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I do believe that was the shortest non-top ten post I've ever made in here....>:))

(Not counting this...>:P)
Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:41:36 PM
IP: 98a71e55.ipt.aol.com

*Appears from the shadows*

Well.... I wonder how long until the room wipe and new episode tonight...

*HEHEHhehehehehehe*
Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:39:20 PM
IP: 98a71e55.ipt.aol.com

speaking of which, I think SD on Zombie Island was better, more self-mockery and bigger plot twists in that one, here they only took shots at the "you meddling kids" line and Fred pairing off with Daphne
shogun raptor
Sunday, November 28, 1999 10:30:32 PM
IP: user-38ldd7f.dialup.mindspring.com

SD&TWG> I can top that one, I just saw it this morning and Luna (LUNAAAAAA!), the Hex Girls keyboardist looked FRIGHTENINGLY like Demona, especially with the fangs
shogun raptor
Sunday, November 28, 1999 10:23:21 PM
IP: mia1-wc2.atlas.digex.net

walks in>> Hey, I haven't really been here before but I've been here as Hound of Truth, and Star Glider. Well I just wanted to know if there was room for one more in here?
Just to fit in, here.
***************SPOILERS!!! WARNING************************
B day presents>> I got a car on nov 3rd for my B day and what should happen but these little kids that I watch poured paint all over it. Ick.
WORK>> Today at my job at NssC I was getting a program done for the FBI when the computer's did a mager shut down from a power surge, I could of strangeled the person next to me! It took three hours to restore what I had and by the time I got home It was 12 pm!
X Files>> Major thriller I hope this week, it should be perfect.
Pokemon>> Have to agree, Ash had to loose sometime, but at least he gets to brag to Garry. ((I made a bett that ash would loose, and now I have 20$ free bucks in my pocket@
Chat rooms>> Has anyone else noticed how much their starting to get lame at night? I meannothing is happening!
FAMILY>> I for one am tired of pregnant mothers.. I have two older sisters, a younger sister, and a younger bro. Now my mom is on her 8th month with my new bro! I think I'm gonna spu!
****************END OF SPOILERS*****************
Incase your wondering, I'm now 16, and if your wondering why in the world I'm programming for the FBI then you haven't met my father, he's been teaching the roped on computer's since I was in dipers.
Well X files are about to come on here. BYE
Brooklyn - [brooklyn_wyvern]
glendale hightss, Illinoise, USA
Sunday, November 28, 1999 08:52:09 PM
IP: dialup-166.90.70.123.chicago1.level3.net

Spent the last five days confined to a 486... it really makes me appreciate a college network. I'm taking a short break from frenzied last-minute paper research and organization right now, so bear with me if I seem a bit more out of it than usual. But yes, I'm actually going to try to play catch-up.

**MOVIE SPOILERS**

The World is Not Enough> Pretty much everyone's summed up my thoughts on this one. I enjoyed it despite the presence of Denise Richards. (I don't care if Electra turned out to be a bit of a psycho. I found it hard to swallow that Bond would have to blow away Sophie Marceau and then settle for Richards.) John Cleese's cameo as 'R' was nice to see and not too overdone. As for him taking over for Q... well, Aaron, I agree that no one will ever replace Desmond Llewelyn. But I'd prefer to see the character get to retire rather than have him killed off like every other recurring character seems to. Both Llewelyn - and Q - have earned a rest. If they do have Cleese take over eventually, I hope they do it gradually. And yes, Robbie Coltrane was a blast as Zukofsky. I hope to God they didn't kill him off for good; he's become a great character.

Sleepy Hollow> Better than I expected, actually. I don't have as much to say about it, mainly because I wasted too much time talking about Bond.

**END MOVIE SPOILERS!**

**TV SPOILERS**

Buffy/Angel> Haven't gotten a chance to watch my tape of "Pangs," although I found Xander's end line very funny (right up there with "Helpless"). Did watch most of "I Will Remember You," and I did like it, although Buffy/Angel angst got old for me in the middle of last season. I really, really wish they didn't plan to kill off Doyle next week... *sulks*

Now and Again> Must be the only person left in the CR who watches this show, but oh well. :) This week's episode had a premise that was laden with potential for trouble. Thank goodness Rene Echevarria wrote it. Great character development on all sides - the twist at the end with Morris setting the whole thing up was extremely fitting. (I saw it coming, but I liked it.) The replacement doctor was surprisingly sympathetic, and the lawyer was actually likable for a change. The only problems I had were with how badly they're screwing up the timeline - and the fact there won't be a new episode for three weeks. Bleah.

Friends> I only watched this because Mom took us home in time to see it. The last 30 seconds of kamikaze tattle-taleing made the entire episode worth it. :)

**END TV SPOILERS**

Avalon Mists> Another deadline I've got to miss. I've got a 7-page paper for Culture of India due Tuesday and a 10-pager for Brit Lit due Friday... and I thought it was due next Monday, and haven't had a chance to start it! *sigh* At least I took the option of writing my American Novel term paper before midterms. I'd be a wreck now if I had that on top of all this.

Spike re: AI teaser> Aaahh! Write! Write! Write! :)

Personal fanfic progress> My month-long hiatus from fic writing is now extended til December 15th, the day I hope to be done with finals. I just can't allow myself to be distracted from my papers at all these next few weeks. The only fic I'm working on now is TGS-related.

Doug and Kit> I know it's belated, but I did read about the A&M tragedy. That's awful.

Coyote> It's belated, I know, but **gives him a big hug**

*sigh* It's after 7:30, I should be looking up more stuff on the Kumbha Mela, so that's all for catchup now. Until whenever I emerge from homework...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 08:37:24 PM
IP: 144.175.2.178

A brief pause in your regular programming, so that the Distant Fans Network can bring you this message:


TAMPA BAY WINS!!! BUCS STOMP SEAHAWKS 16 to 3!!! BUCS WIN!!!


This concludes this message of the D.F.N. ...

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, November 28, 1999 07:36:01 PM
IP: m151.ieway.com

Christine: <because I know that I collect not for profit but for love ... >
I know... it's just like Beanie Babies. People buying them by the hundreds.
Whenever I mention that I have a Sparky, they always offer to buy it from me. HELL NO! It was a gift and I love that little guy!

Speaking of which, the McDonalds mini-Beanie Babies... people buying 20+ meals for the doll, then PITCHING THE FOOD! (Some of my ex-coworkers bought that many meals, but ended up giving away the food.)
FIre Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 07:32:48 PM
IP: t2-2.visitus.net

Hi everyone, hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. The family computer had some virus that makes the monitor "white out" all the time, or I would have visited here. ^_^
So, yes I am alive and well except for the usual facts that I don't exercise enough or eat enough vegetables or manage my time properly. In fact, I have a 6 page report due tomorrow that I haven't written a single word of yet. *sheepish* I'll try to stop by later on this week. *hugs for everyone*
Blue Caeru - [BlueCaeru@cs.com]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 06:27:31 PM
IP: spider-th051.proxy.aol.com

Warpmind said:
<<Skippy: I agree on your comment on B5 personality change versus Star Trek stagnation... though, I must admit, I enjoyed watching Picard go berserk with a Thompson in Star Trek: First Contact...>>
Yeah it was fun, but Picard was back to being himself bythe end of the movie...

Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, November 28, 1999 05:11:13 PM
IP: 207.22.234.102

Toy Story 2 -- great movie! Not a thing in there that I disliked. It was visually terrif, the story was delightful, the acting was good, lots of in-jokes. It made Becca cry about her Darth Vader shoes, which we sold at a yard sale because they were way too small, and I'm sure it brought up those sort of loss issues for many a kid. And did I feel a touch of guilt about my Gargoyles collection? Yeah, I did ... but Tim pointed out that I'm not like the people he sees in the store, adults who come in and glom onto 20 boxes of Pokemon cards and he then has to tell little kids who only want one pack that he's out ... because I know that I collect not for profit but for love ...

Slight delay with AvMists, but I hope to have it posted Monday.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 01:34:38 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Just one Thing
Stupid Customer of the Day.
My brother works at Petsmart and some guy came in to talk about Car Stereos

Good Digimon today. They showed Wilek's favorite WereGarurumon again. I am a bit curious on what the ultimate forms of Ikkakumon,Togamon,and Angelmon will look like.

Speaking of Digimon they now have trading cars and action figures.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, November 28, 1999 12:33:41 PM
IP: user-37kap6t.dialup.mindspring.com

*Walks into the CR, reading a news printout.* Hmm... okay, that's one wacky fella... *Looks around at the other CR inhabitants.* Says here some nutcase ran naked into St. Andrews in London, wielding a sword, and managed to injure nine people before he was stopped. What is this world coming to... though, considering Christine was asked if she'd had any supernatural experiences with elves... kinda makes me wonder if humanity has a future, after all...

Well, might as well check out. Got a lot of stuff to move from my old place to my new one, and I gotta get what I've already moved into closets and drawers... makes me wish... hmmm... *Picks up a wooden stick, and starts singing.* Hockety pockety... umm... damn. I can't remember the lyrics... oh, well, might as well do it the hard way, then...

Later, oh ladies, gentlemen and regulars.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:57:18 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

WEll, Mike and I are back in HOuston, and safe and sound :) We were very worried about our apt being burgurlized but it was okay - big sigh of relief. :) I don't know if I have told you all but the incompetant management has managed to put up (after one year) the gates, but failed to put up the perimeter fence. - Uhm, what good is a door without the walls?? I swear the incompetance of this place is comical at times.

Well, at least we are moving this weekend, YEAH!!!!! TO A PLACE THAT HAS BOTH PERIMETER FENCES, AND GATES!!! YEA!!! :)

One of the most interesting things, is that besides being across the street from a police station, we will also be on the same street as a Masque. I don't know if any one knows, but there are many different nationalites in HOuston. Many times I go to walmart and see the Muslim ladies with their veils. some wear the entire tradional garb, some where only the head veil with their jeans.

At Thanks giving I told my Uncle and Aunt about this masque. They have lived around the world in several places, because my Uncle was with Arco Oil and Gas in the heyday of Oil and Gas. So they said that when they lived next to a masque every morning, when they could tell the differance between a black thread and a white thread, they would get on the loudspeakers and begin the chant to bring people to prayer. She said it was a very interesting sound. Mike and I didn't see any speakers on the masque that is going to be next to us, but even if there are, I would much rather hear that than our neighbors get into another knock down drag out, call the cops kind of domestic squabble.

needless to say, I'm looking forward to the move- but not the packing we have to do today.

Thanksgiving was pretty cool. My mother in law knew I liked Pikachu so she got me the last gold trading card of him at Burger King. :)

********************Spoliers for Beast Machines************

Excellent. One of the parallels I am noticing is the parallel of Megatron to Hitler. (am I the only one seeing this ?) Hitler wanted to make everyone an Aryan clone and exterminte all who opposed him, or was not part of the Aryan race. While he himself was not the blonde, blue eyes, fit Aryan he was setting up this whole system. Megatron wants to destroy all that is organic, all of its variey for a planet of clones. Yet he himself is organic. Coincidence? If this is not- I must say the writers have done an excellent job. The veicons really do remind me of Nazis both in their manner and they way they backstab eachother to rise in the ranks. Also many scientists thought Hitler's final soltion was logical and embraced it- Like Rinox the scientist is doing with Megatron's new order.

Another parallel I see is they way this is dividing old friendships and old loves. I dont' think Rinox or Silverbolt can ever be brought back- and that makes it all the more tragic and realistic. Once your friend decides to go to the side of evil, that willingly embraces soulstealing/genocide- your friendship can really never be the same again. Really, you cannot be friends anymore at all. That is one thing I love about the writing in this show- they know that war has many types of casualties.

Nightscream- I am really beginning like this kid. He comes across as a breath of fresh air and I like the impertance of his youth. I also like the realtionship he and Optimis have. And was glad to see the animators had the chonas to put Optimus putting his arm around Nightscream in a comforting way. Men don't touch and if they do in televion- (esp. prime time- it's done only because they are homosexual)That's really sad, in my opinon. One of the things I like about Beast Machines, which I also loved in gargs is that there is not a fear of touching. Goliath hugs Brooklyn and Lex when he returns from his Avalon tour, and there is such pure joy in their expressions. In beast machines, Optimus calls Nightscream "son" and embraces him in a comforting fashion when the younger is racked with guilt over his survival and selfishness. I like that.

Pokemon spoilers- I like the movie. I really do. I like the way they addressed the entire cloning issue. One thing it also brought up in a subtle way was the way clones had no rights. Mewtwo had no rights, he was informed that he was made to serve, and that is all. If human cloning ever happens I think this will be the approach many will have to them. Clones wont have a SSN , a birth certificate, or any citizanship of any kind. If you don't exist to the state as a person, then your property. If your property- then you are a slave.

About the end of the movie- I liked it. The Pokemon were fighting not out of sportman ship (like in the martial arts competion type way) but fighting out of hatred and fear. I think that was the point. And people either got it or they don't. Some one once said that pokemon reminded them of cock fighting- I don't think it does at all. First off if you ever see cock fighting- it isn't pretty- one of the birds usually ends up severly injured at best, dead at worst. To me Pokemon battles remind me more of martial arts competions, where there is a focus on the skill of fighting. It is not life threatening, and usually the two fighters have no grudge with each other- either before or after the match. I mean whenever ash and comp. make a new friend they say, "Let's have a battle." --it reminds me of two martial artist saying "let's spar" Very different from "Lets get our animals together and see them tear each other's throat out and bet on the winner" or "Let's kick eachother's arse".

Again, people either get it or they don't. As this is such a japanese way of looking at things, I think it went over alot of american critics heads.

Pokemon ep- well I must say I felt it was good Ash lost, and then Richie- it was realistic, and felt like it didn't cheat the viewers. I can't stand shows, but esp. cartoons, where the heros always wins. It's a lie first off, and it lacks so much depth as far as writing. I really liked the way they handled the issue of losing, and they way they saw it was a way to make them better.

Again, this "almost zen" approach reminded me of the martial arts. Where the focus is on the inside, not of the fray's of battle- but I digress

********************end of spoilers************************

Pokemon question- here they did not show the match between Richie and Ash- they only eluded to it in the ep's prologue. Was that the same everywhere else? Or was it just a fluke here? If it wasn't does anyone know why they didn't show the fight??

***Looks at post****

Whew!! Well that was a humdinger!!!!
jenna
Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:42:39 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-226.hstntx.swbell.net

Hi, guys. Back in business, with a wacky dream fresh in memory... how many of you guys have dreamt "Romeo and Juliet" in a modern setting, more specifically, where you grew up, and placed yourself in one of the title roles? I have now... and it was rather... disturbing, particularly when everything started becoming surreal...

Okay, on to the replies, I guess.

Demona: Hi, Demona. What are you doing in this neck of the woods? And why is your Caps Lock stuck?

Gside: That might be the most correct translation... but the translation I saw was "Gods, what a night." It was in reference to a party in the then-so-decadent Rome...

Christine: Oooh, hey, that was nice of you... :)

*Hands Pistoff a small two-barreled weapon of unidentifiable origin.* Hey, Pissy, if you want a word with those nurses and stuff, take this .20 gauge. Just remember, it's so sawed-off, you gotta be within ten feet...

Wilek: Oooh, you've seen "Dirty Work", too? That was HILARIOUS! Like the scene toward the end... "Do you remember saying THIS?" *Turns on small recorder.* "Memo to self: Inflatable dolls are NOT as good as advertised." *Both blink.* "No, I don't..." "Aw, damn, wound to far... here..." Great movie... and, yes, I recognized the basic idea... hmmm... how'd y'all say we start an international "Revenge For Hire" company?

Mara: Actually, "Jane Bux" might well have been Bastian's mother's name. After all, the name Bastian gives to the Gold-eyed Child-Empress is "Moonchild", if my memory serves. (And, considering I read that book a dozen times, last time about two weeks ago, I think my memory DOES serve...) But frankly, of the three movies, to my knowledge, the first was the better, and the one closest to the book, while the second was just... depressing, and the third, well, let's just say that Norway was mercifully spared... I much prefer the book.

Toku Kaioto: Out of sheer curiosity... that midi... what does an accursed sea-mammal have to do with Castlevania?

Skippy: I agree on your comment on B5 personality change versus Star Trek stagnation... though, I must admit, I enjoyed watching Picard go berserk with a Thompson in Star Trek: First Contact...

Delphi: Bubba Claus... ROTFLMAO

Well, gotta post and shut down, but here's a little Creativity Demon:

A Dart Board with Darth Vader on one side and Darth Maul on the other... it's the Darth Board...

Well, gotta scoot, got things to check, so I'll catch y'all later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, November 28, 1999 09:51:47 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi all!!

Man,it's quiet in here today.

Deuce:Welcome back!

Demona:Welcome!:)

Wilek:<<Cute page, but I have the uncontrollable urge to Joyride whoever wrote that MID file...>>You too!?!>:)

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sunday, November 28, 1999 05:41:22 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

**RP!**

[In a corner of the infirmary, the black-cloaked Halfling Anoth Mitaxis stands and broods, knowing something is very, very wrong. So deep in his introspection is he that a voice from beside him startles him... Forfexx: "You sense it as well?" Anoth: "Something out of place...something not right..." Forfexx: "Yes...I think some of the Ravens suspect it as well...We'd both better keep our eyes open, brother. There are games afoot..."]

**END!**

Anne> <<I got an idea! We should celebrate the Solstice Night as a clan of the CR! That way we have happiness and each other's company to look forward to in case our holidays revolving around Christmas or New Year get ruined like Thanksgiving. Seriously, this is the last year of this century! The last Thanksgiving of this century! People are going to be looking back into history books and seeing that most people were having the worst Thanksgiving during this year! Why make any more holidays just as bad when we should be together and savor it's warmth?>> I quite like it. :) <<they had insects, such as flies, centipedes, etc, caught in the center of suckers (like it was traded for the gum in the center).>> Ewwww...<gag>

Christine> Best Disembowelments? Wasn't aware you were a fellow gorehound. ;)

Sarge> <<the old aol garg room....::Sniffs:: .....what a great room...>> Glad to see *something* good came out of AOL. :P

Deuce> <<It contains, of all things, an homage to The Princess Bride! The Princess Bride! It's awesome.>> The Princess Bride?! Wow...Now I HAVE to get this book! :D

Delphi> Cute page, but I have the uncontrollable urge to Joyride whoever wrote that MID file...

Robby> <<Just saw Scooby Doo and the Witche's Ghost, and is it just me or did Ben Ravencroft look a LOT like Xanatos? With Sevarius' voice?>> I once saw a few minutes of that movie, and I thought exactly the same thing! O_o

SJ> <<Good episode today....well, I've thought they were all good, frankly.>> Which may explain why forces unknown are conspiring to keep me from ever seeing more than one or two episodes...<sigh> Ah well; I managed to find synopses of Beast Wars and Reboot; may as well do the same here...

$Doug> <<Please remember RP continuity in future posts, okay? :) Hope the above bit was able to fix things up.>> Ah. <bangs head repeatedly against the nearest wall, putting a dent in it (whether in the wall or the head is left to the imagination of the reader)> Have I ever mentioned that I'm An Idiot? :} Sorry about that (and I hope I didn't disrupt anything else you were planning. o_o'). Ah well, at least you were able to fix it (thanks for that)...I can't *believe* I did that...<resumes head-banging>$
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, November 28, 1999 02:53:25 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

*begin RP* the deadly seven decide to head over to the infarmary for their own various reasons, Doc to speak to the medical staff and discuss methods, Fenrir, Abel and Flyp to speak to the ones who helped put and end to the phalanx, and Shogun to "have some words with Sevarius Senior
Shogun steps over to the elder geneticist
"ah, Dr. Anton Sevarius I presume?"
Sevarius turns to see the mutate"
"and who might you be?"
"Shogun raptor, I belive we've met before"
"forgive my skepticism, but somehow I think I would remember meeting a seven-foot tall winged sauroid in samurai armor"
"perhaps you remember that lab in the montana badlands, say in June of 1997"
"I was nowhere near Montana in 1997, but perhaps..." Sevarius handed shogun a pair of computer discs
"the red one contains a copy of all of my work on mutation, mutagens, splicing DNA, things of that sort, the green one contains a list of my past colleagues and contacts, perhaps they can help you sort out your mess, I would enjoy helping you sort out where and what you are but I want to be here with my son, my captivity at the hands of the Phalanx has been quite.... well let's just say I'm not in the mood to go traipsing off with you and your troupe to heaven-knows where to face who knows what"
the members of the seven meet back in their makeshift quarters
"what was that about" asks doc
"I'm not really sure" replies shogun"all I wanted to do was to thank him for the mutation and here I am looking through his stuff, let's see here, Dr. Felix Ikari, Kirk Watson, Dr. Kane Lucard-Summers..
Abel dropped his tankard of bloodwine and dashed over to the terminal
"Kane Lucard-summers, so it would seem my lost twin brother isn't as lost as first thought, you framed me for the murder of my beloved wife Lillith, now the fires of vengeance have been rekindled"
*end RP*

Movie reviews

Sleepy Hollow: a vintage burton film, although with more cleavage than I've come to expect from him, still it was a good film, Ian Mcdarmid as the doctor Ray Park as one of the stunt actors as the horsemen, all we needed was james Earl Jones and we'd have Sleepy Hollow: A fistful of Darths

Pokemon:save for the moral being crammed down your throat and the cr@ppy fate of Mewtwo it was actually mildly entertaining, although at some parts the jokes I did were better than what was going on onscreen, all in all a fine candidate for the MST3k treatment

shogun raptor
Sunday, November 28, 1999 02:14:55 AM
IP: user-38lddjc.dialup.mindspring.com

**RP HERE (note- it occurs before Asil's communication to Thailog from her hotel, since I'm solving a continuity mistake Wilek made)**

At the Wal-Mart, a long line of carts approaches the express checkout line. They are each pushed by a member of the Dirty Laundry Gang, with Asil walking in front. "Hold it, lady!" the clerk calls to her. "Fifteen items or less! You want to buy all that stuff, go over there!" "Sorry," Asil raises her BFG rifle and laughs. "I'm not buying." With that she fires and blows the wailing clerk out the front display window. Kit's evil clone then waves at the Dirty Laundry Gang and they push out, rushing to their vehicles and dodging screaming frantic shoppers and employees. Asil has to shoot a few more people before they arrive. Finally they reach the laundry truck and Lexus and the DLG begins loading while Asil covers them against the approaching store security guys. Solomon Brand and Choketaur run out just behind them and are both inadvertently knocked down and unconscious by a BFG blast. "Careful with those nitro ingredients!" Nylon Man is meanwhile yelling at Scrubber and Bleach Man, who unceremoniously throw the last bags of stuff into the laundry truck's rear. "Load up!" Asil shouts, noting the sound of approaching sirens and the four strange-looking beings running towards the fallen Choketaur and Brand. "We need to get out of here!" She then runs for her Lexus and jumps in as Staina slams the trunk. The two vehicles then tear out of the parking lot and onto the expressway too fast for Brand's party to follow. (I assume they'll be picking them up later after they hear Asil's conversation with Thailog though). "Where to now?" Detergent shouts at Asil as they leave the cops behind. "Back to the hotel!" she calls back. "We need to get the special weapons prepared and report to Thailog! Let's go!" Detergent nods and they keep moving, still followed by a spy droid.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everybody. Well, Kit and I just got back from our Thanksgiving trip. :) It was fun, pretty much. Our families got on surprisingly well together, and though Mom was her usual pain-in-the-@$$ self, it wasn't that difficult to bear. Most of all, we got to eat good food and watch some good movies (reviews below). Hope that most of you had a similarly nice holiday, sorry to see that so many didn't. :( Will pick up fanfic again tomorrow. On to replies.

GXB: Thanks for the feedback, hope to soon get more from you. Glad you enjoyed ID1, and the developments. As for your question about Demona and Seth, I can't answer it because I don't know what you're thinking. We'll just see what happens, okay? :)

Jenna: Like I said, whenever you can get to it is fine. :) Don't worry, I have been called Dave by people before. (Often base my role-playing style off the character of that name in Knights of the Dinner Table.)

Gside: <Does Macbeth keep himself in shape or is it the spell?> I don't know. And personally I always saw Falstaff as middle-aged, maybe I was wrong.

Buffy and Angel This Week: Enjoyed both, even if Buffy was a little preachy (the Spike bits made up for that) and Angel was sad at the end. Both had decent developments, great emotion (though Angel succeeded better) and good plot. Kit, Todd, and SJ have already said everything else, hope Whedon continues with stories that are more interesting and entertaining than preachy or full of not-so-great humor (like the Thanksgiving and beer episodes of Buffy and the bachelor party one of Angel were IMO) ahead.

Pistoff: Look forward to your next feedback soon. Re- Ending the Bonfire- Personally, I hope the Bonfire tradition continues. I understand your viewpoint, but like Kit said one tragedy should not spoil the event for future generations. They'll probably find a way for the Bonfire to come back safer next year (and hopefully smaller, too) and that will be better than not doing it at all. Yeah, stopping it might seem like a good idea from some perspectives but you didn't grow up in a family that had a tradition of going to A&M (a tradition I rebelled against by attending UT, but that's beside the point). If you knew of the camaraderie akin to that spawned in this CR that the Bonfire creates among A&M students every year (and UT students this one as well), I don't think you would have made such statements about it. After all, the tradition is about more than football. It's also about school spirit, friendship, honor, bonding together, good humor, and enjoying oneself- all things that no tragedy (no matter how bad it is) should be able to erase.

Wilek: $ Please remember RP continuity in future posts, okay? :) Hope the above bit was able to fix things up. $ Thanks to you and everyone else who wished us a good Thanksgiving and missed us while we were gone.

Bond: Licence to Kill happens to be my favorite Bond film overall, I liked its plot differences from the others and seeing James actually get a little character development throughout. <sighs> I miss his gadgets too, hope they use them more in the next one.

SOROW: Glad you and Joe are enjoying your time together and making plans for a wonderful future. :) Thanks for the Duncan Sheik lyrics too, I think I'll be picking that song up. <grin>

Coyote: Re loneliness- Man, I know how that feels. :( Stephen and Ironwolf have given you some great advice on how to deal with the crisis, I'll second it. One of the lessons I've learned about life is that things are easiest when you don't worry too much and let events come as they will. Doing so helped me to emotionally survive before Kit entered my life. :) Hope you are soon able to do the same thing or something else to make yourself feel happier, Kit and I will be praying for you. Glad you had a decent Thanksgiving despite the obnoxious kids and the pain. :)

Deuce: We've missed you too, glad to see you back. :) Hope that soon you can return again.

SJ: Actually, believe it or not, I'm glad A&M won the game. They needed the picker-upper. Since I'm not a football fan and didn't watch, I'm not sure why UT lost, but <shrugs> it doesn't really matter. Next year we'll be able to beat A&M with a clear conscience. Hopefully. :)

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR WEEKEND MOVIES**

Princess Mononoke: Kit and I saw it Thursday night with our families. Did it live up to the hype? Yes! It was a great movie, a true classic, I don't know the words to express its beauty. The acting and plot were excellent, the animation was beautiful, and the action and developments all flowed well and made for a wonderfully entertaining story. The characters were also wonderful, some of the best I've ever seen in anime (especially liked Lady Eboshi, Astikawa(sp?), and San). I could easily see why the film won so many awards in Japan, hope it wins some here when the time comes. 10/10, thumbs skyhigh. If it's in your town, go see it now! :)

Toy Story 2: Saw it Wednesday, and well, it was definitely better than the first one. The toys had more personality and development this time around, and there was a much better plot. The new characters were all interesting and well-acted, especially Pete and Undeveloped Buzz Lightyear (Developed Buzz, the holdover from the first movie, was good too but I liked the other Buzz more). Joan Cusack did a decent job as Jessie, though some of her lines made me yawn. Especially liked the uplifting ending and the jokes, which were pretty good. I recommend this film too. 9/10, thumbs up.

End of Days: Saw this one last night (we had to get away from the family), it was not as good as I expected but still a masterpiece. The action and plot were of the sort that really grabs an audience and holds them riveted up to the end, and the script was good despite its holes. Arnold did an excellent job in his developing emotional unusual role, and so did Gabriel Byrne and Robin Tunney in their preformances (I actually thought Byrne did a better job as Satan than he did as a priest earlier this year :). Kevin Pollak was decent too. The effects were also very well-done and the action was great. I would definitely recommend this film to any horror, action, Arnold, or apocalypse thriller fans. It does have its demerits though, which include numerous plot holes (they only say Arnold's name twice, and never say most of the other characters', expecting us to know them. There's also a lot of points where a great scene could have been put in but was not); a few unnecessary sex scenes that do nothing for the plot but make you wonder about Satan (what the HECK was going on in that threesome?), and some unbelievable power displays from the Devil (why didn't he just chuck fireballs at the cars instead of urinating gasoline? Yeah, it was a good action bit, but still...). Also didn't appreciate the lack of development on the Holy Knights and Satanic cult. Still, though, this was a great movie for its acting and action alone, so I can forgive the mistakes. 8.3/10, thumbs up.

**MOVIE SPOILERS END**

<sighs> I guess that's about everything, thanks to the slow week. Again, I hope everyone had a good holiday and found some things to be thankful for. Mine were Kit, my sister, the good movies, the excellent food, all the friends I have in here and RL, and in general surviving another year in this crazy world. Hope more such things are ahead for me. Same to you, and later! <waves>

**MORE RP, SHORT ONE**

Doug and Kit's party enter the infirmary just as SJ is awakening, smiling as they see Kari leaning down to hold his hand. "Is he alright?" Wilek asks Corrie, who grunts assent. Sevarius Sr. smiles at his son, then looks up at them. "Ah," he says. "More of Junior's friends. Don't worry about him, I think he's going to be okay." Doug nods. "We hope so." He and Kit walk over to stand by Kari while Shap steps back and frowns. "What is it?" Shauna whispers to him. "Detect evil is going nuts," the paladin hisses back. "Can't pinpoint the source of it, but I know it's not SJ's father." Shauna raises an eyebrow and looks as worried as he. Kit, who has heard them, tries to hide her own concern, as do Erin, Orion, and Gubio. The others do not hear, and they cluster around SJ. He looks up at them and smiles. "Glad to see you're all alright," he says. "Not as glad as we are to see you fine," says Lathrop. "Are you feeling better?" "A little tired," SJ grins. "But I'll be okay." "Good," Doug replies. "We were really worried about you, man." "Yeah," Kari nods. "All of us were." She leans forward and pecks the happy-looking SJ on the cheek as the screen fades out.

**TO BE CONTINUED SOON (HOPEFULLY), END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, November 28, 1999 12:58:17 AM
IP: pool-207-205-149-222.dlls.grid.net

Slow night...slow WEEK after all...not much too say.

***BEAST MACHINES SPOILERS****
Good episode today....well, I've thought they were all good, frankly. The Diagnostic Droid is a nice, Owen-type villain. And it was very interesting to see that Rhinox/Tankor, of all robots, is suddenly proving that he's the real threat to the Maximals. It's a shame that his spark couldn't be saved, but I must say I am very pleased that the writers had the testicular fortitude to so drastically change one of their main characters.
***END BEAST MACHINES SPOILERS***

***SPOILERS FOR LAST EPISODE OF HERCULES***
I know that this show has come under fire numerous times due its very loose telling of classic mythology, but I've always enjoyed it. It's been fun, and being a fan of mythology, it was nice to see it being done week after week, even if it was not the most factual. Tonight they aired the series finale, bringing the show to a close after several initial tv movies and roughly five and a half seasons of "legendary adventures".
Better endings to a show I have seen.
I suppose it is because of my immersion in big budget action found in the various forms of pop culture, be it movies, tv, books, comics, etc., that has led me to desire a huge climax to a beloved story. I didn't get that here. Rather, I felt the show ended less with a bang, more with a whimper. It had all the makings of a classic big finale--a few of those pesky Titans were loose and Hera, Herc's long-time nemesis, was back from the Abyss of Tarturus. Could have been a fight to rock the heavens, huh? Not quite. The Titans were short work, and Hera didn't do a heck of a lot. No big fight. Just lots of COMEDY. Personally, I've felt that the show has suffered from far to many "funny" episodes as of late, and not too many serious ones (i.e. the same thing happening to Chris Carter's "Days of Our--"...er, I mean "X-Fles"). I wanted a big sendoff, a tribute to some of the shows more flashier battles. I didn't want lots of jokes and cheesy special effects. I thought last season was nicely done--you had the season-spanning storyline of Iolaus being dead, then possessed, then redeemed. This season....just comedy....which worked with Herc. Just not all the time, every episode. I'm afraid that the series ender left me feeling a bit hollow. Sort of like the DS9 ending. I thought the show had degenerated quite a bit during the last couple of seasons, but the finale left me very, very cold--especially when Sisko, a character I had grown to enjoy as much as any other Star Trek captain, had such an anticlimactic death scene.
It just gets you, as a fan. You invest years with a show, if it's fortunate enough to last a few seasons, you invest dozens if not hundreds of hours with a program, and...well, you just expect them to do you right and give you a proper send off. I really actually didn't have to have some big battle in the Hercules finale, that was just a matter of personal preference, but something better than what I finally saw on my screen would have been preferable.
I still feel that the best example of how a series should end is Babylon 5. I damn near cried at that, and I NEVER cry about anything. It was a nice tribute to the fans who stuck with the show, and was a lovely ending to a lovely series. It got me. Wish the Herc finale could have done the same thing.
***END HERC SPOILERS***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, November 27, 1999 11:19:56 PM
IP: 207-172-44-165.s165.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Just saw Scooby Doo and the Witche's Ghost, and is it just me or did Ben Ravencroft look a LOT like Xanatos? With Sevarius' voice?
Robby
Saturday, November 27, 1999 10:06:01 PM
IP: spider-tn074.proxy.aol.com

This is fun: click my name for a link to find out about bubba claus,

delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Saturday, November 27, 1999 07:18:03 PM
IP: twin5927.magiclink.com

What am I thankful for? Let's see...

Denis, Fred, Michael (my son), Denis, friends in Mini and my newest friends here :), having the necessities of life, Denis, Juanita & Taco - my chihuahuas, friends who have been supportive this past year, Denis ;), employment, my baby brother, and I have mentioned Denis? *g*
I've grateful for all that I have in my life! I know that my blessings are many :)
Jannie
Saturday, November 27, 1999 06:58:26 PM
IP: 168.171.197.19

*sigh* My brother rented an N64 for the weekend, so he's irrevokably plugged in for the weekend. My sister's out on her birthday party with my mom, and my dad's out of town. I might as well have the house to myself.

Hey, has anyone heard that new Natalie Imbruglia song "Identify", off the Stigmata soundtrack? Horrendous movie, but since Billy Corgan did all the music, the soundtrack is perfect. (Billy also wrote "Identify", which is a seriously haunting song).

Lousy Thanksgiving: Mine was last month, and involved very little familial interaction—thank God. I symapthise with all of you who had a bad holiday. *hugs* Hope you feel better now that you're free until Christmas.

NEW PEOPLE> Hi everybody! I'm Deuce, the erstwhile kinda-co-administrator of this nuthouse. Hope to get to know y'all, since I've been gone so long. :-/

Wilek re: "I, Q"> Goddamn, that book is hilarious. I know Peter David's writing fairly well, so I can say that John de Lancie has a twisted sense of humour. It contains, of all things, an homage to The Princess Bride! The Princess Bride! It's awesome.

Gside re: pics> ["...the only link is on the updates page, not the main one."] Not that I noticed. Click where it says "{photos}" right above the flashing "New section!" notifier. ["BTW, what's with the smile in the grade X picture?"] o_O Oh, glory. The idiot behind the camera refused to snap the shot until I smiled, so, being the irrepressible smartass that I am....

I am a month and a half late in being thankful for:
- whatever precious seconds I get with Catherine
- whatever milliseconds I get on the computer
- everybody here (love you guys!)
- Billy Corgan (heheheh) and music in general
- my friends at school, esp. Ashley, Mike, and Jeff
- that delightful-smelling perfume Jacquie wears
- Penny Arcade comics (penny-arcade.com)

Voyager: Bleccch. All the stories SUCK. The only reason I watch the show anymore is because Jeri Ryan and Bob Picardo are such great actors. That reminds me... it's on tonight....

Coyote> ["...you guys are getting ready for the Grey Cup if I'm not mistaken."] You're not. But since the loserEskimos aren't in it, I don't watch. :-P

OK, I'm gone, but I should be on AOL for the rest of the afternoon if anyone wants to chat. TTYL!

** with hugs all around, Deuce leaves **
Simon*Deuce - [<== visit my site]
Saturday, November 27, 1999 04:39:37 PM
IP: jts2-98.connect.ab.ca

**trudges in the CR** Happy post-turkey day hangover folks ... oh wait, that's not so happy ...

**sigh** Thanksgiving started off pretty decently, but kinda went downhill when we went to my aunt's house for dinner ... and were subjected to my cousin's discipline-impaired kids for two hours. Oyy ... three kids ranging in age from 13 to 5, screaming around the house ... Deuce, man, I admire your maturity and I wish the eldest of these kids had it.
One magilla of a migraine later ... I came home and chatted for a while. Then Friday I worked, then today I come home to see two packages (eBay purchases) on the doorstep. One of these was a pair of cute gargoyle bookends.
Check that ... one of these was a *broken* pair of cute gargoyle bookends. **rolls his eyes, rubbing his temples** Suffice to say, this is gonna be a forgettable Thanksgiving, I think ...

Pissy: Man, that really sucks ... who's running that damn hospital, anyway, the Three Stooges?
Thanks for your opinion on my situation ... really, I think you've hit upon my problem right there. That's the kind of thing that I miss ...

Deuce: Yeah, while we're getting regular season football right now, you guys are getting ready for the Grey Cup if I'm not mistaken. :)

Mara, re: Neverending Story: Hoo boy ... you do *not* want to know the petty argument I got into with my ex about that movie ... suffice it to say it came down to what John Wesley Shipp's name is. (She thought his last name was Snipes ... which is a whoooooooole other Wesley ... and absolutely would not listen to me when I tried to tell her, even though she also knew he was the guy who played the Flash.) Although I do agree ... "Neverending Story" does belong in a place of honor on my all time fave movie list ... I just never seem to get to name it when I make that list for some reason ... :)

Gside: Sounds very familiar ... a friend of mine in college (saxophone player) broke his thumb during the marching season (he marched as a Big Ten flag carrier), and didn't know it ... so it healed completely wrong. But the weird thing was, it actually *improved* his hand posture with his horn ... go fig.

Anne: Y'know, that's a very good idea. **spots Rosanna at the door, she whispers something to him** Oh ... okay, I'll tell her. She says she'll drop by only if ya let her sing. :)

As for what I'm thankful for ... I think the only thing I could possibly be thankful for is that I have a heart to break at all ... and have not been turned hard and cruel by my life's experience.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, November 27, 1999 03:24:33 PM
IP: zzz-209252248067.splitrock.net

AOL GARG CLAN TRIBUTE is now Up! If you Role played in the old aol garg room....::Sniffs:: .....what a great room....then here is a page contributing to the members......The main part of my page has been updated as well...but not much going on.....

Beast Machines-- AUGH! I want to see next episode!! SO BAD! I wonder if Cybertron was once Earth...Hmmmm...I can imagine ratrap digging through the ground and seeing Dinobot's shatter head appear.....he he he

Gotta go......lots-o-homework....

Sarge Abernathy
ICQ=54474034
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Saturday, November 27, 1999 02:41:48 PM
IP: spider-tq011.proxy.aol.com

SJ> I agree about Voyager, my big problem is the overuse of the magic reset button on the show. The recent episode where Tuvok lost his memory and had a massive personality change is the worst example. Tuvok lost his stoic bland Vulcan persona and became a personable sensitve individual. Naturally they turn him right back into fully Vulcan mode by the end of the episode.

It's always been a problem with Trek to take the characters through these hellacious transformations and then set them right back where they were as if nothing happened. I think it would have been interesting to see Tuvok remain the way he was and allow him to develop in a new manner. But allowing the characters to become something more than the flattwo dimensional characterizations that the producers invisioned when they wrote the show bible is just against tradition...

I've always respected Babylon 5 more for being willing to change things to allow the story to develop and the characters to change. Sheridan was not the same charcter at the end of the series, neither was Garibaldi, and Delenn sure the hell wasn't. Picard on the other hand was pretty much the same Earl Grey drinking, politically corrrect Captain we've seen since day one.

Trek does need to take a break. Let Voyager go out, and take a hiatus for two or three years. Another thing that needs to happen is to get Berman and co. out of the production office. I hope to god that Paramount would fire the lot of them (escpecially Brannon Braga) and get some fresh faces into the producers chair. The current staff has just been running through the motions for over a decade and it's just getting tired...
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, November 27, 1999 12:12:50 PM
IP: 207.22.234.80

Anne > what other books have I read? Oh, a list would flood this room to the point of catastrophe! I collect everything by: King, Koontz, McCammon, Saul, Andrews (well, I may be over that one; they've gotten worse lately and considering where they started ...), and Auel. I collect horror erotica and humorous fantasy. I have all the Xanth books, all the Deryni books, most of David Eddings, Tolkien, most of the Wild Card series, too many Dragonlance books, some Michael Crichton (his new one, Timeline, looks great if anyone was wondering what to get me for Xmas <g>), I own a lot of Gor books (shameful as it is to admit), all the Pern books, and lots, lots more.

Christine's Book Awards:
Scariest Book Ever -- The Hot Zone by Preston.
Best Book Ever -- Raptor Red by Bakker.
Nightmare-inducing -- The Keepsake by some guy I can't remember.
Only book I ever took back to the store after reading it: Shadow Moon, sequel to the movie Willow (total stinker!)
Best Debut Novel: Meg, by Steve Alten.
Only romance novels I read (probably startling to some, but true): Bertrice Small's Skye O'Malley series.
Winner of the "What's all the fuss about?" award: tie between Robert Jordan and Anne Rice.
Best Disembowelments: Clive Barker.
Most Blatant Literary Mary-Sue: Dumas, for the character of D'Artagnan.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Saturday, November 27, 1999 11:33:25 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

*walks into CR and sees everybody sad*

Uh-oh. *Hugs everybody* Jeez, if this was the last Thanksgiving of the century then I can't WAIT till next year rolls around :( Hey! I got an idea! We should celebrate the Solstice Night as a clan of the CR! That way we have happiness and each other's company to look forward to in case our holidays revolving around Christmas or New Year get ruined like Thanksgiving. Seriously, this is the last year of this century! The last Thanksgiving of this century! People are going to be looking back into history books and seeing that most people were having the worst Thanksgiving during this year! Why make any more holidays just as bad when we should be together and savor it's warmth? Please don't laugh--this could be fun, ya know! ^_^

As for Thanksgiving, mine was okay, but I've been to better. What I'm thankful for:
What little sanity my family has gained over the year.
My family for what goodness they have done and what wisdom they have experienced.
The CR clan for their support and friendship, fun and fanfic, and because we all have saved each other in more ways then one.
My kitties for bringing happiness when I couldn't find it before.
My friends for their support and fun.
Chocolate (8D) because it's so yummy.
Freedom because not being free would suck.
Music, because music strengthens freedom and is good for the soul.
Homeschooling, because I get to experience more time with the better side of my family.
I am thankful for Gargoyles, for this show is what has helped many of us during the last few years.
I am thankful for many more things, such as scented candles, books, television, cars, etc., but the list gets too long after a while. These are the main things that I am thankful for, and also for this sappiness because it feels good to release all the sadness I've seen and the horrors I've felt with friends who actually care :)

Now let's get onto replies (I won't be so e-mot-tion-al now!):)

Kaioto> <<Lexy>>It's nice to hear that, except for the whole computer thing. umm...I've been wondering this a long time, but I'm really overly curious to find out...what does "chan" mean? And you don't waste our time writing! It's nice to get a long post, especially since we're all a little exhausted from Thanksgiving and need to get happy again :) BTW, kewl music!

Pistoff><<I snapped somewhere around the 8th grade and started thinking up ways of scaring people. It's amazing what you can do with a rubber surgical glove>> *LOL* I probably would have snapped if I remained in school, except my parents pulled me out for homeschooling. The plan originally was for my little sister to be homeschooled since the elementary was giving our family the most BS, but we were going through a money crises and they decided that I could watch over Lindsay while they went to work, but in order to do that I was to be yanked from school. I didn't mind--I _wanted_ to learn at home because of all the bad things that have been happening around here. The bad teachers at school were mangling my family even though we didn't do anything. The better teachers I would have stayed for in school, but then there's the whole beauty rant, yadda yadda yadda. I hope you and everybody else find your love soon too, and keep faith in that because that's partly what keeps me going everyday. In my personal times, it seems like the world darkens and I'm clenched with brimming tears and I can't stop trembling, but things are looking up for the best, and will be best if we keep hoping. Don't mean to preach, sorry about that. Now I'm just babbling, but thanks for your support and comfort ;)

SJ> Ack! I think your monkey meal ruined my appetite for an early breakfast. Other then it be disgusting, it's very entertaining and... interesting.... For some strange reason it reminds me of the time my dad took me to the comic book store and they had insects, such as flies, centipedes, etc, caught in the center of suckers (like it was traded for the gum in the center). Yum....

Medusa, Demona> Welcome to the CR. Don't worry about all this talk about removing insanity--it's normal stuff gone weird ^_^

Christine> Hmm...what other books have you read? I'd post the rest of my book collection but I can't find them--my parents cleaned the house until it was completely spotless of even germs, so they probably took my books into the scary basement 0_0 As for Jericho...good luck with that one!

Wilek, Jenna,Coyote, & all others> Thanks for your help immensely! Gull, if only I could find those missing files!! Anyway, if I don't find them, then I'll just move on (which I'm all ready doing). Once again thank you!

Zath><<Green Mile>> *moans* Ack! I want to see that movie soooo bad! It may have Tom Hanks in it, but I've read the books and when you read the books it's pretty hard resisting a good-looking movie based on those books! Hopefully they'll show it here in a while.

Anyway, morning cartoons are on and I promised to tape them for Lindsay (she's sleeping) and--crap, I'm late! Ohhhh no! Gotta run! Byee!
Anne
MN, USA
Saturday, November 27, 1999 08:27:04 AM
IP: 209-130-164-51.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Everyone having bad Thanksgivings> More? :( Let's hope things turn around, and fast. <group hugZ>

Fire Storm> <<You forgot "I, Q">> Actually, I have yet to read that one, which is unfortunate because I've heard it's rather good. :) <<Do you sleep at night or somthing?>> I haven't, lately. :P

Xanathar> <<Quake 3 Arena has gone gold and should be in stores within the next couple of weeks(For those of you who don't know,gone gold means that the master disc's containing the completed game have been shipped off to be duplicated)>> Interesting...I'll have to keep an eye out. :)

Deuce> Hey, welcome back! :D <<it began with 007 at the doctor, who solemly informed him that he had 125 veneral diseases.>> O_O ROTFLMTO!!! :D

Star Trek> No matter what anyone says about it, I think I'll always have a certain fondness for it...it was the first sci-fi series/movie/anything I was ever involved with, and it's largely responsible for initiating me into the rest of the fantasy/sci-fi fandom (including Gargoyles). :)

Spacebabie> Ack...being sick on any holiday really, really stinks. :( <hugZ>

SJ> <<BTW, hope everyone enjoyed today, the **everybody in the chorus!** "BUSIEST SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR">> Oi...for some bizarre reason, I happened to stop by the local department store. It was INSANE, and not in our way either. O_o

Kaioto> <<a very kewl medley midi file by this guy named Jesse Ingram. For those of you who like your Castlevania, a must-click.>> Ah, The Accursed Seal. I happened to trip over that a few weeks (I think) ago. Wonderful music. :)

SOROW> <<What is everyone else thankful for?>> Um...lots of stuff. :) (I've never really been able to sort it all out specifically...)

Gunjack> <<my brother broke his ankle while skiing in Switzerland, thus setting off a chain reaction that is threatening to wipe out our Christmas and my plans to visit Mera afterwards...>> ACK! O_O' I agree with Kaioto; it's time Murphy gets the Joyride he has so spectacularly earned...
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, November 27, 1999 05:07:21 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Ugh, this place seems so depressed... And I can't say that I'm gonna cheer it up much...

Just a quick note to let you all know that I'm still alive. I haven't had a chance to post this week, as Mera's had my undivided attention all week...:) Unfortunately, she's leaving sunday afternoon, and I don't know when I'm going to get to be with her again...

Thanksgiving seems to have hit an awful lot of us in the shorts. Mine was great, but then I found out that my brother broke his ankle while skiing in Switzerland, thus setting off a chain reaction that is threatening to wipe out our Christmas and my plans to visit Mera afterwards...
All this for two trips down some friggin' ski slope...:(

Just hang tough, and things'll be better one day....
Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, November 27, 1999 03:15:52 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.234.76.dallas1.level3.net

GSide> Maybe if I'd taken that classics scholarship to Boston University I'd be ~ halfway ~ to expert by now. As it is I'm a dilitante who's going rust with lack of use ...

Pretty close though. "qualis" is generally used as "what" in the sense of "What manner of" or "What kind of" in the sense of "What kind of darkness was that, gods and goddesses?" General "Whats" would use interogatives like "qua". Still, it doesn't mean much ... plus I could be flat wrong ... ^_^
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, November 27, 1999 02:43:37 AM
IP: 1cust85.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

CR Sage/Latin expert> Seeing as you are stopping by later, could you please tell me if my translation of Warpmind's phrase was anywhere near accurate.

Deuce> OK, you put up the pictures, but the only link is on the updates page, not the main one. BTW, what's with the smile in the grade X picture?

Ms. Cordova> Neverending actors: Again accessing the imdb, we find that the original "Atreju" is Noah Hathaway, who stoppped woking in '92, but was Boxy in Battlestar Galactica. The original Childlike Empress, Tami Stronach, is only credited with the Story. However, it may interest some members of the CR that the second Empress has appeared in Buffy TVS (ep 2.3, School Hard, Sheila Martini).


I found out something rather interseting today(ummm... yesterday). First of all, I have had my pinky in a splint (makes typing fun) since the engineering/pharmacy football game (engineering lost), so my mother had me go to the doctor to have it checked out. Now, if you can approximate that the side view of the outer bone looks like <( with the tip being to the left, and a tendon attached to the upper right. What I did was break off the upper right corner, which was then pulled back a fraction of an inch by the tendon while it healed.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, November 27, 1999 01:23:22 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Goodness, where is everybody? It couldn't make it yesterday because I was cuddling with my sweetie, but I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving! I'm technically having my family dinner tomorrow so the holiday isn't over at my house quite yet.
I'm thankful for:
my family
my cats & the rest of my menagerie
Matt
the TGS CR Clan
Gargoyles
music, dance, freedom
school (you can shoot me later)
chocolate & cheesecake

What is everyone else thankful for?
SOROW
Saturday, November 27, 1999 01:06:15 AM
IP: dll2a010-0495.splitrock.net

Well, I haven't had much time to be by here that heavily. I've got to fix that.

I hope everyone had a good Holiday.

I've noticed a lot of people didn't. Pistoff and everybody else who's being put to task over this holiday, I can't say much of use. I think Christine already said it better than I could. You guys and gal-goyles are all something very special, a group of friends I'm thankful for. I wish I could offer you folks more than my sympathy, hopes, and prayers.

Pistoff: I'm very sorry about your grandma, and your holiday. I don't think words can quite describe the outrage you must feel at the kind of job these "professionals" do in looking after those entrusted to their care. Hearing something like this happening to a relative, being dragged out for an emergency, that is SUCH the nightmare scenario on Holidays. Having it be like your ONLY holiday off? Well that just figures … I think someone should Joy-Ride Murphy for being such a smart-ass with his Law. I'm sorry, man. :(

Jack Hammer, son of Bond … *ROTF* I'd like to see that Dead-Beat-Father meets son reunion.

Jewel: Wow. That's no good. I hate watching Thanksgiving degenerate into, "101 and one things I'd be grateful if you changed." Jeez, but when three or four family members sit down and are all of the sudden running off about how, "X-family member should lose weight" or "Y-family member gives crappy Christmas presents" or "Z-family member shouldn't have anything to do with his/her Significant Other" … *shudders* And God have mercy on my soul if I ever get the, "We should really marry him/her off" topic of conversation. Have you ever heard Italian Matriarchs talk about how a child should act/dress/weigh in order to, "Be presentable?" *shudders* I remember the year I came with my pony-tail … the more people there are, the more license they have to be condescending pricks about it. *hugs* I feel for you. Thankfully its been down to a minimum in recent years, almost everyone married off and settled, more great-grand children running around and less wine if you know what I mean …

Beyond Thanksgiving I really hope you find someplace your heart can feel at peace. It is really hard being roped down at a time in your life when you need to find your place in the world.

Anne: My Lexy-chan is in good health. The same can not be said for her computer. :( She's very reluctant to send it back under the warranty, but no one has been able to fix it from her pool of friends. So she will have to. She WILL be back, hopefully soon. That I'll promise you. :)

Coyote: I'm still on IM if you ever need to talk some more.

Blue Caeru: Where are you??? I've heard one peep out of you on ICQ in like 2 months, Blue.

I'd waste more of everyone's time writing but I have to scoot. I'll try to stop by later.

One last thing ... a very kewl medley midi file by this guy named Jesse Ingram. For those of you who like your Castlevania, a must-click.
Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, November 27, 1999 12:05:10 AM
IP: 1cust26.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Robby: Princess Mononoke: <Wow. I'm not even going to begin to try and describe it>
Yeah... that about sums it up!

Skippy: AVOID scanners named: Mustek, Plustek, or ANYTHING-tek. (I sold them... for a week. WAY too many returns.)
Good scanners: HP, Visioneer, UMAX, Epson.
Yeah, those scanners are more, but you are paying for quality.
Decapatations or Woody? Hmm... I wonder which one I would prefer... <G>
I HIGHLY reccomend going to see Princess Mononoke.

Princess Mononoke: For the longest time, every time I saw Mononoke, I read it Monokote.
Fire Storm - [Night-flame@usa.net]
Friday, November 26, 1999 11:19:06 PM
IP: 216.90.45.197

Day Two of Holiday Hell. Good thing is that I didn't have to go out of town this weekend.

BTW, hope everyone enjoyed today, the **everybody in the chorus!** "BUSIEST SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR", not to be confused with this past Wensday, which is of course the **again, all with me!!** "BUSIEST TRAVEL DAY OF THE YEAR". Picked up some more tech stuff today, namely a couple of scanners I'll probably give to family members for Christmas. Oh, and a new printer to replace my old Epson, which is hurting pretty badly.
Also spent the day watching the various college football games. Texas fans, what the heck happened? You had the lead, then A & M spanks you in the second half! At least good ol' Virginia Tech won...

Robby: Siskel reviewed Princess Mononoke? Pretty damn interesting if he did. It'd be the first posthumous movie review I've ever seen, considering he's been dead for quite some time now! ;) But I agree, Mononoke is easily one of the best animated films I've unfortunately yet to have the benefit of seeing.

Toy Story 2: You just know this is gonna come out on top this weekend, and will probably make more than the first one. But....I HATE it. Never gonna waste money on it. Didn't like the first one. Probably cause I generally don't like any recent Disney cartoons and the fact that I generally avoid any movie done by Tom Hanks or Tim Allen, even their voices. In a perfect world, Mononoke would wipe the floor with this film. Give me demon boar gods and brutal decapitations over Don Rickles as Mr. Potatoe Head any day of the week.

Skippy: Is it just me, or has Voyager gone totally downhill? I kinda liked the first couple of seasons, cause hey, it's a new Trek show. But now the show is just the same old crap over and over again. Not even the visually stimulating Ms. Ryan can overcome horrible plotting. **Sigh** As a fellow Star Trek fan, I really think the franchise needs to take a few years to rest. Next Gen was awesome, DS9 was good then sort of fell apart in the end, and Voyager is just boring now. A recharging of the old batteries is in order, if you ask me.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, November 26, 1999 11:06:19 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Princess Mononoke: We have been blessed. It opens today at the Garneau theater downtown... me and Bob are probably going as soon as we get some cash. I'd just like to know why Edmonton got picked... but I suppose looking gift horses in the mouth is pretty stupid in this case, so....

Speaking of lack of cash, I am extremely pissed that I can't go to the Matthew Good Band/Moist concert next Sunday (the 5th)... my mom says my last term marks aren't good enough to let me go support Canadian music on a Sunday. :-P

Oh, well. Check out my site: I put a bunch of photos up today. :-) Bye.
Deuce - [<=== VISIT MY SITE!]
Friday, November 26, 1999 10:37:09 PM
IP: ts1527.connect.ab.ca

MARA CORDOVA - In the original book, Bastian gives the Empress the name "Moon-Child", which fits in with what you said about the name beginning with M (there's no mention of it being connected with any name of his mother's, though).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 26, 1999 10:28:43 PM
IP: 216.87.40.156.dialup-stl.primary.net

Bastion's mother:: Somehow i doubt that Jane was the name of the original long-deceased mother of Bastion from the first NeverEnding Story. Why? Becuase when Bastion cries out the his mother's new name is has a distinctive (to me at least) "M" sound and it alot longer than the monosyllablic (Mara uses a SAT word!) "jane". Also... who would name the Empress of Fantasia something as ordinary as that? I always thought it was something a little Gaelic sounding, like Moira.. but with a d sound somewhere in it...

Then again, there are extreme changes between movie versions. (For example Bastion's father in the first movie is bad and looks over forty while in the second movie he seems to have dropped ten years and has all this dark curly hair)So its whooly plausible that they changed the mother's name.

Yup very frustrating. Now i have to rent it out! Not that I mind. It's one of the best, most imaginitve movies I've ever scene. I just wish I knew what happened to the actors who played Atreyu and Childlike Empress. They were absolutely wonderful...


"It's so dark"

"In the beginning.. it is always dark."
Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Brooklyn, NY, (have new Demona pic. Click!)
Friday, November 26, 1999 09:49:55 PM
IP: spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com

Princess Mononoke came to San Antonio today, (And likely other theaters as well since Siskel reviewed it) and I've seen it, and all I can say is... Wow. I'm not even going to begin to try and describe it, as I've got nothing to compare it to. It was just simply... Superb. The movie is two hours and twenty minutes long, and when it was over all I could think about was how I wished it had been longer. The characters, the dialouge, the action, the animation, the absolute lack of Disneyish cliches, everything was great. The first movie all year that actually lived up to the hype and then surpassed my expectations. (And since I've been looking forward to it since summer 98...) Thumbs up, 4 stars, 5 out of 5, whatever rating system you use, this movie maxed it out for me, ya need to see it if the opportunity arises.

Incidentally, the fact that it hit San Antonio the same day as Toy Story 2 furthers my belief that Disney is keeping a lid on the flick so their own stuff doesn't look bad... (Not that they can actualy avoid that at this point...)
Robby
Friday, November 26, 1999 09:34:25 PM
IP: spider-tr052.proxy.aol.com

Enters the CR

"Here Attilla here kitty kitty."
She then open's a tin of Fancy feat Trukey and giblets cat food and puts it in a cat dish. She thens mixes in some turkey scraps,stuffing,mashed potatos and gravey. She places the bowl down for Attilla

Green Baron> I just gave your cat the same holiday meal I gave to my four girls. I do it every year..They also get Christmas presents


Pissy> YEOUCH! I hope everythings works out, About middle school what is it about Middle school that we all refer to as pre-teen and earlie teen hell???
High school was a lot better and especial my jr and senior years becuase I joined the student counsil and Drama clubs and yes...I got to sit at the popular kids table. The only reason was that the cheerleaders were more like Alica Silverstone in Clueless(The Kewlist girls with deep and angelic souls) than Denise Richards in She's All that(The Stuck up Beautiful peopl wh0o think their butts don't stink)


Thanksgiving)Your gonna laugh, my brother was in charge of peeling,cooking and mashing the potatos. Well he peeled the whole bag of 28 potatos!!!!, We ran out of butter and couldent butter our rolls and corn,and I found out you can put the china in the dishwasher!

The only *Bad* thing that happened was that I suffered from a migrane when dinner was over and...lets just say I won't have to worry about tipping the scales from dinner.

Godd thing I feel better now. Last year I had a cold on Christmas
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, November 26, 1999 02:49:19 PM
IP: user-37kapk3.dialup.mindspring.com

Speaking of Star Trek>
On top of Barclay's and Troi's return UPN is also showing a Trek retrospective hosted by Jason Alexander.

Since everyone else is busy doing Buffy/Angel episode reviews, I guess I'll have to be the lone voice reviewing Voyager...

*****WARNING VOYAGER SPOILERS AHEAD*****

"The Voyager Conspiracy" was your basic Seven-and-her-borg-technology-get-out-of-hand story. The big problem was the paranoia she spread through out the ship seemed completly unlikely. If these people ahd been aboard the ship for five years and not suspected a thing it seems unlikely they would start beliving what Seven says. If the Federation is such an "enlightened and mature" society then how come they couldn't tell this the same kind of paranoid logic that allows these end-times prophecy experts to sting together crazy theories about global organizations secretly leading the world to our certain doom?

I mean, you would think Tuvok might have pointed out the flaws in her logic. I hate it when they create these stories that totally disregard the character's natures just to get their story across....
Skippy The Klingon
Friday, November 26, 1999 01:33:17 PM
IP: 207.22.234.99

Jannie- look for an em for me..:)

Coyote- :)

To all others- :) More perhaps later
jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 26, 1999 11:44:47 AM
IP: 1cust86.tnt1.corpus-christi.tx.da.uu.net

Hey everybody. I'm back. My life still sucks, and it's still really busy, but I figured I've been gone too long, and damnit I miss you guys. :-) So, did everyone have a good Thanksgiving? Mmm... turkey.... Up here in Canada we had T-day last month, with all sorts of food and football and family get-togethers. Food: good. Football: good. Family: argh.

I saw the funniest skit last weekend. I won't repeat the whole thing, but it began with 007 at the doctor, who solemly informed him that he had 125 veneral diseases. o_O The doctor then asked Bond how many women he had slept with over the past year. The answer "8" was rejected, so he told the truth: 2,000. :-D

Anyhow, I promise to return soon. It's good to be back!

P.S. Visit my highly updated and revamped site! It still has very little content, but it looks prettier now.
Deuce - [hehasreturned@curtain.cjb.net]
Friday, November 26, 1999 10:14:04 AM
IP: edtn001958.hs.telusplanet.net

*Xanathar walks into the CR brandishing a B.F.G. 9000,points it at DC and fires,smearing the hacker all over the walls of the CR*

I've got Great news for Quake fans in here,Quake 3 Arena has gone gold and should be in stores within the next couple of weeks(For those of you who don't know,gone gold means that the master disc's containing the completed game have been shipped off to be duplicated)

Pistoff:Sorry I haven't had time to email you back. RL just keeps getting more and more screwed up... O_o>>Not a problem bud:),life's a bit hectic for me at the moment as well(I hate the chistmas shopping season,the only good thing about it is all the overtime:) )and as for the Walter Koenig quote*LOL*but he made up for it in B5*IMO*,he played the role of Mr Bester so well I was dumbstruck sometimes:)

goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Friday, November 26, 1999 07:26:02 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

SJ: Monkey: I remember reading that in National Geographic.

Wilek: Q: You forgot "I, Q"

Low amount of posts: Geez, whats wrong with you people? Do you sleep at night or somthing? What kind of person sleeps at NIGHT? Thats just wierd! <G>
FIre Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, November 26, 1999 04:35:17 AM
IP: 216.90.45.190

Jannie and Pist- **HUgs** Oh, my friends there are no words. Hang in there. YOu are in my thoguhts, and prayers tonight. Hang in there. With sincerest love--
jenna
Friday, November 26, 1999 03:05:29 AM
IP: 1cust82.tnt1.corpus-christi.tx.da.uu.net

Robby> <<Richard Simmons- I like the guy just because Leno and Conan AND Letterman all have so much fun trashing and getting wierded out by him every time he's on one of their shows.>> <L> I remember when he had a guest shot in a sketch on one of those shows--I forget which one, but it was so weird it was probably Conan--that somehow involved Santa Claus. I don't remember the details, or anything other than him babbling incessantly and throwing food at Santa (and, at one point, biting his arm). O_o <<James Bond- Would anyone believe me if I said I have never seen ANY Bond film for more than a few minutes worth?>> I would, since I'm the same way. :) The most experience I have with all things Bond is from Goldeneye for the N64. I still haven't figured out why that game is so popular.

Demona> Welcome. :) You're already insane if I'm not mistaken, so that's taken care of. ;) <<ONE QUESTION. WHAT IS A URL?>> Universal (or somesuch) Resource Locator. Basically the address of a web site.

Fire Storm> <<Q: I like Q. Remember that episode where Q had his powers removed by Q? Or the time that Q helped Q kill himself? Or the time Q was shot by Q, then Q and Q had q?>> Ah, yes...the joining of Q and Q into something quite new...I think y'all'd like the Q Continuum novel trilogy: Q-Space, Q-Zone, and Q-Strike. Despite the amazingly lame titles, this is a rather interesting series, all about Q's past, some of the history of the Continuum, and managing to tie together darn near the entire Trek continuity. (The author even managed to salvage Star Trek 5.) Kewl stuff.

SJ> Monkey meals> Oh...dear...gawdz... <<With luck, disemboweled holiday monkeys at your own table will banish the televised presence of Martha Stewart, who will cry out "Damn you all to hell!"-- just like Charlton Heston did in Planet of the Apes.>> Condemned by Martha Stewart. My life is complete. ;) (Hm...Disemboweled Holiday Monkeys would make a kewl name for a band. <g>)

Christine> <<At dinner tonight as we all named what we were thankful for, I included all my Gargoyles pals on the list. Just thought I'd let you know I was talking about you ; )>> Aw. How cute. ^_^

Pistoff> Ever hear of a movie called Dirty Work? I noticed a video of it at a friend's house today and thought of you. It's about...a team of revenge specialists. >;) Though their exploits never approach the theraputically malevolent standards of the Joyride, there was definitely something familiar about their revenge-for-hire business. ^_^ Grandmother> Eek...sorry to hear your Thanksgiving was so spectacularly ruined... :( I agree, that *is* grounds for a lawsuit. >:( <<Between the two of us, we could reduce every last one of 'em to quivering, whimpering, sweating, urinating masses of helpless protoplasm. ;)>> <muhahaha> I'll have to remember that one. >:) <<When I was in school, especially the 6th through 8th grades, I was teased, insulted, pushed around, beat up--basically, I was in hell. I could never decide whether to kill myself or the rotten evil scumbags who wouldn't leave me alone.>> <sigh> I have *got* to find a way to drag that friend of mine I keep mentioning into this place... <<considering the number of women Bond has humped, he's got to have lots of kids wandering around. Now...imagine his reaction if he found out that one of his kids is...Jack Hammer. :O Oh, the fun that could be had with this... ;)>> O_O <MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA> Pis, I've said it before and I'll say it again--thou art a genius. ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Friday, November 26, 1999 03:03:56 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Well, I hope everybody's Thanksgiving was better than mine. My grandmother ran away from her nursing home a couple of days ago and was missing, and the cops found her yesterday afternoon. She's in the hospital now, semi-comatose. Now, she and I have never gotten along. She's a very mean-spirited person, has always gone out of her way to hurt people's feelings, has always insulted me and Mom and just about everybody else at every opportunity, so this is rougher on Mom than it is on me. Still, it's a shame that this happened--especially since Grandma ran away once before, recently, and the staff of the nursing home should've kept that in mind. Her doctor knew she wasn't competent, and he hadn't authorized her to leave--yet the staff just let her walk out the door anyway. The doctor knew more about the case than they did, yet they went against his recommendation and let her go. This should be grounds for a lawsuit. Not for the money--I just want those stupid bastards to lose their jobs.

So...instead of the nice, quiet day at home that I'd been hoping for, I had to drive 160+ miles to Roseburg and back, to take Mom to the hospital to see Grandma. She was unconscious and didn't even know we were there. We talked to the doctors for a few minutes, then returned home. Burned up a tank of gas, too--and since I have to drive for a job that pays next to nothing, to me that's a big deal. So, my Thanksgiving--the only day, btw, that I get off work for this holiday--is thoroughly screwed. :/

Anyway, on to replies...

Jewel: The thing with the rat...hoo boy! Talk about a Kodak moment. *g* If this had happened to me, the way my luck runs, the rat would end up making the snake his bitch. ;) That "surreal" thing that happened to you...whoa! Trippy. It's always a jolt when you find out that somebody sent your story to a friend without telling you. I've had this happen a couple of times, though none were ever sent to a magazine editor. Too bad the guy was so negative about it. :( Still, since it's fanfic, it couldn't be published without permission--and we all know how Disney is. Unless...hmm...unless we could convince them to do something like what Paramount is doing with Star Trek novels. Maybe if they set up a magazine that published fanfics...but naw, people already get to read this stuff without paying for it. Oh well, it was a good idea at the time... ;)

SJ: Sorry about your family problems. If they won't treat you with kindness and respect, as a family should, then they could at least leave you alone. :( If nothing else, maybe you could have a little fun at their expense? *evil grin as evil thoughts form* Judging from your suggestion to Jessie about Mr. Lee, I think you'd be able to knock 'em down a notch or two. I wish I could be there with you, actually. Between the two of us, we could reduce every last one of 'em to quivering, whimpering, sweating, urinating masses of helpless protoplasm. ;) Hey, here's an idea--next time you have a family reunion, it would be nice if the Joyriders could crash the party. :D Ohh, your family would never ask you to visit them again. MUAHAHAHAHA! Seriously, though, we all hope it won't be too bad for you. Just remember that when it's over, you'll be back with us, and we're all here for ya, bro. :)

Jewel again: Oh crap, I just read your rant about your family. If they blame you for everything, they're a bunch of idiots that make my dumbest, most inbred customers look like savants. Even if you're not able to get away from there immediately, I'd recommend doing so as soon as possible. I mean, if it's causing you to turn suicidal...*cringes*...a very dear friend of mine is also depressed often, and sometimes suicidal. Couple months ago, I got an email from her that scared the shit out of me. And I'm not an easy guy to scare. Just know that we care about you--and also that if you ever did commit suicide, _they_ would win. I've thought of this "way out" myself, long ago, when things looked hopeless. I didn't do it because it would be admitting defeat. And I'm glad I didn't do it, because now I have many friends here in the CR--not just friends, I consider them family. We're all here for ya. Don't Let the Bastards Win. Hey, like I said to SJ, next time you have a family get-together, if only we could find a way to get all the Joyriders to be there with you, your family would never want to see you again. ;)

Anne: Your comments about being nearly driven to suicide sound so familiar to me (and probably to a lot of people who have gone through similar things). When I was in school, especially the 6th through 8th grades, I was teased, insulted, pushed around, beat up--basically, I was in hell. I could never decide whether to kill myself or the rotten evil scumbags who wouldn't leave me alone. I snapped somewhere around the end of 8th grade and started thinking up ways to scare the crap out of people. It's amazing what you can do with a rubber surgical glove. :D Keep hanging in there, things'll get better sooner or later. :) I'm glad things have calmed down at your house, too. I hope nothing else explodes. And thanks for all the compliments, too. 8D

Kitainia: <fave fanfic characters> Kewl! I can just picture Jack's reaction: "Huh? Somebody _likes_ me?!" Of course, he's probably thinking the same thing about Delilah... *g* Hope you and Doug had a pleasant Thanksgiving. ^_^

Wilek: <<Joyride> [Wilek simply stands there staring for several minutes, his expression that of a garg who has just seen a work of the most exquisite beauty ever created.] Oh...dear...gawdz...<kneels before the mind-boggling genius of the Grand High Revenge Technician>>> O_O Uh...wow. Heh...thank you. :D *bows* <<Am I the only one who'll still be here for Thanksgiving?>> Nope. I'm here, too. Just took me a while to show up. ;)

Xanathar: Thanks. ^_^ I'm glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for sending me your new email addy. Sorry I haven't had time to email you back. RL just keeps getting more and more screwed up... O_o

Jenna: I'm glad I could help. We're all here for ya. *hugs* Great fic preview, too! *adds another fic to the ever-growing list I need to read when I have time...* :)

Aaron: The villain in Tomorrow Never Dies--that was one of the things I think of as "satirical elements," which made the movie fun. Maybe it wasn't written that way, but that's the way my twisted mind interpereted it. ;) But I agree that the Bond films are reflections of their times, and the lack of gadgets in the current ones. I do agree that John DeLancie would make a great inside joke. *g* Hopefully these films will get better in the future. Hmm...just had a f--ked up creativity demon: considering the number of women Bond has humped, he's got to have lots of kids wandering around. Now...imagine his reaction if he found out that one of his kids is...Jack Hammer. :O Oh, the fun that could be had with this... ;)

Jannie: Awwwwww! Thanks! :D Always glad to help out, especially when it involves mercilessly crushing scumbags who mess with my friends. :) *hugs* And I hope your Thanksgiving was a pleasant one despite all the slings and arrows. Denis and I are always happy to help put a smile on your face. *hugs again*

Mara: Honestly, with some proofreading and quite a bit of polishing, Watson's stories might've worked--except for his charactarizations of the clan, especially Brooklyn. While we can't say with any certainty that this or that character would _never_ behave a certain way, we _can_ say that they _probably_ wouldn't behave as they did in the Brooklyn/Matt saga. It would've worked better if he'd used a different character. But if he wants to continue writing with a different saga, I honestly wish him luck, and hope his next effort works out better than the last one did. <<YOu'd make a lovely hitman ;)>> Why, thank you! :D You're too kind. <<As long as we don't have to babysit Delilah I'm all for it. (that'd kinda be funy though, in the middle of a break, D-chan calls up asking for Jack)>> LOL! That does present some amusing possibilities, doesn't it? ;)

Delphi: Yep, the email got through, and it worked. Kewl stuff! Thanks! Sorry I haven't had time to reply to your email. More RL Bad Craziness than usual. Love your men-and-women differences thing. ;) LMAO!

Zath: <<You'd be surprised what you can accomplish with a couple of matches and a whole lot of gasoline. >: )>> *L* Hey, if you need a recipe for homemade napalm, just let me know. *g* I do hope you can get everything fixed, though. Believe me, I know what a pain in the ass moving is, I've done it more times than I care to think about...

Coyote: I can definitely understand how you feel. It's been eight years since my last girlfriend moved out of town and we lost track of each other. I've joked a lot about not getting laid in eight years, but what I truly miss is the simple intimacy of holding her in my arms, laughing with her, talking about current events, etc...just being with her. The last woman who was willing to get within five feet of me turned out to be such a flake that I couldn't stand her. I made the mistake of driving her around, giving her a tour of this pitiful little town when she first moved into a friend's house...when we passed a homeless guy walking down the street, she leaned out the window and yelled, "Get a job!" *sigh* I figured that, if that's the best I could do, I might as well give up--at least as far as women in this town are concerned. So, I've pretty much resigned myself to being alone. I haven't gone out of my way to look for online relationships, either--and I sure as hell don't indulge in cybersex because it's just too ridiculous to me...just text on a screen. For me it has to be the real thing or nothing at all...so I do understand lonliness. This is probably one of the main reasons many of my fics deal with lonliness, finding love, and so on. All we can do is keep hoping that someday, somewhere, somehow, we'll find that one person who is right for us. Until then, and beyond, your CR family is here for you. *hugs* Just know that you're never truly alone as long as you're with us. :)

Warp: Thanks for the compliments. As for my CR title, it was a joke, mostly. As the Joyride proves, revenge can be a team effort. ;) We can all share the duties... *evil grin*

As for the next Star Trek film...I'd recommend an adaptation of Peter David's "Q-in-Law." ;) But they've screwed up the last three Trek films, so I've pretty much given up on it....

Christine: Awwwwwwwww! :)

And since we've been kinda talking about Star Trek in here...

"I never felt Star Trek was silly, I felt _I_ was silly. Swallows kept trying to nest in the wig they gave me." --Walter Koenig
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Friday, November 26, 1999 12:38:41 AM
IP: wire-7.koalas.com

Time to lower my shields and sound sappy ...
At dinner tonight as we all named what we were thankful for, I included all my Gargoyles pals on the list. Just thought I'd let you know I was talking about you ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 11:45:40 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Taleweaver> Bastian's mother: In the cridits for Neverending Story III on the internet movie database (http://us.imdb.com/), Tracy Ellis is given credit for the part "Jane Bux (Mother)".
Here's another tidbit, also from the imdb: In the credits for a 1996 German animated series "Die Unendliche Geschichte", the Bastian's full name is listed as "Bastian Balthazar Bux". So, why was he named after a wise man?

Warpmind> Qualis nox fuit illa, di daeque: As I am now home, I decided to break out my Latin-English dictionary, and give it a go. "What a darkness that was, gods and goddesses"

My best wishes to all who are going through tough times.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, neighbor of Red Bank, home of Jay and Silent Bob, NJ
Thursday, November 25, 1999 11:28:39 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Happy Gobble day, Like This week's Buffy. Thanksgiving the way it was meant to be. With good old fashion siege before chowing down.

Got a tough fantasy trivia question for everyone? I was watching the Neveringing Story today and the most frustrating part of the moive is towards the end. Bastion climbs up the window and shouts his mother's name to save the day. But you don't hear the name. For the Daily Double can someone name Bastion's mother?

Dragon-gargoyle crossbreed? I could kick myself, dragon discussion in both comment rooms earlier this week and now they've passed. As far as dragons and gargoyle having offspring. Definately in the realm of possibilities and both species have more in common phenotypically than humans. Dragons in my own stories aren't entirely coporeal so the physical connection is not there, but I think the more interesting story isn't so much what will their children be as much as who there children will be. Heritage plays a part in a person's character, but only a part not the whole. The rest comes from experience and life.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:41:52 PM
IP: 233.santabarbara-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net

Day One of Holiday Hell is over with, and so far survival rating is still relatively high....

But here's something I thought is a nice little Thanksgiving day post from GettingIt.com. Enjoy the taste of primate! Monkey--It's what's for dinner!!!
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As Martha Stewart fiddles with the fall foliage 'round her Butterball, dazzle your own guests with a little something different. Invite Zira and Cornelius to share the warmth of
your holiday table -- then eat them. Spider monkey with
cornbread stuffing... candied yams and basted baboon
butt... Ah, Thanksgiving!

While lawmakers and the gastropolitically correct frown
on devouring our kinfolk, epicures in African nations like
Guinea-Bissau dish up the next best thing. Our
nonhuman cousin hangs gutted and smoked, his face
frozen in a final scream of death, and where some cry
barbarism, others behold a culinary horn of plenty.
"Many Guineans do not eat cats, dogs, snakes and
monkey but generally do not look down upon those
who do," informs the Peace Corps language manual
Kriolu no bai! In this former Portuguese colony, carne
di sanju is something of a national dish, and my visit
there quickly becomes a pilgrimage for perfectly
prepared primate.

Down a dirt road in Bissau, the capital, lies my monkey
mecca. Bissauans lit by candles in sawed-off plastic
water bottles give way to bats swarming around a rare
source of electricity: the signpost at Bar Lisboa 3. The
backlit plastic sign portrays a beer bottle, a mug, and
roasted bird, but we all know what's on the menu.
Sitting below the red, green and blue lights on the
veranda, locals drink from something akin to 16-ounce
Ovaltine jars, washing down monkey chunks with
domestic Cicer brew. I study the white plastic
tablecloth, with its colorful "bountiful harvest" motif: a
repeated pattern of fruit-filled cornucopias, roasted
turkeys, Coke and 7-Up bottles.

Possessed by tunes from a barside boombox, a
waitress shuffles by (two steps forward, one step back,
repeat) collecting dirty dishes along the way. "We have
no more monkey," she says, stone-faced, to my
Kriolu-speaking brother. She resumes her
two-minus-one step, dancing back to sit with friends at
another table. Another waitress arrives to tell us there
is monkey. "Strange" meats always taste like chicken,
and ape, it appears, is no exception. It looks like one
big chunk of chicken skin. The waitress returns and I,
as vegetarian voyeur, confirm by fondling and smelling.
The boiled monkey morsels are a culinary injustice --
cold and coarse, smelling like the coagulated topping
on stale beef stew. Nowhere do I see the "baboon butt
that cuts like butter." Faced with cold,
bottom-of-the-bucket Bonzo, Brian and I stick to beer.

The smart holiday shopper no doubt procures her
free-range monkey early, often contacting a hunter
directly. One primate's Plymouth Rock is another's
Forbidden Zone, so Curious George is best advised to
avoid beaches like the Praia da Bruce, on the remote
Bijagós Archipelago island of Bubaque.

"The best time to hunt monkeys is in the morning or
afternoon -- at low tide, when they come down to look
for crabs," confirms hunter Lassana Djassi, shotgun in
hand. "Personally, I don't eat monkey because I'm
Muslim... but he does." He gestures toward Fernando,
a Bissau native who is busy scratching Djassi's name
in the sand. Grinning widely, Fernando boasts that he
makes three to four monkey kills a day -- usually
reserving one for himself. Skinning the primate and
scooping out its insides, he stews it in water, lime,
salt, tomatoes and a touch of chile. As with any meat,
choosing a companion wine is no monkey business.
Fernando recommends red wine, palm wine or cashew
wine.

And the Continental trade in contraband Cornelius is
growing. Ripe monkey heads and appendages arriving
in bloody baggage from Equatorial Guinea (a former
Spanish colony) failed to seduce Spanish airport
luggage handlers, though restaurant diners in Madrid
and Brussels might be grateful for these simian
godsends from the Monkey Mayflower. For serious
Thanksgiving inspiration, though, one must backtrack
to Africa, with its simian smorgasbord of guenons and
duikers, baboons and drills. Red and green, black and
white, all are precious in His sight -- Jesus (and the
discerning sub-Saharan) loves the little monkeys of the
world.

The simian supper is not without its faux pas. While
endangered species can make for lovely holiday
place-settings, they risk alienating guests. According
to the International Primate Protection League, "the
bushmeat trade is the number one killer of primates in
West Africa." Extinction fears increase continent-wide
as Bonzo goes to bounty hunters who see in this rural
sustenance meat a prized urban commodity. Ape shall
not kill ape, though humans continue unsustainable
hunting and trapping of what is held as a cheap,
delicious (and often illegal) alternative to beef and
mutton.

Before proclaiming monkey "the other white meat,"
consumers should also be aware of health concerns.
When diners in Gabon devoured a chimpanzee found
dead in the forest, all thirteen died from hemorrhagic
fever, thus rekindling fears of Ebola. Those who link
green monkeys to HIV would wisely heed virologists'
advice to avoid raw primates and other roadkill.

When I request a recipe from Mario Pereira, a Bissau
security guard and weekend gourmet, his eyes light up.
"A fine meat! It helps remove sickness from your body.
It's not like a pig. The monkey eats only fruit --
mangos, bananas, manioc, green rice. It's a fine meat.
The brain -- it's all good, though the head is expensive."
He sometimes goes to a local monkey bar and asks
them to cut off a piece. "It's also called oficial de
marinha (Navy officer) because it's a respectable meat
-- you go to a respectable restaurant and that's what it
says on the menu."

His partner looks on, shaking his head. While some
consumers demand a hand as proof of purchase, he'll
only eat primate when he can't see the humanoid
features. "I look at those hands and I look at that head,
and I just can't," he says. For this same reason,
monkeys are preferred over anthropoid chimps and
gorillas. With luck, disemboweled holiday monkeys at
your own table will banish the televised presence of
Martha Stewart, who will cry out "Damn you all to
hell!"-- just like Charlton Heston did in Planet of the
Apes. And that's always cause for thanksgiving.
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And be careful tomorrow! After all, it is "The busiest shopping day of the year"! ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:34:08 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

HAPPY TURKEY DAY!

May your turkey not burn...
May your yams be candied...
And may your guests NOT be pickled!

Dinner went VERY good. Man... I am getting REAL good at cooking!

Robby: MIB: Woah... Bug QUEEN? Kewl! WHY DID I HAVE TO MISS THAT EPISODE?!?!?

Spike: AI: Looking forward to it!

Q: I like Q. Remember that episode where Q had his powers removed by Q? Or the time that Q helped Q kill himself? Or the time Q was shot by Q, then Q and Q had q?

SJ: Q: Hmm... Big budget, PRE-DS9 Q... YES! Sounds good to me!

Robby: Q Movie: Well, Q's time is NOT linear! it is entirely possible that a earlier Q could be in the movie without messing up continuity.

Christine: "Chicks in Chainmail": Hmm... WHY does it not surprise me to hear you are reading a series by that name? <G>
Oh, every time I see Scooby Doo ad, I think of you. ;)

Charmed: KEWL! I was listening to Charmed (the episode with the demon in the basement) and the demon sounded like Prometheus! Way to go <Giver-of-will>!

Jenna: <whew- hope no one minded that little spoiler->
Na... I didn't mind.

Christine: Jericho: Yeah, just imagine if Arnie was playing opposite of Marina Sirtis or a character named "Dominique!"
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:30:58 PM
IP: t1-10.visitus.net

Hi everybody! I thought I'd just stop by before going to a family get-together. 0_0 Oh yeah...

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!! ^_^

Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, November 25, 1999 07:04:02 PM
IP: 209-130-164-89.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Just got onto the Internet after a nice Thanksgiving dinner (except that I burned the pumpkin pie a little, but it was still edible). On the whole, it's been a good Thanksgiving. I hope that everybody else's was also enjoyable.

LATEST BIZARRE CREATIVITY DEMON: Vinnie and Xander are actually related, maybe cousins. I got inspired on this when I noticed the similarities between them. Both are comically prone to various disasters and humiliations, often of an almost humorous nature, and frequently involving mysterious mythical beings of the night. Despite their somewhat klutzy tone, both are also able to come through to help their friends (Xander's done so a number of times - among the most recent cases, think of how he managed to put fresh heart in Buffy in this season's opener - and with Vinnie, there's his bold standing up to Castaway which saved Goliath and Elisa's lives in "The Journey"). For that matter, Greg Weisman's commented that Vinnie's the character in "Gargoyles" closest to himself, in some ways, and Josh Whedon has mentioned that Xander was modelled a bit after himself in his high school days.

Of course, I wouldn't recommend to Xander that he use banana cream pies as weapons against vampires; they definitely wouldn't just stand there wondering what that was all about. (Well, maybe it would be safe to do it to Spike now, thanks to his having been "neutered"; he could - and undoubtedly would - do a lot of scheming to get revenge for it, but he can't act on it any more, unless and until he finds a way to neutralize that implant).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 25, 1999 06:51:00 PM
IP: 216.87.40.90.dialup-stl.primary.net

***Kyryn steps into the room, walks over to a table, and produces a thanksgiving feast with all the trimmings****

Coyote> Many hugs, my friend. I've been there in the lonely times. Two years of depression to be exact. Things will get better.

Dragon-garg crossbreeds> Hey! I'm a dragon-garg crossbreed. Actually one of my grandparents was a dragon. *Grin* remember that oriental dragons can shapechange!

Favorite Authors> Ah, I have to put in Janny Wurts and Melanie Rawn on the fantasy side, and Larry Niven and Ben Bova on the sci-fi side.

I'm sorry that I don't get in here as often as I'd like, but editing and RL keep me pretty busy.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Okami and I are off to have a special one with his grandmother, who is doing much better these days.

Enjoy the feast and give thanks for all the wonderful people and things in our lives today!

****Kyryn waves at everyone and leaves the room.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, November 25, 1999 01:04:07 PM
IP: denm1-27.iglobal.net

Happy Thanksgiving, folks!

Loneliness: Thanks for the support, guys, I appreciate it, really. Though my own problems pale in comparison to many of you. I think, really, that there's another reason why I'm hurting so much ... the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind here. This thought came after a 45 minute phone conversation with my ex last night ... I think she hit it on the head. I'm so nice of a person, it's very easy for me to be hurt, be it from a misunderstanding or something else. Thanks everyone, though ... you guys are a big help. **hugs everyone**

DEMONA: Welcome to the room ... check yer e-mail. :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:16:02 AM
IP: zzz-209252248078.splitrock.net

I HATE WRITING THIS MUCH BUT I LOVE THE PICTURE OF MY DAUGHTER. I AM PUTTING THIS PICTURE BESIDE MY NAME.
TALK TO YOU LATER. ALSO ANOTHER ONE OF MY CLANS ARE DEMONA1293@ONELIST
DEMONA - [DEMONA1293@YAHOO.COM]
SSM, ONT, CANADA
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:47:04 AM
IP: gateway.adsb.on.ca

THERE IS ANOTHER CLAN ALIVE THAT I CREATED. IT IS AT ONELIST. IT IS CALLED DEMONA. FEEL FREE TO CHECK IT OUT AND JOIN MY CLAN.
DEMONA - [DEMONA1293@YAHOO.COM]
SSM, ONT, CANADA
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:44:39 AM
IP: gateway.adsb.on.ca

I AM THE TRUE DEMONA. I WAS ASKED TO COME HERE BY DON. A MARTENZI. ( SORRRY DON'T KNOW IF I SPELLED IT PROPERLY.) GARGOYLES AREN'T THE BEST SPELLERS. E-MAIL ME ANY TIME AT DEMONA1293@YAHOO.COM. ONE QUESTION. WHAT IS A URL?
DEMONA - [demona1293@yahoo.com]
ssm, ont, canada
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:39:07 AM
IP: gateway.adsb.on.ca

I AM THE TRUE DEMONA. I WAS ASKED TO COME HERE BY DON. A MARTENZI. ( SORRRY DON'T KNOW IF I SPELLED IT PROPERLY.) GARGOYLES AREN'T THE BEST SPELLERS. E-MAIL ME ANY TIME AT DEMONA1293@YAHOO.COM
DEMONA - [demona1293@yahoo.com]
ssm, ont, canada
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:38:35 AM
IP: gateway.adsb.on.ca

SJ> *nods* yeah, I realize that there are always exceptions to every rule and I'm sorry that there is some type of issue happening with you and your family. Just try to make the best of it and it will be over with in less than 24 hours now. ;)
For the first time in my life, I'm spending Thanksgiving alone. I haven't spoken to my father in a year, so going home was out of the question and my sister moved to California (she used to live here in Houston too). My son went to see his grandmother in Oklahoma for the week. My daughter... well, she ran away from home over a year ago.
She left without warning and I still do not know to this day why she choose to do this. She refuses to contact me and the only thing I know about her location is that she's in the Houston area (I think). *sighs*
Anyway, I do hope that whatever it is that causes strife between you and your family, you will be able to work it out eventually. *hugs*

Coyote> I'm sorry that you are feeling this way. I was thinking the same thing that Christine said about the depression. You do have a lot of friends here, so keep focused on that. My online friends have helped me thru some extremely difficult and dangerous times. *hugs Denis and Pistoff* I'm going to email you with a little bit of information - and I hope it will help! *hugs*

Happy Turkey Day to everyone!
Jannie
Thursday, November 25, 1999 09:16:11 AM
IP: 196-131.c.esc4.net

Nothing else really to say this morning, so...

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 25, 1999 07:40:01 AM
IP: 216.87.40.179.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hi all!!

SJ:<<I've always thought that the ultimate Next Gen movie should star Q as the villain. Have him play some big, elaborate game with the crew. Can you imagine that? Think of the trouble he could cause with a big budget!>>I agree,that would be cool!

Medusa:Welcome.

Coyote:I feel for you bud!,although I've never had any kind of relationship before, I do know quite a bit about solitude,In fact thats the primary reason why I became a Demona fan,granted Demona's life has been far worse than ours will ever be but I know what it's like to be an outcast*looks back at what he's just written*,I wish that I could say more but I'm not very good at talking to people(the average length of my posts every night is a pretty good giveaway to this as well,I try but most topics of coversation are way over my head:( )

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Thursday, November 25, 1999 07:03:24 AM
IP: exip-t-008-p-210-3.tmns.net.au

Hi, everyone.

I just had a dreadful nightmare... a dyslexic fey... AAAAAH! RUN AND HIDE!

*Looks at Spike with big puppy eyes.* "A.I. -- Asrial Interactive"... Ooooh, I can hardly wait...

Greg: You met Mira Furlan? In person? You lucky (incomprehensible), you.

Aaron: And if it was a nephew of Q, what would he be called? Q-Tip?

Coyote: The Bando question: Aaaah...

Y'know... *Scratches chin thoughtfully* This dragon/gargoyle halfbreed discussion... it really sets the term "dragon breath" in new light...

Pistoff: CR Revenge Technician... I like the title, but alas, I fear the competition for it would be fierce... unless we could work out titles for all of us Joyriders... By the way, I must commend you on your magnificently sick and disgusting Joyride...

Welcome, Medusa. Do not be concerned with the violence in the Joyrides, it will be much easier to accept once your sanity has been removed. Please see Deuce at once.

So, Matt Watson is pulling out of Gargoyles Fandom, is that it? Oh, well, he will be MiST... (Pun intended). As for the subject of hurt when insulted... I must admit, it takes a DAMN lot to insult me... my aproach to insults could be described as "catching the insult and accelerating it", or, in other words, I improve on the insult, thus most often ticking my verbal adversary off by insulting myself better than he can. It works.

Delphi: I resent your comment about cats. I NEVER kick cats. Actually, I prefer using a blunt weapon. >;) Just kidding, everyone...

Christine: The Jericho issue... I pity you. Nice new pictures, by the way.

Q as a ST:TNG Movie Villain: Well, if he teamed up with the Borg, or even better, worked as a double agent, THAT would really get to Picard's nerves... hmmm... *Gears start twisting inside Warpmind's Warped Mind...*

Well, gotta scoot.

See ya.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, November 25, 1999 04:19:54 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Coyote the Bando. I won’t say I know what you are going through because I may not, but know that you did have friends here and this place can help you through your loneliness. It has and is helping with mine. There is a large void in my life now and well this room is helping to fill it. Heck I am looking forward to the gathering just for the small chance of meeting some of you and putting a picture with the words. So post or email and try not to feel so alone. As for romance I really believe that there is someone for everyone. You just have to kick fate’s A$$ sometimes in order to find them.

Books I did a fantasy heavy list so I shall do a scifi one later to balance the hmm force?
Wizard in rhyme well after my son the wizard the newest one is due out April or may 2000

Wrymwolf gave some of the titles to the Nancy Collins books. Wild blood is one of her werewolf stories and walking wolf is the other one. (I had to walk into my living room soon to become library and close my eyes spin around to find it)

Jewel> I lost one friend this decade really don’t want to lose another. Besides there is one good thing about living in Ga. Dragon Con Largest collection of dealers (the fandom kind) and a large guest list which has included Anne McCaffery, Piers Anthony, and many more. I know what you mean about family though I dug up an old journal of mine when I was living with my mom and ….. well reading it scared me. But never underestimate the power of your friends to get you through ruff times.

I hope jewel and Coyote see everyone’s comments since they had to do the family thing and the wipe may happen before they get a chance to read them

ironwolf - [cag16@bellsouth.net]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 03:04:17 AM
IP: host-216-78-83-200.cha.bellsouth.net

COYOTE - Brother, I've traveled that long, bad stretch of highway several times myself. It's never easy, no matter if it's your first time or your 100th...

The main thing I can tell you (especially after all of the things that went down this past year) is something you're going to hear over and over again:

DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP!

The funny, but true fact about seeking companionship/love/a signifigant other/etc. is that no matter if you are looking hard or not looking at all, any one of those things will show up where you least expect it. You may not be ready for it, or you might be at that point where you grab on and hold tight with both hands, but when that moment comes... it will be a moment that will make you wonder why you ever worried in the first place.

<Passes over a hot cup of Frenship Soup (Grannie's homemade beef veggie), and sits down by his friend>

Hang in there, Don. We're all your friends here, and will keep praying/pulling for you. Trust me, brother, you'll never be alone...

Maintain and Check Six, Brother... <gives Coyote the "Keep On Truckin'" high sign>
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, November 25, 1999 02:54:04 AM
IP: m32.ieway.com

**BEGIN RP**

Down in HFIL, SJ is trying to figure out what the... well... HFIL is going on.
"I'm dead and I still have problems! You see? IT NEVER ENDS!" he exclaims.
"Oh, I don't know about that," comes a familiar voice. The young scientist turns to see... Jim Iza Noying?
"Wha... What are you doing here?"
"I'm dead." Jim shrugs in his casual manner. SJ calmly notes that by his side is Ratina, hanging onto his arm like she loves him alot.
"I mean, down here. You're one of the goodguys..."
"Oh well, it has to do with the WAY I was killed."
"You mean being blown up in the helicopter?"
"No."
"Oh, that's right, you and a couple of others were sent to the next dimension where time passed more quickly and you had a kid who ended up being Black Tiger."
"Yeah." Jim smiled at Ratina briefly. "Lucky me, I got to stay with her even after we were brought here."
"How *did* you die anyway? BT never qutie got around to telling us before I died."
Mephisto grinned. "Oh yes, tell him about the horrors his death has spared him from that all his friends will have to suffer through."
Jim sighed. "Well you see, there's this elite group called The Ten..."

**END RP FOR NOW**

VISIT STATION 8! ITS INTERESTING THIS WEEK! REALLY!

HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE! HOPE YOU DON'T SUFFER FROM BEING WITH FAMILY TOO MUCH!

(WHy is it, even the families that can't stand each other still get together?)

Spent the day at the zoo. Tried to draw the animals, but they kept moving! To make it worse, I was with annoying family the whole time...

Naga's laugh- Something I guess I failed to mention, that was one of Naga's tolerable laughs. In the course of the movies, she has much, much worse... (And her costume is atrocious. Its the eqivilent of a very thin two piece bikini with a couple of leather straps and a cape, wrapped around a very well endowed body... While it sounds good on paper, it just doesn't look right when actually drawn...)

AAron- You think Fred Perry has been slipping lately too? I have to agree. He rushed issue 39 so a story arc ended too early, the villains won far too often for the next ten issues, and several stories that coulda gone another ten issues got short changed in issue 50... As for the current storyline... I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and figuring he doesn't know how to handle just 16 pages yet. The biggest loss has been the dropping of the subplots...

Dragon/gargoyle crossbreeding- Suppose it all depends on the size of the dragon... If its one of those little 6 feet long ones...

Watership Down- Great movie, far, far better book.

Hitchiker's guide- It's like, the 25th most ordered book ever... Ender's game is like, 32nd... Both deserve those spots most definatley. Must reads for anyone.

PC- Political correctness is okay to an extent, but it got out of hand a LOOOONG time ago.

Richard Simmons- I like the guy just because Leno and Conan AND Letterman all have so much fun trashing and getting wierded out by him every time he's on one of their shows. Beyond that... He's a freak.

Large female areas- I don't understand the appeal of overly large, and quite often its just gross when it passes a certain point... (If they reach the size of the lady's head its just... Eww... When they're even bigger than that, its just plain sick.)

GXB- A Ravage figure? Cooooooooooooooooool....

Medusa- Welcome! Just don't turn anyone to stone... As CR Administrator, I'll take your sanity, you won't be needing it.

James Bond- Would anyone believe me if I said I have never seen ANY Bond film for more than a few minutes worth?

Mara- You ever seen Sailor Moon S- Episode 92 of the whole series? Its the first one with the civilian identies of Neptune and Uranus... It has a hilarious end bit...

Christine- I may have to do a Jericho pic myself just to get in on the competition. Considering he looks EERILY like my own fanfic's version of Demona's son, (But not Goliath's...)

Q as a Trek movie villain- Woulda been fantastic, much better than movie 9... The problem being they screwed him up royally in Voyager by having him fall for Janeway, and then having a kid with that other Q... If all else fails, do a movie adaptation of Devil's Heart... Changes would be needed to match continuity sure... But it was a GREAT book...
Robby
Thursday, November 25, 1999 01:23:46 AM
IP: spider-th082.proxy.aol.com

**RP!**

[Solomon and Griffex are in the former's Lamborghini, cruising urgently down the streets of LA. Sol: "Grif', are they still at that Wal-mart?" Griffex: "Confirmed. They and that gang the gargoyle just hired are...shopping for guns." Sol: "Eh? I would have thought her boss' big conspiracy would have had enough to blow us all back to the Stone Age." Griffex: "Probably he didn't want to risk sending a convoy. As if these bizarre people milling about in a department store won't draw enough attention." Sol: "I hadn't thought of that...We'll have to be circumspect about this. Send the Trio to patrol the store's perimeter, and have Mewthree and Choketaur watch the front and rear entrances. I'll go in and try to trick them into leaving quietly so we can grab them." Griffex: "What about that fellow the other one--Storm Eagle, I think--seems to have killed?" Sol: "We'll attend to that later, when we stake out their room once we're finished here." (Continuity note: They found out where Storm Eagle was when she called Asil by tracing the comm signal to their building.) "While we're there, we'll help ourselves to whatever Thailog sent them." Just then, they reach the Wal-mart's parking lot. Sol: "<sigh> Here goes nothing..." Of a moment, he's simply gone, leaving Griffex to coordinate the strike via commlink...]

**END RP!**

Happy Thanksgiving, all! :D

Medusa> Welcome! Have your sanity sooked by the CR administrator, here. :)

Zath> <<one of my favorite books was one of Gorey's popup books about a family going for a walk and getting picked off by monsters one at a time.>> I get the feeling I'd like this author's works? ;) <<At least I haven't seen any signs of any sort of infestation. Or does that just mean that even mice and roaches are afraid to set foot in here?>> It's probably below their standards. :P <<Losing your mind and losing your sanity are very different things. What fun is insanity without a twisted mind to guide it? : )>> Ah...an insight I hadn't considered. Thanks for that; it'll greatly help with my studies of insanity. :) <<Or is the star supposed to resemble Divine?...>> Heh...If it did, NASA would probably shut down its observatories and blow up the Hubble telescope for fear of what else may be out there. :P <<I hope everyone has a good holiday, even if it means sedating your family and going to dinner with your friends : ) Tomorrow morning I'm going from sunny southern California to chilly Michigan, so this is probably my last post for the week. Have fun everybody, bye for now.>> Goodbye and safe journey, to you and everyone else who's leaving for now. :) <blink> Am I the only one who'll still be here for Thanksgiving?

Anne> <<I wasn't able to find the archive at S8>> The specific page where this issue is addressed is http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/response.html ; it's not much, but it helps immensely. Greg specifically refers to human/Fey halfbreeds, but the answer probably applies to gargs as well.

Coyote> Friend...I'm afraid I have no idea what to say to you that could help...I know only that we're all here for you, that we have the utmost sympathy, that we will survive, and that this too shall pass. (<sigh> I've never been very good at this...)

SJ> <<I've always thought that the ultimate Next Gen movie should star Q as the villain. Have him play some big, elaborate game with the crew. Can you imagine that? Think of the trouble he could cause with a big budget!>> Ye know, I've often had the same thought myself...

Christine> <<Now, how in the heck am I going to be able to get through the movie without busting a gut the first time they call him Jericho???>> You could always wait for the DVD; you'll still ROTFL, but there won't be much of an audience to bother. :P
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, November 25, 1999 01:11:52 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

I'm so sorry I haven't been in here in a while, but I haven't been feeling so good the last few days :( What a crappy way to spend your Thanksgiving vacation!

I'm sooooooo glad everyone in here loves David Eddings! I've read all 12 of the Belgariad/Malloreon books two times through and I never tire of them. If I wasn't going to marry Mr. Boxer (I wish, I wish, I wish), then I'd be greatly hooked to Silk (Kheldar)! Why can't they make that series into a movie trilogy?!

Joe Boxer> This is a song by Duncan Sheik...
ALIBI
Did you come down to give me
Or take me away
I had so many things to tell you
But now I don't have much to say

This feeling like we're hiding out
is getting in the way

Let's quit the town just look around
There's nothing here to keep us alive
If they try to run us down
You know I'm on your side
And I want you to be my alibi
So they won't find me
And they won't find you
And we may tell lies
But we may be true

Did you come down to take me
Or give me away
I had so many things to ask you
Now you don't have much to say

And these alcoholic afternoons
Are getting in the way

Let's quit the town just look around
There's nothing here to keep us alive
If they try to run us down
You know I'm on your side
And I want you to be my alibi
So they won't find me
And they won't find you
And we may tell lies
But we may be true

So they won't find me
And they won't find you
And we may tell lies
But we may be true

I want to be your alibi
Till the day we die
SOROW
Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:49:05 AM
IP: dll2a010-0141.splitrock.net

Hi everyone (Time for my occasional visit)
Couldn't help myself after reading Coyote's note.
I too have been there. I'm still there. I haven't had the luxury of having my heart played with, toyed with, folded, spindled, mutilated, mauled, beaten to a pulp. Consider yourself lucky to have had the experience.
I've tried St. John's Wort. I think it works. I have to stop taking it because I get too happy. I think depression suits me better. I am the ultimate singularity in this universe and decided that, like Demona, I prefer to be alone. Oh well, one day I'll find her. Until then, I have Gargoyles.
Rulok - [jmiller1@satx.rr.com]
San Antonio, tx, USA
Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:45:24 AM
IP: 24.28.141.118

Hey people. Found out that I forgot something in my last post.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!

Be back soon.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:42:24 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Coyote> ::hug from me too:: I've been there, many years ago. At the risk of butting in and putting on my psych hat, you may also be suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder, a form of depression that results from the lack of natural light in winter months (also freuqently found in submariners and folks like me who work the noc shift). Might be worth investigating, because it _can_ be helped with "light therapy" and antidepressants.

Anne > your bookshelf looks quite a bit like mine! ; )

New on my site:
6 new pics!!! 3 Jerichos (Mara, Aimee, and Crzy), Brand of the Pirate Clan (Zath), Agent B and Sirius (Jade Griffin). Thank you, all!
Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Speaking of Jericho > AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! Just read in the movie review that Arnie's character in "End of Days" is named Jericho Cane! Now, how in the heck am I going to be able to get through the movie without busting a gut the first time they call him Jericho???

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:11:44 AM
IP: 206.43.16.141

***BEGIN RP***
In Hell....

"Let me get this straight, just so I can muddle it through my mind," SJ was saying. "I died....that much I remember pretty clearly....then I wind up here. Now, you've sent some sort of....I don't know, demonic servant...to inhabit my body for some sort of nefarious plan of your own creation?"
Mephisto raised an eyebrow. "Mmm hmmm. Yes, that's about right."
"Oh that's beautiful. I'm dead and I still have problems. You see? IT NEVER ENDS!!!"
***PAUSE RP***

Well, probably the last post I'll be making for nearly a week. *Sigh* I wish I could find a better way to waste my holidays.

Star Trek News: Everybody, tune in next week to a new episode of Star Trek: Voyager--starring Marina Sirtis!!!! Damn, I saw the promos, and she still looks fine....Oh yeah, and Dwight Schultz as Barclay is back as well.

Q: Speaking of Q, I've always thought that the ultimate Next Gen movie should star Q as the villain. Have him play some big, elaborate game with the crew. Can you imagine that? Think of the trouble he could cause with a big budget!

Green Mile: I'm looking forward to the film because it's directed by Frank Darabont, the same man behind the vastly underrated "Shawshank Redemption"--one of the best films of the nineties, IMO (especially the last half hour). I'm a bit worried about Tom Hanks though. I really, REALLY don't like him, and generally refuse to see his work....plus it looks as if he speaks with that same kind of southern Forrest Gump accent. Still, I'll probably see the film cause I like the material, and even a Shawshank clone (which I know its not) would probably be good entertainment.

Cats: I'm not overly fond of them...I think I mentioned that before. Far too independent and indifferent for me. I like dogs. They're really my favorite animals. I want a pet who's just dumb enough to love me unconditionally, and still be willing to rip out my enemy's throat at my command. ;)

Jannie: I realize that you wrote that little comment about family to be nice and caring, which I applaud, but with all due respect, you don't know my family. In all seriousness, I probably would be better off if I was estranged from some of them...

Jewel & Coyote: **Grips both of them in a big hug** You guys going to be okay? I'm really worried about both of you!
Coyote, I know you may feel lonely, but believe it or not things will get better. You seem to have a loving family at least, and we'll always be here for you. :)
Jewel, I can sympathize with the family situation, I really can. But you're strong, you can deal with it. Don't let them get to you, cause that's what they want. I have to put up with a lot of crap from some of my own family, but I get through it because I know that for every insult certain members may throw at me, if I'm still standing after it then I'VE won, not them. I know the abuse is tough, but it'll only be a few days, hopefully. Don't let certain members of your family ruin the joy you may have sharing time with other members of your family. Don't, for the love of God, think of ending it. We all love you far too much for that, and I personally don't want to see anything bad happen to you at all. I'll be hoping and praying things work out for you this holiday. And we'll be here for you if you need us, always. :)

***RESUME RP***
Back on the Avatar, it appeared as in on special patient was regaining consciousness...
"Hey!" Kari said, nudging Anton Sevarius, who was dozing in a chair near his son's bed. "I think he's waking up!"
Anton snapped to attention and moved to his son's side. "Junior? Junior, can you hear me?"
The young man's eyes fluttered open lazily. "Dad? Kari?" he croacked, his voice dry. "I...I don't know what happened...am I alive?"
***END RP FOR NOW***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:58:52 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Coyote- :::hugs::: hang in there.. if you ever need to talk, drop me a line
Bronx - [Bronx Wyvern5@aol.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:56:30 PM
IP: spider-wg072.proxy.aol.com

Coyote- Big hugz
jenna
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:22:21 PM
IP: ppp-216-62-142-241.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

Coyote:: (BIG BIG HUG) YEah, I've been there. I think probably everyone goes through stretches of extreme loneliness, whether or not your surrounded by others. LAst year i was extremely depressed and edgy and I owed it, basically, to not having a boyfriend when all the other girls i knew were eithe rpairing up with someone else, or had the opportunity to and chose not to. Not to mention that around that time i had broken it off with an online boyfriend. I wa incredibly depressed and ended up going to therapy for a while. (my therapist-by the way- thought i was one of the most well-adjusted kids she's met, hows that for scary) IT helped, especially talking about how i felt. For some reason, even the best of friends try to keep you from expressing your feelings, in hopes that not talking about it means it doesnt exist.
Well anyway, i found out it wasnt any single person in particular i needed to be with, but to be assured that i was cared for and about by my friends and family. I don tknow how not you not lonely anymore, Coyote.. but do know that we all DO care about you and take it from there. I hope this helps a little..*another big hug* And don't hesitate to drop me a hello :)
Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:49:34 PM
IP: spider-wm053.proxy.aol.com

Hi Everyone! *sets down a whole dinner of turkey on one table, and then on the other other yum stuff for veggie eaters*

I'm going off very early tomorrow, my folks are driving down to Virginia, so we have to get up before the sun shines.. *sigh* I hate that! It's bad enough I have to get up so early for school anyway... Oh well, it's an 8 hour trip so plenty of time to sleep!

Well, I'm off now! I got a new DS9 tape... ep 60 where Odo blurts out to Kira that he is in love with her... hmmm ^_^ this will be interesting!

Bye my rookery brothers and sisters! Happy Thanksgiving!
Bronx - [Bronx Wyvern4@aol.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 09:33:51 PM
IP: spider-wg044.proxy.aol.com

Mara: Yeah, Square 1's writing was a cut above most other PBS shows that were its contemporaries ... it's a helluva lot better'n Barney, and that blasted purple freak is still on the air.
Oh, and my favorite SQ1 bits? "Mathnet."

Watson's message: Well ... can't say I'm altogether surprised, the feedback he received on his cycle was mostly negative, that which he received at all. But it *is* good to see that he's not giving up writing altogether, and that he recognizes that his biggest mistake was writing self-insertion stories.

Jewel: Check yer e-mail.

Anne: Uhmm ... I've done garg-fae halflings before. Click my name link ... it's the story which revealed that Rain was a halfling. Basically, my take is that he's basically ... just a gargoyle with a lot of dormant power that he hasn't tapped ... *YET.*

Pissy: Sick ... and ... wrong. But fitting.

Medusa: Welcome to the madhouse.

Zath: Well, it was the only thing I could think of equivalent to Naga's shrill, grating laugh.

**Warning: Mild rambling ahead**

**sigh** Maybe some of you can relate to this ... but has anyone here suffered from an absolutely hopeless sense of loneliness? I'm not talking about run-of-the-mill loneliness (if that's even an existent concept) ... I'm talking about utterly hopeless, everything seems to remind you that you're lonely loneliness.
Because I'm suffering from it right now.
I think it's ... because we're approaching December now ... coming up on a year since I wrote "Sleepover" and sent it to two close friends to beta read, only one of which remains a close friend to this day ... and the other I wound up wasting three quarters of a year on ...
**sighs sadly** I mean, I don't think I would be in these kinds of straits if I could ever get my mind off of ... being lonely. Thing is, though, that I can't. It's always been like this with me, as far back as I can remember. I'm always in search of ... **sigh** companionship ... and never seeming to find it, always winding up alone. My heart's been played with, toyed with, folded, spindled, mutilated, mauled, beaten to a pulp ... and broken far too many times for me to recall each one individually.
**sigh** I'm sorry for putting this out here ... it's just that it's getting to be too much for me to bear. **looks around the room, particularly at the four people who (should have) received e-mails last night** Please understand ... I have no idea how to approach this ... **sigh** my loneliness has never been *this* overwhelming on me ...

**makes a motion to leave, suddenly notices the candle still lying there since it was put out over a month ago. Picks it up off of the table**

And I need to put this behind me ...

**flings the candle as hard as he can throw it against a side wall of the room, letting it shatter in several large waxy pieces. Turns and leaves the room, breathing shakily**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 09:04:13 PM
IP: zzz-209252248171.splitrock.net

DELPHI: Re: Mirror of Her Dreams - Trust me on this, you will ENJOY the second book of Mordant's Need; "A Man Rides Through". Terisa is in for some spectacular times! These two books are some of my faves!

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 07:38:17 PM
IP: m36.ieway.com

I'm jes' checkin in today. I might not get a chance tommorow, so Happy Thanksgiving! Unfortunetly my girl is up in Canada.

Beast Wars- I've decided to do what I did with the Gargoyle episodes....tape them all....So I started today...hopefully when I tape them they will appear in ORDER...unlike the gargs eps did...SHESH.....

Anyway I gotta go now, ya know, I gotta go and get this dang accent out of me....them woodchucks up here in Vermont know nuthin' and they've been getting me filled with all them crazey ideas ya know?.....sheesh...

Sarge
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 05:36:22 PM
IP: spider-tq062.proxy.aol.com

Hi all! ^_^

Wilek & Jenna> Thank you so much for helping me with the garg-fae issue. I wasn't able to find the archive at S8, but I'm still looking. If I can't find it, then I'll just do what Jenna did, only the garg-halfling will inherit the chance of turning to stone at day unless they shift-shape into some other form of creature at dawn and stay in that form or some other that is non-gargoyle related before changing back at sunset if they choose. Thanks for all the help! :)

Pistoff> Thank you for writing! <<That must have scared the crap out of everybody! O_O>> Yeah, actually my sister still says she sees dolls talking. It gets unnerving and finally my dad picks up the dolls in Lindsay's room and throws them downstairs like garbage. At long last, it's quiet in the house!! But I don't know how long that'll last. <<Joyride>> *ROTFLMAO* You're the TRUE Official CR Revenge Technician (OCRRT)!! ^_^ <<Dragon/garg interbreeding>> Wow! That's very intriguing! I totally agree about the beauty rant, too. :)

Jannie> <<Beauty Tips>> So very true! Thank you for sharing with us, because one of my friends just got dumped because she wouldn't do it with her boyfriend, and she blames herself for their _perfect_ relationship breaking up. :( But even that was able to cheer me up, so I'm sure it'll cheer up my friend and irritate those people who need a good b!tch-slapping (seriously, there are a bunch of people in my town that rub everybody else's nose in dirt if they're not perfect. Like that whole party thing that SJ wrote about, I wouldn't quite doubt that if that happened here then the exact same thing would happen. Quite disturbing! >:( <<Thanksgiving>> I'll keep this is mind too, and my prayers will be with many people during this week. 8^)

Well, see all of you later! 0_^

Anne
MN, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 04:29:39 PM
IP: 209-130-164-183.nas1.apv.gblx.net

I just saw The Green Mile last night and it was *good*! From what I can remember, it stayed very close to the original storyline, with only a few really noticeable changes (although someone who's read it more recently might notice more), and Mr. Jingles was just so cute : ) Unfortunately, the movie is over three hours long, so if you go to see it, bring a comfy pillow or something to sit on. My one main gripe is that for some reason (I'm not sure if it was the film itself or just the projector) everything looked distorted, like the picture was stretched making everyone look really short and wide when they were standing and long and skinny when they were lying down.

Warpmind> <<Aren't such living conditions in violation of a half-dozen laws?>> I'm not sure, but in case it is, I'm collecting photographic evidence. (if you think photos of stains in the ceiling is strange, you should have seen how people looked at me when I brought my camera to bio class when we were doing cat dissections...)

Sarge> <<maybe you can get some money by making it a sideshow then pay for all the damage yourself.>> If I ever manage to get that much money, I'm just moving to a better place, preferably a single so I won't have to deal with roommates. <<a specifically marked, 10oz. bag of spinich, took about four leaves, chopped them up and measured them in a cup and said it was about 14oz......after i explained to her what she did she banged her head against the table. The olive oil spilt, and my other partner thought it was a nice idea to squeeze the sponge over the floor>> That's just plain strange...

Spacebabie> <<Are you sure the guys are not growing them intentionally...they could be the "Magic" kind>> No, they seemed a little too interested in fungicide for that to be the case. : ) It was actually pretty funny how extremely they reacted considering the usual state of cleanliness (or more specifically, the lack there of) in their kitchen and rooms.

SJ> <<THE BABYLON FILES>> *LOL* <<"The Gashlycrumb Tinies", detailing the various gruesome ends of children (26 in all, one for each letter of the alphabet)>> I have a poster of that here, hanging over my bed, and when I was young, one of my favorite books was one of Gorey's popup books about a family going for a walk and getting picked off by monsters one at a time. <<Don't know what this "End of Days" is, but 2 things I'm sure it means are 1) trouble and 2)NOT Ahnuld Swarzennegger>> But couldn't you just imagine Gabriel Byrne as Doyle's long lost demon father? : )

Kitainia> <<I bet the guy would not accept the charges at the end of it, right?>> Now that I think about it, probably not : )

Jannie> <<I'm checking on what you can legally do about your disgusting and greedy landlord.>> Unfortunately, there is no greedy landlord. It's university owned housing. I just had the bad luck to get put in the second most run-down building there is. While ours is supposedly going to be renovated this summer, there is another building supposedly scheduled to be demolished. Oh well, it could be worse. At least I haven't seen any signs of any sort of infestation. Or does that just mean that even mice and roaches are afraid to set foot in here? : P <<I clicked on a link there and it froze my computer!>> It just couldn't take the horror and committed suicide.

Wilek> Thanks a lot for the Coleman Link, as if my sleep schedule isn't messed up enough already, now I'm never going to be able to sleep again!!! <<Sometimes I think without this place I'd lose my mind. Oh, wait... >> Losing your mind and losing your sanity are very different things. What fun is insanity without a twisted mind to guide it? : ) <<With the darkness of Six and the power of Nine, draw me a star that resembles divine...<blink> WTF was that? o_o'>> Or is the star supposed to resemble Divine?...

Coyote> <<imagine how Santa Claus would laugh if he simultaneously sucked down a tank of helium and was kicked in the 'nads by Mrs. Claus>> Just the thought of Santa laughing after getting kicked there is enough to be disturbing, even without imagining the actual sound he'd make.

Todd Jensen> <<"hearing" Vetinari's remarks in Jonathan Frakes' voice>> I have the video game, so I always imagine Rincewind talking in Eric Idle's voice.

jewel> <<Max looked at it, and instantly hid his head (*big*, smelly rat). I'm just hoping he eats it... >> *LOL* There's just something really funny about that, possibly the fact that it reminds me of the time my brother took my pet mouse, stuck it in my cat's (the one we had before Kitty) face, and watched in disbelief as the cat ran away. : ) << I realized today that I was actually turning suicidal again>> Oh no! Is there anything we can do to help?

Pistoff> <<Sounds to me like the place is too soggy to burn.>> You'd be surprised what you can accomplish with a couple of matches and a whole lot of gasoline. >: ) However, I've decided not to give up quite yet. My roommate claims someone finally showed up to fix the sink. I guess the third time's the charm. Now if we can just get everything else fixed, I'll be really happy.

Okay, I think that's all for the moment. I hope everyone has a good holiday, even if it means sedating your family and going to dinner with your friends : ) Tomorrow morning I'm going from sunny southern California to chilly Michigan, so this is probably my last post for the week. Have fun everybody, bye for now.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 03:18:10 PM
IP: ppp-229-083.usc.edu

oops, sorry hit the send button by accident
Delphi
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 03:10:57 PM
IP: twin56v.magiclink.com

Hi everyone, Happy Thanksging Day:

Someone brought up favorite book & authors: WOW, don't get me started. I have to say that Gordon Dickenson and Anne McCaffery are two of my top favorites, however, I love sci-fi and my list of author's which I must check out when I'm shopping for books keeps getting longer and longer.

Honor Harrington series by David Weber is great if you like space warfare type books and start at the beginning with "On Balisk Station"

But I've read so many things that I like For humerous Sci-fi Christopher Stasheff Warlock series, Rogue Wizard series, and the Rhyming Wizard series. I love it when he comes out with a new book in these series.

other authors I've read recently and loved Michelle West "Hunter's Oath" and "Hunter's Death", Lisanne Norman's Sholan Series, David Drake's "With The Lightnings", David Brin's Uplift series, and the last book I read was by Stephen R Donaldson "The Mirror of Her Dreams" this one has a powerful cliffhanger I had to go out and get the next one last night 'cause I want to know how Terisa gets out of the trouble she is in.

Pistoff>>Did that 2nd email get through to you? Did it work? please let me know.

Okay here are some fun comparisons between men and woman, I can verify a couple of these(at least in our household)

MEN & WOMEN COMPARED

NICKNAMES:
If Laura, Suzanne, Debra and Rose go out for lunch, they will call each other Laura, Suzanne, Debra and Rose.

But if Mike, Bill, Fred and Artie go out for a pint, they will affectionately refer to each other as Fat Boy, Godzilla, Peanut-Head and Useless.

EATING OUT:
When the bill arrives, Mike, Bill, Fred and Artie will each throw in $20, even though it's only for $22.50. None of them will have anything smaller, and none will actually admit they want change back.
When the girls get their bill, out come the pocket calculators.

ARGUMENTS:
A woman has the last word in any argument. Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

CATS:
Women love cats. Men say they love cats, but when women aren't looking, men kick cats. (so very true, our kitties learn very fast to avoid the big male or they will be bounced off the nearest wall.)

Catch ya'll next time
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 02:52:33 PM
IP: twin56v.magiclink.com

Hi everyone, Happy Thanksging Day:

Someone brought up favorite book & authors: WOW, don't get me started. I have to say that Gordon Dickenson and Anne McCaffery are two of my top favorites, however, I love sci-fi and my list of author's which I must check out when I'm shopping for books keeps getting longer and longer.

Honor Harrington series by David Weber is great if you like space warfare type books and start at the beginning with "On Balisk Station"

But I've read so many things that I like For humerous Sci-fi Christopher Stasheff Warlock series, Rogue Wizard series, and the Rhyming Wizard series. I love it when he comes out with a new book in these series.

other authors I've read recently and loved Michelle West "Hunter's Oath" and "Hunter's Death", Lisanne Norman's Sholan Series, David Drake's "With The Lightnings", David Brin's Uplift series, and the last book I read was by Stephen R Donaldson "The Mirror of Her Dreams" this one has a powerful cliffhanger I had to go out and get the next one last night 'cause I want to know how Terisa gets out of the trouble she is in.

Pistoff>>Did that 2nd email get through to you? Did it work? please let me know.

Okay here are some fun comparisons between men and woman, I can verify a couple of these(at least in our household)

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 02:43:51 PM
IP: twin56v.magiclink.com

OOPS sorry I'm still figuring out MindSpring. the first good thing about is that the siound files are faster.

Buffy>I loved it for the Spike moments and the parts with Xander and Anya,oh and the parts with Buffy preparing Dinner.

Angel> was great, I chukled over the parts with him and food,of course I could eat pudding off his chest(DID I SAY THAT OR THINK IT!).

Ok NOW Everbody has my favorite authors listed. I also like Mercedes Lackey, I own a novel about her that reminds me of Buffy and Angel..a little sad at the end though.

Novel series that I like
Xanth,The Aprentice Adept novels by Piers Anthony(Mercycle is a pretty good read also)

Shanarra and Magic Kingsom novels(Terry Brooks)

The Acorna novels(Anne Mcafrey)

Dragon Knight( Gordon R Dickenson)

The Unicorn novels(I can't think of the author)It Centers on a girl named Tantaquil who has the magic ability to mend things and her pet peeve( possum like dessert animal)


Pokemon and Digimon I like both my favorite character in Pokemon is Misty and my favorite pokemon is Rhapidash(Its a unicorn thing) Favorite character in Digimon is Sora and favorite digimon is Patamon,, because he can evolve into Angelmon Well I'm outie I have to make like Buffy tommorow and cook.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 01:31:41 PM
IP: user-37kap2o.dialup.mindspring.com

Pissy-poo :: "Matt Watson's note: Yeah, it's kinda sad. As a writer, I know it hurts when somebody insults you or makes fun of you. But in this case...well, there's an exception to everything, and let's face it--crap is crap. But there are plenty of other bad writers out there for Mara to MiST. ;) "

Actually guys, I talked to him like, a week ago, and he'll still be writing. Just that particular Saga is over since he can't see any way to go on from there. (If you read Timelssness you'll see why. BAsically everything gets resolved) And just so everybody knows, I have nothing against his writing, most of it is actually quite good. The only problem is the format which makes it hard to read, and alot of recapping, not to mention some contriversal use of the gargs. His stuff is better thought out than some. Its just eh execution. My two cents (and I have read all of them...)


pissy again" Okay, I sent the pic a few days ago, then got swamped by RL crap once again. Hope it wasn't too scary. ;)
"
Not at all sexy... YOu'd make a lovely hitman ;)

Looking forward to reading more of your MiSTs, when I have time. Hey, if you ever wanna borrow Jack Hammer for one of 'em, feel free. I think he'd be more than happy to
help. He's that way, y'know... *evil chuckle*

As long as we don't have to babysit Delilah I'm all for it.
(that'd kinda be funy though, in the middle of a break, D-chan calls up asking for Jack)

Ms. Cordova: I feel I must defend myself: I could identify SD, I just
did not know what the acronym stood for.

Oopsie... *blush* sorry bout that.. i was kidding, ya know
Mara Cordova - [MCordova@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 01:23:36 PM
IP: spider-wk041.proxy.aol.com

...
Spacebabie
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Wednesday, November 24, 1999 01:20:26 PM
IP: user-37kap2o.dialup.mindspring.com

Wilek> No I don't have a Beast Wars Ravage... yet. But I'm getting one. And it looks very good.

Buffy and Angel> Both were very good episodes. I always like seeing Spike. I think he's my favorite "Buffy" character.

Todd> I thin the only reason Spike was permited to sit with them for Thanksgiving dinner was so they could keep a close eye on him. Also I don't think there would be an argument over Demona like that, because she's trying to destroy all humanity, much different than a little revenge over a small piece of land.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:12:47 PM
IP: spider-tj034.proxy.aol.com

Ms. Cordova: I feel I must defend myself: I could identify SD, I just did not know what the acronym stood for.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:59:28 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Stormy- Is there a Boarders or Barnes and Nobel near you? I read all the Preacher stuff at Boaders and didn't spend a dime- you can look at stuff in that store and don't have to worry about buying it if you just want a place to mellow out and read. And Boarders has more avantgarde stuff than Barnes and Nobel.
jenna
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:39:52 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

And here's the link that actually WORKS...I guess Wagner doesnt' want the entire CR to see his soft side.

Tough.
Stormy - [<--Another side of Wagner (That He Didn't Want You To See...)]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:33:36 AM
IP: pc20.huron.uwo.ca

Been a while...really busy, between the university drama underground presentation upcoming this weekend, and my essays. ANd rotting my brains on Beast Wars and the HITMAN graphic novel. :-P

AARON: Wagner as the Saint of Killers? You want my honest confession...I've never actually read PREACHER? I'm a big-time Hitman fan though, and Wagner-as-Monaghan seemed so natural, but when MGC announced its Super-Gargs contest, I realized that save for the wings, Wagner doesn't look much like a gargoyle any more, so I'd better come up with someone else to add to the picture. So since there are so many PREACHER ads, and it has the same writer as HITMAN (the Great Garth), and I happened to have a fanfic character who was a minister (Luther), it all seemed to fit.

I'd love to check out PREACHER someday but right now I just don't have the money to spare!

So no, you won't be seeing any more PREACHER crossovers, but right now I'm trying to resist the temptation to WRITE a HITMAN crossover (even though I swore never to do a crossover...)

KIT: Wagner's honoured to be on your list of favourite fanfic characters. In fact...here's a new pic...very different from any of my other myraid Wagner pics, because for once he hasn't got that obnoxious smirk on his face...I think Lady Bismarck was a good influence on him ;-)
Stormy - [<--Another side of Wagner...]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:31:38 AM
IP: pc20.huron.uwo.ca

Jannie- here's a link!!
When I first read the joyride, I thought of you.

Hang in there sister- I'm praying for you. I think most pricipals have there own union in hell. My mom is a teacher of 20 odd years- it seems that teachers have less and less power and the adminstation more and more, and the administations first concern is to cover its own arse at all costs. Their are some good ones, yeah, but the corruption my mom and I have seen is really bad sometimes.
jenna
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:27:57 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Pistoff> *kneels at your feet* I am humbled. *wraps my arms around your legs* thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! You're the bestest bud any gal could ever ask for! :)

Jenna> great writing! I'm anxious to read whatever else you have written - where can I find your fanfics?

In recent conversations concerning the true beauty of a woman, I found the following to be quite inspirational and right on the target. I now have this hanging next to my mirror. Audrey Hepburn was indeed a genuine lady.

The following was written by Audrey Hepburn
regarding "Beauty Tips".

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, let a child run his or her
fingers through it once a
day.
For poise, walk with the knowledge you'll never
walk alone.
People, even more than things, have to be restored,
renewed, revived,
reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anybody.
Remember, If you ever need a helping hand, you'll
find one at the end of
your arm.
As you grow older, you will discover that you have
two hands, one for
helping yourself, the other for helping others.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she
wears, the figure that she
carries, or the way she combs her hair.
The beauty of a woman must be seen from in her
eyes, because that is the
doorway to her heart, the place where love resides.
The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mole, but
true beauty in a woman is
reflected in her soul.
It is the caring that she lovingly gives, the
passion that she shows.
And the beauty of a woman with passing years-only
grows!

Ditto with Jenna on wishing those who are traveling this holiday to be safe! :)

For those who are hesitant and for those who want to whine about being with family members during Thanksgiving - remember that there are many people in this country that will be spending Thanksgiving alone and there are families that have missing loved ones. (I personally am experiencing both of these)
It is a time to be thankful and to enjoy a day with our family and loved ones. Best Thanksgiving wishes to all of you!
Jannie
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:22:06 AM
IP: 168.171.197.67

4th post- youch! wilek- I loved your RP!
jenna again
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:16:15 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Robby>That Naga laugh wasn't so bad. Sybil Fawlty had a worse one. I think I'll download it and use it as a wave file.

jewel> Geez, what a way to spend a holiday. Hugz.

Pistoff> There were parts of Tomorrow Never Dies I liked, mostly involving Michelle Yeoh. It was just the villian I couldn't take seriously. A media mogul? Good morning Mr. Bond, your opponent this week is... Rupert Murdoch? While Connery was the coolest Bond, I actually liked Timothy Dalton's take on him, especially in License To Kill, after Felix got killed. That's the closest to the edge Bond had ever skated.

Note: This next section contains the odd spoiler for The World is Not Enough, (TWINE) nothing major, but enough I thought I should put up a warning. Thank you.

I think the Brosnan films are a reflections of their times. Just like the Moore films were influenced by Smokey and the Bandit, the Brosnan films are sort of typical 90s action fare, ie How much stuff can Bond smash/blow up/otherwise destroy in the shortest amount of time possible.

I miss the days of Connery, where Bond had to do some investigation, midnight break-ins, etc. These days, all the weirdness comes straight at him.

I miss all of Bond's gadgets. Bond used to have five or six different weird little things, some funny, some really cool, but they would all get used. In TWINE Bond has his watch, his stupid coat and his gun, and that's it. (Although, at least Bond finally got a better gun, even if it is a Sig)

Same with Bond's car. Bond's car used to be guaranteed at least one chase scene to show off. Not any more. Connery's Astin Martin in Goldfinger was crammed with gimmicks. Brosnan's BWM Z3 supposedly has Stinger missiles, but we never even got to see him drive it. His Z8 doesn't fare much better. It launches one, and then gets destroyed.

Q leaving, I know it had to happen sometime, but John Cleese? I just don't like it. Bond and R seem to have an almost adversarial relationship, whereas Q always seemed to have an irritated affection for James. If we need a new Q, why not John Delancie. That'd make for a great laugh the first time we saw him.

I could ramble (and complain) more, but I have to get to class soon.

***********End spoilers You can look now.****************

If I don't get back here before monday, happy thanksgiving to everyone celebrating it.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:15:08 AM
IP: ppp-195.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

whew- hope no one minded that little spoiler- I just couldn't hold it in anymore. ;P
JENNA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 09:56:40 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

What the hell...^_^

Anne - here is a little bit of my fanfic "Misbegotten Son Saga" currently in progress. I hope to have it up in Dec. come hell or high water. I can't wait to share this little tidbit so here we go. Hope you like.

***********************Scene from upcoming fanfic*********

Scene set up: Xanatos is on Baal island, checking out the ruins of a castle. The fortress used to belong to a clan of gargoyles that were graced with magic as a gift from Oberon. But for some reason, this clan of gargoyles has been wiped out- exterminated, and no one know why or by whom. However, the clan, when they did live were extremely artistic and kept many historal events and prophesies recorded in a rich network of carvings.

Xanatos is with Broadway, Goliath, and Bronx on this island. They are looking for Thailog who has been abducted in his stone form (after Genesis Undone) (They kind of want to make amends- but you can get that whole tid bit in the story which I linked below.

At any rate- at the beginning of this scene, Xanatos is exploring the ruins, and talking to Owen via radio when this scene opens. Here we go.

Xanatos looked at the walls and their living tapestry. He stopped at one figure, of a female gargoyle. The image of her was of her dancing before Thailog, whom of which looked very pleased.

He had seen this gargoyle just a few hours ago. She looked very different from how she was seen here. As she was now, she was enslaved, maltreated, and her eyes shown with that glaze of long suffering. Very different indeed from the smiling gargess that was apparently prophisied. Was this a glimpse of things to come he wondered.

"Owen" Xanatos said, panning the camera he had pearched on his shoulder like some bird, to the image. "What do you know of her."

There was a long tense silence.

"Owen?" Xanatos asked.

"She is my lord's direct offspring." the voice responded quietly.

"The plot thickens." Xanatos smiled.

*********************End of Scene*************************

Essentially in my fanfic saga there are two decendents of Oberon by a garg- Salome and Atlanta. Atlanta later goes head to head with Madoc, also fulfilling a prophesy that "The house he is from shall strike him down." Atlanta and Madoc are main advesaries to say the least.

Neither one of these sisters turn to stone. Salome has magic abilities, but they are terribly malnurioshed, because of the conditions of her life. Atlanta has no magic, save that of natral magic immunity. She is very physical, and thus more of an match to take someone like Madoc on.

NOW THIS IS MINE, MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!!!!!PROPERTY OF JENNA AND JENNA ONLY ;p

jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 09:54:45 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Thanks to everyone for the hugz- they helped.

Pist- thanks for the writing encouragement. It helped a lot.

Anne- fae/garg cross over- sounds good. Some authors have done this wonderfully (check out LLew of the Clan SteelClaw). I also have a pair of fae/garg hybreds in my fic coming up- you won't believe who the fae parent is ! :P

Bonfire stuff. Well it's been all over the news here, and as a graduate of Texas A&M affilate collage, I'm an aggie by affilation if nothing else. I think they should wait until the emotions are a bit cooler to decide on the issue or not. The thing that made me the maddest was the press keeps bringing this up to the families, ect. Kind of making it an issue. Seems very callous to me.

Be safe on the road for all those traveling- and have a wonderful holiday.

Again, thanks everyone for listening and for the hugz ^_^
jenna
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 09:23:03 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Now why have I never been in here before? :> Great stories;)
Medusa
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 08:39:10 AM
IP: jhb-cache18.jaring.my

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: I'll agree with Sevarius Jr. and Kitaina that it did get a little preachy, but I still liked this one. I found Buffy's attempts to simultaneously juggle fighting a vengeful ghost and prepare Thanksgiving dinner very funny, and also Spike's previously mentioned "Oh, come off it" speech. The ghost did come across as nicely menacing (my favorite part was when he turned into the flock of ravens). Not to mention my chuckling a bit over Xander's sudden crop of illnesses, and Giles commenting on the PC terminology that he's still barely restraining himself from referring to Americans as "bloody colonials".

And I've got to admit, it was interesting to see Spike actually permitted to sit with them at Thanksgiving dinner - even if still tied up and without getting to have any of the food.

Incidentally, I can't help wondering, from this episode, what it would be like if, in some odd crossover event, Buffy and Co. found themselves required to stop one of Demona's genocidal schemes, and learned in the process about Demona carrying out this scheme in order to avenge the treatment of gargoyles by humans. Would they go through the whole "apologetic" business all over again?

ANGEL: Also a good one. I very much liked seeing how Angel responded towards being human again, and the ending had a nice poignant quality to it (Angel's the only one who'll ever remember, and he'll also know that it's now something that never really happened). The "coming apocalypse" bit near the end definitely whetted my appetite.

And I've got to admit, the promo for next week's episode about Buffy and Spike in love is positively creepy!

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 06:24:52 AM
IP: 216.87.40.218.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hi all!!

Fleur if your reading this,check your email.

Jenna:*Hugs*Cheer up:),Oh and I do hope that you have less trouble moving house than our family did(water got into our stuff last time and ruined a lot of possessions)

Pistof re Joyride:Heheehehehehehe!!!!,That was cool!>:),oh and as for the name "Official CR Revenge Technician" all I have to say is,how apt. >;)

Nowhere to Hide:Great story as always TGS,thank you for the entertainment.

Green Baron:Sorry to hear that your sick.I do hope that you get better soon

Blue Caeru:Welcome back!

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 05:42:59 AM
IP: exip-t-002-p-202-198.tmns.net.au

**RP!**

[Solomon Brand and his mutate cohorts look surprised at Asil's exchange with Thailog, upon which they're spying via their cloaked hovercams. Sol: "Thailog...Thailog...where have I heard--<gasp> Alexander Thailog, Nightstone Industries?" Griffex: "No wonder he's so reclusive, if what we just heard is any indication of what he's been up to..." Sol: "Gentlemen, this has ceased to be amusing." Solomon stands up, adjusts his sunglasses, brushes some stray popcorn off his leather jacket, and grabs his walking stick. "These women are clearly agents of some rather large and rather dangerous organization, most likely bent upon national or world conquest if that bit about Washington was accurate." The trio of gargoids speaks up: "We are but seven against what could be an army of hundreds or *thousands*. Perhaps these recordings should be submitted to the military." Sol: "I get the feeling the military can't do jack against these people. It's up to us..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

Mara> <<I dunno what you were doing, Wilek...>> That makes two of us...ack...

Jessie> Idiot film students> Oi...I hope this movie or whatever it is gets them kicked out of their class. >:(

Jaden> <<I've always thought of Broadway as a more of "Gordon" type.>> Me too, although I was thinking more along the lines of their relationship than their individual personalities. :)

Doug> <<Yes, that does mean this is my last post before the weekend>> Bye for now, glad it won't be long. :)

Warpmind> <<What the heck is a Bando, anyway?>> Um...In RL, I think it's someone in a marching band. In my ficverse...well...hehehe...

GXB> You have...a Beast Wars...Ravage...?! <twitch> I really have to check out Gamecave (online import store) more often...Is this Ravage figure's design very true to the actual character's?

Jenna> <hugZ; you need 'em>

Robby> <<Ya know, I've noticed something about Pokemon, Digimon, and Monster Rancher. While some people hate all three shows, anybody who likes one of them despises the other two. Why is that?>> I don't know; I kinda like all three of 'em. Pokemon's critters are among the most interesting from a xenozoological standpoint (not to mention the technologically fascinating Pokedex), Digimon has the most interesting plots (and the ever-kewl Weregarourumon), and Monster Rancher has that kewl wolf thingie that looks like Treble from the Mega Man games. :) Naga's laugh> <hehehehehehehehahahahahahaha> I like this. >8) <loads the WAV into an orgone accumulator rifle and goes hunting after Mr. Disconnect>

Green Baron> <<For the last few days, I have had a bad cold and I am now recovering.>> Ack...At least you're getting better. :)

Aaron> <<And I liked your fic bit. Characters arrive, various bits of Wilekian weirdness happen, to which I say (a la Lawrence Fishbourne in Event Horizon) "We're leavin'.">> <L> Wilekian weirdness, eh. I like it. >;) <<I wouldn't let my brother play with Swope, because I was afraid he'd break it. My mom promised he wouldn't. (Twenty seconds later) Hey, how do you-SNAP! He broke it's head off. There are times in life where you're torn between crying, and going absolutely batsh!t psycho.>> The former is (marginally) more cathartic, although the latter is a little more constructive as it does a good deal more to solve the problem. ;) <<Matty's throwing in the towel. He's doing his Nixon, and telling us we won't have Matt Watson to kick around anymore. I'm tempted to write him and tell him not to go. If nothing else, think of all the entertainment we've gotten out of him. (with some help from Mara)>> Indeed? Blast, no more MSTs. :/ Hopefully whatever he's working on next (he said he'd be working on another fic series?) will be just as exploitable. ;)

Anne> <<is there any chance of a crossbreed between a gargoyle and Fae?>> Probably; gargs and humans are pretty similar compared to Fey, and faeries could probably shapeshift into gargs quite easily. <<I'm considering a topic for an up-coming fanfic--a crossbreed between a gargoyle and Fae. But I'm kind of edgy about it because of the possibility of powers, stone during day, etc., and I sort of need this info soon, but no websites I find have any info on the topic, and I don't have cable anymore.>> Um...I think there's something at Ask Greg (somewhere under www.s8.org/gargoyles) that could help.

Heather> <<Q > What is it about him ? Because I know more alot about him and John De Lancie.>> Actually, this Q is some gadgeteer from the Bond movies. But I find all things James Bond rather boring anyhow; Star Trek's Q is a LOT more interesting. ^_^

SJ> <<gonna have to go away for the weekend for Thanksgiving. I'd be thrilled with the holiday if it didn't mean having to spend time with my family. I only wish that was a joke.>> Oi...Sincerest condolences to you and anyone else in here to whom this applies...

Jewel> Aaaaccckkk....if it weren't against the law, I'd probably arrange to have you kidnapped and returned to the CR rather than having to face...<shudder> your family. O_o' How some of the families I've heard about in here could be capable of creating such all-around kewl people as yourself and SJ is a mystery of the ages...

Kitainia> <<BTW, speaking of Pokemon, does anyone else get a creativity demon of seeing Pikachu executed as a traitor to his race after seeing the Pokemon Yellow commercials? ("You and Pikachu, catching as many as you can...")>> <L> Now that you mention it, I do think the feral Pokemon population might be ticked. (Although the court records wouldn't be too interesting to read. "Machoke. Choke-ke? Machoke?" "Charmander! Charmander." "Squirtle?" "Pikaka-PIKAAAAAA!!!!!" :P ) <<Maybe I'm just of the ball-cramming mindset here. :)>> Not gonna go anywhere NEAR that one... ;) j/k

Pistoff> Joyride> [Wilek simply stands there staring for several minutes, his expression that of a garg who has just seen a work of the most exquisite beauty ever created.] Oh...dear...gawdz...<kneels before the mind-boggling genius of the Grand High Revenge Technician>

**RESUME RP!**

[The Avatar's medical wing is now crowded with SJ's visitors, all of whom are quite glad that, despite being currently unconscious, SJ is well enough to accept visitors. Khesaat: "Thank the gods everything's quieted down, at least for now. You never really appreciate boredom until it isn't an option anymore. <grins>" Rho: "I'll drink to that. Before all this started, we would have considered the Daleks' protest of the Administrator's acquisition of the Dark Star II a pretty big annoyance. Now it's almost quaint." Wilek: "Eh?" Rho: "You didn't know? The Daleks are up in arms--" Khesaat: "Or whatever those are--" Rho: "--about the Borg getting that station. Apparently they aren't satisfied with getting a sector of the Avatar." Khesaat: "I can kind of understand that, though; They *did* lose their own starbase to Guod's branch..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 02:28:10 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

****BEGIN RP!!!****
Everyone begins to leave with the hope of seeing that their friend was alright. Glancing around Jaden finds Wilek lingering.
"Hey Wilek," Jaden says walking straight up to him. "You want to know why I was so cold?" "Alright, sure." Wilek replies interested.
"Ok so Orion lost someone close to him, most people can sypathize with that. But in my own way I consider him lucky. When I first woke-up after my mast...I mean that evil scientist made into to this big ball of fur I didn't know who I was, I still don't. All of my memories before then are gone for good. For all I know I could have a family out there; parents, a wife and even children. Heck I'm not sure how old I am. Even if I did do you think I could just walk up to them and say 'Hi remember me?'. Yes Orion lost someone, but at least he has the memories."
With that Jaden turned and left. Once he rounded a corner he smiled and thought, "I hope he stews all day over that."
****END RP!!!****

Geez I just realized what time it is. I'm going to make this fast since I have to work graveyard tomorrow.
I'm going to be gone on vacation until Sunday or Monday so I'll be gone till then. Dry your eyes, I'll think of all of you everyday ok? ;)

Matt Watson leaving- Sad. I really don't think he should stop righting. So some people don't like his stuff, the best way to improve that is to keep writing and learning.

Well that's all for now. Must have sleep.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 01:55:54 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Greetings all...

LOSS OF A WRITER - It's sad to hear that Matt's giving up the ghost, so to speak. Personally, I never much cared for his take on Gargs, but it was his baby and he had every right to write it... It will be a less shiny place without his presence.

FAVORITE AUTHORS - Without a doubt: McCaffrey, Zahn, Tolkien, and Stephen R. Donaldson (Mordant's Need binary & Chronacles of Thomas Covenant), Bill Baldwin (The Helmsman Series), Jack L. Chalkner (Dancing Gods series, but especially the first 2 books), Piers Anthony (Xanth), Tanya Huff (Summon The Keeper, and her short story "A Midsummer Night's Dream Team"), Christine Morgan (do I really need to mention? <GRIN>), Deborah Chester (Lucasfilms' Alien Trilogy), David Weber (Honor Harrington books)...

MISTING FICS - Let me add my two-bits here: Unless I specifically say so, and send a email or snail mail giving writen permission, none of my fics are avalible for MISTING.

GREEN BARON - Hope you get better, GB... God Bless!

TO ALL BIRTHDAY PEOPLE I MISSED - Happy Birthday!

JENNA - Hope you and Mike pull through, hon! Keep your spirits up! :)

Thats all for now! Will talk more later! Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 01:34:50 AM
IP: m40.ieway.com

Uuuuhhhhhhh, what a week. Well, first things first...

The following Joyride is dedicated to a dear friend of mine. This one's for you, Jannie! :D

**JOYRIDE!!!**

Xanathar glances around. "Um, where's Pis? Whenever he wanders off, something really sick or screwed-up happens."

"Isn't that the whole point of us being here?" Wilek answers with a grin.

"I know, but when he wigged out a few weeks ago..."

"Well, in retrospect, it's quite entertaining. I can't wait to see what he does next."

Pistoff calls out to them from across the room and waves them over. They join him and he points at a supremely mean-looking bitch of a woman who just walked into the room.

"Imagine meeting her here! That's Mrs. Dodd. She's the principal at the school where a very close friend of mine works. Dodd's such a heinous bitch, she'd make Demona look like Pollyanna."

Xanathar releases an insane chuckle and hefts his chainsaw. "Cool! Let's rock!"

"Hold on. This case requires something...special." Pissy looks at Miriam. "I think this situation will require...Project 23."

Miriam's jaw drops. "How did you know about that?"

"'Cause I'm the one writing this segment. It's called third-person omniscient POV."

"What's Project 23?" Xanathar says.

"You don't need to know that," Miriam says coldly.

"Remember the bull that raped DC a while back?" Pistoff grins. "Well, it went on a rampage and Miriam's organization captured it. Thought it would make a nifty bioweapon or something. Miriam, would you be so kind as to bring Ba'al?"

Miriam just looks at him. Wilek chuckles. "You can always flashy-thing everybody later. This might be fun."

She sighs and pulls her high-tech cellphone out, walks away and speaks to somebody for a moment, then returns, pocketing the phone. "Just a moment."

There's a flash of light and a huge black bull appears. His eyes are glowing like hot coals and puffs of flame fart out of his nostrils with each breath. There are a number of cybernetic implants running through his body, just under the skin, like steel belts. Miriam begins a reluctant explanation.

"Since Ba'al demonstrated a certain...natural talent...on DisConnect a few weeks ago, we decided to work with that and see what comes out of it."

Pissy giggles. "Heh...'comes'..." He clears his throat, looks at the bull and points at Mrs. Dodd. "Do her."

Ba'al snort and bellows, then charges straight at Mrs. Dodd, who looks up and sees him, and is too terrified to even scream. The bull topples her over and...does its thing.

The Joyriders watch in a sort of fascinated horror, wincing at the hideous CRUNCH as Mrs. Dodd's hips are dislocated and her legs flop around uselessly. Her screams are drowned out by the bull's roars. Occasionally the tearing of flesh can be heard faintly. Finally, with a long, drawn-out bellow, Ba'al...er, finishes his job. Miriam walks away, speaks into her phone, and the bull vanishes in a flash of light.

"Don't worry about the flashy thing," Jack says with a grin. "Nobody would believe this story, anyway."

"Oh, it's not quite over yet." Pistoff smirks at Miriam. "Would you like to do the honors, or shall I?" She takes a remote control from a pocket and hands it to him wordlessly. Pis grins. "Ba'al's...um, gentleman's relish...is loaded with nano-explosives. Check this out, it's really cool." He points the remote at Dodd and presses a button. Her abdomen pops like a zit and she shrieks for almost a minute before finally croaking. Smiling, Pissy hands the remote back to Miriam.

The others stare in awe. Jack grins.

"Bitchin'!"

**SICKNESS OVER...FOR NOW**

MUAHAHAHAHA!!! Y'know, since a lot of people here have taken CR titles, maybe I can be...the Official CR Revenge Technician. heheheheHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, on to replies... :)

Jannie: Sorry things have been so rough lately. *hugs* Hang in there, it'll get better soon. Hopefully, the Joyride above has contributed to that end. :)

Mandolin: Yikes! That editor of yours is a real piece of work. Good luck on getting rid of her. :)

Mara: Okay, I sent the pic a few days ago, then got swamped by RL crap once again. Hope it wasn't too scary. ;) Looking forward to reading more of your MiSTs, when I have time. Hey, if you ever wanna borrow Jack Hammer for one of 'em, feel free. I think he'd be more than happy to help. He's that way, y'know... *evil chuckle*

Wilek: <<:O That...is just...evil. <applauds>>> *bows* Why, thank you! :D <<Heh heh heh. I can just see the sliders arriving in my universe... ["I think it's the Wilekverse." "This one looks pretty normal for once..." Forfexx strolls by, trailing someone's intestines from his claws. "Oh...dear...*gods*...<choke>" "<looks up> Please tell me that wasn't a TIE fighter I just saw overhead?" Someone else runs by, being chased by a xenomorph. "SOMEBODY GET US THE <censored> OUTTA HERE!!!!"] >8)>> Yesss! This one I GOTTA see! ;-D And...that link...oh gawd! The horror! The horror!!!

Big breasts: Wilek made a good point about this. I think society pretty much programs us to think this is desirable. And so many people buy into it. Not just Pamela Lee. How about Dolly Parton? I heard once that she has back problems now. And she's had her waist cinched so damn tight that it caused internal damage and she had to have parts of her innards removed. Now, is that not f--kin' stupid, or what? Why can't people just be satisfied with what they were born with?

Anne: I'm still here, just haven't had time to post or even read the CR for the last few days. :( About humans adopting garg customs...well, my family is pretty well dispersed all over the country, and several of us are quite...messed-up. One takes medication to keep from flipping out, and another _should_ take medication but refuses to do it. Things would probably be different if we had garg customs...I'm not sure who would be leader, second, etc, I don't really know any of them well enough to determine. I probably wouldn't pay attention to what they say, anyway. *L* Thanks for sharing about your family. :) As for the TV exploding...without being plugged in?!?!?! Oh my god! That must've scared the crap out of everybody! O_O Good luck replacing the TV, and I hope that never happens again. Sorry about you losing your fanfic files. :~( Things like that have happened to me before, and I know it's Not Fun. Hope your dad and sister weren't hurt when they fell down the stairs, and I hope you can find those files.

Fire Storm: <<"Hey... WTF are you doing? WHAT THE... GET THE F%$& AWAY FROM ME! NO! I AM A GUY, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! NO!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!">> ROTFLMAO!!! As for the "cure," I forgot to mention that the water should be warm. It'll really make the guy wonder... ;)

Zath: Oh my gawd, that apartment is terrible! It's the management's responsibility to take care of problems like that. If they won't do anything about it, then they don't need your rent money anymore. Looks like it's time to hit the road. Best of luck finding a better place...though I can't see how you could find a worse one. <<they should just torch the place (to save the time/cash of using a bulldozer and get some insurance money in the process) and start over from the ground up.>> Sounds to me like the place is too soggy to burn. O_o <<How on earth do you get all the calls for that many people being routed through a single phone line!?! Is Pacific Bell or whoever was responsible insane (in the bad way)!?!>> Well, I didn't phrase that properly. It's not a single phone line, it's a bunch of lines that go through the same pipe, or whatever they use. But the whole thing got knocked out. :/ <<[Beak is Beautiful] could make an interesting bumper sticker or t-shirt>> hehehe...could make a fun item to sell at the next Gathering... :) <<I used to live in a place that had a paper mill/newspaper recycling plant right *IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN*!! The stench was especially bad in the early mornings and evenings when the air was still and humid, trapping it all in the area instead of letting it dissipate.>> AAAACK!! Oh, am I familiar with that. One of my early-morning paper routes was near a paper mill (not near it, quite a distance away, but there was nothing between it and the area of the town my route went through). Gaaah, it made my eyes water... <<She had that wide-eyed "oh $#!+" look that I never knew a feline face was capable of making. : )>> *LOL* I've seen that look before. ^_^ It's priceless. <<I suppose it would be better to look like someone people should be afraid of rather than seeming like an easy mark, at least as far as safety is concerned.>> Oh, very true, very true. This is probably the only reason I haven't been in more fights than I already have... ;)

Jenna: <regarding people who do this for a living> Well, I just meant people who move entire houses full of furniture and stuff. I've moved countless times in the past ten years, and I dread the moment when I'll have to do it again, whenever that happens. I'm glad you're good at it, though, I just don't envy anyone who has to do things like that every day. BTW, sorry I haven't answered your email. Been swamped, lately. I'll get to it ASAP... :) Sorry things have been tense with the car problems and unpacking and everything. I hope things get better soon. *hugs* And don't give up writing. I've been doing it for ten years, and have never been published in a magazine. Editors have called my stories "trite," and worse--yet there are people who like what I write, and that makes it worthwhile. It's frustrating at times, I know, but there's no feeling in the world like getting a good review from a fan. Keep at it, and you'll get that "high" on a regular basis. :)

SJ: I haven't seen Richard Simmons recently. You're right, he's a parasite. Making money off of people's insecurities. The guy makes me sick. *adds Simmons to the ever-growing Joyride hit list* About big breasts--I dunno, when I see big boobs, honestly, the first thing that goes through my mind is, "Cool. A woman whose boobies are bigger than mine." ;) And I love your idea about the "Women of the CR" calendar. :D Let's see if we can get this set up.... Oh, and that Babylon Files thing...ROTFLMAO!!! >8D

Now, a bit about people complaining because the new Bond movie is formulaic. Um...aren't just about _all_ of them formulaic? Let's see...there's a megalomaniac and his secret crime syndicate trying to take over the world, and only Bond can stop him--humping as many so-called beautiful women as possible along the way. That pretty much sums up the plot of every Bond movie except maybe License to Kill--and I remember people complaining about that one because it _didn't_ follow the tried-and-true formula. So, people complain when a Bond movie _doesn't_ follow the formula...and people complain when it _does._ A James Bond movie is about cheap thrills, formulaic or otherwise. Don't take it so seriously, and don't expect an Oscar contender. It's just for fun. :)

Kitainia: <<Thanks for the continued compliments, and for explaining Clyde's origins. Doug and I continue to look forward to the story when it comes out.>> My pleasure. :) Glad to know you're looking forward to it. I can't wait till AvMists comes out, myself. ;) The full-length story that'll be posted in the fanfic archive later will have quite a few surprises and some familiar faces--including Graeme. *g* As for Susan Powter--As Wilek said, she's sort of a female version of Richard Simmons. She's ultra-thin and has white hair cut real short like a marine. She makes money off of people's insecurities, just like Richard Simmons. She tells people to lose weight so they can become Beautiful People. She makes me sick. *adds Powter to Joyride hit list*

Jessie: Holy $h!t! That Mr. Lee guy...sounds like so many pervo nutjobs I've delivered pizzas to. :O This is really scary. I'd recommend SJ's idea. I hope that guy doesn't keep harassing you. But if he does, it would be a good idea to notify the cops, maybe even file a restraining order if he doesn't leave you alone. Also, sorry I haven't answered your email. Been really busy lately, plus we've just had a family crisis. I hope to get to it tonight or tomorrow....

Aaron: Glad to see a more positive review of the new Bond film. :) I haven't seen it yet, but sooner or later I will, if I have the time and money to spare. I agree that nobody should play Q except Desmond Llewellyn, but if I'm not mistaken, John Cleese's character will be different. I think he's called "R" or something. And let's face it, Llewellyn can't keep doing this forever, though I certainly wish he could. *shrug* I thought GoldenEye was okay, but I enjoyed Tomorrow Never Dies a lot more. Had some great satirical stuff, and a fun villain. I also like the way Pierce Brosnan plays Bond--more emotional, and he actually shows fear at the appropriate moments. Previous Bonds were just _too_ cool under pressure. One of my favorite moments in TND is when he leans on that dragon statue and it spits fire, and he almost jumps out of his skin. ;) <<That old guy in the purple bikini underwear didn't jump out at you with a rapier and yell "Nyar!" did he?>> Actually, he did--but then his false teeth fell out, so it wasn't very effective... ;)

Sarge: Loved that blonde joke! LMAO!

Shogun Raptor: I agree completely with your PC rant. I'm not fond of rap music, but I do agree with something Ice-T once said--"Freedom of speech...just watch what ya say."

The bonfire tragedy: It's sad, a terrible shame that this happened...but this just shows that such "traditions" are foolish at best. Especially when they keep trying to make it bigger and bigger every year. And I've heard that they're planning to continue this tradition, after what happened. WTF? I hate to sound cold-hearted about this, but look what happened! Just because it's a tradition doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do! This goes right along with what I was saying in "Jock Itch"--when it comes to sports, people's intelligence levels plummet. *sigh*

Jessie again: Those film student...oh...ohhhh...what a bunch of f--kin' morons!! Oh mu god, just when you think you've heard it all...oh, crapola! I hope those guys, through some freak twist of genetic fate, are all sterile. The gene pool is already polluted enough, without $h!theads like these making it even worse.

Favorite authors: Hmm, in no particular order--William Gibson, Lewis Shiner (his "Hacker Files" comic books are a real hoot! :), Joe Clifford Faust, Hunter S. Thompson (one of my heroes :), Neal Stephenson, Spider Robinson, Wilhelmina Baird, Chris Claremont ("FirstFlight" kicked serious ass!), Allen Steele, Carl Sagan ("Contact"--'nuff said). I'm probably forgetting some, but I've got a lot on my mind....

Doug: <<Clyde is Jon's grandson? Okay, that makes sense. :)>> Yep. ;) You'll be able to read the bare-bones version of the story as soon as the latest AvMists is posted. ^_^ I'll read another of yours and send some feedback as soon as RL calms down a little. Hope you and Kit enjoy your Thanksgiving. :D

Dragons/gargs interbreeding: Hmm...funny that this comes up, since Christine and I were kinda talking about it in email. ;) Actually, what I'm wondering is if gargoyles might be the result of humans interbreeding with dragons. After all, gargs have characteristics that are common to both humans (same basic body structure and, presumably, similar internal organs; females have two breasts; human-like faces, with rare exceptions) and dragons (splayed feet that are built for jumping, talons, wings, and in some cases, beaks). I haven't read a lot of fantasy, but I've heard about stories/novels in which humans and dragons get...romantic. ;) Which I don't mind, simply because it flies in the face of this whole "Beautiful People" thing our society is so stuck on... *g*

Green Baron: Sorry you've been sick. Hope you get well soon. In case you don't get back in here until Sunday, as you said, I hope you have a happy Thanksgiving. :)

Matt Watson's note: Yeah, it's kinda sad. As a writer, I know it hurts when somebody insults you or makes fun of you. But in this case...well, there's an exception to everything, and let's face it--crap is crap. But there are plenty of other bad writers out there for Mara to MiST. ;)

Well, I think I'm all caught up now...probably missed some, but if I did I'll get to 'em tomorrow. :) And since people have been talking about politics, I'll leave you all with this little gem...

"Most of my friends have hated Nixon all their lives. My mother hates Nixon, my son hates Nixon, I hate Nixon, and this hatred has brought us together." --Hunter S. Thompson ^_~
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:46:31 AM
IP: wire-12.koalas.com

**RP HERE, ENDING ORION'S TRAGIC TALE**

"That's terrible," Gubio makes an understatement as the Ravens recover from Orion's pronouncement. "You killed her?" The cleric nods. "Unfortunately, yes, though I didn't know it at first. The devil cast Tanith aside after I hit her, continuing to laugh at me. 'What price has your faith wrought you, cleric?' it asked. 'Go on and serve God from this day forth, see if it brings you any happiness.' Then it disappeared. I nealry fainted, I think the shock of my recent experiences was still sinking in. I had not expected God to choose me like that. As you now know, I wasn't exactly a model Christian, though I did intend to become so after I was ordained." "Maybe you were like Paul," Kitainia says. "He wasn't a good guy at first either, and he was a lot worse than you." "Yes," Orion smiles. "That conclusion was one I quickly came to. But not for a while. First I had to run to Tanith's side, and see if she was alright. She seemed fine, and asked me the reason for my concern. I told her I loved her and that if I had hurt her it would be the end of my life. She shook her head, smiled wonderfully, and told me that though I was sure I had hit her very hard she felt no pain. She also had no visible wounds, so I left her and went to tend Bert and Jeremy. They were both hurt very badly, and it was in helping them that I discovered my new power to heal." He sighs. "But just as I had finished with them, Tanith called out to my name. I ran back to her side, but was too late. Something had happened to her. The last time I saw her she had seemed as full of life as ever, too fatigued from her spellcasting and the recent battle to get up, but still alive and happy as well. Now she was laying still as death, and I had never seen such grief as I saw on the last expression of her face." He shakes his head. "I prayed to God to bring her back, or give me the power to do so, but it failed. Bert and Jeremy saw this and they comforted me, but for a long time after that I was still depressed beyond imagining. I had lost the one thing which meant everything to me, and against that nothing else mattered. Soon my friends and I drifted apart, because we had lost the heart of our foursome. Then for a while I went through a crisis of faith and was surprised that it did not cause me to lose my powers. God trusted me, I suppose, and eventually through serving him I managed to regain the faith that I had in myself. Then I took my vows, began my duties, and became what I am now. I have found some measure of joy and peace in this life, and yet the memory of Tanith and what I am sure I did to her still haunts my dreams. It's been years, and there's never been anything that could take it away." "That's so sad," Erin hangs her head, looking about to cry. "And there's never been anyone else for you?" "There can't be," Shauna points out. "He's a priest." "Even if I wasn't, there wouldn't be," Orion sighs. "She was too special for that." "We all know how you feel," Lathrop says. "If I ever lost my wife..." "Will you guys get over this?" Jaden interrupts him. "Orion, the woman is dead. No use crying over spilt milk, okay? We all know you didn't mean to kill her!" "Jaden," Wilek raises an eyebrow, "when did you become so cold?" "Uh...never mind," he sputters, turning away. Doug frowns and looks back at Orion. "Look, we all feel your pain, man. It's possible, though, that it's unnecessary. I mean, you said there was no wound on her right, so maybe you didn't kill her." Orion shakes his head. "I know I did. Even if I didn't, I could have done something. Divined her condition, healed it. I was too faithful in my love of her and that it would not end so suddenly to even think of doing something like that. I am as responsible for her death by my inaction as the cornugon was by forcing me to strike." "You ever see that cornugon again?" Shap asks. "No," Orion replies, "but if I ever do..." He clenches his fist and makes unnecessary further words. "Well," Kit says. "Thanks for telling us the story. It was sad but interesting." The others nod in agreement, Jaden still looking away as Mist turns over in her sleep. Wilek stands up and is about to offer to take Orion to the bar for sympathy drinks when one of the Avatar medical staff walks out of the nearby examination room. "Excuse me," he says, and they all turn to face him. "Yes?" Doug asks. "Your friend Anton Sevarius Jr. is still unconscious, but if you want to you can see him now." "Great," Kit smiles. "Let's go."

**END FIRST BIT RP**

Hi everyone. Hope you all have had a good day and are getting ready to have a good Thanksgiving weekend. Doug and I will be leaving tomorrow afternoon for ours, so this is my last post in here for a while. :) We'll miss you, and will be sure to give a full report when we return. Hope there's good stuff to give. (I'll be seeing his family again, including his mother. <sighs> You all know how she feels about me. She'll also be meeting my parents, and I have no idea whether or not they'll like each other. Right now I'm crossing my fingers that it will all go well.)

Thanks to all who have shared in our sadness about the A&M tragedy. I'm currently still mourning the victims and praying for their families. More than that, though, I pray that this doesn't become A&M's version of the UT Tower closing. In other words, I'm hoping that they keep holding the Bonfire despite this because people enjoyed it and just because a great event goes wrong once and a few people die does not mean the event should be canceled for future participants just because of the slim chance it will happen again. I'm also hoping that the spirit of camaraderie and friendship instead of rivalry that has developed between UT and A&M because of this endures, and (because I think they deserve it to lessen the impact of what has happened) that A&M wins the upcoming game. :)

Favorite female characters based on decisions and actions: (animated TV)- Elisa, Angela, Demona, Black Arachnia (Beast Wars and Beast Machines), Teela, the Sorceress (He-Man); Lisa Simpson, and Catwoman (Batman: TAS). (live-action TV)- Buffy, Willow, Cordelia, Lisa (Now & Again), and Scully (X-Files). (fanfic)- Asrial, Aiden, Elektra, Horny Corny (from Pistoff's ficverse), Nikki, Rachel (these two are from Doug's stories, as you know), Sata, and Jennifer Camford (Pendragon). (videogames)- Rinoa from FF8, Jessica and Mia from Lunar, and Celes from FF3.

On that note, here are my favorite male characters based on the same criteria: (animated TV)- Goliath, Brooklyn, Broadway, Lex, Matt Bluestone, Xanatos, Owen, Macbeth, Arthur (from Gargs); Rhinox, Megatron (Beast Wars and Beast Machines); Lowlight, Snake Eyes, Destro (from GI Joe); Terry, Bruce (both from Batman Beyond and the latter from Batman: TAS as well), Venom (Fox Spiderman), Bart Simpson, Homer Simpson, and Moe (from Simpsons). (live-action TV)- KITT, CSM, Duncan McLeod, Xander, Giles, Angel, Doyle, and Richard Fish (Ally McBeal). (fanfic)- Agony and Jadriel from Doug's, Jericho and Ebon from Christine's (I count Ebon as seperate from Thailog since they're not alike); Richard, Harthoth, Roland, and George from TGS; Rain from Coyote's, Wagner from Stormy's, and Koz and Jack from Pistoff's. (video games)- Squall and Irvine from FF8, Rufus Shinra from FF7, Kyle and Alex from Lunar, Ivan from Soviet Strike, Locke and Edgar from FF3, and (believe it or not) Luigi from all the various Mario games. :)

Dags: Janurary 8, huh? Okay, I've marked my calendar. Thanks. <shakes head> It's going to be trying my patience to wait this long. If anyone can send me a bootleg copy, drop an e-mail. I'd be willing to pay in great amount if the movie lives up to its hype (smaller amount if it doesn't). :)

Mission Impossible 2: Not looking forward to it. The first movie was enough of a travesty of the old show, why do they have to prolong the horror? I won't be seeing it, but I pray don't make Max, Nicholas, Shannon, and Grant bad guys in this one like they did to Jim in MI 1. I liked the old Mission Impossible show so much, and if they ruin the memory of it any more for me and the rest of the general public...<chuckles as she thinks about having Asil torch the studio in RP and then possibly doing worse IRL>.

Nowhere to Hide: Read and enjoyed it, thanks to all TGS Staff for the entertainment. The character development and dialogue were both excellent, and the pictures were really great. It was a little heavy on the action, but I guess I should have expected that. :) The fighting was nice to read just the same, since it was written well enough to come alive in my mind. Looking forward to further upcoming plot developments, hope TGS stays on its streak.

Half-Dragons: Well I know Caroline (the fanfic character Doug mentioned) will inherit a lesser version of her mother's breath weapon and other special abilities, as half-human dragon characters do in AD&D. I wonder if it would be the same for a dragon-garg crossbreed. Probably. Other than that, I really can't speculate on what such a being might be like, though I do wonder if one would turn to stone to day or go comatose by day. That and if they'd be compelled to hoard treasure like dragons typically are. Interesting possibilities abound for the character if so (and even if not). :)

SJ: I will be checking out the Fight Club book, thanks for mentioning it. Hope it's better than the film. :) <reads party rant, mutters angrily> It sickens me to hear about that. I am distressed to find that part of humanity has sunk to a new low. <reads Thanksgiving post> I pray you have a good time, despite the possible family troubles. $ Hope to see you RPing again upon your return. $

Recommended Reading: All the books I've liked have pretty much been mentioned already. I don't know what else to add except Christine's novel of course (and novels, when they publish the rest), and the work of William J. Cannell, who has lately been turning out action thrillers as good as the many great shows of that sort he put on TV.

Wilek: Thanks for the Susan Powter info, now I KNOW I hate her. I've had gym teachers like that and they were bad enough on a small scale, let alone having one become famous. <chuckles> $ Sounds like both Powter and Mr. Richard Simmons are going to be getting a horrific death scene in some upcoming RP. $

Jessie Feff: Yep, those guys sound dumb all right. Hope they've learned a lesson from their experience (though I doubt it with the way most people are these days <sigh>).

Spike: Thanks for the AI teaser, I continue to look forward to the fic when it comes out.

Green Baron: Glad you're feeling better. Best wishes for the Thanksgiving ahead.

Matt Watson: He's leaving? This distresses me because I know his writing was liked by some people. Himself, at least. I have to admit I avoided it myself, but knowing from living with one how sad a writer has to get to give up his craft like this...I can't help but feel bad for him and mourn the fanfic community's loss.

Robby: <Ya know, I've noticed something about Pokemon, Digimon, and Monster Rancher. While some people hate all three shows, anybody who likes one of them despises the other two. Why is that?> This isn't true for everyone. I've never watched either Digimon or Monster Rancher myself, so I don't have an opinion about them. :) BTW, speaking of Pokemon, does anyone else get a creativity demon of seeing Pikachu executed as a traitor to his race after seeing the Pokemon Yellow commercials? ("You and Pikachu, catching as many as you can...") Maybe I'm just of the ball-cramming mindset here. :)

**BEGIN SPOILERS FOR BUFFY & ANGEL**

Both of these shows had good eps tonight. The historical preaching in Buffy annoyed me as much as it did SJ (and yes, I too was smiling thankfully when Spike tongue-lashed them with the truth). The vengeful Chumash spirit still made a good villain, though, so it was somewhat bearable because of that. And the ep's character development on Spike, Buffy, and Giles combined with its comic bits from Xander, Spike, and Anya made it worthy of a 7/10 from me. Looking forward to next week's ep though it sounds a little unbelievable right now (Spike and Buffy I can NOT see together) and also hoping that Spike soon tells what he knows about the Campus Commandos (Riley hinted he might know of their goal, because of that I'm quaking in supense).

As for Angel, like SJ I enjoyed seeing Angel as a human. It was a little surprising at first but the emotion of it DB's good acting displayed soon made the situation interesting and entertaining to watch. It was good to see the character development on him and Buffy too. I didn't like the idea of an oncoming apocalypse of some kind too much, but if the eps concerning it turn out to be good I suppose I can stand them. I just hope Kate shows up to fight on the good side when they come around (I like her as a character and also know that Angel will need all the help he can get if he's facing an entire demon horde). I gave the ep an 8/10, two points off for the somewhat formulaic plot and uninteresting generic villain.

**BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS END**

Jewel: Sorry to hear you've been depressed lately and pray it ends soon, even though I know that doesn't help much right now. :( My best advice to you is to get out of there if you're not liking it, and move back to a place where you can live happily and endure, like your friend said. I also suggest that until this can be accomplished, you try your best to bear and live through the pain no matter how long it must continue, knowing that someday it will pass. Doug and I will be sending our prayers, hope they help. Feel free to send e-mail to us if you need to vent to someone in a way that the CR can't display. No matter what happens, you've always got friends in us. :)

And on that note, I guess I'll be leaving now. See you all again after Thanksgiving, and again I hope you have as good a time as possible on it. Until we return. <waves>

**RP AHEAD, CONTINUING THE ASIL SUBPLOT**

"So how are things going in LA?" Thailog is asking Asil via a video satellite comlink. "Here our plans are proceeding more smoothly than I can believe." "That's good," Asil grins back. "It's going fine here as well. I recruited some new goons for us who are preforming adequately so far, we've killed a lot of Hollywood celebrities who needed to die, and we've just returned from heisting enough supplies and weapons to set up a fully-stocked base in this city." Thailog nods. "Excellent. You do know, of course, that you aren't supposed to take Los Angeles yet. Not until we are ready here, and Nipon and Zale carry out their initiave on Washington." "I know," Asil laughs, "but that doesn't mean I can't cause some damage in the meantime, right?" "Just as long as you don't attract any of our enemies to attack you." "Don't worry, I haven't yet and I don't think I will. The only problems I've had so far were a police chase that we easily escaped from and a bout of depression Storm Eagle went through after she killed the celebrity she planned to make her life partner because he treated her like trash. She's getting over that now." "Good," Thailog says. "I'm glad you haven't had any real trouble, but if you do, I want to know what you have planned." "Right now?" Asil shrugs. "The usual. If anyone shows up and tries to stop me, whether it be the government, my idiot sister and her friend-hero brigade, or anyone else, I will kill them. That's worked in the past, and I'm capable of it now. Nothing will stand in our way here, dear Thailog. Trust me." "Alright," Thailog nods. "I hope you are able to handle this. By the way, Edison and Kharsus finished building the item you wanted. They mailed it this morning to your LA address." "Excellent," Asil says, letting out a maniacal cackle. "What is this item, anyway?" inquires Thailog. Kit's evil clone shakes her head. "I'll tell you after I'm sure it works. If it does, it could turn our entire campaign around. If our wizard and scientist did their job right, soon nothing will be able to stand in our way." She grins back at Thailog's unconvinced frown and logs the transmission out.

**END RP AND POST**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:25:56 AM
IP: pool-207-205-151-106.dlls.grid.net

Yeah! I actually cleaned my bookshelf in many weeks! Ye- *thump* Ouch!

Good luck choosing! Here is what I have:

"It" by Stephen King. The very long story (but it goes short) about seven friends--_losers_--growing up into successful business folk, and then one day are called back to home because a great evil they fought as children has awoken again. A very good story, about faith, evil, and finding strength with friends in desperate situations and for fun. The only book to ever scare me, too. 9/10 (Horror)
"Misery" by Stephen King. A famous writer gets into a car crash and gets picked up by an avid reader who wants him to continue his novels even though he's killed his main character in his last book. And she'll do anything to get him to do it. A scary book, kind of small for Stephen King to write, but it's still good. 8/10 (Horror)
"Watership Down" by Richard Adams. When a small group of rabbits leave their home in trying to escape the future fate of their ignorant friends and family, they run into many great adventures, sad and happy. This is one of my favorite books, definitely in the top 5. 9/10 (Fiction)
"My Sweet Audrina" by V.C. Andrews. Audrina Adare is torn between wanting what is hers and what was her older sister's while facing a heartless "cousin" and other people in her family. The only book by V.C. Andrews that isn't in a series and doesn't have incest in it at all. Very disturbing though, and somewhat dramatic. But still, it's very good. 8/10 (Horror)
"The Crystal Cave" by Mary Stewart. Introduces Merlin as a young boy, growing up, and finding a crystal cave where magic is held. Great story, and continues with "The Hollow Hills", "The Last Enchantment", and "The Wicked Day". 9/10 (Fantasy)
"The Clan of the Cave Bear" by Jean M. Auel. This takes place in the early age of Man, when Neanderthals were still alive. A human little girl is adopted by a Neanderthal clan and grows up with special abilities that get her in trouble or blesses her. Followed by "The Valley of Horses", "The Plains of Passage", and "The Mammoth Hunters". My 3rd favorite book! (Fiction)
"The Homing" by John Saul. A woman and her two daughters move on a bee ranch where there are two dark horrors awaiting them. A very disturbing book, but also good. 7/10 (Horror)
"Blue Willow" by Deborah Smith. Two friends have always been destined for each other but it takes them long--perhaps too long--to admit it. This book makes you feel like you're riding on an emotional rollercoaster! 8/10 (Romance)
"Flowers in the Attic" by V.C. Andrews. After a tragic accident, four perfect children are locked in the attic of a huge mansion while their mother selfishly excludes them and plots a horrible secret that will haunt all of them forever. A dramatic book, but here's the surprise--it's based on something real! 7/10 (Horror)
"Petals on the Wind" by V.C. Andrews. The children escape the attic but Cathy, one of the siblings, can't leave the past behind her. A truly great revenge yet to be spent on dear mommy-dearest. This is a great novel, one of my favorites but it may annoy some people because of the perfection needed in Cathy's life. Sequel of "Flowers in the Attic". 8/10 (Horror)
"If There Be Thorns" by V.C. Andrews. This is the most bizarre book I've ever read. Don't wanna say more. Sequel of "Petals on the Wind" 6/10 (Horror)
"Seeds of Yesterday" by V.C. Andrews. The siblings return to the mansion they were once locked up in to face new nightmares. Once again, disturbing, bizarre, dramatic, and somewhat annoying. 8/10 (Horror)
"The Bastard" by John Jakes. I'm not through reading all this yet but it's excellent, about a boy who immigrates to America and has yet to go to war in the 1700's-1800's. Followed by seven sequels. 8/10 (Historical Fiction)

I have a lot more but I'm getting super tired. But here we are to normal posts....

Heather> Thanks! Hang in there! Just jump into any topic at any time, you'll love it ^_^

Jewel> *hugs hugs hugs!* Please don't be so depressed! Your family is wrong! Awfully, HORRIBLY wrong! What right do they have to say it's all your fault? If I were there I'd give them what was coming to them--a good smacking and then brain transplant that at least allows them to TRY to understand you! A few years ago, when I was eleven, I considered suicide because my life was so bad too. I don't know how common it is out there, but a few things have become better, a few things worst, but I finally broke down and had to tell everybody who was bugging me to f--k off literally, I was getting hounded down so badly. After that they left me alone, but the people around me are different from the others around you, but I really hope things get better. For Thanksgiving my prayers are with you :)

I'm considering a topic for an up-coming fanfic--a crossbreed between a gargoyle and Fae. But I'm kind of edgy about it because of the possibility of powers, stone during day, etc., and I sort of need this info soon, but no websites I find have any info on the topic, and I don't have cable anymore. *Grr* Why oh why did NBC have to cancel Gargoyles???!!! Ah, well, TGS staff? Do you have any comments????

Well, gotta get ready for bed, because I have a hectic day tomorrow. Hope everybody has a nice night 8^)

Bye all!

Anne
MN, USA
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:17:46 AM
IP: 209-130-164-138.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Buffy: I liked this week's ep. Although the kissy-face of next week's ep does look truly frightening...
Angel: All I have to say is "Poor Angel!!!!!!"

SJ: <<I'd be thrilled with the holiday if it didn't mean having to spend time with my family. I only wish that was a joke.>> I hear you completely. I'm dreading Thanksgiving.
This is actually going to be the first Thanksgiving I've had with the people I'm stuck related to in 3 years. And oh, what a thanksgiving it will be--I just found out my mom knows that I'm back in Georgia, and have been for close to a month. She won't talk to my big brother now, because he didn't tell her. I also got chewed out by my grandmother, who thinks I'm in the wrong with Mom. I should be used to this by now--Mom's the Pretty Little Princess and me, I'm just the family troll with a "bad attitude," so I'm always wrong.

Warning! Depressed rant!
Well, I've got to spew my depression for a while, or I'll go insane.
<sigh> I'm beginning to wonder just why it is I came back down here. It seemed to make sense when decided--help out my big brother, and come back to Georgia, since I missed Georgia. I forgot how miserable all of my family makes me. I realized today that I was actually turning suicidal again, and I hadn't had a thought like, "It would be so easy to just slit my wrist..." since I left here over four years ago. I used to be suicidal; I didn't like it and greatly preferred not being so--I don't think I realized until now how much my constant state of depression when I was younger was tied to these people some great, sick cosmic *joke* has made me related to. The realization that I'm going to be here at least six month to a year is not helping. Truth be known, when I typed that, I almost had a panic attack and felt like I was caught in a trap.
I'm so stiffled here. I can't be myself, I feel trapped, I have no outlet, and I'm miserable. Wonderful combination.
A friend of mine, as soon as I told her my mom found out I was here, tried to convince me to move back up to Virgina--actually, her exact words were "Get the f--k out of there. You know you have a place to stay if you do." I wish I could. Thanksgiving is going to be a nightmare, and I already know the entire family is going to blame me for it, as they always do. Oh, well. I only have to spend a day and a half with my family, then I go visit friends for the weekend. Seeing my friends will help me get my balance back, maybe get me kinda back to normal.
Well, I'd better go get some sleep. I get to make an 8 hour drive tomorrow, all so I can spend time with the family for a day.
<bangs head on desk> Someone shoot me in the head. It would be quicker and far less painful...

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:01:27 PM
IP: 98a76188.ipt.aol.com

Recommended reading > the "Chicks in Chainmail" series, the "Hot Blood" series (I've been into anthologies lately; they're like a big sampler box from Sees), Koontz and King.

Will be updating my site soon; I have been gifted with many new pics lately! (half of them are Jericho, strangely ... <g>).

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 10:44:36 PM
IP: 206.43.16.93

Well, unfortunately I probably won't be in here starting Thursday...gonna have to go away for the weekend for Thanksgiving. I'd be thrilled with the holiday if it didn't mean having to spend time with my family. I only wish that was a joke.

Kaioto: Good points about politics. I agree that Buchanan is not a Nazi, but he doesn't help himself on some of his own views. He may not be necessarily racist, but he often does come across as quite xenophobic. I can't really criticize his America-first policy, cause at heart I truly believe we're the greatest nation on earth, so to do so would be hypocritical.
I agree also about Dan Quayle. I'm not necessarily a big fan of his, but I do agree that the media has had just a little *too* much fun at his expense. I totally agreed with his stance on single-parenting. I firmly believe that broken homes and families are one of the greatest causes of our societal ills. I can comment on this from personal experience: my sister had to raise two children by herself (not by choice), and...well, things are not easy right now, thanks to the @$$hole of a father they were stuck with.
But to resort to my general cynical point of view, Americans will almost always be a bunch of sheep when it comes to choosing their leaders. It's the YAVIS syndrome--Youth, Attractiveness, Vocal ability, Intelligence, Social skills. Basically, if you have a good looking man (like Clinton) who can talk out of his ass real good (like Clinton), he'll go far politically. This is why I laugh whenever people bitch about the politicians they themselves voted into office--if you want to take the system for granted and vote for the good-looking snake oil salesman, be prepared to be bitten on the ass down the road.

Author List: I'd like to add a few other folks --
Kathe Koja, who writes some very dark, very disturbing, grim and gritty horror such as "Skin", "Bad Brains", and "The Cypher". Dark and bleak are her style.
Poppy Z. Brite, cause again I like the dark stuff.
Jonathan Carroll, who has some truly remarkable fiction out there. It's tough to classify his work--it has elements of horror, drama, mystery, and fantasy all in one. Try and scope out his chilling first book, "The Land of Laughs" (even though it is quite rare). If you can't find that, start with the earliest book of his you can find. "From the Teeth of Angels" tells one particularly evil portrayal of Death.
And finally, if you like the macabre, and are a fan of folks like Tim Burton, try any of Edward Gorey's work. It's all very odd, and very dark--case in point his short set of illustrated prose "The Gashlycrumb Tinies", detailing the various gruesome ends of children (26 in all, one for each letter of the alphabet).
Speaking of Tim Burton, his "Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy" is very similar in many ways to Gorey's work...

Matthew Watson: I don't know, like Jenna, I was kind of saddened by Watson's note. We all kind of ridiculed his work something awful, and speaking as a very paranoid occasional writer myself, having one's work trashed is not fun. We did it for amusement. True, Watson may have not been the best author, and we may have disagreed with his take on certain characters, but he had every right to write what he did. I don't know, I feel real guilty for laughing at his fic. I too feel that his work was something of a catharsis for him; as such, perhaps the constant scorn was not appropriate.

***BUFFY AND ANGEL REVIEWS***
Buffy: Tonight's episode was *okay*. I liked much of the humor tonight, most provided perfectly by Xander and Spike. Xander, of course, was a nervous wreck over his possibly syphilis ;) And Spike works great as a deadly villain and as a comic foil.
What annoyed the hell out of me this episode was the constant preaching in it. Yes, we know that the real meaning of Thanksgiving was the Pilgrims thanking God that they wiped the floor with the Indians. This episode had a looooot of PC bullcrap in it. Spike was my saviour tonight as he gave the whole group a good tongue lashing in what I consider the honest truth: The Europeans came here, they virtually destroyed the indigineous people, they took over. That's the nature of civilization. ALL civilizations are essentially formed over the broken bones of a previous organization. I speak this as someone who's ethnic background is almost completely half-Native American. I know that most of my ancestors one one side were raped and killed by the Europeans; it was a horrible thing, but what the hell can you do? Like the vampire said, there is no restitution that could be made. It was an evil thing that was done, but that kind of evil has been done since the beginning of time. We are a species of conquerors that kill or dominate those who are not part of our own particular "group". It is a behavior that must be changed, true, but it is part of our nature, and to drone on and on about how horrific it is can get quite tedious.
Other than that, an okay episode...6 outta 10, maybe. Next week's looks much better, what with Buffy and Spike playing kissy-face.

ANGEL: Very good Angel tonight. It was interesting and emotional to see Angel become human for a day, and I was touched to see him give it all up for Buffy, even if it was a little forced cause you knew they'd have him give it up in the last 10 minutes anyway. But finally we see some emotion other than angst on David Boreanaz's face! And Buffy and Angel finally deal with their emotions for the other....well, before that all got time erased. You can't help but hope that the guy finds happiness one of these days.
The most interesting tidbit of the episode was that apperently the Buffyverse has some sort of Gehenna in the works. Don't know what this "End of Days" is, but 2 things I'm sure it means are 1) trouble and 2)NOT Ahnuld Swarzennegger. Overall, an 8 outta 10.
***END REVIEWS***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 10:10:48 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Mara > Yeah! Someone else who watched Square One! You went and got that "Probability" song in my head...that was one of my favorite bits. I also loved the "Dirk Niblick" theme..."Here comes Dirk Niblick of the Math Brigade! He'll look you right in the eye..."

Fave authors > Watership Down is probably my favorite book. (The movie is kinda neat, too, especially the origin myth part at the beginning--I like the funky stylized animation.) Hmm...Saki is probably my favorite author of all time. Also love Lloyd Alexander, E. Nesbit, Fritz Leiber, Gordon R. Dickson's "Dragon Knight" books (the older ones, at least), and probably my favorite author who is still living, Jon Hassler. Which is kinda weird, becuase I mostly like fantasy and sci-fi stuff, and Hassler's work is pretty realistic. Really no way to describe them, though...such rich characterizations and situations. If you ever see his work, especially Staggerford, Grand Opening, or North of Hope, give 'em a shot.
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 09:56:48 PM
IP: ctrts2-3.mrs.umn.edu

GSIDE: "I am a semi anime fan (seen some, liked it), and but I've been wondering what does SD stand for (or translate as).


Shame on you! ;) SD is short for Super-deformed. In other words, thesmall baby-like head-as-big-as-all-git versions of regular sized anime characters. Sorta like X-babies.



Coyote-sama" *Now* I know why that phrase looked so familiar! I used to watch
that show religiously, mainly because math was my weakest subject in school and I hoped it would help me ... I wound up getting more interested in the writing of the sketches than the math aspect. Ah well
... "

Can't blame you there. It was one of the best written for young teens shows out there. Funny and informative and the songs would just get stuck in your head! The sketches were the best.. although one of the videos on probabilty scared the heck out of me ( i was young, gimme a break!) This pizza guy gets stuck ina haunted house and has to use probabilty to get out before he gets killed (or something). The music was good, though...

"Probabilty... dont you mess with me. Help me make a ghost of a chance.. if i win or lose, still i hafta chose, so let me make a ghose of a chance..."
Spacebabie: "About Zoisite's laugh, The woman who did the dub(Kirsten Bishop)Also did the dub for Emerald, I guess they thought her laugh was annoying enough"

And it IS... My lord Emerald scores high on the glass-shattering chart
Mara Cordova
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 09:29:30 PM
IP: spider-te072.proxy.aol.com

Coyote> 220 bpm?!?!?!?!? How?
We have dancing tubas too. And they sing incessantly and lewdly on the bus. (What's a tuba for? 1.5" x 3.5", unless you order full cut.)
I could rip you our cadence if you want to hear it.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 09:05:17 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Gside: Cool beans link there. And in return, here's mine ... I believe you'll discover those differences between Big East and Big Ten bands I was talking earlier ... my name link goes to the SMB website.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 08:37:11 PM
IP: zzz-209252248066.splitrock.net

Doug: <though it does require making my image of Falstaff a little thinner and older> Falstaff has always been an old man:
"Have you not... a yellow cheek, a white beard,... and every part about you blasted with antiquity, and you yill call yourself young? Fie, fie, fie Sir John!" (2 Henry IV, I, ii, 187-193)
But does Macbeth keep himself in shape, or is it the spell?

CR reading list: has anyone mentioned Douglas Adams (both HHTG and Dirk Gently), Frank Herbert, or Ray Bradbury?

eclectic music tastes: Try The Band, The Beatles, Tchaikovsky, Creedence, and my band recordings, among others.

Bando> style differences: I find it hard to say. First of all, I am not very familliar with what you did. Then we at RU are very strange. This year we have high stepped, roll-stepped, ran, and strolled in sets all in the same day. However, we generally roll step in curvy lines. For pregame, we have more angular sets (and a countermarch). My link goes to our web page.

I am a semi anime fan (seen some, liked it), and but I've been wondering what does SD stand for (or translate as). (some=1st half of Evangelion, 1st 4 Slayers episodes, Ninja Scrolls, DBZ on Cartoon Network, half of the Broadcast.com archive, and yes, I will admit to Sailor Moon)

This morning the network here died when they were upgrading some hardware and they messed up. This may deserve a Dis Connect death, save for the fact that I am usually blessed with either an ethernet or a cable modem.

I must say that I am awaiting CSH's Asrial Interactive. (I am a computer scientist/computer engineer)
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 08:15:25 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

<sarcasm> I love pet stores.</sarcasm> I went to go buy a rat for my pet snake. Petsmart, as I mentioned once before, refuses to sell me a rat because they don't want to sell their precious little rodents to be food. So I had to track down another petstore. All the guy at Petsmart told me was "There's one near the Walmart"...neglecting to say *which* Walmart. Which is a problem, since Walmarts multiply with about the same speed as *rabbits*. I asked my big brother, and his directions were about like the directions everyone in my family gives...bad. So I finally find the hole in the wall, and tell disafffected Gen-Xer that I need a rat. He goes and gets me one, putting it in the box and taping the box up before I can see the thing. I drive home, listening to a combination "Thorwing Copper" and slowly suffocating rat. So I drive home, and discover I can't get the box open, since the guy put too much tape on it. I finally rip the cardboard, and this *gargantuan mutant rat* starts wheezing it's way out. I didn't even finsih opening the bo, I just held it upside down in Max's cage and prayed it wouldn't be too big for Max to eat....cause if it was, there was no way I was going to be able to take it back. Max looked at it, and instantly hid his head (*big*, smelly rat). I'm just hoping he eats it...

Well, I had something surreal happen. I got an e-mail from one of the old profs at Bryn Mawr, who said she had forwarded one of my fanfic to an editor she knows--edits a mag called "Weird Times" (which used to be called "Worlds of Fantasy and Horror"). I'm pretty sure she sent the first few, which were sh!t, and basically got the reply that was "unpublishable as they stand, but fixable" and gave a link to the guidelines for writing. Which the prof managed to read as "needs to edit and then can publish." I kinda squawked when I realized she had sent stuff to an editor friend to look at and didn't tell me...

<g> I just realized I didn't say what authors I liked or books I would recommend.
General favess: "Watership Down"--if you haven't herd of it, it's about rabbits. But read it anyway. "Where the Red Fern Grows." A boy and his hunting dogs.
Manga/comics:"Sanctuary" by Sho Fumimura--my big brother called it "Ayn Rand lite" but I still think it was an amazing series. "Strain" by the same guy. Also, the mangas "Banana Fish" and "Black and White." All of "The Sandman" series by Gaiman (but props go out to "The Kindly Ones" for being the best). "Kabuki: Circle of Blood" is also amazing.
Horror: Stephen King's "The Stand," "It," "Misery"
Short story: Harlan Ellison's "Knox."
Humor: Terry Pratchett's "Small Gods"

Time to see if Max has eaten yet...

jewel
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 06:39:59 PM
IP: spider-we043.proxy.aol.com

I've been missing for a while due to classes and stuff, but this is a quick post before I leave to go visit my family over Thanksgiving. Speaking of which, I hope you all have a great one!

Matt Watson's Note: I think writing those stories was mainly a cathartic experience for him. I haven't read any of his stories entirely, but I think he just needed to vent somehow, almost like writing in a personal journal. I just hope he is happier and better-adjusted now.

Pat B.: Well, I still find Pat Buchanan sort of scary... As for Dan Quayle, I thought it was pointless of him to attack "Murphy Brown" like that (not that I'm saying he's as stupid as most ppl make him out to be). The media has always glorified and simplified things to the point of being unrealistic. *sigh* I don't think there is very much anyone can do to change things, but if enough people make a reasonable protest, things _can_ improve.

Dark Ages> I just skimmed through the new ep, and I keep telling myself I have to get around to reading the whole series. :-P
Blue Caeru
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:55:24 PM
IP: spider-wd044.proxy.aol.com

FAVORITE FANTASY AUTHORS - This would include Tolkien, C. S. Lewis (both the Chronicles of Narnia and the "Deep Space" trilogy), Lloyd Alexander (the Chronicles of Prydain), David Eddings (the Belgariad and the Malloreon), Mary Stewart (her Merlin trilogy, one of the best pieces of 20th century Arthurian fiction out there, which I highly recommend), and the one that I discovered this year, Terry Pratchett. I'm going through Pratchett's books now (I just finished "Feet of Clay" and will be starting on "Hogfather" next), and am quite enjoying them. They offer a particularly intriguing way in which a fantasy series can evolve; they started off as simply a sort of spoof - kind of a fantasy equivalent of Douglas Adams's "Hitchhiker's Guide" books - but have increasingly developed a strong amount of philosophicalness, and some very touching character moments, although they still have the humor.

There's a number of elements in the books that would appeal to "Gargoyles" fans. There are some living gargoyles in Ankh-Morpork, the dominant city of Discworld (if with a rather different style than our winged friends - they're more like architectural gargoyles brought to life, talk in a muffled sort of way because they can't close their water-spout mouths, and usually stay put in the same place - which makes them good police look-outs once they get informally inducted into Ankh Morpork's city guard), and the city itself is ruled by one Lord Vetinari, who is quite Xanatosian in style. (As I said once, I actually found myself "hearing" Vetinari's remarks in Jonathan Frakes' voice). There's also a fair amount of Shakespearean parody about, and one book, "Lords and Ladies", brings in the fay - and in a very chilling fashion.

(Incidentally, those who recall my "4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse" creativity demon might recall that my depiction of Death in it was definitely modelled after Pratchett's - at least in that he spoke in all capitals. When Pratchett co-wrote "Good Omens" with Neil Gaiman, he gave the Death in that book that quality as well; I'm not familiar enough with Gaiman's work to know what elements of Gaiman's Death the Death of "Good Omens" has, though).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:53:10 PM
IP: 216.87.40.63.dialup-stl.primary.net

Mara: *Now* I know why that phrase looked so familiar! I used to watch that show religiously, mainly because math was my weakest subject in school and I hoped it would help me ... I wound up getting more interested in the writing of the sketches than the math aspect. Ah well ...

SJ: That's ... disturbing (about the party).

Wilek: Uhmm ... no. Naga does not show up in Slayers NEXT, she appears in (best of my knowledge) the two OVA Slayers films ("Slayers: The Motion Picture" and "Slayers: Dragon Slave"), which precede the first season of the Slayers TV series ... though I do understand that midway through the first season she managed a nonspeaking cameo ...
Anyway, if you think the laugh's bad after hearing the .wav Robby linked ... you oughtta see the woman that laugh comes out of. Hoooo boy ...

Warpmind: A "bando" is anyone who has participated in any kind of school band (concert, symphonic, jazz, marching, etc.). Myself and Gside are collegiate bandos or former collegiate bandos ... myself at Michigan State and Gside at Rutgers.

Incidentally, while I'm thinking about it ...
Gside: A band related question for you ... how much difference is there between the Big East band style and the Big Ten style? I'm very curious ... the two bowl games I went to (Liberty and Independence), the opposing bands (being Louisville and LSU, respectively) were quite literally *stunned* by the kind of stuff that the SMB did on a regular basis. (And I'd imagine that if ESPN's Citrus Bowl prediction is accurate, Alabama's band is going to be equally as stunned. ;)

Favorite Authors: I'll divide it into categories here, I have many favorites ...
Comics: Peter David and Frank Cho
Serial science fiction: Timothy Zahn.
Fantasy: Terry Brooks and Anne McCaffrey
Military: Stephen Coonts (particularly his Jake Grafton books ... "Flight of the Intruder" is my all-time favorite book)
Horror: Stephen King

Heather: Stick around, it'll get better for ya. **hugs**

Gotta get dinner now ... ordering a pizza, and dammit I'm driving *MY* car to get it!! :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:42:29 PM
IP: zzz-209252248066.splitrock.net

Everyone > Awww... you guys really DO want me to stay. **hugs everyone and kisses Robby** I know he does.

Q > What is it about him ? Because I know more alot about him and John De Lancie. And i finally saw "Deju Q" for the first time, I never saw it until I bought the video on my birthday.
Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:30:32 PM
IP: 98ce9ff8.ipt.aol.com

Hey everybody :)

Ack...so much to catch up to... Day's pretty okay, but I have so much to catch up as mentioned. I didn't lose seventy stories really, but I lost a lot of info on the 70 fanfic stories I was planning to write, and the first one I wrote also disappeared along with a few of my stories I was planning to publish in the future.... What gets me really mad ever since all this weird stuff happened is that I was kinda getting excited to watch Dusk Till Dawn 3 and then that whole thing got ruined when the film got caught and ruined. *Grr* Just my luck! Homework, chores, friends, and a bunch other stuff I have to get to work on. But still...

Jenna, Jannie> *hugs!* Hope things get really better!

Kiato (sorry, real bad speller on last names :( >Great speech...starting to really learn more from here then in the books!

Any news about Lexy? I haven't met her but she sounds really fun and nice, and when I went on the archives on S8 she wrote a note to Greg and I don't think she's annoying at all, just fun ^_^

I can't wait for tonight's Buffy and Angel! Does anybody else feel at least a twitch excited? Hey, are you still out there Pistoff???

Heather> I don't really know you but you sound really nice! You can lurk, but at least let us know you're alive! PA-leeezz??

Well, on the books, everybody has mentioned who I would recommend, but my fav's are Watership Down, The Anita Blake series, The Crystal Cave, It, uh, I forget the others because my bookshelf's been dusty ever since school began, but that'll change soon.

About the dragon/gargoyle thing, I don't really know how to reply to, but my memory's kind of rusty on one subject--is there any chance of a crossbreed between a gargoyle and Fae?

Oh, better get working on my fanfic--chores--homework--ah, back to the a-b-c's again! >:( Oh well, I have B/A to look forward for tonight, unless the TV explodes again.

Gotta go, dinner--beef stew...yummy :)

SYL!

Anne
MN, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:28:11 PM
IP: 204-246-241-109.nas2.apv.gblx.net

IT'S THANKSGIVING VACATION! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.... ::BAM::....OW!

Doug- You type a lot....I like that....:) It makes me glad to know I'm not the only one......(though in this CR room I write seldom)

Girlfriend- Aww thanks for the thank-you's....:)

Gotta go! DINNER!

Sarge
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:12:20 PM
IP: spider-wi081.proxy.aol.com

Wilek- Found a site that has Naga's laugh. Click my name to hear it, but be warned and turn your sound down to half volume or you'll regret it.
Robby
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:12:04 PM
IP: spider-wc011.proxy.aol.com

Jenna> Yes, read it and loved it. I think it would make a great animated feature, if handled right (That means no singing) And the monster at the end should give the kiddies nightmares for years.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 04:58:00 PM
IP: ppp-135.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Jenna - No problem. Doug and I look a lot alike in CR. (In RL we look nothing alike at all). Happy thanksgiving to you, too.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 04:20:22 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

In case I don't get a chance,

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!
jenna
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 04:10:40 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

David-- **blushes** I'm sorry, it was Doug. **blushes again** However what your doing for Sabledrake has intreged me--I can't tell you how often that happens to me!
jenna
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 03:55:08 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Hi everybody. Sorry I've been out of touch for like a week now. When the site went down the other day I couldn't get in from home even after I could get in from work. I'm hopelessly bhind on the conversations now.

Jenna - What fic? Were you actually answering somebody else? I'd love to know you were reading my fiction, but I haven't specifically sent you any.

Favorite Authors - The list changes from day to day, and sometimes I really like an author for just one thing, and don't like anything else he's written. (Stephen King for example - I loved the Stand up until the end. The rest of his stuff I could take or leave. Except "The Body" That was cool.)

What's going on in my life - I had the first installment of my Sabledrake serial almost finished, then decided to re-write most of what I'd already done. I hate when that happens, but it happens all the time, so I guess I'll have to get used to it. Other than that, I don't really have a life. Whenever I'm under a deadline, it consumes my entire existance. Now I'm working under three different ones. This is incredably scarry. Fortunately, the other two are fairly long term things, so I can mostly concentrate on the serial.

What's going on in other people's lives - I wish everybody (well, everybody who celebrates Thanksgiving) a safe and happy Thanksgiving. At the very least, I hope people get the chance to enjoy the long weekend.

I guess that'll have to do for now. My attendance is going to be pretty spotty for a while. Things may be better if my home browser will let me into the CR again. I think they should.

See ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 03:41:57 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Well not feeling so bad now, so that's very good.

Aaron- you read Tail Chaser's song too? I loved that book!! I still have it and still remeber parts of it.

Read about Matt Watson- the letter made me..sad. **Shakes head** I don't know why. Regardless of personal opions- that kind of got to me.
jenna
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 02:58:55 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Grrrr> That's supposed to be *Swoop* not swope. Somedays I just can't spell at all.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 02:39:58 PM
IP: ppp-135.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

I was going to do a full review of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, but I'm just not motivated. Suffice to say, I enjoyed it. And I hope like all get out they do a licensed reproduction of Walken's sword. I want it!

Robbie> I wondered why you asked. I know in some comic book I read, written in the background was the message Who is John Galt? I was wondering if you'd read the same book, and that prompted your question.

Pistoff> That old guy in the purple bikini underwear didn't jump out at you with a rapier and yell "Nyar!" did he?

Mara> (Mouth moves but no sound) "It's PAMALA!" (Mouth keeps moving) Good one.

Wilek> That link was evil, man. And I liked your fic bit. Characters arrive, various bits of Wilekian weirdness happen, to which I say (a la Lawrence Fishbourne in Event Horizon) "We're leavin'."

Transformers>I had a lot of the little ones. But my pride and joy was Swope, the only dinobot I could never find. I still don't know what my uncle had to do to get me mine. (Shift to Denis Leary voice) Had it for eighteen hours. (Shift back) I wouldn't let my brother play with Swope, because I was afraid he'd break it. My mom promised he wouldn't. (Twenty seconds later) Hey, how do you-SNAP! He broke it's head off. There are times in life where you're torn between crying, and going absolutely batsh!t psycho. I've mostly forgiven my mom for that. Mostly.

Warpmind> Believe me, I know all about being short and skinny.

Zath> Ah, isn't the runaround fun?

SJ> Interesting site, though slightly inacurate. Capturing Moremons is easy. Just enter their territory and yell "Free Jazz tickets! Courtside center!" Trying not to get crushed in the resulting stampede is the tricky part.

Has anyone seen Matt Watson's new Note to his readers? Matty's throwing in the towel. He's doing his Nixon, and telling us we won't have Matt Watson to kick around anymore. I'm tempted to write him and tell him not to go. If nothing else, think of all the entertainment we've gotten out of him. (with some help from Mara)

jewel> Eclectic eh? Well, I keep my stuff in straight alphabetical order, and sometimes that makes for some odd juxtapositions. Like this weekend I went from Metallica, to the soundtrack to The Mission, to The Monkeys, to Monster Magnet, to the monster mash. Riding with me can be a disconcerting experience. (Of course, my brother would say riding with me is always scary, and it has nothing to do with the music, but that's another story.

Recommended reading> Well, discounting previously mentioned things:

Robert Parker's Spencer books.
Harry Turtledove's alternate history stuff.
Tad Williams's Tailchaser's Song(which would make a kick @$$ movie if handled right)
and, if comicbooks count,
Garth Ennis' PREACHER
Drew Hayes' POISON ELVES
Fred Perry's GOLD DIGGER (Though Fred's been slipping lately)

Speaking of Preacher...

Stormy> Any chance of seeing a pic of Wagner as the Saint of Killers anytime soon?

Christine> I know Q's getting on, but John Cleese isn't exactly young either. And we changed M's without any explenation at all. If we need a new Q, why not someone younger, possibly a nephew of Q or something. (Yes, I know I'm stealing from the old James Bond Jr. cartoon)

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 02:34:17 PM
IP: ppp-135.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Hello all.

For the last few days, I have had a bad cold and I am now recovering.

::takes out Attila's gun and blasts Sli Sludge::

With Thanksgiving holiday, I probably won't be able to post again, until Sunday, so I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving and so does Attila. I am just glad I was able to make it to school today.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Three things run the British Navy: rum, buggery,and the lash :), Sir Winston Churchill
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 02:14:57 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Just Deep sixed Concentric and we are now using Mindspring, the only problem is now I have to redo all my bookmarks.

Robby:About Zoisite's laugh, The woman who did the dub(Kirsten Bishop)Also did the dub for Emerald, I guess they thought her laugh was annoying enough.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 01:07:26 PM
IP: user-37kaotn.dialup.mindspring.com

Oii, I have 7 days to draw 12 pages plus a cover because I've been slacking off. And I have Timedancer stuff I should be working on. Geez... I really shouldn't even be on here now...

**TV SHOW SPOILERS**

Pokemon... Sunday's episode was good, but the comic handled the Richie story much better I think. Then again, it sort of depends on how next week episode goes, though I have a very good idea... I'm a little peeved off because today they played the first episode and restarted the airings, even though they weren't nearly through all the episodes yet. This annoys me cause I wanted to tape them and wasn't prepared for the first one to come on so soon...

MIB- Dissapointing, since the plot was basically stolen from an earlier episode. Heck, the SUBPLOT was stolen from the SAME episode! Yeah, there were a few new twists and the bug queen looked pretty cool, but this weeks episode, like last week's underwater one, were dissapointing in both humor and action.

BEAST WARS- I know it was a rerun Monday, but I was a bit preturbed to see an important couple of seconds cut. When Depth Charge was tryign to drive a shard of energon through Rampage's spark, the original airing showed Rampage stop resisting, as he accepted his fate, the cut makes it look like Depth Charge just shoves it in. Maybe for time, maybe for content, but this cut bugs me.

Monster Rancher- today was a Tiger of the Wind episode. I liked it.

**END TV SPOILERS**

Ya know, I've noticed something about Pokemon, Digimon, and Monster Rancher. While some people hate all three shows, anybody who likes one of them despises the other two. Why is that?

Favorite authors- Orson Scott Card, hands down. Some of his stuff has lacked a litle, but for the most part, its all good and Ender's Game remains my favorite book. I'm looking forward to reading Ender's Shadow...

Doug- I think you were the first one to get the question of "Who is John Galt" right... I'm being forced to read the book for school. Pretty boring so far, and long. I hope it picks up soon...

Wilek- Actualy Naga only appears in the Slayers movies and OVA's, (thankfully) so Slayers NEXT won't be quite right. Just searching for Slayers may do the trick. Failing that, try Slayers: The Movie, SLayers: GREAT, Slayers: Explosion Array... If you've ever heard the American version of Xoisite from Sailor Moon laugh, you get a fraction of an idea of Naga's annoyingness.




Robby
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:47:42 PM
IP: spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com

On another note- fantasy authors that I like- Greg Weisman, J. Michael Straczynki, CS Lewis, Tolkin (the god and father of modern fantasy), the Dark Angel series (I cannot recall the author at this point- Meredith something); Richard Adams (Watership Down); Edith Hamilton.

Sorry the pokemon link is not working, I think that page may be down.

I included my em addy with my last post, so if anyone cares to send me a synopis of what happend on Buffy, you can do so where I can see it right away.

That's all - laters.
jenna
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:36:47 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Jannie -- hugz--I have been in your place many times before, more times than I care to admit. many many hugz to you sister.

Politics- I know it sounds bad, but I really have no intrest in it whatsoever. It just seems so detached from my everyday life, and there is no canidate that really speaks for me- people are either too far on the left or right..

david- bear with me, I haven't had a chance to read your fic yet- it's the one thing sitting on my bookshelf that is not packed- I'll get too asap.

**big sigh** well things are still strained. we are all frazled, and tired. Mike wrestled with the car this morning, and I was late for work as a result. My boss wasn't too happy, but he got over it (thank god- I need no more stress now) later I got to cover his arse and he was thankful- so that is always good. WE had forbes magazine come and interview our president today, and there were some things that we had to replace (plaques on the wall that needed to be updated) He didn't know Forbes was coming and I told him, and we busted our arse to get the plaques changed in time- so that was good for employee relations for yours truely.

Poor Mike is very stressed. He got no sleep last night, and I was plagued with nightmares. I think it is all the stress of moving, living with my brother in law, and money, and the car, and school. Sometimes, I swear,sometimes It takes all my strength for me to keep my sprits up, cause I know if I just let myself feel down once- that will be it. I hope everything will be better after the move.

As for my personal fanfic- doesn't look like it will be up until mid Dec. It really is infurating, at times I swear I'm tempted to junk the entire thing or writing all together- it just gets so damned frustrating, when you wanted some thing up in Aug, and it looks like it will be up in Dec.

Well, enough venting for now..sorry if I was a downer.
jenna - [Jennifer.Garcia@glm.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:29:58 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

BOOKS > To elaborate:

"Skywater" is about the odyssey of a pack of coyotes as they go on a quest to find water. The story almost takes on epic proportions as we see the coyotes struggle and persevere. Great story with great "human" characters.

"Grendel" is a retelling of the Beowulf legend, but from the monster's perspective. Through the monster, we see humanity in a different light.

Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:07:46 AM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

::Walks into the CR::

Things have been going great for me for the last two weeks. On Saturday the 13th I went to the Big Apple Comic Con and picked up a few comics, and sold making some money. And I met Mira Furlan (Delenn from "Babylon 5"), lovely woman, I think I'm in love.

My "Gargoyles: The Third Age" saga is now well beyond the planning stages, and my first story should be done very soon. Like Babylon 5, it's going to have a five year arc made up of several arcs (which I have already planned from beginning middle and end).

My favorite Authors: Greg Weisman, J. Michael Straczynski, J.R.R Tolkien, Peter David, Neil Gaiman, Mary Stewart, and Michael Reaves. The first two are tied as my faves.

Doug: Looking forward to "Inner Demons" part 2. Part 1 was great. I like how the Rose part of your saga is developing. And the developments with Demona and Seth are quite good. Are you taking them where I think you are? I'll send you feedback on your other stories as soon as I can.

All this talk about which Transformers people had leads me to write up my own list. Galvatron (which I still have mint), Cyclonus (which I also still have), Shockwave, Optimus Prime, Starscream, Ramjet, Devastator, Skullcruncher, Trypticon, Scorponok, Metroplex, Sky Linx, Hunn-Grr, Predaking, Omega Supreme, Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, and a few others. Now for Beast Wars I have. Optimus, TM Optimus, Optimal Optimus, Megatron, TM Megatron, TM2 Megatron, Rampage, TM Tarantulas, Quickstrike, TM2 Dinobot, TM2 Blackarachina, TM Cheetor, TM2 Cheetor, TM Rattrap, Depthcharge, TM Waspinator, Tigerhawk, Inferno, Silverbolt, I just need a Rhinox, and a Ravage (they made a Ravage in Japan).

Later...
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 09:23:46 AM
IP: 166.109.44.146

Favorite Fantasy Authors>> Terry Pratchett (Discworld), David Eddings (Belgariad), Sterling Lanier (Hiero's Journey), Simon Hawke (The Wizard of... series), Katherine Kurtz (Deryni & The Adept series), Marion Zimmer Bradley (Darkover), and Anne McAffrey (Pern).

Dragon/Gargoyle mixes>> Um.... well, one of my fellow artists on the Wulf archives spectulated on elf/dragons combinations so it's not that unusual a topic. All I have to say is that it would to be a really BIG gargoyle or a dragon with a really little body part.

"A.I. -- Asrial Interactive" is slowing down a bit due to the holidays but here's a teaser:

A knock at the door caused Lex to jump in his chair and nearly drop his keyboard.
"Ooops, sorry," Broadway said as he leaned into the doorway. "We were just going to have something to eat, Lex. Are you hungry?"
Lexington patted his tummy and felt it rumble beneath his fingers. "Yeah, I guess a break wouldn’t be a bad thing. Sure."
"Hey, what is that you’re working on anyway?" Broadway came into the room and looked at the holographic gargoyle standing there. "Cool," he said approvingly. "You know, if you gave her some spiral horns and changed her color, she’d look just like that clever auntie we had."
"What?" Lex blinked and looked back at his creation.
"Yeah, don’t you remember? She was one of Goliath’s rookery sisters so she was older than us, but I remember her. The sweets that she used to make for the Solstice Celebrations were just amazing. I remember her apple pasties, they would just melt in your mouth and her bubbly berry tarts--"
"Wait a minute! I remember now!" Lex leaned towards the flickering image. "She made things, no – she invented things. I used to follow her around the castle and carry her tools for her when she made repairs." He was barely breathing. "I’ll be – it does look like her. I wonder what her name was."
"Who knows?" Broadway threw up his hands. "We didn’t have names back then, remember? Anyway, I’ll bet that Hudson and Goliath could probably tell you a lot more about her then Brooklyn and I could. They knew her longer than we did."

Spike
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 09:03:42 AM
IP: pppt06-93.ght.iadfw.net

*Looks at previous post and frowns*You should be ashamed of yourself Xanathar,the server maintainers have a hard enough time trying to keep them running without you complaining >:(,there's nothing worse than a poor guest.

Sorry about this guy's but I realised I was being ungrateful.

*Xanathar walks slowly out of the room*



Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:27:50 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

Hi all!!
Trust the CR to go down when I was ready for the top ten for once yesterday. :/

ironwolf:<<listen up all ye transfromer fans. there is a guy on ebay selling transfomers beast machines fig new not in usa yet. the figures? Mirage! Yep racecar robot but he is a evile vechcon????? and a new maximal Buzzsaw????? umm are these orginal names for a autobot and a decepticon?>>Mirage and Buzzsaw were both original transformers figures(Mirage was a blue and white F1 racer and Buzzsaw was a cassette tape that transformed into a bird the same as Laserbeak)

SJ:<<You take out an ad for this jabronie, plant his phone number in there, along with the appropriate "I like it raw" message info. Believe me, when he gets his 800th call from Big Sal from the Pleasure Palace, he'll realize he's been burned pretty good.>>*Literally ROTFLMAO*,Go for it Jessie!,Make him pay! >:)

jewel re book suggestions:I suggest everybody should read the "Lord of the Rings trilogy" as well as the "Hobbit" at some stage. (but then again most people in here have already read them so I guess my suggestions kind of moot)

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 05:03:27 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

Happy B-Day, everyone born in the month of November :)

**warning the bulk of this post remaining is meandering rants about how the media screws with a corrupts the American political system and my disgust with the upcoming election year 2000**

You know … I'm pretty happy that they didn't back down on their legal obligations just because Jesse Jackson is famous. I really think in this case he should be trying to find something more constructive to do with his time. I laughed at it when I found out … then I asked. "Why am I laughing?" I realized it was because the situation was funny, but I also noted with shame that I was dismissing Jesse Jackson as a joke, rather than regarding him as a man.

I would note that even in exasperating times like this, you can't deny that the man has done some constructive things with his time in the past. He is not a nut. He's not the kind of man you can just dismiss with a laugh, no matter how tempting. Sure, in this case, it is humorous and ironic, six of the kids expelled being such a detriment to the school to start with. But I think in this day and age we dismiss people who try to make a difference too easily. I mean, hell, we have a totally compromised and promise-batter based political system, and a sensationalist media. It is rare to find someone who is straight enough you can tell where they stand on things.

I think the same thing applies to Pat Buchanan. I mean, I've read this guy in editorial columns. I've actually listened to his debates and platforms. He's a 50's throwback, I'll give you that. He's not a Nazi, no matter how many times the phrase "Buchananzi" stays ripe. He's a full, America-for-America and screw-everyone-else type of guy. He's a nationalist. He's not anti-minority, he's anti-Affirmative Action. He's against race quotas, so people decide he's a Nazi. Now, yeah, the Ku Klux Klan sent him a letter of endorsement. *LOL* I can just picture how the veins on Pat's forehead must've nearly burst when he heard about it. Great way to help someone win an election … really. *L* The Klan is lives up to its reputation for ignorance once again. All because Pat says we need to crack down on illegal immigration and slow/curb legal immigration. Either way, all we remember him for is that stupid letter and a few media sound-bites and scathing editorials the media feeds us.

Reminds me of Dan Quayle. Poor man. Very intelligent with policy, foreign and domestic. Bad at dealing with the media. Misquoted, quoted out of context, and made a huge target, Dan Quayle was a remarkably smart and well-positioned political candidate who the media made it a point to dismantle after he gave them a nasty crack across the face regarding the way the media had been supposedly promoting and making the single parenting lifestyle glamorous in "Murphy Brown." It was the 80s. It was an issue, and they did a very poor job at depicting it realistically. They romanticized it horribly, and he called them on it. They proceeded to make him the joke of the decade. Goes to show what happens if you decide to start a war with the people who control the propaganda machine. That was likely the only significant stupid mistake Dan ever made in his career, but he'll always be remembered for spelling "Potato" like a graduate from Oxford. Easy for us to laugh at with our North American spellcheckers and all.

George W. Bush … great guy … has name recognition. Has a winning smile. Refuses to get bogged down in anything solid. Can't be associated with much right now. Good move. He can't be made fun of on TV. The American people don't care about the character of their leaders, evinced by Bill Clinton. They care about how they feel about seeing him on TV. Bill Clinton is at worst a joke we laugh with. That's why he is tolerable. Bob Dole is a man who we as a people laughed AT. He was shot in the arm in a war for his country, so now his arm doesn't work quite right. So we make fun of him holding a pen … wtf? … We laugh at him taking a header off a rickety stage and decide "he's too old to be president." Bill Clinton … let's not even go there … I found it best noted by at least one honest caller to the Howie Carr show a few years ago. "Howie, none of that stuff matters. I'm going to vote for Clinton, and many people I know, because he's attractive, to look at, to listen to. He's more amusing and he'd frankly hot."

We wonder why are system sucks so badly. It is because whenever the economy gets good we suddenly don't take issues seriously, even taxes. As long as people have money the principles, agendas, and security go out the window. Spare money? Political Action Committee flavor of the week. Anything the politicians can do to secure a segment vote. Even the Republicans. Who wants to go back to their district with the claim, "I didn't spend any money on pet projects in the district!"? No one. Give back tax money? De-regulate things? Send federal powers back to the states and local governments? Protect our freedoms? Assume personal responsibilities? You are joking, right? *Sighs* The American public has grown so complacent since the last recession it sickens me.

So what has the American institution of Forum, referendum, representation degraded to? Back room bribery for money the government has no rights too, pork programs, and elections based on the latest targets of Jay Leno and Dennis Miller. I just am not looking forward to this next election year at all.

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 03:24:12 AM
IP: 141.133.150.161

*Walks in from the wind and the rain, then looks at his hands.* Cool, I've got Demona's coloring now!

Sarge: So, you got a girlfried? Sounds kinda sadistic, if you ask me... but then again, it was probably a typo...

Sevarius Jr.: That X-Files/B5 stuff scares me... much...

Wilek: Humans get their breast fascination in with the mother's milk... *Dives for cover* And that link of yours... AAAGH! *Runs like a madman!*

Coyote: Out of curiosity (and lack of knowledge): What the heck is a Bando, anyway?

And on the humorous side: I Kept a game of Call of Cthulhu the other day... one of the players had a very good argument to leave the house they investigated... "The walls just BLED! I wanna leave NOW!"

Dragon/gargoyles mix: I'm not even gonna touch that with a fifty-foot pole...

Wilek: Oooh, what a weekend...

Qualis nox fuit illa, di daeque...

Wonder about that latin phrase... and Toku, please leave it be for a few days, see if someone else figures it out...

Well, until later, sibs...
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 03:23:39 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**RP HERE**

"I don't get it, Orion," Shauna frowns. "You say you loved this girl, then you say your love destroyed her. How? Why?" Orion sighs. "She was my best friend in those days. There were four of us that as you would say hung out together. Tanith, her younger brother Jeremy, a sophomore named Bert Thompson, and myself. You may not believe this, but our lives were not just limited to studying and the usual party scene. We were also quite active in as a campus midnight protest group. By day, we acted normal, but by night we did our best to go around removing all the flyers we could for the various prejudiced organizations that frequented the campus. That included street preachers, racists, socialists, you get the idea. We got on well together, even though we were each a devout member of a different religion. I was and still am Catholic, Jeremy was a Muslim, Bert was Methodist, and as I've already said Tanith was a Wiccan." "And you guys used to fight against negative influences in San Antonio?" Doug asks. "Yes," Orion nods. "We also indulged in the occasional prank, such as flattening the car tires of street preachers and hanging professors in effigy if they gave us too much difficult work. Our most flagrant prank was to wrap an entire fraternity house in whiskey-soaked toilet paper while all the boys inside were sleeping off a night of sin." "You were a prankster," Shap shakes his head. "Damn, I don't believe this." "Well, believe it," Orion grins. "As I said, back then I had yet to find true faith so I wasn't as much of a commandment follower as I am now. My friends were the ones who did most of it, I usually tried to talk them out of it and then joined in once I saw it could be fun. Tanith was usually the one who convinced me of that." "It sounds like you really liked her," Kitainia smiles. "I did," Orion nods. "For about six months we were wild and free, then in one night all our lives changed."

He closes his eyes, then continues. "It was the evening after we had wrapped up the fraternity house. The four of us were walking to enjoy ourselves at a local club. It was Sunday night, and of course we had all just come from our respective religious services. We had almost reached the club when all of a sudden we were surrounded by the members of the fraternity whose house we had ruined. With them was a horrific creature I did not recognize at first. It looked like a gargoyle, only its skin was covered with ridges and spikes. Its eyes burned with the black fires of Hell. It and the fraternity members attacked us before we could run or even ask them what was going on. Apparently they knew what we had done, and wanted revenge. The four of us fought bravely and in the end we drove away the fraternity members. Then the creature who had come with them threw a fireball at us, and we were heavily damaged. It laughed as we got up, asking us where our faith was now, what had happened to our sense of fun. Bert and Jeremy could not find the strength to face it and fell to their knees begging for mercy. It knocked them down with a barbed whip. Tanith and I tried to run, but it flew after us, and we were forced to turn and battle the creature. I prayed to God as it cut off our escape, brandishing the club I carried in those days and hoping for a miracle." He taps his mace. "I got one, to my surprise. My club became this mace, and I was enveloped in golden light. I heard God speaking to me in that instant, and was almost bowled over by the sound of his voice. He told me that I faced a cornugon, a devil from the pits of Hell that had corrupted the fraternity and now wanted to destroy me. With the strength of my faith, which I had called upon in my desperate hour, I now had the power to challenge and defeat it. Resolute in that knowledge, I turned to face the devil, only to find it had grabbed Tanith and was holding her prisoner in the coils of its whip." "Couldn't she fight it?" Erin asks. "She tried," Orion laments. "But all the power of her Wiccan charms were useless against such a fiend, and it triumphed. Yet it did not kill Tanith, only held her prisoner. It turned to me then, and I felt its voice in my mind. All my thoughts and emotions it stripped bare in a way that would drive a lesser man insane. Only because of my faith was I able to survive and charge at it." "And did you win?" Doug asks. Lathrop, Wilek, and the others look expectant as well. "I won," Orion looks downcast, "and yet I lost. For as I called upon the holy might I now felt bursting within my veins and struck down at the cornugon, it thrust Tanith between us as a human shield. I was aiming for the creature, but instead my attack hit her and dealt a mortal wound." The Ravens all look shocked, letting this sink in. Only Mist looks unaffected, while Jaden turns away and tries to hide a grin.

**THE TALE WILL CONCLUDE NEXT TIME, END RP FIRST HALF**

Greetings. Everyone looking forward to Thanksgiving? Kit and I are. We plan on having a good dinner with our families, seeing some good movies, and generally taking a much-needed vacation. We'll miss all of you during it, though, so won't be all good. :( Yes, that does mean this is my last post before the weekend (not Kit's, just mine, hers will be tomorrow). Hope you all have a good Thanksgiving time, we'll try to do the same. On to replies.

First, happy birthday to everyone who's recently had one, and congrats to those who are spending time with their significant others. Doesn't it feel wonderful to be together with them? <smiles, hugs Kit> Okay, enough mushy stuff. What else is there to comment on tonight?

Fanfic Progress: Inner Demons Part 2 coming along. I'll have the first five scenes done before I leave for Thanksgiving (taking a break from writing as part of the holiday, of course) and will do the rest of the story when I get back. It's going well so far, hope to make it as good as the first part was (whoever gave it five stars, I'd appreciate your feedback, same to anyone else who's read the tale and hasn't sent any yet).

Dags: Dusk Till Dawn 3 won't be out for rental till Janurary? Gee, that's a long wait! :) I guess I'll have to bear it. Hope the movie's worth the price when it comes out.

Pistoff: Clyde is Jon's grandson? Okay, that makes sense. :) Looking forward to the story, hope it comes out soon. Ari's got Sigourney beat for me too. <grin>

Jenna: Hope you did do what you intended (ie- read my fic) and if so, that you enjoyed. Re- Packing: <grins> I too have felt the pain of having to do that many times (mostly with nostalgia for the home I've left and muscle ache from carrying the boxes to the car). I saw the full Buffy ep by the way. Drop me your e-mail and I'll be happy to speed a synopsis your way.

Jesse Jackson: Every time I hear about this guy doing something, I want to scream. I cannot believe the attention this guy gets. He needs to stop wasting people's time and find himself a real job where he can actually do something positive and worthwhile. Somebody in the paper today wrote a letter saying that the main thing he was protesting at that high school was that the kids who started a fight were getting consequences for their negative actions. Frankly, I was inclined to agree (note- I do agree with Jackal about the kids' punishment being a little excessive, but that's beside the point since from what I hear Jackson's saying they shouldn't be punished at all). The only reason anyone even knows who Jesse Jackson is that he is vocal about making a name for himself protesting just about anything. And that is IMO not the right thing for a person to do with their life. Jackson may have gained the respect of many people because of what he does, but he'll have to do something that actually justly helps someone besides himself and not bask in the resulting glory before he can even get a smidgen of mine.

Macbeth as Falstaff: I can see that, though it does require making my image of Falstaff a little thinner and older. I think I like the idea too, especially when considering Kit's creativity demon. Wonder what other roles Macbeth's played in his lifetime and will have in the many years ahead. (I know he's been a Slayer Watcher in my ficverse in addition to a king, a pirate, an explorer, a Hunter, a professor, and many other things besides. Once Brumley bites the dust [possibly in the upcoming story "Comatose"], Macbeth may be Watching a Slayer again. :)

Weekend Movies: Found the new Bond flick too formulaic to enjoy fully, though I did like parts of it (such as the opening chase scene, Valentin's return, and John Cleese). Sleepy Hollow was excellent (see Kit's earlier post for full review), especially after the plot was revealed. If Mr. Walken had gotten some lines and they'd made the romance less corny and put in more sunshine (and also built realism by keeping in mind the eighth amendment to the US Constitution when they thought about having the American 1799 courts use those torture machines), it would have been even better. Thanks for the entertainment, Burton and co. Better luck next time, people affiliated with Bond. :)

Favorite Authors: I like Clive Cussler for action, Tom Clancy for inventive plots with good detail and dialogue, Stephen King and Greg Weisman for their excellent plots and characters, and Tad Williams, Christine Morgan, Leo Tolstoy, Spider Robinson, L. Ron Hubbard, Orson Scott Card, and RA Salvatore for all of the above (plus some good plot management and comedy bits). Lately I've also been enjoying the humorous and character-driven writings of PN Elrod. And of course David Eddings is on the list for both his satire and fantasy, which include all the above things and as Ironwolf mentioned, some damn fine writing too. (IMO, it's MUCH better than Robert Jordan's.) I have been inspired by many more, but none has played as much a role as these. Hope the ones who are still alive keep up the good work.

Richard Simmons: If this guy ever comes to my hometown and badmouths me, he better hope his thinness allows him to dodge my punches. :) There, that sums up my opinion of him pretty much. Only when the Brain impersonated Simmons did I like the guy.

Robby: John Galt was the hero of an Ayn Rand book called Atlas Shrugged. I found it okay but boring most of the time.

Jannie: Thank you very much for all the recent advice on sleeping at one's desk and relationships. I hope that in the future I will be able to keep it in mind should the need for it ever come up.

Sarge: Congrats on the girlfriend, and bringing up your grade (though I can't help but wonder how it fell so far so fast).

Weekend Shows: Enjoyed Pokemon Saturday and Futu-rama Sunday night. Batman Beyond, MIB, and Simpsons weren't that great but did have a few memorable moments. Didn't catch Y2K the Movie (from what I hear I didn't miss anything good, phew!). X-Files had a good portrait of a tortured soul but was otherwise boring. Hope next week's ep is better (though I may have trouble understanding parts of it having never watched Millenium when it was on).

Nightwalker: $ Jump into the RP whenever you like, though the next big battle won't be for a while. Hope to be working with you soon. <grin> $ My top ten favorite female characters (same criteria as yours) are Elisa, Demona, Sata, Angela, Willow, Buffy, Daria, Cordelia, Rinoa, and Aiden (from Christine's fanfic). Haven't seen Princess Mononoke yet but when I do some of the characters in it may just make the list. :)

A&M Disaster: Thanks for sharing our sorrow, Coyote, Jaden, and Wilek. Right now we're still feeling pained because of what happened, though we are edging into the stage when we want the media to stop talking about it and move on to something else.

**SPOILERS FOR NEW DARK AGES**

Nowhere to Hide- First of all, let me commend Shauntell for her excellent artwork in this one. The pic of Goliath and Demona showed great emotion, and the one of Javin and Iago really drove home their dialogue and helped me visualize the scene where Javin tells him off. :) The story itself was pretty good. I liked the well-coreographed action, the character development everyone got (especially what was done with Javin, Goliath, Iago, and Thersites), and the hints of what is lurking ahead in DA. I'm particularly interested to find out who the bandits' benefactor is, hope it's revealed by season's end. The developing romance between Diomedes and Fuchsia was done well too (hope to get a pic of them sometime). The only weakness in the story I found were that it had a little too much fighting and not as much character development as there could have been. But I guess that was okay. :) All in all, pretty good job. I give it a 9/10, thumbs up. Looking forward to next week's episode.

**SPOILERS END**

Dragon-Gargs Crossbreeds: Not sure what one would look like, I suppose it would depend on the parents' genes. I do have an idea what a human-dragon crossbreed in my ficverse would look like though (yes, I do have an idea for a character with this origin, though it will be a very long while before I get to put her in).

Shogun Raptor: <applauds in agreement with the anti-PC rant> Preach on, brother. Amen! :)

And I guess that's all for tonight. See you all again after Thanksgiving, have a good one. Bye!

**MORE RP**

In the LA penthouse, Matthew Perry is awakened by someone squeezing his jaw. His eyes pop open and he looks around, gasping in shock as he sees the unfamiliar surroundings. "That was one hell of a dream," the Friends star mutters. "I must have drank too much last night. Thank God it's over now." "Yoo hoo, loverboy!" someone calls and he turns to see Storm Eagle standing beside him dressed in her teddy and smiling. Perry sits up, looks her over with his eyes as she grins back at him, and returns the look. "Uh, listen," he says, "my head is really aching for some reason. I'm sorry, but I don't remember exactly who you are." Storm Eagle grins. "It's okay. You don't know me, but I've loved you forever. I had you brought here so we could be together as one." "Excuse me?" Perry asks, thinking to himself *this girl doesn't sound like my type!* "You heard me, Mattie," Storm answers. "You've just hit the jackpot, you've got the girl of your dreams. I am going to love you so much, treat you so good, and I know you'll do the same to me. I've been waiting for this moment all my life, and now it's here! The cutest most wonderful guy in the world is going to be mine!" "Uh," Perry gulps. "Sorry to disappoint you, babe, but I don't like girls like you." "What?" Storm Eagle drops her jaw, leaping off the bed in surprise. "But that can't be possible. We have to be together forever!" "No we don't," Perry snaps. "Why would I want to do something like that with anyone? I'm a confirmed bachelor!" "But on your show, you and Monica..." "Didn't you see all the episodes where my character showed a fear of committment?" "Yes, but I didn't think you really had that!" "I don't," Perry laughs. "I have a mindset totally against it. I like my freedom too much, and even if I was ready to settle down, it would certainly not be with a girl like you." "You don't like me?" "No," he shakes his head, "I don't. I don't even know what I'm doing here. I would never shack up with such a ditzy selfish whining bi&^h!" "You bleeping @$$hole!" Storm Eagle reacts to the insult, throwing a bolt of fire at Perry before she can stop herself. The actor screams in surprise, then agony as he is incinerated by the sudden burst of flame. Storm Eagle lowers her hands and gasps, falling to her knees and wailing at the top of her voice as she begins to bawl tears. "What have I done? What have I done? Ack, I had him! No!" She reaches for the phone and dials as while continuing to cry.

At the nearby Super Wal-Mart where she and the Dirty Laundry Gang are buying enough homemade bomb parts, chemicals, guns, ammunition, and supplies to start World War 3, Asil picks up her cell phone as it rings. "Hello?" "It's me, Storm. I just killed Matthew Perry!" "Excellent!" Asil laughs, barely able to restrain herself from whooping in joy. "For a moment I thought I would have to put up with that fink when I got back." "You don't understand! He was a jerk! He hated me! I lost my temper and blew him away! I only killed my only chance at true love!" "Oh, for the..." Asil mutters, glaring at several customers who are looking at her oddly. "You killed him, Storm," she snaps. "Accept it and calm down. There'll be another boy toy." "Not like that one!" "No, possibly there'll be someone better. Trust me. Look, I have to go now, and when I get back I want you to have forgotten him, alright? There was nothing worthwhile about that man!" "I..I guess you're right. Thank you, Asil. Bye." Asil shakes her head as the ditzy witch hangs up, muttering angrily about what she has to put up with. "What are you idiots looking at?" she yells at the gawking shoppers. They immediately turn and flee, not wanting to risk her wrath. Asil walks on past them, deciding to check out a special on Glock machine pistols in sporting goods.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 01:39:20 AM
IP: pool-207-205-146-197.dlls.grid.net

Hey everyone! Just checking in. I was really busy last week. Every time I thought I'd be able to come here and make a post something else pulls me away from the computer. I tried to make a post last night but I kept getting an "Internal server error" message. So I hope this works or I'll have spent all this time writting for no reason.
Well on to posts:

Wilek <Adams family, Demona/Jericho-Hmmmmmmm...Yeah I see it, though I've always thought of Broadway as a more of "Gordon" type.

Gargoyles/Sliders-I always thought that an episode like that would be worth taping.

Kitainia- A&M- That was very a terrible thing to happen, I was shocked when I heard about it on the news.

Memnoch the Devil- Great book but I'm with Kitainia, the ending wasn't the best.

Well I think that's all. Now if this post will go through I'll be happy and will be able to sleep well tonight.

See ya later!
(closes eyes and hits SUBMIT button)
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 01:11:32 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

SJ > LOL! Great idea! I'm not even acknowledging the man's existance right now, but if he calls again...Actually, my aunt just got her badge, and I was thinking of having her tell him he is in danger of being arrested for harrassment. The thing that disturbs me most about this is that the man has to be at 30 years older than me...oy.

Ack, that's horrible what happened at that party. Last week, some kids from my college did something pretty stupid, too (though not on that level). Has anyone read the comic book miniseries FINALS? Sorta reminded me of that.

Here goes...Last Wednesday night, at nine o'clock, a woman in the drive-thru at Dairy Queen saw, across the street in the Cenex station, 3 or 4 masked men with pistols, robbing the place. She had the drive-thru person call the cops, who arrived in minutes and surrounded the place quietly. One officer snuck in through the back door. He came upon the robbers, all standing around with their face masks pulled up off their faces, laughing and smoking. "FREEZE!" he shouted. The guys went white. One pulled his gun from his belt. "It's plastic!" he screamed. Apparently, these five moronic film students were shooting a scene for a movie. The idiots neglected to tell anyone (except the clerk at the counter) and did it DURING business hours. That one guy almost got shot in the process, as the officer thought he was pulling a real gun. Then they had the nerve to be outraged when the cops confiscated their video equipment. I. D. I. O. T. S.

Gaiman > I haven't read a lot of his stuff, but everything I've seen, I've adored. I have a limited edition of STARDUST, the one illustrated by Charles Vess. Breathtaking.
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:55:32 AM
IP: ctrts2-5.mrs.umn.edu

Mara> <<nine nine.. crazy number nine, any nemuber you can find it all comes back to nine...>> With the darkness of Six and the power of Nine, draw me a star that resembles divine...<blink> WTF was that? o_o'


I dunno what you were doing, Wilek... I was singing that old song about the nine times table from that old PBR show SquareONE. Anyone else remeber that show? It was my fave growing up... with a PAcman parody that did math problems and such.,,

Ahh PBS
Mara Cordova
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:37:37 AM
IP: spider-tp022.proxy.aol.com

Hey all, how's everyone doing? Sorry it's been a while since I've gotten on. I've just been preoccupied with school and other things. I also want to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!! to all the ones I've missed. Hopefully, I won't be so careless from now on.

SOROW: I can't describe how happy I am that you enjoyed your birthday. To tell you the truth, you are worth every bit of it. I just hope that next time, you know who won't be home so early:) love ya babe.
JOE BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:16:23 AM
IP: spider-tr041.proxy.aol.com

Well. Server timed out last night, did it? That plus today's repeated connection errors... <glares at DC> Ohhh, if I had the time...

Interesting weekend for movies. Army Of Darkness, The Addams Family, Demon Knight, Legend, and Small Soldiers, all on one almost right after another. O_o (I really shouldn't have watched the last two; now a colony of Gorgonite creativity demons and a child of darkness have set up camp in my mind and are attempting to build a new ficverse. Yes my current creativity divas are ticked.)

Kitainia> <<something terrible happened two nights ago. How many people here know of the rivalry between UT-Austin and Texas A&M? Well, I'm sure most of you know of the recent tragedy that happened at the latter college. They were holding their annual bonfire celebration to give the school good luck for their football game for us this week, and the ten-story bonfire they built collapsed. Twelve people were crushed to death under the huge flaming logs and at least thirty others were injured.>> :O Ack...<moment of silence> <<the Hex Rally we traditionally hold to make A&M lose the football game>> Hm...You can borrow that child of darkness I mentioned for next year's rally; he's into that kind of thing and I won't be needing him. ["I'll need a drop of blood or lock of hair from each of their more important players. You haven't lived until you've seen someone's flesh rot right off their bones. Hehehe."] <<Susan Powter: Don't know who this is, but if Pistoff doesn't like her I probably wouldn't either. Who is she, Pist, just so I can be sure?>> The phrase 'The Female Richard Simmons' comes to mind, except Powter isn't feminine at all. o_O Neither is she very perky. Energetic, but not perky. (Sometimes I expect her to snap and kill everyone within reach, which at least will make her entertaining to watch.) Basically, imagine the most obnoxious gym teacher you've ever met. Now imagine her on a caffeine overdose. O_O

Night Walker> <<I was hoping to get a second address where I'd put all of my gargoyles related stuff . Is Wyvrn-Web a good choice?>> The fact that the server went down right after this post should probably give you your answer. ;) <<the biggest peice of crap that has been shown on tv since the N'sync christmas video. Y2K:the movie.>> Oi, I've heard about that thing. Pathetic, what they'll do to get a cheap scare out of the audience. I can't wait to see how people will react when the year 2000 comes and nothing happens (well, except maybe a few new year's parties getting out of hand). ;)

Jewel> <<And didn't you say you were blond, too? Ohh, my... ;)>> And yes we do have more fun. ;P <<<jewel starts giggling. GIves up and starts laughing hysterically> I *like* you.>> <bows> Thank you, thank you very much! :D <<that 17-year-old microwaved her own baby.>> O_O' <shudders violently> <<Hey, while on the topic of writers and books we think people shoud read, anybody got any suggestions for good books?>> Um...With my tastes, probably any suggestions from me would be a bad idea...Although the Dr. Who novel War Of The Daleks is great, as are the Star Trek novels The Return (and its sequels), the Invasion series, and the Q Continuum trilogy, Q-Squared, the Star Wars novels Shadows Of The Empire and Darksaber, and the Babylon 5 novel The Touch Of Your Shadow, The Whisper Of Your Name. And I don't know if it counts, but the Star Wars comic book Dark Empire would probably qualify. (There are others, but I can't think of them offhand.)

Jessie> Mr. Lee> Um...ack. ACK. My suggestion is...do what SJ suggested. ^_^

Gside> <<Seiken Densetsu 3: Yeah, I've heard of it. I've finished it twice. A group has released a translation patch. So, I you don't care, you could get an emulator (zsnes), find the rom, and patch it. Check my link for the translation page. Or maybe I read you wrong, and you laready have it.>> I do actually. :) Great little game, that; not releasing it in the States was Square's second biggest mistake IMO (their first was defecting to Sony). <<when to I get to complain about my personal life here?>> Whenever there's something to complain about. ;) <<I don't feel like I know you enough yet.>> Trust me, friend, spend enough time in this particular asylum and you'll learn things you didn't want to know. :P

Coyote> <<Imagine Santa Claus' laugh. Now imagine how Santa Claus would laugh if he simultaneously sucked down a tank of helium and was kicked in the 'nads by Mrs. Claus. That should give you some idea.>> Heh...I think I'll find a WAV of this to use in psychological warfare. >:) The show is SlayersNEXT, right?

Mara> <<nine nine.. crazy number nine, any nemuber you can find it all comes back to nine...>> With the darkness of Six and the power of Nine, draw me a star that resembles divine...<blink> WTF was that? o_o'

Anne> Bad day> AAAACCCKKK!!! I'm glad Dad and Lindsey are alright...but 70 stories lost...eek...Hm...You know, the explosion of the TV and the loss of your files might be related...Have any other files on your computer been lost, or is it acting up?

Jannie> <<well, it's been one of the most miserable days of my life and I'm going to curl up in a fetal position and vegetate for a while. I really can't stand my school principal. >:|>> Oi...<hugZ> I've had days like that. Sometimes I think without this place I'd lose my mind. Oh, wait...

SJ> <<There must be either a lot of traffic at the various Garg sites, or Wyvern Web's servers must suck the big one.>> Both, I'd say; the things are up and down more often than interns. :P <<Here in D.C., some young folks (the same age as many of us) were having a party. Some genius in the basement decides to whip out the gun they brought with them and fire at the ceiling. It goes up, through the basement ceiling, through the first floor's...well, floor, and kills a kid. Bad enough? How about this--they didn't stop the party. They were literally stepping over the corpse to get their chips n' dip.>> :O Oh...dear...gawdz...<shudder> <<Kevin Smith, the writer/director/star of the movie, actually went incognito the night of the movie's premiere and joined the protesters outside the theatre, holding up a handmade sign declaring "Dogma is dog s***".>> Apparently he's even more insecure and perfectionistic about his work than I am. :P <<My music tastes are truly weird. For example, the last few weeks I'm into this sort of urban alternative type of thing, right? I'm listening to groups like Incubus and Methods of Mayhem. But then I'll listen to something like Tori Amos. Eclectic, huh? ;p>> Heh...don't know anything about those styles, but my tastes are a little odd...I'll go from something like The Omen soundtrack to the Blair Witch soundtrack to the Antz soundtrack to the Home Alone soundtrack to the La Nouba soundtrack, often in one day. O_o My tastes really depend on my mood, come to think of it... <<Oh, and give us better warning next time! My eyeballs nearly melted when I clicked on that link!!! ;)>> Boy do I know the feeling. I've still got scars from that stupid thing. :P <<the gay personals. You take out an ad for this jabronie, plant his phone number in there, along with the appropriate "I like it raw" message info. Believe me, when he gets his 800th call from Big Sal from the Pleasure Palace, he'll realize he's been burned pretty good.>> <blink> ROTFLMTO!!! >:D <<Finally, click on my name to see TEN ALL NEW POKEMON!!!!>> o_o Er...ack.

Neil Gaiman stuff> Interesting...I'll have to check these out. :)

Sarge> Blonde joke> LOL! <<I would like to draw comics with gargs in them.>> Oi...I wish I could draw; then I'd buy a scanner and stop bugging ppl for commissions. :P

Jackal> <<God yall, I'm bored..., I know, i know, you're thinking what am I suppose to do about that?? I don't know...., there's just nothing to do!>> Slow day, huh? I've had those. :/
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:12:38 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

God yall, I'm bored..., I know, i know, you're thinking what am I suppose to do about that?? I don't know...., there's just nothing to do! Yall email me or something please!!!
JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 10:22:31 PM
IP: spider-wb031.proxy.aol.com

Q > I agree, he's great and it's wonderful they've had the consistency ... but the fellow is seriously getting on in years. It's better that they retire him graciously with explanations and foreshadowing rather than have something tragic happen between or even during production.

Avalon Mists > two more days, people! ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 10:07:26 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Nifty HTML trick! For all you writers out there going nuts coding your fanfic into HTML, I just found this cool DHTML/style sheet trick that will automatically indent your paragraphs and set it so there won't be blank space in between paragraphs. All you have to do is add these lines in *before* the </HEAD> element:
<STYLE TYPE= "text/css">
P{ text-indent: 2em; margin:0; }
</STYLE>

Converting your fic into HTML is a lot easier, since all you have to do now is, if you use Word, select "Save as HTML," then open the file in a text editor, like WordPad or Simpletext, and just plug in that line of code. I just tested it out on two fic I had never bothered to code over, and *man* was it fast...

Books/authors: If you suggest someone, tyr and say what kind of genre they are, just to make it easier for people to find the books when they go looking... =)

jewel
Monday, November 22, 1999 09:59:50 PM
IP: spider-tm031.proxy.aol.com

BOOKS > Two great books that immediately come to mind are "Skywater" (by Melinda Popham) and "Grendel" (by John Gardner).

I won't get into detail here, since all anyone needs to do is go to amazon.com.

Scott Iskow - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Monday, November 22, 1999 09:46:26 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Jenna hey things will get better heck I only been in my place for two going on 3 months and I am still unpacking (I think when I wasn’t looking my books began to breed I bought 2 new bookshelves and I still don’t have enough). Of course I have 6 new boxes of satanic (i.e. gaming books) that the B1tch ex wife of Charles gave out. Heck at least she let me have them instead of throwing them away. Sorry to whom I may have offended it is that she is still pulling her drek (shadowrun cruse words why didn’t I think of it before).
New topic
Book list like the ideal ok, but I going to do an author list since I read so much.
1Nancy Collins. New twist on horror. Her world is populated with all kinds of supernatural critters and she has books out on Vampires Sonja Blue series, Werewolves forgot title sorry, and angels and demons again forgot title.

2Laruell Hamilton. The Anita Blake series. Supernatural critters exist and have rights under the government. Yet when a nasty crosses that line you send in the executioner. This series is a Romance/horror/detective novel rolled into one. The first book is Guilty Pleasures enjoy

3David Eddings. Fantasy and Society Satire. His Satire Losers and High hunt will make you think about the world around you. Fantasy to many to name. He really brings the characters alive. He makes them live and breathe some of the best work I have read

4Tom Dietz a Georgia writer who puts his home state in many of his books he deals with old Faye myths as they try and deal with the modern world

5Tom DeLint he is very good. imagine old Faye creatures that have adapted to the modern world! Gnomes living beneath the city, worlds within worlds hiding in our midst. Magic existing all around us but we just ignore what “can’t happen in a normal world”

well that’s my top five I hope all of you enjoy and mabey I have mentioned some one you have never heard of and will now check out.

Ironwolf - [cag16@bellsouth.net]
Monday, November 22, 1999 09:40:33 PM
IP: host-209-215-9-150.cha.bellsouth.net

SJ> that one reminds me of a similar Leno routine with newly released, politically inspired ones, desciptions follow:
Cokemon(Dratini's body, George Bush Jr's head)
Porkemon(blastoise with newt Gingrich's head)
Gropemon(Clinton/Mr.mime)
guiltemon(OJ Simpson/Charmander)
Nazimon(Pat Buchanan/charizard w/armband)
that's all I can think of, although there may or may not be the following:
REALLY Guiltemon (Duoduo/ John and Patsy Ramsey)

*short, potent rant ahead*
WHAT THE F**** IS GOING ON WITH SOCIETY AND SH**!!!?
if what you say isn't politically correct and can be misconstrued in any sort of way, it's now taboo or something! this PC B.S. is nothing more than censorship, the minority is trying to decide what the whole of society can see/hear/speak (I know this has been going on for awhile but recently it reared it's ugly head and went for me, head-on) I live in Miami and had to constantly hear about the cuban exile community trying to get the Los Van Van concert canclelled due to their involvment with Castro,so once again those who fled to avoid persecution attempt to persecute others, why? that's all I've got to say? and furthermore this whole PC-bull has just left me speechless
*end rant*
shogun raptor
Monday, November 22, 1999 09:00:46 PM
IP: user-38ldd8u.dialup.mindspring.com

Finnaly I'm done with part 3 to my Beast Wars fan-fic.....geexum...with new site renovations at the BW fan-fiction, It has taken me forever!...ughh and i have one more part to go!....unfortunetly I won't be able to get it in time for the annual fan-fiction awards....HEY maybe they should do that at Chris' fan-fiction site......an awards ceremony to see what fan-fic story was the best over the year according to the readers! cool....

anyway here's a blonde joke that my friend sent me....remind you I AM a blonde too....but I LOVVVEEE these jokes...

Eleven people were clinging precariously to a wildly swinging
rope suspended from a crumbling outcropping on Mount
Everest.

Ten were blonde, one was a brunette.

As a group they decided that one of the party should let go.
If that didn't happen the rope would break and everyone
would perish.

For an agonizing few moments no one volunteered.

Finally the brunette gave a truly touching speech saying she
would sacrifice herself to save the lives of the others.

All the blondes applauded.



Heh he he....If you didn't get it at first think about where the blondes were when they applauded.

Dark Ages- Hmm...haven't read any of the eps yet....been to envolved with homework, girlfriend, web-site, Role-playing....Ughhhhh major hemmerage.....

Anyway Thanksgiving vacation starts tommorow....((claps))...hopefully my thanksgiving dinner won't be as bad as last year....we went out to Shonney's and had an "all you can eat" buffet....with no turkey....ARGH! I love food but I like homemade stuff too!

Speaking of food I had a weird day today...I suppose this is a rant but....I found out that my girlfriend is in Montreal and i didn't know about it, plus I forgot a major lab that was duee today. Then in cooking class one of my partners took a specifically marked, 10oz. bag of spinich, took about four leaves, chopped them up and measured them in a cup and said it was about 14oz......after i explained to her what she did she banged her head against the table. The olive oil spilt, and my other partner thought it was a nice idea to squeeze the sponge over the floor.

art- What did I do with that Brooklyn Pic? UGH! I left it at school.....oh well I was trying to master the pen and ink today. I would like to draw comics with gargs in them. I tried to draw my character and it comes out good, then I tried lexington and that was good, then I tried Brooklyn. Even though I used red ink I still thought it was Whitbourne.....:P addicted i guess......

I finnaly found all my OLD garg pics! Whaddya know they were beside my art table the whole time!....I'm going to get them scanned even though they are all pretty bad. One of them is Brooklyn dressed as a cowboy....but he looked like a tourist wanna be texan dude....:P.....I also had him kissing this girl....but the girl looks like a potato. All other pictures are that of my own characters. Except one of Angela nd Broaway in a lake....their loinclothes...somewhere else...(You don't see anythin')

Well I better not be talking so much...I thought about another Top ten, but I have enough already

Sarge
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Monday, November 22, 1999 08:00:54 PM
IP: spider-tn023.proxy.aol.com

*walks in , dressed like Naga and carrying Hellmaster Phibrizo, who-is NOT SD since he's tiny to begin with*

Awwwww... who's my cutest lil Lord of Death? huh? who iddhe?
whoiddhe?

ANYWAY!


Mara: Lucky is the word, all right. Lucky that I was first through the
autograph line at that con ... Creation cons don't usually let ya do that with the guests. ;)
(Then again, it pays to live in the state that spawned the creators of the show, I guess ...)


All I got to say is LUcKY !!!!


Sigh.. Husdon Leick... Maybe if i'm an extra good girl Santa will get me Xena tapes for Christmas...

Then again... me... good?
Mara Cordova - [MCordova99@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 07:19:26 PM
IP: spider-wk084.proxy.aol.com

Jewel: That collection of Gaiman's short stories, poems, essays, and other miscellaneous bits is called "Smoke and Mirrors". He had a previous collection, called "Angels and Visitations", but the majority (perhaps even the entirety) of that work is reprinted in Smoke and Mirrors.

As for recommended reading--I think that's a great idea. I have tons of books I'd recommend to others:
Gaiman's definitely in there. I'd also say that anything by Harlan Ellison is a must read, as the man is a pure genius.
I'm into horror, so I'd also recommend Clive Barker, especially his "Books of Blood" (That's volumes 1-3, and the "un-numbered" volumes "In the Flesh", "The Inhuman Condition", and "Cabal"). The Damnation Game is also right up there with some of the best horror of the eighties. And, if you want more dark fantasy and less horror, try his "Weaveworld" or "Galilee".
Some good sci-fi out there right now is Tad William's "Otherland" series. 3 of the promised 4 volumes are already out there: "City of Golden Shadow", "River of Blue Fire", and "Mountain of Black Glass". It alternates between semi-cyber punk sci-fi and dark fantasy (he has a pretty nasty version of the Wizard of Oz in "River", and the Twins are pure evil!).
Finally, for those who of you who may not have liked the movie, you may want to read Chuck Palahiuk's underground classic "Fight Club". It's quite good, and has quite a bit more than the movie in terms of characterization and how Project Mayhem evolves. It's almost an apocalyptic love story. :)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 07:06:28 PM
IP: 207-172-121-209.s209.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

SJ: Oooh, you have an *evil* streak in you, man. But Mr. Lee deserves what he gets. Jessie, I say "Go for it, chica!"
Tori would be a good Del, espeically since Gaiman thinks she's "more Delirium than Tori." And Tori's live stuff seriously kicks ass; I only wish I could have gotten to go see her concert with Alannis Morissette.
<g> And as for "eclectic tastes"--you're talking to the chick who once bought the opera Rigoletto, a Puffy CD (I *really* wanted a copy of "All About the Benjamins" and couldn't find the effing single anywhere and hadn't discovered the joys of mp3s), and the Squirrel Nut Zippers all at the same time. Talk about your odd looks from the sales clerk... As for the Indigo Girls, they're normally stuck in Folk Song Hell, but like I said, they went for a radical departure this time. Head over to Borders or Barnes and Nobles and listen to the first track of their CD "Come On Now Social." I'm not much of a fan myself, but I love this CD. Although, for a weird listening experience, check out the version of "Jesus Christ Superstar" they did. One is Jesus, the other is Mary Magdelene. The creepy thing is that it's the best version out there...
Those kids in DC are really really sick, but you know, nothing surprises me after that 17-year-old microwaved her own baby.

Neil Gaiman: Wilek, anyone else who hasn't read anything by him: Go right out and buy a copy of "Preludes and Nocturns" (the first Sandman book) or his book of short stories (I forgot the name and left the book at my dad's house by accident).
Hey, while on the topic of writers and books we think people shoud read, anybody got any suggestions for good books? I think we've all got such varied tastes that we've all read amazing stuff not everyone might have read. Create a recommended reading list or something (God, that smacks of school...) Books we've loved that we want to convince everyone and their siblings to crack open...

jewel - [Jewel.Faulkner@alumnae.brynmawr.edu]
Monday, November 22, 1999 06:22:53 PM
IP: spider-tp024.proxy.aol.com

SEVARIUS JR. - That story you told about Kevin Smith reminds me of one about George Bernard Shaw. At the end of one of his plays, everybody in the audience was applauding except for one man, who called out to Shaw, "Come on, you know that the whole thing is bunk!" Shaw got up and replied to the critic, "I quite agree with you, my friend, but what are the two of us against such a great majority?"
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, November 22, 1999 06:16:48 PM
IP: 216.87.41.10.dialup-stl.primary.net

Good to see the CR FINALLY up and active....There must be either a lot of traffic at the various Garg sites, or Wyvern Web's servers must suck the big one.

Say, wanna hear something really disturbing, but unfortunately it didn't surprise me one bit? Here in D.C., some young folks (the same age as many of us) were having a party. Some genius in the basement decides to whip out the gun they brought with them and fire at the ceiling. It goes up, through the basement ceiling, through the first floor's...well, floor, and kills a kid. Bad enough? How about this--they didn't stop the party. They were literally stepping over the corpse to get their chips n' dip. Like I said, the sad thing--this does not shock me like it should. [begin sarcasm] Everyone knows how much of a downer a dead body can be, right? So why stop the party just cause young Johnny's bleeding all over the carpet?

Cool Dogma tidbit: Here's something I found amusing. Kevin Smith, the writer/director/star of the movie, actually went incognito the night of the movie's premiere and joined the protesters outside the theatre, holding up a handmade sign declaring "Dogma is dog s***". I think that's so cool, and a great way to handle the negative press; what better way to handle the critics than to join them? (and for the record, Smith was very respectful of the protesters, and while he disagreed with their opinions of the film, he valued what they had to say)

Jewel: Well, perhaps in my perfect little world Tori would be Delirium. She's frankly a little too old to play Death, too, I think. I still love her though. God, her music is unbelievable. Out of all the crap that exists out there today, her work has always touched me. Her live work is very good, too, huh? :)
Can't say I'd much go for the Indigo Girls, though. Not my taste. My music tastes are truly weird. For example, the last few weeks I'm into this sort of urban alternative type of thing, right? I'm listening to groups like Incubus and Methods of Mayhem. But then I'll listen to something like Tori Amos. Eclectic, huh? ;p

Wilek: You haven't jumped on the Gaiman bandwagon yet? You don't know what you're missing, lad. Go right now to your library and check out the following items: GOOD OMENS (cowritten with Terry Pratchett), NEVERWHERE, and STARDUST. Or heck, go buy them without reading them first, you won't be disappointed. That's just his prose, though. You gotta check out the Sandman series. If you want, you can read that stuff too before you buy it. Check out any large Borders or Barnes and Noble, they usually have a comic section with Sandman stuff there. But you should definitely give it a read--I consider it the best comic book ever done, period.
Oh, and give us better warning next time! My eyeballs nearly melted when I clicked on that link!!! ;)

Jessie: That landlord really sounds like an @$$hole, and he must have one big set of brass cajones to treat your friend like he did and dare ask you out. You should really screw with him, though. Next time he calls you, tell him to leave you alone. He doesn't, here's what you do--get his number off caller ID (or, I'm assuming he left it for you on your answering machine?). Then, you get a city paper (not the big "regular" newpaper like the New York Times, the actual paper for the city--for instance, here in D.C. we have the City Paper, instead of the "Washington Post" or the "Washington Times"). Those things usually have ads in the back for all sorts of stuff--including the gay personals. You take out an ad for this jabronie, plant his phone number in there, along with the appropriate "I like it raw" message info. Believe me, when he gets his 800th call from Big Sal from the Pleasure Palace, he'll realize he's been burned pretty good.
This actually works. I've seen it done before--believe me, it's no fun to the victim. The sickest perverts alive will call him, and he *will* learn his lesson.

Finally, click on my name to see TEN ALL NEW POKEMON!!!! Next works!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 05:26:47 PM
IP: 207-172-121-209.s209.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Jenna> *hugs* it will get better - remember, "this too shall pass" and before you know it, you'll be hanging your stockings and decorating your Christmas tree in your new apartment! :)

Zath> I heard back from my brother on what the legalities are concerning being a renter, etc. He said the following:
"A renter can withhold rents ONLY if the habitat is a danger to health
(not just nauseating) or major personal property damage is occuring AFTER
notification to the landlord. Otherwise, you move.
In Texas, renter's rights are covered under Vernon's Rules of Real Estate
Codes and Statutes.
Basically, if you are having a problem.....you move. "

I don't know if this helps you any O.O

well, it's been one of the most miserable days of my life and I'm going to curl up in a fetal position and vegetate for a while. I really can't stand my school principal. >:|

Jannie
Monday, November 22, 1999 04:16:54 PM
IP: 168.171.197.3

On a lighter note--

I found this on the web, it's every pokemon movie that I know of- you'll need quicktime to see em

Enjoy!
jenna - [<<<<<<<Pokemon Movies!!!]
Monday, November 22, 1999 04:01:57 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

On a personal note- the car is acting up big time. I hope we'll be able to go down to see my folks for Thanksgiving. Things are ..well tense right now at home. The boxes, ect. just make everything seem twice as cramped as they are. I hope this ends soon......
jenna
Monday, November 22, 1999 02:43:29 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

I meant below below, BELOW-one made by me the 1st time! AHHH! Anybody else having a bad day?
Anne
Monday, November 22, 1999 02:32:13 PM
IP: 209-130-164-104.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Ack! Ah...sorry...really bad typo--meant fanfic, not the above (typing's been bad lately). Sorry!
Anonymous
Monday, November 22, 1999 02:30:53 PM
IP: 209-130-164-104.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Hi everyone!

So far, no weird things...except for my sister and Dad went head-over-heels down the stairs and I can't find my fanfic files to send to the distrubator or whatever they're called!!!! Dad and Lindsay are fine, Lindsay was really shooken up, Dad went wide-eyed because he wasn't expecting anything at all like that--who would (besides us)? Don't think ghosts are living in our home, because we've been living in this house for five years and we were the first people to build on the specific spot of land, so there shouldn't be any ghosts or weird mind thingy we read in Stephen King's "Carrie". I don't know who said it, but I am indebted to them because they said that I should use the explosion of the TV in a fanfic, and I'm planning to do that, but it didn't even occur to me until they said something--so thanks ^_^

Well, since all my files have either disappeared or have been erased, I'll have to start from scratch :*( Dangit--I had seventy stories worth too!

Well, off to be do my fanfuc so everybody have a nice day :)

Anne
MN, USA
Monday, November 22, 1999 02:28:25 PM
IP: 209-130-164-104.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Dunno how much time I have, so I'll try to get the major things out of the way first.

Review w/spoilers for The World Is Not Enough.

I thought it was Brosnan's best Bond yet, but then I thought Goldeneye was just a bit above so-so, and I really didn't like Tomorrow Never Dies (Except for the bits with Michelle Yo (sp)

I think the action has gotten to be too big a part of the recent Bond films, sort of like the Roger Moore films which all had to include at least one Smokey and the Bandit-style chase. There are too many scenes of Bond causing property destruction, not counter-balanced with enough scenes of Bond simply being cool. (Playing baccarat, drinking Martinis, and engaging in witty reparte)

I really really hope that Q doesn't leave, and if he does, I *don't* want John Cleese to replace him. He's just not right to be Q. He's too famous for too many other things. Desmond Llewelyn was Q, and no one else.

Robert Carlyle turns in a nice performance as Renard, who seems at times more tragic then evil.

But the scene-stealer is Robbie Coltraine, who I hope they didn't kill off permanently.

Overall, I did enjoy The World Is Not Enough, despite a lack of enspired gadjetry, actual things for the female leads to do, and another almost total disuse of Bond's car.

At least the title song was better this time, and they remembered to play the theme music all the way through the action sequences. (One of my major complaints with Goldeneye)

Aaron Bob says 3.25/5 skulls, wait for a matinee.

End that review.

More later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, November 22, 1999 02:02:46 PM
IP: ppp-19.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Dang ... took my car to get fixed and I miss top ten. Oh well ...

Mara: Lucky is the word, all right. Lucky that I was first through the autograph line at that con ... Creation cons don't usually let ya do that with the guests. ;)
(Then again, it pays to live in the state that spawned the creators of the show, I guess ...)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, November 22, 1999 01:29:30 PM
IP: zzz-209252248213.splitrock.net

Real post later, just had to grab my second-ever top ten!

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, November 22, 1999 01:20:13 PM
IP: ppp-19.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Oh hohohohohohohoh OH hohohohohohoh nine nine.. crazy number nine, any nemuber you can find it all comes back to nine...
Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 22, 1999 01:05:53 PM
IP: spider-tj061.proxy.aol.com

Spacebabie- your lucky number seven, Chicka!
jenna
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:59:42 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Am I lucky number 7 or is the CR down?
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:50:38 PM
IP: ts001d33.orl-fl.concentric.net

Sixth!
Tim P.
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:45:52 PM
IP: bn706-01.wsc.edu

i don't know i think it would depend on the gargolye. a male gargoyle and a female dragon well that could if umm he was up to it? *ducks the rotten fruit yea that was bad* Now a male dragon and a female gargoyle would be more tricky but i wonder what the kids would look like? the brithing would be easier since both are egg laying species hmmm
well back to work
Ironwolf
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:43:26 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-91.cha.bellsouth.net

topten yahooo
ironwolf
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:33:57 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-91.cha.bellsouth.net

4th
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
NJ
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:28:58 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Third!!!
jenna
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:27:19 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Second! (third at the least!)
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:26:25 PM
IP: m163.ieway.com

FIRST! or second if I'm not fast enough ....
Ordell
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:24:30 PM
IP: ppp-106.ode.cableone.net

Looks like we're back in buisness...

Some battles are harder than others.

"Nowhere to Hide"

Written by Shauntell Holm and Jonathan Cotleur

Illustrations by Shauntell Holm and computer coloring by Tony "Marlos" Teakles
Robby
Monday, November 22, 1999 12:23:39 PM
IP: spider-tn042.proxy.aol.com