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RP WARNING!!!
**Throughout Attila's criminal network, all of Ted Turner's spies are eliminated in a massive blood purge. While, this will weaken his infrastructure, the problems shoudl be fixed in a matter of days. For now, all the higher-ranking spies are seated before Reverend Attila, who is sitting on the table.

"Now, I have gathered you in here for an important meeting. As you know, a certain source has revealed Ted Turner's spy network in our organization. While those who were actually set up to spy for Ted Turner by spying on us have been spared. They will be looking fo rnew assignaments, since their job was to locate Turner's spies. All of you look so nervous. Here, have a drink made by one of my newest employees. He has privately defected form Mr. Turner and will be a double agent for us."
The Turner goons gulp down their drink nervously.
"I hope you liked the kool-aid. Now, let me introduce you to Mr. Marshall Applewhite. He will help us since Mr. turner has taken control of his cult....three, two, one."
Immediately all of the people seated start gagging and then start convulsing, until they are completely immobile, and their mouths open to reveal blackened tongues.
"Excellent work, Marshall. Now, how good are you at noozling cats."**
END RPs!!!!!

Doug> $I think Ted should be good and mad about this, don't you, especially since he won't know about Applewhite's defection, until it's too late :)$

Aaron> <<Sure, we'll have a special birthday dinner for you at G2001.>> Well, I was hoping the birthday dinner would be for G2K :)

Wilek> <<Yer never too old to have a good time, lad! :D>> I need to remind myself that, sometimes.

Madame Destine> It seems the Archive won't accept my sn or password. I guess I should read such stories after lent, anyway :)

Bengali> Isn't Gragoyle's Quest about some gargoyle named Firebrand?

Lexy> You can count me as another male friend, even if I am tempted to say your most hated nickname at times:)

Niamhgold> I'd say get rid of the tonsils if it won't be too expensive (ie HMO coverage). They can cause worse problems later.

Future Gatherings> I think Crzy and my sister were talking about New Orleans for G2002, though I will not be in NO by then.

Taleweaver> I take it you watched USA network cartoons. I remember Jenna from years ago.

Gunjack> I've seen stuff for Shadowrunner. Interesting game.

<<and "liberate" a small country...;) >> Like Cuba, Angola, or Northern Ireland :)

Fire Storm> A King Cake is an oval-shaped bakery delicacy, crossed between a coffee cake and a French pastry that is as rich in flavor as it is in history. It's decorated in royal colors of PURPLE which signifies "Justice" GREEN for "Faith" and GOLD for "Power." These colors were to resemble a jeweled crown honoring the Wise Men who visited the Christ Child on Epiphany. In the past, such things as coins, beans, pecans or peas were hidden inside each King Cake.

Today a tiny plastic baby is the common prize. At a party, the King Cake is sliced and served. Each person looks to see if their piece contains the "baby." If so, then that person is named "King"; for a day, and bound by custom to host the next party and provide the King Cake!

That's the professional definition. With Lent, the favored snack food is hot cross buns, but you can order one at www.kingcakes.com :)

New Orleans publci transportation si definitely not that reliable, though I've heard many places are worse and for the deep south, it's excellent by comaprison to most southern cities.

<<Does it matter? Even if it were 25% you would STILL make a killing there with the american dollar. >>
Still, the lower the better :)

Shadowrider> Well, that doesn't sound too caustic to me. Actually, I've jsut read that Mussolini was personally an atheist, but that was about it. Scratch Mussolini and add in....Stalin, then :) I recall something about Hitler thinking he was Odin.

As for the Vatican/Nazi contorversy, which is the subject of John Cornwell's new book, Hitler's Pope (the choice of title has probbaly gotten tons of sales alone). It has been my learning that Pius XII was careful not to speak out too loudly and he didn't name any groups when condemning teh persecution, because of two reasons:

1) He was doing a lot of good, like provide refuge for Jewish refugees throughout many religious orders in Rome, as well as arranging a network for Jewish refugess from Poland to Israle, through Turkey, largely with Roncalli's (John XXIII) help, and by appearing silent, he coudl get away with it.

2) When the Archbishop of Amsterdam spoke out about the Holocaust, many Dutch (Catholics and soem Jews posing as Catholics to remain safe) had increased persecutions as a result.

While it is possible Pius XII was too silent about it, I would be careful not to judge him in hindsight. As for him helping war criminals escape, I can't defend that without more information about it. This topic will remain an issue of controversy for centuries.

<<Julius Caesar: you're right-he was one of the best tacticians in history, a skilled politician and a courageous man; such persons are very rare. >>
I'm also partial to Attila the Hun :)

<<The Pope: curious... I actually agree with the Pope about Capital punishment, and I think Capitalism is not a good thing by itself, as well as Communism in not a bad thing by itself. >>
Well, the Pope leaves his opposition to Capital Punsihment as a personal dislike for it and odes not try to change canon law (which really has no official position as far as I know). I do not like the erractic, random,a nd selective way it is used in the US, but in my herat I support teh concept of capital punishmnet.

Communism in theory is anice Utopian idea, though it requires people to be somewhat perfect and wonderful human beings all the time, which is impractical, and if such circumstances were possible, I'd go for anarchy over Communsim any day of the week.

While I do not favor laissez-faire capitalism in its purest form, I do like as little govenrment intervention as necessary, which is largely due to the Libertarian values of Loyola's Business school :) I also find that capitalism tends to be the best fo effective systems, since we do work in our own self-interest (even when the self-interest is good like Mother Teresa's) and I imagine the free markets of nations like the US and Hong Kong have been the major reason for prosperity.

In the US, the draft was just abolished by Congress, though it hasn't been enforced since Vietnam. All I need to do to be a military Offcier is to have my College degree and get through Officer's Training. The other method is ROTC, which is done through College and for an Enlisted to get his/her Bachelors degree.

Well, I have been thinking about one day vsiiting Southern Italy, especially Rome, and I would like to be able to visit each Marian shrine and expand my rosary collection :)

<<Ave atque Vale: yor're right, it means about: "Goodbye, and may the Gods protect you".>> Not bad, since I'm so rusty. All I remember is Ave means hail and que as a suffix means and, like the famous SPQR :)

BTW, I hope you do stay around. We all make mistakes with the CR.

Jewel> I was wondering :). I'm looking forward to my next e-mail :)

Actually, I heard Antonio Banderas may be Don Quixote in an upcoming TNT special. I think he'd be good at that, though he may need to get some gray and not exercise for a while to get the Don Quixote look :) Have you heard anything about that special. It should be in March, I beleive.

I like your rant, though I never knew you had that kind of bible belt experience. You have my sympathies there. I was just taught to feel guilty about everything, until I learned about venial sins :)

Mecord> Well, if the Gathering Committee can get some kickbacks, we can hold it in Salt Lake City :)

Gside> A bowtie is to me more festive and merry, while cravats are more serious.

<<uber-nerd, that goes against the perception of nerds as small, scrawny, and sickly; >>
You just brought back images of Steve Urkel :)

Warpmind> You're right about Castro not being atrue Communist, since he does have a personal fortune of $1.4 billion. He'd fit right in with most of the folks on the Upper West Side of Manhattan or Beverly Hills :)

Clthing poll> Actually, I don't wear my trenchcoat much now adays. The lining broke and my Uncle's ex-fiance gave me a nice overcoat that looks great with my suits, plus I have a nice black fedora, which I cannot find right now. I swear I brought it with me into the computer lab :(

Patrick> Once again, you show up when there's controversy :)

Tim P.> I wonder how need the FCC is. It may be one of those remaining New Deal programs that just need to be dismantled :) Out of that group of programs, the only ones of any good are TVA, the SEC and Social(ist) (in)Security which needs MAJOR reform :)

Scott> <<Judgments are inflexible. Once you make them, you can't change them.>> Au Contraire. I've made many judgments that I have changed over the years. I just beleive judgments are a bit less flexible than simple opinions, though as we grow our judgmnets do change, which I'm gald of.

Gside> <<And also I would like to say that one of America's big problems is that it was founded by Puritans, and their ideas have invaded much of our society. >> Thank God our people ran them out of New England :)

Mecord> Actually, the Holy Land War is more like 4,000 years old and Northern Ireland is an 800 year old conflict that is slowly entering a peace process.

Now, I'm off to find my fedora.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, March 12, 2000 09:22:43 PM
IP: 141.164.77.167

Mercord> Actually I'm an oldby who has not been around for a while but thanx anyway.

Not much else to comment on except that season 3 of TD is going to rock!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 08:39:14 PM
IP: dialin-1135-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**Mecord enters the room smiling, but the smile quickly fades as the elf notices the chaotic nature of a recent argument.**

Okay people. Let's calm down. mistakes have been made and feelings hurt. This weeks room is about to be removed so let's let the argument go with it. We are all friends here and while opinions can, will, and should differ, we need to remember that it is a common intrest that brought us all here and bind us together. Shadowrider, please stay. You have been a great contribution to this room and we enjoy your company. Like I told Lexy, we are all here for eachother and should't let this drive a division between us.

Now, that said, on to a few replies.

G"X"B and Cyclonus>> Welcome, hope you enjoy the CR as well as I have.

Warpmind>> <That Stargate reference was laughably obvious.> It was intended to be. :) Yes I did notice that during the whole shroud of Turin discussion. :) I happen to be a part of a simmilar organization from another world. I'm currently working on a web page that should explain a lot more about Mecord's interesting situation.

Rodlox>> 10,000 year war. Look at the "Holy land" that place has been grounds for one continuous war for about 2,000 years because of religious real estate. Hasn't ended yet, and will probably last till the end of the world (literally). :)

**Mecord exits smiling and wistling a familiar tune.**
Mecord
Sunday, March 12, 2000 08:25:11 PM
IP: usr54.mtwest.net

Gunjack> Trenchcoats: I'm more of a classic tan (with fedora) person myself, and I would rather like a lether jerkin.
mp3: tell you what I'll do: since I have an upper limit of 15 megs (but a 5 meg quota), I'll post 2 old mp3s for you every other day (starting with the next change).

Fire Storm> <<the Matrix method... ;D> Dodge the bullets? I wish!>>: Think he meant not care, and blow away anyone else with a weapon.

"Adult" controversy: Well, to quote Warpmind from a tangentially related discussion earlier: <<quite often it's the most publically outspoken against something who enjoy it most "in the closet", so to speak...>> And also I would like to say that one of America's big problems is that it was founded by Puritans, and their ideas have invaded much of our society. Americans are (generally) very repressed about many subjects. I personally have a rather Victorian vocabulary, and though I personally enjoy some forbidden subjects, I believe there are things about people that you just don't need to know, and some statements that you don't need to hear.

Toku Kai> <<calling someone else’s art garbage>>: Scott McCloud proposed the idea that whatever someone does that is not related to survival or procreation is art. I think this rather makes sense, but it does not leave out (as you said) the possibility of comparing the relative merits of each work of art. (and now I have a scene from History of the World in my head (the first critic)).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 12, 2000 08:12:34 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

**enters and briefly looks over the comments he missed while he was at work**
Uhmm ... let's see, I tried reading Madame Destine's fic but couldn't get the text to show up (typical Javascript screwup on this browser) ... but just judging by the pic (which I *could* see) and the comments around the room? **pulls collar** I'm not sure if I'm gonna be *able* to read it without thinking about ... **shudder**

**sees Christine's post about Gathering bids, looks at FS and LM** Okay guys, who's up for a 2001 bid? (if we need help there's always Cyrway ... ;)

FS, re: car things: Well, you can live without cruise control (God knows I do ... d'you know how much strain on yer ankles it is to drive a Cadillac to Lansing with *no cruise?* Only made one trip, that should tell ya). As for yer tune-up ... hell, come on down and pay me with a case of Pepsi and I'll do the tune up for ya (only condition, ya gotta get the parts from my store. ;)!

eBay sales: Heh, I've got a crapload of money orders to send out for Cadillac-related stuff tomorrow (including a service manual, spare taillamp lenses and a set of 24k-gold plated key blanks), I do believe I'll be takin' a break from buyin' at auction for a while. (Finally got me a long-sought after animation cel, but it was for "Slayers" as opposed to Gargs.)

G"X"B and Cyclonus: Welcome back, guys.

Shadowrider: So ya screwed up once. Big deal, everybody has (just ask the oldtimers about the RP I accidentally started with Demona in a strip poker game). Stick around, you'll get the hang of things.

Stephen: Exactly. And of course, that's the reason why I personally have been *unable* to write *true* erotica ... mainly because what comes out usually sounds more like it belongs on the letters page of Penthouse, and all it'd need is the phrase "I couldn't believe it was happening to me" attached to the beginning. :P

Okay, the conversation after that was gettin' a little too philosophical for my blood ... so this'd be a good time to end this post ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, March 12, 2000 08:06:15 PM
IP: zzz-209252248080.splitrock.net

Toku Kaioto - CR Sage > "But we have Every right in the world to pass judgment on everyone and everything: Every culture, every work of art, every crime, every act of philanthropy. Some of us will make less informed judgments than others, and only a few judgments will every actually matter enough to have a corresponding Action based on that judgment. This is why we strive to create juries and appoint judges or even leave certain things to God rather than condone vigilantism."

I think you've mistaken passing judgment with having an opinion. You see, the major difference is that a "judgment" is permanent, and "opinions" can change. Frankly, it's more important to have opinions, because then you are left with the ability to change your mind and adapt to new information. Judgments are inflexible. Once you make them, you can't change them.

There's also this side of passing judgment: When you do so, you place yourself higher than the people being judged. You assume you know what's right, and others don't. You become closed-minded and holier-than-thou.

Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't really like those kinds of people that much.

That's just my opinion.

Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 07:50:02 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Jewel: i was refering to how Pistoff's comments on that subject clashed with Pistoff's gargoyles fanfics. my apologies to you, Pistoff, and everyone else.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:38:44 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

perhaps it would be better if we close this pandora's box..
jenna
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:23:16 PM
IP: 1cust196.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

*glances around with a raised eyebrow*

Jeez, I go to sleep, get up, go to visit my sister and two nephews, and when I get back … *chuckles* Well, at least the room isn’t slow.

We didn’t have this kind of a fit every time Christine Morgan cooks up something special or that time Spike released Asrial Interactive. The only real problem this time was that so many new people have come in and the pages haven’t been updated that some people didn’t know there is an adult only CR for this kind of thing. I’ll try to lean into Gorebash about getting that rules page set up …

As for all this, “It isn’t your place to judge” stuff…

I have a strong opinion about how much relativism sucks. Pistoff has every right to be critical of every last thing in the universe, including every living human being no matter how hypersensitive. We have the right to freedom which keeps random people from forcing us to do what they want, but they can still Judge us, think whatever they want about us, and hold negative opinions about us and what we do.

No one ever said that we had some sort of inalienable right to be sheltered from personal or professional criticism. We learn about ourselves and the world around us through critical analysis … it is one of the ways we grow and share our perspectives. Self-criticism is a growth skill many Americans have discarded lately in favor of so-called “Self-esteem” programs and other horse-hockey feel-good garbage that we feed our children. Sure, you need self-esteem, but don’t teach people that man can be an island, or that we are above being criticized or proven incorrect or ignorant in our judgments.

That does not mean we all have to be intolerant, or force conformity to one set of standards, that violates freedom and constitutes Enforcing a judgment over a lot of people …

But we have Every right in the world to pass judgment on everyone and everything: Every culture, every work of art, every crime, every act of philanthropy. Some of us will make less informed judgments than others, and only a few judgments will every actually matter enough to have a corresponding Action based on that judgment. This is why we strive to create juries and appoint judges or even leave certain things to God rather than condone vigilantism.

Pistoff, Stephen, or anyone else has every right to judge what you do and what you say, they just doesn’t have the right to DO just anything they want to about it.

Also, the accusation of hypocrisy has Nothing to do with the validity of what someone says. Saying that something is a hypocrisy with the implied conclusion that people should dismiss that hypocritical claim as untrue is the commission of a Severe Logic Fallacy.

Certainly, I’m a hypocrite for one thing or another. I had a relativist stage. Again, it doesn’t make anything I say any more of less true, though it may lower my esteem in some people’s eyes and make what I say less important to them … *shrugs* Whatever …

I will note, however, that in Pistoff’s effort to make a point, he goes out of bounds nearest the end by calling someone else’s art garbage. Any type of rational discussion or argument with his opinion about that manner of writing would inevitably carry past the rating of the comment room, so his bashing of someone else’s writing is out of line and is somewhere akin to if not becoming blatant flaming of at least one person in the CR.

Despite having rights to our opinions, we do not have the right to flame in this Comment Room.

We all have strong opinions, but we have to be careful otherwise our discussions degenerate into screaming matches and flame wars.

Alright, now I’ll get the jaws of life and get my boots out from everyone’s butts. ^_^

Seriously though, it tried to be as rational and reasonable as I could in this post, and I hope I haven’t hurt anyone’s feelings.

Enjoy the rest of your weekends.

Toku Kaioto - CR Sage - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:15:43 PM
IP: 1cust100.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Fire Storm: tech support for e-commerece shopping cart software. And we lost a programmer/bug fixer and sys admin when Ted quit. And the chick who did installs (she's his girlfriend). Things are gonna be *fun*....

<sigh> I had hoped to avoid frothing rants in here. But.

<RANT SUBJECT="thought police-ism">
Stephen: I speak now as someone who cheerfully calls herself a member of the "Prude Patrol" who grew up smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt and who is repressed as hell about some things, and rather *likes* her repression (oh, it's just loads of fun to turn bright fuschia when reading stuff in a CR room, let me just say). That said, people can read or write whatever they want, and the same goes for what they don't read.

One person's "erotica" is another person's "smut." You have no more right to insist someone change their opinions on what is what than someone has the right to tell you to change yours. This whole mess I'd managed to more or less miss, and knowing my own opinions, had decided to remain out of until I saw your comments on it. You have no right to ask someone to become more or less tolerant than they are about some things. No one has that right. You more or less calling him a prude who needs to lighten up is just as bad as some Bible-thumper telling you you'll burn in hell for reading such things. Being a member of the thought police can run both ways, as seen by all the hyper PC-ers running around. We all have our personal opinions, and we all need to respect each other's opinions--and telling someone they need to learn the difference between erotica and porn is not respecting other's opinions. There are some things that are inherently personal and tied to people's personal morals, and these are things that will not and should not change becasue they are different from your personal morals and tolerance levels. Perhaps it could be said that you need to change your opinion on such things. Is that any more right for someone to say than it was for you to say he has to change his?

Rodlox: You're accusing Pistoff of hypocrasy? Scusi? Next you'll be calling me a hypocrite.

</RANT>

And speaking on the subject of leaving some things out of the CR--not just because they are little kids around but because it *does* offend some people's morals. Now, I'm not as much of a prude as might come across in this post (god knows I couldn't have survived 4 years at BMC with the kind of friends I have [and the kind of "gifts" they gave me to un-repress me...nuff said...] if I was), but I will say if I'm not expecting such things, I will get a shock--as I stated before, it's just oodles of fun turning fuschia and letting out a startled, "Aiya!" when one is not expecting such things. *Warnings* are happy-fun-good things. Really they are. :)

OK, end of all of *that*.

<g> The coolest thing happened yesterday. I was in a Barnes and Nobles doodling, and had this chick come over, stare at my drawing, tell me it was really good, and ask me if I was an art student (I still have "new graduate smell," even after a year out of college...)

Off to watch "Fushigi Yugi" now...ahh, anime...
jewel
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:05:11 PM
IP: atlnb306-09.splitrock.net

::Applauds Patrick and Stephen:: Well said, well said indeed. Yessss.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 04:09:52 PM
IP: dialin-450-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Tim P. : the issue here is not that M.Destine posted a notice about her adult-rated fanfic. the issue is the conversational thread which resulted from it. {and to think, i used to have gravel in my skull}...

Rodlox
Sunday, March 12, 2000 04:09:26 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

<<< WARNING! RANT REGARDING "OBSCENE" POST!>>>

So Madame Destine posted an ad for a dirty story. Big friggin' deal. Her ad was not gratuitously obscene nor did it intentionally offend someone. I don't know why anyone thinks they have to make an issue out of this. If you want to read it, read it. If not, don't read it. The CR Administration is not your mother. DO NOT depend on it to make decisions about what is obscene or not, and DO NOT whine to it when somebody says something they don't like. The FCC was founded because people are too stupid to change the channel on their TV or radio. That's what common sence and common decency is for. Unfortunatly, neither are too common these days. Then that pisses me off even more because that means we *need* organizations like the FCC.

So Shadowrider didn't know there was an Adult CR and posted somthing of an adult nature in here. So what? It was an accident. He knows better now. Let's get over it.

Oh, by the way, does Madame Destine or anyone else know were I can find more pictures related to that story? ; )

<<<END POST!>>>
Tim P.
Sunday, March 12, 2000 03:55:12 PM
IP: s26-onawa.pionet.net

I agree with Mr.Sobotka, particularly when it comes to hypocracy. Pistoff, given the PG-14 {or higher} nature of your own fics, making comments like that is dangerous.

People have yet to accuse me of hypocracy. The nearest I come to PG-13 in gargoyles fandom is Rory's vague dream of the Warped One aspect of himself at a battle in the past.
. I also have not stolen any beings or fanfic devices {not even the _original*_ Gra'athi}. * = original because Pistoff chose, as is Pistoff's right, to modify the Gra'athi.

Okay, i'm done. was that a rant?

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:53:45 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

:: applauds Stephen ::

Well explained and well said.
Patrick Toman
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:40:56 PM
IP: abe220a0.ipt.aol.com

RECENT COMMENTS - I agree with the fact this is a family room, and that "adult" comments should be left out where they belong (be it an adult-oriented comment room, etc.) so that we don't endanger younger minds that come in here.

But I must protest about the condemnation of writers and readers of "erotica"...and Pistoff, you really should learn to distinguish the difference between erotica and pornography. At least let me give you my definition:

Pornography is any material - words or pictures - in any given media format (photos, books, movies, etc.) that only focuses on the act of sex or portraying the human form as nothing but an object of sex, and that alone.

Erotica contains elements of sex, but it explores feelings, emotions, textures, and the more "cerebral" or "spiritual" angle emerging from thereof. It also serves a purpose: to present a view, tell a story, or portray an emotion.

This is not saying that I feel we should post comments on erotica or adult things in here... this is just a clinical view I have on the whole definition of the thing. Besides, I'm one of those people that does write erotica from time to time...and while I don't post comments on such here, I find it rather bigotted of you to make such comments about people like me that write erotica and enjoy it. After all, your stories are rather bloody and violent at times (the Gargoyles Y2K series you work on with Denis), but I don't condemn you for writing them. It's what you like, and there are others that like such tales as well.

So do what you like, and we'll do what we like. But don't condemn us for it, because we certainly don't condemn you.

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:27:33 PM
IP: m137.ieway.com

Shadowrider- Don't worry about it too much, you're still new and did not know any better. And since Gorebash *still* hasn't uploaded the new version of the website with the rules clearly posted, you are not at fault here. Its only your first warning. Just try to avoid it in the future is all.

(This seems to happen with newbies every few months...)

Patrick- While the majority of the CR is over the age of 13, we do have a few lurkers at about the age of 8. Gotta be careful with hatchlings in the room, even if they are quiet.
Robby (for the third time)
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:20:18 PM
IP: spider-tm034.proxy.aol.com

This may be the first time EVER I have felt the need to 3X post...

Shadowrider > Please don't leave. You've proved my point perfectly. I bet you're not alone in not knowing until now there was an adult CR.

:: posts link again, in hope that the current discussion of adult fics will move to that CR and finally get it moving again ::
Patrick Toman
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:20:01 PM
IP: abe220a0.ipt.aol.com

no problem- things are fixed- don't leave.
Jenna
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:15:01 PM
IP: 1cust14.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Okay, going by the posts that just followed mine, I suppose I need to clarify...

"The official stance of the TGS CR Administration is that it is all right to ANNOUNCE R-rated fanfics to this CR. however, it is NOT all right to discuss those fanfics in here at an R-rated or PG-13 level. You can make comments on the story for its actual quality as a story (Characters, plot, ideas, etc), but discussing less appropriate elements (Anything that would get it a harsh rating at the movies) is a no no."

Now, just to be fair about this, I suppose I also need to be a bit harder on Joyrides and Dis Connect deaths. So from now on, I will be, though how much harder I need to be remains to be seen.

As far as what classifies as "appropriate", I trust you all to use your best judgement, but the final decision is mine and based on previous records, and I do give warnings first. Now, thats enough of this, lets get back to our usual buisness please.
Robby the CR Admin (again)
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:14:39 PM
IP: spider-tm034.proxy.aol.com

Well, seems someone was offenced by some of my comments. I apologize for that. I assure I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I tried to write nothing particularily offensive or obscene, but obviously I didn't manage to do it. Maybe the ones who said this Room is not the right place are right. I didn't know there is a CR in the Adult Pages, I'd have used it instead. I assure I'll try to avoid such situations in future. Again, I sincerely apologize to anyone was somehow offenced by my comments. Anyway,as far as I'm concerned, the fact I appreciate a well-written erotic story does not mean I'm a depraved maniac, or justify anyone to yell at me. I'm always ready to acknowledge my mistakes, but I don't like people judging me for a single action of mine!
P.S. I caused this trouble. I'm ready to pay for this. If anyone doesn't like my presence in this Room anymore, just tell me and I will stop connecting. I'd be afraid of this, I really appreciate the atmosphere, but I don't like to stay where I'm not welcome.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:13:26 PM
IP: h213-16-122.mi2.albacom.net

PATRICK- hey there's no problem with saying you have a fic, or you liked a fic- it's some of the graphic detail I think alot of people can do without.
JENNA
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:12:07 PM
IP: 1cust14.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

on another topic--

I'm looking for a pic - a screen shot actually, and I can't find it anywhere- I know it exists because I printed it up once, but I didn't write down the url-

Its from "The Reckoning" and is a close up of Deliah's face- she's snarling. That's it- that's the whole shot- I've already looked in both station 8 and Avalon to no avail-- does anyone, ANYONE KNOW WHERE THIS PIC IS????

jenna - [jgargcia@email.msn.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:10:20 PM
IP: 1cust14.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

:: comes back a second time to put up a link for the Adult Gargs site for those who want to use it ::

I will repeat again... no one should be forbidden from announcing the release of their fics here. There's nothing anti-PG about saying "I just wrote a new story and here's where you can find it."

And just out of curiousity... who are the "kids" in here anyway? I've always been under the impression that most of the folks here are at least in their late teens if not older.
Patrick Toman
Sunday, March 12, 2000 01:10:12 PM
IP: abe220a0.ipt.aol.com

Jannie- well said!
jenna
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:59:58 PM
IP: 1cust14.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

*peeks back in* sorry for the 2nd post....

Let me clarify something though - I do not have a problem with anyone announcing the posting of their fanfic. It was/is the comments following that distrubed me.... the "detailed" comments of their personal and physical reaction to reading erotic fanfic. The reviews could have been a bit more discreet and appropriate for this particular room. I am certainly not a prude - ask Denis ;D but there are guidelines that should be followed in order to not let anything get out of hand. =)
Jannie
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:53:22 PM
IP: 216-90-185-172.hou.port.mytelco.com

Just came in to catch up after half a week of being gone, and saw some material that shouldn't be in here. Pistoff beat me to the punch and already said what neads to be said more or less. (Can't say I agree with his EXACT phrasing, but...) What it boils down to is this.

This is a PG rated room. I let it slide to PG-13 a ways back because I thought everyone was mature enough to handle it. They weren't, and kids started coming in, so I reverted it back to PG. The current "adult comments" are wholly inappropriate for this CR. There is an "Adults only" gargs CR, and you can go there to discuss this sort of thing.

In short, stop talking about adult related material in here. Even with warnings, this is not the place for it at all. This has been your first warning folks.

Thank you and have a nice day.
Robby the Cr Administrator
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:51:17 PM
IP: spider-tm034.proxy.aol.com

::stands up to applaud Patrick::
CrzyDemona
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:50:08 PM
IP: 209.150.94.79

*stands next to Jenna, applauding*

Pistoff> exactly! This is not the place nor the forum to be "advertising" erotic fanfics... much less giving reviews and comments with such detail. Sure, if they like the story, then say "I like the story" but I sure as hell don't want to know about any wet dreams they've had from reading it or the visual of gravel in someone's _____ =\ I agree, there's a place for these comments and it's the ADULT Gargoyle room - not the CR.

I had comments to make about other topics, but I can't think of them right now.... my thoughts will hopefully return to me later =)

*leaves the room in search of her thoughts*
Jannie
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:45:46 PM
IP: 216-90-185-172.hou.port.mytelco.com

:: enters and looks around ::

Ok... since when are people discouraged from posting in here or any other CR when they've just posted a fic? This is obviously the place where most of the people who read TGS hang out - seems the logical place to announce a new fic.

As for that adult comment room... it'd be wonderful if it could be used as originally intended, but for that to happen, it needs to have a moderator who actually cares about it enough to keep it updated on a weekly basis like this room and S8. It's not hard to see why no one wants to use it - heck, a lot of people probably don't even know it's there... 'cause when anyone comes around in the other CRs and mentions it, they get jumped on and yelled at just like's happening now.

Pistoff > So you don't like erotic fiction - that's your right. But don't sit there all high-and-mighty and put down those of us who do. I happen to enjoy a well-written erotic story once in a while. From the look of the comments here, many others do, too. That's our right, and it's not your place to judge us any more than it's our place to judge you.
Patrick Toman
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:45:04 PM
IP: abe220a0.ipt.aol.com

regarding pistoff's comments--

Stands up and applauds.

jenna
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:33:01 PM
IP: 1cust14.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Ugh...just a quick post before I go to work. I'll get to replies when I get home. Just wanted to let people know I'm still here. ;)

Things continue to go downhill. I got my paycheck a few days ago...at the other Pizza Hut, my paychecks averaged around $340 or $350 each, every two weeks. The one I got Thursady was $240.57--and my hours have remained the same for a month, and show no signs of increasing. That means I'll be getting at least $200 a month less than what I'm used to earning. If that doesn't change, I'm roadkill....

Okay, one other thing that's really got me riled up. Maybe I'm just freaked out and grumpy about life in general, but...

**COMMENTS ON "ADULT" COMMENTS**
Okay, I just read some of the comments about a certain new erotic story that was posted, and I have to say my skin is crawling right off my bones. I won't get started on my opinion of pornographic garbage--oh, excuse me..."erotic fiction" *rolls eyes* and the people who read and write it--because most people here have seen me comment about it before. So I'll bring up a specific item here: It seems to me that this isn't an appropriate place to discuss "adult" fics. This is a PG-rated comment room. Shouldn't announcements and discussions of porno stories be done in the _"adult"_ comment room? If the story is posted in the adult archive, then the adult CR is where all the talk about it should be left. Remember, there are young kids out there who are reading this comment room, and what do they see when they come in here? People talking about sexual acts with gargoyles during stone sleep, and gravel inside Elisa's...well, you know. Personally, I have to say that I'm absolutely disgusted. Leave this kind of crap where it belongs, in the so-called "adult" CR. Let's not turn _this_ CR into the Jerry Springer show, okay?
**END COMMENTS ON "ADULT" COMMENTS**

Well, that was cathartic. I'm off to breakfast and then six more hours of maddening boredom at work. I'll catch up on replies when I get home, if nothing else goes wrong....
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 11:57:03 AM
IP: cb2-93.transport.com

1000/10,000-Year-War: {STARGATE SG1 SPOILERS}: Ra's people are the Goa'uld. Thor {of the Azgard} said that the Goa'uld got as much power as they did, because the Azgard were too busy with an enemy in the Azgard home galaxy - one that Thor says is "far worse than the Goa'uld."
. This enemy is called Replicators. Found by the Azgard on a solitary planet, the owners/inventors were not found - perhaps destroyed by the Replicators, which resemble terrier-sized stubby-winged bugs. Replicators live primarily to replicate themselves, and will chew on entire ships {even those of the Azgards} to achieve this. If a Replicator is shot, they fall to a miriad of tiny metal pieces - which then self-organize {it puts itself together again}. Replicators have a brand of intelligence, able to turn off the ships' sensors that can detect them, minor sabotage programming of computers, etc.
. It was the Azgards themselves who initially spread the Replicators to other planets in their home galaxy. {as Thor said "overconfidence in our technology has been our undoing"}.

. Side Note: Replicators are Royal Purple!
END STARGATE SG1 SPOILERS.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 09:41:23 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Madame Destine: I just finished reading the rest of the stories you have written. I must say that they are some of the most well written stories I have ever read. And I don't mean just fan-fiction.
PLEASE keep up the good work! (And continue "The Story of D" series.

Shadowrider: <BTW, do you think Fox was to allow Elisa to remove gravel from -inside- by herself? ;)>
Probally not. :)

Warpmind/Shadowrider: I think titanium is about the same density as water, maybe lighter, so I think you would float.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 07:25:07 AM
IP: t3-89.visitus.net

*Warpmind peeks in and nods at Shadowrider.*
If I'm dropped into the Atlantic ocean, and I float about as well as the average brick, what other options do I have? (Oh, I might want to add a GPS navigational device to my implants, for such events.) ;)

*Warpmind disappears again.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:36:52 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

<Shadowrider enters the Room-it is empty! "Where is everyone?" asks to himself. "Well, seems I'll have to wait a little...">

Greeting to everyone!
Thanks to everyone answered me about Gargoyle's religion.

Rodlox:> A 1-thousand years war? It depends...I mean, if the two sides happen to live on the same planet, after a centuy or so of fierce war, there could be no more a planet to fight for!

Cyclonus:> Welcome! I hope you'll enjoy here!

Gunjack Valentine:> Shadowrunner: Oh, yeah, I remember now; a friend of mine used to play "Shadowrunner", and I played with him some times (Maybe my nickname was inspired by that...)
Battlesuits & Cyborgs:> Well, nothing is REALLY unstoppable, as far as I'm concerned: no matter how strong or steady you are, there's always a weak point. For my Shadowrider armor...well, I posted it as I launched the poll (a three weeks ago), so I think it is no more in archive...no matter, I saved it on my HD! So, here is my armor's description: <<...my way of fighting, both in videogames and IRL with Taekwon-do, is a kind of "Hit-and-Fade": a sudden, massive attack followed by a quick retreat, in order to force my opponent to follow me and expose himself to another attack; so my suit's features would be focused on: speed, firepower and stealth, sensors are important too, while sheer physical strenght and a massive armor are not really important to me (a strenght enhancer is needeed, but I'd need just the strenght to carry the the armor itself-well, maybe a little more, while speed enhancement is really important. For the armor, no matter how strong it is, there will always be a weapon able to pierce it, so I prefer dodging blows). My suit is supposed to be able to fly by jets and to glide with collapsible, hang-glider-like wings (even with jets turned off), for silent approaching; it is also supposed to have smaller jets in the legs to slide over ground; to allow this,the armor has to be as lightweight as possible (a thin composite armor, just a little stronger on chest and forearms), covered with a non-metallic, EM-absorber material (just like the F-117) to decrease radar signature; the suit's style is supposed to be essentially technical: something like the Marine unit of "Starcraft", but far less bulky, painted in dull black to hide in shadows, a closed helmet with a darkened visor; for the weapons, well, a kind of massive energy (laser or plasma) MG carried by hands,with a removable hold on the right forearm to allow using it with a single hand and another hold on the back for free-hand actions; the MG is supposed to have customizable energy level (to hit without killing if needed) and fire mode (continuous fire, auto-fire, single shot...); then a kind of missile launcher over the left shoulder, with variable ammo(armor-piercing, grenades, EMP emitters, tear gas...), a collapsible titanium shield on the left forearm and a retractable 80 cm-long blade on the right forearm for hand-to-hand fighting; in the helmet,a full line of sensors (thermal scan,star-light enhancer,etc.) and a very precise HUD targeting system to allow sniper attack.>>. What do you think about it? BTW, after I posted it, I decided to write a fanfic with a character wearing this very armor...
Starship troopers:> Another one who like that book! Finally! I was beginning to think I was the only one in the world! In Italy science-fiction is not really popular: except for Asimov, sci-fi writers are almost unknown, and Heinlein makes no exception. I liked "Starship Troopers" for the Powered Suits (of course!), for his style and for the courage with which it faced a difficult topic like the "Why do we make war?" question.

WARNING---ADULT-ONLY COMMENT
Hey, another one who read M. Destine's story! I liked it very much-intriguing and well-written. About the stone-sleep...don't remember it to me, tonight for the first time since I was 17 I had a wet dream...involving a certain dark-haired detective and some other girls (human and Gargs)...the only difference was that even Sata was involved...'nuff said! ;)
END ADULT-ONLY COMMENT

Poll: well, I love black outfits...but I don't like trenchcoats. They're too long-they hamper my movements and get entangled in things. My preferred outfits are short jackets made in thick, black leather with a lot of pockets (I have a lot of them)

WARNING---ANOTHER ADULT-ONLY COMMENT
Fire Storm:> :D :D :D :D - Good joke! :D :D :D! So, I'm not the only one with a slighty wicked fantasy ;) : seems many people liked M.Destine's story. You're right: it was not only intriguing, but very well-written. AND you're right...Elisa was going to really enjoy Angela's waking up!
BTW, do you think Fox was to allow Elisa to remove gravel from -inside- by herself? ;)
END OF ADULT-ONLY COMMENT

Warpmind:> Well, your enhancement is a bit too massive...oh well, I accept it (As I launched the poll, I forgot to say "Be realistic"...and now I pay the consequences!) ;). BTW, your cyborg can't swim (Obvious) so you want an air-filter...question: if you're dropped in the middle of Atlantic Ocean, are you going to walk on the fundal for a 2000 Km or so to the nearest shore? ;)
EU: you're right, it's better to leave it alone (BTW, I previously said I was not going to discuss politics in the Room...then I launched a political discussion!). The Nereus Project will surely override EU, so this discussion is useless ;)

Ciao a tutti, see later!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:20:30 AM
IP: h255-22-160.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters.*

Shadowrider: I have done some thinking about my cybernetics (for the poll), and come to the conclusion that the enhancements described were a bit scarce. The whole (as of current specifications) upgrade should be something like this: Titanium ally endoskeleton (Terminator-style) with mechanical joints, independent on muscle tissue, polyalloy armor casing for any and all internal organs preserved, artificial eyes with light amplification and infrared filters; possibly others, advanced sonic filters with extended frequency range, selective volume tuner and directional identifiers, probably a gas chromatograph in the nose, for air content identification and such, and, considering this upgrade will be rather heavy, I'll probably need an oxy-filter or something with a similar effect installed in my airpipe. After all, if I were to be dumped in the ocean, I don't have any particular urge to drown, thus I should need something to filter the water away from my lungs. An obvious disadvantage might be reduced sense of feeling, due to severed nerve endings, and potentially bad cases of phantom pains (common in amputees), but this would, most likely, be possible to overcome. Needless to say, I would, quite likely, be strong enough to stop a tank... I think that should do. For now... As for the EU debate... let us leave it alone, shall we? When the Nereus Project is up and running, the EU concept will be outdated, anyway, since we in effect have a world government with smaller areas of self-supported rule. I am actually looking forward to it. :)

Mecord: That Stargate reference was laughably obvious. By the way, unless you've missed it (I'm not too sure when you entered the RP), I happen to be a freelance Illuminatus. :)

Gside: Good point about the immortality deal. I want immortality, but not if it leaves me as a geriatric patient from 2050 and onward into eternity. (By 2050 I'll be 70, so it's a rough estimate.)

Lexy: The majority of females are attracted to height, you say. So, would you categorize a guy at 5'10" as tall? *Reads Lexy's post* Oh, you're 5'8"; you'd probably consider me tall... :)

Gunjack: Considering the most advanced thing I ever programmed was a little program in QBASIC that made circles appear randomly on-screen... the RPG will be strictly pencil-and-paper. Dig? :) Oh, and I hope you do have an AD&D dice kit handy. Y'know, with the D4, D8, D10, D12, D20 and D100... Oh, and as for that black trenchcoat thing... you've seen the photography of me, right? See what I'm wearing? No, it's not a trenchcoat; it's velvet, but still. >:)

**RP**
The invasion in the hangar has been repelled, and silence begins to sink into the Avatar again. The, as everyone begins to head off to various other parts of the Avatar, a docking alarm begins to sound. A shuttle that appears to be made from part advanced technology, part rotting flesh, and with a stylized goat's head painted on the front, is entering, preparing to land. Warpmind pales at the sight.
"Oh, bugger... the Quencher."
A few of the remaining fighters look at Warpmind strangely.
"Um... The Quencher is the Seeker's Dark Opposite. The Quencher has many titles, like the Slayer, the Butcher, but the most usual is the Quencher of Life, Quencher for short."
The shuttle lands, and an ethereally beautiful woman steps out, casting a glance over her (briefly) stunned audience before leaping to the nearest air duct and disappearing into the ventilation system. Warpmind exhales slowly.
"Rats... she's loose in the Avatar... quick, someone gat that Kaioto fellow! He's the only one who can face her, and win!"
Warpmind begins sneaking away toward his own quarters.
"Hey, where are you going?"
One of the regular security personell tries to stop Warpmind.
"Look, I now intend to find the best sealed-off room on the Avatar, and lock myself in until I know that the Quencher has been dealt with. I can handle a lot of things, but that is what I would consider WAY out of my league. On second thought... I think I'll rather report to sickbay. I fear any medical knowledge will be sorely needed, and soon!"
**RP END**

Guys, anyone who wants to make use of the Quencher, feel free to do so... just remember: when she starts flinging those Daemonic Chants of hers around, RUN! (Divinely empowered personae not counting, of course.)

*Warpmind heads out to read some more fanfics.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, March 12, 2000 06:05:08 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Shadowrider: <BTW, why would you need to pass a metal detector?>
Airports are not the only places with metal detectors. Government buildings, for example.
Oh yeah... though of this to add to mine:
DISADVANTAGES:
Lack of included weapons. (Only weapons are retratable blades)
<Question: Do gargoyles have a religion of any kind? Do they believe in any kind of God? I need it for a fanfic.>
Here is Gregs answer to this question:
http://www.s8.org/cgi-bin/ag_read.cgi?Gargoyle_Customs
<but I never thinked about THAT application of the stone-sleep!>
<WARNING! REALLY BAD ADULT JOKE!>

If Elisa did that with goliath, she wouldn't have to worry about him getting soft. :)

<END ADULT JOKE WARNING!>

Madame Destine: I read your story also, and I must say that was one very well written story! Could you just imagine, though, when Angela wakes up? Elisa will be all full of gravel!

Skippy The Klingon: Gargoyles age at one half the rate of humans, so a biologically 40 year old gargoyle is 80.

Jewel: What type of tech support person do you guys need? (Just curious)

Mecord: <Anyone guess what movie I just watched? :)>
STARGATE!

Rodlox: <....is there any way that it could be dragged on for _ten_thousand_ years?>
What is the benefit for a long living species to fight to the death?
Humans live for about 70 year and are fairly easy to replenish. I think the Azgard live for 10's of thousands of years, and are probally hard to replenish.

Gunjack: <can metal detectors pick up titanium?>
Yes. Metal detectors can pick any true metal, such as copper, titanium, aluminum, mercury, lead, uranium, etc, etc.
Some are too sensetive and even detect silicon.
<And if so, you could just use carbon fiber for the majority of the parts...>
I thought of that, but can Carbon fiber really stand up to all of the stresses that titanium can? PLUS, I am afraid that the body might digest the carbon fiber.
<Or, alternativly, you could just use the Matrix method... ;D>
Dodge the bullets? I wish!
<Uh, if I remember correctly, brain cells can't currently be regenerated, so you'd only last until your brain deteriorated... Still, with a bod like that, you'd have a buttload of VERY productive time...:)>
I estimate about 110 years, maybe more. If I got alzhimers, though...
I must admit, though, I would probally have failing brain parts replaced as necessary, so after about 150 years, there probally would not be too much original material left.
<Uh, I'm almost afraid to ask, but WHAT THE HECK have you been doing with your car!?!>
I drove up a curb sideways at 40mph a few years ago and the car has never been the same since.
<Building weaknesses into my gear kinda goes against the grain... I prefer the disadvantages to come from the character's mental state and personality.>
Good point. Unlike biological engineering, there is less to go wrong with tried and true machinery. Battlesuits and cybernetics can be near perfect, but as all things, they are only as good as the person using them.
<How many people here DON'T like black trenchcoats/dusters?>
Well, personally I like 'em!
I have had my eye one one at a local trade show for about 6 years now. And one day, I will get that bad boy!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 04:54:26 AM
IP: t3-89.visitus.net

Just going to make a quick post before bed. I'm tired, starting to have trouble sleeping again, must be the warm weather.

Kitainia><<...most entertaining Hollywood Ten RP.>> My pleasure, I manage to make a good post every now and then.

Aaron><<Intro to Women and Gender Studies...Is that a course on how to meet women?>> If I had said that during my Marriage and Family class I can say with confidence that I probably wouldn't be alive today. Seriously though, it was a nice class and I enjoyed it very much.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:21:35 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

*Valentine teleports into the CR, still clad in an H.E.V. suit and carrying his trusty shotgun*

All hail Half-Life, the great-granddaddy of all time-eaters! I've blown most of the last week greasing headcrabs and psychotic soldiers, and I just got OpFor for when the first game goes belly-up...:)

Firestorm - Nice suit yourself! :) As to metal-detector problems, can metal detectors pick up titanium? And if so, you could just use carbon fiber for the majority of the parts... Or, alternativly, you could just use the Matrix method... ;D <<weaponry as required>> Heh. That sounds ominous... <<Being immortal or near immortal>> Uh, if I remember correctly, brain cells can't currently be regenerated, so you'd only last until your brain deteriorated... Still, with a bod like that, you'd have a buttload of VERY productive time...:) <<I am afraid to take my car to the shop. I think the middle of the car between the front seats is 2-3 inches lower than it should be and I am pretty sure my front end is twisted 10 degrees upward (Passanger side), not to mention tune up, cruise control, horn, air AND 75% of my speakers not working.>> Uh, I'm almost afraid to ask, but WHAT THE HECK have you been doing with your car!?!

Warpmind/RPG - Sounds pretty cool! By the way, are we talking pencil-and-paper here, or computer? <<Thus a mage cannot use a coffe maker, for instance, he just casts the spell Summon Coffee instead.>> I was working on a similar idea for Endgame (my TL14+ GURPS world). Basicaly, even though the enter society is insanely advanced, there's a large cult of anti-technologists who refuse nearly all advances...

Shadowrider><<"Shadowrunner" ? Hmm...I've already heard this word...I can't place...>> It's a cyberpunk/fantasy(?) RPG system played by the benighted heathens who refuse to conform to the rightous teachings of GURPS...:)
Actually, I kinda like it... Megacorps, shamans, nasty critters, cyberware, all the good stuff.

Besides, my girlfriend's a Shadowrunner, so it can't be bad at all, right? ;)

<<About your choice...whoa! For sure, once you choose a way, you go all the way with it! :)>> It's called practical Munchkinism, and it's not just a philosiphy, it's a way of life! Actually, I love battlesuits too, it's just that I've been on a cyborg rip due to a game world I'm working on...
<<Well, your cyborg seems very powerful and potentially unstoppable (although my Shadowrider battlesuit could give you a very bad time...<grin>)>> Well, only the Tank Shell is actually all that powerful, and that sucker is a little too conspicuous for normal use... Still, you could probably smash it with a medium rocket, or several hits from a squad-level particle weapon. Basically, all that armor just proofs it for smallarms fire and 40mm HEAT rounds. The Stealth shell and a silenced MP-5/10 would be his usual tactical gear...
By the way, did you post stats for the Shadowrider suit? I'd like to take a look. :)
<<...about disadvantages...you're right, it's a small price...>> Building weaknesses into my gear kinda goes against the grain... I prefer the disadvantages to come from the character's mental state and personality. <> Ooooh, YES!!! That's the book that first got me interested in Powered Armor <<but I never thinked about THAT application of the stone-sleep!>> *Valentine uses a sand-blaster to rid his brain of the images produced by THAT statement...*

A quick poll of my own: How many people here DON'T like black trenchcoats/dusters? I noticed an awful lot of those being used in character descriptions...:) I'm kinda partial to suits myself (I was friggin' BORN to be an Agent!), but I certianly don't mind the longer types myself...

Jewel/job - Ouch. ;P I hope things work out... <<Personally, I would *love* for Antonio to be the Phantom.>> Same here. Although I must admit I hadn't thought of the sex-appeal aspect, he's always struck me as perfect for the part... A heck of a lot better than Travolta, anyway. ;P

Mecord><<Ah, a Calvin and Hobbs fan. :)>> You better believe it...
<<Possibly the best comic that america has ever produced. Dreams are the source of much inspiration for me. There is a lot of conversation about crushes in here lately. In the past year I had a dream with a girl I have never met nor dreamed of before. If I remember right the “plot” of the dream was that a few survivors were looking for shelter from some sort of invasion. During the course of this dream I came to realize that I truly loved this nameless girl. The next day or two was spent in a melancholy state as I mourned her loss.>> I get those on occasion, though I've never fallen in love during one... It always bugs the heck out of me whenever I wake up and have to let it all go...

Gside/Mp3s - Thanks! I just5 looked through the list, and aside from "particle man" (already got it on CD), I liked all of it... It'd probably be too much of a hassle to repost everything between "fiddler's green" (where I stepped out) and "twilight", so just post anything you can... Of course, if you don't mind reposting it all...:)

Rodlox><<both sides in a war have equal technology, and equal numbers...wouldn't 1 thousand years be long enough for a war? ....is there any way that it could be dragged on for _ten_thousand_ years? {that's the Azgard reason for not stopping Ra's people}.>> It'd depend on how long the participents live naturally, how hard they are to kill, and how intensive the warfare is... If we're talking low-intensity, galaxy-wide guerrillia warfare with few real stand-up fights, 10,000 years doesn't sound all that improbable... Look at the Hundred Years War between France and England.
Of course, keep in mind that I've got no idea about the specifics of the races involved other than the example of Ra from the original movie, so I could be talking out myy butt here...

Anyways, that's all I've got time for tonight... See ya's later.

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:07:51 AM
IP: spider-wj062.proxy.aol.com

Lexy> I am not sure whether you understood me or not. I was saying that I was happy that you expressed the belief that the majority of double-X's are attracted to height. I personally am ~6'2", >200#, and I rather like Randy Newman's Short People. Of course, as I am an uber-nerd, that goes against the perception of nerds as small, scrawny, and sickly; although I am uncoordinated, unathletic, and rather pale due to a lack of exposure to UV radiation.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Saturday, March 11, 2000 11:48:56 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Mecord- *smiles* I guess you are right *wipes a tear* I LOVE YOU GUYS!!

Gside- YAYAYAYAYA ya..thats da dudes name thanks!:D So..Am I to assume..you are short then..*grins* how short? 0_o >:)
*joking!!* *shrugs* I dunno..that is just TOO attractive to me *shrugs* I myself am going on 5'8"

SEEYA
Lexy
Saturday, March 11, 2000 11:07:38 PM
IP: abd9e98c.ipt.aol.com

Hi every body, I'm Greg "xanatos" brother. As you all probably all know that I'm new here and maybe some of you met me at G99.I don't have much to say right but I'll be for now on.
Cyclonus
Saturday, March 11, 2000 09:35:55 PM
IP: dialin-699-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

::beam of pure white light strikes down on the floor, then expands instantaneously into a room-filling white glare, and fades away, leaving me now visible::

Mecord: yeah...another STARGATE_SG-1 fan!! happy to see you. canya guess what group uses the above method? {give you a hint: Puck, Oberon, and ODIN would _not_ like these guys!}.

to all: if both sides in a war have equal technology, and equal numbers...wouldn't 1 thousand years be long enough for a war? ....is there any way that it could be dragged on for _ten_thousand_ years? {that's the Azgard reason for not stopping Ra's people}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 09:06:38 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Long time no comment everybody. I was without home internet access for a while, but now I'm back and ready to re-check my sanity to the CR administrator

Doug> Happy belated birthday. I have to get caught up with your recent fics.

Cartoon Character Crushes> I've always liked Demona. And though she may not count, I always found Maeve very attractive. Fox and Elisa are pretty hot too. Perhaps I'd better not continue.

I have a lot to get caught up on, so I'll comment again later.

Oh, happy birthdays to anyone else who had a birthday.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 08:23:44 PM
IP: dialin-568-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Skippy > Gargoyles are effectively twice as long-lived as humans because the stone sleep puts them in a state of biological stasis for an average of half the time, whereas with humans the biological processes that result in aging still occur when they sleep.

If you think about it, though, technically, both species are still aging at the same rate... gargoyles just take twice as long to do the same amount of aging as a human does since half the time they are in stone sleep suspended animation. Which means if a gargoyle were to live his or her entire in the absence of the stimulus that triggers stone sleep (such as on a starship if the stimulus is the sight of the sun), he or she would have the same lifespan as a human.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, March 11, 2000 07:40:58 PM
IP: 98a99849.ipt.aol.com

Home again, home again, jiggity jog....
Well, I'm back on the coast (like it was a big trip), an I may be having some large file access problems, so bear with me.

Kitainia> Mission to Mars (no spoilers this bit)> Saw it too, but I saw the first three minutes three times, heard them twice, and saw and heard the second three minutes three times. As you can guess, there were some problems with the projector.

**SPOILER** Although what surprised me was that they killed off Woodrow so early, I mean he gott pretty high billing. **/SPOILER**

<<a big-breasted bimbo who shouldn't be able to do half the gymnastics she can>>: That's more like it

Cyborg> <<including Kento, feel better Gside
;> >>: Why, yes, I do. It's just that he probably fits my description the best.

Green Baron> <<neck tie or bowtie, depending on his mood>>: So, what kind of mood shift causes one to change from cravat to bow tie?

News here: just bought a new 13 Gig HD for my laptop. So, that means more MP3 space.

Wilek> Random question: Does the immortality come with eternal youth? But then, I wouldn't need to worry about that, council would root me out.

Bengali> <>: Haven't we already covered emulation? It eliminates the need for hardware.

Lexy> <<that one dude witht the silver hair.. [] 'Cow ru'>>: I think that's Kaoru Nagisa (also Kaworu). (Note: I haven't seen anything with him yet, but http://evangelion.lfx.org/ is a pretty good resource)
<>: I am happy right now.

Gunjack> Missing mp3s: I'm sure there are those that will say you didn't miss anything good (a have a rather clear view on my music tastes), but I just put up a playlist for your requests for me to repost briefly.
The Band> I'm fairly positive you could find something by them in any semi-good music store. They have backed for Dylan and played the original Woodstock (scheduled on day 3). The most famous member is Robbie Robertson, and som of their most famous pieces are "Up On Cripple Creek," "Stage Fright," and "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," though I personally have a thing for "W. S. Walcott Medicine Show," and "Life is a Carnival."
Nice C&H quote

Fire Storm> Linux: Linux goes on anything! Linus (Torvalds) rocks my world.
<<even if you can't even prononce Linux!>>: Leenooks.

Warpmind> <<As well as a wish for more Lex & Tina stories.>>: Amen, brother. I say, Amen.

Mecord> move: That would be Stargate.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Saturday, March 11, 2000 07:23:30 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

SHADOWRIDER - Greg Weisman's mentioned a little about Gargoyle religion at "Ask Greg". It's somewhere between monotheism and pantheism. They have a single god who is - of course - nameless, and undefined. A major part of their religion is the concept that "all things are part of the whole". They have no priests or priestesses, either; gargoyles with an interest in spiritual matters simply have an interest in them, without letting this interest define them. (Greg's own feeling is that the only gargoyle in the cast of the television series with such an interest is Desdemona/Coldfire).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, March 11, 2000 07:04:11 PM
IP: 216.87.46.68.dialup-stl.primary.net

**A hole irises open in the ceiling. Seven thick rings about four feet in diameter drop through and stack on top of each other. From inside the rings a blue-white light illuminates the CR. The rings then lift one by one back into the ceiling, revealing Mecord standing in the center; the hole irises closed.**

Anyone guess what movie I just watched? :)
Hi everybody. Life has been moving rather slow this week. As spring break is now here, I feel lethargy setting in and my mind is in standby mode.
I think I missed something about the character description bit. Just in case, Mecord is a 5’2”, black hair, pointy eared Elf. Usually wears green, gray or black. If the question was related to Shadowrider's poll, I think I mentioned it last week? Not sure when, but I did.

Gunjack>> Tolkien’s elves are always good, I also like the Dragonlance version. my favorite part as well. “The game is done, I’ve won, I’ve won!” <Queen Frag> Ah, a Calvin and Hobbs fan. :)

Gathering 2001> I’m for LA if I get desperate I can at least drive there. If Colorado becomes an official bid, I would rather go there. Denver is fairly central U.S. which would make travel easier for those living on the N. American continent. I have no objection to a Canadian gathering though, or even a European one. I just can’t afford long distance travel in the near future.

Lexy>> You always have us males in the CR. As far as groups of males go, you could do a lot worse. :)

Aaron>> Dreams are the source of much inspiration for me. There is a lot of conversation about crushes in here lately. In the past year I had a dream with a girl I have never met nor dreamed of before. If I remember right the “plot” of the dream was that a few survivors were looking for shelter from some sort of invasion. During the course of this dream I came to realize that I truly loved this nameless girl. The next day or two was spent in a melancholy state as I mourned her loss. This dream has been the source of many story ideas involving the troubles and losses that true love sometimes brings.

Congrats to Stephen Jenna and the others for doing so well in the Fanfic contests.

Wilek>> Couldn’t seem to link to the project site. Oh well, there are those who watch and those who do. I think it’s just as much fun to watch as do at times. I’ll just wait in suspense as your plan unfolds. :)

**** RP ****
Mecord walks the hallways of the Thieves Guild on his home planet, Magia. One hallway looks to be a dead end, but Mecord is not fooled. He walks right through the illusion and enters the Office of the Mastermind, the leader of the Guild. The Mastermind sat in her floating chair. Her long hair glowed white and flowed about her as if caught in some underwater current. Both her hands gripped an orb of magical power that rested on a pedestal in front of her chair.
-You failed your mission,- the words that entered directly into Mecord's mind were not questioning. Mastermind was reviewing his memories of his mission.
“I failed, but I found information that could prove vital to the success of our Earth project.”
-Yes I see. If Hell is making such a powerful movement against Earth, the Illuminati may well agree to an alliance between our worlds.-
“If we can find the Illuminati. They either hide better than we do or have been dealt a major blow to the forces struggling for control of the Earth.”
-We cannot discount the possibility that they are somehow behind the struggle as well. Take Senthet and a small team of thieves and return to Earth. Establish a base and find the Illuminati. Become involved in the power struggle to prove our intentions.-
“And if the Illuminati are behind the struggle?”
-Pick your sides carefully. I leave this mission under your supervision.-
“One more thing. The mastergem, we may need it to use as a catalyst for our magic.”
-Very well, you may take it.-
**** End RP ****

Mecord
Saturday, March 11, 2000 04:27:39 PM
IP: usr40.mtwest.net

Skippy the Klingon:> Well, as far as I remember, Goliath himself said in a TV series episode that Gargoyles grow and age at about half the rate of humans (so forty years for a gargoyle are about like twenty for a human). Lexington confirmed it in a TGS story ("...I'm 39-equivalent to about twenty for a human...), as well as other character. I hope I've been useful to you. May Klingon Empire last forever!

To everyone:> Question: Do gargoyles have a religion of any kind? Do they believe in any kind of God? I need it for a fanfic.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, March 11, 2000 02:30:37 PM
IP: h213-16-154.mi2.albacom.net

Bleh. I always get behind, and never seem to catch up. This has been the Psychotic Week from Hell at work. A microsfot press release is plugging one of our new software applications, and so we've all had to be at work at 8 am most of last week, waiting for the insanity to start. The numbskulls at micorsoft never told us *when* the release was going out, and last time they plugged us, we got so many hits, downloads, and e-mails they system crashed and they we thought we were being hacked. So we all came early...only to discover *Friday* it's not going out until next Tuesday. Karen, the VP, was runnign around yesterday pretending she was flying to Washington so she could go kill everyone at Microsfot, and bemonaing the fact she'd forgotten her dartboard (she'd planned on taping Bill Gates' face to it and throwing darts at it). Then, 2 hours before we close, it all goes insane...our only level 3 tech support guy (he also was a programmer and wrote bug fixes and was our sys admin) quit, his girlfriend who did installs quit, and the marketing woman got fired. So we're all all screwed come Tuesday, because we'll be short three people, two of which, we needed. And on a personal note, I'm kinda up a creek as well...I'm tech support, but also do some de facto marketing stuff, since I know Photoshop and Illustrator (I helped with the design and layout of our print ad, a postcard pushing a new product, and a brochure that just went to the printer). Things're gonna be *fun*... <g> time to earn that raise I just got...

Maingold: Dui, wo shou you yi.dianr zhong.wen. Took Chinese for a year, a quit because the characters were kicking my tail end...by prof actually tried to talk me out of it, since she said I was one of the few students who had a real ear for the language (but my grades stank because I could barely read or write it...) the grammer was a joyously thing, though...

GB: <g> The "S" stands for me being the Typo Queen....

Phantom of the Opera: Personally, I would *love* for Antonio to be the Phantom. He has a good enough voice for it, and even though he has to look hideous, he also has to have sex appeal--which Antonio proved in "Mask of Zorro" that he could do. And it will increase the shock value, to have the phantom oozing sexuality, and when you rip off the mask, he's hideous. As for Christine...my only request is please, *god*, no Sarah Brightman. Get a *real* opera singer.
jewel
Saturday, March 11, 2000 02:23:56 PM
IP: atlnb104-37.splitrock.net

Gargoyles question> I was wondering about the rate of aging for Gargoyles. I had a story idea revolving around a modern era Gargolye and since the character would be older than most of the typical Gargs (human equivalent of mid-fourties) I was wondering exactly how old chronologically that would be. I've always placed Hudson in his late fifties/early sixties but since gargs are longer lived than humans, it's kind of hard to place years. TGS has established as lower growth rate for Gargs (Grahame and Arianna being twenty years old and still in adolescence) Since this character will be living through the twentieth century, Iwas needing to establish an aproximate era of hatching...
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, March 11, 2000 02:19:05 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-12.ultravision.net

Madame Destine:> I've read your story...<grins lasciviously> intriguing, indeed. I found there some of my own most unconfessed fantasies (I'm a bit wicked, I know ;))AND some things I've never dared even to imagine...I already wondered about certain uses of a prehensile tail...but I never thinked about THAT application of the stone-sleep! Anyway, I liked the story very much, I rated it with five stars. Shame for the picture: for some reasons, download was wrong, so I could see just the upper part. Greetings.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:41:49 PM
IP: h255-22-73.mi2.albacom.net

The site is finally letting me see all the posts.

Welcome back Pistoff!

Welcome to all newcomers!

Abortion>Everything that can be said about this issue has already been said.

TGS favorites>I havnt read all the TGS eps yet but out of the ones I have read I'd say that Requiem is probably my favorite.

I found some more great stuff on ebay!, The first is a cell and sketch of Demona, its at 400 dollars {yikes!}, to find it got to ebay.com and look up "Disney Gargoyles cell and sketch". It has one day left.

The second item I found is just as neat and rare, and its only at $7.50!, its a part of a portfolio display used during one of Buena Vistas executive strategy meetings while promoting the idea for the show. On the front is a picture of Goliath and on the back is a description of the show, it talks about how Gargoyles "employs new animation technologys, surprising special effects and unsurpassed atristry". It talks about the characters from the time when Elisas name was still "Elisa Chavez" and not "Elisa Maza". To find it look up "Gargoyles rare strategy meeting concepts". It has 5 days left.

And the last item is another Writers Guide/Bible, to view it click on the link.

Timedancer>Cant wait till the next ep comes out, from the clip TGS gave us it looks pretty good. {also, the date that the next ep takes place is the same year that Shakespeare wrote the play "Macbeth"}.

Cartoon Crushes>Put me on the list that had crushes on the turtles, it was around the time that TMNT came out, I was little at the time and thought that the turtles were cute..., other than the turtles I dont think I've ever had any other crushes on cartoon characters.

Character discription>I already chose to be a mutate, my appearance however would not be that of the ones on the show, the type of mutate I would be would be a Gargoyle/eel combo, that way I would have the appearance and abilitys of a normal gargoyle but I wouldnt turn to stone and I would be able to shoot those bolts of electricity from my hands like the mutates on the show. My hair would be the same as it is now, brown, medium and wavy, pulled back in a ponytail. My size would be about the same as it is now exept with the addition of a tail, claws, wings and such, about the size of Angela. I wouldnt have a beak, horns, etc, etc, etc... My skin color would be a dark, dusky creamish color and my eyes would be the same as they are now, brown. My clothing would be a slightly altered pair of blue jeans, white t-shirt and black duster style coat.

My computers starting to lock up so I'll finish this in a few minutes or so.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:16:07 PM
IP: spider-ti051.proxy.aol.com

D'oh...**Decapitaties Tai Po**
I meant KITIANA

((Space send's her Xander-kun))
Spacebabie
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:13:41 PM
IP: user-37kapgi.dialup.mindspring.com

SPRINGBREAK!

sorry had to let it out :)

Gside>>> Cause Kento doesnt have Rowan's Blue hair,,,well Blue is my favorite color:)

Kitara>>>Another Nicholas Brendan fan?!, I think Nick is just sooo adorable, and he looks good in boxers, I love most of the guys on Buffy/Angel
BTVS>>>Xander(Nick)
Spike(James)
and I have to admit Giles(Anthony)for someone in their 40's
Angel>>>Angel(David)
Wesley(Alexis) The leather,The motorcycle,the way he shot that guy in the hand
Anyways you can borrow my Chibi Xander((He needs a break ChibiDeliah has the same crush on him that Hyena has on Xellos)
Springs away
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:07:08 PM
IP: user-37kapgi.dialup.mindspring.com

Warpmind:> I see. There's a lot of people who is not convinced about the EU. I think EU will take some disadvantages, but in the long period advantages will become more and more important, at least I hope so. :)
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, March 11, 2000 07:03:45 AM
IP: h255-20-153.mi2.albacom.net

<Shadowrider walks in from the door (you didn't expect it, admit it...)>

Hi to everyone! a lot of things to say, so let's start!

Poll:> Votes keep on coming, so the poll keeps on too!

14 Gargoyles
11 Battlesuits
7 Mutates
6 Cyborgs

Well, cyborgs and mutates are slowly recovering,so the battle restarts!

Kitainia:> Hi Kit! Good to see you around! About X-files censors...well, as the Nereus Project will succeed and I'll take control of Mediterranean Europe...I have some funny ideas about what to do with them...<grins>

Wilek:> I took a careful look to the Project. Good, now I have a better idea of how things are supposed to go...so I can begin to work on a proper strategy to play my part at the best. BTW, I want to warn you from another group of conspirators: they make themselves call "Power Around The World" and their strategy is unknown. They're not a treat by now, but they're expanding and could become a problem. I'm gonna try to infiltrate their organization to discover something. I'll keep you informed...if I don't come back, avenge me! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH ME! :D :D :D [laugs for a week or so...]

Niamhgold:> Don't worry about my character's name, it was not so easy...BTW, I'm working hard on my story (I also have ideas for a whole series), the problem is, the fact I'm working hard on it doesn't mean I can stop working hard on all the other things (university, my Taekwon-do students, and so on...) so I don't know when I'll finish it (by now, I 've written about a half of it and I've re-written the beginning about ten times...:( ).

GB:> You know, I really enjoy talking with you...you always submit me interesting topics. :) Well, "caustic agnostic" actually means that I have nothing against believers, but I can't help but teasing them about their religion (I know, I'm just envious...), BTW I have a Brooklyn-like sense of humor, so you can imagine what kind of jokes I do...
About Mussolini...why do you say he was an atheist? And that he was ostile to the Pope? As far as I know, Mussolini liked to show in public his unshakable faith (like many dictators, he liked to show that he was on the Lord's side). The first Pact between Italy and Vatican, giving the Vatican a lot of privileges, was signed by Mussolini with a lot of enphasis. Nazists and Fascists used to show great respect to the Vatican-and the Vatican returned it: there are proofs that Vatican was aware of the Holocaust since 1941, but they NEVER said a word about it (I rememer someone in the Bible doing so...Pilatus, maybe...). Immediately after the end of the war, a lot of high-ranked Nazists and Fascists escaped the Trial of Norimberga with the help of Vatican officers. So, I don't think Mussolini (cursed!) and Hitler were atheists (not in pulic), for sure they were not hostile to the Vatican - one of their most valuable allies. About Nietsche...I admit I don't remember much about him (I studied him a 4 years ago).
Julius Caesar: you're right-he was one of the best tactician s in history, a skilled politician and a courageous man; such persons are very rare.
Actually, yes, I'm required to spend some time in Italian Armed Force (one year for Army and Air Force, eighteen months for the Navy - in Italy military service is compulsory, but this is going to change in a short time), but to become fighter pilot (to become officer anyway) you're required to sign in the Armed Forces for at least ten years (If I was not myopic, I was going to do this). During your compulsory service, you can become sergeant at best.
The Pope: curious... I actually agree with the Pope about Capital punishment, and I think Capitalism is not a good thing by itself, as well as Communism in not a bad thing by itself. Oh, well...about Mary, you could consider a journey to Italy...here Mary's devotion is very popular, especially in southern Italy (in Sicily or Campania you could find the most intense devotion to the Holy Mother - as well as visiting some of the most beautiful countrysides in the world. :)
Ave atque Vale: yor're right, it means about: "Goodbye, and may the Gods protect you".

Gunjack Valentine:> "Shadowrunner" ? Hmm...I've already heard this word...I can't place...
Thank you for voting the Poll. About your choice...whoa! For sure, once you choose a way, you go all the way with it! :)
Well, your cyborg seems very powerful and potentially unstoppable (although my Shadowrider battlesuit could give you a very bad time...<grin>)...about disadvantages...you're right, it's a small price...I choosed battlesuits instead of others because I don't care their disadvantages, I love them too much! (Did you read Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" ?).

Fire Storm:> You're not totally wrong...you almost (ALMOST) convinced me to pick up a cyborg instead of a battlesuit. BTW, why would you need to pass a metal detector? once you have a jet pack and a microfusion reactor to feed it, you can simply fly where you want to go (right, cross an ocean by yourself may be a little boring, but...) ;)

Ciao a tutti!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, March 11, 2000 06:59:14 AM
IP: h213-20-87.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, cheerfully, followed by equally cheerful chibis.*
Whee! I've finished and uploaded a new ep in my fanfic saga! Go ahead and read it; don't be shy! ;) Seriously, though, I'm back on track. Although I'm not writing my fanfics at the notorious speed Christine's known to have, I still write. On to replies...

Aaron: I've seen that picture of that Poison Elves elf... I can see your point. I still have a thing (I know what you sick, twisted guys interpret *that* as) for the Elfquest chicks, though. :)

Jeremy: You're reading all the TGS eps from the beginning, too? I did it in a month, up to the season finales. (Not including the latest Dark Ages season.) Let's see if you beat that record. ;)

Fire Storm: Oh, you were joking... Still, I wonder what she *really* thinks about gargoyles, being so publically against them, and all. ;) And as for that election business... she might even get a few of the female votes, as well. ;)

Jaden/Aaron: Unfortunate class situations: Cripes! If I didn't recognize the situation, I'd be on the floor, laughing various body parts off right now... I've been in the same situation. And, to top it off, the teacher in question... happens to be my aunt. (Mother's sister.) Needless to say, I mostly kept my mouth ready for every wise-ass remark I could think of. ;) Sure, it usually got me kicked out of the classroom within five minutes, but that was my intent. ;)

Wilek: Good to see the battle plan online. Yet, it is vaguely concerning... after all, what if our foes get wind of this? Which reminds me... I detected a potential annoyance. A possible rival for the power struggle claims to have about 8,000,000 troopers hidden away on Mars and Lunar bases. Could you please have these possible bases looked into?

Shadowrider: Actually, when I said I'm not pro-EU, I didn't say I was entirely against it, either. I see both benefits and drawbacks where a possible membership is concerned. One of my biggest concerns is the issue of independence, particularly agricultural. I cannot make myself vote for EU, but I won't vote against it, either. After all, a EU membership is likely to cut costs of alcohol, tobacco and gasoline by about 50%, if not more (currently, we're up to more than 5$ per gallon of fuel, over 50$ per quart of booze, and tobacco actually outcosts silver), plus a far more lenient customs system. Now, although I don't have a car, I figure two out of three directly visible benefits for me does speak in advantage of the Union. Thus, having weighed all the pros and cons, I plant my feet solidly in the "neutral" category.

Coyote: "Don't judge us all for the worst of our species" t-shirts... You know, I ought to get myself one of those... It'd sure raise a lot *more* questions about *which* species, in my case. ;)

Spike: By the way, magnificent pic. Thumbs up. (As well as a wish for more Lex & Tina stories.) :)

Gunjack Valentine: The RPG system I'm working on is basically a conglomerate of AD&D (the dice), Call of Cthulhu and GURPS, plus some of my original ideas. (Hey! I'm doing this within the period of a month, I can't think up everything myself, can I? Besides, many of the best ideas are already taken!) Briefly speaking, it is set in a world about as technologically advanced as ours. With one minor difference: there are two kinds of people: the Technologists, who can comprehend and use technological devices more advanced than, well, basic devices such as a doorknob, hinges and pulleys (as in doors and similar items), and the magi, who can use magic, but lack any capable comprehension for technology (beyond the basics as mentioned above). Thus a mage cannot use a coffe maker, for instance, he just casts the spell Summon Coffee instead. ;) And where computers are concerned... the import tax is directly caused by a new electronics sales tax: I think it's a 10% environment tax increase, which means the stores will take back your old computer when you are done with it, and dispose of it properly. And what they were sniffing when they signed that law, I don't know. Needless to say, when the Nereus Project has reached Scandinavian rule, I will personally tear up that law and eat it. In front of the schmucks who signed it.

Well, that's about it for replies right now. I'll check back later, then.
*Saunters out to do some RPG work, closely followed by the chibi family, who all carry small notepads with ideas.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, March 11, 2000 06:34:25 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Gside: <But what is the capacity for straight video?>
I estimate that a DVD can hold 3 hours, so with the 22 minute episodes of Gargoyles, I would say that a DVD could hold 8 episodes.
If I could find the DVD Video white page, I could be more sure.

Wilek: <And...I don't remember a Phoebe being in The Little Mermaid...>
From the show Friends.
Oh, and I read the Nereus Project, and I gotta say one thing: Give me the rights (Shipping, colonization, mining) to local space (Solar System inside the astroid belt but except Earth) for a period of 100 years (with the option to extend that), and I wll give you what you want (plus a percentage of the profits or the raw materials).
Weapons, Armor, Hardware... you name it. (And besides... I doubt you would allow me to rule my home area of Metro Detoit, Mi)
If you make all CR dwellers immortal, do they have a way to end their lives if they so wish to?
Matrix Ideas: Couldn't the Matrix dwellers have access to television and cameras from inside the Matrix?
<Oh no, not yours too!>
Yeah. I am afraid so. :( But she seems to be better now. I can just hope for the best.
<Gargoyle's Quest game I was unaware of...?>
Yeah. A kinda lame series that I though was for the Nintendo game systems only.

Shadowrider: <As far as I know, the only operating system currently available for cyborgs is a version of Win '98...;D.>
Na... Linux!
<Anyway, your cyborg actually HAS some disadvantages...for example, it can't fly.>
Portable hang gliders, jet packs for that. Not as much of a disadvantage as one may think.

Description of Alternate self: Body 002 <Human//cyborg>, (Based on original body)
5'8", 170lbs (appearance of, not actual weight), moderately muscular ("Fit")
Blue eyes (with a bit of grey in them), short light brown hair, oval face.
Clothes: Standard street clothes for most occasions

"Special" occasion clothes for Body 002: Knee high leather boots with metal buckles, black pants, gray tee-shirt, ankle length leather jacket, black sunglasses, weaponry as required

Advantages:
Titanium endoskeleton with retractable arm claws
Enhanced biological recycling capabilities
Sperate recycling systems for the brain (until the brain can be replaced)
Ability to change bodies for "special" needs
Cybernetically enhanced muscle system
Direct computer/weapon/cybersuit interface
Enhanced eyes, ears
Microfusion reactor for power
Being immortal or near immortal
BONUS: Rentention of outside physical apperance
Disadvantages:
Inability to fly without add-ons
Inability to walk through a metal detector without a few problems :)
Computer Glitches
Mechanical glitches
Being immortal or near immortal

<so I think your choice is both for a mutate and for a battlesuit.>
Oh sure. Give him both! :)

Mandolin: <Captain N (anyone remember that cartoon?)>
Oh yeah. Nice show. Mother Brain was wierd though. The show needed Samus to show up!

Green Baron: <king cakes>
King cakes? Hmm... not familar with those. What are they?

As do I... ah, DC... I miss (reliable) mass transit.
<How bad are sales taxes?>
Does it matter? Even if it were 25% you would STILL make a killing there with the american dollar.

Aaron: <Still, it's an interesting idea.>
I'll say! I like it! You gonna write it?

Coyote: <Only blasted state in the Union that can be at 80 degrees one day and 20 the next!!!>
Michigan state motto: If you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes
I left the house at 1pm the temperature was 70 degrees
When I got home at 2:30, it was 60
4:30, it was 49
Don't you wish Michigan would make up it's mind?
<I'm curious, why did my crush on Kira surprise you?>
I am not quite sure. I mean, I know she is attrative, but... hmm... I am not so sure.
I guess it makes sense.
<(y'know, I oughtta make t-shirts with that on 'em, I'd make a fortune!!)>
Hmm... start off at Gibralter and the state fair... sell them on-line...
<As for the car wreck, it gets better>
I am afraid to take my car to the shop. I think the middle of the car between the front seats is 2-3 inches lower than it should be and I am pretty sure my front end is twisted 10 degrees upward (Passanger side), not to mention tune up, cruise control, horn, air AND 75% of my speakers not working.
I just wanna say "give it a tune up, check the breaks, forget the rest"

Matthew: <Frank wasn't IN the reactor, I think he was maybe above it, pushing the control rods down into it.>
Well, maybe not IN, but the radiation still would have been enough to kill him within minutes.
<Frank would have joined the dearly departed.>
True. I kinda though that the one alien would have a change of heart and heal him. Oh well.
I STILL say that we are gonna see those aliens again, no matter what they said.

Gunjack: Yeow! Nice suit!

Click my link and sign the petition even if you can't even prononce Linux!
WE NEED SIGNATURES! This is to get better hardware drivers for Linux.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 04:43:47 AM
IP: t3-73.visitus.net

Wilek> I would be willing to aid in your takeover of British Columbia, as I have access to members of the government. Though I'll skip on the immortality.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:22:40 AM
IP: dial-225.ocis.net

*A gurney carrying an extremely fried Valentine is wheeled into the CR by a pair of Medtechs, who proceed to shift him into his Comfy Chair (TM) and start multiple IV drips*

If any of you heard a loud whistling sound last night, it was my health crashing like a 747 powered by sick monkieys...:P I spent most of the morning horizontal while I tryed to build up enough nerve to find out whether my stomach would actually keep anything down, and thye thought of food still makes me sick.

In other words, I'm doin' pretty darn good, considering...:) By the way, big-time thanks to Infinity... I freakin' LOVE this song! Wilek was right; it makes me want to go out and "liberate" a small country...;)

Warpmind><<Oh, by the way... when the RPG system I'm developing is done (the beta), care to give it a look, maybe point out any flaws you see? (Playtesting would also be appreciated.)>> I'd love to! Gimme all you got! :D
By the way, can you give me any details? <<As for this computer stuff; well, unfortunately, I don't have the money to buy it (I live on what is near a starvation budget, only I do get to eat occasionally), and import wouldn't help cutting the price, as there's a hefty import tax on electronics.>> What the HECK??! And exactly what portion of the National Crack Supply were they sniffing when they signed *THAT* insanity into law? <<As for jamming their computers so they can't find you... the deforestation scene from Predator 1 comes to mind...>> How true...:) Miniguns Forever!

Mecord><<Well, have to go read "The Rime of the Ancient
Mariner" for class tomorrow. Exellent poem by the way, I
highly recomend it.>> Ooo, that's a fun one, and one of the
few poems I've read that actually seemed to flow... *steels
himself for the hordes of rabid responces to -that-
line...* I especially liked the "Death/Life in Death" part...

Shadowrider - Ya know, every time I see that name, I keep thinking "shadowrunner"...

Anyways, on to the poll.Put me down for cyborg.
Battlesuits, much as I love ‘em, are too easy to shuck the wearer out of (I'd like to see Dingo cope with a couple of
LAW rounds), gargoyles have that nasty no-daylight problem,
and I never really went in for mutation...
I'd take the usual cyber-toughness mods (redundent armored
organs, reinforced skeleton, muscle augmentation, ect.), and then take a modular bodyshell. Basicly, a M-B shell allows you to change your arms, legs, and skin; with the right modules, you could go from a fairly normal-looking human to an armored hulk the size of Goliath in about three minutes. I'd need a few "softy" shells to look like a normal human (I'd also have interchangable faces; how's that for fast disguises?), probably a stealth shell (radar and IR shielding, probably active camoflague), and a Tank shell (800+ lbs composite armor, 20mm rotary cannon, 40mm quad rocket launcher, a built-in targeting/pilot computer, and an extra pair of arms).
As for non-modular gear, gimme an implanted .50 pistol in my arm, some retractable fangs, a Drone Hive, and maybe a Puppeteer spike, and I'd be all set.

As for disadds, well, for one, all that gear means that if
I fell into a good-sized lake, I'd sink straight to the
bottom and drown unless I was close enough to the shore to walk out along the bottom. Also, the brain mods for controlling all that gear would be kinda dicey, meaning I'd
have to worry about brain shorts and possibly mental instability... But hey, small price to pay, right?

Wisdom Teeth - Aargh! I hate reading all these posts about wisdom teeth! ;( I've got several that have to go in the near future, and the last thing I need is to know exactly what to expect...:P And whenever I point this out to my friends, they immediatly see it as a glorious opportunity to watch me squirm...

Still, I suppose it's not all that bad... One of my friends is trying to convince me that it's more fun to stay awake, since you get to enjoy the drug trip from all the anihstetics... :P

Zath><<You mean like getting so angry you fry some chips and end up spending the rest of the day with both hands and the toes of one foot frozen in obcene gestures? : )> ROFL :) For some wierd reason, this reminds me of Docter Strangelove...

Gside><<Aha, someone else who downloads my mp3s.>> Unfortunately, I've been missing them for the last few weeks... yet another evil repercussion of losing the net... *blasts DC with a Gauss Ripper* <> Who are they? And more importantly, where can I find more of their music?

Tim P.><<Wrong. The IR detector, GPS system, and other features are electronic, but the new rifle itself is pneumaticly powered. Older services rifles like the M-16 will still be used by the military for years to come.>> If you're talking about the OICW (Objective Infantry Combat Weapon to the non-munchkins among us), then the 20mm HE launcher needs the computer to feed fusing information to the grenades... Also, what's this about it being "pneumaticly powered"? <<Older services rifles like the M-16 will still be used by the military for years to come.>> Probably because they cost about 1/20th as much as an OICW, and do most of the same things... Personally, I think the Army would be better served by a Bullpup version of the M16 with the OICW's 20mm as an underbarrel... It'd probably be a heack of a lot cheaper.

Aaron><<I'm not really all that familiar with ElfQuest per se, but all the elves in it look kinda like short Vulcans to me. Click my name to see a pic of Cleah from Poison Elves. What can I say, I have a thing for tall, well-armed women.>> Well, she's certianly got a big pair of...ears... ;) (Sorry, couldn't help it..:P)

Personally, I always went in for the Tolkien version of elves...

Well, not enough time to finish cathing up, and it's a touch past beddy-by time... Anyway, I'll cath ya'll later...

"I pledge alliegence to Queen Fragg,
And her Mighty State of Hysteria..."
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Dallas
Saturday, March 11, 2000 01:12:21 AM
IP: spider-wl032.proxy.aol.com

Mara> RE: Gundam...click below. That's the offical site for the Gundam models. It does a lot of explaning about the different Gundams and their pilots. Would you believe that you can actually get models at toys R Us of all places? No kidding. We got 5 of them there for X-mas. I haven't seen the show yet, as I cancelled my cable service. I'm hardly home enough to even enjoy the basic service. Enjoy! =]

Character Description> Is everyone planning to do a character description or is this for anyone in particular for a specific reason? If there are going to be a few people posting descriptions, I might try posting Katara's after the room wipes this weekend. *shrug* Otherwise, I'll just have to dust off the link to my only fic so far. (_still_ stuck on the ending for the 2nd one)

Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:56:25 AM
IP: 98ada8bb.ipt.aol.com

Congrats to all the winners.

Cartoon crushes> Oddly enough I know my brothers before I know mine. My youngest brother had a crush on Jessica Rabbit. My other brother had a crush on Mimmei and Rook from Robotech Gen 1 and 3. Me, I'm not so sure. There was Jenna of the Jungle. White haired jungle babe who had a pet lemur. (Believe me, there are few alive who know more American cartoons than me.)

Yes, I remember Captain N, but I liked Zelda. She definately had the thigh high boots working for her.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:14:50 AM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

Reunion fanfic contest > congrats, all! Good show!

Kitainia > wow, another Alphonse fan? I've mentioned to the guy who originally created and played the character that several ladies had taken fondly to the big lug. Well, you'll be pleased to know that he has some terrific moments in the next two books! ; )

G2001 > to clear things up, everybody who is just now chiming in with their suggestions of where (and their hometowns, usually the same thing <g>) -- it's way too late for that for this year! The current choice facing the G2K team is Maine or L.A.; if you would like to see a future Gathering near you, guess who's in charge of putting together a bid? Yep ... _you_ are! ; )

Me, I'll go just about anyplace for a Gathering!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:11:13 AM
IP: 04-170.009.popsite.net

One more thing...

Congratulations to the winners of the reunions fanfic contest!
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 10, 2000 11:00:27 PM
IP: spider-ti074.proxy.aol.com

Sorry for double-posting;

Stephen: Congrats on 1st place for the fanfic Reunion award! You're the only person I voted for that actually won! Makes me feel better :)
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:57:33 PM
IP: ncia119n.ncia.net

** Cue Munchkins humming--**

"Oh, I'm off to read the fanfic, the wonderful fanfic of gargs, the fic, the fic, the fic, the fic, the wonderful fic of gargs..."

It's been a long while since I've gotten a chance to read some fanfic in the ol' archive. A few look interesting at first glance; one by K@tt, one by Nokkar, and a couple others. Oh, and Madame Destine, of course! That one sounds interesting...:) AFter all this, it's back to writing my _own_ fanfic. Aghh!

G2001: Oh, Portland, Portland, Portland, PLEASE be Portland!!!!

Tonsilitus: I apologize that this has turned into a medical topic. Personally, though, I've decided to tell the good doctor that I won't have them out until they cause me some _serious_ trouble. In the meanwhile, there's no way to avoid my wisdom teeth, the impacted little suckers!

My friend's friends really liked the picture I did of Quistis from FF8, and now they all want something! Neat, but, at the same time, stressing! Hope they don't want them too soon! ;)

Anyone who reads my fic (like cherry :). I'm working on it, currently on the ending. Should be out there soon!

Speaking of which, I gotta go! Bye!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:54:35 PM
IP: ncia119n.ncia.net

Greetings a11...

SPIKE - Dadburn! I can't believe I won the "Reunion" portion of the Gargoyles Online Reunion... To all those that voted, thank you very much! It isn't often when someone wins something like this. :)

JENNA - Good work on your story too! :)

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:44:43 PM
IP: m24.ieway.com

Cartoon Crushes- ..There are other kinds?? *shrugs*

Lets seee... here they are in no perticular order;)

1) LEXINGTON!!!!!! *sighs blissfully*
2) Brooklyn
3) Keiichi
4) Trunks
5) Dang it..can't..spell his name..ALL YOU Neon Genisis Fans out there though..that one dude witht the silver hair.. lets try this phonetically (sp) forgive me if I get his name confused 'Cow ru'??

6) Krillen! *g*
7) I always loved watching Doug..I dont know if I had a crush per say..its more like..I really identify with him. All his goofy day dreams make sense to me. I'm like that..I just dream away whenever I please..and I love to sketch.
8) Ryoga
9) I thought Tod from fox and the hound was a cutie;)
10) I dont really have a crush..but Tarzan has a nice bod anyhow!;0
11) Raphel (sp) from TMNT's..he was always and still is my fave turtal

Ok thats all I can _think_ of for now. I have always prized animated characters over real males. Please do not get me wrong, I hope I do not insult anyone. I mean this sincearly. (sp) My family is just made up of the worst group of males. They are just crule. And to top it off I never really had any male friends or males that I could talk to for that matter. The only time males talked to me was to tell me how stupid, ugly, or fat I was. Add in a little abuse and walla. Its not all men's fault. I just will never identify with them like I should. *looks at Kaioto* now..you know the story do NOT get upset about this!! *kisses you* you know you are differnt my love.

Anyway, animated men are GREAT. Infact animated characters in general are great;) they just have so meny pluses if you are willing to be completely out of touch with reality like me:)

***TOP 10 REASON WHY ANIMATED CHARACTERS ARE BETTER IMO*****
(in no order..to tired for that;P)

1) They have NO body odor..unless we invent smellovision

2) Their hair can DEFY (sp) Gravity!! MAN what CAN'T you do with their hair??

3) They never talk back

4) If you love them..then they HAVE to love you. Hey..its _your_ idea right?

5) They always know how to be charming..and if they dont..they always make up for it in some other way.

6) They look good when they wake, they look good when they sleep, they look good running, they look good standing..they look good ALL the time..even when they are mad, sad, or ravenged with some other emotion

7) The _eyes_ DEFINATLY the eyes

8) You almost always know what their about. No surprises..

9) They can eat whatever and HOWever they feel like eating..and you know what? They _still_ look good. *shakes head*

10) perhaps this goes along with number 1..but NO bodily (sp) functions WHAT so ever aside from the very rare pregnacy or..in some shows potty humor;) (for all the dragon ball fans out there!)
*******************************************************

Another thing for me..If you hadnt noticed from my line up
Ie: Lex, Doug, Ryoga, 'cow ru':P (I dishonor him) Raf, Tod, Krillen, Keiichi.. I LOVE short guys!! I guess..not a lot of women go for that trait *shrugs* that is the FIRST thing I notice on a guy..I don't know why. I just think its very attracitive. Second..the hair..Love bangs..LOVE bangs. *looks over at kai again* Please..if you cant read this then DONT read this. You know I love you best of all my lil honey usagi-chan *kissles* ;) So hey, my fave cartoon dudes seem to always be short too..but oddly enough..in the animated world I seem to favor the bald *snickers* ahh well...Its late and its not like anyone is reading my posts anyway *LOL* Ill see you all later *glides out*

Lexy
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:42:19 PM
IP: abd32c5a.ipt.aol.com

Yo just stopped in for a quick post first i just finished the out of joint stories and hammer and the sheild.Must say that is some damn good writing.Also i see alot of posts about FANFIC and the GATHERING.FANFIC<<:I would like to read some of your work....how?Also i have some story's i have written only i do not have a web page.Do any of you know if there is a way to get mine on the web without a web page?If not how do i get a web page?I think i am pretty damn good at it and think y'all would get a kick out of it.GATHERING<<:I don't know much about it but from what i can peice togeather it sounds like a convention.Well i would love to go but have no clue where or when it is going to be held.If you could let me know that would be phat all right i gotta bounce...........peace out!
Jeremy - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:33:07 PM
IP: nas-2-6.boston.navinet.net

Wilek>Gargoyles Quest is not about the same thing as our beloved show, its an RPG about a Gargoyle called Firebrand, I havnt played it yet though because I dont have a Game boy. As for Funcoland, I shop there often, they have some of the best prices for older games, they have Mario Paint for the SNES for 0.09 cents and such. As for the Genesis game, thats the one that is about our show, its not related in any way to Gargoyles Quest, it doesnt follow the story of the show whatsoever, but even so its an okay game.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:19:58 PM
IP: spider-ti074.proxy.aol.com

Hello everyone. I haven't had the chance to stop in here for a while... I've been busy on my latest fic, and I _finally_ managed to get some decent 'net access. I'd hoped to have my fic done before the online reunion, but it took a little longer to add the finishing touches. Many thanks, though, to everyone who encouraged me by writing to ask if I was going to write more stories. :)

I was following Dark Ages... I can't wait for Timedancer to begin. But I'm most anxious to see what the next season of the main series has in store... since seasons one and two were the main inspiration for my fics. And on that note...
:: grins ::

:: begin shameless fic plug ::

Angela, Fox, and Elisa never dreamed that a mixing a little magic and a few wild fantasies could lead to such a nightmare...

Presenting "Mistress of Dreams," the latest TGS-inspired erotic thriller from Madame Destine, online now in the adult fic archive (click my name). Including a special bonus - an illustration by Alison Wilgus.

Enjoy!

PS - You'll understand why I used this pic if you read the story. :)
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:00:26 PM
IP: 98acbb51.ipt.aol.com

Wilek-- I got my gargoyle game from funco land - if it's the sega genesis game- that the one with ol goliath!!! ^_^

jenna
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:57:10 PM
IP: 2cust3.tnt4.hou3.da.uu.net

Does anyone do much shopping at www.funcoland.com? I encountered a Genesis Gargoyles game there, but the description they gave was what appeared to be an entry in the Gargoyle's Quest series. Was their description inaccurate, or is there a Gargoyle's Quest game I was unaware of...?

Kitiania> <<if you're going to make all CR dwellers immortal, does that include people in absentia?>> Not unless they want to; forcing them or doing it without their knowledge would be basically equivalent to the draft, which IMHO is among the most evil concepts ever devised. <<And what if some of those people aren't the sort we'd want running the world? (I don't know about you, but I'm not sure I'd want to share power with the links of Paul Allen Nathans, Rene & Satan, or Traveler, though maybe we could let Traveler have Canada and France. :)>> There are screening processes for that, and members can be voted out of the council by...I forget the exact majority necessary, but I think it's somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4. (I let my advisors work out the various little details of this; I'm more of a big-picture kinda guy.) <<Also, what if someone decides to use their immortality to take over the world in their own name? Yeah, I know it's hard to believe, but power corrupts.>> There are...ways...around that. >;) <<Doug and I will probably be ruling Central Texas in absentia if it does, since we'd be spending lots of time on the Matrix. :)>> Oh, it's not completely isolated from the real world; it's also useful for group communication (take 'chat room' to its most literal conclusion and you'll have the idea). ;) <<I just know I want to read what happens next in those stories, and the suspense of waiting this long is driving me banannas. Come on, people, don't you care about your characters' fans? Don't you want to read these stories too?>> <L> Oh, I'm intrigued, all right, but if there's one thing that my life has gone *well* out of its way to teach me, it's that everything, including and especially patience, comes to those who wait. ;)

Cyborg> <<I saw Kit parceling out Canada to Traveler and I just wondered, well, Canada is a big place, he can have most of it, but can I have Quebec and the Maritimes? I have some big ideas on what to do with this language racist regime. *evil grin*>> Sounds good to me; I've heard dark mutterings about 'language police' and the like...

Tonsilitis and equally cheery subjects> I don't think I've ever had an operation of any kind, not to my knowledge (remind: enquire with the Reticulan Embassy)...

Green Baron> <<Should I have a party or such? I haven't had one since I turned ten, since I felt too old for them, but this time it should be lots of fun and no family :) Who likes the idea?>> Yer never too old to have a good time, lad! :D

Aaron> Dreams> Wow...you're right, those are *great* fic ideas...
Wilek Nereus
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:49:43 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Catch-Up Post.

Been extremely busy lately and my computers been having problems so I havnt had a chance to post. Also, for some reson the site wont let me see most of this weeks and all of last weeks posts so if anyone had a response to my last post please repost it.

Cartoon Network Campaigm 2000>I didnt get a chance to vote, the polls over now but if it wasnt over I probably would have voted for Bugs Bunny. {I certainly hope that none of the "Cartoon Cartoon" characters win}.

Organized Religion>Not gonna comment on this one.

Bye!
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:39:16 PM
IP: spider-ti074.proxy.aol.com

Spike -- thanks and *blush* thanks! ^_^
jenna
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:27:39 PM
IP: 2cust3.tnt4.hou3.da.uu.net

Jenna>> Here's the link to the Reunion site! Congrats on a great story!
Spike
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:15:28 PM
IP: pppt09-105.ght.iadfw.net

Firestorm: About your problem with 7 Days> Frank wasn't IN the reactor, I think he was maybe above it, pushing the control rods down into it. And don't forget he received a lethal dose of radiation regardless. If it hadn't been for the aliens sending Dr. Mentner the message about the healing device, Frank would have joined the dearly departed.
Matthew - [MattS1@aol.com]
New City, NY, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:56:24 PM
IP: 98a9d7e8.ipt.aol.com

Spike- that pic smolders!
jenna
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:47:35 PM
IP: 1cust73.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Aaron-- ooo*shudder* that was a freaky dream.

Coyote- <regarding men in women's issues class> hey I hear you guy- I have had the same thing happen to me, and I'm a girl :P

Spike- thanks for posting the results.

I don't know if I said it in here- but I'm working! Yea!!--

And also -- does anyone have the link to the reunion- the internet one- i lost it a while ago. if someone could post it- I'd appreciate it.
jenna
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:44:44 PM
IP: 1cust73.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

**enters shivering**

I HAAAATE MICHIGAN WEATHER!!! Only blasted state in the Union that can be at 80 degrees one day and 20 the next!!! **slaps shoulders, trying to warm up**

Jessie Feff, re: "Heavenly Creatures": Yep, I'd heard that. In fact, that was what attracted me to the movie in the first place, that and the surreal special effects in the movie (that dream sequence with the "gods" in claymation was suitably creepy). :)

Fire Storm: I'm curious, why did my crush on Kira surprise you?

Mara-ko, re: Xex: It'd be fairly expected ... y'know, those mystery guys in the masks usually have the whole "loner on a mission" think going which is just *so* attractive to the ladies (at least according to Waspinator). ;) **kiss kiss**

Men in women's issues classes: Criminy, I've said it before and I'll say it again ... ladies, before you turn toward the nearest member of the male persuasion and deliver a swift kick to the 'nads because of something you heard about a man doing to a woman ... *Don't Judge Us All By The Worst Of Our Species!* (y'know, I oughtta make t-shirts with that on 'em, I'd make a fortune!!)

Kitainia: Right now it's more than just not getting the descriptions ... I think I have enough of what I need. Right now the problem for me is finding the time to do it in (and working 11 hour days at the store to cover for one firing and one bereavement leave ain't helpin' *that* department any.). I'm still aiming for finishing it before WCC. I swear to God on a stack of Bibles I will.
As for the car wreck, it gets better. Now I have underbody problems with it as well ... the sway bar bushings are busted (not too expensive but I have to get a friggin' caliper to measure the diameter of the blasted bar) and the brake proportioning valve is shot (dealer item, $72). I got a world of fun ahead a' me. :P

Spike: Don't be embarrassed about using your fics, Lord knows enough folks use their own fics as the basis for their entries to the MGC every month.

Mandolin: Eep! Keep safe, friend.

Oh ... my tax return's in! Yippee!! Now I can hang on to my budget and buy my plane tickets! **skips happily out of the room, still shivering**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:32:26 PM
IP: zzz-209252248058.splitrock.net

Hello all...glad to see at least this room is active....was a bit concerned last pass through station 8......bye4now
Kevin C. - [brooklyn@empireone.net]
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:25:58 PM
IP: 109.m46.del.catskill.net

GB> Sure, we'll have a special birthday dinner for you at G2001. The bids I've seen so far are Portland, Maine, or LA. As for the guest speaker, check my last post for a description.

Had a really bizarre dream last night which I forgot to share. It was like two new gargs eps, complete with commercials for TGC of all weird things. The first one had Demona breaking into Castle Wyvern to perform some arcane ceremony, and the second, whoa...

Thailog has taken up serial murder as a hobby. Elisa and Goliath get brought into the police efforts to track him down, and all his victems look kind of like Elisa... And that's when I got woken up. Grrrrr. Still, it's an interesting idea. Makes me wish I could work it into my fic verse.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 05:55:13 PM
IP: ppp-188.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Sup room just woke up........it was a very..........very long night.I am a hurtin unit this morning......got in a fight last night wit a real big dude.I got stomped but i got a few good shot's in.He and his crew thought they would intimidate me cause they were rollin 5 deep.He was pretty damn stunned when i didn't back down...hell i was stunned when i didn't back down.This dude was like 6'7 300+pounds i know this because i am 6'1 200pounds and i had to look up at this guy.He kicked my ass but i put him on his ass with one of my punch's it was ill.I actualy picked this dude up and slammed his ass.My freind's were talkin about it all night and i got mad free beers so all in all it was worth it.I look pretty bad though....my ribs are killing me he kicked me when i was down i think that's illeagal but i won't press charges.Anyway i know his jaw must be killin him he was bleedin real bad.TONSILLS<<:I had mine out when i was seven it hurt like hell.My doc said they had to come out because they were as big as golfballs.....no lie.I had trouble breathing even eating i was startin to loose weight so they cut em out.It sucked every one was like "you get free ice cream and freeze pops".Yeah the only thing is my throut hurt so bad i didn't want them.For a seven year old kid not to want ice cream something must be wrong.It took me all day to finish half a dixie cup of juice.I didn't get my voice back for a week and even then it hurt to talk.Needless to say getting your tonsills out sucks.Well gotta go get some ice for my eye peace out!
Jeremy - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 05:07:42 PM
IP: nas-3-3.boston.navinet.net

RP WARNING!!!
Bob Jones University
The villains are ready to sacrifice Mayour Guiliani to teh Arch-demon Cromwell.
"By the power of the Orange fires of Hell, we send forth the papist sacrifice to appease ye, Lord Cromwell."
Ian Paisley takes forth his knif and removes Guiliani's heart. He then bites off a portion and shares it with Bob Jones, the Orange Duke, and Rev. Cheryl Cornish. Oliver Cromwell takes the corpse (which is just barely alive) and engulfs it in fire, causing the heart to burst into flames and scalding Rev. Paisley.

"Miss Cornish, you serve us well by offering this Catholic, who denies our righ to deface teh Virgin Mary with Modern Art."
"Thank you, my leige. Now, the WASP carpet-bagger can take control of New York, with the help of upChuck Schumer."
"Hillary??" Bob Jones scowls, "couldn't we put in Jesse Helms or bring back Geoge Wallace?"
"Enough!!" shouts the Orange Duke, "our common foe is the Green Baron, his five strumpets, and that damned cat. Besides, Cheryl, those whores of his jsut incinerated Hillary."
"Amen!" shouts Jones as Cornish stares at him.
Oliver Cromwell along with the Orange Duke and Ian Paisley look at the two bickering minsters showing the two extremes of Puritan offshoots and hold their heads, awaiting a major headache.**
PAUSE RP!!!!

Bad News in my life> Well, it's back again!! Over last summer, a number of urchins have taken to using my pool as their own swimming hole, so we had to get an alarm system in, and it didn't entirely stop them. The juvenille delinquents have taken to throwing rocks in teh pool along with anything they could find, such as bricks, charcoal, and garbage cans. It started up again just recently, with the good weather. Now, my motehr has decided to take some pre-cautionary measures, including sheetrock anils and barbedwire to top the fence where the kids are getting in, and she decided to get a dog. A dog!!! I am not a dog person. Big dogs make me nervous and small dogs are obnoxious and yippy, plus I fear the barking will keep me up all night, but the baking should keep the little paupers from trying to swim in our pool. Hopefully, rennovations will be done in the next few months and the house will be sold. Soon, I'll be graduating from College and I'll be joining the Air Force and I'll be in a new life, and I'm not looking back as I leave the old one, but I am afraid I'm going to be stuck with teh responsibilities of dealing with some animal that I want no part fo and think its a bad idea to get.

Good News> I checked a list of summer school courses. I can take classes during both sessions and have only twelve hours remaining to get my BBA in Economics/Finance with a nice Legal Studies Minor. The last day of teh second session fo summer school for my class will be August 3rd, so once I take the final, I can get to Greyhound and take a nice 13 hour ride to Orlando (round trip will hopefully be under 50, maybe even in the thrities :)) and spend a great 23rd birthday with my fellow CR dwellers. Note to my friends in here: Should I have a party or such? I haven't had one since I turned ten, since I felt too old for them, but this time it should be lots of fun and no family :) Who likes the idea?

Patrick Toman> I recall this idea has been in circulation for a while. I hope I'll have been in the Service long enough to get some days off. (I think Officers can get 30 days off paid vacation a year.) My sister will be going, and Jen should be looking forward to her help again :) I will actually ahve not seen her since January by then, so we might make the whole weekend without annoying each other too much, plus I won't need to be responsible for her :)
May the best city win in any case.

Niamhgold> It's better if tehy stay in, unless you had a really good HMO and there was no major cause in removing them for the Hell of it. I still have my appendix and my wisdom teeth are not a problem yet, and hopefully never. Too bad health plans won't cover Ben and Jerry's after you get 'em out :)

Gside> <<Too bad pretty much every Latin word I know is from Gargoyles>> Mine is pretty rusty, too, though I do have a copy of the rosary parayers in Latin, though the longer ones are harder to memorize. BTW, dating back to an earlier question, I have been to a Tridentine Massa nd I thought it was absolutely beautiful. It amkes me wish I knew Latin better, but just the flow of it was enough to awe me.

Todd> Does that mean you may be going to Gathering? Please say yes. We can have you head yoru own Arthurian founding and a session of Ask Todd relating to all things Pendragon :)

SOROW> Isn't your brother in San Antonio?

Pistoff> I remember an old saying, "a Conservative will sell you the shirt off his back for a profit; a Liberal will give you the shirt off someone else's back". I imagine Liddy is your kind of no-nonsense @$$-kicking Republican with a sense of humor. As for Nixon, he was mainly guilty of teh coverup and in a good economy like today's, Watergate would be seen as a witch hunt, like Iran-Contra and Whitewater. Besides, his SC Justices were good picks except for Harry Blackmun.

Don't forget about the original conservative badass in the Joyride, Attila the Hun :)

Gathering '01> What are the options so far?

Silverstar> I actually prefer women with darker hair and red heads to blondes. I've only dated one blond, and she was the one who dumped me because I'm Catholic. I also don't care for girls who are too skinny. I find it unhealthy. As for blue eyes, give me green or brown. I don't want some Aryan girl (no offense meant to any girls with those attruibutes).

Wilek> <<See GB's response>> As David Horowitz says, "Right on!!!" :)

Gunjack> Gside said that. Beisdes, I'm in purple (except on St. Patrick's Day) until Easter.

Jaden> Things take time. Romer v Evans was a breakthrough (and authored by Anthony Kennedy a Judge I seem to relate to), though a Liberatrian President will hopefully appoint SC judges that will be more pro-gay rights, and be fiscacally conservative: best of both worlds, but a pipe dream.

Warpmind> <<Do I detect a minor amount of ill will against Fidel Castro here? >>
Yes, and a lot has been reinforced to soem of my friends from Miami.
<<Castro isn't really a bad guy. >> Compared to Stalin maybe
<<None other than Tricky Dicky himself... kinda makes you wonder, eh?>> Nixon had a lot of bad points, but he knew his foreign policy and he was dead right about Alger Hiss. I figured Kennedy made that charge, and I would have voted for him over Nixon in 1960.

What do you dislike about the EU? I don't like the idea of a centrally planned European Economy one iota, but I think it will be great with currency and in expanding free trade, though I don't like how Ireland is being pressured to raise its taxes. The EU coudl learn from Ireland's lead.

Shadowrider>
<<I'm agnostic (well, a bit caustic agnostic), not an atheist,>> Why caustic? Interestingly enough, teh only atheist who I recall being really hostile twoards teh Pope would be Mussolinni and Nietzsche. Hayek actually saw teh good in Organized Religion, which was an interesting point for an atheist to take, but he was an economist, too.

<<So you studied Latin, huh? I studied it for 5 years at HS (I attended a scientific school, but in Italy we believe that even Engineers need a little Classics...) >> Sounds like a very Jesuit ideal; education of the whole person.

I took Caeser in Latin II and was rather impressed with him. He was a brilliant tactician and never took anything lying down.

Are you required to spend a few years in Italy's Military as a general rule? I plan to enter teh US Air Force afetr College, though not as a pilot, but as a Finance Offcier. The USAF also contains the professionals in the military, along with the Navy.

BTW, Catholics don't knwo what will happen in the end, we just have faith and beleive soemthing will happen. I don't liek everything about the Catholci Church, including its resistance to embrace capitalism, and I even disagree with the Pope on Capital punishment, but I love his anti-Communist values, devotion to Mary (I devote my entire life to Mary), and his support for Poland enetering the EU.

<<Ave atque Vale, Green Baron.>> Thank you. Praise and good cheer, right?

Firestorm> Mardi Gras was March 7th. I don't liek jelly donuts, so I'll stick with king cakes :)

Zath> <<As long as a person doesn't hurt anyone else, they should be free to support whatever political system they want.>> But that's the point. I'll only bring in Castro and his chief henchmne, basically the Inner Party. The Outer Party Communists will be granted amnesty if they pledge to consider the free market and give their kids plush Adam Smith and Alan Greenspan stuffed dolls :)

The Cubans of Miami shall determine what justice can be meeted out to Castro :) MY Uncle's ex-fiance will love this and her mother will get the honor of dispensing justice to Castro personally (she lost a brother in the Bay of Pigs so it's only fair) ;)

Aaron> <<and I think I pissed off the guest speaker in my Intro to Women and Gender Studies class.>> If she was some Anita Hill/Pat Schroeder type, congratulations!!!!! If you really want to piss them off, tell the class Phylis Schlafly is your favourite feminist :)

Kacynski and Al Gore have very similar views about the enviornment. They're even worse than Nader.

Selanit> Denver has its advantages, especially with my godson living in Colorado Springs :)

Archwolf> Alas, such is life, but way to go on the date.

Kitainia> I have misgivings about the minimum wage increase. The last one was no problem, because productivity went up with the wage, but generally I see it as a placebo move that hurts teenagers and benefits Unions.

Actually, I'm not pleased with Bush or Gore, but I'd rather that than Buchanan and Wellstone. I'll see what happens, though right now Bush needs to retrun to the cenetr which helped him win re-election by such an overwhelming margin, so he has a few months to prove himself. Gore is in teh pocket of all sorts of interest groups, especially the AFL-CIO (I would love it if they were declared an unconstitutional monopoly and broken into about ten pieces), so I fear he would kill free-trade initiatives. There are third party candidates and thsi would eb a prime opportunity for someone like Harry Browne to be President, if only more pople would consider more than just the two extablishment candidates :( I will probbaly vote for Bronwe unless Bush really proves himself.

Cyborg> Montreal sounds good, too. I like a city with good Mass tarnsit and I knoe about the beauty of the US dollar there :) How bad are sales taxes?

Character Description> Green Baron is of teh same height as I am, but he only weighs 165 lbs and he wears a green three-piece suit with a blue tie (neck tie or bowtie, depending on his mood). A cape is atatched to the suit and tehy are connected by Celtic Crosses attached to his suit's lapels. He also has a mahogany sword cane.

RESUME RP!!
**Reverend Attila and crew are back in a hidden base in Orange County (how's that for irony). Now, Attila has been adding in the spy list from OJ Simpson, and in the next three hours, all of Ted Turner's spies will be located and purged.**
TO BE CONTINUED!!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, March 10, 2000 04:28:07 PM
IP: 141.164.77.196

Shadowrider: (About your fanfic character). Duh! **Slaps herself in forehead** I get it now! _Shadowrider_! How could I have missed it?

And thanks, everyone, for the tonsil sympathies! I'm not so worried anymore; who can turn down an excuse to eat ice cream all day _and_ not have to go to work?

And, speaking of work...that's my next stop! Should be back for the weekend...

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 04:14:58 PM
IP: ncia109n.ncia.net

David> Well actually, Elin Winkler suggested that we have a SAAS theme meeting and "show Key, Serial Experiments Lain, Perfect Blue and some Rei episodes of Evangelion! It'd be the emotionless girls theme meeting!"

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 03:52:59 PM
IP: ppp-188.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

G 2001: Montreal is certainly another possibility -- there are quite a few Canadian gargoyles-fans, and it is readily accessible to the rest of north america.

Which countries was Gargoyles released in? I know it was shown in the USA, Canada, England, France, Norway, and Italy. How about Spain, Mexico, Germany, Japan, China, Iceland, Uruguay, and all those other countries out there?

I think it's probably best to keep the Gathering located in north america. (Canada, the US, upper Mexico.) Though I have no grounds for this, I get the impression that the vast majority of fans likely to want to come to the convention are in Canada and the US, and it would be prohibitively expensive to hold the Gathering on any other continent. However, I could be completely wrong.

Hey, Gathering staff, do you have a "suggestions" page where individuals can submit requests for future Gathering locations?

<end g2001 bit>

Gee, I wonder if my home University offers Toon Disney over the cable in the student's rooms. They didn't last year, and this year I haven't watched much television at all. Can't afford a TV license. Ah, well.

Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 03:51:02 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

Aaron> For a really perfect week you also need a roll (or seven) of Shock Tarts. Allow me to recommend Sorcerer Hunters (if you haven't already seen it) and Serial Experiments Lain (if anyone is renting it) for your viewing pleasure.

I seem to recommend Lain a lot, don't I? That anime hurts my brain. I love it.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 02:51:06 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Whoo-hoo! As of this moment, I am officially on spring break! Grab some brews and hit the beach!

Wait a sec, I don't drink and I hate the beach. Ummmm, grab some Dr. Pepper and rent a buttload of anime! Ahhh, now that sounds like a plan.

Gside, Jaden> Well, actually the class has more guys in it then I thought it would. I remember I was going over my course list with my academic advisor and I said "Intro to Women and Gender Studies... Is that a course on how to meet women?" She laughed, and then did a total facial shift to serious and said "*No*"

As for the guest speaker, she was... well, many things, including a socialist who I think has ties to Puerto Rican independence terrorist groups. We actually agreed on a few things, but she just rubbed me the wrong way. She felt that anyone who the US had labeled a terrorist was really a political prisoner, and that, to a lesser extent, so was everybody else in jail. After she was *finally* finished, she asked for questions. Out of 400 people I was the only one who had a question.

I dunno what she thought this monoblack outfited weirdo in the front row, but I asked her if she thought John Gotti was a political prisoner. Timothy McVeigh? Theodore Kazinski? Were Harris and Klebold political? She said maybe, except that Kazinski definately was. I said that was all I wanted to know, and walked out.

Robbie> Slayers in actually on my list of things to watch over spring break, now that I know Excaliber has it. And I *will* be at this month's meeting.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 02:35:25 PM
IP: ppp-188.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Gathering 2001: Why does it have to be in the U.S.? I happen to think Montreal would be a great place to hold it. We have extensive, wonderfull, convention facilities. A European, multi- lingual atmosphere, an apsolutly beutiful city, with a transit system that is pretty good (and if you are in the city, it will take you where you want to go in fifteen minutes or less). For those who like to stay after the convention, we are the oldest city in the americas, with some of the best places to have fun in like China Town, and the old port. And for la piece de resistance: U.S. dollars are worth a fortune here!

Archwolf: I'm sorry you are having such a hard time of it. It sounds as if you really want to succede in this and that you are trying relly hard. Why is it that all my friends are getting less than they deserve?

Crushes on cartoon characters: I've had alot. Most I can't remember at the moment (I have a memory like swiss cheese). Some of those I can are: big Enzo Matrix from Reboot (Why couldn't Mainframe get funding to continue that show *keens for the loss*), Moto from Biker Mice from Mars, ALL the Ronin warriors at one time or another (including Kento, feel better Gside ;> ) and, of course, Lexington.

Kai: "strange to think of how much close the star and the moon seemen in the sky...yet how far..." *breathless* That's ... increadable Kaioto.

Wilek: Um, I hope I'm not too late... I saw Kit parceling out Canada to Traveler and I just wondered, well, Canada is a big place, he can have most of it, but can I have Quebec and the Maritimes? I have some big ideas on what to do with this language racist regime. *evil grin*

As to my tonsils: I think I still have mine, not sure though, I've gone under a few times and the docters could always have taken them out without me noticing. I have (some) of my orriginal parts, but what hasn't come out doesn't work very well.

Character description: Kit mentioned this thing about character descriptions, I hadn't known you wanted any before, so here it goes: I'm about 5'5", very pale skined with a mass of thick, reddish- brown curly hair which curles all the way down my back. I'm kinda thin, with a thin, oval face with really pronounced cheek- bones and nearly black eyes. I wear a long black skirt, down to my ankles and a black, Elisa- style shirt under an oversized, beat- up, black trenchcoat. My feet are incased in knee high (though you can't see that far up, what with the skirt and all) black Doc Marin's, with brass hooks instead of eyelets all the way up. The boots are WAY to large for my body, they are angles where they should be round and curved, they don't bend as they are supposed to, and they are slightly disturbing to the viewer because they look wrong, they don't look human- even though I do.
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, March 10, 2000 01:44:57 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

just cruisin' through here (I'm a friend of Jannie's!) ;) and I saw the topic on cartoon crushes..

DONATELLO!!!! ;D~~
erm.. from ninja turtles..
and WOODY!!!
from toy story..

Um.. Bob Barker? ;)
even tho' he's notta cartoon he's still sexy. ;)

just thought i'd throw in my cartoon crushes. ;)
of which i still have crushes on. ;)
Lex - [lexatello@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 01:14:51 PM
IP: deimos.support.tus.azstarnet.com

Cartoon crushes> I know someone who had a major crush on Matrix too, Spike. (I didn't see Season 3 til Cartoon Network picked it up, so I wasn't exposed to that) There was a lot for me too... when it was on, I think I had a crush on Captain N (anyone remember that cartoon?), but that's the only one I really remember all that well.

Some rather disturbing news> I don't know if anyone's mentioned this in the CR yet - maybe SJ and JEB have heard about this one - but there's been an ongoing manhunt for this guy out in the Rosedale area who kidnapped his girlfriend, killed three people, and went on a shooting spree - killing a woman driving by in her car and grazing her two-year-old son. To top it off, he was spotted here in Harford County last night. Schools are in lockdown, and I'm staying inside today. Makes me wish I'd just applied for spring break housing at Hood. My name's linked to the story.

Selanit> Well, it'd be a haul, but I could do G2K in Denver. It'd give me a chance to visit my cousins in Colorado Springs too. :)

Niamhgold> Tonsilitis? Ew, I'm sorry... I've never had mine out - I think I came close once, but for some reason they decided to try to take the swelling down with antibiotics instead. I don't recall why - it was years ago - but I think I had the flu on top of that, and my doctor didn't want me to get my tonsils out while I was sick. If you have to go through with it, good luck, and I hope it goes all right for you...

All right, I'm home for Spring Break, and you know what that means? Laundry. Til later, all...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 10, 2000 01:01:13 PM
IP: pm3-1-ppp21.iximd.com

Cartoon crushes>> I'll admit to Disney's Robin Hood, Brooklyn & Lex, Bengali from Thundercats, Wolverine from the Xmen, Matrix from ReBoot, and currently Max from An Extremely Goofy Movie -- which I highly recommend, BTW. *laughs* Mind, it should be observed that I grew UP in the Seventies so I love the soundtrack and Goofy was my dad's favorite cartoon character. He liked it so much that he had "Super-Goof" (popular set of Disney comics in the 70's) painted on his stock car. Won a lot of races with ol' Super-Goof.

Gargoyles Reunion News: We finally posted the winners of the Fanfic Contest -- sorry for the delay but real life has been somewhat more hectic than normal. Here's the results:

For "World's Worst Fanfic" -- Alison Wilgus; runner-up Amy Cyrway.

For "Reunion" -- TGS's own Stephen Sobotka; runner-up Christine Morgan.

For "Diary in the 21st Century" -- Alex Destine; runner-up Jenna.

MGC News>>> The February entries are up and voting should be open soon so drop by http://myst.org/mgc and look them over. The topic was "Love Stories" and there's some really interesting entries this time, ranging from mythology to fairy tales to gothic horror. And yes.... some of us did our own fanfic.... *looks away, blushes*
Spike
Friday, March 10, 2000 10:20:35 AM
IP: pppt14-120.ght.iadfw.net

**RP WARNINGS**

"The Hollywood Ten have failed, sir!" a certain Michigan lawyer is telling Ted Turner with a saddened look on his face. "Once again our enemies have triumphed." "I know that, idiot!" Ted yells back, nearly knocking Geoffrey Fieger down with the force of his voice. Then he calms. "But no matter. I know for a fact that they are currently headed for Los Angeles, where they will find all manner of problems that may result in their deaths. And even if they survive..." "They'll probably be coming after you next, sir." "Then I will kill them! Now I want you to go to Los Angeles, and see that the Ravens are killed off. If they're not, and their enemy Asil survives, recruit her for me." "Why, boss? She'll be a failure." "Yes, but I've grown lonely without Jane, and a young winged demon babe like her would be a perfect replacement." He grins, then yells, "Now go!" "But I don't want to, Wilek Nereus might be there and you know that he killed me before. If he finds out I'm still alive and knows the secret to killing me permanently..." "Go!" Ted snaps in a tone that will brook no argument. Fieger nods that he will and runs out of the room.

Meanwhile in Los Angeles, the Dirty Laundry Gang's truck, followed closely by Asil's black BMW, is approaching the Nielsen building. Suddenly they are cut off by a huge wave of honking traffic coming toward them, most of it in the wrong lane. "What the..." Socko mumbles from the passenger seat of the truck. Just then the ground starts shaking, heavy winds start blowing, and off to the side tidal waves begin to lash Long Beach. "What's going on?!" Asil pulls up next to the DLG and shouts. They all shrug, indicating they don't know. "Uh, maybe we should turn on the radio," James VanDerBeek says and does so. "A completely unexpected huge earthquake is shaking the city again!" a news announcer says over the broadcast. "I'm also getting reports of massive outbreaks of gang violence in South Central, a spectacular fire burning thousands of homes in Beverly Hills, a series of torrential waves striking the beach, and the worst windstorm of the century outbreaking in downtown! The world must be coming to an end! Repent, sinners! Flee for your lives! Get out of the city before you all die! Now!" JVDB clicks off the radio and frowns. "O-kay." "Sounds like the city's going crazy," Nylon Man states the obvious. "I wonder why." "It doesn't matter," declares Asil. "We must not allow this to interfere with our mission. On to the target!" The DLG sigh and nod, and soon both cars are driving downtown again, honking at all the crazed LA citizens going the other way.

**RP TO BE CONTINUED AT POST'S END**

Hi everybody! <waits- then hears people yell "Hi Kit!" and grins> Sorry I haven't been around in a while. School decided to take up all my time. <mutters> But now it's over, temporarily, and spring break for Doug and me has begun! <whoops> Well, not technically, but all our classes were canceled today because of people leaving early, so in essence...:) The point is, I finally have time to post in here. I'll do that now. On with replies. :)

First, I've read the other stories in Sabledrake. They were all pretty good, but unfortunately I didn't think there was anything too spectacularly good in them. Nothing too spectacularly bad either, which is a good thing. :) So I guess I don't really have any comments about them. Sorry. Oh well, maybe next time round there will be more I'll notice and enjoy than there was this time. Maybe some of you will have improved your writing too. I think that is definitely possible. :) Keep up the good work!

Christine: Saw the Reunion stories, and was entertained by you once again. Thanks for writing them. Those gargs of the future were intriguing characters, too bad we never got to see them or their clans in your original fanfic series. :( I too hope to soon hear of the contest results.

Shadowrider: <mutters> Lousy censors. Hope you and other X-Files fans in your nation soon get them to lay off before they start doing worse. :( Glad you're enjoying talking to me, vice versa is also true. <grin>

SOROW: Thanks, it's my pleasure to be a great friend. :) Thanks for letting us know you're alright, too. I was worried. Have fun in San Antonio, do well at that contest. Give them a few extra high kicks for me. :) We'll miss you till you get back.

Joe: Don't worry, I'm sure you'll survive without her. It'll be hard, but you only have to do it a few days. :) Hope you enjoy the 311 concert, Doug and I like the band too and we're envying you right now. :) You're welcome about the support.

Jaden: $ You're welcome. And thanks for the IMO most entertaining Hollywood Ten RP. $

Wilek: So that's the Nereus Project, huh? Good job on it, though I do think you might need to consider a few things. Like, if you're going to make all CR dwellers immortal, does that include people in absentia? And what if some of those people aren't the sort we'd want running the world? (I don't know about you, but I'm not sure I'd want to share power with the links of Paul Allen Nathans, Rene & Satan, or Traveler, though maybe we could let Traveler have Canada and France. :) Also, what if someone decides to use their immortality to take over the world in their own name? Yeah, I know it's hard to believe, but power corrupts. <sighs> Oh well, it's still a good plan, and should have mostly good results if it ever gets realized. Doug and I will probably be ruling Central Texas in absentia if it does, since we'd be spending lots of time on the Matrix. :) But of course we'd make sure the people we left in charge would be worthy and not do anything stupid like let West Mall street preachers and loony egotistical professors harass UT students, downtown drag rats run for Mayor, or reckless drivers get off just because they're football stars. Yes, that has all happened in this town. :( <Dreamcast?> No, I don't have one. The price is a bit too high right now. When it goes down, Doug and I might get one. The graphics we've seen are incredible, and some of the games we definitely want to get our hands on. :) Thanks for that amusing article about the tenth level of Hell, hope I can see it someday (though through a viewer from some place that's better).

Robby, Kyryn: Thanks very much for the Timedancer Season 3 release dates, and the teaser. The prospect of Timedancer on Monday (when I hope it will), combined with the fair, could definitely make this weekend bearable. <sighs at the fact that once again no really good-looking films are coming out> I know the stories will be good when they're out, I look forward to reading them. <grin>

**WARNING- WEEKEND MOVIE SPOILERS**

Saw Mission to Mars on sneak preview last night. Doug and I thought it was going to be good, but it wasn't. <sighs> Weak premise, badly written plot and script, no especially good acting, awful female characters, need I say more? The effects were nice, but that was it. So we don't recommend this one. Practically the only other movie that came out today is Ninth Gate, which we haven't seen yet, but haven't heard good things about either. :( Hope Hollywood soon gets its ass back in gear with making all good films like it did last year. <sighs>

**SPOILERS END**

Coyote: I too still have my tonsils, and they've always been healthy. My brother, on the other hand, doesn't have his and he gets sick all the time. <shrugs> Maybe they're a good thing to keep after all? :) Sorry to hear about your car wreck, hope the damage isn't too expensive to fix. <checks page> BTW, I see WCC still hasn't been updated. Let me guess, you still haven't gotten any character descriptions from people, right? <mutters> Maybe you need to send out reminders, post something in the CRs every day until you get what you need, I don't know. I just know I want to read what happens next in those stories, and the suspense of waiting this long is driving me banannas. Come on, people, don't you care about your characters' fans? Don't you want to read these stories too? <shakes head> Hope I'm not offending anyone, I'm just airing my emotions. :) Oh, and thanks, Coyote for the cake.

Welcome back Jessie Feff, Pistoff, and Zath!

<Moment of Silence for Charles Gray, aka Herr Blofeld>

SJ: Shannen Elizabeth as Wonder Woman and Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft? Talk about two parts whose players need switching! Angelina Jolie is not a big-breasted bimbo who shouldn't be able to do half the gymnastics she can (what I've always seen Croft as, apologies to her Testosterone Legion), and Wonder Woman should at least be played by someone who can act. Her appeal is not all in her figure! <sighs again> Oh well, that's Hollywood, I guess. It has to make stupid mistakes. I guess I'll just have to enjoy my favorite actress in other movies in which she is better suited to act like we all know she can. :)

Green Baron: $ Sorry about the Guliani deal, but thanks for going through with it anyway. :) $ I too would put you on the Supreme Court if I had the choice, but I'd make Atilla Chief Justic instead because he bribed me. <grins, pats cat> Not sure who I'd make the other seven, probably some of those people you named even though I don't know who half of them are. :( <Al Gore becomes President> That ain't gonna happen if I have anything to say about it. Or if a bunch of other voters do, looks like. <sighs> I don't like Gore that much, but do we have to choose a guy like Mr. All-Hat and No-Cattle; I Don't Know What to do, Better ask my Advisers from the Christian Reich; My Dad was a Good President, I have to be too; George W. Bush instead? <rolls eyes> Looks like it. Tell you what, GWB, do what your dad wouldn't do but should have done to the minimum wage and Saddamn Insane, and all will be forgiven. :)

Cartoon Crushes: I too have had many. I've liked Prince Phillip (Sleeping Beauty), Eric (Little Mermaid), Man-At-Arms, Stratos (He-Man), Footloose, Flint, Falcon (GI Joe), Splinter, Raph (TMNT), Mr. Freeze, and Bruce Wayne (Batman TAS, the former because of his dedication). Never really cared for any of the X-Men, they all had too many annoying flaws even if some were kinda cute (the cutest IMO was Archangel, even back then I had a thing for wings), but I did like Venom from Fox's Spiderman and have enjoyed Terry from Batman Beyond (though I liked him better when he went up against villains like Blight). Gargoyles-wise, I like Lex, Goliath, Xanatos (especially :), Derek/Talon, Broadway, and Matt, but I'm also a member of the Brooklyn Estrogen Brigade. Jenna's already said why. :) Don't know the exact reason for my crushes on all these people (David G's answer comes close), but I have them. :) From books, I've had crushes on Mr. Clark from Tom Clancy's work, Raistlin and Sturm from Dragonlance, Arien and Alphonse (Christine's book), and Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time (he better come back in the next book, Mr. Jordan, hear me? :). As for real-world actors, I've always liked Nicolas Cage, Nicholas Brendan, Keanu Reeves (yeah, I know he's dumb, but sometimes that can be an asset. If I ever need a cannon fodder guy to fool and kick around, he'd definitely qualify. :), Conan O'Brien, Andy Richter, Fred Rogers (hey, I grew up watching the guy!), Bruce Campbell, and Timothy Dalton as James Bond. Also have liked Kevin Costner and Sean Connery at times. Of course, none of them compares to the guy I found eventually. <smiles, hugs Doug>

Mecord: Sorry about the dead dog. Hope you get over it soon, like I had to when I was seven. :(

Doug: Hey, I said I was sorry about the line and the ending, didn't I? I didn't know! Quit rubbing it in! :)

Phantom of the Opera: Antonio as the Phantom? I agree with the people who don't like the idea, I can't see it either. Especially since he'd have to go ugly to even look the part. :( Not sure who I'd put in his place, but I know I don't want him in the role. And I definitely don't want to see Madonna, someone who can't even sing that great, as Christine. :(

<sighs> I guess that's all for now. Sorry for all the frowns in this post, most of them have been products of a slow and somewhat depressing week. But, hey, it's all over now, and Spring Break is here. Doug and I are gonna go have fun in it. Later, ppl! <waves>

**RP HERE- CONTINUING**

The Avatar shuttle Grifix comandeered comes into Los Angeles airspace, the Ravens on board. Immediately it begins shaking, getting buffeted by heavy winds. Our heroes look out the window and gasp, seeing the city below them shaking with earthquakes and burning with intense fire, while tidal waves ravage the beach and even an army of lifeguards in orange are not able to save all the drowning people (especially since most of them are sinking due to the weights on their chests). Gunshots are also erupting from South Central and increasingly the rest of the city as well, police and gangs clashing with innocent citizens caught in the middle. Kit sees it all and shakes her head, breaking down in shock. "Is Asil doing all this?" she asks, voice full of disbelief. "I wouldn't believe it if she was," Gubio mutters. "Yeah," Doug agrees. "I knew she was dangerous, but this dangerous?" "It can't all be her," Lathrop says, hand on his sweating forehead. "I'm sensing a lot of elemental activity in the area." "Well, of course you are," Shauna replies. "That fire, the quake, those waves, this wind..." "No, not the kind you can see," Lathrop interrupts. "I mean the Inner Planes kind, elemental entities wreaking havoc on this plane kind, the really bad kind." "Whoa!" Jammer cuts in. "Are you saying that some living creatures are causing all these natural disasters?" Lathrop nods. "Yes. The gang violence is something else, but the fire, the earthquake, those waves, and this wind, are all being caused by elementals summoned here by magic." "We better get down there and do something about them," Doug says. "And stop Asil too," Kit adds. "This has to be a distraction Thailog set up for her. If we don't find her quick and she tries to do whatever she's doing here..." "Fear not, my friends," Grifix assures them. "We will be on the ground soon, where you can get out and fight these dangers. My master's other assistants are probably battling them already. All we have to do is land at LAX and..." Suddenly he is cut off and knocked over by a heavy blast of wind buffeting the shuttle and flipping it over. The pilot screams in fear as the cockpit glass is cracked by successive strikes. "Oh my God!" Lathrop drops his jaw as the ship continues shaking. "I'm sensing a huge air elemental right outside us! It must be the one responsible for this windstorm!" "Oh great!" Keith growls. "This thing just has to be preventing us from reaching the ground!" "Somebody better get out there and deal with it!" Shap suggests, reaching to unbuckle his safety belt. Doug does the same and grabs his jetpack. "Uh, guys, it might not be a good idea to get up now," Stephanie tells them, but they don't pay attention. Neither do Mist, Kit, Tricia, Elena, and Erin, who are all getting out of their seats and drawing weapons. The latter is also unrolling a carpet that should look familiar to Aladdin fans (but the rest of us aren't noticing yet). "You can't go out there!" Jammer leaps out of his seat and grabs Tricia's arm. "You could get killed!" "Then come with me and protect me, idiot!" Tricia tosses him a jetpack. "What else are you good for?" "Hey!" Jammer growls. Kit and Doug are about to intervene before an argument can start between them when the shuttle rolls over again and they are all knocked down, then go falling back and forth screaming as they try to reach the door to get out. Outside, it looks like the ship is being tossed about like a football by a huge floating giant whose body appears composed of the wind itself. Can the Ravens possibly get out and defeat this creature? Find out in the next RP!

**END THIS RP BIT AND THE POST**
Kitainia
Friday, March 10, 2000 09:46:11 AM
IP: pool-209-138-161-96.dlls.grid.net

<Shadowrider enters,in a hurry>
Hi, people, I have a little time, so go with replies!

Poll:> OK, update!

14 Gargoyles
11 Battlesuits
7 Mutates
5 Cyborgs
Fire Storm: thank you for voting :) No disadvantages? As far as I know, the only operating system currently available for cyborgs is a version of Win '98...;D. Anyway, your cyborg actually HAS some disadvantages...for example, it can't fly.
Zath: Hmmm...well, I choosed a battlesuit, but it doesn't mean I'd be going to wear it ALWAYS! (It's not practical to have a shower with a battlesuit on :P) Of course, I'd wear it as I need to, so I think your choice is both for a mutate and for a battlesuit.
Jeremy: Hey, your character seems cool, a kind of Gargoyle version of X-men's Nightcrawler! Thank you for the description. :)

Crushes on cartoon characters:> Apart Angela (and Sata...although she's not really a cartoon character)? Hmmm...there's a lot...hey, practically, I had a crush on almost EVERY female (and good-looking ;)) cartoon character I have met. I had a lot of crushes also on comic-books characters (Jean Grey...oh, my little Jean...) and so on...

Blonds:> Well, in Italy blonds are a bit unfrequent...dark people are for sure a lot more, so usually blond girls have a better chance to attract attention. Anyway, I usually prefer brunettes, but it is not a rule for me.

Warpmind:> <<... not that I'm pro-EU.>> No? Strange...why are you not favourable to EU? I mean, I'm curious to hear your opinion about it. Myself? Well, I'm definitely pro-EU, I think that an increasing union (both economical and political) between European countries will take a lot of benefits, especially in a long period.

Gside:> A Far Side cartoon? Hmm...I see. Good to know...And you're right: I'm going to work with a LOT of turbines (at least I hope...) ;)

Ciao a tutti, see ya!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italia
Friday, March 10, 2000 06:23:30 AM
IP: h213-16-177.mi2.albacom.net

One of you mentioned the Project being on a website? :) Click my name or go to http://nereusproject.cjb.net (warning: vague spoilers for The Matrix). ^_^

**ABSOLUTELY GHASTLY STUFF**

[Wilek grabs a Cartoon Network exec and holds a rabid ferret way too close to his face. Wilek: "This is for getting rid of Reboot." Wilek rams the ferret down the exec's throat, where it will ravage his insides and eventually burst out in a most sick-making way, and then turns to Mr. Disconnect. Wilek: "This is for mysteriously nuking my PC's AutoInsert Notification." Wilek hacks off Mr. Disconnect's limbs and ties him to the rear bumper of a monster truck that is about to compete in the car crushing events, and turns to Sli Sludge. "And this is for whatever I missed." Wilek rips out Sli's intestines, uses them to tie him up, and nails him to the ceiling.]

**END**

Gunjack> Welcome back! :D <<I've been away a long time, so do ya mind filling me in on this Nereus Project thingy? Sounds like fun!>> It's at my name link. :)

Fire Storm> <<You have a crush on Phoebe's twin sister? :)>> Past tense, and it wasn't exactly a crush. ;P And...I don't remember a Phoebe being in The Little Mermaid...<> Oh no, not yours too! :`( <<Guy walks into a nuclear reactor unprotected and SURVIVED! I mean, he wouldn't be able to step more than 10 feet into the reactor before his DNA turned into silly putty, let alone walk back out, fight an alien, and get taken to the hospital where he is healed. Come on!>> Never let the rules get in the way of telling a good story. ;)

Stormy> <<Starscream from Transformers, Silverbolt from Beast Wars (OOOH! SILVERBOLT!!) Jetstorm from Beast Machines>> Why am I thinking of Hyena. ;P j/k

Aaron> <<If we could get the Rolling Calf and JackaL in, we'd have a sweep.>> Not to mention Dumlao and Traveler. Where are those two...<<The Sun Weekly, (which is kinda like the Daily Tattler)'s lead headline this week is: Horrific Plot to Clone Jesus!>> The tabloids are on a roll, it seems--the Weekly World News told of the phenomenon of the demonic possession of computers, which Sluggy Freelance had as a plotline several years ago. O_o

Robby> <<In one particular entry, they found an "expert" on Robin Hood who claimed the characters were all gay, and that this was best illustrated by Disney's rendition. They then cut to a clip of Robin squirting water into Little John's mouth with the line "And he just guzzled it down"...>> >_< <speechless>
Wilek Nereus
Friday, March 10, 2000 05:37:41 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Cartoon Character Crushes:
Hm … you know, I think I'm in the same boat with Firestorm on this one though. When I was a kid I found Wilykit from Thundercats very charming. In gargoyles, strangely, never really liked Angela, but there was something about Demona … that hurt and wounded soul attached to such a strong, once-caring person. *shrugs* Don't ask me, maybe it was just those scenes like in "The Mirror" and that time when she had to cough up the password "Alone." Somehow, that song by Del Amitri "Roll to Me" always made me wonder about Demona and how hard it is to have faith in anything when no one is there for you … I think those were about the only animated females I ever really spent that much time thinking about.

Just finished my first draft of my resume. Boy, it takes some doing to keep things down to one page … I'm hoping that special project in the English department doing the system upgrades scores some brownie-points, you know? I don't want to be scooping ice cream this summer. Nothing wrong with scooping … but in the summer it gets downright obnoxious the volume of business that rages through the store.

Blondes: No, I actually prefer brunettes, though I would never rule out a girl based on her hair color :P I think blondes get more attention because their hair color tends to mesh very easily with more attention-grabbing colors like pink, black, and blues.

Myself, I wish my hair were straight black and thin like my father's, but I got thick brown hair with the cowlick from hell which prevents me from ever growing bangs, so the front is always trimmed off short so you can't notice it. *shrugs*

As for tonsils and wisdom teeth, I've still got everything in its place, appendix, wisdom teeth, tonsils. I dunno, I guess everything fits. *shrugs* Semi-charmed kind of life.

I filed for my philosophy minor today. I'm slated for Metaphysics, Epistimology, and International Business Ethics to round out the Minor. Well … it isn't the law minor I originally planned on, but it is a lot more intellectually stimulating and growth-oriented. Plus, the Philosophy department is full of people who make for great conversation.

While I'm rambling in that half-euphoric state when one begins spring break … I noticed the crescent moon today … such a marvelous spring day. It was warm enough to wear shorts, and I couldn't keep from looking at the sky. It was dusk, and the moon was out, but there was only one star in the sky, bright shining … strange to think of how much close the star and the moon seemed in the sky … yet how far they truly were in the vastness of space is so staggering when you think about it …

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Friday, March 10, 2000 03:04:00 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Zath><<it was actually a very good week.>> That's good, look on the sunny side of things. ;)

Aaron-pissing off the guest speaker. That reminds me of when I was taking "Marriage and Family", I was one of two guys in that class. At first whenever a gender related issue was brought up everyone would turn and look at me as if I was the personification of every aspect of the male gender. Does the phrase, "Choose your words carefully." mean anything to you. Thankfully that changed after awhile.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos
Friday, March 10, 2000 02:14:35 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Gundam Wing-

One comment... who else is severely falling in love with Xex(the guy with the mask... I dont know how to spell it)...
Also I like the two gundam pilots who were playing music... that was awesome (they seem to have a yaoi thing going.. but my mind just naturally goes to that.)
That and that Hero guy is just... evil.

Who are suppose to be the good guys in this cartoon?!?!
Mara Cordova
Friday, March 10, 2000 01:10:36 AM
IP: spider-tm051.proxy.aol.com

Spacebabie> <<Rowan from Ronin warriros>>: And just what is wrong with Kento (of Hardrock)?

Aaron> <>: I don't think a male could do anything else in that class...

Fire Storm> DVD capacity: But what is the capacity for straight video? I mean, a CD can only hold 74 minutes of sound, but if you put it through a MPEG-3 compressor, you could fit ~10.83 hours of sound (depending on bitrate).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, March 10, 2000 12:31:57 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Hey everyone. Well, SOROW left for San Antonio this morning. What am I going to do with out her????? I miss her already. What's pathetic is that she's going to be back on Monday, but I don't know how long I'm going to be able to stand it! Well, I guess I'll just have to patiently wait for the 311 concert which is in two days. Hopefully that will get my mind off of things. Spring break here I come!
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 11:57:10 PM
IP: spider-tn034.proxy.aol.com

Aaron- Ya know, I have a comkplete run of ElfQuest for the first 15 or so years if ya want to find out more about it... And I also have the first two seasons of Slayers if ya want to see more of that at the next SAAS meeting.(March 26th, with a lot of RAW Japanese stuff, Perfect Blue subtitled, and of course, Brother Dear Brother...)

The Daily Show take on Robin Hood- Alright, you all asked for it...

In one particular entry, they found an "expert" on Robin Hood who claimed the characters were all gay, and that this was best illustrated by Disney's rendition. They then cut to a clip of Robin squirting water into Little John's mouth with the line "And he just guzzled it down"... Very disturbing the way they did it...

And I gotta go now, its time for Gundam!
Robby
Thursday, March 9, 2000 11:54:42 PM
IP: spider-ti061.proxy.aol.com

Zath: <Does anyone know why having a scanner and/or printer in close proximity to a monitor would make the image on the screen jumpy and twitchy but only do it when they are turned on?>
Yep. Scanners and Printers both have unshielded motors, which are just big magnets. Your monitor also relys on magnets, so putting another magnet near it kinda screws it up.

Warpmind: 
Oh, I know. I just thought that was funny.
But could you just imagine what would happen if those pictures came up in the next election? Yep. She would win with 90% of the male votes. :)

Gside: <Probably becase she can't act, and sounds horrible.>
Ah, meer technicalities. Just dub her voice with the lara croft voice from the game!

Tim P: <Wrong. The IR detector, GPS system, and other features are electronic, but the new rifle itself is pneumaticly powered.>
BUT don't forget that the trigger IS computerized so it will eliminate friendly fire and the enemy grabbing the gun.

Selanit: <Ok, here's an interesting hypothetical question: how many episodes of Gargoyles would fit on a DVD if you took out all the commercials?>
Ok... standard MPEG2 quality: 6-10, depending on which size DVD.
Different quality: 40 (350-400 mb per 20 minutes)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 11:03:49 PM
IP: t1-19.visitus.net

Archwolf; Whoah. What can I say except that must REALLY SUCK!

Gunjack; Tried to send you this via e-mail but someone (glares menacingly at DC) wouldn't let me. Here's the link to those Garbage MP3's I found.
http://localhost:1234/HLPage?pg=http%3A//www.audiofind.com%3A70/%3Faudiofindsize%3D0%26audiofindsearch%3DGarbage&qt=Garbage
Son't know how to link this thing to my name or anything so I guess you'll just have to copy and paste it into your browser. Hope this'll do!

Night!
Infinity
Thursday, March 9, 2000 09:27:56 PM
IP: nltc-57-9.nltc.net

Sorry for the double post, I forgot to mention this:

Saw "American Movie last Saturday. Great movie, see it if you get the chance. Well, see it if the idea of a documentary doesn't turn you off. It's a very entertaining documentary about a Wisconsin man's quest to film a feature film. And his buddy Mike just cracked me up. He sorta reminded me of Silent Bob...
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 09:14:49 PM
IP: ctrts3-1.mrs.umn.edu

You know what I hate? Being sick. Of course, I _am_ sick right now; have been since the beginning of the week. And likely will miss an exam tomorrow. Gack.

On Antonio as the Phantom--I don't want to see this happen. I can't really say why. Yes, he is a pretty good singer, but he's just not _right_ for the Phantom, to my reckoning...Let him be Raoul.

Coyote > <<re: "Heavenly Creatures": Great flick!>> Ah, a gentleman of marvelous taste! "All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases...it's all _frightfully_ romantic!" And do you know that mystery writer Anne Perry is really Juliet Hulme all grown up?

Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 09:10:59 PM
IP: ctrts3-1.mrs.umn.edu

*Staggers into the CR. Then teeters precariously on the precipice of burnout, and just manages not to fall.*

**Warning..Rant follows****
Ok. Last weekend was good. Great tournament at Notre Dame. Got back to cleveland EARLY monday morning, then took a greyhound home for spring break (2.5 days of it, during which my ISP was down, so no 'net). Got very little sleep. Found out two MORE of my highschool classmates are dead (since our sophmore year of HS, my class (BP 97) has lost a memeber a year). Went to watch my highschool fencing team practice. How a team that has taken 8 titles in two years (two state, 3 league titles (2 girls, 1 boys) 4 section titles (2 each boys and girls)) can degenerate SO FAR in the space of just a couple months in beyond me. There are 5 teams in the section this year, 4 of which make playoffs. My team probably will not. NOne of them are putting any effort into it. So I came back to cleveland today, got in about 15 minutes before practice started. The only thing that went right in practice is that the women's team captain agreed to go out with me on St. Patrick's day. And now we are leaving at 10 tomorrow morning for a tournament (regional qualifiers) which i stand no chance of doing well enough in to qualify for NCAA Championships. So I waisted 6 days of spring break for nothing. **wipes away frustrated tears**
**End rant***

Mec>Sorry to hear about your dog. They do tend to become real people and family members, don't they. Rime of the ancient Mariner: Liked that one until we mauled it in my 12th grade AP Lit course.

Unfortunatly, I also won't be able to attend G2K...thanx a heap, mom and dad.

I'm going to go before i really start ticking ppl off, or dragging them down with me.
Shade and Sweet water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 08:17:58 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Gathering 2001:
How about Denver, Colorado? It's got the advantage that it's more or less equidistant from everywhere in the states; and because it has an incredibly super-huge airport, airfares are likely to be reasonable. (English fans will be happy to note that British Airways is building a whole concourse of its own, which will make it a major hub for travel between England and the western US). Denver positively ridden with convention centers and the like.

For those who feel like staying a bit after the convention, there are lots of sights to see. The Colorado Renaissance Festival; Six Flags Elitch Gardens; the Denver Zoo; the Denver Museum of Natural History; a fine selection of restaurants. And don't forget the Rocky Mountains, providing huge wilderness areas for hiking, camping, fishing, and all manner of outdoor sports.

Besides, I live in Denver. What more could you ask for? <grin>

(Note: actually I'm living in England right now, but that's temporary . . . student exchange).
<end G2001 bit>

Ok, here's an interesting hypothetical question: how many episodes of Gargoyles would fit on a DVD if you took out all the commercials?

Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 07:40:19 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

Aaron > LOL, well, I'm sure I couldn't have been the first or only to come up with the idea of the Shroud! ; ) Tim and I were going to write a novel together with that premise, but it just never flew, so I saved the idea and then when I met Sevarius, hey, it just seemed perfect!

Fire Storm > oh, it's not that _everybody_ thinks that story's bad. It's that I personally detest and am ashamed of it. While I have written about many more disturbing topics, it's never been in so crass, tacky, and vulgar a manner :P

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 06:53:16 PM
IP: 05-016.009.popsite.net

Was up peoples just got a chance to read the garg episode where they were changed into humans 4 a day.I have been reading 2 or 3 story's a day.At this rate i should be caught up in no time.I also want to read time dancer it sounds mad ill as it is all about brooklyn{shame on you when u step through.....BROOKLYN zoo}.I like how someone actualy died and how it was from something more then an explosion.The story's are definitly getting more real and adult oriented.That's where the series should be heading in a more real and violent direction.I logged on to s8 and asked Greg if hbo picked up the series would he make it more REAL like spawn u know wit cursing,nudity and gore.Haven't got the answer yet but when i do i will post it 4 any who are interested.MECORD<<:Sorry about your dog my friend actually just lost his dog to it was a beagel named bishop.Just gotta remember all dog's go to heaven.SHADOWRIDER<<:I never gave a discription of what i would look like as a gargoyle.I would be about 6'1 with long blond hair and a light mustach connected to a gotee.I would have a human looking face with to big black horns on my forehead.I would have pure white skin with black swirlls giving me a marbelish look.A huge wing span and a normal size tail.My body would be adorned with scars that stand out because of there black color.Real muscle cut body and a little bit over sized claws.When angery my eyes would glow with a deep red color.Like desperado the night shadows would almost dance on my features keepin them hidden with only glimpses of them in the moonlight.That is how i would look...........if u have not already guesed this is a charicter i had made up for my own story's.Pretty phat huh?
Jeremy - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 05:09:49 PM
IP: nas-9-112.boston.navinet.net

Geez, what a day. McCain dropping out, the Mavs just waived Rodman, No-neck died, and I think I pissed off the guest speaker in my Intro to Women and Gender Studies class.

Moment of silence for Charles Gray.

Robbie>Ninjara>Well, chin up. Genus' Desert Storms series finally got started again after a two year hiatus, so anything's possible. (Wish they'd do some more Rhiannon tho')

Mara> They say gentlemen prefer blondes. Yet another reason I prefer redheads. ;)

Gunjack> Welcome back. We've had you, Zath, and Pistoff in one week. If we could get the Rolling Calf and JackaL in, we'd have a sweep.

Warpmind> I'm not really all that familiar with ElfQuest per se, but all the elves in it look kinda like short Vulcans to me. Click my name to see a pic of Cleah from Poison Elves. What can I say, I have a thing for tall, well-armed women.

Christine> The Sun Weekly, (which is kinda like the Daily Tattler)'s lead headline this week is: Horrific Plot to Clone Jesus! Thought you'd get a kick out of that.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, March 9, 2000 03:54:27 PM
IP: ppp-102.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Fire Storm:<<Yet. Have you seen the specs for the new rifles? Totaly computerized.>> Wrong. The IR detector, GPS system, and other features are electronic, but the new rifle itself is pneumaticly powered. Older services rifles like the M-16 will still be used by the military for years to come.

Zath: <<However, if you jam their computers well enough, they won't be able to determine your location, and they can't shoot what they can't find.>> Realistically? Not gonna happen. No doubt that they've prepared for that possiblity.

Tim P.
Thursday, March 9, 2000 02:32:26 PM
IP: s3-onawa.pionet.net

Cartoon Crushes: Boy I wondered for a long time if I was the only person warped enough to get crushes on cartoon characters.

Hmmm: Brooklyn from Gargoyles, Starscream from Transformers, Silverbolt from Beast Wars (OOOH! SILVERBOLT!!) Jetstorm from Beast Machines, Don Karnage from TaleSpin, had a thing for Shere Khan too...

ANd I have to mention Whitbourne from Dylan P. Blacquiere's fanfic, I think I had a crush on Whitbourne/Dylan from the moment I read his stuff. (Am I a stalker? I dunno...do you get engaged to a stalker??? *lol*)
Stormy
Thursday, March 9, 2000 01:08:48 PM
IP: pc20.huron.uwo.ca

***Enters Grinning***
Chibi Deliah-Chan,Squall-kun and Angel-kun hold up signs that say
"She made 25 dollars babysitting"
andthe good thing was that they were perfect Angles
"no not like you my chibi vamp"

Mecord>>>Ah yes that was a great poem..and I have to admit that Samuel Taylor Coleridge is one of my favorite Romantics.
Ever notice that his initals STC sound like Extacy?
Blonds>>>I am a blond and I'm, proud of it...but my eyes are brown and not blue though...ok I was bron blond and it started to darekn in highschool ,so I dye it...I'm just replenishing what nautre took away, anyways I would love to dye my hair the color of the words here.
Cartoon Crushes>>>Besides Brooklyn? I think i've listed mine,Terry from Batman Beyond,Darien/Mamarou,Rowan from Ronin warriros,vegeta from DBZ,Cliud and Vincet from FF7 and Squall from FF8
Live actor crushes>>>Whoo boy, I fell for Tom Cruise when I was 11, and I'm still kind of loyal David duchovnby and nicholas Leah(Krycek)from the X-Files, David Boreanez from angel(Althoug after Wesley fired that mini arrow into tht guy's hand Alexis is starting too look good) Nicholas Brendon and James Marsters from Buffy...and ok I'll admit Antohony Stewart Head looks good for a guy in his forties(Must be when Giles had that chainsaw and the fact ASH played Timm Curry's character for Rocky Horr at theater)
Topher Grace from that 70's show and Brendan frasier...He and Topher have those sweet puppydog eyes.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:06:52 PM
IP: user-37kaomm.dialup.mindspring.com

Infinity> <<I've tried downloading MP3's from Lycos and MP3 box but I keep getting this message that says server has returned extended information>>: It's most likely not your fault. MP3 servers are very unsteady, and many die quickly (due to legal problems, etc.), so chances are you just hit sites that are still in the search database, but have been stopped.

Mecord> The Rime of the Ancient Mariner: I'll never be able to look at it the same way after reading "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency."

Gunjack> R^3: That was me, and you can follow my link to find it.
<< LOVED the new mp3... And good imagery, too!>>: Aha, someone else who downloads my mp3s. Let's see, that makes... sigma i=... dx... e^... 2 people. I don't know, I like The Band, and yet no one else even knows about them.

Shadowrider> rocket science: My quote was almost directly from a Far Side cartoon (imagine 3 guys in lab coats around a misshapen rocket with one commenting on the relative intelegence of the group). And, as my second guess was, you'll probably be working with a lot of turbines.

Fire Storm> <<Why don't they just get the look alike they have for [the Tomb Raider] commericals>>: Probably becase she can't act, and sounds horrible.

Zath> <<Does anyone know why having a scanner and/or printer in close proximity to a monitor would make the image on the screen jumpy and twitchy but only do it when they are turned on>>: Well, since ptinters and scanners are both electronic devices, I would assume that they put out some sort of electric and/or magnetic field, which is what a CRT uses to control the path of the electrons. If they aren't shielded well enough, they could probably effect the monitor.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:04:48 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

*Warpmind enters. His adopted chibi family follows along, Benjamin now at preadolescent age.*
The little tyke sure grows fast, eh?

Fire Storm: Um, I think you misunderstood me... I seriously doubt Margot Yale posed for gargoyle pictures when she was in college. As for this computer stuff; well, unfortunately, I don't have the money to buy it (I live on what is near a starvation budget, only I do get to eat occasionally), and import wouldn't help cutting the price, as there's a hefty import tax on electronics. Now, had Norway been a member of EU, things might have been different... not that I'm pro-EU. Either way, a new PC seems improbable in my near future.

Caliope: Half way 'round the world? Um... okay, where do you live, again? (I thought you lived in Spain, or something, but my geographical skills are, quite frankly, laughable.)

Zath: So, I can consider myself lucky, in regard to Cool World? :) It sounds like a "c" movie. (Four categories: "A" movie; major budget, usually some sloppy drama like Titanic, "B" movie; large category containing most action films, with a slightly lower budget, "C" movies, which often wind up just terrible, like the ever-infamous Plan Nine, and "D" movies, made on no budget, and wind up receiving Oscar statuettes, like Evil Dead. At least, this is how I percieve the category definitions.) As for jamming their computers so they can't find you... the deforestation scene from Predator 1 comes to mind...

Well, later, gang. :)
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, March 9, 2000 11:06:34 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

D'oh! "yoe" was supposed to be "yet." **Zath beats the typo-demon over the head with one of Mr. DC's severed arms and then goes back to working on homework.**
Zath
Thursday, March 9, 2000 08:24:35 AM
IP: ppp-229-163.usc.edu

Just one more day of classes remains until I'm free for spring break. I saw Mission to Mars this evening. It's tolerable as long as you ignore *EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW ABOUT SCIENCE*. The DNA stuff especially irritated me. However, strangely enough, I actually liked the ending.

Doug> <<they changed the "Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun!" part>> They did *WHAT*!?! That's the best line of the movie!

SJ> <<they're thinking of casting Antonio Banderas as the Phantom. I'm kind of torn on this>> It could be worse... Last year there were several rumors of John Travolta getting the part. Travolta's an okay actor, but the part seems completely wrong for him. However, I think just about anything would be better than the Robert Englund version (yes, I know it wasn't a version of the musical, but I think it was the most recent film adaptation of the Phantom story) they made a decade or so ago.

Tim P.> <<You might be able to jam a couple of their computers, but you can't jam their rifles>> However, if you jam their computers well enough, they won't be able to determine your location, and they can't shoot what they can't find.

Jaden> <<I'm just guessing here but that was a very bad week for you wasn't it?>> Other than not being able to walk well for a while (it's amazing how much one sore toe effects the entire stride) and looking even worse from behind than usual, it was actually a very good week.

Warpmind> <<Alas, I've never seen Cool World. Not that I know I have, anyway>> Don't feel like you're missing out on anything. It was a really bad movie (922 voters on the Internet Movie Database gave it an average of 4 out of 10 stars) that was apparently made when Brad Pitt, Gabriel Byrne, and Kim Basinger were all having major career slumps, because I can't imagine any other reason (except maybe blackmail) that they would agree to do such a stinker. It's about a comicbook artist who thinks he's creating a fictional world but is actually tapping into an alternate dimension where humans and cartoons can interact. He falls through a gap in reality, meets the people he thought he created, gets seduced by one of them, and has sex with her, which upsets the balance of the universe, and everyone else has to scramble to fix the situation.

Anne> <<chibi-Ash as he eyes the local CR surroundings* Um, I don't think I can keep this particular chibi with me. Claw's enough to handle, and that chainsaw looks rather dangerous..... He's anybody's, first grabs.>> Unless I missed someone's post, I haven't seen any other takers yoe, so can I have Chibi-Ash? It shouldn't be too difficult to convince him that Thailog Horror isn't a deadite, and Chibi-Sevarius needs a playmate.

Shadowrider> <<After a hour of mind-torture I decided to...add a vote both to battlesuits and mutates>> I think I would probably belong in the mutate category, because the mutations would be permanent while the battlesuit would only worn when I needed it.

Green Baron> <<We capture Castro and all the Communists who survive and bring them to trial in Miami.>> Communism in itself isn't a crime. As long as a person doesn't hurt anyone else, they should be free to support whatever political system they want.

Patrick Toman> <<bid to host G2001 in Los Angeles>> I'd love to have a gathering in a place I actually have a chance of getting to, but after the conditions of the past couple months, I have to disagree with the "excellent weather year-round" part.

Niamhgold> <<getting my tonsils removed is going to look like clipping toenails compared to wisdom-tooth removal>> I never had my tonsils taken out, so I don't know how it compares, but getting my wisdom teeth out wasn't as painful as I thought it would be (although I'm still bitter about having to lose my rear molars in addition to the wisdom teeth and trying to register for classes for my first freshmen semester of college while still recovering from the anesthetic was a nightmare). The perpetual taste of blood in my mouth for the first week bothered me a whole lot more than the aching. I'm a carnivore, not a vampire. I knew there were always pills available for the pain if I wanted to take them (I stuck to just using massive amounts of ice), but nothing could cover that taste. If it had lasted much longer I think I would have gone nuts in the bad way.

Robby> <<Although after seeing the Daily Show there's one scene I can never see in the same light again...>> Do we want to know?

Fire Storm> <<At the very worst I say get them both. You never know when you may be able to trade one for something you want>> I ended up buying one. The other was already taken by the time I went back. The outside has three pictures of Goliath, and the thermos has a picture of Goliath fighting ninjas. It also came with a little purple plastic dish that didn't have any decorations, which I thought was odd, because it would have looked better if they had at least put the Gargoyles logo on it or something. <<the occasional computer glitches>> You mean like getting so angry you fry some chips and end up spending the rest of the day with both hands and the toes of one foot frozen in obcene gestures? : )

Random Hardware Question> Does anyone know why having a scanner and/or printer in close proximity to a monitor would make the image on the screen jumpy and twitchy but only do it when they are turned on?

Okay, I've now procrastinated for over 4 and a half hours and I really need to start writing a paper that's due tomorrow (technically today, at this point), so I'll wish everyone a good night/good morning and then get to work. Bye for now.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 08:16:58 AM
IP: ppp-229-163.usc.edu

Pistoff- Those pics of Shauntell are exceptional!!!!!!!!!!
I love her art- she has also done some pics for my story that I need to put up asap- they are awesome!! ^_^
jenna aka Cairo of Clan SteelClaw
Thursday, March 9, 2000 08:13:28 AM
IP: 1cust172.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Hey! :)

Gside> Well I still insist otherwise and if this is just a local thing and the rest of the world is full of available men, then we better start advertising room for rent on this island to get some here! :P

Warpmind> "You'd be amazed at my availability. ;) ".......You live half way `round the world!!!!! What do you mean your available!!!! :P Really, I have a bunch of net friends I wished lived next door! :P

Might I just add here quikly....I HATE RERUNS!!!!!!....OK, I`m done, thank you!

Well, gotta scoot! I`ll be reading ya later! :P Bye!!*HUGZ*HUGZ*HUGZ*

Caliope
Thursday, March 9, 2000 07:30:50 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

Dune: One of the first things I got for Lady Mystic was a copy of the movie Dune. I had to search stores and movie rental places before I could find it. (of course a few months later it was back on TV. Oh well...)

Aaron: <The Age of Wonders>
I have that game. At least I think I do. But I love those types of games. I spend literaly days straight playing those games some times. Who needs sleep anyway?
Well, I have to say that the G2001 site is at least very organized.

Zath: <I'm half tempted to get one when I go out to get dinner later>
At the very worst I say get them both. You never know when you may be able to trade one for something you want. (Like the action figures, for example)

I like your version MUCH better!
<or do you mean being able to tell by feel? Either way, severe ouchie!>
Both. (Rubs arms in memory). I have yet to really have a third degree, but I have had quite a few first degree's and too many second degrees. (Oh, if your entire arm blisters from a burn and the skin peels off, you would expect the hair to come with it, right? But it didn't!)
<However, was it directly connected to the brain or just reacting to the electrical changes it detected from the outside? >
Outside. BUT there has been direct connections to robotic things with roaches and hawk moths.

Crushes on cartoon characters: I am not sure who my first cartoon crush was, but I DEFINATELY had crushes on cartoon characters. I think the female twin from Thundercats was one of the firsts for me, probally because she was just a little older than me.

SJ: I don't know if I like the idea of Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft. Why don't they just get the look alike they have for their commericals?
<Scooby Doo (And as the illustrious Mrs. Morgan has shown us>
Ya know... for the life of me I can't figure out why people think this story is so bad? I mean, Christine HAS written about other more disturbing things, and those are rarely mentioned. I was expecting something terrible when I first read it. But I found nothing that bad. Maybe it's just me...
<Most non-fuzzy cartoons are...shall we say, "meant to please".>
Well, even the warm a fuzzy ones have that too. I remember a episode of Gummy Bears where Sunny had quite a figure. Of course, that WAS disney, and we all know that Disney animators are all horn-balls, right?

Wilek: <Ursula>
You have a crush on Phoebe's twin sister? :)

Coyote: <Kira from "The Dark Crystal.">
Really? Hmm... for some reason that surprises me.
As for that re-mastered version, they took long enough, didn't they?
<PACZIS FOR EVERYBODY!!>
Hey, are those a semi-regional thing, or are they everywhere?
I have been seeing those at Farmer Jack since January. I though Fat Tuesday was a month ago!

Mecord: <Our spaniel died last night. :(>
I am sorry to hear that. At least your spaniel was loved very much.
I fear my dog may not have much longer. My dad thinks she had a seizure the other day. :(

Gside: <Dang, gotta recalibrate with time.gov... >
At least I am not the only one to do that.

Tim P: <you can't jam their rifles>
Yet. Have you seen the specs for the new rifles? Totaly computerized.

Henson Co: WHY THE HELL DID HIS SON SELL IT?

7 days: Did anyone see 7 days this week? Guy walks into a nuclear reactor unprotected and SURVIVED! I mean, he wouldn't be able to step more than 10 feet into the reactor before his DNA turned into silly putty, let alone walk back out, fight an alien, and get taken to the hospital where he is healed. Come on!

Warpmind: <which makes me wonder about Margot Yale's view on gargoyles... ;)>
She posed back in college to earn a little more money. Thats how she met Brendon. The brother of the photographer. :)
Ya know... (aside from shipping concerns) computers here can be built for $500. And I mean Celeron 500, 128 mb ram, 13gb HD, etc, etc.
Or ya could always try e-bay.

Patrick: All right! A contest!
MYHR? Cool!

Gathering 2001: Well for both places I have relatives close by. (A downside)

Robby: <(Although after seeing the Daily Show there's one scene I can never see in the same light again...)>
Care to explain?

Pistoff: Not to light a powder keg, but are you now working at a different pizza hut?

Katara: <WTF are paczis?>
Basicailly they are very fattening jelly doughnuts.

Shadowrider: <become a Cyborg? (What would you replace in your body?)>
90% of internals. (Skeleton, hydrolic augmented mussles...)
External: Near 0%.
Disadvantages? Why? If it is designed correctly, there dosn't have to be disadvantages. (Although I guess the inability to go through a metal detector might be one, along with the occasional computer glitches.)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 04:55:41 AM
IP: t3-75.visitus.net

<Shadowrider glides in the Room from a [closed] window>
Greetings to everyone! <Nonchalantly removes broken glasses from himself> Well, le's go with replies.

GB:> Hey, I don't hate the Pope; as I said, I'm agnostic (well, a bit caustic agnostic), not an atheist,so I have nothing against the Pope as long as he works on his believers' souls. I just don't like him to interfere in my country's politics. (I have nothing also against Catholics an in general against believers, indeed I envy them! I envy them because they have a faith, they KNOW what will happen them in the end, while I know nothing and I am only able to wonder uselessly. I used to have a faith, but I lost it years ago and, since then, I've not been able to believe in no God. :-|)
About what if the Pope was in my domain...well, as long as he don't interfere with my ruling, I'll allow him to live (and lie) unharmed. Of. course, if he will not be satisfied of this...< grins maliciously> ;-)
Latin:> So you studied Latin, huh? I studied it for 5 years at HS (I attended a scientific school, but in Italy we believe that even Engineers need a little Classics...) and I liked it a lot. My preferred author is Julius Caesar, I like his simple, essential style.
Ian Paisley: Oh, yeah, I heard about him in the news, now I remember. Thank you for the explanation anyway. :)
Ave atque Vale, Green Baron.

Niamhgold:> Well, thank you so much for the reply-and for encouraging me! :) Of course, I want you to read my fiction as I'll complete it. By now,I've written just a few, frenzied pages in the last two nights (I have no spare time in daytime, so I think I'll have to write at night). You know, it's since I finished HS (4 years ago...time flies away!) that I don't write any fiction (I wrote a few novels for school's press). I don't know when I'm going to finish it -BTW, I'm writing it in Italian, so I'll have to translate it- but I'll finish it-I swear it!
About the name of the character (BTW, I think he'll be a kind of mercenary or bounty-hunter-at least,in the beginnning)...well, I thinked about Nightflier...or Blackhawk...I liked Airwolf too...but these names are too old...so I decided for...(Hint: He usually hides in shadows-indeed, he seems to move in shadows, merging in them and coming out at your back...you could say he rides them...);)
Aerospace Eng.: You're right, it is a very interesting field, especially if you're interested in aircrafts. I loved them since I was a child, especially fighter jets. I wanted to join Italian Air Force and become a Typhoon figter pilot, but I couldn't (my right eye is slightly myopic) so I decided to project fighters instead of driving them.
Oh,I was forgetting, I'm 22 and I still have my tonsils on, I never had any prob about them.;)

Gside:> Thank you for the idiomatic note, I didn't know it (In Italy, to mean the same thing, we use "scienziato nucleare" (nuclear scientist) as in "Be', non occorre essere scienziati nucleari per capire che ti sbagli!"...curious, isn't it?).
Here Aerospace Engineering is not a division of anything, it's a degree course of its own, we have our own department (a complex of new buildings with an enormous wind tunnel-they just completed it. If you want, you can see something at www.polimi.it...some info are a bit old, but not too much). For your question...well, I hope to be a rocket scientist, but I don't want to work on rockets <grins> ...as I said to Niamhgold, I love figher jets and that is the field I want to work in.

Pistoff:> I agree with you about Disney. For your Terminator face...well, I think we could arrange it! ;D

Gunjack Valentine:> Hi! I'm really glad to meet you.
About the poll...well, it's a little thing I launched a couple of weeks ago. Essentially, the question is:
If you was granted the choices that Xanatos offered to the Pack in "Upgrade", would you like to:

A: become a Gargoyle? (How would you look like?)
B: become a Mutate? (What kind of mutate?)
C: become a Cyborg? (What would you replace in your body?)
D: wear a Battlesuit? (What kind of battlesuit? What would you like it to do?)

If you like, feel free to vote, sending also a short explanation (why did you choose that?). Remember: You can choose intermadiate categories (Cyborg/Mutate) but your choice has to have some disadvantages, and no magic has to be involved (you can't be like Demona, turning in human at dawn, 'cause she obtained it by sorcery). If you are wondering, I choosed a battlesuit, and, if you like, you can enjoy reading the previous answers (the poll started at 25 of February).
See ya!

Ciao a tutti, see you later!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, March 9, 2000 04:15:34 AM
IP: h213-18-244.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind slinks in, slightly stressed.*
Well, I'm making some great progress on my RPG system (Information Technology: Systems Development class project). A functional beta might actually be ready within two weeks!

Caliope: You'd be amazed at my availability. ;)

Aaron: Ah, I get your point. Where Age of Wonders is concerned. Poison Elves, I am unfamiliar with. This situation should have to be corrected within a reasonable amount of time. And by the way, you can't seriously deny you don't think Leetah looks good. ;)

Green Baron: Do I detect a minor amount of ill will against Fidel Castro here? ;) Actually, Castro isn't really a bad guy. To make matters worse: he wasn't a commie to begin with (and he's running a lot of softening policies these days, still going strong); he was first labeled as one, then was driven by the US into Khrustsjov's hands. And the big point here: wanna know who first labeled Castro as a communist? None other than Tricky Dicky himself... kinda makes you wonder, eh?

Pissy: Beautiful Joyride segment. Only one thing: are there such anthills in the middle of Vegas? ;) Fret it not; the segment is stored for posting as soon as I get FTP access. (Gotta wait until I can use my old man's PC.)

Fave music from Gargs: Well, I must confess... MacBeth's theme. Played on the bagpipes.

Wilek: Oh, good. I wouldn't want angered Xothi breathing down my neck. After all, they might be a bit... vengeful... if they caught the guy who braided Cthulhu's beard... What's that, you say? He doesn't have a beard? He's WHAT??? Ooooh, he's REALLY gonna be upset when he awakens... ;) As for the Shadowrider deal, good. That is relieving. And where Castro is concerned... I yield to the majority. Personally, I'm pondering to set in motion a line of policies similar to those used by the Nazis in Germany during the 1930's. Mind you, I'll have none of the ethnicity stuff; just the bits with work for everyone, improved roads throughout the realm, and that stuff.

Gunjack: Don't I know I need a new computer? I've been stuck with the same 486 for more than half a decade, and constantly nagging at my parents to get me a new one. The REALLY annoying thing is that my dad recently got a PIII 350 through work. And I still have a 486SX33. Life is most certainly unfair. Oh, by the way... when the RPG system I'm developing is done (the beta), care to give it a look, maybe point out any flaws you see? (Playtesting would also be appreciated.)

Tonsils: Still got mine intact. Never had a problem with'em. In fact, I have all my original parts intact.

Well, gotta run. More RPG definitions to... define.

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, March 9, 2000 04:08:04 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

****NO RP!!!****

Anne-3rd book, that's "The Queen of the Damned" right? Good book, I was just thinking of reading it again.

Mecord-Sorry about you dog.

Green Baron- It was a disappointment for sure I think it was something like over 1.3 million for it and only 900,000 against. I'm sure it will change sooner or later when more people wake-up. Imagine what all those people must be feeling right now.

Niamhgold- I'm lucky to have never gotten tonsillitis, but headcolds are another story. Sometimes my head gets so wacked that I can't think straight. As for going to the doctor well, lets just say that the last time I went in for a yearly check-up was about three or four years ago and that was because my parents made me.

Sorow-For me as soon as I got a chance to lie down I fell into a very, very deep sleep for a few hours, which is probably a bad sign after getting knocked on the head. Good luck in San Antonio and hurry back.

See ya later!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos
Thursday, March 9, 2000 02:24:57 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

Quick post for now.... Just added two new pics by Shauntell Holm to my site. Both feature Thailog...a rather messed-up Thailog. Heh heh... Click my name to see them. :)

More replies soon....
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 02:17:49 AM
IP: cb2-85.transport.com

Okay.. not much time, so only 2 comments to make::

1) G2001===>L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.!L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.! L.A.!

2) WTF are paczis?

Nighters all!--*fade to black*
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Thursday, March 9, 2000 02:12:52 AM
IP: 98aca86c.ipt.aol.com

*DC sits nervously at a table in a bare corner of the CR, surrounded by members of the Black Mesa Cleanup Team. Overhead, the catwalks rattle as soldiers patrol, and muttered conversations drift through the darkness.
Suddenly, from somwhere overhead, a pair of frag grenades spiral down to land among a clump of troopers. Everyone hits the deck, and the double concussion mixes with screams and the singing of fragments. Suddenly alone among the dead, DC staggers to to his feet, looking around wildly for the source of the attack. He hears the sound of running feet above him one the catwalk, and looks up to see the overhead lights blacked out by a falling form...

***BA-BOOM***

Gunjack Valentine, clad in an H.E.V. suit and carrying a shotgun, straightens up over the mangled body of his tormenter, and ejects the spent shells from his weapon before looking around at the CR*

Oy, that punker has some gall... I lose my internet for five weeks, and as soon as I get it back, he kicks me off every five minutes for an entire night and than lags my deathmatching... *fires another double blast into DC's ruined head*

Anyway, I'm back. Anybody miss me? :D

About five weeks ago, FreePC.net sold out to some other company, and our internet access was cut off... and it took this long to get it back up. Not to mention that for the time being, I'm stuck using AO-Hell... Still, in the meantime, I've managed to get Endgame (my TL14+ GURPS setting) firmed up, my ACT scores back (got a 28, dang it...), and have discovered the wonder that is Halflife... Warps, you REALLY FREAKIN' NEED a faster computer... I have no clue how I survived two years without mine...:P
Anyways, on to a few replies...

Wilek><<*sigh*>> Politicians are like diapers--both must be changed regularly and for the same reason...>> :D And that has to be about the most accurate assessment of politica in general that I've ever heard...:) And by the way... I've been away a long time, so do ya mind filling me in on this Nereus Project thingy? Sounds like fun!

Infinity - Any idea where I could find that Garbage TWINE (now THERE'S an odd acronym...) mp3 you mentioned? I havent't heard the song yet, but I generally like anything they've done...

GB><<If you mean the Reunion Round Robin (R^3), I have a rough copy in my directory.>> Is that the story that someone mentioned earlier, the one that sounded totally incomprehensible, disgusting, and possibly heretical? and if so, could you slide me a copy? :)

Shadowrider - what's this poll thingy? If it's what I think it is, I'll have to put in a vote later...

Gside - LOVED the new mp3... And good imagery, too! :D

Ugh... 13 minutes past my bedtime, and I gotta go back to studying for my next ACT tommorrow... anyway, catch you all later...

-Valentine, Marcher of Cambreadth, and Sacred Searcher for a Rock To Wind a String Around
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Limbo City, Taxes, United states of Hystaria
Thursday, March 9, 2000 01:17:21 AM
IP: spider-wj021.proxy.aol.com

**Mecord jumps in for a brief moment.**

Silverstar>> Not all guys like blonds. I actually prefer dark hair, like jet black. I'm also partial to red, being a red haired man myself (my eyes are a marble green or grey depending on the light).

Jenna and Infinity>> It is painfull. Pain and I are well aquanted and I tend to cope much better than most of my family.

Magic and Language>> English does have many complexities that would make it inconvienent to use as magic. However, I would think that a magical language could be designed in English. I wouldn't think it would be much different than designing a programing language.

Well, have to go read "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" for class tomorrow. Exellent poem by the way, I highly recomend it.

**Mecord leaps back out.**
Mecord
Thursday, March 9, 2000 01:02:19 AM
IP: usr59.mtwest.net

Hey peoples! I'm doing much better now. I too saw my pregnant friend for the first time in about a week. She was doing very good. I'm also creaming in my pants cause I know that the Incubus concert is only in two days, and the 311 concert is in three! SOROW and I was also able to spend some quality time together(which we haven't done in a week) before she left for the weekend to San Antonio. I'm going to miss her so much. Lastly, I would like to congratulate SOROW on an outstanding, beautiful dancing performance. She is going to kick hella booty at the contest!

Doug: thanks for the support. You're a cool guy!
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:30:44 AM
IP: spider-th082.proxy.aol.com

Warpmind> <<could you do a quick background check on him? I just got a rush of concern; if he's been to Z'ha'Dum, he could pose a potential threat to the population on this planet, and more importantly: to the Nereus Project itself...>> That was taken care of with the confiscation of his sanity. He's clean. :) <<By the way, I have a suggestion: Should we make a deal with Castro?>> See GB's response...<<it looks fine to me, save one little detail: the mention of using Xothi assistance in phase three. Are they utterly vital to the plan? If so, could you please try to keep'em out of Scandinavian sector? I personally don't have anything against them, but I'm not a particularly popular person in R'lyeh since I gave Cthulhu dreadlocks...>> Well, the Xothi are only in case we encounter resistance that can't be taken care of by anything less powerful, so they're not utterly vital, or even just plain vital. ;) Besides, the entire reason they're allied with me is because they owe me their lives, so I think they'll leave you alone if I command it. >;)

Scott> <<Another character that I created that somehow made it into the cartoons: A sentient little flame whose name I can't quite remember. Something lame, like Flick, Flamey, or whatever. When he began a fire, he was actually giving birth to "evil cousins." Sound familiar? They did the exact same thing on "Animaniacs." One really odd story I wrote with him was centered on an attempt of his to sell lemonade. I think the reason I never pursued more stories with Chad and the Flame was because I discovered them in other media. I tend to do that. I once developed a little fantasy in which I was a writer and there was a woman who couldn't confess her feelings for me... and then I found that very same scenario on "Melrose Place." (I coulda written for that show!)>> Woah...that's even creepier than something that happened to me: I went through several ficverses, all of them lame, before arriving at my current one (which is the only one I have actually written for)...and one of them took place in sort of a futuristic alternate universe, where there was an equivalent of the Internet that was called the Matrix. And then guess what movie came out last year (that I just got on DVD a few days ago and it's having the exact same glitches as New Nightmare...<downloads a few kung fu programs and goes Agent-style postal on Mr. Disconnect>)...

Cyborg> <> Anyone in the CR can--simply help further our goals of world domination. 8)

Niamhgold> <<that hampster dance song from the AOL commercials>> I think Hamsterdance also made it into an Earthlink (?) commercial. :) Heh...I'm glad of that; now more people can be warned of its evil...<<Anyone else have a fave music pick from Gargs?>> If the TGS themes don't count, probably the TGC theme. (The regular series' music was very well-done, but for some reason I could never get into the whole medieval thing. <shrug>)

Robby> <<Although after seeing the Daily Show there's one scene I can never see in the same light again...>> Do tell? :)

Infinity> <<Can I be officially admitted into the Nereus Project?>> See my response to Cyborg. :) <<I've tried downloading MP3's from Lycos and MP3 box but I keep getting this message that says server has returned extended information. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?>> I doubt it's anything you're doing; probably there's a lot of server traffic. It'll clear up at some point. :) <> Ohhhh, how I love that song. It's a very good theme for world conquering megalomaniacal psychopaths with delusions of godhood. ;P

Gside> <<Not completely, but then I don't think you can totally convince me that you don't. I was mostly saying so for comedic effect.>> Me too, mostly, although it's true as far as it goes. ;) <<Try Orff's Carmina Burana, most of it is Latin except for the ancient German.>> I have it, actually, and for some reason I can't remember much of it for long because I'm dumb. ;P

SOROW> <> Fare thee well, friend! ^_^

Doug> <> Um...<evil lightbulb> Not yet. <maniacal laughter> Thanks for the idea...hehe...

Jason Barnett> Dream> Hm...cool fic idea. :)

Pistoff> <<And I'd probably get a new set of eyes--something funky-looking. Maybe black ones like Jack Hammer's...or a pair of smiley faces...or something freaky...>> Seen Last Action Hero? One of the villains used a glass eye, and he had a lot of them--in addition to the usual normal variety, he had smiley faces, eight balls, crosshairs, and other freakishnesses that I can't remember right at the moment. :) <<Personally, I think the entire company needs to be purged of all the top suits and decision makers.>> That's one of the FIRST things I'll be doing when I'm in control...hehehe <> With me it didn't even take that much; for some reason, I've always had something against Tarzan...I think it's the whole back-to-nature thing; I am a hard-line technocrat...<> Politicians are like diapers--both must be changed regularly and for the same reason...
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:14:26 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

silverstar ::Looks> Okay I am confused about one thing. If blonds aren't always that good looking (no offense to blonds out there because my bf is a blond) then why do guys go for them? Well at least the guys at my school anyway. I always see them going around after blond hair, blue eyed, *skinny* girls. I am a red haired, green eyed, medium build girl and my friends say that I am pretty. Okay I feel stupid for saying that now but still, are all guys like that or is my case special?

Everyone goes for something different... blue eyes creep me out sometimes (if the pupils are really big for intance... yucky) but I like blond hair... it's so different looking when you're a brunnette. As for you case... a red head beats a blond everytime. Sorta like a straight beats a pair..

yup.

As fo cartoon crushes... Lets see...

Irvine Kinneas from FF8
Xelloss Metallium from Slayers Next and Try
Terry "Yummy" Bogard from Fatal Fury
Power from Fatal Furt the Motion Picture (the bad guy with the gold mask and the Australian accent... YUM)
Kaoru Nagisa from Neon Genisis Evangelion

basically.. if he's anime...

Mara
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:10:23 AM
IP: spider-wa074.proxy.aol.com

Pistoff; No offense taken! And I agree about how the media portrays thin women as more sexy. A friend of mine is doing a research paper on eating disorders. Seems the number of anorexic and bulimic people have gone up for that very reason.

Guide; I've tried downloading MP3's from Lycos and MP3 box but I keep getting this message that says server has returned extended information. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I did manage to snag The World's Not Enough from Garbage though. Haven't seen the movie but the song's pretty good.
<takes a sip of bloodwine for John Colicos>

Night everybody!
Infinity
Thursday, March 9, 2000 12:04:59 AM
IP: nltc-57-85.nltc.net

**kicks aside an empty paczi box** Congrats on breakin' yer own record, Robby. :)

Christine: ooh, creamsicles ... **drools and moans like Homer**

SJ, re: Phantom: Actually, folks have known that for a while about Antonio Banderas ... at least those in Andrew Lloyd Webber circles. See, the story goes that at a fancy Hollywood party that both Banderas and Sir Andrew attended, Banderas paid the piano player ... I think it was $500 ... to accompany him in some selections from Phantom. Thus how Antonio was **ahem** HAND-PICKED by Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber to play the Phantom.
And y'know, that really kinda bummed me out. True, Banderas *does* have a great voice, and is well capable of performing the part. However, I always kinda pictured a film Phantom being portrayed by (don't laugh) Meat Loaf. The reason being that he has a similar voice to the original Broadway Phantom, Michael Crawford.

Jessie Feff, re: "Heavenly Creatures": Great flick!

**takes a moment to wave to XenaTrek, who's still recovering from a nasty computer virus** Keep cool! :)

Gathering bids: Hmm ... let's weigh my options ... Los Angeles, which would probably clean me out just in airfare and where folks there don't generally tend to be my kind of people ... Dirigo/Portland, which has one of my closest friends on the organizing committe and I can probably drive to (and in fact already told Cyrway I would if they got it) ... I think I'm gonna stick myself firmly in the Dirigo camp. :)

Jason Barnett: Hmm ... interesting ... write a fic about it, that'll exorcise it from yer system. :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:52:23 PM
IP: zzz-209252248236.splitrock.net

Well, I'm actually posting twice in one week. Amazing...

First, thanks for the welcome back, everyone who did so. :) I'll do my best to be here more often.

Now, there's something I need to get out of my system. I've completely lost track of the Joyride continuity, so this'll be pretty much off-kilter, but I guess it can always be fixed later. This is dedicated to a dear friend of mine, who's been putting up with too much crap from a flakey little twit who, shall we say, needs an attitude correction. Thus...

**JOYRIDE TIME!!!!!!!!**

"Stop the car!" Pistoff bellows. Jack hits the brakes and the monster hearse screeches to a halt.

"What? What the hell's the matter?"

"Look who's here." Pissy points at a bimbo-chick standing by the side of the road, holding her thumb up. "She's been talking $h!t about a good friend of mine in a chat room, and now it's time for her to PAY!"

"Who is she?" Wilek says, nervous about whatever atrocity he's about to witness.

"Her name doesn't matter. But her initials are N.A."

"Ah. As in 'not applicable'?"

"Very soon, yes."

"I've heard of her." Jack shakes his head. "She thinks she and this guy are an item, except he hates her, and she keeps attacking one of his friends."

"Who happens to be one of my friends." Pistoff glares at the bimbo. "Pathetic. I wouldn't touch her with a ten-foot sex toy."

"Total waste of ammo," Jack agrees. Then he grins. "But then, we won't need bullets for this one." He gets out of the car and grabs the chick, then points. "There's an ant hill over there. How convenient." He holds her while Pis strips the chick's clothes off, then carries her over to the ant hill. Jack holds a hand out. "Hammer and nails, please."

Warpmind grins and hands him the requested items. After a few seconds of pounding and lots of screaming from N.A., he has her nailed to the ground over the ant hill. Jack holds his hand out again. "Honey, please."

Warp gives him a huge jar of honey, which he pours over N.A.'s body. The ants come out seconds later, swarming all over her. Jack smiles.

"Bon appetit, little bubbas." The Joyriders stand and watch, until the bimbo's flesh has been stripped from her bones, then they return to Cthulhu, satisfied with another job well done.

**JOYRIDE SEGMENT OVER**

Ah...that was cathartic. :)

Now, on to replies, and stuff...

SOROW: Ack! I'm sorry about your accident. Glad you're better now, though. Should still get some x-rays done, just in case...

Warpmind: Sorry about the Joyride misunderstanding. Guess I was feeling meaner than usual. ;) <<Imagine, a clan full of either vengeful Demona-type females, or the unerringly cheerful Angela-type.>> Ye gods...though I think the latter would be worse than the former. I used to have a crush on Angela until her always-in-a-good-mood personality started to grate on my nerves. With a clan of vengeful Demona types, we could at least blow them away and have a decent excuse (assuming they're not all immortal as Demona is...). But with the latter...they're like stupid customers--not dangerous enough to warrant retroactive abortion, but so annoying that you wish you could get away with it... ;)

Shadowrider: <<Wanna keep your own face or you want Arnold's one? ;)>> I'd keep my own face. With a few modifications...I'd fix my droopy eyelid and the two lower-rear teeth that partially broke off a few years ago. ;) And I'd probably get a new set of eyes--something funky-looking. Maybe black ones like Jack Hammer's...or a pair of smiley faces...or something freaky... *shrugs* ;P

Jewel: Those idiot phone-calls you mentioned...I know it probably shouldn't surprise me, but it does. Seems like people could realize that if they call tech support, that's who's picking up the phone, no matter what the voice sounds like. *rolls eyes* These idiots...bunch of knuckle-dragging apes. But at least they believe you're a real person. Know what I get a lot when I answer the phones at Pizza Hut? "Uh...is this a recording?" Or, "Oh, I thought you were an answering machine." Or some other variation. Friggin' people...fell out of a stupid tree and hit every branch.

Revel: Yep, I have a tape of "No Cure for Cancer" and a CD of "Lock n' Load." I'm a big fan of his, especially after he mentioned, in an interview, that he almost ran over Susan Powter with his truck. "I almost stopped the insanity _permanently._" :D

Mercord: Sorry about your dog. I've lost pets before...many times...they become part of the family, and when this happens... *sigh* My most sincere condolences.

Robby: Your rant on Disney--I agree completely. Personally, I think the entire company needs to be purged of all the top suits and decision makers. First they screwed up Gargoyles, then began doing one crappy movie after another...I mean, just seeing the trailer for Tarzan, seeing him "surfing" on tree branches...that was more than enough to turn me off completely. And then what they did to Clerks...honestly, as soon as Jannie mentioned to me that Clerks the cartoon would be run on ABC (the "other" Disney Channel), that was when I knew the show wouldn't have a chance in hell. I mean, the same network that unleashed the snot-nosed scourge of the Olsen Twins...gaaaaaack!!! *shudders*

Infinity: Hmm...you're right, I worded my comments about thin people improperly. I don't think thin people are boring...I just meant that I have trouble being attracted to women who have bodies that look like No. 2 pencils. ;) And like the chick I mentioned in the last post, whose ribs I could see--it wasn't just the outline of a few ribs...I could see the entire ribcage. Her skin looked like shrink-wrap stretched over her skeleton. O_O I just like 'em a little more solid. ;) And the idea that the media keeps pushing this image on the public, through TV, movies, magazines, and people like Richard Simmons and Susan Powter, convincing us that the only way we'll be accepted is if we're skinny...that whole thing just urks me, I guess. Still, I meant no offense to thin people. :)

Jenna: Great comments about Demona and Brooklyn. Couldn't have said it better myself. Oh, and I finally managed to send you an email. My computer had some kind of brainfart and it lost your new addy, so I sent it to the hotmail one. Let me know if it didn't arrive.... :)

SJ: Yeah, Henry Rollins would be a great choice for president. He'd be so much fun...if I decide to vote in this election, I'll write his name in. ;) And I agree about the politics stuff--it's just the same old stuff getting shuffled around every four years. *sigh*

Green Baron: G. Gordon Liddy, eh? I saw him on Politically Incorrect once, and I found myself agreeing with a lot of what he said, and also liking him quite a bit. Which has me worried. I'm not really a Democrat, but I'm not a Republican by ANY stretch of the imagination. I guess I could be called a liberal. But more than anything else...this guy was involved in the Nixon mess. NIXON!!! *gag* Still...I'd vote for Jello Biafra or Henry Rollins (if he decided to run, at least...)...but Liddy's an interesting guy... Sorry you weren't able to get that job. I've never heard of that test, but it seems they're always coming up with new ways to keep qualified people from getting the job. I hope your luck changes soon....

Doug: Sorry the info came too late. But those websites have tons of useful programs, many of which I'm using now. :) I'm still catching up with things here, but I'll send some feedback as soon as I can.... Oh, and...me, on the Supreme Court? Hmmmmmm....the first judge in history to wear a trenchcoat in the courtroom instead of the robe... *evil grin*

Tim P: <<I'd be happy to lend ya the money if I had any. But one condition: I'd have to be a director and co-screenwriter.>> Sounds good to me. I'm familiar with the screenplay format, but haven't really used it much. *g*

And finally, a moment of silence for John Colicos.

Okay...I guess I'd better post this. I have a friend eagerly awaiting the Joyride. I'll keep trying to catch up on the rest later....
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:50:49 PM
IP: cb2-68.transport.com

The other night I had this really weird dream involving Gargoyles. I'm looking through Primestar's TV guide and see Gargoyles at the normal time but it's got a subtitle that's unfamiliar so I assume it's a new show.

And it is. A totally weird one at that. Apparently Elisa had one of those she can be a gargoyle when she wants to be human when she wants to be and she and Goliath got caught in a variation of the stone sleep spell. For some reason she was wearing a blue dress when she's a gargoyle and the normal outfit when human. When they wake up from the spell they meet two new gargoyles, there were others I just can't remember them. One looks like Brooklyn except shorter horns, smaller beak and no slouch, dresses like a biker and has a greyish color. His skin is a greyish color that matched his leather jacket pretty close. The other is similar to Broadway except he's not really fat. He's klarge but it speaks more of being barrel-chested and big boned. The other thing I remember was Elisa as a human confronting and roughing up a bit a Tony Dracon look-a-like.
Jason Barnett - [barnett@shentel.net]
Lebanon Church, VA, USA
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:47:32 PM
IP: ha18s126.d.shentel.net

<Doug appears dressed in gray, sitting in a wheelchair, and patting Mist, who for some reason sports a diamond collar.> Moment of silence for Charles Gray, everyone. I for one will greatly miss the guy who could play Bond's nemesis better than anyone else (including and especially Mike Myers). :)

Wilek: I too am interested in the Nereus Project. I assume you have it on a website somewhere, mind posting a link?

Green Baron: $ <Tom Hayden was killed> I thought he was just shot. Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for the reminder. $ And you're welcome on the flattery. :)

SOROW: Kit and I love and will miss you too. Have fun in San Antonio, and good luck!

More later, must get back to Elysium.
Doug
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:47:24 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-230.dlls.grid.net

Hello everyone. I'm dropping in to say that this weekend is my drill team's competition down in San Antonio and I won't be able to get in here until Monday morning. I'll miss you all very, very much! Until then, stay insane! I love you!

Doug> Thank you so much for your prayers toward me and my/Joe's friend. I saw her for the first time in about a week today, she came to my drill team showoffs. I almost cried! Thank you for your thoughts. They are greatly appreciated.

Wilek & Zath> I *guess* the random ninja guys are supposed to be Xanatos' men, but their uniforms are all crapped up. I just think they're funny!

Jaden> Tired?! I slept all day at school today, or at least I tried! But then again, I'm always tired.
SOROW
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:38:52 PM
IP: dll2a010-0100.splitrock.net

Just looked at the L.A. bid courtesy of Patrick Toman. Noting La Brea Tar Pits on the attractions list, I found myself suddenly wondering - in the Gargoyles Universe, could any gargoyles have become casualties of those same tar pits, alongside mastodons, saber-toothed tigers, and other Pleistocene mammals?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:19:51 PM
IP: 216.87.46.50.dialup-stl.primary.net

Sev. Jr.> <<PLEASE, take that as joke>>: I don't know, I kind of like English. It has amazing capabilities for expamsion.

Wilek> <<What, you think I'm the stereotypical horndog male idiot who drools over *those*?>>: Not completely, but then I don't think you can totally convince me that you don't. I was mostly saying so for comedic effect.
<<Am I the only male of any species on the face of the earth who thinks naked people are ugly>>: Generally, yeah.
<<Too bad pretty much every Latin word I know is from Gargoyles, The Omen, or the last boss in Final Fantasy VII>>: Try Orff's Carmina Burana, most of it is Latin except for the ancient German. (O Fortuna/Velut Luna/Statu variabilis; and I did that without looking it up (well, to double check it...)).

Scott, TDCoE> <<Something lame, like Flick, Flamey, or whatever>>: A white dragon? Where? It would be nice to have a ride over to ARC.

Anne> <<Um, I *really* hope we're not thinking of the same La Blue Girl here...>>: By the way you are saying that, I assume that we are.
<>: If you mean the Reunion Round Robin (R^3), I have a rough copy in my directory.

Calíope> <<"guys are like parking spaces">>: I still insist that you have it backwards. As a founding member of the Reserved Parking Club, I should know.

Shadowrider> <<Aerospace Engineering>>: Ahh, a MechE. Aerospace is a subdivision of Mechanical here, and two of my roomies are MechEs. So, are you going to be a rocket scientist, or just work in turbines? (Idiomatic note: rocket scientist is the cannonical American way of denoting someone as amazingly smart, as in "Let's face it, we're just not rocket scientists") (Note #2: My previous note probably made my post exonentially more confusing)

Niamhgold> <<hampster dance song from the AOL commercials>>: It started before AOL found it (for other internet applications of other small rodents, see www.joecartoon.com). But it is addictive, isn't it?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:08:45 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Mecord- sorry to hear about the loss of the family member- I still remeber when I lost one of my dogs, Keri- If it helps remeber, the pain lessens after time, but the memories and love doesn't.

Robby-- Now, don't tease us like that!!!!!@ (regarding Thailog comment) Not fair!! Not Fair!!!! --
And speaking of which are we ever going to get a picture of the ebony one in here??
jenna
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 10:07:07 PM
IP: 1cust2.tnt3.hou3.da.uu.net

Mecord; Heartfelt condolences go out to you, my friend. Our family dog died right around this time last year. He was a good ole' spaniel that we had for 13 yrs. I still dream about him from time to time. I hope you and your family get through this okay. Like others in here have said, the hurt does eventually go away. (or at least diminish)

Cartoon crushes; I had a crush on (gasp!) Hades from Disney's Hercules plus many others that I'm to embarrassed to name.

Wilek and Tim P: Thanks for the feedback. And Cyborg's post below has given me the guts to ask; Can I be officially admitted into the Nereus Project? To quote (or misquote) Homer Simpson." You're doing some sinister, ungodly, evil stuff and I want in! "

Adios everyone!
Infinity
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 09:29:05 PM
IP: nltc-57-94.nltc.net

Scott, the diet coke of evil- Indeed, Ninjara was a fox... In more ways than one... (Why she had a racoon tail I never figured out...) As to why they wrote her out? Simple. The comic was coming to an end and they knew it. They wanted to do something groundbreaking that would have an impact on the character's lives, and they did. (And then the comic only lasted two more half issues. They didn't even get a chance to do the Forever War, which they'd been building up to slowly for years...)

On the upside, it allowed Chris Allan to move her off into her own series in Furlough, which near as I know hasn't gotten to the fourth chapter yet after two years...

The fandom reuinion horid round robin- Don't look at me, it wasn't my job to record it!

Thailog being alive in TGS- *cackles about his behind the scenes info*

Disney's Robin Hood- One of Disney's best films ever, right up there with Fantasia and everything done between Fox and the Hound through Lion King. Robin Hood had great characters, great setting, great music, and had it been done in the 90's it would have become an animated series no doubt... (Although after seeing the Daily Show there's one scene I can never see in the same light again...)
Robby
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 09:08:48 PM
IP: spider-wj071.proxy.aol.com

**Niamhgold comes in humming that hampster dance song from the AOL commercials, then sees everyone staring at her**

Uh...oops! Hi! Got some replies to make, I see (unfortunately, my brain's been runnin' on empty since I got outta work ;)

Green Baron: I'm 18, yes, a youngin', and I really should've had these tonsils out when I was a kid. I guess my pediatrician hadn't seen them as a potential problem; maybe I should get a second opinion?

Shadowrider: Of course I'm interested! And, you shouldn't give me any credit at all (although you put me in a better mood by being so nice! :)) Mysterious stranger in a black battlesuit...hmmm...I know you said the name would be easy, but my brain is running on empty. Maybe "Night," or "Onyx," or something to do with black/darkness? And either post or E-mail me when you get the fic done. I'd love to read it, 'cause I'm sure it's great! Also...Aerospace Engineering--my brother's interested in that. Very good field!

Christine: Popsicles...**makes the Homer Simpson drooling sound** Heck, getting my tonsils removed is going to look like clipping toenails compared to wisdom-tooth removal! Codeine. And lots of Extra Strength Tylenol, like Fox mentioned back in "Kittens" :} And I hadn't thought about "MacBeth's theme." That brings up a bunch of theme music I hadn't considered before, like Puck's airy tune.

Anyone else have a fave music pick from Gargs?

Gside: Yeah, I figure that most of humanity would've evolved on Africa, as well. I don't know; maybe it all had something to do with the equator? Of course, the equator today may not be the equator of yesterday...

Jaden: About tonsillitis, I've never been diagnosed with that, but that may be because I'm a stubborn kid and I hardly ever go to the doctor. But I _do_ get very nasty headcolds (while my friends are prancing around the day after they're sick, it takes me a good week just to get rid of the symptoms). I guess you can consider yourself lucky!

Zath: On the whole pixels and polygons thing with my best friend; yes, it's somewhat frustrating, but, of course, he's my closest friend, and I can take it! It's his _girlfriend_ who should be worried! (And she comes to me about it all the time! :)

Robby: Ah, thanks for clearing that up! It would figure that the 1998 Muppets would be cancelled due to bad timeslots. Disney didn't give them the placement they deserved...an all-too-familiar story...:}

Jewel: Mandarine Chinese and Hebrew--I'd almost forgoten about Hebrew! I'm not sure, though, but didn't Hebrew evolve from Egyptian? It's just a guess. Anyway, you take Chinese? Awesome!

I think I'll stick with Fang again...

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 08:27:22 PM
IP: ncia110n.ncia.net

Madonna in a movie adaptation of "Phantom"? :: shudders :: I'm still having trouble taking her seriously as an actress ... and why did she have to go and do a sucky hip-hop/pop type version of Don McLean's "American Pie" for her new movie? It's as bad as the "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina - Dance Mix" from her last movie. She should pick a career... is she a mediocre wannabe actress, or a mediocre has-been pop singer. :P

:: puts up a link ::

Click on my name to check out our bid to host G2001 in Los Angeles, California - the City of Angels.
Patrick Toman - [G2001LA@aol.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 08:27:18 PM
IP: abd73196.ipt.aol.com

Aaron> Real bad news...No need to celebrate Charles Gray's birthday this year, he's dead...check the name link.

You know, I've really got to quit delivering all these obituaries...
Skippy The Death Watch Klingon
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 07:47:13 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-24.ultravision.net

Oops. I meant to post in purple, with it being Ash Wednesday and all :)
Green Baron
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 07:06:13 PM
IP: 141.164.241.8

RP WARNING!!!!
**In the shadows, two more figures appear, and they are the last of the Hollywood Ten: Bill Clinton and Larry Flynt. David Geffen grabs Attila and makes some threats, "All right...now let me go or the cat gets it. In fact, I'll split the 300 million dollar bounty on his head if you let me turn him in."
"Meow!!! Say, aren't you the real killer?"
"Huh? What...", OJ turns his head at the mention of a real killer.
"Yes. Ron Goldman was your boyfirend and you killed him in a jealous rage over thinking he was with Nicole Brown. Then you framed OJ."
David Geffen looks about nervously as he sees OJ charging with his knife. He then makes the mistake of firing a round of ammo into OJ's heart, which only stops him for five seconds, and then he drops Attila and runs, but OJ catches him and plunges the knife into Geffen's heart. Next, he cuts off Geffen's head, and relieves himslef on Geffen's headless body.
"I have done it. I killed the real killer!! My quest is ended."
Ave Maria interrupts, "But now you have to face up to killing Geffen."
OJ's triumphant smiles droops, "Well, then I shall be off to find David Geffen's real killer."**
PAUSE RP!!!

Wilek> Me, Pope? I'm not worthy of such an honor. I would like him to make me Holy Roman Emperor, though :)

Jenna> Thanks for the kind words. Hoepfully, I'll get soemthing soon, even though I have G2K covered, though I'm skipping the meal portion.

Doug>
<>
Kick ass!!! I'd be the first Catholic Chief Justice since Roger Taney, and I would do a much better job than he did. Your picks should make an even more diverse mosiac than the Warren Court. I am truly honored :)
$David Horowitz killed Tom hayden a while back in the RP!! The A-Team is in the Los Angeles underground, so they may be able to help, though they don't kill people.$

Jaden> I hope you're not too upset about Prop. 22. It may wind up in the SC in teh next few years, and hopefully, it will be declared unconsitutional, though I imagine it may be ruled too ripe for review.

Aaron> I would say Vatican II, but Shadowrider has shown taht's not the case. Such a rule is probably unefnorced and it may be overturned. ArchBishops are also gievn more autonomy over rules such as that.

Shadowrider> Unlike you, I happen to like the Holy Father, as do many people my age with strong Marian devotions. Besides, I don't know what you would do to him if he was in your domain.

Ian Paisley is a Proetstant Minsiter from Northern Ireland (an Irish equivalent to Bob Jones or Fred Phelps) who is extremely anti-Catholic and a former head of the Ulster Unionist Party (truly worthy of being called the Evil Party). He was also a very good friend of Bob Jones, Jr. He has a website http://www.ianpaisley.org that espouses all sorts of Rome-bashing and other nonsense. Also, he is very much a legacy to the unholy trinity of Calvin, Cromwell, and Knox.

Niamhgold> I had mine removed at four, thankfully. How old are you, now? I guess I'm lucky they were removed when I was so young.

Latin> I took it for three years and I wish I had taken it much longer, and back in grade school. I also love the way the language is used in prayer. Much better and more eloquent than boring old English prayers.

Mecord> I lost George a few years back, and that dog sounded like a good ol' boy who knew how to treat cats right.

Questioner> Wasn't Sanskrit the earliest written language?

Fae> I beleive the fey just used rhyming verse for their magic.

Jewel> SGB? What does the S stand for? I would have sided with Hardwick, but thrown in a concurrence (with me, it would be 5-4 reversing the Georgian law) that being gay and having the last name of Hardwick is punishment enough :)

SJ> $You asked about Slick Willie. He will soon join his wife and Shadow Brides$

Tim P.> Well, there are other candidates to support. Gore v Bush will be boring, but Bush could get the upper hand by making Robert Rubin his running mate. That announcement would probably create DOW 15,000.

Warpmind> <<Should we make a deal with Castro? Let him keep Cuba, and give him some better trade agreements that he has these days? I for one wouldn't mind (unless you have plans for Cuba, that is), and I'd really like an import deal on those Havanas... >>
NO!!!!! Make a deal with that murderer???? It's a small, poor island. We capture Castro and all the Communists who survive and bring them to trial in Miami. Then, Miami annexes Cuba and we can make a trade treaty eliminating cigar tarrifs (which President Clinton would like). That way, you can have your cigars and Cuba would be a free nation.

Gyre> Unionized Unseelie?? And I thought the AFL-CIO was bad :) On the other hand, teh Illuminati would get upset, since they have been Organized Crime's silent partner and that probably included Unions.

Resume RP!!!
The Catholic schoolgirl scouts aim their rosaries at Bill Clinton's privates and fire them on Schwartz mode. After about ten minutes of being in pain, blue light starts pouring out of his body, until he explodes in a flash of blue light. Attila's only response: May the Schwartz be with you!!!"

Green Baron and Tuxedo Charleton Heston decide to take on Larry Flynt. Heston fires a few rounds from his rifle into Flynt, paralyzing him up to his neck and knocking him off his wheelchair. Now that Flynt is down and dying, GB runs a fork through both his eyes.
"That's for what you did to Bob Livingston!!"
Then he pushes him on his back and Tuxedo Heston jabs his rifle into Flynt's head and fires, putting an end to Larry Flynt.**
TO BE CONTINUED!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 06:49:28 PM
IP: 141.164.77.196

Antonio doing Phantom>I can see it, I saw him do the Opening theme from Phantom on a PBS special for Andrew Llyod Webber's music. He didn't do that bad. Personally, I'd have gone with Micheal Crawford, the guy that originated the role on Broadway.
My only concern is who plays the female lead. While Madonna may be a better actress than she was, and a teriffic singer in her own right, she just doesn't have the pipes to do the Operatic style music called for in the show. Best bet would be to go with Sarah Brightman, she was the other half of the duet on that PBS special, and has done the role on Broadway...

Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 06:43:33 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-24.ultravision.net

*Hello All*

Just got back from the dentist and my gums are killing me. The dentist is nice but, she shoved a piece of metal up and around my tooth and it HURT!

Anyway enough of that.

Mecord> Sorry to hear about your dog! I hope that you aren't depressed or at least not too sad.

Katara> I thought that the Biker Mice From Mars were HOT! Even if they are giant mice they are good looking! (Blushes)

Brooklyn & Demona> I thought Jenna put it quite nicely. Demona does have complexity (sp) and Brooklyn has more going for him than his "bad boy" charm, although that is what attracted me to him first. He is intellegent and takes everything in life and goes for more.

Looks> Okay I am confused about one thing. If blonds aren't always that good looking (no offense to blonds out there because my bf is a blond) then why do guys go for them? Well at least the guys at my school anyway. I always see them going around after blond hair, blue eyed, *skinny* girls. I am a red haired, green eyed, medium build girl and my friends say that I am pretty. Okay I feel stupid for saying that now but still, are all guys like that or is my case special?

Well, gotta go. Bye!
silverstar
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 05:48:03 PM
IP: l2p28.dav.mother.com

Here's one. The Employee's Handbook given to all new hires at Maddox Technologies. It has but one page with
"OBEY WITHOUT QUESTION!",
written on it.

Now imagine in the wake of the Second Unseelie War the low ranking Unseelie still at large decide to Unionize. Think of Garlon's reaction to the news that a Teamster Organizer has been making the rounds of what's left of Maddox Technologies.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 05:02:47 PM
IP: fltg-ppp32.fltg.net

**Mecord bursts through the wall*

It worked!! Had trouble posting yesterday. Had to ask Cherry to post for me. It's good to have friends. Speaking of friends, thanks for all your emotional support. Loosing a friend (even if he is an old toothless dog) is painful.
Spring break is next week for me. I intend to spend a good portion of my time finishing a Gargoyle fanfic I've been working on. Watch for the shameless plugs, I'll let you all know when it's finnished.

Jeremy>> $To join the RP you just read the guidlines then add your intro. story with your next post. The general rules are, no RP only posts, and place warnings around it.$

Mecord
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 04:03:43 PM
IP: usr41.mtwest.net

heloo

eduardo - [naked ass]
ny, ny, manhantan
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 03:28:34 PM
IP: 149.123.87.99

Mec> I'm sorry about your dog.

Zath> Welcome back. And your probably tired of this by now, but gargs can give people the finger. Just ask the Outklaws. (Chibi-Smith and Wesson obligingly shoot him the bird) See?

Warpmind> Well, I imagine Age of Wonders would run on that computer about like I run IRL: Not very far, not very fast. Elfquest elves. Nah, gimme a Poison Elves elf any day. Mmmmm, Cleah.

Click my name to check out Team Dirigo's bid to host G2001 in Portland Maine. Show 'em your support.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 02:35:27 PM
IP: ppp-226.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

<Shadowrider enters>

Poll:> thanks to Zath for voting. I admit I'm in a little crisis: you want to be a mutate who wears a battlesuit, so where am I supposed to put your vote? After a hour of mind-torture I decided to...add a vote both to battlesuits and mutates. If you don't like it please tell me and I'll change.:)
Anyway, here's the situation:

14 Gargoyles
11 Battlesuits
7 Mutates
4 Cyborgs

Gside:> I'm studying Aerospace Engineering, with specializations in Aerodynamics and in Propulsion Systems, at Politecnico di Milano. I hope to take my degree in a couple of years.About Dune...well, the mentat's name is Thufir Hawat and he is quite a cool character (not as Gurney, but...)

Zath:> "Twisted Kitty"??? :C ...Well, I'm supposed to be used to it, but I always go nuts as I hear of such things. Anyway, you're lucky you don't live in Italy:italian TV (and movies, not books,luckily) translators have a special talent in twisting words' meaning, changing character's names (for example, in Italy Clint Eastwood's insp. Callahan is known as Callaghan, for unknown reasons), or eventually mistaking meanings (Negative sentences becoming affirmative or so...)
About Dune, well, you're not totally wrong...:)

Niamhgold:><<...The one you described sounds amazingly intricate and comic book-esque. You should sketch that
idea!...>> I know, you posted it a lot of time ago. At that time I answered that I had tried, but with no results. Well, after that, I resumed my old drafts and...I decided to retry! Maybe you are not interested to it at all,but I wanted to tell it to you because you inspired me to do it and I thank you-that uncomplete work harassed me too long!. BTW, you inspired another thing to me...in fact, I've began to write a Gargoyle fan-fiction...introducing a misterious character who wears a black battlesuit. No one knows his true name,but someone calls him...(Guess it,it's easy ;))

Well, I gotta go, I'll back later.

Ciao a tutti!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 01:22:58 PM
IP: h213-20-67.mi2.albacom.net

Greetings all!

Mecord: I'm so sorry about your spaniel. I know how pets get comphy in your heart. *goes over to give Mec a hug, glances down at her hardwear and thinks better of it.*

Wilek (and all others involved in the Nereus Project): I know I'm rater new to this and all, but can I help?

You know... I could of sworn I had more to say than this. *exits CR for her 3000 mile check- up.*
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:39:14 PM
IP: 198.168.49.221

Heloooo! :P

Sevarious Jr.> Antoinio Banderas "butchers the English language"....Well! Thats just plain rude! Thats like me saying ¡Ay que comico el ridiculo asento de ese gringo cuando intenta hablar español! :P I mean really. Slyvester Stalone cant talk in compleate sentances and he's from the US, not Spain! So common, cut the guy some slack, hes a pretty good actor and thats what is supposed to count, right?

Warpmind > LOL riiight, I forgot we disused that "guys are like parking spaces" theory at the Gargoyles coment room! Lets not get into that again! I have not doubt your a decent guy, but as of right now, you are not available to me, hence forth, you are not an availabe deacent guy, are you?! :P

Ak! I'm late! My how time flys!!! Bye everyone!!! *HUGZ*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:04:13 PM
IP: 136.145.83.183

Sobotka: actually, JimHenson company was bought by a German firm which has a 'hands-off' policy - translation: they let the companies they buy do what they want to, and they supply the $$$.

{a similar discussion made its way through the ranks of Farscape fans - which I am one of}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 11:35:46 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Sorry bout the typos, also that was supposed to be Evil Dead 1 & 2 and not Evil Dead 1 & 3... Oi...
Anne
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 11:31:46 AM
IP: 204-246-241-141.nas2.apv.gblx.net

*Chibi-Claw drags in a full chainsaw wielding chibi-Ash, Anne following and looking rather pleasant*

Hi all! >:)

Evil Dead 1 & 3, Army of Darkness> Alas, I have not seen the first one. But I have the second and third movies of the trilogy--and Evil Dead2 so freaked me out when I was a kid, the whole worm-woman with gauged eyes shrieking, "I'll swallow your soul!"! My sister saw that part of the movie and she nearly had a heart attack... But Army of Darkness was the best one, IMO. My whole family loves that one (Lindsey, she practically dies for Bruce Campbell when he's tilting Shellia's head back, and seconds from now they're about to kiss, and he says, "Hail to the King, baby.") *giggles* I'm not much better then my sister about that either... *nervously glances at chibi-Ash as he eyes the local CR surroundings* Um, I don't think I can keep this particular chibi with me. Claw's enough to handle, and that chainsaw looks rather dangerous..... He's anybody's, first grabs. <Thoughts: imagine all the DC deaths you could do with this litta guy!> . A little warning though, I think he's a little wary about winged deadites and they're certainly a few winged chibis about (he took one look at Claw and almost brought out the shotgun). *_really_ nervous laugh*

Crushes> Hehe, my first crush was probably each turtle of TMNT (I don't remember which one I saw first, but I loved all of their personalities). I also found the mysterious Casey Jones very nice. Definitely the charming Robin Hood was next, then dashing Prince Eric... basically most of the heroes of the Disney movies *LOL*... I still love Gambit... oooooh, I loved Justin the mouse!! Don't *even* get me going on the guys in Gargoyles--practically ALL of them are too gooood to be true! Goliath--sinewy and thoughtful. Brooklyn--hot(!!) and sensitive. Lexington--so thoughtful and smart! Xanatos--swift and cunning. Matt--something about his red hair and innocence is just very appealing. For comics--all time #1 is definitely Hicks/Wilks (gee, what a surprise, :p ) in the Aliens three-part series (Book 1, Book 2, Earth War). I mean, one side of his face was acid-burnt, but otherwise his looks were hot and I loved the way the author made his character be so right and appealing. :D

Gside> Um, I *really* hope we're not thinking of the same La Blue Girl here...

Jaden> I'm already reading Anne Rice's 3rd book!! ^_^

Pissy, Zath, Yggdrasil> Welcome back! :)

Sorow> Thank goodness you're alright (except for the dent on the head :p )! We would be very partial, since my Dad's been having these strange pounding headaches too, and he _does_ have to go into a chriopractor (sp?) to get massages and take pills and he even went to get x-rays once. But lately he's been dandy. ;)

Mecord> <<spaniel>> I'm very sorry about your loss *hugs*. We once had a malamute (that had some wolf in her too) and she lived for fifteen years, she was a good friend to the family, so very loyal and mischevious but also fun. When she had to go, the family was depressed for days, it wasn't a good time...we still miss her. I hope things light for the best sometime soon, my prayers are with you...

Mara> Are you still out there? Who are your crushes, hmmmm?

Robby> I agree Zath, I wanna read that little story you guys made!! :)

*Moves to a comfy chair and sits down as Claw uneasily watches Ash cleaning his chainsaw* Nope, definitely not keeping Ash, even as cute as he is and all... :p
Anne
MN, USA
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 11:29:47 AM
IP: 204-246-241-141.nas2.apv.gblx.net

*Warpmind sneaks in, all alone.*
Sssh, the chibis are sleeping like babies right now! Don't wanna wake'em. Ever seen a chibi rudely awakened? Not a pleasant sight. ;)

Wilek: I just looked over the Nereus Project again. Now it looks fine to me, save one little detail: the mention of using Xothi assistance in phase three. Are they utterly vital to the plan? If so, could you please try to keep'em out of Scandinavian sector? I personally don't have anything against them, but I'm not a particularly popular person in R'lyeh since I gave Cthulhu dreadlocks...

Scott: Dude, and you complain? Seriously, though, I know the precise problem you describe; you come up with a great idea, and elsewhere, someone else comes up with the precisely same idea, utterly independent upon your person. A friend of mine hates Warner Brothers for that particular reason. He is working on a truly bizarre(!!!!!!!) basketball game set on an asteroid (long story, but it involves three weird aliens who crash into an asteroin and wait for a tow truck). The original title? Space Jam. Then, Warner Bros. had to make that movie, and now, the title has been necessary to change to "Space Basket". Not as catchy, is it? ;) Trust me, you're not alone in that situation.

*Warpmind sneaks out again, pondering what to do next.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 11:14:40 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Robby > Ninjara was a *fox*!! ;) I can't believe they wrote her out. She was the only thing that distinguished that particular "Turtles" book from the other incarnations.

cartoon crushes > Gadget from "Rescue Rangers." Cute little thing. And smart, too. One of my favorite scenes is when she offers Chip'n'Dale a seat, then proceeds to build one. I even came up with a character to interact with her and the rangers: Chad. That's short for Chad R. Cheese. Horrible, horrible pun, I know. I made a couple short stories with him, in which he was duped by members of the mouse community to put a bell around the local cat's neck. This was before "Capital Critters," in which that very same suggestion was made. It's hardly original, of course. Everyone's heard the story about the bell.

Another character that I created that somehow made it into the cartoons: A sentient little flame whose name I can't quite remember. Something lame, like Flick, Flamey, or whatever. When he began a fire, he was actually giving birth to "evil cousins." Sound familiar? They did the exact same thing on "Animaniacs." One really odd story I wrote with him was centered on an attempt of his to sell lemonade.

I think the reason I never pursued more stories with Chad and the Flame was because I discovered them in other media. I tend to do that. I once developed a little fantasy in which I was a writer and there was a woman who couldn't confess her feelings for me... and then I found that very same scenario on "Melrose Place." (I coulda written for that show!)

Seeing your fantasies in reality is a good way to kill them, eh?

Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 08:31:04 AM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

*Warpmind strides in, followed by his chibis.*
Hi, gang. Just figured I'd have to respond today. Again.

Fanfic Progress: I'm back to writing for real now. Current project is the 16th episode in my continuing series. The title? The First Seal. (I have planned up to episode 22, you ought to figure out the meaning.) Coming soon to the Fanfic Archive. Oh, and a small teaser: Brooklyn and Demona, sitting peacefully on a rooftop at the Cloisters, just watching the river... Needless to say, Demona's had some thinking to do... Oh, and I'm borrowing the relationship between Demona and Nostradamus for various purposes.

Caliope: You say there's a lack of decent guys in this world? I beg to differ. I consider myself a decent guy (albeit a bit weird at times), and I can assure you, we are most certainly NOT all that scarce. The problem is, we're not as loud as the less decent guys. Thus, it's always the scoundrels and scum who get the chicks. I sense a nasty trend...

Aaron: Ooo, that game sounds fun... Nay, it sounds great! Now, do you honestly think it will run on a 486SX33MHz with 16 Megs of RAM, and DOS only? ;)

Coyote: Um... how can I say this... uh... actually, Rei-Lan *was* on that list of mine... as well as that little ladyfriend of hers... *Whistles innocently.* I found it on the internet purely by accident. I'm telling you, the VIVO format is quite good for long movies like that. :) Pity it's of rather poor resolution, but what the heck... ;)

Wilek: Something just occured to me about our Italian co-conspirator Shadowrider... could you do a quick background check on him? I just got a rush of concern; if he's been to Z'ha'Dum, he could pose a potential threat to the population on this planet, and more importantly: to the Nereus Project itself...

Jeremy: In TGS, Thailog isn't dead, just a little crippled. He's still around, and he's still got a bad attitude to the other gargoyles.

Zath: Alas, I've never seen Cool World. Not that I know I have, anyway. And gargoyles actually have more of a middle finger than humans do. Thing about it: make a fist. The look at it in the mirror. Count the number of fingers you see (at the back of your hand, of course), and I will guess that, unless you have a missshapen thumb or have been in any accidents, you should see four fingers. A gargoyle would only count three fingers there, and thus, middle finger. It's all as easy as that, see? :)

Doug/Zath: I hear the DVD version has a few extra minutes of footage in with the mirror Ashes, plus some extra few clips with the skeletal army. Not to mention the comments from Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi. And, unless I'm mistaken, there's a free choice of ending. Or was it just that it showed both endings, the original first and the alternative second? Hmmm... Actually the second version's line when Ash shot Evil Ash in the face was a bit better than the original, in my opinion. "You're little goody two-shoes." BANG! "I ain't that good." :) Arghle! I gotta see AoD again. Make that the whole trilogy. Oh, and as I've heard, they're working on making Evil Dead 4. As a computer game. So far so good, eh? :)

Gside: No La Blue Girl video? Rats. I wanted to see how it looks... I've never even seen clips from it, just read about it. And as for this women/porn debate: I think there's something you should be aware of: quite often it's the most publically outspoken against something who enjoy it most "in the closet", so to speak... which makes me wonder about Margot Yale's view on gargoyles... ;)

SJ: Actually, I agree with you on English being the most perfect language ever. Mainly due to all the grammatical irregularities that in effect makes it the craziest language today. No other language is as well adapted to puns. ;)

Wilek: Good going. Nice, new Joyride. :) By the way, I have a suggestion: Should we make a deal with Castro? Let him keep Cuba, and give him some better trade agreements that he has these days? I for one wouldn't mind (unless you have plans for Cuba, that is), and I'd really like an import deal on those Havanas...

Stephen Sobotka: Oh, yes, those elves in Elfquest... mmm... I want one... :)

Well, I gotta run now.

*Strides out again, chibis in tow, rooting for candies from his pockets.*
Oh, all right, you guys... *Digs up a little bag of sweets, then disappears.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 05:08:40 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Greetings all...

CHRISTINE - Hope they do decide to give "Black Roses" a chance...for if they do, perhaps you can recommend my "Moray & Co." stories, if I can ever finish up enough stories for them. :) Seriously though, here's to hoping for success for you. (but if they need someone to read Alphonse Bugbedead, give me a mention, k?) :)

CARTOON CRUSHES - Let's see...I used to have those...well, the earliest one I can recall wasn't an animated character, per sey. It was Nightfall from the "Elfquest" comics...something about her and Redlance (whom I saw a lot of myself in) and their relationship just got to me. For real animated characters, I guess my earliest had to be Kimmy from the "Space Ace" video game by Don Bluth. Space cadet in a mini dress...:)

Of course I love Angela and Elisa from Gargs. I just wish they had done more females other that the token few viewed on the world tour.

JON COLICOS - Commander Kor, yes, but he was also (for those old enough to remember) the diabolical Count Baltar from "Battlestar Galactica"... I heard he had come around to do the trailer Richard "Apollo" Hatch had done for his BG movie project. Somehow, Any production done now will seem empty without him...

(raises both a mug of Bloodwine and a glass of Ambrosia in a toast) To Jon...a great actor and a fine man. You will be missed.

NEW MUPPET SHOW - I dunno about this one... to be honest I was apalled that some company outside America had purchased the Henson Company. What is this going to mean for Sesame Street, and other Henson productions like "Farscape", "The Wubbulous World of Dr. Seuss" and any future Muppet movies? In my opinion, whomever had ownership of the Henson company (Wasn't that Disney?) before should have fought tooth and nail to keep them...

Well, that's all for now... Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 03:03:32 AM
IP: m188.ieway.com

**HORRIFIC DC CARNAGE (Is there any kind of carnage that isn't horrific?)**

[The room sees the familiar sight of Mr. Disconnect strapped to the torture device affectionately known as Mr. Thingy. Wilek strides in, grinning evilly. Wilek: "I take it you know what I bought today." DC: "Um...Pokemon Stadium?" Wilek: "You know that's not what I'm talking about, punk. <produces the Nightmare On Elm Street DVD Boxed Set and whips out Wes Craven's New Nightmare> This look familiar? Care to explain why, exactly, the thing *stopped* at each chapter break? I had to use the chapter forward and back buttons to get the movie to play. This is annoying." DC: "I--" Wilek: "NO MORE EXCUSES. I've already planned something... <twitch> appropriate." Wilek commands the torture engine to inject DC...not with a virus or acid or any of the usual twistedness, but a simple sedative. Wilek: "Sweet dreams..." Wilek prepares a nucleonic recorder as DC sinks into slumber...and on the CR's screen, it is seen that DC has, in his dreams, found himself in a twisted gothic architectural nightmare, nearest resembling a cross between Castle Wyvern, a xenomorph hive, and an abandoned asylum. DC: "Oh dear gods no..." A familiar *screeeeek*, like a knife on a chalkboard (which is pretty much what it is), splits the air...a raspy voice echoes in the dank, rotting halls: "1, 2, Freddy's coming for you..." The black, slick roots growing in the stone floors and walls rear up and grip DC by the ankles, wrists, and throat, growing razor sharp thorns, pinning him to a wall as a clawed, hatted madman that isn't Forfexx for once strides up to Mr. Disconnect and brandishes his razor glove. Freddy: "Ruining one of *my* little cinematic masterpieces, piggy? <screeches claw against wall again> Y'know, that isn't nice." Freddy lops off Mr. Disconnect's right leg at the knee, and the 'real' DC's leg is slashed off by an invisible force. Freddy: "I mean, I'm nice enough not to ruin *your* little games." Freddy does DC's left leg. Freddy: "But then, I know a lot about etiquette. Keep your elbows off the table--" Freddy impales DC's right elbow with one finger claw-- "--wash your hands--sorry, *hand*--before dinner--" Freddy vomits acidic blood on DC's remaining hand--"And no matter how much they cry, no matter how much they beg, never feed 'em after midnight." Freddy splits into a bunch of chibi-Freddies that crawl down Mr. Disconnect's throat and tear him apart from within. Naturally, since all this is also happening to the 'real' DC, the room is quite a mess by now.]

**END**

Gside> <<Nope, that's 42>> Oh, it *is* 47--the reference being that the number 47 shows up with uncanny regularity in the Star Trek shows. I had a link lying around here that was a catalog of all the times it happened; I'll post it here when I can find it again...<<Don't Panic, I assure you I will get to it, sun just worked better for subsequent logical steps.>> Hey, no problem; I have the MID anyhow. ;P <<Uh, yeah, sure, we believe you...>> What, you think I'm the stereotypical horndog male idiot who drools over *those*? ;P I never liked them myself, I always thought they looked...deformed, somehow. They're only of any use to babies anyhow. ;) <<will continue to maintain, due to statistical probablilty, popular opinion, and hyperbole, that anything remotely related to porn will immediately repel those with 2 X chromosomes, and draw those with one Y and one X chromosome.>> Am I the only male of any species on the face of the earth who thinks naked people are ugly (not to mention having little or no impact on spciety)?

$Doug> <<a golden humanoid that resembles Mewtwo of Pokemon fame.>> Actually, he's blue with a reddish mane. :) <> Mind? I'm very glad you did; I was wondering if they'd ever be able to return after I messed up so badly last time. :)$

Warpmind> <<Tenth level of Hell? This opens a lot of potential for both the Joyride and the regular RP... :)>> I hadn't thought of that...<evil laughter> <<Of course, this is merely a suggestion of mine.>> And a very good one. I think we'll incorporate it. :) <<I have already chosen my two closest subordinates for the Scandinavian sector; on for regular police authoroties; a moderately sadistic guy with scruples, and the head of the Secret Police, who is a high-ranking psychotic sadist with few ethical limitations. ;) Rather have him with us than against us, youknowwhatImean? ;)>> Very good idea...A lot of the senior staff are psychotic sadists anyhow, myself included, so he'll fit right in. ;D <<As for the Joyride, well, we can try to travel in time at any given time, but I'll give you free hands for a few present-time Joyrides first. :) There is just about nothing that can cause complications.>> Ah good...I'm thinking, first use a huge bomb to turn most of Las Vegas into burnt mud (except the Luxor, for personal reasons), then time-travel to arrive shortly after the next election and take care of that womanizing redneck that's currently in the White House...

Skippy> <<A moment of silence please in honor of the passing of John Colicos. Commander Kor has gone on to Sto'VoKor...>> :( <moment of silence>

Shadowrider> <<Do you wanna the Pope in New Orleans? Well, if Wilek agrees, we could arrange it...>> I'm game if you are! :D

Mecord> <<Our spaniel died last night. :(>> Oh no! :`( <moment of silence>

Magic and language> Probably a spell (mortal magic, at least) can only work in the language it was originally written in, and the ones we've seen so far were written in Latin and Hebrew. I'm probably wrong, but oh well.

Zath> <<However, if he included 42 references in a direct reference to Doug Adams, then there would actually be 43 references, and the joke would self-destruct in the paradox of its own creation. : )>> Oh. COOL... :D <<It might be funny if he made them play the apes...>> >8D hehehehehehhee <<Ever see the Animaniacs version with Dot and Taz?>> Um...never even heard of it, I'm afraid. :} <> :O <speechless> 8D <<In New York City, would gargoyles be considered handicapped because they don't have any middle fingers?>> We do, it's the equivalent of the ring finger that we're missing.

SJ> <<I don't mention opera stuff in here cause....well, I don't like opera. I like music that inspires me to committ acts of violence, or music that expresses all of the pent up rage, depression, and turmoil in my soul.>> For some reason, the Commendatore scene from Mozart's Don Giovanni does that for me. <shrug> <> Ms. Piggy going postal with a machine gun...hehehehehehhehehehehehe <<I've always wanted to learn Etruscan. And perhaps Japanese, or Chinese. But hey, I already know English, and that's the most perfect language ever, right? ;)>> I'm into Latin myself. Too bad pretty much every Latin word I know is from Gargoyles, The Omen, or the last boss in Final Fantasy VII. :P

**JOYRIDE**

[The Joyriders pause in whatever mayhem they're committing at the moment, to notice Wilek carrying what appear to be transporter beacons, and Miriam directing him to place them in certain points around the Luxor Hotel. Warpmind: "Um...what, exactly, are you two doing?" Wilek: "Well, we're going to blow up Las Vegas after we're done here, but I rather like the whole Egyptian thing, so I'll be using this place as my imperial palace when I've taken over the world." Wilek sets the last beacon, Miriam enters a command into a PADD, and the Luxor disappears in a lot of lights, along with the dead bodies that the other Riders have left. Xanathar: "Blow it up? Why?" Wilek: "Because, casinos suck the economy dry and contribute nothing in return. They attract crime and are nothing but elaborate machines that greedy porcine mobsters use to steal people's money and get away with it. We're going to put an end to that." Pistoff: "<evil grin> I like the way you think. Need help with this?" Wilek: "Thanks, but no; the bomb's already set and I have what I need from here. Everyone, finish up whatever it is you have to do here, because when we're ready to leave...BOOM. <maniacal laughter>"]

**END**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 02:33:29 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Niamhgold- I still have my tonsils and I'm 20. I'm also fortunate enough to say that I've never had tonsillitis either. It's kind of weird, everyone in my family has had it multiple times (my twin sister used to get it all the time) but I've never had it at all.

Zath- I'm just guessing here but that was a very bad week for you wasn't it? The worst that happened to me was a very bad headache and an overwhelming urge to sleep which now that I think about it was probably a dangerous sign. Oh well at least I woke-up.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 02:01:52 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

GSIDE<<:Sorry but it is a force of habit.I always write,type or tag like that and have been 4 years and i can't stop even if i wanted 2.It comes from a lost grip on reality which was spawned from a thing me and mine call sulber syndrom.This is when u do 2 much drinkin and 2 much puffin that u end up wrecked more then u r sulber that eventualy leaves u feeling buzzin when u sulber and feelin normal when u r buzzin.This kills braincells and u end up like me typing incoherent often misspelled words that make absoloutly no sense.SERVIUS JR<<:Finaly some one who likes gargoyles watches wrestling and gets drunk.Yeah that mental midget most likely would have got his ass kicked but mcmahon broke it up.Dubbaya C Dubbaya realy does su...diddly..uck lately.I like the rock but Nash and Hall are the shhhhiiii............t.As 4 being a mark so is about 1 billion other people alot more people watch it then they would care 2 admit.Well now that i am done makin an ass out of myself i will go listen to some pac and use some herbel esscences.{Time goes by puffin on la hopen it'll get me high got a n!$$a goin crazy i feel crazy.......}
Jeremy - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 01:10:46 AM
IP: nas-3-162.boston.navinet.net

Crushes on Cartoon Characters: I've always had a crush on Angela. She was cute, smart, and independent.

It's probably a good thing she's a fictional character though. Look at who I would of lost out to. :/

<--- "Gee, I had no idea if I pointed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger I would hurt her!"

But I digress...

Infinity: <<Speaking of world domination, have you ever considered using computer viruses? This has always been one of my favorite theories. Since the world is practically run by computers all a potential subjugator would need do is engineer a computer virus so nasty it would scramble all the computer operated equipment in the world. Think of it; cars, planes, digital watches, not to mention nuclear reactors would all be neutralized! Utter chaos!>> Somebody's already prepared for that eventuality. The United States Air Force already has an "electronic warfare division" up and running. They are trained to deal with electronic intelligence/counter-intelligence, cyber-terrorism, and other special operations. Just remember; You might be able to jam a couple of their computers, but you can't jam their rifles.

Sigh... I wish things were going better for John McCain. I not particularly thrilled with either Bush or Gore. Bradley? [scoffs] Forget it. But I heard that McCain did well in the General Election. I sure hope he stays on.
Tim P.
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:53:27 AM
IP: s20-onawa.pionet.net

SJ > Heh, someone must like "Meet the Feebles" huh? My favorite Jackson film is and always will be "Heavenly Creatures" tho. But I'm sooo looking forward to "Lord of the Rings" If anyone can pull this off in live action, it's Jackson.
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:19:07 AM
IP: ctrts3-2.mrs.umn.edu

***BEGIN RP****
Sammael, Kari, and Dyspare stare in surprise as Tom Hanks approaches them.
"Look!" Kari says excitedly. "It's famous movie star and Oscar winner Tom Hanks!"
"Yes, yes, it's me!" Tom gloats. "Gee, isn't today a great day? It sure is, and you know why? Cause I'm me! I'm Tom Hanks, biggest f@#$ing star in Hollywood. Oh, what horrible , pathetic lives you must live knowing you can never be me!"
"What the hell is this guy talking about?" Sammael asked.
"He's a big movie star," Kari explained.
"Hey Sammael!" Dyspare screeched, pointing to Hanks. "I think I recognize this guy! I think he sold his soul to the boss a while back."
"I don't remember...."
"He was on that dopey cross-dressing show."
"Bosom Buddies," Kari offered helpfully.
"Oh, well then," Sammael nodded. "That explains it. He must have sold his soul if he went from that show to Oscar-winner."
"Hey, I do the funny stuff here, buddy," Hanks snapped. "I do it all, don't you know. Comedy, drama, suspense, etc. I'm the greatest actor in the world. The history of the world for that matter."
"I'm getting annoyed," Sammael muttered.
"Why, I could read the phone book and get an Oscar for it. I'm THAT good."
"VERY annoyed," Sammael continued. His eyes began to glow.
"I'm so good that the mere attachment of my name to a film ensures its success!"
"Okay, enough of this crap," Sammael said. He pointed a finger at Hanks. "Burn."
And with that, Tom Hanks instantly was engulfed in flames, his skin melting off him. In mere seconds, only a pile of ash and cooked fat remained.
"Did you have to do that?" Kari asked. "I wanted an autograph."
****END RP FOR NOW****

Hey all! Happy Fat Tuesday! And Happy Super Tuesday! Some of you probably spent the whole night drinking (where ARE you, JackaL?) Some of you probably spent the day voting. If you were really smart about it, you spent the day drinking and THEN voted.

Opera news: I don't mention opera stuff in here cause....well, I don't like opera. I like music that inspires me to committ acts of violence, or music that expresses all of the pent up rage, depression, and turmoil in my soul. Placido Domingo just doesn't give me that. Anyway, there is one opera I like-the Phantom of the Opera. It looks as if they're trying to make a big screen version of the play, and they're thinking of casting Antonio Banderas as the Phantom. I'm kind of torn on this. I like Antonio, and the sunnavagun actually can sing (check out "Desparado"-that's his real voice)....but he also butchers the English language whenever he speaks. Still, he'd make a cool Phantom, if you ask me.

Das Kermit ein Frog: Not looking forward to a Muppet revival. I've grown up and beyond the Muppets. I personally would love to see Peter Jackson behind this new show, but that would just be plain evil on my part.
**Cyber-cookie to whoever understands the Jackson reference I'm making here! :)**

Army of Darkness: There are actually a few versions of the film out there. One is the regular video one. Another is the tv broadcast one, in which I believe they cut out some of the gorier bits but add a few other scenes missing from the regular version. Then there's the "original" ending, which has Ash waking up in the future to a cold, dead, apocalyptic world. I actually like the "bad" ending (even though it eliminates the supercool "Hail to the King, baby." catchphrase), cause it sets up perfectly for a sequel. Too bad we'll probably never see it, ever.

Languages: I've always wanted to learn Etruscan. And perhaps Japanese, or Chinese. But hey, I already know English, and that's the most perfect language ever, right? ;)
Oh, and PLEASE, take that as joke? I don't want someone writing back a long paragraph explaining the difficulties and fallacies found in the English language as opposed to another.

Jeremy: I'm gonna show what a total mark I really am, but yeah, I watch wrestling on Monday nights. I'm a long time WCW fan, even though it's gone all to Hell in recent months. The Rock has to be my fave, though. So Dean and Mideon got into a real fight? Bet Mideon kicked Deano Machino's ass. I went to a WCW house show once, and Dean wrestled. He's a freakin' midget, I swear. He's a five and a half footer at *best*.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:09:15 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Before, the question why does the sun shine was asked. Now, it's when does the sun set? The new mp3 is Twilight by The Band, which I believe makes a good song for Elisa (think right before Goliath wakes up).

Robby> Gundam Wing: I really wish RUNet 2000 really was. (RUNet 2000 is the project here to equip all dorms with ethernet and cable. Rutgers tends to be notoriously late.)

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, March 8, 2000 12:07:30 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

*Robby burps* 542 paczis! Beat my old record! (I'm surprised you remembered how many I consumed last year Don...)

The new muppet show- The one Disney tried in 1998 failed due to a horrible timeslot and lack of advertizing. I thought it was good, and am looking forward to the new one.

Gundam Wing- I am SOO liking this show! Whats even better, Cartoon Network has enough faith in it to show an uncut version at 11:00 (midnight elsewhere)! The first episode alone used the word "damn" twice, and replaced the word "destroy" with "kill"... I have VERY high hopes, since Gundam Wing was released straight to video and wasn't originally intended for television, there shouldn't be too much mucking with it... But best of all... Its an INTELLIGENT cartoon! Egads! And Cartoon Network is showing it twice a day with HEAVY ammounts of advertising! Neat-o!

Brooklyn and Demona- My two favorite characters. Don't have time to go into why just now, but they are.

Cartoon Crushes- I seem to remember having a crush on a character in the Ninja Turtle comics named Ninara...
Robby
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:59:54 PM
IP: spider-we054.proxy.aol.com

Katara > given that this is a new, just-starting-out audio book company, I doubt they'd be able to get any name voices. They do it in-house, though a couple of their authors have read their own. I don't know ... it would be interesting, and with my gaming experience I'm used to doing different people ... it'd be interesting, and if they offer I'd at least do a sound test. But hell yeah, the thought of Keith David reading, especially for the thought-voice of the incubus ... ::swoon::

Jenna > Justin the Rat! Yes, ma'am! I _love_ him! Another swashbucklery short tunic! ; )

Fictional crushes > in addition to Justin, there was of course Chernabog ... for comics, I always had a thing for Nightcrawler from the X-Men (I have distinct furry tendencies, it seems <g>) ... literary-wise, there's one moment in Lord of the Rings that makes me giddy for Legolas -- he's just shot his bow at a Nazgul and is standing there crowned by stars -- an echo of that actually turns up in Dark of the Elvenwood with Arien (and what's really weird is having a crush on a fictional character of my own creation!!!)

Niahmgold > for Gargoyles music, the one that gets to me is the one I think of as "MacBeth's Theme." As for tonsils, don't feel bad; I had mine out two years ago and I'm almost 33 now. I recommend a sort of popsicle that has a vanilla ice cream core ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:53:39 PM
IP: 05-023.009.popsite.net

Languages: <<<the most ancient of all languages would not be anything found in Europe, but, instead, those found in China and Egypt>>: I vote for Africa. That is where humanity supposedly first evolved.> it is where your kind evolved...but the oldest languages would be in one of three categories:

1) extinct. the language of the Indus Valley civilization {traders in a time where all other nations were dynastic}.

2) changed-through-time. as long as a language exists, it will change. look at the differences between British English and the English of hte former British colonies....or the relation of the Romance Languages.

3) scholar-tongued. this sort of language exists only in religious texts. Latin and Hebrew {the original forms} count in here.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:48:20 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Dang, gotta recalibrate with time.gov...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:26:48 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Doug> <<Which means it's when I get handed a lot of midterms>>: I hear ya. Got one tomorrow (linguistics) and two thursday (simulations and discrete math).

Hell link: Oh, yeah, you do know that Hell is exothermic, right?

Katara> <<or human/mutate for that matter) relationship can work. Lord knows it sure as heck won't be easy. Look at all the problems inter-racial couples face these days. Think how much worse it'll be with inter-species>>: Do mutates count as a new species? If I remember correctly thedefinition of a species is that they can mate successfully and the children can also mate successfully. I would assume that the mutate process wasn't so drastic (probably for ease of future plots) to make them mules, or that their children would be.

Warpmind> Miko Mido: Why... no... I did not have a crush on Ms. Mido. (Really, I didn't. Plus the operative words in my previous post were "no, that's something else..." And I haven't even seen an entire episode, let alone own a video.)
Porn: I will continue to maintain, due to statistical probablilty, popular opinion, and hyperbole, that anything remotely related to porn will immediately repel those with 2 X chromosomes, and draw those with one Y and one X chromosome.

Jeremy> Again, I apologize, by my pedant is thretening major cerebral injury. This is not a chat room. You have plenty of time to capitalize, and spell words like "you," "are," "for," and the complete "-ing" affix.
By the way, you were thinking of Smurfette.

CtB> <<vibrates with anticipation>>: That sounds rather wrong...

Shadowrider> Favorite Dune character: I must admit that I have forgotten most of the characters. Few were repeated between books (except for Duncan), but I seem to recall liking the mentat (eh, I'm a nerd).
<<I'm studying Engineering>>: What kind? Mech E? ECE? CE? Something else? (to expant the acronyms: Mechanical, Eletrical/Computer, and Ceramics)

Niamhgold> <<the most ancient of all languages would not be anything found in Europe, but, instead, those found in China and Egypt>>: I vote for Africa. That is where humanity supposedly first evolved.

Zath> <<Were you a fan of Exosquad when it was on TV?>>: Couldn't identify it, but maybe I would have. Althoug I do think it would be fun to have a Matrix.
42> Unless the 42nd was the fact that there are 42 references (or would that just not work?).
<<would gargoyles be considered handicapped because they don't have any middle fingers>>: It all depends on what you call middle. Is it the middle of all your manual digits, or just the fingers?

Somewhere around 35:25 minutes until I will consider posting the new mp3.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:25:31 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

imagine the Tengu or Karasu...we know from Timedancer that they're around {DISHONOR}...but where will we see them? {hey, i can hope, right?}.

Zath: <<Rodlox> <<and a class of flightless predatory birds over six and seven feet tall>> I seem to recall hearing about one, Argentavis Magnificense (sp?), that was 6 feet tall and *COULD FLY*! I'd love to see Brooklyn's reaction to running into one of those during his timedancing.>> i'll consider it for my fanfic - but won't complain if he meets them in the TGS series on-web.

the flightless ones were {and i quote} 'like avian linebackers' {bird football players}. not only did they have a clawed hand on each arm, and could actually hold their prey while kicking and biting it to bits.

the ones with flight were called Teratorns, some had a wingspan of 22 feet across. i mention them in one of my fanfics {the one which has the blurp 'one mutate gets his 15 minutes of fame'}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 10:31:15 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Niamhgold: There are two ancient languages that are still actively spoekn today: Mandarin Chinese and Hebrew. (fun factoid I learned in Chinese class)

Warpmind: <g> The South is a strange, strange little place...
jewel
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 10:13:45 PM
IP: atlnb402-42.splitrock.net

Oh, dang, almost forgot ... WHEEL 'ER IN, BOYS!

**moving crew enters with two items on their flatbed, an Execution^TM cake and sixty boxes of paczis**

Firstly, trying to make up for missin' Mr. Elder's birthday last week ... **tosses Doug a remote** Happy very belated birthday ... pick yer flavor.

Secondly, since today's Fat Tuesday, PACZIS FOR EVERYBODY!! **jumps on the flatbed and starts tossing paczis to all the room residents** Come on now, don't be shy, let's see if anyone can beat Robby's record from last year (530) before midnight! :)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 10:11:35 PM
IP: zzz-209252248216.splitrock.net

Zath: The bad one, where he sleeps too long. It was the main reason I disliked the version. That, and they changed the "Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun!" part. :( Oh, uh, welcome back!
Doug
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 09:50:37 PM
IP: pool-207-205-151-58.dlls.grid.net

Zath, re: Kira: Before she let out her wings. For a character in a (mainly) children's production, Kira was *damn* sexy. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 09:47:59 PM
IP: zzz-209252248216.splitrock.net

**Zath, Thailog Horror, Kitty, and Chibi-Sevarius wander into the CR after an unbelievably long absence. There is no flashy entrance this time, because they know they must save their energy for the long post ahead.**

Okay, now for my *real* post of not quite Traveleresque proportions. I really *did* intend to post last night, but things came up, mainly remembering I needed to find and print a bunch of articles for class and then getting distracted by talking with friends until nearly 3am (not a good thing to do after pulling an all-nighter the night before). Let's see, what has happened since the last time I made a real post?... Wow, it's been a long time! My birthday was almost a month ago. It was dull and uneventful. I went to the San Andreas Fault and got snow thrown at me. The rest of the trip was dull and uneventful. I had midterms last week. Other than that, not much has happened. In a follow-up to last night's mini-post, yes, I did go back and buy the Gargoyles lunch box. At first it looked like both boxes had both been sold already, but then I found mine under a heap of teeny-tiny sweatshirts. I'm not sure what I'm actually going to do with the thing not that I have it, but it's cute. The little black flecks mixed into the grey plastic to give it a more stone-like appearance are a nice touch. : ) Out of curiosity, I went to see if there was anything good in the toy section, but alas, there were no garg toys. All they had were toy pagers, a Power Rangers gun, a single cheesy looking Biker Mice from Mars toy, and row after row after row of blue "Izzy" figures. Does anyone even remember which year's olympics that stupid thing was mascot? Why are they still selling them?!? This is even stranger than when I walked into a $0.98 store in Longbeach and saw a giant box (about 5x5x4 feet) filled to the point of overflowing with "New Kids on the Block" plastic drink bottles. If the store has that many they are trying to get rid of *now*, how many did they have when they (both the defunct boy band and Izzy) were actually popular?!?

Poll> I'd probably go with mutation. I'd like to keep my overall human appearance but get improved speed/strength, increased bone strength (prevents injuries now and prevents osteoporosis later : ) ), slightly sharper teeth (and I'd want my upper left canine and rear molars to grow back and actually fit in my jaw this time), better night-vision and long range vision (with nifty slitted cats-eye pupils of course, but I'd probably keep them their original brown), electrical abilities (do those come with the ability to sense electrical fields the way some fish do?), gills (in addition to my lungs, not replacing them. Some extra muscles in the chest cavity and other slight alterations could let my lungs double as a fish's swim-bladder, letting my control my buoyancy without a BCD. I guess I'd probably also need some sort of clear membrane to protect my eyes and let me see clearly underwater), and octopus/cuttlefish-like color-changing ability (just for kicks). Then, I'd top it all off with a lightweight (preferably neutrally buoyant) battlesuit with flight capabilities (mutate wings would create too much drag underwater, not to mentioned making it uncomfortable to use a regular chair or sleep on my back), thrusters for extra speed underwater, and bullet/laser-proof armor (and maybe a fake tail, like on Xanatos' exo, to help with high speed underwater turns, to smack people with and because it looks cool. If I had a real tail my pants wouldn't fit correctly anymore, and long car/plane trips would be even more uncomfortable than they already are).

Warpmind> <<Got any nice little Trojans lying around?>> Ooo! **jumps up and down, waving arms like an idiot** There's one right here! **starts doing the V for victory sign, then stops, remembering it's an obscene gesture in many countries** What? That wasn't the type of Trojan you meant? Oh... **pouts** I guess that's what I get for trying to show a little school spirit... ; ) <<Within the Illuminati, that incident is usually referred to as "The Dishrag Affair">> *LOL* That reminds me of the movie Sabrina, where someone mentioned handling Harrison Ford's character's underwear was like touching the shroud of Turin. My mom interpreted it to mean it was like touching a holy relic. I took it to mean they were old, falling apart, and had stains that looked like a face. <<But, at least I realize they're just cartoon characters, and any physical affair is unrealistic.>> Have you ever seen Cool World?

Robby> <<Although by the end we DID have Margot Yale getting revenge on everyone, Elisa pregnant, invading teletubbies, Brooklyn with a tatoo that said "Moth", and Xanatos dying his hair blond and shaving off his goatee so he could play John Smith in the broadway production of Pocahontas...>> I have to read this!!!

Gside> <> Were you a fan of Exosquad when it was on TV? <<"Let's see if I can't get every computer to play the entire dead parrot sketch every time someone presses ctrl...">> Someone did that in my high school comp-lab, only it was some long scene from South Park involving Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo, and it went off every time someone opened, closed, resized, or minimized a window. <<Nope, that's 42>> However, if he included 42 references in a direct reference to Doug Adams, then there would actually be 43 references, and the joke would self-destruct in the paradox of its own creation. : )

Wilek> <<Damon or DiCaprio in Tim Burton's "Planet Of The Apes"> No. Dear gods, *no*... Burton would never allow this...>> It might be funny if he made them play the apes... <<How in the *worlds* do they punish that? A seance? Necromancy? Wait for the guy to be reincarnated? Or do they just throw the stiff in a cell?!>> It's the only crime that can't be punished it the perpetrator succeeds. <<The Disney version of Beast (I've never seen any other, unless King's Quest 6 counts) is *way* kewler than his human form>> Ever see the Animaniacs version with Dot and Taz? <<It does look awfully weird and gross and evil, but it's rather friendly.>> I really need to figure out where I left that quick sketch I did back around Christmas time... <<Welcome back!>> Thank you! : )

Doug> Happy (belated) Birthday! <<On top of that, in my classes this week is the last week before spring break. Which means it's when I get handed a lot of midterms, big homework assignments, etc.>> We had midterms last week, so this week all the teachers are cramming as much information as possible into every lecture just to spite the people who don't feel like showing up because it's after tests and before break. <<Director's Cut of Army of Darkness>> Which ending does it have?

Mecord> <<just because none of it ever really happened doesn't mean we can't fool ourselves into thinking it might have been. That's the fun of fiction.>> I like that quote. : )

Niamhgold> <<to the point of describing all females in terms of pixels and polygons like he does>> That is a bit extreme...

Starsinger> <<Yesterday a group of students in Socorroro detonated a pipe bomb. Instructs via the internet. There must be an easier way to get out of classes.>> By the time I graduated, in my high school it had gotten so bad bomb threats were just completely ignored. Maybe that's how it was at that school, and the kids felt using a real bomb was the next logical step to get attention. (I'm not justifying their actions, just trying to get inside their heads...)

Spacebabie> <<I'm not sure what to do either see a podiatrist>> No! Run away! They'll steal your sole... er, soul. ; ) Sorry, it's just that I had a traumatic experience with a podiatrist when I was young. Actually, I had two, a traumatic experience for each foot. Six shots in one toe is never fun, especially for a grade-schooler with an intense fear of needles.

Kitainia <<grounds for suing the mouse, and wins>> I'm curious, has anyone ever won a battle against the mouse?

Shadowrider> <<so "Playboy" become "Donald Duck's Almanac"->> That's even worse than when some cable network (might have been USA or TNT, can't remember) changed the outdoor shots in From Dusk 'Til Dawn so the neon sign said the bar's name was the "Kitty Twister" <<reading "Dune" as outside the wind howls and snow hits the window>> Depending on the type of snow, as long as you didn't actually *look* at it, you could pretend the sounds were coming from a sandstorm...

Rodlox> <<and a class of flightless predatory birds over six and seven feet tall>> I seem to recall hearing about one, Argentavis Magnificense (sp?), that was 6 feet tall and *COULD FLY*! I'd love to see Brooklyn's reaction to running into one of those during his timedancing.

Fire Storm> <<you start to be able to tell the difference between first second and thrid degree burns!>> 1st=red 2nd=blisters 3rd=charred, or do you mean being able to tell by feel? Either way, severe ouchie! <<1995. On the Discovery Channel show "Beyond 2000" showed a device that attatched to the temple of a quadraplegic and by just thinking he could move the mouse pointer on the screen>> I remember that! However, was it directly connected to the brain or just reacting to the electrical changes it detected from the outside?

jewel> <> No need to abuse the poor snake. Feed it to Mr. DC instead and kill two obnoxious birds with one stone >: )

Pistoff> <<If you think that's scary...have you ever looked in the fridge and found an empty plate? "Did something eat something else?!">> *LOL* I've actually had that happen. Your explanation is much more amusing than just believing my brother was being lazy. <<Besides, they'd probably be too busy flipping each other off to give gargoyles much thought>> In New York City, would gargoyles be considered handicapped because they don't have any middle fingers? Or, would they just be expected to use the two-fingered, European version?

SOROW> <> Please, see a doctor, even if you don't get an x-ray. <> The one guy in Goliath's hand looks kind of like one of Xanatos' goons with the uniform painted the wrong color, but for the rest of them I'll have to go with Wilek's "Evil Ninjas" explanation.

Green Baron> <<WB Zath>> Thank you. : )

Infinity> <<places to download free MP3's>> www.audiogalaxy.com had good stuff on occasion.

Jaden> <> I did that twice this summer, two days apart, on the same rock. I didn't hit my head, but it took 2 weeks for the black and blue marks on my butt to go away and my toe still doesn't bend as well as it did before I crunched it into a hole in the rock in the second the fall (although getting bitten on the joint by a giant tropical ant a week later probably didn't help either).

Coyote> <<the first crush I can recall on a female character would be Kira from "The Dark
Crystal.">> Before or after you saw her wings? ; )

Hooray, I'm now officially caught up with the room! **Zath, T Horror, Kitty, and even Chibi-Sevarius all do the Happy Dance.** With that out of the way, I need to go get dinner. Hopefully I can start posting at more reasonable intervals the way I used to. Bye for now.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 09:43:55 PM
IP: ppp-229-173.usc.edu

Hmm...don't think I've done a post in this color for a while...

Coyote the Bando: Thanks for your reply! And it's interesting. I've always wondered why each and every doctor I've gone to has a different opinion ;). Let's just say that these three are my least favorite letters: HMO...*sigh*...(Don't get me wrong, I like doctors! Just not _mine_!)

Diet Coke of Evil and the New Muppets: I think that that is a very good idea! Man, Kermit the frog was my ultimate favorite (next to Snoopy, of course) when I was a "wee lass." Didn't the Disney channel try running a year's worth of new muppet episodes back in 1998? They were good, but I don't understand why they didn't last that long...Well, guess I'm lucky the whole things coming back around again! Don't get too many second chances, or even third chances, in life!

Mec: I sympathize with you, so sorry for the loss! I, too, come to regard pets with a sense of humanity (and respect them a lot, because they're such troopers!), and I have lost pets before.

Ancient languages: I tend to believe that the most ancient of all languages would not be anything found in Europe, but, instead, those found in China and Egypt. Egyptian hieroglyphics date far past that of any Latin foundations, and the Asian continent was home to some of the most ancient cultures in the world. Languages tend to develop in eastern regions and spread westward, following the path of the sun; the cultures of China affected those beginning in Mesopotamia, which then spread towards eastern Europe. English is a conglomeration of Nordic and Old German, while Italian and Spanish are derived from Latin. Of course, this is just my personal, *scientific* theory...I'd much rather believe that they all sprouted from Avalon's influence :)

*Yawn* Argh, is it time to do my paper already?! Ach! I've gotta fly!

Until tomorrow...goodnight!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 09:06:33 PM
IP: ncia119n.ncia.net

SJ: I can totally understand your feelings about politics--I know I get completely fed up during the whole Lewinsky fiasco, at the impeachment vote in the House However you feel on the subject or not, it was absolutely *disgusting* to see how partisan everythign had become.

SGB: <g> No clue who I'd put on the Supreme Court. <bigger grin> I'd love to put my Con Law prof on there, if there was a perfect world. The man's brilliant, opinionated, and tell-it-like-it-is, is still remembered at Haverford College by profs when he was an undergrad as "the smartass", and not afraid to follow his conscious. More than that, he argued Bowers v. Hardwick in the SUpreme Court, and the passion he still felt over losing by one justice (who later realized he had voted the wrong way...) makes me wish Prof Koukouchos (and I *know* i spelled that *so* wrong) was on the SC.

Cartoon crushes: Big crush on Tigra from "Thundercats" when I was little. Big time. And the leader from "Silverhawks." Then I grew up...and got a crush on both Gambit and Wolverine...then Hojo from "Sanctuary"...now "Hotohori" from "Fushugi Yuugi"...

Non-cartoon crushes: When I was little (and I mean little, as in from when the movie fist came out in theatres when I was like, 6) I had the *biggest* cursh on Egon from the movie Ghostbusters." It carried over to the cartoon. <g> And also affected the fact that to this day, I like men with big noses...
jewel
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 08:50:05 PM
IP: atlnb310-36.splitrock.net

Muppets > from anotheruniverse.com

Muppet Show To Return

EM.TV and Merchandising AG, the German firm that last
month purchased the Jim Henson Company as well as the
rights to the Muppet characters, announced that it is going
to relaunch The Muppet Show with 26 new episodes.

The new series will reportedly follow the same format as
the original Muppet Show which ran from 1975 to 1983.
In that series, Muppet stars like Kermit, Miss Piggy, and
Fozzie performed elaborate musical numbers and
interacted with celebrity guests. Production on the new
series is scheduled to begin early next year.

--The Hollywood Reporter
Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 08:15:15 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

MECORD<<:Hey that rp stuff sounds like fun how do i get started?I guess u r right about the holocost analogy it was bad.However if someone or something killed my fam and freinds revenge would become my only goal in life.For example if a gargoyle killed my whole fam and all my dogs i could not honestly say the i could focus all my rage on the one garg who did it.It is human nature to lash out and thats what makes demona more then a villian in alot of ways infact she is alot more human like then some of the other gargs.And i think that's why she is so scary she reflects some of the darker sides of human nature.As much as we would hate to admit it there is a little demona in all of us.Hey is thailog realy dead?It sucks if he is he was the only real evil vilian next to the archmage.
Jeremy - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 07:35:16 PM
IP: nas-3-114.boston.navinet.net

Magic & Ancient languages> The way I think of it is that latin is the language of most surviving spells. The Romans and the Greeks they proceeded were learned and accepting of magic. The Dark Ages and the rise of monotheism brought that to a crashing end. Most knowledge was lost, forgotten or destoryed, but what remained had latin roots. As for the language, I think it's a matter of the spell caster rather than the spell. Sort of to help focus the mind. Also some languages are a bit clearer in their intent. I learned this in French class that English is an incredibly jacked-up language. Confusion like read, red, and read or to, too, two are far too common and in a spell could be disaterous. Just my thought.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 07:33:40 PM
IP: 134.71.36.125

Questioner: no, i do mean what i said: Hoplites - the greek civilian military, heavily armored. and thanks...gimme an email, and i'll send some of the work-in-progress your way for proof(f)ing, okay?

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 06:09:07 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Rodlox> Actually Latin isn't the only language that's been used for (mortal) spells in the show. Hebrew was also used. And Greg has said that these can't possibly be the only two languages capable of magic.

My guess is that languages such as (ancient) Egyptian or Sumerian were used before Latin.

Rodlox again> I know modern greek. And some words of ancient greek. What do you want me to help you with? Btw are you sure that the name you mentioned is indeed spelled correctly ? Could you mean Hippolyte or something?
Questioner
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 06:04:10 PM
IP: athe530-q064.otenet.gr

**Funeral taps play and a mournful elf enters the CR**

Our spaniel died last night. :(

Katara> Thanks to you and Wilek for expressing concern. You know what the
worst part of this ordeal is? We have eight cats, one of which is very close
to me. Loosing our dog has given me a fear of loosing "my" cat (I'm usually
referenced as being her human). It's a reality that I will inevitably have to
face some day, and I don't think I'll take it well. Somewhere, the term "pet"
looses meaning for me. I look at them more as members of the family, like
Bronx is to the Gargoyles. My feline is probably why I relate to Hudson and
Bronx so well.

Wilek> Again thanks. 
He died in his sleep at least.

Okay, I'm tired of being depressed *forces a smile*

Demona and Brooklyn>> I, like many, appreciate Demona's complexity. However,
I can't just forget all the evils she has committed. She has murdered dozens
if not hundreds of innocent (and some not so innocent) people. It would be as
is a Jewish holocaust survivor started murdering Germans. Yes we can
sympathize with their pain, but it doesn't change the fact they've killed and
become what they hate the most. I'm not saying that Demona doesn't deserve a
second chance, but even the Captain had to find a way to atone before his
spirit could be released. I don't think the clan (or Elisa for that matter)
can or should forget what she has done. I often imagine what it would be like
to spend a day talking with Demona. Most of the time, her prejudices get in
the way and we have an argument. Sometimes we can come to an understanding of
one another. It's the internal conflict that makes her such an intriguing
character. She has a lot to deal with. But I wouldn't want to be her. As
for Brooklyn, a couple of the guys have already said that they most easily
identify with him, which is partly why he ranked so high on the favorite list.
Personally, I probably have more in common with Matt, though I can also
identify with Xanatos and Hudson.

Cartoon Crush>> I mentioned last week I was guilty of these. My first was
probably Jubilee on X-men. I felt like her a lot back then; a powerful person
surrounded by people more powerful than her.

Non-Cartoon Crushes on fictional characters: Coyote>> No way! I had a crush on
Kira too! I also had a crush on Kitara from the Dragonlance books.

Jeremy>> $RP's - Role Play's, a continuing story where the participants take
on a character identity and act out a part in the story. Often the actions of
one can change the course of the story. For example: My character is Mecord,
an Elf, black hair, 5'2", green eyes, tall pointed ears, medieval clothing,
uses magical crossbow and sword, travels in the company of a golden dragon by
the name of Bardic, and is secretly a thief from another planet. Currently in
the RP, Bardic is invisible on the space station Avatar and Mecord took a trip
back to his home planet. Rules for participating in the RP can be found under
the Disclaimer section of the TGS page.$ Hope that answers your question. :)

****Another short RP****
The five sword wielding thieves around Mecord approach warily, lest he is a
wizard. Trying to clear his head Mecord peers at the thieves. One her
recognizes.
"Senthet? Is that you?"
"Mec?" The female elf sounded agitated, "Where have you been? You were
supposed to be back days ago. Where's Bardic?"
"On a space station near Earth, I think."
"Earth?! You left the Prince of Dragons on Earth?" The other thieves were
snickering.
"Near Earth actually. Look, can't this wait? I have to talk to the
Mindmaster."
****End the RP****

**This post comes to you compliments of Cherry Blossom since my computer won't
let me post. Thanks Cherry!**

Mecord.
Mecord
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:48:06 PM
IP: spider-tp061.proxy.aol.com

Rodlox:> Latin: Well, maybe Latin is actually Fae's language and Romans simply learned it from some of them ("how?", "when?", "why?"...well, I'm not supposed to know everything...I'm studying Engineering, not Ancient Languages). Anyway, Latin makes the spells themselves sound more impressive, at least to me.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:41:53 PM
IP: h255-21-105.mi2.albacom.net

Quickie ...

Niamhgold: I've never had my tonsils out, and I'm gonna be 25 this year. When I came down with tonsillitis, they treated me with antibiotics rather than removing 'em outright.
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:29:12 PM
IP: zzz-209252248216.splitrock.net

this's something that's been bothering me lately about GARGOYLES:
. in the show/series, they all use Latin for magic {even the Fae}....

. but what did they use BEFORE Latin? {Plato's tale of Atlantis, to cite the Timedancer, was certainly to have been told long before Rome or Latin}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:27:18 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*stupid post merely for the fact of making sure I can post*
cherry blossom
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:19:22 PM
IP: spider-tp061.proxy.aol.com

<Shadowrider appears from a shadow (Well? Where else am I supposed to appear from with such a name?)>

Poll:>
14 Gargoyles
10 Battlesuits
6 Mutates
4 Cyborgs

Thanks to Infinity for voting. Well, mutates are slowly recovering, it seems.

Brooklyn:> I agree with Jenna and Aaron about it. I liked Brooklyn since the beginning because he was not like other cartoon heroes, always winning. He is, somehow, a loser; his appearance makes him a freak between his own similars, not talking about humans; he is not the best one in nothing: he is not the strongest one, he is not the fastest one, he is not the most clever, he has good all-round abilities making him more effective than others, but also making the others usually not notice his contribution. But Brooklyn does not surrender: he is a natural-born warrior, so he goes on, using everything he has to beat the odds, living life like a continuous fight to emerge, to be someone between others, because he can't be satisfied with mediocrity, he knows he deserves more- and, if he doesn't succeed, well, he faces it with a grin and tries again, hiding his sorrow with a joke, 'cause warriors are allowed to feel sorrow, but they must NEVER show it. Brooklyn reminds me of myself in more than a way -sometimes he reacts exactly as I do! Then, just like me, he likes motorbikes, leather jackets, rock music,he likes quoting as he speaks...if I'd meet the Gargoyles IRL, he would be the most creditable one to become my friend.
Oh, well...stop it (I'm almost becoming serious!!!);)
Anyway, I liked a lot the way he evolved after his timedancing: he has a family now, he seems in peace with himself, he is more self-trusted (with good reasons to be, of course: after forty years of amazing adventures...) but he is always the same: the rebellious boy is always there, ready to surface with a grin and an odd joke, reflected also in his twin children.

GB:> Do you wanna the Pope in New Orleans? Well, if Wilek agrees, we could arrange it...(I'm sure it'd be better: for sure, after I will take control of Mediterranean Europe, he'll begin to harass ME with his suggestions...and I am definitely not as patient as D'Alema (current Italy's Chief of Government, if they have not replaced him as I was not looking....) ;D
I'm sorry-but who is Ian Pansley? I don't remember I've never heard about him.

Wilek:> You're right -a virus does not suit our needs. Or, better, a virus could have some interesting applications, but those things tend to evade controls. Moreover, I personally prefer a more "material" action...<sinisterly grins>
<<"Live long and prosper">> ...the quoting is somewhere in the final part of the novel, just before the final assault.

SOROW:> Glad to hear you're gonna be alright! :)

Gside:> Dune: a tropical climate? Well, it could suit (if you care not to drink anything for a day or so...;)). Just think that I read "Dune" (the first book) in the middle of one of the coldest winters that Italy remembers (I live in northern Italy, near the Alpes, so winters are usually very cold)...imagine: reading "Dune" as outside the wind howls and snow hits the window... BTW: in the whole Dune Chronicles which character is your preferred one? Mine is Gurney Halleck - I find him somehow similar to Brooklyn.
I heard about the prequel, but I have not read it yet, so I can't say anything. About the movie, it is quite good (well, Lynch is not exactly the dumbest one), but I prefer the books.

Doug:> You're right-there's tons of us who had a crush on Angela-and most of them have not recovered yet!! ;)

Cartoon crushes:> I agree with David completely, he really hit the mark!

Aaron:> A Catholic Archibishop saying it is good to be a organ donor? Are you serious? :O As far as I know, Vatican's position about it is: "NO ORGAN DONATION AT ALL!!!", and I know nothing about shiftings in their politics. Well...maybe it is the beginning of a new schism (the n-teenth one, as I remember...)...let me know if that Archibishop is still at his place next week, or instead someone relieved him...

Gotta go out, see ya later!

Ragga, se vedemu!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:16:55 PM
IP: h255-21-105.mi2.albacom.net

Hello, again! (I seem to be posting at about the same time everyday now, don't I?

Christine: I'm going to add to the bunch of good-luck wishers. We all know you're the best at what you do!

Cartoon crushes: Well, I mentioned my odd and juvenille crush on those Mutant Ninja Turtles ;) As for those characters I've had crushes on from Gargs, I have to admit that it was Matt Bluestone. Yeah, so he's a _human_, almost _normal_ character, but that's what I deal in! Goliath was cool, but a little too sophisticated and straight-laced for my tastes. Brooklyn's always a likable character (I have to agree with Jenna's points), but, I dunno, he just didn't _interest_ me that much.

Jenna: I definitely agree with your argument on Demona. She is so multi-faceted that the viewer gets to experience nearly every emotion from her. She's complex, and, ironically, the most human of all the gargoyle characters.

Quick thing: I went to my doctor appointment today, and the physician told me, point blank, that I've got to get my tonsils out. Does that seem a little ridiculous to anyone but myself? I always thought they were supposed to do this thing when you were a kid! Anyone else here have them out after the age of oh, say, fifteen? I feel like I'm back in elementary school...:(

Pistoff: I'm new here, but I welcome you back, as well!

Anyone find that they have particular music from Gargoyles? For some reason, I always hear myself humming that melody from the third part of the pilot ep, when Xanatos is placing the final pieces on his castle above the clouds. Or, that music from "City of Stone," when Demona bids a stone Goliath goodbye. :))

My...I seem to be on a bit of a rant! My sanity's going, bit by bit ;}

See ya!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 05:08:07 PM
IP: ncia96n.ncia.net

hi...anyone here know Greek? {ancient and-or modern and-or middle/Byzantine}. would any of you like to be proof-readers? {i need help on some terms}.

thanks.

ps: congrats, Christine!!

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 04:53:45 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**stumbles into the room**

Update on my car: we got the brakes done and sorta bled. No further damage occurred to it, but I'm still taking it to a shop to have the brakes bled *completely* tomorrow, while I work. Which means I gotta race home from work to pick up my poor ailing Caddy before the garage closes. :P
As far as my search for parts goes ... it goes not well. Nobody seems to be able to locate these bizarre pieces I need ... though I did find a quote for the quarter panel extension ... a little piece of plastic that ain't even made of four feet of rubber ... and they want $277 FOR IT!!!

**screams, then composes self**

Sorry. but it's stupid, it's a little dinky thing and they want that obscene amount of money for it!

Skippy: Good luck with your fic!

Timedancer premiere ... ooooie ... **vibrates with anticipation of how his eps will be received**

'Toon crushes: I'm not sure if this would even count, but I think it'd be close ... the first crush I can recall on a female character would be Kira from "The Dark Crystal." So much so that when the remastered version came out on video, I leaped on it!! :)
After that, my TV crush? No question ... a few months back someone mentioned Silverhawks, and **blushes** I confess, I crushed on Steelheart. :)

Warpmind and Gside, re: La Blue Girl: Could be worse. Could've been "Rei Lan: Orchid Emblem."

And on that note ... **looks down at name link** I'm gonna enter this in the MGC this month. Wish me luck. **jogs out**
Coyote the Bando - [<<-- MGC Entry for March!]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 02:56:19 PM
IP: zzz-209252248216.splitrock.net

Sup people just woke up and am very hungover but still made time to post.Any body watch wrestling?Well if u do u might b interested to know that dean melinko and minnion got in a real fistfight backstage last night!Any way just finished the gargoyles tight rope episode.Is it just me or did it seem kinda longer then the others.It was however a good story and the new 5'o sara is a much needed edition her being sumwhat indifferent about gargoyles kinda gives the story an edge.CRUSH'S ON CARTOON CHARICTERS<<:I think it is a little on the need help chart.I mean they r just drawings however i would b lying if i said i wouldn't like to give maza a good rompin.Or maybe willma flinstone no marg simpson no judy jetson no no no wait....that female smurf was pretty damn hot.Now do u see how crazy that is u might end up like me.DEMONA AND BROOKLYN<<:Demona is most definitly one of the illest charicters in the series.She is a garg u can realy feel 4 alone,scared at the same time brave,bitter to those who would dystroy her{all of humanity}these a charicteristics of humans.For example look at the holocost i am sure at the time the jewish were feeling much like demona.Being prosocuted 4 being different it is bullsh!t.As for brooklyn he is just a gargoyle incarnation of me.He is just plane the garg he ki..diddly..icks ass.However up there with brook has got to be macbeth and xanatos those r 2 kickass villans.There just so intreaging in there methods of mayham.There absolout devils with an once of humanity which makes them deep.Much like magneto to the x-men or ray sha guel to batman just ill like that.By the way what r these RP'S?
JEREMY - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:38:54 PM
IP: nas-2-17.boston.navinet.net

Oh you all are making me blush! :P

Aaron-- that game sounds cool!!!
jenna aka Cairo of Clan SteelClaw
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:54:16 AM
IP: 2cust73.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Aaron wanders in, blowing a noisemaker and throwing confetti.

Yes! The fandom is ruled by the Brooklyn estrogen brigade and the Demona testosterone legion! Mwahahahahaha!

But seriously...

Jenna has a better response then I ever could, but I'll try. I like Demona because, let's face it, who hasn't been where she is? Friendless and alone, persecuted, harboring dreams of revenge... Well, maybe we haven't all been there. I have. I still have days where I wonder if Demona wasn't right about the great mass of humanity. (Present company obviously excluded)

Brooklyn. Of all the heroic characters, I identify the most with Brooklyn. Kinda scrawny, long hair, a bit weird looking (by the standards of his species), and kind of a smart@$$. Likes motorcycles, leather, and loud music. Has awful karma and no luck with females. In short, a guy like me.

(Which, on a side tangent, is why Timedancer disturbs me a bit. Not the show itself, but the effect it has on the main storyline. I'm not ready, at this point in my life, to give up the Brooklyn I know and replace him with an adult who has a mate, a garg beast, and 2.5 hatchlings.) But I'm rambling.

Jenna><<Expect a lot of responses, esp from Aaron and Pist. Don't be worried though- they won't bite>> At least, not much. ;) Oh, and here's a quick rundown on the story behind Age of Wonders. I think you'll see why I like this game.

Long ago, the world is ruled by the Elven court, and peace reigns throughout the land. Then the humans come. The elves, desiring peace, open their lands, and give the humans a place to live in their valley of wonders. Some time passes. The humans get greedy, rise, and massacre most of the elven court. Out of it's remenants come two factions, the Dark Elves, lead by Prince Meander, who vows the destruction of all humanity, and his half-sister, whose name escapes me at the moment, who preaches peace, and inter-species tolerance. Sound kinda familiar?

As you may have guessed, I'm playing as the Dark Elves. It gives me an excuse to sit at my computer and quote Demona. ;)

(I'm told this is preferable to me playing Diablo, which is pretty much a stream of surprised swearing)

GB> The local Archbishop was on tv the other day, telling people it was good to be an organ donor. Has there been a shift in Vatican policy? I figured if anyone would know, you would.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 11:02:54 AM
IP: ppp-173.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Hi ya'll. Tonight marks the third week since one of my fondest dreams died. Don't count on me explaining that. It's rather personal, but I'm feeling melencholic, and I decided to share. (Why did it have to happen on Buffy night? That's what I really want to know.)

Anyway, on to something discussion related:
Crushes on Cartoon characters> Been there, done that. Here's my observation, which applies to other fictitious characters as well. In a long running cartoon, book, or whatever, you get to know the characters better than you know your own friends. You see their hopes, dreams, fears, and all the business of their lives much more clearly than you would if you knew those people personally. Add to that the fact that frequently their lives are visited with more tragedy than the lives of people you know, and you almost can't help but develop some level of compassion for them. From there, it's only a small step to affection. Reletavly few people seem to have crushes on "logo" characters who never have any stories, for instance (Though, that girl on animeondvd.com is a babe).

Lots of characters are idealized in some way, bigger than life, and therefore more admirable. Also, since they're not real, they're a safe outlet for emotions that otherwise leave you vulnerable.

Anyway, the point is that it's not weird (at least not more than anything else the denizens of this room do) to have a crush on a cartoon character. And if anyone says differently, I'll get my girl Jessica Rabbit to hit them on the head with a frying pan. :)

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 09:07:07 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*dances with Alex* YEY!!!....wait, what are we dancing for? :P
Oh! And welcome back! :P

Not much time to post today!

Cartoon crushes> Oh come now, its perfectly natural, I mean, I think we already discused the lack of decent guys in this world! Cartoon crushse are just wishfull thinking or something! :P Personaly I donot think I get cartoon crushes per say, but I do find some characters atractive and feel for them very vividly about the context of their story, but usualy it`s on behalf of their counter part.(like, Why oh why wont Ryoga forget that that silly Akane and get together with Ukyo! They`d look so cute together!!! :P ) Then again, I do get very much into a cartoon, or movie or book for that matter as to practicaly become a certain character(usualy my favorite). Its more entertaining that way!

Oh! Oh! I gotta go! Bye-ee!!! *HUGZ for all!!!*
Caliope
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 07:48:07 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

What´s this? what´s this?!?!?!.......
I´ve been gone a little while I see... ;P

Cartoon crushes: Chibi-Brooklyn!! ..... I agree w/ Sorrow 100% :P
Come on! isn´t he the cutest thing u´ve ever seen!! ;P

Jenna > Wow man! deep thought on the whole Brooklyn & Demona characterization.
"I think also part of his appeal is he is the one that gets smacked around alot by life."
I agree w/ u on that one. I like my fav. characters to be smacked around a lot.... I really don´t know why... (call me silly really ;P)

Time Dancer S3> it´s coming... NO WAY!!!! .... *starts to do a little dance* Come on Caliope! Join me!!!
*dancing w/ Caliope*

Sevarious Jr.> "Yes, ladies, we men are that horny. And shallow."
..... Not that I didn´t think that before... (and for the same reasons u´ve posted, actually some more then that really)
But still, it´s like weird to hear a GUY saying it!....
So maybe if we put really unatrractive cartoon on TV the world would be a better place???
(ok ok,.. put the guns down people!... come on! DOWN!!)

SOROW > oh sweetie!... I didn´t know u were hurt on the head! :(
Me sorry *huggies* u´ll be better soon!

Jenna> "If I were a guy, I'd like ladies of all types."
*LOL* ;D

Ok people.... gotta book it!! <-- so Sailor Venus!! ;D
Alex Destine
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 07:03:56 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

A moment of silence please in honor of the passing of John Colicos. Commander Kor has gone on to Sto'VoKor...

Skippy the Klingon
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 06:31:17 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-19.ultravision.net

*Warpmind walks in, slightly rushed.*

Hullo, guys.

Wilek: Tenth level of Hell? This opens a lot of potential for both the Joyride and the regular RP... :)

*Slaps forehead.*
That's right. Doug, Kit, any other leeches who downloaded Knights of Xentar from me: a small tip: Before facing the bandit leader in Mount Litmus, wander around in the maze, hacking up, skewering and generally killing the monsters there until you get both a DAGGER+1 (From a Minotaur) and a BRONZE SHIELD (From those things with the circular heads). Believe me, it's worth it; the best you get for a while.

Crushes on toons: Um... *Looks over list of female cartoon characters from a wide variety of cartoons.* Um... Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check... checkcheckcheckcheckcheckcheck... Aw, skip it. Needless to say, I'm guilty as charged. But, at least I realize they're just cartoon characters, and any physical affair is unrealistic. At least until I get my TransReality Gate online... :)

Christine: I am aware you haven't sold the audio rights yet. "Yet" quite likely being the significant word. I'm still intending to get myself a copy when it's out. :)

Sharp Tongue: So, you think Demona's bad news? Allow me to mention two names. Christine Morgan. Jericho. And then, go have a word with CrzyDemona.

Wilek again: Well, it seems like a worthy phase five, no? To be set into action after phase four is complete? Of course, this is merely a suggestion of mine. Oh, and I have already chosen my two closest subordinates for the Scandinavian sector; on for regular police authoroties; a moderately sadistic guy with scruples, and the head of the Secret Police, who is a high-ranking psychotic sadist with few ethical limitations. ;) Rather have him with us than against us, youknowwhatImean? ;) As for the Joyride, well, we can try to travel in time at any given time, but I'll give you free hands for a few present-time Joyrides first. :) There is just about nothing that can cause complications.

Gside: You had a crush on La Blue Girl? This from the guy who wondered about women and their attitude toward pornography? Um... you got the whole series on VHS PAL? ;)

Doug: Dude, there is no way I can pay your airfare. I can't even pay my own, the way things are right now. If I hit the Lotto jackpot, maybe... :(

*Blinks at wristwatch.*
Oh, s**t! Gotta run!
*Gone.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 06:22:27 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*strolls into CR whistling a happy tune. (bet you didn't know that cougars could whistle did you?) She sits on a nearby couch, reaches into her bag and pulls out several items. She dons a pair of white gloves and carefully removes the protective cover of a new comic book*

Hi all. It's been an interersting and very wet weekend. SoCal got a lot of rain dumped on us this weekend. Good news for everyone that likes to ski and snowboard, but not so good for people that had damage done by flying debris from the heavy winds, or mudslides from all the water.

The only personal thing I have worth mentioning is that I managed to find a Marvel 1st edition of ElfQuest comic. I was very surprised to find it, and of course snatched it up immediately. I'm hoping that the Pinis make it to the ComicCon again this year. Hopefully I can get them to autograph it for me. =] There were several ElfQuest issues available, so I think I'm going to slowly try to acquire them if I can.

As far as the debates going on regarding politics, abortion, and religion; I'm keeping my muzzle out of this one. My daddy always told me to never enter a battle of wits unarmed! And honey, I'm so seriously unarmed for this battle, I may as well be naked!

Christine> I"m glad to hear that the audio-book lady is showing an interest in your book. Let's play devil's advocate and say she does buy your book. Do you get to have a say in who will do the reading? Would it be you? Does the publisher pick? Who would YOU ultimately like to have do the reading? If I could pick anyone, I'd pick either Keith David or Sean Connery because they both have such rich and sexy voices. If you wanted a female, I'd go with Kathleen Turner. Can you tell I have a thing for husky voices? LOL

Cartoon Characters and Crushes> yes, I liked the Beast in B&B better as the beast rather than human. Thought he was much more appealing. One of my first cartoon crushes that I can remember were on Tigra and Panthor from ThunderCats, and then there were the Biker Mice from Mars..Ooo la la!! *fans self with paw* I truly belive that a human/gargoyle (or human/mutate for that matter) relationship can work. Lord knows it sure as heck won't be easy. Look at all the problems inter-racial couples face these days. Think how much worse it'll be with inter-species. Oy!

Mercord> I know how you feel. No matter how long you have a pet around, they always manage to steal a large part of your heart, more so than anyone that will ever be a part of your life. Each pet always holds a special place in your heart and memories. After time goes by and you heal a little bit, you will be able to get a new pet. Remember the full life your dog has lead. Think of all the fun you've had together. Of how they were the one to listen to all your secrets and never tell them to a soul, or when you cried your tears into their fur. When the time comes, don't hold back, grieve and morn the loss of a good friend. Eventually it does manage to go away. In the meantime, remember that we are all here for you if you ever need a shoulder to lean on. *huggles*

Well folks, time for me to swish my tail up the stairs and into bed. Take care all. Huggles to all.

~Ciao
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 03:15:03 AM
IP: abd1a870.ipt.aol.com

Pistoff: <<Heh, if I ever get rich enough to buy the rights from Disney and adapt my own fanfic series, it'll probably have to be shown on HBO, like Spawn... ;D>> I'd be happy to lend ya the money if I had any. But one condition: I'd have to be a director and co-screenwriter.

Tim P.
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 02:54:15 AM
IP: s6-onawa.pionet.net

TimeDancer- So it will probably begin on the 20th. On the day of my final. Well I'll probably need some good new on that day.

Sorow-Good to see that your doing alright. I've had a few "head problems" when I was younger. I've been kicked in the head by a horse when he reared up because he didn't like the food I gave him; and I slipped and fell on a big wet rock at a beach once, they get really hard when the waves smooth them out. I don't remember having trouble reading, but I do remember being really tired.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 02:22:32 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

**LONG RP HERE- WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. :)**

In the Avatar's hangar, the last of the Diallou mentality cops (cyber cookie goes to Jaden) has been eliminated by a spellburst from Lathrop, while all but four of the Hollywood Ten have been eliminated by some other hero of the story. Nicole Kidman, one of those remaining, is too distracted by her grief over the death of Tom Cruise to notice Stephanie's sword cutting her head off. The Ravens all immediately turn as a small Quickening erupts in the immediate area. "What?" Stephanie drops her jaw as she recovers from it. "Nicole Kidman was immortal? No wonder seeing her always gave me a headache!" "Well, you have a little more power," Kit rolls her eyes. "Congrats." "Thanks," Stephanie grins. "Uh, by the way, emphasis on little. Kidman had to be the weakest immortal I've ever taken out, I barely felt that Quickening." "Relax," Jammer tells her. "At least it wasn't Dark." Doug smiles at the joke and looks around, seeing that the battle is just about over now that only three bad guys remain- Tom Hanks, Tom Hayden, and David Geffen (people, please remember, these guys are around, someone has to kill them!). The first of these is shooting his way through a group of Avatar stormtroopers also firing at him while Kari and SJ watch nervously, while the other two are deeply involved in conflict with Green Baron's scouts. "Uh, Doug," Keith says, "these guys' reinforcement machine seems to be on the blink now. Either that or they're out of replacements. I think our friends can handle the rest, and we've already expended much of the energy we were going to use on Asil fighting them. Can we withdraw for a few hours, and rest up again? Maybe by the time we're done, this will all be over." "Sounds like a good idea," Doug shrugs. "Hold on!" yells Tricia. "Do we really want to leave our friends without our aid?" "We might have to!" Shap shouts, running up with Shauna and a pair of unusual creatures behind him. "These guys just showed up and delivered some disturbing news." Doug and Kit frown and turn to face the creatures, a griffon-like mutate and a golden humanoid that resembles Mewtwo of Pokemon fame. "Greetings," the former says. "I am Grifix, a friend of a friend of your friend Wilek Nereus. Wilek told me I should come to see you regarding someone known as Asil." "Asil?" Kit asks. "What do you know about her?" "She is in Los Angeles," Grifix replies, watching as most of the Ravens gather hesitantly around him while Gubio and Tom look down from the still-transformed Onslaught's controls. "My master lives there," Grifix goes on. "Through his resources he has been monitoring her. Recently he discovered that she is planning an attack on a building very important to the United States media. Mewthree and I were set to this station to gather allies to stop her, as she has acquired some rather dangerous assistants, and we cannot handle her on our own." "Well, we'll of course be glad to help you," Doug replies. "By the way, do you know when she's planning this attack?" "Sadly yes," Grifix nods. "I believe she may be preparing to carry it out even as we speak."

**PAUSE RP**

Hi everyone. Well, for me right now this week doesn't look like it'll be that great. There will be no new Buffy episodes during it (sigh!), nor have there been any new ones of other shows I like such as Ally McBeal, Martial Law, Simpsons, or X-Files. :( Timedancer I'm glad will soon be having new episodes, but since it isn't happening this week, I still have to go through the trials of anticipation. :) On top of that, in my classes this week is the last week before spring break. Which means it's when I get handed a lot of midterms, big homework assignments, etc. :( And of course, this Friday happens to be my sister's 18th birthday, a joyous occasion which shall require the hassle of delivering much love and possibly an expensive gift or two to her on my part. :) Right now, I'm pretty sure I can handle it all. Not completely sure, of course, the hassles do sometimes feel overwhelming. But it will all be easier once they're done. <grin>

Thanks to all who wished me a happy birthday last week, I really appreciated it. For those who care, I of course celebrated with a very fun party at which all my friends were present and there was much dancing, singing, kissing (some girls around here believe in birthday kisses as opposed to birthday spankings, believe it or not, and I just happen to know two of them :), eating of cake, drinking of soda, exchanging of good wishes, and presentation of gifts. Kit gave me a couple good movies- my favorite James Bond story Licence to Kill and the Director's Cut of Army of Darkness (which unfortunately proved less enjoyable than the edited version, just as with Blade Runner <sigh>), and I also got a bunch of great CDs, some nice books, a couple new videogames I'll probably never have time to play, and a few new pieces of clothing. Mom and the rest of the family of course showed up on Friday for their obligatory visit and came bearing a few more gifts, mostly housewares they ended up having wasted money on because they found out I didn't need them (one of the unfortunate hassles of keeping gifts secrets). I didn't get the gift I most wanted (a car), but hey, I guess I can live with that. :) All in all, it was a pretty good birthday, and I'm glad to be 21, even if I don't feel that much different (although for some reason I am currently feeling more self-confident, tired, and giddy than I was before, could be old age. :) Thanks again for all the good wishes y'all gave me and the gifts (even if I didn't particularly care for some of them. SJ, next time I have a birthday, remember I don't like Mini-Me. Some cute girl jumping out of the cake would be much more appreciated.), I hope you all know that having friends like you is one of the best gifts anyone could receive. :)

Fanfic Progress: Have come a bit farther on Elysium. Some very emotional scenes involving Matt, Nikki, and Lex (who are minor characters in the story but still involved) have just been completed and tomorrow I write the big shocker scene of the story. The first of a pair of scenes that set off major changes and effects for nearly all characters involved in "Elysium," and in my ficverse. Some people are not going to survive the effects, others will suffer great emotional traumas even if they do. With that teaser in place, I now go on to replies. :)

Sharp-Tongued: Hmm, your comments about men vs. women and Brooklyn & Demona being unworthy of our praise would be interesting if they weren't so biased and familiar-sounding. <no offense meant, of course> Not sure how I should respond to them, since I have issues with both. However, you've already apologized for the first of these after others have responded to you with words I would probably be repeating (thanks Lexy and Kai!), and Jenna has already given my response to the other in a better way than I ever could. :) Therefore, I guess I'll say nothing on either. Except I will note that personally I like characters such as Brooklyn and Demona more than ones such as Goliath and Elisa not only for the reasons Jenna mentioned, but also because they seem more able to grow and change in more than one way. No offense to Goliath and Elisa or their fans, but it's always seemed to me that the only way they can develop is in more exploration of their feelings for one another and those whom they live with, or in deciding news ways for how they're going to do their protection jobs (or respond to new methods one or the other introduces, such as in eps like Protection and Deadly Force). Demona, Brooklyn, and others just seem to have more emotional potential in my mind. <shrugs> Maybe that's just the way I look at things. Lex has more development potential than anyone else IMO due to the way he generally reacts to things, but he is also one of the most underdeveloped characters in quite a number of ficverses, including my own. :( Oh well, I really don't have much to say about this. I haven't thought very in-depth about development and potential for Gargs characters outside what's going to happen with them in my stories (and that doesn't really count, since we're discussing their development and potential in Gargs and TGS, right?). I'm sure someone else will be able to pick things up and answer better than I can, as Jenna already has. :) So I'll just get on to the next topic. BTW, welcome to the CR.

Warpmind: Kit as bouncer for G2K? <gulps> That oughta make some unruly jerks worried. :) Tell you what, you pay our airfare and we'll do it, friend. Otherwise, it looks like we won't be going to the Gathering this year with the current state of our finances. <sighs> Even with three months' (so far) of free electricity thanks to that mysterious credit application at the start of 2000, our budget is still stretched pretty thin. :(

Cyborg: Thanks for your understanding, and the good wishes. I give you the same, and also hope that more good things soon start happening in your life. Getting involved in things here is probably a good start. :)

Scott: I'll read your new fanfic soon, thanks for the plug of it. Thanks also for that info on the South Park award song last week, I continue to hope it shall win as it deserves to. (And also that Billy Crystal doesn't make any dumb jokes about it and thus somewhat ruin his usually very enjoyable Oscar host routine.)

Shadowrider: Yep, one thing I definitely have is perseverance. Writers need that. :) And I will surely never forget Master Linnet and the things he taught me even though it has been many years since I last saw the guy. I too am grateful I encountered such a good teacher, even if it was only for a short time. I wonder what he's doing now. :)

Silverstar: I definitely think a gargoyle and human could fall in love with each other, if they were so inclined. :) Depends on the individuals, of course, for some I'd be more willing to believe it than for others. But in general, I do believe that it could happy with an appropriately emotional, mutually tolerant, and like-minded pair such as Goliath and Elisa or (from Christine Morgan's stories) Aiden and Lex.
Cartoon Crushes: I've had several too. :) First was on Teela of He-Man fame. Then Jinx from GI Joe, Angela (this crush is probably frequent among Gargs fans), and Felicia Hardy of Fox's Spiderman. Other cartoon heroines I've liked, but not nearly as much as I have these. And of course, my liking of them has somewhat influenced the qualities I looked for in an RL crush/lifemate, but that's a story for another day. :)

Christine: Good luck with that audio book deal, I hope it goes through. And not just cause you really deserve a break. :) Good job on the latest King of Hothar installment (the only part of the new Sabledrake magazine I've had time to read so far), I'm continuing to enjoy how you're developing the characters. :) Speaking of characters, I will soon be sending you an e-mail asking to borrow some for Night of the Symbiotes (the big two-parter I have coming after Elysium). I'll keep you in suspense about who for now, but you can probably guess it will be the usuals. :)

SOROW: Congrats on surviving the head trauma, sorry I didn't say so before. I am of course very glad you seem over it now, and hope that no more ill effects of it crop up for you. Until we're sure it's over, despite your assurances, you will remain in Kit's and my prayers. :) Hope Joe is soon feeling less depressed as well, and like Kit I am of course also praying for your friend.

Spacebabie: I love the fair too, glad it will be coming here soon. Hope they have new rides and videogames this time around. Also hope your foot soon feels better. <reads pregnancy post and mutters> Like I say to Firestorm below, those unfortunate children are in my prayers.

Firestorm: Thanks for the clarification, glad I can agree with you now. :) Thanks also for informing me about what kind of people that kid's parents were before the media. I was of course distressed at the knowledge and have as a result increased the level of my prayers for that kid and other children suffering under dysfunctional, irresponsible, and downright stupid parents around the globe. Of course, my faith unfortunately does undergo a brief crisis whenever I hear about another. <sighs>

Big Debates of Last Week: <sighs> Here we go.
Political Stuff: Bad news, Bush Supporters. The way things are looking now, the election is gonna be him vs. Al Bore. Neither of whom I'm particularly inclined to vote for. <sighs> I bet I and a lot of other people are probably gonna be staying out of the election this year just because no candidates we like are running, and even with the Internet we can't get together and find one whom we can fully support. :( Makes one glad they don't know much about politics and intend to stay out, doesn't it? :( Oh well.
Abortion: Staying out of this one, enough has already been said. On the issue itself, if anyone cares, I agree with Kaioto, Patrick, Mara, and Kit.

Thanks to Kyryn for the Timedancer Season 3 info and to Robby for the teaser. Like I said above I will be greatly anticipating the new episodes. :)

Pistoff: Thanks for the .arj site, too bad it came a little late for immediate need. :( Oh well, I'm sure I can use the program in the future. :)

Green Baron: Pretty good political column last week, thanks for posting the link to it. Not sure who I would pick for my Supreme Court, I don't know as much about politics as a lot of other people. However, if I could choose anyone, I'd fill it with Kaioto, Jenna, Pistoff, you, Jammer's favorite law professor Dr. Kruger, my stepfather, my high school's principal, her assistant principal, and my American History Professor from last year. These people are some of the smartest I've met in my lifetime, and I personally think that they (the CR ones especially) know real world politics a lot better than the judges currently in office and other officials (though, as I've said, I could be wrong, I don't know nearly as much about politics as I should). I would probably make you Chief Justice, as you're the one who seems most able to mediate out of all of them. Personally, though, I hope I never have to make such an important choice for which I am so ill-suited. :)

SJ: Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft, huh? Well, I guess I can see that. Even though an actress of her caliber deserves roles with more brains behind them, IMO. <sighs> Oh well, I guess as long as she brings realism to the part along with good acting (and isn't forced to stuff herself to fill out the role and then has her boobs come loose in the middle of acrobatics), I guess she could be a good choice. :)

Wilek: Thanks for the Hell info link. Glad to know they still have room down there (though of course I do hope some of it isn't for me :). $ I hope you don't mind me using your long-forgotten characters from Los Angeles in this post's RP, hope I can do justice to them in the time ahead. Also- note to all RP players- I hope you can handle the remainder of the Hollywood Ten alone. The Ravens, Kit, and me have another situation we have to go take care of, as detailed below. $

Okay, that's about everything for tonight. I guess I'll be going to bed now. Wish me luck in all my various hassles, people. I'll continue to hope I can get through them. See you next time.

**CONTINUE RP**

"Yes," Grifix nods as the Ravens all look at him with a mixture of shock and disbelief. "My information is correct. Of that you can be sure. That is why I need your help immediately. My master, Solomon Brand, does not want our mutual enemy Asil to succeed in her designs, nor I am sure, does the rest of your planet." "And we don't either," Erin says. "That's why you need our help, right?" Grifix smiles. "Exactly. My shuttle is parked nearby in this hangar, it can easily and rapidly transport all of us down to face Asil in Los Angeles. I know you have all just come through a series of devestating battles and are not exactly prepared for another, but the situation is urgent. Wilek told me you're the ones best able to help. Will you come?" "You don't even need to ask, pal," Kit replies, holstering her weapon and wiping sweat from her brow as she gives him a look of determination. "Just show us to the shuttle." The other Ravens nod in agreement, all commenting that they will be glad to assist, since they are sworn to protect Earth, Asil is an enemy, and many of them are certain that whatever she is up to has to be part of Thailog's grand design, which they must continue to thwart. Grifix nods as each of them tells him so and says, "I thank you all, as I'm sure your planet will also." "No need," Doug says. "Let's just hurry on now. Later there will be plenty of time for thanks." The griffon mutate nods in agreement and then waves them to follow him across the hangar. "You can leave your mech behind, by the way," he says. "It probably won't be needed since you'll have my master's resources at your disposal as well as yours." "Just in case," Gubio replies, transforming the Onslaught's cab back to normal. He and Tom then hop out of it and Lathrop uses a spell to shrink the truck to pocket size so it can be easily transported (it can of course be enlarged again later). Grifix smiles with marvel as the deed is done, and then waves the Ravens to follow him to the shuttle once more. Soon it has taken off and is headed for Los Angeles, two fighter transports full of Avatar stormtroopers flanking it as escort. Wilek is also on board the shuttle with the Ravens, and he assures the few doubters among them that Grifix and his master are on their side. "Good," Keith says. "I want to meet his master and talk with him some just in case, but for now I think I can accept that." Wilek smiles as the others nod that they can as well. They draw closer to Los Angeles (which is now erupting with many simultaneous cataclysms, the results of which are inadvertently hampering Asil and will be detailed in the next RP bit) as the screen's image fades out.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 02:16:42 AM
IP: pool-209-138-205-223-dlls.grid.net

Shadowrider> Dune: Yep, read the series, mostly when I was on St. Thomas (the island). Just sitting on the beach in the shade, reading... Of course a tropical climate isn't quite the right place to read the Dune books, but still...

Revel> <<a prequal came out not too long ago written by Frank Herbert's son>>: Yeah, House Atridies (spelling?), probably similar to C. Tolkien's efforts.

Robby> <<We're TRYING for a release next week peoples, no guarantee though>>: Don't worry, we believe in you.

Silverstar> <<chinese menu version>>: You mean Combo #5? That was rather popular around here, probably since half the campus sounds like that normally.

Cartoon crushes: Does La Blue Girl count? Oh, wait, no, that's something else...

Infinity> mp3s: You might want to try www.2look4.com, search.mp3.de, www.mp3meta.com, or and mp3.lycos.com. All of these are search engines, although lately, I haven't been looking myself, my roomies are approaching a collection of all music ever published, so I can steal from them (imagine 650 megs of solid Metallica. We have a CD like that, 10 hours striaght). Or, you could just keep watching my directory for bi-weekly updates.

Jenna> <>: Not if you saw me.

Wilek> <<Which itself [47] may be a sci-fi reference>>: Nope, that's 42. And the combination of the answer and the question prove the fundamental assymetry of the universe (I did figure that out myself).
<>: Don't Panic, I assure you I will get to it, sun just worked better for subsequent logical steps.
<<the only thing I really like about Croft is the accent (although she has nice eyes)...>>: Uh, yeah, sure, we believe you...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 01:28:45 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

remember when we were all {okay: most/some of you} were discussing the slenderness vs thickness of gargoyles?

well, tonight i will post {i hope} part one of a new story. the new character's pretty chunky. here's a clue as to how much: her name's Hoplite. {yes, greek}.

okay, have fun. {OR ELSE}!

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:30:06 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Warpmind> <> Ah. For some reason I prefer ZSNES. Probably because of the cheat function, and the fact that SNES9X barely works on my system... O_o <<Wilek, this looks like something for phase Five of the Nereus Project, eh?>> <blink> There's a phase five? Intriguing... :) <<my brow was raised at Wilek and Xanathar, why, as far as I can tell, post about daily.>> I'm not sure why I haven't done any lately...I guess there's no one toward whom I'm particularly homicidally disposed just at the moment...that, and I got the impression that you have plans that my intervention might interfere with. ;)

Rodlox> <<actually {if memory serves}, the Mayans and Aztecs {and the folks who lived around them and then} had 13 levels of - well, the punishment-place....and seven of - well, the better place.>> I think so as well (The Journeyman Project 2--entertaining and educational); the article dealt with Dante's version. :)

Shadowrider> <<"Fleeting Encounters" was full of them, but I can remember others...for example, in "Buccaneer", there's a scene where Sata stuns a soldier with a grip on the neck. Brookyl sees that and says "Live long and prosper".>> Wow...I hadn't noticed that. I'll have to read that one again. ^_^

Mecord> <<When we returned we found that our golden cocker spaniel was in bad shape. We got him as a puppy when I was about four years old. He was raised by our two cats and when those cats were gone, he raised four kittens. In dog years our spaniel is about 133 yrs. old. Right now he can’t even lift his head to drink water.>> Oh no! :( I hope the poor thing isn't as bad off as he seems...

Robby> <> Which itself may be a sci-fi reference. ;)

Crushes on cartoons> Never had a crush, per se, on anyone, animated or otherwise, although I was once in the habit of worshipping/admiring/looking up to some TV/movie/video game characters (the only ones I can think of offhand are Lord Dread and Ursula, and there were undoubtedly others)...

Sharp-tounge'ed> <<What does that make Brooklyn then? Hmmm? Demona, an absolute witch is a favorite character, and so is Brooklyn... Hmm?>> Just because they're in similar places on whatever list this is, doesn't make them similar to each other...

Infinity> <<Speaking of world domination, have you ever considered using computer viruses? This has always been one of my favorite theories. Since the world is practically run by computers all a potential subjugator would need do is engineer a computer virus so nasty it would scramble all the computer operated equipment in the world. Think of it; cars, planes, digital watches, not to mention nuclear reactors would all be neutralized! Utter chaos!>> Interesting idea...although I'd probably rather make it a covert control program rather than a virus; otherwise things might get too out of hand to control. ;) <<Only songs I've ever heard by TMBG are Particle Man and Istanbul.>> Me too; I heard those on Tiny Toon Adventures. ;) I rather like those; especially Istanbul. (Hey, doesn't Particle Man sound like the name for a robot boss from Mega Man? :P ) <<What're some of the best places to download free MP3's? I finally downloaded a RealJukebox for my computer last weekend and so far only have three songs for it.>> Check out http://surf.to/fmc and http://www.gamingforce.com/audio; they have some *great* stuff. :)

SJ> <<So what she doesn't speak with a British accent. Just strap on a pair of them hiking shorts! ;)>> Kinda disappointing, actually; the only thing I really like about Croft is the accent (although she has nice eyes)...

SOROW> <> <whew> Glad to hear it. :) <> The Evil Ninjas from The Pack? ;)

GB> <<Thanks to some new test, I did not get a job I had a good shot at getting. It's something called the REID test. Do any of you know about it?>> Ack. Never heard of this... <<Maybe Wilek can move the Vatican New Orleans. If you don't like the Pope, I'll take him :)>> Interesting idea. :) I wonder...<has some random lackey measure GB for a big pointy pope hat>
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:25:12 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

GB- sorry to hear about the job thing. :( I don't know what that test is, though. But I know that feeling.

First cartoon crush- don't laugh- Justin of Rats of NIMH. Very dashing--And what gargoyle male wasn't gorgous by any standards- I must say, I do like the idea of men walking around in loincloths- :)
jenna
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:20:29 AM
IP: 1cust219.tnt4.hou3.da.uu.net

Not enough new info for RPs.

Shadowrider> It wouldn't botehr me if Cromwell was harsh now, but good then, since I have soemthing of a fondness for Attila the Hun, which si odd for most people. I just personally views him as the anti-Christ, along with Ian Paisley.

SJ> Well, my girls got Slick Willie's wife. But let's wait until January, or Gore becomes President :(

Jewel> I heard New York ahs no Community Property laws regarding divorce. Smart move that Bill encourage his wife to run for the Senate up there :)

WB Zath

Joe> I hope you enjoy my hometown :)

Bad News> Thanks to some new test, I did not get a job I had a good shot at getting. It's something called the REID test. Do any of you know about it?

The Pope> Well, he's a human being so he's not perfect, but I doubt there is any secular or religiosu leader who is better than he is. I remain a staunch supporter and admirer of him and if he does soemthing I don't like, I'll just chalk it up to a bad underling.

Shadowrider> Maybe Wilek can move the Vatican New Orleans. If you don't like the Pope, I'll take him :)

Skippy> Well, even some mainstream religions are not above the fray. The National Council of Churches is always trying to throw its weight around. Still, I reject simplistic worship and lack of Organization. If something ever caused me to leave Catholicism, I would worship nothing at all, since my Universe would be shattered and everything I believe gone.

Pistoff> Welcome Back.How about G. Gordon Liddy for Pres? PLus there's always Lyndon La Rouche :)

SOROW> You actually like that song? I'm gald you're feeling better. You can spank all those March people soon :)

Spring Break> Since Mardi Gras is so late, it coincides with Mardi Gras and Easter break will be cut short. I will spend mine studying.

Cartoon characters and crushes> ummm....Angela :)

Sharp-tong'd> While abortion can be discussed civilly, talk of Demona and Brooklyn can lead to flamewars :) I personally wished more girls liked Vogel. It would give me a shot :)

Henry Rollins> How about Ed Rollins for Pres? Better yet, William F. Buckley. When he ran for Mayor of NYC, he said the first thing he'd do when he won was demand a recount :)

With the Elections all about. Here's a question. Who would you appoint to the Supreme Court? SJ, Coyote, Jewel, and Kaioto are strongly encouraged to answer this :) Other are just encouraged :)

For my nine, I'd want balance..
Liberals> Alan Dershowitz and Arlen Specter
Conservatives> Ann Coulter and Oorin Hatch
Swing judges> Chris Darden, Peter King, Fred Dalton Thomspon, Ed Koch, and Judge Judy :)

Happy Mardi Gras!!!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:14:39 AM
IP: usr57-dialup195.mix2.atlanta.cw.net

OOps! Hope I just didn't put my talon in my mouth! :P Don't read too much into it, everyone! :P
jenna
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:04:54 AM
IP: 3cust74.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Sorow- If I were a guy, I'd like ladies of all types- :P
jenna
Tuesday, March 7, 2000 12:02:36 AM
IP: 3cust74.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

<------- Sharp tongue'ed> I'm sorry that I have to disagree, but this guy right here is "dead sexy! Get in my belly!" hhhheeeehhhhhheeeee

Wilek, Jaden, Aaron, Infinity, & others> Thanks for the prayers, but I really am going to be fine. If there actually is something wrong inside of my skull, then I probably wouldn't know about it unless I drop down dead. But I was 'born under a lucky star', so that probably won't happen :)

Wilek> I don't think my family can afford x-rays. Even though my mom is a medical lab tech, I most likely won't get x-rays cause I don't seem to be showing any signs of head damage. Except that dent of course ;) I seem to be able to read fine now.

Jenna> Wise words about your character analysis, I agree totally. Oh, some bad news... I guess you won't like me cause I look skinny and frail. But it's not my fault! I get called Ally McBeal a lot.

Zath> I just bought a Gargoyles lunchbox last month from my grocery store. It rocks! I still don't understand the random ninja guys on the thermos though :)

silverstar> Thanks. Everytime I hear that song I think of those names instead.
SOROW
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:53:35 PM
IP: dll2a030-0675.splitrock.net

Time for the weekly "Not dead...yet!" post!

Entertainment Stuff!!!!
Good news Tomb Raider fans! The frequently delayed major motion picture is currently again on the front burners, and word out now is that Angelina Jolie (that's Jon Voight's kooky daughter, dontcha know) is close to signing on as uberbabe Lara Croft. So what she doesn't speak with a British accent. Just strap on a pair of them hiking shorts! ;)

Breasts of Steel: That old Wonder Woman movie rumor has popped up again. A new name has been added to the list of potential wonder females, though--Shannen Elizabeth. I'm sure many of the men in the room are familiar with her, but for those not in the know she's played the foreign exchange student in "American Pie". The very naughty foreign exchange student. And she's done some other stuff like pose in Maxim magazine....and pose in Playboy....she's posed in quite a few things I'd can imagine. :\

An update on the whole Kevin Smith Disney screwing: It looks as if the culprit is finally discovered, and it's name is Regis Philbin. Well, not Regis personally, but that dopey gameshow of his, "Who Wants to Watch Some Schmuck Answer a Dozen Easy Questions". Kevin's "Clerks" animated show was set to debut this month, but has been pushed back to the summer. Kevin, of course, wasn't happy, so he reamed Disney a new one. Well, somebody in the Disney offices shot back a rather scathing memo. To read it, and to check out Kevin's rebuttal to the memo, go to viewaskew.com (or just click on my name).

Crushes on Cartoons: I've had one before (personally, my dream girl would be Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo ;). It's kind of....disturbing, if you think about it....but it's not that bizarre, if you ask me. After all, most cartoons (or if you want to include them, comic books--which is the best example of how to draw the unrealistic female form) are probably drawn by men. And men want some nice curves added to their female toons, even if its something as innocent as, say, Scooby Doo (And as the illustrious Mrs. Morgan has shown us, there was probably a little more than sleuthing going on in the Mystery Machine ;) Who wants to draw a "realistic" woman when you can have Batgirl walk around with a waist as thin as a broom handle and a 36C bust? Yes, ladies, we men are that horny. And shallow. Even our cartoons must be all sexed up. Most non-fuzzy cartoons are...shall we say, "meant to please". So I guess crushes on these nonreal representations of the perfect female (or male!) form are a natural process, even it the crush itself is sort of an inherently unnatural thing.

Joe Boxer: You got to see Incubus? Damn I envy you! They're currently the band I'm really into. I love their latest album, and I just ordered S.C.I.E.N.C.E. First time I heard "Pardon Me" was on my local rock station's "new music mart", and I must have played it a dozen times a day for a good two weeks. I'd love to catch them live!

Jewel: Yes, you would probably be right in saying that Republicans would jump at the chance to insert their own personal agenda into a tragedy like this shooting of a 6 yr. old. The point is, Clinton DID do it. He had the opportunity to not do it, but he did. And that pisses me off. If somebody like Bush or McCain did the same thing, I can honestly tell you that I'd be pissed off at them as well. Some bad crap like that goes down, you offer condolences, and that's all. No matter what party you belong to.
Yeah, to be honest, I guess Clinton does disgust me. Ninety-nine percent of our elected officials disgust me. I don't even know why I get involved with politics, cause I'm just going to wind up pissed off about who gets elected anyway. You know what politics really is? A neverending circle jerk. Same breed of schmuck every time. It's why a goddamn wrestler got nominated as a governor--people were so damn tired of the same old crap, they voted in a freakin' wrestler. Hell, at this point Pistoff's suggestion of Henry Rollins sounds good to me. At least Henry would be an entertaining president. You disagree with him, he kicks your ass.
Maybe I'm just going through my own little anarchy phase...
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:45:57 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Greetings

I can't believe that It's been almost a month since I last posted. I haven't had time to check up on the archive so this will be brief.

Time Dancer S3: Yes!!! Oh how long I have waited for this day. Actually I think its only been about 8 months.

Jeremy: The top ten refers to the first ten posts when they clear the CR. At least that's what I have been able to gleen from the posts.

For anyone who cares you have until the 10th of March to apply for the April 15 MCAT. If you plan to apply to med school for Fall 2001 you better get going. (Yes, for anyone who has read my earlier posts, I am trying for med school in addition to my current graduate studies.)
Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:30:04 PM
IP: dialin7.kitchener.globalserve.net

Yeppers, me again-

Skinnyness- I think there is such a thing as too skinny- I have always felt that everyone looks better with some meat one them- women esp. Alley McBeal types are too thin for me- they look unhealthy and frail.

BTW,There is an old quote from Mexico that I know:
"Bones are for the dog. Meat is for the man." Needless to say, I like that saying :P
jenna
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:28:14 PM
IP: 3cust236.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Hey there Pist! Good to see you!!! Shot you an em!! ^_^

Aaron- that game sounds interestings.

jenna again
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:19:19 PM
IP: 3cust236.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

Sharped tounged-- ** Jenna laughs gently a bit to self** boy did you just open a whole Pandora's box- :P Expect a lot of responses, esp from Aaron and Pist. Don't be worried though- they won't bite

As for why Demona is favored- hmm. Probally because of her complexity. She is much more than simply a B*tch. And this is from someone who isn't a huge Demona fan. I think there are many levels of complexity to her- there is the part of Angel in her that is struggling to get out- that is damned by her own actions. I like that drama in any story- it intrests me. I remember I was moved to tears when Greg showed the pitch for Dark Ages that showed a vuleranable Angel- The way she is so plauged by fear and hatred- that's lets' face it are more easy too give into than not; really stuck a core with me.

There is also a definate chord of lonliness with that character- remember the password in "City of Stone"? That really adds a tragic element to her- she is immortal- something most people dream of, but she is alone. She will always be alone. She has damned herself, and deep down she knows it.

She has a lot of psycological complexity. One thing that I have noticed is her deep denial that she will outlive everyone - even Angela whom she holds so dear. Greg said she would find a "great love" and as I don't think it's Macbeth- chances are that whomever it is is mortal- so she will outlive him as well- I wonder how this sits with her- knowing that the parting is inevitable- so in a way, she is damned to the worst of fates.

But that doesn't mean I excuse her actions- or say they aren't as bad because of the pain and lonieness from which they spring. I don't think Gargoyles was created with that type of thinking- remeber Greg said Gargs was about reprocussions- and she has them in spades. She can never have Goliath again. Never. Period.

AS for Brooklyn- I like him. And not because he is a "bad boy" -- there is of course the rebelliouness of youth that is so charming, but there is more to him than that- there is intelligence, for one. Remeber in "the journey" he was quoting the bard, so he oviously knows some of his works.

I think also part of his appeal is he is the one that gets smacked around alot by life- and yet he preseveres. He thrives inspite of it- he gets rejected several times, but rather than collapse in self destructive pity- he tries again. Lifes a B**** for Brooklyn, but that doesn't mean he's given up.

Plus a part of his appeal is his smart aleckness- it takes a certian cleverness to come up with snappy remarks.

And he posesses vulnerabity and a gentle side under the hard exterior. He cares about his clan first, and not #1. He can be hurt, deeply.

Some of the most intersting characters are not ones you would want to emulate in life. I for one like the amoral Xanatos and Thailog, but I don't think I would want to be married to either one, and I think I wouldn't want to be like them either. (Even though in my story the latter becomes allied to the clan, similar to Xanatos in the series). Same with Delilah- I feel compelled to her, but that doesn't mean I want to be like her. Her relationship with Thailog is unhealthy at best, but I am able to see that and still enjoy the story. A fanfic "Perfect companion" is written out there that hits the realtionship dead on- it's not a healhy relationship, and certianly not a PC one, but it is nonetheless interesting.

I'm not saying we should embrace least common demonator, or things that are sadistic or foul. I would be worried about someone who admired Hannibal Lector for example, and I'm talking pure admiration here- without the chill down the spine. But literature and great stories are filled with characters who are flawed- they are interesting.

I think one of the reasons some pass Goliath and Elisa over is that they see them as less intersting. But Neither one of them are perfect, though they are certianly more positive than Demona. Plus I think any story about love conquering the fates, rather than the other way round, to be very intersting, indeed.

Jenna aka Cairo of Clan SteelClaw
Monday, March 6, 2000 11:18:08 PM
IP: 3cust236.tnt1.hou3.da.uu.net

<deactivates cloaking device>

Hi everybody! It's been a loooong time since I've posted in here so I've got some catchin up to do.

SOROW; Glad your feeling better! Can't imagine how your head must've felt a few weeks ago. (shudders)

Pistoff: Welcome back! And I have to agree with you that being skinny does have it's downside but that doesn't make a person uninteresting. I've always been able to see my ribcage but I don't let it bug me. Least I know I have the correct number of ribs. j/k

Poll: Put me down as a mutate. I'd like the ability to be able to shoot electricity as in the show plus I'd like the advantage of not having to sleep during the day.

Wilek: Speaking of world domination, have you ever considered using computer viruses? This has always been one of my favorite theories. Since the world is practically run by computers all a potential subjugator would need do is engineer a computer virus so nasty it would scramble all the computer operated equipment in the world. Think of it; cars, planes, digital watches, not to mention nuclear reactors would all be neutralized! Utter chaos! Of course you would need to tell your loyal retainers (us) how to counteract the virus so that when the dust settles we can come forward and demand that all the world's leaders swear fealty if they want their precious power turned back on. Sort of like the end of Escape from L.A. where Snake Plesken (sp?) shuts down the earth. Whaddaya think?

Guide: sings; "The sun is a mass of incandescent gas..." Hehe. Never heard that one. Only songs I've ever heard by TMBG are Particle Man and Istanbul. What're some of the best places to download free MP3's? I finally downloaded a RealJukebox for my computer last weekend and so far only have three songs for it.
<Anybody know if there will be new Buffy and Angel eps. tomorrow? I just started watching those show a couple weeks ago because of all the comments in here and I gotta say: not bad! Can't wait to see Buffy take on Adam, partly because I don't think she can beat him. Least not without some serious firepower.

Adios!
Infinity
Monday, March 6, 2000 10:55:24 PM
IP: nltc-57-66.nltc.net

First, let me apologize again about my abortion rant. Now...

Crushes on cartoon characters: My first and only crush on a cartoon character is Goliath. Well, I had a TINY crush on Batman on B-man:TAS, but that was short-lived and happened only after I got into Gargoyles. I guess I lost interest in B-man, because he lacked the emotional depth Goliath has.

I still for the life of me don't understand what's so special about Brooklyn. The only thing special about him to me is the way he looks, which does not in any way appeal to me. I don't think he's ugly, but... I do not know. Personality wise I find him to be common-placed, and he lacks emotional depth to me. There's really nothing special about the way he acts. That bad-boy thing bores me now. I used to like it, but my taste has matured quite a bit since then.

Oh, and you pure Brooklyn fans: I would be worried if I were you. I would be quite offended to have him ranked with someone who's morally and mentally deficient like Demona. In fact, I would be down-right offended.
You, know something else that worries me is how people actually LIKE Demona. I mean, that lady's a lying, deceiving, selfish, two-faced, hateful, spiteful _itch, and there really is nothing good about her except her love for Angela. And even that love is less than the love she has for her own hide. That's utterly pitiful, and people actuall LIKE her? I'm sorry, but that's quite unfathomable to me. I couldn't ever like anyone like that or call her a heroine, after all the death, destruction, and grief she caused. She brought every bad thing that happened to on herself, because of her selfishness and hatefulness. The only way I can see anyone liking her is for her PHYSICAL beauty, because, to tell the truth, inside, she just plain HIDEOUS.

Do you know what else is an outrage to me? That DEMONA, was placed above Goliath and Elisa, two very good, people on the favorite character list. It's enough that Brooklyn was placed first above Goliath, the most morally decent person on the show, not that Brooklyn's bad by the way, but to have such an ogre like Demona even considered on the list...
Hey! What does that make Brooklyn then? Hmmm? Demona, an absolute witch is a favorite character, and so is Brooklyn... Hmm? I'm starting to be glad that Brooklyn's not my favorite character because I wouldn't be able to stand having him ranked with someone like Demona.

Sharp-tongue'ed
Monday, March 6, 2000 10:25:38 PM
IP: tcmab102-26.splitrock.net

Crushes on cartoon characters > oh, count me in ... my first big crush was Disney's Robin Hood ... that shortie green tunic, that big bushy tail, that yummy accent ... ::sigh!::

Black Roses > to clarify, I haven't sold the audio rights yet; they just want to see the whole manuscript. Haven't been able to send it yet because first I have to go through and turn all my italics into underlines (their submission guideline) and then print the sucker out again. That's my project for this week.

Other updates > my project for _last_ week was the final revision of the Dark of the Elvenwood manuscript (almost done; I have to hear back from one of the auction winners on a couple more questions).

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 09:20:25 PM
IP: 03-152.009.popsite.net

Hey, guess what I saw on the sale table at the local grocery store... A pair of Gargoyles lunch boxes! Their meat aisle may be scary, but sometimes they nave some interesting non-edible things. I'm half tempted to get one when I go out to get dinner later. Too bad they didn't have any action figures.

I'll hopefully make a post replying to all last week's room later tonight, so until then, bye for now.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 08:14:45 PM
IP: ppp-229-084.usc.edu

*** walks in, no pratically jumps in, the CR***

Hello All!

Don't know why but I have a lot of energy. Maybe it's because I finally got onto the internet. Or because Timedancer is starting soon! (Jumps around yelling WOO HOO)

SOROW> I saw your song. I have heard a lot of versions of that song including a Beast Wars and chinese menu version and yours is the cutest.

Garg/human relation> I want to thank everyone for their veiws on the subject. I think that if you can look past someones' outer apperance and see who they really are, then you have accomplished something that is very open minded and I think deep.

Crushes on cartoons> I would also like to thank everyone who said at one point or another they have had a crush on a cartoon character. I thought that I was one of the few who have had a crush on a character, but with all of you responding to my post saying that you have had a crush on a character, makes me feel NOT so weird. Thanks!

Well that about wraps it up for me. *BYE!*

***bounds out of CR***
silverstar
Monday, March 6, 2000 08:02:35 PM
IP: l3p21.dav.mother.com

That's supposed to be "Hamartia."

D***ed Greek words...
Scott
Monday, March 6, 2000 07:00:38 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

That's supposed to be "Hamartia." D***ed Greek words...
Scott
Monday, March 6, 2000 07:00:04 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

*** FANFIC ALERT ***

Just posted "Resolutions: Harmtia," the first in a new story-arc.

Enjoy. :)

Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Monday, March 6, 2000 06:59:13 PM
IP: 129-2-251-16.student.umd.edu

Robby> Right on!

Skippy> Welcome to being a fic writer. May your stuff move faster then mine.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, March 6, 2000 05:53:51 PM
IP: ppp-133.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Timedancer season three- We're TRYING for a release next week peoples, no guarantee though. The new season may not start until the 20th. We'll see...

Shadowrider- You like Timedancerbecause of all the in-jokes eh? Try going back and re-reading the season two story Trust No Future... I stuffed something like 47 sci-fi references throughout the whole thing... Though a lot of them are so ingrained they're probably impossible to catch... I even snuck in a reference to the Muppet Movie! (I have a personal director's cut that fits in even more stuff and makes some of the others more apparent...)

"Disney being a bunch of cheap asses"- Well, Disney is by no means cheap. Greedy, yes. Appealing to the mass market? Yes. Willing to put out garbage instead of quality to make an extra buck? Yes. Up until recently I still had faith in Disney. But one thing after another has led to me despising them... When they cancelled Gargs, they were sneaky about it and I thought it was only my local station giving me trouble, but it had 78 episodes, good for an animated American series. They released the lousy Pocahontas. I gave them credit for trying something different, and took away credit for so seriously deviating from the original story. (I have no respect about the sequal tho.) They released the lousy Hunchback of Notre Dame which I gave credit for having pretty good animation and a lotta darkness for a "G" rating, but lost respect for over the changed ending. They released Hercules, which while fun in its own way, deviated from the myths so much it wasn't even funny, (and it only got worse with the series.) A Bug's Life didn't have good comedy, story, or animation, the best part of the whole thing was the blooper real. They completely dropped the Disney afternoon, which sucked. Their Saturday Morning lineup sucks still. They royally dissed Mononoke. Tarzan came so close to being great, but the formula with the stupid sidekicks and songs hurt it terribly. Mouseworks, while an interesting idea, kinda is lousy.. THey've gone about rehashing Toy Story over and over.And then... THEN they did the ULMIMATE treason... The released The Tigger Movie. *Shudder* I saw that travesty weeks ago and I'm still trying to recover. And now they release Goofy Movie 2, which the commercials make out to be hideous (Shame since I loved Goof Troop and the first Movie) and they have plans to release a SEQUAL to Hunchback of Notre Dame? Wha? There are other horrors they have committed, but the long and short of it is, outside of Mulan, Quack Pack, and about three episodes of The Mighty Ducks, Disney has not done anything worth my respect for the last 5 years, and in fact, almost everything they do makes me lose it. Shame really.
Robby
Monday, March 6, 2000 05:42:00 PM
IP: spider-tj062.proxy.aol.com

Oh, yeah! Welcome back, Mec! ;) (Sorry I forgot in the last post!)
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 04:43:06 PM
IP: ncia103n.ncia.net

Yeah! Timedancer's going to be back! Yeah! (Does the arm-pumping thing like Arsenio Hall).

Uh...all right. Just had to get that outta my system.
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 04:41:49 PM
IP: ncia103n.ncia.net

**A trans-dimensional portal opens and out steps and elf holding a suitcase.**

Hi, back from Salt Lake City. It was a good trip, the new niece was adorable. When we returned we found that our golden cocker spaniel was in bad shape. We got him as a puppy when I was about four years old. He was raised by our two cats and when those cats were gone, he raised four kittens. In dog years our spaniel is about 133 yrs. old. Right now he can’t even lift his head to drink water. We don’t think he’ll last much longer. Last night my brother came over and the whole family had a good cry.

Sorry, didn’t mean to unload that on everyone, I just needed to get it off my chest.

Jeremy>> The top ten are the first ten poeple to post in the room. If you are one of these you get a prize (just kidding) :)

****Short RP****
Mecord used his inherent control over dimensional portals to send him to his home world. Landing in an exhausted heap, he looked around to see exactly where he had landed. Over his head, neon letters hung in midair. They read “Welcome to the Thieves Guild”. Five men appeared from the mist around Mecord with swords drawn.
****End Short RP****

Mecord Lein
Monday, March 6, 2000 04:34:17 PM
IP: usr32.mtwest.net

Hey will somebody tell me what the topten is?
JEREMY - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:47:29 PM
IP: nas-77-252.boston.navinet.net

Aaron stumbles in, looking bleary-eyed. (Well, moreso then usual)

Found a fairly interesting computer game called The Age of Wonders. It's a Warcraft/Lords of the Realm style game that can be toggled between turn-based movement and RTS. Stayed up way too late playing it, but my people won't wipe out humanity without my help.

SOROW> Glad you're feeling better.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:28:47 PM
IP: ppp-133.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Hey yo it's servay time......if you think disney are a bunch of cheep ass's give me a hell yeah.I just got a new infernal device {computer} and it su...diddly..ucks.That's why i haven't posted{if anyone cares which eveyone certinly does not}.This new fu#%n computer wiped out my favorites list which included gargoyles and i have all types of trouble getting to the site now.Anyway what's everybody rappin about now i realy didn't have time to read the comment page have to go to work soon.All i caught was that disney the funkin morons were not givin gargoyles the reasorces they needed.Personaly i thought gargoyles was the only good thing from them{well maybe the lion king was good}but gargoyles was most definetly the illest.I was thinkin the other day{that's the burning u all caught wiff of}did they ever give a reason for snuffin out the show?I think if we all flooded disney with e-mail they might consider bringing back the series.I mean i like reading the new stories but there's nutin like sit'n back puffin a little sumtin sumtin{know what i mean}gettin lost in the story.Thats how i like it anyway so i am down to give disney hell who's wit me?
JEREMY - [www.hydroholic537@altavista.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:24:37 PM
IP: nas-77-252.boston.navinet.net

YES! Actually, double YES! This is it everybody, the last week before the third and desparetly awaited season of Time Dancer. We're all watching the clock and finishing our mid terms (some of us) getting ready to pack up the "war wagon" (my Bronco II) and get the hell out of Denton. I know you're out there lurking around not saying much, but you know you want to find out what happens next just like the rest of us.
Whew, take a breather. Well things seem to be going well in here, which is good, I need to leave the "sane" world every now and then.
Pissoff- I see you also have Denis Leary's CD.

Christine-Black Rose? Sounds good.

I agree with Shadowrider that Dune is and excellent movie, both the 2 and the 4 hour versions, but the book answers all those little questions we all have about the back ground and if you didn't know a prequal came out not too long ago written by Frank Herbert's son.

Well that's it for now and I think my grandfather said it best when he said, "The only sane people in the world are the ones who have certificates to prove it."
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, March 6, 2000 02:16:47 PM
IP: spider-wd062.proxy.aol.com

Hello, I'm here again after a week-end without connections.
Hope I've not been missed! <grins>
Once again I missed Top Ten @#&]*@ (Next Sunday I'm going to stay awake all night-I have to do it!)

Well, let's go!

Poll:> Well, seems it's not over yet. Thanks to Pistoff for voting. A Terminator-like cyborg? Well, why not? (Wanna keep your own face or you want Arnold's one? ;))
14 Gargoyles
10 Battlesuits
5 Mutates
4 Cyborgs

So, the poll keeps on. Remember, if you wanna vote, I'll keep collecting your opinions.

Gside:> Pope: sorry, I really didn't see the "what he calls" (I have to stop reading in a hurry). Of course, what the Pope calls an "ethical system" is not what I or you call so. BTW, are there in the world two or more persons whose concept of ethic is exactly the same?
Misquoting: don't worry, it happens to mistake a quoting, especially if it is taken from a book we haven't read in a while. Hey, I'm the man who mistook "Brave New World" for "1984" a few days ago, so I know what I'm saying. :-)
Anyway, I liked "Stranger in a Strange Land" a lot (I like Heinlein, my preferred of his books is "Starship Troopers"- no surprise I love battlesuits). I find it very deep and funny at the same time. Have you ever read "Dune"? If not, I suggest it to you-as far as I'm concerned, it's the best sci-fi book never written! (If you have seen Lynch's movie, read the book anyway-the book is FAR better)

Jewel:> I agree with you about th Pope. About your "little problem"...well, you can't keep on going nuts about such a (I don't find the word)!! So, either you summon him in judgement for copyright's violation (I don't know American law, but in Italy everithing you write down by your own, no matter how (on paper, on a HD or in the Net) actually IS your property and none can use it without your explicit permission) or you simply ignore him, filter out his emails and let him do what he wants (I know, it is like surrendering, but it seems to me that keeping on worrying about it is worse.). There's a third choice (mail- bombing him or infecting him with an informatic virus, but maybe it is too drastic...)

Wilek:> One of the reasons I like TimeDancer is that it's full of quotings, time paradoxes and word jokes. "Fleeting Encounters" was full of them, but I can remember others...for example, in "Buccaneer", there's a scene where Sata stuns a soldier with a grip on the neck. Brookyl sees that and says "Live long and prosper". Well, maybe the quoting is old, but I found it very appropriate (I grinned like a fool for a tenth of minutes) .About TimeDancer...I see I was not the only one who was eagerly waiting for the new season to begin. Finally, the waiting is coming to an end <smiles extaticly> so I think we all have a date...on this very site, in a tenth days...

Disney & Gargoyles:> I agree with almost everything has been said about it. It seems to me that Disney did never really believe in Gargoyles-they spent very little resources on it. Seems that Disney is able to make a good-quality animated series-simply doesn't want to do it, they prefer to stick the "singing-happy-animals" stuff. Think about "Timon & Pumbaa"- What if the same animation quality had been used for "Gargoyles"? Just imagine: a "Gargoyles" series made of 1-hour long episodes (Written by Greg, obviously) with a good animation and made for a little more adult audience, broadcasted in prime-time! Oh, well, as my grandma uses to say: "Dreams are cheap..." (She doesn't use these words, of course, but I assure you the meaning is that).

Enough for now, more later.

Ragga,se vedemu!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, March 6, 2000 01:02:23 PM
IP: h213-18-147.mi2.albacom.net

Wilek: actually {if memory serves}, the Mayans and Aztecs {and the folks who lived around them and then} had 13 levels of - well, the punishment-place....and seven of - well, the better place.

::yawns:: okay, time to get back to work on salting....{latin's tough, especially when you're mixing it with greek}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 07:23:31 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Hey hey!

Gside> <tecnobable> Well, thats one of the few things I DONT excell at! I`ve got no idea tho, sorry. I`d ask Alex, but I think she flunked that test :P *Alex waks cali* Owie!!! I was kidding, sheesh! :P

Oooo I gotta go! Oh, and....·Number 24!!! Haha! :P

Bye!!!
Caliope
Monday, March 6, 2000 07:10:26 AM
IP: 136.145.83.126

Sorry for the 2X post, but y'all have GOT to see this. hehehehe
Wilek
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:37:38 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

*Warpmind enters, visibly charred, burnt and electrocuted. Behind him are his adopted chibis.*
Urrrk... ever had a kid throwing tantrums? Imagine that kid being able to throw electric bolts at whatever catches his eye as well...

Christine: If they make an audio book of Black Roses, sign me up for a copy, eh? :)

Wilek: I think I've tried that ZSnes version. I don't know why, but I actually prefer Snes9X. I honestly don't know why.

Jewel: Go sic that little runt. Go, gal. As for that Salon link thingie... maybe Norway isn't so bad in comparison, after all... Wilek, this looks like something for phase Five of the Nereus Project, eh?

Yay! Pissy is back! Yo, man, I wasn't necessarily referring to you when I said the Joyriders have been lax lately. I am aware of your... complications... and I sympathize. No, my brow was raised at Wilek and Xanathar, why, as far as I can tell, post about daily. As for the female gargoyle thing, well, you're right. Variety is good. At least they're not all equipped with near-identical personalities. (Imagine, a clan full of either vengeful Demona-type females, or the unerringly cheerful Angela-type. The horror!)

Well, I gotta go; not even time for an RP.

Later.

*Warpmind drags his rather crispy self out again, followed by the chibis.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:27:49 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Robby> Cartoon Network President> I'll probably vote for Dexter...Dee Dee or Johnny Bravo might have been amusing, but they would have ruined the country, and I despise a lot of the others...Still, having a complete and total idiot in office might make my conquest easier...

Jewel> Small problem> How would you like him killed? >;)

Zath> Welcome back! :D

Gside> <<Uhmm, how? Black hole=mass!=decay. Eh, maybe it's composed of odd non proton/neutron baryons.>> I doubt it's a 'real' black hole; it probably just acts like one. (It glows brightly, so it can't be a proper black hole.) The Black Shark missile is from Descent 3; no idea how it works. :P

Pistoff> Welcome back! ^_^ <<If you think that's scary...have you ever looked in the fridge and found an empty plate? "Did something eat something else?!">> :O That's never happened to me, thank the stars...<<I think Gargoyles would've worked better if it had been done as a prime-time series rather than an afternoon one...it could've been geared a little more toward adults, more of whom would've seen the show and appreciated it. Actually, I think it would've helped if the show had been an hour long instead of half an hour; 22 minutes just isn't enough time to really build up a plot and character development (though the writers did an excellent job anyway).>> I think so as well. When I've taken over...hehehehe...<<The scumbag who came up with the idea for this one should be shot 13 times in the face with a huge shotgun.>> By that time he wouldn't really have much of a face left, but hey, it'd be cathartic anyhow. ;)

Rodlox> <<what's the 'Joyride' you folks talk about so much?>> A sort of RP (but separate from *the* RP) where assorted idiots meet violent ends. Great fun. ;D <<hi...does anyone know the Greek {modern, middle, or ancient} words for these words?: . Demon, Angel, Griffin, Sphinx, {and others that you think might be relevant}.>> Demon was derived from 'daimon', meaning lesser god (ie deified hero), attendant spirit, or genius. Angel is from the Late Greek 'angelos', meaning 'messenger'. Griffin I think is from 'gryphus' or 'gryph'. Sphinx...*is* ancient Greek. :P

SOROW> <> Glad to hear it. :) Still, are you going to have the X-rays done?
Wilek Nereus
Monday, March 6, 2000 03:25:31 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Just stopped by for a quick post.

Anne- Just make sure you read them in the right order, I almost got two of them confused.

Sorow-We're praying, just please be ok.

Christine-Book news- That's great news!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 02:43:50 AM
IP: cache3.avtel.net

hi...does anyone know the Greek {modern, middle, or ancient} words for these words?:
. Demon, Angel, Griffin, Sphinx, {and others that you think might be relevant}.

it's for a gargoyles fanfiction {timedancer, specifically}.

THANKS!!!

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 02:12:41 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Hey everybody. I'm in a very excited mood because, I just practiced with my band tonight and we've got a lot of cool songs to record for the Dallas Sound Lab session. But I'm really happy because I'm seeing Incubus this weekend at Deep Ellum (downtown Dallas), and the next moring, I'm driving up to New Orleans to see the 3-11-00 311 concert. I can't wait, because they're my favorite band in the world! Hell yeah!!!!!
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 01:23:57 AM
IP: spider-th042.proxy.aol.com

Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted all week. RL has been busy trodding all over my long, lovely tail. Since I haven't gotted around to reading last week's CR, I'll just say that I hope everyone is doing fine. Catch ya'll laterz. Ciao!
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Monday, March 6, 2000 12:41:43 AM
IP: 98adcf90.ipt.aol.com

Hi everyone. Just thought I'd drop a line before I went to bed. I think I'm going to be alright as far as my head trama goes. My neck is slowing swelling down and my head doesn't hurt as much. But I still have a big dent in my skull which sucks! But thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers. They helped! *hugs*

Timedancer> YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! *dances around the room singing*
Brooklyn:
"A little bit of Pandora in my life.
A little bit of Gwenyvere by my side.
A little bit of Corrine's what I need.
A little bit of Angela's what I see.
A little bit of Meryt in the sun.
A little bit of Maggie all night long.
A little bit of Sata. Here I am.
A little bit of you makes me your man."
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
SOROW
Monday, March 6, 2000 12:22:05 AM
IP: dll2a010-0583.splitrock.net

Pistoff: what's the 'Joyride' you folks talk about so much?
. . actually, i'm pretty sure that the credits listed a few female animators, so the reason's probably more financial: do as the paycheck says.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 6, 2000 12:18:43 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

<-----Nice orbs. :)

Once again, sorry for the long absence. Between being sick and all the RL stuff going on lately, I just haven't had time to post here. My email program crashed a few days ago and I had to get a new one, and now I'm still catching up on emails...

Well, I'm pressed for time, but I'll reply to what I can...some of it'll be old topics, but I gotta get in on 'em before everybody forgets about 'em... ;)

Female gargoyle appearences: I'm guessing that most of the animators on the TV series were male, so they just made all the females "hot." But we can always make up for it in our own ficverses. For mine, I already have a couple of beaked females (a mother and a daughter...and when the daughter grows up, she'll be a real knockout :), and I'll have at least one in Vacuum Riders, whenever I get around to writing that series. In fact, I recently found a way to put an adult Arianna and Graeme in my main series, which is set in the present. Imagine an Ari and Graeme who witnessed the earth's destruction? hee hee... And for the second in my Rising Sun series, I recently decided that Taurus has a daughter. ;D Vacuum Riders will have Ari and probably a few more beaked females, and descendents of the London clan...and Boiler, who's 8 feet tall due to a birth defect, and has more muscles than Arnold Schwarzeneggar ever dreamed of having. ;) There'll also be a few small, goblin-type females...and there's probably plenty of variety on New Olympus...*pictures a lady with a flaming head walking around...O_O* And outside my ficverse, in the novel that I'm rewriting for the billionth time, there's one character who looks sorta like a gargoyle (just as a smartass pop-culture reference) and others who are sort of "furry" types...

Wilek: <<It's like the softly glowing Tupperware in the back of the fridge...>> If you think that's scary...have you ever looked in the fridge and found an empty plate? "Did something eat something else?!" <<Truth is, Disney's been uncomfortable about Gargoyles almost since the beginning; I count it a miracle that they still show it at all (even though they censor it heavily)...>> Yeah, this show wasn't their usual cute-fuzzy-talking-and-singing-animals kind of garbage. This show could actually inspire people to _think_...which the Disney people seem to view as a bad thing. Then, of course, the rotten bastards had to move it to Saturday mornings on ABC (which I like to call the "other" Disney Channel) and drove the final nails in the coffin. :( Personally, I think Gargoyles would've worked better if it had been done as a prime-time series rather than an afternoon one...it could've been geared a little more toward adults, more of whom would've seen the show and appreciated it. Actually, I think it would've helped if the show had been an hour long instead of half an hour; 22 minutes just isn't enough time to really build up a plot and character development (though the writers did an excellent job anyway). Heh, if I ever get rich enough to buy the rights from Disney and adapt my own fanfic series, it'll probably have to be shown on HBO, like Spawn... ;D

Mara: <<it is a lil eerie that for the most part their eyecandy. But I suppose it goes with the unwritten rule in entertainment that to be a heroine, a genius or something really cool you have to be hot and hve a size negative 1 waist.>> Good point. And it's not only TV shows and movies, it's also magazines that are pushing that on us. I saw a magazine on the stand recently that had...some skinny bimbo, I don't even know who she was...and I could see her ribs, for chrissake!! Is that supposed to be attractive? People who are too thin are rather boring, IMO, and if I can see the skeleton under the skin, it just gives me the creeps. ;)

Warpmind: <<True, the female gargoyles all look kinda like supermodels with extra extremities. And you complain?>> Not exactly. I just like a little variety, and besides, I think anyone who reads my rants knows my opinion of Beautiful People. ;) Besides...I _really_ like beaks. ;D <<By the way, why have you others kept off the Joyride for so long?>> I have not lost interest. In case you haven't noticed, I haven't had time to even post in here more than once every week or two. ;P I used to post in here every night, now I'm lucky if I have time to pop in once a week. *sigh* I've just got too many things going on right now, and have to be selective about what I do next until I get caught up on everything. I'll jump back into the Joyride as soon as I can. There are quite a few people who have some payback coming... *cracks knuckles*

Xanathar: Cool! Congrats to you and Fleur! :D

Mercord: Excellent points on the Gargoyles episodes being edited. But as Wilek said, the Disney people were uncomfortable with the show from the beginning. But I agree with everything you said on the matter... :)

Doug: First, a belated Happy Birthday! Sorry I took so long... :( Also, I noticed the stuff about ARJ files. You can find programs that deal with this type of file at www.softseek.com--there's a program that works like WinZip, except it does .arj files instead of .zip files... :)

Aaron: <<Well, the series was animated by mostly japanese studios, so we should be grateful they didn't all have huge eyes, no nose, and toothpick legs. ;)>> *L* Very good point. Fortunately, anime seems to be drifting away from that style, judging by movies like Ghost in the Shell...

Jenna: Congrats on the interviews! I hope one of them bears fruit. :D Sorry I haven't responded to your email...been having a lot of problems lately and I'm still trying to catch up....

The Millionaire Show: Gack. I didn't watch this for the same reason I don't watch Jerry Springer. Just hearing the description was enough to turn me off. Complete, utter garbage. The scumbag who came up with the idea for this one should be shot 13 times in the face with a huge shotgun.

Possible Star Trek series: I've heard that the fandom is pressuring Paramount to do a series focusing on the USS Excelsior and Captain Sulu. I might actually watch this one, if it's done. The Classic Trek series (especially the movies) was always more interesting than anything seen on DS9 and The Jeri Ryan's Breasts Show in the last few years....

Poll: Oops, I almost forgot about this. If I could choose, I'd want to be a cyborg. Preferably a "terminator" type, or maybe like the ones in Ghost in the Shell. ;D

Tolerance of Gargoyles: One thing I never bought into was the idea that everybody would be terrified of gargoyles, especially people in New York. Come on, people who live there have to deal with hundreds of things that could result in their deaths--exploding manhole covers, gang warfare, drive-by shootings, asbestos shooting into the sky...personally, I think that if gargoyles suddenly appeared in Manhattan, most of the people would just shrug it off. Besides, they'd probably be too busy flipping each other off to give gargoyles much thought. ;)

Jewel: I had a similar "small problem" who only occasionally posted in here, but is now becoming a "regular"...ugh. Finding out that there was more than one of these guys with similar MOs was quite frightening. Anyway, I hope the mess gets cleared up soon....

Politics: Lately I've been finding myself less and less able to care anymore. Nothing really changes, no matter who is in office. For my personal choice, I'd love to see either Jello Biafra or Henry Rollins get elected...but there's no way that'll happen because they're not "serious candidates." Ho-ho...

Well, I think that pretty much covers the CR from two weeks ago. *sigh* DC has been giving me a hard time all evening, so I'd better call it a night and try to catch up on the rest ASAP, or I might get disconnected and never get back in... :/

Now, back to catching up on emails...with luck, anyway...

"I just flew in from New York, and boy, is my middle finger tired!" --Jerry Ross
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Sunday, March 5, 2000 11:38:35 PM
IP: cb2-96.transport.com

Hey Number 13! Woo Hoo!

I can't say this weekend has been that great for me. I've been without a car since November and have been forced to ride to work with my mom every day. Since that involved getting up at 5:00 in the morning, I was kinda hoping things would change this weekend...

Since my mom's car has over 200,000 miles on it, she's really been thinking of replacing it. She's found this auto auction and was going to go there and see if she could acquire something in a little better shape. I even put up an extra 300 bucks to help her out on it. I figured I'd begetting the old car, which is still quite drivable despite the mileage...

Only problem with this plan was that the AUCTION CANCELLED AT THE LAST MINUTE!! ARRRGGGGGGHHH!!!! Which means it will be another month till they hold another one! It's justso damn frustrating to have all your plans just go up in smoke like that. This is especially difficult because I'll be working Scarborogh Faire the middle of next month, and I really need a seperate vehilce of my own...

On a totally different note, I've decided to start writing some Garg fan-fic. I've got this one idea that's been rolling about my head for quite a while and I've finally gotten around to doing something with it. As soon as I have something a little more concreteput together, I'll see about posting it...
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, March 5, 2000 10:21:11 PM
IP: uv1cisco02-37.ultravision.net

Top Ten!! I hope
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, March 5, 2000 10:19:09 PM
IP: usr57-dialup295.mix2.atlanta.cw.net

Fire Storm> Dead parrot sketch: Yeah, I meant the Monty Python sketch. It didn't have to be that one, I was just trying to think of something rather long and hacker-esque.
<<Even if it is retail it may be downloadable, making it free>>: Right, but it is rather nice not to rely on warez, and get it legally.
<<Tried the latest versions of ZSNES (I think it's up to .9891)?>>: Yeah, it's 0.9891. If there's one thing I like most about ZSNES, it's ~. Great for those boring level building times in RPGs.
<<the black hole dies out about ten seconds after it forms>>: Uhmm, how? Black hole=mass!=decay. Eh, maybe it's composed of odd non proton/neutron baryons.

Calíope> <<Such technobable?!>>: Always. That is one of the few things I excell at.

Robby> Poll: I went with Dexter. It's about time we got a nerd in there.

And hey, Zath has returned. Now who's left on the MIA list?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 5, 2000 09:51:41 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Top ten! :D
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 5, 2000 09:45:35 PM
IP: ctrts3-6.mrs.umn.edu

Top 10? Real post later
Zath
Sunday, March 5, 2000 09:02:45 PM
IP: ppp-229-199.usc.edu

I'm actually a Top Ten. whoopee...now what?

::waiting::

::waiting::

aw frellit! gotta go...

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 5, 2000 09:02:38 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

More TimeDancer: YAY!!!!

ps: do we get to see a Vodyanoi too? {just curious, no need to answer - at least, not onlist/line}. <G>

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 5, 2000 09:01:25 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

A lot early aren't we?

Top Ten.

Auntie Starsinger
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:51:16 PM
IP: proxy-677.public.rwc.webtv.net

Top Ten!
Tim P.
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:33:49 PM
IP: s9-onawa.pionet.net

Top ten baby!! :)
Anne
MN, USA
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:32:02 PM
IP: 204-246-241-89.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Top ten! :D
Wilek
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:25:25 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

2nd (minus Robby)

And, almost forgot to change the mp3.
Revenger of TMBG: Why Does the Sun Shine by They Might Be Giants.
Share and Enjoy

Replys in a little bit.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:23:26 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

**a rumbling sound occurs, followed by one wall coming down and the back end of a '79 Cadillac busting through with a slightly dented rear bumper and some broken rubber facing pieces.**

**grumble** Top Ten. **looks at damage after he exits the Caddy** Anyone know where I can find a bumper for my car? And I ain't kiddin' ... I accidentally wound up backing my Cadillac into the corner of my aunt's house and causing some fairly minor damage (except to my pride).

**grumbles and drives the Caddy away, struggling with the brakes as he drives away**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:11:39 PM
IP: zzz-209252248165.splitrock.net

Somewhere in Russia- 1606

"Yield foul ogre! You have ravaged this fair land long enough! Now prepare to taste the blade of Prince Ivan the Valiant!"

"I will not yield!" replied the ogre. "I shall serve my master's cause with my last breath!"

"So be it, then, lackey of Koschei!" retorted the bold young warrior. "Fall before my blade!"

Before the two blades could clash, however, a spark of fire appeared in the darkened sky above...

TIMEDANCER: SEASON THREE- COMING SOON TO A COMPUTER NEAR YOU!
Robby
Sunday, March 5, 2000 08:04:52 PM
IP: spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com