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****Digimon Spoilers****

James Birdsong> Actually Willis is 14th digi-destined, after the first 8, Davis, Yolei, Cody, Ken, and Michael (19th if you include the original 5 mentioned in season 1). Additionaly Willis doesn't come into the picture until 3 years after the events in the first season.

****END SPOILERS****

****TGS SPOILERS****

I enjoyed the last three episodes of Pendragon. Good job to all the TGS staff involved.

****END SPOILERS****

I'm getting laid off from my job at a golf course in the next 2-3 weeks. The wonders of seasonal work :). Though now I can put more focus on my 120% course load.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, October 7, 2000 11:19:19 PM
IP: dial-58.ocis.net

I forgot to put in name (points to post under me)
James Birdsong
Saturday, October 7, 2000 09:37:34 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-240.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Spacebabie> I prefer so weird. **Digimon movie Spoilers** Not good congruity with the show. I fail to see why Genii didn't mention Willis the 9th digi-destined in the show while the seven kids were seeking out the 8th :p **End Digimon movie Spoilers**
Anonymous
Saturday, October 7, 2000 09:36:50 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-240.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Hmm.

Incompotent management wants me to go to work tomorrow. Unfortunately, if everyone shows up who is supposed to, I should have no work tomorrow to do. However, if as many people show up for the other shifts as showed up on my shift, there will be plenty of work to do tomorrow. Meanwhile, there is a prediction that next weekend will be mandatory, too because of management not planning far enough ahead.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, October 7, 2000 06:53:03 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

Just finished up reading Pendragon and all I can say is: WOW! WHOA-HO! I LIKE IT! Well tomorrow I'll be heading off to Korea and I'm looking forward to getting there. I can't wait to starting learning about Korean culture first hand. Should be a bit of a challenge, I hear the Korean is a hard language to master. Anyway my computer will be shipped right behind me so I should be back here in a week or two with luck.

Traveler<leather jacket> Ok, but you understand of course that you'll have to wait until I get mine first. ;P

Babylon 5- After I saw it I had to go buy the video version and the soundtrack. I can't help it, I just can't get tired of watching it.

Wilek- I should be able to get the Internet there, but if not I'm told time really flies by fast.

See you later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Saturday, October 7, 2000 04:40:07 PM
IP: spider-wg084.proxy.aol.com

Real post later. Some things I want to include in my post I haven't told LM about yet.

For some reason she wants me to tell her private things or dreams before I share them with the world.

Go figure! :)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, October 7, 2000 12:54:22 PM
IP: 08-043.008.popsite.net

Thanks for all the sympathy's regaurding my injury

Coyote>>I'm sorry for your loss.

Abortion>>I'm aginst it on demand, for example someone is reckless and gets kncoked up because of it or if they just don't like the gender of the baby that is toatally worng.
If the woman may die, if the baby is deformed, and if the mother was reaped then I'm got it/

Of course i'm completely against Late Term, or Partlce birth abortion

Freakylinks...Has anyone seen this. I thought it was pretty cool. Of course its here in Central Florida.
and did you know www. freakylinks.com is an actualy website.

Neopets, I found this the other day and I think its neat. You design your virtual pet online. It gets a its own web page. Then you have to earn neopoints to buy supplies for it. One way is to play games. and these are fun
its located at www.neopes.com
the link is at the bottom also

Cybersix>>OK whats the deal with the goblins looking like Gargoyles? yeah gargoyles with a nose like the main villian. They return to their labrynth under ground during the daytime.
Spacebabie
Orlando, FL
Saturday, October 7, 2000 12:10:26 PM
IP: user-37kapf4.dialup.mindspring.com

Ack, I meant to say Tim, not Tom. Twas a typo.
Entity
Saturday, October 7, 2000 11:52:51 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Robby> So Kathy really *is* his sister... that's interesting. If just a tad overly-convenient. I'd heard about the manga backstories for the five characters. From what I'd glistened, it seems like they've given these 15-year-old pubescents the life stories of 40-year-old war veterans.

Sorow> That's awful. I cannot believe your mom would do such a thing. Especially over something she's not even willing to explain to you. Maybe you could use your dad to try and figure out just what the heck her issue is.

Green Baron> <<<but I shouldn't use the tactic I did. I apologize.>>>

It's okay.

<<<though a baby is not truly viable until they are about 5 or so.>>>

What do you mean? To me, trying to draw the line anywhere past birth is just playing with fire. It's way too tricky. The best bet is to say that when you're born, you're a human being. Sure, maybe an infant still doesn't possess the cerebral functions of a normal person, but neither might a severe retard.

Gside> <<<Noin rocks my world.>>>

I liked Noin too. But then, IMO, they really jipped her character in the last ten episodes or so of the series. She just became Zech's bitch, to put it crudely. I wanted her to play more of a role. I was expecting payoff after all the wonderful character development we got.

Tom> Well, I'm behind gun control. Yeah, you can say it's our right to own sub-machine guns, but honestly, in this particular case, I just don't care. I don't care if Billy-Bob can still go and rip open the chest of a deer with a grenade launcher, just because he might want to do just that, and by taking away his right to buy one, we're compromising his backwoods fun.

I know that's vulgarly simplified, but I'm just in a sarcastic mood when it comes to that topic.

As for censorship... I'm of the opinion that nothing will ever really come of everything that's going on right now. It's a phase. Like all phases, it was brought on by stupidity, is being embraced by stupider stupidity, and will eventually end, with all the stupid people patting themselves on the back for figuring out that it was ultimately all stupid.
Entity
Saturday, October 7, 2000 11:50:28 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Thank god!! My hair is finally starting to grow out again!! I'm begining to turn myself on again!! ;o) The minute I walk out of the court room next week, I'm dyein my shyt super freakin blue or sumthin like that....

Guess what?! I turned down a drink tonight! Me!! Can you dig it? I don't have anything against it, I just wanna see if I can quit or not.

GB- I'd be lying if I said I haven't had the same thought myself. But, shyt happens, then you learn from it.....

And..., I've learned ALOT. But I wouldn't take anything back, it all just handed me too many great opportunities! ::snickers::

Damn Sorow, that's crazy. I think it's tyme to go off on sum motherly ass!!!!
jackal
Saturday, October 7, 2000 02:58:28 AM
IP: ac863b47.ipt.aol.com

Entity:<<I still think you guys are just way overreacting.>>

Overreacting? *chuckles* You wanna know overreacting?

Overreacting is taking away law abiding people's right to own guns and imposing censorship on TV, music, movies, and other forms of media just because a couple of sh*t-heads decided it was a good idea to shoot up their school.

Overreacting is ordering the production of oil from domestic reserves which are only to be used in time of a national emergency, like a serious war or disater, just because you want to score a couple of extra points in the polls.

Overreacting is starting a four day long riot in southern California causing millions of dollars in damage and the lives of 55 people just becuase you didn't like the results of a trial.

Overreacting is assigning a sercurity detail to a Nsync concert. Would anyone really care if something actually happened to them?

Overreacting is boycotting and censoring an offensive TV show when they could of just shut the damn telvisions off!

Trust me, I'm a registered Democrat. I know what I'm talking about ; )
Tim P.
Saturday, October 7, 2000 01:46:31 AM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Doug> Best of luck with your job troubles.

Sev. Jr.> <<Mariah is being offered the lead role in the live-action Wonder Woman movie>>: But will they have her spin around for the costume change?
<<Zechs.....he's the worst. Noine is totally into him>>: Noin rocks my world. They gave the the best gundam (in my opinion) in Endless Duel. That game is the whole reason why I programmed the dragon punch movement into my controller.

Fire Storm> You know, it really surprised me to be in your mailing. And since you seem to be wondering: Christopher Frederick Garside. You could have found out by fingering my email address, and if you really want to stalk me, you can find even more confidential data by searching my name on the Rutgers website.
<<24lb parchement>>: You know that many of the old manuscripts were written on lambskin. Supposedly they want people constanly handling the archived books to keep the pages oiled.
<<Ya know, if ya keep up this complaining, I just may get to it>>: It doesn't look that bad. All you have to do is add a bunch of cases to a switch. The only ugly part might being remembering the exace filename, height, and width; but you can write that down beforehand to reference. And I don't see where you add the names to be put in the drop down menu.

Green Baron> <<That was a typo on my part>>: Natch. I just thought that you had run out of synonyms for meeting.
<<Soylent Green didn't cut the population>>: But who says we couldn't take a proactive stance this time?

Warpmind> <<that one song is the only Lehrer song I've got... or even heard>>: Same here, until you prodded me to go searching.
<<Where the binary is concerned... DOH! Of COURSE I noticed that one... cool effect>>: Of course. Especially considering my majors. And that it is one of the easiest bases with which to transmit information.
<<I'm SO not going to touch those...>>: The first three aren't that bad, and most other people agree with you on the last one. Except for the odd band member who shouts it out across the room.


Daphne> <<standardized tests seem to like me>>: Good. Learning the trick behind such tests is a rather useful skill to pick up.

Entity> <<Anyone remember the boss of the robotics firm in "Short Circuit"? Is that the same actor who played the dad on Alf, by chance?>>: Nope, one is apparently Austin Pendelton, the other is Max Wright.

SOROW> I hope your mother discovers her forgiveness soon.

Winterwolf> <<So the winner gets Brave brave Sir Robin you say>>: I have no probelem with Robin. As long as I don't actually have to soil my armor.

I found something amusing at http://whatsalife.keenspace.com/d/20000927.html , and something appropriate at http://hallokeen2000.keenspot.com/pinup-greystoneinn-arguswings.html .
Now, if you'll excuse me, it is time for me to find some super happy hour amazing fun time pictures.happy hour amazing fun time pictures.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Saturday, October 7, 2000 01:10:09 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

**A furry form streaks into the CR with partially broken chains attached to each appendage**
**With some small bit of mirth each of the chains are frozen and shattered on the CR floor in turn**
**The gale force of an arctic wind clears the floor completely of debris**
**Each fragment is sent flying through the open CR door and the figure goes to a side room to clean up**
**Winterwolf stomps into the middle of the room then he smiles**

I'm back! ^_^
Work has gotten tougher this week. Another coworker left the company and it has made my workload go through the roof. Once upon a time I heard of a thing called the 9 to 5 job. Now that is surely some fantasyland of milk and honey! :P
Anyway I'm not letting it get me down! It just means a little extra work and I need to budget my time better! :)

**Announcements**
1. Dreamie's birthday is Tuesday, October 10. I'm throwing a little online party for her and you are all welcome to join. The party starts at 8:15 PM EST and will last for at least one hour probably two. It will be held at http://www.citytalk.com on channel Dreamie.
2. Just a reminder that I'll be away from Thursday, October 12 to Sunday, October 15. I'll be attending a wedding in Champagne Urbana.
**End Announcements**

Airwalker> Welcome back! Now there will be thorough TGS story commenting again! :)

Wilek> Welcome back! In the immortal words of the Protoss "We feel your presence!" "Warp field stabilized" and "Power overwhelming!" ^_^ <Personality test> Dreamer you say... **gets that dreamie far off look in his eyes again** Yeah Dreamie! ;)

Warpmind> <when I'm going to LA come June, I might land in NY first> I'm sure I'll have just enough time to show you around the airport! :D If you really did have the opportunity I'd be honored to show you around and make sure you have a great and memorable time! ^_^

Spacebabie> <knee> Well this probably comes too late but Owie! **Hugs** Hope the knee is back all better and there are no more hurts! ;)

Green Baron> Dreamie hopes to see you Tuesday. Or if you can't make it let Attila know that he is welcome! ^_^

Coyote> <dog> That's devastating! My condolences. **shares your sadness**

Robby> <inventor of the riddle> **bows to you** Good deal!

Emambu> <gate question> That's an interesting question. I think you can go either way and set it up however you want but if you want an answer I'll say it will only translate into a language the listeners can comprehend. **grins** That isn't a clear yes or no but I like it like that! :D <HS dances> I actually didn't go to the high school dances and I feel like I missed something... **shrugs** <have fun at the wedding> Thanks! Notes what that comment was next to... Nah! Must be a coincidence! :P

Gside> <competition for characters> Loser gets... Not Lancelot! So the winner gets Brave brave Sir Robin you say! ;)

Caliope> <never been to NY> With that kind of setup I could take you around touring for days of fun fun fun!!! ^_^ <Roswell> Michael and Isabel! O.O What!? So far I'm not exactly happy with the current character interaction. That would be upsetting! I'd still watch expecting it was all a mistake somehow... I completely agree with you about Tess! Let's go tell Tess to beat it! :P

Daniel Johnson> **hangs his head** I'll keep both of you in my prayers!

Doug> I admire and respect your courage and dedication to working security and eventually becoming a police officer. It is something I know I wouldn't want to do but I do like helping people whenever I can. I just make sure to pay attention to the people around me. On the train today I helped one gentleman who had a hearing impairment and was quite possibly deaf. He had gotten on the wrong train and was trying to find out if he was going the right way. Well I had to take out a pen and paper to explain all the directions but I managed to get him to his train after a mini detour. Unfortunately he couldn't read my lips and my signing is so rusty I didn't know how to sign what I needed to explain. Fortunately it worked out. :) **Winterwolf gets you and Kit both in a friendly group hug** I care about both of you! I don't want Kit to feel left out! ;) Good luck! You are stronger willed than I am so I know you'll succeed in your goals! ^_^

Brooklyn> Welcome back! I'm a little behind in my posting. :P

Jackal> <kids and stuff> **reads through it all and just thinks about it** hiccups again... :)

Nadia> Happy Thanksgiving! It's great to see you in better spirits! ^_^

SOROW> OMG! **Takes you in a loving and comforting hug and just holds you** I'm here. Just let it out and draw love and strength from me as well as all your other friends here. **stays with you**

******BFTS RP******

Frost is confused by DPH's statement. "What do you mean my mind is shielded? I couldn't see or hear anything! That wasn't normal?" The look in his eyes speaks deeply about his sincerity.

Frost didn't know that the VR wouldn't work for him.

**Meanwhile**

Winterwolf greets Equus.

"The means to end my curse is at hand. A visitor has arrived that can transfer the curse from me. Before he can proceed I need to restore the life I have borrowed from you and take back the power I have given you." Equus smirked. Expelling part of his tainted essence and taking most of Winterwolf's essence had weakened the power of the curse. Once he had figured out how to alter it, the curse was much like a gargoyle dealing with the daily stone sleep cycle.

Winterwolf thought back to how he had been responsible for the curse. Equus trying to tap into the increased longevity and healing stone sleep provided without entering such a vulnerable state. He had interrupted the spell and the magical statue that would bestow longevity and healing to the one who possessed became instead a prison.

"Come we have much to prepare!"

******END RP******

Good night! See you next time!

**Winterwolf leaves for the night**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Saturday, October 7, 2000 12:54:18 AM
IP: 206.15.120.152

TGS Staff>> Could someone confirm that the two illustrations that I've sent in for next week's ep arrived safe and sound? If not, could someone email me with a viable addy to send them too? I hate to leave it to the last minute.

Thanks!!!
Spike - [cshayden@juno.com]
Saturday, October 7, 2000 12:29:40 AM
IP: adsl-64-216-236-32.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Hello all!! Today has been a great day. I started work at my cousin's law firm and I will be getting $75.00 a week illegally, so no taxes :) I will also do othe rtasks for her including organizing books for a cousin and whatever else Cousin Camille, her family, or her friends need of me. As long as I can get to class in time and take the bus to where I'm needed, I'm happy.

Doug> Hopefully, you got that e-mail.

Daphne> I hope you nejoy your dance, but get lot sof sleep. Don't forget there is a test called the ACT, too :)

Entity> Well, I'll be sure to watch for that episode. I have a seen a few including when Londo becomes Emperor, though that is near the end of the series.

Now, in reverse order:

<<Oh, for..>> Looking back, I take back that comment, I was rather harsh trying to create a worse case scenario, though when my cousin was sent to Bosnia, I was very glad I supported Perot in 1992. Still, I shouldn't amke you feel guilty about your decision. Maybe zap you with an apathy ray :), but I shouldn't use the tactic I did. I apologize.

<,On that RU-486, I was initially fine with it. But after reading what's been said on it, you guys have swayed me. I do think it makes things too easy. Now, a pill that PREVENTS pregnancy, that's a different matter -- one I'd be fully behind. I mean, wouldn't that be THE solution to this WHOLE MESS? Such a pill means abortion becomes an extraneous measure. Which means it is no longer practiced. Ta-da.>>
That would be nice. Better yet, a device that can tell when a woman can or cannot be impregnated so contraception would be obsolete. I wonder what effect the abortion deabte will have over RU486. As for no more abortions, if a better contraception comes out, it would be doubtful. Less may occur, though largely personal responsibility will be key. I persoanlly beleive that sexual intercourse shoudl eb avoided, even among a married couple, if they are not ready to have a child, because contraception is not 100%. I doubt my wife will care for that belief, either. I hope I can live up to it, when I am married. It's easy for me to say that now.

The line can be blurred at many points. I was raised to put the line at conception. This is alrgely teh work of my mother and my schooling. This has nothing to do with myview on the legality of abortion, though. I know altering the law will only cause more trouble and drive it underground. To me, birth only makes the child more external and most people view it as wrong to take the life of a post-natal human, though a baby is not truly viable until they are about 5 or so.

I think most people who are pro-choice draw that line at the end of the first trimester, taking a page form the Blackmun compromise in Roe v Wade. In fact, many who are pro-choice see all abortions as wrong and immoral, but they don't want to impose their morals on the law, and I cna agree with that. I believe that to justify altering our laws, something beyond morlaity must be on the table. This also goes with social programs and gun laws. Is Ted Kennedy any less a self-righteous moralist than Pat Robertson? Is Jesse Jackson any less a spotlight hungry fear-monger than Pat Buchanan?

Thank God, none of those four have a chance of being President :)

Well, Ted Kennedy would make an executive order legalizing sexual harrasment, cocaine, manslaughter, wife beating, and drunk driving :)

Political nicknames:

Bush/Cheney: Dick and Bush
Gore/Lieberman: Joey and the Goy :)

SOROW> I have my share of mother problems and know she wants me to attend my graduation. I sense a rift will form and be there for a long time between you two. Her loss ::hugs, without letting go::

Xena Trek> ::sneak attack kisses::
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Saturday, October 7, 2000 12:14:30 AM
IP: adsl-78-220-248.msy.bellsouth.net

*sigh* I don't even want to think of what happened, but if I know one thing about this room is that I can release my stress here. This is what happened yesterday at my Senior Football Game... my mother was still angry with me over whatever it was (I still don't know what it is) and I was dreading the moment when she and my dad would escort me down the field when my name was called. That moment came and my mom told me to stand on the other side of my dad instead of inbetween them. I thought that was what everyone else was doing, so I did. But then I realized she said that because she didn't want me to stand next to her! After I was escorted off the field, my dad went to distribute flowers (he's the head sponsor of that) and my mom was suppose to help. I didn't know where to go so I followed my dad...and my mom yelled at me to stay where I was. She walked off without giving me my flowers. All the parents saw my own mother pass me without giving so much as a smile, or a hug, or even the flowers. I then began to sob...in...front...of...the...whole...school. Everyone thought that I was just sad that it was Senior Game and that our class would be out of high school soon. But that was definately not why I was crying. My dad knew why and all he could do was say that he was proud of me and gave a reassuring hug. I haven't confronted my mom since last night (I stay away from the house as much as I can) and she hasn't come to me. How can I possibly talk to her?! She ruined my senior night that I had been looking forward to for four years and I will always remember it as a tragedy. I am so embarrassed and upset. Anyway, I just thought you should all know what happened. Thank you to all who wished me luck, but I don't think it worked. I feel that this will be a permanent scar on my memory. *sob*

GB> That is one of the sweetest things anyone has ever said to me! *hugs* Thank you so much!

Arianna> Welcome back sweetheart! We've missed you so much and I even remembered your birthday. *hugs*
SOROW
Friday, October 6, 2000 11:51:12 PM
IP: a010-0599.dll2.splitrock.net

Gee, all my posts lately are clarifying Gundam Wing stuff...

Entity- Actually, Katherine *IS* Trowa's sister. Long and convuluted back story behind it that the series doesn't get into, and Eldless Waltz only very briefly touches on. Its the novelization/manga version of Endless Waltz that explains all the backstories in full. Once Endless Waltz has aired I'll post explanations for all the stuff Waltz dredges up but doesn't quite explain, not to mention full character back stories if that's what people want...
Robby
Friday, October 6, 2000 11:15:22 PM
IP: spider-wq054.proxy.aol.com

Green Baron> <<<Even worse, after the first trimester, a baby can feel pain. Personally, that disturbs me.>>>

Yes, but is the baby conscious to register that pain? Or is it the kind of "pain" an ant feels, because like all creatures it has nerves, when you step on it? (Not that I advocate stepping on ants.)

The line can be blurred at so many points, and that's why I like birth as the divider. When a baby takes its first breath of air, then it's a human being. Because then it's subject to all the elements that other human beings are. That's my rationale. But even for me, it's a tentative one.

On that RU-486, I was initially fine with it. But after reading what's been said on it, you guys have swayed me. I do think it makes things too easy. Now, a pill that PREVENTS pregnancy, that's a different matter -- one I'd be fully behind. I mean, wouldn't that be THE solution to this WHOLE MESS? Such a pill means abortion becomes an extraneous measure. Which means it is no longer practiced. Ta-da.

<<<If Gore is elected and Jaden or I get killed in some peace-keeping mission, I hope you can live with your vote.>>>

Oh for...

SJ> <<<Am I the only one to notice that Lieberman looks EXACTLY like the dad on that old tv show "ALF"?>>>

I dunno about the dad on Alf, but I DO know that the guy HAS in fact been reminding me of someone ever since I first laid eyes on him, and I just put my finger on it earlier today. Anyone remember the boss of the robotics firm in "Short Circuit"? Is that the same actor who played the dad on Alf, by chance? Because he looks and sounds EXACTLY like Liberman.

<<<So we shouldn't really be sitting here and debating the policy of our candidates trying to validate our support of them. It doesn't really matter. We're for who we're for.>>>

Yeah, point taken. I won't continue the back-and-forth if no one else does. Not to exclude any of the spin-off discussions if they happen to keep going, though.

I gotta say, though, I just can't see how the appearance of competence and the appearence of arrogance could be so disputed in regards to Gore. Perhaps it's best, indeed, for these reasons, to quit now. :)

<<<JMS is an atheist, but I've found that he has a better understanding of what religion *should* be about than many of the so-called Religious Right>>>

In my experience that's a trend.

Babylon 5> Speaking of that "Great Burn" episode, it was by far my favorite of the series right behind the series finale, "Sleeping in Light." That one was just beautiful. Brought many a tear to me eye. :)

On Gundam Wing> <<<Trowa ignores his sister>>>

Actually, she just pretends to be his sister. She takes advantage of his amnesia. Awfully possessive girl. Anyways, I really like Trowa as a character. He became my favorite Gundam pilot during the whole Cattra-goes-postal period of the show. As a matter of fact, Cattra really went up on my interest meter in that period too.

Love Duo, too, of course. Wufei was... an 'acquired' taste, so to speak, but by the end of the series I liked him as well. As for Heero... Heero's Heero.

Return of the Joker> I've been following this on Dark Horizons. Most distressing. I'd been hearing about this movie for the past several months. *sigh* The LOGICAL thing to do, of course, would be to do a dual-release... hopefully they'll see that.

Tim> <<<Perhaps not totalitarianism, But quite possibly a sort of socialism.>>>

I still think you guys are just way overreacting.
Entity
Friday, October 6, 2000 10:45:38 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

btw... I hate it when I forget to put a color in!
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith - [l.grow_yophilly@excite.com]
Friday, October 6, 2000 09:16:37 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.192.243.philadelphia1.level3.net

got cut off halfway... again!

****BFTS RP****
[THE REALM]

'A healing spell? Not exactly. I want you to try something, though,' Mr Connect says in Jason Filler's mind.

'Go ahead. She's unconscious.' Jason is very worried about Daphne, and wonders who the assailant might be.

'First, draw out the bullet.'

Jason does, then discards the piece of metal.

'concentrate on her blood. pull it toward the wound. let it do its job.'

Jason does so, watching the wound begin to scab over.

'Good,' Mr Connect continues, 'now, draw the blood vessels closed.'

'It looks infected.'

'Yes. Draw the pus and bacteria out.'

Jason does so, then freezes the orb of disease to deal with it later.

'Now, draw the skin shut and pull the cells together.'

With some encouragement from Jason, the broken skin heals into a scar. Daphne comes to.

"What happened?"

Jason smiles. "I just saved your life."

****END BFTS RP****

Happiness to all!
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith - [l.grow_yophilly@excite.com]
Friday, October 6, 2000 09:15:54 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.192.243.philadelphia1.level3.net

Abortion: never been in a situation where my views would be relevent, so I'm not sure I have a right to voice them.

I read all the news. Nothing I can say, whether grats or sorrys, that won't sound like total BS. More hugs all around: we could all use 'em, I think.

School wishes: thanx for everyone's best wishes.

SAT/dance: i have a plan -- I'm gonna go (I have to... student council), then go right home and go to sleep. i'm not too concerned, though; standardized tests seem to like me.

Hey, anyone catch The West Wing? I thought it rocked, personally.

****BFTS RP****
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Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith - [l.grow_yophilly@excite.com]
Friday, October 6, 2000 09:07:52 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.192.243.philadelphia1.level3.net

**RP RELATED**
Brooklyn, please respond to egroup messages and send an email to Winterwolf, me, or to the entire group with something about what to do with your character within 2 weeks.
**END RP RELATED**

I have to work this weekend because my area does: both days and the supervisor promises to get my area off all next weekend. Today, my area was short by 3 people who are normally there. of course, my area was short on people with those 3 people normally there.

Taxes: How could I claim too many? I only claimed MYSELF.

Deficit - ok, I got the two confused. But trificeit sounds so much better than tridebt.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, October 6, 2000 08:10:28 PM
IP: max1-2.cwy.cei.net

****Kyryn sticks her head in.****

Nadia> Thanksgiving this weekend?> Ah! Then am I correct in assuming that you are Canadian? Happy Thanksgiving! We don't get to celebrate ours until the end of November.

****Kyryn disappears.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:49:57 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

hey guys, quick post!

I am going home for thanksgiving this weekend so I'll be back on Tues or thereabouts.
Thanks for all your support and comments and everything. You guys are great and I love you!!!!!!
Millions of hugs to everyone (especially those who need them... but everyone needs hugs, now and then :))

see you later!
N.
Nadia
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:43:00 PM
IP: dynrez216-3267.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*Warpmind enters, singing two cheerful tunes at the same time.*
Singing in stereo ain't easy - only reason I can do it, is that I used to be a tenor. Then I swapped it into two fivers... ];) (Sorry, guys, that pun was just dying to be released.)

Good news: I notice that Slobo's toast. Good. Actually, I'd say it's GREAT! Now, he's free prey... where'd I put that phase disorganizer rifle again... ;)

Mary Flanders: You have a store called "Alternative Universe" within reach? Cool. Almost as cool as the RPG material/import literature store chain in Norway... Avalon. Entering one of their stores and asking to see King Arthur cracks me up every time... ];)

Doug: Seems you have quite a colorful crew around you... say, jog my memory a bit, will you? What are the requirements to get into your line of work, anyway? And more importantly: how much sadism and cruelty is tolerable on duty? ;) (Hey, if I ever do move permanently to the US, well, security guard does sound like a decent job.)

SJ: Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman? Aw, jeez... who was their second choice? Janet Reno? For cryin' out loud, Mariah Carey seems REALLY improbable for the part... can't think of any better picks right now, but REALLY... (maybe that woman who REALLY thought she had the Lara Croft role... Rhona something...)

Fire Storm: Ah, yes, one cannot exactly xerox the Grimorum... just my luck. :(Oh, and unless I get my chemistry wrong, the pH scale has the acids from 1-7, 7 as neutral, and then alcaloids from 7 and onward... but I do see your point... ;)

Gside: Actually, that one song is the only Lehrer song I've got... or even heard. :( But, I might be gettin' a larger collection pretty soon. :) Where the binary is concerned... DOH! Of COURSE I noticed that one... cool effect. :) *Looks at nicknames. Jaw trembles.* Oh, I'm SO not going to touch those... ;)

That's about it... gotta go. I have some various hiney to kick now - my Barbarian mst go to Tristram and find Deckard Cain (Nightmare difficulty - Diablo on Normal was really piece of cake, the times he didn't have me accidentally cornered before zapping me.)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:04:28 PM
IP: mp-217-205-236.daxnet.no

Firestorm> Very interesting
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, October 6, 2000 12:33:46 PM
IP: dt017n73.san.rr.com

****Kyryn steps in.****

Doug> My condolences on the passing of your mentor. Sorry if I didn't mention it before but I've been skimming the room the past couple of days. I understand your frustration with work. Okami is leaving his job because of problems similar to yours (i.e., workers who are lazy, don't care, steal stuff, etc.). In his case though, the company that he's working for is rapidly going down the tubes. They turned him down for management several times because they think that his position is too critical to be left unfilled (he's an inventory specialist), yet they won't give him a raise. And they keep using him to fill in for everyone else, then yell at him about how they need his job to get done. And, to top it off, his store manager does nothing but sit in the office. *sigh* His last day is next Friday and then he's going to take a couple of days off and then find another job. *grin* I already know that he won't have any problem finding another job. I understand your reasons for staying in your chosen career and wish you every bit of luck in pursuing it. {{{{{hugs}}}}}

SJ> Smackdown> Yep! Okami and I sat down and had a good evening watching Smackdown. Okami was real glad to see Stone Cold back. BTW, I think you're right and Triple H and Stephanie are heading for a breakup. Thanks for pointing out the Lieberman/ALF dad lookalike. I knew that he reminded me of someone, but I couldn't quite place the face.

Tim Phipps> Exploitation of government relief programs> I agree with you. I can remember women coming into the library I used to work at and arguing that they couldn't pay a $10.00 late fee because "it was taking milk from their babies' mouthes." These women were wearing better clothing and driving better cars than anything that I could afford! There are some people who learn to "work the system" very well.

Robby> Condolences on the hedgehog. Although I understand from a friend who had one that they get mean and crotchety when they get older.

Daniel Johnson> My best wishes for you and your mother. You might want to see about some kind of in-home care if that is at all possible. Sometimes that can work out being better for the patient and costing less than a nursing home.


I'm going to be offline for the weekend. I've got to drive from Denton up to Gentry, Arkansas for a friend's wedding. She's having a wiccan ceremony outside (50 degrees heading down to the 30's -- oh joy!)

Later All!

****Kyryn steps out.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, October 6, 2000 11:48:28 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Firestorm: <sighs> That's all very true. As for the new Batman, I personally hope it's somewhere between the two versions you laid out. Not too much of a blase feel-good fest, but not too much of a gack violent god-awful one either. :)

Green Baron: $ Thanks for the bit of RP, enjoyed it. Hope that if you bring back the Boris in there, no one mixes him up with ours in the Ravens. :) Thanks for the correction on Weakland too. $ And thanks for pointing out the Daniel mistake, which I'm sorry about, and your somewhat encouraging words about the world population levels. Hope they all improve soon. Looking forward to your e-mail when it comes, I have a feeling you're going to like the reply. :)
Doug
Friday, October 6, 2000 10:54:33 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.242.dlls.grid.net

RP WARNING!!
**St. Petersburg, Russia
Benny Hinn and his cronies have now captured the Catholic schoolgirl scouts. They are tied up to chairs and under watch by soem Russian Mafia underlings. Meanwhile, more thugs are looking for the Green Baron, who is trying to find his scouts.

In another corner is an unrelated faction, a few hardline Soviets have heard that Aleksander Romanov is nearby and are trying to find and kill him. GB waits until he sees their hammer and sickle emblem up close, and then fires his hidden gun.
"Nicholas has been shot! Boris, Alek, find who did this. We do not need soem sniper trying to stop the People's Liberation Army. I knew Puting from my days in the KGB and we shall control him as we return to the good old days and we shall have a new allay in the US under the form of a NY Senator if all goes well for her."

Green Baron sneaks up behind Alek and backstabs him with his sword cane, though Boris captures the Green Baron, and the leader sees this.

"Good work, Boris. Too bad, we have lost two fine comrades. I know you. Your cat is an annoying capitalist and has strong control of the Valesky and Wallachy factions of the Russian Mafia. Well, they cannot save you now. You shall be tried by the People's Tribunal and sentenced to our prison camp in Vermont."

From another point, a bunch of Hinn's men have seen the Communists and the Green Baron. "We shall stop thos egodless heathens and bring the Green Baron to Benny Hinn."**
TO BE CONTINUED!!!

Doug> $There's your follow-up. Weakland is ArchBishop of Milwaukee, though he belongs in Tehran :) I will e-mail you this afternoon$

Dame Corax> I'm glad you like my RP. I think its time to be thoroughly ruthless ine xpressing my views through RP. The AFL-CIO will be an upcoming target ;)

At Loyola, we have the Loyola Greens, who are basically socialist, along with a community action group that has a Marxist strain. I imagine these groups would withdraw their support for Nader, if he is caught eating any meat :)

Doug> Uh, its Daniel Johnson, not DPH who has the mother in critical condition, though DPH and Daniel Johnson are really clones, so its an easy mistake :)

SJ> Well, Straczynski(sp) is a Polish name, so its a good possibility he grew up in a Catholic family (though that doesn't expalin his knowledge of scripture :)), and one of the few epsides I saw was the Great Burn, which of course reminded me of the post-apocalyptic sci-fi book I read, and almost everyone I know who read it has been Catholic, though Steve Jackson read it,a nd I don't know what religion he was raised. It is a good book and I recommend it, though it can be very dark and cynical about our future.

As for GMU, I picked it because Walter Williams is on the Economics faculty. My favorite Econ Professor got her PhD there and I'd like to get stationed at an ARMY base near there, so I can go to GMU for grad school. What is the mass transit in that area like?

Jackal> Your view is not surprising. It seems you view abortion as a form of euthanaisa, too. I personally think you shoudl get a vasectomy if you don't want to have nay more kids. I don't mind that as a putdown or anything unkind, but I think it may solve your problem.

Tim Phipps> All those social programs tend to bakfire, and I'm glad you're showing me proof. As for the wealthiest 1%, if they pay so many taxes that a tax cut benefits them by that much, they deserve a hand just for shoudlering so much of our tax burden. The wealtheist should benefit from tax cuts the most. They pay the most in taxes.

Gside> That was a typo on my part. It will be The Capitalist Jedi Council and their soldiers are Capitalist Jedi Knights.

Well, Soylent Green didn't cut the population, since they only recycled carrion and no one was killed by them directly. I just bought that movie and I'm working on a Charleton Heston film collection.

Lady Arianna> Hopefully you can see Al Bore and George W up close. Ask Al Gore about how many times he was fired at in Nam. He was a military Journalist and a Senator's son, so I doubt he was in any real danger. In fact, W was in more danger flying a plane in the Air National Guard than Gore was in his cushy assignmnet in Vietnam.

Kitainia> Actually, the population growth worldwide is slowing. I believe in Bangladesh, the avergae number of kids perfamily is now three and much of Europe is undergoing a decline in population. The real problem is where the population is growing in many places, like the US. Sadly, its not the rich or middle-class who are having more kids. Alone, it wouldn't be a problem if more chidlren are bron into poverty, but our "generous" social programs serve to hinder our nation's mobility of wealth and that will keep teh poor dependent on the largesse of the Government killing their dignity and humanity,a s well as amnbition. Thankfully, we have immigrants who come to this nation and take advantage of the mobility of wealth, which is still healthy, since 14% of the poorest 20% of Americans will be among the wealthiest 20% in five years. The sad cases are those stuck in that poorest 20% range their whole life. I blame Lyndon Johnson and his "Great Society".
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Friday, October 6, 2000 09:03:14 AM
IP: fcs00msy.msy.bellsouth.net

HEY everybody!

Well, I've been awfully busy at school…but I finally found some time. Yeah, 1:30 in the morning. But it's time and it's all mine!!!!!! :)

Well, just an exciting piece of news. You all have probably heard of the debate that will be held at my college (Wake Forest) this coming week. Well, they chose 75 random students to have a chance to get any available seats the night of the debate. And…well…I'm #23 on that list!!! I can't believe it. I'm so happy. (Did I mention that 23 is my lucky number? This is really too contrived. It's scary!) Even though I'm not as big on politics as I once was…wow. I just can't believe it. Of course, it doesn't mean I'll actually get in, and I won't know anything until I show up and wait for an hour and a half the night of the debate…but hey, the chance is soooo worth the uncertainty. :) Anyway, that's my little bit of news.

Sorow> <hugz> Sorry, that comes a little late. I'm sorry about you and your mom -- I speak from experience when I say things get better. <more hugz>

Nadia> Congrats!

Wilek> YOU"RE BACK!!!! <hugz> Good to see you, dear friend! Yeah, you're right, I don't live two hours from Borders. And I finally got my fix of good reading. Consider this a very brief plug for Ender's Shadow, by Orson Scott Card. This guy is incredible.

Kitainia> Thanks! I feel so loved here…it occurs to me now that I don't remember why I let RL get in my way.

Green Baron> I missed you too! :)

Coyote> <hugs> I'm so sorry about your dog… he was lucky to have an owner who cared about him so much...

Daniel> I'm sorry about your mother…we went through the same thing with my grandfather a few years back, and it was pretty tough. <hugz> We're here for you.

Well, I know I missed somebody…but I have some stupid French story to read (actually, I'm being facetious - it's really good. I just don't have time to read it. Esp. not in French.) So, everybody take care, and … <hugz > to everybody!
*Arianna melts into the shadows. A voice echoes in the distance… "Now doesn't that bring back memories…."*

Lady Arianna of Annwn - [lady_arianna@hotmail.com]
Winston Salem, NC, USA
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:53:51 AM
IP: hurlmk0.computer.wfu.edu

I am currently downloading to 63meg mp3s. Anyone want to listen to lectures by Richard Feynman?

Kitainia> <<we do have to solve the world population crisis somehow, don't we?>>: There's always Soylent Green. Yummy.

Warpmind> <<Does that mean they've got mummies of the great composers, or something?>>: "We've stopped the master from decomposing."
Oh, and I got a bunch of other stuff by Lehrer. Smut seems pretty good, could be dedicated to Mrs. Morgan. And you can't forget the Masochism Tango or Oedipus Rex.

SOROW> May you have a reconciliation soon.

CtB> Condolences on the dog.

Robby> Condolences on the hedgehog. Treat yourself to a porcupine. Porcupines have been a family thing for me since my father worked with them in college. He had an interesting time trying to get an albino male to mate.

Emambu> <<I don't know what Ponch's character is like>>: It's not really that, it's that the actor has become somewhat of a joke. I think he's doing spanish soap operas now.
By the way, I think you should try to get one of your groups to do Non Nobis, Domine. It is quite good.
<<I've only been at U Pitt. for about six weeks and I've already developed a dirty mind>>: We have another one.

Does anyone know who did "Hooked on a Feeling"? I have four different groups credited to it, but it sounds like I only have two different versions.

Allright, got to my last post. Seems like I didn't need the first and last lines of the rune.

Fire Storm> <<Hot DAMN! If they could only do that to my sheep!...>>: "Hot is right. Everything they added makes her too hot for me. But they did add a nice lubrication system."
Windowed cow: Actually they cut open a cow, put plastic where they cut, and now you can check out the contents of the cow's stomach.

Warpmind> <<dr. Anton Sevarius having this one on constant loop while he's working>>: I think he might also put in I am the Walrus. And maybe Forever Young if one of my previous theories holds.
<<A Tolkien-ish "G"-rune? Uh, really, what...>>: It's essentially my familly rune. My father got into Tolkien in college, and adopted it as his own. He gilded it on his chemistry and physics handbook (or whatever they call the book with just about every scientific constant known to man), and generally used it to identify his stuff. I have since picked it up, especially since it figures largely in many of my nicknames (G-side, G-boy, G-boy Jr., G-spot). You can blame the last one on an alto in the RU marching band.
<<Oh, and the song... drat>>: Well, I don't want to rile Robby, though the anticipation in the non-rhymes is quite amusing.
<<there was a binary at the end of "Mission to Mars"?>>: Not a binary, binary. As in base two. If I remember correctly, when they triggered the alien ship, circles appeared on the floor leading to the tube. Then some of the circles rotated to lines and back in clicks. The pattern they formed was a binary countdown (countup? It all depends an which way you look at the row, and what you take to be one).

Calíope> <<this other song (wich I dont remember the name of) that reminded me alot of Queen's Bohemian Rapsody>>: If you remember the name, tell me.

Daniel Johnson> Best wishes for dealing with your mother.

Green Baron> <<This Council of the Capitalist Jedi Council has begun>>: The Department of Redundancy Department?

Dame Corax> <<maybe I'll modify the name>>: Perhaps a different title would be sufficient.

I'm up to about three hours ago, but I have a 9:50 class tomorrow, so I'll take a break here.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:46:26 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Warpmind: <Hmmm... (hey, can you send me a copy of that Grimorum, eh?)>
Sorry. I am fresh out of blood of a vampire and egg-tooth of a griffon. Got plenty of ash of a dead gargoyle, glow of the will-of-the-wisp, and 24lb parchement, though.
Thats the real pain of copying or invoking the ability of one spell book into another. It takes so much work!
I swear... it is SO much easier just to create a new one from scratch. But you really can't transfer spells too easily. Well, at least *I* can't. My handwriting is no where near good enough to do it.
<Ten dozen adult xenomorphs? Bah. No problem for me>
Humans get acid-reflux and such. We get basic-reflux.
Of course, anything with a PH less than 10 is basic to us. Which is why we are always pissed. Whenever we eat, we get stomach aches.
Well... not ME, anyway. Just my children.

Taleweaver: <Quick question, when is the new and improved comment room supposed to be up. I'm just itching to use Harthoth as my image.>
Ya know, if ya keep up this complaining, I just may get to it. :)

James Birdsong: <"After Clinton was the boring one" ~Batman Beyond> (Max)
"They are all boring" (Or something like that) - Terry, BB

DPH: <I made $234.58 one week and I paid $19.44 in Federal income tax. Maybe I did the math wrong.>
If this only happened once in the whole time you have been working there, it is a glitch.
If you just started or this is constant, talk to your manager or whatever. You probally have too many dependants claimed. I did. I misread the damn form.

Doug: <RANT>
Just remember that finding night-loving people is hard enough, and finding night-loving people who have a decent work ethic is nearly impossible.
Me, personally, would LOVE a night job that paid decently AND I could do what I want. Fixing computers that break.

SJ: Would you watch the debate if Gore and Bush were in the Smackdown rinG? What if they were doing a tag-team (or whatever the equivelent is now) with their VP's to be?
<From the "They Must Be Smoking Crack Again" department>
Linda Carter she ain't.
<Batman Beyond>
***OH PLEASE DON'T LET THESE BE SPOILERS!***


In the new edit: No one dies, Joker comes back as an old man rehabilitated ("I've seen the error of my ways"), Bruce isn't really bitter. His plastic surgon messed up. Barbera left because she wanted children, and Terry is just a boy with a cape.
OR, in the R-rated version...
Gotham gets destroyed. Flames, riots...
The Joker did it. He was blowing up buildings. The Jokerz bow down to him, for he is their god.
Bruce is bitter because he believed the Joker was dead, but not by his hands, robbing him of the joy of vengance he has so longed for. When he finds out that Joker is still alive...
Barbera and Bruce are on bad terms because he wouldn't marry her and he wanted her to have an abortion after he knocked her up. In a fight soon after she found out, she was badly injured and miscarryed. She blames Bruce for that.
Catwoman was the one that injured Barbera. She could tell that she was pregnant and she hated that it wasn't her. SHE wanted Batman. Only SHE deserved him! And this... this... TRAMP just waltzed in on her man and stole him from her.
Max becomes the new Robin.
Dana finds out that Terry is Batman, and enjoys it.
Terry becomes Batman. Totally. He enjoys it. He even enjoys making criminals hurt. He wants them to BEG for mercy. He presses a bad guy too far. He dies in Batman's arms. It effects Terry, but not in a way he thought. He recieves some pleasure from it. So he does it again. And again. Saving the weak and removing the criminal element from the city at all costs.
Terry's brother, twip, rents (or buys, or has his mother make) a Batman costume for him for a costume party. The party is invaded by the Jokerz and the Joker. They all take out their frustration of Batman on him. Batman sees the trouble and dives into the fray. The bad-guys are gone, but his brother is there, dieing in his arms. His brother asks to see who Batman is (A dying wish). Terry shows him, and his brother dies.
Terry now has a new motive. Pure vengance.
How's that sound?

***END SPOILERS!***
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:36:10 AM
IP: 08-143.008.popsite.net

Not much to input tonight...

SJ>...regarding your comments on SmackDown and Duo...man.. I knew there was a reason I'm starting to like you! :) *sniffs and wonders what's cooking?* :) BTW, guess who's coming to town this weekend? Also I agree with you and hope that they don't mangle the new BB video. Phantasm was pretty damn good in my opinion.

Well, I guess that's all from me folks. Everyone take care and be safe. Hugs all around.
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Friday, October 6, 2000 01:23:16 AM
IP: ac983948.ipt.aol.com

SJ: <<Am I the only one to notice that Lieberman looks EXACTLY like the dad on that old tv show "ALF"? JUST LIKE HIM. It's like voodoo or something.>>

Oh Thank God! I thought I was the only one! I though I was going crazy...uh, crazier.

Entity: <<Nobody like Gore is going to come into office and turn us toward totalitarianism.>>

Perhaps not totalitarianism, But quite possibly a sort of socialism. I wouldn't go so far as to Gore and some other left-wingers actual communist, in recent years, many liberals have put foward and past numerous policies that are soppossed to aid the "downtrodden" in our country, but wind up taking power away from individuals.

I live in the midwest, where many faremers have latly had trouble making ends meet because of dropping grain prices and for a half dozen reasons that are so godforsakenly confusing that I can't even *begin* to explian. But to make a long story short, the Clinton-Gore Adminsitration and several Iowa and Nebraska state Senators created "farmer relief" programs. The programs do exsist, but there numerous condititions and requirments you have to meet to receive any relief. Farmers often recieve little, if any, of this relief. They then wind up paying even more for this any other "Social welfare" programs, and also are put under restrictions in the grain market (i.e. control of grain prices, who to sell the grain to, ect).

The Social Security, Medicare, and other programs that Gore mentioned in his reform plan has many simularities to the "relief" programs that we have here. Hence, why it is projected that 50 million Americans won't be amply covered. Trust me, you don't want to get screwed over like we did. All things considered, it's better to let the top 1% to get a little extra than to not get anything at all.

Social Security, Unemployment, and many of the state and federal programs I described above are often exploited. You would be surprised to see how many people who are capable of working can afford $5,000+ computer systems, satelite/cable services, home improvement projects and other little goodies for themselves by soaking up Unemployment. Although many of the more extreme examples of exploitaion are the exception and not the rule, the issue is still of very serious concern.

I'll post more later...
Tim Phipps
Friday, October 6, 2000 12:56:03 AM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Ramble- I think it's relaxing to put in sum Christopher Lawrence, ya know, sum gud trance..., and just be like..., f**k it. :o)

I see life as a great contradiction....., so here's how I see the abortion thing:

°°°°Sorry if I get lengthy°°°
As mean as it is, at sum point I wanted to abort the kids that I have now. Hell, sumtymes I wish I was aborted..., but I alwayz freaked out about it. In the past I was like, this ends and this ends NOW. And as far as I can remember, I *think* there's only been one abortion which I am responsible for, the other was a miscarriage and the other was my frist son, whom I also wanted to abort. And after he was born, my view on abortion changed. I was all about "terminating the invading organism".

My 2nd child, I just did not want, I didn't think I could handle another child. True, my view had changed on abortion, but I wanted everything to be sum what "settled" before another child was born. That obviously didn't happen. Then, just as everything was getting it's darkest, and I was ready to leave this horrible person I was with..... up pops child number 3. "Abortion" was no longer just a word to be spoken..., It radiated from every cell in my being.... ABORTION!!! I mean, you walked in the room and felt it!

Trent, this current child, was at the center of, single handily the biggest fight I've ever had. F**k goin on for hours..., f**k goin on for days..., f**k goin on for weeks..., 2 months! Unlike with my daughter, did I try to be civil about it and respect a woman's decision..., I recall spewing the words, "You are not gonna rape me of my soul. I don't need this..."
It would have pissed off anyone else...., but it fell on deaf ears.... So here we are. I've accepted he's in my life, and you ppl get baby news every week!

So, for a brief period I was pro-life. Now I'm pro-choice, but not the pro-choice I used to be. Ok, as bad as it makes me feel, I wanted my children dead at sum point, voiced or unvoiced. After the birth of my 1st son, it wasn't about..., OMG we didn't use protection, it was about..., OMG everything's f**ked up enuf already, this isn't gonna make it easier. "Terminating the unplanned, to better prepare for the planned". Was/is my view....

And ya know..., back up whatever birth control method you like, but if you ever noticed, alot of ppl don't get pregnant until after they get on birth control. I know! So for that reason I support abortion. BUT, a partial birth abortion is sadistic, and there is sumthing wrong with you. Get mad, start bitching, whatever, but it's sick, either way you cut..., DRILL it. Now if you find out pretty late that the birth is gonna harm you, that's fine, get your drill on! I'm sayin, if it's because you can't make a decision then you need sum help! It usually doesn't take a day after you know you're pregnant to know if you want a kid. (I dunno, I might be crazy).

I guess if I havta put it in a nutshell, it's... I'm ok with abortion but, don't do it because you don't feel like using protection. And do it quick if at all possible. And do..., please do consider having the baby, he or she can be mad fun!! I was gonna say sumthing else, but this is all I can remember.

GB- Coolness. Sumtymes I feel like I'm doin sumthing wrong just by sitting... :o)

Baby news- Trent currently has the hiccups. Just thought I'd tell ya....
jackal
Friday, October 6, 2000 12:50:43 AM
IP: aca09fdc.ipt.aol.com

Hey guys!
Quick reply
<Emambu>
Thanks for the welcome back! Sorry nobody else noticed.
To answer your questions
1)I just haven't felt up to posting.
2)Yes I'm still writing.
3)Thanks for your kind words. :)

That's all!

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 6, 2000 12:12:50 AM
IP: 216.117.75.19

**Warning: More Boring Political Commentary. Abandon all hope of stimulating, exciting conversation, ye who enter here.**

Well, in an effort to somewhat counter my lack of watching the debate on Tuesday, I tuned into a little bit of the vice presidential nominee debate tonight (although I didn't watch most of it. Hey, Smackdown was on UPN! You can't expect me to give that up, even for the election, when it appears as if Stephanie McMahon's marriage to Triple H is breaking up! It's all Kurt Angle's fault, It's True, It's True!!)
The result--more boring rhetoric. Although here are my impressions about the debate:
1. I had virtually no prior opinion on Dick Cheney before tonight. And now, I kind of like the guy. He knows his stuff. I still don't think he's the best choice Bush could have made, but he's not some inexperienced schmuck. But I'm okay with Dick. I just wish he wasn't so damn soft-spoken.
2. Joe Lieberman kinda scares me a little. I don't know why. I think it's the whole religious thing. I swear, if he wasn't Jewish, he'd fit right in there with Pat Robertson and the rest of the Moral Majority.
3. Am I the only one to notice that Lieberman looks EXACTLY like the dad on that old tv show "ALF"? JUST LIKE HIM. It's like voodoo or something.

Seriously, though.....there's been a lot of discussion over the past few days on the candidates. I think we should all be honest with each other--we like who we like. Let's drop this "Well, you're entitled to your opinion" stuff, cause I feel like that's a step away from tempers flaring. "I totally disagree with you with every fiber in my being, BUT....You're entitled to your opinion". Some of us feel strongly one way, others another.
We can't be objective here. None of us can be biased, because all of us have differing opinions and beliefs and we're gonna follow them, so each of us is gonna look at our guy with rose-colored glasses. Jannie and I are going to look favorably on Bush. Entity is gonna support Gore. And we each are gonna try and point out, in subtle ways, that we feel our guy is the best. Take Entity's feelings of Bush in the debate: He felt Bush was too laidback and perhaps an idiot. My opinion of Gore in the debate: He was largely condescending and really very pretentious (why is that a bad thing? Because like I said last night--there's only room for ONE pretentious person in the country, and that's me, baby! ;) Point is, neither of us are unbiased, and I don't think any of us can be. So we shouldn't really be sitting here and debating the policy of our candidates trying to validate our support of them. It doesn't really matter. We're for who we're for.

Frankly, I'll be so happy in a month when this is all over and done with, so that the worst of our worries is whether or not this week's episode of Buffy was good or bad.

And for the record, and you can count this as partisan if you want, I liked Bush's calculator joke, but his delivery was just horrible. He needs to work on his timing. Maybe if this presidency thing doesn't pan out for him he can try out at the Improv.
***END POLITICAL COMMENTARY***

Whew, glad that that's over with.

Pistoff Stuff: Yes, the link that I gave was faulty. If you want to check out his latest story, Rising Sun: Smoke and Mirrors pt. 2, you can read it at the Gargoyles Fan Fiction Archive. Just thought I'd set that straight.

From the "They Must Be Smoking Crack Again" department: Mariah Carey is a superhero. Really.
It's being rumored that Mariah is being offered the lead role in the live-action Wonder Woman movie. Yes, that's right. If this rumor is true, we could see Mariah wielding a golden lasso.
Read my headline to see what I think of this story. I can suffer through many things, but an Amazonian princess with a Long Island accent is where I draw the line.

Green Baron: You know, that's funny--I've never noticed a secret Jedi Council located anywhere at GMU. Then again, I spend most of my days there battling the Dark Side that is GMU parking. ;)
Oh, and about Babylon 5--so, you're a rookie, huh? I'm glad that you enjoyed JMS' take on religion. This is one of the reasons that I admire the man's writing ability. JMS is an atheist, but I've found that he has a better understanding of what religion *should* be about than many of the so-called Religious Right (Robertson comes to mind...). Sometimes it makes me wonder if he grew up in a religious home, because all throughout Babylon 5 there are numerous Biblical references; sometimes he actually quotes scripture, as with Mr. Sebastian's little speech to Sheridan and Delenn after their test in "Comes the Inquisitor" (His line "No greater love..." comes straight out of John 15:13). He's a tremendous writer, IMO.

Gundam Wing: Heero's okay, he just hardly ever shows any emotion. I mean, towards the end of the show it looks as if Relena has the steaming undies for him, but he still refuses to crack. He remains like a rock. But he's not the worst--Trowa beats him hands down. I mean, both have got the same schtick, both are "tortured, focused warriors", but at least Heero *occasionally* shows emotion. Trowa remains like a brick most of the show. That's why I like Duo. At least he's got a fun personality (and one bad ass Gundam. I love the Deathscythe).
Come to think of it, most of the Gundam men don't realize the women in their lives. Heero had Relena, who's a little annoying, but hey, she's interested in him. Trowa ignores his sister, who seems to actually care if he lives or dies even when he doesn't. Treize totally uses Uun when it's obvious she's in his thrall. And Zechs.....he's the worst. Noine is totally into him, has even got goddamn glamour shots of him in full Oz regalia, and what does he do in the end? Ignores her and takes up with Dorothy, the girl with eyebrows the length of yardsticks.
BTW, has anyone seen the ubercool Gundam toys and model kits? Toys R' Us sells tons of them. They're just beautiful.

Okay....I saved this for last, since I needed to save my energy for it.
The made-for-video Batman Beyond movie, Return of the Joker, has been delayed until December 12th. That's not the bad news--the really, terribly disturbing news is that the reason it may be delayed is that they are editing the hell out of it.
I don't know if you have heard or read any advance reviews for this film, but *I* have. THIS film is where we get all of our answers. This is the movie which explains why Bruce is so bitter, why he gave it all up, why Barbara and he do not get along, and what happened to the Joker (and why he's back). It's an intense movie. I don't want to give away spoilers....frankly I really don't know any....but the movie has been described as unbelievable. It's said to be exceptionally good. After this film, we will believe that Terry IS Batman, not a kid playing dress-up. It's scary, it's intense, people DIE, people get hurt for real, it's violent, it's horrific, the Joker is at his absolute worst, and when I say that I mean Killing Joke worst.....in other words, it's the kind of Batman Beyond movie that we've been waiting for. This movie, from those who've seen it, has been described as as good as if not better than Mask of the Phantasm, a movie which was pretty damn impressive itself. But that may be the problem. Those same people are saying that this movie should be rated PG-13 (yep, it's actually that mature of a film). And apparently, this is now scaring the studio, so they may be editing the film to excise the extra violence.
If I find out that this is due to any of the pressure that those pricks John McCain or Joe Lieberman have put on Hollywood, I'm gonna pop an aneurism.
I might cry if they screw this up. I SO want this movie to be everything that these people are saying that it is. I want a dark, mature Batman Beyond, and that's what this is being described as. If they edit it...if they butcher it....I may weep like a little girl.

There is a way we can possibly stop this, if you are concerned enough. You can write to Warner Bros and tell them to leave the film alone. Their addres is:

Warner Brothers HOME VIDEO,
c/o Warner Brothers Animation,
4000 Warner Blvd - Bldg 178,
Burbank, CA 91522

And you can write to the two Corporate Sales Directors for Warner Video

Director of Sales, Eastern Region
Suzzette Cabildo
1325 Ave. of the Americas
New York, NY 10019
scabildo@wb.com

Director of Sales, Western Region
Jessica Siff
505 n. Brand Blvd
Glendale CA 91203
jsiff@wb.com

I say we give them hell. Tell them that they better leave the film intact, *or else*. Anyone with me? I figure, at the least, you could send these two sales directors an email telling them to leave the film alone.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Friday, October 6, 2000 12:03:08 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Begin Part 2!!!

Nadia: Sorry to hear about your loneliness, hope you soon find friends to help you end it. Sorry about the assault too, I recommend you try to do what Kit said. She knows the subject of rape and assault counseling better than anyone else I know, having studied it so much. Her specialty is adolescent angst and curbing the bad situations that can result from it, but she knows this pretty well too. <grins> Look, whatever happens, you still have friends here. Remember that. Also remember that we're gonna stand by and help you no matter what. Kit and I are at least, we really can't speak for anyone else, though many others have said good things to you about this situation, I will admit. :) I know things look bad now, but trust me, you'll survive them and they will get better. You will be happier someday, as long as you continue to be as happy as you can with the hand life deals you. The passing grade you got on that paper shows the process is already starting. :) Hope more good things will happen soon, good luck. We'll keep you in our prayers. <hugs>

Wilek: Welcome back once again, and thanks for the encouragement. Good to have another weird in an incredibly cool way person back in our lives. :)

**BUFFY, ANGEL SPOILERS**
Excellent acting in this week's episodes. Buffy especially had some great emotional bits with Dawn's diary, her dialogue, and the various characters' reactions to having her around. Liked the Willow-Tara scenes and the Riley-Buffy ones too. And it's good to see Giles being motivated to make something of his life once again with the magic shop and all. Hope he doesn't end up like the last owner. Really enjoyed all the evidence of fallout from the battle with Dracula in this one, for Xander in particular- he was terrible as Dracula's minion, but it's nice to see him reacting so angrily to it as if he knows. :) As for Harmony and her Minions, well, Whedon's done it again. Created hilarious and yet compelling villains, that is. Their scene with Spike was especially funny, as was his with Buffy ("Lay off the nose!!" :). Glad Harmony escaped, hope she's just as entertaining when she comes back. For someone with a horribly shallow personality, she is interesting in a few ways. <grins> Looking forward to next week's episode- with two Xanders around, it will hopefully be twice the fun.

Angel was also good this week, if a little predictable thanks to the previews we'd already seen of it. The episode had a nice plot, and did a great job painting the paranoia and emotions of the 1950s and all the effects they could have on people. The paranoia demon made a good symbol for all of it, and Judy made a nice symbolic victim. Liked the development on Angel too, his acting made things especially memorable. Also enjoyed Cordelia and Wesley's research foreshadowing events in the past, Whedon did a masterful job writing that. Like Todd I too got a kick out of Wesley's paranoia remarks at the end. :) Good episode overall, looking forward to next week's. It will be nice to see Gunn get some attention this season like he did last one, and see Darla's plot in action as well. I was expecting something nefarious and chilling from her, but this was not it. And I mean that in a good way. :)
**SPOILERS OVER**

Green Baron: $ Thanks for the info on Benny Hinn, he looks like he's making a good comic bad guy in the RP so far. Speaking of which I hope you get back into the RP threads with Atilla and the Scouts soon. You have so many worrisome threads going with those characters after all. <grin> Not like the ones Mecord, who I haven't seen in a while and am worried about, does with his, but a few. Liked the latest Red Sith one a lot though. <grin> Even if I'm not too fond of Thatcher cause of what she did to Wales. :( Good enough to see decent intelligent people like Greenspan in there. Oh, btw, would you terribly mind if I had Steve Case and Ted Turner do something with OJ's white Bronco that would really make OJ mad? E-mail me for full details. <grin> $

SJ: $ Don't worry, Kit and I don't see any problem with you not doing an RP either. We do ones so much because we like it enough to make the time and because our stories are so fast-paced right now, not because we want to show others our superiority in it. <grin> Still, though, we do look forward to when you pick up your stories again. They have been especially entertaining of late. $ Also agree with you about the presidential debates, which Kit and I are not wasting our time watching. Good luck soon getting over the flu.

Robby: You'll have to forgive Kit and me, we never saw an episode of Taxi. Wish we had, if it's as good a show as you say. You're right that the joke you made in the RP probably would have sounded better coming straight from Hirsch and Lloyd. :( Good luck with the homework you're dealing with, and the classes that give it out.

Thanks also to SJ for posting that Pistoff's new story was up. I really enjoyed reading it last night. I'll send full comments to Pistoff when I get the chance, probably next weekend, but I will say in here that the character development, plot, fight scenes, and jokes were all great. Fans of Pistoff's work will definitely like this story, and perhaps so will fans of other work that's very much in the same vein like South Park, Buffy, etc. Hope he keeps on churning out good stories, I'll be reading them. And also hope that he someday is able to come back in here and say hi. :)

Dark Angel: Didn't watch it, one Angel every Tuesday night is enough for me. :) I'd also heard it wasn't that great on character development and full of cliches, that didn't sound good. Perhaps I heard wrong, I don't know. In any case, it's a bit too late now since I missed the first episode. Maybe I'll record and watch the second. <shrugs> I will be catching a new show this weekend, though- The District. It has Craig T. Nelson giving Washington crime what it needs and deserves, so I say that looks good. Hope the finished product lives up to the previews. <fingers crossed> I'll have comments on that show and the movie Get Carter (which Kit and I are seeing tomorrow night) next week.

DPH, Christine: My sympathies to you both in dealing with Alzheimer's disease. Both of my paternal grandparents have it. Every time I think about the smart wonderful people they once were and think about how I have to remind them who I am and what's going on with everything now whenever I call them up it makes me feel very sad.

And on that note, I'll end this post. See you all again next week probably. Again, sorry if I make any of you angry with anything I say in here, I hope you'll understand why. Also hope the trials in my life end soon, I don't know how much longer I can take them. Ditto for the trials in all of your lives, having things going stressful for yourself is bad but to have it happen for your friends too makes it worse. Much worse. Hopefully it will all soon be over so we can be feeling happy once more. :) Later!

**RESUME RP- RAVENS' SAGA**

"Hey Shap, Shauna," Jammer nods at the two members of the Ravens who have been waiting for him and the others in the Mall of America's food court as the screen comes back on. "How you doing?" "Yeah," Doug adds with a confused expression. "It's good to see you guys again, I think I have before." "We're alright," Shap replies, looking at all of them and raising an eyebrow when he sees Leah and Mansfield but not saying anything. "What are they doing here?" Shauna asks, pointing at the two commandos. "And who's he?" she asks, waving at Anthony. "And where's Lathrop?" "Lathrop's visiting his family," Tricia answers the latter question. "He'll be flying into town tomorrow to meet up with us. Would have been here today, but the flight got delayed." "That's happening a lot lately," Shap shakes his head. "Shauna and I had to drive here." "Leah and Mansfield here," Tom says as he sees Shauna still glaring at them, "are our friends now. They're not working for Thailog anymore. They're essentially part of the team." "If you say so," Shauna shrugs. "Now who is that?" "That's Anthony," Kit introduces him. "He's got quite an interesting story behind him. He joined us at Area 51." Anthony grins and waves. Shauna gives him a nod, then looks over the party once again. "I guess Gubio, Mist, and Erin are still in the Mid-East." "Last we heard they were," Elena replies, pulling out a chair and sitting down. "So have you two been waiting long?" "Not really," Shauna answers, frowning. "We checked out of the motel this morning and came here to meet you. I guess we'll stay in the Onslaught at the airport tonight, get Lathrop tomorrow, and then head for Atlanta." "Yeah, that sounds like a good plan," Keith nods. "Of course, it is important to know what's waiting for us there." "Lots of stuff," Shap grimaces. "It's why we had to get out. Ted Turner's got some kind of crazy plan to take over the world, he's working for Gothmenes. We don't know exactly what the plan is, but it involves repeating history, or so I heard Turner telling Steve Case." "The CEO of AO-Hell is involved in the plan?" Kit's eyes widen. "This can't be good." "He's not the only bad guy in there besides Turner," Shauna shakes her head. "There's also Geoffrey Fieger, Jamie Kellner…" "The guy who almost kicked Buffy off the air in Season 3 because of those episodes he thought were too violent?" Stephanie gasps. "Who censored and delayed them beyond belief? The same one who's responsible for so many of the WB's awful programs, like Zoe, Nikki, and Felicity? I want a piece of that jerk!" "Now, Stephanie, calm down!" Kit cautions her sister. "I'm not really sure all that was entirely Kellner's fault." "Yeah," Shap agrees, "and the shows he's put on WB aren't all bad, although I do detest those black stereotype comedies he got on there like Steve Harvey, PJs, and Jamie Foxx." "Me too," Shauna agrees, beginning to count off on her fingers. "There's also Maxine Waters, Archbishop Weakland of Baltimore ($Correct us if we're wrong, Green Baron, please!$), Joan Brown, Socks and Buddy- the White House pets, Al Gore…" "Don't you mean Al Bore?" Jammer asks. "Or Al Whore?" "His name is Gore, Jammer," Shauna growls. "Whatever," Jammer shrugs. "We're still gonna kill the Texas-hating bastard and his little wife too, right?" There are several chuckles and rolls of eyes around the table, followed by nods. "And that woman-hating everyone-who-doesn't-agree-with-his-worldview-hating bastard who calls himself a good Muslim, Mullah Omar of the Taliban," Shauna finishes. "Pat Robertson, Richard Simmons, and Susan Powter were in it too, but they're dead." "Yeah, we killed them on our way out of Atlanta," Shap adds, smiling. "The others are still alive though. And you forgot Geraldine Laybourne." "Oh, right," Shauna grimaces. "Thanks for the reminder. I didn't even know who the CEO of the TV networks Nickelodeon and Oxygen was until I found out she was involved in this." "Well, the plan is clear," Leah says. "We gotta make these people our targets, right? Get them all before they can do whatever it is they're going to. Right?" "I guess so," Doug says. "Wish there was some other way of settling it, but…" He shakes his head and sighs. "Uh, guys," Boris suddenly interjects. "Before we go on, shouldn't we find out who those people glaring at us from over there are?" Shauna and Shap give each other worried looks as he points out Holder, Gus, Lorna, and Sternie, who have now been joined by several others, including a tall thin slump-shouldered black man with a flattop and gold front tooth, a longhaired pimply-faced man in torn-up faded clothing who looks incredibly bored, and a blonde woman with a ditzy look about her who is wearing a security guard's uniform and glaring jealously at Doug (OOC- if anybody wants the story behind these people, look above to my rant). "Yeah," Kit says, crossing her arms and looking at Shap and Shauna angrily. "Who are those people?" "Maybe we're about to find out," Orion says nonchalantly. "They're getting up and coming our way."

As the Ravens look and see that it is so, then frown as one, elsewhere Thailog's five newest employees are looking at photographs of them and other information. "This bunch of crazy little American pigs are the biggest thorn in Thailog's side?" duGaul is muttering. "I'm surprised. He seems much more heavily armed than they are." "Now, now, Paul," Xothux says. "Remember, the Americans did kick the Nazis out of your nation in 1944, remember? They're not all wimps." "Do not say that!" Paul snaps, causing the armored midget to frown. "History books may say it was so, but it was not! Their help was inconsequential! It was the French Resistance that beat Hitler, it was the French!" Ty-Ubemngoe, Schaefer and Claudia share raised eyebrows and frowns as duGaul continues ranting until the diseased gargoyle cuts him off with a loud cough. "Maybe you are right, Paul," he says. "I didn't live in those times, I don't know. In any case, what matters is that these 'Ravens' are quite formidable, they outnumber us, and they are much more heavily armed than we are." "But they can't hurt us," Claudia says. "We are immortal." "True," T.U. (don't want to have to keep remembering the spelling of his name) agrees. "Yet we should be cautious just the same. They've killed apparently immortal beings before, or so this file says." Schaefer nods. "Well, I don't care," duGaul snaps. "We are going to kill them, so we may prove ourselves to Thailog. We want a piece of the world after he conquers it, don't we?" Everyone smiles and nods except for Xothux. "I'd rather replace him," the armored midget sighs. "Just look at the chaos in this base he lives in. A security system that doesn't work right, halls built like a confusing maze, those elves running by outside with the fire imps chasing them…" Everyone except Xothux looks out the door and sees Mecord and co. dashing down the hall screaming as they try to put out flames on their clothes Kharsus's cackling imps continue to create and grimace at each other in confusion and surprise. The armored midget just keeps shaking his head. "I hate it all. It will be, it must be changed!" As he makes this pronouncement, he slams his open palm on the table they are sitting around and the cracks and dimples in its wood all fade and disappear. The same effect begins spreading to the tiles of the floor, the walls, and every surface of the base as the screen goes blank.

** END RP AND POST**
Doug - [DougElder21@yahoo.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 10:33:38 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.48.dlls.grid.net

**RP HERE, LONG AND FULL OF GRATUITOUS VIOLENCE**

The screen comes on with the sound of Kovu's laughter and his drilling machine crushing rock as it burrows into the pillar formation before it. Vincent and Annabelle quickly dash out from behind the formation and run to the sides of the drill so he can not run down them both. "Fools!" Kovu chuckles at them. "I'll run you down eventually, I have plenty of gas. Now let's see, what did I learn in combat school? Oh yes, the female of the species is more deadly than the male. So kill them first!" Grinning, he turns the drill towards Annabelle, who screams and then runs as he bears down on her, gasping as she trips over a rock. Laughing, Kovu guns the motor, then gasps as there is a huge explosion in the drilling machine's fuel tank. He stops and jumps out of the machine's cockpit just as the fire spreads to it and the resulting explosion shakes the cavern and destroys the machine. "I think Terrell's plan worked," Gubio smiles at Bessus as they lower their guns and Annabelle, Vincent, and Terrell, the latter of whom has just recovered from being stunned and is sitting up, sigh in relief. "Human scum!" Kovu roars at Gubio and Bessus, raising his own gun and firing several shots that they are able to mostly dodge. A few graze them or bounce off their Kevlar. Then Annabelle roars and tackles Kovu from behind, causing Terrell to shout "No!" and rush forward with ready weapon. Laughing, Kovu slaps Annabelle across the face with his gun and then roars in pain as she simultaneously claws him across the face and the bulge inside her stomach lashes out and kicks him in the groin. Annabelle roars as her enemy wilts from the pain, then gasps as he growls in anger and throws her off. Leaping to his feet, Kovu curses the gasping Annabelle and stands over her, cocking his pistol. Then Terrell tackles him and knocks him down, causing the shot to go wild. Kovu tries to fire again into Terrell's body, but his gun clicks dry and he throws it away with a curse. Gubio and Bessus look on with frowns, trying in vain to get clear shots as the two male caiveh roll around viciously on the ground, Vincent looking worried and Annabelle smiling as they also watch. Nearby, Erin has been gesturing at Tiara to come on and attack her, both of them ignoring the nearby battle. "I smell your blood, human," the evil female caiveh sneers. "You're wounded. I won't even need this." Grinning, she throws her gun away and then extends her claws. "Fine," Erin replies coldly, drawing her scimitar and dropping her own gun. Tiara chuckles and rushes forward, fangs dripping and eyes blazing with hate. Erin meets her with a combination of slashes and kicks that knock Tiara back and down bleeding with several cuts. "A wounded animal is the most dangerous of all," Erin reminds her as she spits out a large volume of blood and curses loudly. Growling, Tiara then leaps back to her feet and swings several punches, claw slashes, and kicks at Erin, who does her best to parry and avoid them, grimacing with the few wounds inflicted by the ones that get through. "Bitch!" Tiara roars in pain and astonishment as Erin strikes back and cuts off her left paw and forearm as it strikes and creates claw marks on the cheek. "Die!!!" Roaring, she leaps and tackles Erin, causing her to drop the scimitar and knocking them both to the ground. Ignoring the bleeding and pain of her many wounds, Tiara rips into Erin with her remaining claws and teeth, not seeing the dagger in Erin's hand that is approaching the back of her neck, which Erin's other hand has just grabbed. Tiara roars in shock as the dagger penetrates, then slumps over in death. Dropping the knife as she sighs in relief, Erin then grits her teeth in agony as Gubio runs over and with the now-recovered Mist's help pulls Tiara's corpse off her. "Are you…" he asks. She nods and smiles. "Most of this blood's hers." Then, smiling again, she lies back and closes her eyes, letting herself faint with the pain. Gubio looks at Mist, then bends over Erin with a ready healing potion, applying its balm to her wounds. Nearby, Terrell and Kovu continue to wrestle around on the floor, clawing and punching at each other. "You will die, Terrell!" Kovu yells at his rival. "Idiot human-lover! I am superior! I always have been!" As Terrell roars indignantly in reply, Vincent looks at Bessus and extends his hand. Bessus frowns, then puts a pistol in it. Just as Kovu seems to get the upper hand on Terrell and force him into a choke hold, Vincent steps up behind the traitorous caiveh defense minister and puts the pistol against his head, causing him to gasp in surprise and Terrell to grin. "Something Catherine once told me," Vincent says. "Truly superior people do not have to constantly proclaim they are so. Everyone already knows they are superior, and they are content in continuing to prove it by their honorable deeds alone." Then, as Kovu is about to deliver a comeback, Vincent fires and he falls dead, a bullet in his brain. "Thank you," Vincent says, returning the gun to Bessus and then smiling at Terrell as he throws Kovu's corpse aside and runs to his mate's side. "Sir, we heard shooting!" one of the caiveh soldiers who came with Vincent shouts as they rush back into the cavern with ready weapons. Vincent shakes his head at them and sighs. "You're a little late." And the screen goes blank.

**SO ENDS THIS BIT OF RP**

Greetings everyone. How y'all doing today? Things are just going fine and dandy for Kit and myself- we've just finished a round of tests that seemed scheduled in the most inconvenient way possible for both of us. <sighs> We still both have papers to do this weekend too, they're due next week and hers is research. So don't be surprised if you see her tearing her hair out over it in her next post. She hates those papers a lot, as all students do, I think. :) Hope we did well on the tests, I doubt it with some of them. But we'll never know till we get them back. <grimace> Thanks to all who expressed their grief over my good friend LC Charles's death and who prayed for him while he was sick, I wish I could say I was sorry the prayers didn't work to end his pain in the way we wanted. <sigh> Kit and I attended his memorial service this morning (he was cremated, not buried) and it was a very sad and solemn occasion. We'll miss him very much. Glad to know some of the people in here share in our mourning (and I'm going to assume the ones who haven't said anything about it do too, just because I don't want to lose friends. I need all the friends I can get right now. You'll all see why in a minute). A moment of silence for the man who was very much my mentor as a security guard, who still could have taught me many lessons I am sure. I wear the badge of mourning for him proud to have known him yet sad that he is gone. <sighs> Moments of silence also for Benjamin Orr, the lead singer of the band Cars, who recently died of cancer, and of course for Coyote's faithful dog. :(

**RANT WARNING**
Now for something a little different- a question I have been wondering about ever since I started working security. You all know about some of the bad people I've encountered in this job and my tribulations concerning them- I've told you about Holder, about Calhoun- the one whose mother still has to wake him up every morning and he's 21, who lied on his reports and to all of us, who showed up late and made mistakes and didn't seem to give a damn-, about the guys who signed up to work for us and then were no-shows on their first days, and others. Well, recently, we're having to deal with more bad people like them. First, there's Brenda Falls, an idiot woman my boss fired for a long string of mistakes she made on the job- everything from upsetting the store management and driving too fast in the patrol vehicle, so fast she almost hit people frequently, to giving customers rides (we are security, not a shuttle!), and other mistakes I don't even want to mention. Abel fired her a few weeks ago, we all agreed it was about time, and yet you know what's happening? She keeps calling him, demanding her job back and frustrating him to no end. He reminds her of her mistakes, and she keeps acting like they don't even matter to her. <shakes head> On top of that, she's been showing up at stores recently, wearing her old uniform, claiming to be officers' relief. Today, she tried it with me, and I didn't even have to call Abel to check (as we are encouraged to always do), I knew she wasn't who she said she was. So I flat out told her to leave the property and stop wearing the uniform before she got arrested for impersonating one of our employees (impersonating a security guard is a class C misdemeanor in this state). She responded by dropping her jaw, then snapped at me a lot and called me "Abel's butt-kissing golden boy," something I am definitely not. Only barely able to keep myself calm, I continued to order her to leave the premises and do as I had said, for her own good. She finally did leave when I started counting to ten with my hand on the cell phone's send button (911 having already been punched in). <sigh> She's not the worse either. Here come the two people who are- Greg Williams and Stephen Walker. Williams we only had for three nights, he screwed up every single one of them. Didn't even patrol the parking lot, trashed the cart up with food wrappers and soda cans, was disrespectful, you get the idea. His last night he called in saying he was sick, and when his relief got there he revealed he was not sick- just bored and wanted a partner to ride around and talk with. <shakes head> Geez, if this guy didn't have the patience and ability to work security, why did he even apply? Anyway, he's gone now. The other guy, Steven Walker, is still with us unfortunately. He works nights too, and he started Monday of this week. He was trained mostly by me, I did my best to tell him how to do the job properly and well, and he seemed to understand and get every word I said. Then I found he hadn't even been listening. As was made obvious when I came on duty the next day and found piles of broken glass that looked like they came from smashed windows of cars in two places that would have been exposed and easy to watch for any good security guard who was doing their job (one was practically at the front of the store)- he claimed to know nothing about them even though they had in all probability gotten there on his shift-, and when the next night Abel came out to give him gas and couldn't find him anywhere at first. Until he looked in the guy's car and found him sitting there, listening to the radio and not doing anything else, with his phone and store walkie-talkie turned off. Abel gave him a good stern talking-to, and thereafter he was apparently acting okay. Just 'iffy' as Abel puts it. I don't know what that means, but it can't be good. To top it off, this guy is a liar, a self-absorbed snothead, and unreliable. <turns on sarcasm> We can't fire him, of course, because we still have a shortage of officers and Abel hasn't caught the guy doing anything really bad, like sleeping on duty, leaving the property while on duty, etc. YET. This really makes me mad, since I trained him and he apparently didn't listen to a word. All these people are frustrating those of us who know about them to no end, especially Abel and me. It particularly irks us that we hired them confident that they would not screw up, thinking they wouldn't, and now they have. <growls> For some reason the job seems to continue attracting people like this, the good ones seeming few and far between, and even they have their imperfections (one's a procrastinator and a fish out of water, two have unreliable transportation, another is a suspected thief, yet another is an arrogant jerk most of the time and frequently shows up late without good explanation, and me, well, I'm somewhat a fish out of water too, am prone to anxiety attacks, and have school constraining my time). With all this during a test week and in the wake of what happened with Gus and his buddies, and me just losing the man who was very much my mentor in the job- LC, well, let's just say I am really under a lot of stress. I'm reminded of something an idiot troublemaker cousin of mine once told me when I mentioned to him I wanted to work security and eventually be a cop- "That's crazy, Doug. You're too smart for that job, you're not the type who'd like it!" I must say after this, I am wanting to be a security guard and a cop even more after finding out why he believed that. The jobs need people like me, people who know how and are able and willing to do them right, it needs them very much. I know them now, and I'm proud to be such a person. Yet I am still frustrated by the number of people in the business of security who aren't. <sighs> I could use more hugs.
**RANT ENDS**

And I see a number of you could as well, so on to comments and replies. :)

Better Batman Beyond episode this weekend, good continuation to the Inque storyline. Wasn't expecting to see her again. And yet she had a nice comeback, that did a good job of warning people about the dangers of parenting with financial contribution alone. <grin> Thank goodness the one of my parents who had custody of me after the divorce didn't do that. :)

Daphne: I envy you cause of what happened with that teacher raising the paper grade. Suprising. Yet good too. :) Hope that things work out with the other teacher when the next test rolls around, I'll keep up the prayers just in case. <hugs> Congrats on your editorial appointment too. Good luck with all the work it entails, the deadlines especially. :)

Tim: You know, I bet I could top a lot of those news stories with episodes in my life. Thanks for mentioning them just the same, they made fun reading. <grins> And welcome back.

Jackal: <sighs> Well, even if your friend did do wrong, it's good that you're still standing by her and doing your best to help her. Good luck to you both, and hope things work out. <thumbs-up, encouraging grin>

Niamhgold: <grumbles> Sounds like somebody needs to remind that abstraction professor of yours the world does not revolve around her. Hope the frustrations you have with her ease up soon. Good luck in the tests ahead.

Winterwolf: <It helps when you know others care> Boy, does it ever. :) Hopefully more people will say they care to me now that they know the full extent of my problems in life right now, and that I'm NOT making them up. :( I know how that sounds, but frankly it's how I'm feeling right now. Sorry about any negative feelings that arise from the mood. Yeah, I know many of the people in here do care even if they don't say it, but sometimes things get so bad you have to be reminded no matter what. :(

Christine: Well, forgive us, but you sure seem nice when you're in here! <grins> I was surprised to find out you're not that nice on the job. Yet I bet you're real good at it. Like Kit, I recommend you watch Girl, Interrupted if you haven't already. You'd definitely like that film.

Lady Arianna: I hope he won't think the paper's too bad either, good luck on it and in the rest of your school also. Thanks for telling us about it, and good that even with it you're finding the time to come in here. I am too. :)

Daniel: Sorry to hear about your depression, glad that you're getting over it. I've never had that particular mental problem myself, but I have met many a person who has. Including family and friends. To say it's not easy is an understatement. I'm happy that your recent bout didn't harm you too much and that it's a long time before the next one- that's the really bad thing about depression, it has the tendency to strike more than once. :(

Emmabu: Once again I am shocked by the emotions of what your brother went through with that accident. <shakes head> Cars.Com really should have made space for the story! :) Glad things have been quiet for you recently, hope they stay that way a while (and soon become so for me too!). Thanks for the encouragement, the condolences on Charles (you seemed like the only one in here who gave them other than Kit! :( ), and the recent attention to Ask Doug. To get the bumper sticker she mentioned, try a Christian bookstore. We found ours at a local one (we also tried to get the manager of the place to take those awful "In Case of Rapture This Car Will be Unmanned" stickers off the shelf by reminding him of their un-Christian arrogance but he didn't want to do it because they sell so well. <groans> At least he was also selling ones that said- "Don't Worry. In Case of Rapture I'm Sure God Will Give Me Time to Park." :).

Traveler: Thanks for stopping by, good to know you're still alive and kicking. And thanks for the criticism, maybe I'll implement your suggestion if I ever get the time and desire to start writing again. As for filling the CR with long posts, someone has to since you aren't here much anymore. <grin> Yeah, I know we're not the same. <sighs>

Mandi: If I was in your situation I'd want some explanations too. Hope that school shapes up before you get out of it, somehow. Good that they fixed your e-mail before it became a serious problem. Now if they could just solve the other problems they created as well…Good luck. And <hugs>

SOROW: We love you too. Glad to have had you around so long, and to be what we have been. Hope we can continue for many more years. Hope your bad parental situation ends soon too, good luck with it. My advice is that if it gets too bad, point out the problem you have to your mother. She may not like hearing it, but she'll probably know you're right. :)

Dame Corax: Congrats on finding a way to get help from Gargs in passing classes. I'm sure more are ahead. <grin> Glad that you're doing so well in engineering too. Don't be worried about the jealousy, I'm sure you're getting respect from the people whose opinion really makes a difference. Keep up the good work. And good luck with the heavy homework load. :)

RU-486: Not really gonna comment on this issue, except to say that I feel very much like Jackal, SJ, and Kit about it. I'm against the morning after pill, I hate what social implications its approval has, and yet I realize we need it in some ways. Like Kit said, may all the people who end up taking it be those who don't deserve to have kids anyway. The world needs a smaller population, but a smarter one that has better been able to learn the lessons good parents so often impart would also be nice.

Jackal: Good luck with those parenting classes, hope they soon stop being so awful and embarrassing. I would be POed majorly if I had to take such a class, let me tell you. <chuckles> Still, it's good that you're learning how to do things right, and that your child's mom is being encouraged to quit smoking. I too hope it works. :)

Katara: You're welcome on the well-wishes, thanks for your prayers concerning LC. They were appreciated, even if…well, I've said that before. <sigh> Congrats on the new call center location, hope it works out well.

Airwalker: Welcome back, good to see you. Thanks for the short yet good comments on last week's Pendragon. Good luck in your studies and job hunt too, hope they soon both achieve good results.

Coyote: You know, I almost bought a Pontiac Grand Prix once. Now I'm even more glad I didn't thanks to what you said about the difficulty of repairing it. <laughs> Thanks, I needed that. :) Like I said above, sorry about your dog. Hope you soon get over the loss. <sigh>

Kyryn: I agree with you on taxes, hope this next administration shapes up and does them right. <sighs> You're welcome on the praise last week. And kudos on the good job editing this week's ep too, to you and Spike both. Good that I didn't find any continuity mistakes of the type Selanit did last week this time around. And I was looking.

**PENDRAGON SPOILERS**
This was a great episode too, the writing was as good as last week even though it did seem like it had a bit too many plot resolutions jammed in there. I really liked the development on Mary and Merlin, and the insights we got into the latter's past. The scenes with Doug and Dulcinea were good ones too, even though I did have to read Spike and Todd's answers to points Kit brought up and think about things a bit before I really got the scenes where Doug and Mary first met gargs. Liked those scenes just the same, even more after I fully understood the character development going on in them. Excellent development on Kylie too, I was really expecting her to pass on at the end of this two-parter, and to see that she isn't is good. I look forward to seeing what she does at the World Gathering later in TGS. Really enjoyed the various pictures, especially Spike's showcasing of sketches that didn't get used. Wish they had been. <sigh> The episode's plot was great too, it had too many threads and yet they were tied together well. Especially liked Feldman and Ratcliffe's fate at the end, usually I hate it when memory-wiping is in a story but for some reason it worked well this time around. Their dialogue and fight scenes were pretty good too. My favorite bits were those with Remus and Dorcas, I hated her in the first part of On Holiday but after this one I think I can get used to having her around. :) Also liked the scenes with the beasts and the Caledonians, I wish Curran good luck in training them. Heh. Caspian and Rosalind's development was also nice, I'm glad they didn't stay mad at each other for too long. Really hated it when Cervus butted into things like he did, but glad that they gave him the lack of attention he deserved- hopefully Tori will straighten the bull deer out. :) And I also enjoyed the scenes with Dodger, Reg, Kirstie, and Pip (especially nice pic of the last three). All in all, I give the episode a 9.5/10. Hope we have many more like it in quality this season, I'm anxiously awaiting the next. :)
**THESE SPOILERS END, SO DOES PART 1 OF POST**
Doug
Thursday, October 5, 2000 10:32:12 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.48.dlls.grid.net

**Dame C enters the room, sitting down at the Tea Table with Coyote and offering him some cinnamon tea.**

Coyote> My condolences, friend. I know how tough it can be, but at least you and your dog loved each other the entire time! I'm very sorry for your loss.

Green Baron> Hey there! It's kinda funny...I totally agree with your political ideas. And the Capitalist Jedi Council is just awesome! Greenspan rules. There's a socialist/communist group here on campus that's always out trying to be heard...every time I see 'em, I have to resist the urge to yell "Greenspan rules, and capitalism forever!" :) Of course, if I did, I'd probably have to run pretty fast...some of the 'young socialists' look pretty scary. ;)

Gside> I know. I just realized that my initials were DC also...well, as long as I don't get confused with the infamous *other* DC. Hm...maybe I'll modify the name...

Robby> I understand the college homework situation. I'm going through it right now. :) What college are you going to, by the way?

Well, I'd better get going...homework (and whatever dinner I can scrounge up) awaits! :)

**The Dame pats Coyote on the shoulder sympathetically, before disappearing back into the shadows.**
Dame Corax
Thursday, October 5, 2000 10:05:46 PM
IP: reslife208-36.rescomp.arizona.edu

Hi ya'll.
(Sigh)
Long day at the end of a long week, right before a long weekend (not the good kind of long weekend, the bad, driving to houston with two people it drives me crazy to be in close quarters with, but I'm too nice to say no kind of long weekend.) Oh well, it'll be fun! <insert sarcastically exagerated enthusiasm here>

but enough about me.

Coyote> My sympathy. I've only had my cat, Goblin, a little while, and I really can't stand the thought of anything happening to her.

Pendragon> Part 2 of On Holiday was a wonderful pay off of part 1. I don't have the time or energy for a lengthy critique, so i'll just applaud quietly. (Which begs the ancient question, what is the sound of one keyboard clapping? Probably "clickity, clickity, clickity...)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, October 5, 2000 08:55:37 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.228.5.dallas1.level3.net

Emambu> I think Blockbuster carries some Ranma 1/2. The one I live by carries a few in the anime section. You could try and look for a nearby anime store in your town or in the area. We have a good one in my town called Alternative Universe. :)
Mary Flanders
Thursday, October 5, 2000 08:49:23 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Taleweaver- Heero isn't really a jerk. He's basically just REALLY devoted to his mission and what is better for the world, but does care about Relina and his friends, he just doesn't show it. (At the ewnd of the series he refuses to kill Zechs because "Relina would be sad.") and he's not even close to the center of the Gundam Wing Universe, he's just the main character and got the most screen time. Mostly he's just the character that happened to get the Wing Gundam, then later Wing Zero. (Both Gundams being the only ones CAPABLE of keeping up with Talgeese and Epyon) Almost any character that would have gotten those two vehicles would have gone through more or less the same process, with only a few changes here and there. If Duo had gotten those Gundams and Heero had gotten Deathsythe, events would have played out mostly the same, including some of the self detenation bits. Honestly, Treise Kushrenada was the center of the Gundam Wing Universe. He was responsible for almost everything that took place in the series. Heero just happened to be the soldier on the front lines with the most important weapons, and a few interesting personality quirks. (He was out of action for over a month while the world kept going...) Also, despite Endless Waltz being really bad where the main plot is concerned, I will give it credit for one thing. Once you see it, (I think it airs October 20?) and assuming all the scenes and dialouge remain intact, almost everything Heero did in the course of the series will be viewed in a different light. Especially everything involving Relina and the Gundams.

As far as the typical brooding Heero and dark dystopia futures... Well, Vampie Hunter D made the first one popular, and then later Piccolo and Vegeta from DBZ made the type more popular. And the dark futures, well... First of all, Akira made the second popular. And honestly, bright and cheerful futures aren't quite as interesting as ones gone horribly wrong. (At the same time, happy stories like Jetsons and Back to the Future portray happy futures no problem.)


Robby
Thursday, October 5, 2000 07:17:48 PM
IP: spider-tn021.proxy.aol.com

*hugs Coyote* I'm sorry for your loss. From experiance I know that losing a pet is never easy. If you need to talk, I am here
Bronx
Thursday, October 5, 2000 06:48:39 PM
IP: spider-wd071.proxy.aol.com

RP WARNING!!!
**George Mason University
In a special room meet a number of heroic figures known more for their wisdom than their warrior knowledge though some contain both.

In the room is a list of heroic figures for Truth, Justice, and Freedom, aka capitalism. Seated are Walter Williams, Milton Freidman, Margaret Thatcher, Alan Greenspan, Larry Elder, Harry Browne, Carla Howell, and at the front General Auguste Pinochet.

"This Council of the Capitalist Jedi Council has begun. So far, things look grim. Our head leader, known only as the warlord has been missing for several months. We have no idea where he is or who he is. Not too long after, Elian has returned to Cuba where he will be trained as Castro's apprentice in the RedSith.."
"Lady Thatcher," Larry Elder interrupts, "but are you certain Fidel is the Master? He has not had any apprentice to know of before that."
"Do you mean you believe that rumor of Red Che still being alive," interjects Milton Friedman.
"Well, Milton, we have not seen his corpse and cleansed it. Let us not forget of the undead RedSith that cause so much trouble in the Universities. Communism shoudl be dying, but they continue to belive their crap." Everyone resorts to laughing, until Walter Williams speaks up.

"That is very funny. HUAC would have most Liberal Arts professors in the UC system deported to Vermont and other Communist strongholds, but seriously, we have no proof of Che Guereva still being alive. Now, one of our Capitalist Jedi Knights wishes to settle the score with Castro. General Auguste Pinochet liberated Chile from the evil Commisar Allende almost thirty years ago and has ruled it wisely until he lost an election, and then stepped down quietly unlike murderous scum like the Sandinistas. He wishes to have one final duel with Castro and hopefully we can show Elian the joys of capitalism and end the reign of terror that has gripped Cuba for over forty years."

Alan Greenspan raises his staff bearing a dollar sign.
"I propose we vote on supporting Pinochet's noble decision." Margaret Thatcher raises her sceptre, bearing a British pound. "I second it. All in Favor?"

After a debate the decision is approved and the Capitalist Jedi prepare their aged General for what may be his final battle.**
END RP!!

All this politics produced a nice fun RP :)

SOROW> If I lived closer, I'd escort you ::hugs::

Coyote> I lost George a few years back, so I hope your spirits revive soon ::hugs::

DPH> Actually, each state should have a minimum wage using the US amount as a price floor. IMO, Arkansas and NY would have very different minimum wages, just judging by costs of living.

The definition of how much Government is enough is debatable. Publci chopice Economics has soem godo arguments about it, which are not necessarily favoring one side or another, but they are realistic about Government and support it only where it would be more efficient than the private sector.

Jackal
<<I've been around long enuf to know that means: You've pissed me off.
Sorry, man! >>

Actually, it doesn't. It means what it says. If you pissed me off, I'd let you know. I doubt I'd used a Pistoff/SJ/Jewel approach, but I'd have let you know, probably by e-mail, so you haven't done anything to upset me.

SJ> I can't wait to see The Ranger stuff. I saw that episode and it seemed straight out of this book A Canticle for Leibowitz, featuring a monastery after a nuclear holocaust. It featured the Great Burn, if that helps you any. I liked the way Earth showed its dominant religions in I think Thursday's episodes. It surprises me that the other worlds wouldn't have the same diversity.

Entity> The Jacksonian view of last government is old, but there are newer ones. Gore still seems to be a disciple of the New Deal Benevolent Dictator theory, the New Deal should have ended 50 years ago, with any good programs evolving, like FICA and TVA. Bush will evolve FICA, which Gore whines about risk and wants to keep the staus quo on Social Security. Our Government is meant to do limited functions, like Defense and printing money and what was mentioend in our Constitution. We don't need a Department of Agriculture or of the Interior. A few agencies have come about that should be maintained. Most Departments need to be Consolidated. Veterans Affairs Belongs in Defense. Agriculture belongs in Commerce. Commerce and Labor should be combined. Education should have its limos removed and go to the schools. All Welafare and Relief programs belong under one big department. The Interior and the EPA should be combined. OSHA belongs under the new Labor-Commerce Departmnet. Al Gore is trying to be Santa Claus with all of his promises. Now, he is running for CEO of our nation, not head gift giver with other people's money. Bush has dissapointed me with his Sniors drug program, but at leats his plan is $10 billion a year cheaper than Gore's. I prefer Gore over Raaaalph Nadir or Communist party candidate Gus Hall, but with the choices, I wish Hong Kong was a sovereign nation right now.

Al Gore may also send soldiers on dangerous peacekeeping missions in the Balkans like Clinton has instead of easy wars like Granada where we have a more pressing interest. If Gore is elected and Jaden or I get killed in some peace-keeping mission, I hope you can live with your vote.

<<How different is preventing a fetus from forming, from aborting one after it has formed?>> Well, preventing a life is different from taking one. What's the difference between aborting a baby developing for eight months and delivering a bay then suffocating it in a plastic bag? The line can blur on the other end. Even worse, after the first trimester, a baby can feel pain. Personally, that disturbs me.

Taleweaver> The Vice Presidential debate should be much more interesting to watch. It will be a gentleman's discussion.

Daniel Johnson> That is truly a sad thing. I doubt I would be so accomadating to my own mother. There are hospices that can be more helpful. In a sense it is unfortuante about the costs of eldercare, but it is also a sign of medical progress for how long people live now. I guess nothing is a full win or a full loss.

As for children starving, it is very sad, though it is mainly the parents who are responsible. even the wealthy are malnourished in our society, largely because of irresponsibility and the poor should be given food stamps that allocate _food_, specifically a balanced diet rationed to them that won't be as easy to convert into other things. It is does not cost that much to give a child a bowl of oatmeal or gruel for breakfast, a decent lunch, and a healthy dinner, as opposed to designer babyclothes and expensive shoes.

DPH> I also support cutting down our debt instead of a tax cut for now. Still, between a tax cut and social spending, a tax cut is preferrable. BTW, you have confused deficit with debt.

I'm off to work on Business Policy.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Thursday, October 5, 2000 06:05:48 PM
IP: 141.164.133.101

Entity:
I'm 30 and my mother will be 70 in December. Too young for either of us to have to go through this. Sigh. I'm coping though. :)
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DPH:
Thanks.
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Christine:
::Hug:: back. I remember you talking about your grandmother before. At first I did feel a little guilty about putting her in the hospital, but the truth is that she was in more danger at home alone. It's not fair that this happened, but there's no one to blame for it; we just have to do what we have to do. At least I can now sleep at night. :) All my friends and family agreed that I did the right thing, but it's going to take some time to get used to. And the house is SO empty and quiet. :( I think it might be time to get another pet.

Well I'm off to the hospital for a visit. See you later.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, October 5, 2000 06:04:48 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-3.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Daniel > I feel for you ... that is one of the hardest situations a family has to deal with. We went through the same thing a couple of years ago with my grandmother. There's such a negative guilt-inflicting stigma to "putting them in a home," but believe me, you did the right thing for her and for yourself, so that she can get the level of care that she needs. ::hug::

Update > was gonna do one today but my computer won't let me. :P Have some new pics and stuff to add, so stay tuned!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 05:45:51 PM
IP: 07-122.009.popsite.net

Alzheimer's disease - My only living grandfather has it. My sympathies for anyone who has a relative whose condition gets close to that.

**POLITICS/ECONOMY**
My understanding of the current economic blessing is this: America is doing well because the trificet (trillion dollar defecit) is being paid off. I can not understand why Republicans want to cut taxes so much when cutting the deficit has the same effect on the economy AND enables future tax cuts. I would rather see spending cut and the defecit paid off than see tax cuts.

Can someone please explain this to me: my tax rate is an irrational number. I made $234.58 one week and I paid $19.44 in Federal income tax. Maybe I did the math wrong.
**END POLITICS/ECONOMY**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, October 5, 2000 05:32:00 PM
IP: max1-41.cwy.cei.net

Dan> I'm just without words. How old are you?

Jannie> Thanks for approaching this with a mind set like my own.

My definition of "real": Yes, Bush was more laid-back and relaxed during the debate, and Gore was more wound-up. But I think that difference in them actually says just the opposite to your conclusion. Bush's relaxed attitude doesn't appeal to me. This is the office of the President of the United States. Not the leader of the local bowling team. Bush strikes me as too laid-back. Gore came across as more pro-active. And in that way, he seemed more "real" as in what a real presidential candidate should be, to me.

As for arrogance, I don't know. I didn't see anything in him either way. But if he is arrogant... all of history's greats have been full of themselves. So I wouldn't see that as a negative, necessarily.

On tax cuts: Maybe you're right. But doesn't it say something if you're able to sway me more than the candidate running for office?

<<<If you want more government involvement - then you need to experience life in a communist country for a while.>>>

Well... that's just a tad over the top. For one thing, I don't even necessarily WANT more government. It's just that Gore sounds like he has plans for getting things accomplished. This is a free country. It's a democracy. Its ours and it's going to stay that way. In a democracy, we ARE the government. Nobody like Gore is going to come into office and turn us toward totalitarianism. I think this particular perception (or fear, if I may say) is what's getting Bush all the steam he has. It seems to date back to the era of Jackson and before. I thought it was over, personally.

As before, thanx for giving your say. If no one replies, I feel like a rambling jackass... the judgment on which we'll leave for another day. :)

Heero> I think calling him a jerk is too simplified. Then again, calling him "deep" may be too shallow. I dunno. I do think he's an interesting character, though. He's strong-willed. That seems to be what the trend is in Japan. Gundam Wing, particularly, with the Zero System and all the shifting allegiences, seemed to have clarity as one of its themes.
Entity
Thursday, October 5, 2000 04:15:09 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Well, once again I'm hopelessly behind it seems. But, then that's the story of my life.

Thank you to those who wished me well about the depression. I'm doing better now.

Condolences to Coyote. Putting my dog to sleep was one of the truly traumatic experiences in my life. The only other thing that affected me more deeply was when I discovered that my father was dying of cancer. Until now.

My mother has dementia. She's had it for a couple of years now. It doesn't appear to be Alzheimer's disease or at least it's not progressing like AD usually does, but there is definitely damage occurring to the brain. Fortunately, she has some short-term memory, can recognize people, and doesn't wander but she does get confused sometimes. I've been able to take care of her myself until now. Last week she took a dramatic turn for the worse. She became incontinent and had a great deal of trouble walking. Caring for her was wearing me out; I wasn't sleeping or eating very well and at times I felt as if I were having a nervous breakdown. I might have if not for the Prozac. So on Sunday I finally put her in the hospital. That was the hardest thing I have ever had to do and yet probably one of the best. Now she's safe and well taken cared of while they see if there is anything else they can do for her. Of course, what happens after the hospital is the big question; nursing homes are incredibly expensive. The average cost is around $50,000 a year. And Medicaid won't pay for it unless you're dirt poor. So you have to be either living in poverty or a millionaire to afford long term care in this country. The middle class gets screwed again. That the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world is unable or unwilling to care for its senior citizens after they have given decades of service to the community is just shameful. Of course, it's just as shameful that any child in this country should be allowed to starve.

Ok, now I'm starting to rant so I'd better shut up now. Sorry for that, but I needed to get it off my chest. And distraction is a good thing. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, October 5, 2000 03:40:46 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-3.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Caliope> Angel episode was about a haunted house. At end after the defeated the paranoia whispering demon Confusious or something, Angel said the hotel is now theirs. Presidental Stuff> Al Gore will win "After Clinton was the boring one" ~Batman Beyond
James Birdsong
Thursday, October 5, 2000 03:26:06 PM
IP: h2odam.sdccd.cc.ca.us

'ellos! ^_^

So...first casualty of the year, Cali totaly forgot about her art history test and didnt ever re-read her notes!!! Gawd! I knew most of the stuff but I didnt remeber some of the detailes, so maybe I'll get a C....*grumbles* Now I'll actualy have to study the rest of the year to bring up the grade...study...eeeewww...

Alright then, its done, and my time mashine is curently out of order, so nothing I can do about it! :P

Winetrwolf> <<NY>> lol right right :P I've never REALy been to NY, just niagara falls and the airport :P <<Roswell>> OK, dont be scared or nothin', but once I saw this Roswell series book and it said something about michael and his new love Isabel, wich compleatly freaked me out! And I dont like Tess either, never did :P well, all we can do is wait and find out

Spacebabie> <<Fushigi Yugi>> Ah, I have the oav's in my backpack just now! :P Its a fun series even if you more than ocacionaly wish to strangle the main character :P Lots of hunky anime guys too :P Hope you enjoy it! :)

Emambu> <<movies>> I think I saw one kindda like that but it was called "La noche de los lapices" and they were students who mysteriously disapeared. <<Ranma>> lol yes, get to it! :P Its a fun series tho, I have to start renting the new eps myself :)

Gside> <<Cids>> lol ok! I havent checked into that series yet, so I wouldnt know :P <<Baka song>> LOL I used to have that song recorded but I lost it! They have this other song (wich I dont remember the name of) that reminded me alot of Queen's Bohemian Rapsody :P As far as music goes, they've got all kinds :P

Buffy/Angel stuff>

Well, I DID see Buffy and I'm glad of the fact that Dawn has just kindda been suddenly placed into the series and I didnt just miss a crucial ep or 2 :P It was good tho and I cant wait for next week's! As for Angel, I saw the begining but then I kindda got company and missed the rest of it :( Oh well :P

Well, gotta get! I'll see ya guys!!! *HUGZ all and...gets! :P*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 02:19:34 PM
IP: 136.145.83.183

Hey all,

Quick question, when is the new and improved comment room supposed to be up. I'm just itching to use Harthoth as my image.

Pres. Debates> Heard, them while I did my homework. I wasn't impressed by either. There were a lot of chances where each candidate could have taken the ball and ran with it, but stuck to the safe, politic (not necessarily meant in the political context) answer. And why is it that Lincoln-Douglas debate on the Pres level isn't done like in Speech Tournaments. I'd love to see both of them speaking a mile a minute, trying to win points on ads and disads.

Dark Angel> I taped it and consequently missed all of Angel. I haven't seen it all so I'll reserve judgment. Basically, it seems like Fox's answer to Buffy.

This and Gundam Wing have raised two question about the fabric of the sci-fi/anime universe.

1) Is it one of the rules of the anime universe that the bigger a jerk you are the more popular and central to the universe. Heero is my biggest example of this, but looking back on some of the anime I've seen, it seems like a long parade of moody, broody loners all with a selfish jerkiness to them. It seems like the only partial exception to this is Tenchi. Maybe this falls in with rules like Indecency Invulnerability.

My other question is more of general sci-fi. It seems like the overwhelming majority of future/near-future venues are all depressed, urban areas looking for fresh coat of paint. This bugs me only in that I like to explore worlds, especially in sci-fi/fantasy, find out what the rules are and how the game is played. But the neo-slums of the future motif makes me wonder if this isn't some fantasy of some folks. A group of people looking for dystopia (or dinotopia, if you've read the book)

Just a couple of questions that came to mind. What do you all think?
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 01:55:37 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

*Warpmind enters, waltzing along to a tune unheard by anyone else.*
Found an awesome mp3, which I suspect Wilek, at least, will love, and I can't shake the image of dr. Anton Sevarius having this one on constant loop while he's working... and until Gside someday decides to post it, I'll keep my trap shut. ]:)

Yuo guys remember those personality tests, right? I just realized something scary... my personality turned out to be "Mentor"... I am an incurable punster... I have a peculiar sense of humor, and I frequently make myself the butt of a joke, as likely as I emerge the winner of a verbal duel... Great Scott! I'm a trickster! Soon as I learn to fling magic with enough precision, save a place for me between Puck and Coyote! (And don't ever try to pull a fast one on me again...) ;)

Mara: Labyrinth with a Gargoyles cast? Presumably, Alex would get the part of the baby (don't remember its name from the movie...), right? Oh, and Puck nad Angela sounds like a good choice... How 'bout Brooklyn and Lexington for those talking doors? :)

Christine: Consider the list already written. (You'll probably have it by the end of next week - got lots of itty bitty pieces of paper to locate for it...) :)

Emambu: Don't ask me how that whole story came to a conclusion. I just happened upon the link and figured some of you guys might want to see it... and I wuz RIGHT!

SJ: Ooo, yet another new fic from good ol' Pissy... *Sigh* I'm really WAY behing in my fanfic reading... :(

Gside: A Tolkien-ish "G"-rune? Uh, really, what... never mind. I probbly don't want to know anyway. ;) As for my lid, you ain't even scratched the surface of it. Generally, it works on a pressure-sensitive valve, much like the safety vent on steam engines. You DON'T want to know what I think when I'm alone... ];) Oh, and the song... drat. No, really. Drat! :( Waitasec... there was a binary at the end of "Mission to Mars"? Where? After the end credits? Before the end credits? Agh! Tell me! Tell me!

Fire Storm: Ten dozen adult xenomorphs? Bah. No problem for me - not with THIS! *Flings up a HUGE gatling-type gun, which looks remarkably similar to the model mounted in the A-10 Tank Killers.* Specially modified antacid gun. Nothing better against xenomorphs. ];) Oh, and we can enchant the stuff afterwards? Hmmm... (hey, can you send me a copy of that Grimorum, eh?)

Well, 'tis about it... later, gang. I gotta get to the bank tomorrow, and make an extraordinarily hurried money order... I have *10* working days to get the money to the Gathering staff. International mail. In other words, this'll probably be the hardest part... :(
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, October 5, 2000 01:01:58 PM
IP: mp-217-198-200.daxnet.no

Gside: <Sorry, just saw it on the engineering department tours that were required for Into to
Engineering>
Hmm... as for me, I saw one once! And I saw it alot on the discovery channel. Does that count? :)
<Could you give me the time to learn what my job will actually be?>
No problem. Heck, it will also give me time to learn more about it.
<"I don't know Clem, but as long as they stay away from the sheep I'll be happy.">
"But didn't ya-all see what they did to Ole Brown's sheep Flossy? Hot DAMN! If they could only do that to my sheep!..." <The farmer looks off into the shy, whistfully>
<And I'm sure we'd keep away from the cow with the window in its stomach, because that is an institution.>
Huh? Gateway?

Warpmind: <Ten dozen wild horses couldn't keep me away from G2001>
Hmm... how about... 10 DOZEN ADULT XENOMORPHS THAT ARE HUNGRY?
Of course, they don't eat nice people. And besides... do you know how hard international transport laws are for animals?
<Wa... waitasecond... those don't work, do they?>
Ya just gotta enchant it the right way. Hey, it worked for my copy of the Grimorum!

Wilek: <Try www.spaceproxy.com, although it tends to reduce connection efficiency, so I only use it for posting...>
Thats more of a IP disguising company. I need a way to share the internet connection of 1 computer to 3 others.
<Madame Destine>
Na... She/He/IT has taste!
<Seen Antz? There's a great version there; too bad it's so short...>
VERY true! And there is an instrumental version in Die Hard 3 (And various movies from WW2)
<[Wilek scratches his eyes out with a shard of glass.]>
World domination through self mutilation!
<Oh no! :( Hope at least you come through this alright (not to mention the dog)>
I'll be fine. And I hope the dog will be too!
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Coyote: <Hugz> At least your dog was loved and knew it.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:07:28 PM
IP: 02-137.008.popsite.net

***Kyryn steps in.***

Coyote> {{{{hugs}}}}, my friend! I've lost two big dogs over the years (one twelve years old and the other fifteen). I understand your loss.

Politics and taxes> Well, I've been a full time wage-earner for the past eight years. I've watched the cost of living increase( i.e., gas costs, rent costs, food costs, etc.,) and I've watched the tax bite taken out of my paycheck (including FICA, Medicare, and Social Security) increase, even though my wages have stayed roughly the same. Funny, the current administration promised eight years ago that the low end wage earners (i.e., $22,000 and under) would see breaks and benifits. Well, my salary has ranged from $18,000 to $22,000 over those years and I haven't seen a single break or benefit. It's becoming harder and harder for people at lower end of the salary scale make a decent living. I don't want to see the government take any more of my money, I want to see them do better with the amounts that they have.

BTW, I finally got to see Mononoke this past weekend. I actually enjoyed it, but then I've always liked Miazaki's work. I also got to see an anime called "Ushio and Tora" -- very funny!

Later All!

****Kyryn steps through a hole in the floor and disappears. The hole disappears after her.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, October 5, 2000 11:06:57 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

SJ> you love a good political debate ;) just teasing!
I'm glad too that any political discussion has been kept on a calm and respectful level. We are all entitled to our opinions and that's what makes this such a great country =)

Entity> You thought Gore looked more real than Bush? I guess this is where perception really comes into the picture. I found him to be such a fake. It really appeared to be a strain on him to look "casual". Personally, I thought he was trying too hard to look like Ronald Reagan. I saw arrogance in his face and body actions. *shrugs*

You want more government involvement? more government sponsored programs? *blinks* How is all of this going to be paid for? Taxes. Did you know that if I wanted to spend MY retirement fund (after I retire) that it will be a 40% tax for early withdrawal? This is compliments of the clinton/bore administration.
We don't need any more government programs - we need the government to stay out of our personal lives. I don't need Big Brother watching over me and telling me how to do something or tax the hell out of MY hard earned money. We have enough programs already.... they need to be fixed, not more added the already strained budget.
In all actuality, very few of the programs proposed during an election campaign are followed thru with. But, at least Bush has the best idea I've heard in a long time - give it back to the people. It's OUR money, not theirs. If at least the "attitude" is there - then we'll see the government make a swing towards that. I'd much rather have it be an attitude of it's MY money instead of an attitude that "we'll just tax some more of their money and build a bigger government."
Bore kept slinging about the tax cut for the rich... I have yet to see the benefits from anything that clinton/gore have done with their policies. On a state level, I have seen and received benefits from what Bush has done since he became governor. I'm working middle class and I'm hit the hardest with taxes and paying for everyone else's "programs" and "assistance".
Bore has a long history of lying. Do you think he stopped just because he's running for president? He couldn't even go thru a debate without lying. The story of the student in Florida & not having a desk? (I knew that sounded wrong when he said it) It's all a lie. The principal came out and made a statement. Gore claimed to be in Texas with FIMA during the floods... he was never here then. Sure, these are "small" lies - but they show a pattern of behavior.

perception once again: I thought the calculator joke was hilarious! For one thing, Bush was correct... fuzzy math. Clinton has been spouting fuzzy math for the past 8 years. The economy is NOT as great as what he claims... there is NOT a surplus like he talks about. Taxes are higher, government spending is higher and the departments are all disgruntled and falling apart. I have many friends and relatives that are either military or government employees so I have heard it from the "real" people and not some press secretary.

If you want more government involvement - then you need to experience life in a communist country for a while.

Like I said to SJ - we are all entitled to our opinions. :) I hope that I have not come across as angry or slamming you in any way... that's certainly not my intent... just having a political discussion with you. =) I appreciate your comments and opinions.




Jannie
Thursday, October 5, 2000 08:20:56 AM
IP: 64-240-37-127.hou.port.mytelco.com

*appears on the sofa*

Another short visit from work - hope my boss doesn't read this :)

Again I won't comment on Pendragon - all I'd have had to say has been said already. Good job, Christine. And that reference to 'pocket dragons' was a great one :)

Sevarius Jr.> Sorry to say, but that link of your doesn't work..... it cannot. ALL stories have that link, and the system behind the scenes decides which story will get displayed. There ain't a way to link any story in the archive, except mayhaps with a backdoor trick, but that's nothing reliable.

Emambu> As far as I know both have the same meaning.... it's a matter of taste I think. I prefer writing it 'fay', but 'fae' seems to be used as well. FUnny thing: my dictionary only includes 'fay' but lacks 'fae' - that either means it doesn't exist or it's a writing those writers didn't consider - which is possible due to the fact that they mostly follow the Oxford English (of all choices)

With my comments made I better head back to work...

*disappears, leaving a cloud of smoke hanging in the air above the sofa*
Guandalug la'Fay
Thursday, October 5, 2000 06:59:19 AM
IP: mailgate-b.ais-gmbh.de

*Kat wanders in and flops onto a beanbag chair in the corner of the room. She reaches into her satchel bag and pulls out a cold, frosty bottle and prepares to enjoy it while reading through the CR posts*

*spews soda on her computer moniter..what's ya think was in the bottle?*..Robby>....yellow light..slow down..I LOVE IT!!!!!! roflmao :)

SORROW>....a bit late, please feel better soon. In fact I hope everyone has a bountiful amount of good days starting RIGHT NOW..

in for a penny, in for a pound *joins in the group-hug*

Coyote>....*gives Coyote a special hug* I know how you feel my friend. I think back to the dogs I've lost in the past and still feel the pain of their loss just as keely today as I did all those years ago.

SJ>....a shameless plug for Pisty eh? So the guy is still floating around in cyberland. Even though I felt he had some extreme opinions, I'm glad to see that he's still keeping up with his writings. Hope he is at least doing well and working at something more satisfying that Pizza Hut now.

****MINI DARK ANGEL SPOILER (SORTA)******

A few interesting things to note about the show. This is a show that takes place in the not so distant future. I'm assuming in Seattle, since in once scene it looks like Max(?) is standing on top of the Space Needle. At the beginning, when the kids break out of the compound, the year is 2009. I'm guessing the kids were supposed to be around 9 years old. If that's the case, then that means that this army of genetically enhanced "super-soliders" was born this year. *hummmm* Some event called "The Pulse" occurs sometime around 2009 wiping out all electronic files pretty much everywhere. When the detective makes the comment about all the DMV files west of the Rockies being wiped out, I had to laugh. Man if only it were that easy to clear up parking/speeding tickets etc. :)

****END MINI SPOLIER******

I'm interested in knowing if anyone had any opinions on Dark Angel. After all the hype from Fox about the show, I was starting to think I'd missed it.I'm still trying to decide if I actually liked the show or not. Though I did get a charge out of watching her wipe the floor with some jerk, and the scene where she goes flying through the air while attached to a rope after jumping off a roof... man that made my stomach twist and roll.

Ahh well, already after o-dark-thirty here..(that's 1230am for you non-military types..hee hee)and time for this chicky to get her buns in the bed. All the talk of people and their colds has started to make me feel like I'm coming down with something now. Nighterz all :)
Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Thursday, October 5, 2000 03:32:48 AM
IP: ac9b6bf4.ipt.aol.com

Geez, I have over half of the CR to catch up on. Ugly. At least my work is down to lower levels now, and I made my frist circuits on a protoboard. It's rather ugly with many confusing wires, though the XiLinx diagrams and simulations are nice and purdy.

We had a nice sudden storm today that caught me without my umbrella at food. However, I decided I didn't care, but my glasses under my shirt, and walked slowly off, occasionally yelling at the elements. I think it was missing something that I couldn't see the lightning bolts or any raindrops.

Read Pendragon. Once again, CSH has done an excellent job of entertaining me. Congratulations.

Nadia> May you feel as loved as you are.
<<Does anyone know why when you take an apparently liquid bottle of pop out of a really cold fridge, sometimes it freezes after it is opened?>>: Pressure. When the cap is on, the pressure there (necessary to keep the CO2 dissolved) also forces the freezing point of water down. This is because water needs to crystalize and expand to freeze. Water is extremely freaky in this way. And because it is so freaky, we can live. I'm not sure if there is much that is freakier than water.
<<s this somehow related
to the fact that there is liquid water on Saturn's moon, Titan, even though it is so very far away from the heat of the sun?>>: I don't think so. I seem to remember that at least one of the gas giants puts out a lot of radiation, so that could do it. I can't see a lot of pressure on an outer moon. But remember, we can have any of them, but stay off Europa. (I wish I knew the correct quote)
<<continents on Venus? There are two, Ishtar and Aphrodite>>: I see Ishtar, but Aphrodite shouldn't really count. I mean they really are the same person.
<<"Mission to Mars" was wrong>>: But did you catch the binary at the end? I thought that was a nice touch

Niamhgold> <<it'll give me the non-roomie time I need>>: You should have gone to a state university. You'd be amazed at how Rutgers empties out over the weekend. It's nice not having to wade throught the crowd at the dining hall.
<<everyone else thinks they don't need to know about computers...sigh>>: Tell that to my brother. I think the believes computers to be the spawn of Satan. Or would that be the other way around for him?

Dame C> Oops, I just noticed your initials are currently DC. Quite dangerous I would think.
<<Joins in on the hug-a-thon>>: Can you feel the love in the room? I can. Feel the love, everybody.

Calíope> <<You've gone right back to baffling again hun!>>: Ahh, it''s good to be doing my job again. I am referring to a different set of Cids here (at least {Cid IV, Cid V, Cid VI, Cid VII} anyone, know about VIII? I haven't checked it out yet), that are from the Final Fantasy series. They are always some sort of techie, usually building airships. Cid V had a son named Mid.
<< you havent watched Ranma?>>: Nor have I, but I just picked up the Baka song. I wans't expecting a metal background. Quite odd.

Warpmind> <<isn't there *anyone* you can bribe?>>: If I knew who the HR director of Lucent was, maybe. And I'd need the money to bribe, of which I've blown a good bit on what will probably become known as G, or more accurately (here's hoping I compensated enough for a non-fixed width font):
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If my brother ever finishes the case.
But I also forgot to mention something else last time: I'm not getting any money from the state that they could discover an error on.
<<you've *not* corrupted me>>: Hence, why I reconsidered the Y chromosome after my initial pondering.
<<I just keep a lid on it most of the time>>: So does that mean I've torn the lid off the sucker?
Oh, and I realized I probably shouldn't post the song you sent me. The last line violates CR standards, and the rest essentially does if you already know the rhymed words.

Sev. Jr.> <<How cool would that be? We blow up the friggin' moon>>: Actually, It would be pretty bad. The moon's done some great stuff to make the planet habitable. Maybe if he woluld agree to sear off half a foot evenly.

Nadia> Congratulations this time.

Winterwolf> <<I need someone to do Monty Python skits with>>: I'm not that good. I really only know Grail, and it's been a while. I used to be quite good with the communistic peasant, but not any more. Though maybe we gould get Niamhgold to do Piglet or Winston. I'll fight you for Galahad. No, wait, I'd lose, how about a resistor reducing competition? Loser gets Lancelot.

Wilek> Wilek! Gunjack, you're next.
<<OOOhh, yeah...especially scary/creepy stuff>>: Let's see: Dylan, Joe Cocker, Lawrence Welk, Randy Newman, Warren Zevon. But anyway, I have some good stuff. O Fortuna is a big one, also Duel of the Fates, the into of Marche Slave might count, and I haven't gotten to Toccatta or Mars yet. I love a good minor key.
<<I tend to run on different schedules than the rest of the universe>>: An admirable characteristic.
<<Any thoughts on how to confine a hyperdimensional entity to three-dimensional space?>>: Build multidimensional walls to keep it in the same place in the other dimensions, leaving its only degree of freedom with us.
<<And where's the fun in that>>: It's the Firebird. A big winged thing that sets itself on fire. Quite fun to watch.
<<Try http://surf.to/fmc>>: Too late. Happen to know a place to get a glitch free version of the Boston Pops doing FFVII? Every single file I try has an error.
<<Curses are pathetic these days; entirely too dependent upon bodily processes>>: But what can we do about it?
<<YOU HAVE A REPLICATOR (however primitive) ON CAMPUS?>>: Multiple, if memory serves me. We are also about the biggest source of fiber optic cable from an educational instution. I think we have five drawing towers. I think it gets the school a good profit (especially with cheap student labor).
<<please feed the chibis>>: They've been largely incommunicado lately. Perhaps they have been off tortoring DC just for the heck of it.
<<I am so glad I'm a man>>: My Y chromosome is my best friend. And I don't care that it makes me more prone to recessive traits.
<<I'm like Twinkies; not particularly nutritious or even satisfying>>: And indestructable. Please pass the Wilek.
<<I seem to be in a Final Fantasy mood, just at the moment>>: I should hope so. Though my favorite activity is figuring out the jobs of characters based on V classifications.

Well, I think I'll pause here. It looks like I'm a bit past halfway (of the entire room), and I need sleep. At least my first class is 2:50. But first a have a few questions. Thirteen to be precise. The new mp3 follows slightly the attitude of Boo Time. As in, seemingly about a frightening subject, but with somewhat upbeat music. You can find Thirteen Questions by Seatrain in my directory. Oddly enough, my father seems to have good taste.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Thursday, October 5, 2000 02:23:43 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

** Niamhgold enters briefly, taking a hiatus from her abstraction... **

Huggles to Coyote ** Hugs ** Back in Feb. my dog died when my family was away and I was staying home caring for him...it's always hard to lose a pet...

More huggles (and more ellipses than should be in a post, I know...)

NIamhgold
Thursday, October 5, 2000 01:03:35 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

Goddamnit, this is what happens when you do thinks when you're tired.

Click NOW on my name for the link to RISING SUN: SMOKE AND MIRROS PT 2, now at the Gargoyle Fan Fiction Archive!!!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:54:53 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

SJ crept up behind my back. ;)

Abortion> Anti-abortion, but pro-birth control, that sounds like a very good stance. But then you get into the spliting-hairs thing. When exactly does life begin? How different is preventing a fetus from forming, from aborting one after it has formed? Both reach the same end: no baby. I'm pro-choice, but it's not with unrelenting resolve. It's not a simple issue.

<<<As for why I'm a Republican, this is like that question you asked last week or so. It's really too complicated a question to answer in a brief amount of time.>>>

I'm reminded of Ask Greg. ;)

I'm a bit more satisfied with your reasons for voting Bush now, though. Not as if my being satisfied should mean squat. It just began to seem like everyone's stand was "both suck, but I'm voting Bush." Why??? If it's a party platform difference, that boils things down a lot. It's very limiting, actually. Unless the Democratic candidate was just awesome, you'd probably vote Republican no matter what, right?

This is why the two-party system should go. It's so convenient, but at the same time, that seems to be its failing.
Entity
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:54:10 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

This is for a friend. And because this room is turning into a political discussion board (I know! I'm just as guilty!), and in my eyes, that equals BORING.

So, without further ado!

*****SHAMELESS PLUGG****

RISING SUN: SMOKE AND MIRRORS pt. 2

by Fred "Pistoff" Kerns

As the man wrote: "Episode 2, conclusion. Proteus begins to seriously screw around with Elisa and Goliath, and Vinnie and the gang stay on his trail to the very end."

Rated R for some naughty language! :)

***END SHAMELESS PLUGG. YOU MAY NOW RETURN TO THE GARGOYLE SAGA [AND POLITICAL COMMENTARY] COMMENT ROOM***
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:52:20 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Coyote> Aw, man, I'm sorry. I've had to put to sleep two dogs in my lifetime (well, not me, my parents). I'd grown up with both. Now the dog we have now is starting to show her age. I know that by the time I'm out of college she'll probably have to be put to sleep. I don't know if the separation college will bring will be good or bad.

Jannie> Gore just seemed more real than Bush. He has real plans for the government, which is what he should have. Bush wants to take extra money and give it back to the people. What's that accomplish for us? Then he goes on to criticize Gore for wanting to expand the government -- yeah, meaning more programs to help more people. Also, there's that little tidbit about most of the money going to the wealthiest 1% of Americans under Bush's plan, which he never responded to, even though Gore brought it up repeatedly.

Plus, Bush's "did you invent the calculator too?" joke was just horrible.

I will admit that Gore's plans are probably largely unrealistic. For instance, he mentioned wanting to focus on the national debt, yet his whole platform seems to be based on multi-billion dollar programs to utilize every last penny of the surplus. But at least he's trying. If a quarter of what he says he wants to do actually gets done, that'll probably be more productive than Bush's goals, which seem to revolve more around relaxin' 'round a picnic table, havin' a beer, just enjoin' the great nation of America and its people...
Entity
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:37:20 AM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

Abortion issues: I'd just like to clarify my stance--while I am pro-life, I'm one thousand percent behind birth control. I'm not one of those individuals who feels that birth control is something akin to abortion (and, unfortunately, I strongly disagree with certain religious stances that preach such a belief), and if there was an effective "Morning After Pill" that was safe, I would support it. My rationale--better that everyone practices safe sex and uses birth control, rather than even feel they need to have an abortion in the first place. Unfortunately, as statistics will show, a hell of a lot of people don't follow that p.o.v.
But Jackal brought up something that I found interesting. He feels that life begins when the heart starts to beat. I'm a little fuzzy on my biology (although I specialize in genetics ;), but if I'm not mistaken, a fetus' heart does beat while in the womb. So, the question I pose is this--are those who feel this way (Jackal), that life begins at heartbeat, opposed to partial birth abortions?

I sure hope this doesn't turn into a debate. So far everyone has remained remarkably civil about the beliefs of others.

Entity: It's really like I said with the debates--you're for who you're for, and the debate last night isn't going to really sway anyone one way or another. The number of actual "undecided" is really not *that* large. If you were for Bush, you most likely still support him strongly, same if you were leaning for Gore. I look in the papers today, and naturally both sides are claiming victory, with some sources saying that the overall consensus was that Gore won. But, I still say--this is really almost an effort in futility. Let's say Gore won the debate.....it's not an overwhelming feather in his cap. The numbers from the polls are virtually still the same, with Gore maybe leading by a few points. This is such a--dare I say it--downright crappy election, that people still don't really care that much. I didn't watch most of the debate. I couldn't, it bores me, and it's hard to watch those two try and be civil with each other. I really would like them to just actually show some testicular fortitude and *really* debate each other. Instead, both of them are just too afraid that they will say something that will be taken the wrong way, so they just softball each other. The effect, in my eyes--this election is just as boring as it ever was.

Also, let me be honest about something--I don't think either of these men is an idiot. I say disparaging remarks about Gore because I differ with him on a number of ideological issues, and because he's on the "side of the enemy" so to speak, but I don't really think bad about either man when it comes to their work. Both men have served the public, one as a v.p., the other as a Governor. When it comes to the work that they have done, I don't think either of them are idiots. However, I also conversely think that both men are crummy choices for the presidency, but at this point we're stuck.

As for why I'm a Republican, this is like that question you asked last week or so. It's really too complicated a question to answer in a brief amount of time. I'm probably more of a moderate, but ideologically there are just more issues that I agree with the Republicans on (abortion is just one of them). Those issues that I don't agree with them on, I just wind up having to accept as a compromise (which, frankly, I think might be the case for most people in this day and age--we go with the party which shares the majority of our views, and compromise the rest). I sure as hell am not a Republican for Bush. I dislike both candidates, but I'm voting Republican because that's just where my allegiances lie at this point in time.

Emambu: Nope, the Redskins are still not in my good graces. Yes, they pulled off a win this past Sunday, but it was a crappy win. They were ahead of the Bucs by 10 points, with only 2 minutes left in the game. Now, we have a relatively good defense, so we should have just held them and run off the clock. But, somehow, the morons decided that the game was over BEFORE it was over, so Tampa evens the score in under 2 minutes. The only reason we won in OT was because Deion Sanders actually made a good punt return.
I'm still mad at the Skins (and their owner, Dan "The Littlest Emperor" Snyder). We should be 5-0 at this point, but instead we're 3-2. I can stand losing to the Lions, but Dallas? That's almost an unpardonable sin.

Green Baron: Are you just now starting to watch Babylon 5? If so, you're in for a real treat. The first season is good, I think, but nothing like what is to come. As for characters, Londo and G'Kar are two of my absolute favorites. The way their relationship evolves over the course of the series is great. Garibaldi remains cool throughout the show, too. If you are a new viewer, you're gonna want to watch out for 2 characters as the season progresses: the Vorlon ambassador Kosh, and the Ranger, Marcus.

Spacebabie: I think X-Files has gone down too. Too many plotlines left dangling, and too much redundancy--how many times have we seen Mulder *almost* meet up with his long lost sister, only to discover it was really a ruse by the aliens / evil government agents / fill in bad guy of choice ? This next season, which could very well be the last, might be promising. Even though Duchovney isn't going to be in the show much (cause he's off pursuing that terribly scary movie career of his), adding Robert Patrick to the show could be cool. Gonna have to wait and see.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:32:41 AM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

Typo!!! "I feel the WAS directed at certain ppl... bla, bla..."
jackal
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:09:53 AM
IP: ac8c263d.ipt.aol.com

Thanks, Kitainia. I've never been related to Angel before..., not sure how I feel about that. But really..., what's the sense in reformation when ur doing 60 years?? ;o)

<<but I admire your honesty about the subject.>>
I've been around long enuf to know that means: You've pissed me off.
Sorry, man!

Who's screaming outside, god that's annoying!!! brb...

Anyway...
<<Glad to see you stop by (and pity that it's probably going to be a rare exception).>>
I feel that way directed at certain ppl, but I'm prolly wrong.

Parents- They suck. I wish I could trade my dad in for a better one. hehehe, my kids will prolly say the same about me!! :o)

Sucks- Mommy hasn't quit smoking yet.... :o(
jackal
Thursday, October 5, 2000 12:07:36 AM
IP: ac8c263d.ipt.aol.com

*Emambu zips in quickly, trampling over DC in the process*

Hey gang, I'm going to try and be brief because I'm in the middle of exams right now. You probably won't see for a week. Then again, that's not too long considering I usually only post once a week. :) On to individual replies...

Guandalug la'Fay: Yeah, you fay are all about fun aren't you? :) Actually I do have a question, and maybe you can help me out since you're a member of the third race. Is it fay or fae? Some people (including yourself) say fay, but I've also heard some type it as fae. Which one is correct? Or do they both mean the same thing, and the spelling difference is merely cultural (like color and colour).

Mary: Good luck with your SAT's, and your college applications too. I don't know how your parents are, but mine were merciless. During that stretch from October to December, all I heard was "are you doing your college applications?" Drove me nuts. Therefore, I'm come to hate the college application process and instantly feel sympathy for anyone going through it. *Emambu sees the part about watching Ranma 1/2* Good idea, would a local video store carry it? I'm not kidding when I say I'm not familiar with the show. I only know it because one of my high school friends was a huge fan of Ranma, so I vicariously (there's an SAT word for you) learned nits and pieces of it through him.

DPH: I'll send it to them this weekend. Also, I'm sorry to hear about your back problems, and the fact that the "idiot" is completely clueless about your pain. You know, my dad is a doctor and he back problems too. However, he takes some medication and it seems to dull the pain without making him unable to perform simple tasks. if you want I can find out what he uses (kind of like free medical advice). Just a thought though. One thing that I do know, is about twice a week he spends about an hour on his bed with a heater over his back (it relaxes the muscles). You might want to try that, although the "idiot" might not let you from the sound of things. Best of luck to you.

Gside: Like I said, I've never seen CHiPS so I don't know what Ponch's character is like. I've always been compared to a hybrid between Ralph Macchio (daniel-san) and Sonic the Hedgehog. When people are in need of a nickname, they just stare at my last name and a varient usually pops into their heads (Mambo, Malibu, Mango, etc.) Also, I didn't want to seem like I complaining about the T1 line. It's a heck of a lot faster then my AOL connection ever was. Lastly, you may have dirty mind but keep in mind you're also a male in college. I've only been at U Pitt. for about six weeks and I've already developed a dirty mind. :)

Winterwolf: Solos are a different story. One of the reasons I'm good in a choir is because I can blend well and stay in pitch. However, I've only done one solo before in my life and it was nerve racking to say the least. I sang the words to the "Omnia Sol Temperat" piece of Carmina Burana last spring in front of my parents, friends, alumni, etc. By myself, I counted at least two times where I went flat. Everyone said I did great (a few of my friends told me later on that they didn't expect me to sing that well) so maybe I'm just being hard on myself. However, it's a little different here. Some of these voices are trained and are absolutely incredible. STill, I'll try nonetheless. And you're encouraging words did not go unnoticed or unappreciated so I thank you again. About the chili, if you eat too much you can hallucinate. That's what I mean by spicy. :) *Sees that Winterwolf has a Dreamie look in his eyes* LoL! Again, no comment. :) Have fun at the wedding!

Traveler: *Emambu starts singing "We'll meet again. Don't know where, don't know when..."* Ok, that's enough. Welcome back. I don't remember you (not a shocker since I haven't been around for too long) but it's good to have you back regardless.

Firestorm: I understand now. Good luck with everything. I hope the dog gets a nice home, wherever it may be.

Mandolin: What the heck kind of corrupt, college do you go to? :) j/k. Glad to here your computer problems have been worked out though.

SOROW: Two years? Congratulations *hugs*. Sorry to hear about your current crisis at home. *hugs again* You will always have support here.

Daphne: Congratulations, I hope you get that wordsmith status soon. An editing job will certainly help (you even catch your own typos). Again, congratulations and best of luck to you!

Sabledrake: Great issue, overall. I enjoyed Warpmind's stories and the story "The Invited." The artwork was especially good too. The poems could have been better though, particularly the third one. :)

Revel: Happy belated birthday to your mother. My mom turns 51 this December, though she doesn't like it when I remind her. :)

Brooklyn: Hey, you're back! Where have you been? Are you still writing? Did you ever get my comments about your last part? Ok, I think that's enough questions for one post.

Katara: That's so cool! Congratulations! Let us know how the move goes.

Warpmind: That article makes no sense. Harrassment is harrassment is harrassment. I just have a question though: How did Uhrich retaliate? Did he fire them?

Infinity: *hugs* I hope you feel better.

Caliope: Thanks. I had a math exam today, but I think I did well in it. I haven't seen that movie either. The only one I saw form Argentine was the one about a period in the time of the country where dissidents of the government seemed to disappear. I think it was called "Los desaparecidos." *sees part about Ranma* Two people telling me I need to watch it now? I guess I'd better locate some episodes. :)

Nadia: One of the reasons why I like this CR so much is the certain sense of companionship that comes through every now and again. Most (if not all) the people in here really do care. That's what makes one of the best places to let off steam.

Royal Conservatory of Music Grade 10 Piano? So, you're a pianist, and a very good one at that for passing. Congratulations!

SJ: I would definately pay money to see Bush and Gore go at it in a no holds, Dennis Miller-esque, verbal match. :) Also, now that Washington has beaten Tampa Bay are you going to root for your hometeam again?

Wilek: Thanks. No, it wasn't serious. It was about half an inch from becoming serious. Fortunately, everything healed nicely so all I have left is a thin scar and the memory of the incident. So, you spent all those days writing that post? Now THAT'S dedication! :) Also, I've never heard Liberi Fatali. What it about (aside from the obvious I mean)?

Kitainia: *Moment of silence for Charles* I'm sure he'll be watching over friends such as you and Doug like the dutiful guard that he was.

Just out of curiosity, where can I get that bumper sticker? I definately want to get it for my brother for Chirstmas. ;)

Green Baron: Glad you had a good weekend in Orlando. Also, I agree with you about the waste of time that are HS dances. I could have had a lot more fun going out with my friends.

Coyote: *Emambu tries to put a reassuring arm around Coyote* I understand exactly how you feel. It's always rough. Heck, I can still remember my old dog, Oliver. I'm eighteen and thirteen of those years were filled with that dog so it was a terrible heartbreak for me (and for my whole family) when he had to be put down. It still makes me misty thinking about him five years later. Just remember though, you did the right thing in ending its pain. In time, you will look back and you will remember all the good times you had, and dwell less on his death. Again, my condolences on your loss.

Fanfic Question: As some of you know, I've decided to try my hand at fanfiction (Thanks again, Doug, for the great feedback on my outline). However, I have one question concerning the Phoenix Gate (since it plays a minor role). I understand that the gate is a universal translator. My question though is: Say I'm an American in a spanish speaking country. The gate will automatically translate my english into spanish, and it will translate the spanish from the native speakers into english. However, let's say I told them I was an American and they asked me to say something in English. Would the Gate know to translate my words in English for them? My hypothosis would be "yes" since the Gate essentially let's you hear what you want to hear. Therefore, if you want to hear English, you will hear English. Am I right or am I missing something? I could really use some help here, thanks.

*looks back at post and sighs* So much for a brief post. :) Take care everyone (advance apology for typos),


---Emambu
Emambu - [emambu@commandchamber.net]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 11:53:27 PM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Warpmind > We're still looking for stuff for November and December for Sabledrake, absolutely!

Coyote > I'm sorry to hear of your loss ... that's never an easy thing. ::hug:: I still miss my good ol' dog Muffin, and she's been gone for over fifteen years now.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 11:51:01 PM
IP: 15-120.009.popsite.net

Coyote> awwwman! *hugs tight* I'm really sorry, friend. Being a dog lover and having an old dog, Dolly - I can really sympathize with you. It breaks my heart just thinking of the pain and loss that you are experiencing right now.

Entity> what about the debate that made you more pro-Gore and more anti-Bush?
Jannie
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 11:02:05 PM
IP: 64-240-37-219.hou.port.mytelco.com

**gives Coyote a big hug** hang in there. ^_^
jenna
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:21:34 PM
IP: 3cust76.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net

Hi all.. hi all.. hi all...

Sorry for not posting in a while.. lurking can be a hard habit to break.


Coyote:: My condolensces for your pet.



Now, from an unbiased standpoint (meaning your fave character doesn't automatically get the lead) for a Gargoyles version of Labyrinth would you have Puck for Jareth's role opposite Angela's Sarah? I'm wondering if I made the right choice here...




Shinigami
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:18:53 PM
IP: spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com

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Shinigami
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:14:49 PM
IP: spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com

Quickie post. I still have homework to do. Gaawd I hate college.

Winterwolf- Actually, I'm the inventor of that little riddle. Or at least the original version of it. Wrote it waaaay back, got it circulating online the first time I had a chance, and its been spread so far around since I don't think anyone knows where it came from anymore. Cept you now. Incidentally, Bob is the name of my dad.

Kit- My RP was an homage to an old Taxi bit between Jim Ignitowski and Alex Reiger, aka Christopher Lloyd and Judd Hirsh. In it, Jim is trying to get his driver's licence, but not being... Um... All that intelligent, he gets stuck on the question "WHat does a yellow light mean?" Alex gives him the answer, and so Jim repeats the question but slower, just as it went in my RP. In the actual recording they apparently did the bit like 7 times, but for the televised version they only did it 4 times for time constraints. I, as well as the audience, thought it was a hilarious bit. I still laugh hard every time I see it. I figured since my main character was named Jim and he was getting his driver's license... Maybe ya need to actually see the bit to get the full impact. I imagine it loses something without Lloyd's pronunciations and Hirsh's reactions to think of... *Shrugs* (Incidentally, Taxi is my all time favorite series with live actors.)

SJ- Don't worry about it. COnsidering I'm going at the rate of about 1 RP every two weeks it seems, nothing wrong in you not doing one.

Coyote- Condolances. I know how it feels to lose a pet. My hedgehog died just the other day.

In any event, I still have another couple hours of homework ahead of me. Ugg...

Robby
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:10:46 PM
IP: spider-mtc-tc023.proxy.aol.com

COYOTE - <Large Hugs> I know how you feel, bro... my thoughts and prayers are with you man...

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:10:09 PM
IP: 24129160hfc185.tampabay.rr.com

**A portal opens in the CR room and a chair with DPH sitting on is surrounded by a forcefield. The forcefield slowly lowers the chair to the floor and once the chair is on the floor, the forcefield disappears. DC and JRSU both spot DPH and quickly leave the CR room before DPH can spot them.**

**WARNING: INCOMING RANT**
Darn back pain. I am too young to have his back pain. Darn it, I want it to go away.
**END RANT**

**DPH looks around and joins in a group hug. Afterwards, he feels better.**

**POLITICS**
It is a choice of evils, IMHO. I am an extreme moderate, who believes in some government but considers both too small and too large of a government wrong. No candidate is speaking to my interests. If I am wrong, someone point it out to me so I know whom I should vote for.
**END POLITICS**

**MINIMUM WAGE**
I have one problem with raising minimum wage: Should you be paying some person to rake leaves for $8/hour? On the other hand, I think some companies are UNDERpaying employees. Where I work, they pay a T.O. (lowest management position) slightly less than $11.00 per hour after the person has been there for 2 years. No more pay raises after that unless you get a promotion.

**BFTS RP continues**
DPH looks at Frost and says, "Why didn't you warn about your mental blocker?"

**Speed Star HQ in the middle of a discussion**
"How do we deal with what happened to our members?" asked Alex.

Paula says, "Simple, we take our revenge when the house is vacated."

Fred replies, "Good idea. I will send a spy out to determine when they leave. After they leave, we demolish the house and wait for them to return."
**END BFTS RP for now**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:05:50 PM
IP: max1-40.cwy.cei.net

**enters and sits in the chair, looking very down**

Forgive me, I'm not very talkative tonight. This afternoon we took in our oldest dog to be put down.
**sigh** We'd had Stormy off and on for about ... about twelve or thirteen years, going waaay back to the last time we lived in Hawaii. He was such a loyal friend ... even when he got old and clumsy, he was still so loyal ... it was certainly his time, he had become nearly unable to *move,* and the poor thing was just suffering so ... I just know he's not any more, he's somewhere off in the afterlife looking for another coconut tree to knock over ...
**sighs, sobs, and looks at the ceiling** Farewell, old friend ... **puts his head in his arms on the Tea Table**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 09:37:41 PM
IP: 216.28.101.107

Kit> Well, this is the bad news. Tomorrow's football game is senior recognition and my parents have to escort me on the field. How am I suppose to do that when my mom hasn't even talked to me in two days?! And if she's nice, it'll probably be fake anyway.
SOROW
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 08:00:51 PM
IP: a010-0033.dll2.splitrock.net

ARIS - Ah, I recognized you by your IP (the abbreviations in it for "Athens" and "Greece" help there). Glad to see you stop by (and pity that it's probably going to be a rare exception).

Actually, that scene you conjured up is one which does strike me as true to the characters (even if I doubt that we'll be including it in future "Pendragon" stories) - and I would definitely not advise Emrys to open his eyes on just such an occasion, not given the fact that angering Mary isn't a very good idea. She can be a real spitfire when she wants to.

ANOTHER SIDE-NOTE ABOUT "ON HOLIDAY" - "CONTAINS SPOILERS"

I was initially a bit uncertain about the notion proposed for this story of Mary going feral; my reason for that was that at the time that we were doing Pendragon Breakdowns for this season, Oz was still a regular on "Buffy" (and I, at least, didn't even know then that he was going to get written out early in Season Four) and I wanted to keep Mary's werewolf status distinct from his (particularly in light of the fact that Mary was going to be keeping company with an adolescent magic-user of the opposite gender) so that she wouldn't seem like a simple "Oz-rip-off" (yes, it might sound silly, but we've got enough "Buffy" fans in the readership that it was a genuine concern for me). But fortunately it came out in the story as unique enough to allay my fears. (And it had the advantage of a parallel to Merlin's own madness in the Caledonian Forest over a thousand years before).

One other note: I mentioned earlier about Dorcas's name cropping up in the Bible (Acts, to be precise) - and the interesting part of it is that her alternate name as given in Acts was "Tabitha" - which was the name given to Dorcas's biological mother in "On Holiday". Which is all the odder since Spike indicated last time that I mentioned this that she got the name "Dorcas" from Dickens instead of from the Acts of the Apostles.

*POTENTIAL SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 06:48:14 PM
IP: 216.87.46.5.dialup-stl.primary.net

From a long period of lurking, I have returned. Not much has been going on for me, though I had a wonderful weekend in Orlando with Xena Trek and spent Sunday in St. Augustine with her and her friend ::kisses Xena Trek:: I am also hoping to visit her again in mid-November or early December, and I now know which times to use.

On with discussions

Doug> $Benny Hinn is a "Palestinian" Christian (in truth an Arab since the true Palestinians are Jewish) who'se family turned their backs on their Greek-Orthdox heriatge to become charismatic fundamentalists. I mean no great offense to those who practice such a beleife system, but I prefer a religion over a thousand years old to one not even two centuries old. He is also a televangelist on TBN who wears light-colored suits that remind me of crooked politcians, though he is mainly going to be used for humor, since I find him amusing rather than a threat.

Lady Arianna> WB ::big hugs:: I missed you.

Dame Corax> Such things happen. I'm glad you liked my robe pic.

Niamhgold and Mary Flanders> Gside may have a dirty mind, but wait until you spend a few minutes with my cat :)

DPH> Well, if I recall Winthrop Rockefelller was an excellent Governor and not just because he was the first Republcian Governor elected in Arkansas, but because of his support for civil rights and the undoing of all the damage done by a populist like Faubus(sp). Besides, there is a difference between a Governor and a Senator. An Executive is the CEO of the state and many company CEOs come in form outside to save a company having problems. I also beleive that Winthrop was a resident of the state before he thought about running for Governor. His son is also a moderate and I've heard nothing bad about him as Lt. Governor. A Senator represents her state and Hillary just moves in using a very prominent Senate seat as a springboard to become President so she can replace the stars and stripes with a hammer and sickle. NY already has an @$$hole for a US Senator named Schmuck "Putzhead" Schumer. Let's not add some commie b*tch who embraces the Arafats. Then again, she, Paul Wellstone, Tom Harkin, Barbara Mikulski, and Chris Dodd could form the Senate Communist Committee ;)

Sevarius Jr.> I've been watching Babylon 5 in order now and so far, my favorite characters are Londo, Garibaldi, and G'Kar. Who are yours?

Mandolin> I don't know what happened with Hood, but those cuts may eliminate their #1 status in US News and World Report.

SOROW> I wish I was here to say more. ::hugs:: I'm gald you're life has improved so much. I remember you back then, too.

Daphne> SATs are more important. I wish I never attended any of my dances in HS, especially Senior Prom.

Jackal> The morning after pill is talked about in case a woman is raped. I do prefer that method to abortion, especially if it only prevents conception. I may have a differnet than you do on abortion, but I admire your honesty about the subject.

The RU486 pill should cut into the fortunes of all the sleazy doctors who perform abortions. I have a higher opinion of personal injury attorney and drug dealers than I do of them.

<<On the plus side, after hearing it out of this class, the mother, now, wants to totally quit smoking. Let's hope she can. >>

I am very happy to hear that, too.

RU486> Even though Clinton and Gore were both pro-life until 1992, under their administration, they have actively pursued a pro-choice agenda, and whethere you agree with that or not, they've been trying to get RU486 passed for some time. With the laws as they are, I see no legitimate reaosn to block it, no matter my won feelings on the subject. If it cuts into the personal profits of abortion doctors, that would be good IMO. Among some things done by Clinton's administration regarding abortion, this is not as bad as all the force Reno has used to put every group opposed to abortion on soem watch list. I guess they assume nuns will use exploding rosaries when they pray outside a clinic. Then again, Janet Reno is just a power hungry thug that has made the ATF a far more dangerous agency than the CIA ever was. Maybe she uses so much force, becuase of all her testosterone :)

Nadia> Rant away, friend. I'm gald you got your position in the Royal Conservatory

Sevarius Jr.> I happen to agree with you about RU486, though so far our only arguments against are moral. This issue is not finished. I imagien side effects amy occur. There have been some studies linking abortion to breast cancer. I recall that the pill cuts off a baby's food supply and starves him or her. That sounds much more inhumane than even the partial-birth method. Of course, I doubt the FDA will menmtion that part.

Marilyn Manson may also vote for Bush, because he wants less taxes :)

Wilek> I saw Poltergeist.

I'm off to Business law. Bye bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 05:59:17 PM
IP: 141.164.133.108

Don't ask me, but this is just about all in response to SJ's latest post.

Presidential Debates> I missed last night's because of work, but would've watched it if I could, actually. I did catch the beginning and end in Government class today. My opinion? Whereas before I was merely anti-Bush, I'm now becoming more and more pro-Gore (in addition to more anti-Bush). So the hell what if Gore acts like a politician? He is a politician. Bush is an idiot pretending to be a politician. He could be the next Earnest Angley (sp) but not the President.

<<<C'mon....wouldn't you love it if both candidates just
dropped all pretenses and just openly insulted each other? It'd be refreshing.>>>

Considering how overly-civil last night's debate was, I think it'd be a welcome refresher. And hey, this year's already been about new precedents in debate format, right? ;)

James Cameron> I'm starting to dislike the man. Ever since Titanic he's gone downhill on my respecto-meter. Which is a shame, because his pre-Titanic work is awesome. You can't deny that. Anyone see the Director's Cuts of Aliens and T2? They're Godly.

Gundam Wing> Thanx for the info people in here have been dishing up. Very appreciated.

Question for SJ> Are you voting Republican because of Bush or because of your stance on abortion? Just curious.
Entity
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 05:49:50 PM
IP: nic-30-c5-215.mw.mediaone.net

**Buffy Spoiler** Someone mentioned that Harmony deliberatly had her minions get her a unicorn rocking horse from magic shop. Boy that sure backfired. Her head minion killed by it. Well better him then her. He was planning to kill her after Buffy was dead cha know **End Spoiler**
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 03:12:59 PM
IP: dt016ne4.san.rr.com

Well the weather is cooler, and wetter. It wast really raining, in fact it wasnt even drizzling more like misting, yet people still were using their umbrellas.

Also today on Campus there was a bible thumper. I got away from that nut real fast.

Monday,,,ok my dog Frisky after he drinks he dribbles from his mouth. I didnt see the dribble and slipped on it. Mr right knee banged on the floor and know there is a knot and its all bruised.

Gundam Wing>>>I went throguh my X-file books and in the episodes of "KillSwitch" Ted Cole((Wufei)) Was listed as Paramedic number 2 and the "Pinbluff Variant" Brian Drummond((Zechs)) was listed as first teller. Wow, I have to say they are easy on the eyes.This was due to the fact that they do all lot of Dubbing in Vancouver, Is it me or has the files gone down since it moved to La.

*********Spoilers For Buffy, Angel, and Pendragon***********

Pendragon love the outcome, Good developments on Dorcas. My favorite ws bettween Caspian and Rosalynn. Great banter between Merlin and Mary

Buffy, Did anyone else catch the Empire Strikes back reference in the beggining> Love Giles's new car and New job. Dawn, She has the Chibi Moon atmoshpere around her, of course its cute that she has this big time crush on Xander
Harmony, great for some laughs. I hope she doesnt get staked soon, unless its by Xander or Spike

Angel--Lack of Gunn but nice to see another piece from angel's past, Loved his 1950's look
**********************End Spoilers**************************

James MyegoisbiggerthanTexas Cameron. I hope he does get sent to the moon. i rrefuse to see his "Dark Angel" Even if the One and Only Angel was on a different night.

Anime- Finished the first season of MKR, and I just started to get into Fushigi Yugi

Spacebabie - [<---Look at me ]
Orlando, Florida
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 03:05:32 PM
IP: user-37kap2n.dialup.mindspring.com

Todd> About clothes transforming - I always felt it as a bit of a prudity cop-out - a small bit of needless unrealisticness just to escape even the mention of nudity...

Yeah, I know there's the precedent with the werepanthers - but I didn't like it much there either. It's a very minor nitpick, but I quite prefer the "Eye of the Beholder" version where only the body transforms...

In Pendragon's case this bit of modesty probably made you lose quite a few possibilities for minor jokes and the like... - imagine for example Mary and Emrys trapped somewhere when the sun goes down - "Don't you *dare* open your eyes!" "I won't, I won't!" :-)
That I almost never post
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 02:07:50 PM
IP: athe530-o078.otenet.gr

*Warpmind enters grumpily.*
Well, it's done. I've filled in the registration form. But really, why the <Übercensored> is the only online payment method PayPal? Sure, Paypal seems good, PayPal seems fine, BUT IT WON'T ACCEPT OTHER COUNTRIES THAN THE US OF A!!! *Breathes deeply.* There, I got that off my chest. But seriously, I figure another online payment system as a contingency plan would be wise... now I'll have to use an international money order thingie, and the friggin' Post Orifice charges about 15$ just for the job. :( It's SO unfair... :(

Oh, well, on to replies...

Nadia: Congrats! So... Royal Conservatory, you say? Does that mean they've got mummies of the great composers, or something? ;)

This RU-486 debate... unless I get my medical facts wrong, we just got the same stuff available in Norway. Actually, I figure it to be for the better... at least the way it's marketed here: as *contingency* prevention. Which means, if all the regular, uh, tools fail, there's always Plan B. It is NOT marketed as a means of abortion, but rather as an emergency utility in case for instance the condom should break at a... critical moment. While I am personally pro-life, to some extent, I approve of such morning-thereafter prevention pills.

Spike: Both art and story was, as usual, great. :) I must say, I too have been wondering how those little dragon statuettes got started in the first place... ;)

Winterwolf: Hey, when I'm going to LA come June, I might land in NY first (no non-stop flight available, methinks), so... maybe a guided tour could be arranged? (And if you're going, we could take the same flight on to LA later?) :)

Christine: Sabledrake looks good - the collection title for those CoC investigations I wrote was AWESOME! I would never have thought of that, myself... (By the way, got the e-mail?) Oh, and one more thing... I'm considering assembling a top-ten-type list of what the minions of various evil overlords would be likely to say, when engaged in some sort of conversation with each other. Any chance of it reaching the 'zine before shutdown? (Like in the November or December issue?) :)

Jackal: I see we're on different sides in this RU-486 debate... still, as I said, I see it as an excellent contingency plan should other forms of protection have failed.

Wilek: LTNS! What took you so long, amigo? :) Oh, and I am aware of the irony... a pity, but my Barbarian is WAY better... NEVER think "outnumbered". Think "target rich environment". ]:) As for your AWOL tentacles... considered activating a pandimensional transenergic amorphous barrier matrix, controlled by either the AI-523 or AS-117 neural-net chip? Should work; hooked up to one a canister of compressed sanity, I'd say the tentacles would be chanceless... ;) And what you said about English classes... sounds eerily familiar - same thing with Norwegian classes in Norway, except you're luckier - we got TWO written forms of the language; 90% of the population are technically incapable of making comprehensible statements and stating gramatically correct opinions in the secondary written form... heck, most of the population have a better grasp of a second and third LANGUAGE than of the secondary written form of Norwegian... Where's that sanity extractor, anyway? :( (On the subject - a language prof. here has estimated that within 100 years, Norwegian in written form will be pretty much a thing of the past - English is likely to take over; its use is already widespread through educational facilities, businesses, et cetera, et cetera... so this, too, shall pass...)

Kit: Such a meeting would undoubtedly be memorable. :) You don't know if there's a solar eclipse or something scheduled for that weekend, eh? ;) (If not, I might be able to arrange something with my associates... fnord.)

Buffy stuff: I don't watch the show (primarily because it's not on either of the 20 channels I have access to, boo hoo), but I see this issue of something suspicious about a character called Tara... tell me, is Tara by any chance a female of Irish origin? If so, looking up Tea Mur might be revealing...

Well, that's it... see ya later. Some of you when we converge upon Los Angeles, Fornicalia... ;)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 01:21:35 PM
IP: mp-217-216-114.daxnet.no

Thanks for all your lovely comments. I really wanted to do "On Holiday" because it concludes my Calendonian storyline that I began in "Into The Woods."

Kitaina>> Lack of reactions: Well, if you think about it, Mary's been prepared to meet to the gargoyles for some time now, thanks to Arthur and Merlin. The reason that she doesn't react to them coming out of their stone sleep is easy -- Mary's busy transforming from wolf to girl at the same time. I figure it takes a minute or two to re-orient yourself at time like that.
As for Douglas Campbell, that's even easier. He's a level-headed fellow who's used to coping with things on his own terms. He's been aware that 'something' has been living in the woods for some time so he's prepared in his mind that 'something' is there. *laughs* Given a choice between Feldman and Ratcliffe who he knows will kill him and the gargoyles whose first act towards him is to rescue him -- well, his actions show that Doug's no dummy.
It's going to be interesting to see how he copes with the Calendonian Clan in the furure. I don't see any of them going out of their way to be chummy with humans. It's more likely some of the transplanted Londoners (Reg, Pip, Remus) might be the ones that Quade sends out "t'talk wi' that bloody human."

Length of story>> Oh, I know it ended a little too soon... I could have easily written more but it was pushing 100 pages as it was and people were getting nervous as to whether or not I'd actually finish the thing. I was starting to call it "the TGS story that would not end...."

As promised, here's the pencil roughs for the story illustrations that I didn't get to do with some notes on each one.


Spike
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 10:31:36 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-40.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

* A FEW "BEHIND-THE-SCENES" COMMENTS ON "ON HOLIDAY" - MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS *

Re Mary's clothes: my attitude on this one was always that they changed with her (and had even done my best to show it in transformation scenes that I wrote, although some of these scenes are in episodes that haven't yet been released this season). There's precedent for it in the case of the werepanthers, and also it makes things easier on Standards & Practices.

The bit about Merlin having a wolf as a companion in the Caledonian Forest during his period of madness, by the way, isn't something that TGS made up; it shows up in the actual legends about Merlin and the Caledonian Forest - which, by the way, is the earliest part of the Merlin legends; the stories connecting him with King Arthur came along later on. I suggested that bit during Breakdowns since it fitted in so beautifully with Merlin and Mary's talk that it just had to be in there.

* "BEHIND-THE-SCENES COMMENTS" END *

*"BUFFY AND ANGEL" SPOILERS"

BUFFY: So now we get our full look at Dawn, and so far, she's a nice addition. It was a lot of fun hearing her comments on the cast (incidentally, her remarks on Willow and Tara indicate that Buffy's mother knows what sort of relationship those two have, or at least suspects it). And it definitely will be a lot of fun seeing her crush on Xander develop in future episodes - I'm especially looking forward to seeing what Anya has to say about that; she strikes me as definitely the jealous sort. (I also got a chuckle out of the Hogwarts mention).

And it was also very funny seeing Harmony's stab at master-villainy (and just like her to delight in the fact that her "minions" would remember, while robbing the magic shop, to pick up a unicorn statuette for her).

ANGEL: A lot of good comments have been given on this one here, so I'll focus on one element that nobody's brought up; the fact that the 50's flashbacks did a nice job of relating the paranoia theme of the story to the historical background (the mentions of Red scares, the McCarthy hearings on television, and the racial issue, particularly showing up in Judy's "mixed-race" background). I agree that it did an effective look at Angel both now and forty years ago. (And I was very amused at Wesley being labeled a paranoid and protesting about it, particularly where he says, "Nobody's ever called me a paranoid - unless they've been saying it about me behind my back.") On the whole, a good job.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 07:08:41 AM
IP: 216.87.46.198.dialup-stl.primary.net

Begin Part 2!!!

Nadia: We never truly know how much we love someone till we're apart from them, do we? <sighs> Good to see you learning that lesson. Hope it benefits you and your mom much. Also hope your headaches soon cease, and so do the hassles in your life. Good luck getting back up to speed with your classes, congrats on passing that recent test. As for the assault, well, my best advice to you on that is to first accept that it happened, then get over it and take precautions so it doesn't happen again. Kickboxing classes, tae bo, and carrying a taser work for me. :) I'm sorry it happened, of course, and especially sorry that it makes you feel as pained as you do. <sigh> Please remember that you are beautiful, and that it is a good thing, not a bad, even if some people make you feel like it's a bad one now and then. I too have suffered the curse of beauty viewed wrongly at times- fortunately none of the men who put it on me are in my life anymore, and most are dead or in prison. Hope it will soon be likewise for the man or men who did this terrible thing to you. Like I said, the best thing to do is to accept that it happened and get over it, then take precautions to ensure it doesn't happen again. Remember that you are strong, no matter what happens to you, that in fact the people who assaulted you are the weak ones who were dominated by their need. Do things that will help you to trust and believe in that strength. That's the advice I've gotten from all my professors on counseling rape and assault victims, it should work for you. If it doesn't, well, let me know and we'll try something else. :) No matter what, remember you have friends.

**BUFFY, ANGEL SPOILERS**
Good episodes of both these shows tonight, liked the acting in them particularly. Michelle Trachtenberg (sp?) was great as Dawn, and I really enjoyed SMG's banter and dialogue with her. They made great foils for one another. :) Liked Dawn's diary bits especially. She may not belong in the Buffyverse, but she can stay there as long as she wants as far as I'm concerned. <grin> Also liked the development on Joyce, and on Giles. Dawn's banter with him was also great. Good to see her interaction with Willow and Tara too, and I liked the development on them as well (though I too liked Willow and Oz a lot more). Strange scene with them hugging, though- I wonder what Tara's deep dark secret is. The episode had a real nice chilling and comedic plot, liked everyone's reactions to the death of the magic shop owner and what followed. Great to see Harmony again too, she made a surprisingly entertaining villainess. The personalities of the minion vamps were good too, especially for laughs. L. Dawn's crush on Xander was hilarious too, and very entertaining in the interior monologues that resulted. She's definitely got Xander and Anya pegged attitude-wise. :) The Riley development was good too, especially in the scene where he and Buffy argue about Dawn and her attitude (which I liked a lot). Great fight scenes with Harmony and the vamps as well, Dawn's personality made for some good jokes in them. :) Would have liked to have seen more of Spike, but what we got was pretty good too. Especially enjoyed his dialogue with Harmony. Dawn's was nice too. The ending was nice, even if it didn't seem to resolve much (shouldn't be doing that this soon in the season anyway. <shrugs>). Looking forward to next week's ep- can't get enough of one Xander so two should be great. :) Also looking forward to the development on the other characters next week of course. :)

Enjoyed the Angel episode a lot too, they did a really good job blending past and present events into a tapestry of intriguing developments in both character and plot. Liked the acting from Boreanz very much, as SJ did, and the development on Angel was excellently written and played out. It was great seeing him as with a soul and yet not entirely a good guy. :) Enjoyed the developments on Cordelia and Wesley also, though I was glad to see them take a bit of a backseat in this one. I'm sure it will be different in future eps, and that'll be good too. :) Seeing them researching the hotel together made for many good character bits, and a good counterpoint to the events we saw developing in Angel's past. Especially enjoyed the job they did on setting in this one- the hotel was really made out to be a frightening and yet quite intriguing place. And one full of ghosts and memories in the present. The demon inhabiting the place was particularly chilling in both personality and appearance. Its relationship with Angel was well-developed, as was his with Judy and the other people in the hotel- really liked the fight scenes. I was shocked at first when Angel gave everyone up to the demon, but it was nice to see the memory of that causing him so much stress in the present he actually smoked. :) Great imagery all throughout. Liked the character development on the hotel guests too, Whedon did a good job of making some of them really seem like the type who deserved to have the demon take their souls. And make others not seem like it. :) Yet they all had to be condemned. <sigh> It was really nice seeing the demon get fried at the end, and I also enjoyed the emotional development and resolution that followed. About the only thing in this ep I didn't enjoy was the lack of attention paid to Gunn, he's still getting the short end as a new main character somewhat. Hopefully that will change in next week's episode, to which I am looking forward. Should be good development on Cordy in there no matter what, and nice bits with Angel and Darla. And of course I'm looking forward to watching Angel and co. get used to their new base. 9/10 stars on both eps.
**SPOILERS OVER**

SJ: Good to hear we're gonna be having James Cameron kicked off the planet soon. I too have not enjoyed his work for the most part, though Terminator 1 was great and Titanic did have its moments. <shrugs> Good words on RU-486 too, I agree with you on it and personally wish it had not been approved. <sighs> Oh well, we do have to solve the world population crisis somehow, don't we? Just wish we didn't have to stoop to such a low level in our treatment of children to do it. :( And, btw, I am pretty pro-choice myself, so you know this view isn't completely biased. <growl> Good comments on the presidential debate too, I wouldn't mind seeing the moon blown up. Just hope more people, including some women, would get to walk on it first. :) Sorry to hear you've been sick with the flu, hope you're over it by now or will be soon if you aren't.

Spike: Thanks for posting those character sketches, they were quite nice to look at. Especially the Remus and Dorcas one. Looking forward to seeing the illustrations soon. And thanks for the good job you did on the latest TGS episodes too, even with the overstuffing of development in Part 2 it was still great. :)

Jackal: Good points about the accursed Morning After Pill from you as well. Thanks for making them. Hopefully it will only be widely used by women who don't deserve to have kids anyway for whatever reason. <fingers crossed> That would definitely make this world a much better place for a lot of people. <sigh> I also of course agree with you about the beginning of life and children.

Wilek: Good length to your latest post. Now if we can only get you back into the RP…:) Doug and I are also very glad to have the psychopaths out of our lives, for now at least. We'll be killing them off in the RP real soon, just for the hell of it. <grin> As for attracting weird-in-an-incredibly-cool-way people into our lives, we don't know how we do it. It just happens. And frequently too. <shrugs> We enjoy making friends with the people like this whom we have met, not sure if we'd ever actively seek them out. Sometimes it ain't good to press your luck too much, know what I'm saying? :) Of course, not everything about Shauna is cool- I have never met a bigger nag in my life. <shakes head> Yet she still remains a wonderful best female friend. <grins>

That's all for tonight. Good luck to all of you, hope the hassles in our lives soon stop or at least ease up. Thanks again to all who gave Officer Charles, or LC as his friends called him, their prayers. Doug and I know we're not the only ones who will be missing him very much. <sighs> See you all next week, or maybe later this one if I get the time. Till then farewell!

**RESUME RP- RAVENS' SAGA**

The screen comes on again, displaying the Onslaught rolling into the parking lot of the Mall of America in Minneapolis and coming to a stop. Someone sitting nearby in a white GMC Sierra pickup takes note of it and picks up his cell phone, watching as the Ravens get out, nod at each other, and then start walking towards the mall entrance. Inside the mall at the food court, Shap and Shauna are sitting at a table eating pizza and waiting for their friends. "I really think we should have told Doug and Kit about those demons and their plans," Shauna says to Shap, who sighs and shakes his head. "Why not?" Shauna asks him. "Come on, Shap, I told you what I heard they were planning. You saw how many of them there were. Don't you at least think we should have warned Doug and Kit and the others by now? We were followed here, for crying out loud! The guys are sitting right down there!" She waves at a table further down the aisle, at which Holder is sitting with Gus, Sternie, and Lorna, watching them and yet trying and failing to be unobtrusive. "I know they're there," Shap tells Shauna. "I think they know we know too. I trust you, Shauna, don't worry about that. It's just…" He sighs. "Call me overconfident, but I think we can handle whatever Galante and Jerry and all these other demons got planned for us even if you and me are the only ones with a heads-up. We've taken on everything from street punks to the Borg to demons before, we can handle whatever this is. Besides, I don't want to worry Doug and Kit too much more- they got enough on their case with what happened with the Avatar on the way here, those bombers, the Clark Mountain Pass, you get the idea." "Yeah," Shauna sighs. "Still we really ought to tell them." "Maybe we can do it now," Shap shrugs, pointing to a large group of people approaching their table and drawing stares and weird looks from many of the mall's customers. "Here they come." Shauna nods and stands up to wave at Doug, Kit, and the others as they get closer. Holder sees them too and grips his stick tightly with a growl as he reaches for his cell phone. Gus, Lorna, and Sternie are nearly jumping out of their seats as they glare daggers at Kit, who notices and frowns. Outside, a large number of vehicles emblazoned with Peeing Calvin and other obscene stickers, full of gang members, demons, and other assorted unsavory characters, are beginning to surround the perimeter of the mall.

"That took a long time," the Brain is saying to Asil elsewhere as she hops back into their stolen limosuine after escaping the Atlanta stadium. "Was it really necessary for you to go in there?" "Sometimes justice has to be done," Kit's evil clone replies with a chuckle. "And it was here." "Alright," Brain shrugs. "Bet you did it well too! Narf!" cheers Pinky. "We better get out of here," Asil tells Brain, ignoring the other mouse. "The police are here already, and many witnesses saw me in there. If anyone saw me getting into this limo…" Brain nods and immediately pulls out, mingling with another group of drivers who are also doing so. Asil nods in thanks and leans back in her seat. "We're going to the hotel where Admiral Nipon and Guod are waiting," Brain tells her. "Should be there soon." "They'll probably be happy to see you," Pinky adds. "Troz!" "It'll be good to see them too," says Asil. "How did you two hook up with them anyway?" "It's a long story," says Pinky. "Brain intercepted an attempt by Guod to get into Ted Turner's computers, and since we both want to stop him from taking over the world…" "We joined together," Brain finishes. "Hopefully soon we'll all be able to sit down and plan a way to stop him." "Yes," Asil agrees with a sullen grimace. "Hopefully." Above them, a Time-Warner helicopter continues to unobtrusively keep pace with the limo. Sitting beside the pilot, Geoffrey Fieger is yelling into a cell phone at Jamie Kellner. "I've got the car they stole below me, I'm trailing it! Should find their lair real soon. Get some people briefed and ready to come meet me there- some who don't have anything better to do right now and have diverse talents." "I know just the ones," Kellner replies from his office. "I'll brief them. Call me back when you know where the hideout is." He hangs up and then presses the intercom. "Marcia, get me the character cast of Captain Planet. Send them into my office, pronto." "Yes sir," his secretary replies, and the screen's image fades.

** END RP AND POST**
Kitainia
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 03:44:18 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.187.dlls.grid.net

**RP HERE**

"So then I managed to get off a teleport spell while they were all concentrating on my golem," Jazeem is saying to Abdullah as the screen comes on. "I had to get out of there, you see. The dragon was waking up. Please don't hurt me more for this, okay? Failure was unavoidable. The knife wound to my back has already caused enough pain, my healing spell didn't stop it all." Abdullah smiles, then looks at Tariq, who sighs and shakes his head. "I can not believe I once feared you, Jazeem," he says. "Now I know you don't even know how to formulate a good offensive. You're nothing but an egotistical prick who thinks his magic is unbeatable. Up until now, you have been right in the assumption. But now…" He shakes his head as Jazeem shoots him a glare. "I didn't think there would be a dragon there!" the sorcerer protests. "I assumed it would stay in the Underground City, I…" "Enough!" Abdullah interrupts. "Why didn't you call your genie? You can do that with a command!" "Dao is no longer on this plane," Jazeem sighs. "Someone must have destroyed his lamp. I sensed it happening. My magic is now the only asset I have left." "I see," Abdullah frowns. "That probably means Yevi is dead too. Wonderful." "Sir," Tariq asks, "what do we do now? Your family are proving more formidable than we imagined." "Don't worry about them," Abdullah waves off his concern. "I have another secret weapon in reserve. The plans will have to be changed now, in a small way, but other than that we have suffered no damage. Jazeem, I suggest you go and practice your magic. Create another golem if you can, summon a few demons, whatever. Just get the appropriate assets to try taking Fasil and his family prisoner again, and this time succeed. I have a special death in mind for them, I do not want to see that plan impinged again." "Yes sir," Jazeem grimaces, then stands up and walks off. "What is this secret weapon?" Tariq turns to Abdullah and asks. "You will see," the terrorist kingpin replies sullenly, then presses his intercom. "You may come in now, Khensu." The door to the office opens and Harthoth walks in, followed by the masked hacker Tyl, who walks over to stand at Abdullah's side. "I hope you have good news for me," Harthoth declares, walking up to the desk. "You're lucky I have been this patient. Had it been my partner you were dealing with and not me, you would have been dead by now. But she has business in England." Abdullah shrugs, then smiles. "Be not concerned, my friend. I do have good news. Tyler has finished the program and it has been uploaded. Your master's new body is ready for him to come in." Harthoth reacts to this with only an upraised eyebrow. "I require a demonstration of what the body you have built can do." "You shall have one," Abdullah says, rising to his feet. "Come." Harthoth nods and then follows him out of the office, Tariq and Tyl just behind.

The display changes to the Underground City's mines, where Gubio, Erin, Mist, Terrell, Annabelle, Bessus, and Vincent are all looking around for the source of the great noise approaching them. Then they spot it- a huge drill coming through the wall nearby. "Scatter!" Terrell shouts unnecessarily, and the group does so, Vincent and Annabelle rushing for a large rock formation with Bessus covering them as the machine behind the drill comes out of the wall. Gubio, Mist, Erin, and Terrell spread out and fire at it, their shots bouncing off its sides. "How lucky that I found this machine just sitting there in the tunnel waiting to be used!" Kovu laughs from the Plexiglass-enclosed cockpit as he turns the drill towards them. "Now you humans and human-lovers will die easily!" "Kovu!" Vincent shouts, looking up from behind the rock formation with anger on his face. "You traitorous scum!" "Vincent!" Kovu sneers. "How good to have all my enemies down here gathered in one place! This is a nice surprise! You too shall die!" "Unless we kill him first," Gubio comments to Terrell, who nods. "Looks like we have to," he says with a sigh, watching the drill as the laughing Kovu turns it around to aim at the rock formation behind which Vincent and the gasping Annabelle are crouched. "The fuel tanks of that machine are on the back. If someone distracts him while someone else shoots them…" "Got it," Erin nods, waving to Mist and Bessus. As they nod and raise their weapons, suddenly a pair of flashbang grenades go off near them, causing Mist and Terrell to both gasp and faint, their feline senses overloaded by the sound and light. "Die humans!" someone shouts, and Gubio, Erin, and Bessus hit the dirt as a burst of automatic laser fire goes off. Tiara, having now emerged from her cover, steps out and laughs. "I shall kill you or Kovu shall," she declares. "It makes no difference!" Erin looks at her as she reloads and advances, then looks at Gubio and Bessus. "I got this," she says. "But you're hurt," Gubio protests. She shakes her head. "Not that badly. Go stop that machine, Vincent and Annabelle are unarmed. Hurry!" The two men nod, then rush off. Erin meanwhile turns to glare at Tiara, while Vincent and Annabelle give each other worried looks as the laughing Kovu guns the motor of his drilling machine and starts heading right for them. And the screen goes blank.

**END FIRST BIT OF THIS POST'S RP**

Hi everyone. Hope things are going well with y'all. I've read in recent posts that a few of us are feeling down right now, and that worries me a bit. Hopefully things will soon change. :) <gives hugs to all who need them, grins> Doug and I have things going okay right now pretty much. School is keeping us busy with tests this week, I already had my first one today and more are ahead in the week for both me and Doug. We hope to do well in them, would appreciate your prayers.

We appreciate those of you who have been praying for Doug's friend Charles too, even if now any further prayers must be for his family and soul. <sighs> That's right, he passed away this morning. On Saturday we heard he was feeling alright, but then he got sick on duty again, so he went right back to the hospital the next day and for a while was in there recuperating from his illness. We were all hoping he'd get over it soon, but then this morning his wife called Abel and said Charles had coughed up a big amount of blood in his sleep and choked on it. So he is dead. <observes a long moment of silence> Thanks to all who gave their prayers, we too are sorry they didn't work as well as we'd hoped this time. At least God has a new angel. Doug and I will be attending Charles' funeral soon of course, and Doug is also wearing a black strip of tape over his badge in mourning. As are most of the other officers who work for his company. They probably will be doing so for a long time to come, and also be feeling the terrible loss of a truly dedicated worker and respectable man. <is silent again for a while, then tries to change the subject> On to comments and replies.

Todd, Spike: Thanks for the history behind Dorcas's name. I'm surprised it's a real one, but hey, it's not the only name that's beyond me. I'll never understand why people give their kids the names Mildred, Duane, or Lucifer either. And I've known people with all three. (The last guy went by his middle name, Bradley, all through high school, and changed his first name to that when he got out. Obvious reasons.) Again, Spike, I'm glad that Caspian isn't using magic on Rosalind. Glad you enjoyed My Side of the Mountain too. Thanks also for explaining where you got all the various characters' names. I did not find them too many to be introduced at once, though I can understand why others did. Read Part 2 and enjoyed it, comments below.

Christine: <shakes head at cop bit> Hopefully that won't happen, they better pay attention to the complaints. <sighs> I wish I could say I shared your mirth about Stephanie not reading DotE yet, but after all the flack she gave me about it, I just can't. <grimace> Oh well, she did finally start it today, so all has evened out. And I am nearly finished with the book myself, just began Part 3. Still really enjoying it, hope to continue. Also hope I will one day hear that radio ad you mentioned with Doug and me in it. Spooky that you heard it. <shrugs> Then again, maybe not that spooky. There was this one radio ad a while back that had a girl saying "Lisa just broke up with her boyfriend, who it's rumored is now going out with a nightmare girl who thinks she's all that." The girl sounded a lot like Stephanie, especially in terms of attitude- the comments she made almost mirrored a situation Steph and I went through in high school where she stole my boyfriend too. <shrugs> Surprising to say the least. LOL at your work stories relating to compassion- hey if that's the way you get the job done, more power to you! :) Bet you'd like the movie Girl Interrupted, you should see it if you haven't already for many entertaining scenes that will probably remind you a lot of your life. Thanks also for letting us know the October Sabledrake issue is up, I'll do my best to read it soon.

Winterwolf: Thanks for your suggestions on the book, I might go through with them. I'll have to get the time first though. Not yet sure when that will be. <sigh>

Lady Arianna of Annwn: I remember you, welcome back. Good to see you again. :) Glad to hear you're in college, hope it's going well. Congrats on making it in, and also glad that it's not taking up your time too much so far. Hope it's a long while before that changes. <grins> Good luck with all the assignments and trials that come your way, thanks for your wishes of the same to me and Doug with ours (and the hugs! :).

Warpmind: Congrats on the big money that recently came your way, glad you're putting it to a good cause. Doug and I hope to be able to attend the Gathering next year too, but we can't say right now if we will or not. Have to save up the money, and stabilize his work situation too. <sighs> Oh well, we have a lot of time before making the final decision. Hope to see you there if we end up coming. :) <fingers crossed>

Daphne: Glad you're handling the bad teacher situation well, and congrats on getting the other to raise your paper grade. I may have to try that with my teachers sometime. :) Congrats on the editorial position too, good luck with it. Like Kyryn's said, it's hard work, but it's well worth it in terms of experience. Continued good luck with your other hassles, hope they soon end. :)

Tim Phipps: Welcome back, been a while. Thanks for sharing all those news stories, they all were very odd. And yet strangely entertaining. :)

Jackal: Well, if support is what your friend needs and you can give it, please do. :) It's certainly working for Angel and Faith. Hope it also works here, good luck to your friend whatever she did. If you have faith in her, I'm sure she's a good person deep down and can be motivated to reform. I'll be praying about it. Good luck with your new baby too, glad that things are continuing to go well with him.

Niamhgold: Thanks for the compliments. :) Sorry to hear things are keeping you so busy lately, hope they soon ease up. Good luck with them, like I've been saying to everyone else. <grins> Hope things turn out right this time around on all counts. BTW, you mentioned you've done some non-Gargs work? I'd like to read it, if I may. Could I please have the link to where it is (if anywhere)? Comments will be sent in return after I have read it, of course.

Shinigami: His name is Steve Case, not Steven Chase. You're right about him doing all sorts of things worthy of maiming though. Same for AOHell. <grins> We'll be taking some sweet revenge on the guy sooner or later in the RP.

Kyryn: You and Shauna do indeed have many things in common. She also shoots the 30 lb. recurve bow, though not a pistol. She claims to be no good with one. I've never seen her use one though, so I'm not sure about her skill with it entirely. <shrugs> You're from the same area too- you're in Denton and her family's in the mean streets of Fort Worth. Many startling things. :) Don't feel too bad about the episode mistake Selanit caught, I'm sure you'll be watching for stuff like that next time and will catch it if it's there. <crosses fingers, grins>

Daniel Johnson: Thanks for your bit about depression, you're very right about it in what you said. Sorry to hear you went through a bout of depression recently, hope that you're out of it now and congrats if you are. Good luck getting out soon if you're still trapped within. Please let us here in the CR know if we can help with the feelings any, we'll be glad to do our best to give encouragement and advice. We are friends, after all. :) And welcome back.

Emmabu: Thanks again for your encouragement throughout the whole Gus and Lorna situations. Neither got as much time in jail as I would have liked, but they got enough. <shrugs> Glad to hear Doug and I aren't the only ones with guardian angels watching over us, we've had situations where they've shown up too. Not just on the road either. A new bumper sticker I recently added to my motorbike- Never Drive Faster Than Your Guardian Angel Can Fly.

Traveler: I know I didn't say this before, but thanks for your encouragement regarding the recent troubles Doug and I had. We too are glad they're over now. And don't worry, we are keeping an eye on Gus, Lorna, and Sternie even though they're in the slammer. One of the cops who helped us catch Gus and Sternie has promised to keep an eye on their case for us, and warn us if anything happens where they're gonna get out of prison before their time. He knows what they did, understands our worries, and is a good guy. :) Hope to see you back in here again soon, and that next time you will say the bit on dragons. Again. :) I must say I agree with you about the WWF too- I liked the old wrestlers they had a lot more than I do the new ones. <sigh>

Mandi: <shakes head> Somebody has got to knock some sense into the head people on your campus, I think. They've made serious mistakes, especially with InfoTrac and Mr. Duff. Hope they get their act straightened out soon, glad they got your e-mail fixed at least. If they don't stop creating problems soon, well, you won't be there much longer, right? Hope you can get out soon enough to escape all the really serious problems that may be on the way thanks to the admins' incompetence. :( And of course, that you don't get out before your life is stabilized enough to do so safely. Always have to be careful of that. <grin> Congrats on finally seeing Mononoke, glad you liked it a lot.

Dame Corax: Glad to know engineering is working out great for you as a major so far. Doug and I have a friend named Tom Miller who's good at it too, and is also having a lot of fun with his engineering classes here at UT after transferring from Rice. (Don't ask me why he got out of that top school for here. He claims it was the walls that drove him crazy too much his first year. Doug and I think it was grade troubles instead, but we haven't said anything. He's certainly making more than decent grades here. :) Here's to hoping you keep having exciting projects and opportunities to earn your classmates' envy and eventual respect. <clinks toast>

Robby: <finds DC and inflicts hours of extremely painful torture on him, then turns him over to a certain quick-footed bird she knows who is expert in causing painful deaths. The screams of the evil computer person split the CR's air for many hours on end.> There, that oughta settle for the revenge you could not give. :) Hope your life troubles ease up soon, especially the computer ones. And that you are soon able to think up better RPs. No offense, but the joke in that last one was incredibly lame. :(

SOROW: <shakes head> I hate it when parents take out their frustrations with each other on their kids too. <sigh> Hope your mom apologizes soon, and that she and your dad have a short argument. Living through parental fights is never fun. <hugs> Of course having your parents neglect you can be worse. Doug and I read in the paper this morning about a school where one student shot another and shortly after that many of the students' parents visited the school for the first time. <growls>

**PENDRAGON SPOILERS**
<sighs> I must say I enjoyed this ep, but I didn't like it as much as I did Part 1. Some bits just seemed too brief and cliched. Mary's reaction to meeting the gargoyles for one- she didn't really feel surprised about them. Yeah, that fits with her character, but with her disbelief in their existence earlier, I was expecting a bit more. Especially with the gargs making a lot of noise when they awoke shattering their stone skins and roaring and all. <shrugs> What we got was good, though. One thing I must ask- what happens to Mary's clothes when she transforms? Up until now I assumed she was changing out behind bushes and such whenever she transformed, but after the opening scene of this story I'm not sure. Haven't seen people's clothes disappearing or changing in Gargs before when they shapechange except in the case of fay, and Mary's not that, so I don't really know if I'd accept that explanation. Hope to get one I can soon. :) Liked the dialogue in this one pretty much, and the illustrations too. Enjoyed hearing more about the Caledonian Clan's battle with the Unseelie and the London Clan's as well. The dialogue between the Londoners and Caledonians was especially good, liked the scenes with Curran disciplining the beasts especially. :) Good bit about genetics too, and I enjoyed the development with Dorcas and the other characters. Was surprised to find out Remus was her father, but the relationship works and makes for an intriguing story too. Still hoping her shallow personality eventually improves, it did somewhat in this story, but not enough IMO. <sighs> Still not sure I like Dorcas that much. She is a nice character, though, with that blend of old and new gargoyle customs and attitudes in her opinions. :) Liked Kylie's development as well, good bits with her and Michael and also with Tiberius (the pic of them was great on emotion and colors, liked it a lot). Enjoyed the bits with Caspian and Rosalind as well, things are developing nicely with them. Nice mourning bits with Caspian, Kirstie, and Lance too. <sniffs> Loved the mourning poem. Also liked the development on Cervus, Reg, and the others- they had good emotional possibilities cropping up in this ep. Liked the dialogue related to them a lot. And I liked the development on Lucy, Dodger, and Prongs too. Nice to see that the latter's name really is a Harry Potter reference. :) Also enjoyed the bits relating to the World Gathering, Kylie and Arthur had good reactions to the idea of such a thing and development related to it. Good scenes with Doug Campbell, Feldman, and Ratcliffe also. They had nice interaction and I liked the fight scenes with the two villains and the good guys too, even if they did seem a bit cliched in execution and over too quickly. <grimace> Doug's introduction to gargoyles was a bit more detailed and believable than Mary's, good development with it also, but it still seemed cliched somewhat. <sigh> Mostly in that he seemed a bit too accepting right off of so many legends being real. Liked the development with Merlin and Mary a lot, I was laughing out loud at his bits concerning her even though they did seem a bit cliched and predictable now and then. Liked the bits with Merlin's past as well, they did a good job of fleshing out his character. Liked the end a lot too. Good to see the Caledonian Clan get a human ally, and I liked his reactions to dealing with them and theirs to dealing with him a lot. Good fate for Feldman and Ratcliffe too, though I can't help but worry that they'll show up to cause trouble again sometime in the future. The scene where a 'watching eye' was detected shielding their minds was pretty chilling, wonder how many other Illuminati members have that benefit and how they get it too. Good ending to the Remus and Dorcas situation, though I think the scene of them hugging could have used a pic. :) And I liked the synopsis bits at the very end too. Good to see all come full circle, even if several things in this story did seem to get resolved a bit too quickly. Overall, I give it a 9/10- I enjoyed it, but it seemed to wrap up too much too quickly most of the time. Hopefully that mistake will be corrected in stories ahead. :)
**THESE SPOILERS END, SO DOES PART 1 OF POST**
Kitainia - [DougElder21@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 03:43:52 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.187.dlls.grid.net

Doug> <<Good to see you posting again at the length you did.>> Thanks. ^_^ Now if I can get things to stay that way...<checks the tentacle traps> <<You know the scene in the Disney Robin Hood movie where he uses one arrow to knock another off course and direct it downwards to hit the bullseye and split a second down the middle? Shauna can do that too, though I've only seen it once. She puts her skill down to a hell of a lot of practice, deep patience, blind luck, and mega-math abilities which she uses to calculate all the various angles and trajectories in split seconds before she shoots (the latter she's also using in her chosen career- CPA).>> Oh mah gawds. 8O (Tell me. Do you and Kit actively seek out weird-in-an-incredibly-cool-way people like this, or do they just sort of end up being associated with you? :) ) Lorna in jail> YES! >:) Finally, this micro-brained sociopath is out of your hair...

Katara> <<Although, those that know me best would say I was already a taco short of a combination plate. :p>> In fact, that's a requirement for getting in here. ;)

Jaden> Welcome back! :D <<Well I'm back home for about 20 days before I head out to Korea (oh my God!)>> AAAGGGGHHH... O_O' Farewell, and I hope you're not there for long before returning here...

FS> <<Can anyone recommend a good prozy program?>> Try www.spaceproxy.com, although it tends to reduce connection efficiency, so I only use it for posting...<<There has been times that my 13gb HD (Well... my DEAD 13gb HD) had only 100mb left!>> :O OMG; I have a comparable one and the lowest I've been is 500MB...<counts blessings> <<Is Todd the lost forth Warner?>> Call him Toddy and you die. ;P <<But if ya really want to blind someone, use garlic.>> I suspected as much...<getting evil thoughts> <<And besides... who wants to write about graphic sex with DC?>> Madame Destine. :P <<The only version I found before was a REALLY *BAD* spoken one.>> Seen Antz? There's a great version there; too bad it's so short...<<Hell, post some Gregorian chant stuff>> OOOhh, yeah...especially scary/creepy stuff like...hm, don't know; already have Carmina Burana, The Omen, Phantasmagoria, Final Fantasy 7 and 8...does anyone know if FF9 will have any choral pieces? <<TELE-TUBBIES, BARNEY! They will do all sports, news, AND be the stars of EVERY SINGLE SHOW AND MOVIE MADE FROM HERE ON!">> [Wilek scratches his eyes out with a shard of glass.] <<My parents who have been married for 8 and 13 years are getting a divorce. Not too bad, I guess. Not totally unexpected, though. They are selling the house (too bad. It is a REAL beaut. And I would buy it... if I wasn't broke and couldn't afford the $1200 a month mortgage payments). I just hope they don't put the dog to sleep because they don't know what to do with her.>> Oh no! :( Hope at least you come through this alright (not to mention the dog)...<<I picked up The Sim's this weekend. Addictive little game, isn't it?>> It would be, if those ever-declining little meters didn't require constant attention... >:/ <<"Hey Vern, why do those electronics students keep taking cows?">> http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~benco/humor/WhiteOvercoatsCowChainsaw

Warpmind> <<However, if I were to gain control of a spell like the one Solarrin used prior to his death... ];)>> Sounds useful. Details? ^_^ <<Me, a Mentor? Hmmm... fun. :)>> Why is it that that particular sentiment terrifies me, coming from you? ;P <<DC killed my Necromancer. The computer went down, and somehow, the savegame file became corrupted. My Necromancer is no more.>> There's a certain irony there...<<So, now I suddenly have a rather substantial amount of cash... substantial enough to mean this: I'LL BE AT THE GATHERING FOR SURE!!!!!!! :)>> YES! <high-five>

Winterwolf> <<It great to have you back. I was beginning to suffer from the initial effects of Wilek withdrawal syndrome! ;)>> <blink> I'm addictive? [Wilek grabs a tricorder to check himself for hallucinogenic chemicals. He finds nothing other than his usual severe brain chemistry imbalances.] Hm. Have to consult with the Surgeon General... ;P <<The next thing I know I'll be a fire breathing Winterwolf>> Maybe I can hire you to be the custodian of my collection of flamethrowing snowmen? ^_^ <<I hope the warning marker below doesn't cause any heads to explode or implode! :P>> Trust me, those things happen all the time here anyhow; no one will know the difference. Sometimes I explode my head just because I'm in the mood for it. :P

Shogun Raptor> Happy birthday! ^_^ <<Guymelef, Gundam or Eva?>> I've never heard of Guymelef, so between Gundam and Eva...Gundam, definitely. I've seen the Eva figures, and I'm kind of not into the designs...

Niamhgold> <<they caught that serial rapist (or at least the suspect), since the idiot was caught on a security camera trying to lure a young girl into a parking garage. Thankfully, she got away and ran to police before anything could happen. He seems to fit all profiles and they have him in super custody (d@mn, everyone in this place is either psycho or amazingly nice :)>> YES! ^_^ <crosses one psycho off his list, and hopes the rest are taken down soon> <<Yes! Those are my ultimate favorites indeed! Forget the lighthearted "Eyes on Me"--although it can be quite moody--I like the themes like the "Dollet" theme song and "Liberi Fatali". <:D>> Agreed. Eyes On Me is nice, but it just doesn't have the *power* of, say, Heresy or The Legendary Beast...<<Apparently, the entire class's work $ucked for this week's abstraction project (the teacher called it "camouflage," which confused us, because camouflage implies that _one_ or a few elements are concealed while abstraction implies the entire rendering of a life observation...blah, blah, and some more important words...). So, now we all have to do the project over again, _in addition to_ our new assingment of phenomenology >:( My professor has been aptly dubbed the raging *itch...>> <head explodes from trying to figure all that out> Eee...best of luck hacking through all that. Here, have a chainsaw.

Daphne> Scary prose> Very interesting... >:)

Robby> <<The room wipe was an hour late. The CR was like a chatroom. We had something like 130 short and conversational posts in an hour, and the top 18 spots were all claimed in under a minute, with half a dozen people thinking they were first. (ANyone else here remember that night?)>> I remember...that it happened. And there was a fish tank decoration. <shrug>

Gside> <<You could say I was trying to provoke you into stepping up the timeframe for your real post.>> Ah. Heh, I kind of didn't notice that; I tend to run on different schedules than the rest of the universe... ;P <<Perhaps it was one of Wilek's hentai tentacles, but I couln't telly you how it got in.>> You'd be surprised. I've analyzed some of the remains; they seem to be part of an eleven-dimensional entity residing in some higher or lower plane. The tentacle could simply have materialized. That would explain why I'm having so much trouble with the things; they're not subject to laws of three-dimensional object permanence and thus are extremely difficult to keep away for any length of time. I've pinpointed the 3D-space parallel to where it's hiding, but I can't harm it because it's in another dimension. Any thoughts on how to confine a hyperdimensional entity to three-dimensional space? <<And does anyone else think chocolate chips should also be in the candy aisle (as well as the baking need aisle)? They make such great snacks.>> OOOohhhhh yeah...<shloip> <<I am putting up an mp3 that sounds (to me) completely noble, with no destruction.>> And where's the fun in that. ;P <<still need to look again for a good version of the Landing>> Try http://surf.to/fmc. :) <<And they had a lot more creativity way back when. I remember reading part of curse that had something like 100 verses.>> Those were the days. Whatever happened to calling someone a hogs-head of sour owl sick, or a thrice-boiled Chinaman, or a great and noted expert regarding the raping of domestic fowl? Curses are pathetic these days; entirely too dependent upon bodily processes. <<Hey, Wilek, I think you're letting the security on your tentacles lapse.>> I wish I could impose security on them at all... O_o' <<Called rapid prototyping. We've got a couple at Rutgers.>> YOU HAVE A REPLICATOR (however primitive) ON CAMPUS?!! [Wilek's drool shorts out his keyboard, causing it to explode, killing him.] <<Wilek, get back here.>> Patience, glasshopper. <<Especially Wilek. Come on Wilek, what do I have to do to get you back? Go to Cook and start making random sacrifices?>> Patience comes to those who wait. Although making sacrifices in my honor sounds cool. Let me see where I left my Pretanic runes. I think I'm using a quadryptich of them as desktop wallpaper. Prevents Bane infestation, ye know. <<I'm surprised no one has gone for the sanity collection.>> Which reminds me, I'll be needing that soon... <<Oh, sure, take the easy way out.>> Well if it's good enough for Linda Hamilton, it's good enough for us. :P

Gasper> <<Sneaking around is fun.>> For those of us who are capable of it; I wasn't able to get past that game's first room... O_o' (I'm also bad at Goldeneye and Perfect Dark...)

SRS Jr> <<Conserning the depresurisatiion of a jet cockpit... when that happens, the glass (or canopy) blows outward, and any atmosphere inside the cockpit gets sucked out into the resulting vacume. So, it's contradictory to say wind blows "in".>> Actually, it might blow in from the passenger compartment through the cockpit on the way out the window (all things are true, for a given value of 'true'). :)

GB> <<Where have you been?>> Clearing out various RL infestations...<<The Superdome was built over an Indian burial ground. This is why the Saints are cursed to lose so often.>> Seen Poltergeist? Very...inspiring. >:)

Emambu> Welcome back. ^_^ stabbing> OMG. :O It's probably a little late for this, but I'm glad it wasn't as serious as it could have been... o_o' <<Does anybody know what would be a good song (not filk or parody but an actual song) for gargoyles?>> How 'bout Liberi Fatali from Final Fantasy 8? <<Where are they now?: Rodlox, Wilek, Brooklyn, Mecord (haven't seen him on AIM in a while now), Archwolf (though he was at Shadowrider's farewell party), Cyborg, etc. Anybody know where they've been?>> I've been writing this post. <looks up and down at the towering pillar of text>

Newcomers> Welcome, deposit your sanity, and please feed the chibis. ^_^

Lexy> Song> Woah. <speechless> ^_^

SJ> <<Not only has his web-cartoon "The Seventh Portal" been optioned as a big-screen movie>> YES! 8D The Shockwave movie at www.shockwave.com fell out of sync for no reason when I tried to watch it (things just happen around me, independent of cause); I'll be glad to have it in a more reliable format. ^_^ <<News that will make Wilek very, very happy: In case you haven't heard, my big blue friend, Danny Elfman will be scoring the upcoming Spider-Man flick. I know you're a fan, so you'll be enjoying Spider-Man swinging to the tunes of the Elfman. ;)>> EEEE! <POING> Thanks for the news; I've been wondering what his next project would be. ^_^ <<Did you hear? The driver who nearly killed Stephen King with his van is now dead himself. And its under mysterious circumstances.>> Woah. Have they spotted any evil clowns in the area? <<Let's see if I can transition from talking about being proud to have Satan on my side to talking about my deep personal religious beliefs.>> Well he did lose pretty badly during the First War. If I were facing eternity stuck in a lava-choked toilet of a realm like Hell, I think I'd consider changing my alliegances to a side more likely to win. ;P <<the theory is that, if Cartoon Network does this, they may actually work their way forward through all of the Gundam series and OAVs.>> Even the one with the chibi Gundams?

Kit> <<Good news. Gus has been arrested.>> YEAH! <high-five> Here's hoping he enjoys a nice, *long* stay...

Gunjack> <<Something broke in my head over the last few days, and I'm currently SEVERELY mind%@&*ed. :P>> Congratulations. ^_^ <<Plus, the creepy dreams have started again. Had a particulerly ugly one the other night that involved xenomorphs, Homer Simpson, and a Stalin-era Russian matress factory/insane asylum... o_0>> Nice. I had a Lovecraftian one recently involving an archeological dig at a temple in a jungle, a telepathic man-eating plant in the temple, and some large alien bugs who were trying to kill the plant...they were killing the human expedition as well, until they realized they had a common enemy...it was very odd, in that it bore little resemblance to my usual dreams, which are typically so weird and disjointed as to qualify as nightmares...More recently, I seem to remeber another one about a Mega Man/Aliens crossover that's so weird I can't even remember the details...

Shadowrider> <<I'll leave in 19th of this month, meaning next Tuesday.>> :( Farewell, return soon, and try to stay alive...waitaminute. <checks calendar> Shoot, that was days ago (at least!), meaning I've missed both Shadowrider's party and his departure...<rams head into wall> :`(

Jackal> Welcome back!!! 8D With any luck, your continued presence here will cause local sanity ratings to be even less than usual. ^_^ <<It's also possible you're Madonna.>> <BLINK> <ERROR CODE 523: TOO BIZARRE FOR SNAPPY COMMENT> <<The baby is even urinating about a half liter of urine into the amniotic fluid everyday!>> I am so glad I'm a man.

www.clonejesus.com> I beg Heaven's forgiveness: this has inspired my creativity divas to alter the poem "Mary Had A Little Lamb" in a patently blasphemous manner. I've been looking for an excuse to torture the little boogers...

Nadia> <<yammer yammer... I don't think I'm saying anything even remotely useful anymore...>> I wouldn't worry--I've said very little in here that was remotely useful, and yet people here have apparently still found themselves addicted to me. I'm like Twinkies; not particularly nutritious or even satisfying, but so delicious that people just can't stay away. (OK, that could lead to some weird and disturbing places...) <<Royal Conservatory of Music Grade 10 Piano>> That sounds important. Congratulations! ^_^

DPH> <<Worse yet, would being around the glue so much lower my sanity?>> You say that like it's a bad thing. ;) <<If anyone thinks the room needs more, then dish out more.>> 'K. KERFUNGABOOBOO! SHAKA IN MY ALLEY PANTS! BIBBLE BIBBLE BIBBLE. EEGAH! <tries to bite own face> <<But is it possible to be both logical and insane at the same time?>> Ask any conspiracy theorist. ;P <<how can the humans on Avalon see everything at night since there is no artificial light on Avalon?>> Torches? Really bright moon? Fey artifacts? <<**DPH spots a temporal storm that is attempting to remove the room and its occupants from ever existing. Darn, that is what happens when you cross a temporal paradox with a black hole. DPH quickly erects a temporal forcefield surrounding the CR room. guys, this temporal forcefield will not last long.**>> Oh shoot. I know of one solution: a paranuclear warhead. It tears open a paraphasic rift that sucks in everything within a user-adjustable radius, then the rift implodes forcefully when it reaches saturation. Detonating it within the temporal storm's event horizon might remove the storm from this universe, or it might remove this universe. <produces a remote control> After I hit this button, everybody pray very fast.

DJ> <<How about Triskaidekism, the religion for all dedicated triskaidekaphiles? Fridays the 13 could be considered holy days.>> Oh yeah! Fridays the 13th seem to be lucky days for me anyhow... Depression> Ack. O_o Good luck shaking that, if you haven't already...

Selanit> Welcome back! :D Toybuilders.com> [Upon his visit to the site, Wilek's expression is first a beatific astonishment, then an evil grin descending into maniacal laughter brought on by the knowledge of a lifelong dream so close to coming true.] I must get started on art commissions. They'll need reference drawings for my characters... 8) <<Were the omomyoidae haplorrhines or strepsirrhines?>> Are those reproductive organs or Greek desserts? <<What's Gingerich's formula?>> Gin, club soda, tequila, and LSD, with a pinch of lime. <<Which species lacks an opposable hallux?>> The Dislumini Union. Rather than Upper and Lower Halluces (parliementary houses), the ruling body consists of one Grand Hallux consisting of three members of each of the three castes, presided over by a Prime Minister. (I have more BS than a fertilizer synthesis facility.)

Personality test> Dreamer. :)

Dame Corax> <<Hey, all! I just passed my first college chemistry test! YEEEE-HAAAWWW!!! :) I'm really glad. I needed the boost, you know? :)>> Congratulations! :D I've heard those are absolutely ghastly... O_o <<oh, wait...I'm going to hell, aren't I?>> Hm. [Wilek whips out a cell phone and has a brief, hushed conversation on it. There is the sense of a deal having been arrived at.] No. :) <<Well, I contrasted certain stereotyped shows with how the Hopi and Haida peoples were represented in Gargoyles! It gave me a great excuse to watch some episodes again, and it also got me an A. Thanks, Gargoyles!!! :)>> Cool! Who says TV rots the mind. :P

Action Figures Who Say Ni!> A company called Sideshow Toy will soon be releasing 12" figures from Monty Python And The Holy Grail. Characters will include King Arthur, Sir Lancelot, and a bunch of others I can't remember. Also on their list of future releases will be action figures from The Dark Crystal and Young Frankenstein. Details at www.sideshowtoy.com. You're welcome. :) And MacFarlane Toys will soon be releasing a figure of Ash from Army Of Darkness, as part of an experiment to see how much anticipation it takes to make SJ's head explode. (I wager 513 quatloos that it'll take at least 17 on the K3 scale.)

Spacebabie> <<Has anyone been watching this Intruder thing on Toonami??>> I wish; for some reason, every time I find something I want to watch, I forget to watch it. >:/

Taleweaver> <<I got some BIG news. Yours truly will be on Jeopardy later this month as a contestant.>> WOW! Congratulations, and good luck! ^_^

Coyote> Happy birthday! ^_^

<moment of silence for Granite/Kelly>

Ieatu> <<Hi, Im a bike face case of car>> URSMRTRNI? DLUR, TRKE.

Arianna> ARI!!!!! <tackle-hugZ> It's been so long...<<I have just as much work if not more, but I also have huge chunks of time during my day to do it in! Of course, there is alwayss the late-night solution...especially when one has just finished the fourth draft of an English paper on Milton that's due tomorrow. One draft to go, gods help me...>> Oiii...Good luck with that. Maybe there's a way to persuade the faculty to lighten your workload? Voodoo dolls, perhaps, or maybe a good old-fashioned flamethrower? <<Somehow, i don't think someone hoping to be an English major should be this upset about an English class... ^_^>> Trust me, it's perfectly natural...cramming every single technical detail of the English language down the throat of someone who speaks it fluently has always struck me as a bit illogical. Like taking the pulse of a severed head. <<I'm going through Border's withdrawal>> At least you live less than two hours from the place. ;P

Cool stuff> Check out http://www.srl.org/new_machines.html. Yes, that's a 2x4 cannon and a flamethrower made from a Boeing engine. Forget Santa, I'm giving THESE people my Christmas list.

Super Armadillo whatsitsface> Peterbilt...von Dieseldorf...? I love that name for some reason. It's just very...German. ^_^

Traveller> WELCOME BACK!!! 8D It's been such a long time...it's been just a *little* too sane here without you. >;) <<Oh, you too? Though I prefer to bar-be-que>> Uh uh. Limit Break attack, then BBQ whatever's left (I seem to be in a Final Fantasy mood, just at the moment). >;)

Mandolin> E-mail apocalypse> OH. MY. GODS. :O Everyone responsible for this dies. And the owner of jac2 gets to participate in the killing, since he helped stop the deletions (however inadvertantly)...

SOROW> <<Two years ago today at 4:42 pm I posted for the very first time in this room.>> Happy anniversary! ^_^ Where'd I leave my cake printer...

<joins the group hug with Nadia, SOROW, and everyone else who needs it>

Airwalker> Welcome back! ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 02:33:04 AM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

The Morning After Pill- Ok, I began to doubt my sanity for a second, but it turns out I'm all right! Though I was unable to find it's actual name, I found info about it:

"If you have had unprotected intercourse, you might want to consider using the Morning After Pill (MAP) for emergency contraception. Treatment consists of two doses of hormone pills, with the first dose taken as soon as possible after unprotected intercourse and the second dose 12 hours later. The MAP provides a short, strong burst of hormones which may prevent pregnancy by temporarily stopping eggs from being produced, by stopping fertilization, or by stopping implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus.

If you are already pregnant, or had unprotected intercourse within the 10 days prior to the current 72 hour period you are NOT a candidate for the Morning After Pill. The Morning After Pill will not terminate an existing pregnancy and may be harmful to the fetus. If you choose to take the Morning After Pill, a pregnancy test is required before the pill is prescribed.

The MAP should be reserved for emergency situations and should not be used to prevent pregnancy on a regular basis.

You can receive the Morning After Pill at the Student Health Clinic in Duke Family Medicine Center (684-3180). If DFMC is closed, go to the Infirmary (684-3367). Call first. Go as soon as possible since the medication must be started within 72 hours after intercourse."

That ruffly translate into WE DON'T NEED RU-486!!!!
Now, I'm pro-choice and everything, but like I said, I'm against an abortion pill that we plainly do not need. There is NO..., repeat... NOONNONOOO excuse to be pregnant if you don't want to be. And I know sum idiots that are sooo pro-life, that they view birth control as a type of abortion..., "Preventing the way things should be." Whatever. I also know idiots that view abortion as a type of birth control.... Exercise common sense!!!

Point of View- When does a life begin: A bunch of duplicating cells? We all kill them every day without even trying. When the heart beats? Possibly. Or with the development of the brain?

I say when the heart beats. Anytime before that, get ur termination on. Now, I know I'm doin all this pro-choice talk but yet I'm the "master" of 3 children. I love them all and would be TOTALLY lost without them, they have given soo much meaning to my life, and as fucked up as it sounds, we have grown up together, are growing together, and will continue to grow together. I can't imagine life without my lil heathens.
jackal
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 02:21:10 AM
IP: ac9928dd.ipt.aol.com

Winterwolf > I got the e-mail, and will reply more in-depth later, but thank you! It was wonderful! Brightened a rather grim day.

Sabledrake > the October issue is finally posted! Click or go to http://www.sabledrake.com/magazine.htm and thank you to all our great contributors!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, October 4, 2000 12:06:33 AM
IP: 209.236.216.55

**Winterwolf tears into the CR for a fast post that's been building up**

Hi! Well it seems the bug has gotten me too! I've been really busy the past couple of days at home and at work and it only promises to stay that hectic if I'm lucky!

I thank FireStorm, DPH, Robby and Coyote for their responses to the Question. Here's the whole thing:

One day, a project leader was asked to submit a review of one of his employees.
He wrote the following:

Bob Smith, my assistant programmer, can always be found
hard at work in his cubicle. Bob works independently, without
wasting company time talking to colleagues. Bob never
thinks twice about assisting fellow employees, and he always
finishes given assignments on time. Often, Bob takes extended
measures to complete his work, sometimes skipping coffee
breaks. Bob is a dedicated individual who has absolutely no
vanity in spite of his high accomplishments and profound
knowledge in his field. I firmly believe that Bob can be
classed as a high-caliber employee, the type which cannot be
dispensed with. Consequently, I duly recommend that Bob be
promoted to executive management, and a proposal will be
executed as soon as possible.

Regards - Project Leader
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Shortly thereafter, the HR department received the following memo from the project leader:
Sorry, but that idiot was reading over my shoulder while I wrote the report sent to you earlier today. Kindly read only the odd numbered lines for my true assessment of him.


Here's one for everyone:

An Amish boy and his father were visiting a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and back together again.

The boy asked his father, "What is this, Father?"

The father (never having seen an elevator) responded "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."

While the boy and his father were watching wide-eyed, an old lady in a wheel chair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched small circles of lights with numbers above the walls light up. They continued to watch the circles light up in the reverse direction. The walls opened up again, and a beautiful 24 year-old woman stepped out.

The father, not taking his eyes off the young woman, said quietly to his son, "Go get your Mother."


RU-486> I do not like the idea of this drug and would not want it used. It just seems like an acceptable form of murder to me. That's something I strongly and completely disagree with!

Niamhgold> **Hugs** Get through these tough weeks ahead and I hope your workload gets lighter so you have some time for everything you want to do! I'll send you plenty of good and merry wishes so that for everything you need to do won't seem too long, overwhelming or difficult! You go show them Niamhgold can do it all! ^_^

Mandolin> <students are last priority> The lowest? That is just waiting for trouble! I hope you manage to get plenty of good things out of there. Unfortunately it sounds like you will really need to work for it! :( <lost e-mail> Ouch! That is just plain evil! I couldn't imagine losing all my email! I'd be really upset! Hopefully it will be completely restored soon!

SOROW> <October 1, 1998 4:42 PM was my first post> My first post was Tuesday, April 4, 2000 03:34:08 PM EST <Anniversary of your first post> How did I not cheer "Congratulations" for you earlier? Doh! Better late than never I suppose! **Congratulates you with a warriors handshake followed by a hug and a kiss on each cheek** I for one am very happy to have you here! May you have many more happy and fun times in the CR! ^_^

Daphne> <Prom Dance the night before SATs> It is madness I tell you! Well if you take it in moderation it can be okay. The dance can give you a chance to unwind and relax before the test. That said I do agree the timing is bad. It does not make for getting a good night sleep the night before unless you leave really early! And that idea just seems so unfair! Like you can't have any real fun. Then if you stay and have a good time you will be sleepy the next morning and not do as well as you otherwise would! :(

Christine> The feedback is in the email box! I hope it makes as much sense to you as it does to me! I'll be happy to explain any comment that I made if you want more info! :)

Dame Corax> <Gargoyles helped me pass my midterm> That is awesome! I love hearing how Gargoyles can help out in every day life! ^_^ <engineering> Sounds like you'd be a great engineer! I've worked on cars myself so I know what you mean! One thing that has made me laugh is how much Star Trek engineering techno babble borrows from automotive terminology. Once I find a car with a warp core it's all done! :D

Gside> Get everything in order soon. I need someone to do Monty Python skits with! :)

Warpmind> <I'd make another pun on the horse subject> I understand. I was a little concerned with my last one but it seems to be in the clear. :D

Daphne> <editor of the school's literary magazine> Wow! Congrats! That's outstanding! ^_^

Robby> <Posting woes> May your next post be trouble free and DC be massacred to small fragments for you difficulties! <answer> You got it! Have you heard that one before?

Mandolin> <account is restored> Woo Hoo! Excellent! :)

Pendragon> I need to read the new episode after this post!

Caliope> <next test> What! O.O Nooooooo!! :P <If I'm in NY, YOU have to be my tour guide!> Of course! I'll show you all the sites, even the tourist ones! ;D <Roswell> Heh! Completely! All the relationships have changed dramatically, at least for now... I hope they turn that around and get them back on track! And all these evil aliens are on the loose! The show seems to be so much more SciFi now! I hope this works out!

Nadia Komarov> I'm very happy to know that things are looking up! ^_^

DPH> <parent> Hey why don't you get in with the group hug? It might make you feel a little better. And just in case you need a little more you have friends here that care! <RP> Thanks for 'disconnecting' Frost! ;)

Daphne> Wait there's more Congratulations on the way! ^_^

Spike> I don't see the problem myself. It seemed logical to introduce each of these characters as they were going to play a part in the current story. It's not like characters were introduced for the sake of just doing it! <pics> Thanks! I absolutely love the pictures! :)

SOROW> <everyone caring about everyone else> You are a very positive influence! ^_^

**Joins in on the GROUP HUG**

Okay I've got to run! Good night!

**Winterwolf jets out of the room as fast as wolfishly possible**
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 11:25:11 PM
IP: 1cust182.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net

Ed>> Hey, if you think the cast of "On Holiday" is a crowd just reading it, you should try WRITING them!! *laughs* I sometimes wonder if there are TGS staff meetings where they say "Hmm, this is a really convoluted outline -- let's give it to Christi, she'll do it...!"

Which is why I tend to do a LOT of doodling and storyboards to get to know the characters better. Here's a page of some of the UNUSED character studies that I worked from. (I'll post the unused story illustrations in a day or so.)

Enjoy!
Spike
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 11:03:50 PM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-214.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

No RP for tonight. I feel bad about that, because Warpmind and Robby are doing their part and furthering the story (kudos to both of you guys), but I've spent the past 4 days sick in bed with the mother of all flus / colds. So, I'm gonna sit out for tonight.

Politics: I thought I'd throw this out, since the first of the 3 debates airs tonight. Is anyone going to watch them? I sure as hell am not. I mean, it's almost a waste of time. On the one hand, I suppose that it's good that we get to hear what both sides have to say.....but then again, we may not really care what either of them have to say. I mean, let's be honest--are either Bush or Gore going to really sway anyone tonight? The election is only a month away. Most people have made up their mind one way or another by now. This is just taking up air time. Thank God that Buffy and Angel came on tonight.
Besides, we'll never get to see what we really want--a verbal cage match. C'mon....wouldn't you love it if both candidates just dropped all pretenses and just openly insulted each other? It'd be refreshing.

Gore: Hey, daddy's boy! You think you can buy the White House too?
Bush: Nice one, Mr. Surfboard. Invent anything good this week? Like a personality?
Gore: F@#& you!
Bush: No, F@#& you, F@#&ball!!!

THAT would be beautiful. Hell, I'd pay for that on pay-per-view.

The best suggestion I heard, though, came from a late, late, late night radio show broadcast in the New York and D.C. area called Ron and Fez .Com. (I'm an insomniac). They seemed to believe that if Bush were to declare tonight that his first act as President would be to blow up the moon, he would win by a landslide. And I agree. How cool would that be? We blow up the friggin' moon. No other country would dare piss us off after that, cause hell, we were crazy enough to blow up the moon! What a great campaign slogan. "Vote for Bush and Agains the Moon!"
Well, *I* thought it was a funny bit. Of course, when it's 3 in the morning and you're high on Mountain Dew and butter croissants, most everything is funny.

PROOF that Satan is on the side of us Republicans: Recently, the Antichrist Superstar himself, Marilyn Manson has come clean (hee hee) and admitted that in this upcoming election he will be voting for Bush.
Which makes sense, cause Joe Lieberman is the idiot who was going around actually saying that Marilyn was responsible, at least in part, for the Columbine massacre. I can see how that would put a bit of a damper on voting Democrat, seeing as the v.p. hopeful thinks he really IS the Antichrist.
Still, I welcome Marilyn's vote! Hey, we are the "Evil" party, why shouldn't Satan be on OUR side?

RU-486: Let's see if I can transition from talking about being proud to have Satan on my side to talking about my deep personal religious beliefs.
Okay, let me preface this by saying I'm vehemently and unrepentantly pro-life. I do not believe in abortion. I would ask to everyone who disagrees with me to not question this belief of mine, as I'm really not interested in explaining my rationale behind my line of thinking. Let's just say that yes, a large part of it is because at my core, I am rather religious. With that said, here I go:
I was upset by the passing of RU-486, but not for the reasons mentioned by others in this room. I do agree that, if the drug needed more testing, than it should be given more time instead of given approval. However, that's not why I oppose the drug. This is why--I think that it further dehumanizes the act of abortion, if such a thing is in fact possible. As it stands today, abortion is a medical procedure that often has intense psychological effects upon a woman. With this drug, however, I feel that that is being taken away. It's like the fetus is an afterthought. Pregnant, but don't want it? Take the pill, you'll be fine. It just dehumanizes the act even further. I'm sure some of you are reading this and thinking I'm crazy for saying that I don't like how this, but personally, I don't find guilt-free abortion appealing. I'm not saying all women would be this way, mind you.
PLEASE, I beg of those of you who disagree with me, don't try and nitpick me. I don't want this to turn into some sort of debate. If you think I'm full of crap, just write me off as full of crap, or misguided, or etc. Just please don't turn this into another tedious debate, please?

Send James Cameron to the Moon: Here's news that brightened by day--someone actually got the right idea. James Cameron is going to get booted off the planet.
Cameron is apparently some sort of space nut, and is actually going to pay the Russians to send him into space so that he can live out some sort of boyhood fantasy to be an astronaut. So his award-winning director ass is going to be floating up in Mir. Good luck, Jim. The Russians aren't exactly known for their great equipment.
If it sounds like I'm being cold, it's because I think James Cameron is a pretentious prick. And on this planet of ours, there's only room for one of those, and you're looking at him, baby!

Traveler: Funny....I have the funniest urge to say "dragon"....
Oh, and about wrestling--hey, I was a "Hulkamaniac" back in the day. I trained hard, said my prayers, and ate my vitamins. But I grew up angry and disenfranchised, as did apparently a lot of my generation, so I suppose that I now relate more to "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and The Rock. Plus wrestling just fun to watch. It's opium of the mind.

Yes, that's right. I'm a wrestling fan. Dirty little secret. You may not like it, but you will learn to--WHAT???--**LOVE IT***--WHY??? Bottom line! Because it is the Best.....Thing....Going.....TODAY!!! WHOOOOO!!!!!!
I am the Game, and I am THAT DAMN GOOD.

And these anti-flu drugs are damn fun to take.

All Gundam, All the Time: Cartoon Network is so impressed with the success of Gundam Wing, which is only a brief 49 episodes long, that they are considering showing the original Gundam series (I think it's Mobile Suit Gundam 0079, but I'm probably wrong). Sure, it's 20 years old, but the kids these days just seem to be goofy over big fighting robots. Anyway, the theory is that, if Cartoon Network does this, they may actually work their way forward through all of the Gundam series and OAVs. leading up to the Gundam Wing series.

***BUFFY AND ANGEL SPOILERS***

BUFFY: Good episode tonight, much, much, much better than last weeks. This time we actually get to see the Scooby Gang back into the thick of things. I liked the overall plot of the show, with the contrast between Buffy being annoyed by her new little sister and concerned for her once Harmony shows up.
It was good to see Harmony again, with her gang of loser sidekicks. Once again, Joss proves that HE is the Game by making sure that the minions have their own unique personalities, instead of just being slayer fodder. I like Spike's brief role, too, and his funny interaction with Buffy.
But the real pleasant surprise is Dawn. I like Michelle Trachtenberg as Buffy's little sister. She's just a fun character, with her own unique and entertaining personality. So far we know she's a bit jealous of Buffy, she's in love with Xander, and she doesn't feel that she really belongs with the gang. I'm interested in seeing more of her in the coming weeks.

There is a couple things of real note here in this episode:
1. The bum on the street. He was insane, but he knew something the rest of the world didn't--Dawn does NOT belong. "Curds and Whey. You don't belong here!" Good foreshadowing. Maybe only the insane, i.e. those who already have a fractured view of reality, can see something that's amiss? I'm reminded of Jonathan in last season's "Superstar" episode.
2. This is slight, but it lends proof to the whole Tara-is-a-demon theory. When Willow hugs Tara, who is smiling, and calls her one of the "good guys"--the smile vanishes, and Tara squirms out of Willow's embrace. Or maybe I'm just nitpicking because I don't really like Tara. I'm sorry, but I just love Oz and Willow. Cutest couple on Buffy, IMO.

ANGEL: A much better episode than from last week. I've always had a soft spot for noirs, and this one was particularly well done. I liked the flashbacks to Angel's past. This was something that I enjoyed from last season, where they would occasionally flash back upon Angel's past in a very Highlander sort of way. I think this is relevant, as much of what Angel does now is to try and atone for all of his evil in the past.
Tonight was no exception. This was a rather insightful moment into Angel's psyche during his "hiding" time after he first got a soul. Instead of using it to combat evil like he does today, he spent years unsure of his role in the whole cosmic good vs. evil battle. I thought it pretty dark and unsettling that, even with a soul, Angel chose to walk out on the hotel full of people and leave them to the clutches of the demon.
All in all, a good episode, well-acted by Boreanaz, and kudos to the writers for making a rather unique and interesting tale of Ange's past with a very noir feeling.
***END SPOILERS***

Oh...and if anyone wants to catch a glimpse of Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid in the new Harry Potter film....click on my name!!!

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 10:59:28 PM
IP: cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net

not much time to post.
A general thank you for the grats.
Hugs all around!

Happiness!
Daphne, apprentice wordsmith
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 09:31:02 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.222.113.philadelphia1.level3.net

hmm. when is leaving an email address on a resume an invitation for spam to that email address?

So much for having spam free email accounts. Only 1 email account of mine has not had spam: the one with my ISP. If that email account gets spam, I will change that email address AGAIN. BTW, nobody knows that email address because only 1 thing goes there: my internet bill.

Hmm. my direct deposit check went it late this weekend. Anybody with answers?

**PARENT RANT**
Idiot. Does not think ahead. Hypocrite. No understanding. the idiot wants me to stand up as much as possible when my doctor told me to give my back as much rest as possible. Boy, will he be in a surpise if/when I move out and DON'T try to communicate with him. Yep, he will NOT know even my telephone number and I will finally have peace.
**END PARENT RANT**

**BFTS RP continues**
DPH looks at his VR setup and realizes that Frost somehow is blocked from using it so DPH takes him out of VR.
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 08:43:36 PM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

I honestly don't know what to say! You all have reduced me to tears cause it's so good to see everyone caring about everyone else. Thank you so much, I feel incredibly better! I love you all! *group hug*
SOROW
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 06:49:10 PM
IP: a030-0851.dll2.splitrock.net

***Kyryn runs through and hugs Nadia.***

Nadia> Royal Conservatory of Music? You must be very good!

***Kyryn rushes out again.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 06:10:59 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

**Nadia peeks in the door of the comment room... then enters carrying a rolled up piece of paper. She is shaking a little... the secrecy is unbearable...
Upon reaching the centre of the room, she unravels the paper with an enthusiastic shout of "TA-DAH!!!!"
Seeing that no one really understands, she points to the fancy calligraphy that says "Royal Conservatory of Music Grade 10 Piano" and grins, saying, "I passed!!" and does a little dance.
Then, from the pocket of her fuzzy yellow polar fleece pants, she produces a small home made duct tape wallet, which she opens to reveal... A BUS PASS AND STUDENT CARD!!!!!!!!!!!
"oh joy of joys, there are actually honest people in the world! I had begun to lose heart !"

Feeling tired from the release of so much energy, Nadia finds a comfy looking couch and collapses for a nice nap. Buffy and Angel tonight, doncha know??? Gotta be all rested up for the important things in life :)
(and don't any of you try to tickle me when I look all cute and sleeping, either, cause it won't work...)
;b
N.


Nadia Komarov
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 06:07:11 PM
IP: dynrez216-3267.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

PENDRAGON: 'ON HOLIDAY' PART TWO

***Post contains spoilers. Shake well before use.***

Some lovely conclusions to some cool plot ideas. Despite the sheer number of names which still confused me several times, I enjoyed much of the story. The Dorcas stuff was cool, and I loved the interaction between Merlin and Mary. Kylie's decision is cool too; at least it was written well. I'm slightly less convinced that it's conceptually as top-dollar. Also, I'm not too fond of the watering-down of the more conventional rookery parent thing, but it makes some interesting plots.

But I still feel that this unnecessarily chucked in everything but the kitchen sink. It isn't even as though there was really a great deal of a connection between all the plots (like a central theme or something). They work okay together, but Mary's sleepwalking and the Illuminati members weren't deeply entwined thematically or even in the events. It came across more as a 'while we're at it' opportunity to push forward ten to twenty minor characters in one go. Specifically: Dulcinea, Doug, Ratcliffe, Feldman, Lucy, Dorcas, Remus, Rosalind, Caspian, Lancelot (albeit terminally), Kirstie, Prongs and Kylie (but I'm sure I forgot a few, and I hope I got those names right). Loads of different plots too, from Merlin's personal history, to the World Gathering to goodness knows what else. Still, much of the material was good, even if it did have a bit too much of a good thing. A bit like eating ten Mars bars at once.

Anyway, good job Christi (on both writing and artistic counts). Looking forward to next week's episode! ^_^
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 04:52:13 PM
IP: webcachew02b.cache.pol.co.uk

*Warpmind enters, wiping away tears.*
Hi, guys. *Snif.* Don't worry 'bout me - I had to cut up onions today. *Snif.* Aw, crud, my eyes sting... :(

Revel: I know - you don't have any idea what you've committed yourself to come June... ];) Oh, and I agree - the case *is* stupid.

Mandolin: Good to see *someone* found the article useful...

Sorow: *Hug*

Coyote: Exactly the reason why the ruling is stupid - the harassment law does was made to protect people from others using sex as a means to climb the career ladder...

Oooo, new ep... gonna read it later... :)

Gside: Good point... but really, isn't there *anyone* you can bribe? ;) Oh, and believe me, you've *not* corrupted me - my mind has been running in such patterns for the better part of the past decade. I just keep a lid on it most of the time. ;)

**RP**
Warpmind entered the restaurant where SJ, Kari and the demon warriors were sitting. Carrying a large sack, he still managed to sneak up to the demons unnoticed.
"Guys? Don't want to interrupt the show over there, but... when we leave, I've got some stuff for you. As some of you probably know, the Realmsfarers have been confiscating various Infernal and Divine weapons - now, you can have some of them back."
Angol Moa looked up sharply.
"You have our weapons?"
"Maybe not yours specifically, but I doubt you'll be disappointed. After you guys have finished your meal, 'kay?"
Angol looked up at the still-furious waiter beside him, who seemed to be in some sort of stasis.
"May I have one at this moment, please?"
"Well... convince me."
"He refuses to bring me what I ordered."
Warpmind grinned, recalling written records of the pickyness of some demons.
"Sorry, Angol. Can't do that. Regulations. However, I can... persuade him to obey requests."
"Excellent."
Warpmind pulled up a small pendant, holding it up before the waiter's eyes.
"Mind dropping the stasis he's in, Angol?"
Belzelk chuckled.
"Well, I'll be... you're all right, for a Realmsfarer..."
**END RP**

Well, that's it... ciao.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 02:21:20 PM
IP: mp-217-199-156.daxnet.no

Hi! Speeding throgh * ^_~ *

Gside> <<El Mio Cid>>: Just watch out for the airships. And give my regards to Mid>> Huh?! Gside! You've gone right back to baffling again hun! :P

Doug> Thank you so very much, and good luck to you too! :P

Winterwolf> <<Test>> *sighs* Yes it is gone, but she's already talking bout the next test! :( <<brooklyn>> lol so If I'm in NY, YOU have to be my tour guide! :P <<smarts>> lol I had almost forgoted about that! Well, hope they helped you out a bit then :P As for me, well, sometimes this brain of mine just does not mind its mistress :P <<Roswell>> Oh! I saw it, It was neet! But the whole group dynamic is so changed now! sheesh! And what up with that new waitress girl, I'll bet she's and evil alien type too :P

Emambu> Thanx for the well wishes on my tests! Hope you do good to :) I dont think I've seen "El Norte" altho I did see this film from Argentina called "Hombre mirando al norte"...I think that was the title, but it was very good too :) And you havent watched Ranma?!!? Go get it! Quick! :P

Well, I gotta run again! I'll See ya guys! *HUGZ and zooms away*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 01:48:20 PM
IP: 136.145.83.182

**PENDRAGON SPIOLERS NOT LIKELY BUT POSSIBLY** Maybe I was imagining but it seemed short. Very good episode though :) **END POSSIBLE SPOILERS** 3 Random Facts: 1) Indiana Jones dranks from the Holy Grail in the Last Crusade movie. 2) Duval (ie Percival *l*) now has the grail 3) Proffesor Jones works at the same university (ie Columbia University in New York city) as Proffesor MacDuff. Why did I post those facts?: Neat idea for a fanfiction
James Birdsong
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 11:35:32 AM
IP: h2odam.sdccd.cc.ca.us

Hey all,

RU-486> Ah, I remember this from my high school days. In our Speech & Debate tourneys, abortion was a perennial topic in Student Congress. It has been around for more than ten years. The FDA took it's time to approve it. I suspect it was because it was too politically charged to go through the FDA's office at the time. But time and boredom have a way of calm political fervor so now it's safe to do.

As for approval, ideally the FDA approves things to make sure that drugs are safe and the side-effects are known. Yes, there are ways to induce abortion (I don't think there is a morning after pill. You're going to have to supply a name on that one Jackal.) But the problem is that the side-effects aren't known and you could do some serious damage if you don't know what your doing. Pragmatically, the FDA is the only gatekeeper for a multi-trillion (that's with a T) industry. You have dozens of pharm-firms sending up hundreds of drugs. Each potentially making billions in profit for their company. Money is definately a concern. I don't believe the FDA is virginal pure, but the alternative (which is partically realized now) is going on the honor of the pharmaceutical companies. And they may be more interested in profit than people.

WB Line-up> I've tried to get into the Jackie Chan show. (I find the smart aleck kid a little annoying) I think I know why I don't like it. It's animated. I love the Jackie Chan movies because the fast paced action is done out here in RL. It has a cartoon-like flavor, but a real life frame. Animated it loose that edge. It isn't as involving animated. I'm sure if this were a live action series, I'd stick to it like glue, but here it doesn't work for me.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 10:46:20 AM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

nadia- I know what you are going through. Hugz-I know it feels terrible now the loniness, and I am very angrey at those bastards (by this I mean the assault) but do not punish yourself for their evil. They did the wrong, not you. Know that you are not alone, and many hearts are with you during this time. Hugz--

Sorow- Hugz to you too. Don't parents act like such children some times. Hugz again

Niamhgold- you and my hubby should talk..your complaints about school sound just like his. Hang in there.
jenna
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 08:19:41 AM
IP: 204.31.87.100

Hugs to all, especially those in need of 'em!!! **Joins in on the hug-a-thon**

SOROW> **hugs** Don't worry, sweetie. I can tell you that I know exactly how you feel with the whole parental situation. I've been in a few odd ones myself...but things will always turn out right in the end, even if it takes a really long time! :) Hope you feel better!

Robby> I kinda like the new WB lineup too. Of course Pokemon is cool, and I've been getting hooked on the Jackie Chan show, because Jackie Chan is just so cool...and I've been watchin' Cardcaptors a few times lately too...I like Batman Beyond also. Pretty good stuff.

Coyote> Aw, thanks. :) You're so nice! **hugs** And thank Professor Throttlebody for me, too! ;) **steps on top of the Tea Table** And let me announce right now that if, by some humorous gesture on the heavenly father's part, or an equally weird twist of fate, I become an automotive engineer, I will *never* design something as horrible as that Grand Prix body! I've worked on some others that were awful to get to important parts too. I can't remember what model it was, but there was a car I once had to do an oil change on where you almost had to take off some stuff just to get to the stupid filter...**shudders**

And if I ever meet the guy that designed the W-body, rest assured he'll receive his swift kick to the backside. :)

By the way, Coyote, funny story...the engineering department here has a truck they want to convert to a hyper car (gas and electric motor). So somehow I was asked to come take a look at this thing with a group of guys. Well, they wanted to know how much gas the thing had in it, but they couldn't find the tank, since where the tank usually is in the back was filled with batteries and stuff. So they were talking about where the tank could be, while I realized I was leaning right over the coolant tank, which smelled suspiciously like gasoline. So, lo and behold, I unscrew the plastic cap...and it smells like gasoline! So I announced I had found the gas tank, and the guys yelled back like I was an idiot, "No, that's the coolant tank." And I was like, "No, come smell this. This ain't coolant." And they argued, but then finally came over...and whaddaya know? Whoever was trying to convert the truck had changed the coolant tank into the gas tank. The same day, I even replaced a broken back taillight on the truck all by myself (not a hard job, I know, but it sure impressed the guys). Well, I kinda shocked 'em I think, and now anytime that they meet to look at the truck, they always call me up to see if I can come. And I'll admit I don't know anything about electric cars. Heck, I don't even know all that much about trucks. All I did was find the gas tank and replace a light bulb... :)

Silly engineers... :)

**Dame Corax turns to leave, then spies Mr. Disconnect trying to hide over in the corner. She points a finger at him menacingly.** You're mine, DC, once my computer starts working! You can count on it. **evil grins** :)

(Coyote, I'm still being silly too...maybe somebody spiked the CR punch...) :)

Later, all!
Dame Corax
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 01:39:59 AM
IP: guilder.telcom.arizona.edu

**Winterwolf slips in**

So much for a full post. That waits for tomorrow now.
I'm completely swamped with work yet happy and at peace. I blame Chrisine Morgan! :) **Shameless plug** Everyone should read her writing! I promise to send that email Christine just give me a little time. ^_^

**Good vibes to Infinity** May your next day a good one that lets you forget the difficulty of this one past!

**Comfort Hugs to Niamhgold, SOROW and Nadia!** I know each of you will pull through! I offer my time if you ever want to make use of it. **Comfort Hugs again**

Good night!

**Winterwolf takes off**
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 12:53:16 AM
IP: 206.15.120.130

** The skidding is heard again **

Dern it, forgot something!

Hugs to Sorow, Nadia, and everyone else ( Nadia, I totally understand what you mean about the Useless Facts 101. Sometimes I wonder why I'm in art school; I'm the _only_ one who goes in on their own time to leard 3D studio max--everyone else thinks they don't need to know about computers...sigh)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 12:34:29 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

** The CR dwellers catch a glimpse of a human running past the doorway. A few seconds later, a skidding noise is heard, and Niamhgold barely stops herself from slamming into the wall as she backtracks **

Sorry guys! ** Huff-puff ** I'm in such a hurry today that I almost missed my post! Can't say much, only that I may be lurking for the next week or so on account of midterms and all...

Speaking of which...Mother of Pearl! Could we have enough assignments?!? No, please, give me some _more_ work to do, I beg of you all! }:( Guess they weren't kidding when they said this was a tough art school...I should've paid more attention! (let's see...3 major perspective Drawing assignments, a thesis, a 7-page essay on Aboriginal art, a duo-diptych (I don't know what else to call a painting divided into fours...a quadrych?), 20 sculpture sketches, 10 drawing sketches, a contextual essay on William Wiley, a paper on my personal cosmology, and, finally, an armature of wood more than five feet tall!) Whoa, writing all that makes me feel better! :D

On a better note...Fall Break is this weekend. I'm not going home, but it'll give me the non-roomie time I need to do some reading! Not to mention that perspective drawing (especially 3-point) is my favorite type of assignment, so at least it's something I _like_.

And, on a funnier note...we were outside delineating the train station today and a bum came by and admired Sergio's drawing. Poor Serge, the guy was hitting on him badly! Not only that, but the bum kept telling us the teacher was a b-tch, so she had to shoo him away :) God, I love this city!

Bye all!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, October 3, 2000 12:28:07 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

You know, I really think there should be more hugs for everyone HUGS HUGS HUGS!!!!!!!! HUGS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!
That's the problem with society nowadays, there just aren't enough hugs...

**** sad words and lost memories****
When I first went away to school, I missed touch so much that I cried every night. To touch another is, I think, the most sincere form of communication. I used to write to my mother and send her origami paper cranes because she was sick. She used to send me little round pieces of paper with dates written on them, representing the "o" hugs that people sign in "xoxo" at the end of letters. For Christmas last year, I made her 1,000 paper cranes. (I folded so many that I almost got a repetitive strain injury- and had to wear a wrist support for a few months...:b)
I miss my mum so very much. I miss her voice, I miss her hugs. A few years ago, I remember wishing that she would die because I couldn't stand her, she was always shouting at me for something or other. My room wasn't tidy, I wasn't practicing my instruments enough. She never had to shout about really serious things, like drugs or alcohol, I always thought she should shut up until I had a real problem, and then yell. I wear her knitted scarf almost every day, but it doesn't smell like her anymore.
I have had a headache for at least six months, now, always in the same place at the back of my skull on the left side. I am afraid. So I drown myself with doing three more courses than I am supposed to be taking. I grow plants and trees obsessively, in the hope of being able to help something live and survive. I saved an enormous palm tree from the Home Depot garbage pile that was so close to death that no one thought it would survive... yet it is now in my rez room, and I wake up every morning thinking I am in a green jungle. I buy feeder goldfish to save their lives, even though shibunkins and koi are my favourite. I will buy a mutt from the Humane Society, someday, when I no longer live in residence.
The world here is so lonely. My father tries to be there for me but sometimes, I find I can't tell him things because I don't want to upset him. I worry that he is the only family member I have left in this country. I worry that he is not as young as he used to be, and has high blood pressure. My student card and bus pass were stolen last Thursday, and it will cost a lot of money to replace them, and I can't tell him because he will be so angry. Shame is a great punnisher.
I was assaulted last week... what is it with men? I haven't told my father that, either. I cringe when they come near. I think I should shave my head, make scars on my body, or never look at anyone again, never let anyone touch me again, then maybe I would become ugly again, and people would leave me alone.
I am behind in my classes, now. I cannot write music, there is something in the way. Our professor tells us that if we are uninspired, we should "just write a fugue or something"... as though writing a fugue were so stupidly simple that it wasn't worth a second thought.
I went to far too few classes today, and ate far too many chocolate covered almonds.
I think that if someone doesn't touch me soon, I will never feel it again and I really will become my net alias of Nadia, the bitter RP cyborg with no sense of touch, who lives indefinately because she has no on/off switch.
I wish I had brought more of my stone gargoyles from home, Castor is the only one here and he has his nose burried perpetually in a book... mum always said I should stop wasting my money on silly statues, but I bought them anyway.
My Zen calendar advises me to, "perform every act in your life as if it were your last". Hmmmm. Live for the moment, in a wordier guise.
Does anyone know why when you take an apparently liquid bottle of pop out of a really cold fridge, sometimes it freezes after it is opened? Is this somehow related to the fact that there is liquid water on Saturn's moon, Titan, even though it is so very far away from the heat of the sun?
Did anyone else know that there are continents on Venus? There are two, Ishtar and Aphrodite. And "Mission to Mars" was wrong, you can't see Olympus Mons from Cydonia...
Sometimes I wonder why I am in music and not Useless Facts 101.
Does anyone know when Princess Mononoke is coming out on video so *I* can get a copy? I loved that movie a whole lot.
**** end sad words and lost memories*****

wow, do I EVER feel like a downer... I seem to be using the comment room to rant far too much, I am sorry.

In conclusion, everyone should gather together in the CR and have a big massage chain, then just sit together quietly and remember what it is like to breathe.

N.
Nadia Komarov
Monday, October 2, 2000 11:38:27 PM
IP: dynrez216-3267.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

I got to play with a sixteen year old dial-a-resistor today. Almost makes up for the frustration with Spice.

Mary Flanders/Niamhgold/Winterwolf> <<you do in fact have a dirty mind>>: What, just because I've expressed knowledge of hentai manga on at least three separate occasions, take pains to have a freudian interpretation of many things said, and see innuendo where there was none, that gives me a dirty mind? Well, yes it does, but I really need a woman. And that probably won't happen while I'm an engineer.

Winterwolf> <<I can't believe what people throw away!>>: I'm surprised no one has gone for the sanity collection.

Selanit> <<Mihoshi took out Mitori with an antimattter bullet thing>>: I thought Yugi just "dismissed" her.
<<there is a flash of light, temporarily blinding the camera>>: During which Tenchi slaps her. You did catch her holding her bruised cheek?

Traveler> <<Awww… $*@#, not him… not again…>>: I do believe that would be said about me in many situations (see previous MF/Ng/Ww business).
<<The dust clears further revealing TRAVELER!>>: Woohah. Welcome back.
<<So pick me up a leather jacket>>: I could say something here, but I probably shouldn't.
<<I remember the days of Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant>>: Anone want a peanut?
<<I prefer to bar-be-que…>>: But one such approach does not always work with elemental based creatures. I suggest liberal application of the battle axe, followed by a nice long marinade, concluded with the barbecue.
<<I would keep an eye on when Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber are going to be released…>>: And buy them a new rattle as a nice gift. Sorry, Gardner/Dodgson(Carroll) obsession breaking through.
<<What separates a hack fantasy novel from Tolkien?>>: Execution? And that probably works with both definitions.
<<another Penny Arcade follower>>: Well, yes, but that is a complettely separate issue. I blame the Big Bopper more, but Gabe and his Diablo II probably influenced my non-platonic relationship with my network. And I doubt you'll see me talking about wangs much. The socall Wengs are a different matter entirely.

Fire Storm> <<it sounds like you have done this before>>: Sorry, just saw it on the engineering department tours that were required for Into to Engineering. I mostly forget which department, but I'm thinking Mechanical. And I know a few MechEs.
<<Wanna help me make one?>>: Could you give me the time to learn what my job will actually be?
<<Hey Vern, why do those electronics students keep taking cows?>>: "I don't know Clem, but as long as they stay away from the sheep I'll be happy." And I'm sure we'd keep away from the cow with the window in its stomach, because that is an institution.

DPH> <<I did not know that X-FILES reference>>: Nor did I, I just spent some time searching quoes databases.
<<I successfully merged two Tyco electric race car sets into one big long track>>: That would be CivE work there.

Mandolin> <<twin brother, Kelly, will be guest starring as a doppleganger>>: Oh, sure, take the easy way out.

Dame Corax> <<Anyone for Calculus homework?>>: Sorry, I'm glad to have gotten out of it, but Principles adn the labs make up for it (and I've heard horror stories of Fourrier transforms).
<<the other students talk about how well they know theories, when they've never seen real life>>: But you need to start small to understand all of what's going on in a car. Especially with the material failure stuff.
<<I'm taking an American Indian studies class>>: As an engineer? You sure you're ready for this?

Warpmind> << if *I* can magically come upon the means to get to a Gathering, I'm pretty damn sure you can, too>>: But the main problem is that I really do need to put an internship at the top of my list.
<<In the case of female roomies, we may bite, if properly invited to do so>>: Apparently, not only do I have a dirty mind, I am a corrupting influence, too. Or maybe it could just be blamed on the Y.
Did you say something about an mp3?

Daphne> <<Yuck, typo>>: Are you sure you're ready to be an editor? Actually, you probably are, and I just wanted to get off a semi-witty comment.

Kyryn> <<and a few headaches>>: And of those was mine.

Mandolin> <<women in technology>>: Ada Lovelace: first programmer. Admiral Grace Hopper: found the first bug, invented COBOL.

Best wishes for SOROW and Infinity.

Still more work for me, but I felt like taking a break.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, October 2, 2000 11:35:37 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

***Kyryn steps in. Well, since some folks are feeling a bit down, how about a new episode of Pendragon?***

Gentlebeings,

TGS now presents this week's episode of Pendragon:

On Holiday, Pt.2

Written by Christi Smith Hayden

Artwork by Christi Smith Hayden

And the adventure continues....

***Kyryn runs over and hugs SOROW, then ducks aside to avoid the stampede to read the new episode.***
Kyryn - [<<---clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Monday, October 2, 2000 11:02:40 PM
IP: denm1-19.iglobal.net

AACK! Apologies for the double post ... the Pontiac W-body car is the Grand *Prix*, not the Grand Am!!
Coyote again
Monday, October 2, 2000 10:59:03 PM
IP: 216.28.101.113

**enters and joins in the group hug with SOROW, Infinity, Bronx, Winterwolf and Joxter** Think I'll jump in on this, I could use one too ...

Anyhoo ...

Warpmind, re: article: What a gross misinterpretation of that law! Here's the way I see sexual harassment ... it's not harassment based on sex, it's harassment that's sexual in nature and still about the same damned thing ... *power,* plain and simple.

Winterwolf: The Project Leader thinks that Bob Smith is gunning for his job and wants him the hell out of his department, so he wants him promoted ... somewhere else.

Traveler: Nice to see ya again, buddy. Oh ... you reminded me ... **whips out his black leather duster from his Xanatos costume** I've started wearing this thing regularly ... I kinda like it. It's already had its baptism of fire (a close encounter with a freshly-painted white doorframe at the store), but at least the mess came off. :)

Milady Dame Corax: That's the way to teach those guys! Lemme let everyone here in on a little advice ... if you're gonna become an automotive engineer, make sure you know how to make a car work *logically* before you get in the field. The world does *not* need another General Motors W-body!!
And for some explanation, here's Professor Throttlebody. **pus on some glasses and a white coat**
**ahem** The GM W-body is a chassis frame which encompasses a number of GM's more popular models, among these being the Pontiac Grand Am, the Oldsmobile Cutlass, the Buick Century, and the Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala (and previously the Lumina). The design of these vehicles is so bass-ackwards that no do-it-yourselfer in his right mind can even work on them. Some examples of this being ... the alternator is positioned *below* the engine, so far down you are almost forced to put the car on a lift to get to it should it fail (and it fails rather quickly); the battery is underneath a hood support crossmember and the washer fluid reservoir, and under normal circumstances is inaccessible; the front brake caliper frames are positioned so that you are forced to remove them in order to remove the brake rotors, and to do *that* you have to undo two star-socket-head bolts which strip if you breathe on them wrong. In other words, the engineer of the GM W-body had no idea what working on a car entails when he designed the vehicle, making it a DIY nightmare. Therefore, should anyone ever encounter said engineer, please give them a swift kick to the joy department for every mechanic who's ever been forced to deal with his lack of reality.
**removes the glasses and lab coat**

Sorry 'bout that ... rant ... oopsie ...
Anyhoo, milady, great to hear how you're teaching those engineer-type folks a little reality! You may think it's hell, but that'll put you in heaven in *my* book. ;)

(Incidentally, yes I'm in a very silly mood, why d'ye ask? :)

Anyhoo, that's all for me tonight ... **goes back into the hug**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 2, 2000 10:54:23 PM
IP: 216.28.101.113

**Winterwolf rushes in to give SOROW a big hug**

Don't worry! We all care and it will get better! I want you to be better! **More Hugz**

Real post later. SOROW getting a hug was too important!
Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, October 2, 2000 10:42:18 PM
IP: 1cust193.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net

*comes foward, hugging Sorow and Infinity*
It will get better.. I promise.
Bronx
Monday, October 2, 2000 09:58:56 PM
IP: spider-tj062.proxy.aol.com

sigh.

Sorrow isn't the only one that's had a rough night. I could use some good vibes myself.

walks over gives Sorrow a huge embrace and whips out two foaming mugs of root-beer.
the ever -lurking Infinity
Monday, October 2, 2000 09:46:16 PM
IP: nltc-57-17.nltc.net

Sorow- <hugs>
Joxter
Monday, October 2, 2000 09:11:34 PM
IP: spider-wq043.proxy.aol.com

I feel absolutely terrible right now! I had a wonderful day at school (the first in a long time) and it was just ruined by my mom yelling at me for something my dad did. It wasn't even my fault! I need a hug. *opens arms hoping someone will forward*
SOROW
Monday, October 2, 2000 08:57:57 PM
IP: a020-0836.dll2.splitrock.net

You know, I should probably haul ass to the library and scrounge up some info for my research paper on women in technology... but screw that, I've got a week and a half.

IT stuff> Remember the rant I posted yesterday? Well, my sentiments about the administration in general still hold - with the exception of the IT department. They restored all the dead accounts by 2 pm today. So DC won't be getting any more abuse from me. :)

Gside> We'll miss you, but since assignments and RL have forced me to lurk for long periods of time, I understand. <<Why can't it work like it shows in the manual? >> Because that would make SENSE! :)

RU-486> Funny, we just discussed that in Honors Sem today... while I despise the way the class is (not) organized in terms of assignments, we get into some good discussions there. I'm pro-choice, but the idea of RU-486 doesn't sit well with me. Taking a pill to induce abortion seems a hell of a lot more dangerous than just having the abortion done at a clinic. <<WHY THE HELL DID THE FDA APPROVE RU-486?!?!??? >> Money, probably. That's what these stupid decisions boil down to. But now the FDA is turning around and starting to place heavy restrictions on it. I don't know.

Warpmind re: the Associated Press article> **smacks self** I can NOT believe that. I *so* can not believe that. I suppose we'd have to know more details about the case to see how discrimination could have become the issue... but harassment is harassment, period, and that ruling just sounds idiotic. (I forwarded the link to my Honors prof, since we discussed discrimination and the Equal Rights Amendment today. Wish I'd seen that article before I went to class.)

Daphne> Congratulations! Yes, it is a tough job... but it's rewarding, too.

Other stuff> Saw "Princess Mononoke" for the first time this weekend. Man, was I ever impressed. Real shame it never played in a theater near me... I lent the video to my friend Jen the anime nut, and now she wants to buy a copy of the tape. And of course, the minute Keith David's opening narration blared out of my TV speakers, I had a major Gargoyles flashback. :)

Speaking of Jen, I have a shameless plug... clickie my name to check out her art gallery. Why should anyone here care? Well, the link in question is to her archive of "Spirit Spork" comics she writes for Hood's newspaper (named in honor of that huge pink plastic Spirit Spoon the dorms compete for every year), and the one about "Maryland Weather" kind of epitomizes my feelings about the weather around here. Just go check it out if you have the time.
Mandolin - [<-- clickie!]
Monday, October 2, 2000 07:21:13 PM
IP: 144.175.21.16

**RP RELATED**
Ok, this is bit overdue. you, the reader, might wonder how do I keep up with a certain character in the BFTS RP. One solution: the BFTS RP archive. When I update the archive, I keep the poster's color the same in the archive as in the room. So all of the BFTS RP that I have written would be in Kentucky Bluegrass. All one would have to do is know the color of the person who usually writes with a given character, and scan the archive for that color.

Any suggestions for how to make the archive better are appreciated.
**END RP RELATED**

No BFTS RP from me for today for various undeclared reasons.

11 more days until bad luck day. How many days are left in this year?
DPH - [<--click to read the BFTS RP archive]
AR, USA
Monday, October 2, 2000 06:45:43 PM
IP: max1-64.cwy.cei.net

I just read Warpmind link about the case and that's pretty damn stupid. Harrasment is harrasment. It shouldn't be any different if a little green man with undefined sexual oriantation did the same thing.
Some people just have to experience certain things to understand them I guess.
Revel
Monday, October 2, 2000 05:49:02 PM
IP: spider-tn064.proxy.aol.com

Just some quick replies

Kyryn- Got it thanks.

Warpmind-Hehe, you're always one step ahead of me.

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, October 2, 2000 05:41:32 PM
IP: spider-tn064.proxy.aol.com

ARRRG! This is starting to get *Very* frustrating. I just spent half an hour typing a post and then *blam!* disconnected. And last time it was after doing a post for an hour and a half... I would just type up my comments in notepad then cut and paste them, except my computers have a wierd quirk that doesn't allow me to cut and paste into the CR... I'd kill DC if I thought I had the time...

Oh well, in brief...

WB Cartoons- All in all, I like the current Saturday lineup. The friday lineup sucks tho. Jackie Chan Adventures are quite fun, despite the weak main plot. (Its Jackie Chan action and comedy, which is what matters. Jackie Chan movies have never really been about plot...)

Blue Submarine 6- SHould be interesting to see Cartoon Network airing that little mini-series. I'm still dreading the english version of Gundam WIng: Endless Waltz tho. I sat through the Japanese version and that was bad enough...

Winterwolf- The way it works out is every other line is the *real* message. Bob is looking over the project head's shoulder as he writes the message, and the project head thinks Bob can be dispensed with.

Traveler- WB! But... Your post was less than 30 screens...

Current Pendragon episodes- All I can say is that some of the compliments and complaints being made about recent episodes were already in consideration months ago and are being touched upon in the main cycle... Hee hee...

Bronx- Cybersix is Canadian produced. And being horribly edited here.

Tenchi series- The official rumor is that the third OVA series is going to pick up where the first one left off, and finally resolve some of the loose threads.

SJ- Trust me, Endless Waltz unless it gets edited UP in quality, is horrible. The villain is horrific, the continuity is off, Relina is even more, uh... Relinia-ish than before, Deo changes his outfit a bit, and there isn't even that much "giant fighting robots". The new Gundams don't even come in until the last 8 minutes... Oh well, its good for a mistie session...

And yes, despite my better judgement, I'm gonna see the Digimon movie this weekend... Hey, at least it's PG, that seems to indicate SOMETHING about the content!

I would comment more in depth but I've been trying to do this RP for a week now and don't want the comp to crash again...
**RP**

Jim and Black Tiger stood at the front door of the local driving license authorization place, not wanting to participate in the time filler storyline about to take place prior to the battle with the remaining members of the Ten. They both looked at Kitty.
"Do we have to do this? The world is gonna end in a week..."
"I intend for it not to. SO you're going to get your licenses now. You're both way past due."
Jim moaned. "But what's the point? I can run at super fast speeds without tiring and stuff..."
"DO IT." Kitty growled, magic flame eminating. Both JIm and BT went in to get their licenses.

A few minutes later, Black Tiger was done with the written portion of the test, but Jim was having a slight problem that his unnatural smoothness could not get past.
"Kitty, I need help."
"Bro, I'm not going to help you cheat."
"It's just one question."
Kitty sighed. "All right. It's spelled J-I-M space N-O-Y-I-N-G."
"No, that's not it. WHat does a yellow light mean?"
Kitty Noying sighed again. "Slow down."
"What does... a... yellow light... mean?"
Kitty flinched in disbelief. "Slow down."
Jim, clearly and calmly looked at her. "What... does... a... yellow... light... mean?"
Katherine Noying grimaced and whispered harshly. "Slow down!"
Jim tried again. "Whaaaat.... dooooeees... aaaa.... yeeee...llooooow.... liiiiiight.... meeeeean?"
Kitty almost yelled. "SLOW DOWN!"
"Whaaaaaaaat......"

And so it went.
Robby
Monday, October 2, 2000 05:23:07 PM
IP: spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com

***Kyryn steps in for a moment.***

Daphne> Good Luck! Being an editor is a juggling act between deadlines, the rules of the English language, and your writers' egos. However, I must say that so far I've had a lot of fun (and a few headaches) editing for TGS.

Mandi> I feel for ya!

Revel> Check your email. If you didn't get anything, you can reach me at my secondary email address below.

Later All!

***Kyryn steps back out.***
Kyryn - [kyrynsan@hotmail.com]
Denton, TX
Monday, October 2, 2000 05:21:13 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Daphne> There's nothing like writing under a deadline to improve writing skills. Just writing for TGs I went from wordsmith to taleweaver almost breaking into mythwrighting. My goal is to be a loremaster. (My megalomanical goal is to write the story that will outsell the Bible. If your going for delusions of granduer go for the really satisfying ones)

Good luck on your endeavor. As Mandi, Christine or Kyryn can testify it's not always easy, but it is satisfying.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Monday, October 2, 2000 05:11:43 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

Yuck, typo. I mean my wordsmith status.
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith
Monday, October 2, 2000 03:29:44 PM
IP: 207.224.2.81

well, I may be approaching a promotion in my wordsmith! My english teacher (yes, the same on I told you guys about!) actually asked me to be the editor of the school's literary magazine! all I have time to say now.

happiness!
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith
Monday, October 2, 2000 03:29:11 PM
IP: 207.224.2.81

I just found this... you might want to look at it. Guys, we gotta be careful around Mara from now on. ;)
Warpmind de InzanE
Monday, October 2, 2000 02:12:48 PM
IP: mp-217-214-131.daxnet.no

*Warpmind enters, smelling quite perceptibly of cigars and Scotch.*
Well, then I'm back... it was a most thoroughly interesting event altogether - many things were discussed in depth, such as means of working on empathic skills, trying to learn to NOT take everything literally, and the most interesting of all: we had a Grandmaster of chess lecturing about the importance of physical fitness for demanding mental work. All in all, a worthwhile weekend. :)

Fire Storm: Ten dozen wild horses couldn't keep me away from G2001. A certain blue-skinned lady with a big gun, on the other hand, might have a chance... ;) Oh, and the *chosen* king of Norway has been dead for quite some time now. It's his *grandson* that is the current king...

Gside: Amigo, if *I* can magically come upon the means to get to a Gathering, I'm pretty damn sure you can, too. :) Start greasing the cogs now, and you may be well prepared. ;)

Doug: Well, my Barbarian is fun, too... AND those damn braindead skeletons aren't around to block my escape route anymore, either... :)

Selanit: OH! OH! OH! Phoenix Gate replicas! Want one! Wa... waitasecond... those don't work, do they? Never mind, then. ;)

Tim P.: They couldn't replicate the gun from Aliens, simply because it's already on the market, and, as far as I know, copyrighted. (www.scifireplicas.com is the place, I think.)

Winterwolf: I'd make another pun on the horse subject, but I'd be risking to severely violate the CR regulations... ;)

Revel: Allow me to make a smlal adjustment to your roomie offer there: in the case of male roomies, we won't bite. In the case of female roomies, we may bite, if properly invited to do so. ;)

Lady Arianna: Heh, I'll be damned... I can't recall seeing you around here back then... then again, my mind is a sieve... :|

Shogun Raptor: You're gonna write "Armadillos" episodes? Awesome! Let me know when they're ready! :)

Traveler: The bomb ride... Dr. Strangelove, right? :)

Katara: The Gathering will be memorable, no doubt. :)

Observation: Have you guys ever come across an accounting program that uses ".DCT" files? I saw one this weekend... for some reason, I can't bring myself to trust that one... :|

Gotta be running. Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, October 2, 2000 01:49:26 PM
IP: mp-217-212-196.daxnet.no

Quick post, but I was wondering...

Does anyone know where I could find info about reactions to Yahoo! acquiring SimpleNet? I ask because if I want to retain my web account, I not only have to pay with my credit card, they require that I let them STORE MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER in Yahoo! Wallet. My response: Hell no! That just doesn't sound legal to me. Or safe, no matter what they say in their Privacy Policy. Anyone know if there's a site about this?
Mandolin
Monday, October 2, 2000 11:20:44 AM
IP: 144.175.21.16

It's been a while since I've been in here! Damn real life (by which I mean Masters Degree and Jobhunting) for getting in the way! :-) Anyway, it might be a little late to say anything about the current TGS episode but I'll throw in something short:


**SPOILERS/COMMENTS ON CURRENT PENDRAGON EPISODE**

As usual TGS is putting out quality work. And as my interest in PENDRAGON is primarily in the London Clan and not so much on Arthur, the fact that most of this focused on them only increased my pleasure reading it. I won't go into all the good points that are here (it would take too much time that I don't really have - and besides, its probably already been mentioned repeatedly in the last week anyway) but there are many of them:

Seeing more children around the London Clan than just Lucy - very realistic and a major difference between them and the Manhattan Clan. It was a little confusing though - maybe it would be a better idea to introduce fewer characters next time or bring them in one at a time - just skimming through this, the flurry of new names threw me off a bit.

Caspain and Rosalind - Great to see some time spent on them here. And its good to see a more realistic relationship instead of the Broadway/Angela entity that's developed in Main TGS. I hope that this gets dragged out a bit - everyone in TGS seems to be getting married and it would be nice if there weren't immediate acceptances across the board. I'd like to see Rosalind say that she's not ready for it or for the both of them to have a short break-up or something like that. (It's also nice to see some jealousy and some conflict - another thing the Manhattan Clan is a little short on now due to simple lack of numbers and the fact that most of them are married or in stable relationships.)

Brianna and Jane - I like that Michael brought this up. I've only really skimmed the previous episodes so I might not be up on all the exact details of their new friendship, but it seems to me like Brianna was one of the few Gargoyles in PENDRAGON who had a dislike for Humans and so to fix this and prove her wrong, she had to be given a human friend. (Yeah, I know that the whole Caledonian Clan isn't fond of Humans but they don't show up all the time while Brianna does.) I like that Michael is suspicious - as leader of a hiding clan, he should be wary about all outside contact. And I hope that this relationship is being set up for some kind of fall for Brianna - I gather that Jane is tied up to something that's not exactly kosher and while she doesn't really have a clue about it, it might lead to trouble later on for the London Clan. (There should be some Gargoyles who aren't that happy with Humans and who are uncomfortable with Humans. Brianna was a great example of this before - she didn't hate anyone, its just she looked at them the same way Humans look at Gargoyles. Eliminating that is something I regret a bit. She should retain some of that old attitude. Why does every Gargoyle have to like and be friends with Humans? Why should Demona be the lone Gargoyle to hate/fear Humanity?)

I like that the Caledonian clan is on the verge of being discovered. It's a good drawback to the new contacts with London and could lead to some interesting diplomacy between the Caledonians and London.

Caspian and Lance - It is interesting to put a connection between the two; it helps to illustrate the effects of the Unseelie War on the London Clan. But while its good, it really feels like a huge retcon. And this isn't the fault of this story but of the fact that nothing has been said or hinted in this direction until now. I know PENDRAGON got the short end of the stick in Season 2 and there wasn't that much time to do anything but this wasn't even mentioned in the aftermath episode of S2 - everyone was happy that they won and mildly sad but not terribly upset that they lost some members. Now suddenly this shows up - while it makes for some interesting stories now, it really could have used some development rather than just jumping up right now out of the blue.

As for the Travelling Pendragon Crew - Arthur, Mary, and Merlin - I hope that they don't really completely hook up with the London Clan again. They shouldn't be able to stay in London and having them travel allows for us to have a greater light on the home London team as well as see more of Gargoyle Universe Europe. (As for Mary, I find her situation interesting. A reverse Werewolf - I'll have to find the time to go back and read more in depth her introductory story.)

**END OF COMMENTS/SPOILERS ON CURRENT PENDRAGON EPISODE**


**TENCHI IN TOKYO COMMENTS/SPOILERS**

I see that this came up somewhere along the line so I thought I'd throw my two cents in on it. Tenchi in Tokyo is probably the more inferior of the three existing Tenchi series. But on its own, Tenchi in Tokyo isn't so bad. (Kind of like how TGC is good if you don't look at the other two seasons.)

I did like the ending very much - very emotional and a very unorthodox way of dealing with the villain. But Yugi after all wasn't some adult with evil plans - she was a incredibly powerful and horribly mistreated child. The solution that Tenchi came up with was a good one. (It wouldn't have worked in real life but this was an overly comical anime. I know that's not much of an excuse but I did really like the last episode - Yugi really came through as a child with too much power. When her plan fell apart she reacted as a child, as someone who has no experience and who was consumed by fear of being killed, of being locked in the dark again. And Tenchi came through as someone who's usually dense but was able to reach out and offer help to someone in pain.)

All in all Tenchi In Tokyo isn't bad if you look at it as simply being a story about Tenchi. He was the central figure here instead of just being on the sidelines like in the other two series. He left and he moved on - the key word being that HE did something. (It also helps to see this as a Ryoko/Tenchi story. Ayeka barely comes up and that's mainly to fight with Ryoko. If this story was about anyone, it was about the two of them. And being a Ryoko/Tenchi fan and looking at things this way, makes it a little more bearable a series, although not the best in the world.

(By the way, I have heard that they are working on a 3rd OVA series and that it should be out in Summer 2001. But that's really just a rumour - I haven't been able to really get that much conformation on it.)

**END OF TENCHI IN TOKYO COMMENTS/SPOILERS**
Airwalker
Brooklyn, NY
Monday, October 2, 2000 10:53:46 AM
IP: proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu

*Katara happily strolls into the CR with Canyon at her side*

Got some good news at work today. As of Oct. 4, we are FINALLY moving to our new call center location. Rumors on the move first started popping up back in about March. We finally got confirmation on a new site in early May. The new site is about 3 miles away from the current location and we were SUPPOSED to move in at the end of July. Well, that move got bumped to mid-August, then end of August. Then we were told 18 Sept, then 27 Sept. Finally they just said, date to be announced soon. There were all sorts of "technical difficults" in switching over all the carriers. Well, Friday there was an open house at the new place, and man it's BEAUTIFUL!!! I guess Saturday they finally got a FIRM date for us to start taking live calls, either late Oct 3 or on Oct 4. YIPPPEEE!!! me so haaaaaaaaapy!!!

Warpmind>...EXCELLENT!! looking forward to seeing you next summer!

Doug>...thanks for including me in your well wishes. Glad to hear that things are going well for you and Kit. I'll also be saying a prayer for your friend.

SJ>...thanks for the anime news updates. I'll be looking forward to seeing Endless Waltz as well as Blue Submarine.

Well, that's it for now. almost midnight local time. gonna finish watching US Marshalls on TV, and then go to bed. Only 3 more days till I get to report to new call center! :)
Katara - [garglover66f]
San Diego, CA
Monday, October 2, 2000 02:46:00 AM
IP: acab1653.ipt.aol.com

Whooaa!!
Seems I've been heavily misinformed!! Proof you gotta luk into things urself...

Volunteers needed- ....We are particularly interested in identifying prospective subjects who have used significant amounts of MDMA but have relatively little experience with other drugs. Our subjects will need to be between the ages of 21 and 65, be in good medical and psychiatric health and have had prior first hand experience with the self administration of MDMA. Anyone interested in participating in these studies can call our research coordinator, Carla Edwards, at (310) 222-1663.

Can we say F**K YES?!?!!!
Thank god for UCLA!!! I'm gonna try!! :o)~~
Seriously.., I'm not sure if this is still active, only one way to know...
JacKaL
Monday, October 2, 2000 01:51:37 AM
IP: aca09680.ipt.aol.com

Just a note that I may or may not get to post in the near future. I have lab reports and much homework due during the week. And OrCAD Capture does not have the PSpice menu, so I can't simulate the circuites they mant me to. Why can't it work like it shows in the manual?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, October 2, 2000 12:59:21 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Awww!!!! Cheers to Sorow!!! YaY!!!

Well, I quit drinkin so..., I'll clap for ya, anyway. :op
~~trys to quit~~

Baby news- 30 weeks, official stuff says- baby is very aware of the surroundings. We tend to think of the uterus as a dark place. The uterus actually can be light and dark depending on the mother's environment. You may be able to distinguish sleep and wake cycles in your baby. If you are having Braxton Hicks Contractions...., know that they are a sign that your body is getting ready for labor. The baby notices the contractions, but is not adversely affected by them. Your sweetpea weighs a whopping 3 pounds (1.36 kilograms)! S/he measures about 14.8 inches (37.5 cms) in length.

Birthing Classes- I don't care what birthing class says..., children respond to outside "stimulation"! We had our 1st class tonight, and GOD did I feel stupid in there. But I kept my mouth shut and listened like a gud lil boy! At one point we were seperated in groups, "mommys here, daddy's ~supporters~ there", and each group had to say what they liked and disliked about the pregnancy. Well, that was f**kin fun!!! After next week, I don't wanna go back. On the plus side, after hearing it out of this class, the mother, now, wants to totally quit smoking. Let's hope she can.


RU-486 approved by FDA- "More than 2,000 women have taken the medication in the U.S. as part of its clinical testing."

Now see, this is shyt I was just talking about the other night! WTF?!?! Now how do you test this? "ok, you go get pregnant and come back in 6 weeks, we'll see if this shyt works!" Now I have nothing against abortion, I dunno how many of you have heard Dr. Drew talk about this, that there's this pill..., I don't remember the name, but it's "the morning after pill", if you think you might be pregnant, you take the pill and it prevents a pregnancy from occurring, it's NOT an abortion pill! And it's just as effective.

So, in that case... WHY THE HELL DID THE FDA APPROVE RU-486?!?!???
That was such a retarded ass idea on sumbody's part!!
This is why I'm upset..., ok, you wanna abort ur child, fine, I can dig it, let the force be with you, drill his brains out, rip him apart, whatever. **Face it, that's the reality!**
My view here is against the FDA, why approve a pill that we already have an alternative to in this country (usa- for those of you not here). I mean, Am I missing sumthing?!!

Approve Ecstasy ok?!?! Sumthing we can REALLY use!!!! F**kin Freaks!
jackal
Monday, October 2, 2000 12:49:51 AM
IP: aca09680.ipt.aol.com

**The Dame drags a heavy backpack into the room, dropping it in the middle of the CR with a thud.** There! Anyone for Calculus homework? :)

Engineering> Hey, that's my current major! :) Don't know if it'll last, though...I'm getting good grades in the class, but I hate working in teams and I hate how the other students talk about how well they know theories, when they've never seen real life...(I argue with them all the time about cars. I like to work on 'em, they theorize about em. And they can't tell ya for the life of 'em where the distributor is. Best part is when you ask 'em where the distributor is on a newer car that doesn't have a distributor...oh, wait...I'm going to hell, aren't I? :)

Case in point...our last project was to build a catapult that would shoot something accurately so it'd hit a target so many meters away. Well, by golly, I had that catapult hitting that target 10 out of 10 shots quite a few times in a row, despite the fact that my group members wanted to do all kinds of weird tricks to the poor catapult that would make it more liable to screw up. I eventually won out, and our group crushed the opposition in the accuracy contest. :) The group still hates me, though.

Now for something non-engineering related> Okay, I think I've had too much tea again, because I'm getting silly...I actually have a stuffed Pikachu doll in my room, and while I was watching my tapes of Pokemon episodes, I actually pulled his ears back in a scrunchie. He looked kinda cool. Almost like "gangbanger 'Chu" or something. By the way...what's up with Jesse and James? Anyone else think they've fallen into a character rut again? I could sure use another "Holy Matrimony" episode... (J&J are my favorites, if ya didn't know)

Wilek> Good to see ya around again! **waves** :)

Lady Arianna> Glad to see ya! Good luck with your college stuff. I'm just starting college also, so I know exactly how you feel. :)

Coyote> Hey! **waves** :)

How Gargoyles helped me pass my midterm> Okay, this is really cool...I'm taking an American Indian studies class, and our midterm was to write an essay about how American Indians are portrayed in contemporary media. Well, I contrasted certain stereotyped shows with how the Hopi and Haida peoples were represented in Gargoyles! It gave me a great excuse to watch some episodes again, and it also got me an A. Thanks, Gargoyles!!! :)

Well, I'd better get going now...so much homework, such little time. Plus I can tell I'm getting awfully silly. Hope I didn't just scare anyone! :) See y'all later.

**The Dame drags her backpack out of the room, mumbling something about 'stupid derivatives'...**
Dame Corax
Monday, October 2, 2000 12:44:23 AM
IP: guilder.telcom.arizona.edu

Quick post!

SOROW: And Big Sisters!! Don't forget us! :) Seriously, we were glad to have done all that we have so far and hope to be able to continue. You're welcome, and thank you for the opportunities. :)

Traveler: I'd say welcome back, but somehow I doubt your identity. That post wasn't nearly as long as Traveler used to send in. There wasn't any RP either, and I always enjoyed Traveler's lunatic RPs. The color and pic are the same, some things about the attitude are similar, but I don't know... Tell you what, why don't you prove your identity? What did Traveler always say about dragons? (Yes, I am just kidding. :) I just want to hear you say it again. <grin> Welcome back, old and crazy friend. :)

More in a couple nights, gotta go!
Kit
Monday, October 2, 2000 12:42:32 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.26.dlls.grid.net

Hi Guys
Long time no see!
I hope all of you have been well!
I promise I am back to posting daily again!
Toodles!
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 2, 2000 12:04:32 AM
IP: 216.117.75.74

Today was my mother's 47th birthday. Right now she and everyone else are about 300 miles south from here. I couldn't give here a present in the traditional sense so I had several of the the guys and girls on my wing help me sing happy birthday in the most off key manner that has touched human (or equivelant) ears. Anyhow, she got a kick out of it and everyone was happy.

Sorrow- Wow I don't remember the exact day I started posting here, but I do know I first started reading TGS about a year ago now. My first CR post was probably a month or so later.
Kyryn- can I have your e-mail address? I wanted to ask you something.

Well that's it for now I suppose. Back to the notebooks.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, October 1, 2000 08:56:23 PM
IP: spider-tf024.proxy.aol.com

Sabledrake update > the new issue should be posted sometime tomorrow but probably not until late; we have had some late entries come in and I'm working overtime this week (16 hours at time and a half, hot damn!). LOTS of great stuff this time! Thank you to all who contributed! The theme for the next issue, November, will be "families."

Daniel > I am glad to hear you've had some luck battling depression. I agree, it is often overlooked and people think they can just cheer up and get over it, but that's not always the case. It's a miserable condition, and when it's still regarded by many as a personal failing, it's even harder for those suffering from it. I have gone through periodic bouts of it myself, and the last (year ago last March) was finally enough to drive me to seek medical help. Better living through chemistry, as our nursing supervisor used to say.

Winterwolf > YES send me feedback! Please please! I am a total glutton for feedback! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 08:33:41 PM
IP: 16-160.009.popsite.net

Ok, just in case anyone wasn't absolutely sure my school is completely insane (is "insane school" redendant?) here's a fact for you: the homecoming dance this year is Friday the 13th... which happens to be the night before SATs. And this isn't the first time they've planned a major (ie Junior prom) dance the night before the SAT.

Interesting, isn't it?

Happiness!
Daphne, apprentice-wordsmith
Sunday, October 1, 2000 08:29:20 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.220.182.philadelphia1.level3.net

Two years ago today at 4:42 pm I posted for the very first time in this room. I want to thank all who have taken me under their wing, supported me, cheered me up when I have been sad, and have become my dear and loving friends. I am so happy to be a part of this group. I always feel welcome here and there is always someone who will listen (since there are few who will at home or school. I have posted in this room almost everyday for the past two years, and I just want to say...I love you guys. I especially want to thank all my big brothers, you know who you are :)
SOROW
Sunday, October 1, 2000 07:04:01 PM
IP: a010-0151.dll2.splitrock.net

**BEGIN DC DEATH!**

**Mandi storms in, looking pissed off. That, coupled with the fact that she's hefting a 9-iron, causes the CR regulars to clear away a path. She heads right for Mr. Dis Connect, pulls the 9-iron back in a perfect golf swing... and hits him where the sun don't shine. As he goes down, she clubs him in the head and shoves the body out the nearest window.**

Fore! ...See, that golf class I took freshman year was good for something.

**END DC DEATH!**

Okay... seeing how I NEVER do a DC death, I suppose I should take a moment to explain. To quote one of my favorite shows: "When it rains, it freakin' monsoons." The IT department at my school, fed up with the idiots who hit "Reply All" to all-campus e-mails this week and flooded everyone's boxes, decided to run a program to fix it. Instead, the program merrily ripped through the students mail server, deleting all the e-mail accounts from aa1 to jac2. And being alo1, I'm in that dead range. It could be worse - seems that it only stopped at jac2 because the owner of that account works for IT and reconfigured his account... and the changes in his account crashed the program and kept it from wiping out every student e-mail account. And they have backups of the accounts, so they can restore them.

However, this being the Year of Budget Cuts, I doubt that'll happen any time soon. So far, the new administration has done the following:

1) After a year of promising to renovate Shriner Hall after they shut it down, turned around in June and said it was going to sit there for about two years.
2) On a technicality, forced Mr. Duff, our incredibly competent, well-liked and well-respected head of campus security (how many colleges can say that?), to resign. I know this because I was outside the security office when it happened - that was Wednesday. They have yet to officially announce this to the student body.
3) Decided they needed to cut down work-study and consequently reduced the library hours to closing at 10 instead of midnight.
4) Didn't pay to renew the license for us to use InfoTrac for periodical research - and never told anyone, hoping we wouldn't notice. I have two research projects this semester; I sure as hell noticed.

Basically, students are last priority around here unless there's threat of a lawsuit. I understand that they have to make some major cuts - our former president screwed some things up - but I'd like some explanations.

Anyway... how is everyone? :)

Traveler> Welcome back! I would have gotten a cyber-cookie if I'd checked the CR earlier... **hands him an entire plate of them** ...but I've got enough to go around.

As for why we watch Buffy - I was rather disappointed with the season premiere; it was not up to the series' usual standard. Besides, the more amusing supporting cast - namely, Anya and the always-delightful James Marsters as Spike - had nothing to do in the episode. Fourth season didn't impress me as much as previous seasons have, and I think that's a consequence of Joss Whedon dividing his time between "Angel" as well as BtVS. But that season had its gems: I recommend "Fear, Itself," "The Initiative," "Something Blue" (which was just hysterical), "Hush," "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You" (the Faith two-parter), and "Restless" (a genuinely weird but still amusing dream episode).

While I'm on the subject of Buffy: Xander fans, check out the October 10th episode. Nicholas Brendon's twin brother, Kelly, will be guest starring as a doppleganger trying to take over Xander's life.

Niamhgold> I am so sorry. My Design I prof freshman year had no concept of time restrictions and had no idea how to explain what she wanted, so I feel your pain. She's been dubbed the "Art Nazi."

Okay, it's 6... must work on my Algorithms homework now. :)
Mandolin
Sunday, October 1, 2000 05:51:11 PM
IP: 144.175.21.16

hey, you New Yorkers sent a carpet bagger to my state several years ago and that person became governor of my state. fair is fair. what goes around comes around. take your medicine.

winterwolf - the project leader is clueless. that kind of person needs to do his own thing all day long.

Gside, 4 cybercookies are yours because I did not know that X-FILES reference. There is still a cybercookie waiting to be claimed. I will make it easier to identify the quote. "Now you know the".

My point is that insanity in equations is impossible if you stretch your imagination enough.

**ENGINEERING**
Yes, I did some 'engineering' something a few years ago. I successfully merged two Tyco electric race car sets into one big long track (with extra pieces that had been bought) into a small area. It took me about 2 hours to come up with the design to utilize the most space. There was not hardly any open space between the two tracks. The set was so long that we had to use BOTH powersupplies that came with the tracks to avoid dead spots.

My dad videotaped the entire length of the track. This year, I am going to try and tackle the same problem. I may buy another set just to make the problem of utilizing all of the track in as little space as possible harder. If I succeed, I will make take a photograph and upload the picture into my website.
**END ENGINEERING**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, October 1, 2000 03:45:34 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

DC wronged me again!
I can't get DSL where I live! :(

Gside: <Need any help with a control system>
Not yet. I probally won't do the heavy welding costumes for another year or two. But then...
<THREE DIMENSIONAL PRINTING>
Hmm... it sounds like you have done this before...
How much do you understand about how to get it to work?
Here's how much I know: The program converts the (X,Y,Z) plots from a DFX file (or whatever) into a series of lines and what not.
I understand WHAT to do and (basicailly) HOW to make it... I know how to make the most of the physical stuff (But I don't know exactly what type of laser is needed for stereolithography (polymer-laser) and I don't know how to make a polymer inkjet or metal injket) I just don't know jack about mechanical control systems and computer interface systems yet.
Wanna help me make one? Preferably that REALLY cool metal one. I know you have other things to do, so I am not saying right away.
Ya know... I do recall hearing of a ice 3d printer. Sounds cool.
<Cook College is a compus of Rutgers where we keep the livestock>
"Hey Vern, why do those electronics students keep taking cows?"

Selanit: <Who wants a copy of the Phoenix Medallion??>
Screw that! I want one of those printers!
From the sound of it, it is cheaper than a stereo lithograpy machine. Hmm...

Emambu: <Also, why can't they give the dog to you if they can't figure out what to do with it?>
<Sigh> I wish that was an option. She is used to a 100' by 100' yard full of grass. My backyard is about 30'-30', with a 20'-20' garage. She would be VERY unhappy. There is no room inside the house for a dog of her size (70 lbs).
Trust me, if it was an option, I would take it.
Hell... I MIGHT convince my parents to give me the house as long as I pay the bills and take care of the balance of their morgage... maybe.

Winterwolf: <but I'd love to hear what everyone thinks.>
Someone who is compotent is actually getting some respect?

Jaden/Traveler: <So pick me up a leather jacket>
Hell, pick us ALL up some nice full length leather trench coats! Black for me!
<Cyber-cookie to whoever can guess where the bomb riding bit was inspired by…>
Ahh... the origional bomb rider!
Man... I have GOT to see that movie one day!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 12:41:23 PM
IP: 07-132.008.popsite.net

** delurks**

Hello, All!

shogun yama - [shogun_yama@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 12:41:23 PM
IP: dialup-209.245.194.19.houston1.level3.net

Graymonk- Yup... you got it! *hands over the cyber-cookie*

Ohhhh.. wait I'm supposed to be sleeping... *runs away* AAHHHHAHHAAHHAHAHA!!!
Traveler - [traveler_45@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 09:26:54 AM
IP: proxy.buf.adelphia.net

Traveler-Re; the bomb bit-Doctor Strangelove?
Graymonk
Sunday, October 1, 2000 08:54:25 AM
IP: asy07.dial.upei.ca

Sevarious Jr. *twitches, looks around*: I sense a presence…. one I have not felt since… *smacks his forehead* Awww… $*@#, not him… not again…

*From inside the CR, the sound of a very large plane is heard overhead followed by a maniacal scream of "YYYAAAHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" and a high pitched whistling noise…. everyone runs from the center of the room just as a large object crashes through the roof and smashes halfway into the floor kicking up a huge dust cloud. Immediately the dust starts to settle and lodged into the floor is a VERY large bomb about 40feet long and 5feet in diameter, with "Ed Teller's Opus" scrawled on the side of it…. and someone holding a cowboy hat sitting on top if it. The figure jumps down, kicks the bomb and says: "Awww… dam it, another dud. Maybe we shouldn't have stopped underground testing… Oh well, at least it was a fun ride down!" *maniacal chuckle* The dust clears further revealing TRAVELER!!!*

Cyber-cookie to whoever can guess where the bomb riding bit was inspired by…. >=))

Well actually I'm more partial to durandal or mr_jinx and several variations nowadays but anyway >=)) LONG TIME NO SEE!!! to all of those here who remember me, and a big HELLO!!! *pulls a large wooden crate from inside his coat and drops it on the floor* and a complementary flame-thrower to the rest of you!! *picks one up and squeezes off a burst* heheheh *Yogart voice from Spaceballs* The kids love 'em! *looks around* well I haven't POSTED in here for quite some time… *snickers* RL has been so busy… and I just didn't really feel like posting here for a long time after the "little blowout"…. How about for old time's sake I go through some of the recent topics and add either my $0.05 and/or some hopefully witty, perhaps even funny commentary? Oh, and see how long I can get this sucker to be, too bad they fixed that one funny bug in the rooms' script so long ago… *evil grin* Let's begin, shall we?

Elections-
I'm a member of the "evil empire", and no not M$, though they are the "other" white meat so to speak…. so I'll leave it at that. Well, that and I'll probably go off my nut (totally) if the carpetbagger is elected here.>=P I live in NY state.

Jaden's in the ARMY now….- To sooth your fears, from what I've heard from a few friends in the military and other sources, like real live Koreans… Yes you'll have internet access, probably not as much as you'd like if they decide to keep you busy. That and high quality leather goods are REALLY cheap there. So pick me up a leather jacket. hehehehe…

The new Highlander movie- Haven't seen it yet, and we all know how screwed up the continuity is so….
Taleweaver- So you're going to be not only on national television, but on the best, and easily most respected game show IMHO?… Ask you're self this: If you end up in third place at the end of the show….can you REALLLLLLLY pass up the opportunity to burst into a rendition of "I lost on Jeopardy" by Weird "Al" Yankovic even if the studio audence sees/hears it because of time delay?
<<Washu putting the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle into a karaoke number was hilarious, but then again I dig quantum physics humor.>> Hey, who doesn't???

Drunken Master- Ohhh.. I've heard such wonderful reviews of this movie…. heheheh This is on my must see list…

Wraslin'- Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that "Professional Wrestling" over the past few years has… like… some machine originally set up by it's designers to perform a specific task, and do it well with a certain level of professionalism and dignity, then spontaneously mutates and for a time grows into something even better… but then it all goes horribly, horribly wrong as it grows so large so fast that in trying to keep up it's rate of grow lest it stagnate and die, it pays no mind to the fact that it has FAR exceeded what it was original purpose was, and in trying to be all things to all people, has lost most if not all of the former dignity and professionalism it once had?
I remember the days of Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, the Iron Sheik, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jake the Snake… etc. etc… Now that was the WWF in it's heyday… a simple evolution of the "Professional Wrestling" from the previous half century, where there were many decent sized "federations"…. before it was organized into one large group… the WWF… which then spawned several copycats and clones….

Hmmm…. is it just me, or are the parallels between this and the Linux community/OS just a TAD obvious? I mean, really… for those few of you’re here that have ever or currently do use a *NIX based OS, can you really see an AVERAGE person being able easily use Linux at home or in the office? (ALL techies excluded) We're talking the end users in management and all of the "normal" people out there. And if you say "yes", I seriously doubt you've ever worked Tech Support of any kind before… hehehe…

Ohhh… lookie! My mind spawned a mini-rant!

Don't mess with Stephen King….EVER!: Like anyone really needed someone to die under mysterious circumstances around him to be able to make that statement in the first place…. heheh…

Sevarious Jr.- <<Dungeons and Dragons: For those interested in the movie, it will be coming out on December 8th. It's got dragons, people. Dragons. That's worth the money alone!>> D@#( STRAIGHT!!! WWWOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!! DRAGONS!!!! <<Sean Connery as a dragon my ass>> *AHEM* I though civilization as a whole decided not to speak of that again??? hehehe….
Ahhhh… what the hell:
Dragons! Dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragon, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragon, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragons, dragon, dragons, and the DRAGON KING!!! Dragon King: TIMM-AY!!!

Tenchi in Tokyo: And this is the *OTHER* thing we all agreed never to speak of again…. *sigh*

Dreamie- << Pokemon: There's something about little furry animals that repeat their names over and over that just makes me want to take out a nice big battle axe and... well... nevermind ^_^>> Oh, you too? Though I prefer to bar-be-que… you should try it…. *tosses her a flame-thrower*

Mandolin- <<Maryland weather is nuts.>> Un-huh… try living next to one of the great lakes for a few years… *in a demonic voice* ~LaKE~effEcT~ WooOOhhOOOooo scary!

Fire Storm- I haven't seen a "Buffy " episode since the High School Graduation one… but on total chance I saw the entire season premier and you know what?
<<Stake, dust.
Smoke, he reforms.
Stake "I know your tricks. I've seen the movies," Dust
Smoke... "HEY! I am standing right here!" smoke goes away. moke, he reforms.>>

That was the only REALLY funny part in the entire episode… I still don't see the attraction to this show… Perhaps it's the entire season I've missed? >=]

Doug&Kit- hello, hello… so you're series is basically on hiatus? Hrmph…. well you kept asking for feedback, and the great majority of us reading apparently didn't send enough in to help keep your juices flowing… If you ever do decide to start it back up, try saying/inferring more through dialogue and less through… I *THINK* the term I'm looking for is exposition…? Though I could be thinking of some other term….
And I bet the two of you are really looking forward to winter break with all of the "fun" stuff that's been going on lately? Heh… Well to (blatantly) steal a phrase, at least you were able to get by with a little help from your friends. Though I would keep an eye on when Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber are going to be released…
Remember, being paranoid is simply knowing all of the facts. >=))
And why are you two trying to break the CR with those posts? You know they fixed that after…. heheheh…. >;))

Gside- <<What separates a clichéd character from an archetype?>> What separates a hack fantasy novel from Tolkien? Ok, that's a bit harsh… but it does get the idea I was shooting for across… << Niamhgold> <<winks at Gside>>: Oh yeah. That's what I'm talking about.>> Ahhh… another Penny Arcade follower…

Tim Phipps- << Sometime I fear for humanity.>> Only sometimes? You have seen Jay Leno's "Jay Walking" bits, haven't you?

Ok… I'm about to pass out from lack of sleep and I really don't feel like adding anything else. Also please forgive me if the formating is a bit odd, I typed this up in Word2000 then dispensed with a little cut & paste kung-fu. SEEYA!!!!!!!! *poofs out*

*coalesces from the shadows back into the room* Heh… almost forgot this… *grabs the bomb he rode in on and stuffs it under his duster* *melts into the floor*

*GONE*

Traveler - [traveler_45@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 08:25:20 AM
IP: proxy.buf.adelphia.net

James> <<Selanit> Wahhh I missed the episode. Please tell me Tenchi and Yugi's shadow (or her herself) will become couple again. That would be neat ^_^ >>

** Note: Tenchi summary follows, you have been warned. **

Um, it seems unlikely, but the possibility has been left open. Tenchi made his way to Yugi's domain in a fit of anger and guilt. She toyed with him, offering him a dream-world in which he and Sakuya might live forever together; but the scheme backfired when Sakuya departed from Yugi's script. She put her hands on Tenchi's shoulder and told him that their love was all she had needed, and that she no longer cared about having a past, or a future. Then she told him that he could not live on illusions, much though he'd like to, and faded out in a gentle shimmer.

Tenchi fell through the odd un-space that is Yugi's domain, passing shards of crystal on all sides, until Ryoko reached out and pulled him onto a firm platform. He was startled to see her, and even more surprised when Kyoni, Mihoshi, Ayeka, Sasami, and finally Washu showed up all of a sudden. (BTW, Ryoko killed Hotsuma in battle; Kyoni got the wizard-guy with the too-large shirt, and Mihoshi took out Mitori with an antimattter bullet thing). Washu explained that the crystals Tenchi had given them had called them all together, because that was where they needed and wanted to be.

With all of her minions dead, Yugi fled back towards the innermost area of her domain. Ryoko and Ayeka wanted to follow, but Tenchi demanded to be allowed to take care of her himself. He collected the crystals from them, and they formed his Sword of Light. Sasami said quietly to Tenchi, "She was my friend -- there is good in her, I know it. Please don't hurt her unless you have to." Tenchi nodded.

With the ladies clearing the path and watching his back, Tenchi ran into Yugi's central domain. She kept screaming and shouting, "Go away! Don't come near me! Just leave me alone!" It's tough to do it justice -- the actress really did a good job with Yugi's voice in that ep. There was real emotion in it.

As he approached Yugi, Tenchi raised the sword of light over his head; there is a flash of light, temporarily blinding the camera. When the scene clears, the sword is buried in the floor of Yugi's sanctum, and Tenchi is kneeling before her. He throws the metal cloak-thing that she was wearing away, and then hugs her close to him.

Yugi collapses against him, weeping. "Don't put me back in the dark alone," she begs him. "I was alone for so long, so long . . ."

"This isn't the way to go about ending your loneliness," he told her. "You should have just dropped by our place -- you could have stayed with us."

It was a really great scene, and I'm not describing it well. I hope you get to watch it at some point. Anyway, in the end Yugi undid what little damage she had caused, and returned home to Okayama with Tenchi, Ryoko, Washu, Ayeka, Sasami, Kyoni and Mihoshi. Ayeka and Ryoko continue fighting over Tenchi -- the routine settles back to normal, with one exception.

Every evening, Sasami goes into the cave near the household, and talks to her friend Yugi, who lies asleep in a strange coffin/stasis unit. Apparently, Yugi chose to sleep her life away until she has matured into an adult, at which time she will awaken and rejoin society.

Ryoko pointed out to Tenchi that if Sakuya was a shadow of Yugi, then when Yugi wakes up from her long slumber she might BE Sakuya, and asked what he would do. He said "Um, I hadn't thought about it."

** End summary, begin commentary **

I really enjoyed the ending -- Yugi was a much more interesting villain than many of the ones I've seen in other shows. Of course, I have a great many questions that remain unanswered -- I wish I'd seen the series from the beginning. I came in about episode 15, I think.

It has been established that Yugi, although physically a child of about 10, is actually about 3500 years old, having been locked in stasis as punishment for crimes committed on Jurai. Apparently she did not age during that time. Is there some difference between her initial imprisonment and this new "long sleep" that will allow her to age normally now when she didn't before?

That's my biggest question, I suppose. I wonder what Cartoon Network will do now that the Tokyo series is complete? Will they repeat the series, or move on to one of the other Tenchi series? Does anyone know?

ACK! It's 4 AM. I need to go to bed. Goodnight!
Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 1, 2000 06:03:29 AM
IP: smit18-144-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu

Hmm.. typo that should be reading not read.

Sleep... must... now...
Winterwolf
Sunday, October 1, 2000 04:09:10 AM
IP: 206.15.120.136

**Winterwolf slides wearing white socks on his foot paws**

I've been a little chilly lately! Getting colder! Brr! Wait a sec, I'm a winterwolf! Boy is it hot! :P

15th if we're still counting. Top ten if we started at -4!

Hi! I'm back. I'm almost finished Curse of the Shadow Beasts and I'm really looking forward to read through the next book! I love it Christine! Would you like me to send you my feedback? ^_^ I also planned on a big update for my web site but that hasn't happened yet! Soon there will be more than just gathering stuff! :)

Ha ha ha! I hope the warning marker below doesn't cause any heads to explode or implode! :P

******Almost but not entirely unlike RP******

Equus spots the black hole and temporal anomaly. "These could prove useful."
With a few simple gestures he stores both of them away. "I can't believe what people throw away!"
He laughs maniacally as he leaves.

******END Almost but not entirely unlike RP******

QUESTION - What did the Project Leader think? ^_^

One day, a project leader was asked to submit a review of one of his employees.
He wrote the following:
Bob Smith, my assistant programmer, can always be found
hard at work in his cubicle. Bob works independently, without
wasting company time talking to colleagues. Bob never
thinks twice about assisting fellow employees, and he always
finishes given assignments on time. Often, Bob takes extended
measures to complete his work, sometimes skipping coffee
breaks. Bob is a dedicated individual who has absolutely no
vanity in spite of his high accomplishments and profound
knowledge in his field. I firmly believe that Bob can be
classed as a high-caliber employee, the type which cannot be
dispensed with. Consequently, I duly recommend that Bob be
promoted to executive management, and a proposal will be
executed as soon as possible.
Regards - Project Leader

This is especially for Robby and Niamhgold but I'd love to hear what everyone thinks. ^_^

Emambu> <voice> Well you are just blowing the competition away with voice! I figure you just could get the opportunity. <spicy> On the spicy stuff it really depends how saturated with Habaneros it is. <No Comment> **Winterwolf has a very happy Dreamie look in his eyes** <Congrats on friend's wedding> Thanks, I'll be able to spend a few days in Illinois, since that's where the wedding is, it should be fun!

Niamhgold> **beams brightly** I got your email! I sent you one in return! Thanks a million! You're the best! ^_^

Gside> <dirty mind> Not exactly earth shattering news but I agree with my esteemed colleges Niamhgold and Mary Flanders! ;)

Caliope> <top ten> Aww! :( Better luck next time! :P <shows> This week is the first new Roswell! - Mon (10/02) ^_^

**Winterwolf takes off the socks and scurries off to bed**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Sunday, October 1, 2000 04:06:20 AM
IP: 206.15.120.136

** Reads Mary's note **

Yep, I second that!
Niamhgold
Sunday, October 1, 2000 01:20:24 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

Gside>Nope, you do in fact have a dirty mind. ;P
Mary Flanders
Sunday, October 1, 2000 01:10:57 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I now own the record (acutal record, mind you) of The Hitchhicker's Guide. With DON'T PANIC in big friendly letters on the front. Fun. My brother found it in the trash somewhere.

On another note, Rutgers just had its worst home football loss ever.

Selanit> <<'cause somebody else gets to do all the hard frustrating work>>: But you won't have as easy access to all the fun new toys.
<<Now if I can just wade through all this JARGON!>>: My father claims that biology is for people who can memorize. Now, we engineers only need learn the concepts and how to apply them.

Interesting olympics note: Some woman in France is feeling rather loved right now. News coverage showed a very clear shot of a French basketball player in the gold game with a towel draped over his back on which the words "a toi aussi, cherie" were written. This translates to "to you also, dear."

Emambu> <<apparently I look like the character Ponch on [CHiPs]>>: I don't think it is considered a good thing to be an Erik Estrada clone.
<<if half of my classes are in math and sciences does that qualify me as a techie?>>: Will it continue as such, or are you looking forward to the day when they will be gone? And have you come up with any potentially military applications for the material?
<<Out of curiosity, why did you want to know [about the Rutgers band]?>>: Because I am an exbando. I marched with them for two years until my engineering labs conflicted with practice time. That I and wanted to express some of my ambivalence for Rugers football, and sports in general.
<<Even though this T1 line is not as fast as I was lead to believe>>: That's because you're sharing it with everyone else, and they are all trying to complete their mp3 collections in the first month or so back at college. Find a time when no one else is on, and have some fun. That, and a lot of delay is on the other side. Try having some high bandwidth fun off a few separate servers simultaneously.

Mary Flanders> <<But, I am putting together something special for him>>: The mind reels at the possibility. Or maybe I just have a dirty mind.

DPH> <<now you know>>: ".... And knowing is half the battle. G. I. Joe" -end of all G. I. Joe. cartoons. Ever.
"... how I feel most of the time." -Fox Mulder, X-Files, Wetwired, 3.23
The second doesn't feel like what you're going for, but I don't feel like searching any more.

Wilek> <<Top 10! v^_^>>: There you are. Are you going to make me have to make that trip to Cook? I don't have anything against the livestock. Though I could make a short trip over to the Grease Trucks. I always wanted to try squab.

Ray> <<when will the Gargoyles saga cont?>>: The main series will recommence sometime after Pendragon concludes this season.

Niamhgold> <<winks at Gside>>: Oh yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Dame Corax> <<someday I'm gonna make the top ten>>: You just need to have a browser window always open to the CR, and refresh it occasionally throughout the day.

This is a little earlier than I would have liked, but I want you to have it in time. But wait, listen:
I hear a hoot owl.
I hear a hoot owl.
I hear a hoot owl, Lord Baden-Powell, Adam West putting on the Batman Cowl and every one knows what time it is, time it is...time it is...
It's time for Boo Time by Moxy Früvous.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Sunday, October 1, 2000 12:59:03 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

14th! Dang, someday I'm gonna make the top ten...
Dame Corax
Sunday, October 1, 2000 12:44:36 AM
IP: guilder.telcom.arizona.edu

Niamhgold enters and winks at Gside :

13th!
Niamhgold
Sunday, October 1, 2000 12:28:01 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

12th!
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:37:46 PM
IP: denm1-35.iglobal.net

...Dang! Missed it! :P
Caliope
Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:10:20 PM
IP: ppp-196-42-36-128.coqui.net

10th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:55:26 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Top 10!

Please forgive but I have been really out the loop. I still check out the stories in s8 fanfic stories but when will the Gargoyles saga cont? Forgiveness please.
ray
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:55:11 PM
IP: jax-tnt2-pool1-160.coastalnet.com

Top Ten!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:36:38 PM
IP: dial-220.ocis.net

Top 10! v^_^
Wilek
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:33:04 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

6th!
Bronx
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:27:36 PM
IP: spider-tj024.proxy.aol.com

TOP TEN!
Alan "Ordell" - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:18:17 PM
IP: ppp-47.ode.cableone.net

Fourth!


---Emambu
Emambu
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:18:07 PM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Top ten!

Bloody computer woes ... **kicks DC in the nads**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:15:31 PM
IP: 216.28.101.150

Second!
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:13:16 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-66-224.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

First! :P
Mary Flanders
Saturday, September 30, 2000 09:09:38 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net