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<Shadowrider enters wearing a chain mail, carrying a two-handed sword with some stones set in it; the sword leans on his right shoulder. In his left hand, he carries a big and deformed head, still dripping blood. Some of the dwellers recognize it as the demon Andariel's head. Shadowrider shows the head around and asks:"Does anyone need a nick-nack?">

A pathetic attemp of humor, isn't it? Oh, well, here it is 2,10 am, so I think I'm allowed to be a bit blurred...
I just finished Act I of Diablo II. Andariel was not that match for Lupo Grigio, my paladin. I hope the other demons will be a bit better...

Here we are having the hottest days of this summer. This afternoon we had a 40° C, with a 60% of humidity. In days like these, I feel to send a devoted thought to the unknown genius who created the air conditioning...

Just a couple of replies...

Gside:> Thank you for the correction. <<There goes my theory of engineers being equivalent with spell slingers. >> I don't know the other engineers, but I use to rely only on the cold, hard, sharp steel...;)

Warpmind:> Yes, I follow you...it is the oldest objection to the project of European Union. I'm not an economist, so I can't explain it well, but I think the objection is unfounded. As a first thing, the current politic of EU is to allow entrance in the Euro only to those countries who can sustain it (we Italians know it well...), so there will not be "Poor" countries relying on richer ones. Furthermore I think that an easier circulation of people, goods and money in such a wide and rich reality as Europe, will give substantial benefits not only to poorer countries, but also to the richest ones. I hope I'm explaining myself...
Why do we tend to finish in discussing politics, in one way or another?

Green Baron:> <<I learned that Madame Destine was Patrick Toman and Kathy Pogge >> Really? Now THIS is a surprise...:). I never suspected it...
Anyway, seems you had a good time, what I'm glad for...

Nothing more, seems to me.

Good night everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Saturday, August 12, 2000 08:23:54 PM
IP: h213-16-95.mi2.albacom.net

<<no post, just lurking and marking my place. Happy weekend all!>>
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 07:41:20 PM
IP: ac894760.ipt.aol.com

RP WARNING!!!
**Green Baron sits at teh head of a conference table with his scouts nextto him, as they immodestly flirt with him. At the other end is a slavic-looking gentleman in a double-breasted suit.

"Attila may be captured, but we can do some of his mercenary activities, still. This is Aleksander Romanov. He will pay us handosmely and in Americna money, not rubles, for us to restore the Romanov dynasty in Russia and bring order there. He will grant Attila and myself the title of boyar and we can crack down on factions in the Russian mafia who do not do enough business with Attila."

Ave speaks first, "As their leader, we will hold a vote and conference and we shall call you back tommorrow. Therese will show to your room whiel we decide."

Aleksander winks at Therese as he is led to his room.**

END RP!!!

For your enjoyment, especially that of the Niamhgold, here is my tale.

Green Baron's G2K story:

Thursday, it all started. My father and I picked up Kenna from the bus station and took her to Cannon's, a lovely restaurant on St. Charles Ave. A few hours later, my father dropped us off at the Greyhound station and teh bus took an hour to leave, but overall, the delays were no worse than 40 minutes when we arrived in Orlando.

Friday, Coyote picked up Kenna and I and he took a shortcut to XenaTrek's apartment which only got him lost, so we eventually headed off for the Ramada. Kenna dropped her stuff off in my room and I talked with Starsinger, before I shwoered and changed into my semi-finished Green Baron outfit. Friday night, I went to see the festivities and I let Kenna back into my room and we took her bags to her room. Later that night, my card key died (I hate those things with a passion), because only three card keys could be issued per room, so I roomed with XenaTrek and Starsinger.

Saturday morning, I woke up to watch Babylon 5 with Starsinger and we went to a breakfast buffet where the waitress was spending so much time looking at me that she screwed up Starsinger's refill :)

The dinner was okay and the candle light was nice, but I was gald the power was back on. At the Masquerade, I went as Vogel again, and Tim Morgan went as Owen so we did that scene from The Gathering. Saturday night, I talked and flirted with all of the girls around me, while Aaron and Bud-Clare joked about it. After that, I followed Christien to Crzy's room where we al talked. I forgte all teh details, but it involved how men give poor directions and how I need less caffeine :)

Sunday morning, I went to Tastee Donuts with Starsinger (at least I think that was Sunday, or was it Monday), and after that we hit the Con Suite, where Abram Wintersmith mistook Starsinger for my mother.

During the Adult Fanfiction panel, I learned that Madame Destine was Patrick Toman and Kathy Pogge (this was the bomb that was dropped, Bud). This shocked me, but I shoudl have been better able to notice it. Attila made a pass at Madame Destine a while back, so now he's a little tramautized over making a pass at Patrick, but he wants to know if Kathy likes cats :) That evening, I went to Shoney's with Bud-Clare, Mer, and Maui (though until Monday I kept calling her Canadian girl). After returning, we waited for Greg to come back while Hudson gave us Improv hour, along with soem jokes by the Weisman family. It turns out Greg was late, because Thom wanted to eat at Red Lobster, and Kenna gave me an account of how slow the service was. I guess I can add it to my many reasons why I hate Red Lobster, in addition to my distaste for lobster :)

Monday, I arrived in EPCOT with Starsinger, Xena Trek, and Coyote, where we met up with Bud-Clare, Mer, and Maui. XenaTrek and Coyote left us, as we saw Tommorrow Land, and the World Showcase. By 3, Starsinger was getting a bit tired, so she left Maui and I in Germany to see some of the Magic Kingdom. Maui and I returned to Japan where Bud-Calre and Mer were finishing lunch. After leaving Mexico, Bud-Calre and I left for France to pick up a parasol I bought for a good friend. We next went back to Mer and Maui, where we saw the Life exhibit. After that, we had dinner in Japan and raced back for our bus stop.

After I returned, I picked up Kenna and Xena Trek drove us back to her place and then dropped us off at the Greyhound station for our 6:30 departure. We both caught up on our sleep during the bus ride, until we hit New Olrenas, where I stayed with Kenna until her bus back to Oklahoma City left.

Well, that's not all the happened, but if I included all, my post would rival Traveler's in size.

G2001> Regrettably, I can't make it, since that is during my second week of Airborne Training. I shoudl eb able to make G2002.

Niamhgold> Actually, I'd definietly skip Hawaii. The place is incredibly expensive and roach infested (it's worse than New Olreans). I personally hope to NEVER be stationed there, either.

Abbadon> I read an article about Gore's poor tennants. He's also a demagouge and reminds me of Huey P. Long a little. I hate populists.

Buchanan update> I don't know if you heard the news, but Pat Buchanan's running mate is a black woman. I wish I took a bet on that :)

Jenna> Congratulations

Thanks to all who wished me a happy 23rd, especially Niamhgold for her card and welcome to all those wacky newbies :)

Mary> I just added ICQ on my father's computer. Could you re-add me?

SOROW> I love History. I can also help, sis ::hugs::

Spacebabie> Actually, Aaron disagrees about me being Tenchi :) It seems I enjoy the women to much to be Tenchi :)

Warpmind> Well, democartic politics are not what they're cracked up to be, so that is part of my RP :)

Xena Trek> Well, if those teachers didn't know dumb meant mute, then they should all be transferred to Detroit's worst schools ::hugs::

Christine> I can't wait to see those pics :) Also, some people want a sequel for Lord Verdant's Desire :)

Now, I'm outta here

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Saturday, August 12, 2000 02:29:07 PM
IP: 141.164.77.5

Greetings all... My computer arrived yesterday, albeit with a few bangs and bums, but it works fine! Now I just need to gt a phone line and some proper Net access... WebTv sucks...

Christine - Glad to hear you had a great tie in Orlando! Tell Tim he was a Great Owen, and Becca looked so cute in her Bronx suit! Please save two copies of the new book for me... soon as I have a firt paycheck, I'm sending you my order!

XenaTrek - Hi there! I didn't know there were moore garg-fans here in the Sunshne State. :) Also surprised to learn you're deaf(?).. should be interesting to meet you if you ever come over by Tampa.

Well, i have to get some housework done for mother, so I'll close this for now.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, Fla, USA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 01:58:17 PM
IP: proxy-692.public.rwc.webtv.net

Horray for Firestorm
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:32:38 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.36.170.sandiego1.level3.net

**MATH PUZZLE**
Reminder:the riddle is what is the square root of i. The two previous hints are 1-1=0 and 1+1=2. I confess I had to use a calculator to solve the problem the first time, a few years ago. This is going to be my next hint: think about how the quadratic formula was developed and apply my first two hints. I will be suprised if someone does not figure out the answer soon.
**END MATH PUZZLE**

**RP RELATED**
I had better write down some of my more interesting plans for upcoming events. How far ahead, you might ask. Beyond the current outstanding plotlines.
**END RP RELATED**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 11:43:29 AM
IP: max1-52.cwy.cei.net

7 x 6 = 42 = The meaning of life

More later

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, August 12, 2000 11:09:01 AM
IP: 01-085.008.popsite.net

The president has no real power. His job is to direct attention away from the real power. Those who have read the Hithikers Guide to the Galaxy series of books know this.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 11:00:53 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.47.145.sandiego1.level3.net

** Niamhgold's in for a *real* quickie **

Warpmind's math puzzle: Well, if I'm the captain, then that would make the captain 18 years old :)

Adios!

Niamhgold
Saturday, August 12, 2000 09:57:54 AM
IP: lac-flex71.ncia.net

Hi all!!

Thank-you everyone for the birthday wishes.:),and I'm sorry about not stopping by so often it's just that things have been kind of busy for me.

XenaTrek:<<One of my co-worker... actually the one who gives me my paycheck everyweek wants to know why Austrailia is called "Oz" sometimes, etc., I told her I would ask you.>>I suppose it's just a shortened way of saying Australia,It could also have something to do with our almost unique environment.(The flora and the fauna that the tourisim companys love to put into their adverts etc..) but to be honest,I really have no idea why,it's just something that stuck I guess,I wish I could be more helpful.(And no I've not seen any Munchkins so don't even say it! ;))

*Small bit of Pc gaming news*

this is a few days old but there has been some great news for "Thief" fans,Since Looking glass studios closed it's doors back in May, the "Thief" and "System Shock" series have been in enforced limbo but Warren Spectre of Ion Storm(Creator of many classic games incuding the original "System Shock" and recently "Deus Ex".) has been able to aquire the "Thief" licence and has started drawing up plans for "Thief 3"(Yayy! Garret lives to steal another day. :) )

*End small bit of gaming news*

I've gotta go,take care.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Saturday, August 12, 2000 09:34:29 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

*Warpmind enters, carrying a small iron dagger.*
Well, I just realized I've not been RPing for some time... that shall be changed. *Sigh* And with Kaioto no longer in the play, I'll have to find some way to dispose of his flip side, too... But back to that later.

Christine: So by estimates, I might have the book within two weeks? Woohoo! (My mother will hit the roof - she does not approve of my spending money on fictional works - my family on the whole is in a period of tight funds.)

Shadowrider: I'm not saying EU is the cause of European politics seeming to go the Way of the Dodo; I'm saying it is a factor in the equation. Sure, there are some benefits to it, but I have a nagging hunch that, eventually, it will be a disaster for the richer European countries, who will be forced to support the financially weaker ones, who in turn will recieve a lift that cannot be sustained long enough for them to grow economically strong enough to maintain their newfound wealth... do you follow me?

Math Puzzles: Here's one that has caused many a frown, mostly because the subject not always manages to combine the information he has been given properly...
The situation: You're the captain of a small boat. The crew consists of Hans, the cook, Leo, the mechanic, and George, the navigator. The boat, a small fishing vessel, usually goes out on three-week tours and returns with a cargo of fish at an average value of 125,000$. When on shoreleave, Hans prefers to gamble away his share at the nearest casino, Leo goes out to invest his share in his stock portfolio, and George puts his money in the bank before going to play Bingo with his mother. How old is the captain?

Mary Flanders: Ooo, stories? Hmmm... lessee... I *do* have a tendency of doing things step-by-step, where others might be unable to realize the efficiency of sequence... you should have seen me the summer I worked as a librarian. Or an office secretary at the town hall. :) 'Course, my work habits are often quite similar to those of a computer... I do *precisely* what I'm told; no more, no less, and rarely with the expected result... ;) Believe me, if I could describe some of the events in less that 15,000 words, I would...

Katara: Isn't it odd? Seemingly, the most intense religious experiences are from those who at the time have been deepest down... Makes you wonder, don't it? Seems that the Big Guy is quite picky about who he cheers up, too... :|

Gside: I'll take your word for the correct typing. I've never read the play, only seen standalone quotes from it. Strangely enough, quotes seem to have a high typo frequency, don't they? :|

Jannie: I believe it was Mark Twain who also said "Heaven may have the prettiest surroundings, but it's the other place that has the most interesting residents."

**RP**
High in the air, an old De Havilland Hornet Moth began to cough and sputter, before the engine died. Permanently. Behind the controls, the pilot cursed vehemently before the eastbound plane suddenly headed south. After a few moments, the plane crashed quickly down on a battlefield, tumbling on the ground, more than anything resembling an albatross landing. After a few seconds, the door was kicked open, and the pilot got out.
"Crud. Next time, I'll have to check the fuel gauge before takeoff. Hey, you guys over there, would you..."
Steppin closer to the others, the pilot frowned, biting off and spitting out his half-smoked cigar.
"Um... hello. You're SJ and friends, I presume? I met some of you up on the Avatar..."
Wiping some grime off his face, the pilot revealed himself to be Warpmind de InzanE.
"You're SJ, right? And you..." He turned to Sammael. "You're Sammael, back in a proper form, right? My grandfather once described you as a good-looking demon, by human standards..."
He stretched, looking around at the gathered crowd.
"Um... I just flew in from Europe, where the Quencher went her own path for the present war... would it be too much to ask what just happened here?"
**RP END**

SJ, a quick debriefing on the RP events where your lot is right now would be appreciated - I haven't been able to pay much attention recently, and took the liberty of "dropping in" on your gathering...

Well, ciao.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, August 12, 2000 08:17:22 AM
IP: mp-217-213-76.daxnet.no

Gside:
Yeah, yeah. Ok, I bow to you superior knowledge. :) Your answer was actually one of my first guesses, but I decided that it was too simple and tried to make it more complicated. One might even say complex, if one was inclined to such things. Hey, I just realized that ¹i would be an irrational imaginary number, wouldn't it? I think someone was having far too much fun coming up with these names.
----
Jannie:
:snicker: Good quote. I'll have to remember that one.
----
I get my Voodoo5 today! I just got the email with the tracking number! Yay! Mmmm, full screen antialiasing...

Got to get to work. Later.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 08:00:09 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-67-142.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

a quick morning quote in preparation of the upcoming elections:

Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
-- Mark Twain

Jannie
Saturday, August 12, 2000 07:31:00 AM
IP: 209-144-251-2.hou.port.mytelco.com

After years of visiting your site and watching it grow from its very beginings it makes me very happy to see that the site is still continuing to grow. i would like to applord the team for their efforts and that they continue to grow

Since the beginning
the Rapter
Rapter - [qintaglio@paradise.net.nz]
New ZealandSaturday, August 12, 2000 03:59:46 AM
IP: cf3k-1.paradise.net.nz

Katara: Sure you can call me Kit. Everyone does, after all. :) <opens her door for Doug and then roars off with a red line flashing across her front fender humming the Knight Rider theme> :)
Kitainia
Saturday, August 12, 2000 02:08:58 AM
IP: pool-209-138-214-150.dlls.grid.net

Saw Space Cowboys toady. Good movie, liked the structural engineer, and had a Evangelion flashback at the end.

Tomorrow is the George Sheehan Classic. Will you be running?

Warpmind> <<You're calling a Necromancer "Binky"?>>: Heck yeah. My sorceress is Perky. If I ever get around to it, my paladin would be Harry, and my amazon would be Poly. These are references to (in order): Macbeth's vision of Banquo's ghost, Sluggy Freelance's Gwynn, Henry V, and Hyppolita.
<<he correct quote is "Et tu, Bruta?">>: I am not sure what version (folio, quarto, whatever) it is, but according to http://tech-two.mit.edu/Shakespeare/Tragedy/juliuscaesar/juliuscaesar.3.1.html#84 (part of the Complete Moby Shakespeare, a version distributed over Project Guttenberg) it is an e.

Wilek> <<When will you get to those?>>: When I feel like it. My selections are based almost exclusively on my moods, which can be quite fickle. But since you asked, I'll probably push it up the stack (or should that be pop (actually neither of those is accurate)).
<<Is [Linux] compatible with Windows and DOS games?>>: Upon reflection, I'd think you could possibly get better performance through a win emulator than standard windows. The problem would most likely be with the hardware though.
<<RealVideo format. I love www.tfextreme.com>>: Didn't I give you that link?
<<gotta get the Cheshire Cat>>: Not the Hatter? They could probably do a good job with the White Knight and Jabberwock, or even the looking-glass insects.
<<The Church of Weismanology?>>: Hey, we've already got one law.

Warpmind> <<I have a huge maul, with the word "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA" engraved on the head>>: I noticed.

Shadowrider> <<Whitch (I don't know if it is the name you know her with>>: As I said before, Sorceress. (though we spell that version of which "witch")
<<in Diablo 1 I practically didn't use the Sorcerer as well>>: There goes my theory of engineers being equivalent with spell slingers.

DPH> <<Firestorm's dern lot boys?>>: Really just another scapegoat. Original reference is to a game manual.

Cherry Blossom> <<Clinton didn't really get impeached did he?>>: Impeached only means brought to trial. You can be impeached, found not guilty, then go back to work, which happened with Clinton.

Daniel Johnson> <<i^2 = i>>: Nope, i^2=-1. Though i^4=1 therefore, sqrt(i)=sqrt(4,/1)=sqrt(1)=1
Note, x,/y=xth root of y

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 12, 2000 01:08:34 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Greetings all! Welcome home to all that were in FL. Can't wait for all the stories and pictures to start coming out. Welcome to the newcomers.

Whew!! _Finally_ got finished reading all the posts from this week. Hadn't been able to check in here all week due to RL issues. Man I HATE SDG&E! Stupid electrical rate de-regulation! Damn bill was so blinkin' big that I wasn't able to pay my phone bill on time. So PacBell being the wonderful, understanding people that they are, cut off my phone service! Had to pay almost $200 just to get the damn thing restored. B**ch of it was, I had to borrow the money from my sister-in-law to do it! *deep breath* anyhoos, on to replies.....

James Birdsong > Howdy neighbor! Which part of the glorious county are you in? IB area here. Welcome to madness. Beware of exploding b-day cakes though. :)

GXB > Sorry to hear about your problems with your father. Such a shame some people have to be so close-minded about things. I hate to say it, but sounds like your father is the one that needs to see the shrink instead. I apologize if that comment offends you in any way at all.

Mandoline > Thanks for posting your pics for all to enjoy. My only comment is that Patrick should have worn a wig! LOL

Kitainia > (would you be upset if I just call you Kit? the other is just so long to spell sometimes. :)..)..Thanks for your concern. The wrist is feeling much better now. A week of Motrin and wearing my wrist brace helped tremendously. When it starts bothering me, I don't even bother going to the doctor anymore..(unless it's seriously causing me problems)They will just tell me to do exactly what I did do.

As far as the relationship with my ex goes, it's just to bad that we didn't get along this well while we were married. (my dad always said I was bass-ackwards! LOL) But I don't have any major regrets about how things turned out. I firmly believe that things, good or bad, happen for a reason. My marriage was a small part in God's plan for my life. Without my ex, I wouldn't have been able to have the 2 kids that I have today. Sure, I could have married someone else (and almost did) and had kids, but they wouldn't have been the same. Know what I mean? Anyways, I know that one of my descendants is destined to do something good and worthwhile in their life that will be a benefit to this world. Several years ago when I was in the deepest bout of depression I'd ever experienced, and thinking some really dark thoughts, I had a vision. Now I'm not a very religious person, but I _KNOW_ God spoke to me that night. So whenever I start to get down about things, I always look at my kids and remember that I had to endure the hell for a reason.

**<Oops! Sorry guys, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant.> ::runs over to the alter of Weismanology and leaves her Hard-Wired Goliath as a sacrificial offering::**

SJ > Gundam books! Dang! Now I wish I'd payed more attention to the books instead of the models while I was at SDCC!

Jena > WTG on the contract! Best of luck to ya!

Well folks, guess that's about it for now. Time to wander off and catch up on mail and pester and annoy anyone I can find to sit still long enough! lol *fades to black*

Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:39:10 AM
IP: aca02fe8.ipt.aol.com

Shadowrider> You help is appreciated. We're beginning with the Renaissance which I already know a lot about, but the textbook we have is so boring as all textbooks are.

Kyryn> I'll try not to kill myself first :)

SOROW
Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:17:03 AM
IP: dll2a020-0470.splitrock.net

Warpmind>yeah, we're like that too. Sometimes those pesky genes from our folks just kick in. ;P BTW, got any stories of your days with Asperger's you'd like to share with me? It would make me feel better knowing I'm not the only one who acts bizarre by genetic make up. ^_^
Mary Flanders
Friday, August 11, 2000 10:51:35 PM
IP: ramp-2-7.ucdavis.edu

DPH:
Be careful what you wish for. >:)

No, you haven't gotten rid of me yet. I seem to be lurking a lot more recently. Unfortunately, while I read very fast, I tend to write slowly and deliberately. I've had just enough time to read the room, but not enough time to make coherent posts. As result, I end up not writing anything. :( I'm trying! Really!

Square root of i. Hmm...
a^2 = b and sqrt(b) = a
i is actually 1i. Ok, 0+1i to be precise. i merely denotes an imaginary number.
i^2 = i therefore sqrt(i) = i
I haven't had to do complex math in an ungodly length of time so this could be completely wrong, but my intuition says it's right.

I'm going to reeeeally try to post more. I hope.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 08:35:59 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-67-142.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Doug> Thanks for your support. And thanks for posting your cast list btw. I know I owe you feedback but I have yet to read "NOS part 3". I've been hard at work on a story for season 3 of the main cycle. But when I can read it, I will.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 11, 2000 07:46:16 PM
IP: cache-01.nyc.bestweb.net

Okay, I have a list of four people now who live in Ohio..I don't feel so awful. But, seriously, its hard to go from living in a place where you know everyone, and are friends with everyone, and to top it off, you even know lots of people online who are near you, and then to go to a place where you don't even want to go, and know absolutely no one, and know of only one person who lives near you online. I'm going insane, crazy, out of mind for some person who I can relate to without being afraid that they're going to talk behind my back. *mutters* Stupid small towns..

Green Baron< Yup! I got it! But unfortunately, at the time I didn't have time to reply to it and then everything was taken apart and put in a truck, so I really didn't have access to the net much less time to respond..and now I'm afraid to check my email for fear that my email box is going to have about 60 in there from friends and family who all promised to write. >.< So, you'll be one of the first to get a response, when I finally check my email. heh...

Lady Mystic< Thank you so much! I hope I can find lots more stuff on G2K too ^_^

Mandi< awesome pictures!!

Clinton/Presidential Election< *Ka-BLINK* I haven't watched TV in forever I understand, but c'mon..Clinton didn't really get impeached did he?! *scratches her head* Not that I think its a bad thing, but how could this have happened without me hearing about it?!?! I'm gonna have to investigate this a little more...and I can't vote, and I pay no attention to politics generally unless they directly affect me, so I guess it doesn't matter to me who gets elected next...

*walks out scratching her head in puzzlement*

cherry blossom
Friday, August 11, 2000 07:40:43 PM
IP: stpa-ras1-4-cs-2.dial.bright.net

Firestorm's dern lot boys? Will someone please fill me in on what that means?

*DPH attempts to create a forcefield around his place of work to keep Chaos out. He will not find out if it worked until *
I have to go to work on Sunday, but Saturday is optional.
*Sunday.*

Call me confused. I took part in a recent political survey for who would win the election. I told them I am not sure about whom I would vote for and I am still not . Being a moderate makes it difficult for me to find a candidate I really like. A choice between 2 evils is still a choice for evil. That is what I want for a 3rd party: a party of moderates. Is Buchanan a racist? He comes across that way and when you look at where his support comes from (disenfranchised whites), you really wonder.

I seem to be missing the other Daniel in this room. Where is he?

BTW, I am happy to see the CR size surpassing 300K (not that I think bigger size is an important measure of anything).

**RP RELATED**
As promised, I will wrap up the Speed Star meeting today. I just hope Winterwolf will not have trouble catching up with what happened while he was gone.
**END RP RELATED**

**NEW PC CELEBRATION**
roughly 2 more paychecks until new PC time for DPH. Beware world, I will return to some of my old haunts on the internet. Those playing Reversi at Yahoo should beware: I will regain a high rank in no time flat, so prepare. With a new PC, I will return to working on my special project: my own Othello program that will be able to beat me (I do not have room on my existing harddrive or sufficient memory for the software I need to install in order to finish it).
**END PC CELEBRATION**

Hmm. Here's a puzzle for math types: What is the square root of i equal to? Only two hints:
1 - 1 = 0 and 1 + 1 = 2.

**BFTS RP continues**
Elaine Wiseman starts to speak, "I recommend that we purchase new suits with these increased specifications."

She clicks on the mouse button. The words "New Options" appear on the screen. She clicks again on the mouse button. This time the words "Static defense" appear on the screen.

Elaine starts to speak again, "We need to place an electric discharge on the exterior of the suits. This way if anyone touches, they will be severely hurt." Elaine clicks the mouse button again: the words "built in weapons" appear on the screen.

"The committee came to the conclusin that attached sonic cannons and flame throwers to the suits would prevent some problems," said Elaine Wiseman.

Elaine, once again, clicked the mouse button. This time the words,"Additional Weapons" appeared on the screen.

Elaine continued, "We, the Committee, also believe that all extra available weapons/ammo be carried to each spot in case of weapon failure and in case existing weapons are not effective enough."

Elaine, yet again, clicked on a mouse button. This time the words "Additional troops" appeared on the screen.

She continued speaking, "We recommend sending more troops. Specificallly, at least 40 on the north side, 40 on the south side, 40 on the east side, and 40 on the west side. We also recommend sending 40 people inside the house to find any reserve people."

Elaine continued speaking for 20 minutes and then said, "This concludes the presentation. Any questions?"

Fred Hitman asked, "Assuming we adopt your recommendations, how soon will we be ready?"

"Unknown amount of time. It depends on our supplier." replied Greg Garrison.

Fred Hitman, then, said "We will follow your recommendations. Begin preparations immediately."
**END BFTS RP**




DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 06:25:00 PM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

Hi everyone! Just some short replies.

Thanks to DPH and XenaTrek for the news about Winterwolf, I feel more tranquil now.

Green Baron:> Well, if you say the cange was for the best, it's OK for me...but I'm sorry to hear of your difficulties in dealing with your mother. You know, as we here use to say, "Mom is always mom...".

Niamhgold:> Lai/lay...oh, I got it! LOL! Yeah, for sure Brooklyn would be going to make a funny face...and, if Sata is near, a very amusing scene could born from it...
By the way, in Italian it could make another joke, but it is totally untranslatable, I'm sorry...
So you didn't receive my mail? Weird, usually if mails aren't delivered I receive at least a warning message...oh, well, I'll resend it. It was nothing urgent, anyway...

Gside:> And the big answer is (drums roll): Paladin. Yes, I wanted to try him at first. Seems powerful, and I like the aura-related abilities. In next days I want to try the Barbarian and the Amazon, while I feel no particular need in trying the Necromancer and the Whitch (I don't know if it is the name you know her with...I hate Italian versions of games: they make ugly mistakes, and the voices used are usually unadequate. But this time I had no choice...sheeshhh!). Nothing strange in it, in Diablo 1 I practically didn't use the Sorcerer as well.

Emambu:> I understand. What was your age at the time, by the way? Anyway, Naples is not for sure the safest city in Italy, although I go there practically every year since I was born (my grandparents live there) and I never had any problem. The trouble with Naples is that for years the whole city has been practically abandoned to the organized crime, and this because of the ugly deal between the crime organizations and part of Italian politicians (right-wing, to be precise...and I don't want to make comments about it...I just add that this is just one of the many flaws they made to my country when they governed it...no wonder that my political beliefs are what they are...). Since 1992, the State has started regaining control over Naples and the other cities in the same situation, and, due to the great efforts of Police and Carabinieri, and to the work of many courageous judges, Naples is now very safer than before, but there's still a lot to do...

Warpmind:> Hmm...being a first-time supporter of Romano Prodi (current EU Chief of Commission) I'm sorry but I can't agree with you...

Fire Storm:> Daria: Hm, I didn't know it. So, MTV follows different strategies in the various countries? Weird...

SOROW:> European History, isn't it? Well, if you need some help, just tell me, I'd be glad to help you as I can.

Longer than I thought. Well, I hope I missed none, in the opposite case please tell me...

Good Night!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, August 11, 2000 06:10:04 PM
IP: h255-20-71.mi2.albacom.net

Hi ya'll

I've been busy. Our Network Tech quit last month, and the Hardware Tech won't be back until September at the earliest. That technically leaves me in charge of the Technical Services department... (The fiber network is almost done at one of our branches. When it's finished, we have to go install all the operating software. Lord God in Heaven, PLEASE let the new Network Tech be hired before that. Then it will be HIS problem.)

In other news, Goblyn has been wandering the apartment unsupervised for several days, and none of the furniture is ruined. She's pretty good about using the scratching post unless she's nervous or something. She still has to be locked up at night, though. As soon as she realizes everybody else in the apartment is on the other side of closed doors, she starts yowling. (She does that when you lock her in the bathroom, too, but there's more insulation between me and her there. :>) She gets to visit Mr. Vet next Tuesday. After that, she'll probably have a mortal fear of the car. My old cat did.

Good/Bad teachers. I've had some of both. The good more or less outweigh the bad. Once I got to College, I only really had a couple of bad ones, and I could take classes from the good ones over and over again.

Pendragon - Aug 15.> Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anime> Since there are some fans here, I feel like bragging a bit. I have Cowboy Bebop 1-4 on DVD now. (I can't afford food, but I have a good Anime collection. Now, if only Outlaw Star would come out on DVD, I could give up new clothing, too.)

I guess that pretty well does it for now. I don't have the energy to comment on anything really serious. It takes too much effort to find the right words. See ya'll later.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 06:07:18 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Jenna > congratulations on your book news!

Warpmind > yep, that's on the agenda for tomorrow, a trip to the post office to mail out some books!

Essay update > it's closer to done, and I will be able to pick up my film this evening, so I'll start scanning and get everything posted as soon as I'm able.

Stephen > Seth gave me your message, hope all's going well for you and I will try and e-mail soon!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, August 11, 2000 04:58:40 PM
IP: 15-157.009.popsite.net

**RP HERE- THE RAVENS' SAGA**

"What…" Kitainia stares at Leah and Mansfield, then her eyes flick to Tom as he stands beside them grinning. "What are they doing here?" "We wanted to help," Leah replies. "Are we too late?" "That's right, Kit, they wanted to help," Tom declares. "You hit the panic button, and I was about to come running, but they insisted on coming along. Said it was their chance. So I armed them, and now here we are." Kit's jaw falls open. "You let them have weapons?" "Sis, whoa!" Stephanie shouts. "Maybe they ain't gonna use them on us, huh? Otherwise wouldn't they be shooting us right now?" "She's got a point," Jammer adds, grimacing. Kit looks at everyone else, sees Lathrop and Orion nodding while the rest shrug in agreement, and then turns back to stare at Leah and Mansfield. "They did tell me the truth about me not being on Thailog's side," Doug says. "And they were gonna help us kill that Jerec jerk. I think maybe we can trust them." "So you guys got him, huh?" Mansfield grins. "Great. We always hated that guy." "Yeah," Leah nods. "Sorry we missed it, but if you let us come with you into another fight, we'll gladly be on your side." Kit stares at her, frowning. "Come on, Kit," Tom says. "They seem pretty sincere." "I detect no lies," Tricia adds, after applying her psionics. "We've handled traitors before," says Elena. "I don't think we'll have to this time, but we can do it again." "Unpleasant as it might be," nods Boris. "So what do you think?" asks Lathrop. "Do we keep them with us or not?" "Yeah, do we?" Keith seconds. "I'm still not sure we can trust them, but…" He stops as Kit gives him a glance. "Alright," she then sighs, looking at Leah and Mansfield. "Since the team approves, you guys can come along. But you do one thing that makes me doubt you, and…" "We know," Leah assures her, "and we won't." Mansfield nods. "Okay then," Doug smiles at them. "In that case, we welcome you both to the team." "Thanks, guys," Tom says as the two commandos smile in relief. "Don't mention it," Orion says. "If you can trust them, so can we." Kit nods in agreement. "Now come on," she then says, "let's go tell Agent Rho about Jerec. Then we have to see if he's done fixing the truck yet. We have a date to keep at the Mall of America." The others nod and follow her out, leaving behind Jerec's destroyed and mangled corpse.

**END THIS CONFLICT-RESOLVING RP**

Hi everyone. Time to get caught up as much as I can. Sorry if this post will be shorter than mine usually are, the job's been taking up a lot of my time. I'm making good money, but unfortunately I'm having to put aside everything else to do it. Losses still isn't finished (though it has passed the halfway point), I'm not catching up on postings in here till today, and I don't know when I'll be able to catch up again. School this fall will only make things worse. <sigh> No good movies coming out this weekend to help ease my need for relaxation either, even if I had time to watch them. :( Oh well, best reply while I still have the time.

Wilek: So that's what the CR smells like. <grin> Thanks for the cast list link, I don't know who everybody on it is, but the ones I do know about sound like good choices for the characters in question. Speaking of cast lists, I forgot to add a few names to my list last night:
Warfalion, Grahf: Michael Dorn.
NYPD Commander Robert Trammel: William Forsythe.
Myrlendia: The actress who did Tasha Yar. I forget who that was. :(
You're right, I do put too much thought into my casting. <grin> But it helps the creative ions fire, so it's good. Glad to see you still posting and putting out words in your usual comic manner even if it's taking you a while to get back to writing fic.

Niamhgold: Thanks for your encouragement on my job troubles (which are long over now, thank goodness :), and the sympathy on the car repairs we recently had to undergo. They are indeed terrible. We've paid nearly five thousand dollars to fix our car's starter problems, and it _still_ has them. Maybe we just have to face it, we bought an 18 year-old car that is ready to just up and die. <shakes head> And it's a Volvo. This should NOT be happening. Oh well, maybe Kit and I can get a new car soon if we keep making enough money at our jobs. The deferred payment, nothing down, TT&L included in payments, and so on plans that the car dealerships around here have on their new vehicles do seem a bit attractive. <shrugs> Glad you'll be waiting as long as necessary to read my next fanfic too. I'll try to get Losses out soon, but I can't say when it will be. :( Can speak even less on when I'll start, let alone finish, the next story in the saga, "Strangers" (in which the clan must help a vengeful New York subway ghost get laid to rest, and also run into vampire gang members and Blade), but I am going to do my best to keep writing. :) No matter how much school and the job get in the way. Good luck to you with both your college and your jobs, hope you'll wish me the same. :)

Jannie: Glad your recovery is coming along nicely, hope it doesn't last too long. As for that principal… <shakes head> she really needs to pull her head out of her you-know-what. <grimace> What the heck is wrong with her? (Her last name isn't Teppen, is it? I had a female middle school assistant principal by that name who treated the students so much like this woman treats you and other people it's not even funny.) I'm glad you're gonna get away from her soon, but I agree with Kit that doing so shouldn't make you have to abandon teaching. As all the bad teacher stories in here prove (I have my own too, btw, I just don't want to talk about them right now), the world needs as many good teachers as it can get. I pray you can find some way to escape the devil-woman without abandoning your fulfillment of that need. If not, I must say I will feel the pain of all your potential students. But I shouldn't be saying this, it's your life after all. You live it however you want. <shrugs> I just hope you make the right decisions.

The Poem: Glad everyone liked it. There's some great writing on the site I found it on too, I suggest you all check it out if you can. The link is farther down the page.

Gunjack Valentine: Welcome back! It sure has been a while. :) Thanks for telling us about your vacation. Kit and I wanted to go on the road and do a lot of the things you did ourselves this summer, but we couldn't because of all the repairs the car needed. <sigh> Oh well, at least someone got to have such great experiences. If our jobs allow, maybe we can have them ourselves at some later date. <crosses fingers and grins>

Katara: <We have a better divorce than we ever did a marriage> You're not the only couple I know who are like that. Keith and Stephanie were together once, now they're just good friends, and it seems far better for both of them as well as all the people around. (You did not want to be within five miles when these two started a fight.) Glad your car is being repaired, hope its problems are able to be fixed without costing you too much. I'll keep you in my prayers. :)

Kyryn, GXB, Todd: Thanks for all the Pendragon teasing, the plot points and deadlines you've mentioned have gotten me very excited. Many great things happen August 15th- my job's first paycheck, the release of Tom Clancy's new novel, and now Pendragon Season 3. <grin> I hope I have time to read the episodes as they are put out, I'm sure they will be worth it. :)

Taleweaver, Gasper: You guys actually _liked_ that woman-hating lazy jerk on Survivor? <blinks> I don't believe it. SJ said so many awful things about him I'd have thought any decent person in their right mind would have hated the guy's guts! Oh well, I only heard the bad side, I don't watch Survivor, maybe I'm wrong to feel this way. Just wanted to share my view nonetheless. Doesn't matter anyway, he's gone. :)

Emmabu: Glad you had such great experiences at the convention. I too agree with you about the protesters there being troublemakers by and large. It's good that at least some people are able to see and recognize this, not to mention give the people what they want and deserve (talking about the cops here). I hate that such people exist, and especially that we have so many of them here in Austin (being a Wal-Mart security guard, I run into many of them, unfortunately. Just yesterday, there was this woman parked in the store's fire lane who claimed she didn't know it was the fire lane. When I told her how to recognize it for future reference, she called me a smartass and demanded my name and company phone number before she would move. Good thing my boss agreed with my side of the story and said he would tell her to go to hell if she ever called. :) Then there was the guy who blamed the store having a too-busy parking lot as the reason he illegally parked in a handicapped space, the guy who cussed out and threatened to kill the photo shop manager just because he couldn't get an appointment at the exact time he wanted one- who I had to eject off the premises-, the woman who waited forever for a parking space and then got so mad at the other woman who zipped in and took it that she inspired that woman to threaten to run her over and then actually slash her tire in revenge for the cussing-out she was given,…now I know how Pistoff felt meeting the idiots of the world every day. <sigh>). Congrats on surviving them with only one wound, and of course I'm glad that wound is healing. <grin> Glad you're back too. I wish you good luck with the years of college ahead.

Xanathar: You're welcome for the birthday wish. Welcome back, even if it was brief. Hope you will return to us again very soon.

GXB: Don't know what to say about your dad, it sounds to me like he's the one with the problems, not you. Of course, I am a bit biased since you're my friend and all. But I definitely agree with you that many of his ideas are ridiculous, especially the one of Greg as a cult leader. Come on! <sighs> Glad that you're able to let it all be his problem and not as much yours. And that you have so many people who agree with your side of the equation. Glad you don't have to live with the guy too. :) Like many in here, I hope that y'all can somehow patch things up, however impossible it may seem, since he is your father. If you need help Kit and I can provide, just let us know.

Kathy: Thanks for sharing your Gathering experiences with us (thanks also to everyone else who did the same). Wonder what bomb you meant when you mentioned Green Baron. :) Hope someday I get to know. Thanks also for telling us about Gathering 2001. Kit and I don't know if we can make it, but it sounds important enough for us to go the extra mile to do our best. :)

Firestorm: Dish Network, eh? Sounds interesting. Maybe I'll think about getting it after college is over and Kit and I get firmly settled into our first house (which we'll be looking for come December). Our money's tight right now because of those two things. Thanks for telling us about it. Good luck with that frivolous lawsuit, hope you get a judge who throws it right out. :)

SJ: Thanks for the Action Man review, Kit and I will have to check out that show. I hope the same thing you do about the lawsuit pending against record companies. I agree with your bit about Liebermann too, and Kit's even more. It shouldn't matter that he's Jewish, especially because of the anti-Semitism stuff you mentioned, but because of our lousy politically object media…<growls> He's not that politically attractive, either, IMO, and neither are Bush, Cheney, Gore, or especially Buchanan. <sighs> Oh well, at least some of us Americans have our heads screwed on right about all this election business. Too bad I can't say that for any of the guys in charge of it all. <groans> If Alan Keyes were still in the running, Kit and I might have voted for him as President. The way things are now, though…<shakes head> I hope the end result of the election does not do too much damage to our country, and if it does, we are able to learn from our mistakes.

Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan: I am also nonplussed about this. I don't doubt he's a good actor, I've liked him in Dogma, Good Will Hunting, Armageddon, Reindeer Games, Forces of Nature (the latter two films stunk otherwise IMO), and other films, but I really can not see him in the part of Clancy's epic hero. He's too young, and there are other reasons also. It could still pan out to be great, so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, but not much of it. <sigh> This better not kill the Clancy film franchise, he's written so many good books he deserves what he's getting from the movies made of them. There are few authors out there for whom I can say the same. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. :(

Bad Teacher Stories: Like I said above, I have my own too. I really don't want to mention them, though. Fortunately I've had many more teachers who I've liked a lot. <grin> Some of whom I wouldn't have survived high school without. :) Everyone who's shared their bad teacher stories has my sympathies, especially Mary (I know all about Asperger's Syndrome, I once thought I had it myself. Then I learned I was just very close to it. Nevertheless I still went through much of the teasing she did with other children. So I can sympathize with her very much.). I am real glad we all don't have to suffer under such people anymore. :) Hopefully our children won't have to either. And if it looks like they might, we are somehow able to recognize such people for what they are and fight back. <grin>

Kyryn: <I survived being raped by a stranger as a child> My God! I never knew you had such an experience, I don't know what to say. You have my deepest sympathies for it and I too am glad beyond belief that you have been able to get past the extreme psychological pain that must have resulted and become the strong, intelligent, mature, and otherwise wonderful person you are now. As for all the people who slighted you because of it, who didn't understand, shame on them! You don't have to worry, Kyryn. No matter what, you'll always have many good friends here who like and respect you for who you are. Same goes for just about everyone else in the room. Hope that makes you feel better, I know it does me. :)

SOROW: Congrats on beginning your senior year. Don't worry, the AP classes will soon ease up, I am certain. And if they don't, well, good luck. :) With them and everything. We'll be praying for you as long as it all goes on.

Jenna: Congrats on the writing contract, I'll take a copy of the book too when it comes out. <grin> Hope that will be soon.

Gside: A Necromancer named Binky? ROFL! Maybe I should check out Diablo II.

That's about all I have time for right now, hope I caught up on everything. Have to get to my job by five, so I better say goodbye. Everyone stay cool, and try to avoid problems. Good luck resolving any that arise. Until next time.

**SHORT RP HERE**

In Thailog's secret base, Corax looks up from his computer screen and grimaces. "It's not a system error, sir," he tells Thailog. "Jerec's vital signs really are flat. He must have been killed by the Ravens." "Our spy will doubtless confirm it," Tyl agrees. Thailog growls, then sighs heavily. "Oh well, he was becoming useless anyway. Any word from Nipon and Guod?" "Not yet, sir," replies Gardner. "They only arrived in Atlanta a few hours ago, they're probably still integrating themselves." "I hope they can report soon then," Thailog grimaces. "In the meantime, I have another plan to eliminate the Ravens that we should at least attempt." "What is it?" asks Kharsus. "Do you want me to summon more elementals?" "No," Thailog snaps. "We've tried that already." "May I go after them, then?" asks Dahak. "They cannot destroy me." "How about I clone some uber-mutants and we send them?" chuckles Dr. Edison. "No, and no!" Thailog snaps, causing Edison to sigh. Then he looks at Zale. "I think you should have a try." "Um, sir," the general frowns, "I don't have very many soldiers left, and…" "You won't need soldiers for what I have in mind," Thailog declares, smiling. "Only pilots, and planes. If you don't have the pilots, I'm sure Edison can clone some for you." He goes on to outline his plan, and Zale's eyes light up. Then he nods. "That could work," he says. "At least, I think it can. There's always a chance they could shoot the planes down or…" "Dahak and Kharsus will weave spells to prevent that," Thailog grins. Zale looks at them and then nods. "I see. Well then, I'll see if we have the type of planes you requested. If so, it shouldn't take me long to get them in the air." "Good," Thailog smiles, and the screen goes blank.

**TO BE CONTINUED (ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE SITUATIONS) NEXT TIME. END RP**

Doug - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Friday, August 11, 2000 04:42:34 PM
IP: pool-207-205-146-111.dlls.grid.net

XenaTrek - FEAR NOT! A close friend of mine is a court translator for ASL. She said she would be happy to come out and help!! It was great to meet you and I look forward to seeing you next year. ::HUGS::

I will probably post more on the Gathering as soon as I get my pictures developed.

:)

CrzyDemona
Friday, August 11, 2000 03:36:43 PM
IP: 72-154-179-208.pajo.com

Good teachers> Besides Mrs. Pendilino, I've had no outrageously horrible teachers. I've had a few in HS that have annoyed me, like my Psych teacher and my Spanish teacher. But that's really it.

On the other hand, I have a hefty list of teachers I've liked. Pretty much all the rest, but there are a few standouts. Mr. Brown, who's been my teacher for Algebra, Physics and Religion. He's just an all-around cool teacher. He looks like the stereotype for a college professor -- 50's, beard, glasses, white hair, an old beat-up brief case with his name on it. He recommended me for Honors English when I was a freshman. Really liked my essays in Religion class, I guess. (I was athiest back then ;)

Two other cool teachers have been: Mr. Costanzo, my Junior Religion teacher, who was simply very young, very liberal, very open-minded. Thus, cool. And Mr. Cleaver, my AP History teacher. We had to rush in the end of the year, and I don't think anyone passed the AP test, but his class was still the most memorable of last year. He really got into what he taught. He'd play the dramatic scores of war movies in the background and relate battles, play-by-play. Really cool. And he had a wealth of personal stories and visited just about every historical landmark in the country.

Robby> I'm impressed. You really are a true fan, you are. ;) Only problem with seeking out subs now is that, thanks to FUNimation, fansubs are illegal and if you can find them they'll cost you an arm and a leg.

Daria> There's gonna be a MOVIE?!

Entity
Friday, August 11, 2000 03:00:01 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Hi everybody!
Not much to say. Those who went to the Gathering I hope you had a good time!
<Emambu>
Thanks for your poem! I'll try to work that in!
See you guys later!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 11, 2000 02:24:15 PM
IP: usr76.cqc.com

*Warpmind pops in again, chuckling.*
Hi, gang. I just came up with something, and please, spread it around, as long as you acknowledge me as the origin. I have a huge maul, with the word "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA" engraved on the head.

**WARNING: GHASTLY ATTEMPT AT HUMOR! READ AT OWN PERIL!**
Ernest Schloss was a stand-up commedian, home for the holidays, planning to celebrate Fourth of July with his family, with a picnic in the park. However, Fate had laid other plans, and his family ran away with a used-car salesman.
That day, Ernest Schloss swore an oath to fight such villains in the only manner he knew. That day, Ernest Schloss died and became...
THE PUNNISHER!
Fighting homewreckers and swindlers on a day-to-day basis, the Punnisher is armed with a lethal arsenal of blunt jokes, edgy sarcasm and the most potentially volatile form of humor known to man: Puns.
**IT'S SAFE NOW.*

Wilek: We're on the same wavelength, me compadre. :) No cheating our governments from FAIR taxes.

Greetings, Gohar. Doubtful you'll find sponsors here, but you never know, you know. :)

Mandolin: Your apartment scheme sounds fun. ;)

That's it for now; gotta check my e-mail, and then I log off... Adios.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 11, 2000 01:51:45 PM
IP: mp-217-210-141.daxnet.no

Re: Winterwolf >> He told me he was visiting some relatives for a week after the gathering in Winter Heaven which is in NW part of Orlando (where Ocala, Winter Garden and Apoka is... I believe). He should be back early next week.

Jenna: >> Congrats.

Re: Bad Teachers/Good Teachers >> Too long of a story to post here for the 'bad' ones... they seems to think that since I am 'deaf', I must be 'dumb' also... hence the phrase "Deaf and Dumb". They ought to be in shocked to learn that I graduated with a 3.5 in High School and over 3.2 in my major in a "Big 10" university. Not all of them were that bad... one of my most favorite was Ms. Susan Wennings (my middle school homeroom teacher) and Mrs. Faulker (my speech pathelogist) who came to visit me every day while I was in a hospital for reconstructive surgery (I was born with partial facial paralysis) and bought me all kinds of cool books. Unfortunately I've lost touch with the both of them. The worst of all of the teachers I had was the one from the Phillipease (sp??) who insisted on speaking for me whenever I talk stating that I can't speak at all. The funniest professor in college has to be the gentleman from Sweden who during the demostration of electricity for a physics has a nasty habit of shocking himself and cursing in Swedish. He was a riot.

Firestorm and Lady Mystic: >> I was hoping to meet you guys... sorry you two couldn't make it. Hopefully we can get together in the near future. I'm not sure when I will be returning to Michigan to visit my family... once I do decide to... I'll let you guys know. (The latest will definately be my brother's HS graduation in June... before that, I'm not sure... I think my father (in Nova Scotia, Canada) is coming down for X-Mas... and I want to fund part of that trip.

Jenna & Kathy: > Re: Signers for 2001 Gathering >> I already mentioned to Crzy when I register... not sure she or the guy that took my money had made of note of it. Once I find out if my other trip to LA for Siggraph will be paid for thats in August, I believe I should be able to come down for the Garg con. I'll keep you posted. Thanks.

Jannie: >> Deposited the check. Thanks. Hope you have a speedy recovery.

Xanathar: >> One of my co-worker... actually the one who gives me my paycheck everyweek wants to know why Austrailia is called "Oz" sometimes, etc., I told her I would ask you.

Spacebabie:> Re: Infamous Orlando Roads >> I am greatful that I found two very important and helpful 'backway' around Orlando. No. 1. University Blvd. runs parallel to I-Drive... I take that whenever I want to get to Pointe Orlando and Muvico, etc., And No. 2. Apoka/Vineland aka Lk. Buena Vista to get to and from very busy Disney World to avoid I-4.

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 01:48:04 PM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

*A BIG thanks to FIRE STORM for the info*
And a little question: Are you serious about the Gargoyles coming back on TV?? If you are, Im gonna pass out! **()^**

Abbadon_13 - [murfer1@home.com]
lost in, OH, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 01:24:01 PM
IP: cc629709-a.nwhub1.in.home.com

Well, I finally got a chance to get to the MVA and get my license renewed, so now I don't have to argue with bartenders/bouncers and point at the date this weekend. It was like the Twilight Zone: the whole thing took me 20 minutes, and the license photo actually looks decent.

Wilek> <<<<he didn't like the idea of sharing an apartment in OC with four women who refer to themselves as Plague, Pestilence, Chaos (me), and War. (Death is in Connecticut, and Pain had to work.)>> And why not? It sounds fun. ^_^ >> He'd have to deal with us for the whole six hours it'll take us to get there, and frankly, all of us together will drive him nuts. Plague especially thrives in tormenting her friends' boyfriends.

DPH> Well, it's good to know Winterwolf's absence was intentional and he's okay. Thanks for letting us know.

Bad teachers> Joyce, the Design I prof who was so flaky and so terrible at explaining what she wanted that she caused me to avoid studio art classes at Hood like the plague. (I told Mara about her when we were exchanging stories of bad art teachers.) And there was Mrs. Harmeyer, the 10th grade English teacher who thought I was a moron because I didn't debate with her all the time and wouldn't let people she didn't know join Yearbook regardless of experience (despite the fact that my friend Lara had been on the staff of two different yearbook publications).

That's all... need to get back to work.

Mandolin
Friday, August 11, 2000 01:14:51 PM
IP: g6192.apgea.army.mil

****Kyryn pops back in****

Mary> Thanks for the link! I found a lot of good information there. :)

Spacebabie> Click my name with a link to a site with some info on SAD.

Later All!

***Kyryn pops back out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, August 11, 2000 12:53:20 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

12 days till classes start
38 days till the troll ships off

Yes my little countdown has started. If I knew when the new season's of Buffy and Angel was about to start I'd post them as well.

DBZ News>>> Cartoon Network is gonna be airing the Android saga soon.

Jenna>>Congratulations

Kyrn and Mary Flanders>>>I'm sorry about what happened that caused you to have such traumatic experiances in school,,,ever sine thoes commercials for Paxil have aried my family is saying I might have SAD, cause I'm not as outgoing as my brother. So I might have it.

Kyrn 2>>> You think roaches are big in Texas???You havent seen them down here yet. one comedian once said"Florida doesnt have bugs, they have Star Wars" But I remember living in Texas during my parents brief separation and twice we had scorpions in the house.

Bad Teachers good Teachers/ Well I remembered having this one teacher during fifth grade who was detenion happy, and my 8th grade Physics teacher was a bitca as well but I mostly remembered a lot of good teachers, my sixth grade English Teacher really got on peoples cases when they teased or picked on others, My Senior English teacher taught us about the Truth of MacBeth before it even aired on gargoyles,My Piano teacher and my Art Teacher were also great...now We get to College first Community again Mr. Wolf my drawin instructor,My Creative Writing teacher, Mr Rogers my first writing teacher, Ms Brown my mythology in art and Literatur teacher were all cool. My 20th Century humanities instructor was great, he let me in the class even though it was after applications wer closed since my other humanities class was cancelled at the last second, and there was this one Proffesor who I had three classes with((I needed to pass 4 prequisit math classes)) He helped me understand the sunject better and actualy look foreward to attending math class.I HATE math BTW, but beacuse of him I earend out to do percentages and figure out puzzles and wierd mathamatical equations even scored B's out of his classes, oh and most recent mr Applen mySCFI lit teacher.
Doug I loved your list and The CR's own Tenchi aka the Green Baron as one of the VA's sounds great.

DPH>>I seemed you became victim or FireStorm's Dern Lot Boys too

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, August 11, 2000 11:37:44 AM
IP: user-37kap1r.dialup.mindspring.com

***Kyryn backs in the doorway, wielding a flamethrower against several giant roaches. She fries them to krispy critters and turns to address the room.***

Boy, they grow 'em big in Texas. I swear every time I turn around there's another big one in the house!

Thanks for the comments on my childhood hardships, everyone. Actually, I got my revenge: I'm a sucessful, well-adjusted (well...relatively. I hang out here... :) ), adult and can talk about this with others. *grin* It happened. I survived. And I learned who my friends were and the true definitions of friendship. (Friends will help you move...Real friends will help you move bodies!) BTW, that means you folks here in the CR, too.

SOROW> Good luck with A.P European History! I remember that my A.P. courses were really good for teaching me what college courses would be like in terms of courseload and content. Be careful and don't neglect your health while you are trying to do everything. I remember that I also overloaded myself during my senior year in high school and gave myself a kidney infection as a result of not taking care of myself. Again, best of luck!

Jenna> Congrats on the contract!

Gside and Niamhgold> The four superstition also comes into play in Japan. There it is related to the fact that the word for death is "shi". However, this is also the word for "four". It is considered bad luck if a sake (Japanese rice wine) drinking set has four cups. True Japanese ones are made with five cups or, if it has four, the fourth cup is broken without ever being used.

Teachers> I remember a lot of good ones and only a few bad ones. *grin* I hated Mr. Myrick, my fourth grade teacher, because he made us do hundreds of math problems. However, I went back about five years later and thanked him for that because I really knew my basic math and it helped immensely in later years.

Later All!

***Kyryn turns and walks out the door, talking on a cell phone with Okami. "No, I don't think that nuking the site from orbit is an option..." Her voice fades as she walks off.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, August 11, 2000 09:59:12 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Daria Movie>> Actually, they were promoting the Daria movie on MTV the other day. It's scheduled to run Aug. 27 (?) commercial free on MTV. It's rumored that it's going to tie up all the loose plot threads from this season.
Spike
Friday, August 11, 2000 09:31:02 AM
IP: ppp35-29.ght.iadfw.net

Hello, I'm Gohar. I'm looking sponsor for my study in Netherlands.
Gohar - [gohar_arshakian@hotmail.com]
Yerevan, Armenia
Friday, August 11, 2000 09:18:15 AM
IP: 195.161.127.1

Today was yet another funfilled day with my cousin spent watching anime. Watched all of Bubblegum Crisis, Pokemon the Movie, a few eps of Trigun, Space Battleship Yamoto, (Starblazers condensed a bit into a movie just over two hours long...) and Wayne's World. This on top of a trip to one of the local malls and stuff... (I finally managed to pick up the first half of Slayers TRY! Woo hoo!) I'm having a great deal of fun, pity he'll be leaving on Saturday... AH well, I'll be able to get back to the TGS stories I'm supposed to be writing then...

Entity- I'm afraid my DBZ tapes are all between 4th and um... 9th generation copies. As a result, the subtitles are basically unreadable for almost all of them, and the picture is HORRIBLE or most of them. With my VCR equipment, the things would not survive a transfer beyond maybe the sound, and even that has diluted... Even my copies of movies 5-12 are not likely to transfer, since those things are degrading from consistant repeat viewings... However, search online. There's HUNDREDS of fansub sites that have copies closer to second or third generation that can get you copies for basically cost...

SJ- Have I ever read those Gundam books? Are you kidding? This is _ME_ we're talking about. Where the Gundam books are concerned, I've... Never heard of them before until you mentioned them. Heh. 8)

By the by, interesting RP stuff. I look forward to getting back into it, tho TGS work and the dreaded "College" thing coming upon me in another couple of weeks will be keeping me busy...

Gasper- Same basic deal for your situation. Do a dogpile websearch for anime music and you should come across something. Chumkins.net is a very good site for a lot of stuff and it has links, so yoiu may want to check that out.

Aaron- You back in San Antonio yet? I suppose not, just remember, we're supposed to meet up for Godzilla 2000!

Fire Storm- Well that's a rather mean teaser! Unless they have a marathon sometime soon, the season finale of Daria won't be on again until around October at the earliest!

Robby
Friday, August 11, 2000 05:27:46 AM
IP: spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com

Warpmind> <<I do look a bit at the math here... with over 90% tax total per bottle, you can probably safely assume that more than 90% of the sold alcoholic drinks are either moonshine or smuggled across the border... THAT is what I meant.>> Ah. Well, halting smuggling is a noble endeavor...I'll see to it. ^_^

Sarge> <<Do't ask about the tutus...=).....It is a LONG story.>> Ah...you're right, I won't ask... O_o

DPH> <<Is there any computer program or website out there that allows me (on a computer) to send a message to a cell phone if I know the cell phone number?>> Doesn't Windows come with a phone dialer?

Birthday people> Happy belated birthday! ^_^ <lots of cyber gifts>

Gside> <<Multiplexors (MUXs) shoot one signal off onto a chosen (with other inputs, using binary) wire out of a group. It is needed to split the signal between small RAM chips when making a large chip from standard components. That probably didn't make any more sense.>> Actually it did. ^_^ <<Ever seen one of a run by shoveling?>> This, I think I'd like. >:) <<Nah, won't be that good without duct tape or police light bars (I know a source).>> Hm...I'll have to look into that. >:) <<Ahh, could be interesting, if rather dark.>> Oh, quite. Really twisted stuff; there's this one jack-in-the-box that would send a kid into therapy for years...<<What messed me up was hearing it was being built with a quake-type engine.>> The Quake 3 engine, actually. Great graphics. ^_^ <<They also have done a wide variety of pieces. I have some of them doing Final Fantasy and Super Mario Bros music.>> <POING POING> When will you get to those? 8D

Doug> Poem> Very kewl. ^_^ Cast list> Glad to see I'm not the only one who devotes way too much thought to my casting. ;P j/k Mine is at my name link; it's kind of incomplete, but I'm making progress. ^_^

Gunjack, Xanathar> Welcome back! ^_^

SRSJ> Sorry you have to leave; hope the move goes well, and that you can return soon...

Newcomers> Welcome. ^_^ Deposit your sanity, and careful of the blood puddles...

<moment of silence for Sir Alec Guiness>

Emambu> <<Good to hear from you. I hope you had fun on your vacation.>> Yup. ^_^

Cyborg> <<The five states of matter are: solid, liquid, gaseous, and plasma>> I thought plasma was a specialized form of gas? <<Go with Linux, its so much easier and it does not crash as much, plus it is free.>> Is it compatible with Windows and DOS games? :)

SJ> <<Showtime has begun showing a "new" Blair Witch documentary called "The Burkettsville Seven", which is about the 7 children that recluse Rusty Parr murdered in the BWP mythology.>> I've seen that...a lot of fascinating new information there I can use... >:) <<this episode didn't blow my skirt up (and I was wearing one, honest!)>> There's a Rocky Horror joke in here somewhere, but I can't quite figure it out. I'll attend to it later. ;P <<Although I'm sure Robby already knows their names and complete bios, since he's probably already seen the entire season.>> I have; in RealVideo format. I love www.tfextreme.com. ^_^

GXB> <reads rant about father> My GODS...it amazes me that anyone could say or do the kinds of things he has. >:/ Glad your mother and your shrink are on your side; maybe they can talk some sense into the guy, or at least keep him out of your way...<<Hmm, I got a little too emotional below. My feelings towards my father are still the same but maybe I shouldn't have posted that rant.>> Trust me, after what you've gone through, you're entitled to it. Besides, there aren't too many better places to vent than here. :)

Jannie> <<I went to the school today to sign my leave of absence papers and ran into the b!tch principal. The first thing out of her mouth was, " you and my husband both wear low cut shirts just to show off your scars.">> Oh gods, why won't this stupid <censored> just leave you alone?! >:/ Saying something like that to you, after all you've been through...the nerve...<grrr> Glad you're looking into ways to keep her off your back, and I'm glad you're getting away from her next year...

Fire Storm> <<Have you heard about "American McGee's Alice" video game coming out? Looks like you may like it!>> I know *I* will...I have a movie and some screenshots of it, and it has become one of my current obsessions. ^_^ (I hear there'll be action figures from it...gotta get the Cheshire Cat one) <<Hey, remember that REAL jerk I told everyone about? Ya know... the one that wouldn't stop calling, called on holidays and days he knew I was sick/busy, etc. Well, guess who is suing me? Thats right! And do you want to know why? [...] because I WON'T RETURN HIS CALLS!>> OK, time for him to die. Where'd I leave my cheese grater...<<Or you pay $200 for the modem. Not TOO bad... but if you break the 5 year contract you pay $700!>> Contract...? o_o <<Remember at the begining of the RP? I tried to stop it by destroying the universe!>> Um...sorry, wasn't here back then. :}

Entity> <<I don't mean to make light of things, but Greg Weisman a cult leader!>> The Church of Weismanology? ;P

Robby> <<So I'm a good deal less informed where music is concerned, tho I do know a few websites...>> Hm...there's this one song from the first Pokemon movie with which I've become slightly obsessed...it was this kind of spooky, mysterious bit that sounded much like it was originally composed for a music box, that I came to think of as the theme of Mewtwo's creepy little herald/servitor, since it played every time she appeared...<<Voice of Isaac Payne- Well, since no one seems to remember the voice I said I prefferred for him last time, this time around I'll say Eric Stuart, better known as the voice of Brock on Pokemon, just to gauge reaction.>> Ehh...I don't know; he doesn't sound very evil to me. <shrug>

Kitainia> <<You should definitely read more of Stephen King's work, it's very intriguing. Needful Things is my personal favorite, and of course don't forget Christine, Pet Sematary, and The Running Man. :) The Stand's also great too, if a bit long.>> Thanks for the recommendations. ^_^ I've heard a lot about a series called The Dark Tower; is it very good? <<Thanks for telling me about the Yellow Sign.>> Glad to oblige. ^_^

Bad Teachers> <reads the various accounts from the others> Gads, these people sound awful...someday, hopefully, the administrations will wake up and realize what kind of people seem to be in their employ...

Kyryn> <<Hey, I had to live with being teased for about eight years because I survived being raped by a stranger as a child.>> Whaaat...?!! <grrrrrrr> [Unable to find the words to express the way he feels about this, Wilek completely eviscerates Mr. Disconnect, Sli Sludge, and JRSU with his bare hands.]

Jenna> <<guess who just signed their first writing contract- with the company my hubby is working for--the pres wants me to write a novel for it!! And i'm gonna get paid- yea!! happy happy dancing!! happy happy dancing!!>> Congratulations! ^_^

Niamhgold> Gargoyles Go Hawaiian> <ROTFLMTO>

Mandolin> <<he didn't like the idea of sharing an apartment in OC with four women who refer to themselves as Plague, Pestilence, Chaos (me), and War. (Death is in Connecticut, and Pain had to work.)>> And why not? It sounds fun. ^_^

Wilek Nereus
Friday, August 11, 2000 05:13:00 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

*Warpmind enters.*

Shadowrider: Well, if you ask me, with EU and all, European politics appear to be rapidly headed the Way of the Dodo. :|

Green Baron: Yeah, yeah... so you have dishonest politicians. In my book, that's still two notches above politicians who just move into position and, well... ever seen how a leech tends to attach itself, and grow fat where it sits?

Niamhgold: "Goodbye" in Hawaiian is "Aloha". Just as "Hello" is "Aloha". Don't ask me why; that's just the way it is...

Fire Storm: Admittedly, there are advantages to living in Norway. Such as jobs for almost everyone. However, that is secondary to me; I have great ethical problems when it comes to acknowledging a country where the REGULAR Sales Tax is 23%, and there are some forms of merchandise that are taxed by 400+%. In the case of alcohol, 900+%. I'm not a regular drinker; sure, I enjoy a beer, or a small sip of Scotch on occasion, but I'd sure like to get the feeling I can *afford* it, as well... :(

Mary Flanders: Sure we Aspergers need people to understand. We need to make people see that we aren't all some elusive, realism-challenged geeks - we can be just as delusional, irrational and blithely ignorant as anyone else. ;)

Gside: You're calling a Necromancer "Binky"? *Scans entire neural reference archive (i.e. gray matter).* Um, how 'bout Casper? ;) Oh, and as far as I recall it, the correct quote is "Et tu, Bruta?", not "Brute". 'Course, I could be mistaken.

Emambu: Well, it's not the first time I've heard of AOL causing problems... Everyone who's heard of AOL problems, raise a hand. *Raises hand.*

Well, seems about it... except a small Diablo II anecdote. I have reached Act IV, and had managed to get my hands on this pike, see, that made the monsters run. A powerful pike, too; did a lot of damage. It was kinda weird to see my homeboy sneak up behind a Venom Lord, poke'im in the hiney, and watch said Venom Lord run away, seemingly on his toes... :) Cracked me up every time...

Well, Aloha, amigos.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 11, 2000 05:08:52 AM
IP: mp-216-237-38.daxnet.no

Just realized I made three small mistakes in that list. Heh.
Here's the corrected version (the picks below were old choices that have since been updated):

Tainethal: Sebastian Roche.
Rex Barnes: John St. Ryan.
Max "Greenhead" Harris: Alonzo Greer.

Sorry about that.

Doug
Friday, August 11, 2000 04:13:45 AM
IP: pool-209-138-161-238.dlls.grid.net

GXB: Great TGS cast picks, thanks mucho for posting them. I can see pretty much all the actors doing the roles, even though some seem like typecasting. Especially like Mark Hamill as Loki and Lacy Chabert as Arianna. :) Here's some of my own picks for some of the original characters in my fanfic series, just for the heck of it. :)-

AGONY: Christopher Walken.
Seth: Brian Thompson.
Laura James: Renee O'Connor.
Zack Sheppard: Jeff Daniels.
Kara Ripley: Claire Danes.
Johnny Ireland: Johnny Depp.
Larry King: Will Ferrell.
Rex Barnes: George Carlin.
Victor "Zip" Cassidy: Marlon Wayans.
Chrissy Holmes: Aieyella (sp?).
John Holmes: Denzel Washington.
Phillip "Doc" Perkins: Micheal Clarke Duncan.
Rachel Xanatos: Rachel Leigh Cooke.
Morton Langley: Laurence Fishburne.
Nikki Holliday: Katherine Hiegl.
Liz Traherne: Janeane Garofalo.
Brad Weston: Alexis Denisof.
Jadriel/Daniel Jade: Kevin Spacey.
Tara Reed/Tiamat: Camryn Manheim.
Cortesia: Kirsten Dunst.
Cynthia "Crow" Marshall: Bianca Lawson.
Gary Parker: Jay Mohr.
Bob Page: Stephen T. Kay.
Rialtos: Tate Donovan.
Richard "The Rose" Fisk: Scott Cleverdon.
Moro: Elijah Wood.
Mitch "Muscles" Malone: George Clooney.
Edward Salton: Edward Norton.
JC Bailey: Ian Zierling.
Max "Greenhead" Harris: Ice Cube.
Charlie Ketcham: Jeff Bennett.
Mandi Ketcham: Ally Walker.
NYPD Commissioner Anthony Friedman: Craig T. Nelson.
NYPD Chief Ronald Sterns: Dennis Franz.
Denobius: Dennis Rodman.
Gordion: Clancy Brown.
Mortesan: Dwight Schultz.
Killik: Danny DeVito.
Varg & Wave: Rob Paulsen.
Cerulean: Kathy Ireland.
Jubris: Nicholas Brendon.
Katrine: Alyson Hannigan.
Tyrac: Marc Blucas.
Mianmos: Alec Guiness (back from the dead :).
Null: Alan Rickman.
Isacc Taggart: Gary Sinise.
Bill Juddson: Charlie Sheen.
Kelvin Hayes: Isacc Hayes.
Justin Brumley: Ben Stein.
Thomas Greene: Our own Green Baron.
Simon Kurtz: Leonard Nimoy.
Jacob Kurtz: Edward Furlong.
Naomi Kurtz: Linda Hamilton.
Peter Kurtz: Andrew J. Ferchland.
Fred Donovan: Micheal Ironside.
Joe Thompson: Kevin Bacon.
Jason Stewart: Leonard Roberts.
Nick Mackovic: Alec Baldwin.
Elaine Taylor: Susan Lucci.
Silvan Farrow: Gary Oldman.
Benito Cruz: Burt Reynolds.
Stray: Mario Van Peebles.
Tainethal: Jeremy Irons.
Micheal Canmore: Dolph Lundgren.
Del Dawson: Will Smith.
Jenner Slovak: Tommy Lee Jones.
Zarah Slovak: Ashley Judd.
Harry Russell: Mitch Pileggi.
Sam Rainey: Micheal Biehn.

I know I have many others, but these are the ones I'm pretty sure about. May get to the rest at some other time. <grin> Will try to post more tomorrow too. Later!

Doug
Friday, August 11, 2000 03:56:51 AM
IP: pool-209-138-161-238.dlls.grid.net

I apologize for the double-post but I almost forgot...

Jenna: Congratulations on your contract!

Also, I apologize for any typos in the previous post but it's very late here, and I need to go home and get some sleep. :) Take care,


---Emambu

Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 03:00:25 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

*Emambu strolls to the door of the CR in flanked by two burly men. One of them knocks on the door and a nervous DC answers "Who is it?" "Goons," is the only reply. "What?" DC asks. "Hired Goons," comes the curt reply from the other side of the door. "Hired goons?" DC asks more to himself then anyone else. He then proceeds to open the door, only to have a bag thrown over his head by one of the men. The second one grabs DC by the neck and the two goons drag him down the hallway and around a corner. Unfazed, Emambu enters the room.*

Hello all! Sorry about the ruckus, *Emambu pauses as faint, muffled screams emanate from around the corner* but my modem has been shot to hell. I'm posting this from a friend's house before I head home and spend a sleepless night working on it.

Shadowrider: Thanks for the three hints. :) The second one was really good. BTW, I did want to go to Naples, but my parents wouldn't let me. They had read about kids getting kidnapped in that city recently, so they were afraid the same thing would happen to me.

As for poetry, I agree that tragic poems can be moving. However, for me poems about love or lost love can be equally memorable. That's why I want to recommend the works of Pablo Neruda to anyone who feels the same way.

Cyborg: Yes, Sider Robinson... that's where I got it from. Thank you. Wow, I can see I was clearly off the mark though thinking that plasma was an element. :)

Greg Bishansky: Thank you very much for the TGS cast list. I think most of those look good although I think I can see where there might have been disagreement (I just can't see Walter Koenig playing Dr. Goldblum in voice or as a live character). However, most appear to good choices (Tony Jay as Madoc, Mark Hamil as Loki... etc.).

Also, I'm sorry to hear about the relations between you and your dad. I'm glad to know that there are others on your side, and I hope everything works out. It seems kind of ironic though that he would treat you like that after being in your position all those years ago. Also, keep in mind that you can always vent in here if you need to.

Sevarius Jr: Thanks for the information on The Blair Witch 2. Also, I don't think your statements about the police were off the mark at all. Police brutality is a very real issue, but you can't expect to hide behind a defense suit after getting injured by a cop because you took a swing at him. After the convention, some people tried to get our Police Chief, John Timminey (sp), in trouble because he drew his gun on a few protestors. However, what they didn't say at first was that these people ganged up on Timminey, and nearly threw him off his bike. He only pulled his gun out when all other attempts to ward off the protestors failed.

Back in July, a black man was beaten up by about thirty cops. Many people jumped right in claiming that the reason behind the beating was racial. I don't think it had anything to do with the fact that the guy was black. I do think that it had everything to do with the fact that the guy had a rap sheet as long as may arm, a guy who carjacked an elderly couple, forced them out of the car, drove off in it, recklessly endangered the lives of citizens who were on the street at the time, drew his gun and shot at police after he was cornered, hit a cop in the hand, then stole a cop car, drove around in it, and then fought back when police finally reached the car and tried to pull him out of it. THAT'S what sparked the short beating IMHO.

Mandolin: Great pictures! I'm glad to hear that you had a good time at the convention.

Jannie: I'm sorry to hear about the principal giving you lip about your scars. it's sounds like she has some issues that she needs to work out. Is this going to be your last year of teaching, period, or is this just going to be your last year of teaching at that school?

Niamhgold: LOL! I can just picture Brooklyn's reaction to that statement. I just hope for his sake that Sata isn't around to see it. :) Also, I know that "lai" is a necklace of flowers, but somehow I don't believe that that's what you were thinking at the time. ;)

Firestorm: Wait a minute... you're being sued because you won't return some losers phone calls? Excuse me for a moment. *Emambu disappears for five full minutes. When he returns, tears are streaming down his face as he stifles the remnants of his laughing fit.* Sorry, but I had to get that out of the way. Now, do you want me to take care of this problem for you? It would be my distinct pleasure. *Motions for his two hired goon to come foward.* :)

Brooklyn: I'm glad you're back. I'll be looking for that new episode tomorrow, and I'll be sure to e-mail you my comments.

Taleweaver: Remember, even though Liberman was one of the first to criticize Clinton, he still voted against impeachment. I think this is because Liberman saw that what Clinton did was immoral both as a human, and as a father. However, it didn't warrent the witch hunt-like trials that the conservative Republicans conducted. I think Liberman was a way for Gore to distance himself from Clinton socially. During the Democratic Convention, much of Gore's speech consisted of family values. However, I don't think he wants to sever all ties because he does want to credited with the eight years of economic success that the country has endured.

Cult of Greg: *Emambu scurries around a corner and stays there for over fifteen minutes. When he finally returns, his face is beet red, and his whole body is trembling.* I'm sorry again, but that's just funny. :)

Steve: Welcome to the CR. Deposit any sanity left in your head at the door, and have fun.

Kitainia: Thanks for the concern. The stitches are alreay out, and the doctor says that within a few months you won't be able to tell that it got slashed. BTW, you're right that most of the protestors down there were there just to cause trouble. A few had genuine concerns and surprise, surprise, they were the ones that were well conducted. The ones that got out of hand were strated by people just looking for trouble. At least, that's what I got out of my interviews.

Mary: I'm sorry to hear about what happened. it's a harsh truth but kids can be cruel. I think most of the time it's because they just don't know any better.

Kyryn: That's terrible! I can't imagine how anyone could make fun of a traumatic experience like that. For whatever it's worth, you have my sympathies.

Warpmind: Yeah, it was AOL all right. *sigh* just two more weeks left... I have to hang in there for just two more weeks.

Bad Teachers: I spent most of time in a private school so I feel that I've been blessed with pretty good teachers so far. However, I did have one completely incompetant teacher: My 10th grade chemistry teacher Mrs. Portnoy. Here was a woman who just didn't know how to do her job. On more then one occasion she jepordized her life as well as the lives of her students because she couldn't correctly perform an experiment. As far as I was concerned, she was the Tim Taylor of chemistry. Did she punished, reprimanded, or suspended because of this? No. The reason is because she has tenure. In addition she was one of the most unfair graders. No matter what kind of work you did, your grade was dependant on whether or not she liked you. As an experiment I copied some kid's lab practically word for word. Are data was the same. The theme in our discussion was the same. yet he got an A and I got a C. I then met with her three times so as to improve my next lab. I did everything she asked me to do yet I got C+ on it. I still can't logically figure it out to this day how that happened.

However, not all my teachers were bad. In fact, Mrs. Portnoy was the only one I didn't like. As far as memorable teachers go I'd have to say that my 9th grade English teacher Mr. Franek stands out the most. This guy was a control freak to no end, but he was very encouraging to his students to keep trying and revising our stories. He got me hooked into creative writing, which is something I have enjoyed over the past few years. I owe him a lot for that.

SOROW: Good luck with your exams. Don't forget to post here when it's all over so we know that you survived. :)

Well, that's all for now. Take care everyone,


---Emambu

Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Friday, August 11, 2000 02:56:11 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

You know your family is strange whan everyone gets excited about mutant corn.

Warpmind> <<Marius is the *accurate* Latin form of the name. Marie is the feminine version>>: You're arguing with Bill? The guy's name was Brutus, and yet Jules still sait "Brute." Eh, sorry about that, thought you would catch the reference.
By the way, I'm starting a new Necroboy. I'm calling him Binky, after a ghost.

Patrick Toman> <<are there any teachers you've had who stand out in your mind as being some of the most terrific people you've ever known?>>: Well, there's my 7th and 9th grade science teacher. Great teacher, love his taste in lab coats and ties (think amazing technicolor labcoat with giant sequense tie), but I can't seem to get rid of the guy. He seems to follow me everywhere.

Jenna> Congratulations on the contract.

Niamhgold> <<a mere 8 hours from my home in N.Y.>>: It takes us seven to go from mid jersey to mid New Hampshire.
<<I'm just so into Chinese mythos right now since I finished reading Amy Tan's "Hundred Secret Senses" a week ago>>: I only know that little bit because I had just seen a cooking show where a guy decided to add a fifth dumpling for supersitious reasons.

Shadowrider> <<I finally got Diablo II. I played a couple of hours last night>>: But the big question is, which character?

Fire Storm> <<Actually, it's third-person and more puzzle-based than anything>>: Ahh, could be interesting, if rather dark. What messed me up was hearing it was being built with a quake-type engine.
<<These Boston Pops songs are pretty good>>: Why, thank you. I rather like them myself, after what Arthur Fedler, John Williams, and Leroy Anderson have done for them. They also have done a wide variety of pieces. I have some of them doing Final Fantasy and Super Mario Bros music.
<<a sideways 8 "A lazy eight" was the symbol for infinity>>" AKA lemniscate. Yes, my brain is full of useless knowledge.

SOROW> Good luck dealing with the upcoming anticipated stresses.

In case you were wondering, the teacher I mentioned previously is actually my father.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, August 11, 2000 02:32:54 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hello to all. I'm taking AP European History and I'm already dead! It's going to be so hard and I'm going to have so much stress during the year with drill team and all. I told my work that I could only work on Sundays and one other weekday every week and they said that was fine cause I'm a good worker :) So I guess that's good anyway.
SOROW
Friday, August 11, 2000 12:00:54 AM
IP: dll2a020-0706.splitrock.net

Shadowrider: <<MTV wants to use the success of audience Daria has in the best way.>>
It seems to me like MTV is virtually ignoring Daria. Every other week it seems like they are not showing Daria because of some stupid Road Rules/Real World thing.

BTW... when was the last time you saw a Daria marathon?
I can't remember that far back either.

How about a Road Rules/Real World one? It seems like they have one every other weekend.

Dern Lot Boys! It is SO hard to type correctly with these stupid Band-Aids.

Band Aid... that sounds like it would be the name of a fund raiser for up and coming bands! (And yes, I know that there really was a Band Aid)

How about Kool Aid? A charity to help boost the sales of lesser know cigarettes?

Lemon Aid! Farmers sing songs to help raise citrus awareness.

Gator Aid: Football players sing to help make people aware of the plight of the Flordia aligators.

Marmal-Aid. I have NO idea what this would be for... um... to help with awareness of large great danes?

Getting P-Aid: A charity for increasing the awareness of the low wages and poor treatment of computer field technicians.

Marital Aid... Hmm... Some things are better left unsaid. (OR at least unsaid on this page. On my random rambling page on the other hand...)

Ivonna Get L-Aid... See above.

GARG AID! Yeah! THATS what we need!
A bunch of bands singing a filk of "We are the world" at G2K+1!

(Well, this is what you get when I am tired and have LM next to me!)

Good night and have a plesant tomorrow!

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:42:17 PM
IP: 08-067.008.popsite.net

Kryn>click on the link on the previous post. (silly me, forgot to write about that! ;P)
Mary
Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:09:29 PM
IP: ramp-2-19.ucdavis.edu

Kryn>Sure thing! :) We Asperger people need more people to understand what its like for us.
Mary Flanders
Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:06:22 PM
IP: ramp-2-19.ucdavis.edu

***BEGIN RP***
Kitty stepped forward and approached SJ and Sammael. "Are you both ready?" she asked.
"Wait!" Sammael said nervously. "Exactly what are you planning to do here?"
"It's easy," SJ reassured him. "We're gonna switch bodies. My soul will once again re-inhabit my own body, and your demon essence will be transported into this cool necroplasmic body."
"Uh....alright. But she does know what she's doing, right?" Sammael asked.
"Sure. I think."
Kitty took each of the two SJs and gently took their hands into her own. Her eyes glowed briefly, and soon so did both of their eyes as well. A bright light engulfed the three of them, and when it dissipated, the three looked much the same as they did before.
SJ patted his body. "It worked! I'm in my old body! Ah....flesh! Real honest to God flesh! Today I feel like a real boy!"
Sammael, on the other hand, began to shake. His body began to convulse. "W-w-what is t-t-this?" he mumbled, but any dialogue he was attempting to utter was cut off. His body shook with tremors, but the locomotion had a purpose. His new necroplasmic body began to twist and form a new shape. His skin deepened into a dark red. Small horns sprouted upon his forehead, and a forked tail emerged from his tailbone. His muscles tightened, and his hair became jet black. When the tremors stopped, Sammael stood revealed as the demon he truly was.
"Is...Is that what you really look like?" Kari asked.
Sammael nodded. "Yep, this is me. In all my glory." In truth, he looked remarkably handesome--and human--for a demon. Kari noticed this.
SJ sulked. "You know, you can show a little more enthusiasm for me."
***END RP****

Not much tonight. Slow day today....

Bad Teachers: I was fortunate to be able to attend a private school in the later days of my high school education, so I was blessed with some pretty good teachers.
Except for this one teacher in high school. He was the bad kind. The VERY bad kind. How so, you ask? Figure this equation: Underrage students + X = Jail time. I think you can figure out what X equals. It's scandalous.
In college I've had some a few bad teachers. A couple were just monster pricks...I'm sure that the rest of you who have taken some "higher education" can relate. But most of what I would perceive as bad tearchers were just people who were not interested or really involved in the class they were teaching.

Pat Buchanan: Wanna know what a wasted vote looks like? It's Pat Buchanan. Somehow I doubt that either of the "Big Two" are all that worried by Pat Buchanan. The only people who really seem to dig Buchanan are the KKK and the supremacists. If in the upcoming election Buchanan pulls a 1 percent, I'll be shocked. His own party can't even stand him. But it's good to have him around. He makes all of us Republicans--whom, it would seem at least to me, is truly considered the "evil" party, at least by many...most in the media--look good.
Buchanan did have one good policy platform, though. He wanted to build a wall around the southern border of this country to keep them goshdarn immigrants out. BRILLIANT idea! Why can't Bush or Gore take up this banner?!
That's a joke. Honest.

Jenna: **hugs Jenna** Congratulations on the writing contract! I'm proud of you! I know that you and Mike have had hard times in the past, and I'm so glad that now it seems as if both of you are rolling up 7s. Of course, since you do have a professional writing contract, I'm insanely jealous of you. I declare dibs on the first autographed copy of the book!! :)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:42:19 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

FS: <Whats here, cheap booze?>
Ya know... after reading that, that sounds REALLY bad!

2² = 4 = -(-4)

Fire Storm
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:19:02 PM
IP: 02-152.008.popsite.net

<FS enteres the CR with bandages on his fingers>
Word of wisdom for the day: Don't scoop hot rice out of a bowl with your fingers.

Gside: <first person shooters don't really seem to be my thing.>
Actually, it's third-person and more puzzle-based than anything.
<MP3>
These Boston Pops songs are pretty good!

Robby: <What the heck happened in the finale?>
Well, I won't tell all, but lets just say it involved Daria, a male, and pressing together of lips!
(Just wait until the made for MTV movie August 27!)

Entity: Yeah, but did your computer include 256mb of RAM for that price?

Warpmind: <And my US Citizenship application?>
Oh, your just saying that! Whats here, cheap booze? Your country has it's perks, the US has it's perks, but both have downsides.
Just try getting a decent job to pay for your VERY expensive apartment.

Abbadon_13: <Does anyone know when the next GARGOYLES series ep will come out???>
Yep. Monday September 15, 2003, as part of the new Disney afternoon. New episodes every Monday at 4:30 pm. Then, starting in early January, Timedancer replaces Gargolyes for the 4:30 position and Gargoyles re-runs will appear at 4:00.
Wait a minute...
OH... you meant TGS gargoyles! My mistake!

Bad teachers: Mr Valiant. 4th grade.
There was one student that carried his bag to class, turned into the class then dropped his books on his table. One day the teacher removed the table and the kid dropped the bag on the floor.
Then there was the time during parent/teacher confrences where he threw stuff at my mother...
And not to mention that I mentioned that a sideways 8 "A lazy eight" was the symbol for infinity, he told me that I was lazy 8.
A$$ho!e.

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 09:59:24 PM
IP: 02-152.008.popsite.net

<just lurking>
daphne, apprentice-wordsmith
Thursday, August 10, 2000 09:37:14 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.197.98.philadelphia1.level3.net

O, my, gosh, did someone say Aug.15 is the new episode date for Pendragon?? COOOL BEANS!!! :} Does anyone know when the next GARGOYLES series ep will come out???
*************************

politics>: sorry, Im not going to recommend voting for Al Gore, he's too close of a poker buddy to Clinton....not to mention a slum lord...(Nashville, Tennessee's shack.)

mean teachers>:Dont get me started on mean or incompetent teachers... they're probably still going to tell me i'll never amount to anything, even if i get a master's degree. (or further)
**A little Note**
Did somebody saay...the GATHERING, in INDIANA?? THat's close to me! Yay! Maybe I can go! (closes her eyes, whistfully, imagining actually going)

Abbadon_13 - [murfer@iquest.net]
lost in, Ohio, USA
Thursday, August 10, 2000 09:11:35 PM
IP: cc629709-a.nwhub1.in.home.com

** Niamhgold comes in for a quickie **

Aloha!

GB: Welcome back! Can't wait to hear details about G2K. And I want _details_!

Shadowrider: Heya, pal! I know you inquired about a certain e-mail that you sent...I don't think I received it. When was it sent? Thanks for your comments about Brian and I :) And "lai" is the name for the necklace of flowers Hawaiian natives wear (the ones that are bright colored and look like plastic) I hope that clears it up! (It's pronounced like "lay", however, and so has a dual American meaning... >:) )

Mandolin: I agree on your thoughts about LA--that's probably one of the biggest reasons I didn't go to NYC, simply because I'm not well enough versed with the area to let myself wander around. And LA, well...for an easterner who needs to be careful in _Boston_, it would be even tougher for me in the city of Angels.

DPH: Thanks for the update about Winterwolf! I was starting to get worried about the guy! :)

Adios, gang (and kudos to anyone who can remind me how to say "goodbye" in Hawaiian :)

Niamhgold
Thursday, August 10, 2000 08:26:29 PM
IP: lac-flex208.ncia.net

::The lights dim as thunder flases and the dying screams of Liberation Theologists can be heard in the distance. A lone figure appears. It's OJ Simpson with a blade dripping in blood, but next to him is the Green Baron::

Hello all!! I have been back in New Olreans since Tuesday night, howvere it took forever to read all the posts, plus I can only be on-line until 10:30.

Politics> I knew who Joe Lieberman was long before I herad oif him as a VP candidate, and I thought he'd be a good choice. He's a moderate Democrat and has been branded by the deranged and misbegotten progressives in Connecticut as a closet-Republican, which is a plus for Lieberman, IMO. Any enemy of a progressive is on my good list :)

I doubt it matters too much that he's Jewish, yet he is an observant Orthodox Jew, and people in America generally like people who are religious, regardless of faith. If Bush wins, I imagine Herr Kaiser von Gephardt will use that to brand Republicans for anti-semitism, especially if he becomes House Fuhrer er Speaker.

While I will probably vote for Bush or Harry Browne, I do hope that if Gore wins, he dies a horrible death very soon, because I think Joseph Lieberamn would make a good President, especially if he tells the Progressive crazies in his party to "go out to a parking meter and violate themselves", and I also prefer Lieberman's voice to that annoying soft-spoken redneck accent of Clinton's.

Warpmind and Shadowrider> Well, our politics are funny, but if you wnat a good laugh, focus on the ones in Louisiana. If not for Louisiana, America would go up about ten slots in the honest government scale :)

Shadowrider> Well, it's for teh ebst that I left my mother. I fell much less hatred for her, and now it is turning to antipathy, however I can only deal with her and her criticism for a small amount of time. I do wish I coudl be on-line longer at my father's, but that involves buying my own computer.

SJ> I am glad the media didn't try to trash Lieberman for being Orthodox. They don't liek religious folks and try to use Buchanan as the stereotypical devout Catholic. Of course, they love Schumer and wellstone, who are only Jewish in name and because of their mothers. I doubt Paul Wellstone or Chuck Schumer know what the inside of a synagouge even looks like. Too bad, we can't have a McCain/Lieberman bi-partisan ticket.

Kyryn> That's awful. I can't beleive children woudl tease you about that, or that it happened when you were so young. I've had my share fo mocking from children and I think they all need a good bloodletting.

Bad teachers> Well, I was pretty safe from that, but I had a sophomroe Religion teacher who didn't control the class too well, and she tried to brainwash the class with progressive propaganda, but she was decent, though I think Sr. Koorie may have blocked my attempt to be a Eucharistic Minsiter because she thought and told me she thought I was too involved in extracarriculars, though I had a 4.07 avergae my Junior year.

I have plenty of good etacjers, including Mr. Stabiler who cursed like a sailor in class, even after De La Salle went co-ed, along with Miss Calder who ran my HS's yearbook and would love Gargoyles if she had the time to watch it. I learned about the true MacBeth from her, long before Gargoyles aired. Mr. Greathouse was another great one, and I'm saddened that his cancer prevented him from teaching in the middle of the year and that he died from it the next year. He also had teh ebst way to stop a side conversation. he simply said that we could talk outside his room if we wanted to, and most students would stop talking and start listening.

De La Salle was excelelnt for me, but I hated grade school. I asked my mother once to teach me herself, but she wouldn't, though she was a housewife at the time and it woudl save her $3,000 a year, plus I'd be spared all the teasing. Oh well, another mark against my mother.

Cherry Blossom> Did you get my e-mail? I have your new address, so I sent it there.

Commentary about G2K to be at a later date. Bubye

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Thursday, August 10, 2000 07:56:10 PM
IP: adsl-78-220-248.msy.bellsouth.net

Taking a minute to post before I go pack... yes, I'm going to be out of town again this weekend, much to my boyfriend's dismay. Poor Dave. Of course, he didn't like the idea of sharing an apartment in OC with four women who refer to themselves as Plague, Pestilence, Chaos (me), and War. (Death is in Connecticut, and Pain had to work.)

Christine> Speaking of photos, LET ME KNOW when you get a certain one scanned... ;)

Jenna> A writing contract? That's wonderful!! Congratulations! (So... when you get published, you will let us know how to buy copies, right?) :)

G2001> I really want to go... but I'm leery about it for one or two reasons. First off, I don't even know where I'm going to be living next summer or where I'll be working (if at all). Second off, I really want to bring Dave to a con - he's not a Gargs fan, but he'd be up for a convention - but the location's going to turn him off big time. Third off... it's in L.A., which is one place I'm not eager to visit. :(

Patrick> As for how you're going to top this year's costume... I shudder (with antici-pation!) Sorry, couldn't resist.

G2K photos> I'm trying to make corrections that people have sent me... I may have a lot of them up tonight or tomorrow afternoon. In the meantime, I have to get offline, pack for the beach, and get everything put together for work tomorrow (I've GOT to get up on time for work; I can't afford to stay late tomorrow.)

Mandolin - [<-- G2K Pics!]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 07:36:58 PM
IP: pm35-80-208.iximd.com

One other bit of Harry Potter movie-related news: the exterior of Hogwarts will be "played" by Gloucester Cathedral.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, August 10, 2000 06:41:28 PM
IP: 216.87.46.223.dialup-stl.primary.net

Winterwolf's absence & RP related: Winter told me he would be gone this week. I expect him back by Monday morning. Darn, I will have to have the BFTS RP archived completed by the time he gets back. I have caught up with last week. I will attempt to catch up by Saturday night with archiving. Tomorrow, I will be finishing up catching up with the Speed Stars for a few days.

Pat Buchanan: Please do NOT let him win the Reform Party's nomination. Otherwise, he is the worst of the 3 evils. He is so far right than he thinks compromise with Democrats is a loss for Republicans. KKK endorsement of him sounds right and oughta make him think about his views.

Guys, can anyone out there tell me a way to tell me a way to determine if someone is kidding, lying, or telling the truth. Yesterday someone accused me of running over her feet while I was backing out to leave work. Today, I see the same person without a cast and walking normally.

I found out a work at an IS0 certified company and I have sign off saying I have read a book telling me how to do my job. The funny thing is there is not a specific book that says exactly what I am supposed to do everyday. So I have to read a book that is closely related to what I do. What is the deal with ISO certification anyways?

No BFTS RP today. I will have a long one planned for tomorrow, though.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, August 10, 2000 06:19:39 PM
IP: max1-12.cwy.cei.net

Good evening, friends. Good, everyone?

I finally got Diablo II. I played a couple of hours last night. Not bad, not bad, it seems...

Winterwolf:> Hey, pal, where are you? Seems an eternity I don't see you here.

Fire Storm:> Daria: yes, MTV wants to use the success of audience Daria has in the best way.

Warpmind:> Norwegian politics: come and stand in my country for a while...your country's politics will seem to you a paradise...;) Just to tell you, I too can't help but laugh when I hear of USA's political situation...

Kitainia:> Poem: Yes, it was kind of sad, isn't it? But I noticed that often sad poems are the best ones...sometimes it seems to me that we find real inspiration only if we think about sad things.

Bad teachers:> Well, I admit I had my share...at HS there was that maths teacher and, well...she didn't like me. So, no matter how I was prepared, my ratings were always insufficient. (I was not the only one in this situation...). Furthermore, she didn't know what she was supposed to teach. I had her for one year and half of another, then she went away and was replaced...in one week, my ratings stepped from 4/10 to 8/10...Anyway, I had also a lot of very good teachers...Mrs Saini, for example, who managed to teach Latin even to a hard-head like me...she taught me not only to know Latin, but to like it. And there were many others...

Niamhgold:> Garg merchand: Whoa, seems you had good luck! :)
I liked your Hawayan hints a lot! But, I have just a question...what is a lai?
<<Brian wishes you a hello, too--although we're still trying to figure how our relationship will work once college starts.>> I forgot to say before, but I'm really happy to know you are with someone! I hope Brian knows how luck he is in being with you...;). Anyway, I understand your current problem: I and Alessia are having the same thing, with my service...hmmm...

Not so much to say tonight.

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Thursday, August 10, 2000 05:32:15 PM
IP: h213-20-101.mi2.albacom.net

***Kyryn drops by***

Mary> Thanks for the clarification of Asperger's Syndrome. Do you happen to know of a good website that explains it? I'm curious and would like to find out a bit more about it.

***Kyryn disappears***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, August 10, 2000 04:22:00 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Kyrn>Actually, that's not neccesarily true in my case. Asperger's Syndrome affected my ability to relate with others and make friends. It also made me slow on picking up on social skills. I just acted like a really strange kid all around. My other classmates teased me because I didn't act normal, and just like with you, they saw me as being someone different that they didn't want to understand.
Mary Flanders
Thursday, August 10, 2000 03:51:29 PM
IP: ramp-1-44.ucdavis.edu

*Warpmind enters, reading a book.*
Hello again. Ever read a book called "Reflections", by Ibn Schacabao? It's quite intere... *gibber*

Niamhgold: Oh, those Hawaii suggestions are good. Particularly the Brooklyn & lai comment. I could visualize his expression VERY clearly there. :) As for the theory... I'm working on it; presently, I am using all available Illuminati resources for my study. ;)

Christine: Oooo, the transcript of the events at G2K is forthcoming? Is it safe to assume that also applies to my copy of Dark of the Elvenwood? :)

Well, now my kin (mother & sister) are nagging at me again. I'm out. See ya.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 10, 2000 02:09:38 PM
IP: mp-217-237-97.daxnet.no

Hi, all!
We are finally home and it's cool and cloudy here in WA like it's supposed to be ... what a relief! We had a great time at the con and on our vacation, with only one traumatic event (I got seperated from Tim & Becca at Magic Kingdom as we were leaving and it was a big mess). Anyway, I am working on my big ol' essay, am up to Friday afternoon already, and should have it done and ready to post along with many photos sometime late tomorrow or Saturday. All the news that's fit to print, and maybe even some of the dirt and good stuff too! ; ) A big thank-you to all who bought the book; Kenna is already ragging me about how evil I am, and I'm hoping to hear plenty of feedback because I crave attention! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 01:20:25 PM
IP: 07-126.009.popsite.net

Good/Bad Teachers>>> Personally, I try to purge the memory of the bad teachers, but I'm still very fond of Mrs. Straw, 9th grade English teacher who got me into Yearbook which started me into my career as a commercial artist, Mrs. Palmer who thought enough of a budding writer to go to bat for me to get me OUT of one of her classes because one of the popular girls had everyone picking on me, and Mrs. Preston who taught the Creative Writing program and sponsored the Writer's Anonymous club. Without them, high school would have been a dreary place.

*laughs* Of course, now that I've been to my 10th and my 20th high school reunions, I've had the last laugh. Miss Popular turned out to have started several businesses, gone bankrupt on them, and was divorced. There is justice in the universe....

Harry Potter Movie>> Alan Rickman would make such a great Snape! I love his villains!

Semi-Related Gargoyles News:
The next time you're in the grocery store, pick up a copy of the Aug. 15th issue of the National Enquirer, and turn all the way back to the inside back cover. There's a very leggy picture of Salli Richardson, aka Elisa Maza, who's in a show called "Family Law" now.

Spike
Thursday, August 10, 2000 09:39:46 AM
IP: ppp15-60.ght.iadfw.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hmm..what do I have to say today? Oh, yeah, over the course of the day yesterday, I went to our local church yardsale and was browsing around...when I found a moderately large (if *that* isn't an oxymoron :) pile of gargoyles items! I'd hit the jackpot--'cause, you gotta understand, around here we never really got garg merchandise. Unfortunately, I hadn't been able to find out the person that had donated it--but I did score a Demona, Brooklyn, Broadway, Goliath, Elisa, and vols. 1, 5, and 6 of the comic book <:D Yay!

Gathering 2001: Man, that looks like it's gonna be *awesome*! ** Whimpers pleadingly ** However, I doubt I'll be able to go--considering I couldn't even make it to the Gatherings that were held a mere 8 hours from my home in N.Y., it's unlikely I could go to one 3,000 mi away. But, hey, who knows what could happen? After all, the next thing on my list of stuff to get is a personal jet :)

Places for The upcoming Gatherings to be held:

- Definitely in the midwest. I'm not anywhere close to the midwest, however, it's only fair. Chicago, Indianapolis, something like that. :)

- Hey, why not try Boston, MA? Beantown? We're talking fun. Or maybe Portland, ME? :)

- One in the midatlantic region--Baltimore or Savannah or something :)

- Gargoyles go Hawaiian!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you see it now? Hula-garg! D@mmit, yeah!

** Careful, I'm in a bit of a naughty mood today, and hints will ensue ** ...

Bad teachers/good teachers: Wow, that sparked up some dialogue :) I've also had my share of good teachers, as well--Mr. Acker, English, junior year. Everyone hated him because he comes off as downright cruel, criticized everyone's writing, and discounted Hemmingway as a good author since he was "always trying to assert his masculinity." Well, _I_ liked him, since he had a satirical sense of humor, wasn't afraid to speak his mind, and wanted each of his students to have their own freedom. I was the only person to pull off an A that year :)

** "Demona's going to enact a magical spell that'll make the volcano erupt! Quick, we need to appease the gods with a sacrifice!" All eyes fall on Elisa **

Sorow: Wow, first day of school already? Don't worry, senior year is fun; just don't get taken up by senioritis :)

** "Goliath, just wear the shirt! It'll look cute on you!" He peers at the cotton and grimaces. "I'm not sure I'll like everyone calling me the "Big Kahuna. I thought that was only between you and me" >:) **

Kyryn: Ach, my hugs to you! Kids can be so cruel; but then, those might be the ones who grow up and, since they think their popularity will take them places and not hard work, they'll end up sorry that they ever took your presence for granted >:)

** "Broadway, stay _away_ from those coconuts! They're for Angela!" >:} ** "Broadway, I said stay _away_!"

Kit: Thanks for the wish about the workloads :) Come the fall, I won't even have either of the two jobs I have here since I'm going to college; I didn't even get awarded work-study! So you can see why I'm working my butt off to earn as much as I can now :) Brian wishes you a hello, too--although we're still trying to figure how our relationship will work once college starts.

** "Aloha, Brooklyn? Would you like a lai?" >:} **

Steve: Welcome! Heh, deposit your sanity and the maid will put it through the wash :)

Gside: < Four equivalent with death > I think you're right. And maybe I'm just so into Chinese mythos right now since I finished reading Amy Tan's "Hundred Secret Senses" a week ago :)

Random question: Can anyone come up with a theory as to why coworkers will call in sick on a day when nobody else is scheduled, but why they'll come to work sick with the flu (which I don't want!) on days when there's plenty of people to cover? The mysteries of this universe...

Hu-la-hu...Gargoyles go Hawaiian! Volcano gods beware! BWWWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
** Getting my hints, guys? **

Adios!

Niamhgold
Thursday, August 10, 2000 08:45:38 AM
IP: lac-flex245.ncia.net

Jenna > A flyer will be available for download and distribution once we get all the convention details nailed down and a website launched. Drop me your email and I'll put you on the list of people doing flyer distribution.

The same goes for anybody else who plans to attend conventions between September and next June. We need people all over the country to spread the word.

Thanks and see you next year!

kathy - [kapogge@excite.com]
Thursday, August 10, 2000 08:30:40 AM
IP: rr-165-123-73.atl.mediaone.net

Hey all- the gathering was a blast!!!I loved seeing my old friends and meeting new ones.

But we must have more people at the next gathering-- if we have 500 there is a chance we can get our beloved show on the air!!!!!!!!!!!!! I myself wasn't planning on going but I'm sure going now!!!!!

Xena trek- talk to the staff about getting a someone for you. I know someone who can sign, do you want me to talk to her- maybe she can come and help out.

TO THOSE IN CHARGE OF THE GATHERING--

I WILL BE HAVE CONTACT WITH A LOT OF CON GOERS- STARTREK, WHO WOULD BE INTRESTED IN COMING- I WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO ALOT OF CONS THIS YEAR- AND I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO HAND OUT FLYERS FOR THIS GATHERING--BUT I NEED THEM-- I NEED FLYERS- CAN I GET THEM FROM YOU- OR WILL THEY BE MADE--AND WHEN CAN I GET THEM. PLEASE PLEASE RESPOND!!!


And i have alittle announcement- guess who just signed their first writing contract- with the company my hubby is working for--the pres wants me to write a novel for it!! And i'm gonna get paid- yea!! happy happy dancing!! happy happy dancing!!

jenna
Thursday, August 10, 2000 08:21:40 AM
IP: 1cust251.tnt2.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

Hello to all new people de-lurking! I knew there had to me more fans out there.

Bad teachers > So we've all had bad teachers at one time or another... some of them worse than others. So how about the opposite end of that spectrum? Have your experiences been ALL bad, or are there any teachers you've had who stand out in your mind as being some of the most terrific people you've ever known? I had many great teachers in HS, encountering most of them for the first time in my junior and senior year.

The Gathering > Who is saying G2001 is gonna be the last one? I sure as heck hope not! We'll be getting set to receive bids for 2002 very soon, and there were even people thinking as far ahead as 2007 at G2K, pondering taking the Gathering back to NYC for the ten year anniversary. As big as gargs con number five (woo... sudden filk demon) in 2001 is going to be, we need to see 2002 be even bigger, and see the cons keep growing and growing as time goes on.

So don't be surprised to see the official CR countdown to 2001 begin very soon!

Patrick Toman
Thursday, August 10, 2000 06:50:21 AM
IP: acaa2f28.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind enters, digging out about three metric tons of grub from his eyes, and yawns.*
Ugh... I hate getting up in the morning... my internal clock must be set for LA or something... maybe I'm subconciously preparing myself for Gathering '01... :|

Kitania: Actually, my comment about passport and application form was only made in half-jest. Then again, that also means that it was half-serious... I'll consider your offer. But first: get the necessary funds for the trip. Not much point in applying for US citizenship, if I can't afford to even get myself and a suitcase of clothes 'cross the Atlantic, is there? :( By the way, I just came to think about something... if I eventually wind up a US citizen, I will go from being a Norwegian who speaks excellent English, to an American who speaks excellent Norwegian. 'Tis a funny thought, no? :)

Entity: Frightening is just the initials... remember that little mathematical piece I recently had on the costs of alcohol over here? The same applies to gas and tobacco too. And just about everything else is overtaxed to the extreme. :( Is there really a wonder that I want OUT?

Bad Teachers: Hmm... when you, like me, happen to be in the Autistic spectrum (luckily only Asperger's Syndrome, which is the "light" version), one single bad teacher can pretty much ruin your entire career from day one. Or, in my case, begin a little later and ruin what others have carefully built over time.
During my first three years, my primary teacher was Gerda, a sweet woman, who actually took the time with every pupil to explain what they didn't understand. Back then, I was,
knowledge-wise, Best In Class.
Then, the next three years, it was Gunn, maybe not as sweet a woman, but understanding, caring, and also she took the time to explain. Always a good mood in class, and MAN could she sing.
Then, for the last three years, we got Knut. Of the two, Merlin got the talent and the idealism. For almost three years, several of my classmates languished in his classes, and I started lagging WAY behind. Eventually, I was sent to the school psychologist, who stated that I was not too dumb for class, but class progressed too slowly for me, causing me to grow disinterested and inattentive. Then, he left that meeting. The remainder of the year went even worse, mostly because he didn't even bother looking at me.
'Course, there were bright moments, as well, during those years. Like the science teacher. Great fellow; he and I could roll up advanced discussions on theoretical science, while the rest of the class sat there, maybe understanding the words, but not their meaning. Great guy. Only person I ever met who was able to make sex sound dull... I kid ye not.
All in all, I suppose the ups and downs during that initial part of my life was pretty much average. However, I'd REALLY wish it had been different; more spread over all the nine years, instead of building over the first six, and then reaching the great drop in seventh grade...
As all things must come to an end, I moved on. For the better. Eventually, I started falling behind again, this time not necessarily due to bad teachers, but to tight schedules and general stress. Then, I was diagnosed, and everything started working out a LOT better. Now, I am done with everything called studies... at least for a few years. I'm waiting for a job (got my feelers out there), and I intend to keep it for a while. At least until I have the necessary travel funds...

Mary Flanders: I know your problem... as you can see from my comment on bad teachers. As for it being hard to live with Asperger's, well, I think that's quite individual; the spectrum is, after all, quite wide. But it's true we would be better off without the damn thing to begin with. What you say about ballet... y'know, I've been considering finding a nice, cozy dojo for some-or-other form of martial arts. I know that there, you will not get laughed at for mistakes (except the truly spectacular ones), because everyone's made them at one time or another. And there is no teasing, as long as the dojo is a good one - teasing will get the bad ones right out. And, it teaches you confidence, as well. (Admittedly, I haven't found a conveniently located dojo, but I know some of what one is taught there - both where techniques are concerned, and self-control.)

Gside: Dude, it's supposed to be Marius. Marius is the *accurate* Latin form of the name. Marie is the feminine version. *Raises a gigantic maul with the word "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!" engraved on the head.* Be glad I didn't deem that insulting. ;)

Well, that's about it for now. See ya.
*Starts bouncing about, waiting impatiently for Tuesday August 15th.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 10, 2000 06:20:20 AM
IP: mp-217-198-130.daxnet.no

OH HELL YEA !!!!!!!!!!

YOU GUYS ARE REALLY LAUNCHING SEASON 3 OF PENDRAGON !!!
COOL !

I've made one other comment in this room before, and I've been reading your fics for some time. I have to say, that the material that I've been reading on your sight is easly the best I've ever read since I started reading fan-fics several years ago. I'm really happy to see that you are all keeping up the great work and staying commited to one of the best TV. shows to come out of Disny. Even though it went of the air about 4+ years ago (to my knowledge as no Cable have I). I look forward to reading the Pendragan Series as I'm still working on the Time Dancer Seasons. (Due to reading at night for an hour or two in my free time).

Sincerly
flameboy78@netscape.net

PS. If any of you play the Infantry CTF. Capture the flag game. I use this same user name Flameboy78 for that game. I'm curius if any of you play the game. If you do, say hi when you see me with a private chat message.
flameboy78 - [flameboy78@netscape.net]
Cupertino, CA, USA
Thursday, August 10, 2000 02:32:43 AM
IP: c466281-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com

Bad teachers> Man, some of the stuff that's been said in here on this topic is just... *shudder* But it's jogged my own memory. I can't believe I forgot about ol' Mrs. Pendilino!

She was my 1st grade teacher. As a result of her, I got held back for 1st grade. She was one of those old ladies who wore chains on their glasses, and they were the angular kind of glasses. She was the stereotype bitch teacher.

At one point, she was giving instructions, and I was mimicking her just to vent. (We'd already had friction.) I wasn't showing off or trying to be a class clown. She saw me and, I suppose, decided that this quiet, shy, reclusive little boy who has no friends is just vying for attention. As my punishment, she orders the rest of the class to ignore me for the remainder of the day. Bitch. Friggin' damaged me psychologically.

Well, that's my little addition.

Entity
Thursday, August 10, 2000 01:51:30 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

I am slightly annoyed. Blizzard changed it so you can only get to the cow level once per difficulty level per character, and I already wasted my first go when I thought I could get back any time I wanted.

Now, allow me to repeat this to myself over and over: Only one class left. Only one class left...

Spacebabie> <<the names of the two talking pillars that belong to Ayeka on Tenchi?>>: Azaka (blue) and Kamidake (red).

Welcome, Steve.

Warpmind> <<There should have been more of it. Funny thing is... that's the exact thing all my teachers have been harping about>>: Et tu, Marius? Or should that be Marie? That's probably one of the reasons I didn't become an English major. That, and an actual comprehension of the sciences.

Entity> <<Don't suppose anyone in here knows of any DVD-ripping software?>>: But I don't think ayone has made a DVD burner yet.

Kyryn> <<I had to live with being teased for about eight years because I survived being raped by a stranger as a child>>: That is wrong on many levels. It just does not make sense.
<<Season 3 of Pendragon will commence>>: Much better news, by a factor of around 10^10^42.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, August 10, 2000 01:05:51 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

***Kyryn strolls back in****

Ahem! Gentlebeings, TGS is proud to announce that Season 3 of Pendragon will commence on Tuesday, August 15, 2000.

(Actually, I'll probably be posting eps sometime late Monday evenings)

***Kyryn grins, pulls a red pen from behind on ear, and goes back to editing***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:33:41 AM
IP: denm3-24.iglobal.net

How is everyone doing? That's good, today was my first day at school as a senior and it went pretty well. Unfortunately (maybe not so unfortunate) I may have to quit my job cause of all the extra stuff I'm doing. I joined the Explorers in my city which is basically the Junior Police Force and it's taking up a lot of time. Anyway, besides that all things are good :)
SOROW
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:55:20 PM
IP: dll2a010-0582.splitrock.net

***Kyryn strolls in***

Sev. Jr.> I used to have those Gundam books. Come to think of it, I seem to remember seeing them recently in one of the used bookstores around here. If I remember, I'll check for you on my way home tomorrow. I'll pick them up if I do see them and email you.

Mary> I hate to say this, but if it wasn't the Asperger's Syndrome they would probably find something else to tease you about. Hey, I had to live with being teased for about eight years because I survived being raped by a stranger as a child. A lot of kids don't understand, and don't want to understand anything different that impinges on their happy little world. They react by teasing or otherwise picking on the "different" ones. I feel for what you have gone through, because I've been there in a slightly different way. It's hard to understand the pain and hurt unless you've been on the inside looking out.

Well, I'm off to work on Pendragon edits. With luck I may be back with an announcement in a little while.

***Kyryn strolls back out***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:42:22 PM
IP: denm3-24.iglobal.net

***BEGIN RP****
On the battlefield, the army of demons was bored. They were some of Hell's finest warriors, but with the fighting temporarily over, they found themself extremely bored. Some sat around trying to eat whatever small game they could find, some decided to play a game of cards, and some simply listened as the drama unfolded between the heroes that summoned them.
Kari had finally gotten SJ and Sammael to calm down. "So, are you two going to play nice?"
Both sheepishly nodded their heads.
Kari smiled. "Good." She turned to SJ. "Junior, Sammael is a demon, true. But he's also a hero. I've seen him put his life on the line to help others, and he was going to help me rescue you when he could have just left you to rot in HFIL." She then turned to Sammael. "And Sammael, you have to expect SJ to be a bit...frustrated. He was sent to HFIL simply because he made a deal to save my life, so he's been spending quite a bit of time with some of your more unsavory brothers and sisters. When he comes back to Earth and sees you, the demon who took over his body....well, you have to realize he would be a little upset." She addressed both of them. "But we are all on the same side here. We've just defeated one of the Ten, but even that victory was won at the cost of one of us. We can't afford anymore sacrifices, and we certainly can't afford any division in our ranks. If we stand a chance at all of saving Earth and HFIL, we have to stick together."
SJ nodded. He turned to Sammael. "I'm...I'm sorry for the way I acted. That was rash of me. Anyone who could have taken such good care of my girl here is alright in my book." Kari shot him a dirty look. "Not that she needed someone to take care of," he added quickly.
"No harm done," Sammael said. "In fact, it's good to actually meet you. Possessing your body like this, I feel that I've gotten to know you."
"Oh yeah, that's the one thing," SJ said, his face growing serious. "You seem like a nice demon and all, but.....I WANT my body back."
"How did you get that body in the first place?" Kari asked.
SJ jerked a thumb at Kari's sister. "You can ask your sis over there. She helped me create a necroplasmic body to inhabit."
"Necroplasmic?" Kari asked.
Sammael brightened. "Wow! That's pretty impressive!" He turned to Kari. "Necroplasm is the material that we demons use when we want to fully transsubstantiate ourselves into the physical plane!"
"Huh?"
"When a demon wants to become a physical entity--a true physical entity--he or she forms a necroplasmic body. You see, we demons, while we have form, we're still supernatural entities, and thus don't follow all of the rules of physics. Necroplasmic bodies are what we use when we want to become more in tune with the physical world. They're invaluable for long term use in an environment like Earth."
"I'm glad you said that," SJ said, a sly smile on his lips. "Cause you and I are going to do a bit of body swapping."
***END RP***

Tonight's Wednsday.....and that means it's Survivor night. Another castaway was eliminated this week. And it was.......whimper....Colleen! Ahem.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn, they got rid of the cute girl! Ah, I'm sorry to see her go. But hey, my favorite--Big Gay Richard--is still haning in there! I'm counting on Rich to take it all! Whoo! Either him or crusty old Rudy, who is a comic genius in his own right.

Harry Potter News: I'm sure the movie will cause a whole new resurgence in satanism, but hey, here's some more casting news! ;) Alan Rickman is up for the role of the mysterious Professor Snape, and Richard Harris is on track to play Dumbledore. Again, I haven't read the books, so those of you who have will have to tell me whether this is a good bit of casting.

Spider-Man Casting Update: Damn, I wish I had a sibling who was a famous movie director. It pays off, it really, really does. Why do I say that? Because actor Ted Raimi has announced that he will have a role in the upcoming Spider-Man movie, which is (I'm sure, just a coincidence) directed by his brother Sam.
Hey Sam! C'mon! If you can help your brother get a role in the film, howzabout your old bud Bruce? You know him? Bruce? Bruce Campbell? The single reason that the Evil Dead trilogy will go down as some of the best horror films of all time? I mean, I like Teddy, but what has he done? He plays a moron on Xena: Warrior Princess! Surely, if you can give him some work, how about Bruce???
On the plus side, though, is that this seriously does up the chances of Bruce Campbell getting in the movie. If Sam is willing to put his brother in the movie, he would probably extend that offer to Bruce as well.

Lieberman: I'm glad that others agree with me in that too much is being made of his religion. Like Spacebabie, I won't be voting for him or Gore, but not because of his religion but rather his politics. Unfortunately, not much is being said about his politics lately.
The really sad thing about this whole thing is that, if Gore doesn't win, there will be those who blame the Jews for it. It's almost a catch-22. There are those who may be prejudiced enough to vote against Gore because Lieberman's Jewish, and yet if Gore loses, there may indeed be people who blame the loss because Lieberman is Jewish. I personally don't think so.....I would hope that people would vote for or against a candidate based upon their politics and not their religion. (And if Gore does lose, I do hope that the losing side will not attribute Bush's win to anti-semitism). But you never know. This may cause some people to vote against Gore (I've heard that the KKK is hot for Buchanan! ;), but I hope that if Gore does lose, no one blames the Jewish people. They get enough grief as it is without someone attributing a presidential loss to them.

Gundam It!: Did you know that there is a bunch of Gundam novels out there? Apperently, 3 years ago, Del Rey books published 3 Mobile Suit Gundam novels, which were virtually exact translations of the original Japanese novels by Yoshiyuki Tomino. The book titles are:
Gundam Mobile Suit I: Awakening
II: Escalation, and
III: Confrontation
The books are supposed to be pretty good, but since they were published ten years ago....they're pretty hard to find. Anyone know where I could pick up a copy real cheap?
And Robby--if you've read them, I don't EVEN want to know about it. ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 10:46:12 PM
IP: 207-172-52-243.s243.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Oops. That last post before this one was mine.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 10:45:42 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

**COMPUTER RELATED**
I am using the website only for pricing. The only option I would change is using a trackball insead of a mouse. Which options. Start with the basic mini-tower. *scratches head.* Let's see. LS120, CD-RW $281, $35 Speakers and $90 Sound Card, 19' monitor $236, 128 MG RAM $130, full tower, memory expansion capacity to 1.5gb, $17 more for 700mhz, 2nd parallel port, 20.4gb harddrive, $108 video card, 56K $45 modem, NetGear $54 network card, Windows Workstation 4.0, $63 warranty, $63 motherboard upgrade (not sure if I need both motherboard upgrades), . Dang, I can not remember exactly how I arrived at my last price. It could be the warranty. Yep, I had the maximum warranty. I plan on paying for it by making a down payment of 1/2 the price and paying $250-$300/month until I finish paying it off. Next year, I will upgrade it by replacing the CPU with at least a 1 ghz and at least doubling the RAM I have. I am currently having problems with harddrive space on my existing computer, which is why I want both the LS120 and CD-RW in addition to a large hard drive. I could get into specific plans for the CD-RW (I plan on creating a giant database of Othello games).
**END COMPUTER RELATED**

**BAD TEACHER**
Hahaha. I think I can top the bad stories with this first one. I had 2 bad teachers. I had a teacher with Attention Deficit Disorder in elementary school. I missed my lunch period to catch up on work the day of the Challenger disaster. I get bad grades that year. On Parent/Teacher Conference days, that teacher had the most visitors.

I had an English teacher in 12th grade that should have been RETIRED. I went from a D to an A average from 1 nine week period to the next. I do believe in often teacher evaluations for the more senior teachers.
**END TEACHER RANT**

I have been 'adopted' by a cat and one of her kittens. Notice that I did not choose to be 'adopted' by said animals.

**BFTS RP continues while an unknown force is watching**
Elaine Wiseman continues speaking. "In general, do not ever leave your back side exposed. Always pay attention. Do not let an enemy get close enough to grab a weapon."

Elaine Wiseman continues speaking for a few minutes.

Then she says, "Now, we would like to recommend what new equipment to purchase."
**END BFTS RP**
What weapons will the Speed Stars acquire to use against our heroes/heroines?
Anonymous
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 10:44:23 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

*enters* hey all!

Bad Teachers>Ohhhh...don't even get me started! Since I have Asperger's Syndrome (a lighter form of autism) I have definetly had my share of bad teachers. My 6th grade teacher, Mrs. Bonnor, was a Witch with a capital B. When I was in her class, I got a LOT of teasing, a part because by the age of 10, I had hit puberty and my face was covered with acne. My desk at one point was right next to hers and my classmates teased me endlessly, with her not even stopping them and telling them to leave me alone. Also ever since I hit preschool, my mother would get one phone call from my teacher and the teacher would always start the conversation with, "Let's talk about Beth.". This woman did not make such a phone call (though that MAY be a good thing, hard to tell for me). Anyway, she had all these psycologists come and test me for all sorts of things and they came to a conclusion that I was just being a willful stubborn kid and aparently the teacher thought that maybe the teasing the kids gave me would make me shape up and clean up my act. Hell f%#$ing shit no! That same teasing from the SAME classmates continued into my junior high years! Some of this may seem unreasonable for me to get angry about, but I swear if I ever see that Bitch again I'm going to give her a piece of my mind! *sigh* I know it's been years since she was my teacher, but she really left a bad mark on my psyche. Also there's the aspect that Asperger makes it hard for me to forgive people who have wronged me. Let's just say it's very hard to live with Asperger's Syndrome. Especially since it was only officially named back in 1994.

Then there was my ballet teacher. She was nice and all, but she did not prepare me for when I went to ballet camp. No one really seemed to to want to tell me that walking out in the middle of class to get some water was not allowed. I had to irritate the family I was staying with, embarrass my classmates who were also taught by my ballet teacher, and lose my love for ballet to understand that in the end ballet was not for me nor were most people in ballet nice. Later on after I came back from camp, my ballet teacher started to tease me in front of the entire class about how I was holding my body during our excersizes (causing the whole class to laugh at me). The woman was aparently to dimwitted to notice me scowling at her.

I know I wouldn't have had to suffer with so many teachers and classmates if I didn't have Asperger's Syndrome. But I know even more that these teachers needed to be more understanding that I had a problem that was beyond an "attitude" and very serious. *sigh*

I actually feel better about getting that off my chest.

Mary Flanders
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 10:33:44 PM
IP: ramp-1-15.ucdavis.edu

Thanks Robby. I haven't seen Kagoto's organ music. But I'll grab it if I see it. Thanks though. Forward thos websites over if you could. I'd be more then grateful.
Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 08:25:43 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

STEVE - Re the 3 spin-offs that you mentioned:

1. Gargoyles 2158 (or the equivalent thereof) will most likely be done as simply part of Timedancer rather than a separate spin-off, because of Timedancer Brooklyn's presence in its events.

2. Bad Guys will most likely be done as a loosely-connected cycle to TGS, but not directly in it (it's being done by Stephen Sobotka and Marlos Rawlings on their own, last I heard).

3. We haven't made any decisions on the New Olympians cycle as yet.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 07:02:16 PM
IP: 216.87.46.176.dialup-stl.primary.net

Bad Teachers> 11th grade English. Miss Saporita. I got D's all year, up until one project where we had to write a one page "Day in the Life Of" a character from "Grapes of Wrath." I had Ma Joad, and wrote to her perspective, first person, including accent, dialogue she used, in the present tense, like a narrative diary entry. I aced the assignment, and she asked me why I couldn't put the effort I did in that piece into the rest of the work. I told her flat out I didn't put much effort into that piece; I hated Grapes of Wrath. I did, however, put A LOT of effort in the rest of my work, and didn't get very good grades. She didn't believe me, and she reported me to the academic counciler. When the academic counciler told Sappy that there was nothing wrong with my study habits, that I actually needed more help on the assignments because I didn't quite understand what she wanted, she retorted by saying, "The other kids understand, why can't she?"

Two years later, my sister had Sappy. When Jenn told Sappy that I was diagnosed with ADHD in college, Sappy told her ADHD was just an excuse.

Then there was Ms. Grass, in second grade, who didn't like the fact that I read faster than the other children during reading class. I would finish the assignment, complete the questions, and start reading my "fun reading" book, which was usually Nancy Drew or Sweet Valley Twins. She would fly off the handle and give me detention. I moved during the middle of the year.

10th grade. Western Civ. Mrs. B. That's what we called her, and that's what she called herself. She spoke in the third person, had a bottle of vodka in her drawer (when she retired, my sister found the bottle when she helped clean out the desk), and was a devote Catholic. She didn't like me because when we were going over the Great Schism and the Roman Catholic church, little miss Heretic rose her hand and asked rather innocently, "Why isn't there a woman pope?" Boy, did I get a reaming.

Then there was senior college. Printing Estimating, an advanced Math class taught by our dyslexic GAT head, Ron Dyer (pronounced Won Dyah.) To quote Thrust, "Nice Guy, little dim." He lost three of my assignments, couldn't get his facts straight, and confused the hell out of most of us. I went up for help, and he, being the Star Wars junkie that he was, told me to "Use the Force." Well, I used the Force all right. I let the Dark Side out full force during the second to last class, yelling at him about how totally lost I was and that he wasn't helping me at all, and stormed out the door, with a standing ovation to boot. Somehow, my average went from a D- to a B+.

Okay, enough rambling. I gotta do some work.

Cyrway - [artemis_prime@excite.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 05:36:07 PM
IP: d-207-5-175-213.gwi.net

Bad teachers> I'm lucky in that I've never had a flat-out terrible teacher, but I too have had a "coach-turned-teacher" for a teacher who knew nothing about what he was teaching (Psychology). At my school, pretty much all our electives are taught by fillers, and they consist of busy work. It's hell trying to figure out your schedule, since there's nothing worthwhile to take... it's a constant struggle against having three straight study halls.

Liebermann> For the sake of saying so, I too agree with SJ. I also think Taleweaver's got the right idea, though I'll admit that, even in the face of two bland candidates, I'm leaning toward Gore. If only because in leaning towards him, I'm leaning AWAY from Bush...

Steve> Welcome, man!

DBZ Pacing> It annoys you to no end at first, but after awhile you fail to notice. ;)

Cyborg> I just purchased a new PC about a month ago.

Warpmind> Whoa, it is frightening indeed.

Robby> Hey, I don't suppose you'd be willing to make copies of yon DBZ tapes. ;) I'm hungry for subtitles, I'll tell you. I just don't think I can take much more of the dub. Especially not now with Chris Sabat's "life-long smoker" Vegeta. The DVD's look appealing, but they're taking their good time, and FUNimation is extorting the hardcore fanbase for them. *shakes head* The dub is the one that is revamped, and it's aired for free. The subs just require lines of text and they're around $7 an ep.

Don't suppose anyone in here knows of any DVD-ripping software? Stealing be damned. I'll actually go out and pay for the episodes, if I can split the cost amongst friends and then divvy up copies. Otherwise, there's just no way.

Entity - [cotleur@mediaone.net]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 02:32:00 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

**RP ALERT**

"Gubio, are you alright?" Erin asks her boyfriend as they head through the Underground City's streets. He nods. "Just a little steamed. I'll calm down. That Kovu and Tiara…" "I know," Terrell cuts in angrily. "They tend to have that effect on people, unfortunately. And they can also be charismatic when they so desire. That has enabled them to rise as high as they have in our city's power structure." "Yeah," Gubio nods, "I figured that. Oh well, at least your leaders aren't boring, stupid, or corrupt." Mist meows worriedly in agreement. Terrell nods. "Yes. Or fanatical about something besides helping the people as they see fit." He shakes his head. "I often wish, though, that we did not have to deal with them." "Maybe you can elect different people in a few years," Erin speculates. "Maybe," Terrell agrees with a hopeful sigh. Then he halts the party as they come to a house built into a large stalagmite. "In any case, here's my home. The potion your friend needs is here." He knocks on the door and a very tall and fat female caiveh with purple fur throws it open and smiles. "Rrowr!" "Hello, Annabelle," Terrell greets her, smiling as she leaps onto him and nearly knocks him over with a hug. "That's…" Gubio frowns, looking at Erin and Mist. "My wife," Terrell answers, smiling as he kisses the huge female caiveh. "I told you she was large." "It's mostly our child," Annabelle says in English, turning to face them with a smile. "Hello, Erin. It is good to see you again." "Likewise," Erin smiles, nodding. "This is Gubio, and Mist." "Hello, Gubio and Mist," Annabelle greets them. "Hi," Gubio nods, smiling a little hesitantly. Mist meows. "Don't just stand there gawking," Terrell chuckles. "Come in! My wife is a skilled herbalist, as well as an expert healer and masseuse. We keep many potions in stock, one should be what your friend needs." "What does their friend need, Terrell?" Annabelle asks. "I'll explain inside," he replies. "Come on in, everyone." Gubio shrugs, then looks at Erin as Terrell and Annabelle precede them into the stalagmite house. "What can I say?" Erin grins. "He likes large women." "I guess so," Gubio frowns. He then shrugs. "To each his own. I hope we're not here too long. Abdullah could track us down and send another assassin after us, further endangering these people." "Maybe he won't," Erin says hopefully. Mist meows in agreement. "I don't know," Gubio sighs, then walks through the door of Terrell's home.

In his office, Abdullah frowns as he listens to Kovu on the other end of the phone. "Watch them," he commands his caiveh ally when Kovu has finished speaking. "If they get too close to the warhead, you know what must be done." He hangs up and then glares at the thin figure seated across the table. "Well, Jazeem, it seems your genie has failed for the first time." "Yes, sir," Jazeem sighs. "It shall not happen again, I promise! Just give me another chance! I'll…" "Tariq!" Abdullah snaps, and the military-garbed aide nods and grabs Jazeem's hand. Abdullah holds up one finger and then Jazeem screams as Tariq breaks that finger on his hand. "What did you do?" Jazeem roars in pain as Tariq releases him. "My spells! It will now be harder for me to cast my spells!" "Hardship is the price of failure," Abdullah reminds him. "Get him out of here, Tariq. Then get Yevi on the line. Tell him the time has come to do what must be done." "Yes, caliph," Tariq nods, and then escorts the still-moaning-in-pain Jazeem out of the room by his ear. Abdullah watches them go, then turns to a silent figure that has been observing the scene from the far corner. "Something wrong?" Harthoth nods. "I fear your obsession with these old enemies of yours is endangering our agreement." "You need not be worried," Abdullah shrugs. "Your master's new body has already been completely built. Only the integration program remains, and Mr. Jensen is working on it right now." "I hope he is done soon," Harthoth grimaces. "If the Night of Ultimate Darkness passes and my master loses his latest chance to rise, it will be on your head, Abdullah bin Aziz." Abdullah nods, then allows himself a sly smile as Harthoth turns and walks out.

**END FIRST BIT OF THIS POST'S RP**

Hi everyone. Well, I finally have time for another big post. <grins> And so I'll make one. Lots to catch up on. Two things I want to mention first. 1- for all who were worried about our car, yesterday Doug and I got it back. We had to pay a lot of money, and we're not completely sure the dealership mechanics fixed the main problem they were supposed to, but they did their best (they should have, we spent over two thousand dollars!). And at this point, we need to have access to the car more than we need it to get repaired (the problem- having to flood the motor to start it- wasn't really that serious anyway). So we're just grinning and bearing it, while saving up money from our jobs to recover the damage that repair bill did to our bank account. Hope we can recoup the losses soon. :) Second thing- All of who you went to the Gathering, I'm glad you had fun there. Sorry I missed it. Hope Doug and I can make the 2001 one, it sounds like it will be a very fun occasion. Not to mention important to the future of the show. :) Thanks to you all for sharing your experiences in both words and pictures, now I know all that I missed and I feel bad about it. <sighs> But I also feel more determined to make the Gathering next time round. :) On to replies.

David G: Congrats on the well-behaved cat and especially on the working air conditioner. In the heat of this summer, one of those is really a must-have. :)

Older Siblings: Oh, come on, some of them are alright. My brother Ray has almost always been straight and fair with me, even if we have fought now and then. Although there were all those times when he totally refused to see my side of things in many discussions, or when he wouldn't let me use the computer, or watch TV, or… nah, I forgive him for all that. There were more times when he supported me and helped me. Thus I still love him. :) Hope the rest of you with older siblings can somehow manage to say the same for yours.

Niamhgold: Double-job workload? Ooh, that's bad. Good luck with it, hope it makes as much money as it's worth and you don't have to put too much time into it. I've worked two jobs before, and it's not fun. <spend more time with Brian> Didn't you know had someone. Congratulations. He's definitely a lucky guy. :) Also glad that you agree with me on Terminator. The guy in there crosses time to find his one true love, saves her life and protects her, fights a battle beside her against a terrible foe, then dies for her. You can't get more romantic than that. :)

Katara: Indeed people will be idiots no matter what day it is. They're just like that sometimes. <sigh> Some of the other employees in my store especially. Yesterday I found out our new cashier didn't know how to use a register. The manager knew this, and still hired him! As a result, we had several people accuse us of overcharging and shortchanging, and if I hadn't been there to defuse the situation and ring up their purchases correctly…<shakes head> The guy chewed me out too and got all steamed, even though I was only trying to help him and cover his butt and the store's. <growls> I'm going to talk to the manager about this guy today. Hopefully he will see reason. We don't need extra cashiers that badly, and if this guy refuses to learn how to use a register and do his job properly, surely we can find someone who will be better for it. <fingers crossed> Glad you and your ex have become good friends, I agree that sometimes that is the best thing to be with someone. Too bad about the marriage going sour though. Good luck with your car and your cyst.

Robby: Congrats on finishing your project and doing it well (at least in your opinion). Hope you will soon know whether or not it pleases your bosses. Hope I can see it someday too. :)

SOROW: I liked 1984 too when I read it. Could have used a better love story, and the end bit was very convoulted, but other than that, great book. :) Glad you're getting to read it. Good luck preparing for school, and hope that it doesn't overwhelm you. If it does, well, just remember we're here. <grin>

Emmabu: Glad you had fun at the Republican Convention, despite the wound (which I will pray heals soon). I read about the Convention in the paper and agree with many critics that it seemed little more than very embellished hoopla. Oh well, at least somebody got some good experiences out of it. Besides W and all his fawning sycophants. <sighs> <Aplogies to Republicans- this is just my opinion>

SJ: I agree with you about Liebermann. Who cares if the guy's Jewish? Not me. I do think it's high time we had a Jew in high political office (coming from a Jewish family, I have to say that), but it'd be even better if we stopped judging people by their religion. But can the media do that? No. <sighs> Why can I not get excited about this latest presidential race? I also think you have a very good point about the protests. I can mostly agree with it because a lot of protesters here are of much the same temperament. <groans> You're very right about cops too.
Thanks for the info on the Spiderman movie, it sounds like it will be good. I'd still rather see Nicholas Brendon as Spidey than Tobey Maguire, but since the decision's been made…oh well. Hope they release Crow 3 soon too (thanks for telling us it existed), and thanks for the new Buffy season info as well. I'm not completely sure I'm down with all the new developments, but I will wait to see how they pan out before passing judgement. :) And thanks for the Action Man review too. I may have to check that out. Saw the original and hated it, but if the new version's better…<grins>

Kyryn: Like Doug said, thanks for keeping us up to date on the progress of the new episodes. Thanks to those who have helped you do it too, like GXB and Todd. May the hassles impeding your work soon be eased, and the stories be published. I will be waiting eagerly for them. :) Thanks to Todd for teasing us about some of the developments ahead.

Blue: I may have forgotten to say this before, but good luck on your finals! If you've finished them already, hope you did well. <grin>

Kaioto: Sorry that you don't have the time to hang out here much anymore. Thanks, though, for stopping by and letting us know how you were doing. Hope you can come back soon. Good luck with your job and the other things going on in your life.

Firestorm: Merlin Missy/Nancy Brown's stories are indeed amazingly well-written. I'm glad she may be getting back to them soon. Thanks for letting us know. <the Daria kiss> Thanks for telling us about this too. I used to watch that show religiously, but since we don't have cable…<sighs> Maybe Gubio taped the ep, he likes Daria too and if this one was as good as you implied…:) Anyway, I'm glad something I and many other fans have been wanting to happen did. Now as long as the show doesn't degenerate into a huge angst-storm over their relationship like other shows with star-crossed lovers have (Roswell, 90210, etc), all will be good. Thanks again, and good luck with that awfully ridiculous lawsuit. <sighs>

Wilek: You should definitely read more of Stephen King's work, it's very intriguing. Needful Things is my personal favorite, and of course don't forget Christine, Pet Sematary, and The Running Man. :) The Stand's also great too, if a bit long. Thanks for telling me about the Yellow Sign.

Shadowrider: You're welcome. :) Glad you can see the movie that way too. I also like the poem Doug found, even if it is kind of sad. <sniffs>

Happy Belated Birthday to Robby, Xanathar, Green Baron, and anyone else I've missed. Welcome all newcomers!

Jannie: Glad that you're recovering from what happened. I've been praying. :) Also glad you've finally decided to do the right thing and get away from Principal Snyder's female clone. <grin> I am sorry that doing so means giving up teaching, though. It shouldn't, not if you're good at your job (and your posts make me think you are :). Surely there's some other good school out there without such a person around, where you can continue to cultivate young minds. Hope you can find it and be able to work there, if such is your will. In any case, good luck with your life, however it turns out. And make sure in your last year that you go out with a bang and not a whimper. :)

Gunjack: Sounds like you had a great summer, I really envy you. Hopefully Doug and I will get to take such a road trip ourselves one of these days. Maybe we won't have as many interesting experiences as it sounds like you did, but it would be fun. :) In any case, welcome back to the CR.

Zath: Glad you're back too, welcome. Good luck with getting ready for school and hope you will soon return.

Stephen: And may you be a full hour. :) Congrats on completing the move.

Xanathar: You're a good friend, we'll never forget you. :) Thanks for stopping in, hope you come back soon. Like I said above, happy birthday! :)

GXB: So your father's just dominated by jealousy? Maybe I misjudged him a little in my anger earlier. No, anyone who lets jealousy and his conception of the way the world should be control him that much…<sighs> Entity makes good points about the situation, I agree with them. Hope your father can learn from his mistakes. He should be glad something got you interested in reading, especially something as great as Gargoyles is. <sigh> Anyway, I'm sorry you have to put up with the guy, and I wish you luck getting things straightened out with him somehow, or at least finding out what the real root of the problem is. We'll be here for you any time you need to vent, or need friends. Thanks for putting up the TGS Cast List, I too think many good choices are on there. :)

Bad Teachers: I too have had to deal with my share of them. My fifth-grade American History teacher was a coach who didn't know the subject of American History at all. He couldn't even get all the important dates right (like when Lincoln was shot, when Pearl Harbor was bombed, when Cornwallis surrendered, etc.). Real good at basketball, but at history…no. And whenever one of our more knowledgeable students tried to correct him, he always snapped, "Shut up! I'm the teacher, not you! Students in this class should be seen and not heard unless I ask them a question!" or some such thing. Terrible man. Fortunately the history teachers in the grades before and after him knew their stuff, so he didn't do too much damage to my learning. And he left the school shortly after the end of my seventh grade too. I've had other bad teachers in grade school, high school, and college. All kinds. There's the type who think they should run your life, that their subject should take precedent over all others (many gym teachers like that), those who gave you bad grades if you don't conform to their worldview, the ones who practice unfair grading…I don't need to go on. May all these teachers somehow learn from their mistakes and stop making them, impossible as it may seem. And may the majority of us not have to endure them. :)

Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan: I too have trouble seeing this. I've wanted Sum of All Fears to be a movie for many years, it's my favorite Clancy book after Without Remorse, but starring Ben Affleck? Please. <sighs> Maybe it'll be a good movie after all. I'll wait and see. I doubt it, especially since I've never seen Affleck do anything remotely like Jack Ryan, but I'll wait and see. <grimaces> I just hope they don't drop Willem Dafoe from his excellent role as Mr. Clark.

Warpmind: Someone has politics worse off than we do? <gasps> You get yourself over to our country fast, okay? We don't want you to suffer under such idiots anymore. :) Let Doug and me know if you need help getting over here, we helped our friend Elena's sister Maria pass her Citizenship Test recently and would be glad to do it again for another friend. :)

That's about all for now. I'm pretty much caught up, and have to run. So I'll be back later, probably next week. Or sooner, if work doesn't keep me away. Which it probably will. Oh well, the bills must be paid. :) Later everyone, and have fun till I get back! And afterwards too. <grins>

**BACK TO RP- PLEASE EXCUSE VIOLENCE AND DEATH**

The screen comes back on, to display Jerec catching whatever Orion threw at him, then gasping in shock. Instantly everything he lifted in the bathroom using telekinesis falls back to the ground, Force-lightning stops flashing across the bodies of those he's shocked with it, and the shields around Jerec himself disappear. "What…" Jerec gasps, opening the bundle and seeing a small lemur-like creature inside staring at him. "What is this?" "That is an ysalimari," Orion replies. "Around it, no one can touch the Force. That leaves you practically powerless." Jerec stares at him, then down at the ysalimari, and gasps. "No!!" "Oh yes!" Kit replies, and immediately all the Ravens who still stand fire their weapons into Jerec. He screams and then collapses as the bullets, lasers, and rockets strike and obliterate him. Desperately he tries to do anything to stop them, but the ysalimari's presence won't even let him go into the trance necessary to come back as a Jedi Spirit. When the smoke from all the fired weapons clears, his body is lying lifeless and bleeding heavily on the bathroom floor. "Ew!" Stephanie grimaces. "Let's call the Borg troopers to dispose of that." "I'll do it," Jammer says, looking at Orion and nodding in Tricia's direction before running off. The cleric walks over to the unconscious group members and begins applying his healing touch. "They're alright," he tells Lathrop, Stephanie, Kit, and Doug. "Just need a few blessings." "Those you can easily provide," Lathrop smiles. "Thank you for saving our lives, by the way. I didn't even know that such creatures as ysalimari existed." "Not many do," Orion grins back. "Fortunately, there was one on the base." "Yeah," Doug agrees, wiping sweat from his brow. "So are all Thailog's soldiers that tough?" "Not really," Kit replies, smiling. "He was one of the most dangerous ones. I'm glad we got him. There's only a few more to go." Doug nods. "And we'll take care of them too, I'm sure." "I can't believe you almost trusted that guy," Stephanie says. "He was so evil and…" "I don't trust him now, okay?" Doug cuts her off. "I may be memory-impaired, but I do know who my friends are. That's y'all." "Good," Kit smiles, kissing him on the lips. "Well," Lathrop sighs as he watches Orion continue ministering to the wounded. "We may need to rest up a bit now, before we leave here. That was quite a battle." Orion nods. "Fortunately, it was not costly." "Yeah," Doug nods in agreement, the others sharing his smile of relief. "Did we get here too late?" a voice inquires from the bathroom door just then, and the group turns to see Tom, Mansfield, and Leah, who spoke, standing in it with weapons in hand.

**THIS SITUATION WILL BE RESOLVED NEXT TIME. END RP**

Kitainia
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 01:31:11 PM
IP: pool-209-138-214-10.dlls.grid.net

*Warpmind enters, pondering an e-mail.*
Well, I got a response from Chaosium... they want a more thorough plot summary of my campaign... seems the rough scetch I wrote up is deemed nothing more than teasers; no real plot summary. There should have been more of it. Funny thing is... that's the exact thing all my teachers have been harping about, whenever I've been supposed to write something. "Too short." "Incomplete answer." "Only half of the answer." I begin to sense a trend... ;)

Cyborg: Actually, I can't see how you put your foot in your mouth... I use MS-DOS 6.x on Ahasverus, because, far as I know, it's the only stable thing Microsoft ever made. And install Linux on the machine? Perish the thought. I am NOT switching OS on it. Primarily due to the vast collection of old DOS games I have; I am NOT going to spend ye number of years learning to operate Linux with an MS-DOs shell on a machine that should have been replaced five years ago... Still, it's nice to see people concerned about Ahasverus' fate. ;)

Politics: I sit in my Comfy Chair (TM) and watch your Presidential campaigns, and chuckle to myself. Then, I look at our Prime Minister (pronounce: (pardon the lack of accurate phonetic symbols - I transcribed them as best I could) "praim 'ivel"), and I cry... Our last PM was a priest, then we got a kid not properly dry behind his ears, and at present, the most probable PM candidate is a nationalist. Oh, and did I mention the PMs before the priest were first an expansionistic powermonger (you may have heard of her - Gro Harlem Brundtland), and then a fark-up? As you see, your political situation can be laughed at on occasion. Ours is to cry of... now, where did I put that passport? And my US Citizenship application?

Well, that's it. My sister just got a phonecall from one of her guys, so I gotta move... the wench. :( Well, see y'all.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 12:47:39 PM
IP: mp-217-206-241.daxnet.no

Nanu nanu!

Sobotka> Better hurry up, bro...we've got three Decepticons loose in Iacon, one Vehicon who's playing with Snarl's tail talking baby talk, and, oh, some major sketches that will be up for you this weekend, hopefully. Is your email addy still the same?

Speaking of sketches...

Coyote> Did Vig deliver?

Re> G2001: Slag. If it's the last one...crap. I can't go.

Harry Potter> Already pagan, domo arigato. Been so for almost 6 years. Harry Potter is actually very Christian, IMHO...

Okay, gotta jet.

Cyrway - [artemis_prime@excite.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 12:13:36 PM
IP: dialup-w-227.mint.net

Hi! This is my first post, but I've been a huge Gargoyles fan since it first began. I'm in the process on reading TGS and I think they're great. So guys, keep up the good work. Because Gargoyles, Pendragon, and Dark Ages haven't had any new episodes in TGS in the past year, I assumed there wouldn't be anymore, but I recently saw it posted that the new seasons of all three series are in development.

Here's my question: I was wondering if anyone was planning to begin writing for TGS some of Greg Weisman's other spinoff series such as Gargoyles 2158, Bad Guys, or New Olympians. I think they are all great ideas and I would love it if those series were added to TGS.

I was just wondering if those three series were going to make their way into TGS. Thanks again to everyone for working on TGS.

BTW, I hope everyone who went enjoyed the Gathering. I'm going to try to go in 2001, even though I live in NY.
Steve - [nyyankees2536@aol.com]
Brewster, NY, United States
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 12:10:20 PM
IP: spider-te013.proxy.aol.com

Spacebabie> Oh, I'll be there next year, cause I'll be paying for the whole trip myself. Thanks for your support btw.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:47:21 AM
IP: dialin-216-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Crashes into a tree
"Koala"

Well I'm glad to see that everyone is getting home saftly

Mandolin>>>"I'm one of the lucky B******s?" Yes the blond chick who looks like heck sitting next to Greg

Speaking of Greg....Races and bows before her Greg shrine"All hail Greg!" Yes this was also in sarcasm to the Greg is a Cult leader

GXB>>>Aw man I can't believe your dad is being such a selfish jerk and I hope you can make it to next years Gathering

Sevarius jr. Another person who agrees that the media is making too much of a deal that he is Jewish...sadly there are a lot of narrow minded people who won't be voting for Gore because of that. I still won't be voting for Gore but thats because of the political issues. I like Lieberman, since he called Clinton an arse and folks he won't be the first Jew to work under a president, that honor goes to Monica.

Jannie>>>The more I hear about this principla the more I can't stand her, does she tick off the other employess and students as well? There has got to be some way to get this Bitca fired.

Coyote>>>Sorry about the traffic here in O-town, I-drive, OBT and Sandlake happen to be some of the busyiest roads and the majority of the slowness tends to be cause of((No offense)) tourists.

Mara>>Oh yes the lightening that took out the power at the convention?

Robby>>>Uh I really can't see Payne sound like Gourry or James of Team Rocket, and can you tell me the names of the two talking pillars that belong to Ayeka on Tenchi? I keep forgetting them.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:38:41 AM
IP: user-37kap1i.dialup.mindspring.com

Robby> pic = pick (smites typo with sword) GONE
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:20:16 AM
IP: dialup-166.90.18.99.sandiego1.level3.net

Robby> I agree with your pic for the actor to do Isacc Payne's voice
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 11:19:50 AM
IP: dialup-166.90.18.99.sandiego1.level3.net

Greetings and salutations,
Politics> Thought I'd get this out of the way. As far as Gore picking Lieberman. I'm non-plussed. I think Gore picked him not because he was Jewish, but because he was the first to public chastize Clinton before the events that led to his impeachment. I see it more as a way to distince himself from Clinton without distancing himself from the office or the incumbancy. I do agree, too much is made of his religion. I've already moved on. I'm watching the Congressional elections now. Considering that both candiates are bland, who wins those congressional seats will play a major role in who gets elected. (I'm not a Republican, but Bush could have sowed this thing up if he had picked Libbie Dole) From now until Nov. it will be a game of 'I didn't mean that'. All those freshmen Republican congressmen who touted being citizen politicans wanting to limit their terms, they'll say I didn't mean that as the run for re-election. Term limits are good when it's the incumbant you want to dethrone, not when it's you. Same with the presidential campaigns. Everyone who's been bleating for campaign finance reform will find some other hot-button issue to fawn on. The trick will be not to appear to obvious to the American public. Such is the way we do business.

TV> Beast Machines looks interesting. i konw I'll miss the second agenda Rhinox was running. That was the saving grace for the show's first season. Transformers in all the incarnations I've seen has always had someone plotting to throw down Megatron, but Tankorr was the first one I thought might actually pull it off.

Dragonball Z I haven't been able to get into. It stricks me as too much of a soap opera, not in the dramatics, but in the pacing. The battles a fast and furious, but to get from one plot point to the next takes forever and a day. To me it feels like speeding in 5th gear and catching every red light. Hurry up and wait, Hurry up and wait.

Gathering> I had a thought, could a link page be set up with everyone's pictures, comments, and etc of this Gathering. I know some folks have already set it up. (For which I am very grateful), but a link page would be great.

Things are pretty hazy and lazy here in SoCal. I hope things are easy where you are. Toddles.

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 10:51:32 AM
IP: joepesci.engineering.csupomona.edu

Sevarius Jr.> thankyouverymuch! I'm glad to see that someone else has noticed the same thing about Liederman and the hoopla about him being Jewish!! Big deal! *rolls eyes* I've also noticed that the Democrats are really mimicking a lot of what the Republicans said and did at the Rep. Convention. I guess they have finally realized that Americans really do want and believe in morals. The media would have everyone believe otherwise though.
I wonder if the Democrats feel as if Liederman is going to pull up the Gore ratings.... that has never worked in the past though.... it's going to be very interesting to watch the Democratic Convention, heh.
But you're right... they sure seem to be riding on the fact that he's Jewish quite a bit and I say, that's very nice that he is - but it doesn't mean squat to me politically and it has absolutely no influence on me when it comes to choosing a President & Vice President.

Concerning the Harry Potter, etc. Even though you were being over-dramatic and humorous (which I was laughing very hard while reading your post) ;) there is also some truth to what you are saying. Certainly not to the degree of what Jerry Falwell has proclaimed though. (Btw, my dad looks just like Falwell! well, and Fred Flintstone... LOL )

whoa... I'm rambling now... must be the new pain medication... it's a shame it doesn't work on the pain though. *sighs*

I'm glad to see and hear that everyone has made it safely home from G2K =) Now to begin the plans for Gathering 2001!! Gosh, I surely won't have anything else (medically) go wrong then *falls over*
Pictures! I want to see pictures of G2k!! Scan and post! ;)

Jannie
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 09:51:05 AM
IP: 209-144-251-144.hou.port.mytelco.com

SJ> I can't speak for Robby but I have already seen the entire second season of "Beast Machines", I have it on tape. And I can say that at leasy IMO that the second season is much better than the first season.

And I know all about those new characters. One of them should be appearing very soon.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 08:51:53 AM
IP: dialin-1026-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

I started typing these replies at 4:45am here. I couldn't get back to sleep. The telephone registration server was down, so I only got on to start registering at 3:30am, then found a problem (I DO have that prerequisite, d@mn it!) so I have to wait untill 8:30 to clear it up so I can finalize. This is just a little disclaimer because I think this post is a *little* off character for me.

DPH & Entity> Are BOTH of you getting new computers?... I'm confused. Then agian, that has never stopped me from giving my opinion before so:
I agree with FireStorm, you sound like you know what you want in your computer, so build your own, especially if you have all that money saved up. Building my own computer only came to about $550 (and I bought everything). If he were feeling better, I'm sure my Dad would have offered you his help and advice at getting the right stuff (it is what he does after all) but there are probably tons of people in your area just as qualified.
...> "I want something that's ging to IMPRESS me, not just be passable" I get that through the two setups my Dad and I have. I think one setup is called a network. The other, I know, is a trickle down routine.
My mom constantly complains that when I'm at home, if Stephen is not visiting, I spend all my time sequesterd in my room on my computer. When she says that I confuse her by saying that I almost never use my computer. She is SUCH a ludite (proper spelling for that anyone?). Whenever I want to do something, I log on by tty2 onto the powerhouse downstairs (mom HATED having the wires snaking through the entire house before we drilled through the walls). My computer is nothing special (some would say that it is, um, lacking, because I don't have a soundcard, but I didn't want one), but we have two others with other specialties (my computer was MADE for homework... like that's something to boast about, heehee), one does have a soundcard and used to be used to make really good graphics, and the other is a powerhouse with internet access and all sorts of programming editors (and NetHack too!). I may be typing at mine, but I'm usually using another. *Looks to her right, 'Does that bed ever look good, I have the feeling I'm going to be using it this afternoon'*
Trickling down (in case you don't already know) works like this: either one of us saves up for something we really want, or Dad picks up an unused piece of hardware from the office, which goes either into the powerhouse, or whichever system needs that for a job. Then whatever that peice replace, gets put into the next computer down, and so on. It takes a bit more effort, but it is worth it. The computers run better, because you have the stats of each one added to the other, and you never run out of saving space because you have multiple hard disks to save stuff on.
...> "If you've got a CPU with 16 MB Ram, that baby can push it. That old 4x CD-Rom? It whirls up in a flash." This applies to our routines too, because you NEVER get rid of computer(s/parts), just trickle them down and make new tty's. You like your 16 MB? Keep it, I don't know why you thought you had to get rid ot it anyway.
Well, I like this system, and it works for me.

Lady Mystic>"Friend to remain nameless" Am I supposed to remain nameless?

Gside>"Joke:(In an approximated form) *LoL* I'll have to remember that one. When all our neighbours get together for a BBQ, we do have at least one of each there.

Warpmind>"MS-DOS 6.X, of course..." Here I am, putting my cold, metal and plastic foot in my mouth agian. Gee this thing really tastes awfull, but I guess I will never learn.
You should try Linux (had ya guessed?). The commands at the prompt are about the same (dir, less (is more), cd, etc.) I like the file system better ( at the prompt, because enter '.' and you go backwards) and it seems to run a bit better (faster) on 'they don't make them like that anymore' models.

Robby>" I *HAVE* seen almost every episode of Sailor Moon and Dragonball/Z/GT in its original japanese. (With subtitles, I'm not THAT obsessed" I am envious. I love watching the subtitled versions, they are so much better than the dubs.
...> "Voice of Isaac Payne" I could hear that working...

Yay! Only 35 more minutes before the Office of the Registrar opens up and I can finalize, get some sleep, er, (stiff as 7/9) 'regenerate'. Heehee, yes I am a trekie.

Time to reload *mental picture of Data from that scene from_Insurection_* saddle up, move on out! Yeehaw!
What!? No new posts since 4:46:32am CR time!? People, people, *shakes head sadly* you are falling down on the job. If this keeps up, even with everyone back from the Gathering, we will loose our place as the Most Prodigeous Posters.
I'm......Off to contact the Registrar-
The wonderful Registrar of Dawson.
I hear she is a wiz of a wiz-
If ever a wiz there was!

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 08:14:41 AM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

My cousin Bryan is still here and I'm having a blast. We spent most of the day watching Slayers NEXT and Yellow Submarine (Boy that thing was TRIPPY!)... And last night it was MASH the movie... Tommarrow its the X-men movie. All in all, I'm having a great deal of fun, I just wish I'd been able to get to G2K. Oh well, looks like you all had fun... Maybe I'll get to next year's...

SJ- On my often having usually seen a show before it gets here... That's mostly because most shows coming here at this point have been aired in a different country for years before it gets here and I'm able to get copies of almost anything that interests me. That, and working at Antarctic Press has given me access to quite a good deal of anime and japanese magazines... Also, I have entirely too much obsession with some things. Online research doesn't hurt either. As far as Beast Machines, yep, I've seen the whole season, but that's mostly due to too much free time to download complete episodes. (Season 2 is better than season 1, but that's really not saying too much.) Just wait until the new seasons of Pokemon and Digimon start in a week or two. There's some fun stuff coming up... (And actually, I've seen episodes of Pokemon Gold and both Digimon and Monster Rancher season 2 already...)

And yes, I *HAVE* seen almost every episode of Sailor Moon and Dragonball/Z/GT in its original japanese. (With subtitles, I'm not THAT obsessed... But then, I owned a good deal of DBZ episodes long before Saban ever heard of it...)

Gasper- Fraid I can't help you. The soundtrack to the Tenchi OVA series, (which is where the television series stole most of its music from) eludes me. I'm not even sure if there *IS* a soundtrack for that part of the series. (I want Kagato's organ music durn it!) So sorry, I'm no help here. Importing soundtracks is actually more expensive than importing anime! Anime you can get fansubs of, soundtracks well... You have to get from Japan. So I'm a good deal less informed where music is concerned, tho I do know a few websites...

Voice of Isaac Payne- Well, since no one seems to remember the voice I said I prefferred for him last time, this time around I'll say Eric Stuart, better known as the voice of Brock on Pokemon, just to gauge reaction.

Last week's Daria episode- I missed it Wednesday, and I had excpected to catch the rerun Monday, except MTV decided to show a Road Rules marathon instead of Daria... What the heck happened in the finale? Seeing as how it'll be at least 3 months of reruns before we get back around to it again...

Robby
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 04:46:32 AM
IP: spider-wg073.proxy.aol.com

*Warpmind enters.*

Niamhgold: Right-ho. Gotta have respect for the ol' Chinese mystics and philosophers. Which reminds me, I gotta get that copy of Sun Tzu's Art of War...

Fire Storm: Your suggestions for a cheap way to get to the next Gathering... hmmm... okay, can scratch swimming, iceberg hopping and me driving at once. First, the northern route is not convenient during the summer half of the year, second, I'm not a good swimmer (and if Gathering 2001 is in LA, it'd be a bit dumb anyway), and third... I don't have a driver's license. Too farking expensive. 'Course, that leaves FedEx, or maybe the stowaway option... *ponder* I'll start searching flight schedules right away... ;) *Rummages in his pockets.* Now, where did I put that Phoenix gate...

SJ: Hmmm... your descriptions of Action Man... maybe it ought to air in Norway eventually? Hmmm... nah, probably won't... the action figures will probably be deemed "enough for fragile young minds"... *Sigh* I live in a cultural backwater...

Entity: Your description of an old, heavy-duty PC is frightening... that's Aasverus, my 486SX33... Well, except I have a 2X CD-ROM drive, and not a 4X... ;) Seven years old and still going strong. :| MS-DOS 6.X, of course... (I dunno which version it is; I've mixed in so many files from so many versions. Plus, I use Norton Utilities, as well, for superior disk control...)

Gside: Appreciated. Work is underway.


Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 04:09:22 AM
IP: mp-217-237-87.daxnet.no

When your father is a science teacher, you get to see some really neat stuff. Like someone throwing huge chunks of sodium into lakes. They get some nice hang time on the secondary pieces.

And is there a requitement of at least one cross dresser at each Gathering masquerade? Here we have the good Mr. Toman, and I have seen pictures of Gorebash (that still haunts me).

Warpmind> Good luck with the campaign.

Niamhgold> <<in ancient Chinese, there were always five of everything>>: Isn't that partially because four was equivalent with death? The things you learn from cooking shows...
<<you meant "electron shell", right?>>: !@$#. Yes. Oopsie. I blame the politicians.

Cyborg> <<I am really starting to annoy myself with all of these stupid little mistakes>>: Don't feel bad. I messed up right before I caught you. And I had intended to respond to the original post, but you got it first, and I liked that phrase.

Fire Storm> American McGee's Alice: Heard of it, but first person shooters don't really seem to be my thing. Though I do own both the Annotated Alice and the rareish Annotated Snark (Martin Gardner rocks my world).
<<starships with engines the size of walnuts and walnuts the size of starships>>: It blows my mind, Scotty.
<<Scarry... I understood [MUXes]>>: Truly? Then you are a talented individual.
<<our party would bring police from 3 states?>>: It probably would, and we would probably get some Norwegian officials too, if we can get Warpmind over (Hey, we'd probably need an iceberg's woth of ice, too...). If we didn't get at least two states though, it's telling us that we aren't trying hard enough.
Joke: (In an approximated form) An accountant, an artist, and an engineer (yeah, you'd never find all three together in real life, but it's a joke) were discussing whether they would rather have a wife or a mistress. The accountand said he preferred his wife, since she helped keep the house running orderly and provided stimulating conversation. The artist would rather be with a mistress, "Because, she's, like, my muse, man. She'd, like, inspire me to the most far out works of art." They then turned to the engineer, who said simply, "Both." When questioned his reasoning, he said that his wife would always think he was with his mistress, and his mistress would always think he was with his wife, so he could spend more time at the office getting his work done.
Good luck with the suit.
<< Me thinks there will be a Wintel/Linux debate in here soon>>: Although I do not currently use it, I support Linux on principle.

Shadowrider> <<it was probably what I intended...I'm sorry>>: Not a problem, I understand the problems with translation.

Sev. Jr.> <<Robby already knows their names and complete bios, since he's probably already seen the entire season>>: What about me? I have seen the entire season. So what if the resolution was horrible? It was only 30 megs per. Though I can only think of five of the six, unless...

It is time for my little tribute. The new mp3 is Colonel Bogey, as performed by the Boston Pops.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 02:39:52 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Quick post before bed. :)

Almost done re-re-tallying CR Pic votes. I just keep ending up with different numbers and I want my tally to be perfect. So the stats should be up soon. And when I get the stats done I'll also update the archive.

cherry blossom: G2K URLs below =
> http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/
> http://www.geocities.com/g2k_orlando/index.html

Speaking of which FS and I forgot to order shirts! ARGGG!!! Hope we can still get them.

Friend to remain nameless: Sent you a reply to your email. Hope it helps and hope to hear from you soon! :)

Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 01:28:27 AM
IP: 04-171.008.popsite.net

Cherry Blossom> Don't despair! I live in Ohio, and I know that at least one other person in this room does too (Patrick Toman).

G2002> I'm curious, are there any vague ideas as to where NEXT next year's Gathering will be held? It seems like after California, every region will have been visited except good 'ol midwest. :) (Just covering my bases.)

Greg B> That's how I interpreted your description of your father's remarks. At least he wants you to read. He just wants you to read "normal" stuff, eh? Certainly odd, considering that anyone who is supportive to literature would (you'd assume) be of a relatively open mind.

Fire Storm wrote: "For example (for $2558 and assuming a good gaming computer), you can make a *KILLER* single P3-800 system with 19" monitor, DVD, and STILL have enough money for a few high quality games. And thats including a burner (A near total necessity, IMHO)"

I thought about making my own computer during my last purchase (about a month ago). I decided to buy pre-made again, instead, because of the extra cost it would've involved. The system you describe cost $2558, but mine cost $500 less than that, and except for 100 Mhz less processing power, has everything there.

I'm not boasting, though. Frankly, this last purchase of mine has severely soured me to the whole process. When I go out and shell two grand I want something that's going to IMPRESS me, not just be passable, which is what I've had to lower my expectations to. You can't buy impressive systems, anymore, I swear, only passable ones -- and in that scenario, you're a winner. Basically, if you can stand your computer, you've come out on top. Pathetic. I remember the days when a brand-new computer awed me. First getting Windows 95 was an experience. First getting a CD-ROM was an experience. Same for speakers. And the larger 17" screen. I've ceased to be impressed since those days, though.

The fact is, the older systems perform BETTER, in relative terms. If you've got a CPU with 16 MB RAM, that baby can push it. That old 4x CD-ROM? It whirls up in a flash. I didn't know what Illegal Operation errors and blue screens were until two "leaps" in progress later. Now everything underperforms in favor of "safer" operation. I don't need my computer to last as long as my refrigerator, I want to get the most mileage out of it NOW.

***END HIND-SIGHTED RANT***

SJ wrote: "In the same sort of tripped out way Keanu Reeves saw code in the last part of the Matrix, Alex will look around and see mathematical numbers and equations, which allow him to see all possibilities before him. At that point, it's just a matter of picking the right course of action."

Fascinating... Unfortunately, I'll never watch the show. I can't stomach CGI cartoons. Sorry, but we're just not there yet.

Re: Cult of Greg> LMAO!!! *wipes away tear*

Re: Tom Clancy> You know, I'm sorry, but Harrison Ford never really did it for me as Jack Ryan. I personally preferred Alec "I have more hair on my chest than brain cells in my head" Baldwin. Hunt for Red October was the best of Clancy's adaptations, and Baldwin made the best Jack. Given, I've never read the novels. That's quite a pitfall. But all I can say is that Baldwin's Jack was much more appealing than Ford's. No offense to Ford. He was just... bland. As for Affleck, though... don't wanna touch that. Haven't heard it, though, which is weird, since I'm usually on top of things mentioned in here. ;) Bottom line, of course, is that he's simply far too young. Cut-and-dry.

Entity - [cotleur@mediaone.net]
North Ridgeville, OH
Wednesday, August 9, 2000 01:21:10 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Hello
Glad to hear eveyone that went to the G2K had a great time!

Mandoline- Thanks for letting us view your G2K pictures!!!

Cherry Blossom- I live in Chillicothe Ohio (Ross County)

Hey did anyone else see that new Lifetime movie last night The Truth About Jane?

Lawrence - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Chillicothe, Ohio
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 11:59:12 PM
IP: chil-ras7-1-cs-4.dial.bright.net

Okay, I'm here, and hopefully I'll remember to check in before the week is over, you think I'll be able to do it? hmm..anyways, I am now living in Ohio. After three days of pure hell, we got to our new house and started a new life. Sucks, eh?

I can't believe I had to be offline the entire time the Gathering was going on! This Sucks even worse. *cries* Is the G2K website still up? If it is, can I have the address to it someone please? I lost all my bookmarks because we got rid of aol.. :( not that getting rid of aol is a bad thing..but losing all my bookmarks is.

Has anyone seen Lexy? I was tempted to call her the other day, but then I thought, well, I don't know if she'd be at college or work or whatever, so I didn't. And here it turns out she was probably at the Gathering..Oy.

Who lives in Ohio?! I am desperate, and simply feeling alone. >.< In Wisconsin I knew of 6 other people online that lived in my state, here I know of one person...I saw someone else with a bright.net IP, so I know there must be at least one other person in Ohio. *sigh*

Well, I'll be back. See ya.

cherry blossom
OH, USA
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 11:24:06 PM
IP: stpa-ras1-2-cs-16.dial.bright.net

Okay, lots of stuff to get into tonight. Glad I'm even able to be online tonight.....last night, here in the D.C. area, there was a major thunderstorm, complete with trees falling over and the mother of all summer blackouts. Of course, the power had to go off right before I was going to tape Tenchi. Damnit. If that wasn't enough, the power was off until 3 a.m. this morning....oh, and did I mention that it was 98 degrees outside yesterday? Not exactly easy to catch my z's when it's almost a 100 degrees in my bedroom.
Then to top it all off, there's a major strike going on with Verizon (which used be Bell Atlantic), so phone service has been screwy lately.

So, I'll just march right into the entertainment news!!!!

Tom Clancy fans, get the gun ready. You may want to insert it into your mouth. For years now, the role of Jack Ryan in the film adaptions of Clancy's work has been in the capable hands of Harrison Ford (except for "Red October", in which Jack was played by Alec "I have more hair on my chest than brain cells in my head" Baldwin). Well, no longer. Unfortunately, Ford has been bitten by a little bug called age, and will no longer play Mr. Ryan. So, in the upcoming adaption of "The Sum of All Fears", Jack Ryan will be played by none other than Matt Damon's "special friend", Ben Affleck.
I will refrain from using this space to make retching noises, although I want to.
How the hell do you go from Harrison Ford to Ben Affleck? Jesus......I'd rather no Clancy films than Affleck as Ryan. Like Ben's in need of work so badly.

Thor TV Series: Remember that Thor tv series that Artisan is developing? It looks like Stan Lee himself is lobbying for Tyler Mane to play the lead. Mane is the ex-wrassler who played Sabretooth in the X-Men flick. Hey, I'm game for it. You don't exactly need a true thespian for the role, although you do need to pronounce your thee's and thou's.

Hey Kids! It's FUN to worship Satan!!!: You remember all those reports by Christians who were a bit......let's say "nervous", about the occult nature of the Harry Potter books? Well, how do I say this....THEY WERE RIGHT.
It seems that a new poll has revealed that Harry Potter, as well as the Wiccan friendly Buffy the Vampire Slayer, have been responsible for an increase in interest in "the occult and occult studies". Damn, Falwell was right. Harry Potter really is the work of the devil!
[NOTE: To all Wiccan readers, please don't flame me. I'm purposefully being a smartass here. It may be insulting you to even have to declare that I'm joking, as it's fairly obvious that I am, but due to recent history with this room, I think it better to just add this disclaimer.]

Speaking of Buffy....The creators and writers of the show have let loose a few details upon the upcoming season. They're kind of spoilerish!
* The new character Dawn won't just be "sisterly" to Buffy.....she actually WILL be Buffy's sister. At least for the first few episodes of the new season. No word on just what sort of wicked mojo is being worked on the gang, but for the first few episodes, Dawn will be Buffy's sister...and everyone knows it and is okay with it.
*Drusilla will be returning to Sunnydale. (JOY!! :) But first she'll stop by and give her old flame Angel a visit.
*Giles will be reuniting with the Watchers Council in some way.
*Xander will be getting a "skilled-labor" job. The early buzz in the fandom is that this means he'll become a junior Watcher.
*Amy....poor, poor Amy....may be come human again!

Payback's a Bitch: Sweet revenge for us music lovers. Several states have just filed a major lawsuit against several major record companies charging them with price gouging.
Gee, do you think? It only costs about a dollar to make a CD. Throw in a couple bucks for the artist. That's 3 dollars total. And they charge, what? 17, 18 bucks a CD? Ooooooh Noooooo, no price gouging here!
Listen up, record companies! You wanted to close down Napster? I hope the government takes you for what you're worth! I hope that by the time they're done with you, your @$$holes are raw and bleeding!

Cult of Greg: Okay, I could make a really crude joke here, but I won't.....All I will say, though, is that for a cult leader, Greg's not that great. I mean, hell, he hasn't ordered us to fork over all our worldly possessions, let him sleep with our wives, or proclaim him as the Messiah! This is NOT the best cult I've ever been in.

***MINOR RANT AHEAD****
Well, the Democrats have chosen a vice-presidential candidate--Sen. Joseph Lieberman. I'm sure it's a fine choice. But something about the way the media has been handling this whole thing the last couple days has pissed me off. It's this: Lieberman is a Jew. We know that. That's great. It really is--he's a man who's very religious, who is proud of his religion and has strong moral convictions. I admire that.
But for Christ's sake....no pun intended.....it would appear as if the ONLY thing that mattered about Lieberman is that he's Jewish. I can understand some commentary such as "It's great to have a Jewish vice-presidential candidate", cause that's something to be proud of. But the media...the media is structuring this like Lieberman is some sort of damn zoo animal that we all should marvel at and then poke with a stick. "Quick, everyone look! A *Jewish* vice presidential candidate!" It's pissing me off. It's terribly offensive and insulting. I know virtually NOTHING about Lieberman's politics because out of every 100 pages written about him in the past few days, 99 of those 100 is about how he's Jewish. Shouldn't the man's politics be most important here? I want to know what he stands for, what he's about. I probably won't be voting for him, but if he does indeed head for the White House, I'd like at least to know a few facts about him other than the fact that he's Jewish. It just annoys me....maybe this is just me. Anyone else feel the same way? That people are making just a bit too much out of his religion.
****END RANT***

I though I'd end this post with a review of two shows that I saw over the weekend on Fox Kids. The first was the pilot for the show "Action Man", and the second was the 2nd season debut of Beast Machines.

***REVIEW OF ACTION MAN****
I don't mean to step on any toes here, but I'll say this about Action Man: It's the show that Max Steel SHOULD be.

No offense to any Max Steel fans, but I've always thought that show was flawed. The animation was decent, but the characters didn't move me and I didn't like the writing at all. It seemed like some sort of bizarre James Bond Jr. ripoff. Action Man has a somewhat similar theme. The hero is a young man by the name of Alex Mann. Alex is the star of what appears to be some sort of extreme sports league, but he has a secret. Whenever he's in an extremely stressed condition (like, say, he's about to fall to his death), he suddenly sees math. Really. In the same sort of tripped out way Keanu Reeves saw code in the last part of the Matrix, Alex will look around and see mathematical numbers and equations, which allow him to see all possibilities before him. At that point, it's just a matter of picking the right course of action.

The show starts with Alex engaged in a bizarre race across the Parisian rooftops that's part obstacle course and bungee jump. He's aided by his crew: pilot Desmond "Grinder" Sinclair, perky camera girl Fidget Wilson, and business manager Nick Masters. His opponent for the race is his long time rival and friend, Brandon Caine. (As a side note: any true comic book fan who sees the show will know right away that Caine is destined to be the villain. Why? He's wearing Green and Purple. It's the supervillain color scheme of choice. Green Goblin, Lex Luthor (during the Kryptonian Power Suit days), Joker--they all love green and purple clothing. It's a rule). Caine attempts an extreme stunt to get the win in the race which almost ends in disaster, but Alex uses his "math" to save the day. Afterwards, he receives an email from a mysterious source telling him to "beware of candy from strangers".

This cryptic message comes true when he's visiting Caine in the hospital. A box of chocolates is delivered to the room, and from the box springs a tiny mechanical spider that hijacks the TV reception and broadcasts a message from the shadowy Dr. X. X offers the two athletes a chance to "enhance" themselves. Alex instantly refuses, but Caine--surprise, surprise--doesn't.

The next act features Alex about to engage in another contest, this one in Switzerland. It's a bizarre sort of snowboarding / hangliding / glacier-climbing / skiing combination. What's truly surprising is that Caine makes an appearance, and proceeds to beat Alex in a rather embarassing fashion. Ever the good sportsman, Alex congratulates the winner....only to have Caine trap him on a ski lift and suddenly become aggressive. So aggressive that his adrenaline causes him to morph into a cyborg monster....naturally, the work of Dr. X and his enhancements. While Dr. X observes via another spider droid, Alex and Caine fight, the ski lift crashes, an avalanche starts, and once again Alex saves himself by using his "math". The same mysterious individual who warned him before know makes contact over his comm line, warning him of Dr. X.

Overall, I was very impressed with the show. The animation is great--Mainframe continuing to put out some very fine work. And I liked the plot. Nothing too complex. Rather simple, actually, but it was an excellent introduction piece to the show. It set up the main characters and established the main conflict of the series. Plus, we get treated to lots of cool action.

I enjoyed the characters, true. Alex is something of a boy scout, but that's refreshing today. You're left wondering exactly why Alex sees "math"; why he has this power and how he will use it in the future. Dr. X makes an interesting villain; he's not terribly developed, seeing as he's in the shadows most of the time, plotting. Caine is more your typical tragic soul, and I liked the fact that they made him somebody to pity, rather than hate. Alex's crew seem like fun, too. Grinder is the cool cat, who's good at piloting and mechanics. Fidget is intensely manic and full of energy. And Ricky is the humorous business manager who's more concerned with getting a sponsor's plug done than in Alex giving a victory speech. Overall, I liked all of their personalities.

This was a fun show. It worked for me, and I'm definitely interested in seeing how it develops. The writing was good, the animation superb, and the acting was great as well. The show is a vast improvement over it's predecessor. I do not know if any one else remmebers this, but this is not the first Action Man series. There was another one, done in a similar fashion a few years ago in standard 2d animation, but it was just awful. Dr. X looked like a reject from the WWF, Action Man was played by this godawful British actor, and the theme was more along the lines of a G.I. Joe espionage riff. So far, this one episode is better than that entire series. I'm interested in seeing where this show is headed.
****END REVIEW FOR ACTION MAN***

****REVIEW FOR BEAST MACHINES***
I don't know....it's not as if this was a bad episode, I just expected something a little more after the cataclysmic events in last season's cliffhanger ending....The new episode is called "Fallout", and it pretty much picks up where the cliffhanger left off. Optimus Primal, realizing that by engulfing Cybertron in plasma he will destroy it, he shuts off the power....but his body is destroyed in the process. Fortunately, the end of the Techno-Organic War has left Megatron vanquished, with his forces nothing but piles of scrap. The Maximals wander about Cybertron, wondering what to do next and mourning the loss of their leader. Meanwhile, Optimus makes peace with the Matrix, and realizes that his fanaticism led to the near destruction of his home planet. Ultimately, he realizes the true purpose of their mission on Cybertron, and the true reason why the Beast Wars were fought--he is to help Cybertron to become a cyberorganic planet. Once he realizes this, he returns to the world in a new body (with the same old design) and is ready to lead the others in fulfilling their destiny.....until they see Megatron's home base become airborne and fly away.....

It was a good episode. Perhaps I was a bit let down in that most of this was a quiet episode, which makes sense, seeing as everyone has just been through a war. I must say--Beast Machines is terribly metaphysical for a kiddie show. For at least 2 extended periods of time, Optimus is shown pondering his existence and conversing with the Matrix--his version of God. The animation was good. I liked the development with Thrust and Jetstream. Overall, while this episode didn't blow my skirt up (and I was wearing one, honest!), I did enjoy it.

And we learned a few things from this episode:
*The Matrix sent the Maximals to Earth, where they fought the Beast Wars, so that they could gain techno-organic bodies to carry back to Cybertron, to fulfill Cyberton's destiny of becoming a techno-organic being. That's the real reason behind the Beast Wars.
*Rhinox / Tankor is dead. His spark has rejoined the Matrix.
* There's a whole slew of new 'bots coming.

That was the coolest part of the episode. It was early in the show, right before Optimus stopped the plasma charges. He transformed from beast mode to bot mode, and as he did so, there was a quick flash of SIX different robots. You had to have a slo-mo on your VCR to catch it. One of the six looked like some sort of dark-blue wolf....another two looked vaguely insect-like (and MEAN looking). Another looked robot-like, one looked almost humanoid, and the final bot was the robot / plant female shown in the previews for this season. Cool new characters, though. I can't wait to see them.

Although I'm sure Robby already knows their names and complete bios, since he's probably already seen the entire season.
[Sorry Robby, I'm just poking a little fun. No offense, it's just that it seems like as soon as a show debuts here, you've already seen it somehow. I envy you, goddamnit! ;) ]

****END BEAST MACHINES REVIEW****

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 11:12:28 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Hola mi amigos!
Brooklyn is back! How is everyone? I trust those who went to G2K had a blast! I hope anyway.
Well here is some news for people.
1)Episode three will be out by Friday. With any luck so will episode four be out by the next week.
2)My scuptures that I'm doing will have be put off until I can afford to buy clay.But Hudson and Deborah will definately be first.
That's it for news. Pretty pathetic huh!
One major reply to everyone who asked about me or commented on my war with the flu.
Thank You. It was nice to know people were concerned.
That's about it for now.

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 10:38:14 PM
IP: usr196.cqc.com

[poking from cyberspace, a CRT tube emerges into th CR, filled with static... then, like the books in Myst, a familiar face appears.]

Greetings all... It's me, Stephen! I made it down to Tampa with no misshap. Currently using my mom's WebTv to post.... can't say much now beacause it's late here. Will have more to report in the morning.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, Fla., USA
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 10:06:47 PM
IP: proxy-692.public.rwc.webtv.net

"Hey, it's good to be back home again." Especially after five hours of airports and airplanes. :P (Well, I left with a John Denver quote, so it only seems fitting to return with one.)

Yes, I have lived to tell of yet another Gathering. There is way too much to talk about being as tired as I am right now, but the very abbreviated summary is the con totally kicked ass. It was great seeing everyone again... especially those folks I hadn't seen in a couple years, like kathy.

And kathy... my hat goes off to you. Everyone who hasn't already, please scroll down and read her post. That's everything I can possibly say right now about Gathering 2001 except to give a huge thank you to everyone who came forward at G2K to fill out a G2001 registration form and prepay their membership for next year's con. We've got over 70 people already registered for next year's convention, but as totally super as that is, they are only the beginning. A G2001 web site will be online very soon, so that everyone else will be able to start making their plans to attend next year's convention, too. As I said, G2K kicked ass, but G2001 is gonna kick even MORE ass. You will NOT want to miss out!

My favorite G2K moment? I think it's gotta be winning the "Thom Adcox Hernandez Award" (the award Thom got to give to anyone for any reason he wanted) at the closing ceremonies Sunday night. And since I didn't get a chance to take the mike and make a speach... I'd just like to take a breif moment now to thank Christine, Jen (AKA CrzyDemona), and Aimee Major for the various parts they played in helping me win that great honor. >:)

And now that I have totally got everyone who hasn't seen pics from the con yet wondering... I shall close for the night offering only these vague hints as spoliers and wait for the news to catch up with me. :)

:: laughs evilly and scurries off ::

Patrick Toman
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 08:57:31 PM
IP: ac907d04.ipt.aol.com

Gathering:: \

I dont know so much about the weather being rainy, but i wasnt there all week.. SO... ::shrug, smile:: I did like the thundershower though... It was beautiful as are most unbridled forces of nature.
Shinigami
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 08:02:05 PM
IP: spider-tp084.proxy.aol.com

DPH: Word of wisdom: Do NOT go for NT 4.0. 4.0 dosn't have enough features to make it worth wild. 2000 Pro is great!

And hey, if you are going to spend that much, make it yourself! Or have me do it! ;)

But seriously, if you are at the point where you are seriously considering buying a computer from a non-retail non-big-mail-order (Dell, Micron, Gateway), you are probally at the point where you can either build a good system or would probally like a little more knowledge about computers.

If you build your own system, you can get EXACTLY what you want in a computer. No junk software. Get the EXACT monitor you want. Get the exact trackball/mouse/keyboard you want.

I tell you, the retail and mail-order computers are great for first time (and occasional second time) buyers, but after that I seriously reccomend either going with a heavy customizeable system (from a smaller company), or making it yourself.

For example (for $2558 and assuming a good gaming computer), you can make a *KILLER* single P3-800 system with 19" monitor, DVD, and STILL have enough money for a few high quality games. And thats including a burner (A near total necessity, IMHO)

And the REALLY good thing about making your own comp...
You can easily tell what you have! That makes upgrading alot easier.

(BTW... checked out that website... not a bad choice. Seems like they have some good selections and quality) I am curious though... what configuration did you choose?

<I hope I do not have any that are smarter than me.>
Tis the greatest sucess of a parent when ones own child surpasses the parent.

Bonnieway...


Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky: <Oh c'mon, only a couple of those images are sensual>
Hey, I ain't complaining! It just seems like you picked the cream of the crop! The look on her face on MANY (about half) of the images is quite sensual IMHO.
They are nice pictures! Can't wait until the site is done!
<I'm trying to think of what else to add to it>
Hmm... a "Are you with me or against me?" quiz.Questions:
1.Are you Human?
2. Are you a miserable, dispicable human?
3. Are you Elisa Maza?
If you answered "Yes" to any of the above questions, get out of here so REAL gargoyles can take this quiz, or I will rip your lungs out! :)

Coyote: <(FS, I'll let ya know when I can return them to you.)>
No problem. Heck, I can also teach you how to do it while I'm at it!
Weekends, Tuesdays and Thursdays are good for me.

Shadowrider: <MTV Italia is probably going to broadcast the episode in a few weeks>
Thats good. At least that show comes out in other countrys soon after it is aired here.

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 07:36:49 PM
IP: 08-207.008.popsite.net

Hi! Sorry for missing for a while, RL is strange sometimes.

GXB:> I'm a bit late, but I'm very sorry to hear about your problems with your father. I'm quite lucky, beacuse I usually have good relations with my parents, but I know how difficult life can be sometimes in a family. Your father seems a difficult person to deal with...a curiosity: according to what you know, does he behave in that way with other people too, or just with you? No offense intended, I assure you, and if you don't like the question for any reason, I apologize.

Jannie:> Hmmm...again that...(can't find the adjective)...director...well, I already expressed mi opinion about her, and this further episode you tell us is just a confirm. I have two scars on my forehead...result of an accident in the last bike race I took part, if you want to know...so, according to that woman, I'm supposed to wear a balaclava...well, I'm happy to hear you're going not to see her any more. For sure, she doesn't deserve you to loose your health for her.

Gside:> Yes, it was probably what I intended...I'm sorry, but I couldn't find the English word for what I intended, so I used the nearest thing I could find, although I knew it was not perfectly fitting...but, on the other side, maybe the fact they placed chandeliers in the bathrooms IS one of the reasons for which they are in bad waters...;)

Fire Storm:> Daria: no problem, MTV Italia is probably going to broadcast the episode in a few weeks.
<<Hey, how many structural or mechanical engineers do we have in here? >> Well, I'm studying to became an Aerospace Eng., someone said me that in the U.S. it is part of MechEng, so I think you can count me as a would-be...

Nothing more. See you all.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 06:34:12 PM
IP: h213-20-40.mi2.albacom.net

Gathering - I did not mean for my comments to be taken as an excuse. I plan on going, if possible. Possible means that I have money saved up for the trip and vacation time from a full time job.

Computer - As much as I distrust microsoft's power, I am sticking with the operating system. I am going to reprice with Windows 2000 and Windows NT. All I really want is one version of windows: Windows BF (Bug-Free). I have been pricing with a certain company: XI (www.xicomputer.com). $2558 with full tower and Windows NT workstation PRO.

GXB - It seems like your father would have learned what not to do from his father. It is up to you to break the cycle with your future children.

Future children - I hope I do not have any that are smarter than me. I will definitely take classes on parenting because I do not want to treat my children the way my dad treats me.

**WORK RELATED**
It is funny how things turn around. I have been being griped at by a co-worker for taking my time at the end to ensure accuracy in measurement when today I get a complaint from a person above me about the measurement of wires not being sufficient. Hahahaha.
**END WORK RELATED**

**RP RELATED**
Today, I will finish comments about characters. The rest of the week will . . .
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues while being monitored**
*continuing right where I left out*
"We do not know anything about this characer. Expect anything." said Elaine.

Elaine continued speaking, "We suspect there was someone else inside the house based on all weapons ceasing to work at the same time. About this person, expect anything."

Elaine clicked a mouse button and the image on the screen said 'General Recommendations when dealing with these demon spawn'.
**END BFTS RP for now**

If anyone can think of better word choice for describing mutants to mutant haters, tell me.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 06:00:15 PM
IP: max1-23.cwy.cei.net

**yawns**

Whew, I thought you weren't supposed to get jet lag when ya stayed in the same time zone. **yawns again** Ah well, maybe it's just Gathering letdown, who knows?

Anyhoo, here goes the obligatory Gathering report ...
After spending about three nights or so on the floor of XenaTrek's apartment (during which time I got the chance to check out Universal Islands of Adventure and hang out with Damocles), I moved into the hotel and started this whole Gathering business.

Highlights of the weekend:
* FINALLY! Meeting Mara-ko, even though our first encounter *did* come when the poor sweetheart was half asleep. **pauses to kiss her**
* 3x3 Eyes. Folks, this 'un is worth buying, even solely for all of the Gargoyles-related in-jokes Greg managed to work in! :)
* The life drawing sessions. Should help immensely when I get back to posting new artwork.
* The radio show. Top secret and all, but good.
* The Masquerade, especially how Mara-ko's costume came out. **pauses to kiss her again** My dear, you made a lovely Fox.

Things that were kind of a bummer:
* Didn't get to spend a lot of time with Mara, mainly because of commitments I made to pick up folks on Friday.
*Didn't get to spend a lot of time *alone* with Mara, mainly because she was one of the more popular attendees there.
* Getting completely lost bringing GB and Kenna to the hotel from the bus station. Not fun.
* Repeatedly getting lost trying to drive around Orlando.
*The fact that I didn't get a filkbook because I was never at the main table when they were being sold.
*Running low on money. Next year, I'm budgeting myself at least a grand.
* Weather woes. Unfortunately, it happened to be the rainy season.

But all in all, it was a good time had by all. And I'm in for LA. Hopefully I'll be able to get the time off and the money required.

Gathering pics: Gonna be a while before ya see mine, I gotta get FS his film cards back, then he can extract them. (FS, I'll let ya know when I can return them to you.)

Stephen: If ya get a chance to see this ... told XenaTrek about your new location, she may be able to pay ya a visit and show ya around.

**moment of silence for Alec Guinness**



GXB: No need to apologize. That situation sucks, and I'll back ye, too. There's no excuse for that.

XenaTrek: Like I told ya, keep on it early enough and they'll be able to accommodate you. Helps to e-mail all the folks higher up on the totem pole for the con, especially Crzy and Kathy, they will do their best. I know they will.

Spacebabie: I'm glad I count as a sweetie. :)

Hmm ... that appears to be caught up.

**gives a big hug to Mara-ko, glad that she made it back safely, before leaving**

Coyote the Bando - [1134@i-is.com]
Back in Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 05:56:56 PM
IP: 216.28.101.129

Entity> Thanks for support. What I think is going on with my Dad, and in particular what he said about Greg Weisman was jealousy. I had a lot more respect and admiration for Greg than I did for him (not that I misbehaved mind you). Before "Gargoyles" you could not get me to appreciate things like reading and Shakespeare and other things. My Dad used to fight with me to read.

Then along comes "Gargoyles" and I start reading, "Ask Greg" goes up and I'm reading more, I join TGS and I'm reading a lot for research and ideas. He should be delighted but he isn't. He wanted me to read because he tells me to not because some "dumm cartoon tells me to". And he disaproves of what I read anyway... Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Shakespeare (supposedly I got him sick of the Bard). And I'm not going to get into what he thinks of my involvment with TGS.

I don't think he has a problem with Greg himself, he just hates the show and its involvment in my life. And thinks I should look elseware for people to admire and call heros (Greg is a hero to me, he inspired me to read and start writing). He thinks I should have looked to someone like Michael Jordan as a role model because "normal kids and teenagers do". But my father does not hate Greg, he just likes to make statements like that to get my attention.

He gets along just fine with my younger 16 year old brother who is also a fan of "Gargoyles", and collects "Transformers" and stuff also and has no problem with that. So I think his problems with me are deeper than that.

Sorry for another long rant everybody.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 04:37:34 PM
IP: dialin-143-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well, first off, welcome back from The Gathering, everyone! Hey, next year's Gathering being held in LA is just one more reason for me to go to USC, no? ;)

Greg "X" Bishansky> Oh man. I am very sorry about everything between you and your dad, and that you couldn't attend Orlando.

Reading all of what you wrote, I couldn't help but gasp at just about every other line. I don't mean to make light of things, but Greg Weisman a cult leader! I couldn't imagine what I'd do if my dad said the things yours did.

Your dad seems to be representative (albiet to the extreme) of parents nowadays. Well, maybe they've always been like this, but I wouldn't know. Point is, they're ignorant, they pre-judge, and they're just convinced that there must be SOMETHING wrong with you. I think news, movies and television have conditioned them to assume their kids are going to turn out bad. When they don't, they find reasons to color them otherwise.

I identify with your dad bringing you to a psychologist. My parents almost did the same thing not more than a year ago. I didn't know whether to be outraged, amused or just saddened. I had to cheer when you continued to say the shrink sided with you!

Entity - [cotleur@mediaone.net]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 03:58:32 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Kitainia and everyone else> Thanks for your support.

Firestorm> Oh c'mon, only a couple of those images are sensual. Besides, Demona wants to have her good side shown. Glad you like it, I'm trying to think of what else to add to it.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 03:03:35 PM
IP: dialin-143-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

For those of you so absolutely "It's the end of the world, and I want to read TGS!", check out the fan-fic archive while you are waiting!
There are some very good writers in there, and a few of them are even are based on TGS!
The Barracuda, for example, has a story series called "Beginning Anew: TGS Season 3"
Or, for you more adult minded readers, there is always Madame Destine.
My point? (What, am I always supposed to have a point?)
The TGS staff is working very hard at both RL (which takes up most of the staff's time) and Season 3 of Pendragon and TGS.
These people are working at this very professionaly, making sure everything is accurate, sounds good, and is well written.

Unfortunaltely, good stories take time. So, to pass the time, I am making a reading assignment for the people in this room. I shall start with some of the works by the early TGS staffers. I expect everyone to read the entire works of Merlin Missy/Nancy Brown by next Monday. ESPECIALLY the "Consequences" Trilogy.

(I am not a TGS staffer, and yes that was an endoresment for some very good writers)

Gside: <Super Micro also makes an ATX Xeon board>
From what I can tell Super Micro makes the ONLY 4 processor Xeon motherboard comerically purchasable!
Have you heard about "American McGee's Alice" video game coming out? Looks like you may like it!
Oh, and I asked about the gathering because it would be interesting to meet you.
<We can make him better... bigger... stonger... faster... The King.. of.. Spain. I'm telling you I was the King of Spain.>
He can fly starships with engines the size of walnuts and walnuts the size of starships!
<That probably didn't make any more sense>
Scarry... I understood it.
<Nah, won't be that good without duct tape or police light bars (I know a source)>
Why do I have a feeling that if we let people do whatever they wanted and bring whatever they wanted, our party would bring police from 3 states? (To join in the fun!)
<Have you heard the one about the accountant, artist, and engineer giving their preferences between a wife and a mistress?>
No... but I want to!

Doug: <Also thanks for the Daria info- it really stinks not having cable when you miss great moments like what I think you mentioned>
For about $20 a month, you can get Dish Network. It gets MTV and pretty much every other station out there. Then you can watch Toon Disney!
I know money is a little tight, but think of it this way: Thats less than 75 cents a day!

<>RANT WARNING!<>

Hey, remember that REAL jerk I told everyone about? Ya know... the one that wouldn't stop calling, called on holidays and days he knew I was sick/busy, etc.
Well, guess who is suing me? Thats right! And do you want to know why?

This will kill you!

It's SO rediculious.

Are you ready?

He is suing me because I WON'T RETURN HIS CALLS! Silly, eh? I mean, I have no contractual or financial agreement to return his calls and on the back of the invoice he signed it clearly said that there was NO WARRANTY!

I hope this guy falls off the face of the Earth!

<>END MINI-RANT!<>

On the lighter side, someone at my new work likes Gargoyles! Yeah!

Wilek: <My GODS... :O>
I know! Just stay out of it's first blast and you will be ok.
<Hm...I know a place that gives free DSL access, but it involves convincing ten people to download a software thingy>
Or you pay $200 for the modem. Not TOO bad... but if you break the 5 year contract you pay $700!
<That's nothing--I have balloons and shiny things!>
Shiny things! <POING!>
<Body count>
Remember at the begining of the RP? I tried to stop it by destroying the universe! Many untold TRILLIONS of sentient species, not to mention all the individuals from all those species! Beat THAT! :P

Niamhgold: <I _have_ to watch the show, since Daria is one of my namesakes...and I've never seen Trent with so much impact on an ep. :)>
What about the episode with Daria's multimedia project? Oh, BTW... you are CRUEL to the others! ;)

Warpmind: <Wish I could be there, but the airfare 'cross the Atlantic was a *wee* bit too steep... :(>
I just checked prices for you... $1,1097!
Cheaper ways to get across the Atlantic:
Hide in the wheel well of a Boeing 777! (Someone did that recently... and LIVED!)
Swim!
Go as far north as you posably can, and hop on a Iceberg!
Hmm...
OH! You can always try to be either a 'mate or a passanger on a US bound freighter. Sometimes freighters allow it for a small fee, probally alot less than $1000! Then... you rent a car and drive across the US whenever you reach your North American destination. OR find someone on the east coast that was going to drive anyway and bum a ride off of them!
OH! OH! FedEX or UPS yourself! :)
Hmm... OR... get into a business where you are the lackey of a rich industrial type and ask him/her to fly you to LA for the gathering!
But there has GOT to be a way to get everyone here for at least ONE year!

SargeAbernathy: <Sorry for the Double Mint Post!>
Double your pleasure, double your fun!

Shadowrider: <Whoa...I'll have absolutely to see the ep...>
Well, over at Daria.MTV.com they have a clip of just the kiss, but it isn't worth it unless you see the WHOLE episode!

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky: <Shrine to Demona>
Humans suck
Elisa Maza is a homewrecker... :)
(Ok... is it just me, or are those the most sensual images of Demona from the show?)

Gunjack Valentine: Ah... the room wasn't as trigger happy without you! :)

Jannie: As an egineer, I resemble that joke! :)

Hey, how many structural or mechanical engineers do we have in here?
How many want to be in the American version of Junkyard Wars? YES! There is going to be an American version!
Who wants to joing the team "Defenders of the Night?"
<http://tlc.discovery.com/tlcpages/junkyard/junkyard.html>

Cyborg: <The five states of matter are: solid, liquid, gaseous, and plasma>
I have counted that three (5 sir), er... five times, and all I get is *4* states of matter.

SJ: (On an episode of one of those police shows)
(The police enter a house for a search warrant. They police storm in and run into a man's bedroom. He has a shotgun in his bed. He points it at the police and the police shoot him)
Idiot: Hey man, why did you shoot me?

Mandolin: <STARGATE SPOILERS>
How about O'Neil with tha grin on his face? :)

DPH: <Has Microsoft fixed the Cancel button bug (security hole) in either Windows 98 or 2000?>
For 98, no. For 2000, yes.
2000 is the best of NT and the best of 98. I like it! The only thing I do NOT like about it is that my new DVD card and video capture card are not supported yet.
Be warned, though. A 2000 Professional computer will run you $1200 plus!

Hmm... Me thinks there will be a Wintel/Linux debate in here soon...

2 + 2 = 4, 2 x 2 = 4, 2^2 = 4

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 02:33:39 PM
IP: 03-035.008.popsite.net

DPH>"I still have not decided on the OS:Windows 98/2000 or Windows NT" Go with Linux, its so much easier and it does not crash as much, plus it is free. I like the Gnome desktop best. If you can use Windows, you can use any Xwindows desktop.

Gside>"and you miscounted" I am really starting to annoy myself with all of these stupid little mistakes I have been making.

Niamhgold>"He said sixth graders should be outside playing, and had no business arguing with the teacher." I hate teachers like that, it took me until grade ten to learn to ignore them. I had one teacher who insisted that there were no such thing as negative numbers when we were learning to add and subtract.

Au revoir

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 02:18:12 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

Popped in to say that I am looking foward to new TGS episode soon. hint hint (GONE)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 10:53:39 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.37.178.sandiego1.level3.net

Back from The Gathering...

Tired, very tired, but pumped too. To those folks I got a chance to sit down and talk with. Thanks, it was great to catch up with old friends and get to know some of the rest of you better.

Best moment of The Gathering? For me it was seeing Green Baron's face when a certain bomb was dropped, but I also really enjoyed the panels and video presentations, especially my first real introduction to anime, "Three By Three Eyes". I don't think I'll ever get used to the visual style, but I 'm definitely interested in the story telling.

GATHERING 20001 Q & A AND NEWS

MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!!!!! YOU MUST BE IN THE CITY OF ANGELS (that's Los Angeles) FROM JUNE 22 -25 2001!!

G2001 is going to be THE GATHERING to end all GATHERINGS!! FOUR DAYS of PANELS AND WORKSHOPS for both WRITERS and ARTISTS. APPEARANCES BY GARGOYLES STAFF, CELEBRITIES and OTHER INTERESTING PEOPLE. CONTESTS. ART SHOW. MASQUERADE BALL. BANQUET. DEALERS ROOM and AN AUCTION FULL OF GOOD STUFF!!

THE G2001 WEBSITE WILL BE GOING LIVE SOON! Check it regularly for important updates like CONVENTION LOCATION and SPECIAL GUESTS.

WE NEED YOUR HELP!!
To maximize fan attendance next year we need to SPREAD THE WORD. TELL YOUR FRIENDS, TELL TOTAL STRANGERS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TELL US! We need the locations of GARGOYLES, STARSHIP TROOPERS, ANIMATION, FANTASY AND OTHER ALLIED WEBSITES AND NEWSGROUPS!

The more fans that know about GATHERING 2001, the more fans who will attend. The more fans who attend, the more likely DISNEY EXECUTIVES will TAKE US SERIOUSLY. The more seriously they take us the more likely we are to get THE GARGOYLES MOVIE OR EVEN A RETURN TO TELEVISION!!

AND WE ALL WANT THAT, DON'T WE?

NOW A COUPLE OF ANSWERS FOR QUESTIONS POSTED SO FAR.

Though you can't catch them all we have checked against the current line up of conventions for next year and we are not conflicting with any other major event next summer. SO MARK YOUR CALENDAR NOW.

Special needs accomodations: We can try our best to accomodate special needs if you let us know in advance. Send us email (address pending) and let us know about handicap access, interpreters, etc.

Hotel accomodations: Currently securing a location for the convention is in the works. You wouldn't think so, but locking down a convention site for people who run around in tails and wings can be incredibly complicated. We'll keep you posted.

That's all the news for now. Thanks and SEE YOU at G2001!!

kathy - [kapogge@excite.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 09:42:01 AM
IP: rr-165-123-73.atl.mediaone.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hello to all that survived the Gathering! :) I hope you had great fun, and I'm glad, through Mandolin's pictures, that I could put faces to the names! (Glad to see that Aaron won Xanatos's money, as well :)) I knew 3X3 Eyes would have a great following!

Warpmind: I think, in European terms, you're right about life/ether being the fifth element in ancient alchemy :) However, my source was Chinese mythology--and in ancient Chinese, there were always five of everything--5 senses, 5 cardinal colors, etc. Rather cool, actually :)

Cyborg: <Liquid, solid, gas, and plasma> Of course, in ancient alchemy, they didn't really have a grasp of the idea of plasma (hardly of gas, either). I was looking for the elements used in, say, magical spells and such, since, in alchemy, they couldn't really make use of air as an ingredient. But thank you!

Gside: < It's so fun to heat something until its election shell melts off > Definitely--of course, you meant "electron shell", right? ;) I remember my elementary school teacher telling me plasma was a scientist's folly, when I once brought up to him the *four* states of matter (not three!). He said sixth graders should be outside playing, and had no business arguing with the teacher. >:) Heh.

Mandolin: I agree with you on the business of TGS--a lot of hard work goes into it, and these writers are spending their free time doing this stuff pro bono! I have great respect for them :) Oh, and thanks for the pics!

Adios!

NIamhgold
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 08:32:58 AM
IP: lac-flex97.ncia.net

*Warpmind enters, accompanied by the chords of "Still Crazy After All These Years".*
Hi, gang. Finally found my very own themesong. :)

GXB: Aw, man! You have my most sincere sympathy! Sometimes, with some parents, the kid would be better off with a total cutoff from the moment the umbilicus was cut... it's always sad to see an example of that. Hope you come out better off...

DPH: You live in Arkansas, and you complain about Gathering inconveniences? I live in farking Norway! That's on the other side of the Atlantic, and about 1,000$ airfare in the vacation season!

Jannie: Your b!tch principal claims you're showing off your scar? Sheesh! Oh, well, since it was a surgical scar, I guess chances are the scar'll fade in due time... (Hey, maybe we should compare scars someday? I have this little l-shaped scar partially covered by my left eyebrow - blind luck (pun intended) allowed me to keep the eye.)

Gside: Ether does not exist? Well, that just leaves the undefinable Life Force, then. :)

Well, that's it for now. I gotta get back to replying to Chaosium about the Call of Cthulhu Campaign Writing submission I sent them, and they replied to... They were doubtful, and requested more info. :| Wish me luck, gang.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 08:11:36 AM
IP: mp-217-209-232.daxnet.no

The Gathering/Con: This the first time I've attended The Gathering and is certainly different than going to a Star Trek and/or Sci-Fi Con... they have the same elements more or less... but there is more interaction between the guest and the con-goers which I would love to see more of.

I wish I could say I had fun at the seminars and the radio play, etc.,... but it was very difficult to hear and understand in those rooms... and I apologize to anyone if I seemed rude, etc... it is extremely fustrating when I am unable to hear and/or understand what is being said, etc., while everyone else can. (Note to 2001 Con Staffers -- please do take note about next year's gathering below).

The best part of this con is putting the faces to the names of those on both garg rooms. I'm really glad I got to meet and know some of you guys and I hope you think of me the same. Thanks Winter, Rene, GB, Demona May, Jenna, Rico, Mara, Aaron, Siren (sp??), Crzy and many others, I am glad to count you guys as my friends.

I also want to thank Seth again for helping me out the first day with the sign lanuage. I really appreciate it.

I'm gonna try to come next year... first got to see if I can get someone to pay for SIGGRAPH that will be in LA in August... if someone does... then I should be able to come, it not... it may have to be the 2002. (To the 2001 staffers... If I do come to 2001... Please do let me know if you are able or unable to provide accomendations... i.e. signers. Thx.)


XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 07:19:21 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Soon we shall be rejoined by those who managed to Gather. While we are waiting, check out the wings on this guy: http://www.itswalky.com/transformers/bc00/03.gif

Shadowrider> <<Entering the bathroom, you find one of the managers hanging from the chandelier>>: A chandelier in the bathroom? I think I would have liked to work at a place like that. Unless you actually meant a light fixture.

Cyborg> <<smell those murcury fumes!>>: Twinkle, twinkle, little bat! How I wonder what you're at! Why is a raven like a writing desk?
<<The five states of matter are: solid, liquid, gaseous, and plasma>>: It is so much fun to heat something until its election shells melt off. (Oh, and you miscounted)

Warpmind> <<the elusive fifth element was, according to the lore I've encountered, ether>>: It has been proven conclusively (involving lasers, mirrors, and right angles) that the ether does not exist. Yes, electromagnetic waves do not have an environment through which they propogate.

GXB> May you have the strength to deal with all that will come of these dealings with your father.

DPH> <<If they have not, darn it, I will have to get Windows NT>>: They probably haven't, but how many programs do you have that need the DOS and other backward compatability (usually emulation and games)? Though isn't 2000 more related to NT?

Na zodorv'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 04:05:06 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*stretches, yawns and decides that she may as well stay up another few hours til dawn anyhow... her innerclock still set on "Convention time"*

Spacebabie: LOL... was it bad enough to be considered a squabble? It was tons of fun at any rate.. and I felt like SUCH a BA doing some bidding. So thank you for kindly letting me win. :)

*stops, remembers something and sends Demmie-chan out to thank Aaron for the use of his number during the auction*

What else? I had an awesome first con. Meeting everyone... weird... kinda fun.. but wierd. The first event I really went to was Thom's voice acting thing, he was incredibly nice and fun (I still have his sig on my stomach)Greg was really nice even though incorrigible little old me was talking (quietly I hope) throughout 3X3 eyes. It defies description...you need to buy these tapes! The Masquerade and Dinner (candlelight by neccessity for a good half of it)
were great fun.. especially since my table was MY table. (I had the FOx table, who I was dressed as... well.. you see Mandolin's pics) I really didnt want to leave at all... so many memories for me!



Shinigami - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 03:58:59 AM
IP: spider-wl074.proxy.aol.com

<An indistinct whistling figure walks across a bridge, in the middle of which is tied a protesting JRSU. The bridge explodes after the figure finishes crossing it. The figure then gets on a horse, puts on a turban, and leads a horde of Arabian swordsmen in a charge, trampling DC. The figure dismounts, walks into a room where Nazis are rallying and nods at their Sieg Heils, then goes onto a stage and delivers the famous "to be or not to be" soliloquoy for all to hear. After that it begins running across the sets of many motion pictures, finally collapsing breathless at the feet of an actor playing Macbeth on a school stage and yelling, "My Lord....I..<gasp>...must...report..." Applause drowns out the rest. The figure steps up and doffs its hat, revealing itself to be Kitainia>
That's my salute to Sir Alec Guiness. No mention of Star Wars, just his other famous roles- Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, Hitler- the Final Days, Hamlet, and the one that started it all- his school play Macbeth. Learned about the last one in today's paper. Truly a great actor this man was, he will be missed deeply. <moment of silence>

GXB: Your father sounds like a very awful, selfish, and generally mean-spirited person. I feel very sad for him. Hope you can mend your relations someday, though it doesn't seem likely. For now I'm just glad everyone, especially that shrink, is on your side in the matter. Too bad for your dad. <grins>

More later.

Kitainia
Tuesday, August 8, 2000 01:46:09 AM
IP: pool-207-205-149-227.dlls.grid.net

Greg B.> Very interesting list for TGS. I was on the floor laughing at seeing Sarah Michelle Gellar play Liz cause all my friends think that I look just like her. So if we make a movie I guess I'll be a shoe-in for that part :) I guess I *am* a techno nerd.

I hope everyone had a great time at the Gathering this year! I'm hoping to make it next year and very probably in 2002. I'll be on my own by then.

SOROW
Monday, August 7, 2000 11:39:06 PM
IP: dll2a010-0523.splitrock.net

*paces floor while Denis is flying home* Flying makes me so nervous and I'll be glad when I hear that he's made it safely home :)

I went to the school today to sign my leave of absence papers and ran into the b!tch principal. The first thing out of her mouth was, " you and my husband both wear low cut shirts just to show off your scars." *blinks* I had a V-neck shirt on that only the tip of my incision showed. It was NOT low-cut!! I'd have to wear a turtleneck in order to not have any of my chest incision show! I just stared at her in disbelief.
That's alright though - I had a very nice conversation with the school's personnel director and personal friend of mine this morning and I filled his ears full. I didn't tell him, but this is going to be my last year of teaching. I asked him what my options were this year against her harassment and abusive treatment towards me. Not this year! *shakes head* I'm not going to take it anymore.
Stress was a major contributing factor to my heart problems... Anna was number 1 and b!tch principal was #2.

Life is too short so I'm moving to Missouri at the end of this school year :)

I can't wait to see more pictures (thanks Mandolin!) and hear more stories of G2K =) Denis was suppose to have registered me for Gathering 2001 already and I'm making the plans to be there! Watch for Mini Clan to Rock the World in LA! ;)

*goes back to pacing, waiting for Denis to arrive home*

Jannie
Monday, August 7, 2000 11:24:55 PM
IP: 209-144-251-161.hou.port.mytelco.com

Mandolin> Thanks for the support. Right now after having vented there I'm not sure how I feel. I'm still very angry with him and don't see myself ever speaking with him again any time soon. But also, I'm not sure what my feelings are towards him right now. He may be cold hearted bastard but at the same time he is still my father. I'm actually really confused right now. The venting helped and I did not exagerate at all. But this is really complicated for me right now.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 10:01:14 PM
IP: dialin-25-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

aXvXia> <<WoAh, did i just hear someone say season 3 is coming in A FEW MONTHS???!!!!! OMG, i cant wait that long!>> Um, unless you know of a way for the TGS staff to quit our jobs and give up our real lives without becoming destitute and alone, you will have to wait. We're just handing out episodes to writers now for season three of the Main Cycle. How long "a few months" is seriously depends on writer availability and time. Just a reminder: the time that the TGS staff contributes to TGS is what little FREE TIME we have apart from work/school/family/friends/life.

Okay. Rant over. I'm sorry, but sometimes I wish people who post to complain that TGS is taking too long could see the kind of work that goes into it.

**bows head for a moment in respect for the late Sir Alec Guinness**

Greg> I'm sorry about your dad; sounds like that shrink was right on the money.

Spacebabie> Oh, I wish, I wish I could've stuck around for the auction and 3x3 Eyes... but I didn't wake up on Sunday until 10:30, and that was only due to someone with a screaming baby. Since my plane left at 1:30, I had to haul tail to get everything packed up and get to the airport on time.

Robin Sachs as Isaac Payne? I could see it... the man's played Ethan and a huge space lizard (that was him under the makeup in "Galaxy Quest"), so yeah, I think he's got the range of slimeball villains down pat. :)

Xanathar> Happy birthday!

**STARGATE SPOILERS**

For those who taped this week's episode on Showtime and haven't seen it yet, get offline and go watch "Window of Opportunity." Now. Go. After the fiasco that was Anise (unaffectionately named "Tok'ra Barbie" on the newsgroups), this episode was a relief and a lot of fun. Of all the time loop stories that have appeared since "Groundhog Day" (which is mentioned in the ep), this was one of the better ones - mainly because they dealt with it fairly realistically. Well, of course they couldn't resist a silly sequence with Jack and Teal'c taking advantage of the situation, but it was great to watch them hitting golf balls through the Stargate. ("How far away is Alarus?" "Several billion miles." "Got to be a record.")

**END SPOILERS**

All right, it's almost 10. Need to get to bed soon. Later!

Mandolin
Monday, August 7, 2000 09:48:59 PM
IP: pm35-80-210.iximd.com

Another day, another obsession.....


WoAh, did i just hear someone say season 3 is coming in A FEW MONTHS???!!!!! OMG, i cant wait that long!
If this is someone's sick idea of a joke, then ill just have to say im not rotflmfao. sorry... that's just insane, i dont want to wait for the whole season..... just the next story!!! wedding bells only ring for so long.....

aXvXiA - [murfer@iquest.net]
lost in, Ohio, USA
Monday, August 7, 2000 08:59:40 PM
IP: cc629709-a.nwhub1.in.home.com

I've also read about the late Alec Guinness being less than enthusiastic about "Star Wars" - according to what I've read, this came about largely through his having met too many over-enthusiastic obsessive fans (I can see how that could make him feel less than fond of it).

At any rate, I share in respecting the departed.

TGS VOICES - I'd thought myself of Anthony Stewart Head as the voice of Blaise (Merlin's tutor in both the Pendragon flashbacks and the Timedancer story "Twilight Falls"), although that could be considered typecasting.

GREG - Sorry to hear about your problems with your father; he definitely strikes me as a person very difficult to get along with.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, August 7, 2000 08:06:15 PM
IP: 216.87.46.176.dialup-stl.primary.net

DPH> Thanx, but my Dad and I already don't live together... my parents are divorced. And the funny thing here is that as I disowned my father, my Dad also disowned his own father 23 years ago. Funny how history repeats itself.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 06:11:27 PM
IP: dialin-25-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

GXB - Parents can be cruel. At times, my mom was the only parent I could talk to. My dad (whom I frequently refer to as idiot/boss at home) and I do not see eye to eye at all hardly. I am told that things between my dad and I will finally work out the day I move out from under his roof.
Next year, I want to go to the Gathering, if possible. Since I live out in Arkansas, I will have to fly.

2+4<-4 4-9>13 5+7<-12

2 (estimated) more weeks until I can afford to buy a new PC. I still have not decided on the OS:Windows 98/2000 or Windows NT. Has Microsoft fixed the Cancel button bug (security hole) in either Windows 98 or 2000? If they have not, darn it, I will have to get Windows NT.

**RP RELATED**
I might get around to revealing who/what is the unknown force. It just depends on timing of certain events in the entire RP world. I am almost through wrapping up with how the Speed Stars plan on dealing with our heroes.
**END RP RELATED**

*DPH spots CHAOS about to enter the room and summons a thunderbolt attack against CHAOS for work related problems.*

**BFTS RP continues while an unknown force monitors it**
*Speed Star Meeting continues where it left out*
Everyone returns from break.

Elaine Wiseman starts to speak. She clicks a mouse button and a picture of Plastique Saber shows up.

"Do not let her get near your suits Period. Always remain back to back when around her. She removed one suit completely." said Elaine.

Elaine clicked a mouse button and Rodlox's image appeared on the screen.
**END BFTS RP for now**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, August 7, 2000 06:05:36 PM
IP: max1-5.cwy.cei.net

Hmm, I got a little too emotional below. My feelings towards my father are still the same but maybe I shouldn't have posted that rant. I really needed to vent, but perhaps I should have done so elseware.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 05:52:11 PM
IP: dialin-25-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Mandolin> Thank you so much for posting those pictures. G2K looked great. It looks like you had a good time, I'm happy for you. And congrads on not losing your camera ;)

I wish I could have been there. Oh well, next year I'll be there... I have a job now so I won't have to depend on others for financial help there, especially not that cold-hearted bastard I used to call my father. Which leads me to my rant.

*** WARNING, RANT ***

I mentioned to some people through Instant Messages that the reason I could not attend the Gathering was because my father needed money for a new car, he lost the old one in a crash. This was mostly because I did not yet feel comfortable airing some feelings I've had for him for a long time yet. But this was bottling up in me for a long time, especially this weekend.

My father took my brother and I to the last Gathering, I wanted to go without him but my father did not trust my brother there alone. I knew that would lead to disaster and I was right. After the Con was over and on the way back, my father ranted and ranted on the people at the Gathering, he was embarrased to be in the same hotel as us, he was embarrased with my brother and I, and pretended he didn't know anyone there (being myself and my brother). You see, my father hates the Fantasy/Sci Fi genre and animation and does not hide it at all. And he said some terrible things about people at the Con and in the fandom whom I think of as dear friends.

Then my father decided to send me to a shrink, as some of you may remember me mentioning a few months ago. He feels I'm not normal and that my friends are bad influences, and I should find new influences on a baseball field or something. Well, the Shrink is on my side and he's met my father and thinks my father has severe problems.

And then my Dad came out and said that unless I pass my classes and get a job I cannot go to the Gathering. Well, I passed and though it took me several months to find a job, I found one... I got hired, and that was about 2 weeks before the Gathering. My Dad obviously did not want me to go, so guess what he did.

He said that I only got a job two weeks before the Gathering as a cheap way to say I had one, and that I had not intention of keeping it (which was not true at all). He called me all sorts of things, including a liar, a snake, a manipulator... and a lot of other things. He said some terrible things about my friends again, and even called Greg Weisman a wannabe cult leader who turned us all into poor excuses for human beings. I then flat out said to him, "I do not care what you think." And that was the last thing I have ever said to him, and the last time I saw him.

All of the above and many other factors far worse than this have lead me to disowning my father after nearly ten years of a relationship that was many things, but mostly abusive. My mother is on my side in this matter and thinks I am better off without him. I agree with her. I hate my father... no, I despise my father.

Wow, I feel much better after letting this all out. It really does help to vent.

*** END RANT ***

Well to all who attended the Gathering, welcome back. I was there in spirit.

Spacebabie> Yeah I think it's supposed to be Lacy Chabert. As for Craig Ferguson, I did not pick him but I think he's appropriate for the role.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 03:11:38 PM
IP: dialin-25-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*Warpmind enters, going through a complex poomse of unidentifiable tae-kwon-do rank, accompanied by the song "Eye of the Tiger". Eventually, the poomse turns into a vast clobbering, clouting and pummeling of DC & friends.*
There's for keeping me offline so much of the day.

*After hammering DC & co, Warpmind raises a glass of the finest 24-years-old Scotch whisky.*
Sir Alec Guinness. An excellent actor with a thousand faces, who has made the Final Performance. May your memory live on forever...

Jannie: Cute. Heard it before, but it's still cute. :) (Really, talking frog... I could have hours of endless fun with one of those...)

Niamhgold: Actually, the elusive fifth element was, according to the lore I've encountered, ether, or life. Not wood. Earth, Water, Air, Fire and Ether/Life. 'Course, if anyone has any better suggestions, I'm open for'em. :)

Gside: Maybe the Illuminati have excellent preservation techniques, but you forget: they've only been around since the 6th century or so. Any blieprint pieces prior to that... well, let's just say the tachyon cannon went the way of the dodo, okay? Besides, if you read the passage, Jason Evermore kept the development of the device *outside* Society circles; the inventor wasn't made a member before after he made it.

Emambu: Ah, it was good ol' AOHell? No big surprise... Developed for max. 30,000 users, as I hear it, the system undeniably has some big issues with technology... :|

By the way, I saw a movie today... a sci-fi flick titled "20 million miles to Earth", from 1957. The effects were terrible, the plot was cheesy and the acting was so-so... need I say I loved every minute of it? :) I recommend you see it. High MiST-factor, too. :)

Well, that's it for now. Just a little spoiler for my upcoming fic...
**WARNING: FANFIC SPOILER**
Elisa came rushing out to the battlements, where the others were waiting.
"Hey, whose bike is that monster in front of the elevator?"
The effect was immediate. Brooklyn's eyes went wide, and he leapt over the others and ran through the halls. Then, a loud wail of agony echoed out. As the clan and the Xanatos family followed the sound, they found Brooklyn sulking in front of the elevator, glaring at a shiny, red tricycle.
**SPOILER END**

This ought to leave a few cogs turning. :) See y'all later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 7, 2000 02:36:52 PM
IP: mp-217-237-233.daxnet.no

Okay, it took absolutely forever to upload... but all my surviving pics from G2K are up! I didn't lose my digital camera - BUT I did lose the notebook page I wrote down all the names on. So I think I messed a lot of names up and forgot a lot of people. Click my name to see the G2K photos, and please correct me on any and all mistakes!
Mandolin
Monday, August 7, 2000 02:16:10 PM
IP: pm35-80-229.iximd.com

Boy am I pooped, I survived my first con...and I won some nofty Gargoyles merchandise at the auction. Mara and I almost got into a squabble over a package that included the Buffy CD, but I decided she could have it since I had already won some stuff. ohter things I had forgoten to mention or just happened last night. Bought Christine's latest book and had her sign it, Aaron won Xanatos's money,Lexxy asked Greg on an info on Lexington's future girlfriend. Greg said "No", saw 3x3 eyes..WHOA, when it comes to stores you have got to buy it!

Stephen>>>Greg mentioned your name yesterday

XAnthar, Happy beleated Brithday and come around more often please.

GXB, interesting choices, Craig Ferguson...he plays Mr. Wick on the drew Carrey show right? Lucy Chabert..do you mean Lacy Chabert? A better idea for the Hrrison brothers should be both ben and Casy affleck, I love the other choiced for the rest of the cast and since nobody mentioned Issac Payne i was thinking Robin Sachs((aka Ethan Rayne)) just that there are some mannersims from Payne that reminds me of Ethan

A moment of Silcence for Sir Alec Guiness.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, August 7, 2000 01:14:52 PM
IP: user-37kapfr.dialup.mindspring.com

*walks back into the CR, looking slightly tanner than sdhe was before*

hey hey everyone! Greetings from sunny CA... to all those who went to the gathering- hope you had a great time. To all who went to Otakon, hope ya also had an excellent time.

GB> :::hugs::: Happy Birthday

Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 12:53:49 PM
IP: spider-wg082.proxy.aol.com

***Kyryn and Okami march in dressed in full WWII British military field outfits. They both perform a full rifle drill and then fire off a salute. Okami leaves and Kyryn turns to talk to the CR.***

R.I.P. Sir Alec Guiness

Okami and I best remember him for his role in The Bridge on the River Kwai.

Happy birthday to Robby, Green Baron, and Xanathar!

Stephen> We will watch for your posts. Safe Journey!

Later All!

****Kyryn turns smartly and marches out****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, August 7, 2000 12:09:50 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

A few things.

The funniest thing about Alec Guiness and Star Wars? Even though it's what we all remember him for, he HATED the movie. Hated his involvement in the project altogether. Always got terribly upset when a fanboy would approach him and ask him to do something silly like sign a photo "Obi-Wan Kenobi". I'm sad to see him go, I just find it somewhat amusing when we all, myself included, think "Damn, Obi-Wan's dead!" when in fact he didn't like the movie himself.

Emambu: Blair Witch 2 should be coming out by Halloween. I think it's going to be a mix of documentary / live action. I believe the plot is that a group of teenagers who are obsessed with the story go into the woods in search of any trace of the original 3 filmmakers. They've already begun the build-up and hype for the sequel: Showtime has begun showing a "new" Blair Witch documentary called "The Burkettsville Seven", which is about the 7 children that recluse Rusty Parr murdered in the BWP mythology.

About the protests in Philly....okay, I'm going to take a pretty unpopular point of view. One that many will probably find disturbing.
Some of the more extreme protesters? I wouldn't have minded if the police took a billy club and smacked their ass around a bit.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not upset by their message. If they have one....most of those protesters to me just looked like disenfranchised college kids with nothing better to do during their summer vacation. They can protest all they want. But when they start screwing with the cops, and then they get their asses beat, I don't cry any tears for them. I don't really feel any sympathy when they start crying and going "Why did the bad policeman hit me?" when a second ago they threw a bottle (or a rock, or something else with the intention of doing bodily harm) at the cop in question. I don't care if you protest, but the minute you start giving the cops sh!t, you're asking for a kick in the ass. The constitutional right to protest doesn't cover you for assaulting police officers. And I saw some of that going on. People hitting cops, or throwing things at cops, and then when the cops retaliate and arrest their disenfranchised hineys, they scream police brutality. And I think to myself.....Asshole! You just threw a punch at a cop! What the hell did you expect? Anybody with half a brain cell knows better than to hand feed a tiger ground beef, right? Then why would you ever want to try and start some sh!t with a cop?
Think about it this way. Picture yourself as a cop. If you're a cop in Philly, you just wanna make it through the day without getting shot at. At the end of the week, collect that *lean* paycheck they give you. Now, instead of making your daily rounds, you got crowd detail. You suddenly have to deal with hundreds of sweaty, smelly, angry-at-the-world college kids who seem to believe you're really part of the "evil establishment" and not just a regular joe who wants to kick off work, go home, have a beer and watch Regis Philbin on "Millionaire". I have friends in law enforcement, and they just HATE crowd detail. Absolutely LOATHE it. Cause with protests like this one, you just have dozens of--pardon my language, IDIOTS--who just want to start trouble. Not all of them. Some of them are there for a genuine cause or reason. But still, you have people there who just want to start trouble. I'm not advocating the cops just smack people around....but if the protesters start that crap, then I have no problem with the cops defending themselves.

Christ. 30 plus years ago we had great men like MLK Jr. stage "peaceful" protests. They changed the country without making a single fist. Now we got groups of idiots who want nothing more than to make a fist and bring it down on the cops. Like the Philly PD needs that grief.

Some of the same protesters have already said they'll be at the Democratic convention too. I feel for the Democrats--and most specifically, I feel for the police officers there.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 11:52:54 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Emambu> Here is the TGS Cast list. Some of these are my own personal picks, others were done by other staff members. A lot of these we didn't agree on, so this isn't official or anything... a couple are but most are not. Hope you enjoy it anyway.

MADOC MORFRYN/NICHOLAS MADDOX: Tony Jay
QUEEN MAEVE/MAVIS O'CONNOR: Bernadette Peters
GARLON: Laurence Bain
MR. DUVAL: Patrick Stewart
ASRIAL: Jennifer Hale
THERSITES: Eric Idle
AGAMEMNON: Leo McKern
CAVALL, NUDNIK, ARGUS, GARM: Frank Welker
GRAEME: Jeff Bennet
ARIANA: Lucy Chabert
ROLAND: Bruce Boxleitner
ATALANTA: Claudia Christian
DR. GOLDBLUM: Walter Koenig
JOANNA WALKER: Gates McFadden
SATA: Mira Furlan
APEP: Robbie Benson
LOKI LAUYFEYSON: Mark Hamil
MORGANA LA FAY: Helen Mirren
SARA JASPER: Jodi Bensen
ELAINE LAKE DUVAL: Tracey Scoggins
NORMAN DENT: Richard Moll
LIZ: Sara Michelle Gellar
DARIEN MONTROSE: Craig Ferguson
HUIZILOPOCHTLI: Kevin Smith
COLIN MARTER: Sam Neil
THE MORRIGAN: Cristina Ricci
WILLIAM POWEL: John Neville
RANGDA: Miranda Richardson
UMBRIEL STRIJKEN: Lorenzo Lamas
TOMMY KIMURA: Jet Li
LOBO: Jerry Doyle
THE PENTAGON GENERAL (Reunions): Tommy Lee Jones
ANDREA CALHOUN: Jennifer Aniston
CHAR: Eliza Dushku
HARTHOTH: Christopher Judge
GEORGE CLARENCE HARRISON: David Boreandaz
RICHARD HARRISON: Ben Affleck
ZED: Seth Green
RAEL: James Marsters
RITA: Juliet Landau
CANDY: Peri Gilpin
AVALLACH: Michael Ansara
DANU: Carrie Dobro
QUINN RAMSEY: Julia Louis Dreyfuss
GILES: William B. Davis
NIMUE: Gwyneth Paltrow
ISFET: Hudson Leick
SEKHMET: Diane Muldar
PHOBOS: Michael Bell
DEIMOS: Alexander Siddig
CAMAZOTZ: Chris Latta
NICOLE ST' JOHN: Dana Delaney
JERRY PEARSON: Himself

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 11:50:50 AM
IP: dialin-25-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Gside (re: Anchient History for Engineers)> Actualy, I was thinking more in line with computer engineers, which would place anchient history at about 15- 25 years ago (just as the 'Pun- che car- t' age ended).

Speaking of the fifth elephant, er I mean, the five elements, I don't remember too much about the five elements as Niamhgold mentiond (used in such things as alchemy, smell those murcury fumes!), but I think I know where Emambu got the idea of plasma. The five states of matter are: solid, liquid, gaseous, and plasma (Sider Robinson did a great work dealing with plasmoid life- forms), but these are not elements. They are represented by the elements of: earth water, air, and fire respectivly.
Niamhgold had mentioned the metaphysical world and air, but I think that air is represented there by a hypothetical element called ether.

Au revoir

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, August 7, 2000 11:11:07 AM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

*Xanathar steps out of the shadows*

Hi all!,long time no see! :)

Thank-you Katara,Doug,Gside and Emambu for the birthday wishes and an extra special Thank-you to Sorow for remembering(and emailing me regularly.:) )and to Fleur for being the truly special friend that she is. *Hugs both*

I've gotta get going,take care.

Xanathar

P.S. happy birthday Robby,Green Baron and anybody else I may have missed

*Slinks back into the shadows*

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Monday, August 7, 2000 07:37:39 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

A farewell for Sir Alec Guinness, one of the greatest actors of this century. Last month Gassman has left us, and now Sir Alec...
I loved many of his characters, but the one I love the most was the King in the movie "Cromwell"...
May the Force be with you, Sir Alec.

Emambu:> Trust me, Siena is a beautiful city...one of those I go and visit everytime I have a few free days. So, you visited the Galleria degli Uffizi, isn't it? One of my loved places...and the square of the Duomo is beautiful as well, although there are others in other cities that are, as far as I'm concerned, even more imposing... (ever been in Piazza del Plebiscito, in Naples?)
Sorry to know about your work troubles...it reminds me of something I've read once: The three hints to understand that you'd be better seeking another job for yourself...
1) Returning from vacation, you find out that your office has been turned in a take-away pizza-shop...
2) Looking out of the window, you see the boss' secretaries walking the streets...
3) Entering the bathroom, you find one of the managers hanging from the chandelier...

Later...

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Monday, August 7, 2000 07:18:27 AM
IP: h255-20-32.mi2.albacom.net

*Emambu stealthily sneaks in, grabs the nearest blunt object (a lead pipe), and proceeds to bash in Mr. JRSU's head with it. After several good whacks, Ememabu drops the pipe and turns his full attention to the CR, leaving JRSU twitching on the floor.*

Hey gang! I hope everyone here (especially those who attended G2K) had a great weekend. Sorry about the mess, but I called work after my flight landed and it turns out my store is being turned into a McDonalds. I thank you, Doug, for bringing Mr. JRSU in when you did, so I could properly repay him. :) Anyway, I had a good time in Orlando, and I got some good stories out of the Convention, but I'll get into that later. Right now...

<a moment of silence for Sir Alec Guiness>


Happy belated birthdays to both Robby and Green Baron. I hope it was memorable for you both.

Also, a happy birthday to Xanathar. May you be showered in gifts on your special day. :)

Rodlox: Just thought I'd inquire as to how your MIB story is progressing. Remember, if you have any questions, or want a second opinion, I'm only an e-mail click away.

Sarge Abernathy: I wish I could say that I remember you but I can't. Still, I CAN welcome you back to the CR (even if I'm a little late for a simple gesture such as that). I hope you'll stick around so that some of the newer-folk can get to know you a little better.

Doug: I can see why you think Macbeth has a more critical role in "Comatose" but I'm still sticking with my original thought. :) It hardly seems to make a difference for me anyway. The impression I got from your e-mail was that we agreed on so many other elements in the story that it makes this a moot point. I apologize for making you wait longer for comments on NotS part 1. I didn't get any work done this weekend, much to the chagrin of my webmaster. :) BTW, cool poem. Makes me want to post a few of my friends'.

Wilek: Good to hear from you. I hope you had fun on your vacation.

Stephen: Good luck with everything. I hope to hear from you soon. I also hope you received those comments that I sent on your story "Tenkiller." I'll be sure to check out your website as soon as catch a few hours of sleep.

Warpmind: Yeah, it turns out that it was AOL all along (what a shock). Apparently, it has a hard time loading from members.xoom.com. I'm currently using another machine right now, and your site loads fine. *sighs* Oh well. BTW, I'll read your story and post comments but for right now, I need some rest.

Niamhgold: SATs... don't even get me started on them. :) oh, and I think I read somewhere that the five elements were earth, fire, wind, water, and plasma. Of course, that fifth one could easily be a misconception on my part. After all, I can't even remember where I heard it from.

Shadowrider: Parma was another city that I never got to see while I was in Italy. Actually, the city I REALLY wanted to visit but never got the chance to was Sienna. I read nothing but good things about it, but all I managed to see was a fleeting glimpse of it from the train window. Fortunately, I got to see Florence. I stayed in a terrible hotel, but it was well worth it, espcially after going in the Uffizi (sp) and El Duomo.

Sevarius Jr: I've heard rumors about a Blair Witch 2 coming out in November. You seem to be a man in the know, so I was wondrering if you had any information on it. I heard this a while ago so it may no longer be a rumor, or it may have been abandoned.

Brooklyn: I hope you're feeling better. I found a poem that kind of reminds me of Castaway. I'll send it to you as soon as I type it. Also, despite the fact that I am anxious for Part three of your series, your health is more important (and I think I can say with confidence that the rest of the CR will stand behind me on that statement) to me. Go easy for a little while, get in a couple good days of stone sleep, and before you know it you'll back to full health (if you're not already there).

Jannie: I'm glad to hear that your recovery is going well. I'll contine to keep you in my thoughts until you're completely you're back up to full strength. I liked the joke too, even if it was aimed at us software engineers. :)

Gunkack Valentine: Good to hear from you again. I remember you briefly, but you disappeared right around the time I started posting on this forum. Ah well, good to have you back.

Pendragon: Nice teasers. I eagerly anticipate the start of the new season. It sounds like it's going to be a good one.

Greg Bishansky: Just of curiosity, did you ever post that TGS cast list? I'd be interested in seeing who you guys picked for some of the roles.

G2K'ers: To all those who are returning from the Gathering... I hope you had a great time and brought back a lot of stories to tell (and pictures to show). :)

Convention: Well, my little ruse worked although not every plan can be 100% successful. Wednesday afternoon there were some protesters that got into a tangle with police on Market street. I was down there, trying to get opinions from both sides when a nearby protester carrying a metal sign (don't ask me why the sign was metal) was shoved by a policeman. He lost his gripe on the poster, and the edge came down right across the palm of my left hand, neatly slicing a chunk of my skin off. A couple stitches later, I was fine and back out on the streets. It was kind of funny expaining this to my cousin while I was down in Orlando for the weekend. Anyway, that's my little warstory. :)

The rest of the convention was great though. I got some pretty cool views from both sides. Some of the protesters seemed to have general concerns about their own welfare. These are the ones who are going to end up getting hurt (financially) if the Republicans win the election. A few were left-wing extremists who were simply protesting the fact the convention was being held in Philadelphia. Then there was Old Jim (as he liked to be called). He was protesting, his words BTW, "The Republican manifesto, and their evil coporate views." I got some nice info from various police officers too. Most saw the protesters as simple trouble-makers, but a few actually saw them as terrorists. I won't post the names of the cops here for the sake of anonymity, but it was interesting to see a wide range of views on both sides of the battle. I even ran into Police Chief John Timminey (sp) but I couldn't reach him in time for any comments. Too bad, because he was one person who I was really looking foward to talkting to. BTW, Zath, I ran into a girl who kind of fit the description you gave me. Her name was Melanie. She was tall, a little lanky, and had her hair dyed in red and green swirls. I doubt seriously if it's the one you were thinking of, but it can't hurt to ask

Orlando: Although, I was very busy those four days down there (today included), they're really isn't much to talk about (at least nothing that you would be interested in, assuming you're even interested now) :). I drove by the Ramada Inn that everyone was staying at this morning and I think I saw a few people milling around outside. However, I was on my way to have brunch with a friend of my cousin, so I didn't have time to get out and introduce myself. Saturday I had lunch with some representitives from Disney who were good friends with my cousin. I wish I tell you that I managed to pry some secrets out of them, or that I manipulated them into bringing back certain shows... but alas I cannot. Fortunately, they were both very nice people and I don't regret meeting them.

Well, that's all for now. I apologize for any typos but it's 3:15 in the morning here, and I really need to get some sleep (have I mentioned that yet?). Take care,


---Emambu

Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Monday, August 7, 2000 03:22:04 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

Warpmind> <<I doubt a piece from the Second Dynasty Egypt would be easy to make to fit with a piece from, say, the 19th century>>: I think you are doubting the preservation processes known by the Illuminati. Plus they prabably have made many copies.

Jannie> Yes, a talking frog is very cool. Have you heard the one about the accountant, artist, and engineer giving their preferences between a wife and a mistress?

SRS JR.> May the road rise to meet your feet. Or is that a bad ting to say before a flight? Though I am rather honored by my inclusion in you list, as I have been here for less than a year.

Cyborg> <<a time you may have learned about in your class 'Anchient History for Engineers'>>: You mean back when they had engineers stand under the bridges they designed when it held its first load? Nice story, though.

Niamhgold> <<the five elements of the physical world are earth, water, fire, metal, and wood>>: Been reading Daigakusei no Ranma (hey, spelled it right on the first try)? No wait, they have air instead of earth. "Air moves the waves; waves douse the flames; flame melts metal; metal cuts the tree; tree bends in the wind without breaking." Though I prefer the Siken Densetsu elements: Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Light, Darkness, Nature, Disorder.
As a side note, does anyone know about how often Digital Knight Communications (the Dn* people) udate?

Happy birthday Xanathar.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, August 7, 2000 03:11:03 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

<Krayat dragon calls echo throughout the CR as a hooded figure in a brown robe walks in making them. A bouncer asks to see his CR identification, but the figure waves him off with a gesture and a few words. Then DC rushes over to the figure and shoots him with a blaster, causing the figure to laugh and say, "Now you've made me more powerful than you can imagine." DC frowns, then gasps as the figure collapses into a pile of old robes and Doug, translucent and glowing blue rises up from them and cuts DC's arm off with a lightsaber. He runs away screaming. Doug steps away from the pile of robes and bows his head in silence.>
For Sir Alec Guiness, a truly great actor who I'm sure will be remembered for many other great roles as well as the one for which he is thought of most. <silence for long moment>

Happy Birthday to Xanathar! :)

Shadowrider: Glad you enjoyed the poem. I thought of Meryt too, in every line but "green gloves on her hands."

More later.

Doug
Monday, August 7, 2000 01:39:01 AM
IP: pool-209-138-201-231-dlls.grid.net

A moment of silence for Sir Alec Guiness. A truly great actor, and Jedi Knight.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 7, 2000 12:09:43 AM
IP: dialin-636-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but....well.....

Obi Wan is dead.....

That's the REAL Obi-Wan, mind you. Not the good-looking Scottish Gen-Xer Lucas stuck in there. May you rest in peace, Sir Guinness.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, August 6, 2000 11:57:43 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

*Katara strolls into the CR, scratching at sevearal welts on her leg* Damn mosquitos! *Canyon growls and nips at her paw* Okay, okay. I'll stop scratching! Sheesh!

Hi everyone! Looks as if it's been a pretty quiet weekend here, since a good portion of the CR dwellers are off in Orlando.

Robby > <CR wipe> LOL! is just that I'm not used to the room wiping while I'm still reading it. Normally it's already been wiped by time I get to it. :-)

Jannie > _L-O-V-E-D_ the frog joke hun!

Happy Birthday to Xanthar. A sad farewell (for now) to Stephen.

*fades out of the CR in search of some calomine lotion, Canyon growling at her with each scratch she makes*

Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Sunday, August 6, 2000 11:26:35 PM
IP: ac836274.ipt.aol.com

Today is Xanathar's birthday, and even though he doesn't post very often, I would like to wish him a happy birthday on behalf of the CR. HAPPY BIRTHDAY XANATHAR!

Robby & GB> I hope you had a birthday to remember!

SOROW
Sunday, August 6, 2000 10:57:52 PM
IP: dll2a010-0590.splitrock.net

Ach...sorry I've been gone so long...you won't believe how busy we go. Since I work for the Housing Dept. we have all these confrences, National Marriage Encounter, Latter Day Saints 13-17 year olds confrence......this has been my last two week's focus. Sorry, not to clear...my bad. Anyway, how's it all going here? I've got two more weeks of work left, then it's back to the books. Couple things.

RP- It's gonna be a little while. If anyone has started up the 10 Saga, let me know through my E-mail.

Robby- Yo' da man about Anime, so I need your help once more. I've been listening to a lot of Tenchi Music lately, and well, there is this one song that eludes my grasps. I don't know the name of the song, but I can describe where in the series you can find it. First off, it's a slow peaceful song that can be found at the beginning or the episode, after the opening credits. The best example is the First episode of Tenchi Universe, where they show some cherry trees, the temple Tenchi's Grandfather uses, and then zooms in on Tenchi walking down the road, and suddenly sees Ryo-ohki, but it ends up being a squirrel. That's when the music ends. It's a peaceful little tune that I'd like to know the name of.

Help me Robby, you're my only hope.

*Sorry for the Princess Leia bit.*

Let's see...don't know much else. Survivor wise...Poor Gervase...I feel bad he had to go. I liked him. Anyway, that's it from me. Talk to you all later.

Gasper - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Sunday, August 6, 2000 08:40:42 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4

<Shadowrider reenters for a moment>

Niamhgold:> Lawyers: well, you can't deny that there are a little more jokes about lawyers than about engineers...;)...at least as far as I know...

Elements: Hmmm...I always thought that the elements in this universe are two: dirt, and everything else...;)

<Runs out under a rain of rotten fruit and worser things...>

See you all!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, August 6, 2000 07:09:44 PM
IP: h213-46-39.mi2.albacom.net

** Niamgold enters **

Not that much to say tonight, since there isn't that much feul for discussion...heh, not that I'm complaining :) At least Nikhil's elicited some juicy upcoming Pendragon info!

Jannie: Good to see you up and peppy! :) Great joke! (The frog would have to turn into a prince, however, for it to work with me...but even then I'd still have to take the talking frog. You can just make _so_ much $ that way!)

** Niamhgold self-reminds herself of that episode of Looney Tunes where the guy gets a talking frog, but it will *only* talk to him and no one else **

Shadowrider: Lawyer, eh? Don't worry, I got the joke!

Miscellaneous: I remember, a couple weeks ago, that the CR had a discussion about the 4/5 elements of the universe. Everyone thought there was five, but we could only come up with four (unless someone came up with five and I just didn't see it :). Now I _do_ know: the five elements of the physical world are earth, water, fire, metal, and wood.

It figures air wouldn't be included in all that...is it supposed to be one of the elements that makes up the metaphysical world?

That's all for now!

Niamhgold
Sunday, August 6, 2000 06:43:32 PM
IP: lac-flex112.ncia.net

Well, since Greg Bishansky asked me, I'll include a few teasers for "Pendragon" (although I'm deliberately not revealing any of the big stuff):

1. The continuation of the "Connection" arc begun in "Seeds of Change".

2. A sort of "Dark Ages/Pendragon" crossover episode (well, not exactly a crossover, but rather a case of elements from the "Dark Ages" period having serious ramifications in present-day Britain for Arthur and Co.)

3. Return appearances from Molly/the Banshee, Lucius Adrians, the Caledonian clan, Duval, Elaine, Jennifer Camford, and Corbie/the Morrigan.

4. Some noteworthy character development for Brianna.

And that's all that I'm going to reveal for now.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, August 6, 2000 06:32:18 PM
IP: 216.87.46.180.dialup-stl.primary.net

Another week goes by, and so does our life...

Doug:> A very touching poem...and it does remind me of Timedancer...not so much of Sata, as you probably thought, but of Meryt...

Gunjack:> <stops the drink cart and takes a beer> Thank you, pal...
Welcome back! I was just wondering where was you...
Glad you had a good vacation, too...seems you had a wide bit of fun :)
<<24 hours on Greyhound'll leave you wondering which way is up. >> Really? Try ten hours of bike, then you'll tell me...;)
My summer? Not so bad up to now, if you want to know about my vacation, look at last week's Room...;)

Jannie:> Hmmm...another joke about Engineers...<grins>...if I will ever reborn, maybe I'll be better to choose another field...something less ill-treated...lawyer, for example...
<laughs> I'm kidding...very good joke, really. Furthermore, it is one of those jokes that can be translated without losing their spirit, so I hope you'll allow me to use it...:)

Stephen:> Good luck, pal. Hope to hear of you soon. :(

Good night, everyone.

Ciao!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, August 6, 2000 06:24:07 PM
IP: h213-18-117.mi2.albacom.net

Nikhil> Season 3 of "Gargoyles" is being written as I speak. It will premere some time in the next few months. No date has been announced yet.

"Pendragon" on the other hand should be starting within the next two weeks. And it will be well worth the wait... having read the new season of "Pendragon" already, I can honestly say that this will be a terrific season, the best one yet. Todd, you want to give some teasers?

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 6, 2000 06:04:17 PM
IP: dialin-636-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

When is the new season going to start?
Nikhil - [NJoshi2000@yahoo.com]
Fullerton, CA, USA
Sunday, August 6, 2000 05:00:53 PM
IP: 1cust134.tnt2.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net

Lawrence> I'm glad that comming out to your family is turning out not to be as hard as you thought it would be.

Welcome back, Gunjack. Sounds like you had a great time. *sigh* I wish I had more vacations like that.

Robby>"I've been wiping the CR late Saturday night/very early Sunday morning for over a month now, and you'r still not used to it?" I thought you had changed the time to keep us off balance.

Gside (re: Server hangup)>I used to get those alot, about ten years ago or so. That was durring a time you may have learned about in your class 'Anchient History for Engineers' called 'Die-L up' internet, or something like that. Some maitenence guy has probably not yet gorren aroung to changing the message yet. According to a hospital's voice box, it is still the weekend of June 24 because of that same problem.
***Warning: Flashback***
On a slightly more serious note, I miss those days of Dial-up. My Daddy brought me home a map of the world on it back then that had marked on it the numbers of all the computers I liked to visit, where they were in the world. I miss that map. It was a fun time. I was the only kid in the area that had the internet, by the time everyone else caught up with us, I was bored with the thing.
***End Flashback***

Jannie (re: talking frog joke)> *LoL*



Keep well, Stephen.

Cyborg - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Sunday, August 6, 2000 03:33:42 PM
IP: modemcable165.125-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net

[a familiar figure in a big white hat ambles into the CR, with a pair of suitcases and a briefcase alongside him...]

Well, considering this might be my last post for a while, thought to better make it special...

Today, my net access officially goes down, the last of my stuff has been packed into boxes for shipping, and all of my bags are packed... it's hard to believe I'm leaving Spokane in two days, and the two people that I've loved and lived with for two years. (sighs) Well, at least we are staying friends... that's more than what usually happens in some relationships.

By the time I've left a lot of people will either be returning from the Gathering in Orlando or already back... Hope you all had a good time, and I can't wait to see the pictures and reports when I finally get back online.

To everyone in the CR, let me say "thanks" for all the support and encouragement you've given to me and Andrea during the past few weeks... going through a breakup isn't easy, but knowing that there are people to support you makes things a little bit easier to bear. I consider a lot of you my extended "family", so I hope to see you all when I'm finally settled in in Florida.

One last thing before I close; I don't know what exactly is in store for me in the near future... but, whatever happens, you all have been a really great bunch of friends, and I'll never forget that. Christine, Spike, Crzy, Doug&Kit, GB, G-side, Niahmgold, Todd, and all of ya'll... stay safe, and, to quote and old Irish saying:

"May you be a half hour into Heaven, Before the Devil knows your dead."

[Shuffles towards the door with his bags, taking one last look before leaving to say:]

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Spokane, WA, USA
Sunday, August 6, 2000 02:52:10 PM
IP: m136.ieway.com

a little humor to start the week: ;)

A man was crossing a road one day when a frog
called out to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn
into a beautiful princess." He bent over, picked up the
frog, and put it in his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me
and turn me back into a beautiful princess, I will be
your loving companion for an entire week." The man took
the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it, and returned
it to his pocket.

The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn
me back into a princess, I'll stay with you for a
year and do ANYTHING you want."

Again the man took the frog out, smiled at it, and
put it back into his pocket.

Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've
told you I'm a beautiful princess, that I'll stay with
you for a year and do anything you want. Why won't you
kiss me?"

The man said, "Look, I'm a Software Engineer. I
don't
have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog is
cool."

*giggles* ok, I now return you back to the regularly scheduled depressing week.

Jannie
Sunday, August 6, 2000 09:57:12 AM
IP: 209-144-251-63.hou.port.mytelco.com

*Warpmind enters and boggles.*
By my estimates, 10th!

Not much to comment on...

Gside: I doubt the blueprints will be recovered... they were torn apart and sent piece-by-piece through time. They could wind up anytime. And I doubt a piece from the Second Dynasty Egypt would be easy to make to fit with a piece from, say, the 19th century... capisce? :)

Gotta run. Adios.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, August 6, 2000 05:24:39 AM
IP: mp-217-200-63.daxnet.no

You know, I have never seen an error message in my browser that said "Server hangup" before today.

Warpmind> <<Lucifer? Um... close, but not quite>>: Oops. My bad. though can you blame me? It's the story right before the first seal.
Also, I read your latest. Interesting, and it would have been fun to see him rediscover his blueprints.

DPH> Adding the same three lines to each of your equations will make themm work out to be true.

Welcome back Gunjack.

Robby> <<I've been wiping the CR late Saturday night/very early Sunday morning for over a month now, and you're still not used to it?>>: Well, most people are at the Gathering, and Gunjack can be excused for being gone a good ong while. wveryone else seems to be handling it well.

Let's see... Tomorrow (actually, today) is Sunday. I usually do something Sundays. That's right, an mp3. Seems like I haven't done any Who. Shame, they do some good stuff, and you can get a good routine going with then and all the Band I've done. To rectify that, I give you Pinball Wizard by The Who

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, August 6, 2000 02:44:24 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Oh come on people, I've been wiping the CR late Saturday night/very early Sunday morning for over a month now, and you're still not used to it? Huh...
Robby
Sunday, August 6, 2000 02:31:58 AM
IP: spider-tp042.proxy.aol.com

I guess I'm eighth.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, August 6, 2000 02:10:52 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-66-47.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Oopps! guess I made 4th (or 3rd, depending on how you look at Gunjack's posts. =]

TaleWeaver > RE Starship Troopers: One of the reasons that story line was left dangling like a bad participle was because of the abrupt end of production of the show. There are still 5 episodes awaiting production. (or maybe it was release. my mind is a bit fuzzy on the facts) There is an online petition that you can go sign, in hopes of having Sony and BKN at least bring back the final eps, as well as request video/DVD releases of 1st season; action figuires; or another season of the show. <www.roughneckchronicles.com> Really great site for archives, episode reviews, and several chat forums.

Jannie > Glad to hear that you are recovering, slowly but surely. We all share in your pain and frustration of having all those well-laid plans blown right out of the water.

Doug > Actually he did come down from Oxnard last night and worked on it today. He replaced the hoses, but still looks like the pump has to be replaced. At least the leak isn't nearly as bad as before, and I can at least drive to work this week. Since he's got duty tomorrow, I didn't expect him to come down this weekend. Thought I'd have to wait till next week. Thanks for wishing us peace. Actually we are sort of abnormal when it comes to divorced relationships. We basically get along pretty well with each other. In fact, better now than when we were married. We have a better divorce that we ever did a marriage. LOL

SJ > Nightman...did you know that it was actually filmed here in San Diego. Funny, considering it was supposed to take place in San Francisco. LOL

Spacebabie > Thanks for updating us about G2K. Great to know everyone it having a great time.

HAPPY B-DAY TO ROBBY AND GREEN BARRON!!! *tosses confetti in the air and blows on a party blower.* BD cake can be had once everyone returns from FL.

*WHEW* Finally done catching up with last week's posts. I can't wait for everyone to get back and start sharing their stories about this weekend. I'm guessing that we should start getting the first juicy bits of news in at least 48 hours. Only 10-12 months to go for G'01 in LA! =]

Katara
San Diego
Sunday, August 6, 2000 02:09:33 AM
IP: ac81a3ab.ipt.aol.com

Well, I’m back in TX now, but things are majorly hectic here as I scramble around trying to get ready to go back to school, so I probably won’t be able to make a "real" post until I’m back at school in California. I just thought I’d stop by and let everyone know. Bye for now.
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:49:52 AM
IP: ns13-03.viptx.net

Gunjack: At a great writing site- click my name. <grins> And welcome back!

Top Something!!

Doug
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:49:27 AM
IP: pool-209-138-201-73-dlls.grid.net

4th or 5th, depending on whether Robby counts.
Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:40:05 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

3rd!!!
Lawrence - [craft_celtic@yahoo,com]
Ohio
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:36:26 AM
IP: chil-ras2-1-cs-19.dial.bright.net

2nd!!!!!

Oh you *%$%&^&(**(.. wiped the CR right when I was in the middle of FINALLY catching up on all of last weeks posts too! *ggrrrrrrrrr* I could be mad, but I won't. Will teach me not to put it off so long next time! Replies to come later. ;-)

Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:33:38 AM
IP: ac81a3ab.ipt.aol.com

Heh... And I was just cursing for posting so close to the wipe... :D
Gunjack Valentine
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:33:25 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.235.162.dallas1.level3.net

*A well-armed gent in a suit kicks in the CR door, feeds a handfull of quarters into the jukebox, and grabs his Comfy Chair (tm)*

Howdy do, people! The 'Jack is BACK!
D'ja miss me? ;D
Just got back from eight weeks on the road, and I managed to do just about everything legally possible... Camping in the woods, playing in waterfalls, shooting assault rifles, attending college, recreating the passover, learning RPGs, Losing all my clothes, starving, debating religion, and trying to GM after staying up all night reading Wolverine...
So, how was YOUR summer? ;D
I got back yesterday, but I was too fried to post... 24 hours on Greyhound'll leave you wondering which way is up.
*Quick glance at the latest posts, and a grab at the latest song*
Doug><<This remind anyone else of Timedancer? :) Just wondering.>> No kiddin', 'mano! Where'd you find it?

Shadowrider><<Well, I have six weeks before I have to leave again, so I'll be around for a while.>> So lemme get this straight; I leave, you leave, and we both get back at about the same time?!? :) Someone upstairs likes me! *Kicks the drink cart toward SR* And here I thought it'd get lonely during the Gathering...

*Glances at watch*

Okay, so my brain goes into cooling shutoff... thirty minutes ago. Hm. That explains the post... ;D
Real post tomorrow, peeps...

"Put that in your star and wish upon it!"
-Monty, skinless prophet

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:32:10 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.235.162.dallas1.level3.net

Well, in theory this should be a fairly slow race for top ten...

In any event, my cousin Bryan is coming to San Antonio in about 10 hours, so if I'm quiet all week, its cause I'm spending time with my cous!

Robby
Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:28:33 AM
IP: spider-tj083.proxy.aol.com