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*CARDCAPTOR COMMENT/SPOILERS *

The thing that struck me most about yesterday's premiere episode is that it's actually set after the very event that starts off the story. From what I was able to gather from watching it, the thing that kicks off the series is Sakura opening the magic book that has the various magic cards in it, inadvertently releasing them all, and being given the task of recovering them. So, logically, the premiere episode should have been about that. Instead, it opens with the above events having already happened by Scene One and Sakura even having gotten back a few of the cards.

To me, this feels almost like an alternate series of "Gargoyles" where the pilot episode would have had the gargoyles already awakened in New York and the events in "Awakening" all off-stage, referred to briefly. I've got to tell you, I have an uneasy feeling about this kind of "in media res" opening.

*COMMENT/SPOILERS END*
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, June 18, 2000 06:31:41 PM
IP: 216.87.46.208.dialup-stl.primary.net

Definitely a slow week...more than slow, almost still!
Well, not many replies to do, a quick one to say I'm still here...

New name...:> Pinky Hamsterhead? Hmmm...<say something clever! Quick!> Well...ehm...D'oh! I really have nothing to say about this name...I don't exactly like it, but I'n not disgusted as well...

Jannie:> I'm sad of hearing about your daughter. Sometimes, people we love the most are the ones who make us suffer the worst. I don't know exactly what happened and I feel no need to know, but I think you have not to blame yourself for what she did. You did your best for her, I'm sure you raised her in the best way and as she mistook the first time, you gave her a second chance. You couldn't do anything more, I think...and for sure you're not supposed to do anything more. In the end, as you said, everyone is responsible for his own choices, and no one else has to be blamed for them. I understand your pain and suffering, but, I repeat, you have not to blame yourself. It is the life she created for herself, and you are no more responsible of it.
My only regret is that the single support I can offer you are these unadequate words, but I wanted you to know that...well..that I am with you, with my thoughts at least.

DPH:> Glad to know your knees are better. I hope tomorrow they'll be OK.

Ok, nothing more tonight. See tomorrow.

Ciao a tutti!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, June 18, 2000 06:03:02 PM
IP: ppp-130-36.20-151.libero.it

Just a quick post:

Robby Brevard, if you have ICQ or AOL IM, please contact me ASAP... my contact id's are StephenRSJr (for IM) and 21890040 (for ICQ).

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, June 18, 2000 03:57:13 PM
IP: m147.ieway.com

Hmm. DPH finally shifts gears into weekend mode.

Correct guesses: Mecord, you got 'I' right. I have a different answer for D but your answer if 1/2 of what I thought. The rest are not even close to what I am thinking of.

**RP RELATED**
If anyone thinks the ending of the battle in the BFTS RP was lame, complain to me by email and I will tell you why the ending wasn't lame.
**END RP RELATED**

You can tell I'm in weekend mode when I use contractions outside the RP.

Let's see. Nothing else left to post about. I guess you'll here from me next on Monday, unless something drastic happens.
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 03:43:16 PM
IP: max1-37.cwy.cei.net

*** Niamhgold's in for a quickie **

I will have a bigger post later...but I just wanted to say to Christine that "Coalition" was _very_ good! The ending was perfectly orchestrated, and the entire piece was brimming with suspense from the very beginning! Good work :)
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 02:38:09 PM
IP: lac-flex225.ncia.net

I can't believe that chat last night went on for five and a half hours ... was so great to talk to people and have fun! I should throw Tim and Becca out of the house _every_ weekend! No, couldn't do that, I miss them terribly and the house is too damn quiet ... but thank you, everyone who came by to keep me company!

Fire Storm > I'm sure I can't be the first person to tag a cat with that particular moniker ; ) Naming pets in stories is always fun; I still liked Raptor the dog and Mister Grinch the cat from Black Roses. Oh, and I liked her too ... :(
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 01:54:35 PM
IP: 14-085.009.popsite.net

<SPOILERS FOR CHRISTINES STORY!>

Christine:
Nice name for a cat!
You killed her! And I REALLY liked her :(
*some tears form in Fire Storm's eyes*

<END SPOILERS>
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 01:45:34 PM
IP: t2-7.visitus.net

Happy father's day to people.

***WARNING SPOLIERS FOR TITIAN AE UNDERWAY!****
Well I took my little brother to go see the movie, and to be honest at first I had really low expectations for it (of course I mean this by plot.) I was plesently surprized though that it was a very good movie. The animation was beautiful, and the storyline was very decent. My only nickpick is the fact that the "enemy" wasnt an actual threat.. and we never did find out why humans were a threat to them. Oh well..
****END SPOILERS****

**Minor Spoliers for CardCaptors***
**sobs** Oh dear lord what have they done to this cute show! I turned on my tv Saturday morning with high expectations and it turned out to be a bad flop. WB has just totally killed another good anime. (reminds self to buy the fan-subbs) C'mon, they dont even say Sakura's name right.. Sa-koo-ra I'm totally discusted.
Before WB took Card Captor Sakura, another film company called Nelvana was supposed to take it. Sure her name would be Nikki in the dub, but they would've done a much better job with it. *sighs*
**End minor Spoilers**

Brooklyn- I'm almost done with your fic =)You shall get an email soon I promise =)

Jannie- Sorry to hear about your daughter up to those things.. ::hugs:: I offer you my support

Fire Storm> You know about Snapple Dragonfruit?! Hey arent those soo good? =)

Starsinger> Only just last night I saw the Seth Green thing on Sci fi! It was... interesting

Wellz, that's about it for now, more later perhaps?

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:36:31 AM
IP: spider-wi044.proxy.aol.com

Titan AE

This movie was awesome- incredible. Can't believe that people actually died and that they actually had the kahonas to show it. I think Bluth has really done a great thing for animation with this film.

work is better- actually I found out that the gal I thought was the culprit was really a pawn by someone else- an older gal who has real problems seeing someone younger in charge. I feel terrible that I blamed the innocent one, but I suspect that all's well that ends well.

Jannie- sorry to hear about your daughter. :( Hugz
jenna
Sunday, June 18, 2000 07:01:20 AM
IP: 1cust34.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

One thing to say and it's off to bed.
<Winterwolf>
That blows!!!I hope everything straightens out.
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Sunday, June 18, 2000 01:14:54 AM
IP: usr207.cqc.com

New on my site --
"The Dissidents: Coalition," is now posted. A shadowy organization. A brilliant young physicist. A secret project gone horribly wrong. And six gargoyles who have no idea what they're getting into ...
Also new pics by Graymonk and Demona May
Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:34:36 PM
IP: 14-082.009.popsite.net

Hi. I'm going to have to catch up on my posting later. I'm buried under a ridiculous workload. I mean I'm hear on a Saturday and it is almost 11:30 PM I got in before 9:00 AM. Help me! :(
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:27:01 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

Kit> I should be getting that e-mail address this week. It's obvious what it's going to be anyway.

Jannie> You were a drill team captain?! YEAH! You have to be one of my sisters now! What was your team called? We're the Lionettes.
SOROW
Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:23:58 PM
IP: dll2a010-0521.splitrock.net

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I kid thee not, that is an actual drink. Snapple "Fire" energy dragonfruit fruit drink.

And the ad for MY drink will be on my website soon as a Random Rambling!

Coyote: <Hummer>:
Yeah... that about sums it up. 4 miles to the gallon, a vehicle that you do NOT want to be involved in a accident with, AND is probally one of the heaviest vehicles currently available.
BUT, how many cars do you know that can drive through 48 inches of water?
I know I am (alot) biased about military vehicles. But you should SEE this place! All over the walls there are diagrams of how different components of this thing work. Plus the pictures! Even one signed by Arnold Schwartzeneggerionovicgmcmuscleson... ok, I made that name a LITTLE too big!
<well, glad ya liked Titan, FS>
Thanks! I am pretty sure you will like it too.

Wilek: <Sonic/Aliens crossover>
Don't worry. My family will take care of those pesky blue creatures! (I would read it, but the thing is 187k!)
<Heh, I thought the bits near Buffalo were stringy...>
Nope. Chewy. And served with a nice BBQ sauce!
<I'll keep it in mind. ^_^>
You would be wise to do so.

Skippy: I sent in my product survey and I got a gift certificate for one free blessing! (To be picked up at the church of my choice!)

Gside: 
It was. I'll get it again justin hayward. (It dosn't seem to be in my MP3 directory.)

Everyone who has said things about my job: Thanks! And maybe I will try to take some of their business to help my business!
(Also... I think I will apeal them docking my pay. I have been told that is illegeal)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 10:55:07 PM
IP: 216.90.45.82

*runs in*

jest a quickie post ^_^

Mecord< the wrists are doing much better. as long as I don't type too much I do alright. I have carpal tunnel in both wrists...*hugs* thanks for the concern.. *smiles*

*runs out*
cherry blossom
Saturday, June 17, 2000 10:51:23 PM
IP: spider-tl044.proxy.aol.com

I like a good weekend drive, don't you? (sarcastic) After twelve hours of driving (it makes one hate Connecticut) it is nice to be back here among the flatlanders (minus the designated cooker/cleaner). I saw many, many motorcyclists on their way up towards Laconia for a show/gathering.

Fire Storm> <>: I don't know what happened. I know I told ftp to put johnph* (or whatever was appropriate). Marines just didn't go thourgh. I am pretty sure I did put it up the next time, though (when I noticed it wasn't there to delete). It's there again.

Emambu> <<my favorite plays are "Hamlet" and "Henry V.">>" Mmm, Agincourt; R&G.
<>: http://tech-two.mit.edu/Shakespeare/works.html Complete searchable database of all Bill's work.

Winterwolf> <<Are you sure you just don't what to say 'it'?>>: What, 'is'?

SRS Jr.> Glad to see you got the space, and are working on getting the site back up.

Spacebabie> Buttercup Lizzardtush

Niavhgold> <<Hope your cousin's graduation goes well!>>: Whoever organized the Concord High School graduation deserves to die badly. They had the graduates march in extremely slowly (left, even, rught, even...). then they gave out the awards during graduation. All while being around 90 degrees (approx).

Jannie> I wish you all the best in what may come, and extend my condolences that you have not experienced the best in what has been.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, June 17, 2000 10:24:42 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Oops. Over eager on that last post.

Sorry for the tripple post.
Mec
Saturday, June 17, 2000 09:04:16 PM
IP: usr34.mtwest.net

DPH>> D) George Wilson and I) John Kennedy

Sorry for the double post.
Anonymous
Saturday, June 17, 2000 09:03:21 PM
IP: usr34.mtwest.net

Hi all, just home from a long day at work, we are inventorying the entire store. And while it isn�t a huge store, it is a difficult task. Especially the storage rooms are small and cramped and we often have to perch precariously upon ladders and shuffle boxes around, often having to open a box while holding two or thee others, in order to scan every little tag of every minute item. Utter chaos.

Jannie>> <we are Longhorn fans and certainly not Aggie fans> Hey, I�ll have you know I happen to be an Aggie. :) (Well, I go to their school anyway.) <law-suit happy people> It never ceases to amaze me what trivial things people will go to court for.

Kit>> When and where were you in Ut.? Don�t Falcons prey on other birds? Somehow fitting for Girl Scouts. ;) Since Boy Scouts are Eagles I guess that explains why we go fishing a lot. :)

Questionnaire>> <need not disclose your name or address unless you prefer a direct response to comments or suggestions.> A direct response from God? Cool!! :) But by the year 20000 I probably won�t have much need for a miracle.

New names>> I was throwing in names of people and characters and I found that Matt Bluestone�s name would be Pinky Toilet-tush and my friend�s name would be Poopsie Diaperchunks.

Cherry>> Hi! How�s the wrists? Is it one or both hands?

DPH>> F)Falafel Monkeychunks. Hmm, T,J,n... Todd Jensen? :) I) Poopsie Pottybrains: how about Jacob Killroy? (okay I made that up, but Killroy was all I could come up with) Ohh! G) Butch Cassidy! More guesses later.

My mind is to fried for an RP, I�ll wait for a day or two. At least I have Monday off.

later!
Mecord
Saturday, June 17, 2000 08:54:04 PM
IP: usr34.mtwest.net

**RP RELATED**
How does RP work? It just happens. The rules for RPing are at tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr .

Rodlox, your next BFTS RP post needs to time referenced so I know where to put in.

Winterwolf, Rodlox, check your email. Today, I am ending the battle. Any events occuring during the battle will have to occur before this post.
**END RP RELATED**

I am not even going to say what my new name would be.

Based on the name reassingment, guess which famous people would have the following new names:
a)Stinky Lizardchunks, b)Lumpy Lizardfanny, c)Face Gizzardfanny, d)Fluffy Chucklechunks, e)Stinky Toiletbunns, f)Falafel Monkeychunks, g)Lumpy Gigglebrains, h)Loopy Livershorts, i)Poopsie Pottybrains, j)Snotty Wafflechunks

By the way, I am saving the answers.

I just finished cooking fish and I am still cooking hushpuppies.

Knee report - Today was almost perfect for my knees, even less irration than yesterday. By tomorrow, I should not notice (hopefully).

Welcome to all the new posters at the, umm, room for the sanity challenged, otherwise known as the Gargoyles CR.

(DPH frantically thinks to find something else to write in this post.)

the following BFTS RP ends the battle. Any BFTS RP with the battle still raging logically occurs before this RP.
**BFTS RP**
Jason Filler had been trying to consentrate to end the battle. He had heard noise from all sides of the house. Suddenly, he saw flames burning through the north side of the house. He grew frantic and he finally completed consentrated on protecting DPH, Plastique, Winterwolf, and Rodlox.

Suddenly, the weapons of all remaining Speed Stars stopped working. Each of the remaining then quickly left the premises of DPH's house. Jason grabbed a fire extinguisher and put out all the flames he saw.

DPH and Plastique Saber walked in the house, carrying guns.

"What kind of guns are those?" asked Jason Filler.

"Just wait until everybody enters the house and I will tell you." said DPH.

Plastique runs off and makes a quick phone call to ITAG Headquarters.

She returns and tells DPH, "We have got bad news."

A few moments later, Winterwolf and Rodlox walk in the house.
**END BFTS RP for now**
I told you Jason Filler had a big role in this battle.
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 08:29:02 PM
IP: max1-58.cwy.cei.net

Has anyone else seen the Seth Green Scifi channel commercial?? Hold the Mayo indeed.
Starsinger
Saturday, June 17, 2000 07:54:11 PM
IP: proxy-722.public.rwc.webtv.net

Jannie: Ack! It's been so long that I just realized Camp Rio Vista was the adjoining boys' camp to where I worked as a counselor- Camp Sierra Vista. It's also between Dallas and San Antonio, not Dallas and Houston. They call it Campcraft too, not Wilderness Survival (I like that latter name better). Funny the things you remember after three years. <sighs> I am so embarrassed.

For a webpage on the place, click my name.
Kitainia
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:09:46 PM
IP: pool-209-138-200-36-dlls.grid.net

Jannie: You know how in the Boy Scouts the highest rank is Eagle Scout? In Girl Scouts, it's Falcon, or that's what they called it in my troop anyway. Camp Rio Vista is in South-Central Texas, somewhere between Dallas and Houston. Been such a long time since I was there that I've forgotten exactly where. :( Glad that your Cub Scout supervision went well, and you survived it despite the one episode of chaos. Sorry things with your daughter have been mucked up again. I'd say that I hope you can make peace once more, but it doesn't sound like it's going to happen. <sigh> Oh well, at least your life and your son's will be good. <fingers crossed> Let me and your many other friends in here know if you need our help with it, we'll be happy to provide it. :)
Kit
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:03:15 PM
IP: pool-209-138-200-36-dlls.grid.net

Kit> thank you =) I'm sorry though, I'm not familiar with Falcon Scouts - what type of organization is this? Where is Camp Rio Vista located? My oldest brother is a UT law school graduate, so we are Longhorn fans and certainly not Aggie fans!! ;)
My french classes are.....well, confusing. It's a very fast paced course & the teacher is not a professional instructor. He frequently says, "you'll catch on, eventually" and then rambles on about when he lived in France, the history & prosperity of his 3 sons, etc. I usually just do the best I can and then call Denis for further tutoring *L*

Cub Scout Twilight Camp - ohboy, I'm glad that's over. The junior staff was extremely good this year. No major problems other than the ocassional horseplaying instead of assisting.
The problem came when a local radio station did a live broadcast out there and the YOUNG dj stood on top of the van and told 350+ cub scouts to come closer for some freebies.... they stampeded the van. There was mass chaos, trampling and some injuries. Now, for the first time in the history of our district's day camps - a lawsuit has been filed. eesh, law-suit happy people *rolls eyes*
None of the injuries were serious - the worst being a swollen ankle. The staff & medical team worked quickly and efficiently in a triage set up, checking each boy that was there. The situation was quickly brought under control & everyone did the best they could. The DJ had no idea of the behaviors of young boys in an loosely -structured atmosphere and didn't realize the potiential danger in saying what he said. I understand the fear & panic that a parent would have under the circumstances - but not enough to file a lawsuit. *shakes head*

To add to my hectic, hot and tiring week - I found out that my daughter (who I *thought* was doing so well) has been back to her old tricks. She secretly moved in the scummy boyfriend that was left in Houston when she moved to Missouri into her apartment. Not only that, but they have left the state and are now moving to Arkansas. She was fired from her job & she is back into the "darkside" of LARP and other activities. *heavy sigh*
She is a liar, a manipulator and a user. I don't know who this person is that claims to be Anna and I don't have any desire to know her. She is NOT the daughter that I raised.
She's blown her 2nd chance with the family. She has once again chosen this scumbag and some new "friends" (she met over the internet a few weeks ago) over her family. I truly believe that she is not capable of loving anyone else but herself. Anna loves Anna. Not only has she lost her family support, she's homeless and jobless now. She was doing fine before the scumbag showed up - he shows up and her life goes down the tube. But, these are her choices & now she will live with them. There will be no more assistance nor communication with her. I wash my hands of her.
I am dealing with the pain and disappointment the best I can at this time. I've lost my daughter for a 2nd and final time.

Sorrow> I hope that you enjoyed your time at drill team camp. I know it's murderous, but once the body heals ;) I hope that you can look back with fond memories. I was also the drill team captain while I was in high school. It was some of my best memories :)

I wanted to respond to many other comments, but my brain is a tad bit numb right now... sorry.

I need a Twinkie *rummages thru the cabinets*
Jannie
Saturday, June 17, 2000 04:52:30 PM
IP: 209-144-251-172.hou.port.mytelco.com

Thanks extremely much (hmmm...something's not quite right with that sentence, but I'm too lazy to change that, but not too lazy to write that I'm too lazy...anyway) for the welcome. Actually I quite like it here, but for some reason my computer decided it hated me today and kept telling me the page couldn't be displayed (must be some sort of government conspiracy...) Oh, by the way, I checked up on reasons for why they stopped Gargoyles on the net and there was this one long letter from Greg Weisman posted on http://members.aol.com/patrickat/aerie/gregw.htm
and though some of the reasons sound kind of okay, I can't help thinking that they shouldn't have stopped it. (I also made a quick visit to the Buena Vista homepage and it wouldn't let me near the thing (the cowards...) Well, anyway, there's still got to be a way (a very courageous, yet corny statement, but true nonetheless.) I do believe my computer's trying to kill me again (could start calling it Demona...) so I'm off for the night. See you.
(Hmmm...Pinky BananaTush...not bad, not quite my style, but such is life)
Deasora
Saturday, June 17, 2000 04:25:54 PM
IP: 63.73.58.81

good Timedancer story ^_^
cherry blossom
Saturday, June 17, 2000 04:23:58 PM
IP: spider-tk052.proxy.aol.com

Hello How is everyone?

Here are a few quick posts.
<Winterwolf>
I logged on to MSN but you were logging off as I was getting on. Bad timimg eh. Well check your mail. There are a few questions for you.
<Deasora>
Welcome:)Here is what you do.
1st off never write in all caps. You really don't seem to have a problem with that but I did. Ask anybody when I first got here everyone thought I was nuts because I was screaming!
2nd here is another thing I had problems with, generally one post maybe two a day so if we have to reply to someone we generally do it in under two post. Instant messageing and email help communication aswell of coarse.
<Rodlox>
I'll be on later if you want to talk.
<Aaron>
I saved it in .txt. People say I should try .html. Maybe I should.

Well that is it for today I'll be back later for an evening post:)
C-YA

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 03:28:12 PM
IP: usr71.cqc.com

And, making a rare weekend appearence in the CR...

Deasora> Welcome.

Coyote> Hummers> True, but how many luxury SUVs have .50 cal machinegun and TOW missile system options? ;)

Brooklyn> What format did you submit the fic in. And did you check the automatic disclaimer box?

Robby> That ep of Reboot is a tribute to the classic british tv show The Prisoner.

Skippy> The god questionaire> LMSAO.

Crzy> You have kids?

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Saturday, June 17, 2000 03:05:49 PM
IP: ppp-276.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Well, my new name would be "Pinky GirdleTush" since my actual first name is Merilynn--that's better than "Booger GirdleTush", huh? ;P
Lynne Like - [mjlike@yahoo.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 02:03:13 PM
IP: fw1.directlink.net

I saw Titan AE last night. It has some really awesome parts... and some really bad parts... so if you balance them out (along with really cute animated male butt!!) it is
a fair movie. It has quite a few recycled classic sci-fi storylines... but I forgive them. It just made it more humorous for me. :) My 10 year old daughters totally loved
it and wanna see it again. It seemed much more like a step in an Anime direction than trying to compete with the Mouse.

BIG HUGE TITAN QUESTIONS...
**SPOILER ALERT!!**

Why in the world are the Drej after the humans? They never CLEARLY state why we are on their hit list. I would have least been happy if they would have said we
smell bad or something. I mean, in the end we use them like a big huge duracell... but other than that, we have no clue why they are hunting us down. I had that
"Darth Maul" feeling all over again. I was suppose to be afraid of the Drej... but really had no reason to be.

I also felt like Korso turning on them was just a plot device so that they could find some excuse to have the Titan AE equivelent of the Pod Race going on in an ice
field. It lagged on WAY too long and was just there to show off snazzy special effects. Korso's betrayl was hollow and unwarranted.

**END SPOILERS**

Just my humble opinions...
CrzyDemona
Saturday, June 17, 2000 01:23:54 PM
IP: mp2e12.ez2.net

How exactly does the RPing work? Does one just keep on posting up comments in reference to others?
Deasora
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:53:33 AM
IP: 63.73.58.93

Here's a little snipet I found thatI thought I ought to share, though I have to warn it is potentially offensive:

GOD'S TOTAL QUALITY MANAGEMENT QUESTIONNAIRE

God would like to thank you for your belief and patronage. In order to better serve your needs, He asks that you take a few moments to answer the following questions.

Please keep in mind that your responses will be kept completely confidential, and that you need not disclose your name or address unless you prefer a direct response to comments or suggestions.

1. How did you find out about God?
__ Newspaper
__ Other Book
__ Television
__ Divine Inspiration
__ Word of mouth
__ Near Death Experience
__ Tabloid
__ Burning Shrubbery
__ Bible
__ Torah
__ who?
__ Other (specify): _____________

2. Which model God did you acquire?
__ Yahweh
__ Father, Son & Holy Ghost Triplet Bundle
__ Jehovah
__ Jesus
__ Allah
__ Satan
__ God
__ None of the above, I was taken in by a false god
__ don't know what you're talking about.

3. Did your God come to you undamaged, with all parts in good working order and with no obvious breakage or missing attributes?

__ Yes __ No
If no, please describe the problems you initially encountered here:

4. What factors were relevant in your decision to acquire a god?
Please check all that apply.
__ Indoctrinated by parents
__ Needed a reason to live
__ Indoctrinated by society
__ Needed focus in whom to despise
__ Imaginary friend grew up
__ Hate to think for myself
__ Wanted to meet girls/boys
__ Fear of death
__ Wanted to piss off parents
__ Needed a day away from work
__ Desperate need for certainty
__ Like Organ Music
__ Need to feel Morally Superior
__ My shrubbery caught fire and told me to do it
__ don't know

5. Have you ever worshiped a God before? Is so, which false god were you fooled by? Please check all that apply.
__ Odin
__ Cthulhu
__ Zeus
__ The Almighty Dollar
__ Apollo
__ Left Wing Liberalism
__ The Radical Right
__ Ra
__ Barney T.B.P.D.
__ The great Spirit
__ The Great Pumpkin
__ The Sun
__ Bill Clinton
__ Ronald Reagan
__ Cindy Crawford
__ The Moon
__ A burning cabbage
__ drugs
__ Other: ________________

6. Are you currently using any other source of inspiration in addition to God? Please check all that apply.
__ Tarot
__ Lottery
__ Astrology
__ Television
__ Fortune cookies
__ Ann Landers
__ Psychic Friends Network
__ Dianetics
__ Palmistry
__ Playboy and/or Playgirl
__ Self-help books
__ Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll
__ Biorhythms
__ Alcohol
__ Bill Clinton
__ Tea Leaves
__ EST
__ Mantras
__ Jimmy Swaggert
__ Crystals (not including Crystal Gayle)
__ Human Sacrifice
__ Pyramids
__ Wandering around a desert
__ Insurance policies
__ Burning Shrubbery
__ Barney T.B.P.D.
__ Barney Fife
__ Other:_____________________
__ None

7. God employs a limited degree of Divine Intervention to preserve the balanced level of felt presence and blind faith.
Which would you prefer (circle one)?
a. More Divine Intervention
b. Less Divine Intervention
c. Current level of Divine Intervention is just right
d. Don't know...what's Divine Intervention?

8. God also attempts to maintain a balanced level of disasters and miracles. Please rate on a scale of 1 - 5 his handling of the following (1=unsatisfactory, 5=excellent):
a. Disasters:
flood 1 2 3 4 5
famine 1 2 3 4 5
earthquake 1 2 3 4 5
war 1 2 3 4 5
pestilence 1 2 3 4 5
plague 1 2 3 4 5
SPAM 1 2 3 4 5
AOL 1 2 3 4 5

b. Miracles:
rescues 1 2 3 4 5
spontaneous remissions 1 2 3 4 5
stars hovering over towns 1 2 3 4 5
crying statues 1 2 3 4 5
water changing to wine 1 2 3 4 5
walking on water 1 2 3 4 5
VCRs that set their own clocks 1 2 3 4 5
Saddam Hussein still alive 1 2 3 4 5
getting any sex whatsoever 1 2 3 4 5

9. Do you have any additional comments or suggestions for improving the quality of God's services? (Attach an additional sheet if necessary):

If you are able to complete the questionnaire and return it to one of our conveniently located drop-off boxes by June 30, 20000, you will be entered in the One Free Miracle of Your Choice drawing (chances of winning are approx. 1x10^256, depending on number of beings entered).

Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:41:23 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-46.ultravision.net

WHOOPS! Sorry for double post, as I posted the first time, my provider showed an error message, so I reposted everything without checking...I apologize.
Shadowrider
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:03:49 AM
IP: ppp-188-23.20-151.libero.it

<Shadowrider enters yawning>
Good morning, CR! Here it is a beautiful sunny day, so after finishing here, I think I'll take my bike and have a good tour. But friends come before everything else (except mom...) so on to replies.

Fire Storm:> <<...After a moment, FS walks back into the CR, scraped and dripping green blood. When the drops of blood hit the floor, they sizzle and bubble, burning holes in the floor.>> I always suspected it...;)

Winterwolf:> <Arthur/MacBeth> Hmmm...I'm not sure. Arthur has led a lot of battles, but MacBeth is not a novice too. Plus, MacBeth in his lafe could see a thousand years of tactical evolution (and, differently from Demona, MacBeth does not lose his temper so easily, so he can probably use his experience better), so he probably knows tactics Arthur does not. It would be a close match, anyway.

Doug:> I eagerly look forward for part 3, be sure of it. Oh...and thank you for your words.

Aaron:> <grins> Yeah, that chorus was a bit...off-language, isn't it? It is something you can hear in Rome and surroundings, when a group of young males spots a young and very attractive woman passing by. It is practically untranslatable (it is Roman slang...it cannot be translated properly even in Italian...but the meaning is about: "Please, let us see it/please, let us touch it" (I hope I need not to explain what is "it"...)

Deasora:> Welcome here. Hope you'll enjoy. Why the series has been stopped? A good question, indeed...and I'd like to have an answer for you...but, except for the total dumbness of Buena Vista executives, I have not.

Brooklyn:> <> Maybe someone has already answered...anyway, I had the same problem as I posted mine one. I tried with a .txt file, but it didn't work properly (odd characters everywhere). I think the best way is saving it in .html (you can do it in Word). Be sure to check carefully how it appears after, and use the "edit" function (in Netscape) to create paragraphs, for thy tend to disappear in saving. This way, it is supposed to work.

Niamhgold:> Be sure I'll do it. :)

Kitainia:> <<Congrats on ace-ing that exam>> Thank you so much, my friend. <<...rattlesnake meat, buzzard meat, fried grasshoppers, boiled cactus fruit, wild onion, and a few spices...>> Hmmm...seems not bad. A bit...unusual for me, but I'm sure it tastes great. Well, after all, in some zones of Italy, steamed frogs are considered a delicacy (If you are wondering, yes, I tried them...good, indeed...), so I'm supposed not to be surprised. I imagine that he uses only fresh rattlesnake meat...and, like every good cook, he chooses personally his ingredients...seems that his name is not due only to his tattoo.

Stop now. Later maybe.

See ya!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, June 17, 2000 06:01:58 AM
IP: ppp-188-23.20-151.libero.it

**RP HERE- THE TEN SAGA**

In a deep dank cavern lit only by eldritch-glowing skulls somewhere in the pits of Hell, Gothmenes and three other individuals sit around a table watching a monitor that is showcasing Four's battle with her various opponents. "So far it looks like we're winning," chuckles a large creature that looks like an amalgamation of a kangaroo, a bear, a scorpion, a rhino, a wolf, a vulture, a leopard, and an octopus. "Did you expect any less, Six?" grins a small winged hairy pig-man with many obvious cybernetic implants and a mouth full of shining green-steel teeth. "Four's skill is incredible. She's much stronger than you or I, or anyone else here, as well as anyone and everyone on that pathetic planet. Even if by some miracle they manage to defeat her, Three, Two, and One are waiting in the wings." "And I look forward to their rampage, Five!" says a half-robotic purple dinosaur with steer horns at whom the others turn to glare. "Death is such a beautiful thing. I kill you, you kill me, we rot in hell for eternity!!! With a�" "Zip it," Five growls, and Cyber-Barney (aka Ten) shuts his mouth. Gothmenes shakes his head as he watches the battle on the screen. "They may be spending their efforts fruitlessly, but Four's toying with them, giving them time to plan. That's dangerous." "Dangerous?" Six grunts. "But she's a hundred times stronger than any one of them, if not more! What harm is there in waiting to kill them, Eight?" The fiery demon lord shrugs. "Just a personal preference I have for the pace of battles. I like to plan my waves of destruction for a long time, and then execute them quickly and brutally. I don't give the enemy time to prepare, or dance around the point once the battle begins. That way, nothing is left to chance. And by the way, my name is Gothmenes." Five and Six exchange a mutual smirk. "Apparently, Four has a different favored strategy, _Eight_," Five sneers. "We'll see how it pans out. Given the power levels, she's sure to win." "I'm just angry we're being left out of things," Ten sighs. "A whole planet to slaughter. That's gotta be fun." "Perhaps we'll get our chance on some other world," Six shrugs. "If they hadn't shown the strength to defeat Seven�" He sighs. "Oh well, at least we get to watch the action. That's good enough for me." Ten grimaces and shakes his head. "I should have gone with Nine to take on Mephisto. Then I would have at least gotten some action." "That's where Nine is?" Gothmenes raises his eyebrows. "I'm surprised. Mephisto's power-level is way past hers!" "We tried to stop her," Five smirks, "but you know how headstrong she is." "Nor does she respond well to threats," laments Six. Gothmenes shrugs. "No matter. If she wants to waste her life avenging her student, it's none of our affair." Besides, it will make my work easier, he adds to himself. The other three demons in the room do not read his mind, instead going back to watch the battle on the screen. Gothmenes's infernal cell phone rings as he looks at them, and he answers it. "Hello? Yes, Turner? What happened?" He leaps up from his seat, causing the other demons to look at him. "How long ago did it happen? A paladin, you say? Involved with a secretary? Describe her." Gothmenes listens, then grins. "I know who she is. I used to supply weapons to a group of heroes she worked with. I should have warned you about them. Yes, I can get someone to track them down, I know just the person to contact. Don't worry, just let me handle this and get back to the plan." He hangs up and looks at the others. "I have to go." "Problem, Eight?" Five sneers. "Nothing I can't handle," Gothmenes snaps, spinning around and walking out of the room. He hears the laughter of Five and Six, along with Ten's vapid chuckles, and seethes with anger. Soon I will be rid of them, he swears to himself. Soon. The fire around the demon lord's head flares with his insane vow, and the screen goes blank.

**THIS RP WILL BE PICKED UP LATER, ON TO POST**

Greetings CR friends!!! :) Are you ready for the weekend? I know Doug and I are, we really need the relaxation that'll come with it. Hope we can get it, and same goes to anyone else in here who also requires some. Of course, during that relaxation, I hope everyone who wants to can go and see some great movies Doug and I just got back from watching, as well as read a great new Timedancer ep. To reveal how great these stories are, let's do some reviews. :)

**SPOILERS AHEAD FOR SHAFT, TITAN AE, AND RUBY EYES**

Titan AE- This film rocks, as Firestorm said. The animation is excellent beyond belief, blending CGI with standard drawing, anime, and many other styles. The characters are great too, well-developed and entertaining. The movie also has an excellent plot. Especially liked the development and characterization done on Crusoe, and the great comic villainy of Kreed. The other characters were also interesting, if a bit cliched in their personalities and actions. At least their voice acting was good. Really enjoyed seeing all the aliens in the film, especially the bat-like ones, who reminded me in many ways of gargs. Excellent action in the movie, and breathtaking effects. The end was also just plain hilarious. If it weren't for the cliched bits in a lot of the characters, the somewhat unbelievable event of world creation Mecord mentioned, and the lack of development on the Drej (who were just menacing energy aliens with powerful weaponry and not much else, we never did find out exactly why they were out to get humanity), the film would be a true masterpiece. As is, it's the best animated classic I've seen since Mononoke. 9/10, thumbs up.

Ruby Eyes- Great work, Robby! Liked this story immensely, the character development on Brooklyn was wonderfully written, and the dialogue between him and Demona was so good and full of nice development for them both that I really wish it had been real. That was the one disappointment I had with the episode, I liked everything else in it. From the well-drawn, well-colored, and very expressive pics to the cool character-developing fever dream to Loki's appearance, and Brooklyn's quandaries and self-exploration all throughout. The Vinnie bits were nice and entertaining, even if they didn't really have much plot impact. Also liked the bizarre creatures and their interaction with Brooklyn, I was confused by them at first but you did a very good job tying up their story at the end. Hope that someday we'll get to learn their final fate. The episode definitely gets a 10/10 in my book, thanks for the entertainment and keep up the good work.

Shaft- Also an excellent movie. Samuel Jackson turns in a great performance, and so do Richard Roundtree, Christian Bale, and the other actors, no matter how small their parts may be. The script of the movie is very well-written, with many scenes that say as much in gestures and expressions as well as actions and words. Well-coordinated nonstop action that delivers a thrill a minute, good comedy bits, and many nice testimonials to the original Shaft pictures. Only real disappointment is that there's not many scenes of Shaft getting the kind of female action he got back in the '70s. I guess they just didn't want to put that in. <shrugs> Movie was good enough without it, so it's not a problem. There were some places in the film where more development could have been done, but they're unnoticeable during the film itself. Final assessment- I dug this movie. 9.5/10, thumbs skyhigh. If you want to see a good action flick with nice comedy bits, well-acted performances, and nonstop thrills, definitely check it out. :)

**SPOILERS ENDED, ON TO OTHER THINGS**

Also saw the preview for X-Men at the theatre, this film looks very cool and well-acted, more so than I thought it would be. Dynamic action, and good dialogue from what I saw. Cyclops' name is apparently back to Scott too, the preview comic I read must have had a print error. :) I hope they've saved some cool bits for the movie itself, I'm definitely looking forward to watching it. The well-written Wolverine and Rogue comic prequels that come out this week only increased the hype. Also saw the preview for a film called Scary Movie that looks like a hilarious spoof of many recent horrible horror films, including Scream, Blair Witch, I Know What You Did Last Summer, and many more. Should be entertaining, the creation of this film almost makes the creation of those other films worthwhile. Just hope the jokes that weren't shown in the previews are as good as the ones that were. :) On the down side, they put the previews of Pokemon 2, Disney's The Kid, and several other bleah films for a young audience in front of Titan AE. That means the American movie people still consider animated films just for kids, even with all the adult elements in this particular animated film (nudity, violence, mature themes, etc.). I don't like that at all. :(

Christine: Congrats on finally getting your copy of GURPS Villains. Hope you think as highly of your work in there as I did. :) Also wish you good luck getting the pic in Dark of the Elvenwood fixed and finishing Dissidents: Coalition. Looking forward to very soon being able to read both.

Gasper: Thanks for the Chrono Cross info, I'm definitely going to check out that game. Hope it ties up some of CT's major loose ends (like Schala and what happened to her) and is as cool or more so as its predecessor in the series. Hope the hero has more to say this time, too. :) If you want to read fanfic from people in here, check out the archive at fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org. I know at least one author who would appreciate your perusal and feedback. <grins, nudges Doug>

Mecord: <You don't need my permission> Well, thought I'd ask anyway, just in case. :) Thanks for granting it. $ Thanks for letting us know Robby approved your idea, we'll do it. :) Thanks also for your response to the issue Doug raised last post, he and I were waiting for your answer to continue the Gubio in Turkey part of the RP story. We'll do that next post, and you'll see what happens. Don't worry, it won't be anything too terrible, just startling. :) $

Ironwolf: Welcome back! Missed you. Hope you soon settle your problems with RL, let us know if we can help. :)

SOROW: Sorry to hear you blacked out, really glad you're okay now and it didn't cause any problems. <relieved sigh> Good luck getting through what's left of the week, and getting your own e-mail. It should be easy, what with all the services available that provide it for free. If you can manage to get parental permission (a big if, I know), you probably won't have any other trouble. If you need help on this or anything else from me and Doug, you only have to ask. <thumbs-up, hug>

Jannie: Good luck with the operation, the French class, and the camp counselor work. As a Falcon Scout and former counselor myself, I know what an enjoyable job it can be. That's as long as the kids aren't too mean, obstinate, or hyperactive. I had that happen with many individual kids back when I counseled, and while it was nothing I couldn't deal with it was still not fun. (If you're wondering, I taught swimming and wilderness survival at Camp Rio Vista in Texas the summer before I came to UT. Also was responsible for keeping order in a cabin full of crazy young girls just entering adolescence. Hard work. At least it was worth it. :)

Calliope: Good luck to you in your camp counseling job too. Hope you have a good time with it, and make it so as many of your charges as possible can do the same. <grin>

DPH: Good luck getting over your knee problems, and getting to work for Axciom. If it's your dream job, you should definitely go for it. And you should probably get in too. Hope you can. :)

Shadowrider: Congrats on ace-ing that exam, sorry I forgot to acknowledge it last post. Also, thanks to you and to Archwolf for being glad I got to see Cobra again. I'm glad I got to see him also. He's truly a great friend, not to mention an excellent cook of surprising dishes (I will never forget Doug's expression when he tasted Cobra's desert stew. If you're wondering, that contains rattlesnake meat, buzzard meat, fried grasshoppers, boiled cactus fruit, wild onion, and a few spices. Very good to the taste :). He'll be on the road for a few more years, or so he told me. Still needs to find a good place to settle down. I wish him good luck in that endeavor, hope its fulfillment is not too far away.

Airwalker: You take care too. Have a good safe trip, hurry back. We'll miss your comments.

Mandi: Sorry to hear Now & Again won't be back, lousy network. You and many other fans fought hard for that show, it was great, and they had to cancel it. <sigh> Oh well, at least you got your fifteen seconds of fame. Just too bad it didn't get the result you hoped it would. :(

Wilek: Great results for the various fights. I really appreciate the workings of your twisted mind. <grins> Thanks for the entertainment.

Kyryn: Glad to hear your ovarian cyst problems seem over. Hope they stay that way. :) Also liked the radio DJ ficbit, thanks for posting it in here.

Firestorm: Sorry to hear you got fired for such obvious misunderstandings and small mistakes, but it's good you at least got out of a job you didn't like. Good luck finding a new and better one soon, hope it works out well. :)

Spacebabie: Booger Gerbil-Chunks? My name is Booger Gerbil-Chunks? This book you mention sounds a bit disgusting. Forgive me if I don't check it out. :(

Deasora: Indeed this is a great place. Welcome to it, and hope you enjoy. Believe me, we have been asking the same question you raised about Gargs for years. Still no closer to an answer. <sigh>

Rodlox: Good dragon flattery bit. That could actually work IMO. It's better than anything I've heard from my own D&D group when we confront dragons (of course we have a cynical and evil GM who always has the beast break out the ketchup no matter what we say, so maybe it would work for us, maybe it wouldn't <sigh>). Still, good bit.

And I guess that's all for now. Room's been remarkably slow this week. Hope it picks back up soon. For now, I must get some rest and continue enjoying this weekend. Good seeing you all tonight, will repeat the experience soon. Later!

**MORE RP- IN THE RAVENS' PART OF THE SAGA THIS TIME**

Doug, Kitainia, Keith, Tom, Lathrop, Orion, Wilek, and Anthony are running down a hallway in the station as fast as they can, hurrying to get to the control room and stop Guod from doing whatever he is going to do. As they turn a corner, a series of fireballs and lightning bolts smack into the wall beside them. "Demons!" Tom shouts, pointing at a small group of infernal creatures that has rushed out in front of the group as it stops. "God's Light fall on you!!!" Orion immediately yells, pointing his finger at the demon horde and causing them to scream and shun back as his being surrounds with holy flame. Lathrop lobs a meteor swarm and the rest of the group fires their weapons into the demon mob, destroying all but one in the ensuing conflagration. That one, a huge yellow shark-man demon carrying a harpoon is knocked down but immediately leaps to its feet. Tom gasps in recognition. "That's the one that killed Janice! I have to�" "Take it on," Kit tells him. "Good luck! We'll see you at the control room!" Tom nods, draws his baseball bat, and taps it in his hand. "Come on, fish-face!" The shark-demon roars a challenge and rushes him, while the others leave them behind and run on. "Are you sure it's okay to�" Anthony begins. "He's resourceful!" Kit interrupts. "Besides we have an evil clone to stop!" "Or what's left of him," Doug corrects. Wilek nods as they reach a door and he halts the party. "This is the control room. It looks locked, but�" He runs his keycard through the mechanism and smiles as the door clicks open. "Okay, this one works." "Good," Lathrop replies as they rush in, ready for action. No opponents stand before them. "Where's Guod?" Kit asks, looking around the cavernous control room and frowning as she says nothing. "Over there," Keith replies, pointing at a computer terminal with a head-shaped lump of metal and flesh hooked up to it. The ninja picks it up and grimaces as he looks into Guod's vacant eyes. "Looks like he's gone." "There's a message on the monitor next to him," Anthony says, pointing at some lines of green text. Orion reads them aloud. "'Dear Ravens. If you're reading this, you're too late. The file transfer of my brain waves into the Avatar's computer systems took a much shorter time than expected. Now my immortality is assured, and, as you will soon find out, so is my revenge on you. Rest in peace, your planet surely will not when I get through with it. Sincerely, Guod.' What is he talking about?" "I know the answer," Kit grimaces, "and it isn't comfortable." "What?" Doug asks. "What is it?" "Well," Wilek answers, "if he's downloaded himself onto the Avatar's computer systems, that means he can control the entire station. Unless the Borg circuitry in there is able to assimilate him," he grimaces as he taps keys on a screen, "and that function's apparently on the brink thanks to damage sustained from asteroid collision, he'll run rampant in the system and cause all kinds of trouble! I got to find his code-lines and isolate him, then erase him quick! Doug, put your hand on this scanner. Guod should still have the same brain wave patterns as you, even with your amnesia. That's the quickest and only way to track him." "Okay," Doug nods, doing what Wilek says and letting his hand be scanned. "But what did he mean about his revenge?" As he asks that question, the station's alarms suddenly start all blaring at once. "I think we're about to find out," grimaces Lathrop. "Thank you for activating the self-destruct mechanism," a computer voice announces. "The Avatar of Ganon will self-destruct in ten minutes." "Oh no!" Wilek gasps, adopting the classic Home Alone horrified expression. "Great!" Keith throws up his hands. "We're all gonna die!" "Can you stop it?" Anthony asks hysterically, the Ravens' faces asking the same question. "I can try," Wilek says, tapping keys and grimacing as the laughter of Guod echoes from the loudspeakers around them. "Great. An escape pod just blasted off from the Avatar, you can probably guess whose brain waves were in the computer system. Guod's headed back to Earth and there's no way we can stop him with this other crisis to deal with." "We'll worry about Guod later!" Orion shouts. "Cancel the self-destruct!" "I'm trying!" Wilek replies, tapping keys and groaning at the display. "Oh, &*(#! He's re-routed the self-destruct cancellation system! It can only be activated from the main power room! We don't have time to get down there!" "Maybe Miriam and Tricia do!" Kit yells. "Call them!" Wilek taps some keys to check, and smiles in relief. "You're right! They're real close to it, chasing some demons escaping from the main battle with Khesaat!" He grabs his communicator and screams frantically into it. "Miriam! Do you read me? Miriam!" The Ravens glance around nervously as the computer announces an eight-minute warning. "Guys!" Keith gets their attention. "We got another problem!" They spin around, and he points at the control room's force-cage, which is now shuddering and cracking as its occupant slams its sides with power blasts. "Mephisto, I presume?" Doug grimaces. "Yep, looks like it," Kit growls. "And he's about to get out of there. Everyone, as soon as he does, let's hit him with everything we got!" The other Ravens nod and ready their weapons as Anthony grimaces and draws his pistol, Wilek keeps shouting into his communicator ($ don't worry, Wilek, we are going to stop the self-destruct next segment! $), and the screen's image fades.

**TO BE CONTINUED, END RP AND POST**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 03:44:20 AM
IP: pool-207-205-144-203.dlls.grid.net

is it just me, or does half of Sharon look like Elisa? {ps: does anyone know what TGS eps have Sharon's transformation?}. thanks.

Rodlox
Saturday, June 17, 2000 02:48:09 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

ADMIN: {falls in a heap, crying out oaths of psuedo-fealty}...oh please spare me, wise one whose scales shimmer like the abundant wealth you possess; show mercy to the he-with-blunt-senses as a sign of your infinite benevolence; allow me to live so that i may add to the list of your servitors, to bring you yet more valuables and precious objects. but if you do decide to extinguish me, i know that your unending might will make it swifter than anything else, that you will forever be undefeated, and that others shall continue to revere you.

....<Grins> guess who got through reading the latest DRAGON magazine? {nice Dork_Towers}!

Rodlox
Saturday, June 17, 2000 02:46:44 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Rodlox- DO NOT USE THIS PICTURE! IT IS THE OFFICIAL PICTURE OF THE THE TGS STAFF AND IS NOT TO BE USED BY MERE MORTALS! YOU ARE...

AH, just don't do it again since you know better now, k?
Robby
Saturday, June 17, 2000 02:13:28 AM
IP: spider-th083.proxy.aol.com

oh...so that's what it looks like...sorry!!

SPQR!!

Rodlox
Saturday, June 17, 2000 01:41:53 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Anthony walks into the CR laughing his tails off. Mecord looks up. "what's so funny?"

"no offense," i tell Mec, "but it's your post...the <<Drej>> - not only does it sound like _dredging up stuff_...but it's also similar to some critters i've invented! such as..."...

the Hrej - enormous jellyfish, super-intelligent - unknown respiration type; colonial being - like the Man-o'-War jellyfishes....

the _Nu Yme_ - hard to explain these critters, as they're a small one is larger than most worlds, they have no bones, armor plates, or other hard parts...yet they're extreemmeelyy deadly - god-level powers go a long way for them.

so, as i offered long ago - anyone want an alien(s) ??

<---{i have NO idea what this one looks like}.

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 01:40:38 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**Mec walks in and plants a big sign.**

*WARNING: BIG POST*

*****Titan A.E. Spoilers*****
WOW!! This is an incredible movie. Nonstop action, lots of humor, double crosses, double crossing the double crossed, interracial tension, unpredictable events�the list goes on. I was surprised that the Drej didn�t play as major a role. Sure they are the big evil energy creatures but lacked the cunning and deviousness that we expect from most bad guys. They seemed to rely solely on brute force. The only problem I had with it was the rather unbelievable event concerning world creation at the end. They did make up for it with a gigantic laugh and the end. I�m not going to reveal it but it comes after the line, ��what are you going to call it?� *giggles uncontrollably* A definite five star movie.
*****END Spoilers*****

Brooklyn�s Quest>> Thanks for the promising comments, I�m looking forward to this project.

Ruby Eyes>> I�m finnally caught up with all the eps. This was great a great story, and I�m thinking we haven�t seen the last of this situation. The possibilities are endless.

Daniel Johnson>> <Was it a dream, or a prophesy?> Uh huh, like they�d tell you. :) (shades of Puck)

Doug>> <how vulnerable are dragons in your ficverse?> Well this ain�t Kryn. Remember my first rule of combat? That�s right, cheap shots happen. Short history lesson. When humans returned to Magia (they were wiped out by dragons a long time ago) one went insane and fled into the wilderness. Bardic heard rumors of humans he went to investigate. He found the insane human and landed. In his paranoid state, the human drew a .45 and fired. Bardic was unprepared for such an attack and was struck near the heart. It was a mortal wound and he would have died if not for a young girl who had been hunting the insane man. It was because of the girl who saved Bardic that old hatreds were put to rest. But to more specifically address your question, a dragon�s level of invulnerability depends on their magical power and their time to implement it. If aware of the attack, a dragon could withstand a missile. Lloky has powerful magic but is not the most experienced in battle. If she were to let her guard down for any reason� you get the idea. I�ve no problem with your plans. Dragons heal at roughly twice the rate of humans by the way, faster with the magic of another. Can�t be healed by her own magic. Oh and Robby okayed the idea for Mephisto.

Robby>> <ReBoot finally aired here and had a wierd psychological episode called "Number One"> Hey! I just saw that today! Weird.

New name>> Pinky Liverchunks *LOL* :P

Deasora>> Welcome.

SJ>> $What, can�t keep track of your soul? ;) Your soul is in Belfast being freed from its imprisonment in the necklace ShadowWolf put it in. May ask Archwolf for more, that�s his area.$

*****RP*****
Thicarrn the Elf watched nervously over his sister as the Borg medic tended to her wounds. Not far away the sounds of a bottlenecked battle ensued. With the dragon Kreg fully engaged in the battle there was little hope for the demons in the narrow passage ways. Khesaat and his fighting force had flanked the demons through an adjoining corridor, trapping the evil forces. Demonic reinforcements were on the way though. Every demon on the Avatar would sood be here. Thicarrn didn�t care about any of it. His sole concern was his sister.
A shadow encased demon burst forth from the deck not far from where they stood. Kyrel blasted the demon with dragon fire (receiving many strange looks as it came from the mouth of a human form), while Mery raised a protective shield around the elves. From the breach in the floor many more demons rose. Kyrel killed several, but most slipped behind a bulkhead and headed for the vulnerable troops. Several concussion explosions ripped through the demons. Mery looked to find the ravens joining the fray. Dreg joined his brother Kreg in the battle, picking off an errant demon that had slipped by his brother�s defense. Dreg�s mate Rynoz chased two demons, who were trying to escape the Ravens into a corridor.
Beside his sister, Thicarrn whispered, �You were right Lithanne, this was a bad mission. Heal, I have to have a talk with someone.�

On Earth.
Mecord and Senthet said their good-byes and mounted Bardic.
�I have a feeling that we will meet again. Until then,� Mecord saluted Winterblade and Warpmind as is his typical gesture of farewell to a respected friend.
With a great wing stroke, Bardic was airborne.
*****End RP*****

I'm tired and need sleep, G'night all!
Mecord
Saturday, June 17, 2000 01:04:06 AM
IP: usr16.mtwest.net

Okay, I'm here on my own all weekend while Tim and Becca are in Arcata helping his folks with their Retirement Yard Sale. So to keep me out of trouble, I'm trying to whomp together a little chat tomorrow night over on the Adult site (click or go to http://adult.gargoyles-fans.org/)

I will be there at 7:00 PM (that's Pacific time), Saturday the 17th. Anyone else?
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, June 17, 2000 12:11:36 AM
IP: 16-200.009.popsite.net

I think I'm going to change my name to better accomidate my new evil name
WJA
Oprah Diaperchuncks
Ehe?
Revel
Saturday, June 17, 2000 12:03:40 AM
IP: spider-wo083.proxy.aol.com

Hmm ... appears folks're gonna beat me to my Sunday double feature (me and mom are going to see "Shaft" and "Titan AE" consecutively) ... well, glad ya liked Titan, FS.
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:28:17 PM
IP: 216.28.101.68

TITAN AE ROCKS!

(Spoilers later!)

YES! I am the first to say I saw this! Happy dance!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:24:57 PM
IP: t3-72.visitus.net

Hello! This is Stinky Diapertush, hahahahaha! For all those who asked, I am quite alright from my blackout yesterday. It was just very scary. Tomorrow is the last day I have to dance for 4 weeks...YEA! *everyone dances around the room*

Wilek> Aliens/Sonic crossover?! ....oh....my....God!
SOROW
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:22:43 PM
IP: dll2a010-0282.splitrock.net

Hee hee..

I'm Pinky Gigglehead. Sailor Gigglehead to you, acting gracfully!!!

::does really big vapid smile::
Mara Shinigami Cordova
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:09:12 PM
IP: spider-te034.proxy.aol.com

Winterwolf> <<How about Puck vs. Coyote in a Magic the Gathering match? :)>> It'd end in a draw. They'd get bored and start turning their cards into the actual objects they depict, and Xanatos would decide that the Obelisk Of Undoing would look great in his office.

Rodlox> <<didn't somebody(s) here say that Demona killed Madoc, who was roughly Oberon's equal?>> It was a lucky shot; she clubbed him in the back of the head with an iron mace before he realized she was there. ;)

**TD SPOILERS**

OH. MY. GODS. This is, hands down, my favorite TD ep. Strike that, my favorite TGS ep. I'd almost go so far as to say that it's my favorite Gargs ep, counting the actual TV series, but I'd probably be lynched as a heretic. Robby, when I take over the world, you will be the official minister of something or other. I thank you for writing this. :) I wonder if we'll ever encounter the rejoined creature...oh, and having Loki recite one of Puck's bits from Midsummer Night's Dream was so...twisted. ^_^

**END**

Cyborg> <<those <blepping> beurocrats kicked me out of my degree program for being a cripple>> What...?! <grr> They will die in an orgy of violence...

Doug> <<Good luck with the story, I'll probably read it when you get it out. :)>> Thanks. ^_^

SOROW> <> ACK! O_O' Hope you're feeling better, and it doesn't happen again...

Robby> <<the third season of ReBoot finally aired here and had a wierd psychological episode called "Number One">> OMG, I saw that episode *today* (for the first time, no less)! O_o

Mandolin> <<Yesterday, they told Paramount there was no way "Now and Again" would be returning no matter what Paramount, Picturemaker, or the fans did. Since Paramount has exhausted all other options (smaller networks and cable nets can't afford the show), the "Now and Again" sets are being struck. There's no chance of new episodes of the series being aired.>> Oh GODS. >:/ I've never seen this show, but from what I've heard of it, it sounds great...why do all the good shows get the axe before their time...

DPH> <> Because of the same idiots who killed Gargoyles. Reboot originally aired on Saturday mornings on ABC, which is owned by Disney. Which, when you think about the third season's content, should explain everything.

Fire Storm> <<Yes! Pork pies marble silver fork!>> Ehh, silver fork staccato shard lesion. Weasel girders ruke! ^_^ <<Sticky bit near Ontario? But I want the chewy parts near Buffalo!>> But of course. :) Heh, I thought the bits near Buffalo were stringy...<<Roman cartwheels bring crunchy towers of Piza. Remember that and you will go far, grasshopper.>> I'll keep it in mind. ^_^

Spacebabie> New name generator> My new name is apparently Oprah Rhinofanny. <GRR> Professor Poopypants, your death will be very long and very, very excruciating.

Brooklyn> <> Save it as a TXT, HTM, or HTML file before uploading. :)
Wilek Nereus
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:06:18 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Just a couple things tonight:

Possible RP Correction: Um, to everyone I'm involved with in the RP....it's SAMMAEL who's teamed up with Kari. Yes, Sammael the Demon is in SJ's body, but it ain't SJ (technically), unless you're trying to imply that the other folks just think it's SJ cause they don't know his body is possessed. In which case I shall insert my foot into my mouth.
Last I heard, SJ's soul was kicking it with Warpmind and Mecord. Boys, any hint as to where the hell my disembodied spirit is right now?

Coyote: Where I come from, a "hummer" ain't a vehicle, it's a physical act, and a naughty one at that! ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:04:39 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

** Enter Rhinolizard **

Actually, it's "Niamhgold," but I took Spacebabie's new alphabet-namer and my name turned into rhinolizard. Now, does that mean I'm a lizard with a big nose, or a rhino that has one of those snake tongues? ;)

My real name is Flunky Wafflepizza (** Endless giggling ensues **)

Winterwolf: ** Hugz back ** thank you! Your words worked; today was sooooo much less stressful than yesterday. And I'm going to Nova Scotia this weekend, so I'll have even more fun! :)

Gside: So, you're going to Concord, NH? It's not too bad of a town; I've been to Manchester more often than I've been there :) Hope your cousin's graduation goes well!

Emambu: Thank you!

Deasora: Welcome! Now, just take a ticket, dear, and wait for the nice man with the straight-jacket to call your number :) (Insanity runs through here 24/7)

Shadowrider: Allrighty, I've got the time down! Make sure to check your email on that day ;)

Firestorm: Hello, Doctor Nick!

Adios, amigos!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 09:35:30 PM
IP: lac-flex134.ncia.net

My new name is Loopy Toiletnose? Um, yeah... Thats the nice thing about this room, tis very rarely dull for long...

Wilek- SOnic the Hedgehog/Aliens crossover. Well, now I *HAVE* seen everything.
Robby
Friday, June 16, 2000 09:01:15 PM
IP: spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com

Hello
I tried to post my story but I apparently didn't have it in the right format. Can some one tell me how to do this?
Thanks now back to the other frustrating and time consuming things I have to do.:( I'll put up a real post tonight.
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 08:51:31 PM
IP: usr66.cqc.com

**enters**

Well, we haven't got mom's 'Stang yet ... but we're workin' on it. She's going back to the dealership on Monday to find out if she can get financed. And hopefully she'll be able to get that '00 Mustang she test-drove. :)

Oh yeah ... since I mentioned the other day the cooking contest being won by Sata if I judged it (considering my taste for Asian foods) ... prior to going to the dealership yesterday we had dinner at a local Japanese steakhouse/sushi bar. :)

Jenna: Drop me a line with yer e-mail, I have your decal done and I don't want to get it mixed up with the ones being auctioned.

Thoroughly off-topic: If I might make a suggestion for comic reading ... even for those who are not comics fans ... check out the most recent issues of "Impulse." The current storyline that's running involves Max Mercury dying, and specifically how Bart copes with the knowledge. Trust me ... if you've ever lost a very close loved one (as I did at the beginning of the year), it's a very poignant and powerful storyline, even for a title with a humorous reputation like "Impulse." (Issues #62 and 63 are out, and #64 is the one that concludes the storyline)

Mara-ko: Well ... if you decided to go with it ... I'm kewl with it, Amara-ko. ;) **kiss kiss**

Fire Storm: Yep, the Hummer, that bastion of governmental inefficiency brought to the masses at an obscenely high price. Motor Trend put the Hummer in a comparo test against some other luxury SUV's, and it placed firmly in last in a number of important categories ... including ergonomics (the back seat is two buckets separated by "40 acres of wasteland," according to MT), driveability (it's kinda like driving a giant "Pole Position" game down the highway), and performance (it tops out at 70mph). However, the test terrain ... Death Valley ... showed why the Army *loves* the things.
Incidentally, condolences on the loss of thine job. Here's hopin' one of those client companies gives ya a nice cushy job.
And as far as taking clients goes? OPEN GAAAME!!!

Wilek: You're right. I *don't* believe it.

Spacebabie, re: name gnerator: Hmm ... interesting, apparently I gain the name Gidget Bananajuice. Lemme try some other names running down my list of people I dislike ...
Bill Clinton: Lumpy Gigglechunks
John Rocker: **chortle** Poopie Gizzardbuns
Adolf Hitler (deserved cheap shot): Stinky Wafflebuns (looks like *someone* was sittin' in that tank for way too long! **laughs uncontrollably**)

... well, that just about covers the list. :)

Deasora and all other new folks I missed last time: Welcome, have a seat, leave yer sanity by the doorman, make yerselves comfy. :)

Well, that be all for me. **skips out**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, June 16, 2000 08:41:44 PM
IP: 216.28.101.11

This place is wonderful! I still wish they would bring back the series, but nonetheless this is a good rendition of it. Why did they quit the series anyway? Isn't there anyway to bring it back?
Deasora
Friday, June 16, 2000 08:12:24 PM
IP: 63.73.58.89

Hmmmm
*****TDS Spoilers******

Robby-Kudos on a good job, As a person who has seen every X-file episode and own several books on the show. The N.American monsters were portrayed accueratly. I remember seeing the Moth men with red eyes. The inner torture that Brooklyn went through was good and it was nice to see Payne again, even if it was only in Brooks mind, being played by Loki. And I LOVED the Artwork!
******End Spoilers******

I was emailed this
The following is an excerpt from a children's book, "Captain Underpants
> > >and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants", by Dav Pilkey: (a great
> > >book, by the way).
> > >
> > >The evil Professor forces everyone to assume new names.....
> > >
> > >Use the first letter of your first name to determine your NEW first
> > name:
> > > a = stinky
> > > b = lumpy
> > > c = buttercup
> > > d = gidget
> > > e = crusty
> > > f = greasy
> > > g = fluffy
> > > h = cheeseball
> > > i = chim-chim
> > > j = poopsie
> > > k = flunky
> > > l = booger
> > > m = pinky
> > > n = zippy
> > > o = goober
> > > p = doofus
> > > q = slimy
> > > r = loopy
> > > s = snotty
> > > t = falafel
> > > u = dorkey
> > > v = squeezit
> > > w = oprah
> > > x = skipper
> > > y = dinky
> > > z = zsa-zsa
> > >
> > >Use the first letter of your last name to dertermine the FIRST half of
> > >your NEW last name:
> > > a = diaper
> > > b = toilet
> > > c = giggle
> > > d = bubble
> > > e = girdle
> > > f = barf
> > > g = lizard
> > > h = waffle
> > > i = cootie
> > > j = monkey
> > > k = potty
> > > l = liver
> > > m = banana
> > > n = rhino
> > > o = burger
> > > p = hamster
> > > q = toad
> > > r = gizzard
> > > s = pizza
> > > t = gerbil
> > > u = chicken
> > > v = pickle
> > > w = chuckle
> > > x =tofu
> > > y = gorilla
> > > z = stinker
> > >
> > >Use the last letter of your last name to determine the SECOND half of
> > your
> > >NEW last name:
> > > a = head
> > > b = mouth
> > > c = face
> > > d = nose
> > > e = tush
> > > f = breath
> > > g = pants
> > > h = shorts
> > > i = lips
> > > j = honker
> > > k = butt
> > > l = brain
> > > m = tushie
> > > n = chunks
> > > o = hiney
> > > p = biscuits
> > > q = toes
> > > r = buns
> > > s = fanny
> > > t = sniffer
> > > u = sprinkles
> > > v = kisser
> > > w = squirt
> > > x =humperdinck
> > > y = brains
> > > z = juice
> > >
> > >Thus, for example, George Bush's new name is Fluffy Toiletshorts.
> > >
> > > Go figure. :)

I'm Pinky LiverTush...who are you?
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Friday, June 16, 2000 07:45:11 PM
IP: user-37kaouf.dialup.mindspring.com

Just thought I'd stop in to say hello, and yes, I do still exist (but barely). ;) Been really busy lately- I'm driving a summer school route, and I have Tommy enrolled in the S.S. session to gain some "classroom experience", since I homeschooled him last year for Kindergarten. He's doing great! I also volunteered to aid around the office at the school for the duration of the summer schl session, and I'm having fun. I'll also be a substitute teacher starting next year :-O Well, at least I'll give it try! My hubby's reaction: "OMG, they're going to unleash YOU on those poor kids!!??" YEP, heh, heh...

Hey, Winterwolf, darlin'! The last card you sent to me came over with an error message, so I couldn't reply. :( Would you mind resending it? Pretty please w/sugar on top? It was weird, my sister in MO had also sent me one that had the same message. So, my conclusion was that something was up with Care2. Sorry it took so long to reply to you! BTW, have you started riding horses yet??

See y'all later.
Lynne Like - [mjlike@yahoo.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 05:56:21 PM
IP: fw1.directlink.net

Robby> Thanks ^0^ That quote was driving me nuts!
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 05:40:47 PM
IP: spider-wd052.proxy.aol.com

*drags herself in*

Hellos!

I am so tired! Today we went to a Discovery Zone type place and we had so much fun, but thoses places are not made for "big kids" and I have a major back ache!

And I have the most adorable co workers! Realy, they are so sweet and cute! Why if I were a good 2 or 3 years younger I'd nab one for myself! :P

Doug> Yeah, i know what you mean, but I dont think I get power trips from being couceler, thoses kids compleatly run me over whenever they want to and I'd proabably hug em for it! But they're good kids and theyre good with instuctions so I dont have to go there. Thanx for the good luck wishes too! :)

Niamhgold> OooOoooOooo!!! Cake!!! Thanx! *gobbles it down* :)

Sorow> Woah! I almost blacked out it a burger king once cuz I hadnt eaten all day and I was by myself so that would have been bad, but I only went cold, pale and dizzy.

Winterwolf> Well, I dont get paid to play with kids, its voluntier work, but its ok, I still love my job :)

Well, I gotta go, I need to get some sleep, I'm going to the beach tomorro too!!!! These past few weeks have been good to me! :P I hope they keep trating me right next week!

Bye all!!! *HUGZ and drags herself back out*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 05:03:35 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

It's been a day.

Mara>Shot you another em. Hope it works this time. As for the chibi-drama, ah well, it was fun while it lasted, ne?

SOROW> Are you okay? Hugz.

Mary Flanders> Welcome back.

Winterwolf> Nah, Glasses can't turn into Puck any more then Vogel can, so I'd still vote for Owen. Still, it is an interesting parallel between Mr. X and Tony.

Shadowrider> I have no idea what you said, but I think I understand the sentiment.

Wilek> That link was indeed strange.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, June 16, 2000 04:06:30 PM
IP: ppp-60.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Shadowrider: That's alright. As long as you're reading and enjoying (and I eventually know so) I'm happy. :) Finish the story whenever you can, I look forward to hearing what you thought about it when you get back (as I hope you will look forward to Part 3). Will miss you.

That's all for now, off to see Shaft.
Doug
Friday, June 16, 2000 03:37:36 PM
IP: pool-207-205-145-106.dlls.grid.net

Gotta make this brief, I have finals in about 10 minutes...

*****TEENSY TIMEDANCER SPOILER*****

Winterwolf- Near as I can tell, the only things that hurt the Jersey Devil were head wounds. Everything else, including a cannonbal, just bounced back. Makes a bit of sense, I think, everything else was protected by a thick hide, but the head... Well, the head is vulnerable...

And I have no idea which option you think was true. The first one?

*****END TIMEDANCER SPOILERS*****
Joxter
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:58:08 PM
IP: spider-tp084.proxy.aol.com

Click my name. Y'all are not going to believe this. I still don't believe it. O_o
Wilek
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:13:41 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Greetings all...

Just a note for all website owners in the fandom: my site is slowly but surely being rebuilt. For those that want to, you can update a link to my site by either clicking on my name or using the following URL:

http://www.chatweb.org/stephenrs/index.html

There's not much there right now, but I'll soon have everything in place... eventually. :)

Maintain and Check Six!

P.S. - Spike, I need that splash graphic for the one page! :)

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:10:15 PM
IP: m140.ieway.com

Off-topic plea > the voting for the Origins Awards is now up at http://www.gama.org/academy/vote/vote.phtml?election=Origins00 (or click).
This is the Oscars of gaming, pretty much, and my introduction-writing buddy John Kovalic has been nominated for Best Gaming Mag with Dork Tower.
Hint, hint.
; )
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:42:56 PM
IP: 07-128.009.popsite.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR.**

Last night was a long and evil night. I was stuck doing laundry till nearly midnight. **sigh** The kicker is my clothes didn't need to be done. I had plenty more left. After that I read the latest TD. Great story Robby! Then I read the CR but Mr. Sandman visited me right after that. :p

SOROW> I sent you an email. How did all that dancing and work go? That was on Thursday right? <blacked out> Oh no! Are you okay? **Winterwolf is here if you need some to lean on.** ^_^

Brooklyn> I'll send you email later. For the fanfic stories goto http://fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org/

Kyryn> <Health> That is great news! I'm delighted to hear that you're fine. ^_^

Bronx> Congratulations on finishing up your classes. I'll take a small piece of that victory cake. :)

Shadowrider> As soon as I started reading your description of Warhammer it clicked immediately. If they were playing that it would be an extremely close call between Arthur and MacBeth. I'll give it to Arthur because he was involved in more battles and campaigns than MacBeth was. He has more military experience and all that. <Wednesday> I've marked it on my calendar.

Caliope> <Pay to play> If I typed that it was a mistake. Either way I meant you get paid to play with the kids. ;) The camp I was part of was similar to yours. The one big difference was it lasted 6 weeks. We always went somewhere different every day. ^_^

Aaron> <include Glasses> Hmm� If I included Glasses would you vote for him? Actually he does fit in pretty well with the other two.

Cyborg> <email> I'm glad that's all fixed up.

Daniel Johnson> RL should get better. Don't worry about it. There are rough spots all the time. :(

Doug> <Fox vs. Robyn> Hmm� <Robyn seemed hardier than Fox> I still say this one is up for grabs. As I recall (I haven't been able to any episodes in years) most of the time Robyn looks stronger is due to various pieces of equipment she is using. Looking back on this and reactions I've had to my posts in the past I have to say I'm not trying to sound angry. I just felt like inputting my opinion. :)

Niamhgold> How exhausting has today been? Not a bad as yesterday I hope. Then we should play sometime. I'm not very good either. <getting tired> **Hug** Hope you got a good night sleep and feel better today. ^_^

Mary Flanders> Cheers on finishing your semester!

Katara> Hi! May you be free to spend time with us here soon.

Rodlox and Robby> <What Dark Ages had the egg reference come from?> I remember that one it was the second season of Dark Ages "To Every Season" It was a story Brooklyn himself told to Jeffrey Robbins

Gside> Are you sure you just don't what to say 'it'? ;)

Fire Storm> <Do you think it is wrong of me to try and take their customers from them?> After the way they treated you? No. I think you'd be wrong not to do so. They'll wind up loosing them anyway. At least that's what I think. <other stuff> 8D

******TD STUFF. MAYBE SPOILER MAYBE NOT. LOOKED IT OVER DEFINITELY SPOILER******

Ruby eyes - My personal take:
I think it has already been said, but who doesn't like praise? That was excellent work weaving together various historical legends. Go TGS staff! The story itself was great. Surely it is one of the top stories this season! My one dislike was the wicked short hops of the phoenix gate. That almost sounds like baseball. Oh and the phoenix gate took a wicked hop catching the shortstop completely by surprise! What I getting at, is the parts where the phoenix gate pops Brooklyn in then almost immediately sends him to another place and/or time. I understand that this is an important factor for this story. I'm not disputing the value of it or anything like that. In fact it was well done and vital to the story but I personally just don't like seeing multiple wicked short hops in succession. Okay now that that is out of my system there is so much more to praise. Brooklyn has some major character development in Ruby Eyes. Did I mention how good the story was? ;) The continuity was right on target. The pictures were excellent! Now I thought the Pandora stuff was pretty ambiguous. I would say nothing definitely happened if he didn't mention only Sata and Pandora the first time around. Still thinking about it a bit I'd say the only reason she came second was because he saw her somewhat recently. Not only that but Brooklyn being able to bear his soul to Demona shows how much he has grown emotionally and speaks of how he wouldn't have sown his oats with Pandora. The one part I haven't figured out yet is why the Jersey Devil wasn't hurt from the second gunshot. Anyone have any ideas? As for what happened to Ruby Eyes I have two theories that I'll share. Pick the one you like and if you don't like any then make up your own.
1. The creature was made whole again to determine its own future. It was disrupted from being whole initially so as not to serve the woman who created it or because Loki was attempting to kill the Brooklyn to free himself from the gate or a combination of the two.
2. The creature was snuffed and had no chance of being made whole. The gate itself steered Brooklyn into the creature to disrupt it and encounter the various Ruby Eyed creatures. The purpose was to eliminate the creature so it could not serve its female master.

A cyber ice cream treat to the first CR member that guesses which theory I'm leaning towards. Hmm I guess if the first one doesn't get it, the second one will� Oh well. :)

I'd say more but I think everyone gets pretty tired of my ramblings after a while.

******END TD STUFF. MAYBE SPOILER MAYBE NOT. LOOKED IT OVER DEFINITELY SPOILER ******

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Charles and Ira released the triggers of the flame throwers and walked up to the charred remains. Both of them had cruel satisfied smiles on their lips.

A pair of eyes watched the scene in disbelief "Winterwolf is dead? No, he couldn't have been killed so easily! Or could he? I wanted him for my own amusement." The eyes scanned the scene more carefully. "Ah! You are a resourceful one. I fell for that deception once." With that the hidden figure left.

The illusion Winterwolf was weaving had fooled these two and now he had an opportunity to deal with them. He moved behind them as they were getting ready to set the house ablaze.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Adios mis amigos!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:42:17 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

***Kyryn sneaks back in***

*blink* The post below is mine. I forgot my color and my name. I think that I'd forget my head today if it wasn't firmly attached.

Later!

***Kyryn sneaks out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:08:49 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Rodlox: <<<Spike: <<It's called a "spur." If it's on the foot, it's a "heel spur." Similarly, gargoyles also have "wing spurs" and "knee spurs.">> i thank you, Oh Benevolent One. long had i wondered what it was called in gargoyles, antelope, and other digigrade animals. again, thank you.>>>

Actually, if it is just the joint itself, on quadrupeds, you are referring to what is called the "hock." To quote the American Heritage Dictionary : "The tarsal joint of the hind leg of a digitigrade quadruped, such as a horse, corresponding to the human ankle but bending in the opposite direction."

On a gargoyle, it would simply correspond to an ankle/heel. Gargs walk on their toes, taking most of their weight on the balls of their feet. Thus, a pointed bony outgrowth in the ankle area would indeed be an ankle or heel spur.

Anonymous
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:07:02 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Spike: <<It's called a "spur." If it's on the foot, it's a "heel spur." Similarly, gargoyles also have "wing spurs" and "knee spurs.">> i thank you, Oh Benevolent One. long had i wondered what it was called in gargoyles, antelope, and other digigrade animals. again, thatnk you.

Rodlox
Friday, June 16, 2000 12:26:10 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Sorry for the double-post but I almost forgot: Happy birthday (belated) Niamhgold! I hope it was fun for you.

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:31:22 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

*Emambu enters after a long patrol (I mean absense). He spots Brooklyn in an old easy chair, and plops down into an empty chair next to him. They exchange greetings and Brooklyn hands Emambu a tray of brownies. Emambu thanks Brooklyn and begins to eat while he relaxes for the first time in days. Mmmmmm... chocolate.*

Hello everyone. I wish I could stay longer but I can't. I'm leaving for Delaware tomorrow and I'll be gone all week. But before I go...

Brooklyn: I'm going to try and print out your fic as soon as it goes up, so I can take it with me and read it while I'm gone. When I get back, I'll give you some feedback. BTW, excellent brownies. :)

Rodlox: Likewise with your story. I'll read it while I'm gone and then give you some feedback when I return.

Sata vs. Demona (some variations): If it's cooking, I'd have to give it to Sata simply because Demona doesn't have the patience to be a good cook. I can just see her smashing her table, and all the food, out of frustration because one of her dishes didn't turn out the way she wanted. However, if they played each other in Tennis, I'd give it to Demona for two reasons. One, Demona has probably had more practice. Two, tennis rackets just aren't designed with gargoyle hands in mind (a damper on both ladies but sata in particular since she's probably a novice). As for chess, I'd have to call it a draw initially but then later on give it to Sata. Demona's impatiance would be a hindrance but she could probably still win regardless because I don't think that Sata has ever played chess before. Given enough time though, I think Sata could win after learning how all of the pieces work.

Thailog vs Proteus: Although Thailog has intelligence on his side, Proteus could simply morph into something that he cannot handle.

Xanatos vs Dracon: Unless Dracon has a stroke of unbelievable luck, then Xanatos would utterly destroy him. Dracon lacks the resources, connections, and saavy. Plus he doesn't have an exo-suit.

Shakespeare: I always enjoyed "Midsummer Night's Dream" for its comedy and its imagery. Greg Weisman must have liked that play too (of course that's just assumption, and we all know what they say about assumptions being the proverbial cause of all major screw-ups). However, my favorite plays are "Hamlet" and "Henry V." "Othello" was also good but I was always disappointed that we never saw what made Iago tick. In "Hamlet" we get to see some of of Claudius' vulneralbility while he prays, but we never really know why Iago hates Othello so much. "Henry V" has some amazing speechs in it. I wish I had the book on me so I could share one.

Timedancer: No spoilers... I just want to say that I really liked this part. The detail, the dialogue, the fact that we learn more about Brooklyn as a character... all of it was incredible. You should be very proud, Robby. Oh yeah, nice pictures too. :)

Well, that's all for now. Hope to see everyone next Saturday. Take care,

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:26:32 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

<Fire Storm enters the CR>
Hi everybody!
*Hi Doctor Nick!*

<>WARNING! JOB RANT!<>

Well, LM wanted me to spend more time at home. She got her wish.
They fired me. Although I am not surprised, I still don't like it.
Here are the reasons that they fired me.
1. I lost a NEXTEL cell phone (GIVEN, I did loose a cell phone, but I would have been willing to take care of that.)
2. I didn't follow the chain of command or do things the way they wanted me to (Well, it's kinda hard to follow orders and LEARN the chain of command WHEN THE MANAGER IN CHARGE GOES ON VACATION AFTER I HAVE BEEN THERE A WEEK! PLUS I had to train a newbie while she was on vacation. Yes, it was a rocky start)
3. They say I messed up the computer system of one of their biggest clients (For starters, it would have been nice if someone else helped me. Because I called Ameritech to fix the customers problem and Ameritech couldn't fix it right away, I get the blame)
4. They say I lost a $400 part (Ok. I KNOW I had that part IN THE BUILDING. But when I went to count the parts, 1 was missing. So they fired me AND are docking my pay for that part.)
Anyway, I am glad I am out of there. From the feel of the place, they needed a scapegoat because they were losing one of their biggest clients. (They had already lost another big client a few months before I got there, but more on that later)

I just happened to screw up and have every single good thing that I tried to do screw up.
But this company is going downhill anyway. Currently they have 5 salesmen, 3 people in accounting, a secretary, and 2 field technicians. They WERE authorized for Dell, HP, and Compaq. They lost their Dell certification, and no one there has any HP certification. I was the only one there with A+ certification, and the only person who has MCSE certification was coming to me for NT questions.

Yep. HE was coming to me! He went to a MCSE "Cram" session (They teach you the answers to the questions, not the actual info). He is relatively incompetent but they can't fire him. He is the owners cousin. He is the one that made them loose the big customer before I got there (I believe the customers words were "Never send him again" and when they did send him, the customer called and told them to send someone else.)

As for the other guy� I have had to go out to customer sites and repair the damage he did.

Well, all over again the customers liked me but the management didn't. Oh well. At least they paid for my HP certification <Grin>

So, for now, I have no job, BUT I am going to apply to the places where the customers liked me. At least my ex-boss said that she wouldn't say anything bad about me if someone calls for a referance.

QUESTION: Do you think it is wrong of me to try and take their customers from them?

<>END RANT!<>

On a cool note: One of the places I had to go was AM General. Those military buffs in the room know what they make. For the rest of you, I'll tell you. They make HUMMERS! It is SO cool walking in that place and seeing a HUMMER being built! And to walk in the place and see all the different versions of the HUMMER (A REALLY cool fire engine HUMMER!) was SO cool! (Ok� so I like military equiptment)

Winterwolf: <Do you read the last posts that you missed before the room reset?>
Usually.
<You like to tease us don't you?>
Definitely :)
<Are we going to vote on the new pictures for the CR?>
Eventually. Just waiting for the TGS staff to write back with their ok.
<Once it starts growing you might have to feed it with your blood if you aren't careful. :)>
Aww� but I don't want to change my name to Semore!

GSIDE: I noticed you didn't play the Marines MP3 on Memorial day. I just thought you didn't have any more space and were going to play it with the next update.
<This oddness brought to you by Chia-Genius>
Chia-Genius! The gray matter that grows! Available at Wallgreens, CVS, and Crazy Anton's Splice Center!

Demona VS Sata: I say Sata. I think she will take Demona's head, then say "There can be only one!" and take that immortals power

Demona VS Sata in cooking: Hmm� Sata, only because Scottish food isn't too good (Haggis)

Demona VS Sata in� um� marksman ship: Sata. Demona can't fire straight to save her life! <G>

Demona VS Sata in� OH! Picking a good mate: Sata (Come on Demmie. Goliath left you for someone of a different species and Thailog tried to kill you!)

Demona VS Sata in� <Fire Storm notices Demona storming through the CR, making a beeline towards him.> (Hmm� gotta pick one that she will win�) OK! Running a multinational corporation: Demona!
<Demona grabs FS by the neck and she pulls her arm back, ready to kill FS with a single blow>
"Demona� you are in control of a giant corporation. You don't have time for the rest of that stuff!" Demona pulls FS out of the CR. The sounds of someone getting quite thrashed comes from outside of the CR. Suddenly, Demona's scream pierces the CR. After a moment, FS walks back into the CR, scraped and dripping green blood. When the drops of blood hit the floor, they sizzle and bubble, burning holes in the floor. Fire Storm just grins and continues his post>

Wilek: <Soon, they will know the power of our pork pies, and then we will rule the multiverse!>
Yes! Pork pies marble silver fork!
<You can have the sticky bit near Ontario>
Sticky bit near Ontario? But I want the chewy parts near Buffalo!
<NOODLE FISH!!!>
VIVA LA NOODLE FISH!
Now remember: Roman cartwheels bring crunchy towers of Piza. Remember that and you will go far, grasshopper.

DPH: <Is the room this week slow or what?>
Yeah� It is quite slow. But that is to be expected. It IS Finals and graduation for many of our High School seniors.

Congratulations go out to Puppy Girl for finishing her Senior year! She graduated yesterday! And now she has a job that she can go back to when ever she wants! (*I* want her luck!)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:22:22 AM
IP: t3-78.visitus.net

**RP RELATED**
No BFTS RP from me today. I have to let Winterwolf and Rodlox catch up. Besides, if I am not carefull, DPH and Plastique will eliminate their enemies. Rodlox, when you get the chance, I would like you to post some more BFTS RP.

If anyone has been noticing, I keep flipping links on the URL section.
**END RP RELATED**

Is the room this week slow or what? Let's see what I can do about that.

The idiot is the same person I have ranted about before. My knees feel only stiff today. :-) I can tolerate that. Hmm. I can not hardly believe I have no spam to one email address listed on the 'net.

I caught one episode of ReBoot Season 3 yesterday. Why in heck wasn't aired in the United States? (Rheoritical question)

Do the shows 'Pretender' or 'Profiler' have a snowball's chance in Hawaii of returning?
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:05:32 AM
IP: max1-39.cwy.cei.net

A slow week, indeed.

Aaron:> <> In such a situation I would probably lead the chorus of "Oh Sata / oh ye ye / faccela ved� / faccela tocc�" coming from the southern tribune...;)

Doug:> I'm going through Nots2, but I think I'll not finish it before leaving, so I have printed it out, to take it with me and read it as I have the chance.

Niamhgold:> I think I'll check my email and the CR last time Tuesday at about 23.00 (17.00 east USA). I'll leave Wednesday at 05.00, but I think I'll have no time to make a check at that time.

Later.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, June 16, 2000 11:03:58 AM
IP: ppp-182-21.20-151.libero.it

**Mandi comes in, looking depressed but not as bad as she'd expected to be**

CBS is run by assholes. Yesterday, they told Paramount there was no way "Now and Again" would be returning no matter what Paramount, Picturemaker, or the fans did. Since Paramount has exhausted all other options (smaller networks and cable nets can't afford the show), the "Now and Again" sets are being struck. There's no chance of new episodes of the series being aired.

I'm not as broken up over this as I'd expected to be; I'm fairly pissed off, but it's not as bad as I thought. If anyone here was a fan of the show and wants to send a message to the cast and crew, all such messages can be sent to naafans@yahoo.com - they'll be printed and sent through the appropriate channels.

That's all. I might be back later when I've showered, eaten, and am in a better mood. :)
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 09:49:22 AM
IP: pm33-80-169.iximd.com

Rodlox>>> It's called a "spur." If it's on the foot, it's a "heel spur." Similarly, gargoyles also have "wing spurs" and "knee spurs."
Spike
Friday, June 16, 2000 09:39:28 AM
IP: ppp19-19.ght.iadfw.net

Robby: sorry...turned out to be the Chupacabra...<<This one was similar to the Jersey Devil, in that it walked on two hind legs and resembled to some degree a velociraptor.>>

again, apologies.

::mental image shifts to a poodle-sized chupacabra nipping at Demona's lower-ankle::

which brings up a question FOR EVERYONE: that elevated bone in gargoyle legs, between their toes and their calves/thighs...what's that called? {because i think part of their foot is also on the ground with their toes, isn't it?}.

Rodlox
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:26:38 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Well, I'm heading up to New Hampshire (Concord) for a cousin's graduation (better get into that grenier frame of mind, ayuh) early tomorrow, but I will return lateish Saturday, so the mp3 shouldn't be too late (and it will confirm what you may have thought regarding me). I probably won't be able to read the new Timedancer until I get back. 42 pages is a bit much to print out.

Winterwolf> multicolored: Yes, I have a set of five and a set of six that I step through every other day. I base the progression from a daily rotation I have in real life, which is wy I complained about the lack a tan a little while ago. Oh, and I do prefer the title Many-Colored. Maybe I should adopt as my full title: Gside the Many-Colored, High Bandwidth CR DJ...
Challenge: Cut down a tree with a herring? It can't be done.

Mr. Toman> <<What's this book, 'To Serve Man'?>>: That Twilight Zone was on recently, did you catch it?

Cyborg> <<beurocrats kicked me out of my degree program for being a cripple>>: That just seems so wrong. Physical imperfections should not affect academic performance.
And many more well wishes for your father.

Ordell> <<The character on Angel your think of is named Charles Gunn>>: Who can't hold a candle to Mancini's Peter Gunn.

I really should read the TD spoilers before I read the story Daniel Johnson> **SPOILERS**<<The Jersey Devil?>>: It is marginally rare to recognize him outside Jersey. Though from research a little while ago, I believe he is from an as yet undiscovered (furred) gargoyle clan in the Pine Barrens, and his name is Damien Scott Leeds (if you feel like checking the archive, I have used that name before).**/SPOILERS**

SOROW> Take it easy. May you not black out again for a good long time.

Brooklyn> <<a spot here that has other fanfic>>: fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org

Robby> <<what Puck uses to close "Midsummer's Night Dream>>: One of the three poetic bits I recite every now and again (the other two are the Ring poem (Three rings for Elven kings under the sky) and The Jabberwock (CLD rocks my world)). And it goes on: "And this weak and idle theme/No more yielding but a dream./Gentles, do not reprehend,/For if you pardon, we will mend./And, as I am an honest [yeah, right] Puck,/If we have unearned luck,/Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,/We will make amends ere long./Else the Puck a liar call./And so, goodnight unto you all./Give me your hands if we be friends,/And Robin shall restore amends."

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:14:11 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Gasper- Um... Four showed up at the end of my RP and said "A fine display of dust, if such was your intent. Now, who is up first?" Looking back at it, I suppose I should have attributed the quote better...

Rodlox- I never said it looked like a velociraptor did I? As its written, it says "Similar to some dinosaurs" and even then, thats only one or two traits...

Robby
Friday, June 16, 2000 02:09:06 AM
IP: spider-wj024.proxy.aol.com

Robby: Jersey Devil aka Velociraptor? i'm sure that you already know this {but i'll say it for the rest of them}, that the velociraptor is the size of a _toy_poodle_.

the critters in _Jurassic Park_ were technically Utahraptors.

::mental image of a velociraptor-sized Jersey Devil jumping and nipping on Bonaparte(sp?)'s ankle::

Robby: <<-The Demona scene- Did you notice in the course of their conversation they brought up the incident Brooklyn had with a "rookery egg" when he was younger? Guess what Dark Ages story I had just helped write at that point.>>

i have - no clue, sir.

Rodlox
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:35:19 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

****THe TEN SAGA*********BEGIN***********

Looked at the dust, and scanned for any power levels. Finding that only the levels of those who were in the area were represented, he looked up at DragonWarrior.

"That's IT!?! I did all that training for nothing?"
[I must say that I am impressed as well, but I'm sure there will be more. You will have to show me where you trained, because your readings are much higher then before.]

"Sure, but was that it?" Looking over to Jim and the newcomer. "Sevarius Jr? I've read some of your journals, but I've heard of your Dad. Nailed some of his clones at Toronto a few months ago. Names' Gasper, hope ya got your demon's rabies shots."
*******END RP************

Not much to say on my end. Hopefully that isn't the end of Four though. If it is, I want Five to take on....that'd be fun.

Ruby Eyes----The illustrations were very well done, and the choice Brooklyn made was good. Very impressive. That episode of Reboot was a cool one too. Loved it.

That's all on my end.

Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:05:15 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Bronx- "If we shadows have offended, think but this and all is mended. That you have but slumbered here, as these visions did appear."

Its what Puck uses to close "Midsummer's Night Dream. I had to play Puck. Incidentally, that quote ended up in Ruby Eyes. Neat coincidink, eh?
Robby
Friday, June 16, 2000 01:00:57 AM
IP: spider-wm021.proxy.aol.com

*** a paper airplane fly in through an open window. It floats down to the floor and opens up. Inside is written a short note***

::::Greetings Everyone.
Since ArchWolf was so kind as to check up on me recently, I thought I'd drop a few quick lines to say hello. RL has being jerking me around left and right, and then some. But I'm hanging in there and not letting the stinky stuff get me down. I do miss everyone here, and hopefully one of these days I'll have time to sit down and start posting again. Big hugs to everyone, and enjoy G2K. Wish I were going to be there, but at least I'll be working as a volunteer at San Diego ComicCon this year. Small compensation, but at least it's something.
~~huggles~~ --Katara::::
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Friday, June 16, 2000 12:59:51 AM
IP: aca12ea5.ipt.aol.com

Question.. does anyone know the whole line of this shakespeare quote? (? or is it by someone else)
"If we shadows have offended"...
I think it's from "A midsummer's night dream" And I cant seem to find it anywhere.. heh driving me a little nuts too.
Well.. thanks to anyone who can answer for me!
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 12:30:56 AM
IP: spider-wg084.proxy.aol.com

The sun has just set. Brooklyn immediately jumps off of his perch. Glides on a cool downdraft to the CR. Misses talking to Janine:(

<Janine>
Hope you're having a good time!:)
<Winterwolf>
Quick things
1) How is the main page coming?
2) My fic illustration is still in the works. I'll send you that before you put up the fic.
3) You mentioned a spot here that has other fanfic "shruggs"
I can't find it.
<Rodlox>
I'm working on the gargoyle relations fic.

that's about it.
see you all later.:):):)
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 12:25:19 AM
IP: usr182.cqc.com

Niamhgold > it'd have to be coincidence; I was too lazy to go back and look at those episodes before working out the descriptions for my versions of the Avalon Clan! I'll have to check that out!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, June 16, 2000 12:22:59 AM
IP: 15-123.009.popsite.net

**TIMEDANCER STUFF**

Wow, thanks to everybody who's said positive things about Ruby Eyes. I can't take 100% of the credit, JEB helped with the initial research, and Beth fixed up a couple of scenes in the editing, but for the most part, this story has been my baby for about a year. Its the first story I ever really did serious research, and all in all, I'm pretty pleased with the final result. (I had meant to do more pics, but you know, the procrastination demon does get in the way...) And there's actually a few elements you can see from my life at the time of the writing...

-Comedy of Errors- In theater last year, while I was playing Puck in Midsummer's Night Dream, the other theater class with the same teacher was doing Comedy of Errors (and the other was doing MacBeth, oooh...) which is basically what inspired me to stick that in there. ANd yes, Brooklyn was involved with the actual ORIGINAL story that Shakspeare later wrote about. What happened is a story for another day...

-The dream sequence- At about that time, I was REALLY into Xena, particularly the musical episode called "The Bitter Suite." Add to that the fact that the third season of ReBoot finally aired here and had a wierd psychological episode called "Number One" and well... I wanted to do a musical number in Timedancer but couldn't figure out when it would ever fit. I found a place for it. 8)

-The Demona scene- Did you notice in the course of their conversation they brought up the incident Brooklyn had with a "rookery egg" when he was younger? Guess what Dark Ages story I had just helped write at that point.

-Vinnie- I actually snuck him in there not once, but twice! Nothing to explain about that one, I like Vinnie. On the other hand, notice his luck seemed to change after he saved Goliath from Castaway? Hmm?

As far as the remaining questions... I'm not going to answer all of them since part of the fun in a story is figuring it out for yourself. But...

Why is the time and place unknown- Because most of the scenes come from documented legends, but SOME of them don't have a real considerate time frame, and one or two actual still have regular sightings so I didn't want to dispute anything.

Were all the legends real- Yes, and I refered to them all by legendary name at least once. And yes, each of the legends is reputed to have red glowing eyes and a loud shrill scream. (Except the alligators in the sewers, but...) And yes, there is a legendary creature named "Big Bird" that supposedly makes you dream. The biggest problem created was that the Jersey Devil has about 16 different origin stories behind it, so I had to pick and choose elements. This probably hurt the backstory with Leeds a good deal, but when stories range from "Leeds summoned the JD, Leeds WAS the JD, JD was Leed's son and born that way, Leeds slept with the devil, Leeds killed 20 men and her son turned into the JD, Leeds wasn't even involed with JD, JD was her husband... and more, well...

Doug- Try reading the story over again. Once you understand whats going on, the entire thing makes a lot more sense.

Is the creature still alive- This one I won't answer. Brooklyn doesn't know what happened to the creatures. Did they die because the merger failed? Did they turn into magic dust and return to whence they came after being successful? Did they become one creature and go about protecting the nearby area? Did they absorb into Brooklyn's body without him or anyone else knowing about it? For the time being, I don't know myself.

On the otherhand, there WAS a jersey Devil sighting in 99... There's also been a Chupacabra sighting this year. Hmm...

**END TIMEDANCER STUFF**

Woah, talked about that quite a bit didn't I? Anyhoo, back to the RP which has been neglected all week...

**RP HERE- THE TEN SAGA**

Dragon Warrior stood, his super attack having been used. At about that time, Sevarius and all the demons teleported onto the scene.
"Well, looks like you missed all the action," Jim comments nochalantly as the dust starts to clear and blow away.
Kari is in shock. You mean, after all that buildup and worry, one shot from that guy over there took 4 out! That's kinda..."
Kari is interupted by a different female voice. "A fine display of dust, if such was your intent. Now, who's up first?"

**END RP!**

(And tommarrow I'll have proper replies and stuff...)

Robby
Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:48:23 PM
IP: spider-wm063.proxy.aol.com

*enters*

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, free at last!!! School is out for the summer!!!!!!!!!! WHOOHOO!!!!!!!! *does a little happy dance*

OK, now that I have that out of my system...

Sorry I haven't posted in a long while, had finals and stuff like that. But since it's now summer vacation for me, I'll be able to post much more frequently. ^_^ Also, sorry I wasn't able to read the posts anyone wrote to my last few ones, same reasons that I've just stated.
Damn, this whole year has gone by so fast, and now I'm (finally) a senior. (Yes, I know, I need to shut up with my senioritis and everything. But hey, one more year and I'm free, so to speak.) I'm just glad that I survived all those years of grammer school and junior high school to get here. I remember when I was younger, and I thought how cool the seniors in high school were. It's the whole Little-Skirt-Looking-at-the-Big-Cool-Kids Syndrome. It hits us every time when we're young. :P I'm really hoping to have a fun summer though. Interesting enough, my sister's boyfriend would like to include me in some of the fun stuff they do (No, nothing illegal! :P). None of the people my sister was either friends with or...well just friends with wanted me around. Chris (that's my sister's BF's name) is a pretty cool guy. He's just made a few bad mistakes, but he's trying to fix them. I almost never get to do anything social with people, I just do stuff by myself because I feel uncomfortable asking people to do stuff with me, and I guess people forget to ask me to go out and do stuff with them.
Man, I got so much reading to catch up on. Even have to catch up on TGS. X.x
Well, gotta go now. Later all!

*walks out*

P.S. Bahemut and I are still together and very happy. :)))) Can't wait for him to come to my graduation!!!! ^_^
Mary Flanders
Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:47:53 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Hello, rookery sibs. Guess what I did today?! I blacked out in practice. Whee! Your vision goes black, your face goes cold and numb, and you slowly lose hearing all in about 30 seconds. Very scary, but anyway.

Daniel Johson> It's quite alright my friend. My address is under my dad's name and I'm trying to get my own as soon as practice is over this week. Write me!
SOROW - [jim.abadie@prodigy.net]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:28:45 PM
IP: dll2a020-0734.splitrock.net

** Niamhgold enters, thoroughly pooped out **

Phew. At my second job today, we had our district manager come in to inspect the place...and I gotta tell you, before she showed up, I was using Windex^C to clean off our *sign holders * But our store got an A (minus a few points for some dust) and therefore all employees get a bonus :)

** Niamhgold plops down in Hudson's big chair **

On to replies:

Daniel Johnsom: Mmm...Lemon cream cheese bars. Sounds delish! I'll try anything once! (Like cold pizza and veggie dip...now _that_ was something that stuck with me! Especially popcorn in yogurt :})

Doug: Thank you very much! I don't care if it's belated; I'm a very belated person myself :) ** Reads some more of his post ** Cool--you're about the only one, other than myself, who thinks Robyn would beat Fox in a match :)

Christine: Can't wait for Coalition :) I think I've chosen Tourmaline as my favorite. (Quickie question...is she the same gargoyle that had a cameo appearance in "Avalon, part 3," standing behind Arthur when they were making their plans in the Main Hall? I just happened to have a screen shot of her, and she looks a lot like how you described Tourmaline. I thought it would be one heck of a coincidence! :))

Caliope: Don't worry, you didn't miss cake! I've got some right here...and if you missed Flag cake, I'm about to detonate my Execution cake, courtesy of Coyote the Bando :) ** Huge, atomic explosion rocks the CR ** See? And it's chocolate/vanilla marble cake!

DPH: Hope your knees feel better! As for the "idiot" you live with, I suggest handing him/her a vacuum cleaner and giving them Cliff's Notes on how to turn a switch ;)

Robby/TD story (No spoilers...I'm not that mean!) : EXCELLENT STORY!!!! Man, it was an orchestration worthy of Mozart...all points were covered, and the dream sequence was awesome! 5 out of 5 stars!

Winterwolf: I like badmitton; I can't say I'm too good at it ;)
Let's see--between Owen and Vogel, I'd say Vogel would beat 'im. Puck would just get too stuffed inside Preston to act so stiff all the time!
Puck vs Coyote in a "Magic, the Gathering." Now _that's_ a hard one! I'm more willing to say that they'd never finish, since they'd get bored and change their cards into magical little thingies :) (You can tell I'm getting tired here ;)) Sorry!

Shadowrider: Just so I know...when's the last time you figure you'll be checking your E-mail before you leave?

That's all for now...

** Niamhgold hits the recline button on the comfy chair, it goes berserk, and ends up ejecting her out of the CR **

Aaadiioss!
Niamhgold - [" " @hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:11:23 PM
IP: lac-flex122.ncia.net

Aaron::

No, babydoll, unhappily I did not get the pic you sent, I did however get a little dot-to-dot shape of what should have been that pic.

Dumb hotmail.

Anyhow, sorry to get you so late, but I think we should drop the Chibi drama... it's been too long a while I think... ::dryly:: unless there's a large resurgence of "NO!"s in the CR...

::crickets::

Hmmm... saddening.

Oh well everyone pray I get get to a scanner tomorrow!
A...Shinigami!!
Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:43:54 PM
IP: spider-tp041.proxy.aol.com

**RP WARNING**

In the Avatar of Ganon's control room, Mephisto is staring in shock at several monitors showing demons being obliterated. "I'm losing!" he roars. "I'm losing everything! My escape has failed! They're going to kill me!" He glares at Guod. "Can't you do anything worthwhile by tapping those keys?" "I can do this," Guod replies, pressing a button. Instantly a force-cage comes down around the surprised Mephisto and holds him prisoner. His rants are muffled by the cage's surface as he pounds at its sides. "That should occupy you until my plan is complete," Guod chuckles, then goes back to tapping in commands and watching one of the monitors. "Ah, excellent," he smiles as he watches a ship touching down in a hangar bay. "My guests have arrived. Now all is in readiness. All I have to do is set the trap." He grins evilly and then resumes the entering of commands into the Avatar's mainframe.

The screen switches to the Avatar hangar bay, where the ship that brought Wilek, Miriam, and most of the Ravens has just touched down. "Alright, we're splitting up," Wilek says to everyone as they get out. "Miriam, you take half the Ravens and these dragons Bardic sent to help us, find Commander Khesaat and link up with him and his troops. Help them free the station. Meanwhile, I'll take the other half and head for the control room to see how damaged the station is." "Doug and I better come with you," Kit tells Wilek. "Mephisto is probably in the control room too, so we'll need Lathrop and Orion's magic there to help us confront him. Tom, you, Keith, and Anthony are with us too." "Happy to be along," Anthony says. "Understood," Keith nods. "Ditto," Tom agrees. "Just hope this isn't too difficult." "It shouldn't be," Kit assures him, then looks at Tricia. "You, Jammer, Boris, Elena, and Stephanie go with Miriam and these dragons. You're in charge if anything happens to Miriam." "And nothing should," Miriam adds, Kit nodding to show that she knows. "Okay," Tricia replies. "See you once this is over." "Yeah," Jammer agrees. "You guys be careful, okay?" "Watch out for demons," advises Stephanie. The group nods that they will, and then Miriam and all those going with her go running off. The others watch them go and then Wilek says, "The control room's this way. Come on, let's get there." He gestures at the group to follow him and they go running down a hall. "By the way," Doug says as they hurry along, "I've forgotten how to fight demons. Do they have any weaknesses?" "Your weapon will work fine on them, don't worry," Orion assures him. "I blessed it on the way." "That's good," Doug says. "Yeah, it is," Tom nods. "Just hope we meet some demons soon. I'm a little eager for blood." "Don't get too eager," Kit says. "If possible we want to avoid conflict so we can save our strength for Mephisto." "Amen," Lathrop agrees, and Doug nods as they stop at a large door which Wilek tries to unlock with a keycard. "This hall will take us to a stairway, which goes to another hall, which goes to the control room," he explains, frowning as his card fails to get the door open. "Station hitting the asteroid must have caused a security short. We may have to break it down." "No problem," Keith replies, taking out a satchel of C4 and a radio detonator. "Give me a couple minutes and�" "Surprise, Ravens!" a mocking voice shouts out. Instantly they all look up at a screen on the wall which displays Guod's head, and everyone but Anthony simultaneously gasps. "Is that Mephisto?" he asks, confused, and getting a growl and shake of the head in reply from Kit. "Whoever this guy is, he's got my face," Doug grimaces. "Who�" "You don't remember me, Doug?" Guod gasps. "I'm shocked." "That guy is Guod," Keith tells Doug. "Your evil clone. It's a long story." "What in the name of God are you doing here, Guod?" Orion is meanwhile asking. "I had thought we destroyed you!" "Yeah," adds Wilek. "Shouldn't you be a smoking crater now, like your World Devastator?" "I distinctly remember destroying your body, and your entire Collective!" Kit growls. "You shouldn't be alive!" "Oh yes, I should," Guod grins. "You destroyed every part of me but my head, and now that's all that's left. I hate you for it, immensely." "So let me guess," Tom challenges. "You somehow got out of the Devastator before it exploded." Guod nods. "If you must know, it was a teleport module, a failsafe device I had set up in case my plan to assimilate Earth failed. I am smart as Doug, you know." He grins, seeing the seething look on his twin's face. "You remember me now, I see." "Yeah," Doug snarls. "Or at least I'm getting small tidbits." "I remember you," Kit snaps. "And I get how you're alive. But what are you doing on the Avatar?" "You can't be assimilating it," Wilek fumes. "The Administrator put in devices to prevent that after the last time you tried." "Oh, I'm not planning to assimilate the station," Guod chuckles. "I can't assimilate anything anymore, you destroyed my capability for that." "Then what are you planning?" Lathrop asks. "Come to the control room and find out," Guod replies, opening the door that previously barred their passage. "I look forward to our reunion. Oh, by the way, if you want to know how I got on board, I teleported onto this station when you destroyed my Devastator. Been in hiding ever since, planning to achieve my ultimate desire and my revenge. It was difficult staying under your Administrator's radar, but with all the demon attacks as a distraction, things were made much easier. Once things were in appropriate position, I made my move." "We don't care, okay?" Kit cuts him off, not noticing Doug's grimace. "We're going to find you, and kill you. Permanently this time." Guod laughs. "As I said, come to the control room. There you can try. If you make it in five minutes, you might stop me. If not�" The screen clicks off. "What could he be planning?" Doug frowns at its blankness. "Let's go find out," Keith says. "We can't waste time speculating. Wilek, can you show us the quickest way to the control room?" He nods. "Just follow my lead." He then runs down the hall with the Ravens and a shrugging Anthony (to whom Tom quickly explains everything about Guod) hurrying along behind.

**THAT'S THE END OF THIS RP**

Hey everyone. Having a good week so far? Hope so. Mine has been going okay. Lots of school stuff giving me a headache, and I'm still ten scenes away from finishing Night of the Symbiotes 3, but things are pretty much alright. I'll get it all done sooner or later. :) At least tomorrow should be relaxing, what with Shaft and Titan AE coming out and Kit and me going to see them. If they're as good as I've heard they are�:) Oh well, on with the post.

Niamhgold: A very happy birthday to you, sorry if this is belated. Hope you had a very good one, if you didn't I hope next year's will be good enough to make up. <grin>

Shadowrider: Glad your birthday went well. I too hope you finish NotS 2 soon, but whenever you can is fine. Looking forward to your feedback.

Wilek: Thanks for explaining your interest in Blair Witch, I now think your Timedancer crossover story idea could be a bit more interesting. Almost divorcing it from the awful film completely is surely a good idea. Good luck with the story, I'll probably read it when you get it out. :)

Jannie: Great chicken jokes! LOL!! Same things I say to Calliope also apply to you, good luck with your work at camp. :) And I hope the surgery goes well too. Let us know how it turns out, okay? <fingers crossed>

SOROW: Congrats on the good weekend experience and getting over your depression. Like Kit, I hope it stays gone for a long time to come. :) Let us know if it doesn't, we'll do our best to help you out. <comforting grin>

Caliope: Glad you're having a good experience as a camp counselor. Hope you use your power well, and don't abuse it (I had bad experiences in my youth with counselors who did otherwise and kids who took advantage of it. Not very fun). Good luck with the job, too. :)

Aaron: Yeah, there's always next year. :) Hope to catch you then at A-Kon. And everyone else Kit and I didn't catch this year too.

Xanatos vs. Dracon: Xanatos. There's just no good case for it being otherwise. (Dracon isn't really the type to think of things like besmirching someone's reputation, he'd go for the kill, and knowing Xanatos, probably fail. :) Also, hiring assassins, arsonists, etc, well, the ones Dracon could hire would probably all get eliminated by Xanatos since as far as we know Dracon doesn't really have the money for international pros. Jadriel from my fanfic or someone like the Kingpin might, but not someone as low-level as Dracon. Besides, Dracon isn't the type to send in pros as a first strike, he'd send his hoods. Then Xanatos would beat them, connect them to Dracon, call Elisa, and take Dracon down with her help before he could make any other attempts. Xanatos knows when to take the initiave. The reasons Gasper mentioned apply as well.)

Mecord: $ Thanks for the Lloky e-mail, that detail about her past was interesting. :) One question- how vulnerable are dragons in your ficverse? Like, say one of them was shot, would it make them become incapacitated? And how fast do they heal? (Yes, Kit and I might be planning for this to happen to Lloky, unless you say otherwise. Don't worry, she isn't going to die. Just gotta take her out of the fight with Flanagan, so he seems a challenge. If you don't approve, just let Kit and me know.) $

Airwalker: <The story was good; the plot just feels like it needed a little more added to it, that's all> That I agree with. :) Like I said, hope they remedy things soon (too bad they haven't completely done it yet, more on that below). Have a good time in Israel, and may you return safely and soon.

SJ: Thanks for letting me know Smoke and Mirrors was up. I sent Pistoff and Denis feedback, and as they know, I liked the story very much. Even if the end scene was one heck of a surprise. (If you've read it, you know what I'm talking about. :)

Fox vs. Robyn: I say Robyn. She seemed hardier than Fox back on the show. Yeah, I know that's saying a lot, but it's true. Now if Fox brought magic into things, she could get the upper hand, but as we know, that's a big if. :(

Thailog vs. Proteus: Thailog's smarter, Proteus is more versatile. Proteus, unless Thailog had time to set up a plan.

King Arthur and Griff vs. Jackal and Hyena: The Pack members are a hell of a lot stronger and have more heavy weaponry. I hate to say, if it was just Arthur and Griff against them, they'd probably win. :(

Weird Sisters vs. Tricksters: The Tricksters. They can do subtlety a lot better. Plus I like them more, so I'm biased. :)

Wolf vs. Fang: That would be one big fight. The winner depends on whether Fang can zap Wolf unconscious before Wolf pummels him to death. And with Wolf's strength and bestial rage, well, there's no assurance it will just take one zap to put him down.

King Arthur vs. Sata: Sata. She has the higher level of skill, and two swords for Arthur's one. Hope it would just be a sparring match.

Jenna: Good luck with the work problems, I too hate it when people cause trouble like you described. Hope the situation turns out favorable. <fingers crossed again>

Mandi: Good statements in that article. Hope they work, and that your computer problems end soon. :)

Christine: Glad that the proof for Dark of the Elvenwood looks so great. Good luck fixing the only thing in there that didn't. Looking forward to Dissidents: Coalition when it comes out, hope that's soon. :)

**ALERT- TIMEDANCER SPOILERS**

Robby: Seeing as it looks like you did all the work on the latest Timedancer episode, I'll direct my comments to you. You did a good job on Ruby Eyes, mostly. The plot was pretty good, not the best I've seen all season but close to it. The pictures were excellently drawn, well-colored, and well-placed. Brooklyn got some great character development too, more than he's had in quite a while, enjoyed his well-written, interesting, and bizarre fever dreams. Pretty much good writing overall, I liked the emotion-charged dialogue between the various characters a lot. Especially in the scene with Brooklyn and Demona, I didn't know she was a fever dream until the end (that she was really disappointed me, but I won't hold that against you. Just sad that we didn't get good developments on her too). Also good fear and mystery effects with the strange creatures, and nice job with including Vinnie, the Quarrymen, the French soldiers, and other characters who came back in this story. And I liked the opening Comedy of Errors bit (though I had to wonder if Brooklyn was seeing the actual story that inspired the play or just the play itself, would have been nice to know). In fact, except for one thing, the story was flat out great. That, since I have you wondering now, was the huge element of confusion in this story. Yeah, it was good to make the creatures mysterious up until the end, but the extent you did it to served to replace the mystery with too much strangeness and confusion. IMO anyway. Then there was the fact that we never really got an explanation for what should have been going on with those creatures, or their final fate. I didn't like that. It weakened any impact their story had somehow, and that wasn't good. That and the Demona fever dream, which felt thrown in to me instead of interesting once I discovered its fakeness, IMO ruined what was otherwise a great story. Therefore I'm sorry, but I'm not giving your story as high praise as other people have. Only 8/10, sideways thumb. Don't get me wrong, I did really enjoy the personal quandaries and development Brooklyn went through with the fever dreams and all. Liked the dialogue and pics too. The creatures and the confusion they created just screwed up the story in spite of everything else. If you had toned down their involvement a little, or increased it to where you showed us the scene that started off their story, gave us some idea of what their creator Leeds was like, and resolved their final fate, it would have been better IMO. But you didn't, and yeah, I know you had your reasons, and you did a pretty good job bringing it all together at the end even without all this, but still I have to slight you as a caring fan with the right and will to say what he thinks. :( Don't take it too hard, okay? You did write a very good story even with the confusing and undeveloped elements. Thanks for the entertainment, hope that next time your work improves.

**SPOILERS END**

Definitely eager for Brooklyn to get back with Sata after that story. May it happen very soon. :)

<sighs> Room's awful slow tonight, surprising. Oh well, this is all I needed to catch up on, so it's done. Kit and I will post our reviews of Shaft and Titan AE next post, she'll also make her comments on Ruby Eyes (don't worry, Robby, she liked it better than I did). Hope my weekend's good, and so is everyone else's in here. Will see you all again next post. Later!

**MORE RP, UPDATING OTHER THREADS**

The screen comes back on, this time displaying the security room in the Time-Warner Building. Shap and Pat Robertson are still dueling in the middle of it, each having taken several wounds but neither showing signs of slowing down. "You see, God boy?" Robertson laughs as he parries Shap's latest strike. "Most people may think your side is stronger, but it still can't triumph over mine! Especially when we use the bad things about your side to our advantage, as I've been doing so many years." "God's tolerance of that ends now," Shap growls back, lashing out with his foot and kicking Robertson in the groin. The evil fundamentalist screams, surprised by the pain and shock of the attack. Shap takes the opportunity to whack him upside the head with the pommel of his sword and cut his unholy mace in two with the blade. "No!" Robertson screams as Shap smashes the inverted cross he holds in his other hand, in a flare of energy destroying the source of Robertson's power. "Stop! God doesn't want you to do this! He wants you to forgive me!" Shap puts the point of his holy avenger against the man's throat and smiles as Robertson stares gasping at him. "Maybe," the paladin says. "But then you don't really speak for God, do you? Besides, only God can really give true forgiveness. That's why I'm delivering you into His hands. Hope He's lenient." Robertson gasps and then slumps into death as the sword penetrates his throat and brain. Shap pulls it out, watches the body collapse, then falls to his knees and prays for confession. From the doorway of the room, Shauna sees the gesture and shakes her head. "There'll be time for that later," she says, walking over and motioning him to stand up. "While you were fighting that guy I retrieved the rest of our gear from the lockers downstairs, and got the car parked down by the elevator. We gotta get out of here, now." "Why?" Shap asks. "Why don't we just go after Turner and the others? We can take them." "No," Shauna sighs. "You're in no shape for it, and you know it. Neither am I. We need the others. Come on, we have to escape before somebody comes down here to investigate all the noise they heard. I'm surprised no one already has." "You haven't seen how inattentive the people are in this building," Shap chuckles as he stands up, sheathing his sword and taking the shotgun she holds out to him. "Let's go, though, just in case, since you're probably right." "I'm always right," Shauna smiles, then looks into the hallway and nods. Shap waits for her gesture of safety and then together they run cautiously out of the room.

About three hours later, Ted Turner is standing in the room, pacing back and forth in front of the security guard that found the bodies Shap and Shauna left behind them. Finally he snaps his fingers and points at the door. "You're dismissed, we'll handle this internally. Go home." "Yes, sir," the guard nods and leaves. Turner sighs, then looks at Geoffrey Fieger, Steve Case, and Geraldine Laybourne. "This should have a negative impact on our plan, shouldn't it?" Laybourne nods. "Without Pat's political resources, achieving government deadlock may be more difficult. The loss of Simmons and Powter doesn't really matter, but without him�" "We're close to being screwed," says Case. "But we're not there yet. We can still pull this off. The Democrats who are part of our coalition have enough political power, I think. If worse comes to worse, we can always have Omar start a war in the Middle East. Since America's oil is more important to its government than its people�" "Enough," Turner cuts him off. "We'll need to put some more dirty politicians in our pockets. Shouldn't be too hard. We also need to inform Lord Gothmenes of this, keep him updated. And of course find out who did this and eliminate them before they cause any more problems." "That's gonna be difficult," sighs Fieger. "There aren't even any clues here." "Yes, there are," Turner smiles, sniffing the air. "Can't you smell it? Paladin stink." "And here," Laybourne adds, pointing to a broken fingernail on the floor. "That secretary who could have eavesdropped on our meeting. She had polish like that." "Still," Fieger frowns, "she or they could be anywhere now." "But we'll find them," Turner vows, his eyes flashing demonically. "You can bet we will." As Laybourne and Case ask how they're going to do it, the screen goes blank.

**END RP**
Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:41:07 PM
IP: pool-207-205-146-4.dlls.grid.net

I really hate life sometimes. AARRGGHH!!
Ok, I'm better now. Well, mostly. It feels as if I haven't been here for ages, and I doubt I'll have the time or energy to get caught up. :P Demona vs. Sata cooking contest?!? Where did that come from? No, don't tell me. Demona vs. Sata in combat maybe, but cooking? The progression of topics in this room is always...interesting.
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Niamhgold:
Before I forget, I hope you had a great birthday. I don't have any cake, but I could whip up a batch of my lemon cream cheese bars if you go in for that sort of thing.
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SOROW:
You sent me that nice email, and now I feel horribly guilty for not responding. :( RL hasn't been very kind lately, and your return address seemed odd somehow, so I was unsure whether I should reply to it. Sorry!

****** TGS SPOILERS ******
It's funny, but even though this story wasn't physically the longest of the season, it sure felt like it was. And I mean that in a good way. I like long stories. 300K is probably an ideal length for me, but then I am pretty wacky. Naturally, some of the recent episodes have been a bit short for my tastes, so this one was a pleasant surprise. It was also one of the weirdest episodes to date. I wonder about those dream sequences: how much was just Brooklyn's fevered imagination and how much was due to outside influences (like Loki)? Was it a dream, or a prophesy?

The way that Gargoyles and TGS incorporate various myths and legends is neat, but they were always myths and legends from places far from where I live. Until now. The Jersey Devil? I remember hearing about that when I as a kid! Cool! I didn't even know anyone outside of NJ had heard of it

Umm, I do have one further comment on this season of TD in general. I know that my opinion doesn't really matter, especially since the rest of the season has already been written, but I am definitely ready for Brooklyn to find Sata again. Brooklyn's angst in the last few episodes has been getting awfully thick for my tastes. Hopefully we'll be leaving the Brooklyn-feels-so-sorry-for-himself-for-leaving-Sata-behind show soon. That's just my opinion, of course, and without knowing what the rest of the season will bring I'll just have to wait and see. While the individual stories this season have been of very high quality, there is something missing from the overall picture and I think that Sata is a part of that. I don't know; it's hard to put my finger on it. Intangible. Oh, well.

Great pictures, BTW.
****** END SPOILERS ******

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, June 15, 2000 09:20:49 PM
IP: ppp-34.rb5.exit109.com

****TGS SPOILERS****

Ruby Eyes: A very strange episode, great but strange. The look into Brooklyn's mind was very interesting. The inclusion of these various legends was well done. The illustrations were excellent.

****END SPOILERS****
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, June 15, 2000 06:53:13 PM
IP: dial-215.ocis.net

Actually Lexington trumps all when he hacks into the National Command Authority, and inadvertantly causes a missile launch.
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 05:06:46 PM
IP: fltg3-ppp34.fltg.net

Hello all. Been a while. I've been indisposed for a while. Long story, won't go into it...

TD> I know for a fact that this is Robby's pride and joy, and is probably the best episode we've put out this season. Can't really comment on anything, just that, you know, it's a great story...

The Invisible Man> I think I've only seen a couple of comments about this in here since it aired. The premier of this show kicked so much ass, which really surpised me. If you think about it, The Invisible Man has been done to death, but this had a great approach and intigrated comedy elements into it, much like Farscape (though a bit more comedic)... I recommend to anyone to catch it tomorrow on SciFi...

Sata VS. King Authur> Um... I'd have to go with Authur. I mean, think about it, he's the Once and Future King. He can kick anyone's ass. I know that's about as plainly put as you can get...

Rodlox - The character on Angel your think of is named Charles Gunn. He's played by J. August Richards, and will be a regular on the show next year (YAY!)...

My friend got a job at a movie theater, and I got see previews of Shaft and Titan AE. Both are really, really good, especially Shaft, which surprised me. Sam Jackson is God.

All for now. As I leave you, let me leave these words of encouragement: "La-de-freakin-da" --Bruce Cambell.

Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Thursday, June 15, 2000 04:20:35 PM
IP: ppp-149.ode.cableone.net

Kyryn: Thanks for the helpfull information, but I managed on crosswinds.

Brooklyn and all: *Cyborg clears her throat for an anouncement*I have an e-mail account, after having taken apart three computers to find out information I did not even need. Now I can read that story, morning- glory.*She ends her anouncement, and as she steps down from the podium, there is much rejoicing.*
Brooklyn, If you would, please e- mail me a short message first, just to check that it IS actually working.
Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:56:42 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Aaron enters, spots DC, and procedes to choke him in a manner that would make Bobby Knight proud.

THIRTY SECONDS! How dare you start an hour-long power outage with thirty seconds left in the Pacers game you *$*$(*#$*!

Annnyway...

Today is James Belushi's b-day, so raise a glass to Fang. (Or Phil from Mighty Ducks)

Mec>If you think you can keep something running for two years, I say go for it. Hope it goes well.

Sata vs. King Arthur> Hmmmm, we're back to katana/broadsword combat again. Ask Toku and Gunjack.

Winterwolf> Owen vs. Vogel. Owen. But why not include Glasses too? He is, after all, the show's third quiet bespeckled, right hand man.

Kyryn> Glad to hear you got a clean bill of health.

Shadowrider> Actually, I haven't been to a beach in three years, and even then I was wearing jeans, boots, and a trenchcoat. (It was winter) But I did get the occasional request to see it at the Gathering. ;) I'm hoping to get another one on my shoulder, right after the NERV logo. <<the contest judges making the contenders parade to show all of their graces and then, when they have to give a response, saying: "Hm, we're still not sure...another passage, please!">> I expect Demona let's that go once or twice before beheading one of the judges. "Does anyone *else* want another look?!?" Of course, I'd be like "Yo! Me! Right here!"

Mara> With Amara mara here, and Amara mara there... BTW, did you get the pic I sent, I'm not sure it was formated right.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:48:59 PM
IP: ppp-199.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

*****TIMEDANCER SPOILERS*****

Wow. Simply put, wow. I caught the "Comedy of Errors" bit at the start of the story, I played Dromio number 2 in that one a few years bck. Nice touch, its a Shakespeare story that I figured you guys would never fit in. The dream sequences were great, especially the dialouge between Brooklyn and Demona. Now I understand why he hasn't gone off and appologized to her in modern day like he said he would in... Oh, the story where he meets the future Demona. But tricking us TWICE in a row... (First an imaginary Demona then an imaginary Payne...) And I think every one of those creatures was a real myth! I know for sure the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, and the Mothman... And I guess the last one was supposed to be an alligator in the sewers... Were the other two real legends as well? If so, its pretty neat how all the various unconected legends tied together in the end. Good job all in all. I liked the pics too, they looked like something from the actual show, but I wish there had been more.

Just two other questions... At the end... Did the creatures manage to come back together into one being, or did they die and disolve because something went wrong? I suppose the story left that part open ended on purpose...

Other question- Was that Vinnie who had the wining lottery ticket, and if it was how did he lose it before cashing it in?

But good stuff through and through. 4 stars, or 10 out of 10, or whatever rating you use. Good job.

*****END TIMEDANCER SPOILERS. AND POST. WOW, TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS FUN. MAKES YOU LOOK LOUD, BOLD AND IMPORTANT AND... AH, END THE POST ALREADY.*****
Joxter
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:47:51 PM
IP: spider-wm072.proxy.aol.com

somewhat-idle question here: how many people here know at least the bare-bones of Gargoyles, Angel, and Brimstone? {or just two out of three}.

what was the name of the guy who led the vampire-hunters in Angel?

thanks.

Rodlox
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:41:18 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

***Kyryn pops in****

Cyborg> You might want to try using a Yahoo mail account. I have one and set up my browser to be able to download my email from their server to my home machine. It was pretty easy to do.

Later!

**Kyryn sneaks out***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:09:15 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Brooklyn: **WARNING: E-MAIL RANT** The cablecompany, which has absolutly no buisness messing with e- mail in the first place, can't figure out how to set up their server properly, so that not even the revered and assended demi- god of computer programing Curly++ (what can I say? I worship my Father) can arrange for our home server to pick up our family's e-mail. To get around this, I was using an account at my College. But since those <blepping> beurocrats kicked me out of my degree program for being a cripple, I can't use their server anymore neither. So I am left without e-mail. (Hence why a couple of months ago I was posting an address, and why I'm not now.) I'm trying to figure out how to get an address with the crosswinds server, but with my Dad in the hospital, I have a snowball's chance on the fire- plains. I can put a computer together from scrap wire and plastic with a blindfold on, but don't ask me to program it- or to tell you it's stats. **END RANT** Once I manage to figure something out- I'll let you know immediatly. Sorry about ranting your ear off, but it is really frustrating.

DPH: Knee pain? Ouch. Try a tight bandage- brace around them to help support them. You may have rubbed the cartilage the wrong way if you put too much presure on them for too long.

Warpmind: Are you the newbie from Norway in the RGRN?
Cyborg
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Thursday, June 15, 2000 03:00:19 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

* Skips in*

Hellos! * ^_~ *

Niamhgold> Whah?! cake?! Where?!?!!? I missed the cake!!!! Its Ok, thanx anyways! :)

Winterwolf> LOL, not, thats not what I ment, i ment the coment you made about having to pay to play with kids. So far, thats what i've been doing tho, play with them and next week will be field trips every day, so it'll be fun. But this isnt like other camps aparently, there are less kids and more coucelers and you dont spend the night and its only 2 weeks long, so its diferent.

Gotta go! bye all! *HUGZ all and leaves*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 02:30:21 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

Spacebabie::Uranus's name: This is the list of what a lot of people thought her name would be:Alex,Erica,Corinn(on the doll box),Veruca... I was not expecting Amara.Now I wonder if Mara Cordova will refere to herself as Amara Cordorva???

I personally hoped they's use Alex, since it's an unisex name, but oh well.

Hmm.. to be Amara. or not to be Amara, that is the question.
A..... Shinigami
Thursday, June 15, 2000 02:25:17 PM
IP: spider-we043.proxy.aol.com

WHOOPS! I forgot to put the ***END SPOILER*** in my post!
Please, be merciful with me! (Please, please, please!)
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 01:25:51 PM
IP: h255-22-250.mi2.albacom.net

Greetings to everyone.

Aaron:> Seen it, thank you and Gside for the link. Quite impressive, indeed, although the picture didn't allow to see details. As you spoke of a tattoo, I imagined a small one on a shoulder or something like that, but your one is quite evident...I imagine that, as you are on a beach or something like that, there's plenty of people asking you about it...

Gyre:> <<...has anyone seen Elisa?>> LOL! Good one!

DPH:> Ouck! I hope your knees are better now.

Mecord:> Sata/Arthur: An interesting match. Let's see...Sata has a gargoyle strenght and speed, and her Katana and Wakazashi (Sp?) are faster weapons than Excalibur. Arthur, on the other side, usually wears an armor and has, again, Excalibur, that is for sure a very powerful weapon, whose power and intrinsec magic should balance the odds. Both of them are natural born warriors and have spent a lifetime in practicing and fighting, and both of them are cold-headed. They are both very correct, so there's no space for cheating...the odds are quite even, but I would bet on Sata, because I think that if she manages to kick Excalibur away from Arthur's hands, the match ends quickly, and also I think that in her years of Timedancing she was able to learn tactics and techniques that Arthur has never seen. (or maybe it is just my Pro-Sata attitude that shows itself again...;)

Niamhgold:> I'll wait eagerly your pic...anyway, take all the time you want, for I'll not be able to see it for a while...

CrzyDemona:> Good pic. I don't know the characters portrayed, but your pic is really beautiful.

SJ:> <Sata/Demona swimsuit contest> I have a vision...a vision of the contest judges making the contenders parade to show all of their graces and then, when they have to give a response, saying: "Hm, we're still not sure...another passage, please!"...for the joy of the (all-male) public present...;)

Winterwolf:> Yeah, 16 hours non-stop are a good investment, not to mention the 8 average daily hours of the previous days...but I begin to think I'm getting too old to do it often...I mean, as I was at HS, I could stand up all night for three days in a row, and feel still fresh...;)
Well, thank you for the congratulations, sincerely.
About "Epic Warhammer"...well, it is a table (Hm...better say "Floor") strategy game. Basically, you have your army, your opponent has another (but you can play in more than two if you like...), and you have to try to win. Epic Warhammer is a variation of the traditional Warhammer game, and the difference is in the dimensions: Epic has smaller miniatures and bigger battlefield, so you can develop more complex tactics. As usual in this kind of games, there's a lot (REALLY a lot) of different sides and units, with different abilities and specs. Well...it is the basic, I'm still a beginner in this game, so I still don't know all of its secrects, but I like it a lot.

***TD SPOILER***

Very very very good. Really. Intriguing, commoting, shocking...exceptional, I have to say. It made me sigh, thrill, growl eventually. The scene in which Brooklyn has the vision of having to choose between his Clan and Sata...well, I'll remember it forever...and the dialogue with the imaginary Demona too...
Now, the only thing that makes me afraid is that I'll have to wait I don't know exactly how much time to see the next episodes and the conclusion of the season...I only hope Sata will return soon. A question: am I wrong, or Brooklyn says that two years have passed since he had to abandon Sata?
10/10 and special mention for this episode.

Kyryn:> Glad to hear your health is getting better! I hope you'll have no more any problem.

Nothing more, later.

Ciao!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, June 15, 2000 01:23:30 PM
IP: h255-22-250.mi2.albacom.net

I don't Robby I think I'll go easy on you since you have such a good sense of humor.

***TD SPOILER/PERSONAL SAY SO STUFF***

One word, DAMN. (I mean it in a good sense) I'll have to give it to you Robby you took some thing that confused the living crap out of me and brought it all together. For a minute there I was just waiting for Brooklyn's arm to fall off after all the damage he went through. Bet he wouldn't have noticed either. One little thing that still seemed completely out of place would be Xanatos rhyming a story. A wee bit out of character even for a dream, but still cool.
One loose end I hpoe you tie up latter is what will happen being that one of the fragments, Mothman I think, is dead.

The pictures were good but the story stole the show.
Rating 11/10 or totally a$$ kicking.

***END***

What's this I see? people coparing cooking huh? What's really funny to me would be to see Sata and Demona battling over whose cooking is better and then all the sudden they're both out-done by Broadway. (evil thoughts come to mind)
Gotta go to work at two.
Later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Thursday, June 15, 2000 01:21:56 PM
IP: spider-tj053.proxy.aol.com

**TD SPOILERS**
So complex that I had to read it twice to understand it. There is some unmatched quotation marks in the around the spot where it says 'Brooklyn sighed'. Once again, another temporal paradox occurs. But what become of this creature? And why is the place and time unknown? I am still not sure if I got everything. This story tied up lose ends, but left a bigger end around. Whatever became of those creatures?
**END TD SPOILERS**

My darn knees are still bothering me. Living with an idiot does not help the situation. The idiot thinks I should be able to do housework when I do not feel like working due to knee pain. This reminds of what happened to my mom before she died.

Wow! Seven similiar names. I happenned to catch the Incredible Hulk on SciFi and I was reminded that, sometimes, the concept of a show lends itself to be animated as opposed to live action. I like the more modern animated version better. It has a better premise.

Sheesh, this seems like a slow week in the room. This room is moving s l o w l y but s u r e l y.

**RP RELATED**
Rodlox, you have until Friday night to wrap things up. Saturday morning I am going to end the battle or I might send the ending lines of the battle in email. Winterwolf and Rodlox, remember do not go to the north side of my house.
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
Plastique manages to leap over the flame and touches the suit the Speed Star is wearing. The Speed Star quickly retreats when the suit disappears.

DPH's mind quickly came to Jason Filler. "Whatever hurt my ears probably hurt Jason's." thought DPH. DPH healed Jason Filler's ears with lightning.

DPH quickly cured any headaches that Plastique and him had. "Let's try to take out one of the remaining 3 Speed Stars," said DPH.

"Ok. I just don't want to pull that stunt again," said Plastique.

DPH started rapid firing his gun and attacking with lightning. The three remaining Speed Stars put their back to one another and start firing.

"Hehehe. They do not stand a chance now." said DPH.

"I agree. You've taken out over 10 at a time. Just aim for the flame throwers." said Plastique.

"These guys are not fools. It's hard to get a lock on anyone of those flame throwers because they keep moving them around." said DPH. "But on the other hand, I could use target practice." DPH just rapid fired his gun in the vicinity of a flame thrower, but kept barely missing. Plastique just kept missing another flame thrower with her acid gun.

DPH glanced over and saw 3 motorcycles. He turned his gun to face those motorcycles. Within seconds, everyone of those motorcycles was out of commission.
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:59:14 PM
IP: max1-4.cwy.cei.net

*turns up the lurk button, holding up a huge victory cake*
Hey all! I'm offically done with my classes for the summer.. and so I thought I might celebrate with all my rookery sibs *sets it down with a knife* help yourself =)

Timdancer- I've not read it all the way yet, but it's great so far!

top 10 trek> LOL! The sad part about it tho is actually some of it is very true *sigh hoping that the DS9 movies wont go down that road*

Wellz, that's all for now! more later.

*skips out humming a happy tune*
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:30:39 PM
IP: spider-th041.proxy.aol.com

Brief post. Mabye a long one later.

Robby> Nicely done. (SFX - Applause)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:40:41 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

***Kyryn sneaks in****

Health news> Well, the good news is that my doctor said that the one major ovarian cyst had gone away and the others aren't anything to worry about.

****WARNING: FICBIT****

I came up with this odd ficbit while editing "Ruby Eyes." For any of you who ever listened to the "Art Bell" radio show:

The gate flashed, dropping Brooklyn momentarily into a small radio studio. A thin dark-haired man dropped his cigarette in surprise as he gaped at the apparition before him.

�Um, sorry for the inconvenience,� Brooklyn managed to say before the gate picked him up again and whisked him away.

The man adjusted his glasses and took a deep breath. �Well, that was a heck of a thing! I think that it�s time to go to the phones.� He reached over and flipped a switch. �West of the Rockies, you�re on the air!�

***END FICBIT***

If no one gets it, oh well. For anyone who does...enjoy.

Patrick> Demona's cooking. ROTFLMAO!

Jenna> Your big toe! Ow, ow, ow! I remember when I did something like that. Here, have a cybercookie and hugs.

Sevarius, Jr.> Computer dying. I can sympathize, having fried a motherboard last year. If it's the power source, you might want to see if you can get a new case. They don't cost too much. If it's the motherboard, you might want to check for some used ones. Some of the original pentium boards don't cost too much. I wish you luck.

Fried Equipment> Well, our TV decided to die last night (it was 11 years old), so today Okami and I are off to look for a new one -- nothing fancy or too big.

Later All!

***Kyryn pulls out a small box and pushes the button. She frowns when nothing happens, shrugs, and walks out the door***

Anonymous
Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:09:05 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Crzy > Yanno, one day I'm just gonna have to dye my hair red so that _I_ become irresistable to you, too. :P

Star Trek Top 15 > LOL. The scary part is it's hard to figure out which of those are just made up and which may be true. :: pictures the Voyager writers having an emergency meeting... "how did our secrets get out???" ::

Anyone else see Shatner's little appearance Leno the other night? When is someone gonna smack that guy and tell him he can't sing? Even Drew Carey has a better sense of key and rhythm than Bill Shatner.

Cooking with Demona, > Hmm... "The Immortal Gourmet"? :P Yeah, I can just picture Angela visiting and going through the cookbooks in the kitchen...

Angela (confused): "What's this book, 'To Serve Man'? I thought you didn't like humans, mother?"

Demona (snatching the book away before Angela can look inside): "Never you mind, my dear. Now hand me that bottle of chianti and help me with these fava beans..."

Hmm... maybe that's just too evil.

And an announcement: We've hit the midpoint of the 100 day countdown to G2K... just 50 days remain until The Gathering 2000. The deadline for filk submission is TODAY. The deadline for pre-registration is only 15 short days away. Pre-registration is $40, but after June 30th, the at-the-door rate of $55 will apply, so get your registrations in ASAP!
Patrick Toman - [PatrickAT@aol.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 06:59:05 AM
IP: ac9a1330.ipt.aol.com

Brooklyn glides into the CR. Everyone is so busy talking that they never even notice his heavy footfall. He looks around. He finds some familiar faces. He immediately get ready to stay a little bit. Capes his wings. Sits in an old easy chair next to Emambu. They share a box of brownies.:)

Hello:)
Quick posts.
<Winterwolf>
Let me know how the page is doing?
<Rodlox>
Thank you for the help. I appreciated it.I'll get to work on the Gargoyles relations thing tomorrow. C-ya later.
<Janine>
Hope you're having a great time!:D
Kinda miss talking to you though!!:(
<Emambu>
How are you tonight sir? Here pull up an easy chair. This time I brought the brownies:)
<Cyborg>
What's your email? I'd like to send you a copy of the 1st episode.

Which reminds me I have to plugs.
<My SHAMELESS PLUG>
I'll be posting the episode next week.
<Yet another plug>
Rodlox has written a fic on the Battle between Demona and Sata!!!:)) So check it out! I luved it!!! It's at the fan archive.

Well that's about it. I have to go. It is not long until sunrise. C-ya tonight!!!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 15, 2000 02:50:50 AM
IP: usr181.cqc.com

Yay, my story is finally up! I've been waiting almost a year for this one to air! Wait, why are you reading this ramble of mine, go read the story!
Robby
WHY are you reading what city I'm from? That's time you could be spending reading the story!
Thursday, June 15, 2000 02:40:36 AM
IP: spider-tm062.proxy.aol.com

...
b
Thursday, June 15, 2000 02:38:27 AM
IP: usr181.cqc.com

***Kyryn steps into the CR***

Gentlebeings,

We now present for your reading pleasure:

Ruby Eyes

Story and Artwork by Robby Bevard

Alone in the darkness...

***Kyryn steps aside to avoid being trampled by the rush***
Kyryn - [<<--clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Thursday, June 15, 2000 01:57:42 AM
IP: denm2-43.iglobal.net

real-quick...

question: Demona vs Oberon? {off of avalon}.

reason: didn't somebody(s) here say that Demona killed Madoc, who was roughly Oberon's equal?

<<How about Puck vs. Coyote in a Magic the Gathering match?>> whouldn't that be - well, sorta - redundant?

they may or may not see hte humor in it.

Rodlox
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:55:22 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Not much to post tonight, I have to dance tomorrow from 8-4 and then I have to work from 6-10. *sigh* I think I'm going to collapse! As long as I can get through this week I'll be okay. Just waiting for the new ep....
SOROW
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:53:38 AM
IP: dll2a010-0282.splitrock.net

**A white cloud blows into the CR and Winterwolf steps out of it. The arctic cloud is absorbed into the bracer of winter. Winterwolf smiles when he sees Niamhgold's Flag Day Birthday cake. He creates a plate and fork out of ice and starts eating the piece Niamhgold cut for him.**

Hi! I've been keeping myself busy lately, but never so busy as not to post. :)

Here's a comparison. Who is the better right hand man between Preston Vogel and Owen Burnett?

Shadowrider> Doh! I missed my reply to you yesterday! Bravo on passing that exam! It was all your hard work and study that let you do well. I mean 16 hours is a good time investment.

1) King Arthur vs. MacBeth in a "Epic Warhammer" match. Can someone refresh my memory on what a Warhammer match would involve? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.
2) Jackal/Hyena vs. Puck/Coyote in a table tennis match. I choose Puck and Coyote. Think of all the tricks they can play on those two in a game of Ping-Pong!
3) Hudson vs. Wolf in a beer drinking match. I'm going with Wolf here. I think he can down enough spirits to knock Hudson out.

How about Puck vs. Coyote in a Magic the Gathering match? :)

Archwolf> <Fool's Mate?> Yeah, except now that I think about it I believe it is in 4 moves. <knee> Good Luck with your knee. To a speedy recovery!

Gside> <multicolor poster> You being a multicolor poster I have to wonder if you only cycle between a few colors. It just looks like you limit yourself to a few as opposed to all the colors of the CR. That's not to be confused with all the colors of the wind. <Sorry, but I took it as a challenge.> It's quite alright. For a really challenge you must bring a shrubbery for the CR. Once you've don that we will need another shrubbery only slightly larger than the first one and you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest wiiiiiiiiiiiiith a herring! :)

Mandolin> Welcome back!

Caliope> <Rent-A-kid> No, at least not exactly. When I was working as a counselor we would each watch over a group of kids and make sure they were safe. Most of us, myself included, would just play along with the kids. It made watching them easier, when you involved a group of them in a game, and more fun at least for us anyway. I'd be happy to share all the details with you if you like.

DPH> I hope your knees are feeling better. Maybe a nice heating pad to relax the area will make you feel better. <Winter's and wolf's> I believe Mecord listed them all. At least he got the ones I thought of right away. Do I get counted twice being both winter and wolf? ;) <Lightning> I can see you going for some flare on this move. In a passing heartbeat DPH raises his hand up to the heavens and is recharged by a powerful searing bolt of pure electric energy.

Mecord> <Who would be the better swordsman/woman, Sata, or King Arthur with Excalibur?> Well I'll go with Arthur since he is using Excalibur. This doesn't mean he would win a duel with Sata. I think he might just be more effective in certain situations than Sata. <Brooklyn's Quest> Sounds interesting. I'm thinking it would be similar to a running comic strip. I say yeah, go for it.

Niamhgold> :) <It's like a cool game of badmitton!> I used to play that! Well I guess I better send you some email. ;) I like the latest fic I'm up to so far. As if I wouldn't like or love one of your fics! ^_^

Christine> Cheers on the great book news!

Ironwolf> <Silly Wolves run in packs> That's weird you guys seem to leave me behind all the time! :p

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf jumps to his feet and sees the short woman race to her bike leaving the area. Looking back at the three others with their fire throwing weapons, he spots one of them hurrying off to the north. The remaining two flank him and edge their fiery blasts closer to him.

Winterwolf manages to dodge the fire that threatens to consume him. He notes how the grass is wet and slippery and is thankful, otherwise the grass would have been burning by now. Turning and moving quickly towards the house Winterwolf spots a barbecue grill sitting up against the side of the house. He works he way to it and notes the gas tank mounted to the grill. A quick plan jumps into his head. Now all he needed to do was get both of these clowns in position. In his haste Winterwolf tripped on the sprinkler for the grass. Charles and Ira catch up and let loose a blast from their weapons. The burning hot flames engulf Winterwolf.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Good Night everybody!
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:50:51 AM
IP: dialup-209.244.182.70.newyork2.level3.net

Rodlox> <<you wouldn't have to excecute your creativity - whatever=you-ccalled-them...just give them to me.>> Only if you want your writing to grind to a halt; the little boogers haven't done much in weeks...months for some fics...I have three fics sitting collecting dust because of those slackers. >:/ If I ever figure out how to get them out of my head, you're welcome to them...unfortunately, when I sent someone to extract them, he came back thinking he was a four-headed chicken. O_o'

Mecord> <<Great link BTW. Just more proof that the Illuminati are behind all the mathematical torture I had to go through in school. :)>> Who knows, they may even be responsible for the Killer Tomatoes... ;P

Jannie> Chicken jokes> I think Hussein's is my favorite. >;P

Jenna> <> OW. >_< Hope that heals soon...

Niamhgold> Badtimes virus> I'm almost sure I have something along these lines, because virtually every piece of electronic equipment or software that I have ever bought either has had something wrong with it or has put me through unimaginable amounts of frustration in order to acquire it. Even the CD scratching thing has happened (Myst, The 7th Guest, Final Fantasy 7 (twice), Sonic Adventure)... O_o' <<It will replace your shampoo with Nair and your Nair with Rogaine>> Kinda defeats the purpose, I'd say. :P
<<Fox vs. Robyn Canmore>>
Fox: "Mom, I've got a problem..." Robyn: <spontaneously combusts>
<<Thailog vs. Proteus>>
Proteus turns into Thailog, infiltrates Thailog's base, and tells Thailog's goons that the real Thailog is Proteus. Fun ensues.
<<King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena>>
Hm. A sword and a pair of claws vs...lasers, sawblades, drills, extendable cutting blades...
<<Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote>>
It ends in a tie and the entire population of Buffalo, New York wondering why they're all dressed like fish. (Don't ask.)
<<Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf)>>
Fang takes to the skies and turns Wolf into barbecue.

Fire Storm> <<Walrus news now dolphins. Happy groundhog!>> Soon, they will know the power of our pork pies, and then we will rule the multiverse! You can have the sticky bit near Ontario. Dawno, dawno temu, w odleglej galaktyce...Nie, zaraz, to nie ta bajka. Zacznijmy jeszcze raz? AGGHHHH!! NOODLE FISH!!! KRRFFTTT

DPH> <<On a related note, will not Owen have to age sooner or later?>> He ages at the normal human rate as long as he's in Owen form, but its age resets every time he turns into Puck. As long as he can keep finding excuses to turn into Puck, he's pretty much immortal...<<How many "wolf"'s and "Winter"'s are in this room? Please count even RP characters.>> Do wolf mutates without 'wolf' in their names count? :)

Winterwolf> <<Do you read the last posts that you missed before the room reset?>> Yup; I read every post since the last time I posted. ^_^

Rev. Attila> <<Scooby and Shaggy were always the ones in the back of the van (doing who knows what).>> I'd worry more about Scooby and Velma; I've heard things about Scrappy being their illegitimate offspring... :P

Villain vs. Anti-Hero> [Wilek conjures two characters from his fics, a black-masked humanoid male in a silver cape and smap-brim hat, and pale-skinned Fey who wears a black cloak and carries a scythe.] Meet Forfexx and Astaroth. The former is in the habit of tracking down murderers, child molesters, and their like, and smearing their entrails all over the nearest wall. The latter is in the habit of luring random people off the street into out-of-the-way places so he can kill them and use their souls in experiments. I'll let y'all sort out who's the anti-hero and who's the villain. ;)

Ironwolf> Welcome back! :D <<life been kickin my ummm back end, and we all know she fights dirty and thats the only reasson she has been kickin my tail>> Oii, I know what that's like... o_O Hope it leaves you alone soon...

Airwalker> <<Are any of the dubbed Sailor Moon episodes out on Video?>> I thought I saw some on DVD once...<<My plane leaves later today but I had a few minutes free so I'm stopping by to say Bye for the summertime (or at least most of it). But don't worry, I will return. In the meantime though I will miss these two rooms. Take care and be well everyone!>> Farewell... :(

Gside> <<It's all about the flute phrase. I really want to get that progression.>> Ohh yes...That song is one of my favorites ever...I wonder if there was ever a Sailor Moon soundtrack CD that had the full version of that song on it...

Mandolin> Campaign spokesperson? I am suitably impressed. ^_^

Todd> <> I can easily see her serving human meat to other humans without them knowing it. >;)

SJ> <<Jedi Power Battles. Wilek, do you have this game? If you don't, you'll want it! Nothing like playing Mace Windu and showing the Trade Federation just who the bad mutha really is.>> Indeed? <chuckles evilly> I'll have to check it out. ^_^ (As soon as I can tear myself away from Unreal Tournament... ^_^)
Wilek Nereus
Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:45:01 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

***BEGIN RP***
Kari, Sammael, Dyspare, the Administrator, the Borg, and the Demon Army all prepare themselves to teleport to the battlefield where they will engage Number 4 of the Ten in mortal combat.
"Are we all ready?" Sammael asked. "Good. Now, it won't be an easy fight....but together we can defeat the Ten. United we are stronger than we are as individuals. Now let's go and kick some ass!"
This drew the support of the demon army, who shouted loudly, their bloodlust rising.
Kari turned to the Hounds, who were sitting quietly at her feet. "Boys, we're going to have to leave you," she said. "I know you'd like to help, but you would best serve us as backup. Do you think you can stay here until we get back."
The Hounds shook their large heads. One of them flicked its tail towards a nearby convertible.
"What?" Kari asked. "What are you trying to tell me?"
"Scooby over there says they're going to drive back home to Washington," Dyspare said. He turned to a surprised Kari. "What? My uncle was part demon-dog, you know. I can speak canine."
Kari turned back to the Hounds. "I was just wondering when SJ taught these two to drive....."
"Are we ready?" the Administrator interrupted. Kari nodded. "Good," the Borg Queen said. "Then let's go!"
With a flash of light, they were gone.
****END RP***

Well, I'm back, finally. Had a rough few days there, mainly because my computer is dying on me. I've been having some horrendous booting problems in the past few days. This computer...it's just about at the end of its line, and I don't have the cash to buy a new one. So I must suffer through.
I did get a chance to play some new video games I got. Saga Frontier and Wild Arms for my RPG addiction, and the super cool Jedi Power Battles. Wilek, do you have this game? If you don't, you'll want it! Nothing like playing Mace Windu and showing the Trade Federation just who the bad mutha really is.

**Star Wars News!!!**
The latest word on the next Star Wars prequel is that cinematic GOD, Chris "Hey, I'm also in the LOTR, don't you know" Lee, has been cast in an unknown role. And the Lord God looked down upon creation, and saw that it was good.
I PRAY that Lucas gets help writing this film, cause he's got no complaints from me on the casting so far. We have a pretty boy as Anakin, but at least it's not a pretty boy that I've grown to detest (like any of the Dawson's Creek ilk). We have Sam Jackson as a bad muthafilkin' Jedi, Chris Walken was cast in a role, Ray Park will be back in some way, and now Chris Lee. I think it'd be cool if Jimmy Smits played a role, but that's looking like it may be more rumor than fact. But so far, as for the cast, I think Lucas is coming up all aces.

Reboot News: For fans of the show, the two Reboot movies have a tentative release date of Spring and Fall 2001. Both movies should air on the Cartoon Network, and if I may give a couple spoilers, the movies will show the Daemon (whatever that is....can't say I've ever watched the show) and will feature the return of Megabyte. It's a bit of a wait, but hey, I suppose it's worth it.

Fights: I know I'm a little late to the table here, but I'd like to weigh in on the various fights.

Sata vs. Demona: Everyone always talks about how Demona is overrated.....I think SATA is the overrated one. I think that the reason so many people place her above Demona is for one reason--bad writing. It may be a bit blasphemous for me to say this, but I honestly think that the writers of the series screwed Demona when it comes to fighting ability. It's ridiculous, if you ask me. Demona, getting her ass handed to her by Elisa? Please. Realistically, or as real as a cartoon can get, Elisa vs. Demona would end with Elisa a red smear on the pavement in about 2 minutes, and that's IF Demona decides to play with her first. I don't buy the "she spent 1000 years hiding" bullsh!t. She took out every hunter that came after her, generation after generation. Sata vs. Demona ends with Sata's head on a stick. Or katana blade.

Sata vs. Demona, round two--Cooking: Sata must know how to make some fine Japanese dishes. She enters the kitchen with her coach and dear friend, Emeril Lagasse. Demona enters with her coach, the surviving Fat Lady. Sata wins by default when Demona's casserole burns up and in a rage she kills the Fat Lady with a salad fork.

Sata vs. Demona, round 3--Swimsuit competition: Winner? Every male who watches it!

Fox vs. Robyn: Tough match....I'd give Fox the ultimate victory cause I feel she's just slightly more clever than Robyn, and thus would think of some way to pitch the battle to her favor. Otherwise, I view the two as pretty evenly matched. Robyn has spent her life training to take down Demona, but Fox is an excellent fighter herself.

Thailog vs. Proteus: Proteus all the way, unless Thailog thinks up a way to trick Proteus. Mentally, Thailog would win, cause he's damn smart and he'd probably find a way to convince Proteus to stop his attack. Otherwise....if you're talking physically.....Thailog is soooo dead. Again, I blame the writing on the show. Proteus could shapeshift into practically anything, with such abilities as strength augmentation.....we never got to see that in the show, but if applied correctedly, Proteus could be an virtually unstoppable opponent. Thailog would put up a valiant fight, but ultimately Proteus would transform into something particularly unpleasant and that'd be that.

Jackal & Hyena vs. Arthur and Griff: Oooh, tag team action! Early advantage to Jack and the Toaster Humper, but ultimately Arthur and Griff kick metal hiney.

Weird Sisters vs. Coyote, Raven, and Anansi: Probably the Sisters, cause they just plain don't care. No qualms about fighting dirty. The Tricksters could probably cause a lot of damage, but they just don't have the killer edge the Sisters do.

Wolf vs. Fang: Fang, but only slightly. I'd actually go with Wolf with the slight strength advantage, but Fang has flight capability and his electric shock, so he comes out a bit ahead.

Finally....From Zealot.com, It's the Top Fifteen Signs the Star Trek Writers Just Don't Care Anymore!

15. It's called the last five years of Trek.

14. Ill-conceived Just Shoot Me crossover.

13. Seven of Nine is replaced as the sex symbol by Wesley Crusher. [Follow the formula, boys and girls: Whil Wheaton + TV = Ratings Cancer]

12. The BBC just isn't putting out Dr. Who and Red Dwarf videos fast enough lately to steal a WHOLE season for Voyager... never mind a movie. [You want to talk theft? Try Bablyon 5, my friend. Damn you straight to hell, Berman]

11. They submit scripts that hinge on the return of V'Ger, and their version of the "data storage" sequence is the same as being sent to the Drab Room...no really! It's dark, empty, and if you listen closely, you can hear Shatner's rendition of "Free Bird"...lost, all is lost...

10. Enemies may now use a lifeline when losing a battle

9. Spending all their time writing stupid Top Ten entries.

8. Nelix and Chakotay show up on the bridge wearing boxer shorts and a baseball hat.

7. Two words: tachyon particles. Three words: more tachyon particles. Four words: even more tachyon particles. Five... well, you get my point.

6. OK, like, in episode 17, they state that the enlisted galley is, like, on deck 7, but then in episode 33, they said it was on, like, deck 5. Geesh, like, who are they trying to fool, huh?

5. Spock says, "That is bulls**t, Captain"

4. Last show reveals that the entire season was just an extended holodeck adventure.

3. Pulling a line from a fanfic website, they actually make Deanna Troi say, "And do you notice that your boobs are firmer?"

2. The best Techno-Babble they can come up with is "doo-hickey" and "thing-a-ma-bobber"

1. The special "100th Warp Core Breach" episode of Voyager.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:48:27 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**jogs into the room, sunburned, drenched, with aching feet**

Been busy. What can I say? Sunday I went to the track again for this year's KMart 400. **shivers**
Lap 151, the rain starts coming down. By that time I've got a dilly-o of a sunburn ... and now me and mom are getting thoroughly *soaked.* We left on the first red flag (which lasted 94 minutes), then heard on our way home the race was restarted, then red flagged again and eventually called six laps short of complete (the winner, for those who might follow NASCAR, was Tony Stewart.). But we still had fun. :)
Then I closed three nights in a row including tonight, and then on the way home I make a passing comment to my mother about a Ford dealership in Clinton Twp having a "Mustang Sale." How was I to know she'd actually take me *seriously?* To the point that, tomorrow, after my car's fixed and hers is fixed ... we're going up to the dealership to check out 'Stangs. Convertibles. Red ones. With black interiors and soft tops. **drools for a brief moment** V-8's. **collapses in ecstasy, until Mara-ko dumps a bucket of water on him**

Thanks, my love, I needed that.

Demona vs. Sata: Sata would need some serious upgrading if she's to go toe-to-toe with Demmie. Unenhanced, I'd call it at best (for Sata) a draw.

Niamhgold: WHEEL 'ER IN, BOYS!!!

**moving crew wheels in belated Execution^TM cake**

Happy belated b-day. **hands over remote** Pick yer flavor.

Mandi: WAY TO GO! **high fives**

Demona vs. Sata chess: Once again, a draw. Mainly because chess had made its way pretty much around the world by the 7th Century.

Demona vs. Sata cooking: Depends on the judge. If it's someone with strictly European tastes, it'll be Demmie. If they're like me and are an Asian food junkie, Sata by a long shot. :)

Jackal/Hyena vs. Puck/Coyote table tennis: Depends on who has the better game and if neither team decides to cheat. A draw.

Hudson vs. Wolf drinking under the table: Thoroughly shloshed, Hudson and Wolf spend the bulk of the night harmonizing (badly) to Scottish war chants. They pass out in each other's arms after beergoggling each other. Once again, a draw.

Anyway, that's all for me. Wish us luck when we go shopping for Mustangs tomorrow ... **chuckles nervously as he leaves**
Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:34:21 PM
IP: 216.28.101.77

Fare thee well, Airwalker.

Thoughts obout the fights topic: No one seems to consider that the tricksters might go for a divide and conquor with the sisters. How good are they individually?

Another odd vs. idea: Upgraded Lex vs. Matrix in a hacking/programming/Quake contest (with direct neural interfaces, no one else should be a match for them).

Shadowrider> <>: Nah, that's just what it wants you to think.

Aaron> <<thanks to Gside, who is cleverer then I>>: Not really. Just right clisk, view image. I had better be on speaking terms with computers if my two majors revolve around them.

Mecord> Brooklyn's Quest: Should be pretty good. Don't think it would be that much different from an extended fanfic cycle, if more connected between episodes/chapeters.

"Me and my mate were back at the shack, we had Spike Jones on the box, she said, 'I can't take the was he sings, but I love to hear him talk.'" I give you Spike Jones's version of The Daring Young Man on the Flying Trapeeze. Plus, I added pictures of the two scariest people I know, and a little something for the Reverend.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:22:19 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Mara Shinigami Cordova - <> He IS hot! If he would stop that dang sneer, eye twitch, crzy man look he would look even hotter!! hee hee.

Niamhgold - Thank you! :) I hear you aren't too shabby yourself. :)

Christine - Working on the Jae and her hot date pic. ;) You would think I would have better reference pics of the man.....:P .. Igor for my birthday!! HUZZAH!!! ::wonders what Igor would do with a Jae'elae plushy:: O.o
CrzyDemona
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:19:43 PM
IP: 209.150.94.63

Before I log off for the night!

Mandolin>>>Havent seen you in a while Welcome back

Niahmgold>>> Happy Birthday!
Spacebabie
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:02:34 PM
IP: user-37kaou8.dialup.mindspring.com

My part of the Ten Saga RP will be up tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.

Gasper
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:53:01 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Why are there so many common names?

Silly Wolves run in packs :)
Ironwolf
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:48:34 PM
IP: host-209-214-41-144.cha.bellsouth.net

Niamhgold > happy birthday! And yep, got it in one, that's little Morgana St. John all grown up ; )

Crzy > looks cool, m'dear! When will we be seeing the lovely Jae'elae on her hot date with a certain sorceror? ; )

Book news > the 'proof' arrived today for Dark of the Elvenwood; this is the spiral-bound dress rehearsal to make sure all the pages are in order and everything. It looks terrific, with the only problem being that one of Christi's pics came out awfully _dark_ so we'll have to see if it can be fiddled with. And tonight in a Pyramid chat, darling John Kovalic plugged it for me!!!

(psst, Crzy, he also mentioned a line of Dork Tower plushies ... want Igor for your birthday? HUZZAH!)

Fanfic Update > 22 pages and counting into "The Dissidents: Coalition." Unlike the previous story, this one is not set in the first person. So far, it's been from the point of view of Dr. Michelle Jessec (a new character) and Hippolyta.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:08:50 PM
IP: 16-184.009.popsite.net

** Niamhgold in for another quickie **

Shadowrider: Got your e-mail, and your descriptions of Nemo...My brain's starting to scheme, here ... ;)

Winterwolf: Got your em, now check yours! (It's like a cool game of badmitton!)

DPH: You're very welcome for the cake (I couldn't eat it all myself, anyways!). My family celebrates Flag Day more excessively than they celebrate the Fourth of July :) Thanks for the b-day wishes!

Caliope: ** Niamhgold takes the lolli-pop and hugs back ** thank you so much! Did you manage to get some cake while you were in here? ;)

Mandolin, Aaron: Thank you, as well! :)

Hm...some more contests:

Wolf vs. Hudson in a beer-drinking fight: Chalk it up to age and the hard experience as a soldier, and I'll give it to Mentor :)

Puck/Coyote vs. Jackal/Hyena in table tennis match: Puck and Coyote, because they could make the ball look like a giant elephant heading for the twins. ** Niamhgold shakes her head ** OOooohh-kaaaay...

King Arthur vs. Sata with swords: Arggh! Two good guys whom I really like! I'll have to go with Arthur, though, since he's got that kind of magically-endowed luck (I'm assuming via Excalibur).

CrzyDemona: Aack! I've said it once (or twice, or three times...) but your stuff is awesome! :)

Adios, guys and gals!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@...ahh, I think you all must know it by now!]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 09:49:13 PM
IP: lac-flex116.ncia.net

Oh, one more thing to add to the this guy Vs. that guy conversation.

Mecord's first rule of combat: Cheap shots happen.

Have a nice day. :)
Mec
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 08:59:45 PM
IP: usr39.mtwest.net

**Mecord slides down the fire pole into the CR**

He, he. Those are fun. :)

General Announcement>> I had a great idea, well I think it�s great. As soon as I finish my current fanfic I�m going to implement another story that has been cooking around in my head for almost three years now. It�s roughly a book length story I call Brooklyn�s Quest. But here�s the catch that makes it work. Instead of everyone having to wait until I�m finished with one part, I�m going to post it in short biweekly segments. This is going to be difficult and about a month in planning. But once I start it could go on for a year or even two. Depends on how and where I want to end the story. So I want honest opinions, what does everybody think about this idea?

Gyre>> Grim, real grim.

DPH>> Let�s see, Winterwolf, Archwolf, Ironwolf, WarFrost (don�t know if he really counts but I think he should), Winterblade, ShadowWolf, and as long as we�re comparing similar names I�m going to make a leap to Shadowrider. That�s seven, did I miss anyone?

Fools Mate>> The first thing Demona tells Sata before the Chess game :)

VS.>> King Arthur Vs. MacBeth in a "Epic Warhammer" match. Tough one, but I would have to go with MacBeth, he has a more updated style of strategy that may give him advantage.
Jackal/Hyena Vs. Puck/Coyote in a table-tennis match. I can just see the evil twins using all there technological advantages while the Fey sit back and recline mid-air as their paddles float around hitting the ball at dizzying speeds. :)
Hudson Vs. Wolf in a beer-drinking match. Do we even know for sure if Wolf drinks? Probably does, I�ll guess Wolf would get this one. Unless something about his mutation makes it so he reacts badly to alcohol.
Fox vs. Robyn Canmore. This one�s too close to call. I would think Fox and David Xanatos both keep up their fighting skills. If Exo-suits are allowed this may give Fox the advantage in technology though Robyn may have more experience. Either way, it would be one heck of a fight.
Thailog vs. Proteus. Hmm, Proteus in outright combat, Thailog in scheming if the fight is somehow diverted.
King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena: The evil twins may have some kick butt equipment, but King Arthur and Griff are no lackeys. I believe they could out wit the twins. I may be in the minority, but I would give this round to the King and his Knight.
Weird Sisters vs. Raven/Anansi/Coyote. Weird Sisters. They act as one, which may even work against them, but though they may get a little battered, they pick off the others. If anything, Coyote has the best chance of turning the tide.
Wolf vs. Fang. Wolf tends to bear hug and try to crush his enemy with a show of superior strength. At which point Fang could toast him. End game.

Who would be the better swordsman/woman, Sata, or King Aurther with Excalibur?

I'm saving the RP for a later date. That's all for now.

Later,
Mecord
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 08:50:00 PM
IP: usr39.mtwest.net

Urgh just went shopping for Fathersday/Birthday gifts with mom, we then had Sushi for dinner and I'm stuffed.
(A) Fox vs. Robyn Canmore Fox She has access to her husband's technology and she can use magic
(B) Thailog vs. Proteus I picture proteus turning into that giant foot from Monty Python and stepping on thailog
(C) King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena ,i hate to admit it but i think the cybernetic twins win at this contest
(D) Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote I have to go with the tricksters. I can picture Raven and Coyote somewho tricking the sisters into getting stuck in Anansi's web, wich is lined with a little iron
(E) Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf) Fang, Faster Pussycat kill kill.

Sailormoon...Ok when did Lita's mother came back from the dead? but on the plus side she used her "Sparkling wide pressure" attack instead of "Jupiter Thunderclap Zap" they are both the same but the first is the OAV version.
The name for Sailomoon's new transformation.item and attack are pretty much the same.

Now today...OMG! Neptune and I have the same name! they kept the attacks the same except for adding the planetary name.
They didn't mention that they are sisters((Yet!)) and venus's original transformation BGM was playing....
Uranus's name: This is the list of what a lot of people thought her name would be:Alex,Erica,Corinn(on the doll box),Veruca... I was not expecting Amara.Now I wonder if Mara Cordova will refere to herself as Amara Cordorva???

It rained Sunday,yesterday and I think its about to today...and as for the ant infestation well we had to clean a bunch of dead ones out of the pool

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 07:56:26 PM
IP: user-37kaou8.dialup.mindspring.com

Just a quickie:
**RP RELATED**
Rodlox, Winterwolf be sure and check the BFTS RP archive at www.cei.net/~dphofrules/chrons/bftsrp.html before posting more BFTS RP to see how things changed from the original posts. Or just click on my name.
**END RP RELATED**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 07:25:59 PM
IP: max1-27.cwy.cei.net

GYRE - I seriously doubt that Elisa would wind up on Demona's ingredients list, since I can't imagine Demona willingly eating humans. She'd take an attitude of "Put one of those abominations in my mouth? Never!"
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 07:19:14 PM
IP: 216.87.46.183.dialup-stl.primary.net

CrzyOne:: Finished pic-

I have only one complaint, and it's a trivial one. How in the world can you be so good that you make Garv look.... hot?!??!?!??!?!?!?

::sniffle:: Life is so unfair.

::wipes tears away:: In other words, amazing piece of work.
Mara Shinigami Cordova
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 05:40:21 PM
IP: spider-to012.proxy.aol.com

DPH- Your Sailor Moon question is easy to answer. In Japanese Uranus' voice was a bit more butch sounding. The haircut and clothing were rather unfeminine, and in anime lots of males are softspoken as well. The episode worked a LOT better in Japanese, due to not only the voice acting, but the footage that wasn't cut and the dailouge. They totally ruined they entire last scene, and the entire sequence with Rei sneezing...
Robby
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 05:21:13 PM
IP: spider-tj033.proxy.aol.com

**RP RELATED**
Some might ask why bother reading the archive of the BFTS RP. Here's some good reasons: spelling mistakes are corrected. continuity problems are resolved. Missing words/phrases are added.
**END RP RELATED**

First order of business from me: Severe pain in my knees when I stand up. I woke up with the pain in my knees when I started to stand up. I am glad I did not have to work today. I must have strained myself more than I thought yesterday. Too bad I can not heal myself with lightning in real life.

Sailer Moon - One thing I could not figure out. I could tell that the women dressed like a man had a deep WOMAN's voice the whole time. How could anyone not hear that the whole time?

Niamhgold, you did not have to bring the cake. Thank you for the delicious cake. It almost makes me want to share my b day.

DPH makes a proclamation: anyone who even thinks about bidding on Winterwolf will get electrocuted. That especially means the typo police.

How many "wolf"'s and "Winter"'s are in this room? Please count even RP characters.

Don't you just love long battles?
**BFTS RP**
DPH and Plastique hear a sonic boom. DPH immediately uses lightning to heal both Plastique and himself.

DPH sees that he is isolated from Plastique so he decides to have some fun. He creates a portal that a Speed Star falls through. The Speed Star reappears 15" in the air and is falling fast. The other Speed Stars rush to try to catch that one.

"DPH, can you distract one of the Speed Stars long enough for me to remove that darn suit on the Speed Stars?" says Plastique.

"Ok. One more thing: call ITAG HQ after we win this battle. I need to know if the data on my powers has been compromised." replies DPH.

The Speed Stars sucessfully catch their comrad and starting firing again. DPH starts shooting his gun to keep the one carrying the sonic cannon offguard. The Speed Stars carrying the flame throwers see DPH what is doing and concentrate on DPH. Meanwhile Plastique tries to get the back side of the same Speed Star DPH is attacking. She almost gets to the back when a flame suddenly gets between her and the Speed Star. Plastique starts to leap to go over the flame and . .
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 05:14:51 PM
IP: max1-64.cwy.cei.net

Cooking contest, Sata vs. Demona, it would be interesting to be sure. But it is probably best not to know what Demona would use as ingrediants.

Goliath:"Elisa, Elisa, has anyone seen Elisa?"
Gyre - [wseeley@epix.net]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 04:45:12 PM
IP: fltg2-ppp38.fltg.net

Shadowrider>Nah, no problem. Like you said, we all have our favorites. <<vision of Greenpeace organizing a three-months sit-in before the Nighstone Unlimited...>> Heheh, let's see if they'll move when we start driving through their staging area. ;) And, thanks to Gside, who is cleverer then I, click on this link, which should pull up the specific image.

Jenna> Perhaps you should make an example of this one, to keep the others in line. Sorry, channeling Nightstone management again.

Niamhgold> Happy birthday.

Gside><<Fool's Mate?>>: I didn't notice that before, but that just could be Demona's idea of what Sata is.>> To paraphrase Obi Wan, "Who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool who married him?"

Mandolin> So, does this mean you're famous now? ;)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 03:49:40 PM
IP: ppp-95.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

*runs in*

HI!!!!!!!

Winterwolf> <<You get to play with the kids, practically as a kid yourself, without having to pay to play with the kids. ;) Of course you have responsibilities, but I remember it being more fun than work.>> Pay to play with kids?!?!?! how does that work, a Rent-A-kid service or something?! :P But it has been fun for me, a little tiring but worth it. Thoses kids are in a special program and need alot of love, and I have plenty to go around! Want some?! :P Here! *HUGZ*

Niamhgold> Its your B-Day?! And I missed it?! Well, Happy late B-Day to ya! *HUGZ and gives her a b-Day lolly pop* :P

Well! Gotta book it! Bye! *HUGZ all and runs back out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 02:57:55 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

Short post because I'm borrowing my supervisor's computer. Why I have to do that is a very long story... stupid Intergraph machine...

Niamhgold> Happy belated birthday!

The fights> Don't have time to explain my answers; most of these are gut instinct.

Fox/Robyn - Fox.
Thailog/Proteus - Thailog
Jackal & Hyena/Arthur & Griff - Probably the twins
Weird Sisters/Coyote, Raven, Anansi - The Sisters, unless the other three can work together
Wolf/Fang - Fang.

OT note for N&A fans> Well, the campaign's getting a little exposure. Click my name to read an article that Mom will kill me over if she ever reads it...
Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 01:15:08 PM
IP: g6192.apgea.army.mil

<Shadowrider enters>
Hey everyone, hope everything is all right...

Niamhgold:> <receives hug and cake> <blushes a little> I'm glad you liked my card...How is your Birthday going? I hope everything is going like you have desired. Thank you for the Thank-you-card (and sorry for the word-joke...)...but you have not to thank me: I do everything with pleasure, really...I'm just worried of seeming intrusive...
Oh, and speaking of it...please check you email...

Kitainia:> I'm very glad of hearing Cobra is still on the road. As I said once, I hope he will be able to follow his path until he'll choose to stop.

Gside & Joxter:> WHOOOPS! <blushes more this time> Now I understand...and, now that I realized it, my own phrase is beginning to summon some visions in my mind...very vivid visions...<Shakes head. A lot of times. Regains composure.> Hey, after all I have the control of my mind, isn't it? 8P More seriously, OK, I understood. BTW, it is an interesting idiomatic expression, I'll keep it in mind...

Sata/Demona cooking contest:> Demona magically manipulating food? We still haven't finished with genetically manipulated food...<vision of Greenpeace organizing a three-months sit-in before the Nighstone Unlimited...>.

Contests:> Here's some others.

1) King Arthur Vs. MacBeth in a "Epic Warhammer" match.
2) Jackal/Hyena Vs. Puck/Coyote in a table-tennis match.
3) Hudson Vs. Wolf in a beer-drinking match

Not so much to say this time, isn't it?

See you later!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:53:58 PM
IP: h213-46-101.mi2.albacom.net

Hey! Finally finished that pic of Gaav (from Slayers) and Jae'elae (erm... from Christine's fic world O.o)

Go ahead... click the link... I dare ya ;)
CrzyDemona - [<--- finished Pic!]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:04:19 PM
IP: 209.150.94.70

** Niamhgold enters. She's towing behind her a particularly large, red wagon--of the childhood sort--which is completely filled with a girth of a flag-decorated cake **

HAPPY FLAG DAY, EVERYBODY!!!! :) Does someone have a knife for this cake?

** Out of the shadows, King Arthur offers her Excalibur, then Sata her swords. Niamhgold proceeds to cut the cake **

It's any flavor you want it to be, guys, and I'm passing it around the room! ;) Oh, yeah, and I had the Weird Sisters put a spell on it so that this here cake is self-replenishing ;) Enjoy! ** An especially large piece goes to Winterwolf, since he was promised as such **

Jenna, Kit, Winterwolf, Shadowrider, Denis, Rodlox, Brooklyn, GB, Gside: ** Hugz and cake ** Muchas gracias for all the wishes! :D

Rodlox: ** Blushes ** Please, don't feel obligated! I love reading and commenting on people's fics! < would a garg eat an egg > Um, maybe. It's difficult to say...you'd probably start getting "vegetarian"-type gargs who wouldn't, and then you'd get gargs who just would (like Broadway). It's a tough question... :)

Christine Morgan: Hmm...can I apply for some bonus points here? ;) I'm guessing that the lady at the end of "Lylth," is La Petite Morgana (from Cats and Dogs?)

Archwolf: Hope your days continue to get better! (And you're right; knee surgery is so much better than the alternative of letting it sit and get worse) :)

Here were my ideas on the rival fights:

Fox vs. Robyn Canmore: I'd have to give this fight, a long one though it would be, to Robyn--only because she's probably been better trained in making a kill. Fox maybe learned defensive, would definitely be able to hold her own, but Robyn's *lived* her entire life fighting. It's her lifeblood, what her father instilled in her. Of course, if Fox lets loose some magic, Robyn's done for--but that would only happen if Alex was endangered. Otherwise, I don't think Fox could tap it.

Thailog vs. Proteus: There'd be no fight >:) They'd jump all over Microsoft's antitrust case, make a world-domineering corporation to rival Xanatos _and_ one that would trade with New Olympus. The only way it would end would be double-crossing; Proteus either turns Thailog over to Demona/the Hunters, or Thailog would cut a deal with Boreas to get Proteus back in jail. Heh ;)

King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena: Jackal and Hyena. Not only can they kick some butt, but they're just so flamboyant about it, too! :)

Weird Sisters vs. Raven/Anansi/Coyote: Definitely the Weird gals. They know how to work as a team, and they're sneaky.

Wolf vs. Fang: Anyone want a cajan-style pack member? :)

Adios for now!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 09:58:51 AM
IP: lac-flex120.ncia.net

Just a quickie post:
**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, Rodlox check your email and please respond to the email I just sent.

Thanks for pointing out alternatives to use instead of "summoned lightning". Apology accepted.
**END RP RELATED not an RP named Related**
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 09:45:11 AM
IP: max1-42.cwy.cei.net

So nobody wants to back Tony? Oh well, I don't really think he'd win in any type of fair fight either. He COULD potentially take out Xanatos if he planned carefully, struck with total surprise, and nobody on his side screwed up, but how likely is that?

Anyway, on to something else:
>Demona vs. Sata in the kitchen - I'd have to give this one to Demona. Sata's probably a fairly good Japanese cook, but I doubt she's picked up a lot of range outside of that. On the other hand, Demona might know how to cook a lot of things, and she can use alchemy to spice things up.

Besides, I figure Demona is a really good Chili (sp?) chef. She probably has a super-nuclear-devistation recipe that sue built up a tollerance for just so she could eat it every night if she ever had an appartment next door to Macbeth.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 09:01:40 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

My plane leaves later today but I had a few minutes free so I'm stopping by to say Bye for the summertime (or at least most of it). But don't worry, I will return. In the meantime though I will miss these two rooms. Take care and be well everyone!
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 08:14:27 AM
IP: 45.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Cooking contest > Yeah, Sata would make a good start... but just as she's about to seal the victory, Demona would pull out her secret weapon, the Spice Weasel (coutesty of a little Dr. Sevarius brand gene splicing), and win hands down, I can gaur-an-tee. Demona: "Hmm, that's nice Sata-chan, but let's kick it up another notch." >:)

Just 51 short days left until G2K!
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 06:44:21 AM
IP: ac91c205.ipt.aol.com

Oii, I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but apparently I need to explain my bad joke now... I'll try to keep it PG...

Shadowrider- The way you phrased your sentance was a bit odd. I assume you meant "Sata could win against her, but not finish her." You left out the word "against "so the phrase came out "Sata could win her, but not finish her". Upion hearing that, my sometimes dirty little mind sprang right into action, and I made a bad joke that basically took that phrasing and ran with it so that Sata wasn't trying to win a fight against Demona, but was trying to win Demona herself. (Again, that "against" was the crucial word.) And from there the joke just got dirtier and dirtier, the "couldn't finish her" line being about something that takes place in the bedroom.

Folks, please don't hurt me for that one. I bruise easily.
Joxter
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 06:16:57 AM
IP: spider-tp044.proxy.aol.com

I'm not this bad (yet!�)

http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/cat_hat_s1.jpg http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/cat_hat_s2.jpg http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/cat_hat_a1.jpg
Starsinger
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 04:02:34 AM
IP: proxy-632.public.rwc.webtv.net

I'll let this mp3 go until later Wednesday, as the successor is a silly little thing (but with addictive bits).

Niamhgold> Happy birthday.

Robby> <<You want Alan's flute theme you say? Can deliver!>>: Thanks, but maybe I should have been more specific. What I want is the note progression, as in decCg (this means something). If only I could find one of those programs to translate midi to sheet music. Sorry, don't mean to be ungrateful.

Jannie> <<Unless he gives me BAD words to write down and the professor sees it>>: A couple words of advice: never say "foot" with a french accent (joke by Bill (who also advises being careful with gown)), and never make "voir" reflexive.
good luck with the surgery.
<<you squirrely cat>>: "You spoony bard!"

Spacebabie> <<who would win in a cook off>>: Sata moonlghts as Iron Chef Ishimuran.

Aaron> <<Today on Iron Chef, Demona vs. Sata>>: Curse you. I thought if that the instant I read her comment.
<<Unless Excaliber really does make the weilder invincible>>: You need the scabard for that.

Shadowrider> Congratulations on the exam.
<<Ok, probably I seem a total moron now...but I still am not able to appreciate the joke>>: Not at all, you just aren't used to the idiomatic expressions of the language. for example, English has nothing like the reflexive voir. If we were to encounter a direct translation, we would most likely think, "Ok, there was a mirror there, so what?" Plus, it is possible to have a more innocent interpretation (when you win something, you gain it as a prize from a contest).

DPH> <>: I apologize, but some things do get to me.

Winterwolf> <<Gside pointed out an error I made last post>>: Sorry, but I took it as a challenge.

Arch/Winter wolf> <<<>Fool's Mate?>>: I didn't notice that before, but that just could be Demona's idea of what Sata is.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 03:45:12 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Brooklyn: sorry compade, but whatever it was you sent, the attachment cannae be opened.
is it tex-only, or are there italics, bold, pics, etc?

{tex-only? sounds like something C.S.Hayden might write!}.

Rodlox
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 01:52:04 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Oh yeah one more thing.
My mango address didn't change. So you can still reach me there. I'm just trying yahoo's service to see which I like better. So if you want to email me there.

Thanks
Brooklyn - [brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 01:37:05 AM
IP: usr163.cqc.com

Hello everyone
Quick posts
<Niamhgold>
Happy Birthday!!!!:D
I hope it was everything you expected it to be!!
<Winterwolf>
Email me on the progress of the page. Maybe you're pretty close to being done!!:)
<Rodlox>
2 things:
A) Mail me the proofed fic tomorrow. (If it's done!)
B) I'll read more of yours tomorrow aswell.
<Cyborg>
When Rodlox gets it back to me, I'll post it!!!
Yes I'm finally done with the 1st episode.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<SHAMELESS PLUG>
Sometime before Fri. My first fanfic, and the first episode of my series Irish Clan will be in the Fan Archive. Let me know what you think!!!!!
Thanks that's all for tonight!!!!

Brooklyn - [brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 01:34:54 AM
IP: usr163.cqc.com

*Archwolf enters the CR with a bit of bounce in his step, and WarFrost is following along happily, like a puppy at play*

Hey every one! Things have been great on this end the last couple days. Got some misunderstandings resolved, got a paycheck, contacted a friend find out how she is...the only 'bad' thing is that my knee still might need surgery, but even that doesn't look too bad (when compared to the loss of mobility that might result from NOT having it taken care of)

To Everone: Katara says Hello, and that she really misses the CR. Things are in the process of getting better for her. And if anyone is going to the San Diego ComicCon, stop by and see her.

WinterWolf><>Fool's Mate?

NiamhGold>Happy BirthDay!!

Mecord><> Ok. Good point.

Kit>I'm glad you got to see your old biker friends and that they are doing well.

**Short rp**
WinterBlade considered her options. "Well, ShadowWolf _is_ a big problem, but I think I would have to say this hwole deal with the 10 is a much BIGGER problem. I think it might be best to help get rid of them. Then, ShadowWolf.

elsewhere
Thailog looked at ShadowWolf with great anger. "You threw a _knife_ at them?!?!"
"Well, what did you want me to do? I still can't use most of my abilities for some reason."
Thailog looked the dark Werewolf over. When his spies onboard the Avatar had informed him that the DarkMage's aura samplings of the Garou had revealed two distinct entities, one very powerful, the other INCREDIBLY powerful, he had done everything he could to get ahold of the werewolf. It had taken excellent timing on the part of one of the spies to capture the werewolf during the demonic attack and return him to Thailog's headquarters, and the payoff should have been enormous, once the older, more powerful entity was set free. Only, it appeared now that when they had forced the release of the ShadowWolf, somehow many of his powers were locked away with the Archwolf personality. Thailog was begining to think that it might now be worth the trouble. He was, however, not one to throw away a resource until it had been completely exhausted. ShadowWolf may yet turn out to be good cannon fodder, or maybe bait. The cloned gargoyle looked away from the werewolf. "Go back and keep an eye on them. I have a feeling I know their next move, but if things do not go as anticipated, I may need you to 'influence' their decisions."
ShadowWolf nodded and left the area.
**End**

*Archwolf looks around and sees some newbies. Before FlameBoy can get out of the room, he hooks him up to the SanitySucker.* Wow...damn near a full load in that one! *Repeats process on other newbies* Well, not a bad haul for this week.

Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 01:09:02 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-11.mcmurray.nb.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR.**

Gside pointed out an error I made last post. :( So does anyone want to buy a practically brand new Winterwolf? Do I do windows? Yeah I do 3.1, 95, 98, 2000 and NT. :p

SOROW> See and you thought you weren't popular. I'm happy to hear you are having a good time with all the email. :)

Archwolf> It's not a big deal at all. I was more amused by it than anything else. ^_^

Spacebabie> <Sata vs. Demona cooking> I have to give that to Sata. I don't think Demona bothers to cook much at all. Sata takes great pride and honor in preparing food. So I believe her cooking is far superior.

Niamhgold> <multiple hugs> **Winterwolf blushes from all the attention.** Well you said you love getting email so I aim to please. **checks the CR clock.** Happy Birthday Niamhgold! It's the 14th now. ;) Let me see all the decisions. Here are my picks.

(A) Fox vs. Robyn> This is a good matchup. They are both fairly equal in skill. Has Fox been keeping up with her training? I'd imagine she would although it seems potentially questionable in the TGS. If she has then I give this one to Fox. I have the impression that Fox has better fighting skills. She has the skill and with the potential of a magical outburst I feel this just puts her over the top. So I think it would be Fox.

(B) Thailog vs. Proteus> If they did come into conflict I imagine Proteus would win. He had the ability to defeat multiple powerful enemies. He is as sneaky and underhanded as Thailog. He's a super Dr. Hannibal Lecter for goodness sakes!

(C) King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena> Get some tag team action here. This is another good fight. I can see Arthur and Griff being defeated if Jackal and Hyena use all their dirty tricks starting with a surprise attack. Otherwise it is pretty even and once Arthur and Griff have summed up their adversaries' strengths and weaknesses they would be able to win.

(D) Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote> I'm going to give this one to the Weird Sisters. They are always together so they should be a strong team where the others might not work very well together.

(E) Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf)> If Fang can keep away from Wolf he should win. Somehow I see him making a stupid mistake and Wolf tagging him.

Flameboy78> Even though you probably won't catch this. Hi! Welcome to the CR! Even if it was a quick one time visit.

Shadowrider> I see Demona trying to go for checkmate in three if Sata never played the game before.

Jenna> So after one more slip up you can start smacking her around and saying "Respect my authoritay!"? Just like Cartman in South Park. :)

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

The flames nearly engulfed Winterwolf. To avoid the flame Winterwolf scrambled up the side of DPH's house and from the second floor balcony launched himself into the short woman wielding her sound blaster. She was surprised by the sudden move. After a brief struggle he manages to pry the weapon from her and throws it at the fires that are bearing down on him.

When they see the sonic cannon hurled into the tongues of fire from the combined three flame throwers Charles, Judith and Ira ease up on the triggers of that flame throwers. Unfortunately they do not react fast enough. The cannon explodes sending a sonic boom that knocks the three of them down. The shockwave also knocks Winterwolf and Joanne to the ground. The ear shattering blast does not injure any of the 5 combatants of the east side of the house.

Jason was deafened by the painful explosive sound. He notices that just about everything made of glass that didn't break before had been destroyed by that last blast. He only heard a loud ringing in his ears which interfered with his concentration. Putting a hand up to his ear he can feel the blood trickling out of it.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Good night! Sorry I'm not looking for anyone online tonight. I need to get some sleep now. See you tomorrow!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:46:15 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.68.173.newyork2.level3.net

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NIAMHGOLD!!! {gee, now i really _do_ have to dedicate my next fic to you...and not just because you�re the only one who�s ever given me constructive criticism without being a proofreader}.

boy did that ever get off trank...kinda....{and it should be _track_}.

Contestss....

<<Sata/Demona in kitchen>>

Sata: she strikes me as the sort of person who returns therir steak to the kitchen if she even _thinks_ it was cooked wrong. {NOT even getting into the matter of ceremony - Sata in Gargs strikes me as oddly unaffected by all her timedancing: she still holds strictly to her code of Bushido and Nipponese ways of hte century she lived in pre-Dance}.

Demona: she strikes me as the sort who�s eaten everything from raw to crispy critters.......oysters to elephants.

here�s a question: would a garg eat an egg? {or would they regard it as symbolically cannibalistic?}.

<<(A) Fox vs. Robyn Canmore>> Fox.

<<(B) Thailog vs. Proteus>> Proteus.

<<(C) King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena>> i�m NOT gonna comment!!!

<<(D) Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote>> if it�s the same bickering Wierd Sis(sies) as in the first ep of TimeDancer, then the other three - though i doubt the spider would be much help - except maybe as a distraction. {put Loki in with his fellow trickster-troublemakers, and it�s a sure thing}!!

<<(E) Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf) >> even EITH {with} Hakon helping, Fang would win!

<<BTW, could you mention a BRYCE in one of your stories...
please!!! :-). thanks>> absolutely....i think Lex is about due for a new computer program, right? ::)

<<Thought for the Day: Does Steel Wool come from really tough sheep?>> contrary to popular opinion, steel wool in fact originates from the sheep tree......a cousin of the goose-bearing barnacle!! {both in medieval and modern books - can you identify them?}.

**RP - Battle For Technology Saga**
Three people, Rodlox knew. Three against twelve opponents. Not the best of odds.

If this were a human humor program, the punchline would go �so i�ll go easy on you� to the more abundant opponents.

But Grendels did not share the false generosity of humans. It was a kill-as-one-can world, and gave every indication of continuing on that way.

�Who are you?� Rodlox asked in the [general] direction of the four nearest to him - two women and tthree men.

�I am Issery Takuma, creature,� said the woman, whose physical features combined Sumerian and Japanese. In her hands was a flame-throwing weapon-machine.

The second woman looked more like a classical Roman she-gladiator. �Caese Gaula Victo,� also targetting a flame-thrower on him.

�Sedaka Pharo-Tse,� said an Egyptian man, activating his own flame-thrower. �And you, son of Ammitt-the-Destroyer, shall perish!�

�You should not exist,� said the next man, an Irishman in Muslim regalia, �for Allah did not create you. Therefore you shall be killed, by myself - Mahomet McBride.�

�And by me, for similar reason,� said Ihn Jarn Areno, who appeared a hodge-podge of ethnicities and human-genetic backgrounds. Even so, this woman was prepping an unusual weapon of vaguely cannon shape in her hands.

�And if these heathens cannot exterminate you,� said the last man, an Aztec, �then I, Right-Handed Jaguar, shall have the honor of wiping you from this fourth cycle of creation!� He too had that strange cannon.

Oh great, thought Rodlox; somebody�s figured out how to break the walls between timelines.

Jaguar and Areno fired their cannons, with no solids or liquids emerging - only a painfull sound. Sedaka and Takuma fired second - though the first pair did not relent still - and released gouts of flame upon Rodlox.

Rodlox let loose a sound full of [roar-shriek-howl]s, and tumbled into the ground, rolling with a fury, creating a dust cloud around himself - all in the action of dust-bathing, much like a bird. When the flames were not on his back and sides, only a warm heat, Rodlox used his powerfull hind legs and kicked clods of dirt towards his enemies-who-cause-pain.

The dirt jammed one sonic cannon and two flame throwers, and caused the remaining fighters to pause and clear their weapons of any interfereing debree.
**PAUSE RP**
Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail.]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:47:41 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Happy Birthday Niamhgold!!!

jenna
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:44:50 PM
IP: 1cust38.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Oh, and Happy Birthday Niamhgold!!!
Kit
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 09:14:37 PM
IP: pool-207-205-150-39.dlls.grid.net

Shadowrider: Cobra was doing just fine when I saw him, thanks for asking. Still on the road, and having fun with it. :)

All for now.
Kit
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 09:13:54 PM
IP: pool-207-205-150-39.dlls.grid.net

** Niamhgold comes in for a quickie **

Just hafta do one thing. ** Gives Shadowrider a big hug! ** Thank you so much for the Birthday card! It was great, and I thought the message inside was so nice ^_^ You and Winterwolf both are so nice to me! And the e-mail you sent me...I think I got it--was it the one about First Impressions? I might've sent a reply; if not, I'll have to rush back and make one!

** Niamhgold skips back on out **
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 08:45:26 PM
IP: lac-flex249.ncia.net

Robby, Re: Phoenix Gate translation>> That's what I said! The gate stopped translating for them so they had to learn each other's language.

Sailor Moon dub>> Hmm, judging by all the bashing of the Sailor Moon S dub, here in the room, I am glad that I wathed the season subbed by downloading the episodes off the net(I won't say where just in case someone decides to squeal to the guys who have the rights. That way, there's less chance of the site being shut down by MiBs) Also, I think this idea of having Haruka and Michiru as sisters is a bad one. Guess they think the american public isn't ready for superheroines who like other girls. Geez, DC came close to that when they revealed that Supergirl's latest crush, the superhero Comet, was female in his/her civilian ID. As a side note to that, Andy(Comet's real name) was a lesbian which put Supergirl in a bit of a quandry, and she didn't reject Andy outright, but she did say something to the effect of needing to figure it out(so sue me if that ain't it exactly, the issue with the revelation of Comet's identity was last year)

**RP- The Ten Saga**
[#4, I give you one last chance to leave Earth in peace] said Dragon Warrior. #4's answer was a laugh. [Very well then. In that case, it's time to get physical!]

So saying, Dragon Warrior put full power to his armor and blazed at #4, knocking her aside with a surprise roundhouse kick, at the same time signaling several of the Guardio-bots he had brought to the battle. As he let loose a flurry of rapid fire punches, 3 of the silvery robots grabbed onto #4, one on each arm and the third holding her from behind. Dragon Warrior blasted into the air as a high-frequency tone preceded all 3 robots exploding simultaneously. Dragon Warrior immediately fired a flurry of powerful blasts into the smoke cloud, the total more powerful than the Mega-Attack Volley used only days before.

Now, the question is, did the attack succeed? Or will it simply make #4 even angrier?
**End rP- The Ten Saga**
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 08:37:49 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-113-69.bellatlantic.net

**RP RELATED**
Ok, I will refrain from using "summoned lightning to (do such and such)". After this next battle, DPH will do some training to (can't say without giving away too many spoilers). Rodlox, ok, but I will not end this battle until you post. Winterwolf, one small point of continuity: the hearing protection devices do not allow the wearers to hear a thing while they are turned on. Winterwolf, can you send me a rewrite of that small part about how Charles gave the orders in email? Maybe Charles gave the signal to turn off the hearing protection devices, gave the orders, and told everyone to turn the devices back on or find some other means for Charles to give the orders. Rodlox, make sure that you do not have the same problem.
**END RP RELATED**

Did I detect another de-lurker in the room? If so, welcome to the CR.

I am going to try this week to see if I can get to work for Acxiom Corporation as a temporary. From what I have been told, that is my best route (from current point of view) to get the job I want as a computer programmer. If anyone does not know about Acxiom's location, the company is located in my hometown.

In the meantime, I worked today moving furniture up flights of stairs in the morning. My knees hurt like when I walk 3 1/2 miles. This afternoon, I had the horrible task of helping move fiberclass shower stalls up flights of stairs. One layer of gloves around my hands did not help that much and wearing a long sleave shirt did not protect me enough either (they are some cuts in that were made today.). I am wore out.

Battles:
Fox vs Robyn Canmore - 100% Fox. She has more practice controlling emotions and I suspect she is in way better shape despite pregnacy.
King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena. Definitely Jackal and Hyena. Cybernetic enhancements made Jackal and Hyena more than a match for Gargoyles.
Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf). Fang if Fang just stood back from a distance and fired at Wolf. Otherwise, Wolf would win.
Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote. Hmm. Unless Raven, Anansi, and Coyote worked well as a team, the Wierd Sisters would win hands down. Otherwise, I would flip a coin to determine the winner.
Thailog vs. Proteus. Unless Proteus would not take a bribe from or work for Thailog, there would be no fight. Otherwise, I would favor Proteus because he could become bigger than Thailog. Wait a minute, is Thailog allowed to use non projectile weapons if he has them?

**BFTS RP**
DPH created a forcefield around himself and then used to lightning to get rid of his annoying headache. He moved close to Plastique's position and extended his forcefield around her. He then used lightning to heal her.

"Get ready to receive a weapon," said DPH.

"How?" asked Plastique. A few seconds later, a portal opened above her hands and something looking like a water gun fell out. "You expect me to use this?"

"It does not shoot out water but something else." said DPH. A portal opened above DPH's hands and out dropped a gun. "I never thought I'd use this except in one-on-one combant." DPH drops the forcefield.

Jack Lombardi, Sedaka Pharo-Tse, and Issery Takuma looked surprised. From the briefing, they expected DPH NOT to carry weapons.

Plastique Saber fired her water gun and out shoot . a corrosive acid. "What is this for?" she asked.

"Try to hit their weapons and I'll do the same." said DPH. DPH started firing his gun. It shoot out bolts of pure electrical energy. The gun ran off of DPH's power so all he would have to do is recharge with lightning from time to time.

Jason Filler had been trying to use the ring. With all the noise going on, he suspected a fierce battle was raging outside. According to DPH said, all he had to do is consentrate and the speed stars weapons wouldn't work. He had trouble consentrating due to the noise and his curiosity of what was happening on the outside.

DPH had been rapid firing and having no luck hitting the weapons. Plastique had exhausted the supply of corrosive acid in the water gun but replaced it after touching the ground for a few moments. Unfortunately, they were both still being hit with the sonic cannon.

DPH recharged himself with lightning and starting firing again. DPH decided to change his strategy yet again. He was going to use the gun and attack with lightning. "Plastique, let's try working together to take out that darn sonic cannon." said DPH.

Suddenly, the flame throwers starting shooting flames at DPH and Plastique making their cooperating all but impossible.

"Damn," thought DPH, "Just when things where started to look up. Well, I guess this will reduce the damage down to my house."

DPH's headache was started to rise again so he healed himself with lightning. DPH saw Plastique's clothes catch on fire and quickly put out the flames, repaired Plastique's clothes, and healed Plastique with lightning. Suddenly, DPH's clothes caught on fire.
**END BFTS RP for now**
Will the added weapons even out the odds for Plastique's and DPH's surival?

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 08:18:30 PM
IP: max1-32.cwy.cei.net

Well work was tense today- almost had this one sorry girl cause a mutany- told her one more screw up and she's out the door. I almost hope she does. I hate being mean, but I can't take someone trying to consiously underminting my authority and my project.

Now gotta see what happens.

jenna
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 08:09:22 PM
IP: 1cust15.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

My las week here before I leave...<sighs>...
Just today I passed Fundamentals of Automation. It was the last exam I could try before leaving, so in this week all I have to do is waiting... but I'm lucky, because the beautiful people of this CR will help me passing time...
Oh, to all Americans, good Flag Day!

Kitainia:> Hey! I am glad of hearing you had the cance to see your friend Cobra. How do things go for him? Is he all right?
About "Buffy"...well, I'll wait for the next eps eagerly...

Winterwolf:> Thank you for the exam wish. It worked! :)
<<This is fun and silly at the same time by the way>> Don't tell me...I love playing chess...

Gside:> <<It helps to have your mind in the gutter. Think of a story fit only for the adult archive, and
you've got it. >> Ok, probably I seem a total moron now...but I still am not able to appreciate the joke. I mean, I guessed that without the "Against" my phrase meant something different from what I intended...and I can imagine more or less what kind of misunderstanding is involved...but I still can't see how and why...

Spacebabie:> Sata/Demona in kitchen? Well, I remember that Sata once or twice showed good cooking abilities...while I really can't see Demona cooking, it requires patience...;)

Niamhgold:> Well, here in Italy it is already the 14th, so...HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Sata/Demona chess playing. Well, if Sata has never played chess before (while probably Demona has, in his life), Demona would win, sure. But if Sata had a chance to play a while...well, chess is another game that requires cold mind and patience, and Demmie has little of both...
Battles: Interesting, let's see...
1) Fox Vs. Robyn: Equal odds. Robyn is probably harder than Fox today, but Fox has magic. It could end in every way...
2) Thailog/Proteus: Proteus can turn in everything he wants...and he doesn't turn in stone by day...
3) Arthur/Griff Vs. Jackal/Hyena: Hmmm...Hyena has always been one of my favorites...and in the Ultra Pack version, the twins have some interesting abilities...but Arthur and Griff are the "Good ones", after all...they can't lose, isn't it? ;)
4) Weird Sisters Vs. Tricksters? Equal odds, and a very interesting battle to see...I sligtly propend for the Tricksters, anyway...
5) Wolf Vs. Fang: Hm, their powers are quite comparable, although different...but Wolf has always shown a total lack of tactical smartness and a strong tendency to charge head-on without caring what is before him...while Fang is a little (just a little, mind it..) smarter.
Oh, I sent you a Email a couple of days ago...did you catch it?

Aaron:> <<Once again, your pro-Sata bias is coloring your
interpretation.>> Yeah, I am Commander of the 3rd Battalion of the Sata Sword and Testosterone Armored Division...<grins> I hope it is not a problem...I mean, we all have our favorites, isn't it? Anyway, my original question involved a head-to-head duel between them, with no external interference...and I said a couple of times that it had to be considered a hypotesis, because for sure Demona was not to play fairly, and on the other side Sata has powerful and trusted allies...and she bows to the opponent before the fight only as it is practical...;)
Abut your tattoo...I'm sorry, but I couldn't see it. I tried the link you posted, but that image and a couple of others didn't download...a shame, I was curious.
<<Does Steel Wool come from really tough sheep? >> And you have no idea of how hard is to shear them...;)

Flameboy78:> Well, you probably won't read it...but welcome here, and I hope you'll decide to stay.

I'll be around here for a while.

Ciao a tutti!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 07:22:29 PM
IP: h213-20-44.mi2.albacom.net

Hey!!!
You don't know me, but after reading your fics for some time, I must say that you all are doing a great job. I realy like the Time Dancer series, and I've read all of season one, part of two, and am downloading 3 every time there is a new story. That art is fantastic, and I would like to see this web sight last for years to come. Don't expect me to read any replies to this not in the comment room, as I don't check this part of the sight much :-). BTW, could you mention a BRYCE in one of your stories... please!!! :-). thanks.
Flameboy78 - [flameboy78@netscape.net]
Cupertino, CA, USA
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 06:37:42 PM
IP: c466281-b.stcla1.sfba.home.com

AIRWALKER - SAILOR MOON

-Mercury's voice had changed too. Didn't like it either.

-The new eps are Sailor Moon S

-The doom tree thread (I LOVE ANN AND ALAN!) was filler eps for Sailor Moon R and it has already aired. (R was the Rubius/Diamond thread and Doom Tree, they have already aired all of R).

- Videos - They have released first season tapes up to the point where they kill Queen Beryl. They also have a few of the movies out but I cant remember which ones I have seen in English or Japanese. O.O

Hope that helps a bit.
CrzyDemona
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 04:02:53 PM
IP: 209.150.94.56

Thought for the Day: Does Steel Wool come from really tough sheep?

Shadowrider><<especially because you implicitly admit that Demmie CAN'T defeat Sata in a honest fight,>> Once again, your pro-Sata bias is coloring your interpretation. I admit nothing of the kind. I merely said Demona is smart enough *not* to fight fair. Certainly smart enough not to be hidebound by a rigid code of conduct that leaves her at a disadvantage. Honor is simply another way of limiting oneself. And yes, as several people have already confirmed, I do have a Demona tattoo. If things are working right, click my name to see it. The picture is about halfway down the page.

Robby>Well hey, one psycho redhead to another... But seriously, I thought a Dragon Slave would be a better illustration of the destructive potential of magic the one of those little fireballs the Archmage tossed around. As for G'nolga, you're probably the only person who knows what I'm riffing on, and it does seem like something Demona would do.

David G> I dunno. Honestly, have we ever seen Dracon be subtle? He was always more of a charge straight in, consequences be damned kinda guy.

Demmie/Sata chess match> Well, chess originated in India, if I remember right, but I don't know if it made it to Japan in time for Sata to learn. However (C-3PO voice) "I suggest a new strategy Sata. Let the psycho win."

Mara> Did you get that pic I sent you?

Spacebabie> Today on Iron Chef, Demona vs. Sata! Great, now I can't get the image of Demona bashing someone with a giant battle spatula out of my head. ;) As for the fights, lessee..
1. Fox v. Robyn: One on one, I say Robyn. Fox is probably getting a bit soft, between the pregnancy and the relative security she lives in. Robyn is still out living life on the edge, both hunted and hunting, and is still in prime shape. However, if it comes down to allies, Fox all the way.
2. Thailog v. Proteus: I say they elect not to fight, join forces, and create havoc for our heroes until one double-crosses the other.
3. The terrible twins v. King Arthur and Griff: Unless Excaliber really does make the weilder invincible, I think the cyborgs in five minutes.
4. Weird Sisters v. the three tricksters: Tough call, the Sisters have power, but the tricksters have flare. Tricksters, in a thoroughly comical and aggrivating way.
5. Wolf v. Fang: (Hmmm, shades of a Morganverse story here) I'm tempted to give this one to wolf. I mean, a psycho against a petty criminal. Except that Fang can take off and cook Wolf from a relatively safe position. Fang turns wolf into a charcoal briquet.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 03:38:14 PM
IP: ppp-138.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

** Enter Niamhgold **

Hi, gang! What's my favorite CR up to?

Winterwolf: ** Hugz ** Thank you so much for the b-day card! It was so thoughtful! Methinks I'll be brining in some cake for you tomorrow ;) Got your e-mail about "Nevermore," too--but glad you've been working on getting sleep! :) ** Hugz again **

Xanatos vs. Dracon: Now, I know this has been said, but definitely Xanatos. What can Dracon's hitmen do against the XCG, Owen (even if he doesn't revert to Puck), Fox, and a band of protective gargoyles? (As much as Goliath dislikes Xanatos, the guy's a notch above Tony). Plus, Xanatos has got battle armor. Really _cool_ battle armor. >:)

Sata vs. Demona. I'm not sure if Sata would win at chess--chess is a little more British. And Demona was constantly in the company of MacBeth (who was sort of a chess prodigy in City of Stone part-something, when he played against Gruoch), so she probably learned it from him. Demona's got the cunning needed for chess.
As for a cook off? Sata, most definitely :) I just can't picture Demmie in the kitchen with an apron and a spatula. She seems more of a takeout person to me ;)

Okay, gang, how about these few?
(A) Fox vs. Robyn Canmore
(B) Thailog vs. Proteus
(C) King Arthur/Griff vs. Jackal/Hyena
(D) Weird Sisters vs. Raven, Anansi, and Coyote
(E) Wolf vs. Fang (without Hakon backing Wolf)

I'll let these simmer around here for a bit...

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 02:05:02 PM
IP: lac-flex177.ncia.net

I'm not suprised that I'm not the only one who can't stand the new Serena

But I can't believe they changed Amy's! ::Cries:: The first Amy sounded a lot like the original, except for the accent. they kept Lia, Luna and Artemis and brought back the first Raye and Darien

Also Back is the villinous voice of Zoicite/Emerald as Kaolinite, they also didnt change the name of Tomoe

Yup the dialouge is very similar to the Sub.

I couldent go out by the pool yesterday due to an ant problem
these ants were Males and future Queensperforming their mating flight,yup the winged variety
Sata Vs Demona at chess>>>Close game but I believe Sata will be the one shouting Checkmate...but another question would be...who would win in a cook off?
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:33:44 PM
IP: user-37kaos7.dialup.mindspring.com

Jenna> *screams like a girl* OMGaawww! I love that bumper sticker!! That's so hilarious and sooo TRUE! ;D Merci millle fois!

Kit and others> glad you enjoyed the chicken jokes. =) I laughed so hard when I read them!

I'm taking a basic french class this month. gaw, I'm so foreign language retarded! *falls over* I do have my own private tutor though *winks and smiles at Denis* Unless he gives me BAD words to write down and the professor sees it! *gives Denis ~the~ look* *L* (I didn't know it was a bad word... *blushes 15 shades of red) Bad to the bone, I tell 'ya.... *tickles Den* just remember, hon.. paybacks are a b!tch *evil grin*

Twilight Camp begins today (for Cub Scouts). I'm the Junior Staff Advisor - I'll be supervising 25+ boys with the average age of around 13... running loose in the woods pretending to be assisting the session leaders.... Shoot me now. *digs frantically for the Valium*

I FINALLY heard back from the surgeon's office. She attempted to make the consultation appt. as late as July 11th. After a few well chosen phrases, the appt. is now set for June 22. They're going to be doing surgery on my stomach, in hopes that will fix the problems I have.
I've been trying to get this taken care of since February.

Rev Attila> *L* you squirrely cat! Scooby and Shaggy were just regular teenagers of the 70's ;) *scratches behind your ears and slips some catnip under your nose* 'tite chat

GB> RE: "Things you won't hear southerners say" - won't hear in upper New Orleans.. yeah riiiight *winks* I've lived in Louisiana, remember? *chuckles*

Zut! time to go.... Au revoir!

Jannie
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:34:06 AM
IP: 64.240.37.194

No Flames, PLEASE.

***BEGIN SHAMELESS PLUG***

Vinnie and Sora were finally starting to relax, but then a certain shapeshifting maniac escaped from New Olympus...

From the mind of Fred "Pistoff" Kerns...

RISING SUN: SMOKE and MIRRORS pt.1!!!

****END SHAMELESS PLUG****

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 09:16:21 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Gside- You want Alan's flute theme you say? Can deliver!

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/loxwood/412/smmidi/flute2.mid

(I would have just put the addy into the URL box, but geocities and fortunecity have a problem with direct links to midis...)

Ahhh... Been a long while since I did anything as CR DJ...
Robby the CR DJ
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 04:24:22 AM
IP: spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com

Shadowrider> <<Sorry, I really didn't catch [the need for "against"]>>: It helps to have your mind in the gutter. Think of a story fit only for the adult archive, and you've got it.

Fire Storm> <>: Good, but now you need to unscrew you skull, sprinke the seeds liberally about your brain (gotta love pre-hoed soil), then replace the skull. And be sure to water thoroughly every day, and try to spend some time outside. And before you know it, little buds will start whispering inspitation in your ears. This oddness brought to you by Chia-Genius.

DPH> <<where I can buy a homing device that I can leave in a car>>: Lo-Jack?
Maybe it's just me, but I think you may need to fnd a couple other ways to say "summon lightning." Maybe something like "brought down lightning from the skies" or maybe even assume that it's being summoned and just say "attacked * with lightning" or "recharged * with." Sorry about that, but after seeing the same phrase used many times with little variation, my mind starts threatening various other bodily organs.

Shadowrider> <<Do[es Aaron] really have a Demona tattoo>>: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/Sabledrake/g99_p19.jpg (with Mr. Weisman and Thom Adcox-Hernandez)

tR Mrs. Morgan> <<bonus points available for figuring it out>>: Nah, just research. It was all in the first two lines of the entry in pantheon.org. And from a connection in the odd structure of my lexicon (!@$# Loft's Dew, further proof my lexicon is messed up), you don't appear to have done much with Yeats. I mean, after thaat whole Jericho thing, the broken wall, The burning roof and tower/And Agamemnon dead, shouldn't be too much that much more.

Gasper> <<here's hoping we see Gaspar (My name sake to an extent) and Spekkio>>: Well, Luca's there (long live the geeks), but what about the Nus? And would they be diferent colors in different dimensions?

Winterwolf> <<So did I manage to post typo free>>: Well, there is that "out of the other's view". Unless only one other person couldn't see you now, there should be an s directly next to the r.

Robby> <<The Doom Tree saga was my favorite storyline all in all because it had the least stupid filler episodes and the most interesting villains>>: Who cares about that. It's all about the flute phrase. I really want to get that progression.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 03:50:35 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

ack..I meant to say Demona would open fire INdescriminantly

Archwolf
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 01:07:35 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-04.mcmurray.nb.net

*Archwolf ducks in for a quick post*

WinterWolf>Oh hell....typo. That should have read WinterBlade, not WinterWolf. didn't mean any offense or anything.

Quickie on Sata v Demona> The reason I think Sata would defeat (notice, i don't say kill or destroy) Demona in a one on one fight is that Sata has a control of emotion that Demona has never had. Demona might win the first few exchanges, but the moment things start turn against her, she would loose it. She lets emotion guide her instead of calm and training. Granted fighting from the heart gives you some advanteages in terms of ferocity, but the one who can get inside a person's mind and defeat them mentally, will win physically I think. Now, as for why I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that fight, is again, cause the second things turn against demona, she looses it. She is the type to scratch an itch with a Nuke. She would run from Sata and pull out some blaster or something that she had hidden away, start ranting and raving about one thing or other, then open fire descriminantly.

I would say more, but my brain just told me it is going to sleep with or with out me, so I better get before i start typing gibberish.

Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 01:06:10 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-04.mcmurray.nb.net

Matthew- Brooklyn didn't forget how to speak Japanese because he and Sata had to teach each other their native languages after the gate stopped translating. He learned Japanese the HARD way, which is why he remembered it.

Shadowrider- Yes Aaron has a Demona tattoo. I seen it!

Chicken jokes- Actually a few years back there were CR jokes as told by regular posters at the S8 room, including Todd, Greg Weisman, Gorebash, and JEB... If only I could find the website...

Xanatos versus Dracon- If Xanatos was going for a leisurley stroll through the park and Dracon had a sniper on him... Otherwise, no freaking way.

Sailor Moon- Moon's new voice was bad enough, but they did indeed change Mercury's too. Oii. One touch I liked was that the original music is intact now, including the voiceover during the transformation singing out "Sailor Moon", which WAS in the Japanese version. The real test comes in the next couple days though, when things start getting WIERD.

Airwalker- A couple of random episodes from the first season of Sailor Moon are on video, but they are largely out of order and there's only a couple. They are hard to miss being neon pink with glitter on the boxes. *shudder* The Doom Tree saga (the aliens with playing cards) was the first part of the second season, Sailor Moon R, and is all out on video, in a boxed set even. The Doom Tree saga was my favorite storyline all in all because it had the least stupid filler episodes and the most interesting villains. The Doom Tree saga and the Dark Moon saga that followed it (Also part of R) have been shown many times before. Cartoon Network apparently opted to not show the rest of Sailor Moon R this time through in order to show the new episodes from Sailor Moon S and thus increase ratings.

Also, all three movies are available on video, but unless you're a true Sailor Moon fan, the R movie is the only watchable one. The later movies just ripped it off.

Timedancer being too short this season- Hey! The season isn't over just yet! Some of the best stuff is yet to come IMO! (But then again, I helped write and did all the illustration on the stuff yet to come so I'm naturally a wee bit biased...)
Robby
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 01:03:04 AM
IP: spider-wm063.proxy.aol.com

One thing I wasn't entirely sure about - Did they change the voice for Sailor Mercury too or was I just so upset about the Serena voice change that I imagined it sounded different?

It sounded to me like everyone save for Mars, Jupiter and Mask got new VAs. Which sucks cuz they all sound like the old Sailor Moon VA. As for SM's new Va.... UCK!!!! She sounds like a guy that's trying to sound like a girl and doing a horrible job of it.

What I did love, however, was that the script itself sounded more like the subtilted version, complete with Venus getting old sayings completely wrong.

QUESTION - I know that Sailor Moon has gone through a variety of series in Japan (Ex: Sailor Moon R, etc). Which series are the current new episodes coming out of?

New eps are S , I think. Dead Moon Circus is Super S and Stars is the last one. I'm not sure which series Doom Tree was...

And last Friday I was watching Sailor Moon and the main villains were these two aliens with a Tree and a deck of cards who were trying to get energy so they could live. Is that set of episodes coming out of the same series as the new episodes that started airing today or was it from a different Sailor Moon series? (Was it SM:R, or SM:S, etc.)

GB::And just out of curiosity - Are any of the dubbed Sailor Moon episodes out on Video? And if so then which series is it mainly? Only the first one, or a couple of the following ones or just a random movie here and there?

I think DIC has produced tapes of each ep that introduces a Sailor Scout (ie when Mars first comes in... Jupiter, etc) the tape that deals with the Silver Millenium when Serena finds out she's actually the Moon princess and when they battle Beryl for the last time. Also there may be a tape that introduces the Doom Tree Series. Out of the movies, R has been released in the dub with S coming out soon, (R is with Fiore and S is with the Snow lady whose name escapes me at the moment)

Mara Shinigami Cordova
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:58:59 AM
IP: spider-tp011.proxy.aol.com

DOUG - You wrote: [I never considered the viewpoint you expressed in my review of that ep, guess I was a bit too wowed by what I saw as good in the story.]

It's not that there wasn't anything good in this story; I want to make clear that there were some enjoyable aspects of this tale and that it was written out well. Brooklyn did sound like Brooklyn and the structure of the story was sound. It's just that some missed opportunities stood out to me as I went over the episode. (I just wanted to make that clear because going back over my original post, it reads incredibly negative and I'm not trying to say that the writers composed a bad story - that's not true at all. The story was good; the plot just feels like it needed a little more added to it, that's all.)

You wrote: [Come to think of it, this whole season of Timedancer has been a bit too short.]

Well actually every season of TIMEDANCER always feels way too short. Season 3 just feels it more because of Sata's absence from it overall. She (and the characterization she brought) was a huge reason for the tremendous success of Season 2 that helped to make it feel much longer than it really was.

DRACON VS XANATOS - No contest. Xanatos might take some physical damage in the first hour of a war with Dracon but after that he would destroy him on every level possible.

CRZYDEMONA - Re: Sailor Moon - You wrote: [I just watched the first ep of the new season. They got a few new voices and if you thought Serena was obnoxious before... ICK for her new voice! BLAH!]

The episode itself wasn't so bad but the voice changes did grate on me. I prefered Serena's old voice to the one she has now. It sounds too much like Luna trying to fake Serena's voice. But I guess I could get used to it.

One thing I wasn't entirely sure about - Did they change the voice for Sailor Mercury too or was I just so upset about the Serena voice change that I imagined it sounded different?

QUESTION - I know that Sailor Moon has gone through a variety of series in Japan (Ex: Sailor Moon R, etc). Which series are the current new episodes coming out of?

And last Friday I was watching Sailor Moon and the main villains were these two aliens with a Tree and a deck of cards who were trying to get energy so they could live. Is that set of episodes coming out of the same series as the new episodes that started airing today or was it from a different Sailor Moon series? (Was it SM:R, or SM:S, etc.)

And just out of curiosity - Are any of the dubbed Sailor Moon episodes out on Video? And if so then which series is it mainly? Only the first one, or a couple of the following ones or just a random movie here and there?
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:37:18 AM
IP: 2.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Hello
Really quick post and then it's off to the fics:)
To any who are interested I'm looking for a proofreader for my fics. If anybody wants the job email me at brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com under the subject: Proofreader
Thanks in advance!!!!!!:)

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:30:54 AM
IP: usr2.cqc.com

By the Dragon! I have so many e-mails now that it just took me an hour to read them all and reply! *wipes forehead* But keep writing! I love it! Must sleep...OH WAIT! One more thing, I'm trying to get my own e-mail address so it'll actually be in my name and not my dad's. YEA!
SOROW
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:20:45 AM
IP: dll2a030-0895.splitrock.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR followed by the typo police**

Hello! It's time for my daily post! The typo police are reviewing my post because of my many typos lately. So I have to post this without a single typo or I'll be auctioned away to the highest bidder. ;)

Archwolf> <grandparents 50th> Major congratulations to them! Glad you had a good time. <RP> I see I made it into your RP. Funny I don't remember being a female character. ;)

Mark Graham> Welcome to the CR! It looks like your questions have been answered but feel free to stop by and chat at your leisure.

Niamhgold> I've recently replied and I finished reading "Nevermore"! I included my quick comments and brief review in email. Thanks for your kind words and concern! ^_^

Reverend Attila> I'll never look at Scooby-Doo the same way again. Just kidding! Good list for a laugh. :)

Caliope> <camp counselor> Fun stuff! I was a counselor myself a few summers ago. You get to play with the kids, practically as a kid yourself, without having to pay to play with the kids. ;) Of course you have responsibilities, but I remember it being more fun than work. **Winterwolf joins you for a quick dance around the CR.**

Xanatos vs. Dracon> With his plans and scheming I'll pick Xanatos all the way.

Fire Storm> You like to tease us don't you? Are we going to vote on the new pictures for the CR? <seed packet> The power of the seed packet. Once it starts growing you might have to feed it with your blood if you aren't careful. :)

Shadowrider> <exam> Good luck on your exam! <Demona and Sata playing chess> Does either one know how to play chess? Well I imagine Demona probably knows how to play chess. Sata might know or she might not. It isn't like we see the gargoyles playing chess all the time. Okay. I think Demona would win a game of chess because she probably knows more about the game and potentially played in the past. Sata might fall prey to the forking attacks of the knights and the woes of the backward pawn. This is fun and silly at the same time by the way.

Tim Phipps> Welcome back!

Rodlox> <anyone seen Cassandra or any of the other old posters?> Are you saying Cassandra is old? :p

Ironwolf> Welcome back! I see the evil grip of RL has got a merciless hold on you.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf moves to the eastern side of the house out of the other's view and within moments is partially surrounded by four attackers. The high frequency sounds cause him to spasm in pain due to his keen and sensitive sense of hearing. He traces a symbol around his ears effectively stopping him from hearing any sound. Winterwolf flips backward away from the shooting jets of fire that threaten to end his life. Taking a quick assessment of his condition he notes his fur is singed but he is otherwise okay.

"Joanne blast him with you cannon while we advance on him with the flame throwers." Charles ordered. "The rest of you help me burn this little silver haired boy."

"I guess some people don't like kids." Winterwolf quipped. He guessed that the illusion was still masking his appearance.

The short woman fired her cannon at Winterwolf while two men and one woman each one armed with a flame thrower boxed Winterwolf in and drove him closer to the house. In a matter of minutes he would be an extra crispy Winterwolf if something didn't happen.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

So did I manage to post typo free? :) I'm off for the night! See you all tomorrow!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:11:18 AM
IP: dialup-209.246.109.196.newyork2.level3.net

Sorry, Rodlox, no problem I figured I'd offer a trade anyway if anyone was interested.
Gasper
MN, US
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:01:39 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Rodlox----No prob. I figured, just an offer.

Anonymous
Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:00:52 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

howdy everyone i dragin myself back
i know i have been gone for a while but heck life been kickin my ummm back end, and we all know she fights dirty and thats the only reasson she has been kickin my tail

i was looking for a liitle help. Are there any spellsinger fans in the room? If so have you heard of a band called bitter sweet that has done music based on the books?

last any one going to dragon con in alanta GA? just thought i would ask since i going to be there

*A wickedly clawed hand drags ironwolf kickin and screaming back into RL
Ironwolf
Monday, June 12, 2000 11:47:17 PM
IP: host-216-78-82-102.cha.bellsouth.net

Just posted a story called _Fight_ to the garg archives - about the Sata-vs-Demona fight we've been talking about in here.....here's one of the more "potty-mouth" sayings in it:

with her tail rushing under Sata�s legs.

{sorry folks, i just finished doing some MST3Ks before i typed that}.

**RP NOTICE**
the BfTS will be posted tomorow, guys - promise....

the The Ten Saga....i was asked to wait, and that's what i'll do. {provided, that is, that we aren't attacked - if we are, i'll fight}.
**END**

query: has anyone seen Cassandra or any of the other old posters? {that sounded bad too, didn't it?}.

Gasper: don't take this the wrong way...but if you want to read our fanfics, you don't have to trade...{or am i misunderstanding your statement?}.

Rodlox
Monday, June 12, 2000 11:42:33 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

**Mecord staggers out of the closet door, obviously so tired that he didn�t realize that it is improper to enter somewhere from a closet, unless you come from Narnia of course.**

Hi all, I just spent nine hours at my new job watching training videos and cramming my brain with ten times the information it can normally hold. I have to do it again tomorrow. At least I�m getting paid.

Johnny Cat & Mark Graham>> Welcome, hope you stay a while.

Archwolf>> I have seriously thought about splitting my story into one more part, but after looking over the sequence of events I thinks I�ll decide against it. The first half of this part has little action and mostly builds up to the climax. I suppose I could alter it, but as it stands I would hate to have a story that only draws out the readers anticipation of the final events. I worked on it for a good portion of Saturday and made a lot of progress. I think I�m going to abridge some of the unnecessary events and dialogue and maybe add a little more drama. I feel that I�m better at the action sequences and there are only going to be two and both of those will be towards the end. My outlook on them is good though. If I didn�t have to compete with this new job I would likely finish it this week.

Kit>> <Thanks for okaying this color> Since when did I become the interior decorator around here? :) You don�t need my permission. $<Hope you like the Lloky bit above, I'm worried I didn't correctly write her character.> Well, perhaps she sounded a mite tougher than usual, but if the guy perhaps reminded her of a certain murderer or made her mad in some way I can see her doing that. Good job, I especially liked the rope trick, very Lloky. I sent you and Doug another e-mail that has a key element of her background that may help. $

Joxter>> Demona vs. Sata>> I can�t rightly say who would win because too much depends on the given circumstances (given the right scenario Dracon could even beat Xanatos). But in Demona�s defense I�d like to say a few things. In The Mirror Elisa did soundly wup Demona�s posterior. On the other hand, Puck�s spell eradicated her human element. As far as Elisa was concerned, she was always a Gargoyle, all her memories were Gargoyle, and when she was trained to fight, she was trained to fight other Gargoyles. When Goliath taught her to glide this only gave her one more advantage over Demona, who was no different than any other criminal to Elisa because of her change. I could go on as to why Elisa beat Demona in this ep. but I won�t. When on equal grounds, Elisa is just the better combatant. But if human Elisa were to face gargoyle Demona in solo hand to hand, I would give advantage to Demona.
In The City of Stone the original hunter was an expert fighter that Demona did kill in her old and feeble age. I admit she had have Macbeth�s aid, but that was before her youth was restored. After the immortality thing, she was fairly invincible. As for her battles with Macbeth, well he has gone through several centuries of training and has even shown Goliath up on an occasion or two.
Oh, in Reckoning, Demona didn�t fight Delilah that I can remember, she fought Thailog.
I�m not saying your wrong and Demona�s the greatest warrior ever. Not by a long shot. I�m just saying that the eps. seem to show outwitting Demona is easier that out muscling her. She does come up with some devious plots, but they usually fall short and she doesn�t seem too good in improvising them.

*****RP*****
On the roof of the Time-Warner Building in Atlanta four heroes approach a waiting Dragon. Bardic looks over the solemn faces.
�More trouble I take it.�
�You could say that,� replied Mecord, �Right now we have to decide what to do next. There�s a lot going on, what with the Ten showing up.�
�And ShadowWolf working for Thailog,� added Winterblade.
�Don�t forget the impending invasion from Hell from underneath our feet,� Warpmind jumped in.
�Not to mention the battle on the Avatar and we still haven�t heard from Lloky,� Bardic shook his head.
Senthet rolled her eyes, �So where do we go from here? We have our own missions to fulfill, remember.�
Mecord thought a moment before answering, �It may be time to go our separate ways; each taking the mission that seems the most important to us. What say you?�
Bardic spoke first, �The problem of the Ten seems most immediate, my Dragons and I shall investigate and watch.�
Senthet poked Mec in the chest, �Our mission is your responsibility, you should not delay it any longer.�
The Elf sighed, �I know, but our team is scattered.�
�Then I shall gather them, on my own time.�
�Fine. Winterblade, Warpmind, how about you two?�

On the Avatar. The sounds of metal upon metal could be hears. Three cat sized dragons stealthily crept towards the noise. As they rounded the corner they saw a lone elven warrior defending himself against two saber wielding demons. The elf was slowly loosing ground. His heal brushed a still form lying behind him. The contact seemed to infuriate the elf and he redoubled his attack.
Kreg leapt into the air talons extended. With one swift motion the dragon had slit a demon�s throat. Kyrel dispatched the other demon by spiting acid that melted through the helspawn�s abdomen. Thicarrn looked at the small dragons blankly. He turned and looked at his sister lying on the floor. Then his eyes rolled back into his head and he collapsed.
Mery lifted her head. In the newfound silence, battle could be heard from behind them. The dragons morphed into a human form. The two women picked up the battle weary and injured elves and followed the sound to its source.
*****End RP*****

Mecord
Monday, June 12, 2000 11:31:06 PM
IP: usr19.mtwest.net

****Begin RP--The Ten Saga******

Setting his ship down, he checked to make sure he had his equipment ready and waiting. He grabbed the pouch of precious Senzu, and tucked it into a pocket within the armor. Looking at the scouter, he picked it up, but then remember Kami's words. Dropping, it, he lowered the landing ramp, and walked out. Less then a mile from the battle field. Powering up to his full level, yet unrecorded, but still higher then the 18K he'd started with in the Room of Time and Spirit, he blasted up into the air, and in under 10 seconds landed by the other warriors.

"Boy, lotsa people here. DW, good to see you again, hope we got a little stronger. Like the 'bots too. They new?"

[Affirmative.]

"Man of few words. I like that. The rest of ya, I'll get to know. Name's Gasper, and I'm here to do some damage. We got a plan here?" Looking around the battle field, he stretched out with his senses, and found the other group of beings. *One for sure is human, the waitress, and Kami only knows what ever she's doing here.* He thought. *Demons also. Haven't seen to many of those lately. There's a strong pull out there from one of them.* Turning, he looked to the other two, one he could sense was a clone off the bat. As it didn't make him happy, he still welcomed the help. His next focus came to 4 herself. *She's not grown in power, only in anger.*

"Well, if we're gonna have us a rumble, I say we get it started soon, I'd like to be home before dinner..." With that, he flared his Ki to it's max, and got into his fighting position.
*******END RP*********

Dern freshmen pre-registration. I'm missing the SM, and I atleast wanted to see one day of it. WEll, hope it's good.
Xanatos vs. *Chuckles* Dracon?
A.) Xanatos in a second. There is no fight, Dracon would be out before he started planning. In fact, I bet Dracon was a Xanatos target for a long time.
B.) As previously stated, Davey boy has the resources, Dracon doesn't.
C.) Davey boy is subtle, cunning, not headstrong to rush into things like Tony. Need I say more? Oh, and
D.) Illuminati membership that Davey has, could be useful..

Quick question*******NO FLAME WAR PLEASE!!********* Anyone reading the Left Behind series? I need to grab the new book, but I don't get Paid till Friday...but atleast tell me one thing. Does this one have Nicolai raising from the dead...and does Chiam die?

Let's see. RP related, LET"S GET READYYYYYYYYY TO RUMBLEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! SOrry, I like my fights.

Fanfic by CR people----If you could, I'd be interested in reading some of your guys' fanfic. I'm a writer myself, and I'm willing to trade. Send to my e-mail below.

Chrono Cross---I forgot to lead into this after the question was posed, but here's the 411:
---Due out August of 2000, which is why I'm getting a PSX, for that and for Castlevania Symphony of the Night.
---Takes place 20 years after the original game Chrono Trigger.
---Focus's on more then just time travel, but Dimension hopping, though here's hoping we see Gaspar (My name sake to an extent) and Spekkio. Heh heh.
---40(!) Characters that are playable.
---The recently released Japanese CT for PSX has some scenes that lead into CC (Chrono Cross).
---Mitsuda has once again provided an AWESOME soundtrack, with traces of his CT glory.

For more information, check out:

http://www.thegia.com

WEll, that's it from me. Talk to you all later.
Gasper - [skeltner3243@vax2.winona.msus.edu]
MN, US
Monday, June 12, 2000 11:28:35 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

Dracon vs. Xanatos > no contest no matter how you look at it; Dracon is a personal coward ; ) The type to bully his underlings and walk-talk big, but knuckle under the minute the real alpha dog shows up. And Xanatos is nothing if not the alpha dog ; )

Doug > now, see, it's that limited humanocentric viewpoint ... And what's _wrong_ with manipulation? Goodness, I bet you even think the Illuminati are bad guys! ; )

Warpmind > I like to think of myself as a 'big picture' kind of gal, yeah ; )

Gside > well, I know there is a connection between the Dragon, Lylth, and Hecate (who was the mother of the Weird Sisters in my universe). There will be more on that later, as we find out who the woman was meeting Demona at the end (she's already appeared in a previous story, btw, bonus points available for figuring it out <g>).

Stuff > today was a bonanza! _Finally_ got my contributor's copy of GURPS Villains, a box of Gargoyles stuff that Tim had ordered (adding placemats, a duffel bag, and two new hats to my collection), and a bigass cardboard thing from Lexy (thanks, Lexy, it is totally cool and I will be getting the rest of the shipping $$ to you soon, I swear!). Made it worth being woken up early by the damn Little League loudspeaker next door at the park!

Update > "The Dissidents: Coalition" is progressing very well; I did ten pages last night! Hopefully saying so won't jinx me and give me instant writer's block. As Tim and Becca are going away for the weekend, I will have beaucoup time to write and if all goes well will have it done and posted by Sunday.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:22:13 PM
IP: 07-141.009.popsite.net

I just dropped in to let you know that I didn't dissapear off the face of th planet. I've been visit the room but I've hadn't had the time to post. I'll be by later.
Tim Phipps
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:20:54 PM
IP: s10-onawa.pionet.net

Hello,
<Demona v.s. Sata>
Sata hands down! She is calmer than Demona. Demona may have 1000 yrs on Sata but Demona's emotions are more intense.
She in the end of coarse woudn't die but definately not get bruised.
<Janine>
I'll be on later drop me a line
<Rodlox>
Same if you want
<Winterwolf>
Email me
That's about it for now

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 09:44:02 PM
IP: usr2.cqc.com

Sata vs. Demona> Demona whistles, and two dozen heavily-armed goons jump Sata. When the judges try to disqualify Demona for cheating, they are the next victims.

Xanatos vs. Dracon> Dracon sends Xanatos a death threat involving his wife and child. Xanatos' mother-in-law learns of it. Wyvern is evacuated; New York becomes a crater.

Real post at some point in the future...
Wilek
Monday, June 12, 2000 09:05:16 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

**RP HERE**

In Ankara, Gubio is helping Erin and her family clean up the kitchen after dinner while Bessus stands nearby talking on a telephone. "Yes, we only need some desert night," he is saying. "Can you provide us with it? Yes, of course we have the payment. That's high, but we can manage. Alright, fine, we'll be there tomorrow. Bye." He hangs up and looks at Erin. "Vincent will see us and sell you the herb Alex's friend requires." "That's good," Erin says. "Yeah," Gubio agrees. "We ought to call Doug and Kit, tell them this news." "I recommend you wait till you have the herb to do that just in case," Mary recommends. "You never know when something will get in the way of things. Then there's the matter of long distance." "Mother's right," chuckles Hassan. "By the way, Bess, you seem concerned. What troubles you?" "Just something about the way Vincent spoke to me," Bessus replies, frowning. "It seemed like something else was on his mind." "It's always that way when I talk to him," says Fasil. "Running the Underground City's daily business must be very difficult." "I bet," Gubio agrees, grinning as he puts away a dish. Erin frowns as she dries off another, looking at her hand. "What's wrong?" Gubio asks. "That strange ring I found during dinner," she replies. "It's gone. Did it fall in the disposal?" "We better look and see," Fasil shrugs. "I'll get my tools." "Probably did fall in there," sighs Mary. "I've lost many rings to that blasted machine myself." Erin nods that she has too. "Did Alex give you that ring?" Patty asks. "No I didn't," Alex answers, frowning. "We're not engaged. Not yet." "Maybe you should talk about it," suggests Mary. "You two seem to have such good chemistry and all." "Mom!" Erin grimaces. "Only joking," Mary chuckles, causing Gubio and Erin to look at each other with rolled eyes and frowns. "You guys will have to forgive Mom," Hassan says. "She's a romantic." "Whatever," Gubio replies, beginning to dry and stack dishes with slightly more fervor now. Erin does the same, shaking her head slowly. Bessus and Mary look on and exchange grins with Fasil as he comes back into the room.

Meanwhile outside the building, Kieran Flanagan is at a payphone talking to Abdullah. "I've set the explosives," he says. "The whole place is full of them now. The people inside, including your dishonorable family members, now have only forty-five minutes to live." "Excellent work," Abdullah laughs evilly in reply. "You'll earn twice your usual fee for this, Mr. Flanagan." "Thank you, guv'nah," the Irishman chuckles. "Proud to have been of service. See you back at the base." He hangs up the phone and turns around to head back to his Land Rover, then stops as he finds a ten-year old girl glaring at him. "What?" he asks. "What are you looking at?" The girl only smiles. "You will come with me," she orders. "Now." Flanagan chuckles. "Listen, don't get me wrong. I do like children. But right now I have somewhere else I really need to be." "Yes, you do, troublemaker," Lloky snaps. "You have to disarm your bombs. Right now." Flanagan gasps, dropping his jaw. "Why should I? And how do you know about them anyway?" Lloky responds by looking him in the eye. "Trust me, if you don't do as I wish I can and will seriously hurt you." Flanagan is about to laugh when he sees the look in her eyes and realizes she's telling the truth. "Alright, little girl," he grimaces. "You lead the way." She points at the building he just wired to explode and he gulps. "I thought you were going to take me back in there." Lloky nods and smiles, motioning him to follow her in. Flanagan thinks of running and is about to turn around and do so when a rope lashes out and ties around his leg. "What the bloody hell?" he screams as it trips him and he falls onto his stomach. "If I have to drag you, so be it," Lloky replies, then begins pulling him into the building with the rope's other end as the screen goes blank.

**END FIRST BIT OF THIS POST'S RP**

Hi everyone. Well, another week has begun. It's been proceeding pretty typically so far. Good thing that a great weekend preceded it. Yeah, it rained here, but that didn't matter. The Republic of Texas biker rally was in town, and I got to see Cobra and a few other old friends. Now I'm seeing some more friends, in here. :) Guess I'll start things off with a bit of reviewing.

**SPOILERS AHEAD**

Gone in Sixty Seconds: Saw this Friday night with Doug, and like him I enjoyed it. The characters are strong, well-developed, and interesting, helped by the actors playing them, the great dialogue, and the decent script. The plot of the movie isn't so great (pretty predictable in fact), but you won't notice that until after you watch it because of the actors and characters holding your attention along with the interplay of emotions and the very well-done stunts. The movie also has great comedy bits scattered throughout it, especially in Nicolas Cage's relationship with Eleanor (having just bought a car that we don't want to act up on us, Doug and I could really relate to them, see the film and you'll know why :). So like Doug, I recommend this movie. Go see it and enjoy. :) Coming up this weekend- reviews of Shaft and Titan AE.

Christine: Nice work on Lylth. Your detailing of the gargs' origin as a race and their past glories astounded me with both the excellent writing and the many enjoyable surprises built into it (gargs wooing each other like birds in ancient times, gargs bringing down a mastodon, the gargs' cities, etc.). Really liked the character development that was done on Demona in her reaction to it all. Lylth was a very intriguing character as well, especially when her manipulation was revealed at the end. Definitely a well-detailed and very strong female character one does not want to get on the wrong side of. Liked the mythological developments in her story a lot. Good development on the Dragon too, I wonder if he was Gustav Sevarius the whole time and not just in this story. :) Also wondering who and what exactly the entity that's backing humans is going to turn out to be. Looking forward to the results of all the good developments in this story, thanks for the entertainment of them. Except for the deaths of Ventura and Jason Canmore, who I liked as characters, this story was great. :) Hope you soon have better luck with the people publishing your books.

**END SPOILERS, ON TO REPLIES**

Mecord: $ Hope you like the Lloky bit above, I'm worried I didn't correctly write her character. <grins, crosses fingers for luck> $ Thanks for okaying this color, it shall be used from now on. :)

Spike: That's a very good painting, thanks for posting it. A talent I never knew Jeff McNelly had while he lived. :(

Shadowrider: You're welcome on the story, I enjoyed reading it. Looking forward to your next one, whenever it comes. Congrats on the good birthday and on getting to see the first ep of Buffy, glad you enjoyed it. Don't worry, things do get better after it. Much better. :)

Patrick: Good filk, almost as good as those that made it into Avalon Mists by the deadline. Still have to finish reading the latest issue, by the way. Hope to be able to get back to it soon. <sigh>

SJ: I'd thank you for the bad news about Now and Again, but I don't usually thank people for bad news. <sigh> Like we fans of good shows needed more evidence of networks' evilness and apathy. Just for this (and the cancellation of Early Edition), I'm boycotting CBS. :( Fox too. If you've heard about their awful-looking and extremely sexist new teen drama Opposite Sex (which basically has 300 girls and only 3 guys at the same high school, something that would never happen IRL, and seems to have the potential for a lot of tiresome typical teen jokes), you know why.

Jannie: Thanks for the hilarious chicken joke bit. I've only seen one better. (Christine knows where that is).

Demona vs. Sata: With the immortality involved, I agree that Demona is going to win no matter what. She always survives. But in a fight where it's not counted from the beginning, or one where the first death is all that counts with no possibility for revenge, or it's not to the death? Sata would win that sort of battle, as she has the higher level of natural stamina and skill. Yeah, Demona could use magic in her favor, but in the Gargs Universe it takes time for anyone but fay to do spells. Time enough for Sata to disrupt the casting. So unless Demona had something ready beforehand, she'd be better off fighting physically instead of trying spellcasting. Besides, who says she would anyway? When have we ever known Demona to be a skilled and tactical genius in a straight physical fight?

Dracon vs. Xanatos: Xanatos has the cool exo-armor, the killer robots, the karate black belt, the most money, the magic-wielding wife and child to help him, the clan and Elisa to also aid him if he asks (they hate Dracon enough), and a lot of resources. Dracon has Glasses and a bunch of other armed thugs. I don't think there's much of a contest here. (Though David G's recent jokes about it are very funny. :)

Welcome Jonny Cat, Mark Graham, and all other newcomers. Hope y'all like it here. :)

SOROW: You see? I knew you'd beat the depression! :) Congratulations. Hope it doesn't come back for a good long time. <grin>

Villain vs. Anti-Hero: Well, the latter is usually defined as a protagonist character in a story who has likable qualities about him and does good things, but at the same time is evil from many viewpoints. The Punisher is one good example, he fights crime and protects the public from it, but he does his work by killing people and doesn't really care about the number of people he saves as much as the number of bad guys he wipes. Villains, on the other hand, are motivated to be evil all the way. Nothing they do is good for anybody except them. So the Punisher brutally kills some Mafia boss in cold blood, but by doing it he saves lives, caring for others somewhere deep down. Whereas a villain like Demona will kill someone in cold blood, and it won't matter to them in the least whether or not they're helping others by doing it. They just want to wipe him out. The Punisher would kill the Mafia boss to save lives, track him down from the get-go and ice him. Demona would do it because he's human and not worth being born according to her worldview, her killing of him would probably also be random. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can pick out the difference between the two characters. Thus the basic definition of villain and anti-hero in literature is illustrated, along with the distinction between the two. I'm sure other definitions abound, but I unfortunately don't know them. :(

Archwolf: <Thanks for the well-wishes, things honestly on the mend> You're welcome, may they only continue to improve.

Airwalker: Good comments on the last Timedancer ep. I remember being disappointed with the lack of development on Celer too, but I didn't pick out that on Brooklyn till you made me think about it. Your constructive criticism is very much appreciated by this reader, hope it's seen that way by the writers as well. If they can remedy their mistakes, the good stories this season will be even better. <fingers crossed>

<scans CR again, unable to believe post was so short> Well, well, that's everything I wanted to reply to. And I can't think of any other new topics to mention. Except maybe to plug the excellent RPG I've been playing recently, Wild Arms 2. If you like RPGs with great plots and characters as well as excellent graphics and a magic system with pretty much unlimited powerful spellcasting, this game is definitely for you. I've been enjoying it for some time now, except for the confusing puzzles that practically require a strategy guide to solve. :) Hope I will have time to play it more soon, and come in here again soon, but of course there are many other things on my mind. I guess I better go get to work on some of them. Good seeing everyone in here during the brief free moment. Later!

**THE RP RETURNS�RIGHT NOW :)**

In the Time-Warner Building's security room, Shap and Shauna have just been confronted by three very dangerous foes. Shauna is forced to take on both Richard Simmons and Susan Powter as Shap and Pat Robertson square off circling each other around a large table with broom and cross-of-unholy-fire held in front of their faces. "You know," Shap is saying to Robertson, "before now I actually thought you were a good Christian man!" "I am a good Christian man!" Robertson snaps. "On the outside anyway! It doesn't matter that I'm really a devil worshipper cause no one who would care is ever gonna know!" He laughs and throws an unholy energy bolt, which hits Shap's broom. Instantly there is a flare of light, and the broom glows, then reveals its true shape as the paladin's holy avenger. "You're a�" "That's right," Shap replies. "I'm a true servant of the one true God, who cares about the Bible and doesn't manipulate its word for personal and political gain. God really doesn't like people doing that, you know." "The hell with what God likes!" Robertson rejoins. "This is about what I, mankind, and the world need!" "I think the world and mankind need you to shut up," Shap sighs. "Permanently." With that he charges the evil fundamentalist with sword held high. Robertson growls and pulls out an unholy weapon of his own, a mace glowing with dark energy. The two weapons clash and the duel begins in earnest, Shap praying to God for both strength and forgiveness for what he must do in its name. Shauna is meanwhile wasting no time exchanging the same pleasantries, instead lashing out at Powter and Simmons with volleys of punches and kicks as they both try to circle her and return the same. "You'll never defeat us!" Powter snaps. "You're too unfit! Look at that flabby Size 6 body! You obviously haven't been exercising enough or eating right!" Shauna replies by kicking her hard in the chest and knocking her down. "My ribs!" Powter screams as she gets back up, holding her chest and wailing. "You broke half my ribs!" "Blame yourself for making them an easy target," Shauna nags, then knocks her down again. Simmons roars in anger and runs at her, but Shauna easily steps aside and trips him. "Let's see if all that exercise you do is really worth it to your health in a fight!" she yells, hitting him in the stomach as he gets up. The gym freak chuckles as he easily takes the blow. "That ab work pays off!" Shauna nods. "You need to work on speed, though." She then hits him with a volley of blows too fast for him to block, causing him to fall into a gasping quivering heap which Shauna then puts out of its misery by snapping the neck. "That oughta keep your fat mouth from yapping anymore." A battle cry from behind causes her to spin around and kick Powter again, knocking her into the bank of monitors and creating an electrical explosion. The evil female exercise magnate screams as she is engulfed in it and burned alive. Shauna shakes her head as she watches. "That oughta stop your insanity. Need any help, Shap?" "Nah, I got this!" the paladin calls back, continuing to clash weapons with the now-wounded and very-POed but still not dead Robertson. "Okay," Shauna decides, then sits back to watch the fight as it continues, hoping that the battle is not going to set off any alarms.

Meanwhile, on the Avatar of Ganon, Mephisto is watching Guod's head as it types furiously on a keyboard with mechanical arms it has extended. "Are you sure you can get this station to auto-repair itself?" the demon lord asks, frowning. "Trust me," Doug's evil clone chuckles back. "The Ravens may have destroyed my assimilation capability, but I still have my knowledge of Borg systems and machines." He smiles and hits another key, when suddenly the station shudders as if hit by several concentrated blasts. "What?!" Mephisto roars. "What was that?!" "It wasn't me," Guod assures him. Mephisto grimaces and is about to reply when the station shakes again. "Lord Mephisto!" the ice imp runs in screaming. "We're under attack! It's the Avatar ships that fled this place when we took over! They're back! They've destroyed our guns and are landing troops inside now! We're under attack!" "What?!" Mephisto roars. "Impossible!" Guod only smiles. "Checkmate," he says, going back to his typing as the screen goes blank.

**MYSTERIOUSLY END RP**
Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, June 12, 2000 08:31:02 PM
IP: pool-207-205-150-193.dlls.grid.net

Just a quick one before sleep...I need sleep tonight, I have a Istitutions of Automation exam tomorrow (well, today...) and I've been studying in the last 16 hours, stopping only to post here...at least, my exam is in afternoon...

Robby:> <<What about Demona and Sata against one another in a game of tennis?>> Hm, Demona hands down...I doubt Sata has ever played tennis, while Dominique Destine is for sure an habitu� of the playground. But I have another one (you'll love it!)...what about Sata and Demona against each other in a chess play?

Aaron:> Do you really have a Demona tattoo? Just curiosity, really...(a friend of mine has a 30X40 cm tattoo of Daitarn III (do you know him?) on his back...)

Good night to everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, June 12, 2000 08:27:38 PM
IP: h213-18-119.mi2.albacom.net

Does anyone know where I can buy a homing device that I can leave in a car and later use a tracking device to find my car? I consisently have problems remembering where I park. I parked on a college campus and could not find my car two different times.

Interesting fact: the archive of the BFTS RP is around one fourth the size of last week's comment room.

Here is a list of ways to lose money while working:
1. Park in a spot where your car is guaranteed to be towed away
2. Drive so far to work that your gasoline bill equals your pay for work.
3)Bring so many snacks and a meal with you that your pay for the day is equal to the amount of money it cost you to buy the food.

Xanatos vs Dracon - Is that really a question of who would lose? Dracon would lose within hours of Xanatos finding out Dracon was after him. One phrase: instant resources at Xanatos's disposal. Unless Dracon fully prepared, Xanatos would wipe him out within hours. Of course, Xanatos would stop and count the costs before declaring war on Dracon. If Xanatos is not ready to pay the costs of the war, he will work out a temporary truce so that he can lower the costs of the war.

Spam question - how do spammers forge the send date? I got spam postmarked for a long time ago.

**INVISIBLE MAN SPOILERS**
The movie sended to me to be split in two halves. You could miss most (if not all) of the first half and figure out what happened based on the second half. So much potential? You are right about being much potential but frankly is its potential going to outweigh its reality?
**END INVISIBLE MAN SPOILERS**

**BFTS RP contines**
*Occcurs after Speed Stars leave to go to DPH's house*
DPH, Winterwolf, Plastique Saber, Jason Filler, and Rodlox are in DPH's leaving when DPH's antique clock strikes. A few seconds later, everyone in the room hears sounds of windows breaking in DPH's house.

DPH says "Everybody but Jason Filler head outside. Jason, concentrate on protecting the rest of us."

Everyone heads out the front door but Jason Filler. Outside, they see 3 Speed Stars with flame throwers. Another Speed Star manages to hit them all with sonic cannons, giving everyone headaches.

DPH says "Winter, you head to the east side of my house and work your way to the north side of my house. Rodlox, you head to the west side of my side of my house and work your way to the north side of the house. Plastique and I will take care of the one's right here."

Winterwolf and Rodlox do as DPH asks and they quickly disappear out of DPH's and Plastique's sight.

DPH has trouble concentrating due to the headache. He manages to summon lightning to attack one of the Speed Stars carrying a flame thrower. The lightning has no effect on the Speed Star because of the suit.

DPH says, "Plastique, we have a problem."

Plastique, despite having a headache, grabs a wad of dirt, converts it into a corrosive acid and throws at another Speed Star. The acid has no effect on the suit.

Plastique says "DPH, The problem is worse than I thought. We all have to resort to hand to hand combat."

DPH tries summoning lightning to hit a flame thrower, but is too slow to hit the flame thrower due to the annoying headache. A speed star keeps alternating between shooting DPH and Plastique with a sonic cannon.
**END BFTS RP for now**
Is this the end of DPH and Plastique Saber?
DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 08:09:38 PM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

About Celer losing the ability to speak English after Brooklyn dances out. I don't think so. The Gate stopped translating for Brooklyn and Sata after several dances together true, but when Brooklyn was seperated from the Gate in Ishimura(?) by those Kitsune, he didn't lose the ability to speak Japanese. I think shutting down the translation between Brooklyn and Sata was done because the translation is designed to allow communication between the Timedancer and those he meets on his travels. Travelling companions obviously don't count. Matter of fact, it's probably a good thing Celer and Brooklyn parted ways when they did or else Brooklyn would have had to learn latin or Celer would have had to learn English when the Gate stopped translating for them.

**RP- The Ten Saga**
Among the first to arrive was the Dragon Warrior, who descended in spectacular fashion.
[Only evil need fear, when the Dragon Warrior is near.] He delivered his signature line as a number of silver robots took up positions around the battlefield, staggered so that one blast wouldn't wipe out more than 1 or 2 of them. Only Dragon Warrior knew that half of the Guardio-bots were loaded with the powerful explosive substance X-plode and programmed to perform kamikaze attacks on #4 on command. The other half would perform constant sensor scans to keep Dragon Warrior fully appraised of #4's location at all times so he would know instantly when #4 was behind him, unlike the abortive fight a few days before. He was ready for the fight to begin as his green armor with gold trim glistened in the light.
**End RP- The Ten Saga**
Matthew - [matts1@bellatlantic.net]
New City, NY, USA
Monday, June 12, 2000 07:47:19 PM
IP: adsl-151-202-106-48.bellatlantic.net

SAILOR MOON - I just watched the first ep of the new season. They got a few new voices and if you thought Serena was obnoxious before... ICK for her new voice! BLAH! My Daughter rationalized it as "Serena is growing up"... but I was happy that my favorite sailor scout (Lita/Jupiter) had the same voice. It is definately going to take some getting use to. O.o Overall a dramatic episode but we still haven't seen the "Sisters" (Neptune and Uranus) up close yet. still standing in the shadows.
CrzyDemona
Monday, June 12, 2000 07:46:48 PM
IP: 209.150.94.79

<>TGS SPOILERS!<>

*I* Know what is going to happen to Celer!
He <AUTO CENSOR ON!>. Cool, eh?
What the F<AUTO SENSOR!>? Why is this doing this? I am just trying to sya that Celer <AUTO CENSOR> chicken <AUTO CENSOR> and <AUTO CENSOR> all while <AUTO CENSOR> Ocean spray Ruby Red.

Dern auto censor. I'll fix it's wagon!

<>END SPOILERS! (Ok... so they wern't REALLY spoilers!)<>
<>And no, you can't ask what I know... Ok you can ASK, but that dosn't mean I will tell... or that I know.<>

<>Ok... so maybe I DO know! I mean, that little seed packet next to my monitor IS pretty smart.<>

<Fire Storm looks at the posts he has made in the past few days>
Ok... Whats with me? Wierd posts? Huh?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, June 12, 2000 07:22:01 PM
IP: t2-22.visitus.net

Dracon vs. Xanatos> Nah, it wouldn't be much of a fight any way you went about it. If it came down to an outright war between the two of them, Dracon is buried in 15 minutes. In a covert counting coup situation like David G was talking, still no contest. Dracon couldn't even touch Xanatos's resorces, because Xanatos would logically have the best computer security people in the business. Attacking his facilites would land him in prison, if Xanatos knows it's there's no reason he couldn't fabricate the necessary evidence even if there isn't any. As for extortion via incrimiating photos, Dracon would likely find photos of him in with some piece of jailbait (or worse) splashed across the front pages the following day. Two can play at this game and Dracon is just so much out of Xanatos' leauge.
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, June 12, 2000 06:45:53 PM
IP: uv1cisco01-04.ultravision.net

Oh my, my joke is generating comments...and they're interesting.

I originally threw out Xanatos vs. Dracon as a bit of humor, along with Demona threatening to cancel Sailor Seshi to get at Sata's kids.

On the other hand, I can see some points of Dracon. When you come down to it, Xanatos is a business man. As far as has been revealed, he doesn't have many organized crime connections. (Unless you really buy the idea that the Illuminati runs the Mafia).

In a straight up fight, I'd back Xanatos every time. He's a martial artist, a good shot, and he has power armor.

The thing is, I specifically intended that both combatants would be using ALL their resources. I doubt they would ever see each other face to face.

We're all pretty familiar with what Xanatos has going for him, but think about Dracon. He can hire assassins, arsonists, bombers, and various soldier types to do his fighting. He can hire industrial spys to STEAL him an exo-suit if he feels like he needs one. He can hire hackers to mess with Xanatos's computers, and hookers and photographers to mess with his personal life. ("Fox, Honey, Let me back in. The pictures were fake, honest. At least stop firing the plasma rifle through the door, it's solid mahogany...")

I'm not saying he would win, just that it would be an interesting conflict.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, June 12, 2000 05:53:16 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

4 more days till TITAN A.E hits theaters!
4 more days until Fantasia 2000 hits normal theaters!
11 more days until Chicken Ru... WHo cares?
2 more days until the next Timedancer episode... Wee!

Demona versus Sata- Depends on the situation, if its to the death or just to the knockout, and lots of other things. I think it could go either way depending.

Hmm... What about Demona and Sata against one another in a game of tennis?

Aaron- First you give Demona the powers of Lina Inverse, and then the sneaky canivery of Gnolga? Gee... I sense a little bias...
But then again, you *DO* have a Demona tatoo...

Xanatos versus Dracon- Xanatos, easily. More wealth, more intelligence, more power, more influence, suit of exo-armor, personal gargoyles for his own use even if they don't know it...

Villains and anti-heroes- Villains are evildoers, who do evil things for their own benefit and hurt others for their own greed. Anti-heroes are heroes who use darker methods than normal heroes to help others. Examples of anti-heroes are Punisher, Venom, and Vegeta.

Timedancer stuff- Can't say what Celer's final fate may be. He might end up being Sara Jasper's grandfather or friend of the family... Or things might not be as happy for him as one would first think. There WAS a world war after all...

But, just wait until you see who Brooklyn runs into this week! Hee...

**RP HERE- THE TEN SAGA BEGINS IN FULL!**

4 stands at the place where she told the warriors of Earth to come and fight. Her white armor is spotless and unmarred, despite many battles. Her many battles do not show. She smiles while she waits for the heroes to arrive. The two weeks she stalled for had given the others time to arrive. Within a short ammount of time, the leader would arrive... But for now, 4 was going to have fun...

She heard a sound behind her and turned to see Jim Iza Noying, and his clone Mij, who was wearing some sort of silver armor. She did not know the two by name, but judging by their auras, one had a power of about 2000... The other about 25.
Jim spoke up. "Hi! I'll be one of your opponents today!" 4 just stared, too shocked at the idiocy to laugh. Meanwhile, SJ and the demons set whatever plans they had into motion as other fighters arrived...
Among them was a young girl in a waitress outfit...

Robby
Monday, June 12, 2000 05:44:55 PM
IP: spider-we044.proxy.aol.com

PESTE! Sorry for double post, I hit twice the button...

Correction:

Davig G.:> <<do you really think Xanatos would accept such a
fight of he's not sure to win? >> that "of" was intended as a "if"...

Shadowrider
Monday, June 12, 2000 05:41:24 PM
IP: h213-18-11.mi2.albacom.net

Hola, compan�ros!
Warning: I'm a little tired and sleepy and my brain works at half-rate, so I apologize in advance for anything odd I can say here...

Niamhgold:> Right. I just hope I can handle it...

Reverend Attila:> Thank you for wish...<<Which of my socuts do you want a spanking from?>> Hmmm...hard choice...I think I'll trust the chef's opinion: who do you suggest me? ;)

Sata/Demona:> I think a bit clarification is needed: as I said "not consider immortality" I meant simply that you had to try to determinate who of them is going to the floor first...of course, if Demona goes down, she resurrects in minutes, but it was not really part of the question...anyway, I admit that taking away laser weapons was giving too much advantage to Sata (I'm biased, definitely...;)...after all, our Ishimuran samurai needs not it...;)
Maybe I already said it, but a honest duel between those two is just a hypotesys...I think Sata would have no problem in engaging Demona face-to-face, but Demona would probably try to avoid it instead, or to play dirty...

David G.> Very interesting point, especially the last one...but if it is necessary for the story, we could eventually see Vinnie defeating the whole clan in a deathfight? I hope not...;)
Xanatos Vs. Dracon? Sorry, where is the fight? Xanatos...well, is Xanatos, while Dracon is just a crime leader like a lot of others...in a all-admitted fight, Xanatos' economical and technological power could annihilate Dracon's organization in a single night, and in a face-to-face...do you really think Xanatos would accept such a fight of he's not sure to win?

Joxter:> Interesting point your too.
<<"Sata could win her, but not finish her"? Gee, without the word "against" in there, this contest takes on a whole new twist...>> ??? Sorry, I really didn't catch it...

Aaron:> LOL! Very good points, my friend..especially because you implicitly admit that Demmie CAN'T defeat Sata in a honest fight, and so she's forced to play dirt...in spite of her immortality, her one-thousand-years-experience and so on...

Rodlox:> I admit I didn't consider it...in TGS Demona is reforming...it means she's "good" now, and good ones always win...but Sata is "good" as well...so, none of them can loose. And, BTW, because of both of them are "Good" now...what the heck are they fighting for?

I'll be around...

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, June 12, 2000 05:35:40 PM
IP: h213-18-11.mi2.albacom.net

**SENARTIO - NOT AN RP**
within the same Roman construct as before {not intending any slight}, Sata and Demona enter. Cries of "Iberian, Iberian, Iberian!" go up before they realize it's the wrong movie.

{seriously, what did you _think_ the Romans called that area? Castile?}. ::)

The two gargoyle women let it out in an all-oiut slugfest {no relation to certain basketball teams with said mascots}. Sata attacks with several Nippon-based attacks, which Demona soundly blocks, only one or two getting past her. {c'mon, she's around for 1000 years...she's traveled, right?}.

Demona also gets few attacks past Sata's defenses.

A member of the Third Race, chuckling to self, steps onto the Arena Sands to get a better look.

Demona throws a punch and -

**screen goes black, with the letters TO BE CONTINUED on it**

honest folks...before midnight tonight.

note: you all have valid points on their fighting - but you forgot something: Morality Plays.

all those times Demona lost, she was the bad guy!

now that she's reformed, what now3?

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail.]
Monday, June 12, 2000 05:00:31 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Aaron wanders in, looking to be in serious pain.

I cannot *believe* I'm rooting for the Pacers. But it's them or LA, so...

Doug> Well, you would've had to post pretty early to catch us, since we left thursday. But there's always next year.

Jenna> Ouch. Hope you feel better soon. Oh, and you got a Carpe Noctem sticker too? I picked up one at A-kon.

Xanatos' reform or lack thereof> I think I'll modify a Sandman quote here. "Xanatos always has a hundred reasons for anything he does. 99 of them, at least, are selfish."

Matthew> Chicken Run. Well, the movie looks like it sucks, but I love the preview parodies of MI2 and Gladiator.

David G.> Mr. X vs. Tony D? Um, Tony doesn't have an exoframe. 'Nuff said.

Shadowrider> Demmie vs. Sata> Oh, like my pick is a total surprise right? Demona, hands down. Now, I know you like Sata. Hence the way you phrased the challenge. <<If Demona and Sata have a hand-to-hand duel (no fire or laser weapons allowed, no external help, and don't consider Demona's immortality)>> You took most of Demona's advantages. But Demona still wins. Because in a fight, the person willing to do the worst things, and fight the dirtiest, comes out on top.

Scenario 1: Straight fight. Sata is bound by her samuri code of honor. Demona on the other hand... Fight begins, Sata bows to her opponent, and Demona kicks her upside the head. Demona by knock out.

Scenario 2. You said no weapons. You never said no magic. Demona retreats a bit, says "Darkness beyond twilight, crimson from blood that flows..." (redneck voice) and Sata gets blow'd up real good! Demona by TKO.

Scenario 3. (Robby knows where I'm going with this) Three words: Little beaked hostages. Picture, if you will...

Scene is the Coliseum in Rome, restored to all it's ancient glory. Today, a an epic grudgematch will be fought, before a crowd made up of guests from all over the multiverse.

Sata enters from one end of the arena, ignoring the crowd, surveying the battlefield, totally focused on her objective.

Demona enters from the other end. She stretches languidly, ignoring the boos, and pauses to acknowledge the chant of "Demmie! Demmie! Demmie!" (think Spaniard! Spaniard!, not Jerry! Jerry!) from the Demona Testosterone Legion contingent in the crowd.

Sata approaches, but as she prepares to fight, Demona produces a pair of items from her belt pouch; an Armored Armadillos handheld game and a piece of a bo staff. Demona grins, and makes it perfectly clear that Sata must choose between her honor and the lives of her children.

Needless to say, Sata spends the next half-hour as Demmie's personal punching bag. When she can finally collapses, unable to take anymore, someone in the crowd tosses a roll of money at Sata's feet, making it look as though she threw the fight for money. With both her body and honor shattered, Sata remains on the floor of the arena as the crowd begins to voice it's disapproval in the form of thrown garbage. And Demona stands back and basks in the glow of having f**ked somebody over really badly. Demona by extreme humiliation.

Okay, maybe that last one was a little harsh. But as a sociopath once said, "You f**k with the tiger, and you get bit."

Later.

Demmie! Demmie! Demmie!

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, June 12, 2000 04:14:57 PM
IP: ppp-45.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Fire Storm> Disregard my previous post. I found the email on my alternate addy.

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:55:50 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Airwalker, re your comments on the latest episode- You know, when you point out that the story's end might not have been as happy as we believe, it reminds me of the end of Huck Finn. We think they're going to be happy, two young boys and a black man going off onto more adventures, but considering where they head, they probably didn't actually last that long afterwards. I wonder if TGS has something similar planned with Celer?

Now, as far as the Demona/Sata debate, note the original proposition says to ignore her immortality and assume there are no firearms involved. If thats not the case and Demmie's immortality and choice in weapon comes into play during the fight, she eventually wins just because she can't be stopped. If we're talking battle to the death, of course Demona wins since she cheats. I was under the impression it was a five rounds in the ring sort of deal to see who gets knocked unconscious first. But otherwise, lets look at past battles where Demona gets beaten by ordinary humans or by her own mistakes...

Temptation- Actually, this was more a matter of hot potato than an actual fight. Whever had the book got Goliath to fight for them. But, Demmie lost this one too, even though one alternative would have been to put the spell somewhere on her ourfit that Brooklyn couldn't get to easily. Granted, considering Demmie's outfit that's problematic with American S&P, but... (Granted this is also a somewhat unfair comparison since it was a spur of the moment thing for Brooklyn to grab the pages. Not something I would have anticipated, so Demmie not thinking of it is understandable.)

Long Way Till Morning- Demona gets a lucky first shot at Goliath which takes him out for the night, and then only has to deal with an elderly half blind gargoyle who is supporting and pulling along the rather heavy Goliath and doesn't fight all that much anymore. Ends up losing due to several bad tactical errors, like forgetting the time and NOT doign a full laser sweep of the room.

The Mirror- Elisa is turned into a gargoyle and beats Demona pretty soundly. A woman who has been a gargoyle less than one night manages to beat Demona.

Third episode with Coldstone- Elisa finds out Demona is human in this one, they fight, and because MacBeth tells them to make it a fair fight, Elisa beats human Demona fairly soundly. Not totally fair comparison, since Demona wasn't used to being human. (But on the same note, Elisa wasn't used to being a gargoyle in the Mirror either.)

City of Stone- Every single Hunter we see gives Demona a run for her money, despite being only a normal human with only traditional battle skills and close range weapons to go on. (The Hunters in Hunter's Moon were a different matter because of all the technology anbd long range equipment at their disposal, they were no longer really ordinary humans in that respect.) In modern day, MacBeth gives her a run for her money, while blindfolded. Also, BRONX gives her a run for her money. She decides she'd rather not fight there and instead goes onto other things.

Avalon trilogy- Arthur and co up against Demmie and Macbeth and beat them. Honestly, I don't remember too well how that bit went, I think the odds may have been against Demmie and Macbeth, and their soul link worked against them. So not a fair example there.

Episode in Paris- Demona and MacBeth fight for a large part of this episode, and the battle between gargoyle and orfinary human is even until Elisa shoots them.

I honestly don't remember which episode Demona appeared in next, but I'll assume Reckoning. The first battle when she was in a giant robot doesn't count since she wanted to lose, but later on against Delilah, as odd as that fight was, it was an even match until the roller coaster collapsed, which wasn't very long honestly.

Hunter's Moon- Well, doesn't really count since the ordinary humans in this storyline were armed with powerful long range weapons and knew how to use them.

On a similar note, someone will probably point out that the gang had a few close calls with the Pack, who were originally ordinary humans, except the Pack always worked in a group and used sheer numbers.

The basic popint is, Demona loses or fights to a standstill alot, to ordinary humans and other female gargoyles. Sata is stronger, faster, and better than the ordinary humans Demona loses to since she IS a garg, and well... She *IS* a female garg.

Sata on the otherhand, I can't think offhand of any occassions where she lost to a _single_ ordinary human (Not saying a group hasn't beaten her down) or a female garg, but then, its been a LONG time since I read the main series...

Xanatos versus Dracon- In an all out war? Are you kidding? Xanatos BUYS all of Dracon's goons and every advantage he has. He uses master calculations and in a matter of weeks owns him. Or if its an all out hand to hand fight... Either Xanatos wears exo-armor and takes it easily, or Xanatos uses his shown fighting abilty. We haven't seen any indications that Dracon knows how to fight hand to hand.

Shadowrider- "Sata could win her, but not finish her"? Gee, without the word "against" in there, this contest takes on a whole new twist...

Reverend Attila- Scooby Doo was most likely trippy, but your number 3 is a little wrong. Everyone on the show could hear and understand Scooby. Later on, Jonny Bravo would point out that he however, could not.
Joxter
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:43:43 PM
IP: spider-to016.proxy.aol.com

*skips on in most happy like*

Hey!!!!
Today was my first day as a camp councelor! It was grate, those kids are absolutly amazing and I already love them all to bits! I'm quite happy with my choise to remain a broke @$$ monkey :P

Winterwolf> Yep, its all back and I'm quite happy! *dances about the CR*

Yeah, leave it to me to post about 5 secs before they reset the CR :P

I gotta go guys! See yas!!! *HUGZ for all and skips back on out*

Caliope
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:26:55 PM
IP: 136.145.70.217

::Reverend Attila posts from his cell::

Hello all. I am trapped in Hillary's dungeon, but I can send this to you. Here is my own Top Ten list. You may have seen this before:

Top Ten Reasons Why Scooby-Doo Was Drug-Influenced

1. Scooby and Shaggy were always being freaked out by ghosts and ghouls, but no one else saw them before Scoob and Shaggy.

2. Scooby and Shaggy always had the munchies.

3. Shaggy always thought Scooby was talking and was the only one who could hear him and understand him.

4. Scooby and Shaggy always fell into the trap that was intended for the monster because they were tripping over themselves and couldn't see where they were going.

5. They were always deluded and warped by thinking they were
dressed up in some costumes and entertained the monster.

6. Shaggy always said "like" to the extreme, i.e. "like ZOIKS, Scoob, let's get outta here!!" What's a zoik?

7. Scooby and Shaggy were always the ones in the back of the van (doing who knows what).

8. They drove around in the MYSTERY MACHINE, which had that weird trippy design on it's side.

9. Shaggy and Scooby were always giddy and laughing.

10. Look at Shaggy; the way he dressed, his goatee, etc., 'nuff said.

Now, I'm off again. Mewo! Bye and Happy B-day to Shadowrider. Which of my socuts do you want a spanking from :)
Reverend Attila - [RevAttila@catsrule.garfield.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:08:44 PM
IP: 141.164.133.103

Fire Storm> I never got LM's EM.

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, June 12, 2000 01:46:06 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

** Niamhgold enters **

Hmm, not much to say today. Was just checking in to see how everyone's doing.

Winterwolf: Sent you out a return E-mail! ^_^ And, in answer to the General Question; yes, I do tend to check out the comments left before the CR resets :) I'd never let myself miss something important!

Shadowrider: Looks like you have a good discussion going! I've been intrigued by this subject! :)

Okay, gang, see ya later!
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 01:13:24 PM
IP: lac-flex67.ncia.net

Thanks to Daniel Johnson, Spacebabie and Archwolf for the B-day wishes...I really appreciate it <hugs each of them>

Sata Vs. Demona:> Whoa, I didn't believe my question was to summon such a debate. Personally, I think Sata would win, but not easily. I particularily agree with the ones who pointed out how Demona has a tendency to get in rage if things don't go exactly as she hopes. Rage is a flaw in fighting, for if you don't think, you finish to make a mistake. Sata has been trained from childhood to keep mind and body under control instead...and, as Doug pointed out, she trains herself continuously. So, in a duel, I would bet on Sata (well, maybe I'm biased for I like Sata more than Demona...): she would win, but for sure not flawlessly. Of course, Demona has other advantages (Magic, technology, logistic and economical resources) that make a one-to-one loyal duel a mere hypotesis...and she's immortal: Sata could win her, but not finish her. Anyway, Demona's immortality can't save her from defeat, but just from death.
Anyway, Winterwolf is right for sure: it would be a gorious battle, very interesting to see.
P.S. Just read Airwalker comment. You're right, probably circunstances are important too.

Johnny Cat & Mark Graham:> Welcome here! Please make yourself at home and enjoy. <looks around and says: "Anyone has seen that Mind-Drainer?"> ;)

Winterwolf:><<Do you read the last posts that you missed before the room reset? >> Yes, always, I can't post without reading what has happened before...of course, I read last week's CR if it didn't crash...;)

SOROW:> I am glad to hear you feel better.

Archwolf:> <> My shame...I was supposed to understand it. Sorry, I'm losing my mind...oh, well...Anyway, it was my impression, and now we have no more so much to wait for knowing that...

***POSSIBLE SPOILER***
Yesterday I've seen the first episode of "Buffy". Not bad, I have to say...good actors and characters (some better than others) and interesting hints about future developments. Some flaws too, I have to say...direction for example, a bit slow and predictable...but it is just the first episode after all, probably things will improve with time.
***END***

OK, I just hope I missed none. I'll be here again tonight (late afternoon for you)

See ya!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:47:59 AM
IP: h213-20-79.mi2.albacom.net

Airwalker kinda' beat me to the punch here, but I already composed the post, so you all get to read it anyway. :)

Demona vs. Sata

I think we're about to descend into name-calling, so now is a good time for my comments. (My, that's a slightly ambiguious statement)

Anyway, let's look at our competators:
Demona - She's had a thousand years to train, she's good enough that in season 1 of Gargoyles, Hudson says "I can fight her, I just can't beat her." She's a sorceress. I don't really think it's fair to ignore her imortality, since she also heals more quickly than a human, which would affect the outcome of the battle. Her other big advantage is the ability to move around during the day. On the other hand, she's a trifle egomaniacial, and tends to lose her temper.

Sata - She's a good, solid adult gargoyle, has bushido training (the way of the warrior, for the japanese impaired) which would include sword (obviously) and hand to hand, possibly some variant of Aki-jitsu (Akido without all the mercy). I chose Akijitsu because it was developed in Japan, as opposed to almost all the other martial arts, which were developed by people who wanted to beat up the Japanese... Also, it kind of fits with what Sata does, which is a lot of throws, floor checks, and so forth. On the down side, while she is usually calm and collected, there are a few emotional buttons to push that send her into a quivering ball of neurosis (mostly threatening Grahme).

Now, let's look at possible scenarios
1 - Demona and Sata just meet - I'd probably give this one to Sata. As others have mentioned, Sata is more likely to keep a cool head, and Demona probably has not had the opportunity to prepare specific tactics against Sata.

2 - Demona decides to kill Sata - I'd give this one to Demona by a narrow margin. She knows how to plan better than anybody except for Xanatos. She'll hit with about half an hour until sunrise, seperate Sata from any allies, and keep her moving until dawn. Then she'll just smash Sata with a hammer. Demona will have spells prepared to defend herself against Sata's swords, and will probably chose a bastard sword and this nasty little European thing called a Sword breaker to match Sata's katana and Wakazashi. Demona would also cheat, perhaps by kidnapping Grahme before the fight and setting things up so he'd be killed if anyone else interfered.

Sata COULD still win, since she still has the opportunity to trick Demona into making mistakes.

3 - Sata decides she needs to kill Demona - I'd give this one to Sata, except that Demona really only needs to escape to "win" and she's really good at escaping.

In this scenario, Sata can methodically eleminate all Demona's advantages. She'll attack with hours of night left, and she'll stalk Demona for weeks until she finds just the right time. Then she can maxamize her own advantages, and provoke Demona into making mistakes.

On the other hand, Demona is very, very good at getting away. If she knows she's going to lose, she'll do something vile like set an orphanage on fire or have Nightstone buy the Cartoon Network and threaten to cancle Sailor Seshi to distract Sata at that crucial moment so she can escape into daylight.

That pretty well sums up the possibilities as I see them. Sata comes out slightly ahead in a single confrontation. For practical purposes we're ignoring a lot of important stuff (Demona's magic and technology, Sata's allies, etc...) and of course, the most important thing - In any TGS story where Demona fights Sata, the outcome will be determined by the needs of the story. Since either one COULD win, either outcome is plausable.

Now, how bout a fight between David Xanatos and Tony Dracon, each at the height of their power (wealth, influence, allies, etc...), no holds barred, anything goes?
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:46:02 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Archwolf: $ More development in the RP like Shadow Wolf got in your last post will be fine and better than an e-mailed character sketch only you and I see. :) Thanks for writing the bit you did, hope to see more soon, such as how he managed to meet and team up with Thailog. $

Airwalker: Good points about Once I Built a Tower. I never considered the viewpoint you expressed in my review of that ep, guess I was a bit too wowed by what I saw as good in the story. But you're right, there was too little development on the characters, and the story was a bit too short. Come to think of it, this whole season of Timedancer has been a bit too short. Yeah, we've had startling revelations and cool battles and dialogue, and so on, but so many times when we've needed more buildup to some event or more development of the characters in some episode we haven't gotten it. This troubles me. <sigh> Hopefully it will be remedied soon, before the season ends.
Doug
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:42:05 AM
IP: pool-207-205-144-131.dlls.grid.net

DEMONA VS SATA - The outcome of this battle depends on the circumstances involved.

If both of them are armed then I'd give the battle to Demona. Sata is a great sword and hand to hand combat fighter but Demona's weapon of choice is usually a lazer. In such a battle Demona would put a little distance between herself and Sata and then just shoot her from behind. (She did try that on Hudson in LONG WAY TO MORNING and the only reason that he survived that was that he got lucky; he just happened to see her reflection in his sword. If Sata didn't have that kind of luck or if Demona decided to stand further back when taking the shot then the battle would be over right there.)

If Demona on the other hand chose her other weapon of choice - the mace - then the fight would probably end with Demona winning for one simple reason: The fight would go on the entire night and would only be ended by the Dawn. And again unlike in LONG WAY TO MORNING Sata wouldn't have the luck Hudson had since Demona would transform into Human form rather than into Stone.

(Even if a sword to mace battle between Sata and Demona didn't last a whole night, Sata would only get a temporary victory. She might deliver a death blow to Demona but a few minutes later Demona would get up (probably refreshed) and an exahusted Sata wouldn't be in any condition to defeat her again.)

If the battle is hand to hand combat then I'd give it in the short run to Sata. She can only win if she knocks Demona out in the first few minutes of the fight. Demona's strength doesn't seem to lie in direct hand to hand combat - she's more of a strike from a distance fighter. (And even when she does use hand to hand combat it tends to be against Humans rather than Gargoyles.) If the fight drags on then Demona is going to resort to guerrilla tactics which goes against Sata's personal way of fighting.

I don't think that the outcome of the battle between Sata and Demona would depend so much on skill and/or experience (although those are very important) but on who would be willing to fight dirty and who would be better at it. Under such a criteria, the fight would probably go to Demona. Sata is a great fighter but Demona would cheat at every possible turn. (Not to mention she's got the greatest cheating ability in any battle - she can't die. How can you really defeat her? Killing her doesn't do anything since she's just going to wake up later. Capturing her doesn't do anything since she can just wait for her chance to escape - she has all the time in the world. All you can do is hope to get her either on your side or get her to be neutral - that's the only real way to ultimately win - unless your Macbeth. But that's not the scenario we're talking about.)

Again it should be mentioned that the circumstances of the battle - reasons or it, temperment of fighters, desire to fight - would also play a huge roll. If for example Sata were fighting Demona to save the Twins then she would find a way to win the battle - if not completely then at least to a certain point that would enable her to save her children. It all depends on the specifics of the battle.

**COMMENTS ON CURRENT TIMEDANCER EPISODE**

Finally got to reading it and figured I'd post something on it since it's going to be the last TGS episode I read for a while - I don't know what my computer access is going to be while I'm out of the country.

The main point of this episode to me was the departure of Celer. The reasons given for Brooklyn leaving him behind are completely valid - Timedancing can get him killed. But it would have been nice if some build-up had occurred. Another episode or two could have been nice with Brooklyn all the time worrying about not only the fact that Celer could get killing in the travels but that the magic itself could kill him. The excerpt from CROSSROADS 2, reminding us of that episode and the reasons he left Sata behind, does help to imply that as lying in the background of Brooklyn's thinking but it doesn't actually get mentioned in this episode.

As for Celer, he only showed up about two episodes ago - and we hardly knew him at all. He never really grew - other than the fact he was a slave and then happy to be free we didn't get into his mind that much. He seemed very one-dimensional. Now that he's gone I don't really care that much - would it really have mattered that much if Celer had never made an appearance? Aside from the fact that he might be an ancestor of Sara Jasper (and even that is in doubt since there are two other Jasper children in the background of this episode) he doesn't make much of a difference. He certainly doesn't stand in comparison with Payne or Sata as a travelling companion.

Is it necessary to mostly have Brooklyn land in the middle of a fight? Dropping him in a warzone isn't a problem, its just that he always seems to land right next to or in the middle of two groups who are either fighting each other or about to fight each other - two groups in conflict with each other.

The Phoenix Gate does have this ability to drop him in unpleasant situations but this general formula gets really noticable after a while and sometimes a little boring. After all Brooklyn lands in the middle of a conflict, automatically figures out who the bad guys are no matter what, is feared or misunderstood by the good guys for a while until they ultimately befriend him and come to the understanding that Gargoyles are alright, and then wins.

And while I can understand Brooklyn's anger at the exchange between the cops and the migrants, I don't see why he wasn't a little reluctant to attack the cops. How is it he automatically knows which side is good and which are the bad guys? Yes he overheard the rudely put demand - leave the property and then he heard the refusal by the migrants. But why is it at that point that he makes the decision to do something? When the cops started shooting THEN I can see him jumping into a decision to take action but why is it that he made it before? To someone who doesn't know the history or the situation going on - wouldn't they be more inclinded to side with the cops at least before anything violent happened? And wouldn't Brooklyn's dealings with Elisa and the police in NYC together with general ignorance of what the hell was going on make him at first willing to automatically side with the cops?

And Chris's behavior - the fact that he was automatically afraid did make sense; but why is it that within a few minutes Brooklyn gets automatic acceptance from him? (Yes Elisa accepted Goliath within a short while of meeting him but he did catch her after she fell off a building and even then she was afraid of him. Only after he helped her back up to the castle did her fear subside. And even then it lingered for a bit during her first few minutes of meeting Hudson and the Trio.) I'm not saying Chris should have hated him or run away screaming into the night but after a few minutes the level of wariness that should be there just wasn't. He was totally comfortable with Brooklyn - after a few days I could understand that but within an hour of a single night? Complete comfort? Such acceptance seems so quick, almost like the story needed him to accept Brooklyn so soon so that he could get out of there as fast as possible. Look at the Humans in EYE OF THE STORM (I don't remember they're names) - they were fearful at first and then accepting but not completely. Even at the end of that episode the feeling hangs in the air of "do they trust the Gargoyles completely?" This doesn't happen here - Brooklyn helped someone and made a friend because obviously he's the good guy and the good guy has to be friends with the hero before the story is over.

This story struck me more as an excuse to get rid of Celer more than anything else. While I'm not sad that he's gone I think that there could have been more potential to explore some more of Brooklyn's thinking (and conflict on having to fight cops) rather than just focusing on his having a simply "Save the Good, defeat the Bad, and get rid of useless bagga...., uh, I mean Celer."

The big questions this episode left in my mind were:

1 - Is Celer still alive in the present? He was something like 10 years old and was dropped in 1933 so he would be about 77 years old at this point. (Of course its possible he could be have died in WW2 - he would be 18 in 1941 and might have joined the army.) And if he is then would we see a meeting between him and Brooklyn in main TGS?

2 - Launguage problem. Celer is going to revert back to Latin in a little while. How exactly is that going to be dealt with by the Jaspers? After all I doubt they speak ancient Latin and Celer doesn't know a word of English.

(Not to mention he's a pagan - what if he wants to continue to worship his gods? We're not talking about an age of tolerance that he's been left in; would the Jaspers be open to lettin him stay pagan or would they try to influence him towards Christianity? And what if he rejects that influence? How would they, former rural 1930's farmers react to that? Saying that they are going to be understanding about it does stretch the suspension of disbelief a bit - like I said, it's not an age of tolerance and they aren't cosmopolitan city folk.)

**END OF COMMENTS ON CURRENT TIMEDANCER EPISODE**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, June 12, 2000 10:27:43 AM
IP: 82.new-york-15rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Joxter> Would you care to point out these scenes where Demona has her butt handed to her?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 08:36:15 AM
IP: dialin-114-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Patrick- Its not that people are over-rating Sata's skills. She's a proven and established warrior, and quite good at that. She has several years of Timedancing experiance in a HUGELY wide variety of circumstances, and no doubt she was the one who taught the twins much of their fighting technique. Sata is a good warrior, that can't be denied. She can hold her own in a fight. Demona on the other hand... Has been running from every fight she can run from for a thousand years. Her thousand years of experiance don't seem to ammount to squat as she gets beaten regularly by normal humans like the hunters, Elisa and Macbeth, who don't have gargoyle strength, speed, tails or glide capability. Demona, while she hs been capable of temporarily holding her own against a member of the clan, that never lasts, and I haven't seen Goliath or Brooklyn, or Sata for that matter, lose in a hand to hand fight to an ordinary human any time lately.

So, I've given my reasons why I think Sata would win, why do you think Demona would win? And remember, you can't say immortality because thats out of the contest from the start.
Joxter
Monday, June 12, 2000 07:46:14 AM
IP: spider-tp062.proxy.aol.com

I think a lot of people have really overrated Sata's skills... either that or many folks are just jumping on the bandwagon. I'm not going to do either... I think Demona could whup Sata's butt up and down the street in an all-out, no holds barred confrontation.

In other news... 53 days left until G2K.

And now an announcement. My web site has been updated and moved to a new home. Click my name to visit my new home page, Puck's Place, where The Aerie can now be found! And please update your bookmarks and links... all the old stuff I have left on AOL will be taken down very soon.
Patrick Toman
Monday, June 12, 2000 06:46:42 AM
IP: ac89a2ac.ipt.aol.com

Mark- Pendragon season 3 will begin shortly after Timedancer season 3 ends in a few more weeks. The main series however, is a bit further off yet, as we have had a few delays in the development process. But the TGS staff is working hard to bring the fans these stories at a consistent pace and quality. Stay tuned!

As for other matters... I'll have a full post and the official kick off to the Ten Saga later today! Hoorah!
Robby
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:53:44 AM
IP: spider-ta033.proxy.aol.com

Doug> <<Haven't read Of Mice and Men?>>: Nope, I'll probably get arond to it, but for the next few years most of hte books I'll be reading will be something like "Robotics and Vision" (actual course title (14:332:471))

Jenna> Well wishes for the toe.

tR Mrs. Morgan> <<I'm sure the twisting of mythos won't set well with everyone>>: In a fandom that corrects Bill (the Bard), back-formation of myths should be acceptable.
<<involves the Python and the mother of Artemis and Apollo>>: Aha, thank you. After researching, apparently her name was also used for Selene, and was the daughter of Phoebe. Odd, that. Mayhap you could be using this to set up some previously obfuscated relationships that would lead to a few good stories (not a suggestion, just trying to delve into that wellspring of ideas you call your brain).

Rodlox> <<an ep of The_Twilight_Zone where a man tried to kill Hitler, but was constantly interupted>>: An excellent example of Weisman's Law in action.

Winterwolf> <<Do you read the last posts that you missed before the room reset?>>: Yup.

Mark Grahm> Patience, Grasshopper, it will come.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 12, 2000 03:02:54 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

I've been a big TGS fan for along time, but haven't been in the chat room before. But I have a question you all may be able to answer.

Is there going to be a Season 3 of the main TGS story line and the Pendragon line? I have been having a hard time getting into the TD and Dark Ages storylines, but LOVE the other two. So I have been really missing the continuation of both of the other two series.

Thanks.

Mark Graham
Mark Graham - [markg@alltel.net]
Lincoln, NE, USA
Monday, June 12, 2000 01:50:33 AM
IP: h216-170-001-086.adsl.navix.net

*Archwolf wanders in, looking very relaxed and calm*
Hey all. Just got back from my GranParents' 50th anniversary/family reunion. It was great. I got to talk to al my cousins (those worth talking to, anyhew), aunts and uncles. The only real down side was that my sister's National Gaurd unit deployed this weekend, so she could not be there. We gave my grandparents a couple of nice gifts, and they made her cry...which made all of us misty-eyed, too.

ShadowRider>I was gonna say this early, but I forgot>Happy B-Day! <> Sorry...but what was you referring about? >>I was agreeing with your assesment of the last TD ep.

Warpmind>Thanks for the info and clarifications. Very Helpful. And I am dropping the whole TIE/D vs X-Wing thing. I realized that the X-Wing isn't a space superiorety fighter...it is an Aerospace multi-role strike/support fighter.

Mec>I am curious: Is your fic at a point where it might be best to split it into two more parts and make things easier for you?

Doug and Kit>Thanks for the well wishes. Things honestly on the mend. $Doug, did you want a full character rundown in your email, or just more development in the RP ?$

Sata vs Demona>Ouch. Sata, all the way, but I wouldn't want to be within a klick of _that_ little squabble.

christine><<Can't someone be anti-humanity and manipulative and still be one of the good guys?>> Sure they can. It just depends on whether or not you are looking at the big or little picture. For example, in WhiteWolf's Werewolf RPG, the werewolfs are Mother Earth's Gaurdians. Tribe Red Talons are all wolf-born werewolfs who think the best way to protect Mother Earth and defeat Wyrm (the enemy) is to kill all humans. From the nearsighted human perspective, this is a bad thing. From the prospective of the _rest_ of creation, it ain't so bad. Tribe Shadow Lords is out to controll humanity, but I don't know if that counts as being anti-human.

**RP**
WinterWolf leaned against a wall and collected her thoughts before responding to Senthet. When she was ready, she spoke in a calm voice.
"You have it wrong, little elf. ShadowWolf was a very strong Theurge, almost a shaman if you will. During his time with the Belfast Caern, he helped heal other Garou, teach, and spent a lot of time with our totem spirits, like Dana. At some point, he started getting fed up with all the in-fighting within the Tribe, and started to grow dark and secretive. Agents of the Wyrm slowly began to temp him away from Gaia. Dana, totem spirit of all Fianna packs, brought the changes to the attention of WyrmHammer, the Elder at the Caern. There was a confrontation, WyrmHammer thought he had convinced ShadowWolf to 'walk in the light', and ShadowWolf attacked him when he wasn't expecting it. Damn near killed WyrmHammer. The pack managed to subdue him and, becuase a theurge of ShadowWolf's strength had not been seen in generations, they gathered theurges and galliards from many tribes and packs. We created a new personality for him, and with the help of Dana and some of ShadowWolf's lupin ancestor-spirits, we were able to lock ShadowWolf away inside the personality's mind. The new being was Archwolf. ShadowWolf should not have been aware of anything, but he was. Archwolf should not have been aware of ShadowWolf, but during the battle on the station, he started using some of the gifts and skills that ShadowWOlf had known. We were separtated before I could do anything to stop Archwolf from inadvertantly bringing ShadowWolf back into being." She shrugged as if to say that was that. "Now it is my job to destroy ShadowWolf completely."
There was a laugh from behind the group. Stangind less then twenty feet away was ShadowWolf. "Aw, surely you wouldn't kill me, dear WinterBlade...afterall, you rather liked archwolf, didn't you? Tsk...that was bad. Never fallfor your target..didn't anyone ever tell you that?" Before anyone could act, he threw a silver knife at Winter and dissapeared into the Umbra.
With a flash from the MasterGem, the blade was stopped in mid air. Warpmind, who had barely noticed ShadowWolf's appearance, spoke up. "So, basically, on top of everything else, we have an ambitious, crazy, intelligent, revenge crazed Black Spiral to deal with?" WinterBlade Nodded. "Great. Life never gets _less_ interesting, does it?"
**End Rp**

Well, time for me to rack out.
Shade and Sweet water, all.
Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 01:35:23 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-11.mcmurray.nb.net

Sata vs Demona>> Sata without a doubt, preferably in Jello :)
Skippy The Klingon
Monday, June 12, 2000 01:30:33 AM
IP: uv1cisco01-41.ultravision.net

10th!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:44:09 AM
IP: dial-111.ocis.net

Mecord: Message recieved and replied to. Thanks.
Doug
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:37:36 AM
IP: pool-209-138-200-14-dlls.grid.net

I AM HERE.

Rodlox
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:32:44 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

6th/7th

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:17:40 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Doug>> Done.
Mec
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:14:33 AM
IP: usr19.mtwest.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR for a quickie post.**

I was in such a rush I messed up my email address. Oh well at least I got first post. :)
General question: Do you read the last posts that you missed before the room reset?

Sata vs. Demona> Sata. For the full detailed explanation see my post before the reset.

Caliope> **return hugs** Hi there! Hey you got all you entertainment back now. :p

I'll be back later today! Night!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:12:05 AM
IP: 1cust45.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net

Mecord: Having problems with my main e-mail again tonight. <grumbles> If you don't mind, please re-send your message to the below address. Thanks.
Doug - [space_coyote@sprynet.com]
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:08:35 AM
IP: pool-209-138-200-14-dlls.grid.net

Well, 4th if you don't count anonymous
Mec
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:07:14 AM
IP: usr19.mtwest.net

Christine: <Can't someone be anti-humanity and manipulative and still be one of the good guys?> Not in my opinion. But then, since I'm human and don't like manipulative people, maybe I'm a little biased. :)

Villain vs. Anti-Hero: Never really contemplated the difference myself. Thus I'll let some other writer who has answer this for me. <grin>

Demona vs. Sata: I'm going with Sata too, for the reasons already given, and that I've always gotten the impression that Demona takes her skills and strengths for granted while Sata keeps up hers with nightly practice, and training others. Thus, IMO, she could more easily be able to win.

More later, Top Ten!
Doug
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:06:34 AM
IP: pool-209-138-200-14-dlls.grid.net

5th!!!! I work a long day tomorow so no promises I'll be in.

Doug>> check your e-mail
Mecord
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:05:45 AM
IP: usr19.mtwest.net

...
Anonymous
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:03:53 AM
IP: ns3-09.viptx.net

*binx*

....I'm # 3!!!! Woohooo!!! :P
Caliope
Monday, June 12, 2000 12:01:05 AM
IP: 196-28-48-101.prtc.net

Top Ten!

Sata Vs Demona... Sata Hands down

Shadowrider...Happy Belated birthday
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:59:16 PM
IP: user-37kapgj.dialup.mindspring.com

Top Ten!! First!
Winterwolf - [awinterwold@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:58:33 PM
IP: 1cust45.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net