that I know of, so it would be really nice if you could help out.I think it was on Thursday.

Frank Peretti< the first book I read by him was This Present Darkness and I couldn't believe how it held my attention!! Until then I couldn't get my attention to stay on a book for more than a day or two (granted it was usually enough to finish the book hehe) but it really held me.
and while a bunch of you are talking about christians, I was wondering, who are the christians??
Coyote the Bando< I'm sorry, you have lost me. I do know that quite often there is a girl called Rayvn that goes to Gargoyles Fan Website chat room quite often. sorry

well all, I'm going to bed then, bye

cherry blossom - [Chryblsm15@aol.com]
WI, US of A
Saturday, September 4, 1999 11:03:29 PM
IP: 98c9ef50.ipt.aol.com

*breaks out in wild applause* Jewel, that is the best comments on love I have seen in a long time. That line about getting a room, that's one of the truths in the universe in my book. Bravo!
Dark Overlord - [overlord@beer.com]
"Beautiful (gag)" Troy, NY, USA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 10:33:43 PM
IP: cm-24-29-39-150.nycap.rr.com

**enters the room, switching out the candles. Takes the time to stand in the center of the room and sing the Michigan State fight song as well as the obscene lyrics to "The Victors" (but not typing them out to keep the PG13 rating of the room intact, e-mail me if you're sick enough or hate U-M enough to want those lyrics) before sitting down.**

Good news ... like SOROW, my team won its season opener (Michigan State beat Oregon the other night). Bad news ... Michigan won *their* opener today (27-24 over Notre Dame).
Need to keep track of those two leading up to the beginning of October when they meet. :)

Menessah: Welcome to the loony bin! :)

Darwin winners: Ughhh ... oh Gawd, Darwin isn't just weeping, he's bawling his damn eyes out and revising "The Origin of Species" because he got it backwards!!

'80s 'toons: To be quite honest, I don't remember a *lot* about the 'toons, only that the two that I tried to follow regularly were the two based on Hasbro properties (G.I. Joe and Transformers). Of the oddballs, the one that I liked best was He-Man, mainly because that was the only one that I was able to catch on a semi-regular basis ... the others I was *lucky* if I caught an ep.

Cherry Blossom: Quite unconsciously, you've given voice to a thought I've been tortured by in these months that Ravyn has been incommunicado. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
**sighs, fixates briefly on the candle's flame, then continues**

Wilek: What's worse about that accident is that it's on the very same highway that has had petitions filed about it, *urging* the provincial government of Ontario to widen it from its current width to four lanes each way (it's currently two.). It's one of the deadliest stretches of highway in Canada right now.

Fire Storm: You mean Dearborn, right? Yeah, I know about that kind of crowding, I have an uncle that lives down that way.
And now that ye mention it, I *do* recall that January wreck ... in the middle of that blasted blizzard we got hit with at the start of the year, IIRC.

Princess Estra: Why limit yourself to simply American-produced 'toons? Here's *my* list ...

Top Ten Cartoons, Regardless of Nation of Origin:
1: Gargoyles (U.S.)
2: ReBoot (Canada)
3: Slayers/Slayers Next (Japan)
4: Batman Beyond (U.S.)
5: Pokemon (Japan)
6: Starship Troopers (U.S.)
7: Robotech/Macross (Japan)
8: Liquid Television (U.S./Canada)
9: South Park (U.S.)
10: The Critic (U.S.)

Shogun: I certainly agree with that sentiment ... too many toons on TV today are real-life based 'toons involving crudely-animated kids dealing with everyday life. It isn't an escape at all, like you'd think you'd want. I know, I know, Disney's execs are trying to pander ... err, market ... to pre-teen girls, but geez-o-pete, "Pepper Ann" is *the* most Gawdawful boring shows I've ever seen. The title character is a raging egomaniac whose life isn't any more deserving of spotlighting than anyone else's ... so how does she rate her own 'toon? Somebody please pull the execs' heads out of their @$$es long enough to see that their Saturday morning programming is dying a slow, painful and lame-ass death, PLEEEASE!!

**sits back in the lawn chair, fixating on the candle's flame once more this evening**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, September 4, 1999 10:04:46 PM
IP: 207.91.254.66

and whoever said it was right, in most cases, 80's toons were cooler than today's toons, of course there was more action and less of that "Doug-esque" CR@P (I say again, not you Elder, that OTHER Doug)
shogun raptor
Saturday, September 4, 1999 08:48:00 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net

Doug> you forgot a few names in both series, allow me to fill in the gaps
Silverhawks>
Villains> Moleculad (evil shapeshifter), melodia, yes-man, and the minotaur was named mumbo-jumbo, and if memory serves, Hardware looked a bit like Slithe and more like a goblin from the hobbit movie by rankin-bass (gee I wonder why *sarcasm*)
Heroes> Bluegrass (counterpoint to melodia) Hocus-pocus (the only black guy in the whole show) Moonstriker, and Condor (a new recruit and Stargazer's former partner, respectively)

and in terms of C.O.P.S. (central organization of police specialists)
Good guys> Mainframe(female hacker) Highway (?) and some sheriff guy
Bad guys> Doctor Badvibes, squeaky clean (big boss' lackey)
shogun raptor
Saturday, September 4, 1999 08:46:37 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

Todd: I read that Puck, Oberon, and Titania article in this month's Dragon. Thought it was very good, worked well for the play Midsummer Night's Dream. Not as well for Gargoyles, but that's not a problem. :)

Spacebabie: I remember COPS. Good show. The good guys were: Bulletproof (cool leader), Mace (tough guy), Long Arm (you're right, he did have one cool weapon!), Barricade (broke doors down), Bowser and Blitz (animal master and his K-9), some smart investigative guy whose name I can't remember, and a girl copter pilot called Barrage. Others too but I can't remember who they were.
The Bad Guys side had a crime boss aptly named Big Boss, his four main goons (Berserko, Rock Crusher, Turbo, and Miss De Meanor), and a female cat burglar called Nightshade.
That show definitely gets my award for cool names.

I remember the names for Silverhawk too. Let's see, there was...
Good Side: Quicksilver, Talyhawk, Steelwill, Steelheart, Copper Kid, Flashback, Backlash, Commander Stargazer.
Bad Side: Monstar, Sky Shadow, Buzzsaw, the minotaur (can't remember his name), Hardware (orc with toolbox of tricks), Windhammer (other orc with big spear that could shoot tornados), Poker Face, Timestopper, and some other guy (forgot who he was). Have I helped bring your memories back? :)

Sarge: Welcome back, and thanks for those hilarious mutate jokes.

All for now, later.
Doug
Saturday, September 4, 1999 08:09:39 PM
IP: pool-207-205-144-132.dlls.grid.net

Where have I been, WHERE have I BEEN? Well technically I was off having a fun filled weekend right before labor day starts and hell breaks loose. Sure my B-day is tuesday, but labor day just means work right after. Work Work Work.

I was playing my friends playstation, Monster Rancer mostly. Okay game but I rather get Pokemon for my N64. I've also been going to many fairs around the state of Vermont!

It took me awhile to finnally load this up, and then the computer waited five minuets until I could read anything. So I've decided to get rid of this junk. I've also decided to hire some gargoyles to destroy it.

They[the gargs] of course are from my stories which I haven't put up yet, but hey I like to add a little RP here and there.......

::two gargoyles come out with the large Macintosh, one is a maroon colored with black hair, and the other is pure white with pink eyes and glasses. Picking it up they throw the computer to the ground and start ripping it up::

Now while they polietly shread that I will continue with the other things.

Top-Ten after Comment room Wipe-out!!>> I came in here and read from the beginning. I'm going to make a competition of this top ten....see ya there.

::The white garg throws a processor into a window shattering it as they continue growling and shreading::

MY top-ten>> oh I'm pleased you like them. I use to have many of them, but they were burned after a school year when I took my binder and threw it into a stove. So sometimes I make them up at the spot, other times I just write them ahead of time.

::The gargs starts using a Gilloutine against the coumpter's mouse, beheading it::

Here's another top ten

Top Ten things you should't tell/ask the Mutates.

10: (this comes from Elisa) Hey guys I'm trying to get Cagney healthy, is dry food better, or wet food?

9: Claw can you recite the Anicipation Proclomation?(I probably didn't spell that right)

8: (this comes from Diane) Don't make me neauter you son!

7: Guys, you can come out now, that dog is gone!

6: What do you MEAN you only eat mice?!?

5: I know you can't help it, but hissing at Bronx won't help.

4: You don't have to jerk your head every time a car goes by!

3: This happens every time I bring you to the park! You run after the birds and chase the squirles!

2: I don't CARE how sweet you sound when you purr! I'm not petting you Fang!

1: (This comes from Hudson) Talon, I can't watch tv and have you curled up in a ball on my lap at the same time....

_______

::The keyboard is thrown into a table denting it as the two gargoyles begin using knifes and automatic guns to disentigrate the computer::

Well I'll be trying to catch up later. See ya!

::The maroon garg walks over with a pile of dirt and hands it to Sarge:: Thanks Dan.......

Will: Wasn't ye'r tax program on that thing?

::you hear cursing as the light fades out::

Sarge, If there is more than six typos he's probably typing with a straight Jacket on.....
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 07:29:21 PM
IP: spider-tn024.proxy.aol.com

Special note to all "Gargoyles" fans who are also interested in AD&D. In the September 1999 issue of "The Dragon", there's going to be an article on how to handle the faerie-folk from "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (Oberon, Titania, and Puck) in AD&D. It will no doubt contain a different take on these familiar characters from the one that "Gargoyles" did on them, but you still might find it interesting. Just thought that I'd let you know.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, September 4, 1999 07:15:48 PM
IP: 216-88-191-15.dialup-stl.primary.net

OOPS this is the right color....all that nostalgia
Spacebabie
Saturday, September 4, 1999 05:11:33 PM
IP: ts003d21.orl-fl.concentric.net

::Sniffs:: you guys are brining up happy mamories of the past with all these old cartoons.

MASK...I remember that one I remember the good guys base transformed from a Gas station to a battlestation

SilverHawks.. yeah I remember that one too the main villain was named MonStar and he had a bunch of wierd cronies, like this minotaur and this guy with a real pokerface.
and their was this reoccuring cabby guy too.

I guess I also watched the real girly cartoons as well
She-Ra.My Little Pony,and Rainbow Brite.

Does anybody remember the name of this one cartoon. the premise began with the good queen dying in a parrel dimension and her enchanted horse carries her baby daughter through the gate towards our dimension and left on a single man's doorstep, and later when she is like 11 or 12 she visits her old dimension to help there. And there was this witch who had these little goblins and these evil spectors.

Oh I remember another cartoon COPS! There was one guy called Long arm who had this cool weapon.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 05:09:41 PM
IP: ts003d21.orl-fl.concentric.net

Doug> Thanks for the comments. I personally think Survivor's Guilt was the best Freelance story so far. (I hope the upcoming trilogy I'm working on will be better)

(I'm sneaky with those shamless plugs, aren't I?)

Brigit Glorianna Ahearn (The Woman of Many Names) goes by Brigit in 'real life' (ie, that's what her adoptive parents would call her). Her stage name is Glorianna. Record company executives, reporters, and most other people shorten that to Anna. I thought about working in Glory somewhere, but decided she was confusing enough already. :) Episode three is about as bad as it should ever get with multiple names for Brigit. I tried to keep it as simple as I could, but the difusion of her identity is one of the major aspects of her character. As she develops, she will eventually have to decide who she really is, the persona she plays on stage, or the person she is when she's at home. The world will be pulling her one way, and her personal desires will be pulling in another. Then there's yet a third direction that she doesn't even know about..
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 04:48:03 PM
IP: pppa45-fortworth1-3r775.saturn.bbn.com

hello everyone! it's memorial day weekend? or is labor day? oh well, it's a day off anywayz!

today, in complete irrelevance, i'm going to list the best American Cartoon shows on Television (fanfare)!

The Ten Best American Cartoon Shows on television (or at least in syndication!)

1. Gargoyles (who's surprised?)

2. Rocko's Modern Life

3. Pinky and the Brain

4. The Simpsons

5. Home Movies

6. King of the Hill

7. Futurama

8. Animaniacs

9. Rocky and Bullwinkle

10. Batman (not Superman, i hate Superman!)

if you disagree, well, bully for you! write your own list!

as for my own life, well, pray for me guys, i'm going to a proffessional audition for a musical theater... i'm wanna be in "A Christmas Carol" one of my favorites! i have a one minute monologue (one of Puck's speeches from "A Midsummer Night's Dream) and... well, i'm working on the song i need. i really hope i get in!

****MY FIRST RP!****

*fanfare*

A girl with long black hair, violet eyes, and pointed ears appears on a random street corner somewhre in the world. She's wearing a long, flowing white blouse and green skirt and a golden crown. She carries a backpack and a pair of headphones hang from her neck, a CD player clipped to her skirt.
"I can't believe Dad kicked me out," she mumbles, holding out her thumb.

****RP IS DONE*****
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
*LIMBO*
Saturday, September 4, 1999 04:47:47 PM
IP: 98adf7a3.ipt.aol.com

Forgot something.

SOROW: Congrats on winning your game. :)

Later.
Doug again
Saturday, September 4, 1999 03:27:38 PM
IP: pool-207-205-151-216.dlls.grid.net

**RP STARTS HERE**

Tom lowers his rifle and nods at Kaioto. "You're welcome." "Fools!" Galante's head roars at them. "I am invincible now! My soul may be in Satan's hands, but I have been given great power for it! You can never defeat me!" "Shut up," Tom snaps, kicking his head through the open rift like a soccer ball. The dark portal closes behind Galante, and all the remaining Bone Devils vanish instantly. "Nice work," Kaioto tells Tom, the Schoolgirl Scouts nodding in agreement. "No problem," Tom smiles. "I'm just glad you were to help eliminate those two." Suddenly a loud horn honking from outside interrupts them. "What's that?" They rush outside to find Shogun's team watching as a gray VW Rabbit swings into the hotel parking lot. "You guys are still here?" Tom asks Shogun. "Why didn't you come help me?" "We were about to," Doc Congo assures him, "but then we got knocked out and these other people showed up." "Oh." The Volkswagen suddenly stops in front of them and a familiar figure hops out. "Mr. Miller!" she shouts, instantly recognizing Tom. "I thought I might find you in Akron." "Agent Ripowski?" Tom asks. "What are you doing here?" "It's a long story," Janice answers. "We must hurry." She points at her car and the other vehicles around the parking lot. "Get your autos and follow me. I'll use my cell phone to explain on the way!"

**END FIRST HALF OF THIS POST'S RP**

Hi everyone. Happy Labor Day weekend! Hope you don't have too much homework to do over it. Kit and I have been lucky, but others might not be. :( Oh well, on with the post.

Fanfic Progress: Finally I'm up to the last big battle with Taro's forces. Part 2 of Protected Species should be done in another week and a half (work's unfortunately proceeding slowly due to school).

**WEEKEND MOVIE SPOILERS AHEAD**

Kit and I saw a couple of very good films last night. Here are our reviews and recommendations.

Chill Factor: Forget Phantom Menace. Forget Wild Wild West. Definitely forget Universal Soldier- the Return. This is the most enjoyable action smash of the summer. Not only that, it has a great plot with only a few holes and I've only seen one action flick (The Rock) with better defined and developed characters. Nice effects and preformances as well. Fitting they saved the best summer action flick for last, huh? 9/10, thumbs up. Go see it, you will not be disappointed. <grin>

Outside Providence: This movie was also great. Before I saw it, I thought the Farelly brothers could only make drivel full of dumb toilet humor like There's Something About Mary (Yes, I know a lot of people liked that film, but we didn't, excuse the personal opinions). This movie was much better than it in a number of ways. It had much better script and plot, way more interesting and well-developed characters, and fortunately never resorted to stupid toilet humor in order to get attention and get its message across. Great preformances from Alec Baldwin, Amy Smart, and the actor who played Tim (forgot his name). Also had a perfect soundtrack. Definitely go see this movie, just be aware that it is suffering from false advertising. The Farrelly brothers may have made it, but it is not their usual fare (thank goodness!). 10/10, thumbs pointed up at the Eyrie's top.

**WEEKEND MOVIE SPOILERS END**

Love: Congrats to all in here who have found it. To those who haven't, good luck finding it soon. Thanks to all, especially SJ, Jenna, Kaioto, and Jaden, for the good posts on the topic. I will remember all your words about love as I continue to deal with Kit. :)

Avalon Mists: Good job on it, Christine, and all my other fellow contibutors. Liked the cartoons and pics a lot, especially the art contest ones. I was a bit disappointed at the lack of good fanfiction in this issue, though (Beth of Both Worlds was the only story I really enjoyed, the others were IMO mediocre or not that great). Still a pretty good issue, 7/10.

Green Baron: I too would be willing to take a Political Science class from you. Good luck teaching one someday. <grin>

David G: Read Freelance 3 and enjoyed it. I agree with you about readers who give stars and no other feedback. (They should send more, at least something verbal!) Don't know why the guy gave you two stars, I give you four of them. Great plot and development on James (liked how you filled in his past) and Glory (that's what I'm going to call the woman of many names :). Nice bits with the Pendragon cast too. Hope they all get together again some time, and looking forward to Hot Lead and Coldsteel.

Jewel: Glad you got out of that bad relationship. <sigh of relief> Sorry to hear it's soured you to the idea of love, though. Oh well, from some perspectives, you do make good points.

Arianna, Estra: Congrats on surviving your first days of school. Hang in there, there's a lot more coming. :)

Once Bitten: I remember that movie. It's my favorite of Jim Carrey's earlier flicks. Especially like the ending scenes. "I think I have created a monster." <girl kisses him and pulls him back down into the coffin> "Shut up." L

SJ: I too envy you for that Criminal Justice course. <sighs> Why can't UT offer one like it? It sounds so interesting and exciting. Maybe when I get on the Austin Police force I can talk to the chief and he can talk to Dr. Faulkner (UT's president) and they can get something like it set up for us. Have fun in that course, man. Hope you have a great experience and do well.

I also agree with you about Stigmata, which I am going to see no matter what the extreme religious bozos say about it. It looks like it will be an interesting movie, with cool plot and characters. The soundtrack is also wonderful (listening to it right now), especially the David Bowie and Natalie Imbruglia songs. Stigmata should definitely be a better movie than some that are coming out this fall. Especially Mystery, Alaska (If I have to sit through its preview one more time...) and Story of Us (don't get me wrong, I like Bruce Willis and Michelle Pfeiffer, but the fact that this movie has even been made says awful things about our view of marriage in the modern age. Last night Kit and I were proud to vandalize a movie poster for it outside a theater. Under the movie's slogan "Can a marriage survive 15 years of marriage?" we used a permanent marker to write and underline yes.).

Wilek: $ Forfexx is a devout Christian? With Anoth I can see it, but Forfexx? Mr. Insane Gory Violent Man is a born-again? It's hard to swallow, and yet for some reason I am not surprised. <grin> $

Silverhawks: I remember that show too. Liked it a lot. Especially the cool-powered bad guys. The good guys had nice powers and character development too. There's a lot of Quicksilver in Moro (from Protected Species) and Flashback in Seth and O'Neil. General Byron Nordstrum, who will be the commander of US Forces under President Nance in my fanfic saga's upcoming Apocalypse War, is also somewhat based on Commander Stargazer and Steelwill, my two favorites of the Hawks.

Mask: Ah, another show I liked. I remember it very well, used to collect most of its toys. Talk to me if you ever want to recall details from it, Mandi. I remember a lot. To prove it:
Good Guys- Matt Tracker (drove the Thunder Hawk, car that became a jet), Gloria Baker (part of my inspiration for Nikki, she drove the Stilleto, a car that could become both a coptor and a plane), smart tough guy (drove the Rhino, a big truck that became a tank), and funny guy (drove the Condor, a helicopter/motorbike. Helped inspire my fanfic character Zack).
Bad Guys: Called Venom. Miles Mayhem was the leader, he drove a jet that could become a helicopter. They also had a cool tank/truck called the Onslaught (yes, that's where we got the Ravens' truck's name!).
Looks like I remember the vehicles more than the humans who drove them. :) That's all I can recall for now. Thanks to you and others for the interesting crossover ideas. (Some of them I may write, <grin>

Frank Peretti: I've read that guy and I agree with Cherry Blossom. For a fundamentalist Christian writer, his work is very cool. :) Some of the main demons in my fanfic saga (including Tiamat's friend Cantrum but not the Herald of Destiny Tainethal) have been inspired by his bad guys. (Note- both of the above characters will be introduced in Season 3.)

Longest Title: For a Wayans movie. "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood." It wasn't a very good movie.

Hmm, guess that's all I came to say. I'll be going now. Later, ppl!

**RESUME RP**

The small group of vehicles heads out with Janice's Rabbit in the lead, followed by Tom, Kaioto, and the Scouts in Jammer's station wagon and Shogun's team in their van (note- I assume you guys are staying with us for now. If not, take your characters away please). "So what's the deal, Agent Ripowski?" Tom asks via cell phone (which he and her are endangering their driving by using as they go). "Well," she says, "the other Ravens have been kidnapped." "We know that," Shogun says through his van's speaker cell phone. "Tom also told us that you're their former government liasion. Do you know where Doug, Kit, and everyone are now?" "Yes," Janice replies. "They're at Area 51-A, being held by my boss, Assistant Director Kincaid of the FBI. If you follow me, I will lead you to them now." "We're following you," Tom says, "but I'm wondering something. I know Kincaid has been trying to capture us so we won't endanger civilians in our quest to defeat Thailog and his forces. I thought you supported him in that." "I do," Janice declares, "but that's not all Kincaid supports. Recently a couple friends of mine in the FBI's Internal Affairs Division uncovered evidence that someone has been giving him extra money. I did my own investigation and discovered that Kincaid is the head of a faction in the Bureau that believes in capital punishment for virtually all crimes. They were responsible for what happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge." "And let me guess," Tom says. "Now they're in Thailog's employ." "It appears so. The paper trail of their cash leads directly back to Marsh Industries, and beyond that to a company called Cloverleaf Corporation. I traced the owner of the latter, and found out his name is Alexander Thailog. An alias our adversary has used before." "So let me get this straight," Congo says. "You found out your boss is Thailog's spy in the government. So now you're betraying him to us." "Correct. I'm also going to help you free the Ravens. They are the best people around able to stop Thailog and I want them to be able to do so. On top of that, I can not stand to have a misguided traitor like Kincaid connected at all to the FBI." "Then, Agent Ripowski," Tom nods, "we accept your help. Let's get on to Area 51-A quickly. I hope Kit and the others are alright." The others nod in agreement, Kaioto and the Scouts giving silent prayers.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, September 4, 1999 03:26:36 PM
IP: pool-207-205-151-216.dlls.grid.net

SJ: I think Thai boy's death is definitely up there on the list of "unpleasant ways to die." I mean, euuuuuuuugh.

MASK: Oh, I remeber that, too! And is it just me, or were cartoons, in general, much cooler in the 80's?

Arranged Marriages: I actually think these are a good idea. Hell, if someone wants to take the time (and therefore save *me* the time and aggrivation) of trying to find someone just so I can have kids in a few years (my 28-Rule: I'm having a kid before I'm 28), great. I agree with Sevarius Jr: We focus too much on the infatuation aspect and ignore everything else. That's part of my personal; problem with the idea of <romantic> love: we focus on one aspect and forget that there are many different emotions involved.

Anti-ROmantic: Me? Not an anti-romantic? That could have been argued, oh, about 2 years ago, but not now. When I see my friends getting all coo-ey with their men, I feel my stomach cramping. When I see people sucking face, I want to scream, "OH, get a room!" I suffered through one Romance novel *once* (a friend told me I had to at least read one, and gave me one of her favorites. I was ready to be physically ill most o fthe time, and I remember screaming either, "Oh, for the love of God, that's not love, it's lust! I give the relationship 3 months, tops!!!!" or "Yeah, *that's* realistic." If I'm going to have to deal with brain candy (something that rots out your brain), I'll stick with Springer. Last Valentine's Day, I swore if I saw one more stupid heart I was going to go on a psychotic rampage. It all strikes me as being society's great illusion on itself, and completely hypocritical. For you people in love, great. I'm happy for ya. Really, I am. And I hope you enjoy your delusions and that you stay happy. But it'll be a cold day in hell for me.

<makes face> So, of course, my friends have a betting pool about how hard I'll fall and when. So far, it's up to a free dinner at a swank, overpriced restaurant of the winner's chosing. And no, I'm not kidding about the betting pool--I was there when it got started. They're even betting on what this mystery man is going to look like (so far, bets are on me meeting some 6'5" blond Norweigan named Sven). And I wonder whether or not my friends have something better to do than plot out a lovelife for me (They're in relationships, so they want me to be, too--that whole "Jumping off a cliff just because all your friends are" thing).

Jenna: Why would I be offended? Everyone has their own opinions, and I would have no right to be opinonated if I didn't allow other that right. =)

Oh, I forgot who this was supposed to go to, but it's the guy who ended his post on love my saying, "...What they seel us for $9.99 on the HSN." Reading "Grail" by Harlan Ellison. I think you'll like it.
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Saturday, September 4, 1999 03:18:26 PM
IP: host.pwcgov.org

What is wrong with me? I'm going to slap myself for not posting in four days. So sorry! Shame on me!

Football season> Last night was our first game of the season... AND WE WON! By a landslide 41 to 0! This is a miracle because Turner is known for only winning 5 games in 40 years! It was also my first performance as a drill team officer... I could go on and on how I totally messed up when I slid on my ankle, but I don't like to think "Oh, man! Everyone was watching me and I goofed up" cause I know that lots of people would want to perform in my place. At least I get 9 more chances.

Gunjack> Yeah, the Usual Suspects *was* a really twisted movie. I'll have to add that one. I love Kevin Spacey!

Spacebabie> GEM? Uh, I have no idea what that is? I think you wrote the wrong person. Sorry.

Lord of the Rings> I'm really gonna have to read that soon. I have all the books on my brother's shelf, so maybe next summer.

Gotta read Av Mists and vote for Garg contest. So much to do! I have a date with my cutie tonight, so I guess I better listen for the phone... OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Saturday, September 4, 1999 02:34:31 PM
IP: dll2b112-18.splitrock.net

Hey, lookie what I found. The random hero name generator! *clickie!*
Robby
Saturday, September 4, 1999 11:02:43 AM
IP: spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com

Hi all!!

80's cartoons:Yeah I remember M.A.S.K.(I've still got the toys around my house somewhere)it was a good show but I hated T-bob,his bad puns used to piss me off!,anybody else feel the same?,other 80's shows I used to watch were Starbazers,Ulyses 31(sp?),Pirates of darkwater,Astroboy(Remember that!:)),Robotech,Transformers He-Man,and Mysterious Cities of gold.

Night Walker:then do you think that Hunter's moon would be a good choice? I know that's going strait from beg. to end but I don't know if she's paying attention anyway.>>I'd go with what Wilek said and show her Deadly Force(That's the EP that got me totally addicted to Gargs,don't get me wrong I liked it from the begining it's just that Deadly Force just clinched it),I wish I could help out more but I don't have this kind of problem at home.

Menessah:Welcome,if your refering to new TGS ep's I think the new season will be starting up around mid September or October(I don't work for TGS so I can't give you anything more accurate,I'm sorry)

Fire Storm:Yeah, I got System Shock on a bargin label. REALLY good game. Damn near the best one I ever played, plot wise.>>Well I wen't looking for it in the city today as I said I would,unfortunately I didn't have any success*Slams fist on the table*guess I'm just going to have to borrow it off of my friend tommorow.BTW have you tried the SS2 demo,It's a large download(about 30-40 meg)but it gives you the complete tutorial and the first level from the full game.

Kaioto:Then there were the Go-bots *shudder*>>uugghh!!Please don't mention the Machine men(Every time somebody mentions it I get that God-awful title song stuck in my head>:()BTW Good Comments on Love and relationships.

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Saturday, September 4, 1999 08:14:34 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Ack 5Am post ... edits ... post post edits ...

"Unnecessary instinct" Necessary for the species to continue, unnecessary for the individual to live.

<Knowing a person means that your trust situations or co-dependency to keep a person from screwing you.> Try ... "That YOU trust" ... *sigh* Grammar helps ... *shakes his head*

<When someone lies to themselves about the abuse their spouse deals out to them, they are NOT thinking with Love, they are weaving illusion.> *shakes his head* Might as well just say the exact opposite of I mean, eh? *sighs again*

OK, time to sleep, night all ...
Toku Kaioto
Saturday, September 4, 1999 05:26:47 AM
IP: 1cust60.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

**RP Here**
The Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts, now decked out properly for a fight with hellspawned-devils, quickly join in the fight. Pressing what advantages they can, they are still only able to defeat a few on the skeletal monstrosities at a time. They're tendency to regenerate coupled with the danger inherent in further widening the breach has left the Scouts in a mad dash to rout devils out a few moments before the next pair arrive. The battles rage and spill across the room, but the devils are fresh and fight with un-living persistence, and the girls are being given great reason to appreciate their battle armor.
Meanwhile, Toku Kaioto bars the devil he's sensed out to be Galante from passing the door to pursue Tom. Again and again, katana laced with a faint golden fire, and bone-scythe laced with black lightening do meet. Then, the blade lock up, as both combatants lean into the lock, striving to overwhelm the other. The excommunicated bishop has put his diabolical and unholy strength behind his weapon, but the stern resolve on the Seeker's face tells of a strength bolstering his own will even as his conviction lends him a contesting power. They lean further and further together, until all that is in either field of vision is their adversary's straining sneer. Well, Kaioto could've sworn the skull was sneering.
"You. Can't. Win," the human in gray spat out as the very veins in his hands seemingly ready to burst.
"I can, I will, and I'll feast on your soul � once I'm done with the Black Raven who took away my life," Galante boasts casually, betraying no strain at all. Probably because his corporeal form had no muscles.
"He did nothing but strip away your illusions fool," the Seeker charged, bending himself onto the toes of his boots, taking higher leverage, "You sold your own soul, and now you serve Asmodeus eternally, with all the trappings your black heart has earned."
"I sold nothing!" Galante spat back out, rage betrays in his voice, "I served an ungrateful God. A disobedient flock betrayed me. The old Order has failed, and the world dies around us. Best to finish with the remnants and begin anew."
"With those who think more like you in the role of Master and Creator this time, right? Heard it all before," the been-there-done-that tone in Kaioto's voice is punctuated as he slips the weapons to one side for the split second it takes to bring his knee across and smash through the Bone demon's pelvis. Completing his step, Kaioto forces the collapsing skeletal structure further apart.
**Pause RP**

Robby: On Animaniacs, I'd have to say that Pinky and the Brain were my uncontested favorites. Right below them were Rita and Runt and the Goodfeathers. It kind of annoyed me, the show, since they were mixed in with smatterings of such crap as Buttons and Mindy and of course, Chicken Boo. *sighs* Then, just when you think they might have done something right, separating Pinky and the Brain, they throw in Elmyra. *sighs again* It is like TGC all over again, but with a comedy �

Mandolin: Yup, Wheeled Warriors � Sawboss etc � plant empath little girl nicked "sprout" and a Han Solo wannabe who was the only character I remember as decent. *nods* Mask � yup � another show with a car that's doors turned into wings when it needed to fly � a very 80s conceit. Then there were the Go-bots *shudder*

Darwin Awards: My personal favorite was the French guy who was so hell-bent on suicide that he tied a noose to a tree over a sea-side cliff, but only jumped once he had lit himself on fire. Did I happen to mention he leapt with a gun pointed at his head? He wanted to insure that it would be quick I guess. Well, to make a long story short *ignores the choruses of "TOO LATE"* he jumps, pulls the trigger too late, and severs the rope with the wild shot. He falls into the sea, extinguishing himself. Rescuers rush to the scene and save him from drowning. Hours later, he dies in an emergency ward of a long, painful bout of hypothermia

Taleweaver: <Like Sevarius Jr. mention, love is something you work at. It is something that isn't some mysterious (and I'll risk it) divine force is put to motion. I'm probably the most contradictory dragon in believe in magic in everything from dreams to a sea breeze, but don't believe in magical thinking in romance. Fancy that, a magical creature, not believing in the magic of love. Probably bending a cosmic rule somewhere.>

Well, it depends on what kind of magic we look for. Being partial to clerics and spirituality, I've always identified magic as something internal. Even that which is Divine, I regard not as coming from the outside, rather, being nurtured or stirred to blossom from within the soul. Love is indeed something that is nurtured and stirred from seeds in the soul. One does not cast a spell ON someone to inspire love, but rather, enchants one's own life, and encourages others to awaken that power in themselves. Love can not be forced, which is why it is an internal magic, and thusly overlooked in the genre of fantasy where the mages bend elemental forces to their whims so they can call down bolts of lightening to obliterate pesky people.

Even Christ taught that lesson. "Go in peace. Your faith has healed you." Sometimes God's magic in our lives is not sent down from on high, as much as left sleeping inside each of us until a time comes where we are able to accept it, and let it grow out from ourselves. I like to think that God created us with everything we need to live well, if we only have the courage to unlock those gifts, and many times the support from others to find that courage.

Since I'm heading in this direction anyway �

LOVE: Love, like most things, is a delicate balance of all aspects of what it means to be human. When these aspects come out of balance, the True definition of love is lost, and there is no longer Love, but just something people mistake for it. First off, infatuation is not love. Second, lust is not love. Lust is simply an animalistic and basic unnecessary need. It is instinct (rather unnecessary instinct too) gratification. People who act stupid because they are lusting after a particular person are not in love. Lust is characterized by behaving in often a very base manner, or a very refined manner while still bluntly seeking a single goal, sexual gratification. Infatuation isn't really love either. Infatuation is about being in love with possibilities, fantasies about others that are mostly in your head. It generally contributes to tunnel vision and failure to come to grips with reality whenever the object of that infatuation is in range. It is characterized by the "Game" mentality of trying to win the object of that infatuation over, or the idea that a person is far more than they really are. Infatuation is a rather fragile emotional state.

Love, with a capital "L" is rather odd. It is an inherently spiritual state. It is a magic that manifest from within people's souls, with many manifestations stemming from one main root virtue: Compassion. Without compassion, there is no love.

Without compassion, there is no True Understanding of another human being, because one must care enough about how another feels in order to Understand, rather than know a person. Only when one Understands another person in a way deeper than a stranger/associate relationship can one truly develop a purely interpersonal trust. Knowing a person means that your trust situations or co-dependency to keep a person from screwing you. Understanding a person means you can leave them with a knife and your back turned because your have a grasp on their own values, as well as a respect for those values and the person's character.

With compassion, it is possible to love people of either gender, because friendship and brotherhood are extensions of Love just as legitimately as a couple's "True" Love. What distinguishes the Love between two people in a relationship from love of communities or brethren is the level of intimacy that is shared between the lovers. This does not necessarily mean physical intimacy, but more an extension of trust that reaches beyond what is typical in a friendship or brotherhood. Intimacy between lovers is motivated by a mating of souls, blending two people together to benefit both in many different ways. It also, however, makes baring the soul a requirement for the deeper levels of intimacy. This makes both parties very vulnerable, requiring extreme trust and honesty. Even friendship can make us vulnerable. We can trust men and women with our lives, and even some of our hopes, but in "True" Love, two people throw their lives onto the table, not just bodies, but hearts, souls, and mental well-being all at once, and all for broke.

Obviously, Loving relationships also blossom with the buds of infatuation and lust mixed in among the roses. Lovers bring their dreams and their desires into the trusting folds of "True" Love in order to have them cherished and fulfilled. Compassionate Love, however, does not require lust or infatuation to manifest or be worthwhile, even as "True" romantic love.

We human beings all too often define our universe by means of which illusions we choose to accept in our own lives. The main difference between Love and things mistaken for Love is that Love takes compassion as a facet of the Truth, while what is mistaken for love is a large web of illusions. Truth destroys illusions. When someone lies to themselves about the abuse their spouse deals out to them, they are thinking with Love, they are weaving illusion. Obviously, we humans are creatures who simply can't part with all our illusions and selfishness, even when we "fall in love," so we never experience Perfect Love, but we can come very close in "true" Love. All too often, many of us are more "in love" with our precious illusions (like an illusion of Love) than we Love ourselves and any of our fellow human beings.

Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians says it best:

"Love is always patient and kind; it is never jealous; love is never boastful or conceited; it is never rude or selfish; it does not take offense, and it is not resentful.

Love takes no pleasure in people's sins, but delights in the Truth; it is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope, and to endure whatever comes.

Love does not come to an end."

Obviously, I've never met a pair of lovers on the Earth who always behaved like that, but I've seen many who live their lives together, sharing with those principles at the core of meaningful, mutually fulfilling relationships for their entire lives. I've also seen families and even just unrelated communities drawn together closer in Love than some lovers and a whole lot of folks "in love."

Love is a very simple, beautiful, and easy thing to find. As with most simple, beautiful, and easily accessible things, human beings treat Love like a rainforest. At a moment's notice they bury its natural habitat under six-hundred cubic acres of concrete, steel, glass, and plastic. Then, when they want it, they go to a zoo and find a few sickly specimens of the rich life that once was. If there was something important to that rainforest, humans merely make an artificial substitute for it in a factory somewhere and mass market just that one piece, and call the experience love. Infatuation, lust, or just plain old dependency are to Love what herbal tree oils are to the experience of the rainforests. However, our society and modern age make it much easier to go into a drug-store and pick up some oils then to travel to South America or Africa to see the dwindling natural wonders of the earth. Then, they use a lot of clever hype and advertising to brain-wash you into feeling like you haven't been cheated.

I'll never be cynical about Love, just what Society tries to sell me in its place under the same name for $19.95 on the Home Shopping Network.

And you can quote me on that.

**Resume RP**
The effect of Kaioto's quick strike is not really enough to shatter a Bone Devil, however. Quite efficiently, the two halves of Galante's form right themselves, even with only half a backbone each. Lashing claws strike out from either side as the Seeker tries to turn around. He only gets to block one �
With the sickening sound of rending flesh and sinew, the blacked claws at the end of Galante's skeletal hands tear into the shoulder of the gray trench coat, and the flesh beneath it.
Swallowing his scream and quickly blocking off the pain, the Seeker redirects much of his energies to warding the supernatural toxins invading his body from attacking his heart. He stumbled back into the fold of the Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts, trying to right himself even as Galante's headless body reconstructs itself and presses its advantage.
Then, a rumbling blast, unnatural sizzling and popping sounds, and an unholy shriek of frustration. Kaioto focussed him dimming eyes on the form of the Black Raven Tom, standing in the doorway. Returned from the parking lot, Tom is carrying a plasma rifle. All that is left of Galante's body is a black stain on the ground while his head curses impotently from the floor.
**End RP**

Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 05:12:23 AM
IP: 1cust60.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Bijork: Saw a Bijork video on MTV|2, and I have to say I wish that my VCR was recording. REALLY cool animatronics!

Warpmind: Sympathy? Hmm... Well, you DO have my pity. i have a few 486/33's sitting in my basement at my parents house. Word is that my dad is using one as a Unix box.

Xanathar: Yeah, I got System Shock on a bargin label. REALLY good game. Damn near the best one I ever played, plot wise.

Lady Arianna of Annwn: Senior Year: Hey, mine went REALLY wierd at some parts. I WAS able to get closer to most of my classmates, though. What happened was that one of my friends took a picture from another friend (All this took place at the second friends locker.) I took the picture from the first one to give it back to the second one, then he decked me! I gave him a look that said "What was that for?"
Soon after, everyone was being nice to me (I was able to get some Tylenol from a student. The office WILL NOT give any!) and I got a hug from one of the (very drunk) hot girls in school. After that, I started to hang a little with everyone in my class. I had always been well known, but during senior year, more of them talked to me.
(Point? Whats that?)

Spike: May you children have kids that are just like them!
(On that note, I don't think I want to have kids from what my parents tell me about me. If they are ANYTHING like me, I swear I would kill them. ;)

Ironwolf: GEEZ! And I thought I was a LITTLE bad.
But I have to agree with you about girls and boys. I was a terror when I was little and mellowed out in my teens. My sister... Well... to my parents she was sweet, anyway.

Mandolin: Ya know... I could actually see a Power Rangers/SG1 crossover working.

Jenniren: <Yeah, it was on now, so why didn't I feel it before? I still haven't figured that out. >
Well... Lets see... If you wern't properly grounded and it was a high voltage, low current (It sounds like a static electricity charge), you wouldn't have felt it. Were you wearing shoes? The charge was probally building in you. Electricity is wierd that way.

Theresa: <Love. Let's not forget the other dark side.> Eeek. I know people like that.

Coyote: *62* cars? Geez! I thought it was only about 14! Ohmygawd!
ALMOST as bad as that pile up on I-75 last winter. Remember? over 100 cars involved and THANKFULLY no major injuries.
The Fog: Hell, I looked out my front window as I was making bread and I though another house was on fire. (Ya know... come to think about it... a major house fire happens within two blocks of me at LEAST once a year. And no, I am not in a downtown area, but a suburban area with a population density probally higher than Detroit (AVERAGE of 14-20 people per house.)
Cyrway's "South Park Horrors": <Fire Storm shudders.>

Robby: Yep. Rocky Horror. No DVD that I can find.

'Puter problems: I am pretty sure it is the video card that I just bought. :(

SJ: Bizarre Gargs Crossovers: Hmm... Well, I am pretty sure they would KILL the Teletubbies and Banannas in Pajamas. (I am sorry. Those two looked like walking condoms.)
Darwin Awards: GEEZ! Well, at least it wasn't a fire hose!

Jewel/Wilek: Sleep Patterns: I remember someone vaguely telling me what "Normal" sleeping patterns were...
Lately, I have actually had a pattern! I am SO proud! Wake up (6pm) go to school, do reports/work crap, go to work, go to bed (3pm) wake up (6pm) go to school...

Wilek: <Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Piles Of Putrid Debris> Sounds like a DOOM cheat code. (DKSPISPOPD)

<ACKNOWLEDGE//SUBMIT>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, September 4, 1999 02:47:59 AM
IP: 216.90.45.165

Sorry for the 2X post, but I found a new Long Title--the 11 word title of the movie Can Hieronymous Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness? I am not kidding.
Me again
Saturday, September 4, 1999 02:20:30 AM
IP: tnt-2-129-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Does anyone here have the soundtrack to something called La Nouba? Extremely kewl stuff.

Warpmind> <<not to be disrespectful, but there are some SEVERE flaws in his theories.>> Don't I know it. (Random mutation will *debilitate* a member of any given species, not *improve* it...)

Jewel> <<Yes, it's far too early to be awake. But my biological clock seems to have set itself at the funkiest of all settings--I conk out at 10 pm and wake up at 5-somethig.>> Ugh, I've done that before. But *my* chronometer currently seems to be set to fall asleep at 6:00 AM and wake up at about 4:00 PM. Acckk. (Does ANYONE here have normal sleep patterns?) <<'romantic love' is a stupid and bad emotion for a myriad of reasons. It makes you stupid and lose touch with reality. I've seen more friends than I want to think about get treated like cr*p from their boyfrines, but they won't dump them because they "love" them...people who wouldn't take sh*t from anyone else take it and willingly from the people they 'love.' Likewise, how many women out there don't leave their physically abusive boyfriends and husbands because they "love" 'them? How many people have killed or been killed in the name of "love"? Any emotion that shorts out both a) common sense and b) the instinct for self-preservation, is not healthy.>> Er...this sounds like a co-dependency problem, not actual love...

Hi Ari! ^_^ Glad you could come here; a lot of people don't have that kind of time after going back to school. <<RL SUCKS!>> Amen, milady! >;) <<I'll e-mail you eventually...sorry I've been so long...>> No problem at all. School is a blight, no?

Christine> <<one of the eeriest things about those three numbers is that half the people you ask will instinctively, yet _wrongly_, think that 17+5=23.>> Although they're not far off (It's 22).

Aaron> <<That's one of the reasons I have to visit the park during G2K. I'm told they have a "Villians Store" in the park, stocking nothing but villians merchandise.>> Eh? Hm...I'll have to find it next year. Thanks for telling me about this! :D

Ironwolf> :O I'm amazed you're still alive after all that!

Stephen 'Coldstone' Sobotka Jr.> <> Hm...I like it. :) <> Hm...the weirdest crossover idea I ever had was a Timedancer/Titanic/Castlevania crossover which I have since discarded for being utterly moronic.

Mandolin> <<Anyone else recall MASK and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors?>> I do! I have most of the toys as well. (I have all kinds of old weird stuff.) I vividly remember a scene from Wheeled Warriors that would not have been allowed to be made today, namely the birth of one of the Borgish plant vehicle thingies: A large flower sort of swelled grotesquely and extruded a clearish blob with eyes and guts, which formed into whatever vehicle was needed by the bad guys. Try getting THAT by ABC's censors. Interestingly, the enemy forces--the Monster Minds, I think--had a rather spiritual bent in the European version of the show. The Black Light that apparently gave them their powers was some kind of dark god or somesuch. (I think, anyhow; my memory is rather rusty about all this and I could be wrong.) Why this wasn't incorporated into the US version, I don't know.

Coyote> <<There were at least seven deaths (hence the candles), over 30 injured people, and the accident itself involved ... **shudder** ... 62 vehicles, stretching a mile and a half on both sides of the highway. The accident was caused by quickly falling dense fog. It was aggravated by one of the vehicles involved ... a diesel hauler that promptly exploded on impact. One shot of the accident that's been played a lot on the news has been a *huge* burnmark stretching all across the highway, with five semi trailers sticking out of it. You have to take the news folks' word on it that there's 14 cars in the center of that burnmark.>> <shudder> That must me one of the worst accidents in American history...reminds me of the one that was caused by...er, you don't want to know... <<Cyrway's "South Park Horrors" (when Demona gets some good lovin' from Chef>> Er...<shudder> There's an image I don't need running around in my warped and fragile little mind...<<for a long time I considered it, and I still might do it, but I was thisclose to having G:CM cross over with ... ready for this one? ... "Bedknobs and Broomsticks." How, ye ask (Glad ye did! ;)? By having Paul Rollins show up. Only my version of Paul Rollins used the bedknob to transport himself to Avalon, where he chose to learn the ways of magic and is now a master sorceror.>> Um...heh...weird. :}

Nightwalker> <<But if maturity's the case , then do you think that Hunter's moon would be a good choice? I know that's going strait from beg. to end but I don't know if she's paying attention anyway.>> Hm...perhaps Deadly Force? <<What's the longest title you've ever seen for something.>> The one I can think of offhand: 8 words--the computer game Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Piles Of Putrid Debris (I am not making this up). I'm not sure where it can be found. I seem to remember encountering the soundtrack to a Monty Python movie with a really really long name, but I can't be bothered to remember the title. :)

Robby> <<Who DID put the "bomp" in the "bomp she bomp" anyway? And while I'm asking, who put the "ram" in "ram a lama ding dong"?>> Some mad scientist, I imagine, attempting to take over the world by rendering the entire population braindead through bad music. ;) <> Herc Stormsailer? I always kinda thought he was a ripoff of Micheal Garibaldi. <G>

Newcomers> Welcome! :D Soon, you will be liberated from the restricting taint of sanity, and join the ranks of the gleefully demented. There may be slight side effects, but don't worry, we have...contacts...in the judicial branch.

Menessah> <<Oh, yeah, and could anyone tell me when the next current episode will show?>> Um...<blink> No idea.

SJ> Woah...<applauds> Amazing little essay there. ^_^ <<Or how about the impossible/improbable "Gargs meets Star Trek meets Veronica's Closet meets Dick Tracy meets Huckleberry Finn meets Masterpiece Theatre meets B.J. and the Bear"?>> Hey...it can be done...oh, wait, no it can't; 'Time's Arrow' took care of that... Thailand Darwin Winner> I remember reading about that. As I hear it, someone heard the explosion and applauded, thinking it was fireworks.

Spacebabie> <<What drugs are SevariusJr on????? I want some!>> Only the heady drug of insanity, child; and as one of us, you already have it. :)
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, September 4, 1999 02:09:34 AM
IP: tnt-2-129-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Rico? Is this the same guy that was in the movie? Sorry I was about to turn the box off when I noticed this. The guy in the movie was Reiko. Rico=Reiko?

Now , goodnight all.

night walker
Saturday, September 4, 1999 01:55:17 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

Sevarius jr.-This is the kind of thing that pisses me off. I remember watching the Exorcist and hearing that the catholic church actually liked this movie. Or at least most catholic organizations. And you arte correct,SJ, I myself am catholic and I do not find this offensive, actually, I've been looking forward to this movie for a while . "It'll scare the hell into you". Most people don't even know what the Stigmata are. Anybody here know, well I do, they were actually the cuts that Jesus Crist had on his hands when he was crucified. They were in this very strange pattern. If anybody wants to see what they look like watch the exorcist. Linda Blairs' character develops stigmata after she's possesed.

Cherry Blossom-Really only two hours away? MMMMmmmmmm.... I have something planned for you. Not really, but at least I won't be the only one wanting a Gathering chicago.

New topic-Okay, here's my first topic , I hope no-one did this already but here goes. What's the longest title you've ever seen for something. CDs, books, anything. And type the # of words then the title,and were we can find it, I'll start off.

89 words CD title mtv online -news Fiona Apple
When the pawn hits the conflicts He thinks like a king what he knows throws the blows when he goes to the fight and he'll win the whole thing 'fore he enters the ring there's nobody to batter when your mind is your might so when you go solo , you hold your own hand and remember that depth is the greatest of heights and if you know where to stand, then you know where to land and if you fall it won't matter,'cuz you know that your right.

I seriously don't know how they're going to fit all that on a cd case , and what is everybody going to call it . Anyway it comes out nov 9. Okay, do you guys get how to do this?

I know I was about to write more but I'll save it 'til morning.

Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Saturday, September 4, 1999 01:43:44 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

****NO RP!!!****
Christine- I think it was working the first night it was posted, at least the parts I read.

Sevarius Jr-D'oh! I new it sounded familiar, but I kept drawing a blank.

That's all for now.
See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Saturday, September 4, 1999 01:35:01 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

hi all!
to all<
I was just wondering whatever happened with the Heather and Robby fund thing, I was kinda missing for the finale of that and I didn't see any posts from Lexy for a while, so if anyone knows can you please tell me?

love and romance< in my opinion they are two different things, love is commitment and your feelings about some person. and romance is the things you should have after you're married like midnight dates and glasses of wine together late at night to keep the spark still there. but hey, thats jsut my opinion from what I've witnessed in my life.
******long rant*****hehe******
to all< why is it that when someone is like 12-17 and they say they are in love, most ppl are thinking and sometimes saying oh thats just puppy love? or something like it. I don't get it!! its not fair!! can't younger ppl really fall truly in love?? hmm??? I admit, sometimes it is puppy love, but what if its true love?? I've heard of that too!! Each person should be able to make up there own descisons without ppl critisizing them about it!!. Its just not fair!! it isn't!!I mean if I went to work and met this guy, over time fell in love, but I was still only like 16, I couldn't come home and tell my mom that!! she'd probably say to me, sure hon ok. Lets just give it time. But if I was 20 she'd get all excited and say oooh, is he the one?? I mean come on!!!!
Sorry all, this is just a subject that I think is very very unfair
******end of long rant*************
ok, now hehe

ironwolf< you really put your parents through a lot!! I only hurt myself once and my parents had a fit!

Warpmind< I agree with you on that Evolving has a coupla flaws. one thing I always wondered was, when did each species mysteriously decide to stop evolving?? and how did they decide??

night walker< I don't live in Illinois, but I do live in Southeastern WI! I'm about 2 hrs away from Chicago.

has anyone ever read any boks by Frank Peretti?? Like Piercing the Darkness, or This Present Darkness?? I'm in the middle of the Prophet right now and loving every bit of it.

well, I gotta really get to bed now, bye all!!
cherry blossom
WI, US of A
Saturday, September 4, 1999 01:11:26 AM
IP: 98c8dcbe.ipt.aol.com

Just, um, a random post.. was reading about cross overs..

this post is to ROBBY: You said something about a gargs/TMNT crossover.. did you just use it as an example or did you actually _write_ it? If so, I'd like to read it. :) I'm prolly onna the biggest TMNT fans alive. ;) As you can tell from my name. O.o

HEH! THanks. :)

*bounces out*
Lex Atello - [lexatello@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 11:08:51 PM
IP: rcl015.reslab.nau.edu

My, my, my. I open my mouth and look what happens.
Spike> Children may put gray hairs on your head, but before you know it, they're on their way to college, getting married or moving to the other side of the ocuntry and you're left wondering where did the time go.

80's cartoons> Ah fond memories of the 30 minute commercials. I remember Silverhawks and Wheeled Warriors, but by the time they showed up here, me and my brothers were confirmed Robotech fans. It was one of the few shows that had a storyline, And they didn't do the cliche' ending immortalize by GI Joe of letting the bad guys get away. After the fiftieth time that happened, I started to wondered about that. The cartoons I remember fondly are Transformers, Robotech, Pirates of Dark Water (and by the way Stephen, there 20 seas on Mer, not 7)

That does bring a question to mind. Could someone explain anime to me. I've watched hours of anime; Akira, Neon Genisis, Lodoss War, and anything the Sci Fi channel would put on. I've watched, subbed and dubbed and I still don't get it. The imagery is excellant, but the story always flubs it at the end. I'm left shouting at the screen "What!" I guess that's why I disliked Sailor Moon and Pokemon, that and the tapioca for brains background cast. (How many girls in Japan have six foot long blonde ponytails. And yet no one put the connection together that Serena might have an alter ego)

Love and romance> I'm not offended. In fact, I encourage anyone to shut me down. I'm overall anti-romantic. For me Romantic is not just bodice-rippers, but the way we paint things. Like the way westerns romanticize the Old West. We, both individually and a society, paint things in the ways that bare no resemblence to how things are. Like the Good Ol' Days, (I remember the good ol' days, where we they?) Especially with matters of the heart, romantics still have it that love is some mystical force that comes out of no where. Like Sevarius Jr. mention, love is something you work at. It is something that isn't some mysterious (and I'll risk it) divine force is put to motion. I'm probably the most contradictory dragon in believe in magic in everything from dreams to a sea breeze, but don't believe in magical thinking in romance. Fancy that, a magical creature, not believing in the magic of love. Probably bending a cosmic rule somewhere.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, September 3, 1999 10:42:23 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.65.5.losangeles1.level3.net

No rP tonight...I'm too tired

What drugs are SevariusJr on????? I want some!

Nakeo Takuchi is the goddess who created Sailormoon. She started out with SailorV.. then SailorMoon. of course SailorV turned out to be SailorVenus. They way she draws is soo wow and I love the Manga(Japanese comic)is so pretty

does anyone remeber the Darwin award winner nicknamed Speedy?

Oh the evil entity DC stuck tonight
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76]
neither, here Nor, There
Friday, September 3, 1999 10:29:20 PM
IP: ts005d12.orl-fl.concentric.net

New dragonball eps- The 50 new episodes will go past the end of the Freeza fight, and past the Garlic Junior saga, and stop just short of Trunks. Keep in mind, the first 52 episodes of American Dragonball were actually the first 65 or so in Japan...

Today's Starship Troopers- The only thing I didn't like about this episode is that it took place before yesterdays! They screwed up the play order and my taping! Arrrg! Otherwise, this episode what great. It had personality, conflict, plot, characters actually shined! Plus, the gratitous amount of bug blasting wasn't the entire plot. Of course, the series doesn't seem to be focusing on Rico but on the cameraman...

SJ- Something to keep in mind about Sailor Moon. The original comic was written and drawn by a woman...
Robby
Friday, September 3, 1999 10:14:20 PM
IP: spider-ta086.proxy.aol.com

That last post was mine.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:58:56 PM
IP: 224.new-york-03-04rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

CHRISTINE - You wrote: [23 is one of the mystic numbers of the Illuminati ; ) Along with 5 and 17] and [I bet Matt Bluestone transferred to the 23rd Precinct on _purpose_ for just that reason ...]

Another thing to notice is that THE EDGE, the first episode in which Matt made his full appearance, was the 5th episode after AWAKENINGS.
Anonymous
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:58:03 PM
IP: 224.new-york-03-04rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Today I do my Dr. Ruth impression and talk about love!!!

Love and Anti-Romanticism: My my my, such cynicism coming from those so young! Forgive any offense I may make, but it seems as if some of us seem be less anti-romantic and more anti-love.
In the many psychology classes I have taken, I have studied love, and I feel I can give some explanation as to why we Americans are so screwed up in our view of it. I personally follow the style of a man named Robert Sternberg, who said love has 3 components (a triangle, if you will): intimacy, passion, and commitment. Intimacy is of course emotional, your feelings of closeness to another person; passion is the motivation aspect, where romance and sex comes in; and commitment is cognitive, dealing with how people view their relationships and their degree of commitment to them. I believe that the problem we have in America (and perhaps the problem some of us have with love) is that Americans stress only one component, just one degree of love--passion. Romance is all that matters; this, of course, is why most marriages fail, because studies have shown that after about 5 years, passion takes a slight nosedive. It comes back later on in the marriage/relationship (but of course, being the impatient generation that we are, no one wants to wait that long). Intimacy is often underdeveloped, and commitment is looked over completely; so, as soon as the romance is over, so to speak, people start packing suitcases and calling lawyers. This, of course, is not unique only in America, but that is largely how Americans view love. We expect it to be this whirlwind romance, like you see in them bodice-rippers with Fabio on the cover. It's supposed to be all hot sex and fun in the sun, but when that goes away (temporarily), people want to hit the street and start walking. That's largely perpetuated as well in the mass media, from movies like, say, the recent "Runaway Bride" or books, what have you. It's all about arousal, but surprise! Arousal fades over time. That doesn't mean you shoul ditch the relationship.
Some of the most successful marriages are actually those that are arranged. Most of us say, "that's horrible, I want to decide who I get to marry!" That may be the case, but let me explain why they're successful--commitment is largely the component stressed first. People are arranged to be wed, and they work to stay in that marriage. Often times intimacy and passion exist there already (as with a Indian friend of mine--she was arranged to be married, but she was totally in love with her husband-to-be), but often times if they don't right away, they do build over time. Somewhere along the way, American culture has embraced this sort of "romance-only" view of love, and as I see it, that is the main cause of our problems with relationships. Look at the divorce rate--people get all hot and bothered for one another, but take little time to develop good intimacy (which can last well into decades of marriage) or committment.
This saddens me, cause love is not something that should be so trivial. Love, as Lorien says in Babylon 5, is one of the greatest gifts mankind possess. I believe in love as given to us by God; but even an evolutionist can agree that love, at least to the degree that we feel it (with its numerous complexities and cognitive aspects), sets us apart from all other creatures. I don't believe that love has such a negative effect on our common sense or our survival instincts.....perhaps sometimes it's a good thing if it does. I know I'd rather die for a loved one, if it came to that, then spend my life totally alone and without the care or companionship of another.

"This is my commandment, that ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."--John 15:12-13

Scott: <<The topic was discussed in great detail on "Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher" last night. One member of the panel--a rabbi--was very vocal about on the subject of love/companionship... ...His idea of happiness is finding validation with other individuals,and he seemed to say that there was no other way to attain it.>> I would tend to agree with him. Humans are social creatures--without another human present, we can quite literally become miserable. This is why solitary confinement in detention centers is such a punishment--no contact with other humans, not even having the benefit of something live tv or a newspaper so you could simply *read* about other humans--it can have serious effects on the human psyche. I would say that that rabbit is largely correct, we do seek validation from others, in more ways than you would think. Look at the clothes you're wearing--are they the latest style? If they are, you're seeking validation there. I would agree, and say that most of the human population of this world would be unhappy, at least on some level, without someone else, a significant other. It doesn't have to be a lover, it can just be a friend or a family member, but we all need somebody sometimes. I do believe there are other ways to attain happiness, and I know that there are those individuals who can go through life needing noone and being fairly content....but I do think most people do need somebody else in their lives in order to be happy.
BTW, I usually don't agree with Bill Maher (I think he's a pretentious bore), but he did have one good point last night. He was sort of criticizing all the various lawsuits against tobacco companies. I myself am no lover of the tobacco industry, but Bill does have a point--everyone *knows* what smoking does to you, so why all the lawsuits for a condition they brought on themselves? It's like drinking Drano knowing it'll rot your throat, then suing the company for selling it to you. More god**** nonsense if you ask me.

Jenna: Good comments on love. You definitely seem to have a wonderful relationship with your husband :). It's good to see that you didn't fall into the same trap as many others do today by focusing only on passion (although I'm sure it's present ;) in your relationship, but instead emphasized good intimacy and committment. :-D
And if I may ask, what don't you like about the LOTR cast? Some fans have voiced complaints about how they don't feel Elijah Wood or Sean Astin are right for their parts, or that Stuart Townsend is too "pretty" to play Aragorn, etc. What do you not like about the cast?

Starsinger: Actually, stalking and obsession can be classified as not truly love. Sternberg defines those circumstancesit as a combination of the passion and committment aspects of the triangle, which basically means you have an individual who doesn't necessarily "love" another, but is infatuated with them and has the patience to committ their lives to fueling that obsession. I don't count it so much as the dark side of love as I do the dark side of human nature.

Mandolin: Hey, I remember MASK! I used to have some of the toys too. Kinda funky show, what with the heroes and villains using their masks to shoot laser beams or make their vehicles transform. But it was kind of fun to watch.

Stigmata news: It looks as if William Donohue of the Catholic League is at it again. He claims that the upcoming "Stigmata" movie is an attack on the Catholic Church....just like Kevin Smith's Dogma is supposed to be. Now, I know that there are some Catholics in the CR, and I greatly respect them. But the thing that keeps bugging me--HE HASN'T SEEN EITHER OF THE MOVIES. All he's going on is heresay. I myself am a Christian, but I prefer to actually watch something that is potentially offensive to my religion *before* I begin to make disparaging remarks about it. Then I can decide for myself. Take Preacher, for instance--the whole point of the book is for Jesse Custer to find God and kick his ass. I'm a Christian, I don't find that offensive, cause I realize it's just fiction and doesn't really do a damn thing. I doubt the Preacher comic is gonna turn anyone into a satanic, Bible-hating atheist, unless they were already leaning towards that way to begin with. It just upsets me when people like Donohue blast a movie or book or what have you without even really knowing what it's all about.

Bizarre Gargs Crossovers: "Gargs meet Teletubbies"....."Gargs meet Bananas in Pajamas".....Or how about the impossible/improbable "Gargs meets Star Trek meets Veronica's Closet meets Dick Tracy meets Huckleberry Finn meets Masterpiece Theatre meets B.J. and the Bear"?

Sailer Moon: Yes, young buxom teenage girls wearing super-short schoolgirl outfits fighting evil. And we have lesbians involved. This proves my theory that Japan is an even hornier nation than we are....

***WARNING: POSSIBLY OFFENSIVE STUFF AHEAD!****
Darwin Awards: My favorite Darwin award was the one that went to last year's winner, a teenage boy from Thailand. Apperently, in Thailand, it has become a favorite....um, masturbatory practice.....amongst young folks to.....God, I'm limited by a PG room.....*insert* an air hose into a certain bodily orifice (I really don't think I have to explain the exact location). It's supposed to give some sort of high to you while you.....take care of business. Well, most folks use ordinary old bicycle pumps. This teenage kid bragged to his friends that he wanted to use the air hose at the local gas station.....which, mind you, have tremendous pressure. Know where I'm going with this? He snuck into the station late at night after dark, and.....um, inserted the hose....you know, *there*....and proceded to drop a coin into the machine to start the air hose. About 5 seconds later--he EXPLODED!!! Authorities were picking pieces of the moron from the surrounding area for *days*. This goes to show you folks---don't stick anything in that place-of-which-I-do-not-speak.
****END OFFENSIVE STUFF****

Today's show is brought to you by the number 23: Here's one for you conspiracy nuts--fan favorite sci-fi show the X-Files is produced by Ten Thirteen Productions. Ten and Thirteen. 10 + 13 = 23!!!! Is Chris Carter trying to tell us something???
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:48:34 PM
IP: 207-172-52-187.s187.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

New DBZ eps start Monday, though I've seen all six of the new videos already....BTW, only 50 new episodes were ordered, and end at 103 (or around there). Goku goes Super Sayajin in episode 90 (if I'm not mistaken).

Crossovers> I've been speculating the possible crossover of three pop-culture series into a single fanfic. (If you've ever read Children of Twilight, it's posslbe in my own little universe). BTW, again, I've been working CoT stories off and on, but I have no idea were any of them stand. By January, I promise (if anyone actually cares). Anyways, here goes...

Gargoyles has the Illuminati, and I always viewed the Illuminati and the Watchers from Highlander as the same orginization. Now, in Buffy, there are also Watchers, but of a different nature. It would make for an interesting story.....

All for now, laters.....

"Modern man: evolutionary betrayer."
----Bad Religion, Modern Man from All Ages
Ordell - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:46:22 PM
IP: ppp-116.ode.cableone.net

Man, I got to see "The Edge" on Disney Channel a little while ago. That was cool.
Has anybody heard anything about the LOTR movie? E-mail me at holymage@hotmail.com if you have.
Oh, yeah, and could anyone tell me when the next current episode will show? I've been waiting forever for that.
Later,
Menessah
holymage@hotmail.com
Menessah
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:24:42 PM
IP: filter.burgoyne.com

WW and M.A.S.K> God, I remember those shows, MASK more so than the other one, I remember one of the WW good guys was this psionic girl who was part plant. Silverhawks, that was a cool one too, and I've got another one, anyone remember Tiger Sharks? (Like silverhawks/thundercats but underwater and they were treasure hunters/salvagers, not cops, and they weren't marooned on the planet either)
speaking of bizarre crossovers, I have two, one I've yet to post (gargs/celebrity deathmatch) and one I'd REALLY like to start if I can find the time (Gargs/ Beast Wars/ Celebrity Deathmatch)
shogun raptor
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:17:16 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

The number 23- There's nothing special about it really. You find the number 42 all the time if you look for it. It's Mulder's apartment number for instance. But if you were to look for any number, say... 61, you'd start to see it all the time and go "Hey, what a coincidence!" Nothing special about the numbers 23 or 42... Or is there?
Robby
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:01:55 PM
IP: spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com

23: Another thing about the number 23 is...2+3=5. :) There's a whole lot of this stuff in "The Illuminatus! Trilogy" by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. And my birthday is November...brace yourself...17! Not as fun as having one on the 23rd...but I have a friend whose birthday is on the 23rd of december...

By the way...1994 was the Year of the Illuminati. 1+9+9+4=23.

Remember Max Headroom? The TV station that Matt Frewer's character worked for was...Network *23*!

Ever wonder why the original Star Trek and Babylon 5 were set in the 23rd century? Come to think about it, the numbers 5 and 23 have come up quite often on B5... O_o

Isn't it eerie? The more you look for these numbers, the more often you find them. ;)
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 08:44:55 PM
IP: wire-12.koalas.com

Who DID put the "bomp" in the "bomp she bomp" anyway? And while I'm asking, who put the "ram" in "ram a lama ding dong"?

Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors- I remember the show. In fact, I have the first two episodes on tape... Unfortunatley, that tape happens to be for a BETA vcr... I seem to recall one of the main characters being such an obvious rip off of Han Solo...

Spacebabie- Actually, Wierd Al's latest polka is WAY too new to have a midi file yet. Its usually a good six month to a year before a midi gets made of a song if ever, unless its a REALLY popular song or its easy to do. Ah well...

Darwin awards- Anyone that earns one of these awards certainley deserves it, and they deserve to be thinned from the herd usually...

Firestorm- What movie on DVD are you refferring to? Rocky Horror Picture Show?

School- It usually sucks, because you have to take stupid boring courses you will never need in life, (Chemistry and high level math anyone?) But this year I like school, cause I'm a Senior, its all art and writing classes... And I have a certain mentorship...

Good news for me- The Sonic the Hedgehog anime came out today! A week early! YES! Methinks a visit to the mall tommarrow is called for...

Warpmind- The Darwin Awards are real set of awards given out every year, (or every three months, I forget which) to people who killed themselves in absolutley STUPID ways, and so did the world a favor by getting rid of someone not fit to survive... My personal favorite example is someone who dug a six foot hole at the beach, went in it to rest, and then apparently was surprised when he was buried alive...

Silverhawks- What happened to that show is Cartoon Network thought Thundercats would be a better license to pull in since it had more episodes. So for now, Silverhawks is just ignored, but every ep is on video.

Jewel- **Shudder** I honestly think Sailor Moon actually gets worse editting than Dragonball Z. At least Dragonball keeps the story and characters intact...

Pinky and the Brain- There ARE worse characters they could hav added to the cast than Elmyra... Bologney! (A chorus of the Anvil song suddenly comes to mind...)

Crossovers- I've done one or two. Gargs/Mighty Ducks, and Gargs/Ninja Turtles weren't much of a stretch. However, Dragonball Z and Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers might be tough...
Robby
Friday, September 3, 1999 07:26:44 PM
IP: spider-ta077.proxy.aol.com

Hey everybody. Looks like the topic now is kids , and the hell they bring.

Spike-They locked you out when you were cooking dinner? Yikes I hope I wasn't like that when I was a kid. Actually my mother assures me that I was a really good kid.My little brother on the other hand would sometimes [ when left alone in the tub]jump out, and run out of the house naked. The farthest he ever got was three blocks , but man would that cause a scene. I think the only thing that I ever did was open my bedroom window , take the screen off[I am told that I figured out these things really fast] and climb out onto the roof, that's when we used to live in texas. I don't remember that but I was told that I was laughing the whole time.

Ironwolf-Yikes again. Well a mere mortal would have died like that, I guess we know what you are. How long were you under anyway?

Xanathar-speaking of kids stuff right after my post yesterday I went to the living room and put awakening part two in. My mom must have changed moods again because she was completly ignoring the fact that I had it on for her, and she knows that. At first I was thinking well maybe she's a bit confused , so I started explaining everything from them turning to stone to them not having names. AND SHE COMPLETLY IGNORED ME. After that I thought ,well I have to turn her attention to the screen. So I turned the volume up , and she just continued reading. At that point part two ended and part three came on. I got so confused that at the part where Eliza falls off the building I thought ,screw this, I was actually getting upset over this. I turned it of[the tape] and went to bed. At that point my mom asked if I was okay I just said yeah and fell asleep. When I woke up I just told myself that she didn't know that I was putting it on for her and that I was talking to tommy. I'll try again tonight. You can see that it's important to me that she watches my stuff. I guess I'm jelous because she watches tommy's little cartoons.So I don't really know what to show her to prove that this stuff is more mature . I don't even know now if that's the case, maybe she's just stressed. But if maturity's the case , then do you think that Hunter's moon would be a good choice? I know that's going strait from beg. to end but I don't know if she's paying attention anyway.

80's cartoons- I know it's hard to believe but before 93 I never watched cartoons, that means that I was about eight when I started liking cartoons. Then I was watching TMNT. I gave up on the show[not comics]at mid-94 , and went strait to gargs.

Wilek-Sorry, there are only two ginos' pizzas that I know of both of them in chicago . One by O'hare airport and one on the East side. And if any of you ever go the one on the east side[called Ginos' East] is the best one. Which brings back a question that I asked before, Do any of you live in either Indiana or Illinois?If so then you know my pining for a gathering in Chicago and another, how much does it cost to go to the gathering?

I'm not trying to copy your top ten lists GB I think that they are very good . Unlike your lists these are not comical but they are true.I don't know who was the first to post a top ten list , but I needed someone to tell that to.

TOP FIVE REASONS THAT I'D CHOOSE MONSTER RANCHER OVER POKEMON.
5.Better enemies[Rapters over Team rocket]
4.No pikachu
3.No Ash cachim[I always found him more annoying than pikachu]
2.This is a playstation game , which happends to be the only system I own , so I could play this game if I wanted.
1.Techno-based ending theme over soulful catch'em all song.

TOP FIVE REASONS THAT I'D CHOOSE POKEMON OVER MONSTER RANCHER
5.Better storyline
4.No moochi
3.Better animation
2.Charmander and Bulbasaur
1.More people watch pokemon

Hope that was okay, I'll post again later.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Friday, September 3, 1999 07:21:11 PM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

**enters the room slowly, almost somberly, massaging his shoulders. Switches out the candles very slowly, then places seven votive candles around it, their meaning to be revealed shortly**

Ughh ... next time I try to push a car out of my back yard, somebody stop me before I do it. My shoulders have been hurting all afternoon!!

RL shock value: You'll probably hear about this on your news, but there's been a lot of coverage because it's so close to Detroit ... "this" being the huge pileup accident on Highway 401 in Ontario. I've been watching coverage of the accident all afternoon and have barely been able to contain my emotions, looking at the carnage. There were at least seven deaths (hence the candles), over 30 injured people, and the accident itself involved ... **shudder** ... 62 vehicles, stretching a mile and a half on both sides of the highway.
The accident was caused by quickly falling dense fog. It was aggravated by one of the vehicles involved ... a diesel hauler that promptly exploded on impact. One shot of the accident that's been played a lot on the news has been a *huge* burnmark stretching all across the highway, with five semi trailers sticking out of it. You have to take the news folks' word on it that there's 14 cars in the center of that burnmark.
**shudders again** That highway became the world's biggest abbatoir this morning.

**observes a moment of silence for the 7 dead**

What makes that so frightening for me was because I drove through similar fog on my way to work yesterday ... and I was thinking how cool it would've been if the murals had been on my car already, sort of like parting the Mists of Avalon. That wasn't Avalon's mists, that was smoke from Hell.

David G.: I had no idea about what "Naked" meant in the SCA. Oh, and good luck getting published ... take solace in the horror stories that Christine, Pistoff and myself can tell ye, it's a noble goal but difficult to attain.

Wilek: I really couldn't tell you, but all I *can* say is the best and worse Garg crossovers that I've seen ...
Best: tie between Cyrway's "South Park Horrors" (when Demona gets some good lovin' from Chef ;) and Doug Elder's "Vengeance."
Worst: There's a James Bond crossover in the GFW that I didn't particularly care for, mainly because of the characterizations. Oh, the Garg characters were okay, but Bond himself was so out of character it was making me cringe.
I'm sure there's worse ones, but that's the worst I've come across thus far.

Spike: "Lexington Blues" started life as a Vaughan riff? Ultimate coolies. :)

Milady Arianna: It's not you, for sure. I found myself growing more and more distant from everyone in my senior year, mainly because I was finally realizing that no matter *what* I did, I could never truly be a friend to these people, who've for all intents and purposes have known each other since conception ... I'm the outsider. Always have been, always will be. :(

Jenna: That ... was so ... damn ... beautiful!! **wipes a tear away, briefly fixates on the big candle's flame, then continues**

Crossovers: There's only one that I've actually written, which is long lost now (the third part of it has been lost to the winds of cyberspace completely, though the first two are still *somewhere.*), but it doesn't count as a weird crossover because it actually made a *little* bit of sense: Generation X/X-Nation 2099.
If you *truly* want weird ... for a long time I considered it, and I still might do it, but I was thisclose to having G:CM cross over with ... ready for this one? ... "Bedknobs and Broomsticks." How, ye ask (Glad ye did! ;)? By having Paul Rollins show up. Only my version of Paul Rollins used the bedknob to transport himself to Avalon, where he chose to learn the ways of magic and is now a master sorceror.
However, I couldn't think of a single damned thing for him to do in the war. I'm entertaining thoughts of having him be one of Rose's high school teachers. ;)

Dark sides of love: Ah yes, the side that is horrible to live in, but magnificent to write about. A truly inspirational love story ... I mean absolutely *perfect* ... would be one where the protagonist overcomes the dark side of their feelings to finally achieve their one true love. Though probably not realistic, and for sure melodramatic, it would melt me like butter if I read it.

**sits back in the lawn chair, sighing sadly and fixating once more, every once in a while wincing in pain**
Coyote the Hurting Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, September 3, 1999 06:27:17 PM
IP: 207.91.254.90

Love. Let's not forget the other dark side. The person so obsessed that they can't or won't let go.
The person who would rather kill their ex-wife/husband or even children so that the other person won't 'win' or leave them. There are so many cases in the news.
My mother has been married to the same wonderful person for 25 years. Her first two marrages ended in divorce. She's happy and for me that's the most important thing. I know if or when he dies, if she survives she will be lost. Too many people can't find that type of a relationship. It's hard. To go through life at the side of another. To be the other half of that whole. Love isn't rockets and fireworks, it's the home/hearth fire you return to day after day. It's not always something you can name, but you will know it when you find it.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, September 3, 1999 05:31:14 PM
IP: proxy-353.public.rwc.webtv.net

Yuk! That's not the picture I was expecting. Try this one.

Jenniren
Friday, September 3, 1999 05:10:18 PM
IP: user-2ivf6si.dialup.mindspring.com

I just got a "Design Toscano" catalog today. They are selling a figurine of a gargoyle sitting on the toilet reading. "Lou" the gargoyle, yours for $14.95 plus shipping. ;)

Ironwolf - How did you manage to get the hinges out of the door frame? I was NEVER able to do that. They were just too stiff. And the walkie-talkie thing? Wow. You sound like you were a real fun kid.

Once I got a shock from a wall socket. It was from a bad electric cord with the wires exposed near the plug. It wasn't exactly comfortable, but it wasn't that bad. My brother was the one who stuck things in the wall sockets. He'd blacken the socket and throw the circuit breaker, but it didn't seem to bother him too much. Once when I was on my Grandfather's farm with my cousins and we wanted to see if the electric fence was on. We tested it in the usual way that kids do. I insisted it wasn't on and they insisted it was. To prove my point I grabbed the wire with both hands and leaned back against it with an I-told-you-so smile. They stood there and gawped at me. Gradually I began to feel a tickle. My smile turned into a "huh" look and then a "hey" look. Yeah, it was on now, so why didn't I feel it before? I still haven't figured that out.

Jewel - you wrote [I've seen more friends than I want to think about get treated like cr*p from their boyfrines, but they won't dump them because they "love" them...people who wouldn't take sh*t from anyone else take it and willingly from the people they 'love.' Likewise, how many women out there don't leave their physically abusive boyfriends and husbands because they "love" 'them?]

That's not love, romantic or otherwise. That's being needy and/or afraid to be alone with yourself. Lack of self-respect and sometimes fear of reprisal are also involved. There's nothing romantic about being beat up. And being in love should not make you put all your good sense down the toilet.

This color is supposed to be violet.

Jenniren
Friday, September 3, 1999 05:07:59 PM
IP: user-2ivf729.dialup.mindspring.com

Mandolin> I remember Wheeled Warriors and MASK. Car shows. MASK had cool cars that turned into stuff. Every episode, the leader would ask his computer to pick out agents and vehicles. Wheeled Warriors had the cute little Robotic Squire who was a neurotic coward. The bad guys were all sentient plants (Who might have been bitter about not landing the lead in "Little Shop of Horrors")

Here's a terrible idea you just gave me.

Buffy meets the Gargoyles

Broadway: Watch out, Golaith. She's stronger than she looks. Look what she did to Brooklyn.

Brooklyn (with a stake sticking out of his chest) moans: How long till sunrise...

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, September 3, 1999 04:41:49 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Stephen> Eh, I don't know, I kind of like "Coldstone." But like Coyote, I was half expecting to hear your voice for Dominic when I was watching the pilot! :)

As for weird crossover ideas: eh, I'll throw out the list of ideas I've had, rejected or started.
Stargate: SG-1/The Flash
Buffy/Captain N: The Game Master
Power Rangers/SG-1 (don't laugh, this one's actually plausible so far)
PRLG/Buffy (I'm finishing it, and it's actually pretty good.)
PR/Star Wars (I would have dropped this ages ago, but people have been bugging me to write it)
Spider-Girl/Buffy
Tomorrow People/The Flash
Farscape/SG-1

Yes, I am nuts, but I did write a Gargs/CitC crossover a few years back, so I guess it's not much of a surprise...

Arianna> <<Correct me if I'm wrong: Senior year is supposed to be a chance for everyone to grow closer and friendships to become deeper, no?>> No, it's not until the very end of senior year when graduation's looming as well as the realization that you'll probably never see a good portion of these people for a long time that everyone starts suddenly getting sentimental and friendly. Usually, once everyone's been accepted to wherever they're going, senioritis sets in and people give up stressing. About anything, that is, more important then how one's hair looks at graduation.

Sorry, I just had a very cynical view of the preppie squad in my high school. All the awards and honors generally seemed to go to the same people in the same exclusive little clique... although my senior year a lot of unlikely (read: not in the popular crowd) people picked up awards. Huh.

Jewel> <<The dubbed is just wrong--after all, in the dubbed version, Sailor Neptune and Uranus have become...sisters. Um...no.>> *snerk* Hey, I've never seen the subtitled version, haven't watched SM with any regularity at all, and even *I* know that's wrong!

80's cartoons> Geez, I have an old JEM doll in my basement somewhere... she's not all that valuable since one of her hands vanished. I suppose Captain N counted as an 80's cartoon, albeit the very end of the 80's. Anyone else recall MASK and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors? I remember watching those shows, but I seem to have blocked out all the details...

All right, I'm gonna work on fanfic. Til later!
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 04:19:08 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Sorry about the double post, but i left something out
I have a theory on kids so let me know if I am close all yea parents. Boys are pure terror when they are little but are very laid back during their teens. Girls are more laid back when they are little but terrors when they are teens. More terror tells form yours truly. At age 3 I had a fascination with hinge screws. I would take them out of the hinge so that when you turned the knob the door fell out of the frame. My parents realllllllly hated that. Next at the age of four I got some Gi Joe walkie talkies I figured out how to get the back off and started twisting the transistors together until the frequency changed. I either changed it to broadcast on all channels or changed it to the police frequency. A police chopper homed in on me and confiscated the talkies and fined my dad because they thought he did it. My dad didn�t know whether to punish me or hail me as a genus. Or at the age of 6 or 7 I tried to incubate germs and bacteria by putting stuff in a cardboard box and setting the oven on warm. Use your imagination on STUFF hehehe. Explosions well to clich� umm what else oh running out into the ocean and getting swept up in a rip tide. I was under water so long the lifeguards gave up on me. My dad found me sitting on the bottom of a sand bar holding my breath my first words when he pulled me up? �Again!!� You know I got more horror stories than time to tell later guys and galls
ironwolf
Friday, September 3, 1999 04:04:46 PM
IP: host-209-214-40-217.cha.bellsouth.net

I dunno, I've been thinking about changing my nickname from "Coldstone" to "Dominic", in light of the "Roswell" series. What do you all think?

MANDI: Re: Wierd Crossovers - Heh! You would be surprised! Some of the brainstorms I've had concerning Gargoyles crossovers really do push the limits of credibility... I had a Spiderman/Gargs idea, A Rescue Rangers/Gargs idea, and a crossover involving Gargs and "Kung-Fu: The Legend Continues" (Sue me! I'm a fan of the show! <grin!>)... I have an entire outline for that one written up.

I think one of the weirdest ones I ever had was my first one, Gargs/Gummi Bears.

But, as for crossovers in general, it's safe to say that no idea is too weird when being concieved... it just gets weird during the execution phase! :)

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen "Coldstone" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, September 3, 1999 03:30:17 PM
IP: m167.ieway.com

Parenting horror stories>> Well, I've been to the emergency room several times with my boys, but Ryan has been an angel compared to his brother. Paul has eaten a cricket, split his chin open twice, and locked me out of the house WHILE dinner was cooking on the stove and couldn't or wouldn't unlock the door. Fortunately, our retired neighbor had been a locksmith so we were able to get in before the skillet caught on fire but this led to our putting a keypad on the garage door and concealing keys all over the place. There are days when I swear the boy does not want to make it to his next birthday!!
Spike
Friday, September 3, 1999 03:12:32 PM
IP: pppt09-226.ght.iadfw.net

IT'S FRIDAY!!! YES!!!

Parenting and crazy kids> According to my mother, I never put anything dangerous in my mouth or stuck my finger in anything... with one exception. Sitting by my parents' old brick fireplace one afternoon when I was a toddler, I got it into my head that some brick mortar would taste good. Yep, brick mortar. Mom freaked and called Poison Control immediately. She had to repeat herself since they didn't think they were hearing her right, and really had no solution for something like that. Nothing happened; I was fine, but Mom didn't let me anywhere near the brick foundation of that fireplace for a while after that.

Virgin sacrifices et al> <<Check out a video, 'Once Bitten' staring Jim Carey, yes THE Jim Carey. They come upon that
timely solution in the end. >> Yes! I remember seeing that even before "In Living Color" first aired! At least the coffin got *some* use in the end... :)

Fire Storm> <<In all these movies where EVERYONE knows the bad guys need virgins, wouldn't it make sense to just have sex so the bad guys won't kill you?>> Yeah, but it depends on who's available... *cough* Let's just say there are a few guys from my old HS I knew... if I was stuck in that situation with them, I'd seriously consider a quick death as an alternative. A few, mind you, and you'd have to see them to understand. :)

Estra re: first day of school> Awww. **hands her a box of tissues** Cheer up. It's Friday. Three-day weekend. And at least you don't have to share a room with any of those people... well, I don't either since I have a single, but you get the point.

You know, I think I've been bitten by the crossover bug. With the exception of the next story in my Garg fic cycle, all of the in-progress fics on my backlog are crossovers! And extremely weird ones at that! (I drew the line when one of my creativity demons tried to push a Buffy/Spider-Girl cross by me... I've only just gotten into the comic...) Anyone else ever had this problem?

It's 3 pm. Time to go down and see if my package is here. If not, I've got to wait til Tuesday... the college post office is completely averse to allowing students to get even emergency mail on Saturday for some reason.

Happy Labor Day weekend, everyone! (Any long weekend should be happy.)
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 03:00:27 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Parenting> here is a story. I used to try and stick stuff in electrical sockets as a baby too. My dad would say first time he gets shocked he won�t do it again, while my mom bugged him to get those child proof thingies. Well sure enough I succeed and ZAPP I fly across the room and cry for a hour. Dad �there he won�t do that again� me after the hour I was trying to do it again, and dad was buying the child proof thingies half an hour later. I wonder how I survived childhood, I have consumed; gasoline, bleach, plant food. Drano, and enough alcohol to pickle your average frat boy all before the age of 5. You know if the old saying about what doesn�t kill you makes you stronger is true then I should be immune to every poison known to man!

Love and relationships> I think that a lot of abusive relationships last not because one person is in love with the other, but because they are in love with the idea of the relationship. I have a friend who was in a abusive marriage that only lasted 6 months. Why did she marry the jerk because she was in love with the idea of marriage instead of the guy! Love exist and is a good thing just for the trust factor. It is one person you trust and who trust you. Look at Beast Wars and (yea I know I am bringing up a cartoon I real life discussion but cartoons are my life) Silverbolt and Black Arachnia. As much as she hates it she loves him and he trust her. Now my area won�t play any of the episodes past the giant EM Gun so I don�t know how the season ended, but here are 2 totally different characters with nothing in common who love and trust one another (she got pissed in one eps when she started to think he didn�t trust her.). Self preservation is a wonderful thing, but if there is nothing that can make override it then it sounds like a lonely life. Heck I have had friendships were there was enough love to shut down that part of my brain, and put myself in harms way just to save a friend (of course looking at the above post on parenting I could be some kind of mutant that can take the punishment that you mere mortals can�t ;) )

well lator gators

ironwolf
Friday, September 3, 1999 02:30:01 PM
IP: host-209-215-8-217.cha.bellsouth.net

Jewel and Talesinger-my opinon is only my personal experiences concerning love-- I hope none of what I have said pisses you off. If so, that was not my intention, I was just giving my experiences and pov.
jenna
Friday, September 3, 1999 02:23:21 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Aaron- hey there :)
jenna
Friday, September 3, 1999 02:02:38 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Aaron wanders in, followed by the faint strains of "Return of the Giant Hogweed" by Genesis.

The things this guy's netradio pulls up.

Valantine> I love the Darwin awards. My favorite was the guy who used a .22 bullet as a fuse in his dashboard.

jewel>This's probably just one of the many reasons I should never have kids, but I've always liked the Foxworthy school of parenting. "Here, you wanna stick a penny in the lightsocket?" Bzzzzzt! "Yeah, hurt like Hell, didn' it? You ain't gonna do that again, are you?"

Spacebabie> Yes, I bought Stinger. I love the beanies that make dangerous animals look cute, like the spider, scorpion, and shark.

Firestorm><<In all these movies where EVERYONE knows the bad guys need virgins, wouldn't it make sense to just have sex so the bad guys won't kill you?>> I think you just described the plot of Lair of the White Worm, one of Hugh Grant's *really* early movies.

Wilek> I would love to get a set of Scar and Xira plushies, but the local Disney store never has any. That's one of the reasons I have to visit the park during G2K. I'm told they have a "Villians Store" in the park, stocking nothing but villians merchandise. Sounds like heaven to me.

Hi Jenna :)

Later.

Aaron wanders off, humming "Rock 'n Roll Creation" by Spinal Tap.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, September 3, 1999 01:59:09 PM
IP: ppp-128.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Todd > ::PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA - I recall reading that a tenet of that thing was the significance of the number 23 - which is interesting in view of the fact that "23" was the
number on Mace Malone's hotel key for the Hotel Cabal in "Revelations". (I wonder if that was a reference to the PD on the part of the animators). :: 23 is one of the mystic numbers of the Illuminati ; ) Along with 5 and 17 (and one of the eeriest things about those three numbers is that half the people you ask will instinctively, yet _wrongly_, think that 17+5=23. That's why Tim and I got married on May 23 -- 5/23 -- so he would never have an excuse for forgetting our anniversary! And you know, I bet Matt Bluestone transferred to the 23rd Precinct on _purpose_ for just that reason ...

Avalon Mists > I assume then, that it's at least partly working? Oog ... anyway, thanks for the feedback thus far, especially those of you who liked my last-minute story.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, September 3, 1999 12:19:18 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

And just for the record, no I have not had a Pollyanna life--and I have been involded with the kind of guys Jewel descirbes- that is why when Mike and I were going out, I looked for things that mattered- I learned my lesson- the hard way
Jenna
Friday, September 3, 1999 11:53:24 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

SJ-- hmmm-- thanks for answering my questions about the Lord of the Rings project. Must say in all honesty, I'm a little disappointed with the casting-- granted the hobbits weren't dwarfish, but unless this company can pull it off very well, it may feel---I don't know, weird to me. Hope your right in your optimism

Jewel and Taleweaver-- (reading posts) --on reading your posts--hmmm--a lot of women and men feel that they must be in love to sort of justify their existance-- but that's not really love is it ? I won't argue with you, but I could not disagree with you more on the nature of love-- Lust is very different from Love, lust is about the act, and the act only. Lust fades, love, when it is genuine- does not. Love is not stupid, ect.--but you can't just go into everything head first, ect-- that is foolish and usually springs from desperation or personal immaturity.

Mike was not the most hansome guy I dated-- I dated others that had more material wealth, and better looking- so the idea that it was lust only is bogus, at least it was in my situation. Also when we were dating, I did my research so to speak-- I found out he was a good, honest man, hard working, talented, gentle-- basically everything I thought a good mate should have. I never had or have to worry about being abused by him, or having him cheat on me.-- And his family was awesome. Very strong family too, his parents were still married.

These are the things people should look for, not what kind of car he drives, how much money he has, ect-- all that means nothing. All that fades. A person can have that and still be an absoulute a$$hole. You must look deeper, if someone is foolish enough not to look for these- well, they can't really blame anyone but themselves if they are dissappointed when the realtionship sours. You have to build a good realtionship, esp one for life, on a solid foundation- not outward appearances or flash. A lot of highshoolers don't know that- that is okay, that's youth. Life will teach them, and life is a hard, unforgiving teacher.

And a relationship is work. I think our generation has forgotten that. In this age of divorce, ect. people seem to give up at the first sign of trouble.

And fianally, love is not foolish or weak- love keeps you going to the hospital to see your parents when they are dying, love helps you survive the times when your spouce is sick and needs you-- believe me there is nothing less lustful and pretty than cleaning up vomit.( I know)

But if the relationship is worth anything, anything at all, and is real love-- he will do the same for you. Without reserve and without asking for anything in return. I am very blessed that this is the type of love Mike and I have. It is the most sacred, pure thing I have ever experienced. We know we can always count on each other, and many times all we had was each other. WE have suffered together, (there have been times where we didn't have enough to eat) and laughed togehter. I thank God everyday for him, and he does the same.

Love is not foolish- it is strength. And unlike lust, it only grows with time. ( And BTW- sex with love is indeed the best kind there is.)
jenna
Friday, September 3, 1999 11:01:51 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Love > The topic was discussed in great detail on "Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher" last night. One member of the panel--a rabbi--was very vocal about on the subject of love/companionship... saying that a person cannot be happy with himself or herself without the company of a significant other. His idea of happiness is finding validation with other individuals, and he seemed to say that there was no other way to attain it.

I found myself siding with Maher on the issue. You don't necessarily need another person to be self-actualized. As a matter of fact, it would be a contradiction to do so.

Still, I think it's very important to keep an open mind on the issue. Incidents that Jewel has described are good examples of the Dark Side of romance... but I think my friend forgets that there is a good side, too.

At least, there *was*. Things are changing far too fast nowadays.

Yeesh. I feel fifty years old.

Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Friday, September 3, 1999 10:53:22 AM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA - I recall reading that a tenet of that thing was the significance of the number 23 - which is interesting in view of the fact that "23" was the number on Mace Malone's hotel key for the Hotel Cabal in "Revelations". (I wonder if that was a reference to the PD on the part of the animators).

PINKY AND THE BRAIN - I agree that adding Elmyra in as a regular was a Very Bad Idea. My personal suspicion - some not-too-bright exec thought that bringing her in and getting Pinky and the Brain involved in the day-to-day activities of kids like Elmyra and her age group would be better for their target 5-to-12-year-old audience. But I consider it still to be a Big Mistake.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, September 3, 1999 10:14:29 AM
IP: sys.slpl.lib.mo.us

Love> Anti-romantic? Jewel? Please... spend a day in my world and you'll see anti-romantic, plus a heaping dollop of cynicism with a smattering of misanthropy. I think love is highly overrated. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it's just that after romantics get to it, they make it into something bigger than it real is. It reminds me of the story of the big, little dragon. Everyone told this knight about a dragon and in each version the dragon got bigger and more fearsome. When the knight finally found the dragon, he found out it was only a small lizard. Judging from my own experience, love can be subtle. And more importantly love is something we create. I don't believe there is one true love out there. Mainly, because I'm amazed how many people seem to find love with people so soon and so close to where they start looking. Rare is the case of someone going to Africa or Bhutan to find their true love, usually they met them in the bar down the street or see them in class or some other local function. I think it more of what we choose as love.

Valor> About the virgin thing. Check out a video, 'Once Bitten' staring Jim Carey, yes THE Jim Carey. They come upon that timely solution in the end.

Victory> Nothing on that front. Just haven't written in a while.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, September 3, 1999 09:55:32 AM
IP: pool0309.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

Hi, all.

Feels like I haven't been here in ages. Of course, I haven't. School started on the 23rd of August, and the first week I was already back to getting 2-3 hours of sleep. Of course, I'm taking seven classes, two of which are AP and three of which are honors (the others don't have honors counterparts), and my lunch is second period because if I hadn't taken second lunch I would have been forced to drop AP French. I have a project due in a month, and essay due Tuesday and a Physics test Tuesday. Plus, I'm beginning to apply to colleges, and that's just a barrel of fun. Luckily, even my Early Decision one isn't due until November 15, so I've got a little time. RL SUCKS!

And now to the best part: Correct me if I'm wrong: Senior year is supposed to be a chance for everyone to grow closer and friendships to become deeper, no? Well, half my friends are ready to kill the other half because everyone is quote 'acting wierd'. Whatever. I'm staying out of it. I just act the way I always do, and apparently no one has a problem with it. But jeez. It's incredible. I just keep telling myself we've only been in school for two weeks -- I honestly feel like I never left!!!!!

So let's see.

Welcome to all newcomers! Happy Birthday to everyone I missed!

Sorow> Congratulations on the new relationship! :) Have fun at Homecoming. :)

Green Baron> <<As for Political Scinece, ho wmany would want to take a Poli Sci class if I was the Porfessor?>> I would, for one. I'll bet you'd be a better teacher than my current Politics teacher. Which reminds me of another thing I have to complain about.

I finally got into Honors Politics/Economics, only to find out that they have dumbed the class down so much from last year it's not even funny! I mean, FLUFFY's in there (have I ever mentioned Fluffy? She's not my favorite person -- as some people here can testify to. :). There are people in that class who make me look like a genius by comparison. I'm so mad. After two years of working my butt off to stay in honors, they make the honors class stupid. I can't believe it.

Wilek> I'll e-mail you eventually...sorry I've been so long... as I said above, RL SUCKS!

AvMists> Very wonderful, as usual. Loved your story, Christine. And the art was amazing.

You know what...I have to go now. I just realized that. I'm going to the mall at 10:15 (I don't have school today, bless whatever deities exist), and I still have to finish the laundry (another perk of school being off, sadly). Well, everyone take care...chances are that now that school's back in session, I'll be on-line much less frequently. The sacrifices I make for my academics. Sheesh. Later!

~Ari
Lady Arianna of Annwn
Friday, September 3, 1999 08:33:45 AM
IP: spider-wc081.proxy.aol.com

Warpmind>>
Funny thing about "Lexington Blues" -- I used to work at the Dallas Observer back when we still had to use production cameras (before the days of computer scanners) and I had to share the dark room with a photographer who just happened to be going through Alcoholics Anonymouse with blues guitarist Stevie Ray Vaughn. The photographer got to take photos at one of Stevie's recording sessions and one of the things he liked to play while working in the darkroom was a session tape Stevie had given. "Lexington Blues" is based on a tune off that session tapes and I have no idea if the song ever made it onto an album because Stevie Ray Vaughn died in a plane crash not long after that session.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

*laughs* And one of this times, somebody's going to remember to back me into a corner at the Gathering and have me sing the silly thing!!
Spike
Friday, September 3, 1999 08:26:23 AM
IP: ppp40-33.ght.iadfw.net

Hi all!!

Gunjack:Out of curiosity, has anybody here heard about the Darwin awards? I'm sure you guys would love em...>>Yes,I think somebody posted a link for them here a while back,funny stuff:)

night walker:What ep. should I show her after the awakening part three, I lost parts 4 and 5. Any suggestions?>>May I suggest you try for the more drama orientated EP's(Something that shows that Gargoyles isn't just another "Kiddie show")

Fire Storm:Have you ever played System Shock 1?>>No but I had friend who had a copy and I used to watch him play it(After my experiences with SS2 I'm heading off to the city tomorrow to see if I can get it on a budget label),I'm kicking myself for not getting sooner*mutters*.

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Friday, September 3, 1999 07:43:17 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Whoa, second double-post in a row for me!

Once again, I forgot something.

Sailor Moon: It's all about the subtitled. The dubbed is just wrong--after all, in the dubbed version, Sailor Neptune and Uranus have become...sisters.
Um...no.

"Get in tune with Sailor Moon 'cause that cartoon has got the boom anime babes to make me think the wrong thing..."
-"One Week," Barenaked Ladies

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Friday, September 3, 1999 06:45:11 AM
IP: 207-172-73-230.s230.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Yes, it's far too early to be awake. But my biological clock seems to have set itself at the funkiest of all settings--I conk out at 10 pm and wake up at 5-somethig. This is just sick, twisted, and *wrong*.

Silverhawks: I *loved* that show! But it didn't come on where I lived; I only got to see it for one summer when I visited relatives in NYC. Thundercats was also cool, but I was watching an ep a year or so ago, and it wasn't as cool as I remembered...

Love: realizing how bitter my last post sounded, let me add a few points: 'romantic love' is a stupid and bad emotion for a myriad of reasons. It makes you stupid and lose touch with reality. I've seen more friends than I want to think about get treated like cr*p from their boyfrines, but they won't dump them because they "love" them...people who wouldn't take sh*t from anyone else take it and willingly from the people they 'love.' Likewise, how many women out there don't leave their physically abusive boyfriends and husbands because they "love" 'them? How many people have killed or been killed in the name of "love"? Any emotion that shorts out both a) common sense and b) the instinct for self-preservation, is not healthy.

<g> Anyone out there wonder why I get called the Great Anti-Romantic?
jewel - [JEwel.Faulkner@alumnae.brunmawr.edu]
Friday, September 3, 1999 06:40:45 AM
IP: 207-172-73-230.s230.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Hi, y'all.

Gunjack: Um... Darwin Awards? Don't get me wrong, but looking at humans today... well, not to be disrespectful, but there are some SEVERE flaws in his theories.

Fire Storm: So, you ran System Shock on a 386? Well, that's comforting... but I was actually rooting for sympathy.

Spike: Um, got a melody to go with the "Lexington Blues"? Kinda suits me nowadays...

Wilek: Waldenbooks you say? *Punches in a few letters in Netscape* Nope, didn't work. Maybe Amazon, then... *Punches a bit more* Hmmm... lookey herey...

Well, can't think of more at the moment, so I'll check back later, ok?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, September 3, 1999 03:18:51 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**RP!**

[In the Avatar Of Ganon's command center...Jespe: "Commander Khesaat? Bad news--I can't get through to de Ravens. Dey're not answering deir commlinks, and dey were supposed to call us hours ago." Khesaat: "So they've probably run into trouble...I'd better tell the others..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

Jaden> <> Me neither. I am one of the last sentient beings on Earth who hasn't read those novels.

Pistoff> <<How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her when I Found Her) Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!>> <blink> Uh huh...you seem to be rather well-versed in such matters; who are these people and how do I stop them? >;)

Warpmind> <<As for novel series: WHERE, WHERE?>> Oh...it's been years, actually; I can't remember where I got mine (but they were *awfully* hard to find). Although I think Waldenbooks still carries them.

Heather> <<But...Elmyra in the show. **gets a shot gun and little rubber saucers with Elmyra's face is on them** Pull! **they fly out and she shots one of them** Not happening.>> So, so true. Now, Elmyra may have worked as a one or two-episode thing--she finds them and acquires them as her pets (Perhaps Snowball or whatever his name is gets them captured?), and they escape in a most creative manner, perhaps finding a way to use her as a pawn in their plot to take over the world in the process--but to have her as their permanent owner is just *wrong*.

Speaking of things that are sick and wrong that have to do with Warner Bros.> Why do Gargs fics that are crossovers with Warner properties seem to work so well, even if it's something bizarre like Pinky And The Brain? This is the kind of thing that, by rights, *should not work*, and yet it does. Hm...Well, there's always the unity of opposites to consider; somehow I get the impression that Disney and WB have some kind of rivalry. (Mos Eisner, anyone?)

Xanathar> <<even better idea,attach his intestines to the Cthulhu's fanbelt and start the motor.(there's some pretty mental images>> Ooh...I like. ^_^

Aaron> <<What can I say? I have a weakness for poisonous plushies.>> They're not literally poisonous, but have you encountered the Scar and Ursula beanies? <G> Amusing little twisted irony there...

$Kitainia> <<If anyone else wants to join in on killing the WCOC when the time comes (especially Green Baron), feel free. Just remember, they deserve the worst!>> <chuckles evilly> Ohhh, how Anoth and Forfexx would love to make examples of these vomitous masses of garbage that have the nerve to call themselves a church. They're both devout Christians, and idiots like this WCOC who give all the Faithful a bad name enrage them as little else can. Too bad they'll be busy with a certain little blue menace...$

Gunjack> <<If their going to dress like the sailor scouts I'm praying that they'd at least be human...>> They'll be quite human (or something very, very similar; Correlian, Firerreo, Arkanian, and the like), but their attire isn't much like the Sailors. Consider yourself fortunate: the first draft included Sailors Kashyyyk and Endor. <shudder> (I've spent much too long deciding what this whole thing should be like. Someone stop me before this ends up becoming a bizarre fanfic $or ending up in the RP$...)

Jewel> <> <GRR> I don't know what to say, except that STINKS. >:( <<I'll either a)return the car or b) accept it as part of life and a learning experience.>> Or better, c) Go completely Malkie and visit the dealer's home in the middle of the night with some S&M gear and a cheese grater. <MUAHHAHAHAHAHHA> <<they haven't given me access, and when they do, they *monitor* where you go, and if they see it's not work-related, they'll cut your access to the site.>> <GRR> Now that is *low*. How do they expect you to goof off if they do that? <g> j/k But seriously, *everything* you go to online at work shouldn't have to *be* about work! They should give you a break at least once in a while! <<I've still got my resume on-line, and I got an e-mail today about a *graphics* job! I *miss* graphics like you wouldn't beleive, so I'm e-mailing them my resume and a cover letter tonight. I *so* have my fingers crossed...>> Oh I hope you get that job. Your current one sounds awful. (Would there happen to be a sadistic cat in charge of Human Resources...?) <<They're flipping because two people just quit and left in the last week or so. I wonder if I should use this to try to squeeze more money out of them...>> Ohhh, *yes*. Milk them for all they're worth. Especially if you find out you're eligible for that graphics job--then you can demand that they match or exceed that salary or you threaten to leave. They're not called co-workers (read: cow-orkers) for nothing. >8) Oh, and masterful rants. ^_^ <<Arg. I still remeber some of the songs from "Jem," sad as that is>> I remember being able to endure a few minutes of it once (I preferred Thundercats and Silverhawks, quite honestly. I wonder whatever happened to Silverhawks). All I remember that I really liked was some kind of digital sentience the band or whatever carried around with them on tour. I think AIs are rather kewl. ^_^

Nightwalker> <<picture a restauant , there's alot of grafiti on all of the tables, walls, and the ceiling.You wait about 45 min. and then the waiter serves you this big pizza covered in sause , with a layer of melted cheese over a sausage patty.>> Ooh...that sounds kewl. I wonder if there's a Gino's in my area...<> Anyone who doesn't like your personality is wrong for you, and anyone who dislikes you for your appearance is *unworthy* of you.

Princess Estra> <<well, today was the first day of school. i survived. barely. i think i should get an award every day i go w/ out killing those small minded, rude, immatures *BLEEP*s people have the gall to call my peers.>> Award? Try nomination for sainthood. Those idiots are enough to drive one to genocide...

Coyote> <<the Principia Discordia is the holy scripture for worshippers of Eris, the Goddess of Chaos ...>> Ah. Hm...she's a Fey and therefore vulnerable to cold iron, no? >8)

Fire Storm> <<Yeah, the Dark Side Jedi try to take over a planet that for some reason they really want, and they get help from Tuxedo Obi-Won.>> Interesting...or, even better, Tuxedo Maul. Twisted (and most likely quite implausible) backstory there. >:)

David G> <<The reason I may not have time for an Obnoxiously Long Post for a while is that I have decided to concentrate on getting published>> Kewl. Good luck!

SJ> <<And he will be all CGI. I know, some of you may have visions of Jar Jar running through your head, but the faith I have lost in Lucas I have in Jackson.>> To be quite honest, I've always thought Jar Jar was technologically well executed. If only they hadn't given him such an awful personality and voice...

**RESUME RP!**

[Wilek, back in his quarters, hears the chime of the Avatar's doors' equivalent of a doorbell (something like the ones on Star Trek TNG). Wilek: "Come in." Khesaat: "I thought you'd like to know--we haven't heard from the Ravens." Wilek: "Huh? Weren't they supposed to check in by now?" Khesaat: "They were. We think they've ran into...difficulties." Wilek: "Oh no...should we send a search and rescue team?" Khesaat: "Well...it may be a good idea. But not a large one; we'd rather not attract attention." Wilek: "Right. I...guess the search should begin around where they were last seen?" Khesaat: "That *is* the usual procedure." Wilek: "Good. I don't know much about this kind of thing." Khesaat: "If there's nothing more, I have to organize the search effort." Wilek: "Good. Do so. And thanks for informing me of this." Khesaat nods and leaves...after which Wilek notices, for the first time, a slight odor of smoke, emanating from somewhere in his quarters. Wilek: "Huh?" He then sees quite clearly where it came from..."It's that pendant thingie Pikachu gave me...what the...it's broken...pretty badly too...hm..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Friday, September 3, 1999 02:38:10 AM
IP: tnt-1-37-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

hi all!
wow, long time no see, I haven't been here for about a week give or take a while *g*

hmm... Gunjack< now what were you saying about christians??? of course its always in love!! *g* (I'm a born again christian) hehe I didn't get to see what you were commenting on so *shrugs* I'm not too sure on anything these days

jewel< I would lovee to be able to say that my little sisters listen to me like they listen to you, but hey, life's not perfect right? I've tried and tried every once n a while they listen and obey but thats not too often, Its something only kids can decide I think

Heather< I totally agree with you the Elmyra just doesn't fit doesn't fit not at all ick

well,I gotta go to bed now, so bye all of you
cherry blossom
WI, US of A
Friday, September 3, 1999 12:24:10 AM
IP: 98c8963d.ipt.aol.com

***BEGIN RP****
SJ sat Kari down in front of one of the computer consoles. "Okay, we need to work up a program for Jim. We'll need to program his knowledge....should be no problem, I've got tons of tutorials left over from Dad's cloning operations...and we need to work on his personality. That's where you come in. Try to make him as much like he was before."
Kari grinned. "Well, maybe not exactly like he was. He could stand to be a bit more sensitive to me, you know..."
Suddenly, a loud beep interrupted them. SJ walked over to another console and stared at the monitor. He sighed.
"What?" Kari asked, concern in her voice. "What's wrong?"
SJ pointed at the cloning tank. "Just as I feared. We recovered enough DNA to make a clone, but it wasn't much...and the DNA wasn't...um...exactly pure."
"What does *that* mean."
"Well, there could be some complications, like *cough*slightly crossing genetic material*cough* or *cough, cough* genetic mutation *cough, cough*....I'm sorry, seems to be something in my throat..."
"What complications?"
"Well, specifically.....it'll probably take a little longer than expected to make the full clone. In other words, we may have to travel back and help the others stop the Smurf before the clone is fully developed."
****END RP FOR NOW***

A couple more Lord of the Rings bits: It's now being said that Dominic Monaghan has officially been cast as Merry, rounding out the cast of actual hobbits. If you haven't heard of Monaghan, don't be surprised. He's a young English actor, and is just one of the "unknowns" that Pete Jackson promised (Billy Boyd as Pippin and Stuart Townsend as Aragorn are other examples). Reportedly two more of the parts have been cast, but no one's talking yet....
Also, a bit on Gollum: He's most likely going to be voiced by an unknown British actor. And word has it from those that have seen the finalized Gollum designed, he's ripped right out of the book. He's not real fishy or froggy, he just looks...disturbing. Like something that used to be a man (or in Smeagol's case, a hobbit) but isn't quite one any longer....And he will be all CGI. I know, some of you may have visions of Jar Jar running through your head, but the faith I have lost in Lucas I have in Jackson.

Jenna: It would seem logical to cast people like the numerous real-life dwarves from "Willow", wouldn't it? In fact, most folks thought that was the way they wanted to go--Warwick Davis, "Willow" himself, tried out for the roles of the hobbits, but didn't make the cut. The reason being is that Jackson and company want to be accurate to the book--and if you read the book, the hobbits are most definitely *not* dwarves. They are little people, which doesn't mean midgets, it means *little people*. They look like ordinary human beings, only proportionately smaller (unlike dwarves, whose limbs can appear like "stumps"). Take yourself, just shrink your entire mass and size down to about 3-4 ft., and you're a hobbit. So, in this effort to remain true to the book, Jackson is using CGI effects to digitially "shrink" the actors who are playing the hobbits (and possibly Gimli as well). Interesting in the least, no? :)

Jaden: Wha....you don't know what the Lord of the Rings trilogy is??? Are you serious? My my my, dear boy, you don't know what you are missing!!! They are a trilogy of books (with a sort of introductory book, "The Hobbit) written by a man named J.R.R. Tolkien back during the 30's to 50's. They are considered by many some of the greatest fantasy novels of all time, and are very wonderful, with excellent characters, wonderful descriptions, exciting plots, and a great interpretation of the classic battle between good and evil. If you really haven't ever read them, I recommend that you do. Not only are they some of the best fantasy literature out there, but with the movies coming in a couple of years, they'll leave you anticipating the films all that more. :)

Kitiana: Yep, it is a pretty cool ADJ course. I'm especially looking forward to riding along with the police officer. Mostly it's just regular patrol, and the cop doesn't do too too much (maybe just a few traffic tickets). However, as the professor told us, sometimes the cop may get involved in some serious altercations....like this incident he told us about where the cop had to break up a bar room brawl and the student had to get in the middle of it.....Can you just see me doing that? $ Yep, if some crook tries to mess with me, I'll just have to lay the smackdown on his candy ass! ;) $
BTW, the Balrog, I believe, will appear in the film, but only as a CGI creation. As for Ray Park, I'd like to finally see him in something that actually involves, um, a speaking part!? (Maul doesn't count, cause it wasn't his voice) I mean, yeah, he's a great stuntman/martial artist, but I'd actually like to see him act besides kick a little butt, you know?
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:38:23 PM
IP: 207-172-53-80.s80.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Ok, I thought I'd make some real comments tonight, since all I did this morning was plug my story.
Whoever gave episode 3 a 2 star rating> What was wrong? I'm truly curious. Please let me know. I may not change anything, but I'm still curious.

Princess Estra> School is the purgatory we must go through to earn the right to move out of the house with our parents. I feel for you.

Coyote> Just as a point of curiosity (inspired by those forbidden license plates) "Naked" is a term used by SCA and Renfair folks to describe someone who is not in period garb at an event.

Gargoyles winning the lottery> Interesting question. Goliath might want to use the money to establish some kind of independance from Xanatos, but then again maybe not. He'd really like to buy the castle, but that would never happen.

Love> This is a dangerous subject for me. I think I'll stay out of this discussion for now.

Next Obnoxiously Long Post> If I ever have time to do one again, I think I may do a revision of my Magic post. I've been thinking about Fey magic again, and I have a new theory. Not all the Fey are sorcerers. Some of them rely on inate powers instead. For instance, the Banshee's wail isn't a spell, it's a supernatural power. One of the ways Oberon's Children gain power is by studying sorcery to bolster their natual powers. This might explain a few things about Alex, who is only a "quarterling" but is already very powerful as a magician. His "fey" power is negligable, but he's something of a prodigy with sorcery.

Everything else in my life> The reason I may not have time for an Obnoxiously Long Post for a while is that I have decided to concentrate on getting published. To that end, I'm working on saleable fiction, re-writing old pieces, and putting some files in order. I still want to do Freelance stories, though, so I'm alternating between them.

Oh yeah, and I'm trying to get my web page started. I finally got around to registering the site this evening.

Oh well, see y'all later. I'm going to bed.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:36:37 PM
IP: pppa23-fortworth18-4r521.saturn.bbn.com

EEK. NO idea what that was about.

OH! Something interesting I heard on the news. Go to Ebay and do a search on "Kidney" Trust me. WIERD stuff.
Fire Storm
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:14:49 PM
IP: t1-19.visitus.net

Xanathar: <but right now I'm just trying to make myself as annoying as possible just to get on his nerves:) >
Works for me!
Have you ever played System Shock 1?

Aris Katsaris: <Perhaps parents will in the future be given electric zappers and give minor electric shocks to disobedient children.>
You mean that the rest of you DON'T use shockers?
<Kidding!>

Wilek: Arthur and Hyena? Hmm...
<Evil thoughts... ideas... CREATIVITY DEMONS!... STORY IDEAS! YEAH!>
The Starlight Scouts: Yeah, the Dark Side Jedi try to take over a planet that for some reason they really want, and they get help from Tuxedo Obi-Won.

Robby/SJ: Ben Stien in Drag: Ya know, he REALLY could get some dressing tips from Sevarius Junior's father! <G>
<But STILL not a pretty picture.>
PS. WHEN IS THAT MOVIE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ON DVD?!?!?

Warpmind: Yep. Thats the e-mail.
DOOM BOOKS: Available at borders. Have been for a few years.
System Shock: I am pretty sure I had it running on my old 386/40mhz 16mb ram 20mb HD.

Computer Gods: I have offended them way too often. So, to make amends, I make offerings of new hardware and sacrifices of older hardware, and the occasional virgin.

Virgins: Speaking of which...
In all these movies where EVERYONE knows the bad guys need virgins, wouldn't it make sense to just have sex so the bad guys won't kill you?
(Why am I reminded of Aiden?)

jewel: 
GO FOR IT! And if they don't put out...
JEM: Hey! I actually liked that show!

Sailor Cartman
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:11:06 PM
IP: t1-19.visitus.net

Xanathar: <but right now I'm just trying to make myself as annoying as possible just to get on his nerves:) >
Works for me!
Have you ever played System Shock 1?

Aris Katsaris: <Perhaps parents will in the future be given electric zappers and give minor electric shocks to disobedient children.>
You mean that the rest of you DON'T use shockers?
<Kidding!>

Wilek: Arthur and Hyena? Hmm...
<Evil thoughts... ideas... CREATIVITY DEMONS!... STORY IDEAS! YEAH!>
The Starlight Scouts: Yeah, the Dark Side Jedi try to take over a planet that for some reason they really want, and they get help from Tuxedo Obi-Won.

Robby/SJ: Ben Stien in Drag: Ya know, he REALLY could get some dressing tips from Sevarius Junior's father! <G>
<But STILL not a pretty picture.>
PS. WHEN IS THAT MOVIE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ON DVD?!?!?

Warpmind: Yep. Thats the e-mail.
DOOM BOOKS: Available at borders. Have been for a few years.
System Shock: I am pretty sure I had it running on my old 386/40mhz 16mb ram 20mb HD.

Computer Gods: I have offended them way too often. So, to make amends, I make offerings of new hardware and sacrifices of older hardware, and the occasional virgin.

Virgins: Speaking of which...
In all these movies where EVERYONE knows the bad guys need virgins, wouldn't it make sense to just have sex so the bad guys won't kill you?
(Why am I reminded of Aiden?)

jewel: 
GO FOR IT! And if they don't put out...
JEM: Hey! I actually liked that show!

Sailor Cartman

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:11:02 PM
IP: t1-19.visitus.net

**re-enters the room after having a post get erased. Switches out the candles, then proceeds to break DC's fingers.**

There. I feel cleansed. I lost a good post today because of this nimrod. :P

Let's see, what was I saying ... I like "Starship Troopers" enough that I'm willing to wake up at 7:30 every morning to see it now ... the Principia Discordia is the holy scripture for worshippers of Eris, the Goddess of Chaos ... there, I think I'm caught up.

Warpmind: No prob. And the only reason why I chose that line was because it was *the* one line of the show that stuck out for me. It's an *incredibly* romantic line, very powerful in its impact. When you hear it, it doesn't so much reach your ears as it hits them and makes a bullet path straight to your heart.
And yes, I love my car, but not as much as other things I can think of right now ... **sighs, briefly fixating on the candle**
Besides that, the theme of the car is going to be Elisa and Goliath, and there isn't a single line I associate with Goliath more than "You and I are one ... now and forever."
Oh, and if you decide to get custom plates, there's a list somewhere of plates that no state will allow you to purchase ... it's from Illinois, and it's a list of plates that were actually requested and denied. I don't recall all of them right now, but the two that I remember the most were "MAFIA" and "NAKED."
**shudders** Why anyone would request "NAKED" as a plate is beyond me.

AvMists: I liked everything I've managed to get to thus far ... but my absolute fave is Kenna Street's pic in the Artists' Challenge ("Slayers GARG") ... which she's generously given me permission to put up in my Gallery, after I explained to her how my character Lina was based on Lina Inverse.

**sits back in the lawn chair, focusing on the candle's flame once more.**
Coyote the growling Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, September 2, 1999 11:02:37 PM
IP: 207.91.254.12

***Begin RP***
Selene shot her hand foreward and energy beams of magic targeted in on the Aria's with no effect
"Maybe if all three of us try" Phoebe sugested and all three of them repeated Selene's addition of magic.

"Their immune to our powers?' Luna asked in semi shock.
Meleah finaly getting a grasp of the knowledge began to laugh
"my how basic these earthlings be" Meleah siad between chuckles and handed her scanner to her sisters before morphing into a doppleganger for Luna
*******Pause RP******
GARGOYLE LOTTERY> well I agre with the charity...Goliath would probably donate his share to PIT/nd the Xanatos/Reynard Labrynth Society.
Hudson and Broadway would probably donate their shares to help schools and charities to fight Illiteracy.
They would probably use Bronx's and Nudnik's share to get him a good supplyof Rawhides and Meatybones and donate some to help the Human society. I don't know what charities, Brooklyn,Sata,Lex,Angela and the Twins would donate their shares too

GUNJACK>You and me both..I was thinking about the Darwin awards as well when I read the posts as well.

SOROW>GEM?!?!? OMG mee too! were you also a fan of He-Man and She-Ra?

PRINCESS ESTRA>---/-@Take a Tuxedo Kamen rose anyone who likes the Sailor Senshi as well as Gargoyles deserves one

*****Resume RP****
The Aria sisters now appeared to be a mirror reflection of the Weird sisters only their outfits were different
"Why did you arrive?"Phoebe asked
"Are you here to take over Avalon?"Asked Luna
"Or to destroy it?" added Selene
"Where not here to take over anything"Karian said her voice sounding just like Phoebe's"A Sentinnel in the area called Easter Island told us that there was troubl here and we want to help"
"We only did the mimic thing so we would blend it..I mean normal earthlings look like you right?" Tizzy asked
The Wierd sisters nodded
"We going to return to our ship and then use 'Stealth mode" to land near a more populated area"
***********End RP************

Here is another musical mmontage Wierd Al's latest Polka Medly it contains "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls, "Push" by Matchbox20, "Semicharmed life" by Third eye Blind" and "Closing Time"by Semisonic among others... I don't know if Robby could find a link or not but if he does you should check it out...WA actualky makes Wannabe sound decent

oooh I nearly forgot

Aaron>You have a Stinger the Scorpion to? the only reason I have him is because I was Born in Early November.

Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Thursday, September 2, 1999 10:57:36 PM
IP: ts005d26.orl-fl.concentric.net

Hi everyone, I'm so looking forward to the week end, it looks like we won't have to put in an extra day to catch up on the remodel at work. Which means I still get to have my holiday and weekend off. I am very glad.

My hubby finally decided he was never going to get my car fixed (I have been waiting 2 month- driving his old beat up Toyota and getting very mad at him) we picked it up from the shop tonight and it is so good to have my ride back.

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Thursday, September 2, 1999 10:37:01 PM
IP: 207.14.195.147

*emerges from a forbidding, dark classroom, rule sheets flying all about*

*sits down and cries w/ Usagi-like tears*

AUGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

well, today was the first day of school. i survived. barely. i think i should get an award every day i go w/ out killing those small minded, rude, immatures *BLEEP*s people have the gall to call my peers. i should get another one for not dying of boredom. *sigh* as you can probably tell, I HATE SCHOOL! i never seem to LEARN anything, except to like withdrawing and reading more than talking to anyone or doing any homework. but this year i'm in highschool, (technically. it counts on my record but i still go to a Jr. High. explain that to me!) so i've got to be good and mind my GPA, or i'll never get into Princeton! *l* like i would try! the problem is i kno even when i graduate i'm going to have to get a "REAL" job, no one starts out as an artist, a fiction writer, a comic-book artist/writer, a rock star, or anything else i want to be when i grow up! *sigh* it's ludicrous, that they're hoisting this responsibility on kids our age. i'm only fourteen for Kami's sake!

Wilek: i'm a rabid Sailormoon fan (don't like the dubbed, the subbed is AWESOME). if you don't believe me check out the image on my page! you'll never want to be within three feet of me again! ;) as for the guy, i've never been more glad to never see a person again. ;)

Sevarias Jr: i never seem sure if i'm spelling your name right, poor thing. IRL my name is the hardest thing to spell and pronounced, so, i guess i should be more careful... anyhoo-- thanx for the spoilers about the movie! Elijah Wood is in it! yay! *swoon*
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Virtual Insanity
Thursday, September 2, 1999 08:44:29 PM
IP: abd70376.ipt.aol.com

Hmm, slow room today. My day was dull, and I have nothing much to add. Oh well...

Gunjack- A good way to join the RP will be to go to the Dark Star Two on Monday to battle the cyber-smurf, who I'll be RPing as. (Yeah, I'm playing the villain, fun stuff.) A major battle is about to start there, and it looks as if lotsa people are going to go there. You won't have to work too hard to get your character into the storyline, and when its all over you'll be incorporated and can go about your buisness. Its the easiest way to do things, and its how I intend to bring in a new character or two...
Robby
Thursday, September 2, 1999 07:21:31 PM
IP: spider-th053.proxy.aol.com

Sorry everybody for my being so scarce the past few days , I was in lurk mode and haven't missed a thing. Turns around and yells "and if it ever happends again you know what's going to happen" Screams of pain can be heard eminating from another room. Sorry, but I'm showing mercy to Mr. disconnect via the three strikes version, he's already on his second one.

I hope none of you are going to be mad at me for posting this [which I doubt any of you will , unless you've lived or been in the Chicago area] but at this very moment I'm taking the last bite of a very delicious piece of Ginos' pizza.I know that most of you probaly don't know what Ginos' is , well picture a restauant , there's alot of grafiti on all of the tables, walls, and the ceiling.You wait about 45 min. and then the waiter serves you this big pizza covered in sause , with a layer of melted cheese over a sausage patty. That's probaly another reason to have a gathering in chicago, if they ever did we'd probaly all go there together.Wouldn't that be neat?

LOTR-I wish I had a comment for this one but I've only read the Hobbit, But I know the basic plot. And unlike my feelings for the gargs movie I'm sure that this one would be better in live action w/ CGI.

Love-Not much to comment on this one, mainly because I've never been in love, although I've loved people [past friends] I've never felt that thing, if someone is really out there for me I doubt I'll find her, my personality for some reason turnes people off, or maybe it's not that but appearence. Either way it's something I have to live with , like it or not. I think that it mostly my being so shy that makes people in the real world ignore me.And even though I would like to meet you all in person I'd probaly get so scared that I'd pretend that I'm just looking through at the gathering.

Well as for the details of my mom they're kind of complicated at the moment, I don't really know if she's actually interested or if she's just pretending but she did watch an entire ep. She said that she'd watched part two tonight so I'll post either really early tomorrow morning or after school, and as for her becomng a part of our CR [I forgot who said that] but I don't think it'll ever get that far. She's in her "good" mood right now. And I hope she stays that way, because when she's in a good mood she'll tolerate anything. What ep. should I show her after the awakening part three, I lost parts 4 and 5. Any suggestions?

I'll post later tonight, at that time I'll bring a new topic with me, I hope the one I have planned wasn't done already.

night walker - [Goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:48:47 PM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net

Oh! I almost forgot!

Pinky and the Brain: Thank God they finally killed it. It was dying a slow death after they took it off "Animaniacs," and a quick death after they decided to add *Elymira" to it. I just want to know what brain-dead *idiot* came up with that idea. Better it die than slither on as garbage. But I salute it's memory.

Dinosaucers: Man, I loved that show when I was little. I even loved it more than "Jem" (<Embaressed grin> I was *such* a *girl* when I was little. Arg. I still remeber some of the songs from "Jem," sad as that is.)

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:34:36 PM
IP: 207-172-74-39.s39.tnt2.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Hey, all.

GB: I haven't forgotten about your e-mail. I use someone else's computer to check my e-mail, and when I downloaded your story onto disk to take to my computer to read, I discovered my computer has decided that now is the time for the disk drive to break. Arrrrrrrrrrrrg. That's hwy I haven't e-mailed, I e-mail you ater I post and basically fill you in on how topsy-turvy my life has truly gone.

Car: Baically, I just found out I as screwed car payments wise--I should have knonw this--after all, I'm Black, female, and don't know jack about cars. I'm paying about $70 more a month than I should be. I'm going to go to the dealership and complain, and if I can't get the payments chnaged, I'll either a)return the car or b) accept it as part of life and a learning experience.

Work: I *really* hate my job. I love the peple there, but I'm bored silly. And I can't even go online yet, since they haven't given me access, and when they do, they *monitor* where you go, and if they see it's not work-related, they'll cut your access to the site. I've still got my resume on-line, and I got an e-mail today about a *graphics* job! I *miss* graphics like you wouldn't beleive, so I'm e-mailing them my resume and a cover letter tonight. I *so* have my fingers crossed... <g> On a aranoid tip, one of my bosses was on-line looking for more suckers <ahem> people to hire to work out here, and saw my resume was still on-line. I got this tripping e-mail, wanting to know why my resume was still on-line, was I already looking for a new job, and should we talk? They're flipping because two people just quit and left in the last week or so. I wonder if I should use this to try to squeeze more money out of them...

Random: one plus to work is that I started doodling more. Only now, I'm using just a pen instead of the cructh of an eraser. Irina's been trying to convince me for months to send samples off to DC and see if I can get a job drawiong comic books, and after a doodle of Kamiko that I did today, I decided, "Eh, what the hell? Why not."

Superman: Bully for those guys! The American comics industry deserves a good kick in the pants about who owns characters. It's ridiculous that the creators of a comic character don't actually own their own creations.

<rubs hands together and face develops a maniacal grin> And now for the fun...

Love: Hooo. Love. <Warning, anti-romanticism ahead!> To paraphrase Michel Foucault (whom I normally hate with a passion, but can conceed that within most of his cow manure a rose can be plucked), love is nothing but a social construct. Our idea of love stems from the courtly love of the 1300's. It's nothing but an amaglam of lust, the desire to form a pair-bond, and the human need for society and to belong all rolled into one. "love," per se, doens't really exist.
As for the multiple emotions we steamroll into one, it's ridiculous. Any emotion that causes you to completely lose perspective is bad and should be stomped out, in my opinion. But then, I will admit, I'm biased--when I was 12, mom had a boyfriend move in, and he was insane. Literally. He used to threaten to beat me when I had "attitude problems" (ie, I was in a bad mood, which is a common occurance for a 12/13 year old) and he once almost attacked my *unarmed* big brother with a wrench. He also started a fist fight with my brother in front of me and a friend, and for the entire time he lived there, I never left my room except coming to and from the house from school, to get food, go to the bathroom--and if I saw him, I turned around and went back in my room. And Mom said I was blowing everything out of proportion, and "If you were nice to John, he would buy you things, like he does me." (that was the exact moment when me and Mom's relationship crashed and burned. Something about realizing "My mother's a whore." will do that to you). Any emotion that makes you blind to the dangers your own children are in is not a good one. Other people can have love; I'll live alone with my snake, and when I want kids, in vetro. I'd rather not lose my tentative grasp on reality, thanks. <g> Besides, I've got too much emotional baggage, and I no longer want to inflict all *that* on anyone. Anyone crazy enough to want something to do with me is not someone I'd want to date.

Punishing children: Children should have a good, healthy dose of fear of their parents. Emphasis on the word *HEALTHY*. I'm all for spanking, in moderation. Time-outs first, then, if that doesn't work, tan their little butts with your hand. No belts, no switches--open hand. That way, you know when to stop because your hand'll start to sting, too. It's mighty hard to go overboard when you hurt physically, too, by the end. It's not just spanking that disciplines. It's consistancy. My little brothers do what I say. Period. Dot. No questions. They obey, because I put my foot down, and make it crystal clear: I'm the grown-up, you are not, and you will do what I say. There is no touchy-feely-"let's all be friends" crappola. I very rarely have to spank them--compare this to my mom, who has to spank them constantly to get them to do what she says. She yells, fumes, spanks, and then lets them get away with stuff...then wonders why they misbehave. I just tower over them, boom out, "You have until I count to *THREE*." and tat ends that. All it takes is to be consistent and firm on that consistancy about what will and will not be tolerated. WHen you do that, the kids know what the rules are, and you very rarely have things even getting to the point where you have to spank--and I speak from expeience. When I lived in Georgia, Mom kept foster kids. And since it was too much wrok for her to do more than make dinner for them, it was my job to take care of all of them (at one point, there were 6 kids--an 18 month old, 2 two-year-olds, a six-year-old, a nine-year-old, and a twelve-year-old--in the house, and I took care of them from picking them up from daycare after school to making sure their homework was done to monitoring their TV to putting them to bed...and then I got to start my homework, which was about 10 at night...and be up at six the next morning to help with getting everyone ready, dropping off, and then heading to school.) But anyway--I almost never had problems with them because I was consistant. In the beginning, I did have to spank the younger ones (9 and under). By the end, I almost never did. The only times there were problems was when Mom overruled me and they learned if they cried to her, they could get off. <g> But the best revenge came when I left for college--the foster kids mom had at the time turned into little hellions as soon as I left, and suddenly Mom had to deal with them. Anyway, after that long sidebar, the point is this: there is nothing wrong with spanking to emphasize a point, and best done when they're quite honestly too little for you to really reason with. I spanked my then two-year-old little brother after he kept trying to stick screws into an electrical socket, even after I took the screws away and told him "NO!!!!" (Mom was in the process of moving, so there were random screws all over the floor, and, I swear, they were multiplying. I went over the floor picking them all up, then vacuuming, and he had managed to find another one and was about to stick it in the socket...after using it to pry the socket protector off. He got the point after I spanked his little butt, yelling, "When I say 'no' I mean NO! You don't stick things into sockets!" Better a red butt than a fried kid.
I don't think kids should be spanked after 8 or 9--by then, they're old enough to talk to logically. Before then, though, sometimes, a good swat on the rear is needed when all else fails.

Whew. That was a long, bitter post. One would think I was a seething ball of bitterness. And I'm only that one alternating Thursdays.

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:31:08 PM
IP: 207-172-74-39.s39.tnt2.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Dang, the room is slow today... And this is probably my last post until Monday. Too much work to do, and not enough time... Anyway, on to the replies.

SJ><< As for the "only killing Bugs" type of plot....I don't know how familiar you people are with Troopers, but there's only one of two ways that they could have gone with this series: Exactly like the book (which was at most only about 25% devoted to action) or like the movie (big chunks of action). One way meant almost no action....which also means no ratings. The Bugs are the villains, and that isn't going to change>> True, but they weren't the only aliens in the book. Anybody remember the Skinnies? Also, even a straight war story has a lot of room for plot. This sounds like a pretty sweet show! Does anybody know if Ace or Rycheck (yes, I know thats not how it's spelled) are in it?

Wilek - Thanks a heap for the poem. I've had the opening lines to that little bugger stuck in my head for the last three weeks... <<The Starlight Scouts: Sailor Coruscant, Sailor Tatooine, Sailor Naboo, Sailor Corellia, and Sailor Yavin>> If their going to dress like the sailor scouts I'm praying that they'd at least be human...

Kit><<Our born-again friend Shap is going to show them what a real Christian's wrath can be like as soon as he gets free.>> In the spirit of christian love, of course...:) Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm believer in smiting. <<If anyone else wants to join in on killing the WCOC when the time comes (especially Green Baron), feel free>> It's at times like this that I wish I was in on the RP... oh well, maybe after my computer re-ups...:) Somebody cook a few nasties w/ a willie-pete for me, will ya? <<Wonder if they'll have Ray Park or someone who can fight equally well doing the Balrog>> Actually, my impression of the Balrog was always of a demon that would dwarf a T-Rex...

Pistoff><<But hopefully he removed himself from the gene pool before he could do any damage...>> Out of curiosity, has anybody here heard about the Darwin awards? I'm sure you guys would love em...

Out of curiosity, can anybody tell me a good way to enter the RP?

*Valentine checks his watch*
Crud... I've got a lot of work to do, and only three days to do it in. See ya'll later...

Gunjack Valentine
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:27:32 PM
IP: 205.165.166.148

Well, it has been a while since I last posted. I have been rather busy with school. Alright, so I spend most my time wasting time, that's beside the point. Actually I think I am doing better than last year, and no matter how much I procrastinate, I still manage to get everything done. (well, the things that I have to turn in) But I always have fun. As Gunjack said, life is good. :)

And now, after staring at the screen for 15 min. trying to think of something worthwhile to write, I think I will quit for now.

Later.
Princess Mera
Thursday, September 2, 1999 05:34:22 PM
IP: harding.edu

**LONG RP HERE. WARNING- IT CONTAINS VIOLENT RACIST ATTITUDES ON THE PART OF THE BAD GUYS.**

Somewhere in the complex of labs and dungeons beneath Area 51-A, Black Raven paladin Ben Shapiro opens his eyes as a hard hand slaps him across the face. "Wakie, wakie, nigga," Matthew Hale of the World Church of the Creator chuckles, sticking his grinning ugly mug right in front of Shap's head. "It's time for you to go see God." Shap grimaces as he looks around the room, finding himself in the midst of a large group of men and women all chanting in support of Hale and the evil racist WCOC. "Lord," Shap prays as he realizes what's happened, "give me strength. Please...let me survive this." "Isn't that sweet?" Hale laughs. "The darkie's appealing to God! Idiot darkie! Don't you know God only answers white men's prayers?" Shap shakes his head. "That ain't true, man. God supports all of us, loves everyone. I have more faith in the true God than you ever will!" Hale shakes his head. "Poor misguided inferior fool." He draws a cattle prod and fingers it suggestively. "Time for your lesson in proper manners." Shap steels himself and screams as the blow strikes across his naked back. Hale then calls forward four Nazi skinheads allied with him who are all carrying whips (their names, if anyone's curious, are Norman, Andy, Zarah, and Ian. Yes, Zarah is female.) "You bastards," Shap growls as they draw back their weapons. "You really think God supports you doing this?" Hale nods. "He does. I'd quote scripture to you to support it, but since you're nothing but a big dumb black cow, you probably wouldn't understand." Shap only grimaces as the WCOC leader spits on his face. "Let me show you something," Hale then says. He makes a gesture and a curtain across the room opens, revealing an almost completely-stripped and unconscious Shauna dangling from a pole by her wrists. Standing next to her is a huge man dressed like Machine from the movie 8mm. Shap grimaces at the sight and adds her to his prayers. "We're gonna give you some judgement, nigga," Hale tells the paladin. "First we beat you to within an inch of your life. Then you get to watch that little dark bitch over there die. Then we send you to join her." He looks at the Nazis. "Boys?" "The Lord is my shepherd," Shap begins mumbling as they start attacking him, praying God will stand by him and hopefully send deliverance. "I shall not want. He maketh me.."

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everybody. Ah, the joys of a new semester. Boring classes, lots of homework, and having to send in posts from the library because you don't have time to go home and use the computer there. <grin>

$ RP Note: The bad guys above are the World Church of the Creator, a racist group of Fundamentalist Extreme Christian jerkheads. They were recently responsible for shootings in Chicago and LA of Jews and African-Americans. You may have heard about them in last month's news. The organization has a membership that's too high and an attitude that goes way beyond Christian decency. Our born-again friend Shap is going to show them what a real Christian's wrath can be like as soon as he gets free. :) Shauna will probably help. If anyone else wants to join in on killing the WCOC when the time comes (especially Green Baron), feel free. Just remember, they deserve the worst! <grin> Oh, and please let us know if we're offenending anyone in here by doing this. If so, we'll apologize and immediately wrap up the thread. $

Thanks to everyone for all the good answers to my lottery question. I'm still wondering what Demona would do if she won. Probably use the money on some new awful scheme to kill all humans. Or if she was reformed, stockpile more magical artifacts by buying them from museums.

Christine: You won't be the only surprised one if Doug writes a short story. :) Great job on Avalon Mists. Thanks for the entertainment to you and all who contributed. I especially enjoyed the Artist's Challenge results (nice pic, Argent), my favorite of which was "Gargoyle Sailors." The Cartoons were also funny, and the stories were great. "Beth of Both Worlds" was my favorite of those (excellent spontaneous job on it, Christine!) thanks to its nice action, character development, and plot. This quarter's issue definitely gets 10/10, thumbs skyhigh. :)

Green Baron: You want to teach Political Science? I definitely think you could do it, and probably better than the guy who taught me last semester. So you've got yourself one student. :)

SJ: Thanks for posting the Lord of the Rings cast, sounds like mostly good roles. Wonder if they'll have Ray Park or someone who can fight equally well doing the Balrog. I hope so. :) BTW, I envy you for having that Criminal Justice class. It sounds like a very interesting experience. Hopefully UT offers a similar course so Doug and I can take it our senior year (it'd be especially good for him to take it given his police force ambitions, but I would enjoy it a lot too).

David G: Freelance 3 is up? Alright! I shall be reading it very soon. Tonight, probably. <grin> Expect a review of the story (along with commentary on the films Outside Providence and Chill Factor) next post.

And since I have to run, that's all for now.

**RESUME RP**

As the beating of Shap continues, many in the WCOC are startled by the fact that no screams come out of his mouth, only psalms and prayers. "Whip him harder!" Hale orders the Nazis. Others in the crowd begin yelling various racist insults. Still Shap continues to resist their attacks and affirm his faith in God.

Meanwhile, in their cells, the other Ravens are glaring at Pastor John and Kincaid. "What do you plan to do with us?" Gubio asks the latter. "You will all be executed at high noon tomorrow," Kincaid replies. "Lord Thailog himself is coming in to see it. I haven't decided the method of your deaths yet, but don't worry, you will get a last meal." "I don't suppose that I can try to negotiate with you," says Jammer, "since I am a lawyer." Kincaid shakes his head. "No. There is no Geneva convention for you Ravens. Lord Thailog has ordered me to keep you here and kill you tomorrow, and so it shall be done." "What's your stake in this, Kincaid?" growls Kitainia. "Why did you join with Thailog?" The evil FBI AD smiles. "You really want to know? Alright, I'll tell you. I am the head of a medium-size faction in the FBI, a special faction. We believe that the government is too soft on people who break its laws, we think there should be more deadly punishments for them. You may recall some of the operations we've carried out from the news. What happened at Waco was engineered by our members, same for Ruby Ridge and a few other not-so-famous so-called FBI screw-ups. There are not many of us in the FBI, but there's enough to staff this facility. And when Thailog conquers the world, he has promised to give us power over law enforcement. Since we want this, we've joined with him. Of course, the fact that he's also paying us each a fortune also helped us become loyal." "I figured it was something like that," Doug sighs. "You know, Kincaid, you can't hold us here. Sooner or later our friends are going to come and rescue us." "I don't think so, sinners," Pastor John grins. "They've got...smaller problems!" He and Kincaid share a laugh. "You'll never escape here. Enjoy your last moments, for tomorrow you die!" The two men chuckle, then turn and walk off. "Smaller problems?" Doug asks. "I wonder what they were talking about." "I don't know," says Kitainia. "I just know we have to get out of here. Anyone have any ideas?"

**END RP AND POST (note- if anyone's curious, Kincaid and Pastor John were of course talking about the smurf)**
Kitainia
Thursday, September 2, 1999 02:36:58 PM
IP: fac-b-c8.lib.utexas.edu

Aaron wanders in, holding a think printout and balancing a pair of beanies, a spider and a scorpion, on his forearms.

This Principia Discordia is a great read. I'll have to print a copy when the boss isn't looking. (Looks at the beanies) What can I say? I have a weakness for poisonous plushies.

LOTR> I think Matt Frewer would make a pretty good Gollum. Or maybe Christopher Walken.

Later.

Aaron wanders off, singing "Livin' La Vie Demona"

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, September 2, 1999 02:30:40 PM
IP: ppp-6.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

testing... sorry about this
Anonymous
Thursday, September 2, 1999 01:31:47 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Servious Jr---thanks for posting the cast list-- I must say I'm confused as to why they didn't use the cast from Willow-- for Hobbits, that would have been the most logical choice. Do you know why???

Christine-- the wrath of the computer gods in upon you!!! J/k I should know, I used to offend the computer gods all the time and they saw fit to punish me as often as possible... hope they relent soon :P

Jenna
Thursday, September 2, 1999 01:24:58 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Avalon Mists > well, I have no !%^@$& clue what's up with it ... I hope it sorts itself out, because I'm clean out of ideas ... thanks for being patient and forgiving, all!

New on my site:
2 Jericho pics by Crzy and Eva
Book Review of "Bimbos of the Death Sun"
Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 12:29:06 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Voting is now open in the MGC "Shakespeare Gargoyles" contest!! Let's support art in fandom!!

Thankyou -- thankyouverymuch.
Spike - [<==<< Voting Now Open!!]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 10:08:31 AM
IP: ppp21-25.ght.iadfw.net

Christine-- ^_^ Hey not a problem-- thanks a Xanatos Million!!
Jenna
Thursday, September 2, 1999 09:54:42 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Gotta catch the bus in a few secs, so here goes:

Xanathar: I haven't played any of the System Shock games yet, as much as I would have liked to. In short: 486SX33MHz. 'Nuff said. (But I hope to get a PIII one of these years.)

Well, gotta go. Later, dudes.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 2, 1999 09:45:41 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hello all. Freelance Episode 3: Survivor's Guilt is now up in the Fanfic page. (At least I hope it is. I haven't had time to check).

Enjoy.
David G - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, September 2, 1999 09:05:47 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Hi all!!

Sylvia:Welcome back!,sorry to hear that your summer sucked.

Wilek:heh heh heh...and then perhaps tie them to Cthulhu's back bumper and...no, something like that's been done...>>Ahhhhh! Happy memories>:),here's an idea,shove my bosses intestines into a powerpoint and watch him dance>:),even better idea,attach his intestines to the Cthulhu's fanbelt and start the motor.(there's some pretty mental images*Grins*)

Warpmind re Doom:Yeah it was a great game definately a better single player experience than Quake*IMO*,BTW have you got System Shock 2?,I mentioned it in the CR a few days ago and words cannot describe how good it is.(Story and atmosphere wise especially)

Pistoff:No, it didn't mention whether the guy survived or not. But hopefully he removed himself from the gene pool before he could do any damage... ;)>>You know thats just wishful thinking,he probably went off and spawned a new generation of moron to inflict on us.:(

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Thursday, September 2, 1999 08:30:09 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Pinky and the Brain : I loved that show for years. That was my favorite part of Animanitacs(sp) before they got their own show. But...Elmyra in the show. **gets a shot gun and little rubber saucers with Elmyra's face is on them** Pull! **they fly out and she shots one of them** Not happening.
Anyway, that show is on my "My favorite Cartoon TV Shows List".

Robby : It's okay, you were busy last night and I completely understand. I had English homework to do. **hugs** But I hope you come on today. **pokes him**

Well I got to go to school. Today is AFJROTC Uniform Day. Yippy! **sees her flight and runs into place** See ya!
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 07:11:29 AM
IP: 98ab66fb.ipt.aol.com

Coyote the Bando: As for why I didn't recognize the litany at once: Truthfully, I do have the entire series on tape (TGC not counting). What I do NOT have, however, is a TV and a VCR of my own. Thus, I am not able to watch Gargoyles around the clock. Now, as much as that MIGHT be considered to be a good thing, I'm still somewhat doubtful. Anyway, if I ever move overseas to, say, the US, I'd be tryin' to get my own custom license plate, too. Probably something corny, like one of the plates mentioned in Christine's fics (ILUMIN8 or IMORTL2) or something of my own design (like WEIRD-1 or possibly NRWGIAN) just for kicks. Of course, I'd probably need a drivers license first... I'm turning twenty next month and I don't have a driver's license. How many of you can say the same?
*Kicks himself, disgusted at his automotive state.*

Well, gotta scoot. Nice thing I saw about the Gargs game suggested in Avalon Mists, though. Now if I could only persuade the school SysAdmin to remove the firewall... of course, considering I'm expecting one rattan bo and two swords in the mail... I'm not guilty, officer! Honest!

Oh, and I just printed that "conversational japanese" page mentioned in the Catfight (Thanks, Spike). It answered some questions I previously had. Like the difference between -san, -kun, -chan, et cetera. Plus, now I can say the rudest things to people, and they won't have a clue. Fun...

Well, gotta scoot. I might get invited to a Werewolves game this weekend, so I'll have to gather info from my liaison in the gamer circle here. Catch ya later, eh?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 2, 1999 07:00:46 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

PS> Thanks for the sympathies and the congrats, guys. Enjoy the Tootsie Pops! (Oh, and my cousin's name is Mary Rose)
Argent
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:24:15 AM
IP: dyn058-nas01.marietta.frognet.net

Oh I'm so proud, this is my first
~****SHAMELESS PLUG****~
If you haven't already, go check out the Artist's Challenge results in Avalon Mists' Autumn issue! I have a pic in there!
~****END SHAMELESS PLUG****~

Hmmm, wrong color in that last post

$I was going to do something in the RP, but due to life in general and events beyond my control...
***QUICK RP!***
(The hologram wavers, then fades. A miniature nova consumes the device. When the smoke clears, the button is charred black, and the crystal is shattered.
***END***

Gotta Jet! Go Tribe!
Argent
excited, USA
Thursday, September 2, 1999 06:17:29 AM
IP: dyn058-nas01.marietta.frognet.net

Hi, all. Back from the dead... almostly. Actually, it was just a bad case of the flu.

A few answers:

Coyote the Bando: Now and forever? Aw, dude, I shoulda figured that one out. Well, just goes to show; I get to school, and my brain kicks into neutral. Actually, I think the flu may have been participating.
P.S. You love your car, right?

Fire Storm: received your mail? Uh, I dunno... if it's the one where you ask to be called Night Flame, then yeah. If it was more recent... nah.

Xanathar: I agree, I'd be interested in seeing how they pull that DOOM RPG off, too. Apparently, it's set about sixty years after the initial assault on Mars, with gates popping in and out of reality. Oh, and I love DOOM, too. Fact is, I still play it semi-regularly (no computing power for anything more sophisticated), and it is the second closest thing I have to a religious experience on daily basis (guess the winner?). As for novel series: WHERE, WHERE?

Mary Flanders: "I'm afraid I'll either never find someone who I'll enjoy being with, or I'll get into a relationship and I can't tell him that I love him or even care about him they way he might for me." <-- Should you ever pop up in Norway, look me up, eh?

On the Mary Sue subject: I'm beginning to see the warning signs in Manxine... *Steps in to make corrective measures immediately!* Hmmm... on her birthday, certain... revelations will be... revealed (ugh, such bad choice of words, don't you agree?).

Gargoyles lottery thingie: I can imagine MacBeth: "Ah, AYE! At LAST my numbers came up." And then he'd be dancin' around in his living room. Somehow, I can imagine him having played the same numbers every week...

Okay, not much time to go on... must... read... Avalon Mists... must... go... get... coffee...

Uh... catch ya later, ok?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 2, 1999 04:51:32 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Xanathar: <Better send my dad in,he'll fix that problem:)> LMAO!! <Nope no brain to be found in there,probably some moths but no brain:)> You're probably right. :) ROTFLMAO!

Gunjack: No, it didn't mention whether the guy survived or not. But hopefully he removed himself from the gene pool before he could do any damage... ;)

Green Baron: Hmm...honestly, that's probably not much of a challenge. ;)

Wilek: Ah, you found the Principia Discordia! (Or: How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her when I Found Her) Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!

Robby: Ben Stein in drag...? guhhh! Glad I didn't see that one. ;)

"Moral perfection is not required for Discordian sainthood. You just have to suffer a lot." ---Principia Discordia
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Thursday, September 2, 1999 01:32:37 AM
IP: wire-21.koalas.com

<GASP!> Wrong color!
Jaden
Thursday, September 2, 1999 01:30:11 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Just a quick post-

Sevarius Jr.- I know this is going to sound crazy, but what is Lord of the Rings about? For some reason I can't remember.

That's all
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Thursday, September 2, 1999 01:29:19 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Oh geez... On Win Ben Steins Money they just had one of their costume theme shows... The theme of the episode? Cross dressing... Not a pretty sight to see Ben Stein in drag...
Robby
Thursday, September 2, 1999 12:03:02 AM
IP: spider-to023.proxy.aol.com

The situation with the CR archive- The situation with the archives is this, and its the same with a lot of other stuff on the site like the images and stuff. Quite simply, I don't know how to fix it myself, and Deuce's leaving the CR kinda stopped that cold... There's not much I can do about the situation, but I'm looking into getting people who can to try and take care of it.

Pinky and the Brain- Pity the show is dead. If it had gone without Elmyra the show might have lasted years providing good commentary on modern trends and such. Because the fact is, Pinky and the Brain were a great duo that haven't been around in a loooong time, and it will be longer still before another pair comes around. (My favorite Animaniacs were Rita and Runt actually, but they never could have gotten their own series...)

Today's Starship Troopers- Much improvement. I still don't know a single character's name except Rico, largely because they aren't really saying them, but I am starting to put faces and voices together. And today's episode actually had a plot and the animation was much better lit for some sequences than before, and the facial animation actually seems to be improving by the episiode. (Perhaps by this point in production they realized showing everything in pitch darkness was a bad idea?) So, its getting better, today's episode wasn't just "shoot the bugs" and I'm starting to get into it. Hopefully it'll be more colorfull once they get off Pluto.

Christine- It seemed like a good idea at the time?

No RP tonight, I'm planning for the grand fight that is to come starting Monday!
Robby
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 11:20:58 PM
IP: spider-tr041.proxy.aol.com

***BEGIN RP***
In SJ's Washington D.C. Laboratory....
"And here it is," SJ said proudly, motioning Kari inside his lab. "The fabled laboratory of Anton Sevarius Jr.! Cool, huh?"
"Uh yeah," Kari said kindly. Truth be told, the room, with its various medical and scientist equipment and 'specimen' samples, was a bit unnerving. "It's really....interesting. Is--is that a four-assed monkey over there?"
"Never mind that. That doesn't exist," SJ said quickly, leading her to a large collection of computer consoles. Nearby sat a large cylindrical tank filled with a greenish liquid. "Here we have one of my cloning tanks," SJ explained. "As soon as I extract the DNA from what we collected at Jim's house, we can begin the cloning process."
"What is this green goo inside the tank?"
"Nutrient bath. It aids the cloning process, helps the replicant grow."
"I see...um, how long should it take? You know, to completely clone Jim?"
SJ scratched his head. "Well, I'll have to accelerate the process, what with that Smurf going to destroy the earth and all....but it should take several hours. Maybe a day or two even. Till then, you and I can work on Jim's programming."
"Programming?"
"Yeah, we have to program his mind. You know, fill it with knowledge, personality, etc....."
Kari gave him a mischievous grin. "So...we can program him anyway we want to huh? I've got a few ideas in mind...."
***END RP*****

Well, one good thing comes from my college semester this year--I'm enrolled in one hell of a cool ADJ (Administration of Justice) class. It's almost completely "hands on", focusing on "experiencing" the criminal justice system...which means I get to do all kinds of cool stuff like visit courts to observe civil and criminal trials, take tours of detention centers, even ride along with a police officer while they're on patrol. It's pretty sweet!

Lord of the Rings Update: Well, to keep a tab on things, here is the cast so far:

Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood
Samwise Gamgee - Sean Astin
Peregrin Took - Billy Boyd (One of the unknowns Jackson cast)
Merry Brandybuck - Dominic Monaghan (This is just a RUMOR. As far as I know, Dom is a virtual unknown)
Bilbo Baggins - Ian Holm
Gandalf - Ian McKellen
Saruman - Christopher Lee
Aragorn � Stuart Townsend
Arwen - Liv Tyler
Boromir - Sean Bean (In case you don't recognize the name, he played the evil "006" in the Bond film "Goldeneye". Personally, I think he's a better choice than some of the other names I saw thrown around....like *ugh* Bruce Willis)
Faramir - Ethan Hawke (Just a RUMOR)
Grima Wormtounge - Jeffrey Combs (God of B-movie horror flicks like "Reanimator", and known to Trekkies for his role as Weyoun in DS9)
Galadriel - Uma Thurman (Once again, a RUMOR)

Personally, I'm still very excited over this movie. And we still have quite a few major roles to be cast--namely Gimli, Legolas, and Gollum (although I hear that the actor who will voice Gollum will most likely be a British unknown).

It's That Geezer With the Whip: Sorry to all you Indiana Jones fans, but you should pretty much write off the fourth installment of the "saga". Spielberg and Lucas and co. still claim the project's a go, but it won't begin filming till 2005....at which time Harrison Ford will be 63 years old. That's about 4 years older than Sean Connery was when he played Indy's father. I'd rather not see Indy fight Nazis with a cane.

Kaioto: Just thought I'd let you know that as I write this I am staring at a certain couple.....may I just say "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!" ;-p

Aris: <<Perhaps parents will in the future be given electric zappers and give minor electric shocks to disobedient children>> Actually, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. I suddenly get an image of that Simpson's episode where they're strapped to the shock chairs...;)
As I said before, I'm not against corporeal punishment. I also think that some of Dr. Spock's theories are nothing but BS. Corporeal punishment, if done right, can be very beneficial....but like I said, I personally don't advocate it now because of 2 reasons: One, I don't think people in today's culture are responsible enough to use it correctly, and two, if you dare lay a finger on a child the Social Services people will be on your ass like the proverbial fly on you-know-what. That's a good thing when abuse does happen, but sometimes kids get taken out of truly loving families in cases of mistaken abuse.... I won't even get into that can of worms. Frankly, I think the Social Services department needs some serious work. A lot of abused, neglected kids are not getting the help they need, for whatever reasons....

Starship Troopers: I tell you, I like this show. It's a lot more ballsy than most 'toons out there today **snarls viciously at the insidious evil that is Saban Entertainment**, and definitely more dark and violent. As for the "only killing Bugs" type of plot....I don't know how familiar you people are with Troopers, but there's only one of two ways that they could have gone with this series: Exactly like the book (which was at most only about 25% devoted to action) or like the movie (big chunks of action). One way meant almost no action....which also means no ratings. The Bugs are the villains, and that isn't going to change. This is a war, and the Bugs are the enemy. So, to some extent, every episode on some level will be a "kill the Bugs" episode. If you don't want that....I'm sorry, that's the show. Personally, I think the series is better than the movie, and does quite nicely with not treading too much on the book's toes (unlike the movie, which was quite different than the novel).

What the....oh dear...they seem to be playing my favorite Smith's song as the background music for a commercial. This on top of using the Cure to hock Burger King...
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 11:13:19 PM
IP: 207-172-70-20.s20.tnt11.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

**RP!**

[Rho and the Administrator have just left the training area, to find Darth Jashin seemingly waiting for them...Rho: "How did you find out about this? How did you even know where to find us?" Jashin: "I have ways of knowing such things. Tossing lightning and levitating things isn't all the Force is good for, you know. Which leads me to what I'm here for--I hear that you're sending a team to do battle with someone operating a rival station?" Administrator: "That is correct." Jashin: "I believe I can assist." Rho: "No offense, but..." Jashin: "I can't even walk? None taken. Of course, I can not directly participate...but, I have other resources..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

<stalks in, trying in vain to make sense of a vaguely official-looking document he found on the Internet entitled 'Principia Discordia'> Does anyone know WTF this is supposed to be?!!!

SJ> <<I'd kill Sli Sludge if I had the energy.>> Heh heh heh...where'd I leave my speculum...<<If this turns out to be true....DC loses half of Supes. Do you know what this means? It means that Siegel and Shuster's heirs can take the character, and do pretty much what they want with it, as it's half theirs. They could legitimately make their own Superman movie, license their own Superman merchandise....hell, we could see a totally different version of a Superman comic!>> Hm...maybe they can actually make him an interesting character. <G>

Nightwalker> <<And finally showed her Awakening part one. I'll explain all the detailes tomorrow after school but now before sleep rears it's beautiful face I just have enough energy to say THANK THE DEAR LORD>> Hey, sounds like things are going well. Soon, she will be assimilated into our collective. <muhahaha>

Princess Estra> <<he helped steal a laptop from the school, skipped school constantly, lied pathologically, took drugs...>> ECCH. I am so glad this piece of garbage is out of your life.

On the subject of love> Um...the guy who thinks Arthur and Hyena would make a cute couple has no business commenting on *this*...

Pistoff> <<In Ohio, an unidentified man in his late twenties walked into a police station with a 9-inch wire protruding from his forehead and calmly asked officers to give him an X-ray to help him find his brain, which he claimed had been stolen. Police were shocked to learn that the man had drilled a 6-inch deep hole in his skull with a Black & Decker power drill and had stuck the wire in to try and find the missing brain.>> I don't think this guy even HAD a brain to begin with...

Xanathar> <<Yes we can,we will use his intestines as jump ropes(While he's still alive of course>> heh heh heh...and then perhaps tie them to Cthulhu's back bumper and...no, something like that's been done...

Spike> Thanks for the AvMists link! ^_^...o_O Odd...it was there a few hours ago...

Green Baron> You know, your Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts gave me an idea for my own twisted mockery of Sailor Moon. The Starlight Scouts: Sailor Coruscant, Sailor Tatooine, Sailor Naboo, Sailor Corellia, and Sailor Yavin. I am so warped. <<As for Political Scinece, ho wmany would want to take a Poli Sci class if I was the Porfessor?>> Well...I wouldn't, but that's because Political Science hurts my brain. :P

Gunjack> <<A mere four of these creatures have been spawned, but prelimanary contact has shown them capable of reducing entire cities full of people into screaming, disorganized mobs. Like lightning, they have swept across America, bringing nearly everyone under their evil spell. They must be stopped. No sacrifice is too great to destroy, . . . THE BEATLES!!!!>> And here I thought they were another avatar of the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse. ;) <> That would be at my name link (you're welcome ^_^)

Coyote> Happy horsecrap...? I'll have to remember that one. ;P <> Or perhaps PIT. ^_^

Sylvia> <<my mom wouldn't hire any new maids for the motel- so guess who was stuck with the job, moi. ugh, I don't even like cleaning up my own room, much less twenty motel rooms in one day!>> AAACCCCCKKKKKK!!!! You poor girl! Why in the worlds won't she find some help? No one should be condemned to that much work!

**RESUME RP!**

[Rho: "What kind of resources?" Jashin: "I can supervise the attack from afar, anticipate traps before your team falls into them, orchestrate their actions through direct mind to mind communication. In short, I can make your team unstoppable." Administrator: "Interesting...tell me more..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 11:01:53 PM
IP: tnt-2-237-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Ugh! What a terrible summer! Sorry I dropped off the planet for so long, but my mom wouldn't hire any new maids for the motel- so guess who was stuck with the job, moi. ugh, I don't even like cleaning up my own room, much less twenty motel rooms in one day! Well, at least there were four of us, my dad, mom, aunt and me. Well, at least the seasons almost ending, but with my luck, I still won't be able to get on the internet too often thanks to homework. Boy my life's a mess. Well, gotta try to catch up on what I missed! Anyhoo, just wanted to let ya all know that I'm still alive, and I missed ya all. I'll be back soon as I can! Sees yous alls laters!

Pheonix
Sylvia - [Sylsy@msn.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 10:55:55 PM
IP: 1cust10.tnt6.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net

*no RP for now*
P*gag* E&TB> they did more than add her to the mix, the took out acme labs, the big suit, the resources, they basically made it into the "Elmyra and her two talking mice" show and the adding on of those villians with the guy who every other word out of his mouth was "crisply" made me swear off them altogether, COME ON PEOPLE! at least they euthanized it, I think they should've just ended it with the three-part "schmerskehoven" story, or maybe I don't know...NOT ADDED THE OTHER VILLAIN AND MADE IT A SNOWBALL STORY!
shogun raptor
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 10:41:50 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

Hmmm.... okay, NOW AvMists is showing up for me. Guess somebody fed that squirrel in a wheel that powers the servers, hmmm...?
Spike
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 10:26:43 PM
IP: pppt17-57.ght.iadfw.net

**enters the room, switching out the candles. Sees Crzy's brief post, and screams bloody murder.**

Don't tell me that WyvernWeb is doing this whole "selective server blackout" happy horsecrap again!! AvMists worked for exactly *ten* minutes for me before the browser couldn't find the blasted September index page!! ARRRRRRGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

**tries to compose self, fails, runs around the room screaming and keelhauling DC by his ... ahem ... drops DC and then *finally* composes self**

There. I feel cleansed.

Gargs winning the lottery: Lots of interesting answers ... but actually, knowing the way he is I would imagine that if Goliath won the lottery he would donate it all to charity.

Love: Everyone here's made great points about it ... I especially liked yours, FS ... that was so sweet ... **brushes a tear away, whimpering up at the candle's flame before continuing**

FS: Actually, I didn't get a chance to mention it to her either in e-mail or in the package ... and I wound up having to use the money I got back from the traveler's cheques for a new set of tires. :(

SJ: Yeah, that situation with Superman's going to be *verry* interesting how it pans out.

**POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR "ROUGHNECKS: STARSHIP TROOPERS CHRONICLES" AHEAD!!**

Okay, I've now seen the second and third eps (woke up too late to catch the pilot), and I think I have an idea of where the series is going. Basically what it amounts to is this ... the Roughnecks are the main protagonists, and EVERYBODY ELSE is the enemy.
Take a look at today's ep ... the 'Necks are stuck with a jerk intelligence lieutenant (interesting, BTW, that in this version of ST Carl Jenkins is a Roughneck as opposed to an intel officer) who basically tells 'em to bend over because their mission is going to leave them totally screwed ... behind enemy lines with questionable equipment and firing what for all intents and purposes amounts to *blanks* at the bugs, trying to capture one so that a bunch of scientists can study it. When they finally ditch the bombardier bug, the *intel officer* is the one who gets the medal. Typical demonstration of the reason why "military intelligence" is considered an oxymoron.
I have very very high hopes for this show now. (of course, I really like military stories anyway, so ...)

**END SPOILERS FOR "STARSHIP TROOPERS!"**

**taps foot** Waiting for the room to refresh ... oh, might I echo Gunjack's request for more weeks added to the CR archive? **sigh** I want to walk down memory lane and remember the good times from earlier this year ...
**whimpers, looking back up at the candle, then continues**

Christine: Uhmm ... dumb luck? ;)

**sighs, sitting back in the lawn chair** Hopefully AvMists comes back up soon, I'm dying of anxiety wondering what Stephen's written, seeing his clue from two weeks ago ...
**sighs, gazing up to the candle's flame**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 09:43:20 PM
IP: 207.91.254.4

::whimpers:: Someone remind me again how I, one of the most computer-inept people in all creation, wound up with this job?

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 08:56:25 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Spike/Christine - I can see it just fine.
CrzyDemona
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 08:51:37 PM
IP: 209.150.94.70

Hi ya'll, wow there is alot for me to catch up on.

David G>>sent email, it's all done

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 08:45:00 PM
IP: 207.14.195.82

Pssst.... double-check your links, Christine. It's not there!!
Spike
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 08:42:07 PM
IP: pppt13-132.ght.iadfw.net

NOW it's ready.
Avalon Mists Autumn Issue can be found at http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/avmists/index.html

Many heartfelt thanks to all who contributed!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 08:39:39 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Sheesh ... so that's what happened ... Spike, Michael, you guys, hey, it wasn't _ready_ yet! I sent what I had but still had some things to add (and one thing I totally spaced, sorry Jenna ::sheepish grin::).

But please, come on, let me announce it when it's done, 'kay? Toot my own horn, steal my own thunder, stuff like that, huh? Please?

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 07:43:04 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

RP WARNING!!!
**The swirling vortex begins releasing devils into the fold, and things look bad for the scouts. The scouts see an ominous situation, so they decide to grab their St. Joan of Arch medals and unanimously shout, "Catholic schoolgirl scout virgin warior crusader power".

Now, they are armed with specailly blessed chainmail and swords forged by St. Michael and ready for battle against the unholy.**

Kaioto> $I'm sorry I wrecked your plans earlier. I usually play it by ear with RPs, which is how I once made a tape of some supervillian and Ted Baxter taking over F-Troop :) I hope this won't throw you off$

Gunjack><<Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts...? *scratches his head* I'm almost SURE I didn't read that right. . . >>
You heard right :) And now you and all others can be shocked by their new transfromation :)

Love> I have been in relationships where I thought I was in love. I am only 22 so I am too young for love and marriage. I got hurt both times, one time really badly, and you may remember the last time I got dumped. Actually, I do enjoy certain physical aspects of a relationship, so a nice physical friendship would be fine for me right now, and as long as I don't have intercourse, there should be no regrets as long as she knows and wants the same thing. namely a lot of kissing and no major emotional attachments :)

Child Rearing> I think Dr. Spock was a little crazy,a nd I don't heed his advice on child psychology, so I'll need soemone more my style to look to for advice. I will only get my kids educational toys and I hope to raise them to be a good dynasty. I am the last male Forsyth, so the family line will be carried on through me, so I want a family full of very ambitious individuals who shall make Clan Forsyth a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully, I can have a few Bsihops, politicans, and business bigwigs for my children, grandchildren, etc. I knwo it's probably the wrong attitude for me to take, but afetr being fed that "I just want you to be happy" crap, I want my children to choos their profession (hopefully business, politics, or the religious life) and use it for their benefit and that of Clan Forsyth.

Princess Estra> I sent it to your hotmail addres.

<<nd ever since a recent discovery in my life, all the people i've fallen in love with are girls, and that doesn't help me out at all... >>
Well, it won't help you if you want kids, but you can still have a good long-lasting relationship all the same.

SJ> I woudl prefer to avoid corporal punishment, especially since I know I could never use it on a daughter. I prefer psychologicla methods of fear and obedience. I am a little sadistic, but there are worse things for me to be.

Kitainia> Well, you shoudl take the Econ classes at Loyola. The Porffessor are very lively and not afraid to voice their opinions in very amusing ways. Of course, most Porfessors have similar views on Economics and are very fond of Austrian theory and not at all fond of Government. it is amusing to see them in a debate with the Humanities Department, which is still mourning the fall of teh Soviet Union :) As for Political Scinece, ho wmany would want to take a Poli Sci class if I was the Porfessor?

Pistoff> <<If you remember the revenge tactics I posted
here a while back, you can pretty much guess why they stopped doing that to me. ;) >>
But they're your parents. I am a little sadistic, but I just want to raise a dynasty that will be better than the Kennedy family :)

Coyote> You should have a good idea :)

SOROW> <<He came up to me between classes and he touched my face and gave me that adorable smile... I almost melted! >>
Hopefully next time, he'll give you a kiss, too :)

Jenniren> <<The CGI was interesting, but not very colorful. My brother and I were mildly amused to see the giant bugs blow great explosive fluorescent cyan farts out their backsides at the invading humans.>>
Your tales never cease to amuse me. It sounds like a rip-off of Terence and Philip :)

2> It's good to hear from you as well.

Jenna> I'm glad you like my scouts. Their new power shoudl really give a chuckle :)

Now, I'm off. Bye Bye

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 05:19:57 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Christine-- I sent you an em with a question, Please respond.
Jenna
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 03:25:01 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

One last question: does anybody know if any new weeks are going to be added to the CR archive?
Gunjack Valentine
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 03:24:50 PM
IP: 205.165.166.148

*Valentine staggers into the room looking dead, flops into his chair, and is stunned to find Mera in his lap*

WELL now... that beats coffee any day!:) Better watch out dear... we don't want to offend the locals with excessive PDA...;)

Well, despite the two days of catch-up work hanging over me, I'm going to try to get in a post before returning to the drudge.

*Eyes flicker, data is absorbed*

**********EXTREMELY DISGUSTINGSTORY****************
Beheading Chickens - There's a camp out here in Texas where we had to do that... Every two-week session, the oldest group of campers spend three days out in the woods. No showers, no clean clothes, very little food, and a hole in the ground for a bathroom. Due to the lack of food, everyone on the trip (including me) set aside our picky eating habits and started packing in anything solid that we could find. Anyway, on the afternoon of the third day, we all come back from playing capture the flag to find several crates full of live chickens waiting at the top of a hill, and the councilers explain to us that if we want to eat, we're going to have to help prepare the food.
The guys get to snap the heads off by hand, and the girls get to pluck, gut (by hand), and sterilize the little buggers before the councilers spit and cook them. Definately an afternoon that I'll never forget. You had to grab a chicken by the head, and snap it like a whip. If you were lucky, the head came off and the body ran around for a little while spurting blood. If you weren't lucky, the head stayed on, and some of the nasty little bugger's bodily functions let go, splattering anybody in front of you with chicken excriment

Some of the best chicken I ever had too...
**********END EXTREMELY DISGUSTING STORY*********

Starship Troopers - I've always loved the idea of ST, especially the novel. What's the deal? what style of animation is it? Unfortunately, I don't have access to a TV, but it's nice to hear that more adult oriented cartoons are in the works... Maybe we can get rid of this "all cartoons are kid's fare" crap.

Jenniren><<My brother and I were mildly amused to see the giant bugs blow great explosive fluorescent cyan farts out their backsides at the invading humans.>> Mutant Bombadier Beetles, maybe?
Evil Creativity Demon: A special squad of elite Mobile Infantry is sent to elimanate an evil new form of Bug capable of mind control. A mere four of these creatures have been spawned, but prelimanary contact has shown them capable of reducing entire cities full of people into screaming, disorganized mobs. Like lightning, they have swept across America, bringing nearly everyone under their evil spell. They must be stopped. No sacrifice is too great to destroy, . . . THE BEATLES!!!!
(Apologies to the fans...)

SOROW><<Personally, I think that Fallen and The Game rank as the two most twisted plot endings in my opinion.>> What about "The Usual Suspects"? That one had me blinking for a while...

Speaking of twisted stories, I got to read the graphic novel "The Crow" at a friend's house over the summer, and I was wondering if anybody could get me the words to the "Raymond Chandler Evening" poem...after all, if you want something scary, what better place to ask?

Green Baron - Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts...? *scratches his head* I'm almost SURE I didn't read that right. . .

Love - Yeesh! mention the "L" word and this place turns into Philosophy Central overnight! :) Oh, and thanks for the congrats, and many well-wishes to all the other lucky ones. LIFE IS GOOD!!!

Kaioto><<Is it s bad thing when you feel compelled to write quatrains about the End of the World?>>I wouldn't get too worried... Unless you recieve a visit from a blue chick with wings and a nasty temper...

Pistoff - Did the article say whether the Do-it-yourself Brain Surgeon survived?

Spanking - I'm all for it. My parents used a belt, and had a rule of never more than ten swats. Believe me, ten was enough. I don't think that the spankings had any negative efects on me, but they definately served to show me that my parents had authority, and thus were not to be disobeyed. After I got to a certian maturity level, they stopped spanking all together and instead switched to more long ranging punishments, such as grounding. The punishments gave me a respect for my parents, and in short showed that there would be definate and immediate consequenses for certian types of behavior. Even today, my mom in full battle mode can still intimidate me, even though she's a good foot shorter than me. Without that authority, how can a parent deal with disobedience? I do agree, however, that it would be better for a child never to be spanked than for the punishment to cross over into abuse. If a parent isn't mature enough to excersise restraint, better not to touch the child at all.

Well, that's it for today
Gunjack Valentine
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 03:23:05 PM
IP: 205.165.166.148

Corporeal punishment> I'm absolutely against it. Except perhaps in very extreme cases (a child setting the whole house in fire, putting its baby brother in the oven, stuff like that) and even then only with extreme hesitation.

I was never spanked, so I couldn't give you adequate reason of why it feels wrong to me. Firstmost I suppose I consider it humiliating; and humiliating a child is something I strongly oppose. Secondly it seems to me to place the parental care in a physically stronger-weaker position: I have no idea what spanking proves other than that the parents are physically stronger than their kids and that therefore it's painful (though not necessarily wrong) to disobey them. I don't like the idea of pain as a parental instrument. Perhaps parents will in the future be given electric zappers and give minor electric shocks to disobedient children. I would disapprove of that as well.

I won't be able to post tomorrow btw. (saying it just in case further discussion ensues)
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:58:24 PM
IP: athe530-f055.otenet.gr

Spike- thanks ^_^
Jenna
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:56:40 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Here's the link for the newly-updated AvMists!!
Spike
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:33:27 PM
IP: pppt01-94.ght.iadfw.net

*****Begin RP*****
luckily for Dostin he still had a secret stash of his special brew, a mixture of long lsender red beans from deep of the Thalian jungles, dark beans that only the most exquiste restaruants had and fubu nuts,the sweetest kind from the planet Kiminoto, while waiting for his java to brew he checked the messages being sent down from the main ship.

"What is this junk?" Dostin grumbled the reply came shortly

"Some garbled message from a cybernetic smurf"

"Wha?" the froggish alien scratched his head and started to snack on sushi made from Jar Jar Binks
*********Paues RP*******

SEVARIUS JR>You an me both, I think we are both suffering from the same allergies althoug I doubt you go through anaphalatic shock from asprin.

VISIONARIES>Now I Remember! The leader beacme a lion I think and the tough guy became a bear and the girl a dolphin.

Princess Estra> Another Moonie! there are others not to mention Ari-chan

GB>Spoiling kids...I know I was disipline either with a spaniking or standing in the corner, the croner would really freak you out if there was a spider there,

I think some parents wont disipline their kids is bacues they are afraid that someone might mistake it for abuse and call up HRS to have their kids taken away
HRS by the way sucks down here the take kids away from loving familys because of disipline yet little children get murdered by abusive parents,

A good example of tryiong to prevent a child from becoming spoiled is SMKing Endymion and Neo Queen Serenity raise Rini in a loving way but try not to spoil her...unfortuanly this creep tells Rini those reasons of not spoiling her is that her parents don't love her and....I'm, not going to Spoil it for those who hvent seen it.

*****Resume RP***********
Back with the Aria and wierd sisters. The Fey trio stared at the other set of girls who were becoming more like them.
"Look Luna these intruders are like chameleons"
"It seems Selene that all the magic they know is shape shifting,do you agree Phoebe?"
"It appears so maybe we should give them a taste of our powers."
***********************End RP******************************
"Enough Chit chat I'm Feeling Neglected" Wicked Lady SM
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, U.S.A
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:19:36 PM
IP: ts002d14.orl-fl.concentric.net

ok even when who should be even when you
darn typos
Anonymous
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:07:14 PM
IP: host-209-214-40-92.cha.bellsouth.net

Ok I know I am gonna miss stuff so

Fire storm be careful of the knee they are tricky to heal I know I got 2 bum ones (car wreck for one and jogging accident for the other).

Congrats and good luck to all the school goers

Jewel congrats on the car

Sorrow congrats on the date

Love> sorry my advice would suck on this subject so I can�t give any words of support. All I have in my life are �a bunch of pretty girls who I call friends. Loving it up at the hotel California�. The only warning I can give is don�t confuse sex with intimacy. Intimacy is the best thing in a relationship (ok all the guys are going bullsh*t, but it is true). Some one to hold hands, talk too, if you don�t have a closeness outside of the bedroom then well you don�t really have a relationship other than a sexual friendship.
Oops how did that soap box get under me sorry

Lottery> umm give the ticket to Elisa to cash and then buy things for the extended clan (mutates Elisa�s family, ect). Mabey do some garg publicity to get the publics opinion turned around to pro grag? Mabey a Movie showing them as heroic? Sorry I thought that tgc episode made since, and I could see fox doing it.

Corporeal punishment> getting spanked was the easy way out. Even when who had to bring in the tree branch to get hit with. Actually the worst thing I can do to my nephew is to make him sit in a corner and be still. He can�t stand to be bored. If I feel really mean I will take away the gargoyle videos ;)

ironwolf
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:04:42 PM
IP: host-209-214-40-92.cha.bellsouth.net

Sorry, I know about the one comment/person each day rule, but not answering Jenna would also be impolite, so I hope no one will get angry about this little violation...
(Would have answered her via mail if there would have been her adress...)
Jenna>I have to admit I was so greedy for the new avalon mists that I manually entered the internet-adress:)
There is no problem with your computer or internet account, for there is still the old link to the summer issue:)
Michael
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 01:08:45 PM
IP: stu1id1a.ip.tesion.net

Can someone put up a link to the current Avalon Mists? I just seem to be going to the old one....
jenna
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:38:55 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Christine>A very,very,very,very,very,very,very,very,very big congrats for the new issue of Avalon mists:)
(ha, first one!;)
Michael Heitz - [michael_heitz@bluewin.de]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:28:25 PM
IP: stu1id1a.ip.tesion.net

Sj-- I agree with you on your comments about spankings (ie corporal punishment)
Jenna
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 11:55:09 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Visionaries> Story was a little weak. In a post apocalyptic world (It's the 80's, everything in the future is of 'The Day After Motif') The balanace of power shifted from science and technology to magic. Chief guru and high potentate of magic around these parts was a guy named Merklin. And he called for champions to met this test of his and recieve magical powers needs to fit in with this new magical world. He got them, some good, some not so good, and gave them powers to change into certain animals, usually the animal characteristic they exhibited on the test. And enchanted banner staffs the would create a magic spirit. Later on, they got vehicles powered by magic. The good guys formed a loose Justice League, while the bad guys cowered under the cold calculating leadership of their chief bad guy. Merklin was neutral in all this. Seeing both sides as pawns to be used for some ulterior plan.

It was ok, but compared to other series, especially Gargoyles and Pirates of Dark Water, it's pretty weak.

Don't mind me, if it's animated and been shown in America in the past thirty years, I've seen it.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 11:19:53 AM
IP: 134.71.32.54

I don't hit my kids. I don't have to. I find waving the gun around gets the message across just fine. - Denis Leary.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 10:41:42 AM
IP: ppp-55.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Hi all!!

2:Hi Deuce,do come back soon.

Pinky and the Brain:So t's finally been cancelled huh!,Oh well after they added Elmyra the show just lost it's appeal:(

Jenniren:When a chicken has its head cut off and is running around, is the neck erupting blood the whole time?>>It's spurts because the heart is still pumping blood.(have you ever seen someone cut one of their arterie's?)

Fire Storm:Rip out your assistant managers throat? NO! Don't do that! It's too good for a manager. WAY too quick.
TORTURE is the best way to get rid of a manager.>>Yeah that would be more fun>:)but right now I'm just trying to make myself as annoying as possible just to get on his nerves:)

Love:Hasn't happened to me yet.(Barring crushes):(

shogun raptor:YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE? YOU'RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY!>>Been a while since I heard Guns 'n Roses!:)

Wilek re assistant manager:<hehehe> Can we say...Joyride? >8)>>Yes we can,we will use his intestines as jump ropes(While he's still alive of course>:))

Pistoff:From the "365 Stupidest Things Ever Said"--sign on a bathroom door in Taipei, Taiwan: OUT OF ODOR>>Better send my dad in,he'll fix that problem:)

Pistoff re Do-it-yourself Brain Surgery:Nope no brain to be found in there,probably some moths but no brain:)

It's late and I'm starting to act stupid,guess it's time to hit the sack:)
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 09:18:59 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Just a couple of screwed-up things I thought I'd toss out here...

From the "365 Stupidest Things Ever Said"--sign on a bathroom door in Taipei, Taiwan: OUT OF ODOR

And here's something a friend of mine sent me a while back, from a collection of articles taken from newspapers all over the country....

Do-it-yourself Brain Surgery?! In Ohio, an unidentified man in his late twenties walked into a police station with a 9-inch wire protruding from his forehead and calmly asked officers to give him an X-ray to help him find his brain, which he claimed had been stolen. Police were shocked to learn that the man had drilled a 6-inch deep hole in his skull with a Black & Decker power drill and had stuck the wire in to try and find the missing brain.

:O
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 03:22:43 AM
IP: wire-7.koalas.com

Forgot a couple things.

RP Note: $ Gubio and Mist are still with us, they're in the cell with Lathrop and Orion. Kit and I just left them out of our earlier posts by accident. <whoops> They're alright, though Gubio is pissed that the bad guys stole his computer. Hope we all get out soon, somehow. :) $

SJ: I agree with you about kids and parents these days. Better to have a disciplined child than a spoiled rotten one, but what parent in this day and age is willing to do discipline and knows how to do it right? Very few of them IMO. :( Hope me and Kitainia aren't among their number if we ever have kids.

Night.
Doug
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 02:40:52 AM
IP: pool-207-205-149-2.dlls.grid.net

****BEGIN RP!!!****
"I just can't wait to finally see you all dead." Pastor John remarks. "You looks like you'd turn into a nice fur coat." he says pointing at Jaden.
Jaden, looking rather animal like, responds, "You come near any of us and I will personally feast on your dark heart."
To be continued.
****END RP****
Well that wasn't the RP I was planning to post. I was going to do something before our group was captured, but I can do it later. No problem...if we survive. ;)

I must be damned. Damned to have teachers leave just when I'm getting used to them. During the summer I had three different Chemestry teachers and it was only a 6 week class. I now have a new speech teacher and I don't even know what happened to the other guy. Did they all go insane or what? I know it's not my doing sinse I only met the last teacher once and I can't drive someone insane after only one meeting. I'm good, but I'm not THAT good.
Anyway...

Argent--Two years for braces is nothing believe me I know and you'll get use to them. By the way Congrats.

On love-eeeeeeee that's a touchy subject. All I can say is that I hope I can meet someone who will totally capture my heart. I want this person to be the first thought when I wake up and the last thought when I go to sleep. To be intellectually and physically stimulated when we are together. These are some of the parts of a love relationship that I'm looking for.

Well I'm going to sleep.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 01:30:15 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

geez, two posts in one day, you can tell i'm bored! ah, well. there's nothing i like more than spending a cheerful morning at the hospital (the only thing i hate more than hospitals are caves. i'm claustrophobic and-- whatever afraid of hospitals and sick people are, i'm that). fighting with my brother (naturally) FINALLY finishing my Kunzite/Zoisite fanfiction and then spending the rest of the day in my peejays catching up to TGS. well, at least the day's been getting better. except my best girl friend keep complaining about this guy who likes her, whom she claims she doesn't like, but nonetheless manages to end up in the conversation every time i IM her! (my AIM screename is WCHaruka, if you're interested)

yack, yack, yack... like you care! oh well, i'm going to make you as bored as i am @ the moment! school starts on thursday ^^;

shogun: gotta love Guns 'n Roses! "Welcome to the Jungle" would make a good basis for a gargoyle fanfiction...hmmm

Wilek: thanx for the info, i kind of got the drift that that was how it worked, my problem is keeping up with it!

On Love: what can i say? the only guy i ever had any sort of relationship had sex w/ other girls (i didn't ever do that w/ him, Jr. High, come on!), besides going out w/ them. he helped steal a laptop from the school, skipped school constantly, lied pathologically, took drugs... *sigh* i'm tired of listing things. i kicked him out of my life, but i still think of him a lot. i'm quite a strong character, but i worshipped him. it was disguisting. as for my relationships before and after the *BLEEP*ing *BLEEP* hole, every time i fall in love w/ some one, it turns out horribly. so far. and ever since a recent discovery in my life, all the people i've fallen in love with are girls, and that doesn't help me out at all...

maybe i'll RP tomorrow
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Virtual Insanity
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 01:13:37 AM
IP: abd174ce.ipt.aol.com

Really quick post before the strock of midnight. After a whole lot of asking nicely and some help from you guys I sat my mother down-right after we watched the real world-And finally showed her Awakening part one. I'll explain all the detailes tomorrow after school but now before sleep rears it's beautiful face I just have enough energy to say THANK THE DEAR LORD.I'll make a really long post at about three O' clock so get ready.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Goodnight my ever so mysterious rookery brothers and sisters.
night walker - [Goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 01:10:30 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

***BEGIN RP****
"Okay, let's see what we have to work with...." SJ said as he stared at the numerous articles belonging to the *late* Jim Iza Noying that he and Kari had collected. "Hmm....a toothbrush, slightly used. Maybe.....a hairbrush with some of his hair still in it. Promising.....ah! A used bandaid, with what looks like some dried blood on it!"
"That is so gross," Kari said, disgusted. "That can't be sanitary."
"Had to dig in the trash for that one!" the young scientist grinned triumphantly. "Well, it's not much, but it's all we have to go on. We'd better act quickly. We need to get to my lab and whip this stuff up, pronto!"
And so, with that, SJ and Kari retreated back to the Scimitar to make the journey to SJ's Washington D.C. lab.....
***PAUSE RP****

Still fighting with something, could be a cold, could be allergies. It's one of those deals where it's not bad enough to incapacitate you, so you can still go about your daily functions, but you feel awful anyway. I'd kill Sli Sludge if I had the energy.

Comic News: In what could be one of the most shocking events in the world of comics--ever--it appears now that DC Comics could stand to LOSE half of SUPERMAN!!! See, the families of Supes creators Siegel and Shuster are claiming they own half the rights to the character, and all assorted properties. If this turns out to be true....DC loses half of Supes. Do you know what this means? It means that Siegel and Shuster's heirs can take the character, and do pretty much what they want with it, as it's half theirs. They could legitimately make their own Superman movie, license their own Superman merchandise....hell, we could see a totally different version of a Superman comic! This is way too freakin weird! Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Spoiling a Child: Well, I've taken some Child Psychology, and they teach you that corporeal punishment (spankings, essentially) is not the best way to go. I'm somewhat torn on that. Spanking was used with me as a child, although rather sparingly. It was also coupled with love and understanding. But you know what? If I got my ass tanned by one of my parents, I learned real quick not to do whatever the hell I was doing wrong.
The problem is, I think that in our country today, we are not as parents responsible enough to spank our children. Most folks who don't care enough for their children don't give them enough discipline, but seeing how some of these folks are irresponsible in their own personal lives, I myself would never let them spank a child. That's how abuse starts. You have a parent who's not responsible, they give their child corporeal punishment....only they hit them too hard, or maybe too often....I'm not for spoiling the child, but with parents today, I'm not sure if spanking is the way to go.

Christine: Nope, Liv Tyler is supposed to be Arwen. The press, not exactly the most Tolkien literate folks out there, are listing her as the "Queen of the Faeries". I suppose because of her connection to Elrond or something. I think it's sad, personally, that a talented actor like Ian McKellen gets the part of Gandalf, one of the main leads, but Liv "I can't act to save my life" Tyler gets top mention in USA today for her bit part.

Pinky & the Brain: A mercy killing, perhaps. When I heard that Pinky and the Brain were going to have new episodes, I rejoiced. When I heard they added Elmyra, I began to grieve. I knew she'd kill the show; she worked well enough on Tiny Toons, but come one! Pinky and the Brain work just fine with just Pinky and the Brain. I wish the head honchos over at WB realized that.

***RESUME RP***
"What the heck is this?" SJ said as he prepared to take off in the Scimitar. "Looks like the ship's communications picked up a transmission while we were inside looking."
He quickly played the message--that of the evil cybernetic Smurf. SJ listened to the tiny being's challenge, and seethed with anger. "Great," Kari mused. "Just what we need--more trouble."
"Yeah, it never ends," SJ agreed. "We'd better hurry up and get our work done before Monday--I have a feeling the others are gonna need our help in taking this blue schmuck down."
****END RP FOR NOW****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 01:06:45 AM
IP: 207-172-118-110.s110.tnt13.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Just stumbled accross an interesting Pocahontas piece that compiles all the music into a 20 minute montage. I really didn't care for the movie, but this montage is kinda neat and I thought I'd share it. But, its a geocities addy, so I can't just give a link... SO, copy and paste the addy below and enjoy!

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/2489/pocahontas.mid
Robby the CR DJ
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:50:30 AM
IP: spider-we054.proxy.aol.com

**RP Here**
Kaioto gathered himself off the floor quickly as the hail of bullets Galante telekinetically launched embedded themselves in a wall. He stalked forwards in a low lope, his sword-point hanging near the floor � then paused. He glanced over his shoulder, then took another purposeful step towards the devil. Then he did a full double take and took three steps back towards the nearest wall and hefted his katana blade over his right shoulder � and used his left hand to scratch his head a moment.
His eyes viewed the incineration of the corporeal form of the Vrock demon with passive eyes. Shrugging, he set his blade back into the ready position and mumbled something about, "Works for me."
Raising his blade into the high stance, he charged forwards and hacked down Galante's skeletal scythe while he distractedly glared at the Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts. Changing his grip on his blade, he let it slide up and across the handle of Galante's weapon. The motion of the minor devil to free his weapon simply aided the katana blade on it's way cleaving through the unnatural, unholy skeletal structure that made up the new corporeal for of the former Bishop.
Galante went to pieces, literally.
Smirking, Kaioto bent down and takes the infernal skull into his hands.
"I new him well, a man of infinite arrogance, er jest � yeah. Teach you to spend more time swinging the weapons and less time leering at mini-skirts," he quipped, then he readied to crush it to a fine powder.
"Gaah!" He cut his shout off to a gurgling roar of pain as the Seeker kicked backwards, flinging off the skeletal claws trying to sever his hamstring. "OW!" he dropped the skull to the floor like a hot potato as it bit his ring finger.
**Pause RP**

$Green Baron: Hm � well, that was unexpected � interesting, but unexpected. Tossed all my prewriting out like yesterday's cookies. This looks like fun, but warn me next time, K? *grins as he crumples up a wad of scribbled notes over his shoulder.*

Hm � Eat, sleep and be merry, for tomorrow we quit work. Yup, last day tomorrow. Fat, bloated American consumer beware. Muhahaha �

Well, at least I have an appointment now so my dad and I can scream at the financial aide people on Friday. What a fun way to get ready for the wedding rehearsal for my sister, eh? This is going to be an Interesting weekend.

Love: What can I say about love? I never looked for it, really. I thought I'd wind up alone, and was fine with that. I was very content to work towards my goals of charity work and influence with friends and family at my side. The idea of being a priest also crossed my mind. Then this silly little girl just walks into my life and becomes my friend. She supports and nurtures me, and I her. Slowly, we keep baring more and more of our souls to each other, for no explainable reason. Something keeps drawing us into trust � we are soulmates. And then, slowly � everything else falls into place. Emotions bond more intimately � We've met physically now. We were not disappointed. Everything about the 90s says we are moving backwards, but everything about his relationship says we have built the proper foundation of the heart first, and then let the physical and social issues build themselves. *shrugs* Works for Liz-chan and I. We didn't meet because one of us spied the other's cute physical attributes and went looking for tail. We didn't meet because we were desperately seeking acceptance and support. *shrugs* It just happened. *grins* My Liz-chan's physical beauty was certainly a delightful surprise, however. *smiles softly* Maybe we didn't go about it in the "right" way, but neither did we break up after a few weeks. 10 months stands for something in the 90s at least � I'd say, just let be. Be yourself, and be compassionate towards others. Don't be afraid of letting others into your heart. Something that is missed in popular culture is that in pursuing love, the goal is not to get into someone's pants, but to get into their heart. The heart part is a lot harder generally, but it is a lot more rewarding. I'd say, be the best friend to everyone that you can be, and let the grand motion of the Heavens take their sway. Just be. Once you have it, hold on with both hands. It is something worth living for, and something worth dying for, love. And that is not always limited to a relationship either, though we generally talk about relationship love as more significant that other kinds.

Lottery Contest Winners: *L* That would be entertaining. Hm � Brooklyn in his younger days would've been after the motorcycles so fast your head would spin. 40 years later � I wonder �

Ah well, the night grows short.
Dream of the Light,

**Resume RP**
"Tough little bugger, eh?" he muttered, shaking off his hand as he warily regarded the various pieces of bone and cartilage trying to gather themselves back together, shrouded in darkness.
He leveled his sword once more and searched for an appropriate seam through which to banish this damned soul back to the Hell where it belonged. Searching � searching � "Got it � what � uh oh �" he blinks, refocusing his eyes. He turns around to see the Catholic Schoolgirl scouts, already aiming their relics and suck to bear on the reforming Galante. "Don't!" he raised a desperate hand, a few seconds too late. The very fabric around the fields of Celestial and Infernal forces began to buckle and give way. Kaioto could've sworn he saw the skull of the damned Bishop grinning �
"I'll do one better than call Ted, my dear," the dry, menacing voice cackled softly �
Kaioto sighed and turned to Tom. "If you've got any plasma weaponry in anywhere, it would be a good time to cough it up �"
Tom stared at the dimensional tear that was now a spinning vortex where once stood a wall, and the black, shadow-shapes beyond it, rushing towards them all. He swallowed hard, nodded, and ran for the cache in the trunk of his car.
Kaioto hefted his sword and blocked the pain from his bleeding calf out of his mind as he watched the first pair of new bone devils burst forth into the Earthrealm and set upon the Scouts. He tuned out his normal eyes and began to work with auras alone � he had to keep focus on Galante. If he lost him in the ranks of the other identical servants of the Infernal � he shook his head at the prospects of fighting off a few dozen "minor" devils and ducked the first piece of telekinetically charged furniture.
**End RP**

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:40:33 AM
IP: 1cust221.tnt2.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

**LONG RP!**

[At the request of the Administrator, two members of Wilek's team have gathered in an open area on the Avatar Of Ganon, namely Forfexx, Dark Mage Wilek and Anoth Mitaxis. As they're beginning to wonder just why they're here, the Administrator arrives, with Agent Rho and Wilek's Borg clone (who the Administrator has finally given a name). The Administrator looks at the small group and proclaims, "The three of you have been chosen for this mission because of your unique abilities. Two of you are accomplished magic users, and you, Forfexx, are a nearly invincible warrior. Together, your power may be enough to defeat the commander of the Dark Star II." Anoth: "I quite closely examined the recording you showed us, Agent Rho. If I'm not too much mistaken, our 'foe' is less than a foot in height." DMW: "You can't be serious." Forfexx: "I shall enjoy stepping on him <hehehe>." Administrator: "Small he may be, but he has access to dangerous technology. You will be sent to disable our enemy if possible, or kill him if necessary, and assimilate his station." DMW: "Assimilate it? How?" Administrator: "Decius--" the name she's given Wilek's Borg clone-- "will accompany you."]

**PAUSE RP!**

Fire Storm> <> O_o My condolences, friend. <shudder> I hope that computer isn't permanently ruined. <<Hurt my knee VERY badly while trying to run up the steps. Now it's all swollen and painful.>> AACCKK!! Are you under some manner of curse?! Where did I leave my spellbooks...

Kaioto> <<Is it s bad thing when you feel compelled to write quatrains about the End of the World?>> o_O' Er...only if you're not in a fit of depression at the time...

Robby> <<Pinkie and the Brain HAS been cancelled.>> Eh?! Shoot. (Although, on the upside, it means I no longer have much competition...<muhahaha>)

Xanathar> <> <hehehe> Can we say...Joyride? >8)

GB> <> By the gawds, you're evil! :P <<Princesses and a Baron. Any other title nobility in the room?>> Well, Lady Arianna of Annwn stops by every once in a while.

Two> We enthusiastically await thy return. ^_^

Aaron> <<Hmmm, this doesn't look like Astronomy 101. More like Abnormal Psychology.>> Actually it's both, plus a smidge of Escherian geometry, amateur psychometry, intermediate world domination 202, and a bit of Home Ec. <glances at his latest Mr. Disconnect recipe> Where did I leave my scorpion venom...

$Princess Estra> <<well, i'm not going to RP, because truthfully i ain't got a clue what an RP is!>> Think of it as a round-robin fanfic (I think that's what they're called).$

Kitainia> <<he deserves a joyride by air courtesy of yours truly. (So do the people who thought up the concept of ratings being used to judge a show's quality rather than characters, plots, etc.>> Amen, sister. That kind of idiocy is directly responsible for the cancellation of Gargoyles--despite its obviously spectacular quality, it somehow failed to recieve equally spectacular ratings. <sigh> <<it definitely goes on my top ten list for perfect theme songs.>> Interesting. Some of my favorite themes are the TGC one (natch), the TGS Timedancer one, the Omen trilogy themes, the Mars Attacks theme, the Airplane theme, and the Futureworld theme. Among others. <<How does everyone in here think our favorite Gargoyles characters would respond to winning the lottery?>> Hm...fascinating question...I like to think (though I'm probably wrong) that Elisa would buy a nice house or something. With several balconies of course. <g> The mutates would probably use it to help the homeless, much like they do now, but more so. Lex...would buy a humongo gigando server-class computer system (or rather, the necessary components to build his own). Jon Canmore...<shudder> I don't want to know. Dingo...for some bizarre reason, I'm inclined to think he'd start a business or something.

SOROW> <<No, I haven't seen Omen II. What's it about?>> Damien Thorn, adolescent nephew of Thorn Industries CEO Richard Thorn, discovers that he is the is the Antichrist (and here I thought it was Dean Devlin, or perhaps Haim Saban). Fun ensues. There's an incredible twist ending that I won't spoil here but trust me, you never see it coming.

$Doug> <<Ted Turner owns Warner Bros., right? And he's an RP villain. Maybe later we can invade his studios and get Pinky, Brain, and the Warners' help to beat up Ted and his colleagues.>> Oh how I like the way your evil little mind works. >:) $

Visionaries> To my surprise, I've never heard of this, and it sounds interesting too. What was it about?

Christine> <<it is supposed to be posted tomorrow, but I'm having a bit of trouble ... the last crash over at wyvernweb scuttled my password.>> Shoot! And I was really looking forward to this one. <delivers a bound and gagged Mr. Disconnect for Jericho and Demona to play with>

**RESUME LONG RP!**

[Rho: "We have until Monday to prepare for the invasion. <glances at Anoth> I take it that, for you and the Dark Mage, this would involve meditation or some such?" Anoth: "Something to that effect." DMW: "Training--sparring--may also be beneficial; it's been some time since we've seen the front lines." Forfexx: "We can get started now if you'd like." Agent Rho looks dubiously back and forth between the Greek Catholic halfling and the clone gargoyle mage with the pentagram tattoos, then casts a sidelong glance at the insane immortal. Rho: "Just try not to kill each other. We'll leave you alone for now. Decius, make certain they don't get too carried away." Rho and the Administrator open the sliding door which marks the exit to the gym...only to find Darth Jashin sitting there in his sinister Xavieresque hoverchair. Jashin: "What's this about a battle of some kind...?"]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:27:18 AM
IP: tnt-2-151-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Doug > it looked good to me! Thanks! You know, one day you'll write a _short_ story and I'll go into shock ... ; )

AvMists > it is supposed to be posted tomorrow, but I'm having a bit of trouble ... the last crash over at wyvernweb scuttled my password. Still working on it.

Lord of the Rings > okay, today's paper said Liv Tyler is going to be "Queen of the Fairies." I'm assuming they mean "Queen of the Elves," which would be Galadriel. Because we all know Titania sure isn't going to be there!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:18:57 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Hmm, kinda slow room today...

**NEW SHOW REVIEWS AND POSSIBLE SPOILERS**

SOnic Underground- I saw the second episode of this today. And as most of you know, I'm one of the biggest Sonic fans around. Thats why I ALMOST watched the entire first act. This show is utter trash. The premise of Sonic having two sibling and magical instruments is bad enough. Having a villain that transforms into blunt objects even worse. The song numbers are lousy, but worst of all besides the writing... The voices are terrible. The villains are not in the least villanous, you can't take them seriously, and Jaleel White voices THREE characters. he does the voice of Sonic just fine, but Manic sounds almost EXACTLY the same, and IO'm sorry, but Jaleel While, (aka the Urkel kid) should NEVER voice a female character. The show has okay animation, but that is the end of it. I am never again wasting my time on this show, even if I'm bored.

Starship Troopers episode 2- The animation is starting to bother me. Its so dark, that its hard to see much. Yes, I understand mood setting, but there's not nearly enough lighting. Add to that the characters all look pretty much the same in that armor of theirs, and so for, its hard to get into the show. However, the voices are good, and the writing is definatley mature, (So the show can't possibly last at an 6:30 AM timeslot)and there were some very witty one liners, such as "Nothing from nothing is still nothing." "What was that?" "Nothing!" The show has a lot of potential, and after I know the characters better I may see this episode again and love it, but right now, the characters aren't too distinct, there's no real villain, and it seemed like mindless action to hunt down and blow up some bugs. This may improve, and I hope it does, because the show has a lot of potential. (There needs to be some individual character episodes, we can't meet anybody if every episode focuses on the team.) I'll give this show a bit longer, but I don't know... I'm sure it'll get really good when Greg comes in, but he doesn't come in until like episode 20...

**END REVIEWS AND SPOILERS**

If gargs won the lottery- Well, I imagine if any of the gargs one, first things first, they would buy one thing they really wanted. With Brooklyn, a bike. Lex, a computer, Broadway, a kitchen set. (Tho Xanatos has probably provided all this anyway...) Then they'd pay back Elisa no matter who got it, and then split the rest with the clan. But again, they live with Xanatos and gargs aren't all that much into material possessions, so I don't believe it would be that big a deal for any of them.

Love- I never expected it to happen to me at all until I was like 25. I had no clue what it was about and then about 10 months ago I met Heather. Around December I had realized I was feeling something special, and I've felt extremely lucky since. I regret I don't always have the time to dedicate to her that she deserves, especially as of late, but love is something you can't fight once it hits, if it is actually love, and usually you don't see it coming. But its worth it when ya find it.

Spoiled children- I hate it when parents do that. Because just to pull an example, you end up with evil demon children like Angelica from Rugrats. Spoiled kids are the WORST, no question about it.

Um, I'm going to repeat a request now to all RPers...
PLEASE, WHEN RPING, TRY TO MAKE THE POST AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE RP. I'm fairly leniant about this, and I've had my own share of posts where the RP was longer than the rest of the post, but when there is an entire two screens of RP and then just a couple lines of post, (40 lines of RP and about 10 of comment) it seems as if you are only throwing that bit in to obey the rule of no all RP posts, not because you genuinely have something to say. Out of consideration to the CR and all its readers and poster, I ask all RPers to try and keep RP and post of at least equal length. Thank you.

And on that note...

**RP HERE**

Aboard the Dark Star Two, the evil cybernetic smurf smiles wickedly, hits a button, and the ship cloaks to await Monday when the challengers will arrive.
he cyber smurf then examines his small group of genetically enhanced Pokemon Ratatats. They will be useful in the upcoming battle...
Robby
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:13:32 AM
IP: spider-we023.proxy.aol.com

Hi everyone, not lmuch time to read I will have to catch up after I'm done
David G>>>very good!!!! sent email tonight, will send edit tommorrow night.
>>>Gross Question answer...Butchers kill cattle in ksuch a manner as to leave their heart beating to pump out all the blood....so heart of the chicken would still be beating so lots of blood.
Gotta get to bed
catch ya'll on the flip flop

delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:12:14 AM
IP: 207.14.195.93

Xanathar: Rip out your assistant managers throat? NO! Don't do that! It's too good for a manager. WAY too quick.
TORTURE is the best way to get rid of a manager.

Green Baron: I TOTALLY agree that spoiling a child is worse than beating them. I have a cousin that is totally spoiled and can basicailly do whatever she wants. She is now 7 and they just got her off the M&M's and cucumber diet she held for 4 or 5 years. (Now, the other two kids from other marriages...)

Love: It usually hits you when you least expect it. I had a girlfriend at the time and I met this very nice looking girl with brown hair (and a nice looking body! :) that sat in front of me in sign language. We talked when we could, then one day, she disapeared. Apparently she became sick and I never saw her again in class...
...but lunch was an entirely different story all together.
I started to sit with a friend the next semester when lo-and-behold, there was that cutie again! Our mutual friend went to sit with others, and we talked and talked, and basicailly just enjoyed each others company. She got sick again, and... (Well... never mind what happened.) ...a month later, she returned, and I was happy to see her. I asked her to my senior prom soon after (acting like a fool, all nervous. Well... I looked like a fool in MY eyes bonnieway.) Soon after, she told me that she loved me and I was floored, TOTALLY not expecting that and had already became (Forced myself to be) content with just being friends. At that point, I had tired of dating and we both were actually happy being single.)
Before prom, I kissed her (Ok... I REALLY felt like a fool during THAT.) Prom came and went... Then the Moody Blues concert...
I wonder what ever happened to her.
<Holds LM even closer.>

But don't worry. For everyone that dosn't have someone right now, you may meet someone later in life (LM's parents in their mid-late twenties, all three of my uncles who were married around 37-40, LM's cousin at 30), get re-aquainted with someone from earlier in life, or a current friend that you will eventually have a SUCCESSFUL relationship with.
Love is DEFINATELY strange.

SORROW: VERY congratulations! If his touch makes you feel that good...
As for the computer, don't worry. I can't figure out why they suddenly start working either.

Coyote: Cursed Hardware: Man, I must be VERY un-lucky then! MOST of the computers I have had must have had cursed hardware.
ALSO, did you get any response from your love about the PocketMail do-hickey I had at the Gathering?

<WARNING! STUFF AHEAD. WARNING!>

No one in the CR noticed a dark shadow of the CR get darker still, nor did anyone feel the teperature of the area lower. But everyone could feel that there was a presence in the CR, darker, evilier, and more twisted than anyone in the CR has ever met, save one. Fire Storm knew this presence from his travels, one that he had hoped never to meet again.

(Clarification: Based on a premise from a future fic-series. Already all written, just waiting to publish it when the 'time' is right.)

<WARNING! END STUFF! WARNING!>
Fire Storm (with assistance from Lady Mystic of the Temporals) - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, September 1, 1999 12:01:05 AM
IP: 216.90.45.153

**RP HERE**

Outside the gates of Area 51-A, a bunch of children led by Bart and Lisa Simpson are trying to push their way through the gate. "Go away, kids!" the guard shouts at them. "This facility is highly classified! You're not even supposed to be here!!" "Eat my shorts," Bart snaps, he and the others continuing to shove at the fence. They are forced to scatter as a gray VW Rabbit comes out of the gate, nearly flattening the guard in its haste. "Ha ha!" Nelson laughs at him. Behind the wheel of the Rabbit, FBI Agent Janice Ripowski grimaces as she pushes a series of buttons on the dashboard. "I have to find help for them," she whispers. "Quickly. Now." The last button she pushes turns her car into a super-fast MIB-style LTD, which jets down the interstate at incredible speed.

Meanwhile inside Area 51-A's deepest dungeon, the Ravens are shaking their heads as they consider their predicament. "We're dead," Keith declares. "No weapons, no explodo-molars, locked electroshock door. There's no way out. I just wish I could see the face of the man who put us here before we die." "Why's that?" Doug asks. "I want to spit on him," the cynical ninja grins. Kitainia smiles. "Join the club." Suddenly they hear the sound of maniacal chuckling. "What's that?" asks Boris. "Oh no," Doug groans. "I think I know that laugh."

**RP OVER FOR NOW, WILL BE CONTINUED AT END OF POST**

Greetings. Thought I'd post tonight, so here goes. My day went well, despite the fact that like Kitainia I have a boring foriegn professor in one of my classes. <sighs> Oh well, the books are pretty detailed, so I can probably learn from them than his lectures. It wouldn't be the first time I've had to do that, so it's no problem. :) Good thing there's not much homework due in that class.

Fanfic Progress: Making strides with Protected Species Part 2. Just finished the scene where Moro takes on the Silver Samurai. One heck of an intense battle. :) The big fight with Taro still has several scenes left, and then I have to finish the story, so it'll be a while before it comes out. Especially since school is going on now. :( Give me a couple weeks or so, I'll try to have it out sooner but can't make any promises. Hope it ends up being worth the wait.

Gunjack, Mera: Forgot to tell you two congrats on your relationship. So I'm telling you now. :)

Visionaires: I remember that show too. Didn't watch it much (it came on too early in the morning) but the eps I did see I liked.

SOROW: Once again, congrats on finding love. Have fun at Homecoming. BTW, Kit was just talking about a normal breakup in her post earlier. Of course, if he really turns out to be a slimeball, your idea might be justified. But that probably won't happen. In fact, we're sure it won't. Right? <grin>

Sorry to hear they're scrapping Pinky and the Brain. I've always enjoyed that show. Animaniacs too. <sighs> $ Hey, this gives me a great RP idea. Ted Turner owns Warner Bros., right? And he's an RP villain. Maybe later we can invade his studios and get Pinky, Brain, and the Warners' help to beat up Ted and his colleagues. Hmm. :) $

Love: Coyote, Jenna, and 2 have already pretty much voiced the truth of it, IMO. Don't despair, Mary, someday you're sure to find someone. I wish you luck in it. Maybe not actively looking is the right way to go about it. I know I wasn't looking too hard for love when I found Kit. What happened was the best thing in my life so far, no question about that, but I never looked for or expected it (okay, so I did hope, pray, and wish for it some, but I didn't exactly expect my dreams to come true). Maybe the same thing will happen with you someday. Hope you get a "best friend with benefits" when the time comes, IMO just about all good relationships involve people who are each other's best friends.

2: We'll be eagerly awaiting your return, man. Thanks for coming in when you did. <thumbs-up>

Tim P: You base fanfic characters off yourself and people you've known too, huh? Glad I'm not the only one. <grin>

Gargoyles Lottery Winners: Goliath would probably at first be curious as to what exactly the lottery is. Then Hudson would tell him (knowing from TV), and he'd smile. I think Broadway would rejoice after winning, but then most of his money would be gone after a month of dining out. Lex would also be glad to win since it could help him buy all the new computer stuff he wants. Matt would probably retire early on the money, spending the rest of his days chasing down conspiracy leads. :) Not sure about the other characters, anyone else have any ideas?

Shogun: $ Good RP, but I have a request- the Ravens' former government liasion is coming to lead you to where we are (she's gone over to our side now, why will be revealed later). Can you (and everyone else) please wait for her to contact you, Tom, and Kaioto before making any rescue attempts? Thanks. Also, don't forget about the demons and devils lurking nearby (Kaioto tells me Galante's about to call in a whole bunch of his friends). $

Can hardly wait for Avalon Mists this week, partly because it will have my story. (I'm assuming I didn't need to rewrite it, right, Christine? Thank goodness. :) And since it's slow right now, that's all for tonight.

**RESUME RP**

The source of the laughter steps out into the light, causing several of the Ravens to gasp. "P-p-pastor John?" Kitainia stammers. "But we killed you!" "That's what you thought, sinners!" the evil street preacher cackles. "But now I'm back, and stronger than I ever was before! You can't defeat the Lord's chosen one!! Soon you all will burn!" Doug growls and clenches his fists as the fiend continues his laughter. "You're not getting rid of us that easy, Pastor John," he snaps. "As soon as we get out of here, you're dead." "And what leads you to believe you'll be escaping?" another voice asks. Its owner steps out of the shadows to face the Ravens, who again growl in recognition. Keith looks especially upset. "Kincaid," he growls. "I should have known you'd be here." "Of course," the evil bureaucrat nods. "Did you really think I would miss out on the honor of conducting your execution?" "Gee, let me think," Jaden grimaces. "No!"

**MORE RP WILL BE COMING UP NEXT POST (including a bit on why Shap and Shauna aren't with the rest of us Ravens, for anyone who's wondering about their fate)**

Later!
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:37:19 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-38.dlls.grid.net

Green Baron: Oh, okay. :) Ehh...that sounds kinda sadistic, but to each his own. Actually, my parents tried to play those mind games with me once or twice. If you remember the revenge tactics I posted here a while back, you can pretty much guess why they stopped doing that to me. ;)

Aaron: Paladin Press? Uh, no. Actually, I just pick these quotes up here and there. I have them collected in a Word document on my hard drive. Whenever I find a good one, I add it to the collection. It's grown quite large... :)

Jenniren: (re: gross question) Hmm, I imagine that's exactly what would happen. :)

"I'm not a fast writer. I'm not a slow writer. I'm a half-fast writer." ---Robert Asprin
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:27:49 PM
IP: wire-5.koalas.com

*begin RP* Shogun, having brutally hacked open the hotel's soda machine for not taking his dollar bill, shook his head as he took another look at his dollar bill....it was a flattened out lump of thulium, no wonder it didn't take (cybercookie to whoever gets the reference there), he returned to the room with three other sodas to complement his for the other organic members of the group, but the shock that greeted him made him drop his payload of drinks in shock: the others were unconcious!, Doc was the first to revieve, shogun turned to the mechanoid
"Doc, what happened?"
"some evil guys in black suits took the ravens and knocked the others out"
"how did you see this?"
"I was inhabiting another shell at the time" the robot replied, gesturing to the unconcious cleaning lady"
Shogun was dumbstruck"
"what...how?"
"I think I should tell you, I'm not really a robot, I'm what the sentinel of this planet would call a "space spawn"
"what who would call a what?"
"long story short: I have no physical form, I exist as a brainwave pattern, my people are conquerors, I was exiled for my research into inhabiting machines rather than taking over other worlds for new bodies"
" I see, and you assumed her form to "blend in"
"Not really, she walked in on us, and I had to knock her out, so I inhabited her mind....and I found out something else most disturbing, pull on her ear"
Shogun did as his friend said, her face swung open and sitting in her head was a small blue creature with cybernetic enhancements
"what the"
"He was the advance scout for another of his kind"
"so we have another player in the game, friend or foe?"
Suddenly, the cybersmurf awoke and yelled "DIE FILTHY CREATURES!" the hands of his suit transformed into guns, shogun quickly dispatched him with an energy knife to the head
"well, that answers that question, let's head out to the van to track down those agents, did they say which way they went"
Doc had to think for a moment
"They mentioned area 51-A in Springfield, or rather that's what their license plate read"
"Springfield in what state?"
"good question"
"Wait a second, one of those ravens had an odd energy signature, I could sense it, and I could follow it"
The other deadly seven members regained conciousness, Fenrir was the first to speak
"what happened?"
Shogun gestured to their van parked outside
"no time to explain, let's hit the road sevens!"
*end RP*
well in an interesting bit of TV news, I saw the promo for the futurama season premiere, in involves a starship shaped like the Titanic, and to christen it, the break the Jar containing Leonardo Dicrappio's head across the bow
To all newbies> YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE? YOU'RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY! please check your sanity with Robby
* GRAPHIC! DC Mental cruelty*
Shogun straps DC to a chair, he impales his wife and kids on stakes and later impales him with the three of them
*end torture*
and also I'm working with my college newspaper, writing a top ten list, more bulletins as events warrent
Visionaries> I remember that show, I started collecting the figures but all I got was the villain leader, funny how most of my collections seem to start with the villains, that guy, I started my Beast wars collection with Rampage, but then I've always been partial to villains
shogun raptor
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:09:00 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net

**enters the room, switching out the candles. Closes his eyes and concentrates his intense feelings of love for she whom the candle burns for, finally lighting the candle's wick with his mind.**

Whew ... that took quite a bit out of me. **sits down shakily in the lawn chair**

License plate: No need to be feeling stupid ... a lot of folks it takes a while to get it. On the car, though, it's much easier since there's a decal on the rear window which completely spells out what the plate stands for. :)

Fire Storm: Hmm ... maybe your hardware is just cursed ...

Kaioto, re: poetry: Uhmm ... unless you're Nostradamus, I don't think it's too bad.

Green Baron: Hmm ... do I want to know exactly *what* kind of fun you two'll be looking for in Orlando? ;) j/k

Mary: **sigh** Though I concur with what Jenna and "2" have said about love and relationships, my own experience with it was much different. Y'know what I felt when I first fell in love?
Relief.
Y'know what I felt when I figured out how I felt for Ravyn?
*Tsunamis* of relief.
Both of those were followed by immense happiness. You'll know when the right thing comes along. It'll make you feel more intensely about it than anything you've *ever* felt. When love strikes, you'll never recover until the hunger it creates is finally satisfied.
And we'll be here for ye. **BIG hugs**

Kitainia, re: dull foreign profs: Sometimes I think the main reason why I never passed pre-calc in college was because all the teacher's aides for the course (at least the ones I had) were usually Asian (primarily Chinese), very soft spoken, spoke extremely broken English, and *routinley* became uproariously offended if you didn't understand every blasted thing they said the first time. :P
(of course the fact that I absolutely SUCK LIKE AN ELECTROLUX at anything mathematical that has to deal with anything more complex than making change might have also had something to do with it.)

**growls** big friggin' fingers!!! Get me in trouble every time. Ugggghhhhhh.

**sighs sadly, planting his chin in hand and fixating on the candle's flame, still burning brightly.**

Where *are* you, love?

**sighs again**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 09:57:59 PM
IP: 207.91.254.8

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Coyote the Bando - [1134@ik-is.com]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 09:34:32 PM
IP: 207.91.254.8

Hi guys, will post more later

*group hug* Thanks everyone for the support, I feel better!
Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 08:56:02 PM
IP: spider-wc032.proxy.aol.com

Special thanks to GB, Kaioto, Pistoff, Xanathar, Aaron, FireStorm, Kit, and everyone else who wished me the best on my new relationship! It was sooo cute today! He came up to me between classes and he touched my face and gave me that adorable smile... I almost melted!

SJ> Sorry. I was never able to see Seven. My mom wouldn't let me, but ha ha... I'll be 17 soon enough!

Wilek> No, I haven't seen Omen II. What's it about?

Kit> Would that happen to relate to the Lorena Bobbitt technique? Ohhhh, I'm BAD ;)

Firestorm> Thanks for the offer, but for some strange reason my computer is behaving now. Go fig...

Mary> Emotional detachment??? Awww, we'll always love ya! HUGZ
SOROW
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 06:29:52 PM
IP: dll2b112-26.splitrock.net

After seeing the first episode of "Starship Troopers," I figured "Well, that was the pilot. Maybe the next episode will be better." It wasn't. Just more "blow up the giant bugs" stuff. The CGI was interesting, but not very colorful. My brother and I were mildly amused to see the giant bugs blow great explosive fluorescent cyan farts out their backsides at the invading humans. I had to back up the tape to be sure I hadn't imagined it. Yup, that's what they did. They show anything on TV these days. Unfortunately, this was the most colorful part of the entire show. The dialogue was so corny it made me ill, there wasn't much plot, and even giant bug farts get stale after you've seen them a couple of time. If the series gets better let me know. I've got more enjoyable ways of wasting my time.

*****GROSS QUESTION ALERT*****
When a chicken has its head cut off and is running around, is the neck erupting blood the whole time?
*****END GROSS QUESTION ALERT*****

Sorry, I didn't know who else to ask and there are all sorts of knowledgeable people in here.

Jenniren
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 06:12:53 PM
IP: user-2ivf708.dialup.mindspring.com

**LONG RP HERE, AS YOU THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE <GRIN>**

"Sir! Sir!" Major Charleston shouts as he runs into the enemy base's briefing room. Thailog and the other bad guy leaders immediately turn from whatever they're doing to face him. "I was watching a Pauly Shore movie," Zale's aide answers their questioning glances. "But it suddenly got cut off!" "By this?" Tyl asks, pointing at the cyborg smurf's message being displaying on his computer screen. "Exactly!!" "Hmm," Thailog frowns as he listens to the new villain's words. "It seems we have some competition." "We need a decision, Thailog," says General Zale. "What are we going to do about this guy?" "I say we flay him alive," Asil suggests. "March right up there to his Dark Star weapon, rip the guy into several pieces and teach him a lesson, then seize his weaponry for ourselves." "We could always recruit him," Kharsus proposes. "That smurf could be a valuable asset to us. One never knows." Thailog thinks for a moment, then shakes his head. "We are going to leave the smurf alone," he declares. "Let Wilek Nereus and our other opponents expend their energy on fighting him. As soon as he is eliminated, Prime will begin his invasion, and the world will be unable to resist. When the smurf fails, we shall conquer. Is that alright with everyone?" Asil sighs but nods in agreement, the others merely nodding instead. "That will not be a problem for me," Phalanx Prime says. "Sevarius needs more time to reengineer the virus anyway. But no more than another month, Thailog. My patience is wearing thin." "Very well," the clone gargoyle nods. "Now let us return to going over our next arms requisition list to send to Gothmenes' cartel."

The screen's display changes to a large prison cell, which contains Jammer, Jaden, Keith, Boris, and Doug. Lathrop and Orion are in the cell to the left of it, and Kitainia, Stephanie, Tricia, and Elena are in the one to its right. Barred walls seperate them. "Ow," Kit winces as she awakens. "This bed isn't very comfortable, Doug. We ought to tell the motel guy..." Then she sees the bars on their cell door. "Oh s^*t!!!" "You said it," Keith (he and Jaden are the only other Ravens who're currently awake) agrees.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Greetings to all. Time for my first post of this week. :) This was the third day of the new semester for Doug and me, and on it we had our boring classes. <sighs> Mine include a government class where the professor speaks in a vague uninteresting heavily accented monotone you can barely understand (oh boy), and an economics class where instead of lectures they're trying to simulate the New York Stock Exchange. Or at least they were today. <sighs> Oh well, at least I have interesting classes on the week's other three days. And you have to take the bad with the good. So I guess I'll bear it. :(

Princess Estra: Welcome back! Sorry to hear about all the problems in your life, hope they're over soon. The best advice I can give you is to concentrate on whatever pleasant things you have besides the bad ones (I assume that includes us CR dwellers, surely there are other things too). As long as you can concentrate more on the good stuff than the bad, you can usually remain happy. Let me know if there's anything else a psychologist-in-training can do. Thanks for the hug.

Princess Mera: Welcome to you, newcomer. Congrats to you and Gunjack on finding one another. :)

SOROW: Congrats to you on your young love as well. May you have much fun at the upcoming dances. Hope the lucky guy's a sweet nice one and continues to be. You know what to do if he starts treating you the wrong way. <evil grin>

Kaioto, Lexy: Doug and I still haven't gotten your pics. Send them soon, please. The address is below.

Jewel: Congrats on graduating college (not sure if I said it to you already) and on the new car.

Robby: They canceled Pinky and the Brain? Argh!! <sighs> That stinks, I really liked that show. Wonder who put Elmyra in and ruined the ratings, he deserves a joyride by air courtesy of yours truly. (So do the people who thought up the concept of ratings being used to judge a show's quality rather than characters, plots, etc. but they're probably not as easily accessible. :)

Wilek: You saw that commercial too, huh? <sighs> I liked it as well. It and the one where Plucky Duck and the old man from Histeria are called "the greatest pairing of all time" and Plucky goes "Don't ask me about this, I just work here" are very expressive and good commercials IMO. They really forecast the mistakes WB has been making recently (i.e. canceling Pinky and the Brain and putting Histeria opposite Tiny Toons when they should have never given that awful show the greenlight in the first place). Someone in their commercial department (not the program schedule one) obviously has their head screwed on right and their heart in the correct place. If only the execs would listen more to that person! :)

Argent: Congrats on the new cousin, sorry about the braces (I've also gone through them, I know they are hell), and Welcome Back!!

The Edge: Another one of my top ten favorite Gargoyles episodes (the others are Hunter's Moon, Awakenings, City of Stone, Avalon, Deadly Force, Vows, The Price, and The Gathering). Xanatos and Goliath both really shine in it, thorough character development, plot, and animation. My favorite ep from the first season overall.

Airwalker: "Visionaries, visionaries, knights of the magical light! Visionaries, visionaries, with magical powers they fight!!" Yes, I remember that show. :) Its characters and plots were nothing special, but the animation was wonderful and it definitely goes on my top ten list for perfect theme songs. :)

Mary: Sorry to hear about your emotion problems. <sighs> But, you know, Jenna's right about love (thanks for saying it better than I ever could, Jen! And you, "2", hope you come back soon.). To paraphrase George Strait- You think you've had enough, you think you've given up, and then it hits you out of the blue clear sky. :) The person for you might appear tomorrow, he might appear in several years. He might show up in class, you might bump into him on the street and like him at first sight (that's what happened with Doug and me), or he might be an old friend you've known for a while who suddenly for some reason becomes more than that. He might be handsome. Or not. He might be smart. Or not. (Thinks of Marge and Homer.) Hopefully he'll be nice and sweet, and treat you like a man should treat a lady (if he isn't and/or doesn't, he's probably not the one IMO). So don't be afraid, you've got a long bit of life ahead of you. One day it will surely happen. Keep your fingers crossed, and always hope. :)

New Topic: There's something I've been wondering recently. How does everyone in here think our favorite Gargoyles characters would respond to winning the lottery? I think Brooklyn would shout "Woo Hoo!" and parade around jubilantly (then get angry when the Lottery Commission refuses to give him any money because he's a gargoyle). Xanatos might shrug it off as "just another extra million or two." Elisa would probably welcome it as a way to pay off all her various debts from the years she supported the clan. As for Demona, I can't see her ever buying a ticket, let alone winning. But one never knows. <grin> Any thoughts on how she or the other characters might react if they won?

And that's all for now. Later!

**RP RESUMED NOW**

The other Ravens who have been taken prisoner slowly awaken. most of them cursing or sighing loudly as they realize where they've ended up. "Does anyone know where we are?" Kitainia asks them. "Uh, I know this isn't dreamland," Jammer shakes his head. "The last thing I remember was Agent Tau bursting in on Tricia and my motel room, and shooting us with a dart pistol. You remember that, Trish?" His girlfriend nods. "Guess we've all been captured," she says. "Wonder why they haven't killed us yet." "Probably want to torture us first," Keith suggests. "Bad guys like to see people suffer." Doug looks around the cells and grimaces. "Uh, guys," he says. "Some of us are missing." "That's right!" Lathrop agrees. "Shap, Tom, and Shauna are all not here. Neither are our new friend Shogun and his associates. Maybe Agent Tau didn't capture them?" "I pray it is so," says Orion. "They are very resourceful people. If they can get Wilek and our other friends, and come to rescue us..." "We don't need them, Orion," Boris interrupts. "We can break out of here ourselves." He reaches out to touch the cage bars and cringes as they electrocute him. "Ouch!" "I already tried that," Jaden grimaces. "All our weapons are gone," sighs Elena, "so we can't use them. So's our gear." She tries to form a parasite energy beam but nothing happens. "And these cells are shielded against magic." Lathrop and Orion nod agreement after trying to cast spells of their own. Tricia then tries to form a psi-blast, but it fizzles as well. Stephanie shakes her head. "It looks like we're trapped," she sighs. "Maybe we can pretend to be sick and yell for the guards. That sometimes works in the movies." "Forget it," Doug advises her. "Real life guards are too smart to fall for that trick. It seems there's no way out of this." Then he smiles. "Wait a second. Anybody got a pair of pliers?" Kit holds up one of her hands. "My claws are just as strong. Why?" "My secret explodo-molar," her boyfriend chuckles. "The one I keep to blow open cell doors. I hope they didn't remove it." He checks his mouth and finds it missing. "Never mind. D'oh."

**WILL THE RAVENS ESCAPE THEIR CELL? TUNE IN NEXT TIME TO FIND OUT! BUT FOR NOW WE MUST END THE RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 06:11:54 PM
IP: pool-209-138-215-69.dlls.grid.net

hello, hello, hello! (three of me, say hello three times, makes sense, right?)

well, i'm not going to RP, because truthfully i ain't got a clue what an RP is! i mean sure i RPG all the time, computer, live, and e-mail ones (there's a link to a killer over e-mail RPG on my webpage, called the Gwenyfar Mission, check it out!), but i find it hard to follow...

Green Baron: don't think i got your e-mail. did you send it to my web page address? because i haven't checked that recently

Whoever it was who just got braces: i'm there with you, man! this is my second time around having them! but... i didn't kno you were allowed to eat tootsie pops, either...

Sci fi at three: what channel?? is it on cable?

Gargoyle eps on Disney: geez those are sooo sporratic! they show them sometimes for previews for their cartoon channel, but there's no way on the green earth that my parents are going to order the station for one show (no matter how much i love it!) besides all the cable we're getting right now we're not paying for... don't tell anyone!

hey, my grandfather is getting much better! they're moving him to a recovery home. or something.
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Insanity
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 05:58:16 PM
IP: abd0d907.ipt.aol.com

I'm about to Explode with Happiness...

sorry folks I'm just in a GREAT mood, maybe its becasue Dennis didnt hit Florida and the fact that the second phoneline has been installed...WOO_HOO!!!!!!!

Its also my brother's birthday. He has seen some episodes and he thinks Brooklyn is the coolest. of course this is the stuff he identifies with

Animal=Wolf
Pokemon=Archinine
Character on show=Brock
Element=fire
color=chrome
DBZ=Kurillin
70's show=Kelso
Animorphs=Ax

See weirdeness runs in my family.

*****RP*********
"You are not permitted to enter Avalon"Said the one with the silverywhite hair
"Return to whereever you come from"The blond said
Karina kept checking on Meleah's process wile studying The blond. Her pale hair slowly turned to the matching color of Phoebe's.she felt has her muscle strata and bonestructure changed to match the weird sister in front of her.
****End RP****
And Now KAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAMMMMMMAAAAAAAA! rainbow colored sprinkles settles down on everyone. those sprinkles are happy vibes so everyone can feel good.

Blows a kiss and leaves the room
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 03:37:46 PM
IP: ts003d39.orl-fl.concentric.net

<---- "If I dont find a bathroom soon, it's all over!"

Mary: Don't feel bad. I never dated anyone in highschool myself. All the girls there either liked going out with jocks or @$$holes or were ridden more often than a roller coaster.

The rest were just plain ugly. I have standards.

Mary Sues: What is a male Mary Sue called? I really don't use any "Mary Sues" as such in my fan-fic, but I do use a "Herman's Head" sort of thing. Some characters have certain aspects of my personality or they're loosely based on people I know. Like Mike Franks (my uncle), Kirk Willard(Kirk Wilson, my old Spanish teacher) and others.

On the subject of fan-fic, after Bio Day 3 failed to upload, I started to get alot of E-mails. They were all saying that they liked what I was writing and were concerned when Part 3 would be up. Where did all these letters come from? I thought my fan-fiction kinda sucked! It's the first time I have written anything for fun, and because of the slow rate that I put this stuff out I thought everyone would hate it! I though that only two peope had actually read this stuff. It's encouraging to get letters like this. Thank you.

Anyway, I wrote to the GFW staff about my moving problems and hopefully Part 3 will be up soon.
Tim P.
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 02:29:53 PM
IP: bn706-01.wsc.edu

Hmmm, this doesn't look like Astronomy 101. More like Abnormal Psychology. Oh well..

Robby>Dang! If you give me an approximate starting point, I could probably get you there. The only hitch is, where the September meeting will be is still up in the air right now. I'll let you know when I find out.

SOROW> (RHPS photographers voice) Congratulations! (I know, I know, twice in two days, but it seems appropriate)

Pistoff> Great quote. Are you, per chance, on the Paladin Press mailing list?

Jenna> Awww. :)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 02:00:30 PM
IP: ppp-151.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

A little note to Mary: Take heart, friend. You're a fun, caring person and I know you'll find someone for you. It may take a while, but while you wait, have as much fun as you can being single. :-)
2 - [my return draws nearer]
i promise, soon. when, i don't want to say, but i swear it is coming....
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 01:40:00 PM
IP: edtn001958.hs.telusplanet.net

Mary- I hope my last post helps you ^_^
Jenna
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:51:23 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Mary-- saw your previous post-- Don't worry if you don't fall in love with or want to chase every guy who walks by. I think that's perfectly okay. Some girls think they have to be in love to give them purpose, but that's not really love is it? When I was in high school-- I felt the exact same way you do. I didn't date anyone. I just didn't feel intrested in anyone that way, and it wasn't that they weren't nice guys.

When I went to college, it was pretty much the same thing. I dated a few guys then, but I never really felt "love" for them. I had a crush on one guy, but of course that faded. But I began to wonder if I would ever find love, like you do now. Because I really had never felt it.

Then I met Mike- there was just something about him. He wasn't the most hansome guy I dated, and I dated guys who had a lot more material wealth. But again, there was something about him.

I'm working on a fanfic cycle in which Thailog - who has never loved anyone- falls in love with someone. He describes it as hitting him like lightening. That's what it feels like, Mary. It creeps up on you, then bam! and you know what you feel is real, and unlike anything else you've ever known.

Just becasuse you don't find it in highschool, or college doesn't mean you ever won't feel love. Love will find you, when you least suspect it. And sometimes, just when you've written it off. Mike and I had both kind of decided that we would be alone for the rest of our lives, before we met each other. Love changed all that- it was scary, but I'm glad it happened.

So don't worry - Love has it's own time, and there is a time for everything. **gentle hug**

and P.S. Mike and I got married this past spring-- I know it sounds cheesy, but it was the happiest day of my life so far.
Jenna
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:49:07 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

The truth is, I'm not upset at all about breaking up with Dags. That's what bothers me. For the past few years I just haven't felt anything for anybody. I don't even feel interested in random cute guys at school. *sigh* I'm afraid I'll either never find someone who I'll enjoy being with, or I'll get into a relationship and I can't tell him that I love him or even care about him they way he might for me. In other words, emotional detachment. :(
Mary Flanders
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:04:11 AM
IP: ramp-2-13.ucdavis.edu

Green Baron-- liked your RP!! LOL!

Christine- thanks- can't wait to see the art-- ^_^

RL still a whirlwind here- may comment a little later............
Jenna
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:52:09 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

RP WARNING!!!

**It seems Tom is alone in his battle againts Jerry and the excommunicated Bishop, until a flash of light hits and five teenage girls appear.

"You who dare corrupt the name of our Lord for your own twisted purposes, while in truth serving evil. We shall punish you. We are the Catholic schoolgirl scouts, and we fight for truth and Mary."

Bishop Galante draws his mouth into a frown. "Not these goody goodies. They'll spoil everything. Tom must pay,a nd these girls cannot be stopped. Perhaps I can wire Ted..."

"Naughty, naughty...trying to radio for help. I'd punish you but you'd enjoy it," smirks Brigitte.

"Get behind me Tom. We can handle Jerry easily enough," assures Bernadette as she and Therese take out their rosaries and aim them at Jerry.

"Catholic schoolgirl rosary power. Let's bash some fundamentalists," they chant in unison as blue light shoots from each rosary incinerating the Vrock.**
END RP for now!!

Kaioto> $I hope that evens the odds a little, plus you get to meet the scouts$

Now I am again back in school. Yesterday was a busy day. I had my Con Law I class, followed by six hours of work and a Psych class at night. Luckily, it only meets on Monday nights. Today, I have four classes, including a night class, but only two hours of work. I just hope to ehar back form teh dining services if they want to hire me after my temp job runs out.

Pistoff> Actually, I just said that it is worse to spoil a child than to beat it. I do not wish to be struck unless I deserve,a nd every time I was struck, I knew I had it coming. I preferred that to awaiting a punishment, which is more fun to do as a parent when you let the child wait a few hours for the sentence. Then, the kid's imagination wanders :)

Nightwalker> The ET thing was an e-mail sent by my cat actually, and I frowarded it to my joke list :)

SOROW> I am glad to hear about your newfound love. Let's hope you hav e agreat time. Knowing you, you should.

Mary> Sorry about you and Dags, but that is a long distance. As for starting a relationship, I was 17 when I first dated a girl, and it's been almost a year since my last relationship and I am still skiddish about asking a girl out.

Coyote> Kenna and I may count as something of a couple, but we aren't looking for a relationship, just a lot of fun, especially in Orlando :)

Firestorm> Things are looking up for you. Good.

Lady Mystic> I am glad you liked meeting me. I guess we'll meet again next year :)

Jewel> Good luck on the new car. I odn't even know how to drive yet. I guess you're still busy. You shoudl like the story. It's nice and stimulating :)

Bronx> I'm gald I'm your inspiration. As for your relationship with your dad, I've probably told you that I have cut off all ties to mine. I hope your dad is a better man than mine.

Princess Estra> welcome back. Did you get my e-mail?

Princess Mera> Welocme to the insanity. Let's see. We have two Princesses and a Baron. Any other title nobility in the room?

SJ> Get well soon.

Jenniren> Poor kitty :(

Delphi> Yep, I like the indepndence of cats, plus they smell so much nicer than dogs :)

Now, I'm off to see if I an sell more books. Bye! Bye!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:09:21 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Hi all!!

Looks like I'm not the only one who's had a bad day,I swear the assistant manager at work is just asking to get his throat ripped out(he like's to patronise me and quite frankly,I've had a gut full)>:/

Coyote re Name plate:D'OH!!! boy was I way wrong:)

Wilek re Doom RPG:The games didn't, to be sure, but the novel series based on the games had a *great* (if somewhat weird) storyline. ^_^>>I've never read those books although I do remember them.

SJ:Sorry to hear that your sick,I hope you feel better soon.

Aaron:May I offer my condolences on your returning to school.

Mary:ACK!! oh well at least you and Dags are still friends.:)

SOROW:Great Stuff! congradulations:)

C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 07:33:26 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

"One nation under surveillance, with wiretaps and urine testing for all." ---from Reality is What You can Get Away With, by Robert Anton Wilson

**STARSHIP TROOPERS REVIEW**

Well, I was disappointed. The animation looked damn good, among the best I've ever seen. But as for the plot, it seemed like a rip-off of "Aliens"--which, basically, is what the movie was, as well. A bunch of soldiers in armor firing thousands of bullets at insect-like aliens. Been there, done that, probably doin' it again later. It had a couple of good lines here and there, and I like the fact that it was geared toward older viewers, rather than little kids. And the pace was good, too--slower than normal for an animated show, which made it more believable. Still, having only half an hour to tell a story causes problems. That's not enough time for plot or character development. I think it would be a lot better if it were an hour-long show. (If Gargoyles came back to TV, I'd also like to see it done as an hour-long show.) While I understand that it's only the pilot, I've seen other pilots that were done far better. There was almost no plot in this one--basically, it was "go in there and shoot the bugs!" Apparently the creators of the show were more concerned with making it look good than putting any effort into the writing. I'll keep watching for a while, to see if it gets better--hell, I gotta give it a chance--but if it doesn't improve within the next five or six episodes, I'm giving up on it.

**END STARSHIP TROOPERS REVIEW**

jewel: Congrats on the new car! :D

Aaron: (re: school starting) :( You have my deepest condolences.

SOROW: Ohh, man, sorry you had to go through all that. Glad your crush asked you to the homecoming, though. :)

SJ: Aw, man, sorry you're feeling bad. Hope you get well soon.

And now for an oldie but goodie... ;)

"Now that Billy Idol has, in 1993, released a CD entitled Cyberpunk, it's clear that those of us who were actually there at the creation, so to speak, can no longer use the term in polite society." ---Shawna McCarthy, reviewing "Nimbus," by Alexander Jablokov
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 02:55:21 AM
IP: wire-11.koalas.com

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Pinkie and the Brain HAS been cancelled. No new episodes this season along with everything else. Seems Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain did so dismally it wasn't worth renewing. (Along with Animaniacs which had degraded into the Warners and Slappy show.) There will never again be a new Pinkie and the Brain episode, because some marketing idiot thought Elmyra was a good addition to the cast. Well... There's always holiday specials.

Also, Ronin Warriors being on Toonami is only a RUMOR at the moment. Though Jonny does need to go, after three years of only 50 episodes, he's in his 100 something repeat... (And Thundercats is on Tonnami's Midnight Run every Saturday...)
Robby
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 01:10:52 AM
IP: spider-wb062.proxy.aol.com

**RP Here**
Jerry dove towards Tom with utter abandon. His intense hatred was compounded upon his own consuming, demonic prerogatives. His carrion-bird beak and venomous claws stretched out, he dashed forwards with inhuman speed, leaving Galante behind to merely grin sinisterly. Tom tried to dodge, his reactions trying to save him. A few paces from the door, it suddenly slammed shut.
Tom whirled about. Galante stood there, his skeletal hand extended, pointing towards the door. His sinister grin grew broader as Tom's eyes went wide. Jerry shrieked an inhuman cry of victory as he closed the last few steps in a few seconds. His claws raised high, he prepared for the moment that had carried his soul deeper than even damnation in servitude to the Dark Powers.
**Pause RP**

Well, this thing is still bugging me. But at least it is written down. Is it s bad thing when you feel compelled to write quatrains about the End of the World? I dun'no what's up with this, but it just wouldn' leave me alone until they were written, and they are dark and creepy too. Darn, this is weird.

Sorow: *smiles* Good for you. I'm glad things are working out for you. You're lucky you have a special someone within reach.

David G: Chapter headings. Maybe I can help. Drop me a line if you wish. My addie is at the end of this.

Wilek: $Dark Mage Wilek: *smirks* Charmed, I'm sure. *dripping with sarcasm* I'll await your generosity with baited breath �

Warpmind: Bagpipes � hehehe � I like your style �

Argent: Congratulations. :)

Ah well, back to trying to make sense of these quatrains �

**Resume RP**
Jerry's beak went wide, preparing to snap off Tom's arm in a brutal bite. Then, suddenly, his beak was crushed shut by a black-booted foot. Another connected to his skull, forcing him to the ground with a drastic thump and a cracking sound.
"Damn," Kaioto cursed the demon simply as he rolled to his feet next to Tom with a limp. He kicked his foot loose. "Stubbed my toe," he declared evenly.
"Who the hell?" Tom abbreviated.
"Never mind, shoot it in the head," the warrior-monk gestured at Jerry as he drew out his sword and moved between Tom and Galante, who's expression had soured considerably.
"But-," Tom said as he drew and quick fired at point blank right before Jerry could get his feet under him. The Demon slunk to the ground, apparently dead again.
"He's just a Vrock, a very minor demon. His corporeal form is physically vulnerable to any weapon."
Tom, sensing dread beginning to lift turned and sharp-shot Galante in the head seven times before his clip expired.
Galante shook his head and held out his hand. The fell out of his skeletal form and began a lazy orbit about his hand.
"That, however," Kaioto sighed, crouched low with his sword out, "Is a lesser Devil. Not so vulnerable."
With a casual shrug, Galante waved and the bullets shot out, Telekinetically propelled at the new obstacle between him and his revenge.
**END RP**

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:24:26 AM
IP: 1cust251.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

SORROW: Need server help?

Starship Troopers: I must say... I AM disapointed. While the plot was ok, I think that the way the characters were portrayed badly. I dunno... it didn't even capture the feeling of the movie.

Robby: Thanks for the MIDI!

Wilek: Start from scratch? I tried. I have to swap out EVERY part to find the problem.

School: Hurt my knee VERY badly while trying to run up the steps. Now it's all swollen and painful.

Office Depot: THANK YOU EVERYONE for your support!

Mummies ALive: The BEST part of that show is that Hyena doea a voice in it!

Coyote: You want to know the problem? Computers ARE my strong point!

Chickens: The best way to kill them is NOT to use an axe. The BEST way is to use a flame thrower! Not only does it kill them, it also removes all the feathers AND cooks it for dinner!

SORROW: WAY TO GO on your love life!

Warpmind: Did you recieve my e-mail about your fan-fic? I am not quite sure my e-mail is working.

<PRAISE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:22:32 AM
IP: 216.90.45.200

**RP!**

[Fleur is about to try and speak with Wilek again, but they are interrupted by yet another call: "Nereus? It's Jespe. Better get to de briefing room." Wilek: "What's wrong?" Jespe: "Don' ask; you *have* to see dis for yourself." Wilek and Fleur exchange a concerned look, and head off for the briefing room...]

**PAUSE RP!**

Mary> <<Well people, looks like it's back to Singlesville for me. Dags and I have decided to just stay friends.>> <sigh> Ah well. There's always next time. ^_^

Princess Estra> <<they're not REALLY cancelling Pinkie and the Brain are they??!!>> Not that I know of. In the episode in question, Brain had created some manner of edutainment program in order to take over the world; that's the show they were talking about. I just thought that quote said a lot about the animation industry in general, when taken out of context. <G> Oh, and great poem. :)

Warpmind> <<now some geek is trying to make the DOOM Role-Playing Game.>> Woah...cool! ^_^ $<<Heh, you Joyriders out there... how'd you like my bagpipe idea?>> It's twisted, evil, sadistic, and probably in violation of several international treaties. I love it. >:) $

Argent> <<Guess who just got braces? *sigh* No more popcorn or Snickers for two years, and I _still_ can't eat anything solid.>> Oh no! My sympathies, friend; no one should have to deal with braces. :( <<The Tootsie Pops are to celebrate my new cousin.>> Congratulations! :D <takes a Tootsie Pop> I love these. ^_^

Xanathar> <<I'd like to see how they work this out.(don't get me wrong I liked Doom but it didn't have much of a storyline)>> The games didn't, to be sure, but the novel series based on the games had a *great* (if somewhat weird) storyline. ^_^

Bronx> Ack...sorry about the whole situation with your father. I hope things improve soon.

Spacebabie> <<What is the name of tha anime that has Xenobia,Phacia,and Royce?>> I *think* it's Lunar: Silver Star Story, but I'm not sure.

SOROW> <<I went to church to meet my cruch and ended up having to leave after 5 minutes cause I felt sick. Then I decided to make a quick stop at the music store before I went home... smart one! I came out of the store and my freakin' tire is flat! I didn't have a number to call and no one was around, so I walked home in 100 degree heat for thirty minutes!>> Oh man! I'll mention this to Mr. Disconnect when I destroy him. >:) <<Personally, I think that Fallen and The Game rank as the two most twisted plot endings in my opinion.>> Seen Omen II? >:)

$Kaioto> Uh oh, my evil twin wants to say something... [Dark Mage Wilek: "Well, it isn't as if *you* have anything interesting to say, brother dear. Now...<<Magic-users never do necromancy well. They manipulate forces too much, and bending souls to will is almost always dark work for a magus.>> I appreciate your concern, Seeker...but I'm far from your average run-of-the-mill mage. Someday, if I'm feeling *very* generous, I just may explain precisely why. <muhahaha>"] Er...don't mind him, he's nuts. :) $

Robby> <<I *DID* get a sneak peak at Ninja High School v. 2.0 # 6... Considering the comic shops are only on issue 2... Thats quite a sneak peak... I also got an actual copy of the script version of Warrior Nun # 2...>> Woah...Now *that* is cool. ^_^ <<Seems Cartoon Network has showed some interest in putting that in the Toonami lineup where Jonny Quest is...>> Oh YES! :D Jonny Quest is nice, but there are a lot of shows more deserving of being in the Toonami lineup. Granted, I would have chosen Thundercats, but Ronin is good too. ^_^

SJ> <<ooooooh what a long day. And not a very pleasant one. On top of going through a lot of crap in my personal life, I seem to be coming down with a summer cold, or at the very least my allergies are acting up. I feel awful.>> ACCKK! <sodomizes Sli Sludge with a hedge trimmer>

David G.> <> Hm...I don't know if they're very pretentious or even appropriate to this, but you might be able to find a few at www.coolsigs.com. :)

**BEGIN THE (very long) DOWNFALL OF AOL!**

[In the dead of night, ninja-like hackers in plain black suits stalk the halls of the AOL corporate headquarters in Dulles, Virginia, soon to bring about the end of the world's worst ISP. They stop occasionally to plant bombs and kill employees and leave their guts nailed to a wall as a warning to others, but are otherwise unflagging in their progress toward the offices of Steve Case, the leader of the evil organization. Silently, they pick the lock and enter the chamber where Case's own personal system terminal is situated. They leave a holographic projector on his desk, activate his computer, easily bypass the pathetic security, insert a disk that they brought with them, and run a time-delayed program thereupon, before leaving as silently as they came.
The next day, Steve Case comes in, shaken by the bodies he's encountered, locks his office, and removes his disguise, revealing himself to be Mr. Disconnect. He notices and activates the recorder, to find a message from Wilek: "Hey Steve...YOU'VE GOT MAIL! <hehehe> Enjoy your final moments, Steve...I know that I and everyone on the Internet will. MUAHAHAHHA! Oh, and *this* is from SOROW:" The holographic recorder floats up to DC's eye level and messily burrows itself into his skull as his terminal activates--*by itself*--and begins running a Borg assimilation virus. After a few hours, all of AOL has fallen to the Borg. Nanites have infested all the servers and even the remaining living employees. And they're busy building things...explosives. Within a day, they've built a bomb big enough to destroy the entire building. They detonate the device, setting off an explosion big enough to be seen from the Comment Room. AOL is no more.]

**END AOL APOCALYPSE AND RESUME RATHER LONG RP!**

[The command staff has gathered in the briefing room of the station. Rho: "About a half hour ago, this appeared on every conventional communications device on the planet Earth." Rho manipulates a control panel, and the video that the cyborg Smurf broadcast in Robby's previous RP is played back on a holographic viewscreen. Khesaat: "Until now, we had no idea that this 'Dark Star II' even existed. This...*creature*...appears to have access to advanced cloaking technology; there's no other way we could have overlooked another Dark Star-class station." Administrator: "Since then, he has decloaked his station, presumably to allow challengers to accept his dare. We have determined that it is roughly equivalent to ours in firepower, although we are uncertain if the Dark Star II has an attendant starfleet." Wilek: "Man...what do we do about this guy?" Rho: "We considered deploying all five Eclipse Star Destroyers to blow the thing to atoms, as with the first one, but we can't be sure that'll work this time." Wilek: "You're not thinking of sending someone to fight this guy, are you?" An uncomfortable silence permeates the room for a few moments, before Khesaat speaks..."It would be a volunteer mission, of course." Rho: "Some of the more powerful members of your team, if they choose to accept the mission, will be sent to the Dark Star II to assassinate this cyborg. Yes, assassinate; we probably *could* win in fair combat, but it's better to be safe." Wilek: "You sound just like Bill Gates. <grin>"]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:01:25 AM
IP: tnt-3-02-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Slight modification to the Phoenix Gate theory> I just remembered (well, actually it was like 4 hours ago, but I wasn't near a computer) that Brooklyn and Sata went to Revolution France and could speak both French and Rom (The gypsie language). Therefore, the Gate does let you speak all the local languages (or at least more than one).

Freelance Update> First of all, Delphi, my generous and talented editor, has a copy of the story now. I figure I'll be doing revisions by thursday.

Second, my friend Chris, who doesn't post here, gave me this really evil Creativity Demon for my birthday, it all started when I complained that there was no good way to have James meet the Timedancer, since if Brooklyn ever got that close to his own time he'd probably just stay. Look for some interesting time travel related stories as soon as I figure out how to do them.

Third, I JUST NOW gave myself a new Creativity Demon. Brooklyn might actually keep Dancing if (A) he came back to a time before he left - which might be hard to work out, but is an interesting thought or (B) - this is the annoying one - If he was seperated from Sata, and kept Dancing in the hopes of getting back to her...

I'm going to bed before this happens again. I don't have time for all these ideas. I still need to get Goth ready in about 4 months, and I don't have anywhere near enough pretentious quotations for chapter headings yet.

David G - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:32:57 PM
IP: pppa46-fortworth13-3r235.saturn.bbn.com

****BEGIN RP****
At Jim Iza Noying's home, SJ and Kari have just arrived in the TIE Scimitar. They head inside.
"What exactly are we looking for?" Kari asked.
"Well, it's not exactly as if Jim had some his DNA just lying around....at least I don't think he does....so we're going to have to do this the hard way. We're gonna need to search the house for some of personal articles, anything that will have some of his DNA on it."
"Such as?"
"Toothbrush, hairbrush, clothing....we'd better start looking."
****END RP****

*sigh* ooooooh what a long day. And not a very pleasant one. On top of going through a lot of crap in my personal life, I seem to be coming down with a summer cold, or at the very least my allergies are acting up. I feel awful.

***Starship Troopers Review****
Well, so far there's one review sort of indifferent to the show. Here's one for it. I really enjoyed the first episode of the series. I think it captured the feel of the movie, but more importantly it added many elements from the book (which, being a Heinlein fan, I enjoyed greatly). In regards to the simple "find the bugs and destroy them" plot...it's the pilot. It was meant to primarily introduce the characters of the show and set up the conflict to those who haven't seen the movie or read the novel. The series will get "better", as in the future there will be 5 episode arcs. I rather enjoyed the animation, although the frequent shifts into slow-motion got to be a little annoying. I thought the characters were nicely rendered, with decent realistic expressions and movements. All in all, I enjoyed the show. Thought it was pretty good, and already I like it better than some other CGI animated shows I've seen before (I shan't name them for fear of offending some).
****END S TROOPERS REVIEW***

Coyote: Um....I'm sorry, but I had no clue as to what that license plate meant either. Perhaps I need to brush up on my Gargoyles viewing...

Sorow: I had the exact opposite feeling with Fallen. It was almost too predictable. As soon as I saw Azazel possess Denzel, I knew that in the end the demon would get out and find another body....but a cat? "Remember, I wanted to tell you about the time I *almost* died." For me, it didn't quite pack that head-in-a-box kick of, say, the ending of "Seven".
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:29:34 PM
IP: 207-172-119-199.s199.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

It's official... MY CRUSH JUST ASKED ME TO HOMECOMING!!!!!! Oh, everything is once again right with the world! God bless young love!!!!!!!!!!
SOROW
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:21:28 PM
IP: dll2b111-45.splitrock.net

Jenna > Avalon Mists will, if all goes well, be posted on Wednesday. Some really great stuff this time! Wait until you see the results of the Artist's Challenge, they are _hilarious_!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:04:19 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**re-enters the room, re-assuming his seat in the lawn chair**

Warpmind: Didn't mean to sound attitudinal this morning, but it just struck me extremely odd that a regular poster to a Gargoyles comment room wouldn't pick out that particular phrase from that series of letters. **extends hand of friendship**

Mary: **sigh** Ohhh, nuts. And I had such hopes for ye two ... now I have one less couple to look to in my attempts to distract myself from my own loneliness.
**sighs shakily, looks to the candle, then continues**
Oh, and I heard "Mambo #5" on the radio earlier today, and had an idea for a filk, but I've never heard the whole thing of the song. I'm assumng you have ... interested in co-writing with me? I'll let ye know over e-mail my idea.

Bronx: As a child of divorced parents myself, I can certainly relate to what you're going through right now. I also live with my mother ... my father is quite an enigma to me, though I have an idea of the kind of person he is, and he knows the kind of person I've grown up to be. Although I've never had the kind of rift you and your father have, I am certainly willing to listen if you need to bend an outside party's ear about this. **hugs**

SOROW: Talk about a lousy day. Boy, everyone's weekend went into the dumpster, didn't it? :P

Robby: **sits in stunned silence looking over the transcript of the Ben Dunn meeting** You are just too damned lucky, my friend. ;)

**sits back in the lawn chair** Wish some of that luck would rub off on me ... **sets his gaze on the candle's flame, sighing sadly**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, August 30, 1999 10:59:19 PM
IP: 207.91.254.65

Hmm, computer seems to be working again...

NEW DRAGONBALL EPISODES COMING SEPTEMBER 13th! (Okay, they're actually about ten years old, and the american translations have been on video for a couple months now but still...)

Had my third meeting with Ben Dunn today. This one was cut a bit short by a meeting, but I *DID* get a sneak peak at Ninja High School v. 2.0 # 6... Considering the comic shops are only on issue 2... Thats quite a sneak peak... I also got an actual copy of the script version of Warrior Nun # 2... This apprenticeship is gonna be sooo cool...

My reviews of the new Sci-Fi channel shows...

Monster Rancher- COMPLETE Pokemon rip off, thrown in with some Captain N. Ace video game player gets thrust into a video game world where he'll be an ace, while raising a weak creature into something stronger? Geez, the creatures don't even look that good. (Well, the black T-Rex's maybe) But come on, this is SUCH a Playstation endorsement, the system and controller are even in there... And lets not forget the catch phrase, "How many have you unlocked?" the first episode killed all the hoped I had for it. Pity.

Starship Troopers- The GI was pretty good, but not as good as Mainframe's. the picture was always dark hiding the detail, the character's facial expressions looked akward, and the animations jumped every now and again. Not to mention the characters all look the same, not much distinguishes them. If every episode is "find the bugs and blast them" it'll get old real quick, but I'm giving this up until Greg's stint before I write it off, I hope it'll be more than that. And hey, Bill Fabergake *IS* doing one of the voices. Potential, but nothing in the first episode that really grabbed me.

Mummies Alive and Extreme Ghostbusters- Ugg... No comment. On the upside, I found out WHY Ronin Warriors isn't in the lineup. Seems Cartoon Network has showed some interest in putting that in the Toonami lineup where Jonny Quest is...

Aaron- I tried to go to the animation thingie yesterday but I couldn't find the place!

Coyote- I figured out your licence plate immediatley.

Dinosaucers- Like I've said before, great show, the flaws it had were mostly a result of it being in the 80's, where EVERYTHING was messed up...

Phoenix Gate translation- I always figured just going through the Phoenix gate gave you babel fish capacity for a period of a couple weeks, and after that if you didn't go through the phoenix flame again, it would wear off. Since most timedancer are under three weeks, the babel fish capacity would always be renewed. (Remember, the gate stopped translating between Brooklyn and Sata after a while...) But thats just my theory...

The Edge- Great episode, but then every season one ep was. Its also one of the best animated, right up there with The Mirror, Future Tense, and Hunter's Moon. Of course, it goes without saying my favorite ep is still Kingdom, dfespite the lesser animation.

** RP HERE**

Aboard the Sark Star Two, the cybernetic Smurf hits a switch, and suddenly, the entire world goes silent. All televisions, radios, satelites, and various other broadcasting things are tuned into one frequency only. It is instantly translated into whatever the local language, and the following message goes out.

"Citizens of Earth. I will soon bring about your utter destruction with the weapons of the Dark Star Two here. However, since I'm an ecentric evil villain, I'm going to give you a one week warning and fair chance.
The destruction of Earth will begin next Monday. In the meantime, you all have one week to prepare. Say goodbye to your loved ones, hunt for ancient talismans to fight me with, train in 100 times normal gravity, give yourself cybernetic implants, merge with ancient demons, eat all the bacon cheesburgers you want, clone your most powerful warriors and give them superhuman abilities, whatever you want to make yourselves stronger. In one week, I will fight whoever dares challenge me for the fate of the Earth. And don't think just because I am a smurf I am not powerfull. I have watched every episode and movie of Dragonball Z, and I know plenty of tricks. You have one week to prepare for battle or death. Good day."

**END RP! (Everybody can get involved in this one!)**
Robby
Monday, August 30, 1999 09:33:46 PM
IP: spider-wj033.proxy.aol.com

Hm �. Well now.

Well, I guess I finally get to do a movie review :)

***********Reviews for �Mickey Blue Eyes�**************
No matter what anyone might think of Hugh Grant, this movie was excellent, definitely not par for the course in the Hollywood trash heap that has been the movie industry as of late. This was a great comedy with a romantic plot that rose above the typical slap-stick offerings of the genre.

The performances were all excellent, especially Hugh Grant himself. He walked a very dangerous tight-rope of being a clutz in the ways of Mafia culture. Instead of coming off as the typical idiotic buffoon one would receive in an Adam Sandler, Chris Farley, or John Candy performance, Hugh Grant pulls off more of a realistic, Everyman quality. Brave to an extent, but absolutely exuding the fear, nervousness, and confusion of a normal individual thrown into such dangerous circumstances. He is forgetful, clumsy, and confused at the necessary times, in a charming and realistic manner rather than an obnoxious or tiresome one.

The role of Lead Actress was also carried out well, though her performance was certainly overshadowed by the awkward charm exuding from Hugh Grant�s character, Michael.

The supporting actors from the Mafia crime families were excellent, if only to fit comedic stereotypes to a �T�. It was also a delightful surprise to see a familiar face from the HBO Original series �The Sopranos� in this movie. Wonder who else spotted and remembered him.

I can�t think of a comedy I�ve could shamelessly enjoy quite so much in years. I�d recommend it to anyone when the mood suits them. Of course, maybe I�m just partial to anything Mafioso or Italiano � *shrugs* Nah � Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and the Feast of St. Anthony � just coincidences � all of �em � Forget about it. *grins*
******************End Review of Mickey Blue Eyes************

Bronx Wyvern: Hm � Fathers can be very enigmatic. Divorce just sucks in general, especially if both parents are good people. Makes you feel like your being torn between two worlds, or just cut off from one or the other. In general, divorces suck. My condolences. I hope you and your father reach a reconciliation someday.

Wilek & SJ: < SJ: "What I'm getting at is, who's the only necromancer we know?" Wilek: "Oh...ew...good point..." > Magic-users never do necromancy well. They manipulate forces too much, and bending souls to will is almost always dark work for a magus. However, Necromancy is a far more viable sphere for clerics as they walk the paths of Veil, while Magi hack through it with a machete. Clerics are far more likely to befriend the natives and go about things peacefully as it were. OK, so it may be rambling, but it could help your concept �

Hm � so, I�ve got my sister�s wedding this Sunday. Then moving back into my dorms on Monday, and starting my classes Tuesday, with all my financial aide screwed up � *Sighs* And now I�ve got this writing bit that won�t leave me alone. I�d best put it down somewhere � then call Financial aide � then get to Sears � *shakes his head* This is gon�na be a long week.

*begins to scribble*
Damn � this is disturbing stuff � oh well. Laters.

Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 09:08:26 PM
IP: 1cust251.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

I sure am glad that the room's slow, cause my computer is actually loading it all! Bout $&@!%$^ time!

Yesterday sucked hellabooty! I went to church to meet my cruch and ended up having to leave after 5 minutes cause I felt sick. Then I decided to make a quick stop at the music store before I went home... smart one! I came out of the store and my freakin' tire is flat! I didn't have a number to call and no one was around, so I walked home in 100 degree heat for thirty minutes! Luckily, it wasn't that far. Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later!

Doug> He's a really sweet guy. Now if I can only get him to ask me to Homecoming.

SJ> Sorry that you didn't like Fallen. Personally, I think that Fallen and The Game rank as the two most twisted plot endings in my opinion. But that's just me!

David G> That's a really good theory on the Gate and its translating ability. The only thing I never really understood is why the Gate just suddenly stopped translating for Brooklyn and Sata after so long. Maybe it was just being annoying or wanted them to actually learn each other's language. Whatever.

The Edge was on Disney last night, and it kicks @$$! I personally think that the Edge is one of the most beautifully animated eps in Gargoyles. The entire aerial battle is amazing! I guess that I've been watching the cut version the whole time because I had never seen the battle between Xanatos and Goliath on the Statue of Liberty before last night! I saw Xanatos punch Goliath and literally shouted, "Hey! Since when was Xanatos allowed to do that?! Go kick his @$$!" :)
SOROW
Monday, August 30, 1999 08:46:19 PM
IP: dll2b102-43.splitrock.net

Been crazy here-- my head is still spinning.

Does anyone know when Avalon Mists (the new one) will be up?
Jenna
Monday, August 30, 1999 06:28:17 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Airwalker> I've wondered about that myself. However, I think I have a pretty good answer. The translator spell is cast as soon as you change time periods, and gives you the ability to communicate with the first/biggest/most obvious (I'm not totally clear here) group you meet. I can't remember a story right now where Brooklyn ran into two language groups, so I don't know if it would give you, for instance: Latin, Hebrew, and Greek, if you landed in first century Jerusalem.

Anyway, once the Gate has cast the spell, it works for several days, weeks, or whatever, or until you leave that time period. This explains how Xanatos and Fox were able to speak Old English and/or Norman French to the Norman Ambasador when Goliath took the Gate off to try to reform Demona. It also explains what happened when Sata and Brooklyn got together, then lost the ability to communicate.

Of course, that means that when Brooklyn was in Egypt, he must have learned to speak ancient egyptian somehow. He could win the undying love of scholars across the world if he'd go tell them how to pronounce the vowels...

Let me know how well my theory holds up. I've never taken the time to research it completely. It's just a working idea.

The other possibility is that the Star Trek Language Law is in effect, and communications logistics are only a problem as long as the writers want them to be. That woudl explain how the Manhattan Clan knew how to speak English in Awakenings, but it's kind of a cop out.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 06:27:32 PM
IP: pppa23-fortworth10-4r234.saturn.bbn.com

Completely off topic question. What is the name of tha anime that has Xenobia,Phacia,and Royce? their suposed to be the three witches of tha Vile Tribe.(Another example of th three women ala weird sisters.)

Nightwalker about you and your mom? She sounds a bit like my mother who believes adults shouldent watch cartoons? Hello some cartoons do have a gret quality that people of all qualities can enjoy such as Gargoyles(my words after seeing the first episode was"This is a Disney cartoon?"
and there are cartoons made only for Mature audiences
such as South Park and Fox's primetime animation lineup.
So relax young night walker my dad is over 50 and he still watches cartoons. Although I was about to get territorial when he refered to Gargoyles as his show???Excuse me I was watching it before him.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, August 30, 1999 05:58:39 PM
IP: ts004d04.orl-fl.concentric.net

I was reading THE SUN AND THE SERPENT 1 yesterday and I was wondering: When Brooklyn arrives in Egypt for the first time, the Phoenix Gate is taken away from him. So why is it that he and the Egyptians are still able to understand what each other are saying? Doesn't the gate work as a Universal Translator for him and without it wouldn't they be unable to understand a word that each other would be saying?

The same question goes for Sata in MENAGERIE. When she was seperated from Brooklyn, who still had the Gate in his possession, how was she able to understand anyone and how were anyone able to understand her? Neither side spoke each others language and she wasn't even close to the Gate.

DINOSAUCERS - I remember that show. I liked it enough that I got up 6:30 in the morning to watch it. It was pretty good at the time although now when I look back at it, it seems to have lost a bit of it's appeal to me.

Say, does anyone here remember VISIONARIES? I loved that show! I'm just sorry that I didn't record the episodes when it was on the air.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, August 30, 1999 05:32:15 PM
IP: 118.new-york-75-80rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Not complaining. Just wondering.

Rulok - [jmiller@netxpress.com]
San Antonio, tx
Monday, August 30, 1999 03:27:37 PM
IP: jmiller.pub.swri.edu

Ugh, started school today, if you call six hours of class a week school. Somehow everything I signed up for was either full or had prerequisites I didn't have, so this's what I got. To make up for it, this's the semester I'm going to get off my butt and take those credit by exam tests.

*******************Review w/spoilers for The 13th Warrior (I still like the other title though)********

I loved this movie. I was afraid it would suck like most recent Crighton adaptations, but it actually follows the book pretty faithfully, although even two hours isn't enough time to get everything in. Antonio Banderas is quite good, and the cast of less well known play their parts very well, especially their leader. The combat is a treat to watch, sort of an ill-lit Braveheart. (Not sure, but Stephen the Mad may be in there. Have to check) I wish they had made it a little longer, and gone for a true epic feel, but otherwise no complaints. Aaron Bob says 4/5 skulls, check it out.
*******************End review/spoilers*******************

Watched the first three eps of Record of Lodoss War yesterday, along with a very Tron ep of Pocket Monsters that won't be seen in the US. (Probably something to do with the ambulance that morphs into an X-Wing)

My thanks to everyone for the info on the origin of Mary Sue fics.

Gunjack> (RHPS photographer's voice) Congratulations!

Later.

Aaron wanders off humming "Hooked on a Feeling"

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 02:10:28 PM
IP: ppp-205.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Rulok re: TGS> We're working on it! It's kind of hard since a lot of staffers have work/school/real life to juggle as well. So please, don't complain about withdrawal symptoms, okay? Geez.

Jewel> New car?? All right!

Sarge> Loved the top ten list, especially the bits that would cause Fox to smack her husband (I could just see that)! LOL!

That's all... need to go yell at Financial Aid now...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 30, 1999 01:27:55 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Any thoughts on when the new TGS season will start?
Getting withdrawl symptoms here.

Rulok - [jmiller@netxpress.com]
San Antonio, tx, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:20:34 AM
IP: jmiller.pub.swri.edu

**No RP today, my hands are shaking with worry**

Hey everyone... hope you guys are good today, I could be better *sighs*

***WARNING AN OVERDUE RANT AHEAD!!!***
My father and I haven't always seen eye to eye, and recently we have gotten into a major fight. To communicate rationally though we have been sending each other email. However the last one I sent him was very powerful, and it had some things in there that wasn't so pretty, but I held all these feelings back for a long time. (six years- from the point my parents got divorced) Well, my dad obviosly didn't take the email and the reality. For almost a month now we have not seen each other, or talk to each other. However this morning proved to be interesting when my brother came downstairs with the phone saying my Dad wanted to talk to me. I said no right away because my Mom told me (and I agreed) that I shouldn't talk to him at least for now. Anyway, aughh... he sent me an email, and it wasn't a rant, or a *yell*, it was a good luck thing for going back to school tomorrow. WHY do parents have to be so disconcerting?!?! My father has been very random.. and it's really making me upset.. *sighs*
**END RANT**

Anime at 3> Wow, there was anime on that late at night? Darn!! Hmm... I guess I'll tape it next time it pops up on the tv guide.

*lights some sweet smelling insence* That's about it for me my sibs, I think I have go, and think very hard what to do now. *watches the smoke*

"Time is like a handful of sand. The tighter you grasp it, the faster
it runs through your fingers. But if you caress it, it will leave in
its wake memories of its gentle flow rather than the roughness of its
stones." -Anonymous

The very worried Bronx Wyyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Monday, August 30, 1999 11:12:12 AM
IP: spider-wg043.proxy.aol.com

I did happen to see "Roswell Conspiracies" on television a couple of days ago, early on Saturday morning. It was interesting, though I agree that it definitely wasn't on the level of "Gargoyles". But I rather liked one of its premises, that mythological beings (such as werewolves and banshees) are really aliens that settled on Earth a long while ago. (And I got a little smile at the "The truth is not out there" line).

I wonder how much say Greg did have in the making of the episode, since it did have some "Gargoyles"-evocative elements in it (banshees, Queen Mab, trouble with cold iron - and the banshees even looked a bit like the Weird Sisters).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, August 30, 1999 10:32:33 AM
IP: sys.slpl.lib.mo.us

$ Jaden: Whoops! I knew I left someone's name out! <slaps forehead> Sorry about that. And yeah, Tyl captured you too. That is what you wanted, right? If not, we can work around it. Just let me know. $

**RP TIME**

Tom backs away as the demonic versions of Jerry and Galante advance on him. "Uh, hey guys," he stammers, "we used to be friends. Maybe we can talk about this?" "Shut up, traitor," Vrock-Jerry snaps. "You can't weasel your way out of this one. We stopped being friends when you shot me in the back." "But it's not my fault you're a demon! I stopped you from hurting people, you were crazy! You have no good reason for coming after me!" "Who says he needs a _good_ reason?" asks the Babau-Bishop. "He wants revenge on you, and I don't blame him. I've even absolved him for it. You will pay for betraying the faith, Thomas. Unlike Jesus was with your namesake, we will not be merciful." Tom curses and looks around the room for a weapon of some kind as the demons keep coming towards him. Finally he stops and causes his foes to cackle fiendishly by yelling "Help!"

The display changes to show the main gate a large government facility called Area 51-A. Tyl's van is pulling up in front of it, having disembarked from a large helicopter transport that is now soaring away. "There you are," the gate guard says after handing back Tyl's papers. "Assistant Director Kincaid is inside waiting for you." "Good," Tyl replies. "Carver, take us in. We'll put the Ravens in the deepest cell bay." His black driver nods and speeds through the open gate as the screen's image fades away.

**END RP FOR THIS POST**

Hi. Things are going okay, usual school drudgery. At least the first weekend of the new semester went well. :) No major fanfic progress to report (no feedback either, hope someone please sends some soon!) and all the RP is before the post this time 'cause I unfortunately don't have much to say. :( Slow times right now. Oh well, on with replies.

Thanks to all who gave Kit and me Welcome Backs! Welcome back to Princess Estra (hope you can resolve your problems soon, let us know if we can help), and welcome to the newcomer princess too.

Gunjack: Congrats to you and Mera!! Great to find love, isn't it? <smiles, hugs Kit, they both wave>

SOROW: Congrats to you as well, and your new boyfriend. May you have many happy days together.

Mary: Sorry about what happened between Dags and you, but I guess it was for the best, right? Hope you can continue to be wonderful friends. :)

Dinosaucers: I remember that show. Liked it a lot, despite its many flaws (the main one IMO was it needed more female characters. Why was there no bad girl on Rex's side?). My favorite ep was the one where they played baseball in the Astrodome, it could be part of the reason I'm a big Astros fan today. I've seen Extreme Dinosaurs too, Dinosaucers is way better. Glad they took ED off the air, hope the trend of cartoons like it that are made up of mindless action, cliched characters, and little else soon ends. Long live shows like Gargoyles!! :)

Paul: Not yet. Little time, what with school and all. Sorry.

Jewel: Congrats on the new car.

Argent: Congrats on the new cousin, sorry about the braces. Hope you don't have to have them on your teeth for too long.

The Edge: One of my favorite eps too. Mostly for the Xanatos-Goliath interaction. <"Either come live with me or be hunted down by the city." Goliath roars, smashes a lamppost, and turns to glide away from Xanatos, who yells after him, "You're taking this way too personally!!" L >

And until next time, that is all.
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, August 30, 1999 09:23:56 AM
IP: pool-207-205-148-153.dlls.grid.net

**enters the room, switching out the candles**

Warpmind: Didn't get the plate, huh? Well then ... a few clues so ye get the significance:
1) It's a phrase missing every other letter ... all vowels but one.
2) The missing letters are one A, one D, two E's and two O's.
3) It's a line Goliath spoke in "Awakening."
See below if ya still don't know ....
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The plate stands for:
NoW aNd FoReVeR

Now I figured everyone in this room would've known that ... **shrugs** Ah well. More after I work today.

**briefly fixates on the candle, then leaves**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, August 30, 1999 08:57:43 AM
IP: 207.91.254.30

Hi all!!

Sarge:Great top ten list:)

Argent:Congratulations on your new cousin.

The Edge:I like this ep as well,that whole air battle between Xanatos and Goliath was just beutiful.:)

Warpmind:Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man... now some geek is trying to make the DOOM Role-Playing Game.>>I'd like to see how they work this out.(don't get me wrong I liked Doom but it didn't have much of a storyline)

Warpmind again:"NWNFRVR"? Um... am I missing the point here? What the smegg does "NWNFRVR" mean?>>I think it means"New York Nicks Forever" but I'm not sure.

I'll try and write up an addition to the Joyride tommorrow but I have to get some sleep(I wanna see where this trolley angle goes>:))

Good night all!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, August 30, 1999 08:46:58 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au

Goodmorn everyone

I have some really excited kids in this house, school starts today and they were all up at 4:30, driving me nuts.

For something fun, click the link below----OH and don't give away the secret......

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Monday, August 30, 1999 08:37:19 AM
IP: 207.14.195.84

(Jewel*D flaps in, carefully balancing a basket of tootsie pops on her back and carrying a couple of sheets of parchment in her mouth. She tacks one of the sheets to the CR bulliten board. The other she puts on the ground next to the lollipops. She chirps to the CR dwellers, begins to leave, then remembers one more errand. A firewall incinerates DC. Satisfies, the draco exits via a portal. The sign next to the suckers says TAKE ONE (_JUST_ ONE). The note reads:

Guess who just got braces? *sigh* No more popcorn or Snickers for two years, and I _still_ can't eat anything solid. Yes, I realize it could be worse (it can _always_ get worse) but that doesn't make me feel any better.

The Tootsie Pops are to celebrate my new cousin. (She hasn't been named yet.)Help yourselves. :)

TO ALL NEWBIES> I'm Argent, the purple creature you just saw was my draco, Jewel*D. Nice to meet ya.

TO MR. Dis Connect> Your current state of pain has been brought upon you by making my e-mail disapear, and _still_ not letting me on that DBZ site.
***QUICKRP!**
Somewhere on Wilek's ship, a small device with a silver button and white crystal begins to smoke and spark. A hologram flickers above it...
***END***

Gotta Jet. Go Tribe!
(IforgetthedatebutthenewepsofDBZarecoming!)
Argent
resigned, USA
Monday, August 30, 1999 07:12:37 AM
IP: dyn035-nas01.marietta.frognet.net

*Walks in, moaning and holding his head.*

Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man... now some geek is trying to make the DOOM Role-Playing Game.

Hey... waitaminute... that's not necessarily a bad thing after all...

Coyote the Bando: "NWNFRVR"? Um... am I missing the point here? What the smegg does "NWNFRVR" mean?

Heh, you Joyriders out there... how'd you like my bagpipe idea?

**JOYRIDE**
Warpmind stumbles down the stairs to the basement, almost utterly out of breath.
"I... I... I managed to... chase most of them... off... <Wheeze>... but <huff, puff> a few of them were obviously... <breathe> tone-deaf... <pant, pant> and you rotten scumbags have eaten all the pizza without telling me you ordered out..."
Jack raises a hand defensively.
"Relax, pal, we didn't order anything. The delivery boy arrived unexpectedly, so we killed him and took the pizza."
"Oh. Well, are you finished here, with Mr. Thingy? There are twenty police officers outside, and they're heavily armed... for present-day Earth weapons technology, that is."
"Ok, guys, we got some leftovers here, and Hanson are in the trunk, so how do we get outta here?"
Warpmind draws up a bottle from his backback. The bottle is made of clear glass, but its contents seem to be a black fluid. On closer inspection, it's a bottlefull of insects.
"Just the ol' Tiger Flies... only thing is, these buggers can breed, and Santa Cruz has a somewhat hospitable environment for them, so it might not be a good idea..."
"We'll pass. Anything else?"
Miriam pushes Warpmind's hand back into the little sack, scowling.
"Can't really think of anything, and we got twenty minutes until the Doc arrives..."
"Have him trolley us out?"
"Nice thought, Xanathar. Whacha reckon, guys? Is that a good idea?"
**TO BE CONTINUED**

Well, gotta go... lunch break is over.

Toodeloo, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 30, 1999 06:22:47 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

No lot of time available, most urgent comment first.

Spacebabie: We have no unique Joyride Theme as is, but if you just click my name, you will be taken directly to the Joyride Site, as it is at present. Unfortunately, it has not been updated for a few weeks... but it will.

Gotta save those Joyride events for page updates, so I'll catch you later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 30, 1999 04:14:29 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

i am Urth, Verthande and Skald!

(ok, i admit, i'm not really any of the Wierd Sister's forms. just a misguided Princess of Neverland!)

huh. well, although i have been (most shamefully) neglecting my obligation to come here as often as possible, i have not dropped Gargoyles! i've been working on an extensive fanfiction called "The Elven Harp" i wrote a poem about it! i'm so gosh-darned proud of it i'm deciding to post it here!

Ties of family, ties of love,
Ties of history and royalty.
Ties of music, ties of magick,
Ties of vengeance and of loyalty.
A son and daughter will be lost
To the creatures who are not fae.
The creatures of darkness who
Have no fear of the light of day.
An ancient kingdom's surely lost
"Hopeless!" a trickster will deplore.
I wonder, what will Oberon say
When the elves come knocking at his door?

*evil laugh* interested? only other thing i'm gonna tell you is i screw around w/ Puck majorly (he's my fav character)

about my grandfather-- he's not getting any worse, but he's not getting any better. i feel kind of insensitive because sick people and hospitals freak me out. it's not rational, but they do! so i haven't seen him yet.

Wilek: they're not REALLY cancelling Pinkie and the Brain are they??!!

Sevarious Jr: hope i didn't spell you're name wrong... sorry you lost a buck on that movie. don't ever rent Cleopatra, either. i luv Elizabeth Taylor, but Cleopatra reeked! about the guy not crying about his dad dying-- how old was the kid? it's not so unusual. i was thirteen when my uncle died of liver cancer and i didn't cry at all!
Princess Estra - [avalonprincess@hotmail.com]
Virtual Insanity
Monday, August 30, 1999 02:23:23 AM
IP: 98a9a355.ipt.aol.com

****NO RP, NEXT POST****

Hey everyone. Just stopped by to let you know that I'm still alive. I am so glad this week is over. Everything was happening at once and I hope things slow down for once.

Doug-My RP character is still with you right?

Well I'm going to be.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Monday, August 30, 1999 02:17:37 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

*enters*
Well people, looks like it's back to Singlesville for me. Dags and I have decided to just stay friends. He's all ready involved with someone else and I'm glad he was kind enough to tell me. Plus it probably wouldn't work out because I live in California and he lives in Tennesse. Man, the was the first, and shortest relationship I've ever been in! :/
Mary
Monday, August 30, 1999 01:23:54 AM
IP: ramp-1-45.ucdavis.edu

**RP!**

[Wilek has just recieved the stunning news of SJ's planned resurrection of Jim Noying. Wilek: "You're planning to clone him, aren't you." SJ: "How did you--" Wilek: "Because you're a geneticist. You do realize that a clone, a human clone at least, doesn't inherit the memories of its master print?" SJ: "Of course. But we can get around that with neural programming." Wilek: "But he'd never be the same. There *is* magic that can bind a deceased soul to a new body." SJ: "No offense, friend, but occasionally, you're not the brightest bulb on the tree." Wilek: "Tell me something I don't know. <grin>" SJ: "What I'm getting at is, who's the only necromancer we know?" Wilek: "Oh...ew...good point..."]

**END RP!**

Interesting bit on Pinky And The Brain today. Something to the effect of: Network exec: "Brain, your show's ratings have gone through the roof since we added Elmyra." Brain: "How ironic." Exec: "So we have to cancel it." Brain: "Did...I miss something?" This works on so many levels. >:) (I also happened to catch the One True Weisman's episode of MIB. ^_^)

Nightwalker> <> Probably, you should ask someone who has a computer to start an 'account' at the GFW archive in your name, so they can post your fanfics, and then e-mail your fics to them so they can post them to the archive. It's what I considered doing before I upgraded my browser. <> Sure thing. It's at my name link. ^_^ <<What exactly is dis-connect. is it like when your internet just kicks off, or is it when it simply takes a long time to load>> That, among other things. He's basically the guy we blame for any and all electronic problems. Killing him in a nauseatingly creative manner is an excellent stress-relief technique. >:)

Princess Estra> <<school's starting, and my life just won't slow down. my grandfather is very ill and my parents are stressed out, my dog died, i'm fighting with my best friend, and school starts next Tuesday>> ACK! I am truly sorry for you, friend, and I sincerely hope things improve.

Spacebabie> <<remember that big pink guy Dodoria said that Freiza destroyed the Sayian home world.>> Actually, I only started watching DBZ a few days ago, so I'm kind of a rank newbie to the whole thing. :)

Sarge> top 10> LOL! ^_^

Gunjack> Distilled Happiness...hm...<takes a glass, but pours it into a vial instead of down his own throat> I just know I can use this for something twisted. >;)

Jenniren> <<If you think a chicken running around without a head is gross, once I saw a cat get run over. It went floppity flop all over, back and forth across the road, sometimes becoming airborne, for nearly 2 minutes before it finally stopped and lay still.>> <shudders violently> ACCCK....

All newcomers> Welcome! <deploys sanity-extraction tool> Who'll help me test this? >:)

Jewel> <> New car? YEAH! Finally, the Deathtrap can go into a trash compactor or something where it belongs! :D <<Snakes are cuddly and if you have sore neck, just drap 'em over you and instant message.>> Well, there *are* a lot of snakes in charge of AOL...

SJ> <<Unlike the "Extreme Dinosaurs" show which, I believe, was by the same folks who brought us the detestable Street Sharks.>> Ugh, I remember both those awful shows. In fact, I think they briefly did a crossover series. <<What, you people are surprised that chickens are that active after death? Haven't you ever heard the old expression "Running around like a chicken with their head cut off"?>> Heh...I didn't think it was so relentlessly literal. :} <<We have Elias Koteas playing some sort of wacked out psycho>> Again? ;)

Robby> <<I can no longer access my mail, new or old, no web page is opening for me, this one took nearly half an hour... All night long I've been getting messages about AOL being sorry for slowdown because its upgrading... Someone kill Dis Connect and a few AOhell employees for me...>> <grr> Classic AOL idiocy. By tomorrow, I just *might* be able to orchestrate their downfall...

Fleur> <<I'm still alive, but RL and Mr Dis have forced me into lurk mode.>> I'll be sure to remind him of it when I come for his miserable little soul. >8)
Wilek Nereus
Monday, August 30, 1999 12:35:28 AM
IP: tnt-1-157-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

AoHell thats why we got rid of it.

Yes The Edge kicks major rear

Its now past midnight and the Benadryl is kicking in(I told you about the end of summer being my allergy season)

CRASHES...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
a place, somewhere, outhere
Monday, August 30, 1999 12:34:16 AM
IP: ts003d10.orl-fl.concentric.net

Something big, dark and hairy leaps into the CR and surrounds Dis, killing him in a manner that's probably better not described. (but the cleaner is pi$$ed at the mess) The BDH leaves a note on the tea-table of peace before being chased out by the bouncer tree. The note reads:

I'm still alive, but RL and Mr Dis have forced me into lurk mode. Take care, all!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 30, 1999 12:10:09 AM
IP: donkey.cc.monash.edu.au

"The Edge" > this is probably the best episode out the first season next to Reawakening and Temptation. It was good to see it again on actual television....

SJ > I really liked Fallen, though maybe I just think John Goodman is cool, especially as a bad guy.

Jewel > You lucky potzer (don't take that bad, "potzer" means you are a bad chess player)......I've seen the new Cavaliers....they're sweet.....

If you ever write to Disney about putting eps of Gargoyles out on video, make sure you put in something about DVD.....

All for now....

Ordell - [<---visit, come on, you now you want to. It's not that much anymore anyways, as I'm redoing everthing.....]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:58:50 PM
IP: ppp-24.ode.cableone.net

Forgot to mention this:

Everyone, tomorrow morning should be the REAL debut for the new "Starship Troopers" show. It should debut on the Sci-Fi channel at 7:30 a.m., but it could be on other stations as it is a syndicated show (for instance, here in D.C., it comes on the UPN affiliate). Check your local listings, and just hope that Sci-Fi doesn't postpone things again.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:50:35 PM
IP: 207-172-121-94.s94.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Hmm, it took twenty minutes to hook up to the comments page... It seems AOL is being a big jerk once again. My entire buddy list of 8 people suddenly all dropped out at exactly the same time, except for SJ for some reason, possibly because of his internet provider. I can no longer access my mail, new or old, no web page is opening for me, this one took nearly half an hour... All night long I've been getting messages about AOL being sorry for slowdown because its upgrading... Someone kill Dis Connect and a few AOhell employees for me... Hopefully this situation will fix itself soon.
Robby
Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:47:54 PM
IP: spider-wc022.proxy.aol.com

****BEGIN RP***
"What? You actually want me to clone Jim Iza Noying?" SJ asked in shock. Kari, in her grief over her brother's demise, had just given SJ a bombshell of an ultimatem: she wanted the young geneticist to clone her dead brother, and she wanted him to do it now.
"Yes," Kari replied, a fire in her eyes. "I...I know my brother and I didn't get along, but he's some of the only family I have. I don't want to lose him, not if I have to!"
"Kari...I don't exactly have the best track record with clones. I cloned Kitiana, we get Asil. I clone myself, we get SJ Two, who damn near killed me....thank the Maker he's dead. If I clone Jim, I have no idea how things could turn out."
"Do you care about me?" Kari asked with tears in her eyes.
"What?"
"Do you care about me?"
"Don't do this to me. You know I do. I..."
"Then do this for me. Okay? Bring him back. I know you can."
With a sigh, SJ hung his head low. He nodded slowly.
***PAUSE RP FOR NOW***

Dinosaucers: You people. *smiles* It's like I grew up with you people! I *loved* that show when I was a kid! You had the good dinos, and the evil dinos....It was sort of like a Jurassic Park version of "Transformers", but it was still a fun show. Unlike the "Extreme Dinosaurs" show which, I believe, was by the same folks who brought us the detestable Street Sharks. Now *that* was a waste of celluloid. I'm glad I didn't waste any time with that abomination.

Chicken deaths: What, you people are surprised that chickens are that active after death? Haven't you ever heard the old expression "Running around like a chicken with their head cut off"? (Why, old grandma Sevarius used to say that...;) Yep, killin' chickens is *not* pretty, if for no other reason than they do have that disturbing habit of running around after death. BTW, anyone remember that old Saturday Night Live fake commercial with Adam Sandler doing the voice of the disembodied chicken head? "Cluckin' Chicken" I think it was called....

Jewel: If I'm not mistaken, the "Neil Gaiman's Murder Mysteries" special is an adaptation of his short story of the same name, found in his "Smoke and Mirrors" collection. It's pretty dern good, and certainly worth the 40 minutes to hear it on the net (you gotta have real audio, or its equivalent, though).
And congratulations on a car! Good to see you finally have some wheels. Hope you find an apartment, too. I suppose it was for the best that you didn't take the last one. If I remember correctly, the price was pretty low--a bad sign to begin with. I mean, around here you just don't find cheap apartments nowadays....unless you want to live next to a crack dealer or a whore.

***OLD MOVIE REVIEW****
Well, I'm bored, and the room hasn't been that busy as of late, so I'll give a quick review of a movie I saw the other day, called "Fallen". *Sigh* here we go.
This movie SUCKED. It sucked long, it sucked hard, it was a horrible film. It was overly long, it was tedious, it was boring.....I felt so screwed out of my money. Thank God I only paid a buck for this rental....Okay, the movie starts promising. We have Elias Koteas playing some sort of wacked out psycho on death row, about to be executed. Denzel Washington is the cop that put him away. Killer gets smoked (after a interesting scene involving chanting in Syrian Aramaic), then we see his "spirit" possess another body. Now, at this point, things *could* have gotten intersting. We could have seen the spirit, through various bodies, stalk Denzel to the extreme. As it plays out, it just kills some people and sort of frames Denzel's character for it. Okay, we find out it's the demon Azazel....obviously, even though he's a bit-time demon, he's got nothing better to do than screw around with Denzel. Embeth Daviditz character was essentially wasted....And in one of the true travesties, Denzel's nephew doesn't even shed a tear when he finds out his dad is dead. The multiple body swapping gets annoying real fast.....and the ending--what the hell is this? Was this some sort of attempt to do a "Seven" like dark ending? The ending was the worst!! I cared so little for Denzel's character, I didn't bat an eyelid when he died or Azazel got away. This movie just sucked. It wasn't scary--even though it advertized itself as horror--and it just wound up being predictable, stupid, and just plain horrible. Another movie in the same vein is the "Prophecy"...the difference being that that movie was actually GOOD. Shame on you Denzel. Somewhere along the way you stopped reading the good scripts, didn't you?
***END OLD MOVIE REVIEW***

***RESUME RP****
SJ patched a call to Wilek from a comm unit in the room while Kari busied herself getting ready to return to Earth. "Um...Wilek, it's SJ. Kari and I need to go off-station for a while. We're gonna need my TIE Scimitar fueled up and ready to go shortly."
<<Sure,>> Wilek said over the channel. <<But what's up? Why are you leaving?>>
"Um...it's kind of personal. It's...um...about Jim."
<<Oh. I see.>>
"Yeah. But it's not what you might think. We, um...we're going to try to bring Jim back."
There was a momentary silence. <<Did I just hear your right? Did you actually say you're going to bring Jim *back*?>>
"I'll explain later. Just have the Scimitar fueled up, if you would. With any luck....Jim won't be dead for long."
****END RP FOR NOW***

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:30:11 PM
IP: 207-172-121-94.s94.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Mary Sue > I don't know when the _term_ originated, but the practice has sure gone on a long time ... D'Artagnan, anyone? ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 10:56:11 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

**de-fixates for a moment**

Jewel: New car? Coooolies ... **insert evil mechanic laughter here**
Seriously, though ... the best piece of advice I can give ye for that car is, for the first couple of years, when it needs *anything,* go to the dealer because depending on the terms, it'll be covered under warranty. Other than that ... just try not to jump 'er. ;)

And I see that I goofed up big-time and submitted *way* too early. :P

**slinks away to the lawn chair again**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, August 29, 1999 10:24:46 PM
IP: 207.91.254.2

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Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michgian
Sunday, August 29, 1999 10:20:06 PM
IP: 207.91.254.2

I bought a car!!!!!

I am now the proud owner of a cayenne-red 2000 Chevy Cavalier. $0 down. Thank God for rebates--there was a $1000 rebate on the car, plus a $400 rebate just because I had just graduated from college--and nigh-instant credit acceptance because I graduated. My insurance payments, suck, but I expected that, thanks to Mr. tree. Arg.

I also just got back from Bryn Mawr--I drove up there for an acappella concert--every year at the end of freshman orientation week, the acapella groups have the graduated seniors come back and sing. I'm in a group called Deceptive Cadence (so's Irina...and click on my name to see the webpage I started on for it, which Irina will be taking over...and if you look, y'all will find one of the very rare *undoctored* pictures of me). We did "Snowman" by the Neilds and "Will I?" from _Rent_. I have a solo in "Will I?" (If you knwo it, I do both the solo first part of the round and that random part at the end where the chick sings high--it pays to have a 3 octave range!) and, when I finished the section where I start the round, there was the huge mess of applause and cheering from the audience--in the middle of the song, just for my solo! I was in so much shock. I mean, whoa. And I also had a random chick stop me afterwards that night to tell me I did a great job. =)

It was fun being back up at the Mawr...but so surreal. That didn't stop me from hooking up with some friends and doing some serious partying. I got to play bartender again, which I've missed. <g> You know your rep preceeds you when, five minutes of being spotted at a party, you've got people runnign up to you and yelling, "Jewel! The liquor goddess! Mix me something!" (Service annoucement: Don't drink until you're 21. I didn't...with only 3 exceptions.)

Anyway, I got back here this afternoon, and then went out car shopping. I hadn't intending on buying one, but I liked it, so I did. CD, a/c, anti-lock brakes, rear defrost...all I need now is an apartment, and I happy.

Cats vs Dogs: Sorry, but snakes are better. ;) (And yes, I have a snake--a two-year-old ball python named Maximillian, aka Max, aka Maxie-poo, aka my widdle Maxie-poo.) Snakes are cuddly and if you have sore neck, just drap 'em over you and instant message.

Nazi disucssion - Arg! I missed it! Arg. (Remeber, I was a history major, whose focus was on WWII Germany...)

GB: I haven't forgotten about you, honest. I just haven't been able to e-mail you, since I limit my on-line time, and my computer is dying. Arg. I'll try to read that story Monday and reply then.

Coyote: thanks for the offer of help with the car. <g> I'm going to have to learn about cars. I know nothing, and this is bad... I mean, I can't even change a tire.

SJ- I saw the commercial for that sci-fi Neil Gaiman thing...I am *so* there...

I was gonna say more, but I'm totally wiped out and it's time I go beddy-bye.
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:40:13 PM
IP: 207-172-75-136.s136.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Room wipes- The theory is that this happens at Midnight between Sunday and Monday. However, since people avoid posting right before a room wipe, and there aren't any new episodes just yet, I've been wiping the room a few hours early the last few weeks for the heck of it and to jump start conversation again. (I considered wiping at a minute after midnight last night, but decided a day early wipe was too extreme.) And normally I claim first by cheating and posting while I clear the room, but I decided to let someone else have it this week. As for why we're so excitable about claiming top ten? Its a tradition that started the first week of the CR and has been upheld since. Wait until the new season of Dark Ages starts up and I clear the room at its proper time. There's some true competition then!

And a formal welcome to all newbies, give me your sanity for safe keeping, congrats to all those finding romance, happy birthday, etc. etc. etc.

Oh and...

VISIT STATION EIGHT!
VISIT STATION EIGHT!
Robby the CR Admin
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:38:31 PM
IP: spider-wi012.proxy.aol.com

AW man My post was too long.13.

Hi, space babie,are you in this room right now. I was wondering if we could make this like a chat room for a minute.I tried the chat room and it wouldn't work.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:16:12 PM
IP: proxy-383.public.rwc.webtv.net

Ohh, man, what a crappy day! I wanted to write a big rant about this scumbag customer...but I just got calmed down. I'll wait until I can think about it without popping a rivet...

Anyway, moving right along....

Jenniren, Wilek: Yeah, that's why bodies sometimes keep twitching after they've been shot or whatever, the nerves still work for a while... One time my dad had caught a fish, and mom started to cut the head off--and it jumped out of the sink. It might've caused her to have flashbacks.... O_o

Fire Storm: The bitch got fired? YAY! Things are lookin' up! **hugz**

Coyote: Congrats on the lisence plate! :D

"The life of writing men has always been a bitter business. It is notoriously accompanied, for those who write well, by poverty and contempt; or by fatuity and wealth for those who write ill." ---Hillaire Belloc
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:14:26 PM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com

12th.YES!!!!!But that doesn't count. I didn't know you guys would be that exited to be the first ten in a new wipe, when do they actually happen?You guys are even more insane than I thought.Don't worry that's kewl, I'll try really hard to catch up.

Man , I just saw and taped "The Edge". I'm glad they played one that I lost. But they should bring it out of that Toon disney summer crap and just put it every mon-fri at primetime. They cancelled our show we at least deserve that. And that was just to tide me over until they do[if they do].I hate the writing at the bottom, they make it look even immature.I hope all of you saw it too.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:13:29 PM
IP: proxy-383.public.rwc.webtv.net

Dang missed it! what time does the room usually wipe?

Hmmm I love these chupa pops

I hearby elect Sarge to be the rooms offical top 10 person.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, August 29, 1999 09:09:21 PM
IP: ts003d10.orl-fl.concentric.net

**re-enters the room, switching out the candles this time**

Okay ... so it *was* an early wipe, I wasn't hallucinating. Good. Because I'm not taking any drugs, and that would have *really* worried me ... ;)

License plate: I installed it this morning ... I can't stop staring at it ... it's too dang kewwwwl ... :)

Fire Storm: Ugghhhhh, bad computer problems ye've got there ... wish I could give you some advice, but I can't. Computers just aren't my strong point.

Princess Estra: Wow, coolies, you're back. Welcome back to the insanity.

Princess Mera: Woo, we're just swimming in royalty now. ;) j/k. Welcome to the asylum, sorry I didn't catch ye earlier.

Sarge: That Top Ten list is fit for Letterman, my friend. :)

Hmm ... the CR's still taking a while to reload ... let's take a walk down memory lane with my G99 pics! ;)
Hmm ... weird thing about my pics (besides the one I took of myself at the airport that makes me look SOOO hung over) is the fact that every time I took a piccy of Siryn, her eyes were glowing. No matter what angle. Odd, huh? :)
Ahh, there's me and Mandi in costume ...
Oh, the room's reloaded. And there's nothing else there but the end of the merry race. Ah well ...

**sits back in the lawn chair, portable TV in hand, only turning away from his fixation to watch "Gargoyles" on Disney this evening.**
Coyote the Not-Quite-As-Confused-Anymore Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, August 29, 1999 08:01:27 PM
IP: 207.91.254.2

kickass!
Artemisia
Sunday, August 29, 1999 07:44:18 PM
IP: cacheflow1.gw.utexas.edu

TEN???
Artemisia - [aptemisia@theglobe.com]
Austin, TX
Sunday, August 29, 1999 07:43:06 PM
IP: cacheflow1.gw.utexas.edu

Roundin' out the pack at number nine!
shogun raptor
Sunday, August 29, 1999 07:31:17 PM
IP: miami-trans2.firn.edu

Eight. First time I'm in the top ten in a while.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 07:29:40 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.65.47.losangeles1.level3.net

Wow, this is strange, usually I'm at work and don't catch the room right after wipe
delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:47:11 PM
IP: 207.14.200.78

Damn man....that's quite a bit early, but at least I'm in top ten....

Later all.....
Ordell - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:42:46 PM
IP: ppp-128.ode.cableone.net

Fifth!!!!
Peter - [peter_bijl@hotmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:29:46 PM
IP: dial-164.ocis.net

Whohoo!!! fourth!
Bronx Wyvern - [Bronx4me@aol.com]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:28:07 PM
IP: spider-wd082.proxy.aol.com

**listens to his footsteps echo**

Did this room wipe *really* early, or am I hallucinating??

**shrugs and leaves**
Coyote the Confused Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:18:46 PM
IP: 207.91.254.2

Second! WOOOHOOO!!!
Mary Flanders
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:14:07 PM
IP: stk-ts1-h1-36-218.ispmodems.net

Unlurks and waves. Top ten. Back to knitting dishclothes.

Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, August 29, 1999 06:13:28 PM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net