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Firstly ...

Mandolin: I have not received your mailing yet ... if ye could, please resend? Thanks.

Fire Storm: Golfer, huh? :)

SJ: I take it you *really, really, really* liked that movie, if you could do *that* much of an analysis on it. :)

Warpmind: Precisely ... the sooner I can get behind a railing and cut loose, the better for me. Of course, I always tend to like those long-distance weapons better ... **strokes chin** then again, the weapon I've done the best with in Deer Avenger 2 is the Snoozi (a pistol) ... hmm ...

All those in SoCal, our thoughts are with ye during the aftershocks.

SOROW: Didst thou sayest the magic word by proxy? (the magic word in this case being "band competition") **starts laughing maniacally before returning to his senses** Ahh, the good old days I recall ... getting judged on the field, copping 'tude with other bands ... :)

Stephen: That sounds like one hell of a con. Glad ya had fun. :)

Night Walker: Nah, leave Lou Bega alone. :)
Oh, and as long as I've got ye here, I apologize if I slighted ye in that "Not a Joke" mailing last week ... it's just that the folks I listed as my closest on-line friends are the ones that I've pretty much known longest, IM with frequently ... with some exceptions, of course. Actually, I consider everyone in here my closest on-line friend, and you're included in that group. :)

And that's all for me tonight ... this'll probably get lost in the room wipe, so such is life ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, October 17, 1999 07:22:03 PM
IP: modem95.i-is.com

Dang , this room still hasn't been wiped , well , I guess it's not really your fault robby [or your's Zath] But everybody else . WE MUST POST MORE!!

Joyriders- Here's a short list of the people that have pissed me off lately. Hope you can find some inspiration.

**You guys might have done these already but the only one's I've read were Hanson and ricky Martin.**

Brittany Spears
Christina Agulera
The Olson twins
Pikachu [lol]
Mariah carey
The guy that did mambo #5
Kid Rock
Five [the group]

Tons of others , can't think of any right now , since I'm in a good mood.

bye for now
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, October 17, 1999 07:16:46 PM
IP: proxy-373.public.rwc.webtv.net

To be honest, the reason I haven't posted much is that Season three has yet to start. I get to the point where I rehash old topics, it's time to take a break.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Sunday, October 17, 1999 05:57:29 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp35.fltg.net

Warp de--yeah, I'm afraid it's true...:/ sad, huh? I wouldn't stretch the truth on something like this...


jenna
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:48:55 PM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-122.hstntx.swbell.net

WAKE UP! Where is everybody? I guess after Dark Ages comes out we won't have to worry about slow days.

draconis> I just saw the link of the shirt for Gathering 2000. I gotta have it! Contact me to set it up.

Joe> Mashubang! Aren't you sweet!

If JackaL doesn't write soon, I'm going to panic. Where are you dammit?!
SOROW
Sunday, October 17, 1999 02:21:09 PM
IP: dll2b206-21.splitrock.net

Just wanted to pass along to everyone, that one of the posters I got at the convention yesterday is now avalible for bidding on Yahoo! Auctions... clicky my name if you're interested in getting an official movie one-sheet of a recent Miyazaki film... :)

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:39:41 PM
IP: m6.ieway.com

Hi, all. Things are moving daaaaaaaang slow here today, I see. Maybe it's just because it's early?

Jenna: *Gasp, choke* The Pinis really did that? Um, I may be wrong about this, but isn't that really grounds for a law suit? Oh, wait, maybe they don't live in California? ;) That story is really, really sad... but, what the heck, I just hope the movie turns out good. :) Not to be interpreted that I don't care about such obvious offenses as that. Heck, I do my best to give credit wher due, and on those occasions where I did not (both of them, that I know of) I was quickly notified and able to correct my error.

TGS Stories: Okay, I finally got around to download the entire archive. That was the easy part; for an ounce of enjoyment on my own computer, I have to manually remove all HTML tags... guuuuuuuuhhh... But, it's Gargoyles, so it can't be all that bad, can it?

I saw a list of Jackie Chan's injuries recently... MAN has he ever been injured. Apparently, he is now unable to insure his movies, since the insurance companies know it's a no-win situation... Like Project A, for instance; he successfully falls three floors from a clocktower unharmed, and breaks his finger in a regular fight scene. The guy has broken bones and received cuts in places most humans aren't aware of at all!

Oh, drat. Nothing more to say, really.

Well, later, everyone. And someone please find a Joyride target?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:24:58 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

And just one more thought on this bitter subject..

I guess I just believe in giving credit where credit is due. Call me old fashioned. I myself plan on using Madoc for my stories, but I give the TGS staff the acknowledgement for having come up with the idea in the first place. My Madoc has some diffent twists on him, but again, I am doing it not to undermine anyone, but to give credit, and to tell my own story...
jenna
Sunday, October 17, 1999 09:54:39 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-220.hstntx.swbell.net

My apologies people-- the below post was from me JENNA not Robby-- havent had my coffee yet this morning...
jenna
Sunday, October 17, 1999 09:37:25 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-220.hstntx.swbell.net

Robby-- here is goes. Hope you believe me..

Once upon a time, there was a fan of elfquest. He liked to draw pictures of the characters, and make stories of them. He sent them often into the magazine to be published in fanart, but his stuff was never chosen. Though lesser stuff was.

Eventually he started his own holt magazine, named after the holt he and some other fans made, "the golden wolf holt". This was in the time of "Seige of Blue mountian," or the last days of the orginal expanse of the series, the great war to get the palace.

In the holt they made up, they were on the plains, and lived in a mountian where the it was shaped like a wolf's head. The leader was a rock shaper and had two long braids, on either side (is any of this sounding familer?)

Well the holt showed its mag to the almighty Pini (and yes that was a drop of sarcasm in my voice) and she basically shrugged it off. Several years later the holt was shocked and hurt to see that in the adventures of Ember they came across their holt, and given none of the credit- that's right my friend, howling rock and Teir were invented not by Pini or her hired help, but fans.

Sad, ugly and true.

And this was not the first incident- the briar patch that surrounds the holt of Cutter and comp in the hidden years was taken from the Greenleaf holt up in the northern states.

This wouldn't really bother me if she had just given some type of acknowledgement. Yes, they were playing in the universe that she created, but they came up with the idea. Just a little letter in the front of the magazine, thanking them, would have been great both for PR and for the fans. But instead she/he (lets not leave Richard out of this) claimed it all for themselves. Not only is that arrogent, it's untrue.

When I found all this out, and looked into the hurt of those that had had there ideas ripped off, I really lost a lot of respect for her. You can be a genuis and a talented person, but you can still be a person that,well, does things you shouldn't. It was a hard bitter lesson, but even more so for those who felt betrayed. They felt hurt, and some of them said that the naive part that loved Elfquest so much, was now gone. They could only look at it with mixed emotions at best.

One of the things that I like about Greg, is that he protects himself from fiascos like this, but not looking at fan's stories. And he seems to legitamely appreciate his fans more. Maybe that is because it is by our efforts that Goliath and comp. soar threw the skies now, otherwise they would be only a memory. still, I like to feel appreciated, don't we all.

There you go Robby, the whole ugly story. If you want more specifics, drop me an em, and I can get you in touch with those fans.




Robby - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 17, 1999 09:36:04 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-220.hstntx.swbell.net

Hi, y'all.

I just heard about that earthquake. Say, wasn't the epicenter around the site where they tested that first nuke? Just a random piece of trivia that popped into my head. And worth a thought...

Jannie: Such political correctness scares me... it's just sad... and depressing.

Hmmm... seems like someone is having trouble with time here.

Well, I'll catch you guys later. Not much had happened here since I last checked, anyway.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, October 17, 1999 08:32:52 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Wilek> <<This is Saturday; the wipe is tomorrow night. :)>> DOH!!! **Zath beats head on wall repeatedly...** Bad brain, bad brain, still a day off! *sigh* I realized this just half an hour ago, which in a way is a good thing because I had gone to bed early (early for me anyway) only to wake up in a blind panic because I remembered I hadn't done any of my homework. Then reality smacked me upside the head and I felt really stupid... : P

night walker> <<Robby-you're playing with my emotions. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WIPE THE ROOM?>> Sorry, this is all the fault of my horribly malfunctioning time sense. I seem to be contagious…

interesting tidbit about the earthquake> It took over 45 minutes for any of the local stations to have any news about what happened. Apparently that's how long it takes an entire news crew to haul themselves out of bed and go to work. I bet they were cursing the fact it didn't happen during normal business hours. : )

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Sunday, October 17, 1999 05:00:52 AM
IP: ppp-223-107.usc.edu

I give up , I've failed yet another week.

Robby-you're playing with my emotions. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WIPE THE ROOM?

j/k man.lol

I'll try harder next week. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa.


night walker
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:52:55 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

Eg fylgist meo per
night walker
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:48:35 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

maybe next time
night walker
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:44:25 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

Awwwwww man . Oh well.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:39:30 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

Hmmmm , maybe I'll be farther into the top ten this time.

Angie-I'm not sure what happened. I'll make sure to ask her next time we talk. sorry.

t-shirts- Oh yes, Draconis [i think that's his name] Is helping me get one . this is great .

plan- Guess what. MY MOM SAYS SHE'LL TAKE ME TO SEE PRINCESS MONONOKE . I'M STILL IN SHOCK.

that's pretty much it . I'll be back in the RP within the next few days. Just hafta think of a way to get back in with out sounding ilogical.....

That's pretty much it.Oh , at this really small videogame stoe I bought FF7 for $15 bucks. It was pre-used , but there are no scratches on the disks at all. I feel so lucky. Maybe it's because I'm moving. Anyway , the game is excellent. And that's amazing coming from a kid that's playing the series backwards.

That is all.

Goodnight my rookery brother's and sisters. I love you all.

**oh pretty please , let the room be wiped as I send this** lol , I know I know. I'm just thankful that it's being wiped so late
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Sunday, October 17, 1999 03:38:16 AM
IP: proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net

****NO RP WILL POST LATER****

I'm going to make this quick or I'll be waaaaaay to tired to work in the morning.

Vggdrasil-Servant of the Bones- That was such a good book. Why is it that really good books have to end? I wish they'd just keep going till we get bored with them.

JonBenet Ramsey- I did a report on this whole thing about a year ago and you wouldn't believe the number of screw-ups the police did on this.

Doug-Going through a funk huh? If you want my advice about dealing with classes, lack of ideas for a fanfic, and just feeling low; just let it all go for awhile. Go see a movie, take Kit out on a date or just take a long walk and be alone with your thoughts. A walk really works for me when I need some ideas for a report. I just think about different things and then sometimes ideas just flood my head when I hear a piece of someones conversation or if maybe if I see something that is related to my report in a remote or weird way. Just relax, because pent-up stress and anxiety usually messes up the creative process.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Sunday, October 17, 1999 02:22:45 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

**BEWARE, FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE RP IS AT HAND!**

[Wilek, hoping his idea works, gathers his team around in a circle. Wilek: "Here's what I need y'all to do. Jake, Teri, you keep the Sphinx beast distracted. Kari, you stab the Sphinx in the eye with your spear." Kari: "What?!" Wilek: "It's important, trust me. Miriam, when Kari does that, shoot the spear with your vortex rifle." Miriam: "The spear will conduct the rifle's energy into the beast's central processor, disabling it...Quite inspired." Wilek: "Thank you." Forfexx: "What about the rest of us?" Wilek: "Um...we can distract it as well. Now let's MOVE, we have a mad scientist to rescue!" Immediately, the team circles the leonine warmech, firing at it with their weapons, enraging it more than harming it. Fortunately, that gives Kari enough time to get into position to stab the beast in one of its glowing eyes. She raises her weapon, ready to plunge it into the mechanical eye of the sphinx...and the spear impacts harmlessly against its crystalline surface. Kari: "Oh, *shoot*..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

I acquired a MIDI cable yesterday, which I have attempted to use to hook my Casio keyboard to my PC. <glares at Mr. Disconnect.> If this thing isn't working by Monday, I'm going to put a *lot* of thought into my next work of evil art.

SJ> Did ye get my e-mail? ;)

Kitania> <<I've got a take-home exam to finish tomorrow, <sigh> and a crazy Spanish teacher who's given me eight workbook pages, a handout, and three textbook pages of problems due Monday on top of that. I protested, and mentioned the exam, but she wouldn't listen. I feel like not doing half the homework just to continue the protest, anyone know what this is like?>> Oh, *yeesh*...so much homework kills the soul and brings the black walls of sanity closing in on the awakened mind. I wish you the best of luck dealing with this. :( As for the protest...Maybe Pistoff can give you a few ideas to implement if things get *too* out of hand? >;) <<You know what I think the problem is with this case? It's that too many people share my opinion of it. What is that opinion? It's that the case has been going so long I just want to stop hearing about it and am past caring whether the killer ever gets what he deserves.>> <applauds> Masterfully put. :) <<Thanks for the hilarious demon entities and sex hormone bits.>> <bows> All in a day's work. ^_^

Warpmind> <<You found a copy of the Necronomicon at Waldenbooks? That's an online bookstore, right?>> Um...they probably have a website (www.waldenbooks.com would be my guess), although I found the Necronomicon at the Waldenbooks at the mall. :) <<I dreamt that I was in an office, scaring the sh*t out of some suit, who apparently had refused Christine's Black Roses. So, Christine, if you get a handwritten apology from one of the publishers who dumped you... please, don't scare me by letting me know, ok?>> Ooh...I almost hope she does; it'd be interesting to have a resident Weaver Of Nightmares. ^_^

Spacebabie> Interesting DC death. ^_^

Hey, has anyone here ever seen the movies Clue and Haunted Honeymoon? These are two of the best films I've ever seen; next time I'm at Borders I'll have to find them on DVD. :)

Mandi> <<Tried to work on my papers and TGS in the basement while the rest of the house was noisily recarpeted upstairs...>> Eee...I know what renovations are like; I sometimes got so sick of the constant hammering that...I don't think they've found that one guy yet... [Mysterious voice from basement: "Um, is anyone out there? There's, like, a ten foot long octopus down here!" Wilek: "That's just Gertrude. Don't worry, she's friendly." The sounds of the mysterious voice screaming and what sounds like the crushing of bones erupt from the basement.]

Zath> Earthquake> ACK! I'm glad you didn't get the worst of it! <<Hmmm... No wipe yet? I wonder what's up.>> This is Saturday; the wipe is tomorrow night. :)

Doug> <<Thanks for your kind words and the feelings you've mentioned on your own writing.>> 'Twas the least I could do, clan brother. :)

Jannie> Link> LOL!!! :) And so true...Eek..

Stephen> <<I also got to speak to a Hollywood props master, Dragon Dronetas well. He spoke of some the recent effects work he got to do, including helping out those guys doing the sequel to that "Troops" fan-video. :) I even got my picture with him, holding one of the prop lightsabers Darth Maul used in Episode One. :) Cool, huh?>>
Woah...I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! :D

**RESUME RP!**

[Jake: "Now what?!" Wilek: "Um...RUN AWAY!!!" With that, the team begins running frantically in the direction of the command center, until...Wilek runs right into, oddly enough, the Adminstrator! She spins to face him and bares her claws, ready to attack, until she sees just who she's encountered. Administrator: "I see I am not alone here." Wilek: "Interesting to find you here in the trenches with the hired help." Administrator: "I am here to settle an old score." The tromping of great paws in the corridors behind them attracts their attention back to their most pressing concern, the Phalanx warmech. within moments, the creature has caught up with them, and soon it is once again harrowing the team. Teri: "Queenie, if you can do something about Kitty here, do it now; we have less than five minutes to get to the command center!"]

**REPENT, YE UNWORTHY MORTALS, FOR THE END OF THE RP APPROACHES**
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:55:30 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Hi, when does the new season of Gargoyles start up?
1 weird sister
CA
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:55:21 AM
IP: spider-te022.proxy.aol.com

Hey people. I just got back from jamming out with my band. We are working on some new crap that is pretty technical. Hopefully it'll be good enough to put on our next album.
<GOOD NEWS> the reason we got together tonight was to have a meeting. We are actually planning to throw a concert in downtown at a theatre called THE PLAZA. We're also bringing in a couple of other bands from different highscools in ther district so we can get some more recognition in the community. Prospects are looking good and hopefully we'll have a success in December.
<MORE GOOD NEWS> My principles idea of raising money for the school clubs by having us play a concert is pretty solid right now. It is almost definite that we're going to play a "Turnerpalooza" this January:)

SOROW: Thanks. I hope your cousin did just as good (But I know you are a much better (and beautiful) dancer than she or anyone is). love ya..

Doug: As soon as I have time I will try to read one of your works. I'm sure it's very good. I actually like writing myself. There's this movie script I've been working on for about a year now, but I keep getting writer's block, and with band and school, I have no time. Oh well.. as long as I get it done before the end of highschool.
JOE BOXER
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:50:14 AM
IP: spider-wo063.proxy.aol.com

Hmmm... No wipe yet? I wonder what's up.
Zath
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:43:18 AM
IP: ppp-228-042.usc.edu

One major highlight! The R. L. Turner High School band received Division One Sweepstakes this afternoon. I went and it was the best they have ever played before! Only two other schools (that I know of) received sweepstakes as well. Actually, I don't think Joe Boxer even knows yet...?... Give him a round of applause for a spectacular job in drum line. *clapping proceeds*

Joe> Wonderful job today! It was obviously very hot and I hope no one fainted. You really deserve that sweepstakes! I went back to see Ducanville and they were awesome as well. Of course, the drill team for their school (80 members) *is* the color guard and their band has 380 members. Good competition! If only our football team were so good ;) And from last post...YOU LEAVE MY KITTY OUT OF THIS! :)

draconis> I am the person who never received the t-shirt. It has been taken care of, however, and I hope to get the shirt very soon. Thank you for your concern! *hugs*

****REVIEW FOR AMERICAN BEAUTY****
I just saw this movie a little while ago and it was spectacular! It was hilarious, tragic, and dramatic all at once. I am a very big fan of Kevin Spacey and that kid from October Sky (both are very hot) and they gave excellent performances. It deserves all the credit given and if you have not seen this movie yet...GO!
****END REVIEW****

Early church tomorrow...OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:00:40 AM
IP: dll2b105-21.splitrock.net

Greetings all...

Been out to a convention in Spokane today. Got a few freebies, and a nice bonus: a one-sheet of the upcoming Princess Mononoke film. Nice! But it doesn't list Keith David in the credits... dang.

I also got to speak to a Hollywood props master, Dragon Dronetas well. He spoke of some the recent effects work he got to do, including helping out those guys doing the sequel to that "Troops" fan-video. :) I even got my picture with him, holding one of the prop lightsabers Darth Maul used in Episode One. :) Cool, huh?

DOUG - Dang, man! I've been meaning to tell you to keep working with your writing! It's really good stuff!

Will talk with everyone later! Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, October 16, 1999 11:42:41 PM
IP: m162.ieway.com

Jenna- You mean those rumors were TRUE? I'd heard that some of the later Elfquest stuff had been ripped off, but no one has ever told me exactly how. You got me interested, I'd been wondering about that for a while...
Robby
Saturday, October 16, 1999 11:10:54 PM
IP: spider-wa061.proxy.aol.com

Ok.. I just came across this site that I found to be quite comical and yet so close to the world of being "politically correct". I hope this doesn't set any tempers off - just read it (or not) with the humor in which it was intended ;)
Jannie
Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:44:25 PM
IP: 196-231.c.esc4.net

Zath> ack! I'm glad that you are alright!! I wouldn't want to experience an earthquake! Heh, I'll just stick to the hurricanes, flooding and tornadoes of the Gulf coast area of Texas... O.O *chuckles*
Jannie
Saturday, October 16, 1999 09:40:11 PM
IP: 196-176.c.esc4.net

**RP HERE**

"You are being sued for anti-Phalanx discrimination!" shouts one of the lawyer-drones attacking the Ravens. "Also for assault on a Phalanx collective, multiple murder and battery on hundreds of Phalanx, destruction of Phalanx property..." "We plead permanent insanity!" Tricia yells, then vaporizes him with a psionic force bolt. "Shut up!" The other Ravens continue to fight off the rest of the drones. Kit and Boris fling grenades at the paralegals around them; Shap, Erin, and Stephanie slice up the secretaries; Jammer, Mist, and Gubio shoot down most of the firm's associates; and Lathrop throws three storms of fireballs from his staff and hands to handle the rest. Three of the main partners are simultaneously beaten to a bloody pulp by Jaden and Orion (the latter changed his mind about going back with Tom and Keith earlier, sorry we forgot to put that in, oh well, continuity's fixed!) and Shauna cuts down the process servers with a spray of arrows. Doug meanwhile gives Whiplash a full clip of ten shotgun blasts, hardly damaging the Phalanx lawyer drone. "You can't destroy ME!" Whiplash chuckles fiendishly, extending several thin Phalanx tendrils and advancing on Doug with his namesakes ready. "Can this?" Doug asks in reply, drawing what looks like a soda can and popping it open. He then spills its contents on Whiplash, who screams in sudden agony. "Get it off!" he wails, backing up as the carbonated soda eats into his skin. "Let me put you out of your misery," Lathrop tells him, then finishes off the Phalanx with a lightning storm. Orion backs him up with a holy fire spray and Whiplash is dead. So are all his associates. The Ravens all breathe sighs of relief and treat what wounds they've suffered, then look confusedly at their leader. Doug grins back and takes a sip from his soda. "What is that stuff?" Kitainia asks. "The bane of all Phalanx," Doug replies. "Especially ones from Diet Dr. Pepper commercials. Diet Dr. Pepper." "Does it taste like regular?" Gubio asks, smiling at the joke. Doug finishes the can and throws it into a nearby convienent trash barrel, then shakes his head. "No." "I thought they were lying," Kitainia chuckles. "Let's go, okay, everyone?" They all nod and the team hurries on down the tunnel ahead.

**END SOMEWHAT CONTRIVED RP**

Hi everybody. Are your weekends doing alright so far? Glad if they are. If they aren't, I hope things improve soon. Thanks to the four people who have told me good things about my writing (you know who you are), partly thanks to you I'm feeling better. Wasn't able to get any fanfic work done today, but that was more due to my own homework needs and Kit's taking over the computer than depression. I'll resume writing tomorrow if I can. For those of you who are interested, "Control" is currently about 48 percent through, and progressing. I hope to have it out by Halloween. :)

**BEGIN REVIEWS FOR VARIOUS SHOWS**

Good new eps of Batman Beyond and Pokemon today. The former was especially enjoyable due to the character development on Terry and the end joke. Max also makes an interesting new character with a lot of possibilities. I regret not seeing Bruce this time around, but he should be back soon (his reaction to Max's discovery should be interesting to see). Batman Beyond is having a good season so far, the only thing that can currently make it better is to bring back some of the villains from last year. Hope they do so soon. :)

Harsh Realm and Now & Again also had decent, though not that enjoyable, episodes last night. Kit and Mandi have already said enough about them. More than either show I enjoyed the new Fox police action drama Ryan Caulfield- Year One. This show has made me want even more to be a cop after I finish college. Its first ep had a very good plot, a script that flowed wonderfully, and excellent character development. The second episode also looks like it has the potential for all this. There was also nice action in the show, and it was very realistic, exciting, emotional, and entertaining. Also had many memorable moments, and excellent acting by all the various roles. I hope Kit and I weren't the only CR dwellers who caught it, and if you didn't catch it this week you can next. :) Also be looking for a possible Ryan Caulfield cameo in an upcoming fanfic of mine. Overall, I thought it was probably one of the best cop shows I've seen so far. If it keeps up its current quality, it may very well replace the "top cop show" spot on my list of favorite shows currently held by 21 Jump Street and NYPD Blue. That's enough praise from me, watch the show to know more. :)

**REVIEWS END**

Vampire Books: I agree that Anne Rice's are among the best out there, especially The Vampire Lestat and Memnoch the Devil. But I have also enjoyed other vampire books more than I have hers, like the Buffy fanfic novels and particularly PN Elrod's Vampire Files and Keeper of the King. I have also found the latter more inspiring for my fanfic and the vampire characters therein. Haven't read Anita Blake's work yet, maybe someday I will. Another really great (and hilarious) vampire book is "Bloodsucking Fiends" by Christopher Moore. Read that one if you want to experience the lighter side of the undead. :)

Green Baron: Sorry to hear you've been recently having so many computer problems and schoolwork hassles. I too pray they soon end and you are able to come in here regularly once again. If there's any way I can help, just let me know.

David G: You're welcome about Freelance, I wish you continued good luck. Glad that you'll be setting up your own continuity for it, that was probably the best way to keep the story yours. I look forward to seeing how it all turns out next week. :)

Christine: Good job on the first chapter of Magelore 2. Excellent character and plot development, and foreshadowing of events ahead. Now I'll be going mad for the next year or so waiting for the rest of it. <sigh>

Todd: Thanks again for the kind words, I'm glad to know you'll be sending feedback in the future (and looking forward to it :). Keep the compliments coming, people. You know they mean a lot. (Of course, constructive criticism is also welcomed.)

Wilek: $ Happy that you aren't out of the RP yet. :) I look forward to your surprises and hope you can soon bring them in. $ Thanks for your kind words and the feelings you've mentioned on your own writing. Like Dags', Todd's and Kit's, they have made me feel a little better. :) A few detailed feedback e-mails from some people, and I'll feel great. :)

Edward Norton: He's one of my favorite young actors too. Enjoyed him in American History X, Rounders, and especially Primal Fear. I expect to see him doing a good job in Fight Club too (Kit and I will probably see it next weekend as part of a double feature with Bringing Out the Dead, if not sooner). Btw, if anyone's wondering, I do have a fanfic saga role in mind for Norton, as I do for all actors I've enjoyed as much. Both Edward Salton and Jack Cross (villain in Beneath the Streets) were created with him in mind. (Yes, I know the former hasn't really been much more than a generic chief thug so far, but I have plans for a future story which should make his role worthy of Norton. <fiendish grin> )

Personality Test: Took the anime one earlier this afternoon. I'm most like Pluto, Fighter, and Tuxedo Mask. Not sure if that's entirely good or bad (especially since I don't even know much about two of these people, having only seen the American Sailor Moon).

Zath: Glad the earthquake didn't hit you too hard. <relieved sigh> Thanks for letting us know you're okay.

Joe Boxer: Sorry to hear that your CD has not been released yet. Let us know as soon as it is, okay? :) I like the band's name. <grin> Thanks for the kind words too (if you're wondering, the problem was lack of fanfic feedback. I'm a writer with numerous stories up at gargoyles-fans.org). And yes, Kit and I are together. Been so for over two years. She's the best thing that's ever happened in my life.

That's all for now, gotta go do other things. Later!

**BEGIN RP SECOND HALF**

The Ravens walk on through the tunnels, growing more and more worried as they find no sign of Wilek, SJ, or those accompanying them. "Anyone here?" Stephanie calls out, recieving no answer. "This is bad," Gubio frowns. "Other than those lawyers, we haven't seen anyone down here." "What about that mass of moving toilet paper?" Erin asks, pointing to a stream of white paper gleaming with Phalanx contamination that is flowing out of a nearby wall. The group raises its eyebrows and looks at each other, wondering what the heck is going on. Then the paper forms into a Phalanx drone who looks like an old man wielding a toilet brush like a sword. "I'm back!" George Whiffle yells/wheezes at them. "And I'm going to wipe your butts after I kick them! Eheheheheheh!" "Oh please," Shauna rolls her eyes. "This guy has to be the most annoying villain we have ever encountered." With that she nocks a fire arrow and shoots Whiffle in the side. He screams as the flames quickly consume him and reduce him to ash. "Nice job," Kit commends the archer. Shauna shrugs. "I had to do that. Ever since that jerk's commericals started coming on TV, he's been driving me insane and ruining the image of senior citizens. Now he's met a fitting end." "Very fitting," Doug agrees. "Come on, we have to find Wilek and SJ. I'm worried about them. The group walks on, alert for whatever may lie ahead.

**END THIS BIT OF RP**
Doug Elder - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, October 16, 1999 09:33:25 PM
IP: pool-209-138-163-190.dlls.grid.net

Wow, it's been hours without a post in the middle of the afternoon, slow day…

Well, I got to experience my first real California earthquake last night/this morning. It woke up one of my roommates, one wasn't home so I don't know how she reacted, and the other slept straight through it. As for myself, I was still awake at the time, watching some old cheesy movie on AMC ("The Undead" which had witches and Satan, but not a zombie in sight...). The news said it was a 7.0 on the Richter scale, but the epicenter was something like 30 miles away out in the middle of the desert, so all we got here in LA was a little wiggling for 15 to 30 seconds that reminded me of standing on an anchored boat. My huge pile of delicately balanced papers on top of my scanner didn't even shift. The lights flicked off for half a second, but immediately came back on again. Some guy outside started running around shouting, "EARTHQUAKE!" at the top of his lungs, but I think he was drunk. We only felt one of the aftershocks, and that was so slight I would have thought I had imagined it if our hanging lamp hadn't started swinging slightly. To tell the truth, I had been expecting something more, but I'm glad so few people were hurt.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Saturday, October 16, 1999 07:54:51 PM
IP: ppp-225-066.usc.edu

My God, is this comp of Mom's slow! Really makes me appreciate my PC at school.

**looks at the room** Eep. Well, I'll try to catch up as best I can.

**NEW SHOW AND FILM SPOILERS!**

BtVS: I had to tape this and wait until Thursday afternoon to watch it while I was in the basement hiding from the insane recarpeting... but it was worth the wait. I, too, thought it was all in Buffy's head until Giles confirmed it for us. Man, and I thought my roommate was a pain our first semester. The nicest touch was the fact that the demon roommate was just trying to keep her folks from dragging her back home. "Living Conditions" really hit home, and it was great. The little hints of things to come - the guys with the taze guns, Oz noticing that girl (I read the spoiler board) - were also enticing enough without being entirely distracting. I give this one an 8.5/10.

Now and Again: I had some difficulty with this ep too - but not the same gripes that Doug and Kit did. My complaint was that they gave us a little too much foreshadowing that something was up (the opposite problem with BtVS' "Enemies," where we couldn't figure out when they managed to throw the plan together). I don't think Michael had a clue about it until after that last dream when the doc woke him up and whispered in his ear. As for Michael not killing that guy: I was fine with it in terms of character development... fourth episode, one month into this, was just too early for him to have to do something that "dirty." I mean, killing the Eggman or someone who was threatening a lot of people openly is one thing - breaking into a spy's house and blowing him away in the bathroom because he might be selling state secrets is another. I think Morris saw Michael's reluctance coming, and the only reason he had him do this assignment was because he knew Michael wouldn't really have to kill anyone... Besides, the other option would be for Michael to NOT do it and then have Morris go back on his threats - and that would have been even more of a cop-out. Later on, this issue's going to have to come up... but the fourth episode? Doubt it. Taken in context - knowing the premise of the next episode - it would have really been out of character for him to have had to kill the spy and then suddenly spend the next ep infiltrating his own insurance company and actually going to Lisa's door. I don't think he'd have been able to face her.

That aside, the dream sequences were a riot. Loved the teaser, and the "Career Day" line had everyone in the room laughing their heads off, and the other three people I had over last night had never seen N&A before. 7.5/10, with points off for foreshadowing and that they brought this issue up so soon.

(Note: Heard rumors that CBS might be inclined to buy more eps of N&A since they only initially committed to 12... which makes sense since it seems to be holding its own.)

Three Kings: Saw this yesterday afternoon in an empty theater... it was just me and Dave, and we were free to heckle and comment as much as we liked. It was surprisingly good - I wasn't expecting a lot due to the hype and the presence of Clooney - and the black humor worked. Clooney was all right, Ice Cube and Wahlberg were interesting, and I was ticked that Spike Jonze' character had to die in the end. The "serious" part of the film, about the troops just leaving Kuwait to Saddam's whims, was a little preachy at times, but that was overshadowed by the fact that the film really didn't gloss anything over. Brr. Even the exploding cow was just as sickening as it was humorous. Some of the directing touches were a little too much, like the slow-mo scenes which made it patently obvious Something Important was about to happen. I wouldn't recommend this for anyone with a weak constitution (read: Dave's mother will never see this), but those who don't want any glossing over and go for dark comedy will like it. 8/10.

**SPOILERS END**

Mandi's Life: I'm dealing. Tried to work on my papers and TGS in the basement while the rest of the house was noisily recarpeted upstairs... which explains why I didn't get as much done as I'd like. I'm also considering bailing on the literary magazine just because the new editor this year is not getting anything done and blows her top when I ask one person if they could possibly make a meeting time she's considering. *sigh* But I'm good. :)

Coyote> Speaking of Team Delta, I'll send you what info I have after I finish this post...

2:30 already?!?!? Ack, so much for catch-up; I'd better go finish my laundry...
Mandolin
Saturday, October 16, 1999 02:33:59 PM
IP: pm3-1-ppp35.iximd.com

Eeheeehee. 50% Demona, 35% Brooklyn, 15% Goliath.
Menessah
Saturday, October 16, 1999 02:01:23 PM
IP: filter.lds.net

BEGIN DC DEATH

Spacebabie henshins into SailorPluto and opens the gates of time to the begingin of the Earth.

"See all the golden orange swirling stuff DC? Aint it pretty? You don't think so? here have a closer look" Pushes DC out and watches as he plummetts to the magamic formations
END DC DEATH

Scary Surgery storys...hmmmm can't rember anything scary. Over a year ago I had my first root canal,but my dentist used plenty of novacane.

Hurricane Irene missed us. This is what like the third close call for us Centraly Floridians? What probleme we do have is flooding and a rodent infestation and Monday my 10 year old cat brought her first rat to the doorstep.

TK get well soon Man

like I said earlier I'm the result of if Lex and angela got together.

Senshi personality Quiz mostly Mercury and Pluto. Pluto makes sense since thats the ruling planet of Scorpios.

***Goes back to watching the end of Awakenings****
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:43:33 PM
IP: ts002d45.orl-fl.concentric.net

Okay, quick check-in before the expected "rush".

If anyone remembers the Alien Love Doll that... Pisstoff(?) mentioned, they've got more in stock. I checked it out just for kicks... and if someone should get the funny idea to buy one, don't pay more than 25$ for one, that's the cost mentioned at the Coopstuff page... And I did just check it out for a cheap laugh, should anyone wonder...

Okay, off to surf the web fo more cheap laughs...

Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:00:57 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Warpmind-<<Get used to it>> Gee , thanx for the great words of comfort. **sigh**
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Saturday, October 16, 1999 11:43:47 AM
IP: proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net

Robby- maybe one day I'll give the specifics, but not right now. I don't know if anyone would believe me, or want to believe me. I don't belive in lying, and I don't want to be accused of it. & I don't want to get stoned in here. I ll say this, in later years Pini took some ideas from fans as her own. Like in the hidden years. Not any of mine, I never was involved in fan stuff there, but ripped off people I know. the ugly truth there it is. And no, I don't say things like this lightly.
jenna
Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:16:58 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-167.hstntx.swbell.net

Okay, back again at around four PM on the Saturday...

Aaron and Coyote: You're Rogues, too? Hmmm... I wonder why. Could it be that she's more efficient at long range, or maybe handy with both weaponry and magic... or is it just that she's such a drop-dead gawgeous babe? Anyhow, I agree with the no-mage-policy. Alright, he may wind up the most powerful character in the game... but WTF? Diablo is almost completely immune to magic of any sorts? That's BAD news indeed for our dear Sorcerer... gimme a Rogue with a good bow, or maybe a Warrior with a solid armor and a swift axe anytime... But I'll probably be the Paladin in D2.

Jannie: Examine his schlong with a sledgehammer... LOL. Wish I'd been a fly on the wall...

Christine: Oh, brilliant. Now I'll be walking in constant expectations until some bright publisher buys Magelore 2... why do I have such problems resisting temptations? And why was I so gullible as to disbelieve in the possibility of making a better sequel that COTSB was?

Night Walker: On Spike's joke: Feeling a bit uncomfortable, are we? I've got four words for you: Get Used To It. Things are likely to get much worse...

Wilek: You found a copy of the Necronomicon at Waldenbooks? That's an online bookstore, right? What's the addy? I've got a few acquaintances I'd like to show a few tricks... or perform a few tricks on.

Kitania: Your faves are the Lex and Tina stories? *High-fives Kitania* Mine too. Hmmm... I wonder if it may have something to do with me strongly identifying with Lexington... oops, better not say anything more here, I might get in serious trouble...

Joe Boxer: Oh, this place is very weird indeed... I think you've visited on one of those slow weeks...

Okay, no more replies at the mo... but I had this very weird dream tonight. I dreamt that I was in an office, scaring the sh*t out of some suit, who apparently had refused Christine's Black Roses. So, Christine, if you get a handwritten apology from one of the publishers who dumped you... please, don't scare me by letting me know, ok?

Well, later, guys, I gotta probe around for a new place to crash. But I might check back later today.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, October 16, 1999 09:49:49 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hello evryone! Well hopefully the "monthly visitor" crap is all over with. SOROW has her pills and now everyone can be happy. I'd also like to thank everyone for an interesting first week. It's been fun.

SOROW: Hey sweety. Mmmmm...no post? Don't tell me that since you've posted a comment every night for a year that you're going to stop now. Well, it's okay cause I know how tired you are. And even though I know it's going to be 4 in the afternoon by the time you read this, "have a good night's sleep."

DAG: Thanks for the greet, but hopefully this place isn't tooooo weird.

Doug and Kit: Well, I'm sorry to inform you that my band's CD isn't open to the public yet. We basically did everything ourselves in making the CDs except for burning them (we sent off for New York for that). We don't really have plans for national distribution yet, but hopefully with a few more venues(did I spell that right?), we'll be able to do so. The purpose for our cd right now is to sell them at school to boost our popularity, and use it as a demo for hiring gigs and stuff.(I know how shallow that sounds, but hey, I'm a musician right?)..the name is- O.G. Burrito.- It's stupid, but fitting at the same time. Maybe I'll explain it to you guys later.
Doug- cheer up. What ever it is (sorry I'm not kept up)it can't be that bad (especially when I see that you have so many friends that are concerned)
Kit-I'm sorry about your struggle. I know how bad H.W. can be. SOROW and I stayed on the phone for an hour doing physics. If it makes you feel any better, I stay up til 3 in the morning almost every night finishing up school work. Atleast I have the weekends to catch up on sleep.
Doug and Kit:-One more question- I get the indication that you two are together. Are you? (If not, sorry. I'm still new)
JOE BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 16, 1999 03:36:03 AM
IP: spider-wg011.proxy.aol.com

**RP COMING AT CHA**

"Sir!" Cameron Hodge shouts, running breathless into the Sphinx's central control room. "More of the enemy has penetrated our fortress!" "That is of no concern to me," Phalanx Prime growls in reply. "Send one of our prime drones to intercept them." "That's the thing, boss. They've already killed Lenny Kravitz, Karen and Kirby, the Braves, and Gus & Sid!" "Well, then send Whiplash. He's stronger than all of them were. And if he fails, have Whiffle set a trap for them. Meanwhile I expect you to keep turning out special monster drones to put in Sevarius Jr's path so he doesn't make it here on time." "Yes sir," Hodge salutes, then turns and runs off.

"Man, this place is spooky," Shap observes elsewhere in the tunnels beneath the Sphinx. "Anybody see any Phalanx drones? I want to kill them fast so we can get out." The others respond in the negative and keep moving, thorough territory SJ and Wilek have already cleared. The air around them is silent and menacing, until it is suddenly shattered by the ringing of a cell phone. "Whose is that?" Kit asks. "Mine," Lathrop replies, grabbing the phone off his belt and answering it. "Hello? Oh, hi, Ruth. Yeah, everything's fine. Me and my friends are saving the world again. Yes, it's very important, I'm glad you understand. You sold another house to a Hollywood celebrity today? That's wonderful." "Who's he talking to?" Stephanie asks as the wizard continues to prattle on. "His wife," Doug answers. "Lathrop's married?" Kit's sister raises her eyebrow. "Of course he is," Kit chuckles. "Been so for over twenty years, with three kids. His family lives in Santa Fe, New Mex." "Oh," Jammer smiles. "That explains the celebrity deal." "Let's let Lathrop finish his conversation," Doug decides. "Then we'll go on. Orion, you and Jaden keep watch." Everyone nods and settles down to wait.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Good evening everyone. How's life been treating you the last few days? With me, it's been okay, except for Doug's depression. It's no picnic when he's like this. Your feedback has helped, Todd, Dags, and Wilek. Thank you for it. Send more if you can, please, everyone. Like you all, I want him to get out of this funk soon. Other than that, I've got a take-home exam to finish tomorrow, <sigh> and a crazy Spanish teacher who's given me eight workbook pages, a handout, and three textbook pages of problems due Monday on top of that. I protested, and mentioned the exam, but she wouldn't listen. I feel like not doing half the homework just to continue the protest, anyone know what this is like? :) As things are now, I will probably only have time for half of it thanks to the damn exam and all my other commitments. Life stinks, and then, uh, and then... <Doug- Then you die, remember?> Oh, right. :) So I'm getting a second post of the week out of the way now. Here goes!

**SPOILERS FOR NEW SHOWS**

Harsh Realm: The second episode was not as good as the first, I'm sorry to say. It had some decent character development, but the plot was formulaic and predictable. No good villains, either. Santiago lost his charm in this one, and the bounty hunter was more annoying and disgusting than menacing (though that gadget he used was kinda neat). Sophie's quest was interesting initially but didn't really go anywhere by the ep's end. Overall, I was disappointed in this week's ep. 5/10, thumbs down.

Now and Again: The new episode of this show was pretty good, up until the end. That ruined it for me. I liked seeing Micheal deal with the possible hardships of working for the government, but the revelation at the end that he'd been helping his boss with an entrapment scheme the whole time just seemed out of character for him. <sighs> Next week's ep of this show better be a more interesting and true to continuity one. <sighs again>

Ryan Caulfield: Doug wanted to post a more in-depth review of this new show later, I'll let him. I just want to say that I enjoyed the pilot episode a lot. Thought it was very gritty and realistic, with characters and script that kept my interest. Next week's episode looks even better than the pilot was, hope it ends up being so. So far the show looks promising, and I think I will continue to be watching it Friday nights before Now and Again and (taped) Harsh Realm.

**SPOILERS END**

SOROW, Joe Boxer: Thanks for the replies. Hope to soon be able to buy the CD I asked about (please don't forget to tell us the name!).

Personality Tests: I'm an Angela-Brooklyn-Lex-Goliath mixture, with a dash of Demona somewhere inside. Also a combination of Sailors Jupiter and Mars (I think) as far as anime characters go. And out of the Trio, I'm most like Lex.

Warpmind: Yes, I've read and enjoyed Spike's fics! Despair and Deliverance is one of my personal faves, along with the Lex and Tina ones.

Princess Mononoke: I agree with Robby, Disney is being an idiot about this movie. Not only that, I'm really mad to hear they won't be showing it in Austin (at least not according to Aaron's link). They better bring it here eventually, I really want to see the film. <silent prayer>

Valentine: Glad you liked the quote. FF8 is a game I've been enjoying lately (though parts of its story are a little contrived). I too agree that your friend is nuts.

JonBenet Ramsey: You know what I think the problem is with this case? It's that too many people share my opinion of it. What is that opinion? It's that the case has been going so long I just want to stop hearing about it and am past caring whether the killer ever gets what he deserves.

Green Baron: Glad to know you're alright. Hope you can soon once again post regularly in here. $ BTW, if you want Doug and me to finish up the deal with Clinton's Shadow Brides in the RP, we can. Just say the word. We'd prefer you do it, but understand if you can't. :) $

Christine: Thanks for posting that first chapter of "Dark of the Elvenwood." Now I'm looking forward to the book even more, so far it seems like it will be even better than CotSB was. Hope it soon is able to see the light of day. When copies are available, I'll be among the first to buy one. <grin>

Wilek: $ It's good to know you aren't out of the RP forever, hope you can come back to it soon. :) $ Thanks for the hilarious demon entities and sex hormone bits.

SJ: Fight Club was really that good? Hmm, the Daily Texan and Austin Statesman critics also thought so. Maybe Doug and I will go see it. At least to find out what the "next stage" is. :) We agree with you about Edward Norton's acting ability, though we've only seen a few movies with him (and American History X is the only one I can remember much). Thanks for the lengthy review.

Halloween: Glad to know the Wiccans of the world have interesting plans for it. :) If anyone wants to know, Doug and I are making progress in assembling our Team Rocket costumes. We have the suits, the gloves, the Pokeballs, and the jewelry. Only problem now is the hair. And that will probably be the hardest thing. :)

Nightwalker: Your Angie's coming? Alright! Hi in advance, newcomer! And welcome! <grin>

That's all for tonight. Gotta go sleep now, tiring day and more tiring one ahead tomorrow (paper to work on). So later. <waves>

**RESUME RP ACTION**

"Okay," Lathrop finishes his phone call. "Give my regards to the kids. I'll try to be home for a while as soon as I can. Talk to you later. I love you. Bye." "Is she okay?" Doug asks the wizard as he hangs up. "She's fine," Lathrop replies. "Thanks for stopping so I could speak with her. I really needed to hear Ruth's voice." "Don't mention it," Doug grins. "I understand." "Can we get going now?" Erin inquires loudly. "This part of the story still needs to be closed!" "Yeah, you're right," Kit agrees. "Let's go." "No, let's not," says Shauna. "I want to stay here and do nothing." They all turn to her with raised eyebrows, Mist looking especially confused. "Relax," the archer grins. "I was kidding. Of course I want to see this done." Except for Erin, they all share a laugh. "Are your friends always like this?" she asks Gubio. "No," he replies. "Usually, they're worse." "Oh boy." "Can we leave the arguments for later?" Doug asks then. "We need to find Wilek and SJ."
"Hold on!" Orion shouts suddenly. "Someone's coming!" The Ravens all turn to spot a vague figure advancing towards them down the tunnel. It is soon revealed to be a sneering Phalanx drone in a dark suit. "Who goes there?" Orion calls at it. "Identify yourself!" "Yeah," Jammer agrees. "We need to take your name before we kick your ass!" "Very well," the drone smiles. "I'm Mr. Whiplash of Whiplash, Fracture, Splinter, and Kerplunk Liability Lawyers." "Lawyers?" asks Boris. "We have to fight lawyers again?" "Only one lawyer, Boris," Stephanie tells him. "Unless someone sees more." Mist hisses loudly in reply, just as about five dozen more Phalanx drone lawyers, paralegals, and other associated staff ooze out of the tunnel walls. "Yep," Kit sighs as she loads her rocket launcher and takes aim at them. "We're going to have to fight lawyers once again." The others nod and prepare their weapons as the laughing Whiplash and his cohorts begin to close in.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Kitainia
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:49:35 AM
IP: pool-209-138-161-76.dlls.grid.net

Firestorm-Crete Illinois, spelled the exact same way as the on in rome.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:49:12 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

oops , put in dark blue instead of dusk blue
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:44:05 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

oops , put in dark blue instead of dusk blue.
night walker
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:42:19 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

Hello all , angie , my angie , should be here soon .

See , this is how a post should look like. if you wanted to talk to a certain person typetheir name like this:

Night Angel-and then reply of just say something to them.

You can talk about pretty much anything , consult the rules first hehe , I almost made that mistake a few months ago.

Now everybody , be nice to angie. And keep the sanity-sucking down to a minimum.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Saturday, October 16, 1999 01:41:09 AM
IP: proxy-523.public.rwc.webtv.net

Trio test results in: Lexington, the highest, 47% woo-hoo! Broadway, 41%, yeah "You messed with my partner. And when someone messes with your partner, you're gonna have to do something about!" Brooklyn, 12%, hmm, no wonder...as well as other reasons that have to do with annoying and fustrating me. Oh well, that's all, folks!
Angie - [Goliathgirl5@yahoo.com]
USASaturday, October 16, 1999 12:56:37 AM
IP: dial209.b2.tnt4.wa.freei.net

***BEGIN RP***
The Sphinx Phalanx roared and began its attack.
"I've got things handled," Black Tiger shouted, then he unleashed a devastating fireball attack at the creautre. Flames engulfed the beast, who roared in pain. After the fire died down, the Sphinx remained where it stood--virtually unharmed except for a few scorch marks.
"This could be trouble," Black Tiger admitted, his voice wavering for a moment.
SJ fired several blasts from his rifle, but it had little effect on the beast, other than to keep it at bay temporarily. Kari's spear was no help either; its energy projectiles did little more than stun the creature momentarily.
Suddenly, Wilek snapped his claws. "Wait....I've got an idea of how to take this thing out!"
"We'd better hurry," SJ said grimly. "Time's running out for my dad!"
***END RP***

Fight Club review at the end.

Lord of the Rings news: Well, it is official--actor Stuart Townsend, who had been cast as Aragorn, has been let go of the film. No official word is given as to why, but the generally accepted rumors are that there was "creative differences" between Jackson and Stuart, as well as concern from the studio over Mr. Townsend's abilities. It has also now been confirmed that actor Viggo Mortenson HAS wasted no time in signing the dotted line. So, we have a new Aragorn. Again, I'm not sure how Viggo will do in the part; he is a capable actor, and I've enjoyed some of his work, so we'll see how he does.

Coyote: Well, I didn't want to come out and say I thought the Ramseys did it, for fear of reprisal...but I agree with you. Even with the botched investigation, no evidence of foreign DNA or materials were found on her body...meaning the only evidence present was that which was there naturally, i.e. from the natural inhabitants of the house. I don't think the O.J. Simpson "real killer" story is going to work here.
I don't know if you're familiar with it, but Mad TV routinely has a "John and Patsy Ramsey" bit they do, featuring cast members acting as the couple. It's pretty scathing, especially when they have John killing people left and right...

Wilek: Well, I do hope that you will join the RP again shortly. I've sorta include a doorway in my RP this evening...anyway, I'm open to suggestions on Prime's death. I would like to have him killed off after a few more posts (and a big battle, naturally ;). I didn't have any ideas as to how to do away with him (although there is a secret I want him to reveal, but he has to stay breathing to do that!), so we can go with yours if you want. Email me the info if you want, unless you wanna keep it a secret! ;)
Oh, and perchance was that Necronomicon a little book? Called the "Necronomicon Spellbook" or something like that? I've seen that. Shame it's not like the stuff good ol' Lovecraft made up for his stories, or the one used in the Evil Dead movies. I have a copy of the Necronomicon from the net, if you want it. It doesn't include spells, or anything like incantation rituals, though.

Jannie: Sweet Mary, Mother of God!!! You look like you had grounds for a malpractice suit there. What is it with doctors now, anyway? I've heard tons of horror stories where the patients go in for surgery or some other dangerous procedure, and they WAKE UP during it cause the docs didn't give them enough goofy gas. I hope your health has improved since then, though :)

Kaioto: So, you like Demon Hunter X, huh? :) That's one of my favorite little supplements to the game, too. Finally, we humans get to kick a little hiney, huh? Not just a bunch of Blood Bags are we? Show the Licks who means business. Of course, White Wolf is putting out an all new storytelling game in just a couple weeks, Hunter: The Reckoning. I'm gonna get it; it's supposed to be a pretty comprehensive guide for creating Hunter characters, equipped with their own powers as well (Smite, for instance, fries baddies like KFC). [Of course, it's fun to check out the die-hard players reactions to the new game over at the White Wolf site. The "purists" are crying like babies. They're afraid that their precious little chronicles are gonna be invaded by hordes of Buffy-wannabees. Bleh ;-p)

Pagan holidays: Thanks to everyone for the info. I was just curious as to what holidays the Wiccan faith had; I was halfway sure that Halloween, or in this case, Samhain, was a pagan holiday, but wasn't sure. I must also say I appreciate the religious tolerance as well. :)
But personally I think it'd be fun to explain a pagan holiday to an employer. "Uh, sir, I can't come in on Friday. My witches' coven and I are going to be celebrating the Samhain Sabbat." ;)

****AND NOW, the FIGHT CLUB REVIEW. And it's REALLY, REALLY LONG!***
The first rule of Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club.
The second rule of Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club.
So, therefore, I won't talk about Fight Club...the plot that is. For you see, to give away too much of this film would ruin it. It's like Sixth Sense; if you knew the ending going into the film, it doesn't pack the same punch. And there's a portion of this film--labeled "The Twist" by some--that will ruin the entire picture if I talk about it. Just going too much into the plot, regardless, takes away from the pure cinematic experience.
I'll give you the bare bones, though, because that much the papers will tell you. Edward Norton portrays the Narrator (his name is never really given). He's a typical yuppie in middle management, working as a recall agent in an automobile company (he accesses a car lines faults, and decides whether it would cost more for the company to recall the vehicles or to settle out of court with all the families that will ultimately lose loved ones do to the inferior products). He's got a bad case of insomnia, and under the joking recommendations of his doctor, he tries to relieve his stress by going to a support group for men with testicular cancer. Once there, he finds he can let go of his frustrations, but he becomes addicted to support groups. Before long, he's spending his nights with the cancer folks, the tuberculosis sufferers, even the poor souls afflicted with blood parasites. It is in these circles he meets fellow support group addict Marla, who has an important role later.
On a business trip, our protagonist meets one Mr. Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt), a bizarre young man who spends his time working as a projection runner (and splicing in pornography into the kiddie flicks), a waiter (he enjoys pissing into the soup), and, of all things, a soap maker. Through a strange turn of events I won't go into (you'll have to see the film!), the Narrator and Norton hit it off. Literally. They bond one night over beers, as Tyler scorns Narrator for his rapid consumerism and conformity. Then they proceed to the parking lot, where Tyler incites a fight. Before long, he and the Narrator are trading blows. It's a release. It's a way to feel something, anything, even pain. A friendship is formed, a Club is formed, and to paraphrase the voice in Field of Dreams, "If you kick some ass, they will come." Before long, Fight Club is thriving. And soon, it's far more than that.
That's all I'm gonna give of the plot...it could be too much already. This is a film you'd best enter with as little previous info as possible. Trust me, it's better that way.

On to the technical and other aspects of the picture. First we'll start with the actors.
People are always saying that Robert DeNiro is one of the best actors alive. They could have a valid point, but DeNiro is largely typecast into the same roles (mob guy, tough guy, crazy guy, etc.). But let me say this--Edward Norton is one of the best actors alive-PERIOD. This young man is absolutely phenomenal. He's only about 30, and has 2 Oscar noms so far...and trust me, he will have dozens more when his career is over with. He is so dead on perfect in this film...it is a treasure to watch him. He's at times confused, amused, disgusted. He frightened by what's going on around him and is at times frightening. And he is so utterly believable in this role; he flawless in his execution. There is no hint of Edward Norton in the film, only the Narrator.
For quite some time, Brad Pitt's acting ability has been questioned. Let me put that to rest--I'm now convinced Brad is one hell of a damn fine actor. The role he pulls off in this film...Tyler is seductive and funny. He's persuasive and charismatic. He's horrifying and disturbing. He is something of a celluloid deity; this is a character that will remain with me for some time, and Pitt breaths life into him. He's more than just a pretty boy; the man can act, he can act remarkably well, but I just wonder why all of his best performances have him taking the part of a psycho?
Helena Bonham Carter was also good in her role as Marla. While not as heavy a role as the gentleman of the film, she adds to the plot very nicely. Her character can best be described as tragic, and it's certainly a different kind of role than Ms. Carter is used to taking.

This movie has been criticized strongly by some. I must say this--Some of you will hate it. Most of you may hate it. It is a very dark, disturbing film. It is bizarre, it is extraordinarily violent. It can be considered, at times, even chauvinistic.
It's also brilliant.
It's main controversy, however. lies in the messages it displays. These men are not beating the hell out of each other for nothing. It's because they represent the epitome of disenfranchisement. Their world has been reduced, as Tyler explains, into the neverending rat race of consumerism. They are drones in the collective, cogs in the machine. They work in jobs they hate, and for what? To sift through Ikea catalogs and pick out all that stylish furniture. To buy some more Calvin Klein tidy whities underwear. To spend their money on crap they don't need, and, if they realized it, don't want in the first place. ("The things you own wind up owning you.") They have been raised in a fatherless family, where their only role models have been women. As a result, they have been culturally castrated and feminized; the support group for testicular cancer is a not-so-subtle realized symbol of this. The character of Bob in the film (played by Meatloaf) is the symbol of this generation's male; he's been deprived of that which defines him as a man (his testicles), and to make matters worse, the hormone treatments he must take have given him enormous breasts. These are men who have no place; they are the Displaced. As a result, they fight. To feel something. To feel ANYTHING. Through their pain, they find enlightenment; after all, what's more manly then getting your nose broken by a fellow brother? And the cycle escalates. Before long, Fight Club is huge. Then it grows...and then it becomes something else (again, I won't spoil things).
This film has been getting anywhere from good to lukewarm to scathing reviews. It's not surprising. This film exposes a lot of the crap we have fallen into the last few decades. It steps on a LOT of toes. It's a dark comedy, lampooning the hypocrisy and PC-ness of our times (for instance, Tyler uses the human fat sucked out with liposuction to make his soap. Then he sells the soap to expensive department stores for 20 bucks a bar. As it's so eloquently put, rich ladies then buy and use said soap, never realizing the irony that they are washing themselves with "the fat taken out of their own asses".). It's also a very disturbing film that pushes the envelope with a lot of social commentary. Yet is shows the dangers of what happens when the "revolution" against the factors oppressing us goes too far (watch the film--see what the Fight Club eventually turns into). I thought it was easily the best film I've seen all year. One of the best films I've seen in a loooong time. 4 stars, 10 stars, thumbs up, whatever system you'd like. I have to rate it so highly, do to the performance, the writing, the so many dead-on observations of the modern world, the delicate intricacies, the absolutely beautiful directing that is a sheer onslaught on the senses....it worked for me. Hope it works for you.

As a side note, I do fear one aspect of this film. I fear that this film is a "Natural Born Killers" waiting to happen. Unfortunately, we all know all too well that there are those who have trouble disassociating fantasy with reality. As such, I fear that this film may inspire some...shall we say "less-balanced" individuals....to develop their own Fight Clubs...or that they may skip that step and go straight to the next stage of Fight Club (if you see the movie, you'll know what I mean). I fear this movie may draw attack if such a thing occurs.
***END FIGHT CLUB REVIEW***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, October 16, 1999 12:50:02 AM
IP: 207-172-41-236.s236.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

I picked up a copy of the Blair Witch Project soundtrack today. <blink> What, exactly, is the logic of releasing a soundtrack for a movie that doesn't have music...? Oh, and I encountered a copy of the Necronomicon at Waldenbooks. Heh. Almost bought it, then remembered what happened the *last* time demonic entities invaded my home (still haven't gotten the stains off the ceiling)...

Pistoff> <<he drove into the guy's driveway to pop the paper into the box, then backed out and went on his way. The customer filed a complaint because the driver...and this is an exact quote, here..."damaged my gravel.">> Eh...? <shakes head> Such people as these will die a slow, slow death... <<the doctor who operated on me that night is dead now. I'm not kidding. One day he was skiing and slammed into a tree at maximum speed and basically pulped himself.>> <muhahaha> Karma strikes again. >:)

SJ> It's been three years since JonBenet was killed?! Eesh, I had no idea...and they still haven't solved it? <sigh> Either the police doing the investigating are utter imbeciles, or someone's been bought off. $Oh, by the way, how do you plan to have the Phalanx Prime die (or do you just yet)? Because a great death scene has been running through my mind for hours now. >8)$

Robby> <<it was exactly one year ago today that I posted here for the first time, in this color, with this name, and this picture.>> Kewl! Happy anniversary! :D

Doug> <<The other thing is that I've entered another fanfic inspiration dry spell. Yeah, I'm still turning out scenes, but I always seem to feel like they're mediocre and not good. :(>> <sigh> I've been there. I've had fanfics that I was convinced would bomb, and people actually liked them. (That may be why my fifth fic is still in beta...) Best of luck with this, friend. <<thus I feel like fewer people care about my work, and therefore I shouldn't care either. So I'm thinking I just should stop writing entirely. It's not bringing much to my life, it's taking up time I could use for other things (though what I am not sure), and though I do enjoy it, I'm just not feeling fulfilled by it anymore. So I may stop.>> :( Hm...not sure how I can help (other than offering feedback, when I manage to free up some time ^_^), since...I've always had an odd attitude toward why I write. Basically, it's because there's this huge world in my mind that I hope to record in a more permanent medium; I've never really been concerned with how much feedback I receive. (But then, I'm not all that well adjusted anyhow...) $<<I too am worried about Wilek's RPing, hope he's able to get back to it soon.>> :) No worries, friend; the only reason I haven't RPd lately is because I don't want to disrupt anything anyone else is planning. I've been cooking up a strange little surprise or two while on break (including some interesting insights into the history of the Borg), though. Hee hee hee.$ <<Also concerned about Kyryn, Dumlao, and the Green Baron (especially the latter, hope he's not having computer troubles again). Anybody heard from these people recently and know where they are?>> Well, GB's posted tonight, but I'm also wondering about the other two...<<Like Kit, I don't really care what sex hormones do to the lifespan of worms, or my lifespan. It's good to release them, getting rid of the tension they bring feels great (as I'm sure all the guys in here know).>> <chuckles evilly> Let me show y'all something. [Wilek escorts the occupants of the CR to a specially reinforced cage, containing what looks like a cross between Wilek and I.R. Baboon.] This is the physical manifestation of my hormones. I...coerced...it into submission about...I think it was about ten years ago. (Its blood still stains my favorite katana. >8D ) It hasn't been out of this cage since. [Wilek begins tormenting the manifestation of his hormones with a cattle prod.] Dance, Monkey Boy, DANCE! MUHAHAHAH! Anyhow, if it threatens to become agitated...well, watch. [Wilek shows the caged Neanderthal a few of the more randy images from the Annex of Christine's site (Thanks Christine!). It hops about gleefully, triggering six flamethrowers to burn it alive, screaming and writhing in agony.] Oh how I love hearing those screams. >8D

Warpmind> <<To my knowledge, almost everything above vitamins, cough medicine and acetylsalisylics are on prescription only. (Norway is one of the strictest countries like that... even caffeine tabs are prescription drugs.)>> O_O That...ack. Unnecessarily prudent IMHO.

Matt Dymond> <<I checked out those Dalek figures you were interested in. They are on about the same size as your standard Star Wars/Trek figure (five inches approx) and made mostly from plastic from what I could tell. They come in a wide variety of colours. The classic Black and silver, through reds, golds blues and some that are finished in that glittery paint.>> Black and silver ones? Kewl! Thanks for telling me about this! :D <<The company doesn't export any goods to the USA as far as the staff present knew, but were not absolutely certain. I'll see if the manager is in at the weekend. They cost seven pounds (6.99) which is just under twelve dollars. Let me know if you're interested in aquiring one, the postage costs aren't likely to be too much and I can probably sort it out for you myself if needs be.>> Hm...do they have a 1-800 number?

Kaioto> Sick? :( [Not feeling immediately inspired, Wilek digitizes Sli Sludge with the contraption from Tron and FTPs him to Hexidecimal's lair.] Get well soon, friend!

Jannie> Medical horror stories> AAAAAAUUUUUGGGHHHH!!!! You woke up during...<shudder> Aii...No wonder you had a heart attack; I would have had all that and more...<<Oh yeah, the doctor who tried to blame the heart attack on me... he had the audacity to tell me I needed to loose some weight.>> He told a woman...whose hormone cycle had just gone through the equivalent of an Apocalypse thanks to the removal of its regulatory organs...that she needed to lose weight. :O He's lucky he got off with just a biting remark, and I think you are *admirably* psychologically balanced. ;) <<I told him that I would make a deal with him... I would have a mammogram done if he would allow me to examine his penis with a sledgehammer. *evil grin* Needless to say, I did not have to have a mammogram and he wrote a year's supply of estrogen medicine for me. *snickers* Also, the nurse gave me high fives after he left the examining room...>> <MUHAHAHA> Would a hearty "You go girl!" be inappropriate here? ^_^ <<I would love all of ya'll to be able to sit in on the "sex" film for 5th graders though...>> <blink> Fifth graders...? <shudders violently>

Green Baron> Glad to see you're OK. ^_^ (Homework's a drag, no? <ack>)

Vampire Novels> Hasn't White Wolf released a few novels based on Vampire: The Masquerade? V:tM is my favorite interpretation of vampire mythology. ^_^

Night Walker> <<Hudson [reply to the grudge one , I said , "anyone that cancelles my fave show"LOL].>> <hehehe> I'm almost sure that most of the Gargs fans who took that test chose that one (I know I did). ;) <<Well , wish me luck all. I'll try. Maybe if she enjoys the film , she'll be a within a fraction of being interested in gargs>> Best of luck, friend. $<<Can anybody tell me at this point what exactly is going on in the RP at this time>> SJ and my teams are in the Sphinx, trying to rescue Dr. Sevarius; I think Doug and Kitainia's team is about to join us (not sure though).$

Zath> Dream> ACK. That sounds like an episode of the Twilight Zone...o_o' <<It's a pity, the vampire probably would have been more interesting assuming it wasn't hungry at the time.>> Heh heh heh. Although I wouldn't have had to worry; garg blood tastes like sand from what I've heard. ^_^ <<The only thing we watched in 5th grade (besides the video of a poorly done gallbladder removal that my teacher felt we had to see for some reason.>> The teachers are showing sex films and surgeries to fifth graders, and ppl have the unmitigated audacity to wonder why there's so much juvenile delinquency. <SHUDDER>
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, October 16, 1999 12:42:53 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

**THe scene opens with Robby laying on a couch, talking to Dr. Scratchinsniff.
"Zo, vat iz ze problem?"
"Well Doc, I've been coming to the TGS CR for a year now and..."
"Oh, vell then, go avay. I can't help you, it is too late. You, are nutz."**

Spent all of yestersday working on my college portfolio, very tiring and time consuming. And I figured since this is the one year anniversary of my arriving to this CR, I should post SOMETHING worthwhile...

Pistoff- I'm the ULTIMATE Vinnie fan. Go back and reread Trust No Future in Timedancer season 2 for evidence of this. Minnie was nowhere to be seen in the original outline, and Vinnie features prominetly later on in my own fics, (after I found out what his name was)...

Warpmind- The Elfquest movie will be animated, when CBS suggested it be liveaction 15 years asgo they immediately said NO! And when I talked to Wendi briefly like 6 years ago during the 15 anniversary tour, she said they were thinking Shenah O Conner for the voice of Leetah...

Jenna- Care to fill me in on some of that stuff that's dissillusioned you to Elfquest? I've met Wendi and Richard and I wasn't too dissillusioned... (Granted, it was right after KOTBW came out and I was still an Elfquest newbie...)

Monthly Visitor- What about it? Its not exactly a big deal as far as I'm concerned. It happens, thats all there is to it.

Gargoyles personality test- I came out like 70% Brooklyn, and 30% Lex. No wonder I like Brook so much.

Sailor Moon personality test- Apparently I'm three parts Mercury, two parts Venus, four parts Saturn and Uranus,and 3 parts Tuxie... So I'm not really like any of the Sailor Scouts, though I thought I'd be dominently Mercury or Tuxedo Mask... Kinda a relief actually...Of course, since I know nothing about Saturn or Uranus as characters...

Princess Mononoke- I'll say it AGAIN... DISNEY is behind the translation and payment for it. They've had Neil Gaiman do the translation work. They've had top quality voice talent work on it. But their contract does not allow them to cut ANY footage, and they are releasing THROUGH Mirimax, because Disney knows the content within the PG-13 film will get them in trouble if openly associated with them. Disney is apparently staying as true to possible to the source, and because of this, are taking precations to NOT be associated with the project. Not only that, but its only being released in like, 15 theaters> How the hell do they expect it to do well with no advertising, endorsement, or release? If I have to go to Houston November 5th to see it, so be it, but Disney is sure being a bunch of dumb ****S about this...

Aaron- Kiss in NIMH? Wha? Do explain.
Robby
Saturday, October 16, 1999 12:30:30 AM
IP: spider-wm033.proxy.aol.com

Greetings:

Vampire novels: What can I say, I love these things. I've read Anne Rice, P.N. Elrod, Laurell K. Hamilton and so many authors who write for Whie Wolf publishing. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
For the more cerebral look into the lives of the vampires Anne Rice is hard to beat, however if its a good laugh you want I can recommend the Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton. They are a bit graphic however in their portrayal of sex and violence so reader discression is advised.
As for the White Wolf novels I have played all the World of Darkness games since their release(I actually was playing werewolf back when it was a part of Steve Jackson games.) and have loved them ever since. The vampires presented in the games and the books have a society on their own and it is interesting to delve into their reality for a time. It should be noted that I am more a fan of Mage than Vampire.
All in all it can be said that most of the novels that I have read have been excellent at best and abysimal at worst. Here are a few titles that I recommend.

Anne Rice: Read the Vampire Cronicles in order and keep them handy to refer back to if you take a large break between reads. Add Servent of the Bones for some more insight into the supernatural in Rice's world.

White Wolf: Read the game books first in order to understand the basic politics behind the novels and then jump in. I recommend:

ALL:
-Essential World of Darkness
-Quintessential World of Darkness

Vampire:
-The Beast Within(Anthology)
-The Masquerade of the Red Death Trillogy: Blood War, Unholy Allies and The Unbeholden(Robert Weinberg)
-The Trillogy of the Blood Curse: Devil's Advocate, The Winnowing and Dark Prophecy(Gherbod Flemming)
-The Clan Novel Series: Thirteen novels each featuring one of the clans in the game(Various authors)

Mage:
-The Horizom War Trillogy: The Ascension Warrior, The Road to Hell, The War In Heaven(Robert Weinberg)**Excellent series. I wrote and essay of the principles of reality being defined by the masses for an english course that I took with quotations from this series.**
-Tower of Babel(I don't Remember)

Laurell K. Hamilton: Read all of the Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series, It's a riot. You can get the current novels in an anthology through the Science Fiction Book Club. The next Novel is due out in January.

Well that's my two cents. Have fun.
Yggdrasil - [gperry@worldchat.com]
Ontario, Canada
Friday, October 15, 1999 11:53:20 PM
IP: dialin77.hamilton.globalserve.net

Fire Storm: Princess Mononoke is being shown at the Landmark Maple Art Theatre ... West Maple and Telegraph. Clicky on my name link for details ... if you go to the top of the page it'll give ye some info on the film.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 15, 1999 10:29:45 PM
IP: modem43.i-is.com

Coyote: Princess Monokote: Well, one question: what theater? Star Southfield? (I HOPE. That theater RULES!)
BTW... Whats Princess Monokote about? I really haven't been reading about the movie, so I am not quite sure what it is about <Blush>.

Monokote: Check my link for the only Monokote I REALLY know about.

night walker: I am curious... where are you moving to?

Zath: But you DID sleep in. It is Saturday!
<G>

Teeth: I do not look forward to having my wisdom teeth removed. From where they are, I think they are messing with my jaw. I can't open it all the way without it locking in one spot then popping out with a <>CRACK<> that can be heard 10 feet away.
Screw local. Knock me out so I don't wake up until Monday.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, October 15, 1999 10:15:01 PM
IP: t2-36.visitus.net

Hey there. I thought I saw a post about someone who never received a Golf shirt from G99. If you know who this person might be or you are the unforuate one please contact me and I will see what I ca do for you.

Thanks all.
draconis - [Draconis@kua.net]
Friday, October 15, 1999 09:53:39 PM
IP: 179-71.kua.net

We were talking about clan systems in anthropology today. I bet everyone can guess what I was thinking about all class... Actually most of it really did fit, except for the methods of tracing lineage. The gargs are more concerned with age-grades than with matrilineal or patrilineal relations.

Also, I had a really weird experience today. I didn't have any classes after lunch, so I took a nap (no, that's not the strange part). Then I had a super-realistic dream where I got up again, ate dinner, did some house work, and went to bed again. Then I had another dream, this time one of my "normal" completely bizarre dreams, so when I woke up, I thought I had actually lived through all of Friday night already, then slept until 4pm Saturday! I'm still kind of mixed up and all my roommates are laughing at me : )...

Wilek> <<wasn't there a vampire mystery novel featuring Sherlock Holmes? I thought I encountered one in the library once (the book, not a vampire)... >> It's a pity, the vampire probably would have been more interesting assuming it wasn't hungry at the time.

Trio personality test> It claims I'm 22% Brooklyn, 42% Lexington, and 36% Broadway

The Gargoyles Personality Test> I came out with 2 answers for Brooklyn and one answer for everyone else except for Broadway

Pistoff> <<The bastard should have his lisence revoked.>> I guess the moral of the story is never trust any member of the medical/dental profession that has to have their practice in the local mall. Unfortunately, the guy was the only orth in town who didn't close 2 hours before either of my parents could get off work. <<That's one of the reasons I don't bother with dentists (aside from the fact that I can't afford it and I don't have any
medical insurance)>> Actually, since there's a dental college on campus, I could get my teeth cleaned and stuff for free, but that would mean going back to being practice dummy, which I'm just not desperate enough to do yet, so I'm getting my next cleaning when I'm home (TX) for Christmas. At least this guy seems competent so far. <<The only foreign films that are truly successful here are the ones starring Jackie Chan and Chow Yun-Fat and have lots of $h!t blowing up and bodies flying around.>> Every once in a while (though nowhere near often enough) that isn't completely true. Didn't Trainspotting do pretty well? (or did it get a lot of attention, but not enough money?)

SJ> <<Note to self: if I must kill someone, remember to do it in Boulder.>> Please don't, I have relatives living there and I'd rather not have them get caught in the crossfire...

Warpmind> <<Norway is one of the strictest countries like that... even caffeine tabs are prescription drugs.>> **blinks** Wow... <<*slaps both hands over mouth* oh, um... you know what I mean? *Sigh.*>> **snicker**

jenna> <<Found a new comic called Tooth and Claw>> Just from the picture on the front page, I'd say it looks like Maggie and Claw got recaptured by old Anton S. and he injected their DNA into the Incredible Hulk and Aeon Flux... : )

Cassandra> <<One tradition also said that the Seelie and Unseelie courts had divided the year in half. From Samhain to Beltane, the Unseelie court could roam the earth freely playing what tricks they wanted on mortals.>> Interesting, the TGS staff must have really done their research since the Unseelie ride was on Halloween (Samhain) and Emrys mentioned that it was Beltain in The Darkest Hour.

Toku Kaioto> **Zath blasts Sil Sludge in the face using a shotgun filled with rock-salt** Get well soon!

Jannie> <<One dentist put his knee in my chest to remove a wisdom tooth that was not "dead" yet.>> You got your wisdom teeth out under just a local anesthetic?!? Wow, and I thought just getting one tooth out that way was hellish to the extreme. <<Another dentist injected me with the novocane and hit the wrong vein... my sinus cavities went numb instead of the tooth root.>> That's even worse than a story I heard (I think it was a friend of my grandmother's, but I'm not sure), but there was this lady who needed to have something done to her teeth, so the dentist puts that sucky thing (it's no fun to just call it a vacuum) in her mouth and gives her a shot of novocain in the cheek. Ten minutes later he comes back and asks if she's numb yet. She shakes her head no, so he gives her another shot. Ten minutes later, she's still not numb, so he tries a third time. Once again, ten minutes later, he asks if she's numb yet. She takes the sucky thing out of her mouth and says, "No, but my shoulder's wet." Apparently, the gut had been putting the needle *all the way* through her cheek!!! <<I looked at him thru estrogen deficient eyes and said, "You are no Kevin Costner - practice what you preach".>> *LOL* <<Also, the nurse gave me high fives after he left the examining room... hehehehe>> **jumps up and applauds** <<I would love all of ya'll to be able to sit in on the "sex" film for 5th graders though... it's hilarious! *LOL* Bless their little naive hearts ;)>> The only thing we watched in 5th grade (besides the video of a poorly done gallbladder removal that my teacher felt we had to see for some reason. It was so bad, the doctor kept completely missing the gallbladder with the laser and burning lines in the liver) was something they claimed was a sex-ed film, but it was almost entirely about the importance of bathing often.

Dags> <<The Lost Boys is always a good one to see>> I think that's going to be on cable tonight.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 09:26:46 PM
IP: ppp-224-077.usc.edu

DOUG - Sorry about the no-feedback business; I'll start sending you in some for future stories. I do think that you're quite a good writer. I'm sorry to hear that you've been feeling discouraged over the low feedback on your work.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, October 15, 1999 08:18:23 PM
IP: 216.87.46.209.dialup-stl.primary.net

Dags: You liked it? Great, that's good to hear! :) If you're wondering, I'm planning a follow-up to that story where the Punisher escapes from jail and makes a final spree of chaos (it will have to be final because he's too unstable to remain alive and on the good side for long) for sometime next year, tentatively titled "Vigilante War."

The next story will be out by Halloween probably. Keep the good vibes coming, people, and it will be done! <prays> Otherwise the depression might prevent it. :(
Doug
Friday, October 15, 1999 07:31:18 PM
IP: pool-207-205-148-132.dlls.grid.net

Hey all

I just found out that I'm moving again in june, at least I get to have a whole school year here.I'll fill you guys in later , gotta make this quick , just got an e0mail from my angie.

Personality test- well , I got 1/2 Goliath [big surprise there] and 1/8ths of Lexington , Demona , and Hudson [reply to the grudge one , I said , "anyone that cancelles my fave show"LOL].

Trio test- this is strange , 32% Brooklyn , 32% Lex , and 36% Broadway , almost even.

Spike, vampire joke-AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! My 14 year old virgin ears are in pain. This makes me sick that all of you could carry on about that time of the month. YUK

Princess Mononoke-Dammit! Disney'll never learn if they keep selling them short. First they cancelled gargs[weep] , then they kept on changing it's position, now they've made princess mononoke a very limited release. Well , at least there's a theater showing it about an hour away . I doubt mom would be very interested in taking me. An my godmother's extremly stressed out, and I've no family besides them that would ever do anything for me. Well , wish me luck all. I'll try. Maybe if she enjoys the film , she'll be a within a fraction of being interested in gargs [doubt it as much as a new gargs season on tv, sorry , but both are extremly doubtful right now]. PLEASE PLEASE , WISH ME LUCK ON THIS NARROW CHANCE.

Sorry- I forgot who typed the link to the mononoke info, thank you so much.

Well , I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow.

Can anybody tell me at this point what exactly is going on in the RP at this time , night walker and Julius are getting restless.

bye for now , my friends.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Friday, October 15, 1999 07:27:04 PM
IP: proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net

Ahh, a good day's work outta the way and now I've got my birthday gift (my new hood ornament ... at last my Caddy will be a complete Caddy! :). To a certain extent, life is good.

Personality Test: I came up as a Sevarius experiment crossing Brooklyn and Broadway.

Vampire Novels: I personally prefer Chelsea Quinn Yarbro vampires, myself ... blame my mother for that one, if it was up to her she'd run off to have an affair with the Comte de Saint Germain. :)

Warpmind re: South Park: I realize that. I'm a SP fan, and in fact I saw that ep with the piglet (the ep's "An Elephant Makes Love To A Pig") in first-run. I knew it was a joke, but it still made me cringe, even as I chuckled.

Shogun: Fun stuff, that gene splicer. :)

Princess Mononoke: I lucked out, there's *one* theater in Detroit showing it. Though I'll be damned if I know where the hell it is. Hey, FS, wanna carpool? :)

JonBenet Ramsey: My mom has a book released last year which discusses how thoroughly the Boulder PD f***ed up the Ramsey investigation ... an investigation, might I add, that despite the father's admission of moving the body, never *once* pointed at her parents as potential suspects, as far as the Boulder PD goes. Come ON, people! There's mountains of evidence, and there isn't a single person in the friggin' *WORLD* who doesn't think ... no, *know* ... that the parents did it!! (Other than that nimrod grand jury, I might amend)

Robby: Good luck with portfolio day.

Jannie: Good GAWD!! **shudder** I am certainly glad that's in your past.

Warpmind again, re: Diablo II: Dollars to donuts, though, says the Amazon's going to be the best character to play in the game. It's the way it worked in the first game ... whenever I play it, I'm always the Rogue, mainly because she gets the fastest attack timing (it's quicker for her to shoot an arrow than it is for the knight to swing a broadsword or the mage to fart in his attacker's face ... I'm sorry, I hate the Mage in that game, he's so damned weak I get slaughtered six seconds into the friggin' labyrinth.), and it's a lot easier to advance through levels with her than with the others and still retain a bit of your original health. Long distance attacking is my friend. "Hmm ... deer shoots salt, deer gets healthy. Hey, I like that!"

**shakes head to compose self**

Whoa ... lapsed into "Deer Avenger 2" there. :)

Jannie again, re: mammogram story: **cringes but laughs hysterically** Ohh, that's a good 'un. Told it to my mom, she says she'd take it one step further ... rather than a sledgehammer, she'd use a bench vise. :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, October 15, 1999 07:04:51 PM
IP: modem43.i-is.com

Jessie > okay, will try to add it to the Archive this weekend! Glad you liked it!

Book stuff > I got my info on the Northwest Book Fest today ... the topic for my panel is "Elves are People Too: Mythical Races & Earthly Implications." There are three other fantasy writers on it, none of whom I've heard of (fair's fair; they won't know who I am either). It's Sunday Nov. 14th at 1:30 PM, WA State Convention Center in downtown Seattle.

Also > I posted the first chapter of the second MageLore book, for those who don't mind getting a sneak peek months before the earliest possible chance of seeing it in print. Clickie and follow the links ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 06:35:11 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

*walks in, very tired*

hello everyone.....sorry I havent been in here in so long, but I've been busy working a lot lately......they either have me opening or closing, but oh well, it gets me money....planning to upgrade my computer....

Spike > good joke, very funny.....when's your next Fanfic coming out?

Doug > I enjoyed your "Law Enforcement" story, I would've said something earlier, but I've been busy........and when's the next story coming out?

Pistoff > I agree with being able to carry weapon's when delivering pizzas...and when's the second part of Injustice To All coming out?

Halloween > I myself prefer the night before Halloween to halloween itself.....Devil's Night is a funner night to me........I'll be in all black that night, including my black trenchcoat.......

Vampires > I'm a big Anne Rice fan, but I also liked Bram Stroker's Dracula, The Lost Boys is always a good one to see, not to mention also Blade is also a good one to see and then there's always Vampire Hunter D........

Scooby Doo and The Witch's Ghost > good scooby doo movie, though there are a few parts that stick out in my mind....here's one of them:
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Velma: why is it that you are always with Daphne when we split up?
Feddy: I......umm.....
Velma: nevermind, its a good idea anyways.......
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it kinda reminds me of Christine Morgan's Scooby Doo story.......

Joe Boxer > welcome to the room of insanity, hope you enjoy your stay...

Heather > sorry to hear about you getting braces.......

personality test > I'm a brooklyn and lexington with a hint of Goliath and Broadway

well, I gtg to work......I'm closing as usual on a friday night.....

*fades out of the room*
Dags - [Dagastino_2000@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 05:36:35 PM
IP: host-209-214-118-192.bna.bellsouth.net

Warped> *chuckles* don't worry, my meds are working right now =) My family doctor did decide once that he would withhold refilling my estrogen in an attempt to make me have a mammogram. *shakes head* foolish man ;) I told him that I would make a deal with him... I would have a mammogram done if he would allow me to examine his penis with a sledgehammer. *evil grin* Needless to say, I did not have to have a mammogram and he wrote a year's supply of estrogen medicine for me. *snickers* Also, the nurse gave me high fives after he left the examining room... hehehehe
Yes, a hysterectomy could be compared to being neutered.. just hadn't thought about it in those terms... *chuckles*

As far as the "monthly visitor" being a topic of discussion. Personally, even though it is part of nature, etc. it's not top of my list of things to discuss. There are a certain number of body functions that are also a part of nature, just don't care to discuss them ;) *L* I don't make an issue out of it if it's mentioned though. *shrugs* guess it really doesn't matter too much to me - especially being female. ;) I would love all of ya'll to be able to sit in on the "sex" film for 5th graders though... it's hilarious! *LOL* Bless their little naive hearts ;)

"Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject."
Jannie
Friday, October 15, 1999 05:34:33 PM
IP: 196-130.c.esc4.net

Pistoff, Doug, Wilek> Thanks for the advice/encouragement. I've pretty much decided to set up my own continuity now. I'll still keep the elements I originally took from TGS, along with some totally different versions of some other things (I don't have to keep MY Unseelie War rated Y7...).

Anybody who reads Freelance, be looking (in mid November) for a Freelance Sourcebook file, where I'll catalog the characters and events of my saga for ease of reference. If my web page is running by then, which it should be, I'll keep it there. If not, I guess I'll put it on the fanfic archive. I'd rather not do that since there's no way to keep it from going up on New Stories every time I update it. On the other hand, that might be good advertising... :)

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, October 15, 1999 04:14:53 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Well, I finally saw a commercial for the Pokemon movie and it looks.... Oh who am I kidding? I know I'm going to end up seeing it anyway. It's like Phantom Menace. It's unescapable.

Trio test> I came back as the Trio's glorious leader, Brooklyn, leading at 39%.

Brooklyn pops up.

Hey, glory is overrated. Trust me.

Hey, shoo. Get back to the Cyrwayverse.

Pistoff> Ah, good ol' Nyquil. With the original green death flavor. I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green. Merry friggin' christmas.

Warpmind> I'm a hardcore Rogue, so I'll probably stick with the Amazon. Although, the Necromancer sounds interesting enough to make me violate my no wizards policy.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, October 15, 1999 03:38:19 PM
IP: ppp-121.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Warp- Ah! I see! yes, I agree.
JENNA
Friday, October 15, 1999 03:30:28 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Uh, I think we're talking past each other here, Jenna. What I meant was that I doubt I'll find intolerant Sci-fi/fantasy people anywhere. Outside of fantasy and Science Fiction, however, intolerance flourishes.

I hope I cleared the misunderstanding up a bit?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 15, 1999 03:25:46 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Warp- oops. I didn't mean sci fi/fantasy type people that I've met that were intolerant. Other people. People not into scifi/fantasy stuff. Sorry didn't make it clearer.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 03:14:06 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Checking briefly in again.

*Warpmind walks in, careful not to accidentally bump into Jannie and offend her in any way.*

Jannie, you have my most heartfelt sympathy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a hysterectomy would be the female equivalient of castraction, right? *Shudder*

Jenna: Well, frankly, I'd be surprised to find a sci-fi/fantasy related group that was religiously intolerant. I think it has something to do some of the well-concealed preachings within the texts. Or maybe I'm reading too much out of it. (As someone once said: "It's great that you read between the lines - but I think you should try to read the lines as well.")

Green Baron: I know how you feel about the home computer. I'm just lucky to have a key to the school computer room, myself. And I didn't even have to suck up to anyone to get it! (I'm responsible for keeping the room open for students six hours per week, mostly so that they may use school resources for homework. As if that ever happens.)

Sex and Death: *Raises a hand with a completely unenthusiastic "Yeeeeeah!"* I'll be immortal, if thing proceed the way they have... and no jokes, please. I get enough of those from my immediate surroundings. Less after I learned Basic Bo Skills, though... how odd.

Diablo 2: Oooooh, I just checked out the website, www.diabloii.com and guess what? I'll probably play the Paladin, though the choice will be tough... but if I play the Amazon or the Sorceress, I'll probably just gawk at their features and die... *slaps both hands over mouth* oh, um... you know what I mean? *Sigh.* And it's so far ahead, too...

Doubt I'll be able to post more tonight, but you never know.

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 15, 1999 03:06:08 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

oops!
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:56:14 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Green Baron- good to see you-was wondering where youve been.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:55:05 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Green Baron- good to see you-was wondering where youve been.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:55:00 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Dear all fellows of the CR,
I am perfectly fine, but I have been bogged down with schoolwork. I will post afetr all that is taken care of, which will exceed next week. My computer at home is uncooperative, but I have school computers as I am on one right now. Hopefully I'll post again, before November.

Sex and Death> It sounds logical. Sexual intercourse is how we reproduce, regardless of actual reaosns :), so it woudl make sense that lifespan is cut down by this. the amount is insignificant for our long lifespans, but I imagine it is more significant aidifference in shorter lived beings.

OK. Off to the library bookmines :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, LA
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:50:27 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Jannie-- god, that's terrible!!!!

Warp- I agree with you. I like to see the religious tolerance in this room. I move in a lot of scifi/fantasy circles and there is a lot of religious tolerance there as well.
Relgious intolerance really scares me. Me and my family have have seen it rear it's ugly head more than once.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:33:18 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Waking up during surgery, the "monthly visitor" and dentists... I woke up during a complete hysterectomy surgery. I gagged when one of the surgeons hit my stomach, but not before I overheard them discussing golf bags O.o Then I recall someone saying, "oh shit!" and a mask was placed over my face to send me back to Neverland. I had a heart attack during recovery - which went undetected and reappeared 2 days later. I was at an extremely young age for the hyster. plus the heart attack. The doctor tried to blame me by saying that I did not put down family heart history on my admission papers (which I had done). So, even though I no longer experience the "monthly visitor" I am chemically induced estrogen and hormones. Beware to anyone within my grasp should the meds not work ;)
Dentist: I've been to them more times than I care to think about. I especially hate it when they tell me that I can't be feeling any pain - when in fact I am. One dentist put his knee in my chest to remove a wisdom tooth that was not "dead" yet. I felt 50% of the pain of the removal. Another dentist injected me with the novicane and hit the wrong vein... my sinus cavities went numb instead of the tooth root. (after the sensation of drowing) Now, after my attack this past summer, I must have 3 jaw teeth removed. Oh boy.. can hardly wait o_O And they wonder why I'm such a pain in the arse patient *snickers*
Oh yeah, the doctor who tried to blame the heart attack on me... he had the audacity to tell me I needed to loose some weight. I looked at him thru estrogen deficient eyes and said, "You are no Kevin Costner - practice what you preach". He only become *nice* to me when I casually mentioned that my brother was an attorney ;)

Jannie
Friday, October 15, 1999 01:58:04 PM
IP: 196-130.c.esc4.net

Okay, got a few more minutes hand, not much to say anyway...

Toku Kaioto: Get well soon, oh wise friend... and when you do, how 'bout making one long post on role-playing? I'm sure there's a lot of interested people here.

Religious holidays: As always, it's good to see some religious openmindedness around. Face it, how likely is that to be encountered, outside the internet and in small groups? And I agree with Stormy, on the point of not recognizing the actual DATE of Christmas eve, but take a day to recognize the FACT of it. (And I won't bother mentioning the Santa Claus custom, as that would get me into deep water quickly.) After all, we do not know precisely the dates on which Christ was born, or crucufied. Heck, we don't even know the exact YEARS those events happened, only that it was probably something like 30-40 years between those events. Think about it; at the birth of Christ, shepherds had their flocks out in the fields. Now, even though Israel is a generally warm country, I doubt they keep their sheep out in December... Oh, dear... I see I'm ranting... better shut my mouth, then.

Well, later, guys.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 15, 1999 01:46:59 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Wiccan holidays: Again, not a wiccan myself, but I've studied this religion a fair bit. Many Wiccan holidays are close to the dates of Christian holidays, the reason for this being that when the mideval church leaders wanted to get people thinking about Christianity instead of the old pagan festivals, they set Christian festivals around the same time so the people would still be able to celebrate, only they'd be celebrating what the church wanted them to celebrate.

Yule (Pagan) takes place on the Winter Solstice which is either Dec.21 or Dec. 22 depending on the year. They didn't know the exact date of Jesus' birthday so they picked Dec. 25 to correspond with Yule. Similarly, the correspondances go

Pagan--Samhain (Oct.31), Christian All Saint's Day, Nov. 1
Pagan--Imbolgc (approx Feb 2), Christian Candlemas (Feb 2.)
Pagan Spring Equinox (Ostara) I BELIEVE is close to Easter but DON"T QUOTE ME on that last one...

And my feelings on the above:
The medieval church was wrong to push religion down people's throats. Religion must be freely adopted. You can't force anyone to believe something; in their hearts, they will believe what they believe no matter what the outward rituals they perform.
However, I don't think Christian holidays are any less valid for the fact that they were set to correspond (and originally to override) Pagan holidays. The point for me as a Christian isn't what day I recognize Jesus' birthday, but THAT I take the time to recognize it. Same with the Crucifixion (in fact, that's the #1 for me).
I'm quite happy to wish my Pagan friends a Happy Yule and always get a Merry Christmas back, and we get along great :-) in an atmosphere of mutual respect even though our ways differ.

If anyone would like to know a bit more about wicca, I've put up a link to one of my friends' Wiccan websites.
Stormy
Friday, October 15, 1999 01:27:16 PM
IP: dynixpc4.huron.uwo.ca

Ack … sick … too tired … to respond … must finish … reading … ack … *collapses onto a couch*

Sailor Test: Well, I came out a Tuxedo Kamen, with a nice smattering of Usagi and Ami … Seems about up to speed on me … : )

Trio Test: 41% Brooklyn, 35% Broadway, 24% Lexington …make of it what you will … : )

Other Test: Half Goliath, with a dash of Hudson, Lexington, Demona, and Bronx … I can deal with that … : )

I just got my hands on a White Wolf Roleplaying suppliment "Demon Hunter X." It is providing great cultural background for one of my important earlier characters in some stories I’m writing … All I can say about this book is, "Wow … humans don’t suck anymore …"

Ah well, it is about time for me to pass out on the keyboard … hopefully I can get back in the swing soon … erg … ack … weeze … snore … zzzzzzzzzzzz

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Friday, October 15, 1999 01:07:32 PM
IP: 141.133.117.253

Not a wiccan here, but on the halloween question- there is the day of the dead in Mexico. As I'm in south texas, and there is a lot of travel back and forth, I see some influences.

There's a book called The Halloween Tree by Ray Bradbury, that covers the roots of Halloween. A define good read.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 11:43:24 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

*Cassandra enters the Comment room and snaps her talons. A recliner appears in a flash of green light. The silver gargoyle pulls a sheet of paper out of the pouch on her belt and plops into the recliner.*

From Sevarisus Jr.<<Are there what could be "religious holidays" in the particular faith [Wiccan]?>>

My alter ego--the witch--says I need to answer your question. No seriously, she is a witch. She's a practicing Wiccan. Anyway, her's what she says. *Reading from the paper.* Yes, we (Wiccans and other neo-pagans) do have religious holidays. There called Sabbats (not connected to the some vampires from Vampires: Masquerade RPG) and there are eight: Yule (Dec. 22), Imbolc (Feb. 1), Ostara (March 21), Beltane (May 1), Litha (June 22), Lughnasadh (Aug. 1), Mabon (Sept. 21), and Samhain (Oct.31).

According to the tradition I follow, the Divine is divided into two equal parts: the God and the Goddess. The themes surrounding each Sabbat are connected to the cycle They represent. The God (represented by the sun) is born at Yule/Winter Solstice, the Goddess recovers by Imbolc, the coming of Spring is celebrated at Ostara/Spring Equinox, the God and Goddess wed at Beltane/May Day and She becomes pregnant with God, the coming of Summer is celebrated at Litha/Summer Solstice, the first harvest at Lughnasadh, the final harvest at Mabon/Fall Equinox, and the God dies at Samhain/Halloween.

*Cassandra puts the paper back into her pouch.* So Samhain is an important holiday. Since it celebrated the death of the God, represented by the arrival of winter, it was expanded to celebrate all the dead. It is supposed to be one of the few times when the dead can travel freely on the earth, and mortals left food out to substain the dead on their journey. One tradition also said that the Seelie and Unseelie courts had divided the year in half. From Samhain to Beltane, the Unseelie court could roam the earth freely playing what tricks they wanted on mortals. The Seelie court had the same deal from Beltane to Samhain. Make of that what you will.

*She leans back in the reclainer and extends the footrest.*

Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 11:02:04 AM
IP: 199.184.64.170

Bright yellow seems appropriate for this:

Found a new comic called Tooth and Claw- best thing I've seen in comics for a long time. Here's a link- good story and beautiful art.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 10:59:36 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Wow, been so busy this week. This is the first time I've had ten minutes peace to visit the CR and it's Friday afternoon.
Wilek> I checked out those Dalek figures you were interested in. They are on about the same size as your standard Star Wars/Trek figure (five inches approx) and made mostly from plastic from what I could tell. They come in a wide variety of colours. The classic Black and silver, through reds, golds blues and some that are finished in that glittery paint. The company doesn't export any goods to the USA as far as the staff present knew, but were not absolutely certain. I'll see if the manager is in at the weekend.
They cost seven pounds (6.99) which is just under twelve dollars. Let me know if you're interested in aquiring one, the postage costs aren't likely to be too much and I can probably sort it out for you myself if needs be.

Matt Dymond - [MDY21940@yahoo.com]
UKFriday, October 15, 1999 10:59:17 AM
IP: 195.195.164.7

Hi, guys.

Thanks for the moral support about me being kicked out. To kill a misunderstanding, I must emphasize that I am NOT looking for permanent housing. This is merely while I study at this local school (I think it's equal to College level, though I'm not too sure. I't above High School, though) and NOT for the rest of my life. So if I just find a place where I can live until June, I'm happy. And if there's a TV set available to me there, as well, things are even better. (I don't have my own TV, see?). The worst thing is that my rent will probably be higher than it is at present...

Trio Test: 42 percent Lex, 37 percent Broadway and 21 percent Brooklyn... but I knew that already...

Well, I got my short story out of the way... I need sleep, rest, recovery, or whatever... I'll catch ya later.

Oh, before I leave... Pistoff: I think NyQuil is a prescription drug in Norway. To my knowledge, almost everything above vitamins, cough medicine and acetylsalisylics are on prescription only. (Norway is one of the strictest countries like that... even caffeine tabs are prescription drugs.)

Well, later everyone.
*Group hugs all who gave sympathy for housing trouble.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 15, 1999 10:49:52 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

There's also a Pokemon Movie coming out- here's the link.
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 09:59:08 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Well, that didn't work--try this one..
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 09:58:04 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Okay- I can admit when I'm wrong. There IS an elfquest movie coming out- here's a link. Hope it comes out this time...
jenna
Friday, October 15, 1999 09:55:50 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Dentists-I saw this horror movie called "The Dentist" and I will warn all of you now...DON'T GO SEE IT!!! Everytime my dentist reaches for that drill and turns it on I flash back to that movie and I want to get up and run away.

Personality test #1- I focused most on Goliath, but I got a few of the others too. Two of the questions I couldn't really answer because there was no right answer.

Monthly visit- It's never bothered me...probably because I have two sisters. It is part of life and we all know that it happens.

Vampire books- Anne Rices novels are the greatest!

Garg test #2- I'm like Brooklyn at 43%. 33%-Broadway and 24% Lexington.

Warpmind- Sorry to hear about your home, the best of luck to you.

Night everyone.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Friday, October 15, 1999 02:17:52 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

**RP ALERT**

"Uh, okay, Jaden," Kit frowns, still looking unsure. "His mind appears to be clear now," Tricia tells her, and she smiles in relief. "Let's get back to the fight," the half-garg decides. "Ready and eager!" Jaden shouts, rushing back to the battle with ready axe. Kitainia and Tricia follow her, and soon join the Ravens and Avatar forces in hacking their way to the Sphinx's threshold.

They soon reach it, to be knocked back by multiple laser beams fired by a pair of drones standing in the Sphinx temple entrance. "Look at these dorks, Gus," one of the Long John Silver's Fish laughs at the other. "They're never gonna get past us!" "You're right, Sid," Gus agrees. "We're some of the strongest drones in this whole node." Suddenly a blur of bright white forward-flips over the Ravens and lands in front of the fish. "No!" Gus shouts, as the blur-figure goes into a whirling dervish spin and hacks him to pieces with a scimitar. "Fish in need of assistance!" Sid screams in terror. "Help! Hello!!" He fires two more laser beams but the figure parries them a la Curare from Batman Beyond and then blows Sid away with a Russo-Afghan war surplus Kalashnikov. It spins to face the astonished Ravens, and turns out to be a tall woman clad in a milk-white chador-robe. The figure reaches up and removes her headscarf, revealing a dark-eyed face of aristocratic Turkish beauty surrounded by wild sunset-colored hair. She looks the group over and smiles as her eyes rest on a certain gasping chubby, balding, and ponytailed hacker. "Alex 'Gubio' Cleary, I presume?" "Uh," Gubio begins, then gulps. Jammer elbows him in the ribs. "Hey, if this is Erin, she is one of the hottest women I have ever seen." "Ahem," Tricia whispers. "Maybe the second hottest," Jammer sheepishly grins. The mysterious woman turns away to look at the others. "I'm Erin Bey," she introduces herself. "You must be the Black Ravens, Alex has told me a lot about you." "That's right," Doug anwsers, trying hard to keep his eyes away from her shapely figure and on her face. "Uh, pleasure to meet you." "Yes," Kit agrees, shaking her head as she looks the woman over, "we're charmed." Erin gives them a charming smile and turns back to Gubio. "Hey, ogre! You've seen pictures of me before, what's the problem? Introduce me to your friends!" Gubio finally recovers his constitution and nods. "Sure, Erin. This is, uh, Doug, Kitainia, Jammer..."

**SUSPEND RP TILL POST'S END**

Greetings. Felt like posting tonight, so here goes. :) Two things of note happened today. One, I took my statistics exam. Thank God it had more abstract essay "describe the distribution" problems than calculations, I know I made a C or below just 'cause I missed all of the latter. <sighs> This course is too damn hard! Oh well, my mistake to take it in the first place. I'll keep dealing with it now, and hopefully pass. <fingers crossed>

The other thing is that I've entered another fanfic inspiration dry spell. Yeah, I'm still turning out scenes, but I always seem to feel like they're mediocre and not good. :( The recent lack of feedback hasn't helped either. I've only gotten one e-mail on each of the last three stories I posted (thank you again, Peter), and this distresses me a lot. Yeah, I have gotten some other feedback through IM and stars, but that's just not the same. The former is good, though not as good as e-mail. As for the latter, <sighs> a rating alone is just not satisfying to me. In fact, satisfaction is something I'm not getting out of writing fanfic anymore. I still enjoy it, but starting with the story I'm on now and the one before it, I've been doing so less and less. It feels to me as though I'm writing these stories just to get them out of my brain and that's it. I want to write for more reason than that, I want to know that people care what I put out, and that they care more to give me something than arbitary ratings in return. I'm glad for Peter's e-mails and the IMs I've gotten, but I feel like fewer people are giving such things to me. And thus I feel like fewer people care about my work, and therefore I shouldn't care either. So I'm thinking I just should stop writing entirely. It's not bringing much to my life, it's taking up time I could use for other things (though what I am not sure), and though I do enjoy it, I'm just not feeling fulfilled by it anymore. So I may stop. I know I probably have fans who don't want this, so if those people can please make themselves known (and send me valuable feedback!) I may reconsider. Please, people, if you're out there, send me a note. Even if you don't have time to say much, just let me know you've read. It's the only way to keep the saga going, and get me out of this depression. I'll be waiting for it. :)

SJ: <nods> Good point about political races, I agree. $ I too am worried about Wilek's RPing, hope he's able to get back to it soon. $ Also concerned about Kyryn, Dumlao, and the Green Baron (especially the latter, hope he's not having computer troubles again). Anybody heard from these people recently and know where they are?

Monthly Visitor: I know all too well from dealing with my mother, aunts, and sister of the problems this can cause. Thank God Kit is able to control her visitor and thus it hasn't caused any conflicts between us. I personally don't find the idea of it disgusting, it's a perfectly natural process and is thankfully temporary. :) I can deal with its side effects as long as I remember these things.

Sex and Death: Like Kit, I don't really care what sex hormones do to the lifespan of worms, or my lifespan. It's good to release them, getting rid of the tension they bring feels great (as I'm sure all the guys in here know). Especially if it's through a loving and mutually pleasurable for all participants experience (as mine pretty much have been). So, I'm sorry, scientists, you can sell your study's results to the Christian Right, idiots, crooked politicians, hardened criminals, anti-independence losers, and the other people in the world who should not breed but nevertheless somehow do. I'm not going to concern myself with them. :)

Fleur: Glad your asthma's getting better, hope it doesn't come back soon. Read and enjoyed your latest fic, thanks for writing it up. The plot was very intriguing and kept me glued all throughout, and the development done on Stacy, Amber, and Xanatos was all good. Especially enjoyed the action and seeing the Quarryman get their butts kicked (of course I always like seeing jerks like them get beat up, but this time it was very well-written, so it was even better). I gave you five stars (and this feedback), keep up the good work!

Police Brutality: Well, I do still want to be a cop someday, so I will probably have to deal with this. I too do not want to kill people or hurt them excessively and/or unnecessarily, but if I have to I will and the consequences be damned. I have that attitude now, even though I'm not a cop. I've been in plenty of fights, I know all too well how the heat and brutality of battle can force and necessitate acts of violence. I think that as long as I try my best to keep them necessary and in defense of myself and/or someone I care about, both now and later in life, I should be fine. <fingers crossed> That way anyone who suffers my unbridled wrath gets what they deserve. <grin>

Valentine: I too am very worried about that friend you mentioned who would rather live forever than know love. Good post about war, like Kit I agree with its words. Surprised you haven't yet gotten any flames? :)

Joe Boxer: Please tell us the name of your band and its CD, Kit and I want to pick it up at Tower Records to see if you're really as good as SOROW says. :) And you're probably more deserving of the appreciation you got at that Talent Show than N'Sync would be, IMO.

Coyote: You're welcome for the appreciation. Good luck getting the next WCC chapter done soon.

David G: Good luck with Freelance 4 and the upcoming LARP. If you want to change your fanfic saga's continuity, it'd be fine with me. I have no problem with the way things are now, though.

Gargs Personality Test: I'm a mixture of Goliath, Brooklyn, and a small part of Broadway. Mostly the big guy. :)

I guess that's all for now. Looking forward to the premiere of "Ryan Caulfield: Year One" tomorrow night, hope it's true to the realities of police work. And I'll of course also be watching Harsh Realm's second episode. No movie reviews this weekend (nothing's coming out that looks interesting enough to spend time and money on), but next week there will probably be one on the new Nicolas Cage film "Bringing Out the Dead." Hope to soon be reading some feedback (please post it in here with spoilers if you can't reach my e-mail for any reason!) and getting over this depression bout. See y'all later, good night.

**RESUME RP**

"...Shauna, Lathrop, Boris, and Jaden," Gubio finishes. Erin bows to each of them, makes Mist purr contentendly with a tickle under the chin, and then turns back to Gubio. "Thank you," she says. "Pleased to meet you all, I look forward to our being on the same side for a while. We can talk later, right now I believe we have a world to save, right?" "Right," Kit nods, pointing at the Sphinx. "And you're certainly welcome to help us do it. The bad guys are in there!" Erin smiles and then once again dons her headscarf. "Follow me," she says, "Let's do what we can to take care of them." The Ravens nod and follow her in, Doug hanging back to talk with Gubio. "You okay?" he asks the hacker. "Fine," Gubio grins. "I just have never met Erin in person before. I've seen photos and Internet camera tapes of her, but compared to meeting her in person, what with the depth of our relationship, well..." "I getcha," Doug smiles back. "I felt the same way when I first saw Kit. So is your girlfriend a good person? She seems okay so far." "She's great," Gubio replies. "As you saw, she fights better than most, and is pretty nice too. Just watch out, she can talk your ear off if you're not careful. Probably gets it from her claimed ancestor Scherazade." "Hmm," Doug frowns. "Well, as long as she's helping us." Gubio nods in agreement and then follows him into the Sphinx's inner chambers. Behind them, the Avatar forces continue to fight the drones outside the statue. A golden gargoyle statue runs to join the battle on the Avatar's side.

**END RP AND POST**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, October 15, 1999 01:53:45 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-137.dlls.grid.net

Wilek: No, it was factory sealed and unused. If it WAS used, like hell I would touch it without gloves. (HAZMAT! Well, it IS a bio-hazard. How do I know what the woman might have?)

Aris: < personal sexual *habits*>
On that aspect, I tend to agree with you. I REALLY don't want to know about peoples personal sexual habits. An DEFINATELY not in this CR.

Spike: Vampire joke: Ah man! That was BAD! (Hmm... gotta write that one down, though...)

Jenna : comedian: You read my mind! I SO wanted to mention that, but decided against that!
BTW... I miss Stand-up Stand-Up on Comedy Central.

On this whole topic, there is SO much I want to say, but I can't due to the family nature of this room, and due to the fact that I do NOT want to discuss things mentioned in Aris's post.

Warpmind: Well, we ARE humans, so we have short attention spans. Also, this is on-line. Things move fast.

Downloads: I have been downloading winamp.com over the past week... MAN, thats alot of files! I am roughly 55% done and have already downloaded 363 files and 343mb of stuff.

Gargs personality test:
54% lex
16.6% Goliath
16.6% Hudson
12.5% Demona
Hmm... Not bad... I like it!

"<human\\animals> are tasty//pleasing-to-tastebuds"
(From <EATS-ONLY-HEADS>, second in command under <KILLER-OF-ANIMALS:FIRST><BURN|CYCLE>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, October 15, 1999 12:34:56 AM
IP: t2-14.visitus.net

Don't have time to read the CR or make a real post as I'm busy putting together my portfolio for Portfolio day Saturday (I'm going to Houston... Oii...) but I did want to take a moment to say that it was exactly one year ago today that I posted here for the first time, in this color, with this name, and this picture. Boy, a year sure flies don't it?

Robby
Mr. Noying
Friday, October 15, 1999 12:33:31 AM
IP: spider-wm032.proxy.aol.com

***BEGIN RP***
"Let's GO!" SJ shouted. "We've got less than five minutes before that maniac kills my father!"
"That's easier said than done," Wilek replied. He paused to take out a Phalanx drone that had appeared suddenly. "We've only got a few dozen Phalanx to take out before then."
"We've got a bigger problem..." Kari started. She pointed down the corridor ahead of them, where in the shadows 2 red eyes glowed like coals from the fires of hell. A low growl came from the darkness.
"What is THAT?"
With a roar, something huge jumped into the light. It was another Phalanx beast, easily larger than a horse. Unlike the insectoid attacker the group had previously faced, this one was in a by-now familiar shape. It was a minituare version of the Sphinx itself. The beast's human face snarled, showing rows of jagged teeth, and its paws scraped the ground. It looked ready to pounce.
"I sooooo do not have time for this--" SJ began.
"Don't worry," Black Tiger said confidently. He flexed his claws, and placed them together. Energy crackled around them. "I think I can handle this one..."
***END RP***

LOTR news: There's some huge LOTR news. It now appears that actor Stuart Townsend, signed on to play Aragorn, may in fact be out of the picture. He was the choice that the studio was none too sure of, so they may have given him the axe. Rumor also is that actor Viggo Mortenson, star of such films as "A Perfect Murder", "G.I.Jane", and the unnecessary "Psycho" remake, is being offered the role. I can't really say that he's a better choice than Townsend, seeing as I know none of Stuart's work, but I do think Viggo is a competent actor, and I can see him as Strider.

Jon Benet: I gotta bring up this bit of unpleasantness. I don't know how you-all feel on this, who you think is guilty, etc. That's beside the point, anyway. I'm just extremely pissed off that, after 3 years, SOMEBODY killed this girl and is getting away with it. 3 long years of the epitome of BAD policework, and no justice is served. After 30,000 pieces of evidence, 13 months of grand jury investigations, you can't find *anything* pointing to *anyone*? Note to self: if I must kill someone, remember to do it in Boulder.

Wiccan holidays: I'd like to ask a serious question of the Wiccans in the room. I know Halloween is coming up, and it got me thinking...I know little to nothing of the religion. Are there what could be considered "religious holidays" in the particular faith? Please don't be offended by my asking; Halloween was originally supposed to be a "pagan" holiday, I merely wished to know if Wiccans shared some sort of religious day as the Jewish, Muslims, Christian, etc., faiths have.

"Monthly Visitor": Okay, the tide has come down against me. I shall remain against majority opinion in my disgust of that process. But please, spare me the whole "psychological repression" psycho-babble. I have enough problems in my life without trying to psycho-analyze the exact reason why I don't like menstrual periods. I find them gross; I don't really give a damn about the deep-seated reasons for the decision. Christ, now I wish I had just kept my mouth shut in the first place. I can't fit the worms back into the can!
As for who gets the better end of the deal, hormonally...I'm biased, but I say men. On one hand, the ladies get several days of discomfort and possible sickness. We guys are just horny all the time. An unfair trade, if you ask me, but I'm not complaining...;0p

<<Sevarius Jr> Way to go, man! Perpetuating a male stereotype! (Just kidding :) >> Do you mean that in a good or bad connotation? Either way, I'm proud to fulfill that particular stereotype, thank you very much. But I'm so screwed if reincarnation exists; I'm convinced the Powers That Be will make me female based upon the last 2 days worth of comments on the subject ;)
Not that being female is a bad thing. Just wanted to clarify that before I get into *real* trouble ;)

Pistoff: I personally like the Jackie Chan/Chow Yun Fat movies....And I suppose that Hollywood is making some tiny babysteps. John Woo is getting solid work in LA these days, and is very respected. And action movies do seem to be taking liberally from their foreign (in particular, Asian) counterparts (for example, The Matrix). The sad thing? Most folks are too ignorant on the subject of foreign cinema to actually realize that we're stealing all this from non-American movies; they think we (America) are just being innovative.

Oh well, got to hit the pillows. I hope to go see Fight Club tomorrow. There's some good buzz on it, and it looks *very* interesting.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 12:32:29 AM
IP: 207-172-45-34.s34.tnt5.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

HELLO EVERYONE! I think that there is no reason to argue about the whole "monthly friend" bizz. If you think about it, each sex has a weakness in reference to their hormones. For women, it causes them to suffer a couple days out of the month throwing up and walk around with a million cramps. For guys, well... lets just say we have to deal with alot every minute of everyday when comes to hormones. I'm not saying that it equals out everything. No, not at all! My conclusion, though, is that hormones is a part of nature and we just need to learn how to accept it.

SOROW: Hey babe. Hope I helped some on your H.W. But I'm hella tired, so I'm gonna hit the sack.
P.S. don't let Fudge do anything naughty, you might have to start taking some extra pills. j/k :)
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 15, 1999 12:18:43 AM
IP: spider-tf073.proxy.aol.com

*sighs* Still playing catch-up...Hopefully I'll be done tonight. Instead of reading the CR and writing comments, I've been working on the first part of Vinnie's Story. Heh, when I get inspired, you couldn't pull me away from the keyboard with a winch. ;) Anyway...

More self-defense stuff: I usually improvise. My preference is for dirty fighting and using whatever is within reach, mainly because it's just another outlet for creativity. For example...

**VIOLENCE AHEAD**

Pistoff stands next to DC and holds up a No. 2 pencil. "This is a brand-new pencil. Hasn't even been sharpened yet. Looks pretty non-threatening, right? Observe, if you will..."

Pistoff turns and jams the pencil through DC's left eyeball. DC drops dead instantly. Pistoff smiles and bows.

**VIOLENCE OVER**

Warpmind: Thanks for the top ten list. I loved it! <Alien Love Doll? Youse a sicko, mon. Youse a sicko. But I guess we knew that already. (Oh, and I noticed tha auction has ended. Was that any of you guys?)> Heh, thank you! *bows* Actually, I didn't bid on that one. The way my luck in such matters runs, the first time I used the thing, it would spring a leak and deflate. ;) Oh, nice Joyride, too. I could really visualize that one. hehehe...SPLAT!!! :D

Jannie: That guy complaining about kids walking on his grass...what an @$$hole! He reminds me of a guy I heard about when I had my 4 AM paper route. Another driver told me about this--he drove into the guy's driveway to pop the paper into the box, then backed out and went on his way. The customer filed a complaint because the driver...and this is an exact quote, here..."damaged my gravel." :O

BTW, your principal need to pull her head out of her ass. "Grass duty"?! IMO, I think you should tell her to go to hell. If she starts coming down on you, leave her to me. Anything she could do to you would look like a handjob compared to what I can do. *cracks knuckles* And the Joyride would be a good place to start. Heh, you could print it out and leave a copy on her desk before she arrives.... *evil, evil grin*

Zath: Ack! Sorry about your quack dentist. That's one of the reasons I don't bother with dentists (aside from the fact that I can't afford it and I don't have any medical insurance). I have a fairly bad overbite, but at least I never went through the pain of having braces. So my teeth stick out. Big deal. Better that than having these friggin' clamps put on 'em so they could be bent and twisted into shape...uggh! Just thinking about it makes my teeth hurt. Heh, my parents knew better than to even suggest braces... *g*

But...using you as a training dummy for his trainees?? Ye gods! You're right, the son of a bitch should've been paying YOU! The bastard should have his lisence revoked. Hell, somebody should've done a little exploratory surgery on HIM... But at least you didn't hurt yourself in chem lab this time. :) So it's not ALL bad...

Monthly visitor: This freaks guys out? Heh, one afternoon I was talking to the ex-manager while we ate our lunch. She was sitting on the old freezer that had stopped working and had been dumped on its side behind the building. The phone rang and she got up to answer it, and I noticed that she'd left...a splotch where she'd been sitting. At first I was worried, then I remembered seeing a box of Midol sitting on her desk, and put two and two together. Then I shrugged and continued eating. Heh, I guess, after five years of looking at disgusting substances like the bean paste stuff we put on taco pizzas, there isn't much that can gross me out. ;)

SJ: I agree wholeheartedly about Americans' "tunnel vision" regarding foreign cinema. The only foreign films that are truly successful here are the ones starring Jackie Chan and Chow Yun-Fat and have lots of $h!t blowing up and bodies flying around. And if Disney has anything to do with an animated movie, I avoid it completely. Aside from Gargoyles, as far as I'm concerned, Disney animation *looks* great, but otherwise is worthless. I'm just not into the cutesy talking-animals crap. *shrugs*

Zath again: <Or we could put them together in a pro wrestling situation. Add Yeltsin and a few other political heavies from around the world to make it a tag team event, and then all of humanity could throw away their differences to collectively retch at the sight of all those flabby old men in tight spandex. : P> ROTFLMAO!! I'd pay good money to see that. :)

Waking up during surgery: Well, it wasn't as bad as it seems. They were supposedly removing a pilodontal cyst (only they *didn't*, they just lanced it and charged me for the removal...). I woke up and felt them cutting...a nurse saw that I was in distress and made the mistake of letting me hold her hand. I put her under the table. ;) Later, I found out that they in fact *hadn't* removed the cyst, only lanced it...but then my family filed for bankruptcy and the bastards didn't get their money anyway. :D As for suing them...takes too much time and expense, and I have better ways to get even with people. :)

Oh, BTW, the doctor who operated on me that night is dead now. I'm not kidding. One day he was skiing and slammed into a tree at maximum speed and basically pulped himself. Heh, saved me the bother of doing it myself. :D

Wilek: Heh, Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich in the tractor pulls. I like that. :)

Long stories: Heh...well, "Truce" was almost 500K, if I remember correctly. It wouldn't even upload into the archive until I'd spit it into three parts. :O

SJ again: <If they're counting j/o, you're in trouble, I'm in trouble, as are most men on the planet....wait...men live statistically shorter than women, right? Hmmm, this theory is beginning to make sense...> You're starting to scare me, dude... ;)

Spike: O_O I love that joke!! ROTFL!

Coyote: *returns hug* We're all glad to help in any way we can, bud. :)

Warpmind again: Yikes! Sorry about the housing situation. :( Good luck finding a new place. And you're almost immune to painkillers?? Ye gods! Maybe you could try a dose of NyQuil. As Denis Leary once said, "You gotta love any medicine that comes with its own shot glass." :)

Jessie: Your dentist named his drill "Bob"? Heh, that reminds me of a math teacher I had once. He had named the overhead projector "Oscar." O_o

Spacebabie: <Ok Pissy your turn for DC tourtutre or Death.> Heh, already taken care of. MUAHAHAHAHA!!! :)

David G: I can understand the problems with keeping your series "in synch" with TGS. I briefly considered doing that with G2K when I was writing the first story...then I decided not to. It places too many limits on the writer. Breaking away from the TGS continuity would probably open a lot of story possibilities. I hadn't even planned to use any TGS characters, but Denis has some nifty ways to use them...but, though we're using TGS characters and bits of the TGS background to help ground the stories, our stuff is entirely different. Really enables us to do just about anything, story-wise. :)

Gunjack: Well, I haven't looked into whether it's illegal for the company to forbid us from carrying weapons. But in my case, it's a moot point, since I'm armed anyway. And even if I weren't armed, I could use just about anything else within reach. Heh, just ask DC... *g*

"Well, Jesus, of course I take a global view of the world. It's a f--king globe, isn't it?" ---author John Shirley, responding to a reporter's comment

Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Oh my god, I'm actually caught up!! 8O
Friday, October 15, 1999 12:12:44 AM
IP: wire-8.koalas.com

Warpmind> Gargs personality test> Heh...apparently I'm 1 part Lex, two parts Goliath (questions 3 and 7, disturbingly enough), one part Brooklyn, three parts Hudson, one part Angela. O_o I sound like an experiment gone horribly wrong. Which, come to think of it, would explain a great deal. <<The landlord has sold the house I live in. Now I have a month to find a new place to live before the family that bought the place moves in.>> :O Oh no!!! The best of luck finding a new (and hopefully permanent) home, friend, and if you'd like a few creative ways to kill your landlord, I'd be more than happy to contribute. <<One moment we're talking about WWII, Hiroshima and Holocaust, and the next we're talking about bodily functions? Maybe we ARE the Last Bastion of Group Insanity?>> <L> Like there was any doubt? :P

SJ> <<I'm so totally grossed out by that. Okay? Is that so hard to believe?>> Trust me, friend, it isn't. <shudder>

Jenna> <<Dracula-- like Bram Stoker's the best.>> Me too, although Dead And Loving It is kewl as well. :) Bram Stoker's original novel was done in an interesting format--it was mostly journal entries and newspaper excerpts. Had sort of a turn-of-the-century Blair Witch Project feel about it. Too bad the archaic language made my head hurt after a while...Hey, speaking of vampires, wasn't there a vampire mystery novel featuring Sherlock Holmes? I thought I encountered one in the library once (the book, not a vampire)...

<moment of silence for Wilt Chamberlain>

Aaron> <<But my favorite response is: "I'm a capricorn. We don't believe in astrology.">> LOL! Quite honestly, neither do I. Although it is interesting. :)

David G> <<I may decide to shift the Freelance Saga to a totally different continuity where I make all the rules. This would make my life vastly simpler, and would let me use mainstream Gargoyles characters with more impunity. On the other hand, I might end up alienating my fic universe from my source material even more than I already have.>> I was in the exact same predicament once. I highly recommend building your own ficverse instead of using TGS's. You can do anything you want, and you don't have to worry about what those psychotics on the staff are planning. (That was meant as a complement, kids. <G>) As for alienating your fics from the source material...<LOL> Mine have strayed so far that the only thing they have in common with TGS is the fact that they contain some of the same characters and artifacts. Something I have planned for my fics' third season will make it official, with all the subtlety of a brick through a window, that my ficverse isn't Gargoyles anymore, it's something else. I wouldn't worry. 8)

Spacebabie> Kewl test. ^_^ Let's see...<takes test> <<I don't think about the opposite sex, I have better things to do!>> Oh, that is too perfect...

Zath> <<I don't think I could prove he was the reason my roots are so short (one well placed smack in the face and I'll lose all my front teeth). : ( >> His punishment in Hell will be to have his teeth extracted by rabid lobsters. <brandishes a crystal scimitar> I'm half inclined to send him there myself...<<a teacher I had in 9th grade. She'd send boys down to the nurse to get tampons for her : P She did all sorts of other weird things too. (she was also the one who had to deal with that guy I mentioned who got a little too friendly with himself in class, and strangely enough, my friends who had class that hour said she either didn't notice or didn't care. There are also rumors of her not noticing/ignoring someone doing lines in the back of the room the year before my friends and I had her.) Strange, strange woman>> 8O Oh ye godz...did the principal ever find out? <sigh> Typical academic administrative idiocy. This kind of thing is why public schools should be closed and used as armories. Dentist song> LOL! And so true! (I'm sure that most dentists, if they hadn't become dentists, would be in prison or mental wards by now.) <<not to mention I have a deathly fear of needles>> You too? I'm almost certain they were invented somewhere in the seventh ring of Hell.

Personality tests> My name link contains the Trio personality test I mentioned before. <takes it> Apparently I'm 38 percent Lex, 32 percent Broadway, and 30 percent Brooklyn... (Heh, if these ppl knew about my second fic, I'd be on the wrong end of a jyhad in five seconds...)
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:19:17 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

speaking of Monoke> I don't think any of the cities listed were Florida ones, HELLO! DISNEY IS HEADQUARTERED DOWN HERE YOU BASTICHES!!!!!
shogun raptor
Thursday, October 14, 1999 09:44:37 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

Gargoyle Eye Candy for you guys. It's the T-shirts!
http://members.aol.com/camaro532/gargoyles1.jpg
check them out!
draconis - [Gathering2k@nycmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 09:44:18 PM
IP: 179-35.kua.net

*begin RP* As the seven enter the circle of ruins, on the trail of the traitorous Blackwing, the sand around them erupts and like some demonic phalax-ified tree, blackwing rises from the sands, phalanx tendrils flailing, faster than the eye can see, Abel has cast off his shroud revealing for the first time his mewtwo-like lower body, Doc's wings begin glowing as they gather light for a solarbeam attack, Abel summons his cerberus force, fenrir, summons up a pair of frost giants, Flypside pulls forth a stealth cow launcher from his chamberpot o' plenty and Shogun generates a pair of razor-edged energy katanas, Abel signals his cerberus force and the three pokefusions attack for all their worth, suddenly a tentacle rises up and sends them flying off toward the valley of the kings
"SCYYYYY!"
"FORMEONNNNN"
"KABUUUU"
Shogun looks at Abel "What'd they say?"
" I don't know, something out knowing what team rocket goes through"
"well, enough of this, time to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"
as of on cue, largo, shogun's octoraptor bursts onto the scene, latches on to blackwing and is flung in the same direction as the cerberus force
Shogun's eyes glow
"NO ONE SENDS THE SEVENS PETS FLYING!!!! CHARRRRGE!"
*will the seven be able to defeat the villainous blackwing?, and what of the far-flung pets? and will the Ronin warrior's little friend Yuli ever stop being so smegging annoying?, tune in to our next episode to find out.. YOU EXPECTED SPOILERS HERE? YOU FOOLS YOU!*

The monthly visitor> I don't know if this was mentioned, but the other part of that south park joke was that the montly visitor was named "aunt flo" (flow)

and now, inspired by episode one and the "star warped" gene splicer.. THE EPISODE ONE GENE SPLICER

take the force mastery of Qui-gon Jinn, and the "awww" factor of Anakin skywalker and you get....
Ricky martin, the only guy who can invoke the mind trick with his pelvis
Take the ominous presence of Darth Sidious, and the height and abrasiveness of Watto and you get: Mini-me
combine the ruthlessness of Nute Gunray, and the outlandish headpieces of Queen Amidala and you get: Don King
Take the political presence of Senator Palapatine, and the nonsensical babbling of Jar jar and you get: Pat Buchanan
Take Amidala's bizarre looks and the sportsmanlike conduct of Sebulba and you get: Dennis Rodman

Grass patrol> Yeesh! administrators, do any of them have brains or backbones?
shogun raptor
Thursday, October 14, 1999 09:42:20 PM
IP: mia1-wc1.atlas.digex.net

Warpmind> <<Weird, I expected to get a few comments on my "drop the subject" pun about the bomb..>> I had been hoping that it was unintentional ; ) <<"May you be eternally doomed to the Island of the Clumsy Dentist's Assistants!">> I think I already have been. <<Maybe we ARE the Last Bastion of Group Insanity?>> Or are we the first? : )

Wilek> <<if all this has done more harm than good, there has to be some way to get back all the fees you wasted on this idiot. >> Mostly it was just pain and suffering, and I don't think I could prove he was the reason my roots are so short (one well placed smack in the face and I'll lose all my front teeth). : (

jenna> <<My hubby, when he was a kid, his mom and sisters would send him to the store to get them, well, tampons and such.>> That reminds me of a teacher I had in 9th grade. She'd send boys down to the nurse to get tampons for her : P She did all sorts of other weird things too. (she was also the one who had to deal with that guy I mentioned who got a little too friendly with himself in class, and strangely enough, my friends who had class that hour said she either didn't notice or didn't care. There are also rumors of her not noticing/ignoring someone doing lines in the back of the room the year before my friends and I had her.) Strange, strange woman…

Gunjack> <<"Hunchback" had the animated statues (I refuse to call them gargoyles) and the goat>> I think the book had a trained goat too. <<Just woke up today from a sweet little combo of live action, anime, and manga>> I guess it all depends on how you feel about dragons. **Someone, probably one of Zath's roommates, mutters, "It's always the quiet ones..." Zath sics Kitty on them and then returns to replies >: )** <<Now, if I could only remember how that song went.... >> I found the lyrics on http://home.rochester.rr.com/dietch/lyrics/dentist.txt

When I was younger, just a bad little kid
My mama noticed funny things I did
Like shooting puppies with a BB gun
I'd poison guppies, and when I was done
I'd find a pussycat and bash in its head
That's when my mama said - (what did she say?)
She said "My boy I think someday - you'll find a way
To make your natural tendencies pay.

You'll be a dentist - you have a talent for causing things pain
Son, be a dentist - people will pay you to be inhumane
Your temperament's wrong for the priesthood
And teaching would suit you still less
Son, be a dentist - you'll be a success"

Here he is, girls, the leader of the plaque
Watch him suck up that gas, Oh my god!
He's a dentist and he'll never ever be any good
Who want's their teeth done by the Marquis de Sade
Oh that hurts! - I'm not numb!
Oh shut up, open wide, here I come!

I am your dentist (goodness gracious!)
And I enjoy the career that I picked
I am your dentist (fitting braces)
And I get off on the pain I inflict.
When I start extracting those molars
You girls'll be screaming like holy rollers
(Dentist...) And though it may cause my patients distress,
Somewhere, somewhere in heaven above me
I know, I know that my mama's proud of me
'Cause I'm a dentist, and a success.

Say "ah!" (Ah!) Now spit!

Now if only I could find a good midi file of it...

SOROW> <<If it really could stop cycles for months on end... every woman who took it would die.>> Not necessairly, if that was true, women would die when they entered menopause. However, I'd imagine that shot would possible throw the hormones all out of whack and increase risks of osteoporosis and such, though I'd have to research it to be sure. I think I'll just stick with the monthly hassel (not to mention I have a deathly fear of needles).

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 09:41:16 PM
IP: ppp-225-057.usc.edu

Damn it! Look what I started! I'm soooo sorry for bringing this up. If it turns into a flame war, you can blame it all on me! I did get those pills today and I sure hope they work. No, I'm not using them for pregnancy reasons so don't stone me. j/k :)

Fire Storm> Wise words. Thanks for enlightening the guys. ;)

SJ> It's OK, I'm sorry I started the discussion. As far as the shot? If it really could stop cycles for months on end... every woman who took it would die. Sadly enough, we go through all this crap for reasons to live.

Zath> Thanks for looking out for me! The rare cases of having to go to hospitals is probably due to an allergic reaction or overdose.

Wilek> Feel lucky now, right? Heheheh...

Coyote> Amen.

Joe Boxer> Awwwww, I love you too. And as far as having to be around me during PMS... (in a Cartman impression) "Ay! Screw you guys, I'm going hoooome." :)

Gargs personality test> I'm Brooklyn with a tad of Lex. Figures why I like them so much.

Off to do homework and what not. OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Thursday, October 14, 1999 08:21:58 PM
IP: dll2b105-17.splitrock.net

Tee-hee surfing the net I discovered this
http://www.tgzondar.com/jess/
Click on the stuff to do.. oh and the URL is in my handle
This personality test is for Anime lovers
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:27:02 PM
IP: ts001d43.orl-fl.concentric.net

*Valentine strides in and heads immediatly for his desk, humming the tune to "Sweet Dreams" under his breath*
Heh... It turns out I'm half Goliath, and half Brooklynn... It don't get much better than that...

Man, it seems that every time I turn around, there's a bunch of people in here that I've never heard of... But that's a good thing! Greetings to Joe Boxer; glad to have ya here!

*Valentine jacks in, and absorbs the last night's posts*

Gratz to spike on becomin' an aunt...:) Lucky devils, all of ya! Also, my sympathy to Coyote... Hang in there, bro... we'll be praying for you...:(

Kit><<"Most problems can be solved by negotiation, but it often costs too much and takes too long, especially when the other person does not want to cooperate with or care about you. That's when violence is necessary, to solve the problems negotiation cannot. Therefore the world needs to have both people like you, who are good at negotiating and put all their faith in it, and people like me, who are standing by ready to fight just in case.>> You've hit the nail on the head, and you did it far more eloquintly than I could, even if it was just a quote. Thanks! << Besides, sex can be one of the most enjoyable things in life, and I wouldn't stop having it just to get a few more years in this messed-up world.>> I had an arguement with a friend a bit back, where I asked him if he would make a deal where he could live for a thousand years, but never have love. His awnser was yes.

I think he's crazy.

Psycho Dentists - why does this conversation remind me of the Steve Martin character in "little shop of horrors"? Now, if I could only remember how that song went....

SJ><<Princess Mononoke: As far as I know, Miramax is the one distributing this film. I hope to God Disney isn't, cause you know they'd just screw things up. They don't know how to handle a "real" cartoon. No offense, but I consider Mononoke LIGHTYEARS better than anything Disney can produce (Gargoyles excluded, naturally ;)>> Naturally! Actually, I thought that they were starting to do better about cutting down on the cutsie content... "Hunchback" had the animated statues (I refuse to call them gargoyles) and the goat, but it did pretty well IMO on being a serious flick... especially the way they killed Frollo...
I'd like to see the Mouse bring in a good team, and then just cut them loose without all the red tape and restrictions... Something "Gargoyles" quality might just come out!

Pisstoff><<Self-defense: I've talked about this before. People who deliver pizzas are murdered on the job quite frequently. Just for a pizza and twenty bucks. So you're damned right, I'm ready to kill any motherf--ker who takes a shot at me. It's really scary, to have that kind of mindset (it's what you'd expect from a soldier or gang member, not a guy with a minimum-wage job), but on this job, you never know when you might get a delivery that's a set-up. And the company rules forbid the drivers to carry so much as a pocket knife>> Umm, I might be wrong, but I believe that forbiding you from carrying legal weapons while delivering is illegal... If I'm not mistaken, you can actually sue them if they try to hold you to that... 'Course I could be wrong, but it bears looking into...<< I agree with you about hospitals, too. Those places are no fun at all. Last time I was a patient in one, I was having surgery...and the anesthetic wore off halfway through the operation, and they wondered why I tried to scoot off the operating table... O_o >> *Blinks* Did I just read that right? THE ANASTISIA WORE OFF?!!?!?! My word, that must have been HELL! And you didn't sue the bums?!?!? Add a nice malpractice suit to the suit above, and you might never have to work again!

Zath><<Or we could put them together in a pro wrestling situation. Add Yeltsin and a few other political heavies from around the world to make it a tag team event, and then all of humanity could throw away their differences to collectively retch at the sight of all those flabby old men in tight spandex. : P>> YES! I can see it now! *looks speculative* I wonder if the guys who run MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch need any suggestions...:)

Wilek><<Wow...I hope you continue to have such dreams (and wish I could have them; is it something one can learn?). :)>> No clue, but I'm praying that they hold out... Just woke up today from a sweet little combo of live action, anime, and manga... cyborgs, andriod double assasins, giant mutant bugs, a HUGE robot, lots of corperate warfare and nueral hacking, plus other good stuff... I've been writing them down whenever I've had them, and I'm just hoping that whatever the Illuminatia has been spiking our water with, they keep it up! <<I'm kind of in the same position--I've got the (*very*) basic (read: skeletal) timeline of my own ficverse planned out from a few thousand years ago to what might be the end of the world, and it's *awfully* hard to work out the details sometimes. :)>> Tell me about it...:P I've got in excess of thirty L-O-N-G fics in the works, and the first one still isn't STARTED! Of course, it would help to figure out which one I'm going to start with...

Warpmind><<And there was an excellent curse mentioned in "Monkey Island 3: The Curse of Monkey Island"; "May you be eternally doomed to the Island of the Clumsy Dentist's Assistants!" Just be careful... I know how to cast that curse.>> This reminds me of the curse from "big trouble in little china"..."May you be damned to the Hell of the Horny Dragon!" I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty unpleasent to me...

Spike - *Valentine curiously reads the posted joke* Ohhhh, I should have seen that comeing! *begins repeatedly slamming his head into his desk* Bad joke! Naughty joke! That joke goes to bed without supper!

It was funny as heck, though...*Stops slamming his head on the desk, and listens instead to the musical tinkle of the room's PG-13 rating desintigrating* Oh, and grats on the

SJ><<That's a pretty cynical view. Yes, we could always remain half-angels and half-@$$holes (or mostly a-holes and few angels, depending on your p.o.v.), but I'd like to be the optimist and think that will change (please don't tell me I'm not being "realistic", that's an argument I've heard too often, with varying degrees of sarcasm and scorn)>> Cynical? How is it cynical? Machavelian, maybe, but not cynical...
I prefer to think of it as pragmatism, probably because I don't veiw conflict as an absolute evil. And no, I don't think you're being unrealistic, I just think we have differant opinions as to the makeup of the human soul. Personally, I don't think that conflict is something that should be permanently destroyed. Armed confrontation simply too effective a tool for change for it to be permanently discarded.
For those that mourn at the thought of hundreds of thousands of lives being ended (ie: any sane human), there is hope. Currently, low-intensity warfare is the order of the day, meaning that in the future, you will be able to count the casualties of a major fight in the tens and hundreds, rather than the ten thousands and hundred thousands. That, I believe, is a good thing.

Unfortunately, LI warfare is even more "unfair" than Total War, and people tend to object vigorously when their government engages in it. As an example, most of America supported the dicision to go to war with Iraq, but how many people would support the government if it was discovered that, in order to prevent that conflict, some of our specops boys had assasinated a good chunk of the Iraqi high command? Thousands of deaths would have been avoided, but it still would probably be cast as another example of the evils of America.

*Valentine stretches in his chair, and checks his watch*

Heh... once more, it's three o'clock and I haven't started school yet... Looks like I'd better get cracking!

C yas later...
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Dallas, TX
Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:26:42 PM
IP: 205.165.166.136

Hi everybody.
God, I've been so busy lately that I've barely read half the comments in the room for like two weeks now. Maybe in November I'll start really being able to get involved again. The LARP will be over by then.
Of course, as soon as the LARP's over, I have six other projects waiting to rise up like the heads of a literary hydra (a monster made of words, if any of you happen to be N. Scott Momaday fans). One of those is Episode 4 of Freelance, which is actually about half done now, but I haven't had time to work on it lately.
I'm also thinking about changing the rules I set myself for Continuity. I started Freelance as a sort of spin-off of TGS, but I keep running into problems with things the TGS staff knows, but I don't.

(If one or more members of the staff want to funnel me inside information, I'm cool with it, and I promise not to reveal anything plot related beforehand, honest, you can trust me... Actually, I really wouldn't deliberately give away secrets, but I might end up foreshadowing things unintentionally, so I'm not sure how good an idea it would be to tell me anything.)

Oh my, the side comments are getting longer than the post here. Back to the topic at hand, I may decide to shift the Freelance Saga to a totally different continuity where I make all the rules. This would make my life vastly simpler, and would let me use mainstream Gargoyles characters with more impunity. On the other hand, I might end up alienating my fic universe from my source material even more than I already have.

Oh well, I'm too tired to think about this right now. I'd better get back to work. I do want you all to know you're in my prayers, even if I don't have time to say it individually. If it helps any of you to know that I care about you, then I'm glad to tell you so.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:26:34 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Glad to see so many of you took the test already...

Does anyone else find it disturbing that we change subjects so easily? One moment we're talking about WWII, Hiroshima and Holocaust, and the next we're talking about bodily functions? Maybe we ARE the Last Bastion of Group Insanity?

*Hugs Jenna.* Thanks, I needed that.

Pistoff: Dud anaesthetics? Ouch (indeed). Reminds me of when I'm at the dentist's. From my paternal side, I seem to have inherited a set of genes that make me highly resistant to any form of medical chemicals. In other words, I'm almost immune to painkillers. Last time I went to the dentist, she (yes, she! Fine lookin' woman with delicate hands) gave me a full syringe, and I still felt her probe around in my bad tooth. Another half a syringe, and I decided that the feeling of the needle going in and out of my mouth all the time was more annoying than the other tools... as a result, I'm likely to give up on anaesthetics at the dentist's. I'm becoming too good at meditation to care about physical agony like that anyway. Heh, you know... if it works, why fix it? I recommend meditative techniques to ANYone going to the dentist. It's actually far more comfortable than the syringe that's curling its way between the roots of your teeth...

**DC DEATH**
Warpmind hunts down DC, eyes glowing a dangerous red.
"DC, you lowly worm, now you've kept me from updating my homepage for a LONG time, ain't it about time you backed off?"
DC wards off the first blow.
"No, no, that wasn't me, that was CD!"
Warpmind halts and looks puzzled at DC.
"Really? Oh, well, then, sorry I almost hit you."
DC relaxes a bit.
"But I'm not sorry for this!"
Warpmind then pulls what looks like a small flashlight out of his pocket and points it at DC. The flashlight flares up with a red glare, and a small rocket blasts out, picking up DC and carrying him through space and time to somewhere in Mongolia, a few centuries back. An imposing man on a horse spots DC at once and swiftly decapitates him with a swing of an axe. Repeatedly.
"Okay, then, time to look for CD..."
Warpmind pulls up what seems to be a 500 horsepower vibrator-mounted-on-a-chainsaw-engine.
"Heeeereeee, CD, CD, CD, CD, heeereee, CD, CD, CD, CD..."
**DC DEATH END**

Well, as sick as that might seem to some of you, I can assure you, I intend to finish, as soon as I can get a fix on CD's location...

Later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 14, 1999 03:53:40 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*Smiles looking at the results of the Garg Personality test.* Gee, I'm split between Lex and Hudson with a little bit of Goliath, Brooklyn, Demona, and Angela thrown in. Maybe the test needs a few more questions to break ties.

Zath>It was Merlin in the Dark Ages ep. He admitted it when he met the clan in New York and they remembered him. And I can't remember what the name of that ep. is.

*Pulls a computer disk out of the pouch on her belt.* Now, I'm going to be a good little fanfic author and go finish working on my latest projects. It involves research which is why I've put it off so long. But hopefully my fanfic "The Party" will be up in the next couple of weeks.
Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 03:45:50 PM
IP: 204.196.35.93

WArp--about your land lord situatuion. Man, hang in there...


jenna
Thursday, October 14, 1999 02:03:18 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

First of all I'm pissed that not one single city in Florida will be showing Mononoke and I'm not fklying to Atlanta just to see a movie.

Warpmind>I took the test I can be considered Lexington and Angela's love child.

The Monthly visitor talk>Oh my LOL thats what I use to get my brother out of my face. just talk about it and he is like "I'm out of here" Its amazing what we women can use as weapons.

Whoo-hoo! I don't know about you but our local WB is airing "Awakenings" this Saturday

Leaves a decaptiated DC with knives sticking out of every direction behind. Snarls when DC regenerats his head.

Ok Pissy your turn for DC tourtutre or Death.
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Thursday, October 14, 1999 01:58:53 PM
IP: ts001d43.orl-fl.concentric.net

Vampire Books: Hmm... there's some great stuff out there.
Steven Brust: Aygar
Barbara Hambley: Those Who Hunt the Night
Laurell Hamilton: the Anita Blake series (vampires and werewolves and zombies, oh my!)
Laura Lael Miller: Forever and the Night; For All Eternity
Kim Newman: Anno Dracula; The Bloody Red Baron (If you're into alternate history books, you'll like these!)
Fred Saberhagen: The Holmes-Dracula File, An Old Friend of the Family (several books all written from Dracula's POV. -- delightful dry sense of humor)
Lucius Shepherd: The Golden
F. Paul Wilson: The Keep (sleep with the lights on!)
Robert Zelany: A Night in the Lonesome October
Spike
Thursday, October 14, 1999 01:57:01 PM
IP: pppt01-200.ght.iadfw.net

Warpmind > <<When entering the office and the dentist directs you to the chair, say "Yeah, yeah, I know the drill." And see if he gets the joke>> I--for some reason--found that absolutely hilarious. Posting from a lab, and everyone looked at me funny when I couldn't stop laughing. My dentist, when I was a little kid, had names for all his equipment. I think the drill was "Bob."

MONONOKE openings > Dang, well, it opens in Minneapolis on my birthday (Nov. 5)...but it's a three hour drive, and I know my car can't make it. Maybe I can swaggle a ride as a B-day present from one of my friends.

Christine > Sent you an email, but just to let you know, I don't mind if you post it. ;)
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 01:14:38 PM
IP: ctrpc02.mrs.umn.edu

Vampires > I think my personal faves for bloodsucker flicks would be The Lost Boys, Innocent Blood (one of the best erotic scenes I've ever beheld in that one, wow!), and good old Fright Night with Peter Vincent the Great Vampire Killer. Book-wise, I must recommend They Thirst, by Robert McCammon.

Monthly Visitor > nah, not particularly Freudian; that particular bit of male squeamishness goes back to the dawn of the species. Actually, Mr. Garrison had it right ... the fact that women could bleed without injury just freaked the hell out of early man. (I was gonna say something here about guy-hypocrisy, but deleted it for the sake of the tender young eyes in the room).

Lion King > ah, this takes me back to my very first ever fanfic, back when I had no idea there were other nuts like me out there ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:44:31 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Okay, I see there's been a few comments since I checked last... here goes... something.

Spike: That joke is old, it's even an oldie in Norway. But, it's still good. Hmmm... maybe, to even things out, we should pressure Christine into telling her hand lotion joke in here...

Female hygienic articles: I'm a guy, and I don't freak out about'em. They're linked to a natural bodily function (for which I am truly happy to be male), just like, say, for instance toilet paper. You use it, you dispose of it properly, you leave it at that. However, I'll admit that I find it slightly discomforting to talk openly about. Oh, and Coyote? In South Park, that sentence is a joke from the creators' side. It is not meant from their side as sexist. As for Mr. Garrison himself, well, in one of the early episodes, Cartman's pig gave birth to a piglet with a striking resemblance to Mr. Garrison... I rest my case. As for Aaron: Maybe we men don't suffer directly from menstruation, but a lot of men I've known have been known to suffer greatly from its companion, namely PMS. And that, my friend, is not to be taken lightly, believe you me.

Garg Personality Test: Turns out I'm half Lexington... and one eighth of Goliath, Brooklyn, Hudson and Angela. But I refuse to reveal which character traits are the ones in question. :)

Dentists: I forgot this last message: When entering the office and the dentist directs you to the chair, say "Yeah, yeah, I know the drill." And see if he gets the joke.

Housing: The landlord has sold the house I live in. Now I have a month to find a new place to live before the family that bought the place moves in. Urghhh... This week has been a living piece of Hell.

Short Story: Almost done, and when it is done and mailed, I'll start translating it, so that you guys may understand it too, should you for some obscure reason choose to read it.

Well, can't think of anything else at the moment, so you guys just stick around, eh?

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:37:17 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Coyote _*L* ^_^

Aaron- laughed at your little beseaching the Y chromosome..LOL

Well took the test-- came back as a even mix of Goliath and Angela with a drop of Brooklyn--
jenna
Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:06:20 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Ah, thank you y chromasome for all of the things you protect me from... Menstruation, high heels, really uncomfortable underwear...

Bram Stoker's Dracula? The one with (Bogus surfer accent) "I will go to the castle of Count Dracula." That line ranks right up there with "Yonda lies da castle of my foddah."

Pistoff> The anesthetic wore off?!? WTF?!? I hope you sued their sorry @$$.

Wilek> Curses, why do all of the best scenes always get cut? Like the kiss in NIMH... And somewhere I have a profile of capricorns I could send you. But my favorite response is: "I'm a capricorn. We don't believe in astrology."

Spike> Geez, that reminds me of a line from The Rockey Horror Picture Show, the part where Frank walks out after killing Eddie and takes off his bloody gloves.

1st voice: "What do you do with bloody rubbers?"
2nd voice: "Turn 'em inside out and use 'em again!"
3rd voice: "No! Give 'em to Magenta! She'll make tea!"

Bad news on the Mononoke front. Click my name for a list of release times and dates. Only four cities on opening day. And it won't be released here. (Big surprise)

Gargs personality test> I came back as Demona, with a smattering of Brooklyn. (Another big surprise, right?)

Later.

Aaron wanders off, singing "The End" by The Doors.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:51:15 AM
IP: ppp-147.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Jenna: **stands up and applauds**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:26:40 AM
IP: modem1.i-is.com

Okay, now that I'm a bit more conscious, lemme try to make some more replies.

Doug: WCC Team Delta, I am *hoping*, will see the light of day sometime next week. Things have been hectic around here and have left me little to no time to work on it. But I'm gonna get it out!!

**moment of silence for Wilt Chamberlain**



Deuce: **sniff** Beautiful poem. Thanks.

Joe Boxer: Welcome to the den of insanity. SOROW's told us much about you (don't worry, it's all good. :)

Heather: **raises eyebrow** I'll bet you've been waiting a while for that. :)

Mandolin: I'll be sure to remember that, my friend. I know you will ... anyone brave enough to take my suggestion to dress up in a Rosanna costume is *definitely* someone I can lean on. :) **hugs**

That goes to everyone ... Fleur, Jannie, Jenna, Aaron, Stephen, Kitainia, Warpmind, SJ, Pissy, Jaden, Fire Storm ... I hope I covered everyone ... you guys have made this wasteland of loneliness I've been thrust into just a bit more liveable with. Thank you all. **BIG group hug**
(Oh, and FS ... yeah, I'll take ye up on that meeting if the store ever quite firing people. :)

Spacebabie: Despite any orientation of his voice actor (Andy Dick), Nuka wasn't gay ... just nuts. :)

Spike: **groans on floor** Sick ... and funnier than hell!

Which brings me to ...
the recent "Monthly Visitor" discussion: Okay, myself having grown up with two women raising me ... I don't have a problem with that kind of stuff at all. Call me crazy, but what the hell is the problem guys seem to have with it? I just don't get it ... once ye marry ... and even beforehand, if you're *that* close ... you gotta deal with it on a monthly basis by proxy anyway, so what's the big deal?
To be quite frank, there was only one point in the "South Park" movie that really made me cringe ... Mr. Garrison has a line when he says "I don't trust anything that bleeds for four days and doesn't die." That's the kind of attitude that I don't understand. So *what* if it's more than blood? It has to be if it's gonna serve its purpose.
**sigh** Ah well, I just don't get it. I'll leave it at that.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:24:07 AM
IP: modem1.i-is.com

Well, I'm doing a very affectionate laughing at most of the guys here- no offense my dears, but there are few things more entertaining than watching you all squirm when THIS topic is brought up. (ie what Firestorm brought up) It reminds me of the time in my highschool health class they showed a film of a woman giving birth. All of the guys in the class began writhing in discomfort, and then after the film, the teacher said one thing. (she was a lady)

"And you thought we were the weaker sex!"

:P

But seriously, I can see why some guys find this topic distasteful. It isn't so much fear as how it is taught to men when when there boys. When something is talked about in whispers only, if then, then is becomes taboo, bad, disgusting. Openly explaing the biological reproductive systems of both men and women would probally be a more productive way to handle it.

So when guys freak out over this, I don't see it as a personal attack on women. (and yes for anyone who doesn't know I am a female) I see it being more legitimately uncomfortable. We all have things that are personal taboos, or make us uneasy. As this is usually one for all men, I don't take offense.

My hubby, when he was a kid, his mom and sisters would send him to the store to get them, well, tampons and such. At first he was so embarrassed, but then he heard one comedian say, that when your wife sends you to get tampons, and your standing in line at the check out stand, and everyone is looking at you. Dont be embarrassed, hey at least everyone knows you GOT a woman! *L*

If that made anyone uncomfortable, I humbly aplogize. :P

Dracula-- like Bram Stoker's the best. I've watched alot of vampire movies, and I like this the best. REally caputres the feel of the book, and I liked the way it showed Mina as the avatar to the princess that had died.

Servarus Jr and Robby-- thanks for the info in the ElfQuest movie. Stilll, call me a skeptic but as it's been in the works for over 10 years, I won't be holding my breath. My hubby has been part of elfquest fandom from the getgo, and well, we have heard for years and years that there will be a film- oh well.

I must say I am kind of disillusioned with Pini and Elfquest. I may eventually say why later, but a lot of it deals with stuff that a lot of people don't see or know. Behind the scene stuff at conventions. A lot of stuff I don't know if people could handle if they knew about..

Let's just say I have a lot more respect for Greg-

Servuis Jr- thanks for the info on Princess Mononoke. I hope your right that disney wont be releasing it. They got there hands in everything as it is...

Pist off ^_^ hugs back to you.
jenna
Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:21:59 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Heh.... I'm reminded of a joke...


Three vampires walk into a bar. The bartender asks, "What'll you have?"

First vampire says, "I'll have a bloody Mary, please."

Second one says, "Make mine a Bloody Caesar."

The third vampire says, "I'll just have a cup of hot water."

The first vampire, surprised, asks, "Hot water? Whatever for?"

The third vampire replies as he takes out a used tampax, "To make a cup of tea."

Spike
Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:07:20 AM
IP: ppp07-6.ght.iadfw.net

Sevarius Jr> Way to go, man! Perpetuating a male stereotype! (Just kidding :)

Seriously now, though male I'm not at all creeped out about this... I have heard a number of other things here that have disturbed me - that made me go into flamewars as everyone can remember. But in general a biological *fact* wouldn't creep me out nor would I find its discussion distasteful (atleast the examples I can think about). On the other hand I have often found the mention of personal sexual *habits* (rather than biological facts) far more distasteful (such as the masturbation mentions by Pistoff and other for example)... But that's just me I guess...
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 09:15:49 AM
IP: danae.di.uoa.gr

Fire Storm: You have sufficiently creeped me out beyond belief...to be a man and not be disturbed by *that*...

It's not some sort of Freudian thing (although Freud really was all about sex...)...it's just that I'm so totally grossed out by that. Okay? Is that so hard to believe? It's would be okay if it was just blood. BUT IT AIN'T. It's...other stuff...besides blood. Biological waste and all that. Maybe I'm not "macho" like you. I don't find anything beautiful or fascinating about that process. If getting totally grossed out by bleeding from the groin area makes me a pu$$y, than that's what I am.

SOROW: I thought they had a shot now that sort of ends the cycle for months on end. Is this not available to you? It would sure seem easier than taking the pills. Of course, I think there's supposedly some side effects to the shot. Or is all this on the Q-T?

Pistoff: If they're counting j/o, you're in trouble, I'm in trouble, as are most men on the planet....wait...men live statistically shorter than women, right? Hmmm, this theory is beginning to make sense...
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 08:52:23 AM
IP: field-house-09.labs.gmu.edu

Yea, and get this. A full set of braces, all around the mouth. Oyy...
"Scar wanting to give little scars to Nala"> I got an idea of what you're talking about but sine this is a PG-rated Comment room...I won't be that blunt.

Robby > **hugs him** Look, I'm sorry about last night.I really am. **looks at him** You forgive me ? **looks hopeful** I'm sorry... I'm sorry...
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 06:52:09 AM
IP: 98cef05a.ipt.aol.com

Okay, guys, I randomly found this: The Gargoyles Personality Test! If none of you have found this before, one may wonder why! Click my name or copy this adress!

http://juliestudio.simplenet.com/gargoyles/gargsquiz.html

I'm takin' the test now, so I'll catch you later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 14, 1999 05:43:54 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Oooh-kay, I missed a few replies, I guess.

Kitania: So long stories have to be good? Tried Spike's yet? I'm tellin' ya, I think one of her fics is well above 300K, pure text, no unnecessary coding etc. like in word documents and HTML pages... it takes time to read, but it's worth it entirely. I think that particular fic was "Despair and Deliverance". Heh, funny thing, my usual text reader, MS-Edit won't take that file due to its size, I had to find a new text reader entirely...

Zath: Humans, soft, slow and tender? Hmmm... soft, maybe, slow, absolutely, tender... never in a million years.

Elfquest the movie? *Jumps frantically up and down* Hooray, whoopee, hallelujah, et cetera. Oh, I just hope they make it an animated movie, and not a motion picture with human actors... and I do definitely hope to hear familiar voices for the characters... like Thom Adcox-Hernandez (I know which character, but I can't remember his name.) or Salli Richardson (Leetah?). Oh, well, I'm getting too interested, I guess.

Dracula: Hmmm... out of all the versions I've seen... I prefer the Mel Brooks version. (Dracula - Dead and loving it.)

Fire Storm: Maybe it's a Freudian thing, this fear of female-only hygienic articles. It sure wouldn't surprise me.

Leaders in close and personal combat: Heck, I'd like to see one such fight that's an issue in Norway; Paul Watson vs. Steinar Bastesen! (Paul Watson is the leader of Sea Shepherd, an "environmentalist" organization who obviously is a bit off the mark, and perform covert sabotage on Norwegian whaleboats. Steinar Bastesen is a Norwegian whaler with a sense for environmentalism, politics and justice. He became famous overnight when Greenpeace-activists boarded his boat, threw his harpoon cannon overboard... and he threw them after it. Both, by my estimate, weigh in at about 200 pounds.) That would be a TRUE Clash of the Giants! PS! This is not a pro-whaling message, merely an observation of two extremes. Here's the pro-whaling message: Intelligent people eat intelligent food! As much as that is sure to provoke some people, I trust that everyone in here is grown up enough to see the humor.

Dentists: Well, as long as you stay away fom the ones who look like Corbin Bernsen... And there was an excellent curse mentioned in "Monkey Island 3: The Curse of Monkey Island"; "May you be eternally doomed to the Island of the Clumsy Dentist's Assistants!" Just be careful... I know how to cast that curse.

Well, that's all for now, so I'll be back later (most likely this evening, local time).

Best wishes to all here and their relative relatives.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 14, 1999 05:12:36 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Heather> <<I'm getting braces in two weeks.>> ACK! My sincerest condolences, friend. <hugZ>

Aaron> <<A cut scene where Scar propositioned someone?!? Please tell me this is available as bonus footage somewhere.>> Actually, it never got made; it was cut from the script. Ironically enough, its entire raison d'etre was to stave off suspicions about Scar being gay--apparently Disney was aware of rampant speculations regarding Jafar. But the proposition scene was deemed inappropriate and trashed. But they had a similar scene in the stage version. Heh...the whole Scar being gay thing reminds me of some psychopaths who claim Timon and Pumbaa are gay. PLEASE.

Ironwolf> <<How well dose every one resemble their sign?>> I'm a Capricorn (12/28 ;D), although I don't know what the Capricorn profile is so I don't know how closely I resemble it. :/

Gunjack> <<Two nights in a row now, I've had hyper-realistic, easily followable dreams that rivaled my favorite movies in coolness.>> Wow...I hope you continue to have such dreams (and wish I could have them; is it something one can learn?). :)

Jannie> <<self defense classes that the school system insisted that I attend>> The fact that there are the kind of students that necessitate this sort of thing is a sad commentary about...a lot of things, really...Grass Duty> Um...no comment; I'm too tired to start into an hour-long screaming rage and orgy of violence about the state of school administration right now...

Menessah> Welcome, and surrender your sanity, for it is futile. :) <<Does anybody know if there is a season three to Garg/Pendragon?>> There will be, although I'm not sure when.

Zath> <<One week he'd say I had an overbite, so he'd fill my mouth with rubber bands and send me home. Three weeks later, he'd decide I now had an awful *underbite*, so he'd rearrange the rubber bands, only to decide three weeks after that that I had an *overbite* again. This went on for months and months. Finally, I just stopped wearing the rubber bands except for when I went in to see him, and that's when he decide he had accomplished the great feat of getting my bite to stop shifting.>> :O This guy...ugh. Maybe someone should shove an industrial drill down his throat. >8) In all seriousness, though...if all this has done more harm than good, there has to be some way to get back all the fees you wasted on this idiot.

SOROW> <<ALL YOU MEN! Be very, very, very thankful you don't have to worry about all this @$&%!>> Trust me, not having to go through that is indeed something for which we are truly grateful. Although sometimes I wonder why women have to be condemned to suffer such miseries...no one deserves that...

Coyote> <<I just wanted to express my thanks and appreciation to everyone who has offered their shoulder to cry on, or their ear to bend. Just knowing you guys are here for me makes me feel so much better.>> Anytime, clan brother.

SJ> <<for someone who has all of the great Star Wars mythos in his head, it's taking a long time to put pen to paper, huh George?>> I'm kind of in the same position--I've got the (*very*) basic (read: skeletal) timeline of my own ficverse planned out from a few thousand years ago to what might be the end of the world, and it's *awfully* hard to work out the details sometimes. :) <<a big-budget historical movie based upon King Tut's life is being made. Who shall play the young King? Mikey Jackson.>> :O Please tell me the Egyptian government is ready to sue; I don't think I could handle seeing Jacko in Prince Of Egypt attire without a few suicide attempts...<<Trust me, ladies--no man wants to know about that.>> You think *you* are disturbed by the whole concept? I have a rudimentary awareness of the basic mechanics behind the whole thing. :P

Fire Storm> <<They almost looked paniced and were pointing at a factory-sealed pad as if it was a grenade with the pin already pulled.>> Um...the thing hadn't been used? Now, if it had, I could understand their disgust, but *really*...eesh. <<it's just a little blood. War and violence movies are watched by most men in this country, and most really like the blood there, ususally in gallons, but most are afraid of a few tablespoons of the stuff.>> It may have something to do with the exact origin of those few teaspoons; Freudian stuff like that can do things to people's minds. :)

Joe_Boxer> <<I apologize for yelling so much though. I just got very excited about meeting everyone! actually I'm just one of those bastards that like alot of attention...so I apologize for that too.>> Hey, no problem at all; we were all new once. :)

Pistoff> <<I was having surgery...and the anesthetic wore off halfway through the operation, and they wondered why I tried to scoot off the operating table...>> O_O' Um...is this not grounds for a malpractice suit (specifically against the anesthesiologist)? <<actually, it'd be nice if we could borrow an idea from Michael Moore and have the leaders of opposing countries compete in a monster truck race. Saddam could drive Bigfoot and Clinton could drive the Gravedigger. ;)>> MUHAHAHAH! And we can use Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich in the tractor pulls. >;) <<Thank you! Heh, short and simple, yet effective, eh? 8D>> <hehe> Indeed; Sometimes less is more. ^_^

Jaden> <<Star Wars Ep. 1- Jar Jar is supposedly representing an African American and that little blue guy with wings is supposed to be Italian.>> I've heard about that. Except for a superficial and probably coincidental resemblence in their accents, I don't see it either.

Warpmind> <<Weird, I expected to get a few comments on my "drop the subject" pun about the bomb...>> Heh...maybe it fizzled out? Or perhaps it went over people's heads? Or perhaps your timing was off--with some jokes, if they aren't told when the audience is in exactly the right mood, no matter how good they are, they turn out to be duds. :) (Hopefully my awful attempt at humor won't blow up in my face...) $Joyride> Impressive. Most impressive. ^_^$
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:26:53 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Hi, ladies and regulars...

Pistoff: Consider the list in the mail.

Christine: You didn't know about "Zombies of the Gene Pool?" Wow. Finally a book I discover first... I ordered it as soon as I was done with "Bimbos", and got online.

Weird, I expected to get a few comments on my "drop the subject" pun about the bomb...

**JOYRIDE OF BLOOD**
Pistoff climbs into Cthulhu after cleaning up. Warpmind looks at him somewhat disdainfully.
"You know, Pissy, I've heard the term Sick F*ck before, but you just gave the term an entirely deeper meaning. I'll never hear the term again without remembering this."
Jack grins and high-fives Pistoff, and then Cthulhu kicks onto the freeway and roars on, closely followed by Ebon 1.
Warpmind suddenly pulls out a pair of cranked-up binoculars.
"Jack, stop the car for a moment, I think I see someone up ahead!"
Warpmind steps out of Cthulhu and raises the binoculars to his eyes.
"Hmmm... about a klick and a half away, it's... it's... oh, it's Birdie, all right! Jack, I think we got about two miles of straight road in each direction, so you just start backing up a mile or so, we'll need all the runway we can get."
Warpmind then steps up to the fron of the car and attaches something to the bumper before jumping into the back seat. Jack switches to reverse and speeds backwards for a mile and a half before stopping.
"Okay, Warpmind, what's the deal?"
"That... humanoid... up ahead is called Birdie, a guy I once went to school with. Imagine the world's biggest nerd ever, add an offensive nature and a sour disposition, and you're in the ballpark. If you miss him, Jack, I swear to God, I'll take you on barehanded. No matter that I'm physically inferior to you, I want to see him scattered on the freeway."
"O-kay. Here goes, three miles of speeding, and then... splat."
Cthulhu lurches forward, gaining speed at a rate unheard of in cars. Warpmind, Miriam and Attila suffer from mild blackouts due to the number of G's in effect, and then... Cthulhu hits a very confused and surprised-looking person who is immediately scattered for all winds. A set of blood-stained spikes pop up in front of the hood. Jack brakes hard, and the passengers in the back seat are jerked forward in one single motion.
"Jaysys, Warps, what'cha do to my car?"
"*Gasp, choke, UNGH!* Nothing, I just hooked a set of Fan Spikes onto the bumper, nothing permanent..."
Attila looks up at the others.
"Uh, I think I'm going to hurl..."
"EVERYBODY OUT OF MY CAR!"
As the Joyriders scramble out, Pistoff kicks something lying on the ground.
"What is this? Looks like... a kidney."
**TO BE CONTINUED**

Oh, that felt good. That guy annoyed the heck out of everyone for two semesters, and I recently had the misfortune of meeting him again. To top it off, I was unarmed at the time... ;)

Well, gotta scoot. Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:12:11 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

SOROW> <<Was it really Merlin?! Now that's somebody I didn't consider.>> Not being on staff, I could be wrong, but that's who I always assumed he was. <<miss half of school tomorrow cause I have to go get those birth control pills>> Please be careful, I've known several people who had really bad reactions to the Pill, and one even ended up in the hospital because of it.

Robby> <<Scar wanting to make a lot of little Scars wtih Nala>> Strangely enough, the first thing that came to mind when I read that was chicken pox...

SJ> <<I absolutely loathed the Coppola remake. It was boring as hell, and didn't have much going for it>> In all fairness, it was a lot closer to the original material than a lot of movies based on novels. It wasn't anywhere near perfect, but at least it looked like they were trying some. The book was pretty dull too. << Nowadays you can't find a decent horror flick anywhere on the small screen>> Can't find any on the big screen these days either.

Pistoff> <<it'd be nice if we could borrow an idea from Michael Moore and have the leaders of opposing countries compete in a monster truck race. Saddam could drive Bigfoot and Clinton could drive the Gravedigger.>> Or we could put them together in a pro wrestling situation. Add Yeltsin and a few other political heavies from around the world to make it a tag team event, and then all of humanity could throw away their differences to collectively retch at the sight of all those flabby old men in tight spandex. : P
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 03:37:28 AM
IP: ppp-225-021.usc.edu

****RP!!!****
"Speaking of keeping an eye on him," Kit says scanning the battle field. "Where is Jaden?"

"Why are we here!?" Thailog asks Alchemist. "Being this close to the Raven's battle is suicide if we are discovered."
"Don't worry, we'll only be here a few minutes longer. You can come out now Jaden." Alchemist says with a happy grin.
Jaden steps out behind some rubble. "As you command my master."
"The following injections that I'm giving our 'friend' here," Alchemist explains to Thailon. "should allow Jaden to block most mind probes at least long enough for us to destroy his friends. Now go rejoin the battle Jaden and here's a little cover story to explain your disappearance.
****END RP!!!****

I'm soooo happy, I have given my last speech and I'm done with that class. One down and three to go. BTW I was getting my hair cut today and I decided to go with something a little different. Instead of dark brown hair I had it bleched to a blondish-whitish color.

Coyote- I'm so sorry, I wish I could do something to help. If you need to talk I'm here.

Warpmind- Thanks, I'm glad I made some sense.

Joe Boxer-What? We live for unorthidox.

Lion King racist- Ok! I have had it. We cannot sit down anymore to enjoy a good movie without someone making a big deal about something that isn't there. The Lion King- Timon, Pumba, and Scar are gay (just watched film DID NOT SEE IT!!!!) Star Wars Ep. 1- Jar Jar is supposedly representing an African American and that little blue guy with wings is supposed to be Italian. I payed seven bucks to see the movie for a third time to see if I could pick any of this up and I couldn't, and when someone pointed out what I was supposed to be seeing it was so stupid. This ladies and gents are peoples own personal prejudices. They take good movies and twist things around because of their own consious or unconsious views on something.

****RP CONTINUED****
"Jaden, where have you been?" Kitainia snapped.
"You won't believe what just happened, Alchemist has been trying to take over my mind. He came here to recapture me and kill all of you, but he came alone so I was able to over-power him. He won't be bothering me or anyone else anymore."

"The easiest way to lie..." Alchemist remarked as he and Thailog left the battle grounds. "is to simply tell the truth, except for the parts that really matters."
****END RP!!!****

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Thursday, October 14, 1999 03:14:30 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Yeesh! Still playing catch-up, here. I'll do a few responses to some stuff that came up a while ago, before everybody forgets it, heh. I'll catch up to the rest ASAP. Things are still kinda weird around here, but slowly straightening out...sloooooowwwwwwwly. ;)

Warpmind: Ridickulous, eh? I like that. :) *bows* Thank you. <Gods above, I can't believe such specimens still exist in the US.> Heh, actually, finding specimens like my customers in the U.S. should come as no surprise at all. After all, this is a rather messed-up country. We have leaders who say things like...

"I didn't inhale." --Clinton
"I am not a crook!" --Nixon
"Outside of the killings, [Washington] has one of the lowest crime rates in the country." --Marion Barry
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." --Dan Quayle

Ye gods. Those are our leaders. Imagine what the lowest common denominator must be like. *cringes* As George Carlin once said, "Think of the average person...and then realize that half of 'em are even stupider than that!" ;) And I'd like to see that Top Ten list you mentioned.... ;D

Scott: Loved the Pokeman craze thingy. ;)

jewel: Congrats on finding an apartment! :D

Fleur: Good to see you again! :) Sorry about the asthma problems, hope they go away soon. I agree with you about hospitals, too. Those places are no fun at all. Last time I was a patient in one, I was having surgery...and the anesthetic wore off halfway through the operation, and they wondered why I tried to scoot off the operating table... O_o

Zath: Ack! Sorry about the troubles in your apartment building. If you find out who did that, feel free to join the Joyride. :)

On the subject of war: Hmm...actually, it'd be nice if we could borrow an idea from Michael Moore and have the leaders of opposing countries compete in a monster truck race. Saddam could drive Bigfoot and Clinton could drive the Gravedigger. ;)

Delphi: Loved that "only in America" bit. ROTFLMAO!! Thanks. :)

Spike: Congrats on becoming an aunt! :D

Coyote: Oh, damn...I'm sorry about what happened with Ravyn. I've had my heart broken, too, and it's something I wouldn't wish on anybody. But we'll be here to help you get through it, bud.

Jannie: <I clicked on your link *blinks* Wellllll... at least now I'm no longer in limbo as to what to get you for Christmas ;D *snickers*> Heh...the sad thing is, when I read that, my first thought was, "Cool!" ;) Actually, if there's one out there that looks like Demona...*g* hehehehehehe!

Tim P: Your World HIstory professor...aaaaaaAAAACK!! I have a couple of customers who sound just like that...hmm...Joyride, anyone? *g* <She didn't like that there was a half naked young indian girl running around the forest. Hell, that was my favorite part.> LOL! Would've been my favorite part, too, if I'd bothered to watch the movie. ;)

Coyote again: Ahh, three auctions. Cool! Congrats, bud! :D BTW, I just won an auction of my own, yesterday. I'm getting a mint-condition, never-opened copy of the Gargoyles movie...for...brace yourself, now...$2!!! There are a lot of those on eBay, but this one was only $2! And here's the weird thing--I was the only one who bid on it!!! I placed my bid when there was almost two days left for bidding, and in two days, nobody else bid on it. O_o So I got the movie for two bucks...and it even comes with the boardgame. *slightly dizzy* hehehehehehe!!! HOO-AH!!!

Hmm..."Sugarbooger"...That has a nice ring to it. *g*

Sex and Death: Well, assuming this is even true (and to me it sounds like bull$h!t ;)...considering my sexual track record, if this is true, I'm gonna live forever! But...wait a minute...does this include masturbation, too? *suddenly nervous* ;P If it does, then I probably have two weeks left to live....

Self-defense: I've talked about this before. People who deliver pizzas are murdered on the job quite frequently. Just for a pizza and twenty bucks. So you're damned right, I'm ready to kill any motherf--ker who takes a shot at me. It's really scary, to have that kind of mindset (it's what you'd expect from a soldier or gang member, not a guy with a minimum-wage job), but on this job, you never know when you might get a delivery that's a set-up. And the company rules forbid the drivers to carry so much as a pocket knife. *snorts* Yeah, right. Even in the small town I live in, there are certain neighborhoods, out where the buses don't run, that I wouldn't get anywhere near unless I was armed and ready to take somebody out. It's sad and frightening, but that's the kind of world we live in.

Jenna: I'm glad things seem to be working out with your brother-in-law. I hope it stays that way. *hugs*

Robby: Vinnie fan? Kewl! I've already started on the first episode of Vinnie's Story. It took me a while to think up a plot and a title, but it pretty much clicked together while I was at work today (we had no orders at all today--again--so I wrote an entire scene in my beat-up old notebook). It's called "And They are Us," and...well, I won't spoil it for ya. *evil grin* I hope to have it finished soon. :)

Oh, speaking of which...does anybody here know where I can find some screehshots of Sora? I haven't seen any of the episodes in years, and I don't remember what she looks like, except that her skin is pink (I *think* it is, anyway...). I need this for her description in the story. Thanks in advance. :)

Wilek: <DC torment> OH YE *GODZ*. THAT WAS SICK. THAT WAS TWISTED. THAT WAS EVIL. THAT WAS HORRIBLE. THAT WAS WARPED. THAT WAS DISGUSTING. OH HOW I LOVED IT. >8)> *bows theatrically* Thank you! Heh, short and simple, yet effective, eh? 8D

*sighs* Well, that's all I have time for, right now. I have tomorrow off, so I should be able to catch up with the rest then. I hope. Till next time, I leave you with the following words of wisdom....

"We must view with profound respect the infinite capacity of the human mind to resist the introduction of useful knowledge." ---Thomas Raynesford Lounsbury
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 02:42:52 AM
IP: wire-6.koalas.com

Hey evryone. Thanks for such a warm welcome. I apologize for yelling so much though. I just got very excited about meeting everyone! actually I'm just one of those bastards that like alot of attention...so I apologize for that too.

Sevarious> SOROW gets like that often (very often) :)..no, but as often as she gets like that, she still remains to stay as sweet as an angel. Hey, you don't like hearing about it, but atleast you don't have to be around her when it happens right? j/k: I love you SOROW.

Kit>As SOROW told you, we did cut our first CD, and the band is hoping to be able record and cut another one during winter break. (Highschool students only have time to cut CD's during holidays) Hopefully in the near future, our manager will be able to update our old website and put some music files on it. (sorry about "music files", I'm not too familiar with computer jargon) I'll send you the webstite addy as soon as we're done fixing it... We just performed at our high school's talent show. As soon as it was time for us, people started yelling our name and rushed to the front of the stage. A huge crowd coalesced and girls started screaming for us. I felt like I was a member from N-SYNC or something. Our principle was so impreessed by the success of our performance and popularity that he suggested the idea of having a highschool "palooza" to raise money for our school clubs.

SOROW>HEY BABE. So did I do okay on my first time in here? Hope so... I want to be DOWN with all of your net buddies. I think it's great that your finally getting those pills cause I know how much it bothers you, and I hate seeing you suffer every month. Yes... I love you very much. Any ways, I'm enjoying this whole comment room thing, but I have to go finsh my world geo project.YUCK! And I better get that done quick cause I don't want you yautching at me for staying up so late. (P.S. Thanks for telling me what it means, but I thought I recall it being Women and not Workforce?)

LATER EVERYONE!
JOE_BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 02:33:26 AM
IP: spider-wo064.proxy.aol.com

<>WARNING! "Monthly Friend" rant<>

Oh please... most men blow that WAY out of proportion. Like my ex-coworkers, for example.
I was busy in my section when they yelled for me to come over to the front door. They almost looked paniced and were pointing at a factory-sealed pad as if it was a grenade with the pin already pulled.
"For crying out loud!" I muttered, then picked it up and threw it away.
"I can't believe you touched that!" One of them said with discust.
Grow up. If some guy knows his woman, he knows that she has "monthly visitors." Most guys are afraid of even the mention of the word TAMPON or MAXI-PAD, much less the concept of going to the store to get them.
Personally, when I was at PACE with my dad, I was unsure what type to get for LM, so I borrowed his cell phone and called to make sure I got the right one. Whats so bad about that?

WHY are guys afraid of that stuff? is it because they are secretly afraid of thier women, or is it more of they don't know how it works, and what they don't know, they are afraid of?

Personally, I don't mind when I hear about LM's "visitor." It tells me that I don't have to worry about a permant visitor 9 months later! (FYF, we do practice MULTIPLE forms of safe sex, but we still worry regardless. There still is that 2.5% margin of error.)

And besides... it's just a little blood. War and violence movies are watched by most men in this country, and most really like the blood there, ususally in gallons, but most are afraid of a few tablespoons of the stuff. Pathetic.

<>END RANT!<>

Wishing: Thanks all, and keep it up! We haven't seen them yet.

PRAISE <FIRST-THOUGHT//GIVER-OF-WILL>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 01:48:45 AM
IP: 216.90.45.171

***BEGIN RP***
The team of heroes turned to stare in horror at the giant Phalanx Prime that had appeared from the wall. It laughed at them. "You look like so many insects to me. It will be glorious to crush you underfoot."
"Laugh all you want," Kari spoke up defiantly. "You're not gonna leave this Sphinx alive. Neither are any of your drones."
"Should I attack?" Black Tiger asked. He was ready for the fight.
"Not yet," SJ replied. He gritted his teeth and snarled at Prime. "Listen up, alien-robot boy. I've had a very bad last few weeks, okay? Nothing but having to beat the crap out jerks like you. It's getting to be a bit of a joke. So, what we're gonna do here is, we're gonna give you the glorious opportunity to surrender now before it gets *really* ugly."
Prime laughed deeply. "Ah, heroes always amuse me. No, no, little ones. This little story ends in violence."
"You can't hope to win."
"I could say the same for you. But here's a new question for you. How fast do you think you can make it to the main control room?"
"What are you driving at?" SJ screamed.
Prime leaned down towards the group, towering over them. "Cause if you're not there in 5 minutes, I kill your father."
He began laughing again, long and loud. With a cry of frustration and anger, SJ brought his rifle up and fired. The rest of the heroes took that as their cue to attack, but before any damage could be done, Prime has once again dissolved back into the Sphinx's structure, leaving only wall behind.
***PAUSE RP***

Entertainment news!!
A few bits tonight. On the Star Wars front, don't expect production of the next film until about this time NEXT year. Gee, for someone who has all of the great Star Wars mythos in his head, it's taking a long time to put pen to paper, huh George? Forgive my bitterness.

A Wheel of Time Miniseries, based upon Robert Jordan's series, is reportedly in the works....Blade 2 is being developed, with the script done and Snipes back on board...

...and in news so unbelievable it can't be true....there's a rumor out now that a big-budget historical movie based upon King Tut's life is being made. Who shall play the young King? Mikey Jackson. Insert your own jokes, please, I find no challenge in the criticism ;)

Gunjack: That's a pretty cynical view. Yes, we could always remain half-angels and half-@$$holes (or mostly a-holes and few angels, depending on your p.o.v.), but I'd like to be the optimist and think that will change (please don't tell me I'm not being "realistic", that's an argument I've heard too often, with varying degrees of sarcasm and scorn).
Is our cynical world view a product or "our" generation? If so, that saddens me, because I find it everywhere. We're the disenfranchised generation, perhaps the result of being the children of those individuals who became disenfranchised from their own culture and country (I'm referring to the 60s and the Baby Boomers). Bloody depressing as hell.

Bram Stoker's Dracula & Horror flicks: I love the original Dracula (well...the Lugosi version; I suppose such classics as "Nosferatu" could be considered the first), but I absolutely loathed the Coppola remake. It was boring as hell, and didn't have much going for it, personally, except some good special fx and Gary Oldman.
I must admitt, though, I'm a bit depressed at the lack of Horror I'm seeing on tv this month. It's friggin' October! Geez, I remember the good ol' days. Back in the mid-to-late eighties, when the Fox network was nowhere near where it is today, they'd show horror flicks like, *everyday* in October. Not just the usual Friday the 13th/Halloween/Nightmare on Elms Street stuff either; I'm talking the classics, the 70's schlock, even the Hammer movies! Nowadays you can't find a decent horror flick anywhere on the small screen. Unless you count I Know You're Staring At Jennifer Love Hewitt's Breasts on pay per view. I've got to raid the video store for all that beautiful b-movie shock I crave!

Princess Mononoke: As far as I know, Miramax is the one distributing this film. I hope to God Disney isn't, cause you know they'd just screw things up. They don't know how to handle a "real" cartoon. No offense, but I consider Mononoke LIGHTYEARS better than anything Disney can produce (Gargoyles excluded, naturally ;). Disney: has lots of cutesy animal sidekicks that sell lots of plush toys. Mononoke: has decaps that show this movie's not for the kiddies.
I fear for Mononoke, though, cause I think the American public at large is not capable of really appreciating it. It's sad to say, but as Americans we have an unbelievable tunnel vision when it comes to foreign cinema. Americans as a whole don't like foreign films as near as much as American films. And I'm talking most of the crap that comes out of Hollywood. What will people go to--a masterpiece like Kurosawa's "Ikiru", or a film with Adam Sandler playing a retard (again)? Even the greatest foreign films of all time, like "The Seven Samurai", have to go through Americanizations in order to be popular (in that case, it became "The Magnificent Seven"). I'd love for Mononoke to earn gazillions at the box office, but unless your Japanese film has the word "Pokemon" stamped all over it, it's not gonna be rakin in the dough.

SOROW: Jesus, watch that monthly visitor talk! Ever wanna make a man leave the room--fast? Start talking about that. Trust me, ladies--no man wants to know about that. You know those soldiers in a war who see their friends' heads blown off just feet away from them, but they keep fighting anyway? It's like that. We spend quite a bit of time trying to suppress that soul-shaking horror. Don't think about it, it doesn't exist ;). Thank God I'm a man. ;0p

Dentists: If I am ever called upon to form a legion of skilled torturers, I shall merely start recruiting at the nearest D.D.S. office. I honestly think all dentists are sadists at heart. I fear them; what sane man or woman truthfully enjoys routinely attacking people with sharp picks or drills, other than a total psychopath? ;)

Coyote: I feel guilty for asking this, but you're gonna be okay, aren't you? I know you probably feel horrible...I do about the situation...but you won't do anything, you know...potentially self-damaging, will you? I love ya, my friend, and I don't want anything to happen to you. I'm here for you. :)

***RESUME RP***
Prime turned to Dr. Sevarius. The Phalanx was smiling beneath his hood. "Now things get *really* interesting."
"What have you done?"
"I've put their feet to the fire, so to speak."
"And my son?"
"Oh he's coming. You're remarkably good bait, my dear doctor." Prime stretched out a hand that grew to immense proportions, easily large enough to wrap around Sevarius' frame. He clutched him in his claw. "But if he doesn't get here soon...well, you'll be enjoying all the comforts of hell soon enough."
***END RP***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:34:57 AM
IP: 207-172-44-235.s235.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Don't have a lot of time this evening, and I'm going to crash soon ... but I just wanted to express my thanks and appreciation to everyone who has offered their shoulder to cry on, or their ear to bend. Just knowing you guys are here for me makes me feel so much better. Heather, you know I felt better after last night, thanks bunches. **hugs**

GB ... what have ye said to yer friend Rabbi Angie about me? All good, I hope ... she's been IM'ing me the last couple of nights ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:15:40 AM
IP: modem28.i-is.com

Bimbos > there's a sequel?!?!?! ::runs over to amazon.com to look::

I had a bunch more I was going to say but I forgot ... tonight's the last of five noc shifts in a row ... I am so tired and outsmarted myself -- finished ElfLore and still had 3 nights to go but no stories have been brewing long enough so they're not ready, so writing has been going very slowly and not without pain.

Watched Dracula for atmosphere last night and had forgotten that I really didn't like it all that much ... so artsy yet with blood splashing everywhere ... not to mention Keanu Reeves with a bad spray-on-grey job as Johnathan Harker.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 11:13:01 PM
IP: dial69.b2.tnt5.wa.freei.net

Robby> Oh, even better! I simply can't wait!

I'm off to get ready for a good night's sleep... yeah right! I think I'll just watch South Park instead. OKIloveyoubyebye!
SOROW
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 09:45:25 PM
IP: dll2b410-16.splitrock.net

Aaron- In the Broadway Musical version of Lion King, there was an entire song number about Scar wanting to make a lot of little Scars wtih Nala, and a couple of lines about "My, how you've grown." Apparently, this is what sent Nala running to Simba...

Jenna- Elfquest the movie IS being made. Endi Pini hasn't spent the last five years of her talented life for there not to be. The script is finalized, the storyboards are all done, production is going full steam, the website is updated regularly, they have a budget of 15 million, and its slated for a 2001 release. (Too dang far off...) And yeah, the series did degenerate a bit after KOTBW, which is why I don't consider anything after that other than Hidden Years real Elfquest. (Hidden Years 9 1/2, the 'Holiday special" was great...) And the main reason is because yes, they had a cast of sixty characters in five books and Wendi wasn't working on any of them... (The later Hidden Years stuff with Ember and Teir was good tho...)

Princess Mononoke, as near as I can tell from lack of advertising and rumors, Disney is being stupid and releasing it to a limited number of theaters only. And its not like Disney itself will get in trouble for an animated PG-13 movie, since they're releasing it through Mirimax. What, they don't think anime will do well? So why go to so much trouble to bring it over in the first place the jerks... Oh well, its got Gilian Anderson providing the voice of the mother wolf goddess and Kieth David doing the opening narration even though the original version was silent... (So yes Jenna, it will be dubbed, hopefully the video release 6 or 7 months down the line will have a subtitled option...)

Scar being gay- I never thought for a second that he was, but some reviewers and MAD Magazine thought he was. The accent, the sleek and trim build, and the hair flinging thing he did during "Be Prepared" made him seem a little feminine I guess...

SOROW- Can't answer your Dark Ages question, but it just may be answered in the upcoming season...
Robby
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:56:52 PM
IP: spider-wm072.proxy.aol.com

Jenna: Do exactly what your orthodontist says. When I had braces put on, the doctor said they would have to stay on for 2 years. But because I followed directions (and doubled up on rubber bands;) I got my braces taken off almost a year early. My sister on the other hand, was supposed to wear them for one year but wore them for two because she did not follow the doctors orders.

If you people thought that last comment about my World History proffessor was off the wall, check this out; She's a white woman that thinks she's an indian. Okay, her great-great-great-great-grandfather was and indian, but the rest is white. I'm 1/8th Omaha indian myself. So what? I'm part German, Jewish, Croatian, and if you look hard enough, I think I have some black relatives somewhere in the Omaha-Lincoln area. But she friggin' rubs it our faces. I'm a Democrat and I'm still afraid she's gonna bust my balls if I say or do anything remotely conservative.

Tim P.
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:51:59 PM
IP: bn706-01.wsc.edu

Zath- ohh, that sounds bad. Too bad he was quack- my orth was pretty okay..well, guess there are all types...
jenna
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:19:23 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-92-108.hstntx.swbell.net

Where's JackaL? When he doesn't post after a while, I start to get nervous...

Kit> Their band just cut a kick @$$ CD, but hopefully it won't be too long before they're worldwide famous!

Zath> Was it really Merlin?! Now that's somebody I didn't consider. Hmmmmmmm...

I get to miss half of school tomorrow cause I have to go get those birth control pills. Since I'm not 18, I have to be there in person. *sigh* After going through all this crap, these things better work. Personally, I don't enjoy throwing up my breakfast everyday of my "mothly visitor." ALL YOU MEN! Be very, very, very thankful you don't have to worry about all this @$&%!
SOROW
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:10:17 PM
IP: dll2b105-46.splitrock.net

**Zath enters, whistling a happy tune**

Hi all, I just got back from chem lab and not only did I not hurt myself this time (though I did get showered with little bits of glass when the guy next to me *blew up* his test tube), but I actually finished with over an hour to spare, so I'm in a pretty good mood right now : ) In other news, I got to go to a talk by paleontologist Jack Horner last night. He had some pretty neat things to say including how the myth of the griffon may be based on protoceratops skeletons (four legs, long tail, big beak, and weird shoulder blades that might be mistaken for wing bones). Also, there was someone on campus today handing out tickets for a free screening of Nicholas Cage's new movie Bringing out the Dead, but this time it's at the studio instead of the local theater, so there's no way I could get there. : (

ironwolf> <<You know once a bear or a lion taste the two legged cow they crave it over all other meat? Any one know? Just morbid curiosity.>> Probably because humans are soft, slow, and tender.

jenna> <<do everything they say, even if it hurts. The sooner you do it, the sooner you can get them off.>> I wouldn't always count on that. I did everything my orth said, but the guy was a quack. One week he'd say I had an overbite, so he'd fill my mouth with rubber bands and send me home. Three weeks later, he'd decide I now had an awful *underbite*, so he'd rearrange the rubber bands, only to decide three weeks after that that I had an *overbite* again. This went on for months and months. Finally, I just stopped wearing the rubber bands except for when I went in to see him, and that's when he decide he had accomplished the great feat of getting my bite to stop shifting. >: ( Combined with the fact that he always used me as a training dummy for his trainees who shouldn't be trusted to tie their own shoes let alone handle sharp objects in people's mouths (I still remember the awful pain and bleeding gums caused sudden slips on more than one occasion) the $#!%#&@|) should have been *PAYING ME* instead of the other way around. I put up with this from 7th through the end of 10th grade(I moved just a few weeks after getting my retainer) and my teeth *still* aren't completely straight. I seriously think he did much more harm than good, and now, years later, if he got hit by a bus, the only reason I'd be upset would be that I wasn't the one driving it...

Jannie> <<we will be assigned to stand on the sidewalk - OFF of school property - and tell the kids to stay on the sidewalk and off of his grass>> WHAT?!? If that loser loves his lawn so much, he should go out and protect the stupid thing himself!

SOROW> <<who the hell was that guy who could see the future in the Dark Ages ep, "The Wanderer" was it?>> I assumed it was Merlin, because in The Darkest Hour pt. 1 when Emrys meets the Trio, he shouts "No! No horsey rides!"

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:43:17 PM
IP: ppp-223-081.usc.edu

**RP WARNING**

On a highway in the Sahara, a Humvee takes the Giza exit and zooms down its ramp, passing the withdrawing Egyptian army battalion at breakneck speed. "I hope I'm not too late," Erin mumbles to herself, pulling to a stop in front of the Pyramids and hopping out with weapons in hand.

Nearby, the Ravens have just begun to attack the Phalanx drones clustered around the Sphinx when all of a sudden both Jammer and Shauna are knocked down by shots from behind. "What the hell..." Jammer groans, clutching his wounds in pain. "Look out!" Shauna screams at the others. They immediately spin around and drop their jaws to see Janice aiming her pistol at them. "Whoa, Agent Ripowski," Doug holds up his hands. "You're supposed to be on our side." "Yeah, Jan," Tom stammers, scarcely able to believe their gov't liasion has turned on them. "What are you doing?" She says nothing, instead firing more shots which the team has to scatter to avoid. "What is going on here?" Kitainia asks. Meanwhile, Mist hisses loudly and pounces on Janice, knocking her over and sweeping off her sunglasses with a paw swipe. "Phalanx!" Gubio shouts, immediately noting the disturbing skin discoloration around Janice's eyes. "Oh no!" Tom moans. "That tentacle did get her. What do we do?" "First we knock her out," suggests Boris. "Out of the way, Mist!" The cat-creature leaps off Janice and Boris immediately throws a sleeping-gas grenade at their Phalanxed friend as she leaps back up. She falls over as she breathes in its fumes, knocked out. "That was a close one," Shap sighs in relief. "Yeah," agrees Stephanie. "There better not be more traitors around here." "You guys get on to the Sphinx," Keith tells Doug and Kitainia. "I'll get Ripowski back to the Avatar shuttle. Maybe they can do something to get her back to normal." "I'll come with you," Tom says, Elena and Orion nodding that they will too. Doug, Kit, and the others cover the four of them while they run back across the field with Janice's inert body and then turn back to the Sphinx. "We have to get in there," Lathrop says. "The Daleks almost have a path clear." "Let's take it as soon as it's ready," Doug replies. "We'll let the others worry about Janice." Tricia nods in agreement, then taps Kit on the shoulder as the others are running back to the fighting. "Can I speak to you for a minute?" "Sure," Kit answers. "What's up?"

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everybody! Time for my first post of the week. :) First round of tests ended today, except for the take-home exam I'll finish this weekend. I did well on most of them (2 Bs, one C, one A), hope I can do the same with the next round (which is coming soon, sigh).

**BEGIN REVIEW OF RANDOM HEARTS**

Doug and I went to see this movie Sunday afternoon out of boredom, and it pretty much increased that feeling. :( Nice preformances by Ford and Scott-Thomas, but the script was weak and the storyline wasn't that interesting. People who enjoy romance drama films might like it, (though I am one of those people and didn't much) other than that it was just the usual Hollywood hoopla. 5/10, thumbs down. Hope better movies come out later in the month.

**REVIEW ENDS**

Christine: Finished Bimbos yesterday, thought it ended predictably but well. Thanks again for recommending it. I look forward to your upcoming new erotic Jedi fic (and the Gargoyles ones too of course). :)

Robby: Thanks for the Dark Ages teaser. Now you've put me on the edge of my seat waiting for the premiere. <sighs> Three weeks. Hope I can stand it. <grin> Oh well, I know it will be good when it finally comes out.

War and the Bomb: I don't really have an opinion on this issue, haven't thought about it much. I do agree with Kaioto's bits about it from last week and this one, and Valentine and Jenna have also made very good points. If I had to say something, I'd probably use the following paraphrased quote from Final Fantasy 8- "Most problems can be solved by negotiation, but it often costs too much and takes too long, especially when the other person does not want to cooperate with or care about you. That's when violence is necessary, to solve the problems negotiation cannot. Therefore the world needs to have both people like you, who are good at negotiating and put all their faith in it, and people like me, who are standing by ready to fight just in case."

SOROW: Congrats on getting through the PSAT alive. I remember when I took it, and it was a big hassle. Not as much as the real SAT, though. :) Hope you did well.

Fleur: Welcome back to the CR, glad you didn't stay away too long. I read your latest fic and enjoyed it, thanks for the entertainment. Congrats on getting over your athsma, too.

Warpmind: I agree with you about long stories, they have to be really good for me to enjoy them (Doug and Christine's stuff usually fulfills that requirement, so does TGS). I'm afraid I haven't read too many of your fanfics, though maybe I should start. :)

Buffy and Angel: Good episodes in both shows last night, I liked their character development and stories as well as the new characters in each. Hope Buffy and Willow enjoy being roommates, it should definitely be a better situation for them than it was with their previous ones (which kinda makes me wonder why they didn't just set things up to be roomies beforehand. I guess that would have wasted a lot of good potential plot). Can't wait for next week's crossover and return of Spike.

Sex and Death: I don't know if I fully believe the study SJ quoted relating these two things. What works for worms doesn't necessarily work for humans, after all. Even if there's a study on our own species with similar results, though, I still wouldn't be worried. That you die when you're supposed to and no sooner or later has always been one of my cardinal beliefs. Besides, sex can be one of the most enjoyable things in life, and I wouldn't stop having it just to get a few more years in this messed-up world. :) So that study holds no water for me. I will still be making sure all the sex I have is good, loving, and consensual, though, just on general principle. :)

Welcome Joe Boxer! Glad to have you here. BTW, SOROW's told us you have a good band. Put out any tapes or CDs? <just curious>

Coyote: <sighs> Words can't express the death of sadness I feel right now because of your situation. I guess the best advice I can give is that no matter how much we pray, these things unfortunately happen sometimes. Then all we can do is try to bear it and go on. Like others have said, we're all here to help you do that if you need us. Hope you can soon be happy again, and that this won't destroy any of the good qualities you have. I know a few people who have turned terribly bitter due to the loss of a love like you and Ravyn had, and thus become like walking zombies. I'd hate to see it happen to you. You'll be in my prayers, friend. Don't hesitate to drop me a line at the e-mail below if you need a shoulder to vent on. Good luck surviving this, I guess that's all I can say.

And on that note, I'll wrap up this post. Have to get home and see what to do about dinner. And study afterwards. Hope I have free time this evening, though I doubt I will. It's just like my professors to flood me with homework after the tests are over. :( <exits and waves>

**MORE RP**

Tricia looks at Kit nervously. "It's Jaden," she answers the previous question. "Have you noticed how he's acting funny?" Kit frowns. "Well, he does seem a little belligerent, but isn't he always like that when we're in a fight?" "Yeah," Tricia agrees, "but I think that in this one he's acting more so than usual. He was back in our fights at Area 51-A too. I've had a few chances to probe his mind between then and now, and something I've felt from doing that worries me." "What's that?" "I don't know. It's like I feel another presence in there, someone else trying to infiltrate him psionically. I don't know what they're doing, but it can't be good." Kit nods in agreement. "We better keep a close eye on Jaden," she decides, looking over to where the werewolf is snarling and howling as he cuts up Phalanx drones. "This worries me too." "I'll watch him," Tricia says. "Let's get back to the others." Kit nods again and they run on to the Sphinx.

Across the battlefield, Harthoth walks through the Pyramids' gates to find a heavily wounded Isfet lying on the ground next to the gift shop. "What happened?" he asks, bending down next to her. "That golden b&*#h was here!" the dragonspawn growls. "I fought her, but she beat me again!" Harthoth looks worried. "Where is she now?" "I don't know! She ran off! Didn't you see her?" He shakes his head. "I'm sorry, but I didn't. I guess it doesn't matter, she's gone now. And the situation here seems to be resolving itself. I suggest we withdraw before we attract more negative attention." "But the Pyramids! My father..." "We are withdrawing," Harthoth snaps, his voice brooking no argument. "We do not need to fight here. Come." Grabbing Isfet's arm and helping her up, he then turns to head back into the desert. Isfet sighs and follows him, knowing her partner is right. If they do destroy the Pyramids I will return and take my revenge on them, she vows silently. First, though, my wounds must heal.

**END RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:31:50 PM
IP: fac-b-b8.lib.utexas.edu

Hey everybody! Does anybody know if there is a season three to Garg/Pendragon? They can't just leave me hanging!
Hey, Jannie, just wondering, but what are the kinds of self defense you learn. Oriental? Or are they things like take downs and joint locks?
Thanks,
Menessah
Menessah - [holymage@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:28:01 PM
IP: filter.lds.net

- okay, I need some info about this Princess Mononoke, and no one laugh at my questions okay?? Again, anyone who knows the answers- please respond.

Is Disney releasing Princess Mononoke?

Will it be in all theatres, or just a few?

I'm taking it will be dubbed into english?

I've heard rumors there will be a Madonna song on it? Please let this be a rumor...

So can anyone answer these questions??
jenna
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:14:08 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-83-35.hstntx.swbell.net

Joe Boxer> As in the boxers I gave you??? Bang, bang! Just kidding, you know I love you. And yes... Society Of Rebel Outcast Workforce. I know you've been killing yourself trying to figure that out. Oh, and all caps means shouting so don't break your voice box. :) HEY EVERYONE! Give my friend here a BIG WELCOME! This is my ex, whom you all know as my best friend. He is also in the totally awesome band at our school that I mentioned a while back! HE'S COOL!

Coyote> You're welcome! *hugs*

Deuce> That was a beautiful poem with all the right words!

night walker> Keith David is in Princess Mononoke?! Awesome! An even better reason to go see it!

Robby> I don't know if you're allowed to say or if you know... but who the hell was that guy who could see the future in the Dark Ages ep, "The Wanderer" was it? I just gotta know!
SOROW
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 05:59:42 PM
IP: dll2b203-12.splitrock.net

Iron> Yes, the self-defense courses that we are required to attend are extremely beneficial. I work in Special Education and I "specialize" in behavioral disorders. The course is called, "Assertive Discipline" and it excellent! The first objective is to defuse any volatile situation without use of force and if that is not attainable, then if the situation calls for it, take them down by legal force. I stress LEGAL force for a reason. (goes back to those law-suit-happy parents and not accepting responsiblity for themselves nor their child's behaviors) I'm 5'1" and I can take down up to a 6' student without doing any permanent harm. In this course, we are also taught how to "fight dirty" should the need for that would arise. *g* (Which is what I used this past summer.) I also have a very good friend who is a police officer and worked at the Juvie Boot Camp here in Houston - hehehe, he gave me some quick lessons too ;) I hope that you will continue studying and practicing any type of self defense courses that you are able to. I do feel more confident now knowing that I can defend myself a little better than the gal next door that has never had any type of training. :) But, it has also made me wiser and more cautious to the world around me.
The saddest part of all of this though is the fact that school systems have the need to offer this to the teachers - for protection from the students! O_o
Someone said the other day that a group of concerned citizens were trying to get it passed to where teachers could bring handguns to school.... we decided that it would NOT be a good idea.. especially on days like today - far too tempting ;) *chuckles*
Which brings me to my RANT! O.O

~~~ RANT ~~~

We were told today that a new "duty" would be started tomorrow at school. It seems as if a man across the street from our school has called and complained about children walking on his grass on their way to and from school. *blinks* Ummmm... did this man not look across the street and see this HUGE elementary building (that is over 1/2 block long) sitting directly in FRONT of his house when he went with his realtor to look and purchase the house??? These children are barely stepping off of the sidewalk and onto his precious blades of grass. The grass is not dead, just beaten down a little on the extreme edges of the sidewalk. Get a life, mister! He's the dumb@ss that didn't think about kids actually ATTENDING the school! geesh!!
Now.... my principal and her mission to bend over and pass out the vasoline has now ordered us to have "grass duty". Yes, we will be assigned to stand on the sidewalk - OFF of school property - and tell the kids to stay on the sidewalk and off of his grass. *blinks* NO WAY! I have already called the teacher's union and no can force me to have duty off of the school property. (She informed me of this *after* she stopped laughing.) Now of course, I'm stuck with deciding if I want to choose this battle or not... it will not come without a heavy price attached if I refuse to do this duty. I cannot be fired, but the principal can make my life a living hell... O.o
But the homeowner is a dork and needs a life, the principal is a kiss-up and we have to stand in the burning sun for 35 minutes to appease everyone else. Whatever happened to telling someone *NO* - tell the homeowner to jerk off and get a job or something! eesh! I don't like being told *no* ( as Denis can vouche to *L*) but give me a break! It wouldn't cost the taxpayers near as much money in taxes if someone would just say NO once in a while... *shakes head*

~~~ END OF RANT ~~~

So... I'm open to suggestions and input. I realize that I am looking at this situation with tainted eyes right now. (actually blood red) heh. Thanks for allowing me to get this off of my chest and sorry for taking up space in the room. :)
Jannie
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 05:54:21 PM
IP: 196-063.c.esc4.net

Hello all

Starsinger-Thanx for the e-mail.LOL . loved it.

Princess Mononoke- HEY EVERYBODY , CORONA JUST DEBUTED THEIR PRINCESS MONONOKE PAGE. No big wup , I know. Jada Pinkett Smith , Clare Danes, and......OH MY GOD , GOLIATH [Keith David] IS GOING TO BE IN IT , YAYYYYYYY!!!!! heh. sorry. Just wanted to share that with you all.

One question , is it going to be a wide release film , if so , please tell me where I can find all of the theaters that it's playing in , I MUST SEE THIS FILM.

THIS FILM IS THE GATEWAY , I CAN FEEL IT.

bye
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 04:41:23 PM
IP: proxy-353.public.rwc.webtv.net

*Valentine opens the door to the CR, reaches outside, and retreives a large soapbox*

Boy, if this post don't get me some hate mail, nothing will. I apoligise in advance for anybody (and there will probably be quite a few of you) that I may iritate, offend, anger or enrage by this post, but I'm feeling darkly philosophical and I wanna share.

I first spotted this whole war thing last night, but I didn't have time to jump in on it due to the librarie's iminent closure. Most of the comments have started with the premise that war is hell, and then moved on to discuss whether or not it is avoidable, nescessary, or just.

SJ><<Actually, I'm NOT losing faith in humanity. I am actually a non-secular humanist. I know humans are capable of the most evil acts imaginable. But I also believe that we are capable of such acts of beauty and love and compassion, that no other creature on earth can compare. I don't simply refute everything vile we do to animalistic behavior, yet I do realize that humans are deadly, and dangerous, and corrupt. The difference with me is that I don't believe humans will always be that way; it may take us centuries, millenia, millions of years, but we will overcome those base impulses.>> Never gonna happen. Hate to tell you this, old sport, but we're gonna have war everlasting. By the time Washington D.C. is an archeological dig, the killing of Man by Man for Man will continue. It's face may change a bit, but war is permanent It's a part of what make's us human.

As humans, we have certian core beliefs and goals that are immutable. We are driven to accomplish, and as a result, we have the pyramids, the brooklynn bridge, America, the Magna Carta(sp?), the countries of europe, and a host of other wonderful things up to and including the light bulb and the self-cleaning kitty litter box.
We are driven to exert what we believe is Truth, and as a result, we have emancipation, America(again), Martin Luther and Martin Luther King, theology, philosiphy, and all the other things that make life worth living.

Because of these two ingredients of the human soul, we have conflict. I believe, with all my heart and soul, that something is True. You believe, with all your heart and soul, that the oppisite is True. Now, through reasoned arguement and debate, one of us will win the other over, find common ground, and resolve the issue, right?

Heh.

Men can come from a million differant backgrounds, and their minds can be instilled with a million times as many beliefs and opinions on what is True. Often, these beliefs are mutually contridictory, and the available evidence can be used to support either position. When this happens, the two sides dig in. They gather all available evidence to support their beliefs, and, when that fails to crack the enemy open to "reason", they beggin trying to flank their opponent. Irrelevencies are brought into the debate, other disagreements are escallated, and before you know it, both sides are straining against each other as hard as they can. every facet of life in which the other side intrudes becomes another point in the conflict.

Imagine, if you will, the jaws of a vice slowly opening and closing. When they are open, there is a disagreement in society, but everything is in accord when they close. Occasionally, a thin peice of metal is placed between the jaws, but it isn't strong enough to hold them apart for very long, and it soon breaks. Now imagine that a heavy steel bar is placed between the jaws, to jam them open. That steel bar is one of the all-encompassing "debates" that I described above; a debate that has expanded and grown until it dominates all other aspects of life. When this stage is reached, war is very nearly inevitable. It is physically impossible, as well as unthinkable, for either side to back down. They have spent so long building up tension, trying to reason and convince the other side, that the debate has ingrained itself and killed all hopes for removal.
So how do you get rid of the bar? You take a hammer and break it. And that hammer is War.

War, as I see it, is one of the few avenues to finding true resolution. Not appeasment, not compromise, but RESOLUTION. Without the civil war to force the south to end slavery, I firmly believe that slavery would still exist in America. After the civil war, the south was FORCED to accept something that they disagreed with to the point of bloodshed, and in the long run, the majority of them realized that they had been wrong.
Without the conflict, the fighting, the bloodshed, and the heroism and villiany of warfare to break down pride, conflict can never end. Therein lies it's usefullness.

As to the arguement that appeasment or compromise should be what we aim for, I respectfully disagree. If Truth exists at all, and I believe that it does, than compromise is, at best, an injustice. It is sometimes just as vital an injustice as war, but an injustice it remains. That doesn't mean that we should all go nuts against everyone we disagree with, but it does mean that we should be able to recognize when an issue can be broken with the vice alone, and when the only recourse is the hammer. After reaching that realization, everything in your power should be done to avoid it and prove yourself wrong.

*Valentine ducks the tomatoes and rocks that are flying his way, and checks his watch*

Ooo, hlfway through the day, and I still haven't started my schoolwork...:P I'll try to make another post today, but for now,...

*Valentine ducks out, closely followed by a hail of fruit and a pack of rabid wolverines*


Valentine the pragmatic Gunjack - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 03:11:23 PM
IP: 205.165.166.142

Man-eaters. In Tsavo, Africa it is thought that some lions find dead humans (poorly buried) and develop a taste for this type of meat. Interesting enough many of the males here are maneless.

As I mentioned before Lion King had little to do with lions. If you want you can easily pick that movie apart comparing that and how lions really. Great Animation, Great music, little to do with lions.
Draconis - [gathering2k@nycmail.com]
Orlando, Florida, Home of the next Gathering in 2000
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 02:51:33 PM
IP: 179-139.kua.net

Hi, guys.

Sevarius Jr: Okay, we've got a plan for G2K, if we both attend... And thanks for the lowdown on that Serkis guy, I've never heard of him, so...

Delphi: LOL! Only in America... but it DOES remind me of urban Norway.

Spike: Congrats on aunthood. Miracles... coincidences... Somebody up there is kind of a nice guy, with a rather morbid sense of humor, aye?

Jenna: Gotta have those Jackie Chan flicks, eh? Ever seen one called "Project A"? Really cool, set in Hong Kong around 1900. One of his best lines ever; he falls three floors down from a clocktower, and when helped to his feet, he states "There is such a thing as Gravity, believe me." Damn cool film, and Sammo Hong is there, too.

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.: You want to watch Jenna dance 'cause you have a thing for exotic dancing? *Scratches head.* Hmmm... weird, I want to see it 'cause I have a thing for scantily-clad women. But that may just be that I'm slightly nuts, or what do you think?

Zath: You visualize music videos with Garg casting? Fun. I occasionally do the same with crews such as "The Foes of Doom", or maybe "The Aliens of X-COM". Much computer games related, in other words. But I'm advancing to include Gargoyles as well.

Pissy: Alien Love Doll? Youse a sicko, mon. Youse a sicko. But I guess we knew that already. (Oh, and I noticed tha auction has ended. Was that any of you guys?)

Ironwolf: What I have heard about man-eating large cats is this: They've already been injured, often by man's own weapons, and are by that slowed down so bad they can't keep up with their usual prey. This being their inconvenient situation, they turn to prey they don't usually go for, namely humans. Now, considering this, one may ask whether it's the lion/tiger/whatever that is to blame, or the dumb@$$ who couldn't shoot straight enough to kill the animal instantly... and yes, I know tiger hunting is illegal, but face it, it still happens around in this world. Too bad, considering how few tigers remain in this world...

Tim P.: Oh, good grief, what a professor... "A cigar is just a cigar" <G> Maybe someone ought to tell Bill Clinton that line?

Coyote the Bando: Who gave me the less-than-polite replies? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they generally come in two groups: humans and relatives. (Hey, there weren't many, maybe three or four, over a decade or so, but still.) Trust me, the chance of a snowball surviving in Hell is far greater that the chance of you knowing them personally.
*Lays a hand comfortingly on Coyote's shoulder.* Sorry hearing about Ravyn, lad. But relax, ye'll get o'er it.

Draconis: Good to see info in G2K. I don't know if I'll be able to attend (in fact, I do doubt it unless I hit the lottery jackpot (or is that crackpot) before the event) for many years... *Sigh.* But, if I do attend, I'll bring along copies of my filks, etc. and, if I manage, I'll try to make a copy of the Apple of Eris, in honor of Christine's fic, whose name eludes me at present. For quite obvious reasons, I cannot take the original out in public.

The Bomb: There's been so much said here, what do you say we just drop the subject? ;)

Joe Boxer: Please, don't speak so loudly, aye?

Wilek: *Rewinds to the reading of "Off the wall at Callahan's" to quote.* I disagree with your statement that power corrupts. What engenders corruption is paranoia; the feeling of inadequate power. Total power renders one totally incorruptable. Think about it; with total power, what would there be to corrupt you? By the way... if sex is a killer... who wouldn't want to die happy?

Adrienne: So, you've read about everything Christine's submitted to her page? Maybe the fics in the Adult Archive, too? <G> Can't really blame you, but from my viewpoint, I'd say that her fics are uncommonly clean, despite the actual contents. And I know there are those of you who want to ask me questions; just don't, ok? Just don't ask.

Jannie: Your school system has mandatory self-defense classes? Oh, you lucky... person, you. Over here, the nearest do-jang (I think that's the Tae-Kwon-Do term) is a good two hours drive from where I study. Well, unless I drive with this slightly nutso friend of mine, in which case the drive takes about one hour. I wish I had access to a self-defense club myself. I'll just have to stick with private tutoring from a friend I see maybe once in a blue moon... but he is qualified to train people, and he does at present have a blue belt with one stripe in Tae-Kwon-Do. Oh, well, on the bright side, I can study privately from books etc, which ain't all that bad... I'm getting a sword soon (I hope, depends on the post efficiency), and I know there's a pair of sai waiting for me... then, all I need is the actual training. And, just for the record, I'm being trained in the non-terminal attack styles, like nerve point manipulation.

Ironwolf: Hey, I'm a Scorpio as well (29th this month, nudge, nudge, wink, wink), and I find the descriptpion of the average scorpio semi-fitting. As I do with all the so-called astrological symbols. You look for it, it's there. We just want to see it... uh-oh, I get a Matrix hunch again...

Ok, done with replies again. I'd Joyride, but my creativity is somewhat shot, since I'm too busy with my short story. But, I vow to ride again as soon as the story is away.

Later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 02:29:40 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMENT ROOM

sorry I was trying to do that thing from a certain Robin williams film and IMHO he is one of the funniest guys of all time.

Scar was not gay, thats like saying James from Team Rocket is and James secretly wants Jessie*sings*(A little bit of Jessica in his life)..I don't know about his biological son Nuka though

I have to wait two more weeks for my new window... my dad assumed that mr brother's windwo and mine were the same size.

Sunday night my dad and I are going to Last Gasp at Halloween Horror Nights, wich is good because we hardly do anything together.

Iron Wolf another Scorp in da room. What is the scorp profile again..I think I fit it and what is the profile of the Dragon?

Buffy and Angel were KEWL! last night but I have one question did anyone else notice that when Oz went to earch for Buffy he and this one girl echanged wierd glances and in the background those army guys again. can't wait for next week!

well thats all for now...((((HUGS the room)))
Spacebabie - [Spacebabie76@yahoo.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:48:46 PM
IP: ts001d39.orl-fl.concentric.net

*Valentine strolls in, leaning on a rattan cane and whistling cheerfully to himself*

Do you ever get the feeling that you have more fun when you're sleeping than you do awake? I sure do! Two nights in a row now, I've had hyper-realistic, easily followable dreams that rivaled my favorite movies in coolness.

Anyway, on to replies!

*Valentine starts scanning through the last few days posts, and then stops*

Eh, what's this? A discussion on warfare and concealed carry? Ooo, goody! I'll have to jump on in as soon as possible...
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:40:37 PM
IP: 205.165.166.142

Coyote- I gotta pretty much echo what Steve said. I'll keep you in my thoughts and hang in there **hugs**

Pist off-- thanks ^_^

sorow- LOL ! :P
jenna
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:34:01 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

[Comes in after a long night, and heads over to the chair where Coyote sits...]

Bud,there's not much that I can say that hasn't already been said. I understand how you feel... believe me, I've been down this path of life before. Time will take away the sting, and eventually form scar tissue over the hole in your heart...

The best thing you can do now is move on and keep looking forward. Trust me, it ain't the end of the world, though it certainly does feel like it. I can remember I went through this several times before I literally bumped into Andrea (my missus). So keep your chin up.

Love has a funny way of working; and it doesn't always fall into place like we'd want it to.

You've got many friends to help you, and I hope that I'm counted as one of them.

[gives Coyote a big hug]

Just ask of me, I'll be there to help you, bud.

Maintain and Check Six...
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:15:44 PM
IP: m95.ieway.com

Hey there Aaron ^_^

Wilek-- Thanks- ^_^
jenna
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:57:30 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Jannie Very good point about the gun issue though the reason most people hesitate is that they pulled it as a bluff. My motto is the only time you pull a gun is if you attend to shoot someone, you don’t pull a gun to scare someone off.

Asthma remedies I don’t know if you have tried any of these fleur but they work for me(though the best cure was removing myself form some of the things I was allergic to cats, smoke) Steam, alcohol (slow sips works better than an inhaler), Coffee (yea taste bad but I dose help) those are the top 3 things that helped me, and well you can always have coffee on you

Sex and death> some one once told me orgasm meant little death hmmmmmm

I have a question for the room. We did the Chinese zodiac and I do resemble my birth year. But what about the European?? Zodiac. How well dose every one resemble their sign? Sorry Scorpio just doesn’t fit me very well or at least I don’t think it fits me (and yes I do have a birthday coming up soon). I have a friend who is a Leo though and he fits perfectly. Just curious since there are no garg stories and buffy doesn’t come on till tonight in my neck of the woods only thing really to talk about. I'll read all the spoilers after i watch it

ironwolf
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:48:44 AM
IP: host-209-215-8-133.cha.bellsouth.net

Heather-- my sympathies on the braces- I had them too- my advise, do everything they say, even if it hurts. The sooner you do it, the sooner you can get them off. I had a terrible overbite and got rid of it in 3 yrs. They said it was a record! My brother didn't and he was in his for over six years, and we basically had the same problem. Moral of the story: use all those cursed rubberbands, ect. that they tell you too, even if it's a pain and looks dorky. The sooner the damned things do there job, the sooner they can be taken off for good! ^_^

Robby-- reg. Leetah elfquest pencil test-- I've seen it. It's beautiful! I don't know if that movie will ever get made though, my hubby has been a die hard elfquest fan for years, and he says theyve been working on it forever!

I like Pini's stuff, but the story seemed to go down hill after Kings of the Broken Wheel. Very sad, I think some of it was because Wendy was gone persuing the movie, and left
BTW is Princess Mononoke going to be a major theatrical release? And is there a website or anything about it that you know of? A link would be greatly appreciated.

More later-

jenna
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:48:15 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Moment of silence for Wilt "The Stilt" Chamberlin.



Coyote> (Hugz)

Robby> Well hopefully Jackal would kick his @$$ for dishonoring the species.

Wilek> A cut scene where Scar propositioned someone?!? Please tell me this is available as bonus footage somewhere.

Later.

Aaron wanders off, singing "Life's gonna suck when you grow up."


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:38:10 AM
IP: ppp-194.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Okay... I'm leaving for Fall Break at 4 pm tonight, so my Net access will be next to nil for the next four days. Just a quick post before I run to class.

Coyote> Oh, no... I'm sorry. God, I wish there was something I could say to make things better. Doug's right; you do have a lot of friends who'll stand behind you. If you ever need to talk... *hugs*

Heather> My sympathies on the braces. (Note: if they EVER attempt to file down your teeth on any appointment, make sure the guy knows what he's doing...)

All right, I must go meet with my adviser, finish packing, see if I can't get some TGS stuff done in the hour I'll have free... everyone have a good weekend, and I'll hopefully see you Monday.
Mandolin
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:08:53 AM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Good Morning everyone, I'm so glad that sci-fi has picked up The Sentinal, spent last night watching it and it is now part of my favorites. Seems like no stations around here ever carry the shows I like (NO UPN either) oh well, if there good they eventually end up on USA, TNT, SCI-FI and then I get to see them.

Have a good day!!
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:45:32 AM
IP: 216.190.241.195

For those of you not keeping track...

16 DAYS UNTIL THE THEATRICAL RELEASE OF PRINCESS MONONOKE!

19 DAYS UNTIL THE PREMIERE OF DARK AGES SEASON TWO!
Robby
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:38:51 AM
IP: spider-wb042.proxy.aol.com

Sevarius Jr.> <<we screw, we die. We don't screw, we live.>> *grins* I would much rather die of an early age with a smile on my face ;)
Police killing criminals: I have many police officer friends and not one of them wish to ever kill someone. I would be very afraid if any police officer said that they would. In the situation of self-defense... if I had my gun with me this last summer, I would have not hesitated to shoot to kill. Each situation is different and must be evaluated to the best of your ability at the time of the attack or crime. Would I shoot someone for stealing my car? no... would I shoot someone for doing bodily harm to myself or loved ones? yep! I was left to my own personal defenses when I was attacked and forutnately, I paid attention in the self defense classes that the school system insisted that I attend.
I have a .357 Smith and Wesson and I know how to use it. ;) But, only as an extreme last resort. I was taught in my 'gun class' that most people are killed by their own guns because they are hesitant to use them when confronted by an aggressor. I won't make that mistake. I'm not cold nor heartless and I realize that there would be many after effects of such actions... but I would rather deal with those then lie cold in the ground. O.o

Taleweaver> ummm.. after reading last week's comments (yes, I am a little behind in some areas) I can only say that I'm glad that I'm not dependent on you to keep our country safe. O.O *blinks*

Toku> we bombed Nagasaki because it was like the headquarters of their military personnel.

Coyote> I'm sorry this has happened to you. I wish you well and that your heart mends quickly.
Jannie
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 08:36:34 AM
IP: 196-070.c.esc4.net

In the words of Robby:

VISIT STATION 8! VISIT STATION 8!

*BUFFY SPOILERS FOLLOW *

I liked this one, and found the revelation of the true nature of Buffy's roommate a very startling one. I had assumed from the start that she was a normal human, and so when we started getting all the indications that she was supposed to be a demon, I thought that it was just Buffy getting paranoid as a combination of her own exasperation with such habits of the roommate's (whose name I now forget) as labeling all of her food, borrowing sweaters without permission, and following her about everywhere with the influence of whatever demon was sucking her breath at night. Even when Buffy pulled the roommate's face off, I thought that it was just a hallucination that she was experiencing rather than the real thing - so to have it be revealed that the roommate was indeed a demon truly surprised me. And, like Doug, I laughed at the bit where the other demon (presumably her father) showed up to drag her back home. (I think that a lot of the humor of that part came from the juxtaposition of a mundane parent-child clash with the fact that the parent and child in question were demons. Sort of the same principle, in fact, as what I considered one of the funniest parts of Season Three - the bit where Spike was telling Buffy's mother all about his current love-life problems with Drusilla and her flirtings with Chaos Demons, and she was trying to offer a solution as best as she could).

And yes, it does indeed look as though Buffy and Willow are going to be roommates now.

*BUFFY SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:19:08 AM
IP: 216.87.46.22.dialup-stl.primary.net

**comes in wearing a sign on her saying " Please no braces."**
As you can tell from my sign... I'm getting braces in two weeks. It was suppose to have been last night but NO! My mom had to cancel the appointments. **sighs** In other news...

Coyote > **hugs** I'm sorry about you and Ravyn. I hope our conversation last night helped you.

Robby > Robby! **runs over Mr. DC and decks Robby on the ground** Hi! **kisses him then sees his hair** Boy, you are a Trucks fan aren't you ?

Scar being gay > As the others have said earlier. Kill!

Well I'm off to school. If anyone cares I'm making a Digimon based RPG called Digital Destiny. Here's the link to my page. It's not finished yet.

**gets Robby by the legs and drags him to a black telephone booth and throws him in, goes into the booth and puts a sign saying "Do Not Disturb" outside of the door**

Side note : I have been wanting to do that for a LONG time.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 07:13:17 AM
IP: 98ce03bd.ipt.aol.com

Hei, y'awll!

Draconis- WHat about Dian Fossey? *stands ready ta defend her heroine*

Lion King Hoopla- Uhm.....Scar being gay....how did this woman substantiate that, exactly? ..wierd.

Oh, yes..... Guess what? (rant) Bein' 15, I've been forbidden to see American Beauty because it contains dysfunctionality and sex...... which annoys me, seeing as I've read nearly everything of Christine's (that she puts on her page, that is) so it shouldn't be *too* bad.... but I can hardly tell me parents that, can I? :P.

Well, Au reviors! :)
Adrienne. :) - [beowulf2@pacbell.net]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 01:53:31 AM
IP: adsl-216-103-53-143.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

I almost fell out of my chair last night when I heard the Timedancer theme coming from the TV. :) Turns out it was a promo for some movie I've never heard of, but that was still *quite* the interesting experience...

Oh, anyone see Scooby Doo And The Witch's Ghost? I saw a few minutes of it in a store. Looks at least somewhat superior to the lame TV show it's based on. And the villain, one Mr. Van Ravencroft, looks an *awful* lot like Xanatos (and sounds an awful lot like SJ's dad)...

Warpmind> <<is that maybe that pc.ign.com link thingie that I for some reason seem unable to reach?>> Yup. IGN's been giving me trouble too. :/ <<By the way, who is Dr. Scratchensniff?>> The CR's former psychiatrist. He lasted...what, two weeks?...before jumping out the 30th story window I think. >:)

Jenna> <<I wish more cops were like Elisa and not arrogent a$$h0les!!>> Power corrupts, I'm afraid. There's a certain kind of person who gets some kind of rush from pulling ppl over and ticketing them. Although I'm almost sure there are more good cops than it sometimes seems. :) <<Well, things are better here on the personal front- my brother in law and I decided to bury the hatchet. so things are better here, and there's peace again. glad..hopefully this is the end of the trouble we've been getting lately.>> I'm very glad of that. :)

Delphi> Heh...humans are an illogical bunch, no? :)

Spike> <<John and his wife adopted a baby boy -- exactly eight years to the DAY he was diagnosed with leukemia.>> Wow... :D Congratulations!

Deuce> Book Of Ladner> <blink> Okay... And beautiful poem. :)

Aaron> <<Weird Creativity Demon: Evil Dead Four: Ash vs. The Blair Witch.>> <MUHAHAHA> Oh how I love this. >:) Heh...much as I admire Ash, this round would probably go to Elly K unless Chainsaw Boy tripped over a spell of banishing or something--Miss Kedward is a ghost (A witch's ghost...Hm...), and I doubt that cybermechanical chainsaw, kewl as it is, is a fetish weapon...

Oh, speaking of which, check out my name link. Heh heh heh...

Pistoff> DC torment> OH YE *GODZ*. THAT WAS SICK. THAT WAS TWISTED. THAT WAS EVIL. THAT WAS HORRIBLE. THAT WAS WARPED. THAT WAS DISGUSTING. OH HOW I LOVED IT. >8) Dumb customers> Living disproof of the theories of Darwin...Alien Love Doll> <shudders violently> The Republic of Phaelon isn't gonna like this... :P

Tim P> Lion King, racist...?! PLEASE. I agree, this idiot was rather easy on the top shelf. <<the villin was difigured with a scar, so he was named Scar.>> Heh heh heh...if only she knew...

$Doug> You got to kill baseball players? I'm jealous. >;D$

SJ> $<<I feel really bad about poor Wilek. I think he was just waiting for me to get off my lazy ass.>> You needn't worry, friend; patience is my middle name. :) (Actually I don't have a middle name, but you know what I mean. :P Hm, maybe I should choose a middle name?) Besides, it's not your fault; RL happens. :)$ <<scientists have actually linked sex with death. Apperently, hormones released by the use of the reproductive organs actually causes the aging process. They did a test with worms; they halted the hormone process, and the worms lived 60 percent longer than normal. So there you go--we screw, we die. We don't screw, we live.>> Sex kills? <chilling maniacal laughter> Oh, I shall never stop laughing... >8) (Hm...this might explain something I've been wondering about...)

Christine> <<"Blood of the Jedi", a cheery tale in time for Halloween.>> A Star Wars horror fic...from Christine herself? <gasp> This is gonna be *good*... 8)

Fleur> <<my idiot chemistry lecturer who decided to do an experiment in the lecture hall and gassed us all out. I ended up leaving the room and um, literally coughing my guts up.>> AAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCKKKK! What kind of idiots are running our schools anyway?!!

Robby> <<an article about a woman who trashed it for Scar being gay>> ...KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! AN ORGY OF VIOLENCE! AN ORGY OF VIOLENCE! AN ORGY OF VIOLENCE! AN ORGY OF VIOLENCE! <blink> I'm OK. Really. Heh...the issue wouldn't have come up if Disney had left in the scene where Scar propositioned either Nala or Sarabi (forget which). And what about Scar's two biological children?

Joe Boxer> Welcome! :D Prepare to have your sanity sooked by one of our co-administrators. <<PLEASE don't MOCK ME IF I SAY SOMETHING UNORTHIDOX.>> You needn't worry; except for the apparent caps lock problem, you're doing extremely well. :)
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 01:13:03 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

HELLO PEOPLE! I'M A NOVICE AT THIS SO PLEASE don't MOCK ME IF I SAY SOMETHING UNORTHIDOX. ACTUALLY, I'M IN HERE BECAUSE SOROW IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT YOU GUYS. I JUST THOUGH I'D DROP IN AND GET A START ON JOINING THE CREW.

SOROW> NOW THAT I'M ONLINE, WILL YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR NAME MEANS?
JOE_BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:17:26 AM
IP: spider-wc061.proxy.aol.com

Skippy>> Strangely enough, I can picture a horde of Klingons being right at home at Trail Dust. I just can't imagine them line-dancing....
--Spike

<< And now a word from your resident Klingon culture expert>>

Well Spike, Klingons do dance and we dance very well actually. But you are quite correct about us not doing the Achy-breaky. It all stems back to an incindent on Billyjoebobis IX. Divison of Klingon warriors were wrecking havok through the population in a massive Cotton-Eye Joe manuver when the resisting natives unleashed the hideous mutant tribble-oid known as Billy Ray Cyrus. It's ungodly noise made even the most ardent battle hardened warrior cringe and go searching for his mommy. Despair set across the battlefield. Thousands of warriors lost their lives trying to escape the noise by blowing their ears off with disruptors.
The terror of the Mutant Tribble Cyrus was ended by the efforts of Brakton the Heavy. His brilliant stratagey of positioning his battle cruiser directly over the Abomination and dropping it on him may have saved the Klingon people from total obliteration.

Of course rumors still fly about, Klingon High command has investigated many claims of Cyrus sightings. The persisting legend of the Abomination traveling back to 20th Century Earth and becoming a popular musician. Despite the rash of claims, there is no evidence to support such a creature exists on ancient Earth.
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:11:20 AM
IP: uv1-48.ultravision.net

**RObby enters, and kills Dis Connect**

That was for not letting me on when Heather was on! And for making my color ink cartridge run out of ink right before it finished printing a page I've spent the last week computer coloring... And then not letting the colors come out right! Grr...

Anyhow,other than that, I got a haircut today... I'm now a match for Dragonball Z's Trunks, except my hair isn't white. Not going to be either except for about three days. (Unfortunatley I can't find anything impermanent, the best I an do is use a crayon like thing that should wash out in under a week...)

WB commercials- THese things are just great, about as good as Cartoon Networks. The only flaw they suffer from is that they basically are only mixing three licences right now, whereas Cartoon Network at times mixes up a good half dozen per commercial. (The Mystery Machine versus the Mach Five anyone?) My particular fave is still the one where Bruce sings the Jigglypuff song..

Delphi- That only in America number eight thing with the hotdog packages and hotdog bun packages has an explanation. Marketing. By selling hot dogs in packages of 10 and buns in packages of eight, the theory is to balance it out, someone will buy an entire extra bag of buns to finish off the two hotdogs remaining, and then they'll but extra hotdogs to finish off the buns. It balances out so that you have to buy 10 packs of buns and 8 packs of hot dogs to balance. Me? I just eat the spare hotdogs or make a regular sandwhich out of the buns. (Of course, the great Wally Lama on ANimaniacs did not know this...)

Spike- I have quite fond memories of reading Despair and Deliverance the first time... It killed most of my Saturday and an entire pizza before I was done, but it was a great piece of work. (ANd your AVery series by the way is one of the few fanfic series I actually have saved outside of TGS.) Nice to know the man it was written in tribute to is doing so well.

Jenna- Animated bellydances... Just wait until the Elfquest movie gets here. I've seen the pencil test of Leetah's belly dance, and it looks fantastic. (Of course, the sequence was drawn by Wendy Pini, the greatest comic book artist of all time, so there was never really any question about that...)

Aaron- If Mononoke doesn't come to San Antonio, I'm making the trip to see it regardless of where it is. I'm in.

Pistoff- I can;'t wait to see Vinnie's story, being the numero uno Vinnie fan around... (HEck, the main villain in my fanfic series is named Vincent... Of course, I didn't know what Vinnie's name was when I created the guy... Wierd huh?)

Tim P.- Lion King racist? Actually, this reminds me. I have a scrapbook of Lion King clipping. Including promotional art, SIskel and Ebert's review, articles on it, advertisements, lots of stuff. I have an article about a woman who trashed it for Scar being gay and the hyenas being poor urban blacks who will do anything for food, and the female characters being poor role models... Oii.. Wierdos.

Haloween gargoyles? Hmm, I have a scanner now, I may just need to participate...

Sudden odd creativity demon... Jackal, the ever loving cybernetic psychopath from Gargs, meets Jackalman, the cowardly and whiny jackal guy from Thundercats...

Hmm, that looks like about it for now so...

**RP HERE!**

The group works their way towards where Sevarius Senior is being held captive, when one of the walls begins to melt and form into something. Within moments, the form of Phalanx Prime can be clearly seen. As it stands there, it soaks up everything around itself. Walls, floor, plants, anything. And as a result it grows bigger and stronger constantly. The phalanx speaks.
"Such a pity. You've all come so far, only to die."
Sevarius Junior looked at the script and whispered to Black Tiger.
"Hey um, the script says we're about to get our butts kicked for a while again. How about we save ourselves some trouble and just pull out our biggest guns now?"
"Meaning?"
"Start having Jim's clone form a spirit bomb now, and we'll use it as soon as its ready."
"No can do. We can't use a genki dama here."
"Why not? Too enclosed a space?"
"No, more than that... To create a genki dama requires everything on Earth to give some of its energy. And since we just made one recently to fight the cyber smurf, that extra bit of givable energy is gone from the world for now. There needs to be at least two or three weeks to recover."
"ANd if we *WERE* to use it now?"
"Everything on Earth would die."
"Lovely." SJ turned towards the growing Phalanx Prime, and gritted his teeth. "All righty, its time to get our butts kicked..."

Robby
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:00:21 AM
IP: spider-tp072.proxy.aol.com

Hi all!

**SHAMELESS PLUG**
'Games' has been posted. Go read, go read!!
*THIS HAS BEEN A SHAMELESS PLUG!!**

For all those who might be wondering: the asthma's getting better, except for my idiot chemistry lecturer who decided to do an experiment in the lecture hall and gassed us all out. I ended up leaving the room and um, literally coughing my guts up. Not fun.

Coyote> Oh man. I'm so sorry. *Big hug* Deuce's poem put in words exactly what I could never say properly. I'm here for you, my friend.

SJ> Hugh Jackman? He was the Gaston in the stage version of Beauty and the Beast and I've liked the guy ever since. *frowns* Wait a minute.. as _Wolverine_?? *frowns* Can't say I can picture him in that role. I'm no Wolverine expert but I don't think Hugh's the right person to play him. Of course, I could be wrong. (I often am.)

Wilek> >"This isn't a cold, it's a siege"< hehe, I like that one. :) $Thanks heaps for the info on the RP$

Warpmind> Would I kill somebody in self-defense? Tough question. I'd like to think that I would only stop them by knocking them out or something, but if somebody _did_ attack me, who knows? Maybe I'd find myself in a situation where, if I didn't kill them, they would kill me. In that case, I'd want them to die before I did.

Delphi> *L* Good list.

Spike> Congratulations on becoming an aunt, and even bigger congratulations to your brother-in-law.

Deuce> *grin* thanks for killing Sli Sludge for me.

Pistoff> *blinks* What scares me is that somebody wants to buy that thing. :)

Tim> Your history teacher sounds like a twit. Although I partly agree with the Pochahantas thing, only because Disney completely screwed up what they dared to tout as a 'true' story. (John Smith was married to somebody else and in his fifties, and he and Pochanatos were only friends. And she didn't stay happily in her home country - she got dragged back to England and married some other guy.)

TTFN!
**YES, IT'S A RP!! BUT ONLY A SHORT ONE!!**
Fleur overhears SJ talking, to himself it would appear, and frowns, until a trio of Phalanx drones interrupt her thoughts by trying to kill her. By the time she has finished them off, SJ seems completely normal.
**END RP**
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:53:29 PM
IP: cow.cc.monash.edu.au

Coyote> On behalf of everyone here, I've got a poem for ya. (credit Katie Senger)

I won't say, "I know how you feel",
Because I don't, I've never been through the same thing.
I won't say, "Get over it!"
I know you never will.
I'm not going to tell you to "move on",
Because there's no reason for you to, until you're ready.
I'm not going to tell you how to live,
I'm not you.
I'm not going to tell you to "forget her",
I know you never will.

I will say, "I'm there for you, Anytime, Any where"
I'll be by your side whenever you need a friend,
Whether it be a shoulder to cry on,
Or an ear to listen to you.

I'll be there.
Deuce
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:31:20 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Media coverage of Godiva > uh, that might be exactly the wrong sort of attention ... ; )

Pistoff > okay, send it when you can.

Spike > that is great news; I am happy for your family!

Fanfic progress > began work on "Blood of the Jedi" last night, a cheery tale in time for Halloween. Next up after that will be "The Boy with the Healing Hands."

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:22:26 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Well, things are better here on the personal front- my brother in law and I decided to bury the hatchet. so things are better here, and there's peace again. glad..hopefully this is the end of the trouble we've been getting lately.
jenna
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:45:02 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-92-198.hstntx.swbell.net

***BEGIN RP***
Sounds of the skirmish reached Dr. Anton Sevarius as he rested in his laboratory. After several days....that turned into weeks...of working on the Phalanx virus, he was spent and in dire need of a long rest. The sounds of the battle brought him to attention, however. "What is that? What is going on?" he asked.
A Phalanx drone, as emotionless as the rest of its kind, addressed him. "It is nothing to concern yourself with doctor."
"Like the bloody hell it isn't. What is all of that dreadful noise?"
"What is it?" a harsh yet familiar voice called out. "It's the end of you and your pathetic bloodline."
Dr. Sevarius turned to see Phalanx Prime, the leader of the Phalanx forces. The hooded techno-organic being stormed up to him. "Prime..."
"What you are hearing is the sound of your son, and his friends in the Resistance, valiantly fight their way into my little sanctuary. It all comes down to this. When they arrive, I will kill them. And you. And then I will unleash the Phalanx virus upon the world, and turn this wretched, poor excuse for a planetary sphere into the central node of the Phalanx collective." He sighed. "It will be beautiful."
"You're mad."
Prime laughed deeply, a sound like metal screeching. "Look who's calling who names."
***PAUSE RP***

LOTR stuff: I'd like to give everyone the heads up on a cool little thingie I found on the net. Click on the link of my name to get some glimpses of the town of Bree, as it will appear in the movie. Looks like a typical old British village to me....but now it's a part of Middle-Earth!

Warpmind: Hmm, good points about religion/morals/laws. They have been used for less-than-noble purposes, unfortunately far too often :(. Still, to be an eternal optimist on this subject, I believe that the noble reasons behind those institutions...behind any institution with good intentions...can be perverted and corrupted by man. I don't refute the statement that humans are twisted....I just believe we can overcome that and we will one day. I guess you gotta take the good with the bad...or the bad with the good in that case.

Another good question about the self-defense issue. I'd like to believe I'd never be in a situation where I'd have to kill to save my own life, but then again I do want to enter law enforcement, so it is an issue I might have to deal with at some point. I'd also like to think that, say, if I was in a particular situation, I'd try to disable rather than kill an opponent. But situations are different, and keeping cool in a potentially deadly situation is not easy, to make the understatement of the year.
I often feel a sympathy with police officers who may kill in the line of duty. They aren't in a "win" situation to begin with. On the one hand, they could get killed. On the other, either they make a mistake and kill someone they need not, or they do kill someone and get sued on claims of police brutality. But how many people can honestly say they wouldn't pull the trigger if they see someone coming their way with a gun or a knife or etc.? Take for example the cops of New York. There have been several cases, some quite recent, of people in arms because the police unloaded their clips in a perp attacking them. I think of a recent case where a insane man attacked and bludgeoned one police officer with a hammer, and the injured officer's partner promptly unloaded his entire clip into the man. The man's mother tried to sue the department, I think. When you're in a situation like that, can you honestly shoot just to disable? Most people, I think, even police officers or possible even military soldiers, would do what the cop did and just pull the trigger until the gun's empty. Killing in self-defense is a very difficult subject. One can say that they wouldn't try to kill in self-defense, but it's a different thing altogether when placed against a real threat. The drive for survival is incredibly strong.

Doug: Don't worry, I'm getting back into the RP tonight. Sorry about the delay. I feel really bad about poor Wilek. I think he was just waiting for me to get off my lazy ass. *sigh* hope I can make it up to you all for the stall.
Glad you agree about Senator McCann. As with any political race, it's not really a matter of who's "best" for the job, but more of a matter of who's not gonna be the biggest pain in the booty while they're in office ;) Interesting choice in baseball teams, though. Glad you didn't choose the Red Sox....the Phalanx would lose too easily with them on their side (sorry, that was an unnecessary slam against the much-maligned Red Sox. But the Sox fans are used to some ribbing by now ;)

Tim: Wow! That teacher sounds harsh!! Lion King, racist?? I've heard the Pocahontas argument many times, but that ones new. I mean, often Disney could get blamed for historical inaccuracies (wasn't the real Pocahontas like, 12? And the real John Smith like, in his 40s? I don't recall them involved in a love affair. He sure didn't sound/look like Mel Gibson either! ;), but I don't really believe Disney is racist. I feel for you, man. Sounds like a whole bunch of PC bullcrap you've got to wade through. Hope the tests aren't essay; no telling what kind of crazy stuff she'd want in the answers!

Ironwolf: Yeah, I learned about monkey-eat-monkey in a Sociology class where we were, oddly enough, studying why we eat what we eat (it was some funky stuff BTW. Never knew such a long thought process went into deciding if cheeseburgers are a cultural staple). All mammals eat meat to some degree, and we learned that some monkeys actually kill and eat other monkeys for the meat. I can't remember if baboons were involved...I think they were. Those things are deadly anyway, as deadly as any lion...

Sex & Death: I wanted to bring this up since Ironwolf was talking about hormones. I read in "Bizarre" magazine that scientists have actually linked sex with death. Apperently, hormones released by the use of the reproductive organs actually causes the aging process. They did a test with worms; they halted the hormone process, and the worms lived 60 percent longer than normal. So there you go--we screw, we die. We don't screw, we live.
On a side note, with the way my love life is going, I am scheduled to die in the year 3418.

A moment of silence for Wilt Chamberlain, leaving the mortal coil at age 63. I didn't like him much personally, but he could play hoops like no other, Jordan included. After my previous subject/comment, its a wonder he made it to age 63!

Evil Dead 4: Ash vs. Blair Witch--Wow, what a slugfest this would be! The sad thing is that Ash, God love him, is so stupid he'd wander in the Blair forest not to make a documentary but just because....well, he's a lovable moron. Spooky noises don't scare him though, and a bunch of stick figures don't pack the same fear punch as hordes of flesh-rotting zombies. I give Ash the TKO in the 8th round. :)

***BUFFY & ANGEL SPOILERS***
Buffy was a particularly good and funny episode tonight, although I'm sad to see Buff's new roommate go away before she could pester her for another few shows. Lots of funny interplay and rivalry between Buff and her roommate, especially the ending fight. Good stuff all around. Hmmm...perhaps Willow can be Buff's roommate from now on?
Good Quote of the Night:
"Toenails?"
"EVIL toenails. I collected them from the floor while she was in the bathroom. She thought I was asleep!!"

Angel was pretty good, as well. This show is noticeable darker than it's parent show...we never get to see fight an inhuman sexual predator. The show seems pretty solid, and I like the addition of soon-to-be-regular-cast-member Elizabeth Rohm. I'd like to see more of her relationship with Angel. Some good Batman jokes as well (a Batsignal reference and Angel trying to grapple hook the ceiling beam). Like Doug mentioned, they're doing an excellent job of building up Angel's human side. I especially liked his inability to communicate with others; it shows how desparate he is to relate, and adds some depth to his character (plus those miscommunications are funny. Angel to guy leaving bar in disgust: "I swear, I wasn't hitting on you!") I usually don't like spinoffs, but this is the exception to the rule :)

Plus we get a Buffy/Angel crossover next week! Starring Spike (the vampire, not our own lovely Spike...although that *would* be interesting ;) badder than we've seen him before!
***END BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS***

***RESUME RP***
As they progressed through the Sphinx, SJ suddenly heard a voice in his ear. "Hello, Junior."
"What?" the young scientist asked. "Who called me?" His friends just shook their heads.
"I'm in your head, kid. It's ME." the voice said. It was soft and melodious, but to SJ it was filled with hidden meaning.
"Oh." SJ said softly. He recognized the voice...it was that of the man he had met in the sickbay of the Avatar. The man who healed Kari. The man he made a deal with..."What do you want?" he whispered, almost under his breath. "You can't possibly want to collect now--"
"No, not now," the voice said. "But soon. Very soon. This is just a reminder..." And with that, the voice was gone.
SJ tried to stop the shivers he felt going up and down his spine.
***END RP FOR NOW***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:13:10 PM
IP: 207-172-121-219.s219.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

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Anonymous
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:02:31 PM
IP: dialup-978.hip.cam.org

**RP HERE, WITH APOLOGIES TO ANY FANS OF THE ATLANTA BRAVES**

The Ravens have managed to place a deassimilation crystal on top of each of the smaller pyramids and are now approaching the third and largest pyramid, with the third crystal in hand. As they get closer to the Great Pyramid, Phalanx drones continue to attack them and the group is forced to beat them off with their weapons. "Is there no end to these guys?" Tricia asks, lashing out to knock off a drone's head with her psionically charged flail. "They've made the Pyramids into factories for their army," Gubio replies, checking his computer for data on the area around them. "If we can put a crystal on top of the third and activate it and the other two we've already placed, we can shut them down and put a limit on the numbers of drones!" "Then let's keep going!" Kitainia shouts. Doug nods and they run on, stopping short of the Great Pyramid's entrance as they find a large group of Phalanx drones in baseball uniforms blocking their way. "It's the Atlanta Braves," Stephanie notices after looking at the team's shirts. "The Phalanx have assimilated a baseball team?" "It appears so," Doug replies. "Fortunately, this is the team that has gotten into the playoffs and world series on a regular basis for the last nine years and thus made me incredibly bored with National League baseball. They also knocked the Astros out of the playoffs this year. Therefore, I have no problem with beating them up." With that, he draws his nightstick and runs toward the Braves. One of the Phalanxed baseball players makes a rude face at him, and Doug takes the opportunity to smash him in the jaw and break all his teeth. The other Ravens back him up with their guns, arrows, ninja stars, and spells, taking out most of the remaining players. Stephanie also slices up the manager and Jaden buries his axe in the catcher's not-protected-enough chest. Soon the only Braves remaining are the pitchers, who try to overwhelm the Ravens with a storm of fastballs. Doug, Lathrop, Orion, and Kitainia use their nightstick, tail, staff, and mace to bat the balls back and clobber the pitchers with the resulting barrage. "Strike three!" Doug shouts. "All you guys are out!" The others share in the chorus of laughter and then run on to climb the Great Pyramid's sides.

**END RP FIRST HALF (Once again, I apologize to any Braves fans in here. I had my reasons for taking down your team.)**

Greetings. As I promised last night, I am now making a longer post. :) Today's been pretty good. I've been enjoying the new Buffy and Angel episodes (reviews coming up). Got a D on my economics test (sigh), but I also made an A on my Spanish one. :) Hope my statistics exam later this week goes well.

Fanfic Progress: I've been working on Control, it's coming along well. :) Should be finished by Halloween, hopefully. Please keep reading the other fics I have up, everyone, and send feedback if you can. Some of you still owe it to me (Pistoff and GXB come to mind). Not pressuring, just reminding. :)

Coyote: You're right, you do need to get back to WCC. Hope Team Delta comes out soon, any progress to report on it? :) Also, I'm glad you got a message from Ravyn, but I also feel your pain about it being bad news. <heavy sigh> I wish there was something I could say to ease your heartbreak, but I really have no idea what to, having never gone through a similar situation myself. I guess the best thing would be that you still have lots of friends (including everyone in here) and we continue to be behind you. Hope you get to feeling better very soon, and if there's anything we can do to help, please let us know.

Harry Turtledove: Recently started reading Guns of the South, so far I'm enjoying it. Ranks right up with Gone With the Wind and the North and South trilogy as one of my favorite Civil War books. I'll probably read the World War series after I get it done, maybe starting early next year. Turtledove's a great author, his work definitely deserves any prizes it's gathered. (I think Kitainia was thinking of someone else's work when she mentioned a series detailing a world war with magic involved.)

Roswell: Watched the premiere, hated it. I only stuck with it because I kept expecting it to get better. <sighs> It ended up being boring, with bad acting, predictable characters who didn't develop much, and a very uninteresting plot. Hopefully this show won't last. <fingers crossed>

Kaioto, Jenna: Good job on the continued profound topic posts.

Princess Mononoke: They're showing it early here in Austin as part of a film festival. Too bad Kit and I couldn't get tickets (sellout). Oh well, the theatrical release isn't that far off. We look forward to seeing it then and hopefully catching an inspiring, well-written, and beautiful film (it's been hyped as such, but then so have a lot of things this year that turned out to be c^*p, so I'm not putting my hopes up till I actually see the film).

Harsh Realm: I hope Fox doesn't kill this show early. The premiere was excellent. Great character drama, with nice action and acting as well. The plot needs some development, but that can be saved for later eps. It definitely has a lot of potential. I pray it stays on the air.

The Bomb: Not much I can say about it that hasn't been said already. I agree with the majority of people in here that in retrospect dropping the bomb was a very bad thing. But at the time it was worth the costs and helped win the war without destroying Japan. That was a good thing. I recommend that anyone who wants more info on the bomb and an exciting story check out Kevin J. Anderson's book "The Trinity Paradox." It's about a nuclear protester going back in time to sabotage the Manhattan project. Great charecterization and plot, and very well-researched. The ending stinks, but otherwise I really enjoyed the book.

SJ: $ Hope you and Wilek can fully get back into the RP soon. If you're wondering about the Phalanx generals Kit and I added to the mix, we currently have plans to take care of all but Prime and Hodge (we're assuming you can take care of those two). Whiplash, the chihuahua, and the rest will be dealt with in upcoming posts, probably all this week. :) $
I agree with you about Sen. McCain. Out of all the possible GOP candidates, he looks like the best choice for the reasons you stated. (Also, IMO, Bauer and Buchanan are much too far-right, and you know how Kit and I feel about W. We don't know enough about Forbes or Liddy Dole to judge them yet, but McCain may or may not be a better choice than they are. Any of the political people in here know for sure?)

Traveler: Yep, we know about college courses. :) Good luck with them, and hope you soon have time to post something more than top ten.

Christine: Congrats on finishing Elflore 1, hope we can get to read it soon. I'm also looking forward to your next fics. :)

Fleur: $ The Ravens and I are about to try to join Wilek inside the Sphinx. We just need to shut down the Pyramid factories mentioned above first. We also have a new team member, Gubio's girlfriend Erin, on her way to join us. Check the last two weeks' postings for details on her. $ Oh, and welcome back!

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR BUFFY AND ANGEL**

Buffy: Tonight's episode gets a 9/10. It had a decent plot (glad somebody had a worse roommate than all the ones I had!), with well-written dialogue and good development on all the characters. Giles was acting more like himself, too, and that was definitely a good thing. :) The bad guys were original (in the case of the demonic runaway roomie, whose conflict with Buffy was very well-done) and quite menacing (the other demons). The scene where the latter caught the former and took her home made me laugh out loud. :) Good characterization of Oz and Willow in this one, too (though not as much with Xander as there was last week). Overall, this season of B,tVS is still going strong. Hope it continues.

Angel: The new episode of this show was also pretty good. I liked the development done on Doyle and Cordelia. (The former needed some, IMO. :) The dialogue between them was especially enjoyable, I look forward to more of the obvious verbal conflict they've developed. :) Good plot and development on Angel too. I like how they're exploring his human side now more than just his relationships with other characters and his conflict with his demon side. Excellent action and dialogue as well (Doyle's line about violence is one I've got to use myself sometime, and I laughed a lot watching Angel talk with the girls in the bar). Kate makes a pretty good new character so far, hope she stays around for a while. It was great to see Angel getting involved with the police. :) The plot of this one was as great as last week's episode's was, and in some ways more interesting. It had a good flow. Well-done action too, especially in the fights with the body-jumping demon (who also made a cool bad guy). Overall, 9.5/10, nice ep.

Definitely looking forward to the big crossover next week with Spike as guest star. Keep up the good work, Whedon and associates! :)

**END BUFFY AND ANGEL SPOILERS**

And that's about all for tonight. Thanks for reading, hope I made some good statements. :) Hopefully I'll be back with another post later in the week, for now good night.

**RESUME RP**

The Ravens reach the top of the Great Pyramid, where Stephanie places the final crystal. She quickly flicks a switch on the side of its attached terminal, and immediately a diagonal beam of light comes flaring up from it and connects with identical beams extending from the other pyramids' crystal-topped tips. There is a flare of bright light and when it clears the Pyramids have become clear of Phalanx pollution. The Avatar Borg and Dalek forces sweep in to completely secure them, and soon any drones remaining have been dispatched. The Ravens come down from the Great Pyramid to meet Lieutenant Surge and Agent Rho, the latter present by holographic transmission. "Good job," the latter tells them. "It looks like we're going to win the day." "Are you all feeling alright?" Surge asks. "The medical staff is nearby." "I think one of those Phalanx things grabbed Janice," Tom replies. "Other than that and a few random laser burns, we're okay." "And I'm fine," Janice insists. "You shot away the tentacle before it could do anything." "So, in other words, we'll be okay for now," says Kitainia. "What's the situation?" "Well, you've just shut down their factories," Rho answers, "and we managed to destroy their missile launchers, so the Phalanx are essentially now less of a threat than they were. However there are still many around and inside the Sphinx. Wilek is inside the Sphinx fighting them with a team, but we haven't heard from them in a while." "We better go in to check on things," Doug suggests. "Maybe help 'em out too. Can you clear us a path?" Rho nods. "I'll have the Administrator devote some units to doing just that right now." The Ravens thank him and run off towards the Sphinx, to join the Daleks and Avatar Borg battling the drones surrounding it. Janice is about to follow them, but Surge stops her. "Here," he says, holding out a pair of Rayban sunglasses. "I was told to give you these. They'll be part of your uniform if you end up joining MIB like you said you might." The Ravens' former government liasion smiles and takes the glasses. "Thank you," she says, hurrying to catch up with the others, putting on and adjustsing her new glasses on the way. Just before they are covered by the shades, her eyes flash with Phalanx colors. Like a woman possessed, Janice raises her pistol and approaches her teammate's backs.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 09:56:47 PM
IP: pool-207-205-147-68.dlls.grid.net

VOTE NOW, VOTE OFTEN!!!

Here's the link for the Monthly Gargoyles Character contest. Voting is open for Superhero Gargoyles. Entries are currently being taken for Halloween Gargoyles.
Spike
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 09:18:02 PM
IP: ppp15-43.ght.iadfw.net

A few answers. First the woman that studied Gorillas and got emotionally involved. Diane Fossy, She was later murdered by poachers.
Lions have appeared to have killed out of hate. A lion was observed to run almost an entire mile just to finish running down the matriarch of the hyenas and kill her. This statement can be observed in the "lions of Darkness" on National Geographic.
Lions kill the cubs of other males they have removed then so the females will come in heat.
Lion King had little to do with lions. They just looked like lions.

The Gathering. We have a new email address you can see here. Also it looks really good for having a live Panther for exhibition as our charity. But I need you help. We are going to have a charity auction to raise funds and we need art work, manuscipts, Filk books, CD's or anything you think will sell well. So I am asking the fellow fans to provide items for this. Just send an email if you can.
The hotel search. Whew, this is hard. I think we are get closer to announcing where the Gathering will be in 2000. I have looked at so many. I think the one we will have will have a price range in the 60's. Just looking at a few more bids to make sure before we say one hotel is final.
If any new people here are interested in attending the next Gargoyles convention just send an email to our email address list here. Thanks.
Draconis - [Gathering2k@nycmail.com]
Orlando , Florida, Home of the next Gargoyles convention in 2000
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 08:47:11 PM
IP: 179-47.kua.net

**enters the room, pulling last night's candle out of his pocket, laying it on the table**

Okay, before *anyone else* says anything, I need to clear the air in public here. Rough as it's gonna be on me, it has to be done.
**sigh**
Last night, I received a message from Ravyn. It was longer than what I've summarized it down to, but basically, what it said was "it won't work out, now leave me alone."
**closes eyes briefly, then continues**
It hurts right now, but not as much as it might have. And for that, I have my friends in here to thank. Kaioto, Robby, Heather, JEB (lurking, I'm sure) ... thanks a lot for helping me through this crisis.
I'll survive. I always do.

Warpmind: Who's given you the less-than-polite replies? Just curious ...

Spike: As "Despair and Deliverance" is another of my faves among your works (mainly because it was part of the Lex/Tina storyline, however peripheral), I too offer my congratulations, both to you and to your brother-in-law.

Deuce: I sent ye an e-mail earlier this afternoon. I'm on IM right now ...

Pissy: Actually, it's now up to three auctions I've won ... though the other two aren't nearly as neat as the bus sign (it's a pack of the Garg playing cards and a copy of the boardgame.).
Re: the alien love doll: Sick and wrong ... and funnier than hell!! :)

SOROW: "Sugarbooger?" That's a new one on me, I've never been called *that.*
As you've seen above, I'm not the one who's given up. But I thank you for your prayers. That goes out to everyone here. As I was saying to JEB earlier this evening ... I believe Garth Brooks put it best:
"Sometimes I thank God/For unanswered prayers ..."

**sighs quietly, leaving the room. The candle remains on its side on the table, unlit.**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 08:29:23 PM
IP: modem4.i-is.com

I want PSAT to die! At least I won't have to go to that freakin' boring class anymore! Thanks to those who wished me luck. Though I didn't finish any section, I felt a little more confident than usual.

Jenna> Well, between me being the official CR Spanker and you being a belly dancer... we have a whole bachelor party set up in here! Guys, better let us know when your b-days are coming up.

Spike> Congrats on being an aunt! That was just beautiful!

Deuce> I can't provide a link, but usually Spike gives it for us.

Coyote> Awww, come on man. What's wrong sugarbooger? I have been praying for you for a very long time, so you better not be giving up on us. A see a spanking in your near future :)
SOROW
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 08:09:21 PM
IP: dll2b104-11.splitrock.net

I must get in on this discussion on the dropping of the A-Bomb in Japan that ended WW2. Two points, one projected American casualties resulting from a direct invasion of Japan was a million. The casualties suffered by the Japanese in such an event would have been much higher. Clearly using the bomb saved lives on both sides. Two, there would have been no Hiroshima, and Nagasaki if there had been no Pearl Harbor. The Japanese started the war with the United States, and paid the price.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 06:17:36 PM
IP: fltg2-ppp28.fltg.net

My World History Proffesor is nuts. She *really* scares me. I knew that I would have to put up with a bunch of PC Bullsh-tters when I started College, but she is waaaaay outta there.

In class today she talked about how the story of Aladin was "unfairlly treated" in the Disney Movie. I can't argue with that. So after class, I go and tell her it's because Disney wanted to make the film family friendly and special interest groups wanted it to be innoffencive. She then went on about how "Pochahontis" portrayed Native Americans in a demening manner. Hello, Native American special interest groups had their say on that one, too. She didn't like that there was a half naked young indian girl running around the forest. Hell, that was my favorite part. Then she says that the LION KING was racist! At this point I wanted to call her "a f-cking nutbar," but I didn't. She says "the villin was difigured with a scar, so he was named Scar. He had darker skin and had an accent(Duh! Jeremy Irons is from Europe!), and the Hyenas were different so they were ostracized(sp?)." So after listening to that twisted logic, I calmly picked up my backpack, turn to the door, and said, "Well, as Freud once said, 'Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.'"

I admit that I am not without any prejudices, but lets get one thing straight: I do not have any problems with any racial or ethnic group, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE LIKE HER!

RE: The A-bomb in Japan: War is hell, no matter what way you look at it. The Atomic bomb is a horrible weopon but it's use in World War II DID save lives. Even if we didn't use it, it wouldn't mean the cold war wouldn't have happened. Nazi Germany was close to building one earlier in the war, and Soviet Russia had it's own program that was sped up by spies in Los Alamos. Trying to find out what the past would be like if something happened differently is like trying to predict the future. The only thing you really know is what DID happen. Even then, the fact aren't always straight. Theorize all you want, you'll never know.
Tim P.
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 06:05:12 PM
IP: bn706-01.wsc.edu

Pistoff> I clicked on your link *blinks* Wellllll... at least now I'm no longer in limbo as to what to get you for Christmas ;D *snickers*
Jannie
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 04:57:46 PM
IP: 196-066.c.esc4.net

I think everyone is romancing the animal nature. I have seen good heroic animal behavior and bad evil behavior. Animals like people can be good bad or neutral. Mabey I am humanizing animals, and you could be right and I could be wrong hmm…. Naw I’m never wrong I’m male :o). I came across a report once that pissed a friend off. She is a big “don’t eat anything with a face” promoter, and believes that animals are these pure creatures of good sent by god (especially monkeys and apes). The report was about how cannibalism has been spotted in some tribes of mountain gorillas. Well she went ape sh1t pardon the pun. Her response was “it must have happened in captivity and not in the wild” I looked at her and told her the study was of them in the wild and was done by a group of neutral observers, and not one women wanting to romanticize the gorillas. (I can’t remember the real name of the ape lady off the top of my head Jane something I think ). Heck the only reason I came across the report (no publicity but who would want to read a paper the destroy a romantic view of one of natures creatures) is I was during a paper for my psychology class on behavioral studies of animals in relation to human psychology. Like all learning though you are giving the facts and form your own opinion. The only right or wrong that can be applied is in the facts themselves and never the opinion. Mine you ask? We are all animals just some of us learned how to take a step up, but we have only taken one step. Human behavior is based on a lot of animal instinct still. We buy guns to bare are fangs to protect our territory. Buy clothes, makeup to peacock around for a mate.

Speaking of which a new study (well its not new but there is new interest in it) may show why alcohol can lead to sexual activity (so watch those college parties). Alcohol raises the blood to the skin increasing temperature and causing you to sweat AND REALSE HORMONES. Yep they are thinking that with the impairment of the higher brain functions and the hormone release instinct takes over and the hormones trigger umm sexual feelings.

Cats ok mabey I has a little harsh, but I really don’t like cats so my opinion maybe biased
Bears I admit before hand this statement may be wrong (wolves are my forte) but I thought in most animals that hibernate the breeding cycle was very rigid. I have heard of the killing the young to breed again behavior in other animals (e.s.p. rabbits no joke). Of course most of my knowledge of bears is myth and folklore so….. Hmm I wonder if the human flesh thing is just a myth or not. You know once a bear or a lion taste the two legged cow they crave it over all other meat? Any one know? Just morbid curiosity. I like curiosity but yall can guess why :0)

ironwolf
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 04:47:05 PM
IP: host-209-215-9-54.cha.bellsouth.net

ACK!! I tried to post last night, but my ISP had some major screw-ups. I couldn't connect to ANY websites. NONE. Luckily, I had written my post in Notepad. I'll past what I wrote last night here, then I'll catch up on the rest later today.

But first things first....

*DC TORTURE WARNING!**

*Pistoff grabs DC, ties him up and places him on a table, then rips his pants off and lays his testicles on an anvil.

"This is for continually disconnecting me, and for what happened last night!" Pistoff picks up a sledge hammer and brings it crashing down on DC's balls.

DC's scream is pitched so high that no one can even hear it...but a few minutes later, several dozen barking dogs arrive at the door.

Pistoff drops the hammer and leaves DC where he is. "You'll just have to live with it, scumbag."

**DC TORTURE OVER**

Kaioto: <The inherent danger with doing anything nice for any of your
customers is that @$$ hole customers will demand the same service.> I agree completely. There was an incident a while back, involving the animal shelter. It's outside our delivery area--about 5 miles out of our area. One of our shift managers (the one I mentioned recently, the one who got fired) agreed to have one of our drivers deliver some pizzas there. The driver delivered it. (I wasn't working that day, otherwise the outcome would've been very different.) The manager later told the people there that this was a special thing, one time only, because they're so far out of our area. Well, a few days later, these people call back and want another pizza delivered. We were busy at that time, with orders backing up, and explained that we couldn't deliver to them. Of course, they blew up at us and demanded that we deliver to them. "You did it before, so you can do it again!" Sheesh! People like this...sometimes I just wanna stab 'em in the neck with a No. 2 pencil. :)

Speaking of @$$hole customers: Had another drunk dip$h!t call a couple mornings ago. He asked how much the New Yorker was.

Me: "$8.99 for just cheese and $9.99 for one topping."
Him: "What? $8.99 for one topping?"
Me (sighing): "No." I explained it again.
Him: "$8.99 for cheese and $1.99 for one topping?"
So I went through it all yet AGAIN.
Him: "Well...how much is your medium pizza?"
Me: "$9.99 with one topping."
Him: "$9.99 for a medium pizza?!"
Me: "Yes."
Him (getting belligerant): "NINE...NINETY...NINE? For a MEDIUM??"
Me (getting pissed): "That's what I said."
Him (smarmy): "Domino's has a medium TWO-topping for $8.99!"
Me: "Fine. Call Domino's, then."
Him (after stunned silence): "I'm gonna!"
Me: "Good!" I hung up on him. :)

Christine: I'm glad your computer's working again. :) I sent you an ICQ message about this, but ICQ has been acting really wonky lately, so you may not have gotten the message. Just in case: Due to a disagreement with Denis about a certain part of the Vacuum Riders storyline, some changes have to be made, and they affect the story I sent you. I'll send the revised version soon, possibly tonight or tomorrow night. :)

Delphi: LMAO! I loved those signs! :D I'm glad you're feeling better, too.

Jenna: Sorry about the run-in with your coworker. :( I hope that doesn't happen again. It's bad enough when customers treat you like $h!t, but when it's a coworker, you're stuck with her/him for hours. I've been there, myself (and helped get rid of one, recently. *cracks knuckles* :) *hugs*

Coyote: Ack! Another @$$hole customer... it's like they've been descending on us the last couple of weeks. Where's Duke Nukem when you need him? On the positive side, congrats on winning the auction! :D

SOROW: The Trio on roller coasters? Now, that would be a sight. :)

2000/2001: Heh, I started a fight in the S8 CR last year, when I pointed out to somebody that the millennium won't end until the end of 2000, not 1999. All I did was calmly mention that fact, and then jokingly say that we have a whole extra year before the world comes to an end--and suddenly somebody else ambushed me and it almost escalated into a flame war. I'm glad people in here are more reasonable. :)

Jenna again: Ack! Sorry about the incident with your brother-in-law. :( Man, you've been having a rough time of it lately. I hope things are improving now.

Jannie: So, you're a Buffy fan now, eh? *sighs* Well...nobody's perfect. *evil grin*

Zath: You...*were* wearing gloves?? Oh my god. *shakes head* This makes me wonder...why do they have people messing around with stuff like that? Seems a tad dangerous, to me... Hope you'll be okay. :)

Kitainia: I'm glad you liked the info about Vinnie's Story. :) I jotted down a few notes at work today (because there was nothing else to do, no deliveries, no phone calls, nothing). I figure it'll start when the company Vinnie works for sends him to their new office in Ishimura, where he meets the clan there...and they promptly cause him to get fired. "Can ya believe that?" *L* As for Injustice 2, there have been some delays because of Denis's ear infection flaring up again, and also the crisis I mentioned last night, but things are getting back on track. :) Once this stuff is finished, I *HOPE* I'll be able to catch up with the rest of the stuff I should've done a long time ago.... ;)

I wanted to say more about the bombing stuff, but it just gets me too angry. I understand that war is hell and it isn't fair, and all that stuff. But one of the things I hold most dear (alongside honesty) is fairness. And things like this just make me furious. Heh, who would've guessed that a guy as cynical as I am could be so idealistic. But I honestly believe that "Life isn't fair" is a cop-out. Life is as fair, or unfair, as we choose to make it. Injustice really pisses me off. I have a tendency to take it personally. *shrugs*

Well, on a lighter note, click my name to see something...well...heh, you'll see. O_o
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 03:00:44 PM
IP: wire-17.koalas.com

Angie> You think that's bad? Lately, whenever I hear a song on the radio, I start imagining a video of it with the cast being all garg characters. I think it all started when someone filked that song about all of Brooklyn's mates.

Wilek> <<Kitty reduces Ash to a small mound of bloody ribbons. >:)>> **evil grin** I'd like to see that, but since the CR janitor skipped town, we'd have to clean it up ourselves... : )

Aaron> << Evil Dead Four: Ash vs. The Blair Witch.>> Click my name for a classic ED2 line that could apply to your idea too. ( http://pazuzu.simplenet.com/sounds/movies/scifihorror/armyofdarkness/carvwitch.wav )

jenna> <<---hmm, dancing at the Gathering, hmmm.>> Just don't dress up as Godiva when you do it. If you did, you might be responsible for several deaths due to testosterone induced spontaneous combustion. On the other hand, media coverage of the aftermath might finally get Disney's attention and let it know Garg fans are serious ; )

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 02:13:32 PM
IP: ppp-223-160.usc.edu

Jenna> you can belly dance! wow!! that is certainly an art and I'm impressed that you can do it :) heh, Me? I'm more of the lap dancer type *chuckles* You're absolutely correct though - most of the gals at Ren Fest are NOT belly dancers. However, I saw a couple that it was obvious that they had training and they were a true pleasure to watch. They were also the ones who were more appropriately dressed! Anyway, just wanted to say that it's awesome that you know how to belly dance and it is very nice to see it done properly =)
Jannie
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 01:57:45 PM
IP: 196-066.c.esc4.net

Aaron-- no he didn't have any accessories-- just him, looked pretty much like him too..

Steve *Blushes a little* you know- that sounds pretty cool ^-^ ---hmm, dancing at the Gathering, hmmm..
jenna
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 01:44:41 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Well, a day off and nothing to show for it, except having rewatched Henrey V and being behind on the CR. Ah, me.

Mononoke Hime> I'm willing to bet "Limited Release" doesn't include San Antonio. Which is too bad, because SAAS was planning some sort of group outing to go see it. Maybe we'll have to troup up to Austin or Dallas. Hey Robbie, wanna come?

Has anyone checked out this month's Inquest? Its got some nifty info on the LOTR and D&D movies, and... a pre-beta review of Diablo II. (Drool)

Weird Creativity Demon: Evil Dead Four: Ash vs. The Blair Witch.

Warpmind> I *love* Life's Gonna Suck (When You Grow Up). I'll send you the lyrics if you'll mail me that list. Deal?

Skippy> Do y'all give the waiter orders for fried G'ahh and raw Targ hearts?

Jenna> Yeah, cops can be real jerks sometimes. I got off with a warning both times I've been pulled over, but having to kiss @$$ like that still rankles. I held off buying one of those "Bad Cop. No Donut" bumper stickers for a long time, but then I realized I already had one that says I'm neither human nor in my right mind, so what harm could it do? As for the Preacher figures, no I haven't seen them, but... Do I even wanna know what the accessories were?

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 01:29:35 PM
IP: ppp-80.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Spike> Oh, thank you so much. Now I'm almost crying, and I still have to check my email, in which there will be more to make me cry. *sigh* Little sleep plays havoc with my emotions. That was a beautiful story. Congratulations.

Coyote the Bando> *long hug* Do you need to talk? You know I'm always here.

Angie> Oh, wow... you'll appreciate this: click my name for something I did while NOT on any drugs whatsoever.

SOROW> ["Don't forget to vote for the Monthly Gargoyles Contest!"] Where? I'd love to vote.

Fleur> Welcome back! *hug* Good luck on your asthma... I know what that's like. *shoves an icepick into Sli Sludge's throat*

Scott re: Pokémon> Oh, man, I like you. That was damned, damned funny.

And I don't feel like going back any farther to reply. See y'all around.
Deuce - [ladner@curtain.cjb.net]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 01:28:42 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

SPIKE - Congrats to you and your Brother-In-Law and his wife!

JENNA - <BLINK!> Wha? You're a bellydancer and didn't tell me? <growl> You're going to have to make it up to me, me girl! I think SJ has it right! You're going to have to perform for us at Orlando! Say... you could go to the Masquerade as Salome and dance across the stage. :) Heh...

Sue me, I have a thing for TRUE exotic dancing!

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 01:23:07 PM
IP: m50.ieway.com

Spike-- *sniff* that was beautiful. Yes Miracles still do happen. ^_^

Ward de-- me?? Demona??? Ack!! -:P Well, she did always strike a chord with me; she does have a solid arguement, but she forgets gargoyles can do evil as well, and she herself is a prime example. Now there's someone with a cause who is dangerous as hell, Demona.

You like Jackie chan too? I love 'im!! Yeah, he's crazy, but I still like him.

Wilek (:P got the spelling right) <bellydancer, now that's something you don't see every day> **blushes** yeah, I love to dance-- :P

Servarus Jr- *bows* hehee!

One of the best dances I've seen animated that really captures a bellydance like feel, is the Prince of Egypt, when Zphorah (sp) dances at the camp of her father. The animators really studied the movements and such- it shows. Very much on the mark, very different from Esmeralda (though I do like hers) which is more jazz dance than anything else.

Aaron- I saw a figure for the Preacher here in one of the comic shops I go to!!! It looked pretty cool! Do they have them down in San Antonio? I know your a fan of the series, so thought I'd let you know.

Well, here on the personal front-- things are--well, not great. Mike got a ticket (god I wish more cops were like Elisa and not arrogent a$$h0les!! My brother in law and I aren't talking, more of because we just don't know what to say more than anything else. It should be four more weeks before he finds a place of his own-so this is awkward at best... :/ Keep us in your thoughts, guys.

Right now finding ways to distract myself seems to help the most..

I don't know when my fanfics will be out- by the end of this month- I can't stand the delay, but oh, well, RL..


jenna
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:11:58 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Once upon a time, I wrote a rather convoluted fanfic called, "Despair and Deliverance." It didn't have much to do with Gargoyles -- it dealt mostly with a minor character dealing his struggle with leukemia and how the other characters related to him. It was dedicated to my brother-in-law John, who is a leukemia survivor.

Yesterday I became an aunt again. John and his wife adopted a baby boy -- exactly eight years to the DAY he was diagnosed with leukemia.

Miracles still happen.
Spike
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 09:41:30 AM
IP: pppt06-166.ght.iadfw.net

Good Morning everyone,
here's another bit of humor:

ONLY IN AMERICA

> > > > 1.Only in America......can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.
> > > > 2.Only in America......are there handicap parking places in front of a skating rink.
> > > > 3.Only in America......do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their
prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.
> > > > 4.Only in America......do people order double cheese burgers, large fries, and a diet coke.
> > > > 5.Only in America......do banks leave both doors open and then chain the pens to the counters.
> > > > 6.Only in America......do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage.
> > > > 7.Only in America......do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.
> > > > 8.Only in America......do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.
> > > > 9.Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
> > > > 10.Only in America......do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille lettering.
> > > > 11.Only in America......can a homeless combat veteran live in a cardboard box and a draft dodger live in the White House

catch you all later

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 08:51:22 AM
IP: 216.190.240.7

Warpmind: I do believe that Andy Serkis is one of those "British unknowns" that Peter Jackson promised everyone. When all the rumors of the casting first started, over who would get what part, Jackson promised that certain parts would be more "high-profile" (such as the popular Ian McKellen as Gandalf), and some would go to "unknowns". Serkis isn't necessarily an unknown in the UK (I checked the IMDB, he does have a few films/tv series to his credit), but over here in America (I'm on the East coast too), people don't know him from the next guy. Hopefully he'll do a good job with Gollum's voice, but I'm pretty confident in Jackson's casting. :)

BTW, if I am at G2k, she's *definitely* gotta do a performance. Dance of the Seven Veils and all that! ;-)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 07:33:42 AM
IP: 207-172-53-31.s31.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Okay, this should be the last of these oh-so-dreaded long posts. I hope. Bear in mind that I am still attempting to catch up with the CR from last week... starting sometime on Friday.

Lord Of The Ring news: Andy Serkis as Gollum? *Scratches head thoughtfully.* Sevarius Jr. claims that on his side of the Atlantic he's unheard of... dude, which side of the Atlantic are you on? I'm on the East side, and I've never even heard a name that RESEMBLES his... of course, I also pretty much lack a personal life, stuck before my old trustworthy 486 playing old games as I am... Naah, that can't be it. Oh well...

Christine: How many rejections is it now? Somebody out there ought to wise up soon...

Wilek: Hamster Based Technology? Such theories scare me. Mostly because they're improbable enough to be correct...

Jenna: I agree with what you wrote about seeing other humans as inferior, thus being able to do awful things to them. A certain blue-skinned gargoyle comes to mind... By the way, I've actually been to visit Sachsenhausen, and a less known Czech camp called Theresienstadt (or Terezin, in the local tongue). Both places still had that hard, cold, unfriendly feeling to them. It was indeed creepy, and I think one only need to visit such a place to *feel* how sadistic Holocaust was. Or maybe it's just that I visited during the winter months.

Robby: Were the Americans right to drop the nuke? It's a loaded question still. After all, Japan was already brought to its knees by the war. The way I see it, the Hiroshima bomb may have been a necessary evil. Nagasaki, however, I think was more an act of "showing off to the gooks", no offense intended, how superior the American war-machine was. Actually, I have heard rumors that the Japanese forces were on the brink of surrender even before the Hiroshima drop, but that is just a rumor, and I have no way of verifying it. Most such acts of overkill often qualify for the defense "It seemed reasonable at the time". And just think of the man who actually pulled the release switch on the Hiroshima bomb; In the Nürnberg Trials (listen up, kids, it's History time), the soldiers prosecuted were told that in times of war, every man is responsible for his own actions. The guy who released the bomb over Hiroshima tried repeatedly to assume the responsibility for the mass deaths he himself ultimately caused, was denied, and eventually declared insane, after which he died in a mental institution. Does anyone see the symmetry? I sure as heck don't.

Deuce: Gee, tough luck about the party. Sounds like some of the dorm-parties that ran weekly in the apartment just below mine two years ago (well, year and a half). I'd wish I had one of those pen-camouflaged camcorders. But alas, they were far over my budget. Actually, what I know of is that were three broken-up relationships, two guys who got their posterior shaved, one guy who has lost his hair permanently due to a mix of sprays (God knows where they got those sprays), and five alcoholic shocks over a period of two years. I'm just glad I'm a heavy sleeper... but those years were hard on the neighbourhood, I'll tell you. So, pal, you got my full sympathy. Oh, and for the record, I never attended any of those parties downstairs. And for another part of the record, I have been drunk past the extent of my senses. Once. It was an experience that did not invite for sequels. Pretty much like, say, Holocaust. (Okay, drawing parallells between me being drunk and Holocaust may be a bit harsh, considering the many lives lost during the war, but heck, that Lumberjack's Guild were quite persistent the following morning.)

Zath: You're sick of how history-classes are full of pro-American propaganda? Heck, that's how it's always been. It's the victors who write the chronicles, y'know. Actually, to find a neutral history teacher nowadays... they're pretty rare, but I think they might exist. Only they're muted by the damn system. Just try to find a teacher who speaks for the native Americans when it comes to such events as Little Big Horn, or Wounded Knee, etc.

Pistoff: "REMAINS IDENTIFIED; POLICE BELIEVE VICTIM DIED" Oh, where do they find such extraordinary minds for police work? ;)

Toku Kaioto: The text on the bomb: Too true, friend. And another thing that's really scary: How many of you here would be willing to kill another human being in self defense? Especially considering how many "non-invasive" techniques that are both simpler to use and less harmful when it comes to immobilize an attacker? Think carefully about it. I'm sure many of you will be ashamed with the answer you come up with. I know I am. Oh ,and as for why the bomb was dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki instead of Tokyo... demoralization, my friend, demoralization. It is a well-known tactic that winning a war is not merely about who has the most powerful forces, just look at the British- German air war, where the Germans generally had superior planes, and the best pilots, while the RAF just had more really good pilots. You don't win a war by playing fair, you win by showing the "enemy" that you're a much bigger, more vicious sumbitch bad@$$ than they are. Thus not bombing the Japanese capital at once. Think about the last days of the war in Europe; Hitler was already dead, but there were still generals who kept up the fight. Armies are like cockroaches; you can cut off the head, but they'll still run around, alive and well, for days (then they eventually die of starvation. Fact).

Kitania: Stuck with all those boring word-professors, eh? ;) I know the feeling. My biggest problems in similar situations is due to the words of an old teacher of mine; "I'll rather read something that's short and well written, than something that's drawn out and mutilated for mere acquisition of extra length!" You might recognize traces of that idea in my fanfics? Few over twenty K in length.

Bimbos of the Death Sun: Well, I got the book a while back... I liked it so much, I'm presently expecting the sequel, "Zombies of the Gene Pool". Both available at Amazon.com, the Internet's Biggest Bookstore (non-paid advertisement).

Night Walker: 48 questions? I have seen nothing of the sorts. Please reattempt, as I am always eager to answer questions.

The Gallery of the Absurd: Sounds pretty much like what semblance I have of a social life... looks like it, too.

Oh, and Christine: I wholeheartedly agree with your idea of letting the two leaders of quarrelling countries lash out at each others, Queensberry-style. That might lead to a certain extent of fairness between people. Chivalry isn't dead. It's just *gasp* very *choke* badly *cough* hurt *wheeze* nowadays. But there are those of us who try to revive parts of the good old chivalrious codes. Pride without honor is cold, hollow, dead. Honor without pride is just plain old silly. When the two are combined, however, one may find some of the best traits these pesky humans can display.

*Wheeze* Finally done with last week. Now for the Monday's comments, so I'm entirely up to date!

Wilek: Nice points about every sentient being carrying around his or her (or whatever, we haven't really mapped all species yet, have we?) personal piece of hell. Now, I recall seeing a comic book where one of the characters was given a tour of hell (somewhat similar to Dante's Inferno, yet with a darkly humorous twist), and was shown various facilities, like the Recreation room, where there was a TV set, a SNES unit and 300 games. Of course, there was no possible way to tune in a channel on the TV. Then there was the aspect of "personalized hell booths", where the unfortunate sinner was placed in the most terrible environment applicable to that particular person. Hmmm... if I ever find that comic again, I'll try to have those parts of it scanned and submitted to my page. I can't make any promises, though.

Jessie Feff: What is this I hear about an Evil Dead game? Oh, wait a sec, is that maybe that pc.ign.com link thingie that I for some reason seem unable to reach? Hmmm... an Evil Dead PC game... I know a few people aside from myself who'll be *very* interested in this...

Delphi: *Coughs, then laughs heartily.* Great top ten list. I think I should adopt a few of those lines for the boring classes.

Spike: Heck, those bent lines were so minor, I can't even see them anymore. I feel kinda sad for Jason, I had to kick him out of the frame to give room for that oh-so-more appealing picture of Manxine. It's been three days since the framing (pun intended), and the picture is entirely flat. You gotta love them high-pressure glass picture frames, eh?

Jenna: Uh... you're welcome, and, you're welcome. Now, if I could only recall precisely what I said earlier... By the way, I agree with you there on the views on violence. I, too, love watching well coreographed combat scenes in a well recorded action flick. Jackie Chan is at the top. But news broadcasts from war-ridden areas of the world, now, that's where I prefer to turn off the TV. In movies, nobody gets hurt. Well, okay, maybe I was wrong to choose Jackie Chan as an example... he's got injuries in more parts of his body than I know even exist. But that's jsut because he's so damn hard-headed (in more ways than one) about doing his own stunts. Heck, he's happy to fall a couple hundred feet inside a container, with only a bunk bed to shield him from the impact, and he'll gladly hang under a helicopter racing through heavily populated city streets. He's a raving lunatic, but a skilled lunatic.

Hey, you, Ironwolf, male bears kill cubs for the same reason male lions kill the cute little lion cubs: to increase the odds that the females will come into heat, and thus be receptive to the new male's genes. And cats don't kill for spite; no wild cat does. It's only the domesticated cats that kill like that, and that's just because of age-old instinct, not out of sheer cruelty. They know instinctually that they should hunt, but when the prey is down, they don't know what to do with it, as it has a bountiful source of food at its human hosts. Domesticated cats thrown into the wilderness, though, pretty soon figure out what to do with their prey... or else they starve.

Doug: Congrats on the test.

Christine: Good thing Elflore 1 is done now. Now, if you could only find a publisher with some sense... Oh, and you got that Inspirations entry this time, aye?

David G: Responding to Robby's teasers with riddles sounds like a good idea. Or maybe we should PUNish him for it? I've got the perfect book for it; "Weedwhacking: 10001 ways to kill thyme in your back yard".

Coyote: Hey, easy, dude. It was an offer, not a request. Oh, well, at least you replied politely... I have encountered (not here, mind you) less-than-polite responses on similar offerings. Oh, well, that's behind me now.

Sevarius Jr: You say that through Religion, Laws and Morals etc. humanity is getting closer to noble behavior. Frankly, I think the exact opposite may be argued as well, just take a look at the so-called Jihad, or the Christian version, the Crusades... Oh, well, you do have a few good points, though. By the way... if we both manage to get to G2K, and Jenna is there, too, shall we bully her into a performance? :)

Jessie: You filked it in the CR? *Curses vehemently and creatively, with great stamina and versatility!*

Wilek: Your personalities never kick in? Well, lucky you. I've had a few occasions when I've had the Scholar attempting to explain the Baron's actions. Believe you me, it's kind of difficult. And I also realize I forgot one of the personalities, namely the Punster. I doubt I need to specify further...right? By the way, who is Dr. Scratchensniff? And as for going the janitor way, there's an interesting book on work-related deceases in maintenance jobs called "Deceases of the janitalia". Just felt like mentioning it.

Jaden: Nice work about the bomb and the US of A.

Here's a thought for you all: You know all those sci-fi shows where humans are the Great Diplomat, and the Bringer of Galactic Peace? Now, imagine you hold those shows and movies and books in your left hand, and then you hold the History of Humankind in your right. Now try to bring your hands together. There's something there that doesn't really fit, is it not? Just a thought for the day...

Well, running out of time, so I better finish this and return tomorrow, maybe. This is Warpmind de InzanE, with swollen finger joints, signing off from the CR.

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 03:35:57 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

****NO RP TONIGHT****

Atomic bomb-I'm not sure if the following is my personal opinion or just a bunch of random thoughts put together. When you wonder if the U.S. should have or shouldn't have dropped the bombs you have to wonder about may things. I've heard so many reasons...or should I say 'excuses'? I've heard that the Japanese were planning a new offensive to invade the U.S. or that invading Japan itself would cost more lives on sides. It's so unclear about what was going on back then, each history book that I've read has a different story about the details toward ending the war.

Look at the way the U.S. was, becoming the most powerful nation on Earth. Yet it still had many problems that we are only now beginning to address. When they were deciding whether or not to drop the bomb what do you think their opinions of the Japanese were? Not very high (remember the Japanese consentration camps?). They were tired of war and when they found out that they may have a quick and easy way to end the war they took it.

I can't say that they were right or wrong for dropping the bomb. Invading with troops would have probably costed even more lives than using the atomic bomb. I believe that the Japanese would have made the allies fight for every piece of land before they would surrender. They saw no other way of ending the war, so they made the best choice they thought they could. I could give you some reasons why they used cities as their targets, but I don't want to go into that right now and I don't like some of those reasons, their cold, unemtional, and...their probably the same reasons that I would have used if I had been the one to choose to drop the bomb or not.

Traveler-Where have you been? Nice to have you back.

Warpmind-<It is when times are uninteresting that serenity and inner peace is allowed to bloom> That's true and there's a bunch of stuff that I'd like to respond to that, but since righting that stuff about the atomic bomb, I've fallen into a deep thought/self-reflection type of mood so if I start writing, I probably won't stop till I've talked about every thing that has ever made me think. Let's just say for now that there is good and bad and risks in every time and thing.

Night.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 02:32:41 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Kaioto> <<Well said>> <bows> Wow, quite a compliment coming from the resident Sage. ^_^

Warpmind> Interesting multiple personalities there. Mine never actually take control, but boy do they make themselves known. Sometimes I can hear Celien and Unagi yelling at each other all over the Cathedral Of Asmodeus, and Teimek and Solomon (not Coyote's) standing there MSTing them (without their knowledge, otherwise it'd descend into an all-out war). O_o Top 10 List> Post it on your site, perhaps? ^_^ <<I better kick that cute little secretary around a bit to rearrange the information again.>> Your secretary's cute? You're lucky, mine's a big bug with a name that looks, when written down, like vaguely pronouncable phone static. (None of you want to see the inside of my mind. Like y'all didn't already know that. ;D )

Scott> Phone call scene> I love it. ^_^ It's actually quite ominous, and it'd make a great opening scene for a fic...

Jenna> <<I myself am a bellydancer for 10 some odd years>> o_O There's something one doesn't find out every day. <G>

David G> <<There's an urgent copy of the Survey of Current Business on my desk. If I don't get it processed soon, some guy will have to wait an extra day to read "Foreign Direct Investment in the United States: 1997 Benchmark Survey, Preliminary Results.">> Aiii...Documents with titles like that should be dropped on enemy encampments en masse during wartime--enemies in boredom-induced comas are so much easier to sneak by/capture/slaughter/whatever. >:)

Todd> <<one of the humorous WB commercials for "Pokemon" today had Ash capturing the Terry-Batman in one of his Pokeballs and getting promptly informed by the Bruce Wayne of "Batman Beyond" that his latest catch was *not* a Pokemon>> Ash got Batman into a Pokeball...?! O_O Disturbing implications, this...apparently Pokeballs don't discriminate on basis of species. Hm...

Jewel> <<Guess who *finally* found herself an apartment!!! Yup. I move in October 22nd.>> Kewl! Congratulations! :D

Fleur> <<I'm kinda in the middle of an asthma war (what I call an attack that lasts longer than an hour - in this case, nearly a week now).>> ACK! I'm glad it's getting better, at least. For illnesses like that, I always remember a memorable line from a commercial--"This isn't a cold, it's a siege". :) <<I'm going to go crawl into a corner and cough for a while. I'll let you know if I dislodge any interesting looking organs.>> Heh...ew. Where's the janitor? [Random CR dweller: "He ran screaming out of the room the last time you bothered with a DC/SS death. He was last seen turning in his resignation. You know anyone who likes cleaning up blood and guts?" Wilek: "Possibly..."] $<<What's going on with the RP? Somebody tell me, PHU-LEASE>> We're all in Egypt, at the Giza necropolis. My team and SJ's are at the Sphinx, trying to rescue his dad from the evil Phalanx and a huge shipment of our Borg is using its unique nanomachinery to disassimilate the place. The Black Ravens, among others, are doing something involving placing crystals in the pyramids that I am just stupid enough to have forgotten the details of. :}$

Zath> I just had a weird creativity spawn/epiphany/nightmare--Ash tries to capture Kitty in a Pokeball. It holds her for a second or two before exploding, and Kitty reduces Ash to a small mound of bloody ribbons. >:) <<Supposedly, some time early this weekend, 5 guys with knives walked into an apartment in my building, tried to rob the guy, and he had to jump out the window (2nd floor, 3rd if you count the ground floor parking garage) to get away. So much for that doors-always-open, dorm-like atmosphere we had been going for... >: ( On top of that, I think my camera has been stolen. It's been long enough that if anyone had just picked it up out of the kitchen by accident, they would have returned it by now. This really sucks because I really liked it and I have no idea what I can do, not to mention the thought of someone just walking into my home and walking out with my property!>> AAAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK!!! Hm...Do you still have any part of the camera? Perhaps the negatives of pictures taken with it or something? Perhaps a bit of voodoo is called for. >8)

Angie> Um...OK... This kind of thing is why Dr. Scratchensniff went the way of the janitor. Said he wanted patients who were easier to deal with. Like the Warners. ;P j/k

Coyote> <<As tears begin falling, blows out the candle's flame that has burned continuously since March, removing the candle and placing it in his pocket as he leaves>> Please, *please* tell me you haven't given up! Trust me, friend, I somehow know that this whole thing *will* end well, sappy as that sounds! Never give up, and never forget!

$SJ> <<where are we in the script? There seems to be a huge delay in RPs here. I can't make sense of it.>> We're still in the Sphinx right after having killed the scorpion thingoid; my response to Fleur contains much of the news. We're in the research sector, *very* close to rescuing Dad. :) $
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 02:28:46 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Warpmind > <<If you did filk that song, please e-mail me a
copy, hmmm?>> Ur, I did do a filk on it, but I haven't got a copy of it, since I just wrote it into the comment room of the top of my head. Sorry, man.

Christine > 'Kay, I sent you another email. :D

*************************movie review***********************
THREE KINGS (no spoilers) > Whew, just saw this movie and _loved_ it. The ad campaign makes it look kinda stupid, I thought, and the only reason I took a chance on it was I'd heard some good word of mouth. I haven't seen a movie this kinetic in a lo-o-ong time. The direction was just...inspired. I thought a few of the shots he used went a little over the top to the point of ridiculousness, but it's better to try too hard than not try at all. If you are looking for a really inventive picture, ignore the inane ad campaign and give THREE KINGS a shot. I can't guarantee you'll enjoy it, but you will see something totally differant from the usual action picture.
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Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 02:28:27 AM
IP: ctrts2-4.mrs.umn.edu

***BEGIN RP***
"Waittaminute. Where are we?" SJ screamed.
"We're in the middle of the Sphinx. In Egypt," Black Tiger replied matter-of-factly.
"No, where are we in the script? There seems to be a huge delay in RPs here. I can't make sense of it."
"You were sick in RL for about a week there. Then you acted like a bullheaded jerk and yelled about the 'Bomb' during the weekend," Kari told him.
"Dang it, there's a plot hole you could drive a semi through. Somebody fire the writer!!!"
***END RP FOR NOW, BUT THINGS PICK UP TOMORROW!!***

Warpmind: Actually, I'm NOT losing faith in humanity. I am actually a non-secular humanist. I know humans are capable of the most evil acts imaginable. But I also believe that we are capable of such acts of beauty and love and compassion, that no other creature on earth can compare. I don't simply refute everything vile we do to animalistic behavior, yet I do realize that humans are deadly, and dangerous, and corrupt. The difference with me is that I don't believe humans will always be that way; it may take us centuries, millenia, millions of years, but we will overcome those base impulses. Believe it or not, I believe we have come one hell of a long way; no matter what one might say to the contrary, this world by its very nature is *not* inducive to "good behavior". Survival necessitates violence, or at the very least a strong competition for resources (mutual cooperation would be better, but when has the hard route ever been the most desirable choice?). I merely believe that we are creatures that are able to overcome that and become harmonious beings. Is it easy? No. But through religion, through laws, through morals, etc., we bring ourselves closer to that goal.

I find the more modern school of thought on human corruption disturbing. I think we can all safely say that we are a violent, dangerous species. Dwelling on that fact, taking on a whole cynical perspective, I find subversive and defeatist. We will never be able to overcome our own shortcomings if we become so obsessed with them that they are all we are concerned about. I'm not saying we should ignore them; but even I, and I have somewhat of a fixation with the dark side of humanity, don't focus all the time on what we as humans do *wrong*. We need to look for ways in which to transcend all the vile crap we do and move on. I believe that we are certainly capable of that, and that eventually, though it is a long and arduous road, we will reach that destination. I'll admitt it is not easy to carry that belief, every time I hear of a driveby shooting. Or a teenage mother sticking her newborn in a garbage can on the street. Or a man who willingly infected his child with AIDS to get back at the mother. Still, I have faith that we will overcome that....when we have the sense enough not to committ such atrocities anymore. One day.

X-Men movie news: Well, they've replaced Dougray Scott, who was to play Wolverine, with an Australian actor named Hugh Jackman. Apperently Scott, who is playing the villain on the much-delayed Mission Impossible 2 (why? The first one didn't make any sense!), couldn't wrap up filming of the one movie to begin filming of the X-one. This is not good news....I mean, I didn't really like Scott in the first place....but do you realize that filming and production has already started? And they're recasting the main actors...I really have bad feelings about this film.

On the plus side, production on the Lord of the Rings trilogy began TODAY. Set reports that a bunch of hobbits were present. I'm already excited, and it'll be a year and a half, minimum, before we see anything on the big screen!

Harsh Realm news: Apperently, the much-hyped premiere did not do as well as Fox had hoped. I can see why. I found the premiere somewhat interesting/entertaining, but I think they have one heck of a lot work still to do before they can ever hope of getting X-Files numbers. If the show continues to disappoint, it may get pulled, a la "Brimstone".

Jenna: Wait--you're a bellydancer? O_o Ooooooooohhhh......hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
I'm sorry, I think I zoned a moment there. I'm awfully found of bellydancers. For the obvious reasons. ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:17:02 AM
IP: 207-172-60-204.s204.tnt7.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Warpmind: 'Fraid you're too late to get characters into WCC. It's already nearly halfway written, and I've already got over 400 to deal with, I don't think I can handle any more, but thanks anyway. :)

Scott: Heh, nice scene there.

Jewel: Congrats on finding an apartment. Hope it's a nice one.

Fleur: Welcome back, and sorry to hear about your illness ... I'm just getting over a cold myself, so I can sympathize.

Angie: **cocks head like a bird** oh ... kaaaaay ...

**sigh** I guess that's enough from me tonight ...

**takes a long glance at the candle. As tears begin falling, blows out the candle's flame that has burned continuously since March, removing the candle and placing it in his pocket as he leaves.**
coyote the bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 11, 1999 11:30:58 PM
IP: modem91.i-is.com

TODD > My favorite WB commercial is the one where Ash tries to capture Pinky and the Brain.


Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Monday, October 11, 1999 11:24:11 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Skippy> sounds like a busy weekend. Thanks for the plug.

Robby> obviously, I can't stop you, but you'll leave me no choice but to post more riddles to give everybody something to do while they wait...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, October 11, 1999 11:09:38 PM
IP: pppa21-fortworth19-5r644.saturn.bbn.com

Can't stay on long but I will say this... Would you people have preffered I actually included a teaser that had a cliffhanger, nailbiting scene that got at ya for three weeks? Cause trust me, I could have put up a teaser that woulda really gotten at ya. SOmething to think about... (And just because you're complaining, I think I may do just that next week...)
Robby
Monday, October 11, 1999 10:08:34 PM
IP: spider-wl021.proxy.aol.com

WARNING: A TOTALLY MINDLESS, UNEDUCATIONAL BUT QUITE ENTERTAINING AND HUMOROUS POST AHEAD!
Lex was Robin, huh? I bet he was quite adorable. I don't think it would be as hot as a picture of good ol' 'G' in some tight jean shorts(not too tight {don't want to ruin that beautiful voice of his}jean pants with legs cut off) with machine gun shells criss-crossing his chest Rambo-style and a bandana or whatever tied across his forhead to the back of his head; carrying a mean looking machine gun on his shoulder and wearing some groovy lookin' shades. "Oh, yeah, strike a pose!!! Flex those pecs!!! Don't be shy! You have nothing to be ashamed of, only something to be proud of! Oh, stop being so bashful... Oh yeah!!! You got it!(camera flash) Whew, lookin' good, Goliath!!!(camera flash) You've got it going on, baby!(camera flash)" Or him dressed up as the good Terminator played Schwarzenneger(sp?). Riding on his Harley Davidson. (sings) Bad to the bone! B-b-b-badd!!! Bad to the bone! (Goliath): "Asta(sp?) la vista, baby!" "I'll be back!" "Come with me, if you want to live!" (That one chic the Terminator tried to kill in the first movie): "Sure! I'll go with you anytime, honey, whether my life depends on it or not. You stud, you!" (Whoa, I can't believe I said all that. I'd better stop before I scare myself. I'm already half way there.) ;) Oh, yeah! I'm a "G" chic! Doodoo doo doo Doo doodoo! I don't take no shick! Doodoo doo doo Doo doodoo! Oh, I'm a "G" chic! Doodoo doo doo Doo doodoo! I don't take no shick! Doodoo doo doo Doo doodoo! A chic! Doo doo!! No shick! Doo doo!! I'm talkin' to you!!! (like James Brown)Heyyy Yeeahh! (Oh, dear I seemed to have scared myself. Don't worry I'm usually not like this. I'm quite a reserved, quiet, and shy person when I'm around people in person.) This is really the end. Bye, all!!!
Angie - [Goliathgirl5@yahoo.com]
USAMonday, October 11, 1999 10:06:04 PM
IP: dial176.b1.tnt4.wa.freei.net

Skippy>> Strangely enough, I can picture a horde of Klingons being right at home at Trail Dust. I just can't imagine them line-dancing....
Spike
Monday, October 11, 1999 09:36:57 PM
IP: pppt04-68.ght.iadfw.net

Robby> THREE WEEKS BEFORE WE GET ANY NEW EPISODES AND YOU DARE TO TEASE US LIKE THAT!?! Go get him, Kitty! **The small brown and white cat launches herself at the hapless CR-DJ/administrator, but having recently eaten, she is content to merely leave a pound and a half of fur on his clothing and slobber on his shoe laces.** Grrr, I knew I shouldn't have let her go after that guy in the computer lab this morning! ; )

Scary Stuff from USC> Supposedly, some time early this weekend, 5 guys with knives walked into an apartment in my building, tried to rob the guy, and he had to jump out the window (2nd floor, 3rd if you count the ground floor parking garage) to get away. So much for that doors-always-open, dorm-like atmosphere we had been going for... >: ( On top of that, I think my camera has been stolen. It's been long enough that if anyone had just picked it up out of the kitchen by accident, they would have returned it by now. This really sucks because I really liked it and I have no idea what I can do, not to mention the thought of someone just walking into my home and walking out with my property! If I ever find out who did it, I'm going on a Joyride the likes of which the world has never seen!!!

**sigh** And all this had to happen just when I thought everything was getting better...

Scott> <<"gargoyle, I choose you!">> *LOL*

SOROW> <<PSAT is tomorrow>> Good luck on the test!

jewel> <<Animal infanticide: Primates do it as well. And as primates ourselves, there's evidence that humans do it for the same reason--in cases of child abuse, the child is more likely to be die if he or she not the biological offspring of the abusive male.>> My anthropology teacher claims there's a new theory about that. Because most of the infants killed are newborns (often just hours old) it is suspected that they haven't had a chance to pick up "the chimp smell" so the other adults mistake it for just another monkey (like a colobus sp?) which they eat on a regular basis and the males don't know they're killing what very well could be their own offspring. It's pretty much a case of mistaken identity gone horribly wrong. I don't know how to explain why humans do it.

Skippy> <<all of the Klingons in D-FW region will be gathering together for the semi-regular event "It's a good day to dine!" Basicly, they get a reservation at some big resturant, and everybody shows up in full Klingon battle garb.>> That sounds like it would be quite a sight. How often are the Klingons actually allowed to eat when they show up like that, or does the restaurant know they'll be dressed like that?

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Monday, October 11, 1999 09:25:11 PM
IP: ppp-224-211.usc.edu

Doug> Thanks!

Skippy> I just asked a friend to load up the page and he said he got the same thing. Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have a retarded computer... wait, I do. :)

Everyone> Don't forget to vote for the Monthly Gargoyles Contest! I recommend the pic of Brooklyn and Lex as Batman and Robin. I fell out of my chair, they're so hot!!!!
SOROW
Monday, October 11, 1999 08:52:27 PM
IP: dll2b106-29.splitrock.net

Hi all,
Just a few comments - Sorry I haven't been back for so long, but I'm kinda in the middle of an asthma war (what I call an attack that lasts longer than an hour - in this case, nearly a week now). It's getting better, thank god. Two nights ago, I was having this big argument with my mother at about 2am because she thought I should go to hospital and I have a burning internal hatred for hospitals (and it's too close to exams, and I am probably an extremely large idiot, but hey, I'd been sleeping sitting up for three nights straight and I'm never a reasonable person when my lungs start playing up) Last night, I went six hours without medication and slept that whole time!!! (Yes, that is exciting for me. It's more than I've had all week) I'd like to kill Sli Sludge, but I'm just too tired and shaky from the medication. Ah well, to take a leaf from Micheal J Fox's book... Martini anybody? :)
Of course, on the up side, with all the 'free' time I had, I've finished my 'fic! (Ignores groans of dismay) I hope to post it tomorrow, once I've done a spell and grammar check. (ignores whimpering)

Baby fetuses> Oh god. I've got mixed feelings about this. My head can understand it, from a strictly scientific point of view. My heart is disgusted and horrified. Where does _all_ of me stand? Somewhere in between. As awful as it is, if it leads to a cure or treatment for a fatal disease, then I can accept it, even if I do not like it. I'm not commenting on the lego thing because I'm not actually sure how I feel about it, for reasons that everybody else has said so much better than I could.

The bomb> In answer to the point Robby brought up so well - We make our own history, from our own 'truths'. That is, our own point of view. Of _course_ the american textbooks said dropping the bomb was the right thing, and the japanese cartoon said it was the wrong thing. And they're both right, from their own point of view. Take a big issue in Australia at the moment - East Timor. As far as Indonesia is concerned, the UN and especially Australia are interferring and undermining them. As far as we are concerned (and this is my personal opinion), something has to be done to stop the genocide of an entire nation whose only crime is that they dared to vote for their own independence. Maybe true understanding does not come from _agreeing_ with the other person's point of view, but just from being aware that they have one.

Deuce> *sniff* Your aniversary page to Catherine was absolutely beautiful. My warm and fuzzies to you both. Good on you for not drinking. *applauds*

Fire storm> *fingers crossed*

Scott> *L* Loved the pokemon phone call!!

Christine> Good luck with the remaining publishers!!

Okay, I'm going to go crawl into a corner and cough for a while. I'll let you know if I dislodge any interesting looking organs. :)
TTFN!
$What's going on with the RP? Somebody tell me, PHU-LEASE??$
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 11, 1999 08:40:19 PM
IP: donkey.cc.monash.edu.au

Sorow: I ran into that same script problem as well. Might need to report it to da webmeisters....

Excessively busy Halloween> I have the possibility of having three different events to go to over the Halloween weekend.
Friday, I'm joining with a bunch of the Bob Larson fan club folks and we are protesting Bob at one of his rallies. I'm planning on going to the event dressed as Darth Maul which ought to get an interesting reaction from the Branch Larsonians :)
Saturday I'm heading out to that Arlingcon anime con the Anime UTA folks are hosting. My Star Trek club will have a table out there, so you D-FW folks might want to stop by and say hi :)

Sunday, If i am not mistaken, is the day for all of the Klingons in D-FW region will be gathering together for the semi-regular event "It's a good day to dine!" Basicly, they get a reservation at some big resturant, and everybody shows up in full Klingon battle garb. While I have not participated myself, knowing the kind of Klingons around the area it ought to be an interesting time...
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, October 11, 1999 07:53:50 PM
IP: uv1-55.ultravision.net

Guess who *finally* found herself an apartment!!! Yup. I move in October 22nd. As soon as I saw the complex, I knew that's where I wanted to live. Mainly because I saw a rabbit running around. $500 a month, plus electric. So what I'm spitting distance from Quantico Marine base...
Which leads me to...

War and human behaviour: Yes, war sucks. But we, as a species, seem to like doing it. And there's a theory that it's predisposed--I was reading a book called "Demonic Males" and it was looking a chimp behaviour--they're the only species, besides humans, who will actually wage war and seek out to obliterate any and all members of a group outside their own. Most other species of animal are content to simply drive away enemies, but chimps will make sneak commando attacks and kill. And I'm reading a book now called "The Lucifer Princple," which goes with the thesis that "evil" is a by-product of nature's stratgies for genetic continuation and is therefore built into our biological fabric. Although it seems to be more built into men than woman, according to both books--and both were written by men--although both say women perpetuate the warlike tendancies by seeking out these traits in men. Anyway, we are an aggressive species. We make war. We kill people with differing memes (ideas such as religion) than our own. Humans need an Us-vs-Them dichotomy, and that's not likely to change any time soon. I don't like war but, sadly, it's one of the things that makes us unique. But as the chimps show, not as unique as we used to think.

Animal infanticide: Primates do it as well. And as primates ourselves, there's evidence that humans do it for the same reason--in cases of child abuse, the child is more likely to be die if he or she not the biological offspring of the abusive male.

And on that cheery note to this cheery e-mail...

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Monday, October 11, 1999 07:38:09 PM
IP: 207-172-73-223.s223.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com

Jessie > better send it again; I think it may have been among the devoured when the computer crashed. Did you like it? I do hope so! And it's totally up to you if you want it posted for general consumption in the Silver Flame Archive or not. Just let me know! ; )

Writing news > finished ElfLore Book I last night! Trying now to decide whether I prefer "Silversilk" or "Quicksilver" for the title. Such a relief to have that one finally done; I'd been about 1/3 into it five years ago and then Becca was born and I dusted it off maybe twice since ... but now it is finally finished. Which means I will probably spend the rest of 1999 writing fanfic, getting Sabledrake Magazine going, and dealing with the holidays, and then plunge into another book in January. Next one'll probably be another horror effort, "The Gifted." Which might bear some striking similarities to "Dark Beauty: The Institute."

Avalon Mists > deadline in about six weeks, folks! Start sending those submissions now!

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, October 11, 1999 07:20:36 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Good news, everyone. Remember that test a couple weeks ago I was sure I failed? Got it back today, and I made A-. Woo-hoo!! :) Never underestimate the power of prayer.

SOROW: Good luck on your PSATs.

Todd: <nods> Saw that Pokemon commercial today, I too thought it was hilarious. Saw a pretty good new Pokemon ep as well.

Robby: Dark Ages in three weeks? Alright! Hope it lives up to my expectations. <grins, knowing it probably will>

More later ($including an RP, I'm waiting on Wilek and SJ before doing anything this week myself$).
Doug
Monday, October 11, 1999 07:04:01 PM
IP: pool-207-205-148-70.dlls.grid.net

SCOTT ISKOW - Good creativity demon there. (By an odd coincidence, one of the humorous WB commercials for "Pokemon" today had Ash capturing the Terry-Batman in one of his Pokeballs and getting promptly informed by the Bruce Wayne of "Batman Beyond" that his latest catch was *not* a Pokemon). Admittedly, I think that at least this Pokemon-craze directed towards gargoyles would be less dangerous than trying to kill them with electrified hammers; at least Pokemon are generally looked after quite well by their trainers (with the exception of the occasional jerk such as the one who abandoned Charmander).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 11, 1999 06:36:29 PM
IP: 216.87.46.64.dialup-stl.primary.net

Dude man guys guys! PSAT is tomorrow and I hafta get my @$$ in gear! If I don't do well, my whole summer will have been a waste. So wish me luck!

Question: Does anyone else get two Javascript errors when the TGS Main Page loads up? I can't make the boogers go away!
SOROW
Monday, October 11, 1999 05:33:01 PM
IP: dll2b105-37.splitrock.net

Hi folks. I'm cataloging boring periodicals from the GPO, so I needed to take a break. Here's a couple of personal news bits.
1 - my LARP is moving on schedule. We have a mechanic picked out, and we have our rooms assigned for the con. I'll be telling the con staff what kind of furniture to have in them (which they will pass on to the building staff) tomorrow. Character creation should be done over this week, which leaves the better part of 2 weeks for gathering props and stuff.

2 - I got an e-mail from Matt, the guy who wants to design a video game. He's been busy lately, but he's still interested, and has done some research on how and where to sell the thing. Prospects look good.

All in all, this has been a good day, even with the deep bruises I have all over my arms and chest from fencing Sunday afternoon. (One of my female lightfighter friends thinks that her doctor thinks she's in an abusive relationship because of the bruises he's seen...) Now if my building maintinance man will just have my toilets fixed before I get home, everything will be great. When one broke Sunday, that was no problem. Now that both aren't working, I'm getting nervous.

Oh well, see y'all later. There's an urgent copy of the Survey of Current Business on my desk. If I don't get it processed soon, some guy will have to wait an extra day to read "Foreign Direct Investment in the United States: 1997 Benchmark Survey, Preliminary Results."

Can't have that, can we.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, October 11, 1999 05:19:46 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

yep they dumped a load of files and i hit submit before typing my name so i could get back to work. but i'm back saw my mistake anon was me. 40 minutes till i free and then i get to go to a lower plane of hell (the gym to work out). i really wana go to the ren fair but there is a con this month too and expenses of living on your own. I had to by another book shelf too many books! Hmm i wonder if greg would ever do novels for garg? I know comparing novels to scripts is like apples and oragnes, but hey i can dream
btw Sj i am about to start killing dance on the anita blake series.
ironwolf
Monday, October 11, 1999 04:22:25 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-49.cha.bellsouth.net

anon-- well, male animals will often kill a female's cubs not for fun, but to force the female to go back into heat (estress) in hope that they may impregnate her, thus passing on there own genetic code. Again, concrete matters, not abstract--passing on one's genetic offspring is a primal drive, like eating.

and ... iron wolf is this you ? :P Noticed the ip
jenna
Monday, October 11, 1999 03:57:40 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

opps saw jenna's post and wanted to point out two things
bears. male bears will kill just to kill. thats why mommy bears don't let them near the cubs.
Cats these are the most evil creatures in the world i have seen cats kill for fun. and not just kill but torture the poor mouse or bird to death and not even eat it. so animals can kill for pleasure or spite just like us they just haven't figured out how to use our guns...Yet muhahahahahahah
Anonymous
Monday, October 11, 1999 03:44:50 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-49.cha.bellsouth.net

Aris Katsaris > one problem with your question. The loss of Japanese life would have been greater if we had invaded. So if your asking would I sacrifice a hundred thousand Americans to save millions of Americans and Japanese lives… yes because it would save more American lives in the long run. You know they kinda made a movie on the lines of this question. A nuke missile accidentally launched and hit Russia. The president had a couple of choices; one of the choices was to go to war another was to nuke New York. He nuked New York to prove to Russia that we didn’t want to go to war.

I hate to tell all the antibomb ppls but Civilians always die during war fact of life. It has gone on all through history not just modern times. You name an era and I can tell you how the civilians suffered. Heck the more modern the warfare the less the suffering on the population. If we had invaded Japan the Japanese language would be extinct. The loss of so many American lives I believe would have led to the extinction of Japan. Look what happened to Germany and we (Americans) were fighting for their rights after the war. American opposed most of the disciplinary actions wanted by the other countries. If Germany could be broken up with us fighting for their rights what would have happened to Japan with no one fighting for them and a revengeful America closing down on them? Less not also forget Japan was aiming at the citizens of the USA as well. They tied bombs to hot air balloons so that they would come down somewhere in the USA to strike terror in our citizens. It didn’t really work because most didn’t reach here but what if they did?


Gotta go but I leave yall with one thought
If war is hell then why are we so good at it?
Because hell has no fury like a women scorned

ironwolf
Monday, October 11, 1999 03:38:39 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-49.cha.bellsouth.net

one last comment-- Scott- loved the Pokemon phone call ! ^_^
jenna
Monday, October 11, 1999 01:38:15 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Robby-- like the dark ages preview, if I had pointed ears they would have shot up in curoisity *L*

War-- hmmmm, very very dangerous ground. Were we right or not? This is a much too complicated subject to deal with in the time I've got.

But Serverus Jr did say something that peaked my intrest. Loosly requoted, "humans were the only ones who have any kind of device planned to curb violence." Well, that is very true, but humans are also the only ones that have used these same abstract ideas to give others reasons to fight. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, there is nothing on this earth more dangerous and more deadly than someone who has a cause.

When animals fight each other, they are always for concrete reasons: food, territory, mating rights. But to kill for an abract goal, and to kill in vast numbers is something we humans specialize in. That makes us far more dangerous.

Also, animals (esp. pack orientated ) fight for rank. But once rank is established, its over. With human violence, it can last for years if not longer.

I have alot of violence in my stories, fanfic and otherwise. I love violent video games such as Resident Evil, ect. And I like anime, ect. But in my own real life, I will always loathe violence, and the use of it. I don't think it is our sources of entertainment that give rise to violence, but a breakdown of the family structure, and when it becomes acceptable to use it to solve problems, esp. in the case of domestic violence. But this is another topic all together...
jenna
Monday, October 11, 1999 01:36:13 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Warp- thanks, and thanks-

Jannie- thanks for the link! will look at it as soon as I'm done here. Yeah, I really can't stand those dancers at ren fest, and here's why. I myself am a bellydancer for 10 some odd years, and I tell you, those gals have no training. The rythems are wrong, and the costumes are very very bad. We cover up more than that!!!! I think it's an art form and I hate to see it degraded to little more than lap dancing in a middle eastern costume- gives the rest of us a bad name. (and yeah, that's why my garg personas are all dancers ie: Salome, Cairo of Clan SteelClaw)

Spike- cute drawing.

Pistoff-- good to see you in here ^_^

More later---
jenna
Monday, October 11, 1999 11:06:33 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Warpmind>> Glad to hear it got there! Just put the picture between some nice heavy books and that'll take care of the wrinkles. *grumbles* These are the same postal workers that returned a package to my mother after 3 weeks in mail limbo, saying it "could not be delivered as addressed." It should be noted that my mother is even shorter than I am and looks like a cookie-baking grandmother but I understand she went up to the post office and raised sixteen jillion different kinds of heck. They still wince when she comes in.

Dark Ages starting in 3 weeks? Oh, ratboogers.... I've got to finish up those illustrations!!
Spike
Monday, October 11, 1999 10:24:46 AM
IP: pppt05-243.ght.iadfw.net

Pokemon craze >

***1996 telephone conversation recorded between New York and Japan***

Goliath: Kai! How fares Ishimura?

Kai: Bad.

Goliath: Bad? Why?

Kai: It's this new show that just aired. It has all the children convinced that they should capture what they don't understand and confine them to tiny balls.

Goliath: I'm sure it's just a phase.

Kai: You'd think so, wouldn't you? I--hold on a second.

muffled: "gargoyle, I choose you!"

Kai: I have to go. Someone just captured my second-in-command. There's barely any of us left! Goliath, I must warn you: Beware the coming of the "Pocket Mo--!"

--click!--

Goliath: Kai? Kai???

<ominous silence>

***

I have way too much time on my hands. :)


Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Monday, October 11, 1999 10:12:01 AM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Okay, Third long post in a row... hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me for it... or maybe forgive the Sysadmin here, who had unwillingly cut me off for a week...

Deuce: There has been a One Year Anniversary here, and I missed it? Figures. You semi-lucky bugger, you. (And I mean it in the friendliest aspect there is!)

Jenna: Sorry to hear about the trouble with this in-law of yours. Lucky me, I have no in-laws whatsoever. This has two reasons: 1: I am not married. 2: Neither are my sisters. However... my older half-sister might be someday relatively soon... and then... what will that guy be? My half-brother-in-law?

Toku Kaioto: True, Mommy Gates did not found Microsoft. But she still could have tried not to raise such a greedy sh*thead of a son. Think about it: As soon as somebody else makes something that is fully able to compete with the Microsoft products (thanks to the careful betatesting other companies perform), ol' Bill buys'em out. Just look at what he tried to do to Java. Luckily, Linus Thorvalds (the LINUX guy) seems unbuyable. Unluckily, LINUX is such a bitch to learn. But still, as you said, Momma Gates didn't found Microsoft. Hmmm... I'm reading the Illuminatus! Trilogy these days... I think I'm being affected by their mindset... Reality is the most common delusion of all.

Sevarius Jr.: You're just beginning to lose faith in the human race? Well, I'll say this for ya, you're catching on. There are advantages to the humans, though. They're a great source of entertainment, when looked upon with a critical eye. And a good brew in your hand, of course.

Jaden: The "May you live in interesting times" line is a Chinese curse, alright. Face it, nothing is as interesting as conflict or scandal. It is stressful, and often fatal to several of the persons involved. It is when times are uninteresting that serenity and inner peace is allowed to bloom. And now I'm becoming philosophical again...

Wilek: I think the word you were thinking of is "Trepanation", the process through which a part of your skull is removed (most commonly, to my knowledge, the thin part on top).

T.J. Veil: One of your Thoughts for the day; the "I don't have anyone I hate"-line. That's from Death: The High Cost of Living, aye? I seem to remember that very line from there, when a kid is writing about the utter lack of reasons to live, but just don't have the guts to end it, either... But do correct me if I'm wrong, here. I read a lot, and thus I often mix up various works by various authors.

Embryos for sale: Ok, if I was not so entirely disgusted with the general idea (and not so damn broke), I'd actually consider pondering a purchase, if for nothing else then just to freak out friends and relatives. Of course, I've been told I have a very black/dry/wet/strange sense of humor by different people. It's all about the current shape of the day, I guess. But I still doubt I'd buy one.

Jenna: Nice ramble you had about life on Friday. I seem to keep wanting to say something about "Not a sparrow", or whatever the English translation of that particular passage is.

I saw something here about sick songs: Well, I myself am attempting to get a copy of Dennis Leary's "Life's gonna suck when you grow up". Now THAT is truly depressing. And it begins like this: "And here's something for the kids. Life's gonna suck when you grow up, life's gonna suck when you grow up, life's gonna suck when you grow up, and then you go to school." There's a lot about there being no Santa etc. but I haven't gotten around to finding it yet. Typical. If anyone here has seen the lyrics, and know where to find them online, please e-mail me.

Deuce: Well, at least you're not as confusing as a friend of mine is. Whenever he is in the clothes store and he is asked about what size he wants, he answers "Extra Medium". To my knowledge, only three clerks haven't been completely taken off guard on first encounter. Since '92.

Yggdrasil: Oh, look. It sounds like we have our own Dr. Quincy here (no offense). Actually, I think you sound a bit too enthusiastic when you talk about dissection, but I wholeheartedly agree, never mind what I said a little further up in this post.

By the way, for some reason I cannot seem to access the fetus selling page. Probably just as well, I think I got the necessary gory details from you guys.

CrzyDemona: "One race, one people"... Speak for yourself, hon. ;) Actually, you do have a point. If only more politicians could visit us here, and possibly even grasp a tad of Callahanian philosophy (and not only politicians; people, too), the world might be a better place in general.

Jannie: Sausage festival picture: Ewwwww. My mind insists on seeing things that I don't want to. I better kick that cute little secretary around a bit to rearrange the information again.

Oh, great. Gotta cut again. But fear not (or maybe you should), I'll try to return this evening to finish what I have started, namely to reply to all comments I find commentworthy of last week and this. Particularly since it seems it has been over a week, and nobody has commented directly to me. (Hint, hint.)

Well, gotta sign off, so... Later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, October 11, 1999 08:58:40 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hello, hope everyone had a good weekend
Here's a top ten list that was sent to me thought some of you might enjoy it....

The Ten Best Things To Say When Caught Sleeping At Your Desk

10. "They told me at the blood bank this might happen."
9. "This is just a 15 minute power nap like they raved about in that time management course you sent me to."
8. "Whew! Guess I left the top off the Whiteout. You probably got here just in time!"
7. "I wasn't sleeping! I was meditating on the mission statement and envisioning a new paradigm."
6. "I was testing my keyboard for drool resistance."
5. "I was doing a highly specific Yoga exercise to relieve work related stress. Are you discriminatory toward people who practice Yoga?"
4. "Why did you interrupt me? I had almost figured out a solution to our biggest problem."
3. "The coffee machine is broken ..."
2. "Someone must've put decaf in the wrong pot ..."
And the #1 best thing to say if you get caught sleeping at your desk

....

1. " ... in Jesus' name. Amen."

Catch ya'll later

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Monday, October 11, 1999 08:31:25 AM
IP: 216.190.241.159

Okay, folks. Back again for more replies and comments (and a Joyride event, if there is time).

(Waiting for Last Week's Room to load, checking out for Morganic updates.)

Skippy: A 64 oz. steak? I have a friend who accepted such a challenge. According to to witness statements, the manager almost had a heart attack when he asked for seconds...

Millennial change on December 31st, 2000: Yeah, I know how it is. People here listen, or rather, pretend to listen to my ranting. But do they care? Noooo. Actually, all things considered, the actual millennial change was probably about seven years ago, since the calendar is, according to historians, most likely years wrong when it comes to the year of the Birth of Christ. As one astronomer said: "Give me a date, and I'll explain the Star of Bethlehem." Oh, well, For Auld Lang Syne, and all that gibberish. Oh, and by the way... from January 1st to December 31st, 2001: watch out for people calling themselves HAL, and who claim that they are completely operational, and all their circuits are functioning perfectly.

MP's: Oh, yeah. I got some of those, all right. Actually, they're mostly aspects of myself that protrude from the so-called "norm" on occasion. (If I'm perceiving this correctly, we're talking about Multiple Personalities here, right?) The ones that I have charted somewhat is:
The Bored Student; he's the "RL" character in function most of the weekdays. His attitude to life is that of utter indifference.
The Baron; he's one of the personalities that kick in at times, most often while I'm on the Net. He's haughty, opinionated, and zealous.
The Monk; He's a serene personality; nothing seems to faze him, nor is he prone to actions that may cause anything harm. Frankly, he's one of my faves.
The Warrior; Fortunately, he's only surfaced seven times over the last decade, that I am aware of. He is obviously a form of "unused resources" possessed by all humans; when I am in some form of danger, he crawls up from the recesses of my mind, picks up the first piece of loose furniture available, and attacks. Luckily, I have not yet actually hurt anyone... permanently. Hope I never will, either.
The Scholar; Whenever someone asks me a question, he peeks out. His memory may be a bit... erratic (he was in charge of my Tolkien comment - no hard feelings for the corrections, mind you -), but he's usually a great "well of knowledge". The most annoying part about him is that when he often speaks English. Oxford English, at that. Don't ask me where he learned that particular accentuation, I usually watch American movies and TV shows.
The Poet; Don't insult this guy, he's skilled in wordplay. To this date, only one man has successfully managed to insult him, with no decent reply. Luckily, both parties involved were aware of the fact that it was all in jest. The Poet is an incurable punster, and is the personality trait that sired Manxine, Jason Evermore, and a few other characters for short stories and fanfiction. He looks upon the world with constant wonder at its marvels, from the greatest mammal to the most insignificant insect. Oh, and he's also to blame for the filks I've submitted to Avalon Mists, both good ones and bad ones. He's kind of inconsistent in style at times.

Night Walker: Well, you are mentioning Bjork a lot. But, there is this fancy little thing called Freedom of Speech... Heck, I admit it; if I see something here that resembles overly positive talk of an actor or musician or artist or whatever that I personally don't care much for, I'll just skip to the next point on the list. You keep mentioning Bjork, and I'll keep skipping those parts (no offense). As for the dreams; I have, to a certain extent, prophetic dreams, as well. But why the heck do they always have to be the last five minutes of an episode of Wucliffe, Poirot or another murder mystery show? Or, if it is not the solution to a fictional murder, it's a highly detailed death of mine in a DOOM Deathmatch. Occasionally Quake. I find such dreams rather annoying. If anyone found this disturbing, do not hesitate to say so.

Lexy: Welcome back, lass. It's been a long time no see.

David G: You've got a friend who's talking about playtesting an RPG? The lucky guy. Me, I'm stuck BECOMING an Adventure game, written by a friend of mine. It will, apparently, become somewhat similar to the Leisure Suit Larry series when it comes to the actual general human interaction competance of myself (not too far from reality, actually), and the character will have more similarities than dissimilarities with me. I'm kind of looking forward to it, though it's merely in the planning phase yet... and I'm proud to say that when it is done, I'll let you know (probably years ahead, anyway), and I'll let you have a copy each for fr... with a notable discount. (Hey, CD's don't come cheap, either, you know.)

Top Ten lists: I'm tempted to submit a Top Ten list here, myself. It's titled "Why Gargoyle Females Make Better Dates Than Human Females", and is sponsored by Nightstone Unlimited. Actually, I originally submitted it to Avalon Mists, but got a reply stating it was probably a bit too adult content... oh, well. If you're interested, I can assure you, it does not say anything rude nor offensive. Not out loud, anyway. The indications are there, though.

Coyote's writing something called "When Clans Collide"? Yo, dude, feel free to borrow my immortal paladin, or female felinoid fighter. (Doh, that line sucks baaaad!)

Okay, I gotta just post this ang go before the acces is cut violently at high noon precisely... Sounds like the SysAdmin is planning a shoot-out with the Server.

Later, guys.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, October 11, 1999 05:52:08 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi, y'all. After about ten days unwillingly offline, it is time for a looooong post, mostly of replies from Norway. Dig it, please? *Blinks innocently.*

Pissy: That Joyride event over a week ago, with the stage coach: I've heard about repressed sexuality before, but that was pretty ridickolous (pun intended). Nice work, though. I hope she wasn't someone I know.

Jesse Fey: Did I miss a filk? It looks like someone has filked Gilligan's Isle here, and I missed it? I've been wondering about filking that same one myself! (And considering the show never ran in Norway, and my only encounter with it was in an episode of *blushes slightly* Baywatch, you can imagine how catchy the themesong was. It is amazing, how hard that song was to find on the Internet.) If you did filk that song, please e-mail me a copy, hmmm?

Welcome to our realm of madness, B.G.

Spike: Got the picture of Manxine in the mail Saturday. You had written "Do not bend" on the envelope, and guess what happened? I feel like Joyriding a postal worker...

Pistoff's Stupid, Drunken Customer: Gods above, I can't believe such specimens still exist in the US. Norway, I can understand, since the Norwegian General Drinking Pattern is something like attempting to reach a blood alcohol level of 0.55% within seven o'clock on Friday Evening. Of course, there are those of us who take distance from such behavior... but still, it is amusing to watch, as long as we don't get directly bothered ourselves, no?

Kingdomality Test: Oh, My God, I'm Captain Kirk! Just listen: Your distinct personality, The Discoverer, might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time.
Your overriding goal is to go where no one else has ever gone before. Regardless of the number of available natural problems to be solved, it is not unusual for you to continually challenge yourself with new situations or obstacles that you have created. You are an insatiable explorer of people, places, things and ideas. You thrive on constant change and anything new or different. On the positive side, you can be creatively rational as well as open minded and just. On the negative side, you might be an impractical and indecisive procrastinator. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate
kingdoms.

Zath: What's this about chem burns? I'm kind of rushing through here, and don't have time to read all posts carefully. Worst chem accident I've ever had was a minor gas cloud that took out all my facial hair for a few weeks. Don't ask.

Pistoff's Spider Robinson Quote: You snagged that one from the Backword in The Callahan's Chronicals, did you not?

Who the F*** is Alice: Aw, man! I liked the original. Now I have that mutilation stuck in my head, too.

To all the sick people in here... sorry, to all the physically ill people in here: Get Well Soon.

I'd write more, but right now I'm in such a hurry, it's bordering on perversity... I'll post more later.

Later, guys.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, October 11, 1999 03:30:10 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Jenna> I went to the Ren Fest today and had a great time! (except for continuously wishing that Denis was with me *sniffles*) I just wanted to drop this link to you.. don't know if you heard Ded Bob give his website addy or not! His ten top reasons for him being prez was hilarious!! The festival was just as good as always. Heh, even had a belly dancer who's boob fell out of her skimpy top during the grounds parade. *snickers* down boys! she was nasty! *L* Some of these women should really do a reality check in a full length mirror! I'm all for dressing in costume, having fun, etc. but geesh! deal with the fact that not all costumes are appropriate for your body! *cringes and shudders at the memory* Anyway, just added to the fun of the festival ;D Ded Bob certainly has my vote for Prez! *L*

Pistoff> I can't get to my email... netserver at it's tricks again..*groans* Sorry you got dc'd. It's 2am for me and I'm going to call it quits. See you tomorrow, my dear friend! *hugs*

Denis> *hugs and kiss* love ya!
Jannie
Monday, October 11, 1999 02:53:10 AM
IP: 196-080.c.esc4.net

Wilek > Yeppers, Danny Elfman is involved in Sleepy Hollow, as well as Lisa Marie and Johnny Depp, so for a Tim Burton movie, the gang's all here! Well, not the whole gang, but you know...And I am fascinated by Christopher Walken. I think he's a totally cool guy, but sometimes even the most innocent things he does are creepy. So Christopher Walken without a head is gonna rock! Ooh, and the Evil Dead game sounds cool. Did you know they just released Army OF Darkness with Additional footage? Which means I have to buy it again. ;)

Robby > Grr...you mean they don't have a wide release planned? That's really bad. Basically that means I'll never see it. At least not in the theatre.

Christine > Uhm, did you ever get my email? About the, uh, birthday present? *Grins and blushes a little*

Well, I'm in an incredibly good mood right now, because I just finished sewing my Harley Quinn costume and, not to toot my own horn or anything, but I think it looks _awesome_! I had to fight the urge to just put it on and run around town showing everyone I know. I'm gonna explode before Halloween.
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 11, 1999 02:08:23 AM
IP: ctrts3-3.mrs.umn.edu

Hey all

15!!!!!!!! Oh well , maybe next week , my record has been #9 so far.

I found out why I keep missing my chances to chat with angela , I'll fill you guys in tomorrow.

Traveler-So , you have decided to show your face again , I still say there can be only one. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back man, glad to see you.

Sorry for the X-tra small post , but I really have to get to bed.

Goodnight my rookery brothers and sisters. Love you all.
night walker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart, IN, usa
Monday, October 11, 1999 01:44:38 AM
IP: proxy-393.public.rwc.webtv.net

Taleweaver: Thank you for misconstruing my response.

I never, ever once said that what we did was "noble". I don't glorify war. Hell, to be honest, I don't even really like the military--ANY military. I respect our armed forces because they are there to die for us, and if there's one person in this world who I CAN respect, it's the man or woman out there willing to die for me, for their country, so that I can sit on my ass, wave an American flag, and eat a big piece of goddamn apple pie. I never said what we did was noble. We blew a whole bunch of people to little bitty bits. We were NOT the only bad guys in this conflict, which is the whole thing I think some people seem to forget. (Please, I ask of you, all those who think the Bomb was the most evil thing *ever*--we were NOT the only villains in the fight, thank you. I get the feeling some people in here, who I won't name, seem to forget that America was not the Almight Evil in WW2, even if we did drop the nukes). No, war is not noble. The Bomb was not noble. What I said was that I think we were right in what we did. I know it's hard for some to think of the death of thousands of innocents being the right thing to do, but against the possibility of MILLIONS of dead innocents, I still say it was the right choice to make. Not *morally* right, per say, but right in the sense of loss of life. Do you want the frying pan of thousands dead, or the fire of millions dead? If you want, it was an act of desparation by a country that wanted the killing to stop. So yeah, we killed to stop death. Sounds funky cause it is. You can get mad at the whole "War is Hell" comment, but unless you've ever experienced it (or know someone who has) you'll never know how true that is. War is f-ed up, and it f***s up anyone touched by it. No, NO war is noble. I never said that, my message was never saying that.

As for your question on human behavior, you seemed to answer your own query. Yes, humans are exceptionally violent and brutal. But guess what? EVERYTHING IS VIOLENT AND BRUTAL. Last time I checked, there were tons of earthquakes and storms and tornados and tsunamis from Mother Nature. Lions and tigers and bears and wolves will kill and eat you. Even a goddamn plant will kill and destroy (venus fly traps, clinging or "choking" vines that will parasitically attach to trees and subsequently destroy them). Life, by nature, is one long *struggle*, and a violent one at that. I don't think that it's necessary to write off the human population because of that. We would never have survived this long in this harsh world if we *had not* been extraordinarily tough, brutal creatures. We've always been a dangerous species, but then the world is filled with dangerous species. Humans are about the only things in this world that has at least established some sort of safeguard against the natural violent impulses, as Wilek mentioned: laws, morals, religions, etc.

Kaioto: Thank you for saying eloquently what I cannot. Once again, I value your wisdom. :)

New Dark Ages: 'Bout time! I'm dying over here for some new TGS stuff....any new TGS stuff!!!

Traveler: Where you been? The room just got wiped, looks like it's all ready for one of your epic little posts, buddy! C'Mon, write something long, dern it!!! ;)


Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, October 11, 1999 12:23:45 AM
IP: 207-172-53-102.s102.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Damn it! That's the kinda day it's been. Can't even make a post. *sigh* anyway...there was a major crisis today, and that took all of my time and attention. I'll try to catch up with replies tomorrow. Just wanted to let everybody know that I haven't disappeared again....just have a lot going on....still. Real post later....
Pistoff again
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:59:21 PM
IP: wire-9.koalas.com

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Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:55:00 PM
IP: wire-9.koalas.com

As far as the whole bombing discussion going on, war is bad and that's all I'm going to say because no one will win.

Homecoming was a blast! I'm not going to describe every little detail, except that I'll say I've never had a better dinner. I ate at some place called The Melting Pot and it was hilarious. You cook your own food on the table and I kept losing my chicken in the pot. And I completely gorged down a huge chocolate dessert, but you should have known :) I sucked the chocolate through a straw when the waitress wasn't looking. And as far as the dance, when my date started breathing down my back on a slow dance...I wanted to jump him right there! Hahahahaha! But I'm a good girl, so I didn't. Overall, a great night. Now I have to finish a project, so...OKIloveyoubyebye!

Robby> Shame on you for teasing us so early! That's deserves a spanking!
SOROW
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:48:03 PM
IP: dll2b208-43.splitrock.net

War IS Hell. It is a cyclical prison of pain and suffering we create as Men that wipes away our humanity inch by inch. It is a state of mind where there is so little room for virtue if you want to come out of it alive. It is fed by fear, hatred, and self-preservation. War is Hell, because the human race jumps into it under its own power.

America dropped the bomb. America killed. America was at war.
America was attacked first. (Pearl Harbor)
Japan refused to surrender.
Japan continued to attack us.
We dropped a bomb.
They said it was a bluff.
Japan refused to surrender.
We dropped the other bomb.
They surrendered.
We stopped killing each other.

If we had dropped the bomb after Japan had surrendered, I’d be outraged or ashamed.
If we had instead mounted a land war, there would have been greater casualties on both sides. More Japanese civilians would have died.

I can’t be any more ashamed of the atomic bombs than I can of any other method of mass murder that comprised the Second World War.

I’m not ashamed of it as an American.
I’m ashamed of it as a Human Being.

There is a big difference.
I’ll not apologize for using a one weapon in a war over another if they net the same results in the long run.
I’ll be ashamed I ever had to lift a hand against another human being.

**end rant**

*looks at Robby’s post* Well, finally! Some new episodes. :)

Fire Storm: Good luck. You have my prayers.

Deuce: I feel for you. I live at college. People wonder why I don’t “socialize.” I do socialize. I don’t party.

Wilek: Well said. We are the Gray, a Shard of Light wrapped in a sphere of darkness. It is the human struggle to find ways to let more and more of that Light shine through.

Christine: This is why I like Trading Card Games. No casualties. Lots of non-stomach churning carnage. Winner and a loser. Clean conflict. Satisfying to win. Nothing like war at all.

Actually, I think the reason we Can kill so many people is that we don’t do it face to face. It is much easier to dehumanize from 5,000 feet …

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:46:20 PM
IP: 1cust91.tnt2.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Anyone here seen a disturbing little movie called Witches Of Eastwick? Entertaining, but...sick and wrong. Still, Jack Nicholson was eerily perfect for the role of a Nephandi mage...

FS> <<OH yeah, everyone who cares, PLEASE cross your fingers for us! We aren't sure of they will pay and there is a few more things with this customer, and there is another customer that shows promise.>> Hope things go well, friend. <crosses fingers, toes, and tail>

Taleweaver> <<If war is hell, how come human beings excel at it so well? If war is hell, why is it an enterprise that is so heavily romanticized.>> Because every single sentient being carries within him or her a little piece of Hell. Every single sentient being has a shadow, a dark side, capable of horrific evil. The primary reason that we aren't entirely composed of psychotic slavering murderous animals is because most of us have found ways of fighting and subduing our dark sides. Morals, ethics, laws, religion, even simple civility and dignity, all of these are ways of fighting the beast within, and releasing the power of its savagery and violence only when it can be put to good use, such as in self-defense. That is part of what separates us from animals. (No, Kai, I'm not gunning for your job. 8P)

Traveler> Quite glad you're back; I for one have missed your special brand of psychopathia. >:D <<run a teaser like that again more than a week before release, and I will hunt you down like a rabid dog>> Interesting...although a more enjoyable course of action would be to--oh, wait; we don't want to kill him just yet; the CR needs both its administrators and TGS wouldn't be the same if one of its writers and illustrators were to turn up in pieces in a tree in Maryland somewhere. ;)
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:07:02 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

**stops fixating for a moment**

TOP TEN!!

**fixates once more**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:02:51 PM
IP: modem34.i-is.com

MMUUUHAHAHAHAAH!!!!! Number seven!!! And Robby, run a teaser like that again more than a week before release, and I will hunt you down like a rabid dog.>:)) (WWWHHHHHEEEE New Dark Ages!!! *dances around*)

Kitainia- R/L kinda... You and Doug know how college courses can be...
Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:45:43 PM
IP: 98aa3ce1.ipt.aol.com

TOP TEN!

And I just won a Bronx action figure on Ebay! WooHOO!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:41:07 PM
IP: m2.ieway.com

Top Ten!!! (That's all we wanted to say.)
Kit and Doug
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:33:54 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-83.dlls.grid.net

TOP TEN!!!
Zath
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:28:58 PM
IP: ppp-225-095.usc.edu

Thank you Taleweaver that was indeed the details I couldn't remember.


Theresa
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:13:54 PM
IP: proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net

Top 10! :D
Wilek
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:08:45 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Hey! Second?
Mandolin
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:07:57 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

"To be honest, the only thing I remember after Brother Edmund leaving was..." and he trailed off in sudden thought.

"What? What?" Graeme asked.

"No." Brooklyn shook his head.

"What? Please tell us, father?" Ariana pleaded. Sata cut a sideways glance at her mate.

"Naw, you wouldn't be interested in it."

"Yes, we would. Yes we would! Pleeeeasee," the begged in unison.

"Well," Brooklyn said, stroking his beak, "okay."

DARK AGES SEASON TWO: COMING IN JUST THREE WEEKS!
Robby
Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:07:06 PM
IP: spider-wk072.proxy.aol.com