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*wanders in in her "doggies in love on the lil flying carpet" PJ's and pink fuzzy slipers*

Hey hey All! :)

This will be a short post (...as most of my post are actualy :P ) Cuz I gotta get up early tomorrow, first day at the job!....OK, so Its volenter work and I'll still keep being a broke @$$ monkey, but I think it'll be worth it :)

Matthew> <<Anime on Telemundo>> You know what's realy interesting tho, they actualy show Ranma 1/2 on the same chanel saturday mornings and tho its not as bloody as DBZ, the sexual content might be some what confuzing for little kids in my opinion. Ofcorse I get up and watch them anyways, being the devoted fan I am ;) But I must say, Ranma 1/2 has some of the best english dubbing in anime, but the spanish dubbing sux, and it tends to screw with the character play and the content too...

Winerwolf> *HUGZ back* Thanx :) But unfortunatly it wasnt woking when I was in desperate need of entertainment :P

Sevarious> I did catch The Invisible Man and I rather enjoyed it! I hope it didnt waste its plot and punch lines on the pilot movie and that the series is as fun to watch :)

*yawns* Gotta go all! *HUGZ all and wanders back out*
Caliope
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:51:13 PM
IP: 196-28-48-101.prtc.net

<Demona vs. Sata in hand to hand combat.>
Throwin a little mud, oil, or jello, I think we have a winning idea here :)

Sorry, couldn't resist...

I've got to go with Sata. Her cool, level-headed nature would get the best of Demona's rampaging temper-tantrums in a close arms fight. Since Demona's marksmanship skills seem to come straight from the same school as the Imperial Stormtroopers, I wouldn't put much money there either.How many times has she had the firepower advantage over the Clan only to constantly miss like a myopic mole?
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:32:27 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-41.ultravision.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR.**

<<Demona vs. Sata Opinion>>

Shadowrider> <Demona vs. Sata in hand to hand combat.> Now that would be a fight! Now there are several scenarios that I can think about that would give the edge to either of them. Also I feel that the reason they would be fighting in the first place would be very important. Barring all of that and speaking only of fighting ability I believe that Sata would have an advantage. Sata is more likely to keep a very cool head very likely angering Demona and causing her to make mistakes. Sata is very patient while Demona is not. All it will take is one opening such as Demona overextending or loosing her balance after a missed strike for example. After being bested in a few exchanges I see Demona being very likely to enter a blind rage and having minimal defense. Then Sata will beat Demona. Now that was only fighting ability. Maybe now you are thinking but Demona has all this time and experience to develop her fighting skills. Sure but when Elisa was a gargoyle that one episode she gave Demona a good fight. That alone shows her fighting ability isn't all that. Now if she could use other resources at her disposal then I think she would have a good chance at victory. Still is Sata was able to bring Demona to a blind rage, where she didn't carefully consider what she was doing, then Sata still has a chance of victory. Considering all of Demona's resources (magic and technology) however, Demona should be able to defeat Sata. There are a few other points what time is the battle taking place? Sata goes into stone sleep, Demona does not. Where is the battle taking place? Potential home court advantage or neutral ground. Why are they fighting? Demona did something to Sata's family or Sata is just in her way. To sum up it would be a glorious battle! I like both of them but in the end I think Sata would win just barely. Maybe I just like Sata more.

Joxter> You don't really compare Demona against a female gargoyle. I know you mention Delilah, but she doesn't have the experience of Sata or Elisa.

<<Demona vs. Sata Opinion>>

Janine> <pics> I can send you a few. Do you have any preferences? Gargoyles pictures? Other? Let me know what you'd like most. I'll try to keep you up to date on the CR. **hugs** Have fun in California! ^_^

Jannie> Mmm chicken. :) How's the new SUV been treating you?

Jenna> <boo boo> Ouchie! Get well soon! I hope you get plenty of TLC.

Niamhgold> Check your email! I sent you a big one! ^_^ <fighting with computer> I hope you taught it who's the boss and that server too! <Demona to come over with a taser> Now that sounds a little extreme! ;) <Virus Warning> Oh no! Help! We're all in trouble now! ;) Good one, I thought it was funny.

Rodlox> I've been wondering how Cassandra has been doing too. Cassandra I hope you're okay!

Spike> I agree with your assesment about Demona and Sata. It looks like we are in the minority though. ^_^

Sorrow> Did you get my last email? I'll send you more later. It's good to see you in good spirits again. :)

Jonny Cat> Hi! Welcome to the CR.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf finished in the backyard and went into the house.

**Meanwhile in a secure room filled with electronics.**

DC and Netlag still couldn't come up with a way to get NCA to agree to give them a portion of his power. They were interrupted by a voice. "I can help you if you help me." A tall red equine grinned at them.

DC and Netlag immediately blasted the stranger. Both were irritated when they heard a laugh behind them. "I can do this without you, but it is so hard to find good help these days."

The newcomer invokes a phrase of power, "Your powers are powerless in my presence."

DC and Netlag are shocked as they can do nothing! DC decides to be more cooperative.
"What do we need to do?" Save NCA with great difficulty. The three of them discuss the attack.

"This will happen after the Speed Stars attack. Retribution for the insult of this attack will be our little play." The red newcomer smiled. "I'll return to you when the time is right."

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Good night everybody! See you tomorrow!
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:43:14 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.82.28.newyork2.level3.net

Sata v. Demona> I'd base my point spread on time. Within the first five minutes, Sata has the best chance but after that Demona becomes the more likely victor. It did occur to me, we may be overestimating Demona's fighting ability just a bit. Consider that she's fought, sometimes unsuccessfully, a lone Hunter. This is just an ordinary human with a weapons ranging from a simple sword and shield to hovercraft and missiles. She's lost to Elisa on several occasions and in various forms, even in the human Elisa/gargoyle Demona set up like in Avalon 3, Elisa wasn't a roll over. Demona's strength as a fighter is largely based on the amush, getting the jump on your opponents. In a straight duel that may give Sata the advantage. That's not to say Sata is a clear victor. In a no-holds barred type of duel, Sata's honor is more a liability than an asset. Bushido like many warrior codes have things you can and can't do. If Demona knows this, she could use that knowledge to her advantage. Either way it would be an interesting contest.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:27:51 PM
IP: 67.santabarbara-01rs15rt-02rs13rt.ca.dial-access.att.net

I think that a fight between Demona and Sata would be extremely interesting to see. and it would definately be very long and tedious battle. But i personally feel that Demona is one of the best warriors of all time. She has out smarted, out muscled and out fought the hunters for over a thousand years. She has defeated Macbeth numerous times. She has also fought goliath many times, and never was she defeated by goliath himself. Sata, even though she has had years of buhsido training, and has the ultimate control over herself, does not have the speed, agility and natural fighting skills that Demona so dominantly portrays. So to sum it up, Demona would win, not because of her immortality, but because of her abilities and flare.
Jonny Cat - [jonny_cat@hotmail.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:23:51 PM
IP: proxy5.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com

Hello to all. I have been away camping and I am now happy to report that I am no longer depressed and feeling sorry for myself. How did I get over it? By seeing how many wonderful friends I have by just looking around me! I have written tons of people in here and there are just too many new address' in my e-mail file :) But please, write more! It's fun! I'm glad to be back! *group hug*
SOROW
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:12:16 PM
IP: dll2a010-0156.splitrock.net

Greetings all...

CHRISTINE - Reason being why you've not seen a request for authorization is because I've forgotten your *ahem* ICQ number... you should still have mine. Send me a message, and I can add you to my contact list, and then resend the re-auth.

SATA v. Demona - Years of experience and a long life doesn't nessesarily mean Demona's the winner hands-down! It's been shown in dozens of novels - both fantasy and sci-fi, but mostly fantasy - where a long-lived nemesis or villian has arrived on the scene, old to be defeated or killed outright by a young or short-lived mortal who had the skills and means to put the villian down. I won't say that Sata won't escape such a fight unscathed, but my money is on the Ishimuran if she had to give Demona a one-on-one! :)

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, June 11, 2000 09:57:20 PM
IP: m27.ieway.com

Shadowrider:
Before I forget, Happy Birthday!
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DPH:
Well, I haven't worked out a Wacky Gargoyle Evolution Theory(tm) yet. Not sure if I want to. I'll have to wait until I'm in a Wacky(tm) mood again. As for how humans "stumbled" on to Avalon, I assume it was the same way we stumble on to anything. You see, I'm guessing that it was the fay who isolated Avalon from the rest of the world by using their new powers. They didn't want anyone else coming there and possibly developing similar powers. Now, who knows what might happen to the Avalon clan and anyone else who is on the island for an extended period of time?
----
Enough for now, hopefully I'll post more after the wipe.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, June 11, 2000 09:41:10 PM
IP: ppp-38.rb6.exit109.com

re: Sata vs. Demona>> Sata, hands down. Sure, Demona's immortal.... she's been kicking around a thousand years, but she's flawed. When things get hot, her emotions get the better of her. Sata, on the other hand, is trained in the Ishimura tradition of bushido -- cool, calm, icy in the heat of battle. Demona might SURVIVE the fight, but she would know defeat.
Spike
Sunday, June 11, 2000 08:52:02 PM
IP: ppp14-30.ght.iadfw.net

On more mundane matters, what's the problem with gargoyles-fans.org, I can't access the fanfic archive.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 07:32:36 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp3.fltg.net

I just had to leave my two cents in on this Sata vs. Demona duel. Demona wins hands down if for no other reason then her immortality. Hell, she could win by doing nothing, and watching her enemies grow old, and die. So unless Sata has something on the order of a nuke to blast Demona with, she looses.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 07:30:16 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp3.fltg.net

Why did the chicken cross the road? So he wouldn't have to see that new movie "Chicken Run" that's coming out since graphic scenes of chickens being put into a pie-making machine could give it nightmares. :)

That bit about the guy on The Twilight Zone having difficulty assasinating Hitler reminds me of that Gargoyles TV episode where Goliath went back in time to find out how Leo and Una know him from 50 years before. Goliath is trying to get Griff back to the shop, but things keep happening. Some trigger happy rookies fire an anti-aircraft gun at them, the building they're resting on blows up, they nearly get run over by a truck, and they barely gate out in time to avoid getting killed by a fighterplane crashing on the bit of street they're standing on.

Hmm. I've only seen 1 or 2 episodes of The Twilight Zone, but I wonder if there were ever any episodes that could be remotely connected to Gargoyles?

**RP- The Ten Saga**
The armor was ready. The outfitting and programming of the Guardio-bots was complete. All that was left, was to take flight for the meeting with Gasper and then the battle with #4. Matthew pressed his belt-buckle and when the light cleared, there stood Dragon Warrior, his green armor now with some gold trim added.

[I sure hope the modifications will be enough.] he mused as the roof hatch opened [Time to get going. Guardio-bots: Launch!] Dragon warrior's boot jets ignited and he flew through the open hatch as the wing of Guardio-bots launched at the same time. [Guardio-bots: With me!] Dragon Warrior commanded as he started towards the rendezvous point and the Guardio-bots fell into formation behind him.

When they reached the rendezvous point, Dragon Warrior descended to the ground after ordering the Guardio-bots to hide themselves so that #4 would be less likely to annihilate them all before the battle began.

Dragon Warrior ran one final diagnostic on the new fusion core and Neuro-Booster. Everything looked good, but he wouldn't know for sure until the real fight started. He stood waiting for Gasper to arrive.
** End RP- The Ten Saga**
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Sunday, June 11, 2000 07:24:48 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-112-65.bellatlantic.net

Emambu:> Thank you for the wish.

Jannie:> Very funny chicken jokes...I liked particularily Jerry Falwell's one...

Niamhgold:> Thank you a lot for the wish. No problem it is belated, I know you had problems in coming here. Thank you most of all for the beautiful E-card, I liked it a lot...:)
Interesting info about Flag Day origin too.
Oh, and thank you for the virus warning, I'll watch for it...;)

Sata/Demona duel:> Interesting commens to now. Personally I think I agree with Emambu, although the others too had good points. For sure, it should be a good match.

Good night everyone.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, June 11, 2000 06:28:47 PM
IP: h213-20-143.mi2.albacom.net

Sata vs. Demona---I hate to say it, but there is no question on who would win in unarmed combat. Demona has had over a thousand years to train in various areas of combat. It would really be a slaughter. Sata was trained in a sword, and if she was trained in other combat, then maybe she has a chance. Overall though, and now that I think about the immortality being left out, does that include that she has just had a longer then average life span of 1000+ years? It's hard to tell without certain factors I guess.

Good and Evil---It's relative to what you believe. Everyone, except the truly evil believe they are doing what they think is good. Dr. Evil...just wanted to destroy the world. I doubt he saw any good in that....but it's too stereotypical. Elliot Carver on the other hadn (007: Tomorrow Never Dies) just wanted to own everything, but knew he was the villian. Acknowledgement of the alignment is a big thing here. I don't know if we really have any of those kind of people in this world, but then again, there is probably a lot of stuff that goes on that we don't know about.

And now, some RP.
**********BEGING RP---The Ten Saga...**********
*****Day 548 in the Room of Time and Spirit--2 hours before the Sunday meeting****

The mountainous terrain had proven a difficult battle field, and the various practice clones Gasper had been using were powerful, but dummer then the rocks that made up the mountains. Coming over one of the ridges, Gasper sighted the last one. It was probably the smartest one, as it had eluded most of his attacks. Pulling his arms high into the air, he powered up one last blast, then let lose on the clone below him by throwing his hands down and exspending the energy that was collected. The clone turned but it was too late as it pierced through it's armor, through it's ultra thick hide, and through the other side. It looked up at him with eyes of admiration, as if it was conceeding defeat to a worthy opponent. Promptly, Gasper let the beam of energy subside as the clone vanished. Gathering the last bits of Ki he had in him, he flew back to the small area that was habitable in the room. Opening the fridge, he grabbed out the last sandwich he'd made before his departure, and sat down to enjoy it, when he heard a voice behind him.

"You've done well, that was an upgraded training clone you were working with. Considering it's armor and hide, you easily stand a small chance against 4 now."

Gasper smiled to his sensei, and nodded. "Well, you know how to make them Master Kami. How long you been watching?"

"Long enough to know it's time I gave you this." With a raise of his hand, the weighted coat that Gasper wore floated to where they were sitting. Kami turned it to the side in midair, and Gasper was awestruck on what was on the shoulder. It was the symbol of Kami, a spehere with a word in Kanji representing that this was one of Kami's Warriors. Gasper put the sandwich to the side, and stood up, grabbing the coat. Putting it one, he looked to Kami with admiration.

"I...you mean I am able to wear your symbol from now on?!? I can't believe it!"

"Believe it my son, you have more then earned it. You and those others are the last hope of the Earth. Make sure you visit Karin as well. I'm sure some Senzu beans would be of great help to you in your battle." Gasper grabbed the sandwich and gobbled it down after Kami left. Looking back on his training period, he considered himself lucky to be able to use this room so freely. His slower aging meant he could spend more time in the room then normal humans, but he was hardly normal after his earlier adventures. Finishing the sandwich, he collected his items, exited the room, and closed the door. Returning the items to his ship, he entered the 'fresher station and showered up quickly, then donned the new armor that he'd ordered. Mr. Popo had done a good job getting it, and he was both surprised and happy to see that Kami's Symbol was on the left breast of his Breastplate. Stretching it just right, he quickly climbed into it, and felt it fit like a glove. No shoulder or leg extensions to encomber him. With a last words to the occupants of Kami's Lookout, he lifted off to the sky, and descended about a mile before reacing Karin's place. Saying a few words to the cat, he grabbed a pouch of senzu beans and made his way to the rendevouz point with Dragon Warrior, and the place where one of the largest battles of Earth's History thus far would take place...

*******END RP********

Gasper - [Gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Sunday, June 11, 2000 06:22:36 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

DPH enters the room and quickly surrounds himself with a forcefield. He then starts to sing:
**PARODY of a song**
This is a post of laughter
a post of tears
a post of hopes
a post of fears

There's so much that I share
That it's time we're aware
This is a long post afterall

This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long, long post

There is just one room
with rules divine
and posting means
sharing with everyone
Though the posters are many
and some readers aren't happy
This is a long post afterall

This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long, long post
**END PARODY**

Welcome all newcomers to the CR.

**SPOILERS FOR Invisible Man**
Let's see. Before I saw the premiere I know that the Invisible Man would have to have some weakness/limatition of power. It is interesting to choose being dependant on a drug to keep one's sanity as the weakness. Of course, that is in the same mood as the character who can become invisible. He is a con artist who got conned big time. So I imagine that he would want to learn the formula of the drug that keeps him sane. I would not suprise me to learn that the earliest villain lived longer than the premiere of the series.

His partner has some issues. Either he is severely underpaid or he has some wrong motivations for his job. Judging by his response to the new guy (Invisible man) getting a promotion sooner, I would say he more than likely has wrong motivations. That opens the door for some possibilities (he gets offered a bribe to look the other way).

Canadian terrorists? What the heck? I can not figure out their motivations.
**END SPOILERS for Invisible Man**

**XANATATOS DEBATE**
Ulterior motives for his every action. Talk about paranoia. But on the other hand, one does not reform overnight. I would wonder if Xanatos rain into some problems and he needed some help with muscle, if he would a)stealthy bring out the steel clan and put on his armor and take care of it personally or b)try to get Goliath & company to take care of the problem.

Speaking of him, when does he sleep? Scientists say that the humans require at least 6 hours of sleep per day to avoid sleepiness so which hours does he sleep? Or does he take lots of naps during the day?

On a related note, will not Owen have to age sooner or later? I can just imagine a photograph of Owen taking today looking the same as he does in twenty years.
**END XANATOS DEBATE**

Demona vs Sata - Hands down Demona. She has had more experience than Sata. Wait a minute, Elisa easily defeated Human Demona, oh nevermind Demona probably was not used to being confined with human weakness.

**Now and Again comments**
only four hundred fans? Are you sure you did not leave off some zero's.
**Now and Again comments**

**WACKY FAY EVOLUTION THEORY Comments**
Ok, what is the whacky theory of yours for Gargoyle evolution? There is just one problem with that theory: How did humans manage to stumble upon Avalon?
**END COMMENTS for Wacky Fay Evolution Theory**

I tried to go a place on the internet called www.hope.com except I keep getting a message about unable to find a server. Does not that mean there is no hope.com?

**BFTS RP continues**
Notice this takes after Winterwolf's RP and before the next day
DPH was reading a book on magical spells when Rodlox walked in.

"So are you thinking about creating a new magical spell?" asks Rodlox.

"No, just improving on an existing spell I created with Mr. Connect. We never quite got it completely right." replied DPH with sadness.

"I can not help you there. What was the spell supposed to do?" asked Rodlox.

"Telepathic communication. Except the spell did something interesting instead." replied DPH.

"What?" asked Roldox.

"It creates a virtual reality world out of the person's mind who cast the spell. Quite literally, both of us were suprised by the results. However, while in this VR world, mental concentration is boosted by a factor of 10." said DPH.

"Yea, but what good is that in real life?" asked Rodlox.

"That's what I am working on. If I can adjust the spell, it will allow me to enter the VR world, see what is happening in the real world, respond in the VR world, and my response happens in the real world." said DPH.

"Sounds confusing to me." replied Rodlox.

"Let me simplify it. The spell will allow to alter reality with my thoughts." said DPH.

"Where is Plastique Saber?" asks Rodlox.

"In my basement with Jason Filler. They are both using Virtual Reality technology on my network of 20 computers." said DPH.

"Why so many computers?" asked Rodlox.

"Simple. It takes that many for me to bog down the VR world generated by the computers. I usually enter the world through magic. Since my concentration is level is boosted by a factor of 10, it means I react 10 times faster than events in the world. I have to have that many computers to keep from overloading the world." said DPH.

"Do you have anything else to do?" asked Rodlox.

"Yes, I am sure that there is a book somewhere in my house that will interest you." says DPH.

*A FEW HOURS LATER*

"Well, Plastique and Jason, how do you like my VR technology?" asks DPH.

"Incredibly realistic world." says Jason.

"Reminds me of ITAG's testing center." says Plastique.

"It should. ITAG helped me with the computer programs and equipment to make the VR world work. Of course, I think you figured out why I have so many computers." said DPH.

"Yes. After looking through some of the commands available in the VR world, it makes sense you would need so many computers." said Plastique.

"How do you afford so many computers?" asked Jason.

"Working occasionally for ITAG. I get paid at least $250/hr." said DPH.

"You're kidding about the pay?" asked Jason. After looking at DPH's face, Jason realized DPH wasn't. "Darn, you can make so much money by being a mutant."

"Being a mutant isn't easy. I have to my mutancy a secret from the world. If the world at large knew the truth about mutants . ." said DPH.

"What would happen?" asked Jason.

"I do not want to think about it. Life would be hard for all mutants. Discrimination, death threats, possible government kidnappings to force people into the military. When I go anywhere, I have to consentrate really hard not to summon lightning when someone makes me very angry. If that is not hard, I do not what is." said DPH.

"I never thought of that. I guess life is hard no matter what." said Jason.
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 05:35:15 PM
IP: max1-61.cwy.cei.net

Parka, Parka, Parka...

Robby and Kyryn: LM EM'D U Friday. OK?

Walrus news now dolphins. Happy groundhog!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 05:33:06 PM
IP: t3-95.visitus.net

btw, before i do the post, has anyone heard from Cassandra lately?

Christine, Doug, others: what's the difference between a villain and an anti-hero? are there anti-heroes on Gargs or TGS serieses?

**TIME-TRAVEL DISCUSSION**
i chose this <--- image because of something i just saw on NOVA:

one scientist said, "i have the free will to walk along this wall. that is free will. can i walk on the wall? no, because that is a violation of the laws of physics, of the laws of gravity."

another scientist, Novakov {may be misspelled} has played an important role in the science of time travel....he suggested that these laws {physics, gravity, etc} would also prevent a time traveler from changing the past. {as an example, NOVA showed scenes from an ep of The_Twilight_Zone where a man tried to kill Hitler, but was constantly interupted.

how's that for an explanation?

*END TIME-TRAVEL DISCUSSION**

Rodlox
Sunday, June 11, 2000 02:44:02 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Just a quickie post (I've been saving a big one for later)

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, Rodlox, do I need bring everybody to the next day (Day when Speed Stars attack)? If so, email or let me know as soon as possible.
**END RP RELATED**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 02:22:57 PM
IP: max1-29.cwy.cei.net

Me again ... forgot a couple things:

Gside > it's from Greek mythology, involves the Python and the mother of Artemis and Apollo.

Jenna > see the other CR for my answer about orcs.

Christine
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:57:32 PM
IP: 15-131.009.popsite.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hi, me again! Just wanted to post something I just got:

VIRUS ALERT!

If you recently received an email entitled "Badtimes," delete it immediately. Do not open it. Apparently, this one is pretty nasty. It will not only erase everything on you hard drive, but it will also delete anything on disks within 20 feet of your computer. It demagnetizes the strips on ALL of you credit cards.

It reprograms your ATM access code, screws up the tracking on your VCR and uses subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you attempt to play. It will re-calibrate your refrigerator's coolness settings so all your ice cream melts and your milk curdles. It will program your phone auto dial to call only your mother-in-law's number.

This virus will mix antifreeze into your fish tank. It will drink all your beer. It will leave dirty socks on the coffee table when you are expecting company. It will replace your shampoo with Nair and your Nair with Rogaine, all while dating your current boyfriend/girlfriend behind your back and billing their hotel rendezvous to your Visa/Mastercard.

It will cause you to run with scissors and throw things in a way that is only fun until someone loses an eye. It will rewrite your backup files, changing all your active verbs to passive tense and incorporating undetectable misspellings which grossly change the interpretations of key sentences.

If the "Badtimes" message is opened in a Windows 95/98 environment, it will leave the toilet seat up and leave your hair dryer plugged in dangerously close to a full bathtub. It will not only remove the forbidden tags from your matresses and pillows, but, finally, it will also refill your skim milk with whole milk.

** WARN AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN **

** Niamhgold rushes from the room, generating a magical shield to protect her from all the rotten tomatoes that should've been used on Fozzy. **
Niamhgold
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:56:37 PM
IP: lac-flex157.ncia.net

Lylth feedback > thank you, those who've replied! This one was something of a struggle (didn't actually tear my hair _out_ but thought about it). Of course, I'm sure the twisting of mythos won't set well with everyone, but I'll chance it.

Doug > what makes you think they're _villains_? ; ) Can't someone be anti-humanity and manipulative and still be one of the good guys?

Stephen > re: Trouble with Garg-Girls, yes, I liked it, and I think I got the message ; ) Glad to hear your computer troubles weren't as bad an initially thought. I haven't seen an ICQ authorization thingie from you, though, not sure what's up with that.

Progress report > oddly, I still have not received either the contract from TimeFare or the rejection from the agent (for Black Roses). In fanfic news, I've begun work on The Dissidents: Coalition, which should be interesting; I enjoy this new batch of characters.

Ghormengast > wow, no matter which way I spell that I'm not sure if it's right ... but anyway, has anyone else been watching this? It's on BBC, the first of (I think) four parts aired last night, and so far, it's quite neat!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:54:56 PM
IP: 15-131.009.popsite.net

Hello
<Emambu>
I don't know as yet.Probably the fan archive.
<Winterwolf>
Thanks for the pic.Instant message me later.
<Rodlox>
Instant message me later.
<Janine>
Same
That's about it if any of you want to im me later I'll be on around midnight.
Bye
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:50:45 PM
IP: usr68.cqc.com

** BOOM! A blast of magical energy scorches a far wall and Niamhgold comes tumbling in over the smoldering remains **

HA! After three days of fighting with my computer, I have *finally* been able to get to the CR! My darned server hates my guts! And I still can't get into the fanfiction section.

Sorry I haven't posted in a while...for the same reasons as mentioned above :) ** Niamhgold brushes off her hands ** Now, let's see what I have to cover...

Shadowrider: Agghh! I had wanted to come in and give you greetings yesterday--especially your Birthday, and I couldn't get in! Please accept this belated "Happy Birthday," slice of Execution cake, and the E-card I'm about to send you! So sorry!
And I think you asked about the significance of Flag Day...It's the anniversary of the adoption of the American flag, complete with stars and stripes as created by Betsy Ross, as the United States's official banner. It was originally called the "Flag Birthday" back in 1885 or such. All my presents get wrapped in flag-styled wrapping paper :)
Hmm...if Sata and Demona go at it. Well, I'd have to chalk it up to a *long* fight. And, if it's a long fight, then it might approach sunrise. And if the sun rises on the fighting pair, we all know who will have the upper hand then...of course, excluding sunrise, I'd have to say that Sata has a pretty good chance. Especially if MacBeth shows up >:)

Christine: Man, Lylth was a *lovely* story! Personally, I thought it was one of the best--especially the corruptions of some of the Bible names :) Nice blend of science, sorcery, and religion, and an *amazing* twist at the end. You will definitely be getting an e-mail about this one!

Xanatos being bad: Before this topic clears the room, I just wanted to add my own opinion--Xanatos is bad, he always will be bad; but it'll take the gargoyles a long time to realize it. Because Xanatos is always working through subterfuge. And there's no doubt, that if it came to protecting Alex, that he'd sacrifice the gargoyles for him. After all, Davy boy considers his son to be more important than the world ("Goliath saved the world. More importantly, he saved my _son_. The least I can do is reinstate his clan to their ancestral home.") Heh. Xanatos will always be my favorite, suave bad guy.

Gyre: Will read "Archangel" as soon as my server will let me onto the fanfic site :)

Jenna: Hmm...is the word "orc" copyrighted. That, I cannot be sure. I know you'll get some people who say "don't use it" and others that will tell you it's okay...it's the same debate that gets brought up when people question the rightness of using Greg Weisman's gargoyles in our fanfic. I suggest just writing a disclaimer on the "orcs."

Jannie: *LOL* Colonel Sanders and Einstein--liked theirs the best! Perfect to light up my rainy Sunday blues!

Janine: I hope you have fun in CA! (whereabouts, Northern coast, southern coast, inland valleys or the oil-line melting deserts? (talking from a hectic personal experience there))

Winterwolf: Hi! Hope you can get more sleep--try some warm milk, and, at the most desperate, get Demona to come over with a taser ;) Your b-day's two days after Saint Paddys?!? That's one of my favorite holidays! There's no way I can forget it now!

Oof...I'd better post this before my server cuts me off.

Adios, gang!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:53:01 AM
IP: lac-flex102.ncia.net

*Emambu staggers in*

Well, I'm officially done with High School (graduated yesterday), and I'm beat. On the plus side, I did get some nice gifts. :)

Janine: Have a great time in California!

Shadowrider: Happy belated birthday!

Brooklyn: I'm anxious to read your writing, but where are you going to post it once you're finished?

SW: The TIE Defender is (without a doubt) an amazing fighter, able to outperform any New Republic craft. However, its drawback is the fact that they're really expensive to make. Since they weren't built until after the Battle of Endor, the Empire (or what's left of it) was never able to mass produce the Defender.

Demona vs. Sata: Without any weapons, I'd have to go with Demona since she has proven herself more then capable of taking on any other gargoyle (as joxer pointed out).

I know you weren't asking this but... if weapons were involved then I'd go with Sata. Demona misses with her laser cannon a lot more often then she hits. Since most gargoyles and humans are able to dodge her laser blasts, I'd have to guess that Sata can also do this. Her agility and swordplay would allow her to easily dispatch Demona.

Misc note: My current cat total is no longer at five... it's now at seven. For some reason the area I live in seems to be a popular spot for getting rid of unwanted pets. Including these two cats, I have found and taken in: five cats, two dogs, and a rabbit. The rabbit died not a week later because of a disease that it contracted after it was abandoned. I was able to find good home for both dogs and two of the cats, but now I have two more to deal with. Both show sign of abuse too. One has a bloody nose, and the other one is minus a foot. I took it to a vet, and he said that the cut is too clean for a trap. He thinks it's a knife cut, and I'm inclined to believe it since one of the cats I rescued previously (out in central PA) had her foot caught in a trap. Both of these cats have collars but no tags, and (obviously) there haven't been any "missing" signs for them so I have no idea who they belong to (just as well too that I don't know who the owner is).

*sigh* I'm sorry that I let you all know this. I know that this was not what you were planning on reading when coming to this site, but I needed to vent my frustration. It just makes me sick to think that people would wantonly discard another living being like it was a piece of trash.

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:38:05 AM
IP: spider-wj061.proxy.aol.com

hey jannie- so glad you commented here gal- I went to a con yesterday and I came across a bumpersticker I got for you- I just knew you had to have it- I don't know if you'll actually be able to put it on your car- but it's a nice way of telling your b of a pricipal what you think--

Here is what it says:

Those who can, TEACH.
Those who cannot teach
ARE RUNNING THE SCHOOLS!

so you like?? I got a few cool ones for other buds- one for me as carpe noctem- very gargoylish

well i had a little boo boo the other day- i was taking my dogs out and it was muddy, and like a dummy, I wore my flip flops- well i slid on the mud, and crashed my foot into a piece of cracked cement- which proceded to tear half of my big right toe nail off-youch! I hobbled upstairs and i when i got to the apt I called out "mike! help! i'm hurt!" I think I almost scared my poor man to death. anyway- we took care of it ourselves- and I am feeling alot better now- I'm hardly hobbling at all :P we got some novacaine spray and boy did that help- we were even able to go to a con later that day- i wore one of mikes shoes on my injured one, cause I didn't feel like having anything snug on that foot. I don't know how long I'll have wear it- I guess till it's a little less sore- I swear the limping and shoe are more embarrassing than anything- I walked into a room at the con, and all eyes were on me-I will tell you one thing- at least it doesn't hurt- I've been in car accidents, I've been burned, ect, ect. but that was nothing compared to the pain of having a nail ripped off. No wonder when they used to do it to torture people it was just a matter of time before they'd confess to anything.

but the con was fun- mike and i both got inspired. ^_^

Which brings me to another note I want to open the floor up too.

Is the word "orc" copyright? I need to know as I am writing a story- I have heard yea and nay- yea, as it was a word that tolkin came up with for the race he created, and nay, because it's in such common usage. Does anyone actually know one way or the other?? I know the word "drow" is copyright TSR, so I'm going to use "dark elf" instead- but I need to know about the orcs??

Any one here have the faintest idea??

jenna
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:56:29 AM
IP: 1cust141.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Chicken joke > LOL!

Rodlox wrote:
>> 1) how does a branch twitch? <<

In the wind, or with a bird or squirrel on it.

>> 2) <<King Jagiello of Poland>> was/is that a real king - or just someone invented for the purposes of a fic? {honestly wondering...and imagining Warpmind asking the author "you need this info for - what??"}. <<

Real king, real statue... even got pics somewhere that I took during the Central Park tour at G97.

Just 54 days until G2K, boys and goyles.
Patrick Toman
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:50:58 AM
IP: aca512a3.ipt.aol.com

g'morning :) A little chicken humor to start the day... hehehe

Why did the chicken cross the road?

PAT BUCHANAN

To steal a job from a decent, hardworking American.

JERRY FALWELL

Because the chicken was gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the
plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to the "other
side." That's what "they" call it -- the "other side." Yes, my friends, that
chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I say
we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the liberal
media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like "the other side." That
chicken should not be free to cross the road. It's as plain and simple as
that.

DR. SEUSS

Did the chicken cross the road?
Did he cross it with a toad?
Yes! The chicken crossed the road,
but why it crossed, I've not been told!

ERNEST HEMINGWAY

To die. In the rain.

MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross roads without
having their motives called into question.

GRANDPA

In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us
that the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us.

ARISTOTLE

It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.

KARL MARX

It was a historical inevitability.

SADDAM HUSSEIN

This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in
dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it.

CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK

To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.

FOX MULDER

You saw it cross the road with your own eyes. How many more chickens have to
cross before you believe it?

FREUD

The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road
reveals your underlying sexual insecurity.

BILL GATES

I have just released eChicken 2000, which will not only cross roads, but will
lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your checkbook and
Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of eChicken.

EINSTEIN

Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the
chicken?

BILL CLINTON

I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you mean by "chicken"?
Could you define "chicken" please?

LOUIS FARRAKHAN

The road, you will see, represents the black man. The chicken crossed the
"black man" in order to trample him and keep him down.

COLONEL SANDERS

I missed one?

Jannie
Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:38:30 AM
IP: 209-144-251-1.hou.port.mytelco.com

Good morning every one. I'm sorry I haven't posted in a few days I have been very busy. I regret to inform you that this will be my last posty for a while. I will be in California until the monday after this comming. If I happen to come accross a computre with internet access I'll drop a line otherwise I'll just post all about it when I get back.

A strange thing happened to me lastnight/thismorning. My e-boyfriend showed up to the Shock Treatment/RHPS double feature. We had not been on speaking terms in over six months. But tonight/thismorning he was very nice to me, he even defended me, called me his friend, and openly flirted with me. I am still in shock. "OOOOOOOOO Shock Treatment..."

The guy I was talking about a couple of weeks ago is having girlfriend trouble(no i am not the cause). After she broke her leg she has completely cut herself off from him. He dosen't know what is going on but if he does manage to become single again he has already told me he would not mind dating me. :) Go Me! Sorry just a little hopeful. If they patch things up I will totaly respect that and be nothing but a really good friend.

Winterwolf, Green Baron, Brooklyn> Yet again I'm sorry I won't be online. I'll be in California. If you get any of those pics just e-mail them to me and I'll get back to you after vacation. If any thing interesting happens or any intriguing conversations come up in the room please e-mail them to me so that I can respond to them sooner.*kisses*

All> I need pics for my web site. If you come accross any that you find intriguing or cool please e-mail them to me and I'll post them. I'm not too particular about what I put on my site(just no porn). Please don't send me any thing too inapropriate.

Well since I've been up since eleven 'o clock yesterday morning I think I'll say good night/morning and fall asleep on the couch before I have to leave in two hours. *huggs the room* Bye everyone I'll miss you!
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa , Az
Sunday, June 11, 2000 08:19:03 AM
IP: phx-238.treknet.net

Woah, lotta green in a row...
Joxter again
Sunday, June 11, 2000 06:30:52 AM
IP: spider-wm028.proxy.aol.com

Shadowrider- Well, under the conditions you gave, with the "no fire or laser weapons allowed" it goes to Sata pretty quickly, as I think her swords will make mincemeat of Demona in a hurry, particularly without her immortality.

Now, assuming what you actually meant was no weapons at all, I give it to Demona. Because while one might think Sata's combat abilities are quite admirable, and Demona's 1000 years of experiance don't count for diddly squat whenever she loses to the HUMAN Elisa Maza... That doesn't save Sata from one thing.

While Demona loses to Elisa basically every time, whenever Demona fights another gargoyle, she is unstoppable. She fights Goliath? She can beat him. She fights Thailog and Delilah to a standstill. She seems to beat Brooklyn in a fight just about every time. Demona beat around the Avalon clan pretty severely until Arthur realized hitting Macbeth hurt them both. She was able to slay Madoc. Yet bring in Macbeth or Elisa and Demona goes down easily almost every time. So up against a human, Demona loses. (Unless its Vinnie, natch.) Up against anything else, Demmie wins.

Of course, Vinnie wasn't exactly putting up a fight on Fortress One. Scary thought... Demona fights Vinnie in an all out slugfest and Vinnie comes away with the win after accidentally tripping over his own feet and headbutting Demmie into submission in one good accidental shot...
Joxter the Mighty
Sunday, June 11, 2000 06:28:51 AM
IP: spider-wm028.proxy.aol.com

Another very quick post.

Thanks to Cyborg and Wilek for their Wishes.

Winterwolf:> 19 March? I'll rememberr it, for sure.

Jannie:> Thanks to you too for the E-card...it was funny!

To everyone:> Random question: If Demona and Sata have a hand-to-hand duel (no fire or laser weapons allowed, no external help, and don't consider Demona's immortality), who is supposed to win? Just a doubt that came in my mind...

See you all!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, June 11, 2000 04:16:00 AM
IP: h213-46-249.mi2.albacom.net

Hm...that disconcerts me, but so be it. Send a message up to Kami telling him that the battle has started. I should be ready and able by then. Darn, woulda liked to have done some training shots, short little paragraphs, but then again, I should have realized the time.

OKay Robby. I might pull a Goku, being late to the battle but not too late. And I won't steal the show. I'm just here to have fun. Hope the battle goes on for a bit.

Let's rock.
Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Sunday, June 11, 2000 02:39:38 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

SJ- The say outright later on that Lady Un has split personalities.

Also, one continuity error in your RP... Black Tiger won't be battling at this point. Upon finding out 4's power level, he gave up considering it a hopeless cause. He got rid of his armor and has left it for Jim, Mij, or someone else to use.

Mecord- Um yeah, there were very definatley plans in action for Mephisto. Thats why I worked so hard to get him off the planet in the first place. Could you please not kill him?

Cartoon Network is now advertising a special on Sunday of lost, never before seen cartoons, including Boscoe "The first talking cartoon" and are also showing a couple of clips from war campaign Bugs Bunny toons. I'm a bit bothered by this BS. Steamboat WIllie was the first talking cartoon, and Boscoe is hardly lost, he was just so bad and boring no one ever normally bothers showing his cartoons. (I still remember hating his stuff back when Nickelodeon showed it with the other Loony Tunes shorts...) And the Bugs Bunny cartoons also weren't lost, they're just usally considered so politically incorrect... Oh well...

Looking forward to the new Sailor Moon eps Monday regardless, despite having seen the original Japanese versions already.

Gargoyle bike crashing- Lexington crashed Vinnie's bike. Brooklyn crashed Lexington's. Brooklyn did not crash the one in "Trust No Future", though Minnie might have crashed hers. That clear things up any?

RPers of the ten saga- To clear things up a little... The official battle begins after the room wipes, which is what I announced two weeks ago, as to allow people to tie up certain threads to get to it if they wanted. There is no official training place since basically, there's no time left to train, and I'll be kicking things off tommarrow. Or today, or whatever the CR clock calls for. Sound good?
Robby
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:38:18 AM
IP: spider-th022.proxy.aol.com

Gside: Haven't read Of Mice and Men? You've missed a good book then. Hope you will read it someday.

Mecord: E-Mail sent to you from me about Kit's and my RP plans. Hope you get it, please reply soon.
Doug
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:10:22 AM
IP: pool-207-205-144-98.dlls.grid.net

Whew! Just got in from work. Pretty bad huh? Well we had to wait on the guys who were mopping and everyone has to leave together so that wasn't cool.
Anyhow, The latest TD was pretty cool actually. My grandfather on my mom's side was a migrant worker in California during the depression and he said it acctually was that bad. No spoiler that others haven't already done.

Xanatos debate-Yes, he was a kick A$$ bad guy one of my favorites to be honest. There was only one other time that I can think of where Franks plays a bad guy and that was the Lois and Clark Superman with Dean Cain. Of course he fit the part perfectly. Creation of the character is only half the battle, you still need a good actor/actress to exacute the part.

Well I'm heading in, gotta work tomorrow too
night.

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:04:28 AM
IP: spider-th063.proxy.aol.com

I would have helped if I had given the citation for my first comment there, I am sure I coppied, but I guess I forgot to paste. What I was referring to was <<Of Mice and Men, a famous Depression-era novel any high-school student has read>>

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, June 11, 2000 01:01:37 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Doug> I contest that statement.

Shadowrider> <>: good to know, it is the only other language I can come anywhere close to speaking.

Cyborg> <<Note to self: don't eat cereal and type at the same time>>: Words of profound wisdom.

It's mp3 time! I have dicided it is time for some more Band, and I give you one of their more renouned pieces, Up on Cripple Creek.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, June 11, 2000 12:40:45 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

**BEGIN RP***
With their freshly recruited demon army, Sammael, Kari, The Hounds, Dyspare and the Administrator ascended upon the designated meeting place that the heroes had agreed upon. Soon, they were joined by Jim, Black Tiger, Jim's clone and the numerous Borg that had followed the Administrator from the Avatar.
"You found the demon army!" Jim exclaimed.
"Yep," Sammael replied. "And they're primed and ready to kick 'Ten' ass."
"That's good, because one of them as already arrived....and she's only given us a few days to prepare before the battle officially starts. There's just one problem."
"Oh yeah?" Sammael's eyebrows rose. "What's that?"
"She's over 200 times stronger than any one of us."
"S***!"
***END RP***

Forgive any mistakes in the above RP....$To all the other RPers....is there a designated place where all of us are supposed to meet up and train and/or fight? If so, hook me up. Need the info.$

BTW, did anyone catch the series premiere of "The Invisible Man" last night on the Sci-Fi channel? I don't know about you, but I think the show has promise. It's goofy, but fun. It sort of reminds me of Good vs. Evil, which, ironically, I think it is replacing (but don't let that make you feel any animosity towards the show). The difference between the two shows is varied (for me though, the big difference is that I actually seem to *like* this show). I'm gonna have to watch some subsequent episodes to determine if this is a show really worth devoting time and energy to. But hey, at least it's no First Wave or **shudder**, Sliders.

Speaking of Good Sci-Fi news, the Sci-Fi channel has just announced that it is greenlighting a full 22-episode THIRD season for Farscape. This is great! Last year, us 'scape fans weren't sure if the show was going to be renewed, but now it's doing so well a third season is locked in....and they've only shown about 4 episodes of the 2nd season so far! Which means they'll be showing lots of new eps soon. Happy Joy dance time!

Bad Sci-Fi News: It's looking more and more like "Now and Again"...which just won a bunch of Saturn awards (which, I'm told, are prestigious in the sci-fi community)...will NOT be returning next year. This comes after the rather...embarassing...announcement that some sort of N&A petition was signed by a whopping....400 fans. In a recent interview with Howard Stern, CBS head of programming Leslie Moonves (sp?) mentioned that the show will not be returning, but a tv movie may still be a possibility. So keep your fingers crossed.

Lady Unn: I'm not sure if she really has MPD. She may, but I'm not sure that it's "natural". I'm thinking maybe she's been sort of brainwashed. Cause she normally is this cute little diplomat, all sweet and cheerful and pacifist, until a soldier arrives and mentions Treize's name...then she's like the love child of Rambo and Chuck "Missing in Action 1, 2, AND 3!" Norris. And, as one OZ soldier admitted, "Lady Unn is a different woman with her uniform on". It fits with classic MPD. She doesn't realize she has more than one personality, which is a common symptom, and when she is confronted with that reality, she doesn't believe it (as can be shown when Trowa starts talking to her about how ruthless OZ is, and she just starts falling apart). It's difficult to say, but I'm actually thinking that maybe the "diplomat Unn" is the dominant personality, and that the "badass G.I. Jane Unn" is the secondary personality that only comes out when she's placed in a direct military role, or when something having to do with OZ triggers it.
All of you folks who've seen all of Gundam Wing, does Unn start showing any more personalities during the course of the series? Or does her current MPD just get worse?

X-Wing vs. TIE: I've read the first 4 X-Wing books, the Rogue Squadron arc, and I loved them. Some great dogfighting scenes in there. X-Wings are fun, and I love them, but I like TIEs better. X-Wings are a big overrated, if you ask me. TIEs may not have shields or a hyperdrive, but they have great mobility and speed. And they're versatile, as can be seen with the numerous TIE variations (I like the Scimitar ;) But, like it's been said, it's the pilot that makes the machine.

Robby: I think the outcry against Travolta stems less from his film work and more from his religious beliefs. I'm no big Travolta fan myself, I only like a couple of his movies, but in general, he's a well-liked actor with many well-liked movies to his credit. It's this Scientology thing....Much how the general public do not want someone sermonizing to them, I think they don't like Travolta going all out with this Scientology deal. It's like, okay, you can believe in it, just don't force it down our throats....and lately, with his movie, he's been talking a lot about L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology, and I think people are a little tired of it.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe that's just the way I see things. In which case, you can substitute the word "people" for "SJ".

Decepticons as Heroes: This is could probably be taken as an insult, but it's not meant to be--of course, the Decepticons see themselves as heroes. Hell, look at the Nazis. The Nazis thought THEY were the good guys. Certainly not all of them, but enough of them really did believe that the Jews deserved to die, and that they were the chosen race above all others. To them, they were the heroes. It's the same way with most "bad guys". Look at Fidel Castro. Communist dictator, guilty of numerous human rights violations. And it's always "oh, those evil capitalists". So it would not surprise me if Megatron and his allies saw themselves as the good guys waging war against the evil Autobots. In which case the whole Transformers series must have been like a Greek tragedy to them, cause they got their metal hineys kicked. In other words, "good" and "evil" is relative, depending upon which side you're on. In a sense, one would be right in saying that the Decepticons are good and the Autobots evil. But, personally, I think in a much more true sense, the Decepticons were just plain SOBs.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, June 11, 2000 12:15:38 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR looking bright eyed and bushy tailed.**

I got a leisurely 8 hours of sleep this morning instead of the usual 4 - 5 hours of sleep I've been getting. I should probably fix my schedule to get more sleep. If only I didn't have a million things to do... I could have posted this morning instead of now when I'm getting ready for bed. I'm still bright eyed and bushy tailed at least.

Gargoyles in the future> Imagine a gargoyle at work that turns to stone on the job. Better make sure the garg is not driving. Now that we've seen them do it. Go Brooklyn!

Janine and Brooklyn> Sorry for leaving so suddenly from our chat last night. My ISP decided I'd been on enough and dropped me. Then I couldn't get on again. :(

Time for the replies.

Cyborg> **Winterwolf sees the cake that Cyborg brought in and cuts a slice for Shadowrider and everyone else in the CR. Then he cuts a piece for himself and slowly savors the delicious cake.**

Night Walker> <baddest gas> Sounds very evil. Since you don't want the dog to get hurt I recommend securely tying down your brother to the bed. That is if you choose to go with that plan.

Gunjack> <Sheba> A prayer for all the loved one's we lost. Especially Sheba. At least you have the memories.

Caliope> <*pouts*> **Winterwolf gives Caliope a hug and a box of tissues** Don't cry. Hey the CR is up! It seems to be localized to http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/

James Birdsong> <read newest Timedancer> That's good. What did you think about it? You know you remind me of Exin for some reason. Anyway don't talk my ear off. ;)

Shadowrider> I'm glad you liked it. My birthday is a long ways away. March 19. Always two days after St. Patrick's Day. Happy Birthday again. Although by now it is past in Italy.

Mecord> Everyone get you two birthday presents a year? That would never work. Unless you took them time travelling also but then you'd have to get them the presents twice a year too. This is all assuming that you'd be aging two years for every year that passed. Most people would probably think oh there goes Mecord the young guy who looks old because I guess he doesn't take good care of himself. Would you really be taking good care of yourself if you time traveled that often? ;) <TimeDancer> I think there would even be the possibility that she meets one of her kids as a clan elder or something. Either one would make for an interesting story.

Brooklyn> I'll send you some email.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf wakes up the next morning having gotten more sleep than in the past few days. After freshening up in the bathroom he finds that Rodlox isn't inside the house. He wanders outside and sees the big guy in DPH's backyard. Winterwolf watches Rodlox as he uproots bushes and other small plants in the backyard. "Hey Rodlox. What are you doing?" Winterwolf asked out of curiosity.

"Nothing has happed for a while and I'm bored. I've been uprooting plant to relax." Rodlox reflected.

"Well I'd be getting ready for a big battle soon. I can feel one coming probably today." Winterwolf felt it had been too quiet for a while and something was bound to happen sooner or later

"That's good news." Rodlox walked back into the house.

Once Rodlox was back into the house Winterwolf spent several hours returning the plants to the soil.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Good night! See you tomorrow. ^_^

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Sunday, June 11, 2000 12:07:08 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.89.242.newyork2.level3.net

Hello!
Just some quick posties.

<Janine>
Couple things we might wanna discuss the next time I talk to you.
1) Your wings
2) The rents'
3) Your fanfic- where you want it to go,character designs stuff like that. Keep me posted.
4)The Mirror pics.
<Winterwolf>
Question as too when the site will be up you said something like this weekend. If so cool!
You said you use Adobe 5.5. But the question is where did you buy it and for how much?And do you have any idea as to how much a decent scanner costs? Thanks:D
<Doug>
I tried to go to the fan website and it wouldn't load.
crap! Well I'll try again later.
<Rodlox>
What's your address so I can get those tapes to you?
<My Fics>
The Irish clan is going along swimmingly! I'm happy to report! I've got the first episode almost completely dialogued now it is time for illastrations.
Future Tense
I think I'm going to put on the back burner until I have more time!:)It's just with school and stuff I don't have time for both. If anybody wants to instant message me I'll be on all night!:)
Well TTFN!:)

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:29:31 PM
IP: usr32.cqc.com

**Mecord crawls out of a shady corner illuminated solely by a computer screen.**

Been working hard on this story most of the day.

Had an interesting thought. If I were to time travel for a day and return to the exact moment I left, should I celebrate my birthday a day early? Though Nov 21 is the anniversary of my birth, it would no longer be accurate with my physical age. Maybe I should celebrate both. Hmm, if I time travel for six months I wonder if I can convince everyone to bring me presents twice a year. :)

Had a Timedancer brainstorm as well. If Sata is in the future she must have some great great� grandchildren around. Though I would think Broadway and company would hide her from them it would make for an interesting story if she met one by accident. I was also thinking about a little allusion made by Brooklyn and Sata in the normal Gargoyles saga about some important destiny for their kids. I wonder if this is something Brooklyn is going to see while they are apart then tell Sata, or if they see it when the whole family is back together, or even if Brooklyn and Sata are going to be separated from their kids by a timedance and not see them for a year or so, during which time the twins accomplish something grand. I was also wondering about when will Brooklyn return to Sata and the twins. It would be nice if he could get back for their hatching, but I realized that it is probably not a good idea for new hatched babies to go traipsing around the time-stream. So Brooklyn may not see the kids until after their over ten or fifteen years old. During which time they may have accomplished this great act that they are somehow destined to make. There�s just so many possibilities. Now I�m excited to find out.

DPH>> An RP crossover sounds fun, but I don�t usually plan my RP�s too far ahead because of unexpected happenings, though I do have goals I am working towards. But if this starts going and you want some more participation or you want to use a character of mine, just let me know. I�ll be happy to help.

Wilek>> I considered the Victory Class but I didn�t know they were atmosphere capable. Even then it wasn�t a perfect match, and I think the Victory SD�s are still larger that the one in my dream. Great link BTW. Just more proof that the Illuminati are behind all the mathematical torture I had to go through in school. :)

Rodlox>> Lex crashed the orrigional motercycle, But Brooklyn did blow up the one they made.

Doug and Kit>> $Maybe we should get together via e-mail and discuss RP plots. Many of our characters are near each other and a little collaboration would be helpful.$

$Does anyone have dibs on Mephisto? If not, can I take him when the time comes? >:)*maniacal laughter*$

*****RP*****
Three cat sized dragon�s enter an abandoned docking bay of the Avatar. It seemed to be the one bay with the least damage and was still in working order. The dragons were surprised that there were no demons in sight. Well, living demons. Several bodies lay scattered about. Then they found one that was human.
�MIB.�
�You certain Kreg?�
�Yes Kyrel,� he intoned, �I do know an MIB when I see one�s badge,� the small dragon throws the wallet over, �The division 6 part was a dead give away.�
�Meradalin,� Kyrel called, �What does your nose detect sister?�
�Elves, sister. The twins I�m sure of it. But one of them is injured, the female I think.�
�Then track them Mery,� said Kreg, �I am eager for battle.�
�We had best use stealth,� warned Kyrel.
The dragons disappeared down the corridors.

Warpmind, Winterblade, Mecord, and Senthet wandered the halls looking for an elevator so that they can meet Bardic on the roof. Senthet was explaining to Mec all that transpired during the gap in his memory. She was just covering the part about ShadowWolf showing up and stopped.
She turned to Winterblade, �Say, do you know what happened to Archwolf? How did he become this ShadowWolf?�

In a faraway underground city, during a dinner conversation, a golden ring falls out of a napkin. Erin picks up the stray ring shaped like a dragon biting its tail.
Erin looks to the others, �Who�s is this?�
No one seemed to know. On a whim she places the ring on a finger.
�A perfect fit, almost as if it were made for my hand.�
$Kit and Doug, this is Lloky, I�m just going to leave her there for a while, but feel free to bring her out if needed.$
*****END RP****

Mecord - [mecordlein@mailcity.com]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:35:26 PM
IP: usr51.mtwest.net

haven't used Brooklyn in a few days. {my that sounded Demona-esque/like, didn't it?}. :)

TGS QUESTIONs:
just finished _Hammer And Shield_...well written!! just one more in that list of Jasper-in-season-one to read...

a few questions though:

1) how does a branch twitch?
2) <<King Jagiello of Poland>> was/is that a real king - or just someone invented for the purposes of a fic? {honestly wondering...and imagining Warpmind asking the author "you need this info for - what??"}.
END TGS QUESTIONS.

Wilek: you wouldn't have to excecute your creativity - whatever=you-ccalled-them...just give them to me.

**TD SPOILERS**
now Wilek, was it Brooklyn or Lex who crashed that motorcycle? ::)
**end TD SPOILERS**

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail.]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 09:09:44 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Cyborg----Well, considering that we probably were never supposed to get GW, but it was a grace from those who rule the distribution that we got. I'm sorry you take offense, but that's the truth.
Gasper
MN, US
Saturday, June 10, 2000 08:28:04 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

:: slips in to post a link to his latest filk ::

Didn't have this one done in time for Avalon Mists... enjoy.

And coming on Monday, I have a big announcement about my web site... so stay tuned. :)

:: slips out ::
Patrick Toman
Saturday, June 10, 2000 08:20:24 PM
IP: aca2e5e3.ipt.aol.com

Hate to double post, but y'all will not believe what I've found (name link)...think of this next time you pick up a bottle of ketchup. ;)
Wilek again
Saturday, June 10, 2000 08:18:36 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

X-Wings vs. TIE Defenders> I'll say this much--in TIE Fighter, I used to dread the sight of A-wings hypering into the battle, until I got a Defender. Then, they were targets, just like everything else. ;) Oh, and for some reason I much prefer the design of the TIE series to the Rebel fighters--don't know why; I think it has something to do with the unity of the TIE series' designs, how they're all variations on a theme...

Rodlox> <<there is only one thing to say then: SING IT!!!>> Thankfully, I don't know enough about Joxer The Mighty or Birdie Yale for this filk to assume a fully developed form with which to inflict itself upon the multiverse...unfortunate, in a way, since if it did, I'd finally have the excuse I'd need to execute my creativity divas for crimes against sentience. ;P

Gasper> <<You forgot Squaresoft.>> Not really; I just can't figure out how to cross anything over with Final Fantasy. :}

Warpmind> <<you have six psychotic sociopath personalities with crazy-violent tendencies? Tsk, amateur. ;)>> Five others are paranoid schizophrenics and the other three are like something from the movie Pink Flamingos, so the psychotic sociopaths are much better company. ;P <<the maze (I have a vision of it as a great mansion)>> That's exactly how I was beginning to think of it...I'm thinking, it could be something like the Stauf Mansion from The 7th Guest and The 11th Hour; fairly normal-looking, if rather creepy, on the ground and upper floors, and a squalid dungeon for the basement...<<we'll need a lot of those little urethra-parasite fish; the kind that swims up and lodges its spiky fins inside the victim's... uh, well, you know.>> >_< Ouchie...<<Furthermore, we need a cozy, friendly-looking, inviting corridor. This corridor must be completely safe to stay in; no tricks, no traps, no nothing. This to play on the player's paranoia. :)>> <muhahaha> There is no greater torture than waiting for the other shoe to drop. >:) <<Sorry if I'm getting zealous here, but I REALLY love the Defender!>> And I thought *I* was obsessed with the thing. ;P (j/k) Seriously, I spent half a year (or maybe it was a year and a half; I forget) looking for the Micro Machines Action Fleet toy T/D that Galoob released a few years ago...I eventually managed to find one, which is now enshrined among other such holy icons as my Archer, Vega, Ifrit, Edea, and Zero action figures...

Anime> I manage to catch an episode of Gundam Wing every now and then...I'm sure there's some manner of collossally complex plot that I'd probably enjoy, but regular viewing isn't an option for me so I'll have to content myself with reverse engineering the weaponry for use in my ficverse. :) (I like Lady Unn though...)

Green Baron> <<That's the guy. I wonder how he'll flame us :)>> Heh, I'd be surprised if he even remembers us...

SRS Jr> <<I've lost EVERYTHING! ICQ, Netscape, AIM, everything! And unless I can find the install disk for my Zip, I'll have lost all of my stories and fanfics too...>> :O <twitchtwitch> <slowly lowers DC into a vat of acid>

SOROW> <> :( What's the matter? We're all here for you... <hugZ>

SJ> <<speaking of feminine men, chalk Zekks up there. Give him a dress and some lipstick, he'd really look like Relena's twin--twin sister, rather.>> I always thought he looked like Angemon from Digimon (at least, in his helmet/mask thingie). ;P

**TD SPOILERS**

Wow, I never knew Brooklyn knew how to drive (anything other than a motorcycle, at any rate). :) Very kewl story and pic, as always... ^_^

**END**

Nightwalker> Welcome back! :D <<I hate my brother even more now. He is very irresponsible with the dog. We had him for less than 2 weeks and he put him on the top bunk. Supposedly the dog jumped off from about 7 ft. high. He's afraid of 2 ft. Nothing would jump from that high. Anyway the little dog's leg is in a cast now, poor thing. It's a yorkie, only 4 months old too.>> Oh no! :( Hope he recovers soon.

Matthew> <<TIEs don't have ejection seats>> Actually...check out http://www.theforce.net/swtc/tie.html...

Kitainia> <<As for Revolta, well what he did in Paris makes me angry>> I didn't know he was related to a Power Rangers villain. Explains a lot about Scientology, now that I think of it. ;P

DJ> Wacky Fey Evolution Theory> Fascinating...it explains a lot...I can just imagine Oberon's reaction to finding out he evolved from an 'inferior' species. ;P

Mecord> <<Car is followed and fired upon by an atmospheric mini-Star Destroyer.>> This could be a Victory-class SD; it's the next scale below the Imperial destroyers. It's about 0.9 kilometers long and is one of the largest ships that's capable of atmospheric travel...

Gunjack> Sheba> :`( <moment of silence>

Christine> <<MPD vs. schizophrenia. That's got to be one of the most common misconceptions about schizophrenia ...>> Yup. I think it stems from the fact that, at its etymological roots, schizophrenia means 'split-headed', which is easily misunderstood as multiple personalities...

Brooklyn> <<POODLE>> SHIH TZU ;P

Doug> Blair Witch> I rather like the movie, but I can definitely understand why you don't; it can be quite the disappointment to go into a movie theater expecting a story and instead being presented with what amounts to evidence footage from the scene of a crime. ;) The movie doesn't really tell much of the story; rather, it's just one piece of a rather large puzzle, which appealed to my interest in patterns and connections... <<in no way lived up to its hype>> True, there was way too much hype...I really don't see how any movie could have lived up to that kind of advertising...<<Especially since I can see no entertaining way in which Blair Witch can be continued in fanfic or other media at all (can't believe they're making a sequel).>> Simple--instead of trying to continue and build upon just the events of the movie (which would be unacceptably limiting), have all the stories take place long *before* the movie, at the times of major events in the mythos. There's a very nice timeline at www.blairwitch.com. ^_^ <<don't see how Blair Witch can be crossed with Timedancer>> I envision Brook being tossed into the forest near Blair, Maryland in February of 1785... =) <<but good luck getting something written that at least has good characters and an intriguing plot.>> Thanks. :) <<Easy to do with Timedancer but hard to do with BW IMO.>> If it were just the movie I'd agree, but there are other important players in this particular game, such as Elly Kedward and Rustin Parr, who were never in the movie...nothing much is known of them, leaving a lot of character development room for such deranged individuals as myself to play with... >;)

Shadowrider> Happy birthday! ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Saturday, June 10, 2000 07:52:18 PM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Gside: Sorry, I meant Appleseed. Note to self: don't eat cereal and type at the same time.

Green Baron:<::hugs::> Thanks for the hug, I hope my hardware didn't bruise you too bad.

Gasper:<considering Gundam Wing is aimed towards getting more females interested in the whole series, they use
pretty boys.> Hey, I do not resemble that remark at all. I am a girl and I much prefer Mr. Scarred-Muscled-and-Agressive to those feminine wimps. Unfortunatly, I can't say anything else about Gundam Wing because I haven't found it in the stores yet, and it has not been broadcast here :(

Shadowrider: *wheels in the birthday cake, and hands him the flavor remote controle* I'm glad to hear that your birthday has so far been a good one. Many happy returns my friend.

Au revoir.
Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Saturday, June 10, 2000 05:01:53 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Decepticons as heroes>> Good grief. How did that thread ever come about? The Decepticons were evil, through and through. They cared nothing for humans, would just as soon destroy them as enslave them, and those're their good qualities! The Autobots on the other hand were good and noble. Willing to give up their own lives to save innocents. Tell me, besides that mad doctor who worked with Starscream, how many humans willingly collaborated with the Decepticreeps? On the other hand, the Autobots were quite well liked and indeed, even participated in charity events. Did the Decepticons ever participate in charity events? Only to steal the proceeds, if ever.

**RP- The Ten Saga**
Work continued on the radical modifications to the Dragon Warrior armor. Meanwhile, Matthew was receiving a report from his robotic assistant.

#A wing of Guardio-bots is prepped and ready to launch on your command.#
"Good. Now, I want you to take half of those Guardio-bots and pack them with X-plode."
#Eh? Why turn them into flying bombs?#
"Simple. We'll add a little extra programming to allow them to function as effective kamikazes, to make suicide runs on #4. I don't know how effective they'll be, but every little bit will count."
#I understand. I'll see to it immediately.#

And the work continued.
**End RP**
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Saturday, June 10, 2000 04:39:59 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-106-213.bellatlantic.net

Decepticons of the past---Though I never had them, I always liked the orginal Predacons, that formed into the moster robot Predaking. He was definately a favorite, though I never had any of the pieces. I did have all the little pretenders, and they made a robot that stood as high as PowerMaster Optimus. I would have to say another of my all time faves was Skylynx. Witty as all hell, which was good during the Red Dust series. Another good one was Galvatron...damn...he had some power. I liked him (Megatron) better in that morph anyway. Personal preference. One last one I always liked was Omega Supreme and Bumblebee. Two faves.

Xanatos--I think both sides have good points. TGS does make Davey boy a little kinder and nicer. And I like that, but even a little schemming wouldn't hurt the guy. I like him as nicer to the clan and such. But I'd hope he'd still have some side deals going on.

RP Related---I guess we're making up #4 as we go along. Well then, no problem. Also, seems DW and I are on our own.....unless you guys want a piece or two of the action.

Let's see....X-wing debate has been done to death. X-men, after from what some have said makes me feel a little better.

****RP-The Ten Saga*****

Somewhere in the world there is a large tower that climbs farther then the human eye can see. Not many know where it is. Not many know it exists, but to some, it has been the source of hope since the days before Arthur Pendragon. The tower, with a ladder at the bottom, will lead you to a fantastic place. Two rather. One, is Karin's. Though he may look harmless as a small white cat who talks, he is the formost knowledgeable in the use and growing of Senzu beans. Not many are harvested, as it is difficult even for him to do. Further up the tower, named after the aforementioned white cat, is what looks like a Large bowl with a flat top. From this look out, a strange humanoid, green in collar, old in age, looks out onto the planet that is his to watch and protect, but not interfere. Beside him is as short little man with a turban. Mr. Popo is Kami's helper, as he has been to the other Kami's of this planet. On this day, the found them selves in a rather interesting game of chess, when they heard a roar come from outside the palace they habited. Grabbing his staff, Kami led his friend out of the palace, and saw a familiar ship land. The ship had two mandibles, a disk like shape, and a conical cockpit. The loading ramp opened, and a figure in blue and green walked out. Coming towards them, Kami made his way to the the pilot, and met him halfway. They stared at eachother for a moment, then gripped arms in a communal gesture of friendship.

"It's good to see you again Master Kami, I apologize for not being around like I should. My business with the LOF has increased, and no we face an even larger problem."

"So I've heard," said the Namek, "I was expecting you anytime really. Though you were not around for the Cyber Smurf, which was a good thing, you will now have to face the 9 others that are coming."

"Then you picked up the broadcast from 4?"
"Yes, and even though I taught you never to use those damndable scouters, I know you realize that you have very little chance to defend the Earth from her." Gasper nodded, almost shameful for his dependence on technology.

"I'm sorry Kami. I needed to focus for the battle, and the sc-"
"Do not use excuses my son. They are not needed. Come, I know what you are here to use. Mr. Popo has made the preperations, and the room is ready for you." They walked through the palace and into a small corridor that was open air. Gasper looked at the door, and nodded.

"I need some light armor made up, preferably Sayian, and I know you don't like them, but I know they have good protection, and it will help."

"So noted. It will be waiting for you when you return. How long will you be in there?"

"36 hours."

"I thought so. Good luck my son, you will have ample time to work." Kami watched Gasper walk towards the door. Stopping, he looked down to Mr. Popo.

"Hope you're taking care of him Mr. Popo."
"Ofcourse I am Gasper. Good luck."
"Thanks." Opening the door, he looked back, nodded, and entered. Mr. Popo closed the door, and locked it.

Gasper looked around. A small bed, a endless supply of food, and then, the training ground. To his eye, it looked like a snowfield, but it was much more then that, for this room would tailor to his training needs. For it was The Room of Time and Spirit...
*****END RP FOR NOW********

Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Saturday, June 10, 2000 03:49:12 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

DPH shifts into weekend mode.

**RP RELATED**
5 days of BFTS RP per week is enough writing for me. (No RP from me this weekend)

Just a reminder, the archive of the BFTS RP is at www.cei.net/~dphofrules/chrons/bftsrp.html and the listing of the characters is at www.cei.net/~dphofrules/chrons/bftsch.html.

Doug, any crossover will have to be planned ahead down to every detail.
**END RP RELATED**

**WEBSITE DESIGN RELATED**
"Content is king and compatibility is queen. Speed is prince and friendly navigation is princess. Dead links are unsupervised children running around. Inside the castle, Bells and Whistles occasionally serve the king and queen." are my views.

Some people think "Bells and Whistles are king. Dynamic pages are queen. Content is prince. Friendly navigation is princess. Speed and Compatibility tend the horse's stables and are ignored by royalty".

Everybody wants a website that keeps people coming back. For most people, dynamic content is what brings them back. But some companies spend more money on bells and whistles instead of content.

www.startrek.com was a prime example of bad things when it was run by MS. I have not visited recently. Mainframe's website works really well if you have flash. If you don't, it's difficult.
**WEBSITE DESIGN RELATED**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 02:58:12 PM
IP: max1-44.cwy.cei.net

Just a very quick replies:

Doug:> Thank you for the wishes, my friend. My B-day is going well. I hope I'll finish NOTS 2 before leaving, so I'll be able to feedback you.

Gside:> Merci, mon ami...I can't speak French, not well, but it is a language I like a lot...

Winterwolf:> Thank you for the E-card...it was a beautiful thought, and the card itself was very nice. Just for curiosity...when is your birthday?

Nothing more, later everyone.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:42:08 PM
IP: h255-20-142.mi2.albacom.net

**RP AHEAD- LOOK AWAY IF YOU WISH**

In a large dining room inside an apartment building in Ankara, Turkey, Gubio is sitting at a table enjoying dinner and conversation with Erin and her family, which in addition to Fasil include her mother, Mary, teenage brother Hassan, and eight-year old sister Patty. Mist is also in the room, back in cat form now and enjoying a bowl of food along with two other cats and Samson. Bessus comes out of the restroom and rejoins them as the image takes form. "So, Alex," Mary is saying, "you've told us so much about your friends and your business here concerning them. I do hope you can go about it with success." "I hope to tomorrow," Gubio replies, smiling as he sips the orange juice set before him. "Today's events have made me more than a bit tired." "Well, there's a spare bed in my room if you want to use it," Hassan says, then looks at Erin. "He doesn't snore, right?" She shakes her head, smiling. "He doesn't." Hassan nods. "That's good." He then notices his parents are looking at Gubio and Erin strangely. Gubio notices too, and frowns. "What's wrong?" Patty asks confusedly. "I'll explain it to you later," Bessus tells her and she shrugs. "Okay." Erin meanwhile glares at her parents and coughs, then looks at Gubio. "We oughta call the Herbalists' Guild down in the Underground City before we come, set up an appointment," she says. "They have good phones and technology down there, you know. You wouldn't expect it, but they do. There's a big underground river running through the place, believe it or not it connects to both the Nile and the Volga. They have a dam built into it to give power to the whole city. It exists in secret pretty much, you'll probably think it amazing." Gubio nods. "I already do. By the way, uh, why is it kept secret? What exactly is down there that they don't want the rest of the world knowing about, besides a lot of cool herbs and plants?" "It is very complicated," Fasil sighs. "Not many people know of it, our family only does because our ancestors helped build the place. Originally humans lived there, now only caiveh do." "Caiveh?" Gubio repeats. "I recall you mentioning that word at the airport. You didn't tell me what it means, though." "A caiveh is a special creature," Bessus replies. "Most might call it mythological. They're half man, and half lion. Ancient beings, generally good and peaceful in temperament, but also very skilled warriors, magicians, and craftsmen. One of them, Terrell, taught Erin to fight." "And did it well, too," Erin adds, smiling fondly. "He's still alive, as far as I know. The current leader of the caiveh that inhabit the Underground City is named Vincent, he lived in America until about thirteen years back, we'll get him to set things up down there for us." "Okay," Gubio replies. "These caiveh don't like humans?" "They do," Mary says. "It's just that many humans don't like them. Back before the time of Mohammed, my husband's people lived in harmony with them. Our race and theirs taught each other many things." "Yeah," Hassan sighs. "Then when Mohammed published his texts and everyone was uniting under them, the caiveh wouldn't give up their worship of nature in favor of Islam. So some medieval fundamentalist types started wiping them out. They had to retreat and hide down in their underground cities, use magic to keep us humans out. It took a long time, and a hell of a lot of changes in the world, before they could trust humans again as a species." "Some of us continued to be friends with them through the centuries," adds Bessus, "but not many. Thus the caiveh have remained unknown to history. They made sure to swear us to secrecy, for obvious reasons, we still keep the oath in these times. Even in this age, mankind fears what is different. Witness groups like the Nazis, the Quarrymen, the Ku Klux Klan�" "Yeah, I know," Gubio sighs. "Well, as long as they trust you, I'm sure we'll have no problems." Erin nods. "I wish I didn't have the strangest feeling you weren't right." She sighs and looks away. Gubio frowns in her direction for a moment, but when she does not respond goes back to eating the food before him and complimenting Mary on it, earning her smiles between worried looks exchanged with Fasil. Outside the building, Kieran Flanagan gets out of a small Land Rover, takes a satchel out of the trunk, and hums to himself as he starts to walk towards the complex's front door. As he reaches and opens it, the screen goes blank.

**END THIS BIT OF BACKGROUND-FILLING AND TENSION-BUILDING RP**

Greetings friends. :) Well, it's Friday night, and Kit and I have now passed intact through the first week of summer classes. Been a while since we've taken them, we'd forgotten how intense they are. Our first tests are next week <gulps>, with lots of reading to do this weekend and papers in the near future. How I'm finding time to get caught up on the room with all this going on I have no idea, but I'm doing it anyway. <grin> And I'm happy for it too. The trials are made worth it when you get the reward of hanging with your friends. :)

Fanfic Progress: The above problems are making my time for fanfic limited. <sigh> Good thing that NotS 3 has at least been outlined and is almost done now. I just have one enormous battle scene to write (I'll probably do it tomorrow), then a whole bunch of wrap-up scenes that will take longer to produce but will be worth it for the character and plot developments they give. I'm still trying to have the story out by early July, hope I can do it. Glad the few people who have sent me feedback seem so eager for it. Hope there are dozens of other people out there who also are (and who will change their ways and send me feedback soon :). Now on to replies.

�Oh wait, first there's something I have to do. A tribute. A salute to a man who has passed on, a man who, like Charles Schultz, Gary Larson, Bill Watterson, Greg Weisman, and others has been a great inspiration to me with the creative work he has churned out of his brain and shown to the world. A great man who has passed on now, but whose intelligence, wisdom, and skill at humor will always be remembered. A man who was able to do political cartoons that were funny and yet made good points. A man who wrote a comic strip that made many good points about things in life, from sports to computers to auto repair to raising a child to looking for love and getting rejected to friendship to politics to�many other things. Writing is of course one of them, I will never forget all the times I've read this man's comic and laughed, then thought "Hey, this is true!" and smiled even wider. Always will I empathize with the writer in it, with whom I have shared many feelings of disappointment (Cosmo- "I finally got over my writer's block!" Shoe- <smiles> Great! Now you have to contend with reader's block." <chuckles as he crumples up column Cosmo handed him and throws it away). I speak, of course, of the comic Shoe, and of the man who created and wrote it, Jeff McNelly. A great man who was taken from us far too soon, and will be missed immensely. Join me now, in a salute to him. <Doug proceeds to re-enact several classic Shoe moments, sitting in a bar and getting rejected by all the women there, glaring at a bird annoyingly playing the guitar and yelling at him to shut up, sighing as his writings are crumpled up and thrown away by an uncaring editor, shaking his head at the pile of work on his desk, thanking a fat Navy Seal for some donuts stolen from a missile cruiser's vending machine and then protesting because they're salty, driving an ancient car that comes apart as it goes down the road, and doing other things the main character of Shoe did in his time. At the end of it, his computer freezes up, but Doug whacks it and it starts going again. He grins, saying computers still need discipline.> Hope you enjoy heaven, Jeff. Down here, your memory and influence will never fade away.

There, now we can get on to replies. :)

Janine: Sorry I forgot to mention this last time, but I want you to know that I too am praying for you as you go through the perils of your life. I may not know much about them, having made the smart move of getting away from my parents' thumb as soon as possible, but I can sympathize. Good luck dealing with everything in your life- your friends, your job search, college, your parents, and everything else. I hope that soon you can get out on your own and live with at least a moderate amount of freedom from all of it. And then never have to go back. :) Hang in there, friend. It will happen. :)

Archwolf: Good luck with your life's problems too. Glad they seem to at least be calming down now, and getting close to ending. :) Hope your knee improves. $ I too have no problem with making Shadow Wolf a minion of Thailog's, though I would like to know a bit more about him. Hope we can find out more soon. :) $

SOROW: I would say something to help you get un-depressed, but it looks like Winterwolf, Kit, and others have covered that already. :) So, I'll just add that I am glad you're happy again now, and hope you will stay that way for some time to come. Not sure if I can help you do it, but if you think of some way I can, I'll try. :) Will miss you this weekend, hope you soon come back.

Shadowrider: Happy Birthday to you, friend. Hope you have a good one. Sorry that your military service is getting in the way of your writing, hope you can get back to it easily when the time is over. I'll be looking forward to reading the stories, as other people will, I'm sure. :) Thanks for your feedback on NotS 1, glad that you enjoyed it. Hope you will feel the same way about Part 2.

Avalon Mists Contributors: Speaking of writing, I have now finished all of that in the current Av-Mists Issue. Liked it all, especially Stephen's two stories, which had great plots and character interaction. The Mummies Alive crossover story did too, though I couldn't really get that into it because I never watched MA when it was on. :( The Buffy crossover I'd read already, but it was good to read it again. Also enjoyed the songs and poems, even though I didn't find any particularly memorable this time around. Maybe next time I will, I think in this issue the Swimsuit contest results and the Random Gargoyle Generator stole the show and made everything else pale by comparison. Perhaps in the next one some excellent fanfic or poem will stand out more, like the artwork in this one did. :) Looking forward to it. Thanks to all contributors to Av-Mists for their work on this issue, hope you keep it up with the next. :)

**SPOILERS LURK IN THESE WATERS**

Once I Built a Tower: Good episode. I've never really read too much Depression-era writings, and the ones I do I don't remember that well, but I have to say that this story stood out as a tale of the times. It didn't even need a cameo from Lenny and George (main characters from Of Mice and Men, a famous Depression-era novel any high-school student has read) or some gangster, either. It had good people (the migrants) in trouble with bad people, with a very easily understood and familiar conflict at the root of the problem. Brooklyn was able to jump in and effectively help them, in good ways that developed his character, also providing good action and confrontation scenes ( I too really liked the truck chase and the accompanying pic). Celer was also developed somewhat, and his character ended up in a good place. I hope to one day see some stories about how he becomes adjusted to the time he's now in, but for now what was done with him has been good. It was also neat seeing Brooklyn help Sara Jasper's ancestors, if indeed these people are so, can't help but wonder if Celer is also related to her in some way (maybe we'll find out in a later ep :). Chris was an interesting character too, well-written in his reaction to Brooklyn, dialogue, etc. Definitely a good man for Celer to live with now that he's free of Timedancing. Hope Brooklyn gets another good companion (Sata preferably :) real soon, it's good that he doesn't have to worry about Celer anymore (<sighs> I hate to be thinking about Celer like this, by the way. It's almost like I'm glad he's gone now, because we didn't really get much development out of him. Wish we had, so I could feel different. Or maybe my belief will be proven wrong. :). Overall, I give the episode a 9/10, liked the plot, artwork, and developments. It was as long as it needed to be too, and that was a good thing. :) Wonder if Brooklyn will return to the '30s again someday for another adventure, a gangster deal might be entertaining especially if the crooks in question were Mace Malone and Dominic Dracon. :) For now, I'm just looking forward to seeing where he turns up next. :)

Christine: Enjoyed Lylth, the plot had many startling developments and was very entertaining. You gave a very interesting and detailed explanation of garg evolution, liked reading it very much and how it was interwoven with human mythology. Many parts of that story can create cool future fics too, I can't help but wonder if Goliath or Amber will ever come across an ancient gargoyle city and what their reaction to it might be. :) I especially enjoyed Gustav's involvement in the story and his interaction with Demona, as well as what happened at the end. Very good development on Demona in this story, I look forward to what will happen with her in the future. Lylth and the Dragon made interesting characters too, can't help but wonder if we'll hear from them again before your work's all said and done. It's just too bad they have to be villains. :) Keep up the good work, hope to soon be reading your next fic. :) Congrats on dealing with the cat and overcoming the pain in your ankle (which I hope soon fully heals).

Gone in Sixty Seconds: Saw this tonight, and really enjoyed it. The paper gave it three stars, I would have given it five. It was a very engrossing action movie, with great stunts and dialogue as well as interesting characters who were developed well all throughout. The script got predictable at times, but was overall very well-written, and I could not find the big plot holes the paper's critic said were there. :) Also good preformances from Nicolas Cage, Angelina Jolie, and all the other actors and actresses. Overall, I definitely recommend this movie to my friends here. Go see it if you want a wild engrossing ride that is well-written and emotionally involving but will still keep you on your toes. :) Coming next week- A review of the latest movie about the biggest baddest black detective there is, the guy who may take you down but will never let you down. Yeah, I'm talking about Shaft. :)

**WE HAVE SAILED OUT OF THE SPOILERS**

Kyryn: <nods> We're sorry we missed you too. Thanks for the suggestion on how to find you next year. You have my word that if we go then, Kit and I will be tracking you down and saying hello. :)

Brooklyn: Sound like you have good developments in mind for the Irish Clan, I look forward to seeing them in your fanfic when you post it. Please let us know when you do.

Stephen: Congrats on the computer restoration and glad your friend's problems are easing. Also congrats on getting to meet Hickman and Weis. May all our lives be as lucky. :)

DPH: That gas station requiring a fingerprint for a check surprised me. You definitely have the right to boycott those paranoid people. Hope it helps them ease up on the fear. :) $ No problem with RP crossovers from me, just as long as we can plan it and set things up well beforehand so it doesn't look bad. <trusts that we will if it's done> $

Robby: Sorry I missed you and Aaron too, next time Kit and I will do a post right before we leave saying with surety whether or not we are going so you can look for us. Wish we'd looked harder for you. :( Thanks for the explanation of power levels.

GXB: Obnoxious Prime. LOL!!! I'm definitely with you on Transformers, I too have always liked the bad guys' characters better. They were cooler in the original series than the good guys, and have remained so since. It's just too bad the current Decepticons don't have anybody like Soundwave in them (he was my favorite). :)

State of Animation and Its Effects on Us: Good comments in this debate recently from Kaioto, Oracle, Kit, and Green Baron. Not going to comment on it further than that, I'm very tired right now and don't want to get bogged down in something where I can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said anyway. :( I doubt this debate can get settled IRL in my lifetime, but still hope it can, to the benefit of all of us who have sense and wish to take responsibility for raising children and helping them become good people, as well as educating them about the world in a way that prepares them to effectively accept and deal with the possibly negative stuff and not just block it out. <sighs> That's all I'm gonna say.

Wilek: <Somehow I sense you wouldn't like the Blair Witch/Timedancer crossover miniseries
I'm trying to work on.> No, I most certianly would not. Especially since I can see no entertaining way in which Blair Witch can be continued in fanfic or other media at all (can't believe they're making a sequel). The kids came on screen and made a bad movie that in no way lived up to its hype, made asses of themselves for all of us to see, got scared by things that only seemed weird to this viewer, and died. Then later it was revealed the whole thing was not a true story like we were led to believe (big surprise). The story's over, and IMO we shouldn't produce any more of it. But of course some people feel different. Hope they are at least entertained by your stories when they come out (don't see how Blair Witch can be crossed with Timedancer but good luck getting something written that at least has good characters and an intriguing plot. Easy to do with Timedancer but hard to do with BW IMO. <sigh>).

Aaron: Glad you had fun at A-Kon too, sorry we missed you. Hope next year it will be different. G2001 will be in LA, huh? Great, hope Kit and I can make it. We're gonna at least try. :)

Nightwalker: Welcome back! Sorry to hear you got psyched up about moving and now you're not. Oh well, sometimes staying in the place where you are can be good too. :)

Mystery Informer: Thanks for that X-Men info, good to know the actors are caring about their characters and performances (some of them anyway :). I hear other interesting things are being done with the film, like they're actually giving Toad cool powers and are going to have a Kitty Pryde type character who can walk through walls. I may just have to check out the film come July and see if it lives up to the hype. <grin>

Xanatos: Good points about how he's still a schemer even though he's assisting the clan now, GXB. I agree with them. I somewhat regret having only shown shades of the dark side of Mr. X's nature that is still prevalent in my ficverse so far (and especially not having done much with it in a long time). But he has developed past it in many ways in my stories, though, so maybe it's gone�:) Nah, I will be doing something else with it soon, don't worry. Just have a lot of other things to get through first. As all my readers know, there is a lot of effect to consider in my ficverse if it gets revealed that Xanatos is still up to his old tricks in some ways. :) I too hope to see his dark scheming side come out again in TGS someday, and see him in conflict with Thailog (though Thailog will likely have more conflict with Goliath and Demona in the future than Xanatos, some dealings with Mr. X might be good to watch take place :). I also agree with and like the comments from David G about Xanatos's doing everything with an ulterior motive (he acts the same way in my ficverse), and those from Todd about the motivations behind Xanatos's past dealings with the clan.

<sighs> And I think that's everything I wanted to say. I'll go get some sleep now so I can get rested up for that big battle I'm going to write when I wake up tomorrow (yeah, I know it's already tomorrow, but it won't feel like that for me until I've slept :). See you all later, have a good weekend and night.

**MORE RP ACTION**

The screen comes back on, displaying the control room of the Avatar of Ganon space station. Mephisto is sitting in the chair in the middle of it, having a female demon succubus treat a head injury he received in the crash into the asteroids while his ice-imp minion stands nearby. "Give me a report on the damage," he orders. "Our thrusters are completely destroyed, Your Vileness," the ice-imp answers, sighing. "We can't move this station anywhere. Most of the guns were knocked out too, thanks to the explosion and the asteroids slamming us. There are pressure leaks, fuel system leaks, and all sorts of other malfunctions continuing to break out all over the station, we're having trouble repairing them thanks to demons and Borg technology not mixing very well." "Damn it to heaven," Mephisto fumes. "What about casualties?" "Heavy. My best estimate is we only have a hundred demons left on board, and more are dropping as leaks and malfunctions blow holes in the station. The MIBs who were on board with us are just about wiped out, but that's only a small favor. We need to get this place shielded and repaired, now." Mephisto nods and motions the succubus away, then reaches down to the console before him and flicks a few switches. Instantly the continuing asteroid bombardment of the station stops, energy shields around it now absorbing any shards that strike. "There," Mephisto nods. "That's one problem solved. Now if we can just get our thrusters working so we can escape. We barely even made it to Jupiter, now we're stuck on a big asteroid with no power just waiting for the Ten to catch up to us. Please tell me our power source hasn't been damaged." "It hasn't, my lord," the ice-imp answers. "But if we don't shuttle power away from the areas of the station that have been damaged and destroyed soon, it could have a short, an explosion, or some other problem." "And we demons only have a rudimentary knowledge of space-age engineering," Mephisto growls. "I don't know how we're going to get out of this. The Ten could be on my tail even now, and�" "You know, there is one person on board this station who could help you," a voice breaks in. "All you have to do is ask." "What?" Mephisto roars, spinning around. "Who dares such insolence?" "I do," replies what looks like a large floating human head, which is completely covered in black metal except for its face, which the RP camera focuses on for a moment.

There is a flash of light, and the face is still there when it clears, only now it belongs to Doug Elder. He is standing in Area 51 outside the Onslaught, waving goodbye to Bardic as he takes off along with Kit. "Okay," Kit says to the two dragons Bardic left behind after the head dragon is gone. "You two can come with us to help retake the Avatar. We might need you there." The dragons nod that they shall. "It's hardly necessary for us to go, though," the male says. "Three of our greatest warriors are already on the way there, they can surely handle the demons." "We still need to go, I think," Doug says. "Just to be sure." Kit smiles and nods in agreement. "Plus there's some things up there we'd like to get settled." "Alright," the male dragon shrugs, the female doing likewise. "Then we shall accompany you." "Good," says Kit, turning to look at the others. "Everyone ready?" They all call out yes, holding up their weapons. "I have a mini-cam on my shoulder linked through satellites to a TV that's gonna be down here," Tom says. "Leah and that other prisoner we have wanted to watch us at work." Kit raises an eyebrow slightly, but then nods. "Okay. Guess they can do that. The entertainment will probably help the Borg in this place keep them from trying anything while we're gone." "They won't try anything," Tom assures her. "They're good people, despite their past affiliations." Kit's eyebrows raise even more, while Doug shrugs and says, "Whatever you say, I guess. Come on, don't we got a station to save? We can worry about these people later." "Uh, yeah, I guess we can," Kit nods, smiling slightly. "Sounds like your memory's coming back." Doug sighs. "Not quite, but at least I'm getting used to who I'm supposed to be." He turns as Wilek walks up to them. "So is the ship ready?" "It is," Wilek nods. "Miriam's waiting with it. Listen, Doug, about that memory problem of yours�" "Your medical engineers can try their techniques when we get back to Earth, Wilek," Kit cuts him off. "Right now we really need to make sure your station is safe." "You're right," Wilek agrees, sighing. "Just worried about my friends." "We can't fault you for that," says Jammer. "Thank you." "Yeah," adds Stephanie. "Now what say we go up there and kick those demons off your station?" Wilek smiles. "Let's. This just better be the last time we have to do something like this." The others nod in agreement and then follow him across the parking lot to a large spaceship that resembles an oversized TIE Defender painted black. Seconds after they file on board, the ship blasts off into the sky with a few others following and the Borg who stayed on the ground waving goodbye along with Mansfield and Leah. Standing near the cage that holds the two prisoners and using the Force to keep himself unnoticed, Jerec is waving too. Hope you enjoy your trip, Doug, the Dark Jedi laughs to himself. When you return, I will begin to make you mine.

**ON THIS DIRE NOTE, END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 03:43:47 AM
IP: pool-209-138-215-187.dlls.grid.net

Ahh, comment season. After 28 years, you'd think that my father would be able to pump these out like a machine, but no, he needs to sit and stare at the screen for a half hour between each comment (I think he did six during all of today).

tR Mrs. Morgan> Read Lylth. Nice work, as always. Couldn't place the island myth. Oh, and the Corinthian messenger's greeting to Jocasta.

Warpmind> <<Warpmind enters, playing the "Gummi Bears" theme on his ocarina>>: Nah, you need to learn Frog's theme, or some Jethro Tull(Gratuitous K-dawgism: "Last year we had this really big mistake on the CD with the piccolos coming in like 4 measures early, but it was cool because it gave us this Jethro Tull type of sound."), or maybe the flute bit from Stars and Stripes Forever (ahh, Sousa)
<>: A commendable hobby.

Bishansky> I wish you luck.

Rodlox> <<Organic Chemistry, right? but which gas does it require?>>: Yup, orgo, but it is a protein, not a process.
<<momentarily forgot her name>>: According to the IMDb, Dr. Rae Crane. I always liked the Yo Cola bit.
<<now envisioning Rory saying "perhaps if we ran away some more...?">>: Oh, go change your armor.

You know, today I found out that my mother analyzed fruitfly anal glands in college, and my father worked with someone who was examining porcupine testicles. There are just some things you don't want to know about bio majors. Though my father does have some good hunting, seining, and skeletonizing stories...

DPH> <<If you do not opt to choose your internet serice provider when you buy a personal computer, it costs you MORE money>>: Usually, the hike is equal to the discount offered by the ISP (e.g. "first year free").

Shadowrider> Bon anniversaire (so it's not italian, but at least the native country borders (and the language itself is more closely related))
<<Just the capacitors for the Ion cannons are supposed to be bigger than the whole fighter>>: The secret is in the dielectric.

Green Baron> <>: Yes, but the thing is, I can feel the bandwidth drop from Rutgers (Oh, my beautiful ethernet...). I must agree with one of the locals at RU: "For the record: As of this year, I'm a spoiled little ethernet !@#$%" (source: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~tfarrell/stupid.html)

Na zodorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, June 10, 2000 03:33:08 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

When will a new episode of the main series (Gargoyles) be posted? I'd really like to know.
Brian Thietje - [thietje@aol.com]
Naches, WA, U.S.A.
Saturday, June 10, 2000 03:12:44 AM
IP: spider-th023.proxy.aol.com

POODLE
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Saturday, June 10, 2000 02:18:38 AM
IP: usr69.cqc.com

for every one worrying about the xmen movie well here is some good news. many of the actors are reading up on their characters. Case in point The actor playing wolverine has changed alot of the script after reading some of the comics. What changes? well he threw in a lot of Bud's for one thing and well in one of the fight scenes he added a line when sabertooth starts to walk away he added "oh where not done here bud". he did all of this to get a feel of the character and well we will see if it worked.
the mystery informer

Anonymous
Saturday, June 10, 2000 01:15:54 AM
IP: host-216-78-83-179.cha.bellsouth.net

RP WARNING!!
**Undisclosed Orange Base
Oliver Cromwell was with his chief underlings, Rev. Joan Campbell Brown, ArchBishop Weakland, Ian Paisley, and the Orange Duke.

"As you know, the Ten are coming, but I am not one of them. This will not be our fight. We must lie low and let the carnage take place. However, I have a task for you, Ian."
"Yes, my liege."
"Brigitte and that traitor Trimble are planning to battle the Ten by uniting the Catholics and Portestants in Northern Ireland. We must get back the Protestants who have left us and kill those who won't. Then, we shall have all of Ireland under British control and taken over by the New Puritans."**
TO BE CONTINUED!!

Gside> I see you have a home.com address. That's what I have with my cable modem.

Oracle> <<So call me picky>>
3
2
1

YOU'RE PICKY!!! :p

SOROW> ::big tackle hugs:: Let me know your e-mail address if you want to talk, plus i can be reached for IMs:

AOL IM GrnBaron77
Yahoo Messenger Green_Baron77
ICQ 22382390
MSN greenbaron@hotmail.com

Though that's all I have :)

Airwalker> Sorry I missed you earleir, but I hope you enjoy your time in Israel and I hope you can get ahold of some internet access. I also beleive Gargirl lives in Israel, but I have no idea where. Where will you be staying?

I'll finish my post later. My mother needs the computer.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:55:31 AM
IP: proxy1-external.elmwd1.la.home.com

Xanatos debate>> This one's been around before. I think most of us in here agree that even though Xanatos is now friendly with the Gargoyles, he's still scheming. my question is, when will we see this side again in TGS and how will it affect his relationship with the Gargoyles and others. I'm looking forward to him matching wits with Thailog personally. Who knows, if Thailog goes after his family, we may again see the old Xanatos we all know and love. >;)

X-men>> I don't think the movie will destroy my opinion as a fan of the X-universe. They've thrown out some really lame stuff before, and will again. If the movie turns out to be a flop, forget about it and move on. I don't know about naming Cyclops Henry though, is that for real? It reminds me of the time I watched the clasic Frankenstine movie after I read the book. They switched the names of Victor (Frankenstien) and his friend Henry, it was confusing.

Tie vs. X-wing>> It mainly depends on the pilot and what he's good at. My little brother is the master in an A-wing. I hear he's good in the Ties as well. I've actually done extrodinarily well in a Y-wing, crazy as piloting that slow hunk of junk can be. I haven't piloted many Ties and as pilots go I'm no Wedge, but I do best in the X-wing and I am an above average Dogfighter. It's like the Gundams victor doesn't go to the superior machine, it goes to the superior pilot.

Brooklyn>> Pearl Jam TEN, one of my favorites, especially track nine, Garden. It is good for writing depressing scenes.

*****RP*****
Bardic calls over to Doug and Kit as they prepair for their mission.
"My friends, it is time we parted company. My Dragons and I have our own missions to attend to. I am however leaving two behind in Area 51. Dreg and his mate Rynoz over there. Take them with you if you feel you need them."
Kit shook hands with the dragon, "Thank you for all your help."
"It is likely we will cross paths again."
With that farewell, Baric and all the dragons save two, morphed into small beings of light and vannished over the horizon.
In space a dragon thus transformed can exceed the speed of light and with a burst of energy, can break through the fabric of reality. They enter a phased state of multiple dimensions, a hyperspace if you will. It was this mode of travel that allowed three of the greatest dragon warriors to reach the Avatar so quickly. Amongst the asteroid belt they moved, silent in the dead of space and completely undetectible.
*****End RP*****
Mecord
Friday, June 9, 2000 11:34:28 PM
IP: usr52.mtwest.net

I just read the newest Timedancer episode (knows no one cares but posted that anyhow)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 10:56:47 PM
IP: 1cust32.tnt18.lax3.da.uu.net

Hello!!!
Thought I'd post.
Just bought the Pearl Jam album TEN.
It's awesome!!!:)
Well here are a few quik posts.
<Winterwolf>
Great!Thanks for the pic.:) Now exactly what paint program do you use? Where did you buy it? And for how much? I'd like to start making pics of my own.
<Rodlox>
<< Degradating Grauveling>>
Oh my lord I'm sorry please be swift in your punishment!
<< End Grauveling>>
There how was that.
<Janine>
Instant message me

That's about it!
C-YA
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 10:30:07 PM
IP: usr88.cqc.com

Todd> I can see how what you say makes sense. And yes they have flaws... that's one reason why I like the Decepticons I like my heroes flawed. I support favorite characters, who are Galvatron and Cyclonus... both Decepticons and other characters I like being Decepticons. And I think their pros out-weigh their cons (no pun intended). That being said, I don't plan to rant on this topic again here. Anyone is welcome to discuss it with me over e-mail or me and/or Raksha at the alt.toys.tranformers.classic.moderated newsgroup. And trust me, she's very good at debates.

I'll still discuss TFs themselves here with people who bring them up, but I'm not goint to rant on that particular topic here again. I've seen it get heated before, and I don't want that to happen here. The last thing this place needs is another flame war.

I'm glad you agree with me on Xanatos though. I think a lot of people have forgotten who he was after "Hunter's Moon", I'll admit I lost track too for a while. And I do have plans to utilize him in a Transformers fanfic called "Return of the Nightbird" (working title) in my giant universe (though not as big as Doug's).
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 09:51:41 PM
IP: dialin-720-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

GREG BISHANSKY - I probably should stay out of this debate, since I haven't seen too many "Transformers" episodes, but as I recall, the Decepticons were seeking to conquer Earth and enslave all of humanity, putting them to work in mass-manufacturing the energy cubes that they needed to fuel themselves. I don't see anything noble or heroic about that, even if it was being done to preserve their home planet and restore it to greatness.

I do agree with you on Xanatos, on the other hand. An important point to remember is that the gargoyles were never Xanatos's primary target. In his schemes, they were really means, rather than ends. He initially wanted them to use as henchmen to steal from rival corporations such as Cyberbiotics, after all. Just because he's made peace with the clan, doesn't mean that he's given up his scheming against his competitors. Not to mention that we haven't seen any evidence, either, that he's given up his quest for immortality. He only appears to be no longer really a "villain" because he's no longer after the clan, is now an ally rather than an antagonist. But he could still be scheming, in other ways that don't directly involve Goliath and Co.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, June 9, 2000 09:29:47 PM
IP: 216.87.46.161.dialup-stl.primary.net

*** Begin Transformers Rant ***

Stephen> There is a website run by a TF fan named Raksha who believes as I do that the Decepticons are the heroes of the "Transformers", visit the site, read a few of the essays and then tell me what you think. Click on my name to get there. The web site is http://www.plumed-serpent.com

G1 Megatron is a shining example of heroism to me, someone who would lead his people to greater days. Someone who would never let anyone tell him how to live his life. Someone you could trust, truly dedicated to his cause and those around him, and would never ever surrender. He earned the respect and dedication of his troops, only Starscream displayed treacherous tendencies. And Cyclonus is a prime example of warriors' honor... the fact that he stayed loyal to Galvatron, an insane commander, demonstrated that. Also someone you could trust and count on and who's life I'd place my hands in before any Autobot.

Where as Obnoxious Prime is someone who would dictate morals to you and tell you how to be. I don't respect anyone who makes others conform to their definition of morality. He was sexist too, when he told his love Elita-One to stay on Cybertron because only big, strong males could handle the mission... Megatron wanted his love, Nightbird to fight at his side, as a warrior he needed a warrior mate, an equal. And I hate Prime's and Hasbro's "evil Decepticon" propaganda. And he was a one-dimensional character who never had any development whatsoever. I'm glad he died and I spit on his grave.

Here's another way to put it. It's okay to like the Klingons and see them as role-models right? They're a lot like the Decepticons in many ways, but especially in warriors' honor. Back in the days of the original series, they were painted as completly evil beings, but when Next Generation came around, it was okay to like them cause they were now good guys? They haven't changed though? But since Roddenbery and the Federation said it was okay, it was okay.

Sorry, had to get that all out of my system.

*** End TF rant ***

Kitainia> I may write a fanfic like that at some point, write now I have a saga to work on. Two sagas actually that take place in the same universe... which includes TGS, Babylon 5, and Transformers. Though Xanatos will appear in my "Transformers" saga. I have quite a few plans for him. Though he's dead by the time of "Gargoyles: The Third Age".

X-Men movie> This could really go either way. But it has a great director and at least two great actors, Patrick Stewart and Ian MacKellen. So the costumes suck, but that's not the real reason I'm interested in it.

ALL BABYLON 5 AND CRUSADE FANS READ THIS> JMS has posted the scripts for two unmade episodes of "Crusade" on the net, where they can be read for free. They are both very good. You can read them at http://www.bookface.com Enjoy.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 08:54:44 PM
IP: dialin-720-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Ah, Wraith Squadron. That group of misfits is always good for a laugh. From Janson's endless one-liners to the comedy team of Face & Phanan. And the various practical jokes, including the ever popular Lt. Kettch, Ewok pilot. I tell you, when I'm really desperate for a laugh, I get one of the Wraith Squadron books and read it.

As for anime, I find I like the unedited versions quite a bit. In fact, more enjoyable than the edited versions of the same series(though not the same episodes. I've only seen the undedited versions of DBZ from the Ginyu saga on. Though I have seen the spanish version of some episodes from the first season. I can't understand the dialogue, but I know what's going on since I saw the episodes in english sometime back. You know when Raditz blew off Piccolo's arm, drops of RED blood dripped to the ground(I thought Namek blood was supposed to be a different color?) and they did show the beam going all the way through both Raditz and Goku. Also, the spanish version seems to have some story the English version doesn't. There was an episode, early in Gohan's "survival course" where Gohan found a robot in a cave. Robot got wrecked by the end(No, Gohan didn't trash it, cave-in happened) Wasn't a robot episode in the english version. I wonder what else is missing. But I can't wait till the spanish episodes on Telemundo get to where Gohan, Krillin, and Vegita are fighting The Ginyu Force so I can see what it looked like when Gouldo was beating up on our frozen heroes.

**RP- The Ten Saga**
After #4 left, Dragon Warrior returned to the lab in the Dragon Wing. Matthew quickly got out of the armor and immediately began preperations for the upcoming battle. Some of the orders were questioned by his robotic assistant.

#The experimental fusion core? Boss, that thing could fratz out or blow sky high! Up the Neuro-Boost by 600%!? You could burn out your nervous system!#
"No choice Cryton. The fusion core is the only chance I've got of being able to make a dent in #4's defenses. It'll boost blast power as well as strength and speed. And I'll need the extra Neuro-Boost to keep up with the speed-factor. Cryton, she moved so fast to avoid the Volley that I didn't see her until she let us know she was behind us. And I want a wing of Guardio-Bots ready to launch by tommorrow."
#Those scrapheaps!? They wouldn't stand a chance!#
"True, but they can serve as distractions and some can stay farther away to relay her location to my HUD from their scanners. Once she decides to get serious, I can't afford to not know when she's behind me."
#OK boss, but I can't guarantee those modifications will hold together. Why not use the Ultimate armor you're making?#
"Because it won't be ready before Monday. I've got to go with what I've got, but I want it as boosted as possible. It may be Earth's only chance."

They got to work refitting the Dragon Warrior but Matthew knew it would take a miracle even if the enhancements held together.

**End RP- The Ten Saga**
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 08:47:27 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-106-213.bellatlantic.net

Greetings to everyone! I just got back from the birthday-&-goodbye party my Taekwon-do class did for me tonight, and I'm quite sleepy...so please forgive me if I write in a odder way than usual...

Thanks to Winterwolf, Mecord and Kitainia for the anticipated birthday wishes. <sniffs in emotion> BTW, as I'm reading them, here it is already 10th of June, so they are no more anticipated...

Cherry Blossom:> Ach! I wish you a quick healing for your carpal tunnel.

Kitainia:> I am really happy you liked my story; thank you for reading it and for telling me what you think. I promise you I'll work on new stories during my service, but I think I'll no be able to post them before it ends (one year, then...:( )...but as I'll do, I'll probably post at least two in a time (three maybe...I have some ideas to develop...)

Jenna:> Welcome back!

Archwolf:> <> Sorry...but what was you referring about?
Glad you finished and enjoyed my little story. For next ones...well, see my reply to Kit. I just add, the first story I mentioned will probably be quite short (a bit longer than "The Test"), while the second will be for sure very longer.

Gunjack Valentine:> Well, Archwolf already mentioned it...how can all that stuff be stored on a TIE? Just the capacitors for the Ion cannons are supposed to be bigger than the whole fighter...
No problem for the answer. If you want to continue the discussion, we can do it even after I leave...just send me a mail, and I'll answer as I back home.
I'm really afraid for your dog. I know how it is.

Warpmind:> Well, I was actually making a word joke on a popular proverb that my grandma uses to say and that is more or less: "When a Pope is over, you make another..." ;)

No more strenght now. Tomorrow.

Good night to everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, June 9, 2000 08:15:24 PM
IP: h213-20-228.mi2.albacom.net

Greetings all...

Still struggling with this thing-turned-beastie I call a computer... and yes it is a relief that my backups survived. now I just have to make sure I make backups of the backups so that I can continue to work.

MECORD - Yup! Tracy and Margaret were two cool people! Especially with some of the stories they told about working for TSR and now Wizards of the Coast... Plus, I got a photo of myself crouched between the two of them. (hopefully those will come back out when I have the film developed.).

BISHANSKY - I hate to go against someone, but what planet were you on when they started making role-models?!? Decepticons!? Fah! Prime and the Autobots hold a much better candle against those robo-boobs... :)

CHRISTINE - Read "Lylith"... Dang, you just love torturing minds don't you? :) Great story! Must have more!

BTW, what did you think of "The Trouble With Garg-Girls"? And, when you can, resend your ICQ Auth to me... I've had to rebuild my list again.

SKIPPY/AARON/KYRYN/Etc. - Dang, another con missed out on! Wish I could have been there... well, when I get published, maybe the organizers can invite me out as a New Author Guest or maybe a Fan Guest... :) Love the pictures! :)

SPIKE - if you see this, please PLEASE contact me back. I need to know if you still have copies of the front splash picture for my pro-writing site still intact? It was one of the few pictures that were lost when my drives were wiped.

Well, that's enough from me... Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 07:37:48 PM
IP: m142.ieway.com

The TGS site is up and running again.

Spike> Nope. I did see one lookalike. The only pic that I know someone took of me was me standing with Meri, the convention chairbeing. She was wearing a red outfit and I was in the gold and white shanghai dress.

Later All!
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 9, 2000 07:06:21 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Christine: no, i wasn't kidding. i thought i smelled a similarity...but it might've just been my socks. {old joke}. :)

and thanks for posting the order of 1st season Jasper eps, sir!

Rodlox
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:55:20 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Rodlox > are you kidding? "Raptor Red" is the best book I have ever read in my entire life!

Mecord > accuratly and well-said about MPD vs. schizophrenia. That's got to be one of the most common misconceptions about schizophrenia ... those damn "and so am I!" bumper stickers annoy the hell out of me ... I've been working in the field for ten years now and have never met an actual multiple. Met one wanna-be, and the rest are just as you describe. Subject to voices and other hallucinations, delusions (primarily persucatory or religious), etc.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:47:47 PM
IP: 07-141.009.popsite.net

Rodlox:
Here are the first season episodes in which Sara Jasper appears. In order:
Fallout 2
Tightrope
Perchance to Dream
Hammer and Shield
Mutual Trust
Not only do I compulsively archive the comment rooms, I also do the same for the TGS site. :) And I have it indexed for rapid searching. And no, I'm not going to mirror it; I don't have anywhere NEAR that much web space. :P
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:44:08 PM
IP: ppp-12.rb5.exit109.com

David G.: no offense was intended {by me} or recieved {from you}...i agree on the speed of the Xanatosian Reformation {hmm...}, as well as Brooklyn's character......and, by all means, go right ahead with the description of Demona. {i always thought of her as an anti-hero}.

*tries to imagine Brooklyn dating Maggie's daughter* {or he could take a page from Methos: caring for Maggie, despite her age and-or health}.
Rodlox
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:21:04 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Not many people knew it, but Jeff MacNelly was also a talented painter with a peculiar sense of humor. I'd like to pose one of my favs, "Hemmingway Cat #1", in his memory.

TGS site down? Oh, dear... just when I finished that neverending Pendragon story. Guess it can wait till it's fixed.

Kyryn>> Yeah! That's the dress -- but it's not on one of Skippy's pics. It's in one of the other A-kon 2000 photo albums that he's has links for on his page. One question tho -- did anybody wander into the airport with one of those big swords or other weapons and freak out the security guards?
Spike
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:13:47 PM
IP: ppp08-24.ght.iadfw.net

******RP-the 10 Saga*********
Lowering his brow, Gasper rolled over her words in his mind. Looking to the suited man, he nodded slowly.
"Look dude, it's probably best we wait. Even our attacks at the same time hitting her would probably only scratch her armor, if not break a nail. If we get some allies, we can maybe stand a chance." Gasper said.

[You know where they might be then?]

"Not a clue-" he started to say, when 4 broke in.

"If you boys don't mind, I'll return to this battle ground in Monday, June 12th. You have three days. Please don't disappoint me with your petty little powers. My mercy is only extended so far..." And with that, she left the battle ground. Dragon Warrior pressed a button on his Gauntlet. The ship he owned flew forward, and with another touch, he looked at Gasper.

[I assume you have your own transport. If you wish, We will meet back here on Sunday, and work on strategy.] And with that, the suited warrior blasted off. Gasper stood for a moment, then summoned up his energy again, and flew off his ship. Thinking to himself, he made one final decision.

"There is only one way to do this, and it looks like it's time to visit Kami's Lookout." His mind rolled again, thinking, when he decided it was really time to call for more help. "Storm, Broadcast on all Defender channels, all frequencies. Start transmitting now. This is Gasper S. Keltner, Service Number 3243-UN-LOF. We have left battle with 4, and have been given three days for training. Train as best as you can, and meet us at Galactic Standard Coordinates 509D by 632R. Sunday, we meet and startegize. We need all the help we can get. Good luck. End Transmission." He flipped off the communicator, and immediately sped up his flight to the StormRunner.
*******END RP***********

Hey all, here we go, time to rumble with 4, but I've got a couple roleplays for this weekend. Anyway, hope everyone is well.

TIE Defender VS. X-wing------Whoa...now this is a debate. Let's see. I think both TIE/D and x-wing are both closely matched. I'd say that they are about the same, only made for a different group of people. Both make up for their differences, and really kinda make it an even match.

X-men movie----I'm worried about this one....bad feeling.

Tenchi Muyo, Coming 7-03-00. 'bout bloody time!

Anyway, sorry, not much else to day. I apologize for the roleplay majority. But it had to be done.

Talk to you all later.

Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:12:19 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Moment of silence for Jeff MacNelly

Caught Shanghi Noon last night. It's everything a Jackie Chan movie should be. Cool fights, entertaining bad guys, nice interplay between the heroes, and a couple of times where you just cringe because you know Jackie relly did that. Got a pretty good sound track too. (Tho' I almost cracked up when Kid Rock's "Cowboy" started playing. Holdover from H-Fest)

Aaron Bob says 4 skulls, check it out.

Matthew> Well, it's important to remember that in the X-wing books, the Xs are being flown by Wedge Antillies, who is da man, even if he is rebal scum, and either Rogue or Wraith Squadrons. And they can pull off stuff you could never do in the game.

Archwolf><<How can people say that the TIE is a better series than the X-Wing? Experience, preferance, personal philosophy, maybe? But I never said the whole series. Shields beat no shields anyday. But the Tie A and the Tie D can more then hold their own. <<how they fit a hyper drive, suped up engines, enhaced shield gennies, a pair of Ion Cannona AND a 12 missile magazine is beyond me.>> It's all in the wings. <<As for her speed and maneuverability, All speed is good for is quick hit and fade attacks.>> Au countraire. Speed is also good for avoiding missiles and catching rebels. <<Trying to dogfight at the speeds those things are capable of is deadly.>> Actually, I've always found that slower craft are at a disadvantage in a dogfight. I can throttle down to chase you, but if I crank it up, you'll never catch a Tie D with anything but another Tie D or a Missle Boat. (Both Imp products) <<If your opponent gets inside your turn radius, you are one big target. He can sit still, track you, and light you up before you can make a full turn.>> But what happens to him while he's sitting still? Besides, I can always roll and go head on. <<And it still only takes one lucky torp to do in ANY ship in the TIE series, even the vaunted Defender.>> Um, last time I checked, one proton torpedo could destroy *any* snub fighter, Imp, Rebel, or other. But it'd have to be a lucky shot. Wedge's books notwithstanding, torps don't have anywhere near the manuverability to follow a fighter. I'm sure it's possible. Hell, I killed an X-wing with a heavy rocket once, but it was still a lucky shot. <<Skill of Imp pilots..um can we say oxymoron ;)>> Hey, there're a few of us. We're the ones who survive for more then one mission. <<Ok. nuff of that.>> Probably more then enough of that. ;)

Gunjack> I'm sorry about Sheba.

Skippy> Really? Cool. I'm scan the pics and send 'em to you on monday.

nightwalker> Welcome Back.

David G> Cool idea. I kept trying to get the whole NERV cast together, but even with Shingi, Asuka, Misato, Gendo, the guy whose name I forget who looks like Grand Moff Tarkin, two Kajis and two Reis, I could never get us all together at the same time. <megalomaniacal kleptomaniac (She compulsivly tries to steal really big things).>> LMSAO.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 06:02:26 PM
IP: ppp-336.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Rodlox> Let me clairify a bit: Xanatos was originally portrayed as a scheming, manipulative, amoral person. I *personally* think his reform was too swift and too complete in TGS, so I tend to look for ways that he could really still be sneaky and evil.

Brooklyn was always portrayed as a noble, if impulsive kind of guy, so I don't go around looking for his ulterior motives.

I don't feel like dealing with the argument it would set off, or I'd give you my interpritation of Demona...
(Just for the record, she's my absolute favorite character in the series, the one I'd like to reach out to and take away all the pain. Then I'd make sure I still had all my fingers...)

One last thing, though. Brooklyn would outlive Talon, but by the time he did, Maggie would be old, too. He could have waited around to court one of their kids, though... :>
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 05:35:10 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

thanks about the TGS info...but can you pleasepleaseplease help he?: what are Sara Jasper's first few eps?

gee, David G., that's very true, but not much breathing room....let's look at one of my favorite gargs like that - Brooklyn:

*he let Maggie return to Talon {Brooklyn'd outlive the competition}.
*he accepted the responsibility of leading the Clan {Alpha Male, need i say more?}.
*he broke a motorcycle {revenge for Lex's remark of "you wrode a horse once, could you build one from spare parts?" ....though i know a few Merlanes who could}.

how was that? ::)

Rodlox
Friday, June 9, 2000 05:18:21 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

TGS site problems> Chris Rodgers says that it looks like the box (server) went down again. He will reset it when he gets home this evening.

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 9, 2000 05:10:31 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

**The electronic locks on the doors click and Mecord kicks the door in.**

The power has been out here for over four hours. It would happen three pages after I finnaly overcome my writers block. Fortunately the program makes an automatic backup and I managed to save most of it.

Kit>> The color is great. $for now I have no plans for Lloky. But yes she is at the same underground city. She followed Gubio and Erin when Bardic overheard where they were going. Hmm, I wonder what that little flower would do to Mec's condition.... But for now the little dragoness will remain in the background, but feel free to bring her out at need. Sometimes she gets bored and causes trouble for the troublesome. As for Mec and the others, I just put that in so you would have a better idea of their location should Shap and Shaunna run into us. But it's likely that soon we will be heading elseware.$

Spacebabie>> Yeah, I remember Gusto! I always thought he should hook up with Sunnie as well. As if there were a wide selection of options for either. :)

Nightwalker>> I too think Cartoons can be had by all, old or young. I will always keep my eye out for the next good cartoon and will always lament the expiration of the animation I love. It's just sad that so much animation is aimed for the little kids and what could be a great show is dumbed down to a two year old's level. But maybe I'm just being selfish, after all a two year old will want to watch something besides the accursed Barney or *shudder* Tele-tu... I can't even bring myself to speak such blasphemus things. ;)

Later, were having brown outs.
Mecord
Friday, June 9, 2000 05:06:31 PM
IP: usr48.mtwest.net

Ack, I'm cataloging GPO microfiche (which is one of the most boring activities imaginable) and I felt the need for human contact.

Everyone else has gone home for the day, so this will have to do. :)

Let's see what's worth talking about...
The most interesting topic I've seen is the "reform" of Xanatos. I have to agree that TGS let him off a little too easily. The way I see it, he had two choices. (1) really reform, or (2) just make peace with the clan.

Choice 2 is the one I think was more likely. In fact, if I ever manage to start writing Freelance again, that's the way I'm going to portray Xanatos. Sure, he let the clan back into the castle, and he stopped trying to kill them, but that doesn't mean he's turned into any kind of saint. The man is an illuminatus, and his wife is a megalomaniacal kleptomaniac (She compulsivly tries to steal really big things).

Of course, he has changed. Once he fell in love, then had a child, he was poised for some kind of change. He's probably going to be more cautious now, and a little less ruthless. Having people he really cares about will sort of act as a break on his more callous urges.

In my reading of TGS, I automatically make certain mental adjustments whenever Xanatos is involved. For example:
-he let the clan have the castle back (so he can keep an eye on them)
-he tries to help the mutates (so they won't sneak into the castle and electrocute his wife and kid, and because it helps make the gargoyles trust him)
-he fights the Unseelie (cause they'd kill him otherwise. He already knew from dealing with Oberon that he couldn't manipulate or buy them)
-he throws Broadway's bachelor party (cause he knows it's the only way he can see a stripper without Fox getting mad, and oh yeah, it makes the clan think of him as a friend more)

Basically, anything he does has an ulterior motive. He's building up markers, and eventually he'll cash them in. He has to be careful, though. If Goliath caught Xanatos talking to Sevarious (for instance) the big guy would drop him off the nearest building onto a bed of rusty nails.

What else...
A-Kon idea> This year I was inspired. I think next year I'll host an informal photo safari contest. Points will be awarded for capturing rare characters (From obscure or old series), and for capturing large groups (All the Evangalion cast, for instance).

Of course, it's possible to cheat by arranging to have lots of your friends dress up as the entire cast of Captain Harlock, but I don't really care. That just means I get to see people dressed up as the entire cast of Captain Harlock. :)

What do you Otaku types think of that idea?

There's more I want to say, but I can't remember what right now. Oh well, government documents are calling my name...
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 05:04:21 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Web Site Problems:
It is possible that the reason those pages are not accessable is because LM may be uploading the new stuff.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:59:04 PM
IP: dynamiccomp.com

Rodlox> Try clicking on my name for a pic of the type of dress.

The main TGS site does indeed seem to be down. I've sent an email to the Wyvernweb site admin. Hopefully they'll get things fixed soon.

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:43:15 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

*pouts*

Rodlox> the gargoyles-fans page isnt working either....
Caliope
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:40:23 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

Kyryn: ahh, thank you - but Shanghai doesn't really help either...{but thank you for trying}.

ANYONE AND EVERYONE: it's wierd: i can access the main Garg page, and this one...but not the TGS server. oh well...may as well ask the question, since the option of diving into dozens of eps for a single tidbit of info is out....

what were Sara Jasper's first few eps? just curious.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail]
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:15:17 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Whoops! Missed a few things. :)

Robby: The point of the above was that I'm not shunning Travolta, just the bad things he's done. The good things he has still continue to entertain me. Hope you got that. ;

Archwolf: $ No problem making Shadow Wolf one of Thailog's associates, he can always use more. :) $ Glad your life is currently improving and becoming free of conflict. Hope it keeps up. :)

Mecord: Is this color alright? It's a shade darker. $ No problem with you sending advance troops in the RP. We were counting on it for the Avatar battle, in fact. :) Just please don't take out anyone in the Time-Warner Building without getting okays by e-mail from Doug and me first, alright? We have some very important plans we really would not like messed up (Green Baron might too, considering the demon Ted Turner was originally his character). Shap and Shauna can help your characters escape from the building if you want, but you'll have to find them first. As for Lloky in the Mid-East, well, I'm assuming the underground city she's investigating is the same one Erin and Gubio will be visiting soon. There are a few plans for that, but nothing that really impacts the RP back here other than getting the desert night flower for Doug. At least not right now. :) Tyl will be involved, though, and that young dragon of yours might be needed against a certain much older and more powerful dragon should he awaken...:) Good luck with whatever you have planned. Thanks for your concessions, and good entertainment. Hope the latter keeps up. :) $

Happy Birthday tomorrow to Shadowrider!!! <gives suitably impressive cyber-gift>

<moment of silence for Gunjack's dog Sheba>

GXB: I'd be very interested in reading that Xanatos fanfic. :) Congrats on your last day of class.

Okay, I think that's everything. Off to read Lylth now. Later!
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:08:30 PM
IP: pool-209-138-60-190.dlls.grid.net

Hey guys, just a few short replies. I'm babysitting at the moment, I hope they don't kill each other while I'm gone. If they do, oh well. I'm listening to the Princess Mononoke "arranged" soundtrack, wondering how it could possibly be an arranged symphony soundtrack when it was originaly performed by a symphony.

Bronx-Thanx for the invite, I'll e-mail you soon. Are you still doing that RP? Since I'll be using this comp the summer I could probably ressurect my old characters.

Valentine-Yeah I haven't "really" posted since nov. I'm hoping that never happends again. I posted once since then, but that was about a month and a half ago, and even then I knew that It would be a while before I could really become a regular again. I can only get here on weekdays, since my mom has no plan to get me a comp anytime soon , if she ever did I'd pass out.

Winterwolf- that sounds like a good idea. I was thinking that I'd have the dog sleep on his face, that's when Shakespere has the baddest gas.

I know that it's probably been said already but I was looking forward to the release of X-men, not because of the movie itself (although I'm still going to rush to see it) but do you know how many magazines have stated X-men as the film that would completly blow all the other films away this summer? It's proven that as long as there's an audience (doesn't matter if it's closet, or open fans) they're going to want to see it. That means that there is a better chance for the Gargoyles movie if this does become a hit. Doesn't mean that Disney's goinng to pay attention to that though. About the American animation discussion that you guys have been having, I have never really like too much american animation besides Gargoyles and X-men, there were a few other that I'd watch every now and then but I wouldn't say that they were favorites. Most adults in america think that all animation is for kids. I was having an argument with someone about this. His defense was that "cartoons"(I hate that word) are not supposed to be made for adults,and that the only people that watch them are people with maturability problems. I know he didn't really have an arguement there but that makes me mad. The only person on my side was this one girl that stated that "grownups"(?) of all ages enjoy cartoons, that her parents watch Doug and Pokemon with her. That doesn't help my arguement at all but I'd hate to be rude. The only people in this town that watch adult animation either watch the goofy stuff(like Dragonball Z, although I have no problem with that show, I've watched and enjoyed it) or the really perverse stuff ( like La Blue Girl). That doesn't help either. No one in my school has ever seen a Hayao Miyazaki film, or any anime dealing with anythinng serious. I'm the olny one in my town that has seen Princess Mononoke or Kiki's Delivery service. I did have a friend of mine view Grave of the fireflies, He liked it, but hated the ending , he said that he would have preferred a much happier ending. And when I told him that it was based on a book he dismissed the whole thing. I guess people still can't believe that anyone would animate a serious story. Oh well, no one here can handle an animated drama, and most (if not all) of american animation has almost none whatsoever. Doesn't make sense.

Oh well, gotta go. I wrote that a lot longer than I ment to, but no one's died, they're watching MTV and Brittany Spears videos on full blast while I listen to the arranged Final Fantasy 8 and Princess Mononoke albums, I am definatly unique in my family. Yay!

Goodbye all of my rookery brothers and sisters.
nightwalker - [goliath01@hotmail.com]
hobart (**sigh** forever i guess), IN, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 03:55:05 PM
IP: liverpool-118.comnetcom.net

SOROW: Got your message. Thanks again for it. Hope you got my response.

Stephen: Congrats on getting your fanfic and other lost data back. I am sure you are feeling no small end of relief. :)

Robby: Actually, I do like John Travolta for all the things you mentioned. It's just his most recent movie and what Sevarius Jr. said he did to that reporter who was gonna negatively promote it I don't like. Hence, from now on, when I refer to the good things the man has done I will call him by his proper name of John Travolta. When I refer to the bad things and reasons people may have for disliking him despite all the good things, I will call him...you know the answer. :)
Kitainia
Friday, June 9, 2000 03:52:23 PM
IP: pool-209-138-60-190.dlls.grid.net

Rodlox> It's more commonly known as a "Shanghai dress".

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 9, 2000 03:38:57 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Just Read the latest Timedancer
*******TD Spoiler Questions*********

Are the Jaspers in any relation to a certain female cop who is the current flame of Matt Bluestone??
<<-----------As in her?
***********End Spoilers**********
Whoa just got my EW. Sam Jackson is on the cover and they will be talking about comic heros made into movies.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 03:16:27 PM
IP: user-37kaou6.dialup.mindspring.com

**shameless plug**

Just posted my latest fic, titled "The Archangel".
Please read, and enjoy, and please, send feedback.
Thanks.

**end shameless plug**

Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:29:38 PM
IP: fltg-ppp28.fltg.net

Just wanted to see what this color looks like((I'm more of a sky blue person usually))

I finaly got caught up with TimeDancer...just the new one to read and I'm off to began the MiSTing proccess

Mecord>>>Gummi Bears and Gargoyles..another interesting coincidense is when two of them venture on a boat they return with a new one...Gusto gummi who I think Sunni had a crush on.

Robby>>> The sailormoon eps you mentioned, I think Mamarou was trying to cheer Ami up and Makato said something that she was wanting to be a cool woman like Haruka. From my POV Haruka was like an older sister to the Inners. They came to her((and michiru too)) to ask for advice. Haruka had Makato((Lita)) as an admirer and Michiru had Usagi((Serena)) as one

Now for a scary Sailormoon vision, Hotaru((Saturn)) wakes up and sees Kaolinite dressed in a maids outfit she also notices a creepy butler
"Kaolinite what's going on? wheres poppa?" Hotaru asks
"He wants to met you in the living room." Kaolinte says. Hotar goes to the livingroom to see a lot of people wearing party hats
"Poppa whats going on?" SHe keeps searching for him when her father, Professor Tomoe appears wearing a black teddi, fishnets and makeup
"POPPA!"Hotaru then decides that now would be a goodtime to play with Chibusa((Rini))

MTV Movie awards...About frickin time the Matrix got what it deserved and I'm glad Sara Michelle Gellar recieved her awards, she is atalented actress and has great taste in men
She and Freddy are the cutest couple, they are as cute as Brooklyn and Sata,Doug and Kit, Robby and Heater, Goliath and Elisa..... and I was chuckling at Ben stiller and the South Park Scetch.

I also knew about Toad>> My brother used to collect Marvel cards and one of them had Toad on it

Titan AE, I am very psyched about this film
Spacebabie
Orlando, FL, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:20:30 PM
IP: user-37kaou6.dialup.mindspring.com

He everyone,
I'm out of school and feeling good. Just wanted to pop in and rap a bit.

Decepticons for individuality> I don't think it's because Decepticons are rugged individualists, they just have egos the size of Jupiter. Every decepticon and Predecon I've seen (That include the orignal Predecons or the BW Preds)fall into a few types: solider, sycophant, trecherous and villain. Villains like Megatron feel it is their destiny to rule. Not necessarily because they think they can run the universe better or the wrong order is in place, but because they feel that they should rule. You can especially see that when characters like Starscream and Terrosaur try to challenge for leadership. Neither had the backing of the troops nor anything resembling competance to lead, they just wanted to lead because that was where the power was at. If there's a mountain they have to be king of it.

As far as beast modes, from what little I gathered from the one or two comics I got on Transformers, Teletran 1 was supposed to seek out sentient life and emulate their forms, but mistook the vehicles and electrical devics for that life form.

Was someone referring to Frenzy and Rumble? Those are the two robot looking tapes from Soundwave. Rewind and Eject were from Blaster.

Noble Megatron? Remember in the last battle, Optimus laid to waste half the Decepticons before taking on Megs himself. AS Rhinox would say, 'Not too shabby'

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:19:47 PM
IP: 134.71.36.125

DPH:
Hey, it's not MY site. I just thought it was an interesting story.
<<Content is king and compatibility is queen. Speed is prince and friendly navigation is princess. Dead links are unsupervised children running around. >> I agree completely. I was a 'net user before the World Wide Web hit the big time and I hate a lot of the changes that have been made to it. Have you heard Microsoft's plans for Windows 2000 Services? They want to divide the Internet into two groups: the open standards cross platform based model we use now and the Microsoft Way(tm). Only Microsoft clients will be able to connect to Microsoft servers. Everyone else will be left behind. Like GM once did, Microsoft continues to arrogantly insist that what's best for MS is best for the world. Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant.
----
Warpmind:
I DID see that movie, but it was a while ago. And yes, it's pretty funny.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 11:52:48 AM
IP: ppp-03.rb5.exit109.com

Kyryn: pardon my ignorance, but what does a _cheong-sam_ look like?

Rodlox
Friday, June 9, 2000 11:04:36 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Not much to say today.

**COMPUTER COMMERCIAL RELATED**
I am sick of those ads. If you do not opt to choose your internet serice provider when you buy a personal computer, it costs you MORE money. Talk about a consumer alert. Who says when I buy a new computer that I do not already have an existing internet service provider? Every time I look at buying a new personal computer in the ads, the price includes some internet service provider. So I have to raise the price up. That leads to me to have to only look online because the online prices do not include an internet service provider.

I thought I one of the oldest personal computers in the room. I guess I was wrong.
**END COMPUTER COMMERCIAL RELATED**

**WEBSITE COMMENTS**
Daniel Johnson - checked the web site. I have one problem, though, every time I visit any page in that system I get asked for 2 cookies. If my internet service provider does that, I am moving to someone who does not.

I once visited a spot where I was slowed down by . . . the advertising for the website.

I come from a different school when it comes to websites. (Think medivel) Content is king and compatibility is queen. Speed is prince and friendly navigation is princess. Dead links are unsupervised children running around.
**end website topic**

**ANIME TOPIC**
What prompted that last rant?
**END ANIME TOPIC**

Rodlox, please check your email and respond.

**BFTS RP continues**
*ITAG HQ, secret meeting continues*
"A lone telepath is not sufficient. The agent should also be telekinetic."

"But aren't mind probes undetectable when the person is asleep?"

"Sometimes the person will wake up in the middle of the night. The telepath will have to be quick."

"Perhaps two telepaths with telekinetic abilities are a better choice."

"You have a pair in mind?"

"Exactly."

"But we do not know the names of any members of the Speed Stars."

"Our agents will probe policemen in order to find out who is suspected and work our way up from there."

"How often will our agents report in?"

"Every 8 hours, considering the riskiness of the situation. Plastique was identified by them and she never encountered them before."

"Do we need to send someone to Plastique's house to guard SuperSpeed?"

"DPH's problems seemed to be concentrating on him and his group. All the same, we should have some teleview her from time to time."

"Agreed."

"Should we upgrade our security on our computer systems?"

"We have to be carefull to avoid looking too supscious."

"At the same time, we have inadequate security. Disconnect the computers containing names and powers list from our those running the website."

"Agreed." said everyone in the room.

"Yes, but what about agents who need to do a lookup on our database?"

"They will have to call ITAG HQ on a secure line for information."

"That is satisfactory. Meeting adjourned."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 10:42:08 AM
IP: max1-54.cwy.cei.net

***Kyryn peers in***

Spike> Red Kimono? Nope, that wasn't me. I wore a gold and white cheong-sam dress on Saturday night for a while, but only one person got my picture that I know of and it wasn't Skippy (no offense, Skippy). Other than that, I spent most of the con in t-shirts and jeans.

***Kyryn takes off***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 9, 2000 10:33:29 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Aaron & any other A-Kon folks> If you are interested in putting your photos on my site, just e-mail me the pics. To date, I haven't even used up a meg of space on the site, so theres plenty of room...
Skippy The Klingon - [shakedwn@ultravision.net]
Friday, June 9, 2000 10:12:52 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-40.ultravision.net

*zooms in*

Hey quick post today!

Cherry Blossom> Aw, I hope you get better soon hun! We'll miss ya!

Winterwolf> lol Yeah I noticed, I hope I have time to read it later this afternoon! :)

Well! I have an RP to write and I'm so behind!!! Bye!! *HUGZ all and zooms out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 09:01:07 AM
IP: 136.145.70.210

Greg: Megatron as a symbol of heroism? if anybody on the Decepticon side, it's one of the little guys who transformed {whoa, nearly typed _morphed_} from the tapes Shockwave(?) produced.

<<1832 letters. The short version is tryptophan synthetase A, but the full
version begins "methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosylglutamylserylleucylphenyl ..." >> sounds familiar....it's Organic Chemistry, right? but which gas does it require? Oxygen/Hydrogen/Methane/Other/None...???

<<the kind that swims up and lodges its spiky fins inside the victim's...>>: Watch Medicine Man ('92, Sean Connery version) recently?>> sadly no....it's up there on my list of WANT TO SEE movies - right with _Adventures Of A Gnome Named Gnorm_.

"malignant." "how do you know?" "simple: i gave it to him."

....and the "Bronx" and "Brooklyn" lines were comic. can you imagine part of Manhattan Clan meeting them?
Connery: "hey Bronx!"
Bronx: "hrm?"
{momentarily forgot her name}: "what?"

<<rrabbitts - RUN>>: I could take him single-handed.>> i'm sure the Black Knight thought the same thing.

<<'d make a feint to the north-east.>> now envisioning Rory saying "perhaps if we ran away some more...?"

Rodlox
Friday, June 9, 2000 08:44:16 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Robby> Um, the Optimus character from the Japanese "Beast Wars" series is NOT Optimus Prime. His name is Lio Convoy (every Optimus like character is named Convoy), and is a part of something called the Convoy Council (all the members look like Optimus Prime), which is their take on the Maximal Elders... I think it's a little ridiculous personally. Obnoxious Prime is long dead and I'm glad for it. ::Fondly remembers when the great heroic Megatron brutally killed Prime in the Movie:: The original Megatron/Galvatron will always be a symbol of true heroism to me.

Christine> New story?! Can't wait to read.

Did anyone see the MTV movie awards last night? I for one was disappointed that Mike Meyers won the award for best villain... I voted for the Headless Horseman (would've voted for Maul, but the Horseman had more characterization and kicked more @$$).

I was recently thinking about Xanatos as he is presented in fanfic post "Hunter's Moon". One trend I've noticed is that almost everyone has made him into a "good guy", what I've been thinking about is why? We know he is still a machiavelien schemer, and that he has not given up his shady deals or quest for immortality, only that he has come to a truce with Goliath and his clan, which even Greg Weisman said would be shaky, but I don't see that anywhere in fanfic (I'm not trying to criticize anyone, btw). What I think this has to do with is the changing of perceptions, when he was an enemy of Goliath's clan he was a "bad guy", so anything he did was "wrong". Now that he has come to a truce and ended his feud with Goliath people look at him as a "good guy" and he's doing no wrong anymore, which is not true... he hasn't changed much... he's just smart enough to know how to get Goliath and co to look the other way. He is thankful for what they did in "The Gathering" so he's ending his feud with them. That's not the same as reforming. Maybe I'll write a fanfic that explores this.

Well today is my last day of classes. Finals and Regents are next week. Wish me luck.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 08:28:12 AM
IP: 166.109.44.94

*Warpmind enters, playing the "Gummi Bears" theme on his ocarina, then points an accusing finger at Winterwolf.* That's the one to blame! Hit him! Hit him! *Regains composure.* Um, never mind.

DPH: Why QBASIC? I'll give you a few reasons: 1: 1X210Mb HD, 1X425Mb HD. 2: 486SX33Mhz. 3: 16Mb RAM. 4: MS-DOS 6.X (I've mixed in files from anything from 5.0 to 6.22, so...) does NOT run any version of VB that I am familiar with. 4: I don't do graphics. You don't WANT to see my graphical abilities... :|

Archwolf: Are you seriously implying that the TIE Defender is an inferior craft? Dude, it's the MOST powerful TIE craft that's ever been built! It can outgun, outspeed and generally HUMILIATE any Rebel craft, INCLUDING the A-Wings! True, the craft never gained much use, with that sad event at Endor, but still! With its 4 Laser cannons, 2 Ion cannons, 2 projectile launchers, Hyperdrive, Novaldex shield generators, and, if cannons and shields are stripped, a top speed of, what, 224 MGLT? And you consider it inadequate? Begone, lest I challenge you to a duel! Grrr... I assure you, Admiral Zaarin himself can vouch for my capabilities in the TIE/D! No, wait, he can't... because I killed him. Hmmm... Damn, anyone who could vouch for my skills are dead. Pity...

Shadowrider: Perzacktly, my friend. Stun'em, then gun'em. That's the way ta do it. :) Uh, and unless that was a direct comment about the Rebel production capacities, might I inquire about what your grandma meant? :|

Daniel Johnson: That Hot Shots 2 quote is at the beginning, when Topper Harley is in the buddhist temple. Go see it, man! :)

Matthew: Um, the X-Wing may be the best REBEL allrounder, but the TIE/D is definitely the more powerful craft... see the partial specs in my comment to Archwolf.

Christine: Oh, goodiegoodiegoodie. :)

Archwolf again: You CONTINUE your insults against the TIE/D? Sheesh! The TIE craft actually have the ability to turn on a dime, since ion streams can be sent off in any direction. Try doing that with one of those un-environmentalistic, fossil-fuel burning X-Wings. THe TIE/D is nothing short of a masterpiece! Sorry if I'm getting zealous here, but I REALLY love the Defender! Oh, and I've already replied to that e-mail.

Gside: Glad to see I've got faithful readers. :) As for the big guns, well, I'm kinda partial to hand-to-hand agains inferior fighters. (Both of them.) ;) As for the parasite, no, I've actually missed that movie. :( But, I do read a lot of popular scientific material. :)

Well, that's about it right now. Gotta run. Ciao. (Oh, and this is likely to be my last post before I go to Lanzarote. Nyah nyah.) :)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, June 9, 2000 07:20:37 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**SPOILERS**New TD: Nice work, but will we ever find out what Celer did with his life? New age guru?

Warpmind> Caught your lates fic, and am waiting for the full apocalypse to break out, and am convinced you will work in a few resurrestions before/when this is over (other than the one we already know will happen).**/SPOILERS**

Gunjack> Once agin, I apologize for MM, it was fin on my laptop, and probably got messed up in the transfer.
<<could you give me the addresses for some sites where I could find emulators of the FF series>>: The emulators you probably want are Nesticle for 1-3 and ZSNES for 4/2, 5, and 6/3. You can find both at zophar.net and darkmazda.com The roms can be found at http://oneminuteleft.com/ and http://vimm.net/

Janine> <<Why turn the modem volume off. It has never been loud. Besides I don't know how>>: There is a setting in the modem drivers that allows you to put in extra commands as text. I believe the one you would want would be "atm0". I'm not sure where to check, because we have no operating standard modems here.

Warpmind> <<Celibacy is not hereditary, you say? I take it you never saw "Hot Shots 2" then>>: One word: mitosis.
<<Long words? "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" comes to mind>>: Do you want me to break you the big guns? Even though Wilek did beat you by eleven letters, I can surpass his by 1832 letters. The short version is tryptophan synthetase A, but the full version begins "methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosylglutamylserylleucylphenyl ..."
<<the kind that swims up and lodges its spiky fins inside the victim's...>>: Watch Medicine Man ('92, Sean Connery version) recently?

DPH> <<What causes a kitten have some areas black and other areas white as opposed to being one percent gray?>>: I can give you one reason, for siamese cats, they have heat sensitive enzymes. I had another explanation ready (x-inactivation), but it didn't explain why the colors don't blend (and only really worked for tortise-shell/mottled female cats).
<<the best way to "salvage" Beast Machines would to give transformers some reason to have beast modes>>: The Matrix said so.

Aaron> <>: Naturally, but I was just reminding you the dangers of applying such a statement to other genres.

Rodlox> <<just remember: if they challenge you to dueling
rrabbitts - RUN>>: I could take him single-handed. I'd make a feint to the north-east...

Kitainia> <<But they're naming Cyclops Henry instead of Scott>>: Shades of David Banner!

Jenna> Welcome. Resistance is futile. Share and enjoy. Personally, I stay around zophar, darkmazda, plasticman.org, rpgd.emulationworld.com, oml, and romfinder.com

Rodlox, CSH> And don't forget that he later lead a version of BoEM, and acquired the power to secrete various venoms.

Cherry Blossom> Many wishes for your health.

SOROW> <<Thank you for that enigmatic contemplation>>: Anything I can do to help.

Daniel Johnson> theory: Nice, makes sense. Can't really thik of any corellaries right now, though.

SRS JR.> <<And it was recovered and restored in all of its glory, and there was MUCH rejoicing...>>: Yay. Yay.

Archwolf> ...Leaping from tree to tree as they float down the mighty rivers of British Columbia!

Gunjack> Condolences for Sheba.
<>: But, would you take part in an agrarian revolt? I'm not talking about nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, I'm not talking about any of that. I'm talking an agrairian revolt. Pitchfolks, a spade. Go after those Pittsburgh people. (ref: Moxy Fr�vous, Intra-Pennsylvania rivalry, as Canadians who really have nothing to do with this)
<<By the way, what's Chronocross?>>: Sequel to Chrono Trigger, a very good game. Cross is one of the three anxiously awaited sequels this summer (others are from SD and FF series).

Winterwolf> <<For taking the time to double check>>: I must admit that I didn't check. It's just that six is so close to five, that I thought you might need to be reduced by two.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, June 9, 2000 04:44:48 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

**Winterwolf enters the CR to say Hello and post some replies.**

Hi. I seem to have slipped back into late night mode. Oh well. To keep from going to bed ridiculously late I'm skipping the RP tonight. Let's just say they're sleeping right now and tomorrow they'll wake up.

SOROW> Sent you an email reply. **hugs** That's to keep you feeling better. :) Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Today was a busy day and unfortunately tomorrow looks like a killer too.

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.> A little late but... <computer stuff> **paws crossed for you.** <Florida friends> I say they are due for some good news/times. I hope things get better for them. <Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman> I've read some of their work myself. Loved it. Thanks for the info tidbit.

Gail> <Asrial> I think she still has a chance to get a good mate. There was one male that was looking at her in one of the episodes. Maybe he's just a little shy but I think she even if he doesn't there are other males that would choose Asrial as a mate. It would definitely make an interesting story.

Janine> <modem> It's a small detail but depending where you are it makes a distinctive noise that can let others know when you're using it. <2 - 3 AM> Maybe I'll catch you online tonight. :)

Night Walker> Good to see you make it back. Too bad it couldn't be a happier occasion. <dog> Oh that poor puppy! I think Shakespeare (the puppy) had better plan a tragic comedy for your brother.

Caliope> <missing anime discussion> It looks like your in luck. Lexy reposed the original post on the anime discussion. Let the discussion continue. ^_^

Gside> <Four, sir!> Well that fits neatly into my range of 3 - 6 :) For taking the time to double check I award you these 1000 emperor stringets! They are water absorbent. Super absorbent emperor stringets! Away with floods. Away with the dull drudgery of workaday tidal waves...

Brooklyn> <theme song word for word> It was an easy and fun song. There are actually a ton of things I have stored away in my head to use when appropriate. One thing that I find amusing is catch 10 - 30 seconds of a show rerun I watched and explain in detail what happens in that episode to someone else who only vaguely remembers it. This is something I do with my Dad often enough. The best is when I only listen to the dialog for those 10 - 30 seconds and still recall what happened. Try being a RPG GM or DM and remembering all the little details becomes really important. ^_^ <pics you're working on> The pictures I've been working on lately have been originals of mine. I'm not thrilled with them but they slowly get better as I continue plugging away. <Broadway's death> Sure. I'll get that one to you next week. <email> I'll send you back some email either tomorrow or Saturday.

Cherry Blossom> <carpal tunnel> We'll have to chip in and get you some voice recognition software and headphones so you can post without any discomfort.

TD> Great episode just a little short. Everyone else mentioned the special cool parts already so I'll leave it at that.

Shadowrider> Happy Birthday! Oh wait I have to wait one more day. :)

Good night!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, June 9, 2000 02:52:12 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.72.20.newyork2.level3.net

in here: RP {10}, and praise {with commentary} about _LYLTH_.

**The TEN Saga RP**

Anthony sat on the ground, waiting for them all to finish talking, as he considered what they'd said. _Demons attacking, end of the world.

_I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt before I just start doubting their sanity...after all, there was enough of a panic when Emperor Varius was killed....I think i'm dating myself,_ he thought with a chuckle, earning a strange look from a person nearby, approaching. "Yes?" Anthony asks.

**END [my part of the] RP**

**WARNING -- SPOILERS AHEAD FOR _LYLTH_**

**YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED**

**STILL HERE? OKAY......BUT DO *NOT* BLAME ME!**

you know what those raptor-gargs remind me of? part Bonobos, and part Utahraptors.

Seriously, Christine, have you ever read anything by Robert Bakker?

<<Comprehension pranced teasingly at the edges of her consciousness, but the more she pursued that tip-of-the-tongue sensation, the more elusive it seemed.>>
wow...Demona with a _Gheer_ reaction.

{for more info on _gheer_, check out the category _Tymbrimi_ in teh Library: http://personal.vineyard.net/robinson/library/welcome.htm }. Brin�s a good author.....much like Christine.

you know what came to mind when the critters faced Demona? the desendants of badgers in the book _After Man: a zoology of the future_ by Dougal Dixon.

**END SPOILERS**

**YES, YOU CAN LOOK NOW.........BUT WE KNOW YOU ALREADY WERE..........WEREN�T YOU??**

**HELLO??**

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail]
Friday, June 9, 2000 02:32:45 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Gah, what a week... Looks like no good farewell post for me, as Time kinda snuck up on me like a thief and is now in the process of garroting my remaining free time... :P

Gotta spend all tomorrow hardlining math in preperation for the ACT on Saturday, and packing for six continuos weeks of travel, camps, and semi-college. That doesn't leave much time for dilly-dally... :P

*Valentine looks around, and then addresses the CR*
One other thing... A moment of silence for my first dog, Sheba... We had to leave her to a neihbor when we moved two years ago, but we stayed in touch... She was the sweetest, happiest, most peaceful and most loving dog I've ever seen or heard of, and now I'm trying to think of how I'm ever going to find another dog like her... :(
*Wipes away a tear, then smiles*
At least she's our memory...:)

Anyway, onto the replies...

Nightwalker - *Valentine does a double-take* HEY! I know you! How's it goin' 'mano? I haven't seen you posting in half a year!
*Glances around the room* Dang, but there's a bunch of new faces... Howdy to all of you! :D Try to avoid the radiation hazards...

Daniel Johnson><<Next up on our journey is the humble mitochondrion.>> Okay, I just spent the last couple days immersed in Parasite Eve. And now a varient of the little buggers are responsible for the Fey? *Starts looking worried* So mitochondria are the root of all evil? <<Oh, does anyone here hate spam? I thought so. :) Here's an interesting story of what happens when a spammer picks the WRONG victim. Click my name. 'Nite.>> Cool site, but that hacker was on a serious power trip when he(?) wrote that...

Lexy><> A pity you couldn't sit them down in front of Akira for an hour or two... That'd probably end the arguement.
Along with the permanent mental scarring if they weren't ready for it... :D
*Reads the rest of the post, and brushes a few stray cinders off his jacket* Yeesh, you really get into this stuff, eh? :)
I agree completely about this animation/kids crap. Fortunatelly, I've got Titan AE and Mononoke to look forward to this summer, so you never know...
By the way, has anyone heard more about the alleged Anime Matrix prequel?

Gside - Got the new MM, and it plays sweet... Thanks a heap, 'Mano! And to all who may be wondering, I do *NOT* live in a bucolic, agrarian compound... ;)

Shadowrider - thanks for the info on the post... I'll try to read it, but response time is up for me... :) Thanks anyway, though! <<The funny thing with Ion Cannons is that if you manage to take down the shields of the ship you are attacking, then just a four hits are enough to disable even a Star Destroyer...>> Whoa! *does keanu Reaves impression* I'd love to see the capacitors for *those* babies!

Gasper><<Sounds like a TON of Square goodness! I can't wait till Chrono Cross...Buying a PSX, if I ever get my Paycheck....>> You forgot the "poorly translated" part. I have no clue who ran the translation for Front Mission 3, but they had some serious issues...
The mecha in the game were officially called "Walking Panzers", but you only heard that name once or twice. The rest of the time, the name was abbriviated down to "Wanzer", which didn't do much for their dignity... Witness the main character's epic battlecry: "If they mean business, they'll get the business end of my Wanzer!"

Now what the heck are you supposed to think of that? ;)

By the way, what's Chronocross?

Stephen - Glad to hear about the computer being back online!

*Glances at watch*
'kay, I'm tired and it's time for beddy-bye...

So long! Catch y'all in a month or two!
Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 02:14:24 AM
IP: nas-89-53.dallas.navipath.net

**Mecord walks in with a pillow under one arm.**

What is with these Transformers in my dreams? I don�t even watch it that much, do I? Well, it was a minor but significant role. It was a long dream, too long to relate in detail, but here�s a sum up. Me and a group of friends defeat a group of vampires. Years later lead vampire shows up again and catches us off guard. He tells us he is going to overrun the city come the next nightfall. He lets us escape. We meet up with Anastasia Renard (sp?) and ask her to assemble an army of fey and their allies to meet this army of undead. We retreat to a house that is being watched continuously. We lead guard astray and Black Arachnia steals his car to look for enemy base. Car is followed and fired upon by an atmospheric mini-Star Destroyer. Spider ditches the car into ocean and discovers underwater base of enemy. Base has a big ICBM. Spider fires her weapon and ignites solid rocket fuel in ICBM (even though that�s impossible, but hey, it�s a dream) ICBM launches and strikes Star Destroyer (No nuclear detonation, I was disappointed). Star Destroyer and base start blasting each other into tiny bits. Evil alarm clock goes off, I sleep through alarm clock for as long as possible. The greater evil of reality takes over and wakes me up. I try to go back to sleep, but second alarm goes off. I seriously contemplate a destructive impulse. ;)

Winterwolf>> You know the possibility that I was Face in the dream had occurred to me, but I have no way to verify it because I never saw myself and I can�t remember if I ever saw Face or not.

Archwolf>> The Fic isn�t going well at the moment. I hit a bit of a stall. The story is taking longer than would I like to get to the climax and while I�m trying to move the story along I feel I�m missing some of the drama that is important for the characters. Now I have a job that will fill the time I usually use to write, not to mention the rest of the day. I�m going to dive in hard this weekend and see how far I get.

Gummi Bears>> Still one of my favorites. I never realized how many parallels there were between this and Gargoyles. Six Gummie Bears, six Gargoyles. Come to think of it, there was an episode of Gummie Bears with a gargoyle that would come to life every full moon or something like that.

Robby and SJ>> Anyone who knows better, feel free to correct me, I�m just going off what I remember from Psychology class a few years back. I think that Technically, Lady Unn has Multiple Personality Syndrome which is as it sounds, two or more personalities in one person. Schizophrenia is actually more along the lines of hearing voices. These voices often influence a person�s emotions, thoughts, and actions from one end of the spectrum to the other. This could be seen as a personality change but is much more like a drastic and exaggerated mood swing, where Multiple Personalities are like several different people trying to use the same body� like Coldstone, only with one soul (well, this may be debatable, but clinically speaking). So while the two disorders are very similar, they are different. I once knew a Schizo that blew up in my face and threatened to kill me. Later he said God told him to say that. He also writes poems as dictated by Shakespeare and songs dictated by Elvis. Not that all this matters much to your discussion, but I just thought I�d mention it.

Stephen>> Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman?!!!!!!!!!! I am soooooo jealous! The book that got me started on reading and eventually writing and well, pretty much the whole plot line of my life was Dragons of Autumn Twilight. I was in third grade at the time and it took me three months to read it. They are my favorite team of writers, up there with my favorite solo author Anne McCaffrey.

Shadowrider>> Your birthday is the tenth? Cool, Happy B-day!

Sorow>> A good friend likes to quote a Muppet movie when she sees I�m depressed, �It could be worse, you could be stuck in the audience!�
Hope thing go better for you.

Cherry Blossom>> Hi! :) Carpal tunnel? Ack! :( That�s no good. What are you having done about that?

Welcome all New people, and Welcome back to those who�ve returned. Sorry I have to use a catch all statement because I haven�t been keeping very good track this week.

Kit and Doug>> $I don�t mind, but I hope you don�t mind I sent some advance troops.$ BTW Kit, is that color you used pale green? That's the color I use. I don't mind, but if you were using it to clarify who's RP is who's... well I RP as well and I don't want to make things any more confusing for anyone.

*****NOW FOR AND RP*****
�You don�t remember anything? Our escape from Hell, ShadowWolf, Thailog, anything?� Demanded Senthet.
Mec shook his head, �I have had lapses like this before Senthet.�
�I know and they were just as anoying.�
Warpmind looked to Winterblade, �He didn�t say anything about his meeting did he?�
�No, he said noth�� Winterblade smelled the air.
�What is it?�
�A faint, but familiar and dangerous smell.�
Senthet nodded, �Demons, I�d wager. We used their portal connection to return to Earth. There�re are probably demons about. What building is this anyway?�
Warpmind walked around the corner, �Why it�s the Time-Warner building.�
[Mecord?] the voice stirred in the Elf�s head.
[Bardic?] he thought back.
[Yes, I will join you soon. The twins are in trouble, I have sent help, but we have other pressing issues.]
[Such as?]
[I sent Lloky to investigate an underground city we knew nothing about, but she has not contacted me since. I am sorely in need of a magical recharge as are the other twenty or so dragons with me. Oh, and I felt an immense power land nearby. I sent a young one to investigate.]
[And?]
[Remember the Ten I told you about? Well, it seems number 4 just showed up and is waging battle.]
[That is bad, if 4 is defeated the others will be drawn here. But, we may have to deal with them later, we are on the verge of an important discovery here. By the way I had another memory lapse.]
[Intriguing, you�ll have to tell me more about it later.]
*****End RP*****

Mecord
Friday, June 9, 2000 01:56:25 AM
IP: usr51.mtwest.net

*Archwolf's XWing again enters the CR, this time with many more TIE silhouettes painted along the nose.*

Kit>Thanks for the support. Except for the knee, things seem to be improving. Even the situation with the mormon woman (it is improving by virtue of my not dealing with her anymore). $um..i kinda RP'd myself into a corner here....I have Shadow working for Thailog, but never asked if i could...hope I didn't step on toes there, but if I did, I think I can straiten things out. If it isn't a problem though, I would like to see ShadowWolf be added to Thailog's list of minions.$

Christine>Just finished Lylth. In short, it rocked. Ok, bad pun. I did enjoy Lylth's explanation of Gargoyle Origins. Can't wait for the next one.

Xwing Vs. TIE>How can people say that the TIE is a better series than the X-Wing? The T-65B (The newer ones seen around the time of Vector Prime) are faster and stronger than ever. Even the stock X-Wing could out fight at least 2:1 odds against Brights and Squints (TIE Advanced and Interceptor respectivly). The TIE Defender's hull is the same hull that the EyeBall and Squint use. how they fit a hyper drive, suped up engines, enhaced shield gennies, a pair of Ion Cannona AND a 12 missile magazine is beyond me. As for her speed and maneuverability, All speed is good for is quick hit and fade attacks. Trying to dogfight at the speeds those things are capable of is deadly. If your opponent gets inside your turn radius, you are one big target. He can sit still, track you, and light you up before you can make a full turn. And lets not even get into the situation that arises for ties when atmospheric interface is involved. And it still only takes one lucky torp to do in ANY ship in the TIE series, even the vaunted Defender.

Aaron><<X-wing take the Tie D?!? You have insulted the skill of all Imp pilots everywhere>>Skill of Imp pilots..um can we say oxymoron ;)<<after all the X-targets I've smoked in Tie Bombers, you get an attitude>>I konw the feeling...after all the Frgs and ImpStars I vaped with an x wing with no shields (to prove i could), you get the same attitude.
Ok. nuff of that.

ShadowRider>I agree with you, this did seem to be the buildup. *crosses fingers* Oh, finished your fic. I really enjoyed reading it. I can't wait for the others you have promised!

Warpmind>I need your input on something. Check yer email.

At work>I was standing around at work today when what I thought was a funny scene hit me:
Dr. Sevarius (sp?) was standing at a lab table trying to work up an counter to his mutation formula, when he threw down his test data. "I'm bored...I don't want to do this any more." An angry rumble can be heard from the shadows, where Goliath is watching from. Sevarius turn toward the lavender gargoyle and says "I never wanted to be a genetesit, you know. No, I always wanted to be.." He tears off his lab clothing, revealing a red and black flannel shirt, heavy black jeans, and black suspenders, then places a fur cap on his head..."..A LUMBERJACK!!" Ok...Python fans, you know how it ends.
Well, it was funny at midnight after i had spent all night training a new guy at work.

shade and sweet water
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 01:50:24 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-15.mcmurray.nb.net

DPH- The original Optimus Prime would not have been against Beast Modes. This is a cannon fact, since in Japan, Transformers kept going. They eventually got to their own version of Beast Wars, where the ORIGINAL Optimus Prime, took the form of a lion. So, canon proof that Optimus would not object to a beast mode.

As far as cat genetics... Its wierd, since fur color is quite generally a trait that can be inherited from any parent, and it often comes completley from that parent. Otherwise, the furs mix like with calicos. (and cats often mate with more than one male...) At Antarctic Press, they have a small little black and white cat named Cog who's daughter Sprocket is a MUCH larger siamese that looks nothing like her mother... Supposedly none of Cog's other kittens look anything like her either...

Daniel Johnson- We don't KNOW Asrial is going to die in the Wyvern massacre. She could end up finding a mate in someone from another clan and then go off with them or something...

**Moment of silence for Jeff MacNelly**

Phoenix Gate translating for Celer- Actually, if you recall, the effects stopped working for Sata after a while, so she had to learn to speak English. (Brooklyn learned Japanese at the same time...) There's no reason to think Celer won't lapse into his native tounge as soon as Brooklyn danced out.

Kitainia- "Revolta"? Oh come ON. So Travolta made one bad movie. It was a book he loved when he was younger and it was something he had always wanted to work on. And naturally, since he was heavily involved with the creation proccess of Battleship Earth, he's proud of it regardless of quality. But JSUT for that you're shunning the man? WHat about everything good he's done? Welcome back Kotter (WHich helped to inspire Vinnie Gregarino!), Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction, Michael, Phenomonemom,Face Off, a lotta other good movies etc. etc. etc. He was in one bad movie and yes he could have done better, and for that you shun him?

Granted, the same could be said about chastizing Lucas for making Episode 1... The difference of course being Lucas was the writer/director/everything on Episode 1 and was totally responsible for every element of it save the music, and he's been bragging about having the master plan for that movie for 20 years and super hyped it and only cashed in on the originals... Travolta only acted in and directed his horror, he didn't spend 20 years saying "I want to do this movie right now but I'm waiting for the technology to catch up, so just you wait, its gonna be good, honest...

Rodlox- Toad is a real X-Men character, and he has for many years always been considered one of its lamest characters. The fact that they hired Ray Park (aka Darth Maul) to play the part of Toad, who shouldn't even BE in the movie, worries me. (That, coupled with the horrible costume designs and horrible wig Storm is wearing...)

**RP HERE**

The light fades from Dragon Warrior's most powerful attack, and as dust and debries settle, the warriors involved in the fight look on.
"Is it over, was that it?" Gasper asked.
[Hmm. Seemed a bit easy after all of that build up...]
From behind the warriors came a sigh. They turned to see 4 in her white armor, unscratched and undirtied. "You know, for you creatures to be any sort of challenge, you have to be able to HIT me."
[...] came Dragon Warrior's reply.
"If that attack of 15,000 is the best you can do, I suggest you take a break and wait for any other warriors this planet has to arrive. The schedualed meeting is for Monday, so I might let you live until then. Or, I can send you straight to hell without even bothering to kill you with my Helldragger attack. Up to you really."

**END RP**
Robby
Friday, June 9, 2000 01:47:43 AM
IP: spider-to028.proxy.aol.com

"Lylth" is now posted! Demona encounters an ancient power, and learns the origins of the gargoyle race.
Also new on my site -- eleven, count them, ELEVEN new pics in the Gallery!
Find it all with a click, or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Warpmind > when next I speak with TimeFare Books, I'll ask them about advance orders and let you know.

Stephen > that's terrible about your computer! Interesting news about Weis and Hickman (I met Margaret Weis at RadCon in '99), but beware of TSR/WotC! Like Boeing, Starbucks, and Microsoft, they can be taken as yet another example of local evil empires ; ) I'd be real careful before posting anything based on their stuff, lest all of a sudden they announce they own it. Of course, this is all pure paranoid conjecture on my part and should be taken with a grain of sale about *yea* big ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:43:11 AM
IP: 14-108.009.popsite.net

<<the big fellow walks in solemnly, holding before him a rather large, biblical looking book...he turns to the appropriate page, and begins to read:>>

"And lo, the Author in all penitence went before the Silicon deity, offering platitudes and lauds so that the lost would be recovered... and Lo, the Deity spake saying, "Zipdrive Assigned". And there was rejoicing, as the Author offered up the olde Zipdisk, to be accessed for all to behold, in mercy of the Deity. And there was an amber glow from the Zipdrive, and Lo, the data that had been thought lost, was found. And it was recovered and restored in all of its glory, and there was MUCH rejoicing..." Scribe, the Book of Technos.

[GRINS] Good news! My Zipdrive is installed and working! Now I just have to get my Floppy drive and the sound card working as well, and all will be well... :)

Thanks for all the well wishes - especially for my friend, Jason and his missus Sheryl - everyone. They are much appreciated.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:38:11 AM
IP: m12.ieway.com

SOROW:
Glad to be of help. :) See you soon.
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I just realized something today. I always knew that the squirrels were plotting against me, but now I know that they're not alone. They have help. Coconspirators.
The moths.
I should have realized it before. I'm getting sloppy. They're always out there. Flitting about.
Watching.
But now I'll be prepared.
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OK, spawned by the recent discussion on fay physiology, here is Daniel's Wacky Fay Evolution Theory (tm). Warning: this theory is the result of a confluence of synapses firing randomly and I cannot, therefore, be held accountable for the consequences.

First, let's assume that what we call "magic" is really a form of energy that is generated by the Earth itself. Like the magnetic field. Some natural phenomenon which we still don't really understand. Let's further assume that, also like the magnetic field, this energy field is more concentrated in some areas than others.

Now, a couple of billion years ago, one life form ruled the Earth: bacteria. A mind boggling number of different bacteria adapted to life in virtually every environment on the planet. They have even been found living miles underground. Some of the oldest and strangest are chemosynthetic: they feed off of various chemical compounds. But, then there are those that are photosynthetic. That's pretty amazing when you think about it: they turn electromagnetic radiation into usable biological energy. Is it such a giant leap to think that some bacteria developed a means to use this "magical" energy field instead of sunlight? It seems about as likely to me. But then I'm deranged.

Next up on our journey is the humble mitochondrion. The theory is that mitochondria were originally bacteria that became trapped inside other, larger cells. This turned out to be fortunate, because mitochondria do one thing very well: produce energy. Virtually every form of life above the level of bacteria has cells that include mitochondria since they're such amazingly useful things to have. It's a revolutionary symbiotic relationship that made possible complex multicellular organisms.

What if some life form developed which had mitochondrion-like components of its cells that were descended from the hypothetical "magic" feeding bacteria? And how would they get there? Maybe all complex life DOES incorporate these organisms; it could potentially be even more useful than mitochondria to be able to draw energy directly from the Earth. But, just because our cells might be able to draw small amounts of energy from this "magic" field, it doesn't mean that we can consciously use that energy. However, perhaps because of some mutation or other reason, a few individuals CAN use it to a degree; they would be the sorcerers and mages. But what about the fay?

I think it's safe to assume that the "magic" field is most concentrated on Avalon. So it would also be safe to assume that the "magic" feeding organisms would be most prevalent there as well. OK, I'm going to get really wacky here. I get the distinct feeling from the show that Avalon is somehow conscious. Even intelligent. "Avalon sends you where you need to be." "Avalon, aid your children!" There are several such instances which would seem to show that Avalon is "alive." But WHAT is alive? The rock? The trees? How can those things be aware?

The organisms. Just as the individual neurons in our brains have no self-awareness, so do these organisms. But, when you connect all those neurons together to make a brain, you get a conscious mind. Perhaps, after hundreds of millions of years, the unusually high concentration of these organisms on Avalon, combined with the unknown properties of the "magic" field, caused complex interconnections to develop among the organisms. This, in turn, led to an emergent intelligence. And as this intelligence grew, it learned to manipulate the "magic" fields around it.

Now, let's say that at some point humans arrived on Avalon. When the intelligence noticed this, it might have been interested. After all, it had never encountered anything like humans before. Maybe it wanted to communicate with them but couldn't directly. So it started tinkering with their DNA to better tap into the organisms which already existed within their cell structure. This might have taken a long time, but eventually the intelligence would have established some basic contact. But, by now, the people had changed to the point that they could no longer be called human. Also, as a by-product of the tinkering, they were able to control the energy fields to an unprecedented degree: the fay were born.

This would also explain why the psychological development of the fay is no better than ours. It's incredible that they haven't wiped themselves (and us) out by now. Of course, the intelligence might have something to do with that. It also explains why fay and humans can interbreed; they used to BE humans and are still closely related genetically.

O. M. G. That was LONG. I'd better quit now before everyone chops me up into tiny bits to feed the squirrels. As extra credit, try using this theory to explain other mythological beings such as gargoyles. And no, I don't think that the intelligence created gargoyles, but there are other possibilities.
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Oh, does anyone here hate spam? I thought so. :) Here's an interesting story of what happens when a spammer picks the WRONG victim. Click my name. 'Nite.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, June 9, 2000 12:13:43 AM
IP: ppp-25.rb5.exit109.com

Hmm A discussion on Toons Today! YEA And I even used alliteration *beams with pride*

IMO: Cartoons, and animation in this country in general, (I cant speak for other nations) just makes me sicker each year. Yes, its true, we have hits here and there. But almost all of the chart breakers this year were imported for gosh sakes! NOT that I have a problem with that one (LONG LIVE ANIME!!!) I just thought that should be pointed out yet AGAIN. It seems like networks are just throwing together shows with absolute non-plots and empty characters. Just so long as it lasts the better part of a half 'en hour and frames some niffty toy commercials its worth throwing at us. And if you look at some shows that offered us a breath of fresh air, such as Gargoyles, they were soon dumped because ppl didn't know what to make of it. Kids didn't quite grasp it..but a lot of adults wouldn't give it a second glance because it was 'animated'. It was frozen between two worlds..*sighs*. Honestly I am torn. I would like to say that animation is just not this countries forte..er..(4-tay? *G*) But I know that that is _somewhat_ unreasonable. And besides, absolutes get me in trouble in here;). I guess what I am saying is America has one major problem that goes hand in hand with almost all our crappy cartoon issues. America has its ideas about animation. Simple really. If its animated, its for kids. Period. That is of course horribly false. But it is what is taught to parents and kids time and time again. Come on. Tell me that if you didn't ask a group of ppl at the mall what a cartoon is the frist, and perhaps only thing out of their mouths would be, "Its animated." I don't know how many times I was picked on in school because I was the girl who watched 'cartoons'. I didn't care. I loved um. When Gargoyles came out, if someone said "oooh you watch _that_ cartoon too??" I'd simply reply that it _wasn't_ a cartoon. Every person I have had this argument with is totally ignorant of the differences between a cartoon and something that is animated. I argued that watching Bonkers was a heck of a lot different then watching the Lion king. But noooo. They don't see the difference. They just say that I use that excuse cuz I am embarrassed that I watch cartoons. (NEVER! >:D)This is the basic opinion of the masses as well. ANIMATION=CARTOON=FOR KIDS.The USA really jips its artists. If you want to animate something and have it made a success Saturday morning or on the big screen you have to play up to so many damn rules and expectations that it comes out (IMO) a shadow of the original. That is not to say that America is totally screwed up with its rules.(no of course not;)) The sad fact is that animation=forkidsonly for most ppl. That means that we have to fallow certain guide lines since that is the group we are marketing too. It seems most ppl in here have been sighting a lot of shows in the 80's and then comparing them to that of the 90's. I thought I would take a stab at something different. Take a look at old Disney films. The full length animated ones I mean. Like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, The Sword in the Stone, Fox and The Hound. Here we have stories. The characters main aim is not to see how many sick cliche's they can chuck at you in approx. an hour. The characters don't break into friggin song every 5 min's weather its necessary or not. And there aren't a bunch of way too noticable messages like Mulan and woman's rights, or Tarzan and family ties/prejudices between races (in that event species) Don't get me wrong. I loved Tarzan. And I like Phil Collins so the musical numbers overall were tolerable. But that isn't the point. When you watched the Sword in the Stone it was humorous. It made you laugh. But I can guarantee you this. If that movie was re-made now the owl would have had a loud annoying voice, a sharp,sassy wit and the incredible ability to make references in ANY situation to some 90's catch phrase, topic, or actor. When you watched shows back then you got the story. Ya..there is always gonna be a joke here and there..but for GOSH SAKES. IT feels like they are RAMMING these jokes down your throught. And heck, they show them every other commercial break so you have half the movie memorized before the opening credits!What happened?? What happened to just TELLING THE DAMN STORY? Are our attention spans getting shorter and shorter? Are we getting dumber and dumber? Is is just easier? What? Tell me! WHAT? Ups..I rambled about movies. Sorry. My main point going into that was just to say that I would like to see animation taken more seriously. All its used for in this country is kids..which is why I personally think many ppl don't know what to do with anime when they first see it. Its animated...yet clearly has adult themes..It just puzzles a lot of parents I know. *shrugs* With the flood of interest in anime going up though, hopefully that will be taken care of soon. Though I do worry sometimes that it is becoming way too much of a 'fad' thing and not being taken seriously. Like "wow, animation really ISN'T just for kids hey??" or "MAYBE we can actually start marketing animated stories with actual THOUGHT in them!" I hope it isn't the case that it is just a fad. Though most of me isn't worried. There are just too many serious anime fans out there. Its amusing though. Its so clear that they have NO clue how to market this stuff. And I suppose you can't blame them. Weather they keep an ear to the anime fans or NOT they are still subject to all those rules. But its cute how they sneak things in more and more. I remember when they first started DBZ here. Yes, they still have to 'send characters to another dimension' And we still see bad guys rotting in HEFL' and cities are still being evacuated in 2 seconds from a gigantic blast that demolishes a 10 mile radius'. But the fighting scenes have gotten better. They used to color out most of the blood with black (to make it look like a scrap or bruis) or just cleared up the blood completely. Now we have blood dripping from open wounds. Not that I am obssesed with blood or violence ppl;P Its just a little hard for me to belive that the blast that just nuked a world gave a character a scrap on the chest at best. The commercials arn't any better thought. I just fall over laughing at some of the advertisement gimmicks to sell this stuff. And to think of poor Sailor Moon. And that was AFTER they decided not to market it ala Power Rangers. For those of you who don't know count your blessings. Yes, the dubbed version was pure crap (IMO) They didn't even let the voice actors know about their characters! Just gave them a VERY brief synopsis and threw them into the recording booths! But I have sadly been witness to a copy of what they had originally planned for SM. *shuts her eyes* oh gosh...I ..I just CANT EXPLAIN THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!! Take the Power R's and stick them into sailor suits THERE YA GO!! Only this time add in some really BAD girly music, vally girl lingo and a crap load of 90's equality. HELL they had Sailor Jupiter in a WHEEL CHAIR!!! HELLO?? Its hard enough for them to fight the forces of the Negaverse in those damn high heels..but a wheel chair? *shakes her head* sorry..thats goes TOO far. They also, of course, had lots of ethnic diversity. One of the scouts was black, another white, one was Asian..so on. Lordy.

Ups..rambled again!! OK heres my opinion of cartoons today (in this country) in a nutshell

Most of them suck because we have a major issue in this country. That being that animation=kids. As long as that is upheld by most ppl then animation in this country will be made mostly for kids. If it is made mostly for kids then sadly it will lack a lot of plot. If it lacks a lot of plot then it sucks. *shrugs* But on the up side, as many here have already pointed out far more elequently (sp) then I, anime may just be that life line we are looking for, and so far it seems to be taking off.

Perhaps this is just something we have to grow out off..throw off the training wheels of Saturday morning brainless dribble and actually put some balls on our toons.
oohh..that was naughtiest thing I have ever said in here *watches Robby like a sneaky two year old to see if he will let her get away with it*
Lexy
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:58:56 PM
IP: spider-tl034.proxy.aol.com

Ups..it was twords the end there when I posted this..so I'll be reallya annoying and post again right before the end of THIS week too:P!! dumb schedual :(
Lexy
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:58:01 PM
IP: spider-tl034.proxy.aol.com

Just a little note, I will be leaving town tomorrow until Sunday and won't be in here. I have responded to several of you and I want to thank everyone for their kind words and friendship.

Kit and Daniel Johnson...check your e-mail. I love doing this :)

Aaron> *hugs back*

Gside> Thank you for that enigmatic contemplation. :)
SOROW
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:56:52 PM
IP: dll2a020-0733.splitrock.net

Rp saved for later tonight....it's gonna be fun. But I saw something about my favorite book series.

X-wing the book series--Love it, just got through reading Wraith Squadron through Isards Revenge again, and as always, just an awesome series. Currently on I, Jedi, but man, would I love to see more of the New Republic Intellgence Wraith Squadron. Just have that place in my heart for those guys and gals. Dirty fighters, heh heh. That, or a book on Myn Donos. That poor dude. Very little light of day was shed on him in Stackpole's Isard book. Hopefully, we'll see more of him soon.

On the debate of what is a good ship, it really depends. TIE's have the speed factor, but all you are riding in is an engine and two lasers...not much, I must say. But Speed and Manueverabilty is just great in them. X-wings are good fighters also, but I don't put a HUGE amount of stock in them. They're older, and less reliable. But, for their purpose, they're about the best you get, unless you want to start talking frieghters and such.

Kit--RP-Thanks for not having a Turbolaser Barrage on the battle sight of #4, that would have hurt....a bit....a REALLY REALLY HUGE ol' big bit.

Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:29:03 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Jenna: The most recent RP with Thailog was mine, not Doug's. Sorry for the mix-up, but still glad you liked it. :) Maybe this color will make us easier to tell apart again. :)

Stephen: Sorry I forgot to add this earlier, but I too will be praying for your friend and hope her life soon becomes free of its problems. Just wanted you to know. :)
Kitainia
Thursday, June 8, 2000 10:58:39 PM
IP: pool-209-138-214-223.dlls.grid.net

re: X-men>>
Yes, there really was a mutant called Toad. He was Magento's chief flunky in the League of Evil Mutants with Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. That was way, way back in the early Stan Lee days. His powers were mostly agility and jumping, as near as I can remember.

Skippy>> Thanks for the A-kon pics! I was looking through the links and I think I spotted Kyryn in a red kimono!
Spike
Thursday, June 8, 2000 10:56:40 PM
IP: ppp08-47.ght.iadfw.net

**SPOILERS FOR X-MEN MOVIE**
is there really a mutant named Toad? or is that just a made-for-film character?
i was wondering because there were four posters for the X-Men movie at my local theatre: in order: Toad, Rogue {a woman or a girl, couldn't tell}, Jean Grey, and Professor X.
**END X-MEN SPOILERS**

Brooklyn: <<1)Sorry about that stupid hotmail forward! I read it, and must of been suffering from dementia, because I actually took it seriously!LOL. I never do. I knew you were with hotmail so I forwarded it to you. again sorry:) >>

that was YOU?? why - why - why you wingless psycotropic-looking kethqot, invalidator of jseensces, trages ei weileenz puo!@!!!!!

oh, sorry...language thingie starting to slip.

Brooklyn: since you apologized, i forgive you. {despite the fact that i had to turn off my frozen computer...which i was going to do anyway, i have to admit}.

REMEMBER: YOU ARE _FORGIVEN_.

{though groveling in moderation will be tolerated}. :)

Rodlox
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:35:09 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

doug- love the rp! good as usual! ^_^
jenna
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:32:49 PM
IP: 2cust105.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net

long time no see- eh?

Steven- man that's terrible about your computer- and your friend- oh, man there are no words.

what's all this talk about changing sailor moon- does someone wish to clarify?

anyway, on a personal note- work is going good- knock on wood- and my team is very motivated. very good!

on other things- well, all this napster brohaha has led me not only to seek out various mp3 --but I have come across the underworld of game roms and emulators-- and i am loving it-- long live software piracy!! ARg- shiver me timbers- but seriously- if any of my friends in this room are interested in getting into contact with me i can send them links, ect. Downloading right now the japanese rom for Gundum wing!!
jenna
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:30:32 PM
IP: 2cust105.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net

Matthew: Neither. The Jaspers in question are quite white.
The time period we're dealing with predates the troubles of modern migrant workers (Cesar Chavez was a long way off). In the '30s, Calfornia migrant workers were primarily displaced Midwesterners, mostly from Oklahoma (which was hit hardest by the Dust Bowl drought) who had no place else to go because their home farms had all died, leaving them no income or manner of survival.

My suggestion ... find a copy of "The Grapes of Wrath," it'll clarify much more. (Believe me, when I was writing this I was almost *grateful* that I've had to deal with TGOW about *five* times in high school and college for various assignments.)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:21:52 PM
IP: 216.28.101.96

I like this color. Think I'll stay with it since so many other people use white. Unless someone minds. :)

**RP WARNING**

Thailog, having finished his business with Mecord and the mysterious Shadow Wolf, is sitting in his room planning a scheme when suddenly Tyl and Corax rush in looking a bit frantic. "Boss, we picked up this on the TV!" Tyl says, holding up a videotape. "We would have brought it to you sooner, but you were busy, so�" "Just show it to me," Thailog snaps. The Evil Hacker nods and puts on the tape, then together he, Thailog, and Corax watch Four's message to the world. "What do you think?" Corax asks when it is over. "Isn't this worrisome? A power level that high�" "Is clear evidence that we can not do anything to its possessor and hope to live," Thailog cuts in, growling. "You were right to bring this to me. If this Four destroys the world before we can conquer it�" "So what are we going to do about her?" Tyl asks. "Maybe we could have Admiral Nipon deploy his Super Star Destroyer. It might have enough firepower to take her out." "No!" Thailog replies. "I will not unnecessarily squander our resources!" Corax frowns. "Then what are we going to do?" Thailog chuckles. "Nothing. We'll let the heroes of the world challenge this menace. If they can defeat her, well then, so much the better for us. The chances are quite good she will eliminate at least a few of them during their battle." "And if not?" Corax asks. "Then it won't matter, will it?" Thailog shrugs. "We'll all be dead. Thank you for making me aware of this. Now go find Jerec and check on his progress." "Can't expect him to have made much," Tyl sighs. "He hasn't been gone that long." "I know," Thailog replies. "Just find out what he's doing." The two hackers nod and leave the room.

The screen changes to a display of the base at Area 51, where the Ravens are gathering around the Onslaught and getting their gear on. Doug and Kit have just met Anthony, and are speaking to him off to one side of the truck. They have just finished telling him their mission. "You can come with us up to the Avatar if you want to, I guess," Doug says. "If you want to help us, you're welcome to come along. Right, Kit?" "Right," she nods. "I just gotta warn you to be ready for what's up there. We're going to be meeting up with a lot of demons." "No problem," Anthony smiles. "Don't worry about me." "Okay," Doug shrugs. "If you think so." "Then you wait here," Kit adds. "We'll be right back." Anthony nods and settles down to wait and watch as they walk off. Kit tells Doug to go get his gear from Boris, then walks over to Orion, who is quietly watching Anthony as he checks his supplies of holy water and healing potions. "Well?" Kit asks. "What's his deal?" "I can't tell," Orion frowns. "He's not a paladin, or a cleric like me, or a psionicist, or a wizard. I don't know what he is, and my spells haven't helped me. I don't detect any evil or masking magics about him, though." Kit nods, grimacing. "Well, that's good," she says. "I suppose we'll find out what he is soon enough. Why don't you keep an eye on him if you can, just in case? We don't want to deal with a possible traitor." "Well, I highly doubt he's against us if you got in here," Orion replies, "but if you wish." Kit nods that she does and then goes walking off to find Lathrop, who is making sure his staff is fully charged for the upcoming combat. He and Tom are also standing near the truck's brig, talking to Leah and Mansfield, who are both leaning against the bars of the newly rebuilt cell. "What are you guys getting ready for?" Mansfield asks, pointing to all the people grabbing weapons, and Tom tells him. He and Leah both grimace. "Combat, huh?" the latter says. "Wish we could go with you. We're pretty bored being cooped up in here." "Well, I'm sorry," Lathrop answers, "but we don't exactly know if we can trust you." "Yeah," Tom sighs. "It's kinda hard to fight alongside someone after they've tried to kill you." "But if you're fighting demons, shouldn't our past relationship not matter?" asks Leah. "These things are a threat to all the world, I know because my best friend fought them a lot before they killed her a few years back. She was a Slayer ($ side note- the one who was called before Buffy, if anyone cares $)." She sighs. "Look, if you guys could use our help, why not take it? The enemy of your enemy is your friend, right? And you know we're not exactly your enemies anymore." Tom shakes his head. "No, I don't think so. But you guys had better stay here instead. You'll be safer." "Hey," Mansfield snaps. "Leah and I can handle ourselves!" "We know that," Kit replies, walking up. "We just don't want to take any chances. Besides, we don't have extra weapons for you guys to use." "Then find some," Leah suggests. "We want to help you." Kit sighs. "Sorry." She then motions to Tom and Lathrop, and they walk away, Tom wearing a slight grimace. Leah frowns as she watches him and the others go. "Why won't they trust us?" "You really have to ask yourself that?" Mansfield chuckles in disbelief. "Man, girl, you got it bad for that Tom guy, don't you?" "What?" Leah frowns, looking at him. "Never mind," he waves his hands, smiling. "It don't matter, anyway. I ain't that sure I'd want to fight with them, even if they are good and nice people. They killed so many of our buddies, don't you recall? I don't think I can ignore it." Leah sighs, but nods. "Neither can I." She sighs and sits down, continuing to watch Tom while she is watched herself by a frowning Mansfield and a shadowy figure also observing the Ravens while the screen goes blank.

**UNTIL POST IS OVER, END RP**

Hello everyone! <smiles and waves> Good to be back in here after a week's absence, good to see you all again. Sorry I missed meeting so many of you at A-Kon, it was a great convention at which Doug and I had a very good time. If we had gotten to see our friends, it would have been even better. <sighs> Next year we'll really have to look harder for our friends, I guess. :( Now on to comments and replies.

Shadowrider: Enjoyed your fanfic, glad you were finally able to post it. Good job on portraying and developing all the various characters, Nemo especially. The plot of the story was well-paced and well-written, events flowing well from one to the next with good tension and surprises all throughout. I must say that I have not enjoyed an author's first work this much in a long time. :) The only problem I found with the story was the translation deal Doug already mentioned, which is understandable and should be fixed with practice on your part. Keep up the good work, I am looking forward to your next story whenever it comes out. :) Thanks to you and everyone else who's given us congratulations on the car.

Garg Wings: Good luck to those making them. Mine are nothing fancy, but they were at least fun to wear at the last costume party Doug and I went to, and may be again this Halloween. I'm sure real ones that can actually flap and cape would be even more fun, thus I hope that those of you trying to create them can get it done. <sighs> I regret having neither the knowledge or the time to do something similar myself. :(

Starsinger: <nods> I've seen those Senator Kelly ads. I can't really say I appreciate them, being pro-mutant and anti-fear and all, but they certainly are catchy. :) Another good bit of preview material for the X-Men movie is the "Magneto" prequel comic book now in stores. It sets the stage for how the villain becomes what he is quite well, remaining pretty true to X-Men canon and developing the characters as well as making an interesting plot. I can only hope the film itself will have as-good writing (I have heard they're switching Rogue back from telepath power to the touch-drain power she's supposed to have, that's a good. But they're naming Cyclops Henry instead of Scott. Hmm.).

SJ: Chris Reeve is getting feeling back in his paralyzed body? That's good, thanks for telling us. I too hope that one day we can cure his disease, to help the others who have it as well as him. I hope that even if we do cure it one day, the plight of those with it and their strength will be always remembered. :) Also good to know that Vin Diesel might be playing Mr. Freeze (he'd be good IMO) and that Jimmy Smits will be in the next Star Wars. As for Revolta, well what he did in Paris makes me angry, but I can get over it. At least that awful movie he and the Cult of Scientology made is deserving all the bad press and negative interest it gets. :) Sorry about the ticket, and hope you have continued good medical luck with your dad.

Mecord: $ Good that you weren't actually going to blow up the Avatar. :) I'd have missed it. Hope you don't mind us coming to clear it of demons soon (don't worry, SJ, we do plan to take care of Mephisto but not kill him, only get him to relinquish his control over your soul :). Also hope you are able to keep throwing more intriguing developments into the action. :) $

Avalon Mists: Great job on this latest issue, everyone who contributed. The pics were excellent and the cartoons well-drawn and hilarious (both Michael Heitz's stuff and Stone Bikini). Also liked all the various swimsuit stories, especially Club Tropico and Stephen's tale (which had a nice plot and writing, but was unfortunately a little confusing for someone not completely familiar with his ficverse. I should make myself so :). Also liked Mandi's character spotlight, Christine's intro letter and organization of the magazine, the Random Garg Generator (I even found a family for me in there :), and the songs and poems. Haven't looked at the other stuff yet, but I hope to soon (some of it, like Sunnydale Interlude, I've already seen elsewhere). Hope that next season's issue is even better, and the good work will be kept up. :)

Christine: Loved the latest developments in A King for Hothar, they've answered more than a few questions that were bugging me and created great potential developments for future parts of the story (always good things :). I have not yet had time to read the rest of the latest Sabledrake issue, but I'm sure it's good and will confirm that opinion soon. <grin> Glad that your leg is doing better, I pray it heals soon. Looking forward to Lylth when it comes out, hope you will soon finish it baring any further mix-ups with the cat. :)

Lady Foxglove: What, no T-shirts? Oh, rats. <no offense to Jerry> Oh well, I know you don't have time for it, and we can just as easily get it done here by other friends of ours. Thanks anyway, glad you at least don't seem to mind us using your artwork. Hope your work is and continues to be profitable, enjoyable, and good.

The State of Animation: Don't know what to say about this, right now I'm not really in the mood to criticize and the way cartoons today are, there seems not much else a true fan of them can really do. :( Yeah, we have good stuff like Gargoyles and Batman Beyond, but it's either been cancelled or seems doomed from the start. :( Not to mention all the really good stuff in it like Deadly Force getting wiped out by the censors. I don't like what's going on with cartoons in this country today. It seems like we aren't willing to make and keep any more good ones. :( Yeah, Japan is producing some, but if Pokemon and its clones are the most popular thing we're going to get from over there, I am not happy <understatement>. Especially when the good stuff like Princess Mononoke, Gundam Wing, and Sailor Moon is censored by our crazy conservatives and/or mostly kept out of the public sight. What the fact that most of us don't seem to enjoy good realistic cartoons with interesting plots and prefer boring repetitive dreck to them says about Americans is not comforting to say the least. Kaioto and Oracle have both made excellent points about what parents should and need to do about all this affecting their children, I don't know who to agree with (though I do agree with Lexy about our problem with thinking animation's just for kids and preferring emphasis on plot and characters to emphasis on icing-on-the-cake stuff like jokes, songs, visual effects, and cliches (this view I have always held and always will :), and with Gasper about what were good and bad cartoons, even if he is wrong about Archangel and Psylocke being in the X-Men cartoon. I can recall seeing them in a few episodes of it :) And I agree with Doug and Todd about Pinky and the Brain). Green Baron has a good middle ground viewpoint, maybe I'll support him. :) Otherwise, I think I'll stay out of this debate. Hope it can get settled soon so we move on to more pleasant and interesting topics we can actually find good solutions for. Unless we can really do something about the problems we see in animation these days, and right now I hate to say I don't think there is anything that we can� <dismayed sigh> :(

**SPOILERS FOR LATEST EPISODE OF TIMEDANCER**

On the plus side, at least the only Internet continuation of a good animated series that some idiots kicked off the air which I know of is still turning out excellent episodes. :) "Once I Built a Tower" was very good, with a very good plot and depiction of history. Chris Jasper was an interesting character, even if we didn't get much development of him, and there were good portrayals of Brooklyn and Celer as well. I was happy to get some hints of character development and reaction to the future from the latter, stuff we missed from him in last week's ep to my dismay. And it was nice to see Brooklyn get developed too. The truck chase scene had very nice action, with a good illustration for it, and Brooklyn confronting the orchard owner and his thugs was a cool scene too. Also enjoyed the dialogue all throughout this one, and what happened to Celer at the end (can't help but wonder how he'll get used to the time he's living in now, with its different language, customs, and all, and if we'll ever see him again. Hope to find out someday :). It was a good final development for him. Good that Brooklyn can stop worrying about him now too (hope he soon gets back to Sata so there's someone else for him to interact with regularly though :). All in all, I enjoyed this episode very much. It was a bit short, and had one small plot hole (unlike the soldiers last episode, Chris didn't seem to notice or comment on Celer's strange name, accent, and style of dress) but I didn't find any real problems. Nice song to go along with it too, thanks for posting it Coyote. 9/10, thumbs up. Kudos and praise to the writers.

**SPOILERS END**

Firestorm: Ameobas have more chromosomes than humans? I must say that is very surprising. Especially to one who's not very good at biology. :) Thanks for mentioning it, it's an interesting fact. Hope I can soon vote on some more CR pics if that's what it takes to get them in here. I think we certainly need them. <grin>

Wilek: You're welcome. Doug and I also like the Simpsons' gleeful sadism. Sure they've had a lot of really bad episodes this season that we haven't liked, but for the good ones in the past the show will always remain a classic of TV, comedy, and animation. Hope that next season they get the quality back up. :)

Spike: <whoops> Congrats to your boys and their team on their big win. I hope they go on to many more, without serious injury (hockey unfortunately can inflict that :(. Whatever happens, it's good that you're continuing to cheer them on (just don't expect too much of them, we wouldn't want you turning out like the stereotypical Little League sports parent :).

Spacebabie: Glad your brother and his friend are okay after getting jumped, I hope the cops get the guys who did it. This crime on their part didn't result in serious injury, but with people like them who will commit random assault on people, if they aren't stopped it's unfortunately only a matter of time before they'll do something worse. :(

Jannie: Congrats on the new car, and finishing the school year (you should have done that now, if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure it's a relief :). Hope you are able to enjoy the former, and that the latter will give you much good free time to spend well until the madness once again begins. :)

Janine: <sighs> Parents. They can be difficult to deal with alright. Especially when it comes to insane expectations. I know this better than a lot of people even though I don't interact with mine on a daily basis anymore. Our history has some pretty big mix-ups in it. :( Good luck dealing with yours, hope you avoid similar ones (and still manage to get good things out of it like the skills and money you need). If there's anything you think Doug and me can do to help you with your situation (we've done our best to prove our friendship and status as good people to concerned parents of Internet-friends and given them advice before- it hasn't always been successful, but we're still willing to do it), please let us know. :)

Archwolf: Good luck with your parents too, and your knee, and your job, and the Mormon girl (whom I hope you take Mecord's advice in dealing with), and all your life's other challenges. If Doug and I can help with them, please don't hesitate to let us know.

Stephen: Hate to say I don't remember Galaxy High, though it does sound like an interesting show (maybe I can get eps of it on tape somehow). Sorry to hear about your computer trouble, good luck getting your machine back together and hope you don't end up losing all your fanfic. I want to read more of it soon so I can be more informed on what is a very interesting, enjoyable, and well-written ficverse of plots and characters (this opinion based on the few stories of yours I've read in Avalon Mists. I will be reading the others you've written very soon hopefully :).

Airwalker: Going to Israel, huh? Hope you enjoy it. I've never been there, but I've heard many people who have say it is interesting. Have fun and return to us safe. :)

SOROW: Sorry about the bad time you had at camp and your depression. At least the first is over now, and as for the second, well, I want to help you with it, but I don't really know much about what ails you, so it's a little difficult. :( If you'll tell me, though, I will be glad to give you whatever emotional comfort and support is needed to get you back to feeling good again. That's what sisters are for, after all, among other things. It's something good friends are for too, and we're definitely that. :) And I've been depressed in the past and gotten over it, so I think maybe I can help. So tell me what I can do, and I'll do it. :) Use the e-mail if you want, it's below. Hope you're feeling better soon, please let me know what I can do to help.

Kyryn: We're sorry to have missed you at A-Kon too. :( Should have looked harder and asked more people if they knew where Beth was, if we go next year (which we probably will) we'll definitely take your suggestion. I look forward to meeting you then if it ends up that way. <crosses fingers> For now, congrats on helping to organize what was a very fun, cool, and entertaining con.

Welcome Embabu, Brooklyn, Gail, and all newcomers! :) Always good to have more potential friends.

Coyote: What? Jeff MacNelly's dead? <gasps, then sighs, and is silent for a long moment> Yet another cartoonist whose work I have long enjoyed and appreciated. Hope his legend will live on forever. <sigh>

That's about all for now, I think. Time to get on to my studies, since classes are back in session now and all. :( Hope I do well in the ones I'm taking, it's good that they're at least interesting and helping me to graduate sooner than many others. <grins> Doug and I will see you all again soon, when time permits, with a movie review of Gone in Sixty Seconds. Hope the film is good, and that most if not all of the many conflicts going on our lives will be resolved by the time we return here after seeing it. Until next time, and beyond, let us all stay friends. :)

**MORE RP HERE**

The screen comes back on, displaying a security room in the Atlanta Time-Warner Building. It is empty except for a lone janitor cleaning the monitors with a dirty rag. "Shap," someone whispers, and the janitor looks up, revealing to all watchers that he is indeed the Ravens' resident paladin. He turns around and nods at Shauna as she walks in. "Good that I found you," she says. "I got bad news. I just eavesdropped on one of Turner's big meetings. He, Steve Case, Geraldine Laybourne, Pat Robertson, Fieger, and a bunch of other people are all working for Gothmenes. They're planning to burn this city and set off an apocalypse by doing it somehow." "Oh, man, that is bad," Shap replies, clenching his fists and grimacing. "We're going to need the others to stop them. Did they give a timetable?" Shauna nods. "As soon as some people called the Ten are dead, they'll be making their move. Apparently there was some television broadcast a few days ago with a powerful demon�" "I know," Shap interrupts her. "I saw it. I was in one of these monitor rooms. Believe me, if it wouldn't have interfered with the mission we're on now, I would be going after that demon even as we speak." He sighs. "I haven't been able to find out much myself. Just what I've seen on these monitors mostly. The security guards almost never even glance at them, even when they're in here, it's nuts. I only got one juicy tidbit, though." He points to the one he just cleaned. "Look at that." Shauna does so and gasps, seeing Kit's evil clone sitting in her prison. "That's Asil! So Turner is keeping her hostage." "Yeah," Shap nods. "Too bad I haven't been able to find out why." Shauna shrugs. "It probably isn't important. We need to get back to the others and tell them what I heard at the meeting. I don't think they suspect us, so we should be able to get away easily. Let's go to where we stashed our stuff and grab it, then get out of town and call Kit." "Right," Shap nods. "You sure we can�" "Excuse me," a voice suddenly interjects, and the pair turn to see Richard Simmons, Susan Powter, and Pat Robertson standing in the room's doorway. "I don't think you'll be leaving here," says Simmons, who spoke. "At least not alive." Powter nods. "We're going to stop your insane opposition of Lord Gothmenes right now." Robertson grins in agreement, drawing a cross from his coat pocket that he holds upside down and setting it alight with a whispered magic. "We thought you were spying on our meeting, Miss Lockdale, and lo and behold, we were right! Now you and your fellow sinner better prepare to taste the unholy fire of hell!" Shap and Shauna sigh and grit their teeth, then draw their weapons as their three enemies rush to begin their fight.

Meanwhile, in Abdullah's office in the Middle East, Abdullah and Harthoth (now in his human form at Abdullah's request) are watching as the door opens. A tall thin man in a khaki uniform and long orange trench coat enters, his weasel-like features framed by unkempt and dirty blond hair. "You wanted to see me?" he asks in a voice that carries a deep Irish accent. "Yes, Mr. Flanagan," Abdullah replies, waving at a chair. "Please sit down. I believe you have not met my friend Khensu?" "Kieran Flanagan," the Irishman introduces himself. "Pleasure." "Likewise, I am sure," Harthoth frowns as he replies. "What exactly do you do, Mr. Flanagan? Abdullah told me you were an engineer." "I am," Flanagan answers. "Demolition is my main field, I also know electrical, civil, and military. I was trained by the SAS Engineers Corp, and then I left them to join the Irish Republican Army. You recall that British Army barracks that got blown up in Belfast back in '91? Killed thirty people, they never caught the bomber? That was me. I've blown up other buildings too, in Ireland and England. You recall the bomb they found in Buckingham Palace back in '95, the one that almost got those royal bastards? That was me, too. They covered it up, so not many people know about it, but�" "I know about it," Harthoth smiles. "You have an impressive resume. But tell me, what are you doing here?" "He became a wanted fugitive in Europe after they found his bomb in Buckingham Palace," Abdullah answers. "They lifted his prints from the plastique." "A small mistake," Flanagan sighs. "One I've since corrected by always wearing gloves." "He's worked for the PLO and Hamas in the past few years," Abdullah continues. "I picked him up recently, and we've done good work together. Now I think I'm going to have Mr. Flanagan do me another favor." "Blow up the building where your old grudge is staying," says Harthoth. "Exactly," Abdullah nods. "Sounds groovy," Flanagan chuckles, taking out a cigar and sticking it in his mouth. "So tell me about this building, and this old grudge." Abdullah begins to do so as the screen goes blank.

**FOR NOW, END RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:12:48 PM
IP: pool-207-205-149-184.dlls.grid.net

Dark Ages>> True there's a Viking raid in the future, but that's not for a decade or 2. Plenty of time for Asrial to find love and maybe even lay an egg. If the gargess inventor could just get over her inferiority complex and realize how attractive she is, she just might spend more time outside her workshop.

X-Wing vs. TIE>> I've never played any of the Star Wars computer games, but I HAVE read a number of X-Wing novels. Judging from those, I'd say that the X-Wing is the best all-around fighter. Sure Bombers can dish out punishment, but they're slow and not as manuverable as other fighters. TIE Fighters and Interceptors are fast and manuverable(in vaccum) but they have no shields and lose manuverability in atmosphere. Not to mention that TIEs don't have ejection seats(the most important piece of equipment in any fighter about to crash)

**RP- The Ten Saga**
[You don't know who I am?] Dragon Warrior was surprised that Gasper didn't know who he was. [Don't you watch TV? Man. I gotta have a talk with my agent. AFTER this fight] Dragon warrior pointed his gauntlets at #4 [PHOTON BLAST!!] he shouted and a bolt of energy fired from the gauntlets and slammed into #4, sending smoke and shockwaves in all directions. He turned to look at Gasper.

[Don't tell me you didn't hear about that alien Mega-Cannon on Mars that I knocked out? Hey! I just realized. The broadcast she sent out mentioned the CyberSmurf. Maybe it was her teammate?]

"Let me know when you're ready to start." came #4's voice as the smoke cleared, showing her to be completely unharmed by Dragon Warrior's blast.

[Yowser. I think I better take the gloves off.] Dragon Warrior said as at a mental command, panels on his armor opened to reveal blast nozzles. [Let's see you laugh off THIS!] Energy crackled around him as the blasters energized. [MEGA-ATTACK VOLLEY!] over a dozen beams of energy poured from the various nozzles on Dragon Warrior's armor. The light was blinding,making it impossible to see the result until the beams ended to reveal...
**End RP for now**
I left the end in question cuz I'm not sure how much damage one of Dragon Warrior's most powerful attacks will affect #4.

**Mild TD spoilers**
One thing. Were the Jaspers that Brooklyn helped black or latino? It's not made clear in the episode. And I agree, it would be neat if we did see Celer again in present day Manhattan, though I doubt it'll happen.
**End TD spoilers**

Personally, something I can't wait to see is Brooklyn and Sata reunited, preferably before the twins hatch.
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:07:37 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-106-213.bellatlantic.net

I have carpal tunnel, so I can't type much, but I just wanted to say really good Timedancer season so far ^_^
cherry blossom
Thursday, June 8, 2000 09:02:01 PM
IP: spider-wj013.proxy.aol.com

Toodles!!!
Just trying out a new pic and color for a change.
So here are some quick posts.
<Rodlox>
1)Sorry about that stupid hotmail forward! I read it, and must of been suffering from dementia, because I actually took it seriously!LOL. I never do. I knew you were with hotmail so I forwarded it to you. again sorry:)
2)Those tapes whenever you want them send me your address.
<Janine>
Same thing as Rodlox.Sorry I sent you the same thing.
Email what you've got on your fics or instant message me.
I'd like to here from you.
<Winterwolf>
Sent you some mail regarding those tapes. Let me know what you think.
about those pics you're working on, are they yours or screen caps you're enhancing. Which reminds me could you enhance Broadway's death and send it.If you're too busy please don't worry about!I don't really need it, and you've probably got a full load with everything else in your life!
So if you can great if not cool.
<Formal Apology>
It appears to me that my comments about various Disney Afternoon programs, were at the least unpopular.
So I'm apologising to all that this may concern I enjoyed those shows a lot as a kid, and maybe I forgot how special they were.
By the way Winterwolf how did you possibly remember that theme song word for word?

That's all for now gotta write dem fics!:D
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 08:06:07 PM
IP: usr8.cqc.com

Gside: oh sure, lump two Monty Python songs together...see what happens. :) {just remember: if they challenge you to dueling rrabbitts - RUN}!

**COMMENT ON TD COMMENTs**
i figure Celer will have the same % of translation that Sata has...unless the Gate effects humans and gargs differently in that regard - which leads to a mental image of Quarrymen picketing the fae. ::)
**END COMMINGING COMMENTTS**

Rodlox
Thursday, June 8, 2000 07:55:08 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

A moment of silence, please, for Jeff MacNelly, creator of the comic strip "Shoe."

....
Coyote the Bando
Thursday, June 8, 2000 06:53:45 PM
IP: 216.28.101.96

****TGS SPOILERS****

Once I Built A Tower: Good story. The scene with Brooklyn driving the truck was awesome. The story really conveyed what conditions at the time were like. I agree with Daniel Johnson that it would be interesting to see what happens with the language barrier. The illustration was excellent.

****END SPOILERS****

Newcomers> Welcome!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, June 8, 2000 06:41:03 PM
IP: dial-234.ocis.net

Oh, and maybe I should divulge the source of the title for this week's TD ep ... apologies for the double post ...

**pulls out a harmonica and plays a short intro ... badly**
**SONG WARNING!**

Once I built a tower
To the sun
Brick and mortar and lime
Once I built a tower
Now it's gone
Brother, can you spare a dime?

**END SONG!**

The previous song, "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" is considered a definitive piece of folk music from the Depression era, mainly because it deals with the condition of the country at the time. Just a helpful piece of information for those who couldn't figure out what a tower would have to do with the Depression (other than Chris Jasper's silo).
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, June 8, 2000 06:37:37 PM
IP: 216.28.101.96

Just a quickie for right now, though I do appreciate the kind words for "Once I Built a Tower."

Skippy: Coolies, you got a pic of Vash! You were right, Robby, that guy was dead-on!!
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, June 8, 2000 06:14:34 PM
IP: 216.28.101.96

Mara> Whoops. Forgot to mention I got a pic of a rather nifty Xellos costume.

Gside> Well, actually, I don't really think plot=Fast forward, it was just something from H-fest which amused me.

Robby><<Of course, there was that really WIERD episode at the last SAAS meeting where Tuxedo Mask seemed to be hitting on Mercury or something...>> Well, he'd been gone for a while, he had to do something to get screen time.

Stephen> Ouch. Sorry about the computer crash. Good luck.

SOROW> Hugs.

Skippy> I've got some fairly amusing pics, if you've got room on your site that'd be great. You're even in one of them.

Archwolf> X-wing take the Tie D?!? You have insulted the skill of all Imp pilots everywhere! But seriously, after all the X-targets I've smoked in Tie Bombers, you get an attitude.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 06:14:00 PM
IP: ppp-46.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

*de lurks for a moment*
Night Walker- Hey there! =) glad to see you back to the CR. Email me sometime, love to chat.

Timedancer> I really enjoyed this week's episode, I have to agree Brooklyn driving was the best part ^-^

thats all folks! *she turns the lurk button back on*
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 05:14:05 PM
IP: spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com

!@$# zip drive. I'm pretty sure it doesn't like me. first I'm having problems with Duke and Ella's version of It Don't Mean a Thing, now it starts messing with Moxy. I've redone it, and it had better be a good version (I checked before I ftped).

SOROW> I hope you feel better soon. Always look on the bright side of life. And remember that you're sitting on a planet that's evolving and revolving a million miles an hour, that's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, a sun that is the source of all our power.

Winterwolf> <<Might have been as many as six>>: Four, sir!
<<Do you multiply the amount of time it will take you to do something by 3?>>: Not yet. To be a true engineer, I must first have on the job experience, then I can start overestimating timetables.

More later after I return from class.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, June 8, 2000 04:05:24 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hey hey! :)

Niamhgold> Yeah! Woohoo, I'm back! *HUGZ* Thanx! :)

Winterwolf> Well! You've been bussy! :P "I guess it is difficult to do a self-portrait and not move. ;)" I suggest you take a picture...OK! So I cheated when I did my self portrait but the teacher didnt know the dif! :P "All we did here was wonder where you went were and talked about how much we missed you. :)" Aw, really?!?!?! *cries* Thats so cute! Who cares about the rest! :P i'm kidding, the only thing I truly regret missing is that animation conversation, but I seem to have caught the ending of it, so its not that bad. Thanx alot!*HUGZ* And I'm glad to be back! :)

Aaron> Thanx! Happy to be back! And thanx for the A-Kon sum up... I had to know so I can mope with more sentiment ;P Glad You had fun tho :)

Well fellas, I gotta get! I'll see yas! *HUGZ all And skips on out*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 04:00:02 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

I just don't seem able to make posts in the first half of the week. :P And then the room fills up so fast...

****** TGS SPOILERS ******
A good story, Coyote and Entity. Brooklyn's first time driving a truck, huh? The part where he sticks his head out the window and scares the pursuers was priceless. I'm glad that Celer found somewhere to stay; it was just too difficult for Brooklyn to have to keep watching out for him. It was getting distracting. But, poor Brooklyn is alone again. Here's to hoping that he finds Sata soon. Tormenting characters is fun up to a point, but if it goes on too long it becomes depressing. I don't read fantasy to get depressed; Real Life does that very well on its own, thank you very much. ;)

Now that the Phoenix Gate isn't translating for Celer, what are people going to think about this young boy who speaks only Latin? ;) I agree with Archwolf that it would be interesting to see Celer in the future. Err, I mean the present. I also wonder if these Jaspers are related to Sara. I wouldn't be surprised.
****** END SPOILERS ******

Warpmind:
Just had to say that the "Hot Shots 2" quote had me ROTFL. I don't remember that.
----
Gail:
Dubai? United Arab Emirates? Cool. :) You know, that's the problem with creating such a great character like Asrial: we get so attached to her and yet we KNOW she's gonna die. And if TGS does find a way to save her, it'll seem like a cop-out. Ack! Dark Ages really depresses me sometimes. :(
----
SOROW:
I'm sorry I didn't see you post for so long. I know what it's like to be depressed. Really depressed. It's a problem I've had, on and off, all my life. That feeling of being alone, unwanted, useless, hopeless. Fortunately, I've always been too stubborn (or stupid) to give up even when I feel as if I should. Unfortunately, I usually don't say anything to anyone when I feel this way. Maybe I just think I should be able to handle things myself. That's dumb, but I've never really felt as though I had anyone I could talk to about it. And yet, here I find myself telling things to relative strangers without a second thought. YOU know more people here better and longer than I do, and you've already shown that you're willing to talk about it. That's good. There are lots of sympathetic ears around. Several people have already wished you well and Toku Kaioto has offered to talk: I find that his advice is often good. Heck, if you want to talk to someone whom you don't really know, my email address is below. I've been told that I'm a good listener. I guess that since I've rarely had someone to talk to when I'm feeling down, I feel very sensitive to others who feel the same way. Wow, that was quite a ramble. But oddly cathartic. :) Good luck and please feel better. D'oh! Now that I've read closer I see that you've already responded to some people. Never mind. :) I almost deleted all that, but it felt so good saying it that I think I'll leave it.
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Stephen:
Ack. Sorry to hear about your computer troubles. Can't you just download new Zip drivers from Iomega's web site? Does anyone you know have a Zip drive? BTW, no offense intended, but Zip disks really suck for backups. They're just too unreliable. I know, I have a Zip drive. I only use it to exchange data with other people's computers. Tape, CD-R (or CD-RW), or my own favorite, magneto-optical are all much safer. The computer at work has crashed and burned so many times that my head hurts just thinking about it. $@#$%^ Windows 98! I shudder to think what would have happened if we didn't do nightly tape backups. Here's to the breakup of Microsoft. Couldn't happen to a nicer company. ;)
----
Bleh. I still haven't posted my wacky fay evolution theory, but I'm all posted out for now.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 02:54:44 PM
IP: ppp-19.rb5.exit109.com

Oh my God!!! Well I'm back, and really irritated with this. My mom still hasn't gotten me a computer and my Godmother's has been screwy lately, finally got on.

I'm working here, babysitting my brat cousins, my brother, and my new dog Shakespere, so I might be using this computer often so I can finally catch up. Nothing much has changed, I hate my brother even more now. He is very irresponsible with the dog. We had him for less than 2 weeks and he put him on the top bunk. Supposedly the dog jumped off from about 7 ft. high. He's afraid of 2 ft. Nothing would jump from that high. Anyway the little dog's leg is in a cast now, poor thing. It's a yorkie, only 4 months old too.**sigh**

I'm listening to Aries' theme from Final Fantasy IIV , trying not to cry(just kidding). I ordered the orchestra version of FF8 a month ago and it still hasn't gotten here, I just found out yesterday that the order didn't come through, just my luck. I've listened to samples from it, the difference is incredible! The music is great. If anyone wants to listen you can find the samples at www.soundtrackcentral.com .(worthless plug)

As you can see my life is pretty boring at the moment. I just found out that I'm not moving at all. After my mom telling me not to get to emotionally attached to my friends because this would be temporary when I get home on the last day of school she tells me that we're not moving. Hows that?

Well I gotta go. I'll be back later tonight. bye for now.

I've missed you all. Oh and welcome all you newbies to the CR.
Night Walker - [Golliath01@hotmail.com]
Hobart (still), IN, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 02:30:49 PM
IP: liverpool-116.comnetcom.net

Hi to everyone here. Just a few replies.

Niamhgold:> 14th of June? Good to know...BTW, why is it called Flag Day? I guess there's some civil holyday, but what precisely? Anyway, it is weird...your B-day is in 14th of June, my girlfriend's one is in 19th of June, mine one is in 10th of June and my dearest friend's one was yesterday...speaking of coincidences...
Oh, for that Nemo's drawing...I'm working on the suit's description. I'll send you as soon as I can. Maybe I'll manage to arrange a scanner, so I'll send you the drafts I did...

Gunjack Valentine:> I posted a comment about our discussion here in the CR last week...probably you missed it. It is still in last week's CR, in 29th of May...

*** WARNING - TD SPOILER ***

Well, this one is decisively better! A bit short, but well developed...and I think it is just a prologue to a major event...meaning THE event...am I wrong? ;)
Anyway, this episode was as usual well-written, with a couple of funny scenes. Celer has been taken in place...well, I didn't like him so much, so I can't say I'm afraid of it. And his new family name is Jasper...I don't know if it is a common name in U.S.A., but it would be interesting by Brooklyn to ask Sara Jasper if some relative of her ever told her of some red angel...
I rate 8/10, and wait for more.

END SPOILER

Warpmind:> The funny thing with Ion Cannons is that if you manage to take down the shields of the ship you are attacking, then just a four hits are enough to disable even a Star Destroyer...and then...well, one of my preferred hobbies in T.I.E. Fighter is called "Take them piece by piece..."... <maniacal laughter>
And, about that combat of yours...well, as my grandma says, "When a M/FRG is over, you made another one..." ;)

Archwolf:> TIE Defender has weak armor? Maybe, but you have to pierce shields to reach the armor...and to pierce shields you have to *hit* the Defender...and the X-Wing, although it is the coolest-styled starfighter ever, has a bit difficulties in doing it...;)

OK, seems nothing more.

See you all!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, June 8, 2000 02:17:08 PM
IP: h255-22-217.mi2.albacom.net

*The hole left by Warpmind's departing TIE Defender is widened by a barage of blaster fire. when the hole is large enough, and Incom T-65 X-Wing moves slowly into the CR on Repulsor Lifts.*

Now THAT is a starfighter. None of this TIE junk. TIE D's hull is just like TIE Fighter's: Plastic. Two good burst get through the shields, and BOOM!Anyway.

**TD Spoilers**
I really enjoyed this ep. Good Job, all! It reminded me of reading Grapes of Wrath in Highschool, the one book we read in AP English that I thouroughly enjoyed. One thing I do find odd: I am guessing that the Jaspers we encouter are the Grand Parents (Great Grands?) of our Sara Jasper, right? So how does Detective Jasper come to think that Gargoyles are so bad? Did she get a message mixed up somewhere, or what?
I am glad that Celer anded up safe somewhere, but now I gotta wonder, do we meet him again at some point in the present (GarGoyles current date would put him what, 70 years old?(+/- a few))
**End Spoilers**

Mec>Actually, I don't think I am ever likely to talk to this woman again. She entered the faith a year ago, and ever since, we have drifted further and further apart. Well, since before that, really, but this is when it started to get bad. I just can't stand to be around her. Anywas. On to (hopefull) more pleasna tstuff, like: How goes yer fic?

*Looks over to where WarFrost is still curled up in Katara's former space.*hm....has anyone heard from Katara in one way or another recently? I know she had to leave because of RL, but I was hoping she would keep in touch with one or two of us now and a gain to let us know how she is.

*Walks over to Emambu hold a strange machine. Before Emambu can protest, Archwolf fastens one end of a hose to Emambu's head, then flips the switch on a pumping device.*Don't worry, this won't hurt a bit. *After a few moments, the machine switches off. Archwolf holds up a half full jar* Hm....not much sanity to add there, huh? Well, now that the sanity has been collected, Welcome too the CR. Enjoy your stay!

Dubai>UAE!?! Sheesh..the fandom really DOES touch every part of the globe. *Repeats Sanity drain on Dubai* Hm...at this rate, it will be YEARS before we have enough sanity to buy the rights to Gargoyles.....piffle.

hmm...nothing else to add really. no, wait...forgot something. *Rushes over and gives SOROW a hug* Looked like ya needed it! Feel better soon(if not already...i think I am a few days behind in posting)

Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:57:21 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-40.mcmurray.nb.net

**TD SPOILERS**
Hmm. Just one question: when is the TD season finale? Good story. Brooklyn driving an old car? Hmm. Interesting. I just hope we pop up again and find out what happened to the family.
**END TD SPOILERS**

I had one mother cat and three kittens until one was ran over when it tried to cross the highway. The mother cat is white. The kitten that died was yellow/tan. One of the living kittins is white like its mother. The other one is mixed black and white.

**ANIMAL GENETICS**
What causes a kitten have some areas black and other areas white as opposed to being one percent gray? I think if we solve that problem, we can solve the problem of different gargoyle faces.
**END ANIMAL GENETICS**

**TRANSFORMER TOPIC**
My ideas are only to try and bring reason to being more beastlike. Of course, the Quints could always build this race, but somehow I doubt they would give them sufficient intelligence. On the other hand, this new race could acquire the knowledge through assimiliation.

I realize Megatron was really really stupid. He left Cybertron ready for conquest. That is why no one did it before.

I have heard people say "Optimus Prime" would have been against beast modes. I hate to argue would no one really knows what his opinion would have been. Can you give me some proof that the Decipticons were for individuality? Or is that conjecture (or worse, opinion)? And you forget about the G2 decepticons? I am just saying that it is possible. I think that the best way to "salvage" Beast Machines would to give transformers some reason to have beast modes. That is my aim. Once this challenge is met, it would be "safe" to go back to machine modes without violating continuity.
**END TRANSFORMER COMMENTS**

Warpmind - I was mocking McDonalds. ("Did somebody say McDonalds?") Seriously, why not do the program in Visual Basic? I took an Othello program that had no subroutines and rewrote to be easier to read for the programmer. Then i started to rewrite the program using VB for my gui and C for my intelligence (I ran into a snag because my computer does not have enough hard drive space to install any program that could compile a C program as a DLL file. I have only a one gigabyte harddrive.) It was way easier to do graphics in Visual Basic than in QBASIC.

Hmm. So far this post is two thousand four hundred bytes long.

**BFTS RP continues**
This occurs the same day after Plastique Saber makes the important phone call.

*ITAG HEADQUARTERS in a secret meeting with ITAG'S HQ*
"So we finally know what is causing the problems with communications technology."

"True. But how should we respond?"

"We do not at this present time. We let DPH and company take care of this threat."

"Speaking of which, DPH finally admitted to 'cheating'. How do we proceed?"

"Next time he wants an assignment, he will have to retake the test. I found it odd that he thinks Plastique Saber can do more."

"Very interesting indeed. We have conformation about that special ring in his possession. But seemed foolish in who he gave it to."

"Foolish, maybe. But according to what DPH told Plastique, the ring is not exactly ease to use. If DPH told Plastique the truth, we know understand the biggest reason why he never took the ring on an assignment."

"Yes, but that leaves us to wonder if there are more of such rings around."

"Did our search turn up anything about Winterwolf?"

"nothing. He is unknown to us. Should we tell Plastique Saber everything we know about DPH?"

"No. if we do that, we might not ever be able to get DPH to work for us again. He is too valuable."

"Even though he works occassionally, he is too valuable?"

"He is among the best of our list. He improves too much, however, he might be considered a threat to the free world."

"How so? It is not within his personality to conquer the world and he is powerfull to liberate anybody whom hostage takers could kidnap?"

"Brain washing. We have some people under 24 hour surivallance. If he gets too powerfull, he will have to watched twenty four hours a day."

"Some hackers have broken into our computers. Some of the information about DPH has been compromised."

"What information?"

"His known powers list."

"Should we warn Plastique?"

"It depends on who accessed the information."

"What about the Speed Stars?"

"We need to send a spy in the area so we can provide re-enforcements if things get out of hand."

"Agreed." says everybody in the room.

"Should we try to send in a spy into the Speed Stars?"

"Too dangerous. Our best hope of learning about them is to send a telepath to extract information while some of the members sleep."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 11:47:46 AM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

In case anyone is intersted, my pics from A-kon are now online. Go clicky clicky down on the name link or feed this addy into your browser
http://skippy_the_klingon.tripod.com/newstuff.html
Skippy The Klingon - [<-----My A-kon photo page!!!]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 07:13:02 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-01.ultravision.net

*Warpmind enters.*
Whoa, nice new TD episode. Good to see Celer safe, too. Maybe a little short, but I like it. :)

Gside: Celibacy is not hereditary, you say? I take it you never saw "Hot Shots 2" then; I quote: "These monks are all chaste men; they have never seen a woman before, just like their fathers, and their fathers before them..."

Shadowrider: The TIE Defender is great, yeah... But, I'm not going to go through the details of how I convinced Lord Vader to give me this one personally. To put it simply: that was one heck of a combat simulation we teamed up in... I made it. The two M/FRG and the M/CRV did not... ]:) I like the ion cannons. They're powerful. :)

DPH: I said QBASIC. :)

Gside/Wilek: Long words? "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" comes to mind...

Wilek: I've come up with some more additions to the maze (I have a vision of it as a great mansion); we'll have a room where the floor is underwater; there'll be a boat available, but it leaks. The point is to cross the indoors lake. The water will be plain water; no toxic contents or whatever. Oh, and we'll need a lot of those little urethra-parasite fish; the kind that swims up and lodges its spiky fins inside the victim's... uh, well, you know. Furthermore, we need a cozy, friendly-looking, inviting corridor. This corridor must be completely safe to stay in; no tricks, no traps, no nothing. This to play on the player's paranoia. :)

Green Baron: I got the e-mail, and I replied. But, the coming week may be a problem; I'll be on Lanzarote, and it's not certain that I'll be able to e-mail you from there. (If I were to guess, I'd say there'll be a chance, but I'm not sure of it.) But I'm sure we'll be able to work something out; if I print out a hardcopy, I'll be able to work on it by hand, and type later, eh? :)

Oracle: Um, you read too much into it. :| I'm not saying you have a closed mind; I'm saying that censorship, in all cases, is a Bad Thing (TM). However, I'm all pro rating. If we managed to get a decent universal rating system for cartoons, movies et cetera, there would indeed be no need for censorship. And, of course, when we get a decent rating system, we have GOT to get the Moral Minority out of the rating boards. An example is the <Censored> who decided that Gargoyles is to be have the violent scenes cut out... HEY! Who censored me? What a <Censored>! Hey, he did it again! ;)

Christine: Hey, I want to preorder Black Roses, too. So you go check if that's possible, 'kay? Please? :) Oh, and best of luck with the cat and the leg, if I haven't said so before.

*Warpmind places a .12 gauge shotgun against Winterwolf's temple.* Just when I had managed to forget that disgustingly memory-resident Gummi Bears theme, YOU had to reawaken it. I loathe you for that. *Points the shotgun at DC.* Of course, I don't make a habit of killing friends, or friends of friends, so I'll just waste DC instead. *Warpmind shoots, and a small smudge remains where DC stood.*

Well, that's it for now. See ya.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, June 8, 2000 05:57:42 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

**Janine enters wearing her purple pin-stripe three piece suit and purple felt hat.**

I everyone I just got home, I'm happy(for now), and I have two songs stuck in my head.

First song:
In sleep he sang to me
In dreams he came
That voice which calls to me
And speeks my name...

Second song:
Challenger of mystery
Champion of right
swoops out of the shadows
Darkwing of the night
Some where some villan schemes
But his numbers up...

Sorry had to get that out of my system:) On to the posty!

Brooklyn, Green Baron, Winterwolf> Sorry I missed you. Nathaniel and I went shoping and then out to dinner and I just got home. I don't know if I'll be able to get on tomorrow day but I'll be on around two or three am CR time.

Why turn the modem volume off. It has never been loud. Besides I don't know how.

Well time for bed all. See you guys and gals later. :)
Jnaine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 04:50:20 AM
IP: phx-211.treknet.net

*SPOILER, DARK AGES, LAST EPISODE, SEASON FINALE*
I LOVE the Dark Ages Series. The only thing that wasn't great is that Asrial is least alone. Can't TGS pair her up with someone? Maybe bring a new character in?
P.S- I know the Viking raid is coming but still, something to reasure us that its a happy ending?
Gail - [gail_dsilva@hotmail.com]
Dubai, --, UAE
Thursday, June 8, 2000 03:26:10 AM
IP: proxyd.emirates.net.ae

**SPOILER TIMEDANCER LATEST EP**
i was halfway through it before i realized that it wasn't a prologue! great job, guys!
btw, "who was that [un]masked man?"
**END SPOILER**

Rodlox
Thursday, June 8, 2000 03:00:53 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

****Begin RP------The Ten Saga*********

Feeling power rush through him, he righted himself, and skimmed the ground, flying back up, and landing on a small mound of boulders. Regeneration automatically started, thanks to the Big Guard Spell, as his ribs knitted back to their normal position. Looking out, he saw 4's overconfidence, but he was quite sure if he'd not been as lucky as he was, he'd be dead. This new...'bot, or so it seemed was ready for the challenge, so he somehow felt his message got out. Gasper looked internally, summoning up as much courage as he could, then dissapated, appearing to the right of Dragon Warrior.

"I have no clue who you are buddy, but thanks for the save." He looked to the side, staring directly up, which for him was a surprise considering the Dragoon's height, into a mechanical face that looked much like Shen Long's, only much different.

[It is no problem, I was on my way as well.] the suited being replied.

"Well, well, well, two for the price of one? Is that how you earthlings say it? No matter. This rock will be a cinder in less time it would take for me to polish my nails." 4 lowered her brow in concentration, and the earth below the two warriors feet started to violently quake. "Like I said to the other one," she directed her voice to DW, "I do not plan to leave. You killed a comrade of mine, and you will pay for it in spades." DW and Gasper looked at eachother.

[I assume you have some clue of what she is implying?]
"Nope, but looks like we're the only two here to rumble with her. Hope that tin can of yours can hold it's own, because I'm still seeing a couple stars." Nodding to the machine, he turned, and got into his fighting stance.
*******END RP*********

That should hold. I hope. Evening/Morning all. HOw ya doing? Just got done watching The Mummy. Highly recommend it.

Reboot today- A classic ep, probably right around the time where it starts to get REALLY serious. I like Serious, and I can't wait to see the movies, because those are gonna be sweet. IMDb has the cast, and it's everyone from the series, so we should have some similar voices.

Stephen- I hope your friend's luck and fortunes get better soon. I know the problems with PC's, mine likes to taste the Recovery Disk now and then...which makes me mad. For the zip drive. I assume it's Internal, but there might be a chance if you go to the website for Iomega, and you can get the drivers there...maybe. I know you can pick it up for the external drive, so there's some hope. Thought you might like to hear. Also, impressive you got your books signed by those two. They are great artists in their craft. I don't read the books anymore, but I had a ton of them. Good Job!

Lady Une--Hoo boy...this one is an interesting character. She changes a LOT during the whole run of eps. Mostly, if it's Glasses off, you will see her as St. Une, but GLasses on is Colonial(?) Une. One theory is that her glasses are posessed.

Zechs----Well, considering Gundam Wing is aimed towards getting more females interested in the whole series, they use pretty boys. Zechs, Trieze, the Gundam pilots...it's Sad...but it's still a great series. I can't wait to see DeathScythe HELL again soon. But basically, that's why Zechs/Milliardo has that hair....personally, I'd like to just behead the guy...he's even more screwed up then Lady Une.

Gunjack---Sounds like a TON of Square goodness! I can't wait till Chrono Cross...Buying a PSX, if I ever get my Paycheck....*Grumbles about Beaurucratic Red tape/processing.*

Anyway, I think that's all from me. Again, It'd be nice someday to have stats on 4, because I don't know who roleplays her Character. DW, hope my version of you was decent.

Later.

Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Thursday, June 8, 2000 02:36:58 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

<<An equally tired big-guy in the Big White Hat stumbles in, looking sad and somewhat happy too...>>

Greetings all... still in the process of restoring my computer: the good news of which is that a friend is getting me a copy of Office 97, so I can have my Word97 back to use to continue writing, and I have a new multi-button controller so I can play my games again.... the bad news is I haven't found my installation disks for my Zipdrive, so I still don't know if I either still have a backup of all my writings or not. Keep your fingers crossed for me though.

Also found out that my best friend from when I still lived in Florida has been hit with a double-whammy: because of medical conditions, his wife was recently fired from her job, and - unless I read his letter wrong - her father also just recently passed away, sucumbing to conditions due to fighting cancer... geez, my heart goes out to them. They've had a rough life recently.

As for the good news tonight, at our local Hastings they had a book signing event with - I kid you not! - Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman! Of course I got all of my Chronicles of Dragonlance books signed, and one of their Darksword hardcover books as well. But, because the lines were so long, they had a Q&A session while they were signing books. So I got to ask them their opinions on fanfic (as I always ask pro writers when I meet them). Turns out both they and - to an extent, don't quote them on this - and TSR/Wizards of The Coast consider Fan Fic cool, and would consider it a boon if people wrote stories about the worlds and characters they created.

I though that was refreshing to hear! :)

Well, that's all from me for now. Enjoy the new ep, and I'll update everyone later on my story status.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 02:10:29 AM
IP: m141.ieway.com

***A weary Kyryn steps into the room***

Gentlebeings,

We now present:

"Once I Built A Tower"

Written by Don A. "Coyote the Bando" Martinez and Jonathan "Entity" Cotleur

Artwork by Jessica Entis

***Kyryn staggers out of the way to avoid the rush, then heads off to bed***
Kyryn - [<<---clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Thursday, June 8, 2000 01:55:20 AM
IP: denm1-24.iglobal.net

Mara - the whole idea of fansubs is that they are FREE! You can find places all over the web that will get you fan subs. Just supply them the tape and a return postage envelope.

They will not make anymore tapes after an american release date is set.

If you find someone who is renting or SELLING fan subs. I know some fan subbers who want to get their hands on them.
CrzyDemona - [<----- Fan Sub information!]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 01:41:30 AM
IP: 209.150.94.78

*Valentine staggers in looking wasted, and glances briefly at the posts...*

I've learned something this last week: I really don't know how to take things slow.
No matter what I do, I Hardline it 'till I'm about to croak... Take this last weeki as an example.
I missed A-Kon, but a friend and I spent about ten hours a day playing Japanese RPGs. Cleared Parasite Eve and Granstream Saga, knocked out 30+ hours of recorded time on Front Mission 3 (excellent game!), got in good pieces of Lunar Complete and Breath of Fire 3, and a garnish of FF8... I'm not gonna be able to look a phosphor screen in the face for a couple weeks... :P

I'll try to get a real post or two in before the axe falls, but for now, just a few notes...

Gside - Loved Michigian Militia! One question, though... Was the end supposed to be chopped off by a piece of California Dreaming? Also, could you give me the addresses for some sites where I could find emulators of the FF series? I remember you mentioning this earlier, but I missed the address...

Shadowrider - If you sent me an email last week, it didn't arrive... If so, it's probably my fault... :P Anyway, maybe we can finish the debate when we both have some free time...

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 01:38:00 AM
IP: nas-89-15.dallas.navipath.net

SJ- Lady Un is skitso. When she wears the glasses, she's super biotch. When her hair is down and no glasses, she's super pacifist. And when she first splits her personalities, she isn't aware they both exist. Of course, this wasn't revealed until like episode 17 or so...

By the by, you will enjoy Gundam a lot I think, assuming you can catch it every night. While you can miss an episode or three of DBZ and not miss much, missing a Gundam episode will usually throw you way off.
Robby
Thursday, June 8, 2000 12:52:19 AM
IP: spider-ti071.proxy.aol.com

Kaioto and Winterwolf... check your e-mail :) *hugs*
SOROW - [jim.abadie@prodigy.net]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 12:22:09 AM
IP: dll2a010-0605.splitrock.net

Too small a post to use an image. ;)

Emambu> The URL for the TD story Abandonment is http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/td/season3/abandonment.htm
You can get there from the current episode link but the path has a typpo if you try to go in from the season 3 link.

TGS Staff> The link to Abandonment on the TimeDancer page has a typo.

Bye bye!
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Thursday, June 8, 2000 12:13:30 AM
IP: dialup-63.210.213.112.newyork1.level3.net

Real quick tonight--

Hey Robby, you watch Gundam Wing religiously, right? I'm *attempting* to get into it, so I got a question. Is Lady Unn just completely brainwashed, with multiple personalities, or what? One minute she's cute little diplomat, the next she's "let's castrate them with our teeth" sci-fi warrior princess. I'm a bit confused here.

Oh, and speaking of feminine men, chalk Zekks up there. Give him a dress and some lipstick, he'd really look like Relena's twin--twin sister, rather.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, June 8, 2000 12:12:28 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Brooklyn: "Thanks a bunch for pointing out the brownies!! They're nummy!!!!!:D Anybody got any milk? "

*smacks forehead* D'oh! I knew I forgot something. :) I wish I could post here more often but I'm busy with graduation so my visits here are reduced to once every other day or so. I am enjoying this forum BTW. All the members of the board seem to show respect for each other. I really like how you are able to have debates in a controlled manner without degrading yourselves down to a level of immature yelling. That's not something I see in too many other forums.

Speaking of which, Kyryn, Aaron, and Green Baron: Thanks for the welcomes!

Rodlox: "okay, here's an idea i may or may not be able to use, so i'm posting it here: for one reason or [an]other, Castaway is dependant on a Gargoyle."

Sounds like a good idea to me. It makes sense too. Without Gargoyles, there's no need for someone like Castaway to be in the position of power that he was in.

TD Question: I clicked on the link to "Abandonment" in an attempt to save it to my Hard Drive. However, I got a message saying that the file didn't exist. Is anyone else experiencing this? Thanks in advance,

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Thursday, June 8, 2000 12:03:17 AM
IP: spider-te024.proxy.aol.com

**A ghostly Winterwolf appears in the CR. After a few minutes he goes from being transparent to normal. It seems he is carrying a special high-powered rifle. He shoots a rocket at DC and locks him down. Now you can't stop me from posting DC. I'll be generous and leave your fate up to the next CR member to enter. :p**

Hi! I want to add my thoughts. I like Pinky and the Brain. It's quite high on my entertainment scale, but one reason I still say Animaniacs as an all time favorite is that it includes Pinky and the Brain. Also I definitely can't stand the fact that they included Elmyra at a certain point. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky with technicalities.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

That night, same day DPH arrived home.

DHP watched Winterwolf with interest. There was so much he didn't know about him. He also wondered about Rodlox. He pushed those thoughts aside for the moment. Winterwolf was more interesting because he had some powerful magic auras around him. DPH watched him go into the kitchen and was surprised to see his five cats dart after him. He got up out of his chair and went to the kitchen to see what was going on. He saw the food dish for his cats had several pieces of fresh fish in it. "Have you been feeding my cats fresh fish all this time you've been here?"

Winterwolf turned to face DPH and answered, "No actually it didn't happen that first night. It was an arrangement that we came to the third day after I arrived. They watch the house and show me what's going on so I can protect the place. In return I give them the food they want and gently stoke them when I'm not bust or sleeping."

DPH noticed he had one in his arms now and was lightly stoking the cat on the back. "How do they show you what's going on?"

"Simple. I can see whatever they see. Do you wan to try it?"

DPH was curious to see Winterwolf work some magic. "Okay. Show me what they see."

Winterwolf places a finger on DPH's forehead and lightly draws a symbol of an eye. Once he removes his finger DPH finds he can see a pair of eyes other than his own. As he thinks about each of his cats his view changes to match the appropriate cat.

"How do I stop this?" DPH asks.

Winterwolf closes the eye he drew. He places his hand on DPH's forehead just where the top of the eye would have been and moves his hand down to where the bottom of the eye would have been. "Now I've closed you mind's eye that can see what other's see. Now, it's the same as it was before I opened it. I'm going to go to sleep in one of the bedroom's upstairs now." With that he left DPH in the kitchen

DPH was troubled. As far as he could tell Winterwolf did not cast a spell. Yet he was temporarily given a magical link to his cats. He would definitely need to keep and eye on Winterwolf and speak with him about it once he knew what to say. DPH was especially curious about his powers thermal reduction.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Gside> <Norman Rockwell painting popped into my mind> Really? I didn't know he did one of a winterwolf. ;) <<< Fire Storm> <<What is King Arthur's reaction to Monty Python and the Holy Grail?>>: Hasn't that been mentioned at least once in Pendragon? for some reason, my mind wants to say yes.>>> Actually I think this has been a running gag. I remember reading it in at least three separate Pendragon stories. Might have been as many as six! ^_^

DPH> In the RP you have five cats. I was wondering do you have five cats in RL? If no, do you have any cats? If yes, how many? If 1 + 1 < 2 = 1, what kind of cats are they?

Brooklyn and David G and Green Baron> I hear a song coming on! :) I'll give you a brief version from memory:

Dashing and daring
Courageous and caring
Faithful and friendly with stories to share
All through the forest they sing out in chorus
Marching along there song fills the air
Gummi Bears bouncing here and there and everywhere
High adventure that's beyond compare
They are the Gummi Bears
They are the Gummi Bears

Janine> <computer in my room> Cool. I think someone already mentioned this but be sure to set the modem for silent mode. It was probably Gside the engineer. Hope to catch you later. I'm not going to be on as late tonight though. :(

Gside the engineer> I had to post this after that reference. Do you multiply the amount of time it will take you to do something by 3? That would be to achieve miracle worker status of course. ;)

Niamhgold> **Winterwolf beams a warm smile at the lovely, talented and caring Niamhgold.** I understand. You and Shadowrider are my friends and I wouldn't intentionally say anything mean to either of you. As for the fanfic email comments I'm sending it is my pleasure. More will definitely be on the way. I would love to have a slice of your flag cake! The 14th! That's only one more week. Are you psyched? ^_^

SOROW> :( What's wrong? Maybe the Gummi Bears song will cheer you up? What can I do to make you feel better? **Winterwolf gives SOROW a comforting hug to feel better and leaves a chocolate ice cream and a box of plastic spoons and bowls in the CR.**

Good night! I have to wake up extra early tomorrow so in the words of the Terran Ghost from StarCraft "I'm gone."

**Winterwolf shoots DC with a fresh missile to keep him paralyzed for someone to play with. Then he cloaks and leaves the CR.**

Nuclear Launch detected! - Just Kidding! ;)

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:56:13 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.91.45.newyork2.level3.net

DPH - You wrote: [They are still both Autobot, Decipticon, Maximal, and Predacon colonies out there.]

Even the Vehicon faction is still workable.

You wrote: [Frankly, BM Megatron could have gone further.]

Not by much. He starts off in victory - he's in control of the planet and all the sparks. And the plan he implied by the end of the second season was pretty much as far as he could go.

GREG BISHANSKY - You wrote: [BM Megatron was insane though and not worthy of any connection to the Decepticons.]

I've always figured that it was the original Megatron who helped drive BW Megatron into that BM level of insanity. After all if there are two sparks in the same body then on some level wouldn't there be some sort of merger? Not complete, not in the TigerHawk way, but in some way to allow them to coexiste in the same body. Now imagine what BW Megatron must have felt after G1 Megatron was removed, ending such a mini-merger. It must have snapped him in some way. And it would explain a lot of what he does in BMS2.

ROBBY - You wrote: [How the heck did you get ahold of TRY anyway? Only the first few episodes are available in America legally right now.]

Let's just say that you can find a lot of great subtitled anime if you wander around Chinatown for a while.

The quality though isn't that great so I'm waiting for the collected editions to come out first on video and then on DVD. (I should have a DVD player by the time that happens - Please God!)

About TRY let me just say that it is as great as the reports say. It's got a much more serious bent to it than the other two series though- the comedy is still there but the past events described and the threat the group is facing overshadows it at times. The tension especially in the last 10 episodes really stands out - don't pick this up unless you can get the entire series in one shot.

You wrote: [They discarded the Vok plotline]

True. But on the other hand there wasn't any way for them to really deal with the Vok since they couldn't ever get to them - they needed the Vok to come to them.

The Maximals could have assumed that Vok interest in the planet was finished after having lost two of their own people when Tartanulus died. Or they could have just assumed that all the Vok died when Tarantulus died. It's not above Optimus Primal to make such a leap in logic. He did it a lot in BWS3 and all the time in BM.

You wrote: [The plotline with Tarrantulus and the tri-predicus council]

Tarantulus died and the Tri-Predacus council could have been taken by BM Megatron when he conquered Cybertron. How is not really difficult to figure - they held Megatron in low esteem and it would be in character of him to go after them after having gotten control of Cybertron - it would be even more so in character after having gone completely insane in the gap between the two series.

You wrote: [Starscream's revenge]

He was floating away from Earth when we last saw him so this could have taken a real long time. It could still happen in the next series. (And anyway didn't Starscream swear that he would get revenge on everyone he lost to?)

You wrote: [And most importantly... The stasis pods. Sooo... The maximals just left a couple dozen stasis pods floating around Earth's atmosphere? Sure.]

They left Waspinator there didn't they?

(It could be figured that maybe all the remaining stasis pods were just blanks. And it could be that they did retrieve them - they spent enough time on the planet after NEMESIS 2 to find Waspinator. So there is a time gap existing during which they could have cleaned everything up.

And after all that there is the question of why they really strapped Megatron - dangerous, insane, and powerful - to the outside of the ship? Maybe because the inside was full of stasis pods?)
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:52:06 PM
IP: 114.new-york-30-35rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Oracle: I know the rule "if you put your nuts on the table, be prepaired to have them crushed." ;) I come to expect to get yelled at and burned at the stake. Still, if all people did was complain and never propose any actual Steps or Actions to improve things, nothing would ever get done. I'll risk being preachy, because the status quo sucks and the only way to change it is if you and me make a change in the way we effect the world around us.

SSJ: What!? That�s horrible! *sighs*

Well, you can probably replace a lot of your stuff like ICQ and AIM and Netscape on free downloads � but your Buddy Lists are probably crashed. :( The stories though � if you have the zip-disks they really aren�t gone. You could always by or borrow another zip-drive from someone or get the file from someone else � it may be tedious, but it isn�t irreparable. Don�t give up hope, man! Hang in there.

Sorrow: My AOL SN is �Kaioto� if you or anyone needs to talk about something or just goof off. *hugs* I�ll try my best to be helpful, but I�m afraid I�m not the most lively of company. -_-``

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:51:45 PM
IP: 1cust250.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Robby:: I can't vouch for the third season, TRY, having not seen it myself, but all reports say that its actually BETTER, which frightens me a little. (How the heck did you get ahold of TRY anyway? Only the first few episodes are available in America legally right now...)

The key word is "legally". I've had all seven volumes of the subtitled TRY since roughly January or February. And while the fansubs usually have in huge blazing script NOT FOR SALE OR RENT, you'd be amazed what you can get in Chinatown for about 5-10 dollars each.

Hee hee.. I love my Anime Dealer. He recommends the best stuff and sneaks me free fansubs.
Mara Shinigami Cordova
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:46:14 PM
IP: spider-we082.proxy.aol.com

I think the Happy Queen might just have to give up her title. I'm depressed.... a lot. Does anyone have the time to cheer me up?
SOROW
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:33:22 PM
IP: dll2a010-0363.splitrock.net

Patrick > "Broadway Bound and Gagged" -- uh ... well, I sure don't see Elektra playing a part in that ... and I've already got a certain someone petitioning for "Corwin on the Island of Amazon Women" ... so I think that'd be a no, on my part ; )

Green Baron > re: pre-ordering Black Roses, I have no idea, but if possible I will be sure to let you know!

Updates: the cat's doing okay, and so far (knock on wood) we've been lucky getting the meds down her throat. My ankle is purple and green but painless, which is ugly but an improvement. I finished "Lylth" and will be posting it as well as a bunch of fabulous new pics tomorrow!

Christine
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:28:44 PM
IP: 16-195.009.popsite.net

robby do agree with your points on beast wars/machines. except for one thing. all the stasis pods crashed to earth after the 2 moon exploded. Now what happened to them then well???????
Anonymous
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:06:05 PM
IP: host-216-78-82-3.cha.bellsouth.net

okay, here's an idea i may or may not be able to use, so i'm posting it here:

for one reason or [an]other, Castaway is dependant on a Gargoyle.

{and we thought Payne was annoying}....

how's that? {actually, almost any Quarrymen can do}.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 10:44:55 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Greetings all... just a little news to report, I have my computer back. But, the bad part is I've lost EVERYTHING! ICQ, Netscape, AIM, everything! And unless I can find the install disk for my Zip, I'll have lost all of my stories and fanfics too... ugh! This had to happen now, of all times!

Anyway, will report back after tonight, with news that all is not lost (I hope).

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 10:05:40 PM
IP: m126.ieway.com

*peeks her head back in* O.o Oye crikey.. Two ppl who can rant on and on. *looks at Kioto and then in the mirror*

Green Baron> Yah, mebby I should post more, but I don't. Mostly because I'd rather read than type. I'm not the type of person to post 15 different things to 18 different ppl. And I have posted before, but just when I see a topic I'd like to comment on. *shrugs* So call me picky.

Kioto> Mebby you should just join a debate team eh?
"Please be careful in what you say. I�m sure you weren�t trying to tell me what opinions I can and can�t
hold, what opinions I can and can�t voice."
Nope, I wasn't. Just when you tell ppl that "this is what should be done because of blah blah blah", then you should also expect someone to tell you you're full of doggy doo. You can sprout your opinions about anything, but no matter what topic it is you're talking about, if you try and make an opinion sound matter of fact, then its gonna be bashed somehow.
I'm one of those ppl to just plop my butt down and actually say what I'm thinkin. You're could be my best friend and if you got a lousy hair-do, I'm gonna tell ya you need to get your money back. Just the way I am. Just ask JarJar...er...Jannie. O.o She has some horror stories to tell you. eesh.

Warpmind> "So, if you're saying parents should teach their kids acceptance of other peoples' preferences, maybe we should ensure they do so with an open mind, as well?"
If you're saying that I have a closed mind, I don't. I wasn't trying to say that censorship is good, screw everyone who thinks otherwise. Just saying that we can toss crud on TV, radio or any other public medium and just expact ppl to accept it. Sorry, can't do that. There has to be an understanding between both sides of the censorship agruement. There has to be a happy medium and its becomming harder and harder to do that because as time goes on, we as humans have to change, and we usually change not for the better. Atleast not in America..

Eeegads. Look I did it again. *stops*

Oracle
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 09:43:34 PM
IP: dyn1-tnt2-124.milwaukee.wi.ameritech.net

Hey guys!:)
Robby>
Don't get me wrong I like Ducktales it is just there could of been more plot developement.
Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes:)
Well that will probably be about it!
C-YA tommorow!
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 09:40:50 PM
IP: usr85.cqc.com

Oracle:

<>

I�m not a heroine junkie either, but I hold the opinion that it would be a Bad Thing (TM) in most foreseeable future. ;)

Please be careful in what you say. I�m sure you weren�t trying to tell me what opinions I can and can�t hold, what opinions I can and can�t voice. Feel free to tell me that I�m wrong. You can Show me that I�m wrong. You can accuse me of having an uniformed opinion. You can call me a hypocrite. But PLEASE, don�t tell me I don�t have the right to form an opinion, and that is Literally what you DID tell me when you typed.

I�m not going to go psycho over this or anything. I�m not going to stop being friends with anyone over it. I�m just going to point it out for posterity�s sake because I�m compulsive that way: I have the right to my opinion, no matter how fat, drunk, and stupid I go through life.

Anyway, I think I gave you got the wrong idea of in the first place. I never meant to put undue judgment and burdens on the parents. While I may go out of my way to judge Society as a whole 8 or 9 times an hour, I�m not here to pass judgment on parents. I�m trying to point out that every adult in society has an impact in influencing children as they grow up. I�m trying to show where our responsibility lies as adults: as role-models for children who are aspiring to someday be adults.

Even seasoned parents don�t have the perfect recipe for kids or anything. Neither do I. I can�t guaranty success in raising children. I never claimed to. I�m just pointing out where some of the focal points of influence on children are, and the responsibility that influence puts on us.

It is difficult to raise children in this day and age, very difficult.

The contributing factor to that is Society at large. We have to take responsibility as older brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, teachers, political leaders, programming directors, and just average Americans for the environment we create around us. That environment, that huge churning social engine, will be one of the primary influences on a child�s life, and we are ALL a part of Society.

<<�Sorry to break it to you, but children are harder to control than you think. They will do what they want and you have to let them to a degree.�>>

I agree with you. I�ve Vehemently argued in here dozens of times that you Can�t program human beings. It is like trying to run Claris Works on DOS 4.0. It just doesn�t work. ^_^ I�m just saying we should do our best with the considerable influence we have in their lives.

<<�Unfortunately, you can talk and listen to a child till you're blue in the face, but if this child is somehow already heading down a certain [direction], the only thing that will happen is that he'll be more informed.�>>

You are right again. Like I already said, getting the Truth through to a kid is more than telling them the facts. Facts make your children more informed. Truth gives them the opportunity to mature. No every kid will accept that opportunity. Yes, you can talk until you are blue in the face and they won�t listen. You know what? Most of the time, that Isn�t Enough.

Children learn very strongly by example, this much is proven by science as fact. Well, you can talk all you want about the evils of so many things in this world, but let a child see all his role-models (including you) going against what you say, and see how long he or she stays away from that kind of behavior. Worst of all, at some point, your child may turn around as an adolescent start getting into conflict with you. He or she will start shutting out your lectures and punishments. Then where are they going to turn to figure out their identity as young people?

The truth is that those people who children and young people look up to are � Adults �. Sure, some of us grow up just fine even in the most horrible influences, but that doesn�t negate the responsibility of being a good influence.

One of the primary points I was and am still trying to make is that the first and most important thing we can do to improve conditions for the youth of America is for adults in this country need to start acting their age.

What kind of examples are we setting when all kids see the grown-ups doing is lying, cheating, stealing, and hurting each other? What kind of message does it send when the �successful� and our �leaders� are all just those who excel the most at exploitative behavior, get away with the most irresponsible actions, or indulge in narrow-minded fanaticism?

All I�m saying is THINK. Think about the examples we all set in our lives. The mores of our culture are going to be the way most young people define as the standards of maturity. Children aspire to get the respect and privileges that come with status as a �grown-up� and they are going to learn to act like the grown-ups in one way or another. It is each of our responsibilities as �Grown-ups� � adult members of society � to set a good example with our culture.

Raising a decent kid is hard enough these days without a bunch of jackasses all around showing a kid that they really don�t ~ Have ~ to be decent individuals to succeed or be accepted as adults. It is even worse when you have to explain to your child that this particular jackass is his or her older sibling, the person who signs your paycheck, or even the President of the United States.

I�ll agree with you, not every kid needs to have all the complicated things in life shoved on them. But it is very dangerous to ignore the issues too long. Do you want children growing up learning from older kids and each other�s misinformation? That�s how most kids I knew learned about drugs, starting in the 6th grade or so � and that�s in the sheltered land of suburbia.

No, the primary way to help the development of our children is not keeping them ignorant as long as possible; it is insuring that when they do learn about �mature� issues, the education they receive about life is the quality that only caring parents/guardians and a conscientious adult population can provide.

The world these kids grow up in is one of their biggest influences. That world is Our Responsibility, right now. Every one of us contributes to it. I feel is time for America to wake up from the little nap we�ve been taking and pick up the ball. It is time for these successive �ME� generations to stop their little self-absorbed machinations, their blame-games, and this �Someone else will deal with it� mentality and step up to the plate. We�ve got an influence. That influence comes with responsibility.

Whether we wanted it or not, whether we called for it or not, whether we choose to accept it or not, the ball is in our court.

I said it once and I�ll say it again, �It takes the Village to make a Village Idiot.�
Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 08:51:29 PM
IP: 1cust187.tnt2.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

*Robby walks in humming... "Birdy the mighty, sentinal of liberty..."*

Aaron- Oh, all right... A-kon list. I'd forgotten about doing that.

First night hotel expenses- 15 dollars
Food for 4 days- About 30 dollars
7 new anime videos and a Slayers soundtrack- 130 dollars
Seeing Aaron at the auction jump up and yell "I have a place to sleep tonight, gas in the car, and a guaranteed meal tommarrow, I can do this ALL NIGHT LONG!" to get a picture of Asuka opening a can of whoop ass- Priceless

By the by, don't feel too badly about not realizing Gourry was Brock. I had to see quite a few episodes of Pokemon before I realized Brock was Gourry. (I had started getting Slayers long before Pokemon came out... The real scary part is Amelia voices Ash Ketchum...) And its Shabranigdo.

And it was Kento of Hardrock from ROnin Warriors doing the Whiskey in a Jar filk.

Airwalker- Slayers NEXT was the second Slayers series, and currently holds its place as my favorite animated series ever, above even Reboot, Gargs, DBZ and Beast Wars. (No easy task.) I can't vouch for the third season, TRY, having not seen it myself, but all reports say that its actually BETTER, which frightens me a little. (How the heck did you get ahold of TRY anyway? Only the first few episodes are available in America legally right now...)

As far as Beast Machines... They discarded the Vok plotline, the plotline with Tarrantulus and the tri-predicus council, Starscream's revenge, and most importantly... The stasis pods. Sooo... The maximals just left a couple dozen stasis pods floating around Earth's atmosphere? Sure.

(And incidentally, on Reboot, those two characters were supposed to be Mulder and Scully parodies... Gillian Anderson even provided the voice for Nully...)

Sailor Moon- Really the only thing I've seen that will have to be severely edited is the episode where Jupiter lusts after one of the new scouts, even after finding out she is not a he. Almost everything else can be covered with crafty dialouge edits.

Of course, there was that really WIERD episode at the last SAAS meeting where Tuxedo Mask seemed to be hitting on Mercury or something...

Brooklyn- Hey, I loved Ducktales. A show doesn't HAVE to evolve from episode to episode to be good. The entire Disney afternoon for years was like that, and it was good stuff.
Robby
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 08:11:50 PM
IP: spider-te033.proxy.aol.com

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Anonymous
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 07:42:53 PM
IP: usr85.cqc.com

This'll teach to just double check the first screenlength for new posts when I'm making a correction and dealing with what just came in.

Green Baron> <<Where have you been? I guess you're out of school, since you're never on-line>>: I am online, but I'm lazy, so I forget/don't bother turning on AIM. Perhaps I should start. I am home though (as evidenced by my change in IP).

Janine> Just remember to mute the modem.

Hopefully this should be my last post until tomorrow (more likely the official day after).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Hair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:43:47 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

This is guaranteed to ruin at least one or two peoples day. I was at Hastings and they had the novelization of the new X-Men movie silver grey book with red X-men in the center. No I didn't buy it. $7.00 is not in the budget when I have more important things to do.
Starsinger
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:32:58 PM
IP: proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net

Just wanted to correct my last post before I got mobbed by irate clowns. It should have been Dr. Krakko (no extra a).

Niamhfold> <<Well, whadaya know--I thought that concept just
applied with me and _my_ brother>>: And you do not have the guarrantee of that one chromosome.
<>: Just whack him upside the head a couple times.
<<Heck, maybe I'll come across your bro's actual works one day>>: Always a chance, one of his ex-roomies has already been published (in Hustler (no, not that way (I think))).
<<Does his school sponsor student art exhibits?>>: I know there is at least one, the Puck Show (named after the building), which my brother and his roomies all got into (they only pick a few students from each department).
<<he just should have been *made* from a fish egg>>: Mm, cariar.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:30:03 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Winterwolf: Hi! I'm sorry if it sounded like I was reprimanding you for saying sorry to me--which is really strange, since I'm supposed to be the chronic apologetic :) I took it as a joke, actually--but I wasn't sure if _you'd_ meant it as a joke. Like Shadowrider, I took no offense, but instead found myself chuckling (again, because *I'm* usually the one apologizing...not the other way around :)) Hoo, boy...I'm not good at this kind of thing! ^_^
Got your e-mail--I'll write you a reply when I get the chance. I can't tell you how much the time and effort you're putting into this means to me! (You get first dibs on flag cake)

Shadowrider: Hiya! Well, my B-day's on the 14th of June--but in America, it's also known as Flag Day. Thus, the flag cake :)

Gside: < Heh. I'm halfway convinced we only share one chromosome > Well, whadaya know--I thought that concept just applied with me and _my_ brother. But, I think my brother's the one who's not going to end up with a brain--he's been caught skipping school more times than I can count, is taking math, english, and science classes two grades lower than his grade level, thinks books are a waste of paper (buys magazines because they have pictures) and, though he's fifteen, has gone eight years without knowing his friends' last names--which is heck when he's looking for a phone number! As for the illustration directory--Out of your brother's stock, I think I liked Brnthpriest the best. And, I forgive your for the ugly 9 :) Heck, maybe I'll come across your bro's actual works one day. Does his school sponsor student art exhibits?

Janine: Marine Biology? A very, very good field. My best friend Colin has been involved in that since the day he was hatched (I say hatched since he just should have been *made* from a fish egg). Every summer he goes down to the Caribbean and works with an environmental company that's studying coral reeves. His basement is filled to the brim with every fish tank imaginable (He creates living art with anemones, seaweed, and the color-coded fish); of course, his father wasn't happy the day the five-foot tall tank broke and flooded his office :0

Rodlox: Sure, wouldn't mind having a clan named after me--if you could figure out what that clan would look like! (I'm starting to wonder what a bunch of Niamhgold's would even *act* like :) I'll have to go back and read your stories--I don't get to the archive much, and I probably didn't see when you posted. I'll give some ratings!

Methinks that be all,

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:16:46 PM
IP: lac-flex147.ncia.net

Brooklyn>sorry the message was for Green Baron.

Green Baron> Lawrence wishes you to E-mail him.

Sorry Lawrence(sp?).

This is so cool I hooked up my computer to my room line. My office is being remolded and I had to take the computer totally off line. Well I set up the entire thing in my room. My parents don't know yet and I'm not entirely sure how they will react but its cool for now! Well gotta go.

TTFN
Janine - [Purple_Pixy]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:07:28 PM
IP: phx-221.treknet.net

RP WARNING!!!
**Dublin, Ireland
With Attila gone, the Catholic schoolgirl scouts are without missions, until they learn of the coming of the Ten. The five decide to seperate and organize a resistance to fight the Ten.

Brigittie is in a modest home with David Hume, Gerry Adams, and David Trible, along with some otehr less well-known Irish public figures.

"Well, Brigitte. It seems we should set aside our differences in Ulster to fight the Ten. I have managed to break off from the IRA, however only half have followed me."

"The same is true for me. Paisley has taken half of my men," sighs Trimble, "but those were the fanatics as thsoe who have not followed Gerry."

"Well, I'm glad we have some. It'll be nice to have Green and Orange together against a common foe. I just want the violence over," says Hume.

"As we all do boys. Now, we must start planning. The Ten will be here and so will Cromwell and Paisley," motions Brigitte as she ends the meeting and smiles as Gerry Adams and David Trimble are finally shaking hands and in the same room talking.**
PAUSE RP!!

Shadowrider> I guess I should be fortunate to be getting my salary and all those benefits you mentioned. I need to read yoru fanfic, but first I must MST the evil Nathans fic and its filled with more grammatical errors than my teachers would ever tolerate.

Lady Foxglove> I hope to see you more often, though you're never on-line.

Wilek> <<Paul *Allan* Nathans...? o_O >> That's the guy. I wonder how he'll flame us :)

Welcome Embabu

SOROW> I see now. I should have guessed you had more brothers. My Marketing Professor was in the Army Band back in the 70s.

Cyborg> ::hugs::

Warpmind and Spacebabie> I hope you got my e-mail. I will start my MST contributions tommorrow night since I have a Business Ethics exam to study for tonight.

Daniel Johnson> My cats have killed countless squirrels, if that makes you happy.

Christine> When I listen to it. I'll let you know :) Can we pre-order it at G2K like we did in 98?

Gside> Where have you been? I guess you're out of school, since you're never on-line.

Jannie> Well, those of us in uptown New Orleans are a definite exception to those rednecks in your joke :p

Bronx> ::hugs and kisses:: A truly funny Top 10. Please e-mail me the last two :)

Taleweaver> Animation became about money, but the real culprit was Planet of the Apes. I wish I kept those action figures, though and in good condiotion. They'd make a great investment :)

Firestorm> New Orleans is a nice old fashioend city that was a Metropolis back when Detroit, Chicago, and CLEVELAND were little fur trapping settlements so it definitely has some beautiful old areas, along with lots of run down places. St. Charles Ave is where soem of teh best mansions are, along with the Garden District. The streetcar will show you much of it, but only a portion of the Garden District that meets St. Charles Ave. Those are among the best parts of the city to look at. The suburbs are plain, but Old Metarie is decent. The Westbank is full of cheesy sub-humans along with a netherland called Chalmette :)

Rodlox> Geoffrey Fieger is a bigoted jerk who ran for Governor of Michigan and was the lawyer for Dr. Kevorkian. As his lawyer, he insulted those opposed to euthanaisa, like calling Cardinal Maida nutty, the Pope an (expletive) in a three foot hat, as well as calling Jesus soem gofo who got aniled to a cross and comapring Orthodox rabbis to Nazis. Firestorm and Coyote are from Michigan and can you fill you in much further.

Janine> I'm around. I just have summer classes. I hope you're prepared for the responsibilities of moving out.

Oracle> Well, you're among few I know that disagree with Kaioto :) I hope you post more often, though. It doesn't look sporting to delurk just to respond to Kai.

Galaxy High> Yeah, I remember this show. It brings back memories, even had serious themes, like the one with the brain blasters.

Kaioto> Good points brought up. I think parents should be more responsible with their kids (my father was too busy drinking to care about his son), though I think TV has its discretion about what to post and when. Some stuff is deemed controversial. That's due to our puritanical roots, mainly and that the me generation of the sixties were not half the parents their hard-working loving, monogamous, WWII participating parents were.

Luckily, our generation has learned soem lessons from the boomers, or in soem cases, the grandchildren of boomers are learning these lessons.

Also, Oracle is right that children will not always follow their parents, but parenst shoudl still do what must be doen to enforce parental law and Child Protection Overeactors be damned. Though I think you would be a good father, you should be careful about criticizing parents too much. I have a lot of criticism to both my parenst, and luckily they never followed trip like Dr. Spock, and I imagine my kids will have many complaints with me. The best thing we can do is to act responsible and if a couple isn't ready for the full responsibilities of a kid, use birth control, even if you're Catholic (it would only be a venial sin for us).

I may one day be a parent and I know I won't be perfect. I doubt I'll even earn my kids' love (especially with my ruthless methods of enforcement), but as long as they prove to succedd and have the proper virtues taught to them, I guess I'll have done my part.

Now, I've lost what I was originally saying. Oh never mind :)

<<�It takes a village to make a Village Idiot.� >>
I must say I like this quote. And Hillary is the Village Idiot :)

Sailor Moon> Well, its all Ted Turner's fault, really :) Blame him for all the censorship, because he's an evil bigot and his wife is a traitor :) j/k

Well, I'll be happy to see the new shows anyway and I can always get the subbed stuff elsewhere, though not without any variable costs.

Gummi Bears> Don't knock em. Greg Weisman was one of the people who worked on Gummi Bears.

Now, I am off. May all of you have a good day or night as it is now appraoching.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:01:10 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Winterwolf> <>: For some reason, that Normon Rockwell painting popped into my mind.

Wilek> <<preferably a long one, like pneumoultramicroscpicsilicovolcanoconiosis>>: Is hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian good enough?
<<Or enough Mega Man games>>: depends on which version you are working with.
<<Demonic clowns had invaded my house>>: Are there other kinds? Seriously, I've worked with clowns, and they're not bad at all (and Dr. Karakko can fix your back after carrying a heavy brass object with your neck for two miles).

Shadowrider> <<these are things I can'f find on grammar books>>: And therein lies the problem, but but just pay attention to other English written works, and you should be able to pick up these connotations.

Cyborg> <<Shirow is the gcreator of _AppleJack_>>: I have heard of Appleseed, but not Applejack.

Aaron> <<My new code word for Fast Forward is "Plot!">>: But you don't want to miss any big booms (extrapolating to other genres (manely the "Blow'd Up" type of movie).

Now for the much delayed mp3. Inspired by Fire Storm, I give you California Dreaming by The Mamas and the Papas. I could also give you the Beach Boys version, but too much dreaming can be a bad thing.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 06:00:28 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Brooklyn> No hard feelings at all. :)

In an all text format, it's kind of hard to convey your exact tone. I was trying to be slightly humorous. I liked Voltron as a kid. It's just as an adult that I think Gummi Bears was better.

Now that you mention it, Gummi Bears and Gargoyles did have some things in common. Not all that surprising, I suppose. Greg Weisman (lord, I hope I spelled that right) has said Gummi Bears was one of the things that inspired him to do Gargoyles.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 04:55:07 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Sorry:(
David G>
I didn't mean to say Gummi Bears was bad, I loved Gummi Bears as a kid. Come to think about the show did have a lot more going for it than I was willing to give it credit for!No hard feelings? Thinking you are the last of your kind isn't exactly a foreign concept for the show we talk about here! And you had to respect them for staying behind when they could have looked for Gummi's! Wow after giving it some thought the two show aren't that much different!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 04:32:44 PM
IP: usr85.cqc.com

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Brooklyn - [m]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 04:25:51 PM
IP: usr85.cqc.com

Brooklyn> I can't believe you'd call Voltron good and Gummi Bears bad.

Gummi Bears had a lot going for it, if you could get past the toxic cuteness. The characters DID evolve, and their personal problems were as important as the external threats they faced. Rather than just killing things with a blazing sword (after being beat up for ten minutes for no good reason) they used cleverness and creativity. There was a whole cool Coming of Age angle, and an interesting subtext about how might doesn't make right, too.

By the way, this is not a flame. I just re-read the first lines of my post, and they could be mis-interprited as really sarcastic. That was not my intent.

Thanks.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 04:20:20 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Hello,
Quicky posts!
Janine> Who is this Lawrence guy? Is that his CR name?
If it is I'm sorry I don't him. If it isn't tell him to post here and I'll straighten all out.
Lawrence>
If you want I'll email you, just tell me what it is!!:D
Winterwolf>
No rush man!
Go at your own pace!!:D
Discussion:Eighties cartoons.
A few really kicked *** like Voltron,Tranformers,Thundercats etc. But there were some that altough they brought entertainment to kids, they lacked real substance in hindsite.Such as the glowworms,Gummi bears, and Ducktales.No evolving characters,plot, or any kind of realistic villain.
Well there are my 2 cents on that one.
Emambu>
Where are those nummy brownies?:D
Rodlox>
<of PETA members with bovine traits.>
What exactly do you mean with bovine traits?
I'm not offended mind you just curious.
Well good by all I'll probably post later tonight!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 03:54:00 PM
IP: usr85.cqc.com

Aaron staggers in after... too long.

Moment of silence for Tito Puente.

It's a beautiful day. The sun is behind clouds, my pics are back, John Rocker is rotting in the minors, and today is Tom Jones' b-day. Thought I'd pass that along, due to his RP appearence. (Liam Neeson's too)

And now, beginning Aaron obnoxiously long, (but still probably not Traveler length) post A-Kon catch up post.

First off, let me say A-Kon was a blast. If you can in any way make it to next year's Kon, do so. If the only con you've been to previously is the Gathering, the first thing that hits you is the size of the thing. 3500-4000 badge sales, and that's not counting people on one-day passes. That's a lot of otaku in one place.

Drove up thursday with Robby and my bro Alex, as part of the Antarctic Press convoy, which we were allowed to join after helping load a truck, and crashed for the night in a room with like ten other people. Interesting experience, including apparently sleeping through taking a huge kick in the ribs from one of the stragglers who came in after us.

Friday. We discover why everyone walks over to the airport to eat. The prices at the hotel restaraunts are outrageous! Wander around the dealers room, and catch part of a new series I've very impressed with. It's called Berserk, and it's kind of like Loddoss War meets Rose of Versaills. Robby and I only managed to catch four and a half eps of a 26 ep series, and we're still hooked.

Saturday> Found a video room showing Trigun subs. Very cool series. Vash is the man... or he would be, if he weren't such a goof.

Cosplay day, and everyone is in costume. That included me and my bro as Kaji Ryoji and Shinji Ikari from Evangelion, respectively. Kaji's nearly my least favorite character (second only to Gendo Ikari) but I've discovered something: I *like* being Kaji. Managed to get pics with the entire NG:E cast, except we couldn't find anybody dressed as Ritsuko. Maybe next year.

Also got pics of Kaji macking on everyone from Lina Inverse to Laura Croft. I'm trying to find some way to post these, so if anyone has any suggestions, let me know.

Cosplay was cool, but I had to duck out before the prizes were handed out to make the art auction, where I may have taken Stephen's title as Official CR Auction Maniac. Ask Robby for details.

And then... Hentai Fest. Mara, you shoulda been there. A five hour marathon of Hentai anime. I'm trying to figure out exactly what I can say about H-Fest without violating the room rating.

(I know, I know, if I was really in character, I should've been in a room making my own hentai. But the gods were not that kind. I did get pointed out in the audience tho'. "Look, there's Kaji, he's the biggest pervert of them all!" I demured, giving that title to Happosi)

Lessons From H-Fest

1. Get there early, or you won't get a seat. Half the Kon turned up.
2. Sitting in a dark room watching porn with 200+ strangers is a interesting experience
3. H-Fest equalls X-rated MST3K.
4. My new code word for Fast Forward is "Plot!"

After H-Fest I hooked up with my bro again, and we played Quake III for an hour, and went off to the Sunday morning banquet, and then we drove home.

Which means I didn't sleep for approx. 38 hours. I have no memory of long stretches of the drive home.

To sum up.

Hotel room: $92.
A-Kon pass: $32.
Kenshin shirt: $45.
A-Kon experience: Priceless.

(C'mon Robby, now you have to do yours too)

Caught Road Trip last night. It's worth seeing.

SJ> So you think the 'Skins got a deal, eh? Let's wait till the season starts. I think Deion may be the biggest white elephant since Ricky Williams. Oh, and don't pay the ticket, either get a lawyer, or if you can't afford one, try to get granted deferred adjudication. If you pay, the hit to the checkbook won't be this one time. When you insurance people find out, it'll hurt worse. Oh, and is Sammael the William Wallace of demonkind or what?

Plaural of Santa Clauses? Santas.

Sith Witch> Star Wars Episode Two: The Sith Witch Project?

SOROW> Hope drill camp was okay.

Emambu> Welcome.

Cyborg> Ouch. Sorry to hear about your father. Good luck to both of you.

Stephen> 5' Catfish pillow? I have a pic of a guy who wandered around the whole con with one of those.

Doug, Kit> Congrats on the new car, wish we could've hooked up at A-Kon. G2001 is going to be in LA.

Christine> Ouch. Sorry about the ankle. And your cat. Hope you both feel better soon.

Crzy> Nifty pics. Saw some people at the con dressed as Miyu and Larva.

David G.> I think I saw you in passing, but I didn't get near the vampires much.

Lexy> Right on!

Robby> What was the skit where the guy was doing a version of Whisky in the Jar? I can't remember for the life of me. And I can't believe it took me till after the fight with Shabrinicto (sp) to figure out that the dub Gourry is also the guy who does Brock.

Janine> Sorry about your 'rents. But don't rush out before you're ready.

Spike> Ah, so you weren't at the con? I don't feel so bad about not finding you then. Congrats on the division title.

Jannie> Congrats on your new car, too. Seem to be a rash of them around here.

Spacebabie> Sorry about your bro. Hope he feels better soon.

Coyote> David Robinson> Well he's an Admiral now! ;) Yes, I did get two pics of Vash, one standing with a dead on Queen Esmereldas, and the other with the smarter of the insurance agents, complete with box of donuts and bazillion derringers under her serape. If only I had someplace to put them up. (Thinly veiled hint)

Caliope> Welcome back.

Airwalker> Since most of my other choices have already been recommended, I'll say Maison Ikkoku. Enjoy Israel.

DPH> I hate giving my thumbprint. I usually ask if they want a DNA sample or a retinal scan while they're at it.

Mara> Eagerly awaiting chibi-drama.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 03:40:55 PM
IP: ppp-207.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

DPH> Sorry about the rant. I'm just very passionate about the Decepticons as a group and as individuals.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 03:38:06 PM
IP: dialin-743-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

DPH> No offense but your "Transformer" idea is not something any Decepticon would ever do. They are to heroic for that, they are all about indivuality and diversity... they'd never go for a collective mind at all. The one true always heroic Megatron would never approve of that, and neither would Galvatron. (BM Megatron was insane though and not worthy of any connection to the Decepticons). If anything, in the next series, the Decepticon/Predacons should finally retake Cybertron, and purge it of all organics. And those self-rightious Autobots/Maximals should lose the next war for once. Nice idea though, but you'd need a whole new faction for it.

"Broadway Bound and Gagged> Sounds like a fun idea.

Animation> I agree with the decline. It seems that anything with any potential is axed these days. I confess, I've daydreamed about setting fire to every copy and negative of Pokemon and Digimon.

Now something "Gargoyles" related. I've been thinking about Thailog recently and have come up with a weird theory. Thailog wants to be Goliath. Think about it, he cloned the clan, and one clone is an amalgamation (sp?) of Goliath's two mates. He wants to be Goliath the way he thinks Goliath should be.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 03:00:59 PM
IP: dialin-743-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Sevarius Jr.:<What part of [_Akira_] creeps you guys out?> I am not realy creeped out by the movie anymore (the first time or two some sceanes turned my stomach), but for me the soundtrack has always been so powerfull that it gives me the shivers.

Current Favorite Anime: Shirow's _Dominion_ (a.k.a. _Tank Police_) This is a comedy (satire?) a la Pratchett. It has everything: love, laughs, and realy big guns. I have seen some of the dubbed videos, and liked them. *music starts in the background: Tank Police!/See the power that we've got./Tank Police!/We'll give it our best shot.* Have the first trade paperback, and like it even more. I even have an issue of the manga that I picked up at a garage sale- I realy have to get the rest of that series... Just as an asside, Shirow is the gcreator of _AppleJack_ and _Ghost in the Shell_.

Bonjour! *Cyborg leaves still humming the _Tank Police_ theme song*
Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 02:33:06 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Just a quick, early morning posty. *YAWN* Sorry obout that.

Green Baron> Hey where are you I naven't herd from you in a while.

Winterwolf> I don't know when I'll be back on. We are getting new office furnature and have to disconnect the computer. Hopefuly I'll be on later tonight.

Brooklyn> I think this is for you any way. Lawrence says,"Hi" and wants to know why you haven't e-mailed him lately. I think I got the message correct, if not I'll re post it when I get back.

See you all later. Try to have a good day.
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 01:43:43 PM
IP: phx-207.treknet.net

Wow I never stared a long running topicagy before

*stands Proud*

The Romance of Haruka and Michiru>> Nobody in the subs shouted out "They are dating and oh yeah they're gay" but the relation ship is sort of on the level of Tara and Willow
((stoopid WB censors)) and I havent seen thm kiss yet, just hold hands and lean against each other. Of course I havent seen Stars yet, wich I hear is much more violent and features men turning into women

Anime: The only one that airs in America that I don't watch is Flint, Cause it looks to lame and I really havent gone around to Monster Rancher
Pokemon: Misty and Meowth are my too favorite characters. I havent really taken a shine to Tracey yet((Pokemon Watcher? is there also a Pokemon Slayer?))
Digimon:Favorite charachters? Sora and Gatomon and my favorite villians are Myotismon and Piedmon
DBZ and DragonBall((My brother owns tapes of the original))favorite characters are Bulma and Vegeta, One has been there since the beggining and she is a techno geinuis who isnt afraid to speak her mind. The other is a kickbutt warrior with a cure smirk, Together..they are the parents of Trunks and Bra
Ronin warriors:Rowan..sigh blue hair,sexy voice
Gundam Wing: Heero and Trowa= two mysterious guys that are so cool, Rowleena, I just admirer her...Lady Un...the Bitca goddess who resembles a substitute teacher from Hell((Whoa I used a TGS reference!))
Sailormoon: There are times when I liken the sereis to Buffy
My favorite characters=Mercury and Pluto, blue haired genius who is very sweet, and a fellow Scorpio who is good with kids and can stop time.
I plan on watching Card Captors and Tenchi also

80's Toons: Yes Galaxy High! I loved that series and visionaries too I also remember
COPS, No not that Fox show but the cartoon"Fighting Crime in a future time" and the opening music was better than the Bad Boys theme.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:22:36 PM
IP: user-37kap0f.dialup.mindspring.com

**BEAST MACHINES COMMENTS**
If anyone has visited bottalk or any of other places I visited, you know my opinion. If you must blame anyone for how Beast Machines turned out, do not blame the writers. They had to follow orders. Beast Machines was a 26 chapter novel. Where Transformers could go next? Anywhere. They are still both Autobot, Decipticon, Maximal, and Predacon colonies out there. Frankly, BM Megatron could have gone further. Here's a thought to shake up producers: a group of Decipticons found a way to turn themselves into the transformer equilivant of Borg. Along the way back to Cybertron, they met up with Predacons and upgraded themselves. The only weakness of this group is they can not take beast modes because it would destroy the collective mind. That would give purpose to beast modes and try to keep G1 fans happy.
**END BEAST MACHINES COMMENTS**

**ANIMATION TOPIC**
Hmm. I guess America is in trouble when it comes to matching anime quality (plot and continuity) with Japan.
**END ANIMATION TOPIC**

**SCIENCE FICTION COMMENTS**
I feel the next star trek series should not be done until Voyager is gone. It should also have one hundred percent fan fiction writers. Which has higher quality: Farscape or Star Trek Voyager? I am just curious.
**END SCIENCE FICTION COMMENTS**

**LOGIC TEST**
One of you is right. I had a set of letters and just copied and pasted my entire way up. That was over 5 years ago. I imagine on faster machines today, I might be able to double the amount produced.
**END LOGIC TEST**

**RP RELATED**
www.cei.net/~dphofrules/chrons/bftsrp.html . Recheck the link on my name. It switched to the character archive. Oh yea, one more thing for the benefit of the readers, all my recent posts involving the Speed Stars are taking place the day after DPH arrives home.
**END RP RELATED**

Do someone say QBASIC?

**BFTS RP continues**
6 hours later.

"We have a problem," said Alex Freedman.

"What?" said Fred Hitman.

"We have some people in the biker part of the organization, trying to work their way up who might be government agents." said Alex.

"How did they pass the initial background check?" asked Fred.

"Easily. all of them had no apparant family." said Alex.

"Ouch. Get in touch with Paula and Jennifer. Tell them to arrange for those questionable members to kill each other in a fire fight." said Fred Hitman.

The next day

"Penetration problem solved" said Paula.

"What about any traces back to us?" asked Fred.

"None whatsoever." said Jennifer.

"In the future, we want more exhaustive checks before letting anyone in, understand?" said Fred.

"Yes sir," replied Alex.

"The new equipment arrived sir." said Henry.

"Have you tested it yet?" asked Fred.

"We did that right away and everything passed." said Paula. "In a few hours, we will have all the 12 members present and receiving training before going out."

"Excellent. Those mutants won't know what hit them." said Fred.

A few hours later

"Now, that each of you has seen the video, we want to make sure that you know how to use the equipment. That's why you're here." said Paula. "I want everybody to put on you suit and and grab the weapon that has been assigned to you."

"Why aren't we carry any guns?" asked one person.

"I thought we covered that. Our objectives are to burn down the house and test the effectives of the sonic cannons against the mutants. As soon as everyone is ready, we can begin testing the equipment." said Paula.

It took about thirty minutes for everyone to be ready.

"Now, everyone get in positions like you are going to be at that house around the mock house. When you get in position, start firing." said Paula.

Roughly 30 minutes later, the mock house was burning. Paula handed everyone their hearing protection device, reminded them of contigency plans, and told them what to signal to use to tell others to turn off the hearing protection device. The flame throwers and sonic cannons were refueled and all 12 people grabbed the weapons and headed towards DPH's house.
**END BFTS RP for now**
For all the readers and a reminder to Winterwolf and Rodlox, the battle will not occur until Monday.
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:42:33 AM
IP: max1-4.cwy.cei.net

<Enters singing Patrick Toman's "Quarrymen rally song" on the theme of Queen's "Hammer to fall"...BTW, nice idea! >

Fanfic related topics:> Many thanks to everyone read my story. "The Test" is having good ratings, what encourages me to continue writing. Most of all, many thanks to the ones who told me what was wrong: they are of great help, for they allow me to improve.
And, for the ones who asked it, last night I began putting down a few rows of the two stories I will work on during my service. The first one will be setted before Brooklyn's Timedancing, and will be about a difficult choice and a long manhunting that comes to an unprevided end. Nemo will appear here, but with a secondary role, while something will be revealed about the ones who sent him after the Clan.
The second story will be setted shortly after the Timedancing, and Nemo this time will have a major role; there will be warriors, honor, Quarrymen, battles and betrayals, there will be some first revelations about Nemo's dark past (but not all will be revealed...)...and Nemo himself will have to fight another blade duel, against a character I like a lot...and this opponent will not be so easy to defeat!

Archwolf:> Take your time in reading. As I said, dialogues are my weak point now, and I'll work on it...:)

Warpmind:> TIE Defender: great ship! Being able to outspeed, outgun, outmaneuver and outshield every other starfighter in the Galaxy...all in the same time! It is a delirium!!! :D

Doug:> Thank you for the compliments. Coming from a writer of your caliber, they are even more precious to me. I am glad you liked Nemo...he's the first character I ever created, and I was a bit anxious about his impact...About the dialogues, I admit it is not only a matter of translation, but I think I'll be able to improve in it. Thank you for pointing out anyway :). About Buffy...well, Mediaset has bought the first three seasons in a pack and will broadcast two eps a week starting next Sunday. I will for sure tell you what I think about it as I have the chance.
I finally finished "Night of the Symbiotes 1" (more than a month to read a story...if it is not a record...:(). Thumbs up, definitely. I liked a lot how you created a climax of events, and the cliffhanger in the end. I'm gonna read part two as quickly as I can. I particularily envy your ability in dealing with a lot of characters in one time...

Niamhgold:> Just for curiosity, when is your Birthday?

WInterwolf:> <> Hey, no problem to me! As far as I'm concerned, you *was* funny...for sure you didn't disturb me doing so, rather the opposite, and I bet Niamhgold was not disturbed as well.

Gside:> I'm very glad you liked my story. Thank you a lot for the linguistic infos, these are things I can'f find on grammar books, so they're more precious to me.

OK, I hope I missed none...I'll be here again later maybe, tomorrow if not.

Ciao!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 11:26:13 AM
IP: h213-16-206.mi2.albacom.net

Crzy > Boys will be girls and girls will be boys... that's just another thing that's uniquely anime... like spiky hair and eyes the size of dinner plates. Heck... even when you become relatively sure of a character's gender, it often turns out that it changes just by throwing water on them or something. :P

I'm glad we don't have that kind of identity problem around this fandom, though. :: cackles evilly ::

"Broadway Bound and Gagged" > Woohoo... theater group, huh? Sounds more like just the title of an R-rated fic we haven't seen yet. So who's gonna take on that evil little creativity demon? Christine? Madame Destine? >:)

News re: The Aerie > I'm currently in the process of updating my gargoyles site and moving it to a new home. Might be releasing the new URL as early as this weekend. Once this is done, I will be free of AOL's crummy 2 MB limit forever.

:: scurries off to work ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 07:03:18 AM
IP: 98a86010.ipt.aol.com

Shoadowrider> Read the fic. Good work. It's a nice set up for a continuing storyline, although the language didn't flow very well in a few places. A couple things that stick out: seek is rarely used compared to other synonyms, and cure is used more for illnesses and poisons than wounds; but these confusions over connotations should disappear soon enough if you stay here long enough.

Fire Storm> <<**Fire Storm throws a couple of ears at Janine. And not all of them are his!**>>: Could I have mine back? And I could always use a couple extra.

Airwalker> Good luck on your upconing trip. Don't start any wars.

Welcome back SOROW. I thought these words of wisdom might be appropriate (actual quotes from Prof. Kellerman, director of RUMB (I have many more Kdawgisms, just waiting for the tight moment)): "Bump it up to 172 . . . put your tray tables in the upright position." "That's a really nice opening, really, really nice.� WE DON'T WANT NICE!!!"

Niamhgold> <<If I may ask, what's he major in?... (Him being your brother, I half-way expect him to be majoring in CGI or such... ;) )>>: Heh. I am halfway convinced that we only share one chromosome, and that only by necessity. He is an illustration major. You can see some of his woks in my directory (brnthpriest.jpg, Tim - disassociatebday, and Tim - bizcardedit (the ugly 9 is my fault, and should be changed soon anyway))

SRS Jr.> Many well wishes for the health of your computer.

DPH> <<keyboard over 300 pages in less than 30 minutes>>: "over 300 pages"

I think I'll sleep now, and change the mp3 when I wake up. (note to self: start w/ Toku)

I leave you with these words of wisdom: Celibacy is not heredary.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 05:13:39 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*Warpmind enters.*
Well, the RGG caused some neural upheaval within me... I have started coding a strictly-ASCII version of the RGG. In QBasic. Currently, it appears there will be no Save/Load function, but that might happen later...

Janine: You're welcome. Uh... what laugh? ;)

Rodlox: Cat's can't be that bad? We're talking about a creature that when angered has five out of six corners being deadly weapons! I'm tellin' ya, an angry cat is more painful to hold that a hedgehog!

*Reads Toku Kaioto's long rant, then heads to the fridge and retireves a cool Bud lite.* Dude, I think you need to cool down here. Good points, but didn't you wear out your fingertips? ;)

Oracle: What you said there reminded me of how renowned Norwegian archaeologist Thor Heyerdahl taught his sons (both were, as far as I recall his story, 18 at the time) about tobacco... he held out two cigars, sat down and explained all the dangers of tobacco to them, carefully and deliberately, and when he was done he said "Now you know what there is to know, and you should be able to make your own decision. Do you want these?" One of his sons declined, the other accepted, and has kept smoking so far. *Shrug* As you said, some things should be taken to kids from their parents, when the time is right, and then, I guess it is only appropriate to let the kid make his own decision. So, if you're saying parents should teach their kids acceptance of other peoples' preferences, maybe we should ensure they do so with an open mind, as well?

Wilek: A TIE is always welcome? Oh, good... can I trust you with the keys while I'm on Lanzarote? ;) Oh, and you have six psychotic sociopath personalities with crazy-violent tendencies? Tsk, amateur. ;)

Well, that's it for now. Later.
*Warpmind climbs into his TIE Defender, blasts open the hole in the wall again (where, tragically, DC was stretched out to cover it) and speeds out.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 04:05:50 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Hi all. I'm just sitting here trying to work out next semester's classes.

Niamhgold> Thanks for the advise but the field experience I need is in Marine Biology and Theatre. I sorta need to go outta state for that :(

Check out this web site, it's pretty cool. It's not mine it belongs to a friend's theatre troup called BROADWAY BOUND AND GAGGED. These are all the people I hang out with every Saturday night at RHPS. Sorry just a little promotion for my friends. Well, gotta fly and work on my schedule and my web page and my first ever attempt at fan fic and my wings and my.......:)
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa, Az
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 02:03:55 AM
IP: phx-201.treknet.net

SLAYERS! If you are looking to PURCHASE Slayers, you may want to wait a few months. They don't have a release date yet, but they intend to release Slayers on DVD in the US before the end of the year. YEAH!!

Wilek - Failed at making Zoicite look male? well of course... they are called 'Bishounen'. Feminine Men. Anime is FILLED with them. Sometimes I get a bit weirded out when I think... "DANG that was a hot dude... oh... wait... I think it's a girl... NOPE! it's a guy! WOOO! baby!" But then, we all know I am weird anyway. Just stay away from anything called 'yaoi' or 'Shounen-ai' and you will be safe. ;)
CrzyDemona
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 01:52:37 AM
IP: 209.150.94.78

Wilek-----You forgot Squaresoft.
Gasper
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 01:44:42 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Christine: YAY!!....**SPOILERS**now to go see if the king gets the boot out of his kingdom, since he's not the right king.**END SPOILERS**

<<<<Birdy The Mighty>> Imagine the most gruesome and horrific train wreck you can imagine, taking place in the middle of Castle Wyvern. Christine's ficverse ran headlong into the song Joxer The Mighty from Xena Warrior Princess on some crowded street inside my mind just now, and the aftermath is just as ghastly and just as wildly illogical...>> there is only one thing to say then:

SING IT!!!

Winterwolf: you forgot something: oen of the topics discussed was Gargoyle relations to other gargoyles, as well as gargoyle biology and evolution {which is a separate subject from garg origins}.

but you did try!

Rodlox
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 01:10:29 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Rodlox> <<if you click on 3legs_2heads_1tail_0spots - you have a relative of the Pierson Puppetteer!!>> Um...who? :}

Winterwolf> <<Baloney is the Animaniacs version of Barney the purple dinosaur. Noooo! Since he is an Animaniacs character he is much worse the purple one. ;)>> Ahh, now I remember. <ehehehee> Excellent...

Janine> Parents> :( I'm not sure what to tell you...except that we hope things improve and we're always here for you. <hugs>

Spacebabie> <<My brother and his friends got jumped and he got hit in the head. He's ok now, just a nasty boo-boo under his eye.>> :O I'm glad he's alright now, but...<grr> <hands you a chaingun> Give your brother this. For the next time he runs into these idiots...

Sailors Uranus and Neptune as sisters> I don't mind, but then I'm among the few people on earth who didn't mind them making Zoicite a woman...really, if they were trying to draw a man, they failed spectacularly. ;P

DPH> <<Random gargoyle generator - it would be cool if we could save pictures made by it.>> That's what the Print Screen key is for. ^_^ <<keyboard over 300 pages in less than 30 minutes.>> Possibly geometric expansion: type a word (preferably a long one, like pneumoultramicroscpicsilicovolcanoconiosis), copy and paste it, copy both copies and paste them, copy all four copies and paste them, ad infinitum? Or, a very cheating way is to rename a very big file, like an MP3 or a video file, to the TXT extension. $<<Rodlox suggested a crossover of characters between the RPs. I'd like to know how the writers of the other RP feel about it.>> Um...I don't know; the RP is already so complex that I completely lost track of it almost a month ago...of course, I'm stupid, so the others might not have this problem...$

Todd> <> Which is unfortunate, because it's quite fun. ;)

Christine> Hope your cat gets better soon. :(

Gside> <<When You play enough music, you learn that it is forte.>> Or enough Mega Man games. ^_^

Fire Storm> <<Nope. All the pics. Which ones stay, which ones will be added on, and which ones go to that great recycle bin in the sky.>> So we can vote for more than one? Cool. ^_^ <<so it was a bee. We poured water on it an pumped about 120v through it. It didn't do anything.>> Oh. That's alright then; bees don't have much more than two or three functioning nerves anyhow. ;P

Archwolf> <> :O That's even odder than my clown dream... (Short version: Clownhouse meets Resident Evil. Demonic clowns had invaded my house, there was only one working phone, and my semi-automatic was almost out of ammo.) O_o

Warpmind> <> Oh, TIEs have always been welcome; especially Defenders (my favorite type). ;) <<split personalities ain't all that bad, unless one of them is a psychotic sociopath with crazy-violent tendencies. ;)>> Like six of mine?

Caliope> <<*cheacks out the cow page....builds her own cow....1 legged, 2 headed, 3 tailed cow.....Bursts out laughing* Where do you find these things, huh! :P>> :) To be honest, I'm not sure...I think this kind of weirdness just sort of follows me around...

Airwalker> <> Oh no! :( Hopefully your trip will at least be fun...

Doug> <<Hopefully this next one will bomb so badly Hollywood will give up the franchise (I'm praying for the same thing to happen with the Blair Witch sequel)>> Somehow I sense you wouldn't like the Blair Witch/Timedancer crossover miniseries I'm trying to work on. ;) $<<Wilek and Green Baron can also fill you in on who Fieger is, what happened to him, and what he's doing now. :)>> Um...I've kind of been out of touch with the RP thanks to various factors...I'm afraid I'm not sure when he came back. :} $ <<maybe in the future we can get them onto shirts somehow.>> Is there a place at your local mall that does this? There is at mine; I was able to get Caitlingoyle's pic of me on a T-shirt. ^_^

Crzy> <<Birdy The Mighty>> Imagine the most gruesome and horrific train wreck you can imagine, taking place in the middle of Castle Wyvern. Christine's ficverse ran headlong into the song Joxer The Mighty from Xena Warrior Princess on some crowded street inside my mind just now, and the aftermath is just as ghastly and just as wildly illogical...

Robby> <<Titan AE is a big animation product from a non Disney studio that will utilize state of the art animation merged with CGI and has a PG rating. For that alone it looks promising.>> Ohhh yes. The last movie I saw that fit that description is Prince Of Egypt, with which I have been obsessed ever since I first saw it... (Speaking of which, does anyone know where to pick up MP3s from the soundtrack? ^_^)

SJ> <<Top Ten Signs Your Favorite Show Hired a Fanfic Writer>> <LOL> This might be a nice addition:
[Boss: "Will someone explain to me why Accounts just recieved a $47,000,000 bill from Legal, citing 'negotiations'?!" New writer: "Sorry boss; I had to send them to Disney, Konami, Haxan, Dreamworks, Lucasarts, New Line Cinema, Warner Brothers, and Nintendo to get permissions for a crossover I'm writing." Boss: "<looks at bill> You forgot Capcom and Trilobyte." Writer: "Heh..." Boss: "Nereus, you're fired. I suggest you get your affairs in order, since Security now has orders to shoot you on sight." Seriously, if I worked for a TV studio, this exact conversation would take place at some point in my career.] :P
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:53:54 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

**Winterwolf enters the CR holding a copy of Niamhgold's fanfic. He continues reading almost walking into a wall. Hey I'm in the CR!** ^_^

Hi everybody!

Jannie> <Honda CR-V, BLUE> How's the 99 SUV? I'm glad you got such a great deal. :)

Fire Storm> <250 MB> I guess I should download at work not at home.

Caliope> <Thats the irony of life for ya, huh?> Yup, it sure is. <what have you been up too?> I'm working on a million things. I'm building a website. That will be for Brooklyn and me. I'm reading fanfic. Currently working through Niamhgold's selection. I'm having the most difficult time getting the picture of Winterwolf to come out just right. I guess it is difficult to do a self-portrait and not move. ;) I'm indulging in the idea of writing a fic. I'm just sketching out the details. I'm also working on my figure for the Gathering. This is all in my free time, which isn't much these days. I've been working 10 - 11 hours a day. :p <What did I miss?> All we did here was wonder where you went were and talked about how much we missed you. :) Okay, but doesn't that make you feel important and loved? The recent topics included organized religion, origin of Gargoyles, new Avalon Mists, assisted suicide, the current cartoon is for kids debate, animation, dragon ball, sailor moon, digital cameras, and that's all that I can think of at the moment. If I looked through the CR I probably realize I missed a bunch of things. Of course if you liked my first answer better just ignore everything else afterwards. Again it is good to have you back! ;)

DPH> <Dilbert> You missed it. Dilbert was on today. Channel 9 started at 8:30 PM.

Airwalker> Now who will point out all the details about the stories? Well, enjoy your trip. <anime> I agree with Caliope that Ranma 1/2 is funny. I saw one episode that wasn't dubbed or subtitled and it still had me laughing. Another fun website to check out if you have the time is http://www.anipike.com/

SOROW> Welcome back! I guess you can be happy that it's over at least. Have a brownie. Emambu brought them in. ^_^

Cat> Hi Cat! It was posted recently but I'll just repost it for you. Pendragon and Gargoyles are getting ready to start up again soon. I know we are all eager to see the new series start. It'll be on the way soon.

Naimhgold and Shadowrider> I hope I didn't upset either of you with the comment to Niamhgold in the middle of my review to Shadowrider. I was just trying to be a little funny.

Niamhgold> I'm glad I read it. It was good. I hope Shadowrider continues to write more. For the most part I just added that comment to you to tease you a little bit. I thought you might find it silly or cute. ;) I did promise to read you fanfic first ya know. That's because I really want to. I'll be sending you an email soon on "As the Sun Sets". I'm halfway through so far. ^_^

Brooklyn> Unfortunately I just haven't had much to say. Oh well. I sent you email with all the details. < brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com> I'll have to send the next email there.

Mecord> <Mr. T.> BA Baracass (sp?) <dream> So were you the character Face then? :)

Delphi> <site> I'm happy you liked it. It's great especially if you are wondering about the pros and cons of the various digital camera features. ^_^

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

DPH walks to the multicolored gateway and calls out to Rodlox and Jason. "Jason can you hear me?"

In the ever-changing world of thought Rodlox and Jason hear a voice calling out to them. Rodlox does not recognize the voice but Jason does and replies to it. "Yeah I can hear you DPH. You should see this place sometime. I'm coming out with a new friend." Jason speaks to Rodlox. "You said you couldn't see anything, but can you move?"

Rodlox attempts to move. Even after clearly picturing the movement in his mind nothing happens. "No, I can't. I guess you need to have some psi ability for most things here. I guess I'm lucky I can talk."

Jason pushes Rodlox through the gateway and follows himself.

Jason and Rodlox pop out into the living room. Once they're through Winterwolf collects the gems. "How was it?"

"I want to try it again. I think I'm getting the hang of all of this."

"I didn't like it. I couldn't even see!" Rodlox sighed.

"I've never heard anyone having that experience before. I guess you won't be going for a second visit." Winterwolf paused then on seeing how Rodlox was the newcomer decided to do introductions. "Rodlox allow me to introduce DPH, and Plastique Saber. DPH, Plastique this is Rodlox."

They exchange welcomes and then Plastique excuses herself to make an important phone call. She goes into the master bedroom toward the rear of the house and closes the door.

DPH decided to ask Jason about what he heard. "Jason, Winterwolf was telling me that you were a member of the Speed Stars." Everyone left in the room became noticeably tense.

"Yeah"

"What can you tell me about them?"

"Well they are mostly a gang but a very organized one almost kind of like the Mafia. Most of the time we'd steal things, race each other and watch out what was going on in the area. We did a lot of things I'm not proud of but it was the first time in my life I felt I like I had people who looked out for me. I heard that we had some heavy-duty equipment but I never dot to see any of it. There was also talk about some freaks that we were always going after. Thanks all I know."

"Would you join up with them again?" Winterwolf was somewhat surprised by DPH's blunt question.

"No. They are dangerous and I know now that they could care less about me. I had started a real job working for the Census Department when one of them told me that they wanted to see me for old times sake and that's when I first met NCA. You know the rest from there."

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

I'm off to talk to a friend if she is on. Good night!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:44:20 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.68.106.newyork2.level3.net

Off-topic announcement:
The June issue of Sabledrake Magazine is now posted!
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Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:37:00 AM
IP: 16-207.009.popsite.net

TALEWEAVER - You wrote: [As far as Robotix there's a site called scifi.ign That reviews the cartoon series from ages past. It covered Robotix about a month ago. Including clips and the intro.]

Thanks for pointing the site out. Now all I have to do is find a copy of some of the episodes from that series. I can't exactly explain why but recently it's popped into my head to try and get some copies of all those old shows I loved. I managed to find a copy of the VISIONARIES pilot at a comic-con and now I'm looking for this. I think after I find it I'll set out on a search for SILVERHAWKS episodes.

(Ahh, the good old days! They sure did make some great shows back then didn't they?)

STATE OF CARTOONS - Like everything in history Cartoons have their ups and downs. In the mid 80's we had some great shows come out - too many to list but they've all been mentioned in both Gargoyle comment rooms at one point or another - and then in the early 90's it hit a slump. Everything good went off the air and a lot of crap started coming on.

(This was also paralleled by a decline in comic books - by the early 90's the art on some books were great but the stories were either bad or non-existant. Early Image is a great example of this.)

But that slump did come to an end after a while. Good shows got onto television - GARGOYLES, BEAST WARS, REBOOT, just to name a few. Anime is coming in slowly. If history is any guide the current slump that has come after the mid-90's cartoon boom will come to an end in the next few years - and that means that all the shows we loved in the 80's that came back in the 90's will once again be dusted off and brought back bigger and better in the 00's.

GASPER - You wrote: [Plus, I guess Machines is just Screwed up to the max now, but I would like to see it someday.]

It's got its difficulties but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that BEAST MACHINES didn't have the same amount of freedom on FOX that BEAST WARS had in syndication.

In the end all I can say about BEAST MACHINES is that what I liked about it outweighed what I disliked about it.

You wrote: [Truthfully, I like the CG, but they shoulda finished the Loose ends in Reboot]

I never really watched REBOOT that much when it was still producing new episodes on ABC. I did come across an episode today while watching Cartoon Network - it had these two bots that sort of resembled Mulder and Scully from X-Files. Not a bad episode actually. Most of what I had seen previously was from what I figure was the first season which wasn't that heavy of plot and CGI (kind of like the first few episodes of BEAST WARS).

ROBBY - You wrote: [Pehaps Slayers NEXT or Slayers TRY? The later series are actually better...]

I've seen Slayers TRY although I have yet to see Slayers NEXT. TRY was the last Slayers series produced right? I really enjoyed the SLAYERS series in general and would like to have all the series in the collection I'm trying to build and I would hate to think I might be missing one.

You wrote: [Beast Machines ruined the Beast Wars story for me personally, since they are basically discarding almost all continuity and plot threads established in Wars.]

I don't know about that entirely - some stuff of course was bound to get discarded since the whole scene of the series shifted from past Earth to Cybertron but they did keep up relevent threads.

Like I said above I have mixed feelings about BM. I do think that it improves greatly in S2 though although even then there are some things done that don't sit well with me. (I'm defintely unhappy with the final fate of Thrust/Waspinator for example.) But it ended on a high (but at the same time jarring) note that leaves it open for the next series to do absolutely anything with.

I do hope though that the next series (which I'm sure is going to get done - after DIGIMON this is the second most popular show on FOX; even if FOX doesn't want it I think that its popular enough that Hasbro would want to continue with it - it's great advertisement after all) either sticks with this cast or carries over some of the characters at least. In fact the ending of the BM gives the feeling that a movie would fit in perfectly.
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:33:10 AM
IP: 219.new-york-16-17rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Where there is a long winded rant, I'm here to respond.
Kioto and how anime is the way to go>
"That�s what real parenting is about, making the Truth available to your children as they grown." Erm... I dunno when you became a parent, but seeing that you aren't, don't form an opinion on what you don't know. Listening and talking to your kids is a -huge- part of raising your kids. But just answering their questions about touchy subjects isn't going to make them Boy Scouts. Hopefully it will help, but its not a total problem solver. You can do the best you can as a parent and thats it. No one becomes one and -tries- to be lazy, or tries to make their kids wrong and evil. Life just throws you a curve, and you deal with it the best you can. Unfortunately, you can talk and listen to a child till you're blue in the face, but if this child is somehow already heading down a certain, the only thing that will happen is that he'll be more informed. More informed to make his own decisions, right or wrong, nothing you can really do. I'm sure alot of you know what I'm saying. "I want to run away because of this." "I hate my rents because of that." I really don't think all of your parents are evil, lazy or abusive. Crap just happens and thats it.
You bring up the point that Japan has, in a sense, better values when it comes to programming and over-all ethics. Japan is less violent, is more open minded, blah blah. I really dunno what Japan you've visited lately, but its become more and more violet. Why? Because of -western- culture. Japan's had centuries to guide and teach their children certain habits and traits. But alas, no matter how much they talk to and teach their children, they will do what they want. Watch american TV, become more violent, become more closed-minded. Yeah, Japan has some good ideas and I think America should listen, but its way too late for that.
So what do we do? We do know American TV tends to really suck. So we -have- to limit what our children see and hear everyday to a point. You can't stick them in the middle of a war and say "Hon, thats just life. It sucks so you might as well learn now." Don't think so. They will become hard and abrasive, judgemental and coarse. Violence and over stimulation can do that. So throw the boob tube in the trash? Yah.. then your kid will go over to Tommy's house and watch it there. Sorry to break it to you, but children are harder to control than you think. They will do what they want and you have to let them to a degree.
Let Sailor Moon run as it should? Sure. But not in the afternoons after school. It sucks, it really does, but once that happens, where are we going to stop with the "thats the way life is so let children see it no matter what" attitude? They're talking about letting network TV use the work "fuck" in its programming. Everyone uses it, so why not show it? Why not letting 6 year old Jimmy hear those things? Because he's not prepaired to use that knowledge wisely. If he hears it enough, no matter what mom says, he'll still say it. Everyone else is so why not him?
Like I said, limits. Everyone has to work together and have -some- respect for other's beleifs and decisions. Being gay isn't a bad thing, but it should be brought up to children by their parents, not Sailor Moon while eating cheese and crackers.
eesh.. I think I've ranted long enough. *rants Jannie's ears off some more*
*zooms off*
Oracle
Wednesday, June 7, 2000 12:04:34 AM
IP: dyn1-tnt1-70.milwaukee.wi.ameritech.net

Brief rest from the RP tonight. More stuff tomorrow.

Happy Joy News about Star Wars Episode 2: Looks like George Lucas is confirming that Ray Park WILL be in the second film. Unfortunately, probably not as Darth Maul....but he will be in it.

Lots of anime talk....I watched "Akira" again tonight. Still a great movie. What part of that movie creeps you guys out? For me, it's the giant teddy bear that bleeds milk. The violently mutating Tetsuo doesn't bother me, but that teddy....
I'm glad that Cartoon Network is going to air Tenchi Muyo. Finally, I can get a daily dosage of Ryoko! Ah, she is my personal anime soulmate. Beautiful and homicidal as well!

Fire Storm: I'm just going to pay the ticket. It'd be no use arguing it in front of a judge. The exit I took had a 2 hour HOV restriction which I didn't know about, but that's no defense. "Gee, you honor, I didn't know there was a restriction." Eh, who wants to be bothered with going to court. Plus, it was a minor violation, so I get no points on my license. Just a dent in the checkbook.

Stephen: <<you sort of grow on a person after a while. :)>> Yes! I am the fungus among us! ;) Yeah, I would have to say that I am, at least, "opinionated" about certain things, and that I can be downright infuriating at times. Not my best character traits, but hopefully the positives outweigh the negatives. I HOPE. Sorry if something I've said has offended you. It's normal for 2 people to have differences in opinion, but I'm sorry if those differences have gone beyond their scope and outright offended you.

Finally, I leave you with a funny (and unfortunately realistic) parody from the good folks over at Zealot.com. Enjoy! It's the:
Top Ten Signs Your Favorite Show Hired a Fanfic Writer

10. The characters mention something that happened in season one. [Why... that would require a long attention span on the part of the sci-fi TV producers... we can't have that, people! It would break down our ]society's structure!

9. Suddenly Optimus Primal is getting his freak on with a toaster (oh god, I can only wish, friggin Greening of Cybertron my ass, if 4 million years of metal is good enough for Prime then it oughta be good enough fer ol' monkeybutt, say, anyone got Hasbro's address? I gotta manuscript I wanna send em.)

8. New characters start popping up for no real reason and the characters (Which happen to be several hundred years in the future) are talking about present day pop culture. (I seriously read a Mega Man X Fanfic that was like this.)

7. Jay and Silent Bob show up. [Hey, that's not fair to Kevin Smith. Personally, I feel quite a few shows could benefit from their brand of hijinks. Drink a beer and smoke some weed, my friends! Snootchie Bootchies!]

6. Let's see... the show becomes responsive to fan wishes and desires (instead of one "filk you, fans!" after another), some shred of continuity appears between one story and the next...oh, and did I mention all the lovin'? There's lots of that. All the time. 24/7. In every combination imaginable. Good times.

5. I know my mom was never a member of Starfleet before...

4. Starbuck and Apollo help guide Voyager through a particularly rough spot in the Delta Quadrant.

3. You suddenly remember that you have never seen Willow give Buffy a sponge bath before..... {Joss Whedon, start taking notes!]

2. Scully is pregnant. Oh, wait...

1. Suddenly, there's a Lone Gunwoman named Ecto3785 who's also carrying Mulder's child...

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 11:35:22 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Well, D/FW folks, in case you haven't heard there might be one interesting reason to come outto the upcoming Sci-Fi/Hollywood Expo in Plano:

David Kaye, voice of Beast Wars/Machines Megatron will be MC of the event. I didn't know who all was aware of this, but I thought those of you who are big Transformers fans might want to check it out on that account...
Skippy The klingon
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 11:22:49 PM
IP: uv1cisco02-11.ultravision.net

Airwalker: As for Anime comedy, I�d personally recommend �Those Who Hunt Elves.� Admittedly, probably not on the same line as �Slayers� there is something to be said about being in a swords and sorcery fantasy world with a tank possessed by the restless ghost of a cat. Just let your imagine linger on that small aspect and the possibilities of mayhem it represents.

Ranma 1 / 2) is also one of my favorite anime comedies, but it is very slap-stick at times. Still, it is martial arts slap-stick, so its ok. :)

Logic Question: Well, lessee. Cheating one way, you could use huge freaking font, or just not fill the pages.
OR
You could put the paper in a nice box, which makes a nice support prop under your keyboard and begin typing � ^_^

Anime Issues:

I honestly wish we had the Japanese orientation about our television. They seem so much more mature about dealing with subject matter. Their TV is more violent than ours, they have more �questionable� material on the air, and yet they don�t have half as many problems that we claim come from exposure to such things. Despite how they may personally feel about various touchy subjects (homosexuality, violence, etc.) they portray these things as facts of life, making things realistic. They don�t give kids a completely na�ve view of the world. Pacifists accept that there is violence. The religious accept that we are all sinners (or at least the Judeo-Christians are SUPPOSED to accept it �). The Japanese are very practical about this sort of thing. In real life things we may find personally questionable happen � a lot.

There ARE homosexual people out there. They do not all act �flagrant� (whatever that is supposed to mean :P). They are not all promiscuous as stereotyped. They are generally Normal people who have a different orientation. That�s how anime portrays the world at large.

There IS violence in the world. Not all of it is the same. Some is necessary. Some is malicious. Some is rough-housing, and some of it is murder. Violence has consequences. Weapons hurt and kill. Good children�s television shouldn�t delude kids into thinking the world is too much different. Episodes of Gargoyles like �Deadly Force� raise a lot more consciousness about issues children should learn about growing up than created murderous or traumatic psychosis is kids. Just because you are so damn busy doesn�t mean that you shouldn�t be bothered having to answer little Billy when he asks why Elisa isn�t getting up off her kitchen floor.

That�s what real parenting is about, making the Truth available to your children as they grown. The Truth means more than just raw facts and overwhelming streams of pictures and data, it means explanations and values alongside the experiences. It means letting kids know the important differences between �ought� and �is�; �can� and �should�; and �might� and �right�.

Anyway, I think Japanese TV proves that kids don�t become rapists because of nudity jokes on TV (like Ramna 1 / 2) or mass murderers because of seeing the full nature of violence (like Gundam Wing). They are messed up because their parents and the people around them in general don�t give them enough individual reinforcement and encouragement.

**Warning, rant ahead, �head for the hills or you�ll be up to your armpits in martians!�**

To the contrary, adults create an independent culture of behavior they�d NEVER want their kids (or even their younger siblings) to repeat or imitate. How can you expect kids to grow up �decent� when so many role-model adults they see are sleazy liars, drug-users, opportunists, spouse-abusers, alcoholics, and models with eating-disorders?

Seriously, Bill Clinton is a well-liked President because he looks good on camera. He is also well-liked because we are all fat and happy, due to Congress and the Private Sector�s rebuilding of the American economy. He didn�t ruin that, so we like him. (Sorry to BC fans out there, but the President doesn�t make the laws, and is not more than a Fraction of a percent responsible for this booming economy.) He�s such a well-liked public figure � and yet what kind of F---ed up message is that sending to our kids?

What we say with our mouths: �Yes Johnny, it IS wrong to break your wedding vows, commit sexual harassment, lie under oath, and take bribes ��

But what we say with our irresponsible actions, our explicit opinions, and our implicit condoning: �� But the rules don�t apply as long as you are rich, influential, and (most of all) popular, and people won�t punish or dislike you for breaking the rules if your convince them not to. Even if you are completely irresponsible and dishonest, you can still grow up to President of the United States.�

What kind of messages do we send to our little brothers and sisters when our favorite character on the �Real World� marathon is Ruthie, the chronic alcoholic?

�Drinking makes you cool. Drunk and stupid is an OK way to go through life.�

What kind of message do we send to our kids when we automatically scream at their teachers whenever little Johnny gets into trouble academically or socially?

�Someone else is always at fault. A paid authority figure is always responsible to make everything right in life, or they aren�t doing their jobs.�

The list goes on and on � so few Reasonable people bothers to tell kids (or anyone else) the way things �Ought� to be or reminds them of their responsibilities for fear of being �uncool� or being seen as �preachy.�

And what do you leave them with for guidance? Behavior you�d be ashamed if your mother ever caught you acting that way, and freaks and weirdos on the outskirts of the militant Left and Right. That�s no environment to raise a child in � and yet that is the very society we so rawly expose them to, with no guidance, and expect them to �turn out alright.�

They WON�T �turn out alright� not enough of them. The ones that do are going to do it no thanks to Society as a whole, that�s for sure. MY generation isn�t �turning out alright.� Many of us have had a lot less active parenting in our lives than the generations before us. Also, we�ve grown up in an age idealizing greed, individualism bordering on complete self-absorption, and full of commercial empires hell-bent on making a dollar off appealing to our lowest and most immature instincts and wants. Self-sacrifice and meeting obligations doesn�t come out of habit any more, or even social expectation.

Systems that promote responsibility are marginalized and ridiculed while the bigger system of Society rewards the unethical and exploitative. And when we DO expose our kids to any kind of civic duty or value, it is most commonly some wacked-out special interest group with a tunnel-vision idea of ethical priorities. Extremists in groups like environmentalism, civil-rights, anti-censorship, or the abortion fight, people who don�t see anything (like other people�s rights to life, dignity, or even free-speech to the contrary) as being more important than achieving their particular goal are NOT good examples to give our children a sense of ethics and social responsibility.

And un-censoring everything won�t fix it either. It�s not the exposure or lack that is a problem, it is the lack of values and guidance. Throwing a 4� tall munchin into a 8� deep pool or a 20� deep pool doesn�t make it any more likely they�ll learn to swim. Putting them out there with an instructor is the only way to increase their chances to avoid drowning out there.

The result? A bulk population of lazier and more selfish bast@$%s generation after generation, with those who actually have some sort of need for something greater than themselves becoming cause-heads and fanatics.

*deep breath*

And with all this going on out there, people have the Utter Gall, to propose that censoring out �mature� material from television will solve the problems of America�s youth. Instead of educating our children, we try to keep them ignorant of such issues in the home.

Of course, then they learn about them from the 7 O�Clock news, the internet, the encyclopedia, or just from being exposed to other people in school or later in adolescence. And they learn this without the benefit of a guardian who has any clue or cares that the kid is confronting these issues.

So then Why do we try to take all the �mature� content out of their viewing?

Because we honestly don�t want to get caught in a corner with any of the dreaded na�ve children�s questions. Honestly, we don�t want the responsibility of being examined so critically by a child to be setting the right examples. Honestly, we are selfish little twerps that want the TV to be a baby-sitter. We are fools who want our sons and daughters we don�t have time for (and little brothers and sisters we treat like so much excess baggage) to do as we say (when we bother to talk to them) and not what we do.

You�re so worried about what your kids might be watching, why don�t you ASK them what they are watching? Watch with them? Explain those things you think they might get mislead or confused about? Or GOD FORBID throw the damn idiot-box out the window and replace it with something a little more controlled and healthy for them?

There WAS life before TV, you know. TV didn�t ruin America either. It is our complete abuse of and irresponsibility with Television that has compounded in this irresponsible and escapist culture we live in. What kind of a country do we live in when people will sleep in without furniture, food, or clothing for their kids, but will still manage to have cable TV and cigarettes?

And ultimately, this kind of censorship we see on American-dubbed anime and the like is the result of this escapism. It is escapism from parenting. It is escapism from setting a good example with your life. Escape from our responsibilities.

�It takes a village to make a Village Idiot.�

Toku Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 11:08:18 PM
IP: 1cust61.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Quickie for this evening ...

Airwalker: I've said it before, I'll say it again ... the series that came closest (for me) to Slayers is Trigun, on the comedy scale. Nothing romantic in it ... yet. (only two volumes are available legally in the US right now, "The $$60,000,000 Man" and "Lost Past," seven episodes in total.)

Stephen: Good to see another Galaxy High viewer! Incidentally, XenaTrek pointed out to me on e-mail that the show truthfully aired in '86.
Oh, and incidentally ... the only eps I really can recall completely are one when Doyle was knocked unconscious in a hockey game and started growing uncontrollably, and then there was the ep with the Brain Drain.
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 10:52:45 PM
IP: 216.28.101.172

Spike: Why didn't you mention that you won the monthly contest on renderotica.com? <G>
(check it out! The winning picture was done by -Spike-)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 10:38:10 PM
IP: t1-27.visitus.net

**RP HERE**

Mij and Jim Noying look at Black Tiger, who has frozen in his tracks. "Power level of 250,000? How could the FOURTH member of the ten have that much power?"
Jim shrugs. "So? We can handle that, you've been training hard, right?"
"Not THAT hard dad... You don't seem to understand... The strongest fighter Earth has in its defense was SJ when he absorbed the spirit bomb fighting the cyber smurf... And his power was only 50,000. And that was AFTER gaining some of the powers of Athena. Even with every secret trick I have up my sleeve, I won't be able to top 30,000... Even at our absolute best, the enemy is 5 times stronger than us... And each successive member of the ten is at LEAST twice as strong as the previous... Even if by some miracle we beat number 4... Number one will be at least 20 times stronger than any of us... ANd probably more than that..."
"So?" Jim asked, not quite getting it.
Black Tiger threw off his helmet, then removed his silver armor piece by piece. "I'm not going to fight in a battle that can not be won. I give up. Go try and save the world yourself."

**END RP**

Doug- The purpose of power levels is to give a basic gauge of how much the villain outclasses the heroes, (or vice versa when the battle nears its end.) Usually though, skill IS a factor. Raw power alone will not win a fight... But if the raw power advantage is in the enemy's favor to a large enough degree, problems arise... The only problem with Gasper's early power levels was that he would have hopelessly outlassed the other heroes AND villains by a huge degree, and what would have been the fun in that?

By the by, sorry I missed ya at A-kon... I suppose a large part of it was, last Aaron and I'd heard you weren't going so we weren't looking for you...

Airwalker- PEhaps Slayers NEXT or Slayers TRY? The later series are actually better... But that failing, if you're looking for comedy/romance, the first season or two of Ranma is great. (The later seasons not to such a great degree...) But all in all, you'll be very hard-pressed to top Slayers, its still far and away the best comedy/drama I've ever seen.

Tenchi Muyo- What its about depends on which series. Tenchi basically rebooted from scratch after every season with an all new continuity... But the basic premise is normal guy Tenchi is stuck with 6 women who are nuts about him... In other versions of the series its only two of the girls, and in one series, Tenchi isn't even in the show! But overall, the three Tenchi movies are the best Tenchi has to offer... ANd they're pretty good ta boot.

Gasper- Beast Machines ruined the Beast Wars story for me personally, since they are basically discarding almost all continuity an d plot threads established in Wars... ANd ReBoot will be finishing up its loose threads in 2 straight to television movies. Yipee!

As far as Four is concerned... Four has only one weakness I'm aware of, naturally I'm not going to reveal that just yet. Otherwise, her nastiest attack is one that just drags you straight into hell and leaves you there, without having to go to the fuss of killing you first.

Naturally, your character's power can grow, otherwise we'd all be in trouble. But for now, your best best is probably to escape and wait for the mass battle that'll start next week. (And by the way, attacks from ANY series are permissable within reason...)

DPH- Keyboard over 300 pages in 30 minutes? Easy, just hold down the return button for 29 minutes, stop, select all, copy, and then paste a couple times.

Animated shows that go on for more than 3 seasons, are serious, and have continuity... Many animes do that actually... Dragonball, Ranma (to a degree) Sailor Moon (to a degree) and Slayers. Heck, Dragonball went for over 500 episodes and for 10 years...

Titan AE is a big animation product from a non Disney studio that will utilize state of the art animation merged with CGI and has a PG rating. For that alone it looks promising.

Matthew- They'll probably explain Haruka's flirting with girls the same way they do with the grandfather, and the same way Dragonball does with Roshi and Kullilin... In otherwords, they'll ignore it and pretend it isn't there.

CrzyDemona- Well, I'm not a woman, but I liked Gaav myself... (But Zelgadis is still da man!)

Robby
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 10:33:48 PM
IP: spider-we042.proxy.aol.com

AIRWALKER!!

I almost missed the Anime talk!!

Tenchi Muyo - CUTE ANIME! It depends on what series or movie that you are watching as to the full plot. Basic scenario... a young man (Tenchi Masaki) living with his widower father and Grandfather. Suddenly, women are litterally droping from the skies. Ryoko the lovely (and quite forward) Space Pirate, two Jurai princesses, two space police women, and Washu the greatest scientific genius in the universe. It is mostly how Tenchi deals with all this attention and wanted and unwanted advances of the womenfolk. it is really cute and a LOT of fun! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

Other Anime I adore and recommend that fall under the "Comedy, Romantic Comedy" catagory:

Sorcerer Hunters
Dirty Pair
Ruin Explorers (VERY Slayers-ish)
Birdy the Mighty
Utena (has it's humorous moments)
Ushio and Tora
Metal Angel Marie (HALARIOUS!)

eh... well.. my two cents on it! :)

FUN STUFF! I seem to be the only woman I know who likes Gaav from Slayers. So I decided that he and Jae'elae needed to meet up. (BEFORE Philbrizo turned him into hamburger)

clicky to see pic!! :) (Ugh.. Jae'elae ended up looking less like me and more like Gourry and Naga had a kid together) :P

CrzyDemona - [<--- Jae'elae meets up with Gaav from Slayers!]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 10:21:11 PM
IP: mp2e8.ez2.net

Hey!

I put some more art up on ebay. This time it is from "Vampire Princess Miyu"

If you haven't seen this anime... it is a GREAT one.

CLICKY to see the auction! :)
CrzyDemona - [<-- Ebay Auction!]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 09:21:02 PM
IP: 209.150.94.58

*skips back in, with a chibi-Ootori Akio on her back and in a very good mood*

Ohayo!

SJ: sorry bout snapping at you, I see now you were joking. Unintentionally pushed button, tha's all.

Good Anime's to get into:

Revolutionary Girl Utena (it's my current "thing")

Tenshi Ni Narumon

Mara
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:56:40 PM
IP: spider-we083.proxy.aol.com

Haruka & Michiru as sisters>> GAH! As someone who has watched most of Sailor moon S subbed(downloaded the episodes a while back, haven't gotten around to watching the last few) I must say that I am apalled. Haruka and Michiru are obviously not related. And how are they going to explain Haruka's flirting with girls? Or are they going to butcher the dialogue?

Personally, I prefer the way Media Blasters' did Magic Knight Rayearth. They kept it as close as possible to the original(I downloaded a subbed version of episode 1 long before I got the tapes of MKR S1) right down to translating the OP theme and they didn't gloss over Presea's death, right down to leaving in the cross the girls put up following the battle with Ascot's first creature where others might have edited video and dialogue to make it seem that Presea survived the fight. Heh, I hear Starblazers did that, taking scenes from elsewhere in the series to make it seem that certain characters who were killed in the original actually survived.

**Whew** Sorry, I tend to ramble when I'm mad. OK, now that I've discharged that anger..

**RP- The TEN SAGA**
As Gasper was struck by #4's blast, a sonic boom was heard as the wedge shape of the Dragon Wing flew in fast. Dragon warrior had picked up Gasper's signal moments before and the Wing was already unfolding to reveal the metal form of Dragon Warrior. He dropped free as the clamp released, falling fast, igniting his boot jets after he was 3/4 of the way down. He hit hard, landing on his feet.

[Only evil neeed fear,] he proclaimed [When the Dragon Warrior is near] He sized up his opponent then addressed her directly [Number Four, is it? I give you one chance to leave peacefully before I am forced to inflict harm on you.]

Dragon Warrior's armor was already in battle mode, his defense shield up and his weapon systems primed. He hoped that if she chose to fight, that the recent upgrades to his armor would be enough.
**End RP for now**

DPH>> If you don't mind going to Japan, I think there are several shows like you described over there. Sailor Moon is one, Gundam is another(though actually, I'm not sure if Gundam counts since it's several series, not just one)
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:32:46 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-112-159.bellatlantic.net

firestrom>>thanks for the info, I really appreciate it

winterwolf>>that site is great, thankyou

coyote>>I was eyeballing those camras at work the other day our store has 4 or 5 differnt models- but I had no idea where to begin to rate them, and there is one coming up on ad that seems like a good price, but I need to educate myself first before I make a choice. thanks for the imput I apreciate it.
delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
twin falls, idaho
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:31:10 PM
IP: twin58rr.magiclink.com

**RP RELATED**
Coming soon, a character archive for the BFTS RP. Roldox and Winterwolf, I'd like your agreement with the content and the organization method before I link it to.

RP Crossover - Rodlox suggested a crossover of characters between the RPs. I'd like to know how the writers of the other RP feel about it. This would involve some planning on both sides.
**END RP RELATED**

**PRIVACY COMMENTS**
I went to buy gasoline today. In addition to requiring a photo id, the clerk also wanted my thumbprint on my check. Any other places around requiring fingerprints when paying by check? I mean, sheesh, is hot-checking writing so rapant that fingerprints should be required when paying by check? I am not going back to that place even if the prices are lower. Some places I have bought gas at require a work phone number. Is not a signature with a photo id good enough to accept a check? I mean, it is extremely hard to forge a signature and near impossible to forge mine (I have been accused of having a doctor's handwriting.)
**END PRIVACY COMMENTS**

**ANIMATION COMMENTS**
I would want to which was cheaper to produce per episode: Seinfield (during the last season) or new computer animated show.

Dilbert (the cartoon) helped break down some of the beliefs that animation=kids. Speaking of which, what happened to it?

I would like to see a new animated tv show have an excellent plot (if something happens during one episode, it has an effect for the rest of the series), multitude of characters, and surive for more than 3 seasons. If such an animated show exists, tell me about it.

I am going to avoid the Sailor Moon discussion.
**END ANIMATION COMMENTS**

If anyone can clean up the lyrics I write to "This is a long post afterall", email me cleaned up lyrics. I will post that warning when I realize a post of mine is going over five kilobytes long. It took a lot of work to find the lyrics to the original song.

**TITAN AE the Movie Comments**
I keep hearing so many promos for it. Can someone please clue me in about what is supposed to make this movie so special or is being over hyped up?
**END TITAN AE the Movie Comments**

**LOGIC TEST**
I did this once a few years ago and I want to know if anyone else knows how to do this: keyboard over 300 pages in less than 30 minutes.
**END LOGIC TEST**

**JOB RANT**
This is funny but true. When I was a student (before I graduated), my reputation preceded me on campus. At least half the time (exaggeration) I was in a computer lab I would get asked to help someone with programming problems. The funny thing is I outdid a teacher in programming (The teacher had no business teaching programming at all, IMO). Now, I can not get a job doing what I want to do because I do not have enough experience. Talk about irony.
**END JOB RANT**

Janine, I have told by many people that things get better when children move out from under parents. I asked because my dad drives me nuts when he is around.

**PARENT RANT**
It is near impossible to live with a non computer literate parent who does not understand I can save more time searching for jobs online than driving around.
**END PARENT RANT**

If I keep this up, one of these days I will have a post bigger than five kilobytes before I write RP.

**BFTS RP continues**
"Once you are sure of your aim, fire by pulling the trigger" said Elaine.

"Of course, make sure your hearing protection device is turned on before firing." said Paula. Greg paused filming. "Alex, take your hood off and prepare to demonstrate how to turn it on. When I clap my hands twice, turn the hearing protection device off."

"Gotcha. When do I turn it on?" asked Alex.

"Follow me in the narration. Greg, are you ready now?" asked Paula.

"Yes, my lord," replied Greg sarcasticly

Paula ignored the tone of voice. "Start filming again. Watch while Greg demonstrates how to turn the hearing protection device on." Paula pauses speaking while Alex turns the device on. As soon as he is finished she continues speaking. "When your hearing protection device you will not be able to hear a thing. Make sure you have a signal worked out to tell you to turn the device off before turning in on. Please watch as Alex demonstrates how to turn the device off." Paula pauses speaking and claps twice. Alex then turns the device off. "If there any questions about the use of the device, ask ahead of time. Cut."

Greg turns the camera off.

"Ok everybody can leave now but Jennifer. Jennifer, you can leave when everything is put up." said Paula.

30 minutes later

"Everything worked. Since device #3 provided to be adequate protection I ordered 11 more of it." said Henry Rogers.

"When will they arrive?" asked Fred Hitman.

"Tomorrow." said Henry.

"And are the training videos ready?" asked Fred.

"As soon as I finish some editing, they will be ready," said Greg.

"Excellent. Paula and Alex will choose which of our members get to go to the party. Don't pick someone high up in the gang in case they get sent to jail." said Fred.

"I'll make sure that the order can't be traced back at anyone person in the gang," said Paula.

"Good. Are there any other contigency plans we need to work on?" asked Fred.

"What kind of orders should I tell them to follow in the event of unseen wide spread equipment failure?" asked Paula.

"Hmm. Head back. Make sure to tell them to leave once the house is fully engulfed in flames." said Fred.

"Yes, sir." said Paula.

"One more thing. Greg, I want to videotape it from a distance. You are to remain invisible to our own side." said Fred.

"Yes sir." replied Greg.

DC quickly teleported away. He had used a cloaking spell to allow himself to observe the meeting. He was pretty impressed with this organization.

"One more thing: anybody who rats us out before the battle starts will not leave. Paula, make sure the 12 are told they will be needed at the time of the battle. I want those 12 in isolation from the moment they receive the orders until the assignment is completed. Alex, triple check every name Paula selects and then triple check the rest of our gang. We don't want any undercover cops or government agents on the inside of our gang before we pull off this attack." said Fred Hitman.
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:08:28 PM
IP: max1-61.cwy.cei.net

Greetings all... some bad news. My computer went "PFIL!" when I tried to get a new drive installed, so it's in the shop getting fixed. Dunno when I might get it back (tonight I hope)... but if anyone can get a word to the TGS staff and to those I know on the Beast Wars/Machines RPG forum, tell them I will be back ASAP...

Dang it, I hate it when everything goes up in spades...

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:01:19 PM
IP: m127.ieway.com

Ps. for those that asked, the trip was grand. My family is all doing well though my grandparents are finnaly starting to show their age (late 70's all four of them). A vacation was desperately needed but it is good to be back home.
Mec
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:59:43 PM
IP: usr21.mtwest.net

Hey guys
Sorry about the multiple posts!:(
Got another email address!
brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com
So you can also mail me there too.
C-YA Later!!!:)
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:58:29 PM
IP: usr38.cqc.com

Brooklyn: okay, thanks.

Brooklyn: <<Thanks a bunch for pointing out the brownies!! They're nummy!!!!!:D Anybody got any milk?>> thanks a lot....you just reminded me of when somebody in this CR commented on the perfect symetry of PETA members with bovine traits.

Rodlox
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:55:30 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**Enter Mecord**
Prepare for a long post.

Woo hoo! After a long wait, I finally got the job I wanted!

Here's something many in here will appreciate.

I had a strange dream last night (as if that's anything new). Well, more accurately, this morning. My family has a cabin in the mountains that we visited this weekend. In the dream the cabin and the woods surrounding were not exact. For one, while standing on the porch there was a road leading away ahead and to the right a bit. Off to the right, there was a cleft in the earth, a pit or trench that, even though it was narrow enough to jump, was somehow impassible. Well inside the cabin was the A-team of all people. Murdock was on the porch with a metal barrel lighting a few pyrotechnics. They were trying to lure in the enemy, whoever they were. It didn�t seem to be working so they called it off and Mr. T (for some reason I�ve forgotten his character name, though I remembered it in the dream) came out of his hiding place down below. That�s when two motorcycles, a few footmen, and a truck come roaring down the road with guns blazing. Mr. T fires his beefed up assault rifle and falls back while the rest of the team and I lay down some cover fire. I left the cabin and took cover behind some boulders to the right to attack their flank. Next thing I know we are bombarded by energy weapons. Across the chasm a flying purple T-rex emerges from the trees, it�s Transmetal Megatron. Also flying through the trees firing their weapons at us were the rest of the Predacons. Fortunately they can�t cross the chasm. Firing a couple haphazard shots I seek better cover among the rocks. I come upon a strange scene. A table with contour maps of the area with five Gundam pilots calmly discussing the battle. Quatra (did I spell that right) explains his plan. It seems their Gundams are now equipped with a slave drive, not to different from the mobile doll system, but controlled remotely by the pilots and limited in ability. They are going to have their Gundams attack the transformers from behind and push through their ranks and over the chasm (for some reason the gundams can cross), where the pilots will board and� well, you can well guess the rest, especially with Hiro and the Wing Zero. Unfortunately the rest of the dream was lost in the discordant lament of my alarm clock. Alarm clocks are evil.

Archwolf>> No you never said anything anti-Mormon to me. But can I give a suggestion? Too bad I�m going to give it anyway. :) If this lady thinks that being Mormon makes her better than others, use the LDS doctrine against her, it�s much more effective at turning her arguments into a pathetic nothingness. Okay that sounded a bit cruel, but maybe she�ll get the idea and start living what she believes. Even though people of different religions don�t get along, the religions themselves usually teach that they should love their neighbor, enemy, or whatever. The Catholic Pope and the LDS President have met before and seemed to get along well. Look up in the bible warnings against pride or lessons in humility (Jonah and the whale comes to mind). If you can get a hold of a Book of Mormon find references were people are destroyed or humbled because they think they are better then other people (or better yet, get her to show you where they are). Ask her about the Pride cycle (people are humble, people get religious, things go good, they get prideful, things get really bad, people become humble, people get religious�). You can tell her to get off her Rameumptom (pronounced Ram-(long)e-ump-tum) which is basically a pedestal where people pray something like �Thanks God for making us better than others. We know you�ll save us and send everyone else to hell.� Or that�s the general gist of it. These people I think were killed. Don�t get me wrong, I don�t want you to destroy the girl�s faith or confidence, but with the right approach she might learn something and she�s more likely to learn something if it�s from her own religion than from an opposing religion. I can�t really blame a religion for the conduct of its members, nobody�s perfect and hypocrisy is inevitable. It just irritates me when someone, no matter what the faith, feels they are better than anyone else. It�s not so bad here in Mormon central because everyone just expects you to be Mormon so nobody thinks differently (which can be annoying). How long has she been a member of that church anyway? Hope I gave you some useful ideas, let me know how it turns out.

Ho boy, only one reply and that was a whopper. I think I�ll quit while I have some daylight and throw in an RP.

*****RP Time*****
Senthet cast an exasperated look to the sky, �Now how do we find Mecord?�
Warpmind shrugged, �Well, um� we could ask her.�
�Who?�
Winterblade stepped from the adjoining alley trailed closely by a cloaked figure. The cloak was strange, it seemed to be one solid color, but what color that was none could say. Something tugged at the back of Senthet�s mind, but slipped away. Whatever the cloaks properties might be, they didn�t have long to ponder about it, for it disappeared and Mecord collapsed to the ground.
With a gasp, Senthet rushed to his side. Not half a second later she held a small dagger at Winterblade�s thorat.
�What have you done to him?� Senthet demanded.
A low growl emitted from Winterblade, �I did nothing elf. I return him as he was returned to us from Thailog�s company.�
�And SJ? The trapped spirit?� asked Warpmind.
�Soon will be released.�
Senthet lowered the dagger and returned to Mecord. Mec stirred and opened his eyes. Upon resting his bleary eyes upon Senthet he all but leapt to his feet.
�Senthet your safe!�
This received a bemused look, �Of course I�m safe.�
Mecord looked around, �Where are we?�
�Atlanta, remember?�
�No, last thing I remember is facing Beelzebub with the mastergem.�
�What about Thailog? Do you remember meeting with Thailog at all?�
�Thailog? I wasn�t planning on meeting with him for another month.�
Senthet looked helplessly at Warpmind and Winterblade.
*****End RP*****

Mecord
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:55:14 PM
IP: usr21.mtwest.net

*******Begin RP-Ten saga*********

*One minute and counting before target area entered.* The femanine voice of the Stormrunner said as Gasper rummaged around for the last bit of equipment. Close to the traget zone, he was going on a suicide mission, as this woman had much more power then he'd dreamed of in his years as one of Earth's Defenders with the LOF. Finding the small comm device, he fixed the scouter and transmitter to his head, and took up his spear. Made of a ore that he was lucky enough to find that was maliable enough, he pressed a button on it's shaft, and it quickly folded into the size of a lightsaber pummel. Hooking the latch to his belt, he made his way to the ramp, and hit the open button.

*Good Luck Master, I will be awaiting your return.* the voice said, as the ship slowed to a speed where he could jump out.
"See ya soon hon," a term of endearment to his partner of sorts. "If I don't come back, your new owner is ZP." The ship beeped a confirmation. Holding on to one of the struts, his vision focused on the small figure that was looking up at him. Closing his eyes, he focused his ki energy, and jumped out of the YT-1400 Corellian Vessel. Flaring his Ki up, he sped down to the battle ground, and landed on his feet, facing the woman. Clenching his fists, then opening them, he looked her in the eye and spoke.

"As a duly noted represenitive of the United Nations, and as a Dragoon in the forces of Earth's Protectors, I order you to cease and desist all activities. Vacate the planet, or you damn well better believe I'll help ya too." His confidence stood as she looked him up and down, and held back a laugh.

"You wish to fight me?"
"We can do this the easy way, or the hard way Lady. Personally, I want to do it the easy way. I have friends and co-workers to get back to, and I'm sure you don't need to destroy this planet."

"What I need is to get rid of the likes of YOU!!!!!!!!" And with that, she shot out a large blast of energy that was now heading towards the Dragoon...

*****HOLD RP*******

Hey everyone, sorry for not being around, but I had one of those nights where you just need to go to bed early. Anyway, how is everyone? I just started Golf, a 1 credit class today, so that should be easy. Did it when I was a kid, might as well pick it back up again.

A couple things.

Galaxy High, great show. That's a good one.
Sailor Moon. While I"m not a fan, my ex-girlfriend was, so I got to see one of the movies. After researching it....I learned of U and N's little affair, and it's understandable, but this causes concern, because Serena is going to have a Helluva a time sometime soon, and she actually considers ******SPOILER*********Suicide, or commits it,**********SPOILER********** I can't remember, but I fear that they might not remain true to the show, and that whole plot line.

Beast Wars/Machines--I really wish I knew what was going on with that, because they had Op. Prime in it, when they found The Ark. Plus, I guess Machines is just Screwed up to the max now, but I would like to see it someday. Truthfully, I like the CG, but they shoulda finished the Loose ends in Reboot....Boy I wish they did.

DBZ note of the day----I saw Yamcha take on the Saibamen, and well, that was just bloody cheap in how he died...I mean, come ON!!!!!!!!! This has been your DBZ note of the day.

Power Levels. Boy, I really started a fire on this one...sorry. Anyway, my thoughts. Meauring them does get high, but while you're under Trunks Saga, Before the Androids, you can get pretty reasonable. I guess another thing is, with only a 24K power level, and this #4 being about 225K, it's gonna be interesting, considering....thus I can only assume we will be allowed to grow.

Weakness's in characters--Right of the bat, I'm too humble, too trusting, and am dead in the water Literally, since my element is Fire and Lightning. That's extreme, as I try to be careful and have some immunity, but I get hurt just a little extra. Also, this lady could do some damage, if I'm only 10% her level. I'm not invincible, if that answers the question.

Other things, to the Creator or the Ten, we will need to know stats, attacks, weakness's, strengths, ETC, to battle her with. Maybe if you reveal them slowly, we will really have fun. Anyway, that's all I have to say, on with the end of the RP for my part today.

*********Resume RP***************

He vansihed to the side, ending up in another part, and threw up a Big Guard Spell, getting some shielding and Regenration to help him. Looking at her, he lost sight just a second after making contact, and immediatly dodged to the side, avoiding a blast from behind. Immediately, he pulld back his arms, and threw out three small Energy shots, each angled so if she blocked one, she couldn't avoid the other two. The first hit, just above her torso, where she held her arms up, the second swung to the side, and third hit her right leg. A small explosion occured, and Gasper waited for the dust to clear. Putting a hand to his scouter, he set the transmit button to on, and began recording to the Satillite above him, the one Stormrunner had launched minutes before the battle. He couldn't make out a shape as the dust cleared, but he could hear her laughter.

"Little fool. You are no where NEAR a match for me. I'll enjoy crushing you like the gornt you are." Turning he found her, and scanned for a quick reading on the scouter. *Please be lower then 225,000!* he thought to himself. Looking through the eyepiece, he watched the numbers stop whirling, and then lost half the confidence he came in with. "225,000. I'm dead. Storm! Transmit Alpha signal on all frequancies in a 100 mile radius!" There was a chirp, and he began. "To anyone out there, I've engaged battle with Four, and am in need of serious assistance! Please respond!!!!!!!!" And with that, he shut off the transmitter just in time to take the blow from 4's energy blast, sending him hurling to the ground....

****END RP*****
Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:43:28 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Hey guys!!!
Quick responses
<Doug>
When I get the first season mapped out, A posting I will go!
I want to do a lot of work on Irish Lit. to bring the same realism to this clan's story as was in the Manhattan clan's story. Ideas I was playing around with were: Bringing Cucullain back.Have him borrow their gargbeast.Introduce a few tidbits of Irish myth. And other things.
<Winterwolf>
Did ya drop off the face of the earth or what man!!!
Seriously it would be cool to here the progress if any!!:)
Drop me a line.
<Emambu>
How are you liking it here in the CR?!!
Thanks a bunch for pointing out the brownies!! They're nummy!!!!!:D Anybody got any milk?

<Rodlox>
I'll email you the first episode of Irish clan when it's all done!!

That's all for now see yas tomorrow!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:36:39 PM
IP: usr38.cqc.com

**RP - the TEN Saga**
"Need help?" a male voice asks them.
Kit and Doug spin around. "Who're you?" Doug asks, then turns his head to Kit, "Do we know him?" Kit shakes her head _no_.
"You can call me Anthony - it's as good a name as any other."
"What is it you want?"
"Something to do...this competition of yours, it sounds interesting. I'd like to help out, if you let me."
Kit considers this person. He's a bit on the slender side, not really thin...but who knows what powers he might have.
**END RP**{how's that?}.

Airwalker: <<Two alien groups on one planet were at war with each other, something happened to the planet that forced the entire population of both factions to go into cryogentic slumber, and while they are asleep the supercomputer monitering them creates huge robotic bodies and downloads the minds of some of the two factions into them.>>

hmmmm.....sounds _suspiciously_ like a possible backstory for _the_Transformers_.

Sailor Moon Debate/Discussion: No Comment.

somebody here wants to take on Demona with no hands? {okay, i need to re-word that!}. cats can't be _that_ bad...can they?

{yeah, but i'm allergic to them, so i wouldn't know}.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:33:25 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***Kyryn sneaks in yawning***

Hello, all!

Well, I'm back from A-kon. I ran into Skippy and Aaron and Robby briefly (and almost literally!). I spent most of the con running like crazy since I'm one of the Assistant Staff Heads for Guest Relations. I was lucky to make two fast passes through the dealer's room (got some more stuffed Totoros and a couple of beautiful pics by an artist named Nene) and a pass through the art show. Other than that, I spent most of the con making sure that the guests and the attendees enjoyed the heck out of themselves. *grin* And I'll be doing it again next year.

We've got one last guest to see off to the airport this evening and then the con is officially over for me until next year.

Waves at everyone.

Later all!

***Kyryn yawns and leaves***

Spike> Sorry you missed the con, but some things are more important in life (wink)!

Doug and Kit> I'm sorry that I missed you two at the con. If you come again next year, ask a staffer where Beth from Guest Relations is. Thats the fastest way to find me at A-kon. Almost everyone there knows me as Beth of Beth and Mike.

We had a great con. I've been told that our badge sales ran somewhere between 3500-4000. That's up from last year.

Emambu> Welcome!
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:13:26 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Well, now that A-Kon is over, can I expect any of you guys toshow up at any other cons here around town?

I know there is a Hollywood Expo comingup thefourth weekend of this month and another con will be held at the Hyatt over Thanksgiving weekend, and there may be an AnimeFest sometime in the fall. Is anyone planning on attending?
Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 06:20:54 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-09.ultravision.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hiya, gang! No, I haven't disappeared (a chorus of "darn-its" arise from the depths of the CR, and Niamhgold just grins). I'm back and in full force!

Winterwolf: Please, don't apologize for reading Shadowrider's fic! In fact, I would have encouraged you to do that anyways! :) He put a lot of work into that story.

Gside: Your brother is at an art and design school? (is he the same one that made you an uncle?). If I may ask, what's he major in? Ceramics, two-dimensional, or graphics/computer art? (Him being your brother, I half-way expect him to be majoring in CGI or such... ;) )

Caliope! Whoo-hoo, you've returned! Hola and welcome back!

Mec: Welcome back to you, as well. How was the trip?

Shadowrider: Glad you liked the cider ;) I think the next treat I'll bring in will be a huge flag-shaped cake on my birthday ;) Your story's doing very well!

Janine: I sympathize with you. If you're interested in a certain field, you should ask your parents if they would let you get an internship at a local business (wonderful way to get your foot in the door; and if you're a night owl like you say, I'm sure many places will be willing to hire you during those hours--plus, you might be able to work out hours which will still allow you to watch your brother, if you must). The only one who can make a decision about your life is _you_ ! :D

Niamhgold signing out,

Niamhgold
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 04:58:11 PM
IP: lac-flex106.ncia.net

**RP HERE**

The screen comes on to show a small black Fiat speeding away from Ankara International Airport, Fasil behind the wheel and Bessus next to him. Erin, Mist, Gubio, and Samson (the Airedale) are in the back. "Do not worry," Fasil is assuring his daughter. "Those terrorists will not be catching up to us. I am an embassy driver, remember? We are trained to lose tails!" "That's very good," Gubio smiles, "so, uh, where are we going?" "My home, of course," Erin replies, smiling. "You're going to meet my mother, Hassan, and Patty. You do want to do that, right?" Gubio thinks for a moment, then shrugs. "Sure, no time like the present." Erin frowns, but Bessus and Fasil laugh. "You have jitters about meeting her family, huh?" Bessus chuckles. "Don't worry, nothing bad should come of it. They're very good people." "I know how you feel," Fasil adds. "When I first met Mary's family, it was almost not good." He sighs, then shakes his head as he turns back to the road. Erin turns to Gubio maintaining her grimace despite her father's words, but before she can say anything, Mist's loud hiss and Samson's bark interrupt her. "What is it?" Bessus and Gubio ask in the same breath, just as a stream of bullets spang off the car's sides. "That Land Rover back there is after us!" Fasil shouts, pointing at the rearview mirror. "The shots came from it! I wonder who this could be?" "They have to be connected to those terrorists from the airport," Erin growls. "I guess they are after us!" "But why would they be after us as opposed to all the other people in Ankara?" Gubio muses. "Unless they're connected to Thailog�" "Who is Thailog?" Bessus asks. "We can explain and speculate later, boys!" Erin replies, drawing a stick grenade from her pocket just in case as another volley of bullets hits the car. "Right now we have to lose this tail!" "Leave that to me!" Fasil shouts, then slams the gas pedal to the floor and shoots through the market at high speed, scared people and animals fleeing as he crashes right through several stall displays and keeps right on going. The Land Rover, the cursing Yevi and his shooter inside, is soon left far behind.

The screen display alters to an image of a large boardroom in Atlanta's Time-Warner Building, where Ted Turner and all his co-conspirators are sitting around a table. "Miss Lockdale," Ted orders a secretary. "Bring us all coffee." She nods and walks to get it, while Ted turns back to his associates. "Ladies and gentlemen," he says with a sigh, "I think you all know why I called this meeting." "It's about the timetable for our destruction of Atlanta as Lord Gothmenes ordered, right?" Geoffrey Fieger asks. Ted nods. "It is." "What?" asks Pat Robertson. "Do we need to postpone the planned apocalypse?" "Or speed it up?" counters Richard Simmons. "I think we should speed it up!" Susan Powter growls. "Let's stop the insanity and end the world now!" "Oh, can't we at least wait until I can see if I get to be President?" whines Al Gore. "Or until the current Elian mess-up is over? Castro and I have plans for that I've been concentrating on, you know." "You should have finished that sooner," Geraldine Laybourne growls. "A long time before now." "Well, forgive me, I'm sorry," Gore shrugs. "There were many issues involved, and�" "What Al means is," Maxine Waters cuts him off, "the whole mess never would have started if good radical Democrats like myself were in charge instead of boring jerks like him." Gore looks offended and is about to voice his protest when Steve Case quickly jumps in to cut him off. "Guys!" he snaps. "This meeting was not called for political debates! Ted, what did you want to tell us?" "Thank you, Steve," Ted says, then turns to address all of them. "We're moving up the timetable and delaying it," he declares. "I assume you're all aware of that broadcast from the group called the Ten?" "Oh yes," Gore rolls his eyes. "I saw that. It sounded ridiculous to me, it has to be a joke." "It's no joke, Al," snarls Laybourne. "Those demons are the most powerful beings in Hell, and if they're trying to take over the world�" "We don't need to worry," Fieger interrupts her. "Lord Gothmenes is one of them. I found that out when I was in Hell. You guys should know it, too." "We do know it," says Ted. "And we're counting on it. Of course, since Gothmenes is only Eight among the Ten, he's not as powerful as we'd like. Four and her superiors are in charge of this planned takeover." "So what are we going to do about them?" asks Case. "I doubt they'll want to make an alliance with us." "We're not going to do anything about them for now," Ted answers. "I've spoken with Lord Gothmenes, and he says he has a plan to take care of them." "And what's that?" Robertson asks. "Convert them to Christianity? Even I couldn't accomplish that with demons, they know I'm not really the good Christian I profess to be!" "I think many humans also are aware of that, Pat," Powter laughs, then looks back at Ted. "So what is our Great Lord's plan?" "He didn't say," Ted sighs. "He did say, though, that soon he will be the only one of the Ten left, and then, right after that becomes true, we're supposed to make our move." "Hmm," Mullah Omar speaks for the first time. "This soon? I had better start smuggling in my army now." "You do that, Mohammed," says Waters. "And don't worry about the border, it's still insecure." "As it always will be," Gore agrees. "Especially for undetected movement of illegal weapons and troops." "That's proved by how strong the militias are in this country," Fieger chuckles, then turns back to Ted. "Good plan." "Of course it's a good plan," Ted smiles. "Lord Gothmenes thought of it. So, Omar, you get the troops here. Al, you, Pat, and Maxine ready the political deadlock that will prevent the government from responding to them. Geraldine, Steve, and I will set up the communications blackout, while Susan, Richard, and Geoffrey keep getting the fire bombs ready and placing them around the city as planned. Soon Tecumseh will be sent to us from Hell to detonate them." The assembled demons all smile and cheer. "Here's your coffee, everyone," Miss Lockdale says just then, walking back in and setting a cup before each of them. "From what I could hear in the hall, it sounded like you had a productive meeting." "We certainly did," Fieger chuckles as they drink. "You weren't eavesdropping, were you?" "Oh, no," Shauna smiles. "Not me. I only heard the laughter." She grins to herself as the conspirators nod and chuckle again, obviously believing her, then departs the boardroom as quickly and quietly as she can while the screen goes blank.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Greetings CR dwellers. :) Or should I say, Greetings friends? Yeah, I like Greetings, friends better. I'll do it from now on. :) Sorry I haven't been here in a while, Kit and I just got back from A-Kon and Dallas Sunday and what with unpacking all the stuff we got and having to get ready for the beginning of summer classes tomorrow, I haven't had any time to post till now. And Kit won't till later in the week, as it usually goes. :( For those of you who are wondering what we thought of A-Kon, we enjoyed it. We are very glad we went. We got to see and meet many interesting people, pick up a few cool anime things (some T-shirts, videos, and action figures), and get more than a few nice pictures of the costume contest and other things that were going on. The one big let-down was that we somehow missed running into anyone from the CR who was also going while we were there. Kyryn, David G, Skippy, everyone else who went, we looked around for you, even tried to ask some people if they knew you and where to find you, we were excited to meet you, but�we didn't, and we're sorry. Hopefully there will be another chance in the future and at that time we'll all have better luck. <sigh> At least the convention was great, those who ran it did a great job setting up things. We enjoyed it, and would have more if we had gotten to see and meet our friends.

Fanfic Progress: Night of the Symbiotes Part 3, which I have decided will probably be the second season finale in my stories, is moving along very well. It's been going slowly lately, but I am making progress on it. The good guys who will be fighting Dormammu are together now, and ready to strike. I just need to do a couple tension-building scenes, and then I can begin the confrontation. :) Hope it comes off as well as I'm planning, I have a lot of characters to deal with in it and all (as I have throughout all my stories, but this one more than others <sigh>). It should all be done soon, hopefully by the end of the month. :)

Thanks to all who have congratulated me and Kit on the car. We are glad to have it too, especially for the low-low price it came at (only $1700, including needed repairs, which were completed today). So far it is working out great, and we hope to put it to good use in the future. It already got us to A-Kon, who knows what it could do next? :) The only problem with it so far is that paying for it has pretty much killed our chances of making the Gathering this year. Before it was unsure but didn't look good, now it definitely looks like we can't go. <sigh> Oh well, maybe in 2001. Anyone know yet where it will be then?

Brooklyn: I've been reading your posts in here, and the Irish Clan seems more intriguing to me than Future Tense. Of course I haven't read your fics, so I'm not sure which you're better at writing. :( Maybe I should read them, and then get back to you. <grin>

Shadowrider: Read your fic last night, I have to say you did a very good job on it. The writing was excellent, even if the translation of words was a little poor at times you had the characters down pat and developed their interaction well. Good job on the plot too, Nemo made an excellent antagonist and a very interesting villain (one far more intriguing and with a lot more potential than my own saga's powerful Illuminati-employed enforcer character, I hate to say :). Hope you soon write more so we can find out more about him and why he's after the clan. I gave your story five stars, some people may have given it four or less due to the translation (the only problem I saw with it, it was bad because at times it made the dialogue seem like it was not exactly what the characters should be saying. That I didn't like. Of course I know it's not your fault, but I have to point it out :( ). All in all, great story. Like Niamhgold, Christine, and others in here, you have talent. Hope you are able to keep exercising it, and that people will give you lots of feedback so you maintain the level of confidence necessary to do so. <grin> Also am glad Mononoke is doing so well in Italy, thanks for telling me of it. Good that you're finally going to get to see Buffy too. Hope you will write to us what episodes of it are broadcast and let us know what you think. :)

SJ: Well, it's good that your father is at least getting better and well enough to work even if we can't completely be sure he's well. Hope we and especially you can find out very soon. :) Thanks for the entertainment info, I too would like very much to see Jimmy Smits in Star Wars and Vin Diesel as Mr. Freeze (he would certainly do a way better job than Arnie!). Hope that Christopher Reeve can soon be cured too, glad that he's getting a little better. Not too excited about the Fourth Scream film, to make an understatement. I hated the first one, and have hated the two sequels as well. Hopefully this next one will bomb so badly Hollywood will give up the franchise (I'm praying for the same thing to happen with the Blair Witch sequel). Then they can go back to true classic horror films on the level of Poltergeist, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc. If they have to do horror films at all. Frankly, I haven't seen them do a good one in so long I'm wondering if it's even possible for them to pull off a masterpiece anymore. So maybe they should stop trying. :( Sorry about the traffic ticket, hope you can afford it and won't get any more.

Gasper: $ You're back in RP, I see. That's good. Hope you are able to enjoy it, even with the necessity of reducing your character's power level (by the way, I've never understood the concept of power levels. I know what they are, but still, shouldn't even characters with that much fighting skill have flaws that can be used to beat them down? <fingers crossed that they do> :). $

Rodlox: $ We are glad to have you along too, hope you enjoy the game. (And get the continuity down as well, Kit is not even in Las Vegas, so perhaps that was why your earlier post got ignored. :( Hope that won't happen again. Maybe next time you could put your RPs directly at the top and/or bottom of your posts instead of in the middle so they stand out more? Just a thought). If you look above, you might notice Kit and I have set up a possible adversary for your characters. Someone who went to Hell and returned, probably an escaped soul. :) E-mail us if you want further details. Wilek and Green Baron can also fill you in on who Fieger is, what happened to him, and what he's doing now. :) $

**MILD TIMEDANCER SPOILERS**

Good job on Abandonment, TGS Staff. I really liked its depiction of the Vietnam War and the people involved in it (unlike Kit, I don't personally know anyone who was there, but I have read enough stories about the time and place to like it very much despite the bad things that happened during it, and thus it was good to see it written so well. I enjoyed this depiction of it better than I did the one in Preacher, and that's saying an awful lot :). The characterization of Brooklyn, Celer, Robbins, and the others was good too, though we could have gotten a little more detail on the various soldiers to set them apart from one another in ways besides their names. Like Kit said, we should have seen more development of Celer's response to the future too, hope we get that very soon. His near-brush with death made me a little confused and angry at first, but Coyote's explanation of it settled my mind about it somewhat (I still think it would have been better to have Brooklyn doing CPR on him instead of having him just wake up, it would have developed their relationship and characters as well as the plot, but what we got was fine, I guess. <shrugs>). The end scene of the story with Brooklyn punching out the officer was very enjoyable and priceless. Hope that lousy jerk gets CUOed someday (all you military types should know what that means :). And of course I liked the dialogue from Robbins and seeing how he lost his sight (learning how he originally got so interested in mythology and folklore might make a good story someday too :). The illustrations were excellent too, especially the last two (which I have printed out here and have hanging on my fridge now, next best thing to T-shirts). Very vivid color and emotion in them. :) All in all, good job on this fic. I give it 8/10, thumbs up. Just wish there had been more character development, hope there will be next time around. :)

**END SPOILERS, BACK TO REPLIES**

Kaioto: $ Good job on your character's return to the RP, hope you will write more soon. $ Regarding gargoyle wings, Kit and I have made a good pair for her using wood struts and paper, but they can't cape, flap, or really do anything but hang. Yours sound much more ambitious and complicated. :) We wish you good luck with them, and hope you will let us see a picture when they're done. :) Same to you, Janine, on your wings.

Christine: Hope that Becca's cat is fine, sounds like you're having a devil of a time thanks to what happened with it at the vet's. <chuckle> Thanks for the good job on Avalon Mists to you and all who worked on it. The swimsuit pics were wonderful and the accompanying stories were great too (especially liked Spike's one with Sata turning Brooklyn to stone. :). The Random Garg Generator was a nifty feature, I hope that I can someday make good use of it (though probably not in my fanfic for at least a while, not until the Russian and Arabian clans show up anyway :). Michael Heitz's cartoons were also hilarious as always, and the other stuff in the magazine looked great too (I'm afraid I have yet to read it all, but the once-over I've given it now made it look great. :) Hope the next AvMists issue is just as much of an entertaining masterpiece. And good luck with getting your ankle cured (that injury sounds like it's surely no picnic) as well as writing Lylth and the next issue of Sabledrake, I'm looking very forward to reading them both. :)

Foxglove: Sorry you can't make us those T-shirts. :( Oh well, like I said above, we have the pics on our fridge and that's the next best thing. Also, maybe in the future we can get them onto shirts somehow. Who knows? <grin> Whatever happens, good luck with your job and your artwork. I hope that both keep being profitable and enjoyable for you. :)

Dungeons & Dragons: I hate to say I haven't been watching the reruns of this because the station with them doesn't come in very well on our TV. :( Not to mention the lack of time I have for them. <sigh> Oh well, I did see the D&D cartoon now and then in the '80s and back then I think I liked it even if I preferred stuff like He-Man, Thundercats, GI Joe, and Transformers a lot more. Rainbow Brite was something I liked too, if only for the hilarious bumbling villains. Maybe I will get and take the chance to see D&D again soon. <fingers crossed>

DPH: $ More than one RP at a time? Never happened that I can remember, except for now. Wonder how much longer we'll have more than one. <shrugs> :) $ I also agree with you about '80s and '90s animation, except for shows like Reboot and other CGIs it's hard for me to tell the two apart. At least in terms of artistic quality. Characters and plotlines are another story, like Taleweaver explained.

State of Cartoons These Days: I agree with Lexy that they are on the decline in this country, though I wouldn't be as extreme as her about the viewpoint. I too hated GI Joe Extreme, and these days hate Power Rangers, Pokemon and all its clones, Recess and all its clones, and all the other bad cartoons on TV these days. I especially hate that good cartoons like Transformers and Gargoyles are being canceled in favor of them. <groans> Why this is I do not have the time or the inclination right now to speculate, but I do think that the trend needs to be stopped. To save the intelligence and artistic appreciation ability of Americans if not just the good, interesting, and well-written cartoons we all enjoy. Getting greed out of the media business might be a good first step to this, so would breaking the power of Nielsens, getting the American people to accept and understand the reality of the world and demand it be depicted in their media instead of seeing TV as an innocent wonderland it should not be and isn't. Not to mention getting our children and adults to enjoy good intelligent well-written shows instead of stupid cliched ones with no real story that just do the same or similar plots again and again and never really advance their characters or stories any. Or if they do it, they don't do it with enough quality for us critics to notice. :( These are big steps, I know, and will take quite a bit of work (and not just all of the many good words from Taleweaver, either). Hope that we can somehow take them in the future, it would most certainly be worth the effort. At least IMO. :(

Todd: I too prefer Pinky and the Brain to Animaniacs for all the reasons you mentioned. I will add that I also liked how often Pinky and the Brain used real-world current issues and historical events to make their show even funnier (like all the Clinton jokes, Ted Turner starting CNN, the Bible stories, Snowball as Bill Gates, etc.). <sighs> I really miss that show. A curse on all the executives who agreed to having it canceled. :(

David G: You were in the Vampire LARP at A-Kon, huh? Figures. That was the one place Kit and I didn't look for CR people. <sigh> We did do a few pranks with them (I told some of the V-LARPers that someone dressed like Buffy had been sighted at the con talking to someone dressed like Vampire Hunter D and someone dressed like Blade about attacking them, prompting confused frowns and laughs from me once I got out of earshot of them. Kit was also going to dress up as Faith and ambush a few, but I talked her out of it. What with hotel and con security around, I thought it a bad idea), but we never took any names or looked for friends. Maybe next time we should. I think we will. :) Congrats on pulling off some success in the game.

Firestorm: If you put the CR pic voting form up, Kit and I will be among those who use it. Hope to see it, and some pics, soon. :)

Airwalker: Enjoy your summer in Israel, hope you make it back soon and safely. We will be missing your comments while you're away.

SOROW: Welcome back! Sorry your time at camp was so horrible. At least you can look on the bright side, it's over now and you won't have to go again. You aren't the only one who's had a bad time at camp either, just mention Camp Longhorn to me and you'll hear all kinds of horror stories. :) And now you're back here, among your friends, with whom you can hopefully enjoy yourself more. We are very glad to see you, and if you need emotional help or a sympathetic ear for your experiences, we will be happy to provide. Whatever happens, it's just good to have you back among us. Hope you'll stay. :)

This is about all I have to say for now. Will post more at a future date, either next week or later this one depending on how much time I have with school, work, fanfic, and all the other stuff I have to deal with. Kit will be making her own post soon. Once again, I'm sorry we didn't see all of you at A-Kon (at least it sounds like you all had fun there, as did we :). Hope that next time we will be able to find one another and meet. Until that time, this room will have to do as a place of interaction for us. :) Let us all take advantage of it as often as we can. Later!

**BACK TO THE RP**

"Boss, it's Yevi," Yevi is saying into his cell phone as the screen comes back on. "I have bad news. We lost Erin, and her father." "You lost them?" Abdullah roars angrily. "You blithering, incompetent�" His diatribe continues for several minutes, Yevi taking it all and expressing agreement with it. "I do think I might know where they're going, though," he says when he gets the chance. "The apartment building owned by Fasil Bey. Shall I go there and dispose of them? I still have two men." "No!" Abdullah snaps. "I will not let someone stupid try to go after them again! You will return to the Underground City and await further orders. I will send someone else to handle the problem of Erin Bey!" "Yes, boss," Yevi says, and hangs up as Abdullah slams down the phone. In his office, Abdullah looks at his black and gold-skinned winged partner, who has been eyeing him with an intense frown. "You need not worry," he says. "I have this situation well in hand." "It didn't sound like it," the Egyptian gargoyle sighs. "Really, Abdullah, if you are failing this badly at eliminating an old grudge, I wonder if I really should be letting your men build the new body my master needs." "My engineers' skills are flawless," Abdullah assures him. "You can trust me on that. In fact, I will prove it to you now by sending one of them to handle this old grudge problem." He presses his intercom. "Find Mr. Flanagan and send him to me now!" "Yes sir!" a secretary replies. "He'll be right in." "Who is�" Harthoth begins. "Don't worry," Abdullah replies with a smile. "He is exactly the man we require. Soon you will know that as well as I." Harthoth frowns but nods, deciding to for now take the Arabian at his word. Later, he thinks, if this man fails me again, I can always get rid of him.

Meanwhile, at Area 51, the Ravens and Wilek have just watched as Bardic walked out. "Well then," Wilek says, "that man was most interesting. I hope we will get the chance to find out more about him in the future and help him if he needs it." "Yeah," Kit agrees, frowning slightly at Bardic's sudden exit and wondering about the reasons behind it. "Now what was that message you were so startled by?" She points to the sheet of paper before Wilek and he frowns. "Oh," he grimaces, "apparently a spaceship belonging to the fourth most powerful demon in Hell just landed near Las Vegas and its pilot broadcasted a message saying she's going to destroy the world in about a week. Kind of like that Cyber-Smurf's message from before." "Whoa!" Jammer cuts in. "Didn't that Cyber-Smurf nearly destroy the planet?" "He did," Lathrop nods, "and we were powerless to stop him. It is good that Sevarius Jr., Kari, and the Black Tiger were not." "Yeah, it was," agrees Wilek. "The Black Tiger and his friends, as well as Kari and that demon who's in SJ's body, are with the Administrator now, helping her to get an army to take this "Four" demon out. I was surprised by the threat she poses at first, but if the Administrator is uniting with the forces that defeated the Cyber-Smurf to beat her, now that I think about it, I'm confident they can." "Do we need to help them?" Kit frowns, looking pensive. "No!" Tom answers. "We need to get to the Avatar and save it! Now!" "He's right," Doug stands up and says. "Let's go there!" "Guys, wait," Tricia says. "Tom, I know how you feel about Janice, but she has to be dead now. Unless somebody did a deus ex machina ($note- nobody please do one! We have something planned. Thanks! $), that big shark demon had to have torn her apart." "I know that," Tom sighs, looking aside for a moment. "She was fighting to save the Avatar when she died, guys. Let's make sure she didn't die in vain!" "Amen!" says Boris. Elena nods too. "Besides, she is not the only person on the Avatar who may require our assistance." "Right on!" agrees Stephanie, and Doug nods. "People in trouble, a space station stolen by a demon, we're heroes," he says. "That's what's going on here, right? I think I know what we should do to resolve it." "I do, too," Jammer grins. "We head up to the station and blast this Mephisto jerk away." "Indeed!" Orion nods. "Perhaps we can even get him to give us back SJ's soul, and help another friend for ours." "I'm game for that," Keith says. "Even if the odds are a little against us getting a demon lord to agree to surrender a soul he holds." "I am game as well," Lathrop nods, "though this may mean prolonging the time until I next see my wife." "So what say you, Kit?" Doug asks. "You in?" "Um�" she frowns as they all turn to her, "I guess I am. Sure, of course I'm in! Just one thing, how are we getting up there?" "Good point," Tricia agrees. The team sigh and look at Wilek, remembering his words from earlier. "You don't have a ship for us to use to reach the Avatar, do you?" Tom speaks for them, a sigh on his face. Wilek is about to answer when there is a loud rush of several warp drive engines from outside. "What the�?" Doug and a few other Ravens frown. Agent Rho runs into the room just then looking frantic. "Sir, I couldn't stop him!" he says to Wilek. "He's taken nearly all the ships, and everyone who would come with him, and blasted off for the Avatar! Our sensors picked up that some kind of thruster explosion had stranded the station in an asteroid belt, and he said there was no better time to go take back the station! So he blasted off!" "Who, Rho?" Wilek asks. "Who blasted off?" "Commander Khesaat, sir," Rho sighs. "I tried to stop him." "It's okay," Wilek assures him. "It's good you didn't." He smiles and looks at the Ravens. "We're going after him. Miriam, go get a ship ready." Miriam nods and runs off as Wilek turns back to Rho, telling him to tell the Administrator to take care of the Ten, to have the Onslaught fixed and ready when he and the Ravens return, and do several other things. Kit meanwhile turns to her friends and smiles as she says, "Looks like we're going." "Indeed," Doug nods. "I just hope we can succeed." "Yeah," agrees Tricia. "Come on, let's go grab our weapons before takeoff." The other Ravens nod, Boris tells Wilek where they're going and he nods, then they run out of the room to head for the Onslaught. In the shadows of the meeting room, a dark and invisible figure unnoticed by everyone frowns, but continues to watch the Ravens with a thoughtful and patient expression as the screen goes blank.

**RP OVER FOR NOW**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 04:47:19 PM
IP: pool-209-138-160-30.dlls.grid.net

Airwalker and Anime> Have a good trip. It sounds like fun.

As far as Robotix there's a site called scifi.ign That reviews the cartoon series from ages past. It covered Robotix about a month ago. Including clips and the intro. I think Sevarius Jr. hooked me up to that site.

As far as Sailor Moon> I'm in the camp that didn't find it that thrilling after the first two or three cycles. Once I saw the pattern of how the show went I lost interest. I do have a question for the Sailor Moon fans, how integral does the relationship play in the story. My limited viewing of the show revealed that the only relationships that really developed where Serena with Darren. Other relationships like with Rei to that rock star or Ami to her potential boyfriend got hit on maybe once a cycle. Editing a story from the original drives me nuts, I always feel like I'm missing something vital, so I'll ask is Neptune and Uranus relationship vital?

As far as warping the minds of America's youth> That's what cartoons are for. Seriously, in my decades (decades now, ye god!) of cartoon watching, I've seen a lot of questionable material and it hasn't corrupted me or my brothers. I remember Robotech had Lancer as a cross-dresser. Didn't make me want to dig through my mom's closet looking for something to wear. And who can forget Looney Tunes were Bugs and Daffy frequently donned dresses and long eyelashes to seduce (okay maybe a little strong lets leave it at trick) whoever was after them be it Elmer Fudd or Yosemite Sam. I've seen Tom and Jerry use real violence, not just the 'cartoon violence' of an anvil on the head. Door slamming on body parts, dogs taking a bat to Tom's behind.

Bottom line: Anything really complicated kids will ignore. I remember watching Robotech and not catching all the character drama. I didn't care, I just waited for the action and was one happy dragon. Of all the things to worry about for little munchkins, whether a cartoon is portraying a different relationship isn't one of them.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 04:13:17 PM
IP: ced60-112.ced.csupomona.edu

*Emambu enters. The CR members quickly hush and all eyes turn on him as one member runs up shouting, "Oh my god, oh my god.... where did you get that brownie?"
I answer, "There's a whole stack of them over there." The CR members cheer as they follow the direction my finger is pointing, to the bountiful pile of chocolate.*

Sorry, guess I'm just in good mood. :)

SJ: Sorry to hear about the ticket. I just got back from traffic court myself not ten minutes ago (my first traffic offense in the year that I've been driving). Apparently the judge said that the fault was the State's and not mine, so I got let off with a warning. I was driving with an expired registration, and I didn't know it. Foruntately, if you pay for your registration, (which I do) Penndot is supposed to send me a validated card every year (which they didn't). Ah well, I'm just glad I didn't have to shell out $125. Good luck with your hearing though. Maybe you can show the judge that the signs weren't well marked (if you entered it and didn't know). It worked for my brother once. He parked in a "No Parking" zone but got out of it becuase he showed the cop that the signs weren't properly marked.

80's Cartoons: I remember watching several off and on but the ones I really stuck with were Transformers, Robotec, and Thunder Cats. Those were quality shows, especially when you're little. I know this is more 70's shows but does anyone here remember "Star Blazers?" I used to watch old episodes of that too.

Random Garg. Generator: A java applet code would be a good idea, IMHO, because it wouldn't be that hard to do. Most of it would basically consist of a ton of if/then statements with links to the various pictures as well as a lot of variables (I'm guessing 18, one for each possible die combination). I have a program (not mine) that works the same way. You have to buy tickets to go to a concert, but along the way you have to purchase things (food, clothes, etc.), and before that you have to go to a bank and buy money. The garg generator program would run the same way. IF you roll a "5" on the die, THEN alert "linked" picture, and so on.

I wrote a "Dress Erik" program for my programming class last year along simliar lines. You had a picture of myself in boxers and a pull down list of various clothes. The object is to come up with different combinations to "dress" me. Unfortunately, I don't have any extra time to do this (what with work, creative writing, getting ready for college, and helping my brother move into his new house) but I still think it's a good idea. I hope someone does it, because I got a really cool-looking gargoyle out of it. If had any artistic ability, I'd draw it, and e-mail to Christine.

Todd: Having five cats myself, I'd have to say that the hardest part is pilling them (although cat cages come in a close second). I'd rather tackle Demona with both arms tied behind my back (I still probably wouldn't receive as many scratches) then have to force a pill down any of my cats' mouths. :)

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 03:57:40 PM
IP: spider-wo021.proxy.aol.com

i was just wondering when a new episode of the gargoyle/pendragon series was coming out. and a new episode of the dark ages series also. they are keeping up with tthe timedancer series, but not the other two. hope it's soon.
Cat - [princesscat1218@aol.com]
ny
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 03:54:49 PM
IP: spider-tp021.proxy.aol.com

Just a little posty before the 'rents get home.

Fire Storm> Thank you for all the ears. I hope you didn't get in too much trouble if you borrowed other people's.

Warpmind> Thanks for the laugh. I agree though.

Winterwolf> I'll be on later tonight. Hope to see you.

Bye everyone.
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 03:05:57 PM
IP: phx-226.treknet.net

Airwalker> Sounds like you're going to have an interesting summer. now, on to your questions:

>TENCHI MUYO - What is this series about and is it any good?
Oh lord, where to begin? It's a comedy/sf/romance kinda thing about this boy named Tenchi who accidentally frees a terrible demonic force that turns out to be a space pirate woman (Ryoko, sp?), and she falls in love with him (after she gets through trying to kill him). A little later, another beautiful woman (Aieka, sp?) shows up to kill the Ryoko because she blew up planet Jurai (which is Aieka's home world), but the statute of limitations runs out just before she gets there. Aieka also falls in love with Tenchi.

From there, the series gets a little weird, and the plot gets kind of convoluted... :)

I really love it. The Ultimate Collection is on my list of DVDs to buy.

>ANIME QUESTION - I have been watching more and more anime recently - can anyone suggest a good comedy series (ala SLAYERS - which I loved) or a good comedy/romance series?

I could suggest a lot of stuff, but it would take me forever, and my lunch break technically ended a few minutes ago. I suggest you check out a this website:

www.animeondvd.com

They have current lists, pictures, reviews, etc... of lots of current anime. Even if you don't have a DVD player, it's a good resource, since anything on DVD is probably on VHS, too.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 02:42:53 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Airwalker> Oh, and have a nice trip! :)
Caliope
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 02:28:24 PM
IP: 136.145.47.253

*peeps into the room*

Airwalker> "can anyone suggest a
good comedy series (ala SLAYERS - which I loved) or a good comedy/romance series?"
Oh well, I recomend Ranma 1/2 for romantic comedy, its one of my favorites :). Besides that I'd recomend Komodo no Omacha (Kodocha or Childs Toy) wich is on the lighter side too, but its a little harder to come by, you can only get it fan subed for now. I really cant say much about Tenchi cuz I've only seen 1 movie and read 1 grafic novel, but it seems ok so far :)

ummm....Bye again! :P
Caliope
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 02:25:19 PM
IP: 136.145.47.253

SJ: <my first ever traffic ticket (I'm a very careful driver)>
See a judge. Since you are a good driver you may be able to just pay the ticket without having the points go on your record.

Jailbait friend!

Archwolf: <had to train 6 new people, and my loader and I have only been there a month ourselves>
I had to train only 1 person. BUT It was when I had only been here 4 days.

Todd: 
Nope. Sorry. Hairless ape.

SJ: Don't worry. I saw the humor in your post. I figured you were going so TOTALLY stereotypical, I knew it had to be a joke.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 02:05:55 PM
IP: dynamiccomp.com

Hi guys. *sigh* Well, I had a crappy, horrible time at camp and I'm so glad I don't have to do that anymore and I'm really sore and tired and just want to sit here in front of the computer and forget it ever happened. Anyway, I'm back.

GB> One of my brothers graduated from the Air Force. The other is in the army band.
SOROW
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 01:29:24 PM
IP: dll2a020-0525.splitrock.net

I posted this announcement in the other comment room but I figured it wouldn't hurt if I put it up in here too.

**ANNOUNCEMENT**

I just wanted to mention that starting next Wednsday June 14, I will be out of touch for the rest of the summer. I am going to Israel for the rest of June, all of July and most to all of August. I just wanted to let everyone know so that nobody gets the idea that I'm dropping out of the Fandom or anything. I'm just going to be out of touch for the summertime but I'll be back as soon as I get home and get to my computer.

(If I find a computer with Internet access then I'll try to pop in one day and post but I doubt that this is going to happen as I don't think my relatives have an internet connection.)

**ANNOUNCEMENT**

SAILOR MOON - I'm not too suprised that CN went this way. Personally while I don't support censorship, I don't have that much of a problem with it since I never really had that much of an interest in Sailor Moon to begin with. If I really wanted to see how it is unedited, all I do is head over to Chinatown and pick up an unedited, subtitled version.

TENCHI MUYO - What is this series about and is it any good?

ANIME QUESTION - I have been watching more and more anime recently - can anyone suggest a good comedy series (ala SLAYERS - which I loved) or a good comedy/romance series?

80'S TOONS - There was this one series that I remember enjoying that I think was called ROBOTIX (but I'm not entirely sure about that). The plot went something like this:

Two alien groups on one planet were at war with each other, something happened to the planet that forced the entire population of both factions to go into cryogentic slumber, and while they are asleep the supercomputer monitering them creates huge robotic bodies and downloads the minds of some of the two factions into them.

I've been trying to find some more information on this series on the internet but so far have been unsuccessful. Does anyone else remember it?
Airwalker - [airwalker999@yahoo.com]
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 01:27:08 PM
IP: 29.new-york-33-34rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Greetings all...

COYOTE - Ah, "Galaxy High"! Now there was a series that should have continued! But you forgot to mention the real pivot point about the two kids from Earth: Doyle (the token male) was a real Jock/BMOC, and (to the slight stereotype) wasn't too keen on studies or classes... he felt he could just be good at sports and be 'cool' to get by. Amy (the female) was an atypical 'shy girl': bookish, not too popular, and seemingly ready to be overshadowed by Doyle's ego. But, when they get to Galaxy High, things flip-flop! Doyle - due to lack of book learning - isn't as 'cool' as he'd hoped he'd be... in fact, he keeps running a foul of a alien named Beef(?) who has a serious mad-on for all things earth-borne. Amy, on the other hand, is immediately seen as a new darling of the local "Girls Clique", and because she's got brains as well as beauty (it was hidden but those alien females know how to do a great make over!), she's suddenly Ms. Popular.

God! I loved that show! Even the theme song was catchy!

*** Warning! Song In Progress! ***

Dolye was a high-school star!
Everybody thought he'd go real far,
But he didn't learn a thing from the classes he took.
Y'know, he just wasn't interested in his books!
Amy was the smartest girl at school.
Not very popular, not very cool.
Two kids merely chosen from Earth
To go to school at Galaxy High!

Traveling millions of miles through space
To go to school at a far off place!
Amy's now their sweetheart
But Doyle's got a lot to learn, Here at GALAXY HIGH!

*** Song's over! ***

SAILOR MOON - I've seen enough of the series to know about the current brouhahah over the decision to make Sailor's Uranus and Neptune sisters in the dubbed version eps about to be released on CN... Well, that's America for you. Personally I have no qualms about the original series when they had their different relationships (Zoecite/Malachite, Fish-eye, etc.)... I think the deal here is that the American producers will think that if young children are exposed to any - and I mean ANY - display of alternate lifestyle relationships, that it could affect them and make them start to enter into such when they get older. Of course, the trade off is now there's the risk of their relationship being viewed as Incestous... but, I guess they figure Parents can handle explaining that more than a lesbian relationship. Eh... I just go find the original series on imports.

80's Cartoons - I was a BIG follower of shows like G.I.Joe, Transformers, Thundercats, Robotech, Captain N, Galaxy High, Dungeons and Dragons, Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Jem, Robotix, and several others too numberous to mention... yep! I'm a confirmed Animation nut! :)

SJ - Well, to be honest there has been some comments you've made that I don't agree with a lot of the time, and not just on George Lucas... it's a slightly long list of things but mentioning each item wouldn't be too proper of me just now. Suffice to say though, I will admit that you have your right to express what you believe, as do I, and that on some things we just have to agree to disagree... but, other that that, you're human like the rest of us. Plus, you sort of grow on a person after a while. :)

Well, that's all from me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 12:13:16 PM
IP: m117.ieway.com

*skips on in*

Hi all!!! How's it going!

Gside> Thanx! :)

Winterwolf> Hey! *HUGZ back* Missed ya too! :) I havent been up to much actualy, I just dont get as much comp time now that I have absolutly nothing to do. Thats the irony of life for ya, huh? ;) Well how bout you, what have you been up too? What did I miss?

Wilek> *cheacks out the cow page....builds her own cow....1 legged, 2 headed, 3 tailed cow.....Bursts out laughing* Where do you find these things, huh! :P

SailorMoon> Tho far from my fave anime I have watched SailorMoon, most of all the series, and all I have to say is, if they maneged to make Socite (spellings way off, I know :P) in the first series a girl when she's suposed to be a guy just so she/he can be Malikite's lover then all is posible, no?

Well, I gotta get going! Toodles to yas! *HUGZ all and skips back out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Puerto Rico! , Sunny Blue Weather You cant apreciate , in and air conidioned room *shivers* :P
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 11:01:17 AM
IP: 136.145.47.253

Ah, I suffer in the name of comedy.

Mara--I'm sorry if you took offense, but realize that I WAS making a smartass joke. Read my comment again carefully, and you'll see that I tried to include as MANY lesbian stereotypes as possible. It was all a joke. The joke being, if you want to have the Sailor Scouts deal with lesbianism, lets have them engage in every single lesbian stereotype out there. Call it a parody. I have nothing against lesbians, or bisexual people, or homesexuals in general. Just thought I'd poke a little fun at some of the more ridiculous stereotypes out there. My remarks were not made out of cruelty, but out of jest. I'm no Dr. Laura.

Chalk it up to maybe a warped sense of humor, but it was humor and nothing more.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 10:42:31 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Sevarius Jr:: BTW, though, I'm for full-blown lesbianism on the show. But let's be totally realistic, and show our children the REAL lesbian lifestyle. None of this lipstick stuff. Have one of the Sailor Scouts go full-on butch
(complete with page boy haircut, men's slacks, and lots of flannel shirts),

That would be Haruka. She's cute in men's slacks. Go on.

SJR: and have a few storylines where she volunteers for a GLAD fundraiser or demonstrates for the NOW. Or maybe go to a Melissa Etheridge concert. Or an Indigo Girls show. Or see Ellen do some standup. And hey, let's have all of the Scouts show up for a Lilith Fair date! You know, be honest, and show the real lesbian lifestyle.

You know, that really pisses me off. I'm bi and since I was twelve have been brought up in a lesbian household (which my brother doesn't like, but tough you-know-what)And what you've just posted is so STEREOTYPICAL and bias that it makes me just..uugh!

must control fists of rage

*stomps off to go find some Akio pics to make her happy*

Mara
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 09:33:53 AM
IP: spider-wl014.proxy.aol.com

*blink* I was.. number 1? My GOD. and I didn't even know...

Sailor Moon debate-

It stinks. It was going to happen, ofcourse, but it stinks.
It's bad enough they skewed Sailor Moon R so that Fiore and Mamoru's relationship wasn't brought to light. I mean, God.. Fiore was in LOVE with Mamoru.

The relationship between Haruka and Mirichu was one of the greatest things that show ever had, and in the Japanese it was a good show to begin with. They never made it into a "cause", they never tried to hide the fact that H and M were a couple. They just WERE. Anime has always been wonderful dealing with homosexuality.

Sisters? My left earlobe. (rant further edited for content)
Unless we want the kids who have access to the subtitled to get the idea from the dubs that their relationship is incestual as well. (The kids I work with during the summer have seen all of the Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon movies and the Sailor Mercury's first love special thanks to one of the counselors)

What next? They cut Fisheye out of the DeadMoon series because he was a raging flame and also had a crush on Mamoru? Or turn him into a girl like they did with Zoisite?
Zoisite was a GUY and with Kunzite!!

*shakes fist at the sky*

As for the comment about not making it a "lipstick lesian" thing, I take offense to that. The butch dike is a stereotype, just as much as the lipstick lesbian. And if you had had the opportunity to see S in the subtitled, you would know that Haruka did dress and act like a guy. It wasnt her sexuality, just her personality. Usagi and the girls actually had crushes on Haruka until they finally found out he... that is, she was a Sailor Soldier. And a woman.

Hmph. Hurm and Hn.
Mara
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 09:27:08 AM
IP: spider-wl014.proxy.aol.com

SJ< Travolta going balistic> wouldn't suprise me. If my movie was as big a stinker and encountering hostile press, I'd be pissed off too :)

Well, BE has been unilatteraly declared the big stinker of 2000. And on the upside, the attempt by the Cult to improve Elron's public reputation has totally backfired. I doubt anyone in Hollywood would even consider touching a Hubbard work.
Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 08:57:46 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-35.ultravision.net

CHRISTINE - Yep, there's few things in this world more difficult than getting your cat to go to the vet. My own experiences with my cat prompted me to suspect that the ultimate challenge for Goliath and Elisa could be putting Cagney in his cat-carrying case for his vet's appointment. After that, handling Demona, Thailog, the Quarrymen, or even Oberon would be a piece of cake by comparison! :)

FIRE STORM - I hope that those are ears of corn that you're throwing and not a different variety of ear.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 07:40:33 AM
IP: 216.87.46.15.dialup-stl.primary.net

*A hole is blasted in the CR wall, and a TIE Defender flies in slowly. It comes to a halt, a hatch opens, and Warpmind climbs out.* Hiya, I heard we got new TIE regulations here... and sorry about the wall. *Warpmind grabs DC and stretches him to cover the hole.* There, that oughtta do it for now. ]:)

Rodlox: A nomadic clan could still be counted under the term "clan", if they stick together. But don't expect me to have the only answer to that; it would be more interesting to debate it, eh? As for the "you" thing, I understood. It was just too good to pass up. ;)

Daniel Johnson: I've tried to locate the source; I think it was in some "weird random trivia" type book; I'll let you know when I find it. And as far as it being a language, well, I believe the elephant trainers can communicate with the elephants and each other with it, so I guess it qualifies as a language...

Crzy: Nice pic... I'm not sure which joke to use, to say you look blue, or stoned... ];) (Maybe you rock?)

Janine: Pardon my bluntness, but it sounds like your life stinks... Hope things improve for you soon. Oh, and a personal opinion: split personalities ain't all that bad, unless one of them is a psychotic sociopath with crazy-violent tendencies. ;)

**RP**
Warpmind's SatCom beeped, and he answered, puffing on the last inches of his cigar.
"de InzanE here, what is it? Caern Belfast you say? Only... okay, let me guess - he's one of our Garou members, right? Look, get him on the line, will you?"
There was a brief pause.
"Yeah, I requested the attack. No, the tracer was an accident, sir. Well, no, not accident like that - I fastened it on the collar of a contact here; he went by Umbral travel to Thailog's headquarters, and the tracer must have been somehow diverted. Yeah, _that_ Thailog. Again, my apologies. Yes, I will attend the next Grand Eschelon meeting for corrective actions, provided I'm alive at that time - I'm sure you heard this about the Ten? Right, I'll see you at the meeting, then. These Ten can't be allowed to annihilate our world. It is, after all, ours. Until later."
Warpmind hung up, sweating a bit.
**RP END**

Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 04:46:51 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

*A loud rumble can be heard from outside the room. After a few moments, the rumble becomes very understandable music: Devil's Dance. The sound of clashing steel is mix with the music. After a short time, the music and blade clashing stop. The CR door opens, and a wounded Archwolf staggers in.* I love dueling to Metalica...it just adds another dimension to things.

Life has been....interesting. Yeah, that's the right word. Work has hit a snag (had to train 6 new people, and my loader and I have only been there a month ourselves), got told by a certain member of my pack that I was not good enough for her (and if you knew her past, you would laugh yer a$$es off), got into yet another row with my parents (kinda tough since my schedule prevents me from talking to them more than once or twice a week), me knee is acting up and may need surgery (lets hope not), and I had a dream that I was playing the piano at Elisa and Goliath's mating ceremony (I was playing 'Great Balls of Fire') which is REALLY odd, since I can't play pianno, and hate Jerry Lee Lewis. Life just can't get much stranger (knocks on wooden door frame). Ok nuff griping.

Shadowrider>Reading your fic as i find time. Sofar, I like it, though I too thought dialogue was a bit rough. If it weren't for dialogue, I would have my own fic archived by now.

Mec>Welcome back! Question. Have I ever written anything to you that was anti-Mormon? I don't think so, but I was hoping you might remember. If not, I can use it as an arguement point against a certain female i am aquainted with who thinks that being Mormon makes her better than the rest of us and that my problems from her are problems i have with her faith(yeah, I know Mormon and Catholic [even those leaning towards being agnostic] are not supposed to get along, but this is pushing it).

The anime stuff>I refuse to watch 'Americanized' anime any more. S&P takes all the fun out of it.

Christine>OUCH!! Get well soon, k?

SJ> <<Did Greg himself state that the Fey came after humans and Gargoyles, or are they just implied as coming later because they're the "3rd race"?>> I always kinda liked to think of them as accidents of creation. Oh, and you and yours are still kept in my prayers.

S>Welcome back. Thought we had put you off for a while there. Hope the new place suits you. As for being a little over zealous in your comments, hey, who doesn't like to make people see that they are always right?

TD Ep> I liked this one. Being the son of a Seargant, I loved seing that officer get his comeuppance. Thought, I think 2 years is WAY too short for a promotion from 2nd lieuie to Major. (It is 1 year in grade just to get from fisrt to second lieuie (or was he a first to begin with?) and like a year and a half or two yars from lt to Capt.) oh well. 8 out of 10
**RP**
After considering Mecord for a minute, Thailog nodded. "As I said, it was merely a proposal. Shadow, take him back to his friends. Unharmed." The dark werewolf shruged and led the elf out of the room and into another branch of reality.

Belfast
WyrmHammer, the Elder Theurge in the local Cearn, sat at a desk in his office looking at an object on his desk. His thoughts were interupted by a knocking at his door. "YOu may enter, Winter." Winterblade entered the Elder's chamber and bowed. "ShadowWolf has returned, WyrmHammer-rhya." The old werewolf nodded. "Yes, I konw. Our totem spirit gave these items to me, as well as a message from Him. We have another problem. One of these items is a tracer, and I have reason to belive the Caern is about to be raided. I want you to see to the Cearn's temporary evacuation and..." He was cut off when he felt the approach of another werewolf. Without turning, he spoke to the new commer "Greeting, ShadowWolf. I am surprised that you returned." Shadow wolf sneered. "Didn't come back for any noble reason or anything. Just came to drop an elf with his friends. I guess they aren't here yet." He noticed the female werewolf across the room, and walked over to her. "Well well. If it isn't my baby sitter. Mayber you can take the elf here back to his friends before they get themselves killed. As for me, the boss has more work." Before she could react, Shadowwolf grabbed her and gave her a solid kiss. "Archwolf and I both wanted to give you that. I look forward to the hunt." With that, he dissappeared. WyrmHammer handed the golden chain and tracer to Mecord. "I belive these are yours. Winter, get him to his friends. I can take care of our uninvited guests.
When the Illuminati strike teams hit the caern, all they found was an old man at a desk. When he looked up, they could see the Illuminati pin on his suit lappel. "What is the meaning of this?"
**End rp..sorry for delyaing things and holding characters in limbo for a week**

Shade and Sweet water...ah...who am I kidding? This is one of those times when the best I can hope for and wish for others is that you don't have too much dumped on you at one time.

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 03:36:54 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-05.mcmurray.nb.net

***BEGIN RP***
After the impromptu Tom Jones show, Kari and the others assembled all of the demons in the parking lot. "Okay, listen up," she was telling them. She drew in a breath. "We're going to um.....need a favor from all of you."
"WHAT?" one of the demons snorted. "Look, honey, the only reason we ain't ripping your heart out right now and eating it is cause we're having too much fun."
"Yeah, well the fun is about to end," Sammael spoke up. "Why are you here?"
"What?"
"Why are you here?" Sammael repeated. "What are you doing on Earth?"
"Mephisto wants us to conquer earth," a demon said.
"No," Sammael said, shaking his head. "That's not quite true."
****PAUSE RP***

Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh........Today was a struggle. Not only was it insanely busy and none too pleasant, but to top it all off, I got this today! **Pulls out a traffic ticket** Yes, mark today on the calender--my first ever traffic ticket (I'm a very careful driver). Got it for taking an HOV ramp, which I DIDN'T know had a restriction...but ignorance isn't a defense....so now I'll be stuck paying this goddamned thing. No clue as to how much it'll cost, but I bet it's a LOT. Goddamned state patrol. They may be the "good guys", but Jesus they take such joy in writing these things. So, that was the icing on my cake today.

Some GOOD news for us Washington D.C. residents.....**Begins playing "Hail to the Redskins"** May I introduce the latest Washington Redskin....Deion Sanders!!! Yes, Deion has finally wised up and dumped the Dallas Criminals....oops, I mean the Cowboys....for the burgandy and gold! Here's hoping for another playoff team this year! :)

MTV Awards: I may have to check this out when it airs. The Matrix DID score big thsi year. It won for best movie, beating out the aforementioned American Beauty. Hmm....which would I rather see--ultra-cool sci-fi martial arts action extravaganza, or preachy melodrama about some olf pervert who has a mid-life crisis and fantasizes about his daughter's jailbait friend? I think I know which gets my vote. Matrix star Keanu Reeves won for best male performance, and his fight with Laurence Fishburne won for best fight. Mike Myers won for best villain (Dr. Evil), and best duo (with "Mini Me" Verne Troyer).

Skippy: Hey, did you hear about this? I think you'll like it. Travolta was in Barcelona, Spain, recently, promoting "Battlefield Earth". But he had a tough time at a press conference cause of French journalist Frederic Benudis. In France, Scientology is a sect and not a recognized religion, and there's some controversy over the film because the French have speculated that it contains subliminal, pro-Scientology imagery. Benudis asked Travolta about the church's funding, and Johnny-boy starts throwing a tantrum talking about he was being set up and "trapped". Here's the really amazing thing--he has his rent-a-thugs confiscate the reporter's tapes for "verification", and when he got them back--yep, definitely erased. Here's to John Travolta, champion of the right to free speech!

Sailor Moon: Like Robby...well, sorta....I'm not bothered by this. Probably cause I've never thought Sailor Moon was anything even close to watchable...but if they want to make them "sisters" instead of lovers or "special friends"--hey, that's their right. I don't like the DBZ editing, but I do realize that they are targeting this programming to kids. And maybe this is a bit uptight of me, but I say that if Cartoon Network doesn't want to expose younger children to the "complicated" relationships found in Sailor Moon, that's fine with me.
BTW, though, I'm for full-blown lesbianism on the show. But let's be totally realistic, and show our children the REAL lesbian lifestyle. None of this lipstick stuff. Have one of the Sailor Scouts go full-on butch (complete with page boy haircut, men's slacks, and lots of flannel shirts), and have a few storylines where she volunteers for a GLAD fundraiser or demonstrates for the NOW. Or maybe go to a Melissa Etheridge concert. Or an Indigo Girls show. Or see Ellen do some standup. And hey, let's have all of the Scouts show up for a Lilith Fair date! You know, be honest, and show the real lesbian lifestyle.

Taleweaver: I'd be interested in some Robotech episodes/movies. But how big a file(s) are we talking about? It'd be nice if you could email one to me, but my mail service only grants me a paltry few megabytes of disk space.
***RESUME RP***
"Do you know why Mephisto sent us here?" Sammael was saying to the demons assembled before him. "He didn't sent us here to conquer the earth. He sent us here to be slaughtered. The Ten are coming!"
A murmur went up through the demon ranks.
"Yeah, that's right. The Ten are on their way here. And when they arrive, no one's safe, not on earth OR in Hell. That's why Mephisto hijacked the Avatar--he wanted to save his own ass. And he sent us demons here to Earth as a distraction. He counted on the Ten spending all of their time destroying his demon army, thus giving him time to escape. He sold us out, brothers and sisters. Nothing too surprising, coming from him, but we need your help. The Ten are on their way here....and we need to stop them."
"I know of the Ten," a large, horned demon said. "And I know that we don't have a prayer against them."
"That's not true!" Kari said. "You're all strong demon warriors. Mephisto was expecting you to be caught off gaurd by the Ten--but if you help us, if you join us, we'll be prepared for them, and we'll take them down!"
"She's right," Sammael said. "If we join forces, we *can* stop them. Lord knows we can't stop them from coming now. What do you want to do? Sit and wait to be slaughtered, like lambs, or do what you were bred to do--fight!? If you die, at least you die like brave demons!"
The demons grew quiet. They seemed to debate things amongst themselves.
"I will join you," the horned demon said. He pounded a huge fist into an equally huge palm. "I'll fight till the beasts rip the life out of me."
"I'll fight too," a female demon said. Another voice joined her. Soon, all of the demons were voicing their affirmatives.
Sammael smiled. "Good. I know you aren't...exactly fond of the other heroes here on earth....but we're going to have to join them as well. We don't have long, but we do have some time to train and to prepare for the fights that are to come. And we'll be ready for them. When the Ten come, we will be victorious!"
***END RP***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 12:22:47 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Winterwolf: <How many are there going to be to choose from? And how many will make the cut? Thersites! ;)>
300 to choose from, 15 will make the cut ;)
In the end there may well be over 200 images to choose from.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 12:02:22 AM
IP: t2-36.visitus.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR**

Hi. I'm working on so many things my head is spinning right now. So much to do so little time.

Caliope> Hi Caliope! Welcome back. **Winterwolf runs over and gives Caliope a big hug.** I missed you! I so happy you are back! Where have you been? What have you been up to? ^_^

Mecord> Another wanderer returns to the CR. Welcome back Mecord! :)

Janine> I've had some similar experiences with my own folks. I find that these things tend to take time. If you're interested I'm always willing to listen to you if you want to talk.

Brooklyn> I'm trying to get that special look and feel. I'm still working on it. Progress is excruciatingly slow. :(

Delphi> Thanks for the funny stuff from kids. <digital camera> For additional info you could check out http://www.shortcourses.com/choosing/contents.htm first for plenty of general information. Then check out http://www.shortcourses.com/ for more detailed info. Hope this helps.

Fire Storm> I'd vote for pictures. How many are there going to be to choose from? And how many will make the cut? Thersites! ;)

No RP for me tonight. I'll get back to it tomorrow. Good night!

**Winterwolf leaves the CR to work on some other stuff.**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, June 6, 2000 12:00:06 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.77.172.newyork2.level3.net

Delphi: If I might add to FS's response to your digital camera query ... he mentioned the Kodak DC215 as a good one. I picked one up from a local KMart for about $250. Even though I have yet to pick up a reader for the card, I still think it's gonna work out to a good buy. :)
Coyote the Bando
Monday, June 5, 2000 11:51:42 PM
IP: 216.28.101.62

Delphi: 
Funny, it seems like I just had a discussion about digital cameras at the weding I went to with LM (NOT our weding). Oh wait! I did! :)
I will assume you mean a digital still camera. If you are talking about digital movie camera, tell me and I'll post some info.
Personally, I say Kodak. You can't go wrong with a Kodak. 66% of the digital cameras I have bought have been Kodaks. (The other 33% was a cheap HP. My first camera. Needless to say it is sitting in a box somewhere)
Stay away from Sony. Sure, the floppys are convenient as hell, but for the price you pay for an entry level Sony you can get a very nice Kodak (Sony's have about 1/2 to 1/3 the picture quality of a Kodak for the same amount of money) Plus, since they are floppy based, it does take a short while to save the picture to the disk. (Don't get me wrong. Aside from their computer products, Sony makes some REALLY good stuff!)
Look at what you need. Are you just going to do this for fun or for a job? For fun, I say spend no more than $500. That may sound like alot, but you do get what you pay for. There are some decent Kodaks for roughly $400.
Do you need or want zoom? If so, look one that has a good optical zoom. Digital zoom removes quality for the sake of closer pictures.
What kind of media does it use? Floppy (Sony)? Smart Media (paper thin cards)? Compact Flash (Sony, HP, others)? My personal preferance here is towards Compact Flash. It is the cheapest per megabyte for extra film space (Technically floppies are the best buy, but only Sony uses them.) Don't go for a camera that does not have removeable film media. Trust me. It's annoying.
As for places to look, try the digital photo magazines (I like digitalFOTO magazine. It's by the guys that make Maximum PC and Maximum Linux, so it must be good! :)
If you are looking at two cameras and you want to know which one is best, look at the following statistics:
Resolution (You shouldn't have to settle for less than 1024x768)
Included film size (More is ALWAYS better)
Price (Of course!)
Options it comes with. (Rechargeable batteries, AC adapters and card readers are DEFINATE pluses. These things eat batteries like they are candy)
Here are my personal model recomendations: (I say your best bet for a first time camera is one in the $400 - $500 range)
Kodak DC215 ($299)
Kodak DC240 ($399?)
DC280 ($500)
DC290 ($800)
I hope that helped.
Oh yeah... and as always, nice joke!

Rodlox: <don�t take this the wrong way, but you�re confusing Individual Lifespans with Species Lifespans. the aging of gargs is on the individual level>
Yes, but given that the individual ages slower and the breeding rate is slower, the Gargoyle species could be 2 million years old and just barely have as many generations as humans who have been around for 1 million years. PLUS, since gargoyles do not have as many offspring as early humans did, there are inherently fewer gargoyles, and given that, less of a chance for mutations.
Although, I must say, the extremely long period that the growing hatchling in the egg is exposed to everything, that may actually increase the mutation rate... Hmm...

Wilek: <Would we have to choose just one pic? ;)>
Nope. All the pics. Which ones stay, which ones will be added on, and which ones go to that great recycle bin in the sky.
<McAfee's auto-updater is broken.>
Thats why I like norton. You can just download the updates.
< OK...I'll just back away very slowly right about now...>
Ok, ok... so it was a bee. We poured water on it an pumped about 120v through it. It didn't do anything.

Winterwolf: <Thanks. I'll be searching later for sure.>
I am sure you will like them. WARNING, though. Those two programs are a total download size of about 250 mb.
<Did you happen to notice the name Todd managed to slip into the RP?>
Sorry, no. I really don't check out the rp.

Janine: <Friends, Romans, Countrymen! Lend Me Your Ears!>
**Fire Storm throws a couple of ears at Janine. And not all of them are his!**

Kellie Fay: < am looking for 3-4 fanfic authors for a pannel for prospective writers. If you have been writing gargoyle fanfiction for over one year, and you are currently writing Please email me and send me a list of your stories, where they can be found, and a sample of your writing. I will notify you if you are accepted for the pannel.>
Is this an online panel or one for the gathering?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, June 5, 2000 11:42:09 PM
IP: t2-36.visitus.net

Lexy> <<forte..er..(4-tay? *G*)>>: When You play enough music, you learn that it is forte.

Fire Storm> <<What is King Arthur's reaction to Monty Python and the Holy Grail?>>: Hasn't that been mentioned at least once in Pendragon? for some reason, my mind wants to say yes.
<<Maybe another contest is for someone to make a java version of that thing>>: If you want a final graphic, that would be a little tough. But a text summary would be incredibly easy, especially since you can send out the random number generator out to only one subprogram.
<<HEY! Being from Michigan, I resemble that song!>>: Blame Gunjack. He asked for it. I just let him have it.
<<How many people in here would be willing to vote on CR pics? (using a form)>>: Yo ho.

Rodlox> <<i�m sure all the trunked, tailed, and tentacled deities would be surprised by that>>: I should have said that I was relying on the most prolific religion in North America and Europe (I believe) as source material.

CSH> May your progeny enjoy further success in their future endeavors.

Shadowrider> <<Thank you for the explanation (how many times did I say this phrase to you already?)>>: Unimportant. I seem to take a perverse pleasure out of being a source of information.

Welcome back Cali`ope.

Na zdorov'ya
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 5, 2000 11:19:54 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

A-Kon pics? I went through a whole roll of a disposable camera, I may have gotten that Vash character. I'm so anime illiterate it's pathetic. But once the Photo-CD gets beack from the developer's I'll post the images on my website...till then, checkout my name link
Skippy The Klingon - [Here's anA-Kon picofme being utterly FABULOUS!!!]
Monday, June 5, 2000 11:01:32 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-04.ultravision.net

Ok, think back.....farther back.....farther.....Dont be lazy, common!!!....Yeah, thats right, you remember me!

I'm Back! Yey, did ya miss me guys?! *CR goes dead quiet*
.......
OK! So, I'll try to get back into the swing of things in the next few posts!

...well...I cirtainly missed YOU guys!!! :P

Gonna go now! See yas! *HUGZ all and poofles*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 10:56:11 PM
IP: 196-28-48-101.prtc.net

**enters and dances with Mara-ko for a bit** You weren't just top ten this week, love, you were #1! **huggles before turning to reply**

Fire Storm: Indeed, a Major is higher than an LT, but consider that between the time Thommes abandoned Robbins and the encounter in the Cubi Point O Club, two years had passed. Figure that Thommes, as stated, was from West Point ... generally the advancements go that every year, graduates advance one rank. If Thommes was a First Lieutenant in '69, he would be a Major by '71 (being a Captain in '70).
And the only reason I remember this is because I recall reading that David Robinson was a Lt. Commander by the time his five year Navy commitment was over (the only thing that was keeping him from playing with the Spurs immediately after he was drafted by them).
Incidentally ... might I point out that in his time in the Navy, Robinson was a submariner? Can ya just picture a 7' 2" guy trying to make his way through a sub? Awfully cramped, if ya ask me. :)

Janine: Oh, Teletubbies ... you mean the British Brown Acid Trip? :)
You're right, of course, and what's made it go downhill was the cancellation of Gargs by ABC in favor of "One Saturday Morning," which is supposed to be biased to aim toward pre-teen girls. All I can tell ya is, I tried watching it once. And I gave up after watching "Pepper Ann" for five minutes because I thought I was gonna puke.

Robby: Thanks for the A-kon report. Aaron ... Robby told me ye took pictures ... *please* tell me ya got a pic of the guy in the Vash costume, 'cause I gotta see this (Robby said he had the look complete, right down to the funky hairdo and the *gun.*). :)

'80s toons: Actually ... one of my favorites (that everyone seems to forget about, for some odd reason) was "Galaxy High," which CBS showed for one season (I believe it was '87 ... XenaTrek, you watched that show too, am I right or am I off?). Neat premise the show had (two human high school students become transfers to an intergalactic high school full of every conceivable alien you can think of), but it's too bad it didn't catch on 'cause it had a lot of promise. (Last time I recall seeing *anything* of it, Sci-Fi Channel had been showing it on Saturday mornings ... back when they still showed 'toons on a regular basis)

Robby again, re: Hawaiian DBZ broadcasts: Well, you *also* consider that Hawaiian TV (at least in the early '80s) *also* showed subbed Power Rangers the way they were *meant* to be, not stupided down like Saban does. Or at least they're PR-style shows ...

Christine: Good wishes for good health to you *and* your cat. :)
Incidentally, myself I've only owned one cat that was declawed up front ... he quickly learned how to fight with his rear claws, and pretty much hated us more for that *and* rendering him a eunuch. (Last I'd heard he was running around wild on Whidbey Island ... see, we gave him to someone with a large farm before we went to Hawaii, he stayed there two days and then ran off)

And that be it for me this evening ...

**skips out of the room**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, June 5, 2000 10:41:24 PM
IP: 216.28.101.62

Ugh ...
Well, Sabledrake _still_ isn't up because Tim had to take Becca's cat to the vet because Darth was voiding blood with her urine; they thought it might be a bladder stone but the x-rays came back neg. Just a UTI, so it's antibiotics every 12 hours (and with this cat, that's a four person and fifteen bandaid job, and that's even with her front end declawed!!!). My ankle is purple and twingy now and then but not too bad, thanks all for the sympathies! I made some headway with "Lylth" last night and hope to finish it tonight.

Fire Storm > I think an automatic Gargoyle Generator would be great, and would have tried to make one had I the slightest idea where to begin ; ) I'll have to leave that to others with greater computer savvy than I.

Christine
Monday, June 5, 2000 10:15:14 PM
IP: 07-158.009.popsite.net

I'm back! :)

We all need a vacation every now and then. Now I just have to catch up with the posts. More later.

Mecord
Monday, June 5, 2000 10:11:10 PM
IP: usr42.mtwest.net

Mr Todd: <<Um, I do not generally go about saying "Humph, mortals". I'm much less aloof and cold and distant than you're implying, please.>> my apologies, sir....i was continuing the joke about whether you exist or not...if i've hurt your feelings, i'm sorry.

Rodlox
Monday, June 5, 2000 08:59:26 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***** CON INQUIRY ******

I am looking for 3-4 fanfic authors for a pannel for prospective writers. If you have been writing gargoyle fanfiction for over one
year, and you are currently writing Please email me and send me a list of your stories, where they can be found, and a sample
of your writing. I will notify you if you are accepted for the pannel.

Please remember there will be a fanfic reading during the Gathering as well. So keep Writing! :)

Kellie Fay

Kellie Fay - [KFay198120@aol.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 08:43:38 PM
IP: aca61608.ipt.aol.com

RODLOX - Um, I do not generally go about saying "Humph, mortals". I'm much less aloof and cold and distant than you're implying, please.

I will confess that I prefer "Pinky and the Brain" to "Animaniacs". Actually, the thing that really impresses me about "Pinky and the Brain" (which, until they ruined it by letting Elmyra in, was probably the best humorous animated series of the 90's) is the way that they were able to get so much endless variety out of a series which had to essentially use the same basic plot-concept for each episode: Pinky and the Brain try to take over the world and fail. A lot of it came from how they were able to come up with so many different outlandish schemes - everything from our enterprising lab mice raising the Titanic to doing their own infomercial (complete with Brain doing his own hommage to "The Emperor's New Clothes" at the climax) to Brain founding his own country to the great "Chia-Earth" scheme. And they topped it all off with the success in the mice's distinct characterizations. I really liked that one.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, June 5, 2000 08:08:56 PM
IP: 216.87.46.99.dialup-stl.primary.net

DPH walks in singing the following song:
**PARODY of a song**
This is a post of laughter
a post of tears
a post of hopes
a post of fears
There's so much that I share
That it's time we're aware
This is a long post afterall

This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long, long post

There is just one room
with rules divine
and posting means
sharing with everyone
Though the posters are many
and some readers aren't happy
This is a long post afterall

This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long post afterall
This is a long, long post
**END PARODY**

Why do I keep getting the feeling to type my password in every time I tab over from typing my email address?

Notice: this post was constructed way before it was posted. As I type this, I am looking at last week's comment room for anything to write about. One of three kittens was ran over on the highway (I leave next to the highway). Yesterday, I could hear that kitten purring happily.

**ANIMATION TOPIC**
Thanks for the information on animation. I personally think the idea of animation=kids is starting to head away. (Simpsons, King of the Hill, Futurama come to mind). I think some things I think better left animated that done in real life. Interesting you should mention plot.

**INTERRUPTION OF ANIMATION TOPIC FOR TF**
I think of what is going in the Transformer fandom (where I posted as certain spots as dphofrules and Computron's successor). The last Transformer series (Beast Machines) had a decent plot. The problem was the producers of the series wanted it 'dumbed down'. As a result, the writers were stuck. I also told that same problem happenned to Beast Wars with certain episodes being replaced.
**END Transformer Interruption - returning back to animation topic**

So if we want an animated show with plot, we have essential have two obstacles: the producers of the series dumbing in down and the writers of series not going in the direction we want to go. So what should a writer do when told to dumb down the series or else?

The only solution to our problem is to create our own company and create animated tv shows with lots of plot or live with what we have.
**END ANIMATION DEBATE**

Janine - I know how you feel. I think there should be another minority - 'parent inhibited'.

1+1<2=1 - I should have used == instead of =. I was thinking about the following: (1+1)<(2=1), which of course results in 0. [1+(1<2)]=1 results in 1. 1+[(1<2)=1] results in 1.

**DEMONA DEBATE**
Hmm. There is nothing new for me to say except I agree with those who say Goliath acted approtiately given what he knew.
**END DEMONA DEBATE**

To the other Daniel, we have a lot in common, just by glancing at posts.

Alright, know to look at this week's comment room.

Random gargoyle generator - it would be cool if we could save pictures made by it.

**Power levels Comments**
At a certain point, reaching the next highest number should be harder and harder. Of course, if power levels start getting too high, create a new scale. For example, have a beginner's scale, a novice scale, an intermediate scale, and an expert scale. When someone reaches the maximum on a scale, they go to the bottom of the next higher scale. Eventually, have a spot where no one can go any higher than that point.
**END POWER LEVEL COMMENTS**

I think I might actually get around to writing a fan fiction involving the Timedancer and Illumaniti.

**BFTS RP**
"Well, what is it?" asked Fred Hitman.

"The replacements came in early." said Jennifer Ford.

"Good. How was that accomplished?" asked Fred Hitman.

"No comment." said Henry Rogers.

"Good thinking. You're looking out for my interests. When can testing begin?" asked Fred Hitman.

"As soon as move everything to the testing grounds and I round some people to help with the testing." said Elaine Wiseman.

"I want Garrison to video the equipment in action if it works." said Fred Hitman.

A few hours later in the secret testing area

"Ok, I want to test out some other hearing protection devices I researched on the internet." said Alex Freeman.

"Ok, but first we test all the new equipment," said Elaine Wiseman. "Todd, you test out device #1; Kate, device #2; Janet, device #3. Paula, I want you to test out the replacement sonic cannons. I'll test our replacement flame thrower. Greg, set up the video equipment."

Paula aimed a replacement sonic cannon and carefully just broke a mirror. She aimed the other sonic cannon and broke the other mirror on the car. "Guess I have 14 years of bad luck."

Elaine aimed the flame thrower and melted some tires on a car. "Those mutants won't know what hit them. Everybody with a hearing protection device, line up in front of that car."

They all did. Paula aimed the sonic cannon at each of them and fired up. "How do each of you feel?" she asked.

"Better than last time. I have some ringing in my ear, but it's not that bad." said Todd.

"I have slight headache but no ringing in my ear," said Kate.

Janet said "I have neither ringing in my ear or headaches. The only darn problem is I can't hear a thing when the device is on."

"I guess it paid off asking Alex to do some research this time instead of relying on my own research." said Elaine. "As I understood it, Paula and Greg are in charge of making the instructional video."

"That's right." said Paula and Greg in unison.

"Now, I want everyone to follow Paula's direction while I film," said Greg.

"Everybody but Elaine, Alex, and Jennifer can leave. Jennifer, start putting everything away but one sonic cannon, one flame thrower, one suit, and hearing protection device #3. First, Elaine get a flame thrower and go over there," said Paula as she pointed to a spot.

"Ok, I'm ready to start," said Greg as he turned on the video camera.

"Notice that the flame thrower has multiple settings, depending on how much heat you want to produce." said Paula. She pauses for a moment to allow Elaine to show the different setting. "Do not ever point a flame thrower at another member of the Speed Stars."

Greg pauses filming.

"Ok, Elaine grab a sonic cannon. I want you to demonstrate how to aim the cannon carefully and how to change frequencies. Alex, I want you to put on a suit put on device #3 under your hood." said Paula.

"Ok, no problem." said Elaine. Elaine grabbed a sonic cannon.

A few minutes later, Alex was ready. "I'm ready." he said.

"Ok, I am ready to start filming again." said Greg.

"Start. Notice that the sonic cannons can fire at different frequency." Paula pauses while Elaine shows how to adjust the frequency setting on the sonic cannons. "You need to pay carefull attention to where the cannon is aimed because unless the person is where a special device they will be harmed. Now, Elaine will demonstrate how to aim carefully."

"First, you look through your peephole to see where you're aiming. Make sure not to aim at anything which will reflect the sound back at you."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 08:04:43 PM
IP: max1-15.cwy.cei.net

Friends, Romans, Countrymen! Lend Me Your Ears!
Hello everyone. Thank you for letting me rant and rave but I am planning to move within the next year or two. I want responsibility like paying bills and buying groceries and stuff like that. That is not what bothers me. What bothers me is that they expect me to be the house-maid, the nanny, and a good little school girl. I have to give up one of my majors so I can take care of baby brother at night. They call me lazy because I'm a night owl and I sleep during the day. I can't get a serious job because I ~have~ to go to school so I won't hang out with the ~wrong~ crowd and get knocked up. The only job I'm allowed is babysitting or something cheep like working for McDonalds as a burger flipper. I need field experience and I need a shot to be who I really am and I can no longer do that here. I'm starting to develop split personalities.
Well I'll be online all day again. Thanks for the ears.
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 07:54:43 PM
IP: phx-214.treknet.net

Sailors Uranus and Neptune being sisters- Um... Yeah... They announced that would be the case like a year ago. I've long since accepted it. Normally I'm against censorship, but in this case... Those not in the know won't miss anything in thinking the two are related and parents won't try to get the show banned for it, so thats okay. Those in the know who have a problem with it will think the dubbed version stinks no matter how well its done because of any fault they may find in it,so if they're nitpicky enough to rave and rant about any alterations, worrying about upsetting them doesn't matter honestly. And if you watch it and keep watching it, you have no right to complain since you're still watching it and not boycotting to demand better. Besides, its really the only way to get past American S&P. Its better to be getting new, somewhat edited Sailor Moon eps than no Sailor Moon at all, right? I've had to take a similar stance on DBZ. Sure computer editing all the violence and "cool parts" is rather annoying, as are the bad voices and jokes, but they ARE showing the same basic story and most of the actual fighting, right? (And DBZ is actual improving its quality by the episode, hiring more voice actors and sticking closer to the original script). And you *do* watch the shows for the story, and not the violence, right? I'd hate to think that the S&P people are right and that viewers crave violence and sex enough to complain about the lack of it when new stories show up. Ditto for bad dubbing. If you don't like it enough to complain, go to the trouble of finding the originals in Japanese and obtaining them. Its easy enough to do with online fandub cites, so put together some cash and get in contact with someone who has the originals rather than complain about whats coming to american television for free.

Do I like editing? No. Do I like bad dubbing? No. Do I like the fact that Hawaii has every episode of DBZ in the original language and music with subtitles or the fact that the Spanish version is almost identical to the japanese in contrast to the American? No. Ronin Warriors and Gundam Wing prove that dubbing can be done well. But as is, American society is what it is for the time being. I like Sailor Moon and if its edited, so be it. At least I'm seeing it. Complain about two of the scouts being "sisters" if you want, its not worth my time to complain when I can enjoy it instead.

And also, I should point out, Cartoon Network is for the most part, VERY good about S&P where Toonami is concerned. The new Dragonball Z episodes are almost totally uncut where footage is concerned, except for spraying blood and uber violent moments. The dialouge is Funimation's fault, not Cartoon Network's. CN allowed all of ReBoot season 3 to air here, TOTALLY uncut. Including death, destruction, sexual inuendo, and AndrAIa's grown up costume. The late night showings of Gundam Wing are totally uncut, have the original japanese music, (including japanese VOCALS) and the characters actually CURSE, which I have to admit surprised me. Yes, they've had to change a line in a certain episode of Jonny Bravo (Jonny meets Scooby Doo... you know which line I'm talking about...) and they've had to change Daffy Duck getting shot, but thats not Toonami. I'm pretty confident that CN will air a more or less uncut version of Sailor Moon S, and may even allow Uranus to commit suicide, since several characters did exactly that in Gundam. Its all a matter of how close the translators are. CN won't edit it much more than the translators. Geez, from the commercials they're showing, it looks like they're even leaving in the Tenchi Muyo bath-house episode... (And on a different note, does Cartoon Network know how to PROPERLY advertise an animated series or what? Cool commercials and they start a full month in advance...)

For now, I'm not passing judgement. So two of the sailor scouts are sisters now, so what? Do you have ANY idea how HARD it would be to get an average American audience to accept their close friendship as it was in Japan? (And they aren't lesbians durn it, they're only very close friends!) Think about it. If someone says "There are lesbians on Sailor Moon", (innacurate as that is) do you think the show is going to get any of the sort of attention it WANTS? No, it'd get absolutely the wrong kind of attention and be kicked off the air in a matter of weeks by parenting groups who wouldn't even watch the show except for a few brief seconds and then not gathering a full idea. (South Park has a point in that respect...)

Imagine if someone turned on Gargoyles during Eye of the Beholder just at the scene where Fox turned back into a human and was left totally naked, it was their first time seeing the series, and they then turned the tele off and made their decisions based on that? The same thing would happen only to a much worse degree if Sailor Moon wasn't changed.

Understand, I am NOT supporting the censorship or whatnot, I just understand why its there and accept it for that reason, and don't see the need to complain about it.

ANyhoo, I've rambled on more about this than I wanted to (Particularly considering its only briefly come up so far...) so I'll be leaving now...
Robby
Monday, June 5, 2000 07:54:27 PM
IP: spider-wl081.proxy.aol.com

Hey guys!!!
Looks like I'll be able to post after all. Ya see we had trouble w/ our line, so I thought they'd have to work on it for awhile. Thank god it's up now!!!
Now on to business.
<Winterwolf>
Hey man! How's it going? Hope the page is going smoothly!No bumps or kinks.(Fingers crossed!!)
I'll e-mail you later in the day.
<Rodlox>
I'm haven't completely read your story bur I like it so far!You should write more!
That is about it for today I'll post later!
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 07:51:07 PM
IP: usr115.cqc.com

hi all
good news the gardenshop expasion is scheduled to start on july 5th, which means I have alot of plants to sell off! It will be wonderful to get that extra space, and complete with airconditioning and heat. (the current gardenshop is way too small and basicly nothing more than an enclosed porch.

Firestrom>>i am considering purchasing a digital camra - what kind of features should I look for, or where is a good source to get a little education on them before I go shopping. thanks

here are some tips from kids- hope you like them:

- If your sister hits you, don't hit her back. They always catch the second person.
- Never ask your 3-year old brother to hold a tomato.
- You can't trust dogs to watch your food.
- Reading what people write on desks can teach you a lot.
- Don't sneeze when someone is cutting your hair.
- Puppies still have bad breath, even after eating a tic-tac.
- Never hold a Dust-Buster and a cat at the same time.
- School lunches stick to the wall.
- You can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk.
- Don't wear polka-dot underwear under white shorts.
- The best place to be when you're sad is Grandpa's or Grandma's lap.

catch you all next time!
delphi - [cmiller@magiclink.com]
twin Falls, idaho
Monday, June 5, 2000 07:49:50 PM
IP: twin56t.magiclink.com

Interesting, I saw the commercial for Toonami....

He is coming.....

Tenchi Muyo, this summer.

Spacebabie--------I quote Cartmen on this one. "That is f***ing weak." That was to Cartoon Network. I respect ya...but.....sisters?!?!?!?! Ay!

Gasper
MN, US
Monday, June 5, 2000 06:39:08 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Spacebabie - So THAT's how it is in their family. O.o Really, I don't know how they are gonna pull that off. How many eps are they showing? I doubt they would show Uranus committing suicide. OY! Should be .. um... Interesting.

Fun little doodle... I wanted to make sure Zelgadis wasn't the ONLY Chimera. So this is what happens when I watch slayers and doodle at the same time. clicky clicky!
CrzyDemona - [<--- Me as a Chimera]
Monday, June 5, 2000 04:59:03 PM
IP: mp2e2.ez2.net

Holy Cheese!

Next Monday June 12: Cartoon Network will be airing new episodes of Sailormoon, The S sereis

and get this Neptune and Uranus will be Sisters

Sisters? Yeah right

Goodbye quality Anime, Hello Jerry Springer.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, June 5, 2000 04:43:03 PM
IP: user-37kaovt.dialup.mindspring.com

Oh, well, I'm here again, after a weekend without connections...for the series "some good new every now and then", next week "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" will start being broadcasted here in Italy! I'm very curious to see this series I've heard so much about...

Gside:> <six-graders> OK, understood. Thank you for the explanation (how many times did I say this phrase to you already?)

Niamhgold:> Hmmm...actually, I don't like so much the way my story resulted in HTML...but I couldn't do any better...oh, well, at least it is intelligible...and, after all, ratings aren't going so bad, what is of relief...<takes a glass of cider and a piece of brownie> thank you so much...I *love* cider, really (I confess you I almost don't drink alcoholics...just a beer with friends every now and then, but that's all...)

Winterwolf:> <<Sounds like DC was fighting with you for a while on that. >> You say it...it was a hard battle, but I won...
Thank you for the feedback. I am glad you liked my story, and I thank you for your criticisms...after all, how am I supposed to improve my style if I don't know my flaws. Yes, dialogues are my weak point now...sometimes I know what a character is supposed to say, but not how is he supposed to do it...and for descriptions...well, I willingly cut them sometimes, for fear to get the story too heavy.
Well, anyway your praise encourages me to keep on. I'll try to work on a couple of new stories in my Military Service, so to post them as I'll return (at least one of them will see the return of Nemo, and both of them will introduce some new characters...). Oh, and you need not to thank me for mentioning you in the foreword...I really wantedto thank you all for the fun I find in here...

Janine:> Maybe someone already suggested it...and probably I'm too late...but please reflect a little before making any drastic decision, and try to consider *all* the sides of the problem...

Cyborg:> I'm sorry, I missed your comment about your dad's conditions last time. I'm very sad to hear about his conditions, and I send to you and your family my best wishes for a quick healing.

SJ:> I'm glad to hear your father is getting better. I hope he will soon recover completely.

S:> Welcome back! I hope you feel good in new apartment! Hey, you need not to apologize for that Brook-Goliath thing...you just expressed your opinions, maybe in a bit vehement way, but as far as I'm concerned you said nothing offensive or too rude...actually, although I don't share your opinion, some of your points were very proper. And about being over-enthusiastic about your opinions...well, it happens to me too, althoug I try to control it (don't you believe me? Just try to involve me in a discussion about aeronautics...;)

Jannie:> Hey, those "phrases you won't hear" were hilarious...I believed what is said here about southern U.S. people was just legends...;)
Hey, congratulations for your new car! I wish you a lot of fun on it! :)

Bronx:> Your phrases were funny too...and I can't keep my curiosity, so I'm going to email you asking for the last two...

Seems to me there's nothing more. See you all!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, June 5, 2000 01:21:33 PM
IP: h255-22-108.mi2.albacom.net

*Cyborg enters tightly hugging a stuffed animal to her chest* Looky what Stephen won me a the carnie, a garg- bear! He is soooo cute!

Firestorm: I would be willing to vote for pictures.

Christine: At least she wasn't playing a dart game... *cringes at the thought*

Janine: I know how hard it is to live with your parents, I still like with mine. We are here to be ranted at if you need to.

*Cyborg leaves still hugging her new garg- bear*
Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, June 5, 2000 01:17:01 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

WE GOT RAIN!
at last
We have has problems with brush fires and when I saw the T-Storm warning signals last night I was actually glas to see it.
Bad News: My brother and his friends got jumped and he got hit in the head. He's ok now, just a nasty boo-boo under his eye.

Entertainement news: Is Anyone else going to watch the MTV movie awards this Thursday? I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Matrix will beat American Beauty.
80's Cartoons: I grew up in the 80's so these were the cartoons that I watched. One show that I made sure that I would never miss was She-ra, I'm not sure why I enjoy this show, well now I do it had Girl Power before there was Girl power and it also was ineractive with a where's Waldo style game where you have to find this lil critter who is hiding somewhere in the episodes((I remembered one episode where the little guy had to help the heros))

Click the link and you will get to an index of 80's cartoons.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:45:58 PM
IP: user-37kaovt.dialup.mindspring.com

A few short comments:

Fire Storm:
Dante's last name: Alighieri
You know, when I saw the Random Garg Generator my first thought was that it would make a good Java applet. ;) I've already started thinking about it.
As for the DNA question, I don't have time to post anything coherent right now, but Rodlox makes good points.
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Rodlox:
Good comments, but I don't have time right now.
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Warpmind:
RE: elephant trainers
OK, I'm intrigued. Can you give me a source to look this up? I haven't been able to find anything. Is it really a language, or just a few words?
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Janine:
Please cool off before making any decisions, OK?
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Jannie:
Congrats on the car!
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Spike:
Congrats on the game! :) Repetitve, aren't I?

Got to go.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:15:35 PM
IP: ppp-48.rb5.exit109.com

Spike> congrats! I clicked on your link and to my suprise I found that you are in Mesquite?? I grew up there!! =) It's been years ago though - and it's been about 8 yrs since I've been back in the Mesquite area. (I have relatives still in the Garland area.)

Janine> sorry you are having "parent problems". Before you make any rushed decisions of moving out though - give it some serious and mature thought. If you're just doing some "wishful thinking", then that's typical of most teens when they have disagreements with their rents :)

I bought a new car this weekend!! I hadn't planned on it, but it fell into my lap and was such a great deal, I would have been foolish to pass it up. (I had planned on waiting until the end of the year to purchase another car)
It's a Honda CR-V, BLUE!! and comes with every gizmo and spiffy thing you can put into a car =) It's loaded!! It's a '99 model, so I got it for almost half of the sticker price of a 2000 model that has the exact features.
I've been wanting a CR-V for a loooonngggg time and can't believe I finally have one! *swoons* And for so cheap!! :)

*puts Denis in the passenger seat* Buckle up, baby... we're going for a ride! ;D
Jannie - [jgmiller@academicplanet.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 11:10:49 AM
IP: 64-240-37-172.hou.port.mytelco.com

Well, I *wanted* to go to A-kon, and I tried to get there -- but something strange and wonderful happened. A little league in-line hockey team with a rookie coach managed to win 1st place in their division.

*beams* Yes, I'm an insanely proud Hockey mom. Go, Hurricanes!!
Spike
Monday, June 5, 2000 10:36:28 AM
IP: ppp09-62.ght.iadfw.net

really, really short for me.
**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, when you email the info I requested, could you also email telling me a time reference for events regarding Speed Stars and DPH's return home? I'm slightly confused about how much time has passed.
**END RP RELATED**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 09:53:04 AM
IP: max1-41.cwy.cei.net

Janine: hi....sorry to hear of your troubles, but it _can_ get worse {i know from experience}... do you pay rent already? hold a job that can pay for the rent? pay for groceries? don't answer these questions - just bear them in mind, okay?

thanks.

good luck.

Warpmind: <<random gargoyle generator. :) A small, nomadic clan of outcasts, mostly,>> the gargs i got are a scary bunch...{an adult male garg, an elder female garg, and a young adult gargbeast...i was afraid to see what came next}.

btw, if they're nomadic, would the term _Clan_ really apply? just wondering.

Warpmind: i was not refering to you specifically, it was a general 'you'.

**a try at RP - 10**
Out in the middle of nowhere - or at least used to hold that title - the Hellcop stopped walking, and stood next to two [humans?], watching some sort of spacecraft land.

Self-conciously, he looks at his arm, though he doesn't roll up his sleeve.

Idly, as he waits, he wonders how Anthony is doing in Vegas, and Chaey is faring outside Area 51 {that is where the Ravens are, right?}.
**END RP**

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail .com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 06:50:36 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*Janine enters her room and slams the door shut.
"I hate my parents! All they ever do is try to control my life. Well not any more! This 'little girl' is moving out very soon!"
She rushes through her dresser and her closet packing every possible thing.
"Why must they do this to me? Don't they see that they are driving me insane?"
She turns to Rugrat, her cat.
"You understand don't you kitty kitty?"
"Meow."
"Thats what I thought. Come on lets get outta this prison!"
She picks up her cat, takes one look around the room, shuts off the light and leaves.*
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 04:48:58 AM
IP: phx-206.treknet.net

*Warpmind enters, looking tired.*
Well, I'm done with yet another fanfic... probably the last before I'm off to Lanzarote. In short, a plague is loose, and people die. A LOT of people die, even dear ones...

Well, on to replies, I guess...

Christine: Got your e-mail; I'll be considering those points.

Daniel Johnson: As I hear it, the oldest spoken language right now *is* the foul curses and insults (well, maybe they're commands) that the elephant trainers in India fling at the elephants; these commands have remained unchanged (or so they say) for millennia. However, this language does not relate to any other, and is useless in any conversation...

AvMists: Well, those Michael Heitz' cartoons were, as usual, fun. Nice Star Wars crossover, and the "fandom response" joke was hilarious. :) Oh, and of course, Spike's "Stone Bikini" was priceless... I wonder how Brooklyn would attempt to explain his... predicament... to the others in the castle? ]:) Oh, and I've already started rolling up a clan by the random gargoyle generator. :) A small, nomadic clan of outcasts, mostly, so I'll have some excuse when the clanmembers don't look anything alike. ;)

Rodlox: Well, if you're lame from the neck down, it'd have to be one heck of a tongue, since the tail would be useless, too... and as for how prehensile my tongue is, well, that's my business. And that of any female I should have good fortune with. ;)

DPH: 1+1<2=1? I interpret that to mean you're using your Pentium again. ;)

By the way... Green Baron: You realise the SIZE of that fic we're supposed to MiST? Yipe!

Cyborg: Okay, as long as your head works, I guess I'll give... And I also agree with you: you don't hire any friends or family to kill you. Maybe a pro, like the Jackal, but not anyone you know...

Robby: Rest assured, unless the Big One hits, those artifacts that boost my character to 500K will remain locked away, most likely for the benefit of a later Realmsfarer.

Wilek: Oh, good... wouldn't want'em to stumble upon the pressure-sensitive floor plates, would we? Last I heard, a hydrochloric acid bath was bad for nanocircuitry... ];)

Well, it's that time again, then...

**RP**
Warpmind idly lights a cigar and starts puffing, not noticing whether or not Senthet has anything to say about it, while he punches in a complex code on his SatCom.
"Mecord! Mecord! Ssssh, you can't talk back, this is one-way only! I equipped you with a small tracking device, which also contains a minute speaker. Look, you gotta get your posterior out of there, and quick! If people start rushing in with blazing guns, get the heck outta there; they're sending in the SlamDunk squad, and not the Surgeons! Move, quickly! Make any excuse, just get outta there!"
Shutting the SatCom off again, Warpmind sighs.
"Hope he heard me, eh, Senthet?"
**RP END**

Well, see ya.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, June 5, 2000 03:36:55 AM
IP: maaloeytnb-gw.online.no

Rodlox- Big battle for 10 saga coming up, and we could use some help. That is, Dragon Warrior and I. Meet at the site of #4's landing. That way, we'll meet, and fight her to the best we can, and then see if we can NOT get our collective arses kicked.

We need ya for this!
Gasper - [Gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Monday, June 5, 2000 03:28:59 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

*Winterwolf enters the CR and slams the door shut. It looks like someone in the CR had angered the squirrel and pigeon population. :)*

Hi. So ends another weekend. It was too short as usual.

Shadowrider> I read you fanfic today. To Niamhgold: Sorry Niamhgold. I know I promised to read all of your fanfic first but this is Shadowrider's first one ever! Please forgive me Niamhgold. I just see it as bending my promise a little. ;) Okay back to Shadowrider: I felt I had to put that in there. A promise is a promise after all. I applaud your work. Overall I feel your fanfic was good. :) I'll break down my opinions into the various elements of your fanfic. First the story idea and character development was well done. The overall character dialog was good but did have a few rough edges that had me cringe a little bit. The descriptions were also good but I found some that didn't seem to get the entire mood or let me visualize the background completely. I rated you 4 out of 5 stars. Good work. I liked it. I do feel that there is room for some improvement. I'm also honored to receive a mention in you comments at the beginning. I look forward to seeing the next one. ^_^

Christine> Ouch! Hope that ankle heals up quickly!

Janine> I'll see if I can catch you tomorrow.

DPH> I'll send you that info mid to late Monday.

Cartoons and Animated Series> I agree with several points that have been made and just wanted to add one point. I think Fox is doing a decent job of keeping some animated series in the not for kids arena. There are a few animated series in prime time. They are primarily comedies but deal with some grown up issues IMO. Two of my all time favorites though make me sad. Gargoyles and Animaniacs (the humor in there was for all ages).

******WARNING BFTS RP******

**This takes place before Rodlox's latest BFPS**

The mysterious stranger or perhaps a better name, the mysterious wizard, watches the occupants of DPH's home completely undetectable to mortals. One thought paramount above all others "With their help all the technology fiends powers with belong to me."

"Let me and Jason take a look at it for a while. It sounds interesting. Just bring us back once DPH arrives." Rodlox says.

"Okay I don't see any harm in a quick visit." Winterwolf takes three gems and places them on the floor making a triangle. This creates a shimmering multicolored gateway. "Whenever you two are ready just step through the rainbow."

Jason and Rodlox enter the triangle and disappear into the lights.

Equus speaks into Winterwolf's mind, "When the time comes I want you to obtain the powers of our enemies for me. I will reveal how to do this when the time is right. Also remember your promise to me, no one is to know I exist. I will watch out for you as best I can." With that the voice is quiet.

Several minutes later there is a knock at the door and Winterwolf opens it and is greeted by DPH and Plastique Saber.

"Hi. How was the rest of the trip?" Winterwolf asked them both.

Plastique answers, "Stressful but mostly uneventful after your last call."

They both noticed the shimmering gateway in the middle of the living room.

"What is that?" DPH asks looking directly at the gateway.

"Rodlox and Jason went to work on their mental abilities. They should be able to hear you if you talk into the gateway."

******END WARNING BFTS RP******

Fire Storm> <3d Studio MAX (For modeling), Poser 4 (For playing :)> Thanks. I'll be searching later for sure. <Todd> Did you happen to notice the name Todd managed to slip into the RP? I'll just say that the one in the RP is not the mighty Todd Jensen. ;)

Wilek> <Baloney> Do you want to know? Well after you taunted me I have to tell you! ;p Baloney is the Animaniacs version of Barney the purple dinosaur. Noooo! Since he is an Animaniacs character he is much worse the purple one. ;)

Ack!! It's after 3AM. Where does the time go. I have to wake up in a few hours :(

*Winterwolf uses magic to teleport right into his bed!*

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, June 5, 2000 03:07:35 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.80.201.newyork2.level3.net

Wilek: << and viola! Instant garg!>> Ohhh, that would rock *so much*...Maybe it could be set up something like the thing at my name link>> tried it....and if you click on 3legs_2heads_1tail_0spots - you have a relative of the Pierson Puppetteer!!

Rodlox
Monday, June 5, 2000 02:08:44 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Cyborg> <<The reason for my father's seisure the other night (and his subsequent journey to the hospital) is a brain tumor. Now he and my mother both have cancer.>> Oh no! :( Sincerest wishes for his recovery...

Warpmind> <<Well, if we opt for droids, too, I have but one request about them: Magfield antigrav.>> The droids I had in mind come with those as standard equipment. :)

Winterwolf> <<You know what I forgot though... Baloney! ;)>> Do...I wanna know? :P <<Stone Bikini. All I can say right now is Wow! :)>> Stone...bikini...?! o_O Maybe I should check out the AvMists swimsuit thing; this sounds too weird not to have a look at... ^_^

DJ> <<Did anyone else notice that the server was unavailable late last night/early this morning?>> I did, and I also notice that it happens quite a lot... O_o

Kitainia> <<<smiles> We like that Senor Burns song too. Thanks for reminding us of it. :)>> Glad to have done so. :) Heh, that song is what really got me into the music of that show...it's just so...gleefully psychotic. ^_^

Lady Foxglove> <<*Jerry just walks over and slurps ya* ;)>> ^_^ Have a burrito, Jerry. :) (Be careful of the Guatemalan insanity peppers...)

Micheal Heitz> <<First, thanks for the praise.>> ^_^ <<I'm not directly taking commissions, but if someone got an idea for a Gargoyles cartoon, he/she can write me a mail. If it's possible to draw this joke as a cartoon (it's possible in more than 90% of all cases, so the chances are quite good), I will probably do so.>> Cool. I'll keep that in mind, if I ever have an idea for one. ^_^

SRS Jr> <<Greetings all...amazing what they sell at Wal-Mart these days, isn't it? (grins)>> Depends on where you live; my local one is utterly pathetic...I once went to one in Florida that wasn't bad, though...

Bronx> Tim Burton List> <LOL>

SJ> <<Did Greg himself state that the Fey came after humans and Gargoyles, or are they just implied as coming later because they're the "3rd race"?>> The former. <<I'm interested in the genetics of the fae themselves. Their physiology has to be utterly unique.>> I always thought they weren't quite corporeal in the sense of humans and gargs, although it's possible that they simply have great skill at manipulating energy...

Christine> <<On another note, I am limping because Becca missed a skee-bowling throw at the Everett Salty Sea Days carnival midway and the hard wooden ball rebounded off the bottom of the lane and cracked straight into my ankle bone.>> ACK! O_O' Hope you weren't injured too badly...

Fire Storm> <<They rarely are. They almost always are accurate.>> Not on my computers. My previous one had something called ThunderByte Anti Virus. One time, I was installing a game that installed a new version of DirectX. Because it had to overwrite several EXE files, TBAV thought those EXEs were infected. O_o McAfee is much better about this kind of thing, but I scan *every* executable, ZIP, DLL, DOC, and SCR that I ever download, I scanned every single file on my hard disk and they tested negative for infection, and I never got the little Phantom Was Here message that Norton's website told about, so either this virus never infected or it just isn't there...<<How up to date are your virus definitions?>> I still have the ones that came with my computer (a fairly recent Gateway); McAfee's auto-updater is broken. Still, this Phantom virus is in its database, so it would have detected it when it was first downloaded if it were there...The alert indicated that the virus was in memory. For that to happen, a program containing it would have had to be run. See my earlier comments about scanning everything...<<We performed experiments on animals and hooked them up to power supplys.>> O_o' OK...I'll just back away very slowly right about now...<<Sucks to be you. (I know, it's true :)>> Ohhh, don't I know it...<<Got another computer to access?>> Nope; they're both unhooked and gathering dust; I have no way of accessing them short of unhooking my current one and setting up one of the others. My desk's setup makes that an absolute nightmare. O_o <<What IS Dante's full name anyway?>> Dante Aligheri (sp?), I think, unless he had a middle name I'm not aware of...<<Maybe another contest is for someone to make a java version of that thing. Just click a button and viola! Instant garg!>> Ohhh, that would rock *so much*...Maybe it could be set up something like the thing at my name link (albeit much more complex). ^_^ Or maybe it could be a Shockwave app...<<How many people in here would be willing to vote on CR pics? (using a form)>> Would we have to choose just one pic? ;)

Robby> <<Elton John was responsible for most of the Lion King song numbers...>> Which may explain why there was really only one I liked very much (Be Prepared)... ;) <<later they got a HUMOUROUSLY dubbed version of the CGI Beast Wars, which apparently has Ratrap saying "chu" after every sentance... WOnder what they were trying to cash in on...>> Disney (Chu is Japanese for mouse)? ;P
Wilek Nereus
Monday, June 5, 2000 01:49:50 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

**RP**
Well, so much for trying to join into the The Ten Saga....{since the post with Kari had Hellhounds attacking tigers that i�d just turned back into kittens}.
have fun folks.
**END RP COMMENT**

<<What is King Arthur's reaction to Monty Python and the Holy Grail?>> i think Griff mentioned joking about that - but i don�t recall if it was in a fic or a TGS ep.

<<<so, were the Indus people really gargoyles?> Hmm... interesting theory.>> thanks...i do try. :)

<> umm....a heightened sense of Self/Id ? {the Fay are probably the only ones with a higher sense of Id}.

<<Gargoyle Genetics: Why do we have to assume that their DNA is more complex then ours? If anything, they have LESS
complex DNA than us. Think about it: Lets say that Humans and Gargoyles are both 5 million years old as a species. As species develop, the more "junk dna" is added to the DNA. Gargoyles, ageing at 1/2 the rate of humans, SHOULD have less junk DNA
than a human.>> don�t take this the wrong way, but you�re confusing Individual Lifespans with Species Lifespans. the aging of gargs is on the individual level.

on a related note, at least half of all human DNA serves no known purpose, and is believed to be leftovers from your evolution. {maybe it�s from other species.......Castaway has garg genes from 50 generations ago?}.

<< Don't forget pidgeons, they are squirels that got a promotion>> how dare you, sir! you insult the progenitors of the noble Dodo!

<<Andes Mountains, Peru (the Inca were the last civilization there, sorry Rodlox. The Moche were probably the first.) >> Chavin culture, as well as the Necropolis for whom no associated civilization has yet been found in the Andes coast.

<<Only the Chinese civilization still exists. A fact that the Chinese are very proud of.>> meaning no disrespect, but that�s like saying Americans, Brazillians, New Zealanders, and Kenyans are all part of Roman culture. what we call China has exterminated the humans from the south {many thousands of years ago}, clashed in wars between multiple native kingdoms, nearly been reduced to a large canton by invaders, and more!

<<1a. Writing system used for most languages: Warpmind got it -- Latin.1b. Second: Arabic.>> yeah, i guess it kinda helps to be attached to a religion. :)

<<so God has an even number of arms and legs, divided evenly on two sides of God's body. It is impossible to divide thirteen fingers evenly, so God must be assymetric,>> i�m sure all the trunked, tailed, and tentacled deities would be surprised by that. ::)

<<Heitz>> your suggestion was indeed a help! care to have a clan named after you?

<<Niamhgold>> same comment and question as to Heitz.
<<(should've been more specific)>> i was understandably confused when you complemented me, i went to go check the archive - and found the new additions unStarred. thanks again.

<<Rodlox, Todd Jensen: Thanks for the TD Atlantis info!>> i say _you�re welcome_.....Todd says _hmph, mortals_. ::)

CHRISTINE:
<<carnival midway and the hard wooden ball rebounded off the bottom of the lane and cracked straight into my ankle bone.>> and people wonder why i never watch that game. :) seriously, GET WELL AS SOON AS YOU CARE TO!!

<<yep, you were the first to ask how I chose that name! Conversely, at least a dozen people have asked for the entirity of the joke Beth tells during "Love Machine." God figure>> well...i don�t like to brag, but.... ::)

<<Ok, I have heard jokes about the southern way of life. But should there not be jokes about life in the rest of the United States?>> like how Maryland is going to rule the nation, if not the world?? {we really are....and we�ll let PEI have the Canadiens}.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail .com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 01:26:57 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Whew! Got back from A-kon just in time to wipe the room! Highlights from the con included Aaron at the auction, enough people in costume to make up the entire Slayers cast, a Sailor Mars, Xoicite and Vash the Stampede who looked their roles perfectly, picking up a lotta stuff cheap from the dealer's room, meeting several members of the current DBZ voice cast, and the cos play... Particularly Racer-X's Jimmy Stewart bit... (WHich I probably can't reproduce in here due to content reasons...) And seeing a couple of awesome anime series that I'm now hooked on! Neat! But since I missed a good 4 days of the CR, I won't ry to answer or reply in depth, just base replies...

Timedancer- We're already up to abandonment? Cripes, I better hurry up and finish the illos I'm working on... My stories are coming up soon...

Gasper- That alternative will work fine. You'll likely be the strongest starting fighter at the Ten battle as a result, but you know how things go in DBZ...

Warpmind- Powerlevels sound fine if you're reserving that 500,000 number for later. The upcoming battle its too much, but later opponents, sure. (But after the 10 saga I intend to end the measured power level thing anyway, for the same reasons as DBZ, the characters will start getting too powerful to measure reasonably.)

Wilek- My memory is a little fuzzy after half a week, but you said you didn't care for the work of Elton John, and well, Elton John was responsible for most of the Lion King song numbers...

DPH- FLint the Time Detective was made to cash in on two things... Pokemon, the most successful anime in Japan since NGE, and Dragonball, the most popular anime EVER. (FLint is a short guy with funky spiked black hair and disproportionate strength who is not too w2ise in the ways of the world. Sounds familiar don't it?)

Cardcaptor Sakura- The fact that they are changing the title to Cardcaptors worries me immensley. Usually when the title gets blatantly changed like that, it means they show little respect for the original property and are going to take SERIOUS liberties, likely changing music, names, dialouge and addign bad jokes everywhere... Look at Go Lion, Macross, Starship Yamato, Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon... (Voltron, Robotech, Starblazers, Sailor Moon) and then compare that to say... ROnin Warriors and Gundam WIng. Which are closer translations to the original? (I'm not going into DBZ tho, thats Saban and Funimation's fault... Pioneer did a great job on the movies...)

SJ- Actually, despite his infrequent visits, JEB in the big Transformer fan I know. (His IM is Jeb215Alpha). But yes, in Japan, Transformers was so vastly popular, the series kept going. And going. And going. Long after we had killed the franchise with Hot Rod leading things, the story kept going in Japan through several series. Eventually, they even got their own traditionally drawn version of Beast Wars with totally different characters, but the ORIGINAL Optimus Prime. (later they got a HUMOUROUSLY dubbed version of the CGI Beast Wars, which apparently has Ratrap saying "chu" after every sentance... WOnder what they were trying to cash in on...) Alas, these are not readily available in America for reasons I can't figure out (i assume toy marketing... But shouldn't video marketing also be high priority?) So probably the only way you'll find any episodes is through bootleg online or at some sort of con.
...
But looking further into the CR, it seems Bishansky can help you.

80's cartoons- Almost ironic I missed this conversation while being at an animation convention, eh? Ah well, I really have nothing to say that hasn't already been said now.

Hmm, wasn't this supposed to be a brief post whilst I caught up? Ah well...
Robby
Monday, June 5, 2000 01:06:32 AM
IP: spider-we041.proxy.aol.com

OHHH the eighth person.... how the mind boggles.:) lol
Janine
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:24:23 AM
IP: phx-206.treknet.net

Cartoons...Hummmmm...> I have a seven month old brother. He loves the "older" cartoons as people so call them. But what is with the other "baby" cartoons? They stink. I would never subject my little bro to that kind of thing. He is better off with Voltron or the original HE-MAN. All I have to say is that cartoons now a days stink worse than a sopping wet Bronx. And that has got to be pretty bad. Even the kid's shows have gone down hill. And don't even get me started on Teletubbies and Barney!

*Storms out of the room rambling about the down fall of American society*
Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:21:34 AM
IP: phx-206.treknet.net

I AM HERE!!!

okay, you all can go home now, "nothin' ta see, folks; nuthin' ta see..."

Rodlox
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:19:05 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Top 10?
Wilek
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:19:03 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

5th
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:09:24 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Fourth.
Gasper - [gaspersk@hotmail.com]
MN, US
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:08:15 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Top Ten! Time fer this little Space Cadet to go into Suspended Animation

Thats Sleep for you Earthlings
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:04:00 AM
IP: user-37kap39.dialup.mindspring.com

Top of the world!

Shadowrider: <may I ask you what "Dern Lot Boys" mean?>
Yes you may. :)
Seriously though, I think everyone said it better than I could have.

Niamhgold: 
Sorry to hear about that :(
Why don't you try USA.net? It works well for me.

<TGS SEMI-SPOILERS!>
Man, that ending was FUNNY!
A Major is above a LT, right?
<END SPOILERS!>

Brookyln: <There is only one I would like modeled that is of Brooklyn from the TimeDancer series>
WOAH! Hold up there! I am currently working on my own Brooklyn. I have barely started and I do not have the time to work on it right now.
It would take me a week STRAIGHT to make a decent Brooklyn.
PLUS, what 3d program do you have to use it? Poser? MAX? Lightwave?
Do you have a 4 way character sketch done? (Side, Front, Top, Mix?)

Winterwolf: <What do you use? I'm sure you can point me in the right direction for future acquisitions. ;)>
3d Studio MAX (For modeling), Poser 4 (For playing :)
As for where to find it... GFL. I searched for 4 years before I found a good version of MAX.
The site I went to was http://crx.newmail.ru/
Once you FIND a site, the next problem is getting ON to the site.
<I'll be checking your fics out too. I'll let you know where you stand. ^_^>
Just to clarify... *I* personaly don't like some of my stories because I know I can do alot better now.
<Much like the phantom Todd Jenson that I'm convinced the rest of the staff here has made up>
Ah... the old Todd debate. No posted e-mail address... never at a Gathering...
LM and I have a few theories about him but I know that there was once a theory that Todd = Greg
<This was all just an act of Todd.>
Oh, for the love of Todd, knock it off! :)

Todd Jensen: Sorry about that, but you are this CR's little conspiracy!

XenaTrek: <but still is out for revenge and kills them one by one on each successive February 14th>
Man... that SO sounds like my love life.
Oh... wait... DANG IT! My lawyers told me not to talk about that. :)

Robby: <And I just accidentally posted to the wrong CR>
don't you just hate that?

Wilek: <This is starting to look like a false alarm>
They rarely are. They almost always are accurate. How up to date are your virus definitions?
<Hire priests or white witches for deprogramming>
Be warned before ye try anything. This was a electronics class. We performed experiments on animals and hooked them up to power supplys. We know how to hack and modify.
Be warned. :)
<My computer came with a boot disk, but the disk doesn't load high memory drivers so there's not enough memory for the DOS scanner to run>
Sucks to be you. (I know, it's true :)
Got another computer to access? Just copy himem.sys to the floppy and add this line to the floppy's CONFIG.SYS:
Device=A:\himem.sys

DBZ powers: Just for the helluva it, here is my DBZ power rating:
6 x 10^(50/0)
My power is infinately null.

Ok... now I am curious... What would Neo's power level be?
(FYF, I don't watch DBZ. I just like these number wars!)

Question: What is King Arthur's reaction to Monty Python and the Holy Grail? :)

Skippy: <I've long suspected that Rudolf is in fact a relativistic reindeer capable of FTL speeds....>
Rudolph the Quantum reindeer
Had a very relativistic nose...

Daniel Johnson: <Why do we always refer to Dante by his first name? Or Galileo?>
Galileo Galilei? It just sounds redundant.
What IS Dante's full name anyway?

Green Baron: <Napoleonic Code>
Ah. That makes sense.
Hey, LM and I were just watching "Interview with the Vampire" and it got us thinking: Is alot of New Orleans as beautiful and glamorous as Anne Rice portrays it?

Rodlox: <so, were the Indus people really gargoyles?>
Hmm... interesting theory.
Could Humans have learned writing and spoken language from gargoyles?
I mean, why must humans have done everything first?

Christine: <Random Garg Generator>
Maybe another contest is for someone to make a java version of that thing. Just click a button and viola! Instant garg!

Gside: <Michigan Militia MP3>
HEY! Being from Michigan, I resemble that song! :)
(Well, except MY end will not be California Dreams! :)

Gargoyle Genetics: Why do we have to assume that their DNA is more complex then ours? If anything, they have LESS complex DNA than us. Think about it: Lets say that Humans and Gargoyles are both 5 million years old as a species. As species develop, the more "junk dna" is added to the DNA. Gargoyles, ageing at 1/2 the rate of humans, SHOULD have less junk DNA than a human.
Also remember this: The ameoba has more chormosomes than us (I think)

CR PICS: Ok... LM has gone through all of the directories again and found a few more pics.
How many people in here would be willing to vote on CR pics? (using a form)

Man... I have sure been smiley lately. Guess I am just in a good mood lately.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:02:28 AM
IP: t2-25.visitus.net

top ten wonder what number though
Mara Shinigami Cordova
Monday, June 5, 2000 12:02:24 AM
IP: spider-we044.proxy.aol.com