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WHAT "demented little plan"?! All I wanted to do was vent a little and then move on with my life. I never asked anybody else to jump into it. And I never mentioned any names because I didn't intend to start a smear campaign or anything of the sort. I never planned to keep dragging this on.

So now I'm a freak? That's a good one, coming from the head of the Jericho fan club. Okay, fine. I'm a freak, I'm a stalker, yeah, right, whatever.

Just understand one thing, Crzy--by posting my email to you, which was private and meant for your eyes only, the only one you've made to appear demented is yourself. Oh, and your comment that you felt threatened by me--I don't even know where the hell you live. Chances are, wherever you live, it's hundreds or even thousands of miles where I live. Only a special kind of idiot would feel threatened by a bit of venting from someone who doesn't even live near enough to do anything or have the resources to travel to wherever it is you live.

So, you say you didn't lead me on, and I say you did. What the hell's the point anymore?

People, I've had a lot of bad crap going on in my life during the past few weeks, a lot of it I haven't even talked about in here, and it's all just building up to the bursting point. So screw this. I don't need this crap.

I'm sorry for all the fuss. I never intended for any of this to happen. All it was, was just a little venting of frustration, and now I'm being demonized and called a freak. Well, I'd rather be a freak and keep my self respect if being "normal" means being like Crzy.

I need to take a break for a while, before I really go nuts. Just a few days, till things calm down, till I can get things sorted out. I'll be back sooner or later....
Pistoff
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 04:33:00 AM
IP: wire-6.koalas.com

Weird things just in at my gaming store:

… We are GURPS … you will be assimilated … resistance … is futile … we will take your systematic differences and uniqueness … and dilute it until it is like our own …

O.o Steve Jackson strikes again, as White Wolf Publishing's "Mage: The Ascension", "Vampire: The Masquerade", and "Werewolf: The Apocalypse" join the Generic Universal Role-Playing System. I was kind of weirded out at first. Everything about seeing "Mage" in GURPS screamed, "NO!". As soon as I'd recovered my stomach, I decided something this sick and wrong would HAVE to be a good idea, so I bought it. I'm officially wasting yet more store credit from my days judging Magic Tournaments on RPG books I may very well never use, and yet, being able to put Werewolf, Mage, and Vampire characters in a more compatible system with one another, and with many other games … it is very tempting. It proposes the idea of integrating a variety of World of Darkness themes and designs on comparable power levels with other games. All in all, it might serve well to curb power gaming and increase the role playing value of the World of Darkness. It is a great setting, and I hate seeing it thrown to the wolves as players try just to accumulate statistics rather than influence their place in the world. Here's to hope, ladies and gentlemen. ;)

Wow … final projects coming due and I haven't done anything interesting other than make one tough ruling at RI state championships for Magic: The Gathering, where I was Head Judge. *shakes his head* Got to find something useful to do.

Small demon pops up and chitters, "Yeah, like your TERM PROJECTS!"

*Kai plays wack-a-mole with demon for a few minutes*

Anyway … I'll get it all done, but it has kept me from seeing any movies and watching anything more stimulating than pro-wrestling. My life is in the doldrums. Maybe I'm saving my projects for a fury of activity … *glances at Blue Caeru* Or maybe someone loaned me one of her demons? *L*

*glances down to posts*

Ack … that project for economics is looking better and better …

Laters,

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 03:37:52 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Okay... I have had enough of the demented FREAK named Pistoff.... here is the story folks.

Yes, I am the one you have all been calling a bitch... thank you all for not being blind followers ::rolls her eyes:: As most of you know... I once asked Pistoff to marry me after he said something I wholeheartedly agreed with here in the TGS chat room. As most of the SANE people here figured out, my proposal was in NO WAY serious. I flirtingly called him "My love" a few times... Now... Mind you... I don't even know Pistoff's real NAME for heaven's sake!! How delusional does one have to be to think that someone would actually MARRY someone they have never even spoken to!?! I mean, we have all heard the rumors about him... but I was willing to put that aside and be his friend... apparently that was a HUGE mistake on my part.

Christine, my best friend, informed me that Pistoff was taking the whole thing WAY too seriously. I asked her to remind him I am VERY MUCH MARRIED... and no one short of Greg Weisman himself can come between my husband and I. :P

Keep in mind, I in no way contacted Pistoff other than what was seen in this comment room. I never spoke to him on the phone, ICQ, e-mail or any other form of communication. From what ALL OF YOU WITNESSED here... is the only contact I have had from him.

Now, imagine my suprise to find out that he thought I was in love with him and wanted to have a relationship with him! And, God forbid, have SEX with him! My friends, this was not a malicious act on my part, but a demented dream on Pistoff's part. I in no way led him to believe I was serious.

Then, I got the letter. Yes, Pistoff wrote me to tell me off about how cruel and cold-hearted I was. Actually, let me just air this ALL out and post the letter here for all to see. That way, Mr. Pistoff (whatever his name is) cannot lie about the contents of the letter.

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PISTOFF'S LETTER TO ME:

Subj: something I need to straighten out...
Date: 11/30/1999 10:00:48 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: phred@koalas.com (Fred Kerns)
To: demonacrzy@aol.com

Jennifer, there's something I need to get out of my system.

When this whole thing started, when you asked me to marry you, I was sure you were just kidding around. I said as much in a post in the CR, and you acted as if you were serious and was hurt because I suggested otherwise, so, like a perfect idiot, I began to think it might be true. I began to hope that there really was a woman out there who could actually be interested in me.

Well, just a couple of days ago, I found out you were married. And I realized that this, to you, was nothing more than a big joke. Now, a little flirting doesn't bother me. A little goofing around is harmless. But your continual reference to me as "my love" started to convince me that there might actually be something here. Which makes the discovery that it was all a joke even more hurtful.

Perhaps I need to explain a bit of my personal history to get you to understand my point of view. You see, the last serious girlfriend I had moved out of town eight years ago, and we lost track of each other. Since then, the only woman who showed any interest in me turned out to be a psycho who disappeared in the middle of the night and left a friend of mine with a $700 phone-sex bill. That was four years ago. In the last few months, I've had my heart broken over and over and over. I met a woman who seemed to like me and seemed to want to start a relationship--then I made the mistake of sending her a photo of me, and she immediately lost interest and told me that she had fallen for some "hunk" ex-marine. After that, I thought I'd started to make a connection with someone else--and she pulled the carpet out from under me by telling me that she fell in love with some guy she met on the internet, and then she moved 3,000 miles to marry him.

And then you start in with the "my love" routine. As I said, I thought it was a joke at first. But you kept it up and I started to believe it. I thought, "Finally, maybe this one will work out." Then I find out that you're married, and the whole thing was just a joke.

I hope you're satisfied. Once again, my heart is broken. Not only that, but now I feel like a complete idiot. Yeah, you really put one over on me. Ha ha. I hope you're proud of yourself.

To you, this may seem harmless. But I want you to understand one thing. I do NOT like being toyed with, manipulated, or tricked. ESPECIALLY in a matter such as this. I DESPISE pranksters. People who get their jollies by tormenting others, by playing with them and breaking their hearts. I taught Roy Sato this lesson once, when he played an infantile prank in the S8 CR--and yes, I'm perfectly willing to take on "big guns" like Sato. I'm sure you saw that when I went off about the Jericho issue. Hell, I'd even go after Greg Weisman if he gave me a reason. So don't think for one second that I'll let your behavior slide just because it was only a joke.

What you did crushed me and filled me with rage. I couldn't sleep last night, and I couldn't stop thinking about this all day today. People like you disgust me. People like you make me sick. You don't give a shit about anybody's feelings, all you care about is the cheap laugh you get at your victims' expense. Well, I hope this was worth it for you. I hope you got a real good chuckle out of this.

*sigh* I just wonder if your husband is even aware of what a cold-hearted, mean-spirited asshole he married.

I doubt any of this will get through to you. I've met so many people like you already...you'll probably come back with something like, "I can't believe you didn't know it was a joke!" Well, if that's the case, don't even bother responding to this. If you're planning to send me anything other than a genuine, heartfelt apology, just don't say ANYTHING to me. And if you just "foo-foo" me off, that'll only bring the full power of my wrath down on you.

What you did to me is the surest way to make me an enemy for life. Now that I know the truth about you, I don't know why I was ever interested in the first place. Hell, even if we did get together and have sex, you'd probably scream Jericho's name. So, now, I honestly don't give a wet shit whether I ever hear from you again or not.

I hope you enjoyed your little game.

Goodbye.

~ EXTREMELY Pistoff
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After showing this letter to my husband and a few of my very close friends, we came to the conclusion that responding to it in any way, shape or form would just spawn more threats against me from Mr. Pistoff. It was best to leave him to his own sad little world. I truly pity him.

He just couldn't leave it at that. He had to start it up here, in a public forum. I was very upset and pondered calling the authorities about him due to the fact that he very blatantly THREATENED me with his "wrath". But once again, I thought it best to just hope he would get it out of his system and be done with it. Then I watch as all of you fall for his demented little plan.

PISTOFF, I hope you are happy now. Because I am definitely not. I really feel sorry for you.

and for the record, I asked my husband if he was aware that I am a "cold-hearted, mean-spirited asshole" He is most definately aware, thankyouverymuch... and that is JUST how he likes me.
CrzyDemona
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 02:37:24 AM
IP: 209.150.94.79

Whoo, spent a lot of time cramming for the first of several midterms...this one due tomorrow. Wish me luck folks, I'm a little shaky on it.

Pistoff's woman friend who's surname surely must rhyme with the word "witch": This reminds me a bit Sam Kinison did on one of his live/televised shows way back when. He got a guy from the audience to give him the phone number to a gal that had done him wrong, then he called her up live on the stage.
Sam: Hi, is this Kathie?
Kathie: Yes. Who is this?
S: This is Sam Kinison, down at the so-and-so Theatre. Let me ask you--do you remember a guy named Kevin?
K: Who?
S: Kevin.
K, rather reluctantly: Oh, uh...yeah, I remember Kevin.
S: Well, Kathie, today's your lucky day.
K: Really?
S: Yeah, we were looking for <<expletve deleted>> who were dating one guy and <<expletive deleted>> his brother at the same time. YOU WON!!! I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL, <<expletive>>!!!
Point of the story--some people are just @$$holes who get off on screwing around with other people for no good reason. Sometimes there is no other side of the story.

Green Baron: I too hope that Hilary is forced to answer to her Palestine comments. What the holy hell was she thinking? A Palestine state? Yeah, Hil, that's brilliant. Let's take the Israel people, the only truly democratic, stable ally we have in the hostile Middle East, and royally screw them over for a group of violent fanatics. Wonderful, where do we sign up! I mean, Arafat is really just a misunderstood, peace-loving leader, isn't he? She's put her foot way in her mouth with that one. I don't see how she can comfortably explain that one to the Jewish population of New York, but I'm sure her friends like James "Elmer Fudd" Carvell will try to bail her out.

Jewel: Good news--Terry Gilliam will direct and write the movie adaption of "Good Omens"! I'm pretty pleased with this, actually. Gaiman himself said that he has little to no involvement with the film (as far as writing and all goes), but if he's pleased with Terry (and he is), I'm pleased with Terry.
About Alan Keyes....well, I can't say I disagree with his anti-abortion stance, as I'm very conservative in my views of abortion (in other words, I'm totally against it. My views on the matter are complicated). I disagree with his stance on homosexuality. Religiously, I must admitt that I do not necessarily approve of it, but I am in no way anti-homosexual in the least. I think that the conservative party as a whole needs to seriously reform some of their stances on the issue as a whole; a few are far too extreme even for my own fairly firm conservative views.

Those Darn Frats (or, How I Got Hit In The Genitals With a BB): I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not social enough, maybe because I don't like alcohol, or maybe because I have an IQ over 70, but frats never appealed to me. All that hazing, and for what? To just hang out and booze up with sorority babes? I can do that on my own time if I so choose, thank you, and my genitals shall remain safely distanced from any and all forms of projectile weaponry. Maybe it's my own somewhat tainted views of frat life--my own college has some truly subhuman lifeforms in their frats...

Marc: I agree about Lucas, although you must be careful which forums you speak such blasphemy, as there are plenty of those out there who feel Lucas is still god of the Star Wars universe. My opinion--the man needs serious help, all around. Directing, writing, etc. TPM was a huge disappointment for me, largely due to the (lack of) plot and characterization. At this point, some of the numerous Lucas-approved SW books (like the stuff by Kevin J. Anderson, etc.) are better written and more exciting. I wish he'd listen to the naysayers a bit, but he's appropriately deaf to their cries. Fine, give us more Jar Jar, but be prepared for the eventual backlash. It just shames me to see a usually quality product go to rubbish.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 12:46:47 AM
IP: 207-172-53-80.s80.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

**RP HERE**

In a classy uptown bar in Los Angeles, Leonardo diCaprio and the five members of his entourage of good-looking losers are sitting at a table drinking beer and talking like frat boys. "Yo guys," one of the latter is saying, "I met this classy babe uptown." "Cool, man," another grins. "Did you do her?" "Yeah, of course I did her! Then I dumped her afterwards! Hehehheh." "Great! Want another beer?" The newest member of the group smiles. "Want to know what I did?" They all look at him and shout, "No!" "Well, I'll tell you anyway!" he snaps. "This girl I knew yesterday, before I joined this bunch, her name was Virginia..." "What the hell kind of a name is that?" one of the others asks. "I don't know," Newbie shrugs. "Some city out east, I think. Anyway, we've been friends for years and just the other day she told me she loved me. I told her I wasn't ready for a relationship. Broke her heart." He snickers and grins. "Bravo," Leo declares. "But of course I have a better story. You guys know the chick in my latest movie?" "Yeah," the handsomest and stupidest entourage member says. "I got a date with her later tonight." Leo frowns but ignores the comment. "Well, anyway, I made eighty million on this movie, you know, and I'm already slated to appear in several more. Thank God most of them have scripts where I play characters more intelligent than I am." "Here here!" the entourage cheers. "What about the girl?" Newbie asks. "Well," Leo says, "get this, I'm taking her out in my car last night and..." "And..." the entourage prompts.

Before Leo can answer, the front window of the restaurant explodes in a spray of glass and gunfire that sends most of the restaurant's patrons running in fear for their life. Leo and the gang hop up to see what's happening, and immediately drop their mutual jaws as they see Asil walking in through the smoke. "Cool!" the rudest of the group shouts. "It's a succubus!" "A what?" Handsome Dummy asks. "They're sex demons from Hell, idiot," the most egotistical of the group snaps. "Hey cool!" HD grins. Leo frowns as Asil walks toward him. "Uh, if you want an autograph, talk to my lawyer." He indicates the most drunk member of the entourage, who is nearly passed out on his feet. "I don't want an autograph," Asil smiles lewdly. "I want you." "Take a number, lady!" Rude Guy chuckles. "Good one, man!" Newbie grins, patting him on the back. "I'm currently committed," Leo says, looking away from Asil and examining his nails. "However, you are very pretty and seem to have an interesting personality, so maybe in a day or two when I'm tired of my current girlfriend..." "Oh shut up!" Asil roars, and then zaps him with her evil-looking black ray gun. Leo screams in pain and falls over unconscious. "Hey man," HD gasps. "She shot Leo!" "Let's get out of here!" Newbie screams. "You'll hear from me later!" the lawyer shouts as they drag him out. "I hope this was worth it," Asil mutters, bending to pick up Leo's body. With that she hoists the young star on her shoulder and carries him out to her waiting Lexus, muttering as she realizes Leo needs to lose weight.

**COMING SOON- WILL LEO LIKE ASIL? FOR NOW END RP**

Hi everyone. Doug here, as I'm sure you know from the color. :) Well, exams are progressing. I have my first of the three this week tomorrow and hope I'm ready for it, two of the three major papers I've been working on are done, and right now I'm feeling great. That's the good news. The bad news is this week's kind of getting to me. Not because of the exams but because of holiday programming. <angry mutter> Why is it that December has become a month of reruns and lousy episodes? True, most of the cartoons this weekend were great, X-Files last night was the second best ep so far this season (IMO at least, first was the one with Lance Henriksen), and there's some good Action coming up. But other than that the TV programming this month pretty much stinks. They had a rerun of Ally McBeal last night and next week's episode looks more stupid than interesting (though I'll probably be watching it anyway just to see if they advance the characters' plots), Sunday's eps of Simpsons and Futu-rama were reruns (and pretty stupid ones at that), there don't seem to be any new episodes of Early Edition coming up in the near future, there's no Now and Again this week and to top it all they pre-empted Buffy and Angel on WB tonight for a basketball game. A basketball game! <rabid redneck look> Why doesn't somebody just shoot these programming executives in the head? Why do they allow this kind of monkeying with great shows? <sighs> Thanks to it, I have been unable to enjoy myself watching television in the past few days and the rest of the week ahead isn't looking good either. :( Hope this ends soon, and glad there are some things I can at least enjoy (like the aforementioned Action and X-Files). The bad movie scene this weekend, though, combined with the anger and frustration already caused by exams, may make this week a major downer as far as my opinion of the media goes. Hope I can bear it...Oh what the heck, I probably will. It's the exams I should be concerned about. :) Send me good luck, people, I'll do the same to you. On with replies.

Fanfic Progress: Inner Demons 2 is coming along, I'm currently one scene away from Johnny's funeral and slowly but surely approaching the big battle scene that must end it all. 56 pages and counting. :) I'll probably have it done before the twentieth (when my Christmas writing break begins) especially since exams are over the 14th. Hope you all can wait that long (and that I get more feedback appreciating the product this time, since I'm doing my best to really give this story my all).

G2K: Yes, Kit and I probably won't be able to go. :( At least, it doesn't look that way right now. Our money situation, and Orlando's hotel room prices, may change between then and now. If so, we can all celebrate the Fourth Annual Gathering together, and it will be fine. If not, well, Kit and I will probably still be there in spirit. :) Mara, we are still going to contribute to your fund nevertheless. Is cash acceptable, and will $20 be okay? (Soon as I get a yes, it's in the mail.)

**RANT WARNING**
PC Stuff: Don't get me started on it, I've launched serious rants against political correctness in here before and the CR might not like me doing so again. :) To sum my opinion up, I think PC is stupid and am saddened by how widespread it has become. A real national problem, IMO. It exemplifies the stupid modern trend of many people in this world to define themselves as individuals by claiming membership in a certain group. People who do it, though, despite many opinions to the contrary, are in fact not defining themselves as individuals. They're trying to set themselves apart from everyone else by claiming membership in a group that emphasizes some interest and thinking it makes them look like individuals because there are so many groups with different names. They think that by belonging to one of them they can get friends, pity from others, various benefits, political power, attention, and whatever of the various other things that are for some reason lacking in their lives. <groans> Because of this, people who conform to PC sicken me. If you need to define yourself as a person, there are much better ways to do it than joining an in-crowd, whatever name it goes by. The person who is truly confident in himself and thus able to gain all the things he lacks also does not use a term to define himself. They use their own qualities to do that, and let who they are rather than who people see them as gather the attention. Glad that just about all the people have realized this. To the people in the world who haven't and still feel the need to conform to PC stuff, especially those who push others to also conform to it, I have three words- Get a Life. That's all I have to say about that.
**END RANT**

SOROW: Re- shopping woes: Yep, 'tis the season. Thanks for reminding me, I'm going shopping for exams. <sighs heavily> I'll probably end up spending more than you did, what with my extended family. <reads rant about father and claps> I totally support your attitude there, hope you give back his Xmas present. :) Good luck on getting to see Mononoke soon and hope you passed those tests.

Jaden: Welcome back to the room. Good to hear you're feeling better, and hope the sickness doesn't return soon. If it does, well, you'll once again have all our prayers. :)

**SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE ADOPTED**

Good new Dark Ages story, I enjoyed seeing the Archmage and Lord Sorcerer at odds again (those two have to get into a good old-fashioned magical duel one of these days). The Magus's introduction was very well-written, it was easy to see this leading to the developments ahead in his future. I look forward to seeing what leads up to them in episodes ahead. Good action with the chimerae too, and the plot was very smooth, intriguing, and full of proper emotions and development. The writing definitely gets top marks. Overall, this episode was one of the season's best, I can hardly wait for whatever lurks ahead. Keep up the good work on this season, TGS Staff. Hope your illustrations return soon.

**SPOILERS FOR THE ADOPTED END**

Commando Elite vs. Toy Story: Heh heh. I like that idea too. Even though I enjoyed both movies. Hope that if it does happen, they trash the plastic Army Men and then have Kip or someone chuckle "And they called themselves soldiers?" :) Fights between Woody and Nick Nitro, and Chip and Buzz would also be good. The enjoyable thing about the Toy Story movies, IMO, was that it gave the characters great well-developed and -showcased personalities. This idea would still be nice to see in action without that (I like action movies generally and this sure as heck sounds like a doozy), but you can't have a good story without well-defined characters. So if they make it (doubt they will, but you never know), I hope that gets thrown in. And I also hope that the personalities aren't just developed for satirical or reasons-for-hate use. You all know what I mean by that. :)

Animation in America: Good points made on both sides of this debate. I for one have generally enjoyed most of the animated movies recently (including Iron Giant, Disney's recent fare, and Mononoke especially), for reasons related to plot and character as well as excellent craft and feel-good morals. Most believe that I am in the minority on this. In Austin, though, I'm not sure that's true. The people I see here seem to enjoy animation, whether they're adults or children. Mononoke has enjoyed sellout showings almost every night since it opened here last Wednesday, and back when Tarzan and Iron Giant were in theaters both parents and children were eagerly walking in to see them and walking out with pleased expressions on their faces, talking about the movies' great stories and characters as well as its animation and effects. They were doing the same thing with Mulan last year, and may soon be again if another good animated film comes out here. The one exception to the trend I've noticed so far was the Pokemon movie, and well, parents were already geared to dislike that flick. Except when their kids ask them if it was good. :) Even then, though, I've heard many admit the film did have a lot of redeeming qualities and if it had one weakness, it was "too geared to kids." The comic book shops get a lot of business here too, especially in graphic novels, so it seems many people also enjoy animation of that sort. Maybe this attitude is just unique to Austin, and in the rest of the nation grown-ups are dunderheads when it comes to animated movies and books. Or maybe not, maybe the minority's bad attitude is over-hyped. Hope it's the latter, for the future of animation's sake. <grin>

Star Wars Ep 1 Beanie Babies: And I thought no one could make Natalie Portman ugly. <shakes head sadly> I don't like these things, they're even worse than Beanie babies usually are. Especially the Jarjar one, as if he didn't already have enough negative popularity. <shudders> The Darth Maul one is okay, but I don't think even it is good enough to spend money on. <sighs> Looks like my opinion of Star Wars Ep 1 is further confirmed by this. It was more of a huge marketing franchise than the good story it deserved to be and continues to show itself in the world as such. This doesn't exactly get my hopes up for Ep 2, nor does Lucas's attitude towards writing it. Believe it or not, I'm actually hoping he hires someone else to do the job. I pray they can do better than Lucas did for Ep 1. <closes eyes, shakes head slowly> I will continue to boycott all Star Wars merchandise until Ep 1 stuff is gone from stores. Doubt that will be soon, but one can dream, and believe the fantasy. :)

Lexy: Excellent bit on Lexington last week. I have to admit that he's not a character I've paid much attention to in my fanfic, mainly because I don't do well at writing the kind of introverted people he is. I do have developments planned, though, and will hopefully get to them in the near future. They're small ones and mostly related to Lex's internet knowledge and the various effects it's had on him, but those are what I think are best for his character other than the runaway or turn-evil plots other writers have done (which I know I don't want to do, despite the fact that I've liked them). Not sure why I have this attitude about Lex, maybe it's that he was always portrayed that way in the show IMO and I want to continue it. <shrugs> It's better than taking him in an entirely new direction that turns out to be very wrong for the character and getting flames from all Lex's fans for it. :) You'll be glad to know that your bit got me thinking in some new directions about Lex, I wish I had been able to save a copy of it before the CR crashed (send me one and you'll be thanked profusely :). Not planning to make any sweeping moves with his character in my fanfic any time soon, but I will be doing something in the Season 3 opener (comes after Sword of Prejudice, so I won't be doing it for a long while). That ep will be called Abduction, and will give the clan some dangerous new enemies not of this world. :) Thanks for the character bit, hope this adequately answers your questions in it. (Unfortunately I don't remember all of them. If that changes soon, I may post more.)

Stormy: I agree that Wagner is definitely strong enough for his own series, look forward to your work on it. Hope Caligo, Aashlee, and the regular clan show up in some episodes when the series does start since they're also interesting characters, but it will be good to see Wagner spinoff from them as well (provided the development and plots shine, and I know you can make that so :).

Pistoff: Read Vaccum Riders, enjoyed it. The characters were interesting, even if some of them didn't get very much development (I can assume that's coming when the Vaccum Riders series begins eventually, right?). I liked them enough to become interested in them, and the plot as well. Hope that I don't have to wait too long to see more of it. (But glad you'll probably get started on it way before I even begin my own as yet untitled post-Apocalypse War Gargoyles series.) So, if that was your intention, you did a great job. Please relay to Denis my congratulations on the end of his grounding; I'm happy that you, he, and Jannie are able to enjoy one another's company again. Look forward to more of the G2K series when it comes out. As for that girl who messed with your mind, well, I certainly know how that pain feels. <briefly looks mad as he remembers all the times> My resulting bitterness over it hasn't made me the best person to give you advice on the problem but I will say that a good thing to do is forget the girl in question and move on. There's someone out there for you, I'm sure, and if you have faith you will eventually find her no matter how many stumbling blocks and false alarms are in the way. Just like I found Kit. :) Good luck, man, in that and all endeavours.

Micheal Heitz: Really glad that you're not quitting the cartoon business. Will continue to enjoy your material when it comes out (and looking forward to the next bit, it sounds great!). If anyone keeps flaming you, delete their messages, remember that the majority of Gargs fans like your stuff, and (hopefully) feel at peace. :)

Dungeons and Dragons Stuff: I actually bought that Guide to Hell and read it, it was kind of intriguing. Liked the portrayal of the various devils. Also liked the picture on the front. Yeah, it was a gargoyle-type demon but anyone I think who's seen our gargoyles could easily tell the difference between the two and see each for what they were. :) Of course, I'm not taking the world's many potential Quarrymen into account with that statement, just the people who are like me. As for all the bad gargoyle-bashing TSR and other RPG companies have enjoyed, I don't like it any more than anyone else does. I want TSR to make all bad gargoyles fall under the "Margoyle" listing instead and make "Gargoyles" the good protective creatures they deserve to be. I want GURPS to alter its portrayal of their kind as murderous beasts (see GURPS Black Ops), too, and I especially want to see the enemy removed from Diablo (that last one isn't just due to my personal thoughts about Gargoyles, it's also that the enemy is so darn hard for me to kill!). Yet I do recognize that the trend is unlikely to change soon, and respect the right of the RPG producers to do things the way they have been. I will never like it, though. Not in a million years. :)

Bronx: Re- boyfriend problems: <shakes head> I'm saddened by your recent misfortune, but I also have some advice for you. Lighten up. Guys like that are obviously not the sort who are right for you, I have barely come to know you in these past few months and I think that anyone would have to be either already fully committed to someone else or stupid not to accept a confession of feelings like you gave that man. He would have been lucky to have you, and it should be his loss that he doesn't, not yours. The thing that gets me down most about that excuse for an XY chromosome is his response. He's not ready for a relationship, huh? He should know that in life you have to be ready for change at every moment, especially good change. <rolls eyes> With an attitude like that about such a possible change as good as a relationship with a person like you who cared about him as much as you implied you did, I'm surprised he made it past puberty. My advice to you is the same I gave Pistoff, get past this and wait for the right person, who someday should turn up. Until then and even afterwards, don't forget you have friends who love you here in the CR. $ BTW, I hope you don't mind me putting a guy like the loser who hurt you in the RP (it's not the same one of course, but is a reasonable facsimile). Feel free to go after him if you need to vent. He and all of Leo's entourage of course have suitable deaths coming up soon. <evil grin>$

Jewel: Nice romantic bit, I have to do something like that for Kit sometime. :) Totally agree with you about frat boys, your post pretty much exemplified what the ones here in Austin are like. <sighs> They're worse than the drag rats in many ways with their pranks, loud music, hazing, and wild parties. At least you don't have to worry about drag rats corrupting perfectly good young women with the evils of booze and popularity, or about them driving drunk in your neighborhood when you're trying to get home at night. <sighs> Not surprised another frat boy somewhere castrated himself, and though I do pity him I am glad that's one last possible breeder in the group. <shakes head> I am so happy I have never even thought about joining a frat myself.

Firestorm: Haven't checked out your website yet but will soon. Am sure you and Lady Mystic did a good job on it. Thanks for the announcement that it's up.

That's all for tonight. I have to get to bed now so I get enough sleep for the final tomorrow. Wish me luck on it, people, I very well might need it. Until next time, goodnight!

**MORE RP AHEAD**

On the Avatar, the Ravens hear shouts and protests, followed by a loud thump and a series of snores. "What do you suppose that was?" asks Gubio. "Let's not waste time speculating," suggests Stephanie. "Let's go find out." The others nod and they run down the corridor and turn a corner to find Kaioto unconscious on the floor with SJ and Warpmind standing over him. Jammer immediately breathes a sigh of relief. "Naked sword guy problem solved. Thank God." "Are you okay, SJ?" Doug asks the young scientist. "Yeah," he nods, "I'm just a little shaken. This guy was gonna kill me, and I don't know why." He looks at Warpmind. "Thanks for saving my life." "No problem," Warpmind says. "Can someone tell me what's going on here?" "Uh," Keith shrugs, "I'll try to handle that." He takes Warpmind aside and brings him up to date in his usual cynical manner while the rest of the party clusters around SJ and the fallen Kaioto. "You said you don't know why he was trying to kill you?" Tricia asks. "That's right," SJ agrees. "I don't suppose you guys know." Most of the Ravens look at each other and shrug. Shap glances at Orion with an expression that means he's detecting evil again, but the cleric shakes his head, telling him it's not a good time to reveal that. "Maybe we should ask him and find out," Kit says. "Oh sure," Shauna sighs. "Like he won't go nuts again as soon as he wakes up." "He might," Kit admits. "In that case, we'll have to deal with it. Uh, first, does someone have a cover-up for this guy?" Erin nods and takes a spare robe out of her backpack, then drapes it over Kaioto. "There, all better," she says. "How do you want to interrogate him? I know many ancient hand gestures that might work for us." She rolls up her sleeve and then bends down to grasp Kaioto's neck. Gubio stops her with a grab of the wrist. "Uh, that won't be necessary, Erin. I'm sure our friendship with this guy will suffice, provided he hasn't gone too crazy." "Even if he has, Lathrop knows hypnotism," Doug says. "You think that will work here, Mr.L?" The wizard frowns. "Maybe. It's worth a try. I must note, though, that I'm not very good at this kind of thing." "I'll try probing his mind if you fail," says Tricia. "Let's get him somewhere we can be out of public traffic. Boris and Shap nod, then bend over to pick up Kaioto's body while Stephanie takes the sword for safekeeping. "Um, guys," SJ asks them, "are you sure you know what you're doing?" "The truth?" Elena replies. "We don't. Am I right?" Everyone nods. "We're making this up as we go along, pal," Doug says. "It's not like we've dealt with a similar situation before. If you want to come watch..." "Um, no thanks," SJ says. "I'll just be elsewhere in the station. Good luck." He turns and leaves. The Ravens watch him go, then carry Kaioto into the nearest examination room and lay him down on a bed. Jaden stands by the door, shaking his head as he listens to Keith and Warpmind's conversation and recalls the group's many strange exploits. Further down the hallway, Zezil invisibly follows SJ as he heads down to the Avatar's recreation floor. "That's a demon alright," the imp mutters to himself. "I can see it easily since I'm also one. He's acting funny, though, and I have no idea what he's doing here. Better follow him and find out, since my quarries aren't doing anything important. The master may need to know." He sighs and continues to pursue SJ, wondering if he's going to soon get any answers.

**END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 12:35:22 AM
IP: pool-207-205-237-47.dlls.grid.net

<The CR Trumpeters enter the room and call for attention with the blare of their trumpets. Fire Storm walks into the room, pulls a scroll out from under his arm, and opens it.>

"HERE YE, HERE YE!" FS bellows, "My website 'Fire Storm's Dimension" is now open! Click my link to enter!"

<Fire Storm rolls up the scroll and places it back under his arm>

Oh yeah... THANK YOU HONEY! (Lady Mystic has spent quite a bit of time on this site, and for that I thank her. Now, I have got to get her something for Christmas and take her out to dinner. (Not that I mind doing either! :)

Making this website was pretty rough.
I wrote the stories,
LM made the HTML from scratch over a several month period, I... avoided adding content,
LM improvised content for the site
I... Um... was there for emotional support
LM tried to make sure it would load on most browsers,
I eventually added content
LM made all of the graphics
I... I made dinner!
OH! and I helped her upload the pages!
OH! OH! AND I also got her domain name
Http://www.mysticstorm.com!

(Ok, ok... Lady Mystic deserves most of the credit for this. BUT IT WAS MY IDEA!... kinda...)




Coyote: Ya know... you would think that they would be smart enough to realize that guns are not toys, wouldn't ya?
<she'll go with me to the Henry Ford IMAX theater to see it. :)>
Well now... is that so? Well then, we may just have to run into you that day!

Bronx: There hasn't been Gargoyles stuff in the Disney store since early 1997. Sorry. :(

Pistoff/Christine: WOAH! PLEASE lets not start stuff like that again. PLEASE?

Christine: Yes, there is a Obi-Won beanie doll!


Fire Storm - [<--- Click me! Grand opening!]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 12:25:39 AM
IP: 216.90.45.178

SOROW and everyone else with tests and whatnot> Best of luck! :D

Gunjack Valentine> <<That WOULD be a bit of a handicap... How long have you been playing for?>> Since the days of the NES (and original Game Genie <grin>), believe it or not.

Warpmind> <<That one-liner is pretty much up for grabs (unlike Angela in Michael Heitz' comic this Avalon Mist - hehehe) since the one who forged that line (in surprise, I might add) found it so preposterous, he refuses to have anything to do with it again. I liked it, though, as did everyone present at the time...>> Um...I've lost whatever you were talking about in a cloud of cerebral flatulence. :} What exactly are you referring to? <<I'm playing with the idea of having built Dagon, a car that will, in a sense, be the "child" of Cthulhu and EBON1, containing technology and ideas from both... what do you think? It'll be a heavily modified DeLorean DMC-12 with various form of rather sadistic weaponry implemented, like a half-dozen Mavericks, dual Vulcan 20mm Autocannon, etc. etc. and so on.>> :O THAT IS SO COOL!!! :D

Jannie> <<Coyote> thank you, my friend. You're the only one, so far, who has noticed that Pistoff is not the only one who is at a great loss over Denis not being online. The net is/was our main way of communicating.>> <baffs self> I can't believe I overlooked that...<hugZ, not knowing what else to say or do>

Todd and Guandalug> D&D Stuff> Oi...I knew it was bad, but I had no idea...

SJ> <<expect the Star Wars Episode 2 script to be the result of late-night cramming.>> Oi...does this mean Jar Jar won't be dying in the next movie? >:/

Green Baron> Kewl site. :) I did a bit of snooping around in the rest of the site...Apparently there's a patron saint of Internet users. O_o And I'll be tactful enough not to mention St. Nereus... <G>

Aaron> <<I swear my game hates me. Every time I use a mace as my backup weapon, I get lots of gargoyles. It is a strange feeling to walk toward a sleeping bunch of them with a big blunt object.>> <SHUDDER> Glad I don't have that game...

Jenna> <<Mike and I had to crunch all the moving into one day. WE started at ten o'clock sunday morning, and didn't stop until 4 am Monday morning- straight. Needless to say, we could hardly move by the time we were done.>> o_O <hugZ>

Anne> Solstice> I'll be here, as always! :D <<SIGOURNEY WEAVER WENT BLONDIE??!!!>> Odd, that...although, if she looks good with no hair at all, surely she'd look good blonde. :)

Coyote> <<The guy said he checked the gun to make sure it wasn't loaded ... the ritual is that they line up the pledges and try to scare them by dry-firing the gun while its barrel is pressed against their crotches. Seventh pledge got unlucky, I guess, and found out that indeed, the gun *was* loaded. Now the frat chapter is facing losing its charter for this incident.>> This kind of thing is why I think fraternities ought to be *very* closely monitored. Eesh...

Jewel> Frat guys> Oi...Beavis and Butthead live. O_o

Bronx> <<Has anyone here loved someone so much that it drives you out of your mind? That's how I feel like right now, and the worse part about it is that I told the guy how I felt today. " I'm just not interested in a relationship right now" Oh man, I could just feel my heart being ripped out.>> :( <more hugZ> <<Disney stores- I went into one during a mad dash to find some presents, and much to my dissapointment no gargoyles stuff! what's up with that?>> Probably for the same reason I didn't find anything gargoylian during my several trips to Disney World itself...

SOROW> <<My dad just said the must insulting things I've ever heard! [...]>> Ack...that sounds hideous! <even more hugZ>
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 12:24:16 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Christine: Oh, really? Somebody plays with my emotions and you have the nerve to say _I'm_ the one who's acting inappropriately?!?! Sure, maybe it was foolish of me to believe what this...person...was saying. But the fact is, I was being toyed with. I do NOT like to be played with, manipulated, or tricked. People who do these things make me sick.

As for telling the "whole" story...well, if you know so damn much about it--which is the impression I got from reading your post--why don't _you_ take a shot at it? Since, I'm guessing, this person is probably a friend of yours (so naturally you leap to her defense), she probably told you _her_ side of it, and you're drawing a conclusion without hearing what _I_ have to say, other than a couple of small comments posted here earlier. Whatever she told you, I'm sure she made _me_ out to be the bad guy. *shrug* Whatever.

My grandmother just died because of a colossal screw-up on the part of her nursing home--and, just a couple of days later, I find out that I was being toyed with. Put yourself in my position and see how calmly you'd react to it. And if you knew more about _my_ background, you'd have a clearer idea of why I'm so upset.
Pistoff
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 11:36:25 PM
IP: wire-11.koalas.com

Michael > oh? Like it'd hurt my feelings if you sent me pages upon pages! Modesty? Bah. Got no use for it, myself ; )

Warpmind > how many agent rejections for Black Roses? So far, eight ...

Pistoff > okay, this is really troubling me in my mind ... why don't you tell people the _whole_ story about this 'woman'? I think there is a good deal of misunderstanding and over-reacting going on here, and it's coming across as very inappropriate. It's great that everyone is so quick to offer their support, but I think if people knew what was really behind this whole mess, it might well be a different story. I understand that you're upset, but this can't be the best way of handling it.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 10:47:35 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

My big brother did the sweetest thing today. It's my sister-in-law's 25th birthday, and while she was at work, he broke into her car and left 2 roses in there. At home, he left two more in the mailbox, two more in the door, and left 19 more in their bedroom (25 roses--one for each year) and then he baked her a cake. It was the sadest, most pathetic cake I've ever seen...it was sooooo cute. It even mafde the Great Anti-Romantic say, "awww....that's the single most pathetic cake I've ever seen in my life! That's soooo cute!" and say "Awww!" over the whole situation...(note my normal reaction to such a thing would be "<hurl>"...
<g> I think it was that pathetic little cake that did it...
jewel
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 10:34:58 PM
IP: atlnb302-36.splitrock.net

***WATCH OUT! MAJOR RANT!***
THAT DOES IT!!!! My dad just said the must insulting things I've ever heard! He accused me of not caring about my PSAT score! Yes daddy, like I really want to work at McDonald's and flip moldy hamburgers on purpose! It was one bad testing day, OKAY?! He found out from my dance teacher that I haven't been eating breakfast. Will someone please tell me when I have the time to eat breakfast after five hours of sleep, studying for tests, and getting to school at 6:30 am for practice!? I am NOT anorexic nor do I want to be! He thinks I work to much! Yeah, after only been working, what, six weeks I work too much?! My grades are a hella lot higher than everyone else's! I'M #14 IN A CLASS OF 530 FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD! Now he's stormed out of the house for a walk to supposedly make me feel bad... FEEL BAD FOR HIM?! F#@K NO! I just want to slap him with a rusty belt! AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
***END RANT***

On a more pleasant note...

Warp> Thanks for the prayers! They worked cause I'm positive I at least passed my three tests! Well, physics could have been a hell of a lot better.

DARK AGES> I really liked "The Adopted!" No spoilers, but I noticed the main difference between the first and second season. The first season seemed to focus on random characters with lots of appearances by the Trio. I have not read one word about the Trio in the second season so far. It's great that DA is focusing on Goliath and his rookery now, cause that's who it should focus on... but I miss the Trio! When are they coming back?
SOROW
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 10:25:55 PM
IP: dll2a010-0568.splitrock.net

Click my name for pictures of the Phantom Menace plushies I mentioned. 8)

Real post later...
Wilek
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 08:21:25 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

<--- "New form SEARS/CRAFTMAN - THE QUARRYHAMMER 2000! Garruanteed to smash statues, watermelons, and Rosie O'Donnels head, and make yourself a public nuisance like nothing else on the market!"

Bronx:<<Disney stores- I went into one during a mad dash to find some presents, and much to my dissapointment no gargoyles stuff! what's up with that?>> I know what you're talking about. Everytime I go into into a Disney store, they got loads of "Mighty Ducks" cartoon crap but no Gargoyles! Mighty Ducks sucked!!! Every time I when to one of those stores and didn't find faind any Gargoyles stuff, I'd go up to the people at the check-up counter and demand that they order some! Instead, they just give me this frightened, deer-in-the-headlights look.

Pistoff: Forget about what she thinks about you. Ditch the Bitch!
Tim P.
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 07:17:02 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

Bronx- don't mind we all need to blow off some steam. Hang in there, we all know where you are coming from. HUgz.

jenna
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:53:52 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

*storms in not looking happy*

****WARNING, RANT ON LOVE UPHEAD ***************

( so what else is new in a teens' life?)

Alright.. I have finaly realised that Satan has a grudge on me, and so he's been making my life a living hell. (pardon my french) I suffer alot of depression in the holiday season (partially because I am a child of divorced parents) and love has alot to do with it. All around me there are non stop signs of loving families.And meanwhile my friends with their loves getting exicted about spending the holiday season with each other. Has anyone here loved someone so much that it drives you out of your mind? That's how I feel like right now, and the worse part about it is that I told the guy how I felt today. " I'm just not interested in a relationship right now" Oh man, I could just feel my heart being ripped out.

I know this sounds a little melodramatic, but I've just finally come to a point where it's getting depressing for me. Normally I'm a pretty rational person, and often puts this issue on the backburner to focus on other things. Just not this time...

I apologize everyone, I just really needed some release.


****END RANT******

Disney stores- I went into one during a mad dash to find some presents, and much to my dissapointment no gargoyles stuff! what's up with that?


*walks out quietly singing* "Silent night, Holy night.."
Bronx - [Bronx Wyvern4@aol.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:48:00 PM
IP: spider-wc041.proxy.aol.com

Jewel- <women like that b give all of us with XX chromsomes a bad rap>

You said it sister.
jenna
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:42:34 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Pistoff: It's women like that b that give all of us with XX chromosomes a bad name. Bleh.

Alan Keyes: After reading more of what this guy has said, I can quite firmly say he *scares* me. Anyone as rabidly anti-abortion and anti-gay/lesbian just scares me.

Beenies: Dear Lord, there's a *Jar Jar* one?!!!? <sudden evil thought strikes Jewel> Hmm...where could I get one of these? I have a friend who hates Jar Jar so much she uses one of teh posters of him as a dart board...hee hee hee...she'd kill me dead...

Frat boys: Eeeeeeee! I've been shot with a BB gun before, and it *hurts* like a mofo. I don't even want to *imagine* what that poor boy...Oh, well, stupid is as stupid does, and let's be honest, most frat boys are not exactly the paragons of intellectual development. Tow examples:
Both of these were overheard at Villanova university by a friend of mine, and it illustrates frat boys perfectly:
Example 1: This is in a Japanese class. To frame: they were watching a video of sumo wrestling.
Fratboy 1: Dude! that guy's *fat*! He's *really, really* fat!"
Fratboy 2: Hey, the other guy's fat, too!

Example 2:
Fratboy 1: Dude, beer?
Fratboy 2: Beer?
Fratboy 1: Beer, man! Beer!
Fratboy 2: Dude! Beer!
(together): Beer!

This is in the middle of the day.

Is it any *surprise* some fratboy managed to get himself shot in the genitals? However, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around how that guy got his smushed by a toilet at a Starbucks...
jewel
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:39:22 PM
IP: atlnb303-08.splitrock.net

BTW- did anyone see the Sat eps of either Beastmachines or Pokemon? I missed them both because of the moving and am wondering what happened...
jenna - [Jennifer.Garcia@glm.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:35:02 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Pist- sent you an em--

Jannie- hang in there sister- hugz
jenna
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:26:28 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

**WARNING!! VERY PAINFUL TO PEOPLE POSSESSING A Y-CHROMOSOME RANT AHEAD!!**

**enters clutching his crotch in sympathetic pain**

Gotta *love* the local news report tonight ... hoo boy ... they reported that a frat hazing ritual at U-M went overboard, and wound up with a pledge getting ... unnh ... *shot in the genitalia with a BB gun.*

**writhes in sympathetic pain on the floor before continuing**

Good gravy, what on God's green Earth is wrong with these frat $#!theads?! The guy said he checked the gun to make sure it wasn't loaded ... the ritual is that they line up the pledges and try to scare them by dry-firing the gun while its barrel is pressed against their crotches. Seventh pledge got unlucky, I guess, and found out that indeed, the gun *was* loaded. Now the frat chapter is facing losing its charter for this incident.

**shudders** And people wonder why I never rushed a frat in college ...

**END POSSIBLY PAINFUL RANT!!**

Jannie, re: Denis' situation: At least Pissy had some good news for you ... somewhat ... at least he's not completely cut off from you, which is more than I had. **hugs** Hang in there.

Mandi: Cute pic ... I've got one of those players, too (velcro'd to the glovebox of the Caddy with a tape deck adapter). You're right, it was kinda funny seeing you in a 19th century costume listenin' away to your Discman. :)

Pissy: Should've said something last night ... that woman reminds me of a lot of the cold-hearted bitches that played with *my* feelings when I was in school ... I know how much it hurts ... tell ya what ...

**Buick pulls in the CR driving the Caddy**

... she's not worth wasting Cthulhu's time. I'll loan ya Buick and my '79 to Joyride that ice queen, whaddya say? :)

Warpmind: Oh goody ... **wrings hands and smiles nervously wondering what good Mr. de InzanE did with "Team Bravo" ... **

Fire Storm: Yeah, it's in normal theaters that late ... but I want the IMAX experience, and my mom's already said she'll go with me to the Henry Ford IMAX theater to see it. :)

Anne: I'm still in, and so is Rosanna, but I'm gonna need some help ... anyone who can help, I need a sound file of a particular arrangement of "Happy Xmas," specifically one recorded about three or four years ago by Melissa Etheridge ... could ya'll help me, please? :)

Marc: Timedancer is in production as we speak ... I'll leave it to the folks who know better to give ya a timeline on when it'll come out.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 06:16:26 PM
IP: zzz-209252248155.splitrock.net

Quick post for now...

Update on the Denis situation: I just found out that he'll probably be back in business in a few days. In the meantime, he said he'd email bits of his outline to me from a friend's house. So, anybody who was worried about the progress of Gargoyles 2K (including myself, heh)--we can all relax a bit, I think. I'm working on an amusing little scene involving Captain Chavez and the Dude, and Denis is working on the scene that takes place just before that (Xander and co. at a football game :). So, things are slowly getting back on track....

Regarding "Jerkette": Well, I emailed her and gave her my opinion. ;) I told her that I didn't even want to hear from her unless she apologized. It's been almost a week and she hasn't responded, so my conclusion is that she isn't one damned bit sorry for what she did. In fact, she probably doesn't even realize she did anything wrong, and is wondering why I'm honked off. *shrugs* Oh well. She can blow it out her ass, for all I care.

Jannie: *hugs tight* Denis will be back soon. This will blow over. Remember, what doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger. :) *hugs again*

More detailed responses later, with luck...
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 05:46:18 PM
IP: wire-8.koalas.com

Sorry, have to get this out of me:

SIGOURNEY WEAVER WENT BLONDIE??!!!
Anne
MN, USA
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 04:58:19 PM
IP: 209-130-164-126.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Hi, you asked for it, so you got it...today I started the production of a new cartoon for avalon mists, managed four pages so far...
Christine>I'm taking your word...there will be enough disk space for a cartoon (at least?) twice as long as the old one;)(Maybe you shouldn't have promised that, for I often don't know the meaning of the word modesty;)
Michael Heitz
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 04:21:22 PM
IP: stu1id1a.ip.tesion.net

Taking a break with my finally fixed internet connection but broken space barto lend a thought or two.

Christine> Thanks so much for the info. It should help me a lot.

Sevarius> Ugggh. Lucas and writing is bad. I think he's too possesive with his Star Wars projects. He needs someone else to write his scripts with, and let more people help in creation of the story and especially the dialogue. Even in the first three there are lines that just make me cringe. In my mind, Lucas has a great imagination, and that's it. Even his direction is nothing out of the ordinary. Let's hope episode II does turn out better.

Jenna> I think its good that animation is expanding its horizons, but gargoyles is about my limit for the amount of maturity I can take in cartoons. Though I loved Princess Mononoke, the gore and the couple of swears just don't seem right to me. I don't know, I guess I'm just too old-fashioned.

That's it for now. Hey,when's Timedancer gonna start again?
marc - [dadigan@uiuc.edu]
IL
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 04:15:05 PM
IP: farm1-cache1.gw.uiuc.edu

Ugh---

A form crawls in and it turns out to be a very exhausted Jenna.

"the great exodus is finished" she says, out of breath.

Well it rained here in HOuston almost all weekend, so Mike and I had to crunch all the moving into one day. WE started at ten o'clock sunday morning, and didn't stop until 4 am Monday morning- straight. Needless to say, we could hardly move by the time we were done. I had to call in sick from work, as I had no sleep. I still feel wiped out- now all I have to do is unpack all these mountians of boxes in the new apt.

I feel bad I b!tched about the new place. It really is rather nice. Mike and I are able to relax a lot easier in it; because were not in the crowded city any more. we can actually see some stars and here the birds singing as they nest at dusk. You can't put a price tag on that.

Our phone is down still, so I wont be able to check my hotmail accts. until I don't know when. Here is my addy at work.
Now onto responses-

Jannie- Hugz hang in there my sister. I heard about Denis. I hope things get better. I'll keep both you and he in my prayers. Hugz again.

Fred- <regarding that &*&(*N%^$#@% > your better off without her. Hang in there my friend. Keep your eyes peeled for an em.

Aaron- I'm here. Tired, but here.

Animation. -- well, I for one am hopeful that there will be adult animation soon, esp. CGI. There is one movie called Blue Planet that is defiantely adult that is coming out summer 2000- the first line in the trailer is "playtime's over; let's kick some ass." Looks awesome. and again very adult.

I think we will see more and more of this as generation x begins to get older. They are demanding entertainment that they can relate too, and frankly a lot of gen x'ers I know DO watch cartoons. So as they become more and more of major consumers, more things wil become targeted to their tastes.

Also animation growing up owes a lot to two things :anime (as if that were anyone's guess) and games. Games esp. where cgi or animated characters are put in more adult situations: Duke Nukem, Resident Evil trilogy; star craft; War Craft. I don't see animation going backward. It will always have it's kid market; but it is expanding into the adult market as well. I am very hopeful.

PC terms- hilarions. what more can I say.

new fic- haven't read it yet; so can't say much.

Well, that's all the energy I have now-- I hope to get on line again soon.

***Jenna crawls back out of Cr****
jenna - [Jennifer.Garcia@glm.com ]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 02:31:51 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Hi everyone :)

I'm wondering if everybody is still in for the Winter Solstice??

Hehe...I was telling my dad about the DC crimes and he finally asks me, "What does DC stand for?" and before I could answer he continues, "D@mn Computer?" I told him what it meant and he got all red :D

Bye all!
Anne
MN, USA
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 02:12:11 PM
IP: 209-130-164-184.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Well, what's happening in the world this week. There was another school shooting somewhere in Oklahoma, and NASA supposedly lost another $165 million mars probe. Right, that's what they want us to believe.

Caught half and episode of Pokemon this morning, and I heard Jesse doing a scaled-down version of Naga's laugh.

Pistoff> Geez, I can't believe the nerve of that woman. And I'm sorry about Denis being cut off. Dang, and I was really looking forward to the next part of Injustice for all too.

Stormy> Well, look at it this way. It's not trying actively to lose money, it's an investment. Let's say you own a lot of oil wells. Now someone invents an engine that gets 200 mpg. Would you let him market it, thus drastically cutting your revenues, or would you pay him an obscene sum of money for the rights to his invention and then sit on it for the rest of your life. This isn't a perfect analogy, but it's sort of what I think Disney's doing.

Mara> Getting paid not to sing, eh? I think together we could blackmail an entire ballroom by threatening a duet.

Coyote, Dags> Thanks for the correction of Eboshi. The reason I ask is I want someone with that name to be the head of Nightstone's far east branch. :)

Coyote> <<Minnie Driver's voice sounds very different when she's not in "British-high-pitched-airhead" mode, that's why Lady Eboshi sounded like Marina Sirtis at the start.>> Ahh, I see. Oh, well. <<For that matter, the entire movie that certainly didn't sound like the same woman who gushed "I was SAVED by a flying WILD MAN in a LOINCLOTH!" in Tarzan.>> I love that line. Thinking of Elisa saying it still cracks me up.

D&D gargoyles> It's not just TSR. Blizzard's Diablo has four classes of gargoyle monsters too. I swear my game hates me. Every time I use a mace as my backup weapon, I get lots of gargoyles. It is a strange feeling to walk toward a sleeping bunch of them with a big blunt object.

GB> Caught the Dennis Miller Millinnieum special and there was a bit during the 19th century segment I knew you would love.

"In response to the election of Abraham Lincoln as president, South Carolina has seceeded from the union. The announcement was made by South Carolina's govenor, Strom Thurmond."

Jenna, are you out there?

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 01:32:08 PM
IP: ppp-203.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Tim> I just love those PC quotes. Personally, the whole political correctness thing makes me think of McCarthyism, only the other extreme of the political spectrum.

Jewel> I'll try to re-send the e-mail. I don't remember it exactly, though.

<<On others, I can be rabidly rightist, which has gotten
me into more than one fight with my dad and big brother (leaving them to decide I was a "snob" [which translates into "that girl's been around Whites too long and has lost touch with How Things Really are."] Arg). >>

Hmmm....you should be able to have fun with that. Yous houdl date some Republcian with my leanings just to see their reaction :)

<<They're viewed as uncle Toms and sellouts because, in general, the Republican party has done *squat* in
terms of helping most Blacks. In fact, the Republican party is seen as the party of the out-of-touch old-money oppressors--so allying with them is seen as a stab in the back--or worse, like a sucking-up "good house slave" wannabe-WHite. This is not my personal view, of course, but that's how it is.>>

Well, I know you don't have that view. Yopu're much too open-minded to take that extreme position. I do think Republcians should do more to appeal to black voters as well as minorities in general. There are Republcian positions that are very good for blacks, though Republicans just assume that they won't get more than 10% of black voters (except for a few politicians liek George W. Bush, George Allen, Phil Gramm, and *here's a surprise* Strom Thurmond), while Democrats largely take blackjs for granted as a guaranteed constituency. This is a prime opportunity for Republicans if they don't screw it up.

I also used to be as partisan as you used to be, only on teh Republican side, though when I was a registered voter, I became less partisan especially since there are Democrats I can vote for in local and state elections in Louisiana. I really don't need to pick an affiliation in Louisiana, due to the open primary system, and my politcial affiliation will depend on what region I live in, too. I have an Uncle who is very conservative, but a registered Democrat, because the area he lives in is overwhelmingly Democratic. That's all party affiliation means to me.

I also found the Clinton fiasco amusing and odd, since I see Clinton as one of the big reasons for Republicans taking the House and Senate in 94. To me, it seems the two factions have actually made a good team and have kept any extremes in check. They should ahev realized you cannot indict a Southern Governor and make the charges stick. Southern Governors (like Edwards and Clinton) are very slick crooks and you can't pin anything on them. It's not worth the effort :)

I find all that Lewinsky stuff pretty stupid, but it's no worse than that Iran-Contra witch hunt in the 80s.

Sevarius Jr.> I wholehearteldy agree with you. Alan Keyes is good, though he is perceived as a single issue candidate. Actually, Alan Keyes has served as an Assistant Ambassador to the UN. Perhaps in the McCain Administration, Alan Keyes could be Secretary of State. Another politcal figure who has a great message, but is not too visible is Jack Kemp. He would be a much better model for conservatives, but little bleeps like Katie Couric and that bozo Steve Roberts would prefer to have us beleive all conservatives are like Jesse Helms or Bob Barr. BTW, Al Sharpton is being critical of Hillary Clinton, so it should be really funny if he went third party or formed a primary challenge to her. I guess Hillary could ask for her Arafat's wife to campaign for her. I hope that stupid comment she made about a Palestinian state is nicely repeated in the campaign. <sarcastic>That should really work for her in NYC</sarcastic>

Mara Fund>

Mara Corodva lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn if that helps with rides and such. I wouldn't make a minimum donation, though it should be enough to justify the cost of postage.

Unless Mara would rather use her address, just mail it to me:

Thomas M. Logan Forsyth
30 Neron Place
New Orleans, LA 70118-4266

I won't set any deadlines for now, since we have a long time to prepare for G2K.

SJ and Jewel> Here's a thought. The three of us should meet and we could discuss politics and do other fun things (like MSTing cheesie movies). Maybe we can get another political junkie and John McLoughlin involved :)

Anne> Welcome back

Doug and Kit collective> I'm sorry you two won't be going to Orlando :( I will miss both of you.

James Birdsong> Welcome back, too. Where have you been?

Now, I'm off for Class. BTW, yesterday was teh feast day of St. Nicholas. Click on my name for a link about Santa Claus :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 11:18:23 AM
IP: 141.164.77.229

Interesting and funny little bit about the next Star Wars bit from over at Zealot.com....unfortunately, it's COMPLETELY true. Which is why I hate George Lucas....
*********************************************************

Lucas vs. Writing
We haven't heard from Mr. George Lucas in a little while. Strap yourselves in, gang.

When being interviewed on the Popcorn website, Mr. Lucas was asked about writing Episode 2. Does he like writing? And I quote:

'No, definitely not. I'm in the middle of it but I wish I were finished."

I love this Lucas guy. He is helping us so much. We don't have to make up things to say about him.

What I just don't get is HOW HAS HE NOT WRITTEN THIS THING YET?! He's known about it for SIXTEEN YEARS! I guess it's kind of like when your teacher tells you about this big test - but it's not going to happen for a few months. So of course, you don't bother doing anything about it until the week before.

In other words, expect the Star Wars Episode 2 script to be the result of late-night cramming.




Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 09:23:39 AM
IP: 164.106.134.5

Wilek, Todd> Yeah... D&D was the start... and the effects are still in place. Most fantasy-games that use Gargoyles at all considder them to be evil, demonic and aggressive monsters (often enough I had to kill em cause I couldn't avoid em, but most of the time I simply evaded them.... It's a shame how easily those heroes of the night are misused as unintelligent, brutal monsters. I'd prefer that to stop, but as long as most authors of those games rely on D&D (or AD&D, for that matter) as their source of information, the Quarrymen win.......
Guandalug
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 09:16:03 AM
IP: mailgate-b.ais-gmbh.de

Coyote> thank you, my friend. You're the only one, so far, who has noticed that Pistoff is not the only one who is at a great loss over Denis not being online. The net is/was our main way of communicating. My phone bills are high enough with the ocassional once or twice a month international phone call....so there's no way I can afford to call him more often now.
You are a very kind person. *hugs* *curls up in your chair and stares at the candle*
Jannie
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 07:23:03 AM
IP: 196-106.c.esc4.net

WILEK NELEUS - The Quarrymen have been in TSR from the start. From the very point that the Dungeons & Dragons game started up, their rulebooks portrayed gargoyles as evil, sadistic monsters, who like torturing their prey for the sheer pleasure of it.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 07:15:08 AM
IP: 216.87.46.150.dialup-stl.primary.net

Man... I GOTTA get to bed!

So, my computer burped a little, so I decided to to a emergency backup (my homework can wait)
10 CD's later...

Coyote: Fantasia 2000 will be released in regular theaters in May or March.

Ya know what? I am tired. Good night. And yes, I know it is 6:00 am.

I'll post later today with the grand opening of my new website, thanks to Lady Mystic. Yeah!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 05:49:23 AM
IP: 216.90.45.166

Hi, guys. For some reason, I feel compelled to include myself in the big RP here today.

**RP WARNING**
Warpmind de InzanE suddenly materializes... somewhere. Looking around, he sees nothing but hi-tech instruments on every wall. Some sort of spaceship? "Improbable. Earth don't have this kind of technology yet. Unless..." Turning toward a noise, Warpmind observes someone running along the corridor, an expression of pure fear on his face. Turning the corner behind him is a naked guy with a katana.
"Excuse me, would you mind... oh, forget it."
Warpmind digs into his little grey backpack and pulls up a little pistol, then shoots the naked guy with the sword. He slows down almost instantly, before finally slumping to the floor, snoring loudly. The guy who was running stops, and looks at Warpmind.
"Thanks, pal. Who are you?"
"Name's Warpmind de InzanE, mind telling me where the fudge I am?"
**RP END**

Spike: So, you've never seen snow in RL? Wanna trade?

Coyote: Sure, I'll send you a copy of the episode, as soon as I rmember to copy it onto a floppy... I don't have internet access on Ahasverus, y'know, gotta use school equipment...

Aaron: My cane is supposed to look like a plain ol' walking cane, in... was it mahogany I ordered? I don't remember too clearly, got it somewhere... It's got a few nice spots of metal surface, particularly where the cane separates from the handle... I'll tell you more specifics when it's here.

Fire Storm: No, slushpiles is ONE OF the bad things about snow.

Michael Heitz: Oooh, I can't wait to see your next strip... promising, friend, promising!

Pistoff: Last I saw, the Joyriders were charging into a conferance hall in Vegas, where the some sicko organization of animal lovers and pedophiles were gathered... and I don't know anything after that...

Christine: Oh, c'mon, be an optimist. How many rejections have you received on Black Roses already? I'd surmise the Law of Averages states quite clearly that any day now, you'll get a yes.

Wilek: That one-liner is pretty much up for grabs (unlike Angela in Michael Heitz' comic this Avalon Mist - hehehe) since the one who forged that line (in surprise, I might add) found it so preposterous, he refuses to have anything to do with it again. I liked it, though, as did everyone present at the time... As for the AD&D stuff: I think I'll stick to Call of Cthulhu, then... And, of course, that Vampire: The Masquerade game I've become hijacked for...

Sorow: You're up on my "pray for success and happiness"-list. Best of luck.

Pistoff & Wilek: I'm playing with the idea of having built Dagon, a car that will, in a sense, be the "child" of Cthulhu and EBON1, containing technology and ideas from both... what do you think? It'll be a heavily modified DeLorean DMC-12 with various form of rather sadistic weaponry implemented, like a half-dozen Mavericks, dual Vulcan 20mm Autocannon, etc. etc. and so on. If you disagree, fine. I'll build it from scratch (or something).

Dags: Pay attention, buddy. It is quite obvious that Marcus will grow up to be the Magus. He'll fight against the Weird Sisters and win, remember? In any case, I do agree that it was a good DA episode... better than most of this season, anyway. Sorry, folks, but I just felt that most of season 2 this far has been a little... thin. But, you're getting there, worry not.

Well, unless there are more posts then, I shall make my quiet leave... See y'all later, friends.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 04:04:01 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Princess Mononoke > I will agree on the fact that most Adults dont find Anime that interesting, but on the other hand there are a good bit that do. and in terms of it playing in the theaters, It just came to only one theather in nashville this past friday. Although it is more than likely edited to fit the rating it has. I already have it on tape already and it is pretty damn awesome. its, I guess you could say, the unrated version. I also have the Script to Princess Mononoke.

Aaron > the head of Irontown is Lady Eboshi. this is the correct spelling also.

The Adopted > good DA episode. it was very interesting. and I wonder how far the Archmage will try and go with Marcus.

Vacuum Riders > good story, pistoff. I enjoyed it a lot.

well, getting back to Anime, I'm going to an Anime Convention this Saturday. hopefully I'll find some stuff I'm looking for. like the Crying Freeman tapes, Vampire Hunter D, Oh, My Goddess! comics, DB AND DBZ Comics, etc.

see you all later. *fades into thin air*
Dags - [Dagastino_2000@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 03:10:46 AM
IP: host-209-214-114-7.bna.bellsouth.net

****WARNING THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE A SHORT RP****
"A naked man...carrying a sword..." Jaden says in disbelief to Kitainia. "We have to find a naked man carrying a sword? Oh very well, BUT I'M NOT TOUCHING HIM!!!"
(if this messes up anything my character says or did while I was sick please disregard)
****END RP!!!****

Thanks for the welcome back. I feel much better, was pretty bad for awhile. Almost passes out while I was standing up a few times.

Wilek-Thanks for helping me get caught up.

Darth Maul Beanies- AWWWWWW. Do they come with sharp horns and glowing eyes?

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 02:24:54 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Dang... still no "previous CR" link...

Ooo, mama. I realized today that I've been neglecting some of my favorite music, so I popped in a soundtrack that I haven't listened to since before we moved... Crimson Tide. Some of Hans Zimmer's best, and just the ticket for driving away the yawns...

Firestorm><<testing testing... is this thing on? No more posts... Made me wonder...>> No kidding. And right before the room went down, the posts slowed down to a trickle... Fortunately, it looks like things are picking up again.

Wilek><<You're talking to someone who is typically killed by the first enemy he encounters in any given video game (the most spectacular example being the ninja zombies from Shadowman).>> Ouch. That WOULD be a bit of a handicap... How long have you been playing for? << BOTH. >:( In the VERY FIRST LEVEL of the Alien game, there is this bit where a few pitiful humans are standing about, waiting to be slaughtered...except one has this gun that can somehow take down a xenomorph with about a half second of sustained fire. <hmph> A thousand pardons, I was under the impression that dre'kkeths were invincible bloodthirsty marauders straight out of nightmares, obviously I was mistaken.>> Since I last posted, I beat the Aliens demo... the marines really aren't that much of a threat to a smart Bug, you've just gotta know how to deal with 'em. The Alien is EASILY the nastiest of the three races in that game, what with all of it's special abilities... <<<twitchtwitch> Oi...>> tell me about it... I've been working on a line drawing of a colt 1911a1 .45 pistol, and it took me about three days to get it washed out and refited. Now, I'm working on some fun little variants... Op Specials, SOCOM types, and other goodies.

SJ(thanks, wilek)> <<one big honkin' navy ship that they sold to a private buyer from Florida. Only the geniuses in inventory forgot to remove little things before they sent it to the guy.....such as the missile launcher. The PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL missile launcher. The perfectly functional EASY TO OPERATE missile launcher. And, reportedly, they're not entirely sure that other ordinance was removed before the ship changed hands. The buyer's being appropriately cryptic as to exactly what hardware he's packing....>> Uh, did the US government talk to this guy at all about weapon regulations? Oh, and did they mention what type of launcher it was?
Come to think of it, they probably sold him the launcher, but took out all the ammo. You can't exactly pic up SAMs and cruise missles at the 7-11...

Scott><<I'm still shocked that so many people here liked "The Mummy"...>> Personally, I liked "The Mummy" more for the ideas it gave me than for the film itself... They had some great material, but they butchered it fore and aft.

As to Adults vs. Adult Animation, I'd have to agree with you. The same thing happens with Comics & Graphic novels; most people just refuse to see them as anything but juvenile trash.

M. Heitz><<You were probably right, if there are some *cencored* just seeking trouble, I shouldn't take my cartoons back and punish those who like them (would be the wrong ones)...if there is interest, I could get a new strip for the next Avlaon mists...>> YESSSSSS!!!!! Love the idea, by the way, and I'm looking forward to it! :D

Jewell><<SJ: Not to beat politics to death (I'll save that for the politicians), but you were wondering what Democarats have done for Blacks to grant them so many still being loyal to them.>> Actually, it wasn't SJ OR Green Baron; it was I. Sorry for the mixup...
As for the politics, I'm steppin' out of this one. FAR too touchy...

Pisstoff - sorry to hear about the jerkette and Dennis... When it rains, it POURS. ;P

Shogun><<Darth Maul Body Wash> WARNING! continued usage of this product could lead to pigmentation of the skin that makes you look like a checkerboard on acid.>> ROTHLMHO! Heck, if it does that, where can I find the stuff? When I shaved my head over the summer, I tried to get a guy to paint my face to look like DM... Unfortunately, I was at a church camp at the time, so I had to settle for the "braveheart" look instead...

SJ><<Entertainment News: Here's something really weird but potentially really cool....apparently, there's now talk of a LIVE-ACTION Tick series. >> o_O You GOT to be kidding...

That's that for tonight... Gotta get to bed by midnight. See 'ya round, everybody! :D
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 12:38:38 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.226.253.dallas1.level3.net

Hello to all. Nothing much to post again, but please pray that I pass my three tests tomorrow! PLEASE! Goodnight my brothers and sister.
SOROW
Tuesday, December 7, 1999 12:35:31 AM
IP: dll2a010-0326.splitrock.net

Darth Maul Beanie Babie> Thought that'd get everyone's attention. :) I encountered several of these...things...in the local Babbages/Software Etc, alongside beanies of Jar Jar (oh the horror), Qui-Gon, Watto, and Obi-Wan (and now I know what to get Christine for the holidays ;D ). They weren't actual official Ty beanies; they were part of the Star Wars Buddies (or something to that effect) plushie series, who I think has done beanies of C-3P0, R2-D2, Max Rebo, Jabba the Hutt, a Wampa, Chewie, etc. The Maul beanie was chillingly realistic, moreso than the others. Basically an SD version of the real thing. It was like Maul had created a Mini-Me, just in case...

SJ> <<"What the hell was that thing that kept going 'Pi, pi, pi ka choo?'">> ROTFL!!! :D <<When I become the benevolent dictator of this great nation, things will be *much* easier! ;) ;p >> You're also taking over the world? :) Hee hee...when I've taken over, I think I'll get Danny Elfman to write the new national anthem...

Jewel> <<You know what's scary? I went out with my brother and sister-in-law yesterday, and saw a billboard: "Y2K Gun show! Preparedness! Survival Skills! Guns!" I kid you not.>> That's even more frightening than something I saw at a department store. There was a display of rather nice candles, different colors, shapes, etc. Which was spoiled by a sign affixed to the shelves, "Be Prepared For Y2K". O_o

Jaden> Glad you're feeling better. ^_^ <<Well I'd like to respond to any post that I missed while I was gone, but last weeks posts seems to have disappeared. So could someone tell me what's going on!>> Well, I reposted my last post of last week, if that helps. ^_^

Warpmind> <<What The F*ck Dot Com happened to last week's CR?>> ...Dot Com? <hehe> I'll have to remember that one...

Coyote> <<I have no idea why it was just *this* CR that went down (the other S8 rooms were working fine all day yesterday.).>> Hmm...I did notice that this CR and not the main one led to a blank HTML file, just a few hours before *both* were wiped...odd...

Aaron> Theory> You know...that sounds altogether too likely...Almost as scary as a thought I had earlier...Compare Toy Story and Small Soldiers, then compare A Bug's Life and Antz. Both incorporate basically the same concepts (living toys and a threatened ant colony), but the latter movies in both cases had far superior plots, scripts, characters, and music (IMHO anyway). Small Soldiers and Antz are both by Dreamworks, and Toy Story and A Bug's Life are from Disney. Now, what follows is speculation, but if I'm not mistaken, Antz and A Bug's Life came out at about the same time, no? But it wouldn't surprise me if the two Disney movies did better at the box office than the two Dreamworks movies. HMM.

Fire Storm> <<You use text only, but you post with a picture?>> Odd, aren't I. ;) I use text-only mostly because it loads much faster than the full version, although I figured I may as well find an appropriate pic for those who do use the full room. ^_^

Kitainia> <<Why haven't there been more of these?>> You know...a trial for DC has been running through my head for over a week now, and I now have an excuse to use it. >:)
**DC TRIAL**

[Jake from Wilek's ficverse carries DC by the scruff of the neck (and tied up with duct tape) into what looks like a cross between a courtroom and an unholy chapel. For some bizarre reason, the most disturbing paintings and sculptures by H.R. Giger are set up everywhere, and Giger himself (among other disturbed individuals) is in the jury. Of course, this scares DC to no end. Wilek, in black sash and loincloth rather than the usual khaki shorts, steps up to the podium; the fact that the blue gargoyle is the judge sends Mr. Disconnect into fits of soul-shattering despair. To DC's further horror, Pinhead appears to be the prosecuting attorney. DC: "Don't I have the right to legal counsel?" Wilek: "No. Now sit down and shut up so I can sentence you. Prosecution, the evidence, please?" Pinhead presents the server logs at the time of the shutdown. "Exhibit A. These were recorded earlier this week on the s8.org Internet server. They clearly show signs of an attack by the defendant, for the specific purpose of undermining the stability of the comment rooms. Exhibit B: Eyewitness accounts of the comment rooms' disappearance." Wilek: "I was informed there was a second charge against the defendant?" Pinhead: "Indeed: That of causing the Quake III demo program to shut down with an Open_GL error...what*ever* that is...immediately upon activation on Your Honor's personal computer system, after a week-long download. Exhibit C: the game engine console logs." Wilek: "I see. Jury?" Various CR Dwellers: "Kill 'im! <and very eloquent elaborations thereupon>" Forfexx: "I think I'll use his skull as a planter..." Hannibal Lecter: "<slurpity-slurp> I can think of a few recipes..." Dr. Sevarius: "I'll try my latest mutagenic formulae..." Wilek: <thinks for a while> "I have made my decision. <gestures at the paintings and sculptures> Look, DC, upon the beautiful nightmares, the twisted, frightening, evil creatures leering at you from the deepest recesses of the human soul...and prepare to spend the rest of your life among them. Mr. Disconnect...I hereby sentence you to live inside H.R. Giger's mind!" DC: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! <sob>"]

**END**
Got the idea for that one after paging through a copy of Giger's Necronomicon. I love his work, but after seeing exactly what goes on in his mind, I can honestly say that DC's punishment here is as good a description of Hell as any I've seen. >;)

Dungeons And Dragons fans> Speaking of Hell, I was at Waldenbooks today, and what did I trip over but a D&D guide to Hell. :) Almost bought it, except for the fact that about half of it was printed upside down and out of order. Um... o_o' OK...And the front was adorned with, what else, a VERY gargoid *demon*. Great, a Quarryman has snuck into the company's advertising department. >:(

Michael Heitz> Glad to see you're not letting a few idiots stifle your creativity. :) <<if there is interest, I could get a new strip for the next Avlaon mists...got a certain idea, a training camp for the gargoyles villains, maybe somewhat "Police Academy" like, with a training seargant like in "full metal jacket" (with Oberon being a fairy, he would probably be the one to be named "Private Paula", I think:))...could be called "Villain academy", already got some ideas...>> Ooh...sounds interesting, hehe! :D

Deuce> <<I'm at home with the flu which completely destroyed all plans for my LONG WEEKEND (no school Friday for some teacher thing), and although I had almost all night Friday on the computer, DenCity was down! *screams and does hideous things to SS's and DC's corpses*>> ACK! :( Get well soon, friend. <<"Darth Maul Body Wash". Really. It's a black bottle with a plastic DM head on it. I shudden to think what that would do to your skin....>> Oi...although the whole red-stripes look might not be so bad. ;)

Jewel> <<I don't even want to htink about the many unspeakable things people would do to this thign if it got made...>> I'm thinking of buying one just to have a Fey bring it to life and let me use it as a guinea pig for DC death experiments... "Mini-Meesa no wanten crunchen!" Hehe.

Pistoff> <<One thing that has me especially pissed is...well, there was a woman I had _thought_ was interested in me--but it turned out to be nothing more than a joke. She was having some fun at my expense. Well, I hope she's satisfied.>> Oh...dear...gawdz...THIS CHICK IS TOAST. Nobody, but NOBODY plays with the heart of any friend of mine and dares to think she'll get away with it. >:( <<I just found out that my buddy Denis, who's been doing outlines for my fanfic series, just had his internet service disconnected by his dad. Turns out he ran up a rather hefty phone bill. I don't know how long this will last or whether Denis will be able to email his outlines from a friend's house or what...but until I find out one way or another, Gargoyles 2K is on hold.>> Awww, *man*. :( That stinks more than I can possibly describe...Mr. Lee death> And *that* is *cooler* than I can possibly describe. >;) <<I think Disney needs to be added to the Joyride hit list, from Eisner on down. Time for a purge.>> I'm going to assign the phrase "I love the way your mind works" to a keyboard macro for occasions like this. Indeed, the time has come to rid Disney of the stagnation and corruption that has overgrown it ever since...well, probably since Greg left, if not before. From fire and darkness will animation be reborn. MuhahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Gside> $<<I have a couple questions about the Avatar (I would not mind just a link): What is its crew capacity (to the closest multiple of a power of ten (k*10^x))? Also, who owns it/with what faction is it aligned?>> Um...I have no clue about the crew capacity, but I'd wager it's in the tens or hundreds of thousands. Most of them not human, either. Its faction is the Men In Black (from the movie and animated series), who are the good guys. :) An alien confederation called the Nation Of Worlds helped fund its construction (basically bought out Sienar Fleet Systems and Kuat Drive Yards and gave them to the MIB); in return, they were allowed to have some influence in the command hierarchy (the second in command is a Nation citizen).$ <<is the right angle bracket > for referring to people and colon for referring to topics, or is it the other way around?>> Um...I use the right bracket for both, some use the colon for both, others use other things in other ways...it's entirely up to the individual person. :)
Wilek Nereus
Monday, December 6, 1999 11:51:16 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Quickie before I return to paper number four. (The Health paper was turned in this morning.)

Christine> <<I sent out 8 agent queries yesterday, re: Black Roses, and most of them promise a reply in 2-3 weeks,
so I can look forward to getting rejected half a dozen times before Christmas ... ; )>> Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way... I certainly hope so! **crosses fingers** Good luck!

Deuce> <<It will be loved by all. Trust me. It's a terrific piece of work. :-) >> Thanks. Get better, you hear?

Pistoff re: that woman> She did WHAT? What kind of sick person would pull that kind of crap? I don't understand people who toy with others' feelings for "fun"... their own sad little lives must be pathetic if they get a charge out of that.

Michael Heitz> Good to hear you're not quitting after all.

Well, I just finally managed to herd a couple of friends out of my room... we spent an hour and a half talking about cartoons when we all had papers to do. But before that, someone in my hall found a pic I'd been looking for forever. It's a photo someone took of me during opening night of "Jane Eyre" - I was down in the dressing room in full costume, waiting through my six-scene break before I had to go on again at the end. I thought the resulting pic was kind of funny. Click my name to see for yourself.
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 11:30:44 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

DANGER WILL ROBINSON!! ANGEL SPOILERS!!!

Several friends of ine have been discussing (more likely dissecting) the last Angel ep. One of the things they noticed was that blue flash that occured when Doyle kissed Cordeila. It seems the reigning theory is that Cordy has been given the gift (or curse) of precognition that Doyle had. Makes sense to me seeing how they need to keep that element in the show to allow a lot of the storytelling...
Oh boy, is Cordelia gonna be whinnier than ever now that she has to deal with the premonitions...
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, December 6, 1999 11:18:57 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-28.ultravision.net

Mononoke Hime: I feel I must relate a small excerpt from a local paper: they were writing a minor article on Mononoke Hime, and they interviewed a Disney employee (VP?). This person they were trying to gradually introduce anime to the US: first they released Kiki's Delivery Service only on video, then a limited release of Mononoke Hime, with the future wide open. I leave it up to you whether or not to believe him.

$I have a couple questions about the Avatar (I would not mind just a link): What is its crew capacity (to the closest multiple of a power of ten (k*10^x))? Also, who owns it/with what faction is it aligned?$

Det. Stoff> Joyride: Have you ever read either Marlowe's "Edward II" or Chaucer's "Miller's Tale"?
Mind Games: My sympathies, but then, I am personaly of the mind now that I don't think I could take someone seriously who takes me seriously.

I've gone and got myself confused is the right angle bracket > for referring to people and colon for referring to topics, or is it the other way around?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Monday, December 6, 1999 11:07:41 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Darth Maul Beanie > ooh, really? That could be fun ... do they have an Obi-Wan? ; )

Michael > another one? Twice as long? ::hyperventilates:: I can hardly wait! As for page limit, I don't think we need to worry about it. So far, Chris Rogers hasn't given me any warnings that we've exceeded the available space. So by all means, please, I'd love to include them! Your cartoons are one of my favorite parts of AvMists.

New on my site -- Dirce's version of Jericho and the Amazons.
Also posted handy links to all my holiday-themed stories thus far, including two poems that were our Xmas cards in years past, "A Gargoyles Christmas Special," and Solarrin as Scrooge in "A Wintersfest Carol."
Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Off-topic book news > I sent out 8 agent queries yesterday, re: Black Roses, and most of them promise a reply in 2-3 weeks, so I can look forward to getting rejected half a dozen times before Christmas ... ; )

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 10:53:45 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

***BEGIN RP***
In the Avatar...

Sevarius Jr. couldn't rest. He tossed and turned on his bed in his private room, but he somehow felt...odd. Like his body was not his own. Finally restless and beyond the need of sleep, he got up, got dressed, and decided to take a walk through the station to clear his head.
He wandered in silence throughout the station, passing by Borg drones without acknowledging their presence. There was something he felt he should be remembering, something he knew he should know...but whatever the thought was, it was lost somewhere in his brain, and he couldn't quite figure it out. He was so preoccupied with his conflicting thoughts that he didn't realize which portion of the station he had wandered into. He had made it back to the medical ward. He turned down a corridor--
--and saw at the other end a rather naked young man sporting a very large....sword.
"Oh, um," SJ said quickly, averting his eyes. "Sorry, didn't know this hallway as occupied. I'll just be leaving now--"
The naked man stopped. "YOU!" he shouted, pointing at SJ.
"Me?"
"Infernal!!!" the young man shouted, and raising his sword, began to charge towards SJ.
"Inf--what?" But he didn't stop for the man to clarify. He did what anyone does when they're suddenly accosted by a naked man wielding a sword--he ran as fast as he could in the other direction.
***PAUSE RP***

**SJ walks into the CR humming Nine Inch Nails' "Into the Void"** Trying to save myself buy myself keeps slipping away....good evening all! Good to see we're all back after the CR had a nice little coronary over the weekend. Those are beginning to get a little too regular if you ask me. I may have to sodomize DC with a rusty butcher knife if this keeps up.

Entertainment News: Here's something really weird but potentially really cool....apparently, there's now talk of a LIVE-ACTION Tick series. Can you imagine that? Tick in RL? Who the heck could they find with a large enough chin? Jay Leno perhaps? Could be immensely cool if it plays out. The Tick was one of the most underrated toons ever made, it deserves another shot at the big time.

Pistoff: Grrr....that ticks me off about that woman. Just playing with you, huh? Screw her, then. YOU deserve better than that bitch. May she suffer the intense pain and discomfort of one of them long, lingering, but non-lethal STDs.
Real bummer to here about Denis, too. I'm pulling for him, cause the two of you make a killer team. If things do get pushed back with G2K, however, I'll still be first in line to check out your other stuff. Vacuum Riders kicked ass, my friend! :)

Jewel: I think you got me confused with Green Baron in the question as to what Democrats have done for Blacks lately. Personally, all political affiliation aside, I don't really think EITHER side has done enough for them. That's the unfortunate fact. And I wouldn't really be surprised if I saw a nice, lily white Democrat, friend to the minority, clutch their purse a little tighter or jump out of an elevator when they saw an African-American walk by.
But that was not my point. I don't care if the majority of African Americans want to be Democrats. That's their choice. I'm just a bit disturbed that the Democrats won't respect the decision of some blacks to choose another party. In reality, though, I think it has less to do with race and more to do with politics. Perhaps the one group doesn't want anyone to go over to the other group, so therefore they have to resort to words like "sellout" or "Uncle Tom". *sigh* Politics also makes me crazy...they make everyone crazy, which is why it's so screwy. God must have been drunk one night, and thought "Hey, I've got it--a way for humans to govern themselves AND go completely loco at the same time!" ;)
As for that Y2K gun show....sheesh. I'll be hiding in my basement come Dec 31st. I'm not afraid of the world itself ending--I'm afraid of all the other nutjobs out there who think it will!

Princess Mononoke: Good points by both Aaron and Scott.
I believe that Aaron is right in a sense. Disney has much more to gain in continuing to make the same old kiddie fluff it's been making for years than in making intelligent, thought-provoking mature animation. Why make a masterpiece like Mononoke when we can spend all that time on saccharine powder-puff pieces like Toy Story 2? Hell, we can't stick the Princess on a Burger King cup can we? What are kids gonna want more of, an Eiboshi (sp?) happy meal or tons of Buzz Lightyear dolls? They do have a monopoly on kids animation. Even Dreamworks, which is their only real rival, has somewhat fallen flat so far. Their animated ventures have not faired as well (even when they deserved to--such as the case with the Iron Giant--bad promotion hasn't helped much). So yes, in a sense, Disney would be much more interested in making crap like Toy Story 3 or Lion King 18 instead of Mononoke.
Scott has somewhat of a good point as well. The American public is not ready for films like Mononoke. The majority views animation as nothing more than kid stuff--and this belief is no doubt perpetuated by Disney itself. So no, Mononoke would not have been a very big commercial film. But then again, the majority doesn't exactly go for independent films either, yet the Blair Witch Project raked in about 150 million bucks.
I do not think, however, that the American public is *totally* against the idea of an "adult" cartoon. Take the Simpsons for instance--it's been on and going strong for 10 years now, and anyone who has seen the show know it's certainly not for the kids. The success of South Park (even though it is not what it once was) is another testament to the fact that adults can enjoy animation--as long as it's not force-fed saccharine generic crap like the drivel Disney puts out these days.

Mandi: Yeah, my mom's pretty cool for...well, for a mom, I guess. She really does have a tremendous sense of humor. She does know all about Pokemon...just in true parent fashion, she has no clue as to why the little buggers are so popular with the youth of today. ;)

***RESUME RP***
On the Avatar...

In a deep sub-basement of the Avatar, a bright red circle began to glow on the floor. With a crack of thunder and a flash of lightning, the circle was engulfed suddenly in flames. The acrid stench of brimstone filled the air, as the flames grew larger....until the Avatar's automated fire-fighting systems went online and showered the area with water, putting the fire out and drenching the lone inhabitant of the circle, a small, ugly, black-as-nighmares little thing with leathern wings and fangs and claws and a rather unhappy demeanor.
"Wonderful," Dyspare the demon moaned. "Not only do I have to find Sammael and convince him he's really a demon...but I have to do it soaking wet!"
***TO BE CONTINUED***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 10:37:59 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**immediately upon entry, grabs his candlestick from the table and gives it to Jannie, leading her to the big comfy chair**

Here ... I know exactly what's goin' on, and how you're probably feeling. **hugs** Take the candlestick and the chair ... I need them no longer.

Aaron: First, answering your questions:
1) Yes, Gillian Anderson was Maro.
2) The ruler of Irontown is Lady Eboshi.
3) Minnie Driver's voice sounds very different when she's not in "British-high-pitched-airhead" mode, that's why Lady Eboshi sounded like Marina Sirtis at the start. For that matter, the entire movie that certainly didn't sound like the same woman who gushed "I was SAVED by a flying WILD MAN in a LOINCLOTH!" in Tarzan.
Interesting comment about Disney setting up Mononoke to fail ... but you also have to consider something else: Disney has an exclusive distribution deal with Mononoke's production company, which gives Disney control of the top three major animation houses in the industry (the other two being Disney Feature Animation and Pixar). They want to make it clear ... it's *our* house, it's *our* rules.
Of course, they won't be prepared when the rest of the industry tells 'em to take their house and rules and shove 'em.
Then again ... Disney's kind of doing that themselves with the upcoming "Fantasia 2000" ... considering that F2000 is an IMAX animated feature ...

Fire Storm: Okay, I've got no problem with the snow and the wetness on the road. The problem *I've* got is when I have to deal with the Caddy stallin' out *12 TIMES* before I can get moving even 20 feet!! :P

Michael Heitz: Oh, believe me ... at least from where I am, there's interest. :)

Mara: And ya should feel loved ... we all love ya! :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, December 6, 1999 10:28:48 PM
IP: zzz-209252248150.splitrock.net

Darth Maul Body Wash> WARNING! continued usage of this product could lead to pigmentation of the skin that makes you look like a checkerboard on acid
shogun raptor
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:53:22 PM
IP: user-38ldeen.dialup.mindspring.com

Mara> if you wouldn't mind emailing me where you live, I can check to see if any of my friends from Mini Clan are driving past you and maybe you can hitch a ride with one of them! They are all great people and lots of fun to be around :)

Pisty> *sighs* I guess we're the 2 Amigos, the 2 Stooges, the 2 Muskateers until my beloved mate gets back, huh? *sniffles* *twirls pointer finger in the air* yeah, Merry Christmas =( damn... this season is hard enough, you know? I'm grateful that I still have you though *bear hugs* btw, icq is still messing up for me so I sent you an email. See you later, my dear friend.

*wipes tear and quietly leaves*
Jannie - [jgmiller@teacher.esc4.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:38:34 PM
IP: 168-171-196-227.academicplanet.com

Hi guys!
Yay I'm back!

(<===testing out some images I'm curious about)

I've been gone for a whole week because our computer got sick for some reason and we weren't allowed into the Internet or any files. But on Sunday my dad restarted the computer incesstantly three times and it began working again! It had something to do with the colors on our computer not being right. I managed to stop by yesterday and peeked into the comment room before going to church (and I'm thankful for doing that since last week's CR got erased!). Ack, I'm so happy to be back--Lexy, how could you last that long without getting overly bored??? I ended up having to watch FRIENDS six times because of DC!

***BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS!!!***
Buffy: I laughed so hard during this episode! Buffy/Spike relationship was hilarious and the whole "demon magnet" and other oddities that went on made my bored day brighten up a bit. I may have felt overly sorry for Willow because of what that badboy Oz did--hurt her twice! And Willow's my second fav person so I don't like Oz anymore, unless he does some major sucking up if he ever gets back on the show.
Overall, this one was really good-8/10.
Angel: Ack! Just when I was in a good mood, I was again bawling for the sake of Doyle. The Scourge were totally cheesy with their Nazi attitude and their Nazi outfits and their Nazi intentions. To look on the bright side, at least they didn't dress in drag (sorry, had to say that).... But what was really heartwrenching was the fact that Cordy actually accepted him as a demon and kissed him. Her, the prissy PREPPIE type who thinks demons are very disgusting--ack, I wonder what's going to go on the next show. What were the producers of Angel thinking when they hired the guy for Doyle knowing that he was going to quit, knowing that everybody would grow attached to the character??? Ah, I give up. Overall, it was kind of dumb but well enough made episode--6/10.
***END SPOILERS!!!***

Lexy> <<WHY? Why is Lex a lil naughty?>> Whoo boy what do you mean by "naughty"? Relationship-wise, the Lex in my up-coming fanfic has at least three loves of his life and each of these affairs last at least...either a month to a year. But he's not really that naughty when it comes to that stuff, at least not in my ficverse because he depends on love and trust more then betrayal (during the first four years or so). Oh-oh, as for being naughty in troublemaking *makes face* yeesh, I'm making a fanfic leading to Future Tense--need I say more? As for how Lex became that murderous megalomaniac we saw in Future Tense...uh...I'll get to the root of that later....

Pistoff & Mara> I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmothers, and my condolesences go to both of you and anybody else suffering from a recent tragedy *hugs*

Princess Monoke (sp?)> I want to see this movie but they're not playing it around here anymore and at the time they were showing it I didn't have any money to spend *grr* *mutters* Lousy baby-sitting checks *calms down* Ah well, it'll be on video and it better be on DVD too. I can't wait to hear David Keith's voice again! ^_^

Michael Heitz> *sighs, relieved* Thanks for not quiting--I can hardly wait for your next issue! :)

Jaden> Glad to hear you're feeling better!

Snow> Ack, we've only had one snow around here and it melted in less then three hours! For crying out loud, we're all ready decorating our tree and the only snow I've seen is frost during the morning, and then that melts away later. I don't like snow all that much, only for Christmas and then I wish for it to melt away because after awhile snows not fun anymore, just cold chunks of ice. But I'm all jittery for Christmas/New Year, how bout the rest of you?

Anyway, got to get to school. Night everyone!

Anne
MN, USA
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:36:59 PM
IP: 204-246-241-31.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Last post was addressed to Pissy. Oops.
Deuce
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:29:32 PM
IP: ts1375.connect.ab.ca

Sorry to hear about that woman... *hugs* I've dealt with that before. How can people be so careless with another human being's _heart_? It boggles my mind the things people to do each other for "fun". ["Darth Maul...body wash? oh god... Hope you get well soon. :)"] You know, if someone didn't know I was sick, that would sound REAL bad. *laughs, thinks about it more, and laughs harder*
Simon*Deuce
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:02:43 PM
IP: ppp0173.connect.ab.ca

<--Hmm, let's see what this one looks like...you can tell I haven't done this very often... ;)

Oh gawd, what a week. On top of the whole situation with my grandmother, there's been a ton of other crap hitting the fan. One thing that has me especially pissed is...well, there was a woman I had _thought_ was interested in me--but it turned out to be nothing more than a joke. She was having some fun at my expense. Well, I hope she's satisfied.

Christ. I hate pranksters.

And in addition to that, I just found out that my buddy Denis, who's been doing outlines for my fanfic series, just had his internet service disconnected by his dad. Turns out he ran up a rather hefty phone bill. I don't know how long this will last or whether Denis will be able to email his outlines from a friend's house or what...but until I find out one way or another, Gargoyles 2K is on hold. Denis' input is crucial to the story arc that's been worked out, and it can't proceed without him, so I'm left flapping in the wind, here. If it turns out that Denis won't be able to have any more contact with me or his other net friends, I'll have to scrap the story arc and start over pretty much from scratch. In the meantime, I'm still working on the first episode of "Rising Sun," my series that focuses on Vinnie and Sora, and if the Gargs 2K storyline has to be scrapped, I may just go ahead with "Vacuum Riders" while I'm picking up the pieces for G2K....

Anyway, I didn't even have time to make a post last week--and when I finally do get a chance, I can't get into last week's CR. So I'll just do this by memory and my apologies to anyone I leave out....

Mara: I wish I'd had time to say this sooner. My most sincere condolences on the loss of your grandmother. Feel free to drop me an email if you ever need to talk... *hugs*

Skippy: "Trekkies" etc.> What freaked me out about this is the way people take it too far. Like that woman on the jury...either that was a really creative way to avoid jury duty, or there's something seriously wrong with her. Dressing up in costumes for Halloween, parties, conventions, fun things like that, is fine. But if I ever need a bullet removed from my shoulder and a doctor wearing a Star Trek costume walks up to me, I swear I will dig the bullet out with my own fingers before I let that sumbitch get anywhere near me. ;)

Well, I was planning to Joyride Mr. Lee for Jessie, but since last week's CR is gone, I don't know if there were any Joyride segments posted. So, to avoid screwing up the continuity, I'll take a different approach....

**WARNING! A LITTLE RP ULTRA-VIOLENCE AHEAD =D**

"Hmm...might need a little help with this." Pistoff snaps his fingers and an eight-foot-tall, musclebound gargoyle chick appears and looks around. "Ah, Boiler, you'll be perfect for this one."

"What the hell do you want? I'm busy."

"Trust me, you'll like this one." Pistoff waves at an old Chinese pervert named Mr. Lee, who is still harassing one of his friends. Mr. Lee is hogtied and on the floor next to him is a broomstick. "This guy keeps calling Jessie and making lewd comments. The guy's a real sicko. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a child molester. Probably a member of NAMBLA."

"NAMBLA?!" Boiler flexes her arms and cracks her knuckles. Her bulging muscles are like steel belts running under her purple skin.

"It's time for him to pay."

"Let me at 'im!!!" Boiler grabs Mr. Lee and tears his ropes off. "It's so much more fun when they struggle." She picks up the broomstick. "I'm sure you enjoy pitching. Let's see how you like CATCHING!"

She goes to work, and Pistoff stands by, nodding, very impressed with Boiler's technique and reveling in the pervert's screams--which are suddenly cut off by a sickening, wet CRUNCH! Pistoff raises his eyebrows.

"Hmm...looks like you pushed a little too hard. I don't thing the end of the stick was supposed to punch through the top of his skull."

"Oops. Well, accidents happen."

"True, true. Still, very nice work, Boiler. Thank you."

"My pleasure. Can I go now? As I said, I'm busy."

"Certainly." Pistoff snaps his fingers and Boiler and Mr. Lee's remains vanish, whisked back to their respective points of origin. Pistoff bows, then resumes his post....

**REVENGE OVER**

Send-Mara-to-G2K-fund: Count me in. :) I can't afford much, but I'll do what I can. Possibly ten bucks...or five if I have to buy gas or food within the next few days... ;)

Tim: Love that PC-terms list. ROTFLMAO! It reminds me of a lot of George Carlin's material on the same subject. For instance, the condition once known as "shellshock" is now called "post-traumatic stress disorder." He also summed it up fairly well when he said, "I think 'chairman' _ought_ to be 'chairperson.' I think 'spokesman' _ought_ to be 'spokesperson.' But when they want me to call that thing in the street a 'personhole cover,' I think that's going too far!" And later he said, "If things keep going the way they are, there will no longer be any rape victims. They will be...'unwilling sperm recipients'!" ;) Oh, and the one about the Pimpmobile reminded me of my car. For some reason, when I bought it, one of my shift managers called it the Pimpwagon. It's an '85 Thunderbird...don't know why it would be called the Pimpwagon...but it kinda has a nice ring to it... ^_^

Wilek: A...Darth Maul beanie baby? Oh gawd! The horror! the horror!

SJ: Your mom hated the Pokémon movie, eh? I like her already... *g*

Jaden: Welcome back! Glad you're feeling better. :D

Lexy: Welcome back to you, too! :D

Aaron: Love your idea for Toy Story 3. LMAO!! That would be better than whatever the movie actually turns out to be. Better than that plus the first two combined, actually. :D And I agree 100 percent with your theory about Disney and Princess Mononoke. I think you're dead-on with that one. *sigh* Though Scott made a good point--the majority of adults just don't go for this kind of thing. That's why Gargoyles was dumbed down in its third season, which guaranteed its cancellation, so Disney could just keep putting out more and more drivel. I do agree that Disney deliberately screwed up both gargs and Mononoke because they just don't have the balls to do this kind of stuff. I think Disney needs to be added to the Joyride hit list, from Eisner on down. Time for a purge. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Kitania: If it's formulaic, it's because it was just a glimpse of a larger story. I have most of the plot worked out for the first ep, but was only able to include the bit at the beginning that focused on Demona, since that was the nature of the challenge listed in the guidelines, and also for the sake of keeping it as short as possible. The actual story, once it's posted, will include scenes aboard the Mary Jane, which is where Graeme will show up :), and scenes after the incident shown in AvMists, and an extended plot dealing with Senator Nathans which ends in a nifty cliffhanger... ;) Glad you liked the eviscerated version anyway. *g* Jar Jar beanie baby> Oh please god NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! *L*

Deuce: Darth Maul...body wash? oh god... Hope you get well soon. :)

Jewel: Congrats on the new job! I'm glad it looks promising. :D <<Jar Jar as beenie baby: I don't even want to htink about the many unspeakable things people would do to this thign if it got made...>> I'm thinking of a few right now... =) As far as politics go, I've begun to look at it as nothing more than entertainment. Nothing changes, no matter who is in office. As Jello Biafra once said, "The Democrats are on the inside what the Republicans are on the outside, each having almost identical financial backers to grease all the appropriate orifices and holes." ;)

And since we're talking about politics, I'll leave you all with the following quote...

"Pennsylvania Avenue is the shortest distance between two jokes." --Mark Russel
Pistoff - [phred@koalas.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 07:54:58 PM
IP: wire-15.koalas.com

STORMY - Best wishes on your non-gargoyle Wagner stories! Based on what I've read about Wagner in your work (particularly "Black Wings Passed Over"), I think that he can easily become an effective character in his own right.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, December 6, 1999 06:46:54 PM
IP: 216.87.46.58.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hey, all. Back from my first day at work. <g> I work as a telephone computer tech support person...and discovered when I got there that my computer hadn't arrived yet and the phone jack hadn't been set up. Eh, well--my computer arrives tomorrow. And any job I can wear *jeans* to and get paid enough to be firmly middle class makes me quite happy. =)

SJ: Not to beat politics to death (I'll save that for the politicians), but you were wondering what Democarats have done for Blacks to grant them so many still being loyal to them: not a whole heck of a lot since the 50's and 60's. But the view is that they beat the alternative. Personally, I used to be a yellow-dog Democrat (would vote for a dead yellow dog over a Republican) but now party politics has me so nauseous I'd like to boot everyone out of office and start all over again...although the CLinton fiasco of last year almost had me return to my yellow dog roots in disgust with the way the Republicans in the House were acting. And as for I've only read a few things Keyes has said, mainly secondhand from salon.com (they had a really intersting article a few days ago about Jewish Republicans), so I can't form an opinion. However, I quite firmly beleive that the only reason GW Bush has gotten anywhere is because of Daddy. That man makes Quayle look like a rocket scientist.

Jar Jar as beenie baby: I don't even want to htink about the many unspeakable things people would do to this thign if it got made...
jewel
Monday, December 6, 1999 06:33:37 PM
IP: atlnb302-36.splitrock.net

Send Mara to G2K Fund: Good idea, Baron. How much do you think she'll need? Doug and I probably won't be going next year, so we may be able to give her some support. <grimaces, realizing how that sounds> Hope she gets the money and is able to enjoy the Gathering, same to the rest of you who are going. I'll say no more on this.

**sits under a large sign that states

"Send Mara to G2k Fund
_Will NOT sing for money_"

A passerby... uh... passes by and pulls out a five dollar bill, stuffing it into a large empty coffee can. "Here ya go lady, just dont sing, please!!! DONT SING!"**

Hee he.. And thanks in advance, I really want to go. I have to get in contact with someone to see how i can get there (as cheaply as possible) :)(feels so loved)
Mara Cordova
Monday, December 6, 1999 06:27:11 PM
IP: spider-wa011.proxy.aol.com

** Deuce walks in holding a massive sickle. He decapitates Sli Sludge with it, and tosses it across the room, where it goes through Dis Connect's eye and out the back of his head. **

That makes TWO non-human bastards that screwed up my weekend. I'm at home with the flu which completely destroyed all plans for my LONG WEEKEND (no school Friday for some teacher thing), and although I had almost all night Friday on the computer, DenCity was down! *screams and does hideous things to SS's and DC's corpses*

Mandi re: your upcoming episode> Hey, I've read it (yes, I keep up with TGS, even though I seem invisible during discussion). It will be loved by all. Trust me. It's a terrific piece of work. :-)

Darth Maul Beanie Baby: Not half as disturbing as what I saw: "Darth Maul Body Wash". Really. It's a black bottle with a plastic DM head on it. I shudden to think what that would do to your skin....

X-Files last night: Bravo! Bravo! Superb! Don't want to bother with spoilers, so I'll just say that I loved every second of it (not as much as "Millennium" or "The Hunger", but still excellent) and I hope next week's is as good. My favourite parts were Scully doing her cute little pout.

Fire Storm> ["There is only one temperature that is the same in C and F. Whats that temperature?"] -40º. Sorry about your snow. :-(

Hey, regarding the previews to the Pokémon movie: y'all noticed the song playing behind the first part of the Tigger preview, eh? "Semi-Charmed Life"? That delightful ode to oral sex and crystal methamphetamine? How inappropriate is that? (They were only playing the opening bridge, but still....)

Lexy's back? Whoo-hoo! *hugs* We've missed you!

Tim re: PC> Stop! STOP! If I laugh too hard, I throw up! *pause* Uh-oh. *runs out of room, and then comes back* Damn flu.

Aaron> ["I still like my idea for TS3, where Woody, Buzz, and the rest of them get their butts kicked by Chip Hazzard and the Commando Elite."] That makes (at least) two of us. ROTFLMAO!

N-E-way... I've gotta get out of here before my mom gets back. She thinks I'm too sick to get out of bed. Almost... but not quite. TTYL!

** Deuce runs out, pouring molten ballpoint pen ink on Sli and Dis as he passes. **
Simon*Deuce
Monday, December 6, 1999 04:13:32 PM
IP: jts2-107.connect.ab.ca

PRINCESS MONONOKE: Never came out in my area, so I guess i have to wait for the video.

I wouldn't go so far as to say Disney WANTED this movie to fail. Why bother making the friggin' thing at all if you WANT it to fail? Disney is a company and companies are in the business of making money. The idea of NOT making money is stupid, and WASTING money is even stupider.

In my opinion, Disney limited the advertising and release because they weren't sure what the market for that sort of thing was. They wanted to "test the waters" first. Spending a lot of money on ads and nationwide release only to have it flop would be dumb--so they decided to cut their losses (if it flopped) and give it a trial run.

It's going to be a matter of changing most ppl's attitudes towards animation. How many ppl don't respect YOUR interest in Gargoyles? And I'm having an even harder time with Transformers, most ppl reply to me with "Yeah, I was into Transformers too...when I was six." (Any money they've never seen beast Machines...)

On Beast Machines:

Since I'm in Canada, I get to see the new episode (the Catalyst"--the one that supposedly reveals who Jetstorm's spark is) on Wednesday night. The main Gargoyles CR is asking me to spoiler it. I'm not going to spoiler it in HERE, but if anyone really WANTS the spoiler, check the main CR on Wednesday night around 8 or 9 p.m.

KITANIA: Wow. I'm floored. It really makes me feel good to think that Wagner's made THAT much of an impression that he has his own image file on your computer. I'm actually in the preliminary process of separating Wagner from the Gargoyles universe (don't worry, I'll keep writing Gargoyles fanfic with Wags in it) but of starting my own series of short stories & novels with him as a leading character (Granted, he's not a gargoyle any more, but he's very much the same...) It means a lot to me, at this point, to have people who believe that this character is strong enough to become something on his own.

And I have a similar file of Whitbourne pics :-)
Stormy
Monday, December 6, 1999 04:06:50 PM
IP: pc24.huron.uwo.ca

I read the Dark Ages stories last Friday. Nice job writers. ^_^. I'm not gonna spoil anything so I'll just go on to my next topic in this post. I went to see Sleepy Hollow the movie on Saturday. It was very different from the book just a tad. For instance in book Ikabob Crane is a school teacher. In the movie he's a new york city constable. I like how the Scream rules of a horror flick proved true. But I spoil the most with this one phrase: It was the stepmother.
James Birdsong - [<- site under construction :P/:D]
San Diego, California, USA
Monday, December 6, 1999 03:41:54 PM
IP: dt040nd1.san.rr.com

Don't know exactly who to adress, for last week's comment room seems unavailable and I don't know every phrase by heart, but for those giving me support>You were probably right, if there are some *cencored* just seeking trouble, I shouldn't take my cartoons back and punish those who like them (would be the wrong ones)...if there is interest, I could get a new strip for the next Avlaon mists...got a certain idea, a training camp for the gargoyles villains, maybe somewhat "Police Academy" like, with a training seargant like in "full metal jacket" (with Oberon being a fairy, he would probably be the one to be named "Private Paula", I think:))...could be called "Villain academy", already got some ideas...
Chrsitine>I would just need to know how much pages could be published in Avalon mists, for this one could possibly double the length of "a night in a gargoyles life"...
PS: Thanks to all those supporting me...and there is another thing I feel the need to put straight...though these hate mails all came from the American fandom (as far as I could tell), I didn't want to say at any time that I consider all American Gargoyles Fans to be that way (would be sorry if someone got that impression), I just thought if getting in contact with the American Fandom would attract the attention of people like these sending me those hate mails, I just thought maybe it's better to stay away from places where I could get into trouble...
Michael Heitz
Monday, December 6, 1999 02:35:26 PM
IP: stu1id1a.ip.tesion.net

**RP HERE**

Doug, Kitainia, and most of the Ravens run upstairs into a hallway near the infirmary, stopping as they encounter three of their five absent members. "Hey guys," Shap greets them. "You see a naked man with a sword running this way?" "We're looking for the naked dude with a sword too, Shap," Elena replies, "and no, we haven't seen him." "You guys don't happen to know who this wacko is, do you?" asks Jammer. "I mean besides a depraved psycho who needs to be put down." Shap, Shauna, and Orion look at each other, then back at the party. "It's Kaioto," the latter says. "What?" Kit immediately drops her jaw. "That nice Seeker guy is our crazy?" "I'm afraid so," Shauna sighs. "We went to talk to him and barely got a chance to say a few words before he went nuts, broke out of his bacta tank, grabbed his sword, and went running off down the hall. Damn near killed a doctor too. I don't know what's wrong with the guy, and am now ashamed to say that before this I kinda liked him!" "Well, don't worry," Doug tells her. "I'm sure the rest of the people you like aren't going to go nuts. In the meantime, we have to find Kaioto and stop his rampage, then discover its cause. Lathrop, do you have a hold person spell?" "I have a power word stun," the wizard grins back. "That should work better," Doug smiles. "Now we just gotta find him. Come on."

**END RP BEFORE THE POST**

Hi everyone. Well, last week's CR got trashed, as you all know. Therefore, this post may be a little short. :( Apologies to all whose stuff I miss commenting on, I didn't save the CR before it crashed, and can't remember everything that was in there. Please repost what you said if you want to hear my thoughts on it. I should be able to post them and any other comments that come up this weekend, I'd do it sooner, but I have finals coming up. Speaking of which, I hope you all will continue to send prayers that Doug and I do well. We'll send you the same. Now on to what replies I can make. :)

Stormy: Yes, I have a Wagner collection. :) It took shape once I saved all those great pics of him you've made over the past year and has been growing larger with each new picture you make. Yes, I know it's a little weird, but you've just drawn such good pictures I have to keep them as files on my computer. The art's great, and when I want to look at it I don't want to have to call up a URL. Hence the collection folder. <grin> Don't worry, Wagner isn't the only character whose pictures I have on file. I also have collections of Xanatos, Lex, Brooklyn (your pic is going in that one, Spike, don't worry. Thanks for putting it up :), and Puck. And those are just the ones from Gargoyles. All these characters are ones I like, and thus I like keeping good images of them on my computer (I'm also working on a screensaver with them but haven't quite figured out what images should go in yet). Thank you again for all the good artwork that you've unknowingly contributed to the Wagner collection so far.

Avalon Mists: Perused the latest issue, good job people. Pistoff's Vaccum Riders was a bit formulaic, but still very enjoyable and I look forward to the stories developed around it in the future. Especially the development that changes Demona so much. :) Liked the other story and the great artwork in the writer's challenge, but was a bit disappointed at the lack of stories (oh well, maybe next time there'll be more). Also enjoyed the character profile, filks, and Crzy's artwork and found Micheal Heitz's cartoons hilarious (I really hope we managed to convince you not to stop doing those in last week's CR, Mike. You have real talent and we viewers should not be deprived of it because a few hate mailers didn't appreciate the result. Nor should your creativity demons be deprived of the exorcism. :) Look forward to any more cartoons of yours next issue and keep up the good work). The featured stories were good too, especially the Buffy crossover. All in all, it was a great issue and I can't wait for next year's. Kudos to all for such a good job.

Lexy: Read your Lex bit before the CR went down, liked it. Found one mistake, though. It wasn't Timedancer where we saw him go evil. It was Future Tense. Other than that, you did a very good job of sketching his character and how we perceive it. I don't know how to begin answering the questions you asked, but I'm sure someone else will. Personally, I've always seen Lex as the most interesting of the Trio because there's so much he keeps inside. Practically every writer I've read continues to write him that way, with little expression of what he's really thinking (TGS and Spike have been good exceptions so far). Don't know what really is inside the little guy, but I will probably continue to enjoy the process of discovery. I also like his innocence, probably because it's such a rare quality in Gargoyles characters and I know it can't last forever. As for him being evil...well, I liked seeing it in Future Tense because it was a good plot development (and trick on Puck's part). But I wouldn't want to see it in TGS or any canon episode, for the rest of the clan's sake. :)

Send Mara to G2K Fund: Good idea, Baron. How much do you think she'll need? Doug and I probably won't be going next year, so we may be able to give her some support. <grimaces, realizing how that sounds> Hope she gets the money and is able to enjoy the Gathering, same to the rest of you who are going. I'll say no more on this.

Coyote: Glad to know you don't have too much extra work with the promotion, hope you enjoy that. I look forward to your upcoming writing binge's results. :)

Wilek: Thanks for reposting the bit from last week, there's nothing I want to comment on but it was good to read it just the same. :) <Darth Maul Beanie Baby> You're right, I don't believe it. :( Wonder who designed the thing. Until now I thought Beanie Babies were supposed to be cute (the bad annoying kind of cute). Oh well, better him than Jarjar. Unless they have a Jarjar one too. <"Run for the hills!">

Mandi: <Ohmigod... in 2 weeks an episode I actually had a hand in writing will be released to the public... eep...> I'll be looking forward to it. Don't be so terrified, I'm sure you did a good job. Good luck on that Health paper when you turn it in.

New Shows This Week: Didn't like the Batman Beyond one much, its villains were more powerful than interesting and Terry and the other main characters' development was pushed aside for the incidental character of the girl. :( Hope future BB eps aren't like this. MIB had a good new episode, mostly thanks to the cool villain and K's interaction with him. The Worms got some good development too. Pokemon's new ep was also enjoyable. The Charazard bits were hilarious, and it was good to see a little continuity in the show with Fearow and Pigiot. As for X-Files last night, I watched and enjoyed it. Like SJ, I hope they keep giving us good episodes like this in the weeks ahead (and I also hope we see a little more development on Mulder and Scully). This one had a good plot, and the three teenagers were interesting characters. Too bad two of the three had to die.

Jaden: Glad to hear you're feeling better, hope it continues. Welcome back!

**SPOILERS FOR THE ADOPTED**

This DA ep was good, but some things could have made it better. I liked the development on the Archmage and Lord Sorcerer, the latter made a very menacing villain. Marcus was an interesting new character too, if he's who I think he is it will be very intriguing to follow his development in eps ahead. The plot of the episode was also nice, and there was good action. The only thing I didn't like was how we didn't see much of the clan showcased like we usually do (but this ep wasn't about them, so I suppose that can be excused) and that there were no illustrations (a picture of Marcus and maybe one of the elemental chimerae would have made things more visible in my mind). The writing was still very good despite these lacks, I hope it continues at this quality. Overall the ep gets 8/10, thumbs up. Keep doing good work.

**SPOILERS END**

Jewel: Re Y2K Gun Show- Two words- Marketing Ploy. And not a particularly original one either. :)

And now, something I'm surprised no one else has done yet. **Kit dons a judge robe and mounts the CR podium. "Baliff, bring in the prisoner!" Thailog Horror nods and runs off, then returns with a chained DC and worried-looking Kenny. CR dwellers gather in the nearby jury box as DC is put on the stand. "Dis Connect," says Kitainia. "You stand accused of destroying this CR and the Station 8 one, _again_, thus depriving us all of many posts of friendship. How do you plead?" "Uh,..." DC mutters. "Not guilty?" "As DC's defense attorney," Kenny says, "I would like to enter that plea and also move for leniency in punishment." Kitainia frowns and looks at the jury, smiling as they shake their heads. "Sorry, Ken. Motion denied. DC, the evidence clearly states that you did the crimes of which you are accused. Is that not true, jury?" The jury nods. "Hang him!" Traveler shouts, as DC looks about to faint. Kit bangs her gavel. "I sentence you to death by alligators, sentence to be carried out immediately!" "No!" DC screams as the CR dwellers grab him and throw him in the pit to be devoured alive. Kit removes her robe, shakes her head sadly, and then turns away from the gruesome sight.> Why haven't there been more of these?

Animation: I agree with Aaron about most adults in this nation being a-dolts when it comes to appreciating it. :( Hope we can do something to reverse that trend. As for Mononoke, I don't know if it could have succeeded. I like to hope it would, and am glad it has among us and in Japan. Other than that, I guess I don't know what to say. :(

And since that's about everything I wanted to comment on, I'll leave now. Later, people. <waves and departs>

**RP AGAIN**

In Los Angeles, the Dirty Laundry Gang and Storm Eagle are still looking surprised by Asil's statement. "You need a boy toy?" Storm Eagle repeats. Kit's evil clone nods. "Yes, and I have someone in mind too." "Come on, girl," Bleach Man protests. "You got a big hunkmeister right here, you don't need to go looking for some other bozo." "I do," Asil growls. "Big dumb idiots like you aren't exactly my type." "I'm not?" Bleach Man whines. "Oh, that's just great! The story of my life!" He sighs heavily. "Don't take it so hard, BM," says Socko. "At least you still have friends in us." The rest of the DLG swallows their exasperation and nods in agreement. "Don't get me wrong," Nylon Man then says to Asil, "but the last time we recruited a boy toy, your friend here killed him within five minutes of talking to him. How are we going to avoid that this time?" Asil grins and holds up a sinister-looking black handgun embellished with the symbols of the companies that make Beanie Babies, Furbies, Pokemon, and Elmo. "This device was recently manufactured in a joint venture by several corporations," she declares. "I got Dr. Edison and Kharsus to craft me a reproduction of it." "Great," Detergent says. "Uh, what does it do?" "Essentially," Asil chuckles, "it makes the one who gets zapped with the gun fall desperately in love with whatever the shooter is thinking of at the moment. The companies that made this device had people stand in stores where their products were sold and randomly zap people who walked in while thinking of their products, making those people insane to get their hands on the annoying and useless things. I will use this device to another purpose, namely to create a boy toy who is completely submissive to me and dependent on me for his every worldly satisfaction." "What a great idea!" Bleach Man cheers. "Can I try that after you?" Asil frowns. "We'll have to see if it works first." "If it doesn't," Staina says, "let me try. I've known many people to like me after I spray them with LSD poison." Storm Eagle raises her eyebrows and looks at Asil, who grimaces. "Hopefully we won't need to do that," she snaps. "Come, let's find our first target. I want to see whether or not Edison and Kharsus did their jobs." "I do too," Storm Eagle grins. "By the way, who is our first target? And why couldn't we have had that thing when Matthew Perry was around?" Asil does not bother to answer her and instead takes off from the roof to glide to the street below, the others using the fire escape to follow. Soon they are back in their vehicles and once again speeding down Los Angeles's streets.

**COMING SOON- DICAPRIO GETS DEVOTED. FOR NOW END RP**
Kitainia
Monday, December 6, 1999 02:27:25 PM
IP: pool-207-205-235-70.dlls.grid.net

Xanathar: Well, the weather here is near 0 C. Eventually, it will be down to 0 F. Cold, eh?
There is only one temperature that is the same in C and F. Whats that temperature?

Warpmind: <slushpiles>
Yuck! THAT's the bad thing about snow!

OH, BTW... that snow that came last night is almost melted away! That was 2-3"!

Wilek: You use text only, but you post with a picture?

Aaron: <(And I'd love to know where that fits into my job description)>
What, do you mean you were actually given a job description? Better than me.
And I know how you feel.
<3. I swear Lady E or A was voiced by Marina Sirtis in most of the early scenes, not Minnie Driver. Does anybody know anything about this, or am I just high? >
Yeah... I thought so too...

<Well, I still like my idea for TS3, where Woody, Buzz, and the rest of them get their butts kicked by Chip Hazzard and the Commando Elite. >
Heh heh heh...
FIre Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, December 6, 1999 02:16:00 PM
IP: t2-37.visitus.net

I disagree. I think that with the full force of the great Disney hype machine behind it, even funneled through Miramax Princess Mononoke could have been, if not the top grossing film of the year, at least successful enough to warrent further experimentation in the genre.

Part of me likes to believe that americans as a whole just need to be shown the beauty of mature animation, a beacon to lead the way, and show that animiation is not just for kids, now and forever.

The part of me that believes that also gets its butt kicked regularly by the much larger part that believes that americans (present company excluded, those who are american) are morons and there's no hope for them. The big part scored another hit on the little optimistic part yesterday when they saw the video starring Bartok, Hank Azaria's character from Anastasia.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, December 6, 1999 02:06:06 PM
IP: ppp-83.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Princess Mononoke > The movie would have flopped even if it was widely distributed. Most adults think animation is for kids. I'd hate to say this, but we're a minority. I don't know any statistics, but can you imagine the ratio of adults who appreciate animation to adults who don't?

How many of those adults have children whom they can't take to the movie because of the violence level?

Most adults don't want to see art. They want to see special effects.

I'm still shocked that so many people here liked "The Mummy"...

Scott - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Monday, December 6, 1999 01:35:15 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Aaron falls through the ceiling of the CR, and lands in the center of the room. Now covered head to foot in plaster dust, he shakes his head, and looks down at what he landed on.

Whoops, I kinda mooshed DC. Oh,well. Sorry about that. Must've taken a wrong turn while I was putting the cable up in the office ceiling. (And I'd love to know where that fits into my job description)

Well, I suspect my post about seeing Princess Mononoke bit the dust, so I'll just say it was really cool seeing it on the big screen, and hearing Keith David in surround sound. The only things that bug me are:
1. They ran the credits too fast. Gillian Anderson was the voice of Maro wasn't she?
2. I can't remember if the head of Irontown was Lady Eiboshi or Amiboshi.
3. I swear Lady E or A was voiced by Marina Sirtis in most of the early scenes, not Minnie Driver. Does anybody know anything about this, or am I just high?
4. I want a Maro plushie!

I'll tell you something really depressing though. We had the exact same previews that I saw at the Pokemon Movie. (The Tigger Movie, The Road to El Dorado, Stuart Little)

Which leads me to my highly cynical, very depressing theory: That Disney never wanted Princess Mononoke to succeed. Disney has no interest in adult-oriented animation. They have no division developing projects of that nature. (Tim Burton's "Dark Disney" division is probably the closest thing) They killed their best and brightest example of the genre and let it's creator go off to work for Dreamworks.

Meanwhile, they have a near-monopoly in kiddie animation, though they're being challenged. Disney likes this. (The monopoly, not the challenges) Disney probably wishes it could have snapped up the great Pokemon money machine.

Disney is already being challenged in it's traditional meal ticket, kids animation, where it has held sway for decades. It doesn't want challenges in an area it *can't* compete in. So when Disney sees a masterpiece like Mononoke Hime, the second highest grossing film of all time in Japan, it sees not an opportunity, but a threat to be neutralized.

Quickly, before anyone else can snap this up, Disney acquires the american rights to the film. They make an unprecedented deal not to cut a frame of the animation. They can do this because they don't care about the film's commercial success. They love the two hour plus running time because everyone know americans hate to sit still. Disney spends money on an all-star cast, and a big name script writer, to make it look like they're making an effort. This gives them a comfortable cushion so the film can have a modest box office and still be commercial failure.

Now Disney does everything they can to insure that failure. They give the film no promotion, a long, drawn out, piecemeal "limited release", and finally release it through Miramax, further distancing themselves from the finished product.

Now, when Princess Mononoke is a box office failure, industry insiders look at that and say that there's just no money in mature animation, and that americans don't like or want the stuff. Well, back to cranking out more sacchirine kiddie crap.

You've got to admit, Disney's management are either complete idiots, or they're minions of the dark forces of the universe. I wouldn't put something like this past them.

Now that that rabid paranoia is delt with, on to replies.

GB> Sure, I'd love to see Mara at G2K. Where do I kick in, and is there a minimum donation.

Mandi> Our theatres have Senior Carlos too. My no longer resident artist, who's hispanic, used to say "I am deeply offended by that" everytime he appeared.

Xanathar> Well, I still like my idea for TS3, where Woody, Buzz, and the rest of them get their butts kicked by Chip Hazzard and the Commando Elite.

Warpmind> What does your swordcane to be look like?

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, December 6, 1999 01:25:19 PM
IP: ppp-83.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Couple of quickies before I go to work ...

Room wipe being weird: Yeesh ... I thought it was bad when everything went down ... I have no idea why it was just *this* CR that went down (the other S8 rooms were working fine all day yesterday.).

"Get-Mara-To-Orlando" fund: Ya already know ya got my support for it ...

Warpmind: You're right, I *do* want to see what you've done with it. Very very curious ... **reads post closer** Oh, so Mara's in on your project too, huh? Well now ... this *should* be fun ... ;)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, December 6, 1999 10:27:30 AM
IP: zzz-209252248056.splitrock.net

God, I'm tired... pardon any incoherence.

Lexy> <<OK all you fan fic writers..WHY? Why is Lex a lil naughty? If he isnt in your fics..then what is he
like and explain why you think _that_ is how he would react?>> Uh, define "naughty." Lex hasn't quite gotten to the "dirty tail trick" (grins at Spike) level of naughty in my fics, but he's one of the major troublemakers in my fic cycle. Why? I don't know. I think I'd just read one too many Lex-angst fics and wanted him to have some fun for a change.

Gunjack> <<What series is it for?>> It's the next episode of Dark Ages...

Okay. Coffee not kicking in.

**Mandi drops her head down on the desk and ends transmission**
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 10:16:19 AM
IP: 144.175.18.15

The Voting is open for the November MGC: Ancient Ones contests. It's the most entries ever so please do go look them over and cast your vote! (Yes.... I've got one in there. *rolls eyes*)

Snow>> Speaking of which, MGC is having a snowgargoyle making contest through March 15, 2000. Make your best snowgarg, take a photo, and send the scanned pic into MGC. *laughs* Mind, down here we usually put three tumble weeds on a stick, spraypaint it white and decorate THAT as a snowman. Haven't seen a foot of snow in my life.
Spike - [<== Vote for the November MGC!!!]
Monday, December 6, 1999 09:34:24 AM
IP: pppt10-176.ght.iadfw.net

*Peeks in, blinking.*
Heeey, when'd Lexy pop in here again? Glad ta have ye back, lass!

On the subject of St. Osmund: I wonder if there are available necklaces or something with his insignia on, much like the St. Christopher? Would be cool. *Suddenly receives a vivid picture of all the CR residents visiting G2K wearing various equally insane choices of dead animals around their necks.*

Lexy: Hey, Lex ain't always naughty, y'know... well, not yet in my fics, anyway... but Manxine is constantly on my back about it, if you know what I mean, oh fellow fanfic authors. I want to keep him as that innocent little green garg, she wants him as her personal "chew toy", for lack of a better term in a rated environment...

PC stuff: I don't personally give a rat's rear end about being politically correct. I am a chauvinist, occasionally a bigotic a**hole, and, quite frequently, an insensitive s.o.b. And those are my good sides. (Well, only on a really bad day, on better days, I ain't half bad.) Political Correctness be damned!

Well, that let off a little steam. I guess I shoulda warned about ranting, but I guess I was so Politically Incorrect that I didn't bother.

As for the Demona's Payback project: Episode 1 is done. I take it Coyote wants a copy directly, so he may see what I have done... and, of course, I will probably upload it to the gargoyles-fans fanfic archive... if I could only figure out how that damned thing works! Any clues? And while I'm at it, I'm suggesting that the lot of us who work on the Demona's Payback project (Right now, Me, Mara and Pissy) will share an account there, and each be given the required passwords at the appropriate time...

Well, catch everyone later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, December 6, 1999 08:48:40 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Kitainia> <<Wilek: Please do that. Anyone else who made comments before the wipe and before last night that got trashed please do the same. I'm among the many who don't want to keep missing them. Many thanks.>> Sure thing. ^_^

**REPOST**

Green Baron> <<Actually, I have reason to beleive Starsinger is Anonymous. Color, pic, and WEB TV IP :)>> Ah. Heh...I kinda thought it might have been Night Walker (I know if I were grounded I'd find a way around it); their posts look a lot alike without names (or pics, since I use the text-only room). :)

GSide> <<Today is the feast of St. Osmund, paton saint of the insane. Nice to know we have our own saint.>> Cool...hey, maybe we should build a cathedral dedicated to him. Or does the CR count? 8) (Ye know, that would explain a lot...)

Spacebabie> PC bit> ROTFLMTO!! >:D

Gunjack> <<Acctually, I liked the cheat system in Goldeneye... It removed the temptation to just steamroll the harder levels, and it gave you something to shoot for.>> You're talking to someone who is typically killed by the first enemy he encounters in any given video game (the most spectacular example being the ninja zombies from Shadowman). o_o' <<Which is that hard? Goldeneye or AvP?>> BOTH. >:( In the VERY FIRST LEVEL of the Alien game, there is this bit where a few pitiful humans are standing about, waiting to be slaughtered...except one has this gun that can somehow take down a xenomorph with about a half second of sustained fire. <hmph> A thousand pardons, I was under the impression that dre'kkeths were invincible bloodthirsty marauders straight out of nightmares, obviously I was mistaken. >:/ <<Unfortuneatly, I'm not converting them from one format to another, I'm converting them from photo-quality JPEGs to B&W line drawings... By hand.>> <twitchtwitch> Oi...

Shogun Raptor> ROTFL again! :D

Lexy> Welcome back! :D <<OK all you fan fic writers..WHY? Why is Lex a lil naughty? If he isnt in your fics..then what is he like and explain why you think _that_ is how he would react?>> Um...I don't know or care if he's naughty in my fics, since he'll be dead soon, just like the rest.

SJ> <<one big honkin' navy ship that they sold to a private buyer from Florida. Only the geniuses in inventory forgot to remove little things before they sent it to the guy.....such as the missile launcher. The PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL missile launcher. The perfectly functional EASY TO OPERATE missile launcher. And, reportedly, they're not entirely sure that other ordinance was removed before the ship changed hands. The buyer's being appropriately cryptic as to exactly what hardware he's packing....>> I'm glad my order finally came in; I was wondering how long they'd take to ship the blasted thing... <<Looks like Disney is making plans for Toy Story THREE.>> Oh ye gawdz, make it stop. The only thing I really liked about either of the first two movies was the twisted little spider thing. Gadz, Pixar does great animation; why aren't they being given better scripts...

**END**
Wilek Nereus
Monday, December 6, 1999 08:33:57 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

It's that time again, folx. Warpmind de InzanE and his post o' replies'n'stuff.

*Looks at what should be last week's CR, then starts cursing creatively.* Okay, What The F*ck Dot Com happened to last week's CR? I couldn't access it yesterday, and now it seems to be completely gone? *Pulls up a gnawed-off double-barreled shotgun and efficiently disassembled DC.*

Setting up Mara for the G2K fund: I'm for it. But alas, I doubt I will contribute any money to it, as I will be too preoccupied with the stress of gathering funds to go there, myself.

Gaah! I hate snow. Now, there are ankle-deep slushpiles everywhere. *Curses vehemently at the consept of white stuff on the ground.*

Well, catch y'all later, y'hear?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, December 6, 1999 06:38:32 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi all!!

*Xanathar walks into the CR carrying a Ripper gun from Unreal Tournament and fires one of its lethal disks at DC,slicing his head clean off*

Good thing I'd saved this post last night(Thankyou Notepad!! :)),I couldn't actually post it last night seeing as the room went down right before I hit the submit button):(

Lexy:welcome back! :)

Fire Storm re weather:<<Don't worry. Most of us in here are Americans that use that other system. and I ALWAYS forget my conversions... if it is (F = (9/5)C + 32), then the temp is 98.6 (I doubt it is F = (9/5)*(C + 32) if that is true, the temp there is 124.2, and I REALLY hope that is not the temp where you are!) (NOTE: For referance, 32F is freezing and 98.6F is standard body temperature)>>Ah,thankyou :) and yes it was 37C last week,I've heard it's going to be the same this week as well:(

Stephen:Congratulations on you story being published :)

Gside:<<Thought I'd pass this along: Today is the feast of St. Osmund, paton saint of the insane. Nice to know we have our own saint.>>Cool:),nice to know somebodies looking out for us lovable lunatic's :)

Spacebabie re PC story:*ROTFL*

shogun raptor:<<THAT THING JUST MOLESTED THAT CONIFEROUS-AMERICAN>>*LOL*

SJ:<<Looks like Disney is making plans for Toy Story THREE.>>NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*I think you get the idea*:)

Phaedra:Welcome,well I became a Gargoyles fan because it had a wonderful story that didn't patronise,facinating characters that I could relate to and cared about(Demona and Macbeth particularly) and for it's excelent animation.

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Monday, December 6, 1999 05:58:53 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

testing testing...

is this thing on?

No more posts... Made me wonder...
Fire Storm
Monday, December 6, 1999 03:57:57 AM
IP: 216.90.45.188

Uh... <Points towards windows where there is alot of white stuff on the ground> Where did that come from? It wasn't there at midnight!

WE HAVE SNOW! AND, it is even a measurable amount!

(Boy... I feel sorry for my dad!)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, December 6, 1999 02:24:39 AM
IP: t2-15.visitus.net

What a way to end a week... first the posts slow down to a trickle, then the whole shebang goes belly-up for a straight day... :( Is the last week's CR gonna be available, or was it permanently wiped out? If the later is the case, I'd second the motion of reposting old stuff... There was a whole load of replies I didn't get to.

Well, lacking the vital link, I'll just start on the new stuff.

Tim P - Loved the PC names! I'm not even going to try to figure out which ones are real and which are made up...

Wilek - PLEASE tell me that you were kidding about that plushie thing... I'd REALLY hate to have to by a beanie baby...:) Hey, if their gonna make millions of the little critters, the least they can do is make 'em fun!
Heh. I wonder what the little poem thing is gonna be...

Jewell><<X-files: Was it just me, or was this week's X-FIles actually "Blair Witch" meets "The Matrix," with Mulder and Scully thrown in for kicks? >> Sounds like quite a bit of fun... :D <<Blakc Republicans: They're viewed as uncle Toms and sellouts because, in general, the Republican party has done *squat* in terms of helping most Blacks>> And what have the democrats done for blacks that earns them the moral high ground? Persoanlly, I find the concept that political party ditermines personal ethics downright absurd. And yet, as you pointed out, the standard remains...<<You know what's scary? I went out with my brother and sister-in-law yesterday, and saw a billboard: "Y2K Gun show! Preparedness! Survival Skills! Guns!" I kid you not.>> And I was upset that I missed that show, too...:)
What's scary about it? If a bunch of survivalists want to prepare for the apocolypse, more power to 'em. Really, Y2K is just the latest fad. All that stuff has been going on for years at gunshows... This is just the latest excuse.

Mandi><<Did I say two weeks? Ack, I'm wrong... it's only a week til that TGS ep posts! (oh, no...) >> What series is it for?

*********************TGS DARK AGES SPOILERS*****************

"Nowhere to run/Nowhere to hide" was pretty good. The Iago/Javin subplot was...juvinile, but after that, things picked up a bit. I liked seeing Roland again, but I'd like to see him mixed up in some really serious trouble rather than just abortive raids and ruffianism. Of course, since He and Atalanta were preparing their forces for war, maybe we'll see some good action in the near future.
The "live dummy" idea was suitably evil for Roland, and also tends to support the idea that he's about to try for Wyvern in the near future...
Three nitpicks: first, there should have been a scene with one of the Gargs actually mixed up in the "training; it would have helped build up tension. Second, I noticed the Combat Dilema cropping up several times; the problem of balancing tension in a fight without inflicting serious damage on the main characters. These two needed a touch of work, but it wasn't too much of a problem.
Third (and unnescesarily technical): if you set fires at both ends of a tunnel, wouldn't that asphyxiate anyone in the middle?
One of the interesting things about Dark Ages, to me anyway, is that it's like watching somebody put a jigsaw puzzle together. We all know how this is going to end, and each piece of the final picture is slowly being fitted into place.
This was especially noticable in the Diomedes(?)/Demona subplot... We all know how this is going to end, but that doesn't stop involvement with the characters. To me, the estrangement between Diomedes and Demona was really a tragedy, as it moved anyone that much closer to the final curtian.
All in all, a good piece.
*********************END SPOILERS**************************

Ugh, time for bed... And I was wanting to do some more work on my 1911 Op Special, too...
Hopefully last week's CR will be available by tomorrow...
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 6, 1999 12:58:59 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.224.97.dallas1.level3.net

Thanks for letting me do this Robbie...

Life is never for certain...
The Adopted
The Dark Ages story
by Todd Jensen and Alan "Ordell" Coleman

Enjoy...
Ordell - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Monday, December 6, 1999 12:44:04 AM
IP: ppp-131.ode.cableone.net

hey everyone..

*sighs* last week's room is gone... that means Lexy's essay on Lexington is gone... ;) it's a good thing we saved it one Word Pad!!!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHHA!!!!! now she can post it again in a couple of months!!!!!!!!

*grins* well... now that I've got that off my chest.. I've kinda been lurking for the past couple of weeks bcuz of reduced time... my mom has decided to take an interest in the computer.. thankfully not gargoyles. it's really getting annoying.

Well, I have to go now! bye!




cherry blossom
Monday, December 6, 1999 12:40:40 AM
IP: spider-wl051.proxy.aol.com

Ok! I'm back! And I feel 100% better...ok 99%...alright it's really about 85% but who's counting. Well I'd like to respond to any post that I missed while I was gone, but last weeks posts seems to have disappeared. So could someone tell me what's going on!

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Monday, December 6, 1999 12:18:59 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Where the heck is the last few days worth of posts? I guess this'll teach me a lessen to never miss a day of posting! I don't really have anything thrilling or exciting to say... um, I found out that Princess Mononoke is only playing at a theater about 30 minutes away from my house. Bummer. And I have three tests on Tuesday, and I spent all of today shopping for my family and spent about $230 dollars on Christmas presents. *sigh* Tis the season... I'm off to read the last two eps of DA cause I've been slackin' lately. OKIloveyoubyebye!.... Man, I haven't done that in a while!
SOROW
Monday, December 6, 1999 12:02:52 AM
IP: dll2a020-0668.splitrock.net

Jewel: I know that that is the opinion of the Republican party and Black Republicans, but I still say that if it is their decision to be part of the conservative party, despite those opinions, their decision should be respected. In a party that espouses free choice, they should at least have the civility to accept their decision and treat it with some respect, even if they vehemently disagree with it.
And for the record, anyone who has read anything by Alan Keyes or has listened to some of his speeches and views and still thinks he's playing the good slave to the white massas...well, they should get their head examined. To further my seeming love fest with the man, he's got a better head on his shoulders than some other **coughcoughBushcoughcough** candidates out there.
But let's stop the political talk before I get a migraine. Of course, that means I must not further instigate the discussion myself....must...discipline...self!!! **Takes out big stick, beats himself over the head with it**
Sevarius Jr.
Sunday, December 5, 1999 11:49:39 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

SJ: "If not, blame Y2K! THE END IS NEAR!" You know what's scary? I went out with my brother and sister-in-law yesterday, and saw a billboard: "Y2K Gun show! Preparedness! Survival Skills! Guns!" I kid you not.

Blakc Republicans: They're viewed as uncle Toms and sellouts because, in general, the Republican party has done *squat* in terms of helping most Blacks. In fact, the Republican party is seen as the party of the out-of-touch old-money oppressors--so allying with them is seen as a stab in the back--or worse, like a sucking-up "good house slave" wannabe-WHite. This is not my personal view, of course, but that's how it is.

GB: Yeah, I think I am a moderate with leftist leanings...on some issues. On others, I can be rabidly rightist, which has gotten me into more than one fight with my dad and big brother (leaving them to decide I was a "snob" [which translates into "that girl's been around Whites too long and has lost touch with How Things Really are."] Arg).

jewel
Sunday, December 5, 1999 11:06:23 PM
IP: atlnb109-41.splitrock.net

SJ> <<to the quote I think should go up on the poster alongside Roger Eberts--"What the hell was that thing that kept going 'Pi, pi, pi ka choo?'" >> LOL! Oh, that's great... your mom is awesome, SJ, tell her I said so. :)

Did I say two weeks? Ack, I'm wrong... it's only a week til that TGS ep posts! (oh, no...)

More PC stuff> There's a little ad that the theater in my hometown's been showing since it opened: a little cartoon guy with a sombrero and the caption, "Senor Carlos says, Hungry? Stop at the snack bar and get some NACHOS!" I thought it was funny just for the way they drew the guy; a friend of mine said he looked like Paul Reubens meets Speedy Gonzales, and I cracked up because he was right. I'm just waiting for someone to whine and moan that it's not PC. But the good news is that after two years, no one's said anything yet... :)

**Mandi shrugs and goes back to the paper**
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 11:06:21 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Well, good to see the CR back from the depths of nothingness. What the hell is up with Wyvern Web? This is only like the 932th consecutive server fart in the past year. I BLAME Y2K!!! ;)

Can't even begin to repost my stuff from yesterday...if you read it, good. If not...blame Y2K! THE END IS NEAR!!!!

***X-FILES REVIEW***
Maybe it's just me, but I liked tonight's episode. I don't want to get too optimistic, thinking that the show may be getting better, cause the moment I do I'll get the Mulder and Scully Comedy Hour back on my screen again. But tonight's episode (which, as Jewel said, was very "Matrix"-esque) was fun, and it sort of reminded me of earlier episodes like that one with the satanic substitute teacher. Just some various weird stuff happening in a small town, with only Mulder and Scully there to investigate. Ahh, like the old days. No convoluted alien metaplots, no FBI agent kissy-face, no gratuituous/lame jokes. Just fun. Better episode than some recent ones. Thumbs up from me. I'm sure this turnaround won't last.

BTW, has anyone in here heard of the new X-Files like show coming soon to (I believe) the Sci-Fi channel called "Matthew Blackheart: Monster Smasher"? I saw a preview of it in a recent issue of Fangoria magazine, and it looks fun. Sort of like X-Files meets Buffy. The monsters even look appropriately Buffy-esque. Could be cool, and I think it even may debut as early as spring of next year!
***END REVIEW***

Well, my MOM of all people, saw the Pokemon movie today. She had to take the ol' rugrats (i.e. her grandkids, my brother's kids) to the movies today, which she usually enjoys...but apparently ma wasn't that impressed with the flick. Her exact quotes were something along the lines of "That was the silliest thing I've ever seen", and "I was miserable", and "I wish to God I could have fallen asleep during it, but there was too much noise", to the quote I think should go up on the poster alongside Roger Eberts--"What the hell was that thing that kept going 'Pi, pi, pi ka choo?'"
Ah, my mom. God I love her. I really do! Old fashioned, and occasionally completely ignorant to pop culture, but she's got a sense of humor to put them all to shame! ;)

Green Baron: What upsets me about the backlash against Black Republicans is that there seems to be a double standard for them. First off, the party that they're a part of doesn't take them seriously, which is a tragedy, cause legitimately, Alan Keys is a very intelligent man, certainly as smart as Jesse Jackson and far more, I feel, than somebody like Al Sharpton. But that's beside the point. The double standard exists because the liberal/democrat party, while usually the party stereotypically promoting tolerance and acceptance and free-choice, seemingly has no respect whatsoever for the Black Republicans. If you're a Black Democrat, you're normal. If you're a Black Republican, you're an Uncle Tom or a sellout. That distresses me greatly. Folks like Alan Keys have enough trouble as is with their own party, they don't need liberals coming down on their ass just because they have the balls enough to choose their own political affiliation, instead of automatically accepting one party and one party alone.
*sigh* Politics makes me crazy. Bipartisan politics drives me up the wall. When I become the benevolent dictator of this great nation, things will be *much* easier! ;) ;p

PC Names: Those are freaky, but I do like the one for Pimpmobile. Culturally Reponsive Transportation Option--that is friggin hilarious! Like the Godfather says, Pimpin ain't easy! Get on the Hoooooooooo train!!!
BTW, here's a pig name for the PC Folks: Uptight @$$holes who need to get laid...badly!

Well, off to catch the replay of Patty Stewart's "Christmas Carol"...
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 10:55:10 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Missed the X-Files; taped "A Christmas Carol" for a Patrick Stewart-obsessed friend with a broken VCR instead.

Wilek> A Darth Maul beanie baby? A DARTH MAUL BEANIE BABY!?!?!? Oh, my.... where did you hear this? Are they out yet? I just had a thoroughly evil Christmas present idea for Michelle...

Blue Caeru> <<Wow, it looks like last week's CR is forever lost to that void in cyberspace where all "misplaced" info goes... >> Good, that means for once I'm caught up. :)

Tim P.> **reading more PC Primer** Ow, ow, ow, headache forming...

**suddenly realizes something terrifying** Ohmigod... in 2 weeks an episode I actually had a hand in writing will be released to the public... eep...

Okay, Health paper is nearing page 9. God, I hate this class. :)
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 10:46:55 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Wilek: Please do that. Anyone else who made comments before the wipe and before last night that got trashed please do the same. I'm among the many who don't want to keep missing them. Many thanks.

Real post later.
Kitiaina
Sunday, December 5, 1999 10:44:46 PM
IP: pool-209-138-160-110.dlls.grid.net

X-files: Was it just me, or was this week's X-FIles actually "Blair Witch" meets "The Matrix," with Mulder and Scully thrown in for kicks?

GB: I might have "misplaced" the e-mail--a few days ago, I was cleanign out my inbox, and might have accidently checked the wrong box...
jewel
Sunday, December 5, 1999 10:27:17 PM
IP: atlnb109-41.splitrock.net

*peers into the darkness*
Wow, it looks like last week's CR is forever lost to that void in cyberspace where all "misplaced" info goes...
Blue Caeru - [BlueCaeru@cs.com]
Gainesville, Florida, United States
Sunday, December 5, 1999 10:22:59 PM
IP: spider-tn022.proxy.aol.com

Hello, all. Fairly short post tonight, given what's happened. What...*did* happen? O_o Did someone blow up the CR again? :P If no one objects, I could repost my comments from before the wipe, in an effort to restart conversation? :)

BTW, I have recieved certain confirmation that the world is coming to an end: a Darth Maul beanie babie. Just in case you thought that was a typo, allow me to repeat: a Darth Maul beanie babie. Ye gadz...

Green Baron> <<I hereby begin the send Mara to G2K fund. How many would agree to help the lovely and talented Mara Cordova make it to Orlando this August :)>> Kewl! :D Contributing is unfortunately not an option for me, :/ but I like the idea. :)

Tim P> PC stuff> Still frighteningly close to reality...You know, it's odd, but the more this PC psychopathia is exaggerated, the more realistic it seems... O_o <<Selectively Perceptive, Mental Explorers>> True, actually, but I still prefer being known as insane. :P <<Cheeseburger/ Adding Insult to Injury>> :O ROTFLMTO!!! I *love* this one, for some reason. >:)
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, December 5, 1999 09:40:31 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Here's some more for you PC Primer! Surprizinly, many of these are real. I checked with the September 1997 issue of MultiCultural Review. Can you gues which ones?

<--- "Oh, great. What the hell are they gonna call us?"

"Insensitive Term"/ "Preferred Term"
ETHNICITY: (PC people do not recognize the term "race" as valid.)
Black/ African-American
(NOTE: DOES NOT INCLUDE LIBYANS EGYPTIANS, WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS. DOES INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH DARK SKIN REGARDLESS OF WHERE TEY ARE FROM OR WHERE THEY LIVE.)
Oriental/ Asian-American, or refer to the individual particilar ethnic background
Indian- Native American
(NOTE: THE FOLLOWING TEAMS ARE NOT PC: Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Kansas City Chiefs, Washington Redskins. AVOID THESE CITIES!!!!)
Chicano Hispanic
(NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ARE NOT PC: Cheech and Chong, Chico and the Man episodes, Cisco Kid, Rosarita Salsa, Speedy Gonzales. AVOID! AVOID!)
Towel Head/Ay-Rab/ Arab-American
White Trash/ PC Unaware, Rustically Inclined
WASP (white male)/ Insensitive Cultural Oppressor (ICO)
GENDER: (PC people don't like the word "sex" as it has confusing connotations.)
Woman/ Womyn, Vaginal-American
Girl/ Pre-Womyn
Housewife/ Domestic Engineer
Fireman/ Firefighter
Stewardess/ Flight Attendant
Meter Maid/ Parking Enforcement Adjudicator
Post Man/ Post Person
Mail Man/ Person Person
Policeman/ (cop, pig) Law Enforcement Officer, Baton Boy, California Clubber
Prostitute/ Sex Surrogate (Teen Victim. See: Broken Home)
Mankind/ Humankind
PEOPLE: SUB-GROUPS
Handicapped/ Differently Abled
Blind/ Optically Darker, Photonically Non-receptive
Deaf/ Visually Oriented
Poor, Lower Class/ Economically Unprepared
Bum/ Homeless Person, Displaced Homeowner, Philosophy Major
Hunter/ Animal Assassin, Meat Mercenary, Bambi Butcher
Whaler/ Blubber Lovers
Old Person,Elderly/ 4th-Dimensionally Extended, Gerontologically Advanced
Conservative/ Right Wing Extremist Fascist Pig
Drug Addict/ Chemically Dependant
Bald/ Comb-Free
Bisexual/ Sexually Non-preferential
Insane People Selectively Perceptive, Mental Explorers
Idiot/ Person with Learning Disability
Tree-Hugger/ Environmental Activist
Logger/ Wood Weasal, Paper Pirate, Treeslayer
Dead People, Metaphysically Challenged
MISCELLANEOUS
Broken Home/ Dysfunctional Family
HouseBroken/ Family Dysfunction
Cattle Ranch/ Cattle Concentration Camp (CCC), "Moo-shwitz"
Senile Bag o' Bones/ Alzheimer's Victim
Ghetto, Barrio/ Ethnically Homogeneous Area (EHA), Pre-Integrated Pre-Nirvana
Hamburger/ Seared Mutilated Animal Flesh (SMAF)
Cheeseburger/ Adding Insult to Injury
Used Books/ Recycled Books
Cheating in School, Academic Dishonesty
Trees, Oxygen Exchange Units
Gang, Youth Group
Pimp-mobile, Low-rider/ Culturally Reponsive Transportation Option
Drunk/ Intoxicated
Slum/ Economic Oppression Zone (EOZ)
Tim P.
Sunday, December 5, 1999 09:20:36 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

The room is up again, woohoo.

Sevarius Jr.> In most respects, I am conservative (the bow tie should give that away :) an di am still registered with the "evil party" as you put it. I am just also a member of the Libertarian Party and for $25.00 a year you can join them too :) I also agree with you about Alan Keyes. I have a cousin who is a black Republican and he has taken a lot of that Uncle Tom crap for it in College. It probably doesn't help that his first name is Tom :)

Here is another announcement. There is one young aldy in this CR we all love and woudl love to see at G2K, but she lacks funds right now, so to help her out. I hereby begin the send Mara to G2K fund. How many would agree to help the lovely and talented Mara Cordova make it to Orlando this August :)

Now, I must be off to do more homework. Bye Bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, December 5, 1999 09:16:42 PM
IP: 141.164.77.229

**walks in, in gargoyle form, dressed like Multina... followed by her SD pets. In addition ot SD Demmie-chan, Angie-chan and Xelloss-kun is Firia-chan. SD Angie-chan is once again composing haiku, SD Demmie-chan has grape-flavored bubble gum. Both are dressed like Sypheel and Naga, respectively. SD firia-chan and SD Xelloss-kun are in their regular clothing**

HELLO ALL! Slayers fans, prepare to be jealous, I am now the proud owner of volumes one through six of the SlayersTRY series!

**Mara and SD pets laugh maniacally, before pouring tea for everyone**

That said... What's up?
Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 09:01:53 PM
IP: spider-wm033.proxy.aol.com

Whew! finally! I was thinking that the room was NEVER gonna come back up!

Gunjack Valentine
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:47:33 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.224.229.dallas1.level3.net

Just to clear things up...

11th: Xanathar (10th if Anonymous doesn't count)
10th: Bronx (9th if Anonymous doesn't count)
9th: Anonymous
8th: Kaioto
7th: Coyote
6th: Mara
5th: Peter
4th: Taleweaver
3rd: Me!
2nd: Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
1st: Wilek

7 pages and climbing: Mandolin's Health Management paper
Mandolin
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:36:00 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Eh, don't see any reason to wipe the room when the story is posted, since it kinda wiped itself...
Robby
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:31:11 PM
IP: spider-tr073.proxy.aol.com

NINTH!!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:15:51 PM
IP: 139.134.27.66

8th!
Bronx - [Bronx Wyvern4@aol.com]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:14:21 PM
IP: spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com

...
Anonymous
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:14:05 PM
IP: proxy-321.public.rwc.webtv.net

Poink ... Zot ... Narf ...
Toku Kaioto
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:10:26 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Coyote, you are #7, and the next person to post is #8.

This post and any repeats do not count.
Fire Storm
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:07:08 PM
IP: 216.90.45.181

Uhmm ... what number am I?
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, December 5, 1999 08:03:17 PM
IP: zzz-209252248084.splitrock.net

Either seventh or eight.. Top TEN anyway!
Mara Cordovs
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:58:13 PM
IP: spider-wm033.proxy.aol.com

TOP TEN!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:46:08 PM
IP: dial-273.ocis.net

Six
taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:39:41 PM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

No, wait, that was third... :)
Mandolin
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:36:53 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Fourth? I think?
Mandolin
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:36:30 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Hmm... will the CR be re-wiped later tonight when the story is posted?

Robby: Check your e-mail
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:32:16 PM
IP: 216.90.45.181

SECOND!

"Crash... into me"
Dave Mathews Band <SP>
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic - [Mystic-Storm@usa.net]
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:29:24 PM
IP: 216.90.45.181

FIRST!!!
Wilek
Sunday, December 5, 1999 07:28:19 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com