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Marc and Spacebabie> Goliath is definitely lavender/purple (Leva Mevis said, in a fanfic, that he can turn "eggplant purple" when he blushes, too :P). And he's manly despite his pigment problems. Btw, I would agree that Broadway can be classified as "minty". Not very manly, either, but then Broadway never really was. I mean...
AotN
Sunday, December 12, 1999 10:17:36 PM
IP: fn-39-80.sssnet.com

<<Sewer Urchin: Dustin Hoffman, Definitely Dustin Hoffman>> *LOL* Unfortunately, while the voice is right, I'd say Hoffman is probably a couple decades too old. I always pictured Sewer Urchin as being in his 40s or younger, not in his 60s or older.
Zath
Sunday, December 12, 1999 09:51:06 PM
IP: ppp-229-245.usc.edu

Shogun Raptor- Bravo on the list.... Ever think of becoming a casting director?>:))

Sewer Urchin: Dustin Hoffman, Definitely Dustin Hoffman

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHH!!!!!!!

Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 09:40:44 PM
IP: hppp2.buffnet.net

Live-action tick> actually, I thought Die fladermaus shoud be done by Val Kilmer for a number of reasons, self-mockery for one, for another, he's the perfect pretty-boy type, just look at batman Forever, actually pretty-boy self mockery is the main selling point of Kilmer as Die Fladermaus, as for the others.....
Arthur: Rick Moranis
Sewer Urchin: Dustin Hoffman, Definitely Dustin Hoffman
the Breadmaster: Christopher Walken
the terror:Ian McDarmid

shogun raptor
Sunday, December 12, 1999 09:37:47 PM
IP: miami-trans1.firn.edu

Hmmmm.... it also appears to be a "mostly dead" comment room... I'll have to fix that...

*Unholsters a .50 Desert Eagle* BLAM! BLAM!! BLAM!!! *and blows away the comment room*

There... NOW is just DEAD!!! >:)) *heheheheheheh*

Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 09:30:03 PM
IP: hppp2.buffnet.net

Is this a real comment room, or a Sears comment room?

>=]

Name the parody...

Traveler - [traveler45@geocities.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 09:02:51 PM
IP: hppp2.buffnet.net

DON - I understand, man. Hey, who knows what's going to happen before the playoffs begin? I'm just happy to see that it was a great game between two top teams!

Now, if there was just some way to keep Green Bay out of the playoff picture... :)

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:53:21 PM
IP: m35.ieway.com

... or maybe more now. That last post came off a little too attitudinal for my taste, and I apologize. You're right, Stephen, it was a great game. For the first 55 minutes or so ... ;) j/k
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:44:32 PM
IP: zzz-209252248073.splitrock.net

**walks in dejectedly**

Mummble ... grummble ...

Stephen: They're in first, yeah ... *for now.* Just keep in mind, though, that if they wind up ending the season tied, my Honolulu blue and silver guys still hold the tiebreaker in the division (record against division, at 4-2). So I take that solace tonight. :)

Possibly more after the wipe ... maybe tomorrow ...

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:41:22 PM
IP: zzz-209252248073.splitrock.net

Oops...hit the wrong key....

Jessie> Sent ya an e-mail. :)

Anne
MN, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:37:55 PM
IP: 204-246-241-206.nas2.apv.gblx.net

...
Anne
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:35:29 PM
IP: 204-246-241-206.nas2.apv.gblx.net

good eve everyone, quick post: here's a few fun one liners

>>How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink?
>>If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously
overlooked something.
>>Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
>>Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
>>When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.
>>Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
>>Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
>>Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have
film.
>>Shin: a device for finding furniture in the dark.
>>Many people quit looking for work when they find a job.
>>I intend to live forever - so far, so good.
>>Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them.
>>If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?

catch you all next time

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:30:49 PM
IP: twin6113.magiclink.com

[A familiar figure in a Big White Hat bursts through the doors of the CR, being carried on the shoulders of big, brawny guys in red-and-pewter jerseys that sport names like "ALSTOTT", "SAPP", "LYNCH", "DUNN", "AHANATU", and "KING". They are all chanting "Bucs! Bucs! Bucs!", before they burst out cheering. They then set the big guy down to let him address the room...]

Greetings all! What a way to come back to the room, eh! [Turns to the big guys and waves] Thanks, fellas! Appreciate the lift! [the players wave and return the thanks before filing out of the room.] WHEW! It is so good to see mah boys take names and kick butts on the field! Thanks to a revived 4th quarter drive, Tampa Bay is now #1 in the NFC Central division... Looks like my boys might have a chance to really take it to the limit this year!

[Looks aside to Don] Sorry, Bro... The Lions did good this time around, but the Bucs kept the magic going! [gives his friend a clap on the back] Great game though!

CHRISTINE - EroticHA, eh? Must go and see! :)

Will have more to say after the room wipe. Maintain and Check Six! :)

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 08:05:07 PM
IP: m35.ieway.com

Real quick--Anne, could you email me? I have a question to ask you. Thanks.
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 05:56:40 PM
IP: ctrts3-2.mrs.umn.edu

Bleh. My "e-mail forwarding for life" system went "Pbbbth" a few days ago. I just discovered that any e-mail sent to me isn't getting to me. Bleh. I had to send an e-mail to the chick in charge of it and tell her it seems to have exploded, and then send an e-mail telling people that they'd have to resend anythign sent to me in the last five days. Arg. I had been wondering why the only e-mail I was getting was junk e-mail...

SJ: "Calm them hormones, girl! He's only a man, for goodness sakes!" <raises eyebrow> And Brittney Speers is only a girl. I don't really think he's all that cute, but there are times...hee--leave me my hormones, they only rage occasionally. Let me enjoy it when they do. ;)
"I see that every time I look in the mirror" You look like David Boreneaz?!!? Shoot. I knew I should have tried to meet you when I was still in DC. ;)
".....and I'm talking about the upper body when I say "that". Get thee mind out of the gutter!!!" <blinks innocently> What else would I think but upper body? What did you *think* I would think of? Hmm, I wonder whose head is in the gutter, there... ;)
"Honestly, I don't know, for some reason, I don't find David Boreanaz threatening. He seems cool to me. I don't have any of the same mindless, blind hatred with David that I have for those other, Aryan Nation posterboys (Leo Dicaprio, the boys of N*Sync, Ryan Phillippe, etc.). Dave seems like a cool guy." He does. Although I was ready to scream when I lived in Philly--since he was from Philadelphia, any and everything related to him was big frickin' news. I mean, I knew months in advance about the ANgel spinoff because it was on every single news station in Philadelphia. Still, any guy who gets discovered just walking down the street, minding his own business, walking a friend's *dog* has to be pretty cool, and not full of himself <cough cough Leo cough cough>.
Oh, and while speaking of "N'Sync," I saw the scariest thing today. On someone's rear car window, there was a *huge* "I love N'Sync!" sticker. This thing had to go horizontally on the car rear window. It was *huge*. My big brother put it best: "Oh God, I think I'm going to be sick."

Aliens: I just saw the second movie. The first one was really good; this one was good. I will admit that I cheered when Paul Riser's character got killed... I might see the third one, but I'm hesitant to see "Alien Resurrection."

jewel - [jfaulkne@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 05:23:02 PM
IP: 98a9c17d.ipt.aol.com

*gives GB another kiss*
There, that makes up for last night :)

I'm feeling so much better! :) Not sick anymore, thank goodness. It was really bad but I got lots of sleep and did it just what Spacebabie posted. My poor sis still has a runny nose but otherwise she's fine too.

WINTER SOLSTICE PLANS!!!> Just in case the room gets wiped and we can't get back into this week, then I'll post this again just in case. 'Kay, so far the Winter Solstice will not take place on 21st-28th of December, since people will be busy during those days. So, if anybody else has plans on either the 29th or the 30th, please tell me because we maybe will be celebrating on one of these days. Remember, everybody is invited and don't hold back! Also, keep searching for songs that you can type on URL so we will have a wide variety of music to play during the party. Dressing up will be fun, just type in what you're wearing whether it be a ball gown to a dinosaur suit (don't come as Barney. Kill Barney. Now!) You could even dress up as the Tick or one of his arch villains or allies (hehehe). Guests of course can come (aliens allowed...uh...just as long as they are like Spike on BUFFY and can't even think about hurting one of us without getting a major headache). Cyber liquor is allowed, just as long as it is away from the kiddie corner. We will have a complete cyber meal with all sorts of food, and you may bring something if you desire [like brownies. Or some foreign food we've never tried before. Of course you will have to describe what it tastes like (sweet, sour, bitter, greasy, slick, chocolatey, etc.)]. Somebody can invent or bring some games too, of course. Yippee, this is gonna be fun! ^_^

Oh yeah...one more thing...is it true that Broadway is Hudson's son? If this IS true, is Broadway ever going to find out????

Anyway, have to do some chores. I'll post again later. Bye! :)

Anne
MN, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 04:41:07 PM
IP: 209-130-164-168.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Okay, still working on the paper, but I caught an ad for an upcoming show.

To anyone else on this board who watches "Now and Again" with any semblance of regularity: WATCH IT THIS FRIDAY. Or tape it if you must.

From what I can gather: Dr. Morris gets kidnapped, Michael breaks out, Lisa gets approached by a couple of FBI agents, the guy who kidnapped Morris knows Michael's whole story and tries to convince Roger and Lisa of the truth. (He apparently takes Lisa to the townhouse, for crying out loud!)

Best of all: Rene Echevarria wrote the teleplay. (And the last two eps he's written have been among the series' best to date.)

Everyone else, my apologies, and I'll go back to my picking apart of Othello now.

Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 04:06:54 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

Walks in carrying her grey tabby Vixen. She kisses GB and Vixen lands a peck on Attila.

Only saw two of the Christmas cartoons on the WB yesterday:
MIB was twisted,the elves were aliens and that sort of thing. Pokemon...you can tell its an older ep they decided to save until the holidays , cause Misty doesnt have Togepi and Charmander was there. Santa had Jynx's working for him and one of his friends was Lapras who can speak with her mind. and santa's reindeer was a Rhapidash.

Anne> yucky flu I hate getting sick. I hope get well soon eat plenty of soup,toast,and jello

Huh? Goliath is blue? He looks lavender to me...of course broadway appears to me as pale minty green or bluish green

SJ>Do you look like David Boreaniz?(Holds some misletoe over her head) hope you dont mind kissing someone who looks like a younger Susan Sarandon(I've been told this)

ARRRRGH! I have to get a shot tommorow!

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, December 12, 1999 03:19:59 PM
IP: user-37kap5i.dialup.mindspring.com

*runs in, looking a bit panicked*

Do any of you know how I can reach Shauntell Holm? She's done a lot of illustration for TGS....I need to reach her, but I think her AOL account has been canceled. <:P

Any help would be very much appriciated!!

*runs back out to look s'more*

ALi =) - [amw243@is9.nyu.edu]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 02:51:16 PM
IP: c54-190.datanet.nyu.edu

Cough syrup > no, it happens to say "coedine" ... ; )

Today's totally kickbutt thing > found this naughty story, missing scenes from A Midsummer Night's Dream, must be read to be believed! Four stars!
Click or go to http://www.hootisland.com/text/eroticha/dream.html

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 02:18:53 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

*Warpmind skids in, probably for the last time tonight. On his way, he stops and gives all the ladies a swift peck on the cheek beneath the mistletoe.*

Jannie: There's a newsletter? *Scratches head, swears to try to pay more attention in the future.* How, where and when do I subscribe? And the second question: How am I supposed to save enough money for the trip anyway? :( Still, one can never foresee the future, so I might as well keep the possibility at hand...

Christine: Ah, yes, the good cough syrup... so strong, it makes your head swim, and you forget about coughing, along with everything else. Then, the next morning, you have a hangover. Personally, I prefer a shot of *good* scotch...

Coyote: Ah, so this is the charming damsel you've been speaking of. *Turns to XenaTrek and bows.* A pleasure, m'lady. DC is standing right over there, for your convenience. The weapons rack is over there...

Well, catch y'all later... probably some lunatic time tomorrow... after my IT finals... wish me luck... on second thought; a prayer might be better... *Skids out the door, but on the way gives GB a quick pack on the cheek, since he is so conveniently stuck under the mistletoe, anyway.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:47:37 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no



Christine::<Aw, drat, forgot what I was going to say ... (got the _good_ cough syrup
yesterday, wheee!)> Been into Mary Poppin's secret stash again?

Rum Punch... mmm
Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:32:40 PM
IP: spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com

**walks in and pecks XenaTrek on the cheek** Glad everybody's gonna get a chance to meet ya ... folks, be sure to treat her real nice now. This happens to be the real good friend and former girlfriend that I talk about every once in a while, so be nice, guys, okay? **eyeballs DC** She's gonna *love* manhandling you, buddy.

SJ, re: Top Ten: Oh, gawd, that's hilarious! :)

Mary Flanders: Happy belated birthday ... WHEEL 'ER IN, BOYS!!

**moving crew hauls yet another patented Execution^TM cake into the room. Hands Mary a remote.** Pick yer flavor. :)

Delphi: Both of those stories were great ... keep 'em comin'. :)

Wilek, re: Ursus VI: Yeah, I saw that profiled on "The Daily Show" a while back. I'll admit, that'd come in *real* handy if I were gonna do some volcano bungee jumping ... :)

Anonymous: You can't hide yer identity ... you're GoliathGirl, ain'tcha? :)

**strokes Attilla's head. His own cats come in the room to receive a benediction and leave gifts of catnip and $50 bills**

Simon: Yeah, that's why I didn't go past the first two lines. ;)
Sorry about the bummer on your handle, dude, but don't let it get ya down. We know you're no man-whore. :)
Incidentally (and this goes to Stormy too if ya see it), XenaTrek is originally from Canada ... specifically Nova Scotia. Thought ya might be interested. :)

Mara: Told ya this last night, but it bears repeatin' ... great LSOH filk! :)

Marc: I would beg to differ ... in every promotional piece with Goliath, he's lavender. I just got a set of PVC danglers that include Goliath and put the Goliath dangler in my car ... and he's lavender. (gotta love eBay. :)
Besides, whoever said lavender isn't a manly color? Would *you* walk up to Goliath and tell him "you're colored like a girl?" :)

Christine: That cough syrup didn't happen to say "80 proof," did it? ;)

**digs into one of his infinitely deep pockets, pulling out a headband with a sprig of mistletoe hanging under it** Well, since GB's situation kind of forces him to monopolize the room's sprig, I figured I would improvise. :)
**moves around the room giving kisses to all the ladies, making sure not to miss XenaTrek and Mara, before leaving**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:51:49 PM
IP: zzz-209252248073.splitrock.net

Aw, drat, forgot what I was going to say ... (got the _good_ cough syrup yesterday, wheee!)
Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:36:00 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Warped> The G2K has a travel agent who has volunteered her time to locating the cheapest flights, etc. for those who are in need. Do you get the G2K newsletter? Her email addy was listed there. When Denis and I checked over the internet the prices for his flight from Belgium, the cheapest we found was around $1,200. She found it for around $380 :) Nice lady too & she's the mom of a Mini clanner.

Jewel> THANK YOU!! *wipes the drool off of chin* I love the pictures of Angel and have already sent the URL to several of my female friends *g*

Now.. I am in need of some help electronic/computer type help!! I want to buy a digital camera and I have absolutely NO idea of what to look for. I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money, but don't want the cheapest either. I have one spotted and the write up is:
< Polaroid PDC640 Digital Camera with 1.8" LCD Viewfinder, 640x480 resolution, 2MB internal memory and up to 8MB external memory with optional photo card.> plus includes the software. *blinks* I have no idea of what I just said.
I only want the camera for general/fun purposes, nothing professional. However, I would like to take some close up shots (within reason).
Can someone help me?

Anne> sorry to hear about the flu bug going around at your house. Glad to hear that the brat didn't show up at your house though! I'd say you still got the best end of the deal *L*

Jenna> YIPEE!!! you have connected your computer at your new apartment! Is it starting to feel more like home now? =)

Well, I still have a naked Christmas tree that needs decorating.

Thanks in advance for those who can offer me advice and suggestions. I won't ask the sales people at the stores - I have found that I am more knowledgable about these things than they are and *that* is scary! ;D

Jannie - [jgmiller@teacher.esc4.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:33:13 PM
IP: 196-060.c.esc4.net

On a brief break from translation work... checked out Avalon Mists again (catching some stuff I missed last time, etc.) and realized something: I have GOT to get to G2K... I can't wait to see some dame dressing up as the mascot... ;) But seriously... where am I going to get over one grand for airplane tickets? Hmmm... those cargo containers are airtight, right?

Well, sorry about the double post, gotta go again.

Bye for now.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, December 12, 1999 10:06:41 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

TICK > Funny thing about American Maid. Seems that some people must have been annoyed with her animated character design, since it changed between seasons. The first design had the American flag wrapped around her like a towel, and the second design was more apron-like.... but her breasts were enlarged.

The high heels, of course, remained the same.

You have to admit, though, her character *reeks* of political incorrectness. Gotta love it. ;)

Scott - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 10:05:45 AM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Well, a brief check-in before I return to my already tight schedule.

Gunjack Valentine: Weird doohickey? All in a day's work, buddy. All in a day's work... Cute, though, hm?

Simon/Deuce: You have my full sympathy. I'll stay away from that movie, okay? Better now, buddy?

Welcome to our realm of voluntary insanity, XenaTrek. Enjoy your stay... you've been breathing our air, the metamorphosis has begun... BWAHAHAHAAHAAAaaaa... ehum. Please step over to that gentleman over there with the weird vacuum cleaner for proper sanity removal.

Sevarius Jr.: Oooh, you like the Aliens/Predator books, too? I'm unfortunate when it comes to those; I have only found books 1&2... you know if Machiko Noguchi is in any or all of the others? (Guess who is my favorite character in the series.)

The Aliens debate: What can I say that hasn't already been said? Hmmm... Oh, yeah, I liked Resurrection. *Hides behind something solid.* No, seriously, I did. I thought it had promise. Granted, it could be far better, but altogether... it had a few good lines. "Let's ditch the cripple. No offense." "None taken." *Finger.* Plus, Winona Ryder is always a plus...

Marc: Uh, dude... Goliath is purple... You may be slightly color-blind...

*Blinks feverishly.* Hmmm... a thought for an Aliens/Gargoyles crossover... the xenomorphs... don't they gain traits from their hosts? I seem to recall the alien in Alien3 having four feet... imagine how it would be from growing in a gargoyle host (never mind how the stone sleep thing would affect it); would it have wings?

Later, everyone.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, December 12, 1999 06:26:00 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi all!!

XenaTrek:Welcome!

Infinity:<<has anybody here played the Fox Interactive Aliens Versus Predator game? It's incredibly hard. I'm still trying to beat the demo.(even though I've had it for almost a year now! grrrr!)>>Yeah I've got a copy and your right it's tough,I prefer to play as the Alien(Ultra fast,suffers no falling damage,can climb walls and let's not forget those lovely head bites it can do>:) )

Aliens movies:I loved both the first and second Aliens movies,the third was a real let down for me at least and I have still yet to see the fourth.

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sunday, December 12, 1999 06:23:39 AM
IP: 139.134.27.66

Sorry, double post

Attila & Robby> Oops, that was supposed to be BTW, not BYW. Sorry!

Anne
Sunday, December 12, 1999 03:24:18 AM
IP: 209-130-164-133.nas1.apv.gblx.net

*tiredly walks in, doesn't give Green Baron another kiss because she's feeling green--not from GB, from illness. Pets Attila on the head (cats can't get human diseases <gulp>...I hope...)*

Hi all

Ye gadz, I have some good news and bad news. Good news: the little brat that wrecked our house and put our cat in carmel isn't sleeping over tonight. Bad news: The reason she couldn't sleepover is because she has a flu/cold thing going on, which she gave to my sister, which my sister gave to Grandma, which she gave to me, which I gave to mom, and which mom is giving to dad. (!Jalapeno!) I don't feel so well but I'm getting better. :) I just finished one of the best books I've ever read, "Watchers", by Dean Koontz. I swear, this has become by second favorite book! I know it may sound kind of dumb, but it's about this really smart dog that has enhanced intelligence from being experimented on. He escapes from the company while narrowly dodging a killer experiment exactly like him...only this creature is the very plum of hatred and has that monstrosity look that would send the Quarrymen fleeing for there lives at first glance. It's by far the best Koontz novel I've read. :)

Warpmind> <<I seem to recall that Newt was never "impregnated", as it were. The reason her capsule was cracked is quite obvious: the spaceship DID crash, after all...>> I suppose...but at the very beginning, we see the facehugger ontop of Newt's cryo, and it cracks the glass. That's why the acid hit the side of her capsule, because the facehugger got cut on a shard of glass or something (that's how Ripley first suspects there was an alien on board, cus she goes in there and looks sadly at Newt's capsule before looking down and seeing the acid burn mark, followed by the autoupsy). That's what I recall, anyway....

Gunjack> <<Is Clemens the doc, and was this right before he got snuffed?>> Clemens is the doctor, but his suspicious scene with Ripley is midway before he gets killed. I remember him talking to the other people there about the first murder victim, then it goes to the scene where the adult alien makes its move on the three guys setting up candles in the hallways, then Clemens talks to the ruler of the jail place (I can't remember his name), and then the survivor of the alien attack in the hallway is found and brought to the lab, where he witnesses the doc get killed and the alien's bizarre behavior towards Ripley. I believe those are the main events anyway.

Attila> Wow, nine years old huh? Impressive. :) Just remember that my parents were with me while we were watching the movie (I almost broke my mom's fingers when that alien popped out and got Brett!Ye-ow!). BYW, (this goes for ROBBY too!) I would also love a Cagney pic! ^_^

Xenatrek> Welcome to the CR. :)

Alien/Gargoyles Crossover> Hmm...I'd think this is going to be interesting *prints out a half-way finished story about this certain crossover* *ducks* Hey, don't worry! Y'know, Goliath is the same size as one of the aliens. He can lift a car, he can glide, and he doesn't use a gun (which could cause an acid splatter). I think that he could easily take on one alien at a time, if he ducks those tongue punchers. And David, Fox, & Elisa are all ready insured with laser guns...once Elisa gets to Castle Wyvern, I mean. Plus they got Lucky Pucky on their side, plus Alex, plus Titania (if she ever shows up), and Fox is beginning to tap into her magic also. As for the rest of the clan--I think they should hide in the rookery until the battle's over *ducks again*. Hey, you want them killed or something? That would happen too, if they decided to battle along with the others. Just imagine Bronx taking a big bite out of one of the aliens! *pained expression* Oh...poor doggy.... You get the point, right??? But if they were forced to battle...I'd say they better stay airborne!

SJ> If you look like David, then you should definitely consider dying your hair other then black because every girl in the CR is gonna be asking you for kisses (unless you like that). :) Kissy-kissy!

Marc> Goliath is blue? On the TV and snapshots he's a light purple...better fix my TV or somethin'.... I like Charles Dutton too! Boy, I love him in ALIEN 3. Just the scene where Ripley's begging him to kill her makes me edgy because he plays his role so right! :) The movie maybe unsatisfying, but it's him that makes it worthwhile. I have a feeling that Weaver and him would make a good couple (not dating-type) in any movie.

Anyway, my cough is getting worst so I have to get to bed. G'night everyone! ^_^

Anne
MN, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 03:16:18 AM
IP: 209-130-164-133.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Goliath> Okay, maybe my mom forgot to mention that she was carrying that colorblindness gene on her x-chromosome, but why does everything seem to think that Goliath is lavender? He's blue, dangit!! A masuline color, just like every crime-fighing creature of the night should be.

Alien:Resurrection> I thought that movie was a disgrace. I mean come on, Ripley playing basketball? Stupid. I love 1 and 2; after watching Alien when I was 7, I literally had nightmares for years, convinced the alien would come out of my closet every night. And if I stared at my closet, I was afraid he'd come in the window on the other side of my bed. THe only reason I liked 3 was because of my main man, Charles S. Dutton. "We can go out fightin' or on our knees beggin'. Well, I ain't much for beggin'!" Awesome. The only redeeming scene in Alien: Resurrection is when, after Ripley destroys the cloning room, the guy with the beard said, "Must be a chick thing."

Tim P.> Hey, man if you ever need a producer for your screenplays, I'm your man. With my camcorder I've already made classics such as "Drinking Party at Marc's HOuse" and "Drinking party at Marc's Friend's House". Both are documentaries featuring raw, uncut footage of Chicago surburban youth in beautiful anecdotal "slice of life" stories. Witness Marc's friend who, after consuming 7 shots of vodka and placing a cardboard box over his head, is able to ad-lib a news broadcast for almost ten minutes. Who knew velociraptors were alive and well in the himalayas. And, of course, included is the classic scene of Marc's friend Bridgette answering the door and greeting each new arrival with a nice smack across the face.
Really it could work.

God, I've been studying organic for too long.
Marc - [dadigan@uiuc.edu]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:31:00 AM
IP: farm1-cache1.gw.uiuc.edu

Whooo...school is almost out for break! I've got one final left! Whee!

I hope I'm not too late to chime into the Tick discussion. I can't remember who suggested Bruce Campbell as a live-action Tick, but here the thought I've had in my lil head for a couple years now: should they ever make a live action Tick, my beloved Bruce must play Die Fledermaus! I mean, come on! You can't get more perfect than that! I can't really see Bruce as the Tick, anyway. Catherine Zeta-Jones should play American Maid, though. RRRroowww! ;)

I actually dressed as American Maid for Halloween three years ago. Sewed the costume and all. Killed myself in those heels, but I did throw them at a couple people. :)

Hey, does anyone else in here read Alan Moore's "Top Ten?" Freakin' awesome book. Just got my latest issue--ultra-mice!

Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:25:41 AM
IP: ctrts2-1.mrs.umn.edu

Damm! That was supposed to be BIRTHDAY. (grins sheepishly)
Infinity
New Castle, IN, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:14:03 AM
IP: nltc-57-40.nltc.net

Lo'everybody! Long time no chat!

Well, as I was scrolling down trying to get caught up on what everybody's talking about one topic that caught me right away was the debate on the Aliens franchise. Should it continue or should it rest in peace? IMO Aliens2 was one of the best action/thrillers ever made. For some reason, the other three just didn't grab me as much as the second one did. As for reviving the franchise, I'd be all for it if they could find a good director and a great script. But I'd much rather they leave it alone than risk mangling it further. The idea of killing Ripley and then bringing her back as a clone was just dumb. And you'd think if she woke up 200 years in the future everything would be changed. They'd have even more dangerous weapons like lasers. Instead they were still packing the same old pulse rifles. If Fox ever thinks about making an Aliens flick like that again I say stop now and let the series die with dignity.
Also, has anybody here played the Fox Interactive Aliens Versus Predator game? It's incredibly hard. I'm still trying to beat the demo.(even though I've had it for almost a year now! grrrr!)
BTW as I was scrolling I also noticed someone had a birthday soooo HAPPY SIRTHDAY!!!

"This is Ripley, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off."


Infinity
New Castle, IN, USA
Sunday, December 12, 1999 01:09:05 AM
IP: nltc-57-40.nltc.net

Mary Flanders> Happy, happy (belated) birthday! Happy, happy (belated) birthday! :)

"The Chic of G"> *lol* I've never heard anyone gush over the big lavender guy quite like that before.

Is it Sunday night yet? Come on, DA... :)

Who can tell me if we have heaven?
Who can say the way it should be?
Moonlight holly, the Sappho comet,
Angel's tears below a tree.

AotN
Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:24:42 AM
IP: fn-39-21.sssnet.com

Servarius JR:: Jewel: Calm them hormones, girl! He's only a man, for goodness sakes! I see that every time I look in the mirror.....and I'm talking about the upper body when I say "that". Get thee mind out of the gutter!!!

You see David Boreanaz everytime you look in the mirror, you say? And are you single? Jk... just playing..


Unless ofcourse you do look like David Boreanaz...

(homer simpson voice) mmmm Boreanaz...
Mara Cordova~ Solder of Love, Justice and Rasbery Ice tea - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:21:26 AM
IP: spider-wj012.proxy.aol.com

*sneaks out from the shadows to pounce all the handsome men in CR to kiss each of them on the cheek as they pass under the mistletoe* *giggles*
*scratches Rev. Attila behind the ears and kisses his nose*

Simon> hehehehe.. there's NO escaping the mistletoe! ;)

*sneaks back into the shadows, watching SNL on her 2" color TV* ohhhgawww *Laughing and holding sides* did anyone see Mr. Peepers from the Amazon skit for the opening tonight? This has been one of the best Saturday Night Live shows in a loonnggg time! *LMAO*

*waits for more handsome men to come in* ;)

Jannie
Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:58:01 PM
IP: 168-171-197-69.academicplanet.com

***BEGIN RP***
Dyspare began the arduous task of finding the demon-inhabited body of Sevarius Jr. "I always get the hard jobs," he moaned in self-pity. "Now, where would I find a demon who thinks he's a human? Hmm...perhaps I should just head for the recreational decks. If there's any of Sammael in that body, he'll be dying to have some fun."
With that, the diminutive demon began to move about the station, taking great care to make sure he was invisible to any prying eyes...
***END RP***

***BEAST MACHINES SPOILERS****
BWAH HA HA HA!!!! Oh, I wish I could go back and pick my exact words on Beast Machines from the archives....but I do believe I said something way back when that Silverbolt was Jetstorm, Tankor was Rhinox, and Thrust was Waspinator!! Ah, SCORE!!! GOAL!!!! It makes perfect sense. Tankor was the easy one, cause you know they'd give Rhinox the appropriate big guy robot persona. And I just knew that Silverbolt would be Jetstorm; no matter how hard they tried to pull the wool over our eyes, I never totally bought it. And that leaves only one more Maximal/Predicon, and who else was high profile enough to get that distinction? Waspinator!!!
Ah, it feels good to gloat. Sorry if I sound arrogant. It's not often I'm right about anything, but this, this I can proudly say that I nailed it. ;-p
***END SPOILERS***

Aliens: I'm sorry, but I feel that if any franchise deserves to be put to rest, it's this one. The first movie was a pretty good suspense sci-fi flick. The second was just a mindless action pic, but a fun one. The third movie could have been interesting, was a complete dud. Alien Resurrection....despite my affection for the underrated Michael Wincott (Top Dollar kicks ASS!), I didn't dig it. The books I've read were horrible (the only decent ones were the Alien/Predator fight books). Unless they finally get their stuff together and make that Aliens vs. Predator movie, I say just let the franchise rest on its laurels.

Jewel: Calm them hormones, girl! He's only a man, for goodness sakes! I see that every time I look in the mirror.....and I'm talking about the upper body when I say "that". Get thee mind out of the gutter!!!
Honestly, I don't know, for some reason, I don't find David Boreanaz threatening. He seems cool to me. I don't have any of the same mindless, blind hatred with David that I have for those other, Aryan Nation posterboys (Leo Dicaprio, the boys of N*Sync, Ryan Phillippe, etc.). Dave seems like a cool guy.

Deuce Bigalow, Male Gigolo: Don't believe the hype about this movie. And when I say that, I mean forget the reviews and bad press--this movie is actually FUNNY! I didn't post a review, but I did see this flick yesterday (debated seeing this over the Green Mile, but personally, I don't have a great love for Tom Hanks). It was pretty damn funny, actually. Reminded me a little of a flick like Tommy Boy, in the fact that it is way funnier than it should be. I dug Rob Schneider as a male whore. The narcolepsy woman was fun, but nothing beats Tourette's syndrome!
Then again, I do have a very warped sense of humor. But I enjoyed the film.

Green Baron: OJ is actually a Republican? Hmm, maybe we can recruit Charles Manson next. Or Timothy McVeigh. Then we'll have a whole bunch of known murderers in our midst. Maybe OJ could run for office with Patsy Ramsay as his running mate....Somebody would have to be hired as a first lady, though, cause OJ kind of got rid of his own.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:56:22 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Mara> Where exactly does one acquire these SD pets? :)

*music eerily reminscent to the Little Shop of Horrors soundtrack, she is even dressed up like Seymour..which is just... scary. SD angie-chan and SD Demmie-cahn are singing doo-wop in teh back*

I was walking in the Wholesale Crappy Merchadise District that day.
And I passed by this place where this old Japanese man...
He sometimes sells me weird and exotic Anime plushies.
'Cuase he knows, you see that, well, Xelloss Metallium
is my hobby.
He didn't have anything unusual there that day.
So I was just about to, you know, walk on by.
When suddenly, and without warning,
There was this...
(Total eclipse of the Sun)
It got very dark...
And there was this strange humming sound,
Like something from another world...
And when the light came back this wierd plushie of Demona was just sitting there.
Just, you know, stuck in, uh-among the Pikachus.
I coulda sworn it hadn't been there before.
But the old Japanese man sold it to me anyways.
For nine-ninty-five.


Sorry... I just cant help myself...
Mara Cordova~ Solider of Love, Justice and Rasberry Ice Tea. - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:54:23 PM
IP: spider-wj012.proxy.aol.com

GSide> <<Demon's Crest: It is a "semi-sequel" to a series of Gargoyles Quest games on the NES and Game boy :)>> I have a ROM of the NES version. :) Pretty kewl, although the SNES game was the best IMHO...

Warpmind> <<An Alien/Gargoyles crossover? I'm not sure, but you might want a word with Wilek about that one. :)>> I'm flattered. ;) The bugs do exist in my ficverse, but their origin and background aren't what you'd expect...Their homeworld is a bizarre little place called Mundi Tenebricosi; they were engineered by the native sentient species as a biological weapon. O_o

Gunjack> <<The book is called "Music of the Spears", I believe...>> Ah. Thanks, friend; now I know what to look for at Borders. ^_^ <<Maybe I'm a closet quarryman, but I don't mind evil gargoyles...>> Me neither, really (Thailog's a fun villain), long as the whole species isn't depicted that way...<<Wilek, if you let the creepers anywhere NEAR Manhattan, you should at least hand out the pulse rifles and smartguns to the Manhattan clan...>> Not that they'll be in any condition to use them by then...But worry not, the only xenomorphs currently on Earth in my ficverse are an altered breed of facehuggers that don't have implantation organs. An aquatic race called the Psyll created them as natural gas masks/scuba gear, for the benefit of air-breathing visitors to the large ocean that passes for the Psyll homeworld. (Isn't galactic trivia fun?)

Aaron> <<I won't press my luck after whatever Wilek did to it.>> Hehe. That serum was generated using a modified version of the chaotic fractal mutagen that created the tree. Not sure what it'll do, but I'm sure GB is getting nervous about the fact that the plant is growing little mosquito wings. <<Wilek> I think DC wants to buy that suit.>> Not that it'll help; I doubt it can repel a light anti-tank weapon...hehe...

Deu--er, Simon> <<Wilek, you'll get a hatching day present early.... And I have the perfect idea, too.>> Ooh...something tells me I'm going to enjoy this. ^_^ <<Sorta floating over everything, and you notice none of it seems real? Time is kinda fluid and it's Thursday before Monday is even over?>> I've had times like that. Hm...odd that it seems to be happening to so many of us at once...

Fire Storm> <<show called "Sex Bites" that showed clowns VERY sexual. Ewwww! Anyone else in here seen that show?>> No, and I thank all the pantheon that I haven't...

XenaTrek> Welcome! Have the artist formerly known as Deuce claim your sanity. Sanity is boring anyway...

Mara> Where exactly does one acquire these SD pets? :)

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:45:27 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

*walks into the CR room, giving GB his little Misletoe kissy. She is followed by her regular retinue of SD pets, SD Angie-chan and SD Demmie-chan giving GB a misletoe kiss as well, SD Xelloss-kun just smiles at him suggestively*

Hi folks! Mmmm just woke up from a seven hour nap I took this afternoon, so I may just see the sun rise for once.

On Lexington being evil: I always sort of viewed Lexy as being "the smart one" of the Trio. If you watch Margaret Cho, she explian, whneever you have three people (mostly for females but it works this time) You have "the smart one" Lexington, "the sweet one" Broadway... leaving Brooklyn to be "the hoe". Hee hee... works... doesn't it? But after watching Future Tense (by and large my favorite Gargoyle ep for the mere twistedness of it...) my opinion changed a little in his favor... the fact that there is a potential for great evil under all the goodness. And as we all know by my taste in anti-heroes... Mara LIKE evil.

Unnamed Goliath fan:: "(sing)MARA, MARA, MARA C.: "

Oh How i love it when People chant my name... Do it again!
Louder!

Wow... never thought my Rapture series could affect anyone. Look, it's not a personal attack on the G-man. (although he isn't my fave character) You have to see it from Ronnie's point of view. From thr time Demona came into her life in '89 until '94 when Goliath awoke, Demona probably hailed him as something of a God, still in love with him, more or less. So after '94 when they became enemies, her opinion of him would have changed dramatically in a negative way, which ofcourse would affect Ronnie (Rapture, but I like refering to her with Brooklyn's pet name), her daughter. Ronnie being extremely protective of Demona (always refered to as Dominique in the story) to begin with would take Golaith's nobility as a factor in "betraying" Demona. Ronnie's never forgiven him of that fact, so she thinks of him in a berating manner. HE doesn't "lose control" in teh sense you're thinking. As of now, Ronnie is trying to lead the clan away from him in an attempt to fill Demona's life. But knowing how GARGOYLES usually works... rest assured, it ain't gonna happen.

Reverend Attila> I like your work. It always makes me purr :)

MEOW!

Jewel:: Just a real quick post... Ladies, for any of you that thinks the guy who plays "Angel" is a hottie. Click on my name. All I have to say is, "Picture number 10. Daaaaaaa-yyyummmm." OK, off for my cold shower...

Omigod... wow. That is one fine looking man. I'm reminded of a snatch of poetry I found in a great songfic once..

Tango with darkness, held in violet bonds
Liek prison chains, like sweet bondage
Dance with the devil, but hold the body of an angel...

*tangoes with SD Xelloss out of the room, other SD pets following close behind and leaving GB goodbye mistletoe kisses. Sd Xelloss runs back in and give GB a great big whopper of a kiss the rus back out laughing like a mad man...*
Mara Cordova~ Solider of Love, Justice and Rasberry Ice Tea. - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:26:47 PM
IP: spider-wj012.proxy.aol.com

Hi! Coyote suggested that I check out this room, gain some friends. Since I already know Coyote, GB and now Mara... I guess I am off to a good start.

GB... this is for you, enjoy! :o) *see GB under the doorway, looking at his feet... for reasons unbeknowst to him, they don't want to move.... she sees the misletoe dangling above... walks up behind him, turns him around and gives him a long passioned kiss*

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:43:08 PM
IP: spider-wj063.proxy.aol.com

Sevarius Jr> ROTFLMSAO<Tick: "Arthur! I don't recall you having large, hypnotic, bulbous breasts before> now THERE'S a sentence I never thought I'd see
shogun raptor
Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:36:09 PM
IP: miami-trans1.firn.edu

WEll, I'm at last got internet up at the new place ^_^

Marc- thailog is the main focus of my story, but Lex comes in later. I must inform you however that I am a notrious slow writer. So you'll have to wait- sorry ..

jenna
Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:13:12 PM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-122.hstntx.swbell.net

Mary>>happy bday, hope you had a good one

well I'm really beat tonight so here's another cute story

> The Lost Purse

>A lady lost her handbag in the bustle of Christmas shopping. It was found by an honest little boy and returned to her.
Looking in her purse, she commented, "Hmmm.... That's funny. When I lost my bag there was a $20 bill in it. Now there are twenty $1 bills."

The boy quickly replied, "That's right, lady. The last time I found a lady's purse, she didn't have any change for a reward."

catch ya'll next time

delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:04:23 PM
IP: twin57h.magiclink.com

Hi all.

Thought I'd drop in on the current (just winding down?) Alien discussion.

Of course, I love the movies. It continues to surprise me, however, how many people absolutely despised 3 and think Resurrection was well-done. I thought Alien 3 was a let-down, granted. I saw it at the threatres not long after just seeing the first two films for the first time (when they first came out, they were before my time). I recall that the thing that sparked my interest was the take-off in "Spaceballs", where the chest-buster does a counter-top dance. I'd seen similar stuff in other comedy movies/tv shows. There must be a movie upon which all of these take-offs are originating, I concluded, and off to the video store I went...

After the scope was broadened so much in Aliens, it was disappointing to have it dwindled down to where it was even more contained than the first movie. No more of Hicks, Bishop, or Newt. No resolution to The Company. So, yeah, a let-down. But still terrifying; still effective. In reality, it _was_ well-made. It just wasn't what we wanted. It was unsatisfying, but effective... if that doesn't sound like a contradiction. And on repeat viewings, you gotta admit - Ripley's death was well-handled.

Now, Resurrection, on the other hand... was _not_ well-made. I thought it felt like a b-flick trying to fool us into thinking it was an a-flick. It was corny, and the aliens were so unterrifying.

Regarding scripts, most of Anne's links were dead, so I went searchin' and found the site linked through my name. *shrug* Just in case. It has 2 alternate scripts for Alien 3, and one for Resurrection, in addition to one for Aliens vs. Predator. Now, if they were gonna make a 4th film, why go through that whole contrived process of bringing Ripley back for Resurrection when they could've made the crossover to end all crossovers?! *sigh*

Has anyone read the wood-planet/monastary script? I liked that one tremendously:

***SPOILERS***

Still no Hicks, Bishop, or Newt. But I think Bishop recieves a fine replacement (much better than the female one in Resurrection, anyway...) and compared to the one that got made, it's just a lot more interesting.

***END***

Entity
Saturday, December 11, 1999 06:54:19 PM
IP: ely-oh4-17.ix.netcom.com

NO NO NO NO NO!

A time of PEACE!

DERN YOU LOT BOYS! DERN YOU ALL TO HECK!

Fire Storm
Saturday, December 11, 1999 05:59:40 PM
IP: t2-47.visitus.net

Wilek: <ndeed? Sounds...interesting. :) >
Don't worry. It's not. Although it IS a story of manipulation and deception, of love and war, and of gifts given.
ALSO, it is about a show called "Sex Bites" that showed clowns VERY sexual. Ewwww! Anyone else in here seen that show?

Anne: < I have the 2nd & 3rd issues of Alien 3 in comicbooks >
Well then, scan them and post them! :)

Gunjack: <Huh? Did I miss something?>
Probally. "The Fire" is not exactly a time of piece in one of the games I play. I just LOVE mentioning that game.

Xenomorphs in Manhattan: Not that I haven't thought about writing a story like this, but I don't think I would. A few people could probally guess which side would win if I wrote it.

Deuce: <I've been getting ribbed about it for weeks!>
I am SO glad that no one joked when the movie that used my name came out... or the power tools.
Trurth be told, I didn't know 'firestorm' was a word until the movie came out. I just picked Fire Storm because Iceman was taken.

<Fire-Storm> ends his transmission with praise to <FIRST THOUGHT//GIVER-OF-WILL>

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 05:58:46 PM
IP: t2-47.visitus.net

Just a real quick post... Ladies, for any of you that thinks the guy who plays "Angel" is a hottie. Click on my name. All I have to say is, "Picture number 10. Daaaaaaa-yyyummmm."
OK, off for my cold shower...


jewel
Saturday, December 11, 1999 05:06:02 PM
IP: 98ac4a87.ipt.aol.com

Gunjack: <<He got dragged down a friggin' alien hole, and the fussion blast would have wiped him even if the aliens didn't...>> True, but he still had his rifle, and was going down kicking and screaming "Fuck you!". And there's nothing more dangerous than a motivated Marine and his rifle. As far as getting off the planet, it would have to be in a fashion that's believable and as loony as Hudson is. Maybe finding an escape pod hidden in a box of hamdingers? ;)

ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: You can't just go out and kill all these things! These animals have rights!

HUDSON: Bullshit. They have the right to be eaten with garlic and butter.

BISHOP markII: You might want to load up on some TUMS afterwards.

Tim P.
Saturday, December 11, 1999 04:08:31 PM
IP: s6-onawa.pionet.net

Season's Greetings to all. My finals are done, I'm headed home, and so I may not be in the CR much between now and then (which is Jan 10. School has been delayed a week thanks to possible Y2K problems. And considering the computers in this school ALREADY suck...)

*It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine* (Great Big Sea version of course*

Green Baron: I think Wagner has lost track of his hits even BEFORE the soccer moms took the last tape of "Hogan's Heroes" out of Zeller's video department... :-)

That pic (linked here) came from this total crab salesclerk who went psycho on us at Coles' bookstore...ever since, we shop at Chapters. ;-) And i got a good pic out of it. The best revenge...

Green Baron: A favour for the holidays...don't send any forwards to my university address *see above* I've had problems with my inbox and I don't want it crashing in the month I'm gone. THanks.

Stormy - [mpletsch@julian.uwo.ca]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 03:41:40 PM
IP: dynixpc4.huron.uwo.ca

Anonymous> ["...are you the same Deuce that is appearing in theaters soon?;)"] NO! NO NO NONONONO! I saw a poster for that monstrosity when I went to go see Pokémon... I've been getting ribbed about it for weeks! On that note, I'm posting with my real name until everyone forgets about it. Yuckyuckyuck. I mean, it would be at least tolerable if it were a good movie, but everyone I know who's seen it, and every review I've read says it SUCKS. Boo-hoo, my name is being sullied and there's nothing I can do....

I had to go to a "family get-together" last night. God, that sucked. I spent most of the night kicking my friend's ass at You Don't Know Jack and the two of us trying to convice our moms to let us have a beer. (The fact that it would never happen is what makes it fun.) But I would have rather spent it with friends, with one in particular.... *drifts off, dreaming of Catherine*

*comes back to earth* Sorry. It's the Christmas thing.

Christmas plans: I'll be offline from the 22nd to the 28th (roughly). Wilek, you'll get a hatching day present early.... And I have the perfect idea, too.

SOROW re: family sh!t> Oh, I know what that's like. OH, I know what that's like. *hugs of sympathy* I'm here if you need to vent. [re: older] I think I'm almost the baby of the room at 15 1/2. :-)

Jannie> Mistletoe?! Not again.... (We did this last year; it got fairly difficult to avoid.) *kotc*

Coyote the Red-Faced Bando> "And if you ever saw him, you would say he should really pay closer attention to his replies...." No, that doesn't work either. ;-)

Mary Flanders> Welcome back! *hugs* Happy birthday, too... and you know what's coming.... BIRTHDAY BUMPS!! ** with help from a few others, Simon swings her up and bumps her 17 times, and one more for good luck ** Happy b-day; hope you have a good one.

Jaden> ["I keep waking up and expect something to be going on, but it's like the entire world is off balance."] Yeah, I kinda know what you mean. Sorta floating over everything, and you notice none of it seems real? Time is kinda fluid and it's Thursday before Monday is even over?

Marc> Are you new here? I'm assuming you've left your sanity with my Auto-Sanity Remover (specially designed for my long absences).

Oh, clickie my name for a really cool comic by a local artist that's gaining popular acclaim all over the place. DAMN, this guy's cool.

** tiptoes out, avoiding mistletoe as best as he can **

Simon - [NOT_a_gigolo@curtain.cjb.net]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 03:33:23 PM
IP: ppp166.connect.ab.ca

**Reverend Attila pops up into the CR and sees GB trapped under the mistletoe enjoying his special treatment, so he decides to hop onto his arms to receive some special treatment, too.**

Now, ladies you can kiss Green Baron and his kitty, too :) And I'm a eunech :)

Anne> Don't forget me, and I'm only nine, so I'm closer to you in age :)

Orange poster> Why, welcome back, Angie :) Or shoudl I say GoliathGirl :)

Gunjack and Anne> That young for Aliens, huh!! GB had some fourth grade religion teacher who told him it was a sin to watch R rated movies until he was 17, along with everyone in the class. He was afraid to see any until he turned 12 (he was 10 at the time he was told that) :) I doubt he'll tell me much more in confidence, now.

::GB stares at him:: Oops, forgot who was holding me. Good thing he's stuck and enjoying it, or I'd be swimming right now :) I could also get an accurate shot at him right now :)
::GB looks nervous::

SOROW> Before the room wiped, GB gave you a big bearhug since your dad pulled that on you. I'm surprised you didn't notice the mistletoe :)

Mary Flanders> Happy Birthday.

Jessie Feff> Now, that is a good way to delurk :) Maybe I should start wearing bowties, too....nah!!

Robby> Is there any possibility of a Cagney pic for here?

Mara Cordova> I like your work. It always makes me purr :)

SJ> Another fun fact: OJ Simpson is a Republican, too. Ain't that ironic.





Reverend Attila - [revattila@catsrule.garfield.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Saturday, December 11, 1999 03:30:04 PM
IP: 141.164.133.110

Aaron enters the CR, first powering up his patented Scrooge-field generator, which renders him completely invulnerable to mistletoe. Although I won't press my luck after whatever Wilek did to it.

Well, guess who's working overtime. One of the lawyers just told me to go do something devient on the internet until he needed me, so here I am.

Wilek> I think DC wants to buy that suit.

The unnamed orange poster> Well yes, but that's why Lex is so cool as a villian. You never expect it to be the cute little guy.

Later.

Aaron looks back at the door, and then decides to rappell out the window, since the mistletoe seems to be moving.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Saturday, December 11, 1999 02:19:19 PM
IP: ppp-15.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Aaagh... that last post submitted while I was just getting started...
Anyway, I just got in touch with one of my GURPS buddies. Looks like I'm finally gonna get to finish that mission that's been going for the LAST TWO YEARS! and all I've gotta do is think up a sweet finish...

Sarge - Loved the top ten! <<3. And do you Xanatoos take Fox Renard as your awful bedded wife....I men lawful wedded...>> In the name of the father, the son, and the holy spigot... Uh, spirit...:)

SJ><<Of all the clan, he has the potential to be perhaps the most dangerous foe. Brooklyn has too much honor, Broadway is far too gentle, Angela is far too goody-goody, but Lex....if Lex wanted to be bad, he would be BAD.>> And despite "once bitten, twice shy", he's also the most likely to keep a situation secret until it gets totally out of hand...
By the way, loved the Tick Top Ten. :D

Firestorm><<After "The Fire," there was a time of renewed peace and prosperity for all of humanity.>> Huh? Did I miss something?

Tick Quotes - My personal favorite is from when he was fighting the dwarfed, electricly cloning santa: "Look out, Arthur! It's A YULE TIDE!!"

Mary F. - I THOUGHT we were missing someone! Welcome Back!

Wilek><<Alien stuff> I remember encountering this novel at Waldenbooks, but I forget the title...it was about this insane composer who was torturing humans and a xenomorph he'd named Mozart (I think) and recording their screams to use in his music. Sounds interesting; don't know why I didn't buy it at the time...>> The book is called "Music of the Spears", I believe... <<Gargoyles in games> One game I can think of that isn't a great offender against gargs is, ironically enough, Demon's Crest. The titular demons are demonic in name only; they're very gargesque in appearance and personality, and the only evil gargs to be seen are two of the major villains, Arma and Phalanx. Except for the exceedingly unfortunate misnomer, it's actually rather kewl...>> I've never gotten to play this series, but it always looked like a kick... Maybe I'm a closet quarryman, but I don't mind evil gargoyles... I especially liked the nasties from GURPS "Blackops"; sure they're evil, but they still kick serious hiney...:) << Maybe...was she implanted with an alien embryo before she died? That would work; xenomorphs have a sort of genetic memory (that's why Ripley's clone retained her memories; the implantation alters the host's DNA; see my name link for lots of essays about the things). Other than that...I'm not sure what could be done, unless her body has been in stasis almost since the moment of her death, so her neural patterns can be extracted and copied.>> See my last post, about the EEV medical scan. I'm not sure how detailed those are, but it's a possibility... <<Sorry for the 2x post, but...click my name. Y'all *have* to see this...>> Huh... not quite powered armor, but gettin' close...

A><<Brooklyn: 40%({Ducks}Hey, it's quite a possibility. Don't hit me! Please! Oh, please... not the hose! Anything but the hose...)>> That could REALLY be taken the wrong way... <<Please don't hurt poor Goliath. Has he not suffered enough? Has he not been verbally beaten and battered in countless numbers fics? His reputation slandered? Made to look like a fool or a horrid being? (shudder sob) Please, leave the great "G" alone.>> Man, you're gonna hate me when I get my fanfics done... Think about it. Goliath is the leader, the point man, and the most visible and impressive of the clan. To some extent, he ias the embodiment of the clan, and so when an attack comes, he bears the brunt.

Warpmind><<An Alien/Gargoyles crossover? I'm not sure, but you might want a word with Wilek about that one. :)>> That's what I was thinking, too. All I can say is, Wilek, if you let the creepers anywhere NEAR Manhattan, you should at least hand out the pulse rifles and smartguns to the Manhattan clan...
By the way, Warps, that was an extremely wierd doohickey you sent me...:D

Anne - *blinks* Uh, must have missed that part... I'll take your word for it, though... Is Clemens the doc, and was this right before he got snuffed?

Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:57:24 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.239.73.dallas1.level3.net

Wilek> Demon's Crest: It is a "semi-sequel" to a series of Gargoyles Quest games on the NES and Game boy :)
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:48:59 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Well, checking in again briefly.

Gunjack Valentine: Don't ask how; be creative and think up solutions for yourself. :) Maybe a time warp?

Anne: I seem to recall that Newt never was "impregnated", as it were. The reason her capsule was cracked is quite obvious: the spaceship DID crash, after all...

Well, on to other reality variations...

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:17:23 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*While passing in, kisses Green Baron*

Hi everybody :)

*sigh* Looking back at my posts, I realize that I was kinda harsh on ALIEN 3 & 4, didn't mean to sound that crazy.... Anyway, on to replies....

Marc> Thank you for the compliments except my fanfic isn't up just yet...we need to get more memory so I can install the html files and stuff like that. But the good news is that when we can get all the goodies, I'll be sending in at least three fanfics that I've written all ready: Distrust (#1), "New Fates" (#2), & "Something from the Wicked" (#3) (you'll be getting plenty of the trio in #1 & 3 BTW!) :)

Wilek> <<Was she (Newt) implanted with an embryo before she died?>> I'm not exactly sure. In the movie they find nothing during the autoupsy but I've heard that in the comicbooks (which were staying strictly to the scenes of the movie) Newt did have an embryo but it was still in her throat and not in her chest--she drowned before that could happen, I guess. :( I'm thinking that perhaps her body was too little to support a Queen embryo and that's why the facehugger went to Ripley with the real Queen embryo instead of transferring it into Newt (which partially explains why both Ripley and Newt had cracked cryotubes). I have the 2nd & 3rd issues of Alien 3 in comicbooks but I can't find the first issue, so I don't know if this information is real or not....

Gunjack> Thank-you for the compliments! :) As I've all ready mentioned, I was being pretty hard on the last two alien movies, except I wish they had made more sense. I don't know how the eggs got on board the Sulaco, but this one person said in the book (so once again this could or couldn't be real) that the company installed the eggs on the Sulaco. And as for the sex *g*, don't you remember that after the cremations (and after Ripley goes bald, and after she gets a first glimpse of the other bald men, and after the alien makes it first kill in the airducts) that she's lying in bed with Clemens? My first thought was "Why does she have that goofy smile on her face?", and when he started saying, "I have to get back to work", she rubs his arm and they talk sweetly to each other, then she says *in a seductive voice*, "You're spoiling the mood.".... That's a giveaway I think.... And if it isn't, sorry....

SOROW> I'm glad to hear things are working out, and as for your dad, I hope he works his own personal things out without it involving you or anybody else :)

Christine> Thanks for the info. on Frasier. Now I can't wait to see next week! ^_^

Warpmind & Tim> Thanks for telling me, I was wondering because I thought it was U.S.M. Auriga but a few sites I went to called it "U.S.S. Auriga". Again thank-you! :)

Tim> If your screenplay buys, then I'll _definitely_ go see it and I'll bring the popcorn and all (I love seeing movies on a huge screen outside the theatres and in the car *g* Does anybody else do this?) Touchstone eh? That a switcher. A good switcher. Goooooood. Do Touchstone and Fox often work together? Or are you going to completely ignore Fox...just wondering. :)

Jenna> <<You cannot be a dad without a mate, now can ya? ^_^>>Whooboy...better meld my lips together before ALL my secrets of fanfic tumble out... :)

Bye all!

*Gives Green Baron a second kiss before walking out*

Anne
MN, USA
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:07:16 PM
IP: 209-130-164-144.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Jenna - :P Sympathies on the coworker... I don't supose smacking her a few times would help the situation? <<What if propshey walks in the back way , instead of the front- what if what happens to Lex- the implants only here- turns out to be for the good[?]>> This is something I've thought about alot, too. Just because an event is tragic, doesn't mean that it should be changed. Changing short-term sadness can lead to long-term dispair...

Timm Phipps - How're you gonna bring back Hudson? He got dragged down a friggin' alien hole, and the fussion blast would have wiped him even if the aliens didn't... Sounds pretty final to me...
As to the feasability of cloneing Ripley, I've always thought that the reason they could was because she put herself through a full medical scan on the EEV just before she died...


Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:06:31 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.239.73.dallas1.level3.net

Uhhhh. Up until 3 in the morning studying chem, and now off to computer exercises six hours later. But. . .must. . .contribute. . .to. . .board.

Sevarius/The Tick> Oh, man did I love that cartoon. "The earth! They can't destroy it; that's where I keep all my stuff!" And there was the villain whose head was a chair. I think Bruce Campbell would be perfect too.

Spiderman> Yeah, I would much rather have Fincher direct it, but supposedly whichever studio is making it seemed to want to make it a PG type film which is sort of against the trend of comic book movies. Fincher with a PG movie might not work, though I hate all of Columbus's movies with a passion. You know who I'd like to see direct it are the Cohn brothers. That's unlikely but think how they're sense of humor could fit with Peter Parker.

Jenna/Anne> I'll look out for your fanfics. I took a peak at the Misbegotten Son Saga, and seemed to be all about Goliath and Thailog which isn't my cup of tea. Goliath was cool but got way too much air time for my Trio-loving taste.



Marc - [dadigan@uiuc.edu]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:00:28 AM
IP: farm1-cache1.gw.uiuc.edu

Back again, folks.

Kathy: The link still don't work.

Spike: I'm still having e-mail complications, it seems, so here's a business proposal: I have found out what my sister wants for her 18th birthday: a painting of the cast of Gargoyles, preferrably done by you. Obviously, this is a huge job, so if you accept this challenge, what on earth can I offer as payment? Give it some thought, will you?

Sarge: Lay your problems on us, mate. We might manage to counsel. Though I make no promises... after all, how bad can it really be? Yet another awesomely amusing Top Ten, by the way.

Delphi: Great story. As for the microphone problem: Try adjusting the volume? When you turn the microphone on and hold it in front of your speakers, you should get the Lightsaber Sound (TM) that George Lucas used for the Star Wars movies. (Or at least the original trilogy.) When that happens, it works.

Sevarius Jr.: Okay, if that list becomes reality... I think I'll be just as happy without any actual knowledge of "The Tick"...

Jaden: The world has been off balance since Adam ate the apple, my friend...

Gunjack Valentine: An Alien/Gargoyles crossover? I'm not sure, but you might want a word with Wilek about that one. :)

Wilek: Ooooh, I want that suit... Imagine walking down the street in that baby... For some reason, my mind insists on "Suburban Commando", starring Hulk Hogan... As for seeing Ripley with whip and dagger... Bad hormones, BAD hormones. Sit! Stay! Go stand in the corner!

Well, that about covers it... for now. I just might drop by again before I leave this Computer Room... if the Gods and the LAN Server are willing... Later, everyone.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, December 11, 1999 09:57:53 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Forgot to put my new e-mail address(it has a lovely ring to it, does it not). Please, people, tell me why some of you not like Goliath and dis him and all that.
Guess again. - [TheChic_of_G]
WA, USA
Saturday, December 11, 1999 08:07:28 AM
IP: dial141.b1.tnt4.wa.freei.net

I would have to say that I agree with Marc on that Brooklyn and Lexington "who would most likely be the bad guy?" thing. Brooklyn's kinda shadey and all with his bad boy additude and slighty rebellious type of personality. Lexington has this bright, open, curious personality about him and I honestly think that I would trust him more than Brooklyn, and he is less like to be a villain than Brooklyn(I think it is possible for Lex to become a villain. I don't entirely rule it out) Yeah, part of it is the looks thing,(I try not to judge a book by its cover but sometimes I just can't help it. I'm only human.) Brooklyn kinda looks a little scary, while Lexington is small and cutesy. Now honestly tell me if you were child in a hanging of a cliff or building or something and these two you-don't-know-what-the-h#ll-ares (Brooklyn and Lexington) are on the building and they both stick out their hands for you to grab: Who's hand would you grab? My honest answer: Lexingtons of course! He's more friendly looking and more approachable.
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MOST LIKELY TO TURN VILLAIN(voluntarily)IN THE WYVERN CLAN % LIST:
Angela: 1% (Ha!)
Broadway: 3% (Ha, again!)
Brooklyn: 40%({Ducks}Hey, it's quite a possibility. Don't hit me! Please! Oh, please... not the hose! Anything but the hose...)
Goliath: 9.5% (Yeah, I know he's no saint but... I mean... ya know, he too regal, too honorous, too... too loyal and kind-hearted and never goes against his own word...)
Hudson: 2% (scoffs)
Lexington: 14% (Uhh...well...can't explain this one...)
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(sings)MARA, MARA, MARA C.: One question: In what way does mah poor ol' fav Goliath loses control? Does he lose control of events or does he go nuts or something? (Gives a pleading look)(Dramatically with that sad violin music playing in the backround) Please don't hurt poor Goliath. Has he not suffered enough? Has he not been verbally beaten and battered in countless numbers fics? His reputation slandered? Made to look like a fool or a horrid being? (shudder sob) Please, leave the great "G" alone. Find another "whippin' boy", pick on someone else. Why must it be Goliath, I mean, he's a great character. He's a diamond, a jewel, one in a million; he's got flaws(which makes him a believable character), I know, but they pale in the glory of his great personality.(you gag) When ya pick on him, I get ta actin' like a fool. I hate actin'like a fool. When will people give him the respect he deserves? Not necessarily like him but respect him. What does it take, huh? Why do you people pick on Goliath and call him names and say he's too stiff and stuff? Why? Tell me why? Please. Well enough of my getting out my feelings so you people know why I take things said about Goliath seriously. When ever someone says something bad about G, I feel as though you're saying I have a crappy judge of character or something and it hurts my feelings(I don't know why. I guess I take anything I feel strongly about seriously)and when someone hurts my feelings I tend to react unpleasantly verbally and rarely, if you push me far enough, physically. I only got physical once but that's a story for another day. Jeez, can I go on and on or what? Bye, I hope this was entertaining to read. Have you guessed who I am? It should be obvious now.

Guess. Hint: (sounding p*ssed, no scratch that. Sounding b*tchy.
Saturday, December 11, 1999 08:00:29 AM
IP: dial141.b1.tnt4.wa.freei.net

Hi all!!

Mary Flanders:Welcome back and happy birthday!

Jaden:<<Hey people...Is it just me or does everything seem really slow this week. I mean it's like things are just set to crawl mode. I keep waking up and expect something to be going on, but it's like the entire world is off balance. I don't know is it just me?>>I think it's because of all the room wipes this week(ruined some interesting conversations they did:()

Gargoyles in games:The Ultima series had Gargoyles in it and they were also a sentient race(There were some differences though,they had two types of Gargoyle,Winged and wingless for example)and not just another Evil type of monster to be killed.

Delphi re first grade story:<<The teacher was unable to teach for the next 10 minutes.>>I'm not suprised*LOL*!!:)

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Saturday, December 11, 1999 06:22:23 AM
IP: melnc01.bigpond.com

Sorry for the 2x post, but...click my name. Y'all *have* to see this...
Wilek again
Saturday, December 11, 1999 02:45:10 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

[Wilek and Miriam stride in, to see that they've walked under hanging mistletoe. They cast sly looks at each other...then Miriam sprays the mistletoe with a strange blue liquid. The plant glows briefly, whereupon the leaves turn a gloss black.] That was a refined version of the mutagen used on the tree bouncer thingie. Fun is soon to ensue...

Anne> <<clone her specifically so she can remember her past (I dunno how but I'm sure you can make something up).>> Maybe...was she implanted with an alien embryo before she died? That would work; xenomorphs have a sort of genetic memory (that's why Ripley's clone retained her memories; the implantation alters the host's DNA; see my name link for lots of essays about the things). Other than that...I'm not sure what could be done, unless her body has been in stasis almost since the moment of her death, so her neural patterns can be extracted and copied.

Alien stuff> I remember encountering this novel at Waldenbooks, but I forget the title...it was about this insane composer who was torturing humans and a xenomorph he'd named Mozart (I think) and recording their screams to use in his music. Sounds interesting; don't know why I didn't buy it at the time...

Warpmind> <<I'm thinking: Stephen King in grade school...>> :O <muhahahaHAHAHAHAHAH>

Tick> I can barely remember anything about this show...I've seen two episodes: One with Joseph Stalin, and one with Venus, the Queen Of Hearts (cool name)...

Gargoyles in games> One game I can think of that isn't a great offender against gargs is, ironically enough, Demon's Crest. The titular demons are demonic in name only; they're very gargesque in appearance and personality, and the only evil gargs to be seen are two of the major villains, Arma and Phalanx. Except for the exceedingly unfortunate misnomer, it's actually rather kewl...

Fire Storm> <<Hmm... I hate clowns for a TOTALLY different reason.>> Indeed? Sounds...interesting. :)

Sarge> <<Top ten Christmas presents not to give gargies>> Jean loincloths? Hey, that sounds kewl. :P It'd be an interesting change of pace...Of course, the usual blue denim is about the same color that I am anyhow, so that's a bad idea...Maybe white denim? This has a lot of potential...

Skippy> I get the impression you're none too fond of beanie babies. :P Check out www.meaniebabies.com for a slightly more...interesting...series of plushies...hehe...

Delphi> <<One little boy raised his hand and said, "I know...he said-' Holy S##t! A talking pig!'">> O_O ROTFLMTO!!!

SJ> <<Someone slay the god of typos for me.>> And the one day I leave my iron speculum at home... :/

Mary Flanders> <<tomorrow, on December 11th, I will be 17.>> Happy (early) birthday! :D

SOROW> <<I gotta write that on my spanking appointment calendar!>> Heh...sorry, lass, but my brain has some kind of allergic reaction to being spanked...the last girl's surviving family would have pressed charges if they all hadn't met an unfortunate accident with a combine harvester... >;)

Jaden> <<Is it just me or does everything seem really slow this week. I mean it's like things are just set to crawl mode. I keep waking up and expect something to be going on, but it's like the entire world is off balance. I don't know is it just me?>> Well...it's been kind of a slow week in the CR thanks to the wipes...

Gunjack> <<why, if you don't mind me asking, do you get killed so much?>> For the same reason that Mr. Disconnect seems fond of messing with my computer. (In other words, I don't have a clue.) :P <<sort of like a futuristic Belmont family... and THAT'S the strangest thought I've had all day. :)>> Hm...I do wonder if Ripley might be descended from the Belmonts...it would explain a lot...Can't you just see her with a whip and dagger? :P

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, December 11, 1999 02:21:56 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Finally... some free time to post. The last couple days have been hectic, and we had to re-install windows yesterday... which for some reason took out our internet. :P
*Looks around the room* Dang, looks like everyone's talkin' about their fanfics all of a sudden... Another reminder that I haven't started into the archive yet...

Anyway, on to replies.

Wilek><<Since the days of the NES (and original Game Genie <grin>), believe it or not>> Then why, if you don't mind me asking, do you get killed so much? <<Where in the worlds are they gonna find an actor whose chin looks that much like an arse. :P>> Ooo, that was harsh...:) but the more I think about it, the truer this is...

Christine/frequencies - Well, I'm screwed...:)

Anne - Dang, I think we've got a bug here! :) <<I was first introduced to the alien series on the day I turned nine years old, and ever since then I've loved all of them. ALIEN 3 I really didn't like though, except the special effects were awesome and it did terrify me. Except...the script was bogus.>> How true. I've also loved the Bugs (and predators; the two were made for each other) ever since I heard about them. The plot for the third movie was semi-believable; the queen could have brought the eggs along as a precaution, but killing Hicks and Newt was idiotic. <<THEY were my favorite characters, and I won't lie and so I'll say I really did hope Hicks and Ripley would date and Ripley would adopt Newt. >> Me too. They would have have made a heck of a family... sort of like a futuristic Belmont family... and THAT'S the strangest thought I've had all day. :) <<Also, I hated the way Ripley was so insensitive to Newt's death--why the heck would she have sex almost straight after Newt's "cremation"?>> When did THAT happen!? I sure don't remember anything like that... As to her lack of reaction to Newt's death, I think you're on the right track with the shock theory. I seem to remember her being pretty messed up during the autopsy... <<I don't like the cloned Ripley that much...what happened to her compassion and deadly hate towards the aliens? That was what I loved about the first three Alien movies--Ripley was a very strong lead character and so sure of herself, and she actually had a heart.>> The change in Ripley's personality probably had to do with her being totaly defeated, and just giving up. Remember, in a space of time that seemed like only a month or two to her, she had to fight the aliens three times, lost her entire life, lost her crew, and watched as everyone near to her was wiped out. Then she kills herself to destroy the last one... Only to wake up again to find that she has failed, and lost a piece of her humanity in the process. That would be enough to break the spirit of anyone... Given the screwup that was #3, I thought Ressurection was extremely well done (other than that pathetic excuse for a new alien type...). The characters were great, though it would have been nice for a few more of them to pull through. <<I wonder what would happen in an Alien-Gargoyle crossover.... *sneaky grin* >> *shudder* ugh, I'd rather not look...

*sigh* I was hoping to get caught up on responses tonight, but I spent too much time sharpening knives... I'll try to stop in tomorrow.

Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, December 11, 1999 02:07:12 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.233.85.dallas1.level3.net

Hey people...Is it just me or does everything seem really slow this week. I mean it's like things are just set to crawl mode. I keep waking up and expect something to be going on, but it's like the entire world is off balance. I don't know is it just me?

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 01:48:19 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

*sends huggle monster after his lovely mary and gives her a big kiss* you really think you could keep me from here? ;) not as long as you drop in my lovely!
Bahemut
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:59:10 AM
IP: ip98.minneapolis12.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

Sorry. Just got the last post...

Mary> I'm actually older than someone in here?! MMMUUUAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAA!!!! j/k Have a wonderful birthday and I'll write you on my calendar.

SOROW
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:47:13 AM
IP: dll2a010-0190.splitrock.net

Anne> Thanks for the sympathies! My dad is basically pretending the confrontation never happened, which is a relief to all... but I know it happened and I will probably never forget it. At least we're talking now :l

Wilek> Your hatching day is December 28? I gotta write that on my spanking appointment calendar!

All December Birthdays> Confess! I got a pretty calendar to write everyones' b-days on, and I only have listings from July. So all people born in December, give us your day!

Sarge> I liked your last list on presents not to give gargies :) I'll make a mental note. And I hope everything works out, cause we love you! *hugs* I love you, sugarbooger!

SOROW
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:44:45 AM
IP: dll2a010-0190.splitrock.net

*enters*
I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Sorry I been away for so long guys, but stuff has been happening to me that has kept me away.Been trying to fix myself with school and believe me, it's been tough. :/

BTW, tomorrow, on December 11th, I will be 17. :))))))


Bah and I have been doing fine. *looks down* hey! when did you get here Mamo-chan???? *huggles* :)

Man, I have so much catch up reading to do!

Mary Flanders
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:43:40 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Someone slay the god of typos for me. That was supposed to be THROAT, not threat. You get the idea--SHE'S FRIGGIN ANOREXIC.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:40:15 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

RP tomorrow.

More Comic Book Geek stuff: Big news out today is that, like the Superman character, Captain America may no longer belong to his own company. The "original" creator of the character, inspired by the Superman suit currently in the air (which would give at least half of the Supes character to the Siegel family), has terminated the copyright Marvel has held on the Captain America character for decades. This means, unless Marvel can cover their ass real quickly, in 2 years they lose Cap.
I'm gonna go and be all controversial--I just may be corporate all the way with this. I feel the same way with this as I do about the Superman debacle: reeeeal uneasy. Many comic creators are happy over the Supes deal, cause they feel its a creator finally getting money out of product they created and could not rightfully own. I see it differently. I see it as a huge potential to ruin the industry and as a possible way to royally screw up the characters.
This kind of crap really makes me nervous. Leads me to believe that all those doomsaying comments about the death of the comic book industry perhaps will come true. Cause right now, the industry is hurting, and a big reason why the companies are making what they're making at all is cause they got established properties. Take those away, it's a crapshoot...what would Marvel be without X-Men? In the hole completely, probably. This thing worries me. I like my Captain America Marvel. At what point is all of this really a creator trying to get back his work , or is it just somebody looking to cash in, like every other greedy SOB out there?

Jewel: I did check out some of the Spider-Man manga...good artwork, but the plot looked kind of like a rehash of stuff already done before, so I didn't really buy it. But I appreciate the influence that manga has had on modern day artwork. I love the work of guys like Joe Madureira (sp?)...it's just the schmuck never draws anything new...

Green Baron: Is Charles a Republican? Cool. He fits in well with the rest of us in the Evil Pary. Oh wait, he's a black conservative?....well, I guess that means no one will really pay attention to what he says, then. But then again, knowing Charles, if they ignore him, he'd just tell them to f@#$ off. Which is why I like him. He's so dern surly! ;)
As for Ahnuld....I'm sorry, I like the guy, but he has officially neutered himself politically by marrying a Kennedy. He may say he's a Republican, but the mathematical equation of Republican + Kennedy always will = 0.

Wilek: GREAT clown site! Seriously, that's the coolest one I've seen yet. Ah, what is it about clowns that strikes so much fear in our hearts? Is it perhaps that they carry on an air of innocence and benevolence when inside could beat the heart of a monster? I guess Gacy ruined the illusion for everyone. But evil clowns can be fun. For instance, the Clown in Spawn, that Twisted Metal clown from those Playstation commercials ("I HATE mall Santas..."), and of course, the greatest evil clown movie of ALL time--"Killer Klowns From Outer Space". Nothing says cool like big, alien monster clowns turning people into human cotton candy bags of blood.

Finally, I leave you with something from the folks over at zealot.com. It's:

The Top 10 Changes When The Tick Becomes Live-Action

10. The spoon will be played by Lisa Nicole Carson...
<<This is some sort of Ally McBeal reference. Since I am no fan of She-Who-Sticks-Feather-Down-Her-Threat, the humor is lost on me>>
9. They will not get any man to dress up in THAT gay of a bunny suit.
<<It's a moth suit, damnit, a MOTH SUIT!!!>>
8. The dorkiest sci-fi partner will no longer be Mulder.
<<I don't know about that...>>
7. Tick and American Maid get their parasitical freak on while "doing" laundry
<<I shudder to think, but that's probably been covered in fanfic somewhere.>>
6. Blue spandex outfit changed to tight black rubber with fake blood stains
<<Or if Joel Schumacher is involved, nipples!>>
5. Evil villians replaced by sassy neighbors
4. To make up for the void left by the departure of Kelly Bundy from Fox Prime Time, American Maid will be French Maid, complete with frilly underpants and cheesy accent.
3. Two words: David Hasselhoff.
<<Two more words: Hell No.>>
2. I just want to know how the frack they plan on casting that chair-headed guy, Chairface Chippendale. Maybe Bill Clinton, since he already likes people sitting on his face...
<<No comment. Far too easy.>>
1. Character of Arthur now played by Pamela Anderson.
<<Tick: "Arthur! I don't recall you having large, hypnotic, bulbous breasts before? No matter. Off to spank evil's hiney! SPOOOOOOON!!!">>

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:37:40 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**walks in, applying liberal amounts of purple lipstick. Approaches Green Baron and smacks him one on the cheek, leaving purple lip prints**

Green Baron > Love your bowtie!

**exits, an impish smile on her face**

Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:11:46 AM
IP: ctrts2-5.mrs.umn.edu

Darth Maul Beanie > I got one at Fred Meyer the other day for Becca ... managed to resist buying the Obi-Wan for myself but wasn't able to resist telling Tim all about it, so maybe I'll find a nice Xmas surprise ... ; ) Anyway, they're even cuter in RL than on the site, except for the Amidala one, which is dorky-lookin'.

Anne > re: Frasier -- they weren't that low, though they started off leading us to believe they were going to be ... I can't wait for next week!

I had the most boring day ... 8-hour inservice on integrated treatment for co-occuring disorders. Will have absolutely no effect on my job whatsoever, but we all must have our 24 hours of training a year ... argh.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Friday, December 10, 1999 11:55:35 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Green Baron> *sneaks up from behind and kisses your cheek* My first mistletoe kiss of the season! *g*

Coyote> awww, thanks for the correction. *pushes you under the mistletoe and kotc* :)

*goes back to hiding in the corner waiting for the next person to step under the mistletoe* *covers mouth and giggles*

Jannie
Friday, December 10, 1999 10:54:38 PM
IP: 168-171-196-131.academicplanet.com

Hello all,
Jewel>>glad to hear the job is going well, tis' a wonderful thing to be in a job you enjoy.

Does anyone know anything about Paltalk, my sis just sent me the program and I can't seem to get this silly microphone working?? I've tried the plugin, and checked to see if it is muted, em me if you have any other suggestions of things I should check. thanks

Firestrom>>it seems that you were asking about the temp in C and F that are the same. 0 degree C = 32 degree F , some where around here I have that info in a chemistry book.

okay here's a cute story that was passed on to me, hope you all enjoy it!
>>> > >First grade true story:
>One day the first grade teacher was reading the story of the Three Little Pigs to her class.
She came to the part of the story where the first pig was trying to accumulate the building materials for his home. She read,
>"...And so the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full of straw and said, ' Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to build my house?'"
>The teacher paused then asked the class, "And what do you think that man said?"
>One little boy raised his hand and said, "I know...he said-' Holy S##t! A talking pig!'"

>>> > >The teacher was unable to teach for the next 10 minutes.
catch you all next time

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, December 10, 1999 10:29:08 PM
IP: twin5915.magiclink.com

Skippy> *whispers* hon, they announced that they were going to discontinue making this particular line of Beanie Babies about 4 months ago ;)
I have some bad news though.... rumor has it that they have a whole new line of Beanies to be introduced onto the market next year O_O

NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!
MAKE IT STOP!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!
Skippy the Klingon - [(Crouched in a featal position hoping the noises will go away)]
Friday, December 10, 1999 09:17:08 PM
IP: uv1pm01-16.ultravision.net

Yes, I am alive. <<Low mumbling as bets are being paid off>>

Frats: Rutgers has had 2 very bad frat incidents over the past two years. First, someone got immensely drunk, fell down some stairs and died. This year, a freshman was rushing a frat (illegeal), got drunk, went up to the 10th floor of the highrise part of my dorm, and somehow landed outside of my preceptor's window (details are sketchy). Not very good publicity. Perhaps we are on our way to adopting MSU-type strictness.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, December 10, 1999 08:32:21 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

**some starnge force takes hold of the Green Baron and traps his feet under the mistletoe**

O ladies :)

Stormy> Has Wagner started keeoping score of soccer moms he hits :)

SJ. Did you know Charles Barkley was a Republican. Well, all the bad@$$es like Ahnold and Reverend Attila are Republicans :)

Anne> I'll be on-line during Chrsitams Eve afet rmidnight Mass.

Kathy> I can't read the page :( **zaps DC to the seventeenth dimmension, also known as Cleveland**

Lexy> You ahve soem interesting ideas on Lex. Maybe Kaioto can go as Lexington for G2K :)

Now, I must depart, except I'm stuck under the mistletoe. This could be fun :)



Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, December 10, 1999 08:27:53 PM
IP: nworb106-34.splitrock.net

Apologies for the double post ... did I say Jewel?! D'OH!! 'S what I get for not being very observant of which J-name's under a blue post. Sorry, Jannie.

**starts singing under his breath** "Coyote the Red-faced Bando/ Had a really bright red faaace ..."

Coyote the Red-Faced Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, December 10, 1999 07:58:33 PM
IP: zzz-209252248092.splitrock.net

**stops Jewel on her way out, sneaking a peck on her cheek**

I think you're gonna regret puttin' that thing up there, my friend ... ;)

Spike: I'll definitely be lookin' for that two weeks from now ... oh, BTW, thanks so much for the cute Christmas card!! **hugs** Watch yer mailbox ... :)

Wilek: It all depends on the college you go to how closely the frats are monitored ... a rash of underage drinking-related injuries and deaths in one year led MSU to put *very* restrictive supervision over their chartered frats. It's getting to be the same around most of the country. It's no longer the days of "THANK YOU, SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?!"
Though frat paddles do still exist ... **shudders**

Sarge: Your evasiveness regarding your crisis is what scares me more than anything else could, friend. We're all friends here, none of us will judge.

Jenna: That elitist witch! **hugs** Hang in there, girl.

Kathy: You're gonna have to link up to the newspaper you got to that site through ... it's got some sort of cookie recognition program which lets it know you're going through a direct link from a website that's *not* associated with a newspaper.

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, December 10, 1999 07:29:14 PM
IP: zzz-209252248092.splitrock.net

Skippy> *whispers* hon, they announced that they were going to discontinue making this particular line of Beanie Babies about 4 months ago ;)
I have some bad news though.... rumor has it that they have a whole new line of Beanies to be introduced onto the market next year O_O

*hangs the mistletoe in the doorway and leaves* *silly grin*

Jannie
Friday, December 10, 1999 06:59:57 PM
IP: 168-171-196-131.academicplanet.com

ONE BIT OF POSITIVE NEWS!!!

It turns out that TY toys will cease making those infernal mostrosites the Beanie Babies as of the end of the year! No longer shall those hellspawned plushies loom over us! We are free, FREE!!!!

Skippy The Klingon
Friday, December 10, 1999 06:46:46 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-30.ultravision.net

Spiderman movie: Please please please please *please* let it go to David Fincher! He actually has a simacalrum of talent, which nowadays seem sto be quite rare in directors. He's not my first choice, but he hands-down beats out the Home Alone bozo...please, let's *not* have the warmy-and-fuzzy Spidey.

SJ: SPeaking of warm and fuzzy Spidey, have you ever read the Japanese manga version of Spiderman? WHen he got ported over there, they turned him into an anit-hero/Dark Knight kind of superhero. And it's illustrated by my favorite artist, Ryoichi Ikegami--it's his early stuff done in the sixties, so it's not nearly as good as what he turns out now, but I've seen a few of teh drawings, and thay can get crazy-mad surreal when he starts drawing the tormented SPiderman's head. Man, if they could use some of the grittier Japanese version Spiderman ideas with David FIncher directing... Ooh, I'm gettign goosebumbs just at the thought...

ST: After Next Gen, it just died. It's time to lay Star Trek to rest, at least for a few years. I mean, it's really sad when a show only has *one* really good character (the Doctor), especially when the original show had an entire cast of them, and when the immediate sequel did as well (with two exceptions-super swarmy "let's all be happy" Troi and "I'll tell off Scotty" La Forge), and even the third had a couple (I was pitching a *fit* when Jadzia croaked). Voyager sucks smelly donkey turds. I was a die-hard trekkie thanks to Next Gen and Data, and now I won't even watch Voyager. Burman must go. I mean, he didn't like the orginal Trek, and has been trying to distance the new Trek from TOS. The sad thing is, he's succeeded...

Well, I can defintely say that I like my new job. Right now, my only problem is I'm bored because I haven't gotten a telephone yet, so I can't do any telephone support work, only answer e-mails. yawnsville. But I can tell that when I get in the groove of this place, I'm going to just *love* this job! =)

jewel
Friday, December 10, 1999 06:41:25 PM
IP: atlnb211-02.splitrock.net

Hey thanks you guys for all those comments. Some people misunderstood and thought that whatever is bugging me would effect them. I meant that it will effect my school. You can imagine the pressure I have that I know something that no one else does in my school does...(at least I think)

What makes it really bad is my school is very closed in. No one mentions about foreign countries, racism, homosexulaity, STD, or culture. They are so scared because most of the school hates things like that. It is a very unsafe enviroment. So it makes it WORSE. Plus my 'rents don't know, and my girlfriend don't know.......

I'm currently getting help in the matter. So things are getting better. And I thank you all for saying you'll be there, I've been getting a lot of that.....:)

Anyway things are looking more cheery...(but not much) so I'll jes' place another top ten up.

Top ten Christmas presents not to give gargies.

10. Barbie dolls (I had a dream that I gave this to angela and then all the gargs hated me.......I don't know why.....)
9. Jean Loincloths.
8. Shoes.
7. Expensive airline tickets to Vermont ski resorts.
6. Rogaine.
5. Viagra.....
4. Pokemon
3. Solar powered motorcycle.
2. Pajamas
1. Nose rings....

Have a happy Christmas and Hannakuah!
Sarge.....living proof that Bigfoot is out there

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Friday, December 10, 1999 05:25:11 PM
IP: spider-wi073.proxy.aol.com

Wilek: Hmm... I hate clowns for a TOTALLY different reason.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, December 10, 1999 04:56:53 PM
IP: 216.90.45.191

Weird, it linked when I checked it... maybe it's some sort of temp thing. So let's try again and if you must, follow a few screens to today's "Boondocks" comic strip where Huey comes to an amazing revelation about Santa Claus...

http://www2.uclick.com/client/ucd/bo/

kathy
Friday, December 10, 1999 03:55:58 PM
IP: mail.avon.com

Hi.
I'm still alive.
If I tell myself that often enough, I may start believing it.

On the subject of the negative depiction of gargoyles in RPG's, literature, etc... I though I'd point out that they get a pretty good rap in the game Night Life. I have an old White Wolf magazine where someone wrote gargoyles up as a race. They were created by an ancient wizard to protect humans from mauraders. They are animated statues with an instinct to protect a specific place, such as a building.

Kinda cool.

They're not all that bad in V:tm, either. Terry Prattchet uses non-antisocial (unless you're a pidgeon) gargoyles in Discworld. There's even one in the Night Watch.

See ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, December 10, 1999 02:34:14 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Okay, ladies, gentlemen and regulars. I just discovered that my Spedia connection is dead. Apparently, Spedia itself is suffering from severe problems, so henceforth I shall link to the Xoom.com adress... and the lot of you will most likely notice no difference, anyway. At least not until I get a chance to update the Damn Thing(TM).

Sevarius Jr.: Well, thank you for the information. There are only two things I need to do before I can sit down in front of my TV and watch those reruns: #1: Get a satellite dish. #2: Get a TV. I kid ye not, buddy! My only piece of technology that can be used for entertainment is Ahasverus, my six-years-old 486... is it a wonder I am crabby? I just hope It picked out the right lottery numbers for at least one of the five next weeks... a million or two would be most welcome... that would even guarantee my appearance at The Gathering... Please, God, let me prove that hitting the Lottery Jackpot won't make me a bad person... :)

Anne: United Systems Military = USM Auriga...

Kathy: The link doesn't seem to work...

Tim P.: Oooh, I can hardly wait...

Well, that's it for now, folx. I really should be getting home and in bed (alone, as usual), but there's just that Boss on Chronotrigger... Heheheheh... You know what I mean... By the way, there are evil gargoyles there, too. When will we manage to kick out the Quarrymen from the games industry?

G'nite, everyone. I doubt I will post again tonight, in any case.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, December 10, 1999 02:19:44 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Anne: My ALIEN 5 script may be a long while away, yet. I need to finish my Gargoyles Fan-fic Screenplay, Then my Gargoyles Feature Film Screenplay that I'd like to sell off to Touchstone. But if all goes well, expect to see ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES at a theater near you in a couple of years.

I'll direct it, of course. :)

Tim P.
Friday, December 10, 1999 01:14:46 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

Anne: U.S.M. Agura
Tim P.
Friday, December 10, 1999 12:57:24 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

In the spirit of the holdiays... Clickie for an interesting theory about Santa Claus.

Cheers and Happy Birthday to all that have them this month.

kathy
Friday, December 10, 1999 12:00:08 PM
IP: mail.avon.com

Hi all :)

Hey, in ALIEN:RESURRECTION, was the huge ship called U.S.S. Auriga or U.S.M Auriga? I don't own the movie and my memory's kind of rusty unfortunately....

Anne
MN, USA
Friday, December 10, 1999 11:55:42 AM
IP: 204-246-241-187.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Warpmind: The Tick started as a comic book, which spawned an animated series that ran here in the USA for about 3 seasons on FOX. It was designed to be a loving spoof of the classic superhero genre. Take, for instance, the Tick himself--he's about 7 feet tall, he's got a chin the size of a mac truck, he's got a physique that most bodybuilders would kill for, he frequently pontificates about the nature of good and evil....but he's also a big dumb blue guy with a brain the size of pebble. His sidekick is really just a former accountant who dresses in a flying moth suit he happened to find one day....then you have the classic parodies of modern day superheroes. American Maid is a Wonder Woman ripoff, only she's a patriotic housekeeper. Die Flaudermous (sp?) looks like Batman, can even talk like Batman, but he's the biggest wimp on the block. Even the villains are hokey--Chairface Chippendale is a diabolical mastermind, who turned to evil due to the taunts of others (cause, well, he has a chair for a head).

All in all, the show is absurd and campy in the best possible ways. It's hilarious, and was probably way over the head of most kids, which is why it didn't last that long. If you get Comedy Central on your satellite dish, you can check out reruns there. Or scope out the comics. You can go to the Unofficial Tick site by clicking on my name.

For the record, my favorite Tick villain of all time is the Man-Eating Cow and my fave Tick supporting character is the Little Wooden Boy! Ah, poor little wooden boy...

Sevarius Jr.
Friday, December 10, 1999 11:41:56 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Hi guys.

Five of you should be receiving something cute in your e-mail right about now...

Greg: Well, you certainly found something for everyone there... except for the mutates and the clones, it seems...

Wilek: Glad you like the idea of Dagon. I agree with you on the subject of Sigourney Weaver as well... though I shudder at the thought of all the plausible blonde jokes in Alien V...

Gargoyles in RPGs: Well, I think it's about time that I made my own system... with gargoyles as the protectors we have come to know and love...

Christine: Frequencies sounds... intimidating. I might try to get a copy... sounds like our mutual friend, Dr. James Owens Mega might have had something to do with this book, by the way... Liked your newest fic, by the way.

Jennna: Have you tried using garlic and mirrors against this coworker of yours? ;)

Sarge: Something big happening? What you finally hit puberty? ;) Seriously, though, I doubt you could in any way scare the lot of us by telling. Remember, we have all had our individual sanities... uh... insanitized... Awful bedded, indeed... :) I LOVE your Top Ten lists... keep'em comin'!

Mandolin: Sounds like Joss is on a combo of crack, speed and acid, if you ask me... and I don't even have regular access to a channel that shows the series... I think I've seen maybe a half-dozen episodes, including one where *that* guy was, unlucky me...

The subject of Lexington going BAD: Now, there's a thought: I now know why so "many" authors have written about Lex as a "naughty" character: it's to keep him bad in a good way, rather than bad in a really bad way...

Okay, I see comments about Bruce Campbell as the Tick... now, all I wish for before the discussion gets out of hand is to know what is the Tick, anyway? Please answer me in a comprehensible manner. A link would be quite convenient...

Well, before I leave, I have a little thought/creativity demon for everyone: I presume some/most/all of you have had times when you've had to write a story about how you spent your summer holiday... now, I'm thinking: Stephen King in grade school...

Well, see ya.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, December 10, 1999 11:20:41 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Thanks everyone for the comments on my coworker- man I am still mad about it. I am not a froo-froo type girl that has to be pressed and powdered all the time like this girl, but I don't think I look like a homeless person. I think this coworker is just trying to cause trouble- she always does.

rrrfff!!

Anne- thanks for your compliments- as for Lex remaining single. No. Why? Well judging by his behavior towards Alex, I'd say Lex has a strong paternal instinct. You cannot exactly be a dad with out a mate, now can ya? ^_^

jenna
Friday, December 10, 1999 10:23:48 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Wesley's replacing Doyle? *rolls his eyes upwards in disbelief * That's definitely going to take a lot of the fun out of it, unless Wesley's become a lot more interesting since Ascension Day, which I doubt. (Although, admittedly, I doubt that he could become any duller than he already is :)

The Discworld series was indeed designed as a comedy series. Originally, it was a fairly obvious parody of the worst swords & sorcery cliches, but over time, it's evolved a fair amount; it's still very funny, but it's also developed a more philosophical tone and exploration of the characters.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, December 10, 1999 07:52:58 AM
IP: 216.87.46.23.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hi all!!

Anne:<<When is everybody not going to be busy? I'm thinking that it will be a bit after New Years or even before, but can everybody please inform each other if you're going to be gone around Christmas and if you are, then what time will you be back by?>>I'm not planing on going anywhere this christmas and new year.:)

Jenna:<<my coworker is on the war path- again..This time she complained to my supervisor that I looked a little slovenly- never mind that I'm moving and can't find the bloody iron!! I suppose I still must look like a supermodel even though my job forces me to do hard work many times (I'm the mail girl/go fer) if all I did was sit on my tail and talk to this or that boyfriend, like her, then I suppose I'd never perspire.>>ACK!!,I hate those kinds of co-workers,you have my simpathies*Hugs*

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Friday, December 10, 1999 06:29:48 AM
IP: melnc01.bigpond.com

Hi all :)

Whoo boy...what a night...power went out in our neighborhood and we missed Charmed and Frasier. Frasier was supposed to be about Daphne finding out the truth that Niles loved her (two episodes, which pretty much confirms it's real, unless the producers are REALLY low). Anyway, I regret missing Charmed too, because this episode sounded way cool! Oiy....

Tim> *g* WHOOHOO! You're bringing Hudson back?! I can't wait! He was also one of my major favorites (his many lines are way too memorable to forget! ^_^)! Hey, just a suggestion that you can take if you like, but if you really want to bring back Newt, I think I can help out. Newt stayed on LV426 many months, and obviously she has a very good memory since she was able to remember which airducts to take to wherever her destination would be (in ALIENS). Eventually she would find many airducts that are very dangerous to travel, and memorize certain things that requires many scientific fields. Maybe a company of scientists studying the alien species wants to learn more about the Alien structuals of their black spider-like caves and their living habitats, and learn more about why they do what, etc., so one of them finally learns about Newt, and clone her specifically so she can remember her past (I dunno how but I'm sure you can make something up). And wa-la, the scientists find she has a lot of info. on the alien species that they didn't know about before, which confirms their suspicions about the alien lifeform's habitats and mannerisms and stuff like that. Just a few thoughts. :) Please make sure that when you're finish with your script you post here and perhaps send me an e-mail? I'll definitely read it :)

Wilek> Thanks for telling me for the Winter Solstice :)*brings out calendar and puts red x's on the 24th & 25th, a question mark on the 28th*

SOROW> Glad to hear your mom has sided with you, I hope things work out ;)

ANGEL> Doyles being "replaced" by Wesley? I was wondering where the little creep went--I wish he'd go back to wherever it was he went to and leave Angel & Cordy alone! I feel sorry for the guy because he's getting "replaced" twice, but why why why on ANGEL? If they do put him on, they'd better make him more interesting!! Grr--bad Wesley better be controlled by Doyle's spirit or somethin' because his liners aren't going to wet my appetite. What's _wrong_ with Jossie boy?

Jenna> *hugs* Hang in there, and also very interesting about your Misbegotten Son Saga. Yeah, I think something good can come out of evil too [examples: Star Wars trilogy, Demona, and one of Lex's kids is a classic hero and his father is his inspiration (*ducks* What? Hey, you think Lex stays single for forty years? *sly grin*)...oops, another major slip. I have _got_ to get better about not giving away those surprises....] I'll read your fanfic when I'm not so sleepy :)

Good night all! -_-

Anne
MN, USA
Friday, December 10, 1999 04:45:59 AM
IP: 209-130-164-138.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Anne> <<can everybody please inform each other if you're going to be gone around Christmas and if you are, then what time will you be back by?>> Well, I'll probably not be in the CR on the 24th and 25th, and possibly a few days before and after that (possibly my hatchingday on the 28th).

Jenna> <<my coworker is on the war path- again..This time she complained to my supervisor that I looked a little slovenly- never mind that I'm moving and can't find the bloody iron!! I suppose I still must look like a supermodel even though my job forces me to do hard work many times (I'm the mail girl/go fer) if all I did was sit on my tail and talk to this or that boyfriend, like her, then I suppose I'd never perspire.>> <grr> This woman will be destroyed if it's the last thing either of us does...

Sarge> <<There is something big going on my life. Something so huge that it scares me...and what scares me more is that I am the only one that has figured it out, and as soon as I tell people there is going to be fear.>> O_o' Maybe you'd like to tell us what exactly this is? Or if you can't, then know that whatever it is, we're here to help.

Fire Storm> <<Ya know, life is full of many mysteries big and small, like why do clowns make us laugh, why do we love puppy dogs, and why... why do little blue midgets hit me with fish?>> Don't know about the rest of it (well, I have my theories about the midgets, but I'll have to find out more about Vorlon theology), but as for clowns...check out the page at my name link. o_o'

Wilek Nereus
Friday, December 10, 1999 02:41:31 AM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Err.. typo warning:

Ringworld: Is it worth it? I find the idea of a ring around a star intersting.

Fire Storm
Friday, December 10, 1999 12:37:04 AM
IP: t1-25.visitus.net

SJ> The Dominion, in my opinion in general, was the worst idea for DS9. It turned the mysterious and distinctly alien enviroment of the Gamma Quadrant into a tired cliche of villians out to conquer the Federation. I always thought the earlier aleins that came from the Gamma Quadrant (the Tosk, the Wadi etc..) were much more interesting than the Dominion aliens. If they had ended the war arc earlier, it would have been neat to revisit the GQ to see the ramifications of the Dominion's collapse.

I must admit I do not know if it is Majel Barrett throwing the fit or not, but I'd think she would have the most interest in the show and it's direction. I do hope my theorizing is valid. I would like to see some kind of shakeup in the production office before they start the next series...

Wesley's move to Angel> Bleeh! The fan's didn't like the smug little bastard on Buffy, why should they embrace him now? First it was Giles' job, now it's Doyle's place on the show, I wonder how the actor feels about being eternally cast as the unpleasnt replacement for much more popular character's?

Skippy The Klingon
Friday, December 10, 1999 12:34:38 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-22.ultravision.net

<Fire Storm walks into the room followed by 21 Hunter Fire Storm QwikKlones. Fire Storm pulls out a bugle and plays taps. At the end of taps, FS salutes, then the HFS Klones fire their 21 gun salute.>

Alas, poor Hard Drive. I knew it well.

Well, my HD finally died. Thank the hunter there wasn't anything on it. And don't worry. Maxtor has already heard from me. Shoulda stuck with Western Digital.

AAron: Don't worry. I can still do everything.

Gunjack: After "The Fire," there was a time of renewed peace and prosperity for all of humanity.

Coyote, Xanathar: Thanks for the comment on the site!

Todd: Ya know, i am begining to think that Diskworld is a comedy!

BTW... has anyone in here read Ringworld? And if so, is it worth is? I must admit that the idea of a ring around a planet is kinda cool. And a Dyson Sphere...

Bruce Cambell as The Tick: Hmm... Oh yeah. That would be GREAT! I can just hear Cambell saying:
"Ya know, life is full of many mysteries big and small, like why do clowns make us laugh, why do we love puppy dogs, and why... why do little blue midgets hit me with fish? See what I mean? Mysteries abound!

Lex being evil: As the resident dark-side-of-life writer, I have to say the Lex, besides being the most compotent villan in the show, would be a GREAT villan!

<FIRE-STORM> ends his post with a chirp of praise to <FIRST THOUGHT//GIVER-OF-WILL>

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 11:51:56 PM
IP: t1-25.visitus.net

Deuce- Quick question..umm are you the same Deuce that is appearing in theaters soon?;)
Anonymous
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:30:35 PM
IP: spider-wj013.proxy.aol.com

Doug & Kit: $Could you please possibly repost that last bit of your RP, or at the very least email it too me or summarize it for me? I know that one of your characters was following my character, but due to the crash...grrrrr....I'm a little hazy on the exact particulars. Thanks :) $

Spider-Man News: Looks like the studio has narrowed the field down to 2 choices for director--David Fincher (Se7en, The Game, Fight Club) or Chris Columbus (Home Alone, Stepmom, Bicentennial Man). Hmmm.
I'm probably gonna go against the popular opinion here and say that I will be very, very distressed if Columbus gets the Spidey film. It's just that his films....well, for me, they're too warm and fuzzy. More on the fluff side. I shudder to think of how Spidey would look in his hands. I'd choose Fincher--just because he's usually dark and gritty doesn't necessarily mean that that will automatically translate into the film. He's excellent visually--the man knows how to use his imagery. Given these 2 choices....I'd rather take the chance of having a somewhat darker Spidey than a fluff piece.
I know that traditionally Spider-Man has been a lighthearted book, but....I just do not like Columbus in the role. I gotta go with Fincher. Rumor has it that the studio is leaning in that direction, as there have been long talks between David and the studio that were reportedly "extremely positive". We'll know the answer soon enough--they want to make the decision before Christmas.

Doyle's....ugh...."replacement": These are the times when I do believe the words "justifiable homicide" are appropriate. I grew to really, really like Doyle, then they had to off him. Okay, I can deal. Then you stick in....WESLEY??? Okay, but....WESLEY??? That is so friggin' wrong.
I'm gonna go pray on the Altar of the Stone God that they rewrite Doyle into the show. As a ghost, or something. Have him possess Wesley, or something, just get him back!

Skippy: From one point of view, I didn't think the Dominion War arc was that bad. It could have been quite interesing...for a season. Dragging it out for several seasons, it stagnated. The show really lowered in quality the last few seasons. Majel was right to be outraged.
Of course, there are those who claim that they ripped off Babylon 5 for those last few seasons...JMS himself being one of them. I must say, I see the similarities, and with some of the sloppy storytelling being done, it wouldn't surprise me all that much if they resorted to stealing ideas out of laziness or lack of talent. I really don't know if Majel is the one raising hell, but if she is, more power to her.

Bruce Campbell....is....The Tick!!!: Y'know, this could work! They both have comic-book good looks....probably cause the Tick's a comic book character....and there's some remarkable similarities between the big blue guy and Ash. Both are tough fighters, both got big-ass chins, and both are about as smart as a bottle of mayonnaise. Bruce loves action-comedies, too, so sign him up! SPOOOOOOOON!!!

Lex as a Supervillain: If he ever did turn evil, a la "Future Tense", I think the clan would be screwed royally. Lex is terribly smart, and he does have that air of innocence about him. I get the feeling that the same thing would be happening as it did in Future Tense--nobody would ever see the axe drop until it's just about to lop off the tops of their heads, and then it'd probably be too late. Of all the clan, he has the potential to be perhaps the most dangerous foe. Brooklyn has too much honor, Broadway is far too gentle, Angela is far too goody-goody, but Lex....if Lex wanted to be bad, he would be BAD. Nuff said.

Jewel: You want a psychological answer? Men disassociate themselves from their emotions. Part of it is the virility mystique--men disassociate their sexual feelings with their need for love, respect, or affection. This is the reason why a man may absolutely hate a particular woman he knows, but still be willing to jump in the sack with her; he disassociates one need from the other. Many men are, by nature, anti-romantic and anti-emotional. Women are expected to be the more emotional half of the species--thus the endless jokes about women's changing moods, especially around that particular time of the month. Part of this is socialization (most of it is, in fact), but part of it may be biological. So, in essence, men are expected to be shallow and unresponsive emotionally, while women are supposed to be emotional (and romantic) paragons of virtue.
In case you're wondering, yes, this HAS been a desparate attempt to prove that all those credit hours of psych was worth something.

Sarge: Uh...you wanna talk to us about what's going on? We'll help you deal with whatever's bothering you. If you want, you can email me or the others--we're your friends here, and I think I can speak for everyone when I say we'd be more than willing to help you out.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:23:52 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Mandolin: Joss is smoking crack. They're bringing that *twit* on the show?!!? Excuse me, I have to scream now.

Sir Charles: I've never been a big basketball fan, but I gotta admit, I'm gonna miss him in the game.

<sigh> I was watchign a movie with my big brother and sister-in-law, and, when gettign irritated watching this wimpy-man cry over his wife who cheated on him, yelled out, "Oh, for god's sake, don't call her!" My big brother looked at me and said, "Bitter, are we?" It hit me a few minutes later, and I went, "Hey! What do you mean, bitter?!!? I'm not bitter!" Why is it if a guy is anti-romantic and anti-emotional wussy, no one blinks, but if a girl does it, she's labelled "bitter"?

jewel
Thursday, December 9, 1999 09:57:23 PM
IP: atlnb103-17.splitrock.net

It never fails. You're in the middle of writing an essay, and you suddenly draw a blank. That's why I'm hear; well, that, and the fact that I can't wait for the next Dark Ages episode. :)
Btw, if you know who sings the words below, write me back about it. The person sings this song is absolutely awesome, and I'm curious to see if anyone else knows who she is.

Look to love and you may dream
And if it should leave then give it wings
But if such a love is meant to be
Hope is home, and the heart is free
Hope is home, and the heart is free


AotN
Thursday, December 9, 1999 09:53:47 PM
IP: fn-39-3.sssnet.com

To all Angel fans (esp. those frustrated over Doyle's death):

Remember all those rumors about exactly who was going to step in for Doyle? Well, IGN confirms who it is... Click my name to see who if you haven't guessed already. (What is Joss smoking, I wonder?)

Mandolin
Thursday, December 9, 1999 09:25:31 PM
IP: 144.175.18.15

......sigh.....:( This is a RANT kinda......I JUST NEED TO GET THIS OFF OF MY CHEST SOMEWHERE....and this is the only place......

I haven't been doin' much of anything latley, and I don't expect to for a couple months. There is something big going on my life. Something so huge that it scares me...and what scares me more is that I am the only one that has figured it out, and as soon as I tell people there is going to be fear.

I don't know what to do and so I'm busy mediatating about what to do with my life instead of writing fan-fics and drawing. I just needed to say this so I know I can tell people....so I know that I don't have to have fear......I hate this....but there is nothing that can be done......

anyway i want to also be cheery....:) Here's a top ten just so I don't sound like a drag......

top ten reasons conversation starters they couldn't allow in the show.

10. Does my loincloth make me look fat?
9. I wonder if I should wear a different shirt....nahh...my black one is just fine.....
8. Well Owen it appears the cauldron has got you stoned.....
7. I have to go to the bathroom.
6. I REEEEAAALLLY have to go now........
5. Alex: Dadda Poop! poop poop poop poop......
David: Whoever taught my son that word....
4. Geez elisa....your really grouchy......why are you so....OHHHHHhhhh it's one of those months isn't it...I...AUGHH! NO LET ME GO!
3. And do you Xanatoos take Fox Renard as your awful bedded wife....I men lawful wedded......
2. Matrix: Yes....and when I take over....then there will only be order...an order of Big Mac and fries............(why did I type this one?)

1. Mother...I'm coughing up a hairball again.....


Sarge....

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, Vermont, United States of America
Thursday, December 9, 1999 07:28:11 PM
IP: spider-tf064.proxy.aol.com

GREG - I'm stuck at the moment on figuring out what the "Pendragon" cast would want for Christmas, so you'll forgive me for not providing one in this post.

Actually, I'm not that certain that Madoc would be in need of an air-conditioner. First off, according to Dante, the worst parts of Hell are frozen over in ice (which is going to surprise all those people who were using such an eventuality as a synonym for "never"); for them, you'd want a heater. There's also the question (which I believe has been brought up here before) of whether the fay have an afterlife or not; many legends about them claim that they don't.

(Of course, that's even assuming, for that matter, that they still go for the fire and brimstone approach in the nether regions. One of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books, "Eric", deals with a point when the demon currently in charge of Hell decides that fire and brimstone is too unimaginative a way of torturing the lost souls there, and comes up with more insidious punishments - as in, being forced to watch the demons' vacation slides. Not to mention that instead of an eagle chewing out your liver each day, which then grows back at night so that it can do it all over again tomorrow, the eagle now tells you about its recent operation, leaving in all the details. And instead of pushing a rock up a hill which slips out of your grasp and rolls back down the hill when you're halfway up, you have to listen to a demon read out all the bureaucratic rules and regulations for pushing the stone up the hill).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, December 9, 1999 06:54:32 PM
IP: 216-88-191-164.dialup-stl.primary.net

Anne: Lately I have been outlining my own ideas for an ALIEN 5 screenplay. I haven't though any good ways to bring back Hicks, Newt, or Bishop, but I did think up of a very concivable way of bringing back... well, guess. ;)

"We're on an express elevator to hell. Going Down!"

Admit it, you'd like to see him back.

Tim Phipps
Thursday, December 9, 1999 06:50:08 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

By the Dragon! What on Earth is going on in here?! A new wipe? I guess I'm missing out on the posts again, but last night I had a hella crappy project! *sigh* Concerning my rant about my dad, my mom told him to leave me alone and she'd deal with me later (which means she's on my side). GO MOM!

Wilek & anyone else who might have posted that I missed> Thanks for the sympathy. My dad, Lord bless him, just gets really childish sometimes. I've just learned to ignore him.


SOROW
Thursday, December 9, 1999 06:44:48 PM
IP: dll2a030-0833.splitrock.net

Quick note here- my coworker is on the war path- again..This time she complained to my supervisor that I looked a little slovenly- never mind that I'm moving and can't find the bloody iron!! I suppose I still must look like a supermodel even though my job forces me to do hard work many times (I'm the mail girl/go fer) if all I did was sit on my tail and talk to this or that boyfriend, like her, then I suppose I'd never perspire.

**deep breath**

Lexy& marc& Anne- you all have made some very intersting comments about Lexington. In my Misbegotten Son Saga, there will be a lot of development on Lexington. I have him get the implants like in FT, but ironically he does not become evil. That is the twist in all of the story- that all of Future Tense will happen- but not in the way that Goliath saw. HOw many times have we had dreams where we saw something scary, that we knew to be good. What if propshey walks in the back way , instead of the front- what if what happens to Lex- the implants only here- turns out to be for the good.

I suppose some of that is because of personal beliefs/ past experiences. Can something good come out of something terrible? Can fate write striaght with crooked lines?

jenna
Thursday, December 9, 1999 05:16:21 PM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Hi everyone :)

Marc & Lexy> <<Marc: if anyone of the trio's going to betray their clan,it would have to Brooklyn>> That's a very interesting concept, except for some reason I can't see Brooklyn betraying the clan. I can't see any of the clan betraying each other truthfully, which is why my futute fanfic is going to be difficult to write because I have to study a lot of Lex's weaknesses, and sadly break them by somebody Lex either loved or trusted very much, or else by someone Lex sincerely hates but can't hurt back (and if this occurs twice, three times god forbid, I believe he would be driven off the wall). Because we all know the basics--Lex is very intelligent, but he can also be moody because he bottles up everything inside himself, making him kind of vulnerable--it's entertaining to think of him as a villain...but in the real world (meaning that of the show and not of the dream)???. But from my personal view, Lex is just too smart to get caught up in becoming a super villain. He knows his route and he sticks to it instead of dashing to another mysterious road stupidly. "Thrill of the Hunt" is the first lesson that Lex ever had in betrayal, but he was beyond revolted about it, so why would he even go near it himself? I don't know, but I think it's going to become very hard for me to write him as somebody we hate especially since I love the guy.
On another note...no, my fanfic's not going to be exactly like the dream. Goliath, Elisa, Bronx, and Angela's return from the Avalon Journeys changed that. Yes, the same nightmare we saw in Future Tense will still be there, but it will be dramatically changed due to the fact that Goliath will alter many things, but he eventually loses control. Also, a great many things will happen, like the introduction to the hatchlings, many clans that visit Manhattan, one in particular will be searching for Demona and her evil aunt...I think I'm letting too many things slip, so I better shut up.

Spike> <<Winter solstice moon>> Cool! I can't wait to see that! :)

Winter Solstice plans> When is everybody not going to be busy? I'm thinking that it will be a bit after New Years or even before, but can everybody please inform each other if you're going to be gone around Christmas and if you are, then what time will you be back by? Oh yes, this reminds me...

Robby/TGS staff> *gets big innocent eyes* May we please use the CR as a little party get-together for the Winter Solstice? Pa-leeeease?

***Re-do of my ALIEN spoilers***
I was first introduced to the alien series on the day I turned nine years old, and ever since then I've loved all of them. ALIEN 3 I really didn't like though, except the special effects were awesome and it did terrify me. Except...the script was bogus. Bishop had said "It was with us the whole way"...well, what does that mean?! It was with you when you left planet LV426 or on the Sulaco before the Queen was killed? It also left a lot of loopholes, like what happened to the sole survivor at the end of ALIEN 3, and what were they thinking when they killed Hicks, Newt, Bishop, and (later on) Ripley? THEY were my favorite characters, and I won't lie and so I'll say I really did hope Hicks and Ripley would date and Ripley would adopt Newt. I would rather trade the cloned Ripley, Vriess, Johner, and Call for the original Ripley, Bishop, Hicks, and Newt. Also, I hated the way Ripley was so insensitive to Newt's death--why the heck would she have sex almost straight after Newt's "cremation"? She would never get that low! And remember, in ALIENS, she cried and risked her life many times for that kid, and in ALIEN 3 she hardly gave a dang when she found out Newt was dead (it was probably from shock but still....). And if there was no other way for Newt to be in the movie other then to kill her...then they should have given Ripley more good lines about Newt, because throughout the movie she doesn't mention Newt once--NOT once--in an other form other then another contingency, and that really hurts since Newt was my second favorite character (a nine-year-old girl on the brink of survival and yet she still manages to kick alien butt--she's defintely in my favorites). I like the characters of ALIEN: RESURRECTION, but I feel greatly disturbed by the fact that this cloned Ripley is hardly anything like the one we last saw in ALIEN 3. I don't like the cloned Ripley that much...what happened to her compassion and deadly hate towards the aliens? That was what I loved about the first three Alien movies--Ripley was a very strong lead character and so sure of herself, and she actually had a heart. But I do love ALIEN: RESURRECTION because they brought back Ripley, and the aliens for that matter, and Johner, Vriess, and Call are cool. I know it's just a pipe dream, but I just really hope that ALIEN 5 brings back Newt, Bishop, and maybe even Hicks (for some reason I can't think of, but they would of course be cloned). That'd be cool--only Newt would be grown-up and she would really kick major alien butt then. Hehe...I can just imagine her slapping Ripley for being insensitive about her death and also amazed--thus she screams, "YOU F#%^&* THE QUEEN??!!!" That'd make an interesting television show I think, of course on HBO or something like that. I wonder what would happen in an Alien-Gargoyle crossover.... *sneaky grin*
***End ALIEN spoilers***

Anyway, I have to go. Bye everyone :)

Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 04:30:02 PM
IP: 209-130-164-145.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Lexington> Well, I too did a bit of psychological profile on Lexington while writing a story. I'm big on Taoism and the uncarved block stuff, but I also attribute much of Lex's character to what happenned to him Scotland. Having his small stature and his "cuter" looks, I would imagine that humans would have been more likely to approach him and trust him. I think because of this Lex is the most socially advanced of the entire clan. He seems very interested in other viewpoints, and in expressing his spoken opinions. He would probably fit best into human society of all the gargoyles. Lex unlike the others has his emotions under control, especially his anger,and has an innate sensitivity which gives him not only compassion but acute self-awareness which gives him a constant need to prove himself. I don't know if I'd call Lex innocent, I think that is something people attribute to him because of his size and voice. He seems to have a lack in common sense due to his interest in worldly things (kind of like Doc Emmitt Brown and because of that he expects more of the world than he should. The things the Trio sees on TV and on the computer probably affects him the most. I also don't see Lexington capable of evil. If any of the Trio's going to betray their clan,it would have to be Brooklyn. The major difference between Lex and Brooklyn: when the pack betrays Lex, his anger is directed inward as he berates himself. Brooklyn on the other hand, directs most of his hate outward toward Demona to almost obsessive extremes. If hate is the path to evil,as George Lucas would have us believe, than I think Brooklyn is a lot closer to the dark side than any one. Anyway,that's my two cents.

Charles Barkley> I didn't really ever dig Chuck elbowing that starving Angolan player in 92. But I am gonna miss his antics, and I'm disappointe because I was secretly hoping he'd beat the bleep out of Steve Francis.

Marc - [dadigan@uiuc.edu]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 02:22:10 PM
IP: farm1-cache1.gw.uiuc.edu

Me again ... off-topic but this is a link to the site of the guy I met at the UW; his book is new, self-published, and looks very sharp. It's future-tech, so I probably wouldn't care much for it myself, but if anyone does, it may be worth a look.
Click or go to http://www.omegapp.com/omegapp/frequencies.html

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 01:33:55 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Better do this again...

**BEGIN YET ANOTHER REPOST**

SOROW and everyone else with tests and whatnot> Best of luck! :D

Gunjack Valentine> <<That WOULD be a bit of a handicap... How long have you been playing for?>> Since the days of the NES (and original Game Genie <grin>), believe it or not.

Warpmind> <<I'm playing with the idea of having built Dagon, a car that will, in a sense, be the "child" of Cthulhu and EBON1, containing technology and ideas from both... what do you think? It'll be a heavily modified DeLorean DMC-12 with various form of rather sadistic weaponry implemented, like a half-dozen Mavericks, dual Vulcan 20mm Autocannon, etc. etc. and so on.>> :O THAT IS SO COOL!!! :D

Jannie> <<Coyote> thank you, my friend. You're the only one, so far, who has noticed that Pistoff is not the only one who is at a great loss over Denis not being online. The net is/was our main way of communicating.>> <baffs self> I can't believe I overlooked that...<hugZ, not knowing what else to say or do>

Todd and Guandalug> D&D Stuff> Oi...I knew it was bad, but I had no idea...

SJ> <<expect the Star Wars Episode 2 script to be the result of late-night cramming.>> Does this mean Jar Jar won't be dying in the next movie? >:/

Aaron> <<I swear my game hates me. Every time I use a mace as my backup weapon, I get lots of gargoyles. It is a strange feeling to walk toward a sleeping bunch of them with a big blunt object.>> <SHUDDER> Glad I don't have that game...

Jenna> <<Mike and I had to crunch all the moving into one day. WE started at ten o'clock sunday morning, and didn't stop until 4 am Monday morning- straight. Needless to say, we could hardly move by the time we were done.>> o_O <hugZ>

Anne> Solstice> I'll be here, as always! :D <<SIGOURNEY WEAVER WENT BLONDIE??!!!>> Odd, that...although, if she looks good with no hair at all, surely she'd look good blonde. :)

Coyote> <<The guy said he checked the gun to make sure it wasn't loaded ... the ritual is that they line up the pledges and try to scare them by dry-firing the gun while its barrel is pressed against their crotches. Seventh pledge got unlucky, I guess, and found out that indeed, the gun *was* loaded. Now the frat chapter is facing losing its charter for this incident.>> This kind of thing is why I think fraternities ought to be *very* closely monitored. Eesh...

Jewel> Frat guys> Oi...Beavis and Butthead live. O_o

Bronx> <<Has anyone here loved someone so much that it drives you out of your mind? That's how I feel like right now, and the worse part about it is that I told the guy how I felt today. " I'm just not interested in a relationship right now" Oh man, I could just feel my heart being ripped out.>> :( <more hugZ> <<Disney stores- I went into one during a mad dash to find some presents, and much to my dissapointment no gargoyles stuff! what's up with that?>> Probably for the same reason I didn't find anything gargoylian during my several trips to Disney World itself...

SOROW> <<My dad just said the must insulting things I've ever heard! [...]>> Ack...that sounds hideous! <even more hugZ>

**END REPOST AND BEGIN CURRENT POST!**

Lady Mystic> Welcome back! :)

SJ> <<Well, apparently that live-action Tick series wasn't a joke...it just may be happening.>> Where in the worlds are they gonna find an actor whose chin looks that much like an arse. :P

Spike> Solstice moon> Cool...I shall have to take a look outside that night (a rare thing for a computer geek like me <g>)...

Wilek Nereus
Thursday, December 9, 1999 01:01:19 PM
IP: spaceproxy.com

Robby> Is it possible for Gore to have wiped the room over your head? And I'm glad to hear Fred Perry's getting the hang of the new format. Of coure, we'd have more pages per issue without a four-page AP report in the middle of every book. Ah well.

SJ> Oh good. I was afraid I was the only one who would care about Sir Charles leaving. The world is a little less colorful for his going.

"Tanya Harding has said she is the Charles Barkley of figureskating. I was going to sue her for defamation of character, but then I realized I have no character." Charles Barkley.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 12:37:45 PM
IP: ppp-130.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Crzy > you didn't _make_ me read 'em ... boy, I make a couple little comments about how Calhoun is a total Mary Sue and you just won't let me forget it, will you? ; )

More Trek Stuff > read in the paper yesterday that Patrick Stewart plans to begin talks with the movie people next spring for another ST:TNG movie. He apparently also told reporters that the X-Men movie was so secretive that they have to eat their script pages at the end of each day's shoot.

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 11:24:56 AM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

SJ> I do agree that it's time to get rid of Berman and Braga. Most of the diehard Trekfans who heard about what they did to Ron Moore (a producer and writer for DS9) were upset with Braga for his assinine ousting of Moore (who was popular with the fans becasue of his regular online chats and comments on Trek) and they were equally PO'd at Berman for letting it happen.

"Much beloved figure"? Oh, Majel's been pitching a fit with the Paramont brass,eh? Sounds like her, she was so upset with the DS9 war story arc she refused to be associated with it (if you care to notice, you never hear a Federation computer talk during the last season of DS9, Majel Barret refused to do anything with DS9 becasue she felt the war arc was something Gene would not have approved)

I wonder if Majel is going to step in and take the reigns now? She's been exec producer for Earth: Final Conflict and it's doing ok in the ratings. Her sudden interest in production might have been spurred by the downhill slide Trek has been taking. She might have decided to become a producer so the Paramount brass might be willing to look at her as a viable option to Berman. I hope so, I doubt she could do any worse :)
Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:54:44 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-17.ultravision.net

In the spirit of the holidays I bring you a list of what the characters of TGS want for the X-Mas or Channkah or whatever.

Goliath: Peace and quiet with Elisa
Elisa: An end to the weirdness so she be with GOliath without fighting evil.
Brooklyn: A new motorcycle
Sata: A shiny new Katana
Broadway: A nice big dinner
Angela: for Demona to reform
Lexington: to get rid of his Cybernic implants
Graeme: a new Super Cyborg Assault Armidilos video game
Ariana: a brand new bo
Bronx: A really big bone
Nudnik: A pair of Owen's boxer shorts
Demona: A chance to cut-loose
Xanatos: more money
Fox: for Titania to apologise to her
Owen: to be Puck again
Alex: something related to Pokemon (it would have to be)
Thailog: To get rid of his scars
Madoc: An air-conditioner (think about it)
Maeve: freedom
Garlon: to kill all the cats of the world
Cagney: to eat Garlon

hey Todd, how about a list like this focusing on the cast of "Pendragon".

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:47:28 AM
IP: spider-wl034.proxy.aol.com

Well, hello again...

Spike: Interesting info on the moon on Winter Solstice... makes for some interesting spellcasting, no?

Well, that wasn't exactly many posts since I checked last... oh, well, I'll get back to the CR in due time... probably sometime tomorrow...

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:36:57 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Lexy- well won't em- will respond to Lex comments here- but will take me some time. ^_^
jenna
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:31:35 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

Pist and Jannie- keep eyes peeled for em.

Lexy- love your comments on Lexington. I'm send you an em too. ^_^

jenna
Thursday, December 9, 1999 10:30:08 AM
IP: unknown-31-157.glm.com

::Walks into the Comment Room::

My first fanfic (outside of TGS) "Unions Part 1: Shadows" is now up at the Gargoyles-fans archive. It's the first Gargoyles/Babylon 5 crossover. Hope you enjoy it.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 09:36:12 AM
IP: spider-wl034.proxy.aol.com

Contributes something interesting she found in her email box....

This year will be the first full moon this century to occur on the winter
> solstice, Dec. 22, commonly called the first day of winter. Since a full
> moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee
> (point in the moon's orbit that is closest to Earth) The moon will appear
> about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the point in it's elliptical
> orbit that is farthest from the Earth) since the Earth is also several
> million miles closer to the sun at this time of the year than in the
> summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger - making it
> brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year
> since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming.
>
> If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it is
> believed that even car headlights will be superfluous. On December 21st.
> 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences
> and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming
> Territory. In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon, much
> more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years! Our
> ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or so years from
> now will see this again.
>
> I hope someone else might find this interesting! Remember this will
> happen December 22, 1999.....

Spike
Thursday, December 9, 1999 09:26:37 AM
IP: pppt13-246.ght.iadfw.net

Morning all :)

I was thinking about the Live Tick, and I think that Bruce Campbell would be good for the role. The only reason I thought of him being the Tick is because I'm watching "Army of Darkness" right now, and he has a big chin. Anyway, I have to go watch my movie.

See you all tonight! :)

Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 06:05:00 AM
IP: 204-246-241-123.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Hi all!!

What the hell's wrong with the CR lately,there was several threads that I was following with great interest,all gone now. :(

Lady Mystic/Fire Storm:I just checked out your new website,very nice :)

SJ re Star Trek News:I agree Star trek does need some recouperation(SP?) time and I also agree that they should get rid of Berman as well,but that also leads to the question,Who should they replace him with?(there's also the very real possibility that who-ever they replace him with could be even worse)

Goodnight all!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Thursday, December 9, 1999 06:02:36 AM
IP: 139.134.23.66

Third time now...the ninth revision of ALIEN 3 by Walter Hill & David Giler. I have yet to read this one, but it's supposed to be the final draft.
Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 03:23:50 AM
IP: 204-246-241-73.nas2.apv.gblx.net

...
Anonymous
Thursday, December 9, 1999 03:21:40 AM
IP: cow.cc.monash.edu.au

This one is by Frason, only set up in the prison instead of earth....
Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 03:12:44 AM
IP: 204-246-241-73.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Hi, everyone. I thought I had an IT test today, and it turns out it's not until Monday. Woohoo! Of all possible Alterniverses, the one I live in is the one I most oblivious to... I wonder if it's me or the world... Well, armed with the day off, I might manage to finish my entry for Sabledrake Magazine; "Bodyguards", or, more likely, get a little bit further in Chronotrigger... ;)

**RANT WARNING**
First of all: What The F*ck Dot Com is wrong twith the CR now? I've missed all posts since 15 hours ago! If this happened once in a blue moon, I could understand it, but twice in one week? Hello? Is it DC or CD we have to kill to fix this problem?
**RANT END**

Pistoff/Mara: Since you two asked the same question by e-mail, I'll answer collectively here (no sensitive information, anyway): No, I do not have any particular suggestions for either of you. The plot can be kept simple; Demona magically trapping MacBeth, Puck and Goliath, but aside from that, I give you both hands free to type with... and Pissy, I believe to recall that Mandolin offered her fics up for MiSTing, you might wanna check with her...

Christine: New fic... again? *Sighs* Your dextrous fingers are moving so swift, my eyes are starting to grow weary trying to follow... Well, lemme see... open... save... done. I'll read it when I get home.

Lexy: Heh... in my fic series, Lexington is pretty much oblivious to the feminine gender... for now. I am even now plotting for him to be thoroughly seduced by the resident nanny... *cough* who happens to be a human/cat mix. Not a crossbreed, though, more of a meld, caused by magic, not by science. And, of course, they'll pick up a few tricks along the way... but I have no intentions of making hip look "naughty", as you so elegantly put it. He'll be the father of someone with whom he has contacted once over the NYPD Computer Network, and whom Brooklyn has met once... it's kind of complicated, but time travel is involved... The kid'll look like Lex, only with fur. Oops, I'm revealing too much of what will be... I better stop now. As for his age; Lex is, if possible, maybe both more and less mature than Brooklyn and Broadway, at least in my series. Less guided by his hormones. Physically, he's just as old as the others in the Trio, though.

*Heads out, but flicks up a gnawed-off double-barreled shotgun and efficiently blasts big holes in both DC and CD before leaving.*

Oh, and Crzy: That New Frontier site looks rather fascinating. Doubt I will read any of the novels, though... And I agree that Star Trek should give the ol' ogle-box some rest. Theey've made new episodes and movies since the sixties, darn it! I don't know about you guys, but I think thirty years is a BIT of a stretch for a single theme to keep going... and going... and going... hmmm, maybe the screenwriters run on Energizer batteries? Or maybe Duracell?

Ah, well, catch y'all later, and I hope to see some reposts of what happened between 15 hours ago and the time the CR was wiped... I can't help it... I am a fluke when it comes to time zone calculations.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, December 9, 1999 03:09:53 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi all :)

Got bored last few hours so I went searching for that script the Tim was talking about for ALIEN 3. I found it and another one, the first written by a guy named Gibson and the second by John Frason. The first one is by Gibson :)

Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, December 9, 1999 03:09:11 AM
IP: 204-246-241-73.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Well I was planning to check out all the posts I missed from yesterday, but since the room has been wiped early this is all I can write for now.

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 01:44:12 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Sevarius Jr. RE: 5th Trek Series - I agree. I hope they let it cool a bit. Until then I will be content to read the "New Frontier" series by Peter David. (HEH, I even forced Christine to read it!!)

If anyone is interested in this new book series. Give it a look over, it has some GREAT people from TNG and a whole cast of new people... err... things... err... whatever they are! CLICKY CLICKY

CrzyDemona - [<--- Star Trek: New Frontier]
Thursday, December 9, 1999 12:50:04 AM
IP: 209.150.94.73

BTW, that was supposed to be post Future Tense, not TImedancer sorry.
Lexy
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 11:55:06 PM
IP: spider-wb074.proxy.aol.com

*walks in and takes her place on stage behind the podium* *wips out a stack of papers and Q'cards* *clears her throught*

OK ppl, I haven't been in here for quite a while. No duh right? Well, I was just sitting around being lazy when I realized how deprived you all have been! Here, I have been SO selfish..laying around doing nothing when I could be writing you a long report about Lexington. (twice) I figured it would make up for all those Lex posts your missing in my absense. *grins as ppl slowly slink twords the doors non-chalantly* *slams her taloned fist down on a large red button bringing huge steel doors down over all exits* Now now..it wont take THAT long *smiles* take your seats. *waits as ppl find their way back to their places* Ok, now, this is going to be an interactive report. What I mean is, first we will take a look at Lex physically, then emotionally in a factual manner. Then we will go back and take a look at these same topics..but how _we_ as the fandom perceive them. In other words, how we take that factual information and interpret it. Or even change it for fun. Now, this is nothing special. For sure we could do this with any character, but..get real, were talking about me here! So, as we begin, remember that this IS interactive and will require a lot of your own answers..don't be shy;) OH, and even though im sure you figured this out already..there will be some rambles..so ..um..bathroom breaks or coffee refills should be taken in account for running time. *takes a deep breath and begins* (note: I CANT SPELL!!)

Physically, Lexington is obviously unique. He is the shortest of the Wyvern clan..not including Bronx:) He therefore is slightly weaker then the others. When one looks at his wing type, one can also see a vast difference in stucture compared to his friends. This difference in weight, height, and wing gives Lex his uniquness and helps to build his own personal character. In the show, these differences lead to his physical strengths as well. Being lighter on his feet, Lex can dodge enemies with ease. In the air he is an airial acrobat, and on the ground as quick as a cat. His wing type and light weight helps with both speed and agility giving him an edge and keeping him even with his larger and stonger buddies.

On the show, these differences are simply explained. His parents, or one of them, had similar traits. But how do all these differences help to build his character and our views on him? Short stature leads Lex to find other ways of battling. His talent and interests in technology go hand in hand with this. He can use his talent in computers to help play an active role in his clan. Living in the time they do now, it is imperitive to have such skills making Lexington indispensable. He therefore uses his mental skills to make up for his lack of muscle. How dose this effect our views? Well, reading fanfic and talking to lots of different ppl. It has become apparent that a lot of ppl either think Lex is younger.Either that, or they know but find it makes more sense..or perhaps a better story. In any event, it is not only his body that makes us think, or want to believe this. Lexington clearly has an innocence about him that can make anyone think he is younger then his rookery brothers. But looking only at his physical characteristics, what do we see? Large, child like eyes, a round inviting face, a small stature and a light friendly voice. These things alone could lead a person to decide Lexington's age at some point below his siblings. Thinking of Lex as more of a child can really influence a persons opinion of his character and to what degrees he can perform mentally, physically, and emotionally. If one sticks to the feeling that Lex is less mature due to age alone, then one may have a harder time explaining certain aspects of the character.
*** Pause for interaction***

Ok, for those of you who think Lex is younger, think it would be better if Lex was younger, or just write in your fiction that he is for the heck of it. Please explain why you did this.
Was it because you honestly think he is younger? OR
Was it that you just think it makes more sense in the story/stories? Explain How or why:)

***Back to rambleing report**

If Lexington's 'cuteness' leads us to question certain things such as age and ability, then perhaps in a somewhat twisted manner this also causes us to question his loyalty. In simpler terms, "never under estimate the lil guy". Something about Lexington's 'innocence' proves damaging in that it can make a person question what is going on behind the sceens. "So he's cute and rushes into things, hes smart right? How smart?" How much does Lex really know? How much does he keep to himself? We know for instance that he can build up a motercycle..and repair a damaged helicopter...what else can he do? We know that he is on the computer a lot. Dose he chat in chat rooms? Leave comments in comment rooms? Probably. This means for instance that he has far more human friends then we may ever know about. What do they talk about and how do they interact? Who knows. So meny unanswered questions. So meny secrets. This is more then enough to cast reasonable doubt on him. And yet..is is just a coincedence?
Looking at this Factually..no its not. We know for a fact that something will happen as a result of Lex keeping so much bottled up inside. What is that something? Perhaps only Greg knows. *shrugs*
***Pause for interaction***

Explain how your views of Lexington changed post TD.
Example: "Ya, Lex, hes kinda cute. He seems pretty smart too."
"Lexington? Ya..hes cool and all..but theres _something_ about him..I dont quite trust him."

In other words, did you see any evil tendencies before you saw Time dancer? How much did that episode really change you views on him?
***back to ramble***

Taking a closer look at the fandom and their views: Looking at fanfic what do _we_ really think of Lex? And I mean this in every aspect. His intelligence, how smart he is and what he can do. His maturity, how old he is or how old he _acts_. Even his..well sexual potential. *rolls her eyes* like I could have skipped that considering the fans we have *L*. How will he act when introduced to a female and what type of female would he be interested in. Which would he interact with best? Human? Fey? Mutant? Some kind of Crossbreed? (course..beggers cant be choosers) Looking at most fiction, It appears that Lexington is more often then not paired up with a human. We also seem to make a pattern of his 'girls' personalities. They almost always have technicall skills and love comps.

An interesting point to look at would be a test that was held at the now abandoned Temple of Trio. The test asked various questions involving the Trio. Lexington came out on top in the majority of votes. Some of the votes he won were, "who would you rather spend a day with?" "Who would you save if the Trio was in mortal danger?" "Who is your overall favorite of the Trio." What am I getting at here? Well, the fact that we put Lex with so meny human females..and the fact that meny of the ppl poled and otherwise would love to be close friends with Lex leads me to believe that we may see a bit of ourselves in him. This goes back to when I discussed how we, as chat-addicts, may feel a connection to Lexington. Just like our own lives, Lex has his life with his clan (family and close friends) then again, his life on the internet. There he has a whole new group of friends. Friends who share his interests. Mabye...even a girl friend or two;) Do we assume there is a lot behind the sceens going on with Lexington because we ourselves share the same lifestyle?
***Pause for interaction***

Do any of you feel that Lex has some other Life on the internet?

Perhaps there is a fan group for gargoyles out there. Lex could even be the rooms moderator. Or at least an outstanding member:) *L* *light bulb goes on* ya..he should really meet a nice girl from a room like that..*dreams for a while* er..never mind.

How do you think Lex would interact on the 'net? Outspoken? Flirtataious? Mabye even a bit crude *g*
***back to ramble***
Not that I really wanted to get to this..but another good thing to look at in fiction is that we always seem to think of lex as..well not tooo shy around girls. He is almost always the antagonist..and darn skilled at it if I do say so myself:) He seems to have no problem getting quite cozy with a girl. In most fics he has only one major mate. But in others he seems to like staying a swinging bacholer..and talk about making the most of it! Its interesting really. We tend to think of Lex as the younger, less mature of the three. But then again..he dosnt seem to have any problems sexually. Why is this? Why do we think of Lex as ..a bit on the naughty side?
***pause for interaction***

OK all you fan fic writers..WHY? Why is Lex a lil naughty?
If he isnt in your fics..then what is he like and explain why you think _that_ is how he would react?
***end the ramble*


OK well..er..I'd better shut up now hey? I know, I know..I rambled so bad sometimes its hard to figure out what I was getting at..DONT WORRY! *grins* I'll fix er' up one day and re-post it!! *Grins*

*glides out*

Lexy
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 11:53:56 PM
IP: spider-wb074.proxy.aol.com

Okay ... little cooler now ... unfortunately, as well, not much to comment on this evening anymore ...

Lady Mystic/Fire Storm: Good start on the page, guys, I'm lookin' forward to seeing it evolve. :)

Stormy, re: Wagner's Silent Night: Whoo hoo ... I can relate, shoppers around this time of the year can be soooooooooo annoying ... even at my store. Of course, they're annoying most of the time ...

SJ, re: Trek originality: Man, I wish they'd taken a cue from Marvel's Trek comics, they had an *original* series which kept ties to the TV shows but had an excellent premise, writing, and originality in its own right ...
I don't know if anyone else collected this book other than me ... I'm referring to "Starfleet Academy."
The tie-in they kept with the TV shows was Nog, who was the anchor for the series, basically. The series involved Nog's training company, specifically the kind of trouble they got into ... of course it's above and beyond the norm. Folks, this book died an altogether too fast death ... I mean, it was so good ... they didn't believe in "status quo!" Would you believe ... one of the starring characters actually *DIED!* PERMANENTLY!!! There's no resurrections and/or Selas ... she *died,* plain and simple. Gawd, I miss that book ... at least some consolation comes in the fact that the "Starfleet Academy" art team is now working on one of my monthly buys, "Young Justice."

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 11:13:30 PM
IP: zzz-209252248157.splitrock.net

Naturally the one day I actually have time to post and relax and stuff the site crashes and everything gets wiped... Oii... Figures...

Aaron- You'll be interested in this... Everyone else... Won't have a clue what I'm talking about. Anyhow, Today for my weekly mentor meeting with Ben Dunn, I got to meet Fred Perry, who was busy updating AP's website. Didn't get an autograph or anything, as I didn't want to seem like too much of a fanboy (That and he was busy), but I got to see Gold Digger number six freshly printed, and issue 7 on the full poster board scale in the good ol' black and white inks, not yet scanned or colored. And let me tell yah, while the 16 pages threw Fred off for a while, and they still are to a degree, some of the stuff coming up is great! Issue 6 has a Dragonball Z tribute of sorts, and it also brings back the peebos... Like you've never seen them before! ANd issue 7, (Or it mighta been 8, I couldn't tell) is well... VERY funny. Hee.

SJ- Live action Tick series? Woohoo! But... WHo will they find with a large enough chin? Rob Paulsen would be great to keep as Arthur tho... He has the voice, but unfortunatley his schedual is probably a bit too busy...

And I agree about Star Trek by the way. Needs a rest for a few years.

Robby
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 11:12:46 PM
IP: spider-wc043.proxy.aol.com

Christ almighty, will someone please fix Wyvern Web's F@#$ing server? Seriously, this is like, every few weeks the damn thing crashes. TWICE in the last week. Only good thing that happened with this most recent one today is that it erased the unpleasantness of the past 24 hours. That's a not too subtle hint to just let things drop, folks.

Tick News: Well, apparently that live-action Tick series wasn't a joke...it just may be happening. Especially since Ben Edlund, the Tick's creator, is himself involved as the writer for the new show...

Star Trek News: Good news for me, perhaps not for other Trek fans--Looks like the proposed fifth Star Trek series is still a no go, despite Berman & Braga's claims that things were moving right along. I'm happy about this. Trek needs a rest. Next Gen was good, DS9 was good *for a while*, Voyager is near-unwatchable drivel. Let the franchise rest, the fans will still be there.
And the best news I've heard is that Berman is reportedly on the outs with Paramount. Apparently someone big in the Trek Franchise (and, reportedly, "much-beloved by the fans", whatever that means) wants Berman GONE completely. Can't say I disagree with that. I say let Trek cool off, but if you still want to continue it, at least get rid of the current producers and creative team and stick in some folks that will actually do something groundbreaking or fresh and original with the show.

Sad news, folks....it looks as if Charles Barkley's career is over....career-ending knee-injury tonight (well, not career-ending, he's just calling it quits). He was hated, he was arrogant, he was an all-around @$$hole. But I loved the guy. Why? Cause of lines like this:

"I'd just like to clear something up before hand. I understand that ESPN is trying to F*** with me, saying that there was a controversy or something. Let me say that there is no controversy, it was just me and some of my friends playing around. And if they don't like that, F*** them and their families, too."
--Charles Barkley, before a press conference discussing some "bad blood" with ESPN

Ah, the now classic F*** You, and Your Family Too insult. You don't hear quality ball busting like that in the NBA these days. I shall miss you, sir Charles. Godspeed, Mr. Barkley, godspeed.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 10:49:30 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Re-posted due to the rather amazingly coincidental clearing of the room ...

New on my site:
"Puck Teaser," a fanfic for mature eyes only (that took a weird turn into dark places, to my surprise).
A pic by Heather of Hudson and Puck from "A Gargoyles Christmas Special."
Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Christine - [vecna@eskimo.com]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 09:47:34 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

*Valentine De-cloaks, and looks around*

Okay, what happened to the room? As nice as it is to see the fire gone, there was some stuff I wanted to reply to...
Looks like I'm gonna have to start saving the day's posts...

Tim P> - I've heard about that alternative script, but I've never seen it... Send me a copy, will ya?

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 08:59:21 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.238.168.dallas1.level3.net

***SPOILERS NOW UP!!***

If any of you are following BEAST MACHINES and want to know the identity of Jetstorm's spark, go check the main CR.

GARGOYLES CHRISTMAS--OF SORTS

Richard S. Wagner has been having a few problems with his Christmas shopping...rude salesclerks, pushy crowds, annoying canned music, bombardments of advertisements...so he's taken it upon himself to go shopping and bring his very own brand of "Peace on Earth." Click and enjoy.

Stormy - [<--Wagner goes Christmas Shopping]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 08:11:33 PM
IP: dynixpc2.huron.uwo.ca

Well, since I was online I thought that I might as well stop by.

Since the room wiped relatively soon after FS' post, I'll reannounce the news.

Fire Storm's Dimension is up and running! Visit his world via the link below.

His fan fiction can also be found here. Change your bookmarks. The old URLs to his fiction are obsolete.

We'll be expecting feedback concerning the content and design of FSD. So please send us a line (mystic-storm@usa.net). Thanks :)

For those of you who have been expecting emails from me: Check your email. If you haven't recieved one from me expect to within the next few days.

I'll probably stop by later with FS so that's all for now. :)

Now for my sig...

< IMAGINATION & ENLIGHTENMENT | SPACE & TIME >

Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 08:07:29 PM
IP: t1-49.visitus.net

Since I've apparently managed to miss everything thats happened for the last week and a half, just thought I'd put this up, since its one of the only Christmas related shows I like. Click the name for a midi, and then read along!

"You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch
You really are a heel,
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch

You're a bad bananan with a greasy black peel!

You're a monster, Mr. Grinch,
You're heart's an empty hole,
Your brain is full of spiders,
you have garlic in your soul, Mr. Grinch,
I wouldn't touch you with a 39 and a half foot pole!

You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch,
You have termites in your smile,
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocadile, Mr. Grinch
Given a choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crocadile!

You're a rotter, Mr. Grinch
You're the king of sinful sots,
Your heart's a dead tomato,
splotched with moldy purple spots, Mr. Grinch.
You're a three decker sourkrout
and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce!

You nauseate me, Mr. Grinch,
With a nauseous super "naus"!
You're a crooked dirty jockey
and you drive a crooked hoss, Mr. Grinch,
Your soul is an appalling dump heap
overflowing with the most disgraceful
assortment of rubbish imanginable
mangled up in tangled up knots!

You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch,
You're a nasty wasty skunk,
Your heart is full of unwashed socks,
your soul is full of gunk, Mr. Grinch,
The three words that best describe you
are as follows and I quote,
"Stink, stank, stunk"!

Robby the CR DJ
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 08:03:02 PM
IP: spider-th033.proxy.aol.com

...

Wednesday, December 8, 1999 07:49:17 PM
IP: proxy-393.public.rwc.webtv.net

Example

Wednesday, December 8, 1999 07:01:15 PM
IP: 168-171-196-72.academicplanet.com

FYI for whomever asked about posting w/out a name>
put the cursor at the beginning of the Name: box, hold down on the space bar until it goes to the end of the box. You should be posting without a name :)

Jannie
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 07:00:27 PM
IP: 168-171-196-72.academicplanet.com

And once again, CR go boom...
jewel
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:57:40 PM
IP: atlnb211-27.splitrock.net

Hmm, top ten I guess...

-Robby

Anonymous
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:54:54 PM
IP: spider-wd052.proxy.aol.com

6th! :D
Bronx - [Bronx Wyvern4@aol.com]
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:54:00 PM
IP: spider-wc061.proxy.aol.com

Hmm, the room seems to have been wiped... ANd I didn't do it. Okaaay... Wyvernweb must be acting up again...

-Robby


Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:53:12 PM
IP: spider-wd052.proxy.aol.com

wow! does this count? ;) bonus time!

wipe out!!! *gets out surf board*

Jannie
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:47:03 PM
IP: 168-171-196-72.academicplanet.com

Good thing this place wiped ... but I feel line a carrion eater claiming a space up here .... so I don't lay any claim ...
Toku Kaioto
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:45:30 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Uh... First. Gee, didn't think that would ever happen.
Tim P.
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:45:26 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu

Okay 3rd then.,..


darn , wrong hyena

SpotWeld
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:44:14 PM
IP: seahawk.engin.umich.edu

ah second isn't so bad
Bahemut - [walzx002@maroon.tc.umn.edu]
Saint Paul, MN, USA
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:43:41 PM
IP: ip178.minneapolis8.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

2nd
SpotWeld
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:43:39 PM
IP: seahawk.engin.umich.edu

HAH! FIRST! for once in my life! lotta MNers around here.. what say anybody that wants to e-mail me? I like to listen! :)
Bahemut - [walzx002@maroon.tc.umn.edu]
Saint Paul, MN, USA
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:43:21 PM
IP: ip178.minneapolis8.mn.pub-ip.psi.net

Anne: I agree with you about ALIEN 3. There were a couple of plot holes (example: How could those eggs get on bourd the Sulaco after the Queen lost her ovadepositer on LV-426?) and the lost of some of the best characters (Hicks, Newt, Bishop). RESSURECTION sort of made up for it with the introduction of Johnner and Vriess.

If anyone wants it, I can E-mail a copy of an alternative screenplay I found that was turned down in favor of the ALIEN 3 script that was used. In this version, Riply is put into a coma early in the film. Meanwhile Hicks and Bishop take up the fight against a newer, deadlier, and scarier form of xenomorph. I wouldn't mind if 20th Century Fox developed this into a Mature-rated telivision show.

Tim P.
Wednesday, December 8, 1999 06:41:54 PM
IP: bn104-01.wsc.edu