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Greetings, fellow sentients.

I have noticed that many people seem ot enjoy the art of the RP. I (and possibly other newbies to this room) am both not involved in any and do not understand the concept/protocol behind starting one. Could one of you wise sentients kindly give me (as well as any who wise to know but wish not to ask) this information?

Also, would any said newbies be interseted in starting an RP once said info is obtained?

Happiness to all!
--Daphne
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith - [l.grow_yophilly@excite.com]
Saturday, August 19, 2000 09:38:36 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.209.19.philadelphia1.level3.net

hmm. Guys, I have a hard question:

What would be the best route to travel from Little Rock, Arkansas to Los Angeles, California for G2001? I actually live in Conway, Arkansas.

I have good news: I doubled the amount of money I pay for life insurance and get 5 times the amount for when I die.

PC buying - dang, I forgot to count religious giving and gasoline expense for figuring out when I can afford the new PC. I have $2300 saved for buying a new PC so far.

*DPH tries to shift into Weekend mode but can not because of working this weekend.*
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, August 19, 2000 09:24:59 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

Gside- That is the problem..it got ERASED *L*

Doug- *g* GREAT! More ppls!
Lexy
Saturday, August 19, 2000 08:55:13 PM
IP: spider-tm051.proxy.aol.com

Jannie- AWESOME!! That sounds like so much fun!! Hope you make it!

Aaron- *poutspoutspoutspoutspouts* AND I WAS there for most of that ep. But ..I had to leave for Kaioto..*sighs* *poutspoutspouts*
Lexy
Saturday, August 19, 2000 08:52:43 PM
IP: spider-tm051.proxy.aol.com

*Archwolf moves in stiffly*
Hey all, really really quick post.

Mec>Got it. Proofed it once already, but didn't save the changes *smacks forehead*. About your troubles> I hope things sort themselves out. I think what katara says is correct, if you have to decide how you love her, it is probably just as friends. well, thats my take on it.

more later.
out

Archwolf
Saturday, August 19, 2000 07:33:01 PM
IP: pumpkin-c-12.mcmurray.nb.net

Hi all. Thanks to all those who wished me a happy birthday. It was fun, had a sushi dinner and my brother got me a Japanese Transformer named Gigatron.

Doug> Sorry to hear about those people at your job, and I thought my job was tough.

Oh well. Next episode of "Pendragon" is going to be great people. I look forward to your comments.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 19, 2000 07:07:29 PM
IP: dialin-957-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Here again for some happier things...

Niamhgold:> << If anyone's interested in seeing two of the pieces I did--don't worry, I don't *expect* anyone to be ;)--, just ask...>> I hope I'm not late - of course I'm interested...you should not need even to ask. I'd be really glad in seeing your works, I had already a chance to see your talent.

Archwolf:> Injuries: I wish you a good recovery. If I understood well what happened...well, I did something similar in a Taekwon-do tournament sometime ago, and the result was more or less the same (although I was luckier - I had just a rib cracked). Be sure I never did the same mistake again...it was one of those lessons yu never forget...

Winterwolf:> Diablo II: I tried the Holy Freeze aura (I couldn't before, it is availabile starting from 18 th level), seems effective indeed...you was right. You know, I noticed that even between my friends here there's a tendency to use sorceress/necromancer instead of paladin/barbarian. A pity...I hoped to find someone to discuss the never-too-discussed topic "Is it better single-handed weapon and shield, or two-handed weapon and no shield?" (I personally prefer two-handed weapons...)...oh, well.
Oh, about that idea of the party in the chat room (and thank you again for thinking about it...you are a friend...:), I think the 14-15th of September could be OK for me, and for the time...well, starting from 23 PM Italian Time (17 PM in New York, I think) to the 3AM (21 PM in N.Y.) is all right...I could change it if anyone has problem, but these are the best times for me.

Ana:> Welcome here! Sorry for being a bit late. I hope you'll enjoy here. :)

Gside:> I heard about the expansion for Diablo II...I'd like to try the Assassin...;)

Doug:> Well, I thank you for your words about our cops. They deserve them, I assure you, for they have paid and are still paying a heavy tribute in their war against the Mafia and the other organizations. I also hope they'll bust those bastards who sold parts of my country for money...some of them have already paid, but there are still many free.
Hmm...I ranted a bit, isn't it? I'm sorry.

Fire Storm:> Hmmm...I don't know American TV in detail...but, if they produced things like "Buffy", "X-Files", "Star Trek" and so on...well, there's for sure something good. About MTV in Italy...well, before they started broadcasting here, in Italy there was not a music-dedicated channel...so a lot of young people started watching it. On the other side, here there were a lot of shows similar to those you mentioned (although differently made), so when MTV started with "Road Rules", a lot of people said "Oh, yawn, another show..." and turned off...
Don't worry, except for some exceptions Italian TV sucks as well...

Nothing more. Good night to everyone.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Saturday, August 19, 2000 07:04:05 PM
IP: h213-18-117.mi2.albacom.net

**enters following his mother, dressed in her dress blue Naval uniform and her VFW hat**

**clears throat** Our tribute to the fallen sailors of the *Kursk*. **tunes for a moment with his mother before continuing**

Eternal father strong to save,
Whose arm doth calm the restless wave,
Who bids the mighty ocean deep,
Its own appointed limits keep,
Oh hear us when we cry to thee
For those in peril on the sea.

**honor guard in the distance fires 21 guns**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, August 19, 2000 05:58:41 PM
IP: 216.28.101.139

***Ray unhinges her brain cap and empties all sensibilities before stepping into CR after lurking and glancing at old comments ***

Whew what a rush!!!!! Glad to be somewhere I can do that:-Þ

Sorry about your monitor, kinda hard to get around without one.

****Mini rant***
You know, you guys and goyles seem pretty sympathetic when it comes to jobs so here is my sob story. I don't know what I did to my super but she doesn't like me anymore and the only thing I point to the dislike stemming from is when she picked up on the butt in of a converstaion. (Hate that) It was me and two other co-workers talking about checking reservations we had made (I'm a travel agent by the way) and I was joking that I rarely make mistakes, I make them but rarely and the two co workers know I do a really good job but I was just messing around (actually all three of us are really good and that's the only reason why I could joke with them like that). Anyway, make a long story short, ever since then I have been getting the evil eye, back haned answers to some serious travel questions and all around hate and discontent. Any suggestions???
***End really stupid rant*******

Moment of silence for the Russian submariners. In life death and taxes are the only constant occurances but to go out in a sub is no way to go. Being former military there are more glorious ways of serving and dying for your country than that.

Who was the person who was doing a cross over of our favorite characters and MIB. I still would love to read it seeing that I absolytely love MIB. May I read it please?!!

Kyryn: I'd rather wait for a quality than quantity so you go and make sure TGS season 3 is awesome. Just don't tease us and not finish. I loved seasons 1 and 2 so go on with yo bad self. The Barracuda's season 3 is really good and keep up the good work and Mercord looks like we are going to have a 'romping good time indeed'.

Everyone on the southeast coast get ready, here they come. One day you wake up the sky is an awesome color blue later that evening it gets quite and the winds pick up, the rain starts and the next thing you know you have Berta, Fran, Bonnie, Dennis (twice), and Floyd at your backdoor. get prepared now.

Okay enough of my silliness *** Takes a deep breath*** Back to reality.
Opens brain cap and put sensibility back in and slams it shut with a horrid scream as it takes over.

Ray - [ray536@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 19, 2000 05:33:02 PM
IP: jax-tnt2-pool1-143.coastalnet.com

*grumbles and stalks into CR, long forgotten red chainsaw in her left (dumb) hand, and a book of poetry in her right*

Hello y'all... Sorry I haven't been here in a while BUT...

*stares first up at the heavens and then down earthwards to the murkest depths of hell* The GODS have chosen to take away the soul of my monitor. I am currently on a computer at a library in Staten Island (don't ask).

Hopefully, I'll get it back soon.

Aaron:: The baby's name was Cyan, I think. Just ta jog ya memory.

I'll be writing a memoir of my Gathering experience as soon as I get a new monitor...

Pray with me folks.. pray with me.

Until then I shall share a snatch of pure poetry to haunt your souls and stay in your head all day... *opens her book one handed as she still grips her chainsaw*

It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small.. small world.

*laughs maniacally and goes to cut up stuff*
Shinigami-- Destroyer of ALL... well, some at any rate. - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 19, 2000 03:34:47 PM
IP: 151.198.102.249

According to what I have heard in the news, there's no more hope to save the crew of the Russian submarine "Kursk". According to what the admirals are saying now, the crew members were probably all dead minutes after the accident...whatever happened under the Sea of Barents. Maybe, if the Russian admirals and politicians were a little less proud, some of those men could be saved. Maybe not. It is no more important, anyway. I'd like to propose a moment of silence for all of them, for no matter what is our nationality or beliefs, we are all equal before death.
"The sea gives often. Sometimes, the sea takes back"

More later
Shadowrider
Saturday, August 19, 2000 02:33:49 PM
IP: h213-20-211.mi2.albacom.net

Gside > book 3? Oh, I wish ... but no, its debut will be at G2001 in L.A.
Christine
Saturday, August 19, 2000 01:39:00 PM
IP: 14-076.009.popsite.net

So far a lazy Sat. morning. Taped several of the new Fox cartoons. Waiting for the rest to finish recording so I can watch them. Really looking forward to checking out Escaflowne, but I think I may have missed the 1st ep last week.

Doug..>..I'm probably to late with my answer, but they HAVE to be from 'Airplane'....(ahh dang! Warpmind already got it. Is what I get for not checking in yesterday like I should have..*grins*)

Mercord/Silver Hunter..>.. I had a feeling it was you, after having read ArchWolf's respone. At first I sort of thought it was ArchWolf himself. ...<< Now I’ve got to decide if I love her. Well, I do love her, but as a friend or as a future spouse? >> Well, it sounds like right now you love her as a friend. It's a pretty good bet that if you have to decide how you feel, then it's not a romantic love. That's not to say that your feelings might not change in the future.When you spend a lot of time with a person, and have a strong friendship with them, it can be easy to trick yourself into believing you are in love with them. All I can say, is don't rush things, but you also don't want to completely shove it to the back of your mind either. Ignored problems never go away, they just grow into bigger headaches.

Jannie..>.. Glad to hear that you are doing better with each day. You still remain in my prayers.

Well...that's it for now, hope everyone has a great weekend. Post ya later! :-)
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Saturday, August 19, 2000 01:19:11 PM
IP: ac91e330.ipt.aol.com

4 days till school starts

16 days til new DBZ

30 days til the boy ship's off
I'll probably be like Crabopple
"You have been waitin so long for this day o arive abs when it does, you don't know what to say"
I hate the jerk...no I despise him, I can get along well with my parents but this little brat. He lieves to make my life miserable, ever other word out is an insult and most of his insults are so hars that times I just want to go to my room and cry

Ok end brother rant

the good news is the Android Sag is coming to cartoon network allright I finally get to see Trunks and Agent L, er I mean 18.
*********************Begin Cyber6,New Digimon and Escaflowne spoilers*****************************************

Cyber 6, ok now this is what american animation should be about. It has the comic book style of animation. The heroin Cyber6 dresses like a female version of Zorro, leaps like a sailor senshi and kicks mutant butt. Oh yeah her alter ego is Adrian a male teacher, Who says heroins can't be crossdressers? The main villain is in shadow but his son Jose is this lil pip squeak who looks like that dorky kid from a 1001 rabbit tales((a Bug's bunny movie.)) and ahhhh! his glasses did that evilvillian who wears glasses glow thing you see a lot in anime((Mara told me about that))

Digimon2, Ok this is gearing up to be better than the first season. There is a new evil in the digiworl, a kid who wants to rule it and he sent out these dark rings to enslave a lot of the digimon. The kids are all older now. T.K and Kari are in jr high and the rest are in highschool. Matt is in a band and Mimi is in New York. There are three new kids Davis((Wear's Tai's goggles) Yolei(Purple haired girl with glasses)) and Cody((The little kid)) New Digimon are Veemon((The blue one)) Hawksmon((The bald eagle)) and Armidillomon((The armidillo)) The hero's can now easily travel from homeworld to digiworld. The three new kids have found the digieggs that when they shout "Armor Energize" cause the digimon to armor digivolve. Also the music sounds better, I like the alt rock theme that plays when during the armor digivolved stage

Escaflowne. A younwoman with a pendant has a vision of an armor. A dragon appears followed by prince Vaughn. After the prince defeats the dragon and takes its gem he and the girl travel to his homeworld. While training a group of giant monster appear and started to destroy his kindom. Vaughn suits up in Escaflowne to battle them. H picks up th girl and just when things appeard grim her pendant glowed.
This is a pretty good anime and I like the fantasy theme as well as the catgirl
I now can't wait for next week to see them again
***************************End Spoilers*********************
Well gotta go BBLM=BeBackLaterMaybe
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, August 19, 2000 12:57:58 PM
IP: user-37kaovs.dialup.mindspring.com

Enity> Scuttling means crouching low and walking sideways
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, August 19, 2000 09:47:46 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.39.15.sandiego1.level3.net

*Warpmind enters, bleary-eyed.*
Agh... Ten thirty-five in the morning... :(

Kyryn: I heartily agree... but I haven't finished Bored of the Rings yet, so don't spoil it, 'kay? :)

Fire Storm: Utterly wrong, friend... The answer is not no, it is a clear, definite YES! I *WILL* leave Norway someday... even if I have to do it in a coffin. See my possible travel routes.

Ana: "Bimbos of the Death Sun"... if you don't have it, it's dirt cheap at Amazon.Com... trust me; that's where I got it. :) That, and the sequel, "Zombies of the Gene Pool".

Emambu: That murder mystery of yours... lessee if I remember this clearly: Romeo committed suicide with poison, and Juliet with Romeo's dagger. The window was broken when Romeo forced entry to Juliet's burial chamber after she had taken a drug which made her appear dead for a period of time... Did I get it right, or is the solution even more obscure?

Well, that's it... I'm still waiting for a definite answer from Lynn Willis of Chaosium about my Call of Cthulhu campaign... *Impatient* So long.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, August 19, 2000 04:53:23 AM
IP: mp-217-203-224.daxnet.no

I am quite happy at the moment as I learned today that I aced both my summer courses. I officially moved my gpa up over another tenth of a point boundary.

SRS Jr.> Best of luck, and may new opportunities arise.

Mrs. Morgan> <<Forgot what else I was gonna say ...>>: Perhaps "Book three is ready to be shipped"?

Mecord> May your trouble find solutions, and yourself find peace.

Fire Storm> <>: I thought that was my job. Or was theat to prove we should not be seen in public? I get so confused.
<<Laughter (L1) = [timing (T) * Cadence (C)] / Audience (A)>>: Actually, since we have no audience (not since the great disaster of '82), we should theoretically have infinate laughter.
<<Sorry, but we will NOT do your home work for you!>>: You won't? And I heard such wonderful things about Principles homework.
<<Hey, you mentioned you are a CompSci guy, right?>>: And also Comp Engineering.
<<Do you know how to design processors?>>: Short answer: no. Not yet at least. That's a CompE job (science is software, engineering is hardware). This summer I did learn assembly (and other nitty gritty programming type stuff). But I have heard we actually design processors in DLD (digital logic design).
<<Ya don't need much experience to become a necropheliac>>: Homonecropyrobestialiacophobia? But some of those skeleton mages do look kind of cute...
<<Lets say some mutants were immortals (Wolvie, for example)>>: Hasn't that already been implied?

Calíope> <<LOL THAT one didnt baffle me>>: I didn't baffle someone? That must be a first.

Emambu> <>: Hear ye, hear ye.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 19, 2000 04:12:20 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*Emambu strolls into the CR*

Hello all. It seems a lot has happened around here recently. A couple birthdays as well as people returning. All in all, I think it's a been a good week for the CR.

Niamhgold: Yeah, those kinds of puzzles are meant to spoken and not read. For example, my uncle always used to give people this one, "There are twenty sick sheep in a field and one dies. How many are left?" Now, reading it is a no-brainer. The answer is nineteen sheep. However, if you say it, the wording sounds more like "twenty-six sheep" and not "twenty sick sheep." it makes it a little more challenging. Of course my favorite puzzles were the ones where you're presented with a scene, and you have to figure out a mystery and you have to figure out what happened based on the handful of clues given. This one is old so I'm sure you've heard it, but it's always been one of my favorites. "Romeo and Juliet are found dead, in a room, in a puddle of water. There's broken glass on the floor by the puddle and the only window in the room is open. There's no door to the room (in some versions there is a door but it's locked). How did Romeo and Juliet die?"

Expatriate: No spoilers, but I did think it was a great setup of the characters and the main story for the season. I look foward to the next part.

Shadowrider: My parents were with me when I went (the only countries I've been to without my parents were Costa Rica and Ireland). Therefore, they didn't want me going into Naples, or any other area that could have been dangerous for a young adult, by myself. However, I do plan on going back some day to see what I didn't see last time. Naples is on my list. :)

SOROW: That's awful about the burn marks on your chest. I hope the scar fades after a few months (like the one on my hand is supposed to).

Winterwolf: I hope I'll get a chance to attend G2001 next year (I was a little peeved that I drove past the place but didn't have time to stop in even for just a couple seconds). BTW, I've noticed that Rodlox, Cassandra, and Cyborg haven't been around much lately either. At least there are others who have returned.

Speaking of which, Welcome back Caliope, Mecord, and Archwolf!

Archwolf: That's terrible about your injuries. I wish you a swift and painless recovery.

Lady Mystic: It's always nice to see my name up there along with a note of thanks. However, I think the real thanks should go to you, Firestorm and anyone else who helped set up the voting pages.

GXB: Happy birthday to you. I hope it was fun.

Kitainia: Thanks for the well wishes at college. I pack Tuesday and classes start in about ten days. it should be interesting if nothing else. :)

Doug: Again, may you have the patience to put up with the troglodytes of the world. After reading those work stories and I didn't know whether to laugh or shake my head in sympathy for you.

Lynne Like: My sincerest congratulations on the success of your son. It sounds like he has a bright future ahead of him.

Mary: My congratulations to you as well. I hope you get the classes you like.

Brooklyn: Your welcome. If I find come across anything that might help, I'll be sure to send it your way. Also, I agree with Winterwolf. I'd just post them. It seems easier in the long-run.

Just out of curiosity, when was it Janine's birthday? Oh well, Have a happy birthday Janine!

Revel: Welcome back! I can empathize about suicidal modems. I just got mine back up and running yesterday after haveing it die on me two weeks ago. Needless to say, it got annoying having to go to my friends house just to post messages.

Jannie: I wish you the best. My thoughts are with you also.

Star Wars 2: Jar-Jar Strikes Back. *shudder*

Ana: Welcome to the CR. I hope you will stick around and post some more. Just make sure you check your sanity at the gate first. :)

Mecord: I'm sorry to hear about your parents putting pressure on you. I hope everything works out for you down the road. If not, you can always vent here if need be.

Firestorm: Stop, you're going to make me break out into singing the National Anthem. :)

Caliope: *Returns hug* Good to have you back.

Well, that's all for now. Again, nothing in the way of interesting events on my part since I've spent most of this week packing for college. I hope to hear from Cartalk soon, so I can know whether or not to post a link or just post the story here. I apologize ofr any typos but it's almost 4am here, and I should try and get some sleep. Take care,

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Saturday, August 19, 2000 03:46:10 AM
IP: spider-wj062.proxy.aol.com

******The Cell spoilers**********

Awesome cinematography! The acting was pretty well done, and the story was your average "there's a girl kidnapped somewhere, and we got to save her." But, the atmosphere, sets and shots were amazing. It actually reminded me of a two hour long gatorade commercial. The costume designer was also the person that did Bram Stoker's Dracula, so you can just imagine the elaborate costumes and make up. This one is definately going to win awards for special effects and cinematography.

**********end spoiler********
Joe Boxer
Saturday, August 19, 2000 01:48:48 AM
IP: spider-th024.proxy.aol.com

Fire Storm > aww, now, that's not entirely true! I have loads of pics of Jericho that aren't naughty! And many by D. May for which the same can be said! ; )

Christine
Saturday, August 19, 2000 01:06:36 AM
IP: 07-126.009.popsite.net

Archwolf>> If you haven't allready, check your e-mail.
Mecord
Saturday, August 19, 2000 12:45:19 AM
IP: usr53.mtwest.net

Hey Again!

Thanks a million to everyone who welcomed me in! Y'all are wonderful!

I loved hearing all your stories of G2 The last thing I went to like that was the anime convention at the DL Hotel.
Unfortunately my friend Ambrosia and I couldn't afford the passes to get in...we did have the best time sneaking past guards to see the movies and bumping into greg randomly in the halls! At the end, thanks to taleweaver who wonderfully gave me his badge, we finally got to go inside! (with like ten minutes left to go!) BTW, thanks again for that Taleweaver!

As for reading "Bimbos and the Death Sun" or whatever it was...I'm not sure we have that in stock...I'll check...

Bye for now
Ana
Ana - [Anasatis]
CA
Saturday, August 19, 2000 12:20:26 AM
IP: 1cust190.tnt1.hemet.ca.da.uu.net

*clears throat*

Highlander characters verse Wolverine> Wolverine. :)

*scuttles off*

(I wonder what scuttling really looks like...)
Entity
Friday, August 18, 2000 11:32:05 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Hi Hi! Hope everyones Ok! :)

Warpmind> <<Welcome back, Caliope. Place wasn't entirely the same without you. :) >> Aw, Thanx! *HUGZ* Glad to be back! :)

Nimahgold> << Of _course_ we'll have you back! ** Hugz **>> Oh Yey! I feel loved and no longer a stray kitty! :P *HUGZ back* How've you been?! :)

Winterwolf> lol *HUGZ back* I missed ya too! And ofcorse I'm glad and honored to be back representing Purple ppl everywhere! :P I've been Ok, I started classes this week, which is the main reason I have access back here again :P How 'bout you, what you been up to?

Katara> <<Welcome back to the "REAL WORLD"! lol. You have been missed. Hope everything is going well in you RL.>> LOL Real world?!?! No! How'd I end up HERE! Thats where I was hiding from when I came here in the first place! ;) I've been pretty good tho, thanx for askin'! How 'bout you?

Gside> <<Welcome back Caliope. There's always room for... no, wait, that's Jello. Rejoin us anyway. >> LOL THAT one didnt baffle me! I get jello comercials! :P I'm glad to be back! :)

Kyryn > Thanx! ^_^

Well, I should get going! For the 57th time or so, I'm much happy to be back!!!! *prances about and HUGZ al CR residents*
Caliope
Friday, August 18, 2000 10:06:16 PM
IP: proxy.coqui.net

<FS enters the CR with a bag of many different types of spice>
Hey all! I found Farmers Market! Yeah! 10 4oz bags of spices for under $20!

Warpmind: <Would I ever move out of Norway, even if it was to the US?>
So, I take it the answer is no, eh?
Too bad. Had a nice $35K a year job and apartment lined up for you. ;)
To be quite honest, there is a good chance you COULD get a job over here that may help you move... if you REALLY wanted.
<(I'm seriously considering airmail, so there's hope... depending on your point of view, that is...)>
Overnight international for your average male... $12,000
If you go 64th class: $1.50 (When it absolutely, positively, WON'T make you cry when it dosn't get there!)
Hmm...
Bad Idea on how to get here #25: Donate all of your organs! You can come over for free, one piece at a time! :)

Christine: (From your website) <Jericho by Demona May (mature eyes only)>
Oh, like Demona May does anything BUT for mature eyes only.
Come to think of it... like many Jericho picture are NOT for mature eyes only!
OH! Bad thing about the US! (If I remember correctly...)
NO Bjork in the US.

Daniel Johnson: <Or should I say complex? :)>
Hmm... I think you just proved that math, engineering, CompSci, and physics majors should NOT make jokes! ;)
Laughter (L1) = [timing (T) * Cadence (C)] / Audience (A)
So... using that basic problem, prove that we arn't funny!
<G>

Xanathar: <apparently their supposed to be working on the Dreamcast version of SS2>
A multiplayer version that removes alot of the cool elements from the game.

Gside: <Prove it is impossible for x>=3 in under 50 pages, but more than a margin>
Sorry, but we will NOT do your home work for you!
<You mean other than the fundamental assymetry of existance?>
Well, yeah, besides that.
Why can't we just go back to Babalonian base 60?
<Oh yes, but my buns are much better>
Ain't touching that joke with a 10k pole.
Hey, you mentioned you are a CompSci guy, right? Do you know how to design processors?
<Then say something.>
Oh, sure. Take the easy way out.
<Though he can't do much yet as an inexperienced necro.>
Ya don't need much experience to become a necropheliac! :)

Shadowrider: <they tried to show "Road Rules" here, but it was a flop...here they base their strategies on music and animation (for example, they showed "Cowboy Bebop" with a great audience)>
All right. You win. Italy rules!
American TV is based on reality based TV. Surviror, Game shows, news, Real World/Road Rules, COPS, Trauma, etc...
They are cheap to make, are popular, and make tons of cash.
Quality dosn't sell enough here. Quantity, quantity, and reality. Thats what sells here.
Needless to say, alot of American TV sucks.

Emambu: <God bless America and God bless our judiciary system!!>
Where else can a burgular break into a house, trip on a power cord, break a arm, sue the home owner and WIN?
Ah, but ain't that America?

Todd Jensen: <but it will be interesting to see Buffy versus the most infamous vampire of all time>
Unless he is the season's official bad guy, I don't see him lasting more than a single episode.

Winterwolf: <When do you estimate the pictures will be ready for use?>
With luck... in a few weeks.
Realisticly... Well, lets hope we can get them up before the new TGS season.
Gorebash is just SUPER busy.

Silver Hunter: 
Hmm... we got a Winterwolf, Archwolf,

Aaron: <A bunch of us singing "We are the fans" eh? I'd like to see that.>
Or "Hands across the fandom"

SJ: <Star Trek Voyager news>
Personally, I say Harry or Belina is gonna die.
But WHY do they have to kill someone in the last season?
DEATH TO JANEWAY!
Dude... what were you on when you did that post?

X-Men/Highlander crossover: Lets say some mutants were immortals (Wolvie, for example)
Who would win?
Wolvie vs. Duncan
Wolvie vs Conner
Wolvie vs Ramerez
Wolvie. Definately. He would fight dirty!

Gargs/Highlander: MacBeth vs Conner (Mac vs Mac)
Conner chops MacBeth's head off. He waits and waits for the quickening.
MacBeth picks up his head, puts it back on, then takes Conner's head.

Poster Clarification: EEEK! It seems like my idea is getting quite a bit of criticism. What I MEANT was that everyone SHOULD make their costumes, wether they think they can make it or not, and if they can't, send a picture of them in the costume.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, August 18, 2000 09:53:02 PM
IP: 03-177.008.popsite.net

Just a quick check to let everyone know I am alive.

no BFTS RP from me today for good reasons.

The, the, the, that's all for now folks.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, August 18, 2000 07:46:34 PM
IP: max1-32.cwy.cei.net

***Kyryn peers in***

Aaron> Actually, we had the tar, stink, and hammering about four months ago when they re-roofed our side of the complex. THAT lasted about a month. At the moment, I'm not really the one who has a problem. Okami is on night shift and he's the one who's had to deal with it. BTW, his solution involves earplugs and an occasional sleeping pill.

Later All!

***Kyryn disappears***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:52:25 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

First, a heart-felt thanks to each of you that has wished me a speedy recovery. I truly appreciate your thoughts, prayers, and consideration. *hugs*

Stephen> *gentle hug* I hope that you find employment soon and that your life begins to take the uphill road.

Aaron, Lexy and Christine> thank you for the G2K Journal. I've enjoyed reading your adventures. Sounds like everyone had a great and humorous time! =)
Thanks to all who have posted pictures! It's been the next best thing to being there!

Kyryn> eek! I hope that the construction will be over with soon so that you can have some piece and quiet!

Coyote> *hugs* I hope that whatever is going on in your life right now that things will work out for the best and that you will be alright. You're in my thoughts, friend.

Sevarius Jr. > ohmygosh! I love the Elvis trivia!! I think the guy was a pig... *shrugs* but he was extremely odd and interesting. I would love to hear more trivia about him *nod nod nod*
Your dog sounds wonderful! I have a chihuahua and she is probably about as brave as your fox terrier. She tried to attack a golden lab once - never once hesitated. She's amazing sometimes. She will also bite anyone who comes near me (if I'm holding her). She's my protector ;)
Also, I love your Hollywood updates too!

Lynne> I love the sound of your sister in law! My kinda' gal! ;) I certainly hope that she is not charged with any criminal misconduct! I won't be suprised if she is though *sighs* Keep us updated!!

Presidental voting: I know that it's tempting to cast a vote for an independent candidate, but please reconsider that decision. There's not a snowball's chance in hedes that an independent or a write-in would win, so it's a wasted vote. Make your vote count by voting either for Bush or Bush. just kidding ;) But, it is important to stay with the real political choices. *puts soapbox away*

Kit> you are one of the kindest people that I've ever had the pleasure of meeting online. I look forward to the day when we can meet IRL.

Doug> I'm terribly sorry for the stress that you've had recently at your job. I know that you are in a scary position - one of authority and yet you have very little power to protect yourself... hmmmmm, sounds like a teacher, huh? *chuckles* My son is a cashier at a SuperCenter and before he was hired for that position, I mentioned that they were looking for security. He looked at me very seriously and said, "ummmm, mom? I just can't see putting my life on the line for Wal-Mart." Try to keep your chin up and do the best you can - that's all anyone can ask for. The lack of training that they have not provided is appalling - especially for the position and responsibilites that you shoulder. They spent a week training Michael to be a cashier, but they won't train for a dangerous position such as yours.. *blinks* Take care and be safe, my friend.
Don't worry about your lack of response when the police officer was being attacked. That's called "frozen with fear". It's a very true emotion and reaction to have.
Once when I was living in an apt. I watched a man try to break into my apartment with a crowbar. I was watching him thru the peep-hole and was totally frozen and could not move. Thank goodness he couldn't get past the deadbolt lock. Fear is unpredictable in how we may react to it and we may not necessarily react the same way twice. I know that I haven't. Another time, I fought back... go figure, huh?

Lexxy> I'll be at the Gathering 2001 =) I have been saying that surely nothing else medically can go wrong with me... short of a brain tumor! *chuckles* At least those don't run in my family! *wipes brow*
Mini Clan is the process of having a T-shirt art contest and we're making plans to make a huge showing at the Gathering :) I have a credit with Continental Airlines (from the cancelled trip to Orlando) and I plan on using it towards a flight to LA ;)

Well, my time is up - I must go stretch my muscles. Take care all and I want to see MORE G2K pics!! *hint hint* ;)
Jannie
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:38:20 PM
IP: 209-144-251-118.hou.port.mytelco.com

**Mecord enters, holding a box of Kleenexes. He blows his noes loudly.**

Sometimes it feels good to know your missed. I’d been gone so long I felt everyone would have forgotten about me and moved on with life. Thanks to Aaron, Niamhgold, Archwolf, Winterwolf, Katara, Gside, Doug, Warpmind, and Kyryn for the welcome back. *sniff*
A special thanks to Gside, Winterwolf, and Archwolf who noticed I was missing and called me back.

Archwolf>> As soon as I run through the story one more time I’ll mail it. This afternoon most likely. Heal well and fast.

Anyone>>I tried to post the first part of my story again, but it didn’t upload properly. I went in to see if it worked but all it pulls up is a blank page, no story. What am I doing wrong? Is there anyway I can just repost the post that already works? Hmm, idea. In the box next to the link I will add the address to the story that works until I figure out what went wrong. Any ideas??????

Pogo>> Souls going to a life drawing seminar???!!! Boy does that send freaky images to the brain. :)

GXB>> It's your birthday? if it is, then Happy Birthday!!!

DPH and Doug>> By the by, Silver Hunter was me. As was the anonymous post just before. It was rather pointed at Archwolf, I knew he would catch on to the Elf eating incident we joke about. I have to admit to being pleased it tricked a few others. ;) Hope you don’t feel bad, thanks for the welcome anyway.

Doug>>$Great job on the battle between the Genie and Lloky. I thoroughly enjoyed it. :)$ Intense day there. Security seems to be a contradiction in terms. They want you to stop any and all theft as they tie both hands behind your back. And when you do what you think is right, they ream, blindfold, and gag you. Typical.

SJ>> Highlander: I hear both Duncan and Conner are in this one, and one of them dies (permanently, as in off with his head, decap., pulling the headless horseman… you get the idea). Any truth to this or am I just getting my hopes up? :)

If Conner and Duncan fought each other who would win? Personally, my bet would be with Duncan. But then, he gets a lot of practice, having his own series and all.

Well, my absence was anything but dull. Considering what did happen I wish it had been dull. I feel like I’ve spent two months in Hell. My work place is the only place I feel comfortable lately. Everybody there makes comments on how cheerful and happy I am. As a contingent I fill in for anybody who needs time away. There is a long list of people who all have their own lists and I’m at the top. I get a lot of opportunities to work extra hours and I take every one I can. They don’t know that I like to work because I can leave all my other worries behind me for a few hours. My family has been unbearable. Putting pressure on me and my little brother to sign up for classes this semester. Nothing I want to take is open but I signed up for two classes just to appease them. My little brother just puts on a hopeful facade that makes them think he’ll sign up but leaves just enough room for doubt that he can procrastinate until the semester begins and escape classes. Sneaky and manipulative little bugger that’s for sure. He just moved back in this month. Speaking of manipulative my parents have been unbearable. They use me as the “perfect son” to try and get my little brother to take classes and shape up his life. Only problem with that is I don’t feel like playing the perfect son and being used like that. So I’ve been rather elusive and gloomy recently. That’s the upside to the past two months.
I won’t go into detail, it would take to long, but I’ve been through a lot of psychological stress lately. Battling demons of the past as I often do. My good friend and confidant has a long record of driving Psychologists and Psychiatrists to the loony bin. She tells me I could give them a run for their money. Then she adds to my lunacy by telling me she’s fallen in love with me. Not exactly what I needed to ease my stress but I can’t blame her for that. Now I’ve got to decide if I love her. Well, I do love her, but as a friend or as a future spouse? I don’t know. This may sound callous but I’ve kind of shoved this into the back of my brain until I have time to deal with it in an appropriate manner. I talked with her about that and she seemed to understand. I really hope she understands and didn’t just say that to be nice. Well, now I’m just rambling. But it was to the point that the slightest thing irritated me, except for work. A week or two back if we had been robbed at gunpoint I probably would have chuckled through the entire ordeal and when the criminal would have left I would have called, “THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING AT ZCMI! COME AGAIN!” But other than the stress of school impending, this week has been much easier to deal with.

I don’t know whether to call that an update or a rant. Looking it over, it says a lot about nothing. But it at least should give you an idea of how I felt about my busy summer. I’ll let your own imaginations fill in the rest.

*****’NUFF OF THAT, TIME FOR AN RP!!!*****
Thieves Guild Headquarters, location unknown.
“This having to recharge our magic is getting pathetically annoying,” Lithanne spat.
“Well, when you figure out what is causing it let me know,” Mecord retorted, “The mastergem has been under a lot of strain lately. It’s completely useless to us in this search. Not even the dragons have found anything.”
Bardic raised his head from across the room at the mention of dragons. He was currently in dragon form. Taking up most of the available space in the large conference hall.
“There’s always Lloky,” said the dragon, “She may have found something we’re missing.”
“Yeah, we’re missing her,” Thicarrn rolled his eyes, “You never did tell us where she went.”
“I sent her to watch over two of the Ravens. I felt it necessary in order to repay the Ravens for all their help. If she is successful Doug’s memory will be restored. What about the new recruits? Are they ready to join the search?”
“Are you kidding?” Mecord sounded indignant, “Even after all their training they barely have the skills most ‘applicants’ would have on Magia. And teaching them magic… next to impossible with this curse on us. No, it’s time to find out what Thailog may have found out about our situation.”

Thailog’s hidden base.
A werewolf, who was once known as Archwolf, emerges from the shadows behind the Gargoyle, Thailog. For a moment he considered tearing at the vulnerable neck. But the anticipation of this encounter he wished to see was greater.
“Lord Thailog,” he said with open scorn, “You remember the gem Mecord spoke of to you? I have found it.”
The Gargoyle turned, raising an eyebrow in surprise. Another figure stepped from the shadows. The sparkle of a blue gem the size of a basketball was held in his hands in a selfish, paranoid manner.
“Greetings Thailog,” The strange human spoke with a light, haunting voice, “My name is Gar, and this is my mastergem.”
*****Sadly the end of this RP that starts a new alliance against the forces of good!*****

Mecord - [mecordlein@mailcity.com]
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:30:15 PM
IP: usr45.mtwest.net

Lexy> It was at the second 3x3 Eyes session. Greg and Thom were at opposite ends of the room, and I was sitting sort of between them. I just heard Greg say that, out of the corner of my ear as it were, and I was like "THOM! THOM!" Btw, I thought Greg was talking to you, because I couldn't imagine him making that offer to anyone else.

Mary Flanders> Yeah, Morning Glory's cool. I've got all six issues. It's done by Radio Comix, one of our local indie companies.

Kyryn> Oh, I feel your pain. A few years ago, we had a hail storm, and a roofing contractor who lived in the neighborhood convinced everyone they needed a new roof. Ugh, it was nothing but the sound of hammers and the smell of roofing tar for a month.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:25:43 PM
IP: ppp-207-193-241-135.snantx.swbell.net

New on my site: loads o' pics! By Demona May, Denis, Coyote, and Graymonk. Thank you, all, you're wonderful!
Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Stephen > hang in there, my friend ... our thoughts are with you!

Bimbos of the Death Sun > _got_ to get Greg to read that one! LOL!

Forgot what else I was gonna say ...
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:15:20 PM
IP: 15-134.009.popsite.net

Aack! Dejavu, no? (Sorry for the 2x post)
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Niamhgold
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:55:42 PM
IP: lac-flex104.ncia.net

** Niamhgold pops in really quicky before the late shift **

I hope I've got the date right...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GXB! ** Throws confetti, gives 'im a cupcake, and disappears from the room in an explosion of balloons **

~^_^~
Niamhgold
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:53:58 PM
IP: lac-flex104.ncia.net

just random note:
did damoclese do this pic?
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it looks like his style. (so why dont i email him and ask, or go check his site? uhm... im LAZY! thats it! ;P)
Kya White Sapphire
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:12:22 PM
IP: user-38lc2ev.dialup.mindspring.com

Thanks again to the umpteen brave souls who went to the life drawing seminar when I was there.

Just a quick post to wheedle y'all (who went) to consider scanning and emailing to me any drawings therefrom that you're proud of? I need to try to build up a portfolio of sketches by DIFFERENT artists (not just one or two), so it'd be a big help, if you're comfortable with it. :)
Pogo - [pogo101@yahoo.com]
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:05:24 PM
IP: 209.79.31.4

***Kyryn walks into the room wearing a heavy duty set of ear protection and takes it off when she realizes that the noise level has dropped.***

Yeesh! They're renovating the apartment behind ours and the banging is starting to drive me nuts.

Doug> LOL! "The white zone is for loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no parking in the white zone." I loved that movie, especially since I grew up next door to LA International Airport (LAX).

Archwolf> Here's to getting better! *grins*

Mecord> Welcome Back!

Ana> Big cities aren't that bad (says someone who grew up in one ;) ). Once they get the gathering site decided, I'm sure that the G2001 committee will post all kinds of helpful info for those planning to attend. BTW, welcome to the CR!

Warpmind> "Bimbos of the Death Sun" -- Fuuunnn book! "Bored of the Rings" is a classic laugh, too!

Doug> Sorry to hear about the work woes, but I'm glad to hear that you are gaining experience and that things are getting better.

Stephen> Here's a couple of crossed fingers and toes that you'll find something good soon.

Revel> Good to see you back!

College> Research paper: *grin* when you're an English Major you get used to those.

Caliope> Welcome Back!

Later All!

***Kyryn starts to head out the door, thinks for a moment, then puts the ear protection back on again, waves to everyone and leaves.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, August 18, 2000 11:56:26 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Greetings all...

Not much to report for now... still no job, but a possible prospect in the works. been really out of sorts... I can't concentrate much, even to write and that is frustrating, let me tell you...

wish me best, hope I can find work soon...

maintain and check six!
Stephen R. Sobotk, Jr. - [sciifangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Friday, August 18, 2000 10:41:14 AM
IP: proxy-1362.public.svc.webtv.net

*Warpmind enters, laughing like a madman.*
Oh, if you guys haven't yet, try to get a copy of Harvard Lampoon's Bored of the Rings! It's utterly HILARIOUS!

Shadowrider: I'd explain the jewel deal to you, but I won't spoil your game. ;)

Niamhgold: National Enquirer? Hmmm... I have higher aspirations than that... isn't there an International edition? ;)

Ed: I am quite aware of the differences between the US and the British government. Learned about the two systems in English class. But I live in Norway, and that's *yet* another system... :)

Welcome back, Mecord.

Christine: I've been Anti-Yahoo ever since the Geocities deal. And I've sent what Tim asked for; no worry.

Niamhgold again: Y'know, if The Stars Are Right, it just might me me who winds up dragging you with me to G2001. *Starts scouring the financial news and entertainment news for too-rich-for-their-own-good businessmen/women and artists/bands going to Los Angeles shortly prior to the relevant days in June...*

SJ: With luck, the next SW movie is ttled "Star Wars 2: Doom of the Gungans"... ;)

Winterwolf: Agreed. Personally, I'm just happy with the Plated Belt and Chain Boots I have, which are unique. The rest is Mammoth plate/crown and one AWESOME pike, which, using a savegame editor, I have renamed to the Whuppus Buttus Maximus. :) As for characters, I'm considering making a new character... but I haven't decided which kind yet. Or maybe I'll just use my Necro on Nightmare and Hell first...

Ana: Grab a copy of Sharyn MacCrumb's "Bimbos of the Death Sun", read it, and you *should* be pretty well armed. ;) Seriously, though, I hear sci-fi actors and such actually use it as a *survival guide* for cons...

Gside: Oh... you were thinking golf pun... guess you didn't have the balls for that, then. ;) And as for my Necro's chances to get his stash... sure, distraction alright, but my Blood Golem got whacked almost at once... it was mostly thanks to the "R" button that I got away often enough to poke'im a few good ones. :| As for my shipping means, well, see my last comment to Niamhgold...

Doug: That pilot crew is from the Airplane! movies. :) Seen'em a couple of times... "Drinking problem"... *Chuckle.*

Well, gotta scoot. Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 18, 2000 06:07:30 AM
IP: mp-217-208-189.daxnet.no

**RP HERE ONCE AGAIN**

Bessus stares at Gubio and Erin as they finish bringing him up to date on everything. Slowly he shakes his head. "There's a nuclear bomb down here? Merciful Allah! Is it true?" Terrell nods. "There is indeed a strong possibility that it is." "Abdullah uses the threat of the bomb to force us to grow drugs for him even though the fumes from poppy products cause bronchial damage to our kind," Annabelle growls. "We don't know how he got it down here, but Vincent is so scared of it that he feels he has to comply with Abdullah's demands." "Didn't Catherine teach Vincent anything?" Bessus sighs. "Maybe he's forgotten the lessons," Gubio shrugs. "What with her being dead." Bessus nods. "Maybe. Look, we should do this- you guys get back to the surface. Fasil and Mary have made the necessary calls and Mary's friend in MI-5 is wanting to meet you all. So is my pal Colonel Amad, who just got into town an hour ago. Get things ready to launch an assault on Abdullah's ranch. I'll stay down here and look for the bomb, they'll be watching for you but not me. They don't know I'm here and they won't. If I find it, I can probably disarm Abdullah's bomb. I took an EOD course back when I was in the Israeli Army and one of the tests was on a live nuke." "Good luck," Erin tells him. "If it's even down here. We're not sure if it is. The threat of a nuclear bomb can be as powerful as the bomb itself, and since no one knows how it could have gotten past City security…" Bessus grimaces in agreement. "I see your point. Well, I have the Geiger counter, I should find it if I can." "Maybe I'll help you," Terrell suggests. "I can get into places down here you can't." "You should drink this," Annabelle adds, handing Bessus a small vial of green liquid. "It will make you look like a caiveh for the next twenty-four hours, so you won't have any problems with the Isolation Patrol or anyone else. Terrell can stay with you as extra insurance." Bessus grins. "Thanks. It's good to know someone has the right idea as far as what should be done about this bomb." Mist meows in agreement and Gubio and Erin smile too. "Good luck, Bessus," Gubio says. "We'll be going now. See you upstairs in a while."

"Right," Bessus nods. "Good luck to you too." He is uncorking the potion and raising it to his lips while Gubio, Mist, and Erin turn to leave when suddenly there is a rapid knock on the door. "Wonder who that is," Terrell frowns. "Just a second!" He reaches to open the door when its lock is suddenly blasted off its hinges. A small group of caiveh in full black ninja gear stands in the doorway, laser rifles in hand. "Humans and human sympathizers!" snarls the leader. "Are you prepared to die? Because we are prepared to kill you right now!" The others roar in agreement, and Mist answers them with a loud yowl of her own. "Terrell, who are…" Erin begins, but Terrell cuts her off. "Stand down right now, whoever you are! By order of me!" "Human lover!" a caiveh grunts back. "Die!" He raises his weapon and fires, the shot bouncing off Terrell's armor. "That was not wise," the caiveh warrior remarks matter-of-factly, drawing his own gun and getting ready to shoot back. Gubio, Erin, Mist, and Bessus pull their weapons too, realizing that they will have to do the same. As Terrell tries to tell them to shoot to stun, the twenty or so masked caiveh facing the group roar and rush to the attack. On a rooftop above them all, a few more caiveh stand waiting with sniper rifles in hand. Standing beside them, Kovu smiles as one declares that he has a shot. "Fire."

**TO BE CONTINUED NEXT TIME. END RP**

Hey everybody. I said I would make a big post today, this is it. :) Before I start, I just want to say thanks to all of you who gave kind words about my on-the-job experiences last night. They were a mess, but I took care of them with the help of others. And I'm over them now. Tonight's shift was thankfully quiet right up until the end when Loss Prevention had me take the plate of some suspicious characters circling the building in their car, one of whom had also illegally parked his car in a handicapped space. When I stopped the former car to make the one who had illegally parked move, he got all mad and tried to grab my clipboard and scratch out the numbers I'd written down. Accused me of harassment when I refused to let him have it, even when I told him what it was about and that I had good reason for taking his license plates (that proved to be a big mistake and I didn't even realize it was one at the time- :( ), and got me all flustered. Good thing he and the other people left right afterwards. <sighs> Surprisingly the hardest part of this job is not confronting awful situations like last night, it's that I'm a rookie with only three weeks of experience under my belt. There's a lot of stuff they didn't tell me, and I've made mistakes as a result. I've annoyed the management by calling in about every little possible problem, I've gotten shaken up when I shouldn't have, and done a number of other bad things. <sighs again> Thank goodness my bosses are understanding for the most part and I'm learning as I go, so I don't make mistakes again once I know what they are. SJ definitely has a point about some things about this job, the store's restrictions worry me too but not as much as my getting forced into on-the-job training. They say it's all thought and common sense, that I should pick it up easy, but that advice does not easily prepare one for situations like I've described to all of you in here. Not as much as going through them doing the wrong things, being told what the right things are after the fact (when you get the chance to hear them), and then resolving to do them next time. Especially when my own sense of logic, decency, and common sense tells me I should tell someone why I'm taking down their license plate and what it's about, the whole deal, that it should get them calmed down, and I don't know any better…<grimace> If they had just told me what the right things were before I found out the hard way… <sighs> That stuff they told me about never assuming stuff applies to them too. Doesn't help that we have several people from the old company working for us now and doing a great job from what I and my supervisor can tell, or that the store I work at is right near the Austin gang ghetto. <sighs> Oh well, at least I'm learning and picking up the skills. Hopefully if I keep at it long enough I'll get the experience I need and then be able to transfer to a security job where I can get more of the respect I deserve given the stuff I have to put up with. For now, I'll keep taking the lessons, the pay, and as much of the BS as I have to for as long as they see fit to give them to me. Y'all are right to marvel at my patience. On to replies.

Shadowrider: <shakes head at Naples situation> That's terrible. I wish your nation's cops the best of luck in cleaning things up, they have my prayers. Hopefully they'll be able to work it, I'm glad they're doing a good job so far. :) I also hope they can bust the crooked politicians as well as the Mafia guys, one feeds off the other and causes problems beyond compare. Good point about our justice system, I've thought it many times myself. Glad that you'll be sharing my prayers about the shoplifter. :) At least someone will. I'm already taking your advice, thanks for it as well as your words. I admire the same thing you do about Kit. <grin>

GXB: Don't worry about the feedback, you can take as long as you need with it just as long as you get it to me soon. Glad you enjoyed the cast list. I liked making it too. Here are a few additions:
Bahamut- Sean Connery.
Sui Lung- Ming Na-Wen.
Alicia Silvermane- Alicia Silverstone.
Herbert Landon- David Warner.
Baron Mordo- Tony Jay.
Kiril Marchenko- Donald Sutherland (with a Russian accent :).

Katara: Well, if you're happy how with your marriage turned out, then I guess it's all okay. <shrugs> I'm just glad you're friends and all- being the child of divorced parents and coming from a family with six siblings on my mom's side who have all been divorced at least once, I have seen a lot of emotional turmoil between ex-spouses. Way too much if you ask me. Good to see at least some people in this world are immune to it, even better to have them as friends. :) Thanks for your encouragement about last night, it did indeed shake me up something fierce. When I heard the officer getting attacked, and couldn't rush to help, I nearly soiled my pants. Not good for a security officer, even if it's understandable. :( Thank God nights like that are one in a million, or so I hope.

Stephen: Congrats on getting the computer, and good luck achieving decent Web access soon. If it's as important to your sanity (or lack thereof) as it is to mine…<grins>

Niamhgold: Forgot to say this before, but congrats on the relationship. I wish you both the best of luck. Good luck with your job also, I know all about having to earn money for what you need. Hopefully you have a better time at work than I do. Good luck with college also when it begins. Hope you'll wish me the same, I might need it since it's coming up so fast. <sigh> Thanks for your encouragement on the job.

SOROW: Congrats on defeating the flu again, I'm sure my prayers helped. :) Also, sorry I forgot to say it before- good luck with the Explorers job. I know it may take up a lot of your time, but it is worth it to get experience and help others. I'm also sorry about the embarrassing wound, but hey, things like that happen. At least _you_ get to pack heat. :) Hope you get treated with more respect than I do too. <shakes head> One of these days… Like I said, good luck. May you not have to go through the stuff I do as much as I do, and if you do, I pray you will be able to handle it. :)

Lynne: <grins> Your sister has some big cujones. My congrats to her on resolving that situation like she did. Thanks for telling us about it. Hopefully I will one day be able to be as brave. :) Congrats to your son on his scholarship and success. And welcome back!

SJ: Clones as Stormtroopers? <shakes head> Kit said it better than I did. Lucas needs to get down off his ego trip and screw his head back on right. He was doing right things with the earlier Star Wars movies, what the heck happened? <sighs> Oh well, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. But I do have to say this- Episode 2 BETTER be something Ep 1 wasn't- worth the price of admission. <sigh> I completely agree with your points about MTV and my on-the-job troubles. You're completely right in that the people at Wal-Mart don't pay nearly as much attention to their security company as they should. The guys who were here before us didn't do their job well at all, they didn't even try to do it. They just stood around and only acted if called, the store lost a lot of money because of them. At first I thought it was just because they were all inept losers, but now given the experiences I've had when I've tried to do my job well despite the flak, BS, and all around disrespect I get from both the people I confront doing bad stuff and the store employees, and nobody tells me about mistakes I want to avoid until after I make them…<sighs> I have half a mind to point all this out to them, see what happens, but that could get me fired. :( Oh well, I hopefully will only have to endure it for a couple more years or so. Then I can go commissioned, transfer to some other company where I get respect. Like the Star Armored guys who drop off the store's money every day. They get to ride around in an armored van, carry loaded weapons and other tools of the trade, and so on. Bet nobody gives them any c&@p. <smile> I will be one of them someday. :) Also good points about politics and the Russian sailor situation. I pray for those trapped crewmen, but I doubt it will do any good even so. :( <observes moment of silence for them now, shakes head>

Expatriate: Good beginning to the new Pendragon season. Airwalker, Graymonk, Kit, and Ed have pointed out a lot of stuff about it I agree with- lack of in-depth character development, ignorance of realism, pushing aside of possibly intriguing conflict, and so on, but all that can be understood and forgiven. I did enjoy the story's dialogue, its plot, and its artwork. Many intriguing threads for future episodes were also laid, I can hardly wait to see how they turn out. Keep up the good work!

Todd: Thanks for mentioning those Buffy/Angel teasers in here, I didn't get to see them due to my having to work so much lately. They sound very interesting, I'm eager to see how they play out. Particularly Sir Angel. :)

Robby: You can always go with a write-in candidate. That's what I plan to do with my vote. Alan Keyes being the guy in question. Out of all the people who ran, he was the only one who seemed sensible and fit for the job of President. Why he got so little support is beyond me. Damn this nation's special interests backing the idiots and losers. <sighs> He probably won't win, but at least I'll know I voted for the right person and have a clear conscience. And who knows, maybe I won't be the only one who does it either. <grins> I and many other Americans would probably like that. Good luck with your college ahead, hope you'll wish me the same. :)

Mecord: Welcome back! Been missing you. Hope you can post again soon and let us know how things are. Same goes to Aaron (who I thank very much for sharing his great Gathering experiences), Ed, Archwolf, Airwalker, and all our returned friends. :)

Lexy: Don't worry, Kit and I are gonna try our best to make it to the next Gathering. Thanks for your encouragement, it helps us get our drive down. :) BTW, I was LOL at Greg's response to your Lex's mate query which you mentioned. Thanks for doing so, and for describing your other Gathering experiences. It was a great read. :) When I am able to get around to it, I'm sure Christine's essay will be the same.

Welcome Silver Hunter, Ana, and all newcomers!

Gside: "May you not have to live in interesting times." <sighs> Too late. Thanks for the thought though.

That's about all for tonight. I must sleep now. Hopefully tomorrow will be a day that's easier on me. I have learned from all the mistakes on the job I've made so far and will not make them again, but if new ones arrive, or worse yet, we get more awful situations… I'll thank everyone in here to keep me in their prayers. Later!

**RESUME RP- THE RAVENS' SAGA**

"You're all gassed up and ready to go," Agent Rho tells Doug and Kit as the screen comes on displaying them all standing beside the Onslaught. "We fixed it up right good." "Thank you," Kit smiles at him. "Lathrop get on the chopper alright?" Rho nods. "He'll be taken to Santa Fe to spend a couple days with his family like he wanted, then I'll have Jock fly him to meet you in Minneapolis. You let me know if you need anything else from us, alright? We may be pretty involved right now in trying to get the Avatar back online and all, but we are still here if you need our help." "Okay, good," Doug replies. "Thanks for everything." Rho nods again. "Not a problem. See you later." He then turns and walks off. Kit turns to address the Ravens. "Alright, here's our convoy setup. Jammer and Tricia drive the Onslaught, Stephanie and Keith follow in her car. Boris, you and Elena are in the station wagon. Tom, you and Orion are in our new tank with Howell and Mansfield. Watch them, just in case." "You can trust us, okay?" Leah grins at her. "How many times do I have to tell you?" "Forgive my paranoia," Kit replies, shrugging. Leah frowns, and so does Tom, but Mansfield looks like he understands. He gives Kit a thumbs-up. "Doug and I will be on the Road Moccasin taking point," Kit ignores him and continues. "We'll radio back if we see anything suspicious. Let's…" "Um, excuse me!" a voice cuts in. "Aren't you forgetting someone?" Kit looks and sees Anthony frowning. "Whoops," she grins sheepishly. "Sorry, still getting used to the new guy, I guess." "Yeah, I guess so," Anthony shakes his head. "It's okay." Kit nods. "You can be in the trailer." "Alright," Anthony nods. "By the way, I heard you got that Jerec guy. Nice job." "Thanks," Doug replies, smiling. "It was pretty difficult, but we won." "Anyone or anything else I forget?" Kit looks over the party. "Okay then, let's go. I don't want Shap and Shauna worrying for too much longer." The others chorus agreement and begin getting into their vehicles. Minutes later, they are driving out the gates of Area 51 heading east towards Minneapolis and the meeting scheduled there.

The display changes to Thailog's secret base, where General Zale, Tyl, and Dr. Edison are standing in the middle of a large hangar next to a B-2 stealth bomber and four F-18s. "The planes are armed and ready," Zale tells the other two. "Lord Thailog said his spy just confirmed the Ravens' route, so this should work." He sighs. "I really hope they left any prisoners from my team they still had with them at Area 51 like we think they did. If I lose good men to friendly fire…" "You won't, General," Tyl interrupts. "The pilots have been instructed not to bomb the vehicle they're in, don't worry." "Good," Zale smiles. "That's a relief. Eliminating our enemies is one thing, but killing our own people to do it…" He shakes his head and looks at Edison. "The pilots you cloned are good men, right? They're not going to make the same mistakes that last bunch of clones did?" "No sir," Edison chuckles. "Igor and I did good work on these pilot clones. We modeled them on the best movie airplane pilots we knew of." "Excellent," Zale nods. "I hope they do their jobs." Meanwhile in the B-2's cockpit, the bombing crew are preparing for takeoff. "Do we have clearance, Clarence?" the bombardier asks the co-pilot. "Roger," he replies. "Yes?" inquires the navigator, turning around. "We have clearance," Clarence says after waving him off and getting a frown in reply. "Don't forget to let the tower know our vector, Victor," he adds to the pilot. "Roger," Victor nods. "What?" asks Roger. "Nothing," Victor frowns, causing Roger to glare at him. "Let's, uh, take off now. Surely we'll be successful in our mission, right?" "Of course we will," says the bombardier. "And please, don't call me Shirley." Victor nods, and the screen goes out.

**CYBER-COOKIE TO THE PERSON WHO CAN POINT OUT WHAT MOVIE THESE GUYS ARE FROM. END RP**
Doug
Friday, August 18, 2000 05:26:47 AM
IP: pool-209-138-201-205-dlls.grid.net

Doug> May you not have to live in interesting times.

Winterwolf> <<Did the big D drop any extra special items?>>: He drops some good stuff, but it's probably equvalent to Nightmare act 2 or 3.
<<<plane> Excellent! I'll spring for gas money! Translation - I'll expense it>>: Feh. If I had my way, it would only be built of the fun stuff you find hiding in engineering labs. Of course, if I had my way, it would essentially be a giant cockpitless ballistic engine.

Patrick Toman> <<We all look rather normal and harmless the rest of the time, though.>>: Except for me. No, wait, I haven't gone anywhere yet. Unless that wasn't just in my mind...

Welcome back Caliope. There's always room for... no, wait, that's Jello. Rejoin us anyway.

Warpmind> <<The joke would be "East. Always... to the East.">>: I was thinking more along the lines of a golf pun. Isn't it supposed to be gulf stream?
<>: Odd, I would think necromancers could easily create quick distractions for him.
<<I'll have to send myself disguised as a corpse, in a coffin>>: Is there a good medical school next to the convention? They should always be recieving new cadavers.

Shadowrider> <<Smash that yellow jewel? Hmmm...but won't it free Baal?>>: **SPOILER** Nahh, since they corrupted the jewels, smashing them permanently banishes them from this plane. But you prabably have to kill them first. **/SPOILER** Anyone else excited by the expamsion? I want to try out the druid.

Niamhgold> <<I'll paint it and work on the interior>>: We don't need no steening interior. If it looks too good, no on e will believe we did it ourselves.

Taleweaver> <<What do you think will be a world city in this century?>>: San Francisco; or Tokyo. Or someplace we haven't heard of yet. Oh, and it isn't this century yet.

Welcome back Mecord, and Revel.

Mrs. Morgan> <<Now we're trying to think of good scenes to do for next year!>>: The banquet from Awakening. Could be good at the entrance, with the dogs and other little touches on the tables and floors. (I've seen a rather good version of the Prancing Pony Inn.)

Lexy> <<don't want to have to re-write EVERYTHING>>: Then copy and paste.

Niamhgold> <<If anyone's interested in seeing two of the pieces I did>>: Sure.

Sev. Jr.> <<dread no 2 words in the English language more than these: "Research paper">>: I am so glad we don't get those in engineering. Though we do get labs and obscene amounts of homework.

Archwolf> bad luck: What? Were you in on the Kennedy assassination in a previous life? That's some bad karma. May you have a quick recovery none the less.
<<my post should NOT read "Warpmind sniffs...>>: How do you know he didn't?

Winterwolf> <<Gside is playing a sorceress>>: Yeah, Perky is nice, but Binky will get angry if you forget him. Though he can't do much yet as an inexperienced necro.

Welcome Ana.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, August 18, 2000 03:13:00 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*starts to run over and give ArchWolf an exhubrant greeting. Seeing his conditions, Katara stops, and just gives him a soft pat on the shoulder. Canyon strides over to to WarFrost, and touchs noses with him in greeting*

Welcome back ArchWolf. Where you been buddy? What the heck have you been doing to yourself? I hope the other guy looks worse than you do. :-)

GXB> Happy B-day to you man! Congrats on making it through another year! Hope you have tons more in the future.

Doug > Good Lord Man! I'm glad that you are okay, other than a banged up knee. You and your co-workers have my prayers. I'm sure that it was a night that left you rather shaken up.

Caliope > Welcome back to the "REAL WORLD"! lol. You have been missed. Hope everything is going well in you RL.

*quickly casts an illusion spell over ArchWolf and WarFrost, hiding their presence in the CR.

*Silver Hunter > Sorry man. Can't help you. Haven't seen anyone or anything fitting that description. Good luck in your search.

Mercord > Welcome back! It's about time you got your arse back in here! LOL

Geez! Finally done reading all the posts! It only took me 2 hours this time! Time for me to get down to 'real' business now. Good thing I'm off tomorrow. Instead of having to get up at 5am to get ready for work, I can sleep in till 7, and yell from my bed it's time for my daughter to get out of bed and get ready for school! LOL I'm such a slug-a-bed! Nighterz all!

*Kat quickly switches into a bikini & board shorts, grabs her board, and goes out to surf the web. =p
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:29:09 AM
IP: spider-th081.proxy.aol.com

Hey from the boonies of Ca!
Now that the Gathering is coming relatively close to home, I've been reading all your schpeils on G2 and I realized; I may know the way to LA but I will be completely LOST once I get there. I've heard all your tales but what really goes on behind the scenes, and what do I need to know so that I wont be eaten alive by the experts?!?

Somebody throw me a lifeline! Feel free to e-mail ANY help.

Prepare me now or I'll never last in the big city!

Thanks a billion,
Ana
Ana - [anasatis@hotmail.com]
CA
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:29:05 AM
IP: 1cust82.tnt2.hemet.ca.da.uu.net

**Winterwolf slips in to post**

I can't believe I still have work to do. **sigh** Being paged to fix things in the middle of the night is just evil. I'm taking a break. The problem can wait. Let me see what's going on in the CR.

Apologies to Lynne Like and Brooklyn. I'm a little delinquent at the moment with emailing/posting but I haven't forgotten about either of you and will rectify the situation soon!

G2K pictures> I have my own batch that will be ready soon and I'd like to thank everyone that has put up their pictures. It was great to see it all again! :)

Caliope> OMG! ^_^ Welcome back! **HUGZ** I missed you! Of course we want you back, don't be ridiculous! I've had to post more often to represent the color purple but now that you're back - **The color balance of the CR shifts** I really should get some more sleep. All these silly things I talk about. ;) So what have you been doing?

Warpmind> <uniques> With a few exceptions I think several uniques are a waste of time. Most characters will prefer high quality rare items to unique ones. <travel> You forgot the style and comfort of the pet carrying case. You could go in full costume and have baggage personnel stare in disbelief. :)

Shadowrider> I look forward to the email and I'm happy to know you will be around here a while longer. <paladin> Now this is just my thoughts but I wouldn't overdo it with thorns. Later on many enemies attack with magic, arrows or spears which thorns is useless against. I liked the Holy Freeze aura of the Paladin. It slowed everything in range to 1/3 speed and attack. It also made the bodies shatter a useful side effect with all the shamans that resurrect monsters. You just need to find out what works for you. <Diablo II> As for the mix. Gside is playing a sorceress. Warpmind is playing a Necromancer. I was playing a sorceress. I need to get back to her. So IMO there aren't a lot of sorceress and necromancers in here. :D

Niamhgold> <work> I know what you mean even though I haven't been experiencing the fun of self imposed work lately. <email> Going with the running Greg joke. He gets asked each year if we scared him off yet. I guess I haven't scared you off yet with all my emails. ^_^

Mandolin> <L.A. Talespin con> Wow! There's a Talespin con? That would be interesting to take a peek at. I liked that show myself. :)

Silver Hunter> Welcome to the TGS CR! Are you a friend of Mecord? Or perhaps one of his dormant personalities? Asking about a werewolf that eat elves just seemed too coincidental. ;)

Mecord> Welcome back! You've been missed! Look forward to hearing what you've been up to.

Revel> Good to see you again. A warm welcome back to you! <work> There is something to be said about being able to end a job just like that. **snaps his fingers**

DPH> I'm just playing it safe really. Also it makes it easier since the RP has been short ones of late. I'll make some time to check egroups and reply tomorrow.

Aaron> Welcome back! Thanks to you and Christine Morgan I'm having an easier time writing up my own account of the con. :)

Christine> Thank you! It'll be great to see it again!

Lexy> Cool! More memories of the whole event. :D

Niamhgold> I have a story for you about how I was expecting your artwork at G2K. I'll tell you later.

Archwolf> Ouch! I wish you a quick and speedy recovery.

******WARNING - BFTS RP******

Jason Filler who had remained quiet up until this point spoke up. "DPH let me go with you. I would be interested in meeting this guy."

DPH answers. "I really need to talk with him privately first."

Jason notices the fierce gleam in DPH's eyes and agrees. "Alright. I do need time to practice anyway."

Winterwolf says, "Tomorrow night pick a place of your choosing and open this bag." Winterwolf hands the bag to DPH.

******END WARNING - BFTS RP******

Good night!

**Winterwolf gets ready to get back to the grind**
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Friday, August 18, 2000 02:18:11 AM
IP: 206.15.120.148

See, these PK's are really cookin my brain....
my post should NOT read "Warpmind sniffs...*,it should be "WarFrost sniffs..."

Out

Archwolf
Friday, August 18, 2000 01:28:03 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-38.mcmurray.nb.net

*Archwolf stumbles in, leaning on his cane, looking at a prescription bottle of pain killers* Gah! I hate these things.

Shadowrider, WinterWolf, NiamGold, Gside, Warpmind> Thanks all for the welcome back...as for what I did....well, i seem to be getting injured a lot more easily of late...I racked up both hips and took a good couple gashes (one of which may scar) In a rapier duel last weekend. What did I learn from it: I can't hip toss to save my life. Strange thing...I won the duel, but I got banged up most. *Shrug* oh well. Fell down a flight of stairs night before last too.

*Sees Silver Hunter's post and begins to edge his way to the cr door, trying (and failing) to look innocent. Warpmind sniffs the post and yaps in pleased recognition* OH! Hey, Mecord! Welcome back (and I did refrain from eating any more elves) Show me the fic!

*Sighs and looks back at the bottle* Well, off to dope myself up...God above, I hate these things...

Shade and Sweet water

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Friday, August 18, 2000 01:24:49 AM
IP: pumpkin-a-38.mcmurray.nb.net

Because I'm just full of useless information.....it's time for some more Entertainmen News!!! ;P

Star Wars 2--Maybe it is, maybe it isn't: There are reports now on the net that an Australian newspaper has staged something of a coup and discovered the name for the second SW film. The paper claims that the film's full title is: "Star Wars Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire". However, almost as soon as this story broke, hundreds....nay, thousands, of Star Wars internet geeks who, like me, has nothing better to do with their time, refuted that, claiming that it was NOT the title. Lucas' people haven't said that it was, so maybe it isn't. Much ado about nothing, huh?
What you folks don't know is that, I have my OWN spies within the ranks of the film's crew. The actual title for the next prequel is:
Star Wars 2: The Quickening!

Okay, that was a lame Highlander joke. Sorry....I just saw a kickass commercial for the next Highlander flick. It actually looks like they did it right this time. I have no idea what the SW title could be. Probably Episode 2: Here Comes the Ewoks! or some nonsense like that.

In other Entertainment News, Harry Potter has been cast! Young 13 yr. old actor Gabriel Thomson has been cast as Harold Potter, Boy Wizard. Yes, he's British. The only thing I know that he's done is a BBC production of "Great Expectations". If you want to see what the little devil-worshipper looks like (joke, my Pagan friends! ;), CLICK ON MY NAME.
I LIKE this kid. Look at that picture! He's wearing a hat with pot on it! Wacky tobaccy, ganja, weed! He looks like the posterchild for High Times magazine. Does this mean Harry will be toking it up in the movie? God I hope so. Suddenly Harry Potter appeals to me now.
I've heard that the author J.K. Rowlings planned this as a new direction for Harry. Now that he's a teenager, he's going to be "experimenting". In fact, I've heard that the title for the next book will be "Harry Potter 5: Snootchie Bootchies and the Chronic Blunt". Jay and Silent Bob are scheduled to have cameos.

Also, in other news, Matt Groening is making hints that a Simpsons movie may be in the works. A word of caution: If you're gonna make the movie, maybe it'd be wise to put a little more effort into the actual show itself. This past season didn't exactly grab me by the short hairs, bub.

And finally, in Star Trek Voyager news, it's been let slip by Katherine Mulgrew that in this, the last season of Voyager, the ship will be returning home....but not everyone's going to make it alive. A member of the cast will be getting the "Tasha Yar / Jadzia Dax" treatment.
Personally, and I think this would have made the show better, they should have killed off EVERYONE. Everyone on that damned ship. Except Jeri Ryan. Well.....no, in fact, all we need of her is those breasts. Now, you change the format of the show to Jeri Ryan's breasts, just roaming around the galaxy and getting into all sorts of wacky situations, and by God, the ratings will come *pouring* in.

Politics: I think the problem with this election year is exactly that nobody is satisfied with the candidates. I mean, look at the last two elections--at least one party, the Democrats, were pleased with their candidate. Democrats loved Clinton (still do), and were able to get excited about him. This election, both parties look around and say "This the best we can do???" And, collectively, the nation just looks at Bush and Gore and give out a great big "Blecch". The only reason that I have any excitement over this election is that it's the first presidential election I'll actually be able to vote in. I was too young in the last one.

Doug: I know an obscene amount of useless, but highly entertaining, Elvis trivia. Nowadays, when people think of The King, they think of a fat guy with mutton chop sideburns in a sequined jumpsuit. They don't know the King. Elvis was one of the most bizarre and disturbed men of the 20th century, and I find myself morbidly fascinated by him. Maybe one day I'll tell you about the Hamburger James story. It's my favorite Elvis story ever. It's got everything you could want--drugs, theft, and best of all, Elvis pretending to be a federal law enforcement agent! ;)
And congratulations on becoming a rent-a-cop! Just joking. Security guys have a tough break. I can't even imagine what it's like to do security at Wal-Mart....no offense, but for some reason I can't exactly see that company devoting much to their security division. Sounds like you've experience a couple of real headaches. You're a lot braver than I am. I'd never want to work a standard security job like that. It would be nice for the experience and to help hone some of the basic skills necessary for law enforcement, but the way the store itself disadvanteges you is brutal. They don't even let you have cuffs! If some bad stuff went down, you'd have to call in the quote-unquote "real cops". Now me, Johnny NRA, I'd want to be packing heat. Never know when that little old blue-haired lady in aisle 4 might shove some "Dr. Thunder" soft drinks into her purse. ;]

Robby: College really isn't that bad, actually. Even though I love my time off from higher education, I've actually had a lot of fun in college, especially in my major classes. It's the tests and homework that's stressful. By the end of your first semester, you will come to dread no 2 words in the English language more than these: "Research paper".

Sevarius Jr. - [<-----Click here to see a pic of Harry "Snootchie Bootchies" Potter!]
Friday, August 18, 2000 12:16:01 AM
IP: cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

** Niamhgold comes in for a quickie **

Ah-ha! For those of you who wondered and were expecting my artwork at G2K...seems I just got the package "return to shipper" today ^o^ I *knew* the pieces never got there, because I sent them out wicked late (my fault, stupid Niamhgold!). Anywho, it's kind of a good thing, so that I can make prints for next year and have a large showing in next year's art show. If anyone's interested in seeing two of the pieces I did--don't worry, I don't *expect* anyone to be ;)--, just ask (since I'll be borrowing the digital camera from work). My fave's the "Gargoyles World Map", cause that sucker took a good three months!

Lexy/Aaron: On a related note, thanks for sharing your accounts at G2K! Man, I'm _so_ going to go next year! And I'm gonna drag Warpmind with me!

Mec: Whooooooooo!!!!!!!! Mec, you're back, after such a long time! ** Hugz ** I think *everyone* in here has been worried/wondering about you! :D

Revel: Welcome back, as well! It's the end-of-the-summer Re-gathering!

Adios ;)
Niamhgold - [niamhgold@hotmail.com]
Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:05:43 PM
IP: lac-flex205.ncia.net

*enters*

I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got my new comics today!!!! :))))))) *dances around the room happily throwing flowers everywhere* ^_^

*calms down* ok, sorry about that. ;) The new comics I got are called "Morning Glory the Faery". It's such a cool series!!! It's about a little faery named Morning Glory who goes and lives with a Pagan lady named Katherine. Glory is the last of her tribe from the Old World and she has a teensie weensie itsy bitsy problem. If her human friend does not have sex, Glory will wither and die. Think I'll leave it at that incase you guys have already heard of it. If not, just ask me to tell the rest of the story and why Morning Glory needs Katherine to have sex...;P
Mary Flanders
Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:51:02 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

<just lurking>
daphne, apprentice-wordsmith
Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:22:19 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.211.9.philadelphia1.level3.net

Christine- Amen!

Aaron- WHAT?? GREG actually OFFERED to say who Lex's mate was?? *was away with Kaioto cuz he was feeling ill* THAT..THAT OOOOOOOOOH He is such a tease!! *growls* And Shame on Thom for not diving at that chance!;) Boy..would it have been a hoot had I been there! *L* I'm sure Greg was a little shocked with a high pitched fan girl didnt scream "YESS HE DOES!! HE is just too choked up to answer!!!" ^_^V
Lexy
Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:05:40 PM
IP: spider-tm013.proxy.aol.com

**part of my post about the Gathering that got erased on me yesterday *growls*

Take two:P I am going to skip all the stuff I had written before about how I got there and whatnot. Sorry to shorten this...but I am tired and don't want to have to re-write EVERYTHING *is so pouty since last night* darnit..darnit

After Kaioto, Marisato and myself frist arrived at the hotel we found out that check in wasn't until 4pm. It was around 12 at the time so we had a lot of time to kill. The first thing that I wanted to do was to get my art/autograph stuff out of my luggage, and into the art room. That way, I decided, it wouldn't be destroyed. On the way to the art room we passed Christine and Becca. After she had passed us I said allowed, "There goes Christine Morgan." just so Marisato would know who that was. She's like, "WHAT?? Where where!?" *L* I am so evil. After hauling my painting and a few other items all the way to the art room (it was quite a way away from the front desk) Kaioto consulted the schedual *sp!*, and informed me that Thom's lecture was not only already in progress, but almost DONE with! I rumagged *SP* through my gargoyles backpack, and then handed Marisato my tape recorder. I told her to get as much of it as she could. Kaioto and I rushed to the art room, and filled out what was needed. By the time I got to Thom's lecture room he was already dismissing everyone *poutspouts*! He handed out some pictures of his dogs to the audience, and then stayed to chat with some ppl. (take pictures..etc.) I asked Marisa how the tape went, and we listened to it. Unfortunately Thom was so amusing that the audience was laughing the entire time so that it was hard to hear anything. *pouts again* I walked up front, and waited patiently to be noticed. When he was through speaking with some woman he noticed me and gave me a big hug saying, "LEXY there you are. I was looking for you." I nodded and gave my lame excuse as to why I wasn't THE FIRST person at this lecture not to mention in the front row. *pouts* We talked a bit about Nazca and his tattoos and he assured me that he had plenty more pictures to go around, and would give me some later. After that was over, Kaioto, Morisato and myself went into the next room. This room I will call the "Candy Room". Anyone who attended _knows_ what room I am talking about. We sat there watching ppl get hopped up and way toooo many sweets until opening ceremonies started. At one point Greg and his family walked in, sat down, and searched a bit for any remaining ice cream. He noticed me and said hi politely, and Kaioto gave a friendly nod. After Greg and his family had left I poked Marisato's arm and said, "There goes Greg." She got miffed at me for the second time that day;) "Thats just _great_. I'm missing _everyone!"

*skips time period's*

The art show was awesome! So MUCH TALENT packed into such a small room! Crazy Demona's print of "Sailor Gargs" drew a lot of "oooohs and ahh's". My friend, who is a big SM fan, wanted to buy it, but decided to wait and see how high it would go. We left it alone for a while, and when we got back Benny (Greg's son) had bid on it. *grins* So Marisato and I both agreed that it was wonderful to see such a young fan of both Gargs and SM. We also agreed that it would be a sin to outbid a child. So we left it. We were absolutely shocked later to find that _someone_ had bid over Benny. We decided to pool our money to purchase it for him. But we were told that it already had well over the limit on bids, and would go to the auction. Then we felt horrible. Now Greg would have to bid over 20 to get that pic. *kicks self* Later on that night both Benny and Erin drew pics of Sailor moon. One sailor garg and one regular. They were SOO CUTE!! Both well done too! These guys had attention to the little details. (like her broach for example). Anyway, Morisato asked me if they were up for bids. I said that I didn't really know..but what the heck. Worth a shot! So we both bid 10 dollars a piece. Another piece of art I liked was "Lazy Friends" by Satana (sp?). But it was also over its limit of bids..and went to auction.
The Costume contest was equally surprising. I suppressed the evil/annoying urge to go up to some contestants and say, "Thats a great, great costume" *g*
The auction..oh the auction. Man how much did we raise?? It had to be close to 2g? I would be surprised if not. The money went to the Make a Wish foundation. So the more the better. I regret that I do not remember the name of the girl who attended on behalf of this foundation. It was her wish to go to a Gathering. *wipes a tear* she said that she had a great time. I met her later at the airport (since I was 10 hours delayed!!) along with Crazy D. and Kythera. She said that she had an awesome time and was DEFIANTLY (this is how she said it) coming back next year:). BOY talk about stuff!! We had like four FULL tables. Were talking BIG LONG tables! Where did the staff FIND all this stuff? Geez. I sat through that WHOLE THING. It lasted like 3 or more hours. Lots and LOTS of great stuff! Greg and co.. didn't stay for the entire event. During the earlier faze of it, however, Greg, Greg, Vic and Thom stayed to watch a bit. Everyone was pretty much waiting for episode 18 to go up for bid. Thats right..all three parts to the script PLUS the story boards *drooooools* We started out at 100 and bid at ..well we were supposed to be bidding in increments of 5..but for THIS item we sorta cheated. We sorta _had_ to or we'd be there alllll day. The final bid was ..ah *is blanking* Ok it was something like 830..850..ya know. I'm sure Christine wrote it..or someone anyway. Anyhoo, it was just PRICELESS watching Greg and the others as that dollar amount went up and up and up AND UP. At one point, I believe somewhere around 700, Greg W. got up out of his seat he was so excited *grins* It was so great. I myself picked up a poster with the writing cast's sig's on it. I fought with someone over this one pic of Goliath framed with some script at the bottom. It was a hot item. It got to only 8 dollars over what I had. I knew that Kaioto would let me barrow the money if I asked him, but he had left the room for a sec, and I didn't want to just start bidding without asking..so I let it go *pouts*. He later scolded me saying I should know what is his is mine. But really, the other person would have just kept going I'm sure. And it would have left me with no cash for Disney World *sighs* so maybe it is for the best. Finally we came to the art show items. "Lazy friends" came up at my high bid of 15. Ppl began to bid and bid. It went over what I could pay for it so I let it alone. The auctioneer went up to like 30 or so dollars and then called "Going once...Going twice- Then Kaioto burst in and yelled "Forty!". *blushes* my sweet Kai-chan! He wanted me to have that pic because he knows I love animals so much;) And the pic was of Cagny (SP!!) and Bronx taking a snooze together;) SO CUTE! ^-^ When the "Sailor Gargs" print came up at 20, Greg instantly bid 21. No one in that room said a WORD. Ya *laughs* Sure..someone thought they were such a BIG person to bid over a child! But nobody messed with the man! Much later on, the art show director asked Benny and Erin if they would like to sell their art work, (Greg figured it would be better coming from someone else) and they both agreed:) I was very happy about that considering how things had turned out. Now, in a way, I could pay Greg back!:)
Right before the big dinner there was a large storm that knocked all the power out. Surprisingly, it was out for over an hour. We waited outside the dinning room until they decided they would have to light a _lot_of candles. While everyone waited to eat, the staff came over, and handed out tickets. Since we had four guests this year they had decided to draw tickets out of a basket to see who would get to sit with each celeb. Little Becca got to draw the tickets. I probably yelled a little too loud when they called out _my_ number (4005) *dies* Not only did my number get drawn..but it got drawn for Thom's table! I ran into the room and found his table to be right in front of the door. Not only that..but there..right between Christine Morgan and Thom..was a glowing..empty..chair. I swear I heard angelic music playing from somewhere as I sat down ^_^V! SCORE!! *calms down* That was sooo SOOO GREAT!! Well anyway. I had a great dinner + conversation with Christine, Thom and the others at the table..*gee* but mostly Thom!! He is real animal person *smiles* I love animal ppl. They are hard to find where I live. Ppl all think I'm just nuts they way I love my pets (friends) *shrugs* He told me that he had recently taken in a female cat. She kept walking around his place so he fed her. So she kept coming back, and she got along well with his dogs..so he thought what the heck. He got her fixed right away. To his surprise he woke up about 4 weeks later to the sound of four kittens in his closet. He called up the vet and was like, "What? Did you get a phone call during surgery, and forget to remove her uterus??" He took her back in..and you know..that cat had FOUR of um! 0_o
I also learned that Thom likes chocolate! *g* After dinner, Greg and the others went up to the front of the room for Q&A. Nobody had any questions right off, so I decided to get things rolling. I raised my hand to ask my traditional question.
**Dialog** Greg: "Yes, Lexy."
Me: "Do you think you could tell us about Lex's future girl friend..er..mate..please?"
Everyone: (Laughing)
Greg: "No."
*poutspouts* *g* hey can't blame a girl for trying..againandagainandagain..can ya? ^_^v
After a bunch of other Q's I noticed that some ppl were asking more then one question. Last year, I believe, it was one per customer. So I gave it a shot. I raised my hand to ask Greg weather it was a coincidence or not that Xanatos and Elisa both looked like their voice actors.
**Dialog** Greg: "Lexy."
Me: "Ah, Can yo-"
Greg: "No, I will not tell you who Lexington's future mate will be."
Everyone: (Laughing)
Me: "No *laughs*
Greg: "It's you Lexy." (O_o)!

Well How about that answer!!? And all this time I've been posting and posting in Ask Greg. Gee.>;)
Well anyway. He did tell me that Xanatos' look was a coinqudink but that Elisa's was not. They actually loved Sally's *sp?* ethnic background, and had her sign a paper stating that they could use that for the character. They also took pictures of her ,and sent them to Japan for the animators to copy. Cool ha?

hmm I am getting tired..and I gots to get up early. I think I will just post this and post a second half later;) BYEBYE
Lexy
Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:00:17 PM
IP: spider-tm013.proxy.aol.com

ED - Thanks for the little bit about how the British might respond to a cattle-headed gargoyle. (I wonder if they'd make similar comments about Taurus if he showed up in London :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, August 17, 2000 07:08:00 PM
IP: 216.87.46.193.dialup-stl.primary.net

Been a while, and I don't have much to say ... haven't felt the real need to come in here. (some people know privately why ... please keep it so)

Just one quickie, though ...

Aaron, re: con report: That explains why Mara forgot to give me the tape she was gonna loan me ... ah well.

Folks who may be interested ... clicky my name link ... a little premature, maybe, but just know it's in the works. ;)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, August 17, 2000 06:35:42 PM
IP: 216.28.101.106

Me again ...

Aaron > love the con report! Thanks for sharing it! And we Morgans don't mind at all being a collective entity ... as long as I get to be the Borg Queen! ; ) Anti-Alinora faction ... sheesh ... that poor elfmaid!

Christine
Thursday, August 17, 2000 06:06:41 PM
IP: 14-098.009.popsite.net

cherry blossom > showing them my essay might be worth a try; it worked for Ashlee! Then again, the previous ones didn't have quite so much talk about the hunks ... LOL. Anyway, if they ever want to converse with someone about the con in hopes of convincing them we're not that bad, I'm always willing!

Doug > ugh, rough time at work! It's always kind of weird to hear stories like that, when I'm working in a for-goshsakes mental health facility and things rarely get that difficult! (though admittedly, this week's been a wowser, with one of the guys unleashing a torrent of obscenity at his voices that went on about four hours and contained epithets that made even my hair singe!). Best of luck sticking with it!

Kit > I am looking forward to seeing you both at the con, and your book should be arriving soon!

Winterwolf / Niahmgold > I'll get Tim to snap a pic of the diorama with his digital camera this weekend and post it. Now we're trying to think of good scenes to do for next year!

Lexy > and you know, if it ever does happen to be that Greg's plan with Mary and Finella does coincide with mine, oh how I'll _laugh_ ... I'm so glad you like Aiden, though by now Thom's really got to be wondering ... if that man ever gets online, maybe we can make him read the stories!

Warpmind > I didn't know you were anti-yahoo, oh well! Did you and Tim connect over your order? I think he already sent the book, so it'll be there whenever the mail allows.

Survivor > I LOVE this show ... the elements of sadistic psychological tweaking, esp. in the form of the reward challenges, are just too good! I wouldn't want to _be_ on the show (though Tim sent in his application for S2 in the Outback, goodness help him!), but I would enjoy working for them! Now that it's down to the final four, I expect Sue and Kellie to go out in a bitter fireball and it'll come down to Rich and Rudy. Rich is my absolute favorite; he _deserves_ to win if it was based solely on how well you play the game, but with it depending on a vote, I figure they won't let him have it. Because Rudy, though he's a crusty old bastard, has at least been up-front about it right from day one. He basically doesn't like anybody and has made no effort to pretend otherwise. Rich, on the other hand, is a conniving devious manipulator (this is why I love him), and everyone on the tribal jury is likely to hold that against him. Even though he's been just as up-front about that as Rudy ... but that's something about which people tend to be a little less forgiving. And Sean ... this guy is a _neurologist_? Now, does anyone else think that the show isn't exactly going to help his practice? I mean, who'd go to this guy for brain surgery when he's come across to America as a rather clueless, though good-hearted, dolt?

New episode > congrats to the TGS team on getting the new season underway! Keep up the good work!

Update > I'm finally getting caught up, and have begun work on the new Guardians story (the Sisterhood is back, it's blood and fire and steel in the 10th century, yay!). Will be posting some new pics this weekend, too. And calling a lawyer tonight about this whole ugly hairball of a mess with my ex-agent and so-called publisher, what joy ...

Jannie > hope you continue to feel better! Our thoughts have all been with you!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, August 17, 2000 06:02:14 PM
IP: 14-098.009.popsite.net

I'm baaaaaaaaaack! Between piled-up work and Juno cutting off our connection, this's the first chance I've had to get in here. But before I go any further...

(Moment of silence for Alec Guinness, Mr. Genuine Class himself)

And now, Aaron's G2K ramble, replies to follow. Thanks to Christine for posting hers first, and thus helping me to keep this a bit more coherant.

Aug 3.

Spent the day packing, congratulating myself on not forgetting anything. About halfway to Houston, I remembered the spray-on black hair color. Sigh. BTW, wandering around Texas (or Florida)in a trenchcoat in august will get you some weird looks. Finally got to Orlando about an hour after I was supposed to and got to the hotel around midnight. Met some other fans hanging out in the lobby, including Demona May, Jessie Feff, Heather Rice, Winterwolf, Dark Horse, Kythera (I think), and some other people whose names I didn't catch.

Around then Crzy showed up and we talked for a bit, tho' I have no idea what we talked about. Except when she asked what she was going to do with me, and I replied "Well, it involves jello." Which means, 1. I'd stayed up just a wee bit too late, and 2., if you can ID which ep of MST3K that quote is from, you too have no life.

Heather and Jessie went off to slip a mash note under Thom's door, and Heather tried to drag me along, but I escaped by slipping, MacBeth-like, out of my coat. Which was a bad idea, and I had to go rescue my coat.

When I got back, Jenna and Mike had turned up, so I showed them where the room was, we talked for a while, and that was it for day one.

Aug 4. Overslept a bit, then went and registered. Checked out the dealer's room and art show. Picked up two cool new shirts. (Well three, counting the G2K con shirt) One from Jenna with a pic of Demona and the slogan Aaron's #1 fan, and one of Crzy's Evil shouldn't look this good shirts. Thanks guys. Wandered around meeting up with a few more familair faces, Starsinger, Wanderer, Jubilee, Lexy & Kai, Hudson, GB, Coyote, The Morgans (Y'all are a collective entity now. Sorry) and some others I'd never met before IRL, like Vig (he of the hat), Bud-Clare, XenaTrek, Mandi, Spacebabie, and Mara.

Had lunch with Jenna, Mike, and some of Clan Steelclaw, and then hustled back for Christine's reading, and scored a copy of her new book, (Which is on top of my ever-growing Pile Of Things To Read)

Opening Ceremonies. Jalapena! Mara tried to get me to enter the jalapeno eating contest, but I declined. Just 'cause I'm from Texas doesn't mean I can handle the spicy stuff.

After dinner, we came back to the find everyone watching Starship Troopers, which is probably a cool show, but I would've been totally lost on the continuity, and nobody else seemed up for it, so a group of us commandeered the now-empty video room and watched eps 31-4 of Revolutionary Girl Utena, thoughtfully provided by Mara. Much MiSTing ensued. Met a nice guy whose name I disremember (I'm so bad with names)in the lobby, and he, Mara, and I went off for an activity promptly dubbed "Taking the baby hunting" We found the tattoo and piercing place up the road, but it was closed. We eventually ended up back at Denny's, where we spotted Greg & co. And by then it was really late, so I dragged myself back to my room where I discovered that the extra blanket I'd asked for never arrived. However, trenchcoats make perfectly serviceable blankets. Another point in their favor.

Aug 5.

Radio Play day. I opted not to try for the radio play this year, though I might have gotten in again. Not a brag, they were just really short on male volunteers. Poor Hudson got volunteered by Jubilee.

So, while everyone else went to audition, I headed over to Win Xanatos' Money, hosted by the lovely and talented Siryn as Fox. (Having borrowed Mara's wig) And, despite some stiff competition, I won, thanks to my lucky coat. (Jen, if this's an annual thing, can I defend my title in LA?)

Got a pic of me as Koz with Dennis, and ran into Thom while waiting for the radio play to open. Thom showed off some of his tattoos. He's got five now. And just think, at G99 he was "thinking about getting one." (As I look at some of these pictures, I cringe. When will I learn to comb my hair before photo ops?)

The radio play kicked @$$! And that's all I can say about it, or Greg will use his Illuminati connections to have me killed.

Then it was time to for the dinner/masquerade. I had to get ready early, because I was coloring my hair. I'd just finished letting the dye set and gotten in the shower to rinse it out when the power went out. So here I am, naked, wet, and totally blind. This is my life folks. This is how it usually works.

Fortunatly, the power came back on halfway through dinner. We had an abbreviated Q & A session. Of which I was glad, because if there was another one, I missed it. Lexy asked her favorite question, which Greg wouldn't answer. (Tho' he would later say "It's you, Lexy. It's you.") So I asked my favorite question, which Greg passed off to Thom, Greg G., and Vic, who said No, Maybe, and Not if they don't want to, respectively. The other best answer was when asked if there was an ep they would've liked to see, Greg G. said "The all-polka episode." Thom's response was "The one where Lex gets the girl." When asked what girl, Thom grinned and said, "Demona." Thom's cool.

That left half an hour to get ready for the masquerade, which for me, meant a shave and strapping on the rest of my costume. Somehow I missed the no weapons rule. Oops.

Still, the coolest part of the masquerade was where I sat. Winterwolf and I grabbed two empty seats at one of the last free tables, and when I turned back around, the four judges had come up and sat down with us.

Poor Greg, the longer the show is off the air, I think the less costumes he recognizes. Hence the, "was he/she on the show?" questions the others were sending Greg's way every other entry. Although one of the best one had to be from Thom. (Looking at the contestants lining up outside) "Greg, who's the big blue guy with the red hair?"

Yes, the *one* fic character Greg can ID is Jericho. Revel in your noteriety, Christine.

Thom also created the "Orangest Hair" award for Mara and wanted to vote Tim Morgan's Owen and GB's Vogel as cutest couple.

Halfway through Greg looks at me and goes "Aaron! You have a giant Demona tattoo on your chest, don't you?" (I nod, and Greg points at Vic and Greg G) "These guys haven't seen it. Show it to them."

So here I am, trying to show off the tattoo, without also showing off the fact that I have a very real-looking model Glock under my left arm, and under the right... Well, you know that gun that Jen's posing with? That's mine. I had that through the whole masquerade. Trenchcoats are truly wonderful things.

One of these days, I have to invest in a real camera, because a bunch of my pics of the masquerade kinda suck. Which is too bad, because there were some really great costumes this year. Still, got a pair of pretty good ones with Crzy as Frank and Demona, and one with Pogo, doing a little cross-ficverse face off. Pogo: "I've got a sword, he's got a gun. He's gonna kill me." Thanks again for the pics.

In one of the weirder manifestations of the Gargoyle fandom collective unconscious, Tim Morgan and I, after dying our hair, (blonde and black, respectively) and shaving, (Tim's moustache and my feeble goatee) apparently look like two of Greg's (Dark Helmet voice) old college roommates.

(In other weirdness, the trollystop across from the hotel was #23, and there was a Lake Buena Vista nearby)

Aug 6.

Auction day. And, as some people here know, I love an auction. Sometimes too much. Scored some cool stuff, including one of Demona May's license plates, and one of each of Wingless' new CDs. The only downside was that, due to some inattention on my part, the piece I wanted more then anything, Aimee Major's "Demona and the Egg", (Demmie in a little leopard print outfit. Mmmmmm) was lost to me. Whoever got it, I envy you. And I was ready for an all-out bidding war too.

Wanderer came out of the audience to be the auctioneer, and was a damn good one. I hope he'll help out with next year's too.

Skipped out of the auction to attend the MA fic panel, which was more sparsely attended then I thought it would be, but was still highly entertaining. Especially GB's reaction to Mme. Destine's true identity, and the bit where Christine asked for comments, and I said "Uh, Alinora's a b!tch." getting a laugh from the anti-Alinora contingent and an eye-roll and a "Wrong panel." from Christine. I cannot wait to see if Crzy finishes that prequel to Awakenings she was talking about.

Sometime later, we were sitting around the video room, watching Shadows of the Past, when Greg comes in and asks if he can pause it for a minute. Somehow he managed to pause it right on a shot of Goliath looking horrified, drawing much laughter from the crowd. "Well, we know how Goliath feels about it!"

So Greg showed us the first two eps of 3x3 Eyes, which Greg describes as "The story of a three-eyed demon girl with a split personality, and the zombie bodyguard who loves her." and features Brigette Bako, Bill Fagerbakke, Thom,(As a huge eye-glassed, shorter then his friends, mechanical genius) cameos by Greg, and Keith David in a role that will surprise you.

Mara, me, Crzy and (I think) Kenna had great seats down front, and were MiSTing it good-naturedly. Greg took it very well tho'.

Closing ceremonies were delayed quite a bit because Greg and Co. were late getting back from dinner, during which time Hudson kept us entertained. (I'm told that there's a recording of most of his schpiel. If anyone knows where to find it, I'd be obliged)

And after closing, we watched eps three and four of 3x3 Eyes, still in MST mode. While we were setting up, Greg offered to tell us about Lex's mate if Thom wanted him to. Thom just grinned and said Lex should play the field a while longer. Greg is cruel sometimes. ;)

Aug 7. Said good-bye to all who were leaving, and headed for the Magic Kingdom, where I'd been told the villians store was. I was nearly in the door before finding out that it was at MGM instead. Sigh. When I finally got there, the place was a bit of a disappointment. I wanted Scar and Zira plushies, dangit.

The cel gallery did have three backgrounds of Notre Dame from Sanctuary and one cell of Demona and Angela from Generations. They were hidden behind the door. Ran into Jubilee and Co, and finally got my prize for winning Xanatos' money.

There's some sort of TV hall of fame in the park, with busts of some of the more prominent inductees. Ed Asner's in it, but only on one of the plaques. It was suggested that we:
A. Smuggle in a bust of Greg, and see how long it took park officials to notice, or
B. Smuggle in a mace and get pics of us pretending to be Demona in COS, with Walt's head.

And after that I had to catch a plane home.

I know I'm forgetting things and leaving things out, but it's the best I can do.

And now replies, some slightly belated.

SJ> I agree about the political convention coverage. Hell, if the networks wanna cover a convention, we just had one that'd make better TV then any political party con.

G"X"B> Hey, feel free to rant. We all need to sometimes. Liked the shrine to Demona, btw.

Jenna> Congrats on the writing gig, roomie.

Kyryn><Your childhood experiences> Words fail me. I wonder sometimes if Demona isn't right.

FS> A bunch of us singing "We are the fans" eh? I'd like to see that.

Wilek> The Dark Tower series kicks @$$! I recommend it highly. I'm just afraid King'll die before he finishes it.

GB> No, I'd say you're definately more like Allen Schezar from Escaflowne then Tenchi. Princesses, Catwomen, Extra-dimensional schoolgirls... It's all good.

SOROW> Glad you're over the flu, hope the burn gets better soon.

Winterwolf> Welcome back. You still got back before I did.

Xanathar> Only Evangelion eps 1-4 are available on DVD. The second DVD is coming in January, I believe.

Taleweaver> I dunno where it'll be, but I can tell you where the next world city *won't* be. San Antonio.

Welcome back also to Caliope and Mercord.

Finally finished. Later. I go sleep now.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, August 17, 2000 05:54:57 PM
IP: ppp-207-193-238-222.snantx.swbell.net

Welcome to the assly ... TGS CR room, Silver Hunter. Please surrender your sanity.

In addition to housing all kinds of wolves, this room is also a gathering place for the genetically different (mutants & non-humans).

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, I think both of us are trying to 2nd guess the other. I think I left enough clues about DPH's next move for you to figure out what DPH is up to. If not, I guess I am assuming too much. WInterwolf, please respond to my last post in egroups regarding date setting.
**RP RELATED**

Dang, mandatory working both Saturday and Sunday this weekend. Thank goodness work is supposed to be off Labor Day.

**MATH PUZZLE**
the square root of i = the square root of (1/2) times the sum of i and 1. Of course I do not know what the fourth root of i is. I almost solved all cubic equations once upon a time: I just got lost with all the algebra involved.
**END MATH PUZZLE**

**BFTS RP continues**
DPH thought, "Actually, my powers have not increased; instead, I have been able to more fully utilize what my abilities. Anybody who knows anything about powers oughta be able to see I have gained no new powers but just expanded on my existing ones. This makes 2 scenarios: either Winterwolf's lord is an idiot or this is a trap. Considering that creating those bracers for Winterwolf took some work and planning, the latter is true. I just need to store up enough energy in my body to create a quick portal home and try to rescue Winterwolf."

DPH, without being noticed, charged his energy levels in his body up to maximum. Then, he, without being noticed, errected a small invisible forcefield around his body without using his stored energy.

DPH said, "Take me and me alone to your Lord for a talk."
**END BFTS RP**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, August 17, 2000 05:50:59 PM
IP: max1-7.cwy.cei.net

I'm just checking in for those of you who might have been wondering where I went. Truth is my modem on my computer comitted suicide, or something. My tech support is suppose to be sending a new one but the part that really stinks is that it my not make it back in time before I return to North Texas. Oh well. The good news is I have the same roommate. ( I don't waste time breaking in a new one) Last year I went through two roommates. (Hehe)
And one final thing to add. There is nothing more sweet and satisfying in the business world than being able to say "This is my last day at work!"
Later
Revel
Thursday, August 17, 2000 04:12:10 PM
IP: 1cust162.tnt5.houston.tx.da.uu.net

Yep it's me! I'm back! Not much time right now. Just wanted to see if Archwolf is available to proofread a story I have sitting dorment in my computer.

More later!
Mecord Lein
Thursday, August 17, 2000 03:38:09 PM
IP: usr35.mtwest.net

I am the Silver Hunter. I have been hired to track down a werewolf. Since there are several here I thought this might be a good place to start looking.
I'm told he's usually acompanied by another, a direwolf perhaps.
He's wanted for questioning... concerning the disapperance of one of your number in fact. Seems he's also been implicated in the devouring of another. You see they were both elves! ;)
Silver Hunter
Thursday, August 17, 2000 03:23:58 PM
IP: usr35.mtwest.net

Speak the devil's name.... >:)
Anonymous
Thursday, August 17, 2000 03:04:26 PM
IP: usr35.mtwest.net

London/Caledonian clans>>> I agree with Taleweaver and Todd. The Caledonians are not nearly as xenophobic as they used to be before Michael and Kylie agreed to having diplomatic relations. Some of the younger Londoners have been living with the Caledonian clan and I imagine that there's been quite an exchange of ideas and philosophies going on behind the scenes.

Or so you'll discover. *goes back to whacking out Pendragon illos*
Spike
Thursday, August 17, 2000 02:29:26 PM
IP: pppt13-136.ght.iadfw.net

Todd: I’d have thought this would be fairly irrelevant to most people actually. I think that most NYC people, at least at the time of ‘THE JOURNEY’ saw gargoyles as simply monsters. Sure, the gargoyles recognised themselves by that name and so did those that knew about them: and Travis Marshall noticed the connection. But a lot of people would probably just see them as a fairly generic sort of monster in the absence of any kind of information. Maybe they’re mutated bats or something. Same with the London gargoyles. They’re big, they’re freaky and they’re scary: so they must be monsters. Still if such monsters were found, I wonder how far hysteria would take it. Would the design of the pound coin be changed to avoid accusations that the currency designers are endorsing the monsters for example? I suppose it depended how much they saw of the gargoyles. Not too much so it probably wouldn’t be a problem.

(A creativity springs to mind where a bunch of people walk past the London gargoyles probably including a gargoyle with a bovine appearance: one of the people muttering “what did I tell you about GM crops?” and the other tutting “crumbs, I didn’t know Mad Cow disease did that!”. Maybe a third adds, “I blame the French!” :))

Taleweaver: Tokyo.

Warpmind: Yes, but America also has a load of different layers to the government. But the status with the Houses is, to be honest, that the Lords controls the Commons and the Commons controls the Lords’ control over the Commons. At least, that’s how it is now. If the Commons is determined to pass a Bill, only the Queen can ultimately stop it. But that would be biting the hand that feeds her.

Kit & Winterwolf: Thanks for the WBs! :)
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Thursday, August 17, 2000 01:42:07 PM
IP: webcacheh15a.cache.pol.co.uk

Hi all,
Doing this instead of studying like I should be doing.

Pendragon> On the Caledonian point, I don't think London has left their Scottish relatives high and dry. In Darkest Hour, there were a few Londoners fighting with Brianna's clan. And in Seeds of Change they talked about some of their casualties, some from the fight in the Scottish Woods. That implies that some support from London has been getting through.

Survivor> Yeah, I've been following it. Doesn't seem like much fun on the island since the Tagi people got booted. It isn't even fun to speculate, because there are only two ways to go know. Kelly and Rudy will get the boot and it will come down to Rich or Sue. Personally, I'd rather Sue take the money. Not for any particular love for her or hate for Rich, I just would like to see the cleverest guy go home with nothing. What is fun to watch (from my misanthropic point of view) is how much everyone whines. Everyone protests way too much, how it's only a game and they'll do what they've got to do to win. And yet, feel somehow betrayed and surrounded by backstabbers. It's like they are sleeping in a viper pit and are shocked that they get bit.

Here's something to stir conversation. It was a question brought up in class. What do you think will be a world city in this century? World city is sort of like where a lot of things focus on. Like the 20th cent. it was New York. 19th cent. it was London and Paris in the 18th cent. We got into an argument over whether New York would keep the status. I think the decline has already begun. Entertainment has moved out of New York, to Hollywood and the Internet. Business has become globalized. Even culture has become watered down, both the highbrow stuff like museums and performing arts, and folk culture like immigrant communities.

So the question I put to you is where will the next world city be?
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, August 17, 2000 12:22:38 PM
IP: joepesci.engineering.csupomona.edu

Quickie from work, as usual.

Like Robby, I'm being sidetracked by work and TGS - and my N&A fanfic, "Murphy's Law," which is spiraling WAY out of my control (I got Leflin Jr. involved as well as the Eggman and Charlie, so there are subplots galore) and is finally reaching the Big Showdown (tm) with part 12.

Elections> Yeesh. I don't really like either candidate much. (Something tells me Bush is going to win this one.) I'm half tempted to vote for Nader instead, but I don't want to throw my vote away...

Robby re: college> It seriously depends WHERE you're going to college, but in my experience, college is not as bad as you'd think. (Again, it depends on where you're going.) I'm actually eager to be going back - this will be my last year at Hood - mainly because I'll be able to see the rest of the SisterHood of Evil again. I'm moving back into my dorm Wednesday, which means packing galore (gag me)!

Mary> Glad you found a college with a good creative writing program. Good luck to you! :)

G2001> Actually, my reasons for not committing JUST YET have nothing to do with the excuses Lexy cited... Forget work and school, I honestly have no idea where I'll be LIVING next summer. I might still be with my parents, sharing an apartment with Jen and Wendy in Frederick, or staying with my aunt and uncle in North Carolina... it all depends on grad schools and what's available. And if I save up enough money for a car. My problem is not that my schedule forbids going, it's that I just don't know where I'll be coming from.

Although if G2001 occurs any time near the next L.A. Talespin con, maybe I could bring Jen along with me.

Okay, my 15-minute break is up. Later...

Mandolin
Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:45:13 AM
IP: g6192.apgea.army.mil

** Niamhgold wanders in **

Hi, all! Let's have a warm welcome back for Archwolf and Caliope! ** Hugz to both **

Caliope: Of _course_ we'll have you back! ** Hugz **

Robby: <College> Aach, me too! It's definitely gonna cut down on my cyber-time. Hope you have fun, though!

Winterwolf: Got your e-mail :) ** Hugz ** I'll respond to it when I get some free time (probably tomorrrow); it was so nice! And, don't worry...work isn't as bad as my *self-imposed* work ;D Thanks for all!

Warpmind: Airmail? Whoa, make sure you punch some holes in the box if you do that :) Between you and cherry-blossom, who's probably gonna come to G2001 *as* a gorrilla, you two will be enough fuel for the Nat'l Inquirer for a few months! (Of course, don't be surprised to see my face plastered on the news for, say, walking across America on stilts :)

Random note: I love those Coverna Direct commercials :)

cherry blossom: If I go to G2001, you probably wouldn't want your mom to see *me* decked out in costume garb, either :) I relish a good masquerade, and I'll pull out all the stops :)

Gside & Winterwolf: Well, if Winterwolf funds the materials, and Gside constructs the plane, I'll paint it and work on the interior :) Then, of course, we'd have to take a preliminary trip over the Atlantic to pick up Warpmind, so he doesn't have to travel in a box with holes :)

Archwolf: Ouch, I can see why you've been out lately! Get well fast and soon! ** HUGGS **

Kit: Thanks for all your kind thoughts on my relationship and work details...you're so nice! ;) Youch, that situation at work sounds rough...but it'll right itself!

Doug: Much sympathy for your day at work! :( Let's hope the perp gets his just desserts...and that you never have to deal with something like that again!

Methinks that be all for now...
Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, August 17, 2000 09:48:28 AM
IP: lac-flex114.ncia.net

Greetings to everyone.

SOROW:> Ack! A burn by a shell...this is not luck, for sure...I'm sorry that you'll have a scar for it. :(

Warpmind:> Diablo II: Smash that yellow jewel? Hmmm...but won't it free Baal? Just asking...anyway, we'll see. I would like to be able to find out before I will leave, but I don't think I'll do...oh, well, I'll see sooner or later. I'd like to have more time to play...

Madame Destine (Or Patrick and Kathy):> Well, I just hope that you'll not stop writing just because of we know your true identity now. Like Kitainia said, doesn't matter who you are, but what you do, and you do very well.

Kitainia:> Work probs: well, at least you get paid for the extra work, isn't it? Don't worry, it is just a period after all...at least, it is supposed to be. See what happens in working too well? People starts expecting more and more from you...;)
Do you know what I particularily admire on you? No matter your RL troubles, you have always a nice word for everyone. :)

Jannie:> Well, I already said it maybe...but I reallt hope you'll recover soon, and that soon all your current troubles will be just a memory...

Winterwolf:> Hmm, RL is strange...and not always pleasant. As you guessed, I had no time to write yesterday (I am supposed to have no time today as well...but I stole some minutes). As for not working too hard...I assure that, with the current weather here, any work is too hard. Oh, well...
I still don't know when the party could take place (I know I'll leave in the middle of September, but until they'll not send me the card, I'll not know the day...anyway, the card is supposed to arrive these days, so I'll let you know, I promise.
Diablo II: I'll have to download the patch, seems interesting. How is life from a Paladin's VP? Not bad...Lupo Grigio is dealing very well with monsters, undeads and demons. I also tried the barbarian...good, but limited, while the amazon seems interesting. The best ability of the Paladin for me is Thorn: at the level I am currently, it reflects the 350% of the damage...if you have enough life, you can stand and see the enemies falling around you without you raising a hand. But, naturally, it's not my style...crushing each of them with a single hit of my two-handed gem-carved sword is very better...and I like the noise of the skeletons as they die...;). Am I wrong, or there's a prevalence of sorcerers/necromancers here? I, for me, trust only on my steel...to quote the Rhapsody, "I want to win between fire and steel/Fire and steel, for them all.."
Oh, I got your email. I will try to reply tonight...late afternoon for you.

Archwolf:> Hey, good to see you again.

Doug:> Hm, bad days happen sometimes...and there's little we can do about it, just face them the best way we can do. I hope your next days of work will be more tranquil. I want to add that I share what you said about the shoplifter...the justice administration system is supposed to exist to allow people who make mistakes to reform, and become good citizens. Instead, in many Western countries, the opposite seems to happen...this system seems to be done to change people who could become citizens in unreformable criminals, and it seems wrong to me. Just my opinion anyway.

I've got to go. See you all.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Thursday, August 17, 2000 09:33:29 AM
IP: h213-46-38.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, carrying the two books "Bored of the Rings" and "God Game".*
Howdy-do, guys. I got a packge today. :) Caught me entirely by surprise, it did. :)

**SPECIAL REQUEST**
Do we have any regulars from Gainesville, Florida, or in the immediate vicinity thereof here? If so, could that of our inmates please seek out Ken or Robin (I never got their last name) at the Department of Political Science at the University of Florida, and tell them that Marius got the books? :) If they're interested, I can send'em my copy of the Illuminatus Trilogy in return. :)
**REQUEST ENDED**

British Grammar: I suspect that the plural form of the British Government is directly related to the fact that there are *two* Houses of Parliament. Lords and Commons, y'know... And to quote Forrest Gump, That's all I have to say about that.

Kit: I hope to get the chance to visit the States, myself. With a few XXXL-sized portions of Luck and Lunacy, maybe next Gathering? ;) (I'm seriously considering airmail, so there's hope... depending on your point of view, that is...)

By the way... I saw an amusing Infomercial (I believe that's the proper term) recently... it went like this:
A completely stereotypical horror movie serial killer comes walking out of a house, with a hockey mask on his face, and a butcher knife and a large axe strapped to his belt. He is carrying two large garbage sacks.
"Some of you people seem to think we homicidal maniacs are totally inconsiderate, evil beings. That's not entirely true. We also..."
He dumps the sacks into a garbage container marked "Organic waste", and slams the lid shut.
"...Recycle. You should recycle, too!"
Then there was a voice over, saying "Recycle. If not, we won't be responsible for the consequences..."

Archwolf: MAN! What have you gotten yourself into? You look like you've performed an internal analysis of a printing press! Get better, that's an order! ;)

Gside: The joke would be "East. Always... to the East." ;) And the main problem I had with taking Diablo was that I didn't have much health naturally; I needed to get my stash from my corpse, and when I did... *ZZZZAAAAAPPPP* Try again... :( (My stash increased my Health by about 150-200 HPs, so...)

Winterwolf: Yeah, he dropped some stash; a couple of Unique items, such stuff. Didn't find it all that useful; I'd rather keep the stash I had... And send my LUGGAGE to LA for the next Gathering? Heck, I'll send MYSELF to the next Gathering, if I find that to be the cheapest way. If it turns out I'll have to send myself disguised as a corpse, in a coffin, to get it there on time, I'll do so. (Could make an awesome entrance, though...)

Welcome back, Caliope. Place wasn't entirely the same without you. :)

Well, that's it for now. Ciao.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 17, 2000 09:07:56 AM
IP: mp-217-204-245.daxnet.no

* Lil Cali Cat come wandering back home*

I`m sorry I`ve been away so long guys!!!! Wont you take me back?!!?!?!? I promis I`ll be a good Kitty!!! Really!!!!

Ok?! Ok?! Bye!!!! *Cali Cat HUGZ all and waits for reply :P*
Caliope
Thursday, August 17, 2000 07:40:50 AM
IP: 136.145.174.38

The square root of i math puzzle:

sqrt(i) = (sqrt(2)/2)(1+i)

I can show you the math later. :P

Parents and G2001 > Maybe showing one's parents the pics of everyone from the Masquerade first is not the best way to make an initial favorable impression. We all look rather normal and harmless the rest of the time, though. :P
Patrick Toman
Thursday, August 17, 2000 07:09:04 AM
IP: ac873b81.ipt.aol.com

**Winterwolf jumps into view for his daily post**

Hi guys! I guess this will be short since there hasn't been much activity today.

Warpmind> Did the big D drop any extra special items? I heard he does but haven't gotten anything good myself. :( <luggage dilemma> If you want you can ship it COD to the Fox LA office. I don't know what will become of it but it will be in LA! ;)

Diablo II> The latest patch 1.03 from Blizzard has reduced the effectiveness of the Necromancer and the Barbarian. This has weakened the favorites Corpse Explosion and Whirlwind. The Sorceress had spell text fixed. Static field now correctly says 25% not 33%. The amazon was improved. The piercing skill now works well with Immolation and Freezing arrows. One paladin skill was weakened. I think it was conversion. That covers the all changes. :)

SOROW> I forgot to say this last time - Congratulations on joining an Explorer Post!! May the scar heal completely and quickly too!

Jannie> **Hugz** May you regain your strength soon.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky> Happy Birthday a day early!! May you enjoy many more! I look forward to the upcoming Pendragon episodes.

Kit> Thanks for the warm welcome! Don't despair, I imagine you won't be pulling double shifts for too long. It isn't cost effective you know. The extra cash should be a welcome addition although the extra hours tend to drag on. Well if it makes you feel any better I have another 11 hour work day today so at least you can know that you are not alone or the only "lucky" one! At least that coworker has been removed. I find it can be so much worse if you have to correct someone else's work rather than just having more work to take care of.

Lynne Like> <scholarship> Wonderful! Give Bryant an extra pat on the back for me! He deserves praise for all the hard work he must have put in. <1st grade> Now you have Tommy ready to make his parents proud! :) <email> I got your email. I didn't get to respond earlier but I'll be sure to send you a reply soon ^_^

DPH> Okay let the dialog run its course. :)

Mary> Good Luck! I hope you get what you want. Hayward will be lucky to have you!

Brooklyn> Long time no see! Glad I caught you online tonight! I'll be putting up Episode 3 very soon! :) <question> I say post it. It makes life easier for you and the readers IMO.

Cherry blossom> Did you let her read Christine Morgan's essay? I think that gives a much more stable view of what happens that a few pictures of the costume contest. <approach> How about the Simpson kids approach. Keep asking until your mom caves. Maybe that will that work?

Archwolf> This may sound dumb. Did I miss something? I remember you mentioning that you had arthritis in you knees but you seem to be a little worse off than that. Hope you feel better soon and Welcome back!

Gside> <plane> Excellent! I'll spring for gas money! Translation - I'll expense it. ;)

Fire Storm and Lady Mystic> I'm very happy with the selected pictures. You both deserve hearty congratulations on a job well done. An extra special cheer for Lady Mystic for doing so much work to get us new pictures. When do you estimate the pictures will be ready for use?

******WARNING - BFTS RP is monitored by an unknown force******

Winterwolf looked into DPH's eyes and answered, "Actually my lord has changed his mind about you. Your power has increased greatly. I can feel that you are capable of more powerful magical attacks than before. Your ability has increased perhaps a 100 fold or more. My lord wishes to see you as you may be of use to him and it is my duty to set up an audience for you to meet him. To show his good faith he asks that you pick the meeting place tomorrow night. Will you meet with him?"

DPH studies Winterwolf a moment before replying.

******END WARNING - BFTS RP******

Niamhgold and Shadowrider> I guess RL was keeping you two busy today. Don't work to hard! That's my job! ;)

Shadowrider> Did you figure when you'd like to hold the We'll miss you while you are in MS party? <Diablo II> Also how is the life of a Paladin? I played one for a while myself. It was interesting but the call of the sorceress was too great for me. I'm also interested in trying the Necro and Amazon if I ever have the time. I haven't played at all so far in the month of August. :(

Doug> I hope you don't have to deal with too many interesting shifts like your most recent one.

Well it is time for me to sleep for 3 hours then I'm off to work. Good night!

**Winterwolf leaves the CR to visit the land of NOD**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Thursday, August 17, 2000 03:39:29 AM
IP: ip-111-8-13.nyc.navipath.net

SJ: Man, talk about stuff I did not want to know about Elvis. :) Thanks for mentioning it just the same.

Thanks to Todd, Spike, Kyryn, and the rest of the TGS Staff for their excellent Pendragon season opener. Which I will give more comments on in my real big post this Friday.

For now, I want to tell everyone in here about a couple of episodes that happened on my job tonight. I know not everyone may want to hear about them, but I just have to tell as many of my friends what happened as I can. Hopefully you will all understand why after you've read what occurred. :)

As all in here should know by now, I've recently become a security guard at the local Super Wal-Mart here in Austin. It's an interesting job with good experience and pay as a reward, I like it a lot. So far it's been pretty easy too with only a minimum of infuriating experiences. Today, though, really took the cake as one of those days that make a person wake up to the reality of their job. The reason behind this particular awakening- shoplifters. Today we had to deal with all kinds of shoplifters.

Episode 1- At around 7:15 I'm called to come up to the front by assistant manager Senon (who's a prick most of the time, but you can respect him too because sometimes his jerkness comes in handy- like the time he threatened a lady with having her car towed over the PA system if she didn't get her car out of the fire lane RIGHT NOW. :) He's one of those hard-boiled guys who's seen too much of the wrong stuff, and nervous as hell, too). Anyway, he wanted me to stay there a while and watch a woman standing out by the soda machines with a stroller. He wouldn't say what it was about at first, but eventually he told me there had been a shoplifter doing a snatch and grab who had escaped, but the woman had been seen with her. Now we were keeping an eye on the woman. I watched her for about twenty minutes, then had to go take care of an illegally parked car in the handicapped area, and while I was gone Senon (who was still outside) saw a car pull up and the woman approach it. She took something out of her stroller and put it in the car, the driver of it waved and smiled at Senon while he took the license plate, and then they jetted away while our suspect went back into the store. I cruised the parking lot in my security cart searching for the car once I heard it had been there, but it was gone of course. I immediately began to get suspicous that we had a gang of boosters (professional shoplifters) working the store and started watching for them as much as I could outside. Around 8, the woman was seen heading for the store's bus stop, so I was told to jet over there and watch her, make sure she left in no vehicle other than the bus. While watching the lady, I learned she did indeed have a baby in the stroller but not much else. An Austin Police Department Officer arrived and questioned her before the bus came, thankfully- it was inconclusive, but he did end up taking her driver's license and she got banned from all Wal-mart properties because of suspicion of criminal trespass. Needless to say this pissed her off something fierce, but nothing happened over it. She got in a car that had pulled up and it drove off, APD left. Now here comes the clincher-

About five minutes after the APD guy let the woman go, and I had resumed my rounds, I was stopped and confronted by another woman who claimed she was our suspect's aunt and was demanding to know what her niece had been charged with. I told her what I knew (which wasn't much, I didn't even overhear the police interrogating Sholondra Buckley- the suspect- though I did observe it from nearby), and then sent her on her way. When she got into a different car than the one we'd seen Ms. Buckley getting into at the bus stop after the police got done with her after talking to me, I immediately thought she had to have been part of the booster ring too and went to tell store management. On the way, I was confronted by four women- Ms. Buckley, her aunt, an irate lawyer type named Carla, and one other- who claimed Ms. Buckley had been falsely accused of shoplifting and they wanted to speak to the manager NOW. I called him down and watched as they had it out, it got pretty ugly but fortunately didn't degenerate into more than harsh words. Eventually the women were made to understand the store's policy on suspected shoplifters, and they left. I hope they don't pursue a court case over the matter, but they did threaten one, using logic as their argument- Ms. Buckley couldn't have been a thief if she stuck around the property as long as she did and made these accusations of false detainment. I support that view, and feel she did a great job of denying all accusations with the proper mood, but still given the suspicious behavior Senon observed (and I do trust the guy despite him being a jerk and all), I ain't sure. In any case, it doesn't matter, we'll probably never see her again.

Episode 2 was the big one. About an hour after the whole Ms. Buckley affair, 9:55 pm to be exact, Customer Service Manager Esther spotted a young black male putting two cartons of smokes inside his backpack in the store. I was given a description and told to watch for him if he came out- they'd warn me. I watch, until around 10:08 when I hear on my radio somebody asking Asst. Mgr. Oscar to call APD. I figure correctly that they caught the guy shoplifting inside. I patrol at ease for ten minutes, and then am called to come inside to the manager's office because the guy is being unruly and poor Senon (who's with him) can't take it anymore. I get in there, and he's cussing everybody out, grabbing stuff and throwing it around, being a total pain in the butt. I try to calm him down, reason with him, tell him he's only making it worse, and it doesn't work at all. Senon, who's getting pissed off by the whole experience, asks me to cuff the bad guy but I can't because we don't carry cuffs. So I'm ordered out because APD just got here and I have to lead them in. I do so (it's the same officer who questioned Ms. Buckley interestingly enough) and wait outside the office in case I'm needed while the APD guy goes in. I listen at the partially closed door as he confronts the guy and then hear curses and roars of anger, followed by the noise of a fight, stuff getting knocked down, and so on. I want to rush in and help, but I'm paralyzed by fear of it all (sometimes I get that way in combat) and besides CSM Esther and Senon are between me and the fight along with the door. Meanwhile the APD Officer hits the panic button and I hear sirens outside, whereupon I rush out on Esther's orders to lead in the additional officers coming. I trip and skin my knee in my rush, but am not hurt. There ends up being six cop cars- two cops apiece-, EMS guys in an ambulance, and briefly a fire engine (they always show up at emergencies in this city, fire or no) on the premises- the cops subdue the bad guy with pepper spray, cuff him, and escort him off the premises. The first officer who arrived was injured- hit in the arm with a mop handle the guy grabbed, but he didn't hurt anybody else, thank goodness. It panicked me and scared us all something fierce, let me tell you. He was still struggling and cussing when they led him out of the store, frightening all observers. Turned out the guy had a record, and he was probably on drugs too. <shakes head> My God, what a day.

My shift ended right after the last experience, thank goodness, so I went home and relaxed a while. Time with Kit and Deus Ex got me calmed down from it all, but after what happened, I hope you all understand why I had to tell you. Days like this don't happen often, I've only had this job two weeks and this is really a major experience. <shakes head> Needless to say, I am praying for everyone involved in these experiences, especially the latter one. The store employees, the customers who witnessed it, Senon and Esther, the friendly store manager Freddy (who was around when it all went down and saw it all though he didn't get directly involved), the cops who were in there (particularly the guy who got hurt), me...and especially the perp himself. Yeah, I know he may be the type who deserves all the bad stuff coming to him, but I'm just the kind of person who feels for guys like this sometimes, no matter what. <shrugs> Maybe it's cause I was a shoplifter myself long ago in my teen years. After the first time I got caught and was made to realize and understand the consequences of the deeds, I reformed (haven't stolen a thing since, unless you count Kit's heart :) and became a changed man- it was taken off my record too due to my mom paying the store for the item taken- but still the experience haunts me and they probably will for life. It's partly because of the experience that I am the good responsible honest person I am today. That's why I pray the bad guy we had to deal with tonight somehow is motivated to clean up his act and become someone similar. I doubt it will happen, but I hope. I hope you all will pray for him too, and for all us who have to get over this. The people who suffered from the events detailed in Ep 1 too. <shakes head> Let me say it again- Man, what a day. :)

There, I've gotten it out. Not my first experience of action by any means, but still one so significant that I just have to tell as many people about it as possible. Particularly my friends, including y'all in here. :) Now that I've done it, I'm very tired. So I'll be going to sleep now. See you all again very soon with a much longer post that will hopefully just detail normal experiences. :) Night.
Doug
Thursday, August 17, 2000 03:02:23 AM
IP: pool-207-205-149-210.dlls.grid.net

Worked a little on my java random garg generator, but dang it, why were magical jeweled weapons allowed. That makes it so much uglier.

Winterwolf> <<I'm sure Gside could make us a plane if we needed one!>>: Well, I will be living over an aerospace engineer next year, so the only problem should be materials. But we could probably poach those from the engineering building.
<>: Doh. I should be better than this, but I do have a couple explanations. I seem to have been trianed only to have to think about comments since my last post or a Great Ongoing Discussion. Also, by putting us in one thought, Lexy tricked me into thinking it was about something we said to each other. My brain must have been off, but that's no surprise anyway.

Happy birthday Janine.

Warpmind> <>: Odd, he was one of the easiest for me (especially once I learned how to dodge his red lightning inferno). Maybe that says something about sorceresses versus necromancers.
<<the Golf stream goes eastward>>: There's a joke in there somewhere, but I can't see it.

Happy birthday (in anticipation), GXB.

Kitainia> <<<laughs long and hard at Diablo character names> I have to check that game out now>>: But remember, these names are solely the product of my twisted little mind. However, it should be quite easy to come up with other such amusing combinations of names and characters. Ooh, just thought of a good barbarian name: Wally. For William Wallace.

DPH> <<nteresting enough, (i+1)^2 = 2i>>: That makes sense, if you calculate the lengths of the vectors.

Fire Storm> <<Just checking. This room is WAY too dead tonight>>: Then say something.

Robby> <<College. Joy. I'm excited about this>>: Why not? Half the time you get to electronically kill your roomies, the other half you will be asleep (hopefully you'll have comfy chairs, it's hard to get any rest in molded plastic).

Welcome back, Archwolf.

Seventy five files. Over four hours of music. To celebrate, I give you a rather long song, and quite good. It's The Drinking Song (Bargainville version) by Moxy Früvous (from Toronto).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, August 17, 2000 01:57:12 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*archwolf hobbles in slowly, leaning heavily on a cane. Several bandages, braces, and icepacks cover parts of his body, from mid-chest, to hips and knees. His eyes have a rather dull, vacant cast to them. Warfrost folows slowly, keping a worried eye on archwolf*

Hey all....sorry i've not been around in a while.
For everyone who has left and returned> Goodluck/ Welcome back
For those needing it: Get Better soon!
For those who have: Glad to hear you are gettin better.

Gathering 2K>Glad everyone had a good time...maybe things will work out and I can attend G'01.

*looks around the CR* WinterWolf is right...Mec ain't been around in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNG while...anyone got his em addy?

*Sighs and turns to head out, thinking he may go read Pendragon. As he gets to the CR door, he decides he just doesn't have the drive for it.*

*Turns and says* A note: Pain killers and booze don't mix...even 2 or three hours apart, sometimes.

*Leaves, softly singing 'Fade to black'*

Archwolf - [archwolf@collegeclub.com]
Thursday, August 17, 2000 01:45:37 AM
IP: pumpkin-b-30.mcmurray.nb.net

I have one comment,

Lexy< You KNOW my mother! She took one look at the G2K pictures and said, there is no way you are going to that thing, those people look freaky. Yeah, this is my mother saying this amazingly.. ;) Then she heard it was in LA and she's like, "I don't care if Lexy says you're going, you're not! Do you know how many lanes of traffic there are?! I've been out there.." "Do you know this and this and this??" *crosses her eyes and sticks out her tongue* Its going to be easier to turn myself into a gorilla than to get my butt into LA in time for G21. >.<

and that ends my comment.. ;)
cherry blossom
Thursday, August 17, 2000 12:59:38 AM
IP: stpa-ras1-3-cs-8.dial.bright.net

Work and writing for TGS still keeping me busy. Oh well... (I'll see about doing some proper posting and RPing this weekend tho...)

And in another week and a half, I begin the grand journey known as... College. Joy. I'm excited about this. Honest. I mean it. (Note dripping sarcasm.) I couldn't want to go to college any less... Er...

Elections- Oh geez.. I'm old enough to vote this time around. ANd I don't like any of the choices. Hmm. I suppose I'll vote Bush just cause I don't really care for Gore or his running mate... That failing, I'll vote independant... (Pikachu for president! Yah!)

SJ- Joxter the mighty as the Lizard? Well, that could be... Interesting... I wonder how our resident Joxter feels about that?

Ah well, in any event, I should try and get some more work done before I go to bed... Laters...

In any event, I'm sorry about keeping so durn quiet, I'm just so durn busy!
Robby
Thursday, August 17, 2000 12:46:56 AM
IP: spider-tp044.proxy.aol.com

No RP tonight. Cause I'm morning the loss of the King.

That's right folks. I'm surprised there wasn't more coverage of this in the news....instead they focused on that silly presidential election and those Russian sailors trapped at the bottom of the ocean (Gee, Russia, we could have maybe saved their asses if you had just let us--ANYONE--help you out before now.). That's not the real story, folks. The real news story is this: Elvis is STILL dead.
23 years ago today, the King of Rock N' Roll died on his throne (quite literally). It's important to remember. I love the King. He knew how to live.

For instance, here's a brief Elvis FAQ. Did you know:
*That at the time of Elvis's death, his colon--terribly impacted--weighed a good 40 lbs.?
*That at the time of Elvis' death, his stomach looked like a miniature pharmacy (some of the more notable drugs found in his system were demerol and codeine)
*That at one point in his life, Elvis owned a monkey named Scatter? He did. And what a sad life it led. Perhaps I should tell you about the time Elvis got mad at it and hit it with a pool cue....
*That Elvis would take pills to sleep, then uppers to keep him awake. The result was occasional fits of narcolepsy. Unfortunately, they frequently happened when Elvis was eating--which he liked to do a lot--so that members of his Memphis Mafia literally had to reach down his throat and pluck out anything that Elvis was eating at the time so that he wouldn't choke to death on it.
*That Elvis once filled his bathtub with hundreds of photographer's flash bulbs and shot at them with a BB gun because, when hit, the flash bulbs would...well, flash.
*That Elvis once dated one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, Natalie Wood, but when the relationship ended after a brief tenure, Elvis, upon questioned why he had broken up with the actress, would give a graphic, crude description of what advertisers now call "the feminine odor".

Ah, Elvis. We will miss you.

SURVIVOR update: Well, "castaway" Sean was booted off the island this week, in the show's next-to-last episode. Thank God. Sean has to be, without a doubt, the *dumbest* member of that tribe. This is the moron who, instead of fishing or finding other food or doing something productive, decided to build a bowling alley on the beach. Did anyone see last week's episode, with his father? God, his father seemed as dumb as the son (I'm sorry, but the man was asked point blank what was going on in the news, and he said--"I don't know....everything's really fine...." Thanks, pops! Of course, both he and Sean had downed quite a bit of wine, so both were pretty lit). So Gillig--I mean Sean....was voted off, and the final four are: Kelly, Susan, Rudy, and my man, Big Gay Richard. Ironically enough, these four were the "Tagi Alliance" who systemically eliminated...well, everyone else on the show. Next week's show is the 2 hour long finale, and I can't wait.
Part of me wants Rudy to win, but my favorite is still Rich...although I think people still hate him too much. Maybe Kelly could pull it off.....since she's starting to look pretty cute now.....I've been watching this show too long.

BIG BROTHER update: I know that nobody really watches this show....heck, I don't watch it often. But tonight, Karen, the 40ish mom, was voted off this week (or "banished" as they call it). I'm sorry to see her go, because the woman is just fascinating to watch because she's totally mental. Every minute she's talking about her husband, how he doesn't love her, how she's going to divorce him.....all on national TV. Then they showed her husband, who had written this poem for her, and he read it, and it was the most bizarre, disturbing goddamned piece of poetry I've ever heard. I calm down from my usual manic nature for a moment because I can actually sit back, look at these people, and say with some degree of sick satisfaction, "These people are more f***ed up than I am."

Kitiana: I knew that about Lieberman. I'm a Republican, so it's almost a forgone conclusion that I'm just going to vote for Bush and Dick. And I suppose that my comments are thus a bit biased. But even if I was a Democrat? I'd quite possibly vote against Gore just because of Lieberman. I'm religious; I'm technically a Christian, although not a very good one. But Lieberman is a guy who's religious in the bad way, I think. He's one of these people who thinks that they need to save the children from immorality by banning everything that could even remotely be considered offensive. He wants to "clean up" Hollywood, the music industry (and in that regard, he'll go along well with Tipper Gore. Thanks to her all my CDs have "parental advisory" labels on the cover), the radio industry, video games....in essence, he's for censorship, specifically for movies like the Matrix or video games like Doom. That's why I think it's somewhat hypocritical of the Hollywood players to praise him and throw their money towards him when he's one of the leading individuals who wants to censor them. I mean, maybe I'm shallow. I do take notice of both candidate's take on the issues, and how each one would handle them. But even if I agreed with Gore and Lieberman's take on the issues.....I don't know, maybe I'm shallow, maybe I'm still just young and jaded, but even if I totally agreed with Al Gore's politics, I'd think very sersiouly about voting against him because of Lieberman. The point has been made that the Republicans would be no better when it comes to policing entertainment; after all Bill Bennett, who is a Repub, was working with Lieberman in their little censorship project. But the thing is--I don't know for a fact that Bush or Dick have a hard-on for censoring stuff, but I DO know that Lieberman does (and so, to an extent, might Al Gore, since he IS married to Tipper, who is no big fan of certain constitutional rights herself).
As for Gore.....I think of him as an opportunist. Back when he was a senator, he was a LOT more "conservative". One of the big things was that he himself was Pro-Life! Then Bubba Cliton (and no, I didn't accidentally leave off the "n". I'm making a racy social commentary on our President's amorous exploits) comes along, and suddenly Al is Johnny Democrat, pulling the liberal line. Ultimately, I don't know if I can blame him for this, though. Politics is all about opportunism, after all.

My Dog: He's a smooth-haired fox terrier, for the record. He's primarily white, with black spots. Maybe I'll scan in a picture of him. He's pretty tiny, as far as dogs go, but he's the bravest SOB I've ever seen. He's not content to just chase squirrels around the neighborhood, he has to atagonize other dogs. I mean it, he's a damn bully! He purposefully picks on larger dogs, dogs two or three times as big as himself. I was walking him a couple months ago, and he sees a dog in a fenced in yard. He runs over to it...and they start sniffing each other snout-to-snout through the fence. My dog proceeds to lift his leg and piss IN THE DOG'S FACE. It wasn't accidental, he meant it. I love him, but he's a terror at times. Terribly rude to his fellow canines. ;)

Finally, some entertainment news!!

Rising Star Goodness: More of an update on the super cool news that J. Michael Straczynski will be adapting his uber-cool comic series "Rising Stars" for the screen. Not only will he write the screenplay, but the film rights have been bought by MGM. And they're looking to make it a trilogy instead of one film. Which is perfect, because JMS has planned the series as a 3-arc story, with 8 issues to an arc.

And finally, a few more Spider-Man casting news bits:
*William H. Macy may get the role of J. Jonah Jameson (PLEASE give this to R. Lee Ermey!)
*Brian Dennehy is up for the role of Uncle Ben. (I can see this. Dennehy seems like a guy who could be the fatherly uncle to Peter. Except he did play John Wayne Gacy once in a TV movie. Kinda taints the whole things)
*Bob Hoskins may land the part of Dr. Octopus / Otto Octavius. (Don't know how to feel about this. Hoskins is a good actor, but not the first guy I'd think of as Doc Ock......And let's be honest, Doc Ock's body double, Elton John, would be horrible in the role....so I guess I can go with this).
*And Ted Raimi, Sam the director's little bro (aka Joxter, the Mighty!!!;), has been cast, but now word out is that his role is none other than that of Kurt Connor....aka the Lizard)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, August 17, 2000 12:23:54 AM
IP: cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Testing, testing...

Just checking. This room is WAY too dead tonight!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:39:29 PM
IP: 02-111.008.popsite.net

Thanks to all about my battle wound, but it will unfortunately scar. I'm more embarrassed than anything.
SOROW
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 09:28:07 PM
IP: dll2a010-0416.splitrock.net

Hi guys
Quick responses.
<Emambu>
Please do that!I look forward to hearing from you!
<Winterwolf>
Welcome back!
<Gargoyles:Dublin>
Question do you think I should post my stories or construct a mailing list so as soon as the story is proofed I just send it to readers? Those who are following the series will get eps quicker this way! Tell me what you think!

Gotta jet! See ya!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 06:38:39 PM
IP: usr57.cqc.com

One thing that I've occasionally wondered, I will admit; would the London gargoyles be recognized, if the humans were to find out about them, as being the same sort of "critters" as the New York gargoyles? After all, they look significantly different from Goliath's clan (feathered wings, features like talking animals) - many humans might have as much difficulty realizing that they're the same species as a visitor from another planet might have in recognizing that a chihuahua and a St. Bernard are the same kind of animal. (Unless, of course, somebody sees the London gargoyles turning to stone at dawn....)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 06:27:00 PM
IP: 216.87.46.227.dialup-stl.primary.net

Kit>thanks. ^_^ I definitly plan to take revenge on those who wronged me by being a success. >:) Especially since then I can say to them, "Nyah nyah nyah NAYH nyah!" ;P

Urgh...woke up at 11am this morning and still kinda groggy. Anyway...

My dad and I have been searching through all the near by colleges trying to find the one with the best creative writing program and I think the best one so far is California State University, Hayward. Interestingly enough, my mom grew up in Hayward and when she was ready to go to college, she ran away screaming from it. ;P The people were stupid, the plans for the girls' futures were stupid and she was getting really tired of seeing the Hell's Angels over at the hotdog place that was across the street from the library. O.o

Also, and intersting thing about my mom: after she graduated from Berkley (majored in U.S. History back in the 60's) she went to the same college for more education (on something I can't remember) at the SAME college the Black Panthers went to just about a year or two before. She even took African American Literature and the majority black folks in the class wanted her and the other few white students to get out because they said they felt oppressed by them. O.o

So I just might end up going to Hayward. I hope I can get in and have classes that I'll like since none of the other colleges I've seen have what I want. :P

talk to ya guys later!

*gone*
Mary
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 06:11:03 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Hmm.

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, I hope you understand my character's responses. Interestingly enough, this situation will add depth to my character.
**END RP RELATED**

**MATH PUZZLE**
Interesting enough, (i+1)^2 = 2i.
**END MATH PUZZLE**

**WORK RELATED**
I guess it is true. If you are one step removed from doing a job, you have no business writing directions for how to do the job. Once again, there is no common sense. ISO Certification means everybody has read the book, but what if the book is useless?
**END WORK RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues while being monitored by an unknown force**
DPH could not hardly believe his ears. Winterwolf did a 180 degree turn from his previous position on sharing information. DPH thought to himself, "This does not seem right. Why would Winterwolf do a 180 degree turn from where he was? What could have promped such a change? My gut just does not feel right about this. I will have to test this Winterwolf. For all I know, the real Winterwolf could be kidnapped, and NCA & company are trying to get me to show my hand." DPH decided to lie to Winterwolf about all his strategies for dealing with NCA.

DPH asked Winterwolf, "Before we start, what prompted your change of heart? I want the full truth."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 05:48:27 PM
IP: max1-72.cwy.cei.net

Hi y'all!

Gside: <<<my father got excited when he saw one actually flying with a cicada>>> LOL sounds like me when I saw a tarantula wasp dragging a HUGE tarantula up the side of a well house! And my husband when he was on the riding lawnmower yelling "Tarantula! Tarantula!" And all of us (me, Tommy & Bryant) running up the driveway to have a looksee. Was a big male--we scooted him off into the woods(he all the time raising his front legs up at us) so as not to be run over. Yeah, we're all nature freaks here...Now, I haven't seen a cicada killer with a cicada, but last week when I was walking the dogs at night I kept hearing a flutter on the ground (it's DARK out here), so I shined the flashlight in the direction and saw a toad trying to eat one. The cicada was nearly as big as the toad! I've had those fly down my shirt before (sure way to make me dance around like an insane person). Oh, that's right I'm already insane... :D
Reminds me, I saw a bumper sticker at the mall I want for my schoolbus. Says "You say Psychotic like it's something bad". I'd like for the parents to see that one! *g* (they'd call the bus barn..."About that lady that drives # 43"...)

Xanathar & Winterwolf: Linda IS cool! She qualifies as WW in my book. :)

Bryant (my 17 yr old) has won a scholarship for being in the top 10% of his class! He's so excited, and I'm SO proud!! His dad is buying him a pickup as a gift! And Tommy started 1st grade today :*-)

'bye...

Lynne

Lynne Like - [mjlike@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 02:14:14 PM
IP: fw1.directlink.net

**RP TIME**

In his office in the Underground City, Kovu hangs up a telephone and then looks across the desk at Tiara with a frown. "Abdullah has ordered that we keep the humans under surveillance. If they get too close to something they shouldn't find, we have them killed." Tiara growls angrily. "That is not acceptable! Several caiveh have already been seriously injured, and one is dead, because of those humans! And he just wants us to watch them! Is he mad? I ought to hold him responsible for the injuries too. After all, he did send the genie!" "Actually, one of his minions did," Kovu corrects. "An insane sorcerer named Jazeem. Abdullah didn't know it would cause so much damage, nor that there would be a dragon available to battle it. Really, Tiara, we must remember that Abdullah is the one human who sees our kind in the proper way. One day, he will make us kings and rulers of the world above, he has promised us that." "And I often doubt he will keep that promise," she shakes her head in reply. "While we wait for him to fulfill it, he threatens to destroy our city in a nuclear holocaust if we do not have our people make for him chemicals that poison us with their very fumes." "You forget the wealth we make from those chemicals," Kovu smiles. "As for the bomb, well, we both know there isn't one. It's just a bluff to make the bleeding hearts like Vincent cooperate with Abdullah and thus his plans for us." "Are you sure about that?" Tiara frowns. "Almost completely," Kovu grins back. "Besides, what does it matter if there is a bomb? It's not like you and I would be able to do anything about it. I'm too greedy for the power and wealth Abdullah's promised us, and you're too afraid of him." "I am not afraid of anything!" Tiara snarls. "That human will give our people the power we deserve, and then I will kill him. You will see. The only reason I cooperate with him now is he works to our advantage. When that ends, he will stop being able to hurt us!" "Don't forget he might help you personally at the expense of others," Kovu chuckles. "In any case, I do agree with you that just watching those humans is not enough. They're going to cause trouble for both us and Abdullah if they remain alive. Therefore we should kill them while we have the chance." "I concur," Tiara smiles. "But if Terrell interferes? They are his friends." "We kill him too," Kovu shrugs. "I've been wanting to for a while. As long as the assassins are masked and we conduct this like what the humans call a black op, there shouldn't be any problems. Gather those who would serve us in this capacity, the other thirty-five caiveh who know of our relationship with Abdullah, and the rewards he can bring to us. You and I will lead them ourselves against the humans and Terrell." "I'm looking forward to it," Tiara grins, then turns and walks out. Kovu watches her go with a smile and a purr.

The screen changes to the living room of Terrell's house, where the caiveh warrior is sitting with Mist, Gubio, and Erin. They have been telling the huge female caiveh Annabelle (cyber-cookie to anyone who can point out where I got her name) the RP story so far, and she is nodding now as they come to an end. "That all sounds terrible," she shakes her head. "And Vincent's refusing to help? This isn't like him!" "Well, we both know how frightened he is of what Abdullah might do to our city," Terrell sighs. "Therefore he must comply with the terrorist's demands." "Meanwhile he gives many of our people slow lingering deaths instead of a fast one," the fat cat-woman growls. "And here we have a chance to get us out of this living in fear, and he doesn't even want to take it! What is wrong with him?" "A lot of things, probably," Gubio says. "We can't really get into them right now. I want you to know, though, we are going to search for the bomb anyway, no matter what he says. If we find it, we will deliver you." "We'll have to search the whole city," Terrell says. "That will take time." "Glad you're at least going to help us do it," Erin grins. She then looks back at Annabelle. "Do you have the desert night for Doug? I want to get that before we begin looking." "Of course I have it," Annabelle nods, walking over to a medicine cabinet and taking out a vial of black-gold liquid. "That should be enough," she says, handing it to Erin. "He just needs to drink it. I hope it helps your friend, memory loss is always a terrible thing to suffer through. I had amnesia for a while as a cub, I know." "It should help," Erin says. "Thank you." "Yes," Gubio agrees, Mist also meowing. "Thank you very much." He smiles as Erin puts the vial away. "Now, about Abdullah and the bomb…" He is cut off as there is a loud knock on the door. Terrell gets up and opens it, admitting a grimacing Bessus. He walks in, smiles at Erin and Gubio, then holds up a Geiger counter. "Do you know how hard it was finding one of those things and then sneaking down here with it? Something's got the Isolation Patrol up in arms, and if it wasn't for my skills at stealth…" "It's our fault, Bessus," Gubio interrupts him. "We can explain. We're sorry." Erin nods. "Just thank you for bringing that device." "No problem," he shrugs. "What do you need it for anyway?" Gubio and Terrell exchange grimaces. "You better sit down."

**NEXT TIME- BESSUS'S REACTION. FOR NOW PAUSE RP**

Hi everyone. Sorry it's been so long (again), RL is still hitting me in a very bad way. Y'all remember that awful worker I told you about having to cover for last week, right? Well, the manager of the Tower Records where I work saw reason and fired him on Monday. <grins briefly> That's good, but the problem is, but someone had to take over his hours. The person who was elected was the one who complained about him being around in the first place- me. <sighs> It's good to not have someone incompetent and stupid doing a job, but still having to put twice as much time and effort just because they're not around… <shakes head> Oh well, I shouldn't whine, I can deal with it. It's aggravating, but…I can deal with it. I need the money too. <sighs again> I hope our next worker is equal to the task he's given so he can ease the burden a bit. Otherwise…<growls> Okay, enough. On to replies.

SOROW: My deepest apologies for not saying anything about your flu sooner than now, I didn't have the chance. <grimace> Know, though, that you were in my prayers and that I am very glad you got over the illness. If it made you feel like you were on your deathbed… <shakes head> Thank goodness it's over now. :) Congrats on surviving, and also on joining the Explorers. I've heard of groups like them, but never known any friends who have been in one. My brother Ray was in the Denver Guardian Angels for a while back when he lived there, but he dropped out after he found out they actually search their members for weapons of any kind (which they're not allowed to carry) and take them away before they go out on patrol. In his words, "There's just no trust! That's just wrong!" He also thought they were a bit too egotistical and high-and-mighty, even if they do do good things. Your junior police group sounds like it'd be much more to his liking. :) I hope you do well as a member of the team, and get to enjoy many interesting experiences. I'm a little surprised they actually let you carry a gun, but I'm also sure you can use it responsibly. :) Hope the wounds you got from those hot shell casings heal soon, and may you never get bullet wounds of the other sort. Please let us know how this exciting new membership turns out, okay? Doug and I both are very interested in it. :) Good luck with them, and with your school, which I'm glad is so far going well.

Winterwolf: Welcome back, I did miss you. Glad you had a good vacation in Florida, though. Sorry about the laptop, but hey, you can always get one in the future. :) Good luck being able to do it soon.

Welcome back also to Green Baron and all our other returned friends!

Christine: <grins> Something tells me I've got to read that essay. Haven't yet due to work (I barely had time for the Pendragon episode last night) but I promise you I will look it over soon. I am sure it is very interesting. Hopefully next Gathering I'll be reading about us meeting in it. <grin> Congrats on the many great experiences I'm sure you had in Orlando, and I hope that many more are ahead next year. Also am hoping our copy of Dark of the Elvenwood is on the way. :)

SJ: You remember how last week we were talking about Liebermann, right? Well, I thought I should tell you and the CR something else I recently discovered about him. I do like the guy's beliefs and the stuff Green Baron pointed out about him, but after discovering this… You remember Columbine and how violent video games and movies were blamed for making those kids who shot people there go bad? Get this- Liebermann was one of the main politicians who endorsed that view. <growls angrily> This really makes me not want to give him my vote. Never mind that he's paired with that lying power-mad scum Al Bore, who I'd never vote for in a gazillion years. This… <shakes head> One thing I've always wondered about people who have this view- what happens when they do something wrong? Do they take responsibility for it and learn from their mistakes like they should? Or do they blame something else that had nothing to do with it (it wasn't me, it was the money, it was the movies, it was the…etc)? Do we want people who do the latter in charge of our nation? I think not. <sighs> The bad thing is, we might get them. :( At least we're smart enough not to elect Buchanan, who'd be even worse. <sighs in relief>

Mary: You have Asperger's Syndrome, huh? You're not the only one I know who does. Stephanie does also, though it's in a slightly more developed form than yours. Given what I've read about the condition, I wouldn't have even known you had it from your posts until you revealed it. <smiles and shrugs> Oh well, it doesn't change our opinion of you any. You're still a wonderful person, and a great friend. A pox on anyone who thinks otherwise. <grin> Mucho congrats on being able to endure the torture given by those who have. :( Hope you someday get to enact revenge on them, particularly the best kind (success even though they tried to drag you down :).

Kyryn: You survived being raped by a stranger as a child? Wow. That's all I have to say- Wow. I've known people who have survived getting hit by trains, struck by lightning, teased and chastised mercilessly all their lives by lots of people…heck, I've survived the latter as well as a month as a street person, a suicidal crash into a tree at about fifty-five miles an hour, an all-out biker gang war, numerous motorcycle spills (there was a time when I couldn't ride one that well), being shot in the shoulder, and other things, but that… I'd give you my condolences, but you obviously don't need them. That experience happened so long ago, and you seem so over it now. :) You're a very strong person, don't ever doubt it. <grins> Congratulations on your triumph, and on becoming the person you are. You have a lot to be proud of. :)

Warpmind: What I said to Mary about Asperger's Syndrome goes for you too. Hope to see you in America sometime if you ever are able to come by. :)

Niamhgold: Well, however the relationship works out, I wish you good luck with it. :) May you make a lot of money at your jobs too while you have the chance.

Spike: Ah, another Alan Rickman villains fan. Excellent. :) <grins at what happened to 'Miss Popular'> Indeed there is justice in how she ended up. Hopefully you're not too mature to gloat.

Shadowrider: <nods> Sad things do indeed inspire more creativity sometimes. I wonder why that is. <shrugs> Oh well.

Emmabu: Like I said, glad your wound's healing. Thanks again for telling us about the interviews too. They didn't tell me much I didn't already know about what was going on up in Philly thanks to my experiences with protesters here, but still they were interesting. :) Good luck with your college days ahead.

Gside: <laughs long and hard at Diablo character names> I have to check that game out now. <grin>

Wilek: Haven't read the Dark Tower series, I'm not sure if it's good or isn't. I prefer stand-alone books to series generally. (Anita Blake, Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time, and Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan books are some exceptions.)

Katara: Glad your wrist is doing so much better. I wish you continued good luck with it, as well as the other things in your life. Sorry about the electric deregulation woes, and hope they end soon. May that never happen to us here. <fingers crossed>

Green Baron: Thanks for sharing your G2K experiences too, they sounded great. If only I could have been there to share them…<shakes head> Next year I am going to do my best.

Madame Destine (or should I say Patrick and Kathy?): I'm not surprised at your identity. <grin> The stories you put out were so great that I was wondering why I hadn't seen such a wonderful writer's work before. The style also seemed a little familiar. <grins> It doesn't matter to me who you are, it matters what you do and why you do it. And you do truly wonderful work for good reasons. Therefore I will keep enjoying it. Hope to be reading the next story soon. :)

Lynne Like: Welcome back, old friend. It's been forever! :) Good to see you again, hope you will stay a long while. Thanks for returning, and also for sharing that story of what your sister did to that punk. More power to her! <grins> Hope he will get his just deserts.

SJ again: Thanks for the Star Wars and Buffy info. The latter I'm excited about and hope it turns out great (really hoping there's no censoring this time around too like Season 3 had :). As for the former, I have to say I'm very miffed by it. I like the Stormtroopers a lot better as humans, not as clones. Sure, some of them could be clones, but all of them…? That just seems wrong to me. We already know Palpatine is a clone by the time of Return of the Jedi (for good reason), if they make all his soldiers clones too… <shakes head> It will take the humanity out of Star Wars, to say the least. Emmabu is right on the money about why it wouldn't make sense either. What the heck is the matter with Lucas? He's already reduced super-cool Darth Vader to the dull and cliched Mannequin Skywalker, and now he has to do this? What is he on? And where will it stop? Why can't that man see other people are doing just as good a job with his stories, often an even better one, than him? Don't even get me started on his plans for Boba Fett. <sighs> Oh well, I hope things will at least all turn out okay somehow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed just in case. And praying too. :( I agree with you about MTV and Robert Downey, thank the Good Lord I quit watching Ally McBeal halfway into this season. :) Good saying about dogs, and congrats to yours on surviving the fight he got into. I agree with you about the Conventions too (not that I have time to watch them with my workload, but still).

**SPOILERS FOR PENDRAGON AHEAD**
Expatriate: Can't say much about the Pendragon Season 3 opener that Airwalker, Graymonk, and Ed haven't said already (BTW, welcome back to all three of you. Your excellent and in-depth commentary on stories has been greatly missed :), but I do want to mention a few things. The story was short and I felt it lacked much of the conflicting introspection and dialogue necessary for good character development, but I still thought it was a good ep. It had a very intriguing, if a bit linear and convenient at times, plot, and nice developments on what's going on with Arthur, Emrys, etc. I agree with what Airwalker and Graymonk said about Griff and the London Clan, as well as Colin and the police- such developments as they proposed could have made for great conflict- but what was done is good too. Also enjoyed the new character antagonists (Braddock and company), and look forward to what will be done with them. What was done by the government regarding the Unseelie War miffs me for reasons the trio mentioned above have already pointed out, but as long as the discrepancies are pointed out and get dealt with sometime in the future (as they should be, and not just for the sake of interesting stories IMO), it will be okay. Really liked the developments on Morrigan in this ep, and on Morgana too, if she's involved. Hope to see her coming back into the picture soon, and also Jennifer Camford. Not to mention Lucy, Caspian, Rosalind, Brianna, and all the other interesting characters who have been left out. Kudos to Spike on another good illustration. Overall I give the episode 8/10, it had some downsides but was still a nice beginning. Hope that episodes in the future will be equally good if not more. Also looking forward to how the London Clan's relationship with the city's humans will be dealt with if it is handled this season, and their relationship with the Caledonian Clan. I don't have to tell you I expect as many intriguing conflicts as Airwalker does to arise from both. :)
**PENDRAGON SPOILERS END**

Lexy: You don't have to yell at me about the next Gathering. I am going to do my best to make it no matter what. Doug is too. :) Thanks nevertheless for your encouragement, I'm sure others need it. :) Hope to see you and them in Los Angeles next summer. <grin>

Lady Mystic: Thanks for posting the list of pics that made the cut. Hope Doug and I get the chance to take a look at it soon so we can appeal for any that didn't make it which we liked. <sighs> Work is taking up so much time of ours.

Happy Birthday Friday to GXB!!! <kills Binky the Clown so you'll have no problems, then gives appropriate cyber-gift> There, just in case I don't get to say it to you Friday, I have now. :)

And that's about all for this post. Sorry I can't stick around and say more, but I've taken enough time already. Have to be at work by 2:30 and I'm not even dressed yet. <sighs> Good luck to everyone in their lives' trials, and may I find you well and triumphant over them when I return. :) Later!!!

**BACK TO MORE RP ACTION**

In his office overlooking southern Atlanta, Ted Turner smiles as he watches Asil on a monitor. Kitainia's clone sits in her cell with her head in her hands, looking like she has given in to despair. Turner chuckles, knowing that this is exactly what he wants. "Soon the emotional pain will break her," he grins, "and then she will be mine." "We oughta put Whedon in there next," chuckles the man seated across from him, who happens to be Jamie Kellner, the executive programming director for WB. "Maybe after a few days inside he'd be able to see reason and start caring more about pleasing the concerned parents and our advertisers with his shows instead of all those idiot teenagers who watch. It's hard enough getting him to apply the appropriate censors as it is. All our other shows are wonderfully full of nothing but angst and comic romantic entanglement, with the occasional danger that quickly passes, fully appropriate for our audience, but his shows…" "Ixnay!" Turner interrupts. "I know your opinion, Jamie. I also know your tendency to overreact. I remember all too well what you did to those Season 3 episodes of Buffy, Earshot and Graduation Parts 2." "Those violent bloodbaths," Kellner growls. "If I'd had my way, they would have never been shown, but no, we had to listen to the fans! Now people will be trying to turn themselves into giant snakes, cafeteria workers will be poisoning food, students will be trying to kill themselves with high-powered rifles and shooting at politicians with flamethrowers and bows and arrows, all because of what they saw on TV!" "You and the people at Toon Disney who won't show Deadly Force think alike," Turner grins. "Yeah," Kellner nods. "We're both equally sensible. Never mind how good writing is- if it doesn't meet the standards of political correctness and censorship, it should be axed!" He slams a fist into an open palm, and Turner shakes his head. "Don't worry, my friend. When you, I, and the others rule the world in the name of Lord Gothmenes, we won't have to worry about people like Whedon anymore, or anyone else who'd be problematic. We'll be able to show mindless angst-filled politically correct programming of stereotyping shows like Jamie Foxx, Young Americans, 7th Heaven, Captain Planet, and so on all day every day. And there'll be nothing else on, so the people will have to watch them!"

The two villains share a cruel laugh, causing someone small and white who is watching them through a security camera to shake his head, grimacing. "This is not good," he declares, looking at them and then at the cage bars around him. "This is not good at all." "What's that, Brain?" asks the other white mouse standing next to the figure asks. "Poit!" "I said it wasn't good, Pinky!" Brain snaps. "Look into the monitor yourself for awhile and you'll agree. Ted Turner, the man who once thwarted one of our plans to take over the world and turned it to his advantage, is now poised to do the very thing we have tried and failed to do for so long." "Egad, Brain!" Pinky gasps. "That's terrible! No, wait, wouldn't he do a better job ruling the world than we would?" Brain glares at him. "Obviously you weren't listening to the conversation Turner and that other person were having just now. Nor have you watched the other meetings between them and others that I have monitored." "Should I have watched them, Brain?" Pinky frowns. "Narf!" Brain rolls his eyes. "I'm not even sure you would have understood them if you had," he grimaces. The mouse then picks up his paper-clip/lockpick and starts opening their cage. "Come, Pinky. It is time to do something." "What are we going to do, Brain?" "The same thing we'll be doing every night for the foreseeable future, even putting aside our own plans to do it. What is decent, Pinky, what is right. Taking our vengeance on Ted Turner by stopping him from taking over the world!" Pinky squeals in delight and as the two mice jump out of their cage, the screen goes blank.

**THEY'RE PINKY, THEY'RE PINKY AND THE BRAIN…. :) WE'LL GET BACK TO THE RAVENS' SAGA NEXT TIME, END RP**
Kit
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 02:09:48 PM
IP: pool-209-138-207-213-dlls.grid.net

I'm glad to see that "Expatriate" has been greeted so well. I look forward to the rest of your reviews. Particularly to a story I co-wrote with Todd which should be posted in a few weeks.

Also, this Friday is my birthday. I will be 19.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:40:59 AM
IP: dialin-1190-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Todd: Crumbs, Blair and pals adopting the royal ‘we’ – that’s a scary thought. ;) Seriously though, I’ve never read or been taught anything of that nature. Probably just a change before my time; but I think it was in dialogue anyway. I was just being pedantic. ;) I think the worst one I’ve seen was a ha’penny turning up in one episode; that’s been out of circulation ever since I can remember (and certainly in 1996). The paper (‘The Daily Telegraph’ – a respectable enough national broadsheet) I have beside me says ‘the government is’ – I made a point of checking. As you say – probably just like realized is now proper British English. This sort of stuff is prone to change.

Airwalker: Agreed the whole prepare-for-the-possibility-of-gargoyles thing would take time, and a lot of paperwork (especially with the current government). But think about it – what if a few people come up on air saying they’ve seen gargoyles in London. Their descriptions don’t really fit the species (feathers? What’s up with that?) but a group if still rallying the government to do something. People have kids after all; better safe than sorry. And if the government didn’t bother, it might start to look rather out of touch (especially considering police numbers have fallen in recent years; if TGS-world is fairly similar to the real world there’s going to be some big problems landing). As soon as England would follow this up, the European government would probably create a piece of (sorry, a load of) legislation dealing with gargoyles and suchlike – since gargoyles may have access via the Channel Tunnel (it works for illegal immigrants).
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 09:49:40 AM
IP: webcacheh10a.cache.pol.co.uk

Sorrow> I meant to say this earlier, but hehe I've been a bit busy with "stuff"... such as recovery! *chuckles*
anyway, congrats on joining an Explorer Post!! I'm very much involved with the BSA and my daughter was a member of a sea post. They did the sailing/boating thing. (I watched safely from the shore) I hope that you continue to have fun - minus the hot shells down your shirt, of course ;)

Lynn> *hugs* I was finally able to sit long enough and type a reply to your email. Thanks!!

Recovery is slow and painful. I'm having a hard time adjusting to this new lifestyle of not being able to do much more than walk around the house. I drove my car for a quick errand and it wore me out and was painful - so I'm stuck at home for the most part. *sighs* Depression is becoming my friend.
Jannie
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 08:31:02 AM
IP: 64-240-37-47.hou.port.mytelco.com

Postscript on the "Government are" line. I looked up in the book where I had gotten the information about "Government" in Great Britain being treated as a plural noun, "Understanding British English" by Margaret E. Moore. The information was indeed there, but I also discovered that the book was printed in 1989. So perhaps that matter changed a bit over the last eleven years.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 08:08:55 AM
IP: 216.87.46.32.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Warpmind pops in. carrying a strange, bluish pike, and wearing an odd armor combination.*
Hullo again. :) I got the big ol' f****r. I must have spent over 5K in Town Portals, and an untold amount of Blood Golems taking him down, but I got Diablo. :) I AM the Chosen One. :)

The new episode was... short, but good. Just the way I like'em. :) (Well, I've liked the really, really long TGS episodes, too, but generally, I prefer the short, down-to-business stories...)

Shadowrider: Hmmm... I figure I should go through that disgusting portal and smash this weird yellow jewel once and for all...

Lexy: I'm saving up, I'm saving up... it's just that cross-Atlantic airfares are so preposterously steep... hmmm... maybe if I send my luggage by mail, and cross the Atlantic in a canoe, or something... *Ponder* It might work. No, wait, the Golf stream goes eastward... drat.

Katara: Me? Repeat joke? What joke? The Minstrel Cramps one? *Innocent look* ;)

Well, that's it for now. Later, gang.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 06:57:40 AM
IP: mp-217-218-36.daxnet.no

Last night's "Buffy" and "Angel" actually provided some teasers for their upcoming season. It seems that Dracula will actually be showing up in "Buffy" - hadn't even imagined that possibility taking place, but it will be interesting to see Buffy versus the most infamous vampire of all time. And the teasers for "Angel" show him on horseback with a lance and shield - that one definitely sounds like an upcoming episode that I'd like to see.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 06:49:49 AM
IP: 216.87.46.157.dialup-stl.primary.net

**Winterwolf forgot to leave the room!**

**Big Hugs/Hi Fives to XenaTrek and DPH for letting everyone know I was going to be gone till this week.**

I feel so happy to have such wonderful friends! I thought I told more friends here how long I was going to be gone. Sorry for not letting you all of you guys know immediately! The no labtop thing was an evil gut wrenching blow. I mean I had time about 2 or 3AM each day to type up a little something. Oh well 6 hours sleep a night was a nice vacation pace for me. ;)

It seems I'm back to my wonderful work until the job is done routine. I managed 11 hours today and I have a massive buildup of work that needs to be resolved before the week is over. Still it makes the day zoom by at lightning speed. It turns out my first day of vacation my manager gets fired and now we've lost the buffer between us engineers and insane workloads. Still it's okay. It makes my day go by extra fast! ^_^

Apologies for the multiple posts.
I'd type some more but I need some sleep. Adios!

**Winterwolf is tossed into his bed by an unknown force**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 03:18:02 AM
IP: 206.15.120.139

**Winterwolf crawls out of bed and skims through Daniel Johnson's archive of last week's CR**

A quick addition as I read through last weeks CR.

Happy Belated Birthdays to Xanathar, Green Baron, and Robby.
Big Happy Birthday to Janine who celebrated August 15th!! :) I feel horrible not mentioning that in my previous post!!

Lady Mystic> I'll be checking it out eagerly! Thanks!! ^_^

Must go to sleep now! I'll be back soon! ;)

Bye bye!

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 02:50:48 AM
IP: 206.15.120.139

*** TGS CR INFO UPDATE ***

Statistics on voting results are now in!

To see results go to my name's link. There's a whole bunch of information besides the expected list of cut pics. :)

As said on the Voter Stats page thanks go out to all participants, most importantly Winterwolf for his highly appreciated assistance and in-depth vote comments. He offered the most help! :)

** IMPORTANT **

Any appeals on cut AND kept images can be sent to me (See http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/appeals.html for more info.)

The DEADLINE for appeals is Wednesday, August 23rd, 2000 at 12 AM CR time. So send your questions, comments, opinions and appeals SOON. Better yet, NOW!

** / IMPORTANT **

The archive has also been updated to include archive weeks dating up to Saturday August 8th. Thanks Daniel Johnson!

> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2000/index.html

*** / TGS CR INFO UPDATE ***
Lady Mystic - [<-- Vote Statistics !!!]
TGS CR Info Senior Admin
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 02:35:21 AM
IP: 03-174.008.popsite.net

**Winterwolf steps into the CR.**

Christine> Tim didn't win anything with that excellent work on Macbeth and Demona being joined by the Weird Sisters curse? That's a true shame. I voted for his work too. I would love to see some pictures of it. I wanted to take one but it was in the room of no cameras allowed and such. <the essay on G2K> I loved your essay on G2K. You managed to keep me up an extra half hour as I read and remembered the moments. I'm also tingling at being a mentioned in the essay! Thanks! Sorry I was such a quiet guy. It takes a while for me to get chatty in RL. ;)

Lynne> <wonderwoman> You mean she isn't wonderwoman? I thought she had that guy in her golden lariat. :)

Emambu> So I gather that you didn't get a chance to stop by and see the con. Oh well there's always next year! <MIA> I've missed Caliope too. I don't think that I finished my discussion with Curly++ either now that I think about it. In addition when was the last time Rodlox, Cassandra, or Cyborg posted?

Niamhgold> I'm writing my G2K experience up! I know it won't be as captivating as Christine's account but I'll work my fingers off to make a good account of my trip! ^_^ <G2001> It would be awesome to get a group of us going! I'm sure Gside could make us a plane if we needed one! Right Gside? ;) I've said it before and I'll say it again I'd be honored to help you in any way I can! No matter what! Just ask! Even if you don't I'll be bugging you about it anyway! :D

Shadowrider> <story> I'll be working on it and sending it to you soon.

Pendragon> It is great to have a new season going and I think we have a nice introduction into the new season. Airwalker has gone above and beyond, as usual in analyzing the story and bringing out the good points on the story. I'll leave it at that for now. Great to see Airwalker, Ed and Graymonk posting TGS story comments. Thanks for your viewpoints!

SOROW> Ouchie! That sounds very painful! I hope you recover quickly and don't scar!

Lexy> Yeah! Come on everyone lets all go to the Gathering in 2001! I'm definitely going! :)

Gside> <Gside+WinterWolf- Ha ha ha :p *g* *jk*> I believe that was to your Sexy Lexy comment. (hehehe I got to say it and can easily avoid reprimands because I was just pointing out what Gside said in a previous post! LOL) For me it was to the So who is Lex's mate going to be. Since we were both teasing we got a little reprimand from Lexy. Thanks Lexy gla you took that in good humor as was intended! ^_^

******WARNING - BFTS RP******

Winterwolf listened to the exchange between DPH and Jason Filler. He whispers softly to himself, "Interesting. I'll have to find out more about this later." He walks into the room and greets the other two. "I think it's important that we are ready for the difficulties we will face taking on NCA. I doubt the Speed Stars have given up and DC, Netlag and Self Reboot have tried to fool us with the Rodlox imposter. Not to mention it was an easy task for them to remove Rodlox from this world. If we aren't ready they could do the same thing to anyone of us. I think we should share our knowledge and to that end I will take you to see my lord. Before that, tell me DPH what are the plans for dealing with our advisories?"

******END WARNING - BFTS RP******

Sleep well friends! Also, may those who have been gone return to us soon.

**Winterwolf bows before exiting and curling up in his nice warm bed.**
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 02:11:18 AM
IP: 206.15.120.139

****TGS SPOILERS****

Expatriate: This was a good season opener. I enjoyed the various interations of the police as they talked about catching Arthur. I did find the fact that the book that mysterious woman wanted was one that was left behind was somewhat convenient. The illustration was very well done.

****END SPOILERS****

Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 01:05:14 AM
IP: dial-21.ocis.net

OK, so I started typing when the cursor had the submit button selected. And dang, it double posted too. To continue:

...(the ability to lay eggs and the existance of stairs). And this is why I like having time read everything else before I post. I get time to cover up any mistakes I made, and even delete what I've said if someone else has said it.

DPH> <<which is bigger 2*i or i+1>>: 2i. Complex numbers are actually grahed in a plane, one axis being the real numbers, the other is the imaginary axis. Therefore complex numbers are vectors whose lengths can be determined. The length of 2i is sqrt(0^2+2^2)=2. i+1 is evaluated as sqrt(1^2+1^2)=sqrt(2).

Lexy> <<Gside+WinterWolf- Ha ha ha :p *g* *jk*>>: Sorry, what? I don't get it.
<<how many ppl really sit around obsessing over Lexington's future wife and kids?>>: Yo ho. Actually, I spend more time pondering what kind of toys he has.

SOROW> <<one of his fired shells went down my shirt>>: I'm sorry, but that just sounds funny.
<<and burned my chest>>: That, however, doesn't. May it heal soon.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:46:28 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Hi all. Only Tuesday, and already it's been a long week! Nothing much to say...for a change, so off to replies...

*Canyon gives Warpmind a look of disgust for daring to repeat that joke. Katara on the other hand is still rolling on the floor laughing*

Oh yeah, before I forget. I know that a FEW people in here have been following 'Survivor'. The local radio morning show that I listen to, will have Jenna on as a guest this Friday morning. If anyone is interested, the station does a live webcast, so click my name (or C/P the link below and go take a listen. Also on their web page, they have a pic of good 'ole Rich without his beard. There is also a link to 2 recent e-bay auctions of someone's 'Survivor' inspired art work. The titles of the pics are funny if nothing else.
<<http://www.histar.com/djs/jeff_jer/jeff_jer_main.shtml >>

RE: G2001> well, I know it may be a 'bit' to early to start planning it now. However, if anyone down in San Diego is interested, lets see about arranging some sort of car pool. With luck, hopefully my van will still be running decently by then. I'll even consider piloting. Also if anyone from Arizona way wants to travel to LA via San Diego, that could be cool. I've already told Crzy that I'm available to help out in whatever way she can find to use me. Once the dates start getting closer, (and I know what my own transportion will look like), I'm willing to start setting something up for the San Diego contingent. =]

Lexy > EXECELLENT comments you made about people already saying that they can't make G'01. At work, they start passing out the sign-up sheet for vacation time for the year in January. I will have at least 2 weeks saved up by then. I'm asking for a week in June for the Gathering as well as a week in July for Comic-Con. If I only get to take one week, you can bet your sweet patooties that I'll be going to LA. And if I don't have a ride or money for transportation up there, then I'll just have to start walking about the end of May. =p

Well, that's it for me. I'm off to go read Christine's con-report. Nighterz all!
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:30:25 AM
IP: ac93bf40.ipt.aol.com

Read the new Pendragon. Very nice, if a little short for my tastes. Though it did a very good job of setting up the next season.

Emambu> Wherever they came from, mu, and mu. The second two rely on false assumptions inherent in the question ()
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:54:23 PM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

I've been poking around a bit..and It appears that a lot of ppl are _ALREADY_ throwing the the towel on going to G2001. COME ON PPL!!!!!!!!! Why are you in _THIS_ comment room every day! Why do you read all THIS fiction?? I'LL TELL you why! Cuz you LOVE THIS SHOW! You have 10 MONTHS to find SOME WAY to get to G2001 and you are ALREADY giving up?? PPl PPL! I read comments all the time saying , "Gargoyles was so great! I loved that show!" "Wish it was still on the air." "Stupid Disney! Why did they take Gargoyles off the air?" "Does anyone here have any episodes on tape! I'm missing some!" WELL GUESS WHAT!! THIS is _your_ chance to GET THAT SHOW BACK! Lets review the top 3 excuse list...

1) I'm too young.

Now that one is a tough one..I had that problem myself. But we have many reliable ppl who are ready and willing to help watch you at the Gathering. You have 10 months to get your parents involved so that they can see that this is a safe thing to attend. You can always try and find an older friend or family member to go with you. The more the better! AND if all else fails try and make it a family event! Start planning now! The staff always does their best to pick out locations that are near by other family attractions. So no matter who comes you won't find yourself board. Start planning a family vacations down there _now_.

2) I just don't have the money.

Again, I understand. I am a college student after all! But again..10 months ppl..10 months..even if you saved a little bit out of that pay check each month from now until then you could make it. Ordering plane tickets early helps too ya know! Look for deals, and try to bring as many family members and friends as possible to help both the convention and your wallet.

And finally...
3) I have work/school.

As of now the Gathering will be held in June. That is a problem, I admit that. I happen to be attending summer school around that time myself. But the staff is currently working on that problem. BELIEVE ME the staff is trying to provide the best time slot they can. If you can't make a date they arrange..TELL THEM! If a bunch of ppl say "I cant make that date" trust me..they _will_ change it. But you have to speak up! NOT GIVE UP!
If work is your problem it depends really on what you do. Some of you CANT get off..I know that. My mom has one of those jobs where you can't EVER plan a vacation. But ppl..come on..10 MONTHS! ASK OFF NOW!!!! It's only 3 days for crying out loud!

There you have it. Ppl. We NEED YOUR SUPPORT! You know after the Gathering I went to Gencon. I can't tell you how many ppl came up to me (I was wearing my G2K T-shirt and backpack) and said, "COOL BACKPACK! Ya, Gargoyles. I loved that show!" Then I come back here and go into the comment and chat rooms and hear, "Gargoyles was SO COOL! I wish they would bring that back!" Now I read all these posts saying, "Gee..wish I could go..but ya know..blablabla." Look..I'm not trying to be mean here. I have a TON of things on my plate plus I am a young fan..I know the hardships of getting to the Gathering. What I don't know is how fans who seem so devoted all 362 days of the year just poop out on the three most important days we've got! 10 Months ppl..10 Months!! If every person at the last Gathering brought 4 ppl with them this upcoming convention we would be set! HECK I already got SEVEN ppl coming with me! And you can BET I'm not done gathering (excuse that pun) ppl to come with me yet!! COME ON PPL!! You say you love Gargoyles??? HA?? YA WELL LETS SHOW DISNEY HOW MUCH WE LOVE GARGOYLES!!!

Lexy
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:20:47 PM
IP: spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com

do you like dragonballz
martha reed - [marthareed3prodigy.net]
jackson, ms, us
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:48:31 PM
IP: jcsnb105-39.splitrock.net

Thanks to all who wished me well, I am much better now :) I just went shooting with my fellow Explorer Police Officers and it was fun. But the guy I was next to was so close to me that one of his fired shells went down my shirt and burned my chest! It still hurts like hell(probably another scar) and I'm soooooo embarrassed!
SOROW
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:28:48 PM
IP: dll2a010-0060.splitrock.net

Gside+WinterWolf- Ha ha ha :p *g* *jk*

Christine- *LOL* Perhaps Aiden _will_ always be Lexington's mate;) Sometimes I wonder if he just plain hasn't thought of it yet. I mean, besides me, how many ppl really sit around obsessing over Lexington's future wife and kids? Besides *grins* Lex didn't go all evil in your fics..So I'm a definate loyal fan for life *L*!
Lexy
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:17:02 PM
IP: spider-wk072.proxy.aol.com

**CONTAINS PENDRAGON COMMENTS/SPOILERS**

ED - You wrote: [I don’t agree with Airwalker that gargoyles in England should be any less of a worry than New York]

I didn't say that Gargoyles in England should be any less of a worry. I think that there should be some concern and some sort of investigation among the authorities - among police and such. But at this point there isn't any real evidence for the public to get worked up about - it's kind of like in the Original Series Season 2. Not exactly but sort of. Here regular people know that Gargoyles exist but the line of thought could be to go "It's just a NYC problem" or "I've got enough going on here without having to worry about some crap Americans dreamed up to keep themselves amused" or something like that.

It should be something that would be investigated. It should be something that would be thought about. But more as an occurance among cops than among everyone else. After all just because some new race popped up in NYC doesn't mean that its going to automatically occur to everyone in London that maybe there are Gargoyles living there too. After all if a lot of New Yorkers might still see Gargoyles as nothing more than animals then what would people in England with absolutely no contact or knowledge of Gargoyles think of them as? Maybe just animals who happen to have a habitat that's in the NYC area, just like some Tigers are only found in some parts of Asia and so on and so forth.

It is something that cops in England should look into. But among everyone else it should probably be something like:

"Gargoyles in London? Are you crazy? You only get those in NYC and even then its probably because something's in the water. Poor, Poor Americans. **Shakes head with look of pity on his/her face while turning to walk far away as fast as possible.**"

You wrote: [I’m sure that every government in the world would want to make sure that they’re prepared.]

Government? Prepared? What strange and fascinating country do you live in where the Government is prepared? :-)

Seriously you have a point - Governments would want to be prepared. But within reason - Canada would start and maybe Mexico but why would England start anything when the trouble is across the Atlantic? (Yes I know - to be prepared. But even then shouldn't it take years of bureaucracy to create a report that would authorize a board to start talking about becoming prepared since there are nothing but unverified rumor, no solid evidence, and no public outcry? And even with those three things, wouldn't it still take the same long amount of time? :-) )

GRAYMONK - You wrote: [It was also good to see the civilian humans recieve a cover story slightly more convincing than "Oh, it was a case of mass halucination".]

I like that there is an effort to try and have the government actually explain some of that madness. It's a very realistic response. But the explination they come up with comes right out of nowhere and would lead to too many questions that nobody (i.e. The Illuminati) wants to answer or nobody (i.e. The Government) can answer.

You wrote: [I don't think it took too much of a leap in logic for Maddox to be blamed for the Unsilee's actions.]

But where is the connection? He supplied equipment to the Quarrymen in America and then disappeared. There is no mention of Gargoyle involvement in the weirdness in London other than to mention that there are some rumors that its possible that there might be Gargoyles in the city. To a government official it might seem like a name was just pulled out of a hat. And to someone in the public it could seem that way too - people would ask questions and that's not what the statement is supposed to do - or at least that's the impression the issuing of that statement gave me, that they are trying to shut the public up. Any ambitious politician could easily tear this statement up and win some fame from the people for doing it. (This is an age when people are more conspiracy minded - some group of people is going to loudly question this and ask for answers. And what can be given since there is no evidence after all to connect Maddox's doings in America to general weirdness in England?)

You wrote: [Sefton said William Powell was preparing the statement. Powell's a member of the Illuminati.]

I realized that when I first read it. And for an Illuminati generated statement, it just has too many holes in it. This should be something airtight that isn't going to make people ask questions. Yet the statement does just that. We and the Illuminati have the necessary information to know its the truth but the general public doesn't. And the answer "He did it just because" isn't going to cut it when people are going to ask "But he was making billions as it is as a quiet businessman and had nothing to gain from it so why was it done? And are you lying to us as usual to cover up your incompetance or do you just have no clue what the hell your doing?" They don't know he was a mad Fay trying to conquer the world, only that he was a quiet businessman who happened to have sold equipment to a group at a time when the group was still not yet outlawed in a country where its not a crime to buy a weapon.

You wrote: [The Illuminati have had dealings with Maddox in the past and have access to a great deal of information so it stands to reason they'd know who was behind the attacks.]

I'm sure that they know Maddox and Madoc were the same and why everything was going on. My question is in letting this information out to the public (at least the believable part of it), it just opens up too much opportunity for questions and controversy which could get people digging deeper which is the last thing the Illuminati would want.

You wrote: [BTW do we know for sure she's the Morrigan?]

The SEEDS OF CHANGE picture that shows the character was in the picture vote for this room with the name Morrigan next to it. So it must be her. Besides we've already heard that there are plans for her and Corbie, not to mention that she did have a pet Raven with her in Season 2. So it stands to reason that its Morrigan that's being dealt with.

(Besides it's good to see one of the surviving generals of the Unseelie make a grab for a small empire. It fits with the scheme of Season 2 conquest on a more reasonable and able to deal with scale. I hope we see some more Unseelie Generals here and there trying to get some turf in other places - one in France, one in Eastern Europe, a few in America; They have power still and some ambition. Plus they don't have mad leadership anymore and even the heroes arrogence in victory can help them now.)

You wrote: [I belive "Expatriate" stated a month has passed since the end of the Unseelie War.]

If its been a month then there must be some bitterness among the Caledonians towards the English Clan. No aid to them for a month after the fighting stopped and while they are able to do so! Didn't the English Clan have a party immediately after the victory? So why did it take so long to start thinking about aid to the Caledonians? I hope this is addressed.

**END OF SPOILERS/COMMENTS ON PENDRAGON EPISODE**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 07:44:03 PM
IP: 146.new-york-13-14rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

I'm not going to run Expatriate over with my comments, all I have to say is that Pendragon looks like it's going to be really great this season =)
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 07:33:01 PM
IP: spider-wo064.proxy.aol.com

Thanks to everybody who commented on "Expatriate" so far; the level of attention that it's gotten is certainly very promising.

ED - Sorry about the "Government are" bit - that was my mistake. I'd read that in the UK "Government" is treated as a plural noun rather than a singular noun, and so wrote accordingly. Now it seems, since it's a British reader who corrected me on this, that that is no longer the case. (Maybe we need one or two native Brits on the TGS staff to guard us against such mistakes in the future :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 06:40:21 PM
IP: 216.87.46.216.dialup-stl.primary.net

**PENDRAGON SPOILERS**
Definitely a set-up episode. If this episode was supposed to be anything but a setup episode, it failed miserably. This sounds really stupid, but if the police are desperate enough, they oughta track down anybody who had any connection to Arthur Pennington. Arthur having to leave makes the episode realistic. If he did not have to leave, it would make Pendragon look dumbed-down.
**END PENDRAGON SPOILERS**

I am taking Pencillan for a sinus infection and antihistimines. My nose is only 1/2 stopped up today as opposed to being 100% stopped up.

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, the only thing I did RP about in your absence was the Speed Stars. I left the hanging thread still hanging. I felt stupid for missing the roots of the current problem when I was rereading the archive. For everyone else that was the closest you will get to spoilers.

One of these days, I will need someone to clean up punctuation, spelling, and spacing errors in the BFTS RP archive.
**END RP RELATED**

Since Napster is supposed to be shutdown, which company/companies is/are posed to take its place? And will those companies be forced to shutdown too?

**MATH PUZZLE**
the final hint:
(1/2)+i*(1/2)+i*(1/2)-(1/2)=i.

Along the same lines, I was thinking that 2 = (i+1)(i-1).
But I still have one question that I do not know the answer to: which is bigger 2*i or i+1.
**END MATH PUZZLE**

**BFTS RP continues while being monitored by an unknown force. Winterwolf, please correct me for any inaccuracies in this post regarding plans.**

SuperSpeed said, "Do you mind if I stay for a while here?"

DPH replied, "No problem.

Plastique walks in on DPH and says, "DPH, do you mind if I talk to SuperSpeed in private in your house?".

DPH replies, "No problem."

Jason Filler says, "I feel like I gained a lot of power. How do I turn it on?"

DPH replies, "Consentrate on activating your powers and you will gain them.

Jason consentrates and his body dramatically morphs into something else. He looks like Connect did when Connect was younger.

Jason stares at DPH for a moment, and then says,"Daniel, I am back."

"Jason, how do you know that I was once called that?" asks DPH.

"I am Connect temporarily controlling this body." replies Jason Filler.

"Where is Jason?" asks DPH.

"He is able to observe everything I observe. Your spell has the unexpected side-effect of allowing me to use this body to communicate. I temporarily take over to let you about this immediately. I will be to show Jason how to use my powers and be a mentor for him." replies Connect through Jason's body.

"Wow. You were once called Daniel?" asked Jason Filler.

"That was another lifetime ago. I do not want to relive that lifetime." replied DPH.

"Ok. I will not call you that again." replied Jason.
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 06:24:18 PM
IP: max1-39.cwy.cei.net

******DANGER! DANGER! SPOILERS WILl ROBINSON!******
WOO-HOO! Pendragon's back and it feels so good! Definately worth the wait. Thanks TGS!

The Good: -The pacing of the story. It felt neither rushed nor dragged out. Most of the events seemed to flow naturally and organically. None of the scenes seemed forced or tacked on.

-The political manuevering concerning the Unsilee War. I think it makes sense that the English people would be concerned. Unlike the Manhattan branch of the "May Eve Madness", which consisted of a single major confrontation in one main location and a few side battles, the London battle was spread out over the entire city. It was also good to see the civilian humans recieve a cover story slightly more convincing than "Oh, it was a case of mass halucination". I don't think it took too much of a leap in logic for Maddox to be blamed for the Unsilee's actions. After all, Sefton said William Powell was preparing the statement. Powell's a member of the Illuminati. The Illuminati have had dealings with Maddox in the past and have access to a great deal of information (including reports from Xanatos and Matt Bluestone) so it stands to reason they'd know who was behind the attacks.

-The name Nigel Sefton sounds familiar, has he been mentioned or had cameo in either of the previous seasons?

-The cloaked woman caught my intrest. Despite the fact that she all but admitted she framed Arthur I'm not convinced she's the Connection. Could she be in league with the true Connection? BTW do we know for sure she's the Morrigan. Her familiar is a Raven, not a Crow and she said she'd been planning this for over a year. Between missions for Madoc and dates with Merlin I don't think Corbie had much time to plot a frame-up for Arthur. If we don't know for certain she's Morrigan then I'm putting my money down on Queen Northalgis from "The Crystal Cavern".

Like Airwalker I enjoyed the Knights of Pendragon roll call. Dulcinea's file caught my interest. I'd very much like to know who this mentor of hers was and how she got involved with those crimes. Hopefully we'll find out a bit more as the season progresses.

Finnally I'm very excited about the way the cast was split up at the end of the story. This is a golden opportunity to get some more development and information about the Knights and Micheal as well as more character development concerning Arthur and Merlin.

The Bad: I only had a few minor quibbles with the story;

First of all I thought it was a too short, but I'm willing to settle for a short story when its as well paced and written as this. It acomplished its objective; to set up this season's storylines.

Second, Colin seemed to get off a little too easily. He must be a very good actor to convince Braddock that he wasn't hiding anything. I felt that Braddock should at least have said something about interviewing Una and Leo at a future date.

Finnally, where was Jennifer Camford? She was a fairly important supporting character in season 2 and has been out in public with Arthur enough times that the police should have brought her in for questioning as well.

To sum up: A good story with only three minor almost-flaws which had little effect on my overall enjoyment of the story. Nine Excaliburs out of Ten. Kudos and congratulations to all involved.
*****THE SPOILERS HAVE LEFT THE POSTING*****

Airwalker - Considering that you twice mentioned the problems of animation vs. fanfic in your post you might want to try this trick; If your computer is located near a TV with a VCR pop an Anime video (or video of any Cartoon show with an animation style you like) into the VCR and play it while you read the story. I find that sneeking peeks at the cartoon in between paragraphs helps me visualize the story as an animated TV show (with fantastic production values). The trick might not work for you but it could be woth a shot.
BTW, I belive "Expatriate" stated a month has passed since the end of the Unsilee War.
Graymonk - [bgray@upei.ca]
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 05:38:51 PM
IP: pc008.fh.upei.ca

PENDRAGON: “EXPATRIATE”

*** This post will contain SPOILERS. ***

I’ve been looking forward to this one for ages – as you guys will know by now, I like ‘Pendragon’. For all it’s faults, like the 180 degree changes in tone and style, it’s still quite cool. Emrys is a great character, and it’s nice to see the focus on the London clan.

So, despite the blazing blooper “the Government are” very early on, I like it. It’s a great season opener: it reintroduces the characters very cleverly, has a fascinating new scenario and from the way it leaves off suggests that there’s a lot to come.

The two biggest worries I guess I had with ‘Pendragon’ is that the number of characters and dealings would become too extensive to follow and that the series would start to feel like an epilogue after something bigger. Well, the character solution is great. There’s still plenty of opening for episodes that deal with the individual characters (e.g. a journey to the Caledonian forest) but no pressing need to do so. Good stuff. Also, the series has a lot of new mysteries: the focus is definitely on what’s next, not what’s gone before.

I don’t agree with Airwalker that gargoyles in England should be any less of a worry than New York: the confirmation of Manhattan gargoyles does not preclude the possibility that they are an international species. I’m sure that every government in the world would want to make sure that they’re prepared.

The shadowy figures seem fairly obviously Morganna and Morrigan: but I love these old villains so I’m bubbling with anticipation.

I forget what happened to Grimalkin – is he still at large? He was my favourite.

I shouldn’t forget the ace illustration: smashing job!

Very exciting stuff. Are all future episodes going to be released on Tuesday?

Crumbs, I haven’t actually kept up with a TGS series when it’s originally aired since… since… well, the last ‘Pendragon’ series. :} I’ve got high hopes.

WAY TO GO, TGS FOLK! ^_^
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 05:05:25 PM
IP: webcacheh10a.cache.pol.co.uk

Hi to everyone! Good to see you all.

Niamhgold:> MTV: well, seems that taste of American public is different from Italian. As I said earlier, when they tried to show "Road Rules" and "Undressed" here, it was a huge flop...so they returned to the original concept, with a wide programmation of music (quite a share of commercial music like Britley Spears, but also something different, like Manu Chao or Rhapsody) and some good animation (Cowboy Bebop, Alexander, Master Mosquiton and, of course, Daria, that here has a wide audience).
They call you Daria? Well, I think there's something worse...like being hit by an asteroid (my philosophy of life is "There's always something worse...")...but the fact they don't know your real name is really bad. BTW, I didn't know they were making a movie of Daria...I'll wait to see it.

Warpmind:> Yes, the guy in the cutscenes (beautifully made, by the way, as usual for Blizzard...) is called Marius...;)

SOROW:> Oh, I'm glad to know you feel better...I admit when I saw your post I was a bit worried...

Spacebabie:> Hornets: Well, I used to have a real phobia of hornets...I needed years to win it. Now...well, I still don't like hornets, but I no more escape when I see one, at least.

Winterwolf:> Welcome back, pal. :) Of course, I'm curious to know your adventures at the Gathering, if you want to tell me.

Emambu:> Was you on your own when you came in Italy? Anyway, if you will return here, I really suggest you to visit Naples...it is a beautiful city, with a lot of things to see and to do.

New episode of Pendragon: I'll read it soon.

Nothing more to say. Maybe later, or tomorrow.

Ciao ciao!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 03:51:33 PM
IP: h217-168-248.mi2.albacom.net

**COMMENTS/SPOILERS FOR CURRENT PENDRAGON EPISODE**

An interesting introductory episode. Overall very well done although I did feel that it was kind of short. Still that doesn't mean anything bad since that was the length of space that the story required. It got straight to the point of starting to set up the new status quo that started developing so long, LONG ago in SEEDS OF CHANGE.

I liked the beginning of this episode - its been such a long time since we've seen a PENDRAGON episode that a rundown of the cast was needed and the police read off of names with the little information that they have gives the feeling of mystery to any new readers out there while at the same time reminding the rest of us of the status quo as it stood the last time we saw the human cast of this series. (Of course I think that Colin Marter probably should have been on that rundown list too if they are already going to go to the length of including Kevin Mitson on it.)

I did wonder about the introduction of an English government image problem due to the Unseelie War of Season 2. Going point by point:

I don't think the English are going to go as far as blame the government for bad weather, only the reaction the government would have in dealing with it. The impression given though is that the world temperature dropped, there were several months of bad weather and the people are blaming the government as if they controled the weather. I would have liked if it had been made clearer that the reaction is probably due to government faliure to deal with the weather than the weather itself.

(I still think though that the weather should still be a problem - just because Madoc died doesn't mean that his spell has to die with him. He cast it and it shouldn't have been so easy to get rid of - it should have been one of these lingering after effects like radiation after the end of a nuclear war. That would give great opportunity to really give substance to what is implied here - that something really unexpected has struck and the people are screaming at government(s) who have no clue as to what's going on or what to do about it.)

I've never been to England so I can't say for sure but are they going to take reports of mythological creatures and walking statues any more seriously than they'd be taken in NYC? Shouldn't this be more along the lines of alligators in the sewers than a serious government concern? After all isn't the situation in PENDRAGON England kind of like that of Goliath and clan in Original Series Season 2 NYC?

And as for the final battle of the Unseelie War, well while that did spill out into the streets, didn't the bad weather cover it up a bit by keeping a lot of people at home? Or am I confusing the blizzard weather situation of the NYC branch of the war with how things were in London at the time? (It's been a while since I read TGS Season 2 so if I'm wrong on any point please correct me.) Wouldn't that weirdness be more along the lines of an English version of CITY OF STONE or THE GATHERING - something unexplainable that people wonder about but not something that really get them thinking unless they are interested in conspiracy theories or actually witnessed it themselves? (Not to mention that the weird has supposedly subsided altogether which should imply to a lot of people that maybe there wasn't that much credibility to the first batch of sighting. Now if they would be continuing then that would be something else completely - but suddenly they stop and aren't heard from again in a modern world - wouldn't people be more likely to say that they were made up to begin with or that there was just something else, something more logical, that makes more sense to a modern mind?)

And as for the Gargoyle sitings, shouldn't that be taken more seriously than any of the above mentioned items? After all its not like Gargoyles are myths anymore - the NYC situation is prood enough that they exist. Shouldn't the cops be more suspicious of a gun dealing spending a lot of time with people who spend their times in robes and masks? Wouldn't knowledge of those people start to make someone suspicious especially given that some investigating is being done at the moment about someone connected to them in some way? It's too early to say since its only the first episode and anything can happen in the coming season but shouldn't there be more importance given to this than anything else in the police X Files? It would be interesting to see a Gargoyles Task Force in London without a Matt or Elisa to smooth things over and without a population thats hostile to Gargoyles but only with a bunch of cops who just want to get to the bottom of things with neutral positions of the entire subject?

Also the statement that was being prepared for official consumption by the public, I think it was a huge leap in logic to right away blame Maddox/Madoc. We know he was evil and the Gargoyles/Secret Everything/one else knew it, but do the mainstream cops and such know it? They know he was in America equiping Quarrymen but how does that connect to anything going on in England since the weirdness is not even being suggested as being connected to anything Gargoyle related at all? Not only that but it opens up more questions than answers, make the governments seem more incompetant and would seem like the kind of thing that would make the public more alarmed than anything else. Look at what they are saying after all - some CEO formed a terrorist organisation and launched attacks on the world only to be secretly fought and killed. Everyone from the general public to opportunistic politicians should be screaming about how this could happen and why this information didn't come out before and especially why its only being told like this in England and not anywhere else. After all there isn't a similier American press release stating the same thing.

And while I can see how publically catching a gun smuggler would improve public relations they don't seem to be managing it properly at all - they haven't publically announced a manhunt, they haven't let the public know that they are supposted to be worried about any gun smuggler and that he needs to be caught. Pendragon isn't on the news or anything like that - he's not on the English version of America's Most Wanted. On this though its probably too early to really say anything since the season hasn't really gotten going yet - but an eye should be kept on the idea. If this is a public relations tool then there should be some sort of emphasis on informing the public so that they can be sufficiently appriciative when the arrest is made. If its just made like that and the public doesn't know how its being "saved" then its all a wasted effort in the public relations department.

I did like though the reaction of Sefton towards the sightings in connection to concern for his family. The fact that its a realistic weirdness that he can more easily accept with a modern mindset made it seem even better. If he had been worried about Lizard tailed Chickens then it would just seem silly. But the way it was put as a legitimate concern about a wild animal scare (with the weirdness probably being rationalized as exaggeration) stands out much better and adds greatly to the character and the story itself.

I do think though that the fact that the evidence against Arthur is obviously coming in as a frame and the cops are noticing it - mentioning it - should start to send some message to their minds. It seems dismissed too easily - if this were animation then I'd figure that we'd see Braddock make some sort of face as if he were torn between his head and his gut feeling. It seems like he's being kept from realizing somethings up to have the chase with Arthur going longer and then set up a climatic scene where the truth is revealed and he has to abase himself before King Pendragon.

I like the sort of relaxed feeling expressed by Merlin after the defeat of the Unseelie. They seem to be over confident in victory. Madoc is gone but everything he built couldn't disappear so easily. All of his generals are still out there and the Halflings are still around with all the powers they got. And he dismisses it so simply - the arrogence of victory that I hope gets up and bites them in the butt. After all when Alexander the Great died his Kingdom collapsed as a unified structure but his generals built long lasting kingdoms of thier own out of it. Shouldn't Madoc's empire be sort of similier? And isn't that what we're seeing to a sort of extent in Morrigan's actions? I really hope to see more of this and think that now that a super Fey empire that dominated Season 2 is gone the remenants can be developed into a more realistically manageable threat/competition.

I did really like the fact that the danger to the clan by Arthur's presence is really brought up well here. They were living quietly, peacefully, and from the time he showed up they have been getting into more of a position of discovery which they don't need and might not be ready for. This episode has already put the police dangerously close. The fact that they seemed to dismiss investigating Marter seemed only like an easy way to keep the clan from discovery. It would have been more moving if this investigation forced Marter to distance himself from the clan and even force the clan to close the Mystic Shop for a while. The reaction of the clan to that and after that to Arthur might have been interesting instead of just slightly diverting disaster on the whim of an investigator.

The new direction that being taken with Arthur and Merlin wandering (presumably across Britain and Europe - I hope that it'll include Europe in its scope, this series is much bigger than just a clan in city - it's a clan on a continent) is great at this point. It allows for individual focus on Arthur and Merlin in some episodes and for clear focus on the London Clan in others. (Honestly I prefer to read about the London Clan than about Arthur so this will help in a large amount of the cases focus the Clan stories on the clan rather than having to have Arthur show up just because the series is called PENDRAGON.)

I wasn't crazy though about how easily Arthur was ready to run for the hills though. He is still to close to his King roots and should have a harder time running from a fight despite how much danger it might pose to his subjects. It's probably just the difference between animation and written out stories - in animation we'd see the look on Pendragon's face as he made his decision to leave and that would say it all. Here it a bit harder to grasp - the Picture given was great by the way but it gave Merlin more of the bitter look than it did to Pendragon. Pendragon had a slightly more optimistic look, like he was seeing this as a new opportunity rather than a huge defeat. Or maybe it was just a hopeful look - that he was looking at the manor and thinking about how wonderful it will be to see it again. Merlin's look was much more powerful, the look of someone with age who knew what the score was and how things might realistically turn out.

I would have liked though if Arthur though hadn't just appointed Griff to the job of leading his band of Irregulars - it might have been more interesting to see how things would fall if they were left hanging. It would have been an easier way to see the interaction happening as each member of the group would start to get into friction and conflict. Like this its pretty clear cut that they should turn to Griff. What I'd like to see now is how Griff - who isn't exactly a leader after all (who says that everyone who gets into leadership has to be good at it or suited to it?) having to deal with all this. And hopefully complicating that will be his having to help Brianna deal with however things went up north in Scotland. Those two plots alone are just brimming with possibility. I can't wait to see it, especially the aftermath of the Unseelie War in Caledonia. Hopefully we'll see some permanent results there unlike with the other clans that were in the war. (By the way how long has it been since the Unseelie War ended in TGS timeline? Michael talks about giving aid to the Scot Clan but if its been a really long while then why hasn't it been done already? And if enough time has passed wouldn't the Caledonians become bitter at the lack of support from their allience with England, perhaps thinking that they did all the fighting and now can't get any help from the English Clan who dragged them into this?)

All in all a great introduction to a new Season. I can't wait to see what happens next. (We will be seeing more of Caspian, Lucy, and Rosalind right? I was very curious about them. It might have been nice to squeeze them in for a cameo here so that new readers could get an idea of who they are and so they're status quo could be reintroduced.)

One last thing - the Gathering that Goliath plans and Michael brought up. I really hope that this is put off for as long as possible. It just seems way too soon for a Gathering of Gargoyle Clans. They are supposed to be weak and isolated at this point. After all most of them don't have a billionaire to support them. Maybe I'd like the idea better if it was just a meeting of leadership rather than of entire clans. Bringing entire clans together this early in the game just seems wrong. Bringing Goliath, Kai, Michael, and a few others together seems more realistic. A clan meeting should be put on hold for a while. At least until things get more stable - it should be more of an optimistic idea for Goliath than something that should be put together in reality at this point. I bring all this up because everytime someone brings it up in TGS it just sort of grates on me as part of a general rush to Utopia that really shouldn't happen as early as it's been shown to in the series.

**END OF COMMENTS/SPOILERS FOR CURRENT PENDRAGON EPISODE**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:46:20 PM
IP: 117.new-york-20-25rs.ny.dial-access.att.net

Expatriate is a wonderful story. I am not going to spoil it any by explaining further. I just personally really liked it
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:09:39 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.33.12.sandiego1.level3.net

*Warpmind enters, dodging assorted nuts.*
Out of sheer curiosity, WHO threw those? One thing is getting nutted (I experience that often enough...); another is being nutted ANONYMOUSLY. So whoever threw those, own up RIGHT now. ;)

SJ: But, if all the stormtroopers are clones, it certainly does explain their less-than-perfect aim; they never gained the necessary experience to shoot straight in the first place... :)

Christine: I'd love to visit Sabledrake Hall on Yahoo! Clubs, but since I officially boycott Yahoo!, well... sorry.

Lynne Like: Heh, you're welcome. :)

Ooo, after concluding this post, guess who's gonna rush for the new ep? :)

Gside: Compadre, me being subtle can be quite similar to a Klingon diplomat. :) And your comment on sales taxes... well, let's just say that now I'm EVEN more eager to move. And have no fear; I just got my hands on a HUGE piece of fake topaz. ;)

**RP**
Warpmind drew a small iron dagger, and some of the demons took a step back in sheer terror.
"Ladies, gentlemen and infernals, I present to you the Dagger of The Cross. It is an artifact of great power against evil; it was forged almost 2,000 years ago, in Rome... from three very certain iron nails. Now, don't worry; I'm not going to use it on any of you guys, but maybe this one could provide efficient means to injure the Ten? Problem is... it's a hand-to-hand weapon, and I'm certainly not fit to get THAT close to those creatures, so... any volunteers?"
**RP END**

Oh, well, now it's off to read Pendragon... :) See y'all.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:54:09 AM
IP: mp-217-208-185.daxnet.no

(Drat. Next time the picture vote comes around, I need to put in a vote for Umbriel. My favourite character from Gargoyles, albeit one of the shortest-lived ones, and I can't even swipe his pic.)

Read the first ep of Pendragon's third season... nice lead-up, certainly. Now, more than even, I'm curious as to just who is setting Arthur up. I've got suspicions but none of them make sense... ^^;

Looking forward to next week.
Skyrender - [skyrender@powersurfr.FNORD.com]
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:44:41 AM
IP: edmserv15.stantech.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Whee!!! Great start to a great week! Winterwolf's back, SOROW's feeling better, and we've got a discussion going about _insects_. _Insects_, people! ;)

Yesterday, I finally copped out and bought some Prismacolor markers. Whoo, those bad boys are fun to play with (although I think I like either Photoshop or ink & acrylic).

Lesse, on to the replies:

Christine: I would love to see a piccy of the Weird Sister diorama! (As you may already have been able to tell, they're my fave characters). From what you said about Tim spending so much time on it, I can only imagine how great it looks! I sympathize with you on getting into the Art Show late...I don't even think the package I sent made it in time, since I sent it to be delivered on Friday (when they were probably already set up).

SOROW: Glad you're feeling better :)

Emambu: I love those puzzles too...there wouldn't have been any survivors to bury, roosters don't lay eggs, and if the house was 1-story, then you wouldn't have to worry about what color the stairs are :) Of course, I think these puzzles are more difficult when spoken, because when they're written, you can just go back and read what it said.

Warpmind: I have to agree with Gside and say that he also answered your puzzle first (although I didn't realize this until I read back over his post :). Ouch, your sales tax sounds nasty...like Gside said, in NH there's no sales tax ** grins happily **; however, at the same time, the Supreme Court found the state's way of funding schools through property tax unconstitutional; therefore, a state income tax (which we also don't have) may have to be erected! :Q

Diablo II: Looked at it, stood in the entranceway of the store and really *considered* it, but in the end just decided I don't have the time to get into another game :)/
:( Instead, I put my money into Macromedia's Fireworks (which updates my graphic design software to Adobe After Effects, Premiere, Go Live, Dimensions, Streamline, Pagemill, Pagemaker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Image Ready, Image Styler, Fireworks, and Dreamweaver).

Winterwolf: I wasn't going to forget my CR pal! ** HUGZ **
I'm glad to see that you got my e-mail, and had a fun vacation! It's been a little weird around here without you :) Now you can see how much you were missed! < Miniposter > ** smiles ** They told us to keep it all a secret ;) I'm thinking about G2001; if I need a lift, I'll definitely be begging you guys! I'm right up North, not too far from a bunch of people (was it Gside who was talking about subtlety? :D ) Anywho, I'll be replying to that e-mail, and will *definitely* be waiting for that account of G2K!!!! :)

Adios/Aloha/Whatever have you!

NIamhgold
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 09:32:52 AM
IP: lac-flex128.ncia.net

Hi all!!

David G: re Evangelion DVD's>>Thanks for the information and the website link,now I know what to look out for next time I go to the city. :)

Spacebabie:<<Guess who had a hornet fly in her face today? Guess who has a phobia of hornets? Guess who smacked with the morning newspaper and ran screaming into the house?...yeah me>>ouch! :(,my sister has a similar problem with bees,although it's not so much a phobia,more like a "Oh #%&$!! another bee is out to get me" kind of reaction(she's been stung a lot over the years),mind you her fear of bee's nothing compared to the intense fear and loathing a mime artist can create around people.(J\K) ;)

SOROW:I'm glad your feeling better.:)

Lynne Like:Welcome back!,Your sister-in-law sounds cool! :)

I've gotta go,take care.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 08:38:43 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

*Emambu strolls in*

Hmmm... the CR got completely wiped last week? Good thing Daniel Johnson managed to salvage most of it or else I wouldn't be able to respond to too many posts this time out. Actually, I'll try to keep this one short.

Brooklyn: You're welcome. Actually, I'm pretty sure there's some other stuff by Sir Walter Scott that you might find useful for your story. If I find anything else I'll send it to you.

Winterwolf: Good to hear from you finally. I hope you had a nice extended vacation in Florida.

Doug: Thanks for the wishes. I leave for U. Pitt in one week and classes start in a little less then two. Also, my hand is healing nicely, thank you. The doctor did a real good job on it. Lastly, I'm sorry to hear about your job troubles. May you have the strength to put up with the idiots in life rather than succumb to the temptation of beating them over the head with the cudgel of common sense.

Shadowrider: Lets see... I was in Italy in the summer of '95 so that would make me... thirteen at the time. I guess that's a little too young to go wandering around Naples unsupervised. I'm sure if I went now my parents wouldn't be as neurotic.

Firestorm: I sure hope he was bluffing, but stranger things have happened (like burglers breaking into houses, falling, injuring themselves, and then suing the owners). God bless America and God bless our judiciary system!!

Joxter: (translation-> "it means 'you're a baboon, and I'm not.'") Man, I've haven't seen that movie in ages. :)

SOROW: Glad to hear you're feeling better.

Warpmind: D'oh! Niamhgold had figured it out first. I've always liked those particular kinds of puzzles. Some of my other favorites include "If a plane crashes on the border between Mexico and the United States, where would you bury the survivors?" Another good one is "If a rooster sits on a roof, where all four sides slop at an equiangular 45 degrees, and lays an egg right on the point where the slopes of the roof converge, which way would the egg roll?" Lastly, there's my favorite (the one I always tripped up people on), "Jack lives in a one-story house where everything is painted blue. The walls are blue. The floors are blue, the ceiling is blue. The roof is blue. The outside walls to the house are blue. The chairs, TV, bed, carpets, appliances, are all blue. What color are the stairs?"

BTW, I personally don't see anything creepy about the guy in Diablo II being named Marius. Maybe if there was one named Erik, I'd be a little freaked out, but in this case I'm not. Still I understand why you'd be. :)

Sevarius Jr: As a Star Wars nerd, I can only pray that Lucas has the sense to keep Obi-Wan from being a clone, as well as the stromtroopers. The obi-Wan thing is just silly to begin with. Also, too many books have depicted imperial academies where soldiers train to become stormtroopers. Some of these people even had backgrounds to illistrate that they're people just like everyone else. Lastly, the SW books have made it pretty clear that clones can be sensed through the force. If stortroopers are clones, how come Luke never senses it. He ran into several troopers on several different occasions after the Heir to the Empire trilogy so I won't buy into the excuse that he didn't know. There's a few more things I'd like to rant on about here, but I'm afraid I'm becoming longwinded. :)

Missing members: Yeah, I've noticed that Mecord, Archwolf, and Ironwolf haven't been around much lately either. Then again, neither has Caliope and Curly ++.

Nothing in the way of personal stories and events. Any of you who listen to Cartalk on NPR or visit their webpage might end up reading a really funny story about my brother and his '80 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. If they don't have the time to read it or the space to post it, I'll post a copy here. Anyone who's ever had car problems (and I know that there are a few of you here) will get a kick out of it.

Right now though, I'm going to sleep. When I wake up, I'll have a TGS Pendragon story to read. Woohoo! I look foward to it. Take care,

---Emambu
Emambu - [ErikMambu@aol.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 03:15:26 AM
IP: proxy2-external.wyn1.pa.home.com

Daniel Johnson> <<Are they anything like sticky buns?>>: Oh yes, but my buns are much better. As you probably guessed, that should have been a p.
<<you're not most people. You're an engineer>>: I am sure that there are people who would take offence at that, but I try to revel in it.

Niamhgold> <<the idea that the universe is base thirteen has again arisen>>: I'm probably going to bring it up every time 42 is mentioned. It is my pet theory after all, just like that Macbeth/Falstaff thing (mmm, Falstaff).

CSH> Watch out, you put a ` on your homepage's link to Zone 47.

Lynne Like> Welcome back
<>: Those are so much fun. When they dig,the dirt just shoots out of their holes, and my father got excited recently when he saw one actually flying with a cicada.

Warpmind> <<You just HAD to figure out the puzzle on first attempt>>: So did I, but I think I was more subtle. Subtlety is key, but then what do I know about subtlety?
<<regular sales tax in the US is generally between 8>>: I think here is 6%, New Hampshire has none.
savings: My point was more that you'd now have to pay for things like heath insurance in addition to the taxes, which might possibly counter the savings. But then what do I know about economics?
<<is that guy in the cutscenes called "Marius"?>>: Yup. I reccommend you start carrying a yellowish crystal in your coat, incase you are apporached by any angels or evils.

Sev. Jr.> **SPOILER**<<We discover the stormtroopers are clones>>: After episode one, I was wondering if they were second generation battle droids.

New Pendragon. Read tomorrow. Yummy.

As I promised, I owe an mp3. I seem to have been on a symphonic kick, so let's change a bit. I think I'll go with what I consider some good traveling music. The Country Life by Crash Test Dummies.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 02:41:51 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

***Kyryn steps into the room***

Gentlebeings,

TGS presents the Season 3 Opener of Pendragon:

Expatriate

Written by Alan Coleman Waltrip and Todd Jensen

Artwork by Christi Smith Hayden

Where do we go from here?

***Kyryn steps aside to avoid the mad rush***
Kyryn - [<<<---clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:48:10 AM
IP: denm1-29.iglobal.net

Warp: Thanks--I'll let Linda know you called her a cute little lady! She'll get a kick out of it. I sang "Wonderwoman" to her all day Saturday hee hee :)

SJ: Fox Terriers: yours reacted as a typical specimen, since they were originally bred to hunt foxes. Whereas, Labs were bred to not kill, but to simply retrieve prey. But actually, just about ANY dog will fight like that when they feel their territory is threatened. I raise German Shepherd Dogs, and I know mine will. BTW, is your fox terrier smooth or wirehaired? They're cute little dogs :) I once looked at a litter of tiny 3 week old foxies, and would you believe they all growled at me? LOL

Lynne
Lynne Like - [mjlike@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:23:41 AM
IP: fw1.directlink.net

Niamhgold > Tim's diorama didn't win anything, but we also didn't get it placed in the art show until halfway through Saturday, and I know as I was carrying it out at the end a lot of people remarked that they hadn't seen it, so maybe we were too late to get many votes. I'll have him take some pics of it and post them, because it turned out very nice and he worked hard on it.

Lexy > ya know, I was thinking, LOL, that the longer poor Greg delays telling you about Lex's mate, the more you'll become fixed on Aiden (esp. after she featured in that big painting again!), and he might be worried about letting you down! I'm so conceited! ; )

Gside > I would love to be able to do something like that, but would never dare. I _do_ have booklets that Tim made me for Xmas, compiling all my stories up through "What Might Have Been," fifteen volumes in all (and he snuck around to Spike and other of my fave artist pals to get a bunch of illustrations, too, the darling!). But I know I'd get stomped on big-time if I ever tried to publish those. Le sigh. (great, Crzy, now you've got me doing it! En garde, pigeon!)

Book stuff > a reminder for those reading Dark of the Elvenwood and itching to discuss it, come join Sabledrake Hall on Yahoo Clubs! http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sabledrakehall or click on my name.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:16:50 AM
IP: 209.236.216.57

**Winterwolf runs into the CR**

I'm home and finally unpacked! I missed being here and talking with you guys! The Gathering was great! I had fun hanging out with Aaron and Mara. :) If anyone wants to hear my wacky adventures at the Gathering I'm willing to tell the tale. Right now I'm getting back into my groove so I'll keep this post somewhat short. ^_^

Daniel Johnson> Thanks for the archived copy of the room. I didn't get to see the room at all last week. :(

XenaTrek> It was great seeing you at the Gathering! :) Thanks for the welcome back!

DPH> I'll be checking the archive before my next post. If I have any questions I'll let you know.

Lexy> Hi Lexy! It was great meeting you. So Lexy, who is Lexington's mate going to be? **joke** ;D

Niamhgold> <scare> **HUGZ** You can't scare me away! ;) Thanks for the email and the post too! Your miniposter was one of the award winners this year and I think it's great! <G2001> I could be totally wrong but I thought I heard that it would be in July or June in 2001. Would you be able to make that? <other people from the east> Hmm. Where are you anyway? I have a million offers for ya! ;)

SOROW> <sick> I'll be praying for you to make a speedy recovery and I'll also send you something special too! <recovered> **Happy Dance** I'm happy to hear you are all better. I was pulling for you! I'm still sending you something special anyways! ;)

Gside> So I guess Mecord, Archwolf and Ironwolf have been MIA lately huh? I miss them too.

Shadowrider> Thanks. I got your email. I'll be sending a reply tomorrow. :)

Spacebabie> Hi to another great CR pal! I'm glad I got to meet you. <hornet> On the bright side it sounds like you didn't get stung. I hope you're all better now! ;)

Lynne Like> It's great to read a happy story now and then. I'm glad everything worked out so well! I'll be replying to your email tomorrow. I've been catching up since I got in earlier today. ^_^

A big thanks to Niamhgold, Gside, Shadowrider, Daniel Johnson, XenaTrek, Xanathar, Spacebabie, and Lynne for the welcome backs! I hope I didn't miss anyone!

It was fun but it is great to be back! I think I went through some TGS CR withdrawal. For those that are interested I'll be working on getting pictures up by the weekend. Good night!

**Winterwolf leaves for now.**
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, August 14, 2000 11:35:37 PM
IP: ip-67-69-27.nyc.navipath.net

***BEGIN RP***
Everyone pauses as suddenly Warpmind appears. After he receives a warm greeting from everyone, they fill him in on exactly what's been going on in the battle.
"Well," Sammael explained, "we weren't exactly having much success with our battle, but Gasper sacrificed his life to defeat her."
"And after that, Kitty--who's Kari and Jim's sister, I might add--warped me out of HFIL and up here to the battlefield, where she then switched me back to my original body and Sammael got a nifty new necroplasmic body."
Warpmind shook his head, digesting all of the new information. "I see. And exactly why is there an entire nation of demons standing around over there?"
"Oh," Sammael said sheepishly. "Well, we, uh recruited them for the battle. But apperently, we don't seem to have too much to do with them now that the remaining Ten have chosen to regroup."
"So what DO we do with them?" Kari asked.
"I think they're getting pretty restless!" Dyspare added.
From the ranks of the demon army, the huge green warrior Belzelk stepped forward. He snorted, then crossed his arms in front of him. "Here's the deal," he rumbled. "The boys and me are getting pretty stir crazy. We're used to, you know, breaking things. Or killing things. Or eating things....so we're pretty bored. We wanna ditch."
"But we need you!" Kari protested. "The rest of the Ten ARE coming back, you know!"
"Yeah, we know," Belzelk said. "That's why not all of us are leaving. The finest 12 warriors will be staying with you to help fight the remaining Ten. The rest of the demons go there separate ways. We even promise not to cause any mischief....at least, not until the Ten are destroyed and we're reasonably sure that our butts are save from execution."
"So, exactly who are these twelve demon warriors?" SJ asked.
Belzelk smiled, his tusks shining in the sunlight. "Glad you asked..."
****END RP*****

Good evening, ladies and gents! Another lazy Monday of summer has come and gone. Odd day I had today. I had a pretty traumatizing time earlier tonight.....my dog nearly killed another dog. Nearly ripped its throat right out. I had to pull him off the other dog....it was scary. Violent. Everything that you'd see in one of those graphic National Geographic specials. The funny thing about it, though, is that my dog is a little Fox Terrier....and the dog he attacked was a big Labrador Retriever. The Lab was, no joke, at least twice as big as my dog......it just wanted to play, but it made the mistake of invading my dog's "personal space". You know how they say dogs go straight for the throat for a kill? I thought that was a myth. I was wrong, obviously. Remember the cliche: It's not the size of the the dog in the fight, it's the size of the dog's testicular fortitude to be insane enough to try and throw down with a dog twice as big as itself.

It's looking to be a long week ahead, too.....After just barely surviving the entertainment hell that was the Republican Convention, we now have to face the Democratic Convention!!! Jesus, when is the election? November? Damn, 2 1/2 more months of this crap! I mean, at least the Reform Party Convention was fun to watch--half of the party wanted to beat the hell out of the other half [And Pat Buchanan eliminated the only constituency that he was leading in, that being white supremacists, when he picked an African-American woman as his v.p. candidate. And they say that the Republicans are trying to hard to portray themselves as inclusionary]. Now we have to suffer through the Democratic conventions.....And here's the scary thing--some of the networks are now saying that they didn't cover the Republican Convention enough, so to make up for this, they plan *extra* coverage of the Democratic Con. NO!!! NOOOOO!!!! Please, PLEASE!!! Do NOT do this!!! Don't they understand? There is NOTHING more boring than political conventions! I would rather watch a Dharma and Greg marathon than watch either Al Gore or George W. Bush give speeches about *anything*!! Please, you did a good thing--you showed as little of the Rep Con as possible, for which I thank you. Don't make the mistake with the Dem Con!! Please! I understand that many of you in the networks are probably liberal (or so Jerry Falwell tells me), but political conventions = ratings cancer!
At least, there was one funny moment of the Dem. Con so far. I just find it very amusing to see the Hollywood elite schmooze up to Sen. Lieberman, when he's the primary proponent to CENSOR Hollywood. Remember back when everyone was blaming the Matrix for Columbine? Who do you think was one of those people? Lieberman. When will Hollywood get a clue? VOTE NADER! ;]

***MORE GRATUITIOUS STAR WARS SPOILERS***
A whole plethora of new Star Wars rumors have cropped up about the plot of the next prequel. Be forewarned. Here's the rumored plot spoilers:

*Episode II is darker.
I so hope so. If Lucas gives me a gruesome Jar Jar execution, I shall forgive all. Even the Ewoks.

*We discover the stormtroopers are clones.
Apperently, this means that ALL stormtroopers are clones. Even the ones we see in the original films. I'm not sure how to take this. By making them clones, you strip them of their humanity. One could argue that, by placing them in those idential white armor suits you are already stripping them of their humanity, but I still sort of like the idea that they people in the suits are real people, swayed by the seductive evil of the empire, not just thousands of carbon copies.

*It features a galactic war and the romance between Anakin and Amidala
No surprise here.

*Fett's father is Jango Fett played by Temuera Morrison. Daniel Logan plays a young Boba Fett.
I've heard this rumor before, so perhaps there is truth to it. Morrison, for those who aren't familiar with him, does a wonderful job in the drama "Once Were Warriors", which I recommend. Unfortunately, since Fett is a kid, we won't see any cool Boba ass-kicking this time around.

*The article also mentions old rumors about Obi-Wan possibly being a clone (which are VERY old and probably not true).
If Lucas has a head on his shoulder, this had better NOT be true.

*At the end of the movie, of course, is the moment we're all waiting for: when Anakin (Hayden Christensen) turns to the dark side and becomes the young Darth Vader. But I think you'll agree that his motives -- at least at first -- are pure. Anakin goes bad because he wants to be a hero and save the life of someone very, very close to him.
I'm willing to bet that this someone is in fact his mother. I'd recommend the new Star Wars novel "Rogue Planet" by Greg Bear. It's a decent read, and gives some good foreshadowing of Anakin's turn to the Dark Side.

*And while we're all wondering about Anakin's fate, another character we've always known as a good guy will betray the Rebel Alliance.
This is the most intriguing piece of info. Who could it be? Bail Organa? Obi-Wan Kenobi? A Jedi....such as Mace Windu? I'm hoping it's Jar Jar, which would give Anakin the excuse for the really gruesome execution mentioned above.
****END SPOILERS****

In other entertainment news, the USA series "La Femme Nikita" may not be so canceled after all. It had been given the axe because, after four seasons, it's contract had run out....but two recent USA programs that have debuted this summer "The War Next Door" and "Manhattan AZ" have done dismally in the ratings, so there is serious consideration to renew Nikita's contract.
I would like this, because Peta Wilson, aka Nikita, is one of the sexiest women on television. No question. She'd make the Pope think impure thoughts.

And Robert Downey Jr., fresh from his release from jail, has signed on to star in the next season of Ally McBeal. He'll play her love interest. It's amazing--the guy's a cokehead, he breaks into somebody's home and falls asleep naked in their bed, he gets sent to jail--and when he gets out, his career is white hot. Have I missed something?
And for those as sick and evil as me, I'll be beginning the Robery Downey Jr. Death Pool very soon.

MTV: Okay, I have a rant about this....I HATE MTV. They shouldn't even call it Music Television anymore, cause whenever I turn on the TV, I see the 204th rerun of this week's episode of the Real World / Road Rules, or I see Carson freakin' Daly's face plastered everywhere. When they DO play any music at all, it's N*Sync, or Britney Spears, or Backstreet Boys, or Sisqo, all people who make me slightly more homicidal than usual. Their idea of playing a rock song is to throw in a Kid Rock or Limp Bizkit video, and if there is actually anybody I hate even more than those poor boy and girl bands, it's those too wastes of skin. At least the Backstreet Boys and N*Sync know they're a fad, and that they're having as much fun as they can. Kid Rock and Fred Durst have deluded themselves into thinking they're actually talented, which is just sad, because they aren't. And it's gotten worse. Hell, I can remember when MTV at least aired 120 minutes on Sunday night. It was only 2 hours of videos, but at least we got 2 hours of good metal and alternative videos. Now they don't even have that. I try to tune into 120 minutes, and what do I get? A hour of Goddamned "Undressed". What kind of pathetic soft-core crap is this? If I want to watch soft-core porn, I'll tune into Skinemax, where at least you're guaranteed exposed breasts. No music videos. No music videos to be found anywhere.
As far as I can tell, the only way to actually watch MTV and see music videos--real music videos--is to watch MTV2, which my lame ass cable company doesn't carry. Nowadays, if I want to watch music videos, I have to turn to VH1, and then I have to sit through a dozen Savage Garden or Mariah Carey vids to see a decent video, and even then the most "hardcore" video they'll play is Stone Temple Pilots. Or Vertical Horizon. It's ridiculous. I never thought anything would make me want to live anywhere else, but I've been proven wrong. I may have to move to Italy to get my quality music videos.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, August 14, 2000 11:23:31 PM
IP: cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Awww...you guys are so sweet! But I've recovered from my illness, AND I LIVE AGAIN! Ha ha ha. I think it was a 24 hour flu. Thanks for the get well wishes, they really helped :)
SOROW
Monday, August 14, 2000 10:51:21 PM
IP: dll2a030-0723.splitrock.net

DPH - No, Pendragon starts tomorrow, not today. We're airing it on Tuesdays this season, like we did the first one.

In other news, today, August 14, was the date of Macbeth's overthrow of Duncan in 1040 in actual history - and tomorrow, August 15, was the date of Canmore's victory over Macbeth in 1057.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, August 14, 2000 08:16:23 PM
IP: 216.87.46.212.dialup-stl.primary.net

Daniel Johnson - for fun, I oughta send you my RP post and let you post it and see how many people notice. Or since we think so much alike, one day I pretend to be you and you pretend to be me.

**RP RELATED**
I finally updated the archive of BFTS RP completely on my personal homepage and egroups. Winterwolf, from now on, whenever I update the archive at egroups, there will be a message posted about that so you can keep up with when it is updated.
**END RP RELATED**

1 more paycheck until I can afford to buy a new PC, hopefully. I went to the doctor today about sinus problems and got pencillin to take care of a small sinus infection. I also got antihistimines.

**MATH PUZZLE**
Actually, the better equation for find the square root of i is 1/2 + i - 1/2 = i. The square root of 2i is much easier to do.
**END MATH PUZZLE**

No BFTS RP from me today. I was planning on letting Winterwolf chime in before I go anywhere next with DPH & company.

Did I not hear something about Pendragon coming out Today? Or was it supposed to be tomorrow?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, August 14, 2000 06:52:02 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

Xanathar> I know Evangelion vol 1 is out on DVD. I think it has 4 episodes on it, but I don't remember for certain. I haven't seen any later volumes yet, but I haven't been looking. You might try checking out www.animeondvd.com. They're usually pretty current.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 14, 2000 03:52:28 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*hurls assorted mixed nuts at Warpwind*

Monday, August 14, 2000 03:08:15 PM
IP: pppta02-277.ght.airmail.net

*Warpmind slides in, puffing on a cigar (sorry; last one).*

Well, I just read Christine's G2K review... don't be *too* surprised if I set some freaky new world record coming June, like "First to cross from Norway to USA in hangglider" or something as completely nutso... ;)

Oh, where Diablo II is concerned... are my ears decieving me, or is that guy in the cutscenes called "Marius"? That's CREEPY! ('Course, I doubt any of you guys find it equally creepy...)

By the way: a story I was told by my fellow Callahanian Shadowcat; this is certifiable cause for peanut barrages, so I'm diving for cover after this one:
Once upon a time, there was a great, fire-breathing dragon, who lived a normal dragon lifestyle, with a normal dragon diet, except for one small detail: each month, he ate one bard. Now, this dietary anomaly caused him distress to no end, and one month he managed to catch a skilled cleric. The cleric, after learning of the dragon's plight, set forth to study, and eventually, after ll the research was done, he returned to the dragon, bringing a larke cask of Mydol.
"You've got two options, my dear dragon," he said, "Either you quit your monthly snack, or you eat these pills, and the pills won't cure the problem."
The dragon took a deep breath, "Why?"
"Because there is no known cure for Minstrel Cramps."

*Runs off into safety.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 14, 2000 02:42:25 PM
IP: mp-217-218-140.daxnet.no

*Warpmind enters, quietly singing "The Eternal Gargoyle" (latest filk - it'll be seen eventually).*
Howdy-do. Good news. Almost done with the first major chapter of my Call of Cthulhu campaign, and I'll probably send it and the summary to the revered Lynn Willis of Chaosium sometime this week. :) Progress is accelerating, gang. :)

Niamhgold: Crud. You just HAD to figure out the puzzle on first attempt, didn't ya? ;) Believe me, I've had more than one person start fishing for MORE information. :)

Shadowrider: Yuo say Andariel was a piece of cake? I'm prone to agree... the next one is MUCH tougher, with the bad habit of freezing you. Enjoy. ];) Oh, and I hear what you say about the EU - I just have a nagging hunch that my worst-case-scenario might come true one day. Oh, and as for why we wind up discussing politics? Beats me... fnord.

Oooo, Christine's finished her summary of G2K... must go read... later.

Sorow: Well, I reckon most "normal" people might consider us ALL in here to be pretty sick. Oh, wait... you mean as in "caught disease"... uh, get well soon, y'hear? :|

Gside: Would the tax savings be that big? Um... *calculate* Lessee... regular sales tax in the US is generally between 8 and 10%, right? In norway, it's 23% (and rising), plus a plethora of more-or-less improbable specific taxes, such as the the latest aneurism from our government: an additional 10% technology tax that is to be spent on recycling electronics, or disposing of them properly. Now, I'm not against such a concept, but by Intel, computers are already expensive enough over here!

Lynne Like: Cute story. :) That oughtta teach such scoundrels never to mess with cute little ladies again. :)

Well, gotta go.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 14, 2000 01:09:48 PM
IP: mp-217-213-137.daxnet.no

Hi everyone! I'm still living, and still love Gargoyles. Hope everyone is doing well--I haven't taken the time to read all the posts, just a few.

Jannie, are you doing ok? Haven't heard back from you, so I'm a little concerned. But then I had emails bounce back this weekend due to a friend's sending me a bunch of pics (at my request), so you may have replied and I didn't get it. Same for Winterwolf (whom I have missed also!).

Spacebabie: you're not the only one with a hornet phobia! Around here, I have Cicada Killers which actually are the largest in the wasp family reaching 2 inches long! They're not supposed to be agressive toward humans, but everytime I walk out the door, they buzz around me. So, I do like you and run screaming back into the house most of the time. Or, I carry a shovel and knock 'em out of the air. I hate to kill them because they're beneficial and get rid of all the cicadas around here, but I do what I have to do!

Jenna!! You got a writing contract! That's wonderful!! Congrats congrats, and more congrats! I told you you had what it takes, didn't I??

I have a little story to share...
My sister-in-law Linda is now one of my heroes, and I feel should be nominated an honorary Gargoyle. On Friday, she had gone to the bank at lunch to cash her and my MIL's checks and brought Momo her money on her way back to work. She left her purse sitting in her car 'cos she figured she wouldn't be in Momo's house for long. A 6' 7" 15 year old kid rode by on a bike and took the purse and ran! My other SIL Helen ran into the yard screaming "Drop that @#$%$#@ purse NOW!" Linda jumped in her car and gave chase. She followed him into an alley (still in the car!), and knocked him off the bike! He told her that he had dropped the purse on the street and she could just go get it. She said, "Oh, no buddy, you're coming with me!" and proceeded to grab his shirt tightly around his waist and walk him all the way back to Momo's house where the kid's mom and the police were waiting! ROTFL I can just see it! Now, mind you, Linda is maybe 5' 3 or 4" tall dragging this huge kid down the street. He kept saying, "Let go of me, woman" She'd just say "NOPE!" and grasp tighter on his shirt, reading him the riot act--"I work my A$$ off for my money, you can go to work too you little bast@##". The kid's mother was all too happy that he had been caught because she told them that she couldn't seem to do anything with him. He's now on his way to boot camp. I just hope they don't change their minds and sue Linda for assault with a deadly weapon since a car can be considered one. Linda did get her purse and money back, thanks to a kind lady who was watching the goings on, and picked it up for her.
Anyway, that was our excitement for the weekend!

Later...

Lynne :)
Lynne Like - [mjlike@yahoo.com]
Monday, August 14, 2000 12:27:33 PM
IP: fw1.directlink.net

Sorrow>>Eck I hate being ill, hope you get better soon, until then make sure you eat the plenty of
Chicken and rice soup
toast
jello
applesauce
frenchfries((Especially if you have been vomiting, when you can eat solid food you need to replenish your salt.)) and drink plenty of
juice
Gatoraid
herbal teas
and don't take Nyquil aka the nighttime sniffling,bodyaches, howtheheckdidIenduponthekitchenfloor? medicin, take Theraflu instead
Kyrnn>>>SAD...uh actually I was thinking more of Social Anxiety Disorder

35 days till the troll ships of
9 days till classes start
5 days till New Cartoon season((Cyber six and Escaflowne looks interesting))
1 day til New Pendragon...I believe.

Wineterwolfand Lexy>> glad you made it back allright.

Guess who had a hornet fly in her face today? Guess who has a phobia of hornets? Guess who smacked with the morning newspaper and ran screaming into the house?...yeah me

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, August 14, 2000 11:31:46 AM
IP: user-37kapfk.dialup.mindspring.com

Firestorm>> Yep, GXB is correct -- that's one of George Harrison's aliases, Peter Mason. He used Peter's cover as a stockbroker to filter funds out of the Quarrymen's hidden investments in "When the Bough Breaks." As one of Jon Canmore's inner circle, Harrison had the access codes to those accounts and used the money to hire Sevarius to reverse his Changling factor. That all fell through, of course....

Patrick>> Yep, got your email -- glad you liked the surprise! (I'm a little behind in my mail -- had a wisdom tooth pulled last week.)
Spike
Monday, August 14, 2000 09:33:28 AM
IP: pppt03-02.ght.iadfw.net

Oh, yeah...I forgot...

Adios! (Heck, I'm just one of those people who need closure:)

Niamhgold
Monday, August 14, 2000 09:14:22 AM
IP: lac-flex246.ncia.net

** Niamhgold's in for a quickie **

Patrick: <Don't know where you got those dates> I don't know where I got them, either! ** Blushes sheepishly ** Oopsy daisy! But now I feel a whole lot better. If it's in June, I can _really_, _really_ consider going! (But it would have to be w/ other people from the east since I know nothing about California, except that my aunt lives in Sacramento)...Hey, now *there's* an idea! :D

Shadowrider: So Italy's MTV popularity concentrates on music and *animation*? It's almost the opposite here...more people seem to like the dopey shows like Real World, TRL (I met Carson Daly once in NY :)), and Road Rules than they like Daria. But I'm looking forward to the Daria movie...man, half of my art class calls me Daria *without* knowing my real name! :)

Gside: I agree with you about Christine getting away with small published copies of her book...I'd buy a nice, bound copy of "Breeding Season" or something :) Ah, so the idea that the universe is base thirteen has again arisen ;) If that was a widely-accepted ideal, would that mean Friday the 13 would replace Sunday as a day of rest and prayer? No longer shall those who _like_ Fri. the 13th be persecuted as weird!!!

Joxter: Good to know you're still out there! I'm here, too :)

SOROW: If you *feel* like you're on your deathbed, it's probably the flu (that d@mnable conglomeration of germs). But never fear, Nyquil is here! Get better soon! :D

Niamhgold
Monday, August 14, 2000 09:12:23 AM
IP: lac-flex246.ncia.net

Hi all!!

Question:Does anybody know if all of the Neon genesis:Evangelion episodes have been converted to DVD yet?,I got a DVD player for my birthday and I've been running around updating my Anime collection.

SOROW:Check your email Happy queen. :)

Xenatrek:<<I got a glance at your previous post before it got wiped... I though it was part of a slang that came over time, just like we Canadians call Newfoundland: "Newfies", and other countrys call the Canadians: "Canuks". Thanks, you are a great help *hugs*. I wasn't thinking of the Munchkins... I was gonna ask about the Emeral City *LOL*.>> *Hugs back* I'm glad I was able to help. :),thanks for the slang explinations,I've often wondered who they were a referance to.

Winterwolf:welcome back!

I've gotta go,take care.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Monday, August 14, 2000 08:33:07 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

Hi, just a few rows...

Fire Storm:> MTV: they tried to show "Road Rules" here, but it was a flop...here they base their strategies on music and animation (for example, they showed "Cowboy Bebop" with a great audience)

Winterwolf:> <<Anyone miss me?>> Me, for example...:)

SOROW:> I'm sorry to hear of you're in troubles. You have my thoughts.

See you later.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Monday, August 14, 2000 07:48:19 AM
IP: h213-18-125.mi2.albacom.net

Gside:
"I think you are haveing too much fun with these math buns." Are they anything like sticky buns? Mmm... sticky buns.

"I think I've been good." Well, you're different; you're not most people. You're an engineer. ;)
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XenaTrek:
No problem. And the colors do look similar, although they're not the same. I tried a different color once, but it...bothered me. I don't like change. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, August 14, 2000 07:02:19 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-69-167.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

DHP vs. Daniel Johnson: >> Sorry guys... I was skimming thru the room rather than reading it... plus I think you two post the same color as well. Thanks Daniel for having a copy of last week's post. Again, sorry about that.

Winterwolf: > Re: Anyone miss me? >> Yes! Welcome back buddy *hugs*.

Hollow Man: >> One of college friends was one of the FX guys in the movie (the compositor), so I had to go see it. The movie itself was ok... the ending was very weak... they kinda left us hanging dry. The FX was super... I do recommend you see for at least that very reason. Someday my name will be up there in the credits as well, so be sure to watch out for it.

Later.

Later.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, August 14, 2000 05:52:20 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Well, looking through the room I feel a bit shallow now...

Sorow- Get better soon! And like someone else said, none of this death bed stuff!
Joxter - [Joxter@fanboy.org]
Monday, August 14, 2000 02:42:50 AM
IP: spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com

So it appears that my last post has been sent to the magic bucket that contains all lost bits. I don't think I said much, except for the bit about jello molds, and that Mme. Destine(s) are just. That good. Oh yeah, and the mp3 will be a tad late, but does anyone really care? (half sarcasm, though I do only have two confirmed downloaders)

Fire Storm> <<Interesting note:>>: Interesting note #2: The instructions for installing TWAIN in Photoshop also happen to be Heero Yui's bio-readout.
<<Wouldn't it really be sqrt(i)=(4,/-1)>>: That too, but it doesn't allow you to use the trickery that I used. And really, all it was was trickery, because i^4=1 is not the same statement as i=4,/1. And does that ,/ notation really make much sense?
<<The universe is base 13? Hmm... That explains... not too much!>>: You mean other than the fundamental assymetry of existance?

Warpmind> <>: I said twenty, Niamhgold agreed with me and said eighteen.
Leaving Norway: But you'd also leave behind all those social projects for privately funded similar services, so is the tax savings really that much?

Daniel Johnson> <<That was supposed to be the "pi" symbol>>: Ahh, at first I assumed you were trying to do an actual root symbol. I think you are haveing too much fun with these math buns. Not that I'm blaming you.

Random other math puzzle: a^x + b^x=c^x. This is true for x<=2. Prove it is impossible for x>=3 in under 50 pages, but more than a margin.

Mrs. Morgan> art/writing rant: I'd think you could get away with selling booklets, especially if done nicely **dreams of thin leatherbound books**. Perhaps the difference to the copyright holders is that writers come up with new situations for their characters, while artists can be passed off as showcasing already existing characters and/or events.

DPH> puzzle: I'm thinking complete the square on 1+i-1=i, which I don't feel like doing right now (plus, I've mostly forgotten).

Lexy> <<one year of Sexy Lexy>>: So you were that stalker. No, wait, she (that's allegedly a she) had more x's.

SOROW> May you recover soon, to better health than you had before.

Winterwolf> <<Anyone miss me?>>: Heck yeah. There's been a recent dearth of lyncanthropes lately. Elves too, for that matter.

Daniel Johnson> <<We just seem to look too much alike for most people>>: I think I've been good. Especially after DPH switched to initials.

I'll try to be good and get the mp3 out after my exam tomorrow (today).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, August 14, 2000 02:41:50 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Asante Sana Squash Banana We We Nugu Mimi Apana...

Guess what movie I just got through watching for the first time in a while?

In any event, sorry I have not posted much here lately, but with so many people at the Gathering other than myself and stuff, I haven't really felt the need to say anything... I'm still here though...
Joxter
Monday, August 14, 2000 01:53:21 AM
IP: spider-wo043.proxy.aol.com

Firestorm> Peter Mason was one of George Harrison's aliases. The other being Jayce Roberts.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:58:49 PM
IP: cache-01.nyc.bestweb.net

TGS Staff and pretty much anyone else TGS knowledgeable:
What is this guys full name?
Is he a pre-existing character?
Af far as I know his name is P. Mason
Heck, maybe he was never in a story.
Anyway, what does the P stand for? LM needs to know for the voting statistic page and I need to know so I can edit the coding for the CR.

Thanx!
Fire Storm - [<--- Who is this?]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:40:26 PM
IP: 02-167.008.popsite.net

Catch up time...

jenna:
Oops, missed it before, but congratulations on the contract!
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Winterwolf:
Sure we missed you. As far as I can remember. :)
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XenaTrek:
"Thanks for having a copy of last week's comments." You're welcome. It's a good thing my machine is set to back up its hard drive every night, otherwise the cached page would have gone bye bye. Oh, and as DPH already pointed out, I'm The Other Daniel. ;) How to tell the difference? I use those silly dash separators, like this...
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Christine:
The essay was great! Thanks for posting it. I REALLY want to go next year; we'll see.
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DPH:
I guess it doesn't matter how often we try to tell people that weÕre not the same person, does it? We just seem to look too much alike for most people. Of course, that creates many opportunities to mess with people's heads. >:)
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SOROW:
Sick bad! No be sick!
And none of this dying stuff either; it's simply not acceptable and won't be tolerated.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:20:34 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-69-167.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Sorow- However bad you feel, I rather hope you aren't on your deathbed! Being sick is one thing, and being miserable is another, and both at once is always bad, but deathbed? In any event, whatever ails you, thoughts are turned toward ya.
Robby
Sunday, August 13, 2000 10:40:51 PM
IP: spider-wd083.proxy.aol.com

Spike > In case you didn't get my e-mail, thanks for the TGS pics you sent to G2K for me. :)

Niamhgold > I dunno where you got that info, but the dates we have tentatively scheduled for G2001 are June 22-25, 2001 (which that should be way before your classes begin). And I say tentatively meaning it's pretty certain by it won't be 100% sure until the negotiations with the hotel are finalized.

Also, I'd like to say to everyone, please... the Gathering 2001 is still 10 months away! It's way to early to decide you're not able to attend! Please go read the latest in "Ask Greg," over at Station 8, and start thinking up ways that you CAN get to Los Angeles, and be there IN BODY as well as in spirit! Whether it's by plane, train, or automobile... the Fifth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles wants YOU! All the letters and photographs and signed posters in the world won't mean as much to Disney towards the goal of getting the show back on the air as a huge crowd of live screaming costumed "Gargoyles" fans. So use your frequent flyer miles. Use priceline.com. Form carpools with other fans. Grab up tickets in Greyhound or Amtrack during a "take a friend along for free" sale. Do whatever you have to to BE THERE AT G2001!

I'll see everyone in Los Angeles! The countdown to G2001 begins soon!
Patrick Toman
Sunday, August 13, 2000 10:26:52 PM
IP: ac8ff6ff.ipt.aol.com

Everyone please pray for me cause I feel like I'm on my death bed. I've been sick and miserable.
SOROW
Sunday, August 13, 2000 09:43:36 PM
IP: dll2a020-1108.splitrock.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey, all? Whassup? Seems kinda slow in here today, or maybe that's just because today's my day off and I'm _scaring_ you all away... :) Just kidding!

Christine: Thank you SO much for sharing that essay with us--me, especially! You're writings make me *really* want to go to future gatherings (for me, it's not so much a lack of money as it's the fact that school/work won't let me do this sort of thing; Gathering 2001 is supposed to end on Aug. 27, and next year's classes start before that)! I'm glad Becca had fun, she's going to have quite a childhood to look back on! I loved all the costumes, too!
Oh, and I also agree with you on the point made about the artists being able to sell work. When I made my art for this year, I was not sure if I could use either the title of the show or characters from the show in them (because, hey, they told us not to use the show's characters on the T-shirts). And then I asked if I had to make some sort of disclaimer, as you have to do on fanfic. But thanks for pointing out the Silver Flame thing in your essay...because I didn't really know it existed until now! (I know, I know, I should pay more attention :) Anyway, thank you very much for the Essay!
BTW: Tim made a diorama of the _Weird Sisters?_ Man, that's so cool! Did he win anything for it?
Winterwolf: Of _course_ we missed you! I also sent you a welcome back e-mail. ** Hugz **

Adios!
Niamhgold
Sunday, August 13, 2000 09:27:26 PM
IP: lac-flex144.ncia.net

Firestorm>> Here's an early look at the Daria movie....
Spike
Sunday, August 13, 2000 08:46:34 PM
IP: pppt04-211.ght.iadfw.net

ALL RIGHT! I'm back *stretches* man my feet hurt! *rubs her sore taloned tootsies* 2 Conventions in a row. Fun but tiring. *wipes her eyes a bit* *looks over at Kaioto-chan* I miss you so much love. Well anyway, the Gathering was GREAT!!! I didn't dress up this year...one year of Sexy Lexy was enough for me thank you very much! But I did get to sit by Thom Adcox for the dinner, and the power was off so we had to eat by candle light *sighs* *looks at everyone* YAYA well..thats as close to a romantic dinner with Thom as I'll ever get! *LOL* *jk* The art this year was AWSOME!! We have SUCH a talented fandome ya know?? Well, as others have probably mentioned already we want to have as many ppl show up to next years Gathering as humanly possible! So START SAVING NOW!! The date isn't ..excuse the pun, set in stone yet. A lot of ppl couldn't make a June Gathering due to school and all, me included, so hopfully that will change. COME ON PPL! Beg your parents! Fine some roomies! Stuff those piggy banks! *g* WE NEED YOU! *points a talon* Well, I had better go do laundry, make some phone calls, and clean..*pouts* see ya!

Lexy
Sunday, August 13, 2000 06:41:59 PM
IP: spider-wk031.proxy.aol.com

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, the most updated archive is at Egroups; for some reason, I could not get to FTP with my ISP. I have yet to update it with this week's RP. It is a good thing I saved the room after my last RP post. I will be updating the archive soon.
**END RP RELATED**

For the xth time, I do not archive the room periodically; that was Daniel Johnson's doing. I only save the room when the last BFTS RP post of the week comes through. As soon as I update the archive, I delete the file.

**MATH PUZZLE**
Let's review my hints so far for what the square root of i is:
1)1+1=2
2)1-1=0
3)think about how to create the quadratic formula
I will add the first step in determining the square root of i.
i = i is the 1st step.
**END MATH PUZZLE**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 05:19:54 PM
IP: max1-27.cwy.cei.net

Hi guys!
Not much to say.Just thought I'd drop by and let everyone know I'm still alive.
Brooklyn - [brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 02:38:10 PM
IP: usr68.cqc.com

It's finally done! Christine's traditional essay is up for its fourth year running, and longer than ever; this bastard is some twenty pages long! Plus over a hundred photos
in the Photo Album (Xoom is finicky, so you may have to reload a couple of times to see them all). Clickie or go to
http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/gathering_00_text.html

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:04:25 PM
IP: 15-135.009.popsite.net

DHP: > Re: Copy of last week's Comments >> Thanks for having a copy of last week's comments.

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. :> Re: Hi there! I didn't know there were moore garg-fans here in the Sunshne State. :) Also surprised to learn you're deaf(?).. should be interesting to meet you if you ever come over by Tampa. >>

I'm not deaf yet (although some people tend to think I am when I ask them to speak up), I'm more in the hard-of-hearing category... I can only hear up to 86% in my right ear with use of a hearing aid. W/O it... I can only hear about 65%. My left ear has been (although audiologist have been trying to convince me otherwise) is 'gone'... only hear about 25%. You'll have to come this way also if you have a chance... Coyote told me quite a bit about you... maybe we can meet in the middle or something.

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 12:25:16 PM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

*** The following is a Public Service Announcement ***

I just found a slightly more recent copy of the previous CR; it's up to 8:23 pm.

Click my name to get it.

*** This has been a Public Service Announcement ***
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 12:01:16 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-69-167.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**Winterwolf enters for a quickie**

Hi! Anyone miss me? I'm still in Florida. I'll be heading home tomorrow. As you probably guessed I didn't get the labtop. :( Oh well. Look forward to a normal post tomorrow. I missed you guys!! See you.
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Still in, Florida
Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:26:27 AM
IP: user-37katgd.dialup.mindspring.com

Xanathar: > Re: OZ >> I got a glance at your previous post before it got wiped... I though it was part of a slang that came over time, just like we Canadians call Newfoundland: "Newfies", and other countrys call the Canadians: "Canuks". Thanks, you are a great help *hugs*. I wasn't thinking of the Munchkins... I was gonna ask about the Emeral City *LOL*.

Firestorm: > Re: Coming up to Michigan >> I'll give plenty of notice... and don't worry too much about your ASL skills... as long as we're in a 'small environment' and 'one to one' (up to a few to one)... we should do just fine.

Later guys! *hugs*
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 11:19:36 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Firestorm>(quietly) Don't admit it outloud or the universe might hear you
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 09:45:01 AM
IP: dialup-209.245.47.217.sandiego1.level3.net

a poster for non gathering goers- now that is a great idea!!

looking forward to the new eps!@ yea! happy happy dancing!

Thanks to all for their well wishes on the writing contract- blush. Needless to say, i'm excited. I'll be incredibly busy- but I'm glad I will be- with both this job and the one from 9 to 5 I find my mind is getting a work out it hasn't had since college, which is good because in my previous jobs I was finding my self bored from time to time.

well toodles!
jenna
Sunday, August 13, 2000 09:39:17 AM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.stafford.tx.da.uu.net

** Niamhgold pops in for a quickie **

Cripes, a double-wipe! Dangit! :)

Warpmind's math puzzle: I made an attempt in last week's CR, but it got wiped, so here's my answer...If *I'm* the captain, that would make the captain 18 years old :)

Fire Storm: <G2001 Non-attendee poster> Sounds like a grand-tastic idea!

Aloha :)
NIamhgold
Sunday, August 13, 2000 09:01:22 AM
IP: lac-flex180.ncia.net

Hi all!!

XenaTrek:I don't know weather you got to see my post before last weeks CR got wiped out so I'll try and repeat my reply to your question but I honestly don't know the answer,I'd guess that the slang word "Oz" just evolved over time. (and no there are no Munchkins living over here,my life is insane enough without their helium enduced antics. ;)) I'm sorry I can't be more helpful to you. :(

Fire Storm:<<Lets hope they aquire the System Shock license too!>>Last I heard,Irrational studios still had the System Shock licence(apparently their supposed to be working on the Dreamcast version of SS2),but this is no bad thing seeing as Irrational did develope SS2 and after LG went down most of it's employees joined Irrational (Last time I heard anyway)

I've Gotta go,take care.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sunday, August 13, 2000 08:05:46 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

See what happens when I get lax in archiving the CR? Sigh. I have up to Green Baron's post from 2:30 pm Saturday. Click my name to go there.
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Fire Storm:
Yeah, I know I was wrong about the sqrt(i) thing. I was making it to complicated. Or should I say complex? :)
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Gside:
Ack! That was supposed to be the "pi" symbol. Stupid character encodings...

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 07:32:55 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-69-167.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Top Ten! This thing of updating the CR in Saturday night is good to me, I can make it in Top Ten without effort.
There's not last week's CR, so I don't know if there's something else to say...replies later

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, August 13, 2000 05:15:27 AM
IP: h213-46-143.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind pops in.*
Damn. Last week's CR is gone, and I didn't get to check for even answers to my math puzzle... any attempts?

Fire Storm: Would I ever move out of Norway, even if it was to the US? Hmmm... lessee... it would mean leave Europe permanently, to an area where, in all likelyhood, I'd be able to visit a con, any con, sometime, and I'd have shorter ways to meet most of the gang here... it would mean leave preposterous taxes, a *really* crappy selection of badly dubbed-or-subtitled TV shows and movies... hmmm... you know something? I'd do it in the blink of an eye. (But only if I fumbled with my shoelaces - I'd be quicker otherwise.)

By the way... Top Ten?
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, August 13, 2000 05:10:18 AM
IP: mp-217-202-235.daxnet.no

top ten!

Joe Boxer
Sunday, August 13, 2000 02:30:26 AM
IP: spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com

CR Info Note!

Ok, LM checked and she has up to Thursday August 10, 11:42:17 PM.

If anyone has any better, please post a link to it in this room or e-mail it to the address below.

LM will probally update the archive (linked below) tonight or so, and she hopes to have the statistics for the CR pic voting up soon.

AS for when the new pics will be available... I hope soon, but it all depends on what Gorebash decides to do with the CR coding. If he totally re-vamps the coding, we will have to learn and/or hack it to accomidate the images.
Fire Storm - [fs-lm@usa.net]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 02:19:45 AM
IP: 01-115.008.popsite.net

<FS pulls out his dual mini-guns and turns DC into many bite-sized pieces>
THATS for nukeing the CR!
(I checked my Cache... Not there. :(

Since the CR was killed, I take it is not too bad if I repost, eh?

Emambu:<Wait a minute... you're being sued because you won't return some losers phone calls?>
Yeah, but I think he was bluffing. I haven't heard back from him.

Warpmind: <Admittedly, there are advantages to living in Norway>
Yeah...
But, out of curiousity, would you ever move out of Norway? Even if it was to move to the US?

Wilek: <Um...sorry, wasn't here back then.>
Ah. Ok. Hmm... Who DID start the RP?
Dang it! I guess I gotta go through the archives :(

Robby: <Well that's a rather mean teaser!>
I know! <VERY evil grin!>
I think they will have a maraton before the movie.
You HAVE to see that episode! It was SO cool! made ALOT of tension!
And Niamhgold was right. Trent DID play a big part in that episode!
<ANyone have a fairly recent archive of last week's postings?>
LM said she may have one from earlier today.
Man, I am glad I saved my post!

Spike: <It's rumored that it's going to tie up all the loose plot threads from this season>
Uh oh. I don't like the sound of that. It sounds too much like a SERIES finale.

Abbadon_13: <Are you serious about the Gargoyles coming back on TV??>
All things are true.
Time shall tell if this is the path taken.

XenaTrek: 
Yeah... we wanted to meet you and everyone else we have met and missed at previous Gatherings.
I hope you can come up here soon. (And give us a little notice. It will give LM and I a chance to brush up on our (very rusty) ASL)

Gathering 2001 NON-ATTENDEES: How WOULD you like to be there in spirit? What do you think of having a poster with everyone who couldn't make it, preferably with costumes on?

Entity: <There's gonna be a MOVIE?!>
Made for TV movie. But a movie none-the-less.

Shadowrider: <So, MTV follows different strategies in the various countries?>
It appears so. To MTV-US, the reality based shows seem to have the most clout. (Music Awards, Real World, Road Rules, ETC)

He is a parton saint in Michigan. 80-100% humidity days are VERY common here. But we haven't had a 40° C day here in quite some time. This summer we really haven't hit 35° C yet. And by now we SHOULD have at LEAST 5 days above 35° C.
(Note: °C = (°F - 32) X 5/9) and °F = (°C X 9/5) + 32

DPH: <What is the square root of i equal to?>
i, by it's definition, is the square root of -1 and is not real (an imiginary number)
So... I think it would be the quad root of -1, which is a real mess.

Daniel Johnson: <i^2 = i therefore sqrt(i) = i>
Hmm.. that dosn't sound right. The only number (to my knowledge) that equels it's square root is 1.

Jannie: <Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.>
Wasn't Twain/Clemmens a member of congress himself?

Interesting note: TWAIN (The scanner interface) means Technology Without An Interesting Name

Gside: <sqrt(i)=sqrt(4,/1)=sqrt(1)=1>
Really? Oh wait... Nope. Sorry. Wouldn't it really be sqrt(i)=(4,/-1) ?
And sqrt(i)=(6,/1)?
<No, no, no, 6x9=42, which implies that the fundamental base of the universe is 13>
The universe is base 13? Hmm... That explains... not too much! :)

Xanathar: <Warren Spectre of Ion Storm...has been able to aquire the "Thief" licence>
Lets hope they aquire the System Shock license too!

James Birdsong: <Horray for Firestorm>
Ahh... but for what? Figuring out life's biggest question?

Madame Destine: <Lest anyone fear this is the end for the stories of Madame Destine, though, I can assure you that there will be more.>
YEAH!
Now, all I have to do is figure out what the proposal was...
<Something about having a Dominique Destine pic in here>
Keep yer pantyhose on! Were working one it!
if you want to see the DD pic that is probally going to be here, go to:
http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/destine.jpg

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:55:35 AM
IP: 03-206.008.popsite.net

Uhm, this is rather wierd. I just wiped the CR, and it looks like some kind of burp in the system double wiped it. I dunno how, that *SHOULD* be immpossible... The basic process of wiping the CR involves going to a password protected room, and clicking *a* button. Upon the click of that button, the screen reverts to the CR and the room is cleared... (And its impossible to double click said button.) A double wipe should not be possible.

*Sighs* Whatever happened, and I'm guessing its just some wierd fluke, last week seems to be gone now. ANyone have a fairly recent archive of last week's postings? Or any archive of it at all for that matter? (I suppose I should start archiving the room before I clear it...)
Robby
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:42:56 AM
IP: spider-to018.proxy.aol.com

Top ten! :P
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:41:51 AM
IP: ctrts2-3.mrs.umn.edu

Forth!
Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:39:47 AM
IP: melnc02.bigpond.com

3rd.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:34:15 AM
IP: proxy2-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

2nd... what happened to last week's postings? It leads to a blank page.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:32:31 AM
IP: nas-224-152.orlando-t.navipath.net

Top Ten!!! First or second, possibly. :)
Kitainia
Sunday, August 13, 2000 01:31:07 AM
IP: pool-209-138-163-191.dlls.grid.net