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Entity > Every trip through time may be a time loop, but not all time loops are paradoxes. I'd sure say becoming one of your own ancestors _is_ a time paradox - a causality loop and genetic mobius strip, with no discernable beginning or end. If Brooklyn is his own great-to-the-hundredth power grandfather, where did that part of his DNA come from?

The only answer I can think of must be "the same place the reading glasses McCoy gave to Captain Kirk came from." The infinite cosmic void of spacetime.

Patrick Toman
Sunday, May 21, 2000 09:32:55 PM
IP: 98acf8a9.ipt.aol.com

DPH> I don't think it would be a good idea to buy the new processor when it first comes out, but as for buying a pre-existing one after a new one hits... I wager that would work to your benefit, as the prices would drop on older models, no?

(P.S. Don't overestimate processor speed. In my experience, there is no such thing as a processor that is "fast enough." RAM you can get enough of, hard drive space you can get enough of, but hardly ever processor speed.)

***NOR IRON BARS***

Titania> Two things to remember. First, looking strictly at the series, the only indication we have of Titania's supposed old personality was from Oberon. And we know that a character saying something doesn't make it law. If we can't trust what Goliath has said in the past, as evidenced by Greg, then we certainly can't expect to trust Oberon.

The other possibility, or perhaps the other side of it, is what Cassandra hits on. If Titania became benevolent towards humans during the thousand-year exhile, when and why did she first become disdainful of them...?

Going back in time to kill grandpa> Come now. You can say that Brooklyn and Pandora starting the gargoyle race doesn't work for this reason or that, but you can't claim a paradox as one such reason. After all, we know that in the Gargoyles Universe, time is immutable, and so every travel through time is a time loop. You can't travel through time except through a time loop.

Daniel Johnson> Those paragraph breaks aren't the result of mis-editing. They bug me too, but they seem to pop out of nowhere. They must have to do with the HTMLizing process.

An extra tidbit> There's an interesting history to "Nor Iron Bars," including an entirely different story outline that came first but was shelved. One day, I'd like to reopen the TGS Behind The Scenes section and tell this kind of stuff... but I guess that'll happen when it happens.

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Entity
Sunday, May 21, 2000 07:36:57 PM
IP: nic-163-c228-241.mw.mediaone.net

GOLIATH AND BROOKLYN - I think that Blaise said it best in the other comment room some weeks ago about seeking to elevate Goliath by tearing Brooklyn down; Goliath considered Brooklyn the gargoyle most suited for the role of his second-in-command, so to tear Brooklyn down is to indirectly tear Goliath down. Good words to remember.

BROOKLYN AND PANDORA - Like Patrick Toman, I don't feel too comfortable with the notion of all gargoyles being descended from Pandora as a transformed human. That would mean that gargoyles aren't a separate, independent race after all, but just an offshoot from humanity like the New Olympians and the Mutates. Not to mention, even worse - can you imagine how Demona would respond if she found out that gargoyles were descended from humans? I'd rather not be the one who had to break the news to her.

In fact, I believe that gargoyles would have to have pre-dated humans, if for no other reason than that stone sleep makes a lot better sense as a biological trait in a pre-human world (where the focus would be on its benefits, such as soaking up solar energy to fuel the gargoyles for gliding about at night) than in a human world (where the main result of stone sleep is that you're sitting ducks for humans in the daytime).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, May 21, 2000 06:21:38 PM
IP: 216.87.46.208.dialup-stl.primary.net

Wow, I've been very quiet this week, and it's kinda late to make a big post, but I wanted to say a few things:

****** TGS SPOILERS ******
Another good one, guys. I really like how we keep coming back to elements of previous stories. The Pandora-Brooklyn, Brooklyn-Payne, Payne-Loki interactions were handled well, and Payne is starting to become more interesting and less of an annoying twit. I agree with Airwalker about how well the enforced Brooklyn-Payne partnership is working. Delightful tension.

However, I also agree with him about Titania appearing to be out of character. In this time, given what we know about her, she shouldn't be behaving this way, and it bothers me. Unless the Titania from TGS is significantly different from Greg's Titania.

I never thought that Brooklyn and Pandora mated during the story; there wasn't any indication otherwise. That's not to say there wasn't plenty of tension. I also think that the story clearly shows that Pandora is *not* the first gargoyle: how could she be directed towards another clan if she were first?

I do have one technical nit. There were at least three cases where paragraph breaks occurred in the middle of sentences. While I have sometimes been called the "grammar police" by friends and family, I don't like to point out mistakes in TGS stories. The staff works very hard and it's easy for certain errors to go unnoticed, but these particular ones are pretty obvious and really disrupt the flow of the story. At least for me. It's also pretty obvious that I'm weird, so...

****** END SPOILERS ******

Niamhgold:
I just wanted to say that I've started reading your new story and really like it so far. This is the kind of story I enjoy reading. Same goes for your other stories. And yes, I know I have given any feedback before. :( Sorry! I'll try to do better! Really! I'm one of those who is lousy about mailing "thank you" cards as well. :P
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S:
Hey, I remember you. Um, while I'm all in favor of enthusiasm, I think you should keep something in mind. You know those "negative ads" that politicians always run on TV? The ones that try to get people to vote for their candidate by trashing the opposition? The ones that everyone complains about so bitterly? Well, your post was a lot like such an ad for Goliath. Now, I personally like the Big Guy more then Brooklyn, (no, not *that* way!) but that doesn't mean that I _dis_like His Beakness. Brooklyn's got his good points, especially the TGS version. Of course, there's nothing wrong with *not* liking Brooklyn, but maybe it would be better to avoid running any more "negative ads." They'll only lead to hurt feelings all around and that's not what this room is about, 'K? Here's a thought: why don't you try explaining why you like Goliath without comparing him to the other characters. It doesn't have to be a contest. I think his character traits stand up nicely on their own.
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SOROW:
Ack! Sorry to hear about your troubles. I've had bouts of depression myself, and nothing feels worse. Although, this place usually cheers me up. :)
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Toku Kaioto:
Welcome back. And with a heavy-duty post on religion no less. I missed those. It would be silly to say much at this point other than that my opinion is similar. I especially liked your distinction between tolerance and relativism; it gets lost so often today.
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Snyder: (yes, I know I'm jumping around: I'm in a non-linear mood)
Welcome. I hope you didn't think you could sneak in unnoticed. :)
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Rodlox:
Hey, at least the crickets were saying hello. ;)
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I'm finding the sword discussion interesting, although I don't know enough to contribute. I have a sword; a replica of a medieval Spanish sword. Bought it in Toledo, Spain several years ago for 11,000 pesetas (about $65 US :)) I got it just so I could show it off. :)
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Ack. I think that's enough for now, I'm hungry!

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, May 21, 2000 06:10:29 PM
IP: ppp-26.rb5.exit109.com

*Cassandra enters the CR through an ordinary door. After shutting it behind her, she lets out a long roar.*

*Takes a deep breath,* I feel better now. Let me explain; no there is too much. I'll sum up. I'm trying to graduate from college at the end of the summer term. (Which ends August 4th, believe it or not.) I changed majors last semesters, so courses I took under one college have to transfered and substituted for something else. I thought it was all taken care of and I only had to take the four classes this summer. Found out Friday that the substitutions had disappeared from the computer and my minor was non-existant. So I had to begin the process of getting this all fixed. Very stressful and frustrating situation. And even more so since I'm not a very patient person, and so much patience is needed in dealing with this f***ing university. End of Real Life rant. I'm better now.

Toku>I think my displeasure over Xena/Hercules is that the universe structure was not thought out thoroughly. I wasn't trying to bash Christianity. Christ had some good ideas. But I think some got lost when his followers organized the religion. Well, *shrug* they're only human.

****TIMEDANCER RELATED ISSUES, MAYBE SPOLIERS****
Winterwolf> I think the Fay developed before humans, despite being called the Third Race. That title/name could have been given in order that the races met. It was a Gargoyle name for the Fay. Wasn't Lexington the one listing the races off in the cartoon "The Mirror"? "Gargoyles, humans, Oberon's children." From a gargoyle point of view, you're the First Race, met humans next (Second Race), then the Fay (Third Race).

Brook and Pandora having sex> SOROW said it was sad if Brooklyn got Pandora pregnant. Why is it sad? Airwalker's vote was against them having sex because Brooklyn would feel guilty. Brooklyn already feels guilty for what happened to Pandora. He opened the box, she got punished for it. They feel in love, he couldn't stay. She hasn'r found any other gargoyles in all her travels and most humans and fae shun her. Mayhaps, giving her a hatchling to raise would ease her lonliness. And apparently for what he explained of gargoyle mating practices, every female laid an egg for the survival of the clan. "All unmated males fly after the unmated female..." And he doesn't know if Sata and the twins survived in the future. Sure the Spera gem gave him a vision of the twins, but he doesn't know.

Pandora as first female> Stories get garbeled and myths are stories that contain truths that cannot be told any other way. Since Pandora did try to interact with humans and was probably the first gargoyle many of them ever met, maybe her story got garbeled together with the creation of the world and we get left with the myth of Pandora's Box.

Titania> Airwalker beat me to asking this question, why is she so nice? Possible solution, started off liking humans, got tired of Oberon fooling around with them, started taking her anger with Oberon out on the humans. This builds up to the point about a thousand years ago from present time when Oberon cannot stand it any longer, divorces Titania and exiles all the Fay to the mortal world. Does this sound feasible, plausiable?

Spera> Hello, Latin! In ancient Greece! Nice moment when Brook translates the gem's name, but who gave it a Latin name?
****END OF TIMEDANCER SPECIFICS****

S> Sheesh, this lady happens to find sexy traits in all the gargoyle and human males from the show. Now as to which one wins out of all of them as sexiest, Sir Griff. Leather, a mohawk, tough, British, and a knight for King Arthur. I would like to add I'm not trying to start a "Griff is the best" campaign. If given an hour with one male character random choice, I could have fun with just about anyone they sent me. I have a broad definition of fun, too.

*Cassandra grins wickedly, then looks down at her watch.*

So much to do before X-Files. Bye-bye.

*Leaves through the nice normal door.*

Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Sunday, May 21, 2000 05:35:47 PM
IP: 199.184.64.187

Rodlox:> Italian: "Noi morituri ti salutiamo"
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, May 21, 2000 05:28:11 PM
IP: h213-20-27.mi2.albacom.net

Rodlox> Latin: "morituri te salutant."
German: "Die Todgeweihten grüßen Dich."

Snyder - [e9525710@stud4.tuwien.ac.at]
Vienna, Austria
Sunday, May 21, 2000 05:04:37 PM
IP: c05.dialin.tuwien.ac.at


hi...does anyone know the Latin translation of this?:

‘we who are about to die salute you’ {Norse translations welcome as well...Japanese and - okay, i'll say it: any langage translation is welcome}.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail .com]
Sunday, May 21, 2000 04:18:22 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com


I'M BACK!!!!

::crickets::

wow, thanks guys. {sheesh}.

<<**TD Spoilers**
Great ep. I was affraid there for a moment that it would turn out that Brooklyn and Pandora would be the parents of the gargoyle race...how would he have explained that to Sata, anyway? I am curious. The Clan that Pandora is headed to. Is that the clan that is going to become Clan Wyvern? If so, I would guess that we have met one of Brook's first ancestors. or not. who knows
**end** >>

kinda gives new meaning to the song "I'm My Own Grandpa", eh? :)


don't ask where i was this weekend....it was a place that could've drowned a sleeping gargoyle!

Rodlox
Sunday, May 21, 2000 03:34:20 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Can anybody give me information on biker gangs? I'm getting ready to flesh out one in the RP and I wanted to be at least 1/2 way realistic.

I heard through email that AMD was supposed to release new processor line in mid-June and I was wondering: Is the best time to buy a PC after new processors are released? I'm not looking to buy the fastest thing on the market (just 600 mhz, 20 + gig hd, CD-RW, LS120, 128 + meg RAM, full tower, 19" monitor). I have been looking around computers.com doing price comparisons.

No rp today. Wait a minute, that's 2 days in a row.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, May 21, 2000 02:47:55 PM
IP: max1-33.cwy.cei.net

Hey Everybody!

We just got a lot of RL stuff this weekend.

There's a bunch of CR pics that we're working on, some new, some revamped. All good. (We'll put them up on a page soon.)

Just wanted to tell everyone that we're alive and still doing the CR pics and CR Info stuff -- we've just been really busy.

Fire Storm & Lady Mystic - [mystic-storm@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Sunday, May 21, 2000 12:57:57 PM
IP: t3-56.visitus.net

** Niamhgold makes a quick post **

In answer to "S's" question: Ah, so we've got another Goliath supporter :) Yay! Personally, I thought Brooklyn was more the older-brother type during the show; so I never really thought he was cute or anything. Goliath _was_ my favorite; Brooklyn, I don't feel, could ever match him in strength (until Goliath gets really old). Brooklyn was a little more intelligent, but, basically, I _am_ one of those people who would choose Goliath over Mr. Beak.
Of course, that's when dealing with the Brooklyn from the series. I suppose that, after Timedancer, some people started seeing Brook under a new light. Thus, infatuation. I also think it has something to do with him not having a mate in the show, while Goliath had Elisa--and maybe some people thought this made the "Big Guy" less interesting, less available.
Me, personally? Well, I tend to keep my crushes to RL, but, if I had to pick a gargie from the show, it _would_ be Goliath. Then, Thailog (I think it's the battle armor), then Gabriel. But the one who takes the cake has got to be....drumroll....Matt Bluestone :)

However, Brooklyn will always remain one of the more growth-oriented characters in the show, and, for that, I'll support him :)

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:41:53 AM
IP: lac-flex218.ncia.net

*Warpmind enters, carrying a three-pint Sprite bottle, drinking thirstily.*
Hi, guys. Word of advice: when eating pizza called "Diabolus", geep liquids nearby! It was great, but my intestines will never forgive me! :)

Mecord: You're welcome, compadre. Actually, I was forced to use that one, myself, once. I'm eternally grateful to she who gave me the advice to begin with. ;)

S: Dude, there's a *multitude* of genes involved in all physical traits, not just for size. And a gargoyle doesn't necessarily age at his/her same biological age as a human does, considering that humans age mostly in their sleep (and gargoyles are naturally unable to do the same). I find it completely plausible that a gargoyle can grow another foot or two from he's fourty to he's eighty. And Brooklyn's no gentleman? Tsk, if he were no gentleman, why'd he do what he did for Maggie in "The Cage"? He's a nice guy, and in my eyes, just as good a person as Goliath (remember, Goliath left the clan during the Avalon sequence, and Brooklyn was forced to take charge before he thought he was ready for it), so it's not a matter of deeming Brooklyn superior, but rather an *equal*. There, 'nuff said.

Gside: If those katanas were standard military issue, I find it improbable that they were *that* old... I'm talking about the ones that date at *least* a couple of centuries back. You know, I have the possibility to acquire an authentic old katana for the mere sum of a couple thousand dollars (US), but that is a bit much for a sword, right now. B'sides, it's illegal to wield in Norway, anyway... Maybe if I got an Illuminati international carrying license... And who the HECK is Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner? Wait, don't answer it; I'm downloading... and God have merc\y on your sole if I find it offensive. ;)

Well, that's about it for now. Later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:30:15 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

S writes: >> I mean, how can robust Gargoyle males come about from someone like Brooklyn? I really don't see how. You "can" get a scrawny Gargoyle from a buff one if something happens with the genes. Not the other way around. <<

That last statement is incorrect. There is not just a single gene that controls body type like that, and you're also neglecting to consider that only HALF of the genes come from the father. The other half comes from the mother, who may very well carry the traits in question.

Of course, in my mind there's no question on this issue. The gargoyle race evolved into existance over tens of thousands of years just like the human race... they didn't pop into being when some time traveling gargoyle bumped tails with a human who was magically turned into one by a fay.

And that's not even touching on the kind of temporal paradox such a scenario would be were it instead reasoned to be true. The tune "I'm My Own Grandpa" comes to mind in that event.

Patrick Toman
Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:22:46 AM
IP: ac81cd0e.ipt.aol.com

AIRWALKER - Thanks for your "Nor Iron Bars a Cage" comments. I checked the bit on Deucalion and Pyrrha in the original story, and found that it simply mentioned them living with the New Olympians, without any mention of New Olympus itself. So they could very well have settled in Greece (the NOs were presented as already following Deucalion and Pyrrha at the end of "The Downfall") instead of New Olympus. (Admittedly, the "New" part is misleading).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, May 21, 2000 07:11:30 AM
IP: 216.87.46.116.dialup-stl.primary.net

Wilek> <<Grail?>> No, and if that's the general tone of the humour...>>: Well, there are also deadly rabbits, flagellate monks ("...dona eis requiem **THUMP**"), the venomous French, swallows, Swammp Castle, ni, and of course the Black Knight (who always triumphs).

Winterwolf> <<I'm sorry Gside>>: Not a problem in the least.
<<up until about two weeks ago maybe even a little less I had a difficult time distinguishing between you and Wilek>>: Interesting. Any particular reason, or just on the days I used Dark Blue?
<<Niamhgold>... What else did you do in NYC if you don't mind my asking?>>: I would sincerely hope the Stage Deli for a corned beef sandwich on rye, with mustard (my opinion as a must for New York).

Niamhgold> <<I kneel to you, oh One of the Smart Brain>>: Not necessary, just the usual sacrifices and tithes. Seriously, my academic is practically the only thing I can be proud about (and hopefully a modicum of intelligence to go with it).

Shadowrider> Random english note: A mechanic is a person who (generally) works on engines. A mechanism is something (unspecified group of parts) that does something (unspecified) (also sometimes applied to chemistry or biology as a series of reactions).

Warpmind> <<many of those old swords would go from father to son for generations...>>: These seemed to be standard military issue.

Revel> <<I think almost everyone in here has hopes of someday taking a story that it is driving them nuts and having it published>>: I guess I would be the exception.

Gunjack> poli sci: Coming right up. (please let me know when you got it)
"*.pls": That's just my shorthand for a file with a pls extention (this copy is a week or two behind). pls is a playlist, accepted just as widely as m3u. If you do click on it in your netscape, it should bring it up as a text file and you can see what's there. In IE, it apparently brings it to your mp3 player.

**SPOILER**Random TGS thoughts: In the second dance episode (TOoJ2), Brooklyn commented that the Gate had "gotten pretty erratic lately." My thought was that they had discovered Payne's bit of Loki, and managed to absorb it into the Gate, which upset the balance in the already detiorating Gate, giving Loki more freedom for play. **/SPOILER**

Toku Kai> <<The katana is a great sword, I'm just saying that there is always a better blade for almost every occassion>>: Random unenlightned question: But is therea better blade for all situations? (i.e. no matter what, that one other blade would be a better choice.)

Mp3 time. I dedicate this one to Warpmind. I give you Norway's bravest son: Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, by Warren Zevon.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, May 21, 2000 02:36:14 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Gunjack Valentine: <<Out of curiousity, where'd you get your info on katanas? To my understanding of edged weapons in general and the kiatana in particular, they're a bit better than THAT... I'll try to post a longer explanation tomorrow night...>>

Well, I have about 2 and a half friends who work or have worked as bladesmiths, I've bought a few modern make swords and seen them banged around a lot. On top of that, I have a large pool of people with an obsession on feudal japan and martial arts with WAY too much time on their hands.

Admittedly, I probably have portrayed the katana in a bad light. I love the sword myself, it is just that shows like "highlander" kind of give it a huge mystical "uber-sword" aura that is deceptive.

The katana is a heavily romanticized weapon when it comes to general effectiveness - it is not the sword of the gods or anything. It can't cut through metal armor. It was never designed to stab. When they were master crafted it was unheard of to parry. They do everything fairly to very well, but they just don't make the cut in any extreme: There is always a sword you'd rather have in almost any situation for speed, cutting power, stabbing ability, or parrying quality.

The katana is a great sword, I'm just saying that there is always a better blade for almost every occassion.

S> <<Okay, here goes...again... >>

I hope you learned something last time. I'm expecting you'll certainly refrain from accusing people of being ignorant just because they disagree with you this time. I think you about wore out your welcome last time challenging people to continuously justify their opinions about character views in some sort of running fire-fight, considering your continuing exhibition of a refusal to respect anyone's conflicting opinions. The last thing I want to be reading for the next few weeks is a rehash of you taking every nice thing anyone has to say about Brooklyn and saying, "But, you see, you're misguided ... all these good things really belong to Goliath."

A discussion is nice once in a while, but an outright condescension fest like last time where you keep re-defining what everyone else has to say is definitely not welcome. It is inappropriate to twist people's words and try to put them back in their mouths, so it shouldn't happen this time. You've got your taste-based opinions, and a right to express it with some function of comfort here. This time around, I'll expect and Demand that you show the same respect and consideration for other people's right to voice taste-based opinions in here without having them completely condescended to and ripped on.

Do try a bit more tactful approach this time, huh? I don't want this getting as edgy as it did last time, with people going into emotional tizzies over popularity contests in search of some sort of populist vindication. No need to bring up the tension levels.

We've been getting along real well as of late, and I don't want a flare up over something like this. I just wanna keep the ball rolling and preempt any misunderstandings over rude or provacative behavior.

Toku Kaioto - CR Deputy Administrator - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Sunday, May 21, 2000 01:48:25 AM
IP: 1cust72.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

**COMMENTS/SPOILERS ON CURRENT TIMEDANCER EPISODE**

This episode simply put was extremely good. It touched on a ton of little things that I really enjoyed:

- The Brooklyn/Payne Interaction: With absence of Sata this season, getting Payne as Brooklyn's travelling companion was one of the best moves made so far. The interaction between the two comes off as extremely realistic and having these two individuals who can't stand each other being forced to travel together opens up so many possibilities. Not to mention that it's fun to continue to see this perfect odd couple situation.


- Pandora's return - It's good to see Pandora again. I was wondering what happened to her after that Season 1 episode she appeared in. And bringing her back rather than having Brooklyn happen to run into Meyrt again was a great move by the Staff. It lead to a much greater amount of tension than could ever existed with Meyrt who is after all just a living statue and also avoids a lot of the baggage that would have to have been dealt with if it had been Meyrt he ran into.

I didn't like the implication given in this episode that Pandora might be literally the first female Gargoyle on Earth but since it was all really just speculation by Payne on a mythological story, it doesn't really bother me that much.

(I wonder if the story isn't only garbled up much more - what if Pandora wasn't the first female Gargoyle like Payne speculated but only the first female Gargoyle in some forgotten clan?)

As for the speculation on whether something happened between Brooklyn and Pandora, I'm leaning towards nothing really having happened. It's entirely possible that something did happen and would/will make for interesting story later down the road after Brooklyn and Sata reunite and/or if they run into Pandora but until something is obviously stated then I'm going with the nothing happened route.

Just because they broke down after all that happened doesn't mean that anything had to end up happening. And if something did happen then Brooklyn is the type of person I imagine would be racked by guilt afterwards - if not for what happened then for the fact that if he could give in and mate with someone else then he might be forgetting his wife who when he last saw her was pregnant AND dying.


- Payne and Loki: I really like the passing mention to possible radiation sickness and I like the implied explination as to why he probably didn't get sick at Nagasaki - he had some of Loki's power in him from the first time he travelled through time.

As for the bit where Payne seems to name Loki, I think that it's possible he just updated the name (Coyote was Coyotyl for example) rather than actually giving him a completely new name.


Two things that did stand out or bothered me:

After Brooklyn says: "You're in the process of quickening, Pandora", I spent the rest of the episode waiting for her to jump out with a sword and scream "There can be only one!" :-)

In generally I enjoyed the portrayal of the Fay and thought it came out well although I really hated the attitude they had. It's kind of how I felt when watching THE NEW OLYMPIANS - loved the episode but the behavior of the characters got on my nerves.

Deucalion and Pyrrha were the leaders of New Olympus? I thought that New Olympus wasn't founded until years later when life in Greece became unbearable for the Mythological beings. It was immediately founded in TGS rather than having everyone just settle down in Greece proper? Why?

I do wonder about one thing - why is Titania being portrayed as being so understanding? Isn't she Hera at this point? Isn't Oberon/Zeus supposed to be the more enlightened being at this point and thus be the one to be more sympathetic to Pandora than Titania should be in this age? I sort of got the impression that after writing Titania as the enlightened, nice character in Main TGS, the staff might have accidentally overlooked the fact that she's supposed to be a cold-hearted Fey, disdainful of mortals prior to sometime in the last thousand years.

** END OF COMMENTS/SPOILERS ON CURRENT TIMEDANCER EPISODE**

Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Sunday, May 21, 2000 12:11:37 AM
IP: 55.new-york-21-22rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

30 minutes 'till beddy-by, so I'll make this quick...

Gside - Sorry, I missed the political Sience song. The night I was planning to download it, I OD'd on painkillers and passed out... What's a *pls?

Toku - Out of curiousity, where'd you get your info on katanas? To my understanding of edged weapons in general and the kiatana in particular, they're a bit better than THAT... I'll try to post a longer explanation tomorrow night...

Real post tomorrow night...

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:56:39 PM
IP: nas-48-183.dallas.navipath.net

Hello, everyone. I have a question directed toward you Brooklyn fans. But, first, this:

Brooklyn is the "Adam" of the Gargoyles????!!! No, no, no! No way! Impossible! Please tell me it's not true! Please! Please! You CANNOT get a "Goliath" from a Brooklyn! No no no! I mean, how can robust Gargoyle males come about from someone like Brooklyn? I really don't see how. You "can" get a scrawny Gargoyle from a buff one if something happens with the genes. Not the other way around. I hope really hope that Brooklyn isn't the father of the Gargoyles. *shudder*

I, once again, am going to open the Pandora's box, so to speak. I hope this won't annoy you all too much, this is just driving me insane. Okay, here goes...again... This is directed only to the people who have a little thing for him, mainly females...what do you see in Brooklyn? Yes I know, you're groaning, but I just don't get it. How do you pick "him" over Goliath? Goliath of all people! I know people have different tastes but, man, this just doesn't make any since. I'm talking about personalities mainly. How? I made the mistake of thinking Goliath was going to be the most popular male gargoyle, but it seems he isn't. The guy's an absolute gentleman. Don't you ladies like gentlemen? Brooklyn's like his opposite.

And another thing, why are some of you people who are writing the stories lopping on "Goliath's" personality atributes onto Brooklyn or trying to make him out-show Goliath and then say Goliath sucks or something. He can never do that, so I don't why you try. Here's an example, in this one story, I forgot what it's called, someone had Brooklyn go away for awhile then come back all bigger and buffer and more skilled than Goliath. What kind of mess is that? I couldn't help but start ROTFLMAO, it was absolutely ridiculous. The guy's at the end of his growth period and there's no way he's going to get eight feet tall all of a sudden. Sheesh, some people. They seem to be quite delusional, trying to say he's buff or big when he isn't. If "Brooklyn" is really big, then what is "Goliath'? I'd really like to know. Then another person tries to say his voice is deep. Is his voice deep? I think not. I'm going to finish this later because I've ran out of steam.

S
Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:43:30 PM
IP: ip20.tacoma18.wa.pub-ip.psi.net

Hi ya'll
First, a moment of silence for my Fading Suns character's brother. He died that others might live.

Second, something slightly less frivilous.
Hyperion> Depends on what you're trying to do. Amptguard style PVC and foam swords are light enough that you can wield two blades of equal length with no real trouble. With anything bigger, you have to make some adaptations. Here are my basic choices:

Longsword - I usually use a longsword with a shortsword, counting on the shortsword for primary defense and switching stance frequently to lunge with the longsword. When you do so, you can cause your opponent to misjudge your range, which is always good.

Another choice is to hold one sword in a reverse grip to protect your leading arm and fire over it with the other. You can also use the "backwards" sword for a really nasty backhand swing, but it won't have much power unless your swords are ballanced just so.

A lot of guys in the SCA fight with two longswords held up almost like a boxer's stance. They can flip them out to parry easily, and rain down blows on their opponent's head and shoulders. This won't help in Amptguard much, since head shots are illegal.

Rapier- I love Florentine rapiers. One stays over my head like a scorpion's sting. The other is held out in front to defend me. I can lunge with the back sword very quickly, then switch the swords' roles. This causes my opponent to have to deal with parries from different directions every few seconds. The real goal, of course, is to get both of your blades on the "inside" so that your opponent's arms are further apart than yours. Then he can't attack you very well, and you can perforate him pretty much at will.

Rapier and dagger is similar to longsword and shortsword, but you'll rely on thrusts more than slashes. I haven't found any use in reversing the grip on my Main Gauche, as it's not very useful to block with, just to parry like a car's windshield wiper.

Incidentally, if at all possible, thrusts are preferable to slashes. They're faster, harder to read, and easier to recover from if things go wrong. That's why I like Rapier over Longsword. That's just me, though.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:31:37 PM
IP: ip203.fort-worth6.tx.pub-ip.psi.net

yo. *sigh* another rough day at the office for, but I'm hanging in there. :)

Also about the college applications...after I made that last post, my sister all of a sudden said she wasn't sure anymore about when she applied. (note to self:smear her room with honey to attract ants. >:)) then my parents say the reason why they haven't brought it up is because everything is on schedule and I have nothing to worry about. Oy Ve.

Sisters can be a pain in the butt sometimes. *sigh* :P

Mary Flanders
Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:26:44 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Sorry, that was my fault....me bad.

Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:06:03 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Hey Winterwolf

Thanks for the pics so far!
Any enhaced images you decide
to send me that would be great!

I'd also like to think that after you're
done helping me we still correspond
it would be kind of shitty of me to
have you help me and then say " Oh
thanks a lot for helping now go away"
So I'll still be posting here and
emailing you even after the fact.


Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 09:45:05 PM
IP: usr68.cqc.com

**TIMEDANCER STUFF**

DID Brooklyn and Pandora mate? Thats a question the TGS staff debated quite a long time on. The only thing we discussed longer is an upcoming storyline... (WHich I'll talk about when the time comes, if I remember to...)

But the things that were tossed around and pointed out basically ammount to this.

At first some *myself included) were personally against Brooklyn mating with Pandora, because Sata is THE one and being a hopeless romantic, wanted it to stay that way and for him to stay loyal to her.

But others pointed out that he actually *DID* love Pandora first, it wasn't just a physical attraction. He also loved Meyrt before Sata.

Sata isn't *THE* one, she's just the one the readers know best because she's the one Brooklyn ended up with in the end. But that doesn't give Brooklyn some sort of super ability to resist all temptation.

He loved Pandora first. He still loved her. It was her time to mate, she might have needed help starting the gargoyle race. More to the point, Brooklyn has been seperated from Sata for some time already, been through serious bouts of depression in the matter, lost quite a bit of hope, and has no way of knowing if he'll ever get back to her. Pandora was there, they had just overcome a powerful enemy, and as someone else said, he IS only human, so to speak. On the otherhand, Brooklyn knew full well he might be leaving almsot immediatley.

Honestly, its perfectly believable that Brooklyn and Pandora would mate, and Payne DID show up an hour later. But at the same time, to the readers, and to Brooklyn, Sata is THE one.

The staff argued all these points back and forth for a while, and came to a decision.

We left it open ended. We let the reader decide for themselves and judge accordingly. I have my personal opinions on the matter, but since I wrote or helped write (am writing actually) the last three stories of the season, my opinion seeps through in there. Slightly. You can watch for it then and base your decision off that, even though I won't say decisivley if he did or did not in them.

Did Brooklyn mate with Pandora? That's for you to decide.

**END TIMEDANCER STUFF**

RPers- This is a message from the CR Admin... Try to keep your RP's no longer than the rest of your post. If more than 3/4ths of your post are RP consistently, there's a problem. I fully support the RP, but one of the rules about it is you don't post JUST RP. Some of you seem to be throwing in one or two minor comments to get past that rule. Please, try to have other commentary equivilent to whatever RP you post.

Robby
Saturday, May 20, 2000 05:53:58 PM
IP: spider-to074.proxy.aol.com

I hear you Robbie, after my sophmore year of high scool there was no such thing as vacation anymore. Sometime it just works out that way though.
Anyhow on to other points of interest.

TIMEDANCER PERSONAL OPINION
Not much to spoil because I would not want to ruin it for anyone who is just getting to it. But it was realy good including the pic.
Now about what others have said about the story itself. I do agree that Loki just allowed Payne to use that name because he was aware that Payne was completely terrifed of him. Then again his name could have just been spelled diferently like Coyote.
Now about Pandora and Brooklyn starting an entire race, well, that kind of takes you bake to that whole Adam and Eve thought. I just don't think an entire race could be started by just two people because everyone would be related and thoughts like that can really ruin a date. Enough of that for now
END
Christina-I think almost everyone in here has hopes of someday taking a story that it is driving them nuts and having it published. In any case I think we could use all the help we could get.

Later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
bayou city, tx
Saturday, May 20, 2000 05:44:47 PM
IP: spider-th014.proxy.aol.com

**Mecord enters, inhaling deeply**

Ah, smells much better in here, thanks Winterwolf. :)

Sorow>> Depression? Ouch, I can attribute most every problem in my life to depression. I sincerely hope things get better for you.

Warpmind>> <slap'em, and threaten to drop a safe on'em> Not a bad idea…. Now that you mention it, one of my alternate identities is a part of the story. This could prove interesting. >:)

Gasper>> Welcome aboard the RP. :)

Christine>> At my current rate, by the time I get this book finished, you’ll be a pro.

Archwolf>> <any person who owns livestock, guard animals or
domestic pets may shoot a wolf if it is on or within one mile of his
property> Well of all the insolent, selfish, impudent pieces of legislative crap.
Not only do they call this protecting property but a bounty as well? That’s not protection, it’s a declaration of war! Every gun wielding punk with a pet gerbil will be out to collect. Governments never cease to amaze me. Where do I sign up to protest? Wait till the Guild hears about this….

*takes deep breath to calm nerves*

*****RP*****
“Tetrodotoxin huh?” Mecord strokes his chin and gazes at the changed Archwolf, “I remember using something similar on Lithanne once, when she was working for Gar.”
Senthet raised an eyebrow, “You knew her back then? But that was before you lost your memory. Are you regaining your memories?”
“I don’t think so, when I was hit by Beelzebub’s power I had a few flashes.”
“That’s great and all,” SJ said, “But we have more pressing issues. For one I really would like to find my body and get it back.”
Mec nodded, “Senthet, scout the area, find out where we are and contact the others.”
Senthet ran off and Warpmind studied Mecord. There was something diferent about the elf, he just couldn’t place what. Mec reached into his pouch and withdrew the Mastergem.
“What are you going to try?” asked Warpmind.
“Take a look inside Archwolf’s head and find out what happened.”
Mecord closed his eyes and the gem began to glow. A few moments later an energy surge knocked the elf against the wall. Warpmind quickly retrieved the gem.
“What happened?”
Mecord shook his head, “Some kind of outside interference. I can break past it, but it would damage his mind.”
“Did you find out anything?”
“ShadowWolf.”
“Who?”
At that moment Senthet returned, “The twins are still aboard the Avatar, Lloky’s on her way to the Middle-East, I couldn’t reach Bardic, and we’re in some place called Atlanta.”
*****End RP*****

Mecord
Saturday, May 20, 2000 04:27:32 PM
IP: usr44.mtwest.net

Hello everyone. I guess I owe an explanation to why I suddenly stopped posting for a while. Well, all I can really say is that it's been a horrible week. I seemed to have gone through a fit of depression for the last week, but luckily I got over it yesterday. So I'm sorry for my absence. Unfortunately, my best friend is very angry with me and won't even talk. I miss him.

For those who were asking about my final exemptions, in my school it depends on the number of absences you have. Only juniors can be exempt the second semester (seniors are exempt both semesters as long as they meet the requirements) and you must have no more than 5 absences. If you have 5 or less, then you must meet the semester average rules. If you have 5 absences and an average of a 70 in one class, then you may be exempt from that one final. So you might be exempt from some finals but not others. The fewer absences you have in a class, the higher the average goes. I only had two classes where I had 1 absence, and all my semester averages are above 90 anyway. So I don't have to take any finals, thank God. So Friday was my last day of school, YEAH!

I went rock climbing for the first time and I loved it. I did pretty well too for a beginner, probably cause I'm a dancer and I have to always be physically fit. Whatever.

Lexy> OH! OH! Please e-mail me and I'd love to get some of that Garg stuff off your hands! E-MAIL ME I SAY! It's under my dad's name.

Wilek> Are you changing colors? Drat, I was just beginning to be able to read that annoying dark blue print.

****SPOILERS FOR TD EP****
One question. I guess a lot of people have been asking the same thing, but the ep is really suggestive and questionable. The big question... did Brooklyn get Pandora pregnant? If it's true, that's so sad *sniff*
****END SPOILERS****

See ya later, rookery sibs.

SOROW - [jim.abadie@prodigy.net]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 03:33:08 PM
IP: dll2a010-0291.splitrock.net

*Warpmind enters, looking around.*

Niamhgold: Uh, it is I, not Wilek who has the Middle of Norway as noted location... and believe me, I think Norway is even less developed in that respect... primarily, our comic options are narrowed down to the nine or ten options available at the Supermarket (at least half of which are intended for 3-8-year-olds...) Some places suck, eh? :(

Shadowrider: Crummy best translates to a lower standard of quality. Much like anything by Microsoft. Oh, and believe me, a volunteer-type of military system, I believe, is one of the changes when Norway (and the rest of Scandinavia) falls under the Nereus Project, i.e. *my* rule.

Gside: Uh, well, as I recall reading somewhere, it was usually the victorious samurai who broke the blade, to indicate his opponent was a worthy fighter... obviously, the US troops in the Pacific weren't that picky about that tradition. ;) Of course, as I recall it, many of those old swords would go from father to son for generations...

Wilek: Official credo? Dude, I suspect it's at least the unofficial credo. :) And as for reinforcing those laws... you know what Oldwarez and Abandonwarez is, right? Stash so old, it's technically still illegal, but the manufacturers just don't care anymore, and it's virtually impossible to get originals any longer... *Estimate* I think I've got roughly 800 Megs of the stuff... :| (But don't hold me to any accuracy here.) ;) Had these copyright laws been enforced, I fear I'd be taking a *long* vacation at the Iron Bar Hotel... of course, in Norway, that chain of hotels are more like paid vacation that punishment... :| I think we need to rent some seven-foot, 300-pound negroes called "Bubba" for the prison system, eh? ];)

Hyperion: From my position (i.e. the one with a lot of theoretical knowhow, but virtually no practice), I'd recommend a fairly light sword in one hand, and a shorter weapon of any kind in the other; maybe a hammer, or something... Unless, of course, you decide to use Sata's weapons technique... katana and wasisashi (or however that sword was spelled again - gotta check.)

**RP**
Warpmind slowly dragged out the small dagger from ShadowWolf's leg, watching the still body.
"That oughtta keep him still for a while, at least until we can figure out what happened."
Mecord and Senthet stared at Warpmind.
"Uh, what was on that dagger, anyway?"
"A secret recipe I learned on a trip in the Carribbean. I'm not about to give you all the details, but it contains tetrodotoxin; an extract from puffer fish."
Senthet raised a brow.
"Tetrodotoxin? Sounds familiar, somehow..."
"Yeah, it's so-called zombie poison; the hapless victim, in most cases, will lie in a dead-like state for about, oh, say, four days? However, since this guy is a werewolf, his body mass, and some other factors, will cut it down by about half."
"So he's not dead, it just looks like it?"
"Yup. He can't move, his cardiac and respiratory functions are so faint, they're undetectable, but he lives. Now, if you two could please try to find out what's been done to him, there's the faint hope of restoring him to his old self."
**RP**

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, May 20, 2000 01:20:06 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Bikers in the CR:> I forgot to say before. Add me to the list.

Winterwolf:> So you decided to learn, isn't it? Good, welcome in the immense family on two wheels. About getting started...well, the best thing for sure is finding someone to teach you the basics. A friend, a relative, or a driving school if you find nothing more. Having someone to show you things and correcting your mistakes is for sure the best thing. After you will have learnt the basics (braking, taking a turn, shifting gear and maneuvering with engine stopped (it is more difficult than you could think...not really difficult, but not that easy)) all that you will have to do is...practice, practice and more practice. If you can, you'd be better to find a wide open and unfrequented place (an empty parking for example, or something similar) to practice the basic maneuvers without being disturbed until you'll feel sure enough to ride in the traffic. Remember to make things gradually, without exaggeration: noone was born with a riding skill (except maybe Kevin Schwantz, Carl Fogarty, Max Biaggi or Giacomo Agostini...), everyone had to learn. If you will make some mistake, don't be afraid: just remember what was your mistake and try again. Most of all, remember that riding is not that difficult: even a 16 boy can learn to ride, and so you can for sure. You will have to find a bike for practice too, and I suggest you to start with an easy one. So, avoid hyper-sport models as well as too big engines. A Virago like Jannie's one, or a single-cylinder enduro bike, could be good choices for a beginner, and a second-hand model is supposed not to be too expensive. The best choice to begin, IMO, is a 125cc off-road bike, though (quite common in Europe, while I don't know in U.S.A.). Those bikes in fact are extremely lightweight and have not too much power. Also, they are usually well-balanced, allowing the rider to remedy eventual mistakes without too much problems and, last but not least, they're quite cheap to repair, so if you touch the ground you have not to spend too much to regain the road. As an alternate...seek some second-hand Moto Guzzi V35 (there are a lot of models, and are all good.) Moto Guzzi is an old Italian firm, but I know its bikes are quite popular in the States. The V35 is nothing special, a two-cylinders 350 cc bike with a five speed gear and air cooling. Both its style (a bit anonymous) and mechanic, are not for sure the state-of-the-art but is a really easy bike. With a very reliable mechanic (they never break, even after a lot of Km) and a balanced building, not too heavy and powerful, quite maneuverable and easy to repair, the V35 has always been considered a school-bike. It is also supposed to be very cheap to buy and mantain, and quite easy to sell as you'll have learnt and will decide to step to something more funny. There are a lot of other models that could interest you, anyway...perhaps you'd be better having a tour of shops and mechanics and making a list of those models you can afford...if you'll let me know the models, I'm quite sure I'll be able to provide you with some infos about the bike.
Oh, I don't know how does it work in N.Y.C....here you have to take a driving license for bikes, with an exam to pass. Is it the same in N.Y.?
About bycicle abilities...well, the basics are the same, but they're different things. Probably learning to ride motorbikes will improve your bycicle abilities as well.
How did I get started? Well, I can say it is a genetic matter. My father is a rider since he was 18 (means more than 40 years of experience), and a very good rider. He used to race in the track as he was a young, and he had his share of wins and podiums. (If you are wondering, yes, I raced on the track as well for a while, but with little success...) So in my home there's always been some bikes, and my dad taught me to ride just as I was tall enough to touch the ground with my tiptoes while sitting on the saddle. I was 14, and I learnt to ride on a Honda VT 500...then, as I was 16, the minimum age you can legally ride a bike in Italy, he gave me my first bike, a Yamaha TDR 125cc that carried me everywhere in Italy and outside for four years...and I never stopped riding.
Oh, keep always in mind the Golden Rule, and keep me informed!

Archwolf:> Thank you for the explanation. :)
Minnesota:Hm, bad things never end...

Hyperion:> Congratulations for you job!

Ok, nothing more to reply. I have something to send to Niamhgold, so I'll leave right now.
Have a good weekend everyone.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, May 20, 2000 01:12:12 PM
IP: h255-22-145.mi2.albacom.net

Hola!

Patrick: Muchas Gracias for the link :) I needed a few lines to finish my fanfic, and, now, it's done! ** Laughs hysterically, throws papers around ** I'm free, I'm free! The darn thing took me eight months to do, but now I'm free!

(**continues laughing maniacally and speaks between giggles **)

Winterwolf: Sure, you can ask what else I did. Let's see...I did the basics--the Empire, Saint Paddy's (saw a wedding; the poor bride was scared to death by all the cameras!), went to TRL (on Fri), saw "Swing," then just wandered about a bit. Had to get my pal a souvenir at Hard Rock, then tried to peek in at Letterman, bought some leechie fruit (sp?), a ton of Anime vids, and got a sunburn. Oh, yeah, and shopped, because that's all my other friends wanted to do. **grumbles** I may be a girl, but we have some of the same stores at home. What we _don't_ have is a Chinatown, a Wall St., and the Public Library. (I'm gonna take my picture of that, superimpose Slimer on the ion, and make like I was in the Ghostbuster's movie :)

Hyperion: < job in graphical design > Very many congratulations to you!

Wilek: I think I agree with Winterwolf ( "I think Wilek is so popular we naturally want to say something to him regularly" :)

Gside: ** Bows ** I kneel to you, oh One of the Smart Brain. :)

** Laughs even harder ** I'm free of the fanfic, I tell you! FREEEEEEE!

Adios, gang

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:58:40 PM
IP: lac-flex115.ncia.net

**RP related**
Gasper - No hard feelings here about joining the other RP. Speaking of RP, no RP today from me. I have to do some planning before I proceed. MS Word says my archive is 67 pages long.
**END RP related**

Hmm. I feel better knowing I'm not the only one with multiple email addresses. I'm still spam free with the email address on my web forms. Winterwolf, stop shedding hair in the CR Room and I'll stop summoning lightning around your home at night.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:34:20 PM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

*The door get blown off it's hinges by a massive, almost visable shockwave. Hyperion strieds in, gleaming pure white. He wears a breastplate that glows painfully bright. His eyes are pure white. His hair crackles with St. Elmo's Fire. A sword with an alabaster hilt and a shimmering diamond blade is in his hand. As he crosses the threshold, the doorframe scorches, and catches fire in a few places.*

What the heck is this!?! I'm gone for a few days and people start posting?!?! What do you people think this is? Some sort of _comment room_!?!?!
For the record, I'm in a good mood right now. Looks like I'll get a job during graphical design, a frined offered to pay for half of my ticket to his wedding in Seattle, I'm finally making progress with starting my company, and I'm going to visit the 4th grade class I corrisponded with when I was sailing.

The resident swordsmen> Any tips for fighting with two swords? I've just started learning and wouldn't mind a few pointers. BTW, thanks for clearing up the dagger/longsword debate.

TD episode> Good. My only thought with the series is that after 3 seasons (How many in story years?) Brooklyn still seems a little too startled... I mean, he was pithy and fairly unflapable in the animated episodes, I feel as that should carry over more. <shrug> Not that I'm complaining. I still like it, and it was needed, esp. in that last episode, but just overall....

Archwolf><minnesota> Right there with you. I felt the same way about the fools with guns who shoot eagles and hawks because they claim they hunt their dogs and cats...<snarl>
Don't woory, I'm sure at some point PETA or someone will contest that. Might as well have them do some good.
Which reminds me, I nned to get down to the Aviary. Must fly!
*Lifts sword above his head and shouts*
Instruments of destruction!
Tools of powerplays!
It's a violent eruption
Existence drips away...
What it really matter,
When nothing really counts?
Brave eternal darkeness,
When you're drained of every ounce...
And when the nightmare's over,
The final from the storm
To dust of all creation
To ashes we transform!
*Flashes into a sphere of pure light which quickly vanishes, leaving a scorch mark on the floor.*







Hyperion - [hyperion@jutice.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:12:03 PM
IP: ehdup-s3-11.rmt.net.pitt.edu

Mecord > I'd be glad to help, but given my track record at getting published, I can't imagine my advice would be any good! :P

AvMists > still time to send in articles and pics! Am looking for Character Spotlights, etc. Deadline is the 28th for stories, the 31st for pics.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:10:30 PM
IP: 07-155.009.popsite.net

*Winterwolf enters the CR and takes some air freshener and pine for the floor and sanitizes the room. "Now it should be spring fresh for even the sensitive elf nose."* Right Mecord? ;)

Bikers> This was asked a while ago but I'd like to put in as biker in training.

Wilek> <game> Drop me an email and I'll send it all the stuff straight to you.

Gside and Wilek> <I think that was me> Wilek no wait Gside... Wahhh! *Winterwolf gets thrown of the bridge into the chasm for answering incorrectly. He is forced to reload a previously saved game.* I'm sorry Gside. I must confess, up until about two weeks ago maybe even a little less I had a difficult time distinguishing between you and Wilek. I've gotten it sorted out now and I thought about telling both of you. I had decided to let it go, but now that I made this mistake I needed to come clean. So I sincerely apologize to both of you.

Niamhgold> <raised heck in Sal Anthony's on Mulberry street> What else did you do in NYC if you don't mind my asking? ^_^ <Wilek> I made a similar slip myself. I think Wilek is so popular we naturally want to say something to him regularly. Right Wilek? ;)

Shadowrider and Jannie> Last night I was checking out a bike on the street and a wave of euphoria (happiness, excitement, and anticipation all combined) washed over me. I felt like riding around right at that moment. Then I realized while I have all this great info about riding, I need to work on my riding ability. Do either of you have any suggestions on getting started? Also I'd love to hear how you first got in riding motorcycles. My bicycle riding skill is pretty bad. I imagine this will make learning a little more difficult. Won't it? I'm going to thank both of you in advance because I know you are going to give me great info. ^_^

*Winterwolf waves to all the CR dwellers and exits.*

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:07:37 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.107.223.newyork2.level3.net

Niahmgold > Here's a site that has transcribed scripts from most of the episodes. No guarantees on accuracy, though, since it's all based on how one person heard it. And as many of us know from watching the closed captions, sometimes even the folks who do transcribing all the time screw up.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:22:38 AM
IP: 98aab0dc.ipt.aol.com

** Niamhgold enters for a quickie **

Wilek: Oops :) Sorry about the name mix-up :0! That's a testament to the lack of sleep I've gotten...

Niamh needs some help: I need to find lines from the old Gargoyles episodes, but I don't feel like going through my old tapes (namely, because they're not labelled). Isn't there a page somewhere that has screenplays for the show? Or a page with quotes? I think I've seem one other than the episode synopses, but I can't seem to find them...


Niamhgold
Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:49:04 AM
IP: lac-flex212.ncia.net

Winterwolf> <<Actually I could also give you a nice cheat that gives you god mode and other goodies. Just don't use it on battle.net unless you want to upset some other players. ;)>> Well, I don't play multiplayer anyhow, so I'd be happy to hear it. Thanks. ^_^ <<Anyone else watch lightning?>> Lightning is a plague, upon man and machine alike. >:/

Mecord> <<It was so real I woke thinking I had blood on my hands. But, what can I say, he was about to shoot my best friends and all my blaster shots were deflected by his armor.>> Which might explain why Emperor Palpatine stormed out of the restaurant he and I and a group of friends were eating at in a recent dream of mine.

Aaron> <<If it opens "I see a red door and I want to paint it black" it's probably the old 'Stones tune. (Unless it's the GOB cover from the Stir of Echos soundtrack)>> The ID3 tag does mention someone named Gob...This is the version from The Devil's Advocate, if it helps. :) <<Which is odd, because I'm not usually much on Manson covers, but that one just fit the film so well.>> So true. Normally I can't stand Manson, but I really liked Sweet Dreams...

Gunjack> Marine rifle chant thing> OK, that's creepy...

Gside> <<Never saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail?>> No, and if that's the general tone of the humour...<<I know the Stones put it on "Through the Past, Darkly" (Greatest hits, vol 2 (I think))>> Ah; that explains why I've never found it (I stick mostly to the movie soundtracks section of the music store). :}

Warpmind> <<It's illegal, but nobody gives a damn anyway, right?>> That should be the official credo of the emulation community. ;) And I imagine there are a lot of us, me included, who are very relieved that these laws aren't as strictly enforced as they could be...

DPH> <<While, I'm on the subject of multiple email addresses, how many people have X email addresses that that he/she checks REGULARLY?>> Ehh...I'm sure I have at least 5 or 6, but I only check 1 with any regularity. :/

Spacebabie> <<My Grandmother came down to Orlando to see my brother's graduation, unforutnaly she fell, cracked her skull and needs stitches.>> Oh no! :( Hope she makes a full recovery from that...

Niamhgold> <<Wilek, I think my town should join yours as *New* Middle, Nowhere.>> Actually, that's Warpmind. :) Although my town could certainly qualify as well...This kind of thing is why I turned to www.gamecave.com...

**TD SPOILER**
<<Who's to say he and Pandora didn't start the gargoyle race?>> What about the gargoyles in ancient Egypt?
**END**

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, May 20, 2000 04:16:22 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

***Begin RP***
Flying at an altitude of 30,000 feet, Gasper kept the repulsorlifts steady as he glided from his recent meeting in Belgium. Approaching Minnesota, he turned on the news band, routing it to audio, and heard a small blurb on wolves. Thinking that killing an endangered species was horrible, he was already over Nebraska. As quick as the YT-1400 (a successor of the 1300 that was famous for spawning the Millenium Falcon) was, he still enjoyed the low speed flying to enjoy the countryside, or what he could see of it for that matter. Outside of the Colorado border now, a blip appeared on his sensors, one that he'd not seen for ages. With 2 years passed since many of the organizations of heroes and fighters had been destroyed, new groups had formed. SOme from the aptly named Independents Organization, and some that just blossomed out of nowhere. Checking the sensor grid, he localized the field outside of the Roswell, New Mexico. Knowing full well that the US had screwed up again on a project that was decades away from succeeding, he slowed his speed down to 50 knots and hour, and lowered the altitude to 11,500 feet. Checking the broadband frequencies on the comm, he heard the distress beckon, and immediately punched in the comm code to the LOF Complex.
"Control, this is *StormRunner*, I've got an SOS over New Mexico, and I'm going to go ahead and check out. I'll try to be in before supper. " With a squelch he heard the controller, and woman by the name of Lynn Minmei, answer.
"Control copies, be careful out there."
"Copy." And with that, he put his hand on the controls and lowered the ship into a low speed dive, coming in for a landing less then a mile from the transponder site. Checking his External Sensors one last time, he saw the mass bio readings, though only a few things were actually alive. Securing the cockpit, he locked in the auto Distruct Code in case of emergencies, and headed towards his weapon locker. Pulling out a large spear, greenish blue in color with animated swirling designs actually flowing inside the shaft, he collapsed it and made his way to the munitions locker, and pulled out a small hold out blaster. With 30 shots in the power cell, he would have to make everyone count. Making his way to the ramp controls, he lowered it, walking out into the blistering sun with a pair shades blocking the light damage to his eyes, but the weighted coat started him sweating. Lunging back to the ramp, he hung the coat up, and then started his walk back to the site of the transponder.
***END RP***

Evening. Just a quick thing to start me off in the RP (not Technology Saga, sorry), which I hope works out well.

Arch Wolf---I haven't heard about this, but whatever it is you heard, I'm sorry. It's not a true represenitive of Minnesota. I like Wolves, their pretty cool, and have their place in the order of thigns. TO kill them is wrong.

Gonna watch American Beauty now. Heard it's good, we'll just have to see.

That's about all I know. Enjoy the RP, can't wait to get more involved.

***BEGIN RP***

With over 3/4 of a mile under his belt, he started smelling death. A noticeable scent, even for as many battles as he'd seen, but Gasper was never one to love battle. Love for justice and good was another thing, and that he'd defend to the death.

Taking out a small pair of microbinoculars, he zoomed in around the site that the transponder was located, and zoomed in closer. Several bodies lie around it, some decapitated, some scorched. He put the small binoculars away as a laser bolt shot out at him, barely missing his right shoulder. Yelping, he half lunged half jumped to a rock formation for cover and instantly powered up his ki, charging to just under Super Sayian Level.

Though not a true sayain, through various events over the past three years, he'd developed a high powerlevel, but was still affected by the blaster bolts that were shooting at the front of the rock for a few seconds. They stopped just as suddenly as they started, and Gasper waited, ready for anything...

***End RP****

Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Saturday, May 20, 2000 02:47:11 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

*****Timedancer spoiler*****

Just a thought... When Payne returned to Brooklyn and Pandora, it was an hour later... And they never specifically said that they DIDN'T do anything... And Brooklyn is only human after all, so to speak... Who's to say he and Pandora didn't start the gargoyle race?

Also, the story says part of Loki was imbedded in Payne as soon as he started timedancing... Could it be that fragment of Loki was messing with his head, and thus his memories of common history and Nagasaki and such?

Just a couple of thoughts...

*****End Timedancer spoiler*****

Joxter the Mighty
Saturday, May 20, 2000 02:27:50 AM
IP: spider-tp082.proxy.aol.com

*Archwolf runs into the room. Just as he crosses the threshold, he begins a shift into his lupus form. He hits the hardwood floor on his belly, legs akimbo, and slides across the room, comming to rest infront of a new fireplace* Ah...great to be back from work and relaxing. Work tonight was interesting. About 10:30pm, I was called away from my riveting machine to goto our loading dock. I get there to find my supervisor looking into the lot outside. Turns out some people had dumped fuel oil in our loading area and were doing various other things, so my loader and I spent the next half hour walking a perimeter sweep armed with a heavy pry-bar. My loader had a Bowie knife with him, but he was waling elswhere. Nothing fun happened.

*Glares at anyone posting from Minnesota*
<<
The Minnesota legislature catering to the pressure exerted by
farmers and some hunters just passed a bill that calls for indiscriminate
wolf killing. The state is separated into two zones. The new
legislation,recently revised by the Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources, provides that any person who owns livestock, guard animals or
domestic pets may shoot a wolf if it is on or within one mile of his
property. It doesn't require that wolves be attacking livestock or pets.
The mere presence is justification enough for killing wolves. There's even
a provision in the bill that calls for implementation of a $150 dollar
bounty on wolves>> I know this is really not the place for this, but damn, people, what gives? There really is very little livestock loss to wolves. it is always blown out of proportion, and look at the result. My brothers and sisters now carry a price on their heads. *Angry snarling*

anyway.

**TD Spoilers**
Great ep. I was affraid there for a moment that it would turn out that Brooklyn and Pandora would be the parents of the gargoyle race...how would he have explained that to Sata, anyway? I am curious. The Clan that Pandora is headed to. Is that the clan that is going to become Clan Wyvern? If so, I would guess that we have met one of Brook's first ancestors. or not. who knows
**end**

ShadowRider>"Crummy"= Low Quality

Mec>Rant>I understand. Do I ever. I'm trying to do one thing with a few characters in a fic that I have mostly written, and they keep trying to do something else. They keep trying to do away with a character who has to be around for at least another 10 years. But no, they just can't wait. Sheesh.

Christine> recommend that he take his request for a letter of recommendation and shove it. I hope all things on the books go better than hoped for. Good Luck!

WinterWolf><<. Anyone else watch lightning? >>Yep. Sat out in my yard lastnight watching lightning dance from cloud to cloud. I should have gone in when a lightning bold hit a tree less than 150Meters away from me, but I didn't. No harm done.

Gasper>Which every RP you chose, welcome aboard.

**Begin RP***
The new ShadowWolf Stepped out of the umbra and into the real world. He dodn't know exactly where he was, but he saw his target was very near. Where he was, the shadows would conceal him so the elf and his group would not be able to see him easily, though one of the elves did look around as if he was searching for something. This would be fun. His master wanted the lead elf alive for some reason, but he didn't care what happened to the others. He sat and thought for a moment, considering his options. he saw that one of the members of the group was apparently a ghost. Hm.....he might be able to bind the spirit to something. That would be an action taken much later. Back to the main problem. Getting the elf away from his friends. easy. Play innocent. "Mecord? Help me!" The elf spun and looked toward the shadows. "Archwolf? What's wrong?" He started toward ShadowWolf's hiding place. "Its Winter! She is hurt." It was easy enough, ShadowWolf thought. It should have worked. The other person present, Warpmind, looked into the shadows. "Hold on, Mecord. There is only one person there" he wispered. ShadowWolf was getting, well, not nervous, but he didn't like what was going on. He had one option:Hit and fade. Without a sound, he rushed into the light and grabbed at the startled elf. He didn't get to him. Something hit ShadowWolf in the thigh. It shouldn't have stopped him, but the small dagger sticking out of the dar wolf's leg was enough to bring him to his knees just feet away from his target. "A-Archwolf?" Mecord looked at the werewolf. It was him, but it wasn't. The fur was the wrong color, and the eyes...they were the eyes of a cold-blooded killer. "Archwolf doesn't live here anymore." ShadowWolf realized why the dagger brought him down. It was poisoned. He passed out.
**End rp**

*Shakes head violently* Damn, Shad, get lost. Stay away. Don't need or want you around anymore..uh...sorry. gotta run. TOurnament tomorrow morning *loks at wall clock*Eeep! make that THIS morning. Laters all

Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Saturday, May 20, 2000 01:32:16 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-21.mcmurray.nb.net

Randomness: Greg just posted (essentially) complete details on gargoyle funerals. It wasn't too much different from TGS's Remebrance Ceremony.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, May 19, 2000 10:34:24 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*RObby bounds into the room*

Finally, I'm done with High School! Yipee! Well, except for that silly graduation ceremony in a week... Finally, three months to relax and do nothing!

No wait... I have a mentorship to go to every day now... Have to get a summer job... And I still have some Timedancer pictures to do, not to mention stuff to write... Hmm. So much for the vacation.

AH well, the theory is I can start posting regularly again now, yay!

Robby
Friday, May 19, 2000 10:16:55 PM
IP: spider-wm078.proxy.aol.com

Yeah, give me a day. I have some ideas on how to enter. I'll run them by you on a return mail. Cool? Later.

Gasper
MN, US
Friday, May 19, 2000 09:53:00 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Warpmind> <<I'll not bother changing that bit>>: I wasn't suggesting that, just that the second definition hadn't occurred to me.
<<after a samurai was defeated, his sword was often broken, to ensure it would not fall into another man's hands>>: They must have gotten lax on that during WWII for the officers. My grandfather managed to get away with two (only one scabbard though).

Winterwolf> <<Wilek> <he's already called Loki>>>: Sorry, I think that was me.

Niamhgold> <<Aced your finals and raised your GPA, eh?>>: I aced the courses, but have not a clue about how I did on my finals, though I assume I did marginally well.
<< May I ask what it is?>>: Since you asked so nicely, I have now achieved a GPA of 3.797
Enjoy your graduation.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, May 19, 2000 08:31:38 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

<Shadowrider enters and immediately reaches for a chair and slumps on it>
Sorry, but I had one of -those- days...luckyly, weekend is here, and I plan to spend at least part of it sleeping...

Some short replies.

Winterwolf:> You're always welcome for any info. I like a lot discussing about bikes, and I'm always glad to be of help. About muffler burns...I can assure you they are painful, and take a while to heal. A note about it: NEVER let small childrens play near your bike if you just stopped it after riding (and be very careful even if it is cold.)

TD:> (No spoiler, I think) Good story, as usual. A lot of interesting things. No strenght to tell more, maybe tomorrow.

Archwolf:> Thank you for wishing me good luck. Yes, I don't dislike military, though I'd preferred to join the Army by my choice...

Kyrin:> I'm sorry to leave too, but I'm sure I'll be back at least and it relieves me.

Coyote:> Yes, I wes referring to the MRC. I didn't know it to be true, thank you for telling me. It makes me wonder about some things...

Gunjack Valentine:> So it is the full original Creed? Thank you a lot, I'll read it carefully...those things have always fascinated me. Oh, and congratulations for your graduation!

Warpmind:> Oh, no, I understood what you meant, although I don't know the meaning of "Crummy". About the rest of your post about Norwegian Armed Forces, I think I understand. A situation like the one you described, though not so bad I think, is the reason of the current restructuring of Italian Armed Forces too. This reforms follows the lines you mention, a smaller but very more effective professional army instead of a larger draft one.

Mecord:> I thank you for your words. I'd prefer not to leave, but this choice is not mine...

Rodlox:> I'm not sure of it, but I think that Roman Republic and Roman Empire typical swords are about the same, meaning "gladia", single handed swords with a 60-cm blade and no guard on the held. About Byzantine empire...I admit I don't know.

Niamhgold:> I got your email. Thank you a lot for your compliments, but most of all for your corrections and suggestions. I'll answer in detail tomorrow (now I'm too sleepy to do anything), as well as sending you a further part. Oh, and good luck for your graduation!

Gotta go now, need some sleep before I begin to go crazy.

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, May 19, 2000 05:16:42 PM
IP: h255-22-153.mi2.albacom.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Oh, hi there. Don't mind the cat on my arm...it belongs to my neighbors, but it's only recently decided to get attached to _me_. And now...now, they're moving away **Sniff**

Lexy: I'm sorry you have to sell all your stuff! I'd take some of it off your hands, but I'm a little strapped for cash, as well.

Shadowrider: Finished the first part of your story. Check your E-mail for revisions and praise :)

Aarghh. Wilek, I think my town should join yours as *New* Middle, Nowhere. I went into three bookstores today, asked if they could order some graphic novel manga for me, and all of them asked "Graphic manga? Is that some parody off mangos?"

Aargh. And people wonder why I went online.

Congrats to those who have just finished finals, graduated, or been accepted to college :). I'm graduating in seven days, wee-hoo!

Gside: Nice! Aced your finals and raised your GPA, eh? May I ask what it is? :) My school is odd--it's ranked, but it doesn't compute GPAs.

Christine: Don't worry about being a lurker :) You deserve time working with your own success. Just don't forget us!

Adios, gang!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 04:44:44 PM
IP: lac-flex237.ncia.net

*Warpmind slides in.*

Stormy: Well, with a computer, I personally recommend utilizing the left hand for the PC keyboard, and the right for the flightstick. But, it's frequently a personal decision... oh, and for the record, I have never piloted an aircraft, anyway. Not even one of the model variety.

DPH: E-mail addresses? Sign me up for a (d).

Mecord: Nice, factual rant. :) A word of advice: slap'em, and threaten to drop a safe on'em. :) Oh, and that "welcome" bit, I figured it out. :)

And now, for your enjoyment: My Sword: the USMC Creed translated to a more medieval level, by Mecord Lein. :)

This is my sword. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My sword is my
best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life.

My sword, without me, is useless. Without my sword, I am useless. I must wield
my sword true. I must lunge faster than any enemy who is trying to kill me. I
must impale him before he impales me. I will...

My sword and myself know that what counts in this war is not the style we fight,
the noise of our parries, nor the war-cries we make. We know that it is the hits
that count. We will hit...

My sword is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a
brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories,
its guard, and its blade. I will keep my sword clean and ready, even as I am
clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God I swear this creed. My sword and myself are the defenders of my
country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.

So be it, until victory is mine and there is no enemy, but Peace.

Well, adios for now.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, May 19, 2000 04:38:28 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Warpmind>> That is: welcome as in "Your welcome for the inspiring RP that you thanked me for." Not welcome as in "oh hi there. I haven't seen you in a while even though you've been standing there talking tom me for three days."

Um, okay that last part was a little exagerated. *shakes head* I think I need a nap.

Mecord
Friday, May 19, 2000 04:20:13 PM
IP: usr24.mtwest.net

**The door slams open and lightning strikes outside, casting the elf at the door in an ominous silhouette**
<--this is how I feel today.

****Fanfic Writing Rant****
Stupid Humans! Why do they have to make everything so difficult? They were only supposed to meet with the main character not capture her. This whole scenario is getting way too complicated. I should be nearing the climax by now, but noo, I’m stuck in an encampment with uncooperative Humans. Just who’s writing this story anyway, me or them? Sometimes I wonder. They never do what I want them to do. Why, their interfering has nearly completely changed how it will end. I may even have to make a third part at this rate. Originally this was supposed to be one simple, short, and easy story not a trilogy of complexities. But I underestimated the cleverness of the bad guy, overestimated the good guys, and didn’t even factor in these annoying humans. Don’t even ask where the war came from, because I certainly didn’t plan on there being one. And WHAT is with this crystal?!! I didn’t put that into the original story. I didn’t even know it existed before today. I planned this story over two years ago and there certainly wasn’t any crystal then. Argh. Will nothing ever be simple again?
****End the Bemoaning Rant****

Warpmind>> Welcome. Check your E-mail if you haven’t already.

Bronx>> Hey welcome back. Haven’t seen you in a while.

DPH>> b. I have two E-mail addresses. One for the elf and one for the human. We check both frequently.

*Sniff* Man, it smells like a wet d…er, wolf in here. ;) By the way Winterwolf, thanks for the long distance call for Archwolf. :)

Christine>> Good luck on the book. Wow, when I get my book written I want a few pointers.

Gasper>> did you get my e-mail?

Shadowrider>> You take off in a month? *shudders* The military is just not for me, but you go and have fun with it. We’ll keep a seat empty for you for, eagerly waiting for your return. At least a year isn’t all that long.

*****RP*****

Okay maybe not, I have another story to tackle.

*****End pseudo-RP*****

Mecord
Friday, May 19, 2000 04:11:29 PM
IP: usr24.mtwest.net

I'm back again!

Caliope> I posted so fast I almost forgot to cheer for you. Congrats on finishing your finals! *Winterwolf carefully crafts an ice sculpture of Caliope in a corner of the CR. He encloses the sculpture in a cone of cold. "That should last a while."* ^_^

Fire Storm> So that didn't count as a post? :P Until later then.

Bronx> Hi Bronx! I see you are in TGIF mode. ;)

******BEGIN RP - TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Meanwhile back inside DPH's house Winterwolf began to train Jason Filler.

Looking over the ring DPH handed to him Winterwolf thought about how much Equus would probably want to tap the energy stored within. He decided to put it on his empty third pouch for now and hoped it would be unnoticed.

"Jason, I think the best way to enhance your abilities is to use them vigorously. It will be like working out your body. The more you do within reason of course the more you get out of the workout. The same is true with mental exercises." Jason nodded. "Okay now I want to work on multiple exercises. The ring is a tool but you will not need it while you practice. We will spar in your mind. I want you to concentrate on defending yourself. As you become more confident with your abilities you should attempt to attack as well."

"I don't think I'm ready for this! Can't you just show me how to use the ring?"

"I won't show you. I will teach you how to use your mind and this will allow you to learn how to use the ring."

"Yeah but…" Winterwolf waved his hand and Jason's body fell limp into the couch. Winterwolf adjusted Jason so he would be conformable when he got up. Winterwolf closed his eyes and prepared to enter Jason's mind.

In an instant Jason and Winterwolf were standing in a swirling cloud of chaos.

"We are inside your mind Jason. The fact that we will spar would give you an edge but your lack of discipline will give that edge to me. To do anything here you must think or visualize what you want to happen."

Jason took a defensive stance. "I guess I'm ready."

Winterwolf disappeared.

"Hey where are you?" Jason felt a strong leg crash into his shins sending him into the ground. "That's not fair! I can't see you!"

"Have you looked for me?"

Jason concentrated on seeing Winterwolf. He gasped when he saw a six and a half foot tall werewolf. "You don't look the same!" Jason quickly backed away from the werewolf.

"Don't you remember what DPH said when I asked what do I look like?" Winterwolf shot several blasts of energy at Jason.

Jason screamed as he tried to run away from the blasts. Each one arced and followed him. He instinctively put up his hands to protect himself. The blasts hit Jason and soak him with cold water.

"You're supposed to defend yourself! That could have killed you if it was a real blast. Remember, concentrate on what you want to happen."

"Can we take a break?"

"No breaks until you successfully defend."

The sparring match continued…

******END RP - TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Now I'm in weekend mode. I'm off to have fun outside the cyber world. O.O Everyone be free. Enjoy yourselves! ^_^

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, May 19, 2000 03:14:22 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

*presses pause on her tape, and runs in*

***Fraiser spoliers!!******
OMG!!! After years of giggles, and debating if Niles and Daphny would EVER get together.... wheeee!!!
****end***

Heh sorry I had to get that out of my system

Timedancer- I really enjoyed this week's episode, and the art was great =)

more laterz!

*turns on her tape again*

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 02:41:21 PM
IP: spider-th051.proxy.aol.com

Work is busy.

No time to lurk or post until later tonight.

L8R

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:59:40 PM
IP: dynamiccomp.com

New on my site:
Many more pics of the Dissidents and Avalon Clan, by Graymonk and Demona May. Also, a new Raven for the Obi-Wan site, by Dirce.
Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Sorry I haven't had much to say ... been lurking mostly. Work on the new novel is going well; I figure I am about 1/4 of the way through now and things are starting to fall together. In a way, it _feels_ like I'm writing fanfic because so far The Gifted includes Aiden, Judge, Inge, Chris St. John, and Gustav Sevarius' alter ego ; )

Book stuff > of all the cheek ... after the shoddy treatment I have received from Sterling House, one of their editors who left the company just wrote to me asking for a letter of reference! :P

Other book stuff > Dark of the Elvenwood is ready to go to the printer the _second_ we get the delayed foreword from John Kovalic; I found out the other day that he is indeed doing what I hoped but didn't dare ask ... he's _drawing_ something for me! Eeee! I can hardly wait to see it, and it should be done anytime! Eeeee!

Anyway, I'm still around, just distracted.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:15:49 PM
IP: 07-133.009.popsite.net

*Water drips from Winterwolf's wet fur as he walks into the room. Not seeing anyone around he shakes himself off vigorously. Hopefully nobody was lurking in the shadows. He gets the mop out of the closet and dries the floor. Then he heads to the towel rack and takes a towel to finish drying himself off. When finished he puts the towel around his neck. He returns the mop to the closet and takes one umbrella from the basket filled with umbrellas. "I knew I shouldn't have left all of them over here."*

Hi everybody. I was out in the rain yesterday and this morning. I saw plenty of lightning last night. It was mesmerizing. I watched it for 15 - 20 minutes. Anyone else watch lightning? Hey DPH all your lightning summoning is going to hurt my eyes. ;)

Archwolf> Welcome back. It's good to see you again. I howled for you partially on Mecord's behalf. The other reason was there seemed to be a shortage of wolves in the CR. ^_^

Gasper> I had to tell you I just got my hands on a Chrono Trigger mp3. Sounds pretty good. Reminds me of the game. I think I should edit it to remove the applause at the end. <RP> I'm pretty sure you are welcome to join either RP. I extend my welcome to the one I'm currently involved in. If DPH agrees I can write you in immediately. Of course you should choose the RP that you find most interesting. I don't foresee you having any difficulty going either. Personally I find both entertaining.

Caliope> <no control on the TV> Ack! This is a very cruel form of torture. :( <Nerdity test> Kyryn was the one who found the nerdity test. I just reposted it to make it easy to get at. ^_^ Here it is again - http://www.frontiernet.net/~jbennett/nerd/

******TD SPOILER******

This is a truly great episode! I'm happy to see Pandora again. This was probably one of the more difficult relationships Brooklyn had to work out since he mated with Sata. Unlike when he was reunited with Meryt there was a problem (namely Meryt's condition) keeping them from doing more then reminiscing. Not to forget the fact that Sata was there. ;)

Wilek> <he's already called Loki> That's a good possibility. I like that thought. It works. Well he can call me Loki since he came up with it himself. Also, Payne gaining some of Loki's powers is a very interesting development.

DPH> <Pandora being the first gargoyle> Payne is definitely wrong on this count. It is interesting how it adds pressure to Brooklyn. Well if she is the first gargoyle then it is your duty to get her pregnant TimeDancer. :) I think the numbers implies the order of things. First race - Gargoyles. Second race - Humans. Third race - Fay.

******TD SPOILER******

DPH> What no A? ;) I'm between B and C. It depends on your definition of regularly. B if we are talking almost every day (at least 5 days out of 7). C if regularly is once a week. G only if regularly is you created the account and used it a couple of times (more than once). :D

I'll be adding RP a little later today.

*Winterwolf darts out of the room on all fours.*

Winterwolf - [swinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:03:42 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

The Troll has graduated! of course during the lon speeches I was sort of hoping for some politcal figure to turn into a giant snake...At least give me something to do, No it couldent be our Mayor..she is more like Maggie Walsh.

After the ceremony we headed to Bahama Breeze, another restuaraunt you might want to attend if yopu enjoy getting "jerked" around

Bad news.... My Grandmother came down to Orlando to see my brother's graduation, unforutnaly she fell, cracked her skull and needs stitches. She's in the hospital right now and apparenty they run the hospitals down here the way they run them where Sevarius Jr. lives, Hopefully she will be well enough soon.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:02:06 PM
IP: user-37kap21.dialup.mindspring.com


SWORD QUESTION!:
what difference is there between swords of the Roman Republic, Roman Empire, and Byzantine Empire?

thanks.


Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail]
Friday, May 19, 2000 12:29:26 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Caliope:
*stepping over the "MonaLisa"*
I'm sorry Cali!

I didn't mean to knock over TODD's statue!... I said I'd pay for it!! :(
some day... ;P

And HEY! I check this place once in a while! ^_^
I was waiting to see whenu'd answer me! :P

U really liked the Bunny Wars page!?!??!?! ^_^ oooh!
teehee! me so happy!
I hope u'll like it even more now!

I added the "Other Characters" page!
it shows Announcer 1.0 & 2.0 and our pets:
the Ordinary Monkey
Flying Pig
Babbit

(Anyone else interested in seeing what we're talking about?... GO TO MY PAGE NOW!!!) O_O

I still have to add Victor, and a guest book for everyone whos been reading the RP.
I'll get to that! ^_^

oka! later honey!! ^_^

*runs over the MonaLisa*
hey.... was that important..... naaaah! :P

bye!


Alex Destine
Friday, May 19, 2000 12:26:42 PM
IP: 196-28-48-98.prtc.net

As usual, the link on my name takes the person to the archive of Battle for Technology Saga. If the archive gets growing, one of these days it going to be bigger than the comment room at max size.

Caliope, you have my sympathies as I understand your situation.

**TD SPOILERS (things I overlooked)**
Hmm. So that's the origin of genies. If my guesses are right, I think I might be able to connect a few dots here and there across the timeline. Still, I'm confused about the origin of gargoyles. Surely, Payne is wrong about Pandora being the 1st female gargoyle. But then, I get to which came first: chicken or egg question.
**END TD SPOILERS**

**NBC STUFF**
Ok, if you imply by not being on the schedule the show is cancelled, yes the show is cancelled. But on the front door it didn't say the Pretender was cancelled. Same goes for Profiler. BTW, is Pretender carried on any other network in syndication? I thought I saw Profiler carried in syndication on WB, but it may be my local carrier.
**END NBC STUFF**

I wonder if the spam will show up at my new email address after I stop checking the old one.

While, I'm on the subject of multiple email addresses, how many people have
b)2 email addresses
c)3 email addresses
d)4 email addresses
e)5 email addresses
f)6 email addresses
g)more than 6 email addresses
that that he/she checks REGULARLY? I just wanna make sure that I'm not overdoing it with answer f.

**ONLINE JOB SEARCH RANT**
I went to one place on search for jobs and that place had entries from another place. Too bad none of the places I visited let me use my own resume, but on the other hand, it may look better than mine. The next dumb question why are there some online places that let you look for jobs. Why can't there be only upto 3 spots? I mean if there are fifty spots out there, is every employer going to post job wanted ads at every spot? No, so I have to go out to every spot there is because I don't know which websites happened to be the ones someone picked. Now, if someone has a better idea how to search for jobs online and not miss one, tell me.
**END JOB SEARCH RANT**

**XENA/HERCULES DEBATE**
The theology is mixed up. You have gods and goddesses for each region. Why don't gods and goddesses visit each other more often? More importantly, how are each regions gods/goddesses related to anothers? More importantly, why version of the creation is correct? Some of them contradict each other. Frankly, I don't think the writers of Hercules/Xena thought the theology issue all the way through; they just used bits and pieces here to make a good story.
**END HERCULES/XENA DEBATE**

Wow, this is one of my longest posts yet.

**BEGIN Battle for Technology Saga**
"ITAG had a run in with this biker gang," said Plastique Saber.

"So the gang is aware of mutants. Is this biker gang aware of the 3rd race?" asked DPH.

"Not as such. The gang thinks they are just more mutants. What do you have in mind to do to the gang?" replied Plastique Saber.

"Use their prejudice against them. Arrange for them to shoot at a cop due to an illusion spell that only affects certain people. What did you have in mind?" asked DPH.

"A little more fun than that. You arrange for some in-fighting while I convert their bike tires into stone. BTW, I heard you had some damage on the underside of the car. How did you get it fixed?" replied Plastique Saber.

"Simple, Magic. I do some assignments for them from time to time. I heard about you through ITAG. Does ITAG keep a 24 hour watch on me?" asked DPH.

"No, someone just happened to catch your car falling out of a portal. I get paid $250-$400 per hour for my assignments. What about you?" asked Plastique Saber.

"Same salary. I just one special thing. Nobody accept ITAG knows that I'm working on an assignment until I get there. If someone knows I'm coming, they can take precautions against my powers. I know I usually handle situations where the employer is severely outnumbered. What kind of assignments do you handle?" replied DPH.

"Cost effective ones. Scenarios where the cost of ammo outweighs my salary or scenarios where bait is neccessary. I can act as a short-term shield to projectile weapons because I can convert whatever hits me into useless gases." replied Plastique Saber.

Suddenly a member of the Speed Racers spots Plastique Saber in DPH's car.

"Guys, we have a mutant alert." yelled the member.

The Speed Racers quickly grab their weapons and surround DPH'S car.

"Great, I've been spotted and you've been branded." said Plastique Saber.

"Well, are there any non members around?" asked DPH.

"Yep," replied Plastique Saber.

"Darn. I didn't want to expose either of us to the general public as mutants. I'll use an illusion spell to let us escape." said DPH. "Darn, they're to close to the car to make the illusion work."
END Battle for Technology SAGA for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 11:48:38 AM
IP: max1-59.cwy.cei.net


Stormy&everyone else: if any of you would like plausible aliens made, feel free to ask me...i'd be happy to help out.

thanks.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail .com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 11:41:25 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Hello!!!!!! ^_~

Spike> Your so lucky you get to go to A-Con! Just a little questing...what was a klingon doing at an anime convention?! :P Have fun anyways!

ALEX!!! You mean evil girl!!!! *runs right over the MonaLisa* You knocked over Todd's statue!!! :P Yes, I very much enjoyed the kodocha tapes and I MUST, yes MUST! See what happens next!!! Or I might Die or something....why am I writing this, you proabably wont even read it!!! Oh, by the way, good job on your bunny page!!! :P

Winterwolf> Yes, naughty evil comp indeed! And I'm finaly done with finals!!!...Now I need a job tho, so it might not be quite a summer vacation this summer, but at least I wont be the brokest monkey ever!!! :P Have a nice summer you too! :) Oh, and where did you get that Nerdity Test? Now I'm curious :P

I didnt get to see Buffy and Angel this week! A negative side effect to having finished my clases is that I move back home and at home, daddy is control comando, and he doesnt enjoy those shows:P

Eep! gotta go, taking my bro school book shpoing! I'll see ya guys! *HUGZ for all*

Caliope
Friday, May 19, 2000 11:08:36 AM
IP: 136.145.70.210

Taleweaver: What you're describing sounds a lot like the gliding center's *sick minds OFF* PENETRATION APPROACH, only over water.

Penetration Approach is where you dive for the ground, then pull back on the stick, allowing your speed (picked up in the dive) and the lesser wind resistance near the surface to carry you for a long glide.

It is also not recommended as, if anything goes wrong (like obstacles, need to turn, etc) you have no altitude for maneuverability, and you can't really control how long your glide will be...you're at the mercy of circumstances.

We don't do it over water though, but it's much the same thing.

Ok, *sick minds ON*

Warpmind: Wait a sec, better leave sick minds OFF a while longer.

"left hand on the stick..."

What's sick about that? It's the appropriate way to fly a small plane. Left hand on the stick, right hand on the throttle. ;)

Ok, NOW sick minds ON.

Coyote: If you're interested...I remember a while ago you granting permission to use the Rokkans in my fic. Well, they're (briefly) in a Transformers fic called STAR CRUISER...click to see. Thanks--it was easier than inventing my own aliens.

Mara: You WANT into the Addams Family? You want, every time you pass the funeral home, to hear my father look in and say, "OOh, what's playing tonight?"

and, if there's two folks lying in state, my responding crack, "Looks like a double feature."

While my mom tries to pretend she's an unwilling hostage in the car ;)

Well, I'm off again, so, until we merry meet again...

Stormy - [decepticoncommand@hotmail.com]
Friday, May 19, 2000 10:58:11 AM
IP: 137.149.136.119

*Warpmind enters, followed by three very hung over chibis.*
Sheesh, these three chibis o' mine seem to have had a lot of fun on the Seventeenth. While it *is* celebrated over all of Norway, you'd think they'd keep Benjamin away from the strong stuff for a while longer... :|

Wilek: Twenty bucks at funcoland, plus shipping, plus electronics import taxes, plus the game Chronotrigger is damn hard to come by around here... nah, I'll emulate. On the other hand, I've seen a *lot* of RPGs for the SNES that I want, so... *ponder* Nope; I'll emulate. It's illegal, but nobody gives a damn anyway, right? As for the gamepad thing, well, I grew up using keyboards; I played very few console games, so I guess it's an acquired taste... And where those laws are concerned, well, I think he's already long gone, but I appreciate your idea. :)

Shadowrider: You misunderstand me: the Norwegian soldiers have to work; it's the military standards that are low. I'm tellin' ya, we've got about 600000 soldiers running around with outdated field equipment, rations that expired around the time of WWI, and no proper hand-to-hand training. If we had a volunteering system like the US, we'd have a very small, but quite likely a highly efficient military force. Ninth of April 1940 was NOTHING compared to what might happen today, I tell you!

David G: Actually, I think the tonfas were derived from a tool similar to the pickaxe... not sure though; I've got a friend with a red belt in Tae Kwon Do, and who also studies Okinawa Weapons privately; he ought to know. And by the way... long bow? Those things are HEAVY! Gimme a few darts dipped in tetrodotoxin any day. ]:)

Mecord: Grazie; it helped. Now, if my chibis would only sober up... *Talon stumbles off and starts snoring in the corner* well, I guess I'd be more creative then... :|

Kyryn: Sai used for real combat would be sharpened? How? Sharpened like a pencil (pointy tip), or sharpened like a sword (sharp edge along the entire center spike)?

Lexy: A full-size Goliath? Gah! Why must I be so accursedly broke? *Goes of and gibers in a corner for a moment.*

Gunjack Valentine: Ooo, I like that creed... think you could work out something similar for swords? :)

Gside: Oh, *that* was what you meant... I see your point; but I'll not bother changing that bit. :)

Toku Kaioto: Good comments on the katana. It is a weapon made for showing off, not for long, drawn-out duels. :) (And the fact that they're fairly easy to break is the reason why there are so few authentic katanas left - after a samurai was defeated, his sword was often broken, to ensure it would not fall into another man's hands. Do note that this does not hold true in every case, such as in my fanfic series.)

Well, that's about it, except for...

**RP**
Warpmind ignored any objections from Mecord and Senthet, and leapt over to where Beelzebub was currently hovering.
"Yo, Beelzebub!"
The giant slug glared down at Warpmind.
"What do you want, mortal? I'm in a foul mood today, so speak quickly."
"There's some great Hellish energy focus on Earth, controlled by Mephisto. Where is it?"
"Why would I reveal that to you?"
"I am the Realmsfarer, authorized by Great Lord Lucifer himself! I report to no lesser demons! Would it not be worth it to tell me, so Mephisto gets another notch on his record?"
Beelzebub thought it over.
"Very well, Realmsfarer. I can transport you there at once."
"Hold on, there are a couple of persons who must come along."
Beelzebub sighed.
"Very well."
Fetching Mecord and Senthet, Warpmind prepared for the dimensional transfer. As the little gateway was opened, a single soul leapt in with them. Then, the portal closed, and the human, the two elves, and the ghost arrived on Earth, somewhere. Mecord looked around.
"Where are we?"
Warpmind looked at the ghost.
"More importantly: you're SJ, aren't you? Your form seems familiar; I met your body already."
**RP END**

SJ: Hope you don't mind me bringing you out like that. :)

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, May 19, 2000 08:42:20 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Wow, life’s been busy as of late … been a while since I’ve posted anything in here. Now’s as good a time as any.

Xena issues: Yeah, this series is warped.

Cassandra:
<<But when they introduced Christian concept of God and Satan and made it higher than all the other gods, I lost what respect I had for the show(s). Instead of sticking to a universal big picture of many different religions and faiths and gods depending on what the mortals believed in, they (writers/producer/whoever made the decision) had to throw in Christianity and Eli (who is their version of Jesus without the cross) and make it BETTER than everything else. So it is the only true way to go.>>

Actually, from what I watched of Xena, they never really introduced Christianity heavily. I think the liked to toy around with some of the Christian Mythos here and there, and allude to the events that Christians would later use in constructing their scripture. Most of the “Powers that Be” stuff was necessarily faceless, refusing to indicate anything tangible otherwise. About all that they did was decide their was Something(s) above the soap-opera human trash that made up the bulk of their version of the Greek Pantheon. The entire Xena and Herc theme tended to be more or less, “The gods are spoiled brats,” so they weren’t really knocking on anyone by putting them further down on the pecking order. As it is, the show portrays the human Hercules and Xena as superior to the gods in the first place. *shrugs*

The vagueness they used kept things noticeably “What-if” enough for me to deal with. The mono-theism addressed in the show has been almost exclusively Hebrew and Jewish, as evinced by Gabriel running with the Star of David/Seal of Solomon tattooed to her chest. Also, Eli himself seems a Christ-figure only really in the sense that Christ walked the same role as dozens of others before him in the Old Testament as a Prophet. I do believe Eli was actually a real Hebrew / Israelite Prophet.

People all too often just assume that Christianity has a monopoly on anything that remotely resembles or relates to Christ’s life .

<<I have real problems when people start preaching there is only "one" way to lead a good and moral life.>>

You know, so do I, but don’t you hate it when people turn around and try to turn the tolerant view into some sort of wishy-washing relativist drivel? The modern media and liberal factions all over are so busy trying to do this whenever they are blatantly trying to persecute all the Jews, Christians, Moslems, and Wiccans they can find.


As much as I don’t like to give credence to anyone’s (especially my own) impulses to claim they have a 12-step program to moral perfection, I’d have to point out an inconsistency most people overlook. Some religions claim pretty plainly that everyone who doesn’t agree with them is going to be damned or something. Then we have people who try to be counter-cultural in the religious mode, arguing a neat package of relativism, that everyone can be right and that it is good to treat all religions as equals. The only problem with that is that it makes the intolerant just as legitimate and “Right” as everyone else.

I think people have a irrefutable right to prioritize and decide for themselves what religion is most accurate or correct. That means that they will very well decide that everyone who disagrees with them is wrong, and you have to cope with that too. They are entitled to that opinion. Charles Manson was also entitled to his opinion on the subject, for all it counted for anything.

My own beliefs are in a Diety that is accepting of persons reverent to a Greater Good, rather than a particular dogma. Because of This, I view those who decide that “non-believers” are damned or evil are themselves conclusively and definitively mistaken and wrong. I don’t think that their belief in the damnation and condemnation of those who disagree with them is just as legitimate as my belief in tolerance and diversity. However, I recognize that this is a value judgment, and I’m ready to accept it as such. I’m not saying THEY are the ones going to Hell for being wrong. I’m just saying that I’m right, and they are wrong, and I’m not going to pretend to be saying anything different.

I have my reasons, but I don’t need to convert anyone to thinking like me just now. If I did, I’d probably use drugs and shock-therapy and all manner of efficient brain-washing techniques. I just don’t see the need to get all evangelical about religion in particular. That’s probably just a hold-over from my “I-just-don’t-give-a-damn-about-you” period. Either that or it is just an over-developed sense of etiquette. ^_^

I don’t make up any illusions about being about to get away with not judging anyone or letting all religions be equal. I do make my own personal value judgments in order to decide what works for me. That necessitated prioritizing, evaluating, and examining my options in religion itself.

I have a lot of respect for many branches of Shamanism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintao, and others.

I don’t have any respect self-worship or religions of most stereotypically “evil” persuasion (involving the glorification of victimizing people, defiling the innocent, and inflicting malicious pain on others.)

As for what I'll do based on my beliefs ...

I'll favor tolerance over the damnation crowd by standing against those who deam themselves "right" in burning others at the stake as "heritics." That in itself requires a value judgment to act upon. As for more peaceful circumstances, I'm a life and let live sort of fellow who loves a good, even-tempered discussion every once in a while.

It is a judgment. Life is full of judgments. People will judge you all your life. There are a LOT of people in my generation now that I see out there was just throw Hissyfits any time anyone judges what they do. I saw some really trashy talk-shows the other day with 13 year olds who were insisting on getting pregnant and realized just how pathetic the whole “who are you to judge me / you can’t judge me / you don’t know who I am” defense really has become.

Grow up. Get real. Cope.

What is really the issue is what opinions count in what circumstances, and also WHY you hold your own opinions. As with the case on these talk shows, we can often find that the main reason we hold at least a few of our opinions are because we have our heads up our asses, especially as kids, depressives, and rebellious, know-it-all teens.

Blessed be the people who were charitable enough to come into my own life with the jaws of life more often than I can count.


Weapons Discussion:

Well, as much as a katana is a highly favored weapon for RPGers of GURPS, WoD, and Anime-style worlds, it isn’t a very practical weapon in the grand scheme. Its real strength in these games comes from its cinematic value and presence.

The fact of the matter is that a Katana is too big and clumsy to make a decent hold-out subject, despite what you see on “Highlander.” You can’t carry it in active public without getting noticed by someone. As for public transit, just forget about it.

In comparison to the slower, clumsier broadsword type weapons, the katana is far more elegant, but sadly it is a mid-ranged weapon that doesn’t do anything a sword should do to the BEST of the field. A heavy, cutting blade needs to be able to penetrate armor. Even the layered wood and bamboo armor that was found common in the East was enough to turn a katana blade. Japanese duelists and peasant levies didn’t wear armor, which is why they got cut down by katana’s. Samurai didn’t fight other samurai in the battlefield in armor if they could avoid it. In those rare sorts of situations, the brutal Tetsubo did a lot more than a sword. Also, the heavy, club-like broadsword, axe, and tetsubo snapped the legendary katana clean in half sometimes if the sword was used to parry. Against European plate and chain armor, the Katana is hopeless unless you can stab or hit a vulnerable gap.

Even a very good katana has a hard time with the human skull. There is a pretty fair chance of surviving a katana blow to the skull, and a much better chance of damaging your sword or getting it stuck. The big deal with Katana’s cutting though several humans has to do with the fact that they are blowing through soft tissue and through the separations of vertibrae in the spine on the way through.

That leaves the opposite side of the coin though, speed. The katana is a lot faster than the broadswords, but not fast enough. Still a heavy steal blade, the katana has only one edge and relies on a powerful, clean cut to be effective. The epee and rapier just out-class the katana when it comes to speed. They don’t hit as hard, though. However, the fencing and swash-buckling weapons are just more efficient in killing un-armored opponents. The lunge or stab is far more controlled and speedy than the great-cut of the katana.

Musashi figured out a strong advantage in this rather early in his career and favored the use of a wooden sword or bokken when dueling. Lighter, the bokken swung a lot faster and allowed more wrist-based control of strikes. In a duel, a firm strike to the head with a blunt, hardwood sword was just as effective as the edged blade. Same deal with the ribs or the arm. Duels were won by the first person to make a clean hit, because the advantage was so severe the opponent couldn’t recover before he was finished off. Musashi knew this and exploited it ruthlessly, cutting down opponents armed with cold steel with impunity.

So, in the end, a weapon is either realistically practical, or cinematically effective. Practical weapons are just tools. Pick the tool that is best for the job in your hands out of what is available. Sometimes it’ll be a gun, sometimes a pole-arm, sometimes a bar-stool, often times your own body. Of course, having to use a weapon for practical reasons is generally Bad News and is a situation to be avoided whenever possible.

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Friday, May 19, 2000 03:05:40 AM
IP: bsg-ma-cache2.icg.net

Gasper>> I couldn't sleep so I sent that E-mail already.

G'NIGHT ALL!
**Mecord is hit with many pillows of those trying to sleep.**

Mecord
Friday, May 19, 2000 03:03:51 AM
IP: usr16.mtwest.net

CtB> <<how does a simple name like "Don" get mangled>>: Have you ever wished your middle name was Juan, so you could say "I am a real Don Juan"?
<<my handle... comes from when I marched in the band when I would howl during the band's parade cadence>>: You got yours from the band, I got mine from the team (and then switched over to band). Though my latest band nickname might be good for getting the girls...

**SPOILER** The new episode was pretty good, though I was a little lost about the dream.
People wondering about Loki's name: It's my theory that really was his anme, then told Payne to call him that because he was comfortable with it and since Payne didn't know it was his true name, it didn't give him any power over Loki.**/SPOILER**

Welcome back Gunjack. I think I still have a *.pls in my directory, in case you missed anything you might want.
<<got accepted to college>>: Congratulations. If I may ask, which one?

Warpmind> <<the dual meaning of warp being overshadowed by the mind part>>: Sorry, that's not what I meant. It seems overshadowed by the "de Inzane."

Wilek> <<<blink> Never mind, I'm better off not knowing>>: Never saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
<<but I've never seen [Paint it Black] on CD>>: I know the Stones put it on "Through the Past, Darkly" (Greatest hits, vol 2 (I think))

David G.> <<_I_ would prefer to take out an armored warrior with a sword by using a long bow>>: Ahh, Agincourt. And Bill wrote up such a nice pre-battle speech for Henry.

Welcome back Archwolf.

Mandolin> <<The replacement series, "C.S.I." doesn't look bad - it focuses on forensic investigators>>: Quincy neuveau?

CtB> <<This is my saxophone. There are many like it, but this one is mine ...">>: Sounds about right, expecially since (in my uneducated opinion), saxes are much more personalized (or unique (not sure which is better)).

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:42:44 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Sounds good to me Mecord. I'll await your e-mail.
Gasper
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:18:21 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Gasper>> Hmm, I'll E-mail you a little more info about the RPs going on in here. Keep an eye out, probably friday afternoon, tomorow sometime.
Mecord
Friday, May 19, 2000 01:09:35 AM
IP: usr16.mtwest.net

Coyote><<Shadowrider, I assume that you're referring to the Marine Rifle Creed when you talk about the prayer over the guns. It wasn't just created for the movie ... there *really* is a Marine Rifle Creed ... wish I could remember the whole thing, but the only part that stuck out for me was "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.">>

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life.

My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than any enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...

My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...

My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life

So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but Peace.

-My Rifle: The Creed of a United States Marine



Gunjack Valentine
Friday, May 19, 2000 12:38:14 AM
IP: nas-48-41.dallas.navipath.net

Mecord---------Either one, what are my choices? I know I've seen that Battle for Technology one, and I've read about that Black Ravens thing, so I'm not sure, but I'm willing to participate in either if you'll have me.
Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:02:08 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Just a quickie post. (As if that's possible for me)
**RP RELATED**
Finally updated the archive through to the last post. Hopefully, the colors on the page are coordinated. If not, email me.
**END RP RELATED**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 09:52:15 PM
IP: max1-51.cwy.cei.net

Those of you who aren't sick of hearing about Battlefield Earth yet, click my name for one of the more entertaining reviews. =)
Wilek
Thursday, May 18, 2000 09:52:06 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

D/FW Folks listen up!
Got some interesting Bob Larson news to report..

As you know, Bob is this second rate crooked televangelist, and that me and several other folks online have made a hobby out of annoying the crap out of.

Well, this week has been a real stinker for Bob. Tuesday Inside Edition ran this expose' on him. This was the first time Bob's ever gotten major media exposure, and Bob is trying to play damage control.

Unfortuneatly, that involves getting on local radio, specificly on KYNG 105.3 here in Dallas. When Bob gets on the air tomorrow, he's gonna find himself in the hot seat. It's going to be really hot because a bunch of us "Bob Larson Fan Club" members live right here in Dallas! Plus I've been e-mailing all the folks around who've pranked Bob on his show, and the chance to get at Bob away from his panic button is just too tempting to pass up!

So everyone here in D/FW, I'd recommend tuning into the Russ Martin show tomorrow morning, I'm sure it's going to be a bit of great radio :)

Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, May 18, 2000 08:52:10 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-40.ultravision.net

**stumbles in** Still hurting from using the rollerblades ... just in for a couple quickies.

Full Metal Jacket: Shadowrider, I assume that you're referring to the Marine Rifle Creed when you talk about the prayer over the guns. It wasn't just created for the movie ... there *really* is a Marine Rifle Creed ... wish I could remember the whole thing, but the only part that stuck out for me was "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine."
(mainly because a section shirt from college that I have has, believe it or not, a *filk* on the Marine Rifle Creed printed on it ... "This is my saxophone. There are many like it, but this one is mine ...")

XenaTrek: **nods** Indeed. Though it's not too hard to figure out. Oh, incidentally, the middle name (in the true Spanish form) would be spelled "Alejandro," but I think when I sign my name I'm just gonna stick with "A." Mainly because it makes me look kinda like an actor ... ;)

**ducks the groans as he shuffles out**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, May 18, 2000 06:58:57 PM
IP: 216.28.101.141

Just had this thought, and had to get it out.
Web sites that parents would not want their kids to visit,
"brocken.gov, and unseelie.org".

Had to get it out before I lost it.:)

Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 06:45:26 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp88.fltg.net

****TGS SPOILERS****

Nor Iron Bars A Cage: Excellent episode, it was great to finally see what happened with Pandora, even if it was not entirely explained. Payne gaining some of Loki's power seems to be an interesting plot twist. I do wonder, though, how anyone knew Loki's name if he only gained it days before he was trapped in the gate. The illustration was great.

****END SPOILERS****

Gunjack Valentine> Welcome back!

Sevarius Jr.> I hope things go well for your dad.

Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, May 18, 2000 06:44:09 PM
IP: dial-174.ocis.net

**RP RELATED**
Originally, I was going to take out all technology, but then I realized that I didn't want to have nuclear waste around in this universe. So, right now, all COMMUNICATIONS technology is non-functional in Battle for Technology Saga. But don't worry, eventually all technology will be non-functional in a limited area in Battle for Technology Saga. If anyone has a better name for the saga, let me know. 3 rps in the same room? How will I be able to tell the other two rps apart?
**END RP RELATED**

**TD SPOILERS**
Hmm. Interesting relevations about Loki. But how did uhh Oberon's brother find out about the name. Now, I'm more confused. How long occured between Brooklyn's trip to Atlantis and Brooklyn's 1st encounter with Pandora? If that gives away too much info, don't tell me. Excellent story, as usual. It's nice to have continuity in the TD stories.
**END TD SPOILERS**

I talked to a career counselor yesterday and finally got (what I believe) a decent resume. I just hope the improved resume helps me get the job I want.

I have 3 kittens: a black and white one, white, and yellowish tan one. Yesterday, all three of them (at different times) climbed up a tree to a point where I couldn't pick them up (I'm pretty tall).

**BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA continues**
"No problem. Here's the keys to my house." DPH replied as he handed Winterwolf a set of keys. "You take Stable Operating System. Hopefully, SOS will be a nice visit."

"In that case, I'll be going with you, DPH. We have some business to discuss." said Plastique Saber.

"Yes, we do. One thing Winterwolf, how did you end up with those bruises at my front door?" said DPH.

"A biker gang calling themselves Speed Stars challenged me to race on my way here in order to keep my bike ..." said Winterwolf.

"Hmm. The Speed Stars. They will wish they never bothered you. Here's the special ring I made for Jason Filler." interrupted DPH as he handed Winterwolf the ring.

"Plastique Saber, let's go." continued DPH.

DPH and Plastique got into DPH's car and he started off to a park in town where the Speed Stars frequented. DPH parked the car at the park.
**END BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 05:00:29 PM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

Now that I've finally gotten over it... and I have NEVER been so crushed by the news of a cancelled show before...

It is official - CBS cancelled "Now and Again." They were going to renew it, BUT since they were terrified that the NAACP would give them hell, they gave the slot to "City of Angels." However, they only ordered 13 eps of that series, and the fans are pushing for the following possibilities:

1) CBS picks up N&A as a mid-season or mid-fall replacement.
2) They at least do some kind of TV-movie to resolve that damn cliffhanger.
3) FOX picks the show up as a mid-season.

It frankly depends on what the production company is trying to do. I'd honestly be happy if CBS opted for the TV movie, just to resolve that ending. The mailing list is still waiting for word on what the producers are doing.

The replacement series, "C.S.I." doesn't look bad - it focuses on forensic investigators - but it also doesn't look like anything special. Unlike N&A, however, it has the benefit of a strong lead-in... assuming the name recognition of "The Fugitive" will draw viewers in.

*sigh* I'm no longer a wreck over this anymore - thank goodness - but this hurt. This really hurt.

Mandolin
Thursday, May 18, 2000 04:31:00 PM
IP: imacache.iximd.com

*************ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!***************************

I'm sorry. I went through my stuff again and decided I dont mind parting with my Tenchi stuff either. I have quite a few cards for this series. I also noticed I have some laminated Pokemon cards if anyone is intersed in discriptions Email me Thanks!!
************************************************************

Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 04:14:05 PM
IP: spider-tm081.proxy.aol.com

Archwolf> It's good to be a gargoyle. Healing stone sleep is a nice racial (or do I mean species-al?) trait. Takes care of minor problems that could be major ones for humans, like having a cut get infected.

Wilek Nereus> I've had a thing about lightsabers ever since I saw "Return of the Jedi" (original run) in the theaters when I was 7. Say what you will about Ewoks but Luke facing down the speeder bike is still COOL! <G> In the Star Wars RPG, the slang term for lightsaber was Universal Cutting Tool shortened to UCT. A little lower on the cool scale was Qwi-Gon using his as a can opener in the beginning of "Phantom Menace".

Rodlox> Ranting about Hercules/Xena. You're just asking for venom to spew from my mouth and cover you. I could overlook their obvious historical and mythological inaccuracies without too much complaint. But when they introduced Christian concept of God and Satan and made it higher than all the other gods, I lost what respect I had for the show(s). Instead of sticking to a universal big picture of many different religions and faiths and gods depending on what the mortals believed in, they (writers/producer/whoever made the decision) had to throw in Christianity and Eli (who is their version of Jesus without the cross) and make it BETTER than everything else. So it is the only true way to go. I wouldn't have minded the addition of Christianity as long as it was kept equal with all the other religions. Hercules/Xena could have avoided becoming more Christian propraganda. I hope this doesn't offend anyone; I'm an unrepentive neo-pagan and I have real problems when people start preaching there is only "one" way to lead a good and moral life.

TimeDancer> Glad to see Pandora return. A great story with some neat revelations about Loki.

*A green glowing portal opens up and a hand grabs hold of Cassandra's tail, giving it a hard pull.*

Guess it's time for me to go.

*Jumps through the portal that closes behind her.*

Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 03:52:25 PM
IP: 204.196.27.23

Aaron wanders in, wearing a huge Pope hat.

Today is the Pope's B-day.

SJ><<-oops, that was a bit of social commentary tacked on there>> Have you been watching Ben Elton again?

Wilek>How does the song go? If it opens "I see a red door and I want to paint it black" it's probably the old 'Stones tune. (Unless it's the GOB cover from the Stir of Echos soundtrack) And yeah, HoHH did have pretty cool music, I was just really looking for Sweet Dreams right then. Which is odd, because I'm not usually much on Manson covers, but that one just fit the film so well.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 03:50:34 PM
IP: ppp-6.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

*****************TO ALL ANIME OR GARG FANS*****************

hmm...Ya that should be about everyone in this room.

OK here's the deal. I need to make some extra cash and so I am going to sell a few items I own. *wipes tears* I love them dearly..but..but..*sucks it in* I can part with some I suppose..*sighs deeply* OK here are the items I am offering..

Dragonball- I have wall scrolls, posters, firgures, cards, videos, and comics both manga and english. I also have a few other odds and ends fromt his series.

Gargoyles- A gient (I stress full size..so only buy if you have room!) Goliath stand up. It is for advertising the Gargoyles video game. I have 5 applause Brooklyn cups, 5 Brooklyn twisti straws, 2 Goliath twisti straws. A 12 and 24 peice puzzle. I have a box of Series One and I admit a box of series 2..though to be very honest..*hugs it* I'm not sure on selling that one. *scratches head* Oh ya..and not that ppl will care but I have a ton of single cards and pop ups if your interested in a specific card.

Sailor Moon- *LOL* I GUESS I just don't have a lot for this series..all my buds are moonies and they cleaned me out! And for free too those little *smiles* naw there great. Lets see all I really have are some of the chibi figures, a small kite, the star fighter key chains and two stuffed Artimus'. They so cute;)

Kenshin- Just a couple of posters is all I got for this series. Again..to many fans of Kenshin

Neon Genisis- I got key chains of Shingi, Asuka, and two of Rai..er Ray..whatever! One of her in her uniform and one in her school uniform. I have some posters and one walls scroll of the children. I have a couple cards..not to many.

Pokemon- I have the electronic talking figures of Pika, Charmander, Squirtal, Meowth, Psyduck and Togapi..er..cant spell. I have two posters as well and some post cards. Nothing much here.

lets see..I think that is all I really want to put up now or I'll be clean out of stuff!! *sighs* _HATE_ to sell this stuff.

Ok. I don't honestly believe a lot of you want to buy this stuff from me so no pressure ok? *L* As far as prices I would like ppl interested to email me and we can hagal..hagle..er. YOU know what I mean. If you want to know about a specific item email me with a message along the lines of. "I like dragonball. I want a wall scroll what kinds do you have?" Ya know..

*takes a big gulp before posting* *sighs* *hits the self destruct button*

Lexy - [Izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
West Bend, WI, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 02:16:03 PM
IP: spider-tm044.proxy.aol.com

****Kyryn peers in****

Taleweaver> Yep, it's called 'Ground Effect'. I remember Okami cussing about it when he was trying to land a glider one day. That reminds me of the time he told me about an older German guy who was visiting the glider school and saw a Texas squall line building on afternoon. He wanted to go up and fly with the thunderstorm up and downdrafts. The rest of the pilots finally convinced him that it wasn't a good idea with Texas thunderstorms by showing him a Nexrad plot with the wind shear plotting. He just got real quiet and then said, "Oh."

Weapons Discussion> Actually true sai used for combat would be sharpened. Also a katana can be used for close-in work by using a reverse angle, but it's a b**** to work with -- this from Okami who fights with a daisho (paired katana and wakazashi). Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages. *grin* I was trained using some basic survival principles -- anything can be used as a weapon and whatever will keep you alive works.

Shadowrider> Sorry to hear you'll be leaving.

Later All!

****Kyryn takes off****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, May 18, 2000 01:29:39 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

**Mecord flies in on the back of Bardic the dragon.**

Archwolf>> Welcome back! RL is taking so many. I will fight to the bitter end! Thanks for the offer, I am looking for a proofreader actualy. I'll notify you when it's ready. May be a week or so, it's longer than I expected already.

Valentine>> “Noooooo! Not the Comfy Chair!” Careful, we might tickle you with the soft cushions. >:)
< lucid dreams of messy, screaming death> I’ve had some of those. One of the most disturbing ended with me grabbing a fallen tomahawk (the ax not the missile) and slitting a stormtrooper’s throat. It was so real I woke thinking I had blood on my hands. But, what can I say, he was about to shoot my best friends and all my blaster shots were deflected by his armor.

Destroying Mouses>> I just can’t pilot an X-wing, Tie, or any other starfighter with a mouse. But I have gone through several different types of controllers (I’m always on the lookout for a sturdy joystick). And until I can find another one, I’m grounded.

Wilek>> I always hesitate to use a lightsaber against another sword or club-like weapnon. I always imagine me slicing their weapon in half and the broken end flying in my face. Just a little paranoia on my part mayhap, but that’s why I usually keep the lightsaber in reserve for deflecting projectiles, other lightsabers, impressive juggling acts, cutting a frame where I think the door should be… you know, stuff like that.

David G.>> < People are so bloody minded that they'll figure out some way to kill no matter what we do.> My sentiments exactly! Besides, most gun control laws only work with guns legally acquired. Banning guns won’t get rid of them. It just makes it harder to restock on ammo.

Gasper>> $ about your RP, it was a little vague on which RP were you intending to join? Anyway, glad to have you in on whichever.$

Warpmind>> RP creativity demons on vacation? Maybe this will help.

*****RP*****
Warpmind finished releasing the captured souls of Mephisto’s realm and returned to where Senthet was hiding.
“That should keep Beelzebub’s lackeys busy for a while,” he said.
“Where’s Mec?”
“I didn’t see him.”
“That’s the whole point,” Mecord appeared from the shadows behind them, still wearing the hooded cloak that changed colors to fit his surroundings.
“About time you oaf,” Senthet was angry, “Did you get that blasted Gem?”
“Of course.”
“Good, now let’s get our of this hellhole.”
“I can’t yet. I’ve closed Mephisto’s connection here, but there’s another, more powerful connection to Earth. I have to find out where and who.”
“Why not ask him?” Warpmind pointed over to the giant winged slug, Beelzebub, who was just now recovering from Mecord’s jolt.
“Back through the horde? This should be interesting.”
“Say elf, is it just me or did you get taller?”
“What do you mean?”
Warpmind blinked, looking the elf over. Mecord was the same as always.
“Nevermind.”
*****END RP*****

Off to write some more, later.

Mecord - [Mecordlein@mailcity.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 01:21:28 PM
IP: usr55.mtwest.net

I have read the Nor Iron Bars episode ladies and gents and let me tell you now it was marvelous. I shall spoil it not but I do recomend reading it. ?:-)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 01:13:32 PM
IP: dt015nf3.san.rr.com

*Archwolf shuffles stiffly into the room. Fur has ben clawed away in areas, leaving new scars behind.* Damn kids...the second you let em know you are not on the coaching staff any more, they try to challenge your authority.
Somebody howl for me? Sorry I've been away so long...started working a late day shift that leaves me little time for my self. And since my pack started to stagger back from school last week and this week, I have been busy. Just a few minor situations to resolve, and I should be able to stop by more than once every two weeks.

Mec>If you need a proofer for the next part of your fic, drop me a line.

SJ>I'll keep your father and family in my prayers. <<MORT THE DEAD TEEN>>Sounds like something from one of Pratchet's DiscWorld books.

Tailweaver><<I've seen it done by pelicans and coastal gliders. It's flyign low over the water. Basically, your body sink, the air that's displaced pushes you up and you can glide for miles. Just wondering if anyone else has put a name to it>>if i remember ground school correctly, that is called 'Ground Effect'. I think the altitude it takes effect at is a function of aircraft wingspan and mass.

ShadowRider>Good luck in the military. It's a good life (even if it is only for a year).

Valentine><<as for Taking down katana fighters, I'd rather have skill and three feet of nasty edge & point than skill and two defensive weapons... Just personal preference maybe, but still...>>If some one came at me with a katana, I would do what the Mongols (I think) did: use a pole hammer to shatter the blade from 4 feet away. The Katana is a nice weapon, but fragile. Give me a transitional rapier and notched weapons breaker any day. <<How many bikers >>Um, I'm a biker-in-training, does that count?
<<but I'd rather not see a live-action Gargoyles movie made... I just don't think it would be possible to translate from 60+ episode cartoon to 2+ hour movie, even under the best curcemstances, acting, and direction. There's just not enough time to tell the story properly, and given the high rate of total FUBAR that comes out of Disney and Hollywood, I'd rather not see them even try...
>> I seem to remember reading that the movie would only deal with Goliath, not the trio, Angela, or Hudson, and would take place after the final ep of TGC. I also think that if this were the case, the movie would be doomed to suck from the get-go.

Stormy>Welcome back for however long you are here!

Cassandra>Welcome aboard. Don't be surprised if i walk in next time with smouldering fur....I seem to catch my self on fire on a regular basis. Like Mec says, don't panic. Just surrender your sanity, and no body gets hurt ;)

Mara>> <I have no fear of death>I don't fear death itself, I fear the _how_ of it. I will NOT go out in some street crime (at least, not without taking someone with me). I fear being the last of my pack to go, though.

**First RP in a loooooooooooooong time*
Awareness. Sensation: Pian. Many sounds, to jumbled to make out. Archwolf openned his eyes. He was in a dark chamber...somewhere. He felt different. The last he remembered was deciding to go defend something. Movement to his left caught his atention. "How are you feeling now?" Said a dark voice, full of menace. Archwolf stretched his limbs. He felt the pain receding, he felt changes taking place, internally and externally. "I feel better than I have in a long time. I fell....hungry." He could feel changes in his mentality taking effect. Initially he panicked, but soon there was too little of his original personality left. When the mental changes were complete, he looked at himself. His fur had gone from a nice shade of red, to almost pitch black. The new personality rejoiced. It had been along time since he had been alowed out to play. "Good by Archwolf, Welcome back, ShadowWolf." The person beside the newly changed werewolf smiled. "Good. Now, what do you remember?" "Everything." "Good. I want you to collect a few of you former friends for me. Starting with that elf." "Which one?" The eager new wolf asked. "The leader, Mecord. The rest you can do what ever with." ShadowWolf smiled. "My pleasure."
**End RP**

*More howls can be heard from outside the CR* *Sigh* Funny thing. It is the minor situations that take up all of your time...the major ones are generally over and done with so fast, and you are screwed up one side and down the other before you know it. Those minor ones, they tend to stick around and bite you in the a** when you least expect it.
*Archwolf bolts for the door. Moments later, several yips and yelps of pain can be heard, and archwolf shouts back 'sometimes you just gotta bite back!'**

Shade and Sweet water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 12:43:30 PM
IP: pumpkin-c-23.mcmurray.nb.net

Hey all,
Got a question for Stormy or any other flyers out here. I was wondering if there is an aeronautical term for something. I call it pillow drafting. I've seen it done by pelicans and coastal gliders. It's flyign low over the water. Basically, your body sink, the air that's displaced pushes you up and you can glide for miles. Just wondering if anyone else has put a name to it.

***** Buffy and Angel Spoilers *****
As climatic battles go, it was good, but not great. I think it's because I never felt a sense of menace from Adam. The Mayor made me worry. Angel made me worry. Spike and Drusila made me worry, but Adam? *shrug* I never realy felt like 'Oh no. It's Adam!' His plan was evil, but not quite on the same league as sacrificing the whole city of Sunnydale to an Ascension feast or plunging the whole world into hell.

The reconciliation was way to easy. I liked that this built up over the season. Looking back I can see all the points where this rift widened. I hope that the group hug means that this will be worked on and not that everything is resolved. Like I said, good but not great.

Angel was interesting. Thought Gunn was hilarious walking into Wolfram and Hart. Not too thrilled about another prophecy. (I know I'm a hardcore cynics where prophecies are concerned.)

I'm starting to see some of Mayor Wilkins in that executive though. Someone who has a bigger picture in mind. Should be interesting to see if this plays out next week. A lot better that Buffy. But that's my opinion.

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:56:48 AM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

Hi everybody! Slow day for me today so I can go off to read the new TD after this post.

Shadowrider> <Road Rash> <slower than others, but hypermaneuverable> I know what you mean. Maneuverability was extremely important for me too. When I played using the one of the fastest bikes I would usually manage to hit something (since I couldn't weave around it fast enough) and fly through the air after getting vaulted off the bike. Sometimes I was airborne for way too long. (Insert some gruesome death scene) It was always interesting how the guy would just get up as if nothing happened and run back to his bike. It must have been a terminator riding that bike! ^_^

Wilek> <get a game without cheats> Actually I could also give you a nice cheat that gives you god mode and other goodies. Just don't use it on battle.net unless you want to upset some other players. ;)

Gunjack Valentine> Welcome back! < Maybe his brain is being twisted at the speed of light?> That had me ROFL. :)

******BEGIN MINI RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

"I think I should go with Jason." Winterwolf replied. "I think I can help him increase his mental discipline."

"Really? I could use some help." Jason said looking at Winterwolf.

"Sure. I think I could help you master the first ring." Winterwolf answered. "DPH would it be okay if we waited a day or two before we set out so I can help Jason?"

******END MINI RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Jannie and Shadowrider> First and foremost: Thanks to both of you for all the info!! Now I need to learn how to ride. ^_^ <wear jeans> That's perfect for me. I have a closet almost half full of jeans. <muffler burns> That sounds painful. O.O <tumbleweed> That sounds funny, but I imagine it is quite annoying.

Brooklyn> I've gotten my FT shots together and started sending them to you. Just wait until you check your mailbox today! ;)

I'll be back later. I'm off to read the new TD story!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:26:34 AM
IP: 206.15.122.13

Valentine> Sounds like you've been having...interesting times.


[as for Taking down katana fighters, I'd rather have skill and three feet of nasty edge & point than skill and two defensive weapons... Just personal preference maybe, but still... ]

So would the ancient Okinawan (sp?) peasants, but when the Japanese invaders took over and made it illegal to own swords, they had to improvise. All things considered, I don't think they did very badly.

Several of the classic martial arts weapons were supposedly developed from agricultural tools. Nunchaku were rice flails, Tonfas were (I think) the handles to mill wheels. Sais were probably developed from a tool like a pitch fork. (That's one of the reasons that I don't support gun control. People are so bloody minded that they'll figure out some way to kill no matter what we do.)

Of course, personally, _I_ would prefer to take out an armored warrior with a sword by using a long bow. There's a lot less ambiguity about your relationship that way. :>

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:23:57 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

One more Sci-Fi News: >> The Outer Limits series is coming to a close. The final episode will air in late August (of this year) on Showtime. Since the syndication cycle is one season behind Showtime's, 'Limits' will continue through the 2000-01 season. (And the Sci-Fi Channel is one season behind syndication).
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 07:48:35 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Re: Naming Convention: >> XenaTrek... hmmm.... any question? Its just a combo of two shows I watch, Xena: WP and Star Trek.

Coyote: > Re: The naming of Don >> I still say "Don Alexandro (if thats how its spelled) Martinez" is the one to go. If I recall, thats what you wanted to be named. Oh yeah, I'm still the only one who is allowed to call him by another name and thats b/w him and me. :P

Sev Jr.: >> Hope your father is doing well. << Re: Power Pack >> Hey don't shoot down the 'group', yes it would make a good 'kiddie' movie and whatnot, but I grew up on the comic. They did make a pilot for it back in the late 80's in Canada but it nevered air, (I still have the article and the cast roster for it). I wouldn't mind seeing in a movie. As for Capt. America... there is already 4 movie versions of it, how is a 5th gonna be better?

Re: How many Bikers on this list? >> I'm not a biker, but when I was a teenager in Canada, I've always wanted a Harley. Don't know why though.

X-File News: >> David Duchovny is returning for the 8th (possibily last) Season of The X-Files. I hope it will be the last, cuz personally, the stories in the last two season were pretty far fetched. Lets see how they pull off the 8th one.


XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Thursday, May 18, 2000 07:24:04 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Niamhgold:> Sorry for being late. "Mio fiore delicato"

Winterwolf:> Road Rash <grins> yes I remember it. A friend of mine owned a Sega Mega Drive years ago, and we used to meet in 5-6 and have neverending Road Rash tournaments. If I remember well, my preferred bike was the Shuriken 250 (slower than others, but hypermaneuverable, what I like in a bike) and my weapon was iron pipe (with a single well-placed blow you could throw an opponent off his bike). Oh, by the way, I was just beginning to wonder the reason of that "Winter"...;)

Jannie:> Bugs splashing on your face: this is the reason I prefer closed helmets ;) <<...so many things are missed while in a car that you get to see while being on a motorcycle...>> Totally right. Sights, sounds, even smells - it is all different on a motorcycle. I, though, prefer small secondary roads to highways...and, especially as I'm in vacation (my ideal of vacation is my bike, my backpack, some friends, my girlfriend (if I have one at the moment and I can convince her...;)) and no precise destination or timing...) I love to say "Hey, there's an uncharted path there...let's see where does it lead!"...I discovered a lot of beautiful and nearly unknown places this way...:)

Sevarius Jr.:> I keep your dad in my thoughts.
X-files:<<..Blow up the world, make the aliens enslave the humans...>> Totally agree! ;) I'm so tired to see the good ones win! Another season to come, huh! Good...
I love Full Metal Jacket, especially the scene where the training Marines say a pray for their rifles...and the sergeant made me laugh too much!

Warpmind:> Crummy? :O Anyway, luckily Italian Army is not that bad...not for draft soldiers, for sure (while professional volunteers have a lot to work...currently, there's about 30.000 of them in mission abroad, sparsed in Kosovo, Macedonia, Timor and so on...)

Wilek:> Thank you for your words. It is people like you that will make the CR miss to me. Yes, draft is an obsolete thing, I know it, and Italian Army knows too. The reform of Armed Forces has already started, and in 2005 Italian army will switch from 300.000 men, of which 225.000 draft soldiers, to 160.000 all volunteers with long service. So, I'm probably one of the last ones to be called (my usual luck...), my little brother for sure will join the Army only if he'll want to.
Oh, I've seen "Tron" a lot of times, I love it. Repulsor tanks were cool, but I preferres those light cycles...

Gotta read the last TD, see you later.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, May 18, 2000 05:58:57 AM
IP: h255-20-128.mi2.albacom.net

Gside> <<Is it appropriate to laugh in your face at this moment, or is it bad ettiquite?>> The latter, to say the least; it's risking death by ICBM, hooked knife, telepathically forced suicide, or Xothi digestive system, depending upon my mood. ;) <<Well there is the cow level (blatant lie, semi famous legend, SC cheat code).>> Hm. I heard quite a lot about it at www.cowlevel.com, but nothing short of invincibility or the like will do me any good. :/ <<I am now officially an uncle. Ashley Raven (well, we're not really sure about that last part) was born earlier this (last?) evening.>> Congratulations! ^_^ <<[the voices of but eight score young blondes and brunettes, all between sixteen and nineteen-and-a-half, cut off in a castle with no one to protect them, excitedly repeat "A spanking! A spanking!"]>> Um...<blink> Never mind, I'm better off not knowing...

Warpmind> <<Besides, I don't bother dishing out a four-digit amount of $ to play *1* game...)>> Well, the SNES is a pretty old system, so it probably wouldn't cost more than ~$20 at www.funcoland.com. :) <<Gimme a mousy/joystick and keyboard combo any ol' day of the week!>> Heh, I can barely play anything without a gamepad (current one is a Gravis Xterminator); probably because I was into console gaming for years before I got a computer. :) <<while I can freely *own* it, I can be punished by rather steep fines, or up to three months in the slammer if I actually ever *carry* it anywhere... :(>> What the...?! >:( Whichever rocket scientist thought *that* one up will be torn apart by rabid chihuahuas when I come into power...

DPH> <<which company would be must likely to restart/who would you like to restart Gargoyles if it was to be reanimated>> If for some unfathomable reason the rights came up for grabs, probably 4) Other/Dreamworks. Greg works there, so they'd probably give him creative control over it.

Mary Flanders> <<I haven't even taken my SAT's yet. Why? because my parents said I'm not ready for the SAT's yet, and they clearly don't remember when my sister was applying. It's pretty much too late for me to get into a UC and I have absolutely no understanding of how and when to do this college applying thing. My mom and dad won't even let me look at colleges yet. *pulls out giant dummy of parents, a steel bat, and begins to pound the @&$% out of the dummies*>> Gads...<shakes head> Parents can be so...dumb...

Winterwolf> <<I got mixed up with the Whelk from FF3. Now it is interesting to note there is only letter that is different. ('i' becomes 'h') Other than that the letters are jumbled but match up. I hope you get a good laugh out of this. I feel really silly. I added the question to my post after my brain had shut down for the night. ;) Don't you hate it when that happens?>> Ah. Heh, I spend half my life in the state of brain shutdown. Happens to all of us. ;) <<if you want to play the full Diablo I'd be happy to send you my Diablo CD. Let me know.>> Eh...no thanks; every time I get a game without cheats, I end up never getting past the first level and never playing again. :/

Chrono Trigger> For some reason I couldn't get into it. I think it was the battle system. <shrug>

Doug> <<Hope you can come back soon, good luck whipping RL into submission.>> Thanks. :) And things are looking up...

Shadowrider> <<I have to admit that repulsor tank seems interesting...;)>> Oh, it is. Ever see the movie Tron? :) <<just this morning I received my call to attend my 1-year compulsory military service in the Italian Army. In 21 of June (well, at least they gave me a little advice...), eleven days after my 23rd year, I'll leave to join the 84° Armored Battalion in Falconara Marittima.>> Oh no! :`( Such things should not happen...no civilized world should tolerate such slavery...you'll be missed. <sigh>

Swords and whatnot> I tend to prefer lightsabers. They're pretty much impossible to deflect, except by another lightsaber. >;)

SJ> <<Last night at about 11:30 p.m., they operated to remove the cyst in my father's back. The operation was thankfully a complete success, but now there's pumping him full of antibiotics so that any infection is killed. The best thing about it is that he is in quite a bit less pain than he was before. However, things are still not exactly "peechy keen". He still has a separate tumor in his back and there is still some concern about the area of his spine near the tumor. But with the cyst removed, the doctors will now be able to obtain a clearer picture of just what's going on. I believe that an orthoscopic specialist will be seeing him tomorrow about his spine. He is still very, very far from being out of the woods, but I'll take every victory I can, however small.>> Here's hoping things continue to improve for him.

Aaron> <<I can understand the other two, but Paint It Black shouldn't be that hard to find, if you're talking about the 'Stones song.>> Don't know who it was by, but I've never seen it on CD, although the MP3 was pretty easy to find. <<(I didn't buy it myself because it didn't have the Manson cover of "Sweet Dreams" on it)>> Hm. :/ Oh well, Sweet Dreams was only my second favorite song on that soundtrack anyhow (the first was the movie's opening theme). ^_^ <<I dunno, Phantom Menace comes to mind.>> Trust me, whatever one's opinion of it, it is Shakespeare compared to Battlefield Earth...I mean, the hero's name is Jonnie Goodboy Tyler and the bad guys are called the Psychlos, for xenu's sake; that alone should indicate that this is not a great movie...

Kyryn> Nerdity Test> Apparently I'm a 'nerd wannabe'. Feh.

Cherry Blossom> <<whats all this about it being related to a Cult?!?! *blinks*>> It was written by L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology. Go to www.xenu.net for details.

SOROW> <<I see the dark blue and I automatically think of Wilek.>> Looks like I picked the wrong time to swich to grey. ;)

Nor Iron Bars A Cage (no spoilers> Kewl story, as usual. ^_^

Wilek Nereus
Thursday, May 18, 2000 04:03:06 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

*Warpmind pops in.*
Well, it seems I may not be posting tomorrow; I may be attending an interview to see if I qualify for a documentary about Asperger's Syndrome... which will be shot on Lanzarote on mid June... :) Obviously, I hope I qualify.

Liked the new TD ep... no further comments.

Rodlox: You're welcome, and where my name is concerned, I shall quote a certain Xelloss... Sore wa... himitsu desu. ]:)

Richard Secretan: In one word: Que? "Problems 1100 ZXI"?

Mara: So it's pretty much the same thing? Tsk, and here I thought... oh, never mind. ;)

Shadowrider: Of course they are. The military hierarchy is the largest international form of ridicule, illogic and stupidity. :) I'm lucky; since I have Asperger's Syndrome, I am excused from military service in what I fear is the absolutely most crummy armed forces in the world... the Norwegian Armed Forces.

Gside: Heh, why do you think I added that last sentence about the joystick? ];) As for the dual meaning of warp being overshadowed by the mind part, well, I do not see it as such... it *could* mean I think *very* fast...

Valentine: Whoa, tough times have kept you away from the CR, it seems... That list of events does, however, conjure up nice visions of things to do to DC... ;) As for sharpening sai, well, I don't think I'd recommend it; it would be likely to put off the balance, and the center spike is generally round or square in shape, so it wouldn't have an edge... and by the way, my pair of sai *are* pointed, so with the right type of stab (naturally, unless I should hit a rib) I think I'd be able to drive it well into a human chest... though, I far prefer the technique of just placing the center spike along an adversary's throat, and stabbing, which will efficiently do a *lot* of damage to the throat... Besides, there are so many other fun techniques with well-made sai... it's a great wepon mainly made for clobbering enemies to unconciousness and death, or maybe sever a joint, like the knee... (there's a truly *beautiful* way to do that.) ];) Um... I'm babbling, it seems. And anyway, I think I'd rather use something big, with the capacity of cleaving someone. Like the marvellous bastard sword. :) As for the electrified sword vs. the vibroblade, well, I *was* generally thinking of something that could settle a duel by shocking the opponent into dropping his weapon. After all, wouldn't you drop your sword if you recieved an electric shock in your hand each time the swords met? ;) And where insects and bikes are concerned... ever seen a four-inch dragonfly? Imagine crashing with one of *them* at 60+ mph... *yipe*

Well, that's about it, and my RP creativity is sadly quite... missing at the moment. Maybe later.

Cheerio.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, May 18, 2000 03:49:38 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*Valentine wanders into the CR, glances around in suprise to find everything still standing, and grabs his Comfy Chair (tm)*

Yo, peoples... Nice to see everything's as it should be. *Ignores screams of horror*
Sorry for not dropping in earlier, but things have been... Hectic.;D The quickest example would be this: Imagine a Really Big Tree. Now imagine climbing to the very top, gazing across a vast, beautiful valley of peace and rest.
Now imagine falling out of the tree, hittingh every branch on the way down, and landing on your head. In the mud. With snakes.
Now imagine how cool that would be if you didn't get hurt. :)

I lost my wisdom teeth 2+ weeks ago, spent a week writhing in pain, discovered an amazing immunity to hydracodiene, got accepted to college (YES!!!), spent another week tasting decay leaking from my jaw, ate a couple comic archives, cleared 30+ kills on CS, finally watched AoD and Life of Brian, finally got some shooting time on 12g pumps and .38 spcl revolvers, procrastinated, and generally had a good time.
Now I'm decompressing from a weekend that included an introduction to Nietzche, studies of Thermopylae, an ugly OD on Vicodiene, and lucid dreams of messy, screaming death. Literaly.
If you couldn't tell, I've been having fun... :D

Anyway, enough about me... FROM THE TOP!

SJ><<CAPTAIN AMERICA: This could be a GREAT movie. Cap is one of the best of Marvel's roster of characters. He's an icon, a symbol of America. This could be a huge summer blockbuster.>> Eh, I don't know... I've never been a real fan of comic-book movies in general, due to their (usual)inability to convey the same basic 'feel' of a comic across to live action. The original batman was good, but the origional Captian America movie wasn't all that great, and neither were most of those old comic movies that came out way back when (the Flash, the Incredible Hulk, etc...); and neither were Spawn or (shudder) the Phantom. *turns aside to spit* <<Cap being criticized by the liberal media for his strong nationalistic beliefs--->> Heh. Now THAT would be interesting...

Jannie - How many bikers (Bikeresses? Bikerettes?) have we got in here? :) <<If you do not have a fairing (windshield) do not open your mouth anymore than necessary... you know those bugs that splat on the windshield of a car? well... they splat on your face and in your mouth too.. ewwww!!>> I always wondered what would happen if you nailed a locust or cycaida at 60+ miles per hour? Backflips, anyone? ;O <<There's nothing like cruising down the highway on a motorcycle though - so many things are missed while in a car that you get to see while being on a motorcycle :)>> Ever read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maitinence'?

Gside><<But taken with your adopted last name, it tends to overshadow the second definition.>> Maybe his brain is being twisted at the speed of light?

Warpmind><<I *do* hope you realize that sai are under no circumstances useful as daggers?>> Uh, is there anything to keep the sai's point from being sharpened? all it would take is a bit of material from the last 2 inches from the point, and you could run it up to the quillions with a minimum of effort... and that's without sharpening the quillions... <<Of course, since they're an excellent type of short club (having a pair myself, I can vouch for the great balance in some of them), I'd say the guy with the katana would have a problem when his collarbone is broken on both sides of the neck... :)>> Speaking of blunts vs. sharps, ever read about Mashushi? as for Taking down katana fighters, I'd rather have skill and three feet of nasty edge & point than skill and two defensive weapons... Just personal preference maybe, but still... <<Heh, so I make a pressure-sensitive trigger through the entire blade, and some sort of battery pack in the handle, or maybe wiring from a battery pack in my pocket, along my arm, and into the handle, which of course is insulated... yes, this should work...>> Why not a ceramic/G10 laminate serrated vibroblade? that'd do more damage than any puny electric charge... :)

Brooklynn><<Hey does anybody know anything about the gargoyles movie? Is it still in "DEVELOPEMENT" or have they actually gotten up off there dead asses and done something.>> I'm probably a minority of one on this, but I'd rather not see a live-action Gargoyles movie made... I just don't think it would be possible to translate from 60+ episode cartoon to 2+ hour movie, even under the best curcemstances, acting, and direction. There's just not enough time to tell the story properly, and given the high rate of total FUBAR that comes out of Disney and Hollywood, I'd rather not see them even try...

Shadowrider><<in the beginning I used to play X-Wing with the mouse...very precise shooting, but I destroyed three mouses in six months...>> I'm still on my first with Counterstrike, but until just recently, despite daily cleaning, it squeaked loud enough to be heard across the house... My dad took it apart and got it going again, but it's only a matter of time.. :)

*Valentine glances at his watch, yawns, and grabs his attache*

Well, time to go to bed or beat my head against a wall or something... See ya'll later... :D

"So since beer contains barley, does that mean if we get drunk and fall asleep in a hot tub we'll wake up as haggis?"
-Torg

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
AK-47-style, Booyaka, Texas
Thursday, May 18, 2000 02:40:37 AM
IP: nas-57-80.dallas.navipath.net

COYOTE> NP ... Glad you got it! :) I love that scene!!!!! It was my first cel from the show (of the 5 I now own). Good buy!
Pogo
Thursday, May 18, 2000 01:58:46 AM
IP: proxy5-external.alsv1.occa.home.com


guess i'm a bit early...TGS hasn't changed.

<G>

Rodlox
Thursday, May 18, 2000 12:14:12 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

No new stuff about my dad. Just keep praying and sending them well wishes towards him. :) Maybe RP tomorrow. Tonight, random bits of info!

Renewals and Cancellations: Must be a banner year for all of the networks, because a large majority of their shows were renewed. THANK GOD Buffy and Angel, the best 2 hours of TV on TV, were renewed. Most of the WB lineup got renewed. I could do without....oh, everything except Buffy and Angel. Roswell has been renewed for at least 13 episodes. I still think that show is really just a waste of space, but apparently a mountain of tabasco sauce has proven me wrong ;) ABC, for some inexplicable reason, has decided to put Millionare on FOUR nights out of the week (as if I don't already have enough of seeing Regis' big-chiclets-for-teeth smile). Then they canceled Sports Night, a show I never, ever watched but heard was good (fans, rejoice--another network IS picking it up, most likely HBO). NBC is still sticking with most of its horrible sitcoms, and will no doubt add more. At least they still have Law and Order and Law and Order Special Victims Unit, and ER. And maybe West Wing. I watched the last 2 episodes of that show out of desparation, and it isn't too bad. UNLESS they start getting preachy. I want to watch the West Wing, not the "Left Wing". CBS....well, I don't watch a damn thing on CBS, save for maybe taping Martial Law occasionally, so it doesn't concern me. Sorry to see that Now and Again may potentially be canceled, although a final decision has not yet been made. And Fox is adding a bunch of new sci-fi shows this fall, including "Fearsum" which will be done by (I believe) David Goyer and the Blair Witch Project team and James Cameron's "Dark Angel" series (starring teen hottie Jessica Alba). AND they have renewed X-Files.

I don't know how thrilled I am about the X-Files renewal. True, they have one more season to tie up all of the loose ends, but word has it that David Duchovney will only appear in maybe 6 to 11 episodes of the season. [Open letter to David Duchovney: Reconsider this move. I saw the box office to your last movie. You know, the one without the "X" by the title? I hate to be blunt, but, well, you sure as hell aren't so scary talented that the studios are breaking down the door looking for you to do movie parts. You may be "tired" of X-Files, but as of right now it's the only thing that will really support your dopey ass, and will continue to do so even when no one (except for the fanboys) wants your dopey ass anymore.] I sure hope that they get their heads together and give us a great final season, cause this one came *this* close to being the last, and it was far from outstanding. Blow up the world, make the aliens enslave the humans. Do something special, for the love of God.

MARVEL MOVIE NEWS UPDATE!!!!
A big ass announcement was made today that stated that Marvel Entertainment had reached a deal with Artisan (the studio that brought us the hit "The Blair Witch Project", among others) to develop many of their comics properties into movies, tv series, or direct-to-video series. Here's the list of the properties confirmed by Marvel to be developed (with commentary from me! ;)

CAPTAIN AMERICA: This could be a GREAT movie. Cap is one of the best of Marvel's roster of characters. He's an icon, a symbol of America. This could be a huge summer blockbuster. Cap fighting the Red Skull, Cap fighting Nazis, Cap being criticized by the liberal media for his strong nationalistic beliefs---
--oops, that was a bit of social commentary tacked on there. Sorry. Well, this could be a kick ass movie!

BLACK PANTHER: I would like to see this, but only if current Black Panther comic scribe Chris Priest writes the screenplay. He's a fantastic writer, and has made the character, who had previously always been nothing more than a support member of the Avengers, into an interesting individual. Panther, as written by Priest, is the MAN. He's like Batman, only if Batman was not only rich and smooth, but ruled his own country as well. This could be a great movie as well.

DEADPOOL: This is one you know they're going to screw up. This ever gets made, they'll totally rewrite the character's origin/powers. He's a mutant, but I doubt they'll bother to explain that fact to the audience. This could wind up being a cool sort of Mission Impossible/John Woo type assassin/intrigue story, but it also has potential for a real screw up.

Iron Fist: I'm surprised Marvel included this, cause the character is fairly obscure to any non fans. Perhaps they're counting on making this into some sort of martial arts movie or tv show. It could work. Blade was a big hit, and most people who saw the film never knew it was adapted from a comic.

MORBIUS: This suprised me as well. He's always been a Spider-Man support character, but I could definitely see a nice, spooky little horror movie and or tv show about Morbius. They'd really have to darken it up. Make it very "Crow-like", but this could work well.

LONGSHOT: I have no idea how in the hell they're going to do this one. Longshot comes with so much baggage. He really only has ties with the X-Men, and I'm a little confused as to how they'd adapt him and not include the X-Men continuity.

POWER PACK: This...upset me at first, but hey, this could be a great kiddie show or movie or direct-to-video thing for the youngsters. I won't be watching, though.

MORT THE DEAD TEEN: I've never heard of this. Apparently "Mort" is some sort of teen who dies and then comes back to life. I'm sure wacky hijinks ensue.

ANTMAN: I hope they reserve Antman for a direct-to-video film or a tv show. Cause as much as Hank Pym is a guilty pleasure of mine, I don't want to see a full-length Antman feature in the theatres.

THOR: They're talking about making a Thor tv series. This could be cool, but it'd be nice if they made a film first, THEN a series. Thor is a great character in the Marvel Universe, though, so I'd love to see any adaption of him.

And, as an aside, Marvel currently has films for the Fantastic Four, the Incredible Hulk, the Silver Surfer, Blade 2, and (of course) Spider-Man in the works with other studios.

Full Metal Jacket: It's like I keep telling you--FMJ is one of the all-time great comedies of the 80s! Well, first half anyway. Sgt. Hartman: "God has a hard on for Marines, because we kill everything we see. He plays His games, we play ours. To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls. God was here before the marine corps, so you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the corps!"
Maybe I have a sick, warped sense of humor, but damn it if I don't start laughing the moment R.Lee Ermey appears on the screen...

Lake Eerie: As T-Bird once said, "You know Lake Eerie once caught fire from all the s*** floating in it? I would have liked to seen that."

Coyote: Should we start calling you "Don Coyote of La Mancha" now? ;) Perhaps "Don Coyote of Algonac"!

***BUFFY AND ANGEL QUICK REVIEWS****
I'm too tired to go into these in depth. Here's the quick skinny:

Buffy--GREAT episode. Good to see how they resolved the Iniative, although I still say I would like to see the government keep an interest in Buffy. It's obvious that they recognize the underworld threat, and they should be keeping an eye on Buffy...Still, great ending, although it was a bit of a deus ex machina to see Buffy get all possessed and such. 9.5 outta 10.

Angel was great too. Some excellent character development on Lindsey--I was totally not expecting them to focus on a "villain". Hope that, in time, he can come to actually truly betray Wolfram and Hart, cause I think deep down there's a real person inside of him. Great to see Gunn helping Angel out (and I loved the way he did it too ;). Hopefully, as I wished last week, they'll make him a recurring character. And finally, liked the prophecy stuff. Good way to set up the finale AND set up story lines for next season. 9 out of 10.
***END REVIEWS****

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, May 18, 2000 12:04:02 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

****Kyryn steps into the room****

Gentlebeings, we now present tonight's episode:

It's not easy when devotion and dedication conflict....

Nor Iron Bars A Cage

Written by Gray

Outline by Rahsaan Footman

Artwork by Noel Leas


****Kyryn steps aside to avoid the rush****

Kyryn - [<<--clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:46:56 PM
IP: denm1-17.iglobal.net

Coyote> *winks and chuckles* yeah.. that's a pretty funny picture of me. hehehe Not only will I have a camera, but Denis will also have it - as well as the camcorder ;) and he has a very ornery streak in him! *L*

Crzy> ROFLMAO shhhuudduuppp!! ;p *struts* me bad... me bad... *w*

Winterwolf> clothing and riding motorcycles.... always wear pants - blue jeans are preferable. As great as an opportunity it is to get a nice tan on your legs while riding in the sun, it's also a way to loose several layers of your skin should you be unfortunate and drop the bike. You also have to be cautious of muffler burns. *cringes* The bike wreck that I mentioned before - the other guy slide across the highway on his butt. He had a bag of chewing tobacco in his back pocket - when he got it out, it was in shreds - wrapper and all, but his jeans were untouched and not a scratch on his butt.
I have a riding jacket - much like what Shadowrider described. Mine is silver (easily seen in day or night conditions) water resistant and is wind safe. I found out the hard way to not wear things with ties - they whip back and beat you stupid! LOL
To keep your head cooler while wearing a helmet - put on a banadana first. Don't wet it - makes your head itch.
Everything that Shadowrider suggested, I agree and complied with myself. No loose clothing and make sure your shoe strings are tied. If I knew we'd be walking around for any length of time after a ride and it was hot, I always packed a pair of shorts to change into after I got there. I had soft saddlebags and kept a variety of interesting things in them ;)
Also, if you are a passenger, don't make any sudden moves - it throws the driver off. Move as little as possible and do each move as softly and gently as you can. If you need to squirm or reposition yourself, let the driver know before you do it and keep your feet away from his. *speaks from experience* O_o
If you do not have a fairing (windshield) do not open your mouth anymore than necessary... you know those bugs that splat on the windshield of a car? well... they splat on your face and in your mouth too.. ewwww!!
Riding in the panhandle of Kansas and Oklahoma - tumbleweeds were a problem. They have thorns on them and stick to your legs and since you are going against the wind, they don't shake off very easily... *chuckles*

There's nothing like cruising down the highway on a motorcycle though - so many things are missed while in a car that you get to see while being on a motorcycle :)
When I move to a smaller town - that's one of my first purchases - a new motorcycle, I really miss riding.

*drum roll for the personal trivia*
6 more school days left
78 more days till G2K
74 more days till Denis and I meet!! *happy feet dance with Denis, smothering his face with 74 kisses* ;)

Jannie
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:31:39 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.205.59.houston1.level3.net

Shoot, knew I forgot something ...

Name etymologies: Ooh, so much fun, especially 'cause I really dislike my own name 'cause it get so mangled sometimes ...
I know ... how does a simple name like "Don" get mangled? **chuckles** People have this tendency to think it's short for something ... I had one college professor who on a consistent basis called me "Donald," and sometimes I think it was because he had a sick fetish for watching me cringe every time. **rolls eyes**
Anyway, my name isn't short for *anything,* it's even like that on my driver's license and my dang *birth certificate!* It comes from the romance languages' name for "sir" as it would be like a title.
Now my handle, which I like *sooo* much better than my name ... that comes from when I marched in the band when I would howl during the band's parade cadence. Hence ...

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:12:56 PM
IP: 216.28.101.13

Winterwolf> <<covered in rubber and duct tape>>: Mmm... Duct tape.
<<I think we've been here before>>:Of course, and we will probably return many, many times.

Mr. Toman> <<don't be knocking the Cuyahoga>>: It goes smoking through my dreams.

Gasper> Watch out. There are currently two separate RPs running in here. One is the so-call battle for technology, essentially run by DPH (the only other surrent contributor is Winterwolf). The other is more of a collective driven effort, with many participants.

Fire Strom> <<Maybe every time we say it we should post a complete explination>>: Nah, just the first time after a new poster enters.

Warpmind> <<the damage may be impossible to mend later>>: How do you know that is not part of my master plan?
Joystick bit: I was going along just fine until you had to throw in that last sentence.

Niamhgold> <<I _love_ reading the dictionary, determining word roots and such>>: Aha. Another linguist.
<<Well, could be an Internet-ese word>>: According to Noam (and most other current linguists), anything you say that is understood is correct.

If I may be allowed to continue my previous revelries, this time for acing discrete structures (aka comp sci). I raised my gpa by 0.033 points.

Warpmind> <<the double meaning of Warp, it being either twisted beyond recognition, or the speed of light>>: But taken with your adopted last name, it tends to overshadow the second definition.

James Birdsong> <<the happy king look>>: It's good to be the king.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:55:57 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

**drags himself in** Ouch ... this is what I get for experimenting around with rollerblades ... my right leg's hurt all day!

G99 pics: I only chose 11 of them because those were the best ones I could find out of the bunch ... well, the best 10 and a gag pic (the "hangover" pic). I took nearly two rolls' worth of pics in Dallas, but many of them wound up being too dark and/or marred by fingers in the way (case in point, the pic I took of Thom with Becca Morgan in her Lex costume got wrecked because of my own fat fingers).
FS: I have no *other* pics of you and LM other than that one. So I'm kinda stuck with it.
Jannie: I know for sure about the deal with payback. Ten bucks says about this time next year you unearth a pic with me in a compromising position ... I just snapped the pic because it looked real dang funny. (Of course, two months later I wound up with a copy of "BASEketball" which has a similar gag near the end of it)
Starsinger: Well, you gotta admit that the wenching dress really looks good on ya. ;)
Crzy, Stephen: Thanks, guys. Hopefully this year's pics will be much better thanks to my nice new digital camera. :)

Mara-ko: Actually ... I need to put the scenes up, but in the first story of the TPB I got, Mara possesses the body of Megumi (Keiichi's sister), and she looks a lot like you ... or at least the description you told me after ye got your hair cut. I scanned a good sequence from the story. :)
Oh ... **clears throat** but maybe you're right ... but it don't mean I don't keep that opinion, love. **kiss**

**checks mail**

Pogo: Thanks for the word on the cel, man. Thanks a whole lot! **rips off message from e-mail box** 'Cause now it's MINE!!

**does a happy dance with Mara-ko for a brief moment before leaving**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:37:11 PM
IP: 216.28.101.13

Hey guys
Just dropping by.
Winterwolf
That enhanced Brooklyn was great! Thanks a bunch. If you got any ideas as to how I should go about my page I'm more than welcome to suggestions.

If anyone has any pics of Matt,Claw, or the Thailog Shock Troops from Future Tense please send them my way.

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:14:42 PM
IP: usr57.cqc.com

Hi. Just a couple of quick responses for now.

Shadowrider> <"The Wraith"> You are amazingly sharp! I was trying to be come up with an original race story but as I started writing it my mind wondered on that very movie. I'd say it was a cross between that movie and Road Rash. (Road Rash is a racing game where everyone uses motorcycles and you are allowed to play dirty. Some of the game opponents play very dirty. They use chains and clubs to knock people off their bikes. As you win races you can buy enhancements for your bike and better bikes.) The way Winterwolf gets pushed into the race is similar to "The Wraith". I got the idea of being smacked around with a pipe from Road Rash. Then I decided it was time I showed why the word winter is in Winterwolf. He can make it snow and make it cold. After that I setup my escape. That should really be original. I didn't have anything in mind at that point. <Shadow being you nickname translated> I'm going to have to share now too. One definition of my name is wolf. I loved the idea hence the wolf in Winterwolf. ^_^

Revel> Welcome back! :)

Niamhgold> The golden Niamh... <Sorry> You don't need to apologize! I was just teasing you. ;) <Boston Italian sector is sick of seeing me> That hasn't happened to me. I'm always happy to see you. :) <haggle> I better not try to bargain with you. I give in way too easily! <living in NYC> Living in the city is great. There's always something to do. Museums, parks, movies, parties, stores, concerts, restaurants, theater, conventions and more. I usually have plenty to do on the weekends and go out on weekdays too. There is one thing that bothers me though. I can't believe that I managed to miss two gatherings in my hometown! It's crazy how so many things are going on that you manage to miss out on something else you would have preferred to do. I probably shouldn't complain about that. I know some friends who don't have as many options and could use the variety. What's that phrase... Oh yeah! Variety is the spice of life. Anyway as I said before, I'm happy just to spot you in the CR. ^_^ <"My delicate flower"> If only you needed Spanish. Mi delicada flor.

Good night!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 09:34:49 PM
IP: 1cust219.tnt5.nyc3.da.uu.net

** Quickie Post! **

Shadowrider (or anyone else speaking Italian): How would you say "My delicate flower" in Italian? Thanks!

Adios!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 09:10:14 PM
IP: lac-flex198.ncia.net

Sincere thanks to Spacebabie and Kitainia for wishing me good luck.

Kit:> Yes, I've seen Full Metal Jacket. One of my preferred, I reviewed it just last week, so I catch your quote...
Thank you for your words. I too came to consider you and Doug (and some other people too) as my friends, and you all will miss to me a lot.
Oh, probably you'll read it as you'll return, but I hope you and Doug will have fun in your visits to relatives (and, it they're boring as sometimes happens...well, just repeat a hundred times: "If doesn't kill me, makes me stronger..." ;)). Oh, by the way, may I de-cross my fingers now? ;)

Winterwolf:> Yes, I liked the RP race. Just out of curiosity...the situation reminded me of a movie I've seen once...title was "The Wraith" and main actor, If I remember well, Charlie Sheen (Before "Hot Shots")...is there any connection?
Clothing? Hm, there's not a "typical" way of clothing...there's a lot of them. Here in Italy and, as I've seen, in Europe, you can meet pretender Easy Riders in black boots, riveted jacket and leather pants, or guys that seem just escaped from a world championship G.P., with hypertechnological and fully colored leather suits, but also businessmen in jacket and necktie...there's for all tastes. Recommended, instead...well, I can tell you something more. The essential things are: a GOOD helmet (if you wanna save money on something, save on everything but the helmet...) and a pair of biking gloves (I don't know the climate in NYC, but I have two pairs, one for winter and one for summer). You will also want to buy a shoe-saver (it is simply a strap of fabric with a square of synthetic leather and a velcro strip, you wear it on the left shoe and it prevents the gear lever from deteriorating your shoe...it costs the equiv of 5$). For the rest, everything is good...just avoid too wide or fluctuating clothes. The flaw of it is that everyday wearing is little protective in case of fall, because normal fabric rips immediately when skidding on the asphalt, and under the fabric there's your skin... The best protection is offered by those leather G.P. replica suits, but they're expensive (some of them I've seen at 900€...about 800$) and not very confortable as you park the bike and are supposed to walk. A good compromise is buying a biking jacket (what I do for everyday riding). Biking jackets are made of a special high-resistance fabric, they're water-proof and wind-proof and the best models incorporate protections for the back, shoulders and forearms. They also have a lot of wide pockets. There are a lot of models in commerce, of every price and style. With a 300$ or so, you can buy a good jacket. The flaw of this way is that legs are still not very protected, but legs are also very less fragile than arms...and you can apply a pair of sliders on your pants knees, to increase protection (sliders are a kind of thick patches, G.P. riders use them to skim asphalt with knees in turns without hurt...)

Warpmind:> I see that military advices are the same all around the world...;)

My Nickname Origin:> Well, "Shadow" is the translation of my Italian nickname, Ombra. "Rider"...because I usually ride a motorcycle to move.

Rodlox:> If you wanna know: "Grazie, amico mio"

Ciao a tutti!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 06:55:50 PM
IP: h255-22-192.mi2.albacom.net

Finally, It took me long to get everything set back up and on my desk, but I'm running again. I'll have to take some time to read what's been going on, but I figured I'd just announce myself for the heck of it.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.co]
Bayou City, tx
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 05:48:10 PM
IP: spider-tr072.proxy.aol.com

Hey everyone! Well, sorry I didn't get to come in here sooner but Kai has been taking up a lot of my time ya know? *rolls her eyes at the off color comments* yaya..whatever;). But I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my rant about dating. I thought you all had good responses in either contributing to my comment or adding some of your own ideas. Thanks a lot guys! ^_^

Christine-..though that _was_ a good point..*looks over at Kaioto innocently sifting through her Dragon ball collection* Hmm....I'll keep another eye on him from now on;)

*wipes a tear* *wimpers* *misses kaioto already* *pouts*

*pokes his head in* *huggles his love*

*waves sheepishly* *looks at the clock and scowls, sighs* I'm starting to develop a real love-hate relationship with airplanes.

(lexy)
*sighs* *listens to the Ah My Goddess music playing* sooo...sad...*huggles her love*

WELL anyway, after I recover from him leaving *smiles slightly and gives him a small kiss on the forehead* I will read over what was said this week and see if I can add to it

K? ^_^ This is Lexy _and_ Kaioto-chan signing off!!

(kaioto)

your weird...

(Lexy) :P!!!!

Lexy
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 05:24:23 PM
IP: ac8a1b69.ipt.aol.com

Mara-ko: And in the beginning, for a period, the OMG Mara actually *looks* like you, too, ain't that kewl? **grins, kisses** Talk to ya in an hour. :)

Coyote honey... I think you may have a love bias... I've seen the OMG version of me... I'm not THAT hot. *giku* Until my hair finally grows out I look like a reject Amelia... and it's killing me!!!!!!!! (::sniffle:: I want a long braid like Duo has... It goes with my Shinigami role...)

Kitainia>>Welcome back Mara! Thanks for explaining your interesting name origin. Even though I've studied Buddhism and have a few friends who follow it, I did not know that part of the Buddha legend. <smiles, wondering if like all legends should be, this one will ever be worked into Gargs>

Imagine learning the legend from your Art Histry professor and then have him blink and look diredtly at you and say in the middle of class. "Hey, your name is Mara too"
Hmm... ::gooey eyes as she daydreams a more Godlike version of herself in Gargoyles:: Sore wa Genki! ::runs amok happily in her unshared daydream:: Genki Genki Genki!


Mecord>> <I have no fear of death> Neither do I. I consider myself (and everybody) immortal anyway. Death is just a transition from a spirit with body to a spirit with no body. It’s not like we cease to exist. If anyone believes other wise, that’s okay, we’ll talk in about 50-100 years. ;)

I'm always up for talk.. and I think I'm free in a hundred years.. ^_^

Stormy:: As is the origin of my birth name, meaning "bitter" or "rebel." Ironically, most baby-name books make up a more pleasant interpretation, such as "Chosen of God" or something like that...something taking more from the Biblical figure who bore the name, and less from the actual origin of the name itself before a certain Mary became THE Holy Virgin Mary.

Well... if you want to be flippant about it, anyone who is "chosen of God" tends to be a rebel. I mean, Jesus...!! (Literally!!) The Jews were pretty much the first big time religion to have only One God, Jacob meaning "heel" (father of of the two "fathers" of Islam and Judaism) tricked his older brother out of his inheritance... God likes rebels. (but then again they tend to suffer a bit for that love, buts that another story)

~~And I agree with you totally on death. My father is the local cemetery director, maybe I can blame him. You've got to love it when Christmas dinner gets cancelled, on account of having picked up so many free sandwiches after the funeral he attended that afternoon (Yes, a funeral on Christmas eve--and instead of turkey and stuffing, we got leftover funeral sandwiches and squares). I kid you not, Dylan was here and he saw this. What REALLY made him spit out his sandwich was when Dad got to musing about how they build coffins in the old days, and Grandma said, "let me get the pictures and we'll find out."

Omigod that is so COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adopt me?

Warpy::Mara: So, now we know the origin of your name... funny, I percieved you as more of a deity of Chaos, Confusion and Chibis rather than Death and Destruction... ;)

Eh.. same thing... pretty much

Mara> Are you still at the same e-mail addy, (Sevarius voice) or has that changed?

Hmm? Oh my e-mail is still MCordova999@hotmail.com

Mara Shinigami Cordova - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 04:50:01 PM
IP: spider-we071.proxy.aol.com

PROBLEMS 1100 ZXI
Richard Secretan - [rsecretan@calientnet.]
santa barbara, ca, US
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 04:43:19 PM
IP: cache2.avtel.net


Cassandra: actually, i brought the stack of towels; i think Aaron added the hangars for them.

also Cassandra: i'll go check your work....and feel free to rant about Hercules/Xena. {i've got a few nits about them too; but they're a good morality show}.

Warpmind: Takk, min venn; and i replied again.

also Warpmind: maybehaps you're changed beyond recognition at the speed of light or faster?? ::)


Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail .com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 04:08:46 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Noted Warpmind
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:55:17 PM
IP: dt016n52.san.rr.com

Aaron roars into the CR on a classic 60s Harley, wearing an Aussie campaign hat, and blaring NIN's StarF**kers Inc. at full volume.

Today is the b-day of Dennis Hopper and Trent Reznor, so rejoyce. And avoid rednecks with shotguns.

Mec/Coyote> Interesting info on Raiders.. Thanks. Why is it that improv scenes with Harrison Ford are always such classics?

Coyote/Jannie> The guy holding the limbo pole, unless I miss my guess, is Anthony Zucconi, wearing his Tony Dracon costume.

Cassandra> No problem.

Mara> Are you still at the same e-mail addy, (Sevarius voice) or has that changed?

Mandi> Sorry. I know how you feel. I'm still p!ssed at CBS (aka the network with no balls) for the way they treated American Gothic and EZ Streets.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:48:16 PM
IP: ppp-168.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

James Birdsong: You may have thought up the Happy King, but I use the Grinning Demon. Note the horns. ]:)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:45:12 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**Mandi trudges in**

Well, this should teach me to jump to conclusions. Now it seems that the UltimateTV up-fronts were WRONG. CBS has apparently cancelled N&A in favor of some formulaic cop show called CSI. Which pisses me off, since now that there's a good lead-in Fridays at 8 ("The Fugitive" remake), they decide to axe the show. The final decision is going to be released at 4 pm EST, but it doesn't look good.

I've been calling the CBS offices like crazy, but I don't know. If it's truly gone, my reason for watching CBS at all goes with it. Sigh.

**Mandi trudges out**

Mandolin
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:35:39 PM
IP: imacache.iximd.com

Warpmind> Just so you know. It is I who thought up the happy king look -> ]:). **Not a Buffy spoiler** Loved that episode **End**
James Birdsog - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:30:31 PM
IP: dt016n52.san.rr.com

*Warpmind pops in again.*

Rodlox: Got it, and the phrase in Norwegian is "Takk, min venn." I believe it is "Danke, mein Freund" in German, and that's about the limitations of my lingual knowledge. :|

Name: I developed my name on the double meaning of Warp, it being either twisted beyond recognition, or the speed of light... :)

David G: Ah, good, you *are* aware that the sai is a club: Actually, with its fork-like design, it is far better suited for locking a sword than a dagger is... and, of course, placing the long middle spike against your adversary's neck, and stabbing is rather... bad for him. ]:)

Well, cheers.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:07:13 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hyperion> They're designed for parrying. They have really wide quillions, often curved so that they will tend to catch a blade rather than deflect it. They're also about two feet long from pommel to tip, more like very thin short swords than true daggers.

Then there's some skill involved. You're not just blocking your opponent's sword, you're taking control of it with constant pressure and by angling it away from yourself.

Even so, you have to move quickly. I've held an opponent's sword long enough to count to five in my head, but that was about it. I can do it longer if I'm not trying to do anything else, but that's not very useful for killing him.

Imagine it this way. You swing your sword down and in, trying to hit me at the joint of my neck and shoulders.

I bring a dagger up, catching your bastard sword in the crook between my blade and quillions. My leverege is better than yours because I'm closer to the fulcrum (sp?). If I start pushing your sword up and out, in the opposite direction of your swing, you can either back away, or try to overpower me.

If I ALSO move closer to you, I'll be ruining your leverage even more because I'm pushing your sword into a bad position. You can use your arms and shoulders, while I can use my whole body. Assuming we started fighting at about 5 feet apart (fairly average), I only need to take two steps before I'm so close to you that your sword can't effectivley hit me anymore, and you can take a full step back and still not be out of my thrust range.

It's not a very comfortable tactic, but it's quite effective if you have the speed and the courage to pull it off. Everything depends on being able to defend yourself long enough for that one crucial parry where you catch your opponent's sword. An opponent who knows what you're doing will stick to sniping at you and never give you the chance. Then you have to find some other way to close.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:02:23 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*Hyperion wanders in an immeadeatly lays siege to the buffet bar*

Sorry, hungry....
So good news, I might have a lead on a job for the summer.
I don't quite know what yet, but a frined gave me a number and and name. I'm going to call after lunch :-)
David G> I don't think the daggers would be all that good for parrying... and I can think of at least five ways to easily cover anyway you intend to dodge.
I'm sure it's a legit strat, I just don't quite grasp how it would work in a meele with someone with a bastard or long sword. <shrug>

I wish I had time to write more, but today's my day as a domestic. I get to sweep, swab, and dust. Yay.
And I wanted to waste tome with Bryce...(Details: I picked up Bryce 3d and Poser 4 yesterday. Great 3D graphics programs.) If anyone's interested, I'll post what I've dones so far.
*Kifing a plate of food, Hyperion quickly leaves through the _back_ door*
*note: giggling*
*******************
I'd like a veggie burger, please.
Of course, and how would you like that done?
Rare.
Look, why don't you just grab a bun and make for the salad bar?

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 02:49:01 PM
IP: ehdup-u-91.rmt.net.pitt.edu

*Cassandra zaps a dirty clothes hamper into existance. She finishes toweling off with the towel Aaron gave her and drops it into it. The clothes hamper blinks out of existance.*

Aaron> Thanks.

*Pulls the mop that Winterwolf put into the CR closet out and starts mopping the floor.*

I do try to clean up my messes.

Mecord the Elf> Greetings. And I hardly ever Panic. But Pan is a fun guy to hang around with. As long as you don't piss him off.

Rodlox> Don't you ever read my stories? Okay, it's been a while since I added any to the Fan-Fiction Archive. Don't you read anything by that hack Homer? However, "Cassandra" is a common Greek name and the "Hercules" writers should be praised for correctly using Greek items. But I won't digress into my rant on "Hercules" and "Xena". As a character, Cassandra is a halfling gargoyle raised in ancient Troy (as in Battle of, Trojain Horse, Achilles and Hector) and has survived to the present day.

*Finishes mopping and puts the mop back into the CR closet.*

Now, onto reading! And then to homework, yuck!

Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 02:38:46 PM
IP: 204.196.27.21

Warpmind> RE: Sai/Dagger. Yes, I realize a Sai isn't useful as a dagger. What I said was that the principle behind using Sai against a Katana was roughly the same as using a parrying dagger against a raper. If you can close, the leverage your opponent's longer reach depends upon is reduced, and you can beat the crud out of him in the manner you think best.

Personally, I like to press against his buckler and stab him in the kidney over and over, but that's just me. :)

That also wouldn't work with a sai vs katana, since most Kensai don't use Bucklers. Besides, a katana isn't QUITE as usless at close range as a rapier. Once I've closed with my two daggers, all I really have to do is keep my opponent's blade away from my throat. In the time he has before I kill him, he doesn't have enough flexibility to get in a kill anywhere else.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 02:36:04 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

** Dramatis Personae: Niamhgold **

Nerd Test: Apparently, I'm a "Closet Nerd." But I'll have to try taking the test again sometime; I'm not in college yet, so I haven't had the benefit of lectures and stuff. Additionally, I'm one of the rare people who have never seen an ep of Star Trek; now, this doesn't mean I'm not a nerd--it just means I was too busy reading the dictionary :) Seriously, I _love_ reading the dictionary, determining word roots and such. Shouldn't that earn me at *least* a 75% Nerd Rating? :)

Gside: << litterarily talented (was that a word?) >> Well, could be an Internet-ese word...but the closet word you can find for your definition is "literately." Although it normally means "able to read," its archaic definition is "versed in literature." All right, all right. So I need more reading material /;)
So, now you're an uncle :) That's a good thing! You get to see the kid on all the good days...and let the parents deal with it on the bad. And an extra mind to warp is never that bad, huh?

Winterwolf: Sorry I didn't inform you about my trip to NY! It was a last minute thing, and I went w/ a couple of friends. I always go there to haggle in Chinatown--although, I tend to harrass the Chinatown in Boston more frequently, and I think the Boston Italian sector is sick of seeing me, blood relation or not! :) How do you like living there?

Meaning of my name: "One of the golden Niamh" :) I like *inventing* names much more. I love learning name meanings.

Well, I outta exeunt while my state of euphoria still reigns...

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 02:34:04 PM
IP: lac-flex173.ncia.net

DPH: > Re: What was the source for the 'fact' that the Pretender has been cancelled? Same question for Profiler. >>
The NBC Network itself. Thats where the other sources, ie Showbiz, Ain't It Cool News, etc., got the source.

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 02:07:39 PM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Can someone provide of which images have been not picked out by various folks?

Nerd Test - I am a NERD WANNA BE, which I disagree with.

SPAM TEST - Last week I changed email addresses on my forms. So far, no spam has showed up at my new email address. If this keeps up, I'll be happy.

**NBC QUESTIONS**
What was the source for the 'fact' that the Pretender has been cancelled? Same question for Profiler.
**END NBC QUESTIONS**

I can't believe how close I am to being able to afford to buy a new PC (of my preferences), if only I still had a job. The Census Bureau was so picky that a certain mistake can lead to some being terminated. 2 mistakes on the payroll and a person gets the pink slip.

I talked to a career counselor today and I'm going to rework my resume (yet again) and hopefully, it'll be right THIS TIME.

Translation of my name from Hebrew: Daniel = God is my Judge, Paul = Little

**BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA continues**
"You look human," said Jason Filler and Plastique Saber at the same time.

"Can you be more specific?" said Winterwolf.

"Ok. You look like you're in your early twenties .." said Plastique Saber.

"with Silver White hair, Bluish Gray eyes, 6', ..." said Jason Filler.

"medium built with light tan skin." said Plastique Saber.

"I see something completely different," said DPH. "You look like a werewolf. You have silvery white hair, icy blue eyes. You're 6' 6" with a strong build."

"Why did you something different, DPH?" asked Winterwolf.

"Simple. You have an illusion spell and I can see partly through it due to my knowledge of magic," replied DPH.

DPH told all present everything he knew about NCA, DC, Mr. Connect, SuperSpeed, and Netlag.

"That ring I made for you, Jason Filler, enables you to have most of Mr. Connect's powers. Have you finished the first task yet, Jason?" said DPH.

"Not yet. When can I have the new ring?" asked Jason Filler.

"Not until you master the tasks I have given you. I confess I'm not a very good teacher when it comes to mental discipline and concentration," said DPH to Jason.

DPH said to everyone, "We need to visit two people: Self ReBoot and Stable Operating System. I have prepared two magical balls with arrows pointing on them: one will always point to Self ReBoot and the other to Stable Operating System. I don't know where either of them lives. How does everyone propose we split to visit both of them?"

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 01:55:50 PM
IP: 150.208.124.207


Warpmind: got it and replied. btw, how do you say "thank you, my friend?"

for that matter, how do you say it in the other languages used by the CR-dwellers in their native/secondary tongues?

that question is optional!!

Rodlox
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 01:53:39 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*Warpmind pops in, quite drenched. Chibis follow, equally drenched.*
Well, it is the Norwegian National Day, and the rain is pouring down. I'll have to have a word with whoever's manning the weather control station today... :(

Nerdity test: Pity so many of the questions cannot be properly applied to Norway, mostly due to the low import of nerd-type TV-shows... I wound up with a skimpy 35.80%. :(

Gside: Congrats, compadre! So ye're an uncle now: just remember not to put your niece to sleep with dull technical manuals - the damage may be impossible to mend later. ;)

Rodlox: Just sent off the e-mail with your fanfic stuff. Hope it's all you wanted, and more. :)

Fire Storm: Dude, I've never tried any of the MS Flight sims, PERIOD! (But, at least, they're honest about it - anyone is likely to crash those programs.) Nope, a PC flightstick is ideally equipped with two buttons - one trigger and one on top, for the thumb. Variations, such as an autofire switch, or something, in the pinky area may be allowed. Then, you have over 100 keys that can freely be used for any purposes, with your off hand. (I'd say left hand, but I remembered that a lot of people prefer to use the left hand on the stick. And don't read that sexually, please.)

David G: You mention that a fighter with two sai can defeat one man with a katana... I *do* hope you realize that sai are under no circumstances useful as daggers? Of course, since they're an excellent type of short club (having a pair myself, I can vouch for the great balance in some of them), I'd say the guy with the katana would have a problem when his collarbone is broken on both sides of the neck... :) Ah, the cruel and vicious possibilities... Which brings something to mind:

You know I've mentioned my cane sword, right, gang? Well, the other day I checked the actual legal information on it, and while I can freely *own* it, I can be punished by rather steep fines, or up to three months in the slammer if I actually ever *carry* it anywhere... :( Wilek, we need to get the Nereus Project on the road, and FAST!

Mara: So, now we know the origin of your name... funny, I percieved you as more of a deity of Chaos, Confusion and Chibis rather than Death and Destruction... ;)

Shadowrider: Wearing out mice is a problem I'm all too familiar with - I've no flightstick of my own, so I'll have to borrow... :( Currently, I've worn out the buttons on two mice, and actually worn out the damn mechanics inside a third one... :| So, those annoying little rodents are the most frequently-replaced part of my computer... :( Oh, well, at least my keyboard still functions perfectly after six years. :) Oh, and a tip for the army: if you want to enter the kitchen, tell them you can't cook. ;)

Stormy: While I remember: Welcome back!

Aaron/Mecord: Ah, yes, the marvelled scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark... you gotta love it. :) You see Indy fight a lot of bad guys, and expect a fierce battle, and then Indy just shrugs, like he's thinking "Ah, why bother?", and pulls the trigger... I laughed various bits loose first time I saw that scene. :)

*Warpmind suddenly pulls up some weapon schematics for a sword... a bastard sword with a powerful electric charge...* Heh, so I make a pressure-sensitive trigger through the entire blade, and some sort of battery pack in the handle, or maybe wiring from a battery pack in my pocket, along my arm, and into the handle, which of course is insulated... yes, this should work... *Looks up.* Um, never mind... ;) (Sorry, couldn't resist with all this dueling talk.)

Well, that's about it. Cheerio.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 01:46:12 PM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Coyote: <Just have to find the right movie, though>
You know we are game! (And this time, *I* am paying for dinner, ok? :)
<he camera is a Kodak DC215 Zoom and uses 4MB cards>
It will take my 16 mb and 20mb cards, though.
That should last you through the weekend.
If not...
<Pictures>
Don't you have any better pics of me and LM? :)

Aaron: <I dunno, Phantom Menace comes to mind>
Good point

Gside: <Sorry, but we each have little idosynchracies that we will probably have to explain many times over>
Very true... Maybe every time we say it we should post a complete explination :)

Winterwolf: <Did you get my email and the picture?>
Yeppers.

Computers: WHY must my computer break during my lunch hour?!?

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 01:06:39 PM
IP: dynamiccomp.com

Hey again!

Mara: As is the origin of my birth name, meaning "bitter" or "rebel." Ironically, most baby-name books make up a more pleasant interpretation, such as "Chosen of God" or something like that...something taking more from the Biblical figure who bore the name, and less from the actual origin of the name itself before a certain Mary became THE Holy Virgin Mary.

And I agree with you totally on death. My father is the local cemetery director, maybe I can blame him. You've got to love it when Christmas dinner gets cancelled, on account of having picked up so many free sandwiches after the funeral he attended that afternoon (Yes, a funeral on Christmas eve--and instead of turkey and stuffing, we got leftover funeral sandwiches and squares). I kid you not, Dylan was here and he saw this. What REALLY made him spit out his sandwich was when Dad got to musing about how they build coffins in the old days, and Grandma said, "let me get the pictures and we'll find out."

Dylan was whistling the Addams Family Theme for the rest of the vacation ;P

Yes, this IS just a brief reappearance. I'm staying at Dylan's place for a few days, and then going home for a month, and then to work at the base. I may be back tomorrow for one last visit before I leave PEI.

I actually FOUND Black Arachnia and Thrust at Wal-Mart yesterday, and updated my web page to celebrate.

Stormy
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:46:04 PM
IP: 137.149.136.118

COYOTE - Good Job, Don! Those pics were fan-fraggin-tastic! It was cool that you got one shot of the (in)famous Beer Tasting I hosted, and a shot of the TGS panel the last day. Great work!

Will have more to say later... I got called in on a long shift today. Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:02:50 PM
IP: m185.ieway.com

Coyote TB - GREAT PICS! Thanks for sharing them with us. I was so busy that weekend I missed a lot of that stuff, it is nice to see it, if only in picture form. :)

Jannie - GET DOWN WIF YO BAD SELF! LOL!

CrzyDemona
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:46:58 AM
IP: mp2e10.ez2.net

***Kyryn sneaks in***

Todd and David G.> The A-kon website is www.a-kon.com, or click on my name.

***Kyryn sneaks out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:50:24 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Hi! Just passing some news along.

News on the WB prime time lineup: Roswell is going to have a second season! ^_^ Here is an excerpt:

May 16, 2000 (New York, NY) - The WB Network unveiled its new primetime schedule this morning amid a great deal of surprise scheduling announcements that the network believes guarantees ratings growth for next season. The primetime schedule was announced this morning by Susanne Daniels, President, Entertainment and Jordan Levin, Executive Vice President, Programming.

The strength of The WB's anchor dramas this season will be enhanced in the fall as every one of them is staying in their season-ending timeslots. On Monday, 7TH HEAVEN and ROSWELL; Tuesday, BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER and ANGEL; Wednesday, DAWSON'S CREEK and FELICITY remain stet, with The WB's second highest-rated series, CHARMED, returning to its highly successful Thursday night timeslot at 9:00 p.m. ET.

To read the full article: http://www.crashdown.com//news/604.shtml

*In a blinding red flash Winterwolf disappears*

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:02:31 AM
IP: 206.15.122.13

Todd Jensen> Project A-Kon is an anime convention that runs in the early part of the summer in Dallas. (Technically, it's also in Ft. Worth since it's in an hotel at the DFW Airport...) They have a web page, but I don't remember the URL right now. Since I live about 45 minutes away, I usually just daytrip, but this year I'm going to get a room and stay for the whole weekend. Getting to avoid airport parking is almost worth the extra money.

Hyperion> RE: Daggers. SCA lightfighters use modified fencing equipment. A dagger with quillions that long would be hard to pull off in foam and duct tape. My Amptguard bastard sword has them, though. I love that sword. The blade is offset from the hilt so you can use it like a normal sword, or hold it upside down as an awesome parrying weapon. People get the most interesting look on their faces when they realize you have their weapon trapped in the crook of yours, and you still have another weapon...

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 09:01:14 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*walks in with a sack over my head*

Coyote> argh! I have no idea of what in the world I was doing when you took that picture... I held the pole for the limbo contest at one time, but I can only imagine what was going thru my mind then... hehehe look at where the pole comes out from the tall guy (don't know who he was)... *blushes* You just ~had~ to put that one up, huh? LOL
I will have camera and camcorder at G2K... payback's a bitch, my friend *evil grin and winks*
The *other* pictures are great! Wish you had more :)

Oracle> big mouth! ;p~~ thanks, sis! LMAO

*hides behind Denis*

Jannie
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 07:40:04 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.194.60.houston1.level3.net

What exactly is A-Kon, anyway?

*BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

Both episodes were good ones. I was glad that the damage that Spike did to the group was undone and that they went back to working together, and the fate of the Initiative was effectively handled. (I particularly liked the "Trojan Horse" strategy that Adam used with getting the demons into the Initiative's HQ). The re-animated Maggie Walsh and Forrest were positively chilling.

As for "Angel", I liked how it handled Lindsay's character development, and also got a kick out of the part where Cordelia was on the phone getting decrypting advice from Willow, and in the process, hearing a bit about Willow's own decrypting work on the Initiative's files (it's a lot of fun seeing how they're linking the two series up with each other).

*SPOILERS END*

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 07:37:18 AM
IP: 216.87.46.167.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Begins first try at RP*
Looking over from his chair, he looks the Lycanthrope like creature up and down. Nodding, he goes back to his thinking, then speaks.
"Dude, ya look like a polar white werewolf to me, armor and everything, though I know people made of pure magic, and a large cat/wolf/bear/hyena hybrid. Fiesty critter too. Trust me, your not spookin' me a bit."
Taking a sip of large cup of coffee, he finishes his book, setting it down with the mark in place, and looks back at the assembled group. "I'd say it sounds like you need a hand. While I do already work for United Nations Sanctioned organization, I'm more then willing to lend myself, my ship, and my spear to the cause of good." Taking a small gem like object from his pocket, he presses a button, and immediately a small image of a ship comes into view.
"Meet my ship, my baby, the StormRunner. Modified YT-1400 Corellian light freighter. A bit slower then it's predecessor the Falcon, but the quads on top and bottom, plus the photon torpedo launcher inbetween the mandibles make up for it in a fight. Haven't gotten a cloak on it, because it'd be plain useless in atmosphere, but it gets the job done." Switching off the holo-emitter, he looks up at some of the members of the group. "I know I'm new, but I'd like ya to give me a shot. You'll find I'm a capable fighter and pilot, along with a helluva mechanic to boot. I lend my services to you, that is until the LOF calls me back for a mission." Nodding, he waits for any reaction.
*End 1st attempt at CR RP*

Thanks to everyone who linked me to those sites. Looks like you guys have something like I"m a part of out side the room. HOpe I'm not intruding, a little action's all I like. Anyway, gotta book, final in less then 2 hours, and I"m about halfway finished. Later.



Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 07:09:14 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Hey now... don't be knocking the Cuyahoga. It and Lake Erie are cleaner now than they've been in 100 years. And thanks to US environmental regulations, to find the most polluted river in the world, you'd better look overseas. We don't dischare our sewage water straight into the natural waterways anymore in this country... but there's plenty of 2nd and 3rd world nations where that is still the norm... and a few miles downstream you'll find people bathing and washing their clothes in the same mucky brown water.
Patrick Toman
Cleveland Rocks, yeah baby!
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 06:47:56 AM
IP: 98aa26fd.ipt.aol.com

Coyote Heyla roomie. That is the most flattering picture taken of me in a long time. From that angle I actually look normal weight. To bad the Lady Mystic is over shadowed by those two hulking males, she is quite lost between her body guards. Waves at everyone at the Gathering.
Starsinger
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 05:45:06 AM
IP: proxy-602.public.rwc.webtv.net

**SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT**

So that all my fans are not left hanging while I'm out of town and away from the Internet for a week, I proudly present....

Night of the Symbiotes, Part 2.

Now available at GFW.

<grins>**PLUG OVER**

Gasper: Click my name or visit http://members.xoom.com/DumlaoX/rp/ for a site dedicated to this CR's RP that was set up a while ago. It hasn't been updated in a long time, but it does explain how things got started and some of what's basically going on in the RP action. The main thread Kit and I write with the help of Wilek, SJ, Green Baron, and others anyway, in which we are sort of a super-commando team fighting against Thailog, demon lords, evil clone soldiers, and other assorted bad guys as they try to take over the world. Hope you enjoy reading about it. :) I'll fill in more on the RP if needed upon my return.

See you all then, by the way. This is my last post until I return. Hope you all, like me, enjoyed tonight's Buffy and Angel episodes and will also enjoy the new Timedancer episode. SJ, I will continue praying for your father till he's completely better, hope that's soon. Everyone, I will miss you and hope that you stay well. When I return, my family's visit demands will be appeased once again, and my sister will be a high school graduate. :) Later.

Doug Elder - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 03:22:46 AM
IP: pool-209-138-61-80.dlls.grid.net

Hi, I'm mostly on to add to the RP but I see a few posts I want to reply to. ^_^

DPH> <Link for the nerd test> http://www.frontiernet.net/~jbennett/nerd/

Fire Storm> Did you get my email and the picture? I'll probably send you some more edited pictures as I have time.

Cassandra> <info>You're welcome. I had to revisit the story myself from season 2 myself. *Winterwolf walks up to a wall in the CR and mounts a towel rack for all the towels Rodlox brought in. Looking around the room he drops a basket full of umbrellas, a mop, a slippery when wet sign and a fire extinguisher in the CR closet. Now you should be set in the event of a future emergency.* ;)

David G> <one fighter has a significantly longer weapon> When I used to have duels with some friends there was always some dread when someone decided to pull out and use the pole arm (provided they knew how to use it well). Getting in close without getting hit was tough. There was one guy who could drive you back savagely with his hands held over his head and sweeping the pole arm slicing anywhere thighs to chest in solid back and forth strokes. It was a good thing everything was covered in rubber and duct tape. <daggers with quillions as wide as Nebraska> Too bad we didn't have any daggers like that. :(

Shadowrider> Hope you liked that RP bike race. I should probably wear pants while riding but at least I made sure to wear a helmet! ;) Actually this brings me to the next question. Besides the helmet what is the typical/recommended clothing to wear when riding? Is there any?

Brooklyn> Always happy to help. <Gargoyles movie> Last I heard it was still in production. This only means that it hasn't been outright cancelled IMO though. I'm happy it isn't cancelled but I wish they would put it together and get it on the big screen already.

Gside> <A spanking! A spanking!> I think we've been here before. ;)

Coyote the Bando> Nice job on the Gathering pics!

Mecord> There you are! ("Do I know you? No! But there you are! You're there!") It's been a while. You are right though it has been a really long while since I've seen Archwolf. Let me give him a call. *Winterwolf howls loudly calling all wolves to post. The call travels beyond the CR.* Hope this helps.

RP and Gasper> I find RP in the CR fun. I see it as a way to slowly tell a story over time. I enjoy writing and hope there are those who enjoy reading my ongoing RP. Plus if people read your RP and like it they will probably want to check out your fan fiction. Since they will be comfortable with your presentation style already. I also have a nice bonus working with DPH. He archives the RP I write along with his own on his page. I better advertise now. Check out: http://www.cei.net/~dphofrules/chrons/dphrp.html :)

******BEGIN TINY RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Winterwolf wondered how he looked to each occupant of the room due to the illusion spell. He knew he looked like a human to all the full-blooded humans but these guys were not completely human. "My primary power is thermal reduction. That means I can make it colder. Actually I can use it to freeze objects, create snow, hail or ice." He said. He decided not to tell them that the ability came from the bracers of winter on his wrists. He also decided not to go into details about the all the spells Equus placed on him. He was only curious about the illusion spell and willing to share that piece of information so he added, "Besides that I can work some simple spells. Tell me what do I look like to you?" Winterwolf wondered what the reply would be.

******END TINY RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Good night! Time for me to make a quick exit!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 01:41:59 AM
IP: dialup-209.244.103.182.newyork2.level3.net

Mp3 time. In honor of all the litterarily talented (was that a word?) people in here, I present Moxy Fru:vous's My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors (although I do prefer the liver version's "pulp fiction" to this one's "short works of fiction").

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:55:15 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*opening a dimensional portal, he walks in, and nods to them all.* Evening. Another day, another final, and I just made another $24 For sittin' around and doing very little. Damn I love my job. We had to put lofts away, and I'm doing it for two more days. Only 30 of them left in the building. Heh heh.
Anyway, onto business.

RPing- I've read the rules on it, but I want your takes. Why? And what's the story behind it....looks like a Bulletain board version of some of my Fanfic, which is a cool idea....

Mecord- Yes, part of my characters history is that he found his powers at a young age, and for a while was trapped like Brooklyn, in time, but was able to learn to control his powers. At the proposed end of my story LegionQuest, the main villian is found to be able to traverse dimensions, so Gasper will go off to a dimension where his friends are either dead, killed, or in the case of his girlfriend, raped. Very dramatic, and I look forward to getting to that point. But that is a long while off, lest I get a good amount of writing done this summer. Anyway, in the end, Gasper is a Time/Dimensional Traveler, but likes the world that he lives in....though the real Gasper wouldn't mind knowing how to to do a ki Blast or two, and maybe even how to fly...it'd be awesome....anyway.


*takes a seat in the plush chair away around the crowd. Looking at his watch, he looks at the others.* Hope ya don't mind if I sit and relax for a bit. Later.


Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:44:49 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Coyote>> Ah, thanks for the correction.
Mecord
Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:08:17 AM
IP: usr16.mtwest.net

Apologies for the double-post ...

Mecord, re: "Raiders of the Lost Ark": Actually, Harrison Ford didn't have a cold ... it was diarrhea.

Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:59:44 PM
IP: 216.28.101.167

Oracle: You're *kidding!* I had no idea!! **turns to Jannie, smiles sheepishly** Please don't hurt me. :)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:41:15 PM
IP: 216.28.101.167

**Mecord jumps in wearing a Robin Hood outfit.**

Hello, I was teaching a friend a little archery today.

Sorow>> Pinkeye? Bleh, the worst case of pinkeye was with a dragon I knew. That was not fun. Glad it cleared up for you so fast.

Gside>> I’m sure a gargoyle could slide on a polished floor, they’d just have to lift their toes to keep from gouging.

Doug>> Yes I do enjoy my family. It seems I meet knew cousins (as in second or thirds) at every gathering, I don’t mean just newborns either. I have relatives in every profession from old fashioned ranching to the Secret Service. My uncle is full blooded Navajo (adopted into the family) and we have Asian friends that we consider family in the Philippines. You’re right, I do learn a lot about humanity and the world. I’ll let you know when Infinity Broken is ready.

Anybody seen Archwolf lately?

Gasper>> <I'm also a Time/Dimensional Traveler> You too? One of my spell specialties is the Trans-Dimensional/Time warp.

Stormy>> Welcome back! Is this just a brief appearance?

Aaron>> <a bandit does a bunch of fancy stuff with his sword, and then Indy just draws his gun and shoots him.> Trivia: They had a large battle planned using the sword and Indy’s whip. But Harrison had a bad cold that day and didn’t feel up to the fight. Well, they needed the shot that day so the two combatants and Lucas decided to do it different. Nobody else knew it was going to happen.

Winterwolf>> Ha ha! My favorite line from Gauntlet, “Red Elf needs food, badly.” :)

Cassandra>> Hello and welcome from the land of lurkers, I’m Mecord the Elf. Towels> remember Don’t Panic!

B-sword vs. 2 daggers> *Mec readies his crossbow* I tend to try and avoid close quarters combat, but I have a sword and long knife just in case.

Mara>> <I have no fear of death> Neither do I. I consider myself (and everybody) immortal anyway. Death is just a transition from a spirit with body to a spirit with no body. It’s not like we cease to exist. If anyone believes other wise, that’s okay, we’ll talk in about 50-100 years. ;)

*****RP (you all knew it was coming)*****
On the Avatar as it moves further from Earth.
Thicarrn drops to where Lithanne watches an ongoing battle, “Hey Sis, shouldn’t we help?”
“Those are MIB operatives, have you forgotten we happen to be illegal aliens?”
“Oh right, by the way, who are the Ten?”
“Not sure, why?”
“I was spying on Mephisto, he’s worried about these Ten and wants to lie low while they terrorize Earth. So how’s your research?”
“We’re so low on Magic, there’s no way we can blow the station. But we can destroy the engine or whatever this thing uses for propulsion.”
“How?”
“Steal some explosives from the MIB down there.”
*****END RP*****

Mecord
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:23:21 PM
IP: usr16.mtwest.net

*looks at CB's pics from last year* *LMAO!!* That limbo pic is of Jannie (the one in white). :D~
Oracle
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:14:04 PM
IP: dyn2-tnt1-192.milwaukee.wi.ameritech.net

**LET'S HAVE SOME RP, SHALL WE**

Inside the station wagon pinned down by enemy fire in Clark Mountain Pass, Jammer and Tricia crouch behind the latter's psi-shield, grimacing as it absorbs the heat of a sudden explosion from outside. Jammer looks up as it subsides and grimaces. "Hey," he says, "they just blew up that really well-armored tank we got from the last bunch of these guys we fought. Now it gets destroyed, after all the pounding we gave it!" "I guess they knew its weak point," Tricia shrugs. "Yeah," Jammer nods. "Either that or they had some HE ordinance that could destroy it. Or maybe they just got lucky." "Speaking of lucky," Tricia shoots back, "you certainly got lucky." Jammer frowns. "How so?" "You were able to take your foot off the gas pedal and stop before getting smashed by their avalanche." "Hey," Jammer grimaces. "I don't drive that fast!" Tricia points to something below her. "I notice the emergency brake's pulled. How fast were you driving?" Jammer rolls his eyes. "Are we going to fight, here in the middle of a raging battle?" "The battle's not so raging anymore," Tricia counters. "Have you noticed they've pretty much stopped firing?" Jammer frowns, then listens, hearing only a few scattered gunshots, no explosions or screams. "Our friends," he says. "I've gotta get out there and check on them!" "I'll come with you," Tricia nods, drawing her HK. "But then we're going to have a long talk about your driving." "Whatever," Jammer snaps in reply, draws his own weapon, and then together they climb out of the car.

Meanwhile, on the ridge above them, the four remaining soldiers scramble to fire at Elena with their K3G4s. "Damn it," she curses as their Teflon-coated bullets easily tear through her skin when they impact on her. She scrambles to dive out of range, throwing two energy beams at the soldiers and blasting away two of their number. The other two keep shooting though, and Elena is forced to land, activating an instinctive chameleon power to hide herself once she's on the ground. "I don't see her!" one of the clones yells. "Neither do I!" chimes in the other. "Find her!" Hartlett orders them, cocking his sidearm and grimacing. The clones nod and flick on their IR scopes when suddenly they are both hit by direct head-shots. "What the…" Hartlett frowns, turning as they fall dead and immediately seeing Kit and Stephanie. "Whoever you are, drop the gun and we'll let you live," Kit orders, leveling her laser rifle. "Yeah," Stephanie does the same, "someone's gotta give us answers!" "You won't get any from me!" Hartlett screams back, pulling a grenade and hurling it at them. The sisters drop their guns and dive aside, Kit leaping towards Hartlett while Stephanie slides back and tumbles off the mountain. "She's dead!" Hartlett cheers as Kit leaps on and punches him, grabbing his sidearm and crunching it in her hand as he rolls away from her. "You're next, demon!" He draws and charges his Quarry-hammer. "She's not quite dead," Kit counters, going into a fighting stance. "She's immortal. I'm betting you aren't." "Same for you, demon!" Hartlett roars, then raises the Quarry-hammer and runs toward Kit shouting . The half-garg braces herself and grabs his arm as it comes down, then flings him over her shoulder and off the mountain. "No!" Hartlett screams, then hits the ground hard and falls into the sleep of death. Kit looks over the cliff and nods at him. "Should have dropped your gun," she says, brushing her hands off and sighing in relief.

**PAUSE RP**

Hello everybody. How y'all doing? Everyone having a good week? I hope so, and hope that continues, because as you all know from Doug's post earlier, he and I have to leave soon. We're going home once again, to visit our families. Thus our time with our family here will be suspended. <sigh> I will miss all of you. Stay good people while I'm gone, okay? And be the same wonderful friends you all are when I get back. Doug of course wants the same. So, as I now make my last post for a while, know that we love you all. We will miss you. Try not to have too good a time between now and when we get back. :)

Congrats to all of you who have finished their finals, like we have. :) (No more grades in yet btw, if you're wondering, oh well.) Hope you all did well, and find out whether or not you did soon. Those of you who are still facing finals, good luck on them. Hope they are soon over. To those few of you who are exempt (including you, SOROW), you are all lucky little… <grimaces> Congratulations. Hope you enjoy your free time. (And please, if you value your lives, don't gloat about it. :).

Shadowrider: So they called you up for military service, huh? Well, I wish you good luck during it. Hope you come back with valuable skills for life, and not a mind destroyed by the Pyle Factor (if you've seen Full Metal Jacket, you'll know what I mean). Have a good time during it also. We will miss you during your times of absence. Doug and I have come to consider you a valuable friend even though you haven't been here that long. Thank you for all you have done for us while you were here, especially all the times you crossed your fingers. :) Later, friend, and Godspeed. <salutes>

Cherry Blossom: You wanted the cyber-cookie and almost had it? Sorry you didn't get it. Here's a consolation prize. <Hands over a coupon for one free cyber-cookie at the cyber-cookie store> There, that should work. Hope you appreciate it, and a belated welcome back. :)

To everyone in New Mexico: Good luck with the damage from that big fire. I'm happy that it didn't kill anybody. Of course what it did do was bad enough, wasn't it? <sighs> Hope all the damage is fixed soon, and this doesn't happen again. That's all I can say, I guess.

Welcome back Mara! Thanks for explaining your interesting name origin. Even though I've studied Buddhism and have a few friends who follow it, I did not know that part of the Buddha legend. <smiles, wondering if like all legends should be, this one will ever be worked into Gargs>

Mary: Welcome back to you also. Glad to know you weren't gone forever from here. :) That college-related crisis you're going through is quite worrisome. Hope you can handle it and come out with a bright future. I also hope it helps your parents see reality better. <sighs> If mine had been like that, I don't even want to imagine the effects. Good luck friend, you certainly could use it. :)

Brooklyn and the Armor: I would have liked him to keep it too, for all the reasons Doug mentioned and also because it looks really cool. Definitely more so than his loincloth. But the TGS Staff wrote things another way, and they've done a lot of great stories so far even without the armor, so I guess I can accept it. Just hope the quality of writings and sketches keeps up, and he gets it and Sata back soon. <grin>

SJ: We're grateful to have you as a friend as well. <smiles> Thanks for letting us know your father's getting the help he needs, I hope that his condition continues to improve and he is soon out of the hospital. Doug and I will keep him, you, and the rest of your family in our prayers during our time of absence. I too was laughing out loud at that X-Files episode, the genie was especially funny (and an intriguing character :). Of course, this Sunday is the big season finale ep, which will hopefully tie up many of the show's loose ends and make a few startling revelations also. I'm really looking forward to watching it. :)

**SPOILERS FOR BUFFY AND ANGEL**

Great episode of Buffy tonight. I was quite surprised to find out Riley had a chip in his chest that had been making him have inflated aggressive tendencies (guess this coupled with his love for Buffy to explain why he got out of the Initiave). Bringing Walsh, Forrest, and Angleman back as cyber-zombies was startling too, Forrest in his new incarnation was also very chilling. :) Liked the character development a lot in this ep, as well as the action scenes and the dialogue. The scenes with Xander and Anya sharing their love and Buffy, Xander, and Willow in the elevator were especially enjoyable (favorite line- "Does anyone else here miss the Mayor? He just wanted to be a big snake!"). Liked Riley's developments too, especially when he took Forrest on (though I have to say it was awfully convenient how he was able to extract that chip). And Adam was very good in his final act. So was Spike in this episode, his dialogue bits were very entertaining. Too bad he didn't get his nonviolence chip out, but I guess that may come along some other time. :) The plot of this ep was also very good, I especially liked how they explained Buffy's increased powers and didn't make them permanent. The scene at the end explaining the Initiave shutdown was good too, I can't help but wonder if the government is ever going to do anything else with demon-kind. All in all, a very nice wrap-up of the main plot thread of this season and development of the series regulars. 9/10, thumbs up. Looking forward to the subplots hopefully getting resolved next week. :)

Angel: Great ep of this series tonight too. I really liked seeing the development on Lindsay and his conflict with the Wolfram and Hart partner (who was also an intriguing character, wonder if we'll see him again). His turning over to Angel's side was well-written and well-acted, especially in terms of dialogue. This ep had a good plot too, with many well-written supernatural elements. I liked how they did all the conflict with Wolfram and Hart, and brought in Gunn and his friends. Also nice development on Angel, Cordelia, and Wesley. The blind female assassin made a menacing and deadly adversary for Angel, but was otherwise unremarkable. The ep wasn't about her, so I guess that was okay. Liked having Willow on the phone in this ep too. Liked best of all seeing that scroll Angel found, and wondering what it could mean (could it be the original spell that gave him his soul back?). Hope we find out in next week's season finale. All in all, very good episode. 10/10 all around. :)

**BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS END**

Lady Mystic, Firestorm: Thank you both for the recent CR updates, and the posts that detailed them. I like the new archive format a lot, haven't had time to examine it yet for imperfections but I doubt I'll find any. Hope you will do the same quality job on CR Images. Your hard work is appreciated, hope it keeps up. :) And good luck to you both in all your life hassles. :)

Kyryn: Thanks for the Nerdity Test, it was very amusing. Hmm, I'm only 35.8%. Rats. :)

Coyote: A day off? About time you got one! Congratulations! <high-fives> Hope this will give you some much-needed relaxation time and maybe even allow a little work on WCC.

Spike: Congrats on getting to go to A-Kon. Doug and I still aren't sure whether or not we're going, hope to see you there if we do. :) And Kyryn, we'll also be on the lookout for your blur. :)

Gside: Congrats on becoming an uncle. Hope you enjoy it. I know that ever since my brother had his first child, I've enjoyed being an aunt. :)

Mandi: Now and Again has been renewed? Excellent! Thanks for letting us know, Doug and I will be glad to enjoy that show once again this fall. :) As I'm sure you will.

And until Doug and I return, that is just about everything. See you guys later, all of you have a good week. <grins, waves, then walks off into a convenient sunrise> Until we return, bye! <smiles again, then disappears>

**RESUME THE RP ACTION**

"Kit!" someone calls from below and the half-garg looks to see Stephanie smiling at her. Doug, Boris, and Keith are just behind her along with Jammer and Tricia, all waving. "We're okay!" Stephanie yells. "All of us!" Elena adds, emerging from cover back in her human form and rejoining the group. "Was there ever any doubt?" Kit grins down at them. "These guys were tough, but we always defeat our enemies." She smiles, then leaps off the mountain and glides down to join her friends. After they smile at each other and exchange embraces, she looks at Doug. "You holding up okay?" "Yeah," he nods, "I'm also remembering stuff." "That's good," she nods. "Hope it keeps up." She looks the others over and frowns. "Casualties?" "Lathrop, Orion, and the dragon are all unconscious," Keith answers. "We were gonna start seeing if we could treat them, but Stephanie wanted to check on you first." "Well, I'm okay," Kit replies. "I guess all of those soldiers are dead now." "All but two of the prisoners are too," Tricia grimaces. "Tom's keeping watch over them." "I'm guessing the prisoners were their target?" Doug asks. Kit shakes her head. "From what we heard them say earlier, they didn't seem to believe that. With the enemy all dead, though, I guess we'll never know." "No indeed," nods Jammer. "In the meantime, the tank we had towing the truck's been destroyed. We're gonna have to hope it can run under its own power as far as Area 51. We can probably find someone there to work on it." Kit nods. "And then Lathrop's mechanic friend can do the rest. First, though, we have to see if we can clear out those rocks they dropped on both sides of this pass, get this part of the highway open again. And we have to see to our wounded." Boris grimaces. "That could take a while." "Let's get to it," Elena replies. "No time like the present." "We best work fast," Keith says. "If Thailog or Ted Turner or somebody else makes their move while we're trapped like this…" "They won't," Kit assures him, though her own voice is disbelieving. "We'll just have to hope we have the time to be idle." She sighs and turns away to start walking towards the truck. Doug nods and follows her with the others as the screen goes blank.

**UNTIL DOUG AND I RETURN, WE SUSPEND OUR RP**

Kitainia
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:12:59 PM
IP: pool-207-205-151-107.dlls.grid.net

Cherry Blossom>>> Wendsday? I was mostly sleeping, thats what Nyquil geltabs do to ya, can't handle the liquid form((Nastiest tasting stuff on Earth)) they should have called it the "Night time sniffling,aching how the heck did I end up on the kitchen floor medicine"

Buffy and Angel review
Buffy: May I say whoa! The way the Scoobies reunited and went to take on Adam. I loved Adam's zombots and Forrest of Borg. The way Spike fought the demons and the special effects were all Matrixy. I loved how the four of them were infuesd together. Was anyone freaked by the way Riley removed his chip or Buffy's yellow eyes??? and that Goverment guy at the end was missing something....Oh yeah a cigarette.
Angel:
Angel's belief that anyone with a soul who wants to be redeemed can be proved to be true with Lindsy: He may be one of the slickest lawers in L.A but he does have some morals. Killing children is where he draws the line andit was interesting in a Mission Impossilbe way on how he snuck angel into the lawfirm, and the performance by Gunn was great. One of my favorite moments was When Cordelia was talking to Willow on the phone on trying to get the files un crypted, and that Willow wanted to say "Hey" to Wesley was cute
End Review/Spoilers

Shadowrider>>>Good luck on your role in the army

Alex Destine>>> Havent seen you around, missed ya

until then....I don't have a good way to ending.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, fl, USA
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:08:41 PM
IP: user-37kapfp.dialup.mindspring.com

An early warmup for the Gathering this year ... clicky on my name for those blasted G99 pics I've been tryin' to scan and *finally* got scanned today! :)
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:56:27 PM
IP: 216.28.101.167

Daniel Johnson> <<Although Winterwolf's answer could arguably be right too>>:It all depends on the definition given in the question. I'd think there is a greater likelyhood of multiple answers following his definition (more letters are allowed).

Welcome back Stromy.

People congratulating me> Why? My brother did smething stupid, and now there is a new mind for me to warp beyond recognition. (as a side note, it will apparently be a Garside)

Winterwolf> <<*Winterwolf applauds your answer*>>: Thank you, thank you very much.
<<Bad naughty evil computer>>: Is it time for a spanking? [the voices of but eight score young blondes and brunettes, all between sixteen and nineteen-and-a-half, cut off in a castle with no one to protect them, excitedly repeat "A spanking! A spanking!"]

If I may just take this time to celebrate acing two more courses (Fortran (must die), and Linear Algebra).

Fire Storm> Lot boys: Sorry, but we each have little idosynchracies that we will probably have to explain many times over (one of mine would be "Na zdorov'ya")
<<Where are the other two [most polluted rivers], I wonder?>>: New York and Pensylvania? (I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Cuyahoga was one (ever hear "Burn On"?))

Aaron> <<you plan on upgrading yourself with scrap metal and plastic? Lemme know how it turns out>>: Not what I originally meant, but not a bad idea. I originally intended to say that with the training I should recieve, I should be able to eventually upgrade electrical/electronic systems given raw materials (but you already knew that).

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:19:12 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

I'll say it now and get the happy screeching out of the way. Although the tentative new night and time worries me (Saturday at 8), and although it's not "official," I'm so damn happy because according to UltimateTV...

"NOW AND AGAIN" HAS BEEN RENEWED!!!!! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Okay, Mom wants her computer back now. Til tomorrow, all, just had to gush. :)

Mandolin
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 09:09:25 PM
IP: imacache.iximd.com

Hey Winterwolf!!!

Thanks for the link to the anime site.
It is already bookmarked. Well I just got news of my
finals. My U.S History final is and open book test
over one chapter!! Man that kicks ass!! A whole
semester worth of work over one chapter! It's great Idon't have to study!

Hey does anybody know anything about the gargoyles movie?
Is it still in "DEVELOPEMENT" or have they actually gotten up off there dead asses and done something. I've been waiting for four years on anything substantial.
I'd to see the same kind of effects as were the TMNT
movies. Live action with CGI is like Who Framed Roger Rabbit
on steroids.

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 09:04:52 PM
IP: usr37.cqc.com

*crawls out of the shadows onto a more forward rafter* *tries to pry her eyes open*

okay, I am very tired lately... -_- I almost fell asleep doing my dishes at work today..*sigh* anyways, I have a couple of replies, and then I'm on my way to do school and go to sleep..

Niamhgold< <contact under eyelid> oh ya...I *know* how painful that is..*L* I've done that before too...

SOROW< okay, I'm homeschooled, and have been since seventh grade, so I have no clue about anything. *grins* so would you mind explaining to me how_you got exempt from all your finals?? o.O

Gside< congratulations on becoming an uncle!! have fun spoiling away ;) and btw, definitely soda. :P

firestorm< <Battlefield Earth> *grins* its funny...when you don't watch TV and you don't click on the net ads, you hear nothing about all these things.. ;)

*waves to everyone and fades back into the shadows*

cherry blossom
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 08:56:02 PM
IP: spider-wk073.proxy.aol.com

<Shadowrider appears>

<<<---- I like her too much...

I want to begin by thanking everyone who wished me good luck for my coming military service, particularily (in random order) Winterwolf, Aaron, Rodlox, Stormy, Warpmind and uncle Gside (BTW, congratulations). I feel my heart is warmer by that. I thank you all for the suggestions too, be sure I'll follow them!

Very little replies tonigh...better so, I need sleep...

Niamhgold:> I wait eagerly for it. Expect another bite of translation for Saturday. Naturally, take all the time you need, I'd never want you to get in troubles with your other tasks in order to read my story.

Winterwolf:> Thank you for dedicating me that nice piece of RP. Don't worry: I'll keep on answering you as long as I'll stay, and then...well, there's a lot of people in the CR (Jannie, or Kit, just to mention two) that are surely able to answer you even better than me.

Warpmind:> Something I forgot last time: you're perfectly right about videogaming devices. I can't play with a gamepad, I don't manage to have a feeling with it. Mouse and joystick, instead...Joystick for sure for flight sim (in the beginning I used to play X-Wing with the mouse...very precise shooting, but I destroyed three mouses in six months...)

Stormy:> Nice to see you again. Thank you for the advice. I'm glad to hear it is all right for you. Hope to see you again before leaving.

Cassandra:> Less dramatic entrances? Why? I love dramatic entrances...;)

Nothing more. See tomorrow.

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 07:14:05 PM
IP: h213-18-142.mi2.albacom.net

Mara-ko: And in the beginning, for a period, the OMG Mara actually *looks* like you, too, ain't that kewl? **grins, kisses** Talk to ya in an hour. :)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 06:03:58 PM
IP: 216.28.101.100

Mara> (Joe Bob voice) Well happy day, it's Mara C. Nice to see you back, loved the filk, hope the rest of school goes well. BTW, Mara is apparently the name of a Buddhist demon. Creepy, ne?


not creepy at all ! Mara, Death (or sometimes Fear of Death) was one of the two that tried to distract Buddha so he could not reach Nirvana, The other was Kama , Desire. Thus making the deity KamaMara. Correct me anyone, if I'm wrong. Mara means "bitter" or "briny" or, more accurately, the sea, or the briny liquid within the womb during pregnacy. (If I remember correctly) Mara to the Gypsies was a word for a "weight on the chest" or "stillness" like death, since they pictured death as sitting on the stomach of the one dying until they.. um.. like.. die. It's always had an association with death. Mara, in the bible, is the name a woman (I forget which) took on after she became widowed... to signify the change in her life from Mother to Crone. It is also the more ancient version of Mary, whom I love, and gives me a connection to Her. ( I capitalize the her since she is a diluted Goddess figure. It's my belief system, Deal with it.)

I'm fascinated by my name's origin, actually, it fits my personality pretty well, becuase, while I'm not obscenely morbid, i have no fear of death. I'm comfortable with the idea I can go at any second, as can everyone who is mortal. A lot of people forget that, while we all live every moment.. we die a little bit every moment too.

Dont get depressed, its a good thing! It's a necessary part of living!!

Aaron and Mara-ko, re: Mara's name: Actually ... **pulls out manga TPB he bought a month ago** ... I bought this a while ago because I liked the title of it ... how was I supposed to know that it'd get me involved in the title? (BTW, the book is "Oh My Goddess! Mara Strikes Back!" In the OMG storyline, Mara is a demon third class who terrorizes the heroes on a regular basis. In this TPB, she has a genie named Senbei, aka "Mr. Unhappy." Fun stuff. ;)
\\A demon who terrozies the heroes on a regular basis? Gee is that me or what? :)



Mara "Shinigami" (God of Death) Cordova
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 04:39:41 PM
IP: spider-te073.proxy.aol.com

Spike> I'm going to A-Kon. Registered online sunday, and a friend is got the hotel room monday.

Hyperion> I'm the two daggers guy. A bastard sword is all well and good. In fact, I like it. My favorite Amptguard weapon is a bastard sword.

The problem is, sometimes your opponent has two daggers with quillions as wide as Nebraska, and he catches your blade with one of them while walking up and stabbing you repetedly in the chest with the other one.

Seriously, if one fighter has a significantly longer weapon than the other one the duel becomes a race. The guy with the long weapon has to kill the guy with the short weapon before the short weapon guy closes. Most of the kill power of a sword is out on the "fobile" (the part near the tip).

A dagger has much shorter range, but conversely it's much more useful in close combat. You have to be good at defense, though, because you have to avoid your opponent's initial attacks without being able to reposte. The trick is to get control over your opponent's weapon as quickly as possible. The same basic theory allows a fighter with a pair of Sai to beat an opponent with a Katana.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 04:19:40 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3


Cassandra: ::dumps stack of towels:: here. Troy?? sheesh, don't you watch _Hercules_? ::)

oh, btw: you're welcome!

Rodlox
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 04:18:03 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Aaron wanders in, nearly slipping in the water, and tosses Cassandra a towel. Never go anywhere without one.

Today is Pierce Brosnan's b-day. Not bad for 47, eh?

Thanks to everyone who offered help with the latin.

Shadowrider> Ouch. Just keep your head down, and don't ever volunteer for anything.

Hyperion> Liked the bit about the b'stard sword, but I'm not the two daggers guy. Honestly, anything above a metal baseball bat is a bit out of my league.

SOROW> Exempting all your finals? Lucky. Did you still have to show up for the classes?

Gside> Congrats on becoming an uncle. And If I'm reading your post right, you plan on upgrading yourself with scrap metal and plastic? Lemme know how it turns out.

Stormy> Nice to see you back, even if it is short term.

Spike> I'm A-kon bound. I've got my tix, got my room, and I'm working on my Kaji Ryoji costume. (Yet another low effort costume) Hope to see you there.

FS><<Thats because no movie was ever this hyped and this BAD!>> I dunno, Phantom Menace comes to mind.

Later.

"All good things come to an end, but mediocre things seem to last forever."


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 04:00:31 PM
IP: ppp-55.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

GARGOYLES CEL ON EBAY, and it's better than the usual ones I occasionally see there. I'd bid, but it's from the same scene and SEQUENCE that I already have one from: Goliath, having picked Elisa up into his arms in Awakenings II or III, is getting a verrrrry funny LOOK from Hudson, and he's returning it right back. Clicky biddy.
Pogo
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 03:27:46 PM
IP: cb66666-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com

*Column of purple tinted smoke shoots up from the floor and a silver-skinned gargoyle falls out of it, coughing. Automatic sprinklers kick in as the smoke clears. The wet gargoyle glares up at the sprinklers.*

OFF! *The green bolts of energy from her hands surround the sprinklers and they shut off.*

Last time I try that spell.

Shadowrider>Hello. I've been around awhile, but lately I've just been popping in and out of the CR. I've made a summer resolution to be less of a lurker though. And I've just amended it to try for less dramatic entrances.

Winterwolf and Rodlox>Thanks for the info. Evidently, I need to go back and review second season TimeDancer. And I'm from Troy, Rodlox. <G>

Sevarius Jr.>How dare you give a Buffy spoiler and I don't have TV?! I miss my TV, I miss Buffy, I miss Angel. I even miss commercials. *Sigh* I'll just have to find somebody with a VCR, I guess.

Does anybody have a towel?

Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 02:37:54 PM
IP: 204.196.27.23

Fire Storm: Sure, by all means. Care to make another day of things soon? (ye can give me the cards at that time.) Just have to find the right movie, though ... ;)

Anyway, the camera is a Kodak DC215 Zoom and uses 4MB cards. And would you believe (of all places) I got the thing at K-Mart? Already know it takes great pics (the five of my car are great), now I just have one question about it, though ... I know there's some sort of adaptor you can purchase to view the cards as floppy disks, where can I get one? If anyone here knows, I think you do. :)

**runs off to scan some art and his G99 pics (FINALLY!)**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 01:30:48 PM
IP: 216.28.101.100

Coyote: <no, the camera isn't a Sony Mavica>
Don't worry. Kodak's are better anyway.
Hey, if I let you use one or two of my spare film cards, could you take some pictures for LM and me?
<that's why I bought two more full loads of batteries for it>
FYF, at G98 I used 9 sets of batteries (36 batteries) for 400 pictures (flash and LCD on), and I used 4-6 sets for 200 pictures (2 cameras).
<probably something to do with LM and FS' overhauls>
Nope. We havn't updated that stuff yet. Might be a CGI glitch.
<does not do *anything* with military computer systems>
Officially, anyway.

Christine: <May Sweeps>
Oh, fine. Get your May sweeps story out before mine. FINE! See if I care!
WAit... I don't! ;)

Jenna: <it doesn't look like were gonna make it to the gathering :( Finances, you know>
Welcome to the lonely club :(

Shadowrider: <.not to mention racing bikes.>
And rocket bikes

Gside: <but who are the lot boys>
I swear, I am going to have to put something on my site about this...
In the manual for the Space Quest 4, there was a review about this time pod. In the review, they said that the base price was something like $21,345 and $21,355 as tested.
"The extra $10 was to clean out the ashtrays (dern lot boys!)"
So, that little tidbit just entered into my vocabulary and I use that as a little swear word.
(Also, as someone mentioned, it WOULD be a cool name for a band)
<-LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! I GIVE YOU... THE DERN LOT BOYS!->
<three of the five most polluted rivers in the US are here>
Where are the other two, I wonder?

Warpmind: <Hmmm... must be those xenomorph genes...>
Yep. A biological bike helps too (Nice and stream lined)
<and joystick/keyboard for flightsims...>
Ever try MS Flight Sim with a Gravis pad? Not recomended.
I like my gravis pad for Mario type games, though.

Winterwolf: <So how bad is it? Ddi you loose all your programs as well or do you have copies?>
The PROGRAMS are backed up. It is my mail, CR's, and stories and such that I have written in the past month. It may not be much, but it is annoying.
That also contained the pictures and everything from my laptop (Not sure if my digital camera pics have been backed up.)
<I was wondering about the Thersites image status. Did you need me to send that to you again?>
I think so. It probally got lost in the crash.
<If I make some cool gargoyle pics should I send them to you for the CR?>
If the origional pictures are from the TGS website, definately.
If they are purely your own... you have to ask Robby.
<Maybe a link could be added to go the comment room information page.>
When Gorebash loads the updated CR pages, this CR will have those links on the top of the page.
<I like the idea of gargoyle tails being used to be a useful>
then you should read Spikes and Christines stories ;)

Wilek: <I can manage 3k/s>
A few nights ago I averaged 50k/s.
Man, I *LOVE* DSL!

...and on the 8th day, Man discovered fire, made the wheel, formed a civilization,... made the computer, and made the internet (It was a very busy day), and these were good.
On the ninth day, God was on the internet finding out just how bad civilization was, when he complained about the speed of the internet to Man.
So Man, in his wisdom, created DSL. And it was very good :)

Robby: Oh, you just reminded me...
You said I can use any image on the TGS website.
Define "TGS Website"
The stuff that was already in the stories and art archive, I understand.
But what about some of the older unused stuff in the secure directory?

Skippy: <I can't afford to get the ridges surgically embeded into my forehead.>
But if you could... would you?
Saw the link about the Battlefield Earth reviews... Why must everyone bash Howard the Duck?

Entity: <In any case, a 20 GB hard drive would probably be cheaper than a year's purchases of CD's.>
DEFINATELY!

Gasper: <Does this happen often?>
Every sunday
<do people still read the previous day's post?>
Usually

Battlefield Earth: If it is that bad, I'll wait for it to come onto Showtime.

Cherry Blossom: <I've ~never~ heard so many bad things said about a movie>
Thats because no movie was ever this hyped and this BAD!

SJ: <Buffy's powers get jacked up to the MAtriX>
She is the one!

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 01:15:21 PM
IP: dynamiccomp.com

***SEMI SPOILER FILLED TEASER FOR TONIGHT'S BUFFY EPISODE!!!!****
Tonight, on Buffy.....

Riley (sort of) begins to see things Adam's way.

The Iniative blows up real good.

Buffy's powers get jacked up to the MAtriX.

Somebody comes back from the dead (well, more than just one...).

Oh, and I almost forgot:
Somebody DIES.
****THIS CRUEL LITTLE TEASER BROUGHT TO YOU BY SJ****

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 01:14:02 PM
IP: jc-341-02.labs.gmu.edu

Hmm.
**PRETENDER COMMENTS**
There are only a few things I want to know about the Center. One is to see the actual hiring process for a sweeper and cleaner. Another is to see more background history of the Centre (how the Parkers got involved with a group from Africa.) The other big relevations (besides projects) are who the heck the Triumverant are. I would like to see the series end with closure, but unfortunately that would take at least 1/2 season to shut down the Centre and Triumverant. I thought 'Profiler' could be used to help shut down the Centre and Triumverant. However, closure for Jarod and Ms. Parker won't be the demise of the Centre. In order for Jarod to shut down the Centre, he'll have to reveal his secret - he's a pretender - and then the real problem begins. So Jarod has a big dilemna when it comes time to shut down the Centre. It'll boil down to a choice of evils for Jarod: hunted down by one group or hunted down by unknown people. Another dilemna I'd like to send Jarod to is time-travel. Jarod has to decide whether or not being kidnapped by the Center should happen to him.
**END PRETENDER COMMENTS**

**PROFILER COMMENTS**
Does the series need a main villain? No. In fact, I think the writers should have worked on building character depth for EVERYBODY from the beginning. When the original profiler left, I saw more conflicts involving the characters than before she left. The story, IMHO, shouldn't revolve around the profiler as much as around the VCTF members. That way the story is more flexible if anybody decides to leave.
**END PROFILER COMMENTS**

Where is the link for the nerd test?

Chaos erupts
**BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA**
DPH just completed the spell giving most of Mr. Connect's powers to holder of ring. He was happy to have most of the powers transferred. He heard a knock on the door so he headed to the door. Along the way, he noticed a stranger in his home.

"Who are you?" asked DPH.

"I am Plastique Saber. I was sent to visit you by an acquitance of yours - Ms. SuperSpeed - to help you. Jason let me in the door. Why didn't you help him some more?" asked Plastique Saber.

"No time for that right now," replied DPH as headed to the door.

He opened the door to see an injured something humanoid.

"Are you Winterwolf?" asked DPH.

"Yes, are you DPH?" replied Winterwolf.

DPH summoned lightning to bring Winterwolf back to 100% health and succeeded.

"Yes. Is that better?" asked DPH.

"Much better. What is ITAG and how did you do that?" replied Winterwolf.

Plastique Saber headed toward the door when she heard the word "ITAG".

"ITAG - perhaps another guest of mine could help explain that one. How did I the healing stuff? Easily. I'm a mutant with powers to control lightning to do various stuff and I also know magic. Plastique Saber, why don't you introduce formerly yourself and Winterwolf." said DPH.

"Ok. I'm Plastique Saber. I work for various assignments from ITAG - an organization of mutatants and other 'gifted' people. I can convert anything into anything else. What about you, Winterwolf? What are your powers?" replied Plastique Saber.
**END BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:32:19 PM
IP: max1-34.cwy.cei.net

Hiyas! I'm sleepy today so I'll be brief. No actually I'm still Winterwolf but the post will be short. At least that's the plan. ;)

******MINI TD SPOILER******

Cassandra> Welcome! <who is Payne> Payne first appears in "Trust No Future" a season 2 episode. http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/td/season2/trustnofuture.html Payne makes his second appearance in "I Am Become Death" a season 3 episode. http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/td/season3/iambecomedeath.htm At this point he becomes Brooklyn's timedancing partner. Neither of them is happy with the arrangement. It looks like he's going to around for the time being. Hope this helps.

******END MINI TD SPOILER******

Nerdity Test> Kyryn I only got 37.40%. This seems kind of low to me. At least I'm above Nerd-wannabe with Closet nerd! ^_^

Gside> <SWIMS> Are you just brilliant? ;) *Winterwolf applauds your answer* <an uncle> Congratulations uncle Gside! How do you feel? Ready to pass on your knowledge and experiences?

SOROW> <exempt from finals> WOW! I remember the only way to be exempt from finals in any class I was in was to have an average of 100 (classes with numerical grades) or an 'A' average (classes with letter grades). To do this for all your classes is outstanding! ^_^ *The happy dance for SOROW continues.*

Calopie> <dumb comp got retarded and didn't post it > :( I've lost long posts too. Bad naughty evil computer! <last final> Summer vacation here you come! Enjoy!

Stormy> Hi Stormy! I'm happy to know you are doing well. I'm a-okay myself. Thanks for asking. ^_^

Okay that's all for now. I think I better go grab some lunch before I dive face first into the keyboard.

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:02:39 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

***Kyryn sneaks in****

Rodlox> I think that equates to 'Your social life needs help'. There's a list at the bottom of the test that breaks down your scores.

Spike> I'll be working at A-kon as one of the guest relations staff. If you look fast, you might see me fly by on the way to fix something. :) Friends have described me as 'that whirling blur'. Seriously, I'll keep an eye out for you on Saturday. I know that if it gets finished on time, I'll be wearing a cheung-sam (Suzie Wong) dress with gold and white dragons on it Saturday night.

Later All!

***Kyryn sneaks back out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:59:31 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Hello everyone!!
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna make fun of Caliope here!
Keep doing whatever u were doing before!

*sits next to Cali*
U baby! :P
(yeah, that's right!... the other, other white meat!... BEBE, it's what for dinner!)
You just wont believe how much i loooove to say that! ~_^

Your last final already!??.... NO WAY!
*now pouts herself*
*Cali points* Cali: U BABY!! :D
Alex: -_- *rasberry* =P~~~~

Oh FINE!... be that way! ^_^
So, u like Kodocha!??....
isn't it cuuute! :)
I'm telling ya! the 7th tape has to kick @$$ :D

Well, i'm outie!
*grabs a squid hat and places it on Cali's head*
Old habits die hard,.... even if they're YOUR habits! :P

*gets on a jumper-scutter and leaves the room while knocking down valuable items*
aka: The Mona Lisa <-- what the heck was THAT doing here??
one of the engines of the TITANIC <-- same question!
a bowl of CornPops <-- oh no! Not that! :P
the statue of Todd <-- Oh my GAWD!... i'm sorry! I'll pay for it! promise!!!!
*huggies for all* ^_^

Alex Destine
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:54:45 AM
IP: 136.145.83.190

Another quick note:

I've removed the CRs that were archived on my site since the official archives are now up-to-date. I will continue to keep my own local archives just in case and will continue to mirror the current CRs. Also, for Lady Mystic and Fire Storm, I put a more complete archive of the CR from 4/16 on my site. We now return you to the CR already in progress.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:16:58 AM
IP: ppp-05.rb5.exit109.com

My fellow Texans: I'm thinking about going to A-kon this year -- anyone else going? I'll be there on Saturday. Mind, the last time I went, I was met by a big Klingon with a funky-looking sword. (I don't think it was Skippy!)
Spike
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 09:45:42 AM
IP: pppt10-154.ght.iadfw.net

In a rare guest appearance...

Hi everyone, how's it going?

Sevarius: Best wishes for your father.

Shadowrider: Ah, a fellow military type (or about to be.) Follow orders, don't take any crap the sergeants spit on you too seriously (its nothing personal, they hate EVERYONE) and see if you can get something useful out of the experience.

In my life--Im' out in PEI with Dylan. He's working in the bog today studying pitcher plants so I'm in the computer lab, about to have lunch and then go to Wal-Mart in pursuit of Blackarachnia and Thrust. My life received a special pickup when we went to the States to see Cyrway/Cavalier and Mercedes, and I found a Silverbolt Fuzor (on sale too) after wanting one BADLY for almost a year. So i'm doing well.

See you all later.

Stormy
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 09:03:17 AM
IP: avc57.stu-avc.upei.ca

*walks in pouting*

Oh poo! I wrote this lovely little post yesterday and this dumb comp got retarded and didnt post it and now I forgot what I said and dont feel like writing it again!

I´ll just sit here and pout!
*sits and pouts*
....
Ok, maybe I should go read up on my last final...Did ya hear THAT!!! LAST FINAL!!!! Woohoo!!!!!!

Bye everyone!!!! *HUGZ all*

*bounds back out of the room into the library*

Caliope
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 08:41:37 AM
IP: 136.145.83.210

Just enough time for some quick comments.
----

Gside:
Yep, you got it. Should have known... :) Although Winterwolf's answer could arguably be right too.
----

Lady Mystic/Fire Storm:
For the week ending 4/16, the official archive is missing the last two days. I have it. I'll see about putting it up on my site, but I don't have time right now. And yes, I do have archives of the S8 CR since the end of March, but not anything else.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 07:54:58 AM
IP: ppp-39.rb5.exit109.com

OH OH! BIG BOB LARSON NEWS!!!
Inside Edition is going to run a big expose' on Bob tonight on the show! I can tell you that everyone in the BLFC is just exstatic over this turn of events! Considering Bob has lost his #1 station just last month, this story is coming at the worst possible time.

Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 06:43:14 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-15.ultravision.net

I am now officially an uncle. Ashley Raven (well, we're not really sure about that last part) was born earlier this (last?) evening.

Gasper> <<I didn't know that Dragoon was a projectile anything>>: Apparently there was a Colt Dragoon Pistol (see http://www.americanwest.com/pages/gunsoutl.htm )

Mara> <<Gside... no need to be so... literal, on all three counts>>: I've said it before, I'm a pedant, "a person who is too interested in formal rules and small unimportant details." Perhaps it derives itself from the negineering nature of my brain, maybe I need to be locked away.
On the second count, that came from (mostly) my previous discussion with the good Mr. Johnson about edibility and state hospitals. The third count is mostly about the flashyness inherent in male (?) cross dressing, combined with the current similarity in male and female casual dress (contrasted with times more than 50 years ago).
<<Do I need to explain myself to death?>>: It would prabably help.

Aaron> <<And also not have to upgrade my car stereo>>: An admirable amgition, but as I am doubple majoring in two computer fields, upgrading is in my blood (and I should be able to eventually do it with scrap metal and plastic).
<<I'll bite, what is the Cow Level?>>: There Is No Cow Level. It is a mythic easter egg in Diablo, supposedly reached by attacking the cows by the crypt entrance. For a look at how it might have been, look at the April 1 screenshot for Diablo II. Also, the phrase "there is no cow level" was a cheat code in Starcraft to complete the current level, paying homage to the rumors about Diablo.

Nerd test: 71.60% So many questions I said "I wish."

Shadowrider> Best wishes for your future in the military.
<<Sorry, and thank you for correction>>: No need to apologize. I'm almost surprised by the lack of errors from those visitors for which English is a second language.

Cherry Blossom> <<the soda/pop debate>>: Soda.

SOROW> <<I'm so sorry>>: Not a problem in the least. It was about time that happened (especially with my Warpmind/Winterwolf faux pas recently).
<<You and I have a lot in common>>: Perhaps so, perhaps not. I only said I watched them, not whether it was willing or not (mostly yes). After the hundredth time you see each Sandler movie, it starts getting old. Though, I do readily admit they are quite entertainting. (And I would so like a USB jack in my neck)

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 04:22:10 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*Warpmind enters.*

Gasper: Oh, good... but in my opinion, any gamepad is bad... I advice mouse/keyboard for most games, and joystick/keyboard for flightsims...

Mara: He's a mutate with electric powers... do you really think he'd use his teeth? :|

Be greeted, Cassandra. Welcome to the madho... uh, the CR.

Aaron: Oh, okay. :)

Shadowrider: Perzacktly the problem... :( (That's one occasion when the "Invulnerability" flag is convenient, believe you me... :| Oh, and compadre... good luck.

Sorow: At least you got the joke before I had to go into details. :)

Well, hasta la vista.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, May 16, 2000 03:18:41 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

I'm exempt from all my high school finals. YEAH!

Warp> Oh yeeeaaaahhhh...*slaps hand to forehead* Sorry, I've been a little slow lately. Yeah, that was funny. :)

Gside> I'm so sorry. I see the dark blue and I automatically think of Wilek. Like I said, I love Adam Sandler and the Matrix. You and I have a lot in common.

Winterwolf> Thanks! *joins him in the happy dance*

SOROW
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:51:59 PM
IP: dll2a020-0756.splitrock.net

Hi everybody! The following RP is dedicated to Shadowrider who will not be around as often after the 21st of June.

******BEGIN RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

In another hour Winterwolf would be at DPH's house. He was near the top of a mountain as he was making a turn. He was going slowly, as the road was wet and slippery when he almost ran into a crowd of people. He managed to avoid them and come to a stop. They were blocking the road. A large roadblock covered both sides of the street. He noticed each person had a weapon. The most common weapons were handguns of some sort. The rest included some knives and rifles. "What's going on?" Winterwolf asked.

"If you want to get out of here with that bike of yours then you have to race us, the Speed Stars, down this mountain. If you win you get to keep your bike. If you lose then it is ours. If you don't race then we kill you and take the bike anyway." A tall Goth punk replied. The gang eyed Winterwolf with their weapons raised.

"Alright. I'm in a hurry anyway. Let's go."

A bit surprised by the answer the leader of the gang paused for a brief moment. He then got on his bike and rode up to Winterwolf. A few members of the Speed Stars removed the roadblock. "While we're riding down anything goes. Are you ready."

Winterwolf revved his motorcycle engine in reply. He looked down the road. It looked like there were several curves down this mountain.

"Go ahead. I'll give you a head start. You'll need it." The gang leader stated.

Winterwolf started down the mountain road. He had several disadvantages to deal with. His bike wasn't made for racing like the gang leader's bike. He was a decent rider but just in the past few days heading to DPH's he had a few minor spills. The ground was wet from the recent rain and he had never ridden down this mountain before.

Once Winterwolf went into the first turn the leader of the Speed Stars started after him. He figured this would be an easy win. He had an extra ace up his sleeve. If it looked like this loser might actually win there was a surprise near the bottom to fix that.

After the first three turns Winterwolf was bleeding. On the third turn he started to skid a little and he leaned to far into the curve causing his leg to touch the ground. The turn was noticeably sharper than the previous two. The asphalt cut into his leg but he miraculously was able to stay on the bike completing the turn. He continued on more defensively slowing down quite a bit.

The leader saw that it was going to be even easier to win than he thought. Seeing how the race was a joke he decided to have some fun by making Winterwolf fall off his bike. He took an iron pipe that was strapped to his leg into his right hand and rode after Winterwolf.

Winterwolf heard the other bike gaining on him. He decided to even up the odds a little. A small cloud appeared further down the road and let loose a volley of hail at the leader. "All hail the leader." He quipped.

The large pelting balls of hail knocked the goon off of his bike. He tumbled forward on the ground for several yards. After several minutes he got up and ran over to his bike twenty yards down the road. He would not be beaten by one of those mutant freaks from ITAG!

Winterwolf was almost at the bottom of the mountain. Ahead he saw a truck blocking the road. He continued forward right at the truck. Using his bands of winter he covers the ground under the truck with ice. At the last moment Winterwolf turns the bike sideways and skids under the truck. He tears up his other leg badly and falls off his bike. He quickly picks himself up and rides away. A few gunshots ring out from behind him as he speeds away.

An hour later a bruised and bloody Winterwolf arrives at DPH's home. He removes his cracked helmet and limps up to the door.

******END RP - BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA******

Spacebabie> Sorry about my last post. I thought I typed it in but somehow I managed to send you a blank comment. o.O <uses for gargoyle tails> (take 2) I like the idea of gargoyle tails being used to be a useful besides as a whip like weapon. My guess it would help gargs balance when walking, running or gliding. As for swimming I suppose a garg might be able to aid swimming but IMHO I don't think it does much for them in water. (swimming)

Shadowrider> Who will answer all my bike questions? Even though it is a month away, take care of yourself. I'll miss having you around the CR. There is no way you will be forgotten here. :)

Niamhgold> <vacation in NYC> You where over here? Why I am finding out about this after you've left? ;) I glad to hear you had a good time.

Brooklyn> Hey there Brooklyn! For a good anime resource usually start browsing at http://www.anipike.com/. I think it's worth a look.

Skippy the Klingon> You are a noble soul to sacrifice yourself to warn the rest of us. <Shatnerian scale> Well that is a mighty feat in and of itself! ;)

Hyperion> Hyperion needs sleep badly! Or was that food... ;) (Look what you did! Now I have the Gauntlet announcer's voice stuck in my head! Doh!)

I think I need some sleep now too. If you love animation click on Winterwolf and he'll show you a page. Good night everybody!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:45:28 PM
IP: dialup-63.210.223.252.newyork1.level3.net

Hyperion: Ahh, I know Cyberdyne Systems! FYI, everyone who's a T2 fan ... the real life Cyberdyne Systems, to the best of my knowledge, does not do *anything* with military computer systems. **collective sigh of relief** I know because I can get their products through my store ... they produce digital gauges.
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:40:32 PM
IP: 216.28.101.128

*staggers in with a tired, yet determined look in his face*
Grr...Need sleep...
So I have a job that sucks, but pays...and in internship that is fun but dosen't...how to divide my time....?
The job is washing glassware at a lab. the internshipo is with acompany called Cyberdyne Systems
"Cyberdyne systems model T-101"
*Hyperion pulls ut a shotgun and blasts the cheeky bastard*
There will be none of that...
Speaking of which:
Arron> Ah yes, gun fu. One of my favorite martial arts. Jsut put up the twin daggers buddy, I'm coming in with a bastard sword. (it's +2 aginst anyone who dosen't know their father...)
Ok sorry. On that I go to bed.
After the ice cream.
(He he he...)


hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:25:38 PM
IP: ehdup-d1-8.rmt.net.pitt.edu

***WARNING! BATTLEFIELD EARTH SPOILERS AHEAD!***
(If anyone really cares :)

Yes, I broke down and saw it. I'm a sucker for bad movies, and boy was I sucked...

It's bad, no doubt about it. Just for the scene of Dim-bulb the Barbarian sitting in the cockpit of a harrier jet while fighting the Psychlo fighter planes is likely to go down in filmmaking history as one of the most idiotic scenes ever captured on celuloid. Travolta chews the scenery with relish, and in general overacts on a Shatnerian scale. The Psychlos in general looked like Klingon disco dancers (warning to all actors: never take a part that calls for you to be wearing three foot tall platform shoes the whole film) The visual effects were ok, unfortunatly their penchant for moody looking blue monotones made a lot of the effects dull and uninteresting. The stunt scenes using Johhny Goodboy Tyler were often direct rip-offs of more well done scenes: like the slo-mo'ed run through flying debris al la the Matirx, which was longer and more tedious than Keannu's scene.
Since I went into the theater not expecting much, this film delivered. In fact I was highly amused by the general awfulness of it. The over the top nature of the film made it that perfect combination for a Mystery Science Theater film. My best advice for watching this film is to take along a bunch of your friends and play the MST home version as you watch...

Skippy The Klingon
Monday, May 15, 2000 10:03:25 PM
IP: uv1cisco02-34.ultravision.net

Hi guys Brooklyn here!

Just thought I'd drop by and see what going on.
Does any body here happen to like Dragonball Z or Gundam Wing? If so do you know any good sites thanks!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 09:05:53 PM
IP: usr34.cqc.com

Hi! I'm back *V*

Just had a very nice vacation in NYC (only my third time there) and raised heck in Sal Anthony's on Mulberry street :) I just stopped in to make a quick hello

Shadowrider: Hi! Got you e-mail, and I'll read through it tonight/tomorrow and will hopefully have feedback for ya on Weds/Thurs. Check your E-mail around then. :)

Cherry blossom: My painful eye story is pretty simple; try getting a contact lens stuck, and I mean *very* stuck, way up underneath your eyelid. You contact lens wearers who fall asleep with them on should know what I mean :)

Aaron: For a Latin Translation site for words and phrases, try
www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm
Good luck!

SJ: Many wishes for your father; perhaps the hardest part may be just getting over with :)

I've gotta rush back out and make some other replies!

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 09:02:41 PM
IP: lac-flex87.ncia.net

**shuffles into the room** Day off tomorrow ... day off tomorrow ...

Mara-ko: **kisses** No need for the disclaimer, m'dear.

DPH, re: XFL: Well, from what I understand the rules aren't going to be removed so much as they're going to have some institutions from the NFL removed. For instance, certain rules about protecting the quarterback, no instant replay, some reductions in timeouts to speed the games up. The game is basically the same, but it's more along the lines of the game as it was played in the '60s. Does that make more sense?

XenaTrek: Incidentally, about "Pretender" ... the series seems to be winding down, so its cancellation may be planned (there's been some major revelations about the central characters in the last few weeks).

Aaron and Mara-ko, re: Mara's name: Actually ... **pulls out manga TPB he bought a month ago** ... I bought this a while ago because I liked the title of it ... how was I supposed to know that it'd get me involved in the title? (BTW, the book is "Oh My Goddess! Mara Strikes Back!" In the OMG storyline, Mara is a demon third class who terrorizes the heroes on a regular basis. In this TPB, she has a genie named Senbei, aka "Mr. Unhappy." Fun stuff. ;)

Anyway ... that's all for me for now ... **skips out**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, May 15, 2000 08:58:01 PM
IP: 216.28.101.61

*kicks her feet on her rafter and decides not to come down* ;)

hey everyone..life is good..*L*
and now, on to the replies. *g*

DJ< sorry about the one eye thing..I *meant* having two eyes, just with only one working..sowwy..anyways, thanks for explaining about that 3D vision thing!! I don't feel so bad now!! *L*

Mary Flanders< *L* oh boy..what is_the world coming to.. ;) ya know, my mom told me once that my dad used to moon 'most everyone he thought would laugh at it..*g* even the principle of his school....

Gside< fountain/bubbler thing..*cackles* oh, you should see the good sized conversation we can get going on the soda/pop debate!!!! *L* even in RL...*g*

Battlefield Earth< uhh...okay, I had a friend of mine tell me this was a *good* movie..are they insane maybe? I've not heard one good thing about it other than that person...o.O and whats all this about it being related to a Cult?!?! *blinks*

SOROW< glad you're over the pinkeye so fast :)

is it just me or does everyone have a painful eye story? and then we wonder why half of america needs glasses/contacts... ;)

Spacebabie< um..just wondering something here..you said that your cold got to the nasty stage around late Monday/early Tuesday...but then skipped to Thursday...what happened to Wednesday may I ask? o.O

Starsinger< I watched Mulan on ABC ^_^ did you? *grins* I love that movie! I'm sorry..I do..*L*

Mandi< <19 page paper finished> congratulations!!!! *hugs* much rejoicing can be heard from your end I bet. ;)

Skippy< <Battlefield Earth link> *ROTFL* I've ~never~ heard so many bad things said about a movie....

Kryrn and the nerdity test< *g* I got a 38.20% thanks for the test, it helped to take up some of my free time. *L*

and now, I am done....g'bye everyone ^_^

*fades slowly into the shadows*

cherry blossom
Monday, May 15, 2000 07:41:12 PM
IP: spider-wn061.proxy.aol.com


Kyryn: what does it mean when it says: 54.40% (272/500) for my rating?


Rodlox
Monday, May 15, 2000 06:58:24 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com


Shadowrider: HAVE FUN....TRY NOT TO WAGE WAR WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION.

I, for one, will not forget you.

Rodlox - [Babnol]
Monday, May 15, 2000 06:57:35 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

<Shadowrider enters, carrying a blue piece of paper in his hands. He looks at it thoughtfully, then sighs and looks around>

Seems that for a while we won't see very often.

To everyone interested:> A little announcement: just this morning I received my call to attend my 1-year compulsory military service in the Italian Army. In 21 of June (well, at least they gave me a little advice...), eleven days after my 23rd year, I'll leave to join the 84° Armored Battalion in Falconara Marittima. As it is easy to understand, during this period my chances of access to the CR will be drastically reduced. It does not mean I'll leave the fandom, or that I'll leave this beautiful CR, where I had a chance to meet a lot of nice people. I'll try to connect every time I'll be at home under licence (about once a month, I think)...and, in one year, I'll be back again. I am not surprised by the call (I knew they were about to call me this year) but now I'm sad I'll leave this wonderful company. Anyway, there's still more than a month...and I just hope that as I'll return someone will still remember me...

Oh, well, stop complaining now. Not many replies today, I'll do quickly.

Gside:> Yes, I meant pecking. Wrong word. Sorry, and thank you for correction.

Warpmind:> TIE fighter? You mean when you accidentally place a hit on your mothership and it begins to consider you an enemy and shoots at sight on you? I understand the problem (the boring thing is when you are supposed to return to that ship to conclude the mission...)

SJ:> Good news, it seems. I'm glad of it. It is not over yet, but every victory is important. I keep on wishing the best for your father and your family. Again, be strong!

Winterwolf:> <...a guy actually attempt to make a turn just by turning the front wheels of the bike...> unglorious end of a good bike...;). Yes, if you watch a world class biking race, they make impressive bends...and some people try to imitate the champions of the track on everyday roads (I prefer to borrow my dad's heavily tuned Honda CBR and rent some laps on the track near my place if I feel I want to make the road scream), but you're not supposed to do it if you don't want. You have to bend to turn, but it is not necessary to touch the ground with your knee...simply, the faster you take the turn, the more you have to bend. Anyway, bending is not difficult...I have always felt it is a natural thing, because bikes are built to bend. Just like riding a bycicle - you have not to stay and think, just do it, relaxed, and you'll feel like your bike founds by herself the right bend. It is what the Golden Rule means - you have not to force the bike to bend, just let it run, but be always sure you know what you are doing. Hm...it is dufficult to explain it by words...if you'll try, you'll find out. That guy you mention, who tried to turn without bending, probably let himself be scared, so he tried to force the bike...and the result is obvious. This is the reason for which one is supposed to begin with a light bike (a 125cc or so): first, it is easier to control (less weight, less power), second, if you make a mistake, it leaves you margin to repair...and if you don't manage, you have good chances not to hurt yourself seriously (I know what I'm saying, believe it...).
About bikers in NYC...well, I reported what that friend of mine told me. A sign to learn to ride? It is so for sure, so follow it! ;)

Cassandra:> Hm...I can't remember if I already met you or not...greetings, anyway.

Aaron:> Sorry, I don't know ant translation site...if you need help, feel free to ask me...I was good in Latin at HS and, although I'm a little out of exercise, I still remember something...and if I can't, there are some friends of mine who kept on studying it at university...

Nothing more tonight, see you around!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, May 15, 2000 06:49:44 PM
IP: h213-16-13.mi2.albacom.net

Daniel Johnson> five letter word: Just got it: SWIMS

More later, wanted to fire this off before he revealed it.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 15, 2000 06:35:51 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

****Kyryn sneaks in****

A friend emailed me the following link.

Click my name to take the Nerdity Test!

BTW, I came up as 50.40% nerd. I've been hanging around the computers too long!

***Kyryn takes off***

Kyryn - [<<--Clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Monday, May 15, 2000 06:26:52 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

WinterWolf- Nope, I'm actually very strongwilled, and can't be controlled to easily. It'd take a crap load of work to do that. But in the same sense, my anger has been known to be bigger the Bahamut.
Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Monday, May 15, 2000 05:02:28 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4


Aaron: English-to-Latin....only place i know of is LatinLanguage@onelist.com

if you have a specific sentance you'd like translated {as opposed to a poem or essay}, email me and i'll ask a friend of mine {who majored in Latin} to try to help.


okay.

Rodlox - [Babnol@hotmail .com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 04:59:19 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Ah, good weekend all round. (Go NY, Philly, Pheonix, and Utah)

Kit> Accepts cookie. Mmmmm, sugar.

DJ> Thanks very much for the CR archives. That was just what I was looking for. And as for 8-tracks, thanks but no thanks. If I recall, you can't fast forward or rewind 8-tracks.

Wilek> I can understand the other two, but Paint It Black shouldn't be that hard to find, if you're talking about the 'Stones song. And I don't know about MP3s, but I have seen the HoHH soundtrack on sale at Barnes & Noble. (I didn't buy it myself because it didn't have the Manson cover of "Sweet Dreams" on it)

Mary Flanders> According to my mom, streaking used to be a much more common high school occurance years ago. And fear not, I didn't apply until sometime in July, and still got in. (Admittedly, I applied to one of the local schools, and not my first choice, but still...)

Gside><<Heretic>> Yes I am. What can I say, I want one thing in life to stay the way I like it. (And also not have to upgrade my car stereo) As for the hardwood floors thing, Greg won't give us a straight answer. And I'll bite, what is the Cow Level?

Hyperion> Actually that was a joke about Raiders of the Lost Arc. There's a great scene in there where a bandit does a bunch of fancy stuff with his sword, and then Indy just draws his gun and shoots him.

Warpmind> No, not trying to guilt trip you, just explaining why I feel bad.

Mara> (Joe Bob voice) Well happy day, it's Mara C. Nice to see you back, loved the filk, hope the rest of school goes well. BTW, Mara is apparently the name of a Buddhist demon. Creepy, ne?

DPH> I vote for D. HBO.

Does anybody know the address for a reliable English to Latin translation site? Thanks.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, May 15, 2000 04:42:30 PM
IP: ppp-139.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

*((SPOILER FOR XENA?))* Last night I saw Xena Warrior Princess. It's set 25 years later. I saw last week's episode too. How many times it gonna say to be continued I don't know. I will see next week's epsiode too if I can *((END SPOILER FOR XENA))*
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:15:08 PM
IP: dt013n5e.san.rr.com


Cassandra: greetings, oh woman from Atlantis. Payne, if i recall properly, is from the future {'trust no future', i think}, and has a large grudge against Brooklyn, blaming him for everything short of the hole in the ozone layer {or is that on the list too?}. <G>

Rodlox
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:05:04 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com


Mr Jensen: seeing as how i own a copy of 'Barlowe's guide to fantasy', when you said _Afrit_, i remembered the _Ifrit_, which brought to mind an image of something quite similar to Brooklyn.

Rodlox
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:03:19 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Okay, I'm confused. I got behind on my TimeDancer reading. What's the story on the Payne character?
Cassandra - [kindra_coates@hotmail.com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:02:39 PM
IP: 204.196.27.23

Todd>> On X-files, I was thinking the same thing about the Genie and Anya. Intersting how two shows can show us be careful of what you wish for, but then again Puck taught the same lesson to Demona
Any other similarities to Buffy/Angel and X-Files can be contriubuted to Tim Minear and Howard Gordon, both wrote for the Files and now write for Angel.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, May 15, 2000 12:54:39 PM
IP: user-37kapf3.dialup.mindspring.com

Battlefield Earth> Check my name link for the worst of the reviews. It's hilarious reading!

Well, if it's as bad as everyone says, I'll see it anyway. Ihave this self abusive streak and I am curious how bad it really can be...
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:59:00 AM
IP: uv1cisco02-14.ultravision.net

Re: Pretender >> Loved the show from the the 2nd season a friend of my introduced the show to me. Didn't get a chance to see this past season and I'm sorry to hear it did not get renewed. Like you said DPH, there seems to be far too many 'stand alone' episodes. Also I find that the series itself don't reveal enough of the Center itself... it does... but very slowly and it takes a full season just to reveal a little part of it.

Re: The Profiler >> Same story as above, loved it from the 2nd season. I do believe I know why this past season the show itself has lost many of its loyal viewers. One person: Alley Walker. Ms. Walker was the most vital element of the series, after her unexpected exit from the show the series lost its element. I too am sorry to see this series go as well, the replacement is a fine actress, but the element isn't.

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:58:33 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

*Winterwolf tears into the CR on his motorcycle. He turns and skids to a stop almost tipping over. Good thing the room was empty! He takes off his helmet and looks around.*

Brooklyn> Check out Last Week's Comment Room. I left some replies in there for you.

Kit and Doug> <won't be posting in here for a while> I'll miss you two and your massive posts. Have fun! Good thing it is only a week or so. ;)

Doug> <Brooklyn should still be wearing the armor> I definitely think that the armor is cool. I thought that he would be wearing it after he got it from the future clan in 2158. As for the armor making him look less threatening I have mixed feelings on this. Depending on the viewer the armor could give the initial impression that Brooklyn is more combative. (No, don't raise the shields. That might be interpreted as an act of aggression. - Star Trek TNG Captain Picard) Although with his appearance I suppose this may not factor in that much. On the positive side, wearing armor could also show Brooklyn is intelligent. The armor had to be crafted to fit him and it shows that he is trying to protect himself. As for having a reminder of what he left I think the armor would have added to his grief and suffering. I can take this with me but I can't take my love with me. So I could see it going either way but I'd like to see him wearing the armor.

Shadowrider> <road is flooded and you pretend to take a turn at 100 mph> The very idea sounds like it would lead to a lot of pain at best. One thing that kind of scared my about bikes is how much you lean into curves to make a turn. A friend of mine once saw a guy actually attempt to make a turn just by turning the front wheels of the bike. Well he winded up on the floor after that brilliant move. I think it was his first time. Good thing he didn't hurt himself. <very little bikes in NYC> Really? Just this Sunday I saw at least a score (20) or more. Maybe I'm just a magnet for bikers. I usually see at least one zip past me on nice days. Normally it is a group of them that are around. Maybe I should take it as a sign to learn to ride… ;)

Daniel Johnson> I must be missing something, but I'll hazard a guess. Is it CHECK? If I flip each letter vertically it still looks the same. Somehow I feel this can't be right, but I might as well toss it out.

Spacebabie> <purpose of gargoyle tails>

Gasper> <Does this happen often? And do people still read the previous day's post?> The room wipe happens once a week usually on Sunday. (You probably already got as much from Robby.) I can't speak for everyone but I usually read the all the posts since my last post. You can see last weeks CR by clicking on the Last week's Comment Room hyperlink at the top of the room. <dragoon> So are you easy to mind control like Kain? I loved him as a character but he was constantly being mentally controlled. Weak willed dragoon. ;)

SOROW> That's great! I'm glad you are all better. *Winterwolf does his happy dance.*

******X-FILES SPOILER******

Sevarius Jr.> <dad> Good to hear progress is being made. I'll keep praying for a full recovery. <X-Files> I agree with you there. Scully seemed to have way too much fun with the invisible corpse. She was grinning most of the time and invited several researchers to show the invisible body! I wonder what she would have done if she could turn invisible. She seemed in love with the idea. All in all it was a good episode.

******END X-FILES SPOILER******

Lady Mystic> *Winterwolf bows deeply.* My lady. The CR looks great! I have one suggestion. (I think I saw this somewhere but I can't seem to find it at the moment.) Maybe a link could be added to go the comment room information page. http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/. That's all I can think of at the moment. I think you have done a great job!

Fire Storm> I was wondering about the Thersites image status. Did you need me to send that to you again? I don't mean to bug you. I'm just curious with what is happening to it now. BTW - I'm in a graphic mood. If I make some cool gargoyle pics should I send them to you for the CR?

I'll add to the RP tonight. Be back later.

*Winterwolf gets on his motorcycle and speeds out of the room on his way to DPH's place.*

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:51:57 AM
IP: 206.15.122.13

**NBC RANT**
Pretender cancelled? Noooo, not after that season finale. Although, I wish they would have more relevations about the Centre during the season instead of a whole bunch during the season finale. The other big complaint is there are too many stand-alone episodes. On the other hand, all relevations had been building up to this episode. But, what is left to be revealed? Angelo's parents, perhaps and a tie-in to another Centre project that DOES not have to involve Catherine Parker.

Profiler: it's almost impossible not to have a few stand-alone episodes unless you work on character development. Who needs a main villain when you can have lots of things going on with the characters?

Replace drama with VIOLENCE in today's society?
**END NBC RANT**

(And I was wondering what I could post about today.)

**WWF FOOTBALL QUESTIONS**
What 'rules' are going to be removed? They have to keep the rules involving 'player safety'. Besides, not all of America craves more football.
**END WWF FOOTBALL QUESTIONS**

My list of industries that show bad on people's lives:
1)restaurant - people have less and less time to cook food at home
2)tax preparation - the income tax code is TOO complex
3)entertainment - people spend less and less time talking to family

**BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA continues without resistence**
"I was hoping you'd teleport me there," replied Plastique Saber.

"With communications technology down, my power is weak. I don't have the energy to do so," replied SuperSpeed.

"Ouch. Hmm. I could take my car. But it'll be a couple of hours before I get there," said Plastiqe Saber.

"Just beware of NCA. He is very strong," said SuperSpeed, weakily.

"Ok. I'll be on my way," replied Plastique Saber.

Plastique Saber got in her car and starting driving towards DPH's home. She stopped in the town DPH lived in to eat. She ate a small lunch and went back on her way to DPH's house. She arrived. She knocked on the door and Jason Filler opened the door.

"Is DPH here?" asked Plastique Saber.

"Why?" replied Jason Filler.

"I was sent here by a friend of his - SuperSpeed - to help him fight against NCA." replied Plastique Saber.

"Come in. Maybe you can help me with a task DPH wanted me to do," replied Jason Filler.

"What task?" replied Plastique Saber.

"DPH wanted me to use this ring on my middle finger to stop this light bulb from glowing. He said he takes concentration, but I haven't been able to do it so far," said Jason Filler.

"Hmm. Maybe I can help you. Let me try." Plastique Saber puts the ring on her middle finger and successfully dims the light and then puts the finger back on Jason Filler's middle finger. "Considering I don't know magic within my veins and I have not learned magic, I believe it can be done. It just takes mental discipline."
**END BATTLE FOR TECHNOLOGY SAGA for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, May 15, 2000 11:05:10 AM
IP: max1-54.cwy.cei.net

Mara> <<someone has cracked the code to me>>: Sorry, I think I missed something. (I can't seem to see where the code came from)<<Don't forget... perverted...>>: Isn't that almost the direct translation (counting form change from noun to adj)?
<<musnt forget nuts>>: Naturally, but what kind?
<<who once drag raced in a Wal Mart... in men's clothing>>: With modern styles being what they are, that's pretty much nothing. Maybe if both sides sgreed to victorian style garb...

::blink:: Ok.. it's offical.. I'm not funny anymore... Gside I was joking around with you, no need to be so... literal, on all three counts.

::sighs and goes to looks for her Disclaimer shirt::

Do I need to explain myself to death? ::stressed look::

Mara: Um, a small piece of advice... Benjamin doesn't like being called Benji. *Rubs arm selfconciously.*

Hee... oops. Did he bite ya? ::looks at his arm::

Sorry, Benjamin ::huggles chibi::

Mara Cordova
Monday, May 15, 2000 10:48:23 AM
IP: spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com

SEVARIUS JR. - I also saw that "X-Files" episode, and thought that it was a lot of fun, too. Incidentally, when the genie explained about how she'd originally been a human in medieval France but wound up a genie through the afrit, I found myself suddenly thinking a bit of Anya.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 15, 2000 07:17:41 AM
IP: 216.87.46.15.dialup-stl.primary.net

*** TGS CR INFO UPDATE ***

Well, I uploaded the new version of the TGS CR Info Area. Every page has a new look. :)

The CR Archive has now been updated. Out of the five weeks added only two were known to be complete. So check them out and if you have files that are more complete than the ones in the archive please email FS & I at mystic-storm@usa.net. Anything will help. I could always splice multiple files together to get the most complete file possible.

That's what I did for the week of 4/30 - 5/5. Daniel Johnson's file had some coding errors and a missing image. So I took my error-free file and added the extra data from his file. Worked out great! But don't do this step for me. It's much easier in the long run if I just handle that stuff.

And before you point it out… Yes I know that some of the side links in the CR Info Area don't work. I'll correct them ASAP. I'd do it now, but my FTP program is already initiating another task (downloading the TGS Website for potentially new CR pics and such). So I'll correct any broken links after the FTPing is finished. :)

Oh, and links directing to http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive.html should work and bring you to a simple page directing you to the new URL.

Feedback on the new version is greatly encouraged! I want to know what I'm doing right/wrong and what you like/dislike about this new version compared to the last one. Is there anything you'd like to see or want removed? I'd list all the changes but I want to see what all of you notice first.

Next task: CR Images!

That's all for now. :)

*** / TGS CR INFO UPDATE ***

Thanks to all compliments on our work. :)

Daniel Johnson =

<<Take care of Real Life first.>> Thanks. **sighs** I wish it were that easy. But the stuff that's bogging me down isn't the kind of stuff I can work on a few times and be done with permanently. I wish it were as easy as doing a school assignment. At least with that you can actually finish it and go to whatever else you need or want to do. My problems are the result of four years of doing things for others. Over the duration of those four years all my goals and interests were gradually put aside. A little under a year ago I realized a few things of which will require too much explanation to mention here. So far I've been fighting an uphill battle trying to get my life back. It's become too hard trying to juggle my felt obligations to my family and my own personal goals and interests. Constant interruptions or days where I don't get to do my own stuff at all have left me very stressed. "Down time" is almost always interrupted or impossible. I also have deadlines on schoolwork that have to be met and the ever-present knowledge that certain interests have to be taken up again for college preparation. Having an actual job to save money for college (and to actually have my own spending money!) seems very much out of the question for numerous reasons. **sigh** I'm trying my best not to let this stuff wear me down emotionally and physically, but sometimes I feel overwhelmed and discouraged with my failed attempts to better the situation. It's something that will take a lot of work and years to correct. Sad I know, but true. :(

<<If you still are missing some CRs, I have everything from the end of March on.>> Thanks! I'll have to check my backup CDs, but basically everything FS and I are missing can be viewed in the CR Archive. We don't have any of the unlinked dates. And all asterisked files display our lack of complete files of those dates. Hope that answers your question. If not I could always sift through everything and list the actual days and timeframes of which FS and I lack in our archives (a VERY large task I warn you). Oh, do you have s8 archives that far back as well? And what about Gore's Weekly Updates?


... I think I'll stick with this text color. I loved the Bright Red, however this color doesn't seem to overpower Asrial's pumpkin coloration and coordinates with the colors in the image better.

Lady Mystic - [<-- TGS CR INFO UPDATE]
Dearborn, MI
Monday, May 15, 2000 05:06:13 AM
IP: t3-79.visitus.net

Merriam-Websters Collegiate Dictionary. (1622)- A member of a European military unit formally composed of heavily armored soldiers mounted troops.

Final Fantasy (1990-2000)- A dragoon, primarily of the Highwind Family, starting with Kain Highwind of FF4/2 (Jap./US.) who was a heavily armored Dragon soldier. His main weapon was a Spear, and was an Elite soldier specializing in aerial attacks. A later Reincarnation of the Dragoon was in FF6, with Edgar Roni Figaro, who used a Lance also. Though everyone in FF6 could use the Dragoon Boots, or the Dragon Horn, The use of Jumping and Spear was reserved for Dragoons. The laste reincarnation of a Dragoon is seen with Cid Highwind, who also jumps and flies, using a spear, and this is who Gasper S. Keltner is modeled after. Another model of a Dragoon is the Lancer in FF Tactics.
More info at this site.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~princessartemis/dragon.html
http://www.crosswinds.net/~princessartemis/documents/dragoon.html

Gasper- A independent Dragoon Warrior/Pilot who though looks unarmed, uses a spear, jumps high, and projects Ki blasts.

Make sense? Let me know if you want the stat sheet I wrote up. Anyway, in a RP enviroment, I can jump, and with a Ki projection, can fly for a limited amount of time. Along with the Whole Dragoon bit, I'm also a Time/Dimensional Travler, and mastered that It's helpful.
*produces a spear from one of his Dimensional Pockets.* Meet my baby, the Ultima SPear. Has the power of Ultima Magic in it, and works as many different weapons, but that's a surprise.
But enough about me.

Warp---I have on PC, MUCH better then the console, though I use a PlayStation type controller (Gravis Game Pro Pad.) which works well.

SJ-Any Victory you get your hands on is a good victory. Make sense? I hope they are able to get all the gunk outta him. Good luck, and my Prayers go with you and your family.

Gundam--This is a twenty year old series that has many different AU's (Alternate universes) WIng is just one of them. There is a new little Mini Series type thing about every other year, and usually, a lot of them rate high.

Robby- Oh, I heard they were done...maybe not...here's hopin'. ALso, okay, I get why you do it. Just wondering.

GSide and Rodlox- I didn't know that Dragoon was a projectile anything, dictionary doesn't say anything about it either.

*Puts the spear away.* Hope that helps ya. Gotta go, later.


Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:37:57 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

*Warpmind pops in, cheerfully sporting a Death t-shirt, with the text "You get what everyone gets - you get a lifetime!".*
Howdy-do.

Mara: Um, a small piece of advice... Benjamin doesn't like being called Benji. *Rubs arm selfconciously.*

Gasper: It's Mr. Expendable to you, buddy. ;) Oh, and I've tried Rogue Squadron (on N64). Can't say I liked it much... I still prefer TIE Fighter... probably because the N64 has a <CENSORED> control pad thingie. Gimme a mousy/joystick and keyboard combo any ol' day of the week!

Sorow: Uh, you didn't get the joke? Sorry; South Park reference... ;)

SJ: May fate be generous with you and yours, buddy. Good that they got the cyst out.

Gee, not much to comment today... well, see ya.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, May 15, 2000 03:03:13 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Roldox> <<isn't a dragoon a kind of projectile weapon in hte Gun family>>: Not in this context. Here, it's a class in the Final Fantasy Series, which used a spear/lance/halbred/etc. and was known for their jumping skill (special ability: jump: jump out of the fight for one turn, then return to do double damage). The most famous examples are Kain (IV (II)) and Cid (VII (very important to label the Cids)). From what I've played, monks are my favorite class (based on pure fighting ability).

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 15, 2000 02:17:56 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com


Gside: um...isn't a dragoon a kind of projectile weapon in hte Gun family??

Rodlox
Monday, May 15, 2000 02:05:37 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Winterwolf> <<I don't know why I feel the uncontrollable urge to address the Monty Python stuff to you every time>>: (I got it right this time) Probably because of the half-taunting (it wouldn't have been full taunting unless I brought in the French) I gave Warpmind a while back.
<<Could it be something in the New Jersey water>>: Well, it is, but I don't think that is the major cause this time. There is always something in Jersey water (what is it, three of the five most polluted rivers in the US are here?).

Shadowrider> <<because she was frightened, she kept on puckering my hands>>: Do you mean pecking (at), or something else?

Daniel Johnson> <<Vertically flipped is fine>>: I'd assume that it'd have to be rotated. If it was flippped with an M/W combination, the positions would be reversed.

Mara> <<someone has cracked the code to me>>: Sorry, I think I missed something. (I can't seem to see where the code came from)
<<Don't forget... perverted...>>: Isn't that almost the direct translation (counting form change from noun to adj)?
<<musnt forget nuts>>: Naturally, but what kind?
<<who once drag raced in a Wal Mart... in men's clothing>>: With modern styles being what they are, that's pretty much nothing. Maybe if both sides sgreed to victorian style garb...

Oops, best wishes to the multi-talented CSH. (hmm, with the high concentration of May anniversaries (my parents just had theirs 10 days ago (assuming I do take enough time on this post to get it out tomorrow)), you'd think there would have been a higher incidence in February birthdays (or maybe it's a generational thing))

DPH> <<n^y + n is always even as long as n>=0 and n and y are integers. Hmm. *Pauses to think* That makes sense>>: Even more general, 2 divides (n^x+n^y), using the integers as the universe of discourse (sorry, the class is coming back to haunt me in my vocabulary). This even works as long as there are an even number of terms.

Spacebabie> <<Does this makes me a freak,nerd,or a geek?>>: I personally favor nerd or geek, bot go with whatever works best for you.

Gasper> <<He wears a waited blue Coat, Green Shirt, Blue Parachute Pants, and Steel Toed Boots.* Hey, the Dragoon hath returned>>: It's not a dragoon without the full armor and spear type weapon, or you can prove to me that you can jump high enough that you won't land until four different people have cast complex magical spells in series (not simultaneously).
<<Does this happen often?>>: Weekly.
<<And do people still read the previous day's post?>>: Well, I do.

Mandolin> <<Paper's 19 pages and FINISHED!>>: Much joy.

DPH> To get a valid link in the CR, you must put on the http:// otherwise it will just link to a subdirectory of http://www.s8.org/tgs/

SOROW> <<Wilek> I love Adam Sandler and The Matrix!...You and I would have gotten along great>>: I was the only person who said "Sandler" last week.

Sev. Jr.> Many more well wishes for your father.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 15, 2000 12:10:38 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Gasper- I wipe the room every Sunday to prevent it from becoming overly huge.

And of course Cartoon Network didn't show Endless Waltz, it isn't translated yet. But they're working on it and will air all three episodes as a complete movie somewhere down the road.

SJ- Actually, if you start watching Gundam WIng from the start, it makes perfect sense since they explain everything as they go, you don't need to know the back history from the previous series. And since Wing just started anew Friday, you can jump in on the second episode Monday and can appreciate it, since they basically recap everything in the opening anyway. After seeing Gundam WIng in its entirety, it is now officially one of my top five favorite series EVER. Its right up there with Gargs, ReBoot and Slayers.

Robby
Monday, May 15, 2000 12:08:47 AM
IP: spider-we054.proxy.aol.com

Update on my dad: Last night at about 11:30 p.m., they operated to remove the cyst in my father's back. The operation was thankfully a complete success, but now there's pumping him full of antibiotics so that any infection is killed. The best thing about it is that he is in quite a bit less pain than he was before. However, things are still not exactly "peechy keen". He still has a separate tumor in his back and there is still some concern about the area of his spine near the tumor. But with the cyst removed, the doctors will now be able to obtain a clearer picture of just what's going on. I believe that an orthoscopic specialist will be seeing him tomorrow about his spine. He is still very, very far from being out of the woods, but I'll take every victory I can, however small. Once again, I thank you all for your prayers and sympathies, I really do appreciate them. Just please keep him in your thoughts. Hopefully, before long everything will be taken care of.

Battlefield Earth: The good news is that this stinker was only number two at the box office with a paltry 12 million (I think that was the approximate number). The bad news is that the director is saying that the film was cheap to make, so they want to do a sequel. I hope they read every negative review out there (and there is a ton of them) and decide against it. Seeing publicity stills of a heavily made-up John Travolta with big snot-like breathing apparatus attached to his nose makes me want to run out and see one movie--GLADIATOR.

Gundam Wing: I still have never watched a complete episode of this show, and I don't know that I will. It's all so terribly complicated to me. Then I found out that this is like, the 369th spinoff or sequel series to the original Gundam series, and my confusion made a little more sense. Until I can get on the Gundam elevator at the ground level, I may have to set Wing aside until I find some old Gundam tapes at the video store. I went through this mass confusion with Dragonball Z once before...

NBC--XFL: I HOPE that they cancel the "Saturday Night Thrillogy". I think they have. Pretender IS canceled, they announced that a couple days ago. All of those shows are horrible if you ask me. Pretender and Profiler totally ran out of steam after the first couple seasons, and the Others is just your basic X-Files/Brimstone type clone. The first couple of episodes had promise, then they started going into the basic tired "we have to fight demons this week" routine. Give me Vince McMahon-produced football!

BTW, did anyone catch X-Files tonight? I usually don't like the humorous episodes, but I dug tonight's show. Maybe I just needed something on the lighter side. Pretty funny episode if you ask me. BTW....did anyone else think that Scully was having just a little *too* much fun with that invisible corpse? Put the powder down, red!

Doug: Thank your for the RP update, it was very helpful. And I really thank your and Kit for your kind words and support. I'm grateful to have two good friends such as you both. :)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:49:47 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

My pinkeye only lasted about 12 hours...so thank you for all the well wishes. You guys wished me back to health! *hugs*

Warp> Que? :P

Doug> The thing about Gladiator is that it's so serious. I mean it's no surprise considering that Ridley Scott (Alien) directed it. But don't get me wrong, it's still a great movie. I hope you come back to us soon, we'll miss you.

Wilek> I love Adam Sandler and The Matrix!!!! It's such a shame that we couldn't have met sooner and in person. You and I would have gotten along great. *sniff*

SOROW
Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:39:13 PM
IP: dll2a020-0483.splitrock.net

(Don't know if anyone read it, so, if you have...sorry to post again.)
*Through a blue/green portal, a large man enters the room, He wears a waited blue Coat, Green
Shirt, Blue Parachute Pants, and Steel Toed Boots.*

Hey, the Dragoon hath returned for a bit. Finals week is upon me, and I'm not looking forward to
it.

Gundam Wing---THEY DIDN"T SHOW ENDLESS WALTZ!!!! GRRR. Well, yeah, that part
when Wing Zero blew up the chunk of Libra was great. And the whole episode was awesome.
Especially loved the fact that Quetra's (Spelling) friends, the Maguanac (mog-wa-knock) corps
came to help. And as always, DeathScythe Hell, Altron/Nataku and Wing Zero were there.
Having "Just Communications" was an awesome idea...I loved it when Heero took off in Neo
Bird Mode with Zero. Just looked awesome both audibly and visually. Now I just wish they'd
start some more new DBZ on monday, which if that happens, Hell will probably Freeze over.
Heh heh.

The next Gundam series I'd love to see would have to be "After War Gundam X". It just looks awesome.

Entity---- you ever post fics under that name on Icy Brian's? If you did, it's good to see you still around.
Also, I shan't apologize anymore. Thanks you guys and gals.
Again, Entity, for All four Gundam Wing albums, Op.s one through four, go to http://www.gamingforce.com/Audio/ and click
on GamingForce Anime, has all four albums. Over all, that place has about 130 game and Anime albums. The most I've ever
seen on the net. Kami willing they won't shut down.

Warpmind- I've heard SD's are bad news...and in a TIE, which you become Mr/Ms/Mrs. Expendable.....well I feel for ya. I've
been doing a Lot of Rogue Squadron...and that's flying an interceptor against Laser turrest and Missle Launchers. That makes
no sense...sorry. But I know what you mean.

Well, back to work as the Dragoon....heh. *Concentrates and sends out a small ball of energy, expanding it into a large portal
for Travel. Turning, he waves.* See ya. *Walks in, and disappears.*

Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:23:51 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Um, 14th :)
Entity
Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:15:51 PM
IP: nic-163-c228-241.mw.mediaone.net


<Walks in, holding a pile of t-shirts>.

"TOP TOPS!!" *eg*

hahaha!!


Rodlox
Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:12:04 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*runs in holding hands with Denis* Yeah! top something :)
Jan and Denis
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:42:17 PM
IP: 64-240-37-166.hou.port.mytelco.com

Top Ten ... hopefully ...
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:41:19 PM
IP: 216.28.101.140

top 10!!

my RP archive is completed up to my previous post.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:40:41 PM
IP: max1-25.cwy.cei.net

Top Ten?
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:39:45 PM
IP: ip54.orlando11.fl.pub-ip.psi.net

Dang Wilek just posted fifth. I'm sixth then ]:)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:33:41 PM
IP: proxy3.vista1.sdca.home.com

You were fourth Madolin. I'm fifth
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:33:03 PM
IP: proxy3.vista1.sdca.home.com

Top 10! :D
Wilek
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:32:35 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Fifth! Paper's 19 pages and FINISHED!!
Mandolin
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:30:09 PM
IP: 144.175.20.114

Third? Does this happen often? And do people still read the previous day's post?

Gasper
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:29:05 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Second or third but definitely top ten!!!
Mara Cordova
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:28:30 PM
IP: spider-te014.proxy.aol.com

Second!!!!!!
Green Baron
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:28:11 PM
IP: proxy1-external.elmwd1.la.home.com

First!!
Oracle
Sunday, May 14, 2000 09:26:13 PM
IP: dyn2-tnt2-81.milwaukee.wi.ameritech.net