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HI all just stopped by to catch up again, Hope you enjoy this one that a friend sent me...

Redneck computer terms:

1. LOG ON: Makin a wood stove hotter.
2. LOG OFF: Don't add no more wood.
3. MONITOR: Keepin an eye on the wood stove.
4. DOWNLOAD: Gettin the farwood off the truk.
5. MEGA HERTZ: When yer not kerful gettin the farwood.
6. FLOPPY DISC: Whatcha git from tryin to carry too much
farwood.
7. RAM: That thar thing whut splits the farwood.
8. HARD DRIVE: Gettin home in the winter time.
9. PROMPT: Whut the mail ain't in the winter time.
10. WINDOWS: Whut to shut wen it's cold outside.
11. SCREEN: Whut to shut wen it's blak fly season.
12. BYTE: Whut them dang flys do.
13. CHIP: Munchies fer the TV.
14. MICRO CHIP: Whut's in the bottom of the munchie bag.
15. MODEM: Whut cha did to the hay fields.
16. DOT MATRIX: Old Dan Matrix's wife.
17. LAP TOP: Whar the kitty sleeps.
18. KEYBOARD: Whar ya hang the dang keys.
19. SOFTWARE: Them dang plastic forks and nifes.
20. MOUSE: Whut eats the grain in the barn.
21. MAINFRAME: Holds up the barn roof.
22. PORT: Fancy Flatlander wine
23. ENTER: Northerner talk fer "C'mon in y'all"
24. RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY: Wen ya cain't 'member whut
ya paid fer the rifle when yore wife asks.
25. MOUSE PAD: That hippie talk fer the rat hole

Catch ya'll later!
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:18:02 PM
IP: twin5923.magiclink.com

Jenna: neat story..think i heard a variant on the Pheramones tale once - don't recall where. {"NOT THE CHAIR!!" okay, i'm calm}. :)

actually, Jenna, i don't think it was me that asked about Pheramones, but thanks for the info.

side note: in antelopes, there's a scent gland located between the eyes and the nostrils....while gargs like Goliath might have too-short faces for much of a gland there, Brooklyn, {and Lex?} do...to varying degrees.
Rodlox
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:16:34 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

David- :( Are you coming to gathering 2000?
jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:04:41 PM
IP: 1cust181.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Rodlox- Pheremones- I take it you mean that subconsious odor males and females produce to attract each other, yes? Well, your talking to an ex psych major and I know one little study that was done on those little wonders.

The pheremone itself was isolated for both men and women by a scientist, in france I believe. At any rate the experement was as followed, there were two groups of people that were put into two identical waiting rooms. In the control group they put nothing. In the experemental waiting room they sprinkled the male pheremone there one time and the female pheremone there another.

The result was that when the female pheromone was sprinkled into a chair, all the men of the waiting room wanted to sit in or near the chair, and the women avoided it. When the male pheremone was used, the women sat in/near the chair and the men avoided it like the plauge.

After the guy did this experement, he decided to patent his design of isolating pheremones, and sell it to perfume companies.

True story.

I don't know, being different species, if gargs and humans would have the same. But perhaps it would be similar enough to have the same 'desired' effect.

There is of course scifi stories about people who can control their pheremones, and drive the other sex wild- Shadows of the Empire is one.
jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:03:41 PM
IP: 1cust181.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

jenna> Bummer. It would have been fun to meet someone else from the CR. I only got to go one day of G99, and I didn't know any of you very well then.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:00:49 PM
IP: dll2a020-1265.splitrock.net

DAVID--NOOOOOWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!! My hubby and I were going to go to aggiecon this weekend and we didn't get a chance! It sounds like it was awesome and if I had the chance to meet another garg fan there I would have certianly gone!!!
jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 10:53:02 PM
IP: 1cust181.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Grey (which I've been using for the past few days, FireStorm)

Hi ya'll.
I'm back from AggieCon. It was really cool to hear Terry Prattchet read from his new novel. One of the fans bought the chance to be written into an upcomming novel at the charity auction. (I wish I'd gone now, but I was watching Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star instead) It was also kind of fun not going to any of the events where Harlan Ellison was. (I have nothing against Ellison, but he has an abrasive manner and voice, so I like him better in print)

I also got to have my own pannel discussion. There was a pannel on "Wearing Many Hats" which seemed to be about what you have to do to make a living while you write. There weren't very many guests, since it was kind of early in the day. The pannel asked who in the audience were writers, and I was the only one. They spent the rest of the hour pretty much just talking to me. ("they" were Bill Faucett, Arron Alliston, and some guy who I'd never heard of before) That was pretty cool.

I also got a bunch of new con buttons. (I'm working on a suit of scale mail made of buttons. I'm pretty close now, maybe two more cons before I can do a whole vest. Maybe I'll post some of the better ones in a while.

I missed my chance to get all my new Ren fair garb dirt cheap. The merchant I was talking with left before I could pay him for my new stuff. He has my contact info. I hope he calls me back...

I'll try to read up and see what else I need to comment on/reply to. I'm kind of tired now.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, March 26, 2000 10:26:45 PM
IP: dll2a020-1265.splitrock.net

Random Question:

are there any phenomes {sounds for words} that humans might make, but gargs can't? just wondering.

also, what sounds are similar to the "X" sound {"sh, s, c"??}.

Rodlox
Sunday, March 26, 2000 10:14:42 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Niamhgold: <TGS pic: Thailog, 100%! My favorite gargoyle, second to none!>

YOu too??!! Give me four my brother!!!

jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 08:55:18 PM
IP: 1cust83.tnt6.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Topic: Gargoyle Eggs: the embryo(sp?) does get nutrients from the yold...but there are two other factors at work here:

1) eggs {even chicken eggs} have pores; these allow air to enter and exit the egg. can we envision Princess Katherine rubbing some eggs with a nutrient broth?

2) Sevarius pointed out to Xanatos that gargoyles get energy from being stone all day. do the eggs turn to stone? does the embryo? if both/either of those is "yes", then there's an additional source of energy.

Rodlox
Sunday, March 26, 2000 08:40:55 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Topic: Gargoyle Mammaries: << Even then no one is really sure why they are constantly present in human females; other
species get along quite nicely with mammary glands which develop only when there are actually young to be fed, and "deflate" again, as it were, after the young are weaned.>>

. there's a strong theory {pointed out by D.Morris} that one of the reasons why humans {and, by inference} gargoyle mammaries are 'inflated' {as one garg fan put it} is due to sexual selection - ie, the males choosing their mates.

. this theory falls apart is gargs choose their mates solely from the basis of a competitive flight between prospective mates....but if appearance has anything to do with it {going from how visually-oriented a species they appear to be}, then it is a possibility.

. {visual image of the Trio strutting {pre-Sata} around the battlements for Angela}.

Rodlox
Sunday, March 26, 2000 08:36:06 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Selanit > Many of your questions on gargoyle eggs have been asked before and had answers posted by Greg Weisman in the "Ask Greg" archive at Station 8.

A few that I seem to recall: Eggs take 10 years to hatch. They are soft when laid, but harden shortly after, like most bird eggs. They require attention throughout incubation, including being "turned" (Princess Katharine was even seen doing this in the "Avalon" episodes). And gargoyle females do nurse the young, meaning yes, the breasts are functional.

On a somewhat related note... I've seen the question brought up in "Ask Greg" several times on how the Avalon clan was taught to glide, with only humans to raise them. Well, I was watching part of a David Attenburough documentary series on PBS this afternoon called "The Life of Birds." There was a segment on the endangered whooping cranes where chicks are being raised by humans, and a similar problem seemed to come up - how does a human teach a bird to fly. It would seem impossible... but it really isn't. Just by watching their human "foster parents" mimicing the motions and drawing on their own instincts, young cranes have been taught to fly.

So there's an interesting creativity demon to ponder... Princess Katharine running along flapping her arms trying to encourage her "Eggs" to take that first leap from the battlements. :P
Patrick Toman
Sunday, March 26, 2000 08:05:15 PM
IP: abd0345b.ipt.aol.com

<powder blue>

Just a couple of ideas here...

Selanit> I seem to recall reading in the Ask Greg Archives that female gargoyles do indeed nurse the infants. And my theory for the eggs is that the shells gradually become harder and that they turn to stone during the day as well.

********** New TIMEDANCER Comments **********

I found it a little short, but it was a good episode -- I especially liked the development on Puck and Brooklyn forcing himself to deal with being separated from Sata. Nice illustrations too. As usual, I'm looking forward to the next episode.

********** End brief comments on TIMEDANCER **********

CR / TGS pictures: Hmm, I think it would be nice to have a pic of Matt Bluestone here too, and maybe one of Martin Hacker or some other Illuminati member. They appear often enough in the series, yet we hardly have any pics of them. Not that I'm complaining - I know a lot of effort goes into the illustrations.

Fleur> Hey, welcome back! :-) I hope my emails to your Hotmail account didn't get lost or something.

Everyone, have a good week -- maybe if there's enough positve energy I'll feel better about life in general. ;-)
Blue Caeru - [BlueCaeru@cs.com]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 08:05:05 PM
IP: spider-wj083.proxy.aol.com

Gargoyle eggs> Okay, here are some interesting questions.

The eggs take ten years to hatch once they've been laid. Is the embryo inside developing at a constant rate during those ten years, or does the egg remain in a state of stasis for, say, 9 and a half years, and then all the development takes place at a quicker pace?

I don't see how a single egg could store enough food to keep an embryo alive and healthy and developing for ten whole years. Growing takes a lot of energy, and reserves within the egg would be depleted fairly shortly once serious growth had begun.

Is the shell hard, like a bird's egg, or leathery, like a reptile's egg? I would lean towards the latter, as a hard shell would tend to be broken more easily given the incredibly long incubation period.

What sort of conditions are most beneficial to an egg's development? The rookery in Wyvvern was a sort of basement; this suggests that a cool, damp environment would be best. The fact that said rookery was subterranean suggests that the eggs require a more or less constant temperature, which they could get underground where the seasonal variations of temperature are less marked.

Do the eggs need to be turned? Remaining in the same position for ten years might encourage moss to grow on them, or allow various egg-eating creatures to attack them unnoticed from beneath. I think probably they would have to be picked up and rotated on a fairly regular basis.

When they hatch, do the hatchlings have an egg-horn to help break through the shell, as in many reptile species? My guess would be no, given the natural hardness of a gargoyle's talons.

Now we come to a -- perhaps -- sensitive subject. Female gargoyles very obviously have breasts. Are they functional? That is, do hatchlings need to nurse during the earliest part of their development? If so, what causes the female gargoyles to begin lactating so long after the eggs had been laid?

Perhaps some sort of pheremone emitted by the eggs shortly prior to hatching signals that females should begin lactating. Provided that were true, would the pheremones specifically target the female who laid a given egg, or would any female capable of lactating begin to do so?

On the other hand, perhaps gargoyle mammary glands are not functional after all, but serve as a sort of camoflage to fit in better with humans. It's an awfully weak hypothesis, given the total disregard of every other aspect of gargoyle biology for human sensibilities. But if gargoyle breasts are not functional, why do they have them? I can think of no other viable reason for having breasts. I mean, they prevent females from developing the same sort of skeleto-muscular attachments in the chest region that males have, preventing them from exerting the same ammount of leverage, which is clearly a disadvantage from an evolutionary standpoint. The only really good reason for having breasts is to feed babies. Even then no one is really sure why they are constantly present in human females; other species get along quite nicely with mammary glands which develop only when there are actually young to be fed, and "deflate" again, as it were, after the young are weaned.

There we go, let's see if that doesn't set the pigeon among the cats. <grin>
Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 07:39:59 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

Firestorm: Click my name for a pic of Meryt. A pic of Isis can be found in Sun and Serpent 4, and one of Isfet in Sun and Serpent 1. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any pics of Harthoth up illustrating TGS episodes or in the archive. :( Maybe somebody needs to do one, huh? :)

Reminder- Many people in here promised to send me feedback this weekend. Hope y'all who haven't done this yet (you know who you are) still have time to keep the promise. :) Talk to y'all later, I have to get back to work on my next story now.
Doug
Sunday, March 26, 2000 07:20:33 PM
IP: pool-207-205-149-143.dlls.grid.net

One thing I rather wonder; if there had been no TGC, would we have responded differently to the end of "Gargoyles" - that is, if "Hunter's Moon" had indeed been the last episode, and there had been no new episodes at all in 1996?

What I mean is: was the disappointing and mediocre nature of the Goliath Chronicles a factor in our missing "Gargoyles" the more, the fact that it didn't die with dignity? (If "Hunter's Moon" had been the end, on the other hand, while there are some unanswered questions, it ends the story enough on a high note that I think we could forgive it for simply ending).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, March 26, 2000 06:59:38 PM
IP: 216.87.46.167.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hey! Mint Green :)

So...how much longer are we going to be posting the color names? Or is someone having fun just watching us fool around with 'em? =}

TGS pic: Thailog, 100%! My favorite gargoyle, second to none!

Shadowrider: Yeah, ten years for a gargoyle egg to hatch can put added stress on a fic--on the other hand, however, it can be put to the advantage. Because they take so long, there's time for a *thousand* things to happen to their parents without affecting the child. Also, it can make for an interesting plot because previously-unknown gargoyle children can randomly start surfacing :) I always had a problem with the twenty years between cycles; no wonder many gargoyles end up having three or more eggs per season!

Shadowrider (again): I saw the movie you were talking about...but it was such a long time ago... And, what did the line you put at the end of your post mean? I'm curious :)

Christine: Gotta agree with you; I'd rather there have never have been TGC than actually have had my mind infested with the rotten storyline. And, you know, we _all_ ended up forgetting it ever happened :)

Romeo Must Die: Sounds pretty interesting; I saw the making of it. The fact that the Juliet role is African American and the Romeo role (Jet Li is so cute!) is Chinese is, I believe, very creative. It reminds me of an old early nineties movie called "Fakin' Da Funk," which, although somewhat cheesy in parts, had a good premise overall. It was basically about a Chinese kid who was accidentally adopted by an African American family, and ultimately fell in love with an African American woman. It was good because of how the family scenes were handled, as well; how the Chinese boy could be brothers with his African American sibling in such an open manner was refreshing. Anyone else seen it?

Well, that's all I gotta say for now! Bye!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 06:29:33 PM
IP: ncia113n.ncia.net

Dark Green (Good color as the basis of a plaid)

Rodlox> <<Brooklyn knows {or can look up} when Xanatos stocks plummet, which team of soldiers lost it for the Muslims in 778 AD {Poitiers/Tours}, the exact schemer behind the fall of the Second Temple, etc.... >>: Yes, But it could be that he was never put in a situation where he could alter those events, or his actions mistakenly brought them about.

Mara> <<smelly little geeks>>: Hey! I am not little.

Kitainia> <<Hope I've been able to remind you that there are better and more interesting things on the X-Files than just how Scully looks>>: I was mostly just saying that for comedic effect, though the volume of the room did raise a good couple levels when they showed that shot.

Wilek> <>: If you have a semi-good gamepad, you could program the moves into an unused button. And the blitzes are pretty much fighting moves (Aura Bolt, Air Dance, Air Blade, and Bum Rush are pretty much the same thing extended, and you don't really need anything else).

Shadowrider> Big Trouble in Little China: Fun movie, couldn't tell you the dialogue you are looking for, though. But does anyone know what the character is that forms when elector-boy dies?

Fire Storm> <<[Fran] sounds pretty bad! What are the chances of him being booted?>>: Probably not very good in the near future, but there is always hope.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 26, 2000 05:00:39 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

I just read "A Merrier Hour". I know no ones cares but I wanted to post that fact anyhow
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, March 26, 2000 03:54:47 PM
IP: proxy2-external.vista1.sdca.home.com

*Cyborg sticks her head into the room* Hi, I just read an interview with Franks (the link is on the www.gargoyles-fans.org page) and I noticed that his assistant's name is Owen. Talk about synchrondipidy!
Au revoir. *leaves for a 3000 mile check- up, to have her head reatached;)*

colour: violet
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Monreal, Quebec, Canada
Sunday, March 26, 2000 02:07:09 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Color = Mint Green



<I'd like to see a Harthoth pic>

Yes, but from what stories? I am not sure where there are pictures of these characters. Remember, the TGS site is quite large.

If you can provide a URL to the picture, that would REALLY help!

Also, I cannot make any new pictures. Besides the fact the my traditional art skills are below that of a hatchling, I am not a TGS Staff Member, so I cannot say that my pictures are TGS pictures.

Thank you, and happy posting!
Fire Storm - [Night-flame@usa.net]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:03:46 PM
IP: t2-12.visitus.net

Kit> It sounds like you've had to go through the same thing. Thank you for the advice. It's awful to admit that I have so many enemies whom I've never done anything to except posed a threat. The world can be a very sad place, but it's people like you that make it great. Thank you my sister.

Wilek> Thanks for the sympathies. Yeah, it hurt a lot. But it was actually more of a really big surprise than pain.

Firestorm> I would like to see pics of Harthoth and Isfet, more of Sara Jasper and Matt, and one of Andrea (Demona's friend).
SOROW
Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:26:31 PM
IP: dll2a010-0395.splitrock.net

Firestorm> I'd like to see a Harthoth pic
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:19:05 AM
IP: dialin-982-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

FIRESTORM-- PICS I WANNA SEE UP ARE:

Goliath and Elisa embrace- Gargoyles season 2 finale- "seeds of Change"

Thailog!!!!!!!!!--- Gargoyles season 2 -- "Reemergance Part 3"

jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 10:09:41 AM
IP: 1cust59.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Color = Kentucky Bluegrass

Gside: Yeow! He sounds pretty bad! What are the chances of him being booted?
<sold our souls to Coke>
Funny... thats what the Dearborn school district did...
It's not like the superintendant was well liked by the students anyway. He almost NEVER calls a snow day, AND he tried to get rid of senior skip day (in our district Seniors get to skip the finals). Needless to say, the seniors threatened to skip anyway!

Wilek: <(I can't even make a working Doom level)>
Hey, don't worry. I never was able to either!

Fleur and Xanathar: <*wanders off to raise the mush level in the room a couple of degrees. >:)*>
I don't mind. I quite enjoy seeing new couples show that they do love each other.
It's something that other people didn't allow LM and I to enjoy. :(

Shadowrider: <Gargoyle Eggs>
Well, Greg hasn't given an exact answer as to how long the eggs would stay inside the mother before being laid (guesses range from 3 months to 24 months), but they stay eggs for 10 years until they hatch.
Mating cycles occur every 20 years, so if we go by the series...
Angela was laid between 984 and about 986, so the last breeding cycle was mid-1980's and the next one is about 2005-ish.

Kitania: 
I just noticed... we DON'T have pictures of Thersites, Harthoth or Thailog! Hmm... MAYBE LM and I should do something about that...

<>CR STUFF!<>
Many of you have checked out the CR Images page that shows all of the images that will be available in the comment room soon. Not every character is presented there. The TGS staff said that I could use any image from their site in here, but I don't want to search through every story and every image to find one or two images. So here is where YOU, the CR poster, can help!
Browse through your favorite TGS stories and images (TGS provided images only) to find the pictures and characters you think should be in the CR.
Then, just tell me! What character, what image, and where I can find it. For example...

Javin, from the Dark Ages season 2 story "Nowhere to Run"

I won't guarantee that every image will get into the CR, but maybe some will.
<>END CR STUFF!<>
Fire Storm - [<--- TGS CR Images Page]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 09:03:29 AM
IP: t3-61.visitus.net

< Bright Green >

Well, I'm here again. Hope you all are having a good weekend.

Doug:> Thank you for your answers. Of course, I'm going to read your previuos works, at least, as I will have the time to do it. <<...Sorry it was too slow at times....>> No prob, as I said, it is a matter of taste. Furthermore, it is probable that the fact I had to read your story in small bits had influenced my judgement about it. I repeat, your story is very good, and I'll wait eagerly your next work.

Gargoyles and prejudices:> I agree with Cyborg: for sure Gargoyles are able to have prejudices, but I think that, more than on physical appearance, they'd be based on geographical origin and cultural diversity.

Sevarius Jr. :> I just read your story about the care center in Massachussets. As I read it, I hoped I didn't understand properly what you wrote, I hoped I had misunderstood words' meaning. Then, I went to seek them on dictionary...I had understood well. You know, I have a little broher, and I couldn't help but imagine him treated that way...I agree with you: there's something wrong in this world, and things seem to go worser and worser.

Mara:> I'm afraid to hear your problem with hackers. I experienced something similar (as it happened to me, I lost a complete relation I was supposed to deliver two days later for an examination) so I think I understand what you're feeling.

TGS - related questions:> 1) How many episodes will count TD season III ?
2) (Maybe it has already been asked) When the other series' third season is going to begin? (at least approximately: in a week? in a month? next year?)

Non TGS-related question:> Does anyone around here know "Big trouble in Little China" ? (Movie with Kurt Russel) There's a scene in which Jack and Wong are going to enter the Wing-kong company pretending to be telephone company workers. Just before entering, they have a quick dialogue. I know the Italian version, but I'd like to know how does it sound in original (I need it for my fanfic). I report the Italian version, for referring (If anyone here understands Italian...)

Jack: "Occorrer� tempismo al decimo di secondo!"
Wang: "E concentrazione assoluta! Ehi, Jack, Sei pronto?"
Jack: "Io sono nato pronto!"

Thanks in advance.

Kit:> You're welcome. :)

Gargoyles eggs:> Thanks to the ones who answered me. Ten years? So much? Oh, Hell...< Picks up his would-be fanfic and rips away a few pages (just a few, luckily) > Seems I have to rewrite a scene or two...oh, well.

Ok, I have to go now, see later.

"Certi giorni, non importa a che ora ti sei svegliato, la sfortuna era gi� in piedi da un'ora."
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, March 26, 2000 04:42:46 AM
IP: h213-20-44.mi2.albacom.net

\\\!///
('o--o')
--ooO--(__)--Ooo--
Anonymous
Sunday, March 26, 2000 03:36:11 AM
IP: spider-tn022.proxy.aol.com

Just popping in to say hello. :)

*wanders off to raise the mush level in the room a couple of degrees. >:)*
Fleur and Xanathar
Sunday, March 26, 2000 02:23:08 AM
IP: palo2.pacific.net.au

...
christy - [c]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:54:01 AM
IP: d1-52-151.icsnet.ca

...
christy - [c]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:53:51 AM
IP: d1-52-151.icsnet.ca

hello
christy - [christy @ lordco . com]
aldergrove, BC, canada
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:51:16 AM
IP: d1-52-151.icsnet.ca

Cartoon Violence> I'veseen some of the highly edited versions of the Daffy/Bugs/Elmer cartoons. Usually when Daffy gets shot at,they show Elmer pointing the gun, then they cut to a still of Bugs with the gunshotsound in the background, then returning back with Daffy's bill spinning around like a top. Patheticly bad editing and ruining the whole scene. I guessit might be considered a small blessing that they have quit showing the classic Loony Toons almost totally... Better they don't show them than hack them to pieces.

Notice for all D/FW folks> My club, the USS Sagittarius, is hosting our annual picnic/water gun fight over Independece Day weekend. It will be July 1st at DeBusk park in Mesquite. I'm issuing a blank invitations to everyone I can think of to come on out and join us. If you want some more info, just let me know...
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:45:47 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-37.ultravision.net

Off Yellow (Y O)

I'm rather tired right now, so small post for the new mp3, replies tomorrow.
Last week, I asked you to believe in love, and such a belief must make you feel nice (like sugar and spice). The new mp3 is James Brown's I Feel Good.
Gunjack> I took off the old mp3s, as you seem to have lost contact again. If you want anything I've posted, I can give you my AIM or ICQ info, then sent the files through there.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:31:26 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

SJ- regarding the make up of GvE- it's supposed to look that way and give the premise of a funky 70's show. Call me sentimental, but it makes me think of the origial star trek and 70s show I watched as a kid.

jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:29:07 AM
IP: 1cust163.tnt3.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Very good topic in Station 8 cr-- you all take a look, ya here! :P
jenna
Sunday, March 26, 2000 01:17:19 AM
IP: 1cust163.tnt3.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

**Mecord walks sorrofully into the CR**

I may not be able to visit much if at all in the next week or two. I just wanted to run in and say a temporary goodbye. :(

Mecord
Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:32:33 AM
IP: usr44.mtwest.net

Off-topic but cool -- new on the MageLore site is a copy of a review from TaleBones magazine, done by Magic: the Gathering artist Dameon Willich, as it happens! It's a great review, dead-on accurate about what's wrong with the book, a lot of fun. I also just got 3 new fanart pics, cool cool cool! Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

SJ > ooch, I must disagree ... better no Gargoyles than _bad_ Gargoyles; I thought it when Goliath Chronicles came out and I still think it now. Yes, we did survive it, but how many of us did so by ignoring it and trying to pretend it never happened? ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:22:10 AM
IP: 02-095.009.popsite.net

Just for the color test, posting in Off Red. ^_^

Robby> <<If Daffy being fired upon by a gun is now a problem in one cartoon, whats going to happen to all the Elmer Fudd bits where his beak gets blown sideways?>> Somehow I get the impression that it was the whole suicide thing that bothered the censors...

Gside> <<They're not too bad, at least on my emulator. I can usually get the Bum Rush off every time after a couple warm up battles.>> Heh...my problem is with ineptitude rather than technology; I can barely pull off the moves in a typical fighting game, let alone the algebraical formulas that Square has created for the Blitzes...

SOROW> Your post about your injuries came in while one of mine was posting, and I was too stupid to comment on it until now, which I will now do: <> AAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!! O_O' Hope that heals soon; that had to HURT. <shudder>

Kitainia> <<my sister Stephanie, who for some reason insists on always telling people all my flaws>> <blink> Have you...spoken to her about this? o_o'
Wilek Nereus
Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:07:52 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Coyote- sent the em again- third times the charm I hope!

^_^
jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:34:11 PM
IP: 1cust163.tnt3.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

***BEGIN RP****
Sammael set the shuttle for a return course back towards the Avatar of Ganon. He drew in a deep breath. "Okay, here goes nothing. We need to get back into the station and convince the Administrator to move the station out of orbit. And keep the heck away from that Quencher thing."
"What if the Administrator doesn't agree to moving the orbit?" Kari asked.
"Well, I'll sweet talk her into letting us do it. SJ can be very smooth with the ladies, as I understand."
Kair laughed. "No, SJ THINKS he's very smooth with the ladies."
"He seems to have enamored you a bit. Wink, wink."
"Ha, ha. Seriously, though, we need a backup plan. What if the Administrator doesn't believe us?"
"Easy," Sammael said with a smile. "That's what we have Dyspare for."
Dyspare, who had before been staring out into the void of space with something akin to peace upon his usually sullen features, turned towards his two companions. "W-what do y-you mean?" He stammered.
Sammael smiled mischieviously. "The password is, 'distraction!'"
*****END RP FOR NOW****

Aw, slow night tonight, but then again, it is the weekend. I had a relaxed day. Caught up on some reading, cleaned up the wasteland I call my bedroom, and spent some quality time with my dog. A few comments:

G. vs E.: Ugh....I'm sorry, I watched some of this show when it was on the USA network, and damn if it didn't bore me. I like the guy with the afro, but....I don't know, maybe it was the production values that turned me off the show. They've got some HORRID makeup going for them. When it comes to quality cable sci-fi, I still say Farscape is the best.

Kit: I'd recommend you give Romeo Must Die a chance. I can't say that for certain you would like it--some of the movies I've loved (and I really enjoyed Romeo) you and Doug have not cared for, and vice versa. But overall, I thought the movie was pretty good. The best part about the film, ironically, is not necessarily the action scenes, but the character development given to the characters. The scriptwriters and the director take the time to actually make you care about the characters and the events going on. It's not going to be nominated for next year's Academy awards, but I think it's an enjoyable film, and I'd suggest you and Doug give it a chance. :)

If Gargoyles came back bad: Please, does this question even need to be asked? I think that at this point we are all pretty much hopelessly addicted to the show, so we'd jump at a new series, even if it was an inferior product. Hey, we survived the Goliath Chronicles, didn't we? ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:19:48 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Apologies for the double-post ...

Jannie: I'm coming in the Monday prior and leaving the Monday after. Thankfully, though, I'm in no need of a rental car since XenaTrek's been kind enough to offer to be my wheels while I'm down there. (A good thing, too, since my status as credit card-less leaves me pretty much unable to rent a car)
Coyote the Bando
Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:09:41 PM
IP: zzz-209252248072.splitrock.net

Jannie: I sent off a brief note to Susan, she replied that she had received the money and was waiting for Northwest to issue my ticket (considering their recent computer troubles, it's kind of understandable), and she even attached an itinerary to the message ... which unfortunately I can't read because it's in a Mac format.

Jenna: I still didn't receive it, my e-mail was acting funky this afternoon (said I'd received two messages and didn't give them to me at all). Send 'em to the address below, it's my Motor Trend addy.
Coyote the Bando - [tazcaddy@vivavelocity.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, March 25, 2000 09:50:43 PM
IP: zzz-209252248072.splitrock.net

A quick post concerning G2K registrations:

As some noticed, I asked if anyone else who had already registered if they had heard back from the registration staff... well, I sent an email asking about mine and Den's since I hadn't heard back from them.
I received a reply stating that they did not have either one recorded as being received. O_O I mailed mine on January 5, 2000 and mailed Den's a week or so later.
I have carbon copies of all of my checks and have been able to locate the one that I wrote for my registration. I haven't found the one for Den's yet though. *sighs* I will now have to call my bank on Monday to see if my check cleared and if it has - have them send me a Xerox copy so that I can scan it and prove that I have paid... if not, then a stop payment on the check - either way, I'm out an additional $10-$20 for the bank fees for the services.
I'm at a loss as to how *both* checks have not been recorded as received - since they were separate checks and sent at separate times. *blinks*

So, if you have pre-registered already and have not heard back from the registration staff with a confirmation, I strongly advise that you contact them via email.
This would have been an embarassing and frustrating moment had I not known until check in time on that Friday!

Jenna> thanks! I will search the TV guide for the show and see what time it airs for my cable company :)

Coyote> did you hear from Susan yet? I haven't received my ticket either... it's been about 2 weeks now. Denis's didn't arrive to him for about 3 wks. I know that she has to receive them herself from the airlines first... I rarely fly ( I HATE flying) & have never dealt with a travel agent before, so this is all first time experiences for me :)
She was able to get me a packaged deal with the car rental and airline flight though =) Den and I will need a car since we'll be there for one entire week, otherwise I wouldn't have messed with renting a car. When are you planning on arriving in Orlando?

127 more days till I see Denis!! *happy feet dance* ;D
Jannie
Saturday, March 25, 2000 09:36:29 PM
IP: 216-90-185-182.hou.port.mytelco.com

CrzyDemona wrote: "I am still at a loss for Greyquin and Solarrin (although the guy from Princess Bride that says "Inconceivable" all the time reminds me LOADS of Solarrin)."

That would be Wallace Shawn, who also has appeared as Grand Nagus Zek on several episodes of ST:DS9.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, March 25, 2000 09:22:14 PM
IP: abdaf40e.ipt.aol.com

Greetings all...

Just wanted to pass on a word to everyone in here... thanks to some helpful college boys -- and a donated delivery truck -- myself, my missus and the lil one are moving into our new apartment as of tonight. When I get a chance to, I'll tell you all about the new place, but what this means in the immediate present is that I'll be offline for at the most a week. This is due to the fact we finally got two phone lines installed in the new place, and that I'll no longer be sharing my missus' ISP account.

I don't forsee me taking much longer to get my internet set up, but until that happens I'll be absent from here and from TGS for a bit (I'm one of the staff heads). I recommend that unless you really need to get word to me that everyone refrain from sending me emails or ICQ messages (there are exceptions, and they know who they are) for the next few days or so.

Looking forward to living in the new digs! And will be coming back to the CR soonest... so, until then, everyone take care, play nice and be good to each other.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:53:47 PM
IP: m175.ieway.com

I'm back....

heh heh heh

Well actually something big is happening.

Everyone knows Beast MAchines right? well at the Beast Wasr site some people are thinking about creating an on-line season 4 of Beast Wars to continue the show on-line...

something like TGS eh?

I was wondering...can you guys...the TGS concil...tell me what it was like the first time the idea of TGS was propsed? How were things taken care of......what rules did you set down? How do you agree on things?

Thanks!

Sarge

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre, VT, USA
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:46:37 PM
IP: spider-wc032.proxy.aol.com

**RP HERE**

In the Nielsen corporate offices in Los Angeles, a group of bureaucrats are discussing the television industry and ignoring the programs going on outside. "Alright," the one in charge is saying, "first off let's discuss WB. They've been showing basketball games recently, we want to keep rigging the ratings so these games get higher ratings than their show Buffy the Vampire Slayer." "Excellent idea!" smiles a ratings guy who's staying as far from the window as possible. "If Buffy gets off the air and stays off long enough, people will forget how to kill me!" He smiles a fang-toothed grin. "That's not our only reason," the Nielsen head person says. "We want to get all intelligent shows off television, so that only makers of dumb shows will be able to dominate the market. Currently they are among the richest people in America, and those who are able to churn out the most product. Clearly their volume is going to edge out the intelligent programs' quality in the future of television and through our control of the industry we are going to ensure this hypothesis is indeed proven true." "Excellent!" cheers a vapid female secretary. "By the way, why don't we, like, uh, tell WB to make more bland awfully-scripted and cliche-full 7th Heaven episodes, particularly ones starring Mary. I just love seeing the girl who plays her put in continual torture again and again!" "So do I," the boss smirks. "No amount of posing nude in magazines is ever going to get her out of the awful hell she is in. Also, ensure that the actors and writers of the show Felicity are continued to be fed behavior-altering drugs so that their show does not become good again like it used to be. And as for Buffy, let us continue to remind Mr. Whedon of his show's contracts and their limits so that it is gone as soon as possible. The basketball games' ratings should help remind him his show is bad." "Can we ensure that CBS also shows basketball games with high ratings?" someone asks. "They have three good intelligent shows called Early Edition, Walker, and Martial Law that have been pushed off the air in favor of such games lately." "Ensure it keeps happening!" the boss recommends. "I also want to ensure dumb sitcom shows like Friends get the highest ratings on their network so they'll think the public really wants more of them. I want Pokemon marketed to kids more and rated higher than any other cartoon show no matter how bad it gets! I want Matt Groening to keep on producing dorky Simpsons episodes to ensure his show gets kicked off the air and is replaced by a proper adult show that is not animated and never has an interesting plot! Tell Mr. Carter that keeps happening with new episodes of his X-Files! And tell our censor department to keep demanding that all intelligent cartoons edit out the violent scenes that help them get their points across, so that no one will continue to care about them. Make sure it happens with Gargoyles and Disney especially. Disney must continue to produce dumbed-down animation and they must never show intelligent episodes like 'Deadly Force' to the public again!" "They won't if we have anything to say about it, sir!" the ratings jerks all simulatenously declare. "Excellent," the boss chuckles maniacally as the screen fades out.

**CAN NIELSEN'S NEFARIOUS SCHEMES BE STOPPED? FIND OUT WHEN WE CONTINUE THE RP!**

Hi everybody! How are y'all doing? Good? <looks around> Well, there's not many ways that I can tell, but I hope you are. :) Doug and I are doing fine here in Austin, we're fully adjusted with getting back to school now and will be much happier once our weekend round of papers are finished. Don't know if anything will happen to make our lives come crashing down into the dumps afterward, hope it doesn't but worry always happens. :( So too does lack of time. I'll try to use what I have now to post as many replies as I can.

SOROW: Hey, since when is a long nose always a bad thing? I've been accused of having one myself in the past. That was before I got it broken one too many times hitting some a-hole's fist with my face. :) Afterwards I got a lot more compliments from guys on my looks, yeah, but once they heard from someone (usually my sister Stephanie, who for some reason insists on always telling people all my flaws) how my nose used to be and how it changed, most guys shut up whenever I was around. And those who gave me good compliments on my looks that remained were pretty much all guys I actually liked. <grin> My point- look for guys who are sincere in their comments about you and really want to be friends with you, who like you no matter how you look. Their opinion of your looks should only be second to your own, as they are your true friends and your run-of-the-mill jerk guy who just goes for girls based on looks should not be determining your standards of beauty. (The writing staff of most teen magazines are made up of such guys and the unfortunate girls they've suckered in IMO.) You should be doing that, you and those who like you for who you are. Face it, girl, there are people out there who think you are beautiful. Some of them have never even seen you either (though we hope to someday, whenever the scanner's hooked up). You are a wonderful person even with the flaws that your true friends know more about than anyone. Your personality's great and I'm sure that makes the looks wonderful too (at least in the minds of those who really care about you). Remember that, and learn who your true friends are, then rely on them, to truly have a fulfilling life. :) <advice dispensed, that'll be 5 cents, jk ;)> Oh, and I'm sorry about the scar, just remember they can be remainders of bad experiences you got through as well as marrings on your skin. <battle-wound> I can see you're looking at it that way already, never mind. :)

Mecord: No problem. Again, I'm sorry about the fanfic mixup. Thanks once more for the understanding. :)

Katara: Glad you're still feeling better. I also thank you for returning the well-wishes and prayers, hope they're not that necessary but they're good to have anyway. <grin>

David G: Good comments on what Sevarius did with the mutates. I thought you talked about biology well in there, even though I don't know halfway as much about it as you do (and as you know, that's really not a lot :( ). I too would like to see a Sevarius Island episode of some sort in the future, maybe I can convince Doug to have the Sevarius Overmind use the place as his private retreat while his clones do all his work for him. :)

Cherry Blossom: You're welcome. Glad you're doing better too.

Gside: Idiot male, huh? <grin, laughter> Okay, thanks for the clarification. Hope I've been able to remind you that there are better and more interesting things on the X-Files than just how Scully looks. :)

Silverstar: Good luck with the sickness and the move (hope you get rid of the one before the other happens, <gulps>). You will be im my prayers until the situations of hassle are over. <grin> I too don't much like all-guy-few-girl groups in superhero shows. Groups that are not like that have always interested me more, especially when the female characters are showcased. But then, I'm female, I am biased. :) Sorry I can't get into your gargs-prejudice debate right now, I'm a little too tired for it and I think most of what I would say has already been said already by someone else.

Shadowrider: Thanks for the encouragement. I'll have to remember those words more often. :)

Coyote: Hmm, yep, that store of yours definitely sounds like it needs a dose of reality or too. Maybe if you guys somehow brought your problems to the attention of the management...wait a minute, that might not be good. Never mind. I'm sure with the way things are going in your town the business will be straightened out with fewer problems if we just let things develop. Sooner or later, your managers have to wise up. Hope it's sooner, because you're my friend and I want to read WCC! :) And even if they don't wise up, you can always go to another store where you'll be better appreciated. That's the only good thing about bad jobs, they still give one experience. <sigh>

Jenna: Belated congrats on the wedding anniversary. May it not be the last. :) Congrats also to your sister-in-law and her husband on the child. It's a very wonderful thing bringing one of them into the world.

Jaden: Yeah, I noticed that. And when they got to Mars, it was all just so...disappointing. But as you know, that's only IMO, I'll quit talking about it.

Warpmind: Thanks for pulling Doug down from the ego pedestal, I was going to do it myself but I appreciated the help a lot. <smiles evilly at glare from Doug> Congrats on finishing that Beta program of yours, too, and glad your cold's better.

Firestorm: Thanks so much for updating the CR archive. The color I post in is white, but that's already on your list. :) I too hope to see more pics of characters (esp. Thersites, Harthoth, and Thailog) when the room recoding is complete.

Green Baron: Yep, I was union once. Even though Texas is a right to work state and it wasn't a job requirement, I still was. Why? Because the union guys had fixed things through politics to where they got the best salaries and benefits from the job and they also acted like jerks to all the non-union people. I did my best to avoid all that myself (and reap the higher benefits) by joining the union. Still something I regret doing. At least I stood up for the people who didn't want to be part of the union as much as I could while I was in. Didn't change things much, but I was an exception among the many rules. :) I too want one of the cars you do (the 71 mpg Hondas), if I ever get a car.

Selanit: Congrats on getting your own web domain. Remember to show us what's there when you put something up, okay? :)

DumlaoX: Thanks for stopping by, and glad you're still around, even if it's mostly in spirit these days. <sighs> We miss you, friend, and will continue to. Glad you were able to come in after a while and let us know you were still alive. :) Don't mention it about the thank-you, good luck continuing to handle the pain. Hope you feel better, or at least as good as you said you would, soon. :)

SJ: <It's not cool to date a guy old enough about your parent!> I can totally agree with that. I'd never do it myself. However if CZJ wants to do it, it's her biz and MD's, not anyone else's. Wish the media would remember that more. <mutters> I agree with you about Erin Gobraless by the way. As one of the many rebel chicks in the world who hate chick flick films I avoided it like the plague. :) <testicular cancer> Yep, that's a horrible disease alright. Hope no one I know ever has it. I too will be praying for Tom Green to come through his alright. As for that woman in Massachusetts, I too am apalled by her. Hope the judge administers an appropriate form of poetic justice and teaches her to laugh at people (you can probably guess what I have in mind).

Freud: As a psychology student I can agree with all who say the guy was obsessed with sex bigtime. Yeah, he knew his stuff as far as psychoanalysis, but he narrowed a very complex subject down way too much as far as causes IMO. Carl Jung was a guy from the same time who knew human nature a lot better and was more willing to recognize its complexity. It's good that most modern psychologists follow his teachings over Freud's. <grin>

**WARNING-SPOILER TERRITORY**

A Merrier Hour: Decent startoff for TD Season 3, I liked the Puck development and what was done with Brooklyn. I too had some problems with how he seemed to have forgotten about Sata so quickly, but Kyryn's little explanation of how he was dealing with the problem helped me get that sorted out (and I've also been psychoanalyzing Brooklyn some, oh boy :). Hope he is soon forced to face up to being without Sata, that could create some real character development I think. :) I too can see Sata on her own for a while with the kids before he comes back (can't help wondering how that'll turn out). Liked this ep's plot, though a lot more could and should have been done with its background and characters. I agree with many people that the ep was so short it seemed like filler more than a season opener, and I've never liked filler. Hope Timedancer doesn't have a lot more of it ahead. <fingers crossed> The pics in the ep were excellent as always, hope they soon will have more character development and entertaining stories to go along with them. Also hope the TGS writers will have the time to write those things into their stories soon, I know all too well from living with one how RL can force that not to happen. <snarl>

Weekend Media: No good films this weekend to comment on, Doug and I may go see Romeo Must Die sometime but we haven't yet. Did watch a very good episode of Max Steel this morning that really showcased the sports star dumb jerk mentality IMO, and did it in a good way while also developing the main characters. Wish Laura was more than just a pretty face (only reason I like Rachel better). The new Pokemon eps alongside it, as well as the new MIB and Batman Beyond ones, were unfortunately too typical for their fare (though it was a little nice to see BB back with a very intriguing theme and important real-life problem as its main conflict, Terry and Bruce's responses to it had nice writing too). :(

**SPOILERS END**

Pistoff: I too support your views of your workplace, if I had a job in a place like that I would have complained to the home office about it long ago. And also done things to encourage the other people there to work, such as making their TV plug-in cords convienently disappear, clocking people out if I don't see them working at times they should be in order to their paychecks at the proper amount they're worth (you'd be surprised how much this works, I learned it from Shauna's mom, who manages a grocery store in Amarillo); and constantly reminding them they need to be working like you're doing. More power to you, man, and hope the situation resolves itself soon. :) I also agree with you about the quality of Doug's fanfics improving over time (good thing, isn't it? :).

Thanks to Robby and Warpmind for stopping the most recent possible flame war. I had comments ready to try and end it myself, but I'll withdraw them now. Hope they are never needed. :) (BTW, please no one remind of Robby's post to stop referring to these things. I am not chastising anyone with these remarks, just reminding all how much the CR hates flame wars. Something that needs to be done, and I'm happy to do. :)

Mara: Good luck with those awful crackers/hackers/whatever and getting around them. You ever find out who they are, Doug, Gubio, and I will be happy to help you take revenge. :)

Bengali: I agree with you about the flame war, thanks for airing some of the comments I might have used to end it had there been the need. :) Not going to comment on your standards, but I'm glad you're willing to set them aside in order to enjoy a good story. Which Doug's are, I can vouch for that. I can also vouch for his honesty in describing his stories to you and saying they don't have raunchy sex in there (Doug hates that as much as I think you do, judging by your posts). I know you think I'm biased to say this because I'm Doug's girlfriend, I acknowledge that, but I'll say it just the same. :)

Fleur: Welcome back, and thanks for that interesting Backstreet Boys bit. :)

Zath: No, if Gargs came back as a bad show, I probably wouldn't watch it. I need a quality story and characters to keep me interested in TV shows, and a TGC continuation would very probably not have that. (Man it would be such a downer for Gargs fans everywhere as well as all the people who made Gargs originally if what you proposed were to happen. I really hope it never does.)

GXB: <The Get Doug and Kitainia to the Gathering Foundation> <sniffles> I really don't know what to say to this, except thank you. I am glad to have a friend out there who cares about me so much when they don't even know me. Thank you so much for this idea. If you can make it work, great, but I'll be honest, I'm not totally expecting it to happen. :( People have their own expenses to worry about in getting to the Gathering, and I think they should handle those before they worry about whether or not they can get me to go. After all, it just won't be worth it to go to the Gathering on someone else's tab and not get to thank all those someone elses personally. Not for me anyhow. :) Plus I'd much prefer to see all my friends having a good time than knowing they gave it up so I could have one (which would really not make me feel great). So, good luck with this enterprise. I can't say I don't support it, I do, I do want to go to the Gathering. But at the same time I can also live with it if that doesn't happen. I know how that sounds, but I can. <sigh> Thanks again, friend.

And I guess I'll leave now on that note. Not much more to say anyway. Have a good night, everyone. Later!

**RP CONTINUES NOW, APOLOGIES FOR LENGTH**

The screen flicks back on, to show the Nielsen boss pacing among his workers. "Now, let's see, we want to of course keep ensuring people will hate the news by putting dumb things on the news as well as too-violent and too-unimportant stuff. And we have to dumb down Star Trek, get it off the air, make way for more programming our rich idiot backers will like. And Power Rangers must stay dumb as well, I don't care how good it is in Japan or how good it can be here. It must stay dumb! Now, as for how we're going to force Hollywood to transform all its action movies into effect-driven slugfests without plot or character development..." Suddenly he is interrupted by a storm of rockets hitting the side of the building and blowing a hole in its wall. Storm Eagle and the Dirty Laundry Gang rush through the wall brandishing machine guns and ordering everyone to surrender and be afraid. "What is the meaning of this?" the Nielsen boss screams. "Security!" "Shut up, dickhead!" Staina snaps, spraying highly concentrated acid in the man's face and causing him to fall over and die screaming. All his clerks immediately raise their hands in surrender and the few security guards who run in are mowed down by a laughing Static, Bleach Man, Lint Man, Scrubber, and Socko, while Nylon Man shakes his head and tries not to watch. Al Detergent fires his gun into the air for attention and all eyes turn to him as Asil and James VanDerBeek walk into the building, the latter lowering his rocket launcher and smiling. "You're that Dawson's Creek guy!" the vampire Nielsen worker gasps. "We made you a star!" "News flash," the teen actor chuckles, walking over and grabbing the vampire by the lapels of his jacket. "I don't care about being a star anymore! I've found a new purpose in life, one I will now follow all my days." He grins at Asil. "The purpose of love! Go tell that to your pals in the press!" He chuckles maniacally and throws the vampire outside with a one-handed steroid-wired grip, grinning as screams come from outside even though he doesn't know their cause (vamp got vaporized by the sun, of course). "My God!" the vapid blonde shrieks. "You killed Roger!" "We shall kill all of you!" Asil snaps, aiming her BFG at the Nielsen employees. "That's what we're here for. To exterminate all of you, tear up your reviews and rating sheets, and burn your accursed company to the ground. So our master has commanded, but just so you know I'd be happy to do this even if I wasn't told!" "Why?" asks a clueless Nielsen worker, looking around at the DLG and their guns and trying desperately to keep his cool. "You should know, fool!" Bleach Man snaps. "All the damn good shows you've canceled. Baywatch, Melrose Place, Silk Stalkings..." "Uh, Bleach," Detergent interrupts. "Not all those shows were good." "It doesn't matter!" Storm Eagle growls. "These fools have canceled plenty of good shows just the same." Staina nods. "Bad ones have been cancelled by you too, but that's no excuse." "No excuse at all!" agrees Socko. "You people control an industry the artists and people who really care about it should control, that is one of the most unfair things in the world!" "We've seen that," Scrubber adds, Lint Man grunting in concurrence while Nylon Man puts his head in his hands. "Or our boss-lady has anyway, and we have the guts to show you your mistakes." "And so, on behalf of the fans of every good show you have ever canceled," Asil finishes the prepared speech, pointing her weapon at the Nielsen employees along with all her gang except for Nylon Man, "we shall now ensure that you all die!" They begin to laugh and open fire as the Nielsen employees begin to scream.

Meanwhile outside, the Onslaught (now back in truck mode so that it could fit under the highway's low-clearance signs) and Solomon Brand's limo are pulling to a stop. "This is the Nielsen Building?" Doug asks Brand, who nods. "Okay then, sorry we didn't have time for proper introductions, but we have to handle this situation." "I quite understand," Sol nods. "My associates and I are ready to back you up as soon as you go in." "Let's get to it then," Kit declares with determination in her voice as the Ravens start to hear the screams, shooting, and laughter from the other side of the building that means Asil is beginning her massacre. Most of them gulp as they register the meaning of the sounds, and draw their weapons in readiness. Kit looks at Doug as he and Grifix prepare to lead the Ravens in charge around the building and whispers, "I really hope we're not too late." Doug nods in agreement as the screen fades out.

**UNTIL NEXT TIME, WE MUST END RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:41:15 PM
IP: pool-209-138-201-167-dlls.grid.net

Hey everyone. Thanks to those who wished me well on my arm. The burn in actually healing up nicely and I didn't have to go to the doctor (my mom is one). So I guess I can just say it was a battle wound :)

Todd J.> Your second comment on "Sonovovitch" was hilarious! I laughed forever :)
SOROW
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:32:50 PM
IP: dll2a010-0577.splitrock.net

Jannie- it's on the Scifi network on Friday nights!

jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 07:39:45 PM
IP: 1cust226.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

If you love all gargoyles then look at these pictures of some figurines at this store http://kworkstowers.home.att.net/
Doug - [doug@decor2000.com]
Saturday, March 25, 2000 07:20:43 PM
IP: 211.portland-01-02rs.or.dial-access.att.net

Rodlox> I don't think that free will is violated for anyone. Sure, Brooklyn knows what Xanatos will do. He knows what *Xanatos* will do. Noone will act on Xanatos' behalf, noone will force Xanatos to act. That Brooklyn knows about Xanatos's deeds before he does them doesn't mean it's not Xanatos who decides to do them...

Same thing with history. That history remains unchangeable means that *deeds* and *choices* are unchangeable, choices made by humans, gargoyles and fays. The same way we always knew them to be. If history was changeable it would be then that free will would be non-existent since choices would have no meaning, and therefore free will would have no meaning either...

Yes, it's a weird thought, but a changeable history would create *far* more weirdnesses, paradoxes and free-will violations...
Anonymous
Saturday, March 25, 2000 06:28:53 PM
IP: athe530-o037.otenet.gr

Mara: "I've been having trouble with hackers as of late, the last and most evil thing happening being the stealing of my aol SN and changing my password." I really don't understand why soneone would do this. It is stupid and illogical. It is illogical because if they are deep enough in the systen to steal your SN and change your password, they might as well make and hide their own. It is stupid because by stealing yours, they are causing someone to make a fuss, which will cause someone else to go out yo find and tan their hides, whereas if they just made and hid their own, no one would be the wiser (that's the theory at least, things have possibly changed since I went code- diving on my Daddy's knee).

The sorry fact of the matter is that the goal is not what's important to these {censored Spanish cursing that would make your Mommy wash your mouth out with soap should you repeat}people. It's power. It's a big turn on for the smelly little geeks to be able to totally mess {imagine stronger word starting "Scre~"} up another person's system.
Mara
Saturday, March 25, 2000 04:37:04 PM
IP: spider-tk053.proxy.aol.com

Kyryn: i asked the difference to highlight what some people might have seen as the same thing for Brooklyn. {but thanks for the clarification!}!

Gside: actually, i think that Brooklyn and other TimeDancers {are there TDs other than his family?} are actually outside of the Free_Will-vs-UnKnowable question....but look at everyone else:

Brooklyn knows {or can look up} when Xanatos stocks plummet, which team of soldiers lost it for the Muslims in 778 AD {Poitiers/Tours}, the exact schemer behind the fall of the Second Temple, etc....

so my take on TimeDancer is that, while Brooklyn&co can display what appear to be premonition and magic, everybody else has no choices, no free will of their own.

sorry for any confusion.

Rodlox
Saturday, March 25, 2000 04:25:44 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Off Yellow (aka Tan)

Rodlox> <<[Brooklyn] has no free will!>>: He does, it's just that he also has a set personality that we know he will behave in a certain way in the situations he encounters, and each new situation changes his personality so he will do what he did in the next situation. His problem is just that he has already made all of his decisions, and he dosen't know if they were right.

Niamhgold> <>: Yes, but did you get $10 million out of it, and promise to drink nothing else, *ever* (even the water here is Coke).

Wilek> <<Florida's pretty flat too ..., from what I recall; it's one of the only states in the Union that's essentially all plains.>>: Yes, but the lowest highest point is in Delaware (thank you Moxy Fr�vous).
<<all I know is the melody>>: That's all right, I was only asking for something like decCg (Close Eoncounters of the 3rd Kind), or even the steps between the notes.
<<whoever thought up FF6's Blitz attacks ... is a certifiable sociopath>>: They're not too bad, at least on my emulator. I can usually get the Bum Rush off every time after a couple warm up battles.

Robby> Daffy cesorship: And what would they do about the one where he ingests black powder, trinitro toluene, nitro glycerine, U238, and then ignites himself?

JLA> <<the guy from Princess Bride that says "Inconceivable" all the time>>: That would be Wallace Shawn. (Thank you imdb (heh, he also did the Grand Nagus in DS9))

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Saturday, March 25, 2000 02:36:41 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Jenna> Good -vs- Evil sounds awesome! It's a TV show? If it is, what night, time and network?
Jannie
Saturday, March 25, 2000 02:16:30 PM
IP: 216-90-185-182.hou.port.mytelco.com

coyote- I sent it about two days ago- I'll send it again right now.

jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 01:00:22 PM
IP: 1cust51.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Jenna: If you've sent me e-mail today, I have yet to receive it yet.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:41:27 PM
IP: zzz-209252248053.splitrock.net

One more comment- hey what can I say- I'm on a roll!!

regarding Star Trek--**shakes head sadly.** I hate to see where it has gone. I for one will always favor the innovation and acting ability of the orginal cast above everyone else!

But you know one thing- I think some of this is the fault of the fans. (which I myself am). The fans just started accepting anything that had the startrek label, and thus it became possible to give them anything. Once you start giving blanket approval over anything with a label on it, then you can find yourself accepting bad writing because it has that certian label. Or written by a certian writer, or in a certian genre. I'm all for fans having their eyes open, and not being afraid to say they don't like this or that. For me- I don't like the bits of star trek because it's star trek, but becaue its a good story! The same with gargs or anything greg has done. I haven't seen "Troopers" yet, so I don't know about it one way or the other- but I won't like it because just greg did it (even though he is a great guy). I have to legitimately like it- and I probally will.

Anyway the point of this ramble is that I think Star Trek fans stopped demanding good stories from the writers, and that is why the series has suffered. YOu can have awesome special effects, awesome actors, but if your writers are terrible- the story is going to flop. But you can have a cheap budget, and have awesome stories- and usually it will sail. Even the best actor can't save a terrible script.

Now I hope I don't sound to harsh. I hope Star Trek will have a rennissance soon of good writing- perhaps this apathy is what they needed to make them wake up.

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Spoilers for other stuff-

TD- on my way to read it now- it's a reading weekend here!

God the Devil and Bob- now that this room has calmed down a bit- I can talk about this now. This show has a lot of controversy surrounding it, and I finally got a chance to see it last week. What can I say about?

What was the controversy about again? Perhaps the fact that this show was so BORING!!!!! If there was a crime against being boring and whiny, this show would be a hardoned felon. :p

Here is the events of what happens in the first ep. The devil whines, Bob whines, God acts disinterested, the devil whines again, Bob whines again and again. Bob's kid whines, his wife whines, his daughter whines- do I sense a trend here? :P

Then there is GOOD VS EVIL. Now this is an AWESOME SHOW!! The premise is that there is a war going on to save souls- the menions of satan- called Morlocks - stike faustian deals with mortals. They will get you this or that in exchange for your soul.

The two main characters are two fallen souls that were killed violently. After they die, they are given the choice- go to eternal damnation, or join the Core. The core is a force that battles the Morlocks and tries to get people to rennounce their faustian packs.

Now this has the possiblity of becoming very flat,and one sided. But nothing is as simple. For one- the main characters are not perfect by any means, and it is implied that neither is the core. In addition to this they are forbidden to contact anyone from their past or have intimate contact of anytype- violation of this rule results in being boosted out of the core and getting a one way ticket to down stairs. (The first rule is in place becasuse they had their chance in life- and now that they have died- the chance is over. The nono of sexual contact reminds me of the part of Geneis where the angels were said to have sexual contact with mortals, the product of which was the Serphim- a race of Giants. So there is some basis for their rule)

At any rate- the main character breaks the first rule, and gets in contact with his son. If it's found out by the authorities, he'll be in the hot seat- to say the least.

and it gets even more complex than that- the core is not beyond corruption, and hypocasy. And a very real way, those who are in the core are trapped- if they get killed by a morlock, they become one themselves. And in many cases, their hands are tied.

And there is the case of the faustion deals- if you renounce, you get your soul back, but you give up what you traded it for. And some people won't do it- there was the case of last night where a woman sold her soul to save her daughter's life- and she wouldn't renounce.

Personal beliefs aside- this is an awesome awesome show!! I haven't seen this type of character development since gargs and B5! And it's only on ep 3!

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End of spoilers!!
jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:33:14 PM
IP: 1cust51.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

coyote- did you get my em?

jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:54:36 AM
IP: 1cust51.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

coyote--regarding your story about your mom's last tour to duty-- boy that's incompetance for you.

GArg Prejudice---oh yes!! They most certianly can be prejudice, just like all peoples. And that prejudice doesn't always have to rear it's ugly head in the way it did with Demona. Greg was commenting on "Temptation" Brooklyn says "any species that has you for a member can't be all bad." He's not entirely free of prejudice either.

As for garg clans being prejudice against each other- I don't think this would take the form of racial prejudice, but more like "my clan in #1, and thus better than your clan." I think that is possible, after all who doesn't believe their home team is the best?! That is more a matter of pride and yes, arrogance, than anything else.
jenna
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:52:59 AM
IP: 1cust51.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Christine - RE: CotSB

Cat - Meg Ryan
Arien - David Bowie (NO SUBSTITUES!)
Alphonse - Bill Faggerbakke
Sybil - Kathleen Turner
Talus Yor - Greg Weisman ;) (woo! was that my own little fantasy kicking in there?)
Darkfire - Thom Adcox
Bostitch - Keith David or Michael Dorn
Rayke - Jeff Bennett
Jessa - Demi Moore

I am still at a loss for Greyquin and Solarrin (although the guy from Princess Bride that says "Inconceivable" all the time reminds me LOADS of Solarrin).

Oh well... my two cents ;)

BTW.. reached 20,000 hits on my web site! Thanks everyone!!
CrzyDemona
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:23:35 AM
IP: mp2e1.ez2.net

***Kyryn peers into the room***

Zath>Funny. You left Texas and went to California to attend USC. I grew up in Los Angeles, went to USC, and ended up in Texas. At least you will eventually be coming back to Texas. I escaped from LA and I'm not going back (except to visit the parents occasionally).

Rodlox> Denial is a stage of grieving, as is shock. Many people react differently to loss of a loved one. Some immediately go into loud grieving; some go through levels of denial up to totally denying that the person is permanently lost; some get angry at the person, god, life, etc. while looking for some reason for what happened; and some just simply bury it and go on with things as normal. A lot depends on the circumstances of loss. It is a lot harder if there is no closure. I am speaking as someone who has lost several people in my life and gone through most of the stages of grieving. It takes time and doesn't all come out at once. My husband spent three years going through a grief process when his younger brother died.

Gargs and prejudice> Gargs are intelligent beings with their own individual preferences and differences. With that in mind, I figure that there is indeed room for prejudice in the species just as there is any any group of individuals. Prejudice results from opinions formed by the actions of others or opinions learned from others. This results in a generalized opinion or attitude towards another group or species. Demona is a good example of a prejudiced garg. She hates all humans because of what some did to her family and friends.

***Kyryn takes off***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:03:02 AM
IP: 216.35.46.135

SJ> Star Trek>> I'm not one to bet on an all Borg series, just too much makeup and prostetics to make it work right. They have said beforethey weren't going to do a seriescentering on the Klingons because of the continued expense of making up a whole cast of Klingons every day, so I doubt the Borg rumor is any more true...

Berman and Braga are definetly the blunder twins. Obviously the numbers of fans that say they are in support of doing an Excelsior show mean nothing to them. It obviously means nothing to them that the these people are the bedrock of the franchise. I do wish they would get it through their thick heads that doing a old cast revival might benefit the franchise more than runing one of Trek's most popular villians...
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:54:35 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-14.ultravision.net

I just saw something that rather bothers me.

I'm sure most of you in here have at one point or another seen the Daffy Duck cartoon, "The Scarlet Pumpernickel", which is a spoof on Zorro and other such things. The whole cartoon is about Daffy reading a script and trying to sell a story, the end result being the producer is not impressed and says "Is that all?" Now, what happened before was Daffy would then go "Is that ALL? NO! With no recourse left to him, the Scarlet Pumpernickel pulled out his gun and blew his brains out." (Or something like that.) Comedic gunshot, and we see the charred Daffy noting "Its getting so that you have to kill yourself to make it in this buisness nowadays." And now... The sequence is cut. Its just Daffy saying "Is that all?" and then a cut to his charred remains with the last line. Now, I can understand the reason for cutting this bit since it basically shows Daffy shooting himself in the head and surviving, except the way its cut, it makes no sense now and totally ruins the joke! And this worries me... If Daffy being fired upon by a gun is now a problem in one cartoon, whats going to happen to all the Elmer Fudd bits where his beak gets blown sideways?

Oii, I hate censorship...
Robby
Saturday, March 25, 2000 08:16:32 AM
IP: spider-wn061.proxy.aol.com

Posting in Dark Blue this time, to help with the color thing. ^_^

Fleur> Welcome back! :D Torture In A Backstreet> <LOL> This reminds me of when this was done with AC/DC's music against Manuel Noriega. When one of the band members learned that their music had been used for psychological torture, he shrugged, "I guess now we won't get to play for the Pope." hehehe

Zath> <<Suppose Gargoyles was resurrected for another season, but due to various problems and bureaucratic screwups the new episodes were complete garbage. Would you watch it anyway, or ignore it and refuse to recognize the new eps. as cannon, continuing TGS instead?>> Except for the long cancellation, that basically happened when The Goliath Chronicles started. It was so awful as to be near-unanimously retconned by the entire fandom; I expect the same would happen again--except, this time, Disney would have dashed the hopes of hundreds, possibly thousands, of in some cases heavily armed people who have been longing for this moment for years, in which case, I see the entire fandom undergoing the emotional equivalent of nuclear meltdown by the end of the first ep and Eisner's head on a pike by the end of the second. <<"USC Mobile Dental Clinic." (yes, such a thing really exists, and it is frightening to behold)>> :O The horror...the horror...Glad you've decided to put it to a good use. >;) <<Hey, some of my best friends are gastropods! Well, actually, that's not true, but I like snails, and sea slugs are really cool looking. Would you be satisfied just wiping out garden slugs?>> Hm...snails destined for consumption are raised in captivity rather than the wild, right? Then I suppose I could simply destroy the wild populations...<> Lovely. What'd you watch when you were 9, Faces Of Death? ;P j/k

Alex> <<What do ya think people?... Gargoyle Senshi or Fey Terror?>> Why not alternate between the two? ^_^

Todd> <<TWO IDEAS FOR TIMEDANCER BROOKLYN VISITING RUSSIA THAT WE PROMISE NEVER TO USE IN TGS>> Oh I don't know; the first would be hiarious if modified a bit and the second would make a good in-joke if the punchline were interrupted somehow. ^_^

Flat Land> Florida's pretty flat too (at least it was, before a whole bunch of tall buildings started sprouting there), from what I recall; it's one of the only states in the Union that's essentially all plains. (Pretty much the whole thing was swampland before it became a people trap operated by a mouse.)

Fire Storm> <<Bryce or Poser. (you can find them for $200 each or $300 for all three>> OuchiWAWA. >_< I think I'll wait until I'm in more complete control of the nation's financial resources before sinking THAT kind of ca$h, I mean there's no guarantee I'll ever be able to learn to use the things (I can't even make a working Doom level)...

Green Baron> <<The R rating is a poor indicator of a story and given for various reasons.>> True. The main reason most of my stories get R ratings is because of blood. I can't even figure out why The Matrix was rated R--no real nudity, language was about PG-13, and there wasn't much gore to speak of--violence, yes, but I've seen bloodier comic books. <<Wyoming has been breeding cattle and buffallo to come up with beefalo.>> O_o Aren't those...different species...?

Gside> <<Do you know the note progression for that?>> Um...all I know is the melody (I don't even know the title; I had to make up a name for it when I saved the MID file). :} <<Want me to post anything? 5 translated? Full version of 4 (2)? 1-3?>> Ehhh...no thanks; the two full ones are already proving too much for my poor little two-volt brain to handle (especially since FF7 erased my saved game just as Vincent joined the team and I haven't had the courage to try it again, save for clowning around in the Debug Room). ;P Oh, and by the way, whoever thought up FF6's Blitz attacks (I think that's what they're called; Sabin's special moves) and FF8's Junction system is a certifiable sociopath. o_o

Selanit> POV-Ray> OOOOoohh...<downloads> Hope I can use this...

Greg XB> <<The Get Doug and Kitainia to the Gathering Foundation>> Wish I could contribute. :} Great idea, though!

Delphi> A Cup Of Coffee> >_< <speechless>

Coyote> Gate guard thing> Wha... :O OK, when I am in control, I am gonna track down the rocket scientist who thought that one up and relocate him to a house that has trap-filled mazes in front of every door, including the bathroom. See how he likes it.

Cyborg> <> He is, in the Genesis game (or at least on the Continue screen, which is all I've been able to see of the thing <administers concrete enema to DC>). ;P

SJ> Borg series> Fascinating...Maybe there'll be more diverse drones, something like the novel The Return (the scuttlers ROCK). ^_^ <<what the day care center *manager* did. She's the head of the center, right? She's in trouble for DUCT TAPING a toddler to a wall. She DUCT TAPED the damn kid to the wall and watched it squirm. Her reasoning? It seemed like a funny thing to do.>> :O <aneurysm> sdnfpqwhfpsbvsvhpgsrf

Racism> It was industrial propaganda...?! :O
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, March 25, 2000 03:17:18 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Sorry for not posting, been a little busy.

Mutate Reproduction- Well if I was an evil, insane genious like Sev. (oh yeah, I can see that one happening) I would want to make sure that they could have offspring as a sort of experiment.

Gargoyles be prejudice- I would think so, remember Demona really, really hated all humans no matter who they were. I don't think it would have anything to do with appearances since they all look different. Like everyone else they have the ability to over come it.

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos
Saturday, March 25, 2000 02:02:24 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Hey everyone, I'm going to a jazz contest tomorrow(I play lead alto sax in the highschool jazz band) wish me luck. My rock band is also playing at some girls birthday party too. that's gonna be fun:)

SOROW: I love you my beautiful wingless angel. I'll call you tomorrow.
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:35:39 AM
IP: spider-wc041.proxy.aol.com

***BEGIN RP***
Kari looked on in shock at Sammael. "What do you mean you're gonna have to knock the Avatar out of orbit?"
"As it sits right now, it's locked in a precise coordinate that will allow Mephisto use it to open a gate and commence the Shattering. We can't let that happen. The Avatar is going to have to move out of its present orbit." Sammael explained.
"What are going to do, then?" Kari asked, a frown on her face. "Just walk up to the Administrator and say to her, 'Hi, you don't know my friend here, but he's a demon possessing my boyfriend's body, and he says that unless we move the Avatar out of orbit real quick, the gates of Hell will open and we'll be up to our 'pits in oogey creatures from the netherworld.'?"
"Well, actually, that's exactly what I was going to do. From what I've gathered from SJ's memories, strange things seem to happen to you-all on a regular basis."
Kari sighed. "Alright. We'll try it. But if she says no, or she doesn't believe us?"
"We'll deal with that when it comes to that."
"We have one big problem, though!" Dyspare wailed. "That Quencher thing is still onboard the station! Maybe the Seeker took care of it, maybe not. But for sure, if Deavik sent it, it'll want a piece of our hides the minute we step back on board."
Sammael smiled. "Oh, I've got an idea of how to deal with her..."
***END RP***

Ah, another weekend upon us. I have a big one planned--I'll vegetate on the couch some, then probably play some video games (WWF Smackdown for Playstation rules!!!), then vegetate some more, maybe take a nap. This weekend is livin' la vida slacker.

Star Trek news and stuff: Okay, on with the latest news on the Star Trek franchise. Official word out now is that next season will be the last for Star Trek: Voyager. For some odd reason, I'm shedding no tears. Also being confirmed is that executive producer Brannon Braga will be leaving the show after this year to work on the NEW Trek series. Here's where my blood pressure begins to rise.
***RANT COMING ON***
After much questioning as to exactly what the series will be about, we've finally gotten a big hint. Apparently, the well must NOT be dry completely yet, because Wonder Twins Braga and Berman ("Form of a bad producer!" "Form of--an even worse producer!" Wonder twin powers, activate!) are going to focus the series on the one thing that Trek fans actually still enjoy--the Borg.
Dear God, I can smell the desparation coming from these two. After MONTHS of rumors that every single proposal they handed to Paramount was rejected, they finally come up with the Borg. I *loved* the Borg. The Borg were THE badass villains of the Trek universe. This was before Voyager. Now the Borg...well, the Borg have been *raped*. I saw a Voyager episode a month or two ago where the main antagonists were Borg *children*. The well HAS run dry. This is like the serpent feeding on its own tail. Voyager sucks and sucks hard, and these two schmucks (and WHY are they still running things??) are gonna completely destroy whatever coolness are left in the Borg....Christ, is this what Trek has come to? I can remember when the franchise was entertaining. But it's an empty franchise now. They are completely bankrupt of any creative idea.
***END RANT***

Speaking of Star Trek....the debate of Kirk vs. Picard has become perhaps THE most heated debate in the annals of geekdom. Kirk is more headstrong and reactionary. Picard is more thoughtful and strategically minded. I'm biased toward Picard; I loved Next Gen. I grew up on it.

Gargoyle Discrimination: I do not think it's fair to make a judgement on whether Gargoyles discriminate or not based upon current conditions. In my opinion, given an even playing field...Gargoyles would be JUST as likely to discriminate against their own kind. The difference is that there are so few of them, and their numbers have always been small. As such, they can't afford to be prejudicial. Every Gargoyle is part of the family. But realistically, if there were a greater number of Gargoyles--say, a nice round number like 1 million--I'd bet the bank you would find discrimination there. It doesn't have to be based upon skin color. Could be based upon familial ties, or other social differences. The thing to remember is the typical ingroup/outgroup hostility. Since Gargoyle numbers are so small, we don't really see this. But if the population were suddenly to explode, I'm positive that you'd see the same type of Wolfpack syndrome humans exhibit. Gargoyles, in my book, have as equal a capacity for discrimination as humans.

But Zath brought up a good point. How many of you know that racism and prejudice against blacks was something that was caused not because of innate discrimination, but because of the industrial development of America? I did a college paper on this a year ago. Racism in this country, against the blacks and against the Native Americans, began as a conscious and subconscious mental technique by the aristocrats to excuse away their horrible crimes against human rights. In the 16th or 17th century, Europeans would travel to Africa on expeditions, and would return with nothing but the highest PRAISE for the African nations they studied and visited. I pulled a direct quote that basically said that the Africans were among the most intelligent, beautiful people on earth. Yet a couple hundred years later, we have these same people in chains and some very misguided scientists were trying to prove medically that the average black man's brain was smaller than the average white man's. They knew the horrors that they committed, and they came up with this inferiority BS to justify treating another human being like an animal. Unfortunately, this was in practice for a couple hundred years. Recovering from a line of thinking that was taught to virtually all white children practically since birth is still an ongoing process.

Oscar Stuff: Did anyone check out the Wall Street Journal Oscar poll? If it's accurate, we can expect those individuals named to receive the big prize this Sunday. As usual, I hate the majority of the choices made (I could give a rats ass about Kevin Spacey, American Beauty, or Haley Joel Osmet), but there is one thing I did enjoy seeing. Everyone thinks Annette Benning is gonna win, right? Looks like the award could very well go to Hilary Swank. God, I hope that's true. I can forgive every other horrid move the Academy makes, every award they give to an undeserving individual, just as long as she walks away with that statue.

Warning: Nauseating story ahead!
I had to repeat this in here, cause it's more evidence in my growing belief that the world may very well actually be going to hell. In Massachusetts this week, a day care center got its license revoked. The usualy laundry list of disturbing neglects of children were present, but the one that blew me away is what the day care center *manager* did. She's the head of the center, right? She's in trouble for DUCT TAPING a toddler to a wall. She DUCT TAPED the damn kid to the wall and watched it squirm. Her reasoning? It seemed like a funny thing to do. I...I find this thinking so utterly wrong that my mind is numb.

Pistoff: Glad you got my email, and that we agree on the situation. I'm with you, bro.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 11:44:38 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

maybe Brooklyn's not in denial at all....maybe he's in shock....what's the difference between the two? {can anyone tell me?}.

Rodlox
Friday, March 24, 2000 11:05:02 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

I'm glad I was able to get in before the room wipe, I was a little worried that I wouldn't be. I really hate mid- terms.

Christine: I don't think these stories would be appropriate in that case. They are very violent, but I can't remove the gore- bits because the different reactions the main characters have to their near- identical actions is the entire point of both stories.

Pistoff: "They're shooting at giant bugs. How many different plots can you build around such a limited idea?" The war is not the idea Heinlein wrote about (or the idea the show is supposed to be about), the war is the context in which all the real conflict (therefore plot) is placed in. The plots are the reactions of the characters to various situations, and there are many possible situations in war- settings (definitely not limiting), which would be why war is a popular place for stories.

Can gargoyles be prejudiced?: I think that if gargoyles were to be prejudiced, the prejudices would have nothing to do with appearances, due to the wide veriety of gargoyle appearance. Rather, prejudices would be idealogical: "I hate you and your clan because your protectorate is a forest and mine is a castle, that means you are not real gargoyles." or "I hate you and your clan because you live along side humans, you can never be real gargoyles because you are too human." and so forth.

Aaron: "kinda like Goliath, eh?" I must be colour- blind, because I always thought Goliath was grey.

Mara: "I've been having trouble with hackers as of late, the last and most evil thing happening being the stealing of my aol SN and changing my password." I really don't understand why soneone would do this. It is stupid and illogical. It is illogical because if they are deep enough in the systen to steal your SN and change your password, they might as well make and hide their own. It is stupid because by stealing yours, they are causing someone to make a fuss, which will cause someone else to go out yo find and tan their hides, whereas if they just made and hid their own, no one would be the wiser (that's the theory at least, things have possibly changed since I went code- diving on my Daddy's knee).

That's all I can think of for now, au revoir. *she goes off to the waiting room for her 3000 mile check- up, where she hopefully will be able to read the new TD, which she hasn't had time to yet, because of those <bleeping> mid- terms.*

colour: indigo
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, March 24, 2000 10:52:48 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Color: Cyan. Hmm, I'm not going much for diversity here, am I?

My friend (correction, my not-engaged or marriage-pending friend) and I have decided to join forces against the evil of the Wedding Bouquet. We're bringing tennis rackets :), garlic, a flamethrower, and some helmets. And, just for backup in case anything goes wrong, we're gonna borrow some presidential snipers and have them perched at the ready. >:} I can almost imagine the whole scene breaking into a Midsummer Night's Dream fiasco--maybe I should also carry some heavy iron!

I cringed when they started discussing the *color* of the bridesmaid dresses. Still, at least there's free plane tickets!

Shadowrider: I think it's ten years for a gargoyle egg to hatch...but, somehow, I think twenty years is the value for something (maybe the time between breeding seasons, right?) It's not just fanfic speculation; back in Disney Adventures they printed up "Gargoyle Facts" from the show, and one of them mentioned something about a garg egg taking ten years to hatch. Kinda...convenient, doesn't anyone think?

Jannie: Thanks for the link! I E-mailed one of the organizers and got the art show thing sorted out :)

Gargoyle prejudice: I have to say, I don't think there was ever an issue with skin color in the clans. Nor with other features. I mean, Goliath's a pretty old-fashioned guy, and if anyone's gonna hold some prejudice, it would probably be him. But he never gawked at Una, Leo, or Griff. Gargoyles are most likely less prejudice because of the way they raise their children; none of them claim their biological children as their own, therefore there's no competition in trying to prove one's offspring is "better" than another by pointing out skin color or feature differences.

Selanit: Checked out your link :) I'm young yet, but I have some interest in 3D modeling. Going to minor in it at college, I hope. My dad does it as part of his job; he has Moray and POV ray, but rarely puts them to use.

Mara: My MANY sympathies on those juvenille hackers! The sad thing is...they either work for Bill Gates now, or will, one day. ;P

Delphi: Hope the addition on the Garden shop keep going well!

Gside: You sold your souls to Coke; Zath sold 'em to Pepsi. Sadly, I sold mine to coffee (Folgers, more specifically) and that's why I gave it up for Lent! :)

Yess! I don't have to go to the old Eternal Black Hole!

Off to buy a high-dosage herbicide canister to tuck under my dress at the wedding(s). ** Laughs maniacally, like Demona ** The puny flowers must die! All of flowerdom must die!

Uh...okay, maybe not that extreme :). In either case, I've gotta get going.

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 10:17:40 PM
IP: ncia104n.ncia.net

(Plain Orange)

Quick words for the evening.
Timedancer season III-I agree with just about everything that is already been said, but more so than any of them with the fact that he took the fact of being ripped away from his sick wife and unborn children a bit too lightly. I'm just going to assume, like mentioned by others, that he's just in a state of denial and that his true feelings are yet to come.

Rodlox- Well I usually don't like discussing time paradoxes and alternate realities because frankly it gives me a headache. But on what you said earlier on a Goliath comment and about Brooklyn changing the past, you also have to look at it in the sense that he is just filling in his roll that he was destine to do since before he had hatched. It really just breaks down to how you, the reader wants to take it. I inflict my personal opinion upon no one because it's just that, an opinion.

Christine-CotSB voices- I can see Arian having an astute British accent. Can't think of anyone in particular at the momment, have to get back to you on that one.
(Again, my personal opinion is not to be taken seriously, because no one ever takes it that way, thanks.)
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
hell, tx
Friday, March 24, 2000 10:17:11 PM
IP: spider-wd032.proxy.aol.com

AAARRRGGGHHH AGAIN!

I meant to say "In the last sentence of my response to Green Baron and Doug" in my last post.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 09:21:30 PM
IP: spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com

AAARRRGGGHHH!

I meant to say "Story" and not "Stories" in my last sentence.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 09:19:49 PM
IP: spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com

Color-Sky Blue

Poll Update!

Poll #1>If Gargoyles was to get back on the air what rating would you want for it to be?

1.Y=0 votes
2.Y-7 or G=4 votes
3.PG=3 votes
4.PG-13=15 votes
5.R=0 votes
6.No constriction to ratings=1 vote
7.Whatever Greg wants it to be=1 vote

TV-14 and PG-13 won this one.

Poll #2>If Gargoyles was to get back on the air which of Gregs proposed spin-offs would you want to be made?

1.New Olympians=0 votes
2.Gargoyles=11 votes
3.Pendragon=0 votes
4.Timedancer=9 votes
5.Bad Guys=2 votes
6.Dark Ages=1 vote
7.Gargoyles 2158=1 vote

Gargoyles won this one.

Doug and Green Baron>I do sometimes read R-rated stories, but in general I do not read them, particularly ones with sex, I dont mind mind some mature themes much but I dont like stories that focus on or have extremely graphic depictions of gratuitis violence, swearing and sex {not that I'm saying that Dougs stories have that, but alot of the fics I've read in the archives do}, if the things that Doug has listed are all that are in his stories then I probably will read it.

Wierd Gargoyles dreams>This subject is dead so I dont think I'll comment on it.

I'll finish this later!, Bye!
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 09:17:23 PM
IP: spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com

ps: will Brooklyn and/or Sata meet up with the most important person to Western _and_ Eastern civilizations? {Temijiun {i may've misspelledd his name}: Gengis Khan}.

hhmmm.....Sata TimeDancing on her own....interesting idea, right?

+++the following is related more to the 'why wasn't brooklyn worried in the TD ep recently posted?'

actually, what should disturb Brooklyn {TimeDancer} than anything else {though it'd rank up with Sata}....is the fact that he has no free will!

think about it: history appears to be locked in place, from prehistory to the distant future. one might argue that the past has to be locked down, else he'd be voyaging through hundreds of alternate histories {which is a great idea though}. but didn't Goliath say {"future tense"?} that the future is unwritten? Brooklyn might disagree....

is all the changes muted by the vast bulk of time/history? is _everything_ in the gargs universe a matter of being fated for something? {i'm not complaining, just wondering}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 08:45:56 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Silverstar: Actually, *both* my parents were 20 year Navy ... my dad retired six years before mom did (they were divorced by that time). Both of 'em had to deal with their share of bureaucratic idiocy ... maybe sometime in the near future ya might hear about Dad's encounter **wrings hands sneakily**, but I definitely remember the particulars of Mom's ... it involved gate guard protocols. See, on her last tour of duty (NAS Barber's Point, HI) she was trained as a backup gate guard and occasionally had to do gate duty in addition to her normal job with her unit (FMPMMF Delta ... I still have a hat from 'em, might bring it with me to Orlando). Thing was, they were kind of paranoid about terrorist attacks, so they wanted backups at the gates. Here's the problem they presented:
The gate guard has a gun. The backup does not.
The gate has an M16 in a *locked* safety case. The gate guard has the key to the case.
The M16 is also not loaded. The gate guard also has one clip of bullets for the gun.
In the event of a terrorist attack, should the gate guard go down, it's the job of the backup to procure both the key and the clip from the fallen guard, open up the case, get the M16, load it, and *SINGLEHANDEDLY* hold off the terrorists until backup arrives.
Another thing to keep in mind ... my mother is 5' 2". The M16 is designed to be fired by someone who is six feet tall. When my mother fired a full-size M16 in a training exercise, it nearly ripped off her right arm with the recoil. Incidentally, she's also left-handed and was being trained to fire a right-handed rifle.
Bureaucrats rule the system ... sad but true.

Oh, and might I add a little in the debate about "where the hose goes when the planet gets its enema?" Two possibilities ... one being my town which is basically the middle of nowhere. Other was put forth by military fiction author Stephen Coonts, who said the hose would go in Olongapo City, the Phillippines. (no offense to any Phillippine lurkers, it was an opinion voiced by a character in the novel)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, March 24, 2000 08:13:55 PM
IP: zzz-209252248166.splitrock.net

GB- yep, those are the names they are going to use- I think there pretty cool ! ^_^
jenna - [theamazingjenna@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 08:10:14 PM
IP: 1cust18.tnt6.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Color = Pale Yellow

Jannie> <<you want to move to west Texas?>> No, I was responding to Warpmind's comment that he wanted to move to Texas to get away from the coast. I already live in Texas : ) Well, technically I live in Los Angeles right now, but I lived in TX for my last 2 years of high school and it's where my "permanent address" is, so I'm still officially a resident and I will be returning there for the summer. <<Yeah, it's God's place... God and the Devil flipped a coin and God lost..>> **LOL**

Green Baron> <> Parts of it are pretty high, but te campus is near downtown, so it's in the flat low part. On days when it's so smoggy the mountains can't be seen, it feels like I'm back in Texas. <<but this city was built over a swamp 280 years ago>> Sounds like it would have more mosquitoes than I would care to put up with. <<breeding cattle and buffallo to come up with beefalo>> But can the beefalo breed and make more beefalo?

Gside> <<sold our souls to Coke>> Our souls were apparently sold to Pepsi.

silverstar> <<If you don't like nature or winter sports then don't go>> I like nature, but I prefer warm nature. ; ) <<In a gargoyle society I really don't think it would be reasonable to discriminate against skin color. (of course I don't think it is in human society either)>> The prof of my diversity class was recently talking about how the modern prejudices about people with different skin colors arose to justify the continued growth of the slave trade. Previously slaves had just been people who had been on the losing side of a battle and such, so anyone could end up a slave, all it took was bad luck. Then, as the trade grew, people started going and fighting specifically to get slaves, and to justify their actions, they said the people they conquered were inferior, with their different skin color supposedly indicating other, non-visible differences, so they deserved to be slaves. This idea perpetuated through the years until people believed it was a fact rather the bad excuse it started as. If gargs didn't have anything like that in their history, they probably wouldn't have prejudices about something as inconsequential as skin color. However, they have been shown to have prejudices about other things, like when the more human looking gargoyles were fighting the Tengu. I wonder if there was ever any friction between the bat/pterodactyl winged gargs and the webwings. Maybe that was what caused the trolls Brooklyn met with Amleth (sp?) to branch off from the rest of the species.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:56:42 PM
IP: ppp-229-149.usc.edu

Hi all! (color: dark magenta)

Just stopped in to catch up quickly, before I move on to other things.

Good news on the Garden shop addition, they are finally making progress on getting the necessary agreements for the permit to be issued. The goal is to be able to start building in July...so I'll feel better though once we have that all important piece of paper in OUR hands.

Here is a little funny to brighten up your day:

A Cup of Coffee

>A sweet little boy surprised his grandmother one morning and brought her a cup of coffee. He made it himself and was so proud. Anxiously, he waited to hear the verdict on the quality of the coffee.

>The grandmother had never in her life had such a bad cup of coffee, and as she forced down the last sip she noticed three of those little green army guys in the bottom of the cup.

>She asked, "Honey, why would three little green army guys be in the bottom of my cup?"

> Her grandson replied, "You know grandma, it's like on
TV,...

"'The best part of waking up is soldiers in your cup.' "

Delphi quickly leaves BEFORE anyone can find any rotten fruit, tootles everyone!

Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:34:06 PM
IP: twin56n.magiclink.com

Color= powder blue

Strange situation. My neighbors are moving out of their house at about the same time we have to move, so there might be a possiblity that we can move into their house. I told my friends about it and they were happy I might not be moving so far away but they had a look on their face that read "WHAT?"

Coyote>I loved Alaska! Really, if you *ever* get a chance to go then do so! It is very beautiful, and the skiing/ice skating is great! If you don't like nature or winter sports then don't go. I liked going on boat rides on the ocean up there and I am scared to DEATH OF DEEP WATER!

Also, noticed that you said your mom got out after 20 years. So you know how my parents feel, huh? They are trying to get aou ASAP.

Rodlox> I don't know if I can see them in a jihad, so I won't even try. I don't think I voiced my opinion in this, so I will now. I too think that gargs can be prejudice, but it would be hard to descriminate against skin color, considering that, well, they vary a lot. 'Sides if a garg was prejudice against, let's say, green skin, and had a green skinned kid, even though they were mated to a purple skinnned garg, what would they do with the kid? In a gargoyle society I really don't think it would be reasonable to discriminate against skin color. (of course I don't think it is in human society either) I could, however, see a gargoyle from one country discriminating against a gargoyle from another country. (as in "Bushido" ep.)

SOROW> OH NO! and YUCK! Your skin melted off?! I'm so sorry! Did you go to a doctor? If not then you should, unless you have a fear of the doctor. (I do) I hope it feels better soon, although I doubt it! *HUGS*

Warpmind> : )

Green Baron> Just trying to warn ya! Thanks for considering the advice I gave,(more like yelled, I know:)) but ya wouldn't want to get stuck in a bad job, right?

Mara> Never happened to me (hope it never does), but here's wishing that they quit! ;)

Gotta go clean my room:p then gotta feed the cats (yes I am a cat person! And durn proud of it)
*BYE!*
silverstar
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:26:25 PM
IP: l1p01.dav.mother.com

Mr Jensen: <<Russia was Ivan the Terrible. I was a little nervous that our readers might not make the identification, but it seems that at least one did. Congratulations!>> i wasn't sure if Ivan The Terrible was Ilya or Ilya's cousin, given the rate of lingual shifts over the centuries.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:05:52 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

DOUG - A couple of comments on your comments. (And don't worry, I'm not really upset by your pointing out the nits).

1. I'm actually pleased that you noticed that "Tsar Ivan Vassilovitch" whom we credited with massacring the gargoyle population in Russia was Ivan the Terrible. I was a little nervous that our readers might not make the identification, but it seems that at least one did. Congratulations! (Of course, given that Ivan the Terrible is the best-known "Tsar Ivan" in Russian history, it might have been obvious).

2. Truth to tell, I was wondering when somebody who read this story would get a Buffy crossover creativity demon for it after seeing Anya's name. (There's no special significance here; "Anya" is merely the Russian variant of "Anna", which was her name in the first draft).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, March 24, 2000 06:44:10 PM
IP: 216.87.46.176.dialup-stl.primary.net

Green Baron > there are a few of Sybil, three or four I believe, and I'm told I should be seeing a new one this weekend. All the Curse of the Shadow Beasts pics can be found at http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/art_gallery.html or click below.

Voice casting CotSB > Crzy and I were joking this morning that we could damn near do the whole thing with all Gargoyles people; Keith David as Bostitch, David Warner as Solarrin, Marina Sirtis as Sybil (sumptuous? I think so!), Thom as Darkfire, Michael Dorn as Alphonse, Jeff as Greyquin, Tim Curry as the Archmage Selbon, Greg as Talus Yor (Crzy insists <g>), etc.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 06:36:17 PM
IP: 04-173.009.popsite.net

Hi everybody. I had a good day today, got a half-day from school so I was able to come home early for some much needed rest.

Now for the reason i am here, this is something I've been thinking about for a while. It really upsets me that Doug and Kitainia may not be able to make it to the Gathering in Orlando this summer. Kitainia has never even been to one, and her reasons for not going last year sucked. I really felt for her.

So I would like to start "The Get Doug and Kitainia to the Gathering Foundation".

Who wants to contribute?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 06:29:54 PM
IP: dialin-588-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

D'oh! Forgot my color and pic in that one . . . oh, well.
Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 04:56:17 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

Zath> <<What are you going to do with 100 email accounts?>>

I'm going to provide email for myself and my family. This way, I don't have to put up with those annoying banner ads in free services; I've been using Hotmail, but I have come to hate their unreliable, gimmicky service. If I not only own the domain but wrote the program, I have no one to blame but myself when it goes wrong. <grin>

3D Modelling> I fiddled around with a freeware raytracer called POV-Ray for a while. It's okay, but everything's done by hand. Hand-coding a bezier patch is *not* my idea of a good time. There's a shareware program called Moray which interfaces with POV-Ray and lets you do wire-frame modelling and does all the hardest work for you, but I never could get the hang of it. If you're interested, click for further details.
Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 04:55:26 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

*Warpmind enters, looking around conspicuously.*

Zath: Actually, maybe coastal Texas wouldn't be so bad... I can easily survive the light breeze on the Texan coast. :)

GB: I just calculated in a few statistics there; with the gradual increase in life expectancy, it's not entirely improbable. Just look at how old for instance Desmond Lewellyn got to be; he could easily have a decade left to go.

Gside: Benjamin lookes at the whole debate with an amused grin. While chewing on a pepperoni. :)

Later, bunch. Gotta develop a language. :)
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, March 24, 2000 04:05:30 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Gside: <<Abetter question might be what progrem lets you make a grammar?>> yeah, and that. anyone knoe(w)?

{the Neuri need a few Descriptives and semi-nouns}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 03:52:24 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Bright Green (aka Neon Green)

Wilek> <<Alan's flute from Sailor Moon>>: Do you know the note progression for that?
<<Heh, all I have is a ROM of FF3/6J, FF7, and a PC demo of FF8...>>: Want me to post anything? 5 translated? Full version of 4 (2)? 1-3?

Warpmind> <<you sure you have the regular amount of chromosomes there?>>: I have not a clue.

Fleur> <<Like somebody has already said (sorry, I've forgetten who it was), the definition of a species is being able to produce _fertile_ offspring>>: That would probably be me. And a more famous example is the mule. On a side note, it is interesting that polar bears and (I think) brown bears are seperate species even though they produce fertile offspring. This is because their natural habitats never naturally bring them together for the opportunity, and required man to find out.

Zath> <<You make it sound as if you were cooked up in a petri dish>>: I only have their word that I wasn't.
<<<<...freeware 3D rendering package?>> Does such a thing exist?>>: Probably for Linux.

Warpmind> I just thought of something. What does Chibi-Benjamin think about the mutate breeding problem?

Rodlox> <<which programs in the Language-Maker pages let you make a _vocabulary_?>>: Abetter question might be what progrem lets you make a grammar?

Fire Storm> <<Who or what is Fran?>>: Fran would be Francis Lawrence, the nigh invisible, bigoted President of the University who sold our souls to Coke, and destroyed academics to pay for athletics. The most famous reason why people hate him is because of a very bad comment he made a few years back, something about blacks being academically deficient due to genetics. He has since shied away from the public light. In fact, in today's Targum (the "official" newspaper), there is an editorial by an assistant professor about Frannie. Some quotes: "Lawrence is a terrible leader. In his decade as president, Lawrence has failed to earn the respect of a large majority of the Rutgers faculty, except those who feed at the same trough. Most students seem not to know him, but those few who do seem not to like him as a person or as a leaser."
"Academic departments that do most of the undergraduate teaching have had their budgets slashed 500 percent since Lawrence arrived. Summer salaries for 50 full-time Cook College faculty have been withdrawn unilaterally.
"Money that had been used to support academic (teaching) departments has been diverted to financially backrupt research centers created by the Lawrence regime as ways to raise mone - not as ways to lose money."
"Under President Lawrence, the Rutgers Office of Corporate Liaison and Technology Trensfer is a total wrek and an embarassment to the University and the state."
There is much more, but I am boring you.

Green Baron> <<this city was built over a swamp 280 years ago>>: "When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up!"

Aaron> <<the hackers (slackers, code-crackers, whatever)>>: It's all about the Pentiums.

Rodlox> <>: I'm pretty sure it's official from Greg.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, March 24, 2000 03:21:44 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Quick post from school!

GB: $ Glad you got the e-mail. One additional request, can you please slow down the amount of time it takes your characters to beat their enemies some? Just so all who want to can contribute to the battle (this particularly applies to Atlanta, remember how big Gothmenes and Deavik's plans are concerning it, they have Pat Robertson, the Taliban, AOL corporation, Geraldine Laybourne, and Al Bore helping them out as well as Turner. Many of us, Kit and me especially, have plans for the battle, so we'd appreciate it if things weren't taken care of before we even have a chance to get down there. Please find other stuff for your characters to do in the interim if you can. <sorry> Don't worry, we'll probably finish the current Asil situation off by the end of next week and be in Atlanta ready to start the action there two or three weeks from now. It's just gonna take a little time in between to get everything else that's going on resolved first, especially SJ's situation with Sammael and the whole Quencher thing.). Thanks. $

Kyryn: Thanks for showing the scene from last season concerning the armor, I forgot that happened. The reminder is appreciated, I wonder how long it will take Brooklyn to get the armor again.

Shadowrider: Thanks for the Elysium feedback, glad you liked the story. Sorry it was too slow at times. <In your universe, are Gargoyles able stay awake during daytime if they want it?> Not naturally, but in "Goblins" Alex Xanatos used the Mayan Sun Amulet to make some crystal necklaces for the clan that they can use to stay awake in the day like the gargs in Guatemala do. I'll let you read the story to find out why. <Do they officially cooperate with police?> Not officially, but the police and the gargs do work together a lot and few people have a problem with it. This is mostly because it's necessary due to all the crime in New York in my ficverse, most cops appreciate the gargs' help, and some (like Matt and Elisa) have also become good friends with the clan and can see they're not monsters. Some cops, like Commissioner Friedman (an anal jerk who cares more about cops looking good for the press and politics than actual police work) and Kilgore (who as you saw in Elysium is a religious guy who still thinks gargs might be demons despite all evidence to the contrary) still do have a problem with gargs and police working together, but they're not that numerous and don't have much power (the chief of the NYPD is a garg-supporter too and the Mayor is Judge Roblyn, the guy who married Fox and Xanatos. He's known gargs were good guys for quite some time. :).

Okay, have to go now and start weekend away from home visiting parents for stepfather's 60th B-day (and I have a big paper to do when I return, <sarcasm> yeah). Later.
Doug
Friday, March 24, 2000 03:12:17 PM
IP: cache2.gw.utexas.edu

Mara> Sorry about the hackers (slackers, code-crackers, whatever) Hope you get things straightened out soon

SOROW> Ouch. Sorry you got burned. Hugs.

Robbie> Hmm, pretty good analysis of the Trek captains. Personally, I always voted Sisko as the best because he had the hardest job. Oh, and don't forget the SAAS meeting sunday.

G2K> I haven't gotten my confirmation either.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, March 24, 2000 03:04:23 PM
IP: ppp-243.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Shadowrider: i think it's 10 Years....but don't recall if that's canon from the series, or just something in fanfics that keeps getting reused.

anyone know?

Rodlox
Friday, March 24, 2000 02:07:18 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

RP WARNING!!!
Los Angeles, tenemnt used by Attila as a temporary base, after denizens were run out.

The calvary has arrived, but they are somewhat shocked by Attila's abode.

"With your illegal wealth and this is what you get?"
"There's a reason I keep most of my illegal wealth, Phil."
Attila brings out his batle plan which is unfolded by Ave Maria. He then shows maps of Atlanta and Los Angeles.

"Now, it seems not all of us will be needed in Los Angeles so I think our next target should be Atlanta, home of Ted Turner. JC Watts, you will lead Angelica, Brigitte, Bernadette, Charleton Heston, Phil Gramm, Anthony Kennedy, Fred Thompson, Gene Taylor, and Lindsey Graham to Atlanta. I will stay in Los Anegeles with Ave Maria, Therese, Clarence Thomas, Sandra Day O'Connor, John McCain, Bob Dole, and Jim Rogan will handle the remaining elementals and deal with soem LAPD problems along with sending Mxin Waters back to Hell. We will meet Larry Elder at a rendezvous point in a few hours. He's wanted to put an end to Miss Waters for years."**
PAUSE RP!!!

Warpmind> I don't knwo about 40. Very few make it to 109, not even George Burns. Strom Thurmond might :)

I don't think committing a violent cirme forfeits the right to bear arms automatically. All rights have respsonsibilities. Maybe a Charleton Heston movie marathon can help the cause in Europe :)

Shadowrider> <<In early 70's, for variuos reasons, a lot of religious holidays were deleted from civil holydays calendar>> Christmas was not a US holdiay until the 1820s or so. I can support that. It seems we have too many federal holidays and I think it has gotten rather extreme.

Aaron> I don't like them either, but I don't knwo if banning them is teh right approach. It's jsut my distatste for regulation. I do think anyone driving an SUV in New Orleans is a major dip**** and should be run out of town by a local mob. Then again, I think there are far too many automobiles in the city that make it much more difficult for the mass transit that I use. Without all these car drivers, buses woudl be much faster without all these drivers clogging the streets, and they are really brazen when they drive right in front of the streetcar and delay it for a few minutes.

Jessie Feff> I saw that a while back.

Cherry Blossom> If you think is Ohio is flat, come on down to Southern Louisiana. Bayous are not just flat, they cna give you a sinking feeling :)

Mara> Those scum got me a while back. They also destryed my profile and caused general havoc.

Niamhgold> Yep, S&Ls that survived the eighties do a godo job :)

Silverstar> Point well taken. I'll consider that.

Jenna> I take it your sister-in-law and her husband can't just use the old-fashioned methods. Phoenix and Rumlo Griffin? Are you serious about the names?

Janine> You ahven't gotten any since January? Do you know if your check has been processed?

Bengali> You don't read R stories? Isn't that a tad strict? The R rating is a poor indicator of a story and given for various reasons. Then again, I just love Christine's NC-17 stories :)

Christine> Sybil and Anneke would draw lots over Lord Verdant's body and Sybil might simply wish she got him first :)

Has anyone drawn any pics of Sybil?

SOROW> ::hugs::

Fleur> Welcome back, mate. I think you oughtta toss DC on the barbie along with some PETA members :)

Zath> I always thought LA woudl have higher seal level, just because of teh mountains around Hollywood. I guess you shoudl visit New Orleans to see if it feels different. Not only do we have low altitude and a corrupt police force, but this city was built over a swamp 280 years ago :)

BTW, Mandi needs roomies for G2K. Maybe you can help her.

If you like steak. Wyoming has been breeding cattle and buffallo to come up with beefalo. I imagine this bran do livestock may be better to raise for the ecosystem than cattle and I'd love to taste some rare beefalo :) I'm glad we saved them from extinction yum! :)

Janine> I've heard of Liberal, Kansas. It's that bad? Sounds worse than Chalmette, Lousiana.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, March 24, 2000 01:50:56 PM
IP: 141.164.133.102

Coyote> there's an 800 number listed below her name on the emails from her. Call her on that. If you don't have it, let me know and I'll look the number up for you :)
Jannie
Friday, March 24, 2000 01:43:48 PM
IP: 216-90-185-227.hou.port.mytelco.com

Kyryn:> Gosh! I missed that! Well, it means my reflection about Puck's vision was wrong. Oh, well.

Random Question:> After a gargoyle egg is layed, how much time is required for it to hatch?

Doug:> Just finished "Elysium". I still have not decided how to rate it, for sure four or five stars. It is a very good story, very complex, well written and with interesting topics. Characters are usually well developed (some of them more than others) as well as situations. Criticisms? (constructive, I hope) Well, I found it a little...how can I say...slow sometimes. Probably it is a matter of taste, but I prefer a faster narration. I really can't find true faults. Oh, just a couple of questions: In your universe, are Gargoyles able stay awake during daytime if they want it? Do they officially cooperate with police?

**TD SPOILER**

Well, I've re-read the story. I quite agree with Doug (BTW, nice comment), it was a little too short and underdeveloped. My previous opinion was a bit too favourable, but I was so enthusiastic for Timedancer's new season...(I don't mean it is a BAD story...it could be better, yes , but it is quite good). About Brooklyn's reaction for Sata's missing...well, I think he still has not completely realized it. Maybe he hopes the Gate will take him back to his love in a few days or so. I think that, if months and years will have to pass before it, we will see Brooklyn growing more amd more desperate. By now, as a true warrior, he hides his pain and tries to go on.

**END SPOILER**
Ciao gente, ci si vede!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, March 24, 2000 01:41:49 PM
IP: h255-22-66.mi2.albacom.net

Jannie: Yep, through Susan. She was supposed to contact me when my money order arrived, but never did ... I even left her my e-mail and everything.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, March 24, 2000 11:39:05 AM
IP: zzz-209252248158.splitrock.net

**Kyryn sneaks in**

Just a quick note for those who have been commenting on Brooklyn and the armor. The following scene appears at the end of Crossroads Part 2:

Artus found Brooklyn in the library with Broadway. Brooklyn had returned to his old style of dress, belt and loincloth.

They didn't speak, but Artus could tell that much was going on. He entered the room and presented Brooklyn with the Phoenix Gate. "You dropped this."

Brooklyn danced out shortly after this. When Brooklyn left the future, he was still in his old clothes.

**Kyryn sneaks out**

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, March 24, 2000 11:29:32 AM
IP: 216.35.46.135

*hugs Fire Storm* ^_^
thanks!!
Although I still don't know which pic to use!
Gargoyle Senshi or Loki w/ sunglasses?
come on! give me your brutal honest opinion! ~_^
ok, later.... =D
Alex Destine
Friday, March 24, 2000 10:54:46 AM
IP: proxy.coqui.net

Color = Purple Tint
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Dusk Blue
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Gside: <And don't even mention Fran.>
That bad, eh?
Well, you mentioned it, so I GOTTA ask...
Who or what is Fran?

Coyote: <a good alternate title for ACO might be "Mindf**k of the Century.">
Hmm... sounds interesting.
<and believe me it's tempting>
I say submit an aplication and just see. You may be happy with the results! Just don't quit your current job to look for other jobs.
Do you really want to be secure at a place that dosn't pay you enough and overworks you, or a place that pays you what your worth and dosn't overwork you, even though it may not be as secure?

SOROW: <Burns>
OWIE OWIE OWIE!
I HATE burns! Don't worry though... if you went to the doctor or are putting a good burn cream on it, you won't have much of a scar.
It's only been 9 months for me and you can barely tell the discoloration on my arms, probally thanks to the cream.

Wilek: <Anyone know of a good freeware 3D rendering package?>
I don't know of a freeware 3d rendering package, let alone a good one.
The cheapest I can say is Bryce or Poser. (you can find them for $200 each or $300 for all three if you look or are a college student)
(Oh yeah... before you think Warez, I just gotta say GFL. If you can truly find a downloadable copy of those porgrams, well, you are INCREDIBLY lucky!)

Fleur: <The web site is FABULOUS!!>
Lady Mystic thanks you!

Zath: <I've gotten pretty good at making furniture and stuff, but anything that's supposed to be alive still looks really bad.>
Hey, at least you learned on MAX. I learned on the DOS version, so I have to unlearn alot before I can learn MAX better.
I was starting to make some pretty darn good biological shapes in 3ds DOS too. (REALLY good machines, though. Maybe I'll post a pic or two of low altitude fighter soon. It had pretty good curves on it.)

Alex Destine: <It wasn't until FireStorm posted that link though that I went there....>

<Why isn't there a picture of Thersites for the CR?>
<When will it be up for use!???! I wanna know! (cause I wanna use it!) =P>
There will be and it will be up fairly soon. I am going to e-mail Gorebash soon and get post the info as soon as I have it.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 10:25:55 AM
IP: 1cust25.tnt4.det3.da.uu.net

Oh, one more thing. Click this link for some laughs:

http://www.foxtrot.com/comics/pages/ft000310.html
Doug
Friday, March 24, 2000 09:59:07 AM
IP: pool-209-138-160-76.dlls.grid.net

Bengali: Alright, <sighs> whatever your standards are, I understand. :) Just so you and everyone knows, the story only really has an R-rating for its mature themes- drugs, date rape, and a bit of gang violence are the main conflicts. The story and characters deal with these things in a very realistic and mature manner, according to one person who sent feedback yesterday. The sex itself comes close to being described, but is not actually described (scene cuts out as soon as it begins) and the profanity is there, but not really that much. I could probably shift the story down to PG-13 and get away with it, but I don't really feel the need to right now, so I won't. Sorry your standards are preventing you from reading, too often good stories are made with bad ratings and avoided just because of a few things in there that are necessary to the plot but people wouldn't like IMO. :( Hope others will read the story regardless of its rating and send feedback, I'll be waiting. :)

Welcome back, Zath and Fleur!

Jenna: Congrats to you on the new niece/nephew. Let the happy couple know we share their joy, too, okay? :)

**TD SPOILERS AHOY**

Pretty good job on the new episode, Robby, Todd, and all else who contributed. The pics were great, and the character development on Brooklyn and Puck was somewhat interesting. Decent plot as well, and I liked the characters Ilya and Anya (though I couldn't really feel for them, as they weren't given that much development and had to be temporary from the start). I'm glad Timedancer's back, but I do have to give the season opener a few nits. Sorry. First off, there are a couple editing mistakes I found. Ilya mentions that gargs "turn to stone when the sun rises and remain alive till night comes." Isn't it the other way around? Shouldn't you guys have caught this? The other nit I saw was that Brooklyn was still in his loincloth in one of the pics, not his armor, which I thought he was supposed to have been wearing now. None of the Russian characters made a comment about the armor either. So did he decide not to wear it and you didn't tell us, or what? <just wondering, mean no offense> The other thing I didn't like about the story was that it was too short and seemed too much like linear filler. Brooklyn appears in Russia, stays there a while, sees Puck, then leaves. Nothing else really happens. He helps the local nobleman fight a war, but that war isn't really described, settled before Brooklyn leaves, or even talked about that much. The characters and situations of Russia do give us a sense of what it was like in their times, but not really that much of one. Previous TD stories, even the otherwise boring Season 1 eps, have done that. Season 2's did it wonderfully. Season 3's aren't really off to a good start doing it IMO. :( Brooklyn gets a little character development in the story, I liked that, but what I didn't like is that it wasn't talked about. It's- okay, he left Sata, he feels bad, but that feeling isn't explored or even mentioned more than in a few statements that sweep it away. Shouldn't having to leave his true love meant more to Brooklyn? I hope it will be further explored in some story down the line, and that we'll see how Sata's getting on without him too. I also didn't like how Brooklyn didn't interact much with the characters in the Russian castle, it seemed more like he was just there than like he was there and helped people. It seemed like they treated him as a person too once he helped them, which is unrealistic. Someone in the castle should have remembered how Ivan the Terrible thought gargs were demons and disdained Brooklyn because of it, they can't all have just ignored him, left him alone in blind obedience to Ilya, and waited for him to go away. Having them seem like they did this made the reader not really care about any of them or see them as more cardboard cutouts, something I definitely didn't go for that much. :( Maybe if we'd seen more of the two weeks Brooklyn spent in 1600s Russia we could have gotten to see more of the characters and gotten to know their time more as well as see Brooklyn developed more like should have been done. The story was overall entirely too short. What could have happened in those two weeks we'll never know and I think it would have been better if we could have. <sighs> The one thing in the ep I have no problems with is the Puck scenes and development. They were well-written, interesting, and fit with the character. Would have liked to see more Brooklyn-Puck interaction (and more Brooklyn-other people interaction period) but what we got was good (especially liked the stuff Delwyn mentioned relating to Puck and the Phoenix Gate. Hope Puck's denial period doesn't last too long and he soon comes to care about humans more because of what happened with Ilya. Overall the story gets 6.5/10 stars, thumbs sideways but leaning towards the up because it's Timedancer-come-back. The nits I mentioned do cause a strong downtrend, though. :(

Insane Gargs/Buffy Creativity Demon: Yep the TD story inspired one thanks to my main nit. :) That nit, if you missed it above, is that the reader didn't get a sense of what it was like for people in 1600s Russia from reading the story. They could see that the country was still feudal even though the rest of Europe was turning away from that at the time (if they knew history), that its nobles got involved in a lot of ongoing wars, and that was it. No more. We saw a minstrel in the castle, but didn't really get how he was seen by people other than as the entertainment and "just someone else who was there" (Brooklyn was kinda portrayed the same way, I thought, given his lack of development and how Ilya knew about Brooklyn being the Timedancer but we didn't see the scene where Brooklyn told him, but I've said that already). We also saw that myth and legend was important to the Russians, as was history, but we didn't really get a sense of how, why, or even their possibly diverse and interesting reactions to having a being from legend walking among them. That was something bad we missed out on too. Another thing (the main one that led to this creativity demon)- did women really fight alongside the men in Russian armies during the 1600s? I'm taking a Soviet Union history course now and I know they did in the World Wars (WW2 even had Red army female fighter pilots), but did it happen before then too? According to TD, yes, and if that's true I'm glad for it. However I would have liked to have seen more of why the women were fighting alongside the men, whether there was any prejudice relating to it, how it affected male/female roles in the Russians' society, etc. More development on Anya, the one female fighter character we saw, would have also been nice (the bits we did see of her were interesting, but not that much IMO, should have been more done). Now without further ado, here's a creativity demon for what could have happened in those two weeks and how Brooklyn and Anya could have been developed more, if Brooklyn had been in Russia about seven hundred years before he was. :) -

Anya is a good fighter, she trains to fight frequently, but her father always tells her to stay out of sight during actual battles cause he's worried about her (this was seen in the story). Then Brooklyn arrives and because he's strange and can fight well, Anya wants to make friends with him. They become friends in the two weeks we didn't see, and Anya learns a lot about gargoyles (what they are, how their females can fight as well as their males and sometimes better, how females fight alongside the males, etc) as well as a little martial arts from Brooklyn. This causes her to like garg society a little more than human and also develop a bit of a teenage crush on Brooklyn. Maybe she tries a few advances during his last days in Russia, but Brooklyn pushes them off because he's a) loyal to Sata and misses her, knows he must get back to her someday, ignores Anya because of her; b) knows he's only in Russia temporarily and doesn't want to get involved in anything long-term while he's there due to the pain it might cause (we've seen things like this happen with Harthoth and Meryt, and with Sata too, Brooklyn should remember it); and c) Brooklyn's not sure he wants to get involved with a human, even though she is friendly and nice. Anya doesn't like this, and when Brooklyn leaves Russia she selectively forgets it wasn't his choice and gets to feeling all angry and spurned by him. At the same time she starts trafficking in magics as well as war to at least get involved in fighting somehow (maybe she saw the healing spell Puck did on her father and wants to learn how to do something similar so she can be seen as worth something in battle by her dad) and reads a few magic books. At the same time maybe her friend Natalia (who would have remained afraid of Brooklyn in this story like she was when she first saw him and stayed away from him while he was around, then gone back to being friends with Anya once he was gone) is dumped by some jerk male soldier she was dating and Anya gets angry. She figures "maybe I was spurned by Brooklyn, I can never get him back for that since he's never coming back, but now I am strong. I can take for Natalia the revenge I never took for me!" and then puts a horrible curse on the soldier who dumped Natalia. Seeing her do this, her magical power, and the emotions she's going through while doing it, a demon named D'Hoffren gets an idea. Fans of Buffy can probably guess what happens to Anya next. :)

**END SPOILERS FOR TD**

That's all for now, will post more later. Have a good weekend, everybody!
Doug
Friday, March 24, 2000 09:55:51 AM
IP: pool-209-138-160-76.dlls.grid.net

color = dusk blue

Zath> you want to move to west Texas? ^_^ it's hot, dry, and flat there! I hear that the town of Midland is nice though. Here in the Gulf coast area (Houston), we don't receive hurricanes to speak of.... tornadoes and flooding, yes - but no hurricanes ;)
Flat land? I lived in Liberal, Kansas for several years... *blinks* You can see for up to 20 miles away it's so flat. Liberal is in the panhandle area (SW Kansas) Nasty place! I've always said that if God was going to give the United States an enima - Liberal would be the "targeted area".
Yeah, it's God's place... God and the Devil flipped a coin and God lost... I hate that area!

Coyote> did you purchase your ticket thru Susan? She's great! (her daughter is Little Demon from Mini Clan.)
Denis and I being the cutest couple? *blushes* Thanks! I'm sure that you and Mara will give us some competition ;)

*takes Denis's hand to leave with him* love ya' babe!

42 more school days
133 more days 'till G2K
129 more days 'till I see Denis!! *swoons and giggles*
Jannie
Friday, March 24, 2000 08:16:29 AM
IP: 216-90-185-182.hou.port.mytelco.com

TWO IDEAS FOR TIMEDANCER BROOKLYN VISITING RUSSIA THAT WE PROMISE NEVER TO USE IN TGS:

1. Brooklyn winds up in Russia during the November Revolution of 1917, meets some extremely stuffy Bolsheviks, and calls them "a bunch of Red Squares".

2. Brooklyn learns a bit about Russian patronymics, as in how they combine your father's name at the beginning with "ovitch" at the end, so that if your dad's name is "Ivan", you'd be known as "Ivanovitch". He promptly asks, "What if your dad's name was Sonov?"

(Well, that last one would DEFINITELY be out, given all the trouble it reportedly got "Road Rovers" into :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, March 24, 2000 08:14:35 AM
IP: 216.87.46.139.dialup-stl.primary.net

Topic: LangMaker: which programs in the Language-Maker pages let you make a _vocabulary_? all's i've been able to find are name-makers.

thanks.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:51:09 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Can u believe that I've never seen the picture gallery?!
It wasn't until FireStorm posted that link though that I went there....
I wanna use the Sailor Ariana!!! ^_^ heehee!
It was just so pretty!
When will it be up for use!???! I wanna know! (cause I wanna use it!) =P
and the Loki w/ sunglasses one is too cute!
(when will these be up? .... Now I have a dilema!
Which to use?!?! Sailor Ariana vs. Loki with sunglasses.)
What do ya think people?... Gargoyle Senshi or Fey Terror?
come on! feedback is appreciated! ^_^

TD3: I LOVED IT!!.... I love anything w/ Brooklyn, but the fact that it had Puck in it as well, that just got the highest score in the Alex Destine's lovemeter :P

ok... gotta book it! ~_^ (I can see Caliope starring at me!! heehee!)
Alex Destine
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:45:37 AM
IP: ppp-196-42-43-188.coqui.net

Topic: Tigons, Hybrids, & Mutates: <<Tigers and lions can produce offspring, (called 'Tigons', which sounds like a Mutate name in itself;)) But I don't think Tigons can breed. Like somebody has already said (sorry, I've forgetten who it was), the definition of a species is being able to produce _fertile_ offspring.>> and those are members of the _same_ genus! look at something else similar: African & Asian elephants, which are two separate species, two different genera {no idea if they can produce offspring at all}.

in the list below, for the non-scientifically inclined, i'll post the list of scientific classification {Linean(sp?) method}....using the Lion as the base...each example shows how unrelated they are....

Kingdom: {well, we haven't seen any plant or fungus parts to them, right?}.
Phylum: they're all vertabrates {backboned}.
Class: electric eel {is a fish, not a mammal}.
Order: bats {not in hte order Carnivora}.
Family: bat {not in the family of the cats}.
Genera: elephant {i used it in the example above}.
Species: Tiger.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 07:31:48 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Why isn't there a picture of Thersites for the CR?
Zath
Friday, March 24, 2000 06:36:01 AM
IP: ppp-229-128.usc.edu

Color = Dark Purple

On Topic Question> Suppose Gargoyles was resurrected for another season, but due to various problems and bureaucratic screwups the new episodes were complete garbage. Would you watch it anyway, or ignore it and refuse to recognize the new eps. as cannon, continuing TGS instead? (speaking of problems like that, a couple of days ago I found out Michael Eisner is supposedly going to be speaking at this year's graduation. I'm not sure how I feel about that.)

Random, Off Topic Stuff> Is anyone in here familiar with F. Paul Wilson's Repairman Jack stories? I just finished The Tomb, and I liked it a lot even the story didn't have anything to do with a tomb. It took place in New York City, and there were 7 to 8 foot tall blue humanoid monsters with only three toes (and they could only be hurt by fire or iron) running around eating people. I kept expecting the gargoyles and/or the Quarrymen to show up and try to put a stop to the situation. I can just imagine Goliath picking up a Rakosh (they were demons from India) and throwing it at Castaway, who uses his quarry-hammer like a baseball bat to swat it out of the air. The other books in the series look interesting, but I know that if I buy them now, I wouldn't be able to get any work or studying done until I finish them, so I'll probably have to wait until summer before I go looking for the rest of the series.

Green Baron> <<Where ahve you lived that has been at such a low altitude?>> I'm not sure what the elevation of my home in Pennsylvania was, but southeast Texas and Los Angeles are both pretty close to sealevel. The -130ft was in Saba, but I was only down there for a few minutes, so it doesn't really count as living there. <<But New Orleans has the most corrupt police force in the US>> With the Ramparts Scandal and everything, LA must be trying for second place.

Gside> <<like how can you tell if DNA is human by 5 bases or so?>> Or how you can tell its missing two chromosomes by looking at a single strand? <<hang out at the bar, currently tended by a hunchback (Igor I believe)>> Every once in a while, when it gets really busy, Thailog Horror helps out. <<But then again, I am the product of two biologists...>> You make it sound as if you were cooked up in a petri dish...

Niamhgold> <<"Leprethong.">> *LOL* <<But Wisconson is cold and full of cows>> I can do without the cold, but lots of cows means lots of steak : )

Wilek> <<Dear gods, I thought you were doing a DC death for a second there...>> Unfortunately, it wasn't, but that does give me an idea... **Suddenly one of the CR's walls explodes inward as Thailog Horror drives a pickup truck through it, towing a large white trailer that seems to exude an aura of evil. He leans out the window and shouts, "Hey, look what I found just lying the campus!" "Is that what I think it is?" "Yup." As the dust settles, the lettering on the sides of the trailer can be seen, reading "USC Mobile Dental Clinic." (yes, such a thing really exists, and it is frightening to behold) Zath's evil grin begins to grow. "Heh heh heh... Thai, you rev up the equipment. I'll go get Mr. DC...."** <<Being caught in a Hitchcockian hurricane of feathers, beaks, and talons is a *memorable* experience...>> *LOL* <<Who would be offended if I brought about the wholesale extinction of the gastropod species? Slugs and snails are repellent beyond nearly any other life form IMHO (but then most invertebrates are pretty gross)... >> Hey, some of my best friends are gastropods! Well, actually, that's not true, but I like snails, and sea slugs are really cool looking. Would you be satisfied just wiping out garden slugs? <<Eccchhhh...I hate fish enough when they're cooked, but *this*..>> Actually, I think tuna tastes better raw than cooked. You just have to make sure its fresh. <<Anyone know of a good freeware 3D rendering package?>> Does such a thing exist?

Warpmind> <> Then you'd have to go to west Texas. East Texas is right up against the Gulf of Mexico and gets smacked by hurricanes on a regular basis. <<Now, if I only could get someone to sharpen it for me>> I guess it would be rather difficult to put a sword through those little sharpeners that come with electric can openers ; )

Coyote> <<the arrangement was first used in "A Clockwork Orange.">> I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILLIAR!! One of these days I really need to go back and watch that movie again, now that I'm old enough to understand what's happening. I think I was somewhere around 7 or 8 when I saw it the first time.

Denis> Happy (belated) Birthday!

Robby> <<they went back to him and said "We need you to translate a sentance into Klingon for us." He said, "Sure, what is it?" And the response... "To be or not be...">> Couldn't he have just translated it as "to exist or not to exist" or something similar?

SJ> <<I actually just started the book Grendel. I have just one question--when does it pick up? I've read two chapters, and damn am I bored. It's rather interesting to hear things from the monster's perspective, but so far all he's done is wax philosophic about his place in life.>> We read a short excerpt of that in 12th grade. I think Grendel was raiding Hrothgar's hall and broke someone's nose with an apple, then he captured one of the men and bit his head off.

DumlaoX> My condolences on the loss of your father. <<Those that know how to get at me can get at me anytime>> Well, we're currently only half a city apart. We just happen to be attending rival schools... : )

David G.> <<I think it might be interesting to see a fanfic where someone tracks the Doctor to his private island, which is populated by flying wolves and other genetic terrors, all bound in service to Sevarius because he built crippling addictions into their DNA and he's the only supplier of what they need to survive.>> In my Giant Unwritten Fic, if I ever get around to putting it down on paper, I was going to have the Avalon crew's skiff get sent to an island populated by the creations Sevarius had lost interest in but didn't want to kill because they might be useful later. He didn't feel like taking care of them personally, so he had a couple of lackeys exiled to the island to take care of the creatures and continue to gather data.

Anne> I hope things get better for you soon. <<As for Ash, he's yours Zath>> Thank you : ) **Zath introduces Chibi-Ash to Chibi-Sevarius, Thailog Horror, and Kitty. Kitty tries to pounce on the new Chibi, but T Horror catches her just in time. Ash menaces Anton-kun with his tiny chainsaw, but Anton zaps it with an electrical bolt. (Hmmm... He's not supposed to be able to do that. I think I need to have a talk with the young man about altering his own genes) The two chibis try to stare each other down, but both break out laughing at the same time. The new friends run off together, most likely to plan some sort of destructive mischief.**

Fire Storm> <> Cool, you know MAX? That's the program I'm using in my animation class. We'll learn other programs in the more advanced classes if I decide to take them. I've gotten pretty good at making furniture and stuff, but anything that's supposed to be alive still looks really bad.

Kyryn> <<When we hold a recruitment drive we will announce it in the CRs>> I guess it's just bad timing, but so far every time one of the recruitment drives has been held, it's been when RL kept me from being able to check the room and see it. Hopefully this time I'll acutally be around when it happens. : )

Selanit> <<100 email accounts>> What do you plan to do with that many accounts?

cherry blossom> <<Ohio is FLAT>> So is south/east Texas. It was the first place I saw 360 degrees of horizon, not a lump in sight in any direction.

Jenna> <<If they have a girl they will name her Phoenix. If they have a boy, they will call him Romulo Griffin.>> Cool.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 06:09:59 AM
IP: ppp-229-128.usc.edu

*walks in the room, and kiss his Jaja darling*

hi, guys!
first, thanks to everyone who wished me a happy Birthday! I did appreciate it!

*looks at Rodlox's answer* t'wasn't me? oh. I though ya finally found out who that Rodney character was after. whatever. not trying to start a flamewar, here, though. email welcome outside the room.

The X-men movie> I personnally look forward that movie. It doesn't look as bad as I feared it would be. Some characters are neatly transposed to screen, like Ororo (Storm) or Victor Creed (Sabretooth).
If they do a sequel, wich I'm almost certain they will, I hope they'll take Sinister as main vilain, with some hint for Apocalypse as the max vilain for the third flick.
or, let's be crazy, the Neo! (the new ennemy that showed up this month in the comic book)
oh, speaking of the Neo. Is Domina the new alias of Cable's old girlfriend Domino? they have similar look, and we haven't seen Domino in a while.

Doug> I've finished the reading of Protected Species. feedback will be written and send this weekend, hopefully.

That's all for now. I've job offers to answer to. cya later, gang!
*takes Jannie's hand and walk with her out of the CR*
Denis - [malkavien@lft.be]
Friday, March 24, 2000 05:46:36 AM
IP: 212.166.48.223

*DC death*
DC is going about his usual disruptive business when he feels a tap on his shoulder. He turns, knowing the CR residents he tortures well enough to already dread what will come next. Instead, it is a smiling delivery man holding a beautiful little plant in a pot. Without a word, the delivery guy hands the plant to DC and walks away. DC grins down at the plant, just as a lovely flower blooms in front of him..and shoots a white powder into his face.
When he awakens, DC finds himself in the CR, a vaguely familiar figure standing over him.
"Between your meddling and RL, I have been forced into lurker mode for far to long," Fleur growls and pulls out a simple cheese grater and a small, very sharp knife. She grins evily. "This may _begin_ to make me feel better." As DC begins to scream, Fleur lowers the knife and...
<CENSORED DUE TO EXTREMELY VIOLENT NATURE. _NOBODY_ HAS A STOMACH STRONG ENOUGH FOR THIS>
Having cleaned up, Fleur wanders into the CR. Chibi Wilek, realising the fun is over, pockets the scroll he's been using to take notes and runs out, inspired.
*END THAT LITTLE BIT OF CR-DEPRIVATION INDUCED STUPIDITY*

Hi all! Believe me when I say: It's sooo good to be back! I'm sorry I've been a non-prescence for so long, but I've been doing my best to keep up to date. *sigh* and I thought once I got on-line, I'd never be away from here.

Thanks to everyone for their congratulations about Xanathar and I *big silly grin* Yeah, I'm still on cloud nine. Sue me. :)

Before I get into replies, I'd like to extend a big warm welcome to all the newcomers. (actually, I'm not sure 'newcomers' really applies in this case. How bout I say: the people who've found this little corner of insanity during my absence. :)) BIG WELCOME BACK to anybody else I haven't seen in an especially long while, and Happy Birthday wishes to everyone I've missed! :)

Mandolin> Sorry to hear about the fire. Pity poor Teddy was a casualty :(

Cherry> If you still need it, I'm praying for you.

PETA thing> *keeps a straight face for about 12 seconds before dissolving into laughter* You know, that would probably be pretty popular at my uni. We appreciate utter stupidity. Makes us feel better about ourselves. ;) But then, in Australia, legal drinking starts at 18, so the under-age drinking issue isn't really relevant.

Jannie> Wha? How many teeth? Oh. my. god. And I thought it was bad when I had all my wisdoms out at once.

Katara> Sorry to hear about your hospital woes, but I'm glad it worked out in the end. (BTW, I think doctors _enjoy_ scaring people. Must be some sort of employee bonus for them. :))

Lady Mystic and Fire Storm> The web site is FABULOUS!! I'm so impressed, and I can't wait until it's up, so I can try out all those new pics. :D

Maggie and Talon having rugcats> ooo, good discussion. Assuming that Servarius' DNA fiddling _did_ affect their reproduction, there's always the possibility that could have kids, but not Granchildren. Tigers and lions can produce offspring, (called 'Tigons', which sounds like a Mutate name in itself;)) But I don't think Tigons can breed. Like somebody has already said (sorry, I've forgetten who it was), the definition of a species is being able to produce _fertile_ offspring.

DumlaoX> *hugs* My deepest sympathies my friend. I'm thinking of you and your family. (On a more cheerful note, it's nice seeing you again.)

This I just _had_ to share - An article in our paper today... >:)
Tortured in a Backstreet.
The campus police first tried reasoning with the student protesters to get them to end their sit-in, then they ordered them out of the office of the president of the University of Toronto.
When that didn't work either, the authorities resorted to extreme tactics to end the demonstration - by playing pop songs by the Backstreet Boys and other bands at full blast, non-stop and all night.
Twenty students began the sit-in at the office six days ago to demand a campus-wide ban of the sale of clothing made in Third World sweatshops. Yesterday just eight remained.
"This is probably the first time the Backstreet Boys have been deliberately used as a form of sleep deprivation torture," protestor Sonia Singh said yesterday.

I think my favourite part is that little word 'deliberately' >;)

*yawn* Gotta go.. start work at 5am tomorrow. I'll finish the rest after that.
TTFN! *and long overdue hugs to all :)*

Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 05:38:47 AM
IP: palo1.pacific.net.au

*Warpmind steps in, looking at the burns on walls and ceiling.*
Oh, well, I guess we need the occasional low-key flamewar to keep the big ones from exploding in our faces, I guess...

Mara: ACK! May I suggest you change to something different from AOL? Something secure and reliable, perhaps?

Silverstar: You're welcome. :)

Crzy: When offended, would it be acceptable to sink to the offender's level? I think not. But, I understand you.

Fire Storm: Thwarted? Me? Noooo... >:)

Gside: Ah, I see your point... you sure you have the regular amount of chromosomes there? ;)

Wilek: You could use the LangMaker, and so can I. :) This looks like a fun, easy tool to use, and I intend to use it, too. :)

Got an RP segment in mind, but it's neither ready nor appropriate right now. I'll post it maybe tomorrow, when I've gone over all its intricacies (and maybe when I've made a longer post) in my head.

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, March 24, 2000 03:40:45 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**dives into ArchWolf's foxhole and changes into a flame retardant halter top and cut off shorts**

*holds up April issue of Disney Adventures magazine* More distressing news on the X-Men movie. Rouge _IS_ supposed to be in this movie, but you'll never believe who they've cast to play the part....Anna Paquin!! Isn't she a bit young to play the part? I've always thought she was at least around 24-25.

Still haven't had a chance to get to TD as of yet. to much bloody time doing overtime at work. Once again this week I'll only have one day off, and sadly that day _MUST_ be spent cleaning house...YUUUUUUCCCCKKK!!!

Well, enough for now. To tired for much of anything else. *curls up in the foxhole and pulls an asbestos blanket over her and goes to sleep*
Katara - [Katara_O@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Friday, March 24, 2000 01:14:23 AM
IP: abd0b066.ipt.aol.com

**YET ANOTHER COMMENT ON THE NEW TIMEDANCER EP (Don't worry, I won't do this on the episodes I didn't work on...**

Wilek- You imagined Alan's tune from Sailor Moon? Aw snoot bunnies. I could have used any given screenshot from there for reference rather than pulling out my Zelda manuals... Oh well... NAh, cause then the pic would look like Alan instead of Link... Hmm... On the other hand, the pointed ears just mighta been appropriate...

ANother place Elisa's theme (Pietr's flute tune) pops up is during the "Beauty and the Beast" sequence in "Eye of the Beholder" if that helps anyone...

*Reads over the comments on the episode, realizes that he knows what is actually coming up, and begins to laugh maniacally in the dark* Er... Um... Interpret that as you will.

**END TIMEDANCER COMMENTS**

Sorow- Ouchie. Don't know what I can say about that.

Kirk/Picard- Kirk was more action oriented, more likely to disobey orders and start a fight, and he got a girl almost every episode. Picard was a bit more cerebral, and later on he seemed to disobey orders like every episode and every movie... He tried to avoid fights and got a girl about three times in the whole series, counting the movies. They're both equally good captains with their own effective approaches. Sisko was kind of a mesh between the two, but he wasn't even a captain till halfway through the series. At first Sisko was more like Picard, but after he shaved his head and grew a goatee, he became more like Kirk. Janeway... Um... Is a female captain. She doesn't have much else going for her, since she's made TONS of bad decisions, and its basically all her fault that Voyager is stuck in the Delta Quadrant in the first place...
Robby
Friday, March 24, 2000 01:00:25 AM
IP: spider-tq051.proxy.aol.com

Bengali> NP, glad you caught it. thanks for not taking it the wrong way.
Toku Kaioto
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:58:12 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Toku>I know, sorry.
Bengali
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:53:22 AM
IP: spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com

Uh oh...

I just read my last post and Robbys post and I think I just violated Robbys last post by keeping the discussion going. No need to warn me Robby, I wont do it again. Sorry.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:48:15 AM
IP: spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com

Bengali> Once Robby (the CR Admin) corrects something like that, that is the LAST anyone is supposed to say about it. It is NOT an invitation to talk down to people because they were chastised. When Robby says drop it, he means EVERYONE drop it.

I'm not picking on you, I'm just clarifying the whole Point of the CR admin Stopping this stuff to you, as you are a bit new here.
Toku Kaioto
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:18:36 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Concerning recent flame wars...

Special thanks to Robby for ending this.

Pistoff and Crzy Demona-I read both of you twos recent posts, all of which were little more than namecalling, if you two want to fight with eachother you can go out on the street and pummel each other there but we do not want it here. This is not the place for anyone to fight with anyone else, if you are gonna have a disagreement you can debate it civally with one another, Got it?
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:09:51 AM
IP: spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com

Robby> Pietr's flute tune> Interesting. :) Usually, my mind either fills in a composition of its own or a familiar tune from somewhere else for such things (in this instance it used Alan's flute from Sailor Moon, which is sad and forboding rather than romantic and peaceful, but I'm about as logical as a fish on a bicycle). ^_^

Fire Storm> <> Kewl...Looking forward to seeing the finished render. ^_^ Anyone know of a good freeware 3D rendering package?

Gside> <> O_O Wow. Heh, all I have is a ROM of FF3/6J, FF7, and a PC demo of FF8... :}

Aaron> <<The Kirk/Picard thing was only meant in jest.>> I know; that's how I responded to it. ;D <<Kinda like Goliath, eh? (I'm gonna get hit for that one)>> I doubt it; I never thought of lavender as anything but a feminine color until encountering Goliath. :P

Warpmind> Langmaker.com> OOOOOOOoooooohhhhh... 8D I could use this...

Mara> <<I've been having trouble with hackers as of late, the last and most evil thing happening being the stealing of my aol SN and changing of my password.>> ACK! O_O' That...that's just absolutely...<speechless with horror>

Niamhgold> <<I'm going to be warding away the bouquet with garlic and a cross ;) >> A tennis racket might be more practical. Or a nun's habit. :P

Jenna> Congratulations! :D Hope they succeed. And great names they've chosen. ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:06:31 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Today was a very painful day. Take me seriously, but I had an accident at work and melted off the skin on my wrist. It hurts! It turned white immediately so that means it'll leave a beautiful scar :( How did it happen? We have a heat gun at work that melts plastic and it touched my arm. So you could see my surprise when I noticed the incredible sting, look down, and see my skin sliding off. *sigh*

***TIMEDANCER SPOILERS***
I'm so glad TD is back! For some reason, my life is happier when TD is running. It must be the active imagination. All in all, I thought the story was good. But just for constructive criticism, I was somewhat disappointed. I just feel that Brooklyn's reaction and character was all wrong. After leaving Sata, I expected him to breakdown and sob for days and days. Maybe even get drunk :) His immediate witty comments seemed off, even for Brooklyn. Leaving his mate is suppose to be tramatizing because he really doesn't know if he'll ever see her or his children again. And I thought a long period of depression would have been interesting: him fearing that Sata and the twins are dead, or just holding onto his faith that he'll get back to them. The story was awfully short too. It was still really good, as TD always is. Good job staff! Keep it coming.

David G> I agree with your theory of the length of time it will take Brooklyn to get back. If he suddenly reappeared right after he left, it would almost seem pointless. I also envision Sata being alone with the twins for a few years before he returns. It would make Brooklyn's relationship with his twins more meaningful.
***END SPOILERS***
SOROW
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:06:09 AM
IP: dll2a020-0663.splitrock.net

Lordy, lordy ... miss a day and kerflooie!

Catherine Zeta-Jones > while I suppose she would fall into the sumptuous category (though I am dubious about her choice of men), I don't really hear her as Sybil. Theresa Zane from Black Roses, sure, if Salli's not available ...

Green Baron > Anneke, Sybil, and Lord V.? Goodness ... ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, March 24, 2000 12:00:52 AM
IP: 04-167.009.popsite.net

Quickie Post

Doug>I'm sorry but I cant read your story, I dont read R-rated stories, maybe someone else will read it and give you a review instead. Sorry.

Pistoff>The poll is still running, I'll do a poll update next time I post.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:53:19 PM
IP: spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com

**enters a very warm CR** Oiii ... **pulls a lever and douses everything in the room's fire sprinklers** All right everyone, cool off!!

SJ, re: Freud: Oh yeah ... y'know, there's a movement in psychiatric circles to move away from Freud's theorems, mainly because a lot of them were somewhat nonsensical ... not to mention this is the same guy who said cocaine was a "wonder drug" and was a regular user. It's also theorized that Freud's concepts of psychoanalysis were largely developed while under the influence of the Magical White Powder That Makes Everything So Nice To Deal With. (note dripping sarcasm)

Fire Storm: Okay ... keep this in mind when ya finally get to see ACO ... my mother went to see it when it was first released (she was stationed in Maryland at the time), and said most of the moviegoers came out shaking their heads ... some liked it, some didn't, but most of them were going "What in the *hell* did we just watch???"
Or in other words ... a good alternate title for ACO might be "Mindf**k of the Century."
As far as changing jobs ... the only reason why I don't, and believe me it's tempting (since I have two years' experience I could probably get $17/hr from Action Auto at least), is because I'm pretty much thisclose to becoming salaried at my current store. Salary usually means job security, unless I get sticky fingers (not bloody likely).

Mara-ko, I have your new SN on my list, all I need is for ye to come on and I'll find you, love. **kiss kiss**

Silverstar: Well, ya also have to consider that I grew up in different places ... I was fortunate enough to avoid Alaska (though my mom almost got stationed to NAS Adak), but in the same measure also lucky enough to avoid the Indian Ocean (those maniacs almost stationed my mom at Diego Garcia, a little nowhere island in the middle of the Indian Ocean whose entire area is covered by one huge Naval station.). Wound up with two stints in Hawaii, one in Washington state, one in California (she was stationed at NAS Miramar, the home of Fightertown USA), and was born in Japan (while she was stationed at NAS Atsugi).
As far as military life being a pain ... hell, it was baseline bureaucratic bullcrap that led my mother to retire after 20 years active duty.

Jannie: Dunno ... I gotta send my reg in tomorrow ... I'm waitin' for confirmation that my money order was received by the travel agent (I *did* send it express mail so that she'd get it and be able to book the flight). Ah well ...

**skips out of the room**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:31:35 PM
IP: zzz-209252248077.splitrock.net

Rodlox> okie dokie - just making sure you were not referring to my love, Denis!

Niamhgold> I'm not sure where or what the procedures are concerning the artwork. Click on my name for the G2K website. I know they have a link explaining the artwork :)

Speaking of G2K... has anyone received confirmation for their registration? The form said that we'd be notified when received, but neither Denis nor I have received anything. I sent them in back in January too O_O

Jessie> what a hoot! I loved your link =) Thanks for the much needed laugh! ;)

Nighty-night *special g'night hug and kiss for Denis*
je t'aime mon Denis!

Jannie
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:21:36 PM
IP: 216-90-185-106.hou.port.mytelco.com

Lilac once again, and a very manly lilac too.

**Censored non-directed comment on recent unpleasantness**

Warpmind> <<Aren't we all the product of two biologists>>: Yes, but to two trained biologists, with degrees?

Aaron> <<"A manly lilac" Kinda like Goliath, eh>>: I always thought it was supposed to be lavendar. I'm going with lilac because it is so much harder to make something named after a flower manly that it proves my extreme manlyness.

Mandolin> <<Hackers? Oh, for the love of...>>: Again, as a pedant geek, I feel I must point out that crackers are the ones doing harmfull mischeif, while hackers only explore the intricasies of various systems. For more complete definitions, see the Jargon File http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/

Fire Storm> <<Aww... What fun is that?>>: Not much. Do you know what a bureaucratic labyrinth it is here. Then there's the completely ugly bussing system (one of which spontaneously combusted the other day on Route 18 going to Busch). And don't even mention Fran.

Delwyn Adara> <<Ukraine>>: Aha, another Uke. I'm exactly 1/4 Uke, second generation, and I seem to remember that Lady Mystic has a good concentration too.

Na zdorov'ya.
gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Thursday, March 23, 2000 10:44:52 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Everyone: Thank you for the warm welcome, I've been to a lot of rooms in my long experience (I'm supposed to be hosting a couple, now that I think about it) but it's rare to get such a greeting. Also thank you for explaining the whole writing senario.
Re: New TimeDancer ep,and that means SPOILERS AHOY!!! ****
Overall it was nice to see some farmiliar words used in one of my favorite shows (moi born in Ukraine, moi speak Russian), as well as see my second favorite character in the show. (the first being the one pictured) Though I can't help but insert a bit of dialogue in there:
Brooklyn: [in reference to the Gate] Besides, it's broken.
I keep wondering, if he were to say that, would Puck tell him about Loki? Would he stare in shock? We keep hearing about a prophesy of a TimeDancer, but we have yet to hear what it really is. And further, what good would a broken Gate be to Puck, he calls Brooklyn the TimeDancer, so he should know that the Gate is not acting properly, yet he still wants it. Of course he would never know himself to be the catalyst for the malfunction in the Gate, nor be aware it was caused by his desire to remain with humanity a little longer (classic irony right there), and that's a beautiful touch.
****END SPOILERS****

Delwyn Adara - [janie@stratos.net]
RB Central, Ohio, USA
Thursday, March 23, 2000 10:20:53 PM
IP: 209.119.11.195

Silverstar: i, for one, agree that gargs probably are just as capable of discrimination as humans and fae; they might not use physical discrimination, but ethics and-or religion instead.....gargoyles in a jihad?

Jannie: <<ummm who exactly are you referring to?>> oh, just a person who, despite their scathing insults at me, was afraid to use their own name even in their email signature.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:54:19 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

WELL I HAVE SOMETHING TO LIGHTEN THE ROOM--

my sister in law and her husband annouced the other day that they are going to try to have a child!! ^_^ So you all keep your talons crossed for them, you hear.

Now the interesting thing is the names they have choosen (and yes this is garg related). If they have a girl they will name her Phoenix. If they have a boy, they will call him Romulo Griffin. (I almost hope they have a boy so I can call him Griff!!!!!!! ^_^)

JENNA
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:39:26 PM
IP: 1cust41.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Minor update to the TGS CR Pics choose page. It loads a helluva lot faster now.

Warpmind: <You managed to rid yourself of the terrible joke? Awwww, poor thing.>
Looks like you thwarted temptation yourself!

Gside: <A lot of the "badness" results from those we have to deal with to get stuff done, so I don't think a visit would reveal much of the horror that is Rutgers.>
Aww... What fun is that? :)

I didn't think you were. I am glad that you are helping me, though, by posting your text color.

Selanit: 
I'd say. 350mb for only $24 a month. Thats pretty dang good!
($24 American or $24 British?)
<Well, I don't want to do a gratuitous advertisement>
Hey, whatever works!
Hmm... sounds good, though. I'll think about it.
Only problem is that I have 2 domain names, and for $48 a month, I can get a DSL line and make my own server...
Although...

Aaron: <The Kirk/Picard thing was only meant in jest. I never debate the relative merits of Trek captains. It tends to get a lot uglier then what's going on now.>
I know, I know... I can't really debate this topic well anyway. I really have only seen the most recent 3 series, so I don't know that much about Picard.

Niamhgold: <At least I get free plane tickets out of the deal and two bridesmaid dresses>
May the dresses not be REALLY bad ones! (The point of bridesmaid dresses is to make sure that the bridesmaids are NOT prettier than the bride. :)
<(although I'm going to be warding away the bouquet with garlic and a cross>
Will that be enough, though?
The less and less you want it, the more likely you are to catch it! (Murphys law)

Madame Destine: <Hey... how come this room doesn't have a pic of Dominique Destine?>
We are just waiting for Gorebash to put up the coding. There is a picture all ready, and you can see it at the image archive page (my link)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:32:45 PM
IP: t3-75.visitus.net

Pistoff, Crzy Demona, and anyone else involved in this flame war- Stop it right now. Argue to each other privately via e-mail. Not in here. Flame wars will not be tolerated. This is not the first time you two have had serious arguments about the other's character in here. I've ranted about flame wars before. I won't waste my time doing so again, since I obviously waste my time doing so. Shut up now or I'm banning you both, along with anyone else who keeps this flame war going. You are both my friends, but that does not put you above the rules. This is warning one AND two, and I expect this topic to be dead, no matter who has been offended, next time I am in here.

Now, there is a brand new episode of Timedancer that I and a couple of others spent a lot of time working on. Instead of yelling at each other, read that and comment on the story. Thank you, and have a nice day.
Robby the not very pleased CR Admin
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:17:42 PM
IP: spider-tq023.proxy.aol.com

Pistoff - Yeah, that is why you wanted to marry me! LOL! Oh BTW, I love how sexual situations make you feel uncomfortable and make you feel like you are a peeping tom.... but you feel perfectly comfortable making lewd BJ slams. Did that turn you on or something? Betcha read it over and over and over... :P

Warpmind - I know... sorry dude. You just don't bring up people's children in rude comments about them. It made my blood boil.... still does.

Scott - Welcome to my honest opinion... are you attacking me for it? And yes... he DID attack the person... and even brought that person's daughter into it... tsk tsk tsk on you, Scotty boy... oh... and it is DOCTOR Crzy... I didnt go through 4 years of Crzy school to be called just Crzy. :P

Greg B - I am very honored that you feel such about my person. Thanks kiddo! :)

Welp... this is about it for me. I got better things to worry about.
CrzyDemona
Thursday, March 23, 2000 08:57:20 PM
IP: 209.150.94.73

Rodlox> <) if anyone's "numb from the neck up" {Batty Koda}, it would be that fan/friend(?) of yours who kept issueing scathing insults and "i hope you die painfully" comments, even after you accepted my apology. >

ummm who exactly are you referring to?

Jannie
Thursday, March 23, 2000 08:26:47 PM
IP: 216-90-185-176.hou.port.mytelco.com

Alright, just read what was going on in the room. Let me just say these few things.

Flame wars> Never been involved in one and don't wanna' be!

Niamhgold> <<Duck and cover>> I'll follow you on that one (ducks and covers her head)

***Time Dancer Spoilers***
Just read it! It did seem kind of short but it was good! Anya seems like she could have more depth written for her, but considering the length of it, it fit. She seems like a really good character and the "past of Puck" was very well written. All in all, it was a good ep. and I can't wait for the next one!
***End Spoilers***

Well, got work to do!
*Bye!*
silverstar
Thursday, March 23, 2000 07:48:30 PM
IP: l1p19.dav.mother.com

Hey... how come this room doesn't have a pic of Dominique Destine? >:)

Just here real quick before I go download a copy of the new TD story. I've just posted a new short fic... Volume One of a new series called "The Secret Diaries." I'll be posting these short stories as an interlude while I plot the next chapter in the bigger saga. :)

Comments/feedback to my e-mail or in the adult comment room, please... I see tempers are still flaring from over a week ago... and I don't wanna stir that fire even with a ten-foot pole.

:: hurries off to read TD ::
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 07:41:46 PM
IP: abddb368.ipt.aol.com

Still Grey (which is still the coolest way to spell "gray")

*** Timedancer Comments/Spoilers ***
I tried really hard to wait and read the new episode when I got home, but I couldn't stand the suspense, so I read it on my break at work.

Pretty good, all things considered. The story felt just a bit rushed. I would have liked to see more development, but what there was was well done. I also might have characterized Brooklyn a bit differently, either playing him as more tired and resigned, or more angry and brutal. Then again, maybe the true magnitude of his seperation from Sata hasn't set in yet, and in a few episodes the initial shock will wear off.

I can see that we're going to have that argument about how much Faerie magic can heal again. Since I'm kind of a depressing person anyway, I probably would have let Ilya die, which would have been a good lesson for Puck.

Still, I really enjoyed the story, and I'm looking forward to next week's episode.

I hope we'll see at least a few interludes with what happens to Sata during the time she's seperated from Brooklyn. It's unlikely that the Gate will take him back to the exact moment he left, or even to exactly when the eggs will hatch. I've always had this vague sense that Sata was left alone with the twins for several years before Brooklyn was able to return.
*** End TD SPOILERS ***

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, March 23, 2000 07:22:44 PM
IP: dll2a020-1249.splitrock.net

Great news! If we move to a town about 5 or 10 driving minutes away from where we live now, I can still go to my HS! (100 watt smile) Things are finally looking up! Also glad that TD started (still haven't read it thought just got home)! I'm using way too many exclamation marks! Okay, I'll stop! : )

Alright I was sitting in class taking a *boring* test when I thought of something. People are prejudice but are gargs? No really! We discriminate against race, religion, so on, but do gargs? Demona doesn't like humans, okay, she hates them, but she made friends with Andrea, so she isn't prejudice. But really I would like to hear your views, opinions and whatever else you think about this subject, because, well I asked!

Coyote> I might not like the summers but as long as it's cold! I *LOVE* the cold! I know, I'm weird.

David G.> I get emotional when it comes to, well anything!

Dumlao X> Sorry for your loss! I haven't lost anyone really close to me so I won't try to pretend that I do. I hope you and your family get through this.

Warpmind> Thank you! : )

Gside> I know the laws are there to protect people but I think they protect criminals more than the innocent. Sure sometimes justice prevals, but a lot of the times, CAN YOU SAY GETTING OFF WITH MURDER? Sides I would just bribe the judge! ; )

Green Baron> Don't join! My mom and dad are trying to get out because they HATE it! They are always complaining of a##holes at their work. If you do join, go for a job where you leave on a lot of trips!

Well, gonna read TD!
silverstar
Thursday, March 23, 2000 06:54:39 PM
IP: l1p38.dav.mother.com

Color: Cyan (AKA Green-blue, ocean, seafoam, teal, the secondary color of light, etc...)

A friend of mine just came back from college to tell me she's getting married! Plus, a friend of ours, who now lives in Minnesota, is getting married _and_ is pregnant! It's spring fever, I tell you! At least I get free plane tickets out of the deal and two bridesmaid dresses (although I'm going to be warding away the bouquet with garlic and a cross ;)

Cherry: Glad you're back! True...Ohio's flat. But Wisconson is cold and full of cows. It's a toss up :)

Jessie: Great link! |;]

Robby: Elisa's theme? Somehow, I'm reminded more of Puck's airy theme...but maybe that's cause I can't put a tune to Elisa's theme.

Green Baron: <Homestead> grins :)

Flame wars: I'm just going to follow my life motto: Duck and cover

Jannie: I can't go to G2K, but I'm sending in my artwork. Do I need to fill out the artshow registration portion by Mar 31? And what address should I ship it to?

The Rory pic seems to resemble Matt Bluestone a bit, hmm? Interesting...maybe there's a lineage plot I can come up with. Or maybe it's just because, IMHO, Matt's the cutest character :)

Cyan and still going strong :)

see ya!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 06:43:37 PM
IP: ncia84n.ncia.net

Short post since I'm struggling with a paper and need to take a break. (The next time I take more than six credits of English, shoot me!)

Mara> Hackers? Oh, for the love of... Those kind of people really need a life.

Flame war> **skims down, sighs, gives up** I'm staying out of this.

Rodlox re: Stargate SG-1> Aren't they just referred to as the Asgards, spelled like the Norse spelling of "Asgard?" That's how the closed captioning (and the official site) spells it... BTW, I actually plan to have my "Children of the Gods" transcript up on my site before the fourth season starts.

Todd re: the Asgards> In "Thor's Hammer" and "Thor's Chariot" it was revealed that the Asgards used their technology to appear in the forms of the Norse gods (at least to the humans on the planet Sumeria) since their true forms might not have been accepted. I think. It's been a while since I've watched those episodes.

Ugh, I have GOT to get this paper done before rehearsal... later, all...

Aaron> <<"A manly lilac" Kinda like Goliath, eh? (I'm gonna get hit for that one)>> LOL! Not by me, you aren't! Hehehe...

Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 06:43:05 PM
IP: 144.175.20.114

Hi everyone... wow, seems like it's been forever since I've posted here..

I just need to make a sad announcement

Those who talk to me in IM know I've been having trouble with hackers as of late, the last and most evil thing happening being the stealing of my aol SN and changing of my password. Unable to get in and figuring if they cvan do it once, they can do it again, i had no choice but to delete the sn Callistis.

So, Don, Lisa, Kaioto and Green Baron, if you're going to IM me, please use

VeronicaMDestine

It's a character sn I've been using for a while, you can get through to me using it. Ciao

Mara *sigh* Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 06:10:32 PM
IP: spider-wj032.proxy.aol.com

*wrinkles her nose* ya know, Ohio is FLAT. Wisconsin has hills. *pouts* no offense to anyone in here that lives in Ohio or happens to like it, but I don't think I like it. at all....

cherry blossom
Thursday, March 23, 2000 05:51:19 PM
IP: spider-th022.proxy.aol.com

Yeah, again. *shrug* I dunno....flamewars aren't the only reason, but I find myself coming into this room once a week, rather than several times a day like I used to. Partly it's that I'm busier than I used to be, but still...

Nothing to add this week.
Stormy
Thursday, March 23, 2000 05:47:33 PM
IP: refcdrom.huron.uwo.ca

**Tosses in a light-hearted link to distract everyone from the flames.**

Check this out. You'll laugh.

Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 05:47:05 PM
IP: ctrts3-7.mrs.umn.edu

*Warpmind enters, grinning.*

Hi, gang. Found something fun. Click my name for a nice site, if you plan on making your own language. Oh, and Christine? You might find this one useful, with the elven language you're brewing on. :)
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, March 23, 2000 05:42:57 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Jesus Christ, not again.

Pistoff> You have to work on your tact. That was completely uncalled for. And it's funny that you complain about someone posting a link to an erotic story, and then you go and speak of someone the way that you did in a public forum. You're a hypocrite. And if there is anything I can't stand it's hypocracy. And I'm not even getting into the fact that the person you said these things to is a friend of mine. I think you owe several people an apology, but I'm not expecting you to give one.

BTW, I often talk to Crzy through an AOL instant message system, and I've met her at two Gatherings. I can say that she's a pleasure to be around.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 04:19:16 PM
IP: dialin-114-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Kyryn: thanks...[but] i was just idly wondering. {i come up with lots of varied ideas, but rarely can flesh them out....bloody frustrating}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 04:08:30 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Well, we were due a flare-up.

Wilek/FS> The Kirk/Picard thing was only meant in jest. I never debate the relative merits of Trek captains. It tends to get a lot uglier then what's going on now.

GB> I dunno, SUVs just bug me. They're too damn big, and they always seem to be piloted by idiots who don't know how to park them, turn them, or what that little lever on the left side of the steering wheel does.

Gside> "A manly lilac" Kinda like Goliath, eh? (I'm gonna get hit for that one)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, March 23, 2000 03:53:52 PM
IP: ppp-25.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Scott:> Actually, I don't seem I attacked Pistoff's person or his opinions, 'cause that's his own stuff. I just said that I didn't like the way he expressed himself, or the fact he insulted Crzy that way. Expressing an opinion doesn't mean insulting people that way, at least I think so.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, March 23, 2000 03:12:04 PM
IP: h213-20-150.mi2.albacom.net

*Archwolf gomes strolling into the room, then sees the NEAR FLAMING remarks flying around*FIRE IN THE HOLD!!*Then digs a hole in the floor, lines it with barbedwire, and stocks it with lots of provisions*

As for timedancer, I thought it was a little short, but it was a good ep. Can't wait for the next one.

Well, I'm gonna sit here in my hole and wait things out. Back when it gets civil!

Shade and Sweet water to EVERYONE!
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 03:05:54 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Crzy & Shadowrider > I don't like it when people are attacked for expressing their honest opinion, especially here in a comment room. They are entitled to their opinions, and should be able to express said opinions without fear of rebuke.

Pistoff was not talking about people. He was talking about a kind of writing, only using people to draw examples from them. Attacking someone's writing is not the same as attacking that person.

Now, you've gone and attacked the person. You've attacked his "attitude" and his "sexuality."

That's just bad form.

And now you've drawn me into it. Am I attacking you? Maybe. But not with malicious intent. I just want this whole business to stop, regardless of who attacked whom first.

Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil - [smiskow@wam.umd.edu]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:44:36 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

This from MSN:

MARCH 20, 2000 � What do you do when an Oscar-nominated song performance has the TV censors chewing their fingernails?

Give it to Robin Williams--and pray he doesn't decide to improvise.

Academy Awards producers say the manic funnyman (and TelePrompTer arch-nemesis) has been chosen to sing Sunday night's version of profanity-laced Best Song nominee, "Blame Canada," from the censor-mocking, Canada-bashing comedy, South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

The decision ends some lingering speculation about how this raucous little tune will turn out for millions of viewers on Sunday night's Oscar telecast on ABC. But it still doesn't resolve whether Williams also will be belting out ripe "Blame Canada" song lyrics featuring the words "f***," "fart" and "that bitch Anne Murray," without some well-rehearsed bleeping from the network censors.

Song collaborators Trey Parker and Marc Shaiman initially opposed any attempts to creatively change the lyrics (� la Ed Sullivan). Academy reps say their solution will remain a surprise for Sunday night.
�MSN's Academy Awards Central

What we do know is that Williams already has the pipes for 'toon musicals--even clean ones. As the genie in Disney's 1992 hit Aladdin, he belted out the dizzying number, "Friend Like Me," and took home special awards from the National Board of Review and Golden Globes for his voice work in the film. A publicist for the comic actor says Williams has been rehearsing "Blame Canada," but exactly how he will sing it remains under wraps.

"Blame Canada," of course, remains one of the tamer selections from the South Park soundtrack. After all, the mildly successful, but critically lauded, flick was deemed the most raunchy film ever--logging 399 bad words and 128 crude gestures in just 80 minutes.

And while the Academy hasn't provided specifics, Williams will need to put his Mrs. Doubtfire skills to work. The song is led by four mothers of the round, potty-mouthed South Park stars: Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny.

Tim P.
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:05:58 PM
IP: bn821-01.wsc.edu

Fire Storm> <<Your using your own server too? Cool! What connection are you using? T1? DSL? Other?>>

Actually, no. I bit the bullet and found a hosting company to keep my domain for me. All told, I spent a bit more than $500 dollars. That was a lump sum that covers *everything* for two years -- the monthly fee works out to $24, plus domain registration and a one-time startup fee of $25. I get 350MB web space, unlimited bandwidth on a T3 server, 100 email accounts, access to MySQL and PHP 3.0912. I have my own SMTP and POP3 servers, FTP and Telnet access to my server, and all sorts of goodies. I am quite pleased, all told.

<>

Well, I don't want to do a gratuitous advertisement, but you might check out the company that's doing my hosting for me. I think the prices are fair, given the leval of services provided. Besides, I know the guy who runs it, and he's a good guy. Click my name to visit the site. He does design, too.

*** New TGS Ep Comment ***

Ooooo! I want to read it, but I've got essays to do! Drat.

*** End TGS Ep Comment ***

Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:02:31 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

***Kyryn sneaks in from work***

Firestorm> I post using the color peach.

Warpmind> Yes, there will be an ep next week, providing of course that DC and others don't interfere (glares at DC)

Rodlox> Story ideas are taken only from those currently on staff. However, at some point in the future we will be holding a recruitment drive for more staff, at which time you can apply to join. When we hold a recruitment drive we will announce it in the CRs.

*****Kyryn sneaks back to work****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:47:02 PM
IP: 216.35.46.135

Pistoff:> I noticed your attitude, so I usually don't care much your comments. But, this time, you passed the limit. No matter what you happen to think about someone, you're not allowed to speak to anyone the way you did with Crzy. If you want to criticize, there are far more civil ways to do it. I hope you did it in a moment of rage of insanity, and you repented immediately after. I really hope it, for your own good.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:42:16 PM
IP: h213-18-55.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, casts a glance at what has happened since he last posted, and gasps.*

Gside: Aren't we all the product of two biologists, if we include even laypeople in the term? ;)

And now: Pistoff and CrzyDemona: Will you two PLEASE make friends? This CR is a place for people with one unifying interest to discuss things and have fun, not verbally abuse each other! And no, I'm not taking sides here; I just want the brimstone to stop flying in the air.

As for the new Timedancer ep: Marvellous! A little short, perhaps, but at least there was no unnecessary filling material. :) And we can expect a new episode next week, I hope? :)

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:36:01 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**TD SPOILER**

Just read the new episode. Funny, indeed. I agree with Peter about Brooklyn's reaction of Sata's missing. It fits the character, particularily the fact he doesn't want anyone to see him as he is suffering her love's absence. Just another little thing: there's no surprise that in the vision that Puck summoned in "Future Tense", Brooklyn had the same appearance he had at the end of his Timedancing (Chestplate, forearm gloves and so)...actually, Puck saw that outfit, centuries before, but he did!

**END SPOILER**

Green Baron:> St. Joseph's day. I asked my father about it. He told me that, till 70's, it used to be a public holyday, with everything that comes along. In early 70's, for variuos reasons, a lot of religious holidays were deleted from civil holydays calendar. So, in old Italian movies, you can see St. Joseph's day celebrated more intensely than now.

Enough for now, back later!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:32:14 PM
IP: h213-20-65.mi2.albacom.net

Just a quick one for now...

Warpmind: Thanks, I just got the email. If I finish the MiST before Mara finishes hers, I guess I'll go ahead and post it...

Rodlox: Whatever. I give up.

Crzy: Oh, I'm quite secure. You, however, are the one who seems to have the problems. I already said that my comments to Christine were not an attack on her. And they were not directed at you...however, you're just using this as an excuse to take a cheap shot at me. I don't give a rat's ass about your opinion. After all, you revealed yourself for what you really are when you posted my private email in here for all to see. I was not attacking Christine or insulting her, but in your latest post you did nothing BUT insult me. You're just a cheap whore who shouldn't open her mouth unless she's giving head. You're pathetic, and I feel sorry for anybody who has to endure your presence for any length of time.
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:18:04 PM
IP: cb2-85.transport.com

Lilac (Yes, Lilac, and I make it a manly Lilac)

silverstar> <<she said that I shouldn't go aroundkilling people even if they do deserve it>>: Says someone working for the Air Force.

David G.> <<and there was great rejoicing>>: Much rejoicing.

Mecord> <<hope you come down from the lurking station more often>>: Right before I delurked, it was revealed that lurkers hang out at the bar, currently tended by a hunchback (Igor I believe).

Katara> <<I've had N'Sync "Bye,bye, bye" runing in my head>>: Ear Worm!!! (supposedly that's the scientific name for that general condition)

Wilek> <<You also a Final Fantasy fan?>>: Seeing as I am in possession of the data of the first seven games (modified in two cases, two others I have copies one modified, one not), for which I have paid a grand total of ~$13 (4 CDs+ handling fee), I'd say yes. (All of my FF5 characters have mastered all possible jobs, including mimic)

Robby> <<since I wasn't sure how a flute was supposed to be held>>: Shouldn't it have extented a tad beyond the last sound hole? And what note was that, D?

Fire Storm> <>: A lot of the "badness" results from those we have to deal with to get stuff done, so I don't think a visit would reveal much of the horror that is Rutgers. Also, since much of the oddity comes from the students in more of a social setting (although that is almost antonymous with engineering), I don't think you would be exposed to much on your standard campus visit.
<< <Smiles> Cool!>>: I was mainly referring to my habit of rotating my color, even though I do not think I will venture outside of my pattern specifically for your purposes.

Warpmind> <<as for the gene pool issue, well, you're the engineer, I'm the layman, 'kay>>: But remember, I'm in EE, not Biomed (And if I was, I'd probably inhale too many narcotics in the lab (see http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~tfarrell/stupid.html)). But then again, I am the product of two biologists...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rurgers.edu]
New Brusnwick, NJ
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:14:04 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Mr Jensen: {sorry if i misspelled your name}...part of the theme of Stargate SG-1 is that, at various points in human history, civilization has been boosted or laid flat by alien intervention.
...the goa'uld took the roles of many egyptian, greek, and hindu deities...
....while the Ancients {builders of the stargates} taught the Romans how to make roads, and taught the Romans how to speak Medival Latin. {i know, it doesn't make sense}....
...the Azgards took on the role of the Norse gods; their leader is Thor {at least, he's their current leader}.

if you have more questions about sg1, just ask.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:52:28 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*Warpmind enters, followed by his chibis.*

Fire Storm: Compadre, I post in gold.

Green Baron: I didn't say we needed much. Just enough to keep an eye on the most hardened criminals. Ordinary law-abiding citizens should be allowed to keep their own arsenal.

Gside: Know what? Let's just drop the emperor/emporer debate, shall we? ;) And as for the gene pool issue, well, you're the engineer, I'm the layman, 'kay? (Though a layman who has read a lot of popular science magazines.)

Silverstar: I shall commit such a mistake no more. At least not intentionally. :)

Christine: Ooo, you got a review? Must see...

Wilek: Trust me, I understood what you *meant* to say in the spell, but the translation was terrible. ;)

Pistoff: E-mail is on the way. Provided othing weird happens, you should have the username and password in the mail right about now.

Fire Storm again: You managed to rid yourself of the terrible joke? Awwww, poor thing. ;)

Green Baron: Indeed, 69 ain't old today. You say he could easily have 20 more years; I say 40 more years doesn't sound impossible, either. ��

Well, that's about it. No RP today; kinda temporarily stumped.

*Warpmind heads out, his chibis shrug and follow him.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:37:16 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Pist off -

One, Starship Troopers: If you think that this show is just about shooting at bugs, then you are one of the very few that missed the point completely. I haven't seen a show with this much character developement in AGES. It is a very emotional show, more than once it has touched me as to bring tears to my eyes. But you probably flipped it on... let your 5 second attention span take hold... and flipped it off.... really... your loss.

Two, Christine's stories are for those who are secure in their sexuality. We don't expect you to understand. I am more than sure she is proud of all her stories and her daughter will be proud too. She is raising her daughter to be secure and confident in herself and her life. I am betting that if Becca didn't like the stories as an adult... she wouldn't read them, but she certainly won't think less of her mother for them... She would be proud that her mother was doing what she wanted to do with her life. LOVE YOU BECCA!!

Three, Jesse Ventura... at least he was smart enough to pass up that job at Pizza hut, huh? ;)

Conclusion, you simply don't like anything that is widely accepted by others or people that are popular... why? because you are neither.

... but that's just my opinion... I could be wrong.
CrzyDemona
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:26:41 PM
IP: 209.150.94.75

My color = bright blue.

RODLOX - Are these "Azgardians" whom you mention connected to the Norse gods, or is the similarity of their name to "Asgard" merely a coincidence? (It's probably the latter, since the Greys don't strike me in appearance as that evocative of Odin, Thor, and Co., but I thought that I'd ask anyway).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:20:53 PM
IP: 216.87.46.202.dialup-stl.primary.net

****TGS SPOILERS****

A Merrier Hour: Good season premier. Brooklyn's reaction to his separation from Sata was well written and definitly fit the character. I enjoyed the developement given to Puck. The illustrations were great. And Piotr does look related to Link.

****END SPOILERS****

DumlaoX> My condolences.

Colour> Bright Blue
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:10:18 PM
IP: dial-217.ocis.net

RP WARNING!!!
**Russell, Kansas
Obi One Bob is back in his identity as mild-mannered ex-Senator and stand-up comedian Bob Dole.

He is currently at the Improv discussing his latest one-liners and impressions. Suddenly, he gets a call showing he is needed urgently at Los Angeles.

In Wyoming, Charleton Heston is practicing his marksmanship when he recives a similar distress call.

In Washington DC, a number of people get teh same distress call. Among, Senators John McCain, Fred Thompson, and Phil Gramm. Also getting a call are Representatives JC Watts, Gene Taylor, Jim Rogan, Lindsey Graham, and Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Anthony Kennedy, and Sandra Day O'Connor. They have all received Reverend Attila's distress call and they are out to help him.**
END RP for now!!

Doug> $I just called in the calvary for you. I hope you like the choices$

Silverstar> Air Force is where I'm planning to enter after College.

DumlaoX> I'm glad you're hanging in tehre and glad to see you occassioanlly read the CR. $I hope you don't mind the little rumble down in South Central. BTW, any requests on what you want done with Maxine Waters :)$

David G> I remember a song called there she goes again making fun of the "wonderful wisdom" of Jocelyn Elders :)

Delwyn> Welcome

XenaTrek> ::opens arms and puckers up for her return to the CR::

Christine> Hmmm...I think Mae West is dead. I had a thought for a story, Lord Verdant and Anneke meet Sybil :)

SOROW> OK. I understand now.

SJ> I will never understand what Catherine Zeta Jones sees in Mike Douglas. She can do a lot better.

69 is not that old today. He should have another 20 years left.

Pistoff> I need to find a pic of the tie. It is one of my favorites along with my beige bowtie.

Aaron> Banning SUVs? I don't like them and I see no reaosn for them outside states with big ass mountains, like Colorado, California and those areas, but I don't know if I want tehm banned. Hoepfully, this energy crisis will phase them out somewhat. Me, I use mass transit, but if I drove, I'd want that Honda that takes 71mpg. I can't wait till I can get one of those cars used. $$$$

Now, I'm off. No more to say for now :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:24:44 AM
IP: 141.164.133.103

DERN LOT BOYS!

That was MINE!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:13:43 AM
IP: t3-72.visitus.net

Cyborg: Nice twist on the bard!
(BTW... do Cyborgs dream of electric sheep? :)

Shadowrider: <whose classification is supposed to be VERY difficult)>
If not impossible. The best I can say about them is that they are definately in the Animalia order (I think. It's been years since I took bio.)

Taleweaver/Mathew: <If BKN or whatever banjalo is in charge would just play the thing in order it'd be golden.>
Sci-Fi and BKN will start playing it in order starting May 15

SJ: <Except for the Rock. The Rock I can forgive for any political blunderings>
No offense, but isn't "I can forgive for any political blunderings" why most people have stayed president? :)
<I'd vote for The Rock in 2000>
If he DEFINATELY wouldn't nuke other countrys, he may not be worse than our current choices.

Coyote: <... the arrangement was first used in "A Clockwork Orange.">
Thats it. I am gonna rent that sucker soon and see what it is about.
<Your Job>
Since other stores are hiring people with your experience at roughly twice the money you are currently making, why don't you go to one of those places?
<990000>
Wow! You even gave the HEX value! Thanks!
<by my estimate, we've gotten up to 100+ in the former and -40 and lower in the latter ... in the *same year.*>
Don't forget that we have gone from 80+ to 28+ in only 48 hours!
<Just make sure ya winterize yer car *reeeeeeeeeeeeeal* good before you decide to move here. Word of advice.>
One reason I REALLY don't want to see the underbody of my car!

Kitania: 
I hope so too. Heres something to make you hurt him more:
When he was being arrested, he didn't seem to care about his daughter at all.

Gside: <So I have heard you claim, which is why I felt like apologising.>
Well, I definately thank you for that.
<Who needs New York?>
I went there for the Gathering, but I must say, I am curious about visiting your campus (if it is as bad/wierd/interesting as you say!)
<Congratulations. As a certified data hoarder, I can understand the threat of data loss.>
Yeah, especially since the 3 days before the crash I downloaded 400mb over a 56k connection.

<Smiles> Cool!

Warpmind: 
It was hard, but I was able to beat the idea out of my head. :)

Thanks to all who have written thier color names. That will help LM and I get the colors page up!

Aaron: <Kirk was still a better captain then Picard!>
Well, hell... DATA would be a better captian than Picard!

Selanit: 
Your using your own server too? Cool! What connection are you using? T1? DSL? Other?
I got my own domain as well, but no server for it (YET). If you type my domain name, it forwards it to my user page at my ISP.
<or even an early Pentium for a couple hundred bucks>
I love computer shows! Ya can BUILD a P233mmx with 32mb of ram for roughly $225, or buy a used 486 or Pentium for under $130.

Silverstar: 
I can also speak for Michigan, and I have to say...
No. I think we got a total of under 12 inches this year.

Matthew: <A video file of the Timedancer opening.>
Someday, maybe. I am working on a MAX model of Brooklyn now.

DumlaoX: I am glad you came here, even if it isn't under the best of circumstances.
you have definately been missed.

Pistoff: Just don't go postal if they do fire you!

Timedancer: FINALLY! A new episode! I liked it! Playful and fun!
Anonymous
Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:12:41 AM
IP: t3-72.visitus.net

Pistoff: Glad you posted the revised version of "They are Us." Good luck with the work stuff, you totally have my sympathies in the situation going on there. Thanks also for the feedback on the teaser, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hope you can catch up on my stories soon.

Small Teaser Clarification: For those who don't know, Moro is another original character in my fanfics. A young gargoyle warrior of the Ishimura Clan who also has the souls of Japan's greatest heroes flowing inside him much like Rory Dugan does those of Ireland. Arianna met him in "Protected Species" and quickly developed quite a crush. :)
Doug
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:48:21 AM
IP: pool-207-205-148-129.dlls.grid.net

i'm probably goig to be told that i'm just trolling for trouble with replying....oh well.

Pistoff: hello there; welcome back.
Pistoff: <<*stares in utter disbelief* Okay...first you try to steal my creations, then you want to MiST one of my stories and use one of my aliens that you appropriated for the MiST..>> um, no. i'll say this slowly {not for your benefit, but for mine: i'm still groggy}...
1) you invented hte gra'athi; i invented the hump-backed, long-spindly-armed, short-paddle-footed aliens. {yeah, maybe little to no difference}.
2) i've long since given up on that idea {MSTing}.
3) if anyone's "numb from the neck up" {Batty Koda}, it would be that fan/friend(?) of yours who kept issueing scathing insults and "i hope you die painfully" comments, even after you accepted my apology.

....walks away, wondering if it's possible for a being with no eyelids to do anything _but_ stare....

{interesting idea you've spurred, Pistoff}.

Rodlox
Thursday, March 23, 2000 09:12:28 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

UGH...Last couple of weeks have been...well, seems like it was one thing after another. And now it's past midnight and I'm half asleep, but I just needed to post something in here... Apologies for any comments I miss...

First of all, I posted a revised version of my Vinnie story, "And They are Us," in the archive. I found a few annoying typos that I missed the first time, and adjusted a few things here and there, most notably the direction the Ishimura clan faces when they sleep (still can't believe I screwed that up) and a certain joke one of the characters made, which I guess didn't go over too well with some people. I added a couple of lines, and hopefully that clarified it. I haven't put the revised version on my website yet; maybe tomorrow evening, with luck...

**WORK RANT**
The new place I'm working at is really getting to me. It happens every day--the store manager and shift managers--all of them female, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it--always end up sitting on their butts while I and the other day-shift guy get stuck doing almost all the work. They just sit there and flap their yaps, or watch the game show channel...and I can think of few things more pitiful than somebody sitting glued to the TV watching a game show that was cancelled 15 years ago...while we bust our butts. Now, if one of us decides to take a five-minute break, one of the bosses tells us to go do something like wash dishes, oil pans, or whatever. Then they go back to what they were doing--nothing.

I got fed up with it a few days ago. They were sitting at a table, yapping, while I was going around cleaning tables (Oh, some of these customers are SLOBS!!! but that's a whole 'nother rant...). One of them had told me to clock off and take my half-hour lunch break, and I had planned to clean up one last table before going off the clock. The shift manager asked me why I wasn't on my lunch break, and I told her point-blank, "I figured there should be _one_ person on the clock who's actually working."

And yesterday, I scorched another one of the shift managers. The other day-shift guy had paused a moment to look at one of the TVs, and the boss told him to get back to work, saying, "My crew _works_ when they're on the clock!" Without missing a beat, I said, "Well, Roy and I do, anyway."

Guh. If they fire me, I'll thank 'em for it.

**END WORK RANT**

Rodlox: <> *stares in utter disbelief* Okay...first you try to steal my creations, then you want to MiST one of my stories and use one of my aliens that you appropriated for the MiST...and THEN you ask if I'm available to proofread your stories?! The answer to that one is short and sweet: No, I'm not.

Bengali's polls: I don't know if these are still running, but what the hell. If Gargoyles was put back on TV, I'd prefer it with a TV-14 rating, so the plots could deal with more mature subject matter (plots that are more complex and hard-hitting, dealing with the kind of crime the gargs and police encounter all the time, and also their personal lives...) As for the possible spinoffs...well, I'd rather see the main series continue, but if that couldn't be done, maybe Bad Guys would be fun. I have no real interest in Timedancer, Pendragon, and especially Dark Ages.... G2158 might be interesting, but then we'd miss what happened in between, unless flashbacks were slipped in...

Mandolin: Ye gods! Sorry about the fire, but at least the damage wasn't as bad as it could've been, and nobody was hurt...

Jewel: That PETA thing...O_O Just when I start to think things can't get any weirder... The latest Horny Algerian-type--*gack!* First Gonad the Barbarian, and now this... But then, some people just seem to be magnets for annoying humanoids. Mine are called customers... ;)

Green Baron: <<Rodlox> I know this is between you and Pistoff, but judging from your last response, do you really enjoy pissing him off or do you just not understand no?>> LOL! Heh heh heh...actually, I think the clinical phrase would be, "paralyzed from the neck up." ;) Atilla the Hun tie--O_O This I gotta see...

Spacebabie: <<"We don't want fat free milk, we want Skim Milk">> O_o As Duke Nukem often says, "Holy $h!t!!" That reminds me, I need to update my Stupid Customers page. You all have just _got_ to hear about The Tweaker...

Aaron: "Tofurkeys"?! That's just appalling...

Warpmind: That thing with the cop...ack! I'm glad the situation didn't get any worse than that. I've been hassled by cops plenty, here, when I used to deliver newspapers at 3:00 AM every day. It's aggravating as hell, but at least nothing bad came of it....

Minimum wage stuff: Okay, here's the first thing I noticed when the minimum wage was raised before--my gross amount increased, obviously...but that simply meant more money was taken out for taxes. My net pay didn't increase that much because the government was using the wage increase to suck more money out of my paychecks. Meanwhile, the wage increase causes stores, restaurants, etc, to raise their prices because they're forking over more money to their employees, and we end up paying $1.49 for something that was 99 cents before the wage increase. But I guess that's how our government helps us. Aw, screw 'em....

Christine: Your response was pretty much what I expected. While I'm curious as to what your "motives" really are, it would be pointless to discuss it, not only because, as you said, we'll never agree on it--but also because regardless of your motives, the end result is the same. I guess I just don't understand the appeal of that kind of stuff. Back when I read some of those stories, and whenever I stumble across a "steamy" scene, it always makes me feel like a peeping tom. I mean, I wouldn't want to watch real people doing it, and the same applies to characters in a story. Which makes me wonder about people who enjoy reading that stuff...especially the ones you once told me about once, the ones who sent you weird requests, asking to see stories about Scar doing it with Simba, and so on. I just have to wonder...is this the kind of audience you want? Because that's the kind of audience you pander to whenever you write erotic stories about the Lion King or Obi-Wan Kenobi (and in the latter case, I just can't help thinking of Alec Guinness whenever that name comes up...*shudders*). Perhaps you've never even thought about this...or maybe you have and don't care. But really, is this something to be proud of? (which is the way many people act...as if writing a naughty story is creating a Great Work of Art) Which would your daughter be prouder of when she grows up--a story like "Something Old, Something New" or a naughty one about Obi-Wan Kenobi? Now, this is _not_ an attack. I got that out of the way in the rant. Now I'm merely pointing out something that you may want to think about, if you haven't already....

Actually, this reminds me of something that happened in a creative writing class I took at the community college here. When the class critiqued a story I'd written, one of the first things several people said was that they wanted to see more sex in the story. I had a scene with the two main characters kissing a few times, then they started to take their clothes off--and that was where I made a graceful segue into the next scene. Several people said they wanted to see these two characters having sex, every little detail of it. I wondered why, since such a thing wasn't even necessary and would in fact slow the progression of the plot and serve as little more than a distraction. The people said they just wanted to see that scene. Didn't offer a valid reason, they just wanted to see it. That was very disturbing. As soon as I heard those comments, two words popped into my mind: "You're pathetic." That kind of audience is NOT the kind I want....

SJ: I agree about the Klingon language thing. It's fun to goof around with it, but when people adopt it as some sort of official language... not even a real language, but one that was made up for a TV show and some movies...when I heard about this, I immediately thought of the SNL skit with Dana Carvey wearing an I GROK SPOCK shirt and Bill Shatner yelling "Get a life!" I also agree about Grendel--I was forced to read that in high school, and it bored me to the point where I almost wanted to slit my wrists... Actually, a fun use of Grendel can be found in the novel "The Legacy of Heorot" by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Steven Barnes. One of the fun things about that book was...there was more than one of the critters. ;)

Doug: <<I've noticed at the GFW archive that my latest story "Elysium" has only gotten three stars from people when my stories usually end up with four or five.>> I've had similar things happen. Usually I'd get four or five stars...but when I started re-posting the stories after fixing typos and doing a little editing, I noticed that many of them now have two stars. The problem with the star-rating system is that you don't know if somebody really didn't like the story, or somebody's just pissed at you. I've only read some of your earlier fics, and the only major thing I noticed was that they seemed "underwritten"--more like outlines than actual stories. But judging from the teaser you posted recently, I think you've improved a great deal. That scene was well-written and fleshed-out, and has me wondering how that situation came to be. (I've _got_ to catch up on these, if only I can find the time...I'm still lagging on email replies and fanfic progress...)

Jenna: That was a cool story about the Delilah T-shirt. :) And congrats on your anniversary! :D

DumlaoX: I wish I'd had time to say this sooner, but you have my condolences. :(

Starship Troopers: I gave up on this show a long time ago. I mean...they're shooting at giant bugs. How many different plots can you build around such a limited idea? The show _looks_ great, but that's all. *sigh*

Aaron again: Jello Biafra wants to ban SUVs? I hadn't heard about that one. Well, he's definitely got my vote! :D He actually had a lot of good ideas when he ran for mayor of San Francisco (and he also found out that (unless this has changed since the late '70s) in SF you can be eleccted mayor at age 18, but you have to wait till you're 26 before you can get a license to drive a taxi). His platform included things like allowing squatting in buildings that were left vacant for tax write-off reasons, banning automobiles from the city limits... One of my favorites, though it wasn't very practical, was his idea of making all businesspeople wear clown suits between the hours of nine and five. :)

Is Jessie Ventura smart enough to be govorner? Anybody seen a little movie called "Abraxis"? If he wasn't smart enough to turn down that little gem... ;)

Anne: Sorry about all the problems you're having. I can definitely sympathize. We'll miss having you here regularly, and look forward to seeing you soon....

Warpmind again: Eh...I seem to have lost the password for the Demona's Payback project. Could you email it again? I'm still trying to finish Episode 3, between the continuing $h!tstorms that my life has become recently. It should be done soon, though. I hope. I looked in the archive the other day and saw that Ep #2 still wasn't posted, so I guess I have some time to finish this one... ;)

And now I look at the clock and see that it's past 2:30 in the morning. Gotta get up in about 6 hours...and if my insomnia is still in full force, that means I'll get to sleep somewhere around 4:00...

I'm off to bed...I'll be back soon, I hope....
Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 05:48:14 AM
IP: cb2-81.transport.com

um...is it possible for we mere mortals, we peasants at the feet of the giants who grandly write TGS..may we submit story ideas for future episodes? if yes, then to where; and if no, then i thank you for your time, o Great One.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 03:03:30 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**ANOTHER TIMEDANCER SPOILER/COMMENT**

The "magical" tune Pietr plays, described as a "sweet, almost romantic tune that filled the air with a peaceful feeling" is, to me at least, Elisa's theme. You know, the one with all the flutes and whistles, usually played during a more romantic moment. (Or on one occasion, around the hot dog vendor...) Just a little side note to try and enhance the story some. That is of course, if you have any idea what tune I'm referring to...

Eh, oh well...

**END TIMEDANCER SPOILER/COMMENT**

Color is still rich orange.
Robby
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:34:48 AM
IP: spider-tf051.proxy.aol.com

**TIMEDANCER SPOILERS? REALLY JUST A COMMENT ON THE FIRST ILLUSTRATION**

Wilek- Actually, the picture of Pietr I did based off of real period dress and clothing. The haircut I just had fun with. Originally it was short, but I added the long locks afterwards when I decided it matched the rest of the gargs universe. As far as if he has any relation to Link? Actually, I *did* base the pose off of my Zelda manuals, since I wasn't sure how a flute was supposed to be held... Heh...

**END POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR TIMEDANCER**

DumlaoX- Condolances, and I hope ya stick around.

Color- Rich Orange.
Robby
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:14:21 AM
IP: spider-tf051.proxy.aol.com

**RP!**

[Forfexx and the Quencher are still on their merry chase through the station. This time, for once it's she who surprises he, with a leaping chop from behind that almost cleaves him in twain. He reforms, turns to face her, and quips, "Are you enjoying our little game as much as I am?" With that, he leaps down her throat and rips her to shreds from within, a little like a certain scene from The Matrix, but a good deal more disgusting. As soon as her shattered flesh and clothing reincorporate themselves, she sneers, "I have officially had enough of you. First, I'm going to go kill the Seeker. Then, I'll summon a horde of the darkest of the fallen angels to attend to YOU." She stomps off in a huff, and Forfexx calls out after her in mock indignation, "I thought you loved me!" before almost collapsing in a fit of hysterical laughter and melting into a crack between the walls, to continue their game whether she wants to or not...]

**PAUSE RP!**

Kaioto> <<Don�t buy the computer games!!! They suck! They are buggy as anything and very unbalanced.>> GameS plural? O_o The only one I knew about was the Magic: The Gathering Encyclopedia (a digital Pokedex, if you will, of M:tG). Cheaper and easier than buying every card in existence. Plus, I'd probably just enjoy the artwork instead of actually trying to play the thing (my poor little head is not wired for card games). ;) <<the one redeeming feature of Magic, social interaction among the geek populace. ^_^>> <shrug> I'm not fond of social interaction, not much outside here and the occasional e-mail at any rate. I'm surprisingly insular. ;P

Doug> <<Buffy was put on hold last night for a basketball game again. I'd like to know how WB can justify doing this sort of thing.>> Because they're stupid. Trust me, lad, this kind of thing used to happen to me (and probably a lot of us) ALL THE TIME, back when I watched Star Trek religously. In fact, this has happened to just about every show I watch religiously, including Gargoyles back when it was on Fox. <sigh> I think this is because there are enough people who are sufficiently stupid as to prefer watching a bunch of overpaid losers tossing around a ball to watching complex and interesting characters interact within the frame of a well-thought-out storyline to justify preempting the latter in favor of the former. A frightening thought, I might add. <<Forgot to say this earlier, but thanks much for the excellent ideas on how to take care of Christian right jerks. <grin>>> <bows and grins evilly> Thanks lad. :) I like to think I have an eye for this sort of thing. ;)

Warpmind> <<Say, has anyone here seen, heard or even had telepathic contact with Mara lately? Just seems it's long since she visited us...>> Come to think of it, she has been away a long time... $Norwegian spell> Eh? <retranslates back into English using Intertran, the engine he used in the first place> What the...?! O_o' <shakes head> Heh, guess I should have checked it with you. Would have, if I'd had that RP written ahead of time (I basically think up my RPs as I write them). ;) $

Fire Storm> <> YES! <high five> :D <<LM and I would appreciate it if everyone said the name of the color you are posting with so we can get the text color hex values>> Blue. :)

Aaron> <<Kirk was still a better captain then Picard!>> Ehh, I kind of prefer Picard--dignified, menacing in a way, and he's not in the habit of siring illegitimate children. ;) Kirk's still kewl though. ^_^

Gside> <<Pheonix Down!>> You also a Final Fantasy fan? :)

Silverstar> <> True; if you don't have the right connections, you could get caught, and authorities these days just aren't understanding about this kind of thing... <sigh>

Matthew> <<Here's something I'd love but will probably never get to see: A video file of the Timedancer opening. OK, I know there's no chance but It'd be great if some enterprising individual could cut together a real TV-type opening using scenes from the Gargoyles TV series.>> <sighs wistfully> Oh, how I wish I knew anything about 3D modelling, I could do that kind of thing and more; I've already envisioned five or six different trailers for my fic series that I could set to some MP3s I have, not to mention the potential for fan art...

Delwyn Adara> Kewl name. ^_^ Welcome to the CR. Surrender your sanity, and don't tease the gators. :D

DumlaoX> Welcome back! :D Not sure if/when you'll be able to start posting again, but it's always good to hear from you. ^_^

SJ> <<I'm thinking that perhaps he didn't have too many marital relations with Mrs. Freud, otherwise his philosophical slant would have been a bit different ;)>> Possibly. I heard his psychoanalytic eccentricities were because there were always long lines to the bathroom when he was a kid. :P

TDS3> YES! Hehe! <runs off to read new story!>

**TD SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!**

<sees first pic> Does this guy have a relative named Link? ;P <encounters second picture> Now THAT, I wasn't expecting...*very* interesting little story. And, somehow, I can't help thinking that what's happened here will be of vital importance later on...

**END SPOILERS AND RESUME RP!**

[In Los Angeles, a black Lamborghini stops near the Black Ravens, and Griffex and Mewthree, and a moment later, a fire-winged mutate lands next to it. The Ravens look down from their cockpit at its driver as Griffex speaks into a wrist communicator, "Sol! Glad to see you here. We need directions to the Nielsen Building." A voice responds, after a few moments, "I've got it. Follow me. You sure your Evangelion or whatever it is can fit under the traffic lights?" Mewthree responds with a grin, "Friend, it has almost as many tricks up its sleeve as your car." Another voice, that of the other mutate, replies, "This, I have to see..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, March 23, 2000 02:00:08 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

***Kyryn steps in***

Gentlebeings....

The Dance continues....

We now present Season 3 of Timedancer:

A Merrier Hour

Written by Todd Jensen, Robby Bevard, and Nicodemus

Illustrations by Robby Bevard

****Kyryn steps out***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:23:08 AM
IP: denm2-0.iglobal.net

***runs into the CR. She turns quickly and slams the door shut. Then she runs about the room, gathering furniture and begins to barricade the door. As she stands bent over with her paws on her knees, faint sounds of music come through the door. Suddenly her feet start to tap and her hips begin to bounce and gyrate. She puts her paws oveer her ears and screams in agony as she begins to dance uncontrollably about the CR*** ARRRRGGHHH!!! Someone make it stop!! PLEASE!! I'm in agony!! All day long I've had N'Sync "Bye,bye, bye" runing in my head!! Someone shoot me now!..PUUH-LEASE!!!

Hi everyone!! Well, it's finally here!! TD Season 3!! I don't know about anyone else in here, but I'm pretty excited about it myself. =p *ducks to avoid flying fruit and veggies*

Christine>> looking forward to seeing new stuff on CotSB soon!

Well, as I'm currently suffering from brain damage due to having N'Sync running through my head all day long, I'm just gonna call it quits for now. Take care all.

color=Rich Orange
Katara - [Katara_O@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:18:47 AM
IP: 98aa4b3b.ipt.aol.com

Ack, no time for a real post (writing a freakin' midterm paper).

SJ > <<"There She Goes": Who originally sang this song? >> I believe it was the Boo Radleys. :)
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 01:04:42 AM
IP: ctrts2-6.mrs.umn.edu

Rodlox: Erin Gobraless is my goof on the current Julia Roberts movie "Erin Brokovich". Erin Brokovich. Erin BRAkovich turns into Erin Gobraless.

I actually have two more words to describe that movie: "Chick Flick". And to sum up my reaction to the film in 2 words, it'd have to be "Never Going".
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:16:40 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**Mecord watches the time tick closer and closer to Timedancer**

How exciting! I can hardly contain my enthusiasm. :)

Delwyn>> Just in time for Timedancer! But if you still have an overwhelming desire to write about Gargoyles, feel free. I just posted my first story at the Gargoyle Fan Website. Many in here write garg fanfics. You should try Christine�s site sometime. Glad to meet you, hope you come down from the lurking station more often.

**Looks at clock impatiently**

Man, still have twenty minutes.

Okay, since I�m writhing in agony over my lack of patience, I�m going to do an RP.

****WARNING!!! RP HERE!****
Mecord looks longingly at the crossbow now across the room. He recognized the man who ran into him. It seems every time they meet, one of them is close to death. Right now Mecord, Bardic, Warfrost, and Archwolf were at something of a standoff with the supposed Dark Mage and Avatar security. Wilek noticed Archwolf�s momentary distraction on Kaioto�s entrance. Grabbing the Werewolf�s hand that had been about to rip out his throat, Wilek swept Archwolf�s feet with his tail and tossed him into Bardic.
Weaponless and surrounded, Mecord looked back to Kaioto, �Now may not be a good time to ask how to blow up the station.�
This caught Wilek�s attention, �What? Who�s going to blow up my station?�
�Your station?� Kaioto entered the room the rest of the way.
�Seeker? What are you doing here.�
�Trying to find a way to kill the Quencher.�
�Khesaat, see that their locked up for now.�
�Not that easy Dark One,� Mecord challenged.
�Dark One? Is that what this is about?�
A scream was heard out side the ship they were in.
Kaioto glanced back the way he had come, �Can this wait?�
****END OF RP, FOR NOW****

Woo hooo!!! Time for Timedancer!! :)

Mecord
Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:06:22 AM
IP: usr32.mtwest.net

um,....who's Erin Gobraless?
{or is that a mocking of an actress that i probably still haven't heard of?}.

Rodlox
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:50:24 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Aw, a great couple days here in Washington D.C. Nothing but rain! God I love the rain. I really do. Some people see the endless sheets of water coming down from the grey sky, but to me, that's beautiful.

Good News: Hey, Billy Shatner turns a sexy 69 years old today! Christ, one foot in the grave now. No offense, but before too long he'll probably be taking the Big Sleep.

Bad News: My favorite MTV comedian, Tom Green, recently admitted that he has testicular cancer. He's only 28 years old. Damn, that's depressing. On the optimistic side of the situation, he did go through successful surgery next week, and since he caught this early, he should be completely cured and alright before too long.
Women may not think that us men can not relate when it comes to breast cancer, but we can. It's becoming a rather disturbing trend nowadays that young men are getting testicular cancer. I can't think of a worse kind to have...guys go through life thinking that that particular area is what makes them special, and it winds up killing them. Fortunately, Tom will make it.

Wilek: As a student who has taken several Psychology courses, I can pretty much agree with you in saying that Freud was a freakin' pervert. EVERYTHING was sex with him.
Example: "I hate my father."
Freud: "Oh, that's because you secretly desire to mate with your mother, and he is your competition."
"Uh, no, you sick bastard, he's just an @$$hole."
Not happy? It's cause you're hung up on sex. Too neat and orderly? You're too "anal". I'm thinking that perhaps he didn't have too many marital relations with Mrs. Freud, otherwise his philosophical slant would have been a bit different ;)

"There She Goes": Who originally sang this song? I know Sixpence just did the cover. But who was the original artist? For some reason I'm thinking New Order, but I might be wrong.

Rodlox: I consider Catherine Zeta-Jones to be sumptuous. Rather I used. Ever since she became pregnant with Grandfather Douglas' kid, however, she has become dead to me. Words of warning, young ladies--it's NOT cool to date a man old enough to be your parent!!!

*****REVIEW FOR ROMEO MUST DIE*****
Got a chance to check out the latest Jet Li flick today! I'm a Jet Li fan, and have been looking forward to this film for quite some time. C'mon, you didn't expect me to go see Erin Gobraless did you?
First off, I'll discuss the plot. As with any martial arts film, it's not terribly complicated. Set in Oakland CA, the two major criminal organizations, the Chinese and the African-Americans (led by Delroy Lindo), are waging a "war". In actuality, it's a sort of non-aggression stalemate. All that changes when the son of the Chinese overlord is murdered, presumably by one of the Africans. Tensions flare, as each side becomes increasingly assured that the other wants a full blown conflict. Throw into the mix Delroy's desire to form a legitimate business. Jet Li enters as Han, a former Chinese cop sent to a Hong Kong prison due to the actions of his criminal father. He busts out when he hears of his brother's death, and comes to America to find the killer. He meets up with Aaliyah, who wants the war to stop as much as he does.
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie....I'm a big Jet Li fan, and although this film did not have near as much glorious violence as some of his other work (like Black Mask or the awesome Swordsman 2), I was satisfied. However, for the die hard Hong Kong Action Cinema junkie, this film may disappoint. It's perhaps a bit of Jet Li Light....still, for those of you who are not familiar with Jet's work, this is a good beginner movie. I enjoyed the action, as Li shows he's one of the absolute best, up there with the likes of Jackie Chan or Chow Yun-Fat...It's a crying shame that most American action movies can't effectively copy this style. The only movie that I've seen that clones the Hong Kong style masterfully is the Matrix. One complaint is that the fight scenes are often too short! However, a few segments, such as Li's football lesson, are absolutely priceless. Jackie Chan does not necessarily corner the market on kung fu comedy ;) However, the name to the film is somewhat misleading--Han does not really play Romeo to Aaliyah's Juliet. They're more like very, very good friends with a hint of romantic interest between them.
The acting was fairly good, I thought. Delroy Lindo is always talented, and Jet did a good job with his limited English vocabulary (I love the guy, but let's be honest--he does have to work hard to get a few lines across properly). I thought Aaliyah did a fine job, also. She's no Audrey Hepburn, but for an amateur, she's not too bad. The chemistry she shared between Jet was cute and enjoyable (of course, they couldn't really have the two of them get hot and heavy, what with Jet having a good 10 years on her). DMX.....DMX should not have been advertised as being in the movie. He's in there, true, but for only twice, and for maybe about 60 seconds total. However, this movie has one of my favorites--Russell Wong! This guy is terribly underrated, and has never received the success he should have. He's one slick SOB in this film, though.
Overall, I'd give this film between 3 to 3.5 stars outta four. I must preface this, though--I LOVE Hong Kong Action films. I love Asian culture...if I wasn't such a TWG (Tragic White Guy), I'd probably want to immerse myself in that culture....so I have a bias towards this film. No doubt, others in here may not like the film. It's a fun popcorn flick, if nothing else, but some of you may not enjoy it if you're not into this type of genre. If Erin Gobraless is your kind of film, Romeo Must Die is probably not for you. I loved it, though.
****END REVIEW****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:37:54 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

QUESTION while we await TIMEDANCER:

. why is it, if Pandora was the first gargoyle, that Brooklyn encountered gargoyles in Ancient Egypt?? {TD season 1}.

just a tiny thing i noticed.

Christine: i submitted a story to SableDrake.....i'm not a big judge of what is/not funny, but it got a chuckle out of me.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:24:17 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

I'm just going to study until Timedancer starts up. No doubt it'll be sad and I'll cry like a baby! Bring tissues...

Doug> That is so incredibly sweet of you! *hugs* As you can tell aside from Joe, I don't receive many compliments like that!

GB> It was competition that was stressful.
SOROW
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:21:17 PM
IP: dll2a020-0638.splitrock.net

Christine: do people consider Catherine Zeta-Jones to be sumptuous? {that's a word i always had trouble with}.
Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:08:19 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Cyborg > Sabledrake tries for a PG / PG-13 rating, no graphic sex or gory violence. If you'd like to send them, I'd be pleased to take a look!

Green Baron > for Sybil? I've been thinking on that ... Mae West isn't available ... have to be someone sumptuous and sultry. As for Lord Verdant, why, darlin', I'd make you do it! ; ) Speaking of Sybil, I'm told that I should be getting a new cheesecake pic of her soon along with some other CotSB-inspired pics!

News > CotSB is reviewed in the latest issue of TaleBones! I will be scanning and posting it shortly. _Great_ review. Harsh, but accurate, and a good laugh.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:05:16 PM
IP: 07-157.009.popsite.net

**walks into the room, sighing deeply** One more day ... then I get two days off ...

Jenna: **huggles** Happy anniversary to ya both.

Jannie: Heh ... you and Denis ... are probably gonna be *the* cutest couple there.

Fire Storm: Color = Dark Red. **pulls out hex code chart** Or, if you want the hex code, it's #990000.

Aaron: Bill Shatner's B-day, huh? Hmm ... two choices of celebrations, either a 79-hour Trek marathon or going to Priceline and seeing how much crap I can buy for $2.50. :)

Silverstar: We get our fair share of snow ... FS and LM can certainly tell ya about it too, they live in Dearborn. To tell the truth, our seasons are some of the most balanced ... we do genuinely get hot summers and cold winters. (by my estimate, we've gotten up to 100+ in the former and -40 and lower in the latter ... in the *same year.*)
Just make sure ya winterize yer car *reeeeeeeeeeeeeal* good before you decide to move here. Word of advice. :)

DumlaoX: Good to see you, man.

Delwyn: Welcome, pull up a chair.

And on that note ... **pulls up a chair of his own waiting for Timedancer to start**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 09:32:31 PM
IP: zzz-209252248181.splitrock.net

Grey. {offense unintentional for any Azgards who are reading this; azgard=roswell greys}.

i always wished i was part of the writing staff...but figured it was By Invitation Only, so that they got the cream of the crop in the garg fanfic writers who archive here. {i'd also like the words, please, emailed}.

DumlaoX: i deeply apologize for not sending my condolences, but i was incapable of expressing myself adequately {that, and i felt like simply saying "me too" to what everyone else did was somehow cheapening}.
. if it helps any, i've lost 3 relatives in the last 5 years.
hope you feel better.

here's my personal motto: "It's Always Morning Somewhere." {which i usually suffix to 'good morning' when people say 'it's afternoon.'}.

sorry if i bored you there.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:43:39 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Color = Grey (which is the coolest way to spell the word "gray" IMO)

Delwyn Adara> I'm not on the staff, but I can answer a couple of your questions. The Timedancer season is supposed to begin tomorrow (and there was great rejoicing). The other two series, Gargoyles and Pendragon, are still in production. Dark Ages just finished its season a short while ago. Once Timedancer starts, they have one episode each week. I'm not absolutly sure of the time, but I think they'll post new episodes around midnight eastern time on Thursday (more like late at night on Wednsday, since I used to stay up and wait for it to be posted). If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will be along to correct me.

As to how to get onto the staff, I don't know. Maybe one of them will share the deep, arcane secret. If I wasn't so busy right now, I'd like to join, too.
silverstar> The nice thing about the pieces of yourself you leave everywhere (or with everyone you love - that's my problem. I'm not too sentemental about places, but about people...) is that they eventually grow back. The people or places that kept parts of you are stronger for having a piece of you, and you're stronger for having the experiences you had. In the mean time it hurts though.

My, I'm philosophical this evening, aren't I? Probably because I'm putting off things I should be doing. I'm glad you're feeling better.

Totally random bit> Since the words to "There She Goes" weren't on the liric sheet of the Sixpence None The Richer CD, I listened to the song five times today at work and copied them down. (I have a really boring job) I'd be glad to share them if anybody is interested.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:33:38 PM
IP: dll2a020-1241.splitrock.net

First and foremost, thank you. All of you. No matter how many people wish me and the family the best, it is always good to hear that people care about you, even those you may never meet again. It's gonna be difficult to live without him at first but it has to be done and we'll manage. We did so before, we can certainly do it again.

Again, thank you all. Those that know how to get at me can get at me anytime :)

p.s.- I still watch this place. No one ever knew it, though.
DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:27:24 PM
IP: pool0030-max6.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Hello all!

*feeling kinda odd because she's straying from her usual lurker status.* My name is Delwyn Adara (well, not really but that's all you're gonna get. ;-) ) and I've managed to read all of the Gargoyles Saga as it is currently up on the webpage--in about two weeks. Now all this wouldn't make me stray from my lurker status, except for one tiny fact--most of the stories end as cliffhangers!! And if it's one thing that I cannot stand, it's a cliffhanger (mind you I'm perfectly fine in using it in MY writing). So this I ask, why hasn't the story archive been updated in a long time?
Back when my newsgroups still worked I thought I saw a message mentioning loss of a writing staff. If that's the case, I know plenty of people (myself included) who would be honored to take over the task. I also know someone who has been dying to draw some gargs ever since she laid eyes on the picture gallery, but that's a story for another time.
In any case, could someone please answer these burning questions before I am overwhelmed by the need to drop everything I'm doing in order to write Gargoyles fic?

Thank you. :-)
Delwyn Adara - [janie@stratos.net]
RB Central, Ohio, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 07:47:22 PM
IP: pm3-1-40.dial.stratos.net

Here's something I'd love but will probably never get to see: A video file of the Timedancer opening. OK, I know there's no chance but It'd be great if some enterprising individual could cut together a real TV-type opening using scenes from the Gargoyles TV series.

Ah well, I'll just have to see it in my mind when I listen to the Timedancer theme.
Matthew - [MattS1@aol.com]
New City, NY, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 07:26:20 PM
IP: 98a7102f.ipt.aol.com

Hello!
We haven't had any luck finding a new place yet but we don't have to move out until the 31 of April as opposed to the original move out date of the 21. That was my mom's doing.

Green Baron> Thanks for the offer but my parents might want somewhere closer to their work :) Also my parents work in the Air Force section, branch, whatever ya want to call it.

Doug> I'll be sure to look for your fanfic! Thanks for directing me:)

Coyote> You live in Michigan! Is it nice there? I know it snows but does it snow a lot? I love snow and miss it since we moved from Alaska to California!

Archwolf> I was born in Landstuhl(I think I spelled it right) but my parents worked at Ramstein. In Texas we lived in San Antonio.

David G.> Thanks for trying to cheer me up! Even though I move a lot whenever I leave a house a part of me stays with it. Considering all the times I've moved I should be gone! Bad Joke I know! But I tried! And at least I'm happy enough to make bad jokes, right?

Jenna> Thanks for the hugz! Also wanted to say congratulations!

Wilek> Actually I asked my mom the same thing but she said that I shouldn't go aroundkilling people even if they do deserve it! :)

Mecord> Thanks for wishing me good luck! We are going to need it.

Warpmind> Um, it's okay for thinking that I was a guy just don't do it again :) Glad to know that you think there should be more female gargs as well.

Well that about wraps it up for me. I still have homework and thn I am going to bed. I really wish this cold would just go away!

Bye!
silverstar
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 06:56:44 PM
IP: l4p09.dav.mother.com

Wilek> There's a group called the Boston Linux Users; one of the complaints frequently levelled against Linux is that it's a real pain to get it installed and running properly. That has improved greatly in the last six months, thanks to Red Hat and Caldera, but it's still more difficult than falling off a log. So they have Linux install-fests occasionally to help novice Linux users get it installed and iron out any bugs. I think it's a pretty cool idea. I have never played with Linux myself, but I follow it with great interest. Perhaps I will go out and buy a cheap used 486 specifically for playing with Linux. There's a store back home where you can get a decent 486-DX or even an early Pentium for a couple hundred bucks, and Linux is reputed to be capable of running on practically anything.

Woohoo! I got my own domain! You are now looking at the proud owner of atuan.com. There isn't actually anything there yet, and there won't be for a while, but hey, it's there. At the moment I'm busy programming a web-based POP3 client for use with Atuan, since my hosting package didn't come with web mail and I love it. For those of you who care, I'm using PHP, MySQL, and a dash of JavaScript for the program. It's so fun to spend 8 hours coding, even if staring at the screen that long makes my eyes melt and dribble down my cheeks!
Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 06:10:45 PM
IP: host212-140-8-6.btinternet.com

Color: Sun Orange.

Mecord: It's okay. However long things take. :)

Shadowrider: In my fanfics, the first onscreen Gargs/X-Men encounter occurrs in Masterpiece. They could have met a time or two before that which I have not yet written about but I'm not sure. Glad you're still enjoying the story. I like the Terminator a lot too. :)
Doug
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 06:07:41 PM
IP: pool-209-138-163-87.dlls.grid.net

Dark Pine Green. (aka Olive Drab)

Mecord> <<feather of a phoenix>>: Pheonix Down!

Wilek> Admiral Grace Hopper (Yeah, so I misspelled it): Straight form the Jagon File (http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/): "Historical note: Admiral Grace Hopper (an early computing pioneer better known for inventing COBOL) liked to tell a story in
which a technician solved a glitch in the Harvard Mark II machine by pulling an actual insect out from between the contacts of
one of its relays, and she subsequently promulgated bug in its hackish sense as a joke about the incident (though, as she was
careful to admit, she was not there when it happened). For many years the logbook associated with the incident and the actual
bug in question (a moth) sat in a display case at the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC). The entire story, with a picture of
the logbook and the moth taped into it, is recorded in the "Annals of the History of Computing", Vol. 3, No. 3 (July 1981), pp.
285-286.

The text of the log entry (from September 9, 1947), reads "1545 Relay #70 Panel F (moth) in relay. First actual case of bug
being found". This wording establishes that the term was already in use at the time in its current specific sense -- and Hopper
herself reports that the term `bug' was regularly applied to problems in radar electronics during WWII.
"

Toku Kai> <<the lucky charms � I remember the simple joy of playing such random stuff>>: Another typo of mine; someone does not like me. Yeah, I personally got in late to MtG, and not very deep. My fovorite deck so far has been my RW First Strike deck.

Bengali> <<all Sevarius did was change their looks>>: I don't think so. It takes some doing to generate an enormous potential difference across a body. And of course, I think he was also improving strength and reflexes.

I really should have changed the mp3 last night, but now it is time, plus remus likes me again, so back we go. Last week you were asked to Imagine a better world; well, I'm a believer. The new mp3 is I'm a Believer by the Monkees.
Gunjack> Did you disappear again?

Doug> <<sorry, no harems in this particular story>>: Sigh, oh well. I wasn't really expecting any. It just seemed like an amusing thing to say.

Warpmind> <<Spend some private time with each separately>>: How can I spend time with a typing error? And anyway, since we are defining the first one, I'm sure we can determine how it's spelled.
<<few females = shallow gene pool>>: The same thing goes for few males, but each generation can be bigger that otherwise due to comparative restrictions of reproductive organs.

Fire Storm> <>: Congratulations. As a certified data hoarder, I can understand the threat of data loss.
<<LM and I would appreciate it if everyone said the name of the color you are posting with so we can get the text color hex values>>: I think you are going to like me for the next few days.

Mecord> <<What I don�t know, is if a second generation daughter were to marry a human, would their child be human?>>: By your rules, 3/4 yes. A child of any gender in the second generation would have half its DNA with mutate information, and the rules of inheritance would continue on from there.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 04:53:12 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

RP WARNING!!!
**South Central Los Angeles
Reverend Attila and the scouts are ducking the cross fire until the Bloods leader recognizes them.
"It's that cat Maxine Waters was talking about. She'll give us 10 million for him and a million for each of those girls."
"Shoot!! You know Maxine Waters?" asks the Crips Leader.
"Yeah! She's on the Board of Directors for our gang and propses new bills to protect gangs from prosecution."
"Get outta here, man!! She's on our gang's Board too."
"Well, in that case we can team up and split the green between us. 15 million can go a long way."
The Scouts look at Attila nervously. "What shoudl we do?" asks Angelica nervously.
Attila looks at them, "well, my bounty is much higher than that and Representative Waters is using them cheap to bring us in. We could bribe them with 20 or we can eliminate them."
"Plan B sounds better," said Bernadette with a grin,"it will clean up the streets."

The combined gangs combining to about 50 thugs surrounded the five girls and ten year old cat. As the girls readied their rosaries and Attila got his assault rifle ready, a Fire Elemental appeared and consumed half the Bloods and all of the crips. The 12 remaining gang members decided to run, but they were all cut down by Attila's firepower, while the scouts extinguished the Elemental with their holy water super soakers.

"Well that was quick. I guess we need to find the Ravens. It looks like Los Angeles has more trouble than usual."**
PAUSE RP!!

Shadowrider> I always under the impression it was as big as St. Patrick's Day for Italy. I didn't knwo about artisans, but I figured it woudl be major for carpenters, too.

Silverstar> <<BTW, I just want to inform you that he is one of my guy friends that is a 'suspected gay'. (I think that is why he gossips so much)>> It's his way of displacing a personal fear of his, I imagine.

At your age, I hope you're not planning on a family any time soon. Originally I was planning to wait until I was 35, but I begin to realize how arbitrary a numbers game woudl be, and I think I will pretty much get amrried when the time is right, bit it would still be a few years away and after I'm 25 just because of my beleif in long engagements and courtships. I would also like to have my MBA beforehand.

SJ> <<Burn it until it's black! >> Blehhhhh!!!! I'd go vegetarian if all my meat was cooked that way. I don't like fish either, except I do like sushi and I like some seafood, though mainly fried oysters and fried shrimp. Now, one good thing about New Orleans is the food. If you want to die happy from good eating, then New Orleans is the place for you :)

Christine> Who would you have as a voice for Sybil or Lord Verdant for that matter :)

Kiatinia> You were in Unions? Was it a job requirement? I thought Texas was a Right to Work state. I agree Unions served a definite purpose last century, but now they have moved from protecting labourers to most of tehir membership form Government workers, and now the Secret Service and AMA want to Unionize (like doctors making over a quarter of a million dollars need a Union), plus they use dues to fund political campiagns without the consent of their members.

SOROW> <<Thank you very much. It was a lot of stress>> You're welcome but I don't know what I said ::hugs::

Kaioto> I liked the gun article, but Cathy Young was not a Libertarian. Actually, Salon's David Horowitz is excellent and probably my favorite columnist there. Of course, Jewish World Review has excellent columnists, though you cna find links to them on the Drudge Report as well.

More political humor> Click on my name to learn about Al Gore's regretful promise

Warpmind> <<but we obviously need some means of control...>>
Even NRA President Charleton Heston belives in teh need for some (and I emphaisze soem meaning a very small amount) control. I recall Switzerland has a good model for gun laws and I heard Finland was a good model, too. England and Australia must be liberated from the tyranny of the Gun Control neo-Nazis.

Mutate Breeding> I knwo little nor care too much about Biology, so I'll leave it to Greg.

Niamhgold> Good thing my Homestead doesn't give me trouble and I have a good sized balance.

Skippy> Clinton-class? That's pretty sleazy.

SOROW> Is Loyola one of your choices? :)

Doug> I finished Elysium. Feedback is pending

Coyote> <<In this particular situation ... folks are gonna stone me for this one, but if any pop singer portrays Aldonza, it'll be Britney Spears.)>>
Louisina made, Louisiana proud :)

Anne> That must be a sad time to remember the death of a brother. My mother miscarried about twenty years ago, though I don't know the anniversary or anything like that off hand.

Silverstar> I hope your family ahs good luck finding a new place. If they have 300 grand, my mother has a house ready for sale in a few months down in New Orleans :), but I bet you want a cheaper place.

Update on life> I will be spending my last semester on campus and when my tenant moves out in June, I'll eb atying in the apartment until Fall semester starts or my motehr sells the House, whichever comes first.

Archwolf & Silverstar> Which branch are your parnets in?

Jewel> Perhaps I should greet you in my French accent, when I do meet you, oui? :)

I know soem geat sushi buffet places down in New Orleans ::hint, hint::

Doug> Bush will need McCain's support and McCain will definitely put his resource to use. He's smart :)

RP WARNING!!!
**Oval Office
Socks is now at a table dictating to the remaining Clinton cronies who support his plans: Al Gore, Buddy, Bill Richardson, Lawrence Summers, Donna Shalala, and Hollwood friend Mike Douglas.

"That damned cat now has eliminated Ted Kennedy. Not only him, but we have lost Bill and Hillary to his scouts. The Janet Reno beast was eliminated by OJ Simpson, but we cannot stop him. Albright, Herman, Daley, and Cohen won't join our Cabal, so we need some newer members. We also need a running mate for you, Al. And no you can't pick the Unabomber. But who should we get for you?"**
TO BE CONTINUED!!!!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 04:27:22 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Oops. My color is the default (Orange?)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 03:41:16 PM
IP: ppp-42.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Today is Bill Shatner's birthday! Celebrate however you see fit! Kirk was still a better captain then Picard!

Strangely, it's also the birthday of Bob Costas, NBC sportscaster. If you'd told me he was 48, I'd have called you a liar.

Jenna> Happy aniversary. :)

Jenna, Robbie, Stephen> Do y'all mind if we add one more to our merry little band? Mandolin asked if anybody had room left, and I think we can take one more without serious overcrowding. What do you say?

Gotta go browse the CR archives now.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 03:29:58 PM
IP: ppp-42.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

**Mecord wakes up, his pillow vanishing**

Fire Storm>> Pale Green is my color of choice.

Doug>> Thanks ** for reading my story. I don�t remember if I mentioned this to Kit, but school is getting intense right now and the only writing I�ll have time for until the semester�s over, will be the RP�s in here $which is currently very exciting$.
Even then, Part 2 is complicated and may take a while to finish properly.

Mutate reproduction: As mentioned, Savarius may not have been able to tamper with Maggie�s ovum. My theory is he didn�t have to. Mutates are mainly human with added or altered genetic structure. If the mutated portion of the DNA were to come solely from the male, the end product would be the same. This way, if Claw or Fang were to get married and have kids, their children would be full blown Mutates as well. What I don�t know, is if a second generation daughter were to marry a human, would their child be human? Maybe, but maybe not, since gender is determined by the genetic info from the male. Some promising ideas here for fanfics.

**Mecord leaves to study for a multitude of quizes**

Mecord
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 03:01:52 PM
IP: usr46.mtwest.net

Just a quick one:

Doug:> Thank you for characters' explanation. Now some things in your story are more clear. Where can I find the first encounter between Gargoyles and X-Men? BTW, I've read a little more of your story. I liked the quoting from "The Terminator", one of my preferred movies."Elysium" is getting more and more interesting as I go on. You know, I'm quite concerned about the drug's problem...I used to have a friend some years ago...we were almost brothers...now he's no more, he's gone it's three years now...and drug was the cause...oh, well, stop it, I don't wanna be sad, not tonight.
<> I was kidding too! ;)
<<hope you don't mind.>> Of course I don't mind you using my comments! Instead, I'm glad to be of help anyhow.:)

Less than twelve hours and Timedancer III will begin! The long wait is ending, finally!

A pi� tardi, gente!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 02:59:38 PM
IP: h255-22-51.mi2.albacom.net

*Cyborg limps in on her way to her 3000 mile check- up*

Mutate Reproduction: (to try to paraphrase the hoplessly inept Bard from memory)
To breed, or not to breed
That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind
To suffer unto our children
Our DNA's misfourtune
Or to be barren, to not have kids.
Aye, there's the clinch
For in that barren life- is there no joy to come?
Some Talon or Magie may decide not to have children in order to spare them the pain of their 'curse'. Then again, they may be able to create a place in the world for themselves and any children- human or not. That might be a nice goal for them.
I think I will think a bit more about this- and post a more inteligent response later.

Sabledrake: What is it's rating? I have a couple of short- shorts that are dark humour- in that they explore laughs, but they are kind of extreme.

colour: grey
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 02:29:50 PM
IP: ssdmc.dawsoncollege.qc.ca

Hey everyone!

I COMPLETELY recovered my hard drive! Yeah!

That includes all of the TGS CR's (minus a week or two)!

So the Archive is updated and ready! (Click my link for the archive)

(Also Lady Mystic redid the images page. Same great images, brand new display))

Questions/comments/concerns about those pages are welcomed and encouraged.

Real post later.

Color = white
(Oh yeah... since it dosn't seem like Gorebash will be un-busy soon, LM and I would appreciate it if everyone said the name of the color you are posting with so we can get the text color hex values.)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 01:14:00 PM
IP: t1-22.visitus.net

*Warpmind enters, followed by his ever-faithful(?) chibis.*
Say, has anyone here seen, heard or even had telepathic contact with Mara lately? Just seems it's long since she visited us... could it be that she has gone sane? ;) Naah...

Kitania: Oh, so *that* was what the nobility comment was... hmmm... I've been stuck with a rather nasty cold lately, so I haven't been completely aware of what I've typed, it seems. A momentary lapse, I assure you. ;) Just kidding. :)

Gside: Spend some private time with each separately. You'll know the difference soon enough. ;)

Silverstar: This would be where I blush and say "oops?", then, I presume? And as for being both female and priest, well, I still recommend ULC. Click my name to go to their website. As they say, Catholicism takes you as long as you have a navel. ULC doesn't even make that demand. (Believe you me, Green Baron ordained his cat. I have an RL friend who ordained his pet chameleon.)

Doug/Silverstar: Yes, these clans with almost only males are slightly annoying. I wanna see more chicks, dang it! ;) No, really. There's logic in increasing the quota as well: few females = shallow gene pool = high inbreeding factor = potentially high infant death/malign mutation rate... I gues it's settled then. More female gargoyles! :)

Archwolf: I appreciate the explanation. So, basically, the Epee has no special effects, aside from giving a small signal to indicate a hit? What a wuss weapon... ;) I'd rather keep practicing with my sai, then... (And I suppose you might rather work on those Kailindo moves, too?)

David G: To breed or not to breed? What kind of a stupid question is that? ;) Actually, I'm with you. The mutate fertility question is really nothing but plotline fodder.

Jewel: Ack! Next time, try saying "Sure, stud, but my sex change operation has been postponed a little..." and THEN see how long he stays within your vicinity. ;)

Christine: The Humor issue: Do you have a contribution of mine that could be applied there? Otherwise, I could probably whip up something in a jiffy. :)

Wilek: Nice spell DM Wilek cast... but may I make a small recommendation? NEXT time you use a spell in Norwegian, maybe ask me for translation instead? You have my e-mail adress, and I think I could translate that spell from English to Norwegian far better than the engine you used could. What it came out as is nothing but gibberish. But, at least you managed to avoid typos. ;)

Doug: I guess I ought to pull you down from that pedestal of yours a bit. ;) You didn't pull me back into the RP. I was involuntarily kept away from it by RL interference, mainly the RPG system I've been working on. However, the Beta is finished, and I have again a lot of free time on my hands.

**RP**
Warpmind finally gets to his feet, and, looking at the dart gun in his hand, decides to use something with a little more power to soften the Quencher first.
"Let me see... Earthen Fey are allergic to silver, Heavenly Angels are affected by lead... what is it again that Demons can't... ah, silly me. Silver, of course."
Stuffing the dart gun into a small holster, Warpmind draws a 12-gauge shotgun and a box of shells.
"Ahh, yes. Silver-loaded shells... the Quencher has a nasty surprise in stock, I'd gather. Now, I'll... huh?"
A small jewel begins to glow on a ring on Warpmind's left ring finger.
"What... the engagement ring... it's only supposed to glow when the two rings... THAT WENCH!"
Slamming a few shells into the shotgun, Warpmind clutches it, knuckles white with rage and opens the door.
"Right, Quencher. You killed my fianc�e at the bridal shower, but you chose the wrong prey..."
Cocking the shotgun, he sneers.
"Vengeance will be mine. Balance, schmalance, you have taken the last life."
Warpmind looks down on the ring again, and starts following its glow.
**RP END**
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 12:05:07 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Wilek Nereus> Now that you mention it, if I ever have time to work on Freelance (my fanfic series) again, I was going to have one of my bad guys team up with Sevarius. My character is a cybernetics expert who will first emerge in the series as a Cyberbiotics employee who finds and repairs Coldsteel after the Duo work him over once.

I haven't thought out the full details, but I can just imagine the fun if the two of them were to capture the Matrix out in Australia...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 09:03:42 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

**RP HERE**

On the Avatar of Ganon, an airlock door continues to shake as the Quencher hacks at it from the other side. Finally it comes crashing down and she storms out, bloody mace in hand. "Seeker! You will not escape me! You may not be my primary target, but you will not escape me! Where are you?" "I can't answer that question," a voice from the floor answers. "But I can tell you you're going to stay right here, until you go back to hell." A mocking laugh follows the voice and then Forfexx comes bubbling out of the floor with claws extended. "Trim your hair?" he asks, flicking them back and forth in the Quencher's face. "Out of my way, fayling," she snaps in reply, knocking him down with her mace. Forfexx leaps back up as she walks past him and yells, "Hey, that wasn't very nice! Treat other people..." He then jumps the Quencher from behind and starts punching her. Soon she is growling and returning the blows, and a huge bloody fight ensues (thanks to Wilek for starting this, hope you don't mind the minor contribution, I'll let you continue things from now on since you know Forfexx better than me :).

Elsewhere, on the Earth below the station, the Onslaught has hacked off both arms of the earth elemental attacking it with its sword, only to have the creature start growing no ones and not even seeming to feel the wounds. Elena is circling it and throwing spell-bolts but they only seem to tickle the creature because it's so big. "Fulminous Benitae!" Lathrop shouts just then, and disintegrates the elemental's head with a lightning bolt. Instantly the ground starts shaking but then the elemental begins regrowing his lost body part. "I'd forgotten they can do that," Lathrop slaps his forehead as the others gasp. "Hope it can't do that again," Jammer growls, making the Onslaught raise its sword and hack the elemental in two. "You shouldn't have done that," Lathrop frowns. "Why not?" Tricia asks before Jammer can. "Yeah, why not?" Tom seconds. "The thing went down, isn't it dead?" "It could get back up again," Shap says. "Or it could split into two elementals," Lathrop replies, "which would be even worse." "Ho boy," Doug and Jammer simultaneously whistle. "It won't be doing either of those things," Grifix breaks the moment. "Why not?" Kit frowns and asks. The griffon mutate points out the truck's window to show the others that Mewthree is floating beside Elena and both are melting the earth elemental's body parts into dust with psi-magic beams. "Should doing that kill it?" Gubio asks Lathrop, who nods. "I think so. But we better step on what's left of the elemental a few times ourselves, just to be sure." Jammer smiles, recalling all the damage its fists did to the Onslaught. "I'll do that with gusto." "Wait!" Stephanie shouts as he is about to begin, pointing out the window at something huge and glowing that is moving towards them. "Is that what I think it is?" "Has to be," Keith whistles. "I'll have to remember what this thing looks like for the next time I spring a fire elemental on you guys in our D&D games." "Screw memorizing it," Boris says as he trains a cannon on the great glowing blob. "Let's just kill the thing." "Right," Kit agrees, looking at Orion. "Uh, wait a minute, can we kill it?" "It will be difficult," Lathrop says. "But yes. We'll need water, a lot of water. Unless you can use a holy word to dismiss it, Orion." "Get me close enough," the cleric says. "I'll have to try." "Don't try, do it," Shauna tells him. Erin and the others all nod in agreement as the screen's image fades.

**RP ON HOLD FOR NOW, WILL BE PICKED UP AT POST'S END**

<sighs> Buffy was put on hold last night for a basketball game again. I'd like to know how WB can justify doing this sort of thing. Sports games are NOT more entertaining than shows like Buffy and Angel. <sighs again> Oh well, at least the eps were ones worth waiting for (Hush and Somnambulist). I wish they were new ones, but I'll take good repeats if that's what's provided instead. :( Not much else to report on today RL-wise, school has completely reasserted itself in my life and once again I can't wait for my next vacation. :( Other than that, nothing really is going on for me. Besides some unfortunate computer trouble. <insert appropriately gruesome DC death>

Fanfic Stuff: And of course, I am writing once again. :) Have begun Night of the Symbiotes, my biggest story project to date. A story you've all been waiting for. Part 1 will have a lot happening in it of course, the Rose is gonna be back in the spotlight along with the clan (Ari, Broadway, and Angela especially), Matt, Nikki, and Salton & Muscles. Venom and Carnage will also be around, and I'm bringing back Spiderman and Black Cat too. Plus I get to write a bachelor party and a wedding. Fun fun. :) And of course when it's all over, New York is gonna get conquered by a despot that'll make Boss Tweed look like the Great Emancipator if he gets the chance. <grin> Here's a little tease-

**WARNING- DOUG'S FANFIC SPOILERS**

Her eyes opened, and Moro's image was gone. What the-, was Ari's first thought. Then she heard the laughter. A bitter high-pitched maniacal cackling, with no reason behind it. Turning to face the one making it, she saw nothing. Nothing but red paste the color of blood, a red darker even than her own skin. Completely surrounding her, mixed in with similar paste that was various shades of yellow, brown, black, green, purple, and very dark blue. Faces suddenly appeared out of the paste, faces with huge compound eyes and grinning mouths full of sharp teeth, the red one emitting the laughter. The others were grinning, except for the blue one, which wore a forced smile full of anger and pain.
"What is going on?" Ari asked the faces as they all began sneering and jeering at her, even the blue one, joining in with the crowd. "Who are you? This is my dream! Get the hell out of my dream!" The faces did not reply, instead continuing to tease and laugh at her. Human faces suddenly appeared, lurking behind the alien faces and sharing their expressions. Ari thought she recognized one or two.
"Get out!" she screamed at them, not bothering to ponder the faces' identities. "Get out of my mind! Leave me!" The faces only continued to laugh.
"You're a wussy," the black one whispered. "Not fit for command. Not a soldier. You're gonna die!"
"No!" Ari yelled at it. "No! No! NO!" Drawing her staff from nowhere, she struck at the faces and roared, striking every one of them repeatedly, even the blue one, which seemed to cry out something before it disappeared. The others only laughed.
Then they were all gone, and Ari's vision was overwhelmed by a stream of whirling colors. What now?, she wondered. Am I going back to Moro, to Japan. There was a loud pop, and before her she suddenly saw a large factory complex of some sort, its smokestacks exhaling a huge cloud of gaseous waste. As Ari watched, wondering what was going on, a face appeared in the smoke. A red face surrounded by fire, its owner laughing in triumph as he waved a flaming hand. The factory's doors opened and hundreds of strange machines marched out- some that looked like humans, others like tanks, others like giant spiders and scorpions. All of them were heading in the same direction, Ari realized, marching towards Manhattan Island with guns at the ready, thousands of loaded guns. "No!" she gasped, looking at the fiery figure directing them. "Who are you? What are you doing? What is this? Tell me! Now!" The face surrounded by flames turned to her and smiled, just as she felt something coming over her. The coldness of a night breeze, the absence of sunlight, her skin cracking as she awakened with the night.
Instead of roaring, Ari screamed, her mind still full of the awful vision. The force of the scream was so distracting it nearly swept her off the battlement of the Eyrie Building, pieces of stone skin falling around her as a hand reached out from behind and caught her by the tail.
"Don't fall," Zack ordered Ari as he pulled her back up, looking around at the shocked stares of the other just-awakened gargoyles as well as Rachel, Xanatos, Fox, Alex, Owen, Elisa, and Matt. "Please don't fall, okay? I don't want you to die, that would really ruin this night for everyone." The others around her all nodded in agreement, their faces all asking her what was wrong. The only way in which Ari could answer them was with a gasp, the flickers of shock still flashing in her mind along with the memories of the dream.

**END SPOILERS (till the story anyway)**

Christine: Just got your e-mail, thanks for the okay on the characters. Hope to soon have the story out. :) Now on to replies.

SOROW: Yes, very. :) Funny, isn't it, when great minds dream alike? Especially when both inspire the person's creativity. :) You're welcome on the congrats. <We both have big noses> Hope your dad installs the scanner soon so I can get a look at what I am sure is still a very pretty face.

Wilek: Forgot to say this earlier, but thanks much for the excellent ideas on how to take care of Christian right jerks. <grin> Also, I was glad to get you back into the RP, you don't need to thank me. Congrats on the triumphant return, hope you can keep it up. :)

Warpmind, Jenna: Thanks for the condolences on the star issue. I've noticed my fic's gone back up to four now, more people must be liking it. Wish more of them were doing that enough to send feedback, but I guess I'll just try to ignore it for now. I'm sure a great load of emails is on the way. :) Oh, and Warpmind, glad I got you back into the RP too. :) Sorry about the slight anger behind my speech that did so, I do understand the problems in people's lives.

Kaioto: Nice Rock bit, I too think I could vote for him for President, provided he could bring that attitude into actual politics as well as debate. And of course if he won the election, there are quite a number of politicians whose faces I'd pay to see. And then laugh at once I did. <grin> Then, like Firestorm said, I'll start hoping the Rock is smart and capable enough to do his new job well. $ Also glad to see you back in the RP, even if only briefly. :) $

SJ: Same for you, and I agree about Martin Lawrence. The man can not do action, and even comedy he's not that good at. <sighs>

Atzel: Welcome! And I agree with you about Asrial, she does rule. Only one character I can think of from Dark Ages rules more in my opinion. (Three guesses who.)

Shadowrider: No problem with the latin-lover stuff from before, just so you know. I was just kidding with you about it. :) Hope you keep enjoying my fic. Good (and intelligible) comments about Sata, I agree with them. Probably will be using them to help sketch out and develop her character in later fics, hope you don't mind. :)

Talon and Maggie's Offspring: I too can definitely see a possibility of it happening, given all the reasons people have already stated (David G's stuff especially). I know they're gonna have at least one child in my fanfics, but they'll have to stop there because it's going to be one hell of a birth. (Especially with Alistair Smythe, the Lizard, and the Rat King getting involved in a war with the Labyrinth just after it. Wait for "Family Ties." :) Not fully sure what their daughter will look like yet, but she will be furry and born with vestigial wings (Sevarius could make the mutates fertile, but even he's not good enough to make the offspring of so many scrambled genomes come out one hundred percent pure). Then in 2038, their child will still be alive, best friends with a half-dragon and secret lover to the (we think) last survivor of a race all human- and gargoyle-kind has good reason to despise.

Jenna: I'd be honored if you read my fanfics, even more if you sent feedback. But of course, it's your choice whether to do it or not. :) <Why am I floating- it was my husband's and mine first wedding anniversary this weekend- my feet still haven't touched the ground *sigh*> <grins> That's love. Congratulations on finishing out your first year of it, I hope many more are still ahead.

Skippy: You got to meet Tim Zahn? Excellent! Thanks for sharing the experience, I hope to share it one day. I too have not read much of the man's work other than his SW stuff, but have still often been inspired by it. :) Thanks for the great Bob Larson news too.

DumlaoX: Sorry about your dad. Don't know if you're gonna read this, but I too send you my sympathies. Don't know what else to say that someone else hasn't already, I second all their words though. Hope that somehow you can learn about all this, and thanks to Spike for letting us know of the event that brought it on. It's good to get news of an absent and very often missed friend, even when it's bad.

Katara: Well, like Kit said, you're welcome. Glad you're still currently feeling alrigh, and the news is good. But as long as there's a possibility of trouble, you'll still be in our prayers. :)

Cherry Blossom: Glad you're doing better too. Hope you can soon feel well enough to tell us what went on.

Green Baron: I agree with you about Bush, and hope he'll extend a hand to McCain's supporters too. I'd gain a little more respect for our governor if they accept it. <grin>

Mecord: I too have read over your fanfic. I found it a piece of very promising work. I'm glad for the new worthy contemporary in my field. :) Good job on imagery, dialogue, development, and plot. I especially liked the bits on Avalon and the cliffhanger at the end (which I hope to see resolved satisfactorily and in a well-written manner next story :). Hope you keep up the good work in your future stories, whenever they come out.

Coyote: I agree, your shop definitely should hire someone else. Or at least provide better wages. It's only the right thing to do, after all, even if you and everyone else wasn't having so many problems. :( Good luck getting things improved soon, friend.

Gside: Uh, sorry, no harems in this particular story. The gargs in question are devout Muslims with a lot of traditional Arabian values but they're still gargs. They respect each other too much to ever do anything like a harem, especially since all the females who don't have mates now once did (Russians did a number on the clan back in '84) and they very much follow the one mate for life bit. Two of them (Hassan and Sarita) are gonna be having a small problem with that. <grin> Only other things I'll reveal about the Arabian clan now is that the Taliban is one of their worst enemies, and Thailog and Jadriel will be among their best friends. <lets the implications of that hang in the air>

Bengali: Looking forward to it. Thanks!

I guess that's all for now, I'll be going. See you all again later, have a good day everyone. :) Bye.

**RP RESUMES**

The fire elemental rages toward the Onslaught, stopping only as Elena throws up a magical ice wall in front of it and it is forced to start melting it. "Excellent tactic," Erin comments, seeing the the elemental is being somewhat weakened by the ice even as it smashes its way through. Mewthree, Elena, Lathrop, and the Onslaught are all waiting for it on the other side, and they quickly bombard the creature with spells and heavy weaponry. It shakes with the damage but still comes on, burning up the last pieces of the earth elemental as it passes over them. "Orion, what are you waiting for?" Kit asks as the elemental gets close enough for them to feel the waves of heat coming off it. "Dismiss that thing!" "Calm down, honey," Doug tells her. "I'm sure he needs total concentration to do that." He then grimaces as he fires the Onslaught's water cannon into the fire elemental's smoking skin. "Begone!" Orion shouts as the creature reels again, and it disappears in a flash of light. Instantly the ground around LA stops shaking for good, and all the fires around the city started by the elemental flicker and go out to the cheers of those who were trying to extinguish them. The Ravens can only gasp in triumph, glad the battle has for now ended. "That takes care of all the elementals," Gubio smiles. "Right?" Lathrop nods after doing a quick divination. "I can't sense any more of them." "Good," Doug nods. "Okay, guys, I'm sorry, but no time to rest. We can't forget why we came here even though we've stopped this little spree of disasters." "Right," Stephanie agrees. "We have to find Asil." "I hope you can point us to the building she's attacking," Kit tells Grifix. The griffon mutate frowns, then smiles as he spots a black limo heading towards them. He points a finger at it and the Ravens all look at the car with slight confusion. Grifix meanwhile continues smiling. "I reckon my master can show us the way."

Meanwhile, in Thailog's secret base, Kharsus falls over groaning and sweating, the strain of controlling his elementals now coming out since they've been defeated. "Hmmph," Dahak chuckles upon seeing his pain. "Human amateur." "What happened?" Thailog asks them. "Why is he like that?" "Our elementals have all been beaten," Dahak replies. "He was using his energy to power them. Thus for a while he is going to be feeling a little faint." "I see," Thailog frowns. "Well, I hope we bought Asil enough time to be successful in her mission." "Let's turn on the TV," suggests Professor Donna Gardner. "Maybe we can find out."

**WE WILL ALL FIND OUT WHETHER ASIL WAS SUCCESSFUL NEXT TIME, END THIS BIT OF RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:37:54 AM
IP: pool-207-205-151-92.dlls.grid.net

44 more school days left! *happy feet dance*
135 more days until G2K begins! *happier feet dance*
131 more days until I see Denis! *happiest feet dance*

whew, I'm tired from all of this dancing....

Non-solicitated public announcement:
If you are considering attending the G2K you need to make your hotel reservation! You can always cancel if you find out you can't attend - but rooms are booking quickly!! If you use a credit card - it will NOT be charged unless you request that when checking in. Book a room ASAP, wandering the halls all night is not a good thing ;)

Cherry Blossom> *chuckles* Thanks for giving me the honor (pleasure) of giving Denis his birthday spanking ;) BTW, I saw you in Mini yesterday.... hang around next time and I'll chat with you ;D (after 3:30'ish)

gotta' run... more little minds to corrupt and so little time left. ;)

Jannie
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:37:17 AM
IP: 216-90-185-162.hou.port.mytelco.com

DumlaoX>*hugs* I'm very sorry to hear of what happened, you have my sincere condolences.

Gargoyles getting drunk>I could definately see Brooklyn getting drunk, but most certainly pre-Timedancer, Hudson-probably, Angela-nope, Goliath-definately nope, Lex-nah..., Broadway-possibly..., Thailog-no, Demona-yes and often... heres an idea I had for a scene of Demona getting drunk...

Demona sits in a chair at a small table in her mansion, a few half-filled bottles of scotch are on the table and a wine glass is half full in her hand. She has been drinking for a half hour or so, she takes another sip from the cup as she mutters to herself "gotta kill the humans, kill, kill all the humans" she takes another drink "the humans, must kill all the humans, must get my vengeance" she says drunkenly as she refills the wine glass "Its all the humans fault, not mine, none of it is my fault..." she continues to mutter to herself as she takes one drink after another, constantly refilling the cup. An hour or so later the bottles of scotch are empty and Demona is barely concious, she tries to pour another glass but the since the bottles are empty nothing comes out, she looks at it drunkenly, and tosses it angrilly at the wall, it shatters. She looks at the mess and says to herself "I need another drink" and walks out of the room to get some more bottles of scotch...

Mutates being able to have children>I think that they could probably have children, I dont see why they couldnt, after all, all Sevarius did was change their looks, I dont think that he was trying to change anything else of theirs.

Wierd Gargoyles Dreams>I've had quite a few of these..., I'll go into detail next time I post.

Arvid>Welcome!.

Doug>I'll read your story and give you a review of it once I finish this post.

I'll finish this tomorrow...
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 03:08:06 AM
IP: spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com

**RP HERE**
Dashing along the corridor at top speed, the Seeker of Truth drags his katana blade out behind him, regretting having to leave his sheath and the rest of his toys with his trench coat. Turning a corner past a drone, he glances over his shoulder to make sure this maneuver doesn�t eviscerate the crewmember. The drone didn�t even blink, just paused until the Kaioto�s blade was out of reach, then continued on its way.

Then, it is Kaioto�s turn to stop as he crashes loudly into an elf. A crossbow clatters loudly to the floor and a katana goes skittering. Rubbing his head sorely, the Seeker kick-stands himself onto his feet and glances at the security staff and then the person he just bowled over.

�Gah!� the Seeker grasps his holy symbol in start, then narrowed his eyes, �Aren�t you supposed to be dead?� he scrutinizes the elf he saw dying with a gaping chest wound a few minutes ago. Taking a wary stance he takes a few steps back and picks up his sword.

Shrugging, he rests the blunt curve of his katana on his shoulder and sighs. �Whatever. Anyway, something big, angry, and homicidal should be coming this way any minute.� He regards the security team with calm seriousness, �Who do I talk to about blowing off part of the station?�
**END RP**

Wilek> Don�t buy the computer games!!! They suck! They are buggy as anything and very unbalanced. Plus, they leave you out of the one redeeming feature of Magic, social interaction among the geek populace. ^_^

Jenna> Congratulations on the anniversary!!! ^_^ A well-wish and prayer for many more to come.

Gside> Ah � the lucky charms � I remember the simple joy of playing such random stuff � then the time where I didn�t acknowledge such cards existed � then when as a judge I had to deal with the rules crisis around them � and now the Lucky Charms generate activated triggered abilities *rolls his eyes* Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we venture to generate rules templates.

As for iron being opposed � I�d say crystal, ice, light/laser type constructions, and possibly glass. Ice is probably the best vs. iron as it tends to take up the medieval elemental combination of air (Cold north wind) and water.

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 02:50:41 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

**RP! (This one takes place shortly before Mecord's last RP.)**

[In the Dark Mage's quarters on the Avatar, the Dark Mage has opened a spellbook, and is reciting an evil incantation..."M�rk hum�r av gi avskjed og lyset, gjemme meg vei og skyggen meg sti fra det merkelig �ye og det s�ker sjel!" Elsewhere in the station, War Frost howls in agony, Archwolf falls to his knees and holds the sides of his head as if it's about to explode, and Mecord winces as if hearing a high note through a billion watt amplifier. After a few moments, the sensations mercifully subside. Archwolf: "What...what in the name of Gaia was *that*?!" Mecord looks around for a moment, as if sniffing the air. "Whatever sampled your aura just covered its trail. You've heard the expression 'burning one's bridges'? That was the literal version, at least as literal as magic ever gets." Archwolf: "<frowns> So I guess this means we'll never find him?" Mecord: "No, this means that our investigation will have to be a little more...conventional, in nature..."]

**PAUSE RP!**

Typo Demon> <bows> All in a day's work. ^_^

David G> <<Do you all think Sevarius stopped with creating the Mutates, or do you think he uses the money he gets from various evil overlords to fund his own projects?>> The latter; he seems very much the artisan-engineer to me, and I like to think he considers mutates and the like his works of art. Although I've always wanted to see him branch out, perhaps into cybernetics. Can you imagine what he'd be able to make with a mutation serum *and* cybermechanical gear?

Airwalker> <> Exactly--and, if they can't have children, it's that *lack of balance* that makes them such tragic characters. Imbalance and violation are at the core of horror and tragedy, and what was done to them was pretty horrible and tragic.

Niamhgold> <<does anyone know the power of gold? Is it a strong metal, or is silver of the more powerful lot?>> Not sure of its mystical significance, but I know it's easily broken if it isn't alloyed with a stronger metal (I remember a Chinese story involving some guy accidentally dropping a pure gold rose on a hard floor, and the rose shattering).

Gside> <<You talking about Admiral Grace Harper's bug?>> um...Dunno who Grace Harper is; I was referring to something that took place back when computers were room-sized masses of vacuum tubes; a literal bug wandered in and messed things up, and that is why computer glitches are called 'bugs' today. :)

Silverstar and others who are sick> Get well soon! <boils Sli Sludge in acid>

Rodlox> <<what's 'MtG'?>> Magic: The Gathering, A collectible card game. I'm not much into CCGs, but some of the artwork I've seen (a creepy skyship or two; I like those) has tempted me to buy the computer game.

Silverstar> <> AAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! O_O Losing your home...that has to be terrible. :`( Isn't there anything you can do? Anyone you can kill?

Shadowrider> <<maybe it is a global plan! (Wilek, do you know anything about it?) ;)>> Nothing that I know of...I'll have to have some of my lackeys infiltrate the major TV studios...

Anne> <<Today's the ten year anniversary when my brother died, so things aren't looking up at the moment.>> ACK. Even after such a long time, that has to be a terrible event. :(

Archwolf> Epee> An electrified rapier? OOOohhh...<grins evilly> I could use one of those...

**RESUME RP!**

[Elsewhere on the Avatar, the Quencher is banging and screaming at an airlock, hoping to break through and continue her pursuit of the Seeker...and is most surprised when a clawed hand bursts through the airlock's console and through her throat. She staggers away from it and looks into the maddeningly blank visage of Forfexx, who, upon melting out of the wall taunts, "Welcome to prime time, b***h! <hehee>" He looks at the viscous green gunk that is now slipping from his fingerblades as though they were teflon-coated. "Well there's something you don't see every day." Her wound even now almost finished regenerating, she dispenses with introductions and puts her fist through his chest. Naturally it has no other effect than to get her stuck. The merry cast of the mirrored surfaces that pass for Forfexx's eyes suggest that he'd be smirking if he had a mouth. Forfexx: "Charmed, I'm sure. The name's Forfexx Argentum. You, I presume, are the Quencher?" "I am your *murderer!*" She chops off his head, only to see it melt and remerge with his body, and then he grows another head, complete with snap-brim hat. Fexx: "I *like* you. You have spunk. Too bad I shall have to kill you, or perhaps watch enviously as Nature Boy kills you. But for now, why don't we play a game?" He vanishes, and reappears at the end of the corridor: "Catch me if you can!" he sings mockingly and floats down the hall, hoping this will distract the Quencher long enough for Kaioto and the others to formulate a plan...]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 02:17:49 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Well, nothing here that I really need to reply to. I'll jusst send generic greetings out to everyone. I have to at least get in my USRDA of postings before I go into withdrawal. =]

*wrinkles her nosey at the putrid remains of DC lying nearby. She wrinkles her brow in concentration, trying to make it disappear. Not only does DC vanish from sight, so does the section of floor he was laying on.* Opppss!! Sorry 'bout that folks. *Conjurs up police barricade tape around the hole and then hides her face in War Frost's fur, scritching furiously in embarrasment*
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 01:46:36 AM
IP: 98a987cc.ipt.aol.com

**Mecord enters in a flourish of cape and sword**

Cherry Blossom>> Glad to hear your feeling better, hope you make a quick and complete recovery from whatever ails you.

Rodlox>> Looking for an opposite of iron? Staying within the earth sphere a type of crystal may be the route to take. Certain types of quartz and amethyst are reported to have raw magical properties and are often used as good luck charms. Branching into other spheres, air may be the way to go. Of course, that doesn�t mean you have to use gasses. Birds may be considered a part of that sphere. A bird talon may prove their undoing (if you want to make it rare use the feather of a phoenix or the fang of a dragon). If you want to go the wood route, Redwood or other very tall trees may work if harvested from the top. At the top of mount Everest there may be a rare metal or a sword made of ice. There are lots of options, hope these can give you a couple of good ideas.

Silverstar>> Moving? That is bad. Good luck.

Jenna>> Happy anniversary.

****RP WARNING****
�Are you sure he�s in that thing?� Archwolf asks when he spies what has to be the ugliest ship he has seen so far.
Bardic, who was in the shape of a golden haired man, nods, �I know his aura from when we ran into him a while back.�
Warfrost growled. Archwolf agreed, it didn�t look good. They entered the craft. Mecord was the last one in. The door sealed behind them. They all looked around nervously. Voices could be heard from further inside the ship.
Bardic, closely followed by Archwolf and the others, entered an adjacent chamber. A blue gargoyle had his back turned to them.
�That�s him!� Bardic called.
�Huh?� Wilek turned.
Archwolf leapt at Wilek, changing into a more wolf-like form. Though caught by surprise, Wilek managed to use his tail to knock the werewolf aside.
�Bardic, take him!� Mec yelled.
Magical bands shot from Bardic�s hands, wrapping around the Gargoyle.
Straining against the bands, Wilek utters a word of power. The bonds broke. An arm wrapped around Wilek�s head and claws were held at his throat. At that moment Khesaat, accompanied by four security drones, rushed into the room weapons raised. Mecord grabs for his his dual-bolt crossbow. For the moment, nobody breaths.
****END RP****

G'night all. :)

**Mecord pulls out a pillow and falls asleep.**
Mecord
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 01:30:53 AM
IP: usr62.mtwest.net

Well I think I passed my final. HOPE HOPE HOPE. Know, to catch up on what I've missed.
BTW has anyone heard of the song "Sweet Verginia"?

DumlaoX-My condolences about your father.

Kitainia-Yes, I thought Mission to Mars was good. Though they did take their sweet time getting to Mars didn't they?

Well that's all for now.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Wednesday, March 22, 2000 12:56:28 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Comes floating in-

Why am I floating- it was my husband's and mine first wedding anniversary this weekend- my feet still haven't touched the ground *sigh*

Quick responses-

Kitana- glad you liked the poem

Shadow rider- glad you liked the garg story- it blew me away too!

Silverstar- Hugz.
jenna
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:27:12 PM
IP: 1cust228.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Aaron > hmm, now, that would work ... David Warner can do grumpy and peevish, and that line comes when Solarrin's still a gnome ... yeah, I'd be in favor of that! ; )

Sabledrake > still eagerly looking for submissions for the April issue! The theme is humor, so any funny stories, poems, art, etc, would be muchly appreciated!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:22:51 PM
IP: 03-157.009.popsite.net

Hey, all. Haven't caught up yet, but I have to rant...

<miniRant>
OK. What the heck is it about em that seems to attract obnoxious, egotitsical men with French accents whren I'm in a bookstore minding my own business?!!!? First the Horny Algerian (loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong story) and tonight some egotist who follwed me (this after I gave him a mild brush off when he first tired to talk to me) and told me he was the man of my dreams. <blink> AaaAAAaaaarrrrrrRRRRRRRrrrrrgggggGGGGGGGgggghhhHHHHHHH.
</miniRant>

Sushi: heh, don't knock it 'till you try it. I used to turn up my nose at it until I had some, and now I'm a bona fide sushi *fiend*. I mean, Mmmmmhmmm, yummy for my tummy. Eel sushi and tuna are uber-delish!
jewel
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:02:07 PM
IP: abde8c67.ipt.aol.com

silverstar> My parents are moving out of the house where I grew up. I don't live there anymore, but it's still kind of weird to think about. I'd say something upbeat and witty to cheer you up, but I can't think of anything.

As to your other question, I think most cartoon teams tend to be made up of mostly guys is that the audience has traditionally been mostly guys, and the writers (or the producers, who aren't so clever) want the audience to be able to identify with the characters. The trend is changing a little bit, though. The Avengers (which isn't very good) has three female members. I can think of some Anime where the girls outnumber the boys.

Mutate Reproduction> This is getting interesting. Since all that really matters is story potential (the science behind retro-mutation is still a bit shakey) does anybody care to sound off on which option - to breed or not to breed - offers the best story potential, and how it might be used?

I'm such a pluralist that I can see it both (actually all three) ways.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:57:09 PM
IP: dll2a030-0176.splitrock.net

* Archwolf comes in and throws a battered DC to War Frost. The Dire Wolf sniffs at the near corpse, grimmaces, then goes back to getting attention from Katara*

Silverstar>From one Military Brat to another, I feel your pain. So, where in Germany and where in Texas? I was 6 weeks old when we moved to Frankfurt. Spent 4 years there,then we moved to Oklahoma for almost a year, then 2 in Berlin (and oh, do I remember the wall and all the sirens and gunshots related to it), then 2 more in Bittburg (sp). Then 5 years at Laughlin AFB, Texas. Dad retired and we moved to Pittsburgh. 7 years later, here I am in Cleveland.

Warpmind> Epee: The [sport] fencing version of the early or transitional rapier. about 35" long. It is electrified [well, it carries a current from a machine, up a set of cords, up a wire in the blade, to a spring loaded tip, back down the wire and cords, and to the machine, setting off a light when the tip is depressed]

Well, I'm going to get out of here before DC recovers.

Shade and Sweet water
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:55:36 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Silverstar: **turns on cheesy tourist bureau voice** Then might I suggest to them upon their retirement the lovely community of Algonac, located just enough in the loop but just enough out of the way to be pleasant (an hour northeast of Detroit), where they can find numerous waterfront properties, small-town charm and a Gargfan with a retired Navy mother. (That'd be me.) ;)
You're kidding, Michigan? What a fascinating coinkydink. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:26:06 PM
IP: zzz-209252248064.splitrock.net

MtG: Coyote got it right. What I was specifically referring to was the "Luck Charms" artifacts that each color got. White got a (just realised I got it wrong before) Ivory Cup, Green a Wooden Sphere, Red a Iron Star, Black a Throne of Bone, and Blue a Crystal Wand. Since White and Blue are the natural opposites of Red, Ivory and Crystal would be the opposites of Iron.

Silverstar> <<Why don't they have an all female group with the exception of one guy? I'm sure the guy in the group wouldn't mind!>>: No, he would not.

Doug> <<nine females..., four beasts, and only two males>>: Nice start for a harem...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:24:43 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Silverstar: My fanfics are posted in the archive at www.gargoyles-fans.org. Can't link to the exact page where they are due to the page's setup, but I'm sure you can find them once you start looking. Thanks for asking, and good luck to you with the new house.
Doug
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:20:27 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-11.dlls.grid.net

Hello again.
I just found out that our lease doesn't end until June, but we still have 30 days to move. My parents are out looking around town so that way we won't have to move to another city. They haven't been very lucky.

Coyote> I've been moving for all my life so I know how it is too. (gives a weak smile) My parents are in the military and will be until my senior year of HS. Then we might be moving to Michigan. So far I have been to Germany( that is where I was born and we moved when I was two) Texas for six years, Alaska for four, and California for four and a half years now. Thanks for telling me that you know what moving is like though :)

Niamhgold> Actually we have a huge shrunk that my mom bought in Germany. I don't know what she'll do with it!

Doug> Thanks for praying for me! I am glad someone else thinks that all-male clans are a bit disturbing. (?)
I think that they should add some more females to the 'Gargoyles' series. By the way do you know when it's going to start? I've never read your fanfics. Do you have a link to them?

Well I have to go and sulk a bit more. Oh yea! I just remembered that since we are moving my best friend can't come and see me over spring break and I can't have a party for my birthday! This really just isn't my day.

Bye*
silverstar
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:15:48 PM
IP: l1p38.dav.mother.com

Hi all. Unfortunately, due to a few computer glitches and schoolwork and family problems and a whole lot of other troubles heaped, I'm not going to be able to post in here much, if not once in two weeks. :( Today's the ten year anniversary when my brother died, so things aren't looking up at the moment. I'll miss you all and will try to get in here more often, but life really sucks right now and my family's just a wreck...feeling depressed but making through it. As soon as Timedancer's back, I'll post as regularly as I can, but now Claw, my sister (who's the eight-year-old, BTW y'all fresh meat) and I are very busy. As for Ash, he's yours Zath. ;) Anyway, I have to go. I'll see you all soon...
Anne
MN, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:04:06 PM
IP: 204-246-241-122.nas2.apv.gblx.net

Shadowrider: That's alright, take all the time you need. Glad you're liking the story so far. Thanks for the compliments, and I look forward to more feedback when you're done. Here's a little info on some of the original characters in my work just to help you-

Rachel Xanatos: David and Fox's second child, has enough magic in her to rival Oberon, and she knows how to use it (level of maturity comes from fay heritage, which I think should make one a prodigy given all the power it can give). She's very young, but quite powerful. In teenage body due to genetic experiment Sevarius did on her for the Illuminati when she was a baby (no, David didn't sponsor it, if you're wondering. In fact, he didn't even know about it till it was done :). Silvan Farrow, a powerful seer and sorcerer who until recently led the Society, funded the operation and also trained Rachel in the use of her powers. Read Masterpiece for more. She's spent time with the X-Men, but mainly helps the Manhattan Clan.

Seth Figaro: Former New York cop, now does vigilante work when he's not doing maintenance for a living in a nightclub (Doc's). Seth has quite a history behind him, goes back nine thousand years. Can't say it all right now, but his original name was Abel. Yep, the Abel from the Bible. He was raised from the dead by a demon for some still-unrevealed purpose and then made immortal by Madoc like his brother Cain (aka career Illuminatius Ares O'Neil). Seth used to be Illuminati, but he was thrown out of the Society for being too much of a loose cannon. Recently lost his immortality (see End to the Rage) for details and is now trying to do good things with what he has left of his life. Also Demona's best friend (see One Psycho to Another for how that came about).

Zack Sheppard: Highlander-style immortal, and student of Sata's (she's teaching him kendo). Former military commando and pilot who encountered the clan and decided to befriend them for various reasons (see End to the Rage for details, as well as Innocence and the Test for more of the development Zack's undergone since then, I don't have the time or the will to spoil things by going into it here).

Nikki and Jade- read the latest Avalon Mists issue at GFW, it has their profiles. Read The Hostage and Dragon's Game for full details on what kind of characters they are and their pasts.

Muscles Malone- Manhattan Blood gangs leader, as Elysium reminds the reader. Also ex-Marine, and still uses a lot of military lingo when speaking. His goons include the three thugs we saw a lot of on Gargoyles (who I named Jasper, Banger, and Slash), loyal lackey Salton (an Edward Norton type), punk vampire Greenhead, and drug dealer JC (who is based on Steve from 90210, and if my fics were TV would have the same voice). You saw them all in Elysium, read my other stories and you'll see them again and again. :)

Silverstar: Hope you're well soon, I'll be praying it happens. <shoots Sli Sludge just in case it'll help> BTW, I too am a bit distressed by all the all-male clans on Gargs, but recognize having such groups as heroes is somewhat of a tradition in superhero stories. Glad that tradition is being put to rest these days. :) <Why don't they have an all female group with the exception of one guy?> Funny, I'm planning on coming close to that in my fanfic. The Arabian/Pakistani gargoyles clan I'll bring onto the stage someday will have nine females (including the leader, Kadijah, who looks like the demon statue in The Exorcist), four beasts, and only two males.

More later when I have time for it, gotta make dinner now.
Doug
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 08:53:23 PM
IP: pool-207-205-236-11.dlls.grid.net

**obligingly takes the glass from Aaron** Thanks. **looks at glass** Uhmm ... this wouldn't happen to be Milk-Plus, would it? ;)
Then again, I suppose the folks in the room would appreciate it if we got rid of the big ol' sculpture on the bar ... considering where ya tapped the milk from ...

GB: Well, true ... but you also consider that I'm too literal-minded when it comes to casting something like MoLM ... I'm more going to gravitate toward someone who would better fit the role, *plus* can actually act out the part without difficulty. (In this particular situation ... folks are gonna stone me for this one, but if any pop singer portrays Aldonza, it'll be Britney Spears.)

Cyborg: Hmm ... maybe tonight I'll be able to coax XenaTrek into posting once more (she got her computer back online), and she can chime in on the Mainframe Vs. Flat Earth debate, since she studied 3D modeling and animation in college ...
For the record, the *best* overall in quality that I've seen of the major 3D modeling animation houses has been the house employed by DreamWorks for the film "Antz." They had the best feel for textures, depth and perspective, and additionally the stuff *looked* real. Of course, the film that's gonna raise the bar for this field hasn't arrived yet, but is supposed to soon (Main S8 folks know I refer to Roy Sato's favorite non-Gargs topic, Squaresoft's "Final Fantasy" movie).

Kitainia: Thanks for your good wishes, friend. Unfortunately it might not let up anytime soon, since today we got word that yet *another* counterman was fired ... he just plain didn't show up for two consecutive days of work (which constitutes enough for a firing). And folks in the industry know ... have known for about six months now ... that there's a shortage of qualified people for parts counter jobs that have been opening up all over the automotive aftermarket.
But of course, my store is too damn cheap to offer the qualified ones the money the other stores do just to get the guys in the door (Action Auto offers $13/hr to *start* for experienced countermen ... Pep Boys offers $11/hr ... my store, you're lucky if you're offered $6.50 to start, I've been there for two years, started at $7/hr doing commercial accounts driving, and am currently at $7.50/hr and waiting RATHER IMPATIENTLY for the damn *raise* I was supposed to get in JANUARY!!).

But I digress. The point of this being that I WISH THEY'D FRIGGIN' HIRE SOMEBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"PCU": Ah yes, another modern classic film ... "Welcome to college life in the '90's. You can major in Game Boy if you know how to bulls**t."

Aaron: Yeah, that too ... I mean, geez ... how did they choose *that* arrangement of the Ninth????
(For those who haven't heard it, either from the ads *or* from "A Clockwork Orange," the arrangement is a synthesized, very bouncy version of the final movement of Beethoven's Ninth, which if the ad allowed it to go further would include a muffled synth-voice singing the chorale part ... it was played twice in ACO, once when Alex was seducing two girls in a record store (once he got 'em in the bedroom, the film sped up and the music switched to the William Tell Overture), the second as background music to a Nazi propaganda film Alex was shown as part of his "treatment.")
It's almost like they said, "Oh, listen! This sounds cool!" "But it's from A Clockwork Orange." "Who cares? It's cute, it stays in the ad. We're a big-time advertising agency with a government check to cash!!!"

Rodlox, Niamhgold: MtG is a quickie short abbreviation for "Magic: The Gathering."

Silverstar: Good luck with your move ... this comes from someone who moved on a regular basis every three years until he was 14, so I hope that means something to ya. :)

Ah well ... enough from me for one night ... **picks up the aforementioned sculpture, one of the milkbar taps from ACO that looks like a bent-over naked woman, and walks out of the room** No need for *this* eyesore in here ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 08:16:32 PM
IP: zzz-209252248064.splitrock.net

Timedancer Season 3> Whoo hoo! I will now go and play all 3 versions of the Timedancer theme(Timedancer theme, Future Tense Mix, and Inst Version) that I downloaded onto my computer a while back.
Matthew - [MattS1@aol.com]
New City, NY, 10956
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 08:13:34 PM
IP: abd1b71d.ipt.aol.com

No King Arthur this time :)

Do the Timedancer happy dance! It's coming back! Oh yeah!

Gside: You're right, about the mutation catalyst. Now I know why I'm not going into the sciences...I dabble in them, but I'll never be able to remember all that I crammed for in Biology and Physiology! ;} Crystal sounds good as an opposite to iron...but I have to join Rodlox in asking, what is MtG?

Shadowrider: Yeah, silver is a much more medieval metal, anywho :) I forget who mentioned Mercury...that's the one thing I _know_ is an alchemist's most powerful tool. Maybe I know this from what Christine wrote about the Grimorum Necronum in "Damien"

silverstar: Move out of your house in 30 days? You have my sympathies...and hope you don't have a lot of stuff to move out! Also, get better, as we all hate the dreaded cold/flu! :)

Oh, Timedancer's coming. Yeah!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 08:13:18 PM
IP: ncia93n.ncia.net

Timedancer Season III beginning at T minus 28 hours,22 minutes and 10 seconds. Countdown continues...

Archwolf:> <<That is the way things work in the 'States. We are striving for the lowest possible quality on television. If we dull out the masses (present company excluded), it is easier to rule them. At least, that is what I THINK is giong
on. Who knows.>> Well, in Italy happens the same. For the same reasons, I think. Hey, maybe it is a global plan! (Wilek, do you know anything about it?) ;)

Kitainia:> <<Thanks for the compliments...>> You're welcome ! :). << I'm a little down now...>> Sometimes happens. Just remember that, no matter how things can seem bad, they'll get better! I'm honored that you consider me your friend. Needless to say, vice versa is also true. :)

Gargoyles over:> OK, I know: Disney executives don't care the quality of what they produce, it's three years that the fandom yells at them for that...but I go nuts about it anyway!

Doug:> Well, I know I promised you some feedback about "Elysium"...but I admit I've read just a half of it by now. I'm sorry, but I really had no time. Anyway, the story seems interesting (I haven't read any of your previous works, so I had to figure out who your characters happened to be...I think I did it...at least, I hope...), the topic is rather present, characters are well-developed. I promise I'll finish it as soon as I can, then I'll send you more feedback.

Mecord:> Well, what I said to Mecord applies to you...except that I actually was not able even to begin your story. I apologize, but I'm being very busy nowadays. I promise I'll read it as soon as I can.

Mutates reproduction:> I think I agree with Toku. Sevarius is for sure the kind of guy who likes to create a new species on his own, so for sure he intended to give them the ability to reproduce, transmitting to their offspring their mutation.

Katara:> thank you for the infos. I'm glad to hear you're better, and I hope you'll be totally OK soon.

Niamhgold:> Well, I know very little about alchemy, but I often heard about silver being used in it, while I rarelt heard mentioning of gold. Repeat, I know very little about this topic.

Cherry:> I'm glad to see you back. I hope that, anything happened to you, you'll be OK soon. My best wishes to you.

Ci vediamo, ragazzi!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:28:30 PM
IP: h255-22-160.mi2.albacom.net

Hi!

Disturbing, no make that BAD news. I just found out today that we have to move out of our house in 30 days so the realiters(sp) can put it up for sale. This day is turning out to be VERY bad! (sighs)

SOROW> thank you! I hope that I feel somewhat better by tomorrow.

David G.> <Maybe he wanted to start out small> Um, I don't know if that is the reason. If it is, then he must have wanted to start *really* small.
Also, have you noticed that a lot of the clans have only one female in them? I have also noticed it is the same way for a lot of shows. Why don't they have an all female group with the exception of one guy? I'm sure the guy in the group wouldn't mind! :)

Wel have to go inform the rest of my friends that I'll be moving. :( Sometimes I think buisnesses have no hearts!
(frowns)
Bye!
silverstar
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:26:58 PM
IP: l2p12.dav.mother.com

silverstar> I pray you get better. It's no fun being sick.

I have tons of applications for school clubs due so I just wanted to pop in. TIMEDANCER IS COMING!!!!!!!!
SOROW
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:16:23 PM
IP: dll2a010-0019.splitrock.net

ATTENTION ALL BABYLON 5 FANS!!! Click on my name or cut and paste this URL

http://www.sev.com.au/toonzone/sevylon5/strip.asp
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:08:45 PM
IP: dialin-1125-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Oh! Onion! That's what was confusing me on the post...

Yeah, I know the Onion is a humor mag, but there is some fact behind the Klingon language outstripping certain other created languages in popularity.

On a bit of unrelated news, it seems that my favorite Clinton class con man in a clerical collar: Bob Larson, has suffered a major blow to his ministry. As of the start of April, he will lose his flagship station here in Dallas! Considering that almost 50% of his ministry's revenue was generated from the D/FW market alone, and he has been on rather rocky finacial footing for a few years recently, this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back! So there is a cause for celebration!
Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 06:42:00 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-09.ultravision.net

Gside: what's 'MtG'?

Rodlox
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 06:13:20 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***(comes in coughing and sneezing)***

Well it happened! I avoided getting sick all winter and now I have a cold. (coughs again) I hate being sick!

Warpmind> I didn't ask. I was saying that since I AM a FEMALE I can't be a priest. Sorry for the confusion! :)

Gside> Yah, I see what ya mean!

Well gotta' go now people. I have stuff to do that I don't feel like doing.
***(walks out coughing and sneezing)***
silverstar
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 05:25:04 PM
IP: l1p29.dav.mother.com

Just a quick response or two before I go to class.

Cherry Blossom: Glad to hear you are feeling better.

Mutate reproductive ability: Since females have their half of the reproductive soup since birth (actually, didn't someone say 2 years?), IMO any kids would get more human characteristics from Maggie. While, as males continuosly renew theirs, the kids would receive the mutate characteristics from Talon. This would account for human aspects such as upright posture, and speach ability, as well as the mutate parts. That would mean that their kids would look somewhat like the parents. (ie: a blond- furred boy with Talon's bone structure, wasn't Maggie blond?)
As to whether or not the mutates are fertile (making all the above moot point in one case), Herr docktor was a perfectionist. He would make sure his subjects would still be fertile before administering the serum. Possibly he achieved this by leaving enough human DNA in both male and female, in the same areas, that they would still be compatable, and he may even have mutated the reproductive system also, so that both the mother and child would survive the pregnancy. (can you just immagin the consequences of that lightning when a girl's pregnant? Owch!)

Uh oh, I'm late, bye for now!
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 05:11:56 PM
IP: 198.168.49.221

Wilek> <<planted the bug in ENIAC>>: You talking about Admiral Grace Harper's bug?
<<Or is it so difficult a procedure that it takes an entire convention full of tech experts to pull it off?>>: Sounds about right. Ever try to install Linux without a distribution (Red Hat, etc)? It probably would be even better if they use Free BSD...

Warpmind> <>: Remember, one semester of English here. We don't know the difference.

"Drunk on the lawn in a neuclear dawn/my senses finally blurred." And just where is the lowest highest point?

Kitainia> <<Uh, no, the dialogue>>: My point was more that as I am a idiot male, I did not notice the dialogue, but the cleavage. I think I would have liked to been that wire...

Rodlox> <<what is the opposite of Iron>>: It depends on what aspect of Iron you are using as a symbol. If it's for technology, something natural like wood would work. If you take your cues from MtG, alabaster and crystal would be good.

Revel> <<what element on the periodic table has twice the number of protons as Iron or perhaps half the number>>: Tellurium and Aluminum. But since iron is a metal, Flourine would be pretty much the opposite in that sense (or Chlorine, Bromine, or Iodine).

Niamhgold> <<A mutation affecting parents later in their lives is not, as a general rule, carried down to their offspring>>: Yes, but this is an artificially induced mutation, and we do not know which method Sevarius used. If it was a catalyst that could reach inner organs (outside direct bloodstream), it could probably reach the gametes.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 04:19:02 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

King Arthur, I guess that'll be today's choice. I'm in a bit of a British mood today :)

SEMI-RANT
Had troubles with the bank. I made a deposit into my checking account about two weeks ago, just to cover for some checks I knew I was going to have to write after that. Now, I know that they wait up to a day after you make the deposit before it shows up in your account; apparently, though, they waited a *week* before applying the deposit to my account! Therefore, both of the checks I wrote bounced only because my deposit hadn't shown up, so I ended up paying 48 dollars due to that, and then the extra fee for overdrawing my account! So I called them, tried to staighten it out, but of course the bank *never* makes a mistake. But, low and behold, the deposit I made _two_ weeks ago showed up when I called them today. So they apologized, but I still had to pay the extra fees. *Sigh* It's because of this type of flubbing that I can't afford to go to G2K.

:) :) :)

All right, happy thoughts, now...

David G.--I agree with you on the point that a female has all of the eggs she needs by the young age. A mutation affecting parents later in their lives is not, as a general rule, carried down to their offspring (for example, if you were born with a defective limb, this does not necesarily mean you're offspring will have the same problem). However, if the mutation serum *did* tinker with the DNA, there's a good chance it tinkered with the ovaries, as well. Therefore, there may be infertility (such as that brought on by radiation). I have no speculations as to what would occur if Sevarius made it so both Talon and Maggie were fertile and able to reproduce; I'm not sure that their children would be _more_ catlike. Some of Talon and Maggie's genes seem to remain human (thus, vocal chords and upright posture), while other genes tend to be animallike. In theory, a child could be like the parents, or more human if those genes crossed, or more catlike if those genes crossed in the Punnett square.

Rodlox: Opposite of iron. Not quite sure, but I see that the armor of Oberon and Titania tends to be made of gold. But, as David G. said, copper is a feasible choice. I don't see wood as being the opposite of iron; however, I am not an alchemist, either. For some reason (and it's my own creative and unfeasible fancy, mind you!) I kinda like the idea of coral as some sort of weakness/weapon. Coral-tipped spears...that sounds like an interesting idea ;D

Speaking of alchemy, does anyone know the power of gold? Is it a strong metal, or is silver of the more powerful lot?

Geek Pride:) Woo-hoo! About time!

Well, gotta go get my windshield replaced. some wonderful neighbor-kid decided it would be nice to throw and ice-ball at the glass...and crack it...:(

Hasta Manana!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 03:39:42 PM
IP: ncia116n.ncia.net

Aaron wanders in and heads to the bar, where he orders two big glasses of milk, and slides one over to Coyote.

Here's to ye, me droogie. I've noticed that ad myself. It's right up there with the previews for The Tigger Movie with Semi-charmed Life.

Christine>Ahhh, I see. So much for my dream of hearing David Warner say "You call dragon, ogre, giant bat a divination spell?" with all the nasty sarcasm he can deliver.

Kitainia> MacBeth vs. Jesse Custer? Ouch.

Gside>I dunno, I just don't like Ritsuko. She's one of the ones in on Commander Ikari's secret agenda, and she's always doing things to screw with Misato's head. Plus, she said retrieving the Eva was more important then retrieving Shingi, which I felt earned her a slap.

David G> The Island of Dr. Sevarius, eh?

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 03:27:03 PM
IP: ppp-136.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Rodlox-The opposite of Iron?

Well if you want to get real technical you could find what element on the periodic table has twice the number of protons as Iron or perhaps half the number. Or wood sound like a good idea. Would put a whole nw spin to, "I had to beat them off with a stick!" (slight laugh)
My personal sudgestion would have to be Mercury. Being a metal in liquid form.
Lightning going on out the way.
Later.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
hell, tx
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 03:18:45 PM
IP: spider-wg054.proxy.aol.com

Rodlox> Iron is made of stone and fire (if you follow medieval philosophy about such things), so its opposite would logically be something composed of air and water, which would be fog, I suppose. That's not terribly useful, so I would choose wood if I were you, or a plant. Using the four classic elements, Wood is made of earth and water (I think - I was never much of an Alchemist).

Wood has its own problems as a story tool, since it's rather readily available. I'd narrow the choice down to a specific type. Ash and Oak both have various mystical significances, so either would make a good choice.

Traditionally, Faeries made their tools out of copper or Bronze, so you might use those instead. Copper, in particular, has a nice mystical feel to it.

Last, but not least, Obsidian could be considered somewhat the opposite of Iron since it's Ignious rock, and Hemitite is Metamorphic (if I remember correctly). Stone axes and knives can actually be sharper than metal ones, too.

That's probably more advice than you needed. I hope some of it was useful.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 03:12:03 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

small question which i hope does NOT get carried away this time!:

what is the opposite of Iron? a population in my fics is the opposite of the Fae, drawing their strength from the metal. would Wood weaken them?

think of this as a tactical excercise. ::)

thank you.

Rodlox
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 02:43:41 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

DUMLAOX - Sincerest Condolences on your loss. You have my deepest sympathies.

SEVARIUS JR - You wrote: [I agree with the statement that the two are quite possibly sterile. Most mutants, or mutates, are indeed sterile due to their condition.]

Having the Mutates be sterile would probably be the most realistic route to go down. But I'm not so sure if that should be the road that should be taken. The Mutates already lost their humanity and they've already lost contact with mainstream society (they have the little group they've gathered in the Labyrinth but that's not the same as being able to walk down the street in broad daylight). On top of that they've lost the ability to have a completely normal life. I think that some sort of a balance should be struck in that they should be able to have children.

You wrote: [If they indeed could reproduce....well, let's just say that I wouldn't want to be there for the birth.]

If television sitcom's are any sort of guide then I don't think Talon would want to be their either. :-)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 02:36:35 PM
IP: 89.new-york-06-07rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Mutates: <<Also, technically, doesn't a woman have all the eggs she's ever going to have by the time she's mature? In that case, a male Mutate might be able to reproduce, but a female who was transformed after childhood could only bear human offspring.>

the germ cells which actually produce the child, they are set in place by the time the kid reaches 2 years; so unless Sevarius went to the trouble of replacing those too.....{which would mean that, in a sense, at least, even that part of them had been violated}.

no wonder the Mutates have such {pardon the pun} polarized personalities. survival reflex.

<<various evil overlords to fund his own projects?>>

if he can manage to find the time, then i don't see why not.

<<For instance, I think it might be interesting to see a fanfic where someone tracks the Doctor to his private island, which is populated by flying wolves and other genetic terrors>>

i know i'll read that!!

{although 'depend on him' sentance read rather like Jurassic Park}. ::)

Rodlox
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 02:13:28 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Welcome back to those, like myself, who were gone all last week.
(so quiet as people stare can hear their eyes blink)
Okay so I don't manage to find way in here very often, but at least I'm a loyal fan, honest
Anyhow
Dumlao-truley am sorry to hear about your father. Death is always hard especially when it hits home.

I notice last week Robby thew a fit about a couple of topics so I'll just stear clear of that wagon. On the more comical side of things, we had to turn in our housing contracts this morning. It was an interesting setup. They had in a line that could be compared to Episode I on opening day and had us file in this one coference room to grab this little green form located at one table in the corner of the room. No table to right on, no you sat on the floor and filled it out and turned it back in where? Yes, back at the same table that all the forms were at to begin with. Of course by that time there was no line just a big hored of people. My conclution was that it was a student who planned the layout because any experienced person would have known that was going to happen.

TD Season III- Counting down to the hour.

Gundam Wing- More than any thing I love the character development. It is an excellent example of creating unique pesonalities. Because after all, we are all different in some way or another.

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:32:48 AM
IP: spider-th061.proxy.aol.com

Dumlao X> Sorry, I can't spell. I should have grabbed your name from somewhere else and pasted it in, which is what I usually do. (That way it's someone else's fault if I misspell it)

Cherry Blossom> You're the person I forgot to mention. I'm glad you're doing better now. If you should happen to want someone to talk to, I post my e-mail address for a reason.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:24:00 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*appears*

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that was praying for me..it was greatly appreciated..I am doing quite a bit better, although I am still rather out of my mind....*smiles* thank you much everyone..

my condolences to Brian Dumlao..I know how it is to lose a father...

*disappears*
cherry blossom
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:27:51 AM
IP: spider-te051.proxy.aol.com

In first sentence below, I meant "I am a girl," not "I'm not a girl." Where is my mind right now? <sighs> Later!
Kit
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:07:01 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-125.dlls.grid.net

Gside: Uh, no, the dialogue. I don't usually go for cleavage since I'm not a girl. (And even if I was lesbian, I'm pretty sure Gillian Anderson wouldn't be my type.)

Warpmind: "I see the noble Kitainia has posted a description-" that's what I was referring to. :) Thanks again for it, and for the Quencher clarification (even if she weren't demon before, I think she is now :( ).

Mecord: Thanks for the good feedback response. Sorry I was so confused last night, I think I may have mixed up your story with someone else's. <sighs> Anyway, all the comments I gave except the resolving-stuff still apply, and I am waiting eagerly for Part 2. Mostly since we get to find out who the muy-creepy bad guy is. :) Hope it's out soon.

Gotta go to school now.
Kitiania
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:06:01 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-125.dlls.grid.net

Nobody's using Rory much anymore. I miss him. I also want to try out a color for a change. Hope nobody gets too confused.

It's been a while since I've managed to post more than three lines, so I today I'm making time. Sorry I've been out of the loop for so long. Things have been a bit hectic, and I've been sick. It seems to be getting better now, though.

There's way too much to catch up on. If I miss someone, I'm really sorry.

Denis> Happy Belated Birthday. Any word on when the next G2K will be up?
Dumoulo X> I'm really bad at condolences. Any words I can think of seem so inadequate to express what I feel. The ones below are from the play Cymbeline, by William Shakespeare. They offer just about the only comfort I can think of that doesn't seem trite or cheap.

Fear no more the heat o' th' sun
Nor the furious winters' rages;
Thou thy worldly task hast done,
Home art gone, and ta'en thy wages.

Mutates Breeding> This topic has come up before, but I've never said much about it. I see two main possibilities, depending on what Xanatos and Sevarius wanted.

(1) A new race: Sevarius would use an amalgam of big cat DNA and strive for genetic compatability so that his creatures could breed. That would explain why there was a female in the mix, but it would have made sense to make more. Maybe he wanted to start small.

(2) Living weapons: Xanatos wanted to be sure he had the only supply of Mutates, so they wouldn't be able to breed. The only way to make more was to inject them with the serum. The Mutates, if they could breed at all, would have to find mates with exactly the same set of animal characteristics.

I tend to lean toward option 1. There was no evidence of more than one type of mutagen serum, so most likely the Mutates all have the same DNA, but manifest different cat characteristics in the same way that humans manifest different hair and eye colors. Of course, all this assumes that the base DNA has changed at all. Also, technically, doesn't a woman have all the eggs she's ever going to have by the time she's mature? In that case, a male Mutate might be able to reproduce, but a female who was transformed after childhood could only bear human offspring.

My knowledge of biology is a bit rusty, so I might be off base there. I'm sure someone will let me know.

This discussion brings up an interesting topic. Do you all think Sevarius stopped with creating the Mutates, or do you think he uses the money he gets from various evil overlords to fund his own projects? For instance, I think it might be interesting to see a fanfic where someone tracks the Doctor to his private island, which is populated by flying wolves and other genetic terrors, all bound in service to Sevarius because he built crippling addictions into their DNA and he's the only supplier of what they need to survive.

Come to think of it, I write Fanfic sometimes...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 09:25:16 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*Warpmind enters, singing "Mi Vida Loca". Right behind him follow the chibis, who zap him into silence.*

Katara: Alas, actually learning how to cast those spells happen to be second-year material... ;)

Caliope: Never fear; I have no interest in anyone buying me a sports car... don't even have a driver's license (and I'm just as happy). ;)

Gside: I take it you will assist the Nereus Project in the development of better speech-to-text interface for computers, then? :) And I think you mean Holy Geekan Emperor, not Emporer. There's a difference... ;)

Fire Storm: I know I made that one too easy. I wanted to see if you could resist the temptation. ;) It seems you are a better man than I am, Gunga Din. :)

Green Baron: Set up a European Rifle Association? Are you nuts? I wouldn't trust civilians with anything more dangerous than a piece of twine! And I wouldn't even trust the military with said piece of twine! ;) Just kidding. Actually, I think that idea sounds nice, but we obviously need some means of control...

Silverstar: If you see no problem with being a priest and enjoying female company, what did you ask for in the first place? ;)

Archwolf: An Epee blade? Mind elaborating a bit? You say you got it wired and assembled, does that mean it's some sort of vibroblade, or maybe an electrified sword? :)

SJ: A minor correction: The Quencher isn't a demon, she's human, and merely granted some Major League powers by the forces of Darkness. Just like the Seeker is empowered by Heaven. Capisce?

Coyote the Bando: Classical music in movies: While on the subject, did you ever see a movie called "Rollerball"? Now, THAT was a fun movie. Very violent sport. :)

Christine: Ah, well, just a random thought... I guess, if you sign a contract with Lucas, you'd have the game company there, too, no? :)

Kitania: Uh... nobility comment? Right now I don't follow you... but that is probably because the inside of my skull is teflon coated. Nothing sticks. ;) As for the Summon Coffee spell... see my comment to Katara. :(

Gside again: What do you mean, depends on how much enjoyment? Oh, right, Catholic priests are required to be chaste, right? My bad; I forgot. Lutheranean priests are luckier that way... >:)

Wilek: I doubt yesterday's monitor incident was as severe as the scenario you referred to, but I still reported it to the SysAdmin...

Gotta run. Later all, 'kay?
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 08:36:04 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*both girls fight over wich color they get to use and who gets to type*

Cali: Common alex!!! I dont wanna be pansy pink!!!
Alex: But Cali!!! Pink is cute!!!
Cali: Eww!!! Besides, your name is first...and you have YOUR link up!!!( OK, so I dont have a link but so what?!)
Alex: Ok Fine!!! sheesh...
Cali: YEY!!!
Alex: Now tell everyone to clickie my page Cali!
Cali:...Why what for?
Alex: Cuz whats the point of making a page if no one sees it!!!
Cali: OK! Sheesh! Dont have a cow!!...Mmmm steak! :P
Alex: I want mine med-rare!!!
Cali: I want mine well done!!! I dont like my cow jumpping of my plate and walking away! :P
Alex:...I'm hungry...go tell em so we can go have lunch!!
Cali: Yeah lunch!!

OK! Everyone CLICKIE Alex's page....NOW!!! Oh and leave a message after the beep!

Alex: My message board doent beep....
Cali:....Ok....Beep yourself before leaving a message!

Ok! We're going!!! Bye!!!

Alex: I cant leave without saying it!!!
Cali:.....FINE Alex!!!
Alex: YEY!!! Ok! Gotta book it!!!
Cali: Happy?
Alex: Compleatly!
Cali: OK! Bye Guys! *HUGZ for all!!!*
Alex Destine and Caliope
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:34:26 AM
IP: 136.145.83.210

If anyone has a saved copy of the comment room from two weeks ago (week of 3/5 - 3/12), or knows where one can be found, please e-mail me. Thank you.
Patrick Toman - [PatrickAT@aol.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 07:28:42 AM
IP: abd3baf3.ipt.aol.com

**Reaches down and gives War Frost his desired scritches. She chuckles as his eyes become mere slits and he gives a wolfish, contented sigh. Unable to resist the cute picture he makes, he slides her arms around his neck and hugs the huge wolf, continuing to scritch his back fur..hoping he doesn't react badly to the unexpected gesture*

Hi everyone! Hope everyone had a more productive day than I did.

ShadowRider>> yes, Troopers is based on Heinlein's novel. I've only seen the movie. I hear that the show follows the book better than the movie did. I hope that you eventually get to see the show. It is very, very good.

FireStorm>> Thanks for the update on Troopers. It'lll be great to see it aired in proper order. I didn't realize that Sci-Fi was airing it also.

Crzy>> I already _KNEW_ you were addicted to the show! =p

SJ>> Click the link below for the Ask Greg archives on StarShip Troopers. According to what Greg has said, one of the reasons for the episodes being shown out of order was ue to delivery problems. It may have had something to do with having 2 CGI companies working on the show, I don't know. Anyways, check the archives for everything Greg's had to say about the show's production so far.

Kit>> You and Doug..as well as everyone else in here have my thanks for the many prayers and well wishes. So far, so good for now. Had another blood test done today. My white blood cell count is still a little high, but dropping at least. At least I feel okay for now.

Well folks, that's about it for me tonight/this morning. Everyone take care and don't the bas**ds get you down. Just keep a smile on your face and a killing look in your eye! LOL
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 03:12:51 AM
IP: abd7590d.ipt.aol.com

*laughs wickedly as he watches Wilek blast Mister DC into the Netherworld*
a Typo Demon - [<----tunes]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 01:21:16 AM
IP: pm6-8.nidlink.com

**TERRIBLE DC DEATH!**

[Mr. Disconnect is leaving his work place, wherever that is, and striding through the parking lot to his car, hoping he won't be noticed...and nearly has a heart attack when he sees Wilek manipulating the remote of a radio-controlled steamroller, commanding it to crunch DC's car. Of a moment, it's nothing more than shards of metal and glass. DC, more concerned for his life than his car, drops his briefcase and runs screaming in the other direction, but he's not fast enough--the steamroller runs over him next, and crunches his legs from the thigh down into a pulp of ground beef and splintered bone. Wilek backs the steamroller off of DC, grabs a long and sharp piece of metal from the wreck, strides serenely over to the suffering hacker, and whips out a Genesis cartridge with a very familiar name. Wilek: "I presume you recognize this?" DC: "The...Gargoyles video game?" Wilek: "Uh huh." He then produces a Genesis console about the size of a Dreamcast controller. Wilek: "And this?" DC: "The Genesis 3?" Wilek: "Uh huh. Mind telling me why this isn't compatible with this?" DC: "Same reason it can't be emulated." Wilek: "Just to tick off game-loving little blue gargies like me?" DC: "No, it's an anti-piracy thing! I can't help that that shoddy little redesigned console can't play it! I didn't do this! Now get me to a hospital or something!" Wilek: "You can't fool me, dirtbag. We both know that you're responsible for pretty much every electronic problem in human history. You planted the bug in ENIAC, if I'm not mistaken. Or one of those other big vaccuum-tube mainframes they used to have back then, I can't be expected to keep track. But it doesn't matter. You made this incompatible with this and made me find out the hard way, so this <brandishes metal shard> will now become intimately acquanted with this <gestures at DC's crushed broken body>. Wilek slices open DC's torso with the metal shard, then nails his throat to the asphalt. He then takes out a spellbook and recites something in Latin, whereupon a small tornado picks up the pile of shards that the car has become, picks up DC's near-corpse, and uses the former to shred the latter into kibble. The spell abruptly ends, raining flesh and metal onto the blacktop.]

**END**

Warpmind> <<something scary just happened... the monitor started blinking on and off... I didn't touch it or anything...>> Uh oh. Last time I saw that happen, I later smelled smoke coming out the vents and heard a sizzling coming from the circuit boards. Fortunately it wasn't my monitor, but still...

Selanit> Geek Pride> Ooooh...I would *love* to be able to attend this...One thing, though: on the list of events is a 'Linux install'. <blink> Why is installing an operating system considered spectacle enough to be listed at a convention? Or is it so difficult a procedure that it takes an entire convention full of tech experts to pull it off? ;)

Shadowrider> <<As it was broadcasted for the first time, it had everything: large audience, good reviews and so...but it ended! And, in the same time, shows that are very worse have continued! I can't believe it!>> That, my friend, is what the entire fandom has been screaming at Disney since the show's cancellation...

Mecord> $<> Ah yes, the blood sample. <hehehe> DM is *quite* adept at covering his tracks... >;)$ <<Ever study Freud�s method of dream analysis? ;)>> The man was a complete and utter crackpot if you ask me; anyone who sees phallic significance in the fact that most weapons are hard and straight (it's aerodynamically efficient, not a subconscious dominace thing!) should be locked away for a good, long time and/or sterilized in the interests of evolution. Besides, the man was afraid of *ferns*. Yeah, there's an inspiring guardian of psychological hygiene.

Matthew> Welcome! :D Surrender your sanity, and don't take the blue pill...

Mutates> I like to think that Sevarius hadn't yet figured out interspecies compatibility at the time he created them. Of course, later models...Although they're probably still fertile, but genetically incompatible; if they'd both been crossed with the same animals, they might have been able to concieve a child.

Archwolf> <<We are striving for the lowest possible quality on television. If we dull out the masses (present company excluded), it is easier to rule them.>> Don't I know it. <sigh> If this continues, then in a few years all television channels will have become nothing more than a view of a toilet flushing over and over accompanied by a laugh track...

Sushi> Eccchhhh...I hate fish enough when they're cooked, but *this*...

Coyote> Ludwig Van bit> Sadly appropriate, somehow...

Skippy> <<Pardon me if I say HUH? I seem to be missing part of this conversation....>> :) The Onion ran an article a while back implicating George W. Bush in the ritual murder of some cult or other, if I remember correctly. (The cult's symbol was a seven pointed star, hence the interest.)

Kitainia> <<They were on the West Mall today damning all cartoons as being awful stories with no redeeming value that corrupt youth. Shap, Doug, and I argued the opposite viewpoing with them using Gargs as an example of a show that wasn't like that. They immediately started calling the show a "glorification of demons akin to Pokemon" once we mentioned who its main characters were and then they wouldn't listen to us when we tried to make them see it was otherwise.>> <blink> What...?! That...that...<twitch twitch> <maniacal laughter> Their eventual fall will be *sweet*...<<wish we got the Japanese version if it's as good as Robby says, but no! <growls>>> I've heard a lot of things about it; most of them good. All I can remember offhand was something having to do with Bandora (the Japanese Rita Repulsa)'s son being involved in her giving up evil (either that or her entering into a pact with Satan to resurrect him; I forget which, but I know that show was very myth/theologically oriented)...of course, I'm probably remembering it wrong (wish there were some web sites about this show). I think it was 'Americanized' because the network execs figured American audiences would never watch a dubbed live-action show with all Japanese actors. They were wrong, at least in my case and probably in the case of everyone else here. <sigh> Granted, the special effects were kinda cheap, but the story made up for it.

**RP!**

[In the Quencher's shuttle...Khesaat: "You do realize that this craft belongs to what we suspect is one of our most powerful enemies." Dark Mage: "Oh, yes. Which makes me wonder, why you object so to me taking it for my own." Wilek: "Because you're also one of our most powerful enemies; we only keep you around because it's easier to keep an eye on you." The infernalist wizard prepares a snide retort, when he seems to hear something, something that the others can't..."I would like to continue this little game of ours, but I'm afraid I have more important matters to which to attend." He disappears in a poof of black mist, and reappears in his quarters, wherein is seen a pair of mist-filled open black coffins. He finds the werewolf blood samples he took a few weeks ago, pours one into each coffin, closes them, and speaks into a communicator: "Get the boxes out of here and to a secure location. I think the dogs have acquired my scent." The caskets vanish in a red light, and the conjurer grins evilly and opens a book bound in human skin. "And now to take care of the trail..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:58:03 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

**RP HERE**
~ This madwoman is quiet � annoying � ~

Parry, parry, slash, parry, cut �

~ Damn � but she's not so much as flinching � she's just getting more angry � ~

Parry, parry, parry, duck, stab, roll �

~ This is going � nowhere � sigh � flesh of Nurgle � its rancid stuff will keep regrowing � and a collar of Khorne � no sorcery is going to help � and that - Gah - ~

Clang, grimace, stagger, dodge, parry, feint, dodge �

~ And that elf she just stabbed doesn't look too good either. ~

Parry, parry, dodge �

~ No sense stabbing ~

Parry, parry, parry �

~ That air-lock between the sections looks sturdy � maybe � ~

**Pause RP**

Green Baron: I DID consider Orange � but that's not an Italian color. ^_^ Btw, I too thought PCU was a must-see movie. :-)

Mutates Reproduction: I really think it could swing either way easily. I'm sure Sevarius wanted to be able to create a master species of some sort � and a requisite for being a true species is for the members to be Viable (aka, able to reproduce). I think it would really be up to Greg to tell us whether or not Sevarius had reached that state in his development when he created the Mutates. If he was still in the rougher stages, they are probably sterile. If Sevarius put a little more time and effort into perfecting his work, they probably aren't.

SJ: It is a wonderful act, isn't it? He's very talented if he can get that many people irked at a fictional character.

Got a little link down here, possibly the Only decent thing off of Salon ever discovered � but it was rather impressive to here a libertarian out there in that mess. Plus, the statistics might interest you � I mean � how many people know that 55% of the gun-deaths that people in the US incur are suicides?

**Resume RP**
Dodge, dodge, roll �

The Seeker suddenly reversed his grip on his sword in his next parry and pulled his opponent's weapon to the ground. Suddenly, his left hand whipped up and struck the Quencher open-handed square in the nose. The Quencher just snarled in indignation, preparing to haul up her weapon and finish off the insolent mortal.

"Snake-eye Flash!" the Seeker yelled suddenly, his hand bursting into blue-white Ki-flames.

The Seeker grimaced in pain, the Quencher screamed and raked his hand away from her melting/regenerating eyes. Seizing his opportunity, Kaioto swung his trench coat tails up over his opponent's head and ripped it off his shoulders, hauling down and slamming her to the deck. A swift kick to the head with a steel-toed boot and Kaioto was off and running.

Still, it barely bought him enough time to punch the airlock controls and roll under the dropping barrier. Kaioto regarded the outer console of the air-lock mechanism with a grim set of his face. Gritting his teeth, the Seeker of Truth slammed his fist through the console and grabbed a handful of wires � then he yanked.

A satisfying sputter of dimming lights around the airlock preceded a bone-chilling scream and deafening pounding on the metal of the airlock. Kaioto raised an eyebrow in disbelief. She was actually denting the barrier �

"Not bad for a reject from a sport-drink commercial," he noted as he turned on his heel and ran towards the nearest lift. "Maybe someone on station staff can help me put her on the wrong end of an External air lock �"
**END RP**

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:47:15 AM
IP: 141.133.151.90

**Mecord enters looking for Kitainia**

Ah, there you are. I read your post and couldn�t help but give a long response. :)

Kit>> <Read your fanfic. Thought you did a good job on it. Your portrayals of Elisa and Hudson were right on IMO, and the development done on them was excellent.> Thanks a lot, you have no idea how much that means to me :) <Nice job on writing the other characters too, and while your plot was a bit confusing at first I'm glad most of it got resolved at the end in a believable way that fits into the Gargs universe. :)>< Er, I mean, everything was resolved in your story except what you left for Part 2.> I hope this doesn�t upset you, but really nothing much was resolved in Part one. I didn�t want to give it all away too soon, so some of the conclusions the characters draw are incorrect. Part 2 will actually leave the Garg universe for a time. My original idea was an X-men crossover, but I discarded that notion. Part 2 will prove to be a difficult piece, I only hope it will live up to the reputation Part one is building. <Especially liked the emotional bits,�> Those were not easy to write and emotionally taxing let me tell you! <�and the dialogue (which had a few editing errors, but those can be excused since it was still a really good story).> Archwolf mentioned errors as well, would you mind if you pointed them out so I can correct them? This way I can improve my writing abilities. If you can I would really appreciate it. If not, don�t worry about it. <Keep up the good work, I hope to soon see more stories from you. :)> I have a book length adventure planned for Brooklyn and� Oh, can�t give too much away now can I? ;)

<Don't know what these dreams are supposed to mean> Ever study Freud�s method of dream analysis? ;)

<the world does have plenty of unjust laws> Did you know that up until the late 1970�s in Missouri it was legal to kill Mormons? It remained from an extermination order back in the 1830�s. A dark passage in U.S. history that became forgotten and unnoticed for almost a century and a half! Oh the things we learn in Utah schools!

Thanks for lending an ear Kit. :)

**Mecord strolls out.**

Mecord - [mecordlein@mailcity.com]
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:39:41 AM
IP: usr1.mtwest.net

Fire Storm> <<Few people actually write [Fire Storm] correctly>>: So I have heard you claim, which is why I felt like apologising.
<<it was worse than that for Newark to the hotel in '98>>: Who needs New York? It's all about Jersey. You know, Jersey is the only "New" state for which the New is optional.

Aaron> <<a black Eva pilot suit under his coat>>: Aren't they largeish, then shrink? And I'm sure it's possible to make them in other sizes (Yui Ikari anyone?)
<<the blonde doctor>>: But Ritsuko is the closest thing to a nerd (side note: we just saw Revenge of the Nerds here, and are most likely going to make some tri-lamb decorations), but then, I did only see up to episode 12 (0:6)...
<<The Band play a big part in the Animaniacs Woodstock version of the "Who's of first" sketch>>: Yep. One of these days I need to see The Last Waltz (a film of their "farewell" concert, with *major* guests)

Shadowrider> <<according to the current status of science, mutates are supposed to be sterile>>: What we could do now, most likely. But it all depends on how careful you are. If each new one you make replaces the same DNA segments with the same "new" segments, I see no problem with cross-fertile mutates (probably wouldn't work with any of the sourse species, though).
<<it had everything: large audience, good reviews and so...but it ended>>: That's because American executives don't care about foreign markets.
<>: Not really a surprise. It was supposed to be "Engineers are only requred to take one semester of English." Of course, since we only took one semester of English...

Silverstar> Well, he is teaching English...

Green Baron> <<It was called PCU and it was a riot>>: Umm, was that a pun?

Warpmind> <<No problem with being a priest and enjoying the company of females, is there?>>: It just depends on how much enjoyment.

Archwolf> <<the genes that Magee passes on to the next generation would already be contained in her ovum>>: Right, but it all depends on how Sevarius changed the DNA. If he used a catalyst that got out of their bloodstream, I would assume it could change gametes.

Cyborg> <<Reboot, Shadow Raiders, even Insektors were superbly done>>: And there's always Sal and Harv.

Kitainia> <>: What, the cleavage?
<<though I like Journey>>: That amuses me for a suite reason. (look for Jeff at http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~mjbrown/friends.html I live with Tom, Tim, Jeff, Justin P., and the site owner, esentially Aaron, and Eric, and anyone in front of a brick wall (and Mohan) is at RU (see if you can find me (hint: I'm the ugly one))).
<<Not sure what [mutate children would] be like>>: If Sevarius was careful about the recombinatorial DNA, they should have the same traits as their parents.
<<Crips>>: Shouldn't that be Crypts?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:18:36 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

DumaloX> I'm very sorry to hear of your loss and you have my greatest sympathies. You were one of the first members of this clan to welcome me here when I posted a year and a half ago. We all love you and we're all here for each other. *hugs*

Kit> I haven't posted a pic because my dad is taking his sweet time installing our scanner. But it's coming soon. That's so sweet of you to call me beautiful cause of SMG, but we both have long noses :) As for Brooklyn in an exotic calendar...how bout on a Harley? Grrrrrrrr...

GB> Thank you very much. It was a lot of stress.
SOROW
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:44:35 PM
IP: dll2a020-0501.splitrock.net

Mecord: Er, I mean, everything was resolved in your story except what you left for Part 2. <sighs> Sorry, my mind's in another place tonight. If you want, I'll give you feedback again when I'm more coherent. Night.
Kitainia
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:27:51 PM
IP: pool-209-138-207-118-dlls.grid.net

**RP HERE**

On the Avatar of Ganon, a small group of guards searching the station spot Kaioto and the Quencher fighting and start firing at them, yelling for them to cease and desist. "Shut up!" the Quencher yells instead, then compeletes her latest Demon Chant and throws a storm of fiery black energy bolts at them. The wounded guards scatter, screaming in pain. Kaioto ignores them and keeps parrying the Quencher's swings. "Give up now," he tells her. "I'm not in the mood for fighting." "Too bad," his enemy chuckles. "I'm always in that mood!" Kaioto sighs as she continues to batter him down. Against her fury and her strength, which does not ordinarily surpass his but does now due to his fatigue, which the Heavenly Elixir Warpmind provided him did little to reduce for more than brief moments. Still he is able to parry most of her attacks, regenerating damage from the few that get through and returning them with his own blows. Any wounds the Quencher takes, though, seem only able to increase her rage, and as the fight goes on, Kaioto wonders what he will need in order to win. Possibly, he thinks, I'm going to need help.

In another part of the station, Agent Rho is debriefing some of the people Warpmind told about the Quencher when they saw her arrive. "So the Realmsfarer said this demoness was the Seeker's dark twin?" he asks. "That's right," Teri Laughton nods. "I'm not entirely sure what he meant by that, but it has to be something bad, doesn't it?" "Something very bad," Rho frowns. "Judging from what the Seeker can do to heal and destroy evil, if the Quencher has equal power to do the opposite of such things, she could tear the station apart if she thought it was a good idea!" "We better get her off the station," Anoth says from beside him. "And quickly. Either that or find something that will allow us to kill her. Perhaps Wilek is doing that now, since he's on her ship." "Or perhaps not," Rho muses. "I doubt a powerful evil being such as the Quencher would leave information about her weaknesses just lying around." He thinks for a moment, and then says, "I have a plan that may get rid of her. It will take some preparation, though. Until things are ready, we must keep the Quencher distracted. Teri, you and Jake find the Realmsfarer, and debrief him. Anoth, you help them in any way you can, we must learn all that the Realmsfarer knows about this demoness. I am particularly interested in whether or not she needs to breathe in order to live." "We'll find out," Jake declares, then walks off with Anoth and Teri just behind. Rho meanwhile turns to a sinister figure in a hockey mask, large hat, and dark trench coat. "Forfexx, you..." "I know," the psychotic Halfling interrupts. "I find the Quencher and keep her busy by showing her what pain and injury really mean." He snickers and then disappears into the wall. "Yes, that's about right," Rho answers his absence with a smile, and then turns to his command console, where he begins to make the preparations for his plan.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everybody. <rings bell and sighs> School's back in, spring break's over. Once again, I'm feeling bad. <sighs> And not just cause of the return to college, I knew that was coming. Mainly my bad feelings right now are because of...you guessed it, DumlaoX's loss. I too mourn the passing of our absent friend's father, and pray for Dumlao in this time of mourning, sharing what I know is his sadness even though I and most of the others in this room may never talk with him again. <sniffs> Losing a parent can be a terrible thing, I haven't suffered it yet but I know it's going to be hard when I do. Just as I know it is hard right now for Dumlao. I hope he somehow becomes aware of the friendship we all still have for him, and the pain of his that we share. <wipes tears, tries to brighten up> Okay, guess that's about all the sympathy I can stand for now. It's still there of course, but I want to talk about something else. So, I guess it's on with the post. :)

Recent Media: Good X-Files last night. Didn't develop the overall conspiracy plot much, as usual :(, but at least it had some excellent CSM development and a good script. Nice dialogue too, and I liked what was done with Scully. I can only hope that they keep this level of quality in the show (and also wrap up the various ongoing plots in a better way than they did the Mulder's sister arc in what was hopefully the last episode concentrating on it) with however many episodes remain. :) Simpsons and Futu-rama had their usual low level of quality on Sunday, lower than usual for Simpsons (not going into detail since I think no one cares). As for Fox's new show, Titus, the first episode of which played tonight, I don't think it was that great. Some of the character bits were nice, but the plot was a downer, and the jokes, while occasionally surprising, made me roll my eyes and growl more than I laughed. Hopefully the show will either get better or quickly fade away <apologies to any CR dwellers who are fans>.

Robby: Eating gargs was of course one of the topics that disgusted me last week. Thanks so much for putting an end to it. (Hopefully it ain't gonna come up again, ever.:( )

Warpmind: I too am glad you were able to handle that cop, sorry I didn't say so before. Hopefully he'll settle into his new job quickly, if not...well, I guess the local crooks will have someone to be afraid of, won't they? :) Provided he starts going after them instead of the nice rebel guys like you who aren't really a threat to anyone who doesn't deserve it. :) Thanks for the nobility comment, and the Summon Coffee spell idea. Man, I wish I could cast that now. :(

Kaioto: Thanks for explaining so much about the minimum wage to me, I'd never really thought about its effects before. But then, given what I know about economics vs. what I should know...:( I'm glad you and the Baron were able to help me know more about the so-called dismal science, especially politics' part in it. Thanks again. I now am more encouraged to remember how important it is to think about all the possible RL consequences of one's views before one decides for sure about them. :) That, and one needs to make up one's own mind about a lot of things instead of just assuming something is good or isn't. That advice applies in politics especially, and your rant about the media (which I hate to say I agree with :( ) only enforces that fact. <sigh> $ <I'm on hiatus from RP> Oh. Well, uh, okay. Hope you don't mind Doug and me borrowing your RP character for a little while, it's just that Warpmind said you were the only one who could beat the Quencher and we want her plot arc wrapped up within good time and not just ignored for a long while like it was looking to be. :( Don't worry, we're planning to have your character disappear like you want once the Quencher's dead and we won't need him around immediately anymore; and I'm sure you won't be fighting the Quencher alone. :) $ <The Rock for President> Hmm, the way you put it, I think I might want to vote for that guy. I definitely agree with him on the Taiwan issue and loyalty to the people more than I do Bush and Gore. Too bad he can't run. :( Yet. :)

Green Baron: The above paragraph applies to you as well, the minimum wage part of it anyway. :) Thanks for the explanation, your words are as usual right on the money. I personally have never liked unions, they are good for getting workers benefits and all but in every job I've had where some of my co-workers are union they've always tried to turn the worker community into cliques and ostracize anyone who doesn't belong to them. They're too much like exclusive clubs, and I don't like that. :( If workers didn't have to join them to get what they wanted, it would be so much better. (Note- I have joined unions in the past, I'll admit it. But I've never liked them, especially when they're full of jerks, as most unions I've known unfortunately have been. <sigh>)

Aaron: Thanks to you too, for adding the minimum wage bit you did. <Elvis and Beatles people> I too can not see why people should be judged by that. I personally like both bands, though I like Journey, U2, Duran Duran, and Faith Hill a lot more. The Stones are good too. :)

Cyborg: Yep, you're right, descriptions are nice to know. Thanks for starting the topic, I was glad for the chance to post mine even though I didn't remember having the idea to myself. :) <frowns> You don't get Spring Break? What is wrong with your college? Don't they know how much students need it? <shakes head> Oh well, I guess you can live with it, right? Hope it remains that way, good luck. :(

Garg Dreams: Haven't had too many myself. Most of them I can't talk about in here either. <grin> But as for strange ones, well, I have had a few of those. Like the first time I saw Turf, after I went to sleep I had a dream about the Trio chasing me down on motorbikes. You don't want to know how it ended. :) Then there was the time I dreamed of falling, only to have Thailog (yes, Thailog, not Goliath) save me. Then before anything could happen we got attacked by an army of Steelclan robots and just as Thailog was handing me off to Xanatos (who was hovering beside him) so he could fight without having to worry about me, and Xanatos was about to fly away somewhere with me, I woke up. Don't know what these dreams are supposed to mean, but they are nuts, aren't they? I've only had one that was stranger than the latter- I was guest at a celebrity deathmatch of Macbeth vs. Jesse Custer from Preacher comics. Jody (also from the Preacher comics) was helping Mac, and Demona was helping Jesse. I don't even remember who I was cheering for, let alone who won. <sighs> That was a long time ago.

Demona Taina: Welcome back! Interesting ideas for what to do if Gargs returned with new episodes. I'm not sure I would go that crazy about it, but I know I would put on my gargoyle costume and terrorize the local chapter of the Christian Reich idiots while laughing maniacally. (They were on the West Mall today damning all cartoons as being awful stories with no redeeming value that corrupt youth. Shap, Doug, and I argued the opposite viewpoing with them using Gargs as an example of a show that wasn't like that. They immediately started calling the show a "glorification of demons akin to Pokemon" once we mentioned who its main characters were and then they wouldn't listen to us when we tried to make them see it was otherwise. Can you believe it? <sighs>) Then maybe I would glide over the offices of Disney or whatever company brought it back and drop a few thank-you notes. And of course my friends and I would celebrate the occasion with a party that lasted till the rising of the sun. :)

Christine: Dang, I'm really sorry we won't be able to attend the Gathering now! Even more than I was before. :( Oh well, we can at least still read the book when it's released afterwards, right? Make sure you keep at least two copies reserved for us, okay? :)

SOROW: Oh, yes, the visions of seeing Brooklyn on Timedancer are wonderful. <grin> Too bad there's little chance the show will ever be done outside of TGS (though we can still make the calendar if they do more good art of Brooklyn in exotic places and times this season :). I didn't know you looked like SMG, why haven't you posted a picture? Oh wait, better not, that'll just make the guys drool. Let your true beauty remain Joe's little secret for now. :) BTW, if anyone's curious, I too resemble a Buffy actress- Emma Caulfield. At least according to Doug. :)

SJ: A Blade sequel? Alright, I can hardly wait! Thanks for the info on it, and the synopsis of Fox's new lineup too. I don't know if any of those shows will be that good, but I'm going to check them out anyway and see. I'll be hoping for the best since it doesn't look like WB (the only other network that still does Saturday morning cartoons) will have anything better. :( Some of them, like Power Rangers (wish we got the Japanese version if it's as good as Robby says, but no! <growls>) I'll of course still be avoiding, but the new things I am willing to see before I judge. $ BTW, congrats on your triumphant return to the RP. I loved what you've done with Kari and Sammael. :) $

Katara: Congratulations on surviving that time in the hospital, and what caused it. <sudden trips to the ER are hard to plan for> Doug and I guess we'll just pray you don't have to go back any time soon, will that be alright? :)

Shadowrider: I'm doing fine, except I'm a little down now that school's back in and Dumlao's lost his father and all. :( Having friends like you makes me feel a little better. Thanks for the compliments, I'm glad we agree on leather jackets and TD.

Fascism and Ignorance: I too despise these things in all its forms, religious especially. I'm upset to hear they're so common in Montreal. :( Of course, they exist in America too and the rest of the world. <sighs> Doesn't matter where they are, I still hate them something awful. I'm sure I don't need to go into the reasons why.

Bengal Tiger News: This shocks me. What kind of uncle would bring such an animal into his house, let his nephew play with it, and then want to keep the thing even after it nearly kills his kid? What is this world coming to? If there are more people out there like this guy (any parents especially), I may just have to start thinking up another awful child-family relationship theory- the "We don't care about our children" (wish I could think up a better name) syndrome. I bet we can all guess the symptoms of that. :) Basically it's putting something else before the welfare of your child, whether it's your pet (as in this Bengal Tiger deal), your expectations (we all know about this), your career (this too), your religious or political beliefs (examples- parents who expect God to cure their child and don't take him to a hospital when "God helps those who help themselves," parents who ostracize kids for having the wrong political views, etc.), or anything else really. Yeah, if a parent gets too devoted to their kid, it can be really bad, but if they're not devoted at all and are putting their devotion on something else instead, that's IMO even worse. I'll go into this more next post if you people want me to, I'm too tired right now for another of my famous psychology rants. :) As for the tiger, I too hope that the government is able to either destroy it or release it and all such pets into the wild where they belong (I too agree with your comments, Jannie). Also hope that the guy who bought the thing is punished somehow for what happened to his brother's son. Isn't reckless endangerment of a child, especially a young relative, supposed to be a crime?

Firestorm: <Man selling his baby> What?! Now this is completely unacceptable. Who does that jerk think he is? He can't just bring a child into the world and expect to offload it on someone. Raising your child is your job, not anyone else's, unless of course they are better suited to raise the kid and if that's the case they shouldn't have to pay so much for the privliege. Jeez! <sighs> I really hope they hurt this guy bad. That, and Michigan revokes that stupid law it has that allows this, especially since it borders on practicing slavery. :(

Of course, the world does have plenty of unjust laws. In Jordan, if you kill a female relative who "dishonored your family" you usually don't even get punished for it. They interpret dishonoring one's family very loosely of course, I read in yesterday's paper that this practice has let jerks kill their sisters/daughters/wives/etc. just because they kissed or flirted with somebody the family didn't like. One girl was even killed by her father because she was pregnant, and get this, it was later found that the father was the one who put the child in her. He didn't even get punished. What is wrong with the people in that part of the world? <sighs> King Abdullah is doing all he can to try and make laws against this practice that will be enforced, but finding it suprisingly difficult. Apparently, the Parliament of his country is reluctant to mess with something that can be justified by Islam. Can't human rights, freedom, and dignity also be justified more by Islam, and aren't they more important than tradition? <mutters> I hope the king is successful, and send him my prayers. That's all I have to say about that.

Jaden: You liked Mission to Mars? Funny, Doug and I thought it was boring, stupid, and one of the most cliche-full sci-fi thrillers we've ever seen (though Star Wars ep 1 still has it beat). And you liked it. <shrugs> Well, to each his own, I guess. I'm glad someone enjoyed the film at least. :)

Mecord: Read your fanfic. Thought you did a good job on it. Your portrayals of Elisa and Hudson were right on IMO, and the development done on them was excellent. Nice job on writing the other characters too, and while your plot was a bit confusing at first I'm glad most of it got resolved at the end in a believable way that fits into the Gargs universe. :) Especially liked the emotional bits, and the dialogue (which had a few editing errors, but those can be excused since it was still a really good story). Keep up the good work, I hope to soon see more stories from you. :)

Jenna: Also read your poems. They were a bit short, but good. Nice emotions in them. <grin>

Drunk Gargs: Brooklyn and Demona I can see it happening with. Sata, only because Coyote did it in his one story and it was good. :) Hudson also, since it probably happened a lot with his friend Angus in DA. I agree that Broadway, Lex, and Angela are a bit too innocent for it and Goliath would probably never have the need to since he has other ways to channel his emotions. Not sure about the Cold Trio and Thailog, though I do have creativity demons with them being drunk that get a bit too rowdy for this room. :)

Happy Belated Birthday Denis! Hope you had a good time on it (and will have one when you and Jannie meet).

Theresa: Sorry to hear about the power outage, glad it ended, and welcome back. :)

Talon and Maggie: I agree with Christine, knowing how twisted Sevarius is he'd definitely make them able to have kids no matter how much research it took to find a way. :) And such children I would probably also classify as mutates. Not sure what they'd be like, but hopefully they'd be able to survive.

Coyote: Sorry to hear you're still getting heavy workloads, I guess I'll have to keep up the prayers till they end. Let me know when it happens so I can smile some, alright? :)

That's about I can put down for tonight, I've gotten too tired for more. School does that to a person, I guess. :( I suppose I'll go back to living through it now while I wait for the new season of Timedancer on Thursday. See you all again, soon, alright? Hope DumlaoX somehow finds out how we feel about his loss, and that we're still his friends, even though he's left us behind. :( Later!

**RESUME RP ACTION**

In one part of Los Angeles, the Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts and Reverend Atilla walk out of the church into which they teleported to find themselves in the middle of South Central. As the doors swing shut behind them, the local chapter of the Crips comes round one corner screaming things that amount to: "How dare the local Blood commander spam us and send me e-mails advertising gay porno sites and calling us all drugged-up wussies!" The local Blood commander and HIS gang come around the other corner screaming accusations that the local Crip leader did the same things to THEM. People run off the streets screaming in terror as the gangs refuse to think about each other's comments and instead start shooting each other. The police are nowhere in sight. "Trouble!" one of the Scouts shouts as they are caught in the crossfire and forced to drop flat on the street. "No kidding," Reverend Atilla mews. He and the Scouts crawl into a nearby alley to get away, and find it's a dead end. "This is not good," Atilla mumbles as he realizes they're trapped between a wall and a full-fledged gang war. When they will be able to get to the Ravens, God only knows. (GB, the gangs are yours. Have fun taking care of them, alright? :)

Elsewhere, on the city's freeway, Jammer and Boris are working together to keep the Onslaught level as they drive it and the ground beneath them shakes with greater and greater tremors. "We can't take much more of these!" Boris states the obvious. "How much farther till the Nielsen Building?" "Too far!" Kit sighs, looking at the downtown LA skyline a great distance ahead of them. "Especially since we don't even know what building it is!" "I suspect we'll find out when we get close enough," Doug conjectures. "Provided of course we survive these quakes." Just as he says that a particularly large tremor shakes the ground beneath the Onslaught and the overpass on which it is driving crumbles and falls out from underneath it. Only Lathrop's timely levitation spell lifts the truck to safety on a still-intact part of the freeway, while several other unfortunate drivers who were trying to get out of the city fall to what is probably their dooms. "We need to stop the elemental that's doing these quakes," Lathrop says as Jammer gets off the freeway onto a safer feeder road that is still shaking with tremors but not able to fal out from under them. "Yeah," Keith agrees. "We're never going to get anywhere with him tearing up the road like this. I mean the Onslaught can handle a lot, but..." He stops speaking and cringes as the truck starts going over a large series of bumps created by the quakes. Jammer gulps with each of them. "Who summoned these stupid elementals anyway?" Tricia asks as she and the others are likewise repeatedly shaken about. "Someone who has it in for us or what?" "Has to be someone who has it in for us," Stephanie replies. "Who else would subject us to all this trouble?" "Uh, guys," Shap says suddenly, "don't look now but..." "Don't tell me," Kit interrupts him. "Another elemental is right in front of us." The paladin nods and the Ravens all turn to see a hugely muscled fifty foot bald giant made out of dirt and rock pushing his way out of the ground. The earth elemental then starts stomping towards them, all of Los Angeles in a half-mile radius shaking with his steps. "Guess we gotta battle this thing now," Doug sighs. Gubio nods in agreement and begins pushing the buttons to transform the Onslaught into robot mode. Lathrop then enlarges it with magic so it will be big enough to face their latest enemy. "Good thing my spells will be more effective against an earth elemental," he then says. "Dirt isn't quite as resilient as water." "Thank goodness," Orion agrees. "I shall call the blessings of God down onto this battle just in case." "And I shall prepare another powerful psionic ray," adds Mewthree, who then begins to meditate while Orion prays. Elena looks at Doug once the Onslaught is fully transformed and says, "I'm going out to fight it beside you. Might be good to give that thing more than one target, you agree?" "Okay, but be careful," the Ravens' leader tells her. Elena nods that she will, then jumps out of the truck's door and shapechanges into her Liberation Angel form. The other Ravens prepare spells or take control of the Onslaught's new weapons as the earth elemental reaches them and begins to attack. Nearby a huge giant shape made out of fire and smoke leaves Beverly Hills and also starts heading for the Ravens at great speed, setting everything it steps on aflame as it goes. How the team will defeat both elementals at once (if it even can) will have to be revealed next post.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Kitainia
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:12:04 PM
IP: pool-209-138-207-118-dlls.grid.net

Green Baron<< Skippy> Well, the Onin is more a humor source, though it's obvious Bush didn't really kill those people :)>>

Pardon me if I say HUH? I seem to be missing part of this conversation....

Skippy The Klingon
Monday, March 20, 2000 10:42:11 PM
IP: uv1cisco02-17.ultravision.net

DumlaoX > I'm very sorry to learn of your loss; sympathies to you and yours.

Aaron > much as I love Tim Curry as a villain, I don't envision him as a proper Solarrin. In gnome-form, I'd want Solarrin to have a slightly grumpy and peevish voice for all he tries to be menacing; post-Bostitch, he'd need a fabulously deep rich booming one. Like, oh, say ... Keith David? Woo!

Warpmind > I don't play computer games, so I know nothing about any companies. It's not something to which I've ever given any thought.

Crzy > oh, of course, how could I forget? But remember, they wouldn't _dream_ of charging! Offense to Talopea and all ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:54:14 PM
IP: 05-046.009.popsite.net

Sorry for the second post, but I just checked out the "Geek Pride" page, THIS IS GREAT! If I were in Boston on April 1st, I would most definitley attend. I think they are undercharging for the bathrooms though, $100 seems a little cheap to me...
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:40:50 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

DumlaoX: My condolences for your loss

Archwolf: I'm a Yeats fan too. I especially enjoy those of his poems with mythic imagery like "The Riding of the Host". I used to have all of his poems collected in soft- copy, but I think I lost them in a crash:(

Starship Troopers: "The CGI animation is wonderfull" I don't know about wonderfull... I might be spoiled because I've seen so much better. I'm no specialist, but I think the problem might be in thier wire- frames: the human's faces don't seem to move quite right.
I have not seen many of the episodes, but from the ones I have seen, the story lines are usually high- quality, which is a rare thing in this blockbuster age. Might just be Greg's influence;) Then again, Heinlein was one of the greats of the golden age.
(P.S. Mainframe Inc. were the ones who spoiled me in regards to CGI. Reboot, Shadow Raiders, even Insektors were superbly done. Click on my name- link to go to their page.)

Well, time for my 3000 mile check- up, see you later!
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:29:29 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

A bit lighter quickie this time ...

Saw Wilek and Gside's conversation on Beethoven, and this happened to occur to me. I'm sure everyone has by now seen or heard many commercials from the Census Bureau, telling how filling out your census forms helps your community, right? The most high-profile of these is the one that details an overcrowded school (it aired during the Super Bowl initially). As the backdrop music it uses Beethoven's Ninth, final movement. But not just *any* arrangement ... the one the U.S. Government so *cleverly* picked happened to have its origin in something you don't want associated with schools ...

... the arrangement was first used in "A Clockwork Orange."

Does anyone else find this disturbing? Hell, every time I see the commercial I get this unconscious urge to don a bowler hat, fake eyelashes and eyeball cufflinks and go strap on a little of the ol' ultraviolence ...
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:28:43 PM
IP: zzz-209252248081.splitrock.net

***BEGIN RP***
Sammael, Dyspare, and Kari huddled together in the shuttle as they slowly moved away from the Avatar of Ganon. When they were a modest distance away, Sammael brought the shuttle to a stop.
"How do you know how to pilot a shuttle? I thought you were just a demon?" Kari asked.
"I am," Sammael replied. "But like I said before, I think when I took over, a part of SJ's mind merged with mine. I seem to remember some of the things he knows. One of them must be how to pilot a craft like this."
"Anything else of his you remember that might help us out?"
"He seems to be quite fond of kissing you. Do you want me demonstrate?"
"Touch me and draw back a stump."
"He seemed to remember you'd say something like that."
Suddenly, Dyspare interrupted them. "Wait a minute....how the hell did we wind up out here?"
"Plot hole."
"What?"
"Long break between RPs. Big ass plot hole."
"Oh....is that Quencher demon still after us?"
Sammael checked his instruments. "No. No, I don't see anything. Which means it's probably still on the station. With any luck, it'll be taken care off, probably by that Seeker that was on board."
"So what's our next move?" Kari asked.
***PAUSE RP****

No, it's not the end of the world, that is an RP at the top of this post. Actually got off my ass and wrote one this time.

Again, I say we get some sort of e-card together and send it to Dumlao. I'm not sure where to find one of those....can someone drop me his email addy, though? The very least I can do is send him an email, but I don't have his address.

***Entertainment Stuff!***
Some potentially disturbing stuff out there. First off, apparently Martin Lawrence, of all people, has signed on to star in a new movie where he fights monsters and ancient Greek gods. It's supposed to be a cross between Clash of the Titans and Ghostbusters. An interesting mix, but c'mon, Martin Lawrence?? At least you could have chose Chris Rock or something. Oh well, I'm sure wacky hijinks will ensue.

And from my Stuff that Pisses Me Off file, they're thinking of remaking 13 Ghosts. Never heard of it? It's an old 50's horror flick done by William Castle. He was the guy who had all the gimmicks, like vibrating seats and crap...he was big on camp, and the movie is pretty campy itself, but it's one of the first horror flicks I ever saw, and it's terribly fun for me. I HATE it when Hollywood remakes movies. It's a sign of an industry completely bankrupt of any new ideas.
****END ENTERTAINMENT STUFF****

Kaioto: I loved your Rock parody! Damn, I'd vote for The Rock in 2000. We need a president who can lay the smackdown on the country's problems. BTW, don't you love how everyone can't stand the Rock, when they have NO idea that it's all just an act? Damn, he's working that gimmick well. Then again, I'm a Rock fan.

BTW, speaking of the Rock....he is in FINAL negotiations to star as the "Scorpion King" in the Mummy 2!!! Apparently, the Scorpion King is one of the main baddies in the flick. To all the Rock detractors, cheer up, he's not going to be in as much of the movie as I'd like. Inside 411 on the script make it seem as if his role will probably only really get heavily involved in the film in the last half or third.
I love this though. Again, to those who didn't read Kaioto's post, the Rock is a wrestler....which means he's an *actor*. And as such, this is the biggest break of his career, and I'm happy for him.

As for Jesse Ventura....The question was raised, is he smart enough to be governor. To that I answer--have you ever heard the guy speak? Put a wrestler in a movie if you want, just don't stick them in a political office. (Except for the Rock. The Rock I can forgive for any political blunderings ;)

VERY disturbing X-Files news: In a recent interview, Gillian Andersen has stated that she really doesn't want to do another season of X-Files....Duchovny has voiced similar feelings. There has been talks about the show continuing for an 8th season with different actors, but in all reality, the show may indeed end with this season. Here's the scary part, and the part that really disturbs me--according to Anderson, there's only TWO more episodes of the season to tape. That means that if the show ends, it'll end in those 2 episodes....and we've seen somewhat of a deficiency in "mythology" episodes this season. If the show ends this year, which it very well might, we could wind up with a very rushed ending to it all. Gillian sure didn't talk as if any episode up until these two unproduced ones gave any sign of closing up any of the plotthreads. So, we may wind up with 2 episodes trying to explain away 7 years worth of show.

Starship Troopers: I have officially boycotted this show due to the severe lack of continuity. It's a great show, with solid writing and excellent animation (why can't Max Steel use CGI this well?). However, I refuse to watch a show this completely disjointed. One episode they're hunting bugs on the Moon, the next they're somehow teamed up with another alien race (the Skinnys, I believe), and no discernible connection between the two plots can be found. I blame BKN for rushing the show before it was completed, and now still showing the episodes so far out of continuity. I love Gargoyles, but if Disney had pulled crap like this, heads would have rolled.
Shadowrider: Yes, Starship Troopers the animated show is based upon Heinlein's classic, with a few elements of the live-action Troopers movie thrown in. The tv show is more faithful to Heinlein's original novel than the movie was.

Maggie and Derek's kids: I agree with the statement that the two are quite possibly sterile. Most mutants, or mutates, are indeed sterile due to their condition. If they indeed could reproduce....well, let's just say that I wouldn't want to be there for the birth. Regardless of whether or not Sevarius completely restructured their DNA, he did enough tampering for me to believe any viable offspring would be horrifically mutated. They would not be human under any definition, and would probably not be able to survive due to whatever abnormal status I'm sure they'd be born with.

Sushi: Yeeeeeech! God did not make man to eat meat raw! Me, I like my meat well done. Burn it until it's black! Plus, I don't trust eating anything raw nowadays. Even fish. God only knows, with the pollution of our oceans and rivers, what kind of parasites live in the water that could be in Mr. Charlie Tuna.
Then again, I can't stand fish. Or most seafood, for that matter. Give me some good ol' red meat anyday. A big, thick, juicy cowburger....mmmmm......Oh sure, I'll die of congestive heart failure by the time I'm 35, but at least I'll die happy ;)

***RESUME RP***
Sammael sighed. "Time to be totally honest. Mephisto sent us to the Avatar to set things up for the Shattering."
"What's that?" Kari asked.
"At a certain point in time, the planets align themselves perfectly. If a certain magic ritual is cast at that exact moment, the gates of Hell will be opened. 'Shattered' if you will."
"How does the Avatar factor into this?"
"The Avatar will be aligned between the Earth and the Sun. Hell is *inside* the sun. Mephisto sent us to take over Avatar, and unleash it's energy reserves into the Sun. This would cause a tremendous amoung of energy to surge into the Sun, giving Mephisto all the juice he needed to open the magical gate. The Avatar would also double as a doorway through which the demons could enter this reality."
"But you didn't sabotage the Avatar."
"No, but it doesn't quite matter. Mephisto will still attempt to open the gate, and with the Avatar in position, he just may do it, regardless of the extra energy or not. We have to somehow move the Avatar out of position, or otherwise the gate will be opened."
Kari looked at him darkly. "Are you suggesting--"
Sammael nodded. "Yeah. We're gonna have to knock the Avatar out of orbit."
****END RP FOR NOW****
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:16:52 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

*A soaking wet Archwolf walks into the room, then shakes off his fur. He looks at the calander on the wall, which has only one thing written on it: TDDay-2...arg..three more days till Time Dancer.* Sorry if i soaked anyone. Been raining here.

*He pulls out a new Epee. The blade and bell gaurd are both shiny and unused.* On the happy side, I managed to get ahold of a spiffy new Epee blade, and got it all wired and assembled (correctly) in one try.

Mutate Breeding> I don't know mutch about Genetics (beyond Punnett squares and whatever else we learned in Highschool Biology) but since both Magee and Talon were originaly human, things should be ok. Actually, only Talon's mutaions would be taken into acount, since the genes that Magee passes on to the next generation would already be contained in her ovum. Since they are built (for lack of a better word) before Magee is born, they would not be altered.

Mec>At least you GOT a spring break. I had a total of two days. Of course, it was my own fault, since I lost the rest to fencing (we had Regional Championships to prepare for), so I won't complain either.

DumlaoX> You have my condolences.

Shadowrider><<And, in the same time, shows that are very worse have continued! I can't believe it! >> That is the way things work in the 'States. We are striving for the lowest possible quality on television. If we dull out the masses (present company excluded), it is easier to rule them. At least, that is what I THINK is giong on. Who knows.

GeekPride> Hm...I wonder if my sister would be willing to give me a room if I go.

Starship Troopers> STILL have not managed to catch a single episode! Always too busy!

*War Frost walks carefully over to Katara and lays down next to her. He playfully, and very carfully, nips at her and looks at her hoping for an ear sctritching*

****RP AHEAD*****
A silver flash lit up the hangar bay. When the falsh subsides, there is a large Werewolf standing there, with some smouldering fur. "Stupid witches. If it is a danger to _us_, it is a danger to them, too." A bark from War Frost gets Archwolf's attention. He sees the form of Mecord on the floor, lying in a pool of blood. "Ooopps. Guess I was gone longer than i thought. Those dumb fey cousins of ours..." He walks over to the injured elf, and is surprised to see him actually moving. Archwolf looks over at the dire wolf. Well, Grandpa, lets finish healing him, and get out of here...I can smell the evil in the air." The Were- and Dire- wolves crouch around the semi conscious elf. One paw and one massive hand-paw reach out. A moment later, there is no wound on the elf. Archwolf, however, has a small scratch on his torso over his heart. He helps Mecord stand up. "Sorry bout the delay. Family maters. Anyway, whats this about sampling my aura?"
The elf looks down at himself, then at the lightly wounded garou. "Huh...teach me that one, will you? Oh, yeah. Well, sampling an aura is a bit like taking someone's DNA, only on a magical level. You can clone a person and manipulate their..."he paused, looking for the right word" attitude. You can also modify them, combine them with other things better than you can with genetics. Now, the rest of my party is looking for the person who may have done it, and I suggest we find them." Mecord paused, sure he heard Archwolf call War Frost Grand pa, but He would have to quell his curiosity until they had more time. "It is getting dangerous around here...again." With that, the Elf, Dire Wolf, and Werewolf left the hangar.
***End RP***

Wel, I'm going to get back to readin Yeats poems. Good stuff.

Shade and Sweet Water, all

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 09:06:23 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Sorry for the triple post people!

Atzel>
Just wanted to know if you wanted to be called Arvid or Atzel?

Well bye!
silverstar
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:51:09 PM
IP: l1p44.dav.mother.com

Hello again!

I know these are kind of late but I just read last weeks CR room and had to post!

Green Baron> I'm glad that you have decided to settle down (is that the right word to use)and have a family. I don't plan on having one but I still have plenty of time to decide.

Warpmind> <No problem with being a priest and enjoying the company of females, is there?> No.

Doug> Thanks! I know that a lot of my friends hate ignorant people and would, too, gladly beat them to a bloody pulp. As a matter of fact, I think one of them did in our Freshman year of hs. Unfortunately, one guy that I still talk to(but not for long)is ignorant and a comlete bigott!(sp?) I would have that that by the end of our Junior year of hs that he would have matured and opened his mind, but NOOO! I actually think that he has gotten to be more of a fascist, racist, bigott! He is okay to talk to IF you want to gossip. BTW, I just want to inform you that he is one of my guy friends that is a 'suspected gay'. (I think that is why he gossips so much)

Also, I just wanted to say that I don't mind that my Spring Break isn't for another two weeks(thank goodness it's not still three), because I still have to prepare for my best friend who is coming down during that week.

Atzel> Hello! You remind me of someone(thinking look on face) OH YEA! You remind me of me! (grins) I am such a 'Gargoyle' fanatic that people called me 'Gargoyle Girl'. Luckily for me, we moved. I was going through major 'Gargoyle' withdrawls when they cancelled the show. The good thing though is that I recorded many tapes full of eps. Bad thing is, I didn't record as much as I wanted to. I have approx. about 16 hours of eps. That's only because my mom recorded over one of my tapes (it had City of Stone on it) so that cut down on my 'library'. Hope you can find someone who has them all recorded! Oh, and sorry for rambling on like that. (smiles) Have a nice time in the CR and don't get anyone *too* angry. I've noticed that sometimes you have to watch what you type.

*BYE!*
silverstar
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:46:56 PM
IP: l1p44.dav.mother.com

Green Baron:> Hi! I'm sorry that you already heard my joke before. I'm preparing another bunch of jokes to mail to you. I'll send as soon as I can. St. Joseph's day? Well, I know a little about how St. Patrick's day is celebrated in U.S.A. (most of what I know I learnt by movies and Stephen King's books), so, as far as I know, I can tell you...no, St. Joseph's Day is not as important. Or, better, the Church celebrates adequately Jesus' stepfather, but it is not a public holiday. In some regions of Italy (especially mountain ones) there's a tradition to lit up at sunset big fires in towns' main square, and celebrate with wine, cakes and songs the end of winter, but that's all. Oh, I was forgetting, St. Joseph's day is also artisans' holiday, the Pope usually meets some of them in Vatican.
See you!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:46:24 PM
IP: h255-20-33.mi2.albacom.net

Do you ever have one of those days when english just doesn't want to function properly no matter what medium you conduct it in? Gaw ... I hate typos ...

Jesse Ventura is, of course, from Minnasota, next to my Lexy-chan's Wisconsin. Montana does not have "Moose and Squirvel" in it either, I'd suppose. I can picture the geography perfectly, and I know them by site and name ... but for some reason my fingers wanted to type out Big Sky Country instead of the Midwest ... Weird ...
Toku Kaioto
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:45:40 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Hello all. Greetings and good cheer.

DumlaoX> My condolences for the loss of your father. May he find good company with my grandparents.

Shadowrider> I've heard that one, before. Is St. Jospeh's Day as big in Italy as St. Patrick's in Ireland and the US?

Warpmind> Youc an set up the European Rifle Association. Switzerland would be a good model of more guns and low crime :) I bet lots in England would love to joine an ERA :)

Gside> <<You could say that you are giving up your time>> That works :)

Naimhgold> <<Long live the green! But do you have Celtic cross buckles on your little black shoes and a matching one on your hat? :)>> No, but my official Green baron outfit will have celtic crosses at the lapels to hold up the cape. I just need a cape now.

Silverstar> No, I pretty much realized God wants me to have a family. I intend to be a Deacon though.

Skippy> Well, the Onin is more a humor source, though it's obvious Bush didn't really kill those people :)

Sevarius Jr> <<Happy Get Drunk Day! If you're an Irishman, by now you should be in the early stages of alcohol poisoning and be unable to read the remainder of this post.>>
I'll have you know I didn't drink a drop on Friday :p

Kaioto> If you posted in orange, I'd reprot you to Cardinal Law :)

Mecord> It was called PCU and it was a riot!!!!

Wilek> If you wantto get rid of soemthing, get rid of cockroaches. I like escargot!

Coyote> Well, if you think about who Aldonza was, its easy to see Mariah Carey in the role :)

Doug> I see a need for a minimum wage, even though I don't liek regulation generally, but I think now, it shoudl be tied to the CPI and there shoudl eb differing standards for differing states, like NYC would need a very diffenrent min. wage than Podunk, Arkansas. I guess it is regulation that could be called a necessary evil.

I don't think McCain was worng in his comments, but teh forces of evil thing was a sign of too much Star wars and he rescinded that comment. Bush may also set teh Christian Right to teh side. I think he may simply be using them to get the GOP nomination. He needs to get all the Reagan coalition together and reach out to some newer groups, especially McCain's guys. Luckily for Bush, he hasn't received money from China or a Buddhist temple :)

Welocme Arvid. We have another squarehead in the CR :)

Aaron> <<"Why do the French eat snails and frogs? Because those're the biggest animals a band of frenchmen can run down and kill." >> Attila will love that comment :)

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:13:55 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Dumloa> I am truly sorry you lost your father. I know it won't stop the hurting you feel right now, but love resonates and endures. You will feel your father's love for you for the rest of your days.

Starship Troopers> I have to admit I was wrong about the show. At first I didn't like it, but it's grown on me. If BKN or whatever banjalo is in charge would just play the thing in order it'd be golden.

Mutates and children> I'm just dropping in, so I don't know what the question precisely is or the point of discussion. But as far as the mutates having kids and what they would be, I'd say it's a crap shoot. As I understand it, Sevarius rewrote their DNA. Initially they were human and the code got altered to include other animal features. The DNA in every cell wasn't rewritten, just specific parts. The mutates still walk up-right, still possess memories and high brain functions of a human. How extensive those DNA alterations go is anyone's guess. My own guess is that if Talon and Maggie had kids they'd be human, but that doesn't mean it'd be trouble free.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:10:32 PM
IP: 242.santabarbara-02rs14-15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net

Starship Troopers> It seems great, and I tape it every day but the problem is, the Sci-Fi channel seems to be showing the episodes in random order :(
It's a little hard to keep track of the storyline when in one episode T'Than is in the squad where in the previous day's episode he hadn't joined yet and in tommorrow's episode we see him joining the Roughnecks.
Matthew - [MattS1@aol.com]
New City, NY, USA
Monday, March 20, 2000 08:00:36 PM
IP: 98a9b8b0.ipt.aol.com

**A bleary eyed Mecord materializes in mid-air and falls into an easy chair.**

Spring break is over too soon. One of my mid-terms was canceled a couple weeks back and rescheduled for tomorrow. I hope the Prof. doesn�t expect us to do better because we had the entire spring break to study (I would worry about the students who spent their entire spring break studying, a little I can understand and did myself, but the *entire* break?). The class is about the U.S. gov. and is grating my nerves the way most politics do.

Starship Troopers>> Starship troopers is in my personal top ten animation shows of all time. I had to change the category from cartoon to animation because it can�t technically be called a cartoon. My favorite Character is probably Higgins or Goss. I�m glad they�re going to be played in order.

DumaloX>> You probably don�t know me, but most of us here know about you and feel your loss.

Wilek>> $I should probably remind you that Archwolf is still searcing for your evil twin. He sampled the werewolf�s aura or some such a while back. I guess the consequences could be dire for his kind.$

****WARNING RP****
In a currently unused hanger and invisible dragon and a direwolf waited for their friends to make an appearance. A single pinpoint of light flashed into the hanger and hung in the open air. A moment later the light was replaced by a large female dragon with four Elves riding on her back. The Elves leaped to the deck and the dragon morphed into a dark haired girl that looked no more than ten.
Lithanne eyed the wolf, �That looks like the dark wizard�s pet.�
Warfrost cocks his head as if listening to something then nods.
�That�s Warfrost,� Mec peers into empty space, �Bardic? You and Warfrost can communicate? I see. Well you can search for that mage with him if you want. I have another mission to attend to.�
�Bardic is here?� Senthet asked.
Mec takes a small pouch and dumps a pebble into his hand. The pebble instantly grows to a head sized gem wit an indeterminable color. The mastergem pulsates with energy. A beam of light shines over the invisible dragon. Slowly, a pony sized golden dragon becomes visible to everyone in the hangar.
�Ah, thank you young Elf,� Bardic states.
Mec returns the Gem to his pouch, �I restored your magic reserves as well. I suggest if you want to find the dark mage, that you find a less conspicuous form. The rest of you spread out and find the Illuminati. I�ve been asked to wait for Archwolf�s arrival.�
�Who?� Thicarrn asked.
�An ally I met my previous visit.�
Everyone separated to attend to their separate tasks. A short while later Mecord heard the sounds of some kind of battle. Then there was a surge of evil power. Mec ran to the hangar�s exit. A female figure barred his exit. She was beautiful in a deadly sort of way. She brandished a wicked mace.
�I am the Quencher of Life!� she cried.
Mec ducked the blow meant to take off his head. He didn�t see the knife in her other hand. The blade slid expertly between Mecord�s ribs, piercing his heart. Mecord slumped to the ground. The Quencher laughed and left in search of her previous quarry.
(Is Mecord truly dead? Of course not, tune in next time.) :)
****END RP****

Well back to the books.
**Mecord leaves.**

Mecord
Monday, March 20, 2000 07:53:22 PM
IP: usr31.mtwest.net

Dumlao> *sighs* I'd like to add my condolences. :( Sorry that I can't do or say more, but I don't do death well on an emotional level. I'm sorry.

Wilek> *lol* That's a Hoot! Though, I will make an important note about the practical applications of the Rock as a political candidate. The Rock is an act performed by an actor and entertainer. In real life, he is a quiet, well-dressed, thoughtful individual who can carry on an intelligent conversation with a lot of charisma. That, combined with his physical presence, fan-base, and acting ability would make him an interesting politician. He'd also be an outsider. It is Weird, but it makes sense �

As for Jesse Ventura � no � I honestly can't say I know how intelligent the governor from Montana is � all I know is the man is definitively tactless to the point of self-destruction. Self-destructive and politicians � I Love that combination. ^_^

Selanit: Wow, that would certainly be something to do on a Saturday night in Boston � *thinks about it*

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Monday, March 20, 2000 07:38:51 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Hello and a good Monday to ya' all!
(hears groans)
Okay if you have had a bad Monday, then I hope that Tuesday is better for ya'!
My Monday was very tiring. My teachers are so stupid! I seriously think that my English teacher is on somthing. He starting yelling at this guy because he was talking to his friends. It was in the beginning of class and everybody was talking. That teacher *must* be on something!

Starship Troopers> I watch the show every now and then, (mainly because it comes on at 6:00 am)and I find that it's actually a good show. Yet they keep showing the same six episodes over and over. Well at least it seems that was because whenever I "tune in" they have an episode that I have seen about three times before. I do thinks it has a good plot though, and they graphics are okay.

Rock> I don't really like the Rock that much. I saw him on Saturday Night Live and he was wearing a dress. I don't think I'll ever look at him the same way.

Well I gotta go now!
Have a nice day! :)
silverstar
Monday, March 20, 2000 07:26:19 PM
IP: l4p40.dav.mother.com

Just a quick message for now ... I'll come back with more later ...

DumlaoX, ye have my heartfelt sympathies in your time of loss, friend. And I can relate, barely two months ago I lost my grandmother to a long-fought battle with heart disease and emphyzema.
I can tell you this much, though ... if it makes you feel any better, I'd imagine our respective passed family members have come together in the afterworld ... and if your father's anything like you (at least, that I know from the CR), my grandmother is certainly making a point of being nice to the newcomer.
Ye have our support, whenever you need it, friend.
Coyote the Bando
Monday, March 20, 2000 06:51:55 PM
IP: zzz-209252248081.splitrock.net

Dumlao:> I don't know you, I'm quite new here, but I extend you my condolences and my wishes for your family in this moment of pain. My thoughs are for you.

Mutates and else:> Well, I asked to a friend of mine who is studying biology. I have understood about a half or so of what he told me (I suspect it is a revenge of him fo the last time I discussed with him about aerodynamics...), but he told me that, according to the current status of science, mutates are supposed to be sterile. The fact that the mutates of "Gargoyles" have been created starting from different species' genes makes it even more probable. Anyway, if Maggie and Talon happened to have children...well, they could be considered mutants (human beings with a genetic code that is different from usual) as well as a totally new species (whose classification is supposed to be VERY difficult).

Jenna:> Your story about the gargoyles T-shirt is funny...but is also making me go nuts. I mean, Gargoyles as a TV-show has ended three years ago (as far as I know, what is broadcasted are replies, and only in U.S.), but has still a wide audience, not only in this Room, but everywhere (Speaking with some friends of mine about this Room, I discovered there's a lot of people who still remember with pleasure the cartoon - and in Italy the last reply ended in 1998!). As it was broadcasted for the first time, it had everything: large audience, good reviews and so...but it ended! And, in the same time, shows that are very worse have continued! I can't believe it!

Sorow:> The Mummy: Oh, yes, now I recall. Actually, "The Mummy" was in Italian theaters some months ago, but had very little success, so they took it out after a week or two. I had no choice of seeing it, so I don't know the scene you quoted. Perhaps I'll go and seek the tape, I'm curious to see that scene.

Gside:> <<We onli gots too take won simister ov Inglesh>> Whoa! Do really engineers speak this way there? ;) (I'm joking). Well, in Italy too there's a lot of jokes about engineers' "language"...(BTW, I really wasn't able to figure
out what that phrase could mean...) :)

Katara:> Starship Troopers? Well, in Italy nothing about it has arrived yet, so I know nothing about that series. What is it about? Is it maybe somehow inspired to Heinlein's masterwork?

Ci vediamo, pischelli! :)
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, March 20, 2000 06:23:24 PM
IP: h255-22-14.mi2.albacom.net

Quickie

Dumlao X: I'm new here, but I understand what you are going through. You have my deepest sympathies.
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 04:38:23 PM
IP: ncia100n.ncia.net

Aaron wanders in, wearing a black Eva pilot suit under his coat. (Yes, I can still fit into clothing made for the average 14 year old. I hate being short)

Spent my day off on a NG:E marathon. Ive gone from thinking I had a handle on the show to being really confused, (Everything NERV does is a reenactment of the Dead Sea Scrolls? WTF?) but I don't care because Eva 00 is repaired and my favorite character Rei can get out and kick Angel @$$ again. Plus, Misato b!tch-slapped the blonde doctor, and Shingi briefly developed an attitude, admittedly with terrible results.

BTW, has anybody noticed that Commander Ikari's second in command is almost a dead ringer for Grand Moff Tarkin? Weird, ne?

Pistoff> Well, I know I'll be voting for Jello Biafra come November. I'll vote for anybody who supports banning SUVs.

GB>Well, as I always say to vegetarians, "Great! More steak for me!" and I was really thinking that PETA would object to forcing innocent lions to eat so far outside their natural range of prey, The Ghost and the Darkness not withstanding. And when you mentioned escargot, it made me thing of that old joke "Why do the French eat snails and frogs? Because those're the biggest animals a band of frenchmen can run down and kill."

Christine>If Curse of the Shadow Beasts went musical, would you get Tim Curry to be Solarrin? (A large shape begins to materialize behind Aaron) I mean, Solarrin, Archmage of the Universe. (The shape vanishes) After all, he can sing, and he plays a mean minotaur. (Okay, the thing is Legend isn't really a minotaur. Close enough)

Dennis> Happy birthday.

Gside> If I recall, The Band play a big part in the Animaniacs Woodstock version of the "Who's of first" sketch.

Geek Pride> A matrix-inspired nerf shoot-out. Man, I wish I could get to this thing.

Dumlao X> If you're reading this, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, March 20, 2000 03:32:58 PM
IP: ppp-339.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Brian Dumlao> My condolences to you and your family.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 02:48:29 PM
IP: dialin-566-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Gside: <f you can't recover your data, I could AIM or ICQ you what you want. Let me know if worst comes to worst.>
I want my e-mail records for the past 3 months! :)
<Let me start by apologising for messing up the spacing/capitalization in Fire Storm last post (at least I got it correct once)>
Don't worry about it. Although I did miss your previous post to me, I caught up with it and read it.
(As for the spacing/capitalization in my name, don't worry if you miss it. Few people actually write it correctly. (And it pisses me off that you can't override that in Word)

Warpmind: <Yeah, well, if you do come to get some water here, make sure you don't accidentally suck in some frozen seamen while you're at it. ;)
Oh... you make it WAY too easy!

Christine: Your ideas on the mutates seems pretty accurate. I could just see him design a water-breathing dragon-looking greature and crossing it with Maggie. :)

Coyote: <Ye refer to the Hyatt in the Somerset Place Mall complex, right?>
Nope, I was refering to the Hyatt at Fairlane mall, but your place sounds a bit better.
The only problem is distance from the airport, but would that really be a problem? It was, what, 12 miles from Dallas-Fortworth to the Hotel in 1999, and it was worse than that for Newark to the hotel in '98, so it may not be a bad plan.
Hmm... although getting the com people from Somerset to Greenfield Village may be a problem... rent 3 or 4 busses?
<Oh, and I believe that the Hyatt has its own shuttle service, if I'm not mistaken.>
That shouldn't surprise me, but it does.
<They cut the scrambled eggs in strips, chill them, then lay 'em on clumps of white rice and wrap 'em in seaweed bands.>
Hmm... sounds kinda good. (I usually don't like scrambled eggs, but when I make them for someone else, I usually steal some :)

Shadowrider: <Well, they're not mutates, for sure...their DNA has not been altered...>
I guess they would be termed "Hybrids"

Katara: Thanks for reminding me about troopers!
Starship Troopers will be played IN ORDER starting May 15 on BKN and Sci-Fi.
BKN will play all episodes Monday through Friday, and Sci-Fi will play Monday through Thursday (Friday episode will just not be played)

Only thing I do not like about the Troopers animation is the way alot of the human movements seem... well, just badly done.

SJ: <Is there something we can do for Dumlao? Maybe some sort of e-card we can all send him, with our names attached?>
That sounds like a great idea! Where do we sign up for those, anyway?

DumlaoX: I know your father has been suffering for a long time, but now his suffering is over.
Just remember that your second family in the CR's are here for you.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, March 20, 2000 02:23:08 PM
IP: t3-94.visitus.net

Random question: Is eden or remus better for distributing my mp3s?

I extend my greatest condolences and best wishes to DumlaoX.

Wilek> <>: She is only a clarinet in the same sense that CtB and I are Tenor Saxes.
<<<<Foxtrot, right?>> <blink> Huh?>>: I seem to remember that flying attack porcupines was a gag in some comic. Upon further reflection, it seems more likely to have originated from Calvin and Hobbes.

Warpmind> <<��>>: That was generally what I was thinking of.
<<there are some embarassingly easy typos with the qwerty keyboards>>: Same as there would be in any layout. As long as two keys are next to each other, there is a great chance of unintentional typos.

Selanit> Link: I might go if I wasn't afraid of being crowned HGE (Holy Geekan Emporer).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Monday, March 20, 2000 02:19:28 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Hey, just dropping by with a link to an amusing site.

Clickies! <grin>

Pity I'm not in the Boston area . . . otherwise I'd go. <grin>
Selanit - [selanit@atuan.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 01:03:26 PM
IP: halifax.lancs.ac.uk

Hey! * ^_~ *
Man! Gotta do some catching up!

Warpmind> LOL Thats good, I dont want you asking for sports cars for christmas or something thinking I'm filthy rich! :P

Hehe Those little Rock skits are funny...peronaly I like Weilks ending better...that Rock guy gets on my very last nerve!!!! :P

Hmmm...We got oficial rules now?! hey, I should read those some time!....but not today! Cuz I'm Late!!!
I Have a grand total of 5 mins. to haul @$$ all the way to the other side of campuse!!!...why am I wasting time saying so!!! See ya guys!!!! *HUGZ for all!!!*

*runs out*
Caliope
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:48:10 AM
IP: 136.145.83.183

Katara - Troopers is a GREAT show. I haven't been addicted to a show like this since Gargs. EXCELLENT characters.. KICK BUTT story. If you guys aren't watching it... you are seriously missing out. I am royally MIFFED that we won't get to see the end of the war. :P

Brian D. - You know I love ya to bits kiddo... If you need anything... just ask. My prayers are with you...
CrzyDemona - [<-- that art stuff again]
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:43:57 AM
IP: 209.150.94.73

Dumlao: Let me also say that I am very, very sorry for the loss of your father. I am ashamed to say that I don't know you a fraction as well as many others in here do, but I do know that you loved him immensely and this loss must be very hard for you. Remember that we are all here for you, always. We are a Clan, so when one feels pain, we all feel pain. And we're here to comfort you, if you'll let us.

Everyone else: Is there something we can do for Dumlao? Maybe some sort of e-card we can all send him, with our names attached? I wanna do something to cheer him up, let him know we're all here for him and that we care.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, March 20, 2000 11:41:46 AM
IP: 164.106.134.5

DUMLAO - I'm sorry to hear about your father as well, and send my condolences.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, March 20, 2000 06:39:08 AM
IP: 216.87.46.106.dialup-stl.primary.net

Sorry for double post folks....but had to apologize for all the typos in my last post. Is what tends to happen at 1:30am. Huggs to all, just for general purposes

Katara
San Diego
Monday, March 20, 2000 04:52:55 AM
IP: 98ce7a4d.ipt.aol.com

**staggers in,, trips and stumbles into the wall. She slowly slides down the wall and becomes a limp, barely moving heap on the floor*

<<belatedly posts in green in honor of St. Pat's Day. Too bad this isn't the same shade of green I used on my hair for work on Friday. *wishes the color came out better in the polaroids. LOL)

CRIPES!!!!! I totally _HATE_ having to work so much overtime. Last time I was able to check the CR was...I don't know when, sometime before Friday. I've had so darn much to catch up on everywhere! *shrugs and sighs deeply* oh well, on to replies....

Starship Troopers>>I don't know how many of you are following this show..(grins in Crzy's direction) If you aren't, you are really missing a great show. Last week we finally got to see the 2nd episode that Greg wrote as well as a couple more episodes that he did story editing for. I feel that this show ranks right up along side of Gargoyles. Although the episodes are aired out of sequence, the continuity and character development is IMHO outstanding. The CGI animation is wonderful. I have so many wonderful things to say about this show, that I'm at a loose for words. The old saying, "I may not know art, but I know what I like" seems appropriate. =]

Warpmind>> Summon coffee...puuuurr-fect idea. If that doesn't work, do you think you could come up with a never-ending, always hot, jusdt right combination of cream & sugarm, cup of coffee? I'd be willing to trade _almost_ anything for one of those! *wink-winks at you* Darn contact lenses, time to take them out! =p

Sorrow> Belated congrats on winning your awards.

GB>> no, I'm not actually Catholic, though my kids have celebrated 1st communion already. I do sometimes attend mass and try to follow a few of the practices. I'm not relly much of any organized religion as I tend to follow bits and pieces from various sects.

Denis>>belated happy b-day greetings.

Doug>> Would be glad to let everyone know in advance, but sudden trips to the ER are kind of hard to schedule. =] Thanks for all the well-wishes from everyone though.

DumlaoX>> Sorry to hear about your father. You have my deepest condolanses. **huggles**

**reaches into her bag and pulls out a package of Red Vines to replenish her sugar levels. Starts nibbling on her way up the stairs to collapse across the first mattress she sees**
Katara - [GargLover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Monday, March 20, 2000 04:47:48 AM
IP: 98ce7a4d.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind trots in, slightly grumpy.*
Hi, gang. Great news... NOT! Due to a power outage, the school's LAN server has had its date reset to 1988. This means that my account, and everybody else's, are inaccessible. And the SysAdmin called in sick. O'joy...

Sorow: No hard feelings. :)

Christine: These songs... *shudder* I don't know whether to look forward to the day this happens, or to fear the day with all my heart. ;) By the way, random thought: if you ever let the book be made into a computer game, which company would make it? :)

Okay, something scary just happened... the monitor started blinking on and off... I didn't touch it or anything... Maybe I've upset some spirits out there? Hmmm... Aw, well, it's working now...

Gside: Whad'ya mean, extra-English characters? The Norwegian keyboard layout is basically just the same as the US layout, with the addition of ��, and some rearranging of some obscure punctuation marks and stuff... And, yes, there are some embarassingly easy typos with the qwerty keyboards. Need I mention vf or xs? ;)

DumlaoX lost his father? Cripes, my sympathies, DumlaoX! *Warpmind's adopted chibis gather around DumlaoX to give him hugs.*

Wilek/Shadowrider: Regarding any children of mutates: In every text I've seen on the subject, it has been defined that one or both of the parents suffer a genetic alteration, which is carried onto their kids, and that kid becomes a mutant. In the case of the Mutates, well, the kid would medically be considered a mutant, as well.

*Warpmind looks over his shoulder, slightly freaked out.*
Yikes! I gotta go. Good thing I was at the end of my post anyway. Chow, gang.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, March 20, 2000 02:50:08 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Dumalox- hugz to you, there are no words...
jenna
Monday, March 20, 2000 01:34:59 AM
IP: cci-tx3c-236.rasserver.net

DumlaoX I know it is not possible to even begin to know the depths of your sorrow over losing your Father. We, your extended gargoyle family, are here if you need us. Sincerest condolences and prayers for your family on what must be a very trying time.

Theresa
Theresa - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Monday, March 20, 2000 01:28:50 AM
IP: proxy-393.public.rwc.webtv.net

**RP!**

[In Los Angeles, one of Solomon Brand's mutates, a sky-bluish gargesque with wings of ice, is busy using a psionically generated freezing wind to put out a fire started by the elementals' rampages while carefully staying out of sight of the human population. He spies another mutate, identical to him but with wings of fire, and asks him, "Where's Sol? I thought he'd be here to help clean up the mess those...*things*...seem to have left us." The other mutate replies, "He's sent Griffex and Mewthree to some space station he didn't even know about until last week. Apparently he thinks their staff will be of help here." "Hope Mewthree doesn't go psycho while he's there; projected neural burnout can ruin one's day. Wait a minute...space station? Uh oh..." "Don't tell me..." "I saw what could safely be defined as a UFO crash-land in the bay, a good distance offshore, at the hands, or whatever, of one of those creatures. I think Mewthree did away with it, from the look of the pyrotechnics accompanying its death. Hope that shuttle didn't belong to the station." Just then, the two spy Brand's black Lamborghini speeding by, in the direction of the ocean. The ice-winged mutate comments, "Probably he's off to meet our new allies." "Hope he doesn't have to fish them out of the bay...I'll follow him, you continue here."]

**PAUSE RP!**

$Doug> <<Please, if you want to, don't be afraid of disrupting other people's plans, or at least don't be afraid of disrupting Kit's and mine. Traveler used to do such things all the time and we never got that mad at him, did we? :) Plus, dealing with entertaining disruptions is part of the fun of the RP. :)>> Indeed? <Malkie laughter> Thanks, a great deal, for that and for the suggestions. ^_^$

Gside> <> You as well? I love that kind of thing. Patterns, symmetry, irony, resemblences (especially in art and music)...great fun. ^_^ <<my mother is a clarinet...>> <raises eyebrow> I would have paid a good amount to see *that* birth. <<you should have gone for plain hydrofluoric acid: the burns never heal.>> But with difluoric, the victim doesn't live long enough for that to be an issue. >:) <<French, Spanish, and such are good for getting the girls. Latin has a nice classical touch. German and orhter "barbaric" languages are good for scaring the people around you (and make great opera, chorales: Beethoven's 9th, Finale, mmm). And of course you need Japanese to get the true effect of the good RPGs and anime.>> True. :) I could never get into French and Spanish, but I love the others you mentioned. <<Foxtrot, right?>> <blink> Huh?

Kaioto> <<Imagine what kind of damage ANY political party could do with a candidate like that.>> Or sustain. <straining> Another...Rock...vs....fanfic...character...fantasy...taking...hold...can't...hold...back...[Scene: Nomen Tuum, the great gothic mansion of Halfling Anoth Mitaxis. Rock: "The Rock doesn't care if you have freaky powers in your corner. The Rock doesn't care if you have a big creepy house in your corner. The Rock's been fighting handicap matches all his life--" Anoth: "Your handicap, I presume, being your painfully apparent single digit intelligence quotient?" Rock: "Did the Rock give you permission to speak, Jabroni? I. Think. Not. You Do Not...interrupt the People�s Champion when he is addressing the millions--" At that moment, a powerful psionic force siezes his body and mind, so he cannot move, breathe, or even think (as if he ever could), only listen... "Wrong region of Europe. The surname is Mitaxis, not Jabroni. Greek, not Slavic. And the only person you are addressing is *me*, and I am relieved to say, I am not numbered among the 'millions and millions and millions' of fans you claim to have, and frankly, if you truly do have this many, then I despair for the future of the human race. And, by the way, even I am not pretentious enough to refer to myself near-constantly in the third person. <sigh> I tire of this charade, Mr. Rock. Perhaps an eternal stay in this quaintly-named 'Smackdown Hotel' of yours will teach you a sense of dignity." A gesture from Anoth, a wet snap, a heavy thunk, and the Rock lies dead of a broken neck.] Ahhh, that was therapeutic. I have my doubts as to whether Anoth would actually do this, but it was great fun to write...

Newcomers> Welcome! :D Surrender your sanity and don't feed the gators. ^_^

Shadowrider> <<Well, they're not mutates, for sure...their DNA has not been altered...>> Perhaps it could be considered to have been altered before their conception, via the parents' generative cells?

Dumlao X> Don't know if you'll see this, friend, but our sincerest condolences on your loss. :(

**RESUME RP!**

["This thing is officially giving me the creeps." This from Wilek, who along with Miriam, Khesaat, and several Borg drones, is exploring the Carcerian vessel. "Me as well," the leonine alien replies, "it reminds me of something from my homeworld's mythology, a cursed galleon that would sail the seas of sand at the necropolis at Kheaftus, marauding for innocent souls." Wilek: "Didn't know you were into mythology, Khesaat." "I'm not; this kind of thing is as well known on my world as Fred Krueger is on yours." He then notices a roughly rectangular piece of dark crystal, roughly the size and shape of a hardcover book and glowing from within, with letters of blood-red light in a strange and disturbing runic language. He scans it, then picks it up carefully and gives it to a drone. "See that the science department recieves this." The drone nods and leaves, just as Wilek sees a winged humanoid form in one of the darkened chambers. With a shaking hand he aims a handheld light at it...and finds himself staring into his own face. Dark Mage: "Greetings, brother." Wilek: "What are you doing in this thing?" Dark Mage: "I felt an evil power of this magnitude long before it landed here, long before any of you knew about it. I came here hoping to learn about it, hoping to exploit it...and there is *much* here that is worthy of my interest..."]

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Monday, March 20, 2000 01:01:30 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Hmmm...
a Typo Demon
Sunday, March 19, 2000 11:53:56 PM
IP: pm3-20.nidlink.com

I'd just like to extend my condolences to Brian Dumlao aka DumlaoX, one of the original TGS staffers, on the loss of his father this weekend. Brian was always one of the first people to lend support in a time of crisis and I know his quiet strength will help get him through these dark days to come. My thoughts and prayers are with you, Bri.
Spike
Sunday, March 19, 2000 11:30:17 PM
IP: ppp18-55.ght.iadfw.net

Top Ten! Yeah baby!
Infinity
Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:54:31 PM
IP: nltc-57-36.nltc.net

Top Ten!
SOROW & Joe
Sunday, March 19, 2000 09:52:31 PM
IP: dll2a030-1022.splitrock.net

I'm actually in the top ten? most likely not bythe time I finish this post...

I was out at this Sci-Fi Expo in Plano over the weekend. It was fun, especially how I took this friend of mine from the club and she's never been to a convention. She had a good time, I got another autograph on my painting (Richard Herd-minor Trek actor) and wasted a bunch of money on bootleg pornograhic anime videos :)

I did get the chance to sit in on a talk with Timothy Zahn and Shannon Baska (Decipher's Mara Jade photo model) Zahn was a cool guy, but all of the questions naturally revolved around his SW books. I must admit I haven't read anything else of his, but it struck me how illiterate most of the SW fans were of his body of work. Only one question came up about his non SW work.

I also ran into a bunch of folks who came up from San Antonio to the con. They were part of a Star Wars fan club and just came across as a pretty cool bunch. I know there are some folks from around that area in here, so clickon my name link to find out more about them...

http://welcome.to/swssa

Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, March 19, 2000 09:42:55 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-10.ultravision.net

Oh wow, I made the top ten!

EIGHT!
Cyborg
Sunday, March 19, 2000 09:18:23 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

TOP TEN AGAIN....do i get a prize this time? :)

Rodlox
Sunday, March 19, 2000 09:12:16 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Top 10?! O_o
Wilek
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:45:24 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Top 10!
Blue Caeru
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:42:30 PM
IP: spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com

4th!!!!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:29:16 PM
IP: dialin-1496-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**looks at buddy list and sees Robby nowhere in sight**

Hmm ... Top Ten, I suppose ...
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:22:52 PM
IP: zzz-209252248061.splitrock.net

SECOND!!!!!!!!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:22:13 PM
IP: 141.164.65.91

two things I forgot:

Pretty early for a wipe, no?

and
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:13:41 PM
IP: 165.230.28.138

Let me start by apologising for messing up the spacing/capitalization in Fire Storm last post (at least I got it correct once).

Atzel> I see you got my note.

Shadowrider> <>: It's probably a little better than all the other engineers over here. We onli gots too take won simister ov Inglesh (approximated from actual RU Engineering T-shirt).

Warpmind> <>: Yes you did, which is why I was wondering about qwerty and added extra-English characters (which I beilieve you need), since d/s is and easy typo with qwerty.

And wasn't I suppposed to change the mp3? Well, the couldn't you just imagine how wonderful the world can be? The new mp3 is Imagine by John Lennon.
Please note: for some reason, remus does not like me ftp-ing from my dorm, so the I am now using my eden account. Gunjack, the old directory (http://remus.rutgers.edu/~gside/temp/) still holds what you haven't told me that you have gotten yet (That didn't make much sense).

1st?
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, March 19, 2000 08:12:32 PM
IP: 165.230.28.138