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How odd... I *KNOW* I wiped the room last night... But the room doesn't seem to be wiped. Dunno why I didn't notice this earlier... *Shrugs* GOnna try wiping it again momentarily...
Robby
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 01:37:13 AM
IP: spider-wg022.proxy.aol.com

*Archwolf looks around the room in wide-eyed wonder*

Wow. I used to like this place.
Now I truly love it.
This is probably the only place around that I know of that seemingly every one feels safe enough and confident enought to let _every one_ know all about them. I mean, yeah, you tell a friend something or tell a single EM aqquaintance something, it is NBD. But to tell every one in here, it kinda re-enforces the idea that we are all clan, tibe, family, what ever you want to call it. We don't see each other, we don't here each other, and that lets us forget differences. Kinda nifty. Sorry if nothing I am saying makes sense...it has been over 40 hours since i slept last, and i think it is gettting to me (have not done this in a long time). Anyhew
M'self, I'm strait. I'm also the only male I know that is angry at a woman for using him as a one night stand (the secret I have kept from my family). She was my first and only, she got pregnant, and then miscarried (Which was when she notified me that she had been pregnant).
Y'know, since I am tired and don't care if I sound silly or don't make sense, I'm gonna make a stupid observation/comment thingy. People like to point out differences. Why? Because in order to feel secure about being a certan type of person, they have to find others who are not the same and trash them. Ok. Everyone knows that. Big whup. I got ragged in school cause I was always the bean pole (I didn't break 130 lbs until last november). I wore glasses. I _was_ kind hearted. I was into tech. I was not into most sports. I was a memeber of a minority for most of my life (you try growing up an Airforce Brat on an Armybase in West Berlin...and I also spent 5 years on the Tex/Mex border, and most people in the town were not 'white' what ever the hell that is.) Did these differences ever bother me? yes, initially. Then I learned to just not care about what any one else thought, and I became more _me_ than ever. I can't even get out what i am trying to say. Oh well. You know what really bothered be? Being told i was stupid (by most of the 'whites' in the area) because I did not understand why being 'white' made be better than some one who was not. So now, I get in trouble for not understanding why being 'strait' makes me better than those who are not. I may not chose a life stile, I may think it is inapropriat (for me at any rate). But it isn't my call, and I don't let that get in the way of my friendships with ppl who make those choices. Just don't go preachin to me why one way is better or more legit or in need of special rights than the other, and I'm fine. To those in here who have come out>I'm glad you know who you are and trust us with your feelings. Don't let anyone get you down for being who you are. Family can be pains about that, but hey, you know the old saying "Friends you can chose, family you are stuck with." yer stuck with them and vice versa.

Warpmind>TechTrade>Could swing both ways. Might have some goodies for you. Yuzhan Vong>I'll send you some info on them in the next 36 hrs or so. Same with Kyp Duron.

I'm falling asleep. I'll be back later to see if my post actually makes sense. Probably doesn't, so feel free to ignore it.

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 01:29:09 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-15.mcmurray.nb.net

JackaL::
<<I mean, there are so many sexual taboos out there, and being a homosexual/bisexual male covers just about all of the top 10.>>
::suddenly feels shuned:: Seriously, it's sumthin I've alwayz covered up as jokes like, Damn boy you're sexy ::makes kissy noises::
I'm just sexually greedy, I guess. I want everything... Are you done with that charred mammal flesh???
°°°°°OK, I'm done°°°

::raises hand for some charred flesh herself:: Bring that meat over here... I know what you mean by being greedy... believe me

::muches:: the sad irony is while there's a great conversation about it here, the adult CR is dead.

Shinigami
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 01:11:27 AM
IP: spider-te082.proxy.aol.com

WOW! It's been a busy couple of hours! Happy July 4th everyone in the States! I see a lot of people have "come out" over the last few hours, and I'm glad you've chosen to do it on our INDEPENDENCE DAY. *claps for the CR*
SOROW
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 01:03:20 AM
IP: dll2a030-1022.splitrock.net

°°°JackaL's post consists of entirely sexual material°°°°°
<<with the right hormone therapy and artificial insemination, it may be entirely possible for a man to have a child in a decade or so>>
F@#K Yeah!! Impregnant me!!! Insert Here!!!

<<Is someone who firts but never dates someone of the same sex bi?>>
I flirt with everyone, but stronger with guys, I guess I like to see their reaction. hehe... "reaction"... ;o)
But I think true sexuality has to do with what you masterbate to, that's what I think anyway.

<<I mean, there are so many sexual taboos out there, and being a homosexual/bisexual male covers just about all of the top 10.>>
::suddenly feels shuned:: Seriously, it's sumthin I've alwayz covered up as jokes like, Damn boy you're sexy ::makes kissy noises::
I'm just sexually greedy, I guess. I want everything... Are you done with that charred mammal flesh???
°°°°°OK, I'm done°°°

jacKal
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:57:32 AM
IP: aca0b0bc.ipt.aol.com

Bisexual talk: I have noticed that several people in here have proclaimed their bisexuality. Now, would you consider someone bisexual who feels bisexual/homosexual tendencies but never acts upon them bisexual or just hetero? Is someone who firts but never dates someone of the same sex bi?
Just curious.

Everyone feels differently I'm sure... But personally, if your attracted to both men and female even if you dont act upon it, youre bi. Do people question the heterosexuality of a virgin? Then the bisexuality or homosexuality of person shouldnt be contested either. Someone who just flirts is whatever they are attracted to. (Ugh, I hate straight folk who do that... all it does is hurt and confuse the other person!)

Shinigami
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:41:49 AM
IP: spider-te082.proxy.aol.com

Sorry, but I just HAD to share this link with everyone!
Fire Storm
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:37:17 AM
IP: 2cust23.tnt4.det3.da.uu.net

<>MINI WARNING!<>
Sorry if this post offends anyone due to the subject matter. I have tried to keep it as non-offensive as possible.
But some wimp might take offense :)

*Fire Storm enters the CR, his fingers covered with BBQ sauce.*
"Ya just gotta love home cooked ribs! Followed Hyena's recipe... except I replaced human ribs with pork (I gave up human a long time ago... although...), and I didn't add blood to the BBQ sauce. But I DID boil them first!"

*After finishing his food, Fire Storm walks right over to DC. Fire Storm pulls out a gun and hands it to DC, handle first*
"Now, you know what this is for, right? My net access and e-mail." DC nods.
"Good. Now, you have two choices: I can kill you VERY violently and painfully... OR you can kill your self. Your choice."
DC thinks for a moment, then brings the pistol to his temple and pulls the trigger. Icky stuff flies all over the wall behind him.
"Ah. Good. Keeps me from getting messy."

*FS looks at all of the personal stuff revealed in the CR*
F%^& me! I figured that there was alot of stuff unsaid in here, but I didn't expect this much!
It is quite surprising to find out that most of us turned out to be relatively normal.

I got a question for ya all: If someone thinks violent thoughts, writes violent thoughts, but does not act out violent thoughts (Quite the contrary, the person is very caring), should that person be considered a violent person?

And, if this CR is not a very relaxing place, why do so many people feel free to tell things you may never share with another person? Hmm...

Why do men like lesbian/bisexual women? Hmm... I guess because men like the idea of women being open with thier sexuality. I think men think that if a women is open to different things, he has a better chance of scoring. PLUS the idea of two women together doubles a man's odds of having sex with one of them. It's a crude idea, but I am willing to entertain any other thoughts.
(My personal reason is that I REALLY like women with short hair. Stereotypical, I know. I am a man. So sue me. :)

Green Baron: <Rambo would be good battling against the Smurfs>
Na... I say RoboCop 2 or ED-209. :)
OR a Apoc from Starsiege... :)
<Maybe we need another Administrative figure in the CR, too...Starsinger would have probably been great at keeping the CR in line. same with Fire Storm.>
Thanks. You humble me, but I fear I do not have what it takes to be a admin. Sure sure, I can sum up arguements and say "can't we all get along?", but I would proably show a "show a certain amount of preference" towards the underdogs and go for the people who's names keep popping up in flame wars. That alone would probally get me kickbanned from this CR. :)
And besides... I usually try to stay out of arguements, watch from the sidelines and THEN try to pick up the pieces after the atomics have hit.

Which reminds me...

Gside: Know of any pages that give detailed effects of a 'nukes EMP effects?
<I've been horribly late before, why didn't you yell at me then>
Usually because I usually don't read the CR until a day or two after you post your MP3's. I just happened to be in here several times Sturday.
<oh, and I might take what requests you make>
More Moxy Fruvous! (You got me hooked on them, dang it!) I didn't know that they had 4 CD's out. Personally, I like to listen to whatever you have. I may not like everything, but I listen to everything. REALLY broaden's my music boundarys. Before you, I really didn't listen to much outside of classic rock, Beethoven, and some Celtic music. Just no teeny-bopper crap. Brittney Spears (They are fake. Going into the hospital for "leg pain" and coming out with breasts 2 sizes bigger...)... Christina Agularia... Backstreet Boys... <cringe>
<if you really want to yell at me, get on my case about that random garg generator I haven't been working on.>
Well, I WOULD like to see that when it is finished.

Cyborg: <fireworks are illegal here>
That dosn't stop my neighbors. Last year some moron lit a 20 foot long string of fire crackers in the middle of the street. There is like 10 feet between parked cars and those fire crackers were flying all over the place. From the time it started to the time it finished was about 20 minutes... MORE than enough time for the cops to show up. (They showed up at 7 minutes)

Coyote: Yeah! When do you want to get together? LM and I are going on vacation starting Wendsday for about 2 weeks. And for what movie?

Car news: My Aerostar is beyond recovery. :~(
All of the seals are rotted and the garage floor is a rainbow of fluid colors. <sniff>
Guess I'll strip it for the interesting stuff and donate the rest.
Even though that thing hasn't worked (or moved under it's own power... or any power for that matter) in over 5 years, I will STILL miss that car.

Winterwolf: I recieved your vote. Didn't reply by e-mail because my e-mail and dialup access hasn't worked since my 'net access company moved 30 miles.
<This has been a mini nightmare for me.>
Seems like it was for many people. Should have used CGI... but there is no way of telling how WyvernWeb would handle a new CGI-bin file.

Jackal: <I would like to be pregnant once, I wanna know what it feels like>
Be careful what you wish for...
<I don't think it's fair that it's sumthing only you women can do!>
Well, with the right hormone therapy and artificial insemination, it may be entirely possible for a man to have a child in a decade or so.

Hey Airwalker! Welcome back.

Bisexual talk: I have noticed that several people in here have proclaimed their bisexuality. Now, would you consider someone bisexual who feels bisexual/homosexual tendencies but never acts upon them bisexual or just hetero? Is someone who firts but never dates someone of the same sex bi?
Just curious.

Robby: Why the late room wipe?

SJ: <Lots of charred mammal flesh for everyone!!>
Mmmm... charred mammal flesh...
and charred avian flesh...
And potatoes and corn on the grill...
And pizza... ok, THAT didn't turn out too well.
<women are probably more open about their sexuality than men. Don't know why that is>
ZERO doubt about that. Society, for one part, says that men are for women ONLY. Women can be for men and women. (Society sucks!)
I mean, there are so many sexual taboos out there, and being a homosexual/bisexual male covers just about all of the top 10.
And women are SO much more open anyway. Watch a gaggle of girls <G> talk about men. Details, details, details. And more details. I was watching a episode of Friends today and Rachel was telling Phoebe and Monica about her kiss with Ross. TONS of detail and questions. When Ross told Joey and Chandler, it was like.
Ross: "So, I kissed Rachel" *bite of pizza*
Joey: "Did you give her tongue?" *pizza*
Ross: "Yeah" *guess*
Joey: "Cool." More pizza.
It may be stereotypical, but I swear this stuff is true IRL.
Men are just not open for the most part. Thats why the old phrase "All the good men are either taken or gay" is so true!
(The male counterpart is: "The best women are bi!" :)
<and as a disclaimer, I'm JOKING>
Not really. I bet deep down he is thrilled.
LOVE the top ten, as always.
<Harry Potter vs. Predator> I would PAY to see that! :)
<What, you expect us men to not be shallow when it comes to sex?>
A long and lasting relationship with someone, or having sex with a different woman every night?
Guess what most men would choose.

Women: <A long and lasting relationship with someone, or having sex with a different man/woman every night?>
Same question. I am just curious.

Hmm... no Wilek...

Fire Storm - [<--- "Bye Bye Billy" a true Barbeque story! <G> (ADULT CONTENT)]
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:22:17 AM
IP: 2cust23.tnt4.det3.da.uu.net

Hello everyone. I'm online I swear! The messenger thingie shut itself down for some reason or another. I now have ICQ. If any one wants my number please don't hesitate to ask. Any who I'm really bored and need someone to talk to. *Janine wonders what happened to the weekly clean-slate-room*

Bye I'll be online for a while if anyone wants to chat.

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:18:13 AM
IP: phx-205.treknet.net

** Niamhgold enters the room waving a sparkler (which she can make shift from colors of bright green to the most silvery of silvers) It sparkles and coalesces around her in a cool halo **

Now _this_ is what I call fireworks! They work, they're firey, and very colorful. They should have a confetti font color in here to match!

Hola, all! Been a busy few days, and haven't posted in a while. And it seems like I've missed a bunch of stuff since I've been gone...

Mary: I know it's been said *several* times in here already, but definitely don't let other people's opinions disturb the equilibrium of who you are! Be yourself; I'm tolerant of _all_ peoples, and I would hope that they'd all be tolerant of me in return :) That's how it should work, eh?

Christine: OOh, a Christine-approved author? You know where I'm headed!

Winterwolf: Hiya, pal! Long time no see! :) Hope you had a lot of fun with your friends (Lake George New York? I think my boss's boyfriend Keith is from there), and hope you'll be seeing some great fireworks on the Fourth!
Sure, you have permission to use my name for Diablo II...especially in such a flattering manner ;) Who does the Winterwolf become--wait, the attention-hungry guy, right? :) <fic> Hmmm...I don't know if it'll be ready by the end of the week. I have to wait until my day off to continue it! But thanks so much for wanting to do this. I know that Brooklyn and your website is important, though, so that should always come first! < Locust Point> LOL. But I think the funniest place has got to be Boca Raton. Who would name their area "Rat Mouth," anyway? ;)

Janine: Mucho congratulations on the acting role and the custuming stint! May you knock the audience off their feet! (Er, wait, off their chairs...aack, you know what I mean :))

Rodlox: < Alien society > That _does_ seem to be a mirror image of our present society...unless someone did some "trimming" of the Mormon policy of polygamy <:)

Green Baron: < Planet of the Cows > ROTFL! Now, Gary Larson wouldn't be authoring/directing this thing, would he? ;)

Jenna: All I can say about that 18 year-old girl is good riddens! I know help can be scarce, but that is definitely the type of person you can do without! Glad you finally don't have to deal with this person. I wonder how many more jobs she has to be fired from before she realizes she has to lose her state of apathy? I _like_ going to work, because I get to meet interesting people. It's the people that go to their job with a pessimistic/uncaring viewpoint who make it bad for everyone--I'm sorry you had to go through it with her :(

** The sparkling firework halo around Niamhgold fades and sizzles out **

Well, I better go and get another wand, then meet up with my friends!

Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:06:34 AM
IP: lac-flex104.ncia.net

***BEGIN RP***
On the battlefield, Belzelk and Gigamantis stared at the cloud of dust that was Number Four.
"What I tell you?" Belzelk gloated. "Purple Electric. Always fries 'em to a crisp. Ain't nothin' left of sweet cheeks but a few stray atoms."
"Think again," came a voice from the dust cloud. Four stepped into the daylight. Her armor was a tad scorched in places, but she remained in one piece. "That was good, I have to admit. Felt that one. Made my gums tingle. But you'll have to do much, much better if you want to defeat me."
Belzelk groaned. "I really hate it when a mook just doesn't know when to stay dead."

On the sidelines, however, the gathered group of heroes and the demon army stared in surprise at the return of Jim, Mij, and....Sevarius Jr.
"Wow!" SJ said. "That's some battle going on. Well, I'm back to the good ol' land of the living, and.....Kari? Is that you?"
Kari cried out in shock. "Junior? Junior!" She ran towards him, and they embraced.
"Boy, have I missed you!" he exclaimed. "You won't believe how utterly horrible HFIL really is."
"How bad was it?"
"It's like being stuck in Cleveland without an exit. Horrible place. Say, who are your new friends?"
Kari looked uneasy. "Well, you know the Administrator. And the sad-looking little demon over there is Dyspare. And um....Then there's Sammael...."
SJ blinked hard as he realized he was staring at his own body before him.
"So, um....You're Sevarius Jr.," Sammael said sheepishly. "I, um, I know a lot about you...."
SJ's eyes narrows. "Gee....this is a bit surreal. It's like a mirror, only.....not." He scratched his head. "There was something I wanted to do to the demon that possessed my body....oh yeah, it was kick his ass!" And with that, he punched Sammael in the jaw.
***To Be Continued....***

Hey all. Hope everyone's having a good pre-Fourth of July. I plan on having a family cookout tomorrow. Lots of charred mammal flesh for everyone!!

Not much entertainment stuff going on today, but I did catch this, about X-Files. As we all know, David Duchovney extorted Chris Carter and the rest of the X-Files suits into giving him a sweet contract that pays him boku bucks and he only works for half the season. So who will fill in for those 11 episodes which Duchovny won't be in? Rumor out now is that Scully will get a new partner in the form of actor Chris Noth.
I think this is cool. Probably because I'm a big fan of the show Law and Order, and Chris Noth played Det. Mike Logan on that show for five full years. For you women, I've heard that he also plays "Mr. Big" on Sex and the City, but seeing as I actually have testotorone in my body, I've never seen that show, so I'll have to take the words of others. So I'm excited about this--I could picture him playing Scully's partner. I'd be excited about the upcoming season if this was the case.

Rocky and Bullwinkle: I should have probably prefaced my remarks about the movie by saying that I HATE the old cartoon. I am incensed that such a horrid piece of animation is in the same category as my beloved Gargoyles. I've never liked the old cartoon. Never found it funny, never thought the animation was good or amusing, I just loathe it. Don't see why they needed to make a movie out of it. Now the Flinstones and the Jetsons--those are some great older cartoons. And Scooby Doo. But still, I've never felt that any of those series deserved a live-action movie.

Sexual Orientation: Wow! All of a sudden, the CR has become a bisexual magnet! Not that I'm complaining, mind you. ;)
Am I the only one that finds this odd, though? Mara, Bronx, Cyborg, Mary, Lawrence. We all knew about Mara, so this is like 4 people who have "come out" in the last....hell, it seems like 5 minutes. I've always thought it was a joke, but this tends to lend credibility to that old saying that all women are bisexual (Lawrence, you'll just have to be odd man out here. I'm speakin' 'bout the ladies ;). Maybe that offends some of you, but I tend to believe that women are probably more open about their sexuality than men. Don't know why that is. Perhaps men attach more of a stigma to homesexual behavior. Or perhaps it's just because we men realize how disgusting we really are (honestly, I'm just thankful to the Lord above that he's given us males the modest ability to fool you females into loving us. Well, occasionally, at any rate ;). Well, I'm proud for all of you, that you have the courage to express your feelings and be true to yourselves. Like Kit said, I do not think there will be those who judge you in this room because of your orientation. God bless you all! :)

Guys and Lesbians: Do you really have to ask? I mean, isn't it obvious? Speaking as a man, I can tell you, it ain't the male ego feeling good about itself cause it has no other male competition. That male ego stuff is only for men with low self-esteem and sexual anxiety. Haven't you heard that old saying, "Every man's fantasy is two women at the same time?" Guys LOVE lesbians, cause besides the whole voyeuristic aspect of it all, in our minds we're thinking of that one, beautiful word--threeway. Guys may be content to simply observe lesbianism, but deep down they're always wishing they could join in on the fun. ;] Not to sound totally insensitive, but I'm sure your boyfriend is thrilled that you are bisexual (and as a disclaimer, I'm JOKING. I'm sure he really does love you and is serious about his feelings on the matter. I'm just saying, this is how somebody who's not as sensitive or caring would feel. Somebody who's more shallow. Like maybe me ;). I mean, look at it this way: Like a kid with candy. One chocolate bar is good, TWO chocolate bars is much better! Same principle with a threeway. What, you expect us men to not be shallow when it comes to sex?
Uh-oh. I've inadvertently compared women to candy, in what I'm sure could be considered a sexist fashion. Perhaps I need a stern talking to. ;)

Did anyone catch Tenchi Muyo today? Fun episode, especially because it featured my personal anime soulmate, Ryoko! Although I think the voice actress they're using for her is a bit atrocious. Great show, though.

Finally, since we're all on the eve of another Harry Potter book being released, I give you (from Zealot.com), the
TOP TEN Rejected Titles for the Fourth Harry Potter Book!

10. Harry Potter: Reject God and Be A Witch!
9. Harry Potter and the Janitor's Urinal Cake
8. Harry Potter and the Battle of the Planets. (You think you're socute Harry - take on Keyop you British freak!)
7. Harry Potter and the Suddenly Pantsless Muggles
6. Harry Potter and Hermione's Mesmerizing Chest Mounds
5. Harry Potter and the Zodiac Killings
4. Harry Potter vs. Predator
3. Harry Potter and the Narcs
2. Harry Potter and the Hentai Tentacles (that one actually gave me nightmares...)
1. Harry Potter and the Constipated Monkey Who Was Always Stoned (I say, to hell with rational book titles!)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, July 4, 2000 12:02:55 AM
IP: 207-172-53-169.s169.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Cyborg:: Lesbianism and guys: (gee, why does that sound like one of those books you find at the Doctors? "Lesbianism and YOU!") Very simple answer:: two girls together is less threatening to the male ego than watching the classic heterosexual hook up. No male competition. Besides... :;sigh:; it IS a beuatiful thing... Same reason when there are many female fans of yaoi or slash (that is, m/m) fanfiction. No competition to worry over
Shinigami
Monday, July 3, 2000 11:50:26 PM
IP: spider-te082.proxy.aol.com

Ok, it's another day and not only do I seem to have kicked this cold, but I'm also in a bit of a manic mood, so if I start to act bizarrely, just laugh and point. (:
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Shadowrider:
::Reads post. Nods sagely. Giggles insanely.::
Sorry.
You're making perfect sense. I usually ignore such things myself, but some people don't. Talking about this is, however, a Good Thing(tm). And I like what I've been seeing most recently.
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Kathy:
Re-reading posts: That one thing would probably do more than anything else to keep things cool in here.
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Kyryn:
Thank you!
:) Sorry, like I said bizarre.
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CR pictures:
I voted! I voted! Which is ironic considering I never use a picture. :P Maybe I should, to distinguish me from my twin.
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DPH:
"We think similarly." Ah, well, that's easy to explain. It has to do with the alpha wave transmitter I've hidden in the sewer. Don't worry about it. And no, I don't like guns. I do, however, have a sword from Toledo, Spain. And I won't bore you with my fondness for blunt, heavy objects.
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Mary, Mara, Kitainia, Bronx, Cyborg, Spacebabie, Coyote:
Bravo! I salute all of you for your courage. And this makes me feel a lot better about this CR. You'll have plenty of support here. It also shows just how pointless and petty the squabbling that goes on here really is. Thank you very much for sharing. I am moved.
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Cyborg:
I tend to be a bit self-depreciating at times. It's intentional. ;)
Why are guys fascinated by lesbians? I honestly don't know, but it seems to be fairly common. Even I have to admit to being intrigued. It's not really conscious; it's at a lower level. I'm not sure why we would develop something like that.
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Spacebabie:
Words fail me. :(
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Coyote:
Oh, man. I had to endure vicious "teasing" as a kid. It was like I had a big bullseye on my back. I was always different somehow. Still am. Of course, after I exploded one time and gave a particular bully a sound beating, people started being nicer for some odd reason. ;) It takes a lot to push me to that point, but once I'm there, watch out! You're lucky to have someone like Mara to be there for you.
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Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, July 3, 2000 11:25:58 PM
IP: ppp-36.rb5.exit109.com

*enters*
Damn you people are the coolest. *BIG FAT HUGS AND PATS ON THE BACK TO EVERYONE* ^_^ I'm glad I have people in my life to talk to about stuff like this. Bahemut's been especially cool and encouraging me to come out when I'm fully ready and find it to be an appropriate time.
I know with my family I'm going to give a mixed response. My mom is completely gay/bisexual positive. She only has a hard time with the people who don't understand non-heterosexual people. My dad I know is going to feel a bit disapointed in me. I know because I asked him a hypothetical question of what his response would be if I turned out to be gay or bisexual, and he said he'd feel a little disapointed. >:/ My sister I won't even discuss because I'm still very angry at her for how she treated me then. But I feel that I need to tell my folks when I feel ready with it. I'll definetly keep you guys posted when that happens. :)

Mara>incidently, love your fanifcs. VERY entertaining. ;)

*again gives big huga and pats*

later guys!

*GONE*

Mary Flanders
Monday, July 3, 2000 11:23:53 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Mary- I'm sorry to hear what you are going through it is a tought thing to go through. I'm Bisexual myself as well but I would say more gay and I always had these feeling sense I was really young but I had no idea what sexuality was. I told my parents about it 2 years ago my mom is being understanding about it but my dad rather not talk about it. I was just in a same sex relainship but we broke up last week which one knew about but I told my mom Saterday and she was calm about it. So well wishs to you and hope things get better
bye

Lawrence - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Ohio
Monday, July 3, 2000 11:06:53 PM
IP: chil-ras3-3-cs-9.dial.bright.net

Green Baron- ANtarctic Press is a local comic book company thats been doing the whole anime thing for years, and produces some of the best friggin books on the market, including Gold Digger and Ninja High School. Pity they have such low print runs.

Kyryn- I did the flats for pages 13-18 on Legacy number 4 and I'm currently working towards doing all the flats for Ninja High School number 12. (I'll be done by Friday...) However, since I'm listed as an intern, they aren't paying me anything. Oh well, I'm having fun and getting my name in the credits. Thats what counts right now...

Winterwolf- Um, I was the one that posted the filk as Isaac Payne. Coyote thought it would be a good joke considering how it started...

Mary- Eeeesh... That sound pretty bad. But not nearly as bad as the case with the siblings that are my cousins Nolan and Brian... Brian is one of my best buddies, Nolan... Has been to jail. THere's some stories I could tell you you might not actually believe...

Kitainia- More after the room wipes? Um, see you July 9th then...


Robby
Monday, July 3, 2000 10:48:27 PM
IP: spider-tp021.proxy.aol.com

I'm addressing Mary, if everyone else don't wanna read this, then don't- Ya know it alwayz makes me sad and upset when ppl pick on other ppl cause of their "sexual preference". Oh crap, I burned a whole in my pants..., Anyway, me personally, I chose not to define my sexuality, cause I fit no "catergory", other than, Needs extreme help. But it's major freakin great you gotta guy that makes you feel comfortable and better about urself. If I may ask, why would you want to tell ur parents and sister?

<<Why do lesbians turn guys on so often?>>
LoL Me personally, it makes me feel closer to her. It's like another level that you connect on. My bestfriend, I swear if she had balls, she'd grab em lukin at a grrrl and say, Yep, luk at that sweet thang! God, I love her!

Greg- Speakin of hair. I got all mine chopped off, GOD I MISS IT!!!! My lawyer said it would be gud to do, and I was pissed off anyway, so I chopped it all off to be a smart ass, no one cared but me in the end. And it was soo long and beautiful too, dark, dark brown and down to my mid back... ::sniff::

Abuse- Hahaeyy, guess it happens to ever1, huh? ::raises hand:: I was molested!!! But it never really affected me, it's in my mind that it happens to everyone.

Christine- I guess ur right. Cause any child of mine is *definitely* not an inanimate object. Though, maybe sumbody's desert one day. :o)

jacKal
Monday, July 3, 2000 10:30:16 PM
IP: aca0b0bc.ipt.aol.com

Warpmind > well, maybe what I should have said wasn't necessarily that guys (or anyone else) has control over their urges, but that we're all responsible for our behavior. If we can't resist, we have to pay the consequences. As for a Temple of Talopea, LOL, somehow I doubt it'll happen anytime soon ... it would cost a lot of money to buy me a High Priestess kind of bod ; )

Jackal > Chiffon? Er ... well ... if you really like it ... but if you're still looking, I have lots of name books at my disposal. It's pretty, but if it were me I'd be hesitant about tagging a kid with the name of a dessert/fabric/backup group. Or any other inanimate object that could serve as the title of a new V.C. Andrews book, really ... ; )

Welp, I've resorted to better living through chemistry ... got me some sleeping drugs to get through these summer days. Most of the usual downsides to the night shift don't bug me, but trying to sleep when it's sunny, hot, and noisy out is a real pain in the caboose. I was cranky and bitchy all last night (chorus -- "and how is this a news flash?") and decided I better get some darn sleep!

Update > Sabledrake is running late due to a delay getting the cover, but should be posted tonight. I still haven't added the latest batch of pics to my site, shame on me! But on a more exciting note, we've got us some new competition in the gargoyle erotica biz ... I beta-read one of the best damn spicy fanfics I've ever seen last night, and if there was a Christine Morgan seal of approval, this one would get it in a flash! It should be posted soon, so be on the lookout! Yum!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 10:13:14 PM
IP: 07-135.009.popsite.net

**a black streamlined Ford drives into the room. The door opens**

Thanks for the lift, mom!

**closes the door, waving to his mother as the Ford drives off.**

Well, in case ya haven't figured it out yet ... Mom finally did get her new car. Then again, not exactly ...
Eventually, Mom wound up with a '99 Ford Escort SE, which really isn't as bad as it sounds ... for starters, this one isn't a wagon (it's a sedan this time), and really it's a very nice looking car ... and surprisingly powerful for such a small engine (2.0l SOHC inline four). Now I've been assembling a Christmas gift list of stuff I can get for her ... mostly trim stuff, including a spoiler, and something really neat we wanna try with a set of clear headlight covers and masking materials (giving the headlights an "angry gargoyle eyes" appearance).

She likes it. Sure, it ain't a Mustang, but she can trade it in for one in 18 months if she keeps up the payments. :)

Anyway ... been a while for me ...

Fox Animation: Well, y'see, that's why I'd love for that screenplay of mine (which I haven't worked on in a couple years now) to be animated ... to get some good anime-like American animation to the public at large. Whole nine yards, folks!

Kyryn: The problem with Mom's car turned out to be that the timing belt skipped a notch when the water pump seized. Total repair cost: $317. And two days later, the '93 was *HISTORY!*

Aaron: **smirks** Not *that* kind of lemon, dude. ;)

SJ: I believe you're the one who brings up the Darwin Awards every year ... this one's a doozy, it's a potential Darwin winner and it originates from Detroit.
Apparently a woman who was being chased by KMart security for stealing approx. $105 worth of clothing decided her best move would be to hide. She found the most convenient hiding place and hid from her pursuers. Unfortunately ... the hidey hole she chose was an operating *GARBAGE TRUCK COMPACTOR.* The truck operator, unaware there was a human being hiding in his compactor, switched it on and crushed this poor woman to death.
The thing that galled me about this was, everyone was up in arms about how store security supposedly pursued her into a situation that cost her her life, and said "they could have let up on her." Folks ... *they* didn't tell her that the best place to hide from the police was a *trash compactor!* They didn't throw her in. She hid herself there of her own free will.
I swear, sometimes people can be such sheep. **grumbles**

FS/LM ... ye remind me ... I gotta get some info so we can get together the weekend before I head down to Orlando ... so's we can check those cards and see if they'll work, and probably catch a movie at the same time. :)

Jenna: I hear ya, girl. In the last two weeks, we've had three countermen quit on us. Including one *today.* But you can't really fault his reasons ... the man is 62 years old and the pace of the parts counter got overwhelming for him (in fact, he's actually nearly collapsed during one shift, due to his blood pressure meds). The other two, though ... they're just punks. So now, we're down three men, we can barely put together a skeleton crew anymore!!

**returns Mara-ko's huggles before moving to the next topic**

Bisexuality debate:
Well, everyone has made some good points about it. And as Mara-ko said, it's nothing to be ashamed over. (And she's also right when she says that I like the fact that she's bi ... it makes her all the more interesting to love. **kisses Mara-ko**) Mary, you have my prayers and thoughts as well, there's no reason for you to have to give up who you are because it's different. God knows countless people have tried to normalize me ... with zero success. ;)

True Confessions: Well, I guess it's my turn ... a few folks in here know about this one.
**POTENTIALLY DISTURBING PERSONAL INFORMATION AHEAD!**
What it amounts to is this ... during a particularly traumatic Boy Scout leadership camp (which lasted *two weeks*), I learned less about leadership and more about getting cornholed ... literally.
I still get emotional when I talk about this, so please forgive me if my language gets choppy or incomprehensible. Anyway, I was 13 and overweight, so I was the butt of particularly cruel teasing, *especially* in seventh and eighth grades (I would go so far as to call it "unholy harassment" as opposed to teasing). It reached a boiling point at this camp, when I was harassed for reasons that the harassers had created ... case in point, an urban myth about cats being trapped in outhouse septic tanks caused me not to **clears throat** move my bowels for the entire period ... and then they would give me grief about it. Up to the point that whenever I entered my tent, they'd attempt to shove a carrot up my @$$. They also squirted mustard on me in the shower ... continuously verbally abused me ... and all the time the adults turned a blind eye, because a little teasing never hurt anyone. (Yeah, but ruthless mindf**king can seriously damage someone's confidence, as it did mine.)
**sighs heavily**
I've tried to move on ... really, I have ... but the memory of that incident still haunts me to this very day. I went through therapy ... both before and after the incident ... to try to heal my tortured mind. It was partially successful ... I've since become a very pacifistic person and will make every attempt to control my first (usually violent) reaction to any sort of situation that irks me ... but on the other hand, this one incident truly scarred me, and I can never forget it ... nor can I ever forgive the boys who did it. I hope to God that they all rot in Hell for breaking my spirit like that.
**END POTENTIALLY DISTURBING INFORMATION**

**sigh** That feels better ...

**walks a couple steps before falling into Mara-ko's arms, clutching her emotionally**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, July 3, 2000 10:12:59 PM
IP: 216.28.101.165

I guess its my turn for a confession....but my Whole family knows about this...Heck my parents were the ones who called the cops. When I was about 3 or 4 ( I think it was around that age) I was abused by my babysitter at the time. My parents didnt know and I was told not to tell. They found out when she made a mistake and left a red swollen hand print on my face and thats when my parents called the cops. My second Babysitter was much better....She was the daughter of friendly neighbors and she told great stories and put on puppet shows for me......

Yes most of the abuse is sitll blocked out but whenever I see videos or babysitters and nannies abusing little kids it pisses me off! so if you have kids please get a nanny cam

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, July 3, 2000 09:00:02 PM
IP: user-37kapgp.dialup.mindspring.com

Survey> Some things going on in here lately (ex: G'X'B hair discrimination) have got me wondering, how many of us are considered 'non- conformists' by the people around us where we live. I don't only want to know that you are (if you are) but also why, such as I'm considered a 'non- conformist' because I am a ragamuffin- goth.

Daniel Johnson><I'm just trying to be thought provoking in my owm pathetic way.> I don't think you are pathetic, in fact, you are exactly right.

Bisexual Topic> It's the best of both worlds, eh? ;) I know how you (Mary and Bronx) feel, I'm bisexual too. I can't tell my parents either. Steve just loves it when I check girls out when I'm with him though. Why do lesbians turn guys on so often?
I think the worst of it was when a friend in highschool started treating me weird after she found out. I agree with you both totally: whether they be friend or sister, they are the worst when they do that.

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, July 3, 2000 07:08:37 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Happy Early 4th everyone..

**warning, this post may be for the faint of heart, ect. Not intention of causing flames**

Well as long as this subject is up, I've decided to add my own post.

Mary> You go girl. I know that probably wasnt an easy thing to post in the CR, but you have given me the inspiration to say my own piece.
I'm bisexual as well, and only recently I've been coming out to people.(thanks GB for the encouragement)
Living in a small town it's really difficult because people dont take kindly to different preferences at all. I've had many of my friends (or at least I thought they were) turn and slam the door forever because they are afraid. So I know how you felt when your sister was treating you horribly like that.
As of now, I'm reluctant to tell my family, but I suppose all in good time it will come. And to all the others now who spit in my face, I whipe it off serenly. This is me, and I have to live my life the best way possible for myself.
**end faint of heart comment**

Chicken Run> I took my little brother to the movies yesturday and this is what we ended up seeing. It was pretty good actually! To be honest, I kinda liked it better than Titan AE *sees the whole CR gasp* eh ehh.. well call it a tie.

Thats all.

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 06:52:37 PM
IP: spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com

**PERSONAL STUFF ALERT- NOT TO BE READ BY MINORS WITH CONCERNED OR NON-UNDERSTANDING PARENTS!**

Right on Mara! :) And you too Mary. You were very brave to trust us with that personal stuff, it shows you've matured quite a bit since you were young. <grin> Not surprised you told us before your family either. I know all too well how much easier it is to talk about personal stuff among friends. Don't worry, your "secret" is nothing to be ashamed of whatsoever. The feelings you had at youth, and those you have now, are perfectly normal. I should know, I had them too (though mine were much more similar to Mara's than yours). And things have turned out for me differently, yes- I'm pretty much exclusively heterosexual these days, though I am still attracted to girls on occasion and probably would be with one if both parties agreed, but that's never happened- but I know those feelings you mentioned are normal. And we're not the only ones in the CR either if what Mara's said is any key. :) The angst you went through over yours must have been difficult, I know from personal experience with my own feelings. Fortunately, I didn't have a sister who found profit in making it worse (one of the good things about Stephanie is she knows when to be helpful and understanding, even about situations that she dislikes). Sorry that you did, glad you were able to become comfortable with everything about yourself regardless of that <bleep>'s messing with your life and trust. Glad Bahemut's okay with it too and has helped you come to terms with who you are- it's great finding a guy who can accept you and do that, isn't it? <grins, hugs Doug>

:) You will find no anger, shame, or other negative emotion here because of your secret. At least not from me, I unfortunately can't speak for other people. :( Instead there will be only the same friendship, acceptance, and so on that we have always given you. Hope you can profit from it, and let it lead you into a good and emotionally beneficial future. <grins> From your post earlier, it sounds like you're already on the right track. Good luck continuing down it. Please let us know when you think you're ready to tell your family of the final outcome of your personal debates and quandaries- that will be hard to do, I know from experience, with Stephanie it was easy since we're so close, but with Dad, Mom, and Ray- all Republicans and despisers of homosexuality in any form prior to my confession- getting understanding and acceptance took a while and was difficult to say the least. But I succeeded, and retained their love. I'm confident you can do the same. :) Let us know when you're ready to do it. Doug, Stephanie, and I at least (probably Mara, GXB, and others too) will be sending you our prayers.

**END PERSONAL STUFF NOT SUITABLE FOR TOO-OFTEN-OBSERVED CHILDREN**

GXB: Very good quote. Stephanie's senior one in fact. :) I believe in its words too. :)

More after the room wipes. Later!

Kitainia
Monday, July 3, 2000 05:32:10 PM
IP: pool-209-138-61-96.dlls.grid.net

Sorry for double post...

Mary Flanders::
Eee, siblings can be cruel at times, but it's a part of having siblings, I think. As for you liking guys later on, it's not wholly unheard of. I'm bi, too. (as Coyote seems to... like ? ::huggles her Boo::) But when I was younger I always had crushes on guys, it was girls however that I felt more comfortable around and therefore more attracted too. Twelve to twenty is that time when you find out more about yourself, go through puberty and the like... it's the momeny you become comfortable with yourself that others lose the power to make you want to shrivel up and die for being you. (although if anyone found out I was bi when I was, say, fourteen, I woulda fled the country probably)

Shinigami
Monday, July 3, 2000 04:43:30 PM
IP: spider-tp014.proxy.aol.com

Mary> There is no shame in being bi-sexual. Some of my good friends are. And there is no shame in being gay either. I'm straight, but am accepting of all people... unless the person is a real jerk. To quote a hero of mine named Kurt Cobain, "if you're an asshole I don't care if you're gay or straight, Christian or Jewish. I don't care if you buy my CDs and come to all my concerts, I don't care if you like me because I hate you."

Green Baron> Well in this country it seems that you can sue for anything, including discrimination of hair. That being said, I did get a hair cut today, still long but not as long.

Welcome back Airwalker.

Doug> Tonight I'm going to read all 3 parts of Night of the Symbiotes, so feedback should be coming your way.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 04:38:31 PM
IP: dialin-741-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

SHAMELESS_PLUG: The Slingshot is up, posted in the Adult section. Mature (or semi-mature since it's mostly shonen-ai) audiences please.
Shinigami
Monday, July 3, 2000 04:37:13 PM
IP: spider-tp014.proxy.aol.com

*enters*

Green Baron> Don't think I know your EM addy or ICQ number. care to run them by me?

***Warning! issues of a personal matter ahead!***
grrr...my sister is the worst. I know I'm pretty mean to her, but she can be just as cruel. The difference is, she thinks what she does to me isn't really mean. The reason why I'm also very mean to her is that I told her a secret of mine when I was 12. I felt ashamed of this secret and felt pretty bad about it, but she made me feel even worse. Aparently she doesn't remember the whole reason for this secret, and thinks it's pretty stupid. But she doesn't know the whole truth behind it. After I told her, she teased me about it whenever the subject came up on TV, the news, conversation, whatever. THEN she blackmailed me into doing things for her, or else she'd tell her friends my secret. Though I think she already did by now. *sigh* That's the main reason why I hate my sister so much. She has no consideration for my feelings.
You want to know what my secret is? I know I have nothing to be ashamed of now, but I feel reluctant to tell people even today, even my parents. When I was young, I was intersested in girls. That's right, I ain't straight. I told my sister this, but she apparently got the messege that I thought I was gay because I wasn't interested in boys. Later on when we watched TV and saw something involving non-straight people, she teased me about it. I felt so ashamed I had to leave the room whenever this came up. I soon learned after that that she most likely told her friends this too. Then she started to blackmail me into doing things for her. I felt so ashamed of being who I was that I just felt like shrivelling up and dying.
As I grew older, I discovered, "Hey guys aren't so bad after all!". Sounds a little strange probably to change sexual preference but it happened to me. So the truth of the matter is, I'm bisexual. Still interested in girls, but I like guys too. I haven't told my folks or sister this. Hell, my sister probably thinks I've outgrown the supposed "I think I'm gay" phase. She still thinks it's funny aparently. I recall her telling about it not long ago and she seemed to find it funny.
Yes, Bahemut knows about this, I recently told him and he's fine with it (damn I love that guy! ^_^), which makes me feel tons better abou it.
I don't know when it will be a good time to tell my folks or sister the truth, but I'll have to wait.
***end if personal issues***

well I'll talk to you guys later.

*GONE*

Mary Flanders
Monday, July 3, 2000 03:59:49 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*Hyperion walks in and flops down in a chair which combusts.*

Hmm...I'll have to pay for that...
Oh well. I really don't have much that's too related to say.
Just taking a break for a metric buttload of work I have. the movie script I've been working on his been summarily rejected by the producer, exact conversation below in the sig, because I think it's funny. ANyway, I'm now re-writing it and I've still got the same deadline. <Sigh>
Had some out-of-town frineds over for the weekend. it was good.

SO the current topic's reproduction hmm...I'm all for parthnogensis m'self.
Ok, not really. It just seemed like a amusing comment. I mean, where would the fun be in that?

I hope all illnesses are cured in short order and that all quickly returns to what is good and right in the world.
Ah ha! In idea for a scene! Must run!
**********
So this is the script?
(Hyperion:) Yep. Hope you like it
<two minutes later>
HOLY HELL!!!!!!!!
H: Hmm..I feel that's a negitive assesment...
<Stomp,stomp,stomp...slam!>
H: Well, darn...
****************

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 02:11:58 PM
IP: ehdup-v-46.rmt.net.pitt.edu

Warning: DPH has just shifted out of weekend mode.

Of course we are clones. Just joking. Seriously, when I compare Daniel Johnson's thoughts to mine, it is very difficult to find a difference. Obviously, we think similiarly. Although I am told we disagree about guns.

As for me, I rarely get upset at anyone with the exception of my dad. I stay one hundred percent logical most of the time.

What is with the late wipe of the room?

**RP RELATED**
Right now, I am working on a big changeover for the BFTS RP archiving and communication.
**END RP RELATED**

**POWER LEVEL DEBATE**
First off, in my humble opinion, power levels are, at best, a ncessary evil. There needs to be a measuring device for comparing two different characters. I have a problem with the power levels from a different point of view. One number is way too inadequate to represent strengths and weaknesses for a character in my humble opinion. I would rather have a listing of vulnerabilities for a character, names of the attacks of each character, and approximate damage for each attack. As such, I have changed my archiving technique for the BFTS RP to list attacks separately from character description.

I do not go for cloning a character from a show, nor do I believe in upfront declaring your character to be super-powerfull (aside from wearing armor). If you want a character to be super-powerfull, it should be genetic or power armor; otherwise, stop from the bottom of the totem pole on strength and build your way up to the point you want to be. You can not have super-powered heroes/heroines without having an equally power villain. Frankly, in an universe, you do not need too many super-powered villains coming from nowhere.
**END POWER LEVEL DEBATE**

That is the closest you are going to see me being preachy.

There is only person I usually get upset at: my dad. But then, I protect everybody by labeling the releasing of my anger as such.

Darn, I should have song "this is a long post afterall" before entering the room. If this post makes it in after the room is cleaned, it'll probably being the longest top ten post on record.

**BFTS RP**
*ITAG HQ*
Fred Hitman was reading the preliminary report when Kate Bowers walked in.

"Boss, how much have you read of the report?" asked Kate Bowers.

"Almost done. Why don't you do me a favor and ask how long do Paula Smith, Henry Rogers, Elaine Wiseman, Alex Freedman, Jennifer Ford, and Greg Garrison expect to spend preparing the final report of the battle." replied Fred Hitman.

"Yes, sir." replies Kate Bowers.

Kate Bowers walks into the room where Paula Smith, Henry Rogers, Elaine Wiseman, Alex Freedman, Jennifer Ford, and Greg Garrison are meeting.

"Mr. Hitman wants to know how long do you expect to spend working on your final report." says Kate Bowers.

"Well, tell him we expect to be done by the end of the day." said Paula Smith.

Kate Bowers left the room.

"You really expect us to be done that soon?" asked Alex Freedman.

"Yes, we are almost done with our recommendations. When we get through with that, all we have to do to create the presentation." replied Paula Smith.

"That sounds about right to me," replies Jennifer Ford.

Kate Bowers walks in the room where Fred Hitman is. He just finished reading the preliminary report and notices Kate Bowers walking in.

"So how long?" asked Fred Hitman.

"Paula said that she expects to be done by the end of the day." replied Kate Bowers.

"That is satisfactory," replied Fred Hitman. "Let me reread this report in private."

Kate Bowers walks out the room and into another room where Todd Johnson and Janet Williams are sitting.

"So what's up?" asks Kate Bowers and Janet Williams.

"Not much. What kind of mood is our boss in?" asks Janet Williams.

"He doesn't want to be bothered. He's rereading the preliminary report." replied Kate Bowers.

"Hmm. I guess he wants to consentrate on business. Does anyone the last time he went on vacation?" asked Todd Johnson.

"Over a year. He doesn't trust people enough to run the Speed Stars in his absence." replied Janet Williams.

"I think he might be scared of political engineering. There is a rumor that there are people higher ranked than him in this organization." replied Todd Johnson.

"Does anyone here believe that rumor?" asked Janet Williams. Everyone shakes their heads to signify the answer of 'no'.
*at DPH's house*
DPH finally decided to eat breakfast. He had some filled doughnuts to eat and some orange juice to drink. He put the leftover doughnuts in his refrigerator.
**END BFTS RP now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 01:30:15 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

*Warpmind pops in, grinning smugly.*
Well, I have now unpacked Ahasverus (my 6-years-old, terrifyingly reliable 486SX-33MHz), and I even recovered my bible, so there's actually a chance I may write another fic, or perhaps even two by the end of the vacation. :)

Oh, and a little creativity demon... as I understand it, the ULC provide the means for their ordained ministers to found their own churches. Now, if Christine Morgan was to have herself ordained... can you guys say "Temple of Talopea"? ;) The frightening thing is, I can actually see it happen, too...

DPH: Bad e-mail providers: Ever encountered Xoom? They're alright for free webspace, but their e-mail system is... well, let's just say there's a lot of e-mail I know I haven't recieved, Lord knows how many I *don't* know that I haven't recieved... :( Tus, I am now at www.netaddress.com for e-mail purposes... (my Xoom account remains; the webserver, while a bit slow, is quite reliable, at least...)

Okay, I've seen several comments about strife in the CR between Aris and Jackal; I doubt I was back from Lanzarote when it began, and I do not know neither the causes or what was said... but please, do try to stay civil. I don't want to see more people leave over something as silly as a mere difference of opinion...

Christine: You say guys have control over their own bodies? Ack, m'dear, you give us far too much credit. ;)

Green Baron: You say you doubt you'll ever see me deliberately offend anyone, or become offended? Quite true... but I assure you, it is EXTREMELY difficult to insult me; my level of self-irony is at such a level, it by far outweighs my ego. ;) Heck, I only know of one person who is able to insult me more than I am able to myself... all in jest, of course. :) 'Course, you should have seen me a decade ago; just the slightest negative comment in my direction, and it would be pretty much like striking off a match directly over a large quantity of gasoline... explosive. My temper was quite unmatched in the area... and considering I was less than four feet tall, and weighed less than 110 pounds, I'm sure you guys can see why I eventually found it a necessity to reach such a serene state of mind as I have. And the irony of it all: today, I have the strength and skill to whupp the hiney of almost anyone who might insult me, but I no longer want to... :| But, like our dear Mara, if you ever see me truly PO'd, flee. I have little concern for myself; even so, there are things that do anger me, and if that happens... well, suffice to say, the last guy who angered me as much, went to hospital with a fractured skull that day...

Gside: Um, just one thing I want cleared up in regarding Jay and Silent Bob... they're potheads, right? If so, it explains a lot of things... :|

Jackal: What, you thinkonly women can be pregnant, with today's technology? Well, think again! It is possible for a man to be artificially impregnated (don't ask me about the details, 'cause I don't have those articles present right now), and he'll be able to carry it to full-term. Of course, since it is a man we're talking about, a caesarean might be preferrable... ;) As for baby names... maybe a Tourmaline or Ruby if a girl? (Or, for that matter, just go through Christine's list of names for the Avalon clan; they rock!) (Pun intended)

Winterwolf: You think the plushie Pikachu looks like a big yellow marshmallow? Hmmm... I disagree, but my Pikachu isn't more than, oh, maybe a little over a foot? I think you may be referring to the three-foot-Pikachu plushie; now THAT looks like an oversized marshmallow. As for Meowth, well, I'd like to get one of those, too; he's the coolest of them all. :) (Pikachu is the cutest, but really, I gotta have some sort of counterweight, don't I?)

Jackal: As far as I know, only two persons have been officially banned. As I recall it, they were two trolls calling themselves (and I may be wrong about this - I'm not 100% sure) Renee and Satan; they were doing nothing but insulting Brooklyn and his Estrogen Brigade, and they were posting in all caps.

Shadowrider: You return it at your leisure. We won't have time to review the data recordings from it until then anyw... oops, did I say too much? ;) Seriously, though, the recording systems are installed, but we made sure they were all disconnected for the occasion. As for the effect you expected it to have... do tell, or is it only appropriate for the Adult CR? ;)

Kathy: Re-reading posts before submitting? No kidding; such an error was the reason Pissy thought I was going after him just before he left... :(

Well, I gotta be going; I have to get my engineerign crew take care of the dent in my TIE Predator. Imagine, I'm just cruising, shields maxed out, with normal recharge rates and all, when BOOM! out of nowhere come four Advanced Concussion Missiles and hammer into me. Then I hear over the radio someone yelling "Scratch one!" Then, I set all recharge rates to max, noting the sensors registering a dent in the hull, and shields reduced, and I do a 180, in a foul mood. Well, suffice to say, that modified A-Wing had little to say, except a few surprised expletives... pity he didn't learn from the experience, there are now some quite surprised pieces of pilot floating around near Ceres III. ]:)

Oh, and for now, goodnight.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:49:38 PM
IP: mp-217-216-39.daxnet.no

*There is a sound like an old, rusty, wrought iron gate, and Cyborg enters, looking for that can of oil she misplaced* 'Allo, 'allo.

Starsinger><e-mail> I'm glad that you have not totally given up on us, that you are staying to lurk. It gives me some hope.

Jackal> <but what happend with ur boyfriend?> Oh, he was great to have around through the whole thing. We may be b!tches to you guys, but it makes us feel better when we are worshiping the porcelain god. It's your rants that sound so much like him, and what he said when we were going through that.
<May I ask what ur illness is?> No problem, just no details. It's called MH (don't ask me to spell it out, I can't even pronounce it) It affects muscles and ligaments and is the reason for all the hardware (hence the 'cyborg').
<Baby names> I like Chiffon for a girl, it's different and beutiful. Having a popular first name can be hard. One year, there were three Stephanies in my class. That was confusing! I like Trent for a boy, it makes me think of a space pilot (I know I'm a space case ;)

Au revoir.

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:46:31 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

***Kyryn strolls in***

Thanks again for all the condolences.

Starsinger> Ack! I'm sorry that you feel that way about the room. I'll look forward to seeing your posts when you do post.

Gasper> I hope that you'll at least continue to lurk and comment occasionally.

Gside> Got the email. Thanks. I'll take care of some of that this evening.

Shadowrider> Thanks much for the info. That is better than the size that Okami and I found: 1/1200. If you can get a mailing address for those companies and send it to my email below, we would appreciate it.

FS and LM> I'll be voting later this evening from home. The silly machine at work won't let me submit since we're using Lotus Notes for our email and I don't have the necessary info to set up the IE browser email info.

Jannie> I hope you enjoy the Ozarks (even though you won't see this until you get back).

Jackal> I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I wish you the best of luck in resolving things. BTW Jonathan Trent sounds like a good boy's name and I like Rebeka for a girl's name.

Greg> Job rant> I'd say check somewhere else. If they're going to be that nitpicky, you wouldn't be happy working there. Once they start that kind of crap, they'll always find some kind of reason to ride your case.

Daniel Johnson> Well said!

Robby> Which series are you doing color jobs on?

Airwalker> Welcome back! I hope that you enjoyed your vacation.

Green Baron>Okami and I saw "The Patriot" this weekend. We loved it.

*****WARNING: MILD PATRIOT SPOILERS******

The Patriot is an excellent movie about the Revolutionary War, however is is fairly graphic at some parts. They show war as it is: a sometimes ugly and brutal thing. If you liked "Bravheart," "Gettysburg," or "Saving Private Ryan" then you will probably like this film.

I do think that GB is right, though. It may get nominated for a number of Oscars, but probably won't win many simply because it deals with some very harsh issues and realities of the time. The scenes with the young boys bearing rifles and shooting people will probably have the "protect the children from violence and guns" people up in arms (although those scenes are historically accurate).

Okami and I thoroughly enjoyed the film with one minor nit: the lighting in the final battle scene changed several times and it detracted somewhat from our enjoyment. Of course, if you are shooting over the course of a day or several days, things like that will happen.

*******END PATRIOT SPOILERS*******

Later All!

****Kyryn steps out****

Kyryn - [kyrynsan@hotmail.com]
Denton, TX
Monday, July 3, 2000 11:35:31 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Kathy: You weren't the only one who saw Rocky and Bullwinkle this weekend and somewhat liked it. :) It'll never compare to the old show itself (especially the Mr. Know-It-All bits) but it was okay.

Welcome back Airwalker! Glad you enjoyed your vacation! (if one can call it that)

I wonder why the room hasn't been wiped yet. <frowns> Oh well, more later after it has been. Bye for now!

Kitainia
Monday, July 3, 2000 09:33:26 AM
IP: pool-209-138-207-183-dlls.grid.net

My my, it seems like everyone in here is a might on the cranky side. Maybe it's the heat or the rain.

As a long time observer and occasional poster, I'd like to suggest that re-reading your posts before submitting them might make it easier to keep from unintentionally hurting someone elses feelings before those feelings get hurt.
Words are powerful. Careless words can be more so.

Along those lines. I'd like to rebut something Sevarius Jr. said. I actually saw Rocky and Bullwinkle this weekend.

SPOILER WARNING....





I liked it. The characterizations by the human cast were dead on and the humor was very true to the original show. I had one major disappointment and that was that there wasn't an "Allow me to introduce myself" sketch by Boris Badinov. I always liked those. Also, I would have liked a cameo by Captain Peachfuzz. Given the plot, it could have worked. There was kind of a weak section in the middle with the two kids that brought Bullwinkle and Rocky to Watsamatta U, like they ran out of material before they ran out of sketch. My final rating? I'll more likely than not buy the DVD when it comes out.

I also saw Chicken Run. This movie I was more disappointed in. I think it ran too long. To me the funniest aspect was watching them slide rude British slang in passed the G rating. It was a funny movie, but after a while I found the "Great Escape" riffs to be derivitive rather than amusing.
Final rating. Good for one watching but I wouldn't buy it.


END SPOILERS FOR THE ADVENTURES OF ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE AND CHICKEN RUN

kathy
Monday, July 3, 2000 09:13:55 AM
IP: client24059.atl.mediaone.net

What is happening into here? It's some days that as I enter here, I feel a strange feeling, something I didn't feel before...I'm not sure of what it is, but it is not pleasant.

Voting:> Damn! Something was wrong. If the email I sent with my votes didn't arrive, I suspect now that even others didn't...
Anyway, I'll send another mail with my votes as soon as I can.

Warpmind:> Until Wednesday? Whoa, thank you...but I don't need it for so long...if it is good to you, I'll return it tomorrow in the morning. If you are wondering, Saturday night it worked fine...it had *exactly* the effect I expected it to have...;)

Daniel Johnson:> I hope you are feeling better, and I wish you a quick recovery.
About your comments on the current situation, I think I agree with you. I, for one, consider myself a unforceful one. I respect other people's opinions, even when I disagree with them. I have a tendency to take with irony what others say to me, I enjoy a civil discussion, I never believe that what I think is "The Truth"…and, when someone says something that is for me irritating or upsetting, I usually make a grin and pass over it.
I think part of the problem is that we tend to forget this is a written forum. It is far too easy to appear more rude or harsh than intended...and I know for experience that opening a rift is far more quick and easy than closing it.
Hmm...not much sense above, isn't it? Sorry, I've never been good in talking about these things.

Doug:> I downloaded NotS 3. As usual, I'll read it and send you feedback as soon as I can.

Winterwolf:> Hi, my friend! Good to see you. Glad to know you had a good weekend.
<voting> Hm, you're probably right. I'll do it today.
What am I doing lately? Well, mainly...waiting for news (I hate to be left suspended…I feel like a postal pack without address...). In the meantime...studying, I hope to make another exam before leaving; reading fanfics, I'm going through Niamhgold's older ones; carrying on my new one, it's going on, slowly but it's going on...I hope to post it before leaving (temporary title is "Killer Instinct"...); hanging around with friends, taking care of my girlfriend, having some rides, keeping myself trained...and so on...
And how things are going for you?
If I am up for being your guide? Yes, of course, and I'd kill anyone trying to take my place ;). Seriously, yes, if you will ever come to my country, I'll be glad to make you visit it. Just give me some warning before, so that I can organize myself (like all engineers, I believe blindly in organization…;)
<Diablo II> I enjoyed a lot the I. I'm going to buy the II as soon as possible. I'll make you know.

Airwalker:> Welcome back! Had a good vacation?

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, July 3, 2000 08:49:42 AM
IP: h255-20-229.mi2.albacom.net

Hi Everyone! I back from my very exhausting and hectic vacation. Did I miss anything besides the huge pile of TIMEDANCER tales that I now have to catch up on?
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, July 3, 2000 07:12:15 AM
IP: 16.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Sevarius Jr.- Has anyone been "offically banned" yet? Or it that just a title waitin for me? JackaL- Offically Banned! Am I frist in line for that..., that's been lurkin over my head for awhile now..., and am I the frist one to openly attack the CR administrator??

I think I'm the only one that wants to see Rocky and Bullwinkle, I alwayz digged Rocky!

Thanks Winterwolf..., prolly with a "k".

jacKal
Monday, July 3, 2000 01:04:32 AM
IP: aca46910.ipt.aol.com

hey - how are you all. Well I haven't been here lately, because work has been really tiring. Mostly I just have come home and gone to bed, or had a drink and then gone to bed.

You know I've been having trouble with that one 18 year old. Well it came to a head this week. She took a two hour smoking break on Thursday, and then when asked about it- she lied. As if that weren't enough, that day she walked off the job. Well we fired her, and the next day she shows up again. Pissed off. I was told to stay in one guys office as there was the serious threat she would become violent, and against me specifically, because she targeted me. Well after she left- took her a blasted hour to be told, get upset and then leave- she made several harrassing phone calls to my other temps. I almost wished, and was expecting her to call me instead, but I sense that she knew I was ready for her and picked a more vulnerable target. Well on the good side- its over so work should be a lot more pleasent.

jenna
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:58:38 AM
IP: 1cust34.tnt5.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Spacebabie:
D'oh! The dual Daniel curse strikes again!

Now I'm REALLY going to bed.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:57:55 AM
IP: ppp-21.rb5.exit109.com

I'm sorry for this third post in such a short span of time.

Spacebabie> Hi Spacebabie! What you think I'm lurking to get top ten a second week in a row? ;) <blame> Go with those Dern Lot Boys! They've been acting up today. :D

Daniel Johnson> Are you feeling better yet? :)

Now should I say that putting in nistake was intentional? Okay I made a typo there I mean mistake. ^_^

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@wildmail.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:50:56 AM
IP: nas-5-125.nyc.navipath.net

Sorry for the Double post I meant Daniel J..not DPH...I wonder If I should blame the DERN lot boys or maybe its cause I'm very sleepy
Spacebabie
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:41:04 AM
IP: user-37kaot6.dialup.mindspring.com

Hardy Har Har DPH... And hiya to Winterwolf, i know your lurking
Just Saw Titan AE...post my reiview in the next board.(and after I get some rest)

Spacebabie
Orlando, FL, U.S.A
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:39:06 AM
IP: user-37kaot6.dialup.mindspring.com

Brookyln> <but I don't want to get your input> I'm sorry I made a huge typo. That line should read: but I don't want to post the story until I get your input.

I hope I didn't make anymore typos like that!

Unless I see some other huge nistake like that I'm going to bed. Good night! I hope everyone is having a good time!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@wildmail.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:34:29 AM
IP: nas-5-125.nyc.navipath.net

Winterwolf:
Brrr. Is it just me, or did it get cold in here? :)

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:34:26 AM
IP: ppp-21.rb5.exit109.com

**A blizzard enters the CR and Winterwolf steps out.** That isn't Blizzard North by the way. ;)

I had a great day out yesterday. Hung out with friends I haven't seen in a while. We went up to Lake George. The only thing we missed was the go-carts. All the places that had them were closed. :(

In other news I got a copy of Diablo II. Is anyone else playing Diablo II? We can have a gargoyles fan Diablo II romp. Gside are you in? :)

My picture votes: **looks over his saved documents and says "Doh!"** The files are saved on my other computer so I'll have to post and email it tomorrow. Third time's a charm. At least I hope so. I just picked my absolute favorites like the FAQ said to otherwise I'd say give me all of them. :)

Brooklyn and the fanfic> I just wanted to say I haven't put up the fanfic just yet. I wanted you to review my suggested edits. I know you mentioned that you won't be back until Wednesday but I don't want to get your input. Sorry to keep everyone waiting. I'll have it up by the end of the week! ^_^

Janine> <job> Aww! I was pulling for you. Well at least you have some other great projects to work on. You know I'm still wondering about all those workable wing details. Maybe we'll talk about it later. :) <Raining in the Desert> You know when I went to Las Vegas last year I went in the middle of the biggest rain storm they had all year! It was weird just about everything was flooded. That was a stay in the hotel casino playing day. I just broke even if you are wondering. <Charizard> I glad you nearly have a complete set. Just don't get upset with me and use Charizard! <pool party and RHPS> Did you have a great time yesterday? Cool deal with the costumes! <costume hunting> Have fun costume hunting. That reminds me I need your help on costume info. I'll ask later. <M&M> I'm definitely going to ask you about this later. ;)

Cyborg> Somehow I forgot to mention this. Welcome back! <dad> Happy you have some good news. I'll keep hoping for his condition to improve and for him to recover completely.

Hyperion> I remember you! Welcome back! How are you doing?

******TD SPOILERS******

I think this was an enjoyable story. Like most, I enjoyed the reunion with Brooklyn and Sata. One thing I want to point out is that I didn't feel the scene with Angela and Gwen was out of place. First it adds to a mini side plot element to story. Second if she is with Harthoth then while he is busy Gwen might feel that it is a good opportunity to let the clan know she is okay. Third I like to think there is a reason that will be revealed. There is more going on here that we know. At least I like to think so.

******END TD SPOILERS******

Daniel Johnson> **Winterwolf makes a snow cloud follow you around.** Maybe a little time playing in the snow will help make you feel better. Cheer up. Maybe this is a little late but it usually feels nice to get some attention yes?

Harmony> Welcome. Good TD points. :)

Dr. Isaac Payne> Nice work! I liked the song. :D

Caliope> <silly silly Winterwolf> hehehe :) I wanted to say something to you last post but I didn't know what I wanted to say while I was half asleep so I just said hi. So how's your summer after being a camp councilor?

Lawrence> Hi there. <Do I know you?> No, but there you are. You're there. Welcome back! :)

Mary Flanders> <grades> Congratulations! Time for a party on a job well done! <sleep> Hope you are feeling better now. Major changes to your sleep cycles can be devastating. When I tried to pull a third all nighter in a row I got a face full of floor for my troubles. I don't recommend wildly fluctuating sleeping patterns. I probably shouldn't talk though. I still have crazy hours myself. ;)

Niamhgold> <Diablo II> Before I forget I wanted to ask you for permission to use your beautiful name Niamhgold. I want to make a powerful sorceress on Battle.Net. Let me know if this is okay by you. <fanfic> How is your next fanfic going? I figure I'll be ready to work with you before this week is over. :) <dog> Your dog is starving for attention? Sounds like a wolf I know. We'll call him Winterw___. No wait that's too obvious let's say W_____wolf. ;) <cable> I can completely relate with you here. If I want to see certain cable channels I have to go to my friends house in Westchester or My sister's place in Throgsneck. Don't ask me what I Throg is. I just don't know. Even better the area my sis is in is called Locust Point. Don't they know it is impolite to point? ^_^

DPH> Check your email. <Fox Kids website> Hi. I'm in a unique position to answer this one. The Fox Kid website has been altered to for two reasons. All the FOX websites for whatever reason get a redesign once a year or at least every other year. Second I think some of it was done to accommodate web page automation. Fox News just went through a cosmetic redesign last week. :)

Janine and Warpmind> Don't kill me but, I find that the plush Pikachu looks like a big yellow marshmallow. I think one that looks most like its animated character is Meowth. So I'll pick him as the best. **Braces himself for abuse.**

SOROW> <TD> I like your theory! It is solid based on the info we have so far. <picture> When do you get to see your picture with gargoyles? What do your stone gargoyles look like? <email> I got your email. Thank you so much! It made my day! I sent you a reply a little earlier. ^_^

Starsinger> I wish I could say that it'll surely get better, but I don't know. You will be missed while you are away. Come back to us soon.

Fire Storm> <CR posters> I agree with your comments. Sometimes it is difficult not to take things personally. :( <CR picture vote> This has been a mini nightmare for me. My lack of voting has not been because I don't want to or haven't tried. I think I'll blame DC and those Dern Lot Boys. You can never be too sure. I'll post and email my votes tomorrow and that should be the end of it.

Shadowrider> <voting> It looks like you've been having a difficult time too. I think we had best just post our choices to make sure it is received. <something different> What have you been up to lately? One of these days I'll have to make a trip to Italy. Are you up to the task of being a tour guide? It will probably be a few years down the road cause I have a list of so many places I want to visit.

Lady Mystic> <votes> Hmm. I'll send you an email from work address (I'll put Winterwolf in the subject line so you know it's me) then and just to be absolutely certain I'll post it too. That should clinch it I figure. Thanks for letting me know.

Jackal> I think you have some good names there. If given those as choices I'd pick Rebeka (would you spell it with a k or with cc?) for a girl and Jonathan Trent for a boy.

I'm going to bed so I'm pulling myself out of the top ten race this week. Maybe this will make the bottom ten. ;)

Good night friends!

**The blizzard returns enveloping Winterwolf and like that (sound: a wind blows lightly) he's gone and so is the blizzard.**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:26:22 AM
IP: nas-5-125.nyc.navipath.net

Green Baron:
Am I and DPH clones? Ack! I guess I do need a new color. :) Unless of course he's one of my other personalities that I'm not aware of. Thank you for your comments. I wouldn't have been too surprised if I didn't get any response. ::shrug:: And you're right: I doubt that you'll ever see me post in anger. It's just not my style. Besides, anger rarely sways someone to your side.

Now that I've said my bit, and TGS is "off the air" for a while, I'm not sure if I'll be posting much here for now. I'll be hanging out mostly in the S8 room, although I'll continue to read this room and see what happens. I just don't have anything more to say right now.

If anyone wants to talk about anything, my address is below. I've been told that I'm a good listener and I try not to be judgemental--at least not without VERY good cause. Just don't bother trying to drag me into a flame war, because it won't work. Also, if anyone has AOL or AIM, my screen name is DanielJ7, although I don't always remember to turn it on. :P

One more thing: someone suggested that mention should be made that Pistoff now has a message board on his site. He posted the link in the S8 room. I might not agree with a lot of what he says, but he certainly does speak his mind. :)

Good night and be well.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:20:42 AM
IP: ppp-21.rb5.exit109.com

Proof there is a God: The truly excellent George Clooney movie, "The Perfect Storm", was number one this weekend at the box office with about 42 million dollars. More Proof there is a God: The abortion known as the live action "Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle" was in fifth place with just about 7 million. Clooney made about 6 times what R&B did (and rightfully so!). The gods are apeased.

Cyborg: Actually, we still do not know if my father has cancer. He's had some tests done recently, and will be going for a biopsy soon. We're praying and hoping for the best, but right now, we just don't know. I'm still praying and pulling for your father. Like I said, I'm glad the surgery went well, and I'm genuinely hoping for a full recovery. :)

Jackal: No offense, but maybe I should start a pool to try and guess the date you are officially banned from the room. ;)
Seriously, though, I'm happy you're back, and I would not want to see you go, either. Especially after such a long absence. We just got you back, I don't want to lose you again! ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:19:06 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Cyborg- Yes, that's correct, I would appreciate NO condom jokes at this particular point! Not to be nosy but what happened with ur boyfriend? But damn, I feel like havin my foot for dinner now. {And it actually is rare I feel that way.} May I ask what ur illness is?

Christine- Is that why a woman's sex drive is increased during pregnancy? And I was thinkin it was just increased hormones...., hmmmm. I would like to be pregnant once, I wanna know what it feels like. I don't think it's fair that it's sumthing only you women can do!! ::pouts::
But as far as having control..., I'll admit, that's sumthing I don't have, put it on a plate and I'm there eatin it up! I feel like that's my duty.

Daniel- Hehehe, that's how you do it, you cut em off and wave them out in front of the world!! You have my respect.

<<females together, gets them to lay their eggs, then chases them off. he hatches and takes care of the offspring..>>
Now that's what I'm talking about!!! That I could do!
"Thank you flithy whore, now hand over the uterus!"

Green Baron- Yeah, I think it's safe to say, I raise(d) my children in an alternative way. And I am crazy about loving them with all my heart. About my crazy side, yeah I do have an explosive temper, I'll admit that. It's being wurked on, but even when I do blow up, I think that i still maintain a sense of humor.
Anyway, it's bad to encase ur heart in ice, juss let go whatever ur feeling.

Baby names- Ok..., I wanna run a few names by yall and see whatcha think..., I already have a James and a Myka. If this new baby is a grrrl, how about Rebeka or Chiffon... I dunno, a boy, Jonathan Trent?

Random thought- About Elian's aunt and uncle.... (you can skip this part now if you want), shouldn't they be in prison by now? Seriously think about it, you have obstruction of justice, inciting riots, assaulting police officers, disturbing the peace, to name a few... Really now, all these are actual laws that have been broken, am I missing sumthing here?

Anyway, see ya!

jacKal
Ga, UsA
Monday, July 3, 2000 12:04:42 AM
IP: aca46910.ipt.aol.com

I was just informed that I forgot to copy a link to a something I mentioned in my previous post. To correct that, The Japanese Beetle can be found at http://www.wfcomics.com/beetle/

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, July 2, 2000 10:51:50 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Fire Storm> <<I need my MP3 fix! I am hurting!>>: I've been horribly late before, why didn't you yell at me then (oh, and I might take what requests you make)? If you really want to yell at me, get on my case about that random garg generator I haven't been working on.

Here it comes, through the computer named remus, getting the strangest looks from everyone who gets it. Hey, hey, it's the mp3. I bring you Daydream Believer by the Monkees.

Warpmind> <<I don't really have the *time* to search for either that nor another bible>>: Which is why I gave a direct link to a searchable database. Though I do understand your taking your time.
Jay and Silent Bob: One thing I forgot to mention last time was that the Secret Stash is Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash, a comic (and etc.) store owned by Kevin Smith, and featuring the characters, in a large 3d replica of a sticker designed for the J&SB comic book, on the front of the store. It resides in the town next to mine, and I had been a customer when it was still called Comicology.

DPH> contractions: As I said, using (very) liberal definitions. Let's see if I can find all of them again: DPH, BFTS, RP, RP, Mini, 100%, Sailor Moon (abbreviating the Pretty Soldier), DPH, CR, DPH, I'm, BTW, BTW, Let's, That's, DPH, dph, @, com, AM, IP, cwy, cei, net. That's 24 that I count this time.

Rodlox> <<make people more like emus>>: Which reminds me, what is an emu farm doing in Jersey?

Janine> congratulations on moving up in the world.

Green Baron> Have you ever seen the online comic Japanese Beetle? You might like it. McCarthy as a guest super hero, fighting the reanimated head of Mao Zedong, and other oddness.
<<except for peopel in India and Quickie Mart managers>>: And half the engineering faculty of Rutgers.
<<Is that pic of aguy eating ice cream you?>>: Yup. Tattooed boy is my brother, with his daughter, and the cat is named Candy.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, July 2, 2000 10:38:44 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Christine><thanks, neighbors, shooting off fireworks a few days early> Your neighbors could be Canadians. Our national holiday is July 1, as opposed to your Fourth of July. My American neighbours party (fireworks are illegal here) a few days late according to our calender.

Green Baron><I didn't know you're a mother.> I'm not. I got pregnant by accident, then miscarried. Because of my illness, pregnancy is dangerous for both me and the child.

To All> Steve is looking for those Burger King DBZ figures. He has Freeza, little Gohan and SSJ Goku. If you have the others and are willing to sell them, contact and we will agree on a price (he loves collecting full sets). My address is by my name, thanks in advance. (I'll probably re- post this after the room wipe)


Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Sunday, July 2, 2000 10:15:14 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

SOROW: Sorry to hear your school doesn't do senior quotes. I always found them inspiring and interesting myself. Oh well. <shrugs>

Green Baron: I read in the paper today that Jack Lemmon said that he is very sad to see Walter Matthau go, "that he's lost his best friend and the world's lost a great actor." Sums up his feelings pretty well, I think. :) BTW, I loved your Planet of the Cows movie idea. :)

Reminder- Night of the Symbiotes 3 is out. It's gotten four stars but as of yet I have recieved no feedback. :( Hope the people who are reading will send some soon. Later!

Doug
Sunday, July 2, 2000 09:59:23 PM
IP: pool-207-205-147-3.dlls.grid.net

Green Baron:: On the other hand, some never seem to offend or get offended. I doubt I'll ever see Todd, Rodlox, or Wilek lash out. Same with Warpmind, Airwalker, Skippy, and Mara.

*oddly enough, as applies to most things in life, Mara appears at the mention of her name*

Eh, I don't get offended very easily at all. It's harder still to drag me down into a fight I have nothing to do with. Live and Let I always say, though usually with sarcasm.

If you see me truly angry ever.... Run. Simple, really.

But as my old ex-boyfriend Frank used to say::

N-E WAY!!!

Did I hear a mention of Utena? Wonderful show... love Akio... with nearly as much fearless abandon as I love Xellos-sama.

Yes, I have a thing for bad guys...

Shinigami
Sunday, July 2, 2000 09:37:47 PM
IP: spider-to053.proxy.aol.com

RP WARNING!!
**Undisclosed Location
Rev. Joan Campbel Brown returns to Oliver Cromwell's altar.

"My liege, I bring back news from Havana. There is a new force I have learned of, the RedSith. I do not knwo if tehy are a threat to us or an allay, but they are our enemy's enemy. Their agents have captured the Reverend Attila, but he may have let himself be captured. Still, none have contained him before."

"And this concerns me how? Attila has been captured, but not his scouts and if you recally, Ted Turner's agents once captured the Green Baron, once. I do have a plan, but I will reveal it, when you all come to me tommorrow night. Dismissed!"

"Yes, my liege."**
PAUSE RP!!

Well, it seems that we haven't changed at all. I fear we have learned nothing since Pistoff left. The flame wars also drove off Jenniren, too.

Mary Flanders> I do what I can to help otehrs. You know my e-mail and my new ICQ #, right?

Sevarius Jr.> There's this site I've been going to called www.frontpagemag.com. It has soem stuff about Cuba and The Patriot. I highly recommend you pay this site a visit. The brilliant David Horowitz (a red diaper baby who saw the light and is now to the right of us) is part of the staff and one of the foudners of this site.

Niamhgold> Maybe Bronx has a top ten for us about how Tim Burton will alter Planet of the Apes.

New Charleton Heston movie> Planet of the Cows. Chalreton Heston must battle a race of cows who wish to make eevryone defenseless. The planet is led by Rosie, the Evil Cow Queen who outalws all methods of self-defense, except for her bodyguard. It is up to Heston and Ann Coulter to save humanity from an invasion of self-righteous gun hating alien bovines. It ends with a giant steak dinner on Earth, where everyone celebrates, except for peopel in India and Quickie Mart managers :)

How's that for some twisted humor?

Sobotka> As Puck would say, "So close, yet so far" or whatever he said in Future Tense. Well, hopefully G01 will be easier for you.

Gside> Is that pic of aguy eating ice cream you?

Jackal> Well, until you e-mail me, I'll give you some encouraging advice: If the baby is a boy, save your oldest son's clothes :)

I don't think you're a bad parent. You have a good heart, which is better than most parents, but I imagine you're not as well-read on parenting, though. You shoudl do fine with this kid. Sacrifices will need to be made, regardless, but that's expected for anyone if they do anything to make them a parent. I doubt your new kid will lack for anything that's needed, like food, love, education. You might want to do something to not have any future kids, but you ahve one coming, and I know that you can be a good father, even if you have a crazy side :)

As for some of your comments, I think you may want to watch what comes out of your heart, though. Granted, that's easy for me to say, because mine is encased in a solid block of ice :)

As for CDs, I recommend CDNow.com and Ebay (they may have some good discounts)

Warpmind> Take your time.

Spacebabie> How are you coming with the MiST ::kisses::

Starsinger> Your departure truly makes this Comment Room much less of a place ::hugs::

I just hate how some people react from their gut for everything, reagrdless of the tons of flame wars. Many others are more rational about it. SJ will let soemone knows he has been offended without a flame. Merlin Missy would send an e-mail about it. On the other hand, some never seem to offend or get offended. I doubt I'll ever see Todd, Rodlox, or Wilek lash out. Same with Warpmind, Airwalker, Skippy, and Mara.

I myself admit that I'm not psoting as often because of the unpleasant atmsophere that exisst here sometimes. I lurk more often than post because of it. Maybe we need another Administrative figure in the CR, too. Robby has a busy life, and while I think of Kaioto as a good friend, he does seem to show a certain amount of preference. Starsinger would have probably been great at keeping the CR in line. same with Fire Storm.

Spacebabie> Maybe you should get some Utena tapes, too. Fushugi Yugi will soon be out on DVD, too.

Bronx> <<Wow.. hehe the more the merrier. LoL (no please dont think of me that way!) >> Too bad. My mind ahs aready had some thoughts like that ::smoochies::

Xena Trek ::passioned kisses::

Doug> I'll miss him, too. He was very funny. I wonder hwo Jack Lemon is taking it.

Mary Flanders> I bet you're happy with your grades, and the kimono looks great. It reminds me that I need to get a kilt :)

BTW, I never heard of California literature.

Robby> Perhaps you are a bit control ahppy about the RP. First, it would have been better to have e-mailed Gasper instead of post the criticism on the board. Second, who cares if he makes a few references no one understands!! Have you seen my RPs? I imagine for over 75% of the CR they go right over everyone's head. I also think maybe the power levels should be done away with. That seems to ahve saused part of the problem, right there, and I refuse to assign ratings for my scouts, OJ, Marshall Applewhite, or any of my other characters.

BTW, what is Antarctic Press?

Gside> <<Does a dog have the Buddha nature?" >> Do movies with Richard Gere have a Buddhist nature :)

Fire Storm> Rambo would be good battling against the Smurfs. $The RedSith are Communist forces in the world converted into evil Jedi. The Jedi Council in my RP will be capitalist world leaders and Economists, like Milton Friedman.$

The 21st century won't begin until January 1, 2001, though.

Lady Mystic> Can my cat vote :)

SOROW> I never did HS quotes. The yearbook Director was against any stuff for Seniors, and I supporetd her on that, since I thought such should be reserved by a seperate privately funded Senior book. Also, De La Salle has one of the highest rated yearbooks in the state, because of her. Too bad, she's no longer Yearbook director.

Cyborg> I didn't know you're a mother. robby's address is MrNoying@aol.com

Christine> I'll let Dr. Barnes know about the update.

Well, Jackal's comment was rooted in fact. Give Jackal a cigar :) I wasn't too offended by his comment, because of some bad feelings I have towards my mom right now. I'm counting down the days until I'm gone.

<<let's keep in mind that guys do have control over themselves and theirs.>> That's why Attila's a eunech :)

Attila: But my mind wasn't neutered. ::purrs at all the ladies::

GXB> I didn't know you can sue someone over hair discrimination.

Daniel Johnson> I like what you said. You and DPH (are you two clones) are ones I'd have to add in the category I'd never expect an angry word from and Taleweaver.

Rodlox> Emus? The men raise the young themselves? Maybe human males need Emu hormones so they won't walk out on their wives and children as often.

RESUME RP!!
**New Orleans. Green Baron's hide away
The Catholic schoolgirl scouts and the Green Baron are at a meeting.

"Well, with Attila captured, I guess I'm his replacement. Well, things have been pretty quiet with the Ten and all. Meeting adjourned."

The Catholic schoolgirl scouts take that cue and descend on the Green Baron**
END Poitless RP!!

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, July 2, 2000 09:21:43 PM
IP: proxy1-external.elmwd1.la.home.com

Upon waking up (thanks, neighbors, shooting off fireworks a few days early :P), I remembered something else I wanted to add ...

Jackal > but while this is so -- "And I have no power over any woman and her body" -- let's keep in mind that guys do have control over themselves and theirs. Takes two to tango, get my drift? If a guy doesn't want to give a woman the lever of paternity suits over him, he's got some options before the fact.

Christine
Sunday, July 2, 2000 08:48:37 PM
IP: 15-118.009.popsite.net

ACK! I can't submit my vote! I'll try again later.

Great news! I've been babbling about the Rocky Horror Picture Show for some time now about how I've been going every Saturday and how I'm making some of their costumes. Well... Now I'm going to be the new 'Columbia' in the show! This is so wonderful! The director came up to me last night and said,'The fabric is back stage. By the way, do you have any intrest in being in the cast? Marie is leaving and we need a new Columbia.' I am still in shock! I have two weeks to practice and get all my costumes together.

Winterwolf> Hi! I hope you had fun I duno if you are abck yet or not. I'll be on tomorrow. Today I'm going costume hunting. See ya!

Bye all.

*Janine skipps happily out of the room*

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Sunday, July 2, 2000 08:40:34 PM
IP: phx-207.treknet.net


Christine, Jackal: <<necessitated us women having to make sure you men hung around to help out, provide, and protect. How best to do that?>>

or flip biology around to make people more like emus, rheas, etc: a male gathers a sizable harem of females together, gets them to lay their eggs, then chases them off. he hatches and takes care of the offspring all on his own.

occasionally, several father emu will meet up in their wanderings, forming a 'flock' of several dozen children. {remember: each female emu lays aroiund 3 eggs - at least 3 mates per male}......

how's _that_ for an alien society?? {or to you humans, anyway}.


Rodlox
Sunday, July 2, 2000 04:04:41 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Doug> Sorry, we don't do quotes next to our pictures cause our yearbook staff is crappy and slow. It sounds cool though.

Jannie> Cute picture :)

Warp> ;) We all wish.

Gside> My favorite piece was called "Into the Storm." Very strong.

SOROW
Sunday, July 2, 2000 03:46:02 PM
IP: dll2a030-0710.splitrock.net

*** WARNING: The following is the sickness induced rambling of what I like to call my mind. Were I healthy, this would likely never have made it passed the planning stage. You Have Been Warned. ***

It's all about personality. There are a number of people here who are strong-willed and have forceful personalities. People with strongly held opinions who aren't afraid to make their beliefs known. And then, there are those who are not forceful and would rather back down in the face of a possible confrontation. In other words, we are just like any other community.

Now, assuming that no one here is operating with malicious intent, which I am going to take for granted without overwhelming evidence, there are two problems that can arise from these personality conflicts.

1) When there is a disagreement in which one side is more forceful than the other, the less forceful one will usually give up. However, that side, and those who are sympathetic, will tend to see the more forceful one as being overbearing or bullying, even if that wasn't the intention.

2) When both sides are equally forceful, the confrontation will continue until either a stalemate is reached or a flame war breaks out.

In both cases, the "losing" side might feel unwelcome or forced out. That is probably reinforced when the majority of the room, who for the most part don't strike me as being terribly forceful, stays silent when a conflict occurs.

Which is better: forceful or not? I don't think that either is inherently better or worse, just different. Both types are found in any community and ours is no different. But, we DO all need to be more aware of it. While I consider myself to be strong-willed, I am definitely not what one would call forceful. I tend to prefer diplomacy and compromise, and I avoid conflict like the plague. Sometimes, however, that's not good enough.

The funny thing about conflicts between forceful people is that it seems to bring out all the other forceful personalities, on one side or the other, as well. The result is a lot of anger, sometimes repressed for a while, and people leaving in disgust. The real losers are those of us who aren't particularly forceful and are just interested in having fun discussions without being periodically subjected to these "clashes of the Titans."

Maybe what we need to do is, instead of keeping quiet and shaking our heads sadly, speak out when we see something disruptive. To be fair, we need to act AS A COMMUNITY because the community is being damaged.

I wasn't here when whatever happened between Aris and Jackal happened, and I don't really care what it was. Their continued fighting does no real damage to each other, but it does irreparable damage to our community in terms of people like Starsinger leaving in disgust and the general ill will among those who remain. Now, I don't want Jackal to leave, and I do want Aris to come back, I just wish they would see that WE are the ones they're hurting the most. For that matter, I wish Pistoff would come back too. He could be acerbic and annoying, and I don't agree with a lot of his opinions, but he always made things interesting. The aftermath of his leaving is what finally prodded me into posting for the first time.

Thank you to Starsinger, Cyborg, Doug, and Fire Storm for their comments on the situation. I hope other people decide to comment as well. Tell me what you think: am I right, am I wrong, am I a butt head? Say anything. Please.

Ok, I've rambled enough. I've never really been so forceful before. Maybe it's because I'm sick. Yeah, that's it! The fevered rantings of my delusional mind. Oh, wait; I'm always delusional. Never mind. :P

I hope no one takes this too personally, because it wasn't meant to be. I'm not really angry with anyone, and I'm certainly not looking for a fight. I'm just trying to be thought provoking in my own pathetic way.

Now, I guess I really should vote for some pictures. :)

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, July 2, 2000 03:38:45 PM
IP: ppp-22.rb5.exit109.com

22 contractions and abbreviations in my last big post? I can't count but less than a dozen.

What's with Yahoo Messenger? Lately, it's been lying about having new email in my account.

Hotmail and Excite the worst about losing email? Excite's the slowest place to check email with. Hotmail's super cookie hungry and wouldn't let me get in without a certificate. I am glad I don't use them anymore. Winterwolf, when you get a chance (if you haven't done so) please respond to my email with the subject "BFTS RP Communications".

GXB - funny how that looks can still keep a person from a job. I sometimes wonder if I don't look enough like the profession I want to go into. If you live in an ulter-conservative area, long hair is a determent. Otherwise, no one really cares anymore.

That's all folks.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, July 2, 2000 02:11:25 PM
IP: max1-16.cwy.cei.net

*** BLOCKBUSTER RANT ***

A couple weeks ago I re-applied at Blockbuster video for a job for the second time (the first time was in September). They said they still had my old app on file and they'd call me for an interview. The call has not come.

When they interviewed me in September, I know I made a good impression, and showed them that I could be a real asset to them, and they never replied. They instead hired morons. And I think they won't hire me because I have long hair (worn in a pony-tail), but of course they won't say that cause I can sue them.

I'm thinking about going back there, but I still wonder how I should handle this. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

*** END RANT ***

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, July 2, 2000 02:02:59 PM
IP: dialin-698-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Doug > thought I said right in the disclaimer that it was a sick and twisted tale ; )

GB > I told him about it, he said he'd read it, and that's all I know as of this moment.

Stephen > to quote the immortal Wordsworth, "That sucks." Or was that Tennyson? Either way, I know how much you want to see your family and the bundle of joy and all, but maybe if you told them no, and let them eat the cost of the ticket, they'd think twice before trying such another stunt. I'm not trying to say bad stuff about your kin here, but believe me, I know mean-spirited control freak tendencies when I see 'em! (in the mirror, mostly, takes one to know one).

jacKal > it's good to know you're not blaming the baby. Too many kids get it taken out on them for things that aren't their fault. As for the bit about pregnancy making all women whores, I see you've gotten some flak for that remark, but bear in mind that in a strictly biological/reproductive sense, yeah, it does. It has to. Nine months of vulnerability, the risk of death in childbirth, and being saddled with a helpless noisy needy kid necessitated us women having to make sure you men hung around to help out, provide, and protect. How best to do that? Hey-hey, sex. So I chose to look at your comment in the most global of senses, and took no offense. Or maybe it's because I'm more and more sure I was a brothel madame in a past life. ; )

Update > I did an overtime night shift last night, should be in bed by now (which is why I'm rambling; I do that when I'm overtired). Forgot my darn disk so I had to start a new project. The July "villains" issue of Sabledrake should be out sometime tomorrow.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, July 2, 2000 01:15:31 PM
IP: 15-115.009.popsite.net

Sorry for the second post, just one more thing:

Robby> What is your e- mail address?

Cyborg
Sunday, July 2, 2000 12:12:17 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

*Cyborg wanders in, looking only slightly less stressed. She sees that her formal name had been used, and chuckles* Drat, well Warpmind, I was waiting to see if you would figure it out for yourself (assuming that you are the same Warpmind, you never did answer that), I guess the 'secret' is out now.

Wilek><Have you tried using Character Map?> That worked when I was using the tool of the apocalypse (or maybe just the diskcalypse?) But I'm using (mostly) RedHat now.

Jackal><and now I got another baby on the way> How you are feeling right now really reminds me of how Steve, my boyfriend, was when I got pregnant. Don't worry about your rants on the subject, it's hard. By the way, just a guess, but the blue condom joke would not be appreciated right now, would it ;)

*Cyborg leaves, chuckling over Truly Tastless Jokes* When life is serious, laugh about it.

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Sunday, July 2, 2000 12:10:03 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Robby> I agree 110% with you concerning the Planet of the Apes remake. Some things are better left alone. You just shouldn't mess with classics. *nods* I have a friend who has the complete collection of original trading cards from the Planet of the Apes! hehehe

Lady M> I voted =) a fox picture!! *happy feet dance*

I'm on my way to Missouri today.... NINE wonderful days of being in the heart of the Ozarks, relaxation, seeing old classmates & friends that I grew up with, being spoiled by my mom, and entertained by my wacko baby brother ;) He's hilarious beyond belief! *giggles*
Anyway, it's my class reunion next weekend and I've been in charge of it, so wish me luck that it goes off without any complications and everyone enjoys themselves :)

Sorrow> strolling back thru memory lane for this class reunion has reminded me of this picture (click on my name)
I'm the one in the middle ;) It's an old black and white newspaper photo.

Starsinger> I understand what you are saying.... I personally don't think the parting shots taken at Pistoff were necessary though. That aside, I think that the disagreements that are said in here brings a "real life" feeling to the room. It's what makes this real and not just words on a screen. Life without some rain makes a desert. ok, I'm rambling now...
I guess I'm trying to say is that even though we come here to avoid or get away from the conflicts and turmoils of our "IRL" - it can't be avoided 100% of the time.... because we ARE humans and because this is as real as it gets online. There are real people behind the words and most are friends on and off line. Sometimes there are flare ups and sometimes people come in and make really stupid and offensive remarks - but all in all, life is good here and *most* people in here are mature and settle their differences within a few days. I think it adds a little spice in life and keeps things from getting boring ;)

well, time to finish loading the car for my trip! Take care and I will see ya'll again in 9 days!

*grabs Denis and stows him away in the backseat* c'mon hon, I'll show you what a REAL hillbilly looks like! ;)
je t'aime le plus!! tu es l'amour de ma vie!!!!!

Jannie
Sunday, July 2, 2000 09:16:33 AM
IP: 209-144-251-91.hou.port.mytelco.com

*Warpmind enters, casually sporting a broadaxe, which he spontaneously uses to decapitate DC.* I meant that. Cyber-cookie to whoever gets the reference first. ;)

Shadowrider: No need to rush; keep it until Wednesday, if you like; we have some reports to sift through, anyway, and won't need it before thursday, anyway. :)

Janine: Heh, the only one I'd like in addition to Pikachu is Meowth. An extra bonus would be living ones; particularly if I got a Meowth just like Team Rocket's; talking and all. :)

Sorow: Stone gargoyles? Oh... pity, eh? ;)

*Goes silent for a minute or so, in memory of Walter Matthau.*

Gside: Dude, I'm not saying I *need* to use that particular bible (which is a printed book, and not a digital version) for my ficwork; I just say that with the current packing work in my life, I don't really have the *time* to search for either that nor another bible. Thus, it seems my writing is on a break for now. :( Oh, and as for the music choices, well, I kinda dig Beethoven's Fifth or Ninth, for quite obvious reasons. :) As for Silent Bob and Jay, well, I'll see if I can't find something...

Oh, and I just voted. :) Um, oops... pressed the button twice, since it didn't seem to update. :| Sorry.

Well, adieu; gotta run.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, July 2, 2000 07:46:09 AM
IP: mp-217-198-1.daxnet

<<Are you going to release the complete results to the voting when it is over? ~ Gside>>
Yes. But only if we get more votes. ;)

<<I thought you might want it to be mostly anonymous... ~ Gside>>
Well, we first planned on it being anonymous, but then we decided it would be easier for someone to change their votes with the use of their name. It's also easier for someone to find out if I recieved their vote if their name is in the results. :)


Winterwolf = FS and I can't get email through to your excite account. (FYI, someone in Aimee's CR said that email reliability is poor with excite and hotmail.) We'll try sending it to your wildmail one. And I never recieved your vote. Please send your votes via regular email. (Read the Voting FAQ, it'll explain a bit more about this.)


EVERYONE = Please vote using the form or email if you haven't already voted. And whether you have voted already or not, PLEASE READ THE FAQ. (It's the link at the top of the voting page.) If you are having trouble with the voting mechanism just send your votes via email.


Doug & Kit = I thank you for your efforts (re: "saying this takes less time than
checking every box on the form"). But please don't vote for EVERY pic. I understand that you may like all of them but voting for all pics doesn't help us in anyway. Please read the FAQ to understand more fully what I mean. And please use the form.


Thanks to all who gave congratulations on my sister's graduation. We have yet to plan a party... who knows, at this rate we'll probably be having the graduation party by the time the one year anniversary arrives. (Same goes for mine and FS's anniversary. We have yet to celebrate it. :( )


FS's job situation =

Well, he's been away from Office Depot for a little over a year now. And nearly unemployed just as long. Resume's have been sent all over the place (some even down in Toledo, Ohio - c.75 miles south one way!) FS sent in resumes to those job-finder websites 9 months ago. We just got a confirmation that one site just processed his resume! 9 MONTHS! That's something you really don't think about. With all the applications each one of those sites must get the large lag on processing time is understandable. But still...

And of the call backs he's recieved, most are either asking for quallifications way over his experience level (and usually unnecessary for the job required) or the job wasn't worth the pay (expenses concerning gasoline, lunches, car repairs due to the job, etc and FS usually being overqualified).

The last place he worked was at Dynamic Comp. I hope FS lets himself rant about it when he feels ready. The same applies to his experiences with the "troublemaker" at Office Depot. (Yes, many bad things happened. Yes, both of us have been negatively affected by what happened. No, ranting about all of it once won't help. Especially since it seems that we will never get away from it -- not with OD on his resume.)


<<I would have liked to work in a music store, but then I would be tempted to spend all my money where I work. ~ SOROW>> 2 things I'm reminded of upon reading this statement: 1) Empire Records, and 2) Fire Storm while he was working at Office Depot. :)


One more thing for tonight...


Okay here's a list of the following people whom I have recieved votes from (If you are not on the list please vote or email me for confirmation if you already have.):

Name=Known:

- Green Baron
- Ordell
- Brooklyn (Future Tense Brooklyn)
- Gside
- Fire Storm
- Spike / WD Hayden
- Wilek Nereus
- Stephanie D Curtin

Name=Unknown ; email username (minus domain name):

- rman40
- sigma28


Here's a list of those I have recieved empty emails from (Please vote via email.):

- Alan D'Avanzo
- Robby

Name=Unknown ; email username (minus domain name):

- samrx5


That's all for now...

Lady Mystic - [<-- CR PICS VOTE!!!]
Dearborn, MI
Sunday, July 2, 2000 05:46:32 AM
IP: 1cust28.tnt3.det3.da.uu.net

<Shadowrider enters yawning>

It's good to wake in the morning and find a fairly tense atmosphere in the CR...oh, well, I'll ignore it as I can.

Starsinger:> Sorry, I missed your message last time. I'm sad of hearing you are leaving, and I hope it will be just for a while. I understand your reasons, and I think you probably decided so after reflection, so nothing I could say will make you change idea. I hope to see you here again soon, you'll be missed in the meantime.
See you.

Fire Storm:> Totally agree with your words about this CR's atmosphere. Sometimes I, too, don't like some things I find written here, but hey...everyone has his own opinions, and no one forces me to read them if I don't like.
About new pics voting...I tried to vote by the page you posted a tenth times, all unsuccessfully. Then I sent a email with my votes, a three days ago...did it arrive?

Later probably.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Sunday, July 2, 2000 04:38:46 AM
IP: h255-20-6.mi2.albacom.net

Hey!
Hmmm... Sucks....

Bronx- I already gave my deepest, sincerest apology for that...

Robby- Sounds like work n stuff has you tired and woren out. Believe me I know how that can be. I've had a very exhausting day at wurk today, myself. And the last thing I want to do is worry anybody, ya know, I don't wanna hear that my presence worries sumbody. But I'm not gonna leave over it, I like the ppl in here too much to let sumone upset me enuf as to where I wouldn't come back in here.
So, I don't see where you get off talkin to me like a 5 year old. I am 23 and quite aware of what I should and shouldn't be doing, no one needs to tell me. Do I make sum bad decisions? Yeah, that's obvious! But don't talk to me like I'm 5.

And usually when I post in here, it's my true feelings about *anything*, I'm sorry you don't care that.

For the ppl that have expressed their concern for things now and in the past, thank you for NOT being like the "administrator".

After reading this, Robby, do whatever you see fit. But nothing... Nothing... will stop from postin in here, I love these ppl too much.

Anyway..., where's a gud place to buy CDs online?????

JackaL
Sunday, July 2, 2000 03:00:43 AM
IP: ac863011.ipt.aol.com

DERN LOT BOYS!

That last line should have read:

(All we need is 20 people to vote! And with at least 35 posters in this CR, that's only 50% of the posters in this room!)

Fire Storm
Sunday, July 2, 2000 02:49:34 AM
IP: 1cust186.tnt5.det3.da.uu.net

Warpmind: <Got the e-mail, and those pics were wonderful>
Ah. I see. I saw your site with the updated pictures. I am glad you like them!

The first decade of the 21st century: The decade of sequels!

Gside: Come on man! I need my MP3 fix! I am hurting! :)

Cyborg: <Sent my vote via e- mail to Lady Mystic. (Did she get it?)>
Yes she did, and thanks for voting!

Green Baron: <Rambo would eb godo againts them>
Sorry, you've lost me. Who?

Wilek: <Any chance of doing one of the Seraphim if I provide a very rough sketch? ^_^>
I'll see. The only reason I did the Tie Predator is because all I had to do was clone a wing. THAT is easy. I have yet to figure out 3d Studio MAX. IF it is just cut-and-paste from a few different models, I might be able to do that. If I have to actually model something... sorry, not yet.
Besides... I have the Tie-Dest to work on too!
Tie-X: Check out this page at the Star Wars Modeling Aliance. http://www.swma.net/archives/other/fighters/fighters.php

Starsinger: I am sorry to see you go. I will agree that this place may not be as relaxing as it once was. Aris posted? As "That I almost never post"?
Dang. Well, I know he had his reasons for leaving. I am glad to hear that he is still reading this.

Hi Aris!

We have lost FAR too many good posters due to other people in this CR. FOR THE LOVE OF THIS CR, MAKE IT STOP!
If you must complain about a person, fine, but PLEASE keep it to a minimum. I may not like a few posters in here and a few down right drive me crazy, but I do not yell at them, flame them or whatever. I ignore them.
But come on people! We have lost a MINIMUM of 7 posters in here in the past year alone from this crap!
Now we add yet another poster to this already far too long list. And a rather nice poster I may say. Who's next to go? Someone equally nice?
And no, I will not leave this CR because of this. I like the fandom too much to loose contact with it.
TO EVERYONE WHO HAS LEFT: PLEASE come back and just ignore whoever did you wrong. At the very least, let it be known that you have left this CR because of some unpleasentness (but please don't mention names or start flames.)
Show how many fine posters have been lost to this CR, possibly forever.
Can't we just all get along? Or at the very least, agree to disagree?

NOTE: The non-relaxing nature of this CR is why Lady Mystic does not post too often. She dosn't post because she dosn't feel the need to add to flame wars and angry debates. Besides, theres enough negative stuff in her life. She dosn't want to come into here to find more.

Because of this fandom we were able to get 20K+ votes in the USA today voting. We only need 1/10 of 1% of those people voting in that to vote for the new CR pics!
(And there are at least 35 regular posters in here. Thats only 50% of people in this CR!)

Fire Storm - [<--- You haven't voted yet? Why not? Don't you LIKE this CR?]
Sunday, July 2, 2000 02:33:41 AM
IP: 1cust61.tnt5.det3.da.uu.net

Oops, that got out a little early. To continue:

SOROW> <<clarinet>>: Quite a good instrument. many good pieces for it: Clarinet Polka, When I'm Sixty-Four, Marche des Parachutistes Belges... Plus, I can't say anything bad about it since my mother is one. In case you are wondering sax over here (I've covered four flavors so far, really hoe to get in on some contrabass action eventually).

Doug/SOROW> senior quotes: Thought I'd share mine: "To appreciate nonsense requires serious interest in life." Galett Burgess

Mary Flanders> Congratulations on the good grades.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
New Brunswick, NJ
Sunday, July 2, 2000 02:16:52 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Diablo II is so much fun. There is now a much better reason to have a staff (they all habe basically a limited form of the angel's- attribute). And I named my soreress (still haven't gotten around to rogue and warrior in I yet) Perky. Sluggy fans, tell me why.

Janine> CD to mp3: You need a new program, called a ripper, such as AudioCatalyst. Chances are, it'll be semi-hard to find a freeware ripper (or I didn't try hard enough), so either you will need to pay, or you could try going to my link. Please tell me which you do (or that you got what you need) because I am now over my quota.

Warpmind> <<I have misplaced my bible in the moving efforts I'm going through>>: If it's in the public domain, it's never lost. I know that there are many online bibles, such as http://bible.gospelcom.net/ which has nine versions.
<<I see several comments about Jay and Silent Bob. Who the <Censored> are they?>>: They are two characters from the movies of Kevin Smith, played by Kevin Smith (SB) and Jason Mewes (Jay). They tend to lend a sense of continuity to his movies, and much comedic relief.

Fare thee well, Starsinger.

Wilek> <<Shopping and video game news? (Well, that's what I mainly use it for...)>>: I'm mostly here now for online comics, this, and emu news. But you know I was talking about what tends to crop up in the most innocuous searches when it's the least thing from your mind...
<<[Mu has been used] a name for a dark force that causes worlds to cease to exist or something, so I imagine it's related to some Japanese collective unconscious thing.>>: That reminded me of an entry in the jargon lexicon, which I have decided to recopy here (it contains the Japanese definition of Mu):
mu: /moo/ The correct answer to the classic trick question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". Assuming that you have
no wife or you have never beaten your wife, the answer "yes" is wrong because it implies that you used to beat your wife and
then stopped, but "no" is worse because it suggests that you have one and are still beating her. According to various
Discordians and Douglas Hofstadter the correct answer is usually "mu", a Japanese word alleged to mean "Your question
cannot be answered because it depends on incorrect assumptions". Hackers tend to be sensitive to logical inadequacies in
language, and many have adopted this suggestion with enthusiasm. The word `mu' is actually from Chinese, meaning `nothing'; it
is used in mainstream Japanese in that sense, but native speakers do not recognize the Discordian question-denying use. It
almost certainly derives from overgeneralization of the answer in the following well-known Rinzei Zen koan:

A monk asked Joshu, "Does a dog have the Buddha nature?" Joshu
retorted, "Mu!"

DPH> <<Can anyone count the total number of abbreviations and contractions use in this post?>>: I count twenty two, with liberal definitions of abbreviation and post.

Warpmind> music to slay by: I seriously suggest Holst's Mars, if the five/four doesn't bother you. And if you go with 1812, you can join in on the fun (I do believe a shokwave would carry enough particles to give you a variation on a boom).

SOROW> <<clarinet>>

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, July 2, 2000 01:55:50 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hmm, less comments on my, er... ISaac Payne's Timedancer filk than I thought there would be. *Shrugs* Hope ya'll enjoyed the piece at any rate, I sprent a good deal of time working on it. (My filking that song is starting to become an annual event now...) WHat I think is really CREEPY though, and I never intended for it to happen, is that Reboot's season 3 finale (which had the inspiration for the filk) aired the same day the Timedancer season three finale aired. THis after the episode that inspired RUby EYes aired the same day as Ruby Eyes. Creepy.

Been very busy all this week, working from like 9-6, not counting wake up and travel time... I've been exhausted and falling asleep as soon as I've gotten home all week, but its been worth it! Soon, Antarctic Press will be releasing books I helped to color! Yes!

Gasper- Everything I said to you was in attempt to allow the other RPers to have more fun in the RP without you taking up the entire spotlight or making the RP very Dragonball Z based, which I thought would be confusing for the RPers who don't watch DBZ. In my past RPs I've used the SPirit Bomb/Genki Dama, but I have kept the references and ideas down to a minimum, or explained them with a fair ammount of detail for those who do not watch the show. Perhaps what I typed out sounded a lot harsher than I meant, that's the problem with a written forum. I am sorry you have taken offense at this and have left us. I am sending you an e-mail with this same basic text if you don't respond in a couple of days, but there aren't any harsh feelings man.

Planet of APes remake- Unless it looks *REALLY* cool, I refuse to see this, even if they DO have Burton behind it. Its a classic, and if its actually just a remake, well, the most dramatic moment is already spoiled. And if its a revision, well, that'll just be too annoying because I'll keep comparing to the original and saying how it was better. (Similar to the Nutty Proffessor. GAWD that Eddie Murphey movie lacked... ANd now there's a sequal. Oii...)If its a totally different movie with the same concept, I'll be annoyed it kept the title. Lose/lose/lose situation here...

Jackal- I'll be honest, your return worries me. Usually when you post here I do not care for most of the things you have to say or the havoc you often bring to this CR with your postings that disregard the rules. However, I am CR administrator, you have been gone a long while, and so I have to be fair about this, my personal feelings put aside. Watch what you say and try to consider how others will feel before saying it. If you play nice and follow the rules, there will be no trouble, okay? If you can behave and follow the rules this time around, I hold nothing against you and you are welcome here.

Return to Paradise- Glad to see the story is being well recieved. I'd originally planned to, like in RUby EYes, do about a dozen illustrations, but the procrastination demon combined with RL art that needed to be done and three stories at once just got to me. AH well, I'm proud of the illos and the writing on that one... Alan should also be proud of the stuff he did with Harthoth and Stephen did the original hatching scene for the most part, he deserves a good deal of credit for that All in all, I'm pleased with how things turned out. (I have a few problems with part one, but that was mostly done well too...)

Theresa- I hate to see you go, especially since you left before and it feels only recently came back. If you see this, I hope you reconsider.

Spacebabie- I don't know if its been released domestically or if its just available through fansubs at the moment, but also try to find a copy of Outlaw Star. FUn series. SO is Trigun, which I know is available now...

**Moment of silence for Walter Matthau**



Doug- Arrg! You just keep cranking these stories out, but like everyone else's stuff, I can't read them because I'm on TGS staff! Arrg! SOmeday I'll be able to read all this other stuff... (But if you ever do anything non garg-related, be sure to let me know!)

Moster Rancher- After you got past the first episode, it was in my opinion, the best of the three Monster series. (Pokemon, Digimon, and Rancher). It had the better voice talent, (Digimon has RIni from Sailor Moon after all, and Pokemon stole the entire Slayers cast which is just wierd for me...) it had the best character interaction and growth, the most menacing villains, the best animation (They didn't always have the best monsters tho, all the giant eyeballs were creepy...) and other than changing Raiga's name to "Tiger" (which sounds really sappy since he's a wolf) the series was overall the best and most serious of the three. (Digimon has its moments, but their solution to EVERY problem is to Digivolve, and while Pokemon has about ten really good eps, it also has about 90 more not so good ones...) All in all, Monster Rancher was IMO the better of the three series. And as far as the villain being named Mu, at least they kept the original name rather than calling him something like say... Tiger. They clearly didn't have that much creativity when it came to making up dubbed names... What sucks is, it was also the shortest run series here, so unless we get a second season (And I haven't heard any news on that front) we only get 26 episodes and none of the plotlines resolved. I've seen episode 29 in raw Japanese tho...

***RP HERE***

SJ stared at Jim, then stared at the girl Jim had reffered to as Kitty.
"Kari never told me she had a sister! ANd Jim, you never..."
Jim Iza Noying shrugged. "You never asked."
SJ just stared. Kitty spoke up. "If you don't mind, holding open a portal between Earth and hell takes a lot of energy. And there's a fairly fierce battle going on right now that could use your help."
Part of SJ's entourage blinked. "What battle?"
"Why, with number 4 of the Ten. She just raised her power level up a notch by going through a transformation. She's at 3,500,000..."
"What? How are we supposed to help with..." The son of Sevarius began.
"Don't worry, I think I spotted a serious weakness in 4's abilities before coming here. Now, let's leave..." With a flash, the group dissapeared.

Back at the fight with the 4, Sammael watched as two demons went toe to toe with the enemy. He glanced at Kari and wondered why she wasn't fighting. With her being the avatar of Athena and all, she could be of some help here... He would have to ask her about it when the fight was over... And then suddenly, he felt something. When Kitty's group reappeared, he knew what had happened. He turned, and looked at SJ. Who apparently wasn't dead. And who apparently had a new flesh and blood body... "Well, this could get interesting..."

Robby
Sunday, July 2, 2000 12:40:42 AM
IP: spider-ta085.proxy.aol.com

*sighs flipping off the 10:00 news*

A moment of silence for a great actor, Walter Matthau


..........

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 10:46:48 PM
IP: spider-mtc-tc021.proxy.aol.com

*enters*

Dudsies! Peoples! I got my grades in today!

German 4-> B-

Photagraphy-> A+

American Literature-> A

Chemistry-> B

Algebra 2/ Trigonometery-> B

G.P.A.-> 3.40

Hell stinkin' yeah!!!!!!!!! The best part is, I did better then my sister did in chemistry when she was in the 11th grade. ^_^ I'm soooooo happy I got an A in American Lit. I LOVE reading stuff!!! This fall I'm taking Creative Writing and California Literature. I orginally signed up for The Novel, but not enough people signed up for that so I had to take something else.
Also, my parents finally gave in for my fasination with Japanese stuff and bought a kimono for me online. :):):) I posted the link to show which one I'm getting.

Talk to you guys later!

*GONE*

Mary Flanders
Saturday, July 1, 2000 10:45:07 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

**SHAMELESS PLUG**

To all who have been waiting- Night of the Symbiotes Part 3, the thrilling conclusion to the story, is now finished and posted at GFW. If you wish to, go and read!

**END PLUG**

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 10:02:59 PM
IP: pool-207-205-147-227.dlls.grid.net

Really, Really, short post.

**RP RELATED**
Guys, I have a slight problem with color coordination on the BFTS RP information files. If anyone could glance at the link and email suggested color combinations, I would be very gratefull.
**END RP RELATED**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 09:27:05 PM
IP: max1-40.cwy.cei.net

My mistake. Walter Matthau was 79. Sorry.
Doug
Saturday, July 1, 2000 07:46:49 PM
IP: pool-209-138-60-220.dlls.grid.net

<The RP screen flickers to life, only this time it is not displaying an RP. Instead, Doug stands in the middle of a yard around a nice little house dressed in typical elderly man's clothing. A kid going by on a bike yells, "Hey Mr. Wilson!" at him and barely even acknowledges, making a face that declares he wants the kid to go away. Then he turns and walks up the drive to the house on the way telling his annoyingly neat and proper roommate Felix to go away so he can be messy and immoral again, and grumpily arguing with his elderly fishing-crazed neighbor (both of whom look suspicously like Jack Lemmon). Finally he takes the arm of Kitainia, who's in a red dress and done up like Sophia Loren, and they go into the house together. The door shuts. There is a flash of light, and Doug appears standing in front of the screen in his normal clothes and looking solemn. He reaches over and clicks it off.>

A moment of silence for great comedic actor Walter Matthau, who passed away today at the ripe old age of 78. The roles I will remember him most for I have just re-enacted. I will miss the man very much. <sigh> We didn't want him to go away, even if he often made a career out of telling other people to do just that. :(

SOROW: You know, each senior picks a quote to go beside their picture in the yearbook. Something inspiring, meaningful, and that can evoke the memories one will have of that person. <chuckles> Mine was pretty dorky, cause I took a long time in picking it and all the good ones got taken. Just wondering what yours was going to be. If you're not doing it, that's fine too. Thanks for the answer.

Off to try and finish Night of the Symbiotes 3.

Doug
Saturday, July 1, 2000 07:44:09 PM
IP: pool-209-138-60-220.dlls.grid.net

*turns off the lurk button, spreading seeds of serenity around* There.. that should take care of the possible flames.. hehe
Well Hello everyone! I just had enough enegy to come over and post. Work is such a pain. As normal.

Tim Burton> ::swoons:: Ohhh yeah! I cant wait to see the remake of planet of the apes. The classic was awesome as well, but with his magic touch- well hehe it will be good.

Crzy> Ahhhh your so lucky! =) Hope you saved some other Slayers stuff for others while you were there.

GB> ::hugs and kisses back:: Wow.. hehe the more the merrier. LoL (no please dont think of me that way!)

*celebrity sightings*
Wow! I guess that work has some good sides to it. I spotted 2 celebs today... Well at least I think.
The first one was Robert Vaun (he's everywhere, look on Disney, a guarentee) And... (I think it was him) Rene Auberjonois (who played Odo on Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
It was so cool though! ^_^
*end sighting!*

**TD Spoilers**
I really enjoyed the season finale... heheh.. control over the weather.. and.. ::hesitant to ask:: what's up with Lex? Is he apart of the computer now... ::shrugs:: ah well. Good ep!
**End TD Spoliers***

Jackal> Please dont diss all the mothers in the world.. you had and came from one.

Chicken Run> I've not seen it yet.. but it does catch my eye. Perhaps soon.. Heheh I also must see shaft!

hmm.. now did I miss anything? Proably that's a yes. More laters!





Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 05:56:53 PM
IP: spider-wd012.proxy.aol.com

Warp> They were stone gargoyles. My personal collection.

Gside> clarinet.

Doug> Ummmm, what quote are you talking about? We may not do that at our school.

****SPOILERS FOR TD****
Everyone keeps asking about the Timedancer journals that are shown in the future. My theory, Sata wrote those for Harthoth in exchange for passage to any place/time of their choosing as Harthoth offered in RtP 2. It only seems logical to me.
****END SPOILERS****

SOROW
Saturday, July 1, 2000 04:31:59 PM
IP: dll2a020-0523.splitrock.net


Kitainia: <<the villain being named Moo (what kind of serious bad guy has a name like that?)>>

what, you didn't know cows are teh Master Race destined to conquer the worlds? <G>


on another possible reason {no cows here, though you'll wish there were}, Mu was one of the Mythical island-continents envisioned by Europeans during the Age of Exploration {along with Atlantis and Lemuria}.

Mu's natives averaged 17 or 18 feet tall, were hermaphrodites {insert Woody Allen quote about doubling your chances of getting a date}, and could see both in front of and behind them.

and Castaway's worried about _Gargoyles_??

{starts laughing, and taking shelter from anything somebody might throw at me}.

Rodlox
Saturday, July 1, 2000 03:58:14 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

*janine walks in a little frazzled around the edges*

My other computer froze up:( Its just a quickie posty.

Warpmind> I also have a plush Togepi! He is the cutest pokemon aside from Pikachu of course.

*janine walks out dreading the day ahead of her*

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmial.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 02:59:37 PM
IP: phx-243.treknet.net

In anime related news....

CHAT: CHIHO SAITO, ARTIST AND CO-CREATOR, REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA
Saturday, July 1, at 10PM ET
(7PM PT/3AM UK time)
http://www.scifi.com/chat
*********************************************************************
Chat with CHIHO SAITO, the Japanese manga artist who's best known for
co-creating REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA and the upcoming new anime film
THE ADOLESCENCE OF UTENA. This is the first of a series of chats that
will focus exclusively on anime.

Summer reading: Just out -- "Hit Man" by Lawrence Block. I've been reading his short stories in Play about a neurotic hitman for some time now and they're finally been put in book form. Excellent reading!

Spike
Saturday, July 1, 2000 02:11:03 PM
IP: pppt03-104.ght.iadfw.net

Dr Isaac Payne>>>LOL enjoyed that bit and a nodd to Reboot... Whoo-hoo.

DPH>>> Rini did explaine that was sent back to train. The bit of her wand not working right is supposed to be for comedey. Now by counting the episodes on tape and by the five day Toonami weeks. You will get to see Amara and Michelle transform on Tuesday...Friday everyone will know who is who...and WOW does Mina have Stamina!

Crzy>>> Anime Expo?! You are sooo lucky! sometime this upcoming week I plan on buying a few tapes of anime that is not yet featured on the networks...I'm thinking of buying one tape each of Magic Knight Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi, and Slayers, Anyone got any other sugestions?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, July 1, 2000 01:42:56 PM
IP: user-37kapfo.dialup.mindspring.com

Hi to everyone. Having a good weekend?

Warpmind:> Found the TIE as previded, thank you a lot. Already done a test flight, I have to admit it is fairly exceptional. The modifications are OK, they'll suit prefectly my needs...I'll return the craft tomorrow in early afternoon, washed and waxed of course. Thank you again! ;)

Wilek:> I think I agree. From Trek there are just three ships I really like: The Bird of Prey, the Romulan Warhawk and the U.S.S. Defiant...

Kyryn:> Battleships models: It took me a while, but I found something. It is not much, I fear.
The "H.P. Srl" (a semi-artigianal factory) produces models both for the Littorio and for the Roma. Both of the models are 1:700 scale, are in assembly kit and are made in resin. Cost for both is £210.000, equivalent to about $ 100 at current exchange rate. I could see the kit for the Littorio: I'm not an expert, but it seems to me quite well-done and detailed.
The problem for both is the availability: the shop where I obtained the infos had one exemplar of the Littorio, but not of the Roma, and since it is a semi-artigianal factory, delivery times are on the order of several months.
I also found another kit for the Roma, produced by a factory called "Regia Marina". It's always 1:700, I couldn't see it so I can't say about the quality. Price is of £ 136.000, equivalent to about $ 60. Availability seems easier for that one.
It's all I could find by now. I'll try to find something more in next days.

Hope I missed nothing...
Bye bye!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Saturday, July 1, 2000 01:09:26 PM
IP: h255-22-10.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, grinning sheepishly at Doug.*
Um, dude, sorry 'bout that little continuity glitch... let's just say I arrived briefly before Mephisto was smacked down, and I've avoided detection so far, 'kay? :)

Wilek: Ah, the TIE Seraphim, it is mainly on the scetchboard at present? Well... maybe the Predator Mark II will require some add-ons from the Seraphim design, then, with your permission... deal? :) Oh, and we got the uplink system you mentioned (or rather, an equivalient version) for internet access. I'm tellin' you, FF8 music can be fun, but putting the hammer down on an enemy starfighter while YMCA blares out of the speakers is PRICELESS! Plus, my private Predator is equipped with a transmissions interceptor... I'm tellin' you, hammering the enemy with laser blasts while booming the Macarena into his ears is HIGHLY demoralizing. ]:) Oh, and no, no nanofabrication facility... just a huge crew of engineers. (But hey, still, considering they spent three days on those ten prototypes, it's an impressive feat.) And as for your comment last week about the mansion, sorry, I must have missed it... :(

**RP (tru, two within a day, but now just to fix continuity glitches)**
Warpmind scurries down the corridors, strangely enough without encountering anyone.
"Ah, this is the right hallway, her cell should be just down here..."
Several loud noises boom through the station.
"What the... sounds like some oversized fight is going on; in an arena-type chamber, if I ever learned anything about acoustics... ah, well, first the Quencher, then the fight... I might need her."
Meanwhile, the battle agains Nine ensues in the arena room of the Avatar.
**RP END**

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:47:41 PM
IP: mp-217-217-237.daxnet.no

DPH shifts into weekend mode which means no BFTS RP this weekend from him and the use of contractions outside of RP.

**SAILER MOON RELATED**
Now, I'm confused. Why bring the little brat back as Sailor Mini-Moon. What's up with Sailor Mini-Moon's powers not working 100% of the time? Is that some sorta plot development going on? Do Sailor Uranus and Neptune ever reveal their identities to Sailor Moon? I keep seeing the same basic formula for every episode now and when does the mold finally get broken?
**END SAILOR MOON RELATED**

*DPH opens a portal and out comes a crate full of . . . water guns of every kind in the CR room. DPH thought since the room was full of insanity, he would have water guns readilly available in case anyone decides to go on a shooting spree.*

Daniel Johnson - I confess that whenever I get ready to post a comment, I open a new windows and refresh the room from time to time when I'm writing a long post like this one.

Any comments on the Fox Kids new design for their website? BTW, why do they keep redesigning the website?

I watched a show about how the internet came around a while back. It was really interesting for a nerd.

BTW, since the Pretender is off the air, is there that somebody will pick it up in syndication?

Let's see. Can anyone count the total number of abbreviations and contractions use in this post?

That's all for today folks.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 11:59:42 AM
IP: max1-7.cwy.cei.net

Brooklyn> <<probably not enought room to keep even on episode for very long. I'll probably end up putting up 1 episode a week in the order they aired.>> Hm...have you tried www.spaceports.com? I think they give something like 999 MB of space, either that or just infinite...<<Does anybody here no the Christine Morgan story were Jericho and Demona consumate their relationship? I want to read it!>> Got a spreading cataract and just want to get it over with? ;P (j/k, Christine)

Gside> <<we did invent the internet (or was that Al Gore?), and you know what its main purpose currently is...>> Shopping and video game news? (Well, that's what I mainly use it for...)

Niamhgold> <<I'm on my way to check it out as soon as I post!>> ^_^ If you have trouble downloading, ye might try getting Musicmatch Jukebox at www.musicmatch.com. :)

Archwolf> <<The Bakuran's developed a smal hyperdrive motivator without safeties. They chain-linked 10 of them on a heavy cruiser druing the Center-Point/Starbuster incident. What happens, is that the first motivator keeps on going till basically the interdiction field causes it to explode. The ship coasts along for a second or two, then the next cuts in. It blows out very quickly, but covers a great deal of distance. The whole thing is like a gargoyle riding blast-wave to gain altitude or velocity.>> Ah...any chance of me getting a few of those for the TIE Seraphim? :)

Shadowrider> <<Klingon Bird of Prey: now THAT is a cool ship...>> Oh yes. 8) It's one of my favorite Trek ships, which is saying a lot since there are quite a few I like...

Grinz> <<The guy sneaks into my room, taunts my Friends, hacks my mail! <i really shouldn't of taught him how to hack...> <<My fault he knows <Hits self in the head,> And sends mails to my friends! Then I got two little bro's so their always getting me POed.>> Ack... O_o How good are you at hiding corpses?

SJ> <<Fox Animation Studios, after a string of disappointments....well, let's be honest, after nothing BUT disappointments....will be closing its studio.>> Oh no. :( <sigh> Hopefully this at least won't affect the DVD release of Titan AE...And I agree with you about Dinosaur. It's starting to look like one of those movies I'll be seeing for no other reason than the admittedly excellent animation (it's primary redeeming feature), like Tarzan and A Bug's Life... :/ <<I love their debute album, "Mer de Noms". Christ, it's a beautifully dark album.>> Sea of Names? Hm...interesting...<<Personally, I think castration is too good for those guys.>> I'm thinking, flesh-eating virus... >:) <<America gets its name from low-ranking sailor Amerigo Vespucci, who managed to scam his name onto maps. His only real claim to fame during his time was being the first popular pornographer of the New World. His letters about his travels described in lewd detail the sex lives of Native Americans and become a natural bestseller back in Europe.>> <blink> OK...explains a lot, really... <note to self: when in control, change name of nation to...I don't know, the United States of Irving?> <<flesh-eating dogs>> Or bees? Or dogs with bees in their mouths so when they bark they shoot bees? ;P

Kitainia> <<the villain being named Moo (what kind of serious bad guy has a name like that?)>> I always thought it was the greek letter Mu. It's also been used in Final Fantasy 5 (if I'm not mistaken), as a name for a dark force that causes worlds to cease to exist or something, so I imagine it's related to some Japanese collective unconscious thing.

Robby> <<Disney is nice about the garg fandom right now because we're free advertising, but I doubt they'd take kindly to online versions of their shows being aired and potentially costing them profit or viewership...>> Ack, I hadn't thought of that. :/

Winterwolf> <<Which would you choose if given the choice? The choices are QuickTime, Real Player, Windows Media Player or a different player. Right now I'm leaning towards QuickTime and Real Player.>> Realplayer; much smaller downloads.

Jackal> <<I've fought with the DA, I've fought with lawyers, I've fought with police officers, I've fought with theRAPISTS, I've fought with family, I've fought with strangers, and now I got another baby on the way, and I can't help but think, "What, has ur stupid ass never heard of birth control?" And when I even hinted @ abortion I got my head ripped off, I'm soo terrified of bringing another child into the world. At sum point sumwhere I went down the wrong path for my life. I'm soo f***ed, nothing can fix this.>> Oh man... :( I don't have a clue how to help here...except to say that we're always here, to listen and at least give emotional support...

Warpmind> <<I dunno, Wilek, considering the specs for the TIE Predator, it looks kinda pesky, no offense...>> Well it's not finished, is it. ;) The final version will have twin armament pods and sublight acceleration motors like the Missile Boat, along with a Voorhees Unreality Engine (interlinked cloaking device, interphase generator, and subspace inverter). >:) I'm thinking it'll also be accessorized with an onboard PC uplinked to the mainframe on Earth (which has Internet connections) via the Holonet. Great for MP3s (laser-drilling enemy capitol ships into oblivion is much more fun with A Premonition from Final Fantasy 8 in the background). ^_^ <<Well, my engineers have performed admirably; ten prototypes are constructed.>> Only ten? I'm guessing you don't have access to a nanofabrication facility? ;) <<I guess Wilek and I and whoever else is in on it ought to get going for real...>> <hehehe> Did you see my post last week (I think) about the mansion? >:)

Kyryn> <<when we came back, we found out that Okami's remaining grandmother had passed away. The good thing was that it was quick.>> Oh no. :( Sincerest condolences...

Mecord> <<Of course they added that nice little plot twist that the original mind is separated from the body so they still need to find the lost mind.>> Maybe they should look here; we're nothing *but* lost minds. ;) <<Supposedly Mozart was that way as well as other great composers. Maybe we’re in the wrong business.>> Possibly...unfortunately, I can create music, but I don't have the skill to play it or write it down. :/

**TGS SPOILERS**

So...they have weather control, Lex is now part of the computer, and Coyote is still around (would have liked a pic, but oh well ^_^)...fascinating. Great story and pics, as usual. ^_^

DPH> <<Why does not Lexington show up as a real gargoyle?>> It's possible that he isn't anymore...

**END**

Emambu> <<My great uncle died a few nights ago from a massive heart attack.>> Not another loss in the family. :( Condolences to you as well...

Cyborg> Welcome back! :D <<For some odd reason I was under the impression that the first two seasons of "Gargoyles" was produced by Paramount, and when it was so successfull, Disney bought up the rights to it. Why have I been thinking this?>> Maybe because of all the Trek actors (Star Trek was produced by Paramount)? Or because Gargoyles is so...un-Disneylike? ;) <<You know, not being able to use les accents is really getting to be a problem for me.>> Have you tried using Character Map?

Fire Storm> <<I also have a nice Tie-Xwing>> You too? :) I have an X-Wing with TIE Advanced wings, a couple Y-TIEs, and a bizarre thing that I have no idea what it is (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/xwing/uglies3.jpg)...TIE Predator pic> Very, very nice. :D Any chance of doing one of the Seraphim if I provide a very rough sketch? ^_^

Zath> Welcome back! ^_^ BTW, have you seen Kitty lately? Because I think she's been travelling (http://www.sluggy.com/d/000629.html)... ;P

Chicken Run> Looks like an amusing enough diversion, although I suspect I'll much prefer Titan AE...

Janine> <<I need help. How do I convert music tracks from a CD into an MP3 file?>> Go to www.musicmatch.com and get MusicMatch Jukebox. :)

Wilek Nereus
Saturday, July 1, 2000 11:20:05 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

HEYLA!

I am off this morning to Anime Expo. If anyone else is going try to track me down (I will be the one snagging up the Zelgadis cels left and right).

See ya!

CrzyDemona
Saturday, July 1, 2000 10:53:14 AM
IP: 209.150.94.67

Green Baron> Thank you for the hugs, they were needed this week.

Sevarius Jr.> Thank you for the prayers. How is your father? Have they been able to start treatments yet?

Starsinger> <You know people, I'm tired...> You know, I had a post very similar to that written up early this week after I read Joxter's and Gasper's hurt posts because I too remember. However, I saw that Joxter had been apologized to, and that others had expressed feelings of welcome to Gasper, and after that, I did not have the guts to post it. I too don't like seeing hatred and exclusion here in this room; it reminds me of highschool.

*Cyborg leaves with childhood ghosts haunting her*

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Saturday, July 1, 2000 10:36:26 AM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Hi!

I'm running around this weekend. Working on having a good time. I'll catch up with the CR either tonight or tomorrow. See you then! ^_^

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Saturday, July 1, 2000 09:46:48 AM
IP: nas-14-132.nyc.navipath.net

Warpmind: <Aw, you had to pick out the best quotes, did you? I was trying to lure people into seeing the movie, and become pleasantly surprised by those scenes, too.>
Sorry! Didn't know. :( Next time I'll try to increase my resistance. $ RP Note- Mephisto's demonic forces on the Avatar are dead (except for three who were captured) and now he's practically a Raven prisoner, detained by a deal he made with us in exchange for our beating Nine. Check the recent RPs for more, hope your continuity mistake is fixed next post. Just a friendly error pointing-out. $

Theresa: I nod in complete agreement with those words of yours, thanks for posting them. Hope others listen and take heed.

Doug
Saturday, July 1, 2000 09:43:48 AM
IP: pool-209-138-62-71.dlls.grid.net

You know people, I'm tired. I'm tired of Jackel's hatred towards Aris. It was never deserved. I was upset when, between Jackel and Doug, they drove him from posting to this room. NOT ONE PERSON TOLD ARIS TO STAY. Myself included. It was all poor Jackel. Poor upset Doug. Doug has said he was sorry and has moved on. Jackel is nursing his hatred like a lifeline.

Now it starts again. I watched Pistoff tear into other writers and other posters. When all it appeared to me to be was jelousy. Why he'd be jelous of the other writer's I don't know. I've watched his writing mature and grow focused. Like others in this room he felt he was forced out.

I come here to relax. I can't do that with outright hatred against a member of the clan. And yes both Aris and Jackel are Clan. Pistoff for all he annoyes me is Clan. I miss his acid comments and definitley different viewpoint on issues. He makes you think and challenges you look at your beliefs. He also needs to learn diplomacy and to realize when to back down and that getting the last word in does not mean you win.

It will probably sometime before I post again. I find it not worth the effort to even read such negative comments much less comment on them. Whether I comment or not on things in the room you are all in my thoughts.

Hopefully Peace.

Auntie Starsinger

Starsinger
Saturday, July 1, 2000 07:24:54 AM
IP: proxy-662.public.rwc.webtv.net

*Warpmind enters.*

Doug: Aw, you had to pick out the best quotes, did you? I was trying to lure people into seeing the movie, and become pleasantly surprised by those scenes, too. :|

Shadowrider: Kids listening? Well, doesn't that suggest it to be wise to preach caution? As for that Disney guy... he doesn't scare me. *Fondles a small, pyramid-shaped lapel pin.* Oh, and unless there's an unforeseen delay, the TIE Predator should be on your doorstep around three PM...

Janine: You're getting a Charizard? Hmmm... perhaps this would be a good idea to brag about my plushie Pikachu. ]:)

Dr. Isaac Payne: Okay, that song hurt. It was directly Payne-ful. (And I know puns will be the death of me yet...)

Green Baron: Working on the MiST - got several lines ready, will e-mail you as soon as I get it typed. (I could have become a doctor - my handwriting suggests so.)

Gside: How our geeks survived? Well, basically, in two ways: 1) They Didn't Know What They Were Missing, or 2) The same way I got Gargoyles. Had a chap abroad copy the show for me. :) Thank you again, Matt Dymond! :) Oh, and thanks for the pep talk. I could bring spoilers for the next ep, but, heh, I haven't even started writing it yet, partly because I have misplaced my bible in the moving efforts I'm going through... :|

Okay, I see several comments about Jay and Silent Bob. Who the <Censored> are they? The only thing I have to associate their names with are Jae and Violent Bahb from the Wulf the Freelance stories... those of you who know, know, and those of you who don't, well, the Wulf stories are fun, and I'll just shut my trap right now. ;)

**RP**
Warpmind finds himself seated in a soft leather chair, facing two obscured shapes.
"Realmsfarer, Avatar of Temperance, your absence from the fray has been noted."
"We have become aware of a serious threat to both the Upper and Nether Realms, and the threat must be faced in the Realm of the Living."
Warpmind swallows.
"Uh, I couldn't act, because I was absent..."
"We know, we do not blame you. However, it is time to team the Three together: the Seeker of Truth, the Realmsfarer and the Quencher of Life must cooperate against this great threat to us all. Thus, you must release the Quencher from her soul-prison, and allow her to return to her body."
"Why? Never mind, I'll follow orders. Though, I doubt the Seeker will be too thrilled..."
Warpmind suddenly faces the chamber where the Quencher's soul is trapped, and her soul is once more transferred into a transport crystal. Then, Warpmind finds himself aboard the Avatar of Ganon, in his quarters there. Clutching the soulstone, he looks at it grimly.
"Well, you no-good b!tch, time to get you back into shape, eh? Now, where was that cell again...?"
Opening the door, Warpmind listens for the sound of footsteps, and scurries off down the corridors, seeking the cell that holds the Quencher's body.

MEANWHILE, IN THE CONTROL ROOM
"Master! Master! Something has arrived, with an energy reading of both Divine and Infernal energy."
Mephisto turned his head toward the imp who spoke.
"And why should this worry me?"
"Um... because the energy readings are high enough to suggest that both Lord Lucifer and G- G- that other guy are cooperating on the transfer."
For a moment, Mephisto's face distorts with fear, then he shrugs it off.
"It matters not. Send out a patrol; this trespasser should be easily dealt with."
**RP END**

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, July 1, 2000 06:17:10 AM
IP: mp-217-237-17.daxnet.no

Christine- Your guess is as gud as mine. And I have no power over any woman and her body- especially one that doesn't mind raping my soul. I'm not blaming anything on the baby, and I really don't mean to make it sound that way if I am..., it's just that I have become so much more mature since the births of my first 2, that I already know life isn't going to be, what I want it to be for *this* child. And it makes me sad that there's nothing I can do to stop it. Or maybe I'm just upset that I see myself as a bad parent, f*** it, I dunno..., I'll just deal with whatever happens.

And I don't wanna give the wrong impression, I love this baby, I do. I'm just sad for it. And thank you all for listening to my rants.

On to other matters....

OHHH HELLL NOOO!!! :o) hahahaaaaa
I *know* that just didn't happen! Did I just see that?! Huh?! Let me go back and read again... ::Sighs:: Sweet Jesus. ::shakes head::

First thing's first- Toku, ur right! I had NO idea it came out *that* bad!! Sorry!!! That's one I really didn't mean!!! I just have sum "women" issues, that's totally my bad!

SJ- Hehehehe, Let's not encourage me.

Now- Todd the a$$ kisser..., I see ur readin, can't say hey?!

Mr. Vapor! Yeah, you, mister reads alot, doesn't post no more...., I was bullsh*tin when I said, are by gones by gones? I don't care, I don't. You f**k up with me, you've f**ked up for all time. How dare you even think you have the right to say ANYTHING to me. I don't care if you're wishing good on me, I don't care if you're wishing death on me, I don't want the thought of me in your head! So crawl ur a$$ back in hiding and act like you didn't see this, cause you have nothing to say I wanna hear. I am not playing, I'm 113 times more stressed than I was before- Wanna see me blow up?!

Anywayz!!!

Green Baron- Thanks and, Ok!

JackaL
Saturday, July 1, 2000 02:56:13 AM
IP: ac8cf0cc.ipt.aol.com

*Janine walks in a sleepily*

Sorry I'm posting again but I won't get a chance tomorrow to post. I'll be at a pool party and the RHPS afterward.:)

Lawrence> I got your mail. Sorry I didn't have time to reply. Glad to see you posting:)

Winterwolf> I hope you have fun tomorrow/today. I know I will *J.R. smiles a big evil, cheezy, brace-face-grin* =) I will be on ~hopefully~ sometime Sunday.

Brooklyn> See you when you get back. I hope you have fun this Fourth of July :)

Anyone and Everyone> I need help. How do I convert music tracks from a CD into an MP3 file? I'm using WinAmp. If you could help it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance:)

Good Night Room.
*Janine turns the light out and leaves*

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 02:14:41 AM
IP: phx-206.treknet.net

Hoo yah. As of this afternoon, I am now in posession of the collector's edition of Diablo II. Now if only my laptop was above the system requirements... (It just barely meets the single player reqs, so can you say choppy?) Any requests from the soundtrack?

Warpmind> <<[Trek] never ran in Norway; all we got so far is TNG...>>: How did your geeks ever survive?
Read your latest fic. Very nice, with some rather interesting developments.

Cyborg> Continued well wishes for a full recovery by your father.

Thanks to Revel and Spike for identifying and quoting which part of Blood Moon I was referring to (I did say chibi-saru-kun before, right?).

Revel> <<Long live Jay and Silent Bob!>>: There will always be the Secret Stash. Can't believe I still haven't visited since the Broad Street move.

Welcome back Hyperion.

CSH> <<t would have been a nice bit of continuity but I think the season ender of Time Dancer works just as well without it>>: Of course, but as a pedant, continuity is nigh all-important to me, but I shall survive.

Daniel Johnson> Well wishes.

Caliope> <<Well thats a mean thing to sing! And this guy actualy had fans you say?>>: He did have a good couple of death/bomb threats. Anyway, I'm a fan. And you do have to remember, just about everything he did was tongue in cheek.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 1, 2000 02:11:29 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Greetings all... brother, are you ready for this?

I stated early on this year that I wanted to go to the Gathering in Orlando, but that finances wouldn't allow me to get the ticket to fly down.

Well, seems that my family in Tampa - my mother, my sister and her husband, and my grandparents - all got together just recently and bought me a round trip ticket to Tampa, so I could be there to see my soon-to-be-born niece/nephew in August!

But, the down side... and BROTHER! what a down side!

Seems the family want's me to come down on the 8TH of august, since that is my Sister's wedding annaversary... which is two days AFTER the close of the Gathering. There's nothing I can do about it, since the tickets have already been bought and they're non-refundable.

So, why am I mentioning this? I recall a few people headed for the con are making plans to stick around in Florida after the con is over. Thus, I'm extending this invitation to anyone that wishes to accept:

I'll be in Florida from the 8th on until the 14th. If you're staying longer after the con to enjoy what Florida has to offer, Come over to Tampa if you can (with letting me know in advance) and join me for a sort of After-Gathering Gathering. I know of several great restaraunts in the Greater Bay area, plus, if anyone is planing to possibly take in Busch Gardens, or one of the other sites here in Florida, I'll be happy to come out to meet and greet you.

Well, that's all from me. Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Saturday, July 1, 2000 01:51:03 AM
IP: m79.ieway.com

*Hyperion wanders in, flickering dimly and lo0kking tired*
Accursed long nights....
Just a quick post to Cyborg...thanks for the comments, they were much appreciated, espically this week.
Gotta fly...too tired to type...
*Hyperion sinks to the floor and fades out*

*********
I absolutly refuse to beleve it! I won't believe it! Prove it to me and I won't believe it!
-RC Church to Copernicus

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 01:09:01 AM
IP: ehdup-v-13.rmt.net.pitt.edu

** Niamhgold enters, quickly... **

You know what stinks? Tenchi Muyo is on the Cartoon Network, which our cable company is _supposed_ to supply but doesn't. Apparently, it's for the same reason they don't supply our town with MSNBC or Comedy, while other surrounding areas _do_ get it. I guess I'll have to hunt down a friend who gets the network (because I'm just too cheap to buy the tapes ;))

Poof! Dangit, my dog's messing with my mind again! It steals stuff off the table when I'm working on painting, so that, when I can't find items, I feel like I'm losing my mind! The poor little guy is always grasping for attention! ** Though peeved, she still grabs her dog into a bear hug ** Maybe that'll make him feel better now :D

GB: < It's good to be the Baron! > * LOL *! Have fun, you four! Thanks for your input on the mother/abandonment issue--I totally agree with you, and am coming to terms with the fact that I'll probably never know how the case gets resolved :(

Planet of the Apes: With Burton at the Helm, I'll give it a go! (Heck, I used to hate Disney's version of "Sleepy Hollow" before the film master himself touched it up >:})

jacKal: You have my heartfelt feelings on the matter, and can only hope that things will get better! (they always do, eventually :))

Winterwolf: Hmmm...maybe I'll just have to pull out my old Egyptian scarab collection and see how she reacts? ** Evil laugh ** I was debating upon humoring her and just making up the name "scarabiphobia." ;) Oh, check your e-mail, too! There should be a reply from me in there :)

Mary Flanders: Hope ya get over the jetlag! I'm still recovering from when I switched from night shift to day shift (sort of like Elisa Maza, but I prefer a *little* more sleep ;)

Kyryn: Condolences, my friend.

Gside: TRIBBLE! (:P

That'll be all for now, gang!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:37:49 AM
IP: lac-flex135.ncia.net

A few things tonight.

Cyborg: I'm sorry that I didn't mention this before, but I'm glad that your father's surgery went well. For what its worth, I am praying that he recovers completely and that he will return to full health--and I do mean FULL health--as soon as possible. I'm pleased that he's doing well right now, but I'll be even more happy when he's totally healed. :)

Jackal: That's amazing--Aris stopped posting in here long ago, but now just returned to inform us (well...you, mainly) that he stopped posting in here long ago. Behold, the power of Jackal! ;)
Seriously, bro, if you feel the need to talk to someone, drop me a line. I'm there for you.

Doug: I'd be up for a "Long Walk" type of athletic competition. But, hmm....maybe they should eliminate that pesky stop-and-get-shot rule. And they'd have to take all the proper steps to make sure that the contestants didn't suffer exhaustion or dehydration. I remember reading that story long ago. It was quite good, and pretty chilling actually. Especially that one kid who goes bonkers and rips out his own throat. That was a little freaky for me.
BTW, it looks like I've found a way to conquer my writer's block--get hit by a van. Poor Stephen King gets broadsided by a van, and NOT in a good way, and suddenly he starts cranking out the books like crazy. Wish I had his work ethic.

Green Baron: Yep, I heard about the embargo. I'm against lifting it. Needless to say, I too will not be buying products made in Cuba, and if I find a particular department store or chain of stores who are selling Cuban-made products, I'll most likely not frequent them unless I absolutely have to as a necessity. I'm not spending my American dollars so that they can go into Fidel's pocket.
And that's definitely where I believe they'll wind up. No matter how much the lifting supporters argue, lifting the embargo isn't going to help Cuban citizens as much as it will Fidel. This is not like China. I wasn't pleased with offering China permanent trade status, on account of their ridiculous human rights violations, but I do know that China (and by that I mean the Chinese people) is becoming far more democratic. The Communists still hold all the real power, true, but I feel that the people are more open to Democracy, and they've been trying to adopt more democratic concepts. So, even though it bothers me, I'm not stamping my feet in anger that we've given China trade status because I do ultimately feel that some good can possibly come to the Chinese people as they move slowly towards democracy (maybe that's just optimism on my part). But I don't feel that way with Cuba. I just think Castro's got to firm a stranglehold on things for the Cuban people to truly benefit.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:27:56 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Green Baron>You aced American Government? Lucky you. :P I'll keep you in mind for when I need help. ^_^ thanks for the offer.
Mary Flanders
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:08:23 AM
IP: ramp-2-2.ucdavis.edu

*enters*
Ugh. Icky poo day today. These past four days, I've been suffering from jetlag. Nope, I haven't been traveling. The week after school got out and before summer school began, I've been staying up late til midnight and sleeping in till noon. I was roughly on Japan time. X.x Then I started summer school this past monday, and I have to get up at 6:30am to get ready. Then have two 2 hour classes. Today, my brain couldn't take it anymore. I took a test, and couldn't process anything. I had practically turned into a zombie. Then we started to do an activity and I STILL couldn't think. Finally, I told the teacher what was wrong and asked if I could go home. He said sure (Goddess bless him!!!) and got to go home early. ^_^ I feel all around icky. Then my doctor told me to stay awake until bedtime. O.o I want to sleep!!! >:P
*goes and collapses on abed* nighty night!
*GONE*

Mary Flanders
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:06:45 AM
IP: ramp-2-2.ucdavis.edu

JackaL: Re: "pregnant women"

Um ... JackaL ... generally insulting everyone's mother at once is a BAD IDEA (tm). I know your just feeling REALLY down and didn't mean it in a malicious way towards people in the room, but it could easily be taken the wrong way. That could cause a flame war or something

Beyond that, I hope you feel better, man. Life's tough, real tough sometimes. I hope you know that we're here to support and help you. Just please, try not to insult all the mom's in the world or something on a regular basis. It can cause problems for the stability of the room, you know?

Toku Kaioto - Deputy CR Admin. - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Saturday, July 1, 2000 12:00:52 AM
IP: 1cust239.tnt3.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Hi, Boy I have'nt been in here awhile I think 4 months maybe more I don't know.
Anyway I wouold like to say that this season of Timedancer was pretty cool! Can't wait until the new season of Pendragon begins!
Green Baron- Hope to catch you online soon
Janine- Hey did you get my e-mail I sent you a few days ago?
Well I guess that is it
bye

Lawrence - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Ohio
Friday, June 30, 2000 11:16:48 PM
IP: chil-ras2-2-cs-24.dial.bright.net

RP WARNING!!!
**Havan, Cuba
Greg Craig and Fidel Castro sit around a large oval table. Also at the table are Rev. Joan Campbell Brown, Janet Reno, Doris Mesiner, Eric Holder, Rev. Jesse Jackson, and a mysterious figure covered in shadows.

Castro speaks first, "Comrades, we must celebrate tonight. First, littel Elian is back and he is at our re-education camp getting readjusted to Cuban life."

"But, brother Castro," Jesse Jackson interrupts," what about his life afterwards. He must be treated well,a nd I want soemthing better than the Polemkin Village effect for the cameras."

"Please, call me comrade, Jesse. I'm not into that preaching stuff, and neither should you, since you're less of a preacher than those televengalists. At least they make their money preaching to an actual congregation, and not taking on causes to raise money. But don't worry, Comrade Jesse. He will become my apprentice and succeed me as I grow older. Then he shall be the apprentice to my RedSith Leader. May I present to you, the man at the end of the Table, my own master and mentor for decades, Che Guerva."

The elderly man steps out of the shadows and moves to the end of the table where the others. He is older and walks with a cane and is covered in a red robe.

"Comrades, I am pleased by the news. My apprentice Darth Comrade Fidel is growing old and he is not a RedSith Master, so he cannot have the power of the energies that keep me going. Little Elian will soon rule Cuba. Now, I present our enxt guest, Juan Miguel Gonzalez."

Everyone cheers as Juan Miguel enters the room. Commisar Che throws him a bag of money to Juan Miguel. It is millions of...Cuban pesos. As he reveals this prize,e evryone laughs, and then Che throws him another bag full of American money.

"Don't worry, Comrade, I owuld not pay you in the worthless currency we give to the Proles and the Outer Party. You have know been initiated into the Inner Party of the Cuban Communist Party for giving us your son."

"I thought he was my son. I have a right to him...."

Fidel grasps his fist in a choke hold as Juan Miguel chokes. "Fool, you dare oppose the will of Commisar Guerva or myself, Papa Fidel. I own the boy," he elts go of Juan Miguel, "he shall instead be returend to the Outer Party and reeducated. Comrade Craig, take him away."**
END RP!!!

Well, that was long, but I've been gone a while. Hello all!!

Christine> Any further news from Tim about the e-mail?

Sahdowrider> Well, I guess you're gald not to be leaving too soon. I however count down the days till I'm away from my mother :)

Gasper> Please stay. These scuffles occur, plus you can IM Robby. $Personally, I don't know the power leevls fo rmy characters.$

Elian Gonzalez> I'm not happy that the poor kid is returning to his Polemkin Village and being reeducated teh Cuban way, but there's not much more to do about it, except get revenge through RP :)

SJ> I think you'll like how my post begins :) BTW, I hear the Embargo is being lifted. I will not buy anything amde in Cuba, nor will I shop at any store taht sells imporetd goods from Cuba if I can help it (Grocery stores, PXs, and Commisaries are exempt form my personal boycott, but small places aren't). Will you join me, brother in capitalism and freedom?

Jackal> You're secret is safe with me. What's your e-mail address, now? Please e-mail me with it. I want to hear more and offer my advice.

Announcement> Spacebaie and I have started flirting, everyone :) ::grabs Spacebabie and puts her on hsi lap, while he grabs Xena Trek and Bronx into an embrace around each arm and kisses them all passionately:: It's good to be the Baron!!

Niamhgold> I think the sitaution sucks, but sadly there is not much we can do, beyond being aware of situations and not be afraid to get involed if we face another problem.

Zath> ::tacklehugs:: WB. Are you still going to G2K?

Doug> Let's request the returns of others. $I hope you like the new villains$

TRC> Mna, it's a reunion. WB to you too.

Fire Storm> Rambo would eb godo againts them, though now they can be minions of the RedSith (my new RP creation) :)

New Welcoems to Knoxville and Tony.

Kyryn> ::hugs:: and on a lighter note, I hoep you enjoy Patriot. A theatre in streetcar disatnce will be playing it and I will see the matinee. I hear liberals hate this movie, so I hope it wins a buttlaod of Oscars just to spite Hollywood, and if Liberals hate, I bet it will be a greta movie :)

Wilek> My art skills are crap, but I have greta business skills :)

Grinz> Welcome, ::hugs:: How is Jaden? I imagien his nine weeks of Basic are up by now. I hope you've heard something. I hope he can post soon. It shoudln't be hard, unless he's stationed out in the boonies of the Third World.

Bengali> ::Hugs:: WB!! I hope youc an e-mail me soon.

Patrick> <<Hmm, maybe it's just me, but it seems like the RP (and the ensuing bad feelings) are beginning to be taken WAY too seriously. People should be having fun, not being browbeaten and made to feel unwelcome.>>
Well, I knew you'd make a comment about an RP related comment :p

As for the Elain/Castro thing, I got yoru side abck in the RP :p

Mary Flanders> American Government? Iloved that course in HS. Aced it :) E-mail me if you need any help.

SJ> <<America gets its name from low-ranking sailor Amerigo Vespucci, who managed to scam his name onto maps. His only real claim to fame during his time was being the first popular pornographer of the New World. His letters about his travels described in lewd detail the sex lives of Native Americans and become a natural bestseller back in Europe.>>
I recall we were called the Great Satan for our pronography among other things. It's amazing how accurate the Ayatollah Cromwell Kohmeini was :)

Cyborg> ::more hugs:: You're amror won't hurt me. I have a Mary Medallion +4 around my neck :)

Ordell> I'll view that cut definitely. I'm right now at Abandoned.

Aris> Now, now. Don't tease the jackal :)

Isaac Payne> I wonder who you really are? Taleweaver, perhaps :) I'll look it up.

I'd post more, but my RP was long :)

Green Baron - [greenbaron]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, June 30, 2000 10:55:49 PM
IP: proxy1-external.elmwd1.la.home.com

Hey hey :)

Emambu> Why did I pick my name? Well, Caliope isnt my real name, its Raquel, Caliope is the greek muse of heroic poetry but thats the lest definition that fits me, cuz I'm no poet:P It also means beautifull voice in greek, and I'm always singing so at least theres that. All in all, I dont even remember why I picked it, it was so long ago. I proabably did so cuz it sounded neet :P

Cyborg> lol see? alot of my friends are as short as you, it must be cultural or something. I dont mind being short tho, everyone know poison comes in small bottles ;)

Sevarious Jr.> Ah, OK! Thanx for the info! :)

Winterwolf> *blinx*....Hello! *shakes his hand* :P

Gside> Well thats a mean thing to sing! And this guy actualy had fans you say? :P

Oy! Gotta go! Bye!!! *HUGZ for all*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 10:48:21 PM
IP: 196-28-48-101.prtc.net

(Isaac Payne walks onto a stage.)
The Timedancer has finally gotten home, defeated one of his enemies, namely
me, grr... His children have been born, and all our heroes can take a well
earned break. Sooo... I guess that leaves ME in charge!

Hey, wait, where are you going?

Wait, wait, there's more, a special offer! For those readers out there that
missed Timedancer season 3 and have no idea what is going on, we proudly
present, for your appreciation, this week only, the marvelous, the
magnificent, TGS strolling players!

(Screen fades to black, and I suggest you load up this song right about
now...)
http://userpages.itis.com/kmg/midi_page/broadway/majorgen.mid

(Screen lights up, and we see chibi versions of Brooklyn, the wierd sisters,
and in fact, most of the Timedancer cast...)


'Wierd Sister Chorus'
The one known as the Timedancer, jumped all around from date to date.
He was brought only misery, until he found himself a mate.
Then came the end of season two, and our hero felt like a sap
The Phoenix Gate filled him with hate, and all that he could say was...
'Brooklyn'-
Nuts.

"Wierd Sister number 1"-
With Brooklyn going 'round in time once again with no friend at all
At first he held in his sorrow and responded to duty's call
"Wierd Sister number 2"-
After a single dance or three, helping others was not enough
His feelings for his loving mate and meeting old friends made things rough

"Wierd Sister 3 in full fancy costume stealing show'-
His feelings for his loving mate and meeting old friends made things rough
His feelings for his loving mate and meeting old friends made things rough
His feelings for his loving mate and meeting old friends made things
rou-ou-ou-gh! (Other wierd sister glare at her)

'Melchior'
I found my old buddy Brooklyn alone and trapped inside some ice
I helped him out and he told me something that wasn't very nice
The gargoyle lied to me and said lovely Sata lived not now
Yet he would continue looking, to find her was his only vow!

'Li"
The gargoyle lied to him and said lovely Sata lived not now
Yet he would continue looking, to find her was his only vow!

"Brooklyn"
I upset my friend Melchior, but I did it to spare him pain
"Isaac Payne"
Then what happened next Timedancer, why you met up with me again!
From dance to dance to dance we went, and I was not your biggest fan!
The fun that you once knew was gone, for I was now your sidekick man!

"Wierd Sister Chorus"
From dance to dance to dance they went, and he was not your biggest fan!
The fun that you once knew was gone, for Payne was now your sidekick man!

'Brooklyn' (clears throat)
I only brought the stupid doc 'cause he was a snake in the grass
He claimed he would mess with time's flow, so I was forced to watch his
'Payne'
HEY!
We ended up in frozen waste, Timedancer met his old girlfriend
While I got cool powers that would ensure my life would never end!

'Brooklyn' (Takes deep breath)-
After a time we ended up in the death trap known as Pompeii
I found myself a new partner , Payne was left for another day!
'Celer'-
(takes deep breath)
I travelled with the gargoyle, I knew not what danger waited
I ended up with some nice guys, I guess the outcome was fated

'Wierd Sister Chorus' -
He ended up with some nice guys, I guess the outcome was fated
He ended up with some nice guys, I guess the outcome was fated
He ended up with some nice guys, I guess the outcome was kind of fated!

'Brooklyn'-
Ruby Eyed beasts screwed with my head, while I fought for my life
I thought I'd wind up dead but stayed alive by thinking of my wife
I dreamed of her each lonely night, even in the wet nasty rain
If I had not then gotten home ,I likely would have gone insane!

'Wierd Sister chorus'-
You dreamed of her each lonely night, even in the wet nasty rain
If you had not then gotten home, you likely would have gone insane!

'Brooklyn' (clears throat)
I met dear Sata once again and found our eggs were soon to hatch
Then Payne the pest showed up again and gave me quite a fighting match
My good old bro Lex shot him down and the gate was kind of repaired
Season four will kick some tail, yes! and you had better be prepared!

"Wierd Sister chorus"
His good old bro Lex shot him down and the gate was kind of repaired
Season four will kick some tail, yes! and you had better be prepared!
Season four will kick some tail, yes! and you had better be prepared!
Season four will kick some tail, yes!
AND YOU HAD BETTER BE PREPARED!

Dr. Isaac Payne
Friday, June 30, 2000 10:46:57 PM
IP: 216.28.101.43

Hey everybody. I have a request. If anybody has "Sedated" by The Ramones on MP3, please let me know. I'd be grateful, and have a fairly large trade list...

Thanks...

Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Friday, June 30, 2000 09:10:41 PM
IP: 24.116.35.17

*Since she thinks she has a little time before bed, Cyborg decides to post a reply*

Hyperion> You may not remember me, but I sure remember you! You started posting while I was in lurk- mode, but I saw and liked your posts. <Always, always, yield to incoming fire. No exceptions.> Too true. Also: When making toast, remember to plug in the toaster.

Time flies. *Cyborg faints from exhaustion*
Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, June 30, 2000 08:41:30 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

ARIS - I'm sorry to hear that you're no longer posting here in the TGS Comment Room. At least you still come by the Station 8 Comment Room, which is something I'm glad about. My best wishes to you.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, June 30, 2000 07:08:48 PM
IP: 216.87.46.253.dialup-stl.primary.net

<Slips in for a moment>

Kyryn:> I've been unforgettable. I forgot to make to you and your husband my condolences for his loss. I make them now, although I know it's late. I'm very sorry, it slipped out of my mind.
About the model battleships, no problem. I'll make a tour of the model-making shops in my zone right tomorrow, if I have time. I'm quite sure a model of the Littorio has been produced, I seem to recall I've seen it. I'll make you know as soon as possible.

Good night to everyone!

<Slips out>

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:55:01 PM
IP: h213-18-28.mi2.albacom.net

I really enjoyed "Return to Paradise" because Brooklyn and Sata are finally reunited. I must admit that when I first read about Payne's attack on the rookery in "Turncoat" that I suspected that Alex was the twins' godfather. Imagine my surprise when I learned that it was not Alex, but Lex! I should have guessed it when Brooklyn told Lex what happened to the twins in "Turncoat," but I'm glad with the way things turned out.
Harmony - [allegretto3@cheerful.com]
Arlington, TX
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:53:11 PM
IP: 1cust239.tnt7.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net

I wish I had read the latest posts before I posted mine. I might not have said anything. :( Now I'm sick AND depressed. Sigh.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:37:17 PM
IP: ppp-33.rb5.exit109.com

Well, the good news is that I have today off. The bad news is that I have a cold and have spent most of the day in bed. :P
----
Doug:
Thanks, but I didn't go anywhere, I've just been too busy to do anything but lurk recently. I find that I can't just write a quick post; if I do, I usually don't say what I want or the way I want. I need to spend time thinking about what to say first. I tend to be a perfectionist when I write and that makes it hard to finish things. Just ask my English teachers. :)
----
DPH:
Does it make sense for MS to hold some projects back? Probably, but I doubt that Gates really cares about that. Since MS now has reprieve, they're going to try to destroy as much of their competition as possible before the final judgement is in. That way it won't really matter if they get broken up or not. The fact that this is exactly the sort of behavior that got MS in trouble for in the first place is yet more proof of the incredible arrogance of MS's leadership. The whole Microsoft.net thing is another, but if I get started on that...

Oh, and I noticed an old post by you about spam and this room: I always post my email address here, and I have never received any spam because of it.
----
Kyryn:
It's a bit late, but my sympathies to you and yours.
----
Spike:
I doubt that you'll have any trouble selling any of YOUR artwork. :)
----
A comment about RP:
I don't follow any of the RP, but I don't object to it either. It's easy enough to skip over, and people have fun with it, so why not. What does bother me is when problems among RP participants starts spilling over into the general discussion. RP is supposed to be secondary to the main purpose of this room. Perhaps such difficulties should be handled through email? Gasper, you had a disagreement with one person over a RP; that does NOT make you unwanted here. And Robby: your role as CR Administrator puts you in a unique position of authority here, and that might make some people feel uncomfortable with disagreeing with you. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't participate in RP; just keep in mind your unique position, since there is the potential for conflicts of interest. Or, at least, PERCEIVED conflicts of interest. Sorry about that. I hope I didn't sound too high and mighty. I wasn't going to say anything at first, but it kept bugging me. We now return you to your regularly scheduled comment room. :)
----
****** TGS SPOILERS ******
Ok, "Return to Paradise." I was going to wait until part 2 to comment, so here we are. It was basically a good story. I liked the way that this and "Crossroads" bracketed the season; we began and ended in the same place. It was good to see Brooklyn and Sata reunited. I continue to like how continuity is maintained, not only within Timedancer, but also with the other series. The Angela/Gwen scene did seem a little out of place since there was no real resolution or connection with the rest of the story, but it did give some interesting clues: "Right. You did it for her. You might of [sic] won her, but you lost me." Might that be a reference to Demona? The development on Harthoth was very interesting as well. What is "coming to a head"? The return of Apep? Also, how did Lex become what he is? These are all good questions to be explored next season.

There were some problems. The story had a somewhat disjointed feel to it. I have to agree that there were too many writers involved. There was also an unusually high number of grammatical errors compared to previous stories. The previously mentioned "might of" and "would of" (instead of "might have" and "would have") were particularly annoying. There were also some strange punctuation errors and uncapitalized sentences. Now, I feel really bad about finding fault here, but this story just wasn't up to TGS's usual standard of quality. It felt rushed: as if it needed another proofreading pass. In any case, it was a good, if slightly flawed, ending to the season

I have one more nit to pick about this season of Timedancer in general. The "Previously on..." parts are getting ridiculously long. For example, the entire first quarter of "Once I Built a Tower" was made up of entire passages quoted from previous stories. Couldn't that have been condensed to a few relevant lines followed by links to the appropriate stories. In fact, is it really necessary at all? The reason they did that with the original show was so that people coming into the middle of the series would have some idea of what happened before. Is that really a problem with TGS? Unlike a TV show, it's very easy for someone to go back and read previous stories. Also, sometimes the "Previously on..." bits can give unnecessary spoilers for the story. Maybe you should take a poll and see whether people actually use it.

I'm sorry if my criticism was too harsh. Maybe it's just because I'm sick. :P I just don't want the TGS staff to think that their work isn't appreciated. It is! If not, I wouldn't say anything at all. Please keep up the good work.
****** END SPOILERS ******

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:19:50 PM
IP: ppp-33.rb5.exit109.com

Jackal> Welcome back - and thanks; it's always fun to be called an "it", let alone a "bitch". Thanks again. "Gesundheit" for your sneeze, btw.

Non-sarcastically now, good luck with your problems. I do hope everything turns out as well as possible.

Doug> As I've said before to others, you were not the cause - just the final... motivation. An accumulative effect, if you will.

That I almost never post - [doesn't mean that I don't read :-) ]
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:12:37 PM
IP: athe530-q224.otenet.gr

***Kyryn steps in***

Hey, all.

Thanks for the condolences on Okami's grandmother. It does mean a lot to him that you all care enough to say something.

Shadowrider> Since you are in Italy, by any chance would you know if there are models of the Italian battleships Roma or Littorio made? My husband, Okami, wants to know. He is a big fan of battleships and likes the Italian ones. If you find out any information we would appreciate it.

Well, we went and saw "Chicken Run" the other night. It's a lot of fun, but then Okami and I are both Wallace and Gromit fans and fans of old WWII escape movies. That made the movie even more enjoyable as we got a lot of the in-jokes.

Hopefully, we'll get to go see "Patriot" this weekend.

Hyperion> We're still working on writing Season 3 of Gargoyles. Next up will be Pendragon which will premiere in about a month.


Later All!

***Kyryn steps out****


Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, June 30, 2000 05:20:09 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

How could James Cameron NOT have anything to do with T:3. I mean he only WROTE/DIRECTED/etc... the first two! Thats it it'll suck!

I thought tribbles made an appearence in ST:NG? *shrug*

I haven't read Timedancer in a while. Looks as though I have some catching up to do.

WOO HOO! My little brother might be getting me a Charizard! Yes I know I'm pathetic. But what can I say, I like collecting Pokemon cards.

Well thats it for now I'll be online for a little while longer.

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 04:58:58 PM
IP: phx-203.treknet.net

Okay, the moment you've all been waiting for (or at least some of you... maybe just one or two). Return to Paradise: The Director's Cut AND The Making of Return to Paradise FAQ has been posted at my website, http://members.xoom.com/ordell9425. Click my name to get there. Enjoy.
Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Friday, June 30, 2000 04:50:08 PM
IP: 24.116.35.98

re: Missing scene>>

Ah, you guys mean this bit from "Bloodmoon" --

Sata ignored her, fighting to squash the irritation she felt at the fay's light-hearted banter. She could hear old Omi-san's voice in her head: ~A warrior never becomes irritated in battle. To do so is to give your opponent an edge.~ But Omi-san had never fought a god. From the days of her very youth, Sata had been warned that the day could come when she would be faced with an opponent she could not hope to defeat and she had believed that if she ever encountered such an adversary, she would face her death with honor, fighting to the bitter end.

However, as blow after blow drove her back, a smaller, childish voice replaced Omi-san's in Sata's mind and for a bright moment that stopped time, Sata once again saw the moment the twins' eggs cracked. Felt the claws of the small green hatchling that would not wait for her to pick him up but instead climbed up her arm and wrapped his tail around her wrist like a little monkey, her ~chibi-saru-kun.~. Looked into the eyes of her firstborn and knew she would never let anyone harm him. The vibration of spear striking sword brought Sata back to the battle.

"Daydreaming?" Anath laughed deeply. "You disappoint me. Have you no pride?"

A growl started low in Sata's chest and rose to a high-pitched, defiant eagle's shriek as she charged back into the Unseelie war goddess with a renewed strength. Her crimson eyes glowed brighter than the ruddy moon above. Sparks flew from their weapons as they clashed.

<<<End ficbit>>>

If it had been included, it would have been a nice bit of continuity but I think the season ender of Time Dancer works just as well without it. I thought that was a clever use of the armbands, although I had a slightly different origin for them. (Yet another independent TGS fic...) Fortunately, I think I can incorporate the changes quite nicely! Good job, TGS crew!

Spike
Friday, June 30, 2000 04:08:58 PM
IP: ppp21-34.ght.iadfw.net

Hi Zath! Hope you can get back here on a more regular basis soon.

Doug> Don't forget the great "I'm glad I didn't ask him to park the car." (After Kano had just dumped all Johnny's luggage off the dock)

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, June 30, 2000 03:18:38 PM
IP: ppp-240.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

This is my first Friday off in a week. That is a good thing of course.
I do have one little complaint I'd like to express though about my job. I don't know what is the big deal with my boss and why he hates long hair. It's really quite annoying to have to tuck it all under a hat. It makes it feel like I have a snow cap on in the middle of summer. Texas summer I might add.
Oh well, just a rant.

**TD SPOILER AND PERSONAL SAY SO STUFF**
I liked it. I was hoping it would end some where along these lines. What I usually hate about finales is that some writers always believe that to have a good ending they have to kill off some semi important or key character. This was better. I do agree with the only real bad point though. The call from Gwen was pretty random. Other than that it was great.
One question- Why is Brooklyn still having problems with his shoulder? Is there still a residue of magic in it because he turned to stone before the ruby eyed creatures finished?
Anyhow great ending.
***END***

Ordell-I think the "revelation" that Gside is talking about is when Sata was battling what's her name and had a quick flashback of when the twins were hatched.

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Friday, June 30, 2000 02:22:10 PM
IP: spider-wc063.proxy.aol.com

*Hyperion enters, blindingly bright as usual*

Note to everyone: Always, always, yield to incoming fire. No exceptions.

So, hmm...don't really recognise anyone here...too bad.
Oh well, hello everyone.
Question to anyone who knows: will there be anything with TGS: Gargoyles? Now that TD is over with...?
Drat, must run.
Ciao!


Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 02:11:09 PM
IP: ehdup-u-38.rmt.net.pitt.edu

JAFSR (Just A Few Short Replies...)

***TD SPOILER***

Well, I liked this finale. Well written as usual, a good battle scene. I also liked how the twins situation was resolved, and finally we discovered what those armbands the wear are for (although it seems to me this solution contrasts with some of the hints we took in previous TGS stories...it is not really important, anyway). For the timedancing journal...it is quite easy for me to picture an elderly Brooklyn sitting at a table and writing his memories...and I liked the final scene with Harthot too.
***END SPOILER***

Warpmind:> <grins> Hey! Beware of what you say, Warpmind, there are kids out there listening...not to mention the famous spy from Disney that for sure is well paid just for sit in some off-sight office and take notice of everything is said in here that could allow Disney to shut down the whole site (BTW, Hi, Mr. Spy, how do you do? Do you enjoy here? ;). Anyway...good, I knew I could count on Imperial engineers...53 degrees? Oh, well, it will last, and don't worry for the weight limit, we're surely within...;)

Winterwolf:> <<I've printed out a high resolution color copy that I hung up on my wall.>> I've done the same thing. I've had exactly your same reaction as I've seen the picture...

Doug:> As far as I know, Nicola has never published anything online (he's totally dumb about computers and tehnology in general, and he refuses to learn more...). Anyway, I'll ask him, maybe he has given his pieces to someone for publishing them. I'll let you know. About translation programs...hmmm, I've learnt by experience that they are not very reliable...;)
I agree woth your statement about publishing industry: they should change their way of acting...

Later everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Friday, June 30, 2000 01:54:53 PM
IP: h213-46-214.mi2.albacom.net

**RP AHEAD, PRECEDING A LONG POST**

As the screen comes on, Shap and Shauna are at an Atlanta rental car place, where Shauna is arguing with a clerk while Shap is calling someone on his cell phone. "Um, hello?" a voice on the other end picks up and asks. Shap frowns, not recognizing it. "Is Kit there?" "Uh, this is Leah Howell," comes the reply. "If you're looking for the Ravens they had to go to someplace called the Avatar to fight some demons. They're, um, a little busy right now." "They are?" Shap's eyes widen. "Well, um, okay, I'm sorry I missed out on that. Just tell them to call Shap as soon as they get back down to Earth, okay?" "Alright. Um, if I may ask, what's going on?" "Who wants to know?" "I'm one of the two soldiers your friends are holding prisoner. I'd like to know what danger you might be dragging us into." Shap raises his eyebrows. "Oh, you're that Leah Howell. Well, um, listen, ma'am, I don't know if the Ravens will be taking you along or not. If they're at Area 51, they probably should leave you there with the other prisoners." "There's only one other thanks to a gunfight in the Clark Mountain Pass." "Oh. Sorry I didn't know. I've been in deep cover the last week or so. Look, just have the Ravens call me, Shap, as soon as they get back down. I'll explain everything then. Right now my lady and I are still trying to get out of Atlanta. Alright?" "Alright," Leah says and hangs up. Shap does the same, then turns to ask Shauna if she's managed to get a car rented for the long term yet. "Who was it?" Mansfield asks Leah back in the Onslaught's trailer. "One of the Raven members they sent to Atlanta," she replies. "Apparently he's found something bad there." "Not our problem," Mansfield shrugs. "Could be if we're dragged into it." "Then I hope we're not," her comrade sighs, going back to watching the monitor in their cell.

The screen changes its display to that monitor's image as Forfexx and Anoth jump out of their portal to face Nine and look her over. She sizes them up and smirks. "Ah, at last some worthy opponents! Your power levels may still be much lower than mine, but at least you have a chance at survival!" "This is the big bad demon?" Anoth asks. Doug nods. "Yeah, we've been trying to kill her, but apparently she's way too powerful." "Tell me about it," Stephanie coughs, pulling herself out of the wall. She looks at the unconscious Keith and the five other wounded Ravens and grimaces. "You guys look the worse for wear." "We are the worse for wear," Kit snaps, pointing at Nine. "Our weapons barely even dent this <bleep>!" "So you've learned," Nine laughs. "Your friends' weapons could probably damage me," she adds, nodding at the frowning Anoth and eagerly grinning Forfexx, "so if they want to fight…" "We want to fight!" Forfexx declares. "Let's get her!" "Wait!" Miriam holds up her hand. "Look at where we're standing. This control room is full of vital and delicate electronics. I'm surprised none of them have been damaged already." She turns to Nine. "Would you be agreeable to a change of scenery? The Avatar has an arena a few levels down for the express purpose of big fights." Nine shrugs. "Wherever I kill people is fine. Just as he comes along." She points at the grimacing Mephisto. "We better come too to see how this turns out," Tom suggests to Doug and Kit who nod. "Orion, you and Lathrop look like you need rest," Kit suggests. "Go take it. Trish, can you get Keith and Stephanie to the infirmary to get a look-over and heal up?" "Can do," the psychic nods. "And we will be glad to rest," Lathrop yawns, shaking his sweat-soaked head. "I'll see if the Avatar stores are still intact and have any potions of healing to spare," says Jammer. "I'm guessing you guys are out of them." Doug nods. "Yeah, we are." "Mr. Nereus, can you stay here and analyze the control systems?" Miriam asks Wilek. "See if there is any damage to them?" "Uh, okay," Wilek shrugs, "but I'm still worried about this big demon." He looks at Nine. "We'll take care of her, boss," Anoth assures him. "Just have to get to the arena." Forfexx nods and grins. "I'll stay here and help you," Anthony tells Wilek. "I have some computer skills." "Alright, if you want to do that," Wilek grins. "I'd appreciate it." "The rest of us will head down to the arena then," says Doug. "Right?" Boris and Elena nod that they're coming, and so do Tom and Kit. "Me too!" Stephanie shouts. "I don't need to go to the infirmary. Yeah, hitting that wall really hurt, but I'm immortal! I'm just a little winded! I…" "Go!" Kit tells her. "Just in case." Her sister sighs. "Oh, alright." "I'll beam the rest of us down," Miriam says, taking out a remote control and pressing a few buttons. She, Anoth, Forfexx, most of the Ravens in the room, Nine, and Mephisto are engulfed in blue beams of light as the screen fades out.

**END RP FIRST HALF**

Hi everyone. <sighs> Boy, this has been a hectic week. School and work taking up my time, other hassles going on, etc. Haven't had much time to work on Night of the Symbiotes 3 due to all this (and also something else I took time out of it to work on- GXB, Pistoff, and Denis know what that is). I just have 3 scenes left, though, only one of which is really big (I'll probably do it tomorrow), so the story should be done soon. Needless to say, I am looking very forward to this Fourth of July weekend. Gonna be one awesome celebration here in Austin, hopefully around the rest of the world that celebrates it too. :) Okay, now it's time to get on to replies and comments. Haven't had time this week to do them till now, sorry about that. Let's get on with them. <grin>

Soundtrack Note: Kit and I both forgot to include Alanis Morrisette in our listed music. How could we? <sighs> Mistake has been remedied now! :)

SJ: Thanks for the continuing bits of entertainment info. Not that excited about Indy 4 or Batman- Year One even with the good people working on the scripts and direction. I guess I'm just not excited about seeing the franchises continued. :( Terminator 3 and Jurassic Park 3 don't thrill me for similar reasons, but I'm still interested in seeing them. Hope they're good. Hope even more, though, that Hollywood will soon start using more original ideas instead of just doing the same things over and over again. <fingers crossed> I also agree with you about Wallace and Gromit, never really watched them but what I've seen of their work hasn't been that great IMO. Sorry Fox Animation Studios is gone too, I liked Titan AE even if it did have some imperfections (including the bad advertising and budget job Robby mentioned). <sighs> Oh well. Congrats on getting your summer courses over and done.

Elian: He's home now, and I say it's about time. :) Hope he enjoys living in Cuba, even with all its unfortunate differences from America. I doubt there's much chance he can come back here if he doesn't. <shrug> That's all I have to say about that.

Jackal: I totally agree with you about Aris. Thanks for not getting mad over my driving him out (I've already punished myself enough for that, but it's a story for another day). Sorry to hear about your troubles with the new child, IMO an event like that should always be a joyous occasion. It's not for you, though, and while I can understand that (I guess), I don't like it. <sigh> Whatever happens with it, I hope things turn out alright. I'm not going to be judgmental. Just hope it turns out well. :)

Shadowrider: I too like your friend Nicola's poetry and am surprised it hasn't been published. The world publishing industry needs to start judging people on the quality of their work and not how established they are (not to mention they'll never get established if they don't get published even once). I wonder if his work is published online anywhere, if so I'd appreciate a link to the website. Doesn't matter if it's in Italian, I keep several foreign language translation programs on my computer. Thanks in advance if you can provide a link, if not thanks for the nice little bit you showed to us. :) Also, I'm glad you weren't sick for too long. <grins, kills Sli Sludge to help any other sick CR dwellers get well soon>

Daniel Johnson: Welcome back, even if it was only briefly. Thanks for the good sayings you shared.

Emmabu: Welcome back to you also, thanks for sharing that great Gargoyles-related story with us. I have got to take a vacation in Delaware Beach sometime, sounds like the people there have their hearts in the right place more so than those who dwell in many other parts of the world. :) Glad to know we can count on them to be fans if Gargoyles ever gets back on the air, and to at least remember and treat others with the lessons it taught us even if it never does. <half-grin>

Coyote: Sorry about the car troubles, hope they end soon. Kit and I feel your pain, having just sent our Volvo in for a complete tune-up last week that the previous owner neglected to tell us it needed. <grumble> The mechanics also found cracked belts and a shot driveshaft bearing, which we had to replace. Expensive, but worth it. Hope your Mom's car gets fixed soon and she can get a new and better one in good condition too. :)

Welcome to Female Brooklyn, Knoxville, and Tony! Hope you all enjoy this place (and don't mind losing your sanity, unless of course it's already gone :).

Female Brooklyn: Glad to see you here particularly, though we still miss Jaden it's good to have another friend of his around. If he's still in contact with you, please tell him we hope he comes back very soon. :) Until then, we welcome you into the room, and hope you will enjoy sharing your friendship with us. <grin>

Males and Sex: I find humor related to this funny too, sometimes. Stone Bikini was one of those, certain awful movies including it aren't. Too bad stories with the quality of the latter are much more common than ones with the quality of the former. <sigh>

**SPOILERS FOR TIMEDANCER**

Good work Robby, Stephen, and Ordell!! Part 2 of Return to Paradise was far better than Part 1. Even with the somewhat expected outcome of the twins' survival, the scene of their hatching and birth was very cute and fun to watch. :) Also liked the surprises in this one related to Harthoth (good scenes with his character and nice job developing it) and Payne (seeing that he was Ilsa Winters shocked me to say the least). Payne/Loki's character portrayal in this worked very well, even with the limited buildup for it, it was neat seeing how his enmity with Brooklyn played out for both their characters and the climactic fight between them was very well-written, -choreographed, and -illustrated (great pics!). Also liked the character development Brooklyn and Sata underwent, and getting to see Lex (we'll have to find out how he survived to the future sometime :). The little snippets of development on Tamur, Alex, and Serena were also well-done, hope to find out Serena's history sooner or later. The one thing I didn't like in this story was the scene with Gwen and Angela. It was good, but since we never learned the reason why she called home and it wasn't really connected to any other part of the story, it felt unnecessary and thrown-in. Other than that, the story was excellent. 9.5/10, thumbs up there. Looking very forward to Timedancer's next season, especially seeing what Harthoth could be up to next and how the twins will get their names (creativity demon- Tamur suggests to Sata that she name her daughter after "a great female gargoyle warrior of the last century who has been my inspiration." Sata agrees. Later, due to time travel, Arianna turns out to really be that warrior…:). Keep up the good work!!

**SPOILERS END**

SOROW: Sorry your summer's being taken up with hassles, but that's the way it usually goes. Not just for you either. :( I pray you get the chance to enjoy it at least some of the time. Hope your senior pictures come out alright too, that one of you surrounded by Garg toys sounds like a good inclusion. :) If I may ask, what's your senior quote going to be, or do you not yet know?

Mecord: Good luck finishing your story soon. Also hope your workload eases up, I too know from experience that long shifts are never fun. :( At least you're handling them well, it seems. :)

Archwolf: <nods> You do have to be very careful with preconceptions. For the reasons you mentioned, I try to avoid them as much as I can. So far, that's gotten good results. Hope it does for you too, if you decide to adopt it. :) I also agree with you about Path of Daggers. Big letdown, especially since Jordan didn't off any more of the hundreds of bad guys in his saga, the character development he wrote in wasn't that great, and he forgot to bring back my favorite character Mat. WOT Book 9 had better be more mindful of what the fans want. <glower> Hope it arrives soon too. As for what happened at your job, I'm sorry to hear about that. Sounds like your supervisor needs to get her head screwed on correctly. I'll be praying that you and your partner can come through the mess alright, and hope things improve soon.

Hi Joe!! <waves>

Christine: Don't worry, we still remembered you were around, though we did miss you. :) Good luck with your writing, and hope you can come back soon.

Chess: This is indeed a very cool game. Especially when you're good at it. :) I too have seen the kind of players Winterwolf mentioned, and they've taught me many interesting things. Wish those lessons would allow me to win more. <sighs> Oh well.

Kyryn: The bit I gave to Coyote about the car applies to you and yours too. Sorry about the auto problems, glad you got them fixed. Also sorry to hear about Okami's grandmother passing away. Hopefully she's gone to a better place.

Niamhgold: <fear of beetles> Try entymophobia. That's what Kit says it is anyway, not sure if she's right. <ducks slap> Glad you and others are looking forward to my next fanfic. I will be getting it out very soon.

Taleweaver: <nods> I agree about the imperfections of TV right now. Merchandising really needs to lose its power if we're going to get back quality in movies and animation. <sighs> Oh well, at least we do get some really excellent products now and then, like Gargoyles, Buffy and Angel, and the Patriot. Hope they inspire more quality productions and fewer ones that are just there to promote the junk franchises very soon. <fingers crossed>

Survivor: Don't watch that show, hate its very concept just like I hate NAMBLA's (yeah, I know I haven't been commenting on that organization. As somebody who is disgusted by homosexuality even though they accept that some people have the right to participate in it and is grossed out and horrified even more by child molesting, my reasons should not be difficult to guess). Game shows today are terrible, IMO. It's all about greed, winning, and competition, not about the good things they used to include like cooperating with one's team, taking good consolation prizes gracefully, and so on. These days teammates are working against each other as well as against the other teams (Greed and Survivor), people whine about losing, prizes are ridiculous, the contests seem more like torturous spectacle than fair play (Survivor especially, eating rats and getting shot at by militiamen should not be part of a game show in my opinion), and it's all glorified. Saddens me very much, especially when I see it having effects on other parts of our society. <sighs> I too would not be surprised though if we get a Running Man game show sooner or later, I wouldn't mind seeing one if it's like the Stephen King book (complete with the awesome ending!). One Stephen King inspired game show I'd like to see more, though, and maybe enjoy participating in, would be the Long Walk. Has anyone else ever read that book of his? Synopsis- One hundred boys, two from each of the fifty states, are made to compete in a walk all across the East Coast. They can not stop for anything, not to sleep, not to eat (they have to eat, drink, and answer calls of nature on the hoof), nothing. If they do stop or they slow down too much, they get three warnings from soldiers in jeeps keeping pace with them and then they get shot. People on the sidelines cheer them on as they come through every town, shaking their heads when some die, and overall treating the event like fans treat any spectator sport these days. At the end, the main character is so caught up in walking he keeps doing it even when the sadistic Major who leads the soldiers (and who put his own bastard of an illegitimate son in the race to watch him die) tells him he can stop, he's won. I would like to participate in this for two reasons- One, I could win. I have lots of endurance. Two, the prize in the contest is anything the winner wants. If I won, my prize would be nothing less than sweet and poetic revenge. (IE, I would gather up the Major, his soldiers who shot all my buddies, and all the fans who cheered them on and didn't show human decency by getting in the way of things, and we'd re-enact the walk. Only this time I'd be in the jeep with the gun and they would be the contestants. :)

Welcome back Mandolin, Cyborg, and Zath! Have missed you guys. Hope the hassles in your life die down soon so you can come back. Mandi, I'm also glad your Mom's wedding went well. :)

Firestorm: You did get Kit's and my vote for all the pictures which we gave you and LM in the CR, right? Hope so, and that more people start voting soon. :)

Brooklyn: The Pure and the Profane is the Christine Morgan story you're looking for. A very good one, even with the IMO sick and perverted content. Hope you enjoy it. <half-smirk>

Warpmind: I agree with you about Johnny Cage's great lines in the Mortal Kombat movie, though there are some I liked better than the ones you mentioned- "Those were five hundred dollar sunglasses, @$$hole"; and of course the famous "This is where you fall down." :)

Rodlox: Hope you come back soon too, will miss you. $ Don't worry, we'll do our best to keep your character involved in the RP. $

And I guess that's all for now, since I've reached the top of the CR. Have to get to class now too, I better go. Will see you all later, thanks for reading. Hope you will read my next fanfic too when it comes out (don't worry, that will be very soon :). Bye!!

**RESUME RP**

As the screen's image comes back on, beams of blue light flare, and all those who they engulfed in the RP above appear in a large arena room reminiscent of the Coliseum, only a lot more futuristic in its styling. "Welcome to the Avatar's arena," Miriam says. Nine looks around and smiles. "Nice place. I suggest who doesn't want to get into the fight about to begin goes to the bleachers." Miriam nods in agreement and motions to a stairway leading up into them nearby. The Ravens and Mephisto follow her up it and sit down, while Anoth and Forfexx remain below to exchange many choice challenging phrases with Nine. "I hope your friends can defeat that creature," Mephisto tells Doug and Kit as they watch. "Otherwise I may come to believe you people are all hot air." "We're not," Kit reminds him. "You better remember our deal when they win. You leave this station and relinquish your claim to SJ's soul." "Hmph," Mephisto crosses his arms. "We'll see about that." "Guys, the fight is starting!" Elena shouts. "Let's save the arguments for later and watch it, okay?" The others sigh, but nod, then turn to the fight as it begins. "I don't know why you think these two can beat me, mortals!" Nine laughs from below. "They only have a small chance!" With that she throws a flame corona at Anoth and Forfexx, but they are easily able to dodge it. "We'll see!" Anoth snaps, returning fire with a energy blast that hits Nine in the chest and knocks her back. Giggling maniacally, Forfexx rushes in with claws extended and begins hacking at Nine once he's tackled her. Pink smoke engulfs them both with his continued strikes and Nine's screams of surprise. "Is he killing her?" Doug asks. "I don't think so," Tom frowns, adjusting his mini-cam's lens to get a better view. Just then, the smoke flows away from Forfexx, who is looking around confused as he holds the shattered remains of Nine's armor in his hands. It coalesces into the outline of Nine and then flashes, revealing her standing on thin air with her arms crossed now wearing a skintight black catsuit. "Ha!" the demoness snickers. "I must thank you. You got me out of my armor! And as a result you've caused my power level to increase 4000 points!" Anoth grimaces and fires an energy ray, but it bounces right off Nine's stomach and ricochets into a wall. She grins. "Did I mention that in this form I also have the quality of Invincible Near-Nudity?" "Maybe, maybe not!" Forfexx shouts, rushing in and leaping at Nine, striking at her with claws and kicks. She dodges them all, striking back with moves reminiscent of the Matrix and knocks him across the arena floor. He gets up wincing after he hits the ground. "Who is this girl?" Boris asks, his jaw hanging down. "The ninth most powerful demon in Hell," Doug answers. "That's what Mephisto here told us she was anyway." Kit grimaces as Nine starts to take on Anoth and Forfexx easily, showing she has the upper hand and maintaining it with every blow. "This is the ninth?" she shakes her head. "Something tells me I'd hate to see the first."

Meanwhile, at Thailog's secret base, the evil gargoyle and his minions are seated around their meeting table listening to Jerec as he speaks to them via a transmission screen. "I have not implemented my plan for the Ravens' leader Doug yet," the Dark Jedi is saying. "I haven't gotten the chance. However, I have been doing some spying and I've found out something's going on in Atlanta. It's got the Ravens worried. Perhaps we should check out what it is?" "Maybe," Thailog nods, then shakes his head. "No, I think we will." He glances at his subordinates, his eyes finally lighting on Corax. "Where's Tyl?" "He had to go to the Middle East, sir," the young hacker whines. "Something about a side job he was doing." "A side job?" Thailog stands up and roars. "He's moonlighting?" "With all due respect, sir, you don't pay us very well, and…" "Silence!" Thailog snaps, spinning to look at the others. "You," he points at Admiral Nipon. "You haven't done anything important for us for a while. You go!" "Um, Lord Thailog," Nipon frowns. "I have blue skin and red eyes, I can't change shape. Unless there's a sci-fi convention in Atlanta right now, I'll stick out like a sore thumb." "I'll give you one of my alter-self potions," says Kharsus. "Alright," Nipon shrugs. "Perhaps then I can go." "You will go," Thailog commands him. "The rest of us have too many important things to do creating and training the clone soldiers. Report to Zale, then to me." Nipon and Zale both nod, the latter frowning. Thailog turns back to Jerec. "Anything else I need to know about?" "Not right now, sir." "Then you are dismissed," Thailog ends the communication and turns back to the others. "Corax, you send your partner an e-mail telling him to finish his side business and get back here quickly. I'll expect a full report on what he was up to when he does. Dahak, you…" "Lord Thailog," Donna Gardner interrupts. "We have another transmission." "Run it," Thailog waves his hand. "There's no visual component, I'm afraid. Just audio." She presses a button and Guod's voice echoes through the chamber. "Thailog, please respond. I am still alive and in need of assistance. Please come get me. Please respond. Over." "That's Guod," Dahak frowns. "I thought he was dead." "Where is that transmission coming from?" Thailog asks Donna. She checks her display screen and grimaces. "The moon."

**WILL THAILOG BE GOING THERE? FIND OUT NEXT TIME- END RP**

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, June 30, 2000 01:36:23 PM
IP: pool-209-138-163-195.dlls.grid.net

Jericho and Demona > aww, hey, don't just skip right to the dirty parts! LOL! The buildup to the big night makes it even more fun! Or maybe it's just that I'm so arrogant and full of myself that I want everyone to read my every word ... hmm, yeah, that's probably it ... buy my books, too! ; )

Survivor > I am really enjoying this show. It is much more cleverly-planned and thought-out than I expected. The elements of competiton and voting-off add a real zing to things. If I was putting my money on anyone right now, it'd be Sue, the tough spear-chucking militant feminist with the tapioca obsession, to be the one to make it clear to the million.

jacKal > just wanted to say how saddened I was to read your post about the impending arrival. At the risk of bringing up such a potentially volatile topic, why, if this pregnancy is being such a negative event, is it being gone through with? I am guessing at this point that the mother wants it and you don't, which means you're trapped? It seems a very tragic situation, and I wish you the best in dealing with it :(

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 12:17:57 PM
IP: 14-091.009.popsite.net

Hey all...

SJ> Planet of the Apes. I think this might work. Tim Burton is a god of film making, and Walburg is a good actor (Boogie Nights and Three Kings are to of my favorites). Gary Oldman as an ape... maybe a gruff general guy. I've heard Dany DeVito is considered as Dr. Zauis (which immediatly stuck as right in my mind). As Cornelius, someone younger that Nathan Lane. Maybe Wes Bentley (American Beauty), who was one going to play Lestat in the ill fated and horridly awful adaptation of Anne Rice's The Queen of the Damned. As for Zira and Nova... well, I don't really know. Christina Ricci for Nova, maybe, but one of the things I love about her is her voice. But if she's Zira, then she'll be all aped. But she'd be good as either one of those roles...

As for the Kevin Smith news, I'm pretty sure it's going to be Jason Lee in Fletch. He was great as comedic roles in Mallrats, Chasing Amy, and Dogma, but so was Ben Affleck as the more dramatic roles in the same films. Lee desierves a starring for a chance. It wouldn't surprise me if Affleck is in the movie, along with Matt Damon, Jason Mewes, and all the other actors Kev puts in his movies. He's also said this film wouldn't have Jay and Silent Bob in it and he wouldn't even start adapting the book until after he's completed the next (and sadly, probably last) View Askew-niverse film (the same universe as his previous four movies). Long live Jay and Silent Bob!

RtP2> **SPOILERS** Thanks for all the kind comments. I'll be posting my "Making Of" thing as soon as I finish a small FAQ for it. Gside> what revelation in "Blood Moon"? Do you mean the thing about the twins being seperated that was mentioned idly? Because that's all being taken care of, I promise. **END SPOILERS**

Janine> With Terminator 3, true Arnold has signed on, but James Cameron is in no way attatched to the project other than creating the first two. Apparently, a small indepentdent company bought the rights to make under Universal's supervision, and they are making two movies about how the war actually started. They should be very interesting, to say the least.

All for now...

Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Friday, June 30, 2000 11:34:30 AM
IP: 24.116.35.37

It should be fairly easy to catch up with what's happening this week.

Tribbles never appeared in Star Trek: Next Generation. They appeared in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

I read in the news that Microsoft plans on launching a programming language similiar to Java. I have just one question, though. With the possibility of a breakup of its company, should not Microsoft put some items on hold until it is absolutely certain that it will win the court case.

**PARENT COMMENTS**
Against my better judgement, I am going to say a few things. If a parent is smarter than the child, the child will not be able to get away with hardly anything easily. If a child is smarter than the parent, the child will be able to get away with some things easily.
**END PARENT RANT**

I swear that cats have multiple personalities or at the least, experience mood swings.

PETA - unhappy meals? Sheesh, the humane society in my state capitol was opposed to allowing horse drawn carriages in the city. I just have on question for those folks: Did any of their ancestors ride a horse or ride a horse-drawn carriage. Is that not some not super crazy animal rights group? I am one hundred percent against giving money to the humane society in my city because of actions of the same organization in another city.

**BFTS RP**
DPH takes a survey of the outside of his house. The best repair work was done by Plastique Saber, but he realizes he needs his house repaired, SOS contacted, and more training. He goes inside his house and makes a phone call to ITAG.

"Please identify yourself" said the voice on the line.

"DPH Rules" replied DPH.

"What is your request?" answers the voice on the line.

"I need a standard repair crew to repair and upgrade my house." said DPH.

"Ok. What upgrades?" answered the voice on the line.

"Fire Proof exterior walls. Exterior Windows more resistant to sonic weapons and bullet proof. Re-enforce all walls to handle a ram." said DPH.

"How soon?" asked the voice.

"As soon as possible" replied DPH.

"How do you wish to pay for the upgrades?" asked the voice.

"Money comes from my earnings on my next assignment." replied DPH.

"When do you want your next assignment?" asked the voice.

"I will call you at that point." replied DPH.

"The repair crew will be at your home in a few hours. It should take them at most 4 hours to do the repair work." replied the voice.

"Thank you." said DPH and he hung up.
**END BFTS RP for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 11:01:05 AM
IP: max1-7.cwy.cei.net

Dad update> The stiches came out yesterday. He will be home untill the radiation treatments start. He seems to be doing alright (Blessed Jesu), at least he doesn't have any pain sensors up there.

FireStorm> Sent my vote via e- mail to Lady Mystic. (Did she get it?)

Brooklyn> Am I compleatly cut off, or were you unable to contact the server? I know they were doing some work on it, but that is all done with now (I think).

You know, not being able to use les accents is really getting to be a problem for me. Though it has been making me work on my english, I am soarly tempted to shell out for a french computer.

Au revoir mes amis.

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, June 30, 2000 10:50:17 AM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net


apologies to all, but it seems like - between reading the CR postings from while i was away, work, and assaignments - i won't be able to post in the RP for a while.

again, sorry. feel free to use my character though {in the Ravens/10 Saga}.....just don't send him Back, all i asjk. :)


Rodlox
Friday, June 30, 2000 09:13:42 AM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

G2K ALERT! Just 35 days left until The Gathering. Today is June 30, 2000, which means today is the LAST day to get your pre-registration mailed and postmarked before the rate jumps from $40 to $55.

Hope to see everyone in Orlando!

Patrick Toman
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:58:49 AM
IP: aca06bc8.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind skips in, bringing the link to the updated TIE Predator Specs page.*

Fire Storm: Got the e-mail, and those pics were wonderful. :)

Cherry Blossom: You reckon Payne is dead? Well, he *was* a Payne indeed, so he'll be back, I suppose. ;)

SJ: Um, I was talking about Mortal Kombat: the Movie... good flick; Johnny Cage has some killer lines. :) "Join a little tournament, he said. Good for the career, he said." (Just after Sub-Zero killed someone with his Snowball'o'Death...)

This Running Man debate: I guess Wilek and I and whoever else is in on it ought to get going for real... this project is one of those we intend to get to motion once we rule the world...

Gside: Oh, I think I know what a Tribble is, then... that show never ran in Norway; all we got so far is TNG...

Brooklyn: I don't recall the title of that Christine Morgan fic, but if you start at the beginning, you won't have missed anything. ;)

Well, I gotta run. Click my name for updated info on the TIE Predator. (Okay, I just added the pics, so sue me. On second thought, don't sue me.)

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, June 30, 2000 06:00:32 AM
IP: mp-217-198-74.daxnet

Holy Cow Its Raining in the Desert! WOO HOO!

Jurassic Park 3> It will be out July of 2001. I'm not really looking forward to it. I didn't like the second one much.

Terminator 3> Now this I have gotta see! They signed Arnold S. last week or so. I can't wait to see what Mr.Cameron has thought up this time!

Indiana Jones 4> They just got Harrison Ford signed up this week! Again another I can't wait for! OOHHHHH! I wonder what they will come up with next?!!

Winterwolf> Hi. I applied for the job. They werent hiring so they put my application on record. Its okay though it just gives me more time to design cloths and try to figure out my costumes. I still haven't gotten the parts:( But never fear Janine is here! If I don't get it done for this Halloween I'll have it for the one after and for the Gathering 2001. I still can't believe I maxed out my e-mail! Oh well! Off to find the M&M fabric! I'll explain later:)

Bye everyone.

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa, Az
Friday, June 30, 2000 04:20:14 AM
IP: phx-210.treknet.net

Hello
Time for whats turning every other night post. On to some replies.
Well as Winterwolf said it looks full speed ahead for the downloadable movie files. Definately two kinds of downloads for Quicktime and one for RealPlayer. This is probably how it's going to be set up, All mail regarding which eps are up is sent to my mail. From there I tell Winterwolf and he puts it up. Any preference as to which episode is up first? Mail me.
My fanfic is going well. I urge those who haven't read to do so, and thank those that have. I'll post part 2 tomorrow.
Hope all of you enjoy!!!!
<Winterwolf>
Mail me tomorrow. Can you post my fic again? I'm still not understanding .html :(
Let me know what you think on the matter.
<Question>
Does anybody here no the Christine Morgan story were Jericho and Demona consumate their relationship? I want to read it!Please help me out here.
<Janine>
Loved talking w/ you last night. We clarified our boundaries and that's a good thing!
Let's do it again some time!
<Emambu>
Hey Are ya buddy? Thanks for the mail I look forward to hearing from you again! Mail me!
<Cyborg>
Your mail isn'r working I tried twice.:( Can you give me an alternate one? I could use that! See ya in the CR!
<Rodlox>
Waiting to hear from you on the garg physche! I know it is good! I just want to read it!
<Gasper>
Remember what I said the other night. You're always welcome here! I hope you no longer lurk! I for one want you to stay!
I'm going to peruse you fics tomorrow!
< Gargoyles Dublin : No where to Hide announcemet>
I will post part 2 tomorrow. For those who are interested. After part 3, be prepared for 12 more episodes in the 1st season!I hope you have as much reading as I have writing!

That's it for tonight!
See you tomorrow!


Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 03:11:53 AM
IP: usr9.cqc.com

Hello
Time for whats turning every other night post. On to some replies.
Well as Winterwolf said it looks full speed ahead for the downloadable movie files. Definately two kinds of downloads for Quicktime and one for RealPlayer. This is probably how it's going to be set up, All mail regarding which eps are up is sent to my mail. From there I tell Winterwolf and he puts it up. Any preference as to which episode is up first? Mail me.
My fanfic is going well. I urge those who haven't read to do so, and thank those that have. I'll post part 2 tomorrow.
Hope all of you enjoy!!!!
<Winterwolf>
Mail me tomorrow. Can you post my fic again? I'm still not understanding .html :(
Let me know what you think on the matter.
<Question>
Does anybody here no the Christine Morgan story were Jericho and Demona consumate their relationship? I want to read it!Please help me out here.
<Janine>
Loved talking w/ you last night. We clarified our boundaries and that's a good thing!


Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 02:55:34 AM
IP: usr9.cqc.com

Timedancer: **SPOILERS** Very nice, once again. A couple editing mistakes, though: a switched vowel, a couple missing words (one, who). Also forgot about the revelations in Blood Moon, specifically the chibi-saru-kun bit. **/SPOILERS**

Cali`ope> <<Randy Newman? I have no clue:P Who is he?>>: Musician. One of his more famous pieces was Short People. I quite like it (among other works of his). "Short people got no reason to live. They got little hands/Little eyes
They walk around/Tellin' great big lies..."

DPH> <<Is anyone else out there smarter than his/her parent>>: The standard joke over here is that my father would not last a week without my mother. Also, I am his reference material for any questions he has for his classes. And I had such a hard time showing him why you can't fit more rows of chairs in stadium seating (assuming constant legroom, same sized chairs).

Warpmind> <<what's a tribble, anyway?>>: Think of a palm-sized, incredibly cute (possible due to pheremones), hairy amoeba. Was popularized in a classic Star Trek episode.

Emambu> Condolences on the loss of the great uncle. I lost one of mine pretty close to two years ago. Married into the family, but still well loved.
<<bring a taser and use it as liberally and as frequentely as possible>>: build it into a sledgehammer head, and hook the trigger to a shotgun's cocking mechanism.

Welcome back Zath.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, June 30, 2000 02:46:56 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

°°°°°Classic JackaL rant°°°
Ever felt like you wanted to die!?
Now imagine feeling that way for about a year! ::Sighs::
This is the frist of my children I'll be able to share with yall, so I guess I should make the best of it. ::deep sigh:: The second trimester has begun and we don't know what it is yet, simply putting it, it's in the 4th month. We won't know the sex until the 10th, and the mother gets on my ever loving last nerve...., {Green Baron, I ask for ur secrecy both inside AND outside the CR.} I've learned that pregnancy turns all you women into whores. But it just might be my experience.., but then, I now have 3 kids from 3 different mothers, all of them the same. Like I said, it might be me, maybe I'm the whore. I've gotta go back to therapy early next month and I wanna rip his eyes out for takin my other 2 kids away from me. So, no. I bullshyt you not, when I say I took a wrong turn for my life somewhere. Now- that among other things is exactly way all my lights aren't on upstairs. So just move slowly and remain calm and I won't flip out. ;o)
°°°End°°°°°

jacKal
Friday, June 30, 2000 02:19:53 AM
IP: ac8003e6.ipt.aol.com

**Winterwolf yawns as he enters the CR**

Just replying this time around.

Archwolf> I hope work was better than last night. I hope you partner is having a better time and won't be reprimanded again for mistakes she didn't make.

Janine> <where are you> It seems I just miss you some nights. :( Still I did catch you tonight! :) See you again next time. <Applying for job Friday> I hope you get it! I still have all my fingers and even my toes crossed for you! <tribbles> I loved the tribbles you came up with! <See Ya Later Alligators> In a while crocodile! ^_^

Wilek> I'm impressed (or maybe I should be disturbed) that you continued the tribble line. Very cute.

Caliope> Hi. :)

Taleweaver> I guess this I why I don't watch much TV or see many movies.

DPH> I'll just be difficult and say science, technology and magic. Okay I meant technology and magic.

Niamhgold> <Fear of beetles> Unless you want her to go nuts I'd avoid taking her to see Mummy. If you give her a scarab would she freak out?

Emambu> <babble on and on...> Go right ahead. If it's posted I read it. :) <Gathering and Disney> If you can do some form of mass hypnosis then you could get Gargs back on the air. I'll be in Florida too, but I'l definitely be attending G2K this year. Have fun in Florida!

Shadowrider> <Ceramic turtle image> I expected it to be beautiful. When I saw it I realized it was even more stunning than that. I'm still in shock right now. I've printed out a high resolution color copy that I hung up on my wall. This way I get to see it every day.

Cyborg> I'm praying that things get better for you and your dad.

Zath> Hi Zath! Welcome back!

******SHORT BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf wakes up and figures he should head out to see Stable Operating System. He wonders if anyone wants to go with him as he heads downstairs.

******END SHORT BFTS - RP******

Good night! See you next time!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, June 30, 2000 01:32:27 AM
IP: nas-14-175.nyc.navipath.net

Mandolin> <<Mom's wedding (which went off without a hitch>> Would a wedding going without a hitch be a good thing or a bad thing? ; )

**Zath runs away before anyone can throw rotten fruit**

Zath
Friday, June 30, 2000 12:58:34 AM
IP: ns7-08.viptx.net

Hi! Pistoff told me people were wondering where I disappeared off to, so I realized it was time to drop in and let everyone know I was still alive (although I was in here a couple of weeks ago and managed to land a quick anonymous spot on the top ten before my mom made me relinquish the computer) . I haven’t caught up with the room yet, so I currently have no idea what any of the conversations about, but hopefully that will change in the near future. Right now all I have to say is if the national tour of The Scarlet Pimpernel ever comes anywhere near where you live you should go see it (I think it’ll be in Washington DC for most of July). You just have to love a musical with a song about the guillotine, onstage decapitations, and a hero who hides his secret identity by pretending to be an idiot and gives himself the nickname "Pimpy." : )

Okay, that’s all for the moment. I’ll be back (hopefully soon). Bye for now.

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 12:52:09 AM
IP: ns7-08.viptx.net

***BEGIN RP***
Gigamantis shrieked and sent a thunderbolt straight at Four. With ease, the warrior dispersed the bolt with an energy blast of her own. The insect demon moved in close, and attempted to dropkick her, but she was far too swift. She sidestepped his attack, and delivered a roundhouse kick to the back of his head. Her boot made a faintly metallic clang as it struck the hard armor of Gigamantis' exoskeleton. Showing remarkable flexibility, however, the demon turned his waist alomst 180 degrees around, and quickly backhanded Four with one of his scythe forearms. She stumbled back a few feet, which left her open to an attack by the awaiting Belzelk.
The large green demon twirled his war flail, glowing red with energy, above his head, then he sent it sailing straight through the air towards Four. The blow struck her square in the back. A miniature explosion erupted from where the flail touched her armor, as the energy Belzelk had stored in the weapon was discharged straight into her body. Four grunted, but did not appear particularly damaged by the blow.
She jerked her head back quickly when Gigamantis attempted to cut off her face with his blade-like hands. In retaliation, she grabbed him by his shoulders and tossed him straight into a nearby hill. The force of impact sent him buried several feet into the dirt.
Belzelk gritted his tusks and swung his flail high into the air, then bringing it straight down into the ground. As soon as the steel ball touch the earth, large, sharp shards of stone began to sprout like teeth from the the soil. Belzelk gestured with his fist towards Four, and like tiny granite missiles, the shards began to bombard Four. She swatted most of them away, but occasionally a few would crack apart against her armor. When the barrage was done, she was not smiling. "Are all earth warriors like you? You're worse than a gnat or a horsefly. You try to annoy me with simple tricks. If you want to attack me, show me some real power!"
"You asked for it," Belzelk muttered. He turned to see Gigamantis emerge from the hill, dirty but relatively unharmed. "Gig, she wants us to show her sumthin' special."
Mantis chattered loudly.
"Yep. You got it. Show her the Purple Electric."
Mantis nodded, and once again his antennae began to glow. Above the battlefield, storm clouds began to form. They were thick, black, pregnant with energy and malevolence...and Mantis was the focal point. With a flash of bright light, Gigamantis fired a brief salvo of energy from his antennae into the clouds....and then waited.
Four almost laughed out loud. "Well, you seem to be very good at changing the weather forecast, terran, but what do you expect--"
Her words were abruptly cut short. Without a sound, a tremendous bolt of purple lightning shot down from the center of the clouds and struck Four at ground zero. Her body was engulfed in the electricity, and the area around her was caught in such a tremendous flash of light, that no one could see what had become of her. A few seconds later, a tremendous thunderclap followed the attack.
"Purple Electric," Belzelk snorted, explaining to the others, who stood with mouths gaping at the assault. "Let's see how she stands up to a few million volts of lightning coursing through her body!"
***END RP***

Hey all. In case you haven't heard, there's a hostage situation going on (or was going on) in Florida, at Disney World. Some guy is/was holding his child and another hostage at some Disney Hotel. Horrible situation, one I'm hoping will be resolved / has been resolved, and resolved peacefully. Especially since the Gathering is just a little over a month away.

Right now, some Entertainment Info! Be forewarned, it's full of information that some would consider proof that Hollywood is devoid of originality. [Why is this a shock? Hollywood has been largely devoid of talent and originality for a good 20 years now.]

Kevin Smith News: For any fans of director/writer/occasional actor Kevin Smith (and I don't know if anyone in the CR really is), he's signed on to make a new Fletch movie. Fletch, as many may remember, was a funny movie starring Chevy Chase, back when Chevy Chase was still funny. Long before the movie version, Fletch was a series of books, of which Kevin Smith is a big fan. So he plans to adapt one of the books, "Fletch Won", into a brand new Fletch movie. His early casting choices for the role of Fletch are either Ben Affleck or Jason Lee.
Which disturbs me. Lee I can handle, because Jason Lee is the funniest thing in both Mallrats AND Chasing Amy. But Kevin's got a supreme mad-on for Affleck, and I can't say I share that view.

More Damn Dirty Apes News: Rumor out now is that, in addition to Mark Wahlberg doing his best Chuck "I AM the NRA!" Heston impression, talented thespian and generally-bad-guy-playing actor Gary Oldman may sign on as a human-hating ape senator.
I wonder who they'll get to play the effeminant chimp, Cornelius, that Rodney McDowell portrayed? Maybe Nathan Lane.....And who will play Dr. Zaius?

Caliope: Jurassic Park 3 will strictly be a movie. It's meant to further the Jurassic franchise, and as far as I know, Crichton is in no way attached to the project. He hasn't written a new Jurassic Park novel, and will not be writing the screenplay. However, since he did create the characters, I do assume he'll probably work in some way with the movie, maybe as a story consultant. But no, no new Jurassic Park novel.

Warpmind: Are you talking about the Mortal Kombat live-action series? I remember watching that show. Horrible acting, but the fight scenes were pretty good for syndicated TV. And the endless stream of scantily clad female warriors was always welcome. ;) Too bad the show only lasted one season, they had some room for improvement...which I suppose was why they only lasted one season, they had maybe a little too much room for improvement...

Running Man: In Pat's sarcastic little social commentary, he brought up an idea I think is wonderful--the Running Man TV Show! Hell, this could be great! People always complain that capital punishment is too costly, right? Not anymore. You televise those executions, and the ad revenue alone would create all kinds of economic turnover. You could get America's most beloved host, Regis Philbin, to front the whole thing. "Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Who wants to see an execution?" Hey, if Bush becomes Pres, maybe he'd okay the idea. Fox would probably run it. If not, there's always UPN. They're hurting for something that'll draw in those wrestling ratings.
I mean, let me use an example from my home state of VA. We got a guy here, named Russell Burket, he just got a stay of execution for his case to be reviewed. Here's what this guy did, though: he freely confessed to breaking into a woman's house, raping her both vaginally and anally with a tire iron, and then beating her to death with the weapon. Then he bludgeoned the woman's 5 year old daughter to death. And he tried to bludgeon the 3 year old son to death, only paramedics arrived before the kid could expire. You think I have any sympathy for this son of a bitch? Here's what I envision: sort of like that Running Man movie, with people choosing the execution. You know, you steer away from the more "boring" stuff like lethal injection. You go straight for the flamboyant stuff, like, oh....say, flesh-eating dogs. Give this poor bastard Burket a good 30 second head start, then turn them loose! "But wait!" Regis informs the audience. "What Burket doesn't realize is that we've secretly hidden a hamburger in his pants pocket..." Ah, what a Grand Guignol it would be!!!
Hmm....perhaps I have some leftover hostility from the capital punishment debate over in the S8 room the other day. Well, if Draco were alive and well today, I'm sure he'd love the idea.

What's with the outcry against Survivor, though? I think it's a great show. Funny as hell, especially the awkward hetero/homo relationship between Rudy and Richard. The ratings are killer, so I suspect there's more people who enjoy the show than not. Most people find it entertaining. Let CBS promote the show, it's the only decent thing they have on their crappy network. After all, it'll only be a month or two before every other network makes a cheap-ass ripoff of the show (like NBC, and Fox, AND CBS did with "Millionaire") and by one year's time, tops, America will be too saturated with the concept that they won't watch any of the shows anymore. But by then the new "flavor of the season" will have arrived. ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, June 30, 2000 12:38:50 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

good story! *sings* Payne is dead, Payne is dead...I think. ;)
cherry blossom
Friday, June 30, 2000 12:22:25 AM
IP: spider-tk082.proxy.aol.com

Warpmind: The pictures are done and the e-mail is sent!

Cyborg: <"Netscape's network connection was refused by the server. The server may not be accepting connections or may be busy. Try connecting again later.">
Odd... most likely your e-mail functions in Netscape are not set up correctly or your e-mail server is having a bad day.

Christine: <Go, raptors!!! (three guesses what my fave dino is!)>
Whats not to love? Fast, agile, smart, and deadly as hell!

Fire Storm - [<--- Yes, you can still vote!]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:58:32 PM
IP: 1cust47.tnt1.det3.da.uu.net

Firestorm> I just voted, but it will come in at an @home address, becuase of the computer I'm using, just so you'll knwo when you get the e-mail about it.
Green Baron
Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:25:41 PM
IP: proxy1-external.elmwd1.la.home.com

ARRRGGHHH!!! If I had time, there would be a really nasty DC death to begin the post, but I don't have much time online.

ATTENTION TGS STAFF: I have been unable to get to Breakdowns for an entire week because of the following:

1) Internet crash at work
2) Mom's wedding (which went off without a hitch last night)
3) The fact that my ISP can't seem to find the Egroups web site - and I switched my subscription to web only, so that's the only way I can read messages.

Don't think I've vanished - I just can't get on. Anyway, Mom needs the phone, so that's all, I have to get off again...

**Mandi runs out**

Mandolin - [weird_web@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:44:55 PM
IP: pm35-80-237.iximd.com

Patrick > ::I can't imagine some real life version of "The Running Man" can be too far into the future.:: You're more right than you know ... I heard on the radio this morning that there's a new show in the works that will send the contestant around the country on errands "while trying to avoid detection." Throw in people trying to kill each other, and hey, that IS "Running Man!" (the book version, I mean, not the ghastly Arnie flick which had as its only shining moment the casting choice of Richard Dawson ... though I admit I personally would have loved to see a female 'hunter' played by Vanna White ...).

Jurassic Park 3 > haven't heard anything about a new Crichton book (since Timeline; read that one by the way, it's pretty cool for those with an interest in quantum mechanics and/or 14th-century France <g>). But it seems to me they've already got room for a sequel ... I don't think the T. Rex killed the crew of that ship. I think there were stowaway raptors on board (a plot from the first book that never made it to the screen). Because consider ... the crew was described as "all over" but there was little structural damage to the ship, and some of the crew were in places one would suspect a Rex might have trouble reaching. Besides, how did the guy holding the door release get his arm severed _after_ locking the Rex in the hold? Raptors, I'm telling ya ... they were hiding on board, and escaped into San Diego when everyone was busy worrying about the rampaging T. Rex. Go, raptors!!! (three guesses what my fave dino is!).

SJ > I agree with you on 'Dinosaur,' but as one of those people who like Wallace and Gromit, must sadly disagree about Chicken Run. We all enjoyed it greatly and thought it had a lot going for it.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:39:41 PM
IP: 16-178.009.popsite.net

****TGS SPOILERS****

Return to Paradise Part Two: Good season finale. I enjoyed the battle sequence immensely. I thought that the scene with Harthoth at the end was a nice touch as it allowed us a glimpse of what he is really like. The illustrations were wonderfully done.

****END SPOILERS****

Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, June 29, 2000 07:18:36 PM
IP: dial-167.ocis.net

FireStorm> I just tried to vote and I got this error message: "Netscape's network connection was refused by the server. The server may not be accepting connections or may be busy. Try connecting again later." I got this message every time I pressed [Submit] which was every 15 minutes for an hour. To vote, may I send an e-mail instead?
Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Thursday, June 29, 2000 06:25:27 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Alright, I have completely updated the archive, which by the way, ended up being slightly smaller than the saved version of this room I used.

I had a darn wasp sting me in my back this morning. Now, if only the stinging would completely disappear when I stand for a while.

Call me a gardener. Yesterday, I bought 3 Jalepeno pepper plants and 3 permento pepper plants. Too bad, I could not find tomato plants or bell pepper plants. I like Jalepeno peppers in my cornbread and hushpuppies from time to time. I like my other peppers for macroni tuna casserole. I guess I am more 3 dimensional than some people thought.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 06:00:02 PM
IP: max1-46.cwy.cei.net

*Warpmind slinks in for a brief moment.*

Emambu: So, your first name is Erik, is it? You boast your Scadian herit... uh, Scandinavian heritage proudly? Good for you; I *am* a Scandinavian (only Norwegian poster I know of, and only Norwegian Fandom member... which really is a pity). RL name's Marius, which is originally Latin... kinda amusing, no?

Shadowrider: The seat thing is, according to my engineers, difficult, but it appears they can turn the single seat into a double seat, and provided you weigh no more than, oh, 185 kilos altogether, you should be able to fit in, provided you huddle together. As for the possibility of a reclinable seat, well... we can do as good as 53 degrees, no lower, because face it, you don't want to stick your head into the machinery, right? Oh, and removing the ashtray is no problem; it is only an extra accessory anyway. I think the condom dispenser might be more appropriate, no? ;)

Fire Storm: If you can pull off that pic, I'm interested. E-mail me with it when done, okay? :)

Well, Mortal Kombat is on TV; gotta run. See ya.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, June 29, 2000 05:11:43 PM
IP: mp-217-202-121.daxnet.no

Warpmind: No picture for the Tie Predator? A shame really... and I have this VERY nice and VERY hackable Tie Defender 3d file. I SUPPOSE if I cloned a wing and made them in a X form... it would only take a few minutes...
Think it's worth it? :)

I also have a nice Tie-Xwing (I kid thee not). Low milage, only used by a nice little Jedi who only used it to go back and forth from his home to his Jedi Master on Daegoba. A steal at only $250,000 imperial credits! :)

Cyborg: <Am I too late for picture voting?>
Nope! We are going to continue to take votes until we get back from vacation! (Second week of July)
Although, if we get less than 20 people voting, we may just decide on the CR pics ourselves. (So far there have been 7 people voting. :(
AOL USERS: READ THE FAQ!

Fire Storm - [<--- Yes, you can still vote here!]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 05:02:23 PM
IP: host157.64-31-6.bignet.net

*What first appears to be a stranger enters, then one or two residents of the room recognise the face as Cyborg's* Well, I am really behind on my TGS. I have just finished scanning this week's room, but I have missed the past three episodes and some passed weeks rooms. Lately my life has been wake up, go to the hospital to see Father, go home, collapse from exhaustion in bed. Anyway, here are my replies for this week.

Brooklyn> Did you ever get my e-mail (the comments on "No Where To Hide")? I received a really weird error message when I sent it. Please send me part 2 (I see Winterwolf asking for it), I want to see if my predictions were right and I just can't wait.

Speaking of e-mail> If anyone wants to contact me, e-mail is a better bet than the room lately. That is easier to check as it is generally empty, whereas this room fills very quickly, Real Life is bothering me.

FireStorm> Am I too late for picture voting?

Caliope> You are not short. In RL I am just short of 5'2", now that is short!

Abandoning kids> I have to agree with Sevarius Jr. on this one. Some of us want kids but may not be able to have them at all, then someone like that mom who just abandoned three of them shows up in the news, it is just so depressing.

Junk on T.V.> I once read a story called "The Man Who Murdered Television" (Joseph Patrouch, 1976). It concerns a conspiracy to put only really bad programing on T.V., only produce really bad movies, and to ruin the good quality stuff already out. It is really well done. Look it up if you can, I highly recommend all stories in the anthology. ("TV:2000", Fawcett Crest Books, 1982. Edited by Asimov, Waugh, and Greenberg) <--Not in MLA format ;)

Can someone set me straight on something please? For some odd reason I was under the impression that the first two seasons of "Gargoyles" was produced by Paramount, and when it was so successfull, Disney bought up the rights to it. Why have I been thinking this?

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Thursday, June 29, 2000 04:27:56 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

<Shadowrider enters directly at full speed on his bike. He stops by making an acrobatic skidding braking, but inadvertisely he fully hits Mr. DC in the process. DC falls with a broken leg, screaming for pain.>
"Oh, sorry, DC, I've not seen you...<takes out a shotgun>...but I have something that will stop your pain...just a moment...<Shoots DC straight in the head>...still aching, you say? Another one then..."<shoots him another time>

Niamhgold:> No prob. I posted the translation of "Kingdom of Blinds" last Sunday. It is in last week's CR, it's my last post, you should find it easily, there's my usual picture of Sata...Oh, BTW, my friend's name is Nicola, not Nicolai...:). I think it is a good poem, but my translation doesn't make it totally justice...

Mecord:> Working hard: Beware that all that money does not kill you...;)

Winterwolf:> Well, I've been already called, and my leaving is just delayed for now...so they are not supposed to give me too much warning. A few days, probably. If I don't receive news until the 17th of July, I have to go to the Military District to ask for infos...and in the meantime, I asked to my uncle in the Ministry of Defense to try finding some news...(what is usually called "Italian Shortcut"...)
Ceramic turtle image: I found it beautiful, and you?

Warpmind:> Why do I need that TIE? <smiles innocently> Oh...nothing particular...just have a little ride...about the accessories...well...the ashtray can be removed, I don't need it...any chance of installing a second seat? Reclinable, possibly? ;)

Emambu:> You're welcome. Thank you for the name explanation. So, your family comes from Italy, isn't it? At least part of your family. Good to know. Paestum and Capri? My family comes from the same zone (at least as I know...I admit I have no precise info about if before this century...).
My nickname? It's nothing special...Shadow is the translation of my Italian nickname (Ombra), and rider...because I am a very fond biker, and if I have to go anywhere, I go riding my motorbike...
Don't worry, your reply was not long at all...I've written some awfully longer...;)

Still haven't read Timedancer...going to do it now.

Gotta go! See you all later.

<Shadowrider turns on engine and skids away>

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Thursday, June 29, 2000 03:08:49 PM
IP: h213-18-41.mi2.albacom.net

*Emambu walks in munching on a few caramels. Only ten pounds to go. Hopefully, some of you will help me out here. :)*

First off, I just want to say hello to Tony and Knoxville. Hopefully, you'll stick around and post some more

Shadowrider and Caliope: Thanks for the welcome back. BTW, Mambu is my real last name. It's shortened Italian (My great-grandparents were told to shorten it when they arrived into Boston in the early 20th century). I can say my full last name, but I don't know how to spell it correctly- it may be Mambucchio- I don't know. Actually, I learned a lot about my family history the last time I was in Italy (like I can trace my line back to Capri and Paestum (sp) during the 1500's). The "E" is just the first letter of my first name "Erik" (which betrays my Scandanavian roots as well), so I just combined it. I know, this was a much longer answer then you were looking for, sorry. :) Actually, I'm curious as to how you two picked your nicknames.

Wilek: Thanks for the welcome back!

Janine: Glad to hear you're feeling better.

Niamhgold: Thanks! I guess it'll be up to you then to educate those who think they're merely glorified rainspouts. :)

Brooklyn: Putting up the episodes is a good idea, IMHO, but I do share the concern that you might run into legal trouble trying to do it. Still, if there's no trouble, then go for it. I'd like to see some of the older episodes.

Winterwolf: (Gargoyles) Wow, that's pretty cool. I'm the same way basically. At first, I find it really hard to talk to someone I don't know. After that though, it's pretty easy and I end up babbling on and on and on and on and on...

Kitainia: Thanks! I found the whole experience interesting, not in the fact that I was talking about Gargoyles while standing in line to get a hot dog, but in the fact that practically the whole line was listening in on the conversation and some were even nodding their heads in agreement whenever we brought up tolerance, or family unity, or any of the life lessons that the show tried to instill. That was what I found interesting (again, in a good way).

Mecord: I sympathize with you. Eleven hours can be brutal. I pulled a thirteen hour work day a few nights ago. By the end, I was not in a good mood and I almost snapped at one person (almost though, I was still nice on the outside even though I wanted to throttle him for his stupidity on the inside).

Rodlox: Welcome back, and thanks for letting me know. I'll e-mail you my comments before the weekend.

Kyryn: My condolences to your loss. My great uncle died a few nights ago from a massive heart attack. I'm heading up to Danville, PA this weekend for the funeral.

Taleweaver: That's a very sad statement, but the problem is that it tends to be true.

Interesting string of events happened recently. I knew for a while now that I'd be heading down to Orlando for some relaxation and to hang out with my cousin. I realize I just came back from a vacation but I had been invited down there by my cousin, so it wasn't a planned vacation by me. Anyway, it just occured to me yesterday that the dates I'm down there are the same dates that you guys will be having your Gathering 2000. No, I don't plan on crashing your fun (I won't have time anyway). I just thought it was a cool coicidence. Who knows, Maybe I'll run into your group. Also, While I'm down there, I'm going to be meeting with some Disney executives that my cousin is friends with. I'd ask for advice on how to treat them, but I'm afraid SJ might tell me to bring a taser and use it as liberally and as frequentely as possible. :)


---Emambu

Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Thursday, June 29, 2000 02:13:54 PM
IP: spider-we082.proxy.aol.com

*Warpmind hops in through the window, burnt, singed and generally in bad shape.*
Well, my mother learned of my appreciation of good tobacco today... and it wasn't even such a horrendous blast as I feared. No more than a 3.5 Richter, I'd estimate... Oh, well, I was lucky she was in a good mood today, I guess...

Shadowrider: Borrow a TIE Predator this Saturday? Hmmm... what for? Some of the parts are still undergoing tests, but it's possible, depending on your intent... oh, and I'll need to know what kinds of accessories you want. ;)

Spike: Did I hear the words "TGS art for sale"? Atta girl! Go auction those babies off! :) (Preferrably at the Amazon.com auctions, as I have no intentions of opening an Ebay account any time soon...) I know I'd probably bid on the Asrial/Thersites/Barrel scene from Dark Ages... :)

Niamhgold: Fear of beetles? Never heard of it, but I suspect this friend of yours is not the person you'd take to watch "Mimic"... ;)

Mec: Appreciate the lowdown. RP will follow... later. :)

Sorow: One picture of you in medieval dress, surrounded by gargoyles? Um, are we talking the stone type, the plushie type, the framed type, or the kind we all know and love? ;) This picture I gotta see. :)

Winterwolf: Yes, DC's only listed eight times... but, the list has a built-in respawn-function, so each time certain names are scratched out, they reappear on the bottom of the list. DC is one of those names... ]:)

Archwolf: Yeah, the Predator is a magnificent one-man spacefighter, and it's even got its own atmospheric cabin with gravity equalizer... I kinda like it. Oh, and if you want access to some of the technology involved (hyperdrive upgrade, improved targeting computers, etc.) to improve on your X-Wing, feel free to ask. We got some surplus pieces; we planned on building a dozen, but we only had the hull materials for ten. :| Oh, and pardon my ignorance, but whowhat is Kyp Duron? (And for that matter, where can I acquire information about these Vong?)

This Tribble stuff confuses me... what's a tribble, anyway?

Well, I gotta scram. No time for RP today; maybe tomorrow.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, June 29, 2000 01:13:46 PM
IP: mp-217-204-26.daxnet.no

Crashes into the CR

Re:Tribbles...Hilarious

Elian in Cuba, hmm now that he is Cuba is it a smart choice for Janet Reno to travel to Florida?

Peta again...now they are planning on something called Unhappy meals....are they planning on traumatizing kids again?

A game show like the Runningman...they should do this, except all the Runners would be PETA and NAMBLA members

********TDS Spoilers******Teturn to Paradise pt2************

Ok that Explains how Payne survived the Volcano, and we got a big kick butt battle between Payne and Brooklyn with Sata
I think Isaac Payne is an interesting character and hope to see him again. Its like seeing Anton Sevarius on Gargoyles or Ethan Rayne on Buffy...And Ari-chan and Graeme-kun being born...nice to see how they resolved that, but I would also like to see a resolution between Angela and Gwen
******************End TDS comments*********************

Dont have class on upcoming Tuesday...due to obvious reasons of course, but I'm really getting into this Neuromancer novel. Gibson is a good writer and I hope there will be another X-Files episdoe with his name on it.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:31:48 PM
IP: user-37kap2k.dialup.mindspring.com

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, in that last BFTS RP post, did you mean "technology and science" or "science and magic" or "technology and magic"?
**END RP RELATED**

**TD SPOILERS**
Why does not Lexington show up as a real gargoyle? The other big question is I do not recall Brooklyn keeping a journal of his travels. Am I to assume at some point in the past, Brooklyn recounted some (if not most or all) of his life story for someone. That is what makes Timedancer stories interesting, there are tied directly together.
**END TD SPOILERS**

**PARENT RANT**
Sheesh. I am having been taking temp work while I look for the job I want. I have been selective because I do not go to work where I will feel out of place. All of this does not make sense to the idiot. Sheesh, I am smarter than my dad, and I do not feel I can explain it to him. Is anyone else out there smarter than his/her parent(s)? It is driving me nuts.
**END PARENT RANT**

**BFTS RP continues**
Plastique Saber wakes up and sees DPH is awake.

"DPH, is it ok if I call to check on SuperSpeed?" asked Plastique.

"Sure, but I need to talk to her when you finish. Feel free to call her whenever you think you need to." replies DPH.

Plastique heads over to a phone and calls her home, where SuperSpeed is. They talk for a few minutes and then Plastique calls DPH in to talk to SuperSpeed. DPH and SuperSpeed talk for a while and DPH hangs up the phone.

"Well, what did you and SuperSpeed talk about?" asked Plastique.

"She agreed to help us, indirectly. If we can get a 3rd person who knows magic to help me with a spell, I can fully transfer Connect's powers to Jason with the ring being used only to turn the powers on and turn the powers off." said DPH.
**END BFTS RP for now**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:10:41 AM
IP: max1-30.cwy.cei.net

Howdy people, long time no?

I've heard a lot of people wonder about what's wrong with Hollywood and all the trash that's on TV. Allow me to submit my opinon. The whimsical side of me believes that the really creative people have left Hollywood to do more fulfilling things with their lives, leaving the boot-licking sychophants to come up with ideas. That or the executives in Tinsle Town made a deal with some minor demon and Y2K was when payment was due.

The pontificator in me belives it lies more along the lines that companies are looking more for franchises than individual products. I realized it watching Disney's version of Hercules. It isn't just about the movie. It's about all the stuff that goes along with it. The merchandising, the happy meals, Sony Playstation game and the PC-CD ROM Activity Center. Does anyone remember when merchandising meant having a lunch box with the movie or TV show on it? (I had a Transformer lunch box and was happy as a clam at high tide) It's about profits. Even a bomb of a movie will make 3 or 4 million dollars on its opening. Most movies make back the money spent, but they want to see 500% and up in returns. Television is just as bad, but not as clever. TV has been devoid of originality for a while, shows like Survivor and Who wants to be a Millionaire are imports from abroad. But they're looking for a franchise as well. Something to be talked about, argued over.

Will it change? Probably not. We, as Americans, spend a good portion of our day and good chuck of our income to be entertained. Since movies and TV have a lock on certain audience and make a substantial profit, they continue to crank out junk until something better comes along.

Like I said this is from the pontificator in me.
See ya

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:52:22 AM
IP: 134.71.36.125

*skips on it*

Hellos :)

Mecord> Wow thanx! Thats real nice of you! Now I just need a bumper to put it on...and a car to go with that bumper would be nice! ;) Little by little, no? :P

Gside> <<being able to get comfortable in standardized seating>> well...true I guess :P Randy Newman? I have no clue:P Who is he?

Female Brooklyn> *brothers* Your so right! They are pains! And I only have ONE official bro (about 3 or 4 non official :P) So I feel where your coming from! :P

Sevarious Jr> Jurassic Park 3? Do you know if Critchton wrote the book for it?

Kitainia> lol, yeah it was fun for me, a little stresfull at time, to have the responsibility of some one esle's kid out of your familly, but I had fun in general:)

Winterwolf> << I imagine you have a good chance of fitting into on of those children's rides.>> LOL Ok, right, I can just see me on the wirly planes now! :P And I know your weren trying to show off, I was just playin' with ya! :P

Well must be going! Places too go, ppl to pay rent to! :P
Bye all! *HUGZ all and skips on out*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 09:49:30 AM
IP: 136.145.70.210

Okay, here's my contribution...

* <-- tribble _ <-- tribble after meeting Godzilla

Elain goes home > About damn time. Now the only annoying perpetual "news" story left that needs to end is the ongoing "Survivor" saga. What is it with these game shows just recently anyway? I think the next logical step will be to combine them... "Who Wants to be a Survivor." You're trapped on an island with nine other annoying people, and BBQ rat is the only thing to eat. To get off, you have to sucessfully answer 15 questions of increasing difficulty. The winner gets to go home. The losers get to fight it out for the single BBQ rat each night on prime-time TV. Host: Regis Philbin (okay, make that TEN annoying people).

Please... what's next? I can't imagine some real life version of "The Running Man" can be too far into the future. Especially if George "Dubbya" "Fry 'em now, ask questions later" Bush becomes our next President. :P

:: reads "Planet of the Apes" comments ::

I'm beginning to wonder what it is with Hollywood the past few years that 90% of the stuff they throw at us anymore are either 1) sequels to 20 year old films featuring reprisals of the characters by stars way past their prime, 2) bad adaptations of comic books and/or sci-fi novels, or 3) bad remakes of films that were cheezy to begin with.

Heck, I say if you're gonna remake "Apes," let Charlton Heston reprise the role... "Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty apes! You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hand!"

:: scurries off ::

Patrick Toman
Thursday, June 29, 2000 07:03:12 AM
IP: ac8bb7be.ipt.aol.com

Janine> Tribbles> Nice. :) Here are a few more:
* <-tribble }}* <-Klingon tribble
* <-tribble . <-naked tribble
* <-tribble ~@*@~ <-Pretty Tribble Sailor Moon
* <-tribble +=* <-Pope Tribble I
* <-tribble ~^*^ <-tribblegoyle ~^*>^ <-beaked tribblegoyle
* <-tribble o*o <-tribble with glasses
* <-tribble M* <-Tribble Krueger
* <-tribble (*<| <-Tribble Vader
* <-tribble --=--* <-Tribble Maul
* <-tribble (*) <-Tribble Sidious
* <-tribble 8*>~ <-Jar Jar Tribble
* <-tribble *)- <-Quake logo with a tribble in it
* <-tribble *)= <-Quake II logo with a tribble in it
* <-tribble (***)=< <-xenotribble
* <-tribble ]:=8D * <-dragon about to eat tribble
* <-tribble
 ***
***** <-tribble with an overactive pituitary gland
 ***

And I apologize for taking up so much space with such pointless silliness. ;) Real post sometime in the near future, and I promise it will make up for this...

Wilek Tribbulus
Thursday, June 29, 2000 05:41:09 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Kyryn> Condolences for the loss of family.

Randomness: Just what does it mean when it smells like a skunk, and they are doing roadwork right at the entrance to the local mental institute? (this actually happened today, on my commute to Rutgers)

Mecord> <<Mu (I never know how to spell these names)>>: That's good, but if you're going to be accurate, it looks like a u with a off the left.

SOROW> <<But my band doesn't even watch the drum major when they play!>>: The eternal problem. Usually we were warned before tempo funkiness.
<<I used to be in band for three years before I moved to drill team>>: Just a guess here, but pic? Probaly not, but if so, what?

Archwolf> Wishes for a better time at work, and fast healing for the knees.
<<Paul Gross>Ride Forever>>: Got it. Coming up sometime. "I'll show you tears they're all over this ground/They're falling from these blue Alberta skies."

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, June 29, 2000 03:38:13 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hey all. How is the evening going? Well I'm online if anyone wants to chat. I'm really bored and Tannon wants to cut a tree down with a herring(sp?).

<Tannon: No I DON'T!!!! I want to walk like an Egyptian!>

He is a strange person! Any way, I haven't applied for that job yet it might happen on Friday...*HOPE...HOPE*

My rents really don't trust me. I have Tannon over it is 11:00 pm amd they went to bed about 15 minutes ago. It is most humorous. Any way I'm going to go watch a movie or something but I'll keep the internet on.

Winterwolf> Where are you? I need someone to chat with! No one else is online:( Any who I'll be on tomorrow. Hope to see you.

* <- Tribble %$@& <- tribbles after using a macintosh
* <- tribble @*@ <- Ferengi Tribble
* <- tribble ~-* <- Tribble after a _good_ workout
* <- tribble # <- tribble after borg assimilation
* <- tribble */ \* <- tribbles fencing
* <- tribble *^ <- tribble mountain climber at peak
* <- tribble @ <- Tri(m)bble weed
* <- tribble O= <- Enterprise *= <- giant tribble eating enterprise
* <- tribble }*{ <- Vulcan Tribble

Sorry, never give a little boy a key board to play with. See Ya Later Aligators!
(J.R.)

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa, Az
Thursday, June 29, 2000 02:23:12 AM
IP: phx-205.treknet.net

Sure, post the new ep while I am writing my post...ignore the part about waiting for the new ep.
Archwolf
Thursday, June 29, 2000 01:28:50 AM
IP: pumpkin-b-08.mcmurray.nb.net

*Archwolf just kinda appears*
Hey all.

Get this. Tonight at work, the girl I have been partnered with for the last two weeks gets called into the day-shift supervisor's office and gets chewed out for mistakes I made. So I went into the office when she came out almost crying, and told the b*tch who yelled at her that they were indeed my errors. You know what she said? "Stop trying to be noble." Noble? Not in this situation, I'm not. I own up to my mistakes and I hate it when others get blamed for them, just as i hate getting blamed for the mistakes others make. Later, I was carying two 50lb boxes of rings, and fumbled them both, and fell and cracked my knees. It was not the best night at work.

WinterWolf><ShadowRider Party> I'll supply the dancers.

Warpmind>Very nice specs. And I hear ya about being designed to take out those you hate. XT-65 (temporarily named NovaSabre) was built to take the hurt to the Vong (New Jedi Order) and to eventually vape Kyp Duron.

Movie News>Cameron WILL produce the Aliens V Preditors movie...IF he can get Harrison Ford in the main role...which was originally written as a 5'3" Japanese woman. I don't think Harrison can pull THAT one off.

Kyryn>Condolences on the loss of a relative.

JacKal>Wow...if you need an ear to bend, sometimes us strangers are good people to talk to.

LIfe Soundtrack>Lots of stuff by lots of individuals and groups. Specifically>Metalica: Wolf and Man, Unforgiven, Fade to Black, Lowman's lyric, Mamma Said. Paul Gross>Ride Forever. Queen>Who Wants to live forever (instumental), Another One Bites the Dust. Lots of others.

well, that should about wrap it up. I'm just gonna sit back and wait for the new TD ep for a bit. Hey, do we get to see what happens to Lex tonight? I've always empathised with the little guy.

**RP**
Loaction: Unknown.
ShadowWolf stood in front of Thailog. "They split up. I couldn't follow the elf, but WinterBlade said she was going to help in the fight against the 10." Thailog took this in and nodded. "Good. I want you to get up to the Avatar and help the Ravens." ShadowWolf blinked and reamed his ear with his pinked. "Eh? Hows that?" "I said, get up there and help them. Not too much, but do what you can to make sure that they are victorious. Of course, if some of them are removed during the fight, I have no problem with that." ShadowWolf didn't know what the cloned gargoyle was thinkging, but then, he didn't get paid to know. He got paid to do. Acutally, he didn't get paid at all, but he was not in any hury to bring that the gargoyle's attention. He would get what he was owed, soon enough. Without further delay, ShadowWolf stepped into the umbran and began the journey upto the avatar. Thailog looked at the spot the werewolf had just occupied. "And I also have no problems if _you_ are conveniently lost during the battle, either."

**End RP**


Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 01:27:53 AM
IP: pumpkin-b-08.mcmurray.nb.net

****Kyryn steps in****

Gentlebeings, we now present to you

Return to Paradise, Pt. II

Written by Robby Bevard, Alan "Ordell" Coleman, with contributions by Stephen Sobotka, Jr.

Artwork by Robby Bevard.

***Kyryn steps aside to avoide the rush***

Kyryn - [<<--clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Thursday, June 29, 2000 01:22:23 AM
IP: denm1-43.iglobal.net

**Winterwolf enters the CR with a big smile.**

Thanks to all the wonderful friends that sent me email today! It made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! :)
On the video stuff it looks like Real and QuickTime all the way. A big thanks to Gside and Niamhgold for the input. If anyone wants to toss in his or her two cents I'd be happy to hear you out.

Please Gasper we what you to continue to post here. Speaking just for myself, I would like you to continue to post here. I understand you are upset with the way things turned out. There are other RPs or you can make your own if you still want to RP. Even if RP were out, I would like to hear your opinions and catch you in the CR. You are welcome anytime by me.

Kitainia> <Shadowrider party> Once Shadowrider knows I'll be sure to make a big announcement. It is very nice that he hasn't had to go yet! Maybe we'll get lucky and he wont need to leave then we can have a so you are staying with us party! ;) <test grade> I know you'll do better next time. It is just upsetting that you couldn't get the good grade that you deserved! The fact that you know the material is the most important thing but grades are necessary to help you advance. <The world when make more sense when I wake up> That made perfect sense. The second one confused me. **kidding** ;)

Jackal> I can only hope the wee one becomes a blessing to you and your family. I wish for better times in your future.

Warpmind> <DC listed 8 times> Only eight times? ;)

Kyryn> Happy and sad times: Good to hear you had a good time visiting relatives and condolences on your loss of another.

Shadowrider> <No news on military service> So is no news good news? How much advanced warning do they need to give to you? I'm just happy you are still with us. Hey you got to see the turtle after all! ;)

Spike> <TGS art for sale> I think it would be worthwhile. I remember liking your artwork quite a bit!

Janine> <job> Good luck! I've crossed all my fingers for you, making typing difficult to say the least! <online> I'm so lucky I caught you earlier! I'm happy to catch friends online. ^_^

Niamhgold> <acrophobia> No way! I'm also scared of heights! I've been getting better though. Most rides are too fast for me to register my fear of heights. The Really Big Ferris Wheel is evil cause there is normally this long pause when you are at the very top and you can see the ground far far below you. I'll get on it but I'll look uncomfortable. <train riding and center of balance> Hot Cocoa will do that to you. It helps you find your center of balance so you don't burn yourself. ;) <train> That is when I read all the fanfic I print out. Once I finish the next two fanfics I'll have read all of your fan fiction. <email> I feel so loved! You are the best! ^_^

Brooklyn> I got the second episode. I'll give you a full update in email. :)

Rodlox> Welcome back! Good to see you again!

SOROW> I bet those pictures will be totally awesome!! SOROW in the middle of the medieval world, I bet it will look great! ^_^

Mary Flanders> Thanks for the pic! Akane sure does look cute there.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

DPH replies. "Well for one thing I'm not as young as I appear. I have a spell that I can use to reverse the physical age of a body or heal wounds."

Winterwolf smirks. "At least you have a choice in the matter. These bracers do more than freeze or cool things. I've had these bracers for more years than I care to count. They prevent me from aging. They also transformed me into this wolf form. I used to be a human. I think I used to look like my human illusion but I don't remember. Now for the rest of my life I'm Winterwolf."

After a brief pause Winterwolf continues, "The other magic trinkets I am holding for my lord. I know what some of them do but not all of them." Winterwolf saw DPH's eyes resting on the pouch where Equus was imprisoned in the small figurine. "You want to know about this pouch I gather?"

"Yes, but first tell me more about this lord."

"I have taken an oath that forbids me from saying anything more about my lord. It is enough that you know I have one."

DPH disappointed asks. "I guess I will respect this for now. What about the contents of that pouch I noticed magic flowing into it."

Winterwolf changed the subject temporarily and posed his own question. "Tell me more about yourself first. I know about the lightning, the reverse aging and the healing abilities. What else can you do?"

DPH considered it for a moment then responded. "I know you worked with Jason on mental discipline. I have a setup in the basement that can amplify my mental technique up to ten times. It is a mix of technology and science."

"Maybe you could show it to me later. I can mentally project myself into the thoughts of those nearby. I can also draw them into my own thoughts. I used it to communicate with you when I needed to know where to find you. It is a spell along with the illusion spell that I've had for some time now."

"Do these spells come from you lord?" DPH surmised.

"Yes."

"What more can you tell me about this lord?"

"I will not break my word." Winterwolf states firmly.

"Tell me about the pouch then."

"This pouch holds the greatest item of power. It stores energy and fuels all my magic items. I'm afraid I can't show it to you as it would drain you of all your magical powers possibly your life as well."

DPH didn't believe he heard the whole truth but was satisfied for now. He wondered if he should volunteer a little more info to get some more in return. After thinking it over he decides to wait for another time.

Everyone works on different areas of the house fixing as much of the damage as possible. After a long day each one claims a room and goes to sleep for the night.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Good night! Sweet dreams to all my CR friends!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:31:50 AM
IP: 1cust225.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net

***BEGIN RP***
GigaMantis rushed at Four, his scythe blades extended. With lightining quickness, he swiped at her head, but the alien warrior ducked in time to avoid a swift decapitation. A few stray hairs on her head, however, were sacrificed.
She aimed a kick at the insect demon's midsection which glanced off his chitinous thorax. Mantis shrieked shrilly, and attempted to bite Four's head with his large mandibles. Four moved out of the way, and flipped over the demon, grabbing its antennae as she did. She landed on her feet, and yanked hard, pulling the demon over her back by its antennae and tossing him several feet away. Gigamantis squealed and quickly attempted to right himself.
Four smiled, but her amusement was short-lived as she was knocked to the ground by a tremendous blow from Belzelk's flail. He stood over her, swinging his weapon in front of her calmly. "We can keep playin' in the sandbox, or we can graduate to the adult stuff," he taunted.
Four laughed briefly, then disappeared. Belzelk looked around, puzzled. Four abruptly appeared above him, and drove her heels straight into the demon's skull. The green demon grunted, and fell flat on his back. Gigamantis was there to support him, however, as he delivered a viscious kick to Four, sending the alien away from his fighting partner. Belzelk groggily stumbled to his feet, and shook his massive head. "I'm gettin' slightly peeved, Gig."
The insect demon chittered a commiseration.
Belzelk held up his flail, and focused his attention on it. His eyes flashed red, and his hands began to glow. Soon, his ball and chain began to glow as well, the metal throbbing with energy. He swung it slowly, and stared right at Four, who stood waiting a few dozen yards away. "This keeps up, I'm gonna have to really get angry." Then with a roar, he launched his flail at Four again...
***END RP***

Whoo....relaxing night tonight. Just kickin' back, playing some video games, and watching "Survivor" on CBS. Damn that show's addictive. Anybody else watch the show? My personal fave is Big Gay Richard. I'm pullin' for ya, Rich! Of course, Big Gay Richard is the "castaway" who got arrested for smacking his kid around....but hell, he's fun on the show!

First off....I would like to send a personal little message to the dearly departed little Elian Gonzalez...or as I like to call him, the STUPIDEST BOY IN THE WORLD.
Well, you happy now? Smart move, kid! You had it all! The attention, the fame, the benefit of being America's sweetheart! But you screwed up! You just had to bring in that father of yours, Speedy, didn't you? Well have fun in Communist land, kid! Did you like all that candy you ate? Hmm? Well, you're gonna find out where it all comes from, cause you'll be spending the rest of the summer sweating it out by working in a sugar cane field, harvesting all that luscious sugar to make sweets for all the good little boys and girls who appreciate the freedom found in the greatest country EVER, Los Estados Unidos! Did you enjoy playing that Sony Playstation? Well, I hope you did, cause from now on somebody's just gonna hand you a stick and you'll have to pretend it's nice, shiny new bike! Enjoy your daily indoctrinations! You'll be looking around, and saying to yourself, "Where are all the mansions? Where are the toys, the candy, the adoring public?" They'll be here, in FREE America, the place you could be living in if you just had kept that big mouth of yours shut and appreciated it!!! Just remember, dear Elian--"Castro" is a word that means "uncle who touches in an improper place".
And that goes for all foreign celebrities! Ricky Martin, you have a problem with the USA? You can shake your bon bon back to Puerto Rico! Patrick Stewart, you wanna bitch about America? You can go back to England any time, baldy, and you'll see lots of smiling faces. They won't have TEETH, but they'll be smiling! And how dare YOU, William Shatner, you *Canadian*, how dare you complain about our airlines/groceries/telephone services, and claim to offer a better alternative through priceline.com! You can go back and freeze your tribbles off in the great white north! America--love it, or get your ass out of it!!!

Before any of you start hemorraghing, that was all a JOKE I heard...and a damn funny one at that...

Spider-Man Movie News: In the endless stream of rumors about the movie, the latest unsubstantiated report is that director Sam Raimi wants Ewan MacGregor to place Spider-Man. I could go into a diatribe about how colossally wrong such a decision would be, but I don't have to, cause Ewan will be filming Episode 2 at the same time Spidey will be filming, so it's highly unlikely he could star even if he wanted to.

Damn Dirty Apes: Not only is a Tim Burton remake of "The Planet of the Apes" a reality, but actor Mark Wahlberg has already been tapped to play the Charlton Heston part. That's right, it'll be Dirk Diggler telling the monkeys to get their damn paws off him.

***WARNING: DISNEY RANT***
It looks like the royal butt-screw that Disney gave Princess Mononoke is NOT over. They've found a new way in which to dick around with this modern day classic. They have announced that they will be releasing the DVD here in the states....but *without* the original Japanese track.
This may seem trivial to some, but any true fan of anime/manga knows that, most of the time, the original work is often better than the dubbed, or perhaps even subtitled version. It may seem like a small thing to some of you, but this is just another way in which Disney has screwed over this great film....I think it's just jealousy. Mononoke is so lightyears better than any of the crap Disney is putting out these days, they have to downplay it all by continually screwing things up with the movie. If you want to petition against this--and get the Mouse to put the original track on the DVD--click on over to nausicaa.net. They have an online petition going there.
***END RANT***

JackaL: Hey bro, do you need someone to talk to? You know, about what's going on? My email is always there. Drop me a line. I don't always have anything intelligent to say ;), but I do think I'm a rather good listener. I'd like to hear what's been going on with you, especially your family situation, and see if I can't offer any encouragement. I'm here if you want to talk, or just to vent. :)
As for A Perfect Circle, I suppose it's a judgement call as to whether they're good or not. I personally like their album. They do sort of remind me of NiN, which I consider my favorite band of all time. And I liked Maynard's work with Tool, so I suppose I'm biased. But I think the CD is good. It's fairly industrial, but it's mainly just dark, somber, and occasionally aggressive music. Which I'm into. ;]

Kitiana: Hey, you're a clerk at Tower? I used to have a friend who worked at a Tower store. It was always fun, cause I would usually hang with her through part of her shift. Towers are always cool stores, especially if you have the one that's the combo music/video/book store all in one. She'd give me discounts all the time. Don't know if that was exactly legal, but it did save me money. ;)
BTW, have you ever heard any of that NAMBLA propaganda? I believe that those @$$holes actually have a 1-800 number for "others like them". I say this because, if memory serves, I actually heard the voice-mail recording once on a local radio station, where the djs were calling the number to goof on it. It was this long message, directed to the caller, about how man-boy love is a wonderful thing, and don't feel ashamed about it because it's natural. They actually believe that the children want to have sex with them (which, in my belief, makes them the worst kind of sexual predator, the kind who thinks the victim actually wants/deserves the abuse). The message ended with "Be proud to be a boy-lover". It's the sickest, most disturbing thing I've probably ever heard. It's really horrifying in many ways. Personally, I think castration is too good for those guys. You're right, this is where free speech comes back to bite us on the behind, when sick perverts like these get to preach these beliefs.

Monster Rancher: I haven't watched much of this show, because I feel that it was the worst of the 3 Pokemon-type shows. But at least the main villain looked a bit imposing. "Moo", or whatever he called himself, at least looked nice and demonic.

Finally....and this is for the benefit of little Elian, who in reality did leave for Cuba today....I give you, from Maxim Magazine, some of the Top 50 Reasons We're Proud to be Americans!
Tonight's Reason #1: We're named after a pornographer.
America gets its name from low-ranking sailor Amerigo Vespucci, who managed to scam his name onto maps. His only real claim to fame during his time was being the first popular pornographer of the New World. His letters about his travels described in lewd detail the sex lives of Native Americans and become a natural bestseller back in Europe.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:21:26 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

*enters*

Hey. Just checking in (what am I in boarding school? ;P) and taking a break from writing a paper for my American Government class. (Yes, I have summer school. >:D) I was over at DnR/DnU and saw the some new pics at the Virtual Gallery. I found a pic I especially like. ^_^ Very well done pic of Akane. Thought you guys might want to have a look so I posted a link to it. What I like about this pic is that I can picture Ranma going from, "You are just SO uncute!" to "Hot Shit! When did Akane become such a babe?!". True he would never say the latter, but he might think it. ;)

Mary Flanders
Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:14:07 AM
IP: ramp-2-47.ucdavis.edu

I just had my senior pictures done today and I hope they're alright. I had one taken in my medieval dress with all my gargoyles around me, I kid you not. I think it's going to look awesome! Now I'm just waiting for the new ep to come up.

Gside> But my band doesn't even watch the drum major when they play! That's means that they screw up my music and I can't dance when the band is sucking more than their instruments. I may be harsh, but I can talk cause I used to be in band for three years before I moved to drill team.

Kit> I would have liked to work in a music store, but then I would be tempted to spend all my money where I work. That's bad.

SOROW
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:46:27 PM
IP: dll2a010-0339.splitrock.net

Hmm. Monster Rancher still has not tackled (directly at least) one issue in my mind: why bring Genki in the world? Moochi = Phoenix? That is about the only way to explain Genki's presence. By the way, when was the last new episodes of Monster Rancher released? I was curious because the story stops right before Genki & company get ready to take on GreyWolf and restarts from the start.

Finally, the BFTS RP archive is updated upto Sunday. It's a darn shame that right now the archive is bigger than this CR size.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:55:12 PM
IP: max1-31.cwy.cei.net


CAAW!

<<However, since your story's been out for so long I was wondering if you still wanted comments. It doesn't matter to me either way since>>

this is true for me and - as far as i know - everyone else here {right, guys?}...

CaAW!!

Comments Are Always Welcome!

thanks!!



Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail. com]
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:42:33 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Welcome back Rodlox, I was begining to wonder what happened to you.

One more thing I forgot to add about that Monster Rancher bit. If Ganky had to bring a CD from his world to bring back Mochi (the body of phoenix), then I think reason follows that Mu (I never know how to spell these names) should have a similar problem. Maybe we get an anti-ganky. A bad guy kid who's the next monster champ. But it turns out that unlocking the Cd is harder than a mystery disk and the kid goes after Ganky and the gang to find out how he did it with Mochi. Lots of other plot possibilities there. I dunno, what does everyone think?

Mec
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 09:38:25 PM
IP: usr57.mtwest.net

me back...reading and replying now....
Rodlox
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 08:22:48 PM
IP: cc391097-b.catv1.md.home.com

Thanks everyone for the congrats on the new niece. My sister did all the work :). Her name is to be Katherine Lorrain Katy for short. I will get to do auntie things the weekend of the 14th when she gets here for her dedication. I'm working on the robe right now. Knitted in a silk/wool lace weight yarn.

I'm ready to send a couple of the players to time out corners if they can't settle things in a civilized manner.

How are the car things going Coyote? Better I hope.

Kyryn give Okami our love and hugs. It must have been rough coming home to a funeral.

Auntie Starsinger

Starsinger
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 08:01:36 PM
IP: proxy-652.public.rwc.webtv.net

Whew! I thought the eleven hour was bad. Yesterday I had a four hour that involved nearly three hours vacuuming, followed by eight more hours of standing, walking, helping customers, putting a way merchandise and dealing with problems that no one in the store has ever seen before (I think they just make it up and hire someone to present these problems to the new guys). The knee was no worse off, I think it’s just over stressed, but then, it’s not any better either. Well, today it was only four hours and I can relax for a while. While I’m not supposed to have more than fourty hours, if I don’t find someone to fill in a couple of shifts I may have up to 52! I don’t mind, just means more money for me. :)

Gasper and Robby>> You are both my good friends and I hope we can continue to be so. Gasper I hope you don’t feel like you have to stay away, I for one enjoyed your company. You don’t have to be a part of the RP to be apart of this family, (looks at the werewolves, gargoyles, and other strange denizens) and I use the term loosely. :) Robby, I believe the next card to play is yours, I hope it works out well. You may even consider Gasper’s idea of using e-mail. At any rate, I hope you both find peaceful ground.

Monster Rancher>> Is it just me or is Mochi (sp?) the phoenix? Of course they added that nice little plot twist that the original mind is separated from the body so they still need to find the lost mind.

Which reminds me of something that came up in a recent conversation. If you ever look in a mirror and your bodies not there, then you know you’ve lost your head. :)

Warpmind>> <Could you please debrief me on our CR locations?> Um, your siting there and I’m siting over here…. Oh, you mean RP? :) Good question. I think we split up. Winterblade was preparing for the battle with the Ten, SJ’s soul is in limbo somewhere. Senthet, Bardic, and Mecord went to start a knew base. As for your character, we kind of left it open. You may have come with us, you could have gone with Winterblade, after SJ, after the demons in Atlanta, on assignment for the illuminati, or maybe you just decided you needed a vacation. It’s up to you where you turn up next.

Werewolves> Okay I rescind my previous statement. You can feed the werewolves anything you want… except for each other of course. Even if you tried there’s no promise they’ll actually eat him/her. And elves are definitely not on the menu. (Couldn’t resist Archwolf) ;)

Wilek>> <<music>><That's a relief; I thought I was the only one that happened to> Supposedly Mozart was that way as well as other great composers. Maybe we’re in the wrong business. But then I can also vividly recall scents, tastes, sights, and even feelings almost to the point where I can fool myself that their real. I forget sometimes others don’t have that kind of imagination. I think I’ll stick to writing stories as a creative outlet. A lot more descriptive sensory involvement.

*****RP*****
Location unknown.
“So the reason our magic is being sapped isn’t natural,” Mecord finished.
Bardic, Senthet, a few other dragons, and a handful of special guests sat around a newly furbished conference table at the newfound base of Magia’s Thieves Guild.
“That is what Dragon Mages indicate.”
“Okay, but how? It would take an incredible amount of power.”
At this Bardic looked uncomfortable and looked to the other dragons, who were all in human form for convenience. One of them nodded encouragingly.
“Well, the only way we know is by direct influence over the magical aura of Earth using the mastergem.”
“But the mastergem is not currently being used as anything but a centerpiece to our table here.”
All eyes turned to the basketball sized, blood red gem at the table’s center.
“The gems were originally from Earth. We thought them all destroyed but this one. Maybe we were mistaken.”
Mecord eyed the gem as well, “This does not bode well for our heroes.”

On the Avatar, Khesaat finds the dragons Dreg and Rynoz Towering over three more humans which he also knew to be dragons and two elves.
Approaching, Khesaat addresses the female dragon Rynoz, “The demons have most all been dealt with. The Ravens have gone to the control room to deal with the remaining two.”
“Good. We thank you for allowing us to aid in this battle, warrior. We will allow the Ravens the honor of this victory and return to Earth.”
Khesaat nodded then motioned to the injured elf, “Your friend is well?”
“Yes, we will leave as soon as she is able.”
When Khesaat left Dreg turned to his brother, Kreg, “Why can we not battle these last demons. They may be too powerful for the Ravens.”
Kreg answered, “Bardic has ordered us not to engage the Ten as of yet. One of the demons in that battle is Nine and Four fights on Earth.”
“But we are here to aid Earth, not let it be destroyed.”
“We have to know that Earth’s heroes are capable of dealing with Nine and Four. If the Ten are powerful enough to destroy Earth with just these two warriors, what happens if we end up leading them to Magia? Our own home is at risk here. Bardic is making plans to evacuate Earth to Hydorkele just in case the Ten are too powerful.”
“And we stand by and watch.”
“Only for now.”
*****End RP*****

Mecord
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 07:29:05 PM
IP: usr46.mtwest.net

G2K updates! A tentative schedule of events has been poted... click my name to visit the page where they can be found. Please note... I converted the pages from text tables to HTML, but I did not do the scheduling. If you've got questions or comments, please direct them to the G2K staff via the e-mail addys listed on the site!
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 07:28:57 PM
IP: ac9cd0e4.ipt.aol.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Hi, guys! I'm only in for a little bit today! (off to work tomorrow)!

Spike: TGS stuff for sale: With you, I don't think it matters where it comes from, 'cause I have a feeling that people will get so attached to your awesome work! And I'd bet that every single piece you bring will find a happy home with someone very grateful! :)

Janine: Glad your contacts are cooperating! (This from someone who once drove home w/ one seeing eye ;)

Shadowrider: A poem by a friend Nicolai? Aack, I think I must've missed it! Which post is it from? If it's as good as everyone's been saying it is, then he should kick some publisher's butt! >:} Got your e-mail and will respond as soon as possible!

Kit: I share your grief about the abandonment thing, and I thank you for your input :) Unfortunately, I doubt I'll ever find out more about it, because now it's being handled out-of-state (the family's from Rhode Island). I just hope those kids get a safe home with someone who's willing to care for them, and am also hoping that the mother gets whatever help/reprimanding she needs.

Gasper: I agree with Kit! You're welcome here, and I enjoy your presence in the CR. Please don't feel hurt!

Winterwolf: <Video format> I think I agree with Gside; I most normally opt for Real. Quicktime's good, also. <Cars and trains> Strangely, I've never ridden in a train before as a passenger. I've done charity events for children on trainrides before, but I was standing up and trying (sometimes unsuccessfully) to serve hot cocoa :) I think I found my center of balance that way :) As for amusement park rides...You probably _could_ get me on one, but with some persuasion. I'm afraid that I'm inhibited more by my fear of heights than anything else. But I do try and try everything once (Busch Gardens is a nice place to test my acrophobia!)
Glad the snow cloud made you feel better! Oh, yeah...check your e-mails!

Random question: My friend has been aggravating me lately with an intense fear of beetles (only beetles, not other insects--she'll pick up spiders). She refuses to go on a beach where she sees beetles, and refuses to go at all because people think she's weird. Now, I can set her mind at ease if I can convince her that it's a justified fear. Question is, what do you call a fear of beetles? Just beetles, and no other insects? Anyone an entymologist or psychologist here? :)

That about does it for today...
Adios!

Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 07:18:36 PM
IP: lac-flex147.ncia.net

Hello all. Well I almost back to being my usual happy chipper self. I'm registered for the fall semester. I don't know if I posted that yet or not but thats okay. My contacts are some what cooperating, they rarely do. But I can see out of them now! WOO HOO! I'm going to, hopefully, apply for a job today. Cross your fingers I get it.

Winterwolf> Any time! *:p* I don't know if I'll be on tonight or not. One of my friends wants to kiddnap me for the eve. But I will be online for a little while longer.

Gotta go. See you all later:)

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa, Az
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 07:04:25 PM
IP: phx-222.treknet.net

Okay, this is a little silly -- I'm going through my art morgue and picking out things to go to G2K. I've got three seasons worth of TGS illustrations. The question is: Would old TGS art be worth putting up for sale?
Spike
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 05:43:43 PM
IP: pppt17-235.ght.iadfw.net

It's been a strange day. But a bag of Starbursts makes it all better.

Kyryn> Hope the vacation was good, sorry to hear about Okami's grandmother, as well as the car.

(This was supposed to be part of the last post)

Coyote><<"Life is a Lemon (And I Want My Money Back)">> That's funny, one of my biggest complaints about my life is that it *doesn't* seem to be a lemon. (Or if it is, I never seem to get any of the lemon scenes) ;)

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 03:50:50 PM
IP: ppp-209.tnt-1.sat.smartworld.net

Still no news about my military service. I keep on waiting...

DPH:> A fish in the Mediterranean sea, big enough to swallow a human in one piece? <frowns> I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of such a fish...as far as I know, the most dangerous sea predator you can meet in the Mediterranean is the Verdesca, a variety of shark...but it is quite little, it is less than two meters long, and usually does not attack man.

Kitainia:> My friend Nicola thanks you, Winterwolf and Wilek for the compliments about his poem. He was very glad to know you liked it. To answer your comment...well, probably the industry here is as nuts as there, because Nicola has never been able to publish any of his works. He's won several litterature contests, a popular singer has read, under his permission, some of his pieces during a concert, and the poem I translated here (BTW, its title is "Kingdom of blinds" - in Italian, it creates a word joke between "Regno dei Ciechi" (Kingdom of Blinds) and "Regno dei Cieli" (Kingdom of Heavens)...) was used, always under his permission, in an issue of "Nathan Never"...but he never found any publisher. No one accepted to "run a risk" by publishing the works of an unknown poet...especially of one who writes such dark pieces...The morale of this story? I can't find it, never been good in finding the morale...
<<The world might make more sense when I wake up.>> Don't count on it...;)

Winterwolf:> Totally right! I experienced the same several times. <Keeping the center of the board> Yes, if you can control it, is is of great use...

Warpmind:> <reads through TIE predator specs> Wow! You said there are ten of those, huh? Would you mind borrowing me one for a few hours this Saturday night? (I promise I'll have the maximum care of it...it will have not even a scratch...;)

Ok, nothing more. See you for the next Timedancer!

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 02:17:56 PM
IP: h213-16-90.mi2.albacom.net

***Kyryn comes in***

Hey, all. I haven't been in for the past week because Okami and I took a little vacation to visit his great aunt, and then, when we came back, we found out that Okami's remaining grandmother had passed away. The good thing was that it was quick.

Note on the RtP issue: As editor, I take a certain amount of responsibility for the episodes that I work on. Mine is usually the final hand that touches them before they are released. This is true of any programming.

Welcome to all the new folks!

Coyote> I sympathize with the car problems. The balance and rotation that I was talking to you about on IM turned into four new tires and an alignment -- almost $400 worth of work.

Later All!

***Kyryn heads out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:46:11 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

*Warpmind enters, grinning wickedly from ear to ear.*
Well, my engineers have performed admirably; ten prototypes are constructed. Click my name for further information on the TIE Predator... ]:)

This Gasper situation: I'll refrain from commenting, since I'm not entirely familiar with the background, save this: to my knowledge, only two... I'm hesitant to refer to them as persons; those who have been here long enough might remember the two trolls who visited briefly... only two beings have ever been banned from this place. Gasper was not one of them.

Well, gotta run. See ya.
*Warpmind heads out again, boarding his brand-new TIE Predator, which resides suspended on a magnetic field in the parking lot.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:48:07 AM
IP: mp-216-237-219.daxnet.no

might make more sense, I mean. :P
Kit
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 08:53:55 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-39.dlls.grid.net

Jackal: You're having another child? Congratulations! Wait, you said you don't want it...does that mean...? <sighs> Okay, congratulations retracted, I guess. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about the kid too, hope you can get the situation with it resolved somehow and if you end up raising him/her I wish you good luck with it (as I do with your other kids). You may not be everyone's idea of the perfect father, but I personally think you'd do just fine. We never know until we try, though, do we? :) Well, like I said, good luck.

Gasper: You are not unwelcome here, alright? Let me say that again. You are NOT unwelcome here. Don't know where you got the idea that you were. I understand the problem you had with Robby (which you two will have to resolve yourselves), but there is no reason for you to extend the negative feelings caused by that to the rest of us. Doug and I at least have enjoyed seeing you here and reading your posts (except for the last one, for obvious reasons). We're sorry you feel like you do, but you shouldn't. At least not toward most of us. We never made you conform to our RP standards, right? <sighs> Hope you will read this, understand it, and take appropriate action. I don't want to lose a friend.

<grimaces> Maybe I should go back to sleep. The world when make more sense when I wake up. :)

Kitainia
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 08:53:32 AM
IP: pool-209-138-63-39.dlls.grid.net

:: blinks at some of the latest comments ::

Hmm, maybe it's just me, but it seems like the RP (and the ensuing bad feelings) are beginning to be taken WAY too seriously. People should be having fun, not being browbeaten and made to feel unwelcome. :/

Only 37 days left until The Gathering, and just 3 days left to get your pre-registration mailed and postmarked by the June 30th deadline. Click my name for con info!

Patrick Toman
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 07:03:24 AM
IP: ac8734f8.ipt.aol.com

Robby- I'm gonna try and keep this civil You're right. I coulda changed it...but you know what...I really didn't see anyone else complaining. Under any other circumstances, including Fanfic, I would have not used that much DBZ influence. But I thought I'd experment a little, and have some fun. Obviously, I can't have had this fun. So I made it easier and said F%%% it. I don't think you would have given me a chance on another style anyway, because you see fit to control what happens. Granted 4 is your character, but you let it under CR rules, as I read them, to be used in any which way.

Now if you have a problem with my character, you should have kept it out of the forums. I had my e-mail address next to my name at 90% of my posts, and this could have been resolved without anyone's notice, but seeing as you wished to make this public, fine.

If I'd had used a lightsaber...would I be to Luke Skywalker ish? If I had used a Gun, would I be too much like Riggs? I just tried to have a little fun, and I never admitted to being like Goku. You never gave me the chance. That's why I said I quit. I didn't feel like bringing a character I liked down to what others expected. The power levels were understandable, but the fighting style...that was only one post, let alone a paragraph, and you label me in public?

I don't want to turn this into a shouting match, but you started it, and I feel the obligation to defend myself. Go ahead and write me out Robby-boy, I've got other things I'd like to work on. Kill me for all I care, and show the world how you wish to totally humiliate a person who stood up to you on this one. Might want to consider Damage control next time.

Everyone else, better not be to defined in your character. If you're a gargoyle, don't fly to much, because that might be to Gargoyle's Influenced.

Thanks for ruining it for me Robby. Now, I'm just a lurker who doesn't feel to welcome. You succeeded.

To everyone else again, I 'm sorry I had to say this...but if someone wants to bring the fight to the public, the least I could do is give my side of the story.

I was playing Diablo, and a Player Killer (PK) with invulnerability started attacking me. I had to get the hell outta Dodge. When I came back in, I was accused of PKing, something I don't do. Turns out that the real PK was being a jerk and turned people against me, and I had to convince them I wasn't. WEll, kinda reminded me of something that happened in a CR I visited...

I hope you all have a good rest of the day after reading this...I don't mean to start anything, and this is my business alone.

Later all,

Your friendly but unwelcomed lurker,

Gasper S. Keltner

Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 06:16:56 AM
IP: 209.83.84.4

*Warpmind walks in, wearing a smug grin in addition to his usual outfit.*
Well, guys, I now have an engineering crew working on my latest creation: the TIE Predator. It will be an entirely new TIE design, vastly superior in all aspects. Don't worry, Wilek, I'll send you the specs once the prototype is properly tested. :)

Sid: You want to know what happened to Pistoff? Well... you know his rants, right? One of them describes his reasons for leaving the CR...

Okay, finally, I get to sift through this week's CR...

RL Soundtrack? Whee, if this is what I think it is, there are some REALLY messed up moods I've been in lately...
Successful in some field: Beethoven's 9th.
Somewhat annoyed: Frog's Theme from Chronotrigger.
Very annoyed: Gremlins.
REALLY pissed off: Twilight Zone.
As you can probably guess, if I were to have background music, it would be... interesting to be around me...

Shadowrider: That's a fairly accurate description of what happened in my absence? Pity I was gone; the combined DC/Bill Gates scene I'd write up... ];)

Mecord: Could you please debrief me on our CR locations? After a week's absence, I'm certain I've missed a few things... I need to know where I am, where I'm going and why I am sitting in a handbasket...

Archwolf: Truce. Oh, and worry not; the TIE Predator that my engineers are building is mererly based on the TIE series - it won't have any Imperial connections whatsoever. I assure you, its only purpose will be to hunt down people I don't like. So far, DC is listed eight times...

*Glances at the specs for the TIE Seraphim.* I dunno, Wilek, considering the specs for the TIE Predator, it looks kinda pesky, no offense... besides, I don't believe my engineers would be happy if I suddenly wanted an entirely different craft, eh? ;)

Kit: I hope I'll be able to stick around for a while, too. :)

Well, that's it, and I've gotta log off the machine here, so... A hearty welcome to all you new vict... visitors here, and I'm off to oversee the development of my new craft. After I've had a decent breakfast, of course. Ciao.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 05:18:42 AM
IP: mp-217-208-67.daxnet.no

Daniel Johnson> <<I go in for that subtle humor>>: That would be my problem, there is not a subtle bone in my body.

SOROW> <<All the #@!$ time!>>: And just what is wrong with tempo wars? All you have to do is watch the drum major. I found them quite fun, and miss them in college (but at least I got singing tubas in exchange (alternate words for Viva Les, Tomorrow, and Johnny Comes Marching (and straight Puff just for TGS (the assistant director was Timothy Guy Smith (aka Guy Prospect), with his initials on his bookbag)))). Hey, five nested parentheses, might be a new record for straight text.

Grinz> <<We could become friends...>>: Hopefully, but I am having trouple parsing what you said. There may be some misunderstanding here. I am not at MIT (they rejected me), just an comp. scientist/engineer, so I was just declaring my loyalty to techies in general.

Sev. Jr.> <<it's not....well, dark or angry enough>>: Just wondering about your thoughts on Toccata and Fugue in D Minor and Holst's Mars.
<<guys should just not sing like that. Not without a vasectomy, that is>>: Ever hear Neil Young?

Kitainia> <<what kind of serious bad guy has a name like that?>>: Hey, it's a Greek letter, well respected as the coefficient of friction.

Winterwolf> video format: Real seems to be the choice for many people (and other fandoms), but .mov might be more cross platform compatable.

Because I felt like it, the mp3 is now the theme to How the West Was Won.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 04:09:05 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Yeah. I've been away soo long I forgot that..., We are clan. I've kept to myself soo long, it almost strikes me as weird to let sum things go...

Todd Jensen- Hi man! Tell me hey. I know you've never talked to me before, but atleast tell me hey! :o)

Rebirth of sinister evil- ::Sighs:: So much shyt has happened to me, that I feel emotionally drained, and now feel like a mechanical version of what used to be me. I'm soo empty and tried of fighting..... I've fought with the DA, I've fought with lawyers, I've fought with police officers, I've fought with theRAPISTS, I've fought with family, I've fought with strangers, and now I got another baby on the way, and I can't help but think, "What, has ur stupid ass never heard of birth control?" And when I even hinted @ abortion I got my head ripped off, I'm soo terrified of bringing another child into the world. At sum point sumwhere I went down the wrong path for my life. I'm soo f***ed, nothing can fix this.

Anywayz, so a Perfect Circle is gud? They opened for Nine Inch Nails back in May, but I didn't pay much attention to them. And I really can't wait for the metallica/korn show on the 7th!!! :o)~

jacKal
Ga, UsA
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 01:32:28 AM
IP: ac9884de.ipt.aol.com

**Winterwolf enters the CR looking much better!**

I recently got back from celebrating my sister's 3 year wedding anniversary. We went to a seafood restaurant and ate too much food. I wound up taking half of my food home and I still feel stuffed. On the bright side, now I have some seafood for a few days. Anyone want some yummy seafood?

Email seems to be working fine. I haven't seen any problems with it. Just don't send me 1MB or more in an email. My quota will be gone in a flash if you do.

I'm working with Brooklyn and after seeing the positive responses I'll just say we'll move forward with the video archive of Gargoyles. Just for the enjoyment of the show of course. I was thinking of having it available in two different formats. Which would you choose if given the choice? The choices are QuickTime, Real Player, Windows Media Player or a different player. Right now I'm leaning towards QuickTime and Real Player.

Shadowrider> <health> Glad to hear about your quick recovery! <chess> I agree with your assessment of chess. It is a subtle game but one mistake or one exceptional move completely changes the game. I've played with some exceptional players that could make it look like they are loosing an exchange of pieces but after several moves are ahead by a major piece! Then there are other players who can sacrifice a piece to put you in checkmate! Chess is a game where if you know how to out maneuver your opponent you can make them look foolish. If you are of nearly equal skill then this usually only happens when a mistake is made. Two recent games I played I was able to dominate because I controlled the center of the chessboard.

Knoxville and Tony> Welcome to the CR both of you! Enjoy your stay. Remember - Insanity is your friend!

Caliope> I'll keep wishing for you're complete recovery! <short> Hmm, he would be an inch or two taller than I would! I don't think you're short. Although I imagine you have a good chance of fitting into on of those children's rides. :) <car> **blush** I wasn't trying to show off. Well maybe just a little, but I just thought I should share since you did. If you find yourself in New York and want a ride I'll be happy to help. ^_^

Mecord> Now look what you did! ;) What Mecord meant to say is you should feed the werewolves! <knee> Sounds like you are on you feet running around too much! Hope you feel better.

Brooklyn> I've uploaded some pictures for our website. I'll be adding more as I have time. If only I had more time to work on it. Still it's coming along. :)

Janine> You're so sweet to put up another picture! **hug** I have to give you some pictures of my own. Hopefully I'll talk to you later. ^_^

Wilek> <Do you have enough space for the entire first and second seasons> Actually I might. It will be a serious misuse of resources but I have an unlimited graduate student account from college I plan on using. Let's all hope it lasts for a while. ;)

Niamhgold> Thanks for the cloud! I'm feeling much better today. :) <vertigo in a car while reading> I can do that to myself too! Strangely it doesn't effect me when I'm riding the train. Still it is a rare event for me. <upside-down rides> You mean you wouldn't get on all the rides with the rest of us? ;) <Cranberries> Put me down as another one that likes the Cranberries! ^_^

SOROW> How are you doing? Hope you are feeling fine! <great anticipation> I'm going to have to send you more email then! I'll send some more soon. :)

DPH> <chat> If you have MSN Instant Messenger, AOL IM or ICQ we can chat. I'm not really up for installing a fourth chatting program.

Christine> Don't overload yourself with work!

******WARNING BFTS - RP******
DPH leads Winterwolf into a side room and closes the door. Winterwolf keen hearing notes that the room is soundproofed. "So what did you want to ask me in private?" Winterwolf inquired.

"You said you had the power of thermal reduction but..." DPH started

"You noticed I don't personally have that power. The power comes from these." Winterwolf points at his bracers. "Somehow I doubt that is the only thing that is bothering you."

"Yes, there is more. You seem to have quite a bit of magic. Where does it all come from?"

Winterwolf tensed and decided to ask his own questions "Well what about you? You see to be keeping your own secrets."

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Time for me to go to sleep! Good night friends!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 01:27:25 AM
IP: nas-78-142.nyc.navipath.net

**RP HERE- THE TEN SAGA**

Jim Iza Noying and his clone Mij wandered around the new area a bit, their natural luck combined with Jim's unnatural smoothness and conveniant plot devices had them end up running into Sevarius Junior, and the rest of the group he was with.
Sj was surprisecd. "Jim... What're you doing here? Didn't we get you brought back to life?"
"Yeah well, 4 used the HFIL Dragger on me. Again. At least she didn't kill me."
"I suppose not. So, do you know a secret way out of here?"
"Um... No? But I'm sure if we just walk that-a-way for a while, we'll find our way out..."
Another voice came from behind them. "No need for that, I opened a portal that will take us right out." the group looked at a young girl in a waitress outfit. Jim grinned.
"Sis!"
SJ stared. "Sis? But, that's not Kari..."
"Yeah I know, she's my OTHER sister! Kitty!"

**END RP FOR NOW....***

Eesh, I've been busy this week. Working! Me! Believe it or not. I barely wiped the CR Sunday... ANyhow, on to buisness...

Life soundtrack- Hmm... What A Wonderful World, Stand By Me, Barbara Ann, Kokomo, My Girl, American Pie, the Ranma 1/2 opening theme song, all the Final Fantasy Music, and anything Slayers related. They're all long time favorites of mine, and probably represent my life fairly well...

Warpmind- Its a bit late, but welcome back!

Titan AE flopping- Honestly, we can't blame this one dying on the mouse. Fantasia made less than 2 million opening weekend, so it didn't draw away *THAT* much of the box office. The things to blame for Titan's failure are Shaft and Fox's own shabby advertising. I'm not slamming Shaft, its just that Shaft was a good enough movie that critics suggested people go see it instead of Titan, and well, they did. Also, Fox did some fairly lame previews. Not as bad as say... Iron Giant's, but... You don't advertise a movie by showing a couple of clips with jokes. Those jokes get worn out by the third time you see the preview. Instead, they should have stuck with previews of Earth blowing up, chases through space, laser fights, and that scene in the ice field to dramatic movie. THAT would have gotten an audience. As far as the 80 million budget... That was their fault. An average anime movie goes from 2-5 million, tops. They could have found a way to be cheaper.

Gasper- All I asked was that you not bring quite so much DBZ influence. (Kami, Korin, the senzu beans, the kaio-ken, etc. etc...) Your character was basically Goku. And while that's fine for meeting, its not much fun to RP with a character that powerful. Hope you understand and change your mind and come back. If not, well, I'm writing you out of the RP for now as you requested.

Fulyl downloadable garg episodes- NOT a good idea. Disney is nice about the garg fandom right now because we're free advertising, but I doubt they'd take kindly to online versions of their shows being aired and potentially costing them profit or viewership...

Speaking odf Disney, Dumlao once pointed out that Disney reps spend all day online investigating ebsites like this in secret. So we may have a Disney rep reading this right now! Hi Disney person!

Matthew- Ekans and Koffing were supposed to be an Omastar, one of the rare fossil pokemon only seen in one episode so far. ANd as to the scene with Jame's inflatable chest, that was indeed cut out. I've seen the original version, and trust me, we're probably better off without it.

Oh, just out of curiosity, who wants to hear the rather disturbing speech given at Akon's cosplay by none other than Racer X? If enough people are interested, I'll post it in here despite the fact it might be offensive...

And that's about it for now... Laters!

Robby
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:37:37 AM
IP: spider-mtc-tc014.proxy.aol.com

Here is a link to an msn article that came up today- that describes the subject of my work rant- good reading.
jenna
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:21:37 AM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

**RP WARNING**

In the Avatar of Ganon's main dining hall, the last three of Mephisto's loyal demons are throwing up their hands and yelling, "Okay, we give up! Don't kill us!" The forces of Borg, Ravens, and others who surround them advance toward the trio over the dead bodies of all the other demons they were fighting (and a much smaller number of dead Avatar personnel). "Jespe," Khesaat orders one of his men, "cuff these three and take them to the detention level. We'll ask Wilek what he wants done with them later." "You got it, boss," the Gungan replies, then he and several other Avatar personnel escort the demons away. "Wimps!" Stephanie yells at them, earning several frowns from people nearby. "Anoth," Tricia ignores her and asks Wilek's fay friend, "are there any more demons on this station?" The fay waves his hand and then nods. "Two more, in the control room." "Mr. Nereus and the other Ravens must be fighting them now," Miriam grimaces. Elena nods, then gasps as she does a sensing spell of her own. "One or both of those demons has a power level in the thousands!" "Power level?" Boris asks, confused. By their expressions, most of the others share his emotion. Miriam explains what it means and they nod, then gasp. "There's no way Kit and the others can handle something like that on their own!" Jammer states the obvious. "We need to get up there and help them, now!" The others nod in agreement, Stephanie and Boris both loudly voicing that they need to hurry. "Let's think first," Tricia says, then looks at Miriam. "Do we have anyone here who can take on this really powerful demon with a chance of success?" "I probably could," says Anoth. "My power level is somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand, I've never calculated it exactly." "Just let me at it!" Forfexx shouts. "Power levels don't matter when someone's ripped apart faster than they can fight back!" "Okay, you two better come upstairs with us then," Elena says. "Yes," Miriam agrees. "I will too." She turns to Khesaat. "Spread your men around the station while we're handling these last two demons, try to get some idea of how badly damaged it is. Also send a team to the hangar to check out that unauthorized ship that landed. If it belongs to demons or other forces opposed to us, as it probably does given that announcement, destroy it immediately." "Yes, ma'am," the Kilthari nods. "It will be done." "Good," Jammer says. "Now come on, guys, let's get to helping the others!" Forfexx, Anoth, Miriam, and the other Ravens in the room nod, and then they all rush off. Khesaat watches them go, then turns to give orders to his subordinates, only after doing so looking for the dragons who helped in the battle to see what they've been up to while he was otherwise occupied and what they will do now ($ Since they're your characters, Mecord, you can pick it up from here $).

The display changes to the control room, where Kitainia, Doug, Keith, Tom, Lathrop, and Orion are fighting Nine while Mephisto, Anthony, and Wilek look on with frowns. The six Ravens are running around Nine, firing weapons and spells at her, but she is dodging almost every one, even those that come from her blind side or flanks. The few that hit show little visible effect, some damage to the powerful female demon's armor and no more. Twice Anthony and Wilek have tried to contribute with surprise shots from their weapons, but these have also missed and Nine has also thrown up a shield spell around them and Mephisto which is apparently keeping them out of the fight. "You are amusing me more and more!" she mocks the Ravens now after hitting them with a powerful energy wave that only Orion's quickly applied mass healing spell saved them from. "Soon this must end, though. You must realize you cannot win!" "We intend to keep trying!" Tom retorts. "Yeah," Keith sighs. "Even if it kills us." With that he throws an explosive ninja star that hits Nine in the chest (lucky shot) and knocks her down, but is revealed to have done no visible damage as she gets back up and makes a teasing face. "Nothing we do is working!" Doug drops his jaw. "We'll see about that!" Kit snaps, raising her rocket launcher and firing. Nine lets the shot hit her, and when it's over she is still standing without apparent injury, chuckling and slapping her knee. Lathrop frowns and fires off a meteor swarm that she lets hit her too. "I almost felt that one!" Nine grins when the smoke from the multiple explosions clears, revealing lots of burn marks and blast scars on her armored clothing but no wounds on her body itself. "Hmm, it actually managed to damage my armor," Nine sneers. "I'm surprised. But of course that's as close as you'll get. Furnace of Acheron!!!" She waves her wand and a massive corona of fire erupts in the room, knocking all of the Ravens to the ground. They gasp and crawl over near each other as Nine watches them laughing, quickly uncorking and drinking down healing potions to ease their wounds. "Our usual amount of brute force is not working," Lathrop whispers. "I could summon something powerful to fight her, but the resulting battle might destroy the Avatar control room as well. We need to try something else to take down just her." "If anything we can do will work," Doug points out. "Did I fight demons this powerful all the time back when I had my memory?" "No," Keith rolls his eyes. "None of us has ever fought anything like her before, that's why she's beating us." He looks at Kit. "What now, oh fearless leader of ours?" "I don't know," Kit sighs, glaring at Nine as the powerful demoness watches them and laughs. "We have to do something, though." "But what?" asks Tom, just as the screen goes blank.

**MAYBE WE'LL FIND OUT SHORTLY, END FIRST HALF OF THIS POST'S RP**

Good evening CR dwellers. :) How's the week going for all of you? Good, I hope. :) For those who are wondering about the unfair test grade I tried to act against last week, I didn't have much success. All I earned were a few frowns and probable enmity from the professor. <sigh> Not only that, the next exam in the course is coming up in a couple of days. Yeah, the TA said I would probably do better on it and I intend to, but still I'm concerned. Pray for me if you can, please. I certainly need it. <grimace> Now on to replies.

Jackal: <things are not what they seem, and the problems that happened then, are only NOW dying down. And with that dying, there's like this ungodly rebirth of more sinister evil.> Well, that's the way it usually is, isn't it? :( I know just how you feel. Sorry to hear your life isn't going so well after all. But hey, that means it's even better that you're back in here with your friends, doesn't it? We can help you, after all. :) And we will, if you need it. Hope your life eases up and improves soon, let us know how it develops. And once again, welcome back!

David G: <Avalon Wars is on the back burner> That's fine, I'll read it whenever you get to it. Hope to be enjoying it soon, it sounded like a very intriguing series when you described it a while back. :)

Stephen: Thanks for explaining some of the problems with last week's Timedancer episode. It didn't make them stop being problems, but it did tell us a little bit about what the writers were thinking when they did what they did, and that was good. To me, the Council scene didn't seem to have the characters "taking care of business" as much as taking up space before Brooklyn and Sata's reunion, the stereotyped youngster characters heightened that. If you'd concentrated on clan and world affairs instead of them, maybe it wouldn't have been a problem. Of course, it's a bit late to say that now. :( As for Mudfoot, well, I never saw Fat Albert, so I didn't get the reference. I'm probably not the only one in here who can say this either. About the fire extinguishers, "Ditto," and everything else, someone else has already addressed them. You know why they were wrong. Hopefully such mistakes will be fixed next time, if not eliminated. The best advice I can give to help it be so is that when writing, don't go with what worked in another story. Write what works in the story you're doing. Also remember your audience, and try to please all of us, not just little groups of us (like the Who-vians, the people who saw Fat Albert and would get the Mudfoot joke, the people who would smile at Brooklyn's wisecracks even if they don't fit his character that much given the development he's undergone and the situations they're expressed in (which were totally wrong for wisecracking and felt thrown in IMO), and so on). You're not writing the story just for them. And most of all remember that your writing can have mistakes which need fixing, no matter how much praise you've gotten in the past. :) Remember all this with the next story you write, and you will probably create something more well-written and enjoyable. :) Hope you're not offended by this advice, that is in no way my intention. I have to give Doug similar counseling on his fanfic more often than you might think. It works for him and makes his stories better in my opinion, hope it's the same for you. :)

Janine: <nods> You're right, it is definitely not a good idea to mess with a pagan Leo female. You shouldn't mess with a Jew-with-some-Christian-views Leo female (me) either, or any female who's willing and able to fight back. <grin> Congratulations on solving the situation with your ex, hope things will work out better for you now. Sorry about the phone line you lost, I hope you can somehow still get online to spend time with your friends here. We'll miss you if you can't. :(

Calliope: Congrats on surviving camp, glad you got through it. I remember from the time I counseled that it often seemed like hell when I went through it, like it would never be over. Then, when it was, I regretted that, and all I could think about were the good experiences. Hope it's the same for you. <returns hug>

Shadowrider: Don't worry, we haven't come close to hating you yet. I seriously doubt it's ever going to happen. :) Hope you stick around as long as you can and enjoy this place. :) Good luck with your next fanfic also, I look forward to reading it when you get it out. Glad your fever problem was brief. BTW, please tell your friend that I think he composed a very profound poem and if he has not been published, the industry in your country must be as nuts as the one here that won't accept Christine's work. Hope that's not so. :)

Niamhgold: I must have missed the bit about the mother leaving her kids in your store last post. <grimace> Sorry about that. I too am dumbfounded and horrified that it happened, thus I can totally empathize with your wanting to give the woman an intense verbal haranguing. Glad that the kids came out of it okay and she got caught by the police. They'll see that she gets her just deserts, hopefully. :) I think abandoning one's children like that is a pretty serious crime. Not to mention the sign of a serious mental problem I can't even begin to guess the cause of. :( Oh well, at least it appears to be over now. Congrats on getting through it and going back to your usual happy life. <grin> (Note to Patrick- IMO, no reason the mother had for doing a thing like she did could have been good enough. She could have helped her kids, done what she was supposed to, and she abandoned them instead. I call that unforgivable, and share SJ's opinion of it. <sigh> Also, Goliath's decision to abandon the eggs was a bit different IMO, because he considered the children he abandoned his clan's (not his), he was reasonably sure he was leaving them in good hands, and his entire family had just been killed or turned to stone seemingly forever. Yeah, I have problems with his decision too when I consider it from your viewpoint, but I think in the same situation I would probably do the same thing. :( )

Theresa: Congrats on the niece! Hope you treat her well and don't spoil her too much (same goes double to her parents). By the way, what's her name?

Bengali: Welcome back, haven't seen you in here in a while. :( Thanks for expressing your opinion of Pokemon and Digimon, I completely agree with it. Especially the part about Pokemon having lots of incredibly dumb ideas and characters in its episodes, and Digimon being worse in many ways. <This is my opinion, disagree if you like but please don't flame.> Like I've said before, I do acknowledge the show's good points, but consider them overshadowed by the bad. Never seen Monster Rancher, so I can't really say if it's any better like Robby said it is. Some of what I've heard about it, though- such as it being a Pokemon clone and the villain being named Moo (what kind of serious bad guy has a name like that?)- don't make it sound that great. :( But I shouldn't pass judgement, having never seen it, so I'll leave it at that.

SOROW: Sorry about those pathetic customers, congrats on surviving them. I hate to say I've encountered more than my fair share of such people in my current job as a cashier at Tower Records. There's the ones who have to ask me where certain music is when it's right behind them or a sign pointing the way's in plain view, the ones who will get mad and make a scene when I remind them of the store policy of making them check their backpacks at the counter while browsing (usually the same people over and over wanting attention), the old guys who think we sell records because of the store's name (we don't sell records, but we do have CDs, videos, DVDs, music accessories, books, and tapes), and other assorted idiots. Dealing with them on a daily basis drives me even crazier than all the other hassles in my life. If your customers are on their level, you have my sympathies. If not, well, I hope I've made you feel better by knowing someone has it worse. :) That's one thing sisters can do.

Winterwolf: I will definitely attend that party for Shadowrider if I can, let me know when it is as soon as you can. :) Thanks also for your words about my grade. You're right on the money with what's wrong with such a policy as the professor has. I told him what you said and why it's true, but unfortunately he wouldn't listen. <sigh> Oh well, I'll do better on the next test, and even if I don't, at least I know I'm learning the course's concepts the right way even if it's not the way the professor thinks I should. :)

Gasper: Will miss you, hope you're just leaving the RP and not the CR. You've been a good friend while here, I know I'm not the only one who'd hate to see you go. Sorry if we didn't make you feel welcome, I'm sure it was no one's intention. Hope you will see that and come back soon. ;)

Life Soundtrack: Mine would probably have a lot of different genres of music. There would be some rock and pop (Sting, Genesis, Aerosmith, Wilson Phillips, Billy Joel, Tom Petty, Sarah McLachlan, Roxette, Dave Matthews, INXS, Meatloaf, Oasis, Natalie Imbruglia, Journey, and others); some country (Faith Hill, George Strait, Tricia Yearwood, Garth Brooks, Willie Nelson); some classical (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Salieri, Prokofiev, and Wagner); maybe a little rap (Tupac, Will Smith, Eminem); and some heavy metal (AC DC, Metallica). A few cartoon theme songs too. The artist represented more than any other would be the Rolling Stones (some of their songs, like 19th Nervous Breakdown, Stupid Girl, Paint it Black, Ruby Tuesday; Good Times, Bad Times; and Satisfaction describe my life more often than I can believe. Let's Spend the Night Together is also a good one for me and Doug).

Firestorm: Good luck getting over your computer problems soon. I too would like to see a tally of how all the pictures did on votes if you can post it. Hope they all get a lot, so we can have a diverse tally in here. :)

Jenna: The conclusion you came to in your co-worker rant is unfortunately very true too much of the time. :( If I had a nickel for every time I've seen something like it happen among women I know, including myself and my friends, I'd buy all the gasoline and oil in the Middle East and sell it to people at reasonable prices. <sighs> The worse thing about such problems is, you never know why they develop unless you stop to think about it and it's not easy to do that. Usually it's the tendency of women (and people in general) to blame the other person for their problems and not try to discover if they in fact contributed to the cause of it more. I know that probably hasn't happened with you, but it has with me more times than I care to consider. <grimace> I think I've found most of my mistakes, learned from them, and gotten past them, but every so often a possible new one rears its head. Yeah, someone else almost always turns out to be the cause of it, but still the problem gets you down while it exists. :( What you said about us women needing to look past our own noses and unite as sisters to do good things is very very true. I really wish more women would learn that lesson. You're also right about jealousy, it's an evil feeling that helps no one and damages us all. Why women indulge in it so much I do not know, probably has to do with the low self-esteem we all suffer from in some way. In many of us, that creates selfishness, which leads to desire for that which we do not have, which leads to jealousy and division. :( Not sure if this is right, but it feels like it is and I don't have time right now for further speculation. :( I've gotten over all my problems with jealousy so far, hope you can soon say the same. Let me know if I can help. I'll pray for you to survive and get through your life's problems if you'll do the same for me. :) Glad your co-worker and her problems will be gone from the department soon, btw. I'm sure her replacement should be easier to deal with. <fingers crossed>

Bronx: Snotty people do indeed make the worst customers. Congrats on surviving the ravages of and handling those you encountered. I say the same to myself almost every day (you wouldn't believe how many snotty people there are in this city, especially around UT).

NAMBLA (not the Marlon Brando related group): This organization disgusts me, to say the least. If I may quote from Power Rangers, they make me sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, SICK!!! <grimaces> The reasons why are obvious. It definitely proves there's a dark side to free speech and assembly when organizations like this can exist and not get indicted. I still won't give up my First Amendment rights because of such groups, but having them around does make one feel not that great. :( Hope they at least have a low membership and will soon get the negative attention necessary to outlaw them. <sigh> Okay, enough on topics that disturb me. On to happier things.

SJ: I too am wondering how they'll top the last Terminator movie. Just hope they won't put as many unresolved paradoxes in the next one as they had in the second. :( The series' whole story has to be reasonably tied together somehow. Thanks for the info on the new Batman film, I hope it lives up to the reputation of the people working on it. I too have enjoyed Darren Aronofsky and Frank Miller's work in the past. Congrats on completing your summer courses and getting to relax a while, I envy you. :) Good luck finding a job when you feel the need, hope that's not too soon.

Female Brooklyn: Welcome! Of course we don't mind if you hang around here, hope you enjoy it and make lots of friends just like Jaden did when he was here. And hopefully will again when he comes back. :) The CR can always use more interesting people, and you certainly seem that type. On the same note, welcome to Knoxville and Tony and welcome back to Daniel Johnson and Emmabu!

Mary: <Stone Bikini> You enjoy sex-related humor aimed at males too, huh? Good to know I'm not the only girl who does. It'd be less funny if it wasn't so often true. <grin> (Don't worry, Gside, some women do take it as a compliment when males drool over them. I should know, I'm one. :)

Emmabu: As I said above, welcome back! Congrats on the good vacation and thanks for sharing that interesting Gargoyles-related experience you had. I too wish I could have more like it myself. Maybe we all would have such experiences more often if Gargoyles got back on the air.

Warpmind: <nods> I understand why you had to be away, thanks for the explanation. Glad you're back now, hope you'll remain for a good long while. :)

Mecord: Eleven-hour shifts are indeed a difficult thing to suffer through, congrats on surviving yours. Hope your knee feels better soon and good luck finishing your fanfic. I'll read it when it comes out. Also, welcome back!

<sighs> And that's all for this post. Time for me to go hit the sack. Thanks to all who have read this, hope you will respond. :) I'll see you all again later, have a good night. And good lives, hopefully. :)

**BACK TO THE RP**

"Okay, guys, huddle," Kit is whispering to the others as the screen comes back on. "We have to plan some strategy, and quickly! Otherwise, she'll let loose with another power blast and we'll be dead!" "Some protectors you're turning out to be!" Mephisto yells at the group as they consider options, earning glares from Wilek, Anthony, and all six of the Ravens as well as another round of laughter from Nine. "Ignore him!" Kit tells her friends. "We have to get this other demon. What can we use against her?" "Nothing that seems to have much effect," Keith answers with a frown. "Even if it hits, her armor absorbs it, and she hits us back ten times worse with that wand." "That's it!" Tom snaps his fingers, causing Nine to look over. "We have to get rid of that wand!" "You really think that will work?" Orion asks with a grimace. Lathrop, Doug, and Kit are about to comment in reply when Nine's laughter cuts them off. "Well, bodyguards of Mephisto?" she sneers. "Are you ready to give up?" "Like hell!" Kit retorts, leaping to her feet. The others grimace with aches and pains as they do the same. "Okay," Kit whispers to them. "Everyone but Keith distract her. Keith, you go for the wand." "Right," Keith nods, twirling his flail and moving in. Nine snickers and gets ready to blast him, but is distracted as holy lightning bolts, plasma shotgun blasts, magic missiles, laser shots, and grenades from the other Ravens start whizzing at her and she flips around to avoid them. One grenade gets lucky and manages to crack her armor more and knock her down, and Keith uses that instant to rush in, swat her hard on the arm, grab the wand, and throw it to Kit, who catches it and easily snaps it in two with her hands after shouldering her gun. "Fools!" Nine laughs, knocking the smiling and then gasping Keith away from her and into unconsciousness with a directed power blast as she jumps back up. "That was only a conduit! I don't need it! I can still kick your butts as good as my big sister Four is probably kicking your friends'!" With that she raises her arms and gathers energy for another massive attack. The Ravens gulp and take the opportunity to hit her with all they can, but her armor absorbs it all, only cracking a little under the strain. "Oh no!" Tom gulps as she opens her mouth. Then several bullets, an energy beam, a psi-blast, and a bazooka shell slam into Nine from behind, knocking her down and causing the spell energy to fizzle and dissipate. "Hey guys, we're here!" Stephanie yells, rushing in with sword drawn and all the others who came with her from the dining room except Anoth and Forfexx (who are strangely absent) hurrying to enter the room behind. "Where's the powerful demon?" "You just knocked her down!" Tom yells, pointing. Stephanie takes the hint and runs to decapitate Nine, but is thwarted by a directed power blast that knocks her across the room and clean through the wall. "Ow!!!" Stephanie wails as the others gasp and gulp. Nine, whose armor is now so damaged it looks like it's barely holding together but whose body is still apparently uninjured, stands up and looks at them, sheer rage showing itself on her features in great amounts. "You have amused me long enough, mortal weaklings!" she roars, raising her hands to throw another power corona. "Now you will all die!!" The team gulps and scatters for cover as Nine laughs and behind her, a portal of magic begins to form.

"Oh my God," Leah Howell is meanwhile gasping back at Area 51 as she and Mansfield watch events in the Avatar's control room through a monitor connected via satellite to Tom's mini-cam that is set up in their cell inside the Onslaught's trailer. "They can't beat that…whatever she is!" Leah is gaping. "Tom…" "Who cares if they can't beat it?" Mansfield smiles. "It will make our escape from here easier without them when we get around to doing it. Also, without them getting in the way, Thailog can conquer the world." "Is that all you care about?" Leah asks him. "They're people, and they're going to die! People, Bobby! I didn't sign on to this crusade to kill people, I did it to help a world in need!" "Well, they need to die so Thailog can help the world, remember?" "Do they? Do they really? Haven't they shown us they're not bad guys?" "We're not bad guys either," Mansfield retorts. "There ain't no bad guys in this world, ain't no good guys neither. There's just…" He stops, hearing a noise. "What's that?" Leah looks and says, "It's the truck's phone, it's ringing. Should we answer it?" "I don't think they're gonna," Mansfield shrugs, looking at the Borg guards. "You can if you want, though. I'm gonna watch the Ravens finally get creamed." "Suit yourself," Leah sighs, reaching to pick up the phone. Mansfield ignores her, going back to smiling at the image on the monitor, which shows time standing still for everyone in the control room as Nine completes her spell. Then a ray of energy hits her hand and disrupts the casting, causing Nine to roar in surprise and spin around, just in time to see Forfexx and Anoth hop out of the magical portal that was forming behind her to attack.

**THEY WILL DO SO NEXT TIME, END RP**

Kitainia - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:14:52 AM
IP: pool-209-138-202-8-dlls.grid.net

***BEGIN RP***
Sammael barked an order at the two demon soldiers who had come forward to fight Four. "Belzelk! Gigamantis! Show this alien jabronie what the elite soldiers of Hell are really made of!"
At his command, the two demons leapt forward to engage Four in battle. The alien wore an amused look on her face. "This should be interesting. Two of Hell's finest, hmm? Somehow I'm not impressed." She jumped in the air and hovered above them. "Well, here's your shot, 'demon elite'. Hit me with all you have."
Belzelk spun his war flail in lazy circles. "Damn, this bitch has got a mouth on her..." he muttered. He turned to Gigamantis. "You ready for this?"
The giant insect warrior made a clicking sound with its mouthparts, and nodded an affirmative.
"Yeah, me too." With a speed that contradicted his large size, Belzelk launched himself at Four. The green demon sent a flurry of punches and kicks in Four's direction, all of which were easily blocked by the alien.
She fanned her mouth with one hand. "This is boring. So typical. You call this skill?"
"Nope," Belzelk grinned. "This I don't. THIS, however..." The green demon's eyes flashed red, and he raised his arms and roared.
The very ground beneath them began to split apart, breaking up as if caught in an earthquake. Remarkably, though, the dirt began to form into snakelike tendrils, which shot upwards, wrapping around the momentarily surprised form of Four. Before she could react, most of her body, save for her head, was encased in a cocoon of hard dirt and rock. She could not move.
Belzelk blew her a kiss. "Say goodnight, babe. 'Mantis, gimme some juice!"
Gigamantis placed his scythe-like forearms upon his antennae. His entire body pulsed with energy, with the antennae the focus point. With a high-pitched shriek, the insect demon discharged a huge bolt of lightning from the appendages, sending the bolt straight towards Four.
As Belzekl dodged out of the way, the lightning struck Four full force. With the tremendous sound of a thunderclap, the area around Four exploded, sending clods of dirt and rock raining through the air. A cloud of dust filled the area. Belzelk and Gigamantis stood side by side, observing their handiwork. They looked pleased.
Until the dust cleared, and Four was still standing. Her armor was a little singed, and her face a bit smudged, but a smile was on her face. "Finally! You're putting forth a little effort!"
Belzelk grunted. "You ask me real sweet, babe, I'll really show you what pain me and Gig' can cause. Makes no difference to me. It's your blood gonna stain the ground."
***END RP***

Finally! My last summer course class has been completed, and the rest of the summer (all 2 months of it) is mine! Of course, I'll probably wind up looking for a job to pay the extra bills....but I'm spending this week doing nothing but goofing off and playing video games. And watching videos and going to the movies. And eating junk food. And staying up late at night (or rather, into the morning) watching CHIPS reruns on TBS. Ah, glorious summer, how I love thee!

Right now, as usual, it's time for some entertainment stuff!

In case you haven't heard about this in the other room, Fox Animation Studios, after a string of disappointments....well, let's be honest, after nothing BUT disappointments....will be closing its studio. Unfortunately, the studio never did quite have a break away hit. Their latest film, Titan A.E., has only pulled in about 17 million so far in 2 weeks...which is rather dismal seeing as it cost 80 million to make (which I can't believe. It cost them 80 million for THAT? Boy, those Hollywood types just through money around like nobody's business...). So Fox is closing its studios. Looks like the Mouse has won yet again. Anybody feel the same way?
What I can't get past is, what kind of sick, unjust world do we live in when a....*reasonably* entertaining film like Titan A.E. bombs and that godawful piece of poo Chicken Run makes 17 million dollars? Christ, I don't understand that! Unless the same people who like Wallace and Gromit went to see Chicken Run. But then again, Wallace and Gromit sucks too...I guess people would rather see a flick with ugly-looking clay chickens stand around for an hour and a half just talking as opposed to a space opera with planets being blown up. Thank you, America. Now that this dopey chicken movie is successful, we'll now see more of that Wallace and Gromit crap. It's enough to make a man go see "Dinosaur"...

Speaking of dinosaurs....the COOL dinosaurs--that being the ones who eat people--will be back! Work is already underway on Jurassic Park 3! Maybe an unnecessary sequel, true, but I'll spend 8 bucks to see a big-ass T-Rex chew up a few people on the big screen. The script, which director Steven Spielberg is actually helping to write, is being worked on, but the good news is that original cast members Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum, and Richard Attenborough are already signed on to the film.

Star Wars news: Looks like Episode 2 is ALREADY filming now. As we speak, work is being done. In a recent interview with Howard Stern, Sam Jackson recently let it slip that he'll be filming most of his scenes this upcoming month....so looks like some bad-ass Jedi fight scenes are gonna be happening soon. Oh, and a bunch of Australian actors you've never heard of got hired as extras.....but the good news is that they've started filming. Which is good, I say.

Cranberries: Hmm, I like their first album the best. Ever since then, I haven't been that pleased with their work. It's not that it's bad, it just hasn't appealed to me (although I love "Zombie"). Dolores is cute though. I think the reason I'm not that thrilled with their work is that it's not....well, dark or angry enough. Or depressing.
Right now I'm really into Deftones. "Change (in the house of flies)" is a great single, and I've heard lots of good things about their new album "White Pony". And they have a more angry, aggressive style than most contemporary music...no one is going to mistake them for the Backstreet Boys....And A Perfect Cirle--I love their debute album, "Mer de Noms". Christ, it's a beautifully dark album. I've always appreciated Keener's work with Tool, and I think he's the perfect frontman for the new band.
Speaking of music, has anyone else heard the song "Teenage Dirtbag" by Wheatus? Damn....guys should just not sing like that. Not without a vasectomy, that is.

Abandoning Kids: Whenever I hear of a person abandoning their kid like they did in a store, it makes my blood boil. It really pisses me off. I don't automatically think, "Gee, good thing they left the kid alive, instead of throwing them in a dumpster or something". I think it's colossally irresponsible to abandon a kid to anybody but the proper authorities. If they feel they can no longer raise the child, hand over custody to either a child services office or to the police. You don't leave the kid in a f!cking department store where any sick pervert could take them. It's a goddamn loaded gun. I think that these individuals should show some goddamn sense and hand their child, if they really want a "better life" for it, over to the proper authorities, instead of just dropping it off anywhere they feel like it. It's a sad, disturbing situation to ever relinquish custody of a child, but at least do it properly. I believe that New York has been making motions to set up areas, specifically in police stations and social services, to allow these kind of parents easy access to do this, rather than just leaving the kid in the hopes that a good samaritan will come and help it.

DPH: But aren't whale sharks non-aggressive? I thought they stuck to eating the smaller lifeforms, and generally weren't fond of eating humans, unlike their more ambitiously carnivorous cousins. Still, I guess they're big enough to swallow a man if they felt like it.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:57:36 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

**RP RELATED**
The BFTS RP archive will be updated soon. Winterwolf, is there some place we can both chat because it would make collaboration so much easier.
**END RP RELATED**

What kind of fish that lives in the Mediterran Sea is big enough to swallow a human being whole? I was having a debate with a friend about that and he said the only possible answer might be a whale shark.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:02:54 PM
IP: max1-45.cwy.cei.net

G'day Bloak's and Shella's!! I know just posted. Yata yata yata...
Gside, challengy! Challengy! May work photo op. junk but I got a brain! j/k THE BRAINS RULE!!!! :):):) We could become friends... Hey, all I wanted to say! Bye bye!

Female Brooklyn <Grinz> - [female_brook@hotmail.com]
suburbs, <not doing it, don't wanna type more then I have to!>
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:17:48 PM
IP: ip210.schiller-park12.il.pub-ip.psi.net

Just a quick note to say I haven't dropped off the face of the earth! Still trying to keep up on reading the room, but Tim's been hogging the computer to make up for the work he missed last week while he was away. I've been writing more Hothar stuff, will be doing a small site update soon (got a couple new pics, yay!), we've got Sabledrake to put together, and I'm doing an extra night shift this week so I may be less coherent than usual ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 09:59:03 PM
IP: 07-131.009.popsite.net

Hey there not much to say until later.
I'll be on all night so if anyone, and I mean ANYONE wants to talk instant message me. Believe me I'll be here.
I'm really bored!

Brooklyn - [brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 09:17:40 PM
IP: usr168.cqc.com

G'Day!
Coyote: Don't worry, I lost it before I was a born! :) I got a big family, and you ever try to work at a studio? icks...
Thankx!
Warpage eh? I can handle it. <cringes> hopefully...

MOVIE RANT!
Shanghai Noon, great movie two thumbs up! Not Jackie's best but eh.
Big Momma's House, Capital work to the bloaks! :) Halarious, seriously, but you gotta be someone who doesn't have the name 'Ben Stien' :)
other movies... I'm seeing the Patriot soon with Mark... Watch for post!
BOOK RAVE
Debt of Bones, from Legends 2. by T.G. rocks! Mind blowing and you'll get chills with the way he describes his world! Best seller, as are all the books he's written. He and Tolkien are the father's of Fantasy!
Uh... Raveing anymore on junk? YUP!
ANNOYING BROTHER RAVE!
Okay, brother's, no offense to those who are brother's, are annoying, completly! My bro Collypso is my twin, hide me! The guy sneaks into my room, taunts my Friends, hacks my mail! <i really shouldn't of taught him how to hack...> <<My fault he knows <Hits self in the head,> And sends mails to my friends! Then I got two little bro's so their always getting me POed.
Babbling, always am... Glad I'm among fellow babbling fools! My fave quote, 'The Mind is A Terrible Thing', my X B friend B.J. Part of the band Pooch Cavier said it. Well I'm babbling, I'm waiting for the new Time Dancer, and I also have to repost 'Reality Hurts' ick more work..
Thankx for ops on the Havard Yale thing, I might do one semester of yale, one of harvard, it'd work ok I guess.
FYI I'm doing med & historian training. Well I've ranted enough, tankx! BYE!

Female Brooklyn <Grinz> - [female_brook@hotmail.com]
subs :), currently the US till a few years back.
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 08:14:05 PM
IP: 207.57.117.16

Greetings to everyone! Had a good day?
<<<---Sata's picture hasn't been used this week yet...I have to remedy!

Knoxville and Tony:> Welcome here! I hope you'll stay for a while and will enjoy here. Oh, and if you see someone pointing a strange vacuum-cleaner-like device to your head, don't worry...the removal of sanity hurts just a little, and after that you'll feel VERY better...:P

Daniel Johnson:> Funny questions. Particularily liked the one about Ibid's works...it is the same problem I've met with the works of Anonymous (Matthew Anonymous, 1734-1816)...;)

Wilek:> Thanks for caring. I'm almost all right.
Klingon Bird of Prey: now THAT is a cool ship...

Niamhgold:> Got your email, now check yours! :)
Cranberries: yes, I like them. I used not to listen them, but then I had to change my mind, because their songs are too good. May I ask you what's your favorite song of theirs? And your favorite song of all?

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:09:37 PM
IP: h255-22-236.mi2.albacom.net

It's been a strange week, connection-wise, so these may be a little old.

SAAS finally had the first Kenshin tape in, so life is pretty good.

Life soundtrack> I'd like something cool and intimidating, like the Imperial March remixed by Trent Reznor, but with my life... Let's just say the Benny Hill chase theme is more appropriate. Or maybe Weird Al's "One of those days"

Matthew> If I remember right, Ekans and Koffing were supposed to be a hula girl.

Joe> Hi Joe.

Grinz> Greetings and salutations.

Mary Flanders><<They see a girl in a bikini and they turn into drooling idiots! ;P>> Actually, some of us only get that effect with cat-girls. ;)

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 03:19:59 PM
IP: ppp-30.tnt-2.sat.smartworld.net

Gside> All the #@!$ time!

Winterwolf> I always get your messages. With great anticipation :)

Brooklyn> I think that's a wonderful idea. I was able to tape all but four eps before the show was cancelled on TV and I'd love to see them again.

SOROW
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:59:03 PM
IP: dll2a020-1039.splitrock.net

Ack..that last one was me.

Oh yeah: Brooklyn> Great Idea. I know of a place that did that for beast-machines. Go for it. Just put up a disclaimer or something. (Copyright laws are a pain)

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:34:40 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-13.mcmurray.nb.net

Wilek><<<blink> How would that work? Interdictors work by fooling the ship's safety interlocks into thinking they're approaching a gravity well; the engines cut out to prevent catastrophic course deviation>>The Bakuran's developed a smal hyperdrive motivator without safeties. They chain-linked 10 of them on a heavy cruiser druing the Center-Point/Starbuster incident. What happens, is that the first motivator keeps on going till basically the interdiction field causes it to explode. The ship coasts along for a second or two, then the next cuts in. It blows out very quickly, but covers a great deal of distance. The whole thing is like a gargoyle riding blast-wave to gain altitude or velocity. By the same token, it is niether comfortable nor good for the ship's sructure. But hey, if you can get away alive, you can fix the ship in a friendly port.

Shade and sweet water
Anonymous
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:32:58 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-13.mcmurray.nb.net

DJ, huh? What another Daniel joined this room? I have been consistently using a color that maybe one other person uses in this room. I have been using Kentucky Bluegrass. My last post was next to yours, Daniel J, but in a completely different color. So please check your monitor.

NO BFTS RP from me today. Winterwolf, if excite is messing you up, I suggest you acquire another email account. I stopped checking excite because it was slower than the rest of the free emails I was using.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:14:51 AM
IP: max1-5.cwy.cei.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hello, all! How's my favorite CR? ** Holds up a hooked and sightless DC like a caught trout ** Just frying up my favorite meal... ;)

Mecord: Ouch, eleven hour shifts...you're right, they _do_ hurt. Maybe you could try wrapping your knee? You don't want a serious injury. <Fic> It may be taking you time, but I can't wait to read it! It'll be awesome, I bet! :)

Wilek: OOooohh...soundtrack for your fics. I'm on my way to check it out as soon as I post!

Brooklyn: <Fully downloadable episodes > If you can do it without a high level of stress, go for it! Personally, I've seen every ep (except some of the TGC, but who cares about that?) but I only saw "The Price," "Enter MacBeth," and "Her Brother's Keeper" once. So those'd be cool!

Tony: ** In the amusement park robot's voice ** Welcome, my friend, to the home of the noble Gargoyles! ** Niamhgold's regular voice ** May I be the first to tell you to deposit your sanity with the doorman? ;)

Shadowrider: Good to see you're feeling better! :D Check your e-mail! < Soundtrack > You like the Cranberries, too? Cool!

Winterwolf: Hola, compadre! ** Big hugz ** How's things? Ooh, that sunburn sounds brutal! ** Niamhgold has her Weird Sister companions craft up an even bigger cloud with fae-healing snowflakes ** Now you can have two clouds! < web developer > Wow, cool! I'm gonna go check it out! < Soundtrack > Erratic? Me, too! Maybe that's 'cause I haven't gone over all the bumps in my life yet? < Motion sickness > You know what's odd? The only place I've ever felt vertigo was in a car (when I'm distracting myself by, say, reading), but I'm perfectly fine on amusement rides. However, whether I'll _choose_ to go on some of those upside-down rides is an entirely different story... ;)
Oh, yeah! Check your email (the badmitton game begins again!)

Emambu: Welcome back! ** reads story ** Whoa, that's cool! Why can't _I_ meet anyone around here like that? Everyone I know still thinks that gargoyles are those "glorified rainspouts." Sigh.

That's it for now!
Adios!


Niamhgold - [what else @hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 09:52:29 AM
IP: lac-flex214.ncia.net

Gside:
<<my original crack was intended to be more about the "braless" bit, though>> Umm, I know. I was joking, hence the ";)". I go in for that subtle humor.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:36:50 AM
IP: ppp-48.rb5.exit109.com

Cannon rocks my world. By either Pachelbel or Tchaikovsky. If it ain't baroque, fix it. And whay hasn't anyone elso composed for artillery?

Emambu> <<whoever gave me the shakespeare link a while back>>: What have you been doing with it? (it it is tech-two at MIT)

Daniel Johnson> <<A slip of the finger can be so dangerous...>>: You don't think I learned that?
<<'m just repeating what I got from a friend>>: The dangers of repeating something originally said in the first person (my original crack was intended to be more about the "braless" bit, though)...

SOROW> <<I have to pic out all the band music we dance to>>: Land of 1000 Dances, Wipe Out, Rock and Roll Part 2, Get Ready for This, You Really Got Me... I have something for this arrangement of Hush for some reason. Does your Band ever get involved in tempo wars with the visitors using short cheers?

Shadowrider> <<Well...on a quick count...>>: You're right, it's best not to mention the pudding.

Cali`ope> <<I've kindda been zooming throgh latly>>: Not a problem, happens to the best of us.
<<an advantege to being short finaly!>>: And don't forget about being able to get comfortable in standardized seating (theaters, busses, airplanes, and other generally cramped places). Do you like Randy Newman?

Wilek> <<I thought that was only in Europe>>: Maybe it's just the crack (ethernet is so much fun (too bad my laptop couldn't really handle it)).
<<although they're a lot different from Tuxedo Mask's>>: My point.
<<Didn't know you comp sci types were such swingers>>: Now I'm branded for life. Anyway, we did invent the internet (or was that Al Gore?), and you know what its main purpose currently is... (besides, I'm also in comp engineering)

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 04:16:55 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Ok this the last post. I promise.
<Wilek>
probably not enought room to keep even on episode for very long. I'll probably end up putting up 1 episode a week in the order they aired. Let's just say the episode of the week is "The Price" and you want "Turf" I'll probably break the rule and put it up. (For brief period anyway)
And I couldn't do this for all requests. No more than say 3 requests at a time.I'll talf more in depth about it tomorrow.
<Winterwolf>
Tell me what you tihkn about this!
Finally that's it! I'm off to bed woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 02:59:17 AM
IP: usr57.cqc.com

Jackal> <<things are not what they seem, and the problems that haPPened then, are only NOW dying down. And with that dying, there's like this ungodly rebirth of more sinister evil.>> Woah... O_o Anything we should know about? Maybe we can help?

Gside> <<pedestrians (censored to zombies since the original)>> I thought that was only in Europe? O_o <<Try around with the internet friends, or trade off all you high powered stuff to a new guy in the next game to go through and get all the others you couldn't get before.>> Interesting...thanks. ^_^ I also have Pokemon Stadium and the GB/N64 interface; that might help somehow...<<Tuzedo Mask. I'm sot sure wich looks more stupid, the hat or the mask...>> Ehh, I think they're kinda cool, but I'm into hats and masks (at least two of my characters have them, although they're a lot different from Tuxedo Mask's)... :) <<Cummer course number two begins for me tomorrow.>> Didn't know you comp sci types were such swingers.

Niamhgold> <<Some woman came into our store with her kids (one was a girl around five, a boy around three/four, and a one year-old in a stroller), and told them she'd be back in a few minutes. Well, she *never* came back, and those poor kids were in our store until about one this morning(when the police came).>> Wha...?! <speechless> <<If you could create a soundtrack for your life (in the same way that movies have a soundtrack), what would you choose?>> Probably something along the lines of http://www.idrive.com/s8osv/files/Shared--the soundtrack to my fic series. :) I kept tripping over songs from movies and the like that were eerily appropriate to various parts of my fics, so I gave them appropriate names and uploaded them here... ^_^ There's another MP3 archive at http://www.idrive.com/wnereus/files/Shared that contains MP3s that I find just generally kewl...There's this one song that isn't there, called I Want To Kill You by someone named Darling Violetta, that's pretty neat. (For the first minute or so...)

Green Baron> <<Interactive Shoot 'em up C-Span>> Anyone ever tell you you're an evil genius? :) Maybe you should learn to draw (unless you already know how and haven't told us? ^_^); you'd make a brilliant political cartoonist...<pictures a C-Span mod for Unreal Tournament, complete with White House maps and player character skins of Charleton Heston, Bob Dole, the Catholic Schoolgirl Scouts, and Rev. Attila in a techsuit> <<Does anyone know what has become of Zath?>> I've been wondering that myself; I miss her and that evil little Kitty...

Archwolf> <<"Interditor-Breaker" Hyperspace motivators>> <blink> How would that work? Interdictors work by fooling the ship's safety interlocks into thinking they're approaching a gravity well; the engines cut out to prevent catastrophic course deviation (see http://www.theforce.net/swtc/hyperspace.html)...but then, I'm probably just not thinking; I do that a lot. ;P <<The problem i have with the T/D is that it seems like it is a "Super Ship".>> Which was exactly what Sienar Fleet Systems had in mind during the design phase. ;)

Aaron> <<H-fest proved it's at least good for a laugh, especially when badly dubbed.>> Hm...X-rated MST3K, I think you once called it? Well, MSTing can improve anything; look at Mara's treatment of Matt Watson's stuff. ;)

Patrick> <<by all means, don't confine flames of NAMBLA to this room. Visit them at their lovely website at nambla.org (yes, that exists, too... lord only knows how they keep the FBI from shutting them down), and let the fires burn in earnest.>> And I know a very good anonymous remailer or two...<chilling laughter>

Jenna> Work rant> Ack... O_o' Not sure how I can help, except to express my hope that things improve, and fast...<<can I have a count of who is going to the gathering this year???>> I'll be in the Orlando area--in Disney World itself, actually--but, and this just figures, I won't be there anywhere near the date of the Gathering. >:(

Doug> <<Particularly like David G's "Fanfiction" idea, as I might be able to contribute to it. Can't help but wonder how continuity would be handled on that show, though, it's likely to have so many different plots and episodes nobody could keep up with all of it.>> Perhaps it could be an 'anthology' series, like Tales From The Crypt or The Twilight Zone?

Fire Storm> <<Don't worry. They are the type that can't figure out the simplest how to sex book.>> Thank the stars...although it could be done anyhow, as a disciplinary action. >;)

Shadowrider> <<I'm quite feverish, last night I and some friends went out with the bikes to a disco a 100 km far from our town...and on the way home we took a shower (quite common in summer nights here, we were supposed to expect it...). This morning (well, it was about 11...not properly morning...) I woke with a 39° (centigrade!) and I still have...>> Ack! O_O' Get well soon...Poem> Very cool. ^_^

Mary Flanders> <<They see a girl in a bikini and they turn into drooling idiots! ;P>> So I've noticed...I've never really understood that. O_o

Emambu> Welcome back! :D

Warpmind> <<What havoc was wreaked upon the CR in my absence? ;)>> The CR blew up and we all died. But the universe wasn't done with us yet, so everything went back to normal. <<dunno, I just don't like the Missile Boat much... probably the fact that it's an Assault gunboat modification; I always preferred the TIE series.>> I prefer TIEs myself, although I like any Cygnus Spaceworks design a close second. ^_^ I love their shuttle and landing craft designs, and the Gunboat and Missile Boat are very similar...In fact, in the Windows 9x version of TIE Fighter (Collector's Edition; used the same engine as X-Wing vs TIE Fighter), they used a much more detailed and texture-mapped version of the Missile Boat that looks very much like a shuttlecraft. ^_^ <<maybe I ought to have some modifications done to my TIE/D?>> Or better--upgrade. :) [Wilek produces a holographic projector, which emits an image of what could be mistaken for the offspring of a TIE and a Klingon Bird Of Prey.] Meet the TIE Seraphim. The armament is more or less identical to the Defender's, but this fighter is 20% faster and has a cloaking device and a sustained-beam weapon (similar to a phaser or the like), great for capitol ships. Have fun. ;)

SRS Jr.> <<I've had suspicions that someone using AOL access has been pulling something like what I accused you of doing, but so far I haven't been able to nail him/her/them down to a positive ID. They've been ripping on TGS for some time now - mostly due to my involvement in the project - and I and a few others want to expose this person and keep them from hamstringing the project. It's really affected morale in a few people, myself included...>> <grr> How would you like this person to die?

DJ> Reference Desk questions> OMG... :O

Mecord> <<But even if I don’t have a stereo my mind continually plays music in my head.>> That's a relief; I thought I was the only one that happened to. :)

Brooklyn> <<I thought about having fully downloadable episodes on Winterwolf's and my site. The episodes would be put up upon request. So if there's that episode you just can't seem to catch maybe I'm your man! I'd like some feedback on this.>> Do you have enough space for the entire first and second seasons of Gargoyles? :)

Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 02:45:13 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Hey guys one quick thought.

Are ya tired of short video clips? Ever wanna watch your favorite episode while your talking to someone? Well maybe you can. I thought about having fully downloadable episodes on Winterwolf's and my site. The episodes would be put up upon request. So if there's that episode you just can't seem to catch maybe I'm your man! I'd like some feedback on this. So let me know!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 02:27:28 AM
IP: usr57.cqc.com

hehe...forgot something
Mec>Feed the werewolves? I told ya, it was self-defense! Sheesh, eat one little elf, and you are branded for life....

Archwolf
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 01:29:47 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-32.mcmurray.nb.net

*Archwolf stumbles in, looking exhausted. When he sees the huge box of cigars courtesy of Warpmind, he runs out the CR door. He returns moments later with a very LARGE bottle of Glenlevitt.* Now were cookin' with gas!

Mec>Glad to see ya back! I hear ya on those long days in the department stores. Last year I worked at Sears, and I had to put in a few LOOOOOONNNNNNNNG days. Feel ya on the knees, too. The fic: Well, when ya get done, you know where ta send it if ya still need a proofer.

Warpmind>Don't make me toss a thermal detinator into your T/D's missle magazine. Seriously, the T/D is a sound ship. I just feel more at home in an X-Wing (though when on the rare occaison when I _do_ fly imp-mobiles, I prefere to fly the Interceptor.) I like the XW's overall abilities. The problem i have with the T/D is that it seems like it is a "Super Ship". I mean, for the sim, it is great, but other than that...I dunno. Stackpole used it in the last X-Wing series book, but he had it a bit more 'down to Couscant' if you will. Oh well, maybe it is just my 'Rebel Scum' roots showing through.
*pours a double Glenlivett and offers it to Warpmind, then takes and lights a cigar, as well as pouring himself a double.* Truce?

**TD EP Re-review**
RtP Authors>In general, I did think RtP1 was a good ep. I tink I was one of the few who did think seeing into the council was good. It was very well written, and I think it hinted at a bit of inter-clan tension (Tribe Caledonia, I think it was). The only thing with it was that it really didn't seem to do _enough_. I know it was only part one, and I hope we get to see more of the council's inner working. earlier I rated the ep at 6/10, but I think after the entire ep is done, I will just rate the whole thing as one ep, instead of rating the parts as individual eps. Part of the reason I had rated it as I did was that I had these grand idea of what _I_ thought it should be, and lets face it, no matter how well written or by who, if a person has such a pre-conception, they won't accept anything less than what they have dreamed up. It just seemed too prologue-ish (like Path of Daggers, WoT Book 8 if you know what I mean). And again, like most eps this season, it seemed so darn short. Oh well. Realy really looking forward to the next ep.
**End re-review type thing**

*Sees many many newbie, and attacks them all with the Sanity Sucker.* Eh. Another low-yeild batch.

Damn. I gotta run. I still have much web-page development to do tonight for the Salle d'Arms before I can rack out.

In Ferro Verite (Jeeze, i hope I spelled that correctly)
Shade and Sweet Water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 01:25:09 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-32.mcmurray.nb.net

Welcome Tony!

Hi everyone. How are you? Me? I'm doing much better. YEA!

I should be online tomorrow on and off all day. For those who are inrerested. Well I'm going to try and get sleep now.

Good night.

Janine - [Purple_Pixy@hotmail.com]
Mesa, Az
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 01:06:30 AM
IP: phx-211.treknet.net

After a long night of patroling Brooklyn stops by the CR. It's not long until sunrise so he can't stay long.

Hello everyone,
Here be a few quick posts.
<Winterwolf>
What email? If you need something I get back to you. Maybe I forgot.Check back with me.
<Janine>
Talk to you later.
<Rodlox>
Check your mail.
<Emambu>
You're welcome.:) Gotta love caramel.

To everyone who has read part 1, thank you!
To those who have not, please do!

That's all until the sun goes down my friends.

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:50:54 AM
IP: usr57.cqc.com

**Mecord drops through the sky light and lands in a crumpled heap on the CR floor**

Oops, long day. Forgot to add the post to my post. :)

Man, eleven hour shifts is a long time to be on your feet running around a department store. At least I get paid, but my knee started to bother me. That worries me a little because it’s never pained quite this way. Vacuuming for two hours straight every morning doesn’t help it much either. Lately I’ve been feverish to finish my story. That’s why I haven’t been around as much you see. Between work and the approximate two hours of computer time I have each day, all I’ve had time for is a brief lurk or two. I am getting steadily closer to the end of my story which lies beyond another fifteen pages or so. Then about three days of intensive editing…. Well, I’ll let everyone know.

DJ>> Nice Reference Q’s. :)

Sorow>> Sorry I haven’t replied to your latest e-mail message. Time constraints and all. Don’t worry, I may be slow, but I have in mind to maintain a correspondence.

I feel I’ve been gone so long and there’s been so much happening I don’t know where to start. Here’s a few I’ve noticed.

Life’s soundtrack>> My life does have a sound track (doesn’t everybody?). I always have to have music of some kind playing in the background. My stories are the same way. I should post a list of songs with each story in order they are to be played and during what scenes they correspond with. For an assignment once I recorded a story of mind on tape with music in the background. It made quite the impact. As to what kind of music, it depends on the mood of life’s scene. I sample from many artists though I generally avoid most rap and country. There are exceptions of course. But even if I don’t have a stereo my mind continually plays music in my head. Like right now I am hearing a ghostly echo of a Soundgarden song, I forget the name, but it’s track 15 on the Down on the Upside CD. Funny how I can always remember the track and CD but never the song. Oh well, now I’m just rambling.

Caliope>> If I ever see another bumper sticker like it again I’ll buy it for you. :)

New people>> Wow, lurk for a week and look who all I miss. I don’t even know who all has come in but welcome all. I’m Mecord the elf. Don’t feed the Werewolves (I think they prefer to hunt, so walk, don’t run, when their hungry ;)

And finally

*****THE RP*****
A news reporter and his camera crew hide upon the crest of a hill just beyond the battle field where Earth’s heroes battle Four.
“…It seems as if this ‘Four’ has taken everything these warriors have to offer and keeps coming back for more. It certainly is our hope that more of Earth’s warriors will soon come to our aid and rid the planet from this thre… AHHH…”
The scream is cut off by a surgical explosion. Aimed in such a way that the combatants would not see. A man dressed in a crimson tunic inspects his handiwork.
“Earth’s warriors indeed. I could wipe this insolent ‘Four’ from existence. But so could you my nemesis, would you but show your true nature. The eyes of the world are now turned away, the conditions are nearly right, and when you finally come to win this battle, so-called Mecord, I will bring you forth and crush you as I would have on Magia if you had not cheated me from my power.”
The man wandered off, prowling for any more news crews, and stroking a blue gem roughly the size of a basketball.
*****END OF THIS FORESHADOWING RP*****

Mecord
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:29:43 AM
IP: usr34.mtwest.net

...
Mecord
Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:28:19 AM
IP: usr34.mtwest.net

All right, two Daniels posting with the same color right after each other is just too much, so I'm going to try another color. Oh, and here's some more funny stuff. I can't remember if I've seen these here before. :P

Weird Library Reference Questions

These are actual reference queries reported by American and
Canadian library reference desk workers of various levels. No kidding.

"Do you have books here?"

"Do you have a list of all the books written in the English language?"

"Do you have a list of all the books I've ever read?"

"I'm looking for Robert James Waller's book, 'Waltzing through Grand
Rapids'." (Actual title wanted: "Slow Waltz in Cedar Bend.")

"Do you have that book by Rushdie: 'Satanic Nurses'?" (Actual title:
"Satanic Verses")

"Where is the reference desk?" This was asked of a person sitting at
a desk who had, hanging above her head, a sign saying
"REFERENCE DESK"!

"I was here about three weeks ago looking at a cookbook that cost
$39.95. Do you know which one it is?"

"Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer?"

"Can you tell me why so many famous Civil War battles were fought
on National Park sites?"

"Do you have any books with photographs of dinosaurs?"

"I need a color photograph of George Washington [Christopher
Columbus, King Arthur, Moses, Socrates, etc.]"

"I need a photocopy of Booker T. Washington's birth certificate."

"I need to find out Ibid's first name for my bibliography."

"Why don't you have any books by Ibid? He's written a lot of
important stuff."

"I'm looking for information on carpal tunnel syndrome. I think I'm
having trouble with it in my neck."

"Is the basement upstairs?" (Asked at First Floor Reference Desk)

"I am looking for a list of laws that I can break that would send me
back to jail for a couple of months."

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 10:46:45 PM
IP: ppp-29.rb5.exit109.com

Hey all :)

Bronx> *HUGZ back* Thanx! I hope I get over this soon! :)

Doug> <<camp>> Thanx! And I did have fun, so did the kids I hope :)

Gside> Ah, sorry, I must have missed that, I've kindda been zooming throgh latly :)

Emambu> Thanx for the get well wishes! You have an interesting name, is Mambu your real last name? Oh, and welcome back! :)

Winterwolf> Well, I'm feeling relativly better, but not good yet :P <<Okay well I don't get on the little kid rides anymore because I'm too tall.>> HA! an advantege to being short finaly! :P A friend of mine was bugging me the other day about me being short. I'm not short! He's tall! There's a diference! He's like 6'1 or something and I'm 5'6, I dont think I'm that short tho, concidering I'm latina :P << I have a car and a license>> A car AND a license!? You show off! ;P Its good to know tho! I've never stayed in NY long enough to play turist. I did go to niagara falls once and stoped at the air port a zillian times, but thats about it :P

OK, I should get going, I'll see ya guys! *HUGZ and GONE**

Caliope
Monday, June 26, 2000 10:33:38 PM
IP: 196-28-48-101.prtc.net

Ok I just wondered. I am not good at drawing or story writing but I could help with the web site. If you don't mind take a look at my site and see whatcha think. I would love to help out with the site.

Send me a email if you would like to chat more about it please :)

Knoxville - [Knoxville@gotoworld.com]
Nashville, Arkansas, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 10:28:19 PM
IP: asnsh1-2.cswnet.com

KNOXVILLE AND TONY - We're working on the Main Cycle, we really are. It's just that, at the moment, we're incredibly short-staffed (most of the members for the first two seasons have left by now, and the current staff often suffers from computer crashes and RL necessities that keep us from devoting as much time to the project as we'd like; we have the disadvantage of being able to do this only during our spare time, where the original production team under Greg Weisman was doing it for a living). All that we can do is repeat that we will get it out when we can; it's just that at the moment, we've had a considerable amount of crises.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, June 26, 2000 10:14:43 PM
IP: 216.87.46.204.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hey guys. Im new here, I just stumble upon it yesterday. I love the stories you have here! Excellent writing I must say. I was also wondering when the 3rd season was going to start.
Tony - [down right now]
columbus, ohio, usa
Monday, June 26, 2000 09:50:01 PM
IP: dover-216-196-38-162.raex.com

Does anyone know when the Season Premeir of Gargoyles on The Gargoyles Saga will be posted. they are currently posting the Time Dancer eps but i would love to know when the Gargoyles eps will be posted again.
Knoxville - [Knoxville@gotoworld.com]
Nashville, Arkansas, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 08:31:59 PM
IP: asnsh1-2.cswnet.com

Winterwolf, just sent the email. I will be laying off posting BFTS RP for a few days (including today).

Chess - I have more experience playing Othello/Reversi. I have met some of the best players on the internet. I usually beat most players though. That is not bragging, just a fact. When I buy a new PC, look out Othello players, because dph_of_rules, friend_of_rules, king_of_rules, prince_of_rules, or rey_de_reglamento might be showing up to win a few games and work his way back up in a few days.

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 26, 2000 07:45:34 PM
IP: max1-68.cwy.cei.net

Grinz:
Welcome to the Den of Insanity. :)
----
Quick note:
Has anyone been having trouble getting in here recently? Around 6:30 EDT all of WyvernWeb was inaccessible to me. No DNS entry. I suspect a router problem, in which case access could be erratic for some people for a while. Anyway, I'm still mirroring the CR on my web site. Later.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 06:52:06 PM
IP: ppp-03.rb5.exit109.com

Health news:> I'm very better today. A day of rest makes miracles. I think I'll be all right tomorrow. Thanks to everyone wished me quick healing.

Daniel Johnson:> Funny quotings! I had already heard some, but most of them were new to me. I do admit I, too, had some doubts about that last one - I thought you lied to us about your age! But I see you already clarifie that point...;)

Niamhgold:> Check your email, please! :) Oh, glad you like my soundtrack...I forgot to mention the Cranberries and Enya...
<<You can always find someone who's willing to work harder, because there's plenty of us out there!>> Hmmm...WHY this phrase sounds so familiar to me? :\

Emambu:> (BTW, may I ask you where does your nickname come from?) about your beach episode...I can tell you I had similar experience, and I heard several others here in the CR. I find in it nothing strange...as I watched Gargoyles the first time, I was already legally adult, but I loved it the same, and I still love it.

Grinz:> (If I may call you this way) Welcome here! I, for sure, don't mind you hang in here, rather the opposite. And about rambling...don't worry, it doesn't disturb me...

Warpmind:> Welcome back! <<What havoc was wreaked upon the CR in my absence?>> Well...on a quick count...two earthquakes, a cyclon, a meteor rainfall, a few alien invasions, a couple of minor wars, a convention of lawyers and a visit by Bill Gates...

Winterwolf:> Glad you liked that piece of poetry, I'll tell to Nicola, the friend of mine who wrote it, he'll be glad to know. Indeed, it is a dark one, and was intended this way, Nicola wrote it some years ago, and he considers it one of his most sincere ones.
About another thing, you once mentioned you play chess, if I remember well. Just today I had a match with my girlfriend...did you ever notice that, although chess is a very subtle game, some victories (and defeats) can be tremendously brutal?

Good night, CR!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milano, Italy
Monday, June 26, 2000 05:56:15 PM
IP: h213-47-26.mi2.albacom.net

**Winterwolf beams brightly when he sees SOROW.**

This post is all about email.

I think something may be wrong with my email. :(

SOROW> Did you get my email? I sent you one. :)

Brooklyn> Did you send that email with your fanfic? I haven't gotten it yet. :(

DPH> email me please. We need to go over the RP dialog. :)

**Winterwolf exits to check his email**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, June 26, 2000 04:09:00 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

Not much been going on here, just going to work and vegging out. My senior pictures are scheduled on Wednesday and I'm hoping they'll be okay. I'm also preparing for football season next year since I have to pic out all the band music we dance to. *sigh* What summer?

Grinz> Welcome to our clan and stay as long as you like.

SOROW
Monday, June 26, 2000 03:42:35 PM
IP: dll2a010-0617.splitrock.net

Greetings all...

JOXTER - Well, let's try not to go overboard here... which is what it seems I did (been getting irritable lately, mostly due to the fact my daughter has been in another state for over a week, but that's another day's story...), but first let me clear the air here...

First off, don't you DARE stop with your critiques, even if I have even a small part in producing any story TGS comes out with. It's been a long while since I've had a negative review, so I sort of reacted badly when it came around to your review of "Return to Paradise 1"... it just goes to show I have a while to go before I have Brooklyn's "voice" and character down enough to where I can write him in a story and have it come out good enough.

As far as the quality content, well that's been debated recently by those parties involved in making the story... I won't go into details, but suffice to say one of the parties had to maintain, but it was just a case of not enough communication between certain parties.

I also apologise for my remarks about you not being who you are... I've had suspicions that someone using AOL access has been pulling something like what I accused you of doing, but so far I haven't been able to nail him/her/them down to a positive ID. They've been ripping on TGS for some time now - mostly due to my involvement in the project - and I and a few others want to expose this person and keep them from hamstringing the project. It's really affected morale in a few people, myself included...

Also, I agree I don't want this fanned into a flame war, or any other trouble arising from this... let's just boil it down to a case of my nerves and bad reaction, and leave it at that. After all, I appreciate ALL feedback on my work, no matter if it's good or bad... it's just that my track record in the past has been on the "good" side of things... :)

Apology accepted?


Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 01:49:26 PM
IP: m27.ieway.com

**Winterwolf enters the CR wincing as he's been sunburned. A puffy cloud follows him overhead dropping powdery snow to cool him down.**

I'm back from my weekend romp! I'm sunburned here and there but I don't think it is too bad. I had enough sense to hide from the sun when I saw I was turning a little red. If we had only gone to the store to get the sun tan lotion like I suggested this would have never happened. At least the other friends I was with got roasted too. Well misery loves company. Okay that makes sound like a bad weekend, but I had a really good time! My tennis skills have improved. I can get to the ball more often now, if I can only control my erratic swings I'd be all set. ^_^

Janine> <chat> I had fun chatting with you, Brooklyn and Gasper too. We'll have to do it again sometime. :) <pic> Thanks. You look great in this picture. Having fun with the dolphin? <ice cream> **Winterwolf gets a pint of strawberry ice cream with real strawberries in it for Janine. He puts it in the freezer and places a label on it that says "To: Janine".

Gasper> It sounds like you aren't going to be around here much. :( You'll be missed. Have a great summer! Hopefully you'll stop by from time to time.

Niamhgold> <graphic designer> No, but that would be really cool! I love working with graphics. To answer your question I'm a web developer. Hmm, now that that's out everyone's expectations might just skyrocket. I work on the FOX website. Including but not limited to thesimpsons.com, fox.com, foxnews.com and foxsports.com. <email> Got your email. I definitely love to get email too! ;) I have more email that I'll send you later. I finished "What Sorcery Is This?" Guess you know what part of the email will be about now. <music> If I had to pick music to express me I would have to say it would be erratic. No one music defines me and it is something that is constantly changing and evolving. Like a psychedelic poster filled with different colors and patterns. I tend to like at least some part of almost any song. I'm easy to travel with in a car that way. **Winterwolf happily eats his cookies.** ^_^

Caliope> Hey are you feeling better? I hope you are. <sick in pools> :p Actually the last time I was in a wave pool was years ago and it was just a really rough wave pool. I've gotten sick on boats a couple of times on boats before, but I haven't had motion sickness lately. I haven't gotten sick on amusement park rides yet and I get on everything and anything! Okay well I don't get on the little kid rides anymore because I'm too tall. ;) <PR> Okay I'll definitely let you know next time I'm in PR. Unfortunately it won't be happening this year. :( I have to travel to a few weddings this year and will be hanging out in Florida in August for the Gathering. You know if you happen to come by New York, I could drive you around. I have a car and a license. :)

Jenna> I've seen this with my sister and one of her friends. I don't understand it when it happens, but fortunately I don't see it happen very often. Maybe I'm just oblivious to some of it? **sigh** I'm hoping that your work environment gets better. <Gathering> I'm going!

Joe Boxer> Hi. What have you been up to lately? Having a good summer so far?

Spicebabie> Ouch! Hope your foot is feeling better.

Shadowrider> Hope you feel better. <vampires> Exceptional! I enjoyed the whole thing. Even if it was a dark piece.

Grinz (Female Brooklyn)> Welcome to the CR! <Harvard or Yale?> Well I'd say Harvard just because of location and one of my best friends went there and loved it. Honestly though I believe it depends on what you are looking to do. Each one has strengths based on what you'd like to study. :)

Emambu> <Gargoyles> Once I manage to get over the initial feeling of awkwardness I find I can talk for hours on this subject. A similar experience of my own was when I was sitting in my room and heard from my 2nd story dorm room window to people talking about the show. I figured they talk for a few minutes tops but they kept on talking longer than a half an hour so I had to get in on the conversation myself.

******WARNING BFTS - RP******

Winterwolf thought he noticed something in the tone of DPH's voice. He was concerned for the briefest moment that this might not be DPH. He reassured himself that it was DPH based on his scent. "Of course. You know I think you are right we need to discuss some things. You also have a valid point about DC and Netlag."

DPH frowned when as he saw the channeling of magical energy stop.

******END WARNING BFTS - RP******

Bye everybody!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:31:37 PM
IP: 206.15.122.13

DPH enters the room and sees DC running away. DPH decides to practice a new mega-lightning attack on DC. DC is still conscious but looks horrible. DPH then pulls out a drill and starts drilling holes in DC's teeth. Then DPH catches DC's hair on fire. Afterwards, DPH puts headphones on DC's ears and turns up the volume to levels that would cause hearing loss. That is for not allowing me to login last night for 1 hour.

Sheash, you are right; the logical people find some of the rest of the world confusing. I know a college campus where the place you pay for tutition is 2 blocks away from where you get scholarships.

**No BFTS RP today from me**

DPH (Daniel Paul Hightower) - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Monday, June 26, 2000 11:20:14 AM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

*Warpmind enters, waving the keys to his TIE Defender casually.*
Well, it's back from the shop, guys. ;)

Shadowrider: It's good to be back! What havoc was wreaked upon the CR in my absence? ;)

Wilek: Yeah, I consider the Missile Boat slow - I dunno, I just don't like the Missile Boat much... probably the fact that it's an Assault gunboat modification; I always preferred the TIE series. Besides, why would I settle for a craft with 2X40 missiles and a single, wimpy laser cannon, when I can have a craft with a dozen Advanced Proton Torpedoes, four lasers and a pair of ion cannons, and more power to boot? (Gotta love the tractor beam, right?) :)

Kitania: Never fear; what has been keeping me away has been a) a working trip to Lanzarote for one week, and b) no net access from my own PC; I've been at the mercy of the library's less-than-reliable connection, but tomorrow I'll be posting from my father's machine. :)

Archwolf: I didn't what, you say? *Places a HUGE case of cigars on the table; upper middle class Spanish cigars, all of them.* Better now? :) Oh, and that X-Wing of yours... maybe I ought to have some modifications done to my TIE/D? ]:)

Heck, there was more to say, but I'm out of time. Bye.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, June 26, 2000 10:47:16 AM
IP: mp-217-199-50.daxnet.no

Gside:
A slip of the finger can be so dangerous... :)
<<Is there something you're not telling us?>>
Hey, I'm not THAT old! ;) Besides, I'm just repeating what I got from a friend. (heh, almost typed 'fiend' there. Maybe that would be more apropos?)
----
Mary:
You're right that we of the male persuasion do suffer from that, and it is pretty funny sometimes, but believe it or not some of us actually DO have self-control. It's rare, I know, but occasionally you find it. ;) And sorry about the jerk. Why do so many guys act like that? Why don't they see that it's wrong? Am I from another planet or something, that I can't understand such male behavior?
----
Janine:
Speaking of which, that guy you told us about sounds like an even bigger jerk. What the heck is wrong with these idiots? I could really go off on this subject, so I'll stop now. Anyway, good luck.
----
Jannie:
Others have said it, but congratulations for your son! As for your other problem, I think that your son is proof that you're a good parent; whatever you do, don't blame yourself. We're all responsible for our own actions. Take care.
----
Starsinger:
Have fun spoiling your new niece rotten! :)
----
Emambu:
RE: Twain quote
He sure did say a lot of sensible things like that, didn't he?

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 07:01:57 AM
IP: ppp-39.rb5.exit109.com

*Fire Storm enters the CR and empties a clip from his Pulsed Plasma Mini-Gun into DC*

THAT is for my modems not working...

*Fire Storm sprays DC with Napalm then throws a match at him*

THAT'S for making PCAnywhere kill my Windows 2000...

*Fire Storm calls in the gals from Chorus Line to dance on DC's smoldering ashes*

THAT's because I am mad!

DC is giving me one helluva time this year. There arn't enough ways to kill him...


Emambu:<Maybe we'll swap horror stories one day>
Word of warning... I have problems about once every 3 months.

More post later
*Fire Storm pulls out a knife and pricks his finger and allows some of his acidic blood drip onto the remainder of DC's ashes*

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, June 26, 2000 04:11:54 AM
IP: 1cust167.tnt1.det3.da.uu.net

*Emambu enters after his long absence.*

Wow, it is good to be back. On my last message I mentioned that I would be in Delaware on the beach for the entire week, but I still got a message on this board as well as two e-mails asking where I was. I feel so... special. :)

Hmm... after going through the last eight days of posts I see that I've missed a lot of things, including a new TD episode and several fanfics that I want to read (and a lot of interesting topics to boot). I guess I might as well try and get started.

Brooklyn: Thanks for the inquiry as to my whereabouts. I didn't bring back any brownies with me, but I did buy enough pounds of caramel to bury the CR. I hope that will be an appropriate substitute :). BTW, I downloaded your story, but I won't be able to send you my comments on it until tomorrow as it's very late right now. However, I did skim it a bit and what I saw looked really good.

To whoever gave me the shakespeare link a while back: Thank you.

Fire Storm: Good luck with your computer. I'm going through similar problems (different symptoms but the end result is that the machine doesn't work) so I can understand where you're coming from. Maybe we'll swap horror stories one day. :)

Caliope: I hope you're feeling better.

Jackal: Hi, you must have returned while I was gone, so this is just a friendly newbie hello.

Warpmind: I didn't know you were gone either (for obvious reasons) but I'm glad to see that you're back

Rodlox: Before I left I did say that I would read your latest story and then e-mail you comments when I got back. However, since your story's been out for so long I was wondering if you still wanted comments. It doesn't matter to me either way since I'm an unofficial editor of submitted stories at another site that I go to.

Jannie: A belated congrats on your sons success.

Daniel Johnson: I've always liked Mark Twain's quote: "It is better to appear stupid and say nothing then to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Of course, I'm paraphrasing a little, but it's still one of my favorites.

Life Soundtrack: That's kind of hard. I guess I'd just go with my favorite songs that reflect moods that I've been in throughout my life...

"Fire and Rain" (James Taylor)
"Cats in the Cradle" (Harry Chapin)
"Your Song" (Elton John)
"Higher Ground" (Stevie Wonder)
"In my Life" (Beatles)
"My Generation" (The Who)
"Carolina in my Mind" (James Taylor)
"Piano Man" (Billy Joel)
"Fight for your Right" (Beastie Boys)

That's all I think of right now, but I'm sure there are others.

Lastly, just general comments about what I did last week: Firstly, I finally saw "Galdiator," which I thought was amazing. I also saw Titan A.E. whoch I thought was good... not great, but good. I'd go into more detail but it seems that everything I want to say about both movies has already been covered here. I also walked away with a nice tan. This confused several people because, when I tan, I look hispanic but I'm really Italian. Then I bring my six years of studying spanish into play, and I start talking to them in Spanish, confusing them even more. It was fun reading their expressions. I'm still trying to figure out whether I'm malicious or whether I need a new hobby. :)

Finally, I didn't spend an entire week on the beach and not walk away without a story. I thought this was kind of interesting. I'm not sure if all of you will feel the same way, but I thought it was kind of cool at the time that this happened:

It was late Firday afyernoon and I was walking down the boardwalk near the beach one last time since I was leaving for Philadelphia the next morning and it would be a while before I came back. I had traversed half of the walk when I noticed a mother and her daughter, who couldn't have been more then 10 years old, coming up form the opposite direction. That in itself wasn't surprising at all but then I saw that the daughter was holding a doll in her hand that looked exactly like Angela. It was designed crudely in a few spots, I guessed that it was home-made, but the resemblance was unmistakable. I'm not sure why I was interested but I followed the mother and daughter to a hot dog stand nearby. After a minute I worked up enough nerve and I pretended to casually notice the doll. The mother saw this so I asked her where she got it. She told me that she made for her daughter because she really liked the show, "Gargoyles." She told me that she would occasionally watch it with her daughter because she thought that, for a cartoon, it did a great job trying to educate as well as entertain young audiences. Then she asked me if I ever watched the show. Well, one thing led to another, and the three of us were having a casual conversion, in the middle of the line, about "Gargoyles," like three people talking about the weather or sports. We didn't dwell on our disappointment over the cancellation of the show. Instead we talked about the plots to the individual episodes. We talked about the longer running themes like the story arcs of Brooklyn and Xanatos. We also talked about the life lessons that the show tried to teach. The big reoccuring theme was tolerance. Other incuded trust, the misuse of guns, and family unity. The funny thing was that the adults in front of and behind me were nodding their heads in agreement while we talked, as if they were listening and understanding (in other words, as if they also used to watch the show). The was especially evident during our discussions of tolerance and how big of a role it played. Afterwards, I ordered my food and the mother offered to make me a figurine of Brooklyn since I had earlier said that he was my favorite character. I politely declined because I had to head home in less then 24 hours, but I thanked her anyway and the three of us departed.

Now, I'm not sure what the morale is to this. I guess I just found it odd (in a good way) that pretty much the entire line was listening, and agreeing, to our conversation about a show that is supposed to be for younger kids. I'm not trying to say that adults don't understand cartoons since there are several adults in this CR. I myself will be an adult, legally, soon enough. I guess it was just the experience that made that moment stick out in my mind and make me want to share this with all of you.


---Emambu






Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 02:08:37 AM
IP: spider-to044.proxy.aol.com

Stephen Sobotka- I've waited a couple days to post this, because it seems to me you needed to calm down, and I needed to calm down myself after you basically accused me of intentionally seeking you out and slamming just your work on Return to Paradise. I had originally intended to come in here guns ablazing screaming out "What the hell are you accusing me for?" I then realized that was not the proper course of action. I talked to a couple of people who knew you to try and figure out why you accused me of having a vendetta against you. Now I think I understand why you thought what you did, but umm... I had no way of knowing what parts of the story you worked on, I just called it as I saw it. If every scene I pointed out as "Not as good as usual" was yours, then well, you did like 80 percent of the story and have most of the responsibility for the quality then anyway, right? If it felt to you like I was slamming you, I'm sorry, it was nothing against you but the story itself. After last week's excellent Ruby Eyes with its good illustrations, this weeks episode, one we'd been waiting so long to see, (since the end of season two. Well, I wasn't here at the actual end of season 2, but you get the idea.) But basically, the story did not seem to match up. The single illustration was not nearly as good, and the jokes seemed out of place as did a lot of the scenes and character personalities. I thought I'd offer more in depth thoughts and criticisms on how it could have been improved than usual because I thought this story called for it, not seeming up to usual TGS standards to me. (Or maybe RUby Eyes last week just spoiled me, I do not know for sure.) Lots of other people agreed with me on many of my points, while others thought the story was quite good despite them. My opinion of the story was my opinion, and if it hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. WHile I've been posting to both CR's for about 3 months now, I only recently started critiquing the stories as I've only recently started to understand that my opinion on the stories would be appreciated. (Especially when its one of the first ones in .) I'm sorry if you think I have some sort of vendetta against you. I have nothing against you, mister Ordell, or mister Brevard, I just thought Return to Paradise part 1 wasn't that good.

In the future I'll refrain from giving my opinion on any stories you work on, so you do not get upset because of my opinion, and do not accuse me of being someone I'm not. My name honestly *IS* Joxter, (My middle name anyway...) I live in Minneapolis Minnesota and I work at a comic store (full time now that I'm through with my Junior year of college.) I'm a real person and I do not appreciate you saying I'm someone else posting under a fake name in an attempt to get at you. (Pretty damn elaborate posting for a quarter of a year just to build up to this week's story if that WAS the case, don't you think?) I'll keep posting here, I just won't critique TGS stories you write. Will that be all right? I don't want a conflict here and want to avoid a flame war at all costs...

And now I have other things to respond to, but later...

Joxter
Monday, June 26, 2000 01:45:33 AM
IP: spider-we022.proxy.aol.com

OK, that was a very bad typo. That was just not good. It should have been "summer."

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 26, 2000 01:31:27 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Cummer course number two begins for me tomorrow. Here's to a good start towards an internet certificate (one more piece of paper to add to the stack awaiting me at the end of my travails).

**IRON CHEF SPOILER**And for those of you who didn't catch it, the Iron Chef defeated Bobby Flay. And with all Americans on the judging staff, too. And why did they have to show that kid so much?

Shadowrider> May you have a rapid recovery.

Daniel Johnson> Quite the amusing list. I would say that I provide a nice contrast to the real world. In both ways (I do think I am somewhat adept at straight logic, although I will admid to being an oddboy).
<<I have found at my age going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of my face>>: Is there something you're not telling us?

Niamhgold> <<I knew the life soundtrack idea would be one you'd adhere to>>: Well, I have only been putting up songs I like, so it's easy for me. Though I would say one song I really should keep in mind more often is Life Has Been Good to Me, by Randy Newman. Plus it is a really good song.
<<maybe it's just simply because my mom's a dance choreographer and it's rubbed off on me>>: Hey, I've been in Band and Marching Band, and those *really* warp you. I can't walk with someone else without being in step.

Grinz> <<Where's better, Havard or YAle?>>: MIT.
Just so you know, I am currently the resident nerd/geek/techboy.

CtB> May you and your mother enjoy better luck in the future.

Mary Flanders> <<I find the combination of males and sex to be incredibly hilarious>>: Thank you. That boosts my confidence so much.
<<They see a girl in a bikini and they turn into drooling idiots!>>: And you don't find that the least bit complementary?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 26, 2000 01:29:49 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hi!
jacKal
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:48:26 AM
IP: ac98cffd.ipt.aol.com

Top Something!
Kitainia
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:39:28 AM
IP: pool-207-205-144-205.dlls.grid.net

Top Ten!

Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:31:07 AM
IP: il56c338.info-link.net

Top Ten 6th!!!^_^
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:28:13 AM
IP: usr88.cqc.com

5th
Archwolf
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:19:41 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-02.mcmurray.nb.net

4th!!!
Peter
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:18:07 AM
IP: dial-145.ocis.net

Top 10! ^_^
Wilek
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:15:35 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

Third! Heh.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@exit109.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:15:15 AM
IP: ppp-43.rb5.exit109.com

2nd

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:08:49 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Top Ten!! First! ^_^
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, June 26, 2000 12:07:36 AM
IP: nycma010-0617.splitrock.net