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SJ: Yeah, of course you can use my fics. :) Good luck posting them, they can all be found at GFW. Don't forget to give me the link for your Gargs website once it's up. :)
Kit's Situation: We thank everyone who has sent get-well wishes. If anyone's worried, it turned out she was suffering from a headache and a heavy cold, nothing worse. <phew> I've nursed her a little, given some medicine, and she's resting. If she's feeling better tomorrow (and I think she may be) and she has the time, Kit may make a post in here. Keep the good vibes coming, and that possibility might be ensured. <grins, throws nuke grenade at Sli Sludge>
Later,
Doug
Sunday, September 26, 1999 02:56:52 AM
IP: pool-209-138-160-56.dlls.grid.net
Christine> how 'bout Misty and Brock? lol i dunno, he seems kinda girl-crazy anyway. j/k i don't understand the logic of preferring to write Blue's Clues rather than Pokemon though, is it the cuteness factor?
Anonymous
Sunday, September 26, 1999 01:44:57 AM
IP: spider-wc062.proxy.aol.com
****SHORT RP!!!****
Taking a quick glance back at the stairwell. "Geeeeeeeeez! No wonder everyone's so mean here. If I have to go up those stairs one more time, I'd start shooting at people too.
****END RP!!!****
Hey you. Yeah you, come here. What channel is Beast Machines on? And what time?
Fire Storm-<7 sets of genitals> That reminds me of a quote:
Ivanova to Londo while he tries to explain about the lack of genitalia on his doll: 'So you feel like you're being symbolically cast-...in a bad light.' (The doll was from a Babylon 5 memorabilia emporium)
Pistoff- Have I found anyway to help? Well yesterday I discovered that if I stay awake for 25 hours straight, I am then able to get 6 hours of complete, uninterupted sleep.
Doug- I hope Kitainia feels better soon.
Bruce Timm calling Gargoyles crap- Here Brucy, Brucy. I have something for you. <POW>
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los alamos, CA
Sunday, September 26, 1999 12:55:45 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net
Oh, forgot --
SJ > by all means, be my guest! Though if you'd add something telling everyone to buy my book, too, that'd be tres sweet ; )
Cannibalism > I might get there eventually ... if not in fic, when I do my zombie novel, the main character is a ghoul and a Calaani priest, evil to the core. As I recall, in the rough draft, there's a scene in which he has an argument with his landlady, rips out her tongue, and has it lightly braised and served to him for dinner ...
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, September 26, 1999 12:30:55 AM
IP: dial82.b3.tnt4.wa.freei.net
Just to state this clearly, it's _Pokemon_ I don't plan to touch fic-wise! Blue's Clues, maybe, but not Pokemon. Gah! What would it be? Misty and Starme? Oog. I think not!
My fanfic progress > at the moment, I am devoting my time to working on ElfLore Book I, hoping to have it done by the end of the year. This means fanfic is way on the back burner.
I've got the first bit of "The Boy With the Healing Hands" written but that was mostly because I wanted to get the hideous pun Ebon springs on the gang in print before I could forget it (though it might've been better if I had forgotten, ouch!).
So, at the moment, there is no fic forthcoming and probably not for several weeks. If I break from ElfLore to do anything, it'll probably be a sequel to "Night Saber," my Star Wars story. I've been thinking about that a lot lately.
But I assure you all, I'm by no means done with Gargoyles! Just taking a break. I still have at least 19 stories to go if I'm going to outnumber actual episodes.
Some of the ones on the agenda, in no particular order:
"The Boy With the Healing Hands" -- about Ebon, Gabriel, and the kids they rescued from the Institute
"Puck Teaser" -- MacBeth and Birdie make a bet over whether she can seduce a certain merry wanderer of the night
"Terminatrix" -- Hyena's up to no good and Jackal may finally reappear
"Statue" -- a Blackadder crossover with Demona and MacBeth in the time of Queen Elizabeth
"The Guardians: (untitled)" -- Amber and her cousin Dee both get a crush on the same new Sterling Academy student, Feral St. John
"Damien" -- there's a new evil on the scene
"Hellclan" -- sequel to Damien, in which it really hits the fan
"Frolicsome Matings" -- (this one's only a maybe) Angela tries to encourage her clan to be a little more free with their affections
My plate is very full, as you can see!
Agent news > one down, three to go in terms of pending rejection letters for Black Roses :P
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, September 26, 1999 12:26:05 AM
IP: dial82.b3.tnt4.wa.freei.net
Robby> <<Well, I just finished a nine hour project of drawing one of the greatest Silverbolt/Black Arachnia sequences in the series...>> Kewl! Will you be scanning it? ^_^
Pistoff> Heh heh heh... <<Checking for Head Warpage>> Kinda redundant for us of the CR, wouldn't you say? >;) <<Removal of the Brain>> I HAVE to see that one! >8)
Zath> <<How about cannibalism then?>> There might be some implied cannibalism in my next fic if it ever gets finished...
Xanathar> Gross story> Eccch! That sounds hideous! And you have to have it done again?! <shudder> <<It's always sad to hear of a game company disbanding(especially an older company like Trylobyte:()>> So true. What makes it so much worse is, they were working on a third game in the 7th Guest series, one of my favorite games. I think it would have been called The 13th Soul or something similar. <snif> It could have been so beautiful...
David G> Xyber 9> Renard and Titania, eh? This should be interesting...
Mary Flanders> <<We were in the midst of a conversation and all of a sudden he wasn't getting my messeges. >:( I was getting his and my messeges were being sent but he wasn't getting them!>> Mr. Disconnect's been busy, it seems. <slowly eviscerates DC>
Heather> <<I'm not really responding to this but the things that you guys talk about can make a person go crazy.>> Unsurprising, considering that they're the products of insane minds. ^_^ Cassie> Sounds kewl. :)
Greg Xanatos Bishansky> <<Bruce Timm producer of Batman/Superman called Gargoyles crap in an interview.>> I read about that in the other CR. <brandishes a crystal scimitar> Bruce is on my list.
Forgot last time> Pistoff and Stephen> Good luck getting your stories published! :D
Jewel> Good luck finding a place. Oh, and that job at Borders might be a good idea. Borders is such a great little place; I get most of my books and CDs from there. ^_^
Blue Caeru> <<Saturday Morning Cartoons: *chuckles* If only I could get up early enough...>> I'm the same way. I'm such a night owl that I always end up going to bed at about 4 in the morning and getting up around 2 in the afternoon. (Could that have something to do with the fact that, besides being a gargoyle, I spend much of my life lurking in here...? Nah...)
SJ> <<ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!! I'm attempting to put together a Gargoyles fansite. Thing is, I need lots of stuff, like pictures and fan fiction. So, to everyone out here, if you're willing to let me use your stuff (like artwork, or stories), let me know!>> Kewl! Feel free to use anything on my site (name link). I didn't do most of the artwork or any of the music (which technically has nothing to do with Gargoyles), but if you credit the artists I don't think they'll mind. :)
Coyote> <<I really had nothing to worry about in the purge, my job was secure. There was a guy from Loss Prevention at the store yesterday going over the particulars ... what basically it came down to was that the folks were fired mainly for theft ... both merchandise and cash. And so many of them were canned that it's gonna take us one *hell* of a long time to catch up in employments ...>> Wow. Glad your job was secure, although it stinks that so many ppl were stealing from the company. O_o
Shogun> Kewl Six Degrees. You could have used Jeri Ryan's guest shot on Dilbert (I think that happened, although perhaps I'm hallucinating again), but that would have been too easy. ;)
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, September 26, 1999 12:16:28 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
It was a Red Claw ep that inspired this
shogun raptor
Saturday, September 25, 1999 11:07:32 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net
and now, just because I felt like it, the return of...
SIX DEGREES OF GARGOYLES
Dilbert to Gargs....GO!
Dilbert is voiced by Daniel Stern...
who played in "home alone" with macaulay culkin (sp?)...
who was in "richie Rich" with John Larroquete...
who was in "night court" with Richard moll...
who was in Batman: TAS with Kate Mulgrew*...
Who voiced Titania on Gargs
*Mulgrew voiced the evil terrorist, Red Claw, Moll did two-face and the batcomputer on occasion, and sure, I could've used Jeff benett or Ed Asner, but
shogun raptor
Saturday, September 25, 1999 11:06:39 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net
SEVARIUS JR - You wrote: [Has anyone else in here checked out the new Bishop series?]
Yeah, I also picked up the first two issues. So far it's been pretty strong. I've never really been a Bishop fan but he's always had potential. I like the idea that he is still a man out of time but he has gone from being a hero worshipper to a hero being worshipped. Also what I particularly like is that the second issue alone has done wonders for rehabilitating Fitroy as a villian. (Now all I really want to see is perhaps some more survivors from modern times - we got to see the Witness who could be Gambit but it would be nice to maybe see someone from Generation X or X-Force who might have possibly survived through everything into that future. It'd be fun to see maybe Husk with a Cannonball-as-X-Force-leader attitude or Warlock wandering around.)
ROBBY - I'm in agreement with Heather. I'd love to see that Silverbolt/Black Arachnia picture. Like I keep saying, their relationship was one of the very high points for BEAST WARS as well as the element that got me hooked on the show. (And the one plot element that I'm waiting to see BEAST MACHINES address.)
FALL SATURDAY LINE-UP - I say that FOX is better this season, judging by the fact that I seem to be watching more of their shows than WB shows. The only shows on the WB that I saw was BATMAN BEYOND and POKEMON. And from those two I have to say that I am getting really bored with BB. And on top of it Terry just gets on my nerves. POKEMON gets my attention because all those Pokemon are just so cute! Especially Jigglypuff and Togapi. (Today's episode was pretty good. Jigglypuff really kicked ass!)
With FOX I saw XYBER 9, DIGIMON, and BEAST MACHINES. (When AVENGERS comes on, I plan to watch that too.)
XYBER 9 isn't so bad and it does have that Arthurian feel to it but the first episode didn't really catch me. Everytime I heard the Xyber's voice I kept thinking "So THAT's what Charles Xavier's up to now that his show is cancelled!". I'll give this show a few more episodes to win me over.
Once I get over the voice in my mind that cries "Ripoff!" and actually sit down to watch it, DIGIMON isn't so bad. I was watching it mainly because I was waiting for BEAST MACHINES to come on but there's an actual plot and the characters all have proper individual personalities.
BEAST MACHINES is fantastic though this episode should have been called THE REFORMATTING Part 2 instead of MASTER OF THE HOUSE. Seen together with the first episode, everything tends to make more sense and flow better. Megatron shows up and you can feel how powerful and evil he is. It was just great. The Maximals bring up all the complaints that we (and the Transformers newsgroup) have been mentioning - like what the hell happened and when do we get to find out how everything got the way it is. And Rattrap is just hillarious in this series. I like him much more than I ever did in BEAST WARS. The major complaints I have in this episode are that there still haven't been any mention of Rhinox or Silverbolt and that everytime the Maximals transformed, they kept saying "I am transformed!" It really got on my nerves. I hope that after a short, short while they just stop using it, kind of like how some BEAST WARS characters stopped using Maximize and Terrorize after a while. (The Rhinox and Silverbolt ommissions aren't that bad at this moment for two reasons - first all the heroes mention that they are still having memory glitches so it's possible that when they sit down to repair all that they will remember the two missing Maximals and second these two episodes are all taking place within an hour or three of the same day. They just haven't had the time in between walking up, getting attacked, getting reformatted, learning to transform, and then fighting Megatron to reflect on the fates of two characters who they might not remember.)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:57:37 PM
IP: 67.new-york-13-14rs.ny.dial-access.att.net
**enters ... crawls into ... the CR, weakly switching out the candles and pulling himself into the massage chair, expending all of his energy in the process. After dozing for a moment, comes back to**
I knew this was how it's going to go ... those idiots got their butts fired, and the rest of us get screwed in the process. Badly undermanned and busier than hell, y'know? Urrrrghhh ...
Pogo: I work in retail. Specifically a retail auto parts store. I'm a counterman and recently (Wednesday) accredited as an engine salesman.
All those concerned about my employment situation: I really had nothing to worry about in the purge, my job was secure. There was a guy from Loss Prevention at the store yesterday going over the particulars ... what basically it came down to was that the folks were fired mainly for theft ... both merchandise and cash. And so many of them were canned that it's gonna take us one *hell* of a long time to catch up in employments ... the front office has to give authorization on all new hires, and the kind of bureaucratic bullcrap they go through makes military red tape look like a cakewalk. :P
Pissy: I took great solace in the quote at the end of your post after today's crowd ... many of whom rated about a 19 on the 1-to-10 mental retardation scale. :P
Fire Storm, re: parts manager: Your guess is as good as mine as to why he's laid up, mein freund. Last I'd known was that he was suffering from heavy-duty allergies, but he was a major-league slacker and every one of the other counterfolks think he's an honest-to-God prick.
G"X"B: Welcome back, dude! And he's not far off the mark, next season's TGS *is* gonna rock.
Note to Christine: Received the hard copy of "Rain and Rosanna" today ... just thought ye'd like to know. :)
SJ: Ye have my permission to post my stuff on your site ... fics *and* art. What the hell, I can always use another backup site, y'never know.
"Batman" stuff: Y'know, I don' think I ever mentioned this ... a few months ago, DC released a special issue of "Young Justice" which crossed over into the "Batman: No Man's Land" storyline. The male members of the team (Superboy, Robin and Impulse) wound up facing off against one of Poison Ivy's plant creations, a female humanoid called "Ferak."
And call me crazy, but the outfit that Ferak was wearing looked a *hell* of a lot like Demona's outfit. Seriously, the halter top's one strap was even over the correct shoulder!!!
Heh ... Dini may think "Gargoyles" sucks, but ultimately it's Greg who gets the last laugh. :)
**sits back in the massage chair, fixating and feeding his hopes for Monday and a certain poster's return ...**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:34:37 PM
IP: modem57.i-is.com
*begin RP* the deadly seven are high-fiving each other when suddenly a particle beam blast blows Shogun's head off, slowly the charred stump regenerates into the mutate's head
Shogun turns in horror to see the blast came from his own vehicle"Flypside, What in the name of Nemesis are you doing!?" yells shogun, but his answer comes in the form of maniacal cackling "I'm sorry fleshopod, Flypside is a bit TIED UP!!!!"
"BLACKWING!"
"Come on out son, we can talk about this, no need to go splitting wires" coaxes Doc
"or heads" grumbles shogun
"FORGET IT MONKEY-MECH!"
"look" offers shogun "we gave you the normal cut of the bounty for the Waspinator job"
"THIS ISN'T ABOUT THAT! THIS IS ABOUT REVENGE! HE WAS MINE TO DEAL WITH! I WAS STALKING HIM SINCE HE WAS LEFT ON PREHISTORIC EARTH! THAT BOUNTY WAS MINE BY RIGHT OF REVENGE!! HE SERVED ONE WHO TOOK THE LIFE OF A CLOSE FRIEND AND YOU DEPRIVED ME OF THAT! SO I'LL TAKE IT OUT OF ALL OF YOUR HIDES!!!
*to be continued*
Speaking of Greg, I think I saw his name under the "written by" credits, on Big guy & rusty, speaking of which, next week is a new men in black, with luck it'll be a Greg one
*beast machines spoilers ahead*
well that explains THOSE loose ends, and here I thought the transmetallization process was the virus, the whole thing smacks of disrupted time, where's the vok when you need them?
but if nothing else, this show ended the rift between BW fans and G1 fans, I take it back, Bob Skir does know a bit about the show, he just can't answer fan questions worth a smeg, and as for BW/gargs, a BW/gargs celebrity deathmatch is in the works for me, I'm planning two versions, one for each fandom
Batman/supes> they weren't all bad, just the better part of them, I'll name my top eleven in terms of the new batman
11. Over the edge
10. Love is a croc
9.the ultimate thrill
8.Knight Time (I just love self-mockery)
7.critters (see number 8)
6.Girl's Night out
5. Chemistry (the plant clone Poison Ivy Created was a walking Piccolo Refrence, between the stretchy arms and self-regeneration)
4. World's finest
3. Joker's millions(another Joker/harley classic)
2.beware the creeper (picking up on a theme here)
1. Mad Love (harley, the Joker, batman laughing and calling Joker "puddin'" what's not to like?)
shogun raptor
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:26:40 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net
Not much to say tonight....
ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!! I'm attempting to put together a Gargoyles fansite. Thing is, I need lots of stuff, like pictures and fan fiction. So, to everyone out here, if you're willing to let me use your stuff (like artwork, or stories), let me know! This specifically includes all you "heavies" out there in the fan fiction world (like Christine, Pistoff, Jewel, Doug....just about all of you!). So if it's okay for me to use your stuff, drop me an email, or if you want just say in here "Hey, SJ, you can use my
stuff". I'd appreciate it. :)
Saturday Morning Toons: I'm finally glad they have some good stuff worth watching. Didn't get a chance to catch Xyber 9 (although I *did* tape it), but I did see both "Beast Machines" and "Big Guy & RTBR". Both had excellent 2nd episodes. :) We get some more plot development from Beast Machines (I, for one, like the way they're taking things slowly and explaining things across the 13 episodes instead of right off to bat. It helps build mystery this way :). Big Guy was fun as well (for some reason, I love that Bobby Hill is Rusty!)
Heather: Now why do you say you'd like to shoot the person who thought Bugs is gay? Can't a popular cartoon figure come out of the closet? All those years of having to live a lie....of being a hare inside a bunny's body.....of harboring a secret crush on Elmer Fudd....when will our cartoon characters be able to stand up and be out and proud?
Okay, in all serious, no, he's not a homosexual. But it'd be kind of trippy if he was, wouldn't it? All those old cartoons would never be quite the same, would they?
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:17:46 PM
IP: 207-172-41-184.s184.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
I only saw a little of "Xyber 9" this morning, but I agree with Stephen Sobotka that it is indeed very Arthurian in style - I definitely noticed a touch of the Sword in the Stone legend about it. I noticed the "King Renard" bit but not the "Queen Titania" part - somebody really ought to tell Greg about that.
Incidentally, I've also seen both episodes so far released of "Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century". It's still a bit so-so, but one thing that I do like about it is that the writers are clearly familiar with the Holmes stories of Arthur Conan Doyle. They not only have Holmes, Watson and Moriarty in it, but also 22nd namesake/analogies to Lestrade, Gregson, and Wiggins. (In the original Holmes stories by Doyle, Lestrade and Gregson were a pair of Scotland Yard inspectors who worked with Holmes from time to time and received his assistance, Lestrade being the more prominent of the two - they particularly teamed up in the very first Holmes story "A Study in Scarlet", but only in that one - and Wiggins was the leader of the Baker Street Irregulars, a group of London street urchins which assisted Holmes with his cases from time to time, which I see as an omen for the future of the 22nd century Wiggins). Holmes's body is mentioned as having been preserved in honey - I find that interesting, since in Doyle's stories, Holmes, when he finally retired from the practice, took up beekeeping. They definitely caught Holmes's ability for deduction (and awareness of it) very well, too.
Although one thing that did puzzle me was this; the episode this morning was stated in the opening credits as inspired by one of Doyle's Holmes stories, "The Valley of Fear", but other than the involvement of Moriarty in it, I could see no link. (To explain this story, "The Valley of Fear", briefly, Holmes is called in to investigate the case of a murder in a stately home near London, the murder of a man who was being targeted by Professor Moriarty on the behalf of a criminal gang from the United States - the man was a former Pinkerton and had broken them up. It's particularly of note in being a two-parter with the second part of it being almost exclusively a flashback to the story about how the Pinkerton in the story had broken up the criminals, with Holmes and Watson only appearing at the end).
At any rate, it may have some hope - and it's certainly nice to see an animated serious adventure series with literary roots airing. I'm a bit of a Holmes fan, I don't mind admitting.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, September 25, 1999 06:38:50 PM
IP: 216.87.46.229.dialup-stl.primary.net
****** Stupid RP just for the heck of it ******
*Blue Caeru enters the CR carrying a bo, preparing for a battle against the Demon of Procrastination*
Caeru: Argh! Why must you constantly follow me around and plague me like... like... well, like my family?! *attempts to twirl her bo and accidentally hits herself in the chin with it* Ow.
Demon: Uh... because I don't feel like doing my homework?
*They battle. In the end, B.C. is sprawled out on the floor, semi-conscious, muttering something about using the Holy Time Planner in the next battle against the Demon.*
****** End RP ******
Warpmind de InZane: Okay. <:-)
Pistoff: Thanks. But it's not that life has been so terrible to me lately... things have been all right, in fact (except that I'm procrastinating instead of studying for my French exam :-P). It's just that there's injustice EVERYWHERE and that bothers me. Society makes me sick sometimes.
Mandolin: "Now and Again" seems interesting, but I have only 5 channels. :-P I can watch "Once and Again" though.
Saturday Morning Cartoons: *chuckles* If only I could get up early enough... *gets up and smacks the Demon of Procrastination*
Well, the library is about to close and I've got to catch the bus, so good bye!
Blue Caeru
Saturday, September 25, 1999 05:22:14 PM
IP: smathersl1.uflib.ufl.edu
jewel> <raising eyebrow>
*** spoilers for jewel's and christine's fics ***
In "Egli era nato" you've written scenes of incestuous *rape* (even if they were only visions), and you were traumatized by 'Whirlwind' where the only hint of incest was that Coyote *looked* like Beth's dad?
That's... weird. Kinda cute but weird. :)
*** end spoilers ***
As for me, whenever the hell I'm going to finish writing the fics I started, (I didn't write more than two long paragraphs this month, and I had been planning to finish the first fic by end September) I'm planning to include an incestuous relationship in my (possibly) second story... There's a *slight* possibility that won't happen, but I wouldn't count on it...
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 04:28:29 PM
IP: athe530-g076.otenet.gr
Pokemon > I really like this show (I even have the gameboy versions). The artwork is great, the characters/monsters are cute, and there are underlying themes, like friendship, exploration, and teamwork. And, if nothing else, it also teaches you how to make command decisions.
I know Christine thinks capturing those "animals" out of their natural habitat is cruel, but I look at it more as hiring employees who are keeping their eyes open for a good job. I mean, if those animals didn't *want* to be captured on some level, they wouldn't be, and they are *way* too willing to obey their trainer's orders.
Plus, they're so *cute*!
Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 04:16:05 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu
Sorry 'bout the double post, but I *knew* there was something i forgot to add...
Incest: <chuckles> Man,I got traumatized by Christine Morgan's Whirlwind" (when I was far more easily-traumatized than I am) and had to stop reading her stuff. I've heard stories, however, of everything that came next... And, y'know, it's kinda scary to think that I got traumatized by reading something, considering the kind of stuff I write. <g> I guess I can write it (and let the little subconscious demons out of the basement for a while) but not read it...
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 04:15:35 PM
IP: 207-172-73-198.s198.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
Hi, aill. Im back from spending all day driving around looking at apartments. God, I'll be happy when I find a place. I hate looking. Everythign was out of my rpice range, and everything in my prace range doesn't have anything. I'm thining maybe of getting a job at Borders or something.
Stephen King: I love this guy's sense of humor... The guy is just plain cool. And he's friends with Neil Gaiman.
Bugs Bunny: Well, he does like to dress up like a girl a lot...
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 04:08:38 PM
IP: 207-172-73-198.s198.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
That's good to know, Greg. Thanks. Hope I get the full reviews soon. :)
Doug
Saturday, September 25, 1999 03:18:00 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-193.dlls.grid.net
Hi everyone. I'm not gone, I've just been very busy.
Doug> I know I promised you reviews of your recent fanfics and you will recieve them when I get a chance to write them. Till then I'm jst going to say that they rocked.
Christine> When's the next fanfic coming? I'm looking forward to reading it.
My opinions on this fall's lineup> Fox is getting good again. And WB is airing more and more crap. Batman Beyond isn't as interesting anymore, they'd better bring back Blight. They ended the Ras al Ghul thread terribly on Batman/Superman. And I'm sick of Pokemon. I can't stand Pokemon! I despise Pokemon! No offense to anyone here who does like it.
Beast Machines Spoilers>
So far it rocks. Today's episode was much better than the first. Megatron rocked! And I really liked the way he looked in his dragon-mode in today's episode. I do think that he's finally snapped though.
End Spoilers
Xyber 9> Very interesting show. I like the fantasy/sci-fi elements. It's very Arthurian. I think Todd would like this show. I really liked the King Renard and Queen Titania bit.
End Fall Lineup
Bruce Timm producer of Batman/Superman called Gargoyles crap in an interview. I hate this man. He ruined Batman and Superman was always crap. Where does he get the nerve.
That's all for now.
BTW> next season of TGS is going to rock. It will be worth the wait.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@aol.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 12:55:25 PM
IP: spider-wj023.proxy.aol.com
Robby > I would LOVE to see that Silver/Black A. pic. **raises eyebrow at him** If you can get the scanner to work...**cracks knuckles**
Bugs Bunny > I'm not really responding to this but the things that you guys talk about can make a person go crazy. Like Bugs Bunny being gay ? Somebody shoot the person who thought that!
Anyway, I have also been drawing. It's a character that I made up a LONG time ago. You know how Coyote B. has Rosanna has Goliath's and Elisa's daughter, well I made up my own version. She looks like Rosanna but doesn't at the same time. She kinda looks like Jennifer Lopez for some strange reason. Her name is Cassie, I don't know why I named her that but I thought it would be a nice name. I made a close up pic of her yesterday that I later scanned and colored. If anyone wants to see the pic just respond to my pointless post.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 12:51:15 PM
IP: abd92a9d.ipt.aol.com
*grumbles* Things did not go so well when I was talking to Bahemut last night (no, we did NOT break up!). We were in the midst of a conversation and all of a sudden he wasn't getting my messeges. >:( I was getting his and my messeges were being sent but he wasn't getting them! *grumbles some more*
Mary Flanders
Saturday, September 25, 1999 11:26:27 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
OK, next to the last post. (Actually, third to last, since my browser keeps doing something strange with the submit command).
Brief correction. Xyber 9 is spelled with an "X" not a "Z". We now return you to your regular programing.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:33:46 AM
IP: pppa2-fortworth6-4r201.saturn.bbn.com
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David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:32:20 AM
IP: pppa2-fortworth6-4r201.saturn.bbn.com
Hi folks. This is probably my last post from this apartment. I'll be out most of the day, and I'm moving tomorrow. (I still have boxes to pack...)
Anyway, here's something I just ran across that I thought you folks might be interested in.
***Very Minor ZYBER 9 SPOILERS***
Zyber 9 is on, and it looks pretty good, so far. The two great political powers above ground are fudal monarchies. The king of one is King Renyard, and the queen of the other is Queen Titania. Interesting...
***End Spoilers***
Wilek> Thanks. My chainsaw is packed up in a box somewhere.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:16:48 AM
IP: pppa45-fortworth9-3r234.saturn.bbn.com
Hi all!!
**WARNING,GROSS STORY AHEAD**
Well today hasn't exactly been the most fun day of my life,I had to go to the doctors to get my Ears Syringed(I've been having problems hearing lately due to Wax buildup)it's not the first time I've had this done,only this time the Syringe didn't get rid of all the wax so the Doctor had to use a pair of elongated medical tweezers(I don't know what the correct medical term for them was)and remove it that way,it was probably "THE" most uncomfortable experience I have ever had and whats worse is that I have to go and get it done again next weekend(I've been refered to a specialist who will finish the job)
**END GROSS STORY**
I hope I didn't disturb any body with the above story but I needed to get it of my chest.
Warpmind re Computer helpline story:*LOL*
Stephen re Talebones magazine:Good luck!
Coyote:the company just did what amounts to a purge. As a result, a number of employees ... including one *manager* ... were canned. Combining that with one of the parts managers being laid up in the hospital ... oyyyyyyy ...>>I'm Glad to hear you didn't lose you job.
Doug:I hope Kit feels better soon.
Pistoff:After spending years working jobs that required me to be polite, there was something amazingly gratifying about treating people like shit for a living>>AHH!!,If only I had a job like that:/
Pistoff again:You've gotta' love the Assassin's website,Who hasn't wanted to see Seinfeld die>:)
SJ:Did you guys hear this? Stephen King has just bought the van from the guy that hit him! He actually bought the vehicle that nearly took his life! He says he plans to take a sledgehammer to it as soon as he's able. Now, is it just me, or does he not have a cool sense of humor?>>My respect for Stephen King just when up a couple of notches:)
Wilek:PC gaming fans, click my name and shed a tear for one of the founders of the industry. <sigh>>>It's always sad to hear of a game company disbanding(especially an older company like Trylobyte:()
C'yas Later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Saturday, September 25, 1999 08:34:07 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
Hmmm... apparently, some time in the last 24-48 hours, yahoo officially took over rocketmail.com. **grrr** If I had wanted a yahoomail account, I would have gotten one! They claim my old address will still work, but I have yet to test that promise. *sigh* I remember when Yahoo was just a cute little search engine. Now it's out to take over the world.
Aaron> <<I think it's the millennium.>> or El Nino/La Nina : P
jenna> <<musical pieces for the gargs>> Do you have a CD burner? It sounds like you have almost enough to make an entire Garg-themed album, which would be really neat.
Christine> <<But, I hasten to assure you all, that's _not_ someplace I plan to exercise my talents ::shudder::>> How about cannibalism then? for some reason, I always found that subject somewhat amusing. Also, my anthropology TA mentioned being on a dig in Levanut (sp?) near where Jericho was, and I couldn't help thinking that would make a cool name if anyone ever cloned ol' blue boy...
Doug> <<If you get the chance, I hope you can post some of those drawings you mentioned on the web. I would very much like to see how good you are.>> Some of my old stuff is up on my site (just click my name and go to the gallery) but I haven't gotten around to finishing any of the more interesting ones I've mentioned in here on occasion. I'm not as good an artist as some others in this room, but with all the practice I'm getting doodling during boring lectures, hopefully I'll improve some. : )
Skippy and Pistoff> You think going bald at 25 is bad? I had a friend who had been going gray since he was in 5th Grade. The last time I saw him (we were both in 10th grade), he was at that "salt and pepper" stage most people don't reach until their 40's or 50's.
Pistoff> <<Removal of the Brain>> That one sounds like fun. I wonder if they show several different techniques or just one complete operation.
Mandolin> I agree with you about Now And Again. It had a relatively interesting, if slow, plot (even though the "checking his package" seemed a little predictable, it was still good for a laugh), but the music was just plain obnoxious, especially the government guy singing while Michael checked himself out in the mirror and the percussion pieces they threw in at random times.
Okay, now I'm going to bed and if anyone tries to wake me up before noon, may heaven have mercy on their souls because I certainly won't...
Bye for now.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 05:25:02 AM
IP: ppp-223-010.usc.edu
PC gaming fans, click my name and shed a tear for one of the founders of the industry. <sigh>
Wilek
Saturday, September 25, 1999 04:08:17 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
DEUCE, Re: FAT TUESDAY - I may not be 100-percent on this, so forgive me if I misquote:
Mardi Gras is called Fat Tuesday, because according to mose of the Southern Catholics(?) I've met, tell me that traditionally, it marks either the begining or the end of the last week before Lent, which is a period of fasting for 40 days (I think it's either you give up a certain favorite food or certain foods in general). During this last week, it's perfectly okay to cut loose and splurge, eat and drink all the food/s that you can't have during Lent. This is why Mardi is such a festive time; everyone having that big fling before the somber task of fasting...
At least, that's how I hear it. Can any of the practicing Catholics in here confirm this?
Maintain and Check Six! (and no, I'm not Catholic. I'm Methodist.)
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, September 25, 1999 03:59:48 AM
IP: m24.ieway.com
SJ: Thanks, bro! And no, it's not just you. Stephen King does have a cool sense of humor. :D
Wilek: <That, friend, could be the official manifesto of darn near everyone in retail and fast food. ;)> YESSSS! I wish I had a job like that! Like one of those restaurants where the employees are required to be abusive to the customers... "Whaddaya want?! I'm busy!" :)
Robby: Congrats on finishing your 9-hour project. :)
Fire Storm: (re: job) Uh...you're right. That *is* kinda weird...
And now for something else...kinda strange. From the 1994 Bowker's Complete Video Directory, here's a list of some interesting videos for sale....
Beef Cattle Castration
Checking for Head Warpage
How Pins Float on Water
Removal of the Brain
How a Screw Works
Dried Flower Fantasy
She's not Fat...She's my Mom
O_O
And finally, if anybody in here wants to get rid of Seinfeld as much as I do, click my name. :)
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 03:42:52 AM
IP: wire-15.koalas.com
Matrix DVD: Now THATS how a DVD should be made! Multiple audio tracks, comentarys, MULTIPLE trailers (NOT just for the Matrix), BIO stuff on the people, complete behind the scenes stuff, AND the complete website on DVD-ROM. Can't get much cooler than that!
Coyote: Why is the parts manager in the hospital?
Downsizing: Thats the good thing about Office Depot. There wasn't enough employees to downsize!
Deuce: Incest: Hell, knowing Christine, she could do MUCH worse! (I don't know how, but I am sure she could!)
Skippy: Cold: Ever been to Michigan in the winter?
Pistoff: While I was working at Office Depot, I had more job offers than I have ever had before, so having a job wouldn't be much of a problem. Why did I stay there? I REALLY have no idea.
Money? Na... I made more before I worked for Depot. Besides... if I quit, I could always go back to delievering Newspapers. (Don't mess with collecting... don't see customers... nice evenings alone... great job in some aspects.) Hell, I was pulling in $300-$500 a week take home. From my taxable expenses deuctions, I was almost tax exempt.
Hair: I am SO glad I don't have my fathers hair. He had a VERY obvious receeding hair line when he was a High School sophomore. The way I see it, if I can get to 25 without much hair loss, I will be happy. I am 80% of the way there, and no really noticable hair loss, so i am happy (and knocking on wood)
SJ: <One more kids show perverted by the internet...;-p >
Which reminds me... saw some really BAD ones of "Tail Spin."
They were comic strips with REALLY out of character characters, bad drawing, etc.
Wilek: <Dot singing to Enzo>
When I saw that, I REALLY thought Enzo would be fantasizing about her later!
.5 million Square Feet of Steel and/or aluminum: If I told you, i would have to kill you.
<ACKNOWLEDGE\\SUBMIT>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 03:37:29 AM
IP: 216.90.45.182
Whoever mentioned RUSHMORE (was that Aaron?) > Yes! I love that movie! Heh, in fact, I've watched it twice in the last three days, as I have been laid up with a nasty sinus infection...yep, nothing to do but lie around struggling to breathe...so I've watched quite a few movies (and gotten a good chunk of my next fanfic written...) And not only is the movie great, but Max Fischer (Jason Swchartzman) is, like, the most adorable thing on two legs...'specially when he's wearing his beret. *swoon* Truly, though, anyone who hasn't seen RUSHMORE should give it a look. Bill Murray's in it too, and kicks major @$$. Great performances all around.
Llewwellyn Gaelfire - [llewwellyn@hotmail.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 03:37:16 AM
IP: ctrts1-4.mrs.umn.edu
Well, I just finished a nine hour project of drawing one of the greatest Silverbolt/Black Arachnia sequences in the series... "
Of course, doing this has led me to all sorts of oddball creativity demons involving gargs in Beast Wars scenarios...
Brooklyn: Demona, come back with me. Rejoin the clan.
Demona: Get a clue! I'm evil! I don't like the clan!.. I'll shoot you!
Brooklyn: My heart tells me you won't. (THWACK!)
You *SHOT* me!
or...
Brooklyn: My Latin's a little rusty, but it can't be good news.
Demona: This carrier virus will destroy all life on the planet!
Brooklyn: So this is it... We're all gonna die.
Or even...
"They took MacBeth and tried to clone his immortal soul... They ended up with X, and evil creature that needed to be destroyed..."
Then of course there's simply the scenario of one of the gargs running into Silverbolt. He *is* a gargoyle more or less after all. (Wings, personality, glowing eyes, loin cloth...)
Also finally managed to get my hands on a copy of Dragon Force. I'm only half an hour in and I'm totally impressed. Dang I wish I'd come across this game sooner...
Spacebabie- Ack, Barbie's dream house? Eek... Luckily, this room is multi dimensional or something...
Deuce- Well, the previews the WB has been showing for this weekend's Pokemon episode show a pair of space aliens... Of course, they're advertising TWO new episodes...
Say, does anyone here know why there were so many episodes of Laverne and Shirley that had no Shirley?
Mandolin- CR house cleaning staff? I seem to recall us having a janitor... I suppose he's gone to the same place as our resident shrink Dr. Scratchinsniff... Outta here.
Bugs Bunny- He ain't gay. After all, he's been attracted to female rabbits on more than one occassion. (At least 2 robot decoys, Lola Bunny, Hunny Bunney (Who was only in merchandising and never an actual cartoon) and there was one short where Bugs was actually married. He only cross dresses for humorous effect, and because its a slightly more effective desguise than anything else he could do.
(What I don't get is, if Cartoon Network can show Bugs crossdressing, why do they drop the Invid war portion of Robotech because of the crossdresser in the first 6 or so eps?)
And lastly, just because it's been mentioned... CLickie my name for a midi of "Ride of the Valkyries"...
**RP HERE**
"Egypt huh?" Musoke Punzara Noying, aka Black Tiger asks retorically. "I shall help you battle there."
"Uh, me too," Jim's clone chimes in."
"Cool," SJ nods.
Kari has to ask. "But would you mind telling me when my brother..." She gulped, still somewhat thrown off. "Had a son? WHo's older than me?"
"Well, the actual story covers about thirty years of time, but I can give you the condensed version on the way."
As Sevarius Junior sets the mode of transportation to head for Egypt, Black Tiger summarizes.
"It started what I guess would only be a couple weeks ago to you guys. My parents, Steve Irwin the crocadile hunter, and a sandshrew were in a helicopter headed on their way to see if Kari was okay. And then, the current being residing on the Dark Star 2, Connection Denied, tested a new weapon he was working on, a next dimension laser canon. All four occupants were sent to "the next dimension," where time moves a LOT faster, almost a year for every hour here.
Then, a bunch of stuff happened, various adventures and things, and they eventually found a way home. However, their was a condition. Only one person could leave through that method every twenty years. Steve Irwin went through first since he had a television show to star in. That left Jim and Ratina alone together.
After a lot of time, they fell in love, got married (the party for which Jim threw something like the world will never see again) and later, I was born. Flash forward to now. I wanted to come here and meet all my relatives, like my Aunt Kari."
Kari's eyes brightened. "Does this mean Jim is still alive?"
"I'm afraid not. You see..." Musoke Punzara Noying sighed as a tear fell, and emoption overcame him. "Excuse me. I think I need to finish this story later."
Robby
Saturday, September 25, 1999 01:54:14 AM
IP: spider-wl043.proxy.aol.com
**RP!**
[the strike team, about to be sent to the Phalanx base, has gathered in a shuttle bay aboard the Avatar Of Ganon, and is being looked over by Khesaat and the Administrator. Khesaat: "There seem to be quite a lot of raptors and scuttlers." Administrator: "The Phalanx are much like us; speed and maneuverability will be key when infiltrating their domain. All the troops are equipped with dart throwers filled with assimilation nanites, which will bring anything Phalanx under the control of the Borg. In addition, injecting them into humans will prevent their assimilation by the Phalanx." Khesaat: "In case they try to assimilate the Doctor. Good thinking."]
**END RP!**
Has anyone else had trouble getting into the CR today? <tosses DC into an overlarge ice crusher>
Jannie> <<Would you believe that we were instructed that if a boy started doing that, we were to allow him to go to the bathroom to "finish" ???...>> Er...what? <shudder>
T. J. Veil> <<One of the great things about Cartoon Network is that pretty much don't give a flying f*** about Standards and Practices.>> <L> Don't I know it. :) I've seen stuff on there that would make most network S&Ps, ABC and Disney's especially, go into fits. >:)
$Warpmind> Let's take out Hussein. >:) $
Fire Storm> <<The memory: Well, i have told the situation to LM's family, and I am trying to ease it to my family (Somthing I do NOT look forward to, BTW), and it really dosn't help. There is NO WAY I could post it in here.>> Ah. I quite understand, then. :) <<REBOOT: I remember they even poked fun at SnP in Enzo's birthday Episode.>> Probably; they did it in all kinds of other episodes. Funnily enough, the birthday ep roused the ire of ABC's BSP anyhow, because of the scene where Dot sang 'Happy Birthday' to Enzo (in the style of Marilyn Monroe, 'Happy Birthday Mr. President'). Said it...implied incest? Um, no. Hm...come to think of it, what DO you want with half a million square feet of steel?! o_O <<Ok, NOW I am curious... do you now read Christine's stuff?>> Not really, but only because I tend not to read fanfic in general (nothing against it, I simply don't have that kind of time, unfortunately). :)
Skippy> Politically Incorrect ep> LOL! I have to start watching this show. :)
Deuce> <<With all the attributes you mentioned, he'd have to be nuts NOT to be falling all over her. *whispers* I think he's gay. ;-)>> I wouldn't say that; a guy can be straight without being a hormonally overdriven wreck. ;) j/k
Christine> <<Jesse and James aren't siblings.>> Ah. I had no idea...I guess I should watch Pokemon more often. :) (Oh...I can't anymore...)
Aaron> <<Oh, and if you use both hands to conduct The Ride of the Valkyries while driving down the free way at 80 mph (steer with your knees) lots of people get out of your way.>> <muhahaha> Great way to get places in a hurry. Although I'd prefer the theme from The Omen for such purposes (if I thought I could drive well enough to get a license). >8)
Jewel> <<I had to give the psychopath my address because she had to overnight something "important" (she says) to me.>> Eek. Well, in case she does decide to drop by, have a cement mixer waiting behind her. They'll never find the body. >:)
Jenna> <<Here in TX the man who helped drag that guy to death has been sentanced to die himself>> Oh, *yes*. Let's drag the piece of garbage behind an airliner. >:)
David G> <<Somebody kill DC. I'm too busy.>> Sure thing. >:) <sodomizes DC with a chainsaw>
Coyote> <<from what I understand, it derives its origin from a Native American game that supposedly the natives played with their enemies' *heads* as the balls>> Hoo boy...hm, let's do that to those guys in Texas (dragging killers). >:) <<the company just did what amounts to a purge. As a result, a number of employees ... including one *manager* ... were canned.>> ACCK! I'm glad you were spared!
Doug> <<Kit isn't feeling well. <sighs> Hope she isn't getting sick.>> Ack! Me too. Just in case: <tosses Sli Sludge into an iron maiden>
Mandolin> <<You know, we've got a CR lawyer, I think we should add a CR housecleaning staff.>> I kinda thought that was the tree bouncer's job. :)
Pistoff> <<After spending years working jobs that required me to be polite, there was something amazingly gratifying about treating people like shit for a living>> <LOL> That, friend, could be the official manifesto of darn near everyone in retail and fast food. ;)
SJ> <<Stephen King has just bought the van from the guy that hit him! He actually bought the vehicle that nearly took his life! He says he plans to take a sledgehammer to it as soon as he's able.>> MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I love the way his mind works. >:) Almost exact (well, paraphrased) quote from him: "People think I'm this horrible person, because I write horror novels. But really, I have the heart of a child. In a jar on my desk." <hehehe>
Wilek Nereus - [<--Odd MP3 with a lot of background noise]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 01:10:33 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
***BEGIN RP***
Since the Cyber Smurf has been defeated and the Dark Star Two, everyone (especially Kari) has just received the startling revelation that Black Tiger is really the son of Jim Iza Noying!!!
"Jalapena," SJ muttered. He turned to Kari. "I think your family relations are about as screwy as mine are!"
Kari didn't smile at his joke. "This is not funny. This....this is so sudden....I...how..."
"I'd better explain," Black Tiger said with a sigh.
***PAUSE RP***
Comic book news: Well, Chris Claremont is finally returning to the X-Men next year! Hopefully he'll write some sense into things.
BTW, has anyone else in here checked out the new Bishop series? I have the first two issues now, and I can honestly say I like how things are going. But you just know they have to have greenlighted this series in the wake of the success of Mutant X. Mutant X stays a consistent top seller (thanks, I think, in part to the fact that it's continuity isn't shot to heck and back), so they decided to stick Bishop in an alternate timeline/reality/future. It's interesting. Bishop was always a character I thought deserved to have his own series, to let his character develop and grow, and I enjoy Fitzroy as the main villain. Fitzroy was always a guilty favorite of mine, so it's good to see him get promoted to major villain status. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Pistoff: Got your email. :) Hey, glad I could entertain you. And you know I'm with you bro. :)
Bit of Irony: Did you guys hear this? Stephen King has just bought the van from the guy that hit him! He actually bought the vehicle that nearly took his life! He says he plans to take a sledgehammer to it as soon as he's able. Now, is it just me, or does he not have a cool sense of humor?
Green Baron: As you probably read from the other posts, George C. Scott was an actor. One of the greatest of our time, many would say. He's probably best known for his role as the general Patton, in the movie of the same name. And the guy was humble about it too--he wouldn't go to the Oscars or accept his award (he won for best actor for Patton) because he felt that the award show was just a greedy competition designed to fuel the actors egos. He was a fine actor, and the entertainment industry is poorer without him.
Bugs Bunny: He's gay. No really. You haven't heard this? Seriously, I know several folks that would swear on a stack of holy books that Bugs is unequivocably homo. What do you think that carrot is symbolic for? I don't care though, what he does in the privacy of his rabbit hole is his business.
I did feel kind of uncomfortable when he started giving Elmer Fudd kisses though...
Naughty Pokemon: Geez, but I'm ready for the hentai thumbs to hit the net any day now. You know they'll be coming soon. One more kids show perverted by the internet...;-p
Deuce's Appearance: Hey, what have I told you people? Deuce is our own teenage heartthrob! ;) Stepped right off the set of Dawson's Creek, he did! Much better photo this year, too, BTW. No big goofy grin this time, although I'm sure the ladies like your smile ;)
Ah, I'm just bustin' your chops a little, just pokin' fun. :) Here's a guy we should really be jealous of, guys in the room, ol' Simon Crowley. Have him take *his* shirt off, watch the ladies swoon ;0)
Bob Larson: He hates Harry Potter? What's wrong with Harry Potter? I mean, heck, everybody and their grandmama is
buying those books. Personally, I don't think that kids will read these books and go on to embrace witchcraft or anything. He should spend his time actually doing something productive. I mean, you could do more good for kids by say.....I don't know, helping to end child abuse, working with impovirshed innner city youths, building rec centers, etc....than by trying to get Harry Potter banned. Sheesh.
***RESUME RP***
As Black Tiger prepared to explain his origins to Kari and the others, SJ received a message from Wilek on his personal
communicator. "Hello? Hey, what's up?"
"We got some heavy stuff going down," the blue gargoyle replied. "We've got some major Phalanx infestation happening down in Egypt right now, amongst the Pyramids and the Sphinx."
SJ frowned. "If the Phalanx are there--that means my dad is there too."
"Could be. Already they tried to launch some sort of missile weaponry. We believed it contained a virus capable of assimilating the entire population of Earth."
"You're talking in past tense there, pal."
"We were able to take them out, but they could have more. They could have anything up their sleeves, really."
"I hear you. We'd better clear things up here and get to Egypt, fast....otherwise, we may have one heck of a lot of angry Phalanx on our hands."
***END RP***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, September 25, 1999 12:07:59 AM
IP: 207-172-53-35.s35.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
"Golf balls are important because, without them, we could never measure hail."
Heh...wish I could remember who said that. ;)
Delphi: I got the email. Thanks, that was funny! Makes me glad that's never happened to me... *cringes just thinking about it* ;)
Jaden: Thanks. :) Sorry about your sleep problems. Do you know if anything can be done to help? I hope you find a way to get it straightened out. :)
Fire Storm: Yeah, those cursors are...intriguing, aren't they? *g* And none of the stuff that manager pulled was right! As for why you stayed there so long...well, a job is a job, and in some places they're hard to find. I know it took me a long time just to get hired at Pizza Hut...so once they hired me, I latched onto it and just rode everything out. I hate the job, but it could be a lot worse, and there's nothing else available anyway. It's easy to kinda get stuck in a rut like that. I hope you find something better soon. :) BTW, the quote at the end of this post is for you and me and everybody else stuck in lousy jobs.... ;)
Xanathar: Thanks. :) I'll post an addition to the Joyride as soon as I can get a few other things straightened out, here...
Aaron: Heh...maybe Otto was the one who created them. ;) I'm sure he has lots worse than that, too... *g*
Jenna: Yep, I got your email. Thanks. :) I replied a few minutes ago.... And about that guy in Texas--good! After what he did, I can't wait till they fry his ass!
Green Baron: Yikes! The guy in the gym and the pervert coach...sounds like somebody I might've delviered to... ;)
Blue Caeru: Hi! Been a while. <hell, I think I'm disillusioned with LIFE in general.> I know the feeling. ;) I hope things get better soon.
Warpmind: That computer helpline story...ROTFL!
Hair problems: I used to have one of these...I'm 25 and had the hairline of a 75-year-old. So I finally got it over with and started shaving it all. Have to keep shaving it every day, though, otherwise lint from my pillow sticks to my head...
Driving while conducting music: Well, I don't do *that*...but I've noticed that I do spend an astonishing amount of time steering with my knee while waving both middle fingers around.... ;)
Stephen: Hey, relax. I haven't even *been* here all day...and I haven't mentioned *it* since last night, and never will again. :) And good luck with the story. I mailed one of my own off a couple weeks ago, to Asimov's, and expect them to send it back within the next couple weeks.... *g* Best of luck to ya. It'd be nice to know another published author. :)
Coyote: Oh god, the purge at your workplace sounds scary. Sheesh. As if everything else that happens to you there isn't bad enough. The quote at the end of my post is for you, too. :)
Doug & Kit: Sorry Kit's not feeling well. Hope she gets better soon. :)
Skippy: I had the same problem with hair, and came up with the same solution. One thing I've noticed is that, when I wear a hat, my head overheats rapidly... O_o
"After spending years working jobs that required me to be polite, there was something amazingly gratifying about treating people like shit for a living." ---Ted Rall, on managing a skeevy motel in Vallejo, CA
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Friday, September 24, 1999 11:55:35 PM
IP: wire-24.koalas.com
**Mandi crawls out of the bomb shelter, grumbling about cliffhangers**
Glad to see it seems to be over. **looks around at the state of the CR, flamewar and fire-extinguisher damage and all** You know, we've got a CR lawyer, I think we should add a CR housecleaning staff.
Anyway... yes, I saw "Now and Again." Since I can't really see new movies now without wasting money, I'm resorting to TV reviews, so...
**SPOILERS FOR "NOW AND AGAIN"**
Okay... this was weird. But weird in a good way, mainly because the tone seemed to shift all over the map. I'll admit the pilot was slower than I expected, but it was all setup - how they got "permission" for the transfer, how Lisa has to deal with Michael's death, how Michael initially reacts to the deal he made, yada yada yada.
Anyway, the good stuff. The writers didn't gloss over parts I expected them to - the extent to which Michael was monitored, Lisa dealing with the aftermath, et cetera. Which, of course, is why this was a fairly slow episode, but that was for the sake of character development. All the hospital scenes were pretty funny, and it took me a few minutes to recover from the "checking the package" part. Dennis Haysbert stole every scene he was in. Every single damn scene. Where did they find this guy? Eric Close wasn't bad either, especially in the final and best scene of the episode.
The annoying things: the soundtrack, for one. All the pieces they picked were distracting as hell and didn't seem to fit. And then they had to end it on a "to be continued", then show us scenes from next week's, which involve Michael escaping, breaking into his office and finding Roger... and I've got to wait a week. Aaggghhhh!!!
Yep, you guessed it. I'm hooked. *sigh*
**END REVIEW**
Blue Caeru> Welcome back!
Ugh, that's it. I'm tired, and I need sleep.
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 24, 1999 11:37:26 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15
COYOTE> Where do you work? (What kind of company, I mean, not necessarily the name.) Just curious. In the mass media we keep reading about how just about every place is riding high, that they can't hire ENOUGH workers.
Pogo
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:59:48 PM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Hair> The fact that I am 25 and already suffering the effects of male pattern baldness (my hairline has been receding pretty steadily since I left school) I've gotten to the point I just keep it shaved extra close. I keep an even layer of peach-fuzz on my head most of the time :)
Yes it's cold, but that's what hats are for. Plus I have found that if I wear my wig for my Klingon costume on my head after I've recently shaved it down, the wig netting acts like velcro against my stubbly scalp. So there defintely is some kind of positive side to this :)
David G> finally got in touch with Ben, and we will be setting up a table out at Arlingcon
Skippy The Klingon
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:32:27 PM
IP: uv1-46.ultravision.net
**RP ALERT**
Shap and Shauna are circling the laughing demonic form of Pastor John, one with his sword in a fighting stance and the other aiming an arrow. "You really think you can hurt me, don't you?" the evil preacher chuckles at them. "Yeah," Shauna snaps, "and this time, you're not turning the other cheek." John shakes his head, then gives her a fiendish smile. "You know, killing me won't do you any good. I got a mistress back in Hell, remember? She'll send me back again and again to keep hunting you down. Eventually you'll both get old and gray, then I can kill you easy." "Don't bet on that, Pastor John!" shouts Shap. "We're gonna beat you here, we're gonna beat you every time we meet! That's what good guys like us do, kick corrupted demon-possessed ass!" "But can you beat a hundred demons?" John asks. "A thousand? I don't think so, and that's what you're going to be facing soon. My mistress Synatia has made an alliance with the balor lord Gothmenes, the ultroloth Deavik, the hordling duke and corruptor of humanity Oliver Cromwell, and Valerian, lich-queen of the githyanki. Through a Dark Jedi known as Jerec and a powerful evil wizard called Kharsus, we have joined forces with your friend Thailog. We supply him with arms, and at times with soldiers. It is thanks to us that he has most of the health and power he now enjoys." "Thanks for telling us your plan!" Shauna shouts. "Now you can die!" With that she fires the arrow and curses as it misses John's flank. Shap wastes no time and goes in swinging, barely dodging two fireballs the demon throws his way.
The display switches to the stairwell inside Area 51-A, where the Ravens have just escaped the numerous bombs Kincaid triggered to destroy them. They are now trying to open the locked door at the stairway's top. Elena uses a knock spell and disengages the mechanism. Jaden nods and kicks the door open. Instantly he and the others are forced to dive aside as a barrage of machine gun fire blasts onto the crowded landing. Not all are able to avoid it in the cramped space and thus two of the Avatar troopers are sliced down by its hardlined APEX rounds. Tom, Mist, and Stephanie are also wounded. "Alright!" Doug shouts, "who the hell is shooting at us?" "The guy whose soul crystal we smashed!" Kitainia replies firing a laser blast that Agent Tau avoids. "I will pay you back for that!" he shouts at them. The group is forced to scatter again as he fires another barrage.
**PAUSE RP**
Hi. Well, this day has been good in some ways and bad in others. On the good side, I saw a very good movie called American Beauty (review's further down), the weekend's beginning, and I feel great. The downside was that this day seemed to take forever to end (at least until my classes were over), and on top of that Kit isn't feeling well. <sighs> Hope she isn't getting sick. If any of you want to send her get-well notes, I'm sure she'd appreciate them. I'll make sure they're recieved. :)
Aaron: Thanks for the Punisher info. Same to you, SJ (said that already, I know). I'm pretty sure Benny is based on Microchip after the info I was given, provided Microchip resembles Marvin Hacker in some ways (he didn't sound or look weaselly to me). Story is progressing slowly, don't know how much longer it will take me. With the info you guys have provided, I'm one step closer to getting it done though. So thank you very much. :)
Zath: Glad to hear the computer problems at your college were fixed. Sorry you're feeling sick, hope you (and Kit) soon get better. If you get the chance, I hope you can post some of those drawings you mentioned on the web. I would very much like to see how good you are. :)
<ducks behind a nearby screen and changes into a World War 2 army uniform, then steps out and snaps off a salute> I will miss you, George C. Scott. Truly you were a great actor, even though you never let people give you accolades to acknowledge it (note- this is true, George C. Scott was offered an Oscar for several preformances and every time he turned it down). Forever will I remember your great preformances in Richard III, Dr. Strangelove, Patton, and all your other films. Enjoy heaven, if that's where you are now. Know that down here your work was very much enjoyed and appreciated by legions of fans. :)
**SPEAKING OF OSCARS, IT'S TIME FOR A REVIEW OF THE MOVIE THAT SHOULD WIN MOST OF THIS YEAR'S**
As I mentioned earlier, Kit and I saw American Beauty tonight. I can express my feelings on this film in five words: THANK GOD IT WAS MADE!!!! It was the best film I've seen all year. Definitely gets 10/10 stars, thumbs are pointed at heaven. Kevin Spacey turned in the top-notch preformance of his career, doing an even better job than he did in Usual Suspects. The other actors and actresses also did fantastic jobs, helped out by the film's wonderful direction and stupendous script. The story was easy to follow and even easier to appreciate. Emotions brimmed throughout the film, and were easily tangible to anyone who took the trouble to watch with a critical eye. It was also entertaining as well as excellent art, with many quotable and memorable lines, moments, visual effects, and scenes. Very uplifting too, I went into it excited, smiled as my enjoyment increased with every scene, gasped and sighed at the end, and then left the theater with a wonderful high in all senses. Despite her headache, Kit was feeling the same. For all these reasons, I am thanking God that American Beauty was made. I'm also glad it was made because unless the Oscar critics have their heads stuck up their asses and/or they get bought off, this film should and will definitely beat out that last piece of c&^p Stanley Kubrick tried to feed the public before he died (I speak of Eyes Wide Shut of course. Yes, I know some people in here liked it. Sorry if my opinion offends anyone. But I think that after seeing this film, even people who liked Eyes Wide Shut will agree it pales in comparison to this movie's success). I definitely recommend American Beauty to everyone in here, the film is wonderful. A true classic. Go see it now, and be amazed. :)
**REVIEW ENDS**
<sighs> Glad I was able to say that. Back to replies now. :)
SOROW: When you deserve a break, by all means take it! <grin> Hope you're feeling better now, if you're still sick I'll add you to my list of get-well prayers. <sighs, kills Sli Sludge>
Coyote: About what happened at your job today, look on the bright side. At least you didn't get fired. :) Good luck surviving the stress. As for Torrent, you did not tell me about him at the Gathering, nor show me any sketches. Hope you do write some stories with him someday, because a) I am now very curious about this character and b) I do not want eternal confinement to be Rain and Rosanna's fate. :) In the meantime, keep up the good work on WCC! (Hoping for the next chapter of that soon. :)
Stephen: Happy that the publisher is keeping your story, good luck with getting it in the magazine.
I guess that's all the comments I had to make tonight. See y'all later, everyone have a good rest. :) <waves>
**BACK TO RP**
"Kincaid," Tau says into his collar mike as he fires at the Ravens, "our prisoners are alive. Your bombs didn't get them. Fortunately I'm firing at them now." "Good work, Tau!" Kincaid shouts. "Keep it up!" The Ravens and their commandos begin to exchange fire with Tau as he exchanges clips and fires another barrage at them. Two more of the Avatar Commandos are killed by it, leaving only Surge and three others. The Ravens keep shooting and ducking behind rubble and walls for cover. Tau uses his powers to dodge and avoid their bullets and laser blasts. Lathrop and Elena try throwing lightning but this time Tau is ready and avoids it. "This guy is too damn fast!" Jammer shouts, trying to get a bead on Tau with his mag rifle and hitting nothing but air. Doug nods in agreement. "Orion, would an exorcism work now?" The cleric shakes his head. "No, since he has no other host to flee to. I can try a banishment spell, however. If it works, it will not only drive Tau's spirit out of his current body, but also permanently exile him to the dimensional vortex." "Do it!" Kit grins. Orion nods and goes into a meditative trance. Tau meanwhile continues firing and his next blast his Agent Ripwoski in the stomach and legs. She falls screaming, protesting that she's alright and thanking Boris as he drags her out of the line of fire. "Enough!" Tau shouts. "Let's end this now!" With that he throws a live grenade into the stairwell. Keith reacts quickly and kicks it back out. Tau kicks it back in, and this time Doug kicks it back out towards him. Orion's banishment spell is cast just as Tau draws his foot back to kick the grenade again and it goes off in his face. The evil alien spirit wails in agony as he is simultaneously hit by the blast and driven out of the body in which he was residing. Kincaid's secretary crumples with the shock, and Tau is sent screaming into a dimensional vortex. Jammer, Kit, and Elena quickly riddle the secretary's body with bullets and laser blasts, just in case she starts firing at them next. She falls to the floor, clearly bleeding to death. "Took care of that guy," Kit smiles. "Is everyone okay?" They all nod, Surge lamenting the deaths of four of his men. Orion applies healing spells to Mist and Tom (Stephanie's wounds have already faded thanks to her immortality), but since the banishment took a lot out of him does not have enough energy left for Janice. "I'm alright," the FBI agent assures them, though she is clearly heavily wounded. "Let's find your paladin friend, he can take care of this." Tom nods, then he and Boris bandage Janice's wounds with strips of clothing. They then support her as the team leaves the stairwell and starts walking down the base hallway toward the nearest exit. Watching them through a security camera, Kincaid snarls and clenches his fists.
**THIS BIT OF RP ENDS**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:18:26 PM
IP: pool-207-205-148-133.dlls.grid.net
**enters the room, seeing the conflicting room makeovers. Switches out the candles, then sits in the restored massage chair.**
**sigh** And I thought work was gonna get easier ... the company just did what amounts to a purge. As a result, a number of employees ... including one *manager* ... were canned. Combining that with one of the parts managers being laid up in the hospital ... oyyyyyyy ...
**massages temples briefly, then continues**
Wilek: You also have to consider the origins of lacrosse, though ... from what I understand, it derives its origin from a Native American game that supposedly the natives played with their enemies' *heads* as the balls. It started off as a fairly violent game to begin with. :)
Fire Storm: True. They're more concerned about folks getting caught stealing than the fact that their so-called "tech support" on the computer system need a plexiglas navel.
Deuce: Canadian game, eh? (no pun, really) So that means Michigan State only has *one* Canadian sport as varsity as opposed to the two it used to have ... three years ago their men's lacrosse team was knocked down to club status so that the school could meet Title IX, an extremely unpopular decision, as the sport that replaced it was, of all things ... varsity co-ed sculling (rowing). Meanwhile, MSU's hockey team remained unscathed. :)
**sigh** Not much else to talk about tonight ... may as well try to write some tonight, I'm behind by a long shot ...
**sits back in the massage chair, splitting his attention between his fixation and his computer, trying to write**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, September 24, 1999 09:10:24 PM
IP: modem14.i-is.com
That was odd. Somebody kill DC. I'm too busy.
Now, as I was trying to say...
Spacebabie> It could be worse, the CR could look like a warehouse, with boxes all over the place filled up with things you keep realizing you need. That's what my apartment looks like.
Still, the Barbie look has to go. Time for the second ever David G. RP description...
***David reaches into his bag and pulls out a cane carved with vinework, topped with a shard of quartz. He chants in ancient Lemurian while tracing complex diagrams into the air in glowing light from the tip of the cane.
There's a flash of light, accompanied by an odd sense of displacement. When the spacial reality is restored, the room looks like the Bronze from Buffy: the Vampire Slayer.
David spins his cane like a baton. When it stops spinning, it's been replaced by a pool stick.***
Is that better?
Fire Storm> Mardi Gras means Fat Tuesday. It's the day before Ash Wednsday. The idea is to party enough to get all your desire for fun out of your system before Lent.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:41:24 PM
IP: pppa3-fortworth11-1r235.saturn.bbn.com
**IRRELEVANT BIT OF RP!***
** Deuce walks in, seeing spacebabie's Barbie transformation, and screams. Whipping out a set of necromancer's bells especially spelled to destroy all things girly and cutesy, he gives them a loud, loud ring. The combined effect, oddly, sounds like "Bullet With Butterfly Wings". Still, it works, and the CR is returned to normal. **
**END RP!**
jenna> ["Here in TX the man who helped drag that guy to death has been sentanced to die himself..."] Yeah, and I've got some ideas as to how to deal with that f---er....
Green Baron re: hair> Yeah, but yours looks GOOD. If I spike it, I look like a punk (which I'm not). If I don't, I look gay (which I'm not). If I don't spike it, but wear a hat when it's still wet, I look like a British pop star (which I'm not). Of all these, I like the last one best. o_O ["::Sodomizes DC with a rusty iron rod::"] AUGH!
Aaron> ["Has anybody seen Rushmore? It's quite good..."] Eh, I didn't like it much. A very unique movie, but not to my tastes.
Robby> ["And besides, just yesterday James made a comment about, 'Next time we steal men's costumes!'..."] Ah, I was just going to ask you how far along you were in Pokémon season 2. Trust me, next week you will be VERY surprised. Mewtwo? No. Close.
Fire Storm> ["Pokemon or incest?"] Likely Pokémon.... *coughDemonaAndJerichocough* ["...what DOES Mardi Gras stand for?"] "Fat Tuesday". Don't ask me why.
And I'm off. I should be around later tonight; check AOL and ICQ for me.
** Deuce leaves **
Deuce - [fallglimmersparkleandfade@curtain.cjb.net]
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:36:45 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:31:56 PM
IP: pppa17-fortworth12-2r235.saturn.bbn.com
::HUGS::back at GB
Starts Sounding like Heather with camera infront of her face Donhavue
DBZ Oh...my gosh...Frieza...he changed...voice...different...Kurillin.....skewer...ouch....that...was ...cold man...very cold.
Decides to clean up the room with all the scorch marks recently
begins to spin
Hocuspokusalakazqamabracadabrashazampokemonuhwahtelsemoonhealingescalation!
as the magic dust settles looks in to the room and gasps
The Horror the horror. it was supposed to be beautiful not this montrosity.
I'm sorry everyone.THE ROOM NOW RESEMBLE BARBIE'S DREAM HOUSE
Owen/Puck is right magic isn something to be messed with sheesh
JOYRIDERS please Joyride Michelle from the Jimmy Bryant car adds...SHE is so annoying and I guess you woyuldent know what i'm talking about unless you lived down here.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:25:23 PM
IP: ts003d39.orl-fl.concentric.net
STEPHEN> Good luck getting published! What is TaleBones' circulation, and where is it sold?
Pogo
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:01:17 PM
IP: fwnt.dw.dorseylaw.com
Aris Katsaris: I stand corrected. It HAS been awhile since I saw that episode of B5.
Deuce: <Sigh> Thanks anyway.
jenna: Don't worry. I have had a 7 month delay between my fics. 2 months isn't so bad.
Christine: <But, I hasten to assure you all, that's _not_ someplace I plan to exercise my talents ::shudder:: >
Pokemon or incest?
Green Baron: <Mardi Gras>
<FS Slaps his head> DUH! How could I forget about Mardi Gras?
BTW... what DOES Mardi Gras stand for?
Night Walker: I was being sarcastic. I totally agree that Spears is ripping Bjork off.
Jewel: < a 17-year-old black girl to be barelling down the highway at top speed in a big green minivan blasting *opera*>
Now THAT must have been quite a sight!
<PRAISE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, September 24, 1999 07:53:20 PM
IP: t2-34.visitus.net
Pogo- **Arcs an eyebrow** I was not questioning your sincerity. As CR Co-Administrator I try my best to stay impartial in matters such as this. (Although I will admit at some point I failed when dealing with Paul Allan Nathans...) I merely noted that there was a two hour time lapse between posts, and being room co-administrator I'm worried there may be something faulty with the loading feature, as I myself have had some problems loading lately. I said the subject was dropped, and I meant it. You are reading too much into things now.
Now then, Pogo, TJ Veil, Warpmind, Aris, Deuce, Nightwalker, and anyone I may have missed...
Last night I asked that this matter be dropped immediatley, totally, and completley. This has not bee the case so far, so I ask again. DROP the matter from your minds entirely. Do not think about it, do not mention it, do not even note that I am starting to get a bit upset about being ignored about this. Pistoff leaves his e-mail address, if you have to console him about the scanario, do so privatley. Now please, don't anyone bring this matter up again, or I shall start to become angry at being ignored again.
**Goes into a bad 70's Bruce Banner impression** You wouldn't like me angry...
Robby
Friday, September 24, 1999 07:44:47 PM
IP: spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com
Greetings all...
Pogo/Pistoff - That's it! This is a Parental-Strength Order (and that's dang powerful!): The both of you are FORBIDDEN to speak about said subject for the rest of your lives, or ELSE! Got it!? Get it?!? GOOD!
Ahem! Now...
GREAT NEWS! - I just got a confirmation-of-receipt postcard today that I had included with my latest story submission to "Talebones" magazine. It said that they received my story on 9/13... which, being this is the 24th, means they've had my story for over a week! A good sign, since MZB Fantasy mag returned my first story within a week...
Say prayers and wish me the best, folks! :)
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 07:42:53 PM
IP: m95.ieway.com
Robby> I thought you said you wanted to leave it alone now. Having already prostrated myself twice, and explained how it was sincere, I now get further questioning of my sincerity about a tertiary post that went up while I was putting together a rather long response. Hmm yourself.
Pogo
Friday, September 24, 1999 07:02:56 PM
IP: fwnt.dw.dorseylaw.com
Aaron: "Oh, and if you use both hands to conduct The Ride of the Valkyries while driving down the freeway at 80 mph (steer with your knees) lots of people get out of your way." <g> The "Dies Irae" from Verdi's or Mozart's Requiem works, too. And isn't it *fun*, all the looks you get when you do that? I used to love when I lived in Georgia and drove Mommy Dearest's big green minivan--people were not expecting a 17-year-old black girl to be barelling down the highway at top speed in a big green minivan blasting *opera*. It was *great*.
Deuce: Man, I hear ya about the hair. I'd shave my head except I know I have a funny-shaped head. My hair has a major identity crisis--it can't decide to act like Black hair or White hair, and so it gets contrary when I treat it like either. That was why I cut all but an inch or so off.
Mommy Dearest: I had to give the psychopath my address because she had to overnight something "important" (she says) to me. Arg.
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alunmae.brynmawr.edu]
Friday, September 24, 1999 06:23:02 PM
IP: 207-172-73-38.s38.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
Taking a couple minutes of break time, then its back to drawing Beast Wars and writing Timedancer... I officially have no life anymore.
Hmm, I posted at 11:52, and Pogo posted at 2:41 without seeing my post. Hmm.
Wilek- Heh heh. You ain't seen nothin' yet. Dragonball Z is about to get really gruesome... Heh heh. What totally fascinates me though is this... The video reeases have "cut" and "uncut" releases, presumably so the cut versiobns can be shown on television. Yet Cartoon Network is using the uncut ones... (As evidenced by today's episode where Kullilin/Krillin was... Well... Hurt...)
Bugs Bunny in drag... Hmm, I need to get this scanner working on scan in the picture I did a ways back of Lola discovering this little fact about Bugs...
T.J. Veil- Well, Cartoon Network does still give some consideration to S&P. They cut the Road Rovers "Sonovavitch" song, and a the word "Bedroom" has been changed to "Basement" in a certain Johnny Bravo episode... (The Scooby Doo one. The first two times the episode aired, Fred and Daphne mentioned checking out the bedroom. SInce then, the word has been changed to "basement", and so it makes no sense when Daphne looks upwards. Ah well...) and in Dragonball a lot of the dialouge is being atrociously censored and dumbed down, as is the music... I don't recall the characters saying "darn" quite so much in the fandubs I saw... But then again, both of those things are really Funimation's fault and not Cartoon Network's...
**Robby breaks out into song for no apparent reason.** C is for Cookie, and thats good enough for me... Er... Scuse me.
Jessie and James from Pokemon- Um, why does James have to liek Jesse? Near as I can tell she's always mean and cruel to him. Personality can easily dispel any physical attraction, and thats certainley what Jessie does... And she cross dresses just as much as James does. Its part of the humor. And besides, just yesterday James made a comment about, "Next time we steal men's costumes!" indicating he doesn't care all that much for the female outfits he keeps getting stuck in...
Hair problems- I have no such thing. I comb it back in the morning, and within muinutes it falls into a Trunks-like haircut, minus the white color.
Night walker- ANy powers you want in the RP are fine. We've got telepaths and magic users and such already, and heck, Jim's son Musoke, the Black Tiger, seems to know stuff from Dragonball. You don't have to be weak, you just shouldn't be ridiculously strong so that all the fun is taken out of it. And on the RP note...
**BRIEF RP HERE**
Somewhere, far away from the Dark Star two, a figure frowns. "So, my cyber-smurf has been destroyed. Pity. He was so good at what he did for such a weak warrior. Ah well..."
Robby
Friday, September 24, 1999 06:12:39 PM
IP: spider-wj022.proxy.aol.com
Sorry I wasn't here yesterday , actually I was here I just didn't post . Few short comments.
Robby-WHAT < I CAN'T BELIEVE I COMPLETLY MISSED THAT!! Oh well , I'll have to write around it , man do I feel stupid. And don't worry , I won't make them overly powerful , but can I still use magic or [pyro, tele]kenisis? They'll be weak.
everyone-Yuo guys , robby said not to post about this ANYMORE . Lets leave it alone now.
GREENBARON-<<She's such a cute demon>>LOL, you actually took a look ? wow , oh and did you get my e-mails? I sent a few yesterday.And your right , she is cute . She still must be destroyed you know.
Firestorm-Are you sure you went to the right site? The bottom covers looked almost the same and the top ones were exactly the same exept they were by two different people.
Well that about does it. bye for now.
**sighs, a tear falling from his left eye.**
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Friday, September 24, 1999 04:47:47 PM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net
Hello, everyone. I am in possession of a key to the school computer room. Life is grand.
Blue Caeru: Why are you apologizing for having a not-gargoyles-related post? If you are going to apologize for something, don't apologize for something everyone else is guilty of, too.
GB: So you suggest Saddam? I've noted that behind my ear (the miracle of mirrors... ah). By the way, the name is Warpmind, not warmind.
And that typo reminded me of a classic computer helpline story (and, as far as I know, it's a true story): A man called in a problem with his printer. It soon became evident that he was quite inept in the computer field. However, the helpline employee was able to guide the man through the process of re-initializing the printer. Then for the test: "And now, sir, press Control and P on your keyboard." "What? I will do no such thing!"
Ah, those simple misunderstandings... make for great jokes, no?
Well, gotta sign off, I've got nothing further to say at the moment, except: Night Flame, I sent you mail, please respond if you received it!
Later, oh crew of nobility (with a few exceptions).
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, September 24, 1999 03:29:05 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
Hi everyone. Um, looks like I've missed a lot. Anyway, I was just skimming and I encountered a couple of posts about know-it-all college professors/intellectuals. Maybe I'm lucky (so far) or have never interacted with my instructors enough, but that hasn't really been a problem for me. The only instructor I ever had a problem with was a rather jock-ish biology lab teaching assitant with an attitude. Everyone else has been nice enough and pretty much willing to listen a little, rather than disregarding/insulting anyone whose opinion differs from theirs. But I admit I am a bit disillusioned with academia in general... hell, I think I'm disillusioned with LIFE in general.
Well, I'm afraid I don't really have anything Gargoyles-related to say now, except that I'm wondering if Christine is working on another story (my apologies if this has already been covered). Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well. Bye!
Blue Caeru
Friday, September 24, 1999 03:06:46 PM
IP: smathersl1.uflib.ufl.edu
Has anybody seen Rushmore? It's quite good, and the main character looks just like Green Baron, especially after he puts on his green suit.
Oh, and if you use both hands to conduct The Ride of the Valkyries while driving down the free way at 80 mph (steer with your knees) lots of people get out of your way.
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:57:24 PM
IP: ppp-70.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
D'oh!!! Janine> here's my pic.
Green Baron
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:47:41 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102
Not done just yet. ::Sodomizes DC with a rusty iron rod::
Zath and Pistoff> I knew a guy who got busted doing it in the gym bathroom by the coach known for being a pervert. That guy was also a major trouble maker, ever since he caused people trouble at summer events for younger students.
Gunjack><<Maybe so, but wait a few years, and you'll see some massive changes in the division of fighting assets...>>
Time will tell ultimately. I have no idea, personally.
Are you planning to go to Harding once you finish school? I knew a friend who went to their High School, which was interesting since he was an even mroe traditioanl Catholci than I was, and had to defend his views a lot :)
Ironwolf> That has always been my view, plus if Priests ahd families, they'd have to be paid mroe than 6,000 or so a year. My motehr also force fed me many progressive views like married clergy and others, which probably turned me into an ultraconservative in High School and the beginning of College, where I evolved into a Libertarian.
Janine> Where will you be in Louisiana. If in New Orleans, make a stop by Loyola University. I have a link to my pic so you could find me, plus you can use it to remember me at G99 :)
Now, I'm off to get ready for tonight. My Fraternity is having a pledge pinning. Good bye for now :)
Green Baron
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:36:54 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102
RP WARNING!!!
**Golf course near resevior
OJ Simpson has been searhing Golf courses across the country fo rteh real killers of the World Devestator. He is also improving his golf score and living niceley on Attila's American Express (until the bill comes in). He suddenly sees some white robed people with crazy looks and a pitcher of Kool Aid. He detects trouble so he decides to intervene. As he runs, people are shouting, "Go, OJ!"
The cultists stop and see OJ coming towards them. He takes out his machete and slices one cultist in half. The other three try to fight back, but to no avail. OJ puts on his gloves (which don't fit) and strangles another cultist. The next victim takes a machine gun and riddles OJ with bullets, while teh fourth cuts off hsi head, but in seconds OJ's body has healed itself showing no signs of injury. The two cultists shirek in terror and drink the Kool Aid, sending them back to the Second Level.
OJ is now confused and he decides to find out what's going on and why a dead cult has returned to Earth.
Dark Star II
The smurf has been vanquished and Tuxedo Bob Dole and Strom-Ra decide to leave. "Well, Bob Dole thanks you, but now I need to take Strom-ra back to his crypt in the Senate Building and I must battle another enemy alone. It seems a darth Clinton has challenged me. He even used my old nickname of ObiOne Bob. I hope the outcome is better than the movie."**
END RP for now
Jenna> Either Byrd is with God or reading an old magazine in Purgatory :) I just hope the other two punks get the same sentence. I support Capital Punishment in most cases, and this is one I definitely support it in. I also hope those three see how evil their actions were, not to change their sentence, but only because I do not wish the worst Judgemnet upon anyone.
Deuce> Hair problems? I have those in summer, because it's so thick. I now some young ladies who like my thick hair :)I oculd never shave it. I like it short and parted at the left. Its how my family has combed their hair for the last seven generations, except my great grandfather in the 1890s :)
Skippy> My scouts would have been ready for Bob, if he did rear his face :)
I don't know exactly who George C. Scott is, but he must be someone big. Their tragedies are a great loss.
warmind> I don't know if I'd go as far as you do, but I basically agree with you :)
$Attila wants to go after Clinton, though I have soemone who will fight Darth Clinton, so I guess we take on Hussein$
Firestorm> Well, Mardi Gras is meant to be the last big blow out party beofre Lent starts. Basically, it is very quiet on Ash Wednesday morning from eevryone sleeping in and rather amusing to see the reactions of some folks receiving their ashes when they are hungover :)
SJ> Of course I accept brother. You're too good a friend to let a littel squabble stand in the way ::hugs::
Jewel> I think I heard about Explaining Hitler. It probably sounds very different form another book called The Ghosts the Walked, which was about the environment in Munich that led to the NAZIs.
As for your concerns, it's understandable ::hugs::
Spacebabie> I'm gald you accept my apology. ::hugs::
::Grabs, SJ, Jewel, and Spacebabie into group hug::
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:17:55 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102
Pokemon > Jesse and James aren't siblings. There's an ep in which he's called home to get his inheritance but it turns out to be a trick from his parents, who want him to marry his arranged bride (Jezebel, who is identical to Jesse).
Which, having seen it twice, was why I was so puzzled when I got a plea for naughty Pokemon stories "except no incest with Jesse/James".
But, I hasten to assure you all, that's _not_ someplace I plan to exercise my talents ::shudder::
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, September 24, 1999 12:14:00 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
Aaron-- yeah, I remeber-- :P
jenna
Friday, September 24, 1999 11:03:21 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Hi, Jenna.
Long delays, eh? Remember when I said I was trying to get my fic done before the Gathering?
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:53:19 AM
IP: ppp-36.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Pist off- I sent you an em. Let me know when you get it :)
Nothing really going on here-- I'm two months behind on both my fanfic and another fic I'll be putting on my site by Shauntell-- I feel bad that it's been a delay of two months or so, but what else can I do-- real life....Any other fic writers here have a real long delay like that?
Here in TX the man who helped drag that guy to death has been sentanced to die himself-- can't say I feel too bad for him, given what he did. The man who was dragged was decapitated during the dragging. I knew it was bad, but I until I learned that, I had no idea it was that bad. I feel sorry for that guy (who died) I cannot imagine knowing your going to die like that, he must have been terrified, I know I would have been. I really hope he is with God now.
But let me also say, given the current feelings in the room, I don't talk about the Jasper dragging to start a flame war of any kind...
On the topic of gargs-- the station 8 cr is having some awesome discussions right now. You all go take a lookie. I liked hearing Weismen talk about how he wrote Gargs for himself first, and was the only profession experience he had done like this. He also has a new comic out, that someone mentioned as well.
I have contacted the Gathering committee, but havent heard anything regarding weather it would be okay to have musical pieces for the gargs at the Gathering. If anyone of the committee sees this, please contact me-- this is what I have slated to do so far--
1 waltz for Goliath and Elisa for Shauntell
Sax solo for Coyote for Goliath and Elisa-
One flute solo for Lexatello about Angela
Cello piece for Thailog (probally will have that on a recording-- a tape)
And Requiem also for the syntezier that I hope to have on tape--
I hope I get all of these done--I'm going to give it my best.
All for now---
jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:32:34 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Wilek>Oh no! Ppl's computers are failing, ppl (other than Mr. Disconnect) are getting sick, hurt, shot, de-fingered, a lot more than usual.<shudder> What's going on?! :(>> I think it's the millennium.
Pistoff> Those're some twisted cursors. Wonder if Otto's got something like that.
Doug> SJ already covered some of this, but...
Was Benny, perchance, a weaselly guy who sounded like Kevin J. O'Conner?
Anyway, "Benny" could be based on Microchip, Castle's hacker partner, or he could be based on another longtime Castle associate, a low-grade wiseguy named Mickey Fondozzi, whom Castle uses as an informant. Both Micro and Mickey are dead, I think, but since that was all part of the whole Angel-Punisher thing, I dunno if you want to go there or not.
As for Castle's family, his wife's name was Maria. I never could discover the kids' names, and in fact, do not remember them ever being called by name.
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:26:05 AM
IP: ppp-36.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
I hate my hair. I'd shave my head if it weren't so cold outside.
Spike> ["Never, never, never let your temper do your typing. "] Had you only told me that a few months earlier.... We should post that right under the masthead here.
SJ> ["Or maybe he doesn't like Jesse."] My thoughts exactly. With all the attributes you mentioned, he'd have to be nuts NOT to be falling all over her. *whispers* I think he's gay. ;-)
David G.> ['If One More Person Gets His/Her Feelings Hurt and Threatens To Leave the Comment Room...I'M LEAVING THE COMMENT ROOM."] *L* Very, very good point.
Coyote> Liked your rant. ["There is actually a clause in the professional lacrosse rule book which covers player *death.*"] That's how you know it's a Canadian game, eh? Lacrosse is a very, very violent sport... I was a roadie for my jr. high team. :-)
Wilek> ["Was it you who, a long time ago in a CR far, far away, requested Riven MP3s?"] Yes. I'll get you the list tomorrow.
Fire Storm> ["WHICH SHOW? Got it on tape?"] Similar to my Voyager bloopers... a long, long time ago, VERY late at night, damaged my sense of reality.... Sorry.
** Deuce reads a couple more posts **
*sigh* WILL EVERYONE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS WEEK FLAMEWAR? How clear to Robby and I have to be? THIS IS OVER. STOP. You've got Pissy's email. Use it.
** Deuce leaves **
Deuce - [badhairweek@curtain.cjb.net]
X, Y, Z
Friday, September 24, 1999 10:23:04 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Looks like Bob didn't take the bait, oh well... I realized he probably wouldn't because he was in L.A. Wednesday taping an episode of Politically Incorrect. I saw the transcript of the ep at ABC's websitw and it seems like Bob was being loonier than normal on the show. My name link will lead to Bobbo's rantings on why the Harry Potter books are evil...
I gotta take some blame for helping prolong this whole religous debate with all these Bob larson rants. So I promise this will be my last comment online about him.
James Randi> Yeah, I know about that dude, he helped Johnny Carson pull a fast one on the "psychic" Uri Gellar when he came on the Tonight Show. He was also on the Tonight Show once doing a demonstration of "psychic healing" which supposedly involves the healer sticking his hands into the patient's body without any incisions or anastesia and removing various unfreindly bits. It's all done with cow blood and chicken gizzards and looks disgusting to watch, makes a great party trick :)
Skipppy The Klingon
Friday, September 24, 1999 08:34:41 AM
IP: uv1-41.ultravision.net
Hi all!!
Pistoff:I'm glad to hear your not leaving,the Joyride wouldn't be the same without ya!:)
Theresa:I hope you don't decide to leave the CR after this silly incident(I hate seeing family argue:()
*Shares a moment of silence for George C. Scott...*
Spacebabie:Glad you liked it..yeah Bert and Ernie do deserve one but my fave has always been Cookie Monster>>I agree,my sister and I used love the Cookie Monster when we were little,I was saddened to hear that they had gotten rid of him:( (or was that just a rumor?)
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Friday, September 24, 1999 07:50:08 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
Firestorm> Actually Londo and all Centauri have six "tentacles" that act as genitalia as mentioned in "Sic Transit Vir" and seen in the statuette of a Centauri hermaphrodite god in "Parliament of Dreams" and "Quality of Mercy... I don't think the word 'seven' has ever been mentioned in relation to it...
S8 room> There have been a number of interesting topics including how Santa Claus would have fitted in the gargoyles universe :), the question of afterlife and evolution (I've replied to Sevarius Jr's post, incase he hasn't noticed it), a disrespectful comment from Bruce Timm (of the Batman series) against Gargoyles and people's reaction towards it, a visit by Greg and his commentary on it as well...
Come on visit!
Flamewar> Won't get into it (haven't even read most of it), except to say that as far as I know Pogo last posted in the S8 room around June (though I may be wrong in this). He's hardly a regular there as some people here presented him to be.
Finally, for those who never visit Ask Greg> At the end of the month the last contest of Ask Greg (the one which will definitely have a winner will expire). I remind all that it concerns the codeword "Alone" which Demona had, and which participants must explain in two paragraphs: its conscious and unconscious meaning. (Read the rules in Ask Greg, in the Contests archive, click name to go directly there)
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Friday, September 24, 1999 06:27:02 AM
IP: athe530-g036.otenet.gr
**Warpmind walks into the CR with Toku Kaioto's rant in hand. He suddenly looks up, glancing around.**
Hi, guys.
Toku Kaioto: Just read your rant. It was... beautiful, something one should, but cannot possibly expect in todays society. Mind telling me what you're smoking, and why you're not sharing? ;) If just your idea would catch on... I believe there was a saying in Callahan's (you know, the bar described by Spider Robinson) or one of those places: "I'm not saying you're not entitled to be opinionated, or prejudistic. But please, have the decency not to try and spread the virus." You, however, may spread such humanistic propaganda as your rant all you like.
Pistoff: Hey, buddy, I'm on your side in this battle. Don't come here claiming that everybody sides with Pogo here, 'cause I sure don't, and I believe a lot of the regulars here are with you as well. Just remember: Pride, without honor, is shallow, worthless and futile. But when the two are combined, the person in question never starts a fight, but always wins, no matter the direct physical outcome. Few people manage this ideal, but we all should try. And hey, if Pogo pulls that insult-apologize-look-like-the-good-guy-stunt again, well, I'll try to be there to hold him down for you, ok? See? Just calm down, now. We all have our pride, it's the ability to swallow it that makes us nobler.
Spacebabie: That crystal ball... did you get any pictures? 'Cause I'd sure as smithereens like to see it.
Christine: Judging a Demona's Mate Battle? Uh-oh... I envision the dome scene from Cats and Dogs...
**JOYRIDE**
The Joyriders carefully dispose of any intestinal stains on their clothing before climbing back into Cthulhu.
"So, who's next?"
Warpmind leans forward, handing an untitled CD to Jack.
"Can you play this, random track?"
Jack grins. "Sure, no prob."
After a few minutes, the tones of "Let's Bomb Iraq" float out of the car's speakers. Warpmind grins in recognition.
"Okay, then, I was hoping for a suggestion from the disc. So, Clinton or Saddam?"
**TO BE CONTINUED**
Should have had a link to the song, but the file had been removed from its site... sorry. Go search for it, it's a Bill Clinton parody, and quite fun.
Well, gotta go. See ya later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, September 24, 1999 04:07:32 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
Ahh... so THATS what I get for having a life outside of the CR. I miss everything!
Scott Iskow: Why do cartoons become formulaic? Because good writers cost money. More money=less profit. SO they hire the cheaper writers that just do the basics.
SJ: Monkey and AIDS: How did you know that was the EXACT line that was going through my head when I typed that?
Deuce: Your picture: Hell, MOST of my highschool pictures sucked. Yours was MUCH better than ANY of mine.
Night Walker: What makes you think that Bratt-any is trying to rip of Bjork? I can't see ANY simularity!
(Shouldn't she get into trouble for that?)
AGAIN, Did Brittany get breast implants? From "Nail me baby one more time" to any of her newer crap, her breast size increased visably, I'd say by a few cup sizes.
BTW... you really didn't leave a link to the pic, so I am linking it here.
Theresa: Brittney lookalike crossdresser: Yeah, I was ROFL'ing when I heard that one!
Wilek: The memory: Well, i have told the situation to LM's family, and I am trying to ease it to my family (Somthing I do NOT look forward to, BTW), and it really dosn't help. There is NO WAY I could post it in here. If I did tell it, it would be on my website in a few parts.
Let me just say one thing, though: There is WAY more to this story than one may think.
EVERYONE: Thanks for the support. With any luck, my next job will be a IT job. (READ: Tech support//consultant)
Televangelists: You know... besides the fact that I have strong morals, I could actually see myself being one.
"HALEULAH, Send me checks!"
Pistoff//everyone: I have no idea why I stayed there that long. I also don't know WHY I put up with the b#$^&. Truth be told, the job would have been VERY tolerable if the problems with the managers and her didn't coinside.
Do you think it is right for a manager to encourage a co-worker to cheat on his fiance with another co-worker (Repeatedly, and to the point of being harassment. Remember me mentioning the harassment? This is one of the cases. This type of case lasted for 18 months.) Even after the manager knew that the first co-worker wanted to remain faithful AND the manager met the fiance and found her 'cute,' and 'nice'? (I SO wish I was exagurating this mess...)
Pistoff: Oh, I could just see you there...
NOT a plesant site!
(I KNOW you would have REALLY yelled at the managers... you probally would have been arrested!)
Coyote: Crashed the Cleveland stores? Do I WANT to know?
The bad thing is that laws today make it nearly impossible to fire someone for being incompotent at their job. Trust me.
Spike: MOO!
Green Baron: <on a side note about Easter and Christmas, in New Orleans youd definitely know when Lent starts :) >
Could you clarify, please? I am sure that would make interesting reading!
Madame Destine: Were you at the Gathering 1999?
Ironwolf: WGN dropped all the WB shows? When did this happen? That was my only REAL access to WB stuff!
(I am going to have to confirm this. We saw Buffy on WGN this week.)(I have Dish Network)
TJ: You can get UPN on satelite dish?
REBOOT: I remember they even poked fun at SnP in Enzo's birthday Episode.
B5: Londo: 7 sets of genitalia: I remember him saying that once. Where are all 7 sets? How much is in a set? Are they all functioning? Are they all 'male'? I would REALLY like to know, just out of pure curiousity.
Warpmind de InzanE: Define. What kind? E-MAIL me. (BTW... I could do one. but ONLY novelty.)
Aaron: Personally, I think what you said was very well written.
<FS takes the apple from behind his back and acts like he would throw it before shining it on his shirt then taking a big bite from it.>
Mmmm... Granny Smith...
<No, wait. That won't work. If Crzy's judging, Pogo wins just by taking his shirt off. Crud.>
I second that
Deuce: Stewart singing rhapsody: Being a Queen fan, I have to ask this: WHICH SHOW? Got it on tape?
Gunjack: .5 million square feet of steel.: No, actually, no one has asked me what I want with that much steel. I am TRULY surprised that you are the first to ask.
David G: <If One More Person Gets His/Her Feelings Hurt and Threatens To Leave the Comment Room...I'M LEAVING THE COMMENT ROOM.>
'ere, 'ere.
Pistoff: Interesting Cursors.
CURSORS! ALUMINUM FOILED AGAIN!
<Not sorry. just HAD to. Temptation was WAY too strong!>
Wilek: <That was before the exorcism>
Ok, NOW I am curious... do you now read Christine's stuff?
<ACKNOWLEDGE\\SUBMIT>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, September 24, 1999 04:00:01 AM
IP: 216.90.45.191
TJ VEIL> I did read Robby's post, but not until after my own went up. Was typing away, probably, when his post first went up.
Pogo
Friday, September 24, 1999 02:59:43 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
TV Evangelists -- I think it might be a good idea to let this thread drop. I'm not going to say much else about this, but we're starting to border on religious discussions again, and when we got into that last year, the arguements and such lasted for about two weeks before it finally stopped, at which time there were some very angry people. I think it might be for the best to not risk going there again.
Coyote -- Actually, WGN is also dropping the evening shows, just not until Oct. 7. So I'll get to see the season premiere of Buffy, but no episodes after that.
Wilek -- The 'new' Dragonball Z episodes that have been airing on the Cartoon Network have the exact same animation as the Japenese originals. These were not produced for network TV, but are dubbs of the Japanese episdoes. One of the great things about Cartoon Network is that pretty much don't give a flying f*** about Standards and Practices. They figure if Japanese kids can handle it, so can Americans. Unfortunately for me, however, our cable provider switches between Cartoon Network and some old movie chanel at 4:30 (CST) every afternoon and again in the morning, so I won't be able to watch Ronin Warriors. Argh.
Pogo -- Please read Robby's post below.
Thought for the day
"Don't knock crazy. The Romans were crazy, and they got all the girls."
T. J. Veil - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Ames, IA
Friday, September 24, 1999 02:54:12 AM
IP: welch-roberts-187-24.res.iastate.edu
Just a few comments ... and not gonna get into addressing the personal attacks.
First, I really can understand harboring doubts about an apology's sincerity when it comes right on the heels of a return volley of nastiness. That is just healthy cynicism. Well ... all I can say is that I posted that last one (volley), and then I just looked at what I had posted and felt sickened about it .... rotten. So, about ten minutes of this feeling of guilt building up, I just said to myself, This is stupid ... Even if I DON'T have to worry about physical harm from this guy (and I don't really feel that I DON'T -- so, to the person who asked if I'm afraid, the answer is YES, and I'm acting accordingly from here on out), I'm just making myself OTHER enemies -- and feeling pretty sad about my own behavior to boot. AND so, I typed up something quickly that tried to sum all of that up, to try to make things right. So, while I understand those questioning (or worse) my apology's sincerity, I say with respect that this time you're wrong. Trust me, I don't apologize often! I've never done it insincerely.
Second, I think someone not directly involved in the squabble said I had "threatened" P. Is that based on the comment about logging posts for forwarding to the ISP? (If not, I don't know what it is based on.) Anyway, I felt genuinely, check-my-locks threatened with IRL violence and still do ("a savage public beating" being a little hard for me to see as being something doable other than in IRL), so, in that state of mind, I indicated that that post had been logged for forwarding. (Maybe I was wrong to interpret things like "savage public beating" that way, but I think it
was reasonable; I was shocked at the overreaction to my concededly snotty initial post, and I certainly erred thereafter on the side of prudence.) I haven't done anything with the log, either ISP-wise or local authorities-wise. Maybe it was a "threat" in the derogatory sense to mention logging it, but I certainly felt it was a pretty tame response to what prompted my saying it. Perhaps the better thing to do is to log it (if threatened with beatings, etc.) and not say so. In any event, being told of "a savage public beating" isn't going to incline me to invite MORE, and private (e.g., email), communication. (Maybe this room has some rule of "take it outside," but P. has used the language of physical violence often, so I'm disinclined to invite private emails involving such things.)
Third, there seem to be some suggestions that solely I was at fault, and the only one flamed, in the last go-round. I sure don't feel that way. (The "past" fight had to do with picking on another really easy political target, Dan Quayle, not my favorite guy.) Quite the contrary, I still feel wronged and like I also did some wronging, but -- as I said back there, it was no excuse for MY initial crack about the Bakker statement. I gotta be better than that.
I'm just not going to into the rest of it *shrugs*, certainly not the bodily stuff (which I never brought up initially and responded to only in self-deprecating humor). I didn't even bring up this stuff about what I looked
like, etc. and it simply has nothing to do with anything.
Pogo
Friday, September 24, 1999 02:41:31 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Just a quick post...I have to go work graveyard shift soon.
Pistoff- I'm glad you decided to stay. If you left he would have won. These 'wars' have happened here before, but best thing we can do is realize that what's done is done and that we can't change it, then move on. To continue this will only make things worse and break everyone apart.
Wilek- I laughed so hard when I read that 'vomit' ha ha ha.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:29:04 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net
good eve everyone,
Christine>> caught a few more of your stories, great work, eventually I will get through them all
Dang, my "enter" button just stuck, guess I'm going to have to check for stcky stuff in the keyboard
Work was very interesting today, they painted the ceiling tiles last night, looks real nice and bright in the store now-- however the smell was bad in the store today.
4 more weeks of reset to go
Pistoff>>sent an email, something funny, hope you enjoy it
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, September 24, 1999 01:26:13 AM
IP: 216.190.241.75
Zath> *chuckles* I think it would be worse having to sit next to some looser doing that than just being able to stand there blinking repeatedly with that "I know what you are doing" look ;) Would you believe that we were instructed that if a boy started doing that, we were to allow him to go to the bathroom to "finish" ???... *blinks* No way in hedes!! *shakes head in disbelief and noncompliance*
I mean.. where do we draw the line?? "Don't want to damage their self-esteem" *rolls eyes* since when did *this* have anything to do with building self-esteem? Wait.. don't answer that.. it could go several ways here.. ;)
*cuts a glance over at Pistoff* shuuuddduupppp!!! *LMAO*
You'll have to explain all of this to me later, ok? *g*
well.. if I don't see you at 0:30 tonight - I'll see you when I get home from Louisiana... =) *hugs* I do expect ALOT of work to be done on the newest updates since I won't be around for the next couple of nights to distract and derail the conversation.. *g*
See ya' Rocketman ;)
Jannie
Friday, September 24, 1999 12:52:12 AM
IP: 196-099.c.esc4.net
**RP!**
[Two TIE Vanguard scout ships search the skies of Egypt, looking for any signs of Phalanx colonization...when, directing their sensors at one of the famous landmarks of Giza, they see the telltale cybermechanical modifications of Phalanx assimilation. They begin transmitting their camera footage to the Avatar and swoop in for a closer look...only to be obliterated as soon as they are seen by the base's defense systems, by a plasma beam erupting from one of the pyramids...] Did the Phalanx assimilate the Pyramids? If not, then we can say the beam came from the Sphinx or whatever it is that the Phalanx have over there. :)
**PAUSE RP!**
Tomorrow at 10, the Cartoon Network will be showing two new Yogi The Bear animated shorts...produced by the creators of Ren And Stimpy. o_O' You haven't lived until you've seen Boo Boo spasmodically screeching his fool head off a la Ren Hoek. :P
Deuce> Was it you who, a long time ago in a CR far, far away, requested Riven MP3s? I finally got off my tail and got a CD ripper (actually, that was metaphorical, since if I had actually been standing, I wouldn't be at my computer, and sitting on my tail would have cut off its bloodflow, not to mention being painful :P ). :) Which themes would you like (or do you want them all in one humongous blorff <g>)?
T. J. Veil> <<And pissing off fans is a massivly unwise thing for a network to do.>> Just ask Disney. >;) <<Dragonball Z was hurt by having to constantly refer to 'the next dimension' and the fact that we could hardly tell the difference betweed slightly hurt people and critically injured ones.>> So true. I think the BSP's leash is loosening somewhat--today they showed Nail (or whatever his name is; Piccolo's twin) rather severely hurt, and I think Frieza said explicitly that he (?) intended to kill Vegeta. <<Less is less. More is more. More is better, and twice as much is good too... Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.>> Only a member of a clan like this could understand that. :P
$Doug> Evil Genius Quarterly, eh? Heh heh heh...I think I can have some fun with this. I just know DMW is a fellow subscriber (or owns the publisher)... >:) <<Anytime you want to find the Phalanx base and eliminate it is fine with me and Kit.>> Ah good. Arrangements are even now being made. :)$
Jaden> <<'Do you think I married them for their personalities? Their personalities could shatter entire planets!'>> <muhahaha> I love that one. >:) I think he went on to say something to the effect of, "Their presence inspires me--knowing they're waiting back on Centauri Prime is what keeps me here on Babylon 5!" <g> (I just realized Londo has a lot of the best lines on that show...) Interesting bit> The actress who played Timov was...annoyed? Perplexed? Something...when she realized just what her character's name was when spelled backwards. >8)
Zath> <<now I seem to be getting sick, such is life... Several people (I think 3 but I'm not sure) got shot here yesterday. I'm not sure if it was actually on campus or just in the general area, but either way it's pretty freaky>> Oh no! Ppl's computers are failing, ppl (other than Mr. Disconnect) are getting sick, hurt, shot, de-fingered, a lot more than usual...<shudder> What's going on?! :(
Sarge> <<Every time I press Tab it posts this thing up.>> Text boxes in browsers act strangely--the Tab key, instead of advancing the cursor by five (or whatever) spaces, highlights the nearest clickable object, which in the CR submit form's case is the Submit button. For the benefit of those of us who don't have mice, I suppose (but is there even anyone like that left?). One way to take care of it is to have your browser ask you before submitting anything. Not sure how to do that once it's disabled, though...
Xanathar> <<Today in English, somebody put together a stop motion claymation video titled "Barney Goes To Hell". Lotta fun.Sounded good but I thought Barney was Hellspawn anyway>:)>> You too? :) I once ran across something that basically proved Barney was from Hell; I'll link to it here later if I remember. :) $Hm...I wonder who's next on our Joyride hitlist...? Muhahaha.$
Skippy> <<there is a good possibility that ol' Bob Larson himself might pop in here and throw out some pro-Bob rantings.>> MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! <revs a chainsaw> Bring it on, Beg-boy! >8)
<moment of silence for George C. Scott>
Spacebabie> <<I saw something scary today. The Fake Millenium's new year ball. It was made out of crystal in Ireland and it featured a repeating pattern:A seven pointed star with a circle in the middle!>> Uh oh...<readies an iron dagger, just in case>
Christine> <<we always just schedule the orgies for when you're not around, since we were under the impression you were opposed to such things! ; )>> :P That was before the exorcism. <g> Which reminds me...<produces an octahedral crystal containing a frightening-looking shifting black fog> Would someone mind tossing this into a Nihil for me? Thanks. :)
Toku Kaioto> It's amazing how someone can rant so calmly, wisely, and intellectually. <applauds> Masterful work. :)
SJ> <<I can think of one.....Jesse in that belly shirt and short skirt.....>> I thought Jesse and James were siblings...? <<He does like to dress up in women's clothes an awful lot....>> Well so did Bugs Bunny. :P
Coyote> <<There is actually a clause in the professional lacrosse rule book which covers player *death.* It states that the opposing player responsible for the death is automatically suspended for three games>> O_o' Eh? <shudder> I would have thought he'd be expelled from the league or something; killing another player, even accidentally, is a fairly serious matter...<<I don't have an unlimited supply of fire extinguishers!!>> I have access to technology that can change that. ;)
Jewel> <<I'm starting to really miss basic human contact and being able to just hang out with people (it's really sad when the highlight of your day is going to Borders and sitting in the cafe, by yourself, and writing, because all of your friends are at least an hour and half to three hours away), and worse, my Mom knows where I live now. Great.>> <falls down anime-style> Oh yeesh, how did Mommie Dearest (NO WIRE HANGARS!) find your home?! This woman must be stopped. Where did I leave my assassin droids...
**RESUME RP! This one's long...**
[Later, on the Avatar Of Ganon, Agent Rho has called the command staff to a meeting. Rho: "Fifteen minutes ago, we recieved this footage from the fighters we sent out." On the screen appears the footage of the Phalanx-assimilated structures. Administrator: "The safest course of action would be to destroy the site from orbit, using the Eclipses' superlasers." Khesaat: "No. Dr. Sevarius is probably in there, and we may need him. And, it would probably be a good idea not to destroy this planet's major landmarks; this whole conflict has been enough of a security risk as it is. Besides, those structures are eerily similar to the necropoli of my homeworld, and the Nation Of Worlds' parallel evolution theorists need time to study them." Jespe: "Probably de best thing to do would be to send a few teams in to rescue de Doctor and clear out de Phalanx." Wilek: "Is that possible?" The Administrator hesitates for a moment or two before speaking up: "The Daleks of the station have been working on a computer virus that destroys anything assimilated by the Phalanx. It is nearly complete; it has passed most of the simulations. It is currently calibrated to destroy Phalanx hardware, but it would be simple enough to alter it into an assimilation virus and spread it through Borg nanites." Rho: "Very well. Khesaat, Jespe, assemble a strike team. Administrator, notify the Ravens and whoever's still on the Dark Star II, and start your collective working on the virus."]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Friday, September 24, 1999 12:35:01 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Okay people, enough of this. I did not make a move earlier because it seemed the situation had fixed itself. However, since then, things have gotten out of hand. Here's how I view events.
Yesterday, Pogo posted to this CR for the first time. Almost immediatley afterwards he made an entirely seperate post that seemed to exist only to challenge Pistoff, not to ask an honest question about something he said.
Pistoff then responded angrily, and brought up past history, asking why Pogo kept trashing him.
Several more messages passed between the two, nothing was accomplished, although it was established that if Pogo wanted to keep the peace in the room he could have put up his e-mail address. Over the next few hours several people including Warpmind, Coyote, Spike, tried to calm the situation down, noting the rising flame war.
It was then Pogo made some strange comment about logging Pistoff's ISP, which sounds to me like a threat.
At this point Deuce noted this sounded like a threat, and cleared a pathway for Pistoff to rant. Spacebabie said relax.
Pistoff said he did not take kindly to threats.
Then Pogo made his "apology." Deuce aplauded this, Green Baron said don't stretch this out any longer, and Theresa made a comment about Pistoff having a chip on his shoulder and Pogo looking good.
It was then that I came in, saw the apology, did not bother checking the time between posts, and accepted it. I said I was glad the feud was over and suggested that the Pogo and Pistoff ignored each other due to past blood.
Pogo made a comment about being shallow.
Things seemed back to normal and all was well.
Pistoff remained angry, and stated that Pogo has pulled this stunt before. He also seemed angered that Theresa was taking Pogo's side because he looked good without a shirt while he had a "chip on his shoulder."
Theresa made a sarcastic sounding comment about how describing Pistoff the way she sees him is a mortal sin. Sarcasm not being the opportune way to act here. Later it was revealed to the rest of the CR that she apparently sent Pistoff an e-mail around this time which expalins her reaction, but to the CR, it made little sense at the time.
Then, Theresa made a very ticked off post in reaction to Pistoff's post.
Others told Pistoff not to leave because of this incident. Spike even gave the great advice of "never never let your temper do the typing."
Toku Kiaoto the CR Sage gave his opinion on the situation, and seemed rather rational.
Sevarius Junior gave his opinion on the whole situation
Coyote and Jewel said stop this bickering.
And apparently in the time since I started this post, Pistoff has made another post where he ranted again, but also made a regular post in the process, not spending an entire post yelling.
Now, what was the point of this whole recap? Simple. To show what a waste of time this all is. My internet time is much shorter now than it used to be, I no longer have the time to put up with this stuff or read a CR full of hate mail. Whats said has been said. What hasn't been said will REMAIN unsaid, or said in e-mail. No one else defend themself. Not Pistoff, not Pogo, not Theresa. Work out your problems amongst yourselves. Everyone else is reading this post right now probably, they will know why you do not make an apology to the CR. The way I see it, at this point, even a sincere apology may seem unsincere. If you absoluteley feel you must make an apology to the CR, e-mail *ME*, and at some later point I will make the apology to the CR for you. My policy is as it always is in this kind of situation.
NO ONE says one more SINGLE word about any of this. DOn't even aknowledge this post by saying "Robby- Gotcha" or anything like that. Just pretend the whole buisness never happened. As far as Pogo not making his e-mail accessable, there is nothing I can do about it, it shows he is not sincere about making peace. Pogo, if you have reason to not reveal your e-mail address to the CR, send it to the person who still has words to share.
BUT NO ONE SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS! Thank you, and have a good evening. Lets get back to buisness as usual now.
Robby the CR Co-Administrator - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:52:52 PM
IP: spider-we031.proxy.aol.com
Okay, okay...so I won't leave. Too many people have been threatening to kick my ass if I do. ;) And I'd rather not have the blood on my hands... (just kidding, folks :)
SOROW: Oops, missed this one--"Sick of School Syndrome"...I, too, was afflicted by this quite often. ;)
Deuce: I just got your email...thanks, bud. :)
Gunjack: Yes, I have a lot of anger, but I'd hardly describe it as a chip on the shoulder. Somebody who has a chip on his/her shoulder is angry at everybody, everything, all the time. I'm not. I've been pretty cheerful, on many occasions...it's just that certain things make me go off, and if I kept it bottled up inside, I would've gone Trenchcoat Mafia years ago... ;) <People Eating Tasty Animals is the interpratation that I prefer...:)> Oh gawd...I shouldn't laugh at that, but I am... *evil grin* And thanks for the support. :) :) :)
Starsinger: For your information, I made that post before I read your email, so take that into account, okay? Now, to discuss your points one by one...
Jealous of Pogo?!?! *laughs hysterically* Umm, yeah. Sure. You go right ahead and believe that. *snickers*
I didn't realize your comment about Pogo's Chippendale routine was a joke BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET YOUR GODDAMN EMAIL UNTIL *AFTER* I MADE THE POST!!!!!!!
Since when do I *always* cry about not getting laid? I do it *occasionally*...and the last time I even mentioned it was, what, over a month ago? Sheesh! I haven't gotten any in 8 years, so I'm used to it. It's not that big a deal, anymore...most of the time...but I haven't even mentioned it in a long time--till you brought it up (no pun intended, honest!). And I probably won't mention it again. If the pressure gets to be too much to bear, I can just...um...take the problem into my own hands....
I'm not a gentleman? Possibly not. But I call 'em as I see 'em, and I say what needs to be said. Sorry if that offends you, but ... *shrugs*
I'm not a person you'd like to meet? Well, after reading your last post, the feeling is mutual, because I prefer to talk to people who have some synapses firing now and then.
My ego?? Pogo's the one with the ego problem. I don't have much of an ego left because it's been stomped out of me over the years. *another shrug*
And maybe I do have a chip on my shoulder...but if I do, it's because people like you and Pogo have put it there, nailed it down and friggin' painted it!
So go ahead and yell and slam the door all you want, lady. I said before, this is the last I was gonna say about the Pogo situation, and the same applies here. I have nothing more to say to him, and in fact I plan to ignore him from now on...and if you can't even take into account the possibility that I MAY NOT HAVE EVEN SEEN YOUR RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL BEFORE MAKING THAT POST, then I have nothing more to say to you, either.
Zath: Okay, I won't go. :) Thanks for the support. :) :) <but the latter is just gross (I never had to see it, but there was a guy who sat near my friends in one class who did it on a regular basis. **eeeeewwww...**).> Uh...uggh!! Ye gods! I don't understand that. Couldn't those guys wait till they're somewhere private? That's what I always did... uh...that's probably more information than you required. Sorry... heh... ;)
Kaioto: Didn't mean to upset you, but I just say what I need to say. If I didn't vent, I would've been in jail a long time ago, if not worse. I'm not sure it's pride, exactly...to me, it's simply self defence...but interperet it as you see fit. Anyway, I'm not leaving, and I'm gonna ignore...*him*...from now on. :)
SJ: LMAO!! Well worded, my friend. :) Don't worry, I'm not leaving. I just want this whole thing to blow over. I'm moving on to new stuff now...and waiting for the next fight to start... *g* j/k :P Thanks, bud. :) Glad you enjoyed the neighborhood-watch thingie. :)
David G.: I understand. You haven't offended me at all. :) Maybe my initial reaction was a little shoot-from-the-hip...bit it's just because of the history involved. I've been through this before. *shrugs* Possibly the fact that, the other night I logged on and went to this room and the first thing I saw was *his* post, had something to do with it. It hits harder when you're not expecting it. *shrug again* Anyway, I'm not leaving, and I'm not gonna keep the flame going. It's over, and I'm moving on to whatever comes up next. Thanks. :) Oh, and... <If One More Person Gets His/Her Feelings Hurt and Threatens To Leave the Comment Room...I'M LEAVING THE COMMENT ROOM.> LMAO!!
Coyote: Sorry about your rough day. I've been there, working 12- and 13-hour shifts, dealing with the kinds of humanoids that even Dr. Sevarius wouldn't even consider creating. I hope tomorrow is better. :) I just had that one last thing to get off my chest, earlier, and now it's over. From now on, as far as I'm concerned, that other guy doesn't even exist.
jewel: Crunchier, eh? *L* Y'know...I like the sound of that. I'm...crunchy. *silly grin* Thanks. :) Sorry things are so rough for you. I hope it all works out soon. :)
And now, for something kinda strange...something I found at Softseek.com...it's a set of icons for your mouse pointer...I won't spoil the surprise by telling you what they are...but it's one of those things that you'll either love...or it'll make you sick. :) Click my name link and enjoy!
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:25:48 PM
IP: wire-17.koalas.com
<sigh> Hey, all. My life sucks right now, but what else is new? (And yes, I go to extremes.) Bills are coming in, I've run out of checks, I've started to feel lonely because my friends are all in different states and I'm starting to really miss basic human contact and being able to just hang out with people (it's really sad when the highlight of your day is going to Borders and sitting in the cafe, by yourself, and writing, because all of your friends are at least an hour and half to three hours away), and worse, my Mom knows where I live now. Great. Excuse me, I need to bang my head against a blunt object and scream.
And don't any of y'all flip because of what I just wronte above. Every once in a while,I just get into a depressed snit, and I snap out of it in a few days. It was about time for one to hit me, so...
Things look rather heated in here. So much for a nice, relaxing time in the ol' CR...
Toku: "I hate how many "intellectuals" I've met make it a matter of course to immediately establish that
anyone who disagrees with them and their degree from Harvard is obviously ignorant." That, my friend, is precisely why I want to go into academia. So I can tell some of these navel-gazing windbags to stuff it where the sun don't shine...and here's *my* degree to back me up, so f*ck you, too. That attude by the profs at my college was part of why I was so miserable, and felt like I was baning my head against a brick wall...and part of why I want to become a prof, to add some semblance of reality to their overanaylzed little lives, and to gve heart to the students out there who were like me.
I applaud your whole rant, and it's truly sad that it's the case. Oh, well.
GB: <g> I was a little touchy on the whole issue of religion--I was recently reading a book called "Explaining Hitler," and there was a section where this one guy just attacked Christianity, and I felt like I'd been punched. It was a viscious, hate-filled attack, and it struck me as just being *wrong*--I only consider myself nominally Christian, more by culture than belief, but reading such a virulent attack stung. So when I saw people getting up in arms, I flipped, because it was only a week or so after I started seriously questioning religion, God, and all that jazz. I still am, actually. One more headache on top of everything else...
SJ: Great rant there. I love a man who can get on his high horse and bitch someone out when he feels he has to. ;)
Pistoff: I don't want you to go. You make the CR a little ...crunchier with your comments, and it wouldn't be the same without you. ;)
Pogo: You started off with Pistoff on the wrong foot long ago--I remember some of the previous comments you made months ago. I'm not jumping on you or anything, but just want to bring it to your attention. All that means is that you might have to consider your words a little more care, because they're more likely to be taken badly.
OK, is all for Jewel, I must go write because I feel creative, and got a truly evil idea for really messing with Coyote's head in the next section of "Goetterdaemmerung." Hee hee hee.
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:07:56 PM
IP: 207-172-73-130.s130.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
**enters the room ... more like shuffles into the room ... hoping to find refuge and only finding anger. Leaves for a brief moment, then returns with a fire extinguisher and proceeds to douse EVERYTHING in the room with it.**
Listen up, people ... I just got home from an eleven-hour work day dealing with the utter *dregs* of humanity ... not to mention the yahoo who came twenty friggin' minutes after closing time to exchange something and having to wait around while it was exchanged ... and now I come back to the CR to see this happy horsecrap continuing?! I'm not gonna take it, y'hear?
**briefly pauses to switch out the candles ... making sure the candle is the ONLY still burning flame in the room**
I will say it once again, because it's clear folks didn't see it the first time ... *HONOR THE WOMAN WHO GAVE THIS ROOM THE TEA TABLE OF PEACE, G**DAMMIT!!*
**sits in the soggy massage chair**
I'm gettin' sick of everyone tossing around accusations. It's in the past, feelings were hurt, and folks are unhappy. Make the hell up, people. What's left of my sanity is hanging by a frayed thread, and all this insanity going on in this room is threatening to cut that one thread. You do *NOT* want to see me go postal, people ... it's not a pretty sight. Basically, this is what it's boiled down to ...
Pogo made a jokey, disingenuous apology to make Pistoff look like a jerk.
Pistoff took umbrage because people took said disingenuous apology as an authentic one.
Starsinger took umbrage because Pistoff doubted the value of her opinion, mainly because (to him, at least) it sounded like Pogo was excused because he's as solid as a brick s**thouse. (This is purely hearsay on my part because at the Masquerade, remember, I did not wear my glasses and cannot see anything clearly beyond six inches without them.)
Coyote got sick of it all and doused the entire CR with a fire extinguisher.
It's gotta stop. Somebody make the first move here to end this, because I don't have an unlimited supply of fire extinguishers!!
**tries to catch breath**
Please excuse the irrationality of the above, but it's starting to get old. Let me try to make some authentic replies.
Doug, re: Rain and Rosanna's fate: You'll recall, though, that I was doing some sketches of a new character in Dallas ... or did I show you him? (Anyone else who I met at the Gathering, did I show any of you Torrent?) Anyway, that character *is* the way they get around their sentence. It'll all be explained in time ... if I ever write stories with Torrent.
Mary Flanders: Could be worse ... could be lacrosse. (There is actually a clause in the professional lacrosse rule book which covers player *death.* It states that the opposing player responsible for the death is automatically suspended for three games. :)
WGN and WB: Actually, folks ... you're gonna hate this, but it would appear that WGN only dropped *Kids' WB* from their schedule ... I tuned in to WGN last night during prime time and found them showing WB prime time programming.
**moment of silence for George C. Scott**
**sits back in the massage chair and tries to steady his breathing ... but ultimately fails, gazing up at the candle's flame and shedding tears**
I'm so sorry, Ravyn ... none of us are peacemakers like you ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:02:48 PM
IP: modem78.i-is.com
My, it's been an interesting evening. I just step out to deliver some furniture to my new place, and look what happens. (Like anything would have been different if I'd been here).
Pistoff> we're not very close friends, having only spoken briefly, so I'm not sure how much I should tell you. I value your friendship, and don't want to jepordize it, but I have things to say. I'll go for the semi-restrained version:
I read Pogo's first post (in this particular argument), and I didn't think it was all that offensive. If someone had directed a similar comment at me, I would have responded with a rational, moderate answer. If someone other than Pogo had posted that comment to you, you probably would have as well.
NOTE THIS- I don't really know any of the history between Pogo and you, so the context of his comment is probably totally different for you. I'm just trying to give you another perspective.
The rest of the argument, I really can't find much fault with. People can get mad at each other, even yell once in a while, and still part on civil terms. You got mad, Pogo responded, etc... His apology was convieniantly timed, though.
Now we come to the aftermath. Your feelings are hurt. You're mad (with some justification). You threaten to leave the room...
WARNING. RANT AHEAD. The following statment makes use of sarcasam to make a point. Readers who have trouble decoding symbolic language should be advised to skip the paragraph.
If One More Person Gets His/Her Feelings Hurt and Threatens To Leave the Comment Room...I'M LEAVING THE COMMENT ROOM.
END RANT. The preceding paragraph made use of verbal symbolism, and did not reflect the actual, concrete, intentions of the writer. Thank you.
Anyway, back to my point. If you want to prove you're more mature than Pogo (which might not be hard. I'm witholding judgement for now) then act more mature, not just immature in a different way, please. I don't want to see you leave the room. I also don't want to see you stuck in an endless cycle of arguments that aren't worth your time. I wish I had a magic solution that would make all your problems go away. (But I'd test it on myself, first, just to be safe).
I may have offended you. I really hope not, but this is a topic I feel strongly about, so I had to say something.
Pogo> You, I know even less than Pistoff. For you, I mostly have questions:
Did you know the effect your comment would have on Pistoff?
If so, why did you make it?
After you set him off, why keep going? Does driving someone up the wall fill some sort of power trip for you? If you really intended to keep things peacable, all you had to do after his first response was not say anything more on the subject. If you felt like you absolutly had to respond, you could have said "clearly, this is going to become an argument, let's just drop it."
Pistoff's first accusations sounded fairly strange to me. Once again, I don't really have all the background here. I'm not ready to believe his version of the story completely. On the other hand, if what he says is true, you need to examine your life. There's not really anything positive you can accomplish by antagonizing people for the fun of it.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:22:27 PM
IP: pppa33-fortworth15-2r308.saturn.bbn.com
First things first.
I wasn't here the last day or so, so I didn't get to comment on the Pistoff/Pogo situation. And frankly, I'm sorry I didn't get to say my piece, so here it goes. Fuelin' the fires, baby. I love ya, Kaioto, but I'm gonna piss you off with this, so be forewarned.
This is to you, the lovable Pogo: I don't know who you are, cause frankly you hang around (although perhaps with your recent behavior, I should say SLUM around) the S8 room, and I don't go in there much. So I don't know, maybe you're a great guy, everyone loves you, you were nominated prom king and the world is your oyster. But frankly, the way I see it, the last few days...well, you acted like an asshole. That's straight up, no punches pulled. You were a son of a bitch for no good reason. I can't claim to understand what type of history you have with Pistoff over in S8, but you should have left it at the door the second your fingers did the walking and decided to type something in here. That's just called simple civility, my GQ friend. Regardless of whether you thought Pistoff's Bakker comment was inappropriate or not, you shouldn't have acted the way you did by being a smartass. I mean, I don't even know you, but after reading your few brief posts, that was my impression of you--he's a smartass. "I've logged your ISP" What the hell is this? Dumb threat my friend, and not even a halfway funny joke if that was what it was meant to be. And what do we get? In your "apology", what were your exact words? "I was acting ridiculous". Followed about 2 lines later saying that, although you didn't try to get someone banned, YOU KEPT HIS ISP ADDRESS LOGGED. Again, may I reiterate--What the hell is this? Are you afraid of Pistoff? Or do you just like having his balls on a chain, so you can yank it any time you damn well please?
I don't know, I've never seen you without your shirt, so maybe if I did I'd fall in love with you too. Way I see it, you acted, and still acted even with your 'lo siento', like a smartassed jerk. Not exactly a wonderful impression. I'm probably not leaving a good impression with you either, but hey, you piss on a friend of mine (no pun intended, Fred), you piss on me.
Feel free to log MY ISP, you sexy thing.
Pistoff: I don't want you to leave, man! Not for someone like him! Wait this thing out!
But as much as I don't want you to go....I have to admitt, I see the logic in your reasoning. If the people in here are more concerned with Pogo's manly chest than the way he treats you, perhaps you should leave. I'm with you on this, but I would hate to have to see you go cause of this one individual.
Theresa: Look at it this way. Let's say a woman starts coming in here. She treats you like a bitch. But she also looks like Cindy Crawford's twin sister, so most of the males in here are drooling over her. She continutes to treat you like a bitch, and her treatment of you is dismissed cause she's a hottie. And you're told you're "jealous" of her looks, when all you really want is for the abuse to stop. I'd have a "chip" on my shoulder the size of Texas.
A moment of silence for George C. Scott. Goodbye, Patton. I'll miss you.
Reason I wasn't in here yesterday: I was absolutely dead tired after a neighborhood watch patrol, 3 hours worth of classes, AND....a police ride along!!! I have to say this, regardless of your opinions of cops...it was the coolest thing I've done in a looooong time! Nothing really major happened, but it was still great. The cop I had was not only a great guy, but very funny, and he actually let me get involved in a few things. Plus I got to hang around the station house for a while and talk with the other cops, be "one of the guys". These guys have a tough job, but you'd never know it; they're constantly joking around and
trying to have a good time. It was a lot of fun, and I got plenty of good info for my ADJ class.
[BTW....just a little insider tip to confirm some rumors....yes, the cops can be jerks if they want to be when it comes to giving out tickets. The key--kiss their butts, they'll likely just give you a warning ;)
Green Baron: I should apologize to you. I was fairly harsh in my comments to you. I still didn't like your choice of words in referring to Luther, but I can understand where they were coming from, and I shouldn't fault you for them that much. I'm sorry I acted the way I did, it was crummy of me. I apologize, bro. Hope no hard feelings? :)
JackaL: I miss your brand of insanity in here, man! You stop by entirely too un-often! BTW, I'm in the same boat about NIN. I need to scroung up the 20 spot I need to pick up "The Fragile"...
Robby: About James of Team Rocket--<<He's only in Team Rocket because he enjoys certain aspects of it...>> I can think of one.....Jesse in that belly shirt and short skirt.....that impossibly long stream of red hair.....those long legs.....I'm sorry, was I thinking out loud again.
Or maybe he doesn't like Jesse. He does like to dress up in women's clothes an awful lot....
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:06:11 PM
IP: 207-172-87-162.s162.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
*Sighs* People just don't get it … Pistoff doesn't get it … Pogo gets it far, far too well … enough to bend the situation to his whim. Yes, Pistoff, I DID notice how Pogo is behaving. It WAS a cheezy, stupid ettiquette-lawyering crap tactic. I DID see it, but I didn't want to take sides in this … but I'm aggravated at the both of you … but Pogo is the one who just sprang on in here out of the blue and hasn't even gotten a seat warm before he takes a shot at someone in here. I don't care how much of a chip Pistoff has on his shoulder, he's a member of this clan … and you provoked him.
You two have been down this path before, so you both ought to know better. Pogo knows better than to open old wounds. Pogo knows what happens when he tries to hurt Pistoff. Pogo is certainly amused, apparently by all the entertainment he's been generating.
Yes, Pogo's "apology" looked to me like a crock of BS …
Yes, Pogo came in here and laid into Pistoff right off.
Yes, Pogo knew damn well what he was doing.
And yes, this situation makes me angry …
And no, I don't think Pistoff should leave …
If any resolution to this would make me happy, I'd like to see separate corners for the both of them. That means that Pogo leaves Pistoff alone, and Pistoff calms down. It means no more snide remarks from the likes of Pogo, and no indirect ranting from Pistoff.
You two and your pride.
Pistoff defends his with a lion's roar and about as much rational.
Pogo defends his like a scorpion, a silent, venomous sting he keeps behind his back until nobody's looking …
Well I'm sick of it …
To quote the Rock …
"You can take your pride, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up YOUR CANDY @$$!"
Pistoff: Don't let him turn you into a bad guy, a source of anger and disruption. You've got to chill, right or wrong. You can defend your chip … but there are consequences.
Pogo: Quoth the Rock: "Know your roll, AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!" You can have a great time with us, or you can mess everything up … but there are consequences.
Say what you want, but don't NOBODY come in here and ruin the peace and quiet of this place for Behavioral Science Experiments, foolish pride, or a few laughs. NOBODY screws with my Clan …
*Breaths*
Deuce: Sure, post my period. Just remember to quote me, OK?
*wanders out wondering if anyone other than Deuce ever reads his calm rants. Wonders what kind of screaming and venom he's going to draw for naming names and pointing out the way people are behaving THIS time* *decides to hang onto his No-Dachi for the time being*
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 09:54:36 PM
IP: 141.133.150.161
Never, never, never let your temper do your typing.
Spike
Thursday, September 23, 1999 09:28:08 PM
IP: pppt05-166.ght.iadfw.net
Pistoff> DON'T GO!! <<e slips in one last cheap shot, then immediately apologizes before I can see his comment, much less respond>> I'd really rather stay out of this, but it *is* pretty odd that Pogo ripped you, sat and deeply pondered the situation, changed his mind about his behavior, *and* had time to type another post, all in the space of 12 minutes (and 11 seconds).
Jannie> <<In kindergarten - yes, I watch for markers and other items being placed in mouths - in 5th grade, I'm more concerned with what the boys are doing with their hands in their laps, scrunch down under their desks with a goofy grin on their faces.>> Unfortunately, I've had to deal with classmates who do both those things even as seniors in high school. The former problem can be pretty funny (a 12th grader, who is now a Marine, was chewing on the back end of a pen refill and then confused when it leaked ink all over his tongue and face), but the latter is just gross (I never had to see it, but there was a guy who sat near my friends in one class who did it on a regular basis. **eeeeewwww...**).
Gunjack> <<Has anybody in here ever heard of a guy named James Randi?>> Is he the guy who, to prove how gullible people were, hired an actor to pretend to channel the ancient spirit of a warrior named Carlos, and then when they admitted it was a hoax, a lot of people still thought it was real? If it's the same guy, he had a cool trick where he made it look like his heart stopped by hiding a rubber ball in his armpit and squeezing it to cut off the circulation when someone was taking his pulse.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 09:21:45 PM
IP: ppp-224-123.usc.edu
Pistoff if you are so JEALOUS of Pogo why not admit it. All you can do is rant against my teasing of Pogo's Chippendale routine that you come across as an offended ex boyfriend or husband. You always cry about how everybody gets some except you and you seem to resent that someone is 'getting' something you're not. You have the nerve to call me shallow!
The only memorable thing about Pogo from the Gathering WAS his Chippendale routine and my head has NEVER been turned by a pretty face. I truthfully, don't even remember if I ever had any words with Pogo at the Gathering.
You sirah are no gentleman and I think not someone I would ever like to meet. You DO INDEED HAVE A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER AND IT MATCHES YOUR EGO. THICK AND OPAQUE.
STARSINGER LEAVES AND SLAMS THE DOOR BEHIND HER!!!!!!!!
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:53:22 PM
IP: proxy-443.public.paix.webtv.net
Oy... four days at Harding U. with Mera and her incredibly cool brother, two seven hour car trips with a really cool sixty year old lady, and then two days hardlining math to try to get back to Harding all next week... I finally got to try out multiplayer deathmatch on Quake II (YESSSS!!!), and got to hear the Wierd Al "Running With Scissors" album...:)
Unfortunately, it looks like the next trip isn't going to work out, so I've got to wait until thanksgiving before I see my girl again...:(
*Looking slightly melancholly, Valentine jacks into a portable terminal and scans through two weeks of posts*
Woowee! Religious debates, mini flamewars, and tele-evangelists... And the only mention of Gargoyles I've seen all week has been in the RP or in references to cartoons in general.
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!!
*Scans through the posts again*
Ooo, so much to say, and some of it from several days ago... Starting from the bottom...
Firestorm - I'm sure you've already awnsered this, but I'm dying from curiosity... What the HECK are you building that requires a half million feet of corrosion-resistent steel? A destroyer? A water tower? A submarine? I gotta know! Oh, and kudos on the OD job. Way to show 'em how the game works!:)
Skippy><<Yes, we do a lot of forge work. But no, we don't make swords or knives. That's something of a stock answer I use cause almost everyone who I talk to in fandom wants a sword>> That's ok, I make my own...:) Actually, you really should try it. I do stock removal (due to my lack of a forge), but it's actually quite a bit of fun! I just got some new grip materiel, and I'm hoping to restart work on an "Industrial Fighter" that's been kicking around in my metal box for a while...
GB><< I disagree with you about consolidating the Armed services, especially since each one serves a unique purpose, and the Marines are connected to the Navy, while the Air Force used to be the US Army Air Coprs, and it is also teh professional wing of the Armed Forces, which is why I'm joining after College to get my butter bars :)>> Maybe so, but wait a few years, and you'll see some massive changes in the division of fighting assets... Frankly, I think that the division of fighting forces has become slightly deranged as new weapon systems have come online, and it's only going to get worse.
Tele-evangelists - Has anybody in here ever heard of a guy named James Randi? He's basicly a magician (read Illusionist, not witchcraft) who travels around debunking the paranormal claims of psychics, faith healers, and other fakes. He's written several books demonstraiting the falacies behind popular "paranormal" events, and also has put forward a prize of $10,000 for anyone who can prove, under controlled conditions, that they have a paranormal power.
So far, no takers.
As for Bob Larson, I've got an aquantiance whose whole family has swallowed this guy's bull hook, line, and sinker. They once sat me down and showed me a good chunk of his "exorcism" video. How anybody sees that waste of tape as definitive proof that Larson is on the right track is beyond me. Of course, this is the same family that told my sister that our mother was possessed...
Jannie><<Television Evangelist: they are not the "norm" for most Christianity. They make a bad name for those who choose that practice and who do it with a good heart and soul.>> Amen. Not only that, but people can forget that there's a difference between that smoothtalker on the TV and the honest, caring christians in the real world.<< I am a believer of consequences and believe that those who have misrepesented christianity and made a mockery of it (most TV Evangelist) will have consequences...either now or in the afterlife. They will have an even higher price to pay for their deeds.>> Friggin' A!
Duece><< Have you read Christine's fic "Black Roses"? This Chris guy doesn't look like Denzel Washington at all, does he? ;-) I repeat: BE CAREFUL.>> Uh, I think we're getting just a LITTLE bit paranoid, aren't we? Still, one can never be too safe, ne? <<"The RCC has some covert operations, but we're the good guys :)"] I can see it now.... "Tom Clancy's Vatican: Covert Ops". *L*>> Dang, but it'd be great to see Clark as a priest... Ooo, there go the Creativity Demons again! <<PETA? Indulge the poor stupid boy here: huh?>> People Eating Tasty Animals is the interpratation that I prefer...:)
Sweet little comic strip! I loved it!
Nightstalker><<GO TO SEARCH , TYPE BJORK, GO TO THE ULTIMATE INTIMATE BJORK FANSITE, THEN GO TO PICS. CLICK ON BJORK-ALIKES. THE VERY BOTTOM PIC IS ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS DEMON THAT TRIES TO BE LIKE THE ICELANDIC ANGEL.>> Aww, but she's such a CUTE demon... And I swear, that outfit will NEVER pass as a school uniform...:)
SOROW><< For the past week my mother has been making this dress by hand that I've always wanted. It's in the medeival fashion with huge puffy sleeves, a bodice looking vest, and a very poofy skirt. It's gold and burgundy and beautiful!>> Very cool! But, uh, let's see here... Burgendy, yes... gold...also yes... bodice and poofy sleeves... a third yes... Have you compared this dress to Elisa's from the illustration that is used in here for a graphic?
Shogun><<SIGN OF THE ARMAGEDDON> Today on Jerry Springer, jerry had a midget dressed up like him following him around, yes Springer had his own "mini-me">> Have you heard the Wierd Al song "Jerry Springer"?
*Valentine fades out momentarily, and then pops back into phase*
Ok, just came back after a few hours to finish the post, and I don't like what I see... the library is closing and I won't be able to post again until saturday, but until then...
PISSTOFF! Do not even THINK about leaving! This whole affair is stupid, and it's not even your fault, so why do something rash? Pogo was in the wrong, and you merely defended yourself. As far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely NO REASON for you to leave! As for the comments about Pogo "defusing the situation"... I cannot speak for everyone, But I was planning on saying the same thing before I saw your last post, simply because I didn't understand the situation. All I saw was an apology from pogo, and nothing from you, so I asumed that the problem was over. DO NOT take this to mean that everyone is against you! As for the comment from Theresa about the chip on your shoulder, it was true. You do have a chip on your shoulder, and that's why you post under the name "Pisstoff". When I read the afformentioned post, it didn't even occur to me that the comment could be taken the way you took it!
Everybody just chill out, and I hope to see you all here on Saturday...
Gunjack Valentine
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:52:10 PM
IP: 205.165.166.136
Pistoff> Check your goddamned email. You are NOT leaving.
Deuce - [prohibitor@curtain.cjb.net]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:19:54 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
** Deuce walks in, "Bohemian Rhapsody" blaring behind him. **
I'm quite pleased with this song: high quality, low size MP3. No skips at all.... And yet I can't get the Patrick Stewart version of it out of my head... yes, I saw our very own Captain Picard on some late night TV show singing parts of "Bohemian Rhapsody". Freakin' scarred me for life.
SOROW> ["It's true that I was sick... but also because I thought I deserved a break from my teachers ;)"] Sick of school, eh? A disease I suffered from through much of jr. high....
Kaioto> *Deuce stands up and gives Kai a standing ovation* I _loved_ your rant, ami. Mind if I put your little pyramid at the bottom onto my website? ["...we've regressed back to Homeric Greek and Feudal Japanese values in some respects."] Yeah, and back to the Roman Empire in many other respects. I'm not kidding, the similarities are SCARY.
Well, I'm in too good of a mood for a Thursday... I think I'll call somebody.
** Deuce leaves **
Deuce - [boilingmercury@curtain.cjb.net]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:04:21 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
This could very well be my last post here, for reasons which will become clear later. But for now, I'll get to some replies that I've been neglecting because I've been too busy and too preoccupied with recent events. If I miss anybody, I apologize, it's because I'm still so honked off over this whole thing....
Delphi: You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed the bloopers. And thanks for the email. :) Sorry I haven't had a chance to thank you before...
Coyote: <if you ask me, glorified trailer-trash was exactly what the Bakkers were ... I don't know any woman outside of a whorehouse that uses a spackle knife to put on their makeup as Tammy Fae (geez, the *name* should be a tipoff!!) obviously does.> THANK you! :)
Deuce: *g* I'll contact you on ICQ later on tonight, thanks for giving me your number. :)
Jannie: Thanks for offering me the use of Noelle's Stupid Stick. But in this case, the stick would need to be the size of a telephone pole. ;) And thank you so much for what you said about the Pogo situation. *hugs* I'll add my own two cents later... ;)
Wilek: Nope, not a Ferengi...just a jerk. ;)
Zath: Yes, I absolutely loved the pictures! :D I hope you'll consider doing more in the future, if you have time. :)
Moment of silence for George C. Scott....
Okay, now for the main event....
Despite what everybody is saying, I have NOT "let this cool down." I simply haven't had time to respond to the last of Pogo's comments. Not that there's any point, since he's too damned stupid to back off when I ask him to.
HOWEVER...I noticed Starsinger's cute little comment about how I have a chip on my shoulder. I honestly tried to just let this go because, after Pogo's so-called "apology," I'll probably look like a fool if I keep it going in public (but I no longer care, I just can't let this one go). By the way, that was just the kind of sleazeball-lawyer trick I would expect from him, and one he's used on me several times before--he slips in one last cheap shot, then immediately apologizes before I can see his comment, much less respond, so I'd look like an asshole if I said anything more. And I'm doing it anyway, just because I'm sick of his juvenile BS. He doesn't even have the balls to post his own email address so I could respond quietly and prevent a flame war from upsetting everyone else. But he wanted to keep it public, so... *shrugs*
But getting back to my point. Do I have a chip on my shoulder just because I defended myself from an unwarranted attack by a child in a man's body? Because I continued to defend myself after he refused to let it drop?
Oh, but then, as Starsinger said, Pogo looks absolutely wonderful without a shirt, and I've heard so many other women comment on what a "hunk" Pogo is (and I don't see this at all...first time I saw a picture of Pogo, the first thing I thought was, "He looks like somebody a gay guy would like to have sex with..."). So I guess he can act as childish as he wants, do whatever the hell he wants, insult me as much as he wants, threaten to screw with my ISP as much as he wants, and all is forgiven just because he's a "hunk." So once again, looks are more important than what's inside, eh? I never expected anybody in here to be so damned shallow. Apparently I expected too much. I won't make that mistake again.
Pogo and I have a history from the S8 comment room. He has attacked me several times, and every time it ended the same--he slipped in one final cheap shot, then pretended to apologize, making himself look like the hero and making me look like the bad guy, and everybody patted him on the back for "defusing the situation." He has manipulated people into doing this, and nobody seems to have caught on. And you know what? Even though he apologized, he'll start it all over again, sooner or later, just as he did all those other times. And it'll end the same way, with a cheap shot and a fake apology, and everybody will smile and pat him on the back and then ask him to take his shirt off because he's such a hunk.
*shakes head in disgust* Pogo is a reprehensible child in an adult body. He delights in provoking me and acting like it's some sort of game. I ask him to back off and let it drop, and he just continues to come back with smartass remarks, threats, and that smarmy attitude of his. But because he's a "hunk" he can get away with it, and if I defend myself, I have a chip on my shoulder. Yeah. Sure.
People's willingness to forgive Pogo and let him get away with everything offends and hurts me. And saying I have a chip on my shoulder just because I defended myself--as anybody else would defend themselves against any attack--is the worst slap in the face of all. Every time somebody says Pogo is a hunk and talks about how good he looks without a shirt, my blood boils, because I know he can do anything and be absolved just because of what's on the outside. It's a good thing I didn't see his "act" at the Gathering, because I would've started throwing tomatoes at him. Everything he does, his entire attitude, is childish, and he needs a good spanking. But if I were the one who did it, I guess it would be because I have a chip on my shoulder, not because I defended myself against an unwarranted attack.
You know something? Being a "hunk" is all that guy has going for him. I see right through him, and I don't put up with any of his crap. If that makes you think I have a chip on my shoulder, so be it. If you let your judgement be impaired by Pogo's alleged good looks, ignoring the fact that he's a spoiled brat who probably gets some sort of sexual thrill out of provoking me, then that's your problem.
And if people in the CR share that attitude, and are willing to let Pogo kick me in the ass and then congratulate him for "defusing the situation," then I see little point in posting here anymore. I won't hang around a place where this kind of stupidity is allowed to continue, and the wrong person takes the blame for it.
So go ahead and fantasize about Pogo's bare chest all you want. I'll take my chip and go elsewhere.
This is the last I'll say on this topic...and probably the last thing you'll here from me in here, period.
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:03:26 PM
IP: wire-19.koalas.com
Apparently, describing Pistof as having a chip on his shoulder is a mortal sin. He comes across as abrasive most of the time when he is being backed into a corner or a no win situation. Pogo did indeed threaten him. Turned around and played the "I'm a baaad boy" routine so Pistoff will look the fool or the person continuing to keep a flame going on instead of being able to defend himself.
I have it from two people now, one is Pistof himself, that I was out of line in describing him as having a chip of his shoulder. That is how his abrasive manner and postings come across. At least to me. It is part of who he is. I accept that of him and if he started to tone things down I would be very worried.
Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 07:57:03 PM
IP: proxy-443.public.paix.webtv.net
Well, my free time is officially down the toilet. a see, my mentor is pushing me a bit harder now,trying to get me to do a full 7 pages of comic art a week. (Which means multiple panels which means more than one simple illustration) Added to that school and writing and drawing for TGS, (Actually, I can probably combine TGS work and my mentorship work...) and certain things like needing four hours of sleep and time to eat, not to mention new Dragonball episodes and catching Conan O Brian, and I have literally, no free time anymore. At best I'll be able to pull two hours a day online, so if I start to post a little more infrequently or whatnot, you guys know why. I'm busy. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere, I just may not be around as much or for as long... On weekends it should be a bit better, but still...
And for those interested, the page I'm doing today is a short bit from Beast Wars... The very first, "You SHOT me!" bit. Heh.
**Moment of silence for George C. Scott**
Sorow- COuntdown when we know when we're getting new eps? Uh... Sure?
Robby
Thursday, September 23, 1999 07:30:20 PM
IP: spider-wd061.proxy.aol.com
Thanks for the info, SJ.
Doug
Thursday, September 23, 1999 07:28:41 PM
IP: pool-207-205-151-11.dlls.grid.net
Real post later.
Doug: I believe the character that you are referring to, "Benny", is the Punisher's pal codenamed Microchip. He was a buddy of Frank's (the Punisher) from way back, and helped him in his crusade on crime when he could (I think he gave him technical info, help in getting info on perps, stuff like that).
Personally, I think Fox did well with only including him as much (or in this case, as little) as they did. In the story they presented, he wasn't of much consequence or importance. In the comics, while he was a vital part (I suppose he was a sort of Alfred to Frank's Batman) in keeping the Punisher human, the cartoon version didn't really need him.
BTW, you may want to give the Punisher a look soon. Steve Dillon and Garth Ennis, the fancy pencils and words behind the classic "Preacher" will be taking the book over soon for at least 12 issues. Body counts are promised to be ceiling high. ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 07:22:23 PM
IP: 207-172-87-162.s162.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
**RANT WARNING**
OK, I got a little apathetic about this after class, but once I ate a good meal, I turned to reflect upon what is eating me …
I game to a conclusion …
Bullies, and bullying, piss me off.
In America, the fine arts of discussion and debate have been mostly lost to our modern "civilized" society. We live in a time where issue are not argued upon merit or fact. They are not argued with the reality in mind that two perfectly rational, informed individuals can disagree. They are not pursued with the notion of compromise and mutual respect. Arguments in America, especially political ones, are fought in the realm of defamation. Gone are the days when one would defend and support an issue, or enter a discussion with an open mind. Now it is a matter of proving that those supporting the opposing (or even differing) side of an issue are some combination of shamefully ignorant, rampantly untrustworthy, and plain old monstrous. Argument has become a game of vilification.
I remember well the days of high school, because I revisit them when I hear talk radio or Cross-fire or something of that ilk. One group, louder than the other, shouting the differing opinion down. We live in a very uncivil "civilized society" where instead of debating and working to find the Truth, we try to "win" the argument by making the opposition sit down and shut up … or making everyone cease to listen to our detractors.
You see, we've regressed back to Homeric Greek and Feudal Japanese values in some respects. We prize glory/reputation above honor and rationality. We listen to those who are popular to our world-view. We judge, as a society, on image. Superficial at best, image has to be carefully cultivated in a climate of whim and general human insanity and inconsistency. It is a hard one prize that many will defend to the death. Why? Because it is inherently tied to our ability to exercise our rights to free speech effectively. You're right to Free Speech does not amount to jack if a dozen folks follow you around and scream so loud they drown out what you say. In the same right, if ever time you try to open your mouth some loser walks down the street and begins to make ludicrous humor at your expense when you need to be serious, it is likely what you say will be lost along with the credibility people would've given you had you not been made a laughing-stock.
With this in mind, concept of the modern "argument" is not civilized, though it may fall under the rules of being "civil". It is as pathetic and low as physical bullying. Attempting to discredit someone is the typical way we argue intellectually in modern America, and attempting to dismember someone is the typical way we argue physically. They are the same in intent: To harm another so they can no longer oppose us. They are the same in result: Harm a person (and fight the idea indirectly). They are the same in theme: Direct conflict of person to person. They also both require something: Assuming some right to demean and mistreat another human being.
This is not debate, or discussion, ladies and gentlemen, no matter how many nice verbal veils we throw over it. It is fighting … it is bullying. No amount of civility, platitudes, and flowery, superficial verbiage will conceal the fact that someone is directing their commentary against another person, rather than an idea. We as a people should not kid ourselves about being "above" such things. We do it every day, and it is one of the reasons things suck so bad sometimes.
I hate how a man can be shouted down, unable to voice his opinion to anything more than rocks and trees, if he holds an opinion some find "objectionable".
I hate how people's ears minds spring shut like steel traps the minute someone lets it slip that they are a member of a certain political party or religion.
I hate how 80% of jurors in America walk into a court room and have their minds made up by prejudices, before the opening arguments are even started.
I hate how groups of people will refuse to listen to someone because they dress in black, or they have brown skin.
I hate how a Caucasian is so often dismissed as not having a valid opinion about Civil Rights.
I hate how many "intellectuals" I've met make it a matter of course to immediately establish that anyone who disagrees with them and their degree from Harvard is obviously ignorant.
I hate how many of "the religious" I've met or encountered in history make or made it a matter of course to immediately establish that anyone disagreeing with them was either warped, misguided, or just plain evil.
I hate how folks treat each other in this day and age, the lack of respect shown to other individuals, and their rights.
I hate excessive selfishness and self-induced ignorance of the feelings, plights, and intrinsic self worth of strangers.
I hate it when people think they are entitled to condescend to others and make them feel small, or embarrassed.
With all that anger and arrogant self-righteousness I possess, all the ideas and behaviors that anger me, I still haven't found a Person that I hate.
Don't hate people.
Don't harm people.
Don't be a slave of image.
Don't be a tool of the system.
Don't be mastered by your impulses.
Don't let your prejudices impair your open mind.
Don't let your pride ruin your ability to love one another.
Don't forget to better not only yourself, but your community.
Don't forget the responsibilities that come with your True Humanity.
Don't be another one of the many drones who heaps more destruction onto the pile.
The Unmaker has enough help as it is. We don't need any more bullies.
That's all I have to say about that … Make of it what you will.
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 06:47:39 PM
IP: 141.133.150.161
SORROW>> Here's Pat Spillers' Email addy: captpat@txdirect.net [Her website is www.sfstuff.com]
She got back to me yesterday and I think we can work everything out so that you can get your shirt. Drop me a line so I know how everything turns out!
Spike - [cshayden@juno.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 05:39:26 PM
IP: pppt17-40.ght.iadfw.net
Sorry for the second post:
Spike> I can't get to your site. Will you please give me the link to Pat Spillers to ask about that shirt? Thanks.
SOROW
Thursday, September 23, 1999 04:59:31 PM
IP: dll2b111-25.splitrock.net
Deuce: Kit and I meant look of course. Not like. Sorry for the typo.
Aaron: You used to be a big Punisher fan? Great! Here are my main questions (you can answer them by e-mail or in here).
1. What were the names of his wife and two kids (the people he's avenging)?
2. In one of the Spiderman episodes I have on tape with the Punisher involved, he has a partner named Benny who drives his battle van. Is this guy a real character from the Punisher comics or did the Fox Spiderman people just make him up and then discard him once he was no longer necessary (The Punisher was in two more eps, but we never saw Benny again)? If he was in the comics, what information do you know about him? (I plan to include him as a bit player in the story, and have already made up a lot of his part but will need to know more before I can transcribe the actual scenes.)
Thanks very much, hope soon to get your answers. That's all for now.
Doug
Thursday, September 23, 1999 04:55:03 PM
IP: pool-209-138-161-123.dlls.grid.net
Here I am posting very early because I didn't go to school today. It's true that I was sick... but also because I thought I deserved a break from my teachers ;) Don't tell!
Spike> He moved!? Well, that explains it. But he could've at least written me saying so in the first place because the bank says that the $20 check I wrote him was cashed. I'll write to Pat Spillers, but I certainly hope I don't have to pay again or it'll end up being a $40 shirt! Thanks for the info! HUGZ!
JackaL> Awwwwww, sorry man. I just hooked up with someone at school! But here's a kiss anyway... *SMOOCH*
Robby> Whenever they announce the date of the new season eps, are you still going to give us a countdown? I always loved that!
SOROW
Thursday, September 23, 1999 04:49:46 PM
IP: dll2b111-25.splitrock.net
Um...did someone try to send me an e-mail today? If so...something happened to it as it arrived--my program notified me of a new message, but when I tried to download it, nothing was there. It'd probably be a good idea to resend. Thanks. <does something vile to Mr. Disconnect>
Real post later.
Wilek
Thursday, September 23, 1999 02:29:13 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
**RP HERE**
With a groan of pain and freakish misery, Kaioto rolls onto his knees, rising from his trance/shock state. Shaking his head and growling in pain, he mutters a few things darkly about being used as the Universe’s lead blocker, and never being aloud to retire … He draws in a long, shaky breath …
And he exhales it in a howling shout in a forgotten tongue. His shout quickly is cut off into gurgling screams as his rapidly-healing flesh is torn open anew on his back. Shrapnel from the tank shell that should’ve killed him now made him wish it had as it ripped its way back out of his body.
The Seeker crumples back to the ground, trying to regain his strength. He glances about with tear-stained vision, trying to determine what sort of threat calls him from the natural course of his healing and compels him to rise once more … A single thought makes an impression in his mind as he hears the Song re-knitting his body … Demon … Devil …
**End RP**
*walks in carrying a No-Dachi over one shoulder* You know … I walk away for a few days, spend a few lurking, and everything goes to hell and then tries to right itself on its own.
*sighs* Few things ruin a perfectly good autumn day than walking into this place and seeing a trail of posts that rip out the core of the ideals on which this place functions as a community … as a Clan.
JackaL: You’re right, we you should stop by here more often. : ) *hugs*
I’ve got some boring classes to brood on this before I return, but if I return with the same mind as I leave this, there is going to be an earful about the world we live in … fair warning … *half-hearted grin*
Later folks,
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:58:53 PM
IP: 141.133.119.169
Christine> (Raises eyebrows) Exactly what did you have in your evil, twisted mind. I was thinking more along the lines of a cage match, though I'd probably lose that too.
(BTW, you do remember me, right? 5'6", about 125 pounds, built sort of like Dream of the endless. I'm not going to be showing off any washboard abs anytime soon.)
Spike> Well, I know Baby Fey has a Demmie on her back. Anyone else lurking around who's got a gargs tattoo?
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:44:18 PM
IP: ppp-246.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Heh.... you know what I'd like to see as a contest at one of these Gatherings? A Body Art contest -- Aaron got Demona on his chest, art chick Sapphire has a grey gargoyle on her back, who knows what kind of skin art is lurking out there in fandom?
Spike
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:21:52 PM
IP: pppt01-254.ght.iadfw.net
I never could get the hang of Thursdays.... Halfway through my post this morning, I realised DC had done his work on my school's server, so now i had a post with nowhere to put it. I had to save it to a text file and wait 'til lunch... scary thought considering the average lifespan of a student file on a local drive in the library is about 45 minutes... you've got the kids that go through and put EVERYTHING in the Trash, regardless of how important it is. But it seems to have worked, and if you're reading this, I know it did.
Green Baron> ["It actuallys temmed from a joke back in highschool when someone propsed selling indulgences as a fundraiser..."] Not a new idea.... ;-) I didn't find your Luther joke that offensive, since I really know exactly what kind of guy he was.... Still, I agree with him on the corruption of the RCC at the time, and had I been living then, I likely would have converted to Lutheran.
night walker re: my pic> ["you looked distracted though."] You could say that... the girl taking the pictures was absolutely gorgeous, and she kept trying to make me smile, which (if you've seen last year's picture) is NOT a good idea. "Distracted" is putting it lightly. :-) ["Actually you looked like those guys that would kick my desk and push me
against the lockers."] It's the hair; usually I wear it flat. And those AREN'T blond streaks in the front; it was the light.
Pokémon cards: BAD rip-off of Magic: The Gathering, dumbed down, and hardly near the show....
Doug> ["Kit and I think you like pretty good."] Yeah, I like fine. It's how I LOOK that bugs me. j/k.... o_O
Skippy> ["So feel free to ignore any flaming rant's o Bob..."] Especially flaming rants o' Almighty Bob. (Taking the bus with him in the morning is surreal, let me tell you....)
Mandolin> ["Deuce, I don't remember if I said it before... but it's great to have you back."] Thank you. :-) And sorry I forgot: congrats on the "Jane Eyre" part. What did you audition for?
** Deuce leaves **
Deuce - [neongenesis@curtain.cjb.net]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:17:16 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Christine> Demanding? Well, the last two times I checked, Jericho seems to enjoy demanding women (despite his continuing protests to the contrary). So bring it on :)
[Wonders what the "Lex" pic here will look like]
Pogo
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:11:42 PM
IP: fwnt.dw.dorseylaw.com
Wilek > oh, we always just schedule the orgies for when you're not around, since we were under the impression you were opposed to such things! ; )
Aaron > well, if I'm one of the judges, I may be a bit more demanding ... ::evil laugh::
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:53:10 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
GB>>>No you apology wasnt inadequate and I accept it
Pogo and Pistoff>>thanks for letting it simmer down
Xantahr>>Glad you liked it..yeah Bert and Ernie do deserve one but my fave has always been Cookie Monster
EVERYONE!>>I saw something scary today. The Fake Millenium's new year ball. It was made out of crystal in Ireland and it featured a repeating pattern:A seven pointed star with a circle in the middle!
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:52:44 PM
IP: ts004d27.orl-fl.concentric.net
Aaron walks in, head bowed.
A moment of silence for George C. Scott, who died either last night or this morning at the age of 71.
Thank you.
Wilek><<Someone once described this CR, in a most complimentary manner IMO, as being inhabited by inmates from a local insane asylum who are as likely to start a food fight, a bar brawl, or an orgy as have a rational conversation>> That was me. (Hides from a barrage of rotten fruit from the rest of the CR dwellers)
Doug> I dunno about websites, but I used to be a die-hard punisher fan. If you've got questions, I've (Maybe) got answers.
Hmmmm, if Pogo goes to G2K as Jerico, and I come as either Koz or Frank.... I guess we'd have to stick close to Crzy and fight like rats in a sack. It's a Demona's mate deathmatch.
No, wait. That won't work. If Crzy's judging, Pogo wins just by taking his shirt off. Crud.
Later.
Aaron wanders off, humming Aerosmith's "Deuces are wild"
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:41:39 AM
IP: ppp-56.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Religion debate> Gah, I won't touch this discussion. No offense, but with my (lack of) religious upbringing - Mom's a non-practicing Catholic, Dad used to be agnostic but now he's an atheist to (sometimes annoying) extremes - I think I'm going to stay out of any and all religious debates.
Zath> <<I wonder how difficult it is to make gargoyle wings.>> If you cape them, believe it or not, it isn't that hard at all if you know how to sew (or have help from someone who does). If they're extended, that's a whole different ballgame. If I don't go home for Halloween, I might just ask Mom to send me the Rosanna costume I wore to G99...
Skippy> <<Uh, guys. I mentioned our little discussion to the folks on the Bob Larson Fan Club newsgroup and listed the URL. So there is a good possibility that ol' Bob Larson himself might pop in here and throw out some pro-Bob rantings.>> What? Are you nuts? Oh, this is gonna get... er... interesting, to say the least. **Mandi pulls a bomb shelter out of nowhere just in case**
Random stuff> You know, being openly obsessed over a show pays off occasionally... half of my hall knows that "Now and Again" has taken the title of Mandi's-Obsession-Of-The-Month-To-Distract-Me-From-Work by now, and about a dozen people who wouldn't have bothered before are probably going to watch it tomorrow night. Heh.
Fanfic Progress> Well, I've posted 17 of the 18-part Buffy fic, "New Blood," and I'm halfway through part 18, then comes the epilogue... and then commences my month-long fic hiatus and clean-out. I might go back to "Of Caffeine Withdrawal and Other Crises", a transition fic after "Night Shift," to see what's working and what isn't; it's there to tie up a lot of threads and start some new ones - most prominently, giving Macbeth and Demona something to do in my fic cycle. The only thing that's working right now is the bits with Sarah deprived of any caffeine whatsoever, but that's only a comic sub-plot... *sigh*
Last but CERTAINLY not least - Deuce, I don't remember if I said it before... but it's great to have you back. *hugs*
Anyway, have to write a response paper (I have one every week, this isn't just a repeated excuse), so that's all...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:22:48 AM
IP: 144.175.18.15
Uh, guys. I mentioned our little discussion to the folks on the Bob Larson Fan Club newsgroup and listed the URL. So there is a good possibility that ol' Bob Larson himself might pop in here and throw out some pro-Bob rantings.
That's the kind of gimp he is, he hates it when anyone says anything bad about him and comes along to stir up trouble. So feel free to ignore any flaming rant's o Bob...
And don't worry about us being inundated with Fundies, Bob's semi-literate followers have enough troble just using their newsreaders :)
Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, September 23, 1999 09:23:16 AM
IP: uv1-48.ultravision.net
Ironwolf> I understand your thoughts and ideas of why a minister should not marry, etc. However, I think that you might be limiting yourself to thinking (and feeling) that you can only have one love in your life at a time. I guess it depends on which type and level of love that you are referring to. A love that would cause you to dedicate your life to serving God as a minister is not one of a romantic gesture as you would your spouse. Just as the love you have for your rents are not the same as the love you have for your child. This doesn't mean that you slight one for the other. Being a minister is not only a spiritual commitment, but also a career. It takes a special kind of guy or gal to be the spouse of a minister - as it does for policemen, firefighters, doctors, etc. (The spouse must be willing to "share" their husband/wife with John Q. Public and understand the commitments that they have made.) But I know for a fact that men and women can be 110% dedicated ministers and fathers/mothers at the same time and neither God nor the family lacks attention, dedication, and love. Besides, the married minister has the experience necessary to be able to counsel married couples - something that one who has never been married doesn't have.... and experience is sometimes more valuable then all of the academics in the world. :)
Starsinger> I'm certainly not trying to keep the pot boiling, but I do feel that your comment about Pistoff's "chip on his shoulder" was inappropriate. If I had posted something in my characteristic humor (and one that those involved are familiar with) and someone attacked me such as Pogo did, made a cheap shot at my name "PIST ON", made a juvenile gesture/comment concerning my ISP, insulted me and then came in and said, "oops my bad" and everyone thinks he's the hero because he apologized... (*blinks* excuse me, but he should have apologized - he's the one who started it. That's the least he could do.) then I don't blame PO one bit for his reactions... I believe most would have done the same. *shrugs* I am assuming your definition of having a chip on the shoulder is that of also defending yourself against unnecessary attacks. I recall Pistoff requesting Pogo to back off, drop it, etc. but Pogo kept coming back with insults and comments.... O_o
BTW, I also saw his "performance" at the Gathering...even have it on video... *shrugs* I fast forward thru that part.
Like I said, I'm not trying to stir things up again... just felt that your comment was unnecessary.
OK, since others have stupid customer stories, I guess Parents are some of my "customers" ;)
Stupid Parent Story:
5th grade boy chews on his marker... yes, 5th grade - not kindergarten *shakes head* and immediately has a dark blue mouth. (Markers are non-toxic) Idiot boy goes home, mom sees blue mouth, races back to the school threatening to sue because her precious and perfect son's mouth is permanently ruined by the ink.. teacher should have been more attentive, etc. She's screaming and yelling about his mouth being dark blue for years... yadda yadda... Nurse takes the boy into the bathroom, hands him a toothbrush and toothpaste... boy comes out with a NON-blue mouth. Do'h !! *rolls eyes* Stupid parent... doesn't bother to think of how to correct her own son's mistakes - blame the school system first.
In kindergarten - yes, I watch for markers and other items being placed in mouths - in 5th grade, I'm more concerned with what the boys are doing with their hands in their laps, scrunch down under their desks with a goofy grin on their faces. O.O
BTW, the mom never apologized and just walked out hugging her son.... *shakes head* hehehe... Jr. High is going to eat him alive *snickers*
Must run... so many young minds to warp and torture, so little time... *winks*
Denis> missed you, my love! See you later *hugs*
Jannie
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:32:40 AM
IP: 196-190.c.esc4.net
Hi all!!
Glad to see the flame war simmered down before it got too hot.
Televangelist rantings:I agree with Spike,people stupid enough to follow these people deserve to have cow bell tide around their necks,their not worth it!,there are more important problems in the world right now.(East Timor springs to mind,Thank goodness my fathers retired from the armed forces,he could be over there right now!)
JackaL:Hey there Jackal!:)can ya let me know when the new NIN album comes out?
Spacebabie:great Elmo death>:),personally I feel Bert and Ernie deserve to have a movie more than Elmo.
Mary Flanders : If you ever come to Davis, watch out for high school girls in short skirts carrying big sticks. I'm serious, the athletic girls at my school are like killer Amazons. This one girl who was on a feild hockey team that played my school's team got her finger hacked off by a stick during the game. That's right gargs and goyles. Her finger was HACKED off. Sadly they couldn't put it back on. o.O>>Ouchie!!
Robby:Today in English, somebody put together a stop motion claymation video titled "Barney Goes To Hell". Lotta fun.Sounded good but I thought Barney was Hellspawn anyway>:)
Ironwolf:nuke WGN chicago for dropping all the wb shows please>>Sounds good to me:)
**THE JOYRIDE**
Zak Hanson has been imobilized and the Joyriders are disscussing what to do with him
"I've got an idea"said Xanathar and ran to the back of the hearse comming back a couple of minutes later with one of the Hanson's Guitar's
"You guys hold him still,Pistoff help me stretch these cords out"said Xanathar
Pistoff stretched the guitar strings out as far as they would go and Xanathar placed the base of the Guitar firmly behind Zak's head
"NOOOOOOO!!!!" screamed little Zak realising what was going to happen.
"Make a wish"said Pistoff as he let go of one of the strings and then another and then another etc...until Zak's head resembled sliced cheese and was quite dead.
"Well thats the Hanson's accounted for,Who's next?"said Warpmind
**TO BE CONTINUED**
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:31:42 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
THIS DARN COMPUTER SENT IT TO FAST!
Digimon (cont)- If this show continues teaching kids about teamwork, and respect, as well as things a kid should know then it may become a good show.
The monsters don't supply a problem. While Batman throws stars at people and shows hitting and kicking to kids, a kid won't figure out how to through a 'fire ball' from his mouth, or use its body to through needles at giant teddy bears. This may be what they call safe violence.
Ugh...Every time I press Tab it posts this thing up. Sigh. Anyway. I think if Digimon is careful and stays on the right path it may actually be a good show kids can learn from, but can also enjoy adventure from.
That's my opinion and others may disagree, but I don't care, since I won't reply for two days.....:) I gotta go now....
Sarge
Sarge Abernathy
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:12:56 AM
IP: 209.198.65.194
I won't be talking much since my house is being constructed on. Already they have one whole half of the roof gone and a new bigger room is in place.
Comments:
Digimon: Although it does have a name similar to Pokeomn and it has an array of monsters like pokemon, the plot is different and it has some unusual qualities I haven't seen in cartoons much. Digimon is about seven kids that were choosen to save the Digimon world from Devimon. But the show isn't all cliche, it deals with issues kids have, such as Matt becoming a big brother, and it doesn't hide real life situations.
I actaully like this show, although Pokemon is still a fav. (Gargoyles is number 1 always). In the last episode yesterday it actaully has 'bathroom' humor and it also didn't hide the fact that boys are boys and girls are girls during the first time they had a real bath. I at first though that this is going to get a couple hundread parents mad that it would teach kids this. And I was ashamed of it too. But hiding kids from real life issues won't help them and they need to either be taught by parents or at least a tv show on how to handle them. Not real life issues like getting sucked into another world with giant monsters, but real life issues like brothers and sisters, boys and girls, and team work. Other shows like Batman, Superman,and action hero shows have grown up heroes. Kids don't need role-models that hurt people every day. ANd Pokemon only deals with it's 151 pokeomn and never explains real-life problems.
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:05:28 AM
IP: 209.198.65.194
Yeah, yeah, I know... double post.
Not much time, so I'll just get down to business right away.
Can anyone here refer me to someone who makes top quality customized novelty ID cards? I'm looking into acquiring one for a prank. Would be glad for any hints.
Later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 23, 1999 08:02:06 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
Hi, all... people alike.
Pistoff & Pogo (Hey, that almost sounds like the lead characters of a kids' show): Good thing you cooled off. Don't want no severing of extremities in RL here, do we?
GB: Aw, you're an ok guy, after all, it seems. I agree that Martin Luther's actions may have been slightly... excessive, but sometimes extreme actions are what is needed to create the desired effect. He made it.
By the way, as I see it, God is just like ordinary folks; he's moody, has a slightly twisted sense of humor... and enjoys getting drunk once in a while. Of course, when you've got divine powers, alcoholic stupor may have negative effects... like, say, the Thirties, or something.
Glad to see the Joyride is gaining ground again. Maybe soon I can get to update the site with more character descriptions and gather up the lates events. Say, what do you other Joyriders think about us selling the script to Hollywood? (Not the clone.)
Gotta go now, but I wanna end this with a semiquote:
"The world is but a stage, but why couldn't I get Tarantino to write my script?"
Catch ya later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 23, 1999 05:29:27 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
Well, the school seems to have worked out the dial-up problems, but now I seem to be getting sick, such is life... Several people (I think 3 but I'm not sure) got shot here yesterday. I'm not sure if it was actually on campus or just in the general area, but either way it's pretty freaky. In a way it's kind of ironic. Everyone's always saying how it's not safe to go out alone at night here (my roommates worry over the fact that I tend to make use of the local 24-hour grocery store at odd times of the night) and then this happens to a group of people in broad daylight, go figure.
Halloween> I don't know what I'm going to do, but I really want to dress up because I didn't the last 2 years and both times I ended up getting really depressed. I wonder how difficult it is to make gargoyle wings. Maybe I could dress up as my alter ego (as if my roommates don't think I'm nuts enough already).
SJ> sorry to hear about your computer troubles. My old computer (it's still in Texas) is over 4 years old now, but the only real problem it has is being slow and running out of memory.
Mandolin> <<I got the part I wanted in "Jane Eyre!">> Congratulations!
Wilek> <<Hm...perhaps you can get one of those cards that allows you to hook cable into your computer?>> That was actually an option when I got my new comp, but it was so expensive, I could have gotten a whole tv for the same price (not to mention I wouldn't want people kicking me off my own comp because they wanted to watch tv). Anyway, we now have a small set a friend is loaning us (we just got it the other day) because he and his roommate both brought one and each apartment only has one cable box. Unfortunately, now that we have something to watch, I've come to the conclusion that my roommates and I have completely different viewing tastes. I'm just hoping no one had a favorite show that goes up against X-Files. I know the show has been going downhill for a while (to the point where I often cheer more for Cancerman and Krycek than for Mulder and Scully), but I want to see the last season.
Green Baron> <<I don't knwo if they'll pay you back>> The way we have things worked out, they have to, one way or another. If they don't give me cash, then whenever we split more bills in the future, I get to get out of paying however much they owe me at the time. Either way, I'm not actually losing the money, but I'd rather have the cash to use on whatever I want.
Skippy> <<Just for kicks, I've been threatening to call up these DWJD folks, tell them some tale of demonic opression and go totally Linda Blair on their ass>> **LOL** Do it, Do It, DO IT!!! >: )
Scott Iskow> <<The question, then, is why do cartoons become formulaic?>> The people in charge would rather invest in more toy commercials to make a buck than writing talent to keep the project fresh.
Robby> <<"I've consolidated that gesture into this." -William Shatner, who after being given the Vulcan hand gesture responded with a certain one fingered gesture...>> That reminds me of a quote a friend sent me recently... "Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures... Remember, when someone annoys you, It takes 42 muscles in your face to frown BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack the idiot upside the head."
Pistoff> I'm really glad you liked the pictures. : ) As far as how fast I work compared to other people you've contacted, it all needs to taken in perspective. Many of them probably have jobs, families, and other major things that take up large chunks of time. On the other hand, I'm just a lazy, unemployed student (whose car is currently in another timezone so I couldn't go anywhere if I wanted to) so usually my only options are either do homework or draw, and since art is so much more fun (part of me wants to major in fine arts, but for some reason this makes another part feel guilty, I don't know why. It also makes another part of me worry about starving. I really should see an academic counselor because I recently realized I'm starting to really dislike the field I had intended to major in, so I've lost my only tiny scrap of direction.) the drawing usually wins out. An example of this is the fact that I didn't have time to study for my first midterm because I was awake all last night working on homework for another class because I had let my attention wander and I ended up doodling random faces in the margins of my textbook for an hour and a half when I should have been working on the week's assignment. I hate having to spend so much for books, but at least owning them means I can deface them to my heart's content. Some days I think I should leave my notebooks at home and take a sketchpad to lectures (I did the concept sketch of your pic in the margins of a notebook for one of my general education requirement courses).
Wow, that's probably more than you wanted to know. I guess I should go to bed now seeing as how I didn't sleep last night and I have an 8am class tomorrow. Bye for now.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 03:36:09 AM
IP: ppp-228-050.usc.edu
THERESA> Will I? Yes, that's the plan. Going as Jericho, probably, for the masquerade. And thank you for the compliment. <is very, very shallow deep down inside> :]
Pogo
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:40:03 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Warning: The contents of my name link incorporate highly concentrated insanity, and may cause brain malfunction and painful, injurious, and even fatal bouts of laughter. Read at your own risk.
Wilek
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:28:45 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Ok here it is the B5 quotes that I got a laugh from or made me think.
G'Kar to Lyta Alexander: 'Would you like to be conscious or unconscious during the mating?
I would prefer conscious, but I don't know what your...pleasure threshold is.'
Franklin: 'You're a pessimist.' Ivanova: 'I'm Russian. We understand these things.'
Londo about his wives: 'Do you think I married them for their personalities? Their personalities could shatter entire planets!' (He often refered to his three wives as Pestilence, Famine, and Death.)
G'Kar: 'The universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements - energy, matter and enlightened self-interest.
Ivanova: 'Why does my mouth always taste like old carpet in the morning?' Computer: 'Unknown. Checking medical log.'
'On your way back I'd like you to take the time to learn the Babylon 5 mantra: "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God. And if this ever happenes again, Ivanova will personally rip your lungs out".' (not just pretty words)
Londo: 'This is like being nibbled to death by...what are those Earth creatures called - feathers, long bill, webbed feet, go "quack"?' Vir: 'Cats.' Londo: 'Like being nibbled to death by cats.'
I have more, but I don't really want this too long a post...maybe another time.
Wilek- Sleep specialist? There are people who specialize in sleep?! Lucky people.
Pistoff- I used to sleep like a rock, but now it's like part of me is always awake and it keeps me from completely resting. Like this morning, I finally fell asleep and I had this dream (sort version: some was trying to shoot me) and in the middle of the whole thing I heard the alarm on my wrist-watch beeping. It didn't wake me up completely, the dream kept going until someone started their car and that woke me up.
Well night everyone.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:19:13 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net
**RP ACTION**
Corax runs breathlessly into Thailog's chamber, causing the big black gargoyle to look up from his copy of Evil Genius Quarterly and shoot the hacker a glare. "My lord," Corax mumbles, "I thought you should know that the Phalanx fired some missiles." "What?!!" Thailog roars, eyes glowing red as he leaps up out of his chair. He looks at his other allies, who are entering behind Corax. "We just found about it, sir," says Tyl. "Apparently they launched their assimilation bombs without getting an okay from us first. The Avatar shot them down before they could do any damage to Earth." "They did it without our orders," Thailog snarls. "We should break all ties with them immediately," suggests Asil. "If they can't be trusted, they're no use to us." "That might not be a good idea," says Zale. "Apart from the clone army of super soldiers Dr. Edison and that Alchemist fellow are working on, the Phalanx is the most powerful force we have on our side." "He's right," agrees Jerec. "Even my Imperial legions are decimated. Nipon still has one Eclipse-class Star Destroyer, but it is nothing compared to the Phalanx's strength." "I say we do nothing about this, Thailog," says Kharsus. "The Avatar's forces will be after the Phalanx now, let them fight one another while we stay out of it and keep building up our clones. With any luck, they'll kill each other off and save us a lot of work." Thailog frowns, then nods. "Very well, Kharsus," he tells the wizard. "That seems like the best way to handle this. Do not let the Phalanx know that we know they have betrayed us. We shall hope the Avatar can handle them before they become dangerous rivals to our plans." He then picks up his magazine and dismisses the other bad guy leaders, who all exit the room.
The display changes to the stairway beneath Area 51-A, which the Ravens are still climbing. Jammer continues to mutter curses as they walk up, a few of the others are doing the same. All have sweat staining their skin. "Doug, are these stairs ever going to end?" Stephanie asks. "We only have six more floors," Janice assures her. "Just keep moving, and we'll be out." Doug nods in agreement. "I tell you guys," Jaden growls, "after this, I promise, I am never again climbing stairs!" Boris and Gubio nod in agreement, Mist letting out a loud yowl. Suddenly Kitainia halts the party. "Did you just hear an explosion?" she asks. Keith looks down the stairway behind them, which is now echoing with a series of loud booms. "She's right!" he shouts. "The whole area is collapsing! Kincaid must be planning to trap us down here!" "We have to get to the top of the stairs!" screams Doug. "Run!" They immediately begin charging up the flights as behind them the base continues to shake and explode.
**RP WILL BE CONTINUED AT END OF POST**
Greetings. Figured I'd make a post tonight while listening to and watching Conan. (After what happened with John Stamos, Kit and I have decided that from now on unless the situation's dire, we are never missing that show! :) Unfortunately, there may not be much to talk about. <sighs> Hope I can find at least a few things.
Fanfic Progress: "Law Enforcement" is proceeding slowly, but it's coming along. Don't know when it will be finished (damn school!), hopefully soon. I'm currently just past the scene where I review the history of the Punisher for those readers who won't already know it when they look at the tale. I was unfortunately not able to find much data on him. My local comic store's back issues filing system is abysmal, and there's not too many Punisher websites around on the Net. So I've had to make up his history from what I know of it (supplemented by three Fox Spiderman episodes, a videogame, and a Dolph Lundgren film). Hope I can get most of it right, and still write a good story. <fingers crossed> If anyone can point me in the direction of a Punisher website Yahoo and Hotbot didn't know about, or provide some info about him for me that I couldn't get from the above sources, I'll be very grateful. :) In return, I'll give the person an honorable mention in the intro for the fic.
SOROW: <sighs> Your feeling is one I'm very familiar with. Wonder what is happening with TGS, if they know yet when we'll get new episodes. This wait is so tortorous. <shakes head> Oh well, I can bear it a while longer. Soon the end must come.
Wilek: I liked that particular Conan too. :) $ Anytime you want to find the Phalanx base and eliminate it is fine with me and Kit. We're going to let you and SJ handle that situation. We may participate on a small level if we get through with business at Area 51-A soon enough. (There's still a demon vs. paladin fight, our final confrontation with Agent Tau, and a re-enactment of a cool Invasion America battle scene ahead.) <grin> $
Pistoff: Thanks for the B5 bloopers. They were immensly funny. :) Glad your work seems to have picked up a bit lately even when you thought it wouldn't. Even though I was hoping for yoru feedback soon, still am. Oh well.
Coyote: <nods> We draw the line at dying our hair too. Good thing our costume shop sells the kind of dye that washes right out. Not to mention blue wigs. <grin> By the way, I read Rosanna & Rain. Good story, with excellent character moments and writing. Hated the anticlimactic ending, though, and hope that the couple will find some way around their "punishment." Other than that, good job from both you and Christine.
Sevarius Jr.: Ack, sorry to hear about your computer having seizures. Hope you can soon alleviate the situation with some home-repair, the right amount of discipline, and whatever else will work. :)
Nightwalker: I agree that this Chris guy sounds too good to be true. Wonder what his job is and how he's able to throw around so much money. The best advice I can give you on how to deal with him has already been said. $ Looking forward to your participation in the RP. $
Theresa: Thanks for the great recipe. Maybe I can arrange things so that one of Jadriel's friends ends up the subject of it in my fic saga. :)
TV Evangelists: I don't really have an opinion about them, though like most people I don't care for them that much. I also agree with the band Genesis about their actions and attitudes. That's all I can say, as I've never really watched a televangelist for a long period of time (I did watch half of a Schuler talk once- you seen one guy like him, you seen them all).
Firestorm: Congrats on that terrible job you were in. IMO those company jerks did not deserve a good honest worker like you. Good luck finding a new and much better job at some other place where they don't make you compromise your morality to increase their profits. (You'll need the luck. <sighs>)
Deuce: So you are Room Admin again? Great, Kit and I are glad to know that! :) Thanks for posting your school picture, Kit and I think you like pretty good.
Formulaic Cartoons: Better reasons than I could ever think up for this unfortunate trend have already been mentioned in here. <sighs> This is the main reason I don't like most of the stuff they have on these days. It's all predictable and thus uninteresting. Occasionally there's a bright spark of creativity and good writing (the first Metallo ep in Superman comes to mind) but those are few, far between, and quickly fade from memory when compared to what the rest of the show's eps pile at your feet. Gargoyles, Pinky and the Brain, and a few other animated cartoons I could name were never like this, I'm really sad they're gone. Oh well, at least Simpsons, Futurama, Reboot, and Batman Beyond are still around, and they're not that formulaic. Or at least, they haven't become so yet IMO. May they never get that way. <kneels in prayer> Same goes for TGS and my fics.
Green Baron: Good statements about Luther and the Reformation. I agree with SJ that you had no right to call him a crybaby, but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it (you did apologize, after all). I think the good things he did for all Christianity (ending corruption, bringing freedom into worship, etc.) very much outweigh any bad results of the Reformation or poor qualities of the man himself (though I also didn't like the bad things about Luther's philoshophy you mentioned last post).
Recent Catastrophes: Thank God that earthquake didn't hit Taipei too hard. I used to live there, and really like the city. The country too. Hope it can get some aid relief and soon get back on its feet. :)
Jackal: Yes, you do need to come in here more often! We miss you, man! Without you, this room almost feels sane! :)
And with that statement, I shall finish this. Good night, everyone. Hope you all have a good sleep.
**BACK TO RP**
"Haste!" Lathrop completes a spell, and the Ravens are all suddenly moving five times faster. With this new speed, they are easily able to outrun the explosions. Janice stumbles on the last flight and tells them to run on without her, but Tom and Elena ignore her cries and quickly scoop their former government liasion up and run on. They reach the first floor landing along with the others just as the last bit of stairway falls down. "We were worried," says Lieutenant Surge, who is waiting for them with the other Avatar stormtroopers. He sees that they are all alright, including his two men who were below with the Ravens, and sighs in relief. "Glad you're alive." "Yeah," Doug nods. "We beamed some mantis alien friend of yours back to the station, those two over there will fill you in." The two stormtroopers do so, and Surge nods. "Good, I'm glad the Ambassador's alright. Our shuttle is parked outside with several more of our men on guard. Shall we be getting back to it?" "As soon as we find Shauna and Shap," says Kit, moving toward the stairwell door.
In another part of the base, Shauna lowers her bow and sighs as the Deadly Seven attack and destroy Pastor John's tank. She had been planning to shoot at its fuel load with an explosive arrow, but is glad that Shogun's group intervened since she doubts even her adamantine-tipped darts could penetrate the tank's armored sides. Pastor John is flung out of the smashed vehicle to land at Shap's feet and Shauna quickly runs back to join her friend as Shogun makes his speech (see last post). "Thanks, pal," Shap smiles, drawing his holy avenger and stepping toward the corrupt maniacal UT street preacher. "I don't know how you came back to life, Pastor John, but I'm sending you away again right now." His nemesis answers him with a sneer. "The Lord brought me back," he declares. "You can't beat me, paladin. If you kill me, I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine." Shauna gives Shap a weird look. "Why is he quoting Star Wars?" Shap shakes his head. "I have no idea. Let's find out." With that he slashes his blade down and slices open the unresisting Pastor John's chest. Instantly both he and Shauna are flung back by an explosion of light, flame, and sound. They are knocked to the parking lot's asphalt, and as they get up they hear Pastor John laughing. Shap and Shauna gasp when they see he has transformed into a huge demonic creature with skeletal bat wings, harsh reptilian features, glowing red skin, and a general aura of evil. "Here's the reason you can't defeat me, sinners!" John shouts. "I serve a different lord now! No longer do I donate my energies to the worthless crusade of your sissy God!!! I am a spawn of Lucifer!!" Shap shakes his head. "Damn, I should have known this was going to happen." "Shut up," Shauna snaps, putting away her explosive arrow and replacing it with a blessed shaft. "Let's send this asshole back to hell." Pastor John laughs at them, raising palms covered in fire. "You wouldn't turn, sinners!" the abishai-preacher shouts. "Time to burn!!!"
**WILL BE CONTINUED, BUT FOR NOW RP ENDS**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, September 23, 1999 01:16:25 AM
IP: pool-207-205-148-218.dlls.grid.net
I'm still looking for beta-readers for my story. If you are interested, please either email me or post it here.
ironwolf -- From what I've heard, it wasn't WGN that dropped WB. The WB decided not to renew their contract with WGN. My understanding of this is that WB felt it would make a greater profit by forcing more stations to by it, other than just one that would be distributed by many major providers. The area I am in (central Iowa) is now without any networks that carry the WB. No networks here carry UPN either. You can't even get it with digital cable. The only way is with a satellite dish. Not that there's really anything I want to watch on UPN. But WB has several good shows, including Buffy, which is probably my favorite show that is still on the air. Unless someone picks up WB, I will be really pissed off. And pissing off fans is a massivly unwise thing for a network to do.
Pokemon -- I didn't mind the show, though I usually just ignored it, but with the card game now, I hate all things Pokemon on principle. The local comic and gaming store is now constantly inundated with a stream of little kids who are loud and annoying. Not only that, but when they have tournaments for Pokemon, they pretty much have to call all other events off, as they usually have at least fifty competitors, they fill up the entire game room. And between rounds they are all over the store. It is just so annoying. One of my friends has a shirt I would like to get. On the front it says "Gotta Squish Them All" and on the back is a picture of Pikachu with tire tracks over him.
As far as the falling quality of cartoons, I think there are three major problems with this. The first, is that we seem to be encouraging children to have a short attention span. Kids today don't seem to want to watch anything that would carry over into later episodes, so that leaves all forms of extended storylines in the lurch. This also makes it hard to do characterization as it would have to carry into later episodes to be any good. Kids want to see action, not characters. Or at least that is what the producers believe. another thing that leads to bad cartoons is that they are often taken away from the original creative team. This is not something that happened only on gargoyles. Last week, someone mentioned how the later episodes of the new series of Johny Quest sucked. Halfway through the making of the series, the creative team was yanked and a new one was provided. These aren't the only series that this has happened on either. Just look at Batman. The early episodes, before it was moved to WB kicked butt. Now it's mainly a beat-em-up show. The third thing is that they have to meet network standards and practices. This limits the type of stories that can be told. Dragonball Z was hurt by having to constantly refer to 'the next dimension' and the fact that we could hardly tell the difference betweed slightly hurt people and critically injured ones. Reboot's third season, which did not have to meet Saturday morning S'nP totally blew away everything that came before it. They didn't have to show uni-breasts and can actually show people getting hurt (e.g. Enzo's eye). Heck, two of the characters even refer to each other as 'lover' on a regular basis. That never would have happened on a network cartoon. There are probably other things as well, but these are the main ones that I can think of.
Thought of the Day
"Less is less. More is more. More is better, and twice as much is good too... Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right."
T. J. Viel - [hiddenagenda@rocketmail.com]
Ames, IA
Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:56:50 AM
IP: welch-roberts-187-24.res.iastate.edu
**JOYRIDE!**
[The terified Zac Hanson looks at the assembled bloodthirsty Joyriders after having killed his own brothers, before trying to make a break for it--and is intercepted by Pistoff, who uses his cattle prod to encourage the runtly Hanson to refrain from further escape attempts. Wilek: "Oh how fun this will be..." Wilek whips out a Klingon d'ktahg (oh however it's spelled) dagger and hogties Zac with his own intestines before leaving him to the nonexistent mercy of the other Joyriders...]
**END**
It would appear that the kids have been fighting again. :P j/k Looks like things have quieted down though (I hope...). :)
Robby> <<I've done a couple of those Pokemon pictures you requested, you should be getting them pretty soon>> Already? Wow. Thanks! ^_^ $<<Actually, originally, Black Tiger was going to be killed off the first day of the RP to show how ruthless the cyber-smurf was, but I all too quickly became attached to him.>> Ah. That's happened to me with more than one of my own characters (it's why This Ascension ended the way it did). :) $
Pistoff> <<Problem is, Mom usually does that to me when I'm chatting with a friend. Like with Jan--two minutes after I start chatting, Mom wants to use the phone.>> Ah. Well, that stinks. :/ Hope you get that second line sometime soon. <<Tildon had a room full of people who opened his mail..and if there was money in it, they'd keep that and throw the rest away...and if there was no money in it, they'd just throw it away without even looking at anything else.>> What...?! <grr> It's people like this who give Christianity a bad name. Unfortunately, these are the ones who tend to stay in the public eye. <sigh> Haggling customer> Didn't happen to be a Ferengi, did he? :P
Arthur Kraft> Welcome. Sorry you had to arrive in the middle of a flame war, but things seem to have quieted down. :) Now allow the CR administrator to divest you of your sanity, and we can be on our way. <<Hello, am just wondering when or if TGS is going to be on again.>> Probably sometime soon; I wouldn't be surprised if it came back this month or next (but I'm not on the staff, so I'm just guessing).
$Warpmind> <<It seems the interest in participation has slowed down.>> I noticed that! I wonder why that is...hm...$
$All RPers> When, in your opinion, would be a good time for the Avatar to discover the Phalanx base and begin the Big Fight? Just wondering. :) $
Delphi> <<great midi>> I thought so as well; as soon as I heard it, I had to have it. :) I wonder what movie or whatever it's originally from...
Spike> <<So, what's happening in YOUR neck of the woods?>> Nothing, as usual. I have to go out of state just to get a decent CD. :)
Christine> <<Well, we were overdue for the next tiff, weren't we? :P>> Well, insanity can cause some small amount of fractiousness among even the most tightly-knit clans. :) Someone once described this CR, in a most complimentary manner IMO, as being inhabited by inmates from a local insane asylum who are as likely to start a food fight, a bar brawl, or an orgy as have a rational conversation (for some reason, I always manage to miss the orgies). I completely agree. :)
Jewel> <<I got the President of Bryn Mawr College (aka Nancy J") to agree to write a grad school recommendation letter for me! Not only is she the prez, but she's a famous Dante scholar to boot (published and everything, and she was in a Vogue article on women in academia), so the English dept. at UVA will be drooling. I also managed to get one of the profs who called me brilliant after one class to write a letter for me.>> Kewl! Congratulations! ^_^
Green Baron> <<I expect God has a good sense of humor that is a little demented, like when he created Ross Perot :)>> Ross Perot: "I'm part weasel, part Ferengi!" :P j/k Hm...I am something of a student of insanity (after experiencing its blessings in here, I had to know more about it), and that comment is very interesting to me...hm...
Mary Flanders> <<This one girl who was on a feild hockey team that played my school's team got her finger hacked off by a stick during the game. That's right gargs and goyles. Her finger was HACKED off.>> Eek! I hope this was an isolated incident, and nothing like it ever happens again...
Night Walker> <<that was kewl. what was it called?>> Um...not a clue. I called it Evil Tidings (I often give my own names to MIDs I don't know the real names of); I have no idea what it's really called. I think it may be from a movie, but I don't know which one. <<It sounded like something out of a music box in a horror movie.>> I thought so too! Creepy little piece. <<Were do you people find these.>> It was embedded in the main page of www.brujah.com (great Vampire: The Masquerade site); I had to view the source code to find it... $<<I was thinking of doing an RP but I need you to do a starter for me in order to get to where I want, in the room. How is the death star battle room shaped anyway. and what wepons are allowed . Guns? telekenisis? magic? I'm whatching the battle from above and you have spotted me, thats what I wrote , trouble is , I don't really know what the smurf would do next.>> Er...the smurf is dead, and the Dark Star II is currently being assimilated by my team's Borg faction (worry not, they're the good guys). I'm not sure where the current important battle is taking place, although my forces are currently searching Egypt for a major enemy base. :) $
Theresa> <<Who was attacted by the part-time practicing vampire otherwise known as a medtech (routine blood work) this morning (Can we say nothing to eat from 8pm and NO COKES!!!).>> Ack. I have a thing about needles; you're a brave lass. o_O
Ironwolf> <<nuke WGN chicago for dropping all the wb shows please>> YEAH! WGN Chicago is where DirecTv's WGN network comes from, and THEYTOOKAWAYMYWBSHOWS! AAAAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:26:58 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
hi everyone hope every one is doing well trying to keep abreast on the topics
Quick two sense on marriage and ministry. As a Catholic I don’t agree, but not really because I am catholic. When you marry some one you love them (all right shut up all you wise crackers and anti romantics this is my soapbox), and when you love some one you put them first. A priest should put God first then his flock. His personal life goes low on the list of priorities. If you are married you put your loved one first (so I am an unpracticing romantic sue me), and everything else second. A married clergyman would have a conflict of interest wouldn’t he? Now I am not saying one religion is better or one way yada yada pc pc bull bull just showing my way of thinking. Any other people feel the same way. Any one wanna disagree?
Joy ride request >nuke WGN chicago for dropping all the wb shows please
Still moving later
ironwolf
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:51:03 PM
IP: host-209-215-9-186.cha.bellsouth.net
Gonna keep this brief, I have deadlines to meet and stuff... THe next 7 days are gonna be busy for me, I have to put out a comic page a day at least...
Pistoff and Pogo- I'm glad you two were able to calm down in a reasonable amount of time without things getting out of hand and without my or Deuce's intervention. However, since you two do have past history of not getting along with one another, it might be best for all involved if you two tried to ignore each other. Just a suggestion...
Elmo the movie- **shudder** DOn't get me wrong, I *like* Elmo, but his own movie? Eeek... Which reminds me. Today in English, somebody put together a stop motion claymation video titled "Barney Goes To Hell". Lotta fun.
Nightwalker- You kinda missed the window on the cyber-smurf battle. Just read the RPs, try to keep up with them, and come in whenever you think you have a reasonable opening. Most of us don't have huge plans beyond a day or two, so you don't have to worry much about screwing something up, we're all adaptable. CUrrently aboard the DARK Star 2, (Not the Death Star...) one of the main fighters, Black Tiger has revealed he is the son of my old RP character. I haven't explained how yet, and I won't tonight either due to time, but other than that, we're pretty much recuperating and I think waiting for the Phalanx battle to come to us... The simplest way in I think would be for you to barge in, ask Where's the Cyber-Smurf, only to be told you're a bit late... Otherwise, use your best judgement. (And don't make your character ridiculously powerful, other RPers hate that...)
Robby
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:46:32 PM
IP: spider-wb012.proxy.aol.com
Night Walker in regards to the crzy's that live here:
Jackel is passionate for Brittany Spears (So are some of the other males in this establishment). BTW did anyone besides me note that the winner of the Brittany Spears look alike contest was a cross dresser??
Pistoff has slight chip on his shoulder (what kind of wood I don't know) and his every handy cattle prod. We know you love us. You're still here.
Pogo looks absolutely wonderful without his shirt. (Yes I caught your Gathering Act are you doing a repeat for GY2K???)
Tempers flare and rise hot or cold, but we really are friends. And nothing usually lasts for long because one or both parties is usually willing to back down and the other is usually willing to accept and make peace.
Green Baron just how many things was the "German Crybaby" upset about. My understanding was he had a list of around a hundred things he was unhappy about. Some of it splitting hairs, but other things such a selling indulgences as major??
There was a new episode of Troopers on this mornings and the plot has picked up nicely. Anyone else see it??
Starsinger
Who was attacted by the part-time practicing vampire otherwise known as a medtech (routine blood work) this morning (Can we say nothing to eat from 8pm and NO COKES!!!).
So back to using my nostepinnde to ball my skeins of yarn.
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:14:58 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net
Presented for your pleasure a new erotic thriller for mature readers only: "Kaleidascope Eyes".
Viewpoint is everything.
Find it in the Adult Archive or ::click:: You know you want to.
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:09:58 PM
IP: client24095.atl.mediaone.net
Two more things.
Robby-I was thinking of doing an RP but I need you to do a starter for me in order to get to where I want, in the room. How is the death star battle room shaped anyway. and what wepons are allowed . Guns? telekenisis? magic? I'm whatching the battle from above and you have spotted me, thats what I wrote , trouble is , I don't really know what the smurf would do next. If you write something continuing my last RP then I'll continue that in my next post. that way we can say we RPed today. Is that okay.or do you need more details?
flame-I noticed the fight . Pistoff what I would do is just ignore his posts if they're as offensive as you make it sound. And calm down brother, You're just making it worse by making this continue. Just say sorry , but you cannot tolerate it any further and just end it at that. Apparently , this just started as a joke or rant and offended one person and kept going, this is not needed. Put old grudges aside and learn to get along. Pogo , I've never seen you around here, but this is a bad note to start on . You're more than welcome to come here , but please, don't fight. It doesn't solve anything.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.co,]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 08:55:44 PM
IP: proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net
Just three short replies, longer post later , I promise.
First of all I want to say this-did no one go to the bjork site and see that the demon known as brittany is trying to better her? I am speechless. Even out of curiosity no-one looked?
Deuce-your picture isn't that bad , alot better than mine. you looked distracted though. Actually you looked like those guys that would kick my desk and push me against the lockers. lol.I swear you do. You look like this one kid that I knew who would make fun of gargs. wierd.
Wilek-that was kewl. what was it called? It sounded like something out of a music box in a horror movie.Were do you people find these. My webtv loaded that up in less than ten seconds.
night walker - [goliath01hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 08:34:19 PM
IP: proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net
Word of advise: If you ever come to Davis, watch out for high school girls in short skirts carrying big sticks. I'm serious, the athletic girls at my school are like killer Amazons. This one girl who was on a feild hockey team that played my school's team got her finger hacked off by a stick during the game. That's right gargs and goyles. Her finger was HACKED off. Sadly they couldn't put it back on. o.O
Mary Flanders
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:45:41 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
**GB takes out a sword and hacks up DisConnects family**. He is responsibel for the 2x post. I know it!!
Green Baron
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:38:46 PM
IP: 98c98beb.ipt.aol.com
The Green Baron steps in a little nervously seeing a few people looking at him angrily.
Christine> Well, I guess we were headed for a tiff, and one I'm partly to blame for.
Sevarius Jr> I am sorry for my joking reference to Martin Luther as a German crybaby. It actuallys temmed from a joke back in highschool when someone propsed selling indulgences as a fundraiser, which my repsonse was that "the last time we did that, some German crybaby took half our Church". I should have been more careful about the use of the joke, especially when it alienates and offends a friend of mine. For the record I do not despise Luther. I actually have very mixed feelings about him. While I think he was courageous in rightfully challenging corrupt practices by a herectic-run Church, I also felt soem of his refroms went too far, including in his insistence on scriptum solorum and his beleif in faith without good deeds. Also other events in his life diturb me like how he sided with the German princes in a peasant uprising or his anti-semitic views, though that was frequent for his time and for Germany. I also began to develop a new respect for him when I learned that he continued to receive Reconcilliation and had a devotion to Mary (though it saddens me that his successors didn't keep it). In retrospect, it was wrong of me to make such a remark at someone who I do not dislike and actually hold a certain respect for him (as well as John Wesley). Just because I do not consider the Reformation on of my favored moments in history, I shoudl not attack the messenger. if anything I owe him gratitude for awakening Mother Church to internal problems and changin its values, practices, and leadership, changing the Office of Pope form that of a covetous warlord to the embodient of love, compassionate conservatism, and brotherhood, as well as a desire to heal old wounds among so many enemies the Church has made. In retrospect, I wish I never called Luther that.
As for your questions:
<<Do you like all the stories now about the former Pope being a Nazi sympathizer? >> My main problem is that these storeis are false. He may have been publicly silent about the Holocaust though he had covert efforts that allowed 300,000 Jews to escape from Poland to Israel. In fact, Nuncio to Turkey, Roncalli (later Pope John XXIII) led the halfway point at Turkey. If accustaions were true, I would not be upset.
<<Do you like that Cardinal O'Conner is apologizing to the
Jews for the persecutions committed against them by the Catholic Church?>> I think it is long overdue and Cardinal O'Connor is one of my favorite clerics. Anti-semitism is one of the Church's greatest scandals, and I only wish we could have started healing these wounds centuries ago. I am glad much of the healing has started now though, since John paul II can take credit for it.
<<church that had (and still does have) the reputation of being tyrannical. As a result, I can worship God as a Protestant, thanks in part to him.>>
I have no problem with teh Church's authoritarian structure and I think it shows a proper separation of Church and State. It reminds me of an old saying: The last time the Church was a democracy we voted for Barabas.
I would also agree that as a Protesatnt, you shoudl be proud to see him as your founder, esepcially since if not for him, your founder would be John Calvin,a nd regardless of whatever disagreements I have with Luther, I prefer him 10,000% to John Calvin.
Once again, I do apologize.
Coyote> I'm glad you found my comment funny, though still I regret saying it.
Pogo> You are correct, though I have never seen priests as intermediaries per say. My crack about Luther was more of a mean spirited joke. My opinion on Gregory X is much lower than that of Luther, and I am glad no DeMeidcis hold any influence today and St. Francisco Borgia redeemed his family a century later.
Pistoff and Pogo> I hope you don't become like Matt and Gorebash, Hudson and PFay, or Arsi and Jackal. I think both of you are pretty decent fellows, too, as are most fo the others I mentioned. I just hope this flame war doesn't turn into the Springfield tire fire.
Warpmind> I expect God has a good sense of humor that is a little demented, like when he created Ross Perot :)
Skippy> If America's Christian leadership were a more organized group, reforms can be made, but it's very autonomous even within dnominations so reforms would have to come from exposing crooks and making it more difficult to cheat using God as a shield, like allowing religious tax breaks for non-profit purposes and such. In New Olreans some of the Chrcuhes where the lead cleric answers to no other human get all sorts of Real Estate deals with contributions and have very nice homes while many of their congragtion are not very well off. It's a pity accounatbility laws violate the First Ammendment.
Spacebabie> I also apologize for offending thee as well. My main issue with married clergy is a personal discomfort I have with the idea of married priests in my own Church. I imagine you find the cleibate priesthood a bit odd. I imagine that the vast majority of Protestant clergy can serve God properly and rasie a family, though I fear I will never understand how. I know my apology is probably inadequate, though.
Jewel> I was out of line with my joke. Mea culpa! Mea culpa! Mea maxima culpa! I also should do something about what predjudices I do have and work on that as well
on a side note about Easter and Christmas, in New Orleans youd definitely know when Lent starts :)
Buhbye all!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:36:55 PM
IP: 98c98beb.ipt.aol.com
The Green Baron steps in a little nervously seeing a few people looking at him angrily.
Christine> Well, I guess we were headed for a tiff, and one I'm partly to blame for.
Sevarius Jr> I am sorry for my joking reference to Martin Luther as a German crybaby. It actuallys temmed from a joke back in highschool when someone propsed selling indulgences as a fundraiser, which my repsonse was that "the last time we did that, some German crybaby took half our Church". I should have been more careful about the use of the joke, especially when it alienates and offends a friend of mine. For the record I do not despise Luther. I actually have very mixed feelings about him. While I think he was courageous in rightfully challenging corrupt practices by a herectic-run Church, I also felt soem of his refroms went too far, including in his insistence on scriptum solorum and his beleif in faith without good deeds. Also other events in his life diturb me like how he sided with the German princes in a peasant uprising or his anti-semitic views, though that was frequent for his time and for Germany. I also began to develop a new respect for him when I learned that he continued to receive Reconcilliation and had a devotion to Mary (though it saddens me that his successors didn't keep it). In retrospect, it was wrong of me to make such a remark at someone who I do not dislike and actually hold a certain respect for him (as well as John Wesley). Just because I do not consider the Reformation on of my favored moments in history, I shoudl not attack the messenger. if anything I owe him gratitude for awakening Mother Church to internal problems and changin its values, practices, and leadership, changing the Office of Pope form that of a covetous warlord to the embodient of love, compassionate conservatism, and brotherhood, as well as a desire to heal old wounds among so many enemies the Church has made. In retrospect, I wish I never called Luther that.
As for your questions:
<<Do you like all the stories now about the former Pope being a Nazi sympathizer? >> My main problem is that these storeis are false. He may have been publicly silent about the Holocaust though he had covert efforts that allowed 300,000 Jews to escape from Poland to Israel. In fact, Nuncio to Turkey, Roncalli (later Pope John XXIII) led the halfway point at Turkey. If accustaions were true, I would not be upset.
<<Do you like that Cardinal O'Conner is apologizing to the
Jews for the persecutions committed against them by the Catholic Church?>> I think it is long overdue and Cardinal O'Connor is one of my favorite clerics. Anti-semitism is one of the Church's greatest scandals, and I only wish we could have started healing these wounds centuries ago. I am glad much of the healing has started now though, since John paul II can take credit for it.
<<church that had (and still does have) the reputation of being tyrannical. As a result, I can worship God as a Protestant, thanks in part to him.>>
I have no problem with teh Church's authoritarian structure and I think it shows a proper separation of Church and State. It reminds me of an old saying: The last time the Church was a democracy we voted for Barabas.
I would also agree that as a Protesatnt, you shoudl be proud to see him as your founder, esepcially since if not for him, your founder would be John Calvin,a nd regardless of whatever disagreements I have with Luther, I prefer him 10,000% to John Calvin.
Once again, I do apologize.
Coyote> I'm glad you found my comment funny, though still I regret saying it.
Pogo> You are correct, though I have never seen priests as intermediaries per say. My crack about Luther was more of a mean spirited joke. My opinion on Gregory X is much lower than that of Luther, and I am glad no DeMeidcis hold any influence today and St. Francisco Borgia redeemed his family a century later.
Pistoff and Pogo> I hope you don't become like Matt and Gorebash, Hudson and PFay, or Arsi and Jackal. I think both of you are pretty decent fellows, too, as are most fo the others I mentioned. I just hope this flame war doesn't turn into the Springfield tire fire.
Warpmind> I expect God has a good sense of humor that is a little demented, like when he created Ross Perot :)
Skippy> If America's Christian leadership were a more organized group, reforms can be made, but it's very autonomous even within dnominations so reforms would have to come from exposing crooks and making it more difficult to cheat using God as a shield, like allowing religious tax breaks for non-profit purposes and such. In New Olreans some of the Chrcuhes where the lead cleric answers to no other human get all sorts of Real Estate deals with contributions and have very nice homes while many of their congragtion are not very well off. It's a pity accounatbility laws violate the First Ammendment.
Spacebabie> I also apologize for offending thee as well. My main issue with married clergy is a personal discomfort I have with the idea of married priests in my own Church. I imagine you find the cleibate priesthood a bit odd. I imagine that the vast majority of Protestant clergy can serve God properly and rasie a family, though I fear I will never understand how. I know my apology is probably inadequate, though.
Jewel> I was out of line with my joke. Mea culpa! Mea culpa! Mea maxima culpa! I also should do something about what predjudices I do have and work on that as well
on a side note about Easter and Christmas, in New Orleans youd definitely know when Lent satrts :)
Buhbye all!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:36:47 PM
IP: 98c98beb.ipt.aol.com
Pogo> *applauds* That took guts. Thank you for defusing the situation; I was afraid I might have to step in as CR Admin for the first time in months.... Thumbs up. Oh, and a tip for future reference: if you're going to make threats regarding IP addresses... mask your own IP. You're a lawyer?
jewel> ["I'm a firm believer in 'I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it)"] YEAH! Go Voltaire! I'm thinking of getting a t-shirt with a big-ass blue ribbon on the front, and that phrase on the back. DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!!!!
Ahem.
** leaves **
Deuce - [whatever@curtain.cjb.net]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:21:58 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Hey, all. I just noticed all the positings on religions and stuff. hoo, what a time for me to get behind in the CR...
Anywho.
Televangelists--They scare me. They always have. Maybe because my mom (aka the psychopathic b) was big into Jim Bakker and the 700 Club when I was little. Then she went wacky and joined a bunch of way out there churches, dragging me along with her. That said, there's a *reason* why I'm not a member of any organized religion--if someone asks me what I am, I tell them I'm nominally Christian (I celebrate Christmas, but have to be reminded when Easter is coming around, and haven't willingly stepped foot in a church in over 2 years).
That said, let's move on to the religious "debate": Everyone, please. *Please*. Refraim from attacking someone else's religion. I'm not trying to stiffle anyone's 1st amendment rights (I'm a firm believer in "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it)--but belittling someone's religion, in any way, is a below-the-belt shot. Faith isn't something that can be argued against. Yeah, a lot of sh*t has been pulled by various religous figures, but still. It gets people upset, because faith and belief is such an integral part of how a person sees and defines themselves--by attacking someone's faith and religion, you can be seen as attcking part of *them*. This even if someone is only nominally a religion--it will still get them up in arms because it's a sensative area.
OK. Preaching over. (Pun intended)
Guess what! I got the President of Bryn Mawr College (aka
Nancy J") to agree to write a grad school recommendation letter for me! Not only is she the prez, but she's a famous Dante scholar to boot (published and everything, and she was in a Vogue article on women in academia), so the English dept. at UVA will be drooling. I also managed to get one of the profs who called me brilliant after one class to write a letter for me. I'm in the process of writing my personal statement now, and firmly stating that my purpose in academia is very clear: to become an academic gadfly, telling others when tey've lost sight of reality in an attempt to out-anaylze everyone else (only phrased in more genteel terms). They'll either love me or have a nice little bonfire with my application. All I have now are the GREs--and if I study my @ss off and do well, I might stand a chance at getting in (my grade stank to high heaven, thanks to various illness, injuries, and me being a lazy-ass who wanted out).
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 05:55:28 PM
IP: 207-172-74-51.s51.tnt2.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
Know what? All you other folks are right. We're being ridiculous; *I* am being ridiculous.
I apologize. No sarcasm.
(And no, I haven't tried to get anyone banned or report anyone to anyone. Logged it, sure, out of genuine concern, in case it became necessary to alert an ISP or local authorities in Coos Bay, Oregon. Looks like it won't be, so that's that.)
I really WAS irked by the false suggestion (however smartassed as opposed to seriously meant it may have been) that a disgraced televangelist was racist too, but I could have said so nicely. Because there's some history, though, between me and P, I was sarcastic and didn't have to be.
So, my bad!
Sorry, really, to P and one and all! :)
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:52:22 PM
IP: fwnt.dw.dorseylaw.com
PISTOFF> I'm lauging so hard IRL that I'm pissing myself! Glad to know that, contrary to your earlier statement, you appear to care a very great deal about my opinions -- and post your "caring" in posts several times longer than the opinions themselves. And as for IRL: You just do what you gotta do, k? Believe me, I'm not looking for trouble, but your post was clearly an IRL threat earlier, despite your later insinuation that it wasn't. Take care now.
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:40:33 PM
IP: fwnt.dw.dorseylaw.com
Zath><<Son of a Creature Man>> LMSAO
Pistoff> Sorry you're having a bad week, both here and IRL. Just remember, there're people having a worse one. Trust me, she's a client of ours.
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:02:43 PM
IP: ppp-142.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Pogo: <Your post has been logged for forwarding to your ISP. :) :)> What exactly the hell is that supposed to mean? You expect me to be worried about this? If my ISP does anything to me, I'll just switch to another one. They all cost the same amount of money, here. You're thinking of screwing with me IRL just because we're arguing? You're pathetic. I don't know why I even bothered with you. We both said what we had to say, and I'm ready to move on to something else--but now you're implying that you're gonna try to have me banned or something? I would recommend against it. You do something to me IRL, and you'd better pray that our paths never cross at a future Gathering.
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:02:07 PM
IP: wire-16.koalas.com
Pistoff> I'll see if Noelle will loan you her stupid stick, ok? *snickers*
Spacebabies> if the students refuse to follow the instructions and directions of the authorities, then THEY ( the students) are choosing to not receive an education. Nazi ways? *blinks* Apparently you haven't been in a corporate building.... probably 95% of the corporations require name tags and refusal to wear one results in termination of employment - so does this also mean that if the employee refused to follow the directions of the authorities a.k.a. Bosses - the the corp. is denying the employee a job?
The same principle applies. There are reasons for name tags being worn... we may not always know what they are and there may be some pretty stupid ones - but there are appropriate steps to take care of those matters.... But, since that is the current rule of the campus - then it is the student's choice on whether or not to complete their education. No one is denying them the opportunity.
Thanks for listening to my opinion *smiles*
Jannie
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:54:30 PM
IP: 196-182.c.esc4.net
Begin Elmo Death:
Tumbles into the room and drops the new Tcile guitar Elmo doll on the gound.
"Stand back everyone"
Elmo begins to sing "ABC"
Spacebabie grins evil and presses the detonater
End Elmo Death
Begin multiple Rants
I'm sick of this people on the today show or Rosie O'donell shows a new toy on their shoe and BOOM its the hot toy of the season. Parents turn into raving luntic vultures will to rip out eachothers throughts so their children will have that Toy. I mean do the kids really want it that badly? the childrend are usally at school when today or Later today is on, and those who are too young to attend grade school dont really care if they have the it toy.So what if their kids doenst get it do other parents tease the mother of the child who didnt recieve the It toy?
NAME TAGS In Orange County schools the highschool students have to wear photo I'd or they are not alloud inside the schools. Hello? Is it worth denying their right to an education becasue they don't want to give up to their nazi ways?
END Mini rants
BUFFY was pretty cool last night
Pogo and Pistoff relax ok
GB>Itook a little offense about your post in "German Crybaby" and the fact that Ministers cant be too devoted to God if they end up getting married.
I was baptised as a Lutheran and My Grandparents were ministers of the Salvation Army.
Breaths in Deeply and departs.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.a
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:21:25 PM
IP: ts004d22.orl-fl.concentric.net
I definitely DON'T have time for this, but I don't care....
Pistoff> ["I had to include Jim Bakker (remember, that's spelled with two "K's" because three would be a little too obvious)"] *ROTFL* That's too funny... the Poster Soon-to-be-Formerly known as Breathing notwithstanding. Oh, what's your ICQ #? Mine's 31838138.
Voyager blooper: I'm sorry, I can't get you a copy. It was at a friend's house about three years ago, we didn't save the file, the site has since dried up. You can find a transcript in "The Making Of Star Trek: Voyager", though.
Pogo> ["Your post has been logged for forwarding to your ISP."] Uh-oh. That sounded like a threat. *clears the path Pistoff will likely use to enter the room*
Has anyone heard the new Matthew Good Band CD yet? ("Beautiful Midnight", I think the name is.) It's been getting glowing reviews from all corners I've seen, I was wondering if anyone had personal opinions.
New NiN disc: Sounds quite interesting; I think I'll give it a spin... might even buy it.
Anyway, I spent WAY too much time here for my own good. Talk to y'all in a couple hours.
** handing Pogo an asbestos suit (he'll need it), Deuce leaves. **
Deuce - [cinderblockprince@curtain.cjb.net]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:08:51 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
oh God, I can't spell.. anyway, ya know what I mean...
Anonymous
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:03:49 PM
IP: 168.28.72.156
°°°°°Jackal steps in pouting°°°
::Sigh:: I'm unable to get the new NiN album, I gotta wait til Friday. :o(
Anywayz, I was rewading last week's messages, and of course the frist thing I saw was "had better perform oral sex on me". I really don't give a crap if the damn thing is thinking, I have no interest in getting it. Then, I really have no interest in an thing like that. Though I do dig PS's Resident Evil..., it's great when you're trippin balls!! :o)
Ohh... I forgot to say hey to everyone..
HEY!!!!!
How are yall doin?!?? I miss yall soo much, I really do need to come in here more often!
Hey Sorow! I still remember..., do you remember?? NO???!!
Can I be your boyfriend? Pleeassee!!
Talk to yall later, byes!!
JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:02:55 PM
IP: 168.28.72.156
Well, we were overdue for the next tiff, weren't we? :P
Coyote > thank you, and thanks for the opportunity to write it! Writing someone else's well-established characters is always a challenge.
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:15:54 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
PISTOFF> Your post has been logged for forwarding to your ISP. :) :)
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:49:01 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Televangelist rantings> I would say that my biggest problem with this branch of Christianity isn't the abundance of thesnake oil salesmen. It's the lack of people trying to stop it. The folks in the Bob Larson Fan Club have made efforts to get the word out what a slimeball Bob is, but so few Christians are willing to rock the boat. Only Hank Hanegraff (the Bible Answerman) has publicly came forward to denounce Bob. Most of Christianity just ignores him in hopes that he will go away...
It's just the true hipocracy this represents. Ministers are forever on their pulpits calling for a revival of America's morality, but have nothing to clean their own houses. Despite how much I respect Billy Grahamn, I find it hipocritical that he has never tried to get America's Christian leadership to reform itself.
This is the exact sort of thing that "German crybaby" Martin Luther was railing against. Excessive decadance in the Church leadership, the aqusition of wealth at the expense of their followers, and living the exact sort of life that lead Jesus to throw the moneychangers out of the temple with the business end of a bullwhip.
Nowadays, the popular Christian catchphrase is What Would Jesus Do? Too bad nobody really thinks about what that would mean...
BTW: Click my name link to see some of the weird things we have done to Bob Larson's face :)
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:24:00 AM
IP: uv1-44.ultravision.net
Regarding the Bakkers, Tiltons and other modern religious hypocrites:
Who cares? They've all dug themselves into their own personal holes. Anyone with a half a brain can see right through them. Anyone who can't should be standing out in a field going "Moo."
There's earthquakes in Taipei and shootings here in Ft. Worth and so much more going on in the world that we could be talking about.
So, what's happening in YOUR neck of the woods?
Spike
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 09:33:16 AM
IP: ppp19-65.ght.iadfw.net
**enters from Aimee Major's CR wearing an asbestos suit. Pulls out a candle from his pocket and uses the ambient heat in the room to light it, switching out the candle currently in the holder**
First thing's first ...
Pistoff and Pogo: All right, guys, break it up! It's quite warm enough in here already without adding to it, thank you. As far as the original topic that started this, no, my opinion of those who dislike the Bakkers was not lowered by Pissy's comment about the extra K ... if you ask me, glorified trailer-trash was exactly what the Bakkers were ... I don't know any woman outside of a whorehouse that uses a spackle knife to put on their makeup as Tammy Fae (geez, the *name* should be a tipoff!!) obviously does. So give it a rest, guys, please. Or if you want to continue, do it privately. Honor the woman who presented us this Tea Table of Peace!!
**looks briefly to the candle, then sits in the massage chair, removing the helmet of the suit**
And now it looks like I might've double-posted by accident. If it does, I apologize.
GB: Unlike some of the other Protestants in the room, I for one didn't take offense to the "German crybaby" remark. Considering that I had a pastor ... a *Lutheran* pastor ... in the past who tried his hand at stand-up comedy in a church talent show who used Luther as a joke ...
Luther found himself sitting under a tree during a thunderstorm, communing with the Lord. He looked up and said, "Father, I think I'm going to become a priest."
And the Lord said unto Luther, "If you don't get out from under that tree, you're going to be a friar."
So no biggie.
Christine: You already heard me say this when you were editing the story, but I'll say it again in public ... excellent work, as always.
Deuce, re: Voyager blooper: Yep, that definitely sounds like something Paris would say. :)
Fire Storm: No chance of getting someone better, not until the front office takes off the blinders and realize that this guy's "work" has at one time resulted in the computer systems of all of the Cleveland area stores going down at once. This guy knows as much about maintaining a system as I know about neurosurgery, if you ask me.
Kitainia: How true, how true ... it's a fact of life that into everyone's lives a little idiocy must fall ...
Gyre: Nice list.
Warpmind: Uhmm, the good Doctor and Pogo have nothing in common ... Pogo is an authentic figure in the fandom, and was in fact at the last Gathering.
Heather, re: AFJROTC meet: Hope ye do well.
**sits back in the massage chair, shivering now.** Yeesh, I hate when RL interferes ... it's as cold as a meat locker in my house right now. **fixates on the candle**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 09:17:59 AM
IP: modem33.i-is.com
Goodmorning everyone
Wilek>>great midi
Pistoff>>thankyou for posting that link-I had not made to to last weeks CR archive as of yet and those are great bloopers-oh and I sent you an email
>>catch everyone later
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 08:53:56 AM
IP: 216.190.240.34
Hi all!!
Deuce re Voyager blooper:*ROTFLMAO*,I have to see this:)
Fire Storm:Yeah, walking out took guts. BUT I was putting up with WAY more that I should have, so that made it easier. One thing to remember before you walk out, though: Make sure that you have a source of income. BTW, where do you work?>>I agree,you should always try to get another job before you quit your existing one(Dole money sucks and getting another job before you quit also stops you're soon to be ex employer saying negative things about you),as for my job,I work part time in a grocery supermarket as a storeman,I take the deliveries,write up the invoices and keep the storeroom tidy but I also do shop work as well,shelf stacking customer enquires that sort of thing,It's by no means a glamorus job but it pays the bills.
Warpmind:It seems the interest in participation has slowed down. I posted last event, who's next? C'mon, throw me a bone here, will ya? After all, Hanson are still alive, albeit locked in Cthulhu's trunk.>>Okay I'll chuck something together(I'm feeling twisted today>:))
**THE JOYRIDE**
The Joyriders discussing where they are going to go next until Warpmind reminds everybody about the Hanson kids in the back of the cthulhu's trunk.
"Hey yeah,we forgot about them"said Pistoff
"I'll go grab them"said Wilek who dragged the Hanson kids from the back of the hearse to the waiting Joyriders.
"Okay here's the deal"said Xanathar to the Hanson's,"you three fight each other to the death and the last one left alive gets to go free"
The Hanson lunged at each other,all traces of brotherly love forgotten and after half an hours furious battle,little Zak Hanson emerges as the winner.
"I won!,I won!"shouted Zak "I get to go free"turning to face Xanathar.
"I lied!" said Xanathar grinning as the Joyriders surronded the now terrified Zak Hanson.
**To be continued**
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 08:14:29 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
Beast Machines & Rusty > For me than some of the rest of you Transformers and Beast Wars fans, I liked Beast Machines. I don't agreed on everything that happened or I saw in the episode but I liked it. And if only they brought in Silverbolt... **looks at Robby and smiles evily** He knows that I'm talking about.
On Rusty... it was cute. Rusty kinda reminds me on my cousin Brianna but..**shudders** Nevermind.
Pogo > Don't I know you from somewhere ? Like from the Gargoyles chat or something ?
I'm going to be too this week, I got AFJROTC Drill team pracice, because I got our first meet on October 16th, Two weeks from now is the Bear Ball which is the only dance freshmen are allowed to go to, so I'm going to that.
And I'm trying to get my microphone to work so Martin...Kaioto**blushes** and Lexy can voice chat to me.
Well it's time for me to get my "education". See ya.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 07:12:49 AM
IP: abd29239.ipt.aol.com
Hi, all.
The Martin Luther vs. The Pope debate: I respect both. I am raised as a Lutheranean, but still, I hold the Pope in high regard. I am among the first to point out that even though the Catholic Church has many "dark, hidden secrets" to worry about (and a lot of misconduct in their past, like the Crusades), Catholisism has a lot of fine qualities that Lutheraneans lack. However, now that I've gotten that point through, allow me to emphasize another point: whenever someone makes rough jokes about religion, I'm all ears. I like humor, and what better "victims" than religious figures? I believe there's a Callahanian saying, that when looking at the world, it is obvious that God is most fond of rough humor.
On to the next subject:
Pistoff: Whoa, dude! Cool down, cool down, we don't want a repetition of what happened last time, do we? Remember the sociology major, I think he was? Dr. Nguyen, or something? You might be facing another one. Careful, dude. Oh, and maybe we can include Pogo in a Joyride, once we're done with Hanson?
JOYRIDERS: It seems the interest in participation has slowed down. I posted last event, who's next? C'mon, throw me a bone here, will ya? After all, Hanson are still alive, albeit locked in Cthulhu's trunk.
Pokémon: Hmmm... we haven't got those in Norway yet... those either... Hmmm... I'm expecting a sword in the mail any time now... and I think I can find the right person to ask about buying shows for one of the Norwegian TV channels... Hmmm... Ooops, too much info. Forget I mentioned that, ok?
Well, gotta finish the posting off, I'm pretty much drained anyway, and I gotta check for some software I need, too.
Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 06:26:13 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
Hello, am just wondering when or if TGS is going to be on again. I really love reading these TGS stories and would like to see more of them.
Thanks
Arthur Kraft - [earthurk_iii@yahoo.com]
TN, USA
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 05:53:01 AM
IP: clv-c-206-107-127-102.intermediatn.net
Okay, Pogo, you want to keep this public, fine. Everybody will witness this. I'm sick and tired of your attitude. You think you can just jump in here out of nowhere and take a potshot at me and get away with it? Yeah, right.
You just said you have no problem staying away from me. Obviously that's not the case. Man, you remind me so much of my dumb asshole customers. You apparently don't have brains enough to leave me alone. Well, you know what? Since you insist on attacking me in a public manner, you'd better be ready for a savage public beating. I don't give a rat's ass about your opinions. But I react violently when attacked. I don't take shit from anybody, least of all you.
I don't know what your problem is. The first time you ever said anything to me, it was an attack. The last time you spoke to me, you called me an idiot. I don't forget things like that.
If somebody makes a trivial comment that I don't happen to agree with, I usually just shrug it off. But it looks like that's impossible for you. Are you just anal? Or is your life so bankrupt that the only way you can feel as if your life has meaning is to pick a fight over a single trivial comment? Are you one of these people who just sifts through pages of material, looking for one word that will offend you? Possibly not...but that's certainly the impression you're giving.
I'm a decent guy. I'm fair. When people are nice to me, I can be the best friend they have. I'd give 'em the shirt off my back. Many people in here can verify that. But when somebody comes out of nowhere and rips into me, all because of a single word in a post that was paragraphs long--on many other topics as well--when somebody pulls something like that, I will rip him a new orifice. You would do well to remember that in the future.
Pistoff
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 04:40:27 AM
IP: wire-19.koalas.com
PIST-ON> I have no problem staying away from you, "bubba," but I won't NOT take issue with you in EVERY BIT AS PUBLIC A MANNER as you make the comments with which I take issue.
My biggest problem with your kind of "smart ass" (thanks for admitting it) attacks is that it actually ends up BENEFITTING the Bakkers of this world by indicating, empirically at least, that those who are anti-Bakker are nothing more than flip smartasses.
And I am so sorry you are having a bad week. You take care now. Jesus saves. Moses invests.
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:41:07 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Lovely. It's been a crappy week, and it just keeps getting worse....
Pogo: Well, well, well, look who finally shows up in here--and attacks me the instant he arrives. Bubba, you're one of the reasons I stopped posting in the S8 room. I just got sick of being attacked by you. And now, here we are, at it again. Don't you have anything better to do?
Apparently not. You're determined to take a trivial point and make a big stink about it, just for the sake of taking a potshot at me. I don't know what your grudge against me is, or how it started, but I suggest you think twice about it, from now on. I've taken a lot of crap from people today, and I'm about to boil over.
You asked if I think it raises people's esteem of me to make baseless accusations? I was making a joke. I was being a smartass. I was making fun of Bakker's name, nothing more. It was a cheap shot, sure, but what the hell. I shouldn't have to justify myself to you, but I'm doing it simply to get this out of my system before my neck explodes.
Now, let me ask YOU something. Do YOU think it raises people's esteem of YOU when they see you attacking me the instant you show up? Jesus. As soon as you come in here, the first thing you want to do is pick a fight. I got tired of your attitude in the S8 room, and I won't put up with it here. I take enough of this kind of crap from my customers. I don't need it when I'm off the clock. You just back off.
Do yourself a favor, Pogo, and let it drop. Or else grow enough balls to post your email address so we can have it out in private. Otherwise, just stay the hell away from me.
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 02:30:05 AM
IP: wire-5.koalas.com
PISTOFF> You said Jim Bakker's name has two "k"s, because three (i.e., forming "KKK") "would be too obvious."
I find Bakker as ridiculous and pathetic as probably most do.
But have you evidence that he is racist? That he is a KKK member?
Do you think it raises people's esteem of you to read you make baseless accusations?
Just curious.
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:21:27 AM
IP: proxy4-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
GREEN BARON> First off, I completely agree that the current Bishop of Rome has done a small, slow wonder for the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) during his papacy. An honest and kind umpire who does not try to change God's strike zone (as HE, the pope, honestly views it) simply because it may be "popular" to do so.
However, MARTIN LUTHER can hardly be reduced to a German crybaby. His quarrels with the church had to do with far more than just the tyrannies and idiocies of the RCC of that era. Starting with his view that people didn't need priests as intermediaries to deal with the Almighty ... continuing with his view that faith alone saved, and not deeds per se ... and so on. There are some Theses that deal with Luther's views; I'm sure you've read them.
Right or wrong, they are hardly the verbal tears of a crybaby.
Pogo
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:17:16 AM
IP: proxy1-external.alsv1.occa.home.com
Ohhhh boy...been one of those weeks again. I'll see if I can catch up on some of what I missed here...
First of all, I'm glad everybody enjoyed the B5 bloopers. :)
SJ: ACK!! Sorry about your computer problems. :( I had something similar happen a few months ago. I hope nothing else goes wrong. *crosses fingers for ya*
Mandolin: Congrats on the part in "Jane Eyre"! :D
Wilek: I know that I can disconnect without closing the browser. Problem is, Mom usually does that to me when I'm chatting with a friend. Like with Jan--two minutes after I start chatting, Mom wants to use the phone. *sighs* Maybe I'll be able to get a second phone line someday.... :)
Green Baron: Hack into somebody else's account, eh? *g* I like it. :) Next time one of my rich customers refuses to tip me..... *thinking evil thoughts*
Bob Larson: I remember this guy. Somebody once told me about his radio show before I had ever heard of the bastard. All this guy told me was, "Tune in, you'll like him." So I tuned in. And heard somebody calling in and asking him if Nostradamus was in leage with Satan. With absolute certainty, Larson said, "Yes, he is!" And then he went off on a rant about how Nostradamus was evil. *rolls eyes* If I ever run into that pathetic little planarian worm, I'm gonna hit him very, very hard. :)
Televangelists in general: What a racket. Send me your money or God will kill me. I did a report in a high school speech class about this very subject. Of course, I had to include Jim Bakker (remember, that's spelled with two "K's" because three would be a little too obvious), but my favorite was Robert Tildon. This guy had a sharkskin suit and too much hair spray, and a $10,000 smile. But he was friggin' freaky! I saw a clip of him giving one of his "buy my snake oil" spiels, and he was smiling and acting normal--then, out of the blue, he went sideways. He climbed up on the lecturn, pounding his fist on it and screaming something about "beating the devil down in the name of God and Jesus!!!" I actually backed away from the TV when that happened. This guy also sent out "prayer kits"--they included "prayer cloths" which people were supposed to pray over and send back, and Robert would pray over them, too. I don't remember most of the stuff in those kits, except that the stuff looked like free gifts from Fingerhut...and of course there was also an envelope for donations. Tildon had a room full of people who opened his mail..and if there was money in it, they'd keep that and throw the rest away...and if there was no money in it, they'd just throw it away without even looking at anything else. Gee, what a swell guy.... *cracks knuckles*
jewel: Ye gods! Sorry about your technology problems, too. Damn, Y2K isn't even here yet... Anyway, I hope things work out for you. :)
Xanathar: Oh man, you're having computer troubles too? Sorry about that, bud.
Speaking of computer troubles, how many people have been having problems with ICQ? It's developed a tendency to kick me and my friends out of our chats, then not let us back in... O_o Among many other annoying things...
Jaden: You're an insomniac, too? Sucks, doesn't it? I got my sleep pattern all screwed up when I delivered newspapers at 4 A.M. every moning...never been able to sleep a full night after that... O_o
Fire Storm: Yikes!! You're right, most companies just want you to sell people stuff they don't need or want. I got that a lot from car salesmen. "Well, we can't give you the '90 Camaro even though yesterday we told you it was a done deal--but we have this nice '98 Escort for double the monthly payments...." And when one set of the bastards calls to order pizzas, they actually try to HAGGLE with us!!! It usually goes like this....
"Will this be delivery or carryout?"
"What kinda deal can you give me on your large pizzas?"
"Well, larges start at $11.99 with one topping, $1 for each additional topping, and if you get two, the second is $5 off the regular price."
"Yeah, but what kinda *deal* can you give me?"
"Do you have a coupon?"
"No. I just need you to give me a deal on these."
"We sell pizzas, not cars. We don't just give people discounts for the hell of it. Either you use a coupon, or pay regular price."
*rolls eyes again* Yeeeeeeesh!!!
Anyway, FS, excellent rant, I agree. Good thing you walked out on that job. You put up with it longer than I could've. ;)
Jannie: Sorry I missed you tonight. :( They kept me at work longer than I expected. Hope to see you soon. *hugs*
Deuce (re: Voyager blooper): LMAO!! Where did you find that one??
Zath: Yeah, the pics got through, and boy, am I impressed! Hell, I'm absolutely in awe! *bows* Thank you so much! Those pictures were incredible! :D
Shogun Raptor (re: Jerry Springer's mini-me): Ye frickin' gods! Will that man ever be stopped? He's a dung beetle. It's time somebody squashed his ass. :)
Delphi: Here's that link you wanted, in case you haven't found it in last week's CR yet. :)
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:13:57 AM
IP: wire-23.koalas.com
EH, drawn too much in the last few hours, so I'm taking a break and stopping by here. But its gonna be sooo worth it as soon as I get this scanner working. (By the by Wilek, I've done a couple of those Pokemon pictures you requested, you should be getting them pretty soon.)
Rewatched my copy of the first episode of Beast Machines today. Strangely enough, I was a bit more impressed this time around. Go fig. Perhaps because this time I had half a clue what was going on when I watched.
Also I figured out what it was that bothered me about the animation. Examining it more closely, the animation WAS superior to the animation in Beast Wars in every respect save two. The character's original beast forms and all the explosions in the episode weren't texture mapped, they were smooth rendered. In laymen's terms, the way the episode was animated, it seemed as if the characters had smooth skin instead of fur, and the explosions looked liquid instead of gassy. That was distracting this time around, and this time I know why. I still don't understand WHY they would downgrade their special FX in that way, except maybe they've moved up to a new batch of computers and had to start totally from scratch... (Whatever the case, Mainframe still does the best CGI out of anyone, including Disney, Dreamworks, and whoever is doing Starship Troopers.)
Wilek- $Actually, originally, Black Tiger was going to be killed off the first day of the RP to show how ruthless the cyber-smurf was, but I all too quickly became attached to him. ANd then I considered making him Jim as you suspected, and killing off the clone so that there would be only one... Then I became attached to the clone and all of his quirks that the original Jim didn't have, not to mention I'm sick of death cheating, so after a bit of planning, came to what the story is at now... Just wait until you see how I explain it...$
**POKEMON STUFF AND POSSIBLE SPOILERS**
James being the less twisted one... Oh definatley. In fact, its a running theory of mine that he may eventually join the good guys. I mean, he had qualms about blasting a giant pokemon with a bazooka, he looked to Ash for help on more than one occassion, thanked him for saving his life, refused to ruin a child's dreams... ANd he clearly doesn't like the treatment Jessie and Meowth give him all the time... He's only in Team ROcket because he enjoys certain aspects of it, and those have all been deprived since they started trying to catch Pikachu... It'd be cool if he switched sides I think...
**END POKEMON STUFF**
Fire Storm- Nice "mini rant".
Taleweaver- There's a reason you've only been able to find 25 anime laws. I've made most of the rest of them, 26-51 and counting, myself. You wanna copy?
My personal favorite anime law is number 17... The law of Transient Romantic Unreliabilty.... "Minmei is a bimbo." Heh.
Aaron- Ah.
Christine- Actually, capturing Pokemon and forcing them to fight isn't a bad thing within the series. For some reason, Pokemon seem to like it, and its usually the only way for them to evolve.
Deuce- Actually, I watch tons of stuff after 2:30 AM. Those are my normal night-owl hours when school isn't involved...
Why do cartoons become formulaic? I think the main reason is that here in America at least, its because its donw only for money, and almost never for love. Whereas in Japan, shows like Sailor Moon, Dragonball, Slayers, Ranma 1/2 and more go for hundreds of episodes without getting formulaic... Yes they do it for money as well, but they also care about what they do. (Okay, they do get somewhat repetitive at times, but its bound to happen after that many episodes...)
Starship Troopers- AH, so THAT'S the reason... That kinda... Well... Sucks.
Eh, no RP tonight because Conan O Brian is about to come on, and no one else on the Dark Star 2 RPed tonight either...
"I've consolidated that gesture into this." -William Shatner, who after being given the Vulcan hand gesture responded with a certain one fingered gesture...
Robby
Wednesday, September 22, 1999 01:04:21 AM
IP: spider-ta081.proxy.aol.com
**No RP tonight. I have a feeling the Avatar shouldn't find the Phalanx base just *yet*...**
Jaden> <<When other people get tired, they get to fall asleep, but me I never get a good nights sleep. Had that problem for about...a year now.>> ACK. That sounds like some manner of...um...something bad. Have you seen a sleep specialist about this?
Fire Storm> <<Need any tapes transfered to CD-ROM?>> Not at the moment--I only have one, and it's currently holding part of my MID/MP3 collection (I should probably update that sometime soon). But thanks for asking. :) Rant> <grr> It REALLY ticks me off when a company treats an employee that way, especially one who apparently did as good a job as you have. Hm...I wonder, what are the more creative methods of corporate sabotage...<<75% of the crap I put up with was due, wether directly or indirectly, with the b#%ch. REALLY long story, and if there is enough interest, I will tell it.>> It might be beneficial to get that particular painful memory out of your system. <<If you had a choice between two cancer medications, one that has been proven safe on animals, and one that passed all of the computer simulations, which one would you choose?>> That all depends on how accurate the sims were. :>
Pokemon> Sometimes I wonder if, just maybe, Team Rocket may be some manner of cult. Look at the attachment they seem to have to the various versions of the organization's manifesto. Hm...
Green Baron> <<I think we should find Fred Phelps and his goons and all wave signs saying, "God Hates Inbreeding" :)>> LOL!
SJ> $<<No RP tonight. Ever since my computer had a meltdown a couple days ago, I'm confused as to what's going on. Where was I again.....?>> Er...on the Dark Star II, I think, just after Black Tiger revealed that he was Jim's son.$ <<a clusterf*** of supreme proportions>> I HAVE to remember that one. ;) <<they sold the *unfinished* series. I'm talking like, only 5 or 6 episodes of the show were in the can. Out of about 44.>> <GRR> So the One True Weisman is again cheated out of the glory he so richly deserves. <sigh> Are he and all his followers cursed to be forever shafted by Fate?
Shogun Raptor> <<Today on Jerry Springer, jerry had a midget dressed up like him following him around, yes Springer had his own "mini-me">> ROTFL! I would have paid to see that. :D <<I had the Idea of a Scooby-doo/Space ghost crossver, basically the whole joke was Freddy trying to do the "let's see who our creature/ghost/monster REALLY is" on Zorak>> Ooh...how many pieces did he get torn into? >:)
For no apparent reason, there's a rather kewl MID file at my name link. ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:59:01 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Speaking of crossovers, I had the Idea of a Scooby-doo/Space ghost crossver, basically the whole joke was Freddy trying to do the "let's see who our creature/ghost/monster REALLY is" on Zorak
shogun raptor
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:15:43 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net
Goodeve everyone,
tough day at work today...so much stuff to move yet and there is only four weeks of this remodel left to go. I keep telling myself IT IS GETTING BETTER, but boy will I ever be glad when it is over. I miss my normal routine and will be very glad to switch back to my regular weekly schedule.
>>>wishes to everyone for a good day tommorrow
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:59:05 PM
IP: 216.190.241.221
I'm currently playing with my new scanner trying to get it to work. Also, I have about a dozen drawings I need to have finished by about 3 o clock tommarrow afternoon and I haven't even started so... I'm a bit too busy to post right now. I'll try to make up for it tommarrow...
Robby
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:53:39 PM
IP: spider-to074.proxy.aol.com
*begin RP* "SEVENS, PLAN DELTA TANGO ORANGE! SCRAMBLE!" Bellows Shogun, in a flash, Flypside and Blackwing are behind the wheel of their battle van, taking pot-shots at Pastor John's tank, Shogun, fenrir and Abel Leap on top of the vehicle, Shogun uses his nemesis gauntlets to neatly slice the tank cannon in half down the middle, Abel takes the uncut half and curls it inward, leaving a track that would send any shell fired back toward the turret, meanwhile, with a blast of magical cold, Fenrir freezes the tank hatch and smashes it open, Pastor jonh screams somethin unpostable and opens fire with a tek-9 he carried with him, Abel uses his whiplike tail and snaps the gun out of the crazed WCOC leader's hand, leaving flail marks on said hand, Shogun Reaches down and yanks him free of the tank, in the meanwhile, Doc Congo Punches a hole in the front of the tank and lobs a live grenade into the engine block, shogun, still carrying pastor john, Fenrir and Abel leap free of the tank and land a few paces from Shap and Shauna
"foolish monstrosity" laughs Pastor John "your saving me has sealed your fate!" Shogun responds by punching the WCOC leader in the stomach" I only did that to stop you! besides, there are others who have greater vendettas against you than I, THEM for example" Shogun yells as he hoists John into the air "SHAP! SHAUNA! This piece of sub-human filth is all yours to deal with as you see fit! consider it a gift from the deadly seven!" with that the three pummeled john senseless and threw the semi-concious carcass at Shap and Shauna's feet* end RP*
SIGN OF THE ARMAGEDDON> Today on Jerry Springer, jerry had a midget dressed up like him following him around, yes Springer had his own "mini-me"
well we dodge one storm and another comes, yeesh!
WPF> Welcome
speaking of ripoffs, Fox's Digimon is nothing more than "mighty Morphin' Pokemon"
and I'm not sure, but I saw an ep of spongebob squarepants (the horror, the horror) and I think SB's pal Patrick the Starfish is voiced by our own Bill Fagerbakke(sp?)
speaking of which, it seems there's some new animorph book cover with a girl who becomes a starfish..WHAT IS THE POINT!?
shogun raptor
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:23:40 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net
Oops... this is the right address. :-P
Deuce - [dumb-as-hell@curtain.cjb.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:16:37 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Grrk... click my name for my school picture, the one I just got back today, the one that will go in the yearbook, the one everybody will see....
I wonder if I could get retakes....
Deuce - [ugly-as-hell@curtain.cjb.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:15:05 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
No RP tonight. Ever since my computer had a meltdown a couple days ago, I'm confused as to what's going on. Where was I again.....?
Starship Troopers Debacle: Well, now things are finally being said. The word has it now that Bohbot Kids, the company that was producing the show, sold it to the Sci-Fi channel and various syndicated outlets WHEN IT WAS NOT READY. In a clusterf*** of supreme proportions, they sold the *unfinished* series. I'm talking like, only 5 or 6 episodes of the show were in the can. Out of about 44. That's why we keep seeing repeats. As is stands, the animation studios have been trying to haul ass and finish things up, but it's taking time. Which they don't have.
Sony, who owns the rights to the show, is very, very *pissed*. As of right now, the show will continue to air the repeats, showing new episodes when they are finished (although not necessarily in order). The future of the show is in doubt--they could pull it until all the episodes are down, they could just make it a straight to video series, etc. So there you have it. A decent show screwed over by the people that should be instrumenting its success. And as a result, the fans (and Greg) get screwed.
Green Baron: I don't exactly take kindly to someone, especially another believer who should have some sympathy, calling the man I see as largely responsible for helping my chosen denominational faith come about, being called a "German crybaby". Martin Luther had the balls to stand up for what he believed in and break away from a church that had (and still does have) the reputation of being tyrannical. As a result, I can worship God as a Protestant, thanks in part to him. Do you like all the stories now about the former Pope being a Nazi sympathizer? Do you like that Cardinal O'Conner is apologizing to the Jews for the
persecutions committed against them by the Catholic Church? I think Catholics are getting a raw deal most of the time as well, but as a true Catholic, you should respect someone else's dogma enough not to resort to name calling. I consider Martin Luther a great man, you don't, that's okay. However, I hardly think you should be so insensitive as to rail on Luther. That's about as tasteful as, say, me making Pollock jokes about the Pope.
WB stealing from Gargoyles: I don't think that the WB is that desperate for ideas (although, with shows like Histeria, they may be). I mean, I love Gargoyles and all, but I doubt that there are people lining up to rip off Greg's ideas. It seems kind of pretentious to go around saying "Hey, they took that from Gargoyles" unless it's real blatant ripoff. *Gets horrible vision of "Saban's Power Gargoyles". Evil Alien Lord Xanatos: Owen! Send down a hail of putties!!!*
***SPOILERS FOR BUFFY****
Pretty good episode tonight. I didn't think it was *that* bad, not enough for it too get banned for so long. Joss even threw in there some socially relevant discussion about teens and violence. Plus, some of the lighter moments were really fun (like Oz's philosophical "We are Buffy-and Buffy is us" type of thinking and the Xander gay scenario--this is why I need new Buffy now!!). I can't wait till 2 weeks, when Buffy--and Angel--both start their new seasons.
***END SPOILERS***
Zath: Glad I inspired a song, even if it was from Ally McBeal (sorry, not a fan of her. She needs to eat some food!!!)
Firestorm: Your animal testing comment reminds me of an old joke that a comedian once told: "If plugging a monkey's brain up to a car battery is going to find a cure for cancer or AIDS, I have just one thing to say--the red is positive and the black is negative!" :)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 09:53:46 PM
IP: 207-172-122-190.s285.tnt18.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
SORROW>> Sorry to hear that you haven't received your shirt yet -- I'm not sure why that hasn't been taken care of. Thomas Revor, the guy who all of G99's correspondence was sent to, no longer lives at that address in Farmer's Branch. The leftover T-shirts were taken by Pat Spillers, the lady in charge of the G99 dealer's room, to sell on her website. Contact her at the email addy I have up and I'll do the same to explain the situation to her. Hope this does the trick!
Spike - [captpat@txdirect.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 09:25:40 PM
IP: pppt06-246.ght.iadfw.net
I'm trying to start a round-robin story her, since all these people here do these RP things. Add if you want to. If I get some reposnses there is a stroyboard that it can be posted to. I'll post it and any parts added to there and add a link here. Even if you don't want to contribute tell me what you think of the idea.
******
The tanned skined gargoyle leader landed next to several young members of the clan.
"What's goin' on lads an' lasses?"
The one that the humans had named Goliath approached with an unconscious woman in his arms.
"We found her while traveling through the forest nearby. But the truly strange thing is that we only found her when we looked back the way we came. To get by her in the first place we would have had to step on her."
"And look at the bizarre clothes she is wearing. I have never seen any human especially not a female wear anything like them."
"Her skin is certainly darker than any I have ever seen. Where do you think see came from?"
******
Demona smiled as the spell completed itself. She didn't know where or when Maza went but she was out of her hair now and since the spell worked she could get rid of any pests she wanted to, now.
Jason Barnett - [barnett@shentel.net]
Lebanon Church, VA, U.S.A.
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 09:22:38 PM
IP: pm02a24.shentel.net
Jobs the Unseelie still at large would be good at.
Human Resources Director
Telemarketer
Selling used cars
Selling Insurance
Politician
And last, but not least,
Tax Collector.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 08:17:53 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp35.fltg.net
It's really, really cold down here in Dallas! I'm going to have to break out the sweaters early. Many strange little things have happened over the past few days...
This is pretty awesome if you ask me... I was stressing about trying to make up a new dance for competition so I could beat out this girl who's been really mean to me. I couldn't think of anything so I decided to take a short nap. When I woke up later I had half a solo choreographed! The mind truly is a wonder...
Halloween> For the past week my mother has been making this dress by hand that I've always wanted. It's in the medeival fashion with huge puffy sleeves, a bodice looking vest, and a very poofy skirt. It's gold and burgundy and beautiful! If it's ready in two weeks I'm going to wear it to Homecoming and a Halloween party.
I have a major problem. I sent my order and check to the address in charge of the official G99 t-shirts in late March and didn't hear a thing about it since. Soooooo, I wrote another letter asking about the shirt and the letter was sent back to me saying they couldn't find the address. What!!!??? In other words, someone processed my check and left me with squat! Will someone please e-mail me verifying the address they sent their t-shirt order form and money to. I would greatly appreciate it!!
Thanks for all the concerns about my crappy week! It's nothing to pull my hair out over. I was just loaded down with stress and it's over now. Except my stupid doctor who cancelled my appointment and I'm never going to get my pills and I'll be doomed to throw up at school all the time and end up miserable and sick and depressed and %$#^%&^((%$#! ........ I feel better anyhow :)
SOROW
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 08:17:13 PM
IP: dll2b110-06.splitrock.net
Well, the exterminators have come and gone, the pesticide spraying wasn't as severe as we'd feared, and I got to keep my mattress cover. Since I'm supposed to be working now, a short post.
Formulaic Cartoons> I think there's also a prevailing attitude in the industry that cartoons are primarily children's fare, and therefore don't need to be inventive, as stupid as that assumption is. With the exception of King of the Hill, Family Guy, Futurama, and The Simpsons, cartoons are still considered to be kids' shows, and the networks feel that kids' shows should be formulaic.
But you know... that seems to be a trend in a lot of network TV as well. Why? Because formulaic is safe. Because all the networks care about is ratings, not quality, and the general consensus is that something offbeat will scare away the masses - which it sometimes does. Which is why I'm starting to think "Now and Again" will meet the same fate that "Nowhere Man" did.
**Several creativity demons shriek, "SHUT UP ABOUT THAT @(#&% SHOW ALREADY!**
Kitania re: Jane Eyre> Entertaining? I don't know, but my friend Michelle is pushing for us to just ad-lib the whole play... and that's only because her character drinks periodically... I don't think the director would go for it, but it would be hysterical.
Ohmigod, it's almost 8! Buffy's on! Bye!
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 07:56:02 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15
Longer post later, just wanted to give hugz to all that have given me advise. I think I know the situation pretty well . [Hugz] And thanx to Jannie and cristine for helping me find gathering info. I'll need alot more though. EVERYTHING , in order for my mom to get interested . I must go.
t-shirt topic replies-ROTFLMAOAMFIGRCBCBCBCBCBCBCB.okay , I can breath now.
SHORT BRITTANY SPEARS vs. BJORK RANT
**ATTENTION ALL BRITTANY SPEARS FANS AND ENEMIES. THE EVIL GIRL IS COPYING OFF OF BJORK. I HAVE FOUND PROOF [actually the hardworking fans at bjorks ultimate intimate page found this, praise them] GO TOO SEARCH , TYPE BJORK, GO TO THE ULTIMATE INTIMATE BJORK FANSITE, THEN GO TO PICS. CLICK ON BJORK-ALIKES. THE VERY BOTTOM PIC IS ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS DEMON THAT TRIES TO BE LIKE THE ICELANDIC ANGEL. AND AFTER YOU SEE IT , PRINT IT , SHOW IT TO EVERYBODY , then take a look at every thing else the site has to offer.**
thanx for listening to my little rant. I'll be back later. bye.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 07:02:10 PM
IP: proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net
Since a few people in here mentioned memories of the old "Dungeons & Dragons" cartoon show here, I thought that I'd share this with you - it's all the more relevant to "Gargoyles" since this involves Michael Reaves. Reaves wrote a number of episodes for "Dungeons & Dragons" (including one of the best, "The Dragons' Graveyard"), and also wrote this never-released script for what was meant to have been a conclusion to the series that wound up not getting made. Click on my name to get there.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:54:39 PM
IP: 216.87.46.51.dialup-stl.primary.net
Well, this has to be a quick post because I'm using the USC computer lab and there's a line of people waiting. **sigh** Hopefully I can get my home connection straightened out so I won't have to do this again.
Hmmm... Looks like I misses the sunday wipe by less than 10 minutes. So close and yet so far... Before I get thrown off, I just have a couple of things to say.
SJ> My roommates were watching Ally McBeal with the volume turned way up and they were singing along and it gave me this weird creativity demon of you singing "I was the son of a creature man..."
Pistoff> CHeck your e-mail. I hope the files got sent, but I've been having all sorts of problems with my mail account so I'm not sure.
Oh well, I gotta go before I get attacked by impatient upperclassmen. Hopefully I can make a real post soon. Bye for now.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:42:03 PM
IP: lvl-pc334.usc.edu
Another Close Call with named Storms again
They cancelled classes all over Orange County except for Valencia and UCF(I think after Floyd missed us they werent going to be fooled twice. I hope Shotgun is ok
Pokemon I love the sereis and I may get the blue version of the game..although I nver cried during an episode.
James crossdressing yeah he does that a lot and has a bit more compassion than Jesse..of course she crossdressed a few times and Ash dressed up as a girl once to get into Erica's jim.
About the decline in cartoons? I guess they are getting LAZY
Laughed at DBZ today: The scene with a certain froggy whistleing.
I FINALLY SAW 6th Sense and I agree WHOA!
Time to reveal something about my self...The first scary movie I ever saw was Poltergeist when I was six"Why are they screaming mommy? theyr just skeletens." Yes I said that I saw more of them but after jr high I stopped wathcing them for a stupid reason I was afraid to be afraid. I guess FDR was right but then I remember how I was never scared and becasue my parents did an exellent job or teaching me the difference from reality and pretend...I think they did too much of a good job. That maybe whi I never cried during. Bambi or ET.
Of course thats why I get nauseous when I watch LIVE Surgery.
Begin Resteraunt Review
Logans Roadhouse
If you have one in your town go there!
At your table there is a little bucket of peanuts to snack on..and you can throw the shells on the floor. A full bar(For those over 21 thank you!)and a good menu. You have a choice of apetizers,soup or salad,and main meal.
before the appetizer you get the bread wich has a slick buttery glaze and were toasty warm.
I had the tater skins=Hmmmmm good
The cesars salad was ok but the main meal I oreder the mesquite grilled shrimp(I'm a shrimpaholic)wich was EXCELLENT. My mon ejoyed her fillet minon and we ended our meal with a cup of coffe(good coffe!). We were to full for dessert but they had some appetising dessert names.
All in All I give it four and 1/2 forks out of five
End Restaruant review.
*bounces out of the room*
Spacbabie - [Spacebabie76]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:39:59 PM
IP: ts001d41.orl-fl.concentric.net
Why do cartoons become formulaic? Good question. Here's several possible answers to mull over.
1 - Producers are not artists. One thing to remember with any form of media entertainment is that the creative team doesn't have much control. The real power is in the hands of the producers, who pay the bills. Producers are not, however, always very creative. They may not understand the need for constant inovation. Instead, they tend to see any change as a possible risk to a currently successfull property.
2 - The writers don't care. A hot property can make money for a long time without actually being good. (I could name lots of examples, but the few people who really like them despite the fact that they suck eggs would flame me) Apathetic writers tend to find a working formula and beat it to death.
3 - The story's over, but the series continues. This is most common in long running series. Here's what happens. The original creator set something in motion, and carried it through to its' logical conclusions. It was incredibly popular, though, so it remained in production. Now, though, the original story is told, so all that's left to do is rehash old material. It's hard to find a new direction to take the story, one that doesnt' violate the original theme.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:04:36 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3
**RP ALERT**
"Damn!" Shap curses as the tank sends another shell whizzing over his head to hit and demolish the wall of a government building. "Shauna, whatever you're doing, do it fast!" The noise of the tank and Pastor John's laughter continues to echo around him. Hopefully the Deadly Seven are approaching the parking lot to help out (they are, right, Shogun?).
Meanwhile, in the depths of the facility, those who were with Doug and Kitainia are in the cold room are now rejoining their friends inside the stairwell. "Did you smash the crystal?" Keith asks. "Yeah, we got it," Kitainia nods. "We also hooked up with these two stormtroopers here. They've offered to beam us back to the Avatar, but we should find Shap and Shauna before we leave." "They've got to be somewhere in the facility," Doug conjectures. "It wouldn't be like Kincaid to split up his prisoners." "Well, this stairway's clear," says Jammer, "but something's wrong with it. All the doors from here to the top are locked, and there's no sign of any guards. Or anybody but us. I smell a trap here." "Some other troopers are at the top of the stairs waiting for us," Lathrop adds. "Shall we go and join them?" "Just a sec," Doug says, turning to Janice. "Do you know where we could find Shap and Shauna?" "I'm not sure," she admits, "but I know the group of religious extremists I told you earlier were stationed on this base along with Kincaid's men wanted to do something to them. I think it was because they are..." "If you mean the WCOC," Orion stops her, "you need say no more. Doug, those people are terrible. If they have Ben and Shauna with them,..." "Where are they?" Doug interrupts the cleric. "They would probably all be on the top level," says Janice. "There's a huge auditorium there they could use to do whatever they're planning for your friends. It's the only room on the base that could hold them all at once." "Then that's where we're going," Kitainia says, pointing at the stairway. "Come on!"
**PAUSE RP**
Hi. Sorry I haven't posted before now this week, school is really hitting me hard. Doug too. :( Hope the load becomes easier next week, but it probably won't. <sighs> As the semester drags on, schoolwork tends to pile up. Oh well, on with this short post.
Halloween Costumes: Glad to know everyone has so much enthusiasm about Doug and me going as Team Rocket. We will try to get pictures out to the people in here who want them, but not until after Halloween. Hope you all can wait that long. <grin>
David: Congrats on the new apartment, and the chance to host your first live-action game (I don't care for that type of game myself, but am sure it's fun for some people). Good luck with it and the revised version of Freelance 4.
Mary: Congrats also go out to you for the positive changes in your life. :)
SOROW: <I figured out why this season seems so strange. There's no staying up til one in the morning reading fanfic yet. I don't like it! I simply can't wait!> I share your opinion. :) Hope they soon get the new season ready for us!
Beast Machines, Big Guy and Rusty: Saw these new shows last weekend (caught the former on Gubio's tape of it, he's a big Transformers fan). The latter was the more entertaining, well-animated, and character-driven of the two. Beast Machines I largely agree with Robby about, it was in no way as good as original Transformers or Beast Wars. Only the end bit with Megatron was even slightly interesting to me. <sighs> Oh well, at least the show won't be around that long. Or maybe it will get better. I hope it does.
Sevarius Jr.: Sorry to hear about your computer bombing out like that. Glad you didn't waste it with a firearm for failing you (though it might have been justified :).
Mandi: Congrats on getting the part you wanted in Jane Eyre. Good luck with the play. (Hope you can at least make it entertaining, I found the book boring as heck.)
Nightwalker: Sounds like you have an interesting situation going on in your life with your Mom and that Chris guy. I agree that he does seem a little too perfect on the surface. He probably has some flaws well-hidden underneath all that, and you just haven't found them yet. The best advice I can give is to enjoy the good things he's brought to your life and your mother's while you have them, and not worry about the possible bad things until they become clear. That's the only way I can see to get the maximum benefit out of the situation before it ends (as all too-perfect things eventually do). Above all, you should not try to end it prematurely, you'll only end up alienating your mother and thus ruining your life. So grin and bear it, hopefully everything will soon be resolved. And definitely do your Gargoyles idea involving him of course. Hope it works. <grin>
Stormy: You're welcome. :)
Deuce: Great Dis-Connect death. :) Thanks for the Pokemon info, I agree with you about Cassidy and Butch.
Theresa: Dragon Stew. :) That's definitely one for the recipe book. Thanks for posting it, wonder how it will taste. :)
Pokemon: I agree, it is a pretty good show despite its many shortcomings. It hasn't made me cry yet, but I've still been entertained. :) Especially whenever Team Rocket's speech gets interrupted, those scenes are always worthy of a little ROFL.
**ACTUAL POKEMON SCENE**
<Team Rocket appear & begin their speech, but are interrupted>
Meowth-"Do you guys have to do that every time?"
Jessie-"Why, yes. It's part of who we are."
James-<nods> "Our fans have come to expect it."
**SCENE ENDS**
Coyote: Congrats on finding a new friend, and good rant on bad job situations. (Same to Firestorm for his). May all of us never have to live through such woes (though the vast majority probably will end up doing so <sigh>).
Firestorm: Great rant, congrats on walking out of your job. (If in your situation, I would have done the same thing.) Good luck finding another and better one before too long, Doug and I will keep you in our prayers. :)
And that's all for now. Later!
**BACK TO RP ACTION**
"God!" Jammer shouts as the Ravens continue hiking up the flights of stairs. "Do these ever end?" "Uh, Jammer, we've been up them before," Tricia reminds him. "You should know they eventually do." "Yeah, but..." "Can you two quiet down?" Boris asks them. "Just concentrate on the knowledge that with every step we take, we're getting closer to the top." Jammer and Tricia both roll their eyes. "The big guy said it," Stephanie sighs, glancing at Kitainia as they keep climbing. "What I'm worried about is by the time we get up there, we'll be too tired to fight whatever bad guys who are waiting for us to arrive." Kit frowns and nods. "They're probably counting on that. Get your remove fatigue spells ready, Orion, just in case." The cleric nods that he will do so. Meanwhile, Doug looks at Jaden, who is once again clenching his fists and looking sullen. "Are you okay?" the Ravens' leader asks. "Fine," the werewolf sighs. "Just claustrophobia." "Oh yeah," Doug agrees, "I have that too. Come on, the top can't be too much farther away."
Viewing them through a hidden security camera, Kincaid smiles. "One minute forty-five seconds to detonation, Ravens, and you've still got ten flights to go. You'll never make it in time." He presses an intercom. "Get my Stealth fighter ready to leave, Agent Foster. I wish to get out of here as soon as I can, before the Ravens' friends find out what I've done to ensure the deaths of the people they've come to rescue." "Yes, sir," Foster replies. "The jet is being fueled now." Kincaid thanks him and stands up, walking toward the secret bunker wherein lies his escape. In another part of the complex, Agent Tau crouches before a doorway to a large stairwell. If the Ravens should emerge alive from this door, he thinks, they will face a far greater challenge than the bombs about to go off down there. Me.
**END THIS RP AND POST**
Kitainia
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 05:55:30 PM
IP: pool-207-205-148-122.dlls.grid.net
Regressing Toons > I think the reason we're now seeing a decline in "animated drama" (with Batman/Superman going the way of the Gargoyles) is that these toons are falling into formulas. I know one of the Batman/Superman writers (won't name names) has got it perfected down to an art form. For the writers, the characters stop being characters and instead become tools of plot progression. The first seasons of Batman were the best, because they really dove into the psyche of each character. Superman was a lot of flying and punching. Real deep. The best eps were written by Paul Dini. He knows his stuff, but didn't write enough of it.
To summarize, shows disappear because people lose interest. People lose interest because the quality slips. I mean, look at "Goliath Chronicles." "Gargoyles" became formulaic.
The question, then, is why do cartoons become formulaic?
Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 05:36:48 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu
Xanathar: Yeah, walking out took guts. BUT I was putting up with WAY more that I should have, so that made it easier. One thing to remember before you walk out, though: Make sure that you have a source of income. BTW, where do you work?
Jannie: <RE:Mini-clan> Well, someone had to say it in here!
BTW, which Depot did your friend work at?
Coyote: Yeesh. You got bad tech support? I know that feeling...
<COUGH><COMPAQ><COUGH>
I just hope you can get someone who knows what they are doing!
Skippy: <So, how much of my chasing Myhr got caught on tape?> On my tape? All of it.
PETA: Ya know, I bet the people at PETA have NEVER had a nice peta bread sandwitch. <G>
I agree that animals should not be mistreated. But lets ALL be honest: If you had a choice between two cancer medications, one that has been proven safe on animals, and one that passed all of the computer simulations, which one would you choose?
<ACKNOWLEDGE\\SUBMIT>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 04:44:51 PM
IP: t2-34.visitus.net
DEUCE - Re: Voyager Blooper... LOL! Please tell me you saved it!
As as for PETA: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. It's a activist group that goes after people whom they think are performing cruel acts to their furry and feathered friends. (Notorious for going after the Fur industry).
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 01:36:27 PM
IP: ppp-234.icehouse.net
It's just one of those days....
Robby> ["I can't recall the last time any other show
made me cry!"] You obviously don't watch many movies after 2:30 am. You'll cry at "The X-Files" after 2:30 am.
night walker> ["I wasn't thinking vampire , more like an incubus type."] *gulp* Have you read Christine's fic "Black Roses"? This Chris guy doesn't look like Denzel Washington at all, does he? ;-) I repeat: BE CAREFUL.
B5 bloopers: I don't watch the show, so I can't say, but I do have my favourite blooper of all time. In a first season episode of Voyager, when they believe they may have found a wormhole to get home, it is revealed that (technobabble), so they can't. They're should be a long silence, but it's broken by Robbie MacNeil (Tom Paris) saying to Tuvok:
"So, we're f*cked, right?"
I saw an AVI of this somewhere on the 'net and literally fell out of my chair laughing. It was on cue... perfect. Of course, the actors in the room all broke up as well, and you could hear the pissed director yelling "Cut! Robbie, what the hell was that?!"
Green Baron> ["The RCC has some covert operations, but we're the good guys :)"] I can see it now.... "Tom Clancy's Vatican: Covert Ops". *L*
Christine> ["But it's still disturbing ... you'd think PETA would be all over this show ... "] PETA? Indulge the poor stupid boy here: huh? :-)
** Deuce walks out, yelling "SNOW ALREADY!!!!!" **
Deuce - [narcoleptic@curtain.cjb.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 01:25:55 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
New on my site -- "Rain and Rosanna," a Silver Flame story for Coyote; mature readers only. Clickie-clickie.
Wilek > ::groan:: Yeah, I've seen it, Tim is dying to watch it, and you know, that's my point exactly, why do Fred and Daphne always go off alone? Huh? How dumb do they think we are? ; )
night walker > for a detailed scoop on the past three Gatherings, you can always check out my exhaustive essays at http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/gargoyles.html
Pokemon > yeah, they're cute ... it's like Orko Syndrome taken to the ultimate extreme. But it's still disturbing ... you'd think PETA would be all over this show ...
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:44:18 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
There should be a rule against it being 102 in late september.
Robby> You said something about Space Ghost/Gargs, and that's the image that came to mind. And is it just me, or is this RP getting very DNA Squared?
Warpmind> Yeah, I know. If I start to speak in languages I shouldn't know, or if my voice drops about three octaves, kill me. Fast. It'll save a lot of trouble in the long run.
*******Possible spoiler for Stigmata**************
GB> Well, wouldn't it have been scarier to cast them as the bad guys then? And as for the Vatican suppressing things, I ask you about the third Fatima Prophecy?
************End Spoiler************************************
Later.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:34:38 PM
IP: ppp-66.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Anime Laws> I've only found 25 of them. My favorite is the physics law of propultion. In the anime universe, constant trust equals constant velocity, especially in the vacuum of space. I went through my old Robotech eps and sure enough the law holds.
WB> I don't know if they're stealing from Gargoyles specifically. They've got a whole lot of ideas to run into the ground before they need to resort to stealing. Right now, they've sufficiently buried the whole Tiny Toons/Animaniac/Histeria thing. Superman/Batman aren't far behind. In a way it sad. Animation has made such strides to be taken seriously not just by kids, but by adults. And I see a lot of that backsliding to cutsy toons. Oh well. Everything occurs in the fullness of time.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:15:52 PM
IP: 134.71.32.54
Green Baron-- LOL at your comment--were you Mr. Vogal at the masquerade??
jenna
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:03:49 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Wilek> I guess most of the people who count as BL Fan Club members are the folks who post on the newsgroup. It's worth lurking the NG just to catch some of the rants by The Uberpope of Shatnerology and the Meyahoo (our local mock religons.) But we are a real loose knit bunch, this group protest we are organizing in Dallas will be the first time most of us will meet in person...
Janine> So, how much of my chasing Myhr got caught on tape?
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:01:59 AM
IP: uv1-60.ultravision.net
Janine> On Friday, I was wearing a green suit with a green bowtie. My costume was a dark suit with a red bowtie and big glasses.
Green Baron
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:11:09 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102
Televangelist Rant> This is one of ther easons I am ecstatic that I am a Roman Catholic. It was this sort of corruption that caused a German crybaby to split my Church in half 500 years ago. Now, despite what some progressives, feminazis, and hardcore fundamentalists say, the Catholic Church has become a more honest faith and has very high credibility coupled with a loving, caring, and all aorund nice guy for a Pope.
While some coudl attribute televangelism's roots to Father Charles Coughlin, he mostly spoke about Social Justice and ahd soem very well-intentioned but foolish economic views. In addition, when the Archbishop of Detroit told him to stop, he stopped. The televangelists lead disturbingly disorganized religions and cannot be stopped by a proper authroity until tehy are caught cheating on their wives, like that @$$hole Jimmy Swaggart who dared to call my people "Pope worshippers". I also find it dicturbing that ministers in general can lead such wealthy lives and split their time serving God (well they really serve themselves) by having a family. The only Minister with a national audience I can think well of is Billy Graham, but he is the sole exception and I am still disturbed by the fact that he has a son and far too nice a lifre for a clergyman.
If I want to watch something religious, I'll flip on EWTN and watch Mother Angelia, or turn on WLAE-TV which is owned by Most Rev. Philip Hannon, retired ArchBishop of New Orleans, who I meet at my barber shop on occassion.
Wilek> I think we should find Fred Phelps and his goons and all wave signs saying, "God Hates Inbreeding" :)
Firestorm> I see your dilemna. As for being a salesman, to some extent we all are, as we sell ourselves in interviews or do our job we are selling our resources for a paycheck which is how capitalism works, butthere we must be honest, because lying will catch up with us faster in those arenas. Well, if you want really oily scuzzy salesamn come down to the South. Many of our politicans are described as snake oil salesman :)
Aaron> I think you like conspiracy theories a bit too much, there. Here's a little secret: The RCC has some covert operations, but we're the good guys :)
NightWalker> I have never relied on my gut, since it usually causes me distress. I can understand where you are uncomfortable around him, but he seems like a decent guy. He is dating your mother and that has to be difficult for you, especially if your parents' marriage hasn't been anuled. My parents split up 10 years ago and it hasn't been anuled yet. I am not happy aboput my father's remarriage and that's a big reason for it. My mother has thought about dating again or remarrying and she gets angry when I bring up that the marriage hasn't been anuled. Hopefully, your feeling is just that, a feeling. I do agree it's a bit tacky for him to be there during midnight, but I am very old-fashioned.
If you need more advice, let me know and I'll e-mail you some more.
Robby> I know it would be confusing, but I just loved that world they used in the original, and I would love toplay a game set in the time of the final stage, just to see the game world 2,000 years ago.
Jenna> Bible Thumper? My mother calls me a bead banger. I guess that's better than Bible thumper :)
I also agree iwth your commenst about not including a hous key with the car key. I also support Kyryn's argument that women should arm themselves.
Taleweaver> I hope you aren't going after any Cavaliers in my family or High School :)
Now I'm off. Bye bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:09:16 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102
**enters the room, switching out the candles with a happier look on his face.**
Just makin' some quickies this morning ...
Jewel: Hmm ... naming a Sheltie "Pikachu" ... I suppose it would fit. :)
Deuce: Thanks for the summary of "Pikachu's Goodbye." Oh, and if ye check yer mail, I sent you what I could recall of "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex?"
Robby: To tell the truth, every time I've seen Team Rocket's entrance interrupted, it's usually been either by Meowth or by Jesse and James themselves. I know one time it was interrupted by James because he was carrying Jesse on his shoulders and couldn't take the weight any longer. :)
Wilek: I'm glad you're willing to back me up ... **sighs hopefully for the prospect of the wandering Pokemon fan to come through again ...**
Night Walker: I'll agree to it ... mainly because that's a killer image you came up with for it. :)
Jaden: I spoke with her for about 45 minutes, until she had to leave to eat, I think ...
Fire Storm: Heh ... maybe you ought to try applying to the store I work for as tech support, our current tech support guy is more adept at *crashing* machines than *fixing* them. Anything's an improvement over this guy ... you know for sure that he's been messin' with the computers in the store when they crash when you attempt to print anything, or look up certain vehicle parts (it repeatedly crashed once when I tried looking up suspension parts for an '84 Grand Prix!), or when they don't allow any logins, even legit ones.
As far as your woes with selling ... yeesh, my manager's just as bad about hard selling. Two weekends ago, he was trying to impress the front office with our windshield wiper sales ... so he told us to basically try to sell blades to *everybody,* no matter whether they needed them or not. Suffice to say, our attempts had the opposite effect ... most of the customers would look at us with an expression that says "what the hell does that have to do with anything?!"
As far as crappy equipment, they tell us to try to increase the store's almighty Average Sale (the big barometer for us) by selling as much of a certain line of electrical parts (starters and alternators). These are the more expensive lifetime warrantied ones. *Then* they turn around and tell us that the other line ... the ones that have been warrantied so often that their warranty has been reduced from five years to one year ... is equally as good. HAH! If they were equally as good, they wouldn't have a 82% warranty rate! If the company had as decent of quality assurance, they would at least put *packing materials* in the boxes with the damned parts. Or for that matter, they'd make sure that the right part was in the right box (this has happened numerous times, when we received misboxed one-year alternators.).
But I digress ... you see how much crap I put up with that's similar to Office Depot.
Jannie: At the dinner, I was the guy in the white sleeveless shirt. I was wearing the underpinnings of my costume there, then after it was over I ran upstairs to put on the makeup and get helped into the costume itself by Starsinger.
**sits back in the massage chair, splitting his attention between the candle and the door, hoping wPf comes through again.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 09:51:40 AM
IP: modem3.i-is.com
Hi all!!
Great news,that Pr*ck of an Assistant Manager I told you guy's about a while ago has been transfered to another store,*Does a little happy dance*and somebody changed the radio station over the weekend and I spent most of the morning listening to AC DC,Pink Floyd and Nirvana while I work,and I have'nt heard a single Ricky Martin or Backstreet Boys song all week!!!*Bounces off the walls of the CR,Overjoyed*:)
Pokemon:I could never really get into this show,I suppose if I watched it over the course of a few ep's I could get into it but I'm usually at work when it's on.
wandering Pokemon fan:Hello there:)
night walker:Your right that is creepy,he's definately using the nice guy routine in order to gain your trust and acceptance(I've got a friend who's mothers got a similar "Nice boyfriend",he makes me feel really uneasy every time I see him when I go over to my friends place)
night walker again:Mine would be a full body drawing of Goliath looking down at a body in a pool of blood , in the backround there's goofy trembling with fear , realizing that he's next, but had just enough time to say , OH MY GOD, HE KILLED MICKY.>>OOOHHHH!! I like it>:)we could make different versions of the t-shirt with other Gargoyles characters(I'd take the Demona version myself>:))
Fire Storm:Loved the Rant,I rarely where my name badge at work myself(I hated it when people whom I had never met in my entire life came up and started talking like the've known me for years>:(),and I always try to be honest,I just wish I had the guts to walk out of my job like you did.
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 08:41:54 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
Firestorm> Good for you! Depot lost a very important rep. when they lost you. The first time a rep. starts in with the BS - I walk away... but not without letting them know first why they've just lost a sale. This is why I go to the local mom & pop computer store. I may pay a dollar or two more for the merchandise, but they haven't ripped me off yet. They're business has also grown to really racking in the bucks too - all because of their reputation of being honest. It's a shame that large corporations have forgotten the value of honesty and integrity *shakes head*. I am glad to hear that there are still honest people in the (retail-sales) work force with a conscience. :) A friend of mine worked for Depot and had basically the same complaints... eesh!
P.S. yes, MINI Clan rocks the world! ;) *coughs* ummm.. I'm a mini clanner.. hehehe I was at the Gathering also and have Aslan on tape yelling that... *L* She's a funny gal!
Green Baron> I went back and watched the home video that I have from the Gathering. I have most of the costuming... what exactly did your costume look like? Most of my video is centered around the mini clanners, but I did tape at least everyone who was in the costume contest. We had several in that..... Moriar, the young man w/the long hair wearing the white toga (which is NOT a dress *L*), Fox =), Syren the bluebonnet, Aslan of Mini Clan rocks the world, and the petite young lady with the tail that came out from under her dress.. I forgot the character she was portraying...
As I watched the video, I become tickled all over again when Myhr discovered the true gender of Hudson.. " introducing as Hudson, Heather...*blinks* HEATHER??? " *LOL* Then someone yelled out, "Hudson is a cross-dresser?" *chuckles*
Will you be attending G2000? I'm planning on being there with Denis and with Mini again... hope to meet you!
Heh, glad the storm went east, huh? I'm in Houston and get a little nervous when a TS or TD comes into the Gulf. I'm far enough inland to not receive the brunt of a hurricane, but it makes up for it with the flooding and tornadoes o.O
Coyote> if you would like a copy of the video, I'm posting an email addy for you to send me your mailing address. The video is, as I told GB, concentrated on Mini Clanners. It's a cheesy home video ;) But I will be more than happy to share it with you. I tried to locate you in the video based on Lex's description of you.. but I'm not sure. What were you wearing for the supper? That is when we got most of our footage of other participants - while we were waiting for HOURS (it seemed like) to go into the dining room. There is a brief shot of a man wearing a white sleeveless T-shirt that "might" fit your desciption *chuckles* or possible a guy wearing all black. Either one of these fit your wardrobe description? *g*
Pistoff> ack! I couldn't bring myself to dragging my keester out of bed at 2:30 am. sorry! I wanted to talk to you and Denis - but my body had other plans... sleep! I woke up, just couldn't get up. It turned into an extremely difficult night and I was very worn out. I'm white knuckling it now, holding on so tightly to what is good in the world. Thanks for being a lifesaver for me! *hugs* Love ya, brother & dear friend of mine =)
Denis> I'll talk to you later on the phone ;) 'love you!
Television Evangelist: they are not the "norm" for most Christianity. They make a bad name for those who choose that practice and who do it with a good heart and soul. It's like saying all germans were bad because of Hitler. I am a believer of consequences and believe that those who have misrepesented christianity and made a mockery of it (most TV Evangelist) will have consequences...either now or in the afterlife. They will have an even higher price to pay for their deeds. O.O IMO :)
*steps off of soapbox, picks it up and walks out* ;)
Jannie - [jgmiller@teacher.esc4.com]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:36:12 AM
IP: 196-168.c.esc4.net
DERN LOT BOYS!
What the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS is a MINT rant? Did I even MENTION peppermint? How about spearmint? Or doublemint? Or the US mint? NOT A SINGE TIME.
It was a MINI rant. Like the MINI clan (THAT ROCKS THE WORLD! <Here ya go whoever you were at G99>
Just calming down after that rant. (Well... THIS helped, but not as much as dancing to "Bittersweet Symphony" with Lady Mystic!)
Fire Storm the Not-quite-mad-yet-not-very-happy
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 04:41:13 AM
IP: 216.90.45.162
Zip Drives: $10 for a lousy 100mb? PLEASE! I get 650mb for under $1! Or, if I use my Sparq, I get 1000mb for $33! Iomega makes a killing on thier SMALL storage mediums (40mb for $10!) and MURDER on their larger ones ($200 for 2gb). I REALLY hope the Iomega gets wiped out when people realize that there really ARE more affordable methods of storage! (Hell, a spare 6.4GB IDE hard drive is cheaper than a pack of ZIP disks!)
IOMEGA: Yet another company I will try to avoid buying products from.
Wilek: <120MB is barely enough to hold all my MIDs and MP3s>
Tell me about it. A customer I had once sent me a stack of 13 ZIP disks full of MP3's. I transfered the disks to two CD-Recordables. MUCH more accessable. (AND you don't need to mess with the ZIP tools.)(Also, nice eye candy with the nifty CD labels and case jackets)
Need any tapes transfered to CD-ROM? <SHAMELESS PLUG! (And damn proud of it, too!)>
Speaking of which...
DUMLAOX: If you are out there lurking, can you e-mail me? I would like to have your official customer feedback, if you do not mind.
<>WARNING! MINI-RANT! WARNING!<>
Ok, I know some people probally think I am just a 'scamming sales man' but I am not! I HATE lieing to customers. I try my very best to prevent that (MUCH to my former managers distaste.) I was HONEST to customers (Can you lifetime salesmen even SAY the word 'HONEST'?) If I knew we had a product that REALLY sucked (MUSTEK scanners), I told my customers. Hell, even though I was working on comission, I would TRULY reccomend a cheaper product if I thought it would do a better job. (Yes, I DID lie to a few customers. BUT it was to people that we knew were trying to scam us (I am sorry, but since it is open, you can't return that) or to the complete morons that KNEW they were right (Ok... you CAN refill those ink cartridges (Even though there is a computer chip in each cartridge that shows EXACTLY how much ink was used))
Customers came to me BECAUSE I was honest. My managers told me NOT to say negative things about merchandice, but when I thought it was important, I told a customer when a piece of merchandice had a 90% return rate. My managers hated it, but I felt better NOT having a sale than having a sale of a piece of crap.
I will NEVER be a 'professional' sales man again. I have ALWAYS hated salesmen, from the moment I met my dads co-worker the salesman, I knew that I would do my best to NOT become one. Then I made the ultimate sin: I became a salesman at Depot. But I kept my morals of what was right and what was wrong. I knew I would want the truth. I kept true to my REAL calling: TECH SUPPORT! (I love tinkering with computers!)
Only ONCE did I ever try a sale that I was ashamed of. It was when I was first working at Office Depot. I tried to convince someone to buy a computer, and when I saw the look on her face when she decided she 'needed' the computer and it was way too expensive, I leveled with her and showed her somthing cheaper that would do what she needed. I don't remember if she bought it or not.
Two notes: Whenever we got back our "Mystery Shopper" reports, we (as in the store) always failed if they talked to me BECAUSE I didn't push the sale. MANY times I was told that if I didn't get a better report next time, I would be fired. USUALLY they hit someone else the next month, and I got hit a few months later. Then the cycle repeats itself. I WOULD NOT change my sales method for anyone, and ESPICAILLY not for Office Depot. I didn't care if it meant my job. I had to live with myself. (They kept me on because they had NEVER had anyone that knew the stuff as well as I did. I knew what I was talking about, unlike everyone else there that just repeated what they were told by the 'reps or me.)
ALSO, I absolutely REFUSED to wear the new nametag that said "Consultative Sales Specialist" To me, it sounded like "Hi. My name is Jeremy. How can I scam you today?" I REALLY prefered "Business Machines Specialist." Because thats what I was. A machines specialist, NOT a 'sales specialist.' Hell, if I was a sales specialist, I would go for more money at a car dealership. (PLUS Business Machines Specialist sounded MUCH closer to a tech position.)
Do I care if this rant makes anyone decide to hire me for anything? No. I just don't want people thinking that "Oh, he's a salesman, he is just trying to scam me."
(Look, if you want to know about scamming salesmen, talk to the guy I replaced at Depot. From the first time I met him, he reminded me of an EXTREMELY oily-greasy-slithery scum of the earth sales man that I NEVER wanted to be.)
(OH, FYF, even though the managers did not like my sales methods, TELLING me to be more pushy and threatening me with my job if I didn't, who did they come to when thier computers broke down, eh? WHO did they come to when they wanted to know what computer to REALLY buy? Who did they come to when they wanted to know what cell phone was REALLY the best? Who indeed.)
NOTE: I have not worked at Office Depot in almost 4 months, and I STILL get calls from former co-workers that have technical questions, and recently I went in there and a former co-worker was having problems with the alarm system and asked me for help! (I was the ONLY person in the whole store that could figure out how to make the computer alarm system work.)
OH YEAH! The people in the copy center: Who did they call when they jammed the folding machine? Hell, who did they call to learn how to USE the folding machine (Even though they had the frigging manual in thier hands)?
General: WHO did they call when the cash registers needed to be fixed (weekly)? WHO ended up fixing the computer problems caused by the OFFICIAL tech support guys the company hired? WHO ended up fixing a customers laptop that the Sales Speciailist f$%^ed up trying to "fix" and the store was about to give the guy a new laptop BECAUSE the one salesman couldn't figure out how to get it to work again? WHO did that Sales Specialist call at midnight some night when he was trying to assemble a computer and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working? WHO did the co-workers call (even AFTER they were transfered to other stores) for help on how to do things, both work related and non-work related? Who indeed.
BTW... my job description was this: Sell. Thats it. I was "forbidden" to do any tech support while on duty. (BUT that still didn't prevent the managers from ORDERING me to fix things)
Come to think about it... did I really SELL anything there? Almost dosen't seem like it. (But I did. And *I* had repeat customers. Customers that REFUSED to be helped by ANYONE but me because they trusted me. Now look at them. My "friends" won't give those loyal customers my business cards. Some friends.)
AND WHAT DO THOSE FU#$ERS HAVE THE *BALLS* TO DO? They BEGGED me to come back! They told me that the Sam (The long term bit#%) was gone, and that I was the best thing that ever happened to that store. AFTER ALL THAT THEY DID TO ME. ALL THAT I WENT THOUGH. *ALL THAT F#$%ING TORMENT AND HARASSMENT I WENT THOUGH?* NO FREAKING WAY. Hell, I have told them that I do not want to even *SHOP* there or set a single foot in that building (I only go there to talk to two TRUE friends), and they expect me to crawl back to them and take back that lousy job? No way. EVERYONE there didn't think I had the guts to leave. I even TOLD them that I had planned to leave before the Gathering 99 soon after the Gathering 98 was over!
(Although, it DID have great business contacts... NO WAY. NEVER. NA-DA. UNLESS they offer me $35 an hour or more, and then ONLY for tech support.)
(And some people wonder why I don't like Office Depot! This isn't even 5% of the crap that I went though. 75% of the crap I put up with was due, wether directly or indirectly, with the b#%ch. REALLY long story, and if there is enough interest, I will tell it.)
<>END MINI-RANT!<>
Guess that wasn't that much of a MINT-rant after all!
Song: Does anyone know the instrumental song that The Verve's "Bitter-Sweet Symphony" is based on? Also, does anyone know what the Starship Troopers: Roughnecks theme song is based on?
<PRAISE//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 04:29:52 AM
IP: 216.90.45.162
Hi, quick post.
Aaron: You have the Soulstone embedded in your forehead? Oh, things are not looking good for your karma then, I'd say.
Theresa: Like the recipe. It looks like just the thing for my great-grandmother's centennial, in December 2001 (and no, she knows nobody by the name HAL). She has a lot of descendants, believe me.
Well, gotta scoot, but not before a brief Joyride.
**THE JOYRIDE O'BLOOD**
Cthulhu and Ebon materialize somewhere outside the Santa Cruz city limits. Jack Hammer looks around, slightly fazed.
"Well, guess we don't have to worry about those cops anymore. Not that I ever worried."
Warpmind leans forward.
"Yeah, but you know what? We should find somewhere secluded, somewhere we can get out of the car in peace, without the risk of being disturbed."
"I think we're all sufficiently disturbed already." Xanathar quips.
"Oh, ha ha. I was referring to Hanson in the trunk. So, where do you think we should go to play with them?"
Jack turns the key.
"I dunno, let's take a vote, eh?"
**TO BE CONTINUED!**
Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 04:11:14 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
****NO RP!!!****
I'm tired.
You know it's just not fair. When other people get tired, they get to fall asleep, but me I never get a good nights sleep. Had that problem for about...a year now.
Coyote- She asks that to everyone. I don't even remember her being on the computer (I should know, it's in my room) how long did you talk to her?
B5 quotes- I bought this book that gives some of the funniest quotes, I'll give some more later, but here's a blooper when Kosh has left his suit in front of everyone in order to save the captain from falling to his death after a bombing. Some asks Londo what he saw...he was supposed to say, "Nothing" but instead he says, "I thought I thaw a puddie cat! I did!"
Well I'll write more soon.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 02:04:45 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net
Sorry all just a few short replies tonight.
Tod jensen-Not just the W.b , nickelodeon been doing it too. In a recent ep of the wild thornberries [taking place in australia] The buchtoothed one tries to get her sister to forget something so she visits a shaman and her tells her of the Dream time. This guy talked the exact way that the shaman in walkabout talked , I screamed when I heard it.
Deuce Wilek- believe me I'm not calming down whilst he's here , he just got here and is talkng with my mom. It's almost midnight.
Deuce-I wasn't thinking vampire , more like an incubus type.
Wilek-glad you liked it. THAT SHOULD BE THE OFFICIAL TGS SHIRT . WHEN WE WALK AROUND WITH THEM EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT WE MEAN BUISNESS.agree?
Starsinger-just wondering , do you ever go on the webtv chat room , I was just there. It's pretty fast.
Well that's all boys and girls , time for night walker to get some sleep. Where exactly are we on the battle by the way?
goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters. love to all of you.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:45:45 AM
IP: proxy-443.public.paix.webtv.net
**RP!**
["So, apparently, the Phalanx have set up shop somewhere in Africa, most probably in the Northern Hemisphere." This from Commander Khesaat to Agent Rho, in the latter's ready room. Rho: "Hm...we've suspected that for a while now. Did the ambassador say where, exactly, the base was?" Khesaat: "He doesn't know. We figure the most likely location is in Egypt, near one of the two cities that some mercenary cyborg--Jackal, I believe was his name--reduced to ashes and rust a few years ago. They've been quarantined ever since; they'd be perfect for an operation like this." Rho: "Very well. We'll send out a squadron or two of TIE Vanguards. A Phalanx-infested structure can't be that difficult to find, not with a Vanguard's sensor package..."]
**END RP!**
Christine> Seen the Cartoon Network's commercial for something called 'The Scooby Doo Project'? ;)
Sarge> <<They are starting construction today on my house. Everything in my room and my computer room has been moved so I am living downstairs.>> Ugh, I've had to move my stuff once or twice for renovation. It's a PAIN.
Xanathar> <<Well what a Cr@p weekend!!,everything that could go wrong did go wrong,My internet connection went haywire last week and now I can't access my Email,Re-installing the software only made things worse(I'm only able to post here because I'm exploiting a bug in the install program)I'll be getting a new isp sometime this week>> ACK! There's been a lot of computer trouble going on lately. [Wilek looks around, fearing the worst...]
Skippy> <<So, your familiar with Bob Larson?>> Yup. I don't know how this idiot can dare to call himself a Christian, not after the way he's bilked darn near everyone associated with him. I'm not a member of the Fan Club (unless it's less formal than I think it is?), but I'm a frequent visitor to the site. People like him really, *really* tick me off. Still...he's but an amusing freak compared to <shudder> Fred Phelps... <<What's pathetic is what passes for a demon in Bob's world>> Don't I know it. Convenient how they seem to follow FCC guidelines regarding language and such. If any of the demons from my ficverse (Aiwaz, Renon, Mephisto, Asmodeus, one or two others) were to get a hold of him...oh, how I'd like to see that.
Deuce> <<Butch and Cassidy (*chortle*) are SO much cooler than Jessie & James; their revised motto—similar to J&J's, yet distorted—gives me chills.>> Hm...I'm going to have to find a transcript of that...<<Of course, I cried at the end of "Pikachu's Goodbye">> I haven't seen that episode, but I do have the soundtrack, and that's one of the saddest songs I've ever heard. <<Yeah, Zip drives are almost more trouble than they're worth. ALMOST.>> I have a Ditto Max drive by the same company. The thing is SO temperamental. I can access the 120 megs or so of the 'Flash-File' section of the tape, but...the backup program doesn't work. Um...WTF?! THE @$%^@#%#ING THING IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD 7GB! <sigh> 120MB is barely enough to hold all my MIDs and MP3s!
Speaking of Pokemon...anyone notice that Jesse's a good deal more twisted than James? James, at least, seems to have some shred of conscience. (I primarily noticed this in the lighthouse ep. James seemed to have qualms about, oh, FIRING A ROCKET LAUNCHER at one of the larger Pokemon.)
Jenna> <<you mentioned last week that there was a way to put an orginal score on the web as a midi? Would you contact me about that?>> It's simple, actually--there's a program called MusicMagic that allows one to create a MID file by putting notes on a staff. There are a few others like this at www.midisoft.com (I think). If you like, I can e-mail you my copy.
Wandering Pokemon fan> Welcome. ;)
Night walker> Get rid of this guy (Mom's boyfriend) NOW. Any way you possibly can. I don't know how or why, but I just know this guy is up to no good. I have a bad feeling that your fears are justified. At the very least, he's planning to take advantage of your mom. At the worst...<shudder> I'd rather not think about it... <<Mine would be a full body drawing of Goliath looking down at a body in a pool of blood , in the backround there's goofy trembling with fear , realizing that he's next, but had just enough time to say , OH MY GOD, HE KILLED MICKY.>> <evil grin> I love it. MUHAHAHAHA!
Coyote> <<Gawd, I hope you are who I *think* you are, wPf ... otherwise I'll hit a new level of embarrassment ...>> I wouldn't worry (did some IP snooping in the archives). ;)
Taleweaver> <<I don't know if it's a rule in the animated universe, but is should be. When ever you have a song or a diddy or some lengthy transformation scene, the opposite side just stands there and watches>> One of the VERY FEW redeeming moments of Power Rangers was, early in their Turbo phase, a few monsters attacked the Turbo Zords while they were forming into Turbo Megazord. I couldn't help but wonder why it hadn't been tried before.
$Robby> Black Tiger is WHO...?! Wow...and here I thought he was Jim. Too much Reboot I guess. <G>$
Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 20, 1999 11:53:50 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
No RP tonight. Had one heck of a long day. Had to spend the day talking with victims advocates (for my Administration of Justice courses) and also had to ride along and observe a neighborhood watch....gee, there's 2 hours of my life I won't ever get back.
X-Men Movie News: Joss Whedon's rewrite of the X-Men movie script has officially been rejected. There goes all my hope that the movie will be really cool....
Beast Machines: My theory is that the drones are the citizens of Cybertron. They've been turned into drones by Megatron, sorta like how Dr. Robotnik imprisoned all of Sonic's animal friends in robot shells. Probably wrong, just a theory.
TV Evangelists: I'm extremely wary of them. I don't think most of them are really who they say they are (i.e. Christians). Some of them live in mansions, drive a Lexus, and still ask us to send money "so God can hear your prayers with priority". BS. If money was the way into Heaven, I think most of us in here would be screwed. God doesn't need anybody else to tell him your prayers, nor did Christ mean for religion to be a money-making scheme (why do you think he got so p.o'ed at the men selling sacrifices in the temple....I'm sorry, that was an obscure Sunday School lesson...). I don't buy into it. There's like, one televangelist that I do trust, only cause I've met the guy and he seemed on the level, and at least not too nutty as a fruitcake.
Pokemon: I initially hated this show. I watched the first episode, and I thought "What the @#$& is this???" But it's just too dern cute to hate. And Pikachu is the cutest rat I've ever seen. :)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, September 20, 1999 11:06:43 PM
IP: 207-172-41-39.s39.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Okay, lets try this again... **Glares at DC** You know, its times like this I'm glad I invented you because you soooo deserve to have the snot beat out of you! **Proceeds to beat the snot out of Dis Connect**
SJ- COmputer troubles suck man. Sorry about that, but we all get nailed in similar ways sometimes...
Green Baron- If the Final Fantasy games were all conencted, we'd be quite confused right now since two games never came here and the series has spanned three different systems... Incidentally, the Moogles are also Secret of Mana...
**POKEMON STUFF**
As I just said, I balled like crazy during the "Pikachu's Goodbye" episode, despite knowing how it turned out! It was that sad and well done! ANd this weekend's episode with Charizard vs. Magmar had a really great moment in it...
Namely the revelation that Misty has stopped trailing Ash to get him to pay for her bike, but rather because she enjoys his and Brock's and Pikachu's company and such... Quite a sweet moment until she remembered he owed her a bike... ANd it was fun seeing Squirtle's shades return in today's episode...
**END POKEMON STUFF**
Deuce- Eesh, I recall when this room hated Pikachu... Of course at the time, we were judging it as a marketing device the likes of Furby, and most of us hadn't actually seen the show at the time...
Aaron- Goliath saying "Don't make me use the spank ray"? Wha? What'd I say to inspire that vision?
Taleweaver- Actually, that's anime law number 44. Law of Uninterruptable Metamorphasis.
Regardless of how long or involved the transformation sequence or how many times they've seen it, any bad guys witnessing a mecha/hero tranforming are too stunned to do anything to interupt it.
But actually, in Voltron, Lotor tried on at least two occassions to stop the tranformation. Seems when Voltron is forming, it puts out a huge electric shield that stops all attacks totally short...
And Jesse and James get their speech interupted pretty often actually... Pokemon is only deceptivley simple at first. They'res quite a bit more to it once you've seen some. There's a lot about friendship and love involved in a lot of episodes thats handled really well... I can't recall the last time any other show made me cry!
Batman Beyond "heroes" episode- You know, this episode pissed me off. If at the end they had said "Dedicated to Jack Kirby" or "Dedicated to Stan Lee", it would have been okay, but as it is, I can't help but believe the writer was just lazy in blatantly ripping off the Fantastic FOur... (As it never seemed to have that "tribute" feel, the characters just had the looks, personalities, and powers of the FF...
**RP HERE**
Jim's clone has come to a decision. "All right, I'll throw a party!"
Celebratory shouts erupt, everyone knows how good Jim's parties usually are. And then Jim's clone goes into a round of Hakuna Matata, perfectly mimicking all four voices and the background instrumentals...
"How DOES he do that?"
"Hmm. Probably has something to do with the crossing of human and sandshrew vocal cords..." SJ comments.
It is then that Kari approaches Black Tiger.
"You know, you seem familiar to me somehow... Have we met before?"
"Um, er... Not really..."
"You sure? I coulda sworn I know you from someplace..."
Black Tiger gulped. "I assure you, if you knew who I was, you'd know that I've never met you before Aunt Kari. But for now, I'd prefer not to let you know who I am. Okay?"
Kari shrugged. "Okay... Wait a minute... AUNT Kari? Who are you anyway? And why is it earlier you said you'd heard legends about the cyber smurf when none of us had ever heard of him before?"
Black Tiger gulped again and then sighed and then shook his head. "All right, I suppose I can tell you the truth. I'd have to at some point or another..." He pulled off his mask, revealing a face quite similar to Jim's, and a shock of black hair. Kari gasped a little at the resemblance. Black TIger continued speaking. "My mother was the wererat Ratina Punzara... And my father... The human Jim Iza Noying. I am Musoke Punzara Noying. The son of Jim."
Kari stared at her "nephew". "But... But you're older than I am... How..."
"I suppose I need to explain..."
Robby
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:56:55 PM
IP: spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com
**Robby enters and kills DC**
Stupid jerk just kicked me off right before I submitted a post I'd spent an hour on! Grr... So I'll say everything I just said later when I'm more in the mood to do right now. For now I'll just say that yes, I also cried during "Pikachu's Goodbye". SUch a sad episode!
Robby
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:18:19 PM
IP: spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com
** Deuce strolls in, rare Smashing Pumpkins B-sides coming in with him. **
OK, guys, for S.P. MP3s 'n' stuff, see Bob. He's got the MAD songs... and if you had read Penny Arcade like I told you to, you'd get that!!! Click my name already!!!
"Wandering Pokémon fan"> ["If it hadn't turned out the way it did, I would have easily been scarred for life."] No freakin' kidding. I would have been screaming and tearing at my hair _in addition to_ sobbing. I'm a sucker. ["Anybody else realize how often he cross-dresses?"] Yeah, I think he might be a little "light in the loafers", as my English 9 teacher liked to say. ("Not that there's anything _wrong_ with that!") Not just the way he dresses, either....
nightwalker> ["Everytime I'm around him I get really nervous. Instincts. I've never felt this way about any of her other boyfriends."] Shit.... Listen, I don't want you to overreact, because even Spider-Man's spider sense misfires... but be REALLY FRIGGIN' CAREFUL. You're right, he sounds creepy... he might be a vampire or something. ;-) j/k—you should be so lucky, you could stake him with a pencil— but watch out. Oh, yeah, if you ever need to talk, or just vent, my email address is down there. If you want something less silly, use <deuce@softhome.net>.
(Sabriel is the protagonist from an excellent book by the same name, and I'm in love with her. She's a NECROMANCER, for Pete's sake, and she's a young lady, and she's got attitude. How cool is that?)
***OBVIOUS SPOILERS FOR "PIKACHU'S GOODBYE"!***
Coyote> ["..only tearjerker ep I've seen all the way through was "Bye Bye Butterfree."] Yeah, it was like that, but with Pikachu, cuter flashbacks, and sadder music, and Ash was crying and... *cries a little* Hey, it was REALLY sad. But Pikachu didn't really leave. Duh. :-)
***END SPOILERS!***
Coyote still> ["Would Jesus wear a Rolex/On his television show?"] Ohhhh... that's really good. Could I get the full lyrics?
jewel> Yeah, Zip drives are almost more trouble than they're worth. ALMOST. o_O
Anyway, my little brother should be home from karate soon, so I should take off. I'm not supposed to be on the computer.
** leaves slowly, as "Czarina" by the Pumpkins fades out. **
Deuce - [sabriel's_man@curtain.cjb.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 09:00:17 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
SJ: I hear you on the computer. My laptop is dying and has been since I got it. I've given up, and am now just watching it die, cause I don't have the benjamins for a new one (and insult to injury was done when I saw an add today for the new Mac G4's, and almost started drooling). My Linux box is also a piece of work--I spent all this weekend trying to figure out why it recognized my zip drive when I had RedHat 5.2, but when I upgraded to Mandrake 6.0, it decided my zip didn't exist. I'm going to have to install it by hand, and I don't even wanna think about how long that's gonna take me.
Pokemon: I never saw the appeal. It's an odd little show...but "Pikachu" has to be just the *cutest* name, and if I ever get a Sheltie, I'm naming it that.
jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Monday, September 20, 1999 08:06:19 PM
IP: 207-172-75-97.s97.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com
Jenna> Don't worry about quoting the Bible and sounding like a zealot, I've dealt with some hard-core "Branch Larsonians" (Bob Larson supporters) who are quicker to quote and missue the Bible than anyone. The biggest problem with these people is their brain dead mindset...
Interesting fact of the day> here is a sign Anime has finally hit mainstream status. The Harriet Carter is featuring a DragonBall Z episode through their latest catalog. The tape is titled Captian Ginyu Assault (I haven't seen DBZ since the trip to Namek episodes so I dont' know this one) It's on page 31 along with the Left-handed coffee mug, the expandable cabinet organizer, and the WCW action figure walkie talkies :)
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, September 20, 1999 08:04:13 PM
IP: uv1-55.ultravision.net
Some of you might recall that creativity demon that I had once where Jackal and Hyena have an encounter with Team Rocket, and launch an attack on them while they're still reciting their "Team Rocket" motto.
Does anybody get the feeling that WB may be cribbing from "Gargoyles" in some of its animated adventure series? The scene in the "Heroes" episode of "Batman Beyond" (the one involving the Fantastic Four "ripoffs") where the Terrific Trio rescues the Councillor's family from the terrorists still reminds me a bit of the scene at the beginning of "City of Stone" where the gargoyles rescue the yuppie couple from the bank robbers.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, September 20, 1999 07:54:38 PM
IP: 216.87.46.237.dialup-stl.primary.net
Dragon stew> Remind me to share my recipe of Chavlier de Tartar. Or course ground up a knight's body is a chore. And given a choice, dragons like all animals go after real food, humans taste lousy. By the way, dragon's aren't that easy to kill.
Pokemon> Don't care for it much. After the third ep it got very predictable to me. I don't know if it's a rule in the animated universe, but is should be. When ever you have a song or a diddy or some lengthy transformation scene, the opposite side just stands there and watches. If Ash and his friends were smart as soon as Team Rocket started in on their song and dance, they'd pick up some rocks or sticks or anything and start throwing. The same can be said of the villians. I don't know how many times I watched the old Voltron, waiting for the ro-beast to attack while they formed up. Or in MIB when the guy morphs out of his human skin. At least with tranformers most of the guys transform so fast you get around that. But that's my mini-rant.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 07:02:48 PM
IP: 134.71.32.54
AAACK!! So concerned about embarrassing myself misidentifying the wandering Pokemon fan, I misidentified Mandolin as Heather!! **knocks self hard about the head and shoulders** Sorry, Mandi.
Coyote the Embarrassed Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 20, 1999 07:02:01 PM
IP: modem31.i-is.com
Green Baron> just type in Elizabeth Heritage, or Mary for the nickname. :)
Mary Flanders
Monday, September 20, 1999 06:48:21 PM
IP: stk-ts3-h2-20-107.ispmodems.net
**enters the room, brushing lightly against the wandering Pokemon fan on her way out the door. Gives her a brief hug and whispers "come back to us soon" in her ear before returning to his trek, as she does hers ... out.**
Gawd, I hope you are who I *think* you are, wPf ... otherwise I'll hit a new level of embarrassment ... **sits in the massage chair after switching out the candles**
SJ: Bummer on yer fights with technology, dude. Here's hopin' it all comes out in the end for ye.
Heather: Congrats!
Fire Storm: Yeesh, that sucks! **sigh** Ah well ...
Night Walker: I'll be replying to the e-mail ye sent shortly, friend ...
Wilek and Skippy, re: televangelists: Ahh, I see ... you've gotta include Oral Roberts on that list (oh yeah, the guy who said God was gonna kill him unless his flock gave him $10 million. HAH!).
To tell the truth, I see these televangelists who beg for money and all I can think of is the Ray Stevens song "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex?" ... goes a little bit like this in the refrain:
Would He wear a pinky ring,
Would He drive a fancy car?
Would His wife wear pearls and diamonds,
Would His dressing room have a star?
If He came back tomorrow,
There's something I'd like to know (can ya tell me)
Would Jesus wear a Rolex
On his television show?
Pokemon stuff: Actually, someone on one of the Pokemon fansites actually created a "Gargoyle" Pokemon. Don't recall what exactly it was able to do, but it looked like a miniaturized amalgamation of Brooklyn and Goliath.
Christine: I have duly signed the card. Oh, and check the Adult CR, I left a message there for ye.
wandering Pokemon fan: I have noticed how much James tends to cross-dress ... but I've also liked the eps they've done when heavy character development's been done on him. In fact, my absolute favorite James-related ep I've seen (in fact the only one) was when his parents faked their deaths. Lots of soul-baring in that ep.
Incidentally, I wish I'd been able to see the whole thing of "Pikachu's Goodbye" ... only tearjerker ep I've seen all the way through was "Bye Bye Butterfree."
**sits back in the massage chair, a little more cheerful in his fixation than in previous nights.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, September 20, 1999 06:45:01 PM
IP: modem31.i-is.com
Dark Crystal: DERN LOT BOYS! It was supposed to be released on DVD Tuesday, but got pushed back to October 5. :(
Geez... this post wasn't even long enough to give praise to <FIRST_THOUGHT//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Clickie my link for SLUGGY FREELANCE! A great twisted comic strip!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 06:19:25 PM
IP: t2-31.visitus.net
Just a really short post now. I'll come back later with my usual sized one.
Chris- To add on what I said last night , I know at least one of you is pretty skeptical about what I said, but believe me I wasn't exagerating. I'll explain further. My mother has only known him for about three months [We've known him for about three weeks] and he's already been spending his nights here. They're already talking of all of us moving together. And he doesn't know me at all , and he is already talking of buying me a computer at cristmas, and a car when I get my liscence in two years. Last night he bought her [mom] a T.V. and a VCR. I think so far he's spent about a total of $600 buck on my brother and me, IN THREE AND A HALF WEEKS. This is getting too wierd. What should I tell her, that I don't like him. She's asked before if I did , BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HIM. Everytime I'm around him I get really nervous. Instincts. I've never felt this way about any of her other boyfriends. I just don't know what to think anymore.
Friendship- Deuce, could you teel that I was extremly nervous when I said that in my last post. It was just something I had to say. I've seen you guys tell that to each other before but for some reason it took me a while to type it. It like my fingers wouldn't move. Typing down my emotions at that time really helped. It made it more real. But it pained me to say it knowing that I'll probaly never see any of you. But you know what. Chris doesn't care what he watches on t.v. , he'll actually sit through an ep. I don't think he actually likes it , I think it's his way of getting my trust. Now that I've leaned [and am planning to use] this maybe my mom will actually relax and just see why I loooove this show so much. I'll probaly have to explain alot since I've lost so many eps.[still don't know what happened to them] but it might change something.
Gathering-Just in case, could one of you who have been to a gathering please e-mail me everybit of information that you have about the event , EVERY BIT. I need to go to one of these.
New topic-I came up with this today . If the GFW put out a merchandise room and they needed ideas for a t-shirt that would express our feelings about it's current state and they needed EVERYBODY that comes here to send their ideas , what would yours be? Mine would be a full body drawing of Goliath looking down at a body in a pool of blood , in the backround there's goofy trembling with fear , realizing that he's next, but had just enough time to say , OH MY GOD, HE KILLED MICKY. Also designs for a TGS CR official t-shirt.
That was a bit longer than I thought it would be , oh well.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Monday, September 20, 1999 05:26:51 PM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net
I have a friend who forwards interesting things from the SCA cooks list.
TaleWeaver, I had considered just letting you know about this one, but I think it's too silly not to share.
Starsinger
Who is NOT doing the dishes on this one.
Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:03:48 EDT
From: Tollhase1@aol.com
Reply-To: sca-cooks@Ansteorra.ORG
To: sca-cooks@Ansteorra.ORG
Subject: Re: SC - Dragon Stew (recipe)Period Political Correctness
In a message dated 9/15/99 11:56:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, THLRenata@aol.com writes:
<< 1 medium-sized stewing dragon
1 acre potatoes
3 wains large yellow onions
4 carts carrots
3 bushels peas
2 pecks garlic
1 bay leaf
A goodly-sized rock
Directions:
Feed garlic to the dragon, reserving 2 cloves. After 1 hour, take the rock and pund the dragon smartly betwixt the eyes. Repeat as necessary. Flense dragon and dredge lightly in flour. Put cubed dragon in a phenomenally
large
cauldron and add enough spring water to cover. Bring to a boil whilst peeling and dicing vegetables. Add vegetables and spices, including the 2 remaining cloves of garlic. Lower flame and let simmer until the dragon is tender -- about a fortnight. Serves 500 villagers or one large troll.
As I said, I've never tried it myself -- no place to store the leftovers, since I don't have 500 villagers or a troll. But it is nicely calligraphed and illustrated and hangs in my kitchen.
My dear lady,:-)
Not to be one of those food boors,BBBUUUTTTT, (Warning political Correctness police) Potatoes are not period unless this is a new world recipe or verrry late spanish. I had believed that other than the dragons in Indonesia, most dragons are now an endangered species and thus protected by international law. Are you sure your recipe is redacted properly or that your source is valid. At best this would be a period like dish. Why spread the historical inaccuracy.
And Your butchering method is barbaric. Hitting the animal until dead could take awhile and thus cause the animal undue pain and suffering. IF you can't put the animal down in one blow its cruel and human.
And the cooking method, over a fire would use so much wood that you would deforest a national park. You would be responsible for Acid rain, and the ozone layer thinning if not disappearing entirely. Thus either enteral cold or warming depending upon which RUM theory you follow.
And Send me that beautiful item hanging in your kitchen. I will personally examine it in my kitchen for accuracy for a while. Trust me.:->
Frederich
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Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 05:05:49 PM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net
Aaron wanders into the CR, dragging a huge red, leathery skin. For some reason, he seems to have a large red gemstone stuck in his forehead.
Hehheh, the Dark One is dead. Maybe now I can get back to work. And for the record, this (indicates jewel) was not my idea, and yes, it hurts like you would not believe.
Robby> Thanks a lot. Now I can't get the image of Goliath saying "Don't make me use the spank ray."
Christine> Richard O'Brian was in Dark City a few years back. He looked about the same, actually.
****************Review w/spoilers for Stigmata*************
I liked Stigmata. I like Patricia Arquette, I *loved* Gabrial Byrne, and the demonic attack scenes are very scary, especially the voice overlay trick.
Stigmata had the makings of a really great movie. Unfortunatly, it wimped out in the last twenty minutes, and went for the happy ending by having Frankie only being possessed by the spirit of the dead priest, and by letting her live.
Imagine how much scarier it would have been if she had not been possessed by the priest, by by the spirit of Jesus Christ himself. Which would make Cardinal Houseman sort of a Vatican Cancerman, forever covering the truth to keep a corrupt power structure in place.
Scary to watch, but the film falls apart in reflection.
Aaron Bob says 3/5 skulls, see it at a matinee.
************End Review**********************************
Later.
Aaron wanders off, humming "The Torturer's Apprentice" from the Adventures of Baron Munchausen, and dragging the skin behind him.
Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, September 20, 1999 04:42:54 PM
IP: ppp-247.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net
Deuce> Yeah, I was bawling like halfway through "Pikachu's Goodbye." If it hadn't turned out the way it did, I would have easily been scarred for life. ;)
By the way, guys, Team Rocket rules! I happen to adore James. He's so silly! Anybody else realize how often he cross-dresses? And Pikachu is just the most adorable thing in the whole universe...
just a wandering Pokemon fan...
Monday, September 20, 1999 04:25:51 PM
IP: svm-ts2-14.c2i2.com
Wilek-- you mentioned last week that there was a way to put an orginal score on the web as a midi? Would you contact me about that?
jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Monday, September 20, 1999 01:49:30 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
***DC DEATH!***
** Deuce enters on a huge throne-style chair coming out of the wall. He is wearing ornate robes and blue lipstick. Dis Connect is dragged forth, and made to kneel before the throne. **
Dis Frigging Connect! You stand accused of the following crimes: That you did, the weekend of September 17, cause Softhome's intended upgrade of their email servers to go awry, causing a 36-hour downtime with no positive result! That you did, over the same time period, refuse to connect Simon "Deuce" Crowley at speeds higher than 9600 bps! That you, when Mr. Crowley sucked it up and attempted to post to this CR, prevented it from going through! That you completely screwed up Anton Sevarius Jr.'s computer! HOW DO YOU PLEAD?
** DC whimpers, but says nothing. **
GUILTY! ** Deuce leaps off the throne, sheds the robes, wipes off the lipstick, and proceeds to dismember DC with a pizza slicer dipped in lemon juice. **
***END DC DEATH!***
I know, anti-climactic. :-P Sorry I wasn't around much last week: when I wasn't busy, DC was doing the voodoo that he does so well....
nightwalker> *hugs* We love you too, man. And I know all about long-winded mothers on the phone.... Got an aunt that lives an hour and a half away. ["That should be a good thing , but it's .......creepy."] Um... I'm a big fan of "trust your instincts"... Don't get paranoid, but keep your eyes open.
Team Rocket: Their boss is Giovanni, the eighth gym leader from the game; he will be seen in the movie (NOVEMBER 12!!!). Butch and Cassidy (*chortle*) are SO much cooler than Jessie & James; their revised motto—similar to J&J's, yet distorted—gives me chills. (Of course, I cried at the end of "Pikachu's Goodbye" :-P). Anyone have a transcript of it?
More Pokémon stuff: Season 2 has STARTED IN CANADA!!! Oh, yeah... Today at 5:00 is when All New Episodes start. I'm so thrilled....
Sarge> ["I decided to do a Pokemon/gargoyles crossover."] Back when the room was in its "Hating Pokémon" phase, we envisioned Goliath just stepping on Pikachu. ("Pi...ka...." *splat*)
NEWBIES!!! ** Deuce kicks aside some of the remains of DC and runs for his sanity vacuum. He returns, flicks it on, and sucks all of the normalcy and sanity out of the newcomes. **
SOROW> Unexplainable melancholy? I know what that's like. Listen to happy music or remember someone who loves you, that usually helps me. If not, I break something. o_O
Oh, yeah: click my name for a major cool-ass comic strip: Penny Arcade. It is SO funny. It does tend to get PG-13 at times, so be warned, those of weak stomach or mind.
I guess I'm done here. Be back tomorrow.
** Deuce pulls a mop from a pocket universe, and cleans up DC's little lemon-bloody mess. He then leaves. **
Deuce - [abhorsen@curtain.cjb.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 01:42:41 PM
IP: edtn001958.hs.telusplanet.net
One week left to sign Greg's birthday card! Clickie clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/greg_bday_99.html
Re: Terminator > funny, I just watched it at work last night, and guess what brand name can clearly be read on his sunglasses? ; ) Oh, what a great movie. Seamless time travel, a strong tormented hero; wonderful, wonderful film!
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:32:42 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net
Because of the nature of my last post, I'm setting this comment aside--
skippy-- about your rant-- that is terrible. I really hate it when people try to make a buck off God, or by expliting people like that--I don't want to sound like a zealot, or a bible thumper- ect, but in Mark 9:42 it says that it's better to be have a millstone tied around your neck, and thrown into the sea than to exploit God or relgion like that- food for thought
jenna
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:28:54 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
comes in and clears throat-- uhm, I just heard something that I'm telling everyone I know- so I'm posting this message here alonge with some other places---WOMEN ESP. READ THIS POST!!!
My coworker sent me an em that was a Heloise letter-- in it it related a story about how this girl took her car to the dealer ship to get it looked at. She gave her key ring to the guys there, and it had her house key on it. Sometime during the day, someone made a copy of her house key and looked up her licence information on the computer, to find out where she lived, her phone number ect. Two weeks later this individual came into her house at night when she was alone and raped her. He was later identified by the woman and caught, and thrown in jail. It comes out that he did this to a number of women. -------The point of this story-- keep your personal house keys on a seperate ring and give them to no one--- I just wanted to let the women of this room to be aware of this-- you can't be too careful nowadays, and the scary thing is-- I've handed my keys off to anyone for a long time. Not any more--glad my car maintance is all done at home.
Men of this room, tell the women in your lives this story. It really happened.----
jenna
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:18:11 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
BTW: check myname link on the rant to get the full scoop on Ol' Beg Boy Bob
Skippy (Again)
Monday, September 20, 1999 11:59:46 AM
IP: uv1-35.ultravision.net
Wilek> So, your familiar with Bob Larson? I'm part of the Bob Larson Fan Club, a group of detractors and petty nusiances. A bunch of us are getting together in Dallas to protest this rally he's got planned around Halloween.
***Warning: Anti-Televangelist Rantings***
The BLFC has done a pretty good job of getting this slimy little turd off the air. Back in the early 90's Bob had over 200 radio markets, but after news of his adultery, questionable real-estate deals, and even more questionable associates (Pastor Terry Smith -one of the members of his Board of Ministers- was caught stealing condoms:) his status in the Christian Media has been declining. Right now he has around two dozen markets he's playing in with Dallas being his only major one. And all of this due to a handful of us people spreading the word...
Of course BegBoy (our favorite description of him :) is as tenaciuos as a cockroach and isn't gonna dissapear so easily. With his radio empire crumbling, he started going on a public appearance tour performing "live" exorcisms at various rallies across the country. Of course, when the shill he delivered from demons over in Tulsa showed back up full o' demons again in Lubbock, even the local media noticed this fact. To cover his rear, Bob comes up with this line about "progressive deliverance" which is quite heretical by most theological standards.
Bob's big thing now is that he is franchising his demon-busting business. He has come up with the DWJD (Do What Jesus Did -or as we call it- Drain Wallets, Jesus Decreed) For only $4000 you can become part of Bob's elite, intercessory team. It's pretty much his own little cult of Zealots. I found out that the Dallas branch is setting up a demonization hotline and have regular meetings to help free people of money er, demons.
What's pathetic is what passes for a demon in Bob's world. Just recently Bob exorcised an evil spirit of heartburn from one woman (I kid you not!) And since the worst thing these demons do is spit, growl and yell "I hate you" , they ain't got nothing on the demons in Stigmata...
Just for kicks, I've been threatening to call up these DWJD folks, tell them some tale of demonic opression and go totally Linda Blair on their ass >:)
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Monday, September 20, 1999 11:51:46 AM
IP: uv1-35.ultravision.net
I just forgot.
::Big hugs:: Welocme back, Frauline Stormy :)
Green Baron
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:59:36 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102
RP WARNING!!!
**Marshall Applewhite and his followers are at a resvoir about to send their Y2Koolaid into the drinking supply whne they are stopped by this wierd sensation pulsing through each of them.
"Master is dead. We need new master. Do master now?"
At that moment, the Demon Ted Turner appears and makes an announcemnet to the Heaven's Gate cult, "I am your new leader. Follow me and we shall send this world to teh Second level and put an end to the feline minister your old master warned you about. Now onward to our new goals."
Ted Turner flies away and his cult follows, except for an angry Marshall Applewhite who wanted to lead the cult.
Menawhile, in another part of the country, the remaining WCOC self-thinking herectics are fleeing the Schoolgirl scouts, as well as GB and Attila the Hun. Eventually, they are routed and brutally executed, save one who was a spy for Reverend Attila the whole time.
"Yes, these men were following pastor John and ultimately Cromwell. Ted Turner has also recieved his new power from Cromwell and his demonic servants. Of course, they were a diversion for a war Ted's Hollywood liberals are planning against your cat, and Ted's other allies including CNN's goons and the Planeteers will be forming an attack..arrrghhh!!!"
The informant slumps over dead and the evil limey Liberal Christopher Hitchens stands over him with some twisted device. "You heard that much, chaps, but that won't be enough to save you and your friends. We will still defeat your plans and Northern Ireland shall never be returned to it's rightful nation, nor will Scotland ever be free. Ha! Ha! Ha! Tallyho, now. I'm off to help Cornwall trash Pope Pius XII."
The slimy journalist dissapears leaving only an orange cloud in his abscence.**
Doug> $I ahve a new RP villain, that libelous prick I mentioned named John Cornwall. He worte a book trying to brand Pope Pius XII as a NAZI sympathizer. Plus, I've added Christopher Hitchens, the bloody journalist who trashed Mother Teresa. When teh Scouts are through with them, they'll definitely need to go to Confession :)$
Hello all. Yes, I have delurked. In good news, I got the highest grade on my Constitutional Law quiz. the bad news, it was an 82. The class is interesting, though the Professor and I do not have the same views. Luckily, he cares more about us understanding the stuff and less about our ideology. I wish the Liberal Arts departments in other Universities were so open minded.
Sarge> I know a fan who lives in Vermont. She posts on teh Adult CR and she uses AOL, but it may not be my place to give away too much more information. You'll find her on the Gargoyles Fan Registry under Demona.
Fanfic news> I have written up my firts fanfic. It shoudl be all submitted to electronic text by teh next few days. Anyone want to critique it once I have it typed?
Pistoff> I'm afraid my cat won't be able to embezzle any more money from me, but maybe we can try and hack into soembody else's account :)
Zath> I don't knwo if they'll pay you back. My Uncle lent out mone to his roomies and tehy never paid him back, and he lent out a ton of money, especially if adjusted by the Risk free rate of interest and 70s inflation :)
Nightwalker> I'm gald you liked m e-mails. Yours were distributed to others on my list as well :) Feel free to respond to the non-joke e-mail I sent you.
For those of you who remember Lawrence Stone, he hasn't been posting in a while and he's been under some stress, so lets; hope he gets better.
JEB, Jenniren, and Kyryn> We all miss you. I hope you're reading this.
Military comments> To whoever commented on enlisted, my cousin Tom (little Tommy's dad) is an Army Sergeant and he is a pretty normal guy, though very quiet, though he ahs always been very quiet, just look his wife, though she may be more quiet because English isn't her first language.
Gunjack> I disagree with you about consolidating the Armed services, especially since each one serves a unique purpose, and the Marines are connected to the Navy, while the Air Force used to be the US Army Air Coprs, and it is also teh professional wing of the Armed Forces, which is why I'm joining after College to get my butter bars :)
Mandi> conratulations ::hugs::
Mary Flanders> I tried to find your ICQ number but the only Mary Flanders is nicknamed Maude. I think it's a different person than you.
Final Fantasy> I wish they were all connected. I loved teh first game, and I was hoping the otehr swould be connected soemwhow.
Janine> Do you remember me at G99. I went as Vogel for the masquerade.
Demona Crzy> Happy birthday though I already told you that :)
Doug and Kit> I just thought of soemthing. Meowth vs Reverend Attila :)
SOROW> ::hugs::
Hurricanes> Gert is heade for the East Coast and a depression has formed in the Gulf. It may become Harvey if it intensifies. At least it's not likely to hit New Orleans :)
Now, I'm off. Bye bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:55:56 AM
IP: 141.164.133.102
Thank you Kitania, for your comment on the fanfic archive.
*grumbles* I sure hope I kept the HTML tagged file of BLACK WINGS...
Sarge: Xanatos and a Pikachu...that's just too cruel. Unless he uses the little rat as a power charger for Steel Clan Robots. :-)
Stormy
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:47:51 AM
IP: dynixpc3.huron.uwo.ca
Xanathar re: the play> Thank you! As it turned out, I *didn't* try out for one of the bitchy parts... Blanche was too small, and even I thought the girl who got Mrs. Reed did the reading much better than I. However, I got the second longest speaking part next to Jane and Rochester - the housekeeper, that is - so I'm thrilled. :)
**Mandi's creativity demons, having nothing better to do, suddenly line up in the back of the room and start singing.**
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday, CrzyDemona...
Happy birthday to you!!
**A couple start in on, "We are the nuns, nuns, nuns, of Hood College..."**
Shut up! Wrong one! Merlin Missy's the Hoodlum, idiots! **They grumble and file out.** Sorry this came late, and I hope it was a great birthday!
Halloween costumes> Team Rocket? Oh, my... you have to send me pics of that. :) As for me, well, I don't know. Dave wants me to come home so we can go as Mulder and Scully. (He insists I got a Scully haircut, although I don't see it...) I'm still not sure I can make it - besides, the Halloween festivities up here are a lot of fun.
Oops, it's 10:45... better start getting ready for class. I can finish off my Chaucer reading in half an hour (maybe).
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:45:28 AM
IP: 144.175.18.15
Pist off-- thanks for putting up the list of Bab 5 bloopers-- It was hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!
jenna
Monday, September 20, 1999 10:24:26 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com
Hi, all. Writing from a computer only equipped with that travesty, Internet Exploder, and running out of time, so I'll be brief;
Just read "Bimbos of the Death Sun"; loved it. Particularly the idea of writing a book set in a leper colony, and then calling it "A Farewell To Arms".
Delphi: For the B5 Bloopers page, try checking last week's comment room, it's there.
As for the Castlevania debate I spy with my eye etc. going on in here, I must admit... I've played one game, and I found it less than inspiring. One dumb@$$ running around on ledges with what looked like a combination of a nine-section-whip and a flail. Ugh. Dunno which it was, though.
I also spotted something about the names Wedge and Biggs... they're also in a game called ChronoTrigger. I recommend it.
Look, gotta go.
Later, ladies and regulars.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, September 20, 1999 09:00:51 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
hello everyone
I had a great week end with another great book "The Runelords" by David Farland, has anyone else read this one??
but since I didn't check in here I missed the B5 bloopers do you mind reposting that Pistoff???
thanks....have a great day
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Monday, September 20, 1999 08:34:11 AM
IP: 216.190.241.73
Hi all!!
Well what a Cr@p weekend!!,everything that could go wrong did go wrong,My internet connection went haywire last week and now I can't access my Email,Re-installing the software only made things worse(I'm only able to post here because I'm exploiting a bug in the install program)I'll be getting a new isp sometime this week MICROPLEX SUCKS!!!!(this company WILL be joyrided>:( )
**My apologies for the above rant(and belive me thats only one of the problems I had on the weekend)**
Fleur:If your reading this,I still intend to give those Gargoyles trading cards to you,But If your busy I can wait,or would it be easier if I went over to your place with them:)(I would have Emailed this message to you but as I said at the start of this post "I can't access my mail":(I'm sorry about this mess.
Crzy Demona:Happy belated birthday.(Sorry for not saying so sooner)
Mandolin:I got the part I wanted in "Jane Eyre!" Whoo-hoo!>>Congratulations!
Pistoff:Loved the B5 bloopers site:)
SJ:Sorry to hear about your computer problems,believe me right now I can relate:(
C'yas later!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Monday, September 20, 1999 08:04:09 AM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
I really like this Ajax person. I think He'll be a regular.
So here I am just commenting again.
Beast Machines= There has been no plan to put Starscream back in, but there is a rumor that some of the characters that died in Beast Wars may come back. But that is probably the smallest rumor ever. If you want information go to www.beastmachines.com that is the best site now, ever since the web page of one of the BM authors went off and was replaced with a 'Classified' page.
My writing= My regular sereies I'm working on, but I decided to do a Pokemon/gargoyles crossover. So far I have David Xanatoos being chased constantly by a Pikachu. I also plan to do a stupid gargoyles/power Rangers crossover!
My HOUSE!?!?!- They are starting construction today on my house. Everything in my room and my computer room has been moved so I am living downstairs. In the next 2-4 weeks they are going to raise the roof up so I can get more room upstairs. Sigh.
There's no place like Sarge...There's no place like Sarge....
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
barre, Vt, USA
Monday, September 20, 1999 07:55:46 AM
IP: 209.198.65.194
Hi, y'all.
Back after the weekend, and I haven't been here since Thursday... ugh, so darn much to catch up on, almost...
Nice B5 quotes... can't wait until we get the next season (whichever that is, I lost count).
Can't write much now, so I'll post this and return later, aye?
Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, September 20, 1999 06:30:05 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no
**RP!**
[Decius and Dark Mage Wilek are negotiating over ownership of the Dark Star II. DMW: "Let me get this straight...to let you have this station, you're offering me...your communications network?" Decius: "After a fashion. We install our subspace comm relays in all of your important establishments. Communication is important to your...work. Imagine--instantaneous and completely reliable communications anywhere, anytime. And think what it could do for your computers--dozens of mainframes working as a groupmind can improve any venture." DMW: "You sound like an infomercial. Still...your offer is tempting..."]
**PAUSE RP!**
With all the talk of Beast Machines, I did some browsing. In the unlikely event that I ever find out when and where this show comes on, I think I'm going to like it. :) Some of the character designs are kewl (especially Cheetor, Blackarachnia, and Megatron, although Primal and Rattrap's new looks are hideous IMHO), and the plot is *very* interesting. Oh, and...it got me more interested in the whole Transformers scene in general...
Pistoff> <<She always waits till I get online, then says "I need to use the phone." She couldn't have made her phone call before I went online (and I always ask her is she needs to use the phone first, and she says no...then when I'm online, she suddenly needs to use it...) *sigh*>> Ugh, that sounds intensely annoying. But it can be made slightly less so--it's possible to disconnect and free up a phone line without closing one's browser, and view the desired page in offline mode. (Granted, it's a different matter if you're downloading something...) B5 bloopers> I don't think I've laughed this much in my entire life. :)
Kitainia> <<There have been more than three members of Team Rocket shown on Pokemon- Meowth, Jessie, and James are just the most frequently seen ones. Their boss, a mysterious guy dressed like Bison from Street Fighter, has been seen talking to them in a few eps.>> Ah. Shows what I know. :} <<Nothing is impossible with a lot of gel, red hair dye, and a little time. :)>> Words to live by. <G>
Zath> <<Just be happy you have a tv at all. Hmmm... Maybe if my roommates pay back all the cash they owe me in one big lump, I could use it to buy a tv set (it wouldn't be enough to buy a good one, but right now, anything with a working picture tube would be appreciated...)>> No TV at all...?! ACK! Hm...perhaps you can get one of those cards that allows you to hook cable into your computer?
Airwalker> <<Remember the one rule with everything that has to do with CGI - the more episodes that they work on, the more they will improve.>> So true. Look at Reboot. The graphics for its first few eps were competent (albeit quite stunning at the time of their debut), but *nothing* compared to its third season. The same could be said of Babylon 5 and Beast Wars, for that matter.
Coyote> <<televangelists and wrestling: Care to disclose why that seems appropriate? I'm just curious ...>> Because wrestling is to organized sports what a certain brand of televangelists are to religion. One need only look at such people as Bob Larson and Fred Phelps to catch my meaning.
Nightwalker> <<regarding FF. So they have almost nothing incommomn with each other? Then why are they all part of the same series.>> Er...I've always wondered the same thing...All I can think of is, they share similar gameplay and general style. And they all (well, the later ones at least) have chocobos and moogles. <<All I can say about why it bothers me that my mother likes him so much [he's here right now so I have to make it quick] is that he doesn't seem to be bothered by anything. I know this doesn't make any sense but it just seems too easy for him to just hold hands with her and spend about $300 buck every chance he gets. All of her past boyfriends were a bit nervous and looked like they had boundaries to what they could talk about, but you ask this guy anything and he'll have a smart answer for it . This guy seems too perfect, his looks aren't that good, he's shorter that me and a little pudgy, but does that really matter?, I don't know , maybe I'm just imagining it, at least my mom's happy, she just seems a little too happy, and a little too tolerant now . That should be a good thing , but it's .......creepy.>> That *does* sound odd...hm...I'm not sure what to make of this...
Robby> <<If a new Mario game came out and it had a stupid looking character called Banjo Kazooie, (Oh wait...)>> I happen to like BK. :) (To the extent, in fact, that they provided the main inspiration for the design of one of my characters. [Jake grins and waves.] Although he ended up looking more like a cross between Baloo and Goliath than Banjo...)
SJ> <<I just spent the last 3 hours on my computer. Fixing it. Cause the damn thing DIED. I just had to totally restore the entire hard drive, which meant that I lost everything....I mean, everything. Printer drivers, browsers, bookmarks, every piece of software I had downloaded. Basically, EVERY single goddamn thing I had done in the last TWO years, the computer wiped out. I'm *this* close to taking a shotgun to the piece of ****.>> <grr> A shotgun is too good for it. Toss it in the pool. >:)
Fire Storm> <<I cannot get the network channels on my dish! so I have to pay for cable just to get the local stations!>> I am in the exact same irritating situation. (Hm... but maybe one of my local stations has Kids' WB...I'll have to look into that...)
**RESUME RP!**
[DMW: "But wait. Won't your mistress and your entire collective be able to listen in?" Decius: "No. Your network will have no connection to the collective, and you alone will have full access to it." DMW: "Hm...what guarantee do I have that this network itself won't become a collective?" Decius: "Spontaneous digital sentience is the stuff of science fiction." DMW: "You're one to talk--a cyborg clone gargoyle?" Decius: "Touche. Still, the nature of this network makes such things impossible--the Borg started out as a network of living minds to begin with, it did not attain this status. You have no reason for concern." DMW thinks for a long moment. "Very well, I'll take it. But if I find myself dissatisfied with this service..." Decius: "You won't."]
**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:39:29 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com
GOSHD@MMIt , I wanted to get on the top ten , and then tell you all what's been happening to my life in the past few days , but my mom got on the phone for over two hours. And she thinks that I'm the reason that tha phone bills so high.
Well , I only have time to say why I've been posting alot less. Mostly it's accidental. "Long way 'til morning" weekend we went to Six flags, missed the ep. Monday we went to my aunt's house. Tueday my mom got off early and we went to the movies and my moms boy friend took us bowling. Wednesday my mom was off and was on the phone all day with my godmother. Thursday Cris took us out all day , wee didn't get back 'til 10. And basicaly all other days were pretty much due to Mr.disconnect.
Chris, He's very nice, very considerate, funny, pretty much everything one would look for in a friend , I'ts very complicated. All I can say about why it bothers me that my mother likes him so much [he's here right now so I have to make it quick] is that he doesn't seem to be bothered by anything. I know this doesn't make any sense but it just seems too easy for him to just hold hands with her and spend about $300 buck every chance he gets. All of her past boyfriends were a bit nervous and looked like they had boundaries to what they could talk about, but you ask this guy anything and he'll have a smart answer for it . This guy seems too perfect, his looks aren't that good, he's shorter that me and a little pudgy, but does that really matter?, I don't know , maybe I'm just imagining it, at least my mom's happy, she just seems a little too happy, and a little too tolerant now . That should be a good thing , but it's .......creepy. Does anybody here understand what I'm trying to say? maybe not. Sorry all , I guess I'm just a bit tired.
Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters.
**jeremy tries really hard to say these few precious words, the words that are only spoken between people that can be truly trusted**
**very faintly night walker whispers**
love y'all.My friends.
nightwalker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:22:13 AM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net
Fire Storm: Naw, you can't really help, though I wish you could and I appreciate the offer. Actually, my computer has been slowly dying on me over the last few weeks, with a host of problems and illnesses plaguing it, but I've had to make due as I have no cash to spring for a new PC. Tonight, though, it totally failed me. I had to reformat the hard drive (so everything was gone), losing everything I've been doing--software wise--in the last 2 years. I've been spending this glorious evening trying to reinstall everything (and if that doesn't make you want to beat your head against a wall...) Hopefully, I've fixed the problem, but this computer is gettin' old. It's over 2 years old now, and just by my piecemealing the dern thing have I been keeping it updated. I need a new one badly, but I don't have the change to pay for one. *Sigh* So here's to hoping it doesn't get sick and die all over again.
On the plus side, the Washington Redskins actually won a game today. By a LOT of points. They should have won last week (they so totally whupped the Cowboys ass in the first 3 quarters) too. But I have to savor every victory, cause it's not that likely I'll be getting many more of them. Ah, the heartbreak of having a losing home sports team....Actually, I have 3. Wizards suck too, and don't get me started on the Capitals....how the H-e-double hockey sticks do you go from being *not* in the playoffs, to the finals of the Stanley Cup, to *not* being in the playoffs???
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, September 20, 1999 12:14:23 AM
IP: 207-172-60-54.s54.tnt7.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
SJ: Ohhh... been there. Sorry to hear about that. Did you re-format the hard drive, or just put a new one in? HOW did it crash? Can I help? If it wasn't re-formated, it is possible to recover some of the data.
Doug: Didn't Batman already run into a few Sevarius-type people? I thought that guy in 'Spliced' and that cat doctor were QUITE Sevarius-ish. (AND that bat guy Wilek mentioned)
Wilek: I totally forgot about that bat guy!
Zath: Hell, even $100 can buy a decent TV.
Beast Machines: Will they bring back Starscream? (I haven't been able to see any episodes of the new show yet.)
Coyote: My antenna signal SUCKS, and yet, due to FCC regulations, I cannot get the network channels on my dish! so I have to pay for cable just to get the local stations!
Final Batman and Superman: DERN LOT BOYS! I slept through them too!
<PRAISE\\GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, September 19, 1999 11:52:20 PM
IP: t1-48.visitus.net
To think, if I hadn't been so diligent about writing, I might have made the top ten. Bummer.
Oh well, I've been working on Hot Lead and Coldsteel this evening. As I've said before, I ended up completely reworking the plot. I thought I'd have to rewrite the entire episode, but I've found several scenes that I can save with minimal editing. That's good, since most of them were the good scenes, and I hated to lose them to a measely thing like a completely different plot.
Now, though, I need to figure out the plot of the next episodes. I have this great idea, and I'm not sure how to pull it off. Oh well, I'll see you all later. I'm going to bed.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, September 19, 1999 11:42:05 PM
IP: pppa10-fortworth1-3r775.saturn.bbn.com
10th!
Mary Flanders
Sunday, September 19, 1999 11:08:35 PM
IP: stk-ts2-h2-38-151.ispmodems.net
Ninth , yes. First time on.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmal.co,m]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:33:42 PM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net
Eighth!!
Xanathar
Melbourne, victoria, Australia
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:30:31 PM
IP: cache1.mpx.com.au
7th! And I got the part I wanted in "Jane Eyre!" Whoo-hoo!
Ahem. Sorry.
Mandolin
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:29:02 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15
Top Ten! And The Buccaneers won!!! :)
Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:25:36 PM
IP: ppp-386.icehouse.net
This has been the worst F***ING day. I just spent the last 3 hours on my computer. Fixing it. Cause the damn thing DIED. I just had to totally restore the entire hard drive, which meant that I lost everything....I mean, everything. Printer drivers, browsers, bookmarks, every piece of software I had downloaded. Basically, EVERY single goddamn thing I had done in the last TWO years, the computer wiped out. I'm *this* close to taking a shotgun to the piece of ****.
Top ten I think.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:11:51 PM
IP: 207-172-44-70.s70.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com
Top 10!
Wilek
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:10:40 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com
Shenzi and Ed!
Robby
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:06:37 PM
IP: spider-wk022.proxy.aol.com
Banzai!
Toku Kaioto
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:04:21 PM
IP: 141.133.150.161
**defixates briefly**
TOP TEN!! And a Lions win to boot! :)
**fixates once more**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:03:55 PM
IP: modem83.i-is.com