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Got too used to the Reunion chats ... :P
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, February 27, 2000 08:46:13 PM
IP: zzz-209252248166.splitrock.net

**growls and kicks DC**

You made me lose a whole frikkin' post! ARG!!

Let's see what I can remember ... mumble grumble ...

Mara-ko, re: Tolerance of gargoyles: The least tolerant times would be the Roaring '90s (probably better known as the Xenophobic '90s, due to the United States' policy about immigration) and the late '40s-early '50s (McCarthyism at its ugliest ... couldn't ya just picture Demona being called before McCarthy's House Un-American Activities Committee and trying (but failing) to resist the temptation to rip that little worm into eleven pieces?). I concur with you about the '60s being more tolerant, my love ... I assume that's your assessment because of your chibi-"Hair" cast. I also think the early 1990s (when PC was the big buzzword) would've been more tolerant as well ... not the late '90s when they woke up in the show.

Mandolin: Once again, congratulations on being the only person to successfully guess the identities of the parents of *both* lovely ladies. :)

Fleur/Xanathar: I've already passed this along to you, but it bears repeating ... you two are a beautiful couple (say, how'd today go for yas?) ... may you have as much or more happiness as that which Mara and myself share. **takes Xanathar's cue and kisses his own beloved**

Robby: You got a point there about fandom couples ... yet another reason to thank Greg Weisman every waking moment for creating that wonderful show. :)

Lifestyle change: Chalk up another vote for gargoyle.

Ah well, at least I got the post in now, and it won't be disappearing on me. See ya's guys on the other side (after the wipe).
**wraps his arms around Mara and sits on the couch, adding to the sugar level of the room**

Coyote
Sunday, February 27, 2000 08:44:50 PM
IP: zzz-209252248166.splitrock.net

Hi.Just a few things.

Poll:>Ok,by now we got:

11 Gargoyles
8 Battlesuits
3 Mutates
2 Cyborgs

The poll continues.

Hydroholic & Cyborg:>Welcome here!I,too,am pretty new in the CR (moreover,I have to write in a language that is no my mother tongue) but I can assure you'll enjoy staying here!

Gside:>Very good question.Interesting,indeed.Well,I think that if your electro-mechanical upgrade CANNOT be removed by yourself,completely,without medical assistance,in a short time,in almost any moment,without physical or psychic suffering,leaving you the same person you used to be before upgrading yourself (no more,no less),then it has to be considered Cyberware at all practical purposes-at least,I think so.
Question:what does "Na zdorov'ya" mean?Where does it come from?

Goodbye,see you all.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, February 27, 2000 06:48:23 PM
IP: h213-16-244.mi2.albacom.net

Anne> Do you know how many issues of the 'Gargoyles'comics were published? I only found one and that was when I was living in Alaska. I too wish they were still selling them.
Archwolf> I'll be sure not to anger the Chibis or the huge dire wolf.
Gside and Sarge> My state quarter doesn't come out until 2004 and by then I will be living in another state. I *hate* being in a military family.
Oh, has anyone seen the previews for 'The Ninth Gate'? Bye!

silverstar
Sunday, February 27, 2000 06:30:35 PM
IP: l1p33.dav.mother.com

Actually Gside, I was making a Monty Python reference with my NO ONE EXPECTS THE KLINGON INQUSITION!!! comment....
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, February 27, 2000 06:29:33 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-30.ultravision.net

Sarge> <<I saw my state quarter and it seems dull>>: Oh yeah, well at least yours doesn't feature someone leaving your state.

The topic of "juxtaposed pictoral and other images in deliberate sequence" seems to have come up, and I would just like to recommend The Guide to Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud. Great book, just bought it yesterday (with a Calahan's anthology), and it analyzes so much about comics.

Sev. Jr.> <<BEGIN OBSCURE MEL BROOKS REFERENCE>>: Who said anything about obscure? I just quoted it last week, I think Skippy used it two nights ago in the special events chat, and I saw the actuall sequence twice this week.

Toku Kai> <<crazed scientists>>: Sure, blame the scientists, that all do...

Warpmind> Black Knight: I'm invincible. **cue CR peanut gallery: "You're a loony"**. But then, being an engineer, I do have a soft spot for the witch scene. (So, if she weighs the same as a duck...)

SOROW> <<no elbow or knee spurs (I really don't like those)>>: Come on, spurs can be so much fun. Great for self defense.

Shadowrider> <<while... cyberware seem not very popular>>: Odd question: does a suit become cyberware when it is neurally linked? I guess this depends on the definition of cyberware...

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:52:26 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

New on my site:
Many more great pics of Jericho, the Damien saga, and more!
Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Leva and Christi > thank you for doing such a great job on the Reunion! It was a lot of fun! Big round of applause!

Jewel > maybe a boycott? A public shunning? If you convinced (and I doubt it would be too hard) the fandom at large to never read anything by this person, never respond, never have anything to do with him, he would not be getting any attention for his actions. Not even negative attention, which, for some, is sometimes good enough to encourage.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:47:48 PM
IP: 10-102.009.popsite.net

Sorry about the spelling (especially for Hydroholic! :/

Green Baron> Hmm...that would be interesting! *LOL*

Anne
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:41:07 PM
IP: 204-246-241-192.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Hi all! :)

I just got done looking at the cartoons in Avmists, and, well *ROTFLMAO*, they were very nicely (for lack of a better term) put!

Shadowrider> *LOL* Flying sheep indeed...er, Wilek, could one of your pets escape and prove us wrong? Curiosity thought. :)

Christine> Oh, that's awful! *hugs* *gives evil scowls at agents, clenching fists* Never knew this business was going to be so tough either. *sighs* Just got to keep on marching... Dad says when I turn fourteen (April 2nd, soooooo close! :) he's gonna attempt to get me an agent by sending in my final draft for Ghost Haven, but it's not that easy I see. *sighs again*

Wilek> <<...it's always hard to take. :( >> No kidding :*( Yet there is a comic store that we found that sells a lot of X-men stuff, a whole bunch of anime and such, it was disappointing to find no Aliens though. At least I got to know my next destination for a long, long time, and most of the comics look in good-quality and are well-priced. (I also saw Witchblade, and gasped "Uh uh!"). I wish they still sold Gargoyles comics, those I'd buy faster then a heartbeat. :)

SJ> *sigh* Agreed (everything). Thanks for the info on Superman and Buffy & Angel. :)

Lessa, Silverstar, Cyborg> Sorry I'm so late! Welcome to the CR. :) You too Hydoholic! :)

Jaden> Lestat became a rock star?! Woah! I think I'll continue the series after all! O_o

Warpmind> *LOL*

Max show> Drats. Missed it!

Sorow> Yes, where has JackaL been? And Pissy? And Duece? And all of our friends???? O_o

Well, if I can find time, I'll post tonight and try to bring Claw with (he stayed home cus he's been busy with the new 64 we got. >:)

Bye all!

Anne
MN, USA
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:34:46 PM
IP: 204-246-241-192.nas2.apv.gblx.net

RP WARNING!!!
**Saul Ste. Marie, Michigan
Reverend Attila and the scouts are in Michigan awaiting confrontation, but instead two men in white robes appear.
"Gate cultists.." sneers Attila.
"We just wanted to inform you that you fell for their plan. The Hollywood Ten is now in the Avatar and it was all a distraction to keep you clowns busy. Plus we have a disruptor so youc an't retrun to teh Avatar, unless some immortal psycho hacks us into bite sized pieces..."
"Shut up, Jim. Don't give away our vulnerability."
Attila places a tee and a golf ball on the ground, and teh cultists start running, when out fo nowhere OJ Simpson appears with his nine-iron and takes out a machete to hack the two gate members into bite-sized pieces.
"Two more down. Only 48 to go."
"Well, those morouns gave away the plan. Luckily, I have soem reinforcements following us back to the Avatar. Wanna help, OJ? Now that you're back in good standing."
"You bet. It's time to kick some Hollywood butt."**
PAUSE RP!!!

Kaioto> You are truly a fortunate man. Mary smiles upon you.

Anne> Once he finishes off the Ten, a kitty disco party can be arranged :)

Fleur and Xanthar> I want pictures of you two at that event :)

Shadowrider> I'd choose to be a cyborg with internal implants, so as not to alter my appearance. Perhaps some chips in my brain to triple my IQ and make me a little stronger.

Bengali> Thanks for the info. I thought you used IM more often since you post using AOL.

Welcome to Paul, Cyborg, and Hydropholic.

Cyborg> Well, where I live Protestants wear green, too. I imagine that goes for most Protestants in the CR, too. Personally, I find wearing orange on St. Patrcik's day to be the equivalent of playing Wagner on a day that is a memorial of the Holocaust. I refuse to eat oranges on St. Patrick's Day, too.

Bronx> ::hugs and kisses:: I'll see you soon on IM I hope.

Wilek> Oops. BTW, I liked that picture. Maybe it's the shadow of Al Sharpton :)

Aaron> Well, I just think Perot would be funny as a wrestler, plus he is a natural chibi :)

Mecord> What is Logan like? One of my middle names is Logan, btw. I heard Logan was also a very devoutly Mormon area.

RESUME RP!!
**Avatar of Gannon
The Hollywood Ten materialize on the ship.
"Now, it's time to take this vessel. Gurads will eb arriving, but we can take them. First, Barbar Streissand don the triangles."
Cheesy Japaneese music fills the air as the obnoxious off-key singer transforms into Mecha-Streisand.**
TO BE CONTINUED!!!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:32:10 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Hello! I don't really have much to say, but here it is:
Wilek> I have no sanity to hand over. It's kind of sad really, but hey, it works in situations like this.
Demons in politics> I always knew there was something evil with them. Now we really know.
Gargoyle acceptance> If I found out that gargoyles were real I would be very excited. I think that more than 5% of the population would accept them, but not anymore than 20%. The rest would probably fear them or just go on with their lives not really caring they were there.
Female gargs> I have noticed that there were very few variations in apperances of the females. I would have expected them to look different, like the males do, not all skinny with different colorings. Oh well, what's done is done.
Well, I have to go now. bye!

silverstar
Sunday, February 27, 2000 05:22:57 PM
IP: l3p53.dav.mother.com


Toman: actually, there's a number of 6-limbed animals with calcerious {bony} skeletons: lungfish, celocanths, sharks, {all normal}; frogs {mutated through polution}.


Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 27, 2000 03:53:46 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Yo i am new to this site i just got a computer.I was a big fan of the show i used to tape the reruns on usa.I typed gargoyles as a search word on a hunch i never thought i would find something like this.IT'S GREAT!!!!!!!!!!I ain't sure what u r all talkin about on this chat but i am sure after a while i will figure it out.I added this page to my favorites and plan to come alot.I would just like to say you guy's r doing a great job and i plan to see all the new episodes.I thought gargoyles were gone 4eva......this is phat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Hydroholic - [Hydroholic537@altavista.com]
bradford, mass, usa
Sunday, February 27, 2000 03:17:21 PM
IP: xcom-78-64.mdc.net

*Walks wearily into the room, leaning agaist War Frost for support* Hey all...Just recovering from a huge tournament at OSU yesterday. Had an overal good day technicaly, but still got trounced by several ppl. My team did ok, even with one of our women's epeeists comming down with chicken pox the morning of the event. Our Sabre fencer broke his thumb, and I think I cracked my right foot and pulled a few muscles. It was a lot of fun, though :)

Beast Machines>I saw the new Silverbolt. Wish they would have made hima full wolf instead of avian, but hey, can't always have what you want. I envy those who are getting the new BM season..I have to wait until september.

Silverstar>Welcome. Make yourself at home, and don't anger the Chibi's (or the huge dire wolf) *War Frost smiles, showing lots of sharp, long teeth*

SJ>I didn't expect the inquisition *WHOOSH* NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!....Sorry, random Python reference.
Gargoyles Tolerance>I don't know that I agree with

Wilek>When you succede, can I have Ireland? Got some scores to settle with the yahoos in the north.

Gargoyle Acceptance> I think the more intelligent people wouldat least give the gargoyles a chance to prove themselves. Us gargoyle fans would blindly trust them, and stupid people (god, I really hate stupid people, don't you) would want to have them hunted down. Since stupid people outnumber Intelligent and Fans, gargs would have a hard time getting along in our world.

Upgrade>See what i miss when i am our of touch for a while? me, it would be a mutation (something on the line of a huge wolf (gee, as if you couldn't guess))

**RP**
Archwolf and War Frost had backtracked to where they had entered the station and mangaed to find Archwolf's lost Klaive, War Frost lecturing Archwolf the whole time. "Well, at least this time I didn't have to put up with our cousins on the otherside of the Arkadia GateWay. They really do tend to get on my nerves." The giant dire wolf just shook his head. Archwolf was about to say more when he saw War Frost start sniffing the air curiosly again. "What is it?" War Frost growled that he didn't know, but really wanted to find out. He looked back in the direction they had come, and then in the other. After a second of thought, the dire wolf set off that way. Archwolf couldn't do anything but follow. After a few minutes, the scent trail split, going in tow more directions. War Frost gave a small bark 'Backtracked'. He thought again and set off on one of the paths, while Archwolf kept watch on the surroundings, making sure they were not being shadowed. The scent trail was strong, and it presented them with no problems following it. After an hour or so, they end up infront of the infirmary. They could hear a voice from inside. "How did it end up with _them_?" a pause. "Damn. Why did you stop following them?" Another pause. "Another presense, huh? Well, can you tell where they are now?" a short pause. "You could have said something." Then, in a louder voice, "You can come in now." the two entered the room to see an elf on a medical bed, and no one else. War Frost looked at the elf, then woofed at his companion 'Don't eat this one'. archwolf shot a withering glance at his dire wolf. "Come on, it was self defense." With that, he looked back at the slighltly confused elf, determined to get some info on where exactly he was, and what he was doing here.
**End RP****

Oops..the laundry machines beckon, so I'll talk again later
Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Sunday, February 27, 2000 02:47:49 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Hey, all. I've missed oodles, but I'll play catch-up later. Just a quick post.

I have a...small problem. This small problem once posted here, but he thankfully went away. Now he's come back to darken my internet doorstep. Bleh. Anyhoo. This...small problem is convinced that he has some right to use my fanfic characters, even though I told him two years ago he couldn't, and, just yesterday, I told him, "In my fanifc universe, I am God...and my characters don't exist in your universe." (he told me a plot point I was working on--and which I had told him repeatedly was set in stone--was "up for debate," which prompted the "I am God" comment.) He has managed to read this into "but I can still use them since I'm writing in the Athena-verse"...nevermind that has beeen *forcefully* pointed out to him by many, many writers (me, Tara O'Shea, a few others...) as not being the case. If I ignore my small problem, it just comes back, and further, he does what he wants anyway. I have even told the small problem off *repeatedly* and said many many many unladylike things (y'all have seen my frothing rants, and this pest has gotten at least three such frothing rant e-mails, one of which consisted of, "Never e-mail me again.") So, short of homicide, how the heck do I get rid of this snotrag?

jewel
Sunday, February 27, 2000 01:35:14 PM
IP: atlnb105-35.splitrock.net

A quick note before I get on with replies.

The new mp3 is another song I first heard on the lamented TV show Due South. This time, we have Superman's Song by Crash Test Dummies. Share and enjoy.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, February 27, 2000 01:33:19 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Cyborg> Oh, french! Well, I was close.

Wilek> No, I don't think so because the words genetic engineering scare me. And if I was a gargoyle, I'd want more than just the wings...even though that's what I really want. The brow ridges and the arched feet have always struck me as cool :) And the tail, gotta have the tail.

Anyone talk to JackaL lately?

SOROW
Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:06:19 PM
IP: dll2a010-0250.splitrock.net

Todd > Nope, never read that. Never was a big enough fan of dragons to have found that (not knocking dragons - just never got into them).

Four limbs / six limbs > I should've clarified myself and said vertebrate animals. Of course there's all sorts of insects, aracnids, and crustacians with mutiple limbs... but no animal with a bony skeleton has ever evolved to have more than four limbs.

Voyager > I found that rather funny, too, that the "Fairhaven" holodeck characters were suspecting Janeway was really the Faeire Queen. I wonder if it was a purposeful in-joke or just a fluke of the scriptwriting.

Patrick Toman
Sunday, February 27, 2000 11:45:46 AM
IP: abd74c03.ipt.aol.com

Re: names. 'Renard' is french for fox.
Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Sunday, February 27, 2000 11:10:31 AM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

After much deliberation, we would like to announce the winners of the Gargoyles Fandom
Reunion art contest:

Canon Gargoyles:
Honorable Mention: Michaelangelo Demona by Laurean Broadbent aka Siryn
3rd Place: "Angela: Contemplation" – Trishana Prater aka Karlyl
2nd Place: "Brooklyn: Contemplation" – Kythera
1st Place: "Brooklyn on Motorcycle" – Karine Charlebois aka Kanthara

Fanfic Illustration:
Honorable Mention: "Shade" from the fanfics of Lindy Hensley – Regina Lagrone aka Lady
Littlefox
3rd Place: "Courtship" from Wintersmith Dreams – Cindy Kinnard aka Eden
2nd Place: "The Scottish Play" from The Gargoyles Saga – Rene Modesto aka Damocles
1st Place: "All My Fault" from Ambient Anarchists – Amy Cyrway aka Cavalier

Original Designs:
Honorable Mention: "Cairo" by Mike Garcia
3rd Place: "The only thing that looks good on me is YOU" – Aimee Major
2nd Place: "D*H" – Alison Wilgus
1st Place: "Erebia Nyx, Daughter of the Night" – Krystal Higgens aka Niamhgold

Congratulation to the winners and to all the participants in the art contest. It was a particularly
difficult show to judge because of the high quality of the artwork and wide range of talent of
the artists. Leva and I would like to express our appreciation for all your hard work and for
making the Reunion a memorable occasion of all the members of the Gargoyles fandom.

Thank you very much!!!

Spike
Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:50:51 AM
IP: pppt04-95.ght.iadfw.net

Here I am ("...I'm the master of your destiny...I'm the one,the only one,I'm the god of kingdom come...GIMME THE PRIZE!..." Sorry,I couldn't resist.;))

Poll:>The updated situation shows:

10 Gargoyles
8 battlesuits
2 mutates
1 cyborg

(I hope I didn't miss any vote)

Well,the Gargoyles candidates are bearing off (I can't say I'm surprised) while Battlesuits-lovers,after a bright start,seem a bit in crysis.Mutations and Cyberware have a very little audience,and this is surprising to me:I expected them to fight with battlesuits for the second.Anyway,battlesuits-lovers,keep on fighting,nothing is lost yet (I'm not impartial,you say?Well,maybe a little...;))

Thanks to everyone who voted.

Spacebabie:>So you liked Ripley's armor in "Aliens",huh?I liked the movie,but I think that armor is a little too slow and bulky for my taste.Anyway,Is jus a matter of taste.

Cyborg:>Gargoyle appearance:>Quite a good point,especially about regional differences.

Cyclops of the X-men:>I,too,am glad he's gone.I couldn'bear the X-men lead in battle by a "Super-boy-scout" like Cyclops.I hope he'll stay away for a long time.Because bad things always happen,I'm sure he'll back-sooner or later:(.

Do Gargoyles dream?:>Good question,indeed.I wondered about it a lot.Well,a Gargoyle as he turns in stone,is still alive,although his methabolism stops,so there's no reason for him not to dream or to feel sorrow.We don't know really what happens to a gargoyle's mind as he sleeps-we don't know exactly even what happens to our mind.But,as long as I can remember,Gargoyles'dreams are extremely rare and usually happen in particular circumstances (anguish,fear or so).So I think that Gargoyles dream as the humans,but only rarely,when their mind is very troubled with some matters.About the sorrow,I'm afraid I really don't know.

Sorow:>Flying has always been my dream too.

Sevarius Jr.>You're right:Dylan Dog,a.k.a. "The nightmares detective",is an horror-themed series.I don't know Hellboy-who is him?

Wilek:>I admit you sticked on actual animals,I just wanted to warn other to come with "Red dragon/Kraken/Demon/Human hybrid" or so.About your choice...well,I think it is good to see that some people are able to think in a different way than others :).

Michael Heitz:>I've read "Avalon Mist" and your work today for the first time.I've been laughing like an idiot since then.I really appreciate your cartoons-they're really funny.I'm going to read the previous issues of "AvMists" to see your previous work

Well,Goodbye,See later




Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, February 27, 2000 07:12:23 AM
IP: h255-22-111.mi2.albacom.net

DOUG - You're not the only fan out there who's considered that gargoyles are related to dragons, and that theory could be correct. One or two elements in the series (such as the name "Castle Wyvern", and Iago's "By the Dragon!" oath) have certainly suggested it. Also, there's an old legend from medieval France about a dragon named Gargouille who ravaged the area around the town of Rouen until the local bishop slew him and placed his head and neck up on the town walls in commemmoration of the victory. Both the dragon's name and the fate of its head evoke "gargoyle" enough to set those little bells ringing in the head. (And I think that it could indeed have been a medieval myth composed for the precise purpose of explaining architectural gargoyles, the same as Greg's "modern myth" about living gargoyles in the series).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, February 27, 2000 06:38:07 AM
IP: 216.87.46.166.dialup-stl.primary.net

Jaden: Both, but mainly the first one.

Wilek: Thanks. :)

Doug
Sunday, February 27, 2000 01:26:44 AM
IP: pool-209-138-202-21-dlls.grid.net

**RP! (This one takes place shortly before the meeting in the closing RP of Doug's last post.)**

[The Dalek Prime is allowing Agent Rho to inspect the xenomorph genetic experiments in the Dalek labs. He notices several of the cyborg mobility units being assembled, and cringes at the thought that anyone, even the Daleks, could possibly find a use for those *creatures*...he notices several Dalek/xeno genetic fusion experiments that he reminds himself to yell at the Prime about later...and then they pass a door, marked 'Experiment 7-Beta'. Rho: "What's behind there?" Prime: "A CLASSIFIED EXPERIMENT." Rho: "Don't play games with me, Prime; if this ends up endangering the station--" Prime: "VERY WELL." The Dalek leader transmits an encrypted unlocking code to the door, which opens to admit them...and behind which, in a columnar glass enclosure, sits the most horrifying monstrosity Rho has ever seen. It's a queen xenomorph, apparently modified with Dalek DNA into an octopoid abomination, and hooked to several consoles and computers via conduits and wires leading into its brain, chest, and abdomen, and crowned with a Dalek faceplate and eyestalk. Before Rho's disbelieving eyes, the Dalek/queen 'lays', not an egg, but the organic creature at the core of every Dalek, into a specially prepared nutrient vat; it's quickly scooped up by a droid in the service of the Daleks and installed into an empty mobility unit. Rho: "Explain this, Prime. Now." Prime: "OUR MASTERPIECE: JENOVA~GENESIS. IT IS A FAST, EFFICIENT, AND LOW-MAINTENANCE ALTERNATIVE TO STANDARD CLONING TANKS. FOUR OF THESE AND A HIGH-YIELD REPLICATOR COULD REPLACE AN ENTIRE FACTORY VESSEL." Rho: "You do realize that this thing is a red-level biohazard." Prime: "NOT WITH OUR MODIFICATIONS. THE ABDOMINAL CONDUITS CONTROL THE GENETIC SEQUENCING OF THE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. THE CREATURE WILL NEVER PRODUCE FULL XENOMORPHS UNLESS WE ALLOW IT." Rho indignantly opens his mouth to say something, but is interrupted by a call from Commander Khesaat: "Rho, you're needed for a meeting of the command staff." Rho: "Can this wait?" Khesaat: "It concerns the possible takeover of the planet by a horde of demons." Rho: "I'll take that as a no. I'm on my way. <glares at the Prime Dalek> My office after the meeting. No excuses." With that, he stalks out of the Dalek sector and toward the main conference chamber.]

**PAUSE!**

Warpmind> <<Wilek, I've been checking a few things here... the Middle East and Asia might give us some problems, I might need to see more of your strategy, so I know how we can get those zones.>> Mass mind control. Powerful telepaths every square mile or so, programmed with the neural equivalent of a computer virus, designed to terminate reproduction after a certain number of generations, restricting its propagation to a certain area of land. <<As for Team Rocket... where does that leave Myau? ;)>> Meowth? Ehhh...somehow, I don't think I wanna know...

Micheal Heitz> Ah, glad to see you here. I just wanted you to know--after seeing the newest cartoons and the rather large custom figure collection, I officially worship you. :)

Shadowrider> <<stick on actual animals (no human/dragon mix or so).>> Um...I thought I did? <<Who is Mr. Disconnect?>> The guy we blame for various difficulties with electronics and such. Typically, if something goes wrong with our computers or whatever, we take it out on him in elaborate and painful ways. ;) <<It seems that this poll is turning in a "Battlesuits lovers Vs. Gargoyles candidates" match,while genetic engineering and cyberware seem not very popular.>> I've noticed. Heh...wonder what it says about me that I chose either mutation or cyberware? ;)

**BEAST MACHINES SPOILERS**

Silverbolt Neo> Eh...not exactly my thing, but I can understand the decision (they probably had to acquire a DNA sample to create the new body, and since I doubt they had either a properly malfunctioning pod or both condor and wolf samples...)...waitaminute! If Silverbolt's coming back...what of Jetstorm...?!

**END**

Newcomers> Welcome! Surrender your sanity, and watch out for itinerant elder gods...

Mecord> <<That "Goat head" is actually a circle of stars projected onto the screen at an angle.>> I noticed. But, isn't it...odd...that they came together in that exact way...?

Robby> <<I'm just gonna download the eps online and give Fox the same pissant treatment they're giving us when they eventually do show them.>> :O That's available...?!

Lessa> <<The first time I was introduced to gargoyles, I was hogtied to a couch while watching my three little brothers one night>> Um...

$Doug> <<Then Anoth and my brother the Dark Mage will close the portal>> Have I ever told you that you are an evil genius? :) $

Sarge> <<He's a purple pokemon version of Lexington!>> :O PICTURE. NOW. ;P

SOROW> <<Though I really wouldn't want to give up the way the good Lord made me, my choice would be to go gargoyle. It's very unlikely, however, because I don't think I could live without the sun. But my lifelong dream (which obviously hasn't been long) is to be able to fly. And I'm not talking about in a plane or with fake wings, but *real* flying. As far as what I would look like... probably a tan, beige, or medium brown tone because I think it's natural. Fingered wing talons (like Brooklyn's), my natural blonde hair, and no elbow or knee spurs (I really don't like those). So as you can see, if I was a garg I'd want to be simple and natural. But GOD! I want those wings!>> Hm...if you want to keep as much of your humanity as possible, it might be simpler to go with genetic engineering, the only visible alteration being the addition of bird or bat wings. :)

SJ> <<Wow...that Demoncrat thing has got to be a joke. A very, very sick and twisted one.>> Normally I would think so, except I'm told it showed up during the live broadcast (can anyone confirm this?), and I'd like to see how they could have accomplished *that*. ;) (Oh, BTW, I was listening to an MP3 playlist when I found this, and at the exact moment I pointed it out to a friend of mine, it switched to Consumite Furore, which is this uber-creepy Omen-inspired gothic choral bit {I can link to it if y'all'd like}. Coincidence?)

**RESUME RP! (right after the meeting)**

[In his darkened and heavily redecorated quarters on the station, the Dark Mage finishes his study of the Garou blood sample he stole several hours ago. DM: "Fascinating...I had no idea the werewolves had *this* kind of potential..." He chuckles evilly and leafs through an ancient-looking grimoire. "This will be perfect...now, where can I get a couple of coffins..." He's interrupted by his commlock, lying neglected on the nightstand: "DM? It's me." DM: "Brother? Leave me alone, idiot; it may not be apparent on an audio-only channel, but I am extraordinarily busy." Wilek: "This can't wait. We...we need your help." The infernalist mage smirks smugly and replies, "Indeed? With...what?" Wilek: "No time now; just report to Bay 13. We'll brief you on the way. If you have any spellbooks dealing with gates and portals, I recommend you bring them." DM: "Portals? Hm..." He uploads the text of several grimoires into a custom padd (ah, the tools of the modern conjurer) and sets off for the shuttlebay.]

**END**

Wilek Nereus
Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:58:10 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Not much to say tonight, so right to it...

Max Steel: *sigh* I suppose I may alienate some of the more staunch Greg fans in the room, but I did not like Max Steel at ALL. It...okay, to be honest, I thought it sucked. Badly. The Storyline and characters were just way, way too dull for me and so uninteresting. The premise? I thought I was watching a rerun of James Bond Junior (anybody remember that lame ass show?). And the animation....as good as the CGI was in Starship Troopers, this is the exact opposite. They should have just gone with the standard animation, IMO. All in all.....I do not believe this is even close to Greg's best work. I don't even think this is close to Greg's "mediocre" work. I was disappointed in the show.

Shadowrider: I am somewhat familiar with such Italian comics such as "Dylan Dog" and "Nathan Never", but only because Dark Horse published a few of those comics recently. Dylan Dog was my favorite, if I remember correctly. It was sort of horror-themed, if I recall. It sort of reminded me of Hellboy, which is a plus in my book. ;) And I agree--I would like Blink to return to the normal Marvel Universe.

Robby: I for one am glad they killed off Cyclops (or to be truthful, they merged him with Apocalypse). He always came across to me as the annoying boyscout who just would not shut up. I don't know what direction Claremont will go with his writing, but as long as it's Cyclops free, I'll be happy.

Silverbolt: Well, at least now he looks like an actual member of the avian species. Maybe it's just the fact that I like Beast Machines more than Beast Wars, but I don't really have a problem with the new design.

Wilek: Wow...that Demoncrat thing has got to be a joke. A very, very sick and twisted one. Wish I had thought of it ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:45:03 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Got an early morning so I'll make this quick.

Rodlox-"Curiosity didn't kill the cat, hesitation did." I love that! I'll use that whenever somebody says that "Curiosity killed the cat" saying to me.

Doug-Ref. to your post on Garg Tolerance. I made two posts about it, which were you referring to in your post (which is very good by the way)?

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:43:07 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Here is something I have been thinking about for a while. If a human is stabbed while he is sleeping, he can feel the pain and wakes up. If part of a gargoyle is knocked off during his stone slumber, would he feel pain even thoug he couldn't wake up? As shown in the Timedancer ep "Not a Prison Make", we read that Brooklyn had a dream. So if a gargoyle's mind is active during stone slumber to dream, then would he feel pain? Or would he just wake up and suddenly realize from pain that his freakin arm was missing!? I don't know! What do you all think?

Rodlox> re: names. Concerning where Fox got her name... her father's name is Haylcon Renard. I think in "The Fox Came Back", they said "renard" meant fox. From taking latin, I know "vulpes" means fox, but I think renard does too.

Xanathar> I received your first e-mail, but if you mean you sent a reply after that, then no I didn't get it. But the first one was nice :)

The Choice> Though I really wouldn't want to give up the way the good Lord made me, my choice would be to go gargoyle. It's very unlikely, however, because I don't think I could live without the sun. But my lifelong dream (which obviously hasn't been long) is to be able to fly. And I'm not talking about in a plane or with fake wings, but *real* flying. As far as what I would look like... probably a tan, beige, or medium brown tone because I think it's natural. Fingered wing talons (like Brooklyn's), my natural blonde hair, and no elbow or knee spurs (I really don't like those). So as you can see, if I was a garg I'd want to be simple and natural. But GOD! I want those wings!

Doug> Thanks, we had a *lot* of fun! Joe says to say thank you for the congrats. As far as his project, he turned it in a day late because he's a procrasinator. But as I told him a million times, it's his fault because I reminded him when it was due at least ten times. So I have no sympathy. Yeah, I know. I'm a bitch ;)

SOROW
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:59:54 PM
IP: dll2a010-0378.splitrock.net

Skippy > LOL, it'd take a brave soul to put on such a production! Go for it!

What I'd be > put me down for a leopard mutate, provided the enhancement comes with a built-in svelte-o-matic treatment so I get the shapely figure comperable to most female gargoyles ... otherwise my wings would never get the rest of me off the ground! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:58:51 PM
IP: 09-038.009.popsite.net

Something has been brought to my attention.

As I was strolling through Pokemon stuff......mainly because I love pokemon, I came across a new pokemon.,.....

Pokemon #207

Name: Guraigaa

Now why do i bring him up?

He's a purple pokemon version of Lexington!

Sure he has a couple extras like crab feet and hands....but along with that is that small head and webbed wings......

A pokemon version of Lexington......Guraigaa

Oh god the world has gone insane.......

Sarge

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:53:30 PM
IP: spider-wn044.proxy.aol.com

**RP HERE- BE ADVISED**

On the Avatar of Ganon, word of the Ravens' new plans is quickly spread amongst the team. Most of them then retire to their rooms for rest while Stephanie and Keith ensure that Mecord is placed in the infimary alright. Doug and Kit hear about his condition and come to assist as well, and soon the elf is recuperating under the Chief Doctor's watchful eye. Then, as the four Ravens are walking back to their quarters, they run into Warpmind. "Hey guys!" he grins at them. "I was just coming to find you." "Warpmind," Doug greets him. "You're back. Good. What'd you find out?" Warpmind frowns and looks around. "Uh, can you get everyone together so I don't have to repeat myself?" Kit nods. "Sure." She and the others then use their cell phones and tell all the Ravens, Jaden, the station's high command, and Wilek to assemble in the Avatar's main chamber in two hours. "We'll rest and then meet you there," Doug tells Warpmind. "Orion has nap spells that will allow us to sleep less time in order to fully regain our strength. In two hours we'll all be fine and you can tell us your story. That alright?" "Yeah, that'd be great," Warpmind nods. "Hope you're ready to hear it, 'cause I've found out a lot." "We'll be ready," Keith replies. The Ravens then hurry on to get some quick rest before the meeting while Warpmind heads on to the room to make what briefing preparations he can.

**END FIRST BIT RP**

Greetings. Time to do the catch-up I've been needing to. :) Hope everyone's having a good weekend so far, Kit and I have been enjoying ours. The Reunion Fanfic Conference was good last night, not as many came as I was hoping but at least we writers got to do some good discussions and make a few interesting fic previews. Hope all the fics in question get posted somehow sometime. :) And I'm glad the conference gave me a few interesting ideas too. Thanks to all who were there, hope just as many or more will come to next year's (I'm hoping to attend it of course).

Fanfic Progress: "Elysium" is now past the introductory scenes and into the first sequence of action scenes. The story's looking like it will be another long one. :) That's all the progress I have to report at this time.

**WARNING- SPOILERS FOR VARIOUS NEW WEEKEND MEDIA**

Jannie: Saw Max Steel this morning, and I have to say it was the high point of my TV watching. :) Considering all the other programs I saw were reruns and the new Pokemon ep had a very disappointing ending (though it did start off good). Liked the plot of the episode (great mystery in there, I look forward to more of it being explained), and all the characters (who I found interesting for the genre). Very good character development and interaction, and the villains were quite intriguing (I'm hoping to see more of them soon, especially L'Entrange. I don't know why, but I just thought that guy was cool). Greg definitely did a good job writing and the voices were also pretty nice. The animation was amazing by my standards too, but I'm no critic of animation, I know it stunk in other people's minds. :) Max Steel is definitely a show I'm going to keep watching, and one I wouldn't mind playing a videogame of. :) BTW, congrats to you and Denis on being able to get to G2K.

Saw one good movie this weekend also- "Reindeer Games." I recommend the film to anyone here who enjoys action conspiracy flicks, it definitely succeeded as one of those. No especially good acting, but the plot and script did work out well even if they were both more than a little contrived. :) The movie was definitely entertaining and had good moments, so those were the pluses. Charlize Theron as the star was also definitely a plus in my book, she may not be that good an actress but she is hot. :) Overall, 7/10, go see it if you like action and conspiracy. Otherwise avoid.

**SPOILERS END**

Jenna: Read the fanfic, good job. I liked the sci-fi atmosphere, and your writing was interesting, believable as far as character development goes, and well-paced. The characters were well-portrayed also, I think I should be reading more of your fics than I have recently. :) Hope you keep up the good work. BTW, I also prefer long flowing hair in females, and like the Demona/Delilah eye ridge thing. Glad we have something in common. :) Thanks for mentioning some of your Garg fanfic females, I may borrow some of their descriptions someday (the Indian ones could especially work for members of Clan Pakistan whenever I get around introducing them :).

Shadowrider: Good way to preserve your sanity. :) My favorite TGS characters are all those Kit mentioned as well as Thersites (Dark Ages) and Rory (Pendragon). To answer your question about Garg/Cyborg/Battlesuit, I'd prefer Battlesuit because I could always add lots of nifty features and slip in and out of it easily (thus maintaining my human identity in most of my life). Not sure what all I'd put on the suit, but I'd probably start with what Zack wears in my fanfics- A black and gold Buzz Lightyear-type suit with full flight capability, self-contained oxygen, NBC protection, small laser in each arm with targeting HUD display in helmet, combat viewer in helmet as well, and heavy laserproof/bulletproof/stabproof armor all around. Stealth capability and strength amplification too, with full manual control. And a radio to communicate with others and listen to police band, terrorists' communications, music, whatever. Some kind of nanite damage-regeneration system would also be cool. That would probably be enough. :) So put me down for battlesuit, and you can also put Kit down for Garg. She'll explain further in her next post.

Garg Evolution: Good points about this, Todd and Selanit. Not sure what was responsible for them turning out the way they are in canon Gargs or TGS, or would be IRL. I'm no bio major. :) I know that in my fanfic the first gargs evolved as a lesser subspecies of dragons, and probably have some human ancestry in them as well. (I know they'd have to have undergone a lot of evolution from dragons, the two species are VERY different.) Maybe something similar happened in TGS, I don't know. :) Magic has surely played a small role in their evolution as well, just as it has in that of humans (though neither is a magical creation, magic's just played on them like any natural force). As far as garg fossils go, I did the same thing with them in my ficverse as Christine has done in hers.

Garg Tolerance: I unfortunately agree with Bengali about how it'd be in the real world if Gargs appeared today. :( I know in my ficverse, it's probably like that for most people on most of the planet. Only in New York is it like Jaden conjectured (the rest of the planet is becoming like that, but it's taking a while), and there's an ever-growing group that's like Kaioto speculated people would be, otherwise it's how Bengali said. :( Good thing that most people have concerns in their lives other than the Gargs, and the Illuminati (Xanatos) is doing what it can to keep the clan safe anyways while things develop for the better, huh? :)

Female Gargs: I know in my ficverse, not all of them are supermodels. Angela, Demona, Sata, and Ari are the only regular female gargs, and their bodies are just as they are in TGS (which is a bit too hot, I know). My original characters have been and will be somewhat different. I know Lillith was way more athletic than slim, and most men would find her hairy legs unattractive (they fit with the character's description is why I put them in, also I think very few women shaved their legs in 7000 BC :). Ashe had ram horns and was probably robust as any normal garg female warrior in her adult stage, if she was thin I didn't concieve of it in my mind. <shrugs> Ami, Akira, Kasumi, Natsu, and the other original female Ishimura clan members I did had average garg figures, which is toned female athlete level, yeah, but that fits with the characters. :) Most of my not-seen-yet female garg characters definitely won't have the kind of small waists we saw on the show, I know that, though they will still be good-looking. :) And at least some will have distinguishing features too- horns, crests, additional eyes, beaks, etc. At least one will have lots of tentacles/appendages on her body also (due to Symbiote alien bond, not a innate physical characteristic, but it will be there); and another (Kadijah, leader of the Pakistan Clan) will be bald.

Kaioto: Congrats on getting back your computer. I too wish more people in the world were like the guy who helped you retrieve it. <sighs> At least one of the few was around to help you out. :)

David G: I saw your Demona post too and thought it a very good psyche analysis. It definitely fit in with my thoughts on her development, and I thought I could have used some bits from it to develop her in later fanfics. Too bad it got wiped. :(

Big Congrats to Xanathar and Fleur on getting together. Glad to know yet another two people in here have found happiness. :) Hope the trend goes on.

Buffy & Angel: Good episodes this week in both. Liked all the character development in each's ep and the emotions in Angel's. Good foreshadowing and acting in the Buffy ep as well (Angel had good acting but nothing special, Buffy had many special bits :). Kit's already pretty much given the rest of my comments on those episodes, I'll just add that I too like what's happened this week and can't wait for what's next, :) especially with the Council, evil SMG, and Faith.

Sorow: Congrats to Joe on the contest win, sorry I didn't say so before. And I'm also glad you both had such a great time at the concert. :) Hope the success and fun continues for you both. And I of course hope Joe gets through his school stuff alright, and it's over soon. :)

SJ: Welcome back. I agree with you about the Millionaire Show, except that I hated the fact that it was even put on TV. <sighs> At least it's having good results now, as far as Fox's future programming goes. Fox issued another statement today saying they're giving up such shockumentaries from now on (with good evidence to back up the claim) and will be reviewing the process of how the Millionaire show got aired to clean up the idiots in their programming department essentially. Hope they end up firing the producer of it, the same guy who's brought us all Fox's stupid reality specials, IMO he's never given viewers anything worth their time and he did have things much worse than Millionaire waiting in the wings. <gulps> I agree with you about Witchblade too, I have never read the comic for the same reasons you haven't. Good stories are what draw me to comics, not well-figured nearly nude chicks. Thanks for the Matrix and Wes Bentley info, I personally think Wes will make a good Lestat and look forward to seeing him in the role. (I liked American Beauty too, no matter what reasons you find to take back your earlier good opinions of it. :) I agree with Christine about Anne Rice, but have usually found parts of her books entertaining and good. Agree with you about the Matrix too, it was good but that doesn't mean everything out there has to look like it. Doesn't Hollywood realize how fast things can get old when overdone? <shakes head and sighs> (BTW, just so all know, I don't plan to go Matrix in my ficverse any. I know I have some characters who look a little like they walked out of it, but their appearance was more due to other influences. Weston gets his look from Wesley of Buffy mostly, Zack from Highlander and Toy Story, Johnny from the film Dirty Dancing, Muscles and Salton from images in my mind, etc. Jade's look was modeled on Mr. Popular of Tiny Toons, believe it or not. :) It just worked with the character.)

Christine: Sorry more agents are rejecting you, some of them I think definitely need sense knocked into them (especially that one who wanted you to pay fifty bucks to know how to change your book and then turn you down anyway, how is that guy still in the business?). Like I said last night, great job on Avalon Mists, you and all others who contributed. Liked my profiles' new format (just seeing them was good of course), and all the various art was wonderfully drawn, especially the cartoons (my favorite of them was Fay Watch, with Oberon and Titania's to-die-for expressions). My interest wasn't immediately caught by the fanfic, but I may of course read it later. Overall, good issue of AvMists, hope the next one has more stories and pics of at least equal quality. :)

And I guess that's all for tonight. The room's been slow lately, so there's not much else to say. <shrugs> Oh well, I am kind of tired. Later!

**RP AGAIN**

Fully three hours later, the Ravens, the Avatar's high command, and Wilek have all heard what Warpmind found out on his trip to Hell. "So let me review this," Shap frowns when he finishes. "Two groups of demons are both planning world takeovers. This Mephisto guy, and some coalition led by a dude named Deavik. We're gonna have to stop both, Doug." "Yeah," Doug agrees. "Problem is, to get Mephisto we'll need to track down his operatives on the station- Sammael and Dyspare." "Security's doing that as best they can now," Agent Rho says. "We'll surely find them." "And even if they don't, we know Mephisto's plan," Wilek adds. "I've already got a devious way to counter it in mind. As soon as Mephisto opens the portal from Hell to this plane, we fire a Death-Star caliber laser into it and decimate his army that's lined up to come through. Then Anoth and my brother the Dark Mage will close the portal and ruin everything. He'll never know what hit him." Kit chuckles fiendishly. "You know, that could work. So I guess we don't have to worry about Mephisto if it does." "I guess not," Doug nods. "We have time to worry about him anyway. Deavik we're not so sure about. Warpmind didn't find out much about his plans, or his allies.' We're gonna have to do that on our own in the next few days before things come to a head." "We know Synatia's on his side," Boris recounts, "and Gothmenes. And those Hollywood Ten people Reverend Atilla mentioned." "We better check them out first," Elena says. "They'll be trying to complete the Earth stage of the plan. If we eliminate them, it all falls through." "Right," nods Gubio. "They told Atilla to meet them in some place in Michigan, maybe we should go there." "Wait, guys," Tricia says. "I have a bad feeling that's just a diversion. Whatever the Hollywood Ten are up to, I think it could be in Los Angeles." "Yeah," Shauna agrees. "That'd make more sense." "Besides, Asil's in LA too," Jammer adds. "Don't we have to take care of her before she does any more damage?" "We do," Doug nods, "though personally I'm not as worried about Asil and Thailog as I am about these demons." He frowns for a moment, then nods. "Way I see it, what we should do is go get Asil now and gather info in Hollywood while we're at it. Let Wilek track down SJ, Sammael, or whoever the heck he is, and get the Mephisto plot handled if necessary. After we're through in LA, we can go to Michigan or Atlanta or wherever Ted Turner is and take care of him. We'll need to get him in order to ruin Deavik's cadre's plans, Atilla told us that much." "Okay," Erin says. "That sounds good. Let's stop debating and do it. With every moment we delay, more lives are at risk." "Right," nods Kit. "So, Wilek, can you get a shuttle ready to take us down?" "Already prepared," Wilek replies. "Standing by too." "Okay then, guys," Doug stands up. "Let's get our stuff together and get on." The others nod and rise from their seats as the screen goes blank.

**END THIS INSTALLMENT OF RP**

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:30:33 PM
IP: pool-209-138-202-154-dlls.grid.net

Hi everyone, I have no idea what I am doing but I am here! The first time I was introduced to gargoyles, I was hogtied to a couch while watching my three little brothers one night, but it wasn't until much later that one of my best friends turned it on while trying to avoid his homework. That's when I fell in love with Goliath and Brox. Don't ask me why about Goliath, but Brox, well I am a animal lover. My parents are always telling me not to bring any animals I see home with me (except reptiles, not to fond of them). One of my favorite episodes is with the banshee, Brox finally gets to get out of the castle and have his own adventure. I kind of was dared in a way to try this, by the one, and only Mecord. So here I am, ready or not!
Lessa
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:24:33 PM
IP: usr48.mtwest.net

Hey all. Yes, I am alive. Just been busy.

I just saw Voyager and some holodeck characters thought that Captian Janeway was the queen of the faeries. Imagine that. :)

SJ: <I'd say Roddenberry has probably been spinning in that grave of his so much he's halfway to China by now.>
Actually, he was creamated and some of his ashes were launched into space.

Who wants to marry a millionare: Ya know... they may just make a gameshow (a 1 hour show) where every week 3 men and 3 women compete to get married. The couple who gets married gets a new house and $1 million each (trust me. They would make up that money with one comercial break).
I hope this dosn't come true.

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:07:38 PM
IP: t3-57.visitus.net

As I recall, the precise reason why they decided not to use the name "Xavier" was because of the Xavier in "X-Men".
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:06:59 PM
IP: 216.87.46.157.dialup-stl.primary.net

from what Greg has told us, Xanatos' original name was "Xavier", but that didn't play well. Yet Greg liked the sound of it and wanted something similar. So we got Xanatos. That it sounds similar to the Greek word for death is largely coincidence.
Robby
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:02:21 PM
IP: spider-tm071.proxy.aol.com


Topic: Names:
Goliath was a biblical name, the rest of the Clan was after places in the city; Fox {probably} because foxes sometimes travel in packs {though not as often as, say, wolves, jackals, and hyenas}; David i think came from 'david and goliath' battles...

...but WEHERE {where} did Xanatos come from? is it the Greek? {"Thanatos? He has a name that means Death?" -Hercules the series}.

just curious.

"Curiosity didn't kill the cat; hesitation did." {forgot who said that and where}.
anybody know?

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 09:43:21 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

ROBBY - I'm not quite certain what to think of "Max Steel" myself. My big problem is that I'm not that much of a "secret agent" fan to begin with, so I'm not completely drawn to the episode. I did like a few parts of it (particularly the villainous mastermind, after learning of the failure of his scheme to abduct the German government, just saying, "Oh, well, I should have known better than to employ the people that I did for it" and moving on, rather than going into a tantrum - very Xanatosian), but I don't feel completely grabbed by it as yet. Only time will tell on this one.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, February 26, 2000 09:30:24 PM
IP: 216.87.46.157.dialup-stl.primary.net

Max Steel- Judging from the episode they had on Friday, (They haven't showed the weekend one here yet) I'm not going to like the show too much, Greg or no Greg. The characters, while having some good lines, just don't seem to have any spark to them, and the animation sucks. But I'm probably being too harsh after just one episode. We'll see.

Bronx- True, you didn't...

Shadowrider- I dropped all Marvel titles for a variety of reasons. For one, they were getting dull and repetitive, same thing day in and day out. For another, just when any given writer was getting a title to be really fun, the higher ups change the team and replace the writer. (In Generation X it was more a matter of the book becoming "The Adventures of M"... ANd in the main X-books the interplay between Marrow and Cannonball was awesome, so naturally they get rid of Cannonball...) A large part of it though is they took apart my favorite book, Excalibur, (I have almost a complete run) so they could move three characters to the core X-titles, and six months latter they split that team up anyway. The way things were being handled, it just wasn't worth my 2 bucks per title every month, though I may go back with Claremount writing it again. (I have kept up with what was going on for the sake of keeping up.)

Scott, the Diet COke of evil- No real spoilers are being given on this one, its just a mention of pictures of Silverbolt having a new look. ANd where transformers is concerned, saying the characters have a new look doesn't mean much. (Particularly in my case since I hate ALL the Beast Machine designs except for the Vehicons and maybe Cheetor.) And you got a long wait ahead, new Beast Machines eps don't hit the US for another SEVEN months. Me..? I'm just gonna download the eps online and give Fox the same pissant treatment they're giving us when they eventually do show them.

As far as not going to a transformers comment room to talk about it... This particular CR has a wide variety of topics, there is no "Off subject", particularly when no new TGS episodes are being aired. (Tho Timedancer is coming soon. I've finished inking all the illostrations for the first episode. Now I just need to finish coloring them...) Otherwise all the talk about WB shows would also off topic and innapropriate, which it isn't.

However, you are correct, since I actually described his horrid new look a little, I suppose that was a minor spoiler and I should have labeled it as such, even though it had nothing to do with plot points and means little without the picture to look at.

*X-Men comic spoilers*

Mecord- According to Chris Claremount, they AREN'T getting Cyclops back. He's sacrificed himself and is dead, and Chris wants to leave it that way. Remember, when he killed characters off like Thunderbird and Jean Gray as Phoenix, they stayed dead. It was later writers that resurrected her. Claremount actually knows how to write and that resurrections suck usually, so he will avoid it and leave Cyclops dead for as long as he writes the book.

As to why Blink can't come back from AOA? She didn't jump into the M'Cron crystal. (Though the writers slipped up and said only those without a counterpart could enter, and swince Blink was right there, had a power that would have been useful, and didn't go in, it means her normal universe counterpart is still alive.)


Robby
Saturday, February 26, 2000 09:06:13 PM
IP: spider-ta075.proxy.aol.com

To the question of being a gargoyle, cyborg, genetically engineered, etc., I would want to be a gargoyle. I am not really a sunny day type of person, I much prefer rainy days, and of course the night. Turning to stone wouldn't really bother me. Also I have always wondered what it would be like to have wings and be really strong. So I would definetly want to be a gargoyle. I wouldn't want to be half machine but I might consider being half tiger half bat like Claw. Well, have to go now. Bye!
silverstar
Saturday, February 26, 2000 09:00:15 PM
IP: l1p59.dav.mother.com


Cyborg and Archwolf:
Pterodactyls. {translation: wing finger}. example: Brooklyn {both in beak and wing}. The only problem would be that, unless the magic-users existed 65+ million years ago, they would have had to reconstruct the 'dactyls from fossil remains.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 08:47:59 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**Large top hat appears in the center of the room. A dissembodied hand reaches into the hat and pulls Mecord out by some rabbit ears.**

Hi all.

Wliek>> That "Goat head" is actually a circle of stars projected onto the screen at an angle. There are about three other stars as well. The "demons" are over reacting imaginations in my oppinion. But then, I'm not one that should be talking about over reactive imaginations. :)

Blink: I don't see why she can't come from the AoA universe. That's where X-man is from. I'm curious to see how the get Scott (cyclpos) back right now.

Silverstar>> lots of stars, we can always use another, welcome to the CR.

Shadowstar>> I made up my mind, Definitely a Gargoyle. I was always a night person anyway.

Max Steel: Wasn't all that impressed but it wasn't bad. Main character's voice is familiar. What else has he played?

**Jumps back into top hat and disapears.**

Mecord
Saturday, February 26, 2000 08:06:09 PM
IP: usr58.mtwest.net

Hello! I've been lurking for a while now. Nice to finally work up the courage to post something. I don't watch Beast Wars, but some of the threads from earlier this week struck my fancy.

Green Baron> The green of St. Paddy's day is for the catholics, the protestants are orange(men).

Mara> "Which decade in US history would have had the most/least tollerance for gargoyles?" I'm no american history buff, but I think that that might have been when they were ending segregation. The blacks would have supported the gargoyles as fellow persecuted, and those who resisted the end of segregation would have been against the gargoyles. I don't think that at any time would everyone be for the gargoyles. Even in the 60's, not everyone was a hippy.

On the subject of diversification in gargoyle appearances: As most gargoyles are warriors, they would be leading fairly active lives, this means that most would be in good shape. For females, this would make most of them slim with an hour-glass figure. As for other diffrences, (feathers and fur and snake- bottoms) these seemed to be fairly homogenous in-clan, and more noticable in other clans. (London, South America)I guess you could call them regional differences.

Archwolf> "Is gargoyle DNA a double helix or a tripple?" McAffry's Pernnese were kind of made to have tripple DNA, so that they would be bigger. And yeah, gargoyle DNA would have to be double to be splice with human DNA. I think that gargoyles evolved fron teradactyls. (I think that's spelled wrong.) Maybe they got six limbs from magical intervention- but they could not have been compleatly made by magic.

ShadowRider> As a modern-day cyborg, I can tell you that that is not what I want to be. I would like to be a fully organic human at the very least. That isn't possible. Neither is becoming a gargoyle. If a Dr. Sevarius came to me and offered to change me, I'd ask to become a gargoyle- all parts included, no assembly necissary.

On another subject entierly... Does anyone else here play NetHack? My Dad runs the Minetown Digger, if you do (or don't for that matter). I have shown him some of the artwork posted here and he is very impressed. If someone would like to send him articles or drawings for the 'Digger, they can. The URL is: http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp
An interesting thing in NetHack is that if you kill a gargoyle (NOT one of ours, more like those flying statues of Oberon's) and eat its corpes, you gain a resistance to getting stoned. (As in by a cockatrice, not by Mary Jane) I'll talk to you all later- it's time for my 3000 mile check-up:)

Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Saturday, February 26, 2000 07:35:49 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Wilek> eeps! hehehe...as they say - a picture is worth a thousand words *snickers*

Did anyone else catch "Max Steel" this morning? I watched it while I was taping it for Denis. I was wondering what others thought of it as well.

Christine> *nod nod nod nod* We're very excited about Denis making it to Orlando =) He updated his passport this week and with the tickets being purchased... well, it made it more of a reality that he's actually going to be here for it. His aunt is returning to NJ tomorrow and I've been trying to convince him to stow away in her luggage or something ;) *L* Once I get him in the USA boundaries, I may never let him return to Belgium! *w*
He and I will be arriving a few days early that week of the G2K so we can spend time together and see the sights before the festivities of the Gathering begin. Yes, I'm selfish and want to spend some private time with him before I have to share him with a hundred other people and friends ;) *g*

Jannie
Saturday, February 26, 2000 04:22:37 PM
IP: 141.198.1.4

Beast Machines > Some people have been mentioning Silverbolt without any of the spoiler warnings. I really don't want to know anything about the show until it comes on. So, for those of you like to ruin the stories before you see them, why don't you just take an extra second to go to a *Transformers* comment room, hm?

End rant.


Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 02:48:59 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Hey, saw that picture of the new Silverbolt.Yikes! They butchered all my favorite characters. I really wish that they kept Beast Wars going for a fourth season or at least kept the characters looking the same. Thanks to everyone who said hi! See ya' later! Bye.
silverstar
Saturday, February 26, 2000 02:24:22 PM
IP: l1p39.dav.mother.com

Wilek>>Yikes! And they said the Repulbican party is the evil party..no wonder I call them demoncrats

Robby>>They messed up Silverbolt? Oh man is my brother gonna be pissed.

Throws some Ice water on SJ>> Hey calm down,Of course I didn't see the grammys. I'd watched "EarShot" West Wing and South Park..hey anything is better than people handing awards to sugarpop groups that play to emptyheaded 14 year olds
ShadowRider>I'd love to be a mutant with alien DNA injected into me...Oh wait I'm already that ;) Make it A battle Suit, The colors turquoise and black..and it would look Like Ripleys battle suit from Aliens with a tail and wings,witha rocket pack"Get away from her you Bitca!" Heh heh, I always wanted one of those.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, February 26, 2000 01:47:30 PM
IP: user-37kap28.dialup.mindspring.com

Peter:>Seems to me I already said,but I'll repeat:you can't choose a gargoyle who doesn't turn in stone.If you want to chosse a gargoyle/human hybrid,you have to give it some disadvantages (replacing stone sleep with healing factor is a GREAT improvement from basical gargoyle-such a creature practically has no weak points).
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, February 26, 2000 01:45:16 PM
IP: h255-22-215.mi2.albacom.net

I would prefer to be a human/gargoyle hybrid myself. Get rid of stone sleep and replace it with a healing factor.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, February 26, 2000 01:25:42 PM
IP: dial-8.ocis.net

Greetings...

As a first thing,let's update the poll...with the contributions of Jenna and Bronx (thank you for voting :-) )
now it is:

6 battlesuits
6 gargoyles
2 mutates
1 cyborg

It seems that this poll is turning in a "Battlesuits lovers Vs. Gargoyles candidates" match,while genetic engineering and cyberware seem not very popular.Well...we'll see in the end.Keep on voting,if you like (if not,no problem) but,please,send a little explanation of your choice (I'm curious).

Jenna:>Done it! ;)

Robby:>Well,you're not totally wrong-in fact what I really want is that AoA's Blink to arrive in the Marvel Universe (hey,in X-men comics have happened even stranger things).Why have you stopped reading X-men?I mean,was it your choice or anything else?

Warpimind:>Mmm...well...I admit I didn't consider THAT...mmm...you're not totally wrong...maybe I have to reconsider my strategy...oh well: "Assistant,stop the operation immediately....what do you mean "IT IS TOO LATE!"?...Ops!Jalapena!Peste!PORCAP[the following words have been censored-they were not really important].I think I made a mistake.;).

See later.






Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, February 26, 2000 01:08:00 PM
IP: h213-16-78.mi2.albacom.net

Robby> I never said that I liked his new look though..

Silverstar> Hey! It's always nice to have more join up in the CR ^-^

Poll> If I had a choice to change my form, I would probably choose to be a gargoyle. True, seeing the sun couldnt be possible, and turning to stone isnt that convenient either. However I would have a new look on life, and, I get to do what I like the best. That's helping people who look for it.

Comics> For those of you that read Jonny the Homicidal Manaic, Squee, and Lenore, good news! Sony Entertainment is thinking about making a movie about Lenore. Details as soon as I get more news..

Marry a Millionare> :::shudders::: That was so awful! I couldnt imagine being one of those women in that competion to snag this guy. What is the world coming to?!

Batman Beyond> Augh.. another repeat.. anyone know when they are coming out with new eps?

Green Baron> *hugs* hope to talk to you soon!

Ahhh... well that's about it for now! I'm slowly getting all my stuff back for my computer *kisses her getright* Perhaps I'll see if they have more tapes of Slayers at the mall today ^-^

cya later rookery sibs!

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:30:04 PM
IP: spider-tj011.proxy.aol.com

Christine> What you said about entertainment during the judges deliberations at the Gathering started up a creativity demon...

Howabout a little short play titled "Greg Wiseman in Love"? Take the Garg characters, and show them as being taken from real people in Greg's life... Demon obviously being the jilted ex-girlfriend :)
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:50:32 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-35.ultravision.net

Bronx- The new Silverbolt... I saw pictures of that monstrosity earlier, and I have no intention of looking at your link to get more. How do they get THAT from Silverbolt? Silverbolt follows a knightly code, not a Samurai one, their both totally different... Not to mention his face looks atrocious, nothing like the awesome masked wolf he used to be. Oh well...

Blink of the X-Men- I personally liked the character long before AOA, (ANd liked her more after)but this is a case where Marvel is screwed. If they bring her back, people complain about the usual Marvel thing. If they don't, they annoy people who came to like her in AOA. Of course, due to a blooper they made in AOA, regular Blink *must* be alive, and her powers are teleportational in nature... And for two years when I read the letter columns addressing the subject of bringing Blink back, I wanted her to come back until they made a good point... In this reality, Blink was kind of a crybaby... What if they brought her back and she was a total annoying brat? That got me to change my mind to not caring. (Not that I've actually read any X-men books in the last year and a half...)

Robby
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:50:15 AM
IP: spider-we044.proxy.aol.com

**delurks**
psst.. anyone want to see the new look of sliverbolt? ^-^;; well, clicky on my name if you cant resist!

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:47:15 AM
IP: spider-tr013.proxy.aol.com


Shadow rider- add to your list one more garg!

jenna
Saturday, February 26, 2000 10:01:28 AM
IP: ppp-216-62-143-227.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

*Warpmind enters, rushed.*
I've got half an hour until I've got to be at the bus stop, then there's a few hours of travel until I'm back at my place again. Thank God it's Norwegian time... I'll be there just around sunset...

Shadowrider: You nuts? If we let the Middle East/Asian countries exhaust themselves, we have a king-size cleanup operation on our hands! Those guys have bioweapons, chems and nukes! I urge you to reconsider. Think about it; if you run the world, wouldn't you want to have some people to govern, too?

**RP**
Warpmind picks up the half-empty vial and raises a brow at Kaioto.
"That bad, huh? That's kinda weird... unless..."
Warpmind turns the vial upside down and reads.
"Ooops..."
Kaioto perks up.
"What do you mean, ooops?"
Warpmind quickly stashes the vial into his pocket.
"Nothing serious. The sample was just... a little aged. A small warning about the flavor growing sweeter over the years."
"And...?"
"Um... how to tell you this... I took the wrong bottle. I meant to take the vial I myself retrieved last time I was there. I accidentally gave you the sample an earlier Realmsfarer had acquired."
"And how old is earlier?"
Kaioto cracks his knuckles.
"Now, don't get upset..."
"How old?"
"Um... 1412? Hey, at least it's just the flavor, it could be worse, right?"
Warpmind slowly backs out from the medical wing.
**RP END**

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, February 26, 2000 08:49:11 AM
IP: mp-217-218-200.daxnet.no

Poll:>by now we got:
6 battlesuits
4 gargoyles
2 mutates
1 cyborg

Interesting...seems that many people would turn into a gargoyle,totally changing by this way their nature,but very few would give only partially away their humanity by turning into mutates or cyborgs.Very interesting,indeed.As far as I am concerned...well,I already said I'd like to be a gargoyle,but just for a while...a mutant...well,I'd like to have a healing factor,super-human wits,a little super-strenght,super-agility and three retractable (ADAMANTIUM,PLEASE!!!!) claws on each hand ("I'm th best at what I do,bub! SNIKT!) :).I'd accept cyberware only to replace damaged or amputated parts of my body (in that unlucky case,I'd like a little enhancement,of course),but my choice remains the battlesuit.

Wilek:>Of course you can choose a mix of animal traits for your mutant,but stick on actual animals (no human/dragon mix or so).Who is Mr. Disconnect?

Sevarius Jr.:>You're right,I forgot mentioning Blink!!I loved her as she appeared in Marvel Universe,and I was really afraid as she sacrificed herself.I hoped her re-appearance in AoA was to mean that she'd come back in Marvel Universe too,but it did't happen.I keep on hoping,anyway (who said "in mutants'paradise there's no gates,but turning doors"?).I'm inpatiently waiting X-Chris' return too.So,the anime invasion took place in the U.S.A. too,huh?Well,at least in Italy the old audience of the super-heroes managed to hold his ground,as well as the Italian comic production (Dylan Dog,Nathan Never...have you heard about them?),so I can still find my X-men comic books in the comic store near my house.Anyway,even here in Italy anime are selling much more than any other comics-on the newspapers,"comics" and "anime" are used as synonimous!!:(
Are they REALLY trying to remake Superman in a "Matrix-style"???I hope you're kidding,or they're kidding,I mean,it is madness or what?I liked Matrix a lot (I've seen it...mmm...5 times in theater,of which 2 times in English) but all this "let's make a movie resembling to Matrix,no matter the story" is no more a comedy,it's turning into a tragedy!:(

Silverstar:>Welcome here.I'm quite new in the Room,I connected the first time a few days ago,but I'm sure you'll enjoy here :).

Warpmid & Wilek:>Don't worry about Middle East and Asia,I'm working on it and I can assure they'll give you no problem at all!!(Wanna know how will I do?Well,basically I want to make them fight each other until they're exausted...;))

Gargoyles tolerance:>I don't change my point about what would happen if Gargoyles appear nowadays.About other historical periods...well,maybe the one who said that American Indians before the Colonization would have welcomed gargoyles as "good spirits" is right (I admit I don't know much about their culture,maybe even other ancient populations would have welcomed them) but,as far as I know,maybe the gargoyles'd have a better chance in the Roman Republic;in that time,before the authoritarian Empire and the decadence,Roman civilization was very tolerant with foreigners (no matter where they came from or what gods they preyed,they were welcome-if they didn't cause troubles,of course-).Then,Romans were very little superstitious,so they probably wouldn'h have seen Gargoyles as "demons",but simply as another kind of people-a little more exotic than others,but not so much.Moreover,the Roman's practical spirit would have found of much use the strenght and warrior courage of the Gargoyles (probably in a short time every legion had a detachment of Gargoyles assigned,for nocturnal protection,esploration and surprise attack).

See you later.



Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Saturday, February 26, 2000 07:05:01 AM
IP: h255-20-215.mi2.albacom.net

Hi, Christine...big congrats for the new Avalon Mists..:)
Michael Heitz
Saturday, February 26, 2000 06:55:02 AM
IP: stu1id1a.ip.tesion.net

*Warpmind enters, holding an economic atlas for 1994.*
Hi guys. Wilek, I've been checking a few things here... the Middle East and Asia might give us some problems, I might need to see more of your strategy, so I know how we can get those zones.

Shadowrider: I think either the battlesuit, or a mechanically boosted endoskeleton, plus enhanced sensory equipment. Like a gas chromatograph in the schnoz. :)

Doug: You're welcome. :)

Aaron: No, it only works if you chant it thrice in succession, uninterrupted. I believe we should be in the clear. As for Team Rocket... where does that leave Myau? ;)

Anne: I hope to get those pics today, but I frankly doubt it a little. :( Maybe next time I'm at my father's PC. (The school computers have a port ban - can't upload via FTP from there.) And I think I can understand Claw... the way a psychiatrist might... ;)

Gside: Your assumption is correct. Never had the chance. However, I hear a buddy of mine recently taped the whole thing, so I might have a chance in the near future... (but I *have* seen the duel with the Black Knight.)

Christine: Ooo, new Avalon Mists? Must see... And as for that agent schmuck, well, screw'im. You don't need him anyway.

Wilek: I see you and Hastur are on first name basis? Maybe our takeover will be a lot easier after all... ;) But I guess Shubbie might be a bit preoccupied these days, alright. ;) And that demon pic was interesting. I thought I had already dealt with that demon. *Checks a small, black notebook.* No, wait, that was his brother. Oh, well, time to go to work again...

See ya.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, February 26, 2000 05:18:46 AM
IP: mp-217-212-156.daxnet.no

I prefer being human on most principles, but I have a particular reason for being a gargoyle over a battle suit … I want a tail …

Actually, I think Liz-chan has a picture of me as a gargoyle now … I need to get it in and scan it.

In light of recent personal experiences, I'd feel pretty bad if I had a cynical opinion of the individuals out there with regards to gargoyles. I'll put it this way … I think it would break down around maybe voting … as in … the majority of people wouldn't give a damn about gargoyles if they didn't affect their lives. Sure, there would be some crazed scientists and government activists, some insane grass-roots Protestant preachers trying to make statue-smashing mobs, but I think the majority of people just don't have enough of a vested interest to get involved. I think there would also be a strong, loyal core of people who would be willing to do a range of things to support the gargoyles.

Alright … I've got to sleep now …

**RP HERE**
Kaioto listens intently as Warpmind explains his proposal. Shifting in his hospital-style bed, Kaioto quirks an eyebrow up.
"Quencher?" he repeats again. "So your telling me I have a Satanic counterpart with a name that sounds like he got kicked off the set of a Gatorade commercial?" the Seeker quips dryly, "That does ~ wonders ~ for my self esteem."
Grimacing, Kaioto half-smiles and reaches for the offered vial. He removes the stopper and sniffs it. "Whoa," he wrinkles his nose, "Well, if it doesn't kill me …"
He tosses it back and drinks about half of it down quickly. Lowering his head, his eyes nearly bug out of their sockets. His hands trembling, Kaioto barely puts the stopper back in the bottle and manages to get it to the counter before he flops out of the bed.
"Bwah!" he shakes his body out, his bleach-white hair tossing all about. "WOW!"
"What's wrong?" Warpmind says, smacking the Seeker across the back as he gasps for air.
Kaioto coughs a few more times, but manages to stand up. He thumps his chest with a fist a few times and clears his throat. "You ever been to Seven-Eleven?" he asks with perfect seriousness.
"Yeeeeees." Warpmind's takes his turn raising an eyebrow.
"Ever had a Slurpy?"
"Yeeeeah?"
"Remember the syrup stuff?"
Warpmind nods.
"Ever drank the syrup straight?"
Warpmind narrows his eyes and shudders, as if remembering an unpleasant childhood memory.
Kaioto points at the vial on the table. "Concentrate." He says simply, gathering his belongings and weapons once more.
**END RP**

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, February 26, 2000 02:23:10 AM
IP: 1cust230.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

The choice- I would have to say Gargoyle all the way. I know there would be some "down parts"; ex. turning to stone at possibly very bad times and never seeing the sun again. But with there are down sides to all the choices. The idea of being something other than human and being able to see things from a different point-of-view intrigues me. We all have an underlining fear of the unknown, well what would it be like if that fear suddenly wasn't there anymore? Maybe it would do humanity good to have something unexpected (like meeting another intelligent race) happen. As for looks I guess I would like grey skin, black hair, large Bat-like wings, tall, and maybe a small "fin" at the tip of the tail. Maybe come up with a new name too. Havn't really thought about it. ;)

Warpmind><<An Anne Rice fan?>> Guilty as charged, she's very good. <<Did I mention my given name is Marius?>> Yeah and I remember thinking "What a cool name to have." when I first found out.

Tolarance of Gargoyles pt 2- Most people here think that about 5% of people would approach Gargoyles with an open hand and that's like, what?, everyone who's ever been to the CR? Ok maybe not that small of a number but still that's very small and it sucks for at least two reasons. 1) That 95% of the population wouldn't be so open to another intelligent species and 2) that our faith in humanity is so low that we are predicting 5%. :(

SJ-I thought that Lestat becoming a rock star was kind of corny at first until I understood the reason. I also recommend the book Pandora, but not till after you've read the series.

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 26, 2000 01:14:27 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

If Gargs were revealed in the real world and personal upgrades- Heh. Things seem to go in circles. I've answered these questions at least three times before... Personally, I'd be thrilled by the existence of real gargs, since I've longed for Ninja Turtles and furries to be real as long as I can remember. As far as an upgrade... Exo-armor the whole way.

*Shrugs* I think thats all I have to say actually. Huh.

Robby
Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:09:04 AM
IP: spider-we061.proxy.aol.com

Hi everyone! I'm new here (as if you couldn't tell)and since I can't think of anything else to type I'll go now. See ya' all later. Bye!
silverstar
Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:08:06 AM
IP: l2p06.dav.mother.com

Kids, click my name. Now. This is among the creepiest things I have ever seen...
Wilek
Friday, February 25, 2000 11:57:33 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

***LONG DELAYED RP!!!****
Sammael, still wearing SJ's body, led Kari and Dyspare further and further into the bowels of the Avatar of Ganon.
"Wait!" Kari asked, out of breath. "Where are we going?"
"I...I need some peace and quiet. Away from everyone else," Sammael said. "I...need time to think."
"Sammael!" Dyspare whined. "When Mephisto finds out what's going on..."
"Shut UP, Dys," Sammael hissed.
"You need time to think? You need time to THINK??" Kari said, her voice rising. "I *finally* meet a man who's interested in me romantically, and he has to die and get replaced with *you*. And I find out you two are spies for some mysterious demon overlord named Mephisto! What does he want with SJ? Or this station?"
"Nothing," Sammael muttered.
"The hell it is."
"Fine," he said angrily. "You want to know the plan?"
"Sam..." Dyspare began.
"No, Dys. Let her know. We're spies here sent to sabotage things on the Avatar. Why? Simple--Mephisto's planning on conquering the world."
"Is that all?" Kari asked, her eyebrow raised.
"You don't sound to impressed."
"Pal, world conquerors sprout up faster around here than weeds. So what are you gonna do about it? Still gonna try and sabotage things?"
"We...we have to!" Dyspare said. "Mephisto will--"
"No," Sammael said, quietly. "We don't have to. I've only been a human now for a short time, but I think I'm beginning to like it....and I'm tired of taking orders from Mephisto."
Dyspare cringed. "You aren't--"
"Yep. I've been Mephisto's slave for too long. Time to teach him the meaning of the word revolt."
***END RP FOR NOW****

Oooooohhhh, it's been a long week. I'm lucky to still be conscious. BTW, I hope all of our New York CR dwellers are alright. I'm half expecting the city to be burned to the ground in response to the Dialla verdict...Oh well, on to the fun stuff.

Random Comic Book film news: Well, those pesky folks at WB are working on starting up the ol' Superman movie again. I wish they'd quit while they're ahead. Word out now is that the new plan is to (surprise!!!) make it more "Dark and Matrix-like".
*Sigh* I LOVED the Matrix. One of the best movies of 99, if you ask me (entertainment wise, that is). But does EVERY movie now have to be like the Matrix? Goddamnit, we got the X-Men flick ripping it off. Now that rat bastard Jon Peters (also known as the man who wanted Supes to fight polar bears for NO LOGICAL REASON) wants to make Superman just like it. This is so Hollywood--somebody does something right, everyone's gotta rip it off.

My new number one reason to hate Chris Carter: Hey, guess what folks! In an upcoming COMEDIC episode of the X-Files, David and Gillian will take a little break....and they'll be replaced by none other than Gary Shandling and Tea Leoni. Yes! Just what I want! More comedy injected into dark science fiction! Somebody give me a gun so I can shoot the writers.

Angel and Buffy fans rejoice! The WB has announced that both shows will be renewed for full seasons next year! Ah, at least that's refreshing. Tuesday is like, the best night for TV, IMO ;)

The Choice: Hmm....I'd say that I'd choose the battle suit. It's probably somewhat blasphemous to mention this in the CR, where gargoyles dwell....but I'd hate to be anything other than human. I couldn't imagine being a Gargoyle or mutate....it's horrific to me. I'm human, I love being human. Same thing with a cyborg; technically, I'd still have at least *some* of my humanity, but I gotta have all of it. Plus, a nice big mecha body suit would be cool! ;)

Anne: Ah, another comic book store bites the dust. Unfortunately, as the greedy bastards who run the comic industry continue to ruin it, it's the little store owners who get hit the hardest. A really great comic store near me just closed, and another is slowly phasing out its comic stock in order to add the only thing that seems to be selling well, anime. At least I'm lucky to have a couple Another Universe stores in my area.

Shadowrider: I too enjoyed the Age of Apocalypse storyline, and am looking forward to the return of Chris Claremont to the X-books as well as the addition of Warren Ellis to the other X-titles. Age was a fun plotline; and it will always hold a special place with me cause it brought back Blink! I always dug her; she would have been a great addition to Gen X, but alas, in the "real" Marvel universe she died to save them. Well...she's as dead as anyone in the Marvel universe, anyway, which isn't saying much....

Jaden: Really? So, Lestat becoming a rock star isn't corny? It just sounds so....so wrong. It's like something White Wolf would do. I love the White Wolf game studio, but the "vampire rocker" archetype (and they've done it, believe me) as always seemed lame to me. I'm of course discounting the Cure.

Jannie: So you caught some of the Grammy's as well? I couldn't stand much of them cause of the constant Rosie O'Donnell factor (It's the great PumpkinHead, Charlie Brown!), and that fact that I hate Latin pop songs. So I didn't get to see much of the outfits the ladies wore. I did catch Christina Aguilera....she's cute, I'm sorry. A bit dirty, yes, and how the hell did she win that New Artist Grammy....but I did see Jennifer Lopez. *runs hand over face* Oh boy. From a heterosexual male perspective, her outfit was very....exciting. But what's wrong with her? She doesn't have to look trashy. I'm getting mighty sick of her, and her totally psycho gun toting boyfriend.
BTW, the REAL insult is that the Grammy's nominated the Backstreet Boys for BEST album! I mean, I don't really like Carlos Santana, but at least he won over them!

Caliope: Glad to see you agreed with me ;) I like to think I'm right most of the time. Keyword being "like", cause unfortunately most of the time I'm completely off base ;)

Wilek: Grunflas the Flatulent? Old High Khemeti??? So, the heathen text still exists! Lock down the sinners, time for another Inquisition (and time for my medication!)!!!
***BEGIN OBSCURE MEL BROOKS REFERENCE***
"The Iiiiiiinquistion........the iiiiiiinquistion.....oh, the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!!!!!!"

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 11:29:26 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

I'm bored. So here I am chatting off....

Went to the fandom...no one was there at the time...however I'd expect they are now.....It seems so COOL! Can't wait for the fandom awards!

I'm downloading something right now....15 megs...:P....oh well.....It's worth it......

Currency=

I love all these changes in currency! So far this is what new!
1) The five dollar and 10 dollar bills have been changed and are being circulated.
2) The Massachusettes quarter is out a month early.
3) Vermont has recently choosen the deign for their state quarter
4) The new dollar coin is out.

I love these things, beats me but I collect them all. I saw my state quarter and it seems dull. Oh well. I laso have a 1995 2$ bill. I didn't know they are still being made! I wonder if they will change them like the did the other bills.

Oh well I'm rambling.

Sarge

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:50:33 PM
IP: spider-tf052.proxy.aol.com

**RP!**

[Agent Rho is escorted into the Prime Dalek's chamber...Prime: "YOU WISHED TO SEE ME." Rho: "I want to have a word with you about something that showed up in the battle in one of our hangar bays a while back." Rho then calls up footage of the xenomorph Dalek mobility units on a nearby screen. Rho: "Care to explain?" Prime: "OUR MATTERS ARE--" Rho: "No concern of mine? I've already been through that song and dance with your lackies, Prime; I want answers. <whispers conspiratorially> Need I remind you that without us, both you and the Borg would be extinct? It can easily be arranged." The towering Dalek calculates for a moment, then hovers off of its podium and in the direction of the Dalek genetics laboratory. "FOLLOW ME. WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS."]

**PAUSE RP!**

SJ> <<I swear if you read the CR backwards it might say "SJ is dead".>> Actually, if you read it backward, it's a poetry reading by Grunflas the Flatulent (or whatever his name is), translated into Old High Khemeti.

Gside> <<My computer's windows key occaisonally feel funky and starts acting like it is being pressed down. I would guess this happened to you and you typed an "e".>> Um...actually, I wasn't typing...O_o' <<See the løveli lakes The Wøndërful telephøne system. And mäni interesting furry animals. Including the majestic møøse A Møøse once bit my sister... Nø realli! She was Karving her initals øn the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge>> For some reason, I'm having a flashback to the closing credits of the Shadows Of The Empire N64 game...

Jaden> <<maybe it's just always there and the only time we notice it is when we have nothing else to focus on.>> Hm...intriguing...

Xanathar> <<if any of you would like to sacrifice some AOL execs to the Net Gods I'm sure she would appreaciate it.:)>> Heh heh heh...

Warpmind> <<you *know* that to summon Hastur the Unspeakable, you just have to repeat his name three times. So never say Hastur Hastur Has... um... *whew*, close one...>> Um...I thought it was some big long ritual involving nine stones in a V configuration, when the star Aldebaran is above the horizon? Like this: [Wilek enacts the ritual, and Hastur arrives, emitting a gurgling snarl which Wilek's translator renders as, <What do you want this time? I was busy with a new account.> Wilek: "Got a snack for you; a few AOL execs who've been keeping Fleur out of the CR." Hastur: <AOLers? Tasty.> Hastur takes them into its tentacles and crushes them into a thin pinkish film that it licks off its tentacles. Hastur: <Not that I'm not appreciative, but I still don't know why you couldn't have gotten Shub to attend to this.> Wilek: "She's on maternity leave." Hastur: <What, again?!> Wilek: "Black goat of the woods with a thousand young, remember? A few of 'em OD'd on a drug-addled sacrifice, and the number needs to come back up. Dunno why, but rules are rules." Hastur: <Oh well. Oh, if you see that drunken sot Y'Golonac, tell him he still owes me on that bet.> Wilek: "Will do." With that, Hastur recedes back to wherever it came from.]

Shadowrider> <<somewhere on the Net I found a kind of opinion poll.The last update was very old,so I think it's over.I'd like to re-propose it here and receive some opinions about it.
The question is:if you were granted the choices that Xanatos made to the Pack in "Upgrade",you'd choose to:
A)Become a Gargoyle (how would you look like?)
B)Become a mutant (what kind of mutant?
C)Become a cyborg,like Hyena (what exactly would you replace in your body?)
D)Wear a battlesuit,like Dingo or Xanatos (what kind of battlesuit?Which features would you like it to have?)>>
Hm...if I were human in the first place, I'd probably choose to be a mutate, probably a lion/tiger or direwolf/white tiger mix (both winged, of course). Baseline humanoids are so bland; it's nice to have some variety. If that weren't an option for some reason (and with *my* luck...), probably have my brain put into a robotic body (cyborg), probably a transformable one (humanoid, with perhaps a spider altmode) with repulsorlifts, holographic disguise capability, and a removable autonomous brain case capable of plugging into one of several specially prepared organic bodies or alternate mechanical devices, just in case. :) As for a battlesuit...ehh, I'd prefer designing one to actually trying to use one (Can you imagine Mr. Disconnect acting up while you're in a nuclear-powered techsuit? <shudder>).

Anne> <<For several weeks I haven't been able to go to the comic book store, and so when I got my parents to drive me to the town next door for the first time in a very long time, the only town with a comic book store within my parents' driving radius is now... *wipes away a tear*...shut down!>> Oh no! <sigh> This kind of thing has happened to me sometimes (I'm going to miss World Of Science)...it's always hard to take. :(

**RESUME RP!**

[Rho: "So, mind telling me why exactly you people are experimenting with xenomorph DNA? You do realize that that is amazingly dangerous; if those things were more widely known of, it'd be highly illegal." Prime: "WE CAN CONTROL THEM." Rho: "If they could be controlled, they wouldn't be so dangerous. You're risking your lives and those of this entire planet." Prime: "OUR FIRST STEP IN CREATING ANY XENOMORPH ORGANISM IS TO REMOVE ITS BRAIN AND REPLACE IT WITH WITH A DALEK REMOTE CONTROL UNIT. AN ORGANISM WITHOUT A BRAIN IS A DANGER TO NO ONE." Rho: "Haven't met Pistoff's customers, have you." Prime: "PARDON?" Rho: "Nothing. Still, if you ask me, meddling with xenomorphs is spectacularly stupid." Prime: "THINK. A PURE MACHINE REQUIRES MAINTENANCE AND ENERGY, IN LARGE AMOUNTS. AN ORGANISM REQUIRES NOTHING BUT FOOD AND GROOMING. CYBERNETICS OFFERS A SATISFACTORY COMPROMISE." Just then, they arrive at the genetics lab. Prime: "I PRESUME YOU WISH TO INSPECT OUR CREATIONS." Rho: "Lead the way..."]

**END!**

Wilek Nereus
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:31:26 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

I'm pleased to announce that the Spring 2000 issue of Avalon Mists is now posted! Thank you, all contributors!
Click or go to http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/avmists/

Book stuff > heard back from an agent with the "we like your book but it would need some editing before we'd handle it; for fifty bucks we'll tell you how to revise the whole manuscript so that we can then turn you down anyway" schtick ... I swear, there's more ways to get screwed in this biz than in all my stories combined ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:20:14 PM
IP: 07-152.009.popsite.net

Hey! Kindda fell behid here....

Sevarious Jr. > *raeds entire post AGAIN....* I still dont know you, but I love you anyways!!! I cannot disagree with a single thing you said! :P

Well, dont have much else to say today....bye...

Caliope
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:18:06 PM
IP: 200.50.3.35

I think I shall start off by sharing some standard Rutgers stupidity. The lead story in the Targum (our "official" newspaper) yesterday: "Wiring affects decisions, students prefer connected dorms." I put this under the header "no duh." Then, inside the story, there is "The networking will have live, direct connections that won't need modems." No, they just need something else to fill your computer. The next sentence: "'The connections will be faster, more reliabel and won't need telephone lines.'" Again, this is a *news*paper?

Warpmind> <<that sample of your lingual skills was so limitlessly BAD I can't even manage to get insulted>>: Wasn't mine. I just copied and pased from the opening credits to Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I only changed Sveeden to Norvay. Since you have not memorized it, I assume you haven't seen it yet. I stronly advise that you do: it is a great movie.

Shadowrider> poll: I'd go with build my own battle suit with direct neural interface. But then, I could go for claws, night vision, wings, and better reflexes/strength. I wouldn't really mind if other secondary characteristics seeped through...

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:15:40 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Aaron- try this em addy-- my glm one is no longer valid.
jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 09:04:57 PM
IP: ppp-216-62-143-159.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

Aaron- I didn't get your em !!!! :(
jenna aka Cairo of Clan Steelclaw
Friday, February 25, 2000 09:01:39 PM
IP: ppp-216-62-143-159.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

Jannie> I got an EM from Dennis. If my reply doesn't bounce we're back in business. I think I just had some letters transposed in the address.

Shadowrider> Given the options, I'd have to go with a battlesuit, too. I agree with Dingo ("I can't believe what you lot have done to yourselves" or something along those lines). This assumes that all the other options involve major physical changes. If I could be genetically enhansed to improve my strength, etc... and maybe get cool telepathic powers, but still look human that would be my choice.

My exo-suit would be a modular frame which could be modified for the task at hand. For a big fight, I could layer on more armor and strength enhansement. For grey operations I could add stealth technology. For long range operations I could add more power packs, life support, and communications gear.

The colors would probably be grey and black, since that's more practical than bright yellow and red, but basically I'm ripping off one of my favorite versions of the Iron Man armor. :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 08:41:53 PM
IP: ip43.fort-worth6.tx.pub-ip.psi.net

I have just a few minutes,so I do quickly:

Thanks to the ones who answered my little poll.By now we have 2 battlesuits,1 cyborg,1 gargoyle and 1 mutate ('cause Mecord was not sure,I counted both his answers).Keep on sending answers,if you like,I find it is interesting.N.B. I forgot to say:no kind of magic has to be involved in your choice (it means you can't be like Demona,turning human by day,'cause she obtained it by sorcery).

Anne:>thank you for infos.I admit I'm not surprised-I feared such a thing and rumors seemed to confirm that.So,another super-heroes movie will probably result in a second-rate work...well,I think that,as it will arrive in Italy,I'll go and see it anyway,just to see how they were able to ruin such uncanny characers as the X-Men are.Moreover,maybe it is soon to despair:who knows,maybe the unknown actors will reveal themeselves as a bunch of new De Niros (and maybe sheeps will fly...;)).

Well,goodbye to all.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Friday, February 25, 2000 07:33:59 PM
IP: h213-16-212.mi2.albacom.net

Mecord - Cool! If you want, give me a buzz before you return to Spokane... be nice to meet a fellow Garg Fan! :)

Aaron - Dude, you're all right! But I'm perfectly okay sleeping on the floor for a couple of nights. Robby? What say you?

Maintain and Check Six! :)

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 05:53:34 PM
IP: m125.ieway.com

David> *chuckles* "good grasshopper" was a reference to those old Kung Fu type shows where the master teacher would teach his student and then say, "you learn well, grasshopper." *silly grin*
I will let Denis know and will have him send you an email. I've also posted my email address, just in case. :)

Jannie - [jgmiller@teacher.esc4.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 04:37:57 PM
IP: 141.198.1.4

**Enter Mecord**

Jannie and David>> You're right, "Ya'll" it is. Sorry for the typo, I bad.

Thanks all who gave weapon suggestions. I liked the Nutron warhead idea. Come up with anything else let me know.

Shadowrider>> Common sense tells me to go for the exo-suit. Weapons would be minimal, probably just the arm laser and a shoulder mount with attachments. Flight and strength would be critical for me. In all, a similar design to the Xanatos battle armor modle. But this is a tough decision for me. I've always dreamt of flight, unaided by mechanical means. I have to say that in the end I would likely decide upon either a gargoyle form, or a Talon-like mutate. If mutate, Pobably go with a couger mix. If Gargoyle, I'd end up with horns like Brookly and an enlarged lower jaw like Goliath. Ears would be tall and pointy, skin color would be pale cream with a hint of red or blue. It would be nice if the geneticist involved could find away for me to supress the turning to stone whenever I wanted, but it would be fun to experiance.

Stephen>> Now I live in Utah with my folks. I attend Utah State in Logan, though I live just South in Providence. I hope to get back to Washington to visit some friends in Spokane and a few more freinds in Leavenworth near Wenatche.

**Exeunt**

Mec
Friday, February 25, 2000 03:15:27 PM
IP: usr42.mtwest.net

Hi all! :)

Josh, Paul> Welcome to the CR! A little shy, huh?

For several weeks I haven't been able to go to the comic book store, and so when I got my parents to drive me to the town next door for the first time in a very long time, the only town with a comic book store within my parents' driving radius is now... *wipes away a tear*...shut down! For the last two years I've gotten Alien comics, candy, seen the strangest things sold (such as the candy with real-life bugs in the center), and even the clerk knew me and he'd actually say, "We got a few new issues in the front, hold on". *Takes a breath* It's being replaced with a floral shop. *rolls eyes* Now how many of _those_ do we have here (six, to be exact). Now my family has to drive through several towns to go to a comic book store. *sighs* I know I shouldn't make a big deal, but it seems like a favorite toy was stolen away while I had my head turned. Well, at least the Age of Apocalypse sounds very worth the trip. :)

Shadowrider> The X-men movie is scheduled to come in theatres *very* soon. Unfortunately most of the costumes look very...distasteful...and the actors are... well... young, shall we say? We all have been tuning into the X-men stuff lately too. I know that some of the other CR dwellers can give you more info too.

Gside> Of course that was a compliment! *hugs* Thanks for the info too. :)

If I had to choose between becoming a gargoyle, mutate, cyborg, or wearing a battle suit, I think I'd choose a battle suit, those things look killer. I too would want to be a gargoyle for a while, but the whole 'turning to stone' thing is kind of disturbing. Becoming a mutate would be awesome, but I don't think my family would take that well, nor if I turned into a gargoyle or a cyborg, and if I turned into a cyborg, that would be the tops of disturbing (Man, I'm all ready afraid of needles, don't bring out the surgery laser thingie!). I think I would make sure the battlesuit was dark, so then you could sink into the shadows easily like the gargoyles do. So then I'd make it Brooklyn red. I'd want Goliath-like wings, and um, a little stinger at the end of the tail (that'd be fun to whack my enemy with! Er, um, just joking...). I'd want basically all that Shadowrider said too. That'd be so fun. :)

Warpmind> Yeah, put up some pictures of Benjamin! :) Claw kind of has a last-minute phobia around the kid, I wonder why... Don't worry though, he'll break out of it soon enough, he always does. My sister scared him the first time I brought him home, she got out all her brushes and Barbie dolls, tried to put his hair into little bows like she did to our kitties once. She tried giving him a manicure, unfortunately he'd had enough and glided back to the Labyrinth to stay the night. He came back the next night and then got to like my sister when she offered to let him look at her very expensive jewelry collection. *Evil smirk* I hope I don't have to tell you why he got to like her so much. ^_^

Marry a Millionaire> Well, all of you (almost put down y-'-all, then reconsidered) have all ready said what I was going to say. So long and bye-bye to that couple. No congrats to the new pairing.

Jenna> Congratulations and good luck for your interview tomorrow. :)

Aaron> <<I think Jesse and James from Team Rocket have a mistress/slave relationship>> Yep. Definitely.

Bye all! :)

Anne
MN, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 02:42:24 PM
IP: 209-130-164-45.nas1.apv.gblx.net

From the "Things that prove I have too much time on my hands" department: I think Jesse and James from Team Rocket have a Mistress/Slave relationship.

GB> I understand Jesse "The chibi" Ventura, (not to be confused with Chibi-Ventura, who's currently giveing Chibi-Death fits) but why would Ross Perot be in the WCWF?

Jenna><<thought alot of you when writing the Demona part.>>Well, I hope I helped. Sent you an em, good luck with your rescheduled interview.

Stephen> I might have room, if Robbie doesn't mind sharing a bed. Robbie, what say you?

Toku> Congrats on getting the laptop back. Who knows, maybe the decision not to get pissed about it influenced your karma.

Spacebabie> Thanks for the Angel info. Just wondering if Joss was going to do a Preacher injoke.

Wilek, Gside> Well, Warpmind already explained the H-word thing. However, he also may have said it three times himself, so we may all have to run now.

Warpmind>I'm not sure adding 'the unspeakable' between repetitions counts as not saying the H-word. If it doesn't, you did say it three times.

Shadowrider> Well ideally, I'd like to have the deal Demona has, to be human and gargoyle. If that wasn't an option, I'd go for some discrete cybernetics, like the eyes, and a hand for a variety of weapons.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 02:20:45 PM
IP: ppp-2.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Jannie> "good grasshopper" ??
I'm still getting mail bounced when I try to send things to Dennis. Could you do me two favors? First, have Dennis e-mail me something so I can use the respond function, and second, send me your e-mail address so that if that doesn't work I can just relay things through you.

Thanks.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 01:55:23 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Warpmind: The trick worked! :) Thanks.
Doug
Friday, February 25, 2000 11:29:06 AM
IP: pool-207-205-144-22.dlls.grid.net

Well, we ran into car trouble so we rescheduled the interview, and I have one for Monday as well-- thanks for all the well wishes.
jenna
Friday, February 25, 2000 10:46:07 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-159.hstntx.swbell.net

David> ROFLMAO I had just read Mecord's spelling of ya'll and was beginning to twitch when I then saw your post. ;)

Mecord> David is correct and is a good grasshopper. Ya'll is a southern contraction slang for you all or more correctly, all of you - therefore, the correct spelling is ya'll. You know what the plural of ya'll is? all ya'll. =) *L* (ummm, that's a joke btw)

SJ> Re: Marry a Millionaire - Bravo! You took the words right out of my mouth :) Of course the guy is a creep... why else would a millionaire have to choose a "bride" from a cheesey show, you know? *shakes head* And this woman...*growls* I got a great idea for a match for this guy (can't remember his name)Rick something, ... looks like Tonya Harding no longer has a boyfriend ;)
Thanks for the review on the movie, Pitch Black. I've been considering seeing that this weekend, but was a little hesitant. I will now try to work it into my schedule :)

Did anyone else think that the Grammy Awards attire of the women look more the Sluts of America Line Up? geesh! Jennifer Lopez... disgusting.

Jannie
Friday, February 25, 2000 08:41:08 AM
IP: 141.198.1.4

I'm baaaaaack!!

David G. & Gside:>OK,understood.Thank you for the explanation.

Wilek:><<...we could assist each other? >> Well,why not?You know,I don't like competitors,but I always welcome allies!Moreover,I see that we have at least ONE common priority about what to do after taking control of the world.TGS themes:You're right,that twisted gothic chorus and urgent percussions rythm make Timedancer one of the best themes I never heard.In the full version,anyway,the clips and effect cover the music,damping its impact,so I prefer the inst. version.About the other themes...well,Gargoyles is not bad (though surely not as good as Timedancer),while Dark Ages...well,it sounds to me identical to the animated series'theme (at least the Italian version's theme)!

Mecord:>I agree with Gside:the neutron warhead is the actual weapon that suits your needs in the best way.EMP warhead would also be useful,but I think that riots unleashed by sudden energy blackout could harm structures;then,confusion would make difficult for your troops to take control of the zone.

Anne,Gside & Mecord:>Well,I see I'm not the only one who is interested in the X-men.I've been reading their comic books since...about...eight years or so.My preferred character is Wolverine (bur lately I like Marrow too),while in the AoA...well,I liked X-calibre,Weapon-X (the alternate version of Jean Grey was cool),and Gambit&The X-ternals (I like Jubilee too),while I had no preferred character...I liked the way the authors managed to build a "similar-but-fully-different" universe,and I think that "Future tense" episode of the Gargoyles' original series owes a lot to the AoA,one of the best comic series I've ever read by now.I'm glad to see that Anne is getting interested about it:look up for the series,you'll not repent!
By the way:does anyone know anything about the X-men's motion picture (in Italy we received just a few shattered rumors)?

To everyone:>somewhere on the Net I found a kind of opinion poll.The last update was very old,so I think it's over.I'd like to re-propose it here and receive some opinions about it.
The question is:if you were granted the choices that Xanatos made to the Pack in "Upgrade",you'd choose to:
A)Become a Gargoyle (how would you look like?)
B)Become a mutant (what kind of mutant?
C)Become a cyborg,like Hyena (what exactly would you replace in your body?)
D)Wear a battlesuit,like Dingo or Xanatos (what kind of battlesuit?Which features would you like it to have?)

If anyone is interested,I'd like to know your choice,with a brief explanation of why and what.Try to be a little realistic-you can't choose a mutant that is the same of a gargoyle,but doesn't turn in stone by day;if you choose the suit,remember that a suit can't carry anything-there's not enough room for that.Me?I think I'd choose D:the battlesuit.I'd like to be a Gargoyle for a while,but I'm human,this is my nature;then,as a human,I could protect my Gargoyles friends during daytime and figth at their side by night (I'd need to sleep,you say?oh,well).I don't see the reason of becoming a mutant or a cyborg if there's another choice;moreover,I love battlesuit since I've
read Heinlein's "Starship troopers" (the book,not the movie).My way of fighting,both in videogames and IRL with Taekwon-do,is a kind of "Hit-and-Fade":a sudden,massive attack followed by a quick retreat,to force my opponent to follow me and expose himself to another attack;so my suit's features would be focused,in decreasing order of importance,on:speed,firepower and stealth,sensors are important too,while sheer physical strenght and a massive armor are not really important to me.My suit is supposed to be able to fly by reactors and to glide with retractable,hang-glider-like wings,for silent approaching;to allow this,the armor has to be as lightweight as possible (a thin composite armor,just a little stronger on chest and forearms);the suit's style is supposed to be essentially technical:something like the Marine unit of "Starcraft",but far less bulky,painted in dull black to hide in shadows,a closed helmed vith a darkened visor;for the weapons,well,a kind of massive laser MG carried by hands,with a removable hold on the right forearm to allow using it with a single hand;a kind of missile launcher over the left shoulder,with variable ammo (armor-piercing,grenades,EMP emitters,tear gas...);a collapsable titanium shield on the left forearm and a retractable 80 cm-long blade on the right forearm for hand-to-hand fighting;in the helmet,a full line of sensors (thermal scan,star-light enhancer,etc.) and a very precise targeting system to allow sniper attack.Well,I think that's enough.I hope I receive some answers.

Tolerance of Gargoyles:>I agree with Bengali enough,but I think that,if Gargoyles'd reveal themselves to the world
about a 50% of people would react with indifference,thinking "as far as I'm not concerned...",at least a 35% would react with hate and fear,maybe founding something like the Quarrymen,a 10% would try to capture the Gargoyles to study them or to take advantage of them and a mere 5% (myself included,at least I hope) would try to protect them (I'd probably finish to be killed by the racists as a "gargoyle-lover").Too pessimist?Well,I trust human beings as individuals,but I really don't trust them in large groups-humans grow more irrational as their number increases.

See later.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Friday, February 25, 2000 06:29:10 AM
IP: h213-16-231.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, period.*

Doug: Um... right, I knew there was something I forgot to mention... you see, I have a few neat cracking programs, designed to remove copy-protection from various games and programs. :) Just press enter (don't press anything else) when the passcode question appears. :)

Guandalug: Thanks. I wanted to see if they by any chance responded to any of my questions after I was disconnected. :( (Blackout.)

Bengali: Don't be so sure group 4 would be the least influential... remember, Wilek and I are working here. ;)

Paul Devine: Welcome. Please allow Robby or Simon to confiscate your sanity and store it safely for... unknown purposes in the far future.

Wilek: Oh, come on, you *know* that to summon Hastur the Unspeakable, you just have to repeat his name three times. So never say Hastur Hastur Has... um... *whew*, close one...

Gside: Dude, that sample of your lingual skills was so limitlessly BAD I can't even manage to get insulted. ;) Which is good for you. ;) And I think we should leave the creating life debate down, at least until I have my new Evolution Accelerator repaired and patented. Anton Sevarius would be proud...

Jaden: Oooh, an Anne Rice fan? Did I mention my given name is Marius? ;) Really, it is!

Well, gotta go.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, February 25, 2000 05:46:21 AM
IP: mp-216-237-103.daxnet.no

Hi all!!
D'oh!,Sorry for the double post guys but I forgot to put some important details in(Like peoples names*Smacks head*:()....


Thanks for all you well wishes regarding Fleur and myself,you guys are the greatest *big group hug*:)

SOROW:<<Wait! Xanathar...did you get my e-mail?>>Yep I got it and thank-you:),did you get my reply that I sent?

Warpmind:<<I don't think I've gotten around to this yet: Congratulations. Best of luck to the both of you (And may you never encounter redbacks on your dunny seats) for all time. :) (By the way... what's a redback? Spider? Snake? Otherwise unpleasant surprise?)>>Thanks:).A redback is a spider,It's all black with a red streak across its back(hense the name:) ),it's quite venumous but not as much as the funnelweb spider(that sucker kills)

Katara:<< Heard on the news tonight about the flooding going on there. Hope that none of you are becoming waterlogged.>>Fleur and I are both alright,the flooding is out in the rural areas last time I heard,but thank-you for your concern nontheless:).BTW I know it's kind of belated but congratulations on becoming an Aunt*Hugs*

Kaioto:I'm Glad you got your laptop back bud!:)

Green Baron:<<Much happiness to you two. Have you met IRL yet?>>We are going to meet for the first time this Sunday at the Royal Botanic Gardens in the city:)

C'yas later!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Friday, February 25, 2000 05:36:38 AM
IP: melnc01.bigpond.com

Hi all!!

Thanks for all you well wishes regarding Fleur and myself,you guys are the greatest *big group hug*:,(BTW Fleur's been having trouble with her computer today,so if any of you would like to sacrifice some AOL execs to the Net Gods I'm sure she would appreaciate it.:)

SOROW:<<Wait! Xanathar...did you get my e-mail?>>Yep I got it and thank-you:),did you get my reply that I sent?

<<I don't think I've gotten around to this yet: Congratulations. Best of luck to the both of you (And may you never encounter redbacks on your dunny seats) for all time. :) (By the way... what's a redback? Spider? Snake? Otherwise unpleasant surprise?)>>Thanks:).A redback is a spider,It's all black with a red streak across its back(hense the name:) ),it's quite venumous but not as much as the funnelweb spider(that sucker kills)

<< Heard on the news tonight about the flooding going on there. Hope that none of you are becoming waterlogged.>>Fleur and I are both alright,the flooding is out in the rural areas last time I heard,but thank-you for your concern nontheless:).BTW I know it's kind of belated but congratulations on becoming an Aunt*Hugs*

Kaioto:I'm Glad you got your laptop back bud!:)

Green Baron:<<Much happiness to you two. Have you met IRL yet?>>We are going to meet for the first time this Sunday at the Royal Botanic Gardens in the city:)

C'yas later!!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Friday, February 25, 2000 05:30:37 AM
IP: melnc01.bigpond.com

Update on nephew>> As I told everyone last week, my sister had her baby on Friday, Feb 18 at 7:55pm (local Phoenix, AZ time) They named him Eric Alexander Johnson. He was 7lbs 4ozs and 20 1/4 inches long. Baby, mom and dad are all doing well. From talking to my mother, it sounds like wedding bells may be ringing sometime in the near future. Things won't be easy, but with love, their own for each other, and that of both familes; they'll have a strong fighting chance.

Kaioto> Congrats on getting your laptop back. Just when you start to think that people are mostly just down right rotten, someone does something to restore your faith in the overall goodness of mankind. I myself am a firm believer in
"What goes around, comes around". Do someone a good turn, and it will eventually be returned to you. Do someone dirty, and someone will ultimately do dirty to you. When you drink the milk of human kindness, just remember to pass the cup along to the next person. Praise and thanks to the MBTA agent that was kind enough to return your property instead of keeping it for himself.

To our friend "down under" in Austrailia> Heard on the news tonight about the flooding going on there. Hope that none of you are becoming waterlogged.

Jenna> Congrats and good luck with the interview. *crosses her talons and says a few good luck prayers for you*

Christine> Good luck with the audio book lady. *crosses her toes and sends a telepathic thought message to the ABL..."you WILL love this story..you WILL back this project..you WILL publish/record/whatever this story and all future installments*

Xanthar & Fluer> Congratulations! It's always good to hear when 2 people manage to connect on a deeper level, weither it be friendship or love.


Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Friday, February 25, 2000 02:57:41 AM
IP: abe1c2aa.ipt.aol.com

Jenna-Good luck with your interview.

Mecord><<...a static buzz, it gives me a headache>> For me it's a real high pitch noise. Sort of like the noise a TV gives off when you turn it on, only it's so loud that if feels like a large steel beam being driven through my eardrums.

Wilek- You mean that stuff you see in the dark that looks like electricity? What you said about the mind creating its own imput seems possible or maybe it's just always there and the only time we notice it is when we have nothing else to focus on. The best way I know of to avoid seeing and hearing that stuff is to focus on using my imagination.

SJ- In the novel The Vampire Lestat he becomes a famous rock star. I won't tell you anything else because it would ruin the story. I recommend that you read the series (in order). It's great!

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 02:07:23 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Mecord - I live in the Valley, near Green Bluff. Wow! A fellow fan was nearby and I didn't know it! Where are you now?

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, February 25, 2000 02:01:27 AM
IP: m114.ieway.com

Doug> Sorry I wasn't of assistance with the decompressor.

Wilek> <<Hm...are there programs for RAR and SIT files>>: If the file formats exist, I would assume that a program has been made.
<<a My Computer window displaying my hard drive's root directory popped out of nowhere>>: My computer's windows key occaisonally feel funky and starts acting like it is being pressed down. I would guess this happened to you and you typed an "e".

Joe Boxer> <<no time for food>>: Heh, don't have that problem at Rutgers. You can always get a Fat Cat delivered, and the Grease Trucks don't start getting busy until after midnight. Couldn't help you with sleep or fun though...

Warpmind> <<Norway isn't all bad... we have a lot of nice nature>>: Wi nøt trei a høliday in Norvay this yër? See the løveli lakes The Wøndërful telephøne system. And mäni interesting furry animals. Including the majestic møøse A Møøse once bit my sister... Nø realli! She was Karving her initals øn the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Hørst Nørdfink"_ Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti ...
<<When his plan is put into motion, I get Scandinavia>>: And remember, I get cannonized as the saint of ROMZ.
<<I have no intentions of waiting a Sagan amount of generations for a sentient species to evolve>>: It all depends on how careful you are with the bases (the rest is easy: sugar, phosphate, sugar, phosphate, sugar, phosphate, sugar, phosphate, s, p, s, p, s, p, s, p, s, p, etc.)

Aaron> <<Note to self, never quote Parintachin>>: My brother had a semi decent collection of Poison Elves, but I never read much myself. (Although I do have a recollection of half of a siamese twin dying...)
<<tricking [DC] into saying the h-word three times>>: Huh? I hate it when I come in in the middle of things...

Toku Kai> <<I'm a lucky #$%@>>: Truer words were never said. (or more appropriately, truer character strings were never typed)

Warpmind> <<I wonder how many others got the joke?>>: I need to sit up a little more. :)

boadacious and Jalapena: To elaborate on what David G. said, boadacious is frequently applied to females as a rather chauvinistic complement. And Jalapena started with a Jazz singer who would say that instead of Haleluiah. Apparently Keith David knew of this, shared it with Greg who then insisted on having it in every script.

Anne> <<G-side know-it-all stuff>>: Thank you for the complement, I think... You don't use mp3s? It's not too hard. Get a player (either WinAmp or Sonique) and use it to play the files. Moderately good compression of about a meg/minute.

Mecord> AoA: I kind of like X-Calibre and it was fun seeing Blink and a powerful Iceman.
<<y’all (yes that’s proper grammar, according to my friends in Georgia at least>>: and also according to my latin teacher. Second person plural.
Weapon of mass destruction: That's easy. Neutron bomb. Kills everyone, leaves buildings, aftereffects only last for a couple days. Apparently it "is basically a hydrogen
bomb without the uranium-238 jacket which would absorb neu-
trons to increase the blast. By eliminating that jacket
the full fusion emission of neutrons is released. A one-
kiloton neutron bomb will spread a lethal dose of neutron
radiation to exposed people over a one-mile radius. It
would take a 13-kiloton fission (atom) bomb to produce a
combined lethal dose of neutron and gamma radiation over
that same distance." (source: http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa015es.html)

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, February 25, 2000 12:24:59 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

I'M STILL ALIVE!!!!!
Although I've been gone so long, I swear if you read the CR backwards it might say "SJ is dead".

Scary Star Trek Stuff: Rumor out now is that the new proposal for the fifth Star Trek show is going to be sort of "prequelish", in that it will detail the "early adventures" of the folks we know and love (or in the case of Voyager, the folks we know and feel cool indifference towards). That means we may even get to see the adventures of Lil' Jimmy Kirk. Sheesh.....I'd say Roddenberry has probably been spinning in that grave of his so much he's halfway to China by now. And you thought the Rock on Trek was bad. I have NO desire to see a pimply faced Spock suffer through the terrors of his first Vulcan pon farr (or whatever silly name they gave that funky mating ritual of theirs).

Vampire Stuff: Creepy guy Wes Bentley (he played the creepy boy next door in critically acclaimed movie "We Made This Film To Get An Oscar"...uh, aka "American Beauty") will be replacing Tom Cruise as the Vampire Lestat in the upcoming screen adaption of Queen of the Damned. Now....tell me if I'm wrong here; I haven't read the Vampire series, but the synopsis I've heard is that Lestat becomes a rock star of some sort....is this true? Please tell me it's not as silly as it really sounds.

Matrix News: Good news for most folks in here--the sequel to the Matrix is ALREADY in production. Not exactly sure if they're into filming this early, but stuff is happening.
***PLOT SPOILERS****
Rumored plot points include Trinity being trapped in a "temporal anomaly" (or something like that), with Neo having to save her. Plus, we finally see Zion, Last Human City, and those pesky Matrix robots get all pissed.
****END SPOILERS***

Brought to you by the letters T & A: For those who care....TNT is working on a TV movie/series pilot for the comic book "Witchblade". The comic, for those who don't know, is about a mystical artifact called the Witchblade, which.....well, hell, I really don't know what it's about. The comic is a piece of crap, really. It's basically 32 pages of virtually nekkid women fighting crime in outfits with less material than a box of Kleenex. Naturally, it sells like, a bazillion copies every month. Feh.

That Millionaire Show: I LOVED it. What a great show! Here we have honest to god PROOF of the timeless addage that women are gold digging creatures obsessed solely with security, and men are perverted, horny bastards who care only about sex! I revel in the fact that there were 50 women greedy enough to marry a complete stranger. I love the fact that we have a real wacko willing to marry a stranger just so he can get some. It's the worst of society, and I love watching it, cause hey, it makes me realize that ultimately I'm nowhere near as screwed up as these folks are. Did I mention that some 5 THOUSAND women already want to sign up for Millionare round 2? And I'm sure there's some dumb, sick schmuck out there willing to marry one of them.
I despise BOTH Mr. and Mrs. Rockwell. He's a dumb a-hole with a history of violent behavior towards women who wanted fame so badly he married a complete stranger on television. She was greedy enough (no matter what she says) to basically whore herself out to some loser, and since the failed nuptials, has somehow find it in herself to go on EVERY goddamned talk show in existence to tell her story. They sicken me both. Like the great Radiohead sings, "When I am king, you will be first against the wall...."

***REVIEW FOR BUFFY****
I *loved* this episode. Faith is a villain that I just adore....part of me hates her. Part of me actually likes her. I think she's a character we can sympathize with. She's "fallen" from grace, so to speak. She's lost her way. And during this episode, I kind of thought she had a couple good points. She *was* nearly killed by Buffy for a man Buffy is no longer involved with....I can see Faith's somewhat outrage over that. If I was going to be killed for something or someone, to have my would-be murderer suddenly drop that significant object/individual would be, in essence, making my life totally worthless. She wanted revenge, and it looks like she'll be getting it. I really look forward to next week's episode, to see how much trouble Faith gets into...So, a big thumbs up for tonight.
****END REVIEW***

****REVIEW FOR PITCH BLACK*****
Well, actually got to catch a movie. I chose Pitch Black, cause, frankly, you couldn't pay me to watch that dumb Bruce Willis movie, and I'd have to be near death before you would be able to drag me into that horrible Meg Ryan movie. So I went with the crowd-pleaser--action sci-fi!!!
I was very, very pleased and surprised by the movie. This film is not "big". The biggest name it has in it is Vin Diesel (unless you count Keith David, but let's be realistic--Keith may be a household name to us, but to the general American public he's just some character actor). But I greatly enjoyed the film. Some critics complained that it "had been done before". This is true, yes. Still, the film works in its execution. There is a lot of good suspense in the film, although it's really false advertising to call this film scary (I've seen hundreds of horror flicks; this was nowhere near "scary"). The plot was somewhat simplistic, but I found myself liking the characters, and cheering for them, not wanting them to die. I liked the suspense, and thought that the film had some pretty good moments to it where it shined. The special effects were pretty damn good considering this movie probably had a smaller budget than most. The monsters were a little awkward to me (as far as design goes), but the CGI was pretty fluid. The opening crash scene was fun.
The characters were what made the movie. In some ways, they were standard archetypes--the criminal, the cop, the kid, the holy man, etc. But each had their own personality, and I grew to like many of them (Poor Fry....) All of the actors did very well in their roles--ESPECIALLY Vin Diesel as Riddick. I love this guy. If I may do a little bit of predicting, I say this guy is gonna be huge in the years to come. He's talented--he was good in Saving Private Ryan, and I heard he's good in Boiler Room as well. He gave a very fine performance in this movie, giving Riddick some depth, instead of just the standard "serial killer" persona. It was good to see Cole Hauser as well (That's Wings' little boy!), and of course, such genre favorites as Claudia Black and Keith. Frye was damn cute. And Jack? Come on, didn't you ALWAYS know he was really a she?
Overall, I thought the film was very, very solid. I'd recommend it to fans of sci-fi, it's a fun and exciting way to kill a couple of hours. The cast is talented, the plot is fairly suspenseful and enjoyable, and the effects are nice. Overall, a nice film. 3 outta 4 stars, which rounds out to 7.5 outta 10 (or a big fat thumbs up ;)
****END REVIEW****

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, February 25, 2000 12:13:56 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**RP!**

[Wilek is attending to whatever he happens to be doing on the station just at the moment, when he recieves a call from the Administrator: "Consultant Nereus, report to my office immediately." Wilek: "Sounds important..." He makes his way to the assimilated chamber from which the Borg queen oversees the Avatar's computer systems, whereupon her head is lowered from her overhead chamber and into her mechanical body. Admin: "This communique was just recieved from Earth." The message that Rob Reiner sent to Rev. Attila replays on the dozen or so computer screens behind the Administrator's desk. Wilek: "Saul Ste. Marie? Hm...that's a little close to my hometown for my liking...Can this guy seriously harm the Avatar?" Admin: "We know not; the file was transmitted from a communications satellite that self-destructed before we could trace its path. We are currently investigating this person; any significant findings will be reported to you." Wilek: "Good...keep the rest of the command staff on alert, in case this psycho does come here."]

**PAUSE!**

Josh> Welcome! Surrender your sanity, etc... <<does anyone know when the new Gargoyles season is going to begin? Or even IF a new season will begin...? If so, when?>> There'll be a new season, but I'm not sure when. <shrug>

Jaden> <<Some nights I'll just be thinking so hard that I'll hear a ringing in my ears and if I stop to concentrate on it, the ringing grow louder and louder till I have to mentally block it out before it drives me insane.>> That happens to me too. I think it has something to do with the brain's lack of ability to cope with a complete lack of input to any of the senses, so it has to provide its own. (You know how you start to see things if you spend long enough in pitch blackness? This is the aural equivalent.)

Aaron> <<I guess showing him that photo is easier then tricking him into saying the h-word three times, eh?>> <blink> Is...this in some later version of Call Of Cthulhu?

Green Baron> <<I hoep you get your laptop back soon. I'm gald it isn't eating away at you.>> That was Kaioto (and apparently the problem's been solved). :)

Kai> Speaking of which, I'm *very* glad you got that back. ^_^

Christine> <<And of course, remarks like that earn a fellow _beaucoup_ brownie points! ; )>> And the best part is, it has the added benefit of being true. ;D

Shadowrider> <<I hope when you'll get control of the world,one of the first thing you'll do is to take Gargoyles back on TV (at least 2 hours a day,broadcasted all around the world,all new episodes of course).>> That, in fact, is among the first items on my to-do list. ^_^ I'll probably have the original two seasons remade in CGI format (by Pixar, of course), then set about having Greg write new eps...<<I think you'll better hurry,anyway...you see,I also have a little project about this little world...>> Indeed? Perhaps we could assist each other? :) <<I double-clicked one of them and....Geez!I couldn' believe that!That music shocked me!I find it is very well-suited to the series,communicating a weird sense of mistery and anguish.>> That was my exact reaction when I first heard it; it's been my favorite theme ever since. (Gargoyles' music was nice, but it could have used more twisted gothic choral work like the TD theme.) As for preferring the instrumental version, I agree; for some reason, the sound clips in the full version kind of get in the way...

David G> <<In the original Gargoyles show it was used as an expression of amazement awe, or confusion.>> I wonder if, had the show continued long enough, it would have replaced 'What sorcery is this?!'? :P

Jenna> <<WWWWWWOooooooooHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Guess who has an interview tomorrow!!! Me!!! Oh, keep your talons crossed for me!!!!>> Congratulations (and good luck)! ^_^

Mecord> <<I’m looking for a weapon that has long range (ICBM) capability, destructive capability comparable to an A-bomb (but non nuclear, maybe biological), with possible lingering effects (but not as bad as radiation). It needs to be able to have wide radius destruction, keep people off the land, but without rendering the land unusable, so that after it has done it’s job, the land can be reclaimed by the conquerors who know how to avoid the lingering aftereffects. Reason being I am writing a story that requires such weapons, I can always invent something on my own, but I thought I’d ask some of the worlds hopeful conquerors first.>> Psion shockwave warhead. Does to nervous systems what an electromagnetic pulse does to machines. The few survivors would be brain dead for the rest of their lives. Pleasant little weapon, that.

**RESUME RP!**

[Down the corridors of the Dalek sector of the station strolls a human in an Avatar uniform, which is an odd sight in the Dalek sector. That human happens to be Agent Rho, and he happens to look rather concerned. He stops a Dalek that's trundling down the corridor, going about some task, and asks of it, "Mind if I see your adminstrator?" The Dalek sits there unmoving for a moment, requesting orders from the central command, then answers, "THE DALEK PRIME IS OTHERWISE ENGAGED." Rho: "This is of the utmost importance. Whatever he's doing, it can wait." Dalek: "THE PRIME'S MATTERS ARE NO CONCERN OF YOURS." Rho: "As commander of this station and the Prime's direct superior, his matters are *every* concern of mine. I need to see him right away, and that is an order. Am I clear?" The Dalek awaits new orders for a moment before responding, "A UNIT WILL BE ALONG SHORTLY TO ESCORT YOU TO THE PRIME'S CHAMBERS," before returning to whatever it was doing.]

**END RP!**

Wilek Nereus
Friday, February 25, 2000 12:12:41 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Small correction to the earlier plug of my planned Reunion fanfic chat participation tomorrow night- It will take place from 8:00 pm to 12:OO am, not 7-12 as previously thought. :( Oh well, fans of my work as well as that of Christine, Spike, and others are still encouraged to come talk to us! :)

Okay, thanks for bearing that. Now to get back to dividing my time between writing Elysium and continuing the search for the KoX code wheel (no luck finding it yet, so much darn clutter in this apartment :). Later.

Doug
Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:27:18 PM
IP: pool-209-138-203-31-dlls.grid.net

Mecord> How about an Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) weapon? The theory behind them is that if you explode a nuclear bomb high up in the atmosphere, you can disrupt all electrical equipment beneth the zone of expolosion. The result is large scale black outs, not just things tied to electrical systems, but battery powered items as well.
One seriously nasty weapon if you think about it, sending your opponent litterally into the dark ages :)Who needs weapons of mass detruction when weapons of mass chaos (nothing like a city during a power outage to incite rioting)

One good example is Goldeneye that was the secret weapon used by Janus to cover his computerized heist of the Bank of England.
Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:54:47 PM
IP: uv1cisco02-39.ultravision.net


Mecord: actual method!: try an engineered bacterial agent designed to halt the photosynthetic powers of plants. they'll die out, the food chain will partily collapse, and you'll be rid of the species that caused such a problem.

{oh wait, that's what we/i plan to do with Earth}.

those curious can email me for further details.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:21:49 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Mecord> Ya'll, not y'all. Then again, I'm a Texan not a Georgian. I don't really care, but when you pronounce it wrong you drive Jannie crazy. :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 09:57:48 PM
IP: dll2a020-0111.splitrock.net

**Fireworks flare over everyone’s head, in the midst Mecord appears laughing jubilantly.**

One mid-term down! Three to go. No more Frankenstein! (Hope you survive The Scarlet Letter JOE)

Hi Paul, fair warning, stick around and your sanity gets confiscated (We don’t get it back either). It’s our way of making the world a better place. :)

Jaden>> <<<Ever think so long and so hard in quiet solitude that your ears hurt from the noise?>> Actually yes. Some nights I'll just be thinking so hard that I'll hear a ringing in my ears and if I stop to concentrate on it, the ringing grow louder and louder till I have to mentally block it out before it drives me insane. > Whew, glad I’m not the only one. For me it’s more like a static buzz, it gives me a headache. Fortunately I don’t have to worry about it driving me insane, I already live there. :)

Shadowrider and Anne>> Age of Apocalypse (AoA), excellent comics, my favorites of the marvel universe. My favorite is the Gambit and the X-ternals edition of AoA. Some of my favorite X-men are there; Gambit and Jubilee mainly.

Question for all y’all (yes that’s proper grammar, according to my friends in Georgia at least). I’m looking for a weapon that has long range (ICBM) capability, destructive capability comparable to an A-bomb (but non nuclear, maybe biological), with possible lingering effects (but not as bad as radiation). It needs to be able to have wide radius destruction, keep people off the land, but without rendering the land unusable, so that after it has done it’s job, the land can be reclaimed by the conquerors who know how to avoid the lingering aftereffects. Reason being I am writing a story that requires such weapons, I can always invent something on my own, but I thought I’d ask some of the worlds hopeful conquerors first. Know of anything like what I describe? If not, be imaginative. :)

Stephen>> Just out of curiosity, where in Spokane do you live? For about five months last year I lived on the South Hill, 29th if I remember right.

Well, that's all for now, bye!

**With another round of fireworks Mecord disappears.**

Mecord
Thursday, February 24, 2000 09:36:11 PM
IP: usr21.mtwest.net

Wait! Xanathar...did you get my e-mail?
SOROW
Thursday, February 24, 2000 09:31:35 PM
IP: dll2a020-0804.splitrock.net

Not much to post tonight. Just letting you all know I'm still breathing.


SOROW
Thursday, February 24, 2000 09:29:30 PM
IP: dll2a020-0804.splitrock.net

WWWWWWOooooooooHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Guess who has an interview tomorrow!!! Me!!! Oh, keep your talons crossed for me!!!!

Aaron- shot you an em,bro

Jannie- that is so cool girl!!

Kioto- glad for you!! That's awesome!!!

Laters!!

jenna
Thursday, February 24, 2000 08:55:43 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-83-241.hstntx.swbell.net

hello
Paul Devigne - [funky_paul12@hotmail.com]
Winnipeg, Canada, Manitoba
Thursday, February 24, 2000 08:17:38 PM
IP: proxy1.wpnr1.mb.wave.home.com

Shadowrider> a Jalapeno is a very hot pepper used in a lot of Mexican cooking. I personally don't eat them, but I know that it's very painful to reach into a bowl full of them when you have a papercut on your hand. Also, I can't spell Jalapeno correctly in the Comment Room since I can't put the "~" symbol over the leter N. That makes a big difference in pronouncation in Spanish. I'm not sure about Itallian.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 07:37:49 PM
IP: dll2a020-0018.splitrock.net

Hi all! :)

Shadowrider> Thanks for the info, I've seen X-men a couple of times on the television and I tried to get committed to the show several times, but during that time my parents had signed me up for karate lessons and they were in the morning, meaning I had to miss the cartoons the station aired. I've never read any books by X-Men though; that sounds interesting and intrigueing. :) I'll definitely look up the Apocalypse series, sounds cool. :) Just an interesting tidbit, my dad was born in Italy (I can't think of which city though, I have a bad memory when it comes to global maps and such). :)

There's a new movie coming out, by the title of "Mission to Mars". What do you people think? Does it look like trash, or interesting, or a Supernova wannabe? I'm kinda interested, yet I'm saving up on seeing Pitch Black. Hopefully I can drag my mom to the theatres soon (most of my friends absolutely HATE scary movies, with exceptions such as the slasher fics, and since I'm kind of a wuss when it comes to watching a never-before-seen scary movie in a dark theatre with people surrounding me that I don't know, it kind of ruins everything, so I can just persuade my mom to go with doing a lotta extra chores).

Robby, when do you think you could get the Realaudio thingie up? I can't listen to any of the themes and I'm hardly experienced at this G-side know-it-all stuff. :p So, sooooooooo... when are you gonna put it up? Pretty pleeeeeeeasee soooooon?

Well, I'll be back soon but right now I've got to study school and such. Bye all. :)

Anne
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:56:49 PM
IP: 209-130-164-66.nas1.apv.gblx.net

Quick catch-up post...

Just to tell everyone why I havnt been posting, my computer has been having problems and wouldnt work properly, I got it to work long enough to post an entry for the worlds worst gargoyles fic under 1000 words {I briefly thought about posting one of my current fics at the archives but even they werent that bad}, I took it over to a computer repair shop where they charged me a horribly ridiculous price to tell me that all the computer had was a software glitch and that all I had to do was uninstall my scrabble game. But worst of all I missed the reunions pros chat, I wanted to ask some Qs there. Stupid, stupid, stupid computer, stupid, stupid, stupid scrabble game. Oh well, theres nothing I can do about it now.

Green Baron>I dont really use instant messenging, I prefer to use e-mail, its easier for me, to email me use the e-mail address delphu@netscape.net.

Tolerance of Gargoyles>I doubt that if such beings were to appear today that they would be accepted by many. There would be four main groups of people, {1} the majority, they would hate or fear them and attempt to get the government to destroy them. {2} the scientific community, they wouldnt regard the gargoyles as a threat, they would want to capture and study them. {3} the folks that would want to make a profit out of the whole thing, they would be people that would try to use the gargoyles as a way to make a name for themselves and such. {4} the smallest group, the folks that didnt want the gargoyles to be destroyed, they would try with all their might to save the gargoyles but there would be too few of them to do much. As for them appearing in any other time in history, the respose would be fairly similar, depending on when they appeared, if they were to have resurfaced in the middle ages they would have been regarded as witchs or demons and been smashed or burned at the stake.

Also, to anyone who posted a response to me last week, the sight wont let me see last weeks posts so please repost all replys to my posts.

Bye!

Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:39:10 PM
IP: spider-ti052.proxy.aol.com

David G.:>Thank you so much for the explanation.Well,I wondered that "bodacious" was to mean something like that,but I wanted a confirmation;by the way,what is Jalapeno pepper?Now,I'm curious to review some of the episodes I recorded to find out how these words were translated in Italian (I'm not really curious-Italian translators seem to have a particular taste in twisting meanings,but it's a good excuse to see my preferred heroes in animation once more).Anyway,Thank you again!:)

Wilek:><<...listening to the MP3 of the theme over and over...>>...after reading that I came curious...I haven't still downloaded any of the themes...so I downloaded Timedancer's themes (both normal and instrumental) in MP3...I double-clicked one of them and....Geez!I couldn' believe that!That music shocked me!I find it is very well-suited to the series,communicating a weird sense of mistery and anguish.I've been listening both the versions again and again for a whole hour (I prefer the instrumental version) and you're right:listening it too much could seriously harm one's mind-I don't matter,I like it too much (I'm listening it even now).Well,I think I'm going to download the other themes too...I'm VERY curious now.

Goodbye everybody,I've got to go.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:30:13 PM
IP: h213-20-147.mi2.albacom.net

Warpmind> Yes, I tried to log the chat... or at least nearly all of it, skipped a few things (mainly repetitions and off-topic comments, as well as a few moderator-comments to the audience that were of no importance for further reading). I know there's at least one other chatlog, but try this for a start.

May the winds be with you!

Guandalug - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
GermanyThursday, February 24, 2000 06:17:12 PM
IP: dial-142086.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

Shadowrider> Bodacious means, roughly, really cool or really good. I used to know the derivation, but I can't remember it right now.

Jalapena, I think, refers to the Jalapeno pepper. In the original Gargoyles show it was used as an expression of amazement awe, or confusion.

I don't think it really means anything particular. According to something I read in the Ask Greg page, Keith David used to say it and the writing staff put it in the show as kind of an inside joke.

It's hard to translate words you can't define exactly into a language you don't speek, but I hope that's useful.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 05:46:01 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Is followed by Deliah-chan and Squall-Kun. The two chibis sit on the floor with construction paper,scissors,glue,markers,glitter and gold stars
That'll keep them busy for a while.
YAY! so many people are comin to Orlando...Prepare to be hugged!
Aaron>>>Angel's name is Liam
I'm wondering if I should bring some of my SMS tapes over for you moonies out there.
NOW THIS IS Wierd. Last night I dreamt there was a poisonous snake near my house so I moved my cat indroors. Doin so got me poisoned and while on the way I dreamet I felt my body getting all numb and tingely and weak. Today after I left the house I saw a Black Racer near the bushes that we kept the cat away from. Not to keep her safe but to keep the snake safe. Racers are non poisonous mousers.
Is that strange or what?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Thursday, February 24, 2000 05:26:46 PM
IP: user-37kaota.dialup.mindspring.com

Warpmind: It was no bother? Oh, okay, that's good. :) Thanks again, and hope I'm able to enjoy the game sometime soon. I'd be doing it now, but I forgot it needs a code wheel to get past the copy protection. (If it isn't one thing...<sigh>.) I know the one for my old copy of KoX has got to be around here somewhere, I guess I'll try to dig it up. Hope I find it.

Later all.

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 05:10:25 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-24.dlls.grid.net

*Peeks in briefly.*

Fleur, Xanathar, I don't think I've gotten around to this yet: Congratulations. Best of luck to the both of you (And may you never encounter redbacks on your dunny seats) for all time. :) (By the way... what's a redback? Spider? Snake? Otherwise unpleasant surprise?)

Toku Kaioto: You, my friend, are one lucky S.O.B. Ever considered the possibility that your thoughtful demeanor may have earned you some points with the Bigwig upstairs? ;)

Anne: With a bit of luck, I'll get to post some baby pics of him soon. :) And by the way - I wonder how many others got the joke? ;)

Doug: No bother at all. Just using available ISDN time anyway. Face it, just checking my e-mail addy doesn't take up all the bandwidth, and I was checking out the current PlanetQuake Poll as well. :)

Christine: *Crosses fingers* Gee, you think you may be in luck where Black Roses is concerned?

Shadowrider: Well, Wilek might be persuaded to let you get a chunk of the control in Southern Europe... you really have to ask him. ;) And when I'm in charge of Scandinavia, the SECOND thing I do is to get Gargoyles on. First, I'll cut taxes to a reasonable level. :)

Well, bye-bye now. Gotta go.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, February 24, 2000 05:03:19 PM
IP: mp-217-217-151.daxnet.no

Greetings to everyone around.Thanks to Green Baron for welcoming me.Did you mean to say "buongiorno"?Or was you just quoting from Timedancer's "Survival"?(I just finished reading it-not bad,really not bad.So Sata is pregnant,huh?I have a strange feeling-maybe they're not dancing just in three...)

Wilek & Warpmind:>OK,I understood.I hope when you'll get control of the world,one of the first thing you'll do is to take Gargoyles back on TV (at least 2 hours a day,broadcasted all around the world,all new episodes of course).I think you'll better hurry,anyway...you see,I also have a little project about this little world...(no worry Warpmind,If I result winner,you get Scandinavia anyway):).Wilek is right:in Italy Goliath Cronicles did never arrive (I didn' know it even to exist).I've read a few comments and I'm wondering if these episodes were really so bad as almost everyone say...if so,we didn't loose very much.

Anne:>I also consider TGS an important part of the Gargoyles universe:I find there the same intriguing plots and realistic characters that made me love the animated series (as I've seen it the first time,I could barely believe it was Disney's).You don't know Age of Apocalypse?Well,I'll try to explain.There's a group of comic books super-heroes called the X-Men (maybe you know them perfectly,but if not I'm better to explain);they are mutants,all of them,it means their genes gave them powers and attributes that other men have not (some of them can fly or read minds or shoot energy rays from eyes or so on),that's why so-called "normal" people hate and fear them (reminds something?),forcing them in clandestinity.However,the X-men keep on fighting to protect a world who hates them,following the dream of their menthor,Professor Charles Xavier,the most powerful telephatic in the world.Xavier's dream is the one of a world where humans and mutants can live in peace and mutual trust.Age of Apocalypse was an X-men's saga,issued in the summer of 1995.In the first issue,Legion,Xavier's crazy son (himself a mutant) travelled back in time and accidentally killed his own father as he was a young.Suddenly,the reader was taken back in our days,to find a fully different world:because of Xavier's death,in fact,the evil Apocalypse (one of the X-men greatest foes,an immortal being convinced that "only the strongest ones deserve survival") took control of the U.S.A. and unleashed a third world war fought with large use of nuclear weapons,in order to operate an "innatural selection" of the winning genetic traits.So we found ourselves taken in a nightmarish,half-destroyed world,in which a few people,blurred shadows of the heroes we used to admire,still fight in order to harm the mighty Apocalypse-or,if not,to survive another day.Telling you how the story deploys would be too long,Anne,what I wrote is just a quick and incomplete synopsis.If you are interested,I don't think it is difficult to find the issues of the X-men containing the saga (it's easy enough in Italy,in U.S.A. it is supposed to be even easier).

To everyone:>while reading TGS novels,I met two words I wasn't able to understand;I seeked them on three dictionaries but I did'nt find them.I'll be grateful to anyone able to explain their meaning.The words are "bodacious" and "Jalapena".Please someone help me,I'm going crazy trying to figure out what they mean!!8P.

Goodbye everyone.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Thursday, February 24, 2000 04:58:21 PM
IP: h213-20-156.mi2.albacom.net

Wilek > And of course, remarks like that <<"Glad to hear it; I've never understood why thinnish females are commonly considered more attractive than others...I've always rather liked the largish ones (either 'well-padded' or just generally large)... :)>> earn a fellow _beaucoup_ brownie points! ; )

Stephen > that's great news on the apartment, and I hope you do get to the Gathering!

Jannie > and more great news that Denis will be joining the fun in Orlando!

Book update > well, I mailed off the synopsis and first 3 chaps to the audio book lady today ... fingers crossed for Black Roses yet again! No agent news yet, though ...

Pro Chat > Okay, well, maybe Greg says he's not _scared_ of me, but at least I have the power to crack him up! ; ) Great job, Christi and Leva!!!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com ]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 03:58:03 PM
IP: 02-086.009.popsite.net

Warpmind: Thank you very much, I think it worked out okay this time. :) Sorry about the bother.

More later.

Doug
Thursday, February 24, 2000 03:51:55 PM
IP: pool-209-138-61-161.dlls.grid.net

*Comes in looking happy, followed by a Sprite-chugging chibi-Claw*

Hi everyone! :)

Shadowrider> Yeah, I agree that Upgrade was one of the better episodes. I've never heard of "Age of Apocalypse", what's it about? I also agree a lot about what you put in about the TGS & Timedancer, they really were moving, that's why I consider TGS a huge part to the Gargoyles universe. :)

Jenna> Now don't overwork yourself! *L* I think I like diary/journal/documentary-written fanfics from a character's view because we get a lot of insight and soul of the person. I mean, you can do that without being the narrator, but to actually have the main character being the narrator makes a larger impact, IMO. That's why in my future fics, when the youth of the clan are beyond adolescense, fragmented bits and pieces of the story is pasted together through Demi's diary (Demi is a character in my fanfic, laboratory grown offspring to a very main character). I don't know if anybody read the teaser bit I put up several months ago, or if anyone remembers, but I'm kinda happy to say that it's been scrapped for a better-written entry, more focused and clearer. Anyway, so we shall read your next fic in a few weeks from now? Can hardly wait. :)

Joe & SOROW> Congrats on winning! ^_^

Warpmind> For some reason I got that joke a microsecond after I read it. Strange for me. *looks over to chibi-Claw, who is trying to tickle Benjamin but keeps getting shocked by the cutie* Ah, isn't that sweeeeeeet? *Fur sizzles before Claw goes flying out the roof* Er...sorry...um, about that... And, ah, congratulations on Benjamin, he's so adorable! :)

Green Baron> Glad Attila's enjoying the catnip. I tried to get Claw to play with it, but all he did was give me a dirty look. *Claw shuffles into the room, hearing the last two words, and gives yet another dirty look* Oopsie...

Kaioto> Yes indeed, you ARE a lucky #$%@! That was really nice of that guy! If only we had more kind people like that. *Sighs wistfully*

*Tosses another Sprite to Claw* Sorry man, didn't mean to be so tough on ya. *Claw shrugs before evilly smiling* Oh no. You didn't. Did you? *Claw shrugs again* Ohhhhh nooooo... Uh, I'd better get home now. Claw has a very apt tendecy to pickpocket before storing the money in MY drawers. And today's laundry day...mom's turn...gotta get home! *hauls hiney with Claw smugly watching. ZAP! Benjamin got him again....*

Bye all! :)

Anne
MN, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 02:57:02 PM
IP: 209-130-164-73.nas1.apv.gblx.net

My father has my laptop. I'm picking it up Friday night.

*grins like an idiot*

Yes … I'm a lucky #$%@ … yes … that too … I've heard it all this week.

Wow, how fortunate. Get this:

10:20 PM last Friday night, a Mass Bay Transit Authority counting-room clerk is on his way home and passes through the same train station I'd passed about 5-10 minutes earlier. He spies something out of the ordinary before he leaves …a carrying case like those used to carry a laptop computer, just lying unattended next to a bench on his train platform. The only person nearby is a pan-handler, and he's has just spied the same object. The pan-handler takes tentative steps towards it … begins to poke through and examine it, then picks it up to make off with it.

Shaking his head and sighing, this off-duty MBTA clerk goes over and retrieves the lost baggage, realizing that if he doesn't take responsibility, it will never get back to its owner - it is just too tempting. So he goes out of his way and gets this computer and takes it home on the long weekend, and brings it back into work on Tuesday, averting a theft. He finds out to whom it belongs and calls my home. 2PM on Wednesday, this clerk meets my father at the Quincy Adams train-station and gives it to him.

And now I'm getting my scholastic lifeline back (as well as my Internet connection).

All because one man decided he wasn't going to be just another face in a crowd, walking with his eyes on his feet, oblivious to those around him. I've been saved all kinds of problems on account of one guy who decides to treat a perfect stranger with the dignity, respect, and compassion that he himself would like to be treated with and prevent a theft. My @$$ was pulled out of the fire by the amazingly complex, good-natured altruism that only a human being of all animals can conceive of and execute.

I would hope that in a similar situation, I could act with the same amount of consideration, honor, and responsibility as my benefactor.

Most people would've ignored the problem.
A few would've exploited the problem.
Thank God for the rare breed of human that solve problems instead.

I hope I will ever be mindful of this mercy that someone bestowed on me … and I hope I honor it by repaying that act of decency to others I encounter for the rest of my life.

Certainly, this man's actions have not only helped fix a huge problem in my life, but they have shown me the realities of how a single act of kindness has the potential to have exponential impact on the life of another person, and the world we live in. This guy's given me another reminder to hang in there when it is so tempting to tell the rest of the world to go hang and serve only my own interests.

Sometimes, drinking the milk of human kindness is the best way to remember how precious it is.

I'm sorry if that sounded a little sappy, but this experience really moved me. I mean, more than just being delighted to have my stuff back, I really found it rewarding to see someone still living up to a set of values we often feel has passed out of our self-absorbed society. It meant a lot to me.

Thanks to everyone's well wishes and prayers. Things will be back to normal Friday.

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 01:51:10 PM
IP: 141.133.117.62

Greetings all...

Just to pass on some news: First off, Andrea and I just found out that the waiting list for a new apartment we've been looking at isn't nessesary anymore. The manager told us that the one we had looked at just became avalible, so we'll be moving within month or so into a new place! :) It's so much better than the one we have now; washer/dryer in the unit, A/C, and a fireplace! :)

Also, I just found out that there is a chance - A SLIM ONE - that I might be able to attend the Gathering in Orlando. So, I'm asking now if anyone is going that has space left for a roomie, please contact me ASAP... I'm going on the assumption that there won't be enough rooms left by the time I have money to get the room.

Well, that's all I have to say for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 01:48:22 PM
IP: m156.ieway.com

Hi all, I know its been awhile, RL stuff, anyway I miss visiting in here

David G>> if your lurking i sent the edits check your email

Xanathar and Fleur, wow, congrats to you both

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:24:34 PM
IP: twin57an.magiclink.com

Aaron- <Verrry interesting> Thanks- actually to be honest, I thought alot of you when writing the Demona part.

I wrote that thing in under a week- because I now proved to my self I can do it- I'm going to try to make it a resolutuion to have a ep of Misbegotten Son Saga and Mars, 2158 out each month- it's a tall order, but now that I proved to myself I can do- I want to give my self no excuse and get my arse in gear and DO IT!!!! ^_^

jenna
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:05:32 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-83-92.hstntx.swbell.net

RP WARNING!!!
**After a rest, Attila starts checking his e-mail and discovers some interetsing mail.
"Well, OJ payed me back. That's good. It's in my account in Litchenstein. I now have a list of all of Ted Turner's spies in my network and an alliance with Marshall Applewhite. Girls, this should be fun."
"But what about the Hollywood Ten," asks Angelica.
Over the screens on the Avatar appears Rob Reiner with an eyepatch over his left eye. "We know where you are, Attila. You have three days to battle us in Saul Ste Marie, Michigan or we will bring the battle to the Avatar and endanger everyone on board. This is a recording!!"**
END RP for NOW!!

Mara> Something tells me the 60s would be the time Gargoyles would be most and least tolerated, sinc eit was a time fo acceptance and all thta hippie stuff, as well as paranoia aboutthem due to the drug-induced state of many of the hippies and soem distaste for teh traditional and conservative views held by Gragoyels and tehiru fondness for tradition.

Welcome, Shadowrider. Bonjourno :)

Shauntell> ::tacklehugs:: I haven't seen you in a long time.

Katara> Congratulations on being an aunt. I agree 18s a bit young, but in my family, the avergae generation is 28 years.

Janine> I look forward to seeing you both. Hopefully I'll be the guy with XenaTrek and Kenna around my arms :)

XenaTrek> ::long passionate kisses::

Todd> That should change the general perception on Cthuhullu for many.

Archwolf> I doubt I'd be so bold, but I admire what you did. Personally I'd go on the Catholic League's webpage and reprot that as an incident fo anti-Catholic bias, though that was probably a while ago. $BTW, you may like Brigitte. She's the Irish Catholci schoolgirl scout$

Wilek> I hoep you get your laptop back soon. I'm gald it isn't eating away at you.

Fleur and Xanthar> Much happiness to you two. Have you met IRL yet?

Welcome to Trinkulus and Josh> Stay around a while, now :)

Blue Caeru> Hopefully, we'll see you there.

Anne> Attila is snorting the catnip and breakdancing to BeeGees music as we speak :) WB!!

SOROW> Sounds like quite a concert.

Robby> Yep, I do enjoy flirting with the girls here :)

Gside> Well, I can't help you IRL, but I do have five Catholic schoolgirls in the RPs if you're interested :)

Aaron> WCWF? chibi-Jesse Ventura and Ross Perot who is already a chibi :)


Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:03:07 AM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Aaron wanders in, and waits patiently for DC to pull himself back together from Wilek's last nastiness. Then he takes a metal folding chair out from under his coat and whacks DC over the head with it. Like five or six times.

I'm not annoyed enough to kill you, because I got some important things done while I was locked out of here. Namely....

Sent off my con registration, and the check for my ticket, but more importantly...

Jenna, Robbie> I got a room! We are one step closer to G2K!

Saw Pitch Black last night. Was pleasantly surprised. While the premise is a bit formulaic, the execution is quite good. And Vin Diesel, the killer Reggick, is tres cool.

Preacher fans> The Preacher crew has written twelve issues of The Punisher for Marvel, and the first one is quite good. Be on the lookout.

Female garg variation, or lack thereof> Well, the series was animated by mostly japanese studios, so we should be grateful they didn't all have huge eyes, no nose, and toothpick legs. ;)

Xanathar/Fleur> (RHPS photographer voice) Congratulations!

Jenna>Read your fic. Veeeery interesting.

Angel's name> It wasn't by any chance Prosinius, was it?

Gside> Well bro, I'd offer you a woman, but I just crushed my last one. (Gets glares from nearly everyone) Note to self, never quote Parintachin.

Wilek> Ouch. Nice DC death. I guess showing him that photo is easier then tricking him into saying the h-word three times, eh?

Mara> Hope this doesn't step on anything you did before the room was lost, but it's just the announcers talking anyway, so anything could be happening while they talk.

************This post in inriched with 100% chibi-goodness************

"Welcome back to the World Chibi Wrestling Federation's Brawl for it All. I'm Wesson, and this's my excellent cohost, and bro, Smith. We're here-"

"Because Marv Albert and Kevin Harlan weren't available." Smith gets thumped.

"We're here to battle for the WCWF championship belt and...(consults notes) the love and affections of Hyena? Now there's an incentive to fight."

Death and Xellos glare at them. "Hey, no editorializing!"

"Well Wes, if our competitors were sane, they wouldn't be here. We've got a great matchup for you today folks. First up, (Switches to whiney Grampa Simpson voice) Death, (switches back) a clone of our old buddy Brook. He's a loyal servant of the Wicked B!tch of the West, Demona, and-" A laser bolt punches a hole through Smith's notes. Death retracts the cannon into his arm and says "I warned you once." Wesson takes over.

"His hobbies include depressive music, being a killjoy, and hunting Thailog Shock Troops for fun and profit." Out in the front row, the other three Horsemen, wearing middle-finger puffy hands and holding up a sign reading "Death sux. Go Xellos", smirk.

"Our other contestant... Yikes!"

***************End chibi-drama for now*******************

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:59:31 AM
IP: ppp-112.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Doug: Okay. Things are slow here right now, so I guess I can just as well fix ya up as do anything productive. ;) (Anything to escape from housework, yaknowwhatImean?)

Try the newly added file in, oh, ten minutes, if all goes well. The format of the newly-added file should be simple enough to work out. ;)

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:29:58 AM
IP: mp-217-237-18.daxnet.no

Warpmind: <My sincere apologies! I am so used to using the ARJ compression format (which, in fact, is far superior to ZIP) that I forget not everyone else has it. Try searching for ARJ on Altavista, or something. The program is a complete compression/decompression tool in one and can be used as a tool under WinZIP. :|>
Sorry, Warprmind, I apparently tried that and found the .arj company website but all they have available for download are programs that finish automatically when they pop up without me even getting to unpack the Xentar file. :( When I try to use Winzip on it, the program gives me a "Bad header" message and I can't find any options that allow one to use tools. Not even in the Help menu. :( Thanks for the game anyway, it looks like I won't be able to use it. If you can compress it again in another format that has its extraction programs easier to understand and more widely distributed (like .zip) and then set up another download, I'd appreciate it. But of course, you don't have to if you have other stuff to do with your time. <sigh>

Doug
Thursday, February 24, 2000 09:57:56 AM
IP: pool-209-138-203-39-dlls.grid.net

*Warpmind enters, circled by his chibis, Talon, Maggie and Benjamin.*
Hiya. Did anyone log the entire "Meet the Pros" chat?

Anne: Yup, Maggie gave birth to this adorable little male mutate a few weeks back. For some reason they called him Benjamin. I just hope he doesn't turn out to be left-handed... ;)

Kitania: My sincere apologies! I am so used to using the ARJ compression format (which, in fact, is far superior to ZIP) that I forget not everyone else it. Try searching for ARJ on Altavista, or something. The program is a complete compression/decompression tool in one, and can be used as a tool under WinZIP. :|

Shadowrider: Well, Norway isn't all bad... we have a lot of nice nature. But frankly, the entertainment options suck, and, well, I'd probably be happier in the US, where tobacco and alcohol at least have less than 85% tax... :( I kid you not. As for the comment about Wilek... he's a blue garg (part of the time), and he's working on a plot for worldwide domination. When his plan is put into motion, I get Scandinavia. :)

Ah, I guess Spike just answered my logging question...

Gside: Okay, allow me to emphasize what I meant about creating new life: I have no intentions of waiting a Sagan amount of generations for a sentient species to evolve. I meant creating an intelligent species, or maybe a cute-ish pet, from scratch, with the flick of a wrist. Trust me, you DON'T want to wait until you have humaniods evolved from the basic DNA strands...

Well, I gotta run. Bye.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, February 24, 2000 08:45:19 AM
IP: mp-217-206-253.daxnet.no

JOSH - We're working on it, we're working on it! The big problem is that a lot of our best Breakdowns people resigned after Season Two was finished, and most of us who are left have so many RL pressures - not to mention a lot of computers breaking down - that Breakdowns have been extremely slow this season. We're seeing what we can do in getting Breakdowns for the main cycle for Season Three finished and hope to have them completed soon and start issuing the stories for the writers. But most of us are just too snowed under with everything to be able to proceed very quickly with TGS. Have patience. Remember, we're doing this in our spare time, and still have to go to school or to work.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, February 24, 2000 07:12:43 AM
IP: 216.87.46.129.dialup-stl.primary.net

OOOPS! sorry.
JOE BOXER
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:51:50 AM
IP: spider-tn012.proxy.aol.com

HEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! Working on project!.....5:45 in the morning........want to kill myself.......no time for sleep......no time for food......no time for fun.....should have listened to SOROW!!! GOOOOOOOOOOODBYEEE WOOOOOOOOOORRRRRLLDDD!!!! (Joe cries pathetically as he has to do yet another critical analysis of a passage from THE SCARLET LETTER)
JOE BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:50:34 AM
IP: spider-tn012.proxy.aol.com

HEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! Working on project!.....5:45 in the morning........want to kill myself.......no time for sleep......no time for food......no time for fun.....should have listened to SOROW!!! GOOOOOOOOOOODBYEEE WOOOOOOOOOORRRRRLLDDD!!!! (Joe crys pathetically as he has to do yet another critical analysis of a passage from THE SCARLET LETTER)
JOE BOXER - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Thursday, February 24, 2000 06:50:07 AM
IP: spider-tn012.proxy.aol.com

****BEGIN RP!!!****
"Let's check on the others, then go take a nap." Jaden hears Kitainia say while spying on their conversation with Atilla.
<<Elsewhere>>
Alchemist strolls up to Thailog with a sinister grin on his face. "Well Thailog, you'll never guess where the Ravens are going to show up next."
Screen goes dark.
****END RP!!!****

Xanathar-Congrats with you and Fleur. I had a hint that something was going on between the two of you by the way you acted in the Reunion chatroom. ;)

Mecord><<Ever think so long and so hard in quiet solitude that your ears hurt from the noise?>> Actually yes. Some nights I'll just be thinking so hard that I'll hear a ringing in my ears and if I stop to concentrate on it, the ringing grow louder and louder till I have to mentally block it out before it drives me insane.

Gargoyles evolution- Well since they are supposed to be an ancient race. So isn't it possible that other species with such, shall we say, interesting traits could have simply died out? I mean there are countless species that are extinct most of them we probably don't even know about and those we do know about we are not 100% sure about who they were.

Tolerance for the Gargoyles- You know I think The Goliath Cronicles did a good job in predicting what would happen if Gargoyles suddenly appeared today. I don't think there would be a bunch of hammer-swinging nuts (I don't know, do I have to much faith in humanity as usual?), but I'm sure most people would be scared, most curious (me), some excited (me), some thrilled (me!), and I do hope there would be a group like the P.I.T. Who here would join? As if I had to ask.

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos
Thursday, February 24, 2000 02:50:00 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Quick question here....does anyone know when the new Gargoyles season is going to begin? Or even IF a new season will begin...? If so, when?
Josh - [gaelicgaru@aol.com]
Oregon
Thursday, February 24, 2000 02:37:31 AM
IP: spider-tr074.proxy.aol.com

**YET ANOTHER ABSOLUTELY GHASTLY DC DEATH!!!**

["@#$%#$@^#$^&#%^&#%^!#$%@%&%&*#$%^#@!!!!!!!" A litany of authoritatively vile obscenities in arcane languages, spoken in the characteric roar of an enraged gargoyle, echo down the corridor as Wilek, enraged to the point of blind fury, stalks into the room and eyes his target, Mr. Disconnect. He grabs DC by the lapels and slams him against the wall, then fishes a Playstation memory card from his pocket. "Look familiar, dirtbag?" DC: "Um..." "THIS was my Final Fantasy 7 saved game. A saved game I'd spent *eleven hours* getting to. And guess what happened. 'File is ruined.' ELEVEN MOTHER <censored> HOURS OF MY LIFE THAT I WILL NEVER GET BACK!!!" DC: "I...I...I..." Wilek: "NO EXCUSES!!! This is the WORST THING that you have EVER DONE TO ME!!! And for this...for this...you're about to recieve the worst thing I've ever done to you. <whips out an envelope> This contains a photograph of the dark god Ghatanothoa of the Cthulhu Mythos. Seeing an image of Ghatanothoa causes slow, agonizing petrifaction, leaving the victim blind, numb, and immobile until he loses his mind. It was nice knowing you. Not." Wilek removes the picture from the envelope and shows it to DC, who isn't quick enough to avoid catching a glimpse of it. He falls to the ground in abject suffering, and after a few minutes, he is too far gone to even scream."]

**END**

<sighhhh> After I'm done here; I'll study the Debug Room's guide; hopefully I can use it to get back to where I was...otherwise, I may as well never play the thing again, since I know I'll never make it all the way through...

Jannie> <<*cringes and then grins* loved the Promised Deaths of the Mr. DC *cackles*>> Thanks. ^_^

Doug> $<<Whichever kind of real demon the new Borg critter is is up to you.>> Hehehe...*ohhh*, the fun I'll have with this... >8) $ <<It won't download for more than five minutes and the file I want to get is gonna take a lot more than that.>> Do you have GoZilla or a similar download manager? I think GoZilla is available at www.gozilla.com, and I've heard of others...

Selanit> <<In an intelligent, tool-using species such as the gargoyles, a prehensile tail would be even more invaluable. How many times have *you* needed a third hand?>> You wouldn't believe how useful a tail is for using a mouse (got the idea from a Dilbert comic, hehe). ;D

Warpmind> <<I suspect the delirium thingie *may* be related to a PSI shock, rather than mere surprise. Think about it: werewolves are shapeshifters. Does it seem all that improbable that the shapeshifting process releases a blast of magical energy?>> :O Of *course*...I never realized...<<And as for the FF series, well, the first game was for the original 8-bit Nintendo... 'nuff said. ;)>> Actually that wasn't a bad little system; some of the greatest games ever made were for it (like the Mega Man series and a few others which escape my memory at the moment). :) <<By the way, why have you others kept off the Joyride for so long? Unless I miss my mark, I was the last to Joyride someone.>> Come to think of it...I'm not sure... O_o' <<Don't worry, though; if Wilek just gets that blue hiney of his into gear, I'll be running things over here soon, and then Norway will be more civilized.>> :P Oh, there are plans in motion...long range plans, to be sure, but what is time to an immortal (if everything goes well)...hehe...<<Far more likely is it that they are magically created beings, possibly as cannon fodder in a fey war, or something. Or for an entirely different purpose.>> Gee-*yads*, I hope not...although I could deal with us being descendants of modified humans (oh the irony)...

Shadowrider> <<in Italy we are strange about many things,but RAI (Italian public television) broadcasted the first two series a couple of times each (with an atrocious dubbing,by the way).>> Well, they were apparently not stupid enough to inflict the Goliath Chronicles on you. ;) <<I discovered the existence of someting called TGS just a couple of weeks ago I've been reading all the novels I could ,often standing till 5 A.M..By now I've read almost all the first seasons both of Gargoyles and of Timedancer.Did anyone around do the same?I'd like to hear some opinions about it.>> I read much of the first season of Timedancer in one or two frenzied nights while listening to the MP3 of the theme over and over...did as much to erode my sanity as anything that's happened to me here...<<Of the recurring characters in Gargoyles and TGS (including the spin-offs),who are your preferred ones?>> Um...no idea. :} <<I have to apologize:I really didn't understand what "...if Wilek just gets that blue hiney of his into gear..." does mean.I'm sorry.>> I'm a blue gargoyle who is at the head of a shadowy and intricate plan to take over the world. So far, I've only managed to overthrow the continents of Kibonia, Elbonia, and R'lyeh. (The Xothi were *ticked*. Until we offered a hefty bribe, at least.) <<what means "weird"?>> Hm...I think the Italian equivalent is 'strano'. :)

Rodlox> <<is Bronx in the same species as Broadway? {or is that a paralel development in terms of the heads}.>> Ehh...nah, humanoid gargs and garg beasts are different species, but they are about as closely related as humans and chimps...

Archwolf> <<it was holloween, and the delerium doedn't work on halloween>> Eh? <blink> Is this in some later edition of Werewolf: The Apocalypse (I only have the 2nd edition)?

Gside> <<a business card that I edited to give his correct number (and yes, the guy with hammers coming out of his head *is* throwing up his intestines).>> <blink> Wow. Very Giger. <applause> <<Another compression format, like *.gz, *.tar, *.lha ... Too bad Winzip doesn't seem to have built in compatability.>> Hm...are there programs for RAR and SIT files?

Xanathar> <<Since july last year Fleur and I have been chatting regularly through email and over the months we grew very close,and finally last week we both fell in love with each other(Were going on our first official date this Sunday:) ),I've never been so happy in all my life,I care about her more than words alone can say,*Kisses Fleur passionately*I LOVE HER!!:)>> Wow! Congratulations, kids! :D

Trinkulus> Wow, a lot of newcomers lately. :) I'm sure you know the drill...<extracts sanity>

Mecord> <<(points at Wilek) You were there, and you, and you….>> Yup, I was there...until my computer crashed with the *weirdest* error I've ever seen (a My Computer window displaying my hard drive's root directory popped out of nowhere)...<<Someone last week mentioned that there had been an episode Disney was unwilling to show due to a pool of blood? I think that’s hardly fair since they seem to show City of Stone rather frequently. They may not have noticed but Demona is seen slaughtering humans. Not just crushing statues that turn to normal after the spell is reversed, but actual murder! For Gargoyles (and those of us that spend enough time in that mindset) a pile of rubble that used to be a living soul, is just as graphic as a pool of blood. When I first heard of Gargoyles I though, oh another Disneyfied cartoon to amuse the worlds wide eyed children. I was shocked when, in the first episode, an entire clan is slaughtered! No four ton dragons with pink pixie wings here. The hero’s could be vengeful, attack first, and have plenty of character flaws, even the villains were different and sometimes immortal. The “evil” Xanatos had a tendency to come out on top more often than not and was peculiar in that he wasn’t a vengeful person. Also in City of Stone, Demona leads a clan in history that raids and murders. Death is a common scene in this cartoon. At one point, Elisa actually Kills Demona (even though she comes back) and now they get queasy over a little blood?>> Doesn't make sense, does it? Truth is, Disney's been uncomfortable about Gargoyles almost since the beginning; I count it a miracle that they still show it at all (even though they censor it heavily)...

Christine> <<hmm, let me think ... Joy was on the plump side, Crimson was beaked, Miriam was also plump, Deborah has that big ol' rhino horn, and Birdie-as-a-garg was no supermodel either. Lots of well-padded ladies of mine, gee I wonder why! ; )>> :) Glad to hear it; I've never understood why thinnish females are commonly considered more attractive than others...I've always rather liked the largish ones (either 'well-padded' or just generally large)... :)

$Guhh, I had an RP lined up for last night's post, but last night's post never happened and I don't remember what I was gonna do...gads, what is going *on* lately...<sigh>$

Wilek Nereus
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:58:26 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Gside: <nods> Thanks for the help. You don't happen to know what programs can uncompress a .arj file, do you? Point me towards one if you can. Or Warpmind can do it. :) In any case, hope I find the utility soon so I can crack open the game.

Bye for now.

Doug
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:34:41 AM
IP: pool-209-138-60-25.dlls.grid.net

Rodlox> Ontogeny Recapulates Phylogeny: Thanks. I really should remember that...

Doug> download: Sorry about that. I don't have your problems (ethernet=7MB in <1min), but I would suggest a download helper like Gozilla or GetRight. They can recommence broken downloads.

Xanathar and Fleur> Congratulations.

Robby> <<how many couples has this fandom brought together now? Quite a few I think>>: **Warning: chauvinistic material ahead** Happy day! **wields club** I gotta get me a WOMAN! **casts lascivious glace around room** **End chauvinistic material**

Warpmind> gaming: Go ahead with Doom2, heck I am playing ancient emulators, and even an occasional game of Rogue (gotta love the classics). Of course, a cray never hurts...
<<I didn't have any social life that could suffer>> Ditto.
<<whispering a quiet prayer to the Powers that Be to let him have power for the Chat tonight...>>: Apparently someone likes you.

Mr. Jensen> <<I'd cite in particular the bit in Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" where Aule makes the Dwarves>>: "...Seven for Dwarf lords in their halls of stone..."

Warpmind> <<powerful enough to *create* life>>: Eh, life's easy. Sugar, phosphate, base, repeat. Yeah, throw in a couple protiens, and a semi-permiable membrane if you really want to get fancy...

Kitainia> <<[Knights of Xentar] does look interesting and enjoyable>>: Other things you will never hear: "I'm gonna chop my !@#$ off and shove a red hot poker up my !@#"
*.arj: Another compression format, like *.gz, *.tar, *.lha ... Too bad Winzip doesn't seem to have built in compatability.

Shadowrider> <<I really didn't understand what "...if Wilek just gets that blue hiney of his into gear..." does mean>>: That's no problem. I assume the problem is the blue, not the idiom. Wilek just happens to be a blue gargoyle. Stop by his page for some pictures.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:32:06 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Kit> Oh, my Lord! I HAVE to tell you all about it! It was probably one of those moments where I'd never been more proud of my best friend. The band played probably the best they ever had, except for a few mic problems that weren't their fault. It was so obvious that they were going to win because half the audience was from our school. We made a really rowdy mosh pit and pissed off the rest of the schools. I was not only in the front row, but I had the best seat in the whole place! For you see, the contest was held in a ranch (which I still don't understand but it was hilarious) and there was a line of hay stacks along the front of the stage. I was sitting *on* them so the pit couldn't push me, and I happened to sit right in front of the speakers and Joe. So when his solo came up, I got the crowd to clapping and I was so close to him that I was only an arm's length away! They really deserved to win and I'm sooooooo proud! I wish you and Doug could have been there, but it's alright. We were thinking about you :)
SOROW
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:16:02 AM
IP: dll2a020-1090.splitrock.net

Kitana and Anne-- thnaks for the kind words- glad you enjoyed it -- Kitana- let it suffice to say taht Thailog is like Xanatos at the end of Hunters Moon- the fued has ended with the clan, but that doesn't mean he's not up to his old tricks- just nothing against the clan-- I intend to write a synopsis of what will happen (I havent' written it yet- so things won't be so confusing)

Anne- thanks for the encouragement- it really helps- i am trying to make sure I write every day, and it helps! ^_^

Christine- didn't get the character stats to you on Bathsheba- something came up and I was stranded away from my notes- but maybe for next time.


jenna
Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:05:52 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-116.hstntx.swbell.net

Well, I'm happy to report that the "Talk to the Pros" chat went well! We had six guests show up: Greg Weisman, Thom Adcox Hernandez, Steve Perry (who sent a message from Michael Reaves who was ill and could not attend), Cary Bates, Roy Sato, and Jamie Thomason. It was a fairly lively chat, even with Leva fielding the questions from the fans. We are collecting our chat logs and will hopefully have them up on the Reunion sometime tomorrow. The guests, especially the new ones, were very pleased with the reception they received from all of you and hopefully, they'll be at a real Gathering sometime soon.

Thanks for making this a great Gargoyles Fandom event!!

Spike
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:24:09 PM
IP: pppt04-240.ght.iadfw.net

Kitainia> It's no big deal. I usually write anything longer than a couple of paragraphs in a Notepad so I won't lose all my work if my internet connection goes down. I'll just find a spare floppy to keep them on from now on. I may even have a couple of the old OLP's saved on disk somewhere.

Wouldn't that be cute, Obnoxiously Long Re-runs :>

Anyway, I'm glad you liked my last one. I was hoping it would set off a good juicy discussion. To bad it got eaten by the cyber-langoliers.

To the room in general> If any of you habitually save copies of the CR and could put the Demona post back up, that would be great. Otherwise, I guess ya'll will just have to wait until I feel like writing something along those lines again.

Of course, the Demona debate runs in roughly 3 month cycles, so it won't be that long before it's the topic of discussion again...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:13:01 PM
IP: dll2a020-1221.splitrock.net

Kitainia:>After I posted my previous message,I noticed your one,so I'm still here.Thank you for welcoming me and for explaining me the RPG rules.Up to now,I really enjoy the room's atmosphere and think I'll keep on connecting as often as I can.My preferred characters?Out of all,for sure Brooklin,I liked him since "Awakenings" (Hey,he's a biker like me,it counts!) and recently Sata (not only because she's Brooklin's lover-I find she's an interesting character;then,I'm really concerned in martial arts and I like the way Sata lives the Warrior Code).Then...well...I like Xanatos (one of the best "bad guys" I've never seen,Lexington,Claw and Vinnie (The boy with the pie-thrower bazooka) and even Hyena (She's really mad,I love mad girls...;)).About "Pendragon" and "Dark Ages"...well...I admit I've not read any of them by now (I focused on Gargoyles and Timedancer) but I'll do and then I'll make you know what I think about it.
Hey,I'm falling asleep at my desk (really),so I have to go.

Goodbye Kitainia
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 09:02:34 PM
IP: h213-20-185.mi2.albacom.net

Here I am-again.Sorry I didn't connect for a while,but I had a terrific day!!Well,go along.

Anne:>I thank you for your welcome,no matter if it comes late (just a little),the simple fact counts.Thank you so much!My favorite episodes?Well,in the original series...mmm...maybe "Upgrade" (Brooklin has a major role and it counts to me,but I also really enjoyed Xanatos and Fox playing chess with Gargoyles' and Pack members' lifes)or maybe "Future Tense" (I found some scenes of it interestingly resemblant to certain atmospheres from X-Men's "Age Of Apocalypse" (did you read it?));By now,I'm reading the TGS novels...well,I've read a few of them up to now,but I think many of them are really cool!My preferred?Well,just before entering,I've read Timedancer's "Daylight" and..well...at a first look,I found it touching;I mean,I usually am not the romantic guy,but...certain moments...the way Sata,the usually steel-cold warrior,slumps in desperation as she fears to loose Brooklin,the scene in the backseat of the running car ("...Ai stiteru yo..."),the epilogue on Notre Dame's roof...well...I felt upset at first,reliefed in the (happy) end (?) and even a bit envious of Brooklin!I liked Sata since his first appearance in "Dishonor",and I'm going to like her more after that.I eventually enjoyed a lot while reading "Fleeting encounters",I always appreciate Brooklin's odd humor,and I liked the scene with Sata telling a Japanese fable to the child to make him sleep.In TGS' Gargoyles series,I liked "Equality" a lot.

Warpmind:>I sadly think you're right:usually people are less pleasant than the land they live in (I heard someone say "the more pleasant the land,the less pleasant the people":if it is true,we Italians are for sure one of the worst people in the world!I'm not joking,I love my country,but as I see my own people mistreating and despising it,or remembering the existence of something called "Fatherland" just as it is useful for them...well...stop it).I have to apologize:I really didn't understand what "...if Wilek just gets that blue hiney of his into gear..." does mean.I'm sorry.

Xanathar and Fleur:>I don' know you,but I feel I have to congratulate with you both anyway:a new love going born is ALWAYS a good thing,no matter circumstances.Best luck for you two!

Tolerance for the Gargoyles:>Well,I don't really think that creatures like our beloved Gargoyles could really be welcomed by society,no matter the historical period:they are too different from average humans (i think to their sense of honor,their warrior courage,their almost invincible resolution to protect no matter the cost-all things that many humans have forgotten);people is scared by what is different and Gargoyles' somewhat weird physical appearance (but what means "weird"?I personally think there's no physical appearance I can't get used with and even appreciate-with a little time to deal with it) surely would't help.In any period,a few people would react with tolerance and friendship,but the biggest part would form something like the Quarrymen.Anyway,I think nowadays is the best period for Gargoyles to get revealed:we live in the Age of Indifference and 'd be a chance that,after the first reactions,Gargoyles 'd simply be forgotten,as the umpteenth variations of "green little men from Mars".

Frankestein:>After giving my previous contribution,I picked up my copy of the Mary Shelley's masterwork (I didn'open it since about five years!Time really runs away!) and I seeked for some truth in its pages;well,I have to admit that some of the characters may have been influenced by the Creature's history;apart Coldstone (Xanatos himself admits it-if I remember well),I think that Demona,but also Goliath and Machbeth may remember Frankenstein's monster in some way that I can' explain by words -not in English for sure,maybe in Italian I could- but at the same time the three of them are very different:Frankenstein,Demona,Goliath and Machbeth are all authonomous characters,each one with his complex personality and conflicts,everyone of them has his own reason to act the way he (she) does and that's why it is not easy to forget them.

To everyone:>does anyone know when will be published new episodes of TGS? I know,I've read a few of them,but I already tremble as I think I'll finish them soon...

Well,time to sleep for me (as I'm writing this,my clock marks 2:45 AM,Italian Local Time) so Goodbye to everyone and see you around.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 08:44:58 PM
IP: h213-20-185.mi2.albacom.net

**RP HERE- BE ALERT**

"Better get someone down here quick," Keith mutters as the stunned Mecord crumbles beside him and Stephanie. Kit's sister nods, ready with her sword in case the Borg drones the demon corrupted regroup. Fortunately they all seem to be fizzling with the shock of the dimensional disruption. Then slowly they begin to recover and rise again, starting with the one who started the whole mess. Keith and Stephanie are about to attack it when a load of blessed buckshot cuts it down from behind. "Need a hand?" Shap asks from the doorway, following the inital shot up with several more to blanket the rest of the Borg-demons. Shauna and Tom, who stand at his sides, follow up with exploding arrows and grenades. "Nice timing, guys," Keith says, tossing in a few explosive ninja stars to finish the job while Stephanie cuts down two demons that get too close with her blade. Orion then runs in and stands in the center of the room throwing holy water and white powder in a circle, at the same time calling out blessings and prayers. The demons wail in anguish and are soon all banished, the Borg technology they bonded with now lying inert on the floor. The Ravens' cleric looks at it and breathes a sigh of relief. "We were close enough to hear the noise and came quickly," he says. "Are these all that escaped the hangar?" "We hope so," Stephanie says. "Come on, let's get Mecord here to sickbay. He needs to recuperate a bit." "What about those guys over there?" Shauna points at four normal Borg drones rushing into the room behind Commander Khesat and Jespe. "I'll handle it," Tom says, then walks over to the Avatar staff as they survey the scene and explains what happens. They nod and leave. "Things should be okay," Tom walks back to the others and says. "They'll make sure no more demons get opportunistically assimilated." "Good," Shap nods, shaking his head at the devestation that was almost wrought in the room. "I just hope none of them escaped into the Avatar's central network like in that one Buffy episode." "The Administrator will probably take care of it," Stephanie shrugs, pointing to a damaged section of wall that is regenerating. "She's already repairing the devestation here." "So I see," Orion nods. "Would that all wounds caused by demons could be fixed as easily." He sighs and helps Keith pick up Mecord. "Let's take him to the infirmary, I can heal him there. Then we'll call Doug and Kit and ask them what to do next." The others nod in agreement and then they all head back into the Avatar's cooridor network as the screen goes blank.

**END FIRST BIT OF RP**

Ack, what happened in here over the weekend? Another dreadful DC deed, probably. :( Glad the CR is still up even if last week's is lost. :( Let's see what I can get caught up with.

Everyone enjoying the Gargoyles Reunion so far? I hope so, I have barely been able to get into it myself. Figures, doesn't it? The one Gathering I can attend, and I have to be kicked out frequently by a stupid flawed server. <mutters> Oh well, not much I can do about it, I guess. At least the few times I've gotten to chat and lurk these past few days have been fun, and who knows, maybe there're better times ahead. The Reunion isn't over just yet, after all. Some things that have happened in it I'm also kinda glad I missed, like the awful Round Robin last night (thanks for sharing the little bits of it over AOL IM, Robby). :) I just hope the server problems don't show up during any of the big special events tonight, tomorrow, or Friday. You can kick me out of the chat rooms with no problem, DC, but if you do the same to Greg, Doug, Christine, Spike, and all the other more important people among Gargoyles fandom, there will be hell to pay. :)

Kaioto: Sorry to hear about your theft experience. Glad you're approaching it the right way though. :) Good luck continuing to feel alright and not bitter about it (and good luck also to the police in catching the thief of course). I respond to theft in the same way Lexy does, I don't like or understand it and am appropriately angry whenever it happens. But like you, I also recognize that you can't do anything about it once it's happened and you just have to deal. <sighs> Hope you're soon able to find some way to be in touch with us on a regular basis again, we'll be missing you too until it comes. :)

Fox Shows: Good news, everyone. If you're like me and you hated the Fox Special Who Wants to Marry a Multimillionaire last week, you should feel vindicated to know that a whole bunch of scandals have erupted over it. Apparently the Multimillionare who participated had a past arrest history of significant other abuse that prompted Fox to cancel its planned rebroadcast of the special last night. <smiles> Also, the marriage itself that resulted from that travesty of a pageant is expected to end before too long, as the couple has quickly found out they hate each other (why am I not surprised?). Fox has reacted to this with the decree that from now on they are going to put fewer shockumentaries and shows like WWMM on the air. Hope they keep that promise. (And that it means they'll clear space for more quality programming as well. If the awful Simpsons, X-Files, and Futu-rama episodes they aired Sunday night are any indication, Fox desperately needs some better writers. And shows. Its future does not look good when the effects and the dumb jokes in its programming overshadow what should matter more- the character development, plots, etc. :( )

Garg Physiology: Good points about them, Doug, Pistoff, and Selanit. I agree that a lot of the female gargs in the show did have a bit too good bodies. Even Ophelia had a figure some women I know would kill for. :) I too would have liked to see more variety, but of course since the show's off the air now that's not quite as possible as it once was. :( And there was a lot of variety even in the show, as Selanit reminded us. It's good that the TGS staff and fanfic writers such as Jenna are somewhat picking up the slack by making their female Gargs more physically diverse than the original show's (they do have more characters to work with, but that's beside the point). The fact that their personalities are likewise diverse is even more applauded by me. :) Not sure where I stand on general Gargoyle evolution and physical structure, though good points have also been made about it. Hope that those in here who know more about biology are able to settle the issues without too much more debate.

Shadowrider: Welcome! Your posts make it look like you'll fit in well here, that's good to know. :) Hope you continue to enjoy the atmosphere and make some friends. Hope your English also improves through experiences in here, though do feel free to talk in Italian if you want to (not all of us can read it of course, but I'm sure a few can. :) I too have read all the TGS episodes from the various seasons and series, though not in one setting, and enjoyed them immensly. The plots, action, pics, character development, etc. have all been good to read about and see. My favorite characters overall are Goliath, Elisa, Graeme, and Ari (Gargoyles), Una and Emrys (Pendragon), Asrial and Roland (Dark Ages), and Brooklyn, Sata, and Harthoth (Timedancer). Which are yours?
$ <I noticed there's a sort of RPG running in this room.How does it work?> The RP in here works through a Round Robin storytelling format with certain rules (has to be in continuity, no more than one RP post per participant per day, and you have to put at least as much stuff about non-RP topics in your RP posts as RP stuff. The warnings you also see around RP bits are also required as a courtesy, as are the $ signs around paragraphs and bits that discuss RP events in the middle of posts. Feel free to join in the RP if you like, we've all had a lot of fun with it since Doug and I started it a couple years ago. Basically the story is that we (the CR dwellers participating) and our friends are a group of heroes trying to stop a certain power-mad gargoyle clone (Thailog) and his various allies, who include mad scientists and their fiendish creations, other evil clones, psychotics of all types, demons from Hell, criminals, etc. from taking over the world. It's a seemingly never-ending and very involved battle. :) $

Jenna: Good job on that sci-fi story. The development on Thailog and Demona was excellent, even though some of what you did with the former was a little hard to imagine at first (I need to read more of your saga). Bathsheba was an interesting character as well, and I really liked all the Mars imagery. Thanks for the entertainment, and I hope I soon get the time to read more of the creativity demons that have come forth from your mind. :)

Katara: Congrats on the niece. Hope she grows up well. :)

Jannie: Congrats to you and Denis on being able to attend G2K, hope you enjoy it. Thanks also for letting me know that your fellow teachers liked my comments from last week. I apologize for being a little worried about it, it's just that Doug and I have encountered quite a few teachers in our lives who do more to further the Lost World Syndrome and impair children's development than enrich the lives of and teach children (examples- Doug's 11th grade English teacher who insisted on canceling class to watch the OJ verdict, a history teacher I had once who cared more about teaching a politically correct view of his subject than what actually happened in history, numerous teachers (mostly of athletics) who insist on dividing their students into cliques based on who's smart and who's not in their opinion, etc.). We were a little afraid you had teachers like them at your school and that if they saw such an essay trouble for you might result. :( Glad it didn't. Hope that you are continuing to feel good and teach well even with the hassles in your life.

SOROW: Please convey Doug's and my congratulations to Joe on winning the band contest. Again, we're sorry we couldn't have been there. :( You guys did enjoy the experience, though, right?

Xanathar: Big congrats to you and Fleur on getting together. Hope you both enjoy many happy relationship times as a result. :)

**WARNING- SPOILERS FOR BUFFY AND ANGEL**

Good episodes of both these shows last night. The character developments in each were very good, as were the plots. The gang's responses to Faith's return were quite appropriate and well-written, Spike's especially (I was laughing out loud when Xander and Giles told him about Faith being around. Makes one wonder why they don't just go ahead and mercy-kill that guy. It looks like he's not going to go good after all now. :( ). The Willow and Tara bits were nice too, as was the Faith development and getting to see the Mayor again. I especially enjoyed all the foreshadowing with the Council, Adam, the Initiave, and Faith in Buffy's body. Can't wait to see how it all plays out next week. Liked the comedy bits with Riley and Xander Anne mentioned too. The Angel episode was interesting as well, I enjoyed the flashbacks and the development they showcased as well as getting to find out Angel's real name. The development on Angel and Kate in the present was good also, and so was the development done on the latter's father (though I mourn his death, at least he went out with a good tale). Great emotions all throughout, especially in the "invited-in" scene Todd mentioned. The drugrunning demon subplot was a nice story too, and I enjoyed the action related to it (especially Angel's snappy quotes). Hope the writers of both shows keep up the good work, I can hardly wait for the events in next week's episodes. :)

**SPOILERS END**

David G.: I read your contribution to the Demona debate. Good job on it, sorry it got lost. Hope you find a way to save your OLPs soon. :)

Warpmind: Thanks for giving us back Knights of Xentar. I have to admit, I never really played the game while Doug and I had it but from what I saw of it and what Doug's told me about it, it does look interesting and enjoyable. Maybe I can play it some myself now that we have it again and perhaps I'll enjoy it even though I've never really been a big fan of Hentai RPGs (that's kinda to be expected, given that they're not exactly geared toward a female audience :). Just one question- the file we downloaded is in an unfamiliar format. We were expecting a Zip file or some such, and are not sure if we have anything on our computer that can read an .arj file. Is there some special program we have to get to access the info in such documents? If so, a link to where we can find it would be appreciated so we can play the game. Thanks for making it available whatever happens. :)

And that's all for now. I have studying to do tonight, so I better log off. Later everyone! <waves>

**RP ONCE MORE**

Doug and Kit sit in the Avatar's chapel, listening with grave expressions as Reverend Atilla tells them of the demon Ted Turner and the threat of his Hollywood Ten. "This is troubling," Doug frowns when he finishes. "To say the least." "Yeah," Kit nods. "It sounds like some powerful demons out there are planning something big for the world. It may or may not have anything to do with what Thailog has going, but we should stop it anyway." "Yes, we should," agrees Ave Maria. "Fortunately we know who exactly is involved due to Reverend Atilla's spies, though not what they plan. Stopping them won't be easy, but we should do our best to ensure it happens." "Yes," Doug replies. "Good thing these Hollywood Ten people are in Los Angeles. Asil's there too, doing something for Thailog. When we and the others head down there to take care of her, and that will be soon, we can investigate and possibly neutralize the Ten as well." "We better come with you to do that," Bernadette says. "Your presence would be welcomed," Kit smiles. "As would your skills." "I doubt stopping the Ten can be done in Hollywood alone," grimaces Atilla. "We'll have to take on Turner to get rid of their threat entirely and he's in Atlanta, not Hollywood. Then there's the matter of his master Gothmenes and whoever his allies are." "We'll stop them all," Doug declares. "It won't matter what kind of powers they have, we're fighting for the whole planet and all its races. That alone should make us stronger." He sighs, obviously feeling a bit tired. "For now I think we should all take advantage of the brief respite in the fighting to get some rest and then go handle events in Los Angeles. The key to completing the next stage of our mission has to be there." "Right," Kit agrees. "Let's check on the others, then go take a nap." She and Doug yawn and stand up to bid farewell to and thank Atilla and the scouts for their information as the RP screen goes blank once more.

**END THIS BIT OF RP**

Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:36:58 PM
IP: pool-209-138-60-25.dlls.grid.net

ATTENTION!!! Greg, Thom, Cary Bates, and Roy Sato are in the Reunion Special Events chat NOW!! Link the link to go directly to it!!
SPIKE
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:13:10 PM
IP: pppt04-240.ght.iadfw.net

Sorry for all the posts. Forgot to do my color in the last one. *shrugs*
Anne
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:08:39 PM
IP: 204-246-241-19.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Todd> Oh. I missed most of the first season due to lack of interest (back then I was too busy with other projects to care. Now how I regret it!). I think I'll try to buy the first season on videotape, see what I've missed (I saw Angel turn evil and saw the season finale of it, ever since then I've been in love with the show). Oh well. :)
Anne
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:04:20 PM
IP: 204-246-241-19.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Oopsie, forgot something.

Warpy> I'm assuming that Talon and Maggie had their little bundle of joy? (Congrats if they did!) :) As for the Joyriding, don't worry about it (for now!). ^_^

Anne
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:01:25 PM
IP: 204-246-241-19.nas2.apv.gblx.net

ANNE - The female vampire who "converted" Angel showed up in a few episodes of the first season of "Buffy". Her name was Darla, and she was one of the Master's flunkeys. She got staked in the episode that revealed that Angel was a vampire (probably by Buffy, although I don't remember for certain).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:00:44 PM
IP: 216.87.46.37.dialup-stl.primary.net

Female gargs > hmm, let me think ... Joy was on the plump side, Crimson was beaked, Miriam was also plump, Deborah has that big ol' rhino horn, and Birdie-as-a-garg was no supermodel either. Lots of well-padded ladies of mine, gee I wonder why! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:54:08 PM
IP: 04-185.009.popsite.net

Well, Todd, you do raise some good points. Actually, I am with you, too. I prefer thinking of the gargoyles as a naturally evolved species (and blast all the "how" questions to heck) rather that to believe them to be a successful lab experiment, as you put it. Frankly, I don't want to even *consider* a species that are powerful enough to *create* life. Though, I'd sure like the necessary level of magic myself. ;) Heh, which gives me a nice little mental image... I create some real-life gargoyles, and Disney decides to go legal on my @$$. Attorney: "Exhibit A: A living gargoyle belonging to the defendant." Gargoyle: *Roars* "I am a living gargoyle and I belong to NO ONE!!!" Me: "I gave'em free will. And a strong protective instinct, plus a high ethical code. Nice guys, when you don't annoy them." Attorney: "So, you admit it." Me: "Well, I made'em, besed on ideas from Disney. So sue me." Attorney: "We already did." Me: "Right. So, what for? Plagiarism?" Attorney: "Yes. Why did you do it?" Me: "I started out with the woman of my dreams. Then, I had to make more of her kind, so she wouldn't be lonely." Attorney: "So, you're really a sick person?" Me: "Ask the rest of the fans." The TGS residents, and fans worldwide: "HE'S NOT!" And so on... A perfectly nice trial reduced to comedy. Me like.

Anne: It seems the other Joyriders are taking a break. Don't ask me why; it just seems like they lost interest. *Grumbles something about "Damn quitters".* Pissy, Xanathar, Wilek, you better come up with something soon!

Well, I'll saunter off now; just 15 minutes left until the chat. Either that, or my watch has made its last tick. ;)

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:44:03 PM
IP: mp-216-237-46.daxnet.no

*Chibi-Claw comes huffing in after shaking off the rain that coats his fur, goes to CR fridge and starts scouting for snacks, hungrily throwing back different various foods that he doesn't seem to enjoy*

Hi all! :)

We went grocery shopping! We gots steaks...ribs...salad... cookies... buffalo wings... got some catnip for Attila. :) *tosses catnip to kitty* Oh, what a month! We've been so busy with school and friends and family and a whole lotta other stuff, I've missed all of you sooooo much! I can't believe I almost missed the Internet reunion! *slaps forehead since the walls seem to being used* I'm really enjoying the pics that are coming up there too. :)

Well, the weather down here is baaaaaad (saying that like a lamb seems more interesting. Don't know why. :p ). Been raining ever since his morning, and the clouds are rumbling and gray and aren't letting any sunshine come in. Very depressing, yet at least the rain's washing away the slush (I hope).

**Slight spoilers***
I managed to catch Buffy and Angel, and all I can say is... WOW! I mean, dear gadz, did you SEE what next week's ep is going to be about on Buffy!? OH MY! Yeesh, poor Riley. Faith is going to ruin everything between them, and they were such a great couple! *sniffles* Well, at least we know that Faith's going to get it, even if it is with a BANG! I absolutely loved this ep! Did you see Xander's face when Riley just turned on the gizmo gun with a simple switch?! I mean, after Xander's banged and pressed those switches so many times, Riley does it with a snap. I love it when they're in the basement, Xanders leaning over the gun, the others are talking, all of a sudden... ZAP! *Starts laughing* Sorry if I'm acting kinda weird. Haven't been able to laugh much since I've been working a lot lately. *laughs more*.
Tara & Willow's relationship> *comes out of hiding* Er, I think my last comment about them getting together was way too harsh. I'd like to fix that: if Joss Whedon had rushed that relationship to an over-night party and had made Willow seem like she's doing something we'd never thought she'd do too quickly, then I'll be very angry. But it seems things are going okay, and I don't mind it the more I think about it. Except for the fact that Tara does not seem to have good intentions with magic...hmm...
And Angel's ep was so awesome. What happened to the vapiress that changed him? I bet he killed her or something in the future, er, past, er, whatever, whatdduhyathink?

Scream3> I think that it was a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy. Very scary and intense, yet it did lack some wits and intelligence as usual. I mean, Duey, a police Deputy, should have known that the killer was wearing a bullet proof vest throughout the film! They were going throughout the movie going, "Oh, like Randy said, he must be unkillable!" At the end it's like, "Oh, d'oh, um, really???"! Also I think that we should have been given more clues as to what Sidney's family relations were. I mean, who the heck knows about her mother's relationships? Anyway, that's enough for me. *begins to hum innocently*
***Slight spoilers end***

Fanfic update> I have no idea when I'm going to be able to put up my website. Could be tomorrow, could be another month. *Sighs irritably*

Mecord> Good points about the Gargoyles ep taken out. Gets me really mad STILL after all these weeks. Oh Joyriders, Joyriders, where art thou Joyriders? :p

Xanathar & Fluer> Congratulations you lovebirds! So THAT'S why you haven't been posting as regularly, huh? *cocks eyebrows questioningly*

Jenna> I read your latest fic. :) *cheerfully claps* That was good! I know you said you were a slow writer but I hope to read your next one soon. ^_^

Frankenstein> I loved that book! That was, like, the first horror book that I read (I was eight years old). Ever since then I've read it five times and I can't get sick of it. :) As for Gargoyles and Frankenstein--Coldstone coming to mind--wait a minute...nah...

Ventura> I've lost respect for him, mostly because of his comments about Christianity. Nuff said.

Shadowrider> I'm sorry I wasn't able to say welcome since you've all ready been welcomed! :) So, what's your favorite Gargoyles episode? I think mine is either Future Tense or Awakenings part 1, or 2, or...well, you get the drift.

Female gargs appeances> We've seen a few with crests, one of them Angela's friends. Otherwise they're like supermodels. In my fic, one of the newcomers has horns, Brook's little girl inherits his beak, um, a half Fae garg has large fin-like ears (for example, like Joy, Hudson's mate in Christine's fic). I don't know if those count though. *Shrugs*

Anyway, I'm starving so I think I'll join Claw. *Sits down after digging through the grocery bag and grabbing a bowl of salad and a plate of roast chicken* Yummy. :)

Bye all. ^_^

Anne
MN, USA
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:39:09 PM
IP: 204-246-241-19.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Salvete! I would have posted like last week but DC was giving me problems. *glares at DC as a piano drops on him*

Todd Jensen> Thanks for answering my question a couple weeks ago, and I agree with Gargoyles being "natural."

Stephen Sobotka> Belated congratulations to you! :-D

Demona debate: Well, I _had_ a little something to contribute, but then DC came along... *drops a grand piano on him this time*

Kaioto> Eek, sorry about your laptop... and I was just thinking that it had been way too long since I'd chatted with anyone at all on ICQ. :-P

Gathering 2000> It's so frustrating. I'll still be taking summer classes when it gets to Orlando, and I still have uncertain travel plans to visit relatives in Canada. So close yet so far. :-( I won't pre-register because I don't know if my schedule permits my attending, but hopefully I can show up for a day. *sigh*

Blue Caeru - [BlueCaeru@cs.com]
Gainesville, FL, USA
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:37:50 PM
IP: spider-te034.proxy.aol.com

WARPMIND - Personally, I prefer to believe that gargoyles really are natural beings rather than a magical creation, particularly because if they were created by faerie magic, that produces an entirely different view of them. Instead of being an ancient independent race, they become just some sort of "lab experiment" of the fay. How would the gargoyles view themselves if that had turned out to be the case and they discovered it? How would Demona feel upon discovering that she and her kind were nothing more than the magical equivalent of Frankenstein's monster? Such a concept is way too unsettling for me (and I'm sure that it would be that way for them).

My own feeling is that even the fay might not be able to create something on the level of gargoyles. When Oberon brought those statues to "life" in "The Gathering Part Two", all that he got was flying statues that remained made of stone and displayed no signs of intelligence. I think that even the greatest magic isn't powerful enough to create actual life. (I'd cite in particular the bit in Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" where Aule makes the Dwarves, but that'll have to be for another time).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:24:03 PM
IP: 216.87.46.37.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Warpmind enters, appearing a little nervous.*
Seems the power is a bit uncertain today... I just hope I'll have the necessare electricity to attend the Meet the Pros chat tonight... And, to top off an otherwise cheerful day, Xoom.com's e-mail service is temporarily down for maintenance. *Grump.*

Spike: Well, you can't really complain... you thought it up, and we'll be damned if we don't let you assume responsibility for it. ;) By the way, if "Gargoyles" had had an adult rating, do any of you out there think we would have heard mention of it on the show? :)

Toku Kaioto: Um, have you lost something? If so, you must have said so between the time of my last posting before the site went down, and when the site went down... I can't really give you any sympathy until I know what happened... :|

Shadowrider: Yep, that's the cold, hard truth. Actually, the video edition of Awakenings exists with Norwegian subtitles, but that's the full extent of it. Don't worry, though; if Wilek just gets that blue hiney of his into gear, I'll be running things over here soon, and then Norway will be more civilized. Sure, it's a nice country... but the people are less pleasant altogether. (Though, I guess that goes for humanity in general.)

Doug: No prob. I'm trying to upload it right now, as I type. Click my addy. (If you see the file, it's there. If not, I'm still working on it.) ;)

Kaioto again: Some lowlife stole your LAPTOP? Well, it could be worse... of course, considering that the laptop of a civilian often contains highly personal material, I hope you get it back soon, without any alterations.

Patrick Toman: Gargoyles are an avolutionary enigma, granted. But, as has been mentioned so often, maybe they didn't just neturally evolve? Far more likely is it that they are magically created beings, possibly as cannon fodder in a fey war, or something. Or for an entirely different purpose.

Gside: Dude, I'm a DOOM2 addict. Can't get enough. Sure, I'd probably use it for Q2 or Half-Life as well, but Doom 2 would probably be the big 3D game. Unless one of the more sophisticated Battle Chess versions count. ;) Then, I'd probably play Civilization (original one) and ZZT. ;)

Archwolf: Delirium doesn't work on Halloween? Hm, maybe I ought to read some of these "Books of Darkness"... Never read any; just played V:TM once. (Clan Tremere, blindingly intelligent, but with only 1 point in physical strength. He's a wuss, but he's got two Brujah stooges as companions.)

*Pats Mecord on the head.* There, there, you'll get better in a little while. :) And as for catching up with TGS... um, I think I spent just a little more than a month... when the series had just taken a season end... WAY past 180 episodes. Fortunately, I didn't have any social life that could suffer. ;) And as for the map... *Flashes small orange pin* You're just not cleared for that.

**RP**
Warpmind saunters into the medical bay, where Kaioto is resting. He grabs a chair and sits down, contemplating for a moment.
"So, you are the Seeker... Thank Goodness the Quencher isn't here, as well."
Kaioto blinks a blurry eye open.
"Qu... Quencher?"
Warpmind nods.
"The Seeker is empowered by the High Heavens. The Quencher is empowered by the Burning Netherworlds. My family, the Realmsfarers, are the neutral guys, with no powers beyond taking a stroll in the realms of the departed. And now, we have a really bad situation coming up, threatening the balance of good and evil. I see but one solution for you, though; to drink this healing elixir made from the Living Water of Heaven."
Warpmind holds out a vial that seems to shine from within with a glow of health.
"I fear we need you at top strength now, but the choice, as in all these matters, is yours."
Warpmind places the vial on the nightstand.
"Well, Seeker, what's it gonna be?"
**RP END**

Doug again: The game just uploaded properly. Retrieve it at your leisure.

*Warpmind heads out again, whispering a quiet prayer to the Powers that Be to let him have power for the Chat tonight...*

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 05:43:28 PM
IP: mp-217-208-133.daxnet.no

Wow, that scream went all the way across the room. Oops.
Mec - [scroll that way==>]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 04:49:11 PM
IP: usr53.mtwest.net

Be warned, long post with anger venting.

**Mecord rides in on a high horse and wearing earmuffs**

Ever think so long and so hard in quiet solitude that your ears hurt from the noise?

**Pauses for deep breath**

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHRG!!!!!

**Panting** Everything was going great at the Round Robin at first. But then I suddenly get these server reset errors? Sometimes I could access the chat room but I couldn’t post. It was as if my computer would lock up. But off the internet everything was fine. >8( Tried shutting down and starting over. Then the problem spread, I couldn’t post anything any where. Too bad too, I had a thoroughly wicked death for a DC or two that involved the others who were having problems. (points at Wilek) You were there, and you, and you….

Someone last week mentioned that there had been an episode Disney was unwilling to show due to a pool of blood? I think that’s hardly fair since they seem to show City of Stone rather frequently. They may not have noticed but Demona is seen slaughtering humans. Not just crushing statues that turn to normal after the spell is reversed, but actual murder! For Gargoyles (and those of us that spend enough time in that mindset) a pile of rubble that used to be a living soul, is just as graphic as a pool of blood. When I first heard of Gargoyles I though, oh another Disneyfied cartoon to amuse the worlds wide eyed children. I was shocked when, in the first episode, an entire clan is slaughtered! No four ton dragons with pink pixie wings here. The hero’s could be vengeful, attack first, and have plenty of character flaws, even the villains were different and sometimes immortal. The “evil” Xanatos had a tendency to come out on top more often than not and was peculiar in that he wasn’t a vengeful person. Also in City of Stone, Demona leads a clan in history that raids and murders. Death is a common scene in this cartoon. At one point, Elisa actually Kills Demona (even though she comes back) and now they get queasy over a little blood?

**deep breath** Okay, I’ll get off my high horse now.

**dismounts**

Frankenstein: I was surprised at how many commented on that remark. I was mentally befuddled from too much homework at the time and I wasn’t very clear.
Warpmind> the main point I wanted to draw between the monster and Demona was that they were alone for the majority of life and had a vendetta against mankind because of man’s treatment to them. Both are inseparably connected to one man in particular (Frankenstein/Macbeth) and are hunted by that man at some point. Other than that, your right, not much in common. Two completely different creatures with different situations and motives.

Shadowrider> I’m fairly new here too. It took me a long time to catch up with all the TGS stories, but well worth the time and effort. As for favorites, they tend to come in twos; Original eps. “Eye of the Beholder” and “Mirror”, cannon characters Brooklyn and Elisa, TGS characters Asriel and Thersties.

Archwolf> HEY another Pern fan! Different realm though, I assume that if Savarius can splice Human/Gargoyle DNA it would be double helix.

Random thought on Broadway> Gargoyles supposedly generate solar energy during the day so they don’t have to eat as much to maintain energy. Is it possible Broadway has a kind of disorder that hinders that process, requiring him to eat more than normal? Since not all that he eats would be converted into energy that would account for the waist size.

Fossilization: Anyone ever been to Dinosaur National Monument in Utah? I grew up there. Anyway, Fossilization (simplified) is a gradual process over thousands and even millions of years long, where bones are replaced by stone, the rest of the body decays and essentially disappears. Imprints can also fossilize as sediments solidify and the imprint is filled in with a different kind of stone or crystal. It is hard to speculate as to why no Gargoyle fossils have not been found, they may have a unique decaying process due to the turning to stone process, may be because of the burial sites haven’t been found (DA burial at sea for instance), or the species may still be too young for there to be many fossils (though that doesn’t explain why other remains haven’t been found).

Xanathar and Fleur>> Congratulations, but no big surprise, Caught you two smooching in the Reunion chat rooms in the late hours of the night. ;)

Mara>> <What decade in US history might have had the most tolerance for gargoyles and the least tolerance. Why? Why not?> Tough one. Late 1700’s early 1800’ for the least tolerance. The Manifest destiny was in swing and the government was bent on conquering the continent no matter what stood in their way. Native Americans were killed and driven off, slavery still in full affect, Gargoyles would have been slaughtered. For the most tolerance, probably modern times. There are enough of us sensible people out there that we could probably aid them. List them as endangered species, con the president into a personal interview (he would probably fall for it too), publicize it all, and they might just have a shot at life. Of course there would still be hate groups out there. Just remember the right of assembly only holds true as long as it’s non-violent. Then it becomes a riot.

I found a historical reference to the Illuminati. It is a journal of a Venician Monk named Fra Mauro. He is a cartographer to the court of Venice. Seems he had a side project. Word spread of his work and suddenly he had a lot of colaborators. One of his colaborators termed their grouped work as Illuminati. It seems that Fra Mauro was making a map that would be encyclopedial in its nature. But the collaboration involved mystical aspects and different veiw of the natural and supernatural. Almost as if the world was more than we knew. The interesting part is that his map was never found. Or was it ever lost.... The book translated and adapted is by James Cowen, "A Mapmaker's Dream: The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the court of Venice" in case anyone wants to look into it.

****RP with a little action****
Mecord looks at Keith and Stephanie, “I need to take a look at this Borg Demon.”
The Ravens shrug and lead the way. Down a few levels they enter a drone regeneration bay. At each unit a Borg security drone stood in regenerative stasis. With all the recent commotion there were lines at some units as number of drones exceeds the units. Mecord wondered if that meant there had been some recent assimilation’s other than demons. Between two other drones was the demon Borg. Mecord sighed, it wasn’t the demon he was looking for.
“That little runt?” Keith said.
“It’s not _that_ little,” Stephanie peered closer, “Looks kinda’ familiar.”
“Yeah, we just killed a couple million upstairs.”
The hair on the back of Mecord’s neck stood on end, and his skin tingled with magic. Uh, oh. The elf swiped the legs from under Stephanie just as the Demon Borg fired a phaser at her head. Stephanie rolled away, while the other two Drones began firing as well. All three dove for cover.
The drone Mecord hid behind became animate, “Drone internal security compromised. Destroy and recycle.”
“Just shut up or do something!” Mecord fired two bolts from his crossbow. One found it’s mark. The drone did nothing. Blasted circuitry fouls the magic.
Keith and Stephanie dispatched the drones quickly. But the demon Borg was infecting several more by use of nanites. The room came alive with phaser fire as Borg fought Borg.
“Blasted statues out of my way!” Mec ducked under a phaser blast and drew his sword. A brief glimpse told him that the Ravens were also locked in hand to hand combat. A dismembered torso with one arm tripped the elf and a drone with a wicked looking arm attachment approached. Lopping off the snare, Mec impaled the drone. A magical burst hurled the drone across the room clearing a path… to the demon. No, demons, plural. Rising from the Borg demon was an almost imperceptible outline of a larger demon. It must have possessed the Borg demon to gain control of station security.
The Borg demon(s) were entering a regeneration unit. What if it can infect the collective from there? One chance… isn’t it usually that way? Mecord Loads a dimensional disrupter bolt into his crossbow (normally a non-lethal yet painful spell, for a demon caught between dimensions it could be fatal). The corridor was closing, now or never. Mecord felt a pin prick in his neck as he fired. The bolt glanced off a struggling drone. Instead of hitting the Borg demon, the shot glanced into the shadow above it. An unearthly scream pierced the minds of all in the room, momentarily stunning the Borg mind collective from sensory overload. It stunned Mecord most of all. Not only was he sensitive to the dimensional rift and the psionic blast, but the Borg mind intruding his consciousness put him into a convulsive shock.
Keith beheaded the drone that had injected the Nanites into the elf, “Better get someone down here quick.”

**End RP, end Post**

Mecord
Resident, O.f., Insanity
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 04:47:29 PM
IP: usr53.mtwest.net

Does anyone know when new episodes are going to air? I need my weekly Gargoyles fix!

Trinkulus

Trinkulus - [sinister109@hotmail.com]
Kansas City, KS, USA
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:53:49 PM
IP: mgr6668.reshall.ksu.edu

Xanathar and Fleur- Congrats you two! Gee, how many couples has this fandom brought together now? Quite a few I think, me and my fair lady Heather included... And then there's Coyote and Mara... Kiaoto and Lexy... And Green Baron certainley gets off a lot of flirting...

Though I do wonder about your phrasing... "And then finally last week we both fell in love with each other"... Anyway, best of luck to both of ya. 8)

Robby
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:35:14 AM
IP: spider-we064.proxy.aol.com

Ak! posted ahead of time! lemme finish!!!

Mandoline> *LOL* Thanx! Its funny how you guys are actualy taking me seriously about this! :P

Lexy> <<*bangs head repeatedly on wall*>> Hey! Between you and Alex danging their heads on walls we wont have any walls leaft to call a comment room! ...but please, dont let me stop you! :P

BUFFY> OK, It was a pretty good ep, I enjoyed it and am ancious to know what happens next, but I was kindda looking forward to knowing what was going on with Adam and Tara...It was good tho...

ANGEL> Can I just say that I finaly got around to readying Interview with a vampire and all the flash backs remind me of it more than should! :P All in all it was good as well, tho why they must torture me by giving Hero this wednsday isd beyond me....I miss Doyle!!!!...oh, and Angel look BAD with long hair...real BAD... Ok, thats all I have to say about that! :P

I gotta go! Late! Bye!

Caliope
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:31:50 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

Hey-lo!

Mara> I know what you mean about the heroine being so sculpural. I mean, when I draw, i trie to make them look a little more realistic, but our conceptions are so srewed up that the just dont look "right"....at least my heroins have hips, I`d just feel bad about myself if they didnt! :P

Archwolf> <<Nice to meetcha...agian. Yout STILL have to surrender your sanity.>>...hun, I never had any to begin with! But here, *hands him a can* take my artificial sanity substitute in a can! :P




Caliope
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:13:00 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

RODLOX - Hakon and an anonymous Viking do call the gargoyles "gargoyles" at the very beginning of "Awakening Part One". Here's a transcription of the relevant dialogue from memory.

ANONYMOUS VIKING: Attacking a castle full of gargoyles before nightfall.

and:

HAKON: I say that those gargoyles are naught but chiseled stone!

So the Vikings do use the word "gargoyles" (although only in these two examples, as far as I can recall).

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: The first of the "Faith returns" two-parter. My suspicion is that at the end of Part One, Faith has used the object that the Mayor left for her to do a body switch with Buffy, particularly from the facial expressions of both girls at the end ("Faith" appearing shocked, "Buffy" with a certain sneaky smile). It will be interesting to see how it plays out next week. I'm also hoping to find out more about the nurse and her mysterious contacts, the men with briefcases who came in the helicopter. Are they from the Council? The one who spoke definitely knows Giles - I wasn't certain from the brief glance that I got of him whether he's Giles's old rival (the one whose name I forget - I think it was Everett, but can't be certain). While it's hard to judge a two-parter by simply the first part, this one looks promising.

ANGEL: I rather liked this one. The flashback scenes to Angel's becoming a vampire in 18th century Ireland and his conflict with his father seemed nicely done to me, and the foreground story about Kate's father getting pulled into a "demon drug" smuggling ring likewise; I particularly liked the bit about Angel being unable to save Lockley from the vampires because he wasn't invited in, frantically throwing himself at the invisible barrier in the doorway again and again.

* SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:11:07 AM
IP: 216.87.46.35.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hi all!!

It's been a while since I've been in here but it's been for a very important reason and I have an announcement to make...

Since july last year Fleur and I have been chatting regularly through email and over the months we grew very close,and finally last week we both fell in love with each other(Were going on our first official date this Sunday:) ),I've never been so happy in all my life,I care about her more than words alone can say,*Kisses Fleur passionately*I LOVE HER!!:)


See you all later my friends,I hope that you are all as happy as I am now*Hugs everyone*

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 07:04:56 AM
IP: melnc01.bigpond.com

...
Anonymous
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 06:12:10 AM
IP: h213-20-17.mi2.albacom.net

[Wilek staggers in, looking like he just lost a fight with a kodiak bear.] Eegah, what a day...<sigh> I'll post tommorrow. For now, I'll simply leave a link to the Cthulhu Project I mentioned...found it somewhere, saved it to my hard disk, then forgot where I found it, so I just uploaded it to my web space...[Wilek falls asleep standing up; someone leads him to the nice comfy recliner in the corner.]
Wilek - [<--The Cthulhu Project]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 02:22:18 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Rodlox-I think Haakon refered to Gargoyles mostly as "monsters" and "beasts". Remember the last thing he said to Goliath inside castle Wyvern was: "This isn't over monster!" Hope that helps

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 02:17:37 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net


in the early eps {not the ghost one}, did Haakon {or any other Viking} refer to the Gargoyles as gargoyles? did he just call them "beasts", and such?

it's important for a fanfic i'm writing ATM {at this moment}.

thanks.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 01:16:14 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Todd> Have you seen the film The Flight of Dragons? A little cheesy, but still good.

Siren> I'm way ahead of you. I've been keeping the exact same system for a year now, but I only print my favorite eps cause I can't pay for all the freakin lot of paper and ink it would take. Go for it!

SOROW
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 01:14:31 AM
IP: dll2a010-0101.splitrock.net

does any one know if Vin Diesel has a webb page? If so please share.
ms. R&R - [ljr_beks@bc.sympatico.ca]
port moody, cana
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:57:15 AM
IP: vanc06m05-132.bctel.ca

Quick notes: New mp3: Last time it was the Maple leaf Rag, now a song about the land of the maple leaf. Stan Rogers, Northwest Passage. (Warning: good acapella)
Other directory news: 2 new pieces of art by my brother. One ad that he was payed for, and a business card that I edited to give his correct number (and yes, the guy with hammers coming out of his head *is* throwing up his intestines).

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:31:52 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Hiyas! How is everyone doin! Anyone see Buffy? I mean, WTF?!
Samira - [Xtcravr83@aol.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:56:37 PM
IP: spider-to077.proxy.aol.com

Absolute last chance for AvMists next issue! ; )

Fossils > I chose to make them crumble away upon death, to explain the lack of a fossil record ... even though when death was depicted in the show (Broadway's final scene in Future Tense, for example), it didn't go that way. It just made a certain amount of sense to me, death being the ultimate sleep.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:50:57 PM
IP: 08-166.009.popsite.net

Rodlox- You were wondering how no gargoyle fossils were found. Well, to make a fossil is very difficult process requiring the right environment and weather as well as good timing and luck. I took an archaeology class this past semester, and the truth is that only the tiniest fraction of the fossil record can be accounted for. There are just so many species that didn't live in environments good for fossilization. And then there are only so many places people can dig with the expansion of the human race's population.
Mr. Thrugg
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:31:29 PM
IP: pbd0078.urh.uiuc.edu

Random thought: Is Gargoyle DNA Double Helical, or Triple, like Anne McAffery's Drongs (pern)?
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:56:27 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Spike- You originated the dirty tail trick? Huh. I honestly did not know that. Just goes to show, ya learn something every day...

Shadowrider- I think everyone who discovers TGS does their best to read as much of it as fast and as soon as they can, because honestly, its pretty durned good.

As to favorite characters... Well, it used to be Brooklyn, Lexington, and Vinnie, the pie gun toting guy, but over time I've developed quite a liking for Maggie Reed, Talon, and Griff. While working for TGS season 3 though, I've developed quite a few new favorites in the course of trying to develop previously under-develeoped characters. Unfortunatley, I can't quite disclose who they are at this point, for obvious reasons...

Kaioto- Hope your computer problems clear up soon...

Robby
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 09:44:23 PM
IP: spider-to041.proxy.aol.com

Rodlox><<maybe the [more] extreme variations from the gargoyle "norm" are the mules. {sorry to Lex, Brooklyn, and maybe Broadway}.>>I'm not sure I buy this. I think the 'departure from the norm' is a survival trait. A species that is as vulnerable as gargoyles during the day needs some variation, in order to try to scare of those who might do them harm during the day. Also, if you follow the 'form follows function' train of thought, the variations make a lot of sense. Gargoyles appear to be a warrior race. Doesn't it make sense that there are major and minor variations for different tasks? Lex: While he is not physically imposing, he is a very skilled warrior. His small size and web wings cut donw on air resistance, making him the fastest around. Great for scouting and shadowing. He is also the most clever and adaptive: Great for geurilla type actions. Brooklyn: As said in 'Dishonor' (Timedancer season 1) those like him are the first to be called demon: morale breaker. He is also a strong warrior, as well as cool headed (i know, it is an idividual trait) Broadway, Goliath, Hudson and the rest, strong warriors, more human looking, great for human relations. The different horns, crests, and the like may make better flight control, or extra weapons in a battle, or just plain intimidation factor.

Warpmind><<You *did* see "Eye of the beholder", right? ;) >> *blinks stupidly* damn..that was one of my favorite episodes, and i forgot about it....still, it was holloween, and the delerium doedn't work on halloween, so, results were skewed. whatever.

Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 09:41:59 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Gside: Thanks for the idea, but it looks like you were right about that site's problems. :( It won't download for more than five minutes and the file I want to get is gonna take a lot more than that. <mutters> Oh well, there are other ways, right? :) Thanks anyway.
Doug
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 09:30:18 PM
IP: pool-207-205-234-150.dlls.grid.net


Shadowrider: true enough! to quote from Discover Magazine {June 1997}: "Very few people - even trained paleontologists - have a search image for a bird that's six feet tall...Some of the elements were so big they had been identified as horse."

so, maybe we've found fossils, but didn't associate them together? {apart from Perytons, how many things have wings _and_ hooves?}. after all, most fossil species are known from partial skeletons.....

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 08:56:58 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

redlox:>why no gargoyles fossils?Well,if a gargoyle turns to stone while "sleeps",maybe does the same as he dies (as the sun rises on a dead gargoyle,it turns to stone and never changes back into flesh-it's an hypothesis);in time,the statue remaining erodes into fragments that are so similar to naturally-formed stone debris to be undisguisable.Maybe there's plenty of gargoyles fossils-they just seem pebbles.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 08:44:32 PM
IP: h255-22-206.mi2.albacom.net


# of limbs: actually both the sharks and celocanths {extant siblings of the proto-amphibians} have _3_ pairs of limbs - not 2. the quesiton now becomes: how did the gargoyle lineage survive so long without us finding fossils?

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 08:36:08 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com


you asked what it's called when fetal development repeats evolutionary development, right? here it is:

"Ontogeny Recapulates Phylogeny" {my spelling may be a bit off though - fair warning}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 08:33:06 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com


Topic: Garg Limbs, Mules, etc...

1) while a tail is not a true limb, it can be used as one {prehensile tails of spider monkeys}....and trunks also fit into this category {elephants and tapirs}.

2) i was going to post this in reply to the comment about one gargess(sp?) having a double-pair of wings: frogs in polluted waters sometimes have a second pair of hind legs {or just a 5th leg, which is a copy of one of hte hind legs}. but that begs the question: once the extra limbs developed in the proto-gargoyles, what sort of conditions would support the retention of them?

3) why do gargoyles {Goliath} stand like humans? not only do they have tails {heavy counterbalance}, but they've also got large flight muscles....the posture Brooklyn had in the early eps was plausible {a chimp/gorilla-like leaning}.

4) 'high incidence of mules'....maybe they do. maybe the [more] extreme variations from the gargoyle "norm" are the mules. {sorry to Lex, Brooklyn, and maybe Broadway}.

5) is Bronx in the same species as Broadway? {or is that a paralel development in terms of the heads}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 08:30:32 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Doug> Knights of Xentar: Try http://www.plasticman.org/hentai/ (watch out, they just redesigned and it doesn't seem to like Netscape) That is, if you don't mind taking a shady way out.

Mara> <<you should kiss the kneecaps of whomever made it possible for you>>: That would most likely be Muffin, Dean of the General Honors Program here at RU.

Siren> TGS system: What about the good old monitor? Of course, I am an engineer, and don't actually mind the CRT's radiation (or the LCD screen)

Mandolin> <<Ring Dinner>>: "Nine for mortal men doomed to die,"

Warpmind> <<Imagine having [a Cray] for Doom 2 Deathmatch>>: Eh, with modern standards of system performance, the only real problem there is ping. Now, a Cray would probably start getting usefull with Tribes, Half Live, Q3A,...

CSH> Random question: Will the round robins be collated somewhere on the web for future reference?

Shadowrider> <<You are right as you say that lack of physical variation is more normal than its presence>>: That can't be good for a species. That would mean that there would have to be an incredible variation in chromosomes (I don't think a snake tail would take the same space as a pair of legs). That would make breeding difficult. If less than 98% of chrommosomes are similar, interbreeding is impossible (data taken from chimpanzees and us). With such a varying of characteristics, I find it amazing that they do not produce more mules. Of course, being an english or art major makes creating all this neat stuff easier...

Mr. Toman> <<he human tail is readily apparent in a developing fetus>>: Feti also have gills at one point. What is that theory called? The mirroring of evolution in gestation, I mean.
<<No animal alive today or that ever lived ever had more than four limbs>>: What about crustations and arachnids? Of course, you were referring to those with endoskeletons. (Are crustations, etc. in cordata?)

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:19:29 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

PATRICK TOMAN - Have you ever read "The Flight of Dragons" by Peter Dickinson? It made a similar comment about dragons having six limbs (four legs and two wings) even though vertebrates only have four, and the puzzlement of it. Dickinson offered the solution that dragon wings were actually developed from the rib-cage. (Well, it's been a while since I read it, but that's the basic of it). Whether that's the way it is with gargoyles or not it's hard to say.

(Lexington, of course, has those wings attached to his arms, which makes his case somewhat simpler).

"The Flight of Dragons", by the way, is a fascinating book which offers a possible explanation for how dragons could have existed - Dickinson imagines them as living blimps. Dragons, in his interpretation, are filled with a flamable gas that makes them lighter than air, allowing them to get off the ground and fly. They breathe fire as a means of burning off the excess gas. They collected gold for their hoards because gold is soft and could resist the side-effects of the metabolic processes within the dragons that manufactured that gas, which rendered everything else around them waste. And more to that effect. (I know that Gorebash has read that book and is quite enthusiastic about it).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:08:10 PM
IP: 216.87.46.176.dialup-stl.primary.net

Random ramblings on biology...

The head is not a limb. Tails aren't limbs, either, they're tails... their skeletal structure is an actual continuation of the spine.

All animals (birds, mammals, reptiles, and amphibians) have tails or, like humans, the vestigial remains of them. In humans, all that remains of the tails our primate ancestors had are the tail bones... but the human tail is readily apparent in a developing fetus. It disappears as the unborn baby develops... though, as someone already stated, in rare cases sometimes not entirely by the time of birth.

Limbs are defined as arms, legs, or wings. No animal alive today or that ever lived ever had more than four limbs. That makes gargoyles an evolutionary quandry... they have SIX. Every other animal that ever took to the air evolved its wings from its forelimbs, or arms. Gargoyles either evolved an entirely new set of limbs entirely... or they descended from an entirely different evolutionary line than the one that gave rise to amphibians and reptiles and, eventually, mammals and birds.

Now there's something to ponder.

Patrick Toman
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 06:53:57 PM
IP: abdbb8c9.ipt.aol.com

Hi ya'll. I'm kind of bummed. My huge, really interesting post on Demona's personality just had time to generate two comments before last week's Comment room crashed, and I don't remember exactly what I wrote, or what those people said. (I'll try to remember to save my Obnoxiously Long Posts somewhere from now on).

Anyway, on to a couple of comments>
Kaito> sorry to hear about your laptop. Glad you're OK.
Shadowrider> welcome to the room. Hope you enjoy your stay.

I feel like there's something else I should take care of, but I can't remember what it is right now. Oh well, see ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 05:44:23 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Lexy>> Not to worry.... we plan to log the chat in it's entirety and post it on the Reunion site. Greg wants a copy on the "Ask Greg" page as well.

If anyone would like to ask a question to our Pros and aren't sure you can make it to the chat, you can always post your questions to the Reunion main bulletin board and we can ask them for you. We're only limited by the amount of time our guests can stay.
Spike
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 04:40:52 PM
IP: pppt04-231.ght.iadfw.net

Warpmind: It would be great if you could do that, but don't if it's inconvienent. Thanks either way. :)
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 03:21:15 PM
IP: pool-209-138-213-212.dlls.grid.net

This just totally RIPS!!! The ONE day out of the week that I am busy with class at night, The ONE day out of the week that class lasts 2 hours instead of one, the ONE day out of the sememster she says, "Do _NOT_ miss this class, I will be telling you what is on the mid and then we will have it next class." AHH GEEZ the ONE TIME!! and It had to be over the pros chat??? *bangs head repeatedly on wall* man..

Hey is anyone going to cut and paste any of this chat??
Geez..

It starts at 7 comp time right? and probably will end at the latest at 10? If that is so then that gives me at least an hour to talk..hmm

What _are_ the hours till? I know it starts at 7..but..

Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:45:05 PM
IP: abd9a84e.ipt.aol.com


Jannie:>I visited your site.Impressive,indeed.Found a lot of news on G2K.Thank you for suggestion.Is anyone around here thinking about attending?Hey,I'm seriously thinking about it-and I am a little farther than a lot of you...

Warpmind:>Are you saying that in Norway Gargoyles has NEVER been broadcasted?Geez,I belived Norway to be a civilized country (I'm joking,naturally;I've never been in Norway,But I always wanted to visit it-possibly with my bike);in Italy we are strange about many things,but RAI (Italian public television) broadcasted the first two series a couple of times each (with an atrocious dubbing,by the way).Anyway,I'm glad to see that there's someone else connecting from far away just to meet a little Gargoyle-concerned people.
Do you think you are an obsessive fan?A dear friend of mine (I told him of this site,so you'd meet him soon enough-watch for a LordXanatos Nickname) lately begun,at dawn,to paint his own body of grey,wear a loincloth and then spend the hours of light standing frozen in an aggressive posture on his home's roof.;-) (I'm joking again!Well,almost...)

Female gargoyles (and non) appearance-again:>Selanit:>(are you a "he" or a "she"?) You are right as you say that lack of physical variation is more normal than its presence,but it seems not apply to the gargoyles:in fact,the single common trait between them seems to be...the absence of common traits!Even the number of limbs is not constant.In spite of it,while recurring male characters show a wide variety of traits (beaks,web-like wings,etc) as well as secondary characters,female recurring characters seem to be chosen between the most human-looking gargoyles on hand.Why this?The single answer coming to my mind is a classic one,imported directly from the comic books of the X-men (and others):That's why screenwriters are sexual-reprexed sexists!;)

To everyone:>I discovered the existence of someting called TGS just a couple of weeks ago I've been reading all the novels I could ,often standing till 5 A.M..By now I've read almost all the first seasons both of Gargoyles and of Timedancer.Did anyone around do the same?I'd like to hear some opinions about it.

To everyone (again):>Of the recurring characters in Gargoyles and TGS (including the spin-offs),who are your preferred ones?

To everyone (again??!!!!):>I noticed there's a sort of RPG running in this room.How does it work?

Bye.



Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:44:43 PM
IP: h255-20-63.mi2.albacom.net

Doug, Wilek, Jannie and everyone else: Thank you kindly for your prayers and well-wishes.

My situation is a strange one. I really … don't feel angry … don't feel betrayed … don't feel much of anything …. Something has changed … and I accept that. I have someone to blame, obviously … but my own stupidity played such an undeniable role in all this.

All in all, I have the strangest feeling of gratitude when I wake up in the morning … it was just a possession - my most expensive possession - but a possession none the less. Sure, it will be very difficult to replace, but my network of friends and family have made used-ThinkPad hunting a little less stressful than it could be.

Mostly, if I'm stuck laying awake at night, starting to feel sorry for myself, I think about the things that would REALLY matter if I lost them, situations where I'd really be in trouble, hip-deep. I think about what could've been if I didn't have such a supportive family, both of relatives and of friends. I think about how much better off I am having lost a mere computer, while I have friends who have lost parents. I think about how happy I am that even if my relationship with Liz-chan is yet again interrupted by comp-problems. I'm much happier it was the computer that was lost, and not the most wonderful girl in the world.

All in all, I can't say that I'm overly traumatized by the whole thing. I'm certainly annoyed, and I'll be working pretty hard to pay for whatever it takes to replace this computer. But it just isn't eating at me.

The worst of it is being separated from all of you, a community I value my membership in. I regret not having enough time to participate in the RP or any of the lively discussions that have made each day anything but dull.

Still, I've got work enough to keep me busy for a while, you know? I've got to finish changing all my passwords of my online services … at least they can't use my internet access account … But I need to re-password ICQ still … I've already addressed AOL IM … and next is my Yahoo account …

I'll keep you all posted.

Selanit: Hey, another reader of "Uhura's Song." Loved that book for various reasons. Kind of funny how last time I checked, none of those books are canon though. That's a LOT of published fan-fic there … Kinda inspirational, really.

Laters folks. Be well.


Toku Kaioto - [-The Happy Wanderer]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:14:22 PM
IP: 141.133.117.62

REUNION NEWS:

Tuesday -- Tonight we're having the Rapidfire Round Robin fanfic session! The sign-up is on the main Reunion Bulletin Board so sign up now for your spot! If you've never done a round robin session, it's very simple -- you start a story with one sentence and then each person adds onto it until you have a completed story. OUR story begins with this line: "Elisa Maza was having a very bad day."

WEDNESDAY: This is the one we've been waiting for -- the "Talk to the Pros" chat. We have nine guests coming and you can read about some of them here <CLICK!> on our Bios page. This will be a little different chat than many of you are used to -- we will have a moderator who will monitor the chat; if you wish to ask our guests a question (there is a limit of two (2) questions per person), you will need to sign up with Leva prior to the chat and submit your questions. We will be screening the questions, mostly to make sure there are no duplicates.

We do ask that you try to ask questions to more than just one person if possible. (Ask Greg is around all the time; when was the last time you got to ask Steve Perry or Michael Reaves a question?)In corresponding with our guests, I learned a lot of interesting things. Bruce Cranston, Greg's boss during Gargoyles, helped push through a lot of controversial eps like "Deadly Force" and other subjects that hadn't been dealt with before in an animated series -- why not ask him what that was like, going head-to-head with the execs on that?

Robby>> Oh, fine... bring the dirty tail trick up again.... *rolls eyes* This bodes ill for that proposed Adult Round Robin at the Reunion.....

Spike
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:05:27 PM
IP: pppt13-145.ght.iadfw.net

*Warpmind enters, a little grumpy, and hands DC a card reading "Mene, mene, tekel ufarsin".*
Right. If DC can decipher that one... >:)

Archwolf: Delirium and Gargoyles characters: You *did* see "Eye of the beholder", right? ;)

Wilek: True, we insane guys are more adaptable, but I suspect the delirium thingie *may* be related to a PSI shock, rather than mere surprise. Think about it: werewolves are shapeshifters. Does it seem all that improbable that the shapeshifting process releases a blast of magical energy? And as for the FF series, well, the first game was for the original 8-bit Nintendo... 'nuff said. ;)

Mara: Good question. I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you, though. :(

Pistoff: True, the female gargoyles all look kinda like supermodels with extra extremities. And you complain? Be careful, or we might have to add you to the Joyride list. ;) (By the way, why have you others kept off the Joyride for so long? Unless I miss my mark, I was the last to Joyride someone.)

Gside: Dude, I'm already looking into one of them neat Origin 2000 Cray machines. They are claimed to produce 59 Decibels of noise, mostly from the cooling system. Imagine having one of those babies for Doom 2 Deathmatch! ;)

Hiya, Shadowrider. Welcome to the looney-bin; please hand your sanity over to Deuce or Robby. Me, I'm from Norway, and we never even had the show, so I had to import it privately from Norway, and I believe that qualifies me as further up on the "obsessive fan"-scale than you. ;)

Mecord: Frankenstein's "monster" and Demona have nothing in common. Demona is mentally unstable to begin with, while Frankenstein's creation is driven to crime, so to speak. And the big difference there is that Frankenstein's creature actually regrets his actions.

Doug: If you want, I can sneak up a copy of KoX to be hidden on my site. After all, if you already paid for it, you should be legally in the clear. :)

Todd: Cthulhu: Yeah, the scary bit wasn't that Cthulhu was evil (damn such misconceptions), but that he was so alien. To him, humans *were* less than nothing, even as an entire species. Well, less than nothing might be a bit harsh; he probably could appreciate us as a snack. ;)

Robby: I believe "the dirty tail trick" was first mentioned by Spike. It seems quite popular with all the females of fandom, though. ;)

Well, my mother is bothering me for control of the computer, so no RP now. :(

Later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:42:16 PM
IP: mp-217-218-47.daxnet.no

**stumbles in** Gaah, I hate that just-about-to-become-a-cold sinus pressure that hangs on. Being sick is not fun. (Cue Dr. Evil sound clip: "Sick as a dog.")

Robby> Spike, I believe, is the originator of the "dirty tail trick." :)

Still have to watch my tape of X-Files all the way through. That'll have to wait till the SisterHood of Evil's taped episode marathon Friday night. (I'm bringing the X-Files ep, Buffy and Now and Again episodes, Michelle's got ReBoot Season Three, Jen has Farscape, Debbie has the Monty Python tapes, and Ruth has Jack of All Trades and will probably try to get us to watch her Smackdown tapes. I'm making them all watch this week's N&A ep just because it was so well done. Would you believe the snow in that next-to-last scene wasn't planned at all - it was really snowing like that when they shot it?)

Where I've been> A couple of people are probably wondering why I haven't responded to them. Here are my reasons:

1) Since Dr. Sereno can't explain anything (and Microsoft Works is a true oxymoron), my Modeling/Simulation homework took me a total of 14 hours of work.
2) Sick as a dog. (See above.)
3) Had a prospective student staying over Sunday night - which is why I kind of vanished from the reunion chat.

G2K> I'll think about it after Ring Dinner comes and goes. (I get my class ring Friday. Finally.)

Selanit> Long time no see! **blinks** Anglo-Saxon seminar? Ye gods, I'm having enough headaches with a straight undergraduate English seminar course. You have my utmost respect. :)

Cali> Welcome!

Siren> Hmm, that's a pretty cool system.

Must read "As You Like It" before class... later, all... **Mandi stumbles out**

Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:25:23 PM
IP: 144.175.20.22

*Stumbles into the CR and tosses a heavy backpack to the floor* I hate going to classs on 1 hour's sleep. And I have a few hours of fencing practice today, so I can't get a nap.*stretches and yawns*

Green Baron>Unfortunatley, I went to a public HS, so nothing would have been done, especially since this teacher was the head of the history department. I got detention because i was not totaly in control of my temper and spat on the flor at her feet...and calling her a stupid orange pig probably didn't help any either. If you have not read the book Trinity, give it a go. Good book.

Cali> Nice to meetcha...agian. Yout STILL have to surrender your sanity.

ShadowRider> Hey, welcome aboard. the more fans, the merrier. As for your sanity, well, I guess that has been covered already, huh?

Wilek Nerus><<Every time I see Cloud speak, the voice is familiar but I can't place the name>>My self, i keep hearing either Brooklyn's voice, or that of Matrix from Reboot.

G2K> Well, my 'rents haven't said no yet, just we'll think about it, which means they won't decide one way or another untill AFTER the Gathering. (All i asked was to borrow the car to drive down from pittsburgh. It's not as if i asked them to _fund_ the trip as well)

***RP*****
Archwolf had his back pressed against the bulkhead outside of the chapel. He could not belive what had just happend. 5 girls in catholic school garb and a talking cat had just shot a gaurd with a rosary. "War Frost, life just keeps getting stranger by the second." He felt all of a sudden like he was in a bad 'Japanime' series. When he was sure the shooting was over, he carefuly went into the chapel, and before the remaining gaurds could stop him, he took his pistol from the downed gaurd. He looked at the people in the room with an inocent expression. "Hey, you guys have security problems. I don't care to much for the idea of walking around unarmed and vulnerable. Now, gimme back m'rifle." When he got it back, he felt relived. This rifle was his first fetish, bound with spirits that actually prevented muzzle flash and made the weapon totaly silent. He checked the pistol to make sure it was loaded but safe, then did the same for the rifel. The security gaurd who had gone to a comm pannel came back to the group. "Some of the Ravens are on their way, so just sit down and wait." Archwolf was ready to do just as he was told, but the way War Frost was acting made him a bit nervous. The great dire wolf was facing the chapel entrance, with his ears back and his hackles up, his eyes searching for the threat he could feel. Great time to be without my klaive, Archwolf thought. Hope the reinforcemnts show up soon.
***End RP***

Sheade and Sweet water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:29:59 AM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Jannie & Doug- Hope you all will enjoy it!! ^_^

Shauntell- glad you liked it sweetie- sent you an em!

Regarding garg females- I myself like a lot of varitey in my own fanfics- I have Kali and Shiva- both who have four arms and three eyes. Nagita is a minor character who has the lower body of a serpent- Loth has the body of a spider and the 8 arms aswell-- there are also some Atlantians that are going to make an appearance that have many characteristics of fish -- like the coloring and spines. I also have gargoyle "furrys"

I don't mind the long flowing hair in the gargoyle females- I like long hair- just a personal prefrance- I have noticed that the males do have bigger ears- and the females have more eye ridges- I think this was done to make them look more "feminine" by drawing more attention to the eyes. I love the Deliah/Demona eye ridge- I think it looks so exotic.

as for Frankenstien-- gosh I read that years ago-- It reminded me alot of Goliath. The intellect, the coloring- all there.

jenna aka Cairo of Clan SteelClaw
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:29:47 AM
IP: ppp-216-62-142-89.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

On tails being prehensile- I seem to recall one particular fic author or another came up with a certain thing which has been widely adopted since, and is called "The dirty tail trick"...
Robby
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:40:38 AM
IP: spider-tm011.proxy.aol.com

Gargoyle appearances:
Wilek> I stand corrected -- Leo, Una and Griff certainly were furred. And feathered to boot, in Griff and Una's case.

<<I always thought proper 'limbs' were appendages with skeletal structures that branched out from the spine instead of being part of it like the tail is>>

A tail most certainly is a "skeletal appendage" which branches out from the spine. More so than legs, which attach to the pelvis, or arms, which attach to the scapulae.

2) By your definition, yes, the head certainly could be considered a limb. However, the word "limb" also conveys that the appendage's primary purpose is for grasping, bashing, or otherwise manipulating the environment surrounding the person. Certainly one could use the head for grasping (har har, little pun), or bashing (ouch), or even standing; but that is not its *primary* function.

A tail, however, may be used to affect one's balance. Take cats, who according to tradition "always land on their feet." Slow motion videos of falling felines show that they use their tail as a counterweight to help maneuver their legs into a good landing position very quickly. (I saw that on the Discovery Channel. <grin>) A gargoyle makes similar use of it, hence their fantastic agility. The same principle applies to making sharp turns mid-air that applies to twisting one's body around to land properly.

A prehensile tail would be even more useful, providing an extra measure of security to a species which spends much of its time in high places. In an intelligent, tool-using species such as the gargoyles, a prehensile tail would be even more invaluable. How many times have *you* needed a third hand? For an excellent book involving an intelligent species with prehensile tails, I refer you to _Uhura's Song_, a novel set in the universe of classic Star Trek. Pay attention to Bright-Spot's use of her tail, and the expressions and idioms used by the species.

To sum up this part, I would submit this definition of "limb":

"An appendage whose primary function is to allow a creature to manipulate or make use of its environment."

Back to female gargoyles appearance:
Shadowrider> Good point. The most wildly variant females tend to be extras and bit-pieces. However, I would still point out that Demona, possibly the largest female gargoyle role in the show, has a sort of crest. *Most* of the female gargoyles we've seen have had horns or a crest of some sort -- EG Demona, Angela, Desdemona, Una, the Amazonian gargoyles, and the others. Males, on the other hand, tend toward smooth craniums lacking horns, but with more pronounced ears.

In one respect, the lack of physical variation among females is more normal than its presence among males. One would expect that a species would display a fairly narrow range of variation. Certainly we, humans, have a narrow spectrum of physical types. Your standard human has 2 legs, 2 arms, a head, eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and cranial hair. Certainly there are many small differences according to region and ancestry, and these are to be expected. Seen as a whole, though, we have little variation. We, as a species, do not have tails. About one in a hundred thousand people *are* born with tails, but such a small number is statistically insignificant compared to the vast majority. (The tails are usually removed.) Show me a region where the norm is to be born with a tail, and I will show you a new sub-species of homo sapiens.

Ah, I seem to have wandered from the topic. Ah, well. Digressions are great fun.

Well, I'm off. I've an Anglo-Saxon seminar shortly, so I suppose I'd better do some reading. Remember, Þa cyning ymb-sæton Eidyn-burh. <grin>

Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:18:31 AM
IP: leicester.lancs.ac.uk

I am not sure who else might have thought of this if anyone, but just a suggestion to make it easier to keep up with TGS and read old eps...
I got a 3 ring binder (i have a white Avery one), the one you can slip a piece of paper in the front and back to design your own cover, a 3 hole puncher, those little stickers to keep the holes from tearing, and lots of paper and ink. I print one or two stories up a day, and slowly add them to the binder. I took a pic of Goliath, one of the more dramitic ones from those postcards and posters and using one of my appications, used the Gargoyles text and wrote what part of the Saga was in it (Gargoyles, Pendragon, etc) and what season. I am going to get a different binder and cover for each of the Sagas and seasons. I shall have many binders, but it will be my own private collection, to read when I want, without having to connect or search through old ones that I might have printed. It just looks real awesome! And it's great for someone without a lot of time on their hands. Just print it and read it later, and you'll always know where to look for it. And it's good for friends who might want to read the story, but don't have net access. I only just started Seaons 1 of Gargs, I hope within the next few months, I shall be caught up. The binder is about $3, the hole puncher $5, and the stickers I got 675 for $2.

Siren
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:06:27 AM
IP: host-216-76-218-138.dab.bellsouth.net

GSIDE:::Oh, and is $50 a good price for Rent (including show, transportation, and dinner)?

I think for that price you should kiss the kneecaps of whomever made it possible for you... *drools in jealousy*

*wipes drool off of face* As for female gargole variation... it is a lil eerie that for the most part their eyecandy. But I suppose it goes with the unwritten rule in entertainment that to be a heroine, a genius or something really cool you have to be hot and hve a size negative 1 waist.
Mara
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 09:51:07 AM
IP: spider-wl013.proxy.aol.com

Wilek: $ Only the creativity kind of demon on my part. :) Whichever kind of real demon the new Borg critter is is up to you. $

More later.

Doug
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 09:31:18 AM
IP: pool-209-138-213-128.dlls.grid.net

Ak! I still dont remember what or to whom I was talking to!

So I guess I'll have to start over!

Hello, my name is Cali, nice to meet you all! :P hehehe

I gotta go, see ya guys!

Caliope
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:38:02 AM
IP: 136.145.83.241

ummm pretend my previous post was in blue ;)

*whimpers* I wanna' go back to bed.... *yawns*

Jannie
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:32:35 AM
IP: 141.198.1.4

ShadowRider> click on my name for the Gathering 2000 homepage. It should answer most of the formal questions you might have concerning the G2K :)
Also, another place to chat that is also gargoyle based is the Mini Clan. http://www.miniclan.org/chat/miniclan
They do a lot of casual chatting, ocassional roleplaying, etc. www.miniclan.org is the homepage and will give you other links to the various chatrooms. Some are continuous role playing chatrooms and some have various "themes" to them.
I think that at last count there were approx. 17 Mini Clan members that will be attending G2K as well. =)

Wilek> *cringes and then grins* loved the Promised Deaths of the Mr. DC *cackles*
Jannie
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:31:02 AM
IP: 141.198.1.4

I'm back again!I begin sending many thanks to everyone has welcomed me (and to all the other people too).


Doug & Wilek Nereus:>don't worry about my sanity-I have a very good way to preserve my mind's integrity:I never use it! ;-)

Female Gargoyles appearance:> Well,I'm not sure.Certain secondary characters (VERY secondary if I refer to the females indistinctly seen in Avalon) have for sure weird appearances,but,as far as I can remember,all the recurring characters (Demona,Angela,Sata,Delilah...) vary from very good-looking to simply awesome! (I personally am not afraid of that ;-)) I also noticed that the same thing applies eve to the non-gargoyles females:strange...or maybe not...

Frankestein:>Well,there are for sure some correspondences between Frankestein's monster and some characters of Gargoyles,but I think it is not possible to identify the Creature with a single character:all of them are simply too complex to do that.

To everyone listening:>does anyone know anything about the Gathering 2000 (where,when,how,etc.)? I'd like to know something more than just "will happen this year or so".

Goodbye to all,see you around.

P.S. to everyone:>I apologise for my probable mistakes,both in using this comment room and in writing:as I said,I am a newbie on Internet and,furthermore,I'm far more used in reading English than writing it.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 06:10:53 AM
IP: h213-16-226.mi2.albacom.net

Just stopped in to repost since last weeks posts have disappeared.

My mother sent me this really cool file called Alien song. It's really funny, if you want to see tell me and I'll e-mail it to you. Warning: it may take a while to download depending on how fast your computer is.

Katara-Congrats Auntie Kat. :P

Jannie-Why do you ask the hard questions?;) (refering to all the questions you posted last week)

Wilek><<...Maul simply isn't the brightest bulb on the tree>> Oh yeah. He messed with Obi-won, got sliced in half. Simple.

Going to check out the Reunion.
See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:51:18 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

**AND NOW, THE PROMISED DEATHS**

[The skylight opens, and Chibi-Vega leaps in, holding Mr. Disconnect, who has been hogtied with barbed wire, and deposits him onto an unused table for later. A chibi bat flies in, holding Sli Sludge whose hands and feet have been cut off, sets him down next to DC, and turns into Chibi Alucard. Finally, Chibi Edea floats in amid a cloud of violet vapor, telekinetically holding the punk who took Kai's laptop, who is bound at the wrists and ankles with crystallized vapor, and puts him with the other two. All their bonds mystically vanish, thanks to a spell of Edea's, but they're too petrified to move. Wilek strides up to them with an insane grin. "Well, well, well. It would seem that we have...troublemakers...in our midst." He looks evilly at Mr. Disconnect. "Been to the Reunion, I see. Really, did you honestly think you could get away with sabotaging an event like this? I didn't think even you were *that* stupid. But we'll take care of that. Vega?" The Spanish ninja yells "¡SANGRE Y HONRA, MALVADA Y GLORIA!" and proceeds to flay off Mr. Disconnect's skin, inch by inch, before covering him with something from a vial at his belt. Wilek opens a small box, and several hundred pirahna beetles fly out (must have been a TARDIS box) and devour DC before flying back to their cage. All that's left is his skeleton. Wilek steps over to Sli Sludge. "And you. Why, oh, why do you *insist* on infecting people with your nasty little bugs and germs and the gods only know what else?" Sli: "It's a hobby of mine." Wilek: "Hobby. Ah. Well, let me introduce you to one of *my* hobbies. Al?" The dhambil takes one of Mr. Disconnect's now bare bones, sharpens it with his sword, and uses it to nail Sli's left wrist to the table. He repeats the process with DC's other bones and Sli's other wrist, ankles, and eyes. Finally, Alucard cuts off Sli's head with a butter knife. Wilek grins and saunters over to the laptop thief. "Now we come to you. Really, child; theft? Especially of something of such value and secrecy as a personal computer? That...was a tragic mistake. Edea?" The witch wipes up some of Sli's virus-riddled blood with her handkerchief, drips it into a vial, adds a few strange looking herbs and some of DC's blood, and casts a spell on the whole thing, turning it into a evil-looking glowing green potion, which she pours down the punk's throat. He immediately begins screaming, and after a few moments, we see why--hideous open sores are beginning to form all over his body, through which his inner tissues are beginning to force themselves. Over the course of a few minutes, he's turned completely inside out, a mostly empty skeleton lying in a puddle of its own mangled internal organs and blood, a wad of crushed skin lying in its ribcage. Just then, chibi-Wilek glides in. C-W: "What, leave me out of all the fun?" Wilek: "Of course I did, you twisted little freak; you know I don't trust you not to kill us all and destroy the CR just for fun." C-W: "Well I just wanted to finish off our playmates here." With that, he pours gasoline all over the three victims and tosses a match right in the middle of the gasoline soaked puddle of flesh, blood, and agony. It burns beautifully.]

**END**

Mara> <<what decade in US history might have had the most tolerance for gargoyles and the least tolerance. Why? Why not?>> Interesting...probably the most tolerance would be before there was even a United States, when only the Native American tribes occupied the land, because...I'm not sure, it just seems right. The least tolerance might be...I don't know, the 20s, thanks to the racism that was so prevalent back then? O_o I'm probably way off the mark here, though...

Pistoff> Welcome back! ^_^ <<I was coughing up fluorescent-green gunk, except for last night and today, when I started coughing up _dark_ green gunk. Maybe I'm getting to the gunk that's been down there a bit longer than the other stuff....>> >_< It's like the softly glowing Tupperware in the back of the fridge...

Green Baron> <<Lawrence Stone lives in Chillicothe. That's near you, I think.>> It is, if it's in Michigan. :P

Shadowrider> Welcome! :D Hand in your sanity with Deuce, and mind the rabid chibis...as for chatting, well, this is a comment room rather than a chat room. But there are nice chat rooms at the Reunion. ^_^

Doug> $A Borg demon? Intriguing...which one was it, exactly? I've kind of lost track <baffs self>. :}$ <<I agree with you about the Gameshark being a fantastic invention (too bad it doesn't always work for every game exactly the way you want it to. :(>> Ah yes...it was the only way I've ever been able to get anywhere in some of my games. :) As for it not working sometimes...ohh, have I encountered that. I have reason to believe that a faulty code was what was erasing my Final Fantasy 7 saves. I got rid of it; hope it was the problem...Oh, speaking of Gameshark and FF7, y'all have *got* to check my name link. This is just...*cool*. 8) <<Not sure who'd do the other roles, especially Sephiroth (you have any ideas?)>> Hm...For some reason, I see Jonathan Frakes as being on Shinra's board of directors, but I'm not sure who...Every time I see Cloud speak, the voice is familiar but I can't place the name...sounds a little like Goku from Dragon Ball Z, actually...Keith David would be a good voice for Red XIII...and Sephiroth...Alexander Siddig might be a good voice for him, but he doesn't have the look for it. :/

Selanit> <<On the other hand, we've never seen a furred gargoyle of any gender>> What about Griff, Leo, and Una? Or am I remembering them wrong? <<I choose to believe that gargoyle tails are prehensile, and therefore count as limbs.>> I always thought proper 'limbs' were appendages with skeletal structures that branched out from the spine instead of being part of it like the tail is (ie the head wouldn't count as a limb because it's part of the spine)?

Todd> <<For all that we know, in the TGS Universe, Lovecraft could have somehow gotten wind of their specimens in the Illuminati and used them for inspiration>> <evil chuckle> I *really* have to acquaint y'all with the Cthulhu Project...

**RP!**

[Near the chapel, the other guards look at the one of their number who was just stunned by the Scouts. "Great, we have a spy again..." Attila: "This has happened before?" Guard: "The old station had *awful* security problems, and even here we have to keep our eyes open..." The guard uses his padd to command the computer to beam the spy to the nearest brig, then comments, "We'd better tell Agent Rho about this..."]

**END RP!!**

Wilek Nereus - [<---FF7 Debug Room]
Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:53:31 AM
IP: tnt-1-429-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net

Hi everyone! I just got out of the Main Chat Reunion and wanted to stop by here before I go do a stupid Scarlet letter projet. I saw Wakko's Wish this afternoon and I actually cried because it was so sad! Who else watched it?

I'll end with something Mec just told me a moment ago...
"Parting is such sweet SOROW." Harharhar

SOROW
Monday, February 21, 2000 11:53:53 PM
IP: dll2a020-0621.splitrock.net

SHOGUN RAPTOR - Sorry for inconveniencing you like that. I can safely reveal to you that those three "Dragon's Stone" critters were indeed deliberately modeled after H. P. Lovecraft's infamous Cthulhu. To reveal why I made them look like Cthulhu is giving away too much, though. (Even saying that is giving away too much).

Cthulhu was Lovecraft's invention, of course (although I've heard it speculated that he might have had the Kraken in mind as a partial source). One popular misconception about Cthulhu I might as well clear up while I'm here (same as I did with "Frankenstein"); in Lovecraft's vision, Cthulhu, although dangerous to humans, wasn't actually evil. He was simply alien. In fact, the real horror about him wasn't what he could do to humanity, at least, not in Lovecraft's aim. To Lovecraft, the real horror about Cthulhu was that he symbolized a blind, uncaring universe that was completely indifferent to humanity.

(Which probably makes Cthulhu and the other Great Old Ones not really all that appropriate for the Gargoyles Universe, but of course, I never said that those three critters actually were Cthulhu. For all that we know, in the TGS Universe, Lovecraft could have somehow gotten wind of their specimens in the Illuminati and used them for inspiration).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, February 21, 2000 11:32:25 PM
IP: 216.87.46.97.dialup-stl.primary.net

All> Where's this week's episode? It still shows The Wedding part 2. <grumble, grumble> <wink>

RE Female gargoyle appearances> I disagree -- there was variation among the female gargoyles, though perhaps not so marked as among the males. I cite Ophelia, of Clan Avalon, as a prime example. She had a whole ceratopsian forehead, which must have made going through doors inconvenient. Just picture the scenes around Avalon's castle:

Princess Katharine: Supper is ready . . . come on in, Ophelia.

Ophelia: I can't, my horns are stuck in the doorframe again.

Also consider the unnamed females of Clan Avalon, seen briefly in a survey shot of the Great Hall on Avalon. There is a screenshot of that somewhere in the Station 8 archive.

Female gargoyles are more likely to have pronounced horns than males -- eg Desdemona and Asrial. (Though I admit Asrial is a creation of TGS, rather than canon. Oh, well.) The Amazonian gargoyles certainly have plenty of variation, in both genders!

Having said all that, I must also notice a definite tendency towards long flowing hair and a slender build, which is almost certainly because our construct of femininity tends that direction, rather than to short-haired and solid. Notice that we never saw a bald female gargoyle, although Lexington and Broadway both lacked cranial hair. On the other hand, we've never seen a furred gargoyle of any gender, though such a creature is certainly within the scope of variation available in a species where the number of limgs can vary from 5 to 7. (I choose to believe that gargoyle tails are prehensile, and therefore count as limbs. Wings count as limbs certainly, and there is evidence that not all gargoyles are bipedal: at least one of the Amazonian gargoyles had a serpentine tail instead of legs, which I also would count as prehensile. It would have to be in order to land in a tree. <grin>)

Must go, it's late and I have no choice but to pay by the minute for connection time. Goodnight!

** vanishes in a puff of un-smoke **

Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Monday, February 21, 2000 11:29:54 PM
IP: host212-140-2-163.btinternet.com

Lexy> ack! that's horrible that someone would steal someone else's property. Please send my regrets to Kai.

Skippy> *waves arms in the air* Denis and I are attending G2K =) Denis's plane tickets were purchased this past weekend, so there's no backing out for him now! ;D Have you made your hotel reservation yet? If you are pretty sure that you are going to attend, I recommend that you go ahead and make them. You can always cancel if it turns out that you can't attend afterall.
For those who will be flying - I HIGHLY recommend Susan, the "official" G2K Travel agent! She's wonderful to work with and found Den's tickets for $100 less than what we had found ourselves! =)

Jenna> cool! I will read your fanfic as soon as I have the opportunity :)

it's bedtime for this working stiff... *hugs to all*

Jannie
Monday, February 21, 2000 11:19:22 PM
IP: 141.198.1.4

**RP HERE- YOU ARE WARNED**

The four Ravens with Mecord continue to search the cooridors of the Avatar for SJ, still having no luck tracking him down. "No sign of him here either," Doug tells Lathrop via cell phone. "It's like he's disappeared into thin air. Maybe we should have Wilek continue the search and head down to Earth after Asil instead." "I would second that," Lathrop agrees. "This is getting us nowhere. Whatever SJ is doing, he will surely handle it himself given the proper time. We know he's skilled enough, and besides he's probably got Kari with him. We'll finish searching the deck we're on and then go to the hangar to wait for you." "Yeah, we'll be there shortly," Doug replies. "Over and out." He sighs and turns back to Kit, who is hanging up a cell phone of her own. "Shap says some Avatar security drones found an escaped demon two decks below us," she says. "Could be the one we're after. They assimilated it before it could cause any more trouble." "Shap let them do that?" Stephanie gasps. "He arrived too late to stop them," Kit sighs. "I know why you're worried, I'm concerned about a Borg demon too. Hopefully the Administrator knew what she was doing." She shrugs and looks at Doug. "What'd Lathrop tell you?" "He can't find SJ either," Doug replies. "I think we should give up and go ahead and get after Asil after we finish this deck. If we haven't found him by then, of course. We need to get back to more immediately important matters, and I also think some of us could use a little rest." "Doubtless," Keith agrees with a yawn. "Uh guys," Mecord breaks in, "what about the situation here? We've still got a demon to track down, right?" "Possibly," Kit nods. "If it wasn't the one the Avatar's staff just assimilated." "Could you explain to me what that means?" asks the confused elf. Kit frowns and then begins doing so as the other three Ravens continue searching the many rooms leading off from the hall they're in for any sign of their missing friends. Halfway down, Anoth's projected image fades out of the shadows and surprises them. "Sorry," the Halfling apologizes with a grin. "I thought you'd want to know that Reverend Atilla and the Scouts have shown up in the chapel. They want to speak with you." Doug nods. "Okay, tell them we'll be up there momentarily." He turns back to Kit and Mecord, then relays the information to them as Anoth's image fades. "Who's Reverend Atilla?" Mecord asks. "Another friend of ours," Kit supplies. "A very smart cat." The elf nods as if he'd expected such an answer. "Let's go see him," Kit suggests to Doug. "Maybe he knows something about what's going on here." Doug nods. "Okay. Keith, you and Stephanie stay with Mecord, keep up the search. You find the demon, you know what to do?" "Kill it, right?" Stephanie smiles. "If that's possible," Keith adds with a grimace. "Right," Doug smiles. "Don't worry, Mecord, you can trust them. See you later." He and Kit nod farewell, then dash off down the corridor, leaving their two friends (and one still very confused elf) behind as the screen's image fades.

**END RP FIRST HALF- BEGIN POST**

Hi. Good to see you all. <looks around as if checking on everything> Okay, phew, the room looks intact. What happened to make it not that way yesterday had better not happen again. <whistles and calls a large grinning Chinese Quickling wielding a heavy double-bladed axe, then gestures at DC, who screams and starts running around the CR with the Quickling giving chase> There, the great Lo Ho, royal executioner to the Ming, Han, and Qin Dynasties of Chinese Emperors should be able to prevent it from happening at least for a while. :) Now on to the topics. BTW, forgive me if I don't reply to any specific topic here. What with the CR of last week gone, I can't recall most of them. :( Oh well, hopefully I'll still be able to respond intelligently to the ones I do. :)

Fanfic Progress: Thanks again to the two people who sent me Test feedback during the weekend. Wish I'd gotten more of course, but I realize the time for it is probably past now. <sigh> Have begun writing Elysium today, it's getting off to a rocky but good start. Don't know yet how long it will take, but I'll do the best I can to make it good. :) BTW, just so all fans of my stories in here (I know there are at least a few) know, I will be chatting in the Gargoyles Reunion Special Events room between 6 pm and midnight this Friday as part of the fanfic writers panel. So if you guys have any questions about my stories, past or future; any comments they want to give me face to face; anything they want to discuss with me at all related to fanfic (I don't think we'll be allowed to go off-topic :( ), come on down. I look forward to speaking with you. :)

Warpmind: You've played Knights of Xentar too, huh? Glad you agree it's a good game. The overall story and bad guys are pretty neat, as are most of the jokes in there and the characters. The hentai scenes are good but mostly unnecessary, though (and the fact that there aren't any with the heroine is a major bummer). Overall, pretty good game. Too bad that burglar who invaded my apartment about nine months ago took it and I haven't been able to find another copy since. :(

Lexy: <nods> I agree, stuff getting stolen really does suck. Especially when it's something as personal as a computer. <sighs> I hope Kaioto gets his back somehow, the police never found any of the stuff that the burglar took from me October before last. :( Please relay to Kaioto if you can that he has my prayers and hopes in his situation, as well as my condolences. I hope that somehow he is able to return here soon. The CR just wouldn't be the same without its Sage, and a good friend. :)

Wilek: Thanks for the repost. I agree with you about the Gameshark being a fantastic invention (too bad it doesn't always work for every game exactly the way you want it to. :( And I have envisioned Samuel L. Jackson and Mr. T as Barrett of FF7 too. Of course, his character was kinda molded on theirs. :) (Thora Birch would make the best Tifa IMO, with Leo or some similar loser as Rufus, Jason Priestly as Reno and Jennie Garth as Elena, and Kiefer Sutherland as Cid. Not sure who'd do the other roles, especially Sephiroth (you have any ideas?).)

Katara: Congrats to you on becoming an aunt, and double to your sister. Hope she raises the child well, and comes to view it with the proper joy befitting such an event. :) May the child live to do great things.

Robby: Thanks for the heads-up about Wakko's Wish. Kit and I were unfortunately unable to catch most of it due to class, but we did see some Power Rangers spoof bits at the end that were kind of funny. :) Hope the rest was at least equally as good.

**SPEAKING OF MOVIES, HERE'RE SOME SPOILERS FOR THE TWO DECENT-LOOKING FILMS THAT CAME OUT THIS WEEKEND**

Pitch Black: Saw this Friday. I agree that it had a good script and character development, and the acting was more than decent too. :) The cineamatography could have used some work though, and the film's overall premise felt too been there done that. :( Still, good movie, and I recommend it for all Gargs fans and other people as well. :)

The Whole Nine Yards: Caught this too and found it a pretty good movie. Bruce Willis did another great preformance and so did MC Duncan, Natasha Henstridge, and all the other actors except Matthew Perry (who was perfect for his role but still did a terrible job. Why can't Hollywood just get rid of this guy?). The movie's plot was good too, but the way it was scripted stunk, as did the way the subplots were handled. <sigh> At least some of the jokes were funny and the ending was good enough to make the film worth it. See it if you're in need of a halfway good comedy and like Bruce Willis, otherwise give it a wide berth.

**END SPOILERS FOR WEEKEND FILMS**

This Week's X-Files: I didn't like it either, though the fact that I've never liked COPS probably biased me somewhat. No, that didn't matter, the whole episode stunk. Mulder and Scully were stagnant and boring, the script reeked of cliched moments, and the two cops who helped them out were okay but uninteresting characters (too dumb in their moves to be funny IMO). The fear demon bad guy was cool, but that was about it. I wish it had given Mulder and Scully's camera crew the horrible bloodbath they wanted (or even better, I wish it would have been turned out to be a certain Buffy villain from this season. Seeing Mulder and Scully's response to Gaknar would have been great! :) Oh well, at least it wasn't the worst thing on Sunday night (that was the awful and unfunny new Simpsons ep that IMO unjustly MSTed the IMO great network that is PBS) and the new episode of X-Files last week looks like it will be better. <fingers crossed>

Christine: Glad you enjoyed Radcon so much. You did tell Steve Perry that we all appreciate his work on Gargoyles, right? :) Hope the publicity from the event helps your publishing woes, if not...well, you still have fans and friends here who count for more at least in my book. :)

Pistoff: Welcome back. Sorry to hear you were sick, hope you're now feeling at least somewhat better. I kinda agree with you about a lot of the women on Gargoyles looking a bit too attractive, but of course, it was TV and nearly all women on there look that way. :) And also, some women would remind us guys that a girl too often has to look good to keep our attention for longer than five minutes. :( Those points aside, you're right, more variation and realism in the female gargs' looks would have been nice to see. I guess we'll just have to somehow make up for it in our fanfic-verses. :)

Shadowrider: Welcome! Good to see an Italian person in here. I have many Italian friends (and step-family members) IRL, it's nice to have one on the Net too. Hope you like it here. (Watch your sanity though, after enough time here it does tend to disappear. :)

Shauntelle: Welcome back. Hope to soon see more of your great artwork. :)

Jenna: New story posted? Okay, I'll be checking it out as soon as I have time. Thanks for the plug.

Frankenstein: Been a long time since I've read that book, but I do remember being influenced by it. :) And I agree with Todd that Hollywood has done the monster a grave injustice with the way they usually portray him. Unfortunately, disgracing classic literature is too often something Hollywood does. <sigh> That's one reason I applaud shows like Buffy and Gargoyles for properly honoring it. :)

And talking about doing that has of course reminded me that I have a bunch of classic literature to study and read for school tomorrow. <sigh> Guess I better get to it. Later everyone, see you next time. <leaves>

**RP ONCE AGAIN**

"Boss-lady," Nylon Man is saying to Asil in the Los Angeles penthouse hideout, "I need to talk to you for a minute." Asil looks around and sees that only James VanDerBeek is in the room with them and he's busy practicing his new stupid-hunk hypnosis powers on an unsuspecting hotel maid. "We're alone," Asil tells the nice DLG member, keeping one eye on her boytoy and one hand on her blaster just in case he gets too close to his victim. "What do you want?" "I'm just concerned," Nylon Man stammers in reply. "You know, we haven't really been doing anything since we hooked up with you except gathering weapons and killing people. That's...uh, well..." "What?" Asil asks. "The people we kill deserve to die, Nylon. There is no question about it." "What about the innocents who have been caught in our crossfires?" "Oh, for the love of..." Asil mutters, then sighs and answers, "We are fighting a war here to destroy the stupid and awful things in this world. I thought for a long time that Thailog could help me fight that war, but now I'm not so sure. He cares more about instituting his own order on the world, just as the people we are exterminating do. They don't care about the numbers of lives they ruin, destroy, or otherwise harm on their roads to power, and we shouldn't either if we're going to fight them. Fighting war means casualties, Nylon. Besides, there are no innocents. Everyone in this world has some crime for which to be guilty. Our group only has more than most." "I understand," Nylon nods, seeing that nothing he says is going to make Asil become uncommitted to what they are doing. "Thanks. I guess I'll see you later, I'm gonna run out for coffee and donuts." He turns and leaves the room, no expression on his face. Asil watches him go and frowns for a long moment, wondering if she should be worried about the DLG member being reluctant to serve her in the future as well as he has so far. The others are completely loyal to me, she decides, I guess I'll be content with that. They're out replenishing our weapons supply now, as soon as they return we shall begin our final crusade. Once that is done, nothing else will matter. Keeping that pleasant thought in her mind, Asil sighs and turns back to VanDerBeek, continuing to supervise his activity with a critical eye and readiness to deliver a bitchy harangue if necessary as the screen's image fades.

**END RP**

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, February 21, 2000 10:33:34 PM
IP: pool-209-138-161-157.dlls.grid.net

Hillo everybody!!!
Boy, it has been forever since I was last in here!!! My computer's been havin' fits, so we had to get rid of the interenet. So, I've been borrowing my dad's computer.
Hey Jenna!! I read that little story thing o' yours. I don't have anything ready though, myself. I liked it. ^_^
So, ya gonna make the 'Big Guy' immortal? Will we see him with Thailog in the future? That would WAY cool. ^_^
Anyhow, I'm still trying to get my fics posted. STill no luck. Oh! And Jenna, I've got all of your pics done. All I need to do now is scan them and send them. ^_^
Later everyone!!

Shauntell - [Maria Destine@aol.com]
Monday, February 21, 2000 09:35:16 PM
IP: spider-we064.proxy.aol.com

Todd> forget it then I went through so much headache trying to unearth info on those things that I just decided to make a transmythic chupacabra instead
shogun raptor
Monday, February 21, 2000 09:21:42 PM
IP: user-38ldc9e.dialup.mindspring.com

********************************************************************************Shameless Plug Alert********************

Here's a link to a new story of mine- I put it up in the reunion as well. It's something to kick off a new spin off series that I'm doing in my fanfic universe, that occurs after Misbegotten Son-- It's called Mars, 2158

And there's a piccy as well!@!!!!

I'll be putting it in the archive a little later.

Clicky Click!!!!!


*********************************************************************************End of shameless plug******************

jenna aka Cairo of Clan SteelClaw
Monday, February 21, 2000 09:10:00 PM
IP: ppp-209-184-83-39.hstntx.swbell.net

MECORD - I've had my own "Gargoyles"-related thoughts about "Frankenstein", although I'll confess that the monster reminded me more of Goliath, if a bleaker version of him. Particularly in that both the monster and Goliath were literate and had read the classics: Goliath reads Shakespeare and Dostoyevsky, while the monster read Plutarch, Goethe, and Milton. (I still say that Hollywood has done a great disservice to Frankenstein's creation in portraying it as a mute, shambling brute).

Of course, you could also view Coldstone as a bit of a "Frankenstein's monster" echo, although a bit closer to the Hollywood version....

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, February 21, 2000 08:41:18 PM
IP: 216.87.46.97.dialup-stl.primary.net

**Mecord enters bleary eyed with a copy of Frankenstein**

Greetings Shadowrider! Welcome to the CR. Italy huh? I have a cusin in Italy,though I'm not sure where at the moment.

Anyone know Frankenstein well? I'm doing an essay about how the creature turns evil and I can't help but notice a few paralells between it and Demona. They both turn against humanity when they are betrayed and wronged by humans. They are both hunted, and both tend to get attacked when walking into the odd village. Now that I think about it, Thailog makes a good cannidate as well. With Savarius as Victor Frankenstein. But Victor is too nice for that role to fit well. Gargoyles has warped how I read classic literatue (especially Shakespeare).

**Walks out with his nose in the book again**

Mecord Lein - [mecordlein@mailcity.com]
Monday, February 21, 2000 08:00:30 PM
IP: usr36.mtwest.net

Hi,I'm writing from the far Italy.I'm a newbie on the Net,but I'm also an obsessioned Gargoyles-fan (well,I like other stuff also,but Gargoyles are the best) and my preferred characters are Brook and Sata.Is there anyone to chat with me?
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, MI, Italy
Monday, February 21, 2000 07:05:52 PM
IP: h255-22-107.mi2.albacom.net

If you know who Ylla is... you know she is a COOL art chick that is a very good friend of mine. She did a pic of my character, Orin once... so I am returning the favor! :)

Hope she likes it!!

CrzyDemona - [<--- Prezzie for Ylla]
Monday, February 21, 2000 06:40:10 PM
IP: 209.150.94.69

Happy engineering week to you all.

Warpmind> Feel free to correct me. Unless you are going to say something like objects on Earth fall at a rate of 9.80663m\(s^2)...
<<Out of the two of us, I'm the one with the uses and knowhow for a PII, not my father. Life is thoroughly unfair>>: True, but then you will make a fortune with your computer skills and buy your personal Cray (with the free sharpener*)
*Standard joke: Supercomputer power is measured in Crayons=1 Cray 1. With 64 Crayons, you get a free sharpener.

Mara C> <<what decade in US history might have had the most tolerance for gargoyles>>: 60s, because of the drugs. To paraphrase Bill Engvall: Wouldn't you flip? You'd be like, look at that winged thing. And you'd be glad you weren't on acid, you'd be talking to him. "What's your name? You better put shoes on man. Alright, you're gonna get stickers in your feet."
Really, that is funny. Btw, he was originally talking about the lizard that gets up on two feet and charges when threatened.
Oh, and is $50 a good price for Rent (including show, transportation, and dinner)?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Monday, February 21, 2000 06:39:58 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

RP WARNING!!!
**The Scouts look at the rosary and wonder. 'Who is Angelic Queen Serenity? In less than a month, we will be most greatful.'

The five guards appear with someone who also has a dire wolf. One guard notices Attila and recognizes him.
"That's Reverend Attila. Ted Turner will pay a fortune for him..." the guy is stunned as the scouts blast him.
"That was the stun setting. We'll go with you to meet with the Ravens and Mr. Nereus, but we will blast any of Ted Turner's spies."

As they are now in agreement, the scouts and Attila follow the guards.**
END RP!!!!

Caliope> Tis a pleasure to meet you, too. Click on my name to see my pic :)

Archwolf> I can't beleive any teacher would say anything good about Cromwell, though when I learne who he was, none of his evil actions were brough to light, until I learned later. To say that Cromwell did the Irish a favor is to say the US Calvary did the American Indians a favor. If my teacher said such a thing, I'd tell teh Principal, and he'd be fired, especially since I went to a Catholic HS :)
$BTW, the Green Baron's Arch-Nemesis is the Orange Duke, who has a residence in Belfast. I imagien youc na catch the color references :)$

Wilek> Lawrence Stone lives in Chillicothe. That's near you, I think.

The English also gave us some oteh rgood things, like CS Lewis, GK Chesterton, JRR Tholkein, Adam Smith, Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, and St.'s Thomas More and Beckett (but Beckett was Norman, so he's not a Saxon, thankfully). On the bad side, they gave us Chrsitopher Hitchens, John Cormwell, Oliver Cromwell, King Henry VIII, and John Maynard Keynes. King Arthur was a Briton, so he wouldn't be in the list of good Anglo-Saxon contributions.

SJ> Actually, I was going after Anglo-Saxons, not the British :)

Starsinger> I'm glad you liked my joke.

Bengali> What's your AOL IM SN? Youc an e-mail me the info. Mine is GrnBaron77.

RESUME differnt RP!!
**OJ Simpson now has the money and information, so he sends an e-mail to Attila, hoping to resolve things and later to kill Marshall Applewhite to get rid of the cult, since he beleives one of their number is the real killer.**
END RP for NOW!!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, February 21, 2000 05:43:48 PM
IP: 141.164.133.107

I just checked out some of the art at the Reunion...great stuff!
SOROW
Monday, February 21, 2000 04:53:42 PM
IP: dll2a030-0890.splitrock.net

Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh gaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwd!!!!

Sorry I've been gone so long. Got caught up in more RL stuff, then I got sick. I managed to get through the winter without catching any of the bugs that were going around--but naturally my luck had to run out. For about a week this cold has been messing with me. One day it would be terrible, the next day I'd feel better, and the day after I'd feel like crap again. Then it settled in my sinuses and for a couple of days I felt as if my head might explode. I was coughing up fluorescent-green gunk, except for last night and today, when I started coughing up _dark_ green gunk. Maybe I'm getting to the gunk that's been down there a bit longer than the other stuff....

Then, when I had a chance to post yesterday, I couldn't get into the room. Later on I found out it had been wiped. I tried to get into last week's CR, and it's gone. So now I don't know what anybody was talking about.

For now, just a couple of things I remember from before the wipe, but didn't have time to respond to....

Aaron: I'm pretty sure that was Gary Cole's voice in the "Crusade" promo. It's been a long time since I've seen the promo, so I can't be sure, but Cole's the one who usually said that line. Heh, if it's a deep-sounding voice, it's probably Cole. ;) All the other male actors in the cast had higher-pitched or softer voices. Too bad the show was cancelled so soon. Cole has a great voice and his character was a lot of fun. When I start writing Vacuum Riders, Demona will probably have quite a few elements of his personality...and maybe just a hint of Ash, as well. ;) In other words, she'll be kinda nutty, but it'll be a good kinda nutty... ;) As for your Frank Black character, Gary Cole is a good choice. Heh, I'd just like to hear him providing a voice for an animated character, anyway...hearing Gideon's smartass tone coming from a Gargs character would make my life complete. ^_^

Gside: Demona's narrow waist--you have some points there, but as you said, it doesn't explain Broadway. ;) I just noticed that, quite often, Demona's waist looked as it it were maybe eight inches across. To me, that seems like some sort of birth defect. ;) I mean, her bowels must really be scrunched up in there....

Actually, now that I think about it...I've noticed that the male gargoyles were the only ones who had variation in their appearences. Brooklyn has that beak, Broadway is...uh, broad...and Lexington has a different type of wings and looks like a goblin. But female gargoyles all look like supermodels with wings, tails, and weird feet--except for Una, and even she is pretty hot. I remember somebody mentioning a beaked female in the background in one of the episodes--but that's like an "extra" that just passed by in the crowd. It would've been nice to see some more variation in the females--not to mention a little more believable.

Uh, well...I dunno if this has a point or not. Just something I noticed.

Well, now to start catching up with email again. If nothing _else_ goes wrong... *grumbles*

Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Monday, February 21, 2000 04:21:45 PM
IP: cb2-98.transport.com

Erk why do the preschoolers get a day off but not us College Students?

Well I'm working on my Romantism paper and I saw an add for something that I'm going to use to help GB and his Catholic SchoolGirl Scouts in his RP
**Being RP**
A flash of light and Angelic Queen Simplicity appears before the Scouts.
"Use the St Patrics Rsary Cross in your fight against evil. She gently sends them a beutiful cross. One each end was a 3 leaf clover and green rosary beads were attached.
"The Power of the Corss wil be at its full peak on March 17" She said before vanishing
**End RP***
Robby>>The vacuum cleaner monster from SM? That was a good ep. of course my favorite is when they find the talismans and the cup appears.

TO EVERYONE WHO IS SICK try this nasal gel called ZICAm. It cuts your cold in half.Trust me it works.

X-Files: Whoa next week looks cool, Mulder in that get up
*THUD*
Leaves the CR Punching DC in the nose.


Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, February 21, 2000 03:51:59 PM
IP: user-37kap08.dialup.mindspring.com

It must have been great, Christine, you forgot to turn you post white. ;)
Mecord
Monday, February 21, 2000 03:07:15 PM
IP: usr17.mtwest.net

Back from Radcon! It was GREAT!!! One of the GoH was Steve Perry, who wrote for Gargoyles including "Enter MacBeth" and "Eye of the Beholder." I posted a big long thing all about it in the Curse of the Shadow Beasts comment room; clickie or drop by at http://www.s8.org/cotsb/index.html to read all about it! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, February 21, 2000 01:42:01 PM
IP: vecna.ndip.eskimo.net

Hmmm, you wouldn't have the address for that site would you Robby? Oh, and I picked up GD 7 & 8 finally.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, February 21, 2000 12:19:15 PM
IP: ppp-175.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Aaron- Thats why you should check the website instead of assuming its the last Sunday of the month... Not much happened on BDB, but the chick who bites her lip to make it bleed starved herself due to the ...reaction the main character had the previous episode, and the blond chick collapsed against a wall and needed drugs that another character just happened to carry around... 5 minutes of plot stretched to two episodes...

You also missed the Vacuum Cleaner villain on Sailor Moon. Not much else tho.

Robby
Monday, February 21, 2000 12:05:38 PM
IP: spider-tj073.proxy.aol.com

Um, what happened to last week's room?

Mara, any chibi-drama you did is gone, could you please repost it.

Robby> Ahhhhhhhhhhh! What! I thought the SAAS meeting was next weekend! Damn. Could you fill me in on what I missed on Brother, Dear Brother?

Real post later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, February 21, 2000 11:56:04 AM
IP: ppp-241.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

X-Files> The big problem was that the actors they hired were obviously not used to dealing directly with the camera. As a result they did over dramatize the situation. Blair Witch at least did a better job of dealing with the camera. A video camera does limit the options you havefilm-making wise. None of those groovy special effects or anything, strickly the actors abilies to react to the scene...
Steve and Eddie were fun though. I've got this strange vision that we might see them showing up on the Lone Gunmen series...

I know it's early, but anyone here sure they are heading out to the Gathering? I plan on it as soon as I'm sure of the money. It looks like I might be able to arrange it.
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, February 21, 2000 10:47:17 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-42.ultravision.net

SHOGUN RAPTOR - I'm sorry, but I can't post any information here about the three creatures in "Dragon's Stone" without giving away secrets we've been saving for future seasons of TGS.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, February 21, 2000 06:52:57 AM
IP: 216.87.46.224.dialup-stl.primary.net

Here's the link to the reunion!!!!---
Jenna
Monday, February 21, 2000 02:28:54 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-95.hstntx.swbell.net

Hey again folks. I know I said I was going to go to bed early, but I just got through watching X-files.

**********X-FILES SPOILERS (sorta)****************
So okay, whaat did everyone think? For some reason, I felt like I was watching Blair Witch Project. I don't think that this was a very good way to do the show at all. To much bouncing around. It gave me a headache. I felt it basically made the show rather confusing. I wasn't impressed at all with a "monster" that took the shape of the victims worst nightmare. I didn't like how Mulder seemed to be trying to impress the camera crew with his knowledge of the paranormal. Scully just seemed to even more crabby than ususal. The only part that I really liked was Steve and Edie, especially when they were fighting. LOL, so funny. Granted I'm not a faithful follwer of the show, but this one made me wish I'd rented a video tonight like I'd planned to.

****************END SPOILERS**********************

Well, as promised, that's it for me. Sorry for double posting. Pleasant dreams to all.

*goes off to think about Mara's question*

Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Monday, February 21, 2000 01:35:30 AM
IP: 98ade7c2.ipt.aol.com

Jenna- Could you post that info to the whole room? I've kinda lost track of it too...
Robby
Monday, February 21, 2000 01:28:33 AM
IP: spider-tm043.proxy.aol.com

Just a reminder... Wakko's Wish, the ANimaniacs movie, will be playing on the WB tommarrow during normal WB animated programming. Watch for it.

Aaron- Why weren't you at today's SAAS meeting? You missed some particularly bad episodes of Brother, Dear Brother, not to mention the first episode of Lum...

Robby
Monday, February 21, 2000 01:26:52 AM
IP: spider-tm043.proxy.aol.com

Lexy- I sent you an em regarding the info
jenna
Monday, February 21, 2000 01:23:01 AM
IP: ppp-207-193-227-95.hstntx.swbell.net

************************************************************AHH somebody help me!! I lost my info for the Online
reunion!! I dont have the site for one and for two, when is it? Are there times for chatting and such? I mean, all I have here is the times for the Celeb talk and correct me if im wrong on this one too its on the 26 going from 7-10 right???? I live in wisconsin so when would that be? *growls* man, been SO busy with homework this week I just kinda had to let all this slide. SOMEBODY help me!!

*begs/pleads*

Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:59:40 PM
IP: 98cd8406.ipt.aol.com

*diddybops in, sporting a Godiva-eque hairstyle, blond straight locks falling down to her ankles and making it unclear of what she's wearing underneath though it's apparently tie-died. Chibi Demmie-chan is carrying a protest sign, her wild red hair in dredlocks, Xellos has a hand rolled cig (unlit, no smoking in CR) and Angie-chan is currently burning a bra.*

Hi folks... Your musical to be introduced to this week is the wonderful "HAIR" in easy to swallow medley format. Look for it soon.

As for a topic this week, might I suggest... what decade in US history might have had the most tolerance for gargoyles and the least tolerance. Why? Why not?


Mara Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:54:12 PM
IP: spider-tp054.proxy.aol.com

SOROW>Don't worry. Most of us got that message, and some were able go get in later on anyway. Just keep trying.

Katara>Hope you get over the cold soon. I hate being sick...umm...lemme re-phrase...I hate being physicly ill.


Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:25:30 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Correction: I won't be able to go to the chat rooms at all cause I just checked and it says I'm forbidden. *sniff* I hope all you guys have fun.
SOROW
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:20:58 PM
IP: dll2a020-0736.splitrock.net

HI ALL! I have a booger of a project for the next few days, so I won't be able to go to most of the Reunion, but I'll try. The great news...Joe's band won at The Battle of the Bands Contest!!!!! Everyone give him a big round of applause. I'll give him a kiss :) *kiss*
SOROW
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:16:59 PM
IP: dll2a020-0736.splitrock.net

**apologies in advance to all Reunion people for the following rant**

Great job, people! First I'm in the chat room for five minutes and barely able to introduce myself and say hi. Then the site brainfarts and I'm unable to post. I log off and log back in, but get a Forbidden message. <sigh> Why aren't these problems fixed already? They better not occur during upcoming special events! Augh! <please pardon this, people. I was really enjoying the Reunion and to have DC ruin it is so...<shakes head>

Kitainia
Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:02:26 PM
IP: pool-209-138-202-137-dlls.grid.net

[Wilek stalks in, accompanied by Chibi Edea, Alucard, and Vega.] The chibis and I have a spectacularly unpleasant DC death lined up for tomorrow...

**REPOST, HOPEFULLY TO HELP OTHERS CATCH UP WITH SOME OF LAST WEEK'S DISCUSSIONS**

**RP!**

[In whatever quarters he occupies on the station, Wilek's evil clone, the Dark Mage, is startled from his meditations by, first, the arrival of five holy warriors and a priest via sacred magic...and then something else arriving, something more...interesting...DM: "Garou? Here? <evil laugh> And here I thought I'd have to postpone that experiment..." He uses an illusion spell to make himself invisible, then sets off down a corridor, following the aura of arcane power...]

**PAUSE RP!**

Jaden> <<Rocket Launcher- Yeah! Lets see him try to deflect THAT with his saber.>> Hehehe! And the fun part is, when he's hit from outside, for some reason he just stands there, never realizing what just happened. Either a design oversight in the game, or Maul simply isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. ;)

Katara> <<Congratulate me, for tonight I am an aunt! My "baby" sister, had her baby tonight. I'm still trying to get over the shock finding out she was pregnant. I just found out at the beginning of January, and she wasn't due till about the middle of March. She's only 18 and I was hoping she'd wait a while, but sometimes God and life has other plans for ya!>> Congratulations! ^_^

Warpmind> $<<we may have given up our sanity, but that doesn't guarantee us immunity from delirium. ;)>> Actually, it's suspected that an overabundance of sanity may be the cause of that. Insanity is a *lot* more adaptable to unfamiliar situations. ;D$ <<I suspect Rodlox may have been using *shudder* MSIE.>> Heh...it's all I ever use, and I've never had much trouble with it. ;) Netscape, on the other hand, is like a bomb with a random detonation timer on my system...(I also have good luck on Friday the 13th; could there be a connection?) <<that series is quite unique; it is one of the extremely rare cases where the first game has been in the slushpile category, while the sequels have just become increasingly better...>> The only one I have any familiarity with is VII, but I agree, it is rather good. There's the annoying matter of all the random-encounter battles and the tedium of level building, but these are easily taken care of with a Game Shark (there's nothing like reaching Level 95 before reaching the church). ;) And I won't bore y'all with my raving about how great the soundtrack is...and for some reason, I can't help imagining either Samuel L. Jackson or Mr. T as that one dude with the chaingun arm. O_o

Jannie> <<Why does "fat chance" and "slim chance" mean the same thing?>> I believe 'fat' is in the sarcastic sense. :) <<Why do we sing "Take me out to the ball game" when we are already there?>> These are die hard sports fans we're talking about; as a general rule, they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer (have a look at the guy in facepaint and a rainbow fright wig and find out what I mean). ;) j/k <<If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?>> 42.

Archwolf> <<actualy, I wonder about the Delerium and Gargoyls characters. With everything ppl like Elisa and Xanatos have seen, wouldn't seeing someone turn into a 3 meter tall wolf-man rank fairly low on the 'Weird S@*T-O-Meter'?>> Heh...in the increasingly unlikely event that I get around to involving the Garou in my ficverse, there pretty much won't *be* such a thing as Delirium...since, admittedly, I can't see how it could work; human DNA memory is all but nonexistent (xenomorphs, on the other hand...)...of course, noticing a ten foot tall critter with fangs like steak knives coming to kill you would scare the veins out of you anyhow, unless you had a wonderfully nasty gun/spell/whatever...

SJ> <<Now, talks have shifted to none other than gothic film god Tim Burton to potentially direct the remake.>> I *really* must take dance classes, so I can actually perform what is colloquially known as 'happy dances' at times like this. 8) <<I suggest the La Blue Girl series for you. It'll loosen up those conservative sensibilities of yours about hentai.>> There's a *reason* the expression is 'butt-ugly' rather than 'butt-<choose your own synonym for attractive>'. ;) Besides, I think my psychological defects when it comes to hentai may be a tad more disturbing than simple conservatism...when I see [Xerxes/Advise: The Many have excised this portion of the transmission for the psychological safety of the local populace. Thank you.], preferably via chainsaw, sledgehammer, or tuning fork (don't ask)...it's probably the fault of some repressed memory that I hope stays repressed. (Xerxes is getting *real* censorious lately.) <<But you'll never think the same way about aliens with tentacles. ;)>> Heh...then I'd probably better not risk it; my creativity divas are alien octopi, and they'd probably kill me in my sleep (and let us not even think about Cthulhu, the Pak'Ma'Ra, or anything from Reboot's Web). ;P

**RESUME RP!**

[DM arrives at where he sensed the aura of his targets, and sees the two werewolves, one in the form of a human and the other shifted into a wolf, standing outside a chapel absolutely oozing with holy power; he thanks all that is evil that his targets aren't in *there*. He looks them over, decides they'll be suitable, then produces a couple of blood sample extractors stolen from sickbay, casts a subtle mind clouding spell (which takes quite a bit of concentration, since the cloaking spell is running at the same time), and takes a sample from each shapeshifter. Both of them suddenly realize there's something weird going on, but they can't figure out what...by the time they think to check for any sign of dark magic, the Dark Mage is long gone...]

**END RP!**

**END REPOST!**

Lexy> <<While Kai was taking a train ride home from college on friday somebody stole his laptop computer. He will use the comps at school and other ppl's when he gets the chance but wont be on with his own comp.>> WHAT?!?! >8( <too ticked off to even rant, he adds the thieves to the chibis' hit list>

Katara> You're sick? Eesh, why is all this stuff happening this close to the reunion?! <adds Sli Sludge to the chibis' hit list> Get well soon...

Wilek Nereus
Sunday, February 20, 2000 10:55:41 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Well, FINALLY!! Nothing like going through withdrawal symptoms when I can't get into the CR.

*her nose starts to twitch* Ahhh...ahhh..aaahhh-choooooooo *She sneezes and covers Mr. DC from head to toe with nasty, vile, green stuff. She grabs a tissue and wipes her nosey*

As ya can tell, I hab a cod. (for those that are not nasaly impaired.. I have a cold. LOL) I'm just gona make this a short and hit the sheets early tonight..or try to anyways. At least the monsters don't have classes tomorrow, so I get to sleep in late. yaaaaaahhhh!!
~Ciao

Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Sunday, February 20, 2000 10:48:33 PM
IP: 98ade7c2.ipt.aol.com

*Peeks in before catching some Z's.*

Gside: Allow me to correct your disinformation: My 486SX33 running DOS does not have a modem installed. I do, however, have access to the school computer room, where they have Cyrix 200+ processors in all the computers (bleh), and this week I'm at my father's PC, a PII 350. Out of the two of us, I'm the one with the uses and knowhow for a PII, not my father. Life is thoroughly unfair.

Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, February 20, 2000 10:29:00 PM
IP: mp-217-216-204.daxnet.no

I am again confuzled...I have no idea what happened but I cant accses last weeks CM...so I cant respond to anything anyone said...if anyone said anything....so if anyone did repeat it please :) Thanx and bye!!!
Caliope
Sunday, February 20, 2000 10:16:28 PM
IP: t3-ce-1.centix.net

Todd> I recently came across a page of some interest wherein, someone was kitbashing beastwars/animorphs/dinozaurs figures into mythological creatures, in a nutshell, I need some info on those octopus-headed creatures from "dragon's stone" Ctulu or whatever they are, thanx
shogun raptor
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:32:20 PM
IP: user-38lddtg.dialup.mindspring.com

Starsinger: That does it, then ... if something cool happens in the chats and we can't get to them, we officially reserve the right to get *royally* PO'd.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:23:29 PM
IP: zzz-209252248233.splitrock.net

Coyote, I'm blocked as well. It apparently doesn't like Webtv either.
Starsinger
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:11:54 PM
IP: proxy-353.public.rwc.webtv.net

Gside: Oh, so basically the problem is that my server's blocked for some bizarre reason. That's just spiffy. :(
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:03:28 PM
IP: zzz-209252248233.splitrock.net

**************For anyone who talks to Kaioto***************

While Kai was taking a train ride home from college on friday somebody stole his laptop computer. He will use the comps at school and other ppl's when he gets the chance but wont be on with his own comp. This is just incase anyone needed to get in touch or was wondering. thank you
**************End*********************************
*******A girlfriends Rant***************

BOY _some_ ppl you know? I cann't fathom just picking up some elses item and stealing it like that. It hurts me so inside to think that someone's dirty hands are all over his comp, reading/erasing all his personal stuff. A computer is sorta like a home. It is just so personalized and you use it so often for so meny things, you take it for granted I guess. *kicks dirt* I guess..that just really sucks..thats all I have to say. Thank you again:(

Lexy
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:02:05 PM
IP: 98c9a39c.ipt.aol.com

CtB> Hardware reqs.: Doesn't appear like that's the problem, Warpmind is there, and he has to deal with DOS.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick , NJ
Sunday, February 20, 2000 09:00:34 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Tenth, I believe.


Starsinger
Sunday, February 20, 2000 08:41:45 PM
IP: proxy-353.public.rwc.webtv.net

Gside: If it's up and running, then I'm gonna be very annoyed because I tried to go and it gave me 403 Forbidden.
This whole Reunion is starting to seem very exclusive to only those with hardware less than four months old ... I couldn't upload to the art contest normally, and now being unable to access the chats. (not to mention e-mail to the Reunion admin getting bounced when I asked for help)

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, February 20, 2000 08:33:49 PM
IP: zzz-209252248233.splitrock.net

For those who haven't heard, the reunion chat is up early. (Leva was worrying about weather)

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, February 20, 2000 08:00:53 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Ninth?

See some of you at the Reunion opening in... two and a half hours?

Warpmind d InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, February 20, 2000 06:32:32 PM
IP: mp-217-218-114.daxnet.no

Top ten ... **grumbles and fires up the Cadillac with a tow chain hooked to the rear axle, the other end of it hooked to DC's ... erhh ... naughty bits. Without warning, hits the accelerator**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, February 20, 2000 05:55:06 PM
IP: zzz-209252248233.splitrock.net

Top Ten!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Sunday, February 20, 2000 05:38:13 PM
IP: dial-259.ocis.net

Top 10 - WOW! Early Wipe - Mr. DC is in for a joyride....
Guandalug
Witten, Germany
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:51:18 PM
IP: dial-142142.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

Top 10!

now its working

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:43:30 PM
IP: user-37kapfs.dialup.mindspring.com

Top ten. <hogties Mr. Disconnect in preparation for the many horrific deaths that he's surely about to recieve>
Wilek
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:37:26 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Third
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegelcub.com]
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:36:41 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

SECOND!!
jenna
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:27:24 PM
IP: ppp-216-62-143-29.dialup.hstntx.swbell.net

1st

New mp3: Another Joplin hit, the Maple Leaf Rag

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, February 20, 2000 04:18:15 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu