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We've recently had a tragidy in our family. Yesterday, when I returned home from school, I found out our dog Max had died. They didn't tell me when it happened becuase they didn't want me to get upset at school. On Monday, he got gravely ill and they took him to the vet where they said he must of got ahold of some rat poison. The Vets started treating him and he got a little better for a while, but the next day my folks found out he passed away that night. My Dad took it especially hard because he really liked Max and feels responsible becuase he put some rat poison in the garage and sheds about 5 months ago. Max either got into the poison or caught some mice that where in it.

MOVIE SPOILER!!!
On the lighter side, I saw RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. Awsome movie. Smart, action-packed, complex plot, and phenomenal acting. Gee, I don't rember my "Matrix" reveiw being like this.

As far as saying that Tommy Lee Jones is "immobile", In recent films he's played roles such as a U.S. Marshal, a porale officer, and a U.S. Marine. Do you expect him to bend over and start talking out of his ass?
END SPOILER.
Tim P.
Sunday, April 9, 2000 08:40:17 PM
IP: bn821-01.wsc.edu

Top 5 Animated>
1. Gargoyles
2. Beast Machines
3. Digimon
4. Pokemon
5. X-men

Jaden> Good luck in the army

Newcomers> Welcome!

RP> While I don't participate, I do enjoy reading the RP.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Sunday, April 9, 2000 08:27:48 PM
IP: dial-195.ocis.net

**jogs in, garotte-ing DC as he does** That's for my connection problems on Friday night, jerk!!

Ahh let's see here ... much to catch up on ...

Jaden: Good luck in the Army, friend. We'll miss ya while you're gone, but at the same time we wish ya well.

ReBoot movie: Great news. Gonna be great once it hits the light of day, maybe we'll get to see what happens when the heroes go against Daemon. :)

ReBoot dislikers: Well, I've only got two words for ya ... "Season Three." The season that didn't make it to the States is what made the series great, because the 17 eps in the season all tied into each other and made the season into one big, long movie ... especially when you view them in sequence in one sitting.

SJ, re: wallet: You're gonna love this one ... I actually work with a guy who (honest-to-God) has the long version of "Bad MoFo" on his wallet. No lie, I've even seen it.

Voting: Be careful if ya vote for Darth Vader ... there actually *is* someone named Darth Vader in the United States. (He's a comic book inker ... or so I hear)

Samson: Welcome. Leave thy sanity at the door, friend.

Christine: hey, I knew there was a reason I liked ya, fellow "Alien Nation" fan!! :)

New Poll: Okay, let's see now ... **cracks knuckles**
Top five North American:
1. Gargoyles
2. ReBoot
3. G. I. Joe
4. (don't stone me) Power Puff Girls
5. Super Friends ... heh, I'm old enough to remember when they did the craft projects and magic tricks on *that* show! :)

Top five foreign:
1. Slayers (including NEXT and potentially TRY)
2. Macross/Robotech
3. Gundam Wing
4. (God help me) Pokemon
5. Trigun, on this list on the strength of its first four episodes (just picked it up this last week, good stuff!).

Okay, that's all from me ... see ya's on the other side! :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, April 9, 2000 07:43:48 PM
IP: zzz-209252248227.splitrock.net

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Anonymous
Sunday, April 9, 2000 07:28:05 PM
IP: bn821-01.wsc.edu

Good evening to everyone. I hope you all spent a good weekend. Mine one has been really not bad. Well, just a few replies today.

Christine:> Yeah, Tommy Lee Jones is quite motionless...<laughs>...and his characters are quite constant: in his last three-four movies (since "The fugitive") he practically played the same character, no more, no less! ;) And, speaking about motionless actors...what about Steven Seagal? He actually manages to speak without moving even his lips...;)

Doug:> I hope you're healed from the flu that Kit mentioned and that now you feel OK. An hydroplaning? Weez, I had one just once and it is enough for my life. Luckily, as it happened I had enough space to regain control without damage. Glad you like my names. I liked the cyborg and Wu names, both yours and mine.
Your real name sounds good to me, too. Doug is the short for Douglas, isn't it? <> Really? What a coincidence...:)

Poll:> My preferred animated series:

1) Gargoyles (needless to say)
2) Transformers (the early series...poor animation, but as I was a child, I liked it a lot)
3) Macross (or Robotech, as you like)
4) Batman TAS
5) Capt. Harlock (It is very old, but in Italy it is a mythos, in the real sense of the word)

Others? Well, in no order: Gundam, Talespin, Beast wars, X-men, Spawn. Cowboy Bebop seems good and it could gain top five, but I've seen just a few eps, so I can't judge by now.

Live Action?
1) Star Trek - TNG (Yes, I liked it, and I'm proud of it!)
2) X-Files (It is just a shadow of what it used to be, but the first four seasons gave me a lot of thrill)
3) SG-1
4) Airwolf (the first seasons)
5) Streethawk (believe it or not!)

Fire Storm:> Yes, in Aerosp. Eng department we also have a Van Der Graaf (sp?) generator. I once tried touching it. Funny, indeed. I felt...exilarated. Just a negative point: my hair remained straightened for the whole day ;).

Gside:> Bohemian Rapsody by Queen? Hey, Queen are my favourite band ever, and B.R. is their masterwork! Very good choice, really!

Niamhgold:> Whoa! It had to be a really "electryfing" experience, isn't it? ;) Oh, BTW, I'm glad to hear your frostbite is going better, and I hope you'll never experience it again.

<Yawns> Gotta go sleep. See ya!

"Se la terra è tonda e se il mare è blu
da che mondo è mondo il forte vince e non sei tu"
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, April 9, 2000 06:03:32 PM
IP: h213-18-240.mi2.albacom.net

Hi all! :)

Sorry it's been so long since I've come back, it's the usual plus my parents are _always_ trying to get on the computer now. *sigh*

I haven't read Giri just yet. But I get the impression I'm going to love it. :) So far the other eppies were disappointing, but I liked their artwork. :)

***Buffy & Angel SPOILERS***

Buffy> I liked this episode. Riley's grown on me, and I think that he really does love and care for Buffy...though I don't want to think of the confrontations between him and Angel...I can just see that awful episode coming up... *sighs* My favorite part was when Spike tried to 'hit' on Buffy and she slammed him in the wall, and then he didn't expect to get slammed into the wall again... :} The Jonathon character I didn't remember until I pictured him in the yellow shirt, and then it came clear. My, what an alternative world that would've been. I kinda hope we get to see more character development with him (cus I think he's got potential, since he knows about spells and monsters and such). As to why he cast a spell that would be difficult for Willow to cast, I think it's because he didn't do it alone. I believe he had help from someone else that we don't know, just like all the other people who are now casting spells for their own uses. And of course, their ametuers, so they do it wrong, and do unleash evil. It's expected. :) I wish we got to see more screen time with Anya and Xander, but Joss Whedon's saying that, at the end of the season, Xander is going to become a *huge* roll for the show. They've purposely been keeping him out of our sight for this special purpose at the end of the season (I'm sure SJ's given everyone the news, oh well. :p ). I'm wondering if they're going to make Xander evil... just for a thought, are we gonna see the evil vamp Xander in the universe again??? Is he going to be eviler or is he going to become some superhero?? And what about Anya?

Angel> Ooooh, I luved this eppie! Seeing 'Angelus' was kewl again...and was I the only one that gagged and choked when he threw pigs blood down "Raven"'s throat? Oh, that gave me shivers! *Makes face as memory comes back* I hope to see the woman again...and I'm wondering what Cordy's future's gonna be like, since she seems to be very bad on stage but when her life depends on it, she acts like an academy-award winner. And is Joss ever going to explain Wesley's past? I mean, on the kid exorcist tape, the kid said Wesley was planning to kill Angel, and then he said something about Wesley's dad or something other... *shrugs*

*END SPOILERS!!*

Jannie> Ugh, the principal sounds horrible! IMO, she's ignorant, selfish, and arrogant, the three factors that'll bring her down in time. Like you said, she's nothing but trash! Also, thank you for the info on private schools, my parents want to put my sister in one because home schooling isn't the life for her (I like it because I'm one of those people who like the quiet and like the rain as much as the sunshine, not being stuck in a four cornered room with kids throwing spitballs at each other, but, heh, that's me :) My parents are looking for this stuff so they know the downside as well as the upside. Thanks again. :)

RP's> I agree with Kitania on this one, though Firestorm has brought up good debates. ^_^

Episode 1> Well...my sister _liked_ Jar Jar, but she's a kid, so don't jump at her, kay? IMO, I don't like him, he was just too...stupid, and his purpose was for little toddler/kid jokes, not a person to talk with teen/adult jokes. I told Lins this and now she's trying to get a different viewpoint of this (she's a sweetie sometimes :) so the verdict for her is still open... I don't like him, but I don't really care for his character either, so I'll just leave it at that.

The other characters were likeable, Obi-Wan and his mentor were really interesting and I bawled at the finale. *ducks trash* But I also think that they were way too show-offy, and the musical score needed work. The movie was perceived as too cheerful, and I wanted it to truthful. The race-pod scene was kewl, but later on, when Anakin was talking to himself in the jet, all I kept thinking was, "Shut up kid and get moving!" And the graphics looked computerized...I liked the puppets better. Otherwise, the movie was great, and Darth Maul (I think that was his name) was a dark person that reminded me a lot of a silent Darth Vader, and I'll take that as something good. To be truthful, I can't wait to see what's installed for us in Episode Two, because that is yet to be the darkest of the series, until Episode Three (the reason I say that is because we get to see that cheerful, great little kid evolve into that dark, evil ruler seen in the trilogy, as y'all know). That will be way interesting...

Samson> Welcome! Hope you like it here. :)

Jaden> Hope to see you soon. You will be missed, and I also hope that return safe to us. I have friends who've been sent in the army, they remain close with our family. :)

Poll>
1. Gargoyles {of course}
2. Simpsons {luv that humor}
3. Batman Beyond {And the legacy lives on!}
4. TMNT {why not?}
5. Chip N' Dale Rescue Rangers {heh}

Well, if I'm not asleep, I'll write more after the wipe, and bring chibi-Claw with. :)

Bye all! :)
Anne
Sunday, April 9, 2000 05:49:59 PM
IP: 204-246-241-43.nas2.apv.gblx.net

I know some of you have been wondering so here it is.
We have heard from the king, now we shall hear the wisdom of the queen. The new mp3 is Bohemian Raphsody by Queen.
And since Gunjack appearntly does not have AIM or ICQ, I have reposted Life Is a Carnival by The Band.

Replies after food.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, April 9, 2000 05:24:17 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Oops

Forget what I said about the comment room not being wiped, I made a mistake.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 04:34:00 PM
IP: spider-ti061.proxy.aol.com

Has anyone else noticed that neither comment rooms have been wiped?

Top 3 favorite animated shows.
{these are not in the order of favorite to least favorite, I like them all a lot}
1.Gargoyles-still my favorite.
2.DragonBall Z-Just began watching the Freiza saga of the show on Cartoon Network and got hooked.
3.Simpsons-I love the humor of this show.
{I have alot of others I like but wasnt able to decide which should go next}
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 04:28:44 PM
IP: spider-ti061.proxy.aol.com

to the other Daniel, we need to watch replies to either one of us to make sure people get us straight.

In other matters, does anyone 'own' the character DC? My saga is going to have some revelations about him and I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

**COMMENTS about TGS**
I have to say I really enjoy where the writers are taking the Gargoyles saga. It's fun to try and figure out where the writers are heading next.
**END COMMENTS**

If Gargoyles isn't at the top of everyone's (in this room) list of favorite animated shows, then somebody should ____ the person.

**SPLB SAGA CONTINUES**
"Hmm. Who would DC be afraid of?" thought DPH. DPH uses his ability to summon lightning to fry all of DC's clones. Afterwards, he feels very tired so he summons lightning to recharge him.

DPH casts a spell to reveal where in the universe in his solar powered light bulbs are. The spell reveals one fact: "Your solar powered light bulbs aren't in THIS universe."
DPH collapses after the announcement because of the energy drain and the news.
**END SPLD SAGA**
Daniel Paul Hightower (DPH)
Sunday, April 9, 2000 03:47:52 PM
IP: max1-56.cwy.cei.net

Top five animated shows? First of all, I can't really rank them perfectly, since I like different things about different shows, so this list will just be the five that stand out most in my mind, not in any particular order. Second, I'm going to split it between Anime and Western animation, since otherwise I don't have enough room.

Five Favorite U.S. shows.
1 - Batman: TAS
2 - Gargoyles
3 - The Simpsons (which I don't get to watch often enough)
4 - Darkwing Duck
5 - The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest (mostly for the pretty good artwork and new techniques in animation, but also for the character development involved in maturing all the characters from the old series)

Runners Up - Thundercats, Invasion: America, Tailspin, War Planets (which was the first time I really respected CGI), Roughnecks: the Starship Trooper Chronicles (Which I only get to watch ten minutes a day of).
Shows that really disappointed me: The X-Men, The new Superman cartoon, the new Voltron.

Five favorite Anime Series
1 - Marmalade Boy (go ahead, say something, I dare you)
2 - Fushigi Yuugi (but they should have left those poor people alone instead of doing the OVAs)
3 - Escaflone (possibly the most perfectly stereotypical anime of all time)
4 - Almost all of the Macross series (even 7, which is kind of like an acid trip on VCR)
5 - Lain.

Runners up - The Gundam franchise, Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Magic Knights Rayearth.
Shows that either disappointed me or were just too d**n wierd - Record of Lodos War (it was ok, but not great), Legend of the Galactic Heroes ("Do not watch this anime before operating heavy machinery), Crystalana (sp? - it's the sequel to Lodos - I didn't even think it lived up to Lodos), Ah, My Goddess! (which is really good, but depresses the hell out of me for some reason).
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Sunday, April 9, 2000 03:38:00 PM
IP: dll2a030-1033.splitrock.net

Let me correct my list on live-action shows. i forgot two of them

1. Babylon 5
2. Crusade
3. Buffy
4. Angel
5. X-Files

I can not belive I forgot buffy anf Angel ::smacks himself STUPID STUPID STUPID::

Now my honorable mentions in this categoty. Seinfel, Action, That 70s Show, Star Trek Next Generation, Frasier, Friends.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 02:51:53 PM
IP: dialin-601-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well this may sound a bit egotistical, but I'm actually proud of myself. I've almost finished my proposal for a final design project and it's not even Monday.
poll-
huh, lets see how far I can reach back into my mind.
1. Gargoyles: Great animation, characterization and overall quality
2. Exo-Squad: Decient animation, highly detailed characters, and one of the best bad guys of all time short of Xanatos. (Pheaton kicked a$$)
3. Married With Child: only because Al reminds me of my Dad.

4. Gundam Wing: I was surprised because I'm not a big anime fan, but the detailed characters and in the uncut versions, foul language really do make up for everything else.
5. Sonic the Hedgehog (the old ABC version) Despite the childish animation the characters were very detailed especially in the first season.

Honorable mention: DBZ, the old episodes of the Simpsons and Transformers, before the movie. (when Optimus died I cried, but hey I was only six years old)

Episode I- Well I only saw it once and yeah it had great special effects, but the only character I liked they killed(Qui-Gon).

Still got a model to build, Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
hell, tx
Sunday, April 9, 2000 02:35:08 PM
IP: spider-wc012.proxy.aol.com

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Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 02:20:55 PM
IP: spider-wc012.proxy.aol.com

Robby> Re: Reboot> Whoops! My opinion still holds, though. :)

Laptops> Thanks for the input from those who gave it. I think I'd like an "eraserhead" mouse more than a touchpad... but of course both are very awkward - which is my biggest reservation about a laptop. Still, it's getting bought. ;) It's just proving exceedingly difficult to find one w/ just what I want that's not over $2,000.

Niamhgold> The Mutant Mistletoe? I don't believe we've been introduced, no. :)

Top Five Cartoons> (Excluding comedy shows)

1. Gargoyles
2. Exosquad
3. X-Men (particularly season one)
4. Duck Tales (I worshipped Scrooge McDuck!)
5. Dragonball Z

I can't believe how quickly I've become obsessed with DBZ, but it's sticking... so I guess it officially counts.

Despite you comic purists out there who ripped the series down, I think "X-Men" was a landmark (whether it had the effect of one or not) of animated children's programming. It was just so damn well done. Even though it doesn't have a particular personal connection for me (unlike the other four listed) it's up there for some reason... most likely that one...

Honorable Mentions>

1. Gundam Wing (an impressive up-and-coming!)
2. Batman: The Animated Series

Top Three Live-Action Shows>

1. Babylon 5
2. Star Trek: The Next Generation
3. The X-Files

I grew up on "The Next Generation." Criticize it all you like, but it opened the door for modern intelligent sci-fi.

Even though "X-Files" has sucked since season four, to the point where I've stopped watching... well, there it is.

Honorable Mention>

1. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer/Angel

It took me till the summer of season three to realize the show didn't suck.
Entity
Sunday, April 9, 2000 02:02:00 PM
IP: nic-30-c37-089.mw.mediaone.net

Animated Shows

1. Gargoyles
2. Transformers
3. Beast Wars/Beast Machines
4. The Simpsons
5. Batman (the Fox episodes)

Runners up> Disney's Hercules, the first two seasons of X-Men, Invasion America, Darkwing Duck, Spawn, Pinky and the Brain, old WB cartoons, Exo-Squad

Live Action Shows

1. Babylon 5
2. Crusade
3. Seinfeld
4. Action (R.I.P.)
5. X-Files (not as much any more, but sometimes I like what I see)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 01:35:26 PM
IP: dialin-601-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Greetings all...

Glad to see all the positive comments on "Giri"...Entity did a fantastic job with it, and the artwork is great as well. To see all of the appreciation for it, it boggles me because this ep nearly didn't make the final cut for Season 3...and I had a hand in getting it accepted in the end.

I'm making this post from my missus' computer, because the monitor I've been using (a borrowed one from her old 386) went belly up on me... just jerked, then every color faded to pure white, like it had been snowed over. Today we're going out to see if we can find a low-cost replacement monitor.

SHOWS - Well, for me I'd have to say, in no particular order:

- Gargoyles
- Reboot
- Beast Wars/Beast Machines
- Super Dimentional Fortress Macross (aka Robotech, Series 1)
- G. I. Joe (the Early Series)

Honorable Mention - Duck Tales, Talespin, Gummi Bears, Darkwing Duck, Thundercats, Rescue Rangers.

Jaden - Good luck in the military, man! Remember one thing: Take advantage of ANY programs they offer for future educational or personal benefits.

CHRISTINE - EIB??? Now, I'd like to see that!

Well that's all for now. Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, April 9, 2000 12:45:44 PM
IP: m51.ieway.com

Ooh, I don't comment much but this was too good to pass up. Top five cartoons of all time in order of greatness.

1. Talespin- There isn't a funnier cartoon out there. The planes were cool, and the warm relationship among the makeshift family of HIgher for Hire separates it from the rest of the Disney cartoons. Terrific setting as well.

2. Gargoyles- You all know why.

3. Thundercats- What a creative show! With cool characters, weapons and vehicles. NOt to mention a somewhat continous storyline like Gargoyles. THe animation was awful, but as a five year-old I didn't notice. Gargoyles barely edges them out.

4. Gummi bears- Another project Greg worked on, and another meticulously created universe. A fun show and one of the few shows where I liked every character.

5. X-Men- man if the show came on about 5 years earlier, it might have been number one, and I wouldn't have been able to get enough of it.

Honorable mention- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Rescue Rangers,Care Bears, and Voltron.

Mr. Thrugg
Sunday, April 9, 2000 10:50:03 AM
IP: pbd0078.urh.uiuc.edu

Doug- liked the RP- Road to Eldorado was good huh?

Wilek- love the get up- yep, Vader's got my vote :P

Sampson- welcome to the RP and to garg fandom on the internet :)

Jaden- you will be missed- God speed.

Cartoon shows:

Gargoyles (the only one deserving #1)
Beastmachines
gundum wing
robotech- even though I heard the American version is no where as good as the japanese version- which doesn't surprise me.
reboot-3rd season

All are serial dramas. My fav.
jenna
Sunday, April 9, 2000 10:25:26 AM
IP: 1cust111.tnt6.houston.tx.da.uu.net

Pink (because I'm feeling *frilly* today)

Not much happening on the homefront. Just rain...a lot of it!

I also see that Celera Genomics has sequenced the entire human genome. I wonder if they can tell me what makes me so _wacky_, then? Sure beats the heck out of those Punnett squares!

Gside: <rot and bother> LOL :) I don't judge things in stars, though--it's just that, personally, I'll always be critical of my artwork and writing. As for Lex's column, I'm trying to keep focused on my fanfic (as Cherry knows), but RL's being a sucker lately. It'll be wacky enough, though! <Leave it to us left-brained engineers not to write> But you can _think_, and develop some amazing things, so you'll end up getting the high end of the scale! =)

Shadowrider: Hmmm...being zapped. Well, I've never been afraid of electricity. It's because, when I was five, I watched this "Fix-it" show on TV. Well, the guy was repairing outlets, so I took a screwdriver, popped the cover off an outlet in my own house, and jammed in the closest thing to a wrench--a metal, highly conductive nut cracker! Heh. That was the only time in my life I flew like a gargoyle, without wings, and it took a while before my mother would ever leave me alone again! :)

Entity: Welcome. Have you been introduced to the Mutant Mistletoe yet? Keep in mind that, if the Evil Bouquet ever penetrates the CR, those two together could cause you some problems! ;} Oh, and tell your Art Class that they have my utmost respect!

Mecord: The family conspiratists are the *ultimate* conspiratists. Be paranoid. Be _very_ paranoid!

Doug: Thank you, very much! Looking forward to your next piece!

Robby's poll: Hmm...top five favorite cartoon shows of all time:

1: Gargoyles (of course)
2: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (we can't deny our
childhood!)
3: Sailor Moon (actually, that was about a year and
a half ago...but, oh well)
4: The Smurfs
5: Ducktales (dealt with mythology rather well)

I can probably name a few others, but, right now, these are the ones off the top of my head.

Adios!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 09:21:13 AM
IP: ncia117n.ncia.net

Off-topic, but I just reorganized and added a whole heap o' pics to the "Obi-Wan is Hot!!!" site. Clickie or go to http://members.xoom.com/Sabledrake/obiwan.html

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 03:33:47 AM
IP: 16-178.009.popsite.net

Lilac (Oh so manly)

Jaden> Best wishes for what the future brings.

Wilek> <<Do you have a CD-RW>>: Not personally, but it's too expensive (discs, not drive). I'm thinking $1\50Megs (or maybe $1\100 very soon) would be good currently. That's about 1/320th of my current HD, and it probably averages out to what my space would be worth in an internal desktop drive (I'm working out of a 2G laptop w/ 13.4G PCMCIA external. I paid ~370 for the external, and you know they drive up prices for those.)

Bish> <<Palpatine did take over the Senate so things should be getting dark in the next movie or so>>: Remember the pattern from 4-6: small victory, forboding loss, overwhelming victory. Hey, maybe they'll lose Jarjar near the end of II, and hopefully there'll be no way to save (unfreeze by analogy) him.

Shadowrider> <<maybe I was supposed to figure ["zap"] out by myself>>: Nah, it's pretty common over here, and onomatopea varies greatly over the globe, so it's not surprising you didn't recognize it.

Random note> Finally got to see Ghost in the Shell. Quite odd. And things weren't wrapped up as well as I am used to (or my mind wasn't in the right place to appreciate it to its full extent).

Entity> Laptops: See above. You may want to disregard my comments, as I treat mine like a compact desktop. I have a NEC Ready 220T. I has a touchpad (I use my USB mouse mostly). One thing I don't like about touchpads is that when you are typing, you may occaisonally hit the pad, and it moves the cursor where you don't want it. As for how NEC is as a brand, the preinstalled software does not have an uninstall program that I have found, and by disrespecting my battery (leaving it plugged in all the time), it doesn't hold a charge very well (or the power manager is too sensitive). My personal take on processors is take what you get, name is not as important as clock speed. In other words, if one laptop has all the features you want with a faster chip of the brand you don't like, go for it. I don't have too many other problems with my laptop that couldn't be blamed on Windows.

Fire Storm> <<anyone know how to add a third or forth IDE channel in a computer>>: In a couple years, hopefully I sould build an IDE interface from scratch, but at the moment, I'd have to say I can't help you.
<<[the t-shirt is] A joke, right? I hope so!>>: Not in the least. It has become the new fashion statement here at Rutgers. I think all my suitemates have one. To see the homepage check out: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~robstev/sauce.html
<<[future mp3s] sound like good ones>>: Thank you for your vote of confidence. I've been contemplating doing the complete Pictures at an Exhibition, especially if I find all the pictures on the internet (haven't looked yet). Does that sound like a good idea?
<<Even a shared t1 us usually faster than a single 56k, right>>: Boo yah. Today, I grabbed all four versions (not sure which size would run smoothest on my laptop) of the LotR trailer. I had an average reported bitrate of 140k\s, even with multiple files being downloaded simultaneously. Boy, I've been spoiled. If they ever get around to putting the cable in (it is part of the RUNet2000 project - note 2000), I don't think I'd ever leave.
vanDeGraff: Tesla is so much better. I used to have a teacher who would occasionally hold a small one behind his back and shake people's hands (not my father, though that is up his alley).
<>: Heck no! And it works best on a dry day with a nongrounded person with medium-long hair.
I've heard stories of electricians who would check out a circuit in a house by putting their fingers in light sockets (you can survive if you know how).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, April 9, 2000 01:51:01 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Entity- You misread me a bit... Reboot has a Star Trek WRITER on the writing staff. One of the guys who actually WROTE "Wrath of Khan" and several episodes of the original Trek series was responsible for a couple ReBoot episodes. I'm sure all the references were personal fullfillment, in much the same way Greg Weisman did a Captain Atom story that focused almost entirely on gargoyles.

The show has an EXCELLENT overall plot, one of the best american, (okay... Canadian...) television has ever come up with. Its just on the sidelines the show isn't afraid to poke fun at itself. The same way Gargs did a Beauty and the Beast tribute in "Eye of the Beholder", or had a "Mr. Acme" in Vendettas, only upped a few notches. Its an animated comedy, with LOTS of time to sneak in stuff due to the ammount of time CGI takes anyway... Ya can't take it too seriously, its there to have fun. (But the serious moments are pretty durn good too. Its one of the few shows I've *HAD* to catch ever episode ever day of...) The show's biggest problem is that the entire first season was basically unconnected episodes, and the real plot didn't start till the end of season two. Kinda like Beast Wars in that respect, so none of the big and awesome stuff came until the end. (But the early episodes are still a lotta fun for standalone episodes.)

But, you seem to have actually watched several episodes of the show, (rather than just a couple of moments here and there) and ya didn't seem to click on this, so I guess it really just isn't your thing. Ah well.

(Sorry if I seem a bit over-enthusiastic about ReBoot, but it's one of my top five favorite animated shows of all time, and if the episode count had been a wee bit higher I'd put it ahead of Gargs.)

Hmm... I wonder...

BRAND NEW POLL!-Everybody in here... What are your five top favorite animated shows of all time? If you can't narrow it down to just five, feel free to name some more...

With me, in no particular order, the top five are...
Reboot, Gargoyles, Talespin, Slayers, and Dragonball (as a whole, original, Z, and GT).

Right behind those, and losing mostly only due to low episode count... The Critic, The Tick, Treasure Island, (Has anyone else here even SEEN that particular show?)Macross... Ranma 1/2 and Gundam Wing might move into my top 5 after I've seen all of either series, but I can't judge fully being only half way through either. (They're definatley in my top 7 though.) Alladin, Goof Troop, Thundercats, Beast Wars, War Planets (Of which we only got the first 13 episodes...)and ROnin Warriors... There's a few more in there, but I can't think of any right now...

Robby
Sunday, April 9, 2000 01:27:40 AM
IP: spider-tq081.proxy.aol.com

**RP HERE, READ IF YOU WANT TO**

(note- this picks up immediately after Jaden's last bit). "Me, sir?" Alchemist asks Thailog. The clone gargoyle nods. "Yes, you. Everyone else is vital to the plan we are currently preparing. You also know your invention best, you alone can use it." Alchemist shrugs. "You are right about that." "Good then," Thailog nods. "I'll send a squad of Zale's soldiers with you so you won't be alone. Go immediately." "Take my creation along, please!" Dr. Ed Edison jumps in. "Frankunsteen needs testing!" Alchemist grimaces. "You want me to bring along that moronic blithering zombie?" "He may be intelectually inferior, but he does have other attributes!" Edison protests. "You'll appreciate his strength!" "Just humor him," Thailog growls at Alchemist. "You'll probably need the cannon fodder." "Fine," Alchemist sighs. "Some of my own creations will be brought along as well. I will contact Jaden to determine the enemy's location and then depart." He nods at Thailog and then walks off. Thailog watches him go, then turns as Major Charleston taps him on the shoulder. "Yes?" "Asil has disappeared, sir," the major answers. "I guess we can only assume the Ravens have killed her." "Damn!" Thailog fumes, smacking his fist into the wall. "Did she accomplish her mission?" "No, sir, I don't think so. The Nielsen Building is still intact." Thailog glowers for a moment, then his eyes dim. "No matter. I am sure Alchemist will succeed against her killers. And then we will be free to conquer." Charleston frowns but nods. "Okay, I hope you're right." Thailog glowers at him as the screen darkens.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Greetings everyone. How are y'all doing tonight? Good, I hope. I see some of us have began the old RP debate again. Forgive me if I don't comment on it, you all already know my feelings. :) Thanks to those who have expressed condolences over my recent bout of sickness, I too am glad I'm over it now. Of course, fatigue is still possible for me, and since I have some now, I'll get caught up in here quickly and then go on. :)

Fanfic Progress: Night of the Symbiotes Part 1 is coming along very slowly but it's progressing. I have one more character introduction/reminder/development scene to do, then a few tension building ones, then the wedding combined with the beginning of the events that will challenge our heroes in the story's second part. :) I don't know how much longer it will all take to write, but I'll try to get it out as soon as I can. :) Still looking for an artist for my work, by the way. Here's a repeat of the ad from last week if anyone missed it:
<I'm looking for someone who'd be interested in helping to illustrate my fanfic. You know, draw pictures to be put among the text like in the TGS stories. MadameDestine recently told me how to do this with a GFW document (create a .html file with a "display X picture" command in it that links to a picture stored on a website somewhere), and I've been thinking I want to do it with some of my work. If you're an artist who'd be interested in helping me with this, please send me an e-mail. I'm not fully sure yet what the position of my official fan artist will entail, feedback for your pictures along with the feedback for my writing and getting to practice your craft will probably be the only benefits. :( I do know I'm looking for someone who'd be willing to do pics of scenes as well as characters, in color or black and white (former's preferred, but whatever works for the artist is okay), with access to a scanner or computer drawing program (so pictures can be sent easily over e-mail), and who likes my work enough to draw for it (it'll just be easier for both of us if this is so, it's easy to understand why). Quality of work is a plus, but a specific style's not that important. I'll take pics that look like they came out of the original Gargoyles show's animation department, dark pics that look like they belong in Batman- TAS, CGI style pics, anime pics, as long as they fit with the style of my stories and depict scenes or
characters from them (the choices for some of which I may specify, but most of which I'll leave up to the artist) I don't care. Just no obvious parodies or distorted unclear modernist stuff, okay? The work will be meant to illustrate and help the reader, it can have its own message if desired but that shouldn't be as important (sorry I'm having to say this, but I dealt with it with a local artist recently, and just want to make sure the experience isn't repeated <sigh>). So if you're an artist who's interested, e-mail me, give me your name, contact info, a few samples of your work or links to them, and we'll see if we can work something out. :) I look forward to working with whose-ever offer I end up accepting, thanks in advance to anyone who responds.>
GXB's the only one who's responded so far (thanks again, friend), I'm hoping to make this somewhat of a contest by getting other applicants as well. Hope they come in. :)

SparkTests: Kit and I took a couple of these recently. I'm 33 percent bastard, she's 52 percent b&^ch. <grin> We weren't that interested in the others, these are pretty expressive enough. :)

Shadowrider: Liking storms isn't delirious at all, IMO. Whatever you enjoy is fine with me. :) I've met other people who like to drive or ride their bikes in storms. You'll never catch me enjoying it, not since I had a wreck hydroplaning a few years back, but other people do enjoy it. :) Cool real name and cyborg names, by the way. I have a stepbrother named Marco. :)

Jenna: Yep, I saw the Pokemon 2000 trailer day before yesterday before watching Road to El Dorado (which was a really good film btw- excellent animation, character development, plot, and historical accuracy. Cool songs too. I definitely recommend it to all in here.), and of course I too am not excited. But I look on the bright side, at least this fad is going to burn itself out before too long. <crosses fingers for luck> Thanks for the Ray Bradbury quote, which I liked.

Joe, SOROW: You're both welcome for the support. Joe, I congratulate you on the Pre-cal success and I congratulate SOROW on her win in the drill team tryout. Good luck to you both with the trials that remain, I hope you soon stop feeling the pains and hassles in your life. :)

Calliope: Yep, definitely lots of cool people here. I continue to be glad to be among them and friends with so many. :)

**WARNING- SPOILERS FOR ANGEL, BUFFY AND TD**

Buffy and Angel this week: Liked both episodes. Pretty nice character development on the principals in each. I was sorry Giles, Xander, Anya, and Spike didn't get much in Buffy though. Hope that changes in the next new ep three weeks from now. :) Johnathan's involvement in the plot was done well, I liked what happened with his character. Can't help wondering what he'll do next. :) Angel had a nice script also. It was cool seeing our favorite vampire with a soul go bad again, even if it was just temporary, and I too liked Cordelia's "Oscar" scene. The ep itself did have a few plot holes, and Silverstar's right, both eps were occasionally overly dramatic, but both were also interesting and good. :)

Timedancer: Really enjoyed Giri, just like everyone else who's commented on it so far. I was confused by the story at first, and was later gladdened when it made sense. The pics were very well-drawn and quite illustrative, both good things. Also liked the dialogues, the development done on Brooklyn and Sata, and the characters of the Kitsune. Yoshi the monk was an intriguing character also, the other monks weren't as much but all three did have nice scenes. :) Definitely got the sense of time and place in this episode, which helped on the history. Big kudos to Entity on his excellent writing. Not sure what else I can say, except that I hope the Timedancer writers and artists keep up the good work. As well as all other TGS personnel. :)

**SPOILERS END, BACK TO REPLIES**

Niamhgold: Glad to know your frostbite wasn't a prelude to something really bad. Good luck with the doctors getting your circulation fixed. I'll be praying for you. :)

George Lucas: I don't think he's evil either, even if there was a lot I didn't like about Ep 1. My main beef with it was that it was too kid-oriented, and I guess if you think about that there's really nothing wrong with it. <shrugs> There were some things I enjoyed in Ep 1, too, like Natalie Portman and the lightsaber fight. I just hope that Eps 2 and 3 don't have overly linear and too-convienent plots (no ships just happening to survive a space battle, get sucked on board the enemy command ship, and then blow it up with just one shot to the way-too-exposed power core), and they have the proper feels. :)

SJ: Thanks for the WB fall lineup. That Static Shock show sounds kinda interesting, I'll be checking it out. I'm unfortunately not too excited about the others. <I'd be first in line to sign up for the RP-only room, actually. Then there'd be no more "RP clique", and one more problem solved.> Hey man, who do you consider the RP a problem? Never mind, I know I said I wouldn't get involved in this latest debate. Just want to say one thing- personally, I don't think a seperate RP-only room would end the debates over RP in here, not unless RP was subsequently forbidden in this CR. And as Kit and Christine have pointed out, that wouldn't be good in many ways. :( I personally don't consider our RPing a problem, despite all Firestorm's good points, and like Kit I intend to continue RPing in here for as long as possible. I enjoy doing it, for the friendship it builds as well as the creativity and spontaneity Christine mentioned. Sorry to hear you don't feel the same way, if you want your characters written out of the RP, only say the word and Kit & I will take care of it. :( We'll miss you, but we will.

Silverstar: Sorry to hear your friend got hurt and then wronged like that. I hope they can get through the ensuing hassle and then somehow get just revenge. :)

Jannie: <nods> That principal of yours is one heck of a selfish person alright. Even worse than the assistant principal I had in middle school who paid no attention to students' feelings unless she was humoring their parents. And the time was not often when she felt like doing that (even when she did, as I'm sure you can guess, it wasn't always good). I definitely send you my synpathies in dealing with her, good luck for however much longer you have to handle it. <sigh>

Jaden: You're joining the Army, huh? Well, if you feel that's right for you, I say go with it. :) Good luck, just be careful of bad drill sergeant types and the other hassles of the military. We'll definitely miss you here, thanks for all the good times you provided while you were around. Hope that you return to us the same nice, interesting, and friendly person with your feelings and self-esteem in order besides. I'll keep you in my prayers. $ Don't worry about your RP characters, Kit and I will take care of them if you can't finish up his subplot before you have to go. But just in case we are starting an ending arc for them beginning with tonight's post. You are of course welcome and encouraged to contribute to it. :) $ Again, good luck with the army, have fun and see you when you get back.

<scans CR again> Okay, I guess that's all I have to say for now. Liked Jenna's Darth Vader site, but I don't know if I'd support the guy for President. Some of the changes he might make would be a little too drastic. :) I guess I'll go now, will see you all later. Sleep will be welcomed when it arrives.

**RP AGAIN**

In Los Angeles, the Ravens have gotten rooms at the Tiki Motel (yes, the same motel from the film Terminator) and are now standing around the Onslaught in the parking lot debriefing each other about the recent conflict before they rest. "So let me see if I've got this straight," Lathrop is saying to Kitainia. "Geoffrey Fieger is still alive, and he's got Asil now." Kit nods. "That's basically what happened." "That jerk!" Jammer growls. "Next time we see him, we better kill him for good." "I agree," Keith nods, "but who says we're going to see him again? We don't know where he was taking Asil." "We better find out and track them down, guys," says Doug. "Asil's our only link to Thailog." "The only one we can track down, you mean," Elena corrects. Doug nods. "Yeah, that's what I meant." "Fieger mentioned that some Mr. Turner wanted to see Asil," Kit says. "I'm not sure who he meant." "Ted Turner maybe?" Stephanie asks. "It's just Fieger, Richard Simmons, that wrestler guy, Ted Turner would be a logical tie-in." "Maybe," Doug scratches his chin. "Then I guess we're going to Atlanta," Shap says, "just to investigate the possibility." "I guess so," Doug agrees. "We should rest first, though," suggests Orion. "This latest battle has been quite taxing." He looks at the others and they all nod. "We'll have to make a few repairs on the truck's armor too," Tom says. "That earth elemental was pretty rough on it." "Maybe we should see Coyote about that since we don't know where Dumlao is," Kit grimaces. "I wonder if he's still in Arizona." "We'll take a road trip on the way to Atlanta and find out," Doug says. "But first we should all get some sleep." The others nod and then Erin speaks up. "Who is this Coyote?" "A friend of ours, long absent," Kit begins to explain. $ (Note to Coyote- we're not intending to bring you back into the RP with this, just want to close a couple subplots your character left dangling when he left. You don't have to get involved if you don't want to. Hope you don't mind. :) $

Meanwhile in a shadowy corner near the Ravens, Zezil turns from his observation to respond to a vision of his master Deavik that has suddenly appeared before him. "Yes my lord?" he asks. "How are your quarries?" inquires the demon lord. "They are about to take a rest," Zezil replies. "And they're also planning their next move." "I see," Deavik nods. "I have new orders for you. You are to cease your observation of them immediately." "I am?" "Yes. My plans with Lord Gothmenes and Lady Synatia to take over this world and open the Atlanta Hellmouth are coming to fruition soon. The Ravens must not interfere. Therefore I want you to eliminate them." Zezil gasps. "But master, I'm just an imp! They're too powerful!" "You've been observing them for months now, Zezil. Don't tell me you haven't learned their weaknesses." "That's just it! They seem to have none!" "Well, maybe you can turn them against each other then. Surely you've learned a way." "I don't think so, Master! They're all too good friends for that!" Deavik sighs. "Then find some other way. I don't care what you do, just eliminate them. Use that brain of yours. I expect you to preform well. That is all." His image disappears, and Zezil grimaces. "Oh sweet Lucifer," he mumbles. "I can't eliminate the Ravens, but I have to, or Deavik will obliterate me. Oh, what am I to do? What am I to do?" He sighs and puts his head in his hands, not realizing that his outbreak of emotion has made him visible. Just then, Jaden comes around the corner, carrying several drinks and snacks the Ravens asked him to pick up while grumbling under his breath. He stops and snarls as he sees Zezil. The imp looks up and gasps "EEK!!" just as the screen goes blank.

**TO BE CONTINUED SOON (by myself, Kit, or Jaden) FOR NOW END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 01:20:33 AM
IP: pool-207-205-151-221.dlls.grid.net

Color = Dark Yellow

Entity: <Laptops> Does anyone own one of these? If so, I seek your guidance. :) In your opinion, are touchpads better or are trackballs? Which brand is the best (Dell, Toshiba, etc?)? Which processor (AMD, Intel)? I've been scouring the net for the last week and visiting stores, but I'm still not totally sure which direction to go. If you can help, it'd be appreciated!>
Ahh.. a first laptop.
As for pointing device, I say trackball. I *HATE* my touchpad. But you really have no choice in the market. Touchpad :(

As for brand, I say Dell. A bit more expensive, but WELL worth it.

As for processor, at this point, it dosn't really matter, but I say Intel Celeron.
Fire Storm
Sunday, April 9, 2000 12:32:22 AM
IP: t3-90.visitus.net

Color = Yellow

Wow... this room kinda sucks in 16 color mode!

Wilek: <Hm...does it always stop in the same places?>
Yep. Between tracks 15 (Morpheus/Neo Matchup) and 16 (First Jump) It dosn't let me watch any more unless I skip ahead to track 24 or 25 (NOTE: Nearly 45 minutes)
I have been told that it has something to do with Dual Layers. I don't know, and quite frankly, I don't care.
I ripped the DVD drive out of LM's computer and threw it in mine. (BTW... anyone know how to add a third or forth IDE channel in a computer?)

SJ: <Ah, the age old RP debate again.>
'fraid so. Same result as always, most likely. RP stays.
<Here's the idea--have somebody make an RP only room.>
Most of the RPers have said that they don't just post for RP and would not go to an all RP CR.
<Mainframe is planning on making a couple Reboot *movies*>
Where did you hear this from?

Kitania: 
Just remember this: We have agreed to disagree!
<There is no official rule that says we can't post our stories in here if we want to.>
(FS double checks this) Your right! I thought there was! Hmm... (NOTE TO SELF...)
<the main reason I'll keep RPing in here and not a seperate RP-only CR even if one is built>
This is what I meant SJ.

I believe it was said, but even if it was not, I base it on the fact the some RPers come back in here for RP AND then they post.
Even if it is not true, I beleive that it will be. Not for everyone, but for some at least. Some RPers may come in here only once a week when they currently post in here daily.
<so what's the big deal? <hangs head> Please don't reiterate your previous comments>
Don't worry. I won't :) The big deal is more or less the thought that I do not believe that RP has it's place in here. At first I worried that more people would post their entire stories in here, but at least that has not come true.
I may not like it, I may want it moved into a seperate CR, but since thats not gonna happen, I can live with it.
<It would make people think this place was just for TGS stuff and turn the whole room into a clique, not just a small part of it.>
That is a fairly good point. But would turning this CR into a TGS only room be so bad? Well, maybe. Ok, yeah. I mean, people in here are friends and come in here to talk. If this CR was TGS only, that would pretty much suck. No Gside MP3s, no talk about new movies, etc.
<Hope I haven't offended you by saying this, I'm not meaning to. I'm just saying what I feel.>
And thats good. And thanks for keeping this civil.

It's not too bad for me. I have a 56K and hope to soon get free DSL service. (So I gotta put up with a few ads. Who cares! It's free DSL! 128/284!)

Christine: <Another all-night bull session at a future Gathering would do the trick quite nicely.>
Yeah... Greg keeps mentioning the infamous G98 one. THAT was fun!
<See, Fire Storm, from zero to babbling imbecile in less than four minutes!>
Hmm... I know you can do better! You cn probally go from zero to babbling in under 10 seconds!

Gside: 
A joke, right? I hope so! But you never can tell...
<MP3's to come>
They sound like good ones. I am pretty sure I have all of the recent ones downloaded.
<Don't forget ethernet. or does a T1 count even when you share it?>
I'd say so. Even a shared t1 us usually faster than a single 56k, right?

XenaTrek: < Yes I was referring to the movie when I stated 14 VFX/Animation companies>
Ah. Thought so. That really wouldn't be a fair comparison anyway. No animated humans.

Shadowrider: <Sorry...but I haven't been able to understand what you meant with "zapped". Really sorry.>
No problem. Although Gside explained it well, I thought I'd tell my side of it:
When I was in electronics, I made a few mistakes and caused many sparks to fly into the air.
ALSO, in a wierd auto shop/electronics crossover, we were playing with an ignition coil (20k volts). No one else would touch it. But I did. Repeatadly.
AND in Physics, we had a van DeGraph <SP!> generator (READ: VERY high power static electricity generator). Few were brave enough to even go near the think. I grabbed it, and it wasn't too bad. It was fun!
(And don't even get me started on feeling a power plug into the socket.)
So zapped, for me, IS getting hit with electricity.

Jaden: <So today I joined the U.S. Army>
YEOW! Well, I wish you the best of luck. (BTW... can you still get out if you change your mind?)
You may be able to come back here while you are over seas.

Vader for Pres: I checked out the website... at least he is honest :)

Samson: <Wjy are there no pictures of Coldstone, Desdemona, Eliza as a garg, Boudicca, Gabriel, etc?>
Because:
1: There are no available pictures of those charatcers from the TGS Archives
2: The enhanced coding hasn't been uploaded yet
3: Hey, I'm working on getting more pictures up, ok? :)

Wilek: < His takeover plans are eerily similar to mine (if a tad more aggressive), now that I think about it... >
Yeah, but do you really want the competition?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, April 9, 2000 12:27:46 AM
IP: t3-90.visitus.net

Lord of the Rings> I wish I could watch this trailer, but I haven't Quicktime 4. Actually, rephrase that. I have Quicktime 4, it's just that on top of being crappy in and of itself, it's malfunctioning.

Reboot> A writer who's a Star Trek fan, I figured as much. I don't see how that excuses it, though. Isn't it unprofessional? The show's a parady on computers, but everything else? I can tell that there _is_ an overall plot... something involving the star character and being the guardian of mainframe and later taking up that duty via shiny, silver armour... but the fact that there is an attempt at an original plot there, but it's blended with tons of "tributes", makes it seem rather shabby. Whereas if there were no overall plot, but it was simply a 100 percent parady show.

Then again... I thought Dragonball Z was some childish, stupid show until I crossed paths with you on it. :)

Laptops> Does anyone own one of these? If so, I seek your guidance. :) In your opinion, are touchpads better or are trackballs? Which brand is the best (Dell, Toshiba, etc?)? Which processor (AMD, Intel)? I've been scouring the net for the last week and visiting stores, but I'm still not totally sure which direction to go. If you can help, it'd be appreciated!

Cyborg wrote: "Episode One: I can't offer an oppinion on this movie as I fell asleep durring it."

And I think that is the ultimate sad truth.
Entity
Sunday, April 9, 2000 12:27:39 AM
IP: nic-30-c37-089.mw.mediaone.net

Shadowrider > "she managed not to change her face's expression for two hours; if it is not a record, it comes near. ;)" -- well, there's Tommy Lee Jones, whose face apparently is immobile above the lips, since he never changes expression movie after movie ... <g>

Aaron > Muppet Twin Peaks ... okay, I'm there! I wanna see Miss Piggy as Audrey Horne!

Warpmind > I was trying to wheedle an EIB (Elves in Black) cover out of Spike ; ) We shall see.

GXB > best aliens? The Tenctonese! My personal fave, no contest!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 11:30:17 PM
IP: 16-178.009.popsite.net

Daniel Johnson> <<Sorry, wrong Daniel, That was me.>> Ah. Sorry; my brain GPF'd when it encountered two separate Daniels in active memory. ;P <<Sorry about the aneurysm though.>> No prob; this happens all the time to my little two-volt brain. :P

Jenna> Vader For President> [Wilek reads the site, leaves for several hours, and comes back with large Imperial insignia tattooed on his chest, shoulders, and wingsails.] I know who I'm voting for this fall. 8) His takeover plans are eerily similar to mine (if a tad more aggressive), now that I think about it...

Babylon 5> Among the best ever. I think my favorite character was Kosh; very enigmatic, and I would appreciate the services of his tailor...

Samson> Welcome! Discard your sanity; you're one of us now...

Delphi> More job evaluation comments> Still love 'em! ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, April 8, 2000 11:21:20 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

X-Men: Evolution update: Click on my name to check out a picture from the show, going to air this fall on WB. It's a pic of Cyclops. From what I've seen, the show WILL be influenced by the movie. It may not be the same, plot-wise, but visually the costume looks very similar to the movie (only with a lot less black biker leather). They seem to be trying to go for a cross between the movie and Batman Beyond.
I'm sort of looking forward to the show, seeing as I've recently gotten into the X-comics again (thank GOD for the return of Chris Claremont and the arrival of Warren Ellis). But it kind of upsets me that they feel the need to make the merry mutants "adolescents". If they want a teenage group of mutants, they should have gone with Generation X.

Entity: I agree about Reboot. I don't know if they ever stole from another show, but the series never clicked with me. I could never get into it. It kind of bored me...the first season especially. But I posted the movie news cause I knew there were some fans in here.

Delphi: I personally feel that Farscape is THE best sci-fi show on TV currently (that is, a sci-fi show currently in production, not one that has ended production and is in reruns). The special effects are great, I love the characters, and the stories are getting better. I also like the addition of some pretty heavy villains like Scorpius, and the way that the characters have been allowed to grow and evolve.

Jaden: I'm sorry to see that you are leaving the CR...or rather, you'll be leaving for an indefinite period of time...but I wish you the best. I hope that you find direction in the military. I'm relativel confident that you will, actually; if nothing else, the army will give you order and direction in your life. And, once your tour of duty is done, hopefully you'll have a clear cut idea of where you want to go and what you want to do. I'll be pulling for you, and I'll pray for you. I wish you nothing but the best. :) Just don't be a stranger, hear? Come back in here as often as you can.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 11:13:37 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Hey all,
Just saw the trailer for Lord of the Rings. Looks bonza-ripper. Definately something I'll wait a week in line for to see on opening day. But at Christmas 2001, you'll need the patience of a dragon to wait.

Angel> I meant to say something about that. The continuity nit with Angel bursting in can be solved. She did invite him to come over earlier and see some of her episodes. It's similar to when Cordelia invited Angel before she got her house populated by the Phantom Dennis.

Overall, pretty good, though Angel and Buffy both wear on my nerves with their angst psuedo-love life. After about the third heart wrenching relationship, if I were Buffy I wouldn't trust my judgement on guys. And what is Riley contributing to the Scooby Gang? Angel, I like that both Cordelia and Wesley act in their character, but have brief moments of brillance. Personally, I'd like to see those moments a little more frequently, but that's me. I loved Cordelia's 'Oscar goes to...' scene. Angelus is a lot more interesting than Angel. That's all I'll say on that.

Didn't mean to be here long.
See ya

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 10:32:45 PM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

Not much time right now, so I'll say my peice and get.

Samson>Welcome aboard. Deposit your Sanity. You won't be needing it.

Jaden>OoRah! The military is a good life. It may not be the 'right' direction for you, but it will help you find that direction.
Enjoy and take advantage of the opportunities the military will provide.
You will be missed, friend. Come back to us, when you can.

Shade and Sweet water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 10:14:29 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Jaden and Samson: Jaden you will be missed, take care of yourself. Samson, welcome, and if you would just step over here, we will take care of you. *smiles evilly while she holds a vacume cleaner- like apparatus*

Episode One: I can't offer an oppinion on this movie as I fell asleep durring it.

Well, it's time for my 3000 mile check- up, bye.
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Saturday, April 8, 2000 09:15:10 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Hi all,

Jannie>>top ten HMO list, thankyou thankyou thankyou- RMAOL

Jaden>>Good luck, hope you find your "nitch" in life.

Gunjack V>> congrats! on the scholarship

S Jr>> I loved B5 'cause it had a great story line, and the characters changed through out the series, I'm also getting hooked on farscape.

Rev Attila>> midnight kitty says meow!

okay here's some more of those job evaluation comments- hope you enjoy them....

(12) "Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together."

(13)"A gross ignoramus - 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus."

(14)"He certainly takes a long time to make his point-less."

(15) "He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier."

(16) "I would like to go hunting with him sometime."

(17) "He's been working with glue too much."

(18) "He would argue with a signpost."

(19) "He has a knack for making strangers immediately."

(20) "He brings a lot of joy whenever he leaves the room."

(21) "When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell."

(22) "If you see two people talking and one looks bored, he's the other one."

(23) "A photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on."

(24) "A prime candidate for natural deselection."

(25) "Donated his brain to science before he was done using it."

catch you all next time!
delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls , Idaho
Saturday, April 8, 2000 07:26:52 PM
IP: twin6117.magiclink.com

Entity- Reboot rips stuff off? Um, its called homage, or parody. WHichever you prefer. Its a joke. Much like their having the Village people show up in one episode and singing about BS&P. Or when they had Fax Modem and Data Scuzzy show up in an obvious X-Files parody. Or when they ripped on Power Rangers. Its a comedic show, not always meant to be taken seriously, and there are a lot of references to other things. Considering the show has a writer from Star Trek on it, thats probably why there are so many injokes from Trek. The actual show is one of the best animated series ever given its overall plot, animation, comedy, and storytelling. In fact, there are jokes so obscure and blended into the show, I'm STILL catching new ones on multiple repeat viewings. If Cartoon Network was still showing it I'd urge you to give it another chance from start to finish so you could get a better feel for it, but oh well...

Samson- There are no pictures of those characters because we only use TGS staff drawn images, and we haven't had time or opportunity to draw all of them. (Bear in mind, gargs has a cast of some 300 characters between all the series...)
Robby
Saturday, April 8, 2000 07:01:14 PM
IP: cache-dc08.proxy.aol.com

<Shadowrider enters the Room. Seems there's noone...wait. Hey, there's someone...a new presence, too!>

Samson> Welcome here! Hey, it is a period full of new encounters. I hope you'll enjoy here. See you around. For the pictures...well, I really don't know, sorry. :)

Tron:> Hey, I see there's a lot of people who remembers it! Fantastic! I think Tron was the true first VR movie, even before Virtual Reality to become of actuality! I've seen it about...oh, a dozen of times, and I still enjoy it. As I said, my preferred scene is the one of the light cycles, but there are so many...and the vehicles were fantastic! (I liked the tanks a lot!). I also played the arcade games. I was quite good in Discs, but I appreciated the other one also (Damn! I can't recall its title!).
Since I've started connecting here, I've been getting more and more amazed by seeing how so many different people, connecting from so many different places in the world, can easily find common passions and interests and discuss about them. It makes me think there's still hope for this planet and the ones who live on it. This CR, in this case, serves the original purpose of the Web: it is a way to reach and communicate with different people.

Delphi:> LOL! Very funny comments!

Gside:> Thanks for explanation. Hmmm...maybe I was supposed to figure it out by myself...D'oh! <slaps on his head>. Well, being zapped is not the worst thing that can happen...being repeatedly runned over by a truck loaded with concrete blocks, for example...;)

Winter Wolf:> You're welcome. I'm glad you feel good here. I am here from a few week too, but one of the most beautiful things of the CR is that, after a few days, you begin to feel at home. Just figure out, before discovering the gargoyles-fans site (A couple of months ago...I'm a newbie in the Net...), the TGS and this CR, I believed I was the only one (except for a few friends of mine) who remembered the Gargoyles and their adventures!
Oh, for Tron...well, see above! :)

Enough for now!

"Se la terra è tonda e se il mare è blu
da che mondo è mondo il forte vince e non sei tu!"
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, April 8, 2000 06:56:06 PM
IP: h255-22-214.mi2.albacom.net

Wjy are there no pictures of Coldstone, Desdemona, Eliza as a garg, Boudicca, Gabriel, etc?
Samson - [david.washington@cableinet.co.uk]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 06:40:03 PM
IP: cache-cro-e3b.cableinet.net

I am new to this so hey
Samson - [david.washington@cableinet.co.uk]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 06:35:49 PM
IP: cache-cro-e3b.cableinet.net

B5> One of my favorites of all-time, no doubt about it. The best episode, IMHO, being "Sleeping in Light." Straczinski should've directed more often! While I can't say that the show is my personal favorite sci-fi/fantasy series (that title is taken, of course) I do think that, objectively speaking, it is probably the best sci-fi/fantasy series ever made.

Rodlox> Re: Giri> Yeah, that paragraph and a few others really shoulda been fragmented. It's something to keep in mind, for me, personally, in the future. Thank ya!

Reboot> I don't mean to get on anyone's bad side, as it looks like there are a sizable number of fans in here, but I gotta say I dislike this show. My argument against it is this: every time I've watched it, the content has been ripped off from somewhere else. In one particular episode, there were literally dozens of stolen plot bits from "Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan." The characters even spouted word-for-word dialogue from the film at points. That doesn't strike me as strong storytelling.

Art class> I thought I'd relate an uplifting incident that took place in an art class. The topic was good shows that got cancelled. At the mention of Gargoyles, virtually every person in the room turned and agreed. In light of the recent fatalistic discussion over the life of fandom, I figured this was appropriate. For every fan who's online and takes part in the CR's, mailing list, newsgroup, or any other detectable part of the fandom... there are likely a dozen+ closet fans in RL.
Entity
Saturday, April 8, 2000 02:38:35 PM
IP: nic-30-c37-089.mw.mediaone.net

Vader for President> Well, he's got my vote. He's definrtly better than the pin-head candidates we already have.

SJ> I whole-heartidly agree with you. Babylon 5 was the best science-fiction TV show ever. Even better than most if not all sci-fi movies. Also some good news for B5. TNT no longer owns the airing rights to it. Sci-Fi channel now does, so starting September 25, Babylon 5 will be airing every night. TNT loses Crusade in another year, so there may at last be some hope for the spin-off in B5 does well.

Tron> I never saw that. I did hear that Bruce Boxleitner is in it though.

Episode I> Well, Palpatine did take over the Senate so things should be getting dark in the next movie or so. I'm still willing to give them a chance.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 10:10:12 AM
IP: dialin-95-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

At last I have found a canidate I can believe in :P

Vader for Pres!!

More in depth repies later..

Sj- thanks for putting up the reboot movie info- they got a site? Were jazzed here!

Jannie- that b deserves to be drawn and quartered- I think we outta send Vader here out to do the job-

Kitana- I like your RP- esp those starring Thailog :P Even though I don't participate- doesn't mean I don't enjoy the RP antics.
jenna
Saturday, April 8, 2000 09:15:15 AM
IP: 1cust9.tnt5.houston.tx.da.uu.net

Wilek:
Sorry, wrong Daniel, That was me. Sorry about the aneurysm though. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 8, 2000 07:14:49 AM
IP: ppp-45.rb5.exit109.com

Tron> Saw it, liked it a lot. :) I think my favorite things were the vehicles, especially Sark's skyship and the beamrider.

SJ> <<does anyone know anything at all about Fortune City? I know that they offer free web pages, and they promise 100 MB. Is their site FTP oriented?>> Last I was there, they offered 20 MB, used FTP, and put ad banners on every page (yes, they'd show up in every frame of a framed site). <checks> Wow, now it's 100 MB. And still using FTP, thankfully. They're still forcing ad banners though...<<Mainframe is planning on making a couple Reboot *movies*. Looks like they will just be made for TV broadcast, but any Reboot movie is better than no Reboot movie, I suppose.>> YES!!! 8D I've been virtually in mourning (and boycott) ever since Cartoon Network got rid of it; maybe now they'll bring it back...

DPH> <<some kindergartners here in NJ were suspended from school because they pointed their fingers at someone and said "bang." You know, the way all kids that age have always done. I guess the principle was afraid they were going to bring guns to school the next day and really shoot someone. The other is that some woman tripped and fell while jogging. So logically the next step WAS to sue Nike, wasn't it? After all their sneakers MUST have caused her to fall.>> :O <aneurysm> sghawurhgluhsbdgjsbkd <<In the Gargoyles/TGS universe, does Oberon answer to anyone?>> Only his own planet-sized ego, as far as I can tell...

Jannie> <<She set up the 1st grade teachers this past week by going to one to discuss taking over the GT class for next year - without discussing this with the current GT teacher.. the current one found out thru the grapevine, confronted the principal and she LIED (as usual) saying that she didn't know anything about it....then proceded in bad mouthing the other teacher to this one.>> O_O <grr> When oh when is this psycho just going to DIE!!!!!!! >8( <<Thank you for your nice compliment about the teachers in this room ;)>> Yer welcome lass. ^_^ HMO thing> ROTFL!

Kitainia> <<Doug sends his thanks for your well-wishes related to his recent bout with the flu.>> You're both welcome as well. :)

Gside> <<We just need cheap, rewriteable, removable mass media that holds a good number of average modern media files (a/v).>> Do you have a CD-RW?

Delphi> Job evaluations> <ROTFL>

Jaden> <<Here at my home I've always felt out of place, like I didn't belong here. So today I joined the U.S. Army. I did a kind of rush so in about 10 days I'll be heading out to Basic Training and then to my job training and then I'll be sent to Korea. Joining the army doesn't feel like the right path for me either but I only enlisted for three years so that should give me some time to think. Maybe when I get out I'll still become a police officer, but I don't know. I'm so mixed-up inside right now that nothing seems right. There are times when I look inside myself and I just feel empty, like I'm not supposed to be living this life and it's tearing me apart. Even worse is that I won't be coming here for a while, I may not even be to get back.>> :O Dear gods... <sigh> I hope you're able to find your way soon, whatever that turns out to be...and that your absence won't be permanent. :(
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, April 8, 2000 02:28:48 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Time for the weekend. Got the computer at home to full working order, at least I think I did. The big test will be if it still freezes whenever I play a game. On the down side, I can't find my gargoyles tapes! NO! That includes the one that has Future Tense on it! :(

Daniel Johnson> << Isn't it fascinating how Gargoyles fans seem to have many other common interests….>> It's almost scary how many things I like that are mentioned on a daily basis.

Wilek>> Silverstar><<around here you can't find someone who isn't twisted to a certain degree.>> <Who else here considers that a compliment>I do. Normal is only for the unimaginative or when acting. "I don't talk to strangers, and I never met anyone stranger than you." :)

Shadowrider> Thanks for asking. It's great here in the CR. Where else can you have a good sci-fi discussion and bring up so many different things that you like. I loved the light cycles (sp?) from Tron. Anyone played either of the two Tron arcade games? I liked both, but I was better at Disks of Tron. Of course they had the light cycles in the other game, but you had to play three other mini games besides that.

David G> Having a TimeDancer episode with Sata sounds like a great idea. It could take place after she gives birth while she is with the future Manhattan clan. It would be a serious reversal for Sata, Broadway and Angela. Sata has recently met them, but they both know Sata from the past.

Enjoy your weekend!

WinterWolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, New York, USA
Saturday, April 8, 2000 02:28:29 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.89.138.newyork2.level3.net

****BEGIN RP!!!****
Alchemist steps over the remains of his latest test. "As you can see Thailog, my device destroys all higher brain functions leaving its victim little more than a breathing corpes."
"Excellent progress." Thailog replies. "Due to the fact that your spy has so far been unable to cause major damage to the Ravens you understand why I want to you to see to the destruction of Doug and Kitania yourself."
****END RP!!!****

Hi people. Sorry I havn't posted in a while but I've had one hell of a week. Since my classes ended a few weeks ago I've felt like I had no direction. I decided that it is time that I started to move out into the world. Here at my home I've always felt out of place, like I didn't belong here. So today I joined the U.S. Army. I did a kind of rush so in about 10 days I'll be heading out to Basic Training and then to my job training and then I'll be sent to Korea. Joining the army doesn't feel like the right path for me either but I only enlisted for three years so that should give me some time to think.
Maybe when I get out I'll still become a police officer, but I don't know. I'm so mixed-up inside right now that nothing seems right. There are times when I look inside myself and I just feel empty, like I'm not supposed to be living this life and it's tearing me apart. Even worse is that I won't be coming here for a while, I may not even be to get back. I'm still going to be here for a little while so I hope that I'll be able to finish my RP character. But incase I don't I want everyone here to know that you'll always be my friends and that you've helped me in ways beyond words.

I need some rest, the last good nights sleep I had was Wednesday night.
See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Saturday, April 8, 2000 01:51:25 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

Blue (primarially blue)

TRON: As an engineer, it goes without saying that I have seen and enjoyed it. One of my roomies got MAME only to play the TRON frisbee arcade game.

Shadowrider> zapped: In this instance, it can be approximated as electrocuted, or maybe just shocked with static electricity. Zap is also often used as onomatopea for raygun-type blasts. I also believe it was a comic book (sequential art) by Scott McCloud.

Warpmind> <<you're completely unfamiliar with the Werewolf RPG, right>>: Boo yah. Sadly, all my experience with RPGs is in electronic media. But I have heard that many strange and humorous things may happen in those versions experinced in the medium of wood pulp and graphite. I was just saying that Harvey is a cannonical name for an anthropomorphic rabbit (or one of Owen's biological siblings).
<<I've had one chance to see "Holy Grail", and I missed it>>: Shame on you. But then, if you did see it, you would has played it again for the next few months, while the remaining years of your life would be passed in a haze of quotes. (odd note: last night, during Jedi, one of my roomies started quoting Huttese at the same rate as the movie, immediately commenting "I have never seen this before." He makes a habit out of this.)

Niamhgold> <<unfortunately, I can't write>>: Rot and bother. I'm still waiting to see what happens with Lex's column. And you have an average of 4.75 stars per fanfic. Leave it to us left-brained engineers to not write.

Sev. Jr.> <>: Heh. I'm the one living a sheltered life. I have a painfully victorian vocabulary.

Gunjack> <<could you possibly repost the second song by "the band" that you posted a week ago>>: Right. My AIM is gside42 and my ICQ# is 20884812 w/nickname gside. If you (and anyone else, Fire Storm) see me on, bug me for any file I've already posted (I'm going to keep the rest stashed until I get around to posting it). Watch out, though. I have been tending to leave my AIM on all the time, forgetting to turn it back on after the network throws up (or I'm playing FF7... see parentheses 2), and I've been tending to leave ICQ off (to conserve resources... !@$# laptop), but if you tell me that you only use that, I'll start leaving it on.
<<"the band">>: No need for quotes, both words should be capitalized.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Saturday, April 8, 2000 01:32:34 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

I just answered Aaron's poll in the Station 8 room, and it felt really weird. I guess home is where the heart is, and it's right here. *group hug*

Kit> Shoot. I want to see a pic of Brooklyn's parents. I bet his father was a hunk! ;)
SOROW
Saturday, April 8, 2000 01:19:42 AM
IP: dll2a030-0809.splitrock.net

*Valentine delurks and glances around*

Well, I must say that the atmosphere in here has vastly improved in the last few days... Here's to hoping that it stays that way...

As to good news, I found out today that the collage I'm hoping to go to offered me a $10,000 scholarship. Better even than Folger's for waking up...:)

Gside - That "King of Spain" was easily the weirdest piece put up yet! I *LOVED* it! By the way... *looks timid* could you possibly repost the second song by "the band" that you posted a week ago? Sorry to keep asking this...

*Activates his cloaking device and re-lurks*
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 01:03:22 AM
IP: nas-48-163.dallas.navipath.net

...
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 12:56:39 AM
IP: nas-48-163.dallas.navipath.net

Quickie Post

Episode One>Definately the worst Star Wars movie so far, probably the worst thing about it was Jar Jar Binks, the worst comic relief character I've seen in a long time.

I'll finish this when the room gets wiped.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 12:54:13 AM
IP: spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com

Test Results: I usually hate tests, but these were kind of fun.

Apparently I'm only 37% bastard, with 21% of that being 'tard. But that's much better than the average, which was fifty something.
BTW, no offense to Green Baron or any other Catholics in the room, but I voted *for* the Pope masturbating.

I'm 90% on the love test. Goddamnit, I really AM a romantic.

I will apparently only have sex with 13 people in my life. This is somewhat depressing. How can I put this but....I've almost reached that number (being the stud that I am, *wink wink*), and to think my sexual escapades would be over so quickly....

I am 81% Un-Telligent (that's UN-Telligent, not unintelligent). Which means I'm a badass and my wallet says "Bad MoFo". If you're ever stuck in Alaska being pursued by a big grizzly bear named Zeus, or if you want to know how to perform the Chinese nipple torture on unsuspecting muggers, I'm your man.

And I'm a sexy 69% pure. THAT is surprising. I must be living a sheltered life.
I was fairly amused, though, when on that particular test they asked about rimjobs and blumpkins.
And for the record, that's in code, so I don't think the mysterious phantom 8-yr. old would know what the hell I'm talking about.

Reboot fans, rejoice: Good news for those who liked the show Reboot--Mainframe is planning on making a couple Reboot *movies*. Looks like they will just be made for TV broadcast, but any Reboot movie is better than no Reboot movie, I suppose.

Babylon 5: I honestly believe that this is the best science fiction tv show. Ever. Star Trek is good, but in its finest moment, I don't think Trek can even match up against something the quality of "Comes the Inquisitor" or "A Late Delivery from Avalon".
BTW, if you don't like Babylon 5, creative consultant Harlan Ellison may show up at your door to punch you in the mouth. ;)

Entity: It seems as if this whole Lucas thing was debated way back when the movie came out last summer. It's like I said then--yeah, it may be "his universe". But if I think "his universe" is crap, then I have the right to criticize what he does with it. I especially have the right, as a fan of the original trilogy, to criticize the new films if I feel they are not as good of quality as the originals.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, April 8, 2000 12:17:50 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

To add even more humor....

Disclaimer: I have nothing against the HMO plans, I am a member of one and have had nothing but excellent service and care. However, I still find great humor in the following ;)

TOP 10 SIGNS THAT YOU JOINED A CHEAP NEW HMO...
10. Your annual breast exam is conducted at Hooters.

9. Directions to your doctor's office include, "Take a left when you enter the trailer park."

8. The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

7. The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.

6. The only item listed under Preventive Care coverage is "An apple a day."

5. Your "primary care physician" is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.

4. "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges" is not a typo.

3. The only expense covered 100% is embalming.

2. With your last HMO, your Prozac didn't come in different colors with little "M"s on the pills.

And the Number 1 Sign You've Joined a Cheap HMO . . .
1. You ask for Viagra; you get a Popsicle stick and duct tape. ^_^

Jannie
Friday, April 7, 2000 11:42:10 PM
IP: 64-240-37-53.hou.port.mytelco.com

Just refer to me by my initials, which are DPH (shorter to type than Daniel). That should avoid any confusion.

**SOLAR-POWERED LIGHT BULB SAGA CONTINUES**
"DC, are you there?"

"Yep. Who stole my solar-powered light bulbs?"

"That person has offered me a bigger bribe."

"Did I mention I know a spell that will SEPARATE your connection to Mr. C?"

"You're kidding, right?"

"Nope. So who is it?"

"I would rather face the other person's wrath than yours."

"Your demise is imment, now, DC."
**END SOLAR-POWERED LIGHT BULB SAGA**

My definition of ultimate good: after looking at all points of view, deciding what is best for everyone involved.

In the Gargoyles/TGS universe, does Oberon answer to anyone?
Daniel Paul Hightower
Friday, April 7, 2000 09:42:48 PM
IP: max1-23.cwy.cei.net

Hi all, hope you all had a good week.

whoever put up the info on TheSparks.com tests thanks, I just had a great time LMAO at their tests: turns out I'm 58% un-telligent with a good eye for details and a great sense off humor (though slightly preverted-if they only knew!)

so now we need a little humor, here are some actual commets from job evaluations....who in the world has time to hunt these up? But they are fun

(1) "Since my last report, this employee has reached rock
bottom.....and has started to dig."

(2) "His men would follow him anywhere, .. but only out
of morbid curiosity."

(3) "I would not allow this employee to breed."

(4) "This employee is really not so much of a 'has-been',
but more of a definite 'won't be'."

(5) "Works well when under constant supervision and
cornered like a rat in a trap."

(6) "When she opens her mouth, it seems that it is only
to change feet."

(7) "He would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle."

(8) "This young lady has delusions of adequacy."

(9) "He sets low personal standards and then consistently
fails to achieve them."

(10) "This employee is depriving a village somewhere
of an idiot."

and my personal favorite:
11)"This employee should go far, ..... and the sooner he
starts, the better."

catch you all next time!
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Friday, April 7, 2000 08:55:03 PM
IP: twin57aw.magiclink.com

Hey all,

Wow. I'm happy to see "Giri" has met with such praise. Thanks, everybody! Though let me tell you, it'll get stiff competition in the coming weeks. :)

EPISODE I> Personally, I resent Lucas.

You can say it's his franchise and he can do with it whatever he likes... but you could also say that in the last decade and a half the franchise has become an entity in its own right. Think of it like Oberon in "Isle Met By Moonlight." Avalon is Star Wars and the Clan is us.

You can say Lucas could've not made an Episode I at all... but you could also say that maybe that would've been better. Then childhood dreams would simply have gone unrealized, not shattered. I have plenty of childhood dreams that have gone unrealized. I can live with that.

One big thing that I think factored into the movie's failure: the trailer. The full trailer for Episode I was incredible. And thus, misleading. My heart was pounding when I first saw it, but my heart never pounded while watching the actual movie. The trailer sets an entirely different mood. All of the script, plot, character and acting nits aside, this was a big thing. Episode I was a light and frivalous adventure. But the trailer (especially that last thirty seconds, if you recall) made it out to be packed with tragedy and drama, which Lucas specifically said Episode I wasn't supposed to be. So who made that trailer?
Entity
Friday, April 7, 2000 08:54:01 PM
IP: nic-30-c37-089.mw.mediaone.net

about aliens...: i'd have to say {in no particular order}:
Stargate SG-1
Farscape
Babylon Five {i think the Vorlons're in the Non-Corporeal category}.

Rodlox
Friday, April 7, 2000 08:19:26 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

I have to agree with Christine. Most of the Episode I aliens were annoying. Which is sad since I really like aliens.

Speaking of aliens, what series do you think has the best depiction of them. My pick for this is Babylon 5. A lot of variety and a lot of depth into their cultures. Instead of one race being war-like or peaceful, they are mostly both. And they take a lot of forms. humanoid, insect-like, non-corporeal (Sp?), and I still don't know what category the Vorlons fall under.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, April 7, 2000 07:34:59 PM
IP: dialin-656-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**A cloaked figure sneaks in the CR. Looking back around the corner, Mec is satisfied he hadn't been followed.**

Speaking of conspiracies, I just found out today that I have been subject to one. My own family conspires against me!! Just can’t trust anyone nowadays. Fortunately, some family members can’t keep a secret. Now, granted I spend a lot of time writing, reading, watching TV, or doing homework; I realize this. Now I find that I’ve been the hapless victim of several devious plots throughout the week to undermine my normal productiveness and get me outside my home. If I were a paranoid man I might make a connection to a deeper plot than that of “Oh, we felt that you needed to get out more,” line I received to day. At the beginning of the week my mother was sick with the flu, or was she? My brother makes several unannounced visits and either keeps me busy or disappears from my sight for long periods of time. Several times I was wisked away from home only to return to find someone home early. Today I am all but bribed to accompany a friend to town. When we return around 1:30, My father has come home from work sick… or so he said. Good thing I’m not paranoid.

Shadowrider>> The light cycles in Tron is my favorite part as well! It’s refreshing to meet find other people who remember and enjoy a classic like Tron.

Christine>> <most of the aliens were annoying ... > Lucas was just being accurate, most of the aliens I know are annoying too. :)

RP>> If people want to skip RP’s that’s fine. It’s the reason we put the warnings up after all. I wasn’t originally going to get involved, but my overactive imagination just couldn’t stay out of it, so I gave in to temptation. I feel kind of bad that it causes a problem loading by making the room so big. If it is ever decided to move it to another room I can live with that. I’m here not because of the RP, but because I like to spend my time with my friends. And though I’m sorely tempted to post an RP segment here, I’ll refrain till tomorrow.

For all you Anime fans out there, remember the cartoon channel is hosting an all day anime-fest tomorrow!

Mecord
Friday, April 7, 2000 06:25:13 PM
IP: usr22.mtwest.net

** Niamhgold enters, rubbing her eyes **

Heh. The lack of sleep has *finally* caught up with me. Just in time for the weekend, at least :)

Tron: Ooh! I just read all the people who liked it, God Bless you all! Considering I'm quite young, that movie was the one that got me hooked to sci-fi...and I've never been able to let go :) It was on about a year or so ago, and the whole time I watched it, my brother was blowing raspberries at the screen. That kid just has no respect for the classics :)

Kitania: <frostbite> Thanks for your prayers! It looks like it's okay...the doc's gonna see what she can do about improving my circulation.

Christine: Conspiracies, huh? Well, they're brewing in my head, but, unfortunately, I can't write =)

Silverstar: It's too bad about you're friend getting in trouble. Isn't it interesting when you notice that only _one_ person ever gets in trouble when a fight's involved? My friend Brian always tries to break up fights when _his_ pals are involved, and he _always_ gets the blame. :(

All right, I need my sleep! See y'all!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, April 7, 2000 04:06:29 PM
IP: ncia73n.ncia.net

Jannie: <School principal from hedes> Why oh why do they let people like that have anything to do with children! Of course, the flipside of that are all the incredable teachers. I have had the honour and the misfourtune to, like you, have come into contact with both types.
***HORIBLE TEACHER TORTURE***
Upon her return to Gehennom, she notices that her fellow demonic persons are all inching away from her and keeping their distance. Then she notices the Prince of Evil himself comming towards her.
"Ah, you have returned home, I see. You did so well in your mission, I have personnaly prepared a special reward for you. Follow me please." The two of them decended into the 21st pit.
"I see the renovations have been compleated ahead of schedual, while I was above. I am quite impressed with the workmanship." She stated.
"I'm sure YOU are." Her leige- lord mentioned as he slowly inched away from her. "Right through this door, after you."
She entered the room, and the cheif demon quickly slammed the door closed behind her. Soon, her screams joined the others as all she inflicted upon others while he was in the world, was inflicted right back onto her.
***END HORRIBLE TEACHER TORTURE***

Revel: Wonder no more, for here is the answer: Where I am, it is not the _teachers_ per se, but the government who dictates the big ones.

Wilek: <who isn't twisted to some degree> Guilty, and proud of it ;)

Since I seem to be having so much trouble typing today, I had better go for a 3000 mile check- up. I wonder if I can read the new TD while I wait. Bye.
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, April 7, 2000 03:28:03 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

*Warpmind enters, handing DC a small envelope. "Hi, DC, I got you a job in China. Your flight leaves in ten minutes. You are either on it, or dead. Capisce?" DC leaves hurriedly.*
Well, I guess those chaps at the Shaolin Temple are going to be pleased with their new practice dummy... >:)

Fire Storm: Well, in a way, we have college-level education... but it does not function in entirely the same manner as the US system.Besides, most students have their own means of surviving... most of them not to be mentioned in polite company. ;) And as for the Independence Day aliens, yes, we know that for certain. In the movie, it was said (after telepathic contact with them) "They're like cockroaches, moving from world to world and taking their entire civilization with them."

Gside: Um, I mentioned Jacques Lapin as a part-jest Werewolf character... now, I may be wrong, but you're completely unfamiliar with the Werewolf RPG, right? ;)

Mecord: I beg to differ: I had never heard those questions before! Honest! However, I'm not unfamiliar with the *type* of test. :)

*Gasp* New TD episode! Must be off to read it when this post is finished!

Revel: Very well, I shall see if I can't acquire a copy of the first Wing Commander book, then... though my view of the Kilrathi may be somewhat incorrect, seeing as they're on my side in the Wing Commander IV (the only game I played - the DVD version is ASTOUNDING) game...

Kitania: I'm Chaotic Good, you say? Hmmm... weird, I feel more like Lawful Evil... ;)

Archwolf: Oh, I intend to ask the GM, if I get dragged into the game. :) (I'd be the most jumpy character, no doubt. Pun intended.)

Rodlox: Shame to say, I've had one chance to see "Holy Grail", and I missed it... :(

Christine: Yes, May is the month of conspiracies... I shall see what I can do. :) Oh, and I can already imagine the cover art. ;)

Well, that's the end of the post for now. Off to read Timedancer!

Hasta Mañana, bunch.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, April 7, 2000 02:51:58 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

All members of the Brooklyn Estrogen Brigade need to get over to the other room, and vote in the poll I started in there. Thanks.

SOROW> Good luck.

Christine> Yeah, Twin Peaks was great, wasn't it? I'd always hoped to find a way to cross it over with gargs. Oh, and remind me to tell you about the plan for the muppets version.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, April 7, 2000 02:07:20 PM
IP: ppp-49.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

<Shadowrider enters. Simply enters, no special effect this time>

Whoa, this week is ending, finally. I was beginning to believe it was going to last forever. OK, let's go.

Tests:> I'm 34% bastard (19% tard)
73% pure
I had no time to try the other tests, I'll do later.

Winterwolf:> Welcome here. I know I'm late, sorry. Do you like here?

GB:> The Gatezeers (did I spell it correctly?) seems interesting. I'll seek for something and try it.

Mecord, Taleweaver, Daniel:> I also like TRON a lot. I enjoy particularily the scene of the lightning bikes battle.

Delphi:> <LOL> Nice joke!

Fire Storm:> <<... I have been zapped so many times I was nicknamed "Sparky"!>> Sorry...but I haven't been able to understand what you meant with "zapped". Really sorry.

SJ:> Episode One: Well, it was not so bad...apart that fact that, if they had cut away a half of it or so, I shouldn't have noticed the difference. Actually, in that movie there were a few good scenes (the pod-race one, or the duel between the jedis and Darth Maul), and the remaining part of the movie was...vacuum. About Natalie Portman...she's very cute, you're right, but in the movie she managed not to change her face's expression for two hours; if it is not a record, it comes near. ;)
Hitler:<<Well, as Cincinatti Reds owner Marge Schott says: "Hitler wasn't bad at first. He just went a little too far." She quickly followed up that wonderful gem of a
remark with the assertion: "He sure built good roads".>> Hmmm, in Italy we have some people (a few, luckily) who say about the same about Mussolini. Appearantly, heads of [censored] manage to prosper at every latitude. The single thing to do with them, is to remember things as they actually happened, so to avoid repeating past mistakes.

Kitainia:> Well, I'm glad to hear you like my given name and my nickname. I was given a lot of nicknames in my life, but Ombra (BTW, it means "shadow") is my preferred one. Some friends of mine gave it to me 'cause I usually dress in dark - and 'cause they say I move so silently that I could walk a few centimeters past someone without him realizing I'm there. So, now my friends (and only my friends) call me Ombra. Needless to say, feel free to call me Ombra (or Marco, if you prefer it) as you like :). Your true name is Lisa, isn't it? I like it. My preferred cousin has the same name...;).
About storms...yes, I'm one of the folks that appreciate it, and I'm proud of it! :)
Oh, I was forgetting, take to Doug my best wishes for a quick healing (although it is probable that, as I'm writing this, he's already healed by himself) and for his tests. As we use to say in Italy : " In bocca al lupo! " .

***TD SPOILER***

Well...nothing to say. It is a very good episode. One of the best ones ever, for sure. The character of Sata as a young was very interesting, as well as Brooklyn's development. The Kitsune were also interesting. Reading the episode for some reason reminded me of a song:

"...forse lei dorme già
nella notte pregherà per te
ma tu non piangere
ridono spiriti le anome del bosco sanno che
non si scorderà te..."

(...maybe she already sleeps
in the night she'll pray for you
but you mustn't cry
spirits laugh
souls of the wood knows that
she'll not forget you...)

I don't know why, but it seems to me related to Brook and Sata...

***END SPOILER***

Cyborg:><<I'm all Irish, a first generation in the new world, but I have grown up with alot of Italian culture, because my mother was adopted by an Italian family as a
girl. Does that make me 50/50? >> As far as I'm concerned, yes! :)

Archwolf:> <> Hmmm, knowing Brooklyn, it is not improbable...and I'd like to see Sata's expression in this case! ;)

Well, probably I'm forgetting something...oh, well, I'll post later. Gotta go now!

"Se la terra è tonda e se il mare è blu
da che mondo è mondo il forte vince e non sei tu!"
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, April 7, 2000 01:58:48 PM
IP: h213-2-60.mi.infinito.it

Call for Submissions > May is Conspiracy Month at Sabledrake; time for all you Illuminati experts to <fnord>. Send articles, stories, pics, etc. to me at christine@sabledrake.com

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, April 7, 2000 12:38:20 PM
IP: 15-142.009.popsite.net

Fire Storm - ><Yes, Los Angeles for G2001 is OFFICIAL. No going back now.>
Funny... I thought that the people at actually attended the gathering (G2K for this example) decided it there. Thats what the con parties at the previous gatherings
was about, right?
What happened to the other bids? >>

Actually, the people attending the con have NEVER voted or made the decission for the following years bid. Yes, they had bid parties... but that was to impress the STAFF of the current year. Instead of having a bid party this year. We made web pages and submitted our bids to the G2K staff.

I am not sure how the G2K staff handled the other bids. I am sure they can bid for 2002 if they are still interested... or even have a mini-Gathering instead. Lots of options open to them.
CrzyDemona
Friday, April 7, 2000 12:15:24 PM
IP: 209.150.94.69

Well I am back. Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I am trying to catch up on the room soo
1 Doctor who Baker all the way
2 there are actual stories/myths of loki saving thor and odin’s life.
Hmmm I try and catch up later on the rest

ironwolf
Friday, April 7, 2000 11:49:26 AM
IP: host-209-214-41-222.cha.bellsouth.net

Fire Storm: > Re: Starship Troopers >> I complete forgot about the tv series. Yes I was referring to the movie when I stated 14 VFX/Animation companies. As for the TV Series... I gave up after watching like 2 episode cuz thats all they showed. The character movement in that series was a little bit smoother than what I have seen in the past, but still a little stiff.

For all of you Lara Croft Fans, here is a little tibbit I got from my source on the upcoming movie: "After weeks of being in "final negotiation", a press release came out
yesterday now officially confirming that Oscar winner Angelina Jolie will be playing Lara Croft" (Has anyone managed the mechanics to the game, I've tried one game, and found it to be very difficult to move the character around).

Later.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Friday, April 7, 2000 08:06:24 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Fun news: I just got a new t-shirt: "Rutgers, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Coca-Cola Corporation" "Always Rutgers, always Coca-Cola"
Professionally done, too. If you didn't tell, there's some bitterness towards Coke here. And you're invited Wednesday for a rogue Pepsi (Mountain Dew) sale by Old Queens.

SRSJr.> Lucas: Yeah, all the Star Wars movies are quite fun. We just started watching them in reverse real-time chronological oreder last night.

Revel> <>: Of course. Did you really need to ask?

Fire Storm> odd mp3: sut wait until Fru:vous's The Drinking Song, Good Date Band, Klaatu's Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft, Tom Rush's Original Talking Blues (he also did Cocaine), and of course the cannonical Istanbul and Lumberjack.
Life is a Carnival> If you don't find it, tell me and I'll post my AIM/ICQ info (I've poached enough GBaron, Archwolf...).
floppy: We just need cheap, rewriteable, removable mass media that holds a good number of average modern media files (a/v).
<<<Even flops like "Howard the Duck"> HEY! Whats wrong with Howard?>>: Nothing, just not enough people saw it.
<<Not everyone is blessed with T1, DSL, 56k, or even 33.6>>: Don't forget ethernet. or does a T1 count even when you share it?

Wilek> <<<<around here you can't find someone who isn't twisted to a certain degree.>> Who else here considers that a compliment>>: Yoho!

Daniel Johnson> <<Isn't it fascinating how Gargoyles fans seem to have many other common interests>>: Mass fandom unconsiousness. Or, interest in one thing mokes one more receptive to interests on other, semi-related areas.
<>: Just start posting as Danny-boy. (The pipes, the pipes, are calling)
<<...and won't subject you to my mad ravings>>: Isn't that the whole point of the CR?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Friday, April 7, 2000 01:51:19 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Fire Storm > oh, I'm sure that those who really want to see me as a babbling imbecile will eventually get their chance. Another all-night bull session at a future Gathering would do the trick quite nicely.

RP > while I neither participate nor read them, I think that encouraging creativity and spontenaity (sp?) in a forum that gets people cooperating and working together is a good thing.

Episode 1 > well, Tim just brought home our copy. I thought the story was shaky, the pod race was overdone, most of the aliens were annoying ... but I will watch it anyway, over and over, or at least select parts of it. For reasons I'm sure are apparent.

And speaking of deep aching hopeless crushes ... I've been watching the Twin Peaks episode tapes at work for the past few weeks. Agent Cooper, be still my heart! Though it's weird even for me, not being a regular X-Files watcher, to see David Duchoveny in drag -- nice legs, btw. And Tony Jay was in it too ... this was at least ten years ago and he was far older than I expected!

I'm rambling ... Thursday, my goofy day. See, Fire Storm, from zero to babbling imbecile in less than four minutes! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, April 7, 2000 12:09:28 AM
IP: 16-206.009.popsite.net

Saw _El Dorado_ today....
**SPOILERS FOR PART OF _EL_DORADO_**
Didn't anyone else [here] notice the paralels? I mean you have:
1) two captains of the guard, both only wanting the best, both backstabbed...
2) creatures of stone coming to life...
3) a good attempt to handle real issues!

i'd been wondering, up till i saw it, how a cartoon was going to handle depicting an essentially Pre-Columbian MesoAmerican culture....the Mayans and Aztecs were both fairly bloody, even in their ritual.

i guess the "as you know, you are gods, and therefore must..." was inevitable...but they pulled it off better than most shows. {mental image of Brooklyn telling Little Jade and Lex "as you know, we are gargoyles, and therefore turn to stone when the sun rises."}.
**END SPOILER**

on a side note, the gargoyles in The Green, if they really were living alongside the Mayans...then they shouldn't have minded the clear-cutting - as that was something the Mayans did frequently.

Archwolf, Warpmind: <<Werebunny, huh? Damn...trying to figure out how much rage you would get, how you would inflict fear in your enemeis...what gifts you would get...If you can pull it off, go for it.>> well, if it helps, remember the "foul cruel beast...rrabbitt" in Monty Python's Holy Grail? is there an anti-Rage, where you lull your opponent into such a false sense of security that -

ATTACK!!

like that? ::)

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Friday, April 7, 2000 12:06:55 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*An odd noise fills the CR. For a moment nothing happens, but then an object materializes in the middle of the room...and it looks like a green police call box. A door opens and Archwolf steps out* JellyBabies, any one? Tom Baker was the best Doctor, hands down. *pats his pockets*now where did i put that sonic screw driver?

**TD Spoiler***
I liked it. I agree with most of the others, this is one of the best of all times.

I wonder if, when Brook and Sata are re-united, he will say something to the effect "See, little jade, I kept my promise"

just curious
**End Spoiler***

Warpmind>Werebunny, huh? Damn...trying to figure out how much rage you would get, how you would inflict fear in your enemeis...what gifts you would get...If you can pull it off, go for it.

Cyborg>Thank ye much!

Shade and Sweet water all!
*Steps into the callbox and dematerializes headed for: E-Speace!*
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:49:42 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Kyryn: Thanks for answering my question. The title definitely works as far as I'm concerned, not that I know what it means. :)

Jannie: Sorry I forgot to say this earlier but I agree that your principal is a definite selfish <bleep>. Good luck getting away from her, and with your new job. I agree with you that our nation's public school system really needs a major revamping (hope it gets done soon).

Todd: Guess that was someone else who mentioned Xanatos reforming thanks to seeing what Oberon did with ultimate power. Sorry I mistakenly thought it was you. :(

Wilek: Oh, right, the crows. I've heard that rumor, should have remembered it. Didn't think they were bad black stereotypes myself, of course I have never really known too many stereotypical people of any kind, black included. :) Doug sends his thanks for your well-wishes related to his recent bout with the flu.

SOROW: Congrats on winning the tryouts, good luck with the captain contest next week. Glad you and I shared so many thoughts about Timedancer (wonder if we'll ever see Sata's real father in any later episodes :).

Firestorm: Thanks for explaining your stand, good comments. I don't agree with all your points, as I still support the RP no matter what, but I do think they are good for knowing about someone of your perspective. :) Just a few comments I wanted to make relating to them-
- I agree with you that the RP's a continuing story, and I also am one of the people who does not like it when people post their stories in here. However, I see the RP as an exception to this dislike for three reasons:
1. Anyone can contribute to it, and people are encouraged to as well. Usually when someone else posts one of their stories in a CR, they act protective of it afterwards and tell people not to even look at their story. RP is something we all do together, and thus a communal CR activity, not just a story one person writes (yes, I know only a few of us do it regularly, but still...:P). Those who don't like it can also just skip over it as you usually do.
2. There is no official rule that says we can't post our stories in here if we want to. Yeah, people may not like it, but according to the rule list it's okay. Thus I have no problem with the RP being seen as a story, and since we have rules governing it on the official rule list that makes it even more okay as far as I'm concerned.
3. I enjoy contributing to the RP myself, and thus I'm biased towards it. :) I have always been entertained by it, and have usually not been by the complete stories people have posted in here. Thus I can more easily tolerate it. We don't just do RP for attention (the reason why people who post their complete stories in a CR usually do that IMO), we do it for fun. And it is fun. To us, anyway. :)
- I personally would not ignore this room if RP wasn't allowed in here, I visit the main s8 CR often as a lurker and occasional poster even though RP isn't allowed in there. I would do the same thing with this room, I've set down good roots in here and want to hold on to them as well as all the friends I've made. Of course, as you said, the RP has put down some big roots in here as well. I'm also very proud of those, and that's one of the main reasons I want to keep RP alive in here. (It's also the main reason I'll keep RPing in here and not a seperate RP-only CR even if one is built, no offense to the many supporters of the idea.)
- <Also, by having RPers say that they won't post in here as much if there wasn't RP, this CR is not only bowing down to a clique, they are almost encouraging non-TGS stories to be posted in this CR. > I agree with this statement, although I don't know where you got the idea that RPers were saying they wouldn't post in here as often if there wasn't RP. I honestly can't recall having ever heard anyone say that in here. I know Doug and I don't post as often as we used to, but that's not because we've been the only real major RP participants recently (no offense meant to all other participants by saying this, sorry) and we want to keep it going. It's not that at all. It's much more due to the increase in demands our lives have placed on us with school, work, his fanfic, keeping the apartment clean, running errands, paying the bills, and so on. We don't have the time for this place we once did. :( But every so often we still make time to come in here and talk about the things we like to with the people we like. RP is just one of the many of those, and a rather minor one compared to the friendships we have in here that we have cultivated (note- it's true that RP has helped us do that somewhat, but still, the friendships are more important than the RP, at least to me and Doug). If RP were outlawed in here, I know I would be very sad, but I wouldn't stop coming. I like this place too much. :) As for whether RP is non-TGS stories and thus shouldn't be allowed, refer to my above bit about it being ongoing stories. There is no rule that says non-TGS stuff can't be posted in here, there are rules governing RP so people can skip over it if they want, all who participate in it enjoy it (I think), so what's the big deal? <hangs head> Please don't reiterate your previous comments, I know them and can understand your feelings. The fact is, outlawing RP just because it's non-TGS stories would really be bad for this CR IMO. It would make people think this place was just for TGS stuff and turn the whole room into a clique, not just a small part of it. We have plenty of other interesting topics to discuss in here besides just TGS and I for one think it should definitely stay that way. None of us is planning to sue the TGS staff if they take ideas from our stories and posts (at least not to my knowledge, and hopefully not in truth either) and like you've always said, if people don't want to have their ideas polluted by someone else's, they can just not read anyone else's stories. That includes the ones in the RP. <sighs> Hope I haven't offended you by saying this, I'm not meaning to. I'm just saying what I feel.
- I can certainly understand your modem troubles, I suffered from them myself back in the days before we got a new and faster one. Maybe as friends, we ought to all get together and buy each other faster modems for our birthdays. That might be a good bonding arrangement and nice thing to do for people, does anyone agree? <Note- not encouraging this, I know all too well how many of us can't afford something like it, for right now it's just an idea>

More later. Have to go now. Bye all.
Kitainia
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:41:42 PM
IP: pool-209-138-202-15-dlls.grid.net

Well, it seems that I am yet again a member of our school drill team. We just had our tryouts tonight and I'm beat. I'm now a three year member! YEA! The only other stress factor this month now is that I try out for captain next week. Wish me luck!

***TD SPOILERS***
Kit> You and I have exactly the same mind! In the beginning, I also thought that Akai was Sata's father because of his green color and black hair, and I also thought that he was a Timedancer before Brooklyn. But after Akai looked into the pond, it all made sense that Akai and Brooklyn were the same. I think it's really sweet that Sata actually knew Brooklyn before she met him, but only as a friend named Akai who one day decided to leave Ishimura and promised to come back one day. I wonder if Brooklyn will ever tell her that Akai was really him. Something tells me that things would be better if she didn't know. All in all, a great ep!
***END SPOILERS***

Sweet dreams!
SOROW
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:38:10 PM
IP: dll2a010-0102.splitrock.net

Wilek> <<(Is it just me, or does this woman do these things for the specific purpose of ticking people off?)>> Exactly on the nose! She set up the 1st grade teachers this past week by going to one to discuss taking over the GT class for next year - without discussing this with the current GT teacher.. the current one found out thru the grapevine, confronted the principal and she LIED (as usual) saying that she didn't know anything about it....then proceded in bad mouthing the other teacher to this one. *shakes head* professional? nope.. trash!
Thank you for your nice compliment about the teachers in this room ;)
Unfortunately there are bad teachers in the educational field. They are a disgrace to the profession.
Private schools are just as bad - the volume is just not as great and they are more tight-lipped about what goes on behind closed doors... they are not regulated by state laws to reveal all that goes on, so you don't hear about them unless it's major news. Private schools have the right to refuse admittance too. But, public schools need a major overhaul and I'm afraid that it won't be in our lifetime that will ever happen. *sighs* I know that a lot of teachers just become so frustrated and if they try to fight the establishment, their butts are strung up - so they give up and just put in their time.

Jessie> dude! ;D
Jannie
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:21:53 PM
IP: 64-240-37-187.hou.port.mytelco.com

Isn't it fascinating how Gargoyles fans seem to have many other common interests? Let's see some recent examples: Doctor Who, Tron, Buffy/Angel, Monty Python, Tolkien. And Howard the Duck?! I remember that. Hysterical. I guess this means we all have incredibly good taste. Of course, if we like Greg's creation, that's pretty much a given, right? :)

I see we have another Daniel in here now. I hope it doesn't get too confusing, or I'll have to change my name to something nicely inconspicuous like Ford Prefect. In any case, welcome!

Winterwolf:
Always a pleasure to meet a fellow Who fan. I've seen every extant episode, have about half of them on tape, and have been accused of being a walking encyclopedia of Who trivia. Coincidentally, I just started watching my tapes again after several years. I have always had a hard time choosing a favorite Doctor, but I think I like the Jon Pertwee era the best. I liked the quality of the stories then best. And, of course, Roger Delgado's Master is one of the best villains of all time. :)

You know, I've been interested on and off in Doctor Who for almost 20 years, same for Tolkien (which reminds me that it's about time to reread LotR), but my interest is always cyclical. And yet I've been a fan of Gargoyles for about 6 years now, and my interest has not waned. Much of that is due to the quality of the show to begin with, but the quality of the fandom has sustained my feelings. And speaking of quality fandom...

****** SPOILER ******

IMHO Giri is among the top Timedancer episodes to date. And that opinion seems pretty common so far. It was certainly among the more emotional episodes; this kind of story has always been my favorite. To me the strength of fanfic is its ability to delve into the characters' minds and emotions in a way that is very difficult in a half-hour TV show. I like action on TV, but I prefer character development in the written form. My favorite fanfics, both TGS and otherwise, spend more time exploring the characters and their interrelationships rather than lots of action and cataclysmic battles between Good and Evil.
Ack. I'm rambling. Please feel free to smack me when I do that.

Anyway, I suspected that Akai was Brooklyn, but I had no idea how. And I was convinced that he HAD asked the Kitsunes to change him. Good suspense. Did anyone NOT know that "little jade" was a young Sata? The connection between them was great A real "Awww" moment. So now you know I'm a hopeless romantic. Of course, Goliath and Elisa will always be my favorite. :)

So a good job all around. The pictures were great too. Thank you. All the hard work is appreciated.

****** END SPOILER ******

One more thing before I go to bed. I heard a couple of things that got me thinking all day. One is that some kindergartners here in NJ were suspended from school because they pointed their fingers at someone and said "bang." You know, the way all kids that age have always done. I guess the principle was afraid they were going to bring guns to school the next day and really shoot someone. The other is that some woman tripped and fell while jogging. So logically the next step WAS to sue Nike, wasn't it? After all their sneakers MUST have caused her to fall.

I stewed on this all morning pondering guns and gun control, as well as such non-controversial topics as abortion and drugs, and finally ended up composing a virtual dissertation in my mind that could be titled: "The Abdication of Personal Responsibility in America Today." I even did some research. Fortunately for you, I've calmed down considerably since then, and won't subject you to my mad ravings. Besides, I really don't feel like typing it right now. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:16:50 PM
IP: ppp-27.rb5.exit109.com

**TIMEDANCER SPOILERS, COMMENTS, AND A SINGLE NIT-PICK {please don't kill me}**

after i saw the picture, i thought maybe it was Graeme as an adult.

neat story!!

mass amnesia...remind me not to go there&then!!

nitpick:

<<"Take the Gate," he offered. Both Kitsunes reacted with shock. "Your time-traveling toy?" Brooklyn nodded enthusiastically, as he pushed the Gate forward. Inu bent down and picked it up. "It’s yours," he assured him. Then, he looked up to Kemuri. "If you’ll fulfill my wish?">>

with respect, shouldn't that be three paragraphs? first brooklyn talking, then the kitsune, then brooklyn again.

just a thought. sorry.

**END TIMEDANCER SPOILERS**

Rodlox
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:58:16 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Random Entertainment Stuff: The big news out today is that Angelina Jolie IS confirmed to be playing Lara Croft in the upcoming Tomb Raider live-action movie. If all goes well, we shall see tight tank tops and cut-off shorts aplenty.
Seriously, though, what I'd really like to see is an honest explanation about her relationship with her brother. There's something just plain freak going on there between those two. I got reeeeal creeped out at the Oscars.

A plea for help--does anyone know anything at all about Fortune City? I know that they offer free web pages, and they promise 100 MB. Is their site FTP oriented? Is it a decent web hoster? Much obliged to whomever gives me the info.

Kitiana: Glad you and Doug liked Romeo Must Die. Granted, it's not the *best* movie I've ever seen, and it won't be winning next year's Academy award. But it's a fun movie. Some good martial arts, some nice humor, but overall I must say I appreciated how the writer actually went through the trouble of building the characters instead of just making them your standard stereotypes (You know, I actually thought Delroy Lindo was a pretty cool father, crooked gangster lifestyle aside ;) Glad you enjoyed it. :) Maybe this weekend I'll get to see the Sam Jackson movie, as I am a fan of his (and there doesn't look like there's any other good movies coming out this weekend. I like wrestling, but even I don't think I can suffer through 2 hours of David Arquette, even if he is being bodyslammed by Bill Goldberg ;)

Fire Storm: Ah, the age old RP debate again. Here's the idea--have somebody make an RP only room. Whoever's in charge here can do that (I forget who exactly, it seems to change from week to week). That is, of course, unless we get people bitching about how it's "spreading the fandom too thin". I'd be first in line to sign up for the RP-only room, actually. Then there'd be no more "RP clique", and one more problem solved.

Stephen: No offense to you Steve....but thank you for inadvertently proving my point about everything I've said about this comment room in the past week.
Look, it was all a JOKE. I'll admitt, I occasionally portray Lucas as evil, cause I don't particularly respect anything the man has done outside of the original trilogy. I'm just not impressed by the man outside of his original work. Yes, I'm poking fun at him. Being so high profile, he's ridiculously easy to poke fun at. Do I actually have real animosity towards him? No. That doesn't mean I'm not glad when he loses like he did to the Matrix at the Oscars, because it's my *opinion* (and gee, isn't that becoming an important buzz word in this room) that he didn't deserve to win the award. And he can do whatever he wants to do with his franchise, but if I don't like the finished product, then I do have the right to criticize it and him. I may portray him as a tyrant, but you can rest assured that I do it all in jest. I don't really think he's brainwashing people.
This is all I'm gonna say about it: In the second line of the post directed at Wilek, I started the sentence with "Seriously though". Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I would think that would be enough to show that I was just being a smartass and didn't really mean any of the stuff I had just finished saying.
I mean, really, if you didn't like me criticizing him, just say so without all the other stuff. Maybe I should feel special, though, cause I got a whole post devoted just to me ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:50:47 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**TD REVIEW**
An excellent story.
**END REVIEW**

Am I to assume if Gargoyles was re-animated and had mulitple sagas (Timedancer, Pendragon, Gargoyles, Dark Ages) that the toys sold would determine which sagas continue?

**CHAT WITH DC**
"DC, where are you?"

"Not within proximiaty of C."

"Very funny. Do you know where the solar-powered light bulbs that I left in this room are?"

"Hmm. Solar-powered light bulbs? OK. Somebody came in and removed them."

"Who?"

"I don't know the name."

"If I bribe you, will you force the person/people to return my solar-powered light bulbs to the room?"

"Sure."
**END CHAT WITH DC**
Daniel Paul Hightower
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:36:43 PM
IP: max1-71.cwy.cei.net

Rodlox> <<um...i forgot the questions...>> I think it was actually Mecord who asked them; I just didn't bother mentioning that for some reason (probably forgot). ;P
Wilek
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:11:05 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

<<Wow. Even Loki doesn't deserve that...>>

wasn't there a Pendragon or Gargoyles webisode {TGS}, where Loki was passing a pub, and shivered when he saw the outline of the Gate?

<<<> Thanks, to you and the others who've said this who I forgot to thank until now. ;P>> um...i forgot the questions...{then again, some people answer posts five or more days old, further confussing the issue}.

um, i'll shut up now.

Rodlox - [<- all the info i could find on Sigyn...anyone know anything more??]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:07:16 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**TGS SPOILERS!**

Mt. Zao? Kewl name. ^_^ <looks at the title bar> Um, the working title, A Dutiful Heart, is still in place. Not that I mind; it's kewl too. :) This jade-green child...is it me, or do I already know her name? :) The scene with 'Akai' and Yoshi at the pond/stream/whatever... O_O I REALLY didn't see that one coming...Kemuri-Kazan> *GREAT* pic (as if that were anything new for TGS). ^_^ All-around wonderful episode. Very Twilight Zone. 8)

**END**

Rodlox> <> It is. I co-opted it for my ficverse. ;)

SJ> <<The latest reported premise being passed around at Paramount is a series focusing on the "early days" of Trek--basically, they want to pull a George Lucas and go back and tell the history of the Starfleet>> Fascinating...I had thoughts of a Star Trek prehistory series, dealing with the Eugenics Wars or World War III...and the time-traveling thing sounds interesting...Hope this one gets made. ^_^ <<Episode one is your favorite? Oh, you poor boy. Don't let the Lucas brainwashing take hold!>> No cause for concern, lad; we merely have differing tastes (which is a good thing; if everyone liked the same things, the entertainment industry would be bloody boring). Hakuna matata. ;) (Besides, if my staff even suspected my mind were being altered, I'd be in a cell with a dozen deprogrammer psionicists in a heartbeat, and the person controlling me would get a nice close-up look at the business end of droideka artillery. <evil grin>) <<Seriously, though.....how cute was Natalie Portman? Huh?>> Extremely kewl. She had this whole Vorlon empress/Chinese porcelain doll image. And that *voice*... :D

Gside> <> I did with mine as well...sort of. Actually, they kind of derived themselves...that happens a lot with me. Spontaneous derivation; things just sort of combine themselves out of nowhere (pretty much my entire ficverse was built this way). :)

Stephen> Rant> It's called a 'joke', lad. Again: hakuna matata (annoying song, wise philosophy, at least in moderation). ;D <<this one wasn't done nearly as well as the original was, story-wise...>> I actually liked it; it was more conspiracy/political oriented than the previous ones. :)

Jannie> Evil principal> Ughh...if there be any justice in this world or the next, this woman will suffer a painful and humiliating death and an even more painful and humiliating eternal punishment in the Inferno. >8( (Is it just me, or does this woman do these things for the specific purpose of ticking people off?) As for 20 new kids...best of luck. O_O

David G> <<About Buffy, notice that whenever someone who only dabbles in the occult tries to cast major spells, the result is always bad.>> I haven't seen Buffy, but this makes sense--it's probably a *lot* easier to unleash powerful forces than to control them.

Winterwolf> <> Thanks, to you and the others who've said this who I forgot to thank until now. ;P <<for those that remember and liked Dr. Who, who was your favorite doctor?>> Um...the only one I can remember offhand is Baker. (But then, the only thing I remember in any detail about the show is the Daleks...)

Kitainia> <<on top of that Doug came down with the spring flu. Yep, that's what was making him feel so tired on Monday.>> ACK. Glad he's feeling better though. <<the uber-b&^ch snow goddess who put a snake above Loki in his prison and let its fangs drip poison onto him forcing Loki's wife Sigyn to catch the poison in a bowl so it wouldn't hurt her husband more than once every so often>> Wow. Even Loki doesn't deserve that...<> <blink> You know, I think you're right...I'm probably somewhere in between, but nicer. ^_^ <<What in [Dumbo] do you think should be censored (and what caused you to think I did)?>> There are rumours that the crows were rather unkind Black stereotypes. I haven't seen the movie, so I wouldn't know.

Fire Storm> <<THAT would be a video to show at the gatherings!>> I'd pay cash money just for photographs and an audio cassette. 8) <wonders where he left his portable IMAX theater> <<it appears that he was just bluffing. Ya know, just acting big and all.>> Ah, good. Then probably, what's left of the Mafia (all five or six of them) will rub him out for claiming he could have them do that to you. >:) <> Hm...does it always stop in the same places?

Silverstar> <<It's things like this that make me think there is no justice and that some people are morons!>> Welcome to public education. From what I've seen, this manner of thing happens to innocent people all the time; sorry to hear that your friend now has altogether too personal experience with it. :( There are good teachers (at least one of whom posts here :) ), but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. The social environment of the typical public school is a pretty good working model of Hell. <<around here you can't find someone who isn't twisted to a certain degree.>> Who else here considers that a compliment? :)
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, April 6, 2000 09:34:23 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

ACK!

Today, one of my friends was running in P.E. and there was this kid behind him. The kid was getting close to my friend and trying to cut between him and the wall when my friend turned around to see who was behind him and hit the kid. Then, because my friend accidentally hit him the dumb@## kid trips him. My friend got pretty beat up, and his legs were bleeding A LOT. That isn't the bad thing though. My friend might be suspended and the little *bleep* is going to be let off! I mean it was an sccident! And one of the teachers saw it hppen and said that it was my friends fault. It's things like this that make me think there is no justice and that some people are morons!

(sigh) Oh well! I just hope he doesn't get suspended.

Skippy> OHHH! Okay, I get what you are saying. Yah, it is too easy for people to get magic and use big spells without a lot of experience.

Wilek> <Wow. And I thought there weren't very many people that twisted> Normally you wouldn't find them. Yet around here you can't find someone who isn't twisted to a certain degree.

Well I better go. I still haven't read the new TD story yet.

*BYE*
silverstar
Thursday, April 6, 2000 07:20:05 PM
IP: l1p25.dav.mother.com

Color = Bright Pale Yellow

Gside: <King of Spain>
Ok... that is definately one of the wierder MP3s you have uploaded.
<Yeah I did. It was Life is a Carnival by The Band>
I *think* I got it. Let me check my backup hard drive to see for sure.
<MP3.com CD>
I just got one of them and the stuff I like was their techno stuff. The metal and alternative wasn't too good, IMHO

XenaTrek: <Now that its out, I just can't use my floopy drive, and I don't think I will be getting replacement for it>
Heck, there have been times that I have been without a floppy drive for over 2 years. Didn't really miss it until I needed to reinstall stuff.
Glad you didn't lose anything, though.
<"Starship Troopers" is a done by works from about 14 different animation/vfx studios>
The show or the movie?
I will agree that Mainframe definately specializes in character animations.

Aaron: <The old series, thanks be. The idea of a *new* Hammerman series is absolutely terrifying.>
My thoughts exactly.
Hammerman: TNG

Niamhgold: 
Thats more than I can say about the people I know. There are people I deal with that think I should marry her because we have been going out for more than a year!

Kyryn: <we would have a secondary site if the main server went down>
Hmm... good point. But how many people really had a link to the text-only site anyway?
I think most people would just wait until the main page comes back up.

Silverstar: <she said if I ever do she'd kill me before the viruses do>
Which is most likely true. There are so many precautions in there that it would be kinda hard to get infected.

Christine: <Mwould have melted all the synapses in my brain and they would have had to cart me out as a babbling imbecile>
Hmm... now THAT would be a video to show at the gatherings!

Wilek: <Eh? I thought I ordered them to lay off that.>
Thanks, but it appears that he was just bluffing. Ya know, just acting big and all.
<Strange...maybe it's just the CD-ROM drives I've had>
Could be. I know that my newer DVD drive will stop in the middle of The Matrix or The Sixth Sense, while my older drive will not.

SJ: <Unless they portray Jeri Ryan's breasts prominently.>
Well, didn't you know that Starfleet started on a beach where everyone wears bikinis? :)
<A separate room for RPs would fix that problem>
It's been sugested, but most of the RP'ers have objected.
<Don't let the Lucas brainwashing take hold!>
(In monotonus voice) Episode 1 was the best movie ever.
I love Jar-Jar
Darth Maul wears Doc Martins
Anakin is my hero
:)
ALTHOUGH, the games from episode 1 arn't too bad. Espicially when you don't have to pay for them!

Stephen Sobotka, Jr: I will agree that Lucas is not evil. I just think that he should have directed another movie first to get the hang of it again.
<Even flops like "Howard the Duck">
HEY! Whats wrong with Howard?

CrzyDemona: <Yes, Los Angeles for G2001 is OFFICIAL. No going back now.>
Funny... I thought that the people at actually attended the gathering (G2K for this example) decided it there. Thats what the con parties at the previous gatherings was about, right?
What happened to the other bids?

Kitania: <But please let me know if you disagree.>
Cliques rarely force others to join (at least on-line). Alot of them just think that "If you think differently than us, you are wrong."
I personally don't think that RP belongs in this room.
At least it is handled well in here. No one is forced into it and there are warnings posted.
BUT this is the TGS CR, not a general fic CR. Posting that your story is online is fine, as is a link to that story.
Posting a spoiler is tolerable.
But posting a complete story in here is NOT accepetable. And isn't RP a continuing story? On several occasions, people have posted their story (complete or incomplete) in here they have been basically yelled at, sometimes in the same post as a RP.
Yes, RP may not be a complete story, and yes it may be posted in parts, but a story is a story. And it takes up alot of space in this CR (~10%). I know people are proud of how long the CR gets, but try downloading a half-meg CR at 14.4 or 28.8
Not everyone is blessed with T1, DSL, 56k, or even 33.6
This CR takes some time for it to load onto my system. I can't imagine how it is for some of the people on a older computer or WebTV system.

Also, by having RPers say that they won't post in here as much if there wasn't RP, this CR is not only bowing down to a clique, they are almost encouraging non-TGS stories to be posted in this CR.

The main reasons RP is allowed in here are:
1. The CR Admin at the time RP started (DumlaoX) was involved in RP
2. RP was allowed to last for long enough to get very deep roots
3. It has become such a common appearance that people either ignore it or, if they are RP'ers, ignore this room if RP isn't allowed.

In the S8 CR, RP was snuffed out before it could really start, something that didn't happen in here.
In case you couldn't tell, I skip over the RP and RP related posts.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 07:14:18 PM
IP: t1-24.visitus.net

Welcome to all newcomers!

Pokemon 2000>Actually, they already have a third Pokemon movie in production and may start plans on a fourth one.

Daniel>Definately traditional animation.

Giri>Havnt read it yet, but I will when I finish this post.

Green Baron>Okay.

I'm off to the s8 CR now.
Bengali - [delphu@netscape.net]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 06:54:42 PM
IP: spider-wi073.proxy.aol.com

KITAINA - Um, actually, I don't recall saying anything about Xanatos's changes recently. And as for Fox and Alex, we know from Greg that Alex will still be around by 2158 (rather than 2153), but he hasn't said whether Fox will be around by then or not, or given any indications about her fate.

GREG BISHANSKY/SEVARIUS JR. - The rumors I've heard is that the "X-Men" series deals with the characters' adolesence so that it would be a sort of prequel, but they could be just rumors.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, April 6, 2000 06:27:12 PM
IP: 216.87.46.120.dialup-stl.primary.net

::Reads SJ's post on WB Lineup::

Jacki Chan Adventures> Why am I getting disturbing flashbacks to a cartoon from the 80s starring Mr. T? Ugh, the the.... <insert something horrible here>

On the X-Men cartoon, it has nothing to do with the movie. According to Bob Skir, that is. He left the series though so that may or may not change.

On other news I went to a book signing in Manhattan last night and met Terry Pratchet. Very witty and delightful story. He was going to do a reading but decided not to, since considering the American educational system a few of us could maybe read it ourselves.

Stephen> I agree with you on George Lucas. I had a lot of problems with Phantom Menace but I enjoyed a lot of elements as well. Particularly Sidious's Xanatosian scheme to control the Republic, Darth Maul, and of course Natalie Portman
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 06:16:27 PM
IP: dialin-83-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Thanks David G, but I already have lots of nice 'Con gifs...it's getting one on my car that's the challenge. Ah well. Trip to Maine in May...
Stormy - [<--Decepticons forever!]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 05:16:28 PM
IP: pc20.huron.uwo.ca

*** More TIMEDANCER SPOILERS ***

I loved this episode. Definantly the best this season, and maybe one of my all time favorites. It even manages to make some more sense of things that were a bit shakey in the early seasons, and ties nicely in with things in the main series.

This is exactly the sort of development I was hoping for, where Brooklyn has to face what he has probably given up for all time. (Of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if a future Brooklyn told the current Brooklyn that things would all work out somehow one of these days)

Now if we can just have a TD focusing on Sata in the future, I'll be truly happy. (Well, actually, I won't because true happiness takes more than a good TD episode, but you get the idea...)

*** END SPOILERS ***

In other news: I've been too snowed under by other things to keep up very well. If I've missed anything important, I apologize. I barely have time to skim the room these days.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 04:11:32 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

***Kyryn sneaks in for a moment***

***TD SPOILERS***

Kitania>I was waiting for someone to ask that. 'Giri' is a japanese word that translates as 'duty'. *grin* I didn't want to post any refs to it earlier for fear of lessening the episode effect.

***END TD SPOILERS***

Later All!

***Kyryn sneaks back out***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, April 6, 2000 03:35:05 PM
IP: 216.35.46.135

**RP HERE- DON'T WORRY YOURS DIDN'T MESS UP OUR PLANS, WILEK**

The LAPD guys who have just brought Doug, Kitainia, and those who were with them back to the huge paddy wagon holding all the other Ravens and their allies (there was a bunch of "They got you too?" and "Yep" dialogue before this) stare at Solomon Brand as he asks them what is going on. "Who are you?" one of them asks. "What's your business here?" "My name is Solomon Brand," Sol replies, handing them several identification cards. "As you can see from these documents, I am a licensed investigator of the Bureau of Explosives, Toxics, and Controlled Substances. My associates and I were investigating a plot by a terrorist group to blow up the Nielsen company building and kill its employees." "Well, there are several dead employees of the company in one of the rooms along with other dead individuals," points out LAPD Detective Kate Lockley, who is standing next to the Captain who initially addressed Sol. "Your associates' handiwork?" "And the terrorists'," Sol nods. "They are the other bodies you found. All but their leader and two others we managed to kill." "We have two in custody," the captain says. "We think. One's some kid with a nylon stocking on his head who was scared to death and confessed he was a criminal." "And the other was this big whitehaired guy who kept hitting on me until I knocked him out," adds Kate. "That's two of them!" Doug comments from the back of the paddy wagon. "The leader must have escaped," Kit adds, not wanting to explain to the cops about Asil. "And these are your associates?" Kate asks Sol, who nods once again. "Do you need to see their identification?" She looks at the documents he handed her, then at the Ravens and everyone else and says, "I don't think that will be necessary. I'd like to keep them in custody to find out exactly who and what they are, but you can probably have your fellow Feds figure that out." "It's classified, I'm afraid," says Griffex. "Of course it is," nods the captain. "Let them go, boys." The Ravens and Sol's associates smile as they are released, then all walk out of the paddy wagon and thank Sol as all the cops except for Kate (who is staying near them out of her own curiosity) turn from them and walk off to make sure the building was secure. Mist comes running out of nowhere and jumps up in Gubio's arms to be patted as the screen's image temporarily fades.

**PAUSE RP**

Hi everyone. Well, this week has so far been one hassle after another. I've had tests (and will have more soon), papers, all kinds of other school stuff, and on top of that Doug came down with the spring flu. Yep, that's what was making him feel so tired on Monday. He had to skip school a couple days in a row to get over it (lucky him, all his tests are next week!), but he's feeling much better now. And so am I, since I finally have a little time without some worry hanging over me. <cracks knuckles> Let me get caught up! :)

Shadowrider: So your real name's Marco Ombra, huh? Nice sound to that. :) Good cyborg and wu-tang names too. As for storms, I can see why you'd want to go out in one. I have known people in the past who enjoy them more than anything despite all the rain and lightning. Most of us may not be able to understand such folk, but they exist (and judging by your last post, you're one too :).

Rodlox: Interesting Timedancer ideas. I too am wondering if Loki's children and wife are still around in TGS. Having the wife try to find and free him might make an interesting storyline, especially if Skadi (the uber-b&^ch snow goddess who put a snake above Loki in his prison and let its fangs drip poison onto him forcing Loki's wife Sigyn to catch the poison in a bowl so it wouldn't hurt her husband more than once every so often) was in there too. There have to be other Norse mythological personalities besides Odin, Loki, and Sleipnir around in the Gargs Universe. I for one hope we see them soon. :)

Wilek: Chaotic evil/neutral means you're completely selfish and insane, whereas lawful neutral means you're like Owen and follow the law to the letter without complaint, generally seeing the world as balanced by it. I don't know if either really sounds like you. :)

Bengali: Thanks for understanding (about the bias last week). :)

Warpmind: I'll wait for the whole finished product to be ready if you don't mind. It will probably be more interesting than just what you have now. Looking forward to it whenever it's ready, may it be the next big game us Ravens enjoy! :) Oh, and btw, your alignment sounds like chaotic good from your description. About the same as mine. Party's on forever when we reach the afterlife, friend! <high five>

Theresa: Good bit about friendship, thanks for posting it. Thanks also for the Dalyight Savings Time reminder. That was another hassle I had to deal with this weekend. <sigh>

Ironwolf: Sorry about the loss of your grandfather, I've gone through losing both of mine and know how bad it can feel. I'm glad you seem over it now, but you still have my deepest condolences. <holds hand> Welcome back to the CR, friend. Hope you'll feel at ease if you remain.

Speaking of which...
Scott, SJ, Doug, Jenna, etc: I have read your posts on the CR's recent problems and I agree with them too. I was trying to stay out of the troubles when they were going crazy with flames and arguments as much as I could, but I want you all to know that if we are going to fix the problems in the CR that led to those flames in a peaceful and civil manner I will be glad to help. Not sure what I can do yet (right now I'm just trying to post in my normal friendly manner, hope that's a good start), but I do want to do something, anything, to make it so we can get back the friends we lost and don't lose any more. Please let me know if there's anything you think I can do. :) I also agree with Kaioto's post regarding the fandom in general and the standards we should have (thanks Kai!), and with both Kai and Mecord about the cliques in here (good comments all). We do have problems in here and we should not forget them, but we must be careful if we are to try and solve them. Hope I'm still a drifter (like Kai) and an RP-er at the end. :)

Firestorm: The RPers are a clique, huh? Well, I think I can agree with that. But I also don't think we're a problem clique for the CR generally, do you think otherwise? Don't be afraid to tell me if you do, we'll sort it out. The reasons why I don't think we are have pretty much already been covered by SJ- our only real social goal as a clique is keeping the RP going, we don't force people to join it or leave it (we give them that choice at any time), and we don't go after other CR members unless they came after us first for some reason (as you know). I don't think the RP has been that problematic so far, nor have its participants. I really hope I'm right in saying this, judging from other people's posts it looks like I am. :) But please let me know if you disagree.

SJ: I too am looking forward to seeing Rules of Engagement, I like Sam Jackson also. Like Thailog too, and agree with you about him being evil. I enjoyed Romeo Must Die as much as you did, I think, mostly due to the character development as well as the action. Thanks again for the recommendation. Thanks also for the Blink-182 info to you and Silverstar (sorry I thought they were female, Silverstar, your post confused me thanks to my low level of knowledge about the music industry), and for the WB lineup (some of its new shows I might want to watch, but most I think I'll be avoiding <sigh>).

Green Baron: I definitely agree with you about the evilness of Nero and Caligula. As for Dumbo, I currently don't want to censor that, I've always liked that movie. What in there do you think should be censored (and what caused you to think I did)? Please tell me, I'd like to know. The Japanese bit you were confused about was that bad Bugs Bunny episode someone else mentioned last week (SJ I think), something that I think should definitely be gotten rid of. If you'd seen the episode, you'd know why.

SOROW: Glad your hand is doing better. As for the scissors, OW! Hope that wounds heals soon too. Good luck with your ongoing trials, I'll be sending you prayers. :) And congrats to Joe on the pre-cal.

Stephen: Congrats on the new niece. Hope she grows up well. :) Happy Birthday in advance, hope I can think up something appropriate to send you in the next few days (don't worry, it'll make you smile, I don't want a friend to feel bad). As for the Phantom Menace, I can't say I completely agree with you that it was a good movie, but I do agree that we shouldn't just bash Lucas because of it. He's given us many better products, as well as many enjoyable ones, and I personally hope he continues (also that his writing improves with Ep 2 and he forgets about creating a market for it, instead just making the story, you can guess why).

Daniel: I'm glad you feel welcome here too. :) Like I said above, hope it continues. Also hope you keep giving good inspired comments like you have recently. :)

Welcome back Xenatrek! Welcome Elisagirl, Winterwolf, and everyone new!

Xanatos's Reforms: I agree with Todd and Taleweaver about how they're progressing, but I also agree with Mecord that he may not have given up his quest for immortality yet. One thing I wonder about- since Fox and Alex are both pretty immortal due to their fay heritage (Greg has said they'll both still be around in 2153) and Alex is so magically powerful, why doesn't Xanatos ask Alex to make him immortal? <grins as she considers the possibilities> Depending on what age Alex is when it happens, that could really provide growth opportunities for both of their characters and others' too. I know Doug will be dealing with the possibility in his ficverse, wonder if TGS will also. The story will probably be good if so. <grins>

**WARNING- SPOILERS AHEAD**

Buffy and Angel: Enjoyed both new episodes, even though the Buffy one was a bit confusing until its plot was revealed and the Angel ep had a few large plot holes. I liked the scripts in both, and the character development. Hope to see Johnathan again someday, he was still an interesting character even as a Mary Sue. The actress in Angel was also somewhat interesting, I regretted that we didn't get to see the effects of the whole episode on her at the end. But the development done on Wesley, Angel, and Cordelia was good by itself. :) Hope new Buffy episodes are not far off, and that next time they make Xander, Spike, Giles, and Anya more than just comic relief. As for magic in the Buffyverse, I agree with David G, it is too easily accessible but control of it is what Willow and other witches are after (I personally hope they keep doing a good job getting some :).

Timedancer Ep: Excellent job, Entity and all others who worked on this one. I too was confused about it at first, for a minute I thought it was going to be revealed that Sata's father was also a Timedancer. :) The development on Brooklyn in the story was excellent and very well-written, I look forward to more of it ahead. Nice development on Sata too and I enjoyed seeing the Kitsune spirits (can't help but wonder if they're still around in modern times and active in Japan). The pics were also excellent, as was the episode's plot. Especially liked the originality of this ep's story, along with the lack of editing errors. Only thing I have to complain about in there is the title, which I don't get since I don't know Japanese. Can someone please tell me what Giri means in English? Overall, I give this ep 10/10 stars, thumbs high. Keep up the good work, TGS Staff.

**SPOILERS END**

Niamhgold: I too am concerned about your frostbite, athritis, or whatever it is. Hope that it's not too much of a problem and keep us updated about it please. You're in my prayers. :)

That's about all for now, I think I'll go relax in the free time I have left. Talk to everyone again soon. Later!

**MORE RP NOW**

"You don't need to thank me," Sol tells the Ravens as they all thank him for getting them out of trouble with the police. "I was only helping those who fought with me for this city in common cause. LA may have many problems, but I have always liked it and enjoyed living here. I could not stand to see that Asil continuing to terrorize it." "I'm glad we were able to help you take handle her, then," Kit says. "Yeah, or vice versa," adds Jammer. Kit frowns slightly, then continues. "Unfortunately she escaped, so we need to get after her. Can you help the police straighten out whatever it is that happened here?" "Of course I can," nods Sol. "The documents I have should be authority enough. I'll see that the remaining members of her gang are locked up for a very long time." He smiles and hands the Ravens each a collection of documents. "By the way, these will make all of you official U.S. Government anti-terrorist agents. If you ever have trouble with the police again, just display them and everything will be alright." "Thanks," Doug grins, taking his documents and putting them away. "And thanks to you and all your friends for their help too. I hope we can join ranks again sometime." "As do I," Sol replies. "Until then." He waves and closes the window of his limo, then drives off with his associates following wordlessly after nodding goodbye to the Ravens. "Wait!" Tricia calls to Mewthree. "You promised to teach me that ultimate power psi-ray trick!" The strange psionic being turns back and hands her a small medallion of a crystal star. "Wear this often enough when using your power and it will amplify it," he says. "You will learn the power on your own once the level gets to the appropriate high." "Thanks," Tricia says, and Mewthree nods. "Just remember to concentrate on it before using your power and always keep it next to your skin. Otherwise it's no good." "I'll remember," Tricia tells him. "Farewell." Mewthree waves in reply and then turns to follow his comrades away. "Well, it was good helping those guys out," Doug says as the Ravens turn away and start walking back to the Onslaught. "Yeah," Kit nods. "Looks like Tricia got a nice gift out of it too. I just wish we'd gotten Asil." "Did you see how she escaped?" asks Shauna. "Or at least what way she was going?" "Like we can catch up to her now," Keith rolls his eyes. "I think I know where she's headed," Kit assures them. "I'll explain once we get to the truck." The Ravens all shrug and indicate that they'll be waiting eagerly. Nearby, continuing to watch them, Kate Lockley snaps several pictures of the group with her camera and resolves to ask a friend of hers about them later as the screen goes blank.

**END RP AND POST**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 02:49:54 PM
IP: pool-209-138-214-180.dlls.grid.net

I read Tale of 2 Gates and Giri <- yeah I know yah good for me big deal (rasberries myself)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 02:25:40 PM
IP: dt041nc5.san.rr.com

****TGS SPOILERS****

Giri: Great episode, definitely the best of the season so far. The plot was definitely unusual and was very well thought out. I really enjoyed the developement given to Brooklyn. The illustrations were excellent.

****END SPOILERS****

Stone Sleep Cycles> It has been established by Greg that stone sleep cycles are run by the Gargoyles' internal biological clock. At most latitudes it syncronizes itself to the rising and setting of the sun. However, in unusual places, such as the arctic, the sleep cycles would be somewhat confused for a few days, then fall into an approximately 12 hour pattern.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, April 6, 2000 02:14:52 PM
IP: dial-266.ocis.net

Giri was definitely one of the best TimeDancer episodes IMHO. Cheers to the TGS Staff! I have a ton of web scripts to write by tomorrow so I'll be brief today.

Wilek> I loved your answers to Rodlox's 4 questions. The mention of a TARDIS brought back Dr. Who memories I hadn't given a thought to in ages. I'm curious, for those that remember and liked Dr. Who, who was your favorite doctor? Mine was number 4 - Tom Baker. You can't beat the long scarf and would you like a jelly baby?

CrzyDemona> I think that gargoyle pic is awesome! I need help with my own gargoyle artwork but I'm working on it. Maybe you have some pointers?

Rodlox> At first glance it seems that gargoyles sleep cycles are based entirely on the sun. Looking at the episodes on the show you find out this isn't entirely accurate. In addition to the time with Broadway, there is the episode where the clones make their appearance. In the beginning of that episode the clan captures Demona and takes her to the labyrinth. The gargoyles guard Demona and Fang at night while the mutates cover the day shift. Angela decides to stay by Demona during the day turning to stone outside the cell. There is also the TimeDancer episode where Brooklyn is on a space station and can see the sun practically all the time. His body has to adjust to a regular sleep cycle. So I think the rising and setting of the sun is how gargoyles sleep cycles are oriented. It would be interesting to see if the clones sleep cycles are a little off from the rising and setting of the sun since they spend so much time underground. I imagine a solar eclipse could cause a gargoyle to wake up from stone sleep, but most gargoyles would only experience that once in their lifetime. How often do you see a solar eclipse? I can't imagine a lunar eclipse would do anything to a gargoyle. The sun definitely induces stone sleep. It also sets a gargoyles sleep cycle. If the gargoyle is not in the sunlight the sleep cycle will kick in. Goliath, Angela, and Elisa travelling in the skiff make a great example. Goliath and Angela were always in stone sleep during the day, even though they travelled to different time zones and probably had an odd sleeping cycle. Before Demona became human during the day, she never saw the sun. This is revealed at the end of the episode where Puck grants her the wish that she not be stone by day. Side note: The Surgeon General has determined that TimeDancing messes up your sleep cycle and makes you cranky. ^_^

Here's a thought for you. What would happen to a gargoyle dumped in Antarctica? Near enough to the South Pole there could be several months of night and several months of day. Stone sleep for months? Awake for months? Neither one sounds like much fun.

So much for being brief…

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 01:11:07 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

*Strolls in with latest conspiracy theory*

This is going to be on tough month. I always wonder if college teachers, or teachers in general plot together to make all the projects and tests due on about the same week or day in some cases.

***TD SPOILER AND PERSONAL OPINION***

Well I've got to say it you guy had me confused well up to halfway. Even then I didn't have the entire plot figured out. I was starting to get upset at first because it had this huge opening plot development, but no main character. Then it started to make sense that he was there all along, but not as himself. Wickedly cool, my friend. The drawings were well done and should be reconized although I woulnd not have minded seeing a picture of Sata as a hatchling, that would have been interesting. Certainly was the best done this season and you should be proud.
Five stars, definetly.

**END PERSONAL OPINION**
Warpmind-Wing Commander- It's too bad you haven't read any of the books. If you are a sci/fi and war history fan you would greatly enjoy them. What I like best about them is that the enemy is a species of overgrown, blood-thirsty felines. If there is any species I can see as being THAT evil it would have to be a cat. I have five of the little beast at home.

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
hell, tx
Thursday, April 6, 2000 12:21:37 PM
IP: spider-wg023.proxy.aol.com

Rodlox> Greg has stated that gargs sleeping period are not based on the sun, but on a internal biological clock. It merely matches up with the rising and setting of the sun. Thank about it, Braodway turns to stone underground in "The Silver Falcon" (which, I think) is the only example in the actual series). So, to answer you question, I think that gargoyles keep their normal sleeping cycle during any type of eclipse. Though I could be wrong.

Later all...
Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa, TX
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:28:52 AM
IP: 141.198.1.4

this probably sounds like a stupid question...but:

What happens to gargoyles during a -
1) solar eclipse?
2) lunar eclipse?

CREATIVITY DEMON:
Some gargoyles turn to stone during eclipses, and some gargs do not.
END CREATIVITY DEASOM.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 11:13:31 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Fire Storm - Yes, Los Angeles for G2001 is OFFICIAL. No going back now.

THE SPARK - 55% bitch. I was expecting much higher. But I take pride in the fact that I am bitchier than 91% of the other people scored.

The bitchiest group is fellow 29 year olds. I am at a bitter age, my friends. ;)

And contrary to popular belief. I prefer love over sex. :P Love Rating of 83%

... and apparently on the Sex test... they think I will have one new lover. Hmmm... decisions, decisions... (My husband is busting a gut right now) LOL.
CrzyDemona
Thursday, April 6, 2000 10:43:47 AM
IP: 209.150.94.75

TD SPOILERS!!
Just wanted to say that Giri was perhaps the most creative episode to date. Great job.
Mr. Thrugg
Thursday, April 6, 2000 09:27:08 AM
IP: pbd0078.urh.uiuc.edu

Skippy> About Buffy, notice that whenever someone who only dabbles in the occult tries to cast major spells, the result is always bad. Magic is a dangerous force, and varioius demonic entities are glad to help with the chaos it brings to the unwary. At least that's my theory.

A few examples: Xander's love spell. Amy (is that who I'm thinking about) turning herself into a rat. The frat party in the Halloween episode...

I think part of what a would be magician studies is CONTROL over the forces of magic. Just getting access to them is fairly easy. Most spells in Buffy call on deities, demons, or "The Powers That Be." All entities with their own agendas.

Another theory, of course, is that the writers just do whatever they think will make a good story without considering the broader implications. ;)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 09:01:48 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Hey! Not much time today!

Sevarius Jr> Thank you very much sir, ever so generous with intreaging info! :P I do hope that the x-men series is about Gen X, I usued to read those comics until the animation went down the tube and it was too painfull for me to read :P I am curious as to what happened, but i hope the dont spoil it in the cartoon series...

Oy, I gotta get! See ya guys! ^_~
Caliope
Thursday, April 6, 2000 08:24:04 AM
IP: 136.145.83.181

Spark Test results:

37% Bitch (below the national average of 38%) ;)
96% Love Rating with a morality rating of 10
70% Ass test *snickers*
Sex Test: will have one future sex partner and will love them. I'm a passionate kisser *looks over at Denis, wiggling eyebrows*
I will be a millionaire in 10 years. Ummm, yeah right. *chuckles*

Life is good - my cable company now offers Toon Disney and I was able to watch Gargoyles last night! *happy feet dance* It is shown nightly at 9pm (cst). Now I can hopefully know and understand what everyone is talking about :)

Latest on the school principal from hedes: My son had decided to do his Boy Scout Eagle project at our school and went thru all of the procedures and approvals to do this project - including approval from her. I took the dates for the project work to her on Monday..... she immediately tried to dismiss me and the project saying that other scouts have asked, she wasn't sure she still wanted him to do this, etc. I did some checking and no other scout pack had asked her to do any type of service project there. She wanted to see the blueprints again to "see if she still wanted it and/or if any changes were to be made". Yes, this evil and malicious human considered squelching an Eagle project - one that she had already approved (as per her signature) I immediately made some phone calls and had 2 other elementary schools lined up for my son to do his project in case she followed thru with her *threat*. I was not going to allow this to happen silently. Everybody and their dogs would know what she had done. She put his Eagle project notebook back in my box yesterday with a small note written on it telling Michael that he needed to transplant the shrubs within the next couple of weeks or it would become too warm to do it. (he's landscaping the area around the marquee) This woman has been jerking my chain. 33 more school days... 33 more school days... *chanting*
There's talk of creating a new position within the district's special ed. dept and I've already put my name in the hat in case it happens. It will be a cut in pay, but well worth it to get away from this beast. Keep your fingers crossed for me. She is truly mental. She's also an excellent example of what Evil is all about.

We've been notified that a family has just moved into our neighborhood - they have 20 adopted children... yes, 20! All of which are physically or mentally handicapped. My class size will definitely increase. O_o ohmy...*groans*

120 more days till G2K
116 more days till Denis and I are together! =))

Jannie
Thursday, April 6, 2000 08:15:50 AM
IP: 64-240-37-104.hou.port.mytelco.com

SEVARIUS JR. - Thanks for posting the WB Kids line-up. I felt rather disappointed by it, though; every one of its new "serious" series is either "super-hero" or "martial arts", neither of which genre really appeals to me. This is starting to confirm my suspicion all the more that we're not likely to see any sort of animated fantasy series from WB as a successor to "Gargoyles" any time soon. *sigh*

Actually (to whoever raised the point) the bartender didn't cast the spell upon his beer; his brother-in-law who was a warlock did it instead. I don't recall how Jonathan went about casting the "Mary Sue Spell" (as I like to call it, though); I think that it's likely that he had some sort of help there.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, April 6, 2000 06:50:19 AM
IP: 216.87.46.123.dialup-stl.primary.net

*** WARNING! RANT AHEAD! ***

SJ - Had to make comment here, because of that "Lucas Brainwashing" remark...

For starters, what is it with people like you that have to cut someone like George down!? Granted, he's no saint, and defenitely has a planetful of character flaws, but is that ANY reason for the constant bombast you keep spouting?

True, Episode I wasn't the mega-hit in most respects that a lot of Star Wars "purists" were expecting. And yes, I've heard all the yammer and yak-yak about "Oh I HATE Jar Jar!" and "What about all the plot holes in it!?"... plus the fact this one wasn't done nearly as well as the original was, story-wise...

But, damnit, don't go plastering the man as being EVIL, just because you don't like what he's done recently; both in his films and in his public interactions. Sure, a lot of people would love to see Darth Maul brought back, and Jar Jar ousted in Episode II... or that things be redone or fix just so. But you and all of the nay-sayers that are downing Lucas are forgetting just one small, but-ever-so-important detail:

It's his universe, his company, and he can do what he damn well wants with it.

Plus, you seem to be forgetting he has done some great work in the past that more that makes up for bad press. Despite all that's been said, Lucas is STILL a top notch director and producer, and the man is a great visuallist and storyteller. And, thanks to that and the inovations his company ILM and Pixar(well, that's now a separate company) have done, and won awards for, he's quite the man in the industry of filmmaking these days.

And, if you must mention the fact Episode I lost out in the recent oscars to "The Matrix" for what it was nominated for, well...despite that, Episode I is still a visually impressive film, and the FX were still the best in the business.

I'm not trying to start another flame war here (lord knows we don't need that muck in here again), nor am I trying to tell you to stop speaking your mind either. All I'm asking is that you please, PLEASE quit damning the horse that got the industry where it is. After all, with a lot of the inovations ILM came up with, Hollywood wouldn't have made some of those films that you like so much (cause I guarantee that a lot of the FX and filmimg engineering had it's start with ILM).

Also, I admire the man for what he's done before, and will continue to support Lucasarts and George, not because I'm "brainwashed"...but because I've followed what he's done over the past 3 decades, and I've loved everything that's been done so far... Even flops like "Howard the Duck". :)

*** RANT OVER ***

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, April 6, 2000 03:03:28 AM
IP: m165.ieway.com

Niamhgold> <>: Nah, why bother when you have this wonderful resource called the internet that already has both ROMs. Although I do hear you get a nice rendered FMV of the opera. A game with an opera in the middle: classy.
You are welcome for the info on the Coke clip.
Na zdorov'ya: This is going to haunt me. I knew I should have chosen an English tagline, like SRSJr. I'm don't mind really, just generally whining. Anyway, "na zdorov'ya" is a standard Ukranian (1/4 of my genetic makeup (statistically)) toast, meaning "best of health" (if I remember). It is one of a triumvirate of toasts, and the only one I know how to spell (in any character set).

Toku Kai> Once I was the King of Spain ... I was looking for fun and was to improve us.
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain ... and now I'm jamming with Moxy Früvous.

Well, it was just some Johnny Saucep'n when he walked into that kitchen and the chef picked up the odor and put down the solzinitzen...

Wilek> <<The names ... sprang from the quantum foam of my subconscious a few months ago>>: I must say that Damien S. Leeds is not truly my invention, I just derived the name. Daniel Johnson might know what I'm talking about.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Thursday, April 6, 2000 02:06:48 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

I just read the new TD ep. No spoilers, but it is EXCELLENT! Congrats to the staff, you've done a wonderful job! I admit I was totally confused until the end. Great job!
SOROW
Thursday, April 6, 2000 01:20:35 AM
IP: dll2a030-0965.splitrock.net

Well, I seem to have calmed down somewhat from the Supreme Clusterf!ck that was last week's CR. Oh, I'll never put up the blinders like some people in the CR have, or talk out of my ass giving all sorts of excuses for the guilty parties. But I'm a little calmer. Somewhat.

Cool Matrix News: The Warchowski Bros., those geeks that brought us everyone's favorite Trenchcoat-wearing, kung-fu fighting, flyin'-on-wires sci-fi epic the Matrix, are apparently in negotiations to get THE modern day master of martial arts, Jet Li, to sign on for the next two Matrix films, which will very soon be filming back to back. My mouth salivates at the thought of Jet Li kicking Agent ass. As the great thespian Keanu himself would say: "Whoa."

From the 100 monkeys working at 100 typewriters department: The goofballs over at Paramount are STILL trying to work up a premise for the next Trek show. First, rumors came about the show being a "Starfleet Academy" series. Then rumors of a show about Sulu and his ship. Then maybe a Borg series. The latest reported premise being passed around at Paramount is a series focusing on the "early days" of Trek--basically, they want to pull a George Lucas and go back and tell the history of the Starfleet (hopefully without mushmouthed amphibian aliens). Only there'd be a twist--in the form of some time-traveling villain who wants to eradicate Starfleet before it succeeds. Seeing as they've rejected just about every other premise, don't count on this one happening either. Unless they portray Jeri Ryan's breasts prominently.

Fire Storm: I appreciate your support, and you have several good points. I agree, the RP folks could be considered a clique. However, the only problem that the RP folks (or clique, if you wish) have is that they don't want the RP abolished. A separate room for RPs would fix that problem, but I suppose some people could interpret that as unnecessary or spreading the CR too thin. ;)

Hitler: Well, as Cincinatti Reds owner Marge Schott says: "Hitler wasn't bad at first. He just went a little too far." She quickly followed up that wonderful gem of a remark with the assertion: "He sure built good roads".

***BRIEF BUFFY AND ANGEL BITS***
Buffy: Good episode. A bit confusing at first, till I recognized Jonathan from earlier episodes. Not bad.

Angel: Pretty good episode. I'm sort of a fan of Tamara Gorski. She played Morrigan in Hercules, but I've never quite seen her so.....lovely, as she was in this episode of Angel. I thought Angel's conversion into Angelus chilling, and of course, the best part about his brief homicidal change was his dead-on impersonation of Cordelia's acting ability. ;)
****END B&A BITS****

Kids WB Lineup: Well, a few weeks ago I posted the Fall lineup for Fox kids. Well, now the WB has announced its fall Saturday lineup. It will go as follows:
Batman Beyond, 8 a.m.
Pokemon, 8:30
Jackie Chan Adventures 9:00
Max Steel 9:30
Pokemon GS 10:00
Static Shock! 10:30
Men in Black 11:00
X-Men: Evolution 11:30

Most of these we've already heard of, but there's a few unfamiliar faces.

Jackie Chan Adventures is an animated show about, who else, but Jackie Chan. He's some secret agent who, along with his young niece, fights this secret society for ancient Chinese magical talismans. Who cares about the plot--lots of bad English and Jackie Chan kung fu fighting! Now, if only they'd make that cartoon based on John Woo's "The Killer", I could die happy (cause American kids DESERVE to see an animated Chow Yun Fat dodge bullets in slo-mo).

Pokemon GS follows Ash as he and his friends go to mysterious lands where they discover 100 NEW Pokemon. Great, as if there wasn't enough reasons in the world to committ suicide, I suddenly get 100 more. The password is "merchandising", and those bastards over at Nintendo better enjoy their money, cause I'm sure their souls are going down to hell.

Static Schock! sounds very intriguing. It deals with a young, African-American superhero as he fights crime in a neighborhood that most superheros ignore--the ghetto. This interests me greatly, because if I'm not mistaken, this show is based upon the comic book Static. It was originally part of a line of comics published by DC Comics under the imprint "Milestone". All the comics in that line had African-American superheroes, and it is refreshing to see one of that lineup being given a break like this.

And finally, X-Men Evolution is about, of course, the X-Men. This show is no doubt set to coincide with the (they hope) success of the X-Men movie. I'd be real happy....except that they're advertising the X-Men as ADOLESCENTS. Unless they're planning on this show being a)The early, early, early days of the X-Men as told in the very first episodes of the comics or b) Generation X, then I'm going to be very, very upset.

Wilek: Episode one is your favorite? Oh, you poor boy. Don't let the Lucas brainwashing take hold! I too thought it was halfway decent when it came out. I since have changed my mind. Down with the oppressor!
Seriously, though.....how cute was Natalie Portman? Huh? I'd fight like mad dog for a girl like her! ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, April 6, 2000 12:34:25 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

<<<<Maybe they should read the rules of fanfic!>> Anyone can die at any moment?>>

odd, i thought that was the Joe Bob Brigg's First Rule Of Horror Movies. oh well.

Rodlox
Thursday, April 6, 2000 12:28:27 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***Kyryn steps into the room***

Gentlebeings, TGS now presents for your reading pleasure:

Giri

Written by Jonathan "Entity" Cotleur

Artwork by Noel Leas

**Kyryn steps aside to avoid the rush of CR dwellers**
Kyryn - [<<---clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Thursday, April 6, 2000 12:16:25 AM
IP: denm1-14.iglobal.net

**RP!**

[The Dark Mage's lab has now been cleared of everyone--and every*thing*--but him. He contacts one of his minions: "It's me. Have the mongrels been dispensed with?" "They're unconscious, and it looks like they'll stay that way for quite a while. We've hidden them so deep in the station's plumbing that even the Administrator herself couldn't find them with an assimilated bloodhound and a Ouija board." "Good. The lab is no longer secure. I can't think how those fleabags tracked me down. I've had everything beamed out and relocated aboard the Dark Star II. Daleks aren't the most perceptive of creatures; I think my latest experiment can be carried out in relative safety among them. What is the status of Project Heresiarch?" "Well ahead of schedule; it should be complete by the time the Ravens and their allies have neutralized Thailog." "Perfect. Exactly when we'll need it..." With that, the Dark Mage vanishes from the station.]

**PAUSE RP!**

I saw The Phantom Menace today. It's now my favorite of the Star Wars movies. 8) Granted, Jar Jar made me wanna kill him at first, but after experiencing the soul-searing, mind-shattering horror of Boss Nass, Jar Jar is *nothing*...

Fire Storm> <<Mafia threats against me and my family>> Eh? I thought I ordered them to lay off that. A moment please. [Wilek makes a brief call on a cell phone, and several large explosions are heard, and felt.] That's done with, then. <<It seems to me that ReBoot and Beast Wars had better movements than Starship Troopers>> Hm...I've only seen one entire episode, the one with the robot, and its movement was extremely kewl. (Oddly enough, I didn't pay much attention to the humans...) <> Strange...maybe it's just the CD-ROM drives I've had. The first time I had these problems was with a copy of Myst. It had what looked like a minor scorch mark about the size of a small coin on it; my PC wouldn't even access the disk. Had to exchange it for another copy, which fortunately worked fine. The flaw in FF7 is a much lighter blemish that covers about 2/3 of the outer rim. It would crash my PC every time it tried to access battle data. It cleared up when I installed everything except the FMVs to my hard drive from the install disc; for some reason, the thing didn't interfere with FMV access. O_o

Winterwolf> <> Me as well, actually; I almost bought a Decepticon shirt at Gadzooks, but I decided on a Thundercats one instead. :P <> <blink> Is it me, or has everyone else who's taken this test have exactly a 71% chance of dying in a most embarassing manner? This is getting weird.

Gside> <> Interesting. The names Kyle Alefgard and Marius de Nant sprang from the quantum foam of my subconscious a few months ago; I'll never be able to use the characters they came with, so y'all are welcome to the names. :)

Niamhgold> <<Maybe they should read the rules of fanfic!>> Anyone can die at any moment? >8)

Silverstar> <<Whenever I tell people about my great-grandfather killing a guy they say COOL too.>> <blink> Wow. And I thought there weren't very many people that twisted. ;P

Archwolf> <<You wanna talk stringy, try Kender.>> Any relation to the Keeblers? I once had a freehold full of those. You've never heard such whining. :P

**RESUME RP!**

[Waiting in his car outside the Nielsen building, Solomon Brand sees a large amount of police cars gathering around the building, and on the front lawn, sees that the Ravens and others are who they're here to arrest. "Blast; I thought I had those idiots under control." Less than a second later, he's standing between the police and the Ravens, facing the former. "Gentlemen," he announces jovially while wearing his most ingratiating grin, "good evening. Is there...anything I can help you with? Surely...you don't believe my employees and associates here are responsible for some...wrongdoing?" Doug and Kitainia exchange a very confused glance. Doug: "What do you think he's up to?" Mewthree interjects, "No idea, but it'll most likely be *grand* fun to watch..."] Hope my RPs didn't disrupt anyone's plans. :) (Hopefully I've made them easy enough to work around...)

**END RP!**
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, April 6, 2000 12:04:23 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

After tomorrow night, I'll be done with at least one tryout. Too much stress for me!

XenaTrek> Looking for a record label, ask Joe. He has, or will have, one.
SOROW
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 11:21:51 PM
IP: dll2a010-0328.splitrock.net

Fire Storm > though in retrospect, it's probably better for my health that they _didn't_ use the Bald Mtn. segment ... Chernabog unfurling his wings for the first time in closeup on the IMAX screen probably would have melted all the synapses in my brain and they would have had to cart me out as a babbling imbecile ...

Update > after a hiatus, I have started work on a new 'fic. Set just after The Guardians: Alchemist, while Old-Mother is still visiting the future. Should have it done in a few weeks.

Green Baron > you said something about my purity score? Big difference between thought and deed, leastways as far as I reckon things! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 10:30:39 PM
IP: 06-102.009.popsite.net

Silverstar> Things like Xander setting the book on fire don't bother me. It's a magical tome and you quote incatations around it something might happen. It's when people who should not have magical abilites that turn up casting major spells (like Johnathan and the Mr. Perfect Spell, or the barkeep with the de-evolving brewskies) it's when the problem shows up. This is obviously powerful magic and it doesn't make sense that someone who has not spent a long time studying magic like Willow or Tara shouldbe able to come along and pop out this stuff without strange side effects.
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:55:10 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-32.ultravision.net

I was trying to discribe Gargoyles to this guy on the plane to Seattle... so I ended up drawing this to show him what I was talking about.

A pic of Orin on a rooftop... now just to decide how to color it. :) Hope you like!
CrzyDemona - [<--- New drawing!]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:42:12 PM
IP: 209.150.94.65

Archwolf: <<dire wolf>> you mean the giant canines of the most recent major Ice Age? {five or so feet at the shoulder}.

. <<stringy>>....don't think i've had Kender {unless my one-time cook mis-labeled the food...{hence 'one time'}}. you want _really_ stringy, though, try Mirrorkin....{they don't like being called Dopplegangrs}.

Rodlox
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:23:22 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*Storms in and looks around. Seeing DC< his face assumes one of those false smiles that hids cruel intent. Putting an arm around DC's shoulder, Archwolf escorts the pest out side. There are several seconds of screams of pain, then silence. Moments later, Arcwolf enters the room again* *BUUUUURRRRRRRRRPPPP* Sorry. On to replies.

Mecord and Winterwolf> It WAS self defense!! I was minding my own business, and this elf charged me with a silver weapon. *Warfrost rolls his eyes and growls something* So I was 4 feet taller than it was. _He's_ the one who attacked me!! *Again, Warfrost growls after a bark of what sounds like incredulous laughter* Well, it was a poor practical joke. How the hell was I supposed to know that it was a _Colapsable_ silver dagger? And just to rehash, elves taste like rabit. But I don't eat my friends...especialy when they are friends with big dragons.

Rodlox>It was a Kagonesti elf. You wanna talk stringy, try Kender. Yech!

WinterWolf again><<So does being Archwolf make you leader of the pack?>> In here, no. I'm one among equals. Out there *pointing to the door to RL* I lead a fair sized pack. Although I am willing to accept more followers, so feel free to call me your Alpha. ;) Oh, yeah War Frost there *points to the smoke-colored wolf that stands 5'6" at the shoulder* is a dire wolf, and is my bond-wolf.

Tests:
67%Love 33%lust
Will make a million by age 39, mostly through Ultra-nerdism
I will have two more lovers, and have the misfortune to love both of them.
74% un-telligent...and I will get away with just about everything.
70%pure

**RP AHOY!!****
After a few minutes of examing a computer generated map, Archwolf and War frost set off into one of the darker, low population areas of the station. Both could tell by the weakening of the Gauntlet that they had to be getting close. "Look, War Frost. You go through the front door. you'll set off what ever alarms he has, he will focus on you and I'll pop in from the Umbra and take him by surprise." War Frost agreed and they set off.
Inside the DarkMage's lab, two figures were busy about their work. The DarkMage stopped suddenly and told his apprentice to guard the door. The elf didn't have to be told twice. When the joint attack from WarFrost and Archwolf came, they found that they had been expected, and were very quickly subdued. The DarkMage's eyes glittered in malevolent joy when he realized who his captive were. Ah. The real things. So much better to work with!"
Archwolf was ready to fire off a biting remark, but a growl from warfrost cut him off. "What? You recognize her?" He saw the figure his dire wolf companion was growling at. She was an elf. [She was with Mecord]. Archwolf snorted. "Told you so. Can't trust anyone." The DarkMage smiled evil. "Corect. You cannot." He said something, and bot wolven creatures lost consciousness.

**End RP***

Gotta run
Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:06:00 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

re: alternate Hitlers....

try: http://www.ahtg.net/alterframe.html then click on Europes, then on 'Springtime For Hitler'..it's a 3-parter.

it's fairly interesting.

{i still don't approve of either hitler, but that's me}.

Rodlox
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:55:31 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Sorry I have not been around for a while. I thought it would be best if I kept my head low during the flame war. Plus I’ve been real busy.

I am 26% Bastard, 14% of that is tard.

I am 78% pure. 1% (same as me)

As for love/lust I received 64% love, 36% lust.
Morality (7)
Love Experience (3)
Sex Experience (2)
Intelligence (7)
Wheel of desperation has 5 wedges of discontent. One wedge represents a longing for love and
fulfillment. Six wedges comprise one whole melon of need.

I will make a million at 38.

I am going to die Feb. 22, 2051 at the age of 70
Cancer (41%)
Third Degree Burns (10%)
Alien Abduction (9%)
Horrible Accident (8%)
Heart Attack (7%)
Homicide (5%)

I will loose my virginity at the age of 19 in a hotel room.The info on my 2 future sex partner(s):
2 of them will be female
And I will actually love 1 of them!
I have a 71% chance of dying during sex.

You have a knack for greatness. For the record,you are:

My “Un-telligence” test report:
87% Un-telligent!
which is significantly higher than the current average of 60%

Here is the custom report of your personality that led our team of geeks to conclude (with
confidence) that you are resourceful, sly, and guaranteed to get away with everything:

"The subject shows a very high level of intelligence, and his sense of observation is one of his best
qualities. Considering this, he shows a lot of potential, but that's only part of the equation.

"In addition, the subject exhibits brave tendencies, and that does a lotfor his score.

"Finally, the subject displayed a healthy (better than most net freaks anyway) sense of humor, a fair
and productive sense of morality, and a barbaric self-confidence. The balance of these three traits is
important; high levels of confidence, medium levels of morality, and a good level of humor make for
the strongest individuals."

Final Score: 87% Un-telligent

Tim P.
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:43:28 PM
IP: bn821-01.wsc.edu

Re: Hitler...

"I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied to art school."

-- George Carlin
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:39:28 PM
IP: 98c9ca37.ipt.aol.com

Hi all!

I just got the new Smashing Pumpkins CD. I love their music!

Anyway, on with the replies.

Wilek> Ya' know what? Whenever I tell people about my great-grandfather killing a guy they say COOL too. Strange. Well I think it is. Although, it is kind of cool. How many people can say that their great-grandfather killed someone?

FireStorm> <If you wanted the less dangerous job, go for the class 4 biohazard lab> Really? I told my mom that I wanted to work in one and she said if I ever do she'd kill me before the viruses do. Of course she was kidding. (I think) :)

WinterWolf> Your welcome. Saying hello was the least I could do : )

***BUFFY SPOILERS***

I thought that it was kind of flaky (for lack of a better word) and they really were over dramatic. It reminded me of a day time soap opera. It did, however, have good development on Buffy and Riley's relationship. I agree with whoever said that magic in Buffyverse was too easy to get a hold of. I mean, Willow is a witch and she studies magic and still can't get some spells right. Then Zander says a bit of Latin and the book catches on fire. Um, it does seem a bit weird. But that is what the show is all about.

***END SPOILERS***

*BYE*
silverstar
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:36:20 PM
IP: l2p25.dav.mother.com

Niamhgold: <<sunspots>>....as in The Incredable Hulk? ::)

Kyryn: <<give credit>> i always do....how profuse and long would you like the "and here i give thanks to..." list? half- :)

Archwolf et ali....<<taste of elves>>...really? what kind did he have? last few elves i had {long time ago, i think} were _very_ stringy!!

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:28:27 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Shogun Raptor> You know, Moxie plays out here sometimes ... one of my friends who gave me their CD a few weeks ago saw them up at the Sommerville theater ... they don't generally take the big stages, but Boston has a lot of fun underground spots where they pick up on them.

Full post later on ...
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:10:47 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Once I was the King of Spain ... now I eat Humble Pie
Once I was the King of Spain ... now I vaccuum the turf at SkyDome.

^_^
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:55:19 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

GLORIOUS NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS BEEN OFFICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT LEONARDO DECAPRIO WILL MOST CERTAINLY NOT BE PLAYING THE ROLE OF ANAKIN IN STAR WARS EPISODE TWO!!!! THE UNIVERSE IS RIGHT ONCE AGAIN!!!!

Now,if only J*r J*r dies in this one. It will make up for the Phantom Menace...

Buffy/Angel Spoilers & Nitpicks

Johnathan's return was an interseting idea. Only thing is I have this problem with how easy and accesible magic is in the Buffyverse. I mean, that barkeep uses a spell to turn those drinkers into neanderthals, now the loser gets a hold of a spell that makes him super-human. It seems like it's to let loose a plague of demons thanit is to buy a gun in Sunnyvale. I've got no problem with major league sorcerors showing up (like Giles' old school chum turned chaos worshipper) or someone accidentally letting loose ancient untold evils (like the Halloween episode with the mini-demon) but the idea of undisciplined, untrained people suddenly thowing out some major powers here doesn't seem right. Why should Willow be struggling with minor spells here and these walk on characters knowing absolutely nothing of majic start throwing out stuff more powerful than her abilites? It just doesn't make sense...

Angel wasn't bad,but I do have one little nitpick about that episode. When the stalker was in the actresses house,and Angel storms in through the glass door. How could he do that? He'd never been there before and she had not invited him in, he should havebeen trapped at the threshold. An obvious inconsitency seeing how they used the invitation thing to have him standing idly by while he watches Kate's father get killed....
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:52:07 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-37.ultravision.net

**Mecord drops throught the panel in the celing**

Ever start studying for a test and then suddenly realize that you just don't care enough about the test to commit all your free time to study, and when you take the test some benevolent god that didn't like to study either takes pity on you and makes the test easy? Wow, I must be in a good mood, I don't even care about how horrible a run-on sentance that is. Anyway...

Warpmind had the correct answers (I think he knew it already). I too liked Wilek's answers.

WinterWolf>> <When you said don't eat the elf, are you saying elves are tasty?> Oh boy, here we go again. I haven't ever been eaten, so I don't really know if I'll dislike it. If I'm dead at the time I probably wouldn't mind too much. :) I was making reference to when Archwolf first arrived. He mentioned that he had eaten an elf once (in self-defence, or so he says). According to him we don't tast too bad, but I wouldn't know. ;)

That's all for now. Time for a nap.

Mecord
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:46:49 PM
IP: usr56.mtwest.net

I'm firmly against doing Timedancer in CGI because of costs. Each episode would involve a different background and different characters, which would be very expensive. The cost per episode would cut the total number of episodes down. :(

On the other hand, if the costs are low enough to do 26 episodes per season of Gargoyles in CGI with a decent amount of background characters, I'm in favor. Otherwise, I'm dead set against it because it really limits a series too much. In gargoyles/pendragon/dark ages, most of the characters stay around so the first year would be the most expensive year in CGI for those.

**interview with Mr DC**
"Thanks for agreeing to the interview. Is it already if I call DC instead of Disconnect."

"No problem."

"DC, why is that no one seems to be able to kill you?"

"Three reasons. One, I'm of the third race. Two, I keep making human clones of myself. . ."

"How do I know you're the real DC and not some clone?"

"I was about to get to that. Mr C [Connect (another member of the third race)]and I are bound by a magical spell that keeps both of us alive unless one of us kills the other."

"Is this spell similiar to the one placed on Demona and Macbeth?"

"Yes. If both of us are within proximiately to one another and one of us feels pain, the other does too."

"Hmm. How does one avoid you?"

"Simple, bribery. If the internet service provider bribes me with enough money, I don't mess with their customers. Yeoooowwwwww. . ."

"Yep, you're the real DC. I happen to have Mr C within proximiately to you and have him tied to an electric current."

DC quickly leaves the area.

**End interview with DC**

*decides to return candles and light bulbs that were taken yesterday before anyone calls the COPS. Looks around for solar-powered light bulbs and can't find them.

Daniel Paul Hightower
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:42:27 PM
IP: max1-10.cwy.cei.net

**Kyryn sneaks in from work**

Rodlox and Coyote> Thanks for the explanation of AU and AH. I know what they are. I just wasn't familiar with the acronyms.

Rodlox> TGS has always been a group project and the characters who are not canon from the original series belong to TGS, not to any one person. *shrug* I don't see a problem with you writing such a story. Just make sure that you give proper credit for any characters that are not your own.

FS>I think that one of the original intents of the text site was also so that we would have a secondary site if the main server went down (as it has done in the past). I don't see a problem in setting up a text version of stories on the main site.

Oh, regarding the robot acronym name generator> I have a friend whose nickname for many years has been S.I.K.O -- Synthetic Intelligent Killing Organism(no kidding).

Later All!

**Kyryn heads out to battle the evil I-35 trafffic on her way home to Denton****
Kyryn
Lewisville, Tx
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:39:54 PM
IP: 216.35.46.135

** Niamhgold looks at the stock ticker **

The market's having a wild ride, considering it's not a full moon. Must be the sunspots :)

Doug: Thank you for caring about my frostbite problem. Turns out I have *really* bad circulation in my hands and feet, and they think it might be a prelude to arthritis/tendinitis :( Ah, but if they diagnose it early, the better for me!

Wilek: Hmm...yes, the temple scene was one of FFVII's most heart-wrenching moments. That's where I think FFVIII didn't do so well...they weren't really willing to kill anyone off, except the villain. Maybe they should read the rules of fanfic! I was going to try and get the anthology, but I'll need to wait until Easter. Then lent will be over, I can again have my coffee, and I can take on the FF obsession! ;}

Gside: Thanks for the link to the FF Coca-Cola commercial! My friend enjoyed it immensely :) By the way...I remember you telling the room before, but I've forgotten--what does Na zdorov'ya mean?

Firestorm: Well, considering I didn't know this before...well wishes to you and Lady Mystic! I think it's wonderful you're not rushing into things. Savoring the moment, if you will :)

Watch out for those sunspots, all!

Adios :)

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:36:44 PM
IP: ncia87n.ncia.net

Dark Pine Green (no time to change)

Dang, the posting procedure automatically cuts of excess spaces. The intro to the mp3 should have read like this:
I'd like to tell you about........... things.... that.... would.... blow.... your.... mind.... Scotty....... Starships run with engines the size of a walnut.... Walnuts........ run with engines the size of starships....... A man barely alive. We can rebuild him. We can make him better, bigger, stronger, faster, the
KING OF SPAIN.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:20:09 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Dark Pine Green (blends in with my surroundings if I was in a relatively firry area)

Wilek> <<Final Fantasy Anthology that has somewhat upgraded versions of I think 5 and 6>>: I have heard that the fan translation of 5 is somewhat better than the "official" translation. It's fun taking the job system and classifying the characters from other games (Setzer is a samuri? Cid VII is a Dragoon?) You can get the ROM for 5 from under oneminuteleft.com (it likes IE) and the patch can be acquired easily from under zophar.net or darkmazda.com

Mecord> plaid: You didn't really need to look it up. It's actually a commercial so they probably couldn't use a real tartan.

Warpmind> Creativity Demon> I think I could have some fun if that happened.
Jacques Lapin: Yes jackrabbit (sid in analogy with "grasshopper"), but I still think Harvey is a good name. Or, How about Damien Scott Leeds, a 7 foot being with a serpent's tail, horns, a horse's head, red eyes, bat wings, and thick black fur native to New Jersey?

Fire Storm> 3/29 mp3: Yeah I did. It was Life is a Carnival by The Band. In my (odd) opinion, a good song. If you want me to, I can send it by AIM or ICQ. Or, if you ask (nicely isn't even required), I can put it in my directory (and go over the quota).
Carnival of Venice: Thank you for your kind words.
mp3.com CD: I have 2 CDs from there, and I like about a fifth of what they have (usually the classical stuff).
colors: Not truly a problem, I shall just continue approximating.
<>: Then get crack(ling) with the microwave, then.

Since I have been reminded, it is time to change the mp3. Let us travel acrossthe continent, from Venice to Spain.
I'd like to tell you about things that would blow your mind Scotty. Starships run with engines the size of a walnut. Walnuts run with engines the size of starships. A man barely alive. We can reuild him. We can make him better, bigger, stronger, faster, the KING OF SPAIN.
The new mp3 is King of Spain by Moxy Früvous, with the intro as a bonus.

WinterWolf> <<When you said don't eat the elf, are you saying elves are tasty>>: Mecord is the elf, and I don't think anyone really enjoys being eaten.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:15:02 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Daniel Johnson> Hmmmm, I must explore this further. (Concentrates very hard for a moment) Feeling any uncontrolable urges to give me money, by any chance? ;)

FS> The old series, thanks be. The idea of a *new* Hammerman series is absolutely terrifying.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 05:44:16 PM
IP: ppp-249.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Hi everybody!

I wanted to thank everyone who welcomed me to the CR.
Thanks Aaron, Stormy, Archwolf, Mecord, Daniel Johnson, Silverstar, Wilek, and Coyote the Bando
Apologies if I missed anyone.
Special hellos to Daniel Johnson and Elisagirl who are new members too

Archwolf> I definitely need to reread through the episode archive after Brooklyn returns. It just seemed, in my opinion, that maybe it was dropped a little too easily.
So does being Archwolf make you leader of the pack? ;)

Mecord> I have an addition to my last post. I don't mean to rehash what has already been said, but I want to clarify what I was thinking. Xanatos hasn't given up on immortality. After all he kept the letter. Before he'd use it he has to make it work for his family too.
When you said don't eat the elf, are you saying elves are tasty? ;)

Wilek> I thought the Decepticon symbol looked cooler. It wasn't as boxy as the Autobot symbol, although I have to admit I like both colors. (red and purple)

www.TheSpark.com> I tried out some of the tests.

I am 34% Bastard 19% of that is tard.
I am 76% pure.
As for love/lust I received 75% love 25% lust.
This year I'm supposed to meet my one true love in a hotel.
Another soul searching at the Gathering I guess.
I have a 71% chance of dying during sex. Man that is some sex!
I will make a million at 41. That comes mostly from criminal mischief. Join my criminal cartel now!
I am going to die Feb 4, 2051.
I have even odds on heart attack, cancer, alcoholism, third degree burns, or car accident.
My un-telligence is 54%.
The report at the end is funny.

The subject shows an astounding level of intelligence, and his sense of observation is one of his best qualities. Considering this, he shows a lot of potential, but that's only part of the equation.

Also, as much as we hate violence, an occasional mauling is one way to solve day-to-day problems like unpleasant coworkers or pesky door-to-door salesmen; he just isn't tough enough, sir, and he avoids any solution that involves violence.

I guess this means I'm a not an alpha male or maybe just a nice friendly wolf?

WinterWolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, New York, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 04:02:56 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

Buffy/Angel Spoilers

"SuperStar" nice to see Jonathon again. The episode was a bit corny and over the top, but i think that was the point.
We got to see more xander and Anya see some action...but that outfit Anya was wearing?!?!((Burn it!)) and was I the only one that thinks that Spike was jonzing for Buffy?

"Eternity" KEWL! some at the official site explains the slipp of angelus beter. everyday Angel has a struggle with his bad side when he was drugged his demon had the advantage. Loved the end with Cordy and Wesley, nice action and development.

Founders day tommorow, so I have a free :)
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, FL, U.S.A
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 03:58:03 PM
IP: user-37kapdm.dialup.mindspring.com

Coyote:> Re: ...they mentioned they're renovating the [Spartan] stadium. AGAIN. >> Again? Grrrr... if they keep renovating it like they do with the UofM's stadium, pretty soon there won't be much of a seat left for us fans to sit on. Nick told me that the seats at the Wolverine Stadium are now just barely a foot! I might give you a quick buzz tonite (Wed).

Firestorm: >> Welcome back. I miss ya! << Re: Computer problems >> Didn't lose anything, just the time it took to get the virus out. Now that its out, I just can't use my floopy drive, and I don't think I will be getting replacement for it, since I may end up getting a 'super' computer from my friend pretty soon. << Re: Character/Computer Animations >> Good question. Even though Japanese animation is a tad more superior than us North Americans, there are some NA companies that are 'ahead' than others. And there are companies that specialize in certain areas than others. For example, Mainframe is really into character animation, so they try every attempt to make their characters move flawlessly. Where as, Digital Domain and Tippet focus on special/visual effects. Also animations will depend on the style (s) the animator decides to take to put an animation together, which is probably what you are seeing when you mentioned that some recent animations are 'stiffer' than in recent years. And lastly, "Starship Troopers" is a done by works from about 14 different animation/vfx studios, ie Tippet, DD, Dreamworks, etc., So it would be kinda hard to compare the film with individualize productions of other companies.

GB: >> Where are ya? *kisses* Email me the times to give you a buzz.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, MI, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 03:52:08 PM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Color = Indigo

Sorry I haven't been able to answer anyones post. I have been busy.
Ya know...
Work, Mafia threats against me and my family, new game, family stuff.

Katara_O: <try what??>
I just didn't want people to post just to see what a color looked like.
<...The location of the Gathering 2001 will be Los Angeles, California.">
Is that official?

Warpmind: <There are a few boost drinks available, mostly guaran-based stuff that tastes like <Censored>, but nothing strong.>
Do you have colleges? If so, how do the college students survive there? :)
<Windows CDs are not too expensive>
For me, at least. From being a computer vendor to selling computers at Depot, I have roughly 18 Win-95 standard, upgrade and companion disks.
<No, wait, they didn't *have* a homeworld... hmmm...>
Do we know that for certian?
<monkeys fly out of various peoples' posterior areas>
Excellent <Head nod>

Eric Idle: Wow... 57? Lets hope for some more good movies!

Aaron: <Also saw the pilot of the Hammerman animated series>
The old one, or have them made a new one?

jewel faulkne: Another one?
Jewel, you will be missed.

Silverstar: <What is it with everyone leaving?>
Maybe the people who are leaving are right. Maybe this just isn't a fun place to post any more.
<Could someone get the real player version up? I *really* want to listen to them. I have tried to get them down loaded on a different program, but was unsuccessfull. Please try!>
Unfortanately, the person in charge of the audio isn't around too much. (I think, anyway. To my knowledge it was IRC Goliath.)
I suppose someone COULD convert the MP3's to Real Media format...

Coyote/Xenatrek: <She still has the tape, and I have a copy as well.>
Hmm... want me to post it?

Coyote: <MICHIGAN STATE 2000 NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!>
An yes, there were NO riots this year!

SJ: 
Absolutely. We have lost about 6 members in the past 6 months simply because of how this room is.

Favortism. She is simply liked more than Pistoff was/is. (Hey, it IS the truth)
<There is something very, very wrong here in the CRs. I don't think this is me exagerrating here, and I don't think it can be denied>
Definately.
<seeing as TWO people who used to be quite a big part of the CRs are now leaving them indefinitely>
NOT just two. A few others also. Remember back? I think Aris left this CR permantly, and a few others.
<X-Men MovieS)
So... what will they do when the first movie ends up making less than $50 mil domestic?
<but I did not think it would fall on receptive ears.>
Everyone may not listen, but you would at least get a few people listening.
And yes, I am one of them.
<cliques>
I think you would agree that the RPers are one of the cliques you were talking about. Now, I don't know about you, but I think that clique would be near impossable to destroy. And if it was destroyed I think we would loose quite a few posters in here. Catch 22, eh?

Gside: <colors: I know I've done Green and Dark Cyan, and I'm pretty sure I've labeled them.>
Yeah, you always label them. Thanks!
Did you post a Wendsday (March 29) MP3?
<carnival>
Actually, it wasn't too bad.
OH! Have you ordered that MP3 CD from MP3.com? If you get it through visitalk.com they will pay for shipping and give you a Labtec headset microphone. Given, I already have a box of those headsets, but for a free CD it was worth it!
<Is there any way we can get tan in here?>
Heck, I can't even get a copy of the CR color listing, let alone change it!

Microwaving CDs: I have a stack of, oh... 200 or so that are just SCREAMING for some artfull project to be done to them.

Jaden: <ID4-2>
"Say, Mr. President: You and your team just saved the world from alien invaders. What are you going to do now?"
"I am going to Disney World!" :)

Starsinger: <touched down in the parking lot of Coronado Mall and clipped a church across the street from the mall.>
Yeow! THAT could have been REAL ugly!

Rodlox: I have no idea how modern Russians would pronounce that word, let alone Russians from 1100 years ago.
BUT, I would guess see-von-o-slov (Silent T)
I'll check my Learn Russian program when I get home.

Jenna: I think you also summed up what is wrong with the fandom really well.

Xenatrek: I am SO sorry to hear about the computer problems. I know how computer problems like that can be. I hope you were able to recover your data.
<Character Animations>
But why is it that some companies seem to have better "looking" graphics, but their animations seem WAY more stiff than the animation a few years ago?
Example: It seems to me that ReBoot and Beast Wars had better movements than Starship Troopers (I know this is like comparing Mainframe to Sony Animation :)
<Are you still posting? Just curious, I haven't seen you post recently.>
I try to. Just been busy.

Happy (Belated) birthday Christine!

Green Baron: Lets not forget Lady Mystic (She just has alot of RL stuff) And PFay

Hell, if I heard she was down there, I *MIGHT* just risk driving the Tempo down there!
<Derek was in the Panthers>
Black Panthers?

Shadowrider: <'cause I was the one who started this thing with my uncautious comments a few weeks ago>
Don't worry. Little flame wars happen in this CR every 3 months or so.
<being hit by a lightning is even less>
ESPICIALLY if you arn't expecting it! I haven't REALLY been hit by lightning, but I have been zapped so many times I was nicknamed "Sparky"! :)

Christine: Sorry to hear about your mom. LM's mother was diagnosed with the same thing. She is no longer with us :(
The good news is that survival rates are a lot better than they were just 5 years ago.
<we would have all preferred that they'd kept the Bald Mtn. segment>
Could you just IMAGINE seeing that segment on an IMAX screen? <Drools> :)

Oh yeah... my grandmother said that her doctors found a fiberous little lump in her breast. :(
Hopefully it is nothing. If it is, I hope it is operable.

Greg: 
Hmm... good move! :)
<But we need to be more civil to each other while doing it.>
Yes. I just hope everyone remembers that next time.

Kyryn: <There are backups of the text files available when we get to that point.>
Um... there IS a way to host it on your current server. I have seen how the directory structure of that server is and it is VERY easy to add a simple text only directory.

Daniel Johnson: Welcome!

Niamhgold: 
Lady Mystic and myself have known each other for 4 years (we are engaged) and we don't plan on getting married for at least 3 more years.

Silverstar: <So I stepped down to a less dangerous job, being a detective>
If you wanted the less dangerous job, go for the class 4 biohazard lab.

Rodlox: <hey, nobody told mine that they _had_ to be running>
Hey, mine claw and basicaily try to kill. :)

David G: <Adolf Hitler wanted power. Nuff said>
Speaking of which... I was listening to the radio this morning when I heard the start of a radio discussion on wether the holocost <SP!> would have happened if Hitler never existed. Wasn't able to catch too much, though.
I did like your comments on the evils of Oberon. When put like that, I can see how he could be considered evil.

Mecord: Hey, you can always tell us. Few in here would call you crazy(ier) than usual.

Wilek: 
Odd... I never had those problems with discolorations. I occasionally have very large blotches on some disks, and they work fine.

Stormy: If your car ever starts talking to you... RUN. :)

Scott, The Diet Coke of Evil: What are your ideas for how to improve the "structure" of the fandom?

Toku Kaioto: <In Europe)
Theres a gathering in Europe every year?
<the "We-hate-cliques"-clique>
Good point. In fact, your entire fandom comment beings up some good points.

Skippy: <It's god awful and we have only a few weekends to work on it to get it somewhat liveable. Yikes!>
Ick? All I can say is GFL.
<As long as Ican flashback to that memory,I doubt I shall ever need to take a cold shower ever again.... >
Imagine if you will... a day when that scene causes the opposite of a cold shower... I can hear the screams now! :)

Niamhgold: 
Thats funny... for some reason I am reminded of G98 :)

Todd Jensen: <I have the theory, though of course I wouldn't directly use it in any TGS stories because of S&P, that even when he did sleep with her, he imagined that he was doing it with Titania, although I seriously doubt that he told her that). >
I would have to say definately. Would have definately been an interesting addition to that story! :)

Silverstar: <It was a huge, fat, ugly rat!>
Yuck! Sounds like the one in my family's garage that enjoied eating rat poison. Thing went through 4-6 boxes of the stuff.
Actually, I may even be HAPPY to see a rat in my neighborhood. It would mean that SOMETHING is alive around here. My neighbor has (or had) cats for a long time. Now, nothing.
I was VERY surprised to see a squirel the other day, though.

Delphi: <"He can't wear regular glasses because he only has one eye and one ear.">
A smart dumb blonde?

TOP OF THE CR! (Until someone else posts)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 02:48:23 PM
IP: t3-62.visitus.net

**enters carrying a portable TV** Geez ... y'know, if it was Michigan that won the title, they wouldn't interrupt the victory celebrations for friggin' soap operas. They did an hour worth, then they seem to be skippin' the parade altogether ... maybe they'll pick it back up when the rally gets to Spartan Stadium (incidentally, XenaTrek ... they mentioned they're renovating the stadium. AGAIN.).

XenaTrek: Oh good, you only saw that last few minutes ... that means ya missed the really painful scene at the beginning of the 2nd half when Mateen sprained his ankle ... whoo boy, that looked painful!

All newcomers: Bienvenidos a la casa de los locos! :)
(roughly translated: welcome to the loony bin)

Aaron: Got my registration today. And I would dance, too, but I'd probably drive myself through the floor ...

Stormy: Find someplace that makes signage. They can cut a decal for ya, most of them use laser cutters ... places like the one I went to for all the Garg decals I was givin' away at last year's Gathering. :)

Kyryn: AH = Alternate History, AU = Alternate Universe. Better comparison:
AH=works of Harry Turtledove
AU=the alternate worlds of pre-Crisis DC.

Pokemon 2000: Looked pretty decent even with the dumbed-down American trailer. I got one with "Road to El Dorado," which actually announced the release date which in the week since the first Pokemon movie was released and the release of El Dorado, was moved up about four months (from November to July ... they moved it up to compete with, of all things, X-MEN!!).

Blue Caeru: Ah, don't feel so bad, at least Florida isn't losing three of its starting five to graduation (as MSU is losing Cleaves, Mo'Pete and A. J. Grainger), so they're gonna be good for a while ... also consider that now *they* have the Final Four experience that my guys had this year, so they know what to expect. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch next year, so don't get yer hopes down yet. :)
Then again, also consider if Flint was in Florida as opposed to Michigan ... ah well. :)

Gside: Well, consider this, Rutgers' women's team could beat MSU's women's team. (this considering that MSU was a Sweet Sixteen team not five years ago ... now they get knocked out of the first round of the women's NIT)

Mecord: I've received that e-mail too ... though I think I like Wilek's answers better than the originals. ;)

XenaTrek: Hmm ... **pulls out random CD's and such** Nope. Dang, I was hopin' there'd be something in the liner notes ...
Ah well, maybe she's trying the wrong coast? She might consider looking into going to New York and seeing if anyone will bite. She's definitely got the talent to go far, it's just a matter of getting her foot in the door. **looks at the room** Or maybe we should just ask our friend Joe Boxer ... you've been lookin' for a recording studio, right? Maybe you'd have some suggestions. :)

That's all for me for now ... **goes back to mumbling at his portable TV**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
"Spartan teams are bound to win, They're fighting with a vim (RAH RAH RAH!) ..."
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 02:10:55 PM
IP: zzz-209252248079.splitrock.net

Jannie: > Re: A friend of mine called Monday night to make her reservation and was told that there are 30 rooms left. >> NOTE: There *IS* another convention in the same hotel on the same weekend as the Gathering, and they *WILL* fill up rather quickly... if anyone needs help getting a room, please do contact me, and I will make every attempt to find some spaces.

Jannie: >> My parents came on Monday and 'dump' some of my stuff that litterally filled up my apartment, so I can't get to the booklets at this moment. Once I do, I will send them out.

*Question*: Does anyone know anyone in record-label, a producer and/or talent agent that I could give my cousin's name to? She is trying to start her music career, and didn't have much luck in LA when she visited last week. She was told she needed to have someone in the inside such as a producer's name and/or agent. There is a demo tape available. I would greatly appreicate it.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 10:54:12 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Quick update on the hotel room availability:

A friend of mine called Monday night to make her reservation and was told that there are 30 rooms left. That's not many when you consider the volume of people still putting off making their reservations..... O_O I personally know of about 12 people that are planning on attending that have not made their reservations yet.
Anyway, just don't want to see anyone disappointed or scrambling to find a room to crash in for the weekend. :)

34 more school days left for me
121 more days till G2K
117 more days till Denis and I meet! *swoons and drools*
*happy feet dance*
Jannie
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:45:52 AM
IP: 64-240-37-105.hou.port.mytelco.com

Helloooooo! :P

Aaron> Ofcorse youre not the worse pool player! Thats what I'm here for! :P

Gside> <<Haven't we already covered that I love and excell at technobable. >> LOL and havent we already coverd that I am tecnoly retarded! :P Thats ok tho, my friends annoy me like that all the time, I think I'm getting used to it :P

AK! Gotta go!!! SOOOOO LATE!!! BYE!
Caliope
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 08:29:03 AM
IP: 136.145.83.186

DANIEL - If "Gargoyles" were to return, I'd prefer traditional animation to CGI.

*BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: Anybody besides me get the impression that Jonathan was designed as almost a parody of a Mary Sue? Actually, it was quite a good episode, which helped continue the Buffy/Riley development quite well.

ANGEL: Well, further proof that the less said about Cordelia's acting abilities, the better. Angel's transformation definitely spooked me; I'm still wondering over whether the solution for it (the happiness is synthetic, so it's only a surface reversion) was a bit of a cop-out or not, but at least the Rebecca business struck me as nicely written. Wesley definitely seems to be getting more human and less like the stuffy figure that he was in Season Three, whom only Cordelia seemed able to endure.

*SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 07:25:38 AM
IP: 216.87.46.152.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Warpmind staggers in.*
Okay, no more pizza before bedtime... they give me wonky dreams...

**CREATIVITY DEMON DREAM WARNING**
Anton Sevarius. Mutate serum. Carrier virus. Problem...
**CREATIVITY DEMON DREAM OVER**

Stormy: Hey, I didn't mean you should say goodbye... I mean: think of all the neat movie memorabilia you can get that way. :)

Archwolf: Dude, you're a Werewolf player, right? How does this character sound: Jaques Lapin, Werebunny from the New Orleans area... ;) (I may be pulled into a game, and I'm plotting, I'm plotting...)

Mecord: The answers to your questions are fairly simple:
1: You open the door, put the giraffe in, and close the door.
2: You open the door, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant, and close the door.
3: The elephant did not attend. It is still in the fridge.
4: No problem. The crocodiles are attending the conference. :)

Gotta run. See y'all later. :)
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 06:26:36 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Mecord> I simply can't resist ^_^:
<<How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?>>
Build a really big refrigerator or acquire a TARDIS with spectacularly defective environmental controls.
<<How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator ?>>
With a bulldozer, a *large* shoehorn, and the really big refrigerator with the giraffe in it.
<<The Lion King is hosting an animal conference, all the animals attend except one. Which animal does not attend?>>
The giraffe that was mooshed into chunky salsa when the elephant squeezed its gigantic arse into the refrigerator.
<<There is a river you must cross. But it is inhabited by crocodiles. How do you manage it?>>
Hollow out the dead giraffe's torso and use it as a boat, and the large shoehorn as an oar, and hope that crocodiles aren't scavengers. Failing that, tip the refrigerator over and use *it* as a boat. If that doesn't work (I'm not sure how buoyant refrigerators are), get the elephant to give you a lift as penance for accidentally killing the giraffe. Or, since exploiting bereaved animals is rather cruel, just drive the bulldozer across if the river's shallow enough.
These are all probably wrong, but it was fun. ^_^
Wilek
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 03:47:57 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Acctualy, these are best done in order. Only answer the first one for now.
Unless you really feel the need for answering the rest.

Mecord
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 02:11:49 AM
IP: usr53.mtwest.net

I recieved this in my e-mail today and had to share it. I want to hear some of your answers before I post the real answers. No fair giving the answers if you've heard it before.

The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and tells > whether you are qualified to be a "professional".
The questions are not that difficult.
1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?

2 How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator ?

3. The Lion King is hosting an animal conference, all the animals attend except one. Which animal does not attend?

4. There is a river you must cross. But it is inhabited by crocodiles. How do you manage it?

P.s. Gside>> I looked for the plaid you mentioned but couldn't find it anywhere. Of course, I don't have the most complete encyclopedia of tartans. One possibility, many lords would order a special variation of a tarten especially for them. A few have survived and are still around. I did find many that came close to your description, it may be a variation of one of them.
Mecord
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 01:05:22 AM
IP: usr53.mtwest.net

Sorrow: i'd say that that's not fair...but it is. {my own scar's celebrating it's 17th birthday tomorow - you ever thrown a party for an arm? it ain't easy!}.

may you foreevermore be well!!

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 01:04:46 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Yeah! I finished my Physics project that's due on Thursday, so now I won't have to stay up late tomorrow night before tryouts. I need all the free time I can get. My burn is almost completely healed with a surprisingly small scar. Whopee.

Joe> I love you too Matt.
SOROW
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 01:01:11 AM
IP: dll2a020-0841.splitrock.net

www.TheSpark.com tests, now that I've gotten around to them>
25% bastard, 14% of which is Tard (eh?), and 88% of people are more apt to kill Kenny than I.
I am not currently pregnant (and, somehow, I doubt that'll ever change :P).
If human, I would be a millionaire at 42, of which I would make $51,000 doing odd jobs for the Pope (assassinating high-ranking Satan worshippers, perhaps? <evil grin> j/k).
In my life, I'll have sex with 1 person, who will be my true love, at age 20 (um, they're a little late). I have a 71% chance of dying in the act (why am I not surprised), so I hope she's pretty emotionally stable.
I am 49% 'Un-telligent' (their term for the ability to think on one's feet, or so I gather; mine is significantly lower than the average of 60%, which I've somehow known all along). Their custom report was fascinating: "The subject shows a very high level of intelligence, and his sense of observation is one of his best qualities...the subject exhibits brave tendencies...what concerns us most about him is his sinister and violent attitude. While we almost find it amusing that the subject would rather kill something than suffer a minor inconvenience, it effectively destroys his ability to survive tight situations...the subject displayed a healthy (better than most net freaks anyway) sense of humor, a godlike (and annoying) sense of morality, and a barbaric self-confidence." I shall never stop laughing (and the fact that anything about me has been called 'godlike' has done terrifying things to my ego :P).
I didn't bother with the Death Test; it's calibrated too much for humans.
I am 96% Pure, more so than 99% of people.

Storms> Hate 'em. Those <censored> have been responsible for damaging more of my property than anything else I've ever gone through. Judicious remodeling has taken care of the occasional flooding, but that doesn't stop the kind of lightning damage that brought about the demise of my last computer.

Niamhgold> <<Needless to say, Seph was my fave!>> Ohhh, yes. I have never encountered a creepier video game character in my entire life. I finished Disc 1 of the game a while back, and the bit with him in the Temple...<SHUDDER> <> There's a PlayStation game called Final Fantasy Anthology that has somewhat upgraded versions of I think 5 and 6. Failing that, you could get the ROM of 6 at http://www.emunation.com/ (that's where I got it). :)

Aaron> <<BTW, was the stuffed penguin joke a reference to Anita Blake?>> Linux, actually. :)

Silverstar> Glad you've found a new place to live. ^_^ <<My great-grandfather killed a guy in a bar fight (in Scotland) then fled to America and changed his last name.>> COOL... 8)

Jenna> <> Me too, actually; the critters are interesting from a xenozoology standpoint, and the game is an amusing diversion. :) I've been thinking of checking out the movie...

Winterwolf> Welcome! Surrender your sanity, and stay away from the car with the Decepticon logo. :P

Mecord> <<On your April fools post did you use Cocytus or was that my imagination? Isn’t Cocytus one of the rivers of hell?>> It was Cocytus, and that is in fact the name of one of the rivers of hell, and also of one of my fic characters (namely, the most evil, insane, and dangerous living thing in my entire ficverse, and considering the kind of sociopaths I write, that is saying a lot). :)

Rodlox> <<if light hits a dog's eyes at night, what color are they? green?>> Um...I suspect it's different for every breed, or maybe even every dog--my neighbors have two dogs. One has white eyes when the light hits them, and the other has red eyes.
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, April 5, 2000 12:22:57 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

*sneaks in the room when no one is watching. Quickly shines a light, which temporarily blinds everyone in the room. Then removes all candles and light bulbs from the room before everyone regains sight.*

I have a few questions: If gargoyles was to be re-animated, should the series be done in cell animation or cgi animation? How much does the copyright rights to gargoyles the series cost? If gargoyles started with one year before the massacre, how would have things been different?

Thanks TGS staff for continuing the series.

*decides to leave solar-powered light bulbs in the room.*
Daniel Paul Hightower
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 10:06:02 PM
IP: max1-67.cwy.cei.net

Off Yellow (Is there any way we can get tan in here?)

Mecord> Plaid: Any idea where a plaid with a dark green backgound crossed by one line of white perpendicular to three lines of red came from?

Jenna> Bradbury: I knew I like him for some reason.

CtB> <<if only we could find someone who could run simulations of the cars if we gave 'em specs>>: You do. It's called Carmageddon II.
<<MICHIGAN STATE / 2000 NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!>>: Sure, celebrate, even after our women lost to that foul shooting... Oh well, at least they are going to ring the Old Queens bell for the first time since the eighties.

Warpmind> <<TOP!... o'the morning>>: And the rest o'the day ta ye.
<<Oy, don't be upset, buddy>>: I don't think I really was upset, but I probably have some unrelated issues... I never was quite normal, anyway.

Caliope> <<O-kay....sorry I asked>>: As well you should be. I love to cut and paste.
<>: Haven't we already covered that I love and excell at technobable.

Aaron> <<Well, Wilek was talking about anti-vampire equipment, so if figured the penguin was an extension of that. You're probably right tho'>>: You are right. Don't you know Tux is a holy symbol! He has been a rallying symbol for many a holy war! (see Jargon File (holy wars entry): http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/ )

Archwolf> <>: Black Adder, maybe?

Mecord> <<[The lightsabre duel] the best part of the movie anyway>>: Mmm, Duel of the Fates...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 10:04:12 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Just wanted to say hi to Elisagirl and Winterwolf. I feel so bad for not saying it sooner. I hope both of you like it in here. : )

silverstar
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 10:01:01 PM
IP: l2p18.dav.mother.com

Guess not. *shugs* But that was wicked anyway. Anyway, I'm trying to catch up right now and will be back later. :)
Anne
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 09:55:57 PM
IP: 209-130-164-172.nas1.apv.gblx.net

So is bad Angel back or what???
Anne
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 09:48:38 PM
IP: 209-130-164-172.nas1.apv.gblx.net

*Cyborg enters the room, a large wooden chest with brass fittings follows her in on its many little legs. She spots Archwolf and points him out to the Luggage. It oppends it's lid for her and she reaches in, pulling out a hardcover book qualified 'oversized' with a slashed purple cover. She thumbs through the book then reads...*

Archwolf: The five auspices are, Ragabash (tricksters are born under the new moon), Theurge (seers are born under the Crescent Moon), Philodox (judges are born under the Half Moon), Galliard (moon dancers are born under the Gibbous Moon), and Ahroun (warriors are born under the Full Moon).
As for the Litany: "Combat the Wyrm wherever it dwells and whenever it breeds."

*She stops reading and returns the volume to the Luggage. As they leave, she asks if it would stay to play with her untill her 3000 mile check- up.*

Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 09:39:22 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Hi all, gosh I can't believe how fast the time flies...but I miss getting in here. Work went well today even though we are short handed and I can't ever seem to get caught up on anything that needs to be done. But, I've got the next two days Off and am looking forward to them.

Christine>> Happy belated bday!

Ironwolf>>glad to see you around again, condolances on your grandfather's passing.

so now here's a great joke hope you all enjoy it!

> A policeman was interrogating 3 blondes who were training to become detectives. To test their skills in recognizing a suspect, he shows the first blonde a picture for 5 second and then hides it.

"This is your suspect, how would you recognize him?"

The first blonde answers, "That's easy, we'll catch him fast because he only has one eye!" The policeman says, "Well...uh...that's because the picture shows his profile."
Slightly flustered by this ridiculous response, he flashes the picture for 5 seconds at the second blonde and asks her,

"This is your suspect, how would you recognize him?"

The second blonde giggles, flips her hair and says, "Ha! He'd be too easy to catch because he only has one ear!"

The policeman angrily responds, "What's the matter with you two?? Of course only one eye and one ear are SHOWING because it's a picture of his profile!! Is that the best answer you can come up with?

Extremely frustrated at this point, he shows the picture to the third blonde and in a very testy voice asks,

"This is your suspect, how would you recognize him?" He quickly adds "...think hard before giving me a stupid
answer."

The blonde looks at the picture intently for a moment and
says, "Hmmmm...the suspect wears contact lenses."

The policeman is surprised and speechless because he
really doesn't know himself if the suspect wears contacts or not.

"Well, that's an interesting answer...wait here for a few
minutes while I check his file and I'll get back to you on that." He leaves the room and goes to his office, checks the
suspect's file in his computer, and comes back with a beaming smile on his face. "Wow! I can't believe it...it's TRUE! The suspect does in fact wear contact lenses. Good work! How were you able to make such an astute observation?"
"That's easy," the blonde replied. "He can't wear regular
glasses because he only has one eye and one ear."

catch you all next time
Delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
Twin Falls, Idaho
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 09:29:25 PM
IP: twin58nn.magiclink.com

Aaron: Heh, "sagacity": I get it. I haven't seen "Trial of a Time Lord" in years and I don't have it tape but now I have an uncontrollable urge to watch it. Now I have to go find it somewhere. Lookwhat you did! :)

Winterwolf, Elisagirl: As a fellow new poster, Welcome!

Mecord, Taleweaver: Ah, Tron. I remember it well. And I do have THAT on tape. I guess I'm going to have to watch that too.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 09:28:59 PM
IP: ppp-16.rb5.exit109.com

here's hoping that this one doesn't start a war:

if light hits a dog's eyes at night, what color are they? green?

what are some _POLITE_ words for a female dog? therre's 'a dam(m)', right?

Rodlox
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 08:50:36 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*strolls in, clad in the usual dark blue trench coat*

Kaioto> *raises an eyebrow* You're actually changing your text color? Oh well, grey is one of the colors I tend to associate you with anyway. :-)

Jenna> Love the Bradbury quote!

Coyote the Bando> Aww, rub it in why dontcha?! :-P Just kidding, though it hardly seems fair that one team should be so excessively talented. I think our team was just still too young and inexperienced. But Go Gators! anyway.

Xanatos' reform> I thought it was done pretty well. (OK, this is probably a rehash of what others have said already.) We get hints of it in the ep where Fox has the Eye of Odin and transforms, and he says something about love being his weakness. At that point he's actually thinking of someone other than himself, and it naturally extends to his son when he's born.

TimeDancer> Maybe I like angst too much, but I'm awaiting the episode where Brooklyn finally truly confronts the fact that Sata is gone (well, she's not actually gone, but I'm sure you all know what I mean).

*glances at her watch and dashes out, managing to wave good-bye* *mutters* Cursed French homework...
Blue Caeru - [BlueCaeru@cs.com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 08:21:44 PM
IP: spider-wn064.proxy.aol.com

**The doors hiss open and a dark robed figure enters the CR. The figure ignites a red lightsaber and changes to a combat stance. The hood is thrown back revealing a dark-haired elf.**

Hi all!! Just bought Episode one and watched the lightsaber fight. It's the best part of the movie anyway.

Archwolf>> Ah, don't worry about the Baldric/Bardic thing. It don't matter that much.

Taleweaver>> I was wondering if anyone would catch the Tron reference. It’s hard to find people that remember that classic.

Winterwolf>> Hello and welcome to the CR. We have a couple wolves running around here in various stages of lycanthropy. I’m sure they’ll welcome you to the pack. Just remember, don’t eat the elf! :)
I think your right, it was a little strange that the clan let Brooklyn off so easy. I think there may have been a little behind the scenes talk among the clan (probably headed by Goliath) in which they decided to drop it. As for the family keeping quiet, well, every now and then they twins let something slip.
I have to disagree in part with you on the Xanatos score though. Your right on the score that his priorities have changed, but I don’t think he’s given up completely on the immortality bit yet. It may not be that he’s not willing to pay the price, it may be that he’s looking for new ways to pay with cash. I think he’s unwilling to become immortal and remain alone. He has a family he cares about now. If he can find a way to become immortal and bring his family along with him, I think he would. As powerful as Alex is, he may just be bidding his time to see if the kid can grant his wish. This is all my opinion of course, but I feel that it was his methods and motives that changed, while his goals simply raised another notch or two.

Wilek>> On your April fools post did you use Cocytus or was that my imagination? Isn’t Cocytus one of the rivers of hell? It took a day or so for the reference to register.

*****WARNING, YET ANOTHER RP*****
Bardic, Lloky, Senthet, Thicarrn, and Mecord assembled in a private part of the Avatar.
Mecord looked impatient, “Where’s Lithanne?”
“She disappeared. We couldn’t find her anywhere.”
“Great, just wonderful, we don’t have time to wait for her. We have to move now.”

Elsewhere on the Avatar:
The intruder was clever. Every trap had been avoided, every deterrent disregarded, and only one of the more subtle warnings had been tripped. But for the Dark Mage, that was more than enough. With his back still turned, the blue Gargoyle waved his hand over a cane with a golden dragon’s head. Behind him their was a shriek and a shadow fell from the ceiling. The magic that hid the intruder melted away, revealing a female elf. She was tall for an elf, nearly six feet. Her hair was a dark blond and braided; her face battle hardened. But what interested him the most was her obvious affinity for dark works.
“How did you find me?” he asked of her.
“You could say, I’m more attuned to your power than most others,” she croaked.
“Yes I can see that. And what are you planning to do here?”
“I’m here for a job.”
“To complete a job or to find a job I wonder? No matter, your talents could be of use to me,” he tossed a necklace to her, “Put that on… my apprentice.”
*****End of RP ‘till next time*****

Mecord Lein
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 07:58:44 PM
IP: usr1.mtwest.net

Ooops...forgot a couple things...sorry.

Cyborg><>Ack. No rush. Concentrate on the paper. If you can get it to me, great, I appreaciate it, but if not, don't worry about it. I can find the info elswhere.

Mecord>$D'OH! I did it again...I really did mean Bardic...I don't know where Baldric came from. Won't happen again. $

Laters
*Runs back out to the waiting wolfpack.*
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 07:09:51 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

*Archwolf and Warfrost wander back into the room, and, you guessed it, Archwolf's fur is smouldering..again*

Winterwolf>Welcome to the CR.<<Does anyone else feel that it is a little strange that no one in the clan tries to get information about Brooklyn's journey with the Phoenix Gate? Or even how his entire family can keep quiet.>> But they have. Broadway asks if Brooklyn knows something about the relationship between Broadway and Angela. Goliath also asks for information regarding the formation of the Gargoyle council. But Brooklyn basicaly shuts them both down. I'm sure Goliath knows that Broklyn's story of not remembering much is a snow job, but he is wise enough to respect his second's wishes about keeping things to himself. He has to suspect that a good bit of what Brooklyn saw druing the Dance hurt him. So he wouldn't want to bring up bad memories. Now, Lexington is a different story. he wants to know what happened, but instead of trying to bully anything out of Brooklyn or Sata (the two adult gargoyles who seem to care for/appreciate him) he hangs around with the kids. They _can't_ keep quite about things. The forget he is around or think he cannot here, and let info slip. I think this is going to lead to some unpleasant revbelations for lexington. No one should know too much about thier own futur.

*Cocks his head, listening to the wind* Well, gotta run. The pack is moving out, and i gotta go with 'em

Shade and Sweet water.

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 07:03:58 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

***comes in obnoxiously happy***

I am actually having a good day! One reason: no rats in the bush! Another: Our day and classes were shorter because of a rally.

Cyborg> EWWW! That is gross! (gags) I really do dislike rats. One time my cat brought me a mouse. I didn't wnt her to eat it so I buried it, but I almost had a repeat of lunch.

Mecord> Thanks for the birthday wish! :)

Jenna> Thank you! *return hugz*
I too heard about the POKEMON 2000 movie. I think the characters are CUTE, but one Pokemon movie is enough for me for now.

*Bye*

***bounds outta' room***
silverstar
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 06:27:27 PM
IP: l1p29.dav.mother.com

Kyryn: for a great definition of AH, AU, and the rest, click on my name. simply put: AH is a "what if" story {which many people confuse with AU, sad to say}.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 06:07:38 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***Kyryn sneaks in***

Rodlox> What exactly is an AH or an AU?

***Kyryn sneaks out again***
Kyryn
Denton, Tx
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 06:01:51 PM
IP: 216.35.46.135

Stormy> I have a .gif of the decepticon logo that I found on Alta Vista. You can either try Alta Vista with the search terms "Transformers Toys" or just e-mail me and I'll send you a copy of the file. Let me know what you want to do, since I have no particular use for a purple robot head on my hard drive. :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 05:42:55 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Aaron: We don't have Hot Topic in Canada. Maybe Cyrway will get me one--she made a hint to something like that...

Warpmind: no! NO! I LIKE my Decepticar!

(And funny you should mention bankrobbers. I wrote a part of a fanfic where two car thieves try to steal Beretta-the-Decepticon and get a ride of their lives :)

welcome Winterwolf!

Xanatos: it would be interesting for a fic where all of a sudden, Xanatos up and lapses back into his old ways for ONE PARTICULAR ITEM and the clan has to deal with --"do we let this go? Do we try to stop him? Where would we move to? What about Alex? etc."
Stormy - [<--so what do you call a half-wolfhound, half-archaeopteryx techno-organic Fuzor?]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 05:23:50 PM
IP: pc24.huron.uwo.ca

Gside> Well, Wilek was talking about anti-vampire equipment, so if figured the penguin was an extension of that. You're probably right tho'.

Caliope> Maybe I'm not the worst. I don't pop the cue ball off the table (much) and the balls even go where I tell them to once in a while. I am, however, the king of the choke. I can't put an eight ball down to save my life.

Stormy> If you want a Decepticon symbol, try Hot Topic. That's where I got the one for my Nova.

Winterwolf> Welcome. Please surrender any sanity you may have to the room admins.

I got my G2K registration confirmed today. I would happy dance, but then you'd all be scared for life.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 03:54:20 PM
IP: ppp-20.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Lineage: I'm all Irish, a first generation in the new world, but I have grown up with alot of Italian culture, because my mother was adopted by an Italian family as a girl. Does that make me 50/50?

Silverstar: You don't like rats? I can understand. I don't know how, but somehow my wonderfull little pussycat decided to hide a dead rat in my room. It took me a month to figure out that she had done that, and another week to find it. It was awfull.

Archwolf: I will try to find that information for you, I have access to a White Wolf library, but I also have a term paper due next week.

Time for my 3000 mile check- up, bye!
Cyborg - [scur@ssd.dawsoncollege.qc.ca]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 03:38:32 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

This is my first post here. I've found TGS shortly after it was created back when I was in college. After I graduated I didn't check the site for a long time. It was at least a year, no more than two. During the time I was away I felt like there was something missing and of course it had been the gargoyles. I've caught up on all the TGS stories. Go Time Dancer season 3! I have to say I think the writers are doing a really good job. I'd love to help out on the site any way I can.

Reading through the comment room a few times, I felt it might be difficult to just jump in. I suppose most things worth doing aren't easy. This is definitely a year of growth for me. I started skiing this year. I decided to go to the Gathering this year, another first. There's this post. Just wait the year is still young. It also became something that I wanted to do because I find myself interested in most of the topics of discussion.

Does anyone else feel that it is a little strange that no one in the clan tries to get information about Brooklyn's journey with the Phoenix Gate? Or even how his entire family can keep quiet.

Taleweaver> I agree about Xanatos' reform. The turning point for Xanatos was Goliath and the clan helping against Oberon. I think that rather than completely give up his goal for power, Xanatos has reorganized his priorities. Power is not the first thing on his list. Also, he's smart. He remembers that magic always has a price. I don't think he is willing to pay the price for immortality anymore. He would lose everyone he loves because they are mortal. Of course that is assuming this spell would even give him immortality as he is now. Remember the cauldron of life?

Rodlox> Interesting thought about how some gargoyles like Brooklyn produce more offspring. No wonder Sata had twins :)

Hatchlings learning to glide> For the most part I'd say it is a combination of learning and instinct. As for hatchlings killing themselves from a fall, I think that is extremely unlikely. First, there is likely to be supervision. Even on Avalon the Magus could save a falling hatchling with a spell. Second, like with most things you start of small. The hatchlings wouldn't get pushed off a cliff. Maybe they would start off on a low tree branch. Third, they are gargoyles. Gargoyles are supposed to be tougher than humans are. I remember a true story of a guy that jumped off a five-story building to kill himself. He hit the ground got up and went to try again. He went to a nice padded cell before he could try a second time.

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, New York, USA
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 03:34:08 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

i have a question for the wonderfull, wonderfull TGS staff:

{this may get me in trouble; but i won't shuck responsibility}

may i write an AH or AU of one of the Timedancer eps? i would send it to you(s) for proof-reading once done, to obtain/not-obtain authorization to post/delete the story.

thank you for your time, o great ones.

ACD.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 02:55:49 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Mecord> Ah, a Tron fan, I see. Of course now, Tron is more suited to be a $500,000 question.

Rodlox> I think Xanatos' refrm is beautifully illustrated in "Restore Amends" if your looking for material on his growth. I don't think he reformed because he saw what kind of person Oberon was. I think what turned him around was the fact that Goliath and the clan, after all he put them through, still risked their lives to help him. And in the end of Gathering, it wasn't power that won the day, it was Goliath's quick thinking. Immortality's great (when your young) but I think Xanatos got a glimpse of something better and it made him reassess his world-view.

Christine> Happy un-Birthday to you. I prefer un-Birthdays to B-days. It reminds us to savor each day, not just one.

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 11:15:36 AM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

Hey hey! :) Hope everyone is doin' good!

Doug> Thanx! I really do hope we get back to normal, I stoped going to the gargoyles CR cuz it just got boring and then I kindda feel out of things, but I hope I dont have to leave here, lots of cool ppl! :)

Green Baron> Well, thats not too good, but is your sister older or yonger than you? I also herd that insurence is cheper for women then for men, or at least used to be, I dont remember.

Aaron> *stares* Oh puleez! YOU?! The world's worst pool player?! Yeah, right! HA! Rookie wanna be! :P

Archwolf> I understand that that is the best thing to do, to simple controle yorself, but I dont think that diferences of opinions should be a reason at all for ppl not to get along. I think everyone should remember that a persons rights stop where the next persons rights start...

Gside>...*reads vanilla definition*...O-kay....sorry I asked! :P Naw, I'm kidding, thanx for the explanation...I understud the gist of it, except for all the tecno babble :P

Well! I must be off! I'll see ya guys! *HUGZ for all* * ^_~ *
Caliope
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 08:42:11 AM
IP: 136.145.83.183

Coyote: >> Saw the last few minutes to the big game. We've won! WAHOO! Go State.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 08:07:06 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Rodlox (re:Xanatos)>> I always found this an interesting subject. Throughout the original series, he wanted power. Whatever extras came along with that, he'd be happy to take with him. As Greg Weisman once said regarding character's religions: "Xanatos believes in himself."

I believe that in "The Gathering", Xanatos changed as a person. He saw Oberon and thought to himself "If this is what ultimate power does to you, I don't know if I want it it anymore." So, through his reform, he lost sight of his goal and began to focus on his own redemption, much like Angel on Buffy, only to a lesser extent.

Throughout TGS (and one episode of the original series), Xanatos has tried to earn back the trust of the Maza family and the clan. Up until an episode in season two, he was doing a fairly good job. In "Offers", there came a chance for his goal of immortality to be realiazed once more, and he turned in down. But he kept the envelope... just in case.

As Angel once said to Wesley, "You're not going to kill me, but you're willing to. And that's okay." I think this quote applies to Xanatos. Throughout the series, the only thing that has remained constant is that he will do whatever it takes to get what he once.

Okay... time for class... gotta go.
Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa, TX
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 07:44:23 AM
IP: ppp-46.ode.cableone.net

*Warpmind enters, followed by his chibis, who occupy the entire couch.*
Hmmm... they seem to be gettin' comfy here...

Ooo, TOP!... o'the morning...

Revel: Aside from having played (and won) Wing Commander IV, the game, I am utterly unfamiliar with the Wing Commander universe. Never read the books, never saw the movie, and, quite frankly, only the books seem vaguely interesting...

Elisagirl: Lass, the cliffhangers are a necessity to make people come back to get next episode... wait, the TGS stories are so good, the cliffhangers are redundant... Aw, you know what I mean. :)

Skippy: I'll proofread for ya, gladly. :)

Gside: *Nudges Gside in the ribs.* Oy, don't be upset, buddy. Tell you what, let's just forget about the whole misunderstanding, okay? :)

Wilek: About time... :)

Gunjack Valentine: Dude, you can read it, but the deadline's over. Tell you what: I'll send you a copy of the finished Beta: it's WAY better. :)

Stormy: I'm the third... oh-kayyy... Ever pondered lending it to bank robbers? ;) Maybe lease it to Hollywood? :)

**RP**
Warpmind sneaks out of his quarters, seeking the still-living, soulless body of the Quencher. After a while of searching, he locates her in a holding cell.
"Computer, unlock cell. Captive is harmless."
The computer doorlock hums, and opens. Warpmind kneels by the Quencher, and seizes her left hand. Wilek appears in the doorway.
"Hey, what are you doing?"
"I am retrieving my fiancé's engagement ring. She stole it two years ago."
Warpmind yanks the ring off of the Quencher's finger, and slides it on his own right ring finger, making the two identical rings touch each other. They begin to glow, and a female shape stands in the middle of the room, silently smiling. Wilek gapes.
"Who... who..."
"That is Janne, my late fiancé. The Quencher killed her and trapped her soul in this ring. She is now free... free to pass on."
The woman fades and is gone, a thin wisp of smoke grazing Warpmind before dissolving into the air.
"I could explain, but it would take long..."
Warpmind and Wilek stare at each other for a loooong time...
**RP END**

Well, gotta scoot. Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [de_InzanE@xoommail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 04:06:39 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

>>>>>GRAY/GREY...AS ALWAYS<<<<<

small question - or not:

when the series Gargoyles began, David Xanatos was searching for - among other things - immortality....has anyone written an essay on Xanatos's personal growth?

does the man even long for immortality anymore?

just wondering.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 02:03:25 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

hey all. well, i got my precal test back today, and it is the highest precal grade i've gotten all year(nothing comes even remotely close). i made a 97 which was one of the most highest grades if not the higest in the class. unfortunately, because of my past grades, i am still not passing. on a good side, i think i have about a 63 average, which makes me eligable for all band activites. but getting the good grade today made me feel stupid in a sense that i could have gotten good grades all year if i had only worked a little harder. SOROW on the other hand did not feel so well. she came to class dressed all scrubby and tired. her hair was in a pony tail, and her eyes were red. i felt so sad for her that i wanted to cry (but i didn't cause i'm a man) my baby looks so cute even when she's miserable......

Doug: thanks for the support man. it means alot to me and SOROW. and because she's under alot of pressure and is pressed on time, i will just thank you for her.

BTW: can some please give me the address or link for the purity test? although i know that i will not pass it would be fun to compare between me a SOROW:)
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 12:50:50 AM
IP: spider-wk042.proxy.aol.com

Jenna- Actually, "Pokemon 2000" is the Japanese Pokemon 99... Called "Revelation Luiga" in Japan, it should be good assuming the dialouge doesn't get dumbed down again... (The fact that the title has been changed already worries me...) The *REAL* Pokemon 2000 is to be released in Japan this summer and will involve a mysterious tower. Basically, we're a year behind... (Incidentally, at the last SAAS meeting, we saw the English trailer for it and then the Japanese trailer... The japanese trailer was somewhat more impressive.)
Robby
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 12:45:09 AM
IP: spider-tn074.proxy.aol.com

Stormy: Hmm ... good question ... if only we could find someone who could run simulations of the cars if we gave 'em specs ...

Pardon the odd color, but I just gotta celebrate ... it was an awesome game, and I'm real happy about it ... even happier that no riots have broken out yet! **insert knocking on hard hickory**

MICHIGAN STATE
2000 NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Coyote the Bando
"Go right through for MSU, Watch the points keep growing ..."
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 12:15:09 AM
IP: zzz-209252248209.splitrock.net

Came across this quote today--

"The animated cartoon is just about the purest, least arguable, most invigorating art form invented since mankind did shadow shows with wriggling fingers, then trapped them in cave-wall graffiti 200 generations ago..."- Ray Bradbury
jenna
Tuesday, April 4, 2000 12:13:41 AM
IP: 2cust80.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

**Mecord meanders in briefly**

Not much to add today.

Gside>> <Dark Green (a good component in a plaid)> The Henderson clan colors (my clan) is a dark green background with yellow and light blue at perpendicular angles. The effect is verry soothing actually. It's one of the few effective uses for yellow in my oppinion.

Silverstar, Stephen, Anne, and anyone else with a birthday in close proximity>> Happy Birthday and congratulations for lasting another year. :)

Purity>> I think I missed this one during my absence. Is this on a site somewhere? If so can someone lead me to a link, sounds interesting.

Okay, that's all for now. Be back tomorrow! :)

**A laser traces Mecord's form and transforms him into digital information to transfer him out of the room.**

Mecord
Monday, April 3, 2000 11:44:33 PM
IP: usr14.mtwest.net

Good vs evil link- enjoy!!!
jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 10:54:24 PM
IP: 1cust176.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net

Dark Green (a good component in a plaid)

Wilek> <<The guy who writes User Friendly>>: Illiad. For some reason the Penny Arcade people (Tycho Brahe and Gabriel) seem to hate his guts.
<<<<So where did Piette come from?>> <blink> Who?>>: Peitte, the third guy in the human shell game from Chrono Trigger.
<>: My favorite party: Sabin (Fire Dance, Air Blade, Bum Rush), Edgar (Auto Crossbow, Drill, Chain Saw), Cyan (Quadra*), and Celes or Terra (must use Atma Weapon)

Oh yeah, FF fans might want to stop by rpgamer.com to see a Coke add starring FFIX characters.

Rodlox> <<actually, the ‘other-wise’ was a reference to Other>>: I still think it is a fun quote.

Daniel Johnson> <<Questions? Comments? [bad -ed] Jokes?>>: Why did the Chicken cross the road? To get away from Frank Perdue.

Cali`ope> <<what do you mean by "the vanilla CR" ?>>: From the Jargon File (http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/): "vanilla: adj. [from the default flavor of ice cream in the U.S.] Ordinary flavor, standard. When used of food, very often does not mean that the food is flavored with vanilla extract! For example, `vanilla wonton soup' means ordinary wonton soup, as opposed to hot-and-sour wonton soup. Applied to hardware and software, as in "Vanilla Version 7 Unix can't run on a vanilla 11/34." Also used to orthogonalize chip nomenclature; for instance, a 74V00 means what TI calls a 7400, as distinct from a 74LS00, etc. This word differs from canonical in that the latter means `default', whereas vanilla simply means `ordinary'. For example, when hackers go on a great-wall, hot-and-sour soup is the canonical soup to get (because that is what most of them usually order) even though it isn't the vanilla (wonton) soup."
It's the CR without the added descriptive.

Shadowrider> <<dont' you like Bright Green>>: I personally have nothing against it, but I was mostly descriping a shade of green from outside the CR for which my description would most likely be accurate.

Niamhgold> <>: Quite understandable. And you would probably lose those two hours of sleep you manage to get now.

Green Baron> <<You're more pure than I am>>: Are you sure you read my number right? I actually got ~84% (if I remember), which they claim is more pure than 97% of the population.

Aaron> <<was the stuffed penguin joke a reference to Anita Blake>>: I'd assume it was refering to Tux, the Linux penguin.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
NEw Brunswick, NJ
Monday, April 3, 2000 10:50:36 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Rodlox--uh, I don't understand your question. Here is a link to my stories.
jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 10:46:14 PM
IP: 1cust176.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net

Time for things to reluctantly get back to normal hereabouts ... Crzy went home today. That means it's back to work and the regular grind, drat!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 10:32:57 PM
IP: 09-045.009.popsite.net

*A ssliver of silver light splits the air near the CR wall. The sliver pulses, and bright silver light fills the room. When the pulse dies away, Archwolf stands in the room. As usual, his fur is smoldering* Hehe. Boy, what a rush. Anyway.

Can anyone out there email me the Names of all 5 Werewolf Auspices, as well as the exact line from the Litany about Hunting the Wyrm (it think it is Hunt the Wyrm where ever it dwells, but i'm not sure). I really need it, and there are no bookstores near me that cary the source books for white wolf stuff, and my own copy is burried somewhere in my closet at my parents' house in pittsburgh. Please, I really really need it.

Patrick Toman>Yay! I'm not the only Gargoyle's fan in Cleveland!

Mecord><<The Scottish folk were also known to have intermingled with Viking blood. According to some theories it was this intermingling that gave Scottland its redheads (don’t know how true that is). >>If i remember right, the red hair comes from the Scotts' Irish Ancestry. The scotts ended up in Pictland(Scotland) after being exiled from Ireland (religous reasons). Couple that with mingling with the Picts, and, well, there you have it. At least, if I remember things correctly.

Fandom Problems>> Well, maybe not _problems_ but issues> I think people leaving, while lamentable, is definitely normals and to be expected. There are a LOT of different people with just as many different opinions. A clash is ineitable. The problems are comming in when these clashes are allowed to continue to get more and more personal in nature. Mec's right: Don't take it personaly. At the point where you are starting to get offended, either say that calmly, or just say someting like 'I dissagree with you, but I will no longer continue in this line.' Works for me.

Nuff said

**RP here**
Archwolf and Warfrost watched Mecord and Baldric dissapear into the station. Archwolf crouched next to the huge direwolf and whispered. "We should probably follow him." [Why] was the wolf's response. "Well, to find out what he's really upto." [You have to trust some one, cub. ] the direwolf shook his head [But maybe you spent too long as an assassin to be able to understand trust anymore]. Archwolf rolled his eyes. "Can we save the moral and pshycological for later?" Archwolf thought for a moment. "Alright. IF this DarkMage is trying to make some sort of clone or something, he is going to need to gather a LOT of spiritual energy. Doing that would weaken the Gauntlet, wouldn't it?" The direwolf thought, then nodded. "Ok. He's also going to have to be somewhere where there won't be any energy interference, i think." He thought again. "Right. We'll search the areas the farthes away from any large power source, and use the Gauntlet strenght to refine our search." With that, the two wandered off to find a computer console that would allow them to get a schematic of the station. "This could be a long day."
**End RP**

Shade and Sweet water, all
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 09:34:33 PM
IP: viking203-43.dhcp.csuohio.edu

Jenna: which fic was yours?
just wondering.

thanks.

Rodlox
Monday, April 3, 2000 08:36:36 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Silverstar- glad you found a place to live sweetie- Hugz-
jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 07:05:58 PM
IP: 1cust87.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE TO GO BACK TO THE MOVIES--

POKEMON 2000 AND NO, I'M NOT KIDDING!!!!

Actually, I'm excited about this because I am one of these sick individuals who like Pokemon. :P So here's the trailer for anyone who interested--^_^

Aaron- glad you liked it - that scene was really hard for me to do- but I felt it was necessary given what will happen next.

Naimigold- glad you liked it! ^_^
jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 07:04:08 PM
IP: 1cust87.tnt4.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Hi all!

We finally found a place to live! It's a nice house, but not too big. The only thing that is bad about it is that I have to go to a different school next year. : P

Kitiana> Um, Blink 182 isn't a female band. I was just saying that there should be female bands LIKE them. I am so sorry if you got that confused. I feel dumb for getting you confused. Can I just say one thing? D'oh! Really I am sorry that I got you confused. : ) Thank you for wishing me luck with my classes next year, but I am not taking them on account that I will go to a different school, and I don't think those classes are available. If we are on the same level for speaking a foreign language then you must also be BAD! I have a B in that class, only 'cause I turn in work.

Heritage> I don't really know what this is about cause I didn't read all the posts, but I'll say something on it anyway. My heritage is Scottish, Irish and German. My last name would be O'Neal, but things went differently. The story: My great-grandfather killed a guy in a bar fight (in Scotland) then fled to America and changed his last name. After that he entered the Military, had a family and died. Nice guy! ***being sarcastic***

***Small rant***
This morning I was getting ready for school and left my house early. I was locking the door and then turned around when all of a sudden our bush moved. I went to go look becuase I thought it was a bird, and boy was I wrong! It was a huge, fat, ugly rat! (shudders) I looked at it, slowly turned around, and then pratically ran away from the bush. (shudders again) EWWWWWW! I can stand mice but not rats, especially if they are half the size of my cats.
***End small rant***

Well, I have homework to do. Got a report that is due on Tuesday next week (of course it has to be on my birthday!) and I haven't even started on it.
*BYE!*
silverstar
Monday, April 3, 2000 06:59:47 PM
IP: l2p51.dav.mother.com

One other difference between Oberon and Madoc in TGS: the respective motives for their "amours" that led to their half-human sons. Oberon seduces Umbriel's mother because he is temporarily attracted to her, and probably never even considered the possibility that a child could result from their union - I have the suspicion that he didn't even know about Umbriel until Madoc brought up Umbriel's death at the end of "Night of the Weird". Madoc seduces Merlin's mother purely so that he can have a son by her, and she means nothing to him. (I have the theory, though of course I couldn't directly use it in any TGS stories because of S&P, that even when he did sleep with her, he imagined that he was doing it with Titania, although I seriously doubt that he told her that).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, April 3, 2000 06:27:44 PM
IP: 216.87.46.215.dialup-stl.primary.net

COYOTE: Hmm...dragracing the staffcar against Bluestone's Cadillac...heh heh heh...sounds like Cyrway's Fanfic Deathmatch. How do we decide the winner??

WARPMIND: You are the THIRD person who, independently, has linked my car to Christine. I've taken to referring to it as "the illegitimate offspring of Christine and The Love Bug."

WILEK: Exorcise it? Nah. Actually, I LIKE having it play tricks on people. After it ate my university ID card and my military ID card, though, I swore I'd trade it in for a new Cavalier if it ever cost me another meal again (both those cards held my meal balance on them). So far, so good.

(I found the military ID card over a year later, on the floor of the backseat. Do not even ASK me how. I checked under the cushions three times the week I lost it and almost never put ANYTHING on the back seat floor.)

Incidentally, over on the Beast Machines RP, I needed an evil character. Guess what machine I picked. :p Click to see a rendition of The Heavy Metal Bird in robot mode (plus Panzer Deuce).

I want to get a Decepticon logo sticker to stick on the demoncar's trunk, between the spoiler and the lock. :)
Stormy - [<--My evil car is a Vehicon.]
Monday, April 3, 2000 06:11:46 PM
IP: pc22.huron.uwo.ca

Aaron wanders in, dragging a pool table. Come one, come all, and face the world's worst pool player.

Today is National Nap at Work Day, so catch a powernap after lunch.

I played my brother a couple of games of chess this weekend, and he spent the whole time in his Commander Ikari pose. Very intimidating. Oh, and all the NG:E fans; we do find out who shot Kaji, right? Don't tell me who, just if we do find out.

Jenna> Thanks for the addy, and I loved your new fic.

*******Spoilers**********

The bit at the ruined castle, where Goliath walks into the rookery... Damn.

**********End spoilers***************

Christine> I got a fan e-mail describing me as an emerging god of fic, on the level of you and CSH. I had to laugh. :)

Spacebabie>Spark Tests> I'm:
43% bastard, 1% above the worldwide average.
79% on the love scale, w/four wedges of discontent
I should be a millionaire at 42.
I'm supposed to kick at 73 of either cancer or heart disease. Annnnnd...
Sometime in the next nine months I'm supposed to meet my true love in a hotel room. Hmmm, maybe something really interesting happens at either A-kon or the Gathering. If so, I'll tell y'all about it. ;) Assuming I survive that is, since there's apparently a 71% chance of my dying during the act.

Wilek> I'm a protoform?!? (Aaron starts hunting around for big spiders) BTW, was the stuffed penguin joke a reference to Anita Blake?

Stephen> Congrats on becoming an uncle.

ironwolf> I'm sorry about your grandfather. I lost mine about eight years ago, and I still miss him.

Daniel Johnson> Sagacity?!? Humph! (Aaron realizes this reference is lost on everyone who hasn't watched "Trial of a Timelord" *way* too many times, and looks embarassed) Don't worry, it's a joke.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, April 3, 2000 05:45:57 PM
IP: ppp-79.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Doug> Check your mail :)

Welcome Elisagirl.

Skippy> My mother is in the process of rennovation, but since she has decided not to sell the house, I feel less inclined to help her.

Christine> I recall Crzy doesn't like scary movies.

SOROW> Well, you're as pure as I am. What that means exactly I don't know :) ::hugs::

Gside> You're more pure than I am. That's something. Of course, I recall Christien Morgan made a 70% on a purity test. I guess I've now wrecked her image :)

Starsinger> That was touching.

James Birdsong> Was that an April Fool's day joke of yours?

Xena Trek> It's good to see you. ::kisses so passioned that the Catholic schoolgirl scouts sound off a warning sound:: :)

David G and Shadowrdier> Well, the gazeteer series is based on teh game world many of the games were palyed in. One of teh best of these games IMO was Night's Dark Terror which was an epic campaign exploring the wilder regions of Karamiekos. The Gazeteers present a number of lands with similar cultures to medeival Earth, including Turks, Romans, Slavic, French, Scottish, Flemish, and many others.

Caliope> Somehow I'm not surprised by that. My sister will get her liscence first, but the insurance is too much for my mother.

Gunjack> Please post soon. It's folks like you who can help clear some of the troubles in the CR.

Niamhgold> That's more caffeine than even I consume.

Ancestry> I'm Scottish, Irish, German, Danish, French, and Norman. Well, those are the ones on record.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, April 3, 2000 04:10:38 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Um...just excuse that last post, heh. Accident, I swear!

** Niamhgold _officially_ enters, with three large kegs of Coca-Cola **

Today, I am formally making my bid to be the next Energizer Bunny. I didn't sleep more than two hours total this weekend, and I'm still going strong :P Uh...although the sanity's suffering a bit!

Speaking of sanity: Welcome, Elisagirl, and surrender your sanity (Don't worry, you won't notice until you find yourself up with three kegs of soda ]:}

Wilek: (about Bahaumut and geostationary orbit bombing) You make a good point...especially when I'm in this devious little mood. I liked VII a lot (a little bit more than VIII, but not by much). Needless to say, Seph was my fave!

Gside: (About VI). I know, by not getting this game I missed out on a lot (my friend still harrasses me about it). But at the point I'm at momentarily, I can't seem to get up the gumption to start another FF. I might wait until nine; it looks promising since it's going back to medieval!

David G: You make a good point about the Oberon/Goliath parallel. Perhaps it will take Alexander to humble Oberon just as other factors humbled Goliath.

Jenna: Oh, yeah, Thailog's the best! It's gotta be the bad boy appeal, mixed with the potential of future change and conflict. (Oh, and read your fics. They're great! I'd read the first one a while back. When I get off this soda hype (:), I'll try and compose a more in-depth reply!)

Soda, anyone?
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 04:04:44 PM
IP: ncia120n.ncia.net

** Dramatis Personae: Niamhgold
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 03:51:51 PM
IP: ncia120n.ncia.net

suck.

I just glanced in and spotted all the crap that came down in the last week... :P I haven't got tghe time or the heart to post, so I'll just go back to lurking until I can find both.

Warpmind - I just saw your post asking about the rpg (eek!) To be perfectly honest, I haven't checked my email in at least a month, so it may very well be too late...:( Mega-appologies, man. I'm heading over to ho9tmail right now to check my email, and I'll try to get a reply to you as soon as possible... :(
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 03:28:50 PM
IP: nas-49-119.dallas.navipath.net

<Bright Green>

Ancestors:> As far as I know, my family originated in southern Italy, so it is probable that some of my ancestors were Romans. So, my warrior ascendance is the one of the Roman legionaries. Who knows, maybe some ancestor of mine marched through the forests of Gallia along with Caesar himself. Anyway, I think my family's blood in centuries had mixed a lot with others, so my attributes are a mix of typical Italian and others' ones, what I really don't dislike! (Just for example, I'm more cool-minded than the typical Italian is supposed to be.)

Madoc- Evil or not? :> Well, this topic has been covered almost completely. Anyway, I think that someone can be defined really "evil" if he hurts or kills any living (or sentient) being without a real necessity. I mean, if I have a goal to accomplish, I can do it without killing anyone, but I knowingly choose to kill someone in doing it, just because I can, I can be defined evil. On the other side, if I had no choice but killing someone to accomplish my goal, I don't think I can be defined really evil: maybe cynical or unpitiful, but not evil (it is just a theory, of course...). I would also hesitate in defining evil someone who injured or killed because he believed he had no choice. About Oberon...well, I don't think he is really evil. Selfish, insensitive, draconian, untactful, even a bit str****, but not really evil.

Toku Kaioto :><<...One major convention a year in America and one in Europe...>> A convention in Europe? I knew nothing of it! May you please give me a little more details about it? Thanks in advance.

Gside:> No problem. BTW, dont' you like Bright Green? Weird, it is my preferred one for posting. Oh, well, de gustibus non disputandum est.

Green Baron:> I played with the original D&D, but I don't know the Gazetters. What is it about?

Stormy:> <Reads about car troubles> Whoa, your car's sense of humor is quite odd. ;)

Starsinger:> I just read your comment on friends. Well...there's nothing to say, you really said everything about it. In my life, I had a lot of simple friends, but also a handful of real friends. The difference is that real friends have never betrayed me, even as I did my worse mistakes. I always tried to be a real friend to everyone needed it. Sometimes I managed to be.

Elisagirl:> Welcome! :) Oh, by the way...I agree with you about Gargoyles Saga!

Doug:> Storms: Yeah, you're right: storms are dangerous, and so on. The weird thing is, storms give me no particular feelings as they happen in daytime. Also, if they happen at night and I'm already outside, but not with my motorbike (in my car, travelling by train, walking or so) I feel nothing but the danger. It is just the combination storm-night-bike that thrills me. I don't know how to explain that - not in English, at least. I just know that sometimes, not always, just sometimes, I need to go out and feel the storm under my wheels. (a bit delirious, isn't it?)

OK, enough for now, see you all!

" Se la terra è tonda e se il mare è blu
da che mondo è mondo il forte vince e non sei tu"
(Litfiba, "Cangaceiro", 1990)

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, April 3, 2000 02:47:14 PM
IP: h213-3-16.mi.infinito.it

Hey here's something I never noticed before. I got tired of writing my paper for college writing so I put the entire "Awakenings" series that I had taped of the TV and when I was watching I notice something. Hudson does not get his long curved sword until part two. I thought he had it the entire time. Someone else probably already knew that, but I never noticed it before. I just thought that was interesting since some of the pictures in the Dark Ages archive have him with it that's all. I'll return to that awful place we call reality before someone throws something at me.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
hell, tx
Monday, April 3, 2000 02:15:37 PM
IP: spider-th041.proxy.aol.com

Two more things:

$ In the RP below, Simmons and his female counterpart are of course wearing jogging suits, not dark suits. Sorry I forgot to fix that nit. $

Calliope: <things get setteled down again soon, or else whats the point of comming?> <nods> I agree, and that's why I too hope the problems in the CR are fixed soon. I enjoy talking with a lot of people in here too. :) Welcome back!

Really gone now.
Doug
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:39:31 PM
IP: pool-209-138-204-233-dlls.grid.net

Well...the CR has not been very invity lately. Kinnda tense IMO and, I dont know 'bout you guys, but I come online usualy to forget or avoid this type of violent and stresyfing behavior! I hope things get setteled down again soon, or else whats the point of comming? Its too bad cuz there are alot of cool ppl here wich I enjoy talking too...Well! let me get on with my post! :)
Warpmind><<Now, why would I be wantin' to steal a big, noisy, expensive, polluting piece of metal, leather
and plastic, eh? :)>> LOL Hey, I wont be questioning your motives! :P

Aaron> Animated mini Goddess show!!!...*note to self: Maruchan noodle girl...(cuz thats what I call myself :P) Gotta have another Animathon all nighter....soon!...* And "a million Chibi-Urds running around"...gawd, that reminds me to much of the Naga clones...at least Urd doesnt have the annoying laugh :P Thanx for the info!

Green Baron> <<My parents refused to teach me, but pressured me to drive. >> Ah, yes, I understand too perfectly, arent the special! :P The crel part is, my dad is quite eager to teach his son how to drive, but never concidered teaching me. Sexist much? Naw! :P

Katara> Bunnies!!?!?!? Where!?!?!? *pulls out her piezooka 2000*...Oh! Just Dust Bunnies, good! :P

Gside> Ah, yes, the bunny thing was fun :P Can you belive we still keep that RP going through email since we couldnt at the CR anymore :P Its still as bizzar as it started! :P By the way, what do you mean by "the vanilla CR" ?

Well, gotta get! See ya all!! *HUGZ* * ^_~ *
Caliope
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:35:55 PM
IP: 136.145.83.183

**RP HERE**

Kitainia and Stephanie rush into the Nielsen office just in time to find Asil pointing her reloaded BFG at them. Kit dodges the ensuing blast, but Stephanie screams as she takes it full force and falls over stunned (due to her immortality, she's not dead). Asil chuckles and swings the gun around to aim at Kit who is glaring angrily at her. "What's the matter, sister?" her evil clone laughs. "Too scared to face me? Do you finally know you're too weak?" "On the contrary," Kit rolls her eyes. "Just gotta do something about that weapon of yours first." She whips out her rocket launcher and fires before Asil can react, knocking her adversary back against the wall. Asil slides off it and hits the floor, then leaps up, anger flowing from her body along with blood. She discards the blasted remnants of her BFG and roars, then leaps at Kit without a word. Kit is ready and soon they are rolling about on the floor, punching and scratching at one another with claws and fists. Stephanie gasps and gets up in the middle of it, shaking her head as she draws her sword and looks for a way to run in and help her sister. Not finding one, she resorts to cheering Kit on. "You're next!" Asil yells at her, as Kit knocks out several of her teeth with a well-aimed kick to the chin. Then, before Asil can leap back on her with savage fury, Kit grabs her evil clone by the arms and throws her into a plate glass window on the other side of the room. Asil tries to extend her wings and bounce off it but the window breaks first and she tumbles head over heels outside, screaming in rage the whole way. This causes Doug, Keith, Gubio, and Erin to rush in and see if they're needed, and they smile in relief when they see Kit aiming her rocket launcher at Asil as her evil clone tries to get up off the ground. "You don't really want to kill her, do you?" Doug gasps as he sees the action. Kit shrugs. "Not immediately." She then fires the rocket and hits the ground next to Asil, causing another explosion that damages her adversary. "Come on," Kit says, stowing her weapon and climbing out the window, "let's see if she can tell us where to find Thailog." The others nod and follow her, all jumping out the window onto the lawn about five feet below (we never did get off the Nielsen Building's first floor). "Careful, people," Doug says as they fan out and ready weapons. "Asil is very dangerous." "But she's stunned!" Stephanie protests. "Yeah," Keith agrees, "but we don't know how long she will be. Let's ger her rounded up fast." They all nod and begin approaching Asil as the screen's image fades.

**WILL CONTINUE RP AT END OF POST**

Hi. Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Lots of things have been going on in my life. Chief among them are a new round of post-Spring Break exams that will continue until well into next week <sigh>, and the fact that I haven't exactly been feeling too good lately. I do feel better today, but I still have a headache and feel very tired as well. Even a whole weekend of mostly rest did little to dispel it, I don't know what's wrong with me but I hope it ends soon. It's been keeping me from both the CR and my writing (block has also caused problems with the latter) for several days now. Don't know when I'll be able to catch up on Night of the Symbiotes (which I'm still bringing in characters in, at 44 pages and counting since there's so many who will be attending the wedding and then participating in the great battle afterwards. Ah, the pleasures of having a cast of thousands.:) but I'll try to get caught up on the CR today. <readies self>

Niamhgold: Sorry I didn't say so before, but I too hope your frostbite is nothing serious. I nearly lost a toe to frostbite once, and it is not fun. :( Good luck getting over your related problems.

Happy Early Birthday Stephen, congrats on the niece, and welcome back! Happy Belated Birthday to Christine and Anne. Christine, I too send my prayers to your mother. Hope she is soon able to get over her cancer. If the chemotherapy helps, it should be worth all the pain that will come with. :(

Storms: We've had a few of them around here lately, and I have enjoyed them. They help me sleep, and for some reason I've needed to do that a lot recently. Maybe it's something to do with daylight savings time, I don't know. Just hope the need ends soon. :) I too do not like to be out in storms, since they can be dangerous (it's not just the lightning, it's also the puddles you can slip in and the water ruining your books, etc), but enjoying them inside is just fine.

Evil: This topic's been fully covered already, I think, but if anyone cares what my opinion is on it, I agree with the people who say true evil begins when you start to enjoy hurting other people. Not just forget about their lives as you pursue your goal (like Oberon in the Gathering with his sleep spell), but try to actively harm and kill them in pursuit of that goal (Madoc in The Darkest Hour). And of course if your goal is not one that benefits others from most perspectives (like Madoc's was), that makes your actions evil entirely. I agree that Madoc can justify his actions, all villains can in one way or another, but that doesn't change things; they're still based on ignorance, arrogance, hatred, anger, and fear- that makes them evil. His selfish lust for power is also evil, whether it follows the fay's manifest destiny or not (a lot of the things America has done for her "manifest destiny" are also evil from this perspective, I acknowledge that. I've also always seen them that way.:). Oberon may share a lot of Madoc's qualities and therefore be also evil in many ways, but at least he doesn't actively try to harm and conquer the rest of us in following through with his selfish motives. He also has the potential to change (or at least I've always gotten that from the series) and a possible counterinfluence on him (Titania). Madoc has neither, nor do I think him the type to tolerate them. Neither were most of his allies (or are, in the case of those still around). Thank goodness they're not much of a problem for the world anymore (at least for now :). As for evil itself, I agree with Daniel and Kaioto that actions are more evil than people. Of course, the motivations behind the actions can often be very evil as well. :( Thailog is also definitely evil IMO, for all the reasons SJ said.

SOROW: Yep, that is too often the leader's burden. <sigh> But you're doing a good job bearing it so far IMO. Keep up the good work, and I'll be cheering for you in your tryouts. Congrats on surviving the tornado to you and Joe both.

Joe, Airwalker, Ironwolf: Welcome back! And good luck in your continuing school hassles (hoping for same in mine).

CR Troubles: You all know my feelings on this from last week, I don't like the arguments that have cropped up over them and their effects on the CR. However I also agree with Scott, SJ, Mecord, and Jenna that we should not forget the problems of flaming, labeling, animosity, etc. that led to those arguments, nor (of course) our absent friends. I don't intend to forget either, even though I don't know how we're going to solve the problems. I do think a return to civilty and a dropping of all flames and arguments is a good first step, and that was the main point of my long comment last week about why we should stop yelling at each other about this. What to do next I'm not sure, but no one should think I'm trying to just push aside the problems in this room. I know they existed, and probably many of them still do. :( Hope someone wiser than I can figure out a lasting solution for them (and also get back our friends).

**TIMEDANCER SPOILERS AHOY!**

Tale of Two Gates: Good job on this, Todd and all who worked on it. I liked the pic and the idea of the lutin, he and his race were rather interesting as gargoyle offshoots. They almost look human, I can't help but wonder if future evolution has caused them to walk among us. It would make sense, given what they planned to do at the end of the story, humans' possible reactions to lutins, etc. :) Enjoyed this episode's plot too, and how it brought in the legends. This ep had the sense of history in it A Merrier Hour lacked, and Todd should be glad to know I was motivated to catch up on my Charlegmane after reading. :) Only thing I missed in the ep was character development. Brooklyn didn't get any really (he should have, I hope he's not going to go back to just drifting through history without letting it affect him again), nor did the supporting characters (all of whom I liked, but would have liked more if they'd been developed enough to stick in my mind). This made the story linear and predictable, and thus a little less enjoyable in my opinion. <sigh> I hope the Timedancer stories bring character development back soon and fix this trend, I will be waiting for it. :)

**SPOILERS HAVE PASSED**

GreenBaron: Joyride your mother, huh? Well, we've all wanted to do that at one time or another, I think. :) Hope she gets off your case soon (for your well-being as well as my feedback :). Thanks again for the forgiveness on my dragon comments from past CR days. I like the alignment system also, and like Kit said I'm probably neutral good.

SJ: <grins> Well, glad I could make you feel envious then, man. Heh. Your cyborg names are pretty cool too, by the way. :) Just so you know, Kit and I managed to see Romeo Must Die a couple nights ago. You were right, it was an excellent movie. Felt a little cliched and convoluted at first, but then it quickly got better as the plot and characters were fleshed out. Liked the fights also (the bone effects were pretty cool, as were the martial arts moves that led up to them), and the acting. Overall a very nice film. It's been a long time since I've been able to laugh, smile, nod, cheer, growl in anger, and clap so much in one sitting before a movie. Hope the next time is not far off. (Favorite Part- "Listen, meatball, you have one choice. Let me go and I will let you live." Hahahaha!)

James Birdsong: <mutters> Talk about a weird fanfic idea. I'm sorry to say I hope no one ever carries it out. (But talk about it more if you want, whatever gets you to make more comments than just "I read X.")

Kaioto: That Iron Chef show actually shows like a good cooking show, and I don't usually like to watch cooking. Thanks for recommending it, friend, hope I can someday check it out. :) I also agree with you about the problems in the CR (which I'm willing to do whatever is necessary to fix, if I only knew what actions I should take beyond what Mecord suggested and I'm doing now).

Lineage: For me, it's Scottish and English. Just like two of our favorite clans. :) I also have more than a little German, Swedish, Swiss, Italian, and Cherokee blood in me according to Mom. Don't know if she's right about all of it, but I have found evidence of traits passed down through each blood in me (hedonism from the Swedish, temper from the German, righteous anger from the Scot, creativity from the Italian, endurance from the Cherokee, etc.) and am of course proud of it all. :)

Theresa: Good comments on friends. Welcome back to you as well. :)

I guess that's about all I had to catch up on for now. I'll go off to school now, try to get caught up there. And I'll try to get caught up on my fanfic as well this evening. Hope whatever's been making me so tired lately will allow me to. <sighs> Stay cool, everyone, and don't forget there'll be some new Buffy and Angel eps on tomorrow (finally!). Also, in the words of Bill and Ted, let's be excellent to each other and party on, dude! (ie no more flames :) Bye!

**RP RESUMES, EXCUSE LENGTH**

Asil gets up groggily to see the Ravens rushing her and curses, trying to draw her Desert Eagle. Gubio shoots her in the hand just as she pulls the pistol out, forcing her to drop it with a scream of painful rage. "Okay, you insane evil <bleep>!" Stephanie commands as the six Ravens all aim their weapons at Asil. "Surrender!" "Yes," Erin nods. "I may not be totally familiar with all the things you've tried to do to people, but you are evil and therefore shall suffer if you do not..." "She gets the idea, Erin," Keith says, looking at Asil with tack stars ready. Asil glares at him, then turns to Kit and Doug. "You fools aren't going to kill me? I've done enough to you, haven't I?" "Yeah," Doug says, "but we're not gonna kill you just yet." "Right," Kit agrees. "First we have some questions. Like, where's Thailog's secret base?" Asil chuckles and glares at them. "And what makes you think I'm going to tell you? I'm dead even if I do." The Ravens grimace and look at each other, knowing she's right. Suddenly, before they can do anything else, a clap of thunder draws all their attention. They turn and gasp, seeing a dark-robed figure appear before them. "Ah, some of my adversaries!" Dahak chuckles. "Take this!" He raises his hands and throws magical beams of force at the Ravens, who are all hit and knocked down. "Not me, idiot!" Asil screams as she is as well. She then rolls out of the line of fire as Dahak launches another series of spell-blasts and Kit dives after her as the others start shooting back. "Who is this guy?" Erin asks. "An evil genie or wizard?" "Something like that!" Gubio replies. "Just get him!" She nods, and then keeps firing at Dahak along with everyone. Their shots keep the evil fay off-balance but do him little harm. "Where's Lathrop?" Doug wonders.

Meanwhile beside them, Kit tackles Asil again and is about to resume hitting her evil clone's maniacally glaring face (to knock her out) when a hand grabs her by the hair and throws her aside. "Good move U.W.!" a short longhaired man in a dark green suit claps as the wrestler known as the Ultimate Warrior grabs the shocked Kit in a full Nelson and laughs at her. A man and woman in dark suits (Richard Simmons and his female counterpart, can't remember her name) run to Asil's sides and pick her up by her arms. "You're coming with us, babe!" Simmons snaps, knocking her out with a stun wand. "Mr. Turner wants to see you." "Right," his female clone nods, poking Asil in the stomach. "We'll have to burn a lot of your body off before you see him so you'll look better, hah!" "Good luck stopping her insanity," the longhaired man frowns at them. Kit looks at him from where the Ultimate Warrior holds her and gasps. "Hey, you're Geoffrey Fieger! I thought you were dead!" Fieger shrugs. "I got better. Which is more than I can say for you. Kill her, U.W.!" He makes a scything motion with his hand and then jogs off chuckling, followed by the two exercise freaks, who are now carrying the unconscious Asil. They all pile into a nearby limo, which drives off at high speed. The Ultimate Warrior remains behind and chuckles at Kit as he throws her down and then readies himself for a body slam. "Misplace your brains?" Kit asks, confusing him just before she draws her Beretta and blows his head off. The half-garg gets back up as the dead wrestler falls over to see Doug and the others running towards her. "What happened to Dahak?" she asks as they come to a stop. "I got lucky with a thrown iron shuriken and he teleported away," Keith answers. He looks down at the dead wrestler and grimaces. "Who's that?" "And are you okay?" Doug asks. "And where's Asil?" inquires Stephanie. "Well..." Kit begins to answer, but before she can say anymore, the Ravens hear guns cocking all around them. "Put your hands up!" a voice commands them. "Police!"

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:35:09 PM
IP: pool-209-138-204-233-dlls.grid.net

Green Baron> Yep. I've played Basic D&D. My cousins introduced me to it when I was around 10 years old. (Way too long ago for my taste).

Jenna> I can pretty well accept that viewpoint. I see good and evil as a sort of continuium (sp?) with total saints on one side and utter monsters on the other. Most people fall somewhere in the middle. Madoc is way out on the evil side, with few redeming features. In my opinion, Oberion is just on the evil side of the middle, with a few glaring flaws that outweigh some good qualities.

I also believe people can change. For Oberon it would be relativly easy. I think that his main flaw is that he's blinded by his own power and athourity, and that if he saw the truth more clearly, he would become a better person. For Madoc it would be really hard to change (especially now that he's dead...) He would have to change his whole way of thinking and put away centuries of hatred.

Demona's kind of the same way, on a more "human" scale, by the way. For that matter, Goliath makes a good parallell for Oberon. In the early part of the series, he was kind of autocratic and reactionary, and his refusal to acknowledge certain things led him to make harmful mistakes. Later on, he started to see more clearly, so he started listening to his clanmates more, and working with the system somewhat instead of just striking out on his own.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, April 3, 2000 09:53:06 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Jannie: >Re: Thanks so very much for all of your help :) >> You're very welcome, I do however need your address again so that I can send the resturant booklets I've obtained. << Re: Comic Shops >> As far as I can tell there isn't any near the hotel, there is one or two on Orange Blossom Trail, I will need to check the area out, cuz there is one part of OBT that I don't recommend anyone to hang out. And I think there is one on I-Drive (International), I will get back to you on that one. << Re: Malls >> What is your definition of a mall? The Florida Mall is about 6 miles from the hotel, thats the "mall, mall ie: JC Penney's, Sears, etc". There are litterally tons of 'small shops" on I-Drive, cheap ones, expensive ones, medium ones, decent ones and yes, even crappy ones. At the south end of I-Drive there is an area called "Pointe Orlando"... with movie theatres, bar/grills (resturaunts) and *very* expensive shops. On the north end of I-Drive there is about 3 'complexes' of outlet malls. You do need to be carefull about what you think are the best deals. Some clothing and items in the outlet malls are more expensive than the ones at the regular shops. If you want shorts/pants for a relatively 'good' price... I am open to taking you and anyone else to the one outlet shops in Lake Buena Vista. One of the booklets I sent you should have malls/shops etc listed in it, I think its the Orientation zine. Sandlake Rd/I-Drive is (I think) just about 1 mile south of Universal. If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask.

Coyote: >> I'm going to try to check out "Sci-Fi City" this week, its suppose to be a bigger version of the Sci-Fi shop in Berkley. Will let you know how it is.

GB: >> *hugs and kisses*

Firestorm: >> Are you still posting? Just curious, I haven't seen you post recently.

Gotta run.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, April 3, 2000 08:37:58 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

I'd like to share some thoughts as a new participant in the fandom who is also an old fan.

I've watched Gargoyles from the beginning and enjoyed it immensely; it captured my attention better than any other show. It also fired my imagination in interesting ways. Too bad I have no creative ability. But, what really changed everything was my discovery of the GFW (back in the castle.net days) and its growing archive of fanfic. That's what really pushed my over the edge. Then there was the S8 comment room, TGS, Ask Greg, all of the individual fan sites, etc.

I've had a lot of fun watching it all, but I never participated. Participation has never been easy for me. It's actually a small miracle that I finally did start posting here, and a good indication of how much I care about Gargoyles and the fandom. It may sound sappy, but I've grown to care about the people here. The recent flame war and resulting turmoil really upset me. So I lost what little sanity I had left, and started posting. :)

I've lurked long enough; I want to give something back, but I'm not sure how. I'd like to volunteer for something, but I'm not so good at coming up with ideas. So there we are: indisputable proof that I'm out of my mind. Questions? Comments? Jokes? Chocolate cake? Mmmm chocolate cake...

And thanks for being so accepting of a stranger: I already feel at home here. Oh, and I'll probably post more later: I rarely say everything right the first time. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, April 3, 2000 07:31:16 AM
IP: ppp-22.rb5.exit109.com

two topics...the latter may not be your cup'a tea {cup of tea}.

Gside: actually, the ‘other-wise’ was a reference to Other, which is an arbitrary {to a point} classification for That Which Is Different, aka, Alien To Us. the Quarrymen consider Gargoyles to be Other.

...wonder what they’d think of a Sileni. :)

Teaching Hatchlings To Fly: << <<somebody (I forget whom) suggested that there's always the possibility of just pushing them off the wall so that they have to glide.>> :O ACK... o_o' I wonder how the adults would react the first time a hatchling died of that (which would be inevitable IMHO). <SHUDDER> >>

Unpleasant as it sounds, that’s more a method that would be employed by a High-K species {in my opinion, at least}. a Low-K species {if i remember correctly} ios like humans, elephants, and condors: produces few offspring, with a number of years between each birth; these populations take many years to recover from overhunting {like with pandas}. High-K species are more like rabbits, guppies, and flies: produce large number of offspring frequently; these populations quickly recover from overhunting {unless factors like inbreeding take over}.

which would Gargoyles be? the 10-years-to-hatching {sounds like a title, don’t it? :) would be more on the High-K side.....but could that be counteracted by producing more than one or two eggs at each laying.

when the Trio was banished to the Hatchery, i could’ve sworn i saw a whole _LOT_ of eggs.....definately more than one egg for each clan member. possible meanings: either they have a lot of mating flights {every year that they aren’t pregnant}, or they lay more than one or two eggs at a time.

side thought: maybe some gargoyles produce more eggs than others. example: maybe some, like Brooklyn and Bronx, are phenotypes which produce more eggs than, say, Goliath or Lexington. however, the more anthropomorphic features of the latter would prove a survival advantage when it comes to living with humans.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 06:45:50 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

A little thing that came through on one of my knitting lists. No author or I'd give credit.

A simple friend has never seen you cry.
A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names. A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book. A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party. A real friend comes early to help you cook and clean. A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed. A real friend asks you why you took so long to call. A simple friend seeks to talk with you about their problems. A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. A simple friend wonders about your romantic history. A real friend could blackmail you with it. A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself. A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an - argument.
A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight.
A simple friend expects you to always be there for them. A real friend expects to always be there for you! A simple friend will read and throw this letter away. A real friend will keep sending it until he's sure it's been received.

Starsinger
Monday, April 3, 2000 06:18:24 AM
IP: proxy-682.public.rwc.webtv.net

Top ten...thousand...

Warpmind> <<Hey, it's not so complex; shooting blank CDs is a waste. Shooting at Windows CDs makes it okay. Justification. ;)>> Eh? <lightbulb> Ohh, I get it now; this has to do with the Bash Microsoft trend. ;D (The guy who writes User Friendly would start carrying holy water and a cross, or perhaps a stuffed penguin, if he ever met me.) ^_^

Ironwolf> Our sincerest condolences on the loss of your grandfather. :`(

Demona May and Anne> Happy birthday! :)

Patrick Toman> <<At least no one's tried to pull what would probably be the meanest April Fools joke in any of the CRs, and post that Disney is putting Gargoyles back on the air... though I think someone DID do that a year or two ago.>> Believe it or not, it was Roy Sato himself, an animator for the series. <sigh> Getting people's hopes up like that, simply to send them crashing against the rocks...Much better IMHO to inspire dread and confusion in reasonable amounts, like Aris' masterful jest this year did (I'm going to enjoy watching the aftermath of that one). >;)

Stormy> Evil car> <shudder> Ever think of having it exorcised?

Todd> <<somebody (I forget whom) suggested that there's always the possibility of just pushing them off the wall so that they have to glide.>> :O ACK... o_o' I wonder how the adults would react the first time a hatchling died of that (which would be inevitable IMHO). <SHUDDER>

Niamhgold> <<Bauhamut's name tends to pop up here and there.>> The best was in VII; nothing like bombing the bad guys from geostationary orbit. >:)

Gside> <<So where did Piette come from?>> <blink> Who? <> I think my favorite is Sabin. The guy looks just like me, blue shirt and all. It's surreal. Makes me want to take martial arts classes. ;P

Elisagirl> Welcome! Surrender your sanity with whoever's wielding the sanity sucker right at this moment, please. :)

Skippy> <<the house we'll be moving into is a twenty year old renthouse that's been utterly ruined by a string of white trash renters who listen to Jeff Foxworthy for advice on IMPROVING their lifestyle. The place has been stripped of all sheetrock and was left like that for at least two years. It's god awful and we have only a few weekends to work on it to getit somewhat liveable. Yikes!>> AAACCCKKK...<holds Mr. Disconnect over a large meat grinder> Is there any way we can place the blame on this mook?

Stephen> Happy birthday, soon, to you as well, although sorry to hear it'll be less enjoyable than you'd like. :/
Wilek Nereus
Monday, April 3, 2000 04:11:36 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Tests:
Love rating- 77% love 23% lust. I guess that's good.

Death-Nov. 9th 2064 85 years old and a 30% at cancer. I can beat that.

Purity-75% pure, about 84% of the population is less pure. Yeah right.

Wealth- I'll make a million by the time I'm 35. Most of it comes from working 9 to 5. sure.

Happy B-day Anne

See ya later!
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Monday, April 3, 2000 03:31:24 AM
IP: cache1.avtel.net

White (as in half a Holstein)

Warpmind> <<no need for such exaggerated apologies>>: You're probably right on the exaggerated part, but judging by your reaction, I did feel that I had offended or insulted you somehow so an apology was necessary. Looking back now (and probably a little then too), I'm pretty sure I overdid it for effect, and that the first sentence was pretty much all that was necessary.
<<Especially if you haven't read my entire series>>: I hate to admit it (in light of my misunderstanding), but I have (excluding the most recent one).

Bon aniversaire a` Anne.

Spark tests: I will get $10^6 one year shy of the Answer, am less illegitamate than 96% of the population, have 10 months to find a woman and a motel room, have a 71% chance of dying en coitus, will die in late 20053 from cancer (37%), and am more pure than 97% of the population.

Whoh, a non-green Toku Kai.

Rodlox> <<I'M IN...TOP TEN OR OTHER-WISE>>: "As the strolling singer in Rockafeller Center says, 'Some men are wise... some are otherwise.'" (source: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~tfarrell/)

Mecord> <<Don’t short change yourself. No author would survive without a reader>>: You missed my second exception (and its parenthetical expression).
<<As for creativity, if you put your mind to it, you would probably surprise yourself>>: I'm an engineer, I don't need to asy anything else.

The Revered Mrs. Morgan> <<we would have all preferred that they'd kept the Bald Mtn. segment>>: Hoo yah! Mussorgsky deserves the right not to be modest. (his first name actually was Modest; and it is very sad that I knew that, that he wrote it, and that I could spell his name without looking it up)

SOROW> <<Wish me luck>>: Good luck.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Monday, April 3, 2000 02:38:21 AM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

Greetings all..

Well, there's no way to say this without it sounding a little tacky, but here goes... this coming April 10th is to be my 31st birthday, and I wanted to let everyone know ahead of time because this year it's going to be a bit sucky for me. Because of the recent move to the new apartment, funds are running dry, so the missus has told me I'm not going to be able to do or get some of the things I want this year. So, I'm putting out this request to all of my friends here in the CRs...if you can draw, send me a pic to lift my spirit. If you can write, drop me a line in my email box to make me laugh and forget about getting older (or not, depending on your POV, <grin>). In short, please make this big ol' bear smile again, k?

Now, onto brighter news! I just got a letter from my mother, concerning my sister's impending bundle of joy coming in July...they just made a visit to the doctor, and he's 80 percent sure it's going to be a girl! The family is so thrilled! They've decided the name will be Amanda Marie...it's great! I'm going to be an Uncle! If anyone wants to help me congradulate my sis and her hubby, you can also send a nute by my email adress as well.

Will be talking to everyone later! Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, April 3, 2000 01:35:00 AM
IP: m63.ieway.com

BTW- here is a link for this years Gathering- I have been talking to Jubes about it extensively- and so far, this sounds like it is going to be the biggest and best one ever!!!
jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:54:26 AM
IP: 1cust172.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Hey all. I'm sorry that I haven't posted in a while. I've just been busy. Well, I think I did really well on this Precal test that I was so worried about.(I was failing precal with a 49, and I've never failed a class.)I also got to spend some time with my pregnant friend. It was really great being with her. Lastly, I had a great time with SOROW at ther drill team banquet today. She was very beautiful(like she always is), and I felt proud as she gave a very articulate speech to the crowd. She is also under alot of stress right now, and will be for the next two weeks, so I'd like to ask that all of you will keep her in your prayers.

SOROW: I know that we're not going to have much time for eachother for the next couple weeks, but I want you to know that I will constantly be thinking of you (and waiting for you) because you're well worth it. I love you Allison!
Joe Boxer - [jboxer82@hotmail.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:53:54 AM
IP: spider-tp051.proxy.aol.com

First and formost--

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANNE ^__^

Trip was fun- we didn't get to go camping, but got the chance to visit family. I'm tired so I won't go into full comments..

I gotta agree with Scott and SJ. I can't forget what happened- those who left were my friends, and I just can't shrug and forget..

As for fandom dying- well I don't see it that way. I think there is always a need for new blood and new ideas- that is what makes it grow. But one thing also is that instead of inspiring fear, I think this should inspire action. If we are afraid to see this series drift into the phantoms of memory- then it is up to us to perserve it and make it grow- to write, to draw, ect. so they can "live again" through us.

That direct effect is what I like about gargoyle fandom- we have close contact with it's creator, and that is unheard of any where else. But also it feels that we have more impact- for whatever reason. So if we don't want the fandom to die- then its ALL DOWN TO US. I like that feeling.

On the subject of evil- well there is more than good/evil- there is ammoral- being neither one nor the other and largely concerned only with the self. I think Xanatos and Thailog fall right into this catagory rather than being truely "evil". I tend to reserve that catagory for people who seek out to intentionally harm- not do so as a means to an end.

I like Thailog. I can't say I really know why- but I like 'im. I like his conflicts and think he's a pretty interesting gargoyle.

jenna
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:46:39 AM
IP: 1cust172.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Hey all. I have so much to do tonight so I'll make it quick. I still haven't read all of the new TD ep yet, but I will.

Purity Test> 79% pure! That's an amazing feat for the CR Paddle Woman :) I'll take the other tests later.

Kit> My wrist is doing pretty good. It's finally turning into a scar. But I accidentally stabbed my finger with a pair of scissors yesterday (no, I'm not clumsy) and that hurts more right now. As far as the Gatherings, it just makes me sad that one was in my own town but I still couldn't go. *sigh*

GB> I love you anyway.

My spring show and banquet went really well and this week is drill team tryouts. Wish me luck. I'm sooooooo stressed out right now.
SOROW
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:28:00 AM
IP: dll2a020-1088.splitrock.net

The weekend fun continues! We went to the Seattle Center today and saw Fantasia, finally. Agreed that while Mickey is the big public favorite and all, we would have all preferred that they'd kept the Bald Mtn. segment ; ) All in all, it was enjoyable (well, Tim fell asleep but we can't take him anywhere). I think we all liked the final segment best with the sprite. And geez, I'm sitting there _knowing_ the monster's eyes are going to snap open, so I'm watching Becca to make sure she doesn't get too scared, and on the other side of me, Crzy about leapt out of her seat and took ten years off my life! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, April 3, 2000 12:25:38 AM
IP: 10-098.009.popsite.net

13th i think... ah, lucky 13 =)
Gargress - [gargress@yahoo.com]
Sunday, April 2, 2000 11:19:30 PM
IP: 216-53-141ppp226.mpinet.net

It's been aninteresting weekend for me. I'veknown for several weeks my family is planning a move sometime in May and we are trying to get our new/old residence prepared.

The problem is, the house we'll be moving into is a twenty year old renthouse that's been utterly ruined by a string of white trash renters who listen to Jeff Foxworthy for advice on IMPROVING their lifestyle. The place has been stripped of all sheetrock and was left like that for at least two years. It's god awful and we have only a few weekends to work on it to getit somewhat liveable. Yikes!

Despite the house work, I did find time to head up to Bedford and catch the Rocky Horror Picture Show: And an even bigger YIKES! It was the annual April Fool's Drag Show. The men played the women's parts and vice versa. What was truly frightening was the 400 pound guy that did the part of Janet. The sight of him in that mu-mu was bad enough but ,during the floorshow part, watching him in a bustier,pantyhose and a thong was an emotionally scarring moment even for a Klingon. As long as Ican flashback to that memory,I doubt I shall ever need to take a cold shower ever again....

Well, getting my brain out of the gutter, I do have something Gargoyles related to talk about. I've got a piece of fanfic I'm working on and I'm looking for someone to proof me before I post. Can anyone help? Contact me off the board if you'd like to help...
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Sunday, April 2, 2000 11:04:52 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-39.ultravision.net

**Mecord runs in with a Sloppy Joes sandwich in one hand**

RATS!! Just missed the top ten. Ah well.

Here's a few responses.

Gside>> < As one of the newer residents here, I feel I can do nothing to aid the strenghtening of the fandom,> Don’t short change yourself. No author would survive without a reader. No roof would stand without support. People like you are just as important to the fandom as anyone else. As for creativity, if you put your mind to it, you would probably surprise yourself.

SJ>> My lineage is roughly 50% Scottish and 50% Danish. The Danes were Norse settlements. The Scottish folk were also known to have intermingled with Viking blood. According to some theories it was this intermingling that gave Scottland its redheads (don’t know how true that is). Yes I had Viking ancestors. My original reference to berserkers was in reference to my temper as well as my lineage. In my youth I was the quiet one everyone said to watch out for. I was quiet because most of the time I was trying to keep my temper in check. Vikings often looked for that quality and nurtured it into the berserker rage. I think they believed it some sort of gift from a god? I said that if I lived in the time of my Viking ancestors, I would probably have been a beserker. It still gets me into trouble now and then. Lost my temper on the basketball court about a year ago and punched the padded wall underneath the basket. I broke my hand in two or three places.

Fandom>> Interesting points. I agree with Scott and SJ that we should not forget what happened. It is only when we forget history that we are doomed to repeat it. As far as solutions to the problems presented; I’m open to suggestions. Though I’m still a little unclear as to some of the problems at issue here. As far as flamwars go, I don’t think there’s any way to avoid them. The trick is dealing with them when they happen. They shouldn’t be allowed to get out of control which I think is the concern with recent events. Now the CR does have rules (of which we have been reminded), but ultimately the responsibility is ours. I don’t know of any one solution to remedy this and I think Scott was right in bringing it up for discussion.
My personal method is; first of all, don’t get offended. Second, if attacked, don’t respond in kind. Also remember that in text, it is hard to get a sense of the emotion behind the words. If joking, make sure the other party knows it. Nowadays I’m really hard to offend (unless I’m playing basketball). If someone does offend me, or make me angry, I will let them know by telling them in a few words how they made me feel. I’ve never had to try it in text but in real life that seems to be the most civil response. This seems to work for me, but I’m not the perfect model by a long shot.
Cliques are a different matter. I may just be naïve, but I didn’t know there were any in here. I certainly don’t lay claim to any. I suppose the TGS CR could be considered a clique in the fandom. But the people in this room certainly don’t ban other groups or show other kinds of behavior normally associated with cliques. Many of you in this room also frequent other rooms. I don’t because I only have enough time to keep up with one CR. Um… now I think I’m just rambling so I’ll shut up on this subject for now. But I would like to hear from more people on this subject.

*****WARNING RP*****
On the Avatar Mecord, Bardic, Archwolf, and Warfrost are finally allowed to leave after a vicious round of questioning.
“I can’t believe it,” Mec glares at Bardic, “You led us to a twin!”
“Hey, it was an honest mistake, could have happened to anyone.”
Warfrost growled. Archwolf nodded in agreement, “Yes, at least we know who this sorcerer is now.”
Mec scratches his chin, “So how do we find him?”
“Your dragon friend here?”
Bardic sighed, “He’s masked his presence from me now. His magic is just too powerful for me to break through.”
Mecord caught notice of a ten year old girl darting across the hall.
“Archwolf, I’m afraid your going to have to continue this search without us for a while. We have some unfinished business of our own we need to take of.”
They exchanged good-byes and parted ways. Mecord and Bardic followed the magic trail left for them. The entered a private chamber where Lloky waited for them. Lloky, in the form of a ten year old girl, returned the scroll to Mecord. Mecord broke the seal and read the message.
”Looks like we’ve just been enlisted to help stop Armageddon.”
“And just how are we supposed to do that?” Bardic asked.
“I heard they defeated the Quencher. Perhaps a little reconnaissance is in order; Thieves Guild style. Lloky, gather the others.”
*****END RP*****

'Till tomorow.

Mecord
Sunday, April 2, 2000 10:02:54 PM
IP: usr36.mtwest.net

10th
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:51:34 PM
IP: gside.dorm.rutgers.edu

*runs in* Yeah! we're top something! :)
Jannie and Denis
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:48:16 PM
IP: 216-90-185-198.hou.port.mytelco.com

I'M IN...TOP TEN OR OTHER-WISE.

Rodlox
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:45:57 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Top 10! And...What the heck is going on here?
Blue Caeru
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:43:35 PM
IP: spider-tk012.proxy.aol.com

Top Ten!
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:43:29 PM
IP: ppp-229-139.usc.edu

FIFTH!!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:42:50 PM
IP: 141.164.77.60

I'm changing my color ... green's crowded.
Toku Kaioto
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:39:18 PM
IP: 141.133.151.90

Whoa... early wipe.

Number three... and yes, that's my final answer! :P
Patrick Toman
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:38:56 PM
IP: 98ad350a.ipt.aol.com

2nd!!!!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:35:54 PM
IP: dialin-921-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

TOP TEN!!

Stormy: Let's make it a drag race then ... Wagner's '41 Mercedes against Bluestone's '79 Cadillac with performance mods. May the best luxo-V8 sedan win. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, April 2, 2000 09:32:28 PM
IP: zzz-209252248172.splitrock.net