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*pops back in*

Incidentally, am I the only one here who DOESN'T know a famous actor/politician? o_O

Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, January 20, 2001 11:34:02 PM
IP: 216-146-183-26.bwn.net

Doug><<They're making an awful-looking show called "First Family" that satirizes the Bushes.>> Incorrect. Satire uses humor and exageration to point out the subject's flaws. When the "satirist" simply attaches filth to someone's name for the purposes of entertainment, the work usually falls under different headings. Libel, for one...
<<The first episode has Bush's twin daughters behaving badly and giving Dick Cheney a mild heart attack.>> Heh. I suppose "behaving badly" is one way to describe their portrayel as incestuous lesbians... ^_^ ...for those of you not quite up on your history, this kind of thing is why they invented dueling. Of course, those were dark, uncivilised times. Now, gentlemen like Mssrs Parker and Stone can impugne the honor of women without fear of reprisal, so long as they obey the letter of the law.
Isn't progress *wonderful*, children? ^_^

Greg><<Well, that's television for you.>> Indeed it is. And people wonder why all those calls for censorship keep cropping up...
But that's beside the point. I doubt either "artist" has ever used an 18th century Howdah dueling pistol before, so... Think twenty paces would be capitalizing on their weaknesses? o_O

*rides off like Don Quixote*

Gunjack Valentine
In search of a Sancho
Saturday, January 20, 2001 11:29:49 PM
IP: 216-146-183-26.bwn.net

GXB: <nods> If I had cable, I'd boycott it.
Doug
Saturday, January 20, 2001 11:13:37 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.51.dlls.grid.net

Doug> Sounds to me like a half hour Saturday Night Live sketch. Well, that's television for you. It often surprises me that there was never a show like that about the Clintons.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:55:03 PM
IP: dialin-186-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

They being Parker and Stone.
Doug
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:52:26 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.51.dlls.grid.net

They're making an awful-looking show called "First Family" that satirizes the Bushes. Was originally planned for the Gores, but then Bush won. The first episode has Bush's twin daughters behaving badly and giving Dick Cheney a mild heart attack. <growls> The reason the show makes me mad is I've met one of Bush's daughters and she is NOT a bad girl in any way. Very nice person in fact, and quite intelligent. We should also treat our President and his family with more dignity. Especially since Laura Bush is gonna be a better First Lady than Hillary (and is a better person). Of course this is just my opinion.
Doug
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:51:18 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.51.dlls.grid.net

*Lynati enters*

Well, my high school graduation gift (a computer) has finally been ordered. Okay, so it's eight months late, but better late than never. Wish me luck with the setup.

Gside: Another thing going to show how context is EVERYTHING. The "finger size" comment was ring-related; St. Valentine's day IS coming up, after all. :)

lain: Didja get it yet? didja? huh, didja? Prob'ly not. But soon, soon. *steeples fingers and laughs maniacly*

Warpmind: What? Oh. That. I know, I know, but it was the easiest explanation. I'll e-mail you when I get back to school, the computers there are hotmail friendly. *big smile*


I go back to school tomorrow.
...I don't have any particular feelings about that.
Just wanted y'all to know.
Planes. Nerr...

*Lynati suddenly starts snickering, thinking of the unintentional pun in her response to Warpmind. She sneaks over to the Tea Table and sits down with a big ol' cup of chamomile to wait for him*
Lynati
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:49:01 PM
IP: 207.226.219.57

Ack, I meant up to, not up up
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:43:04 PM
IP: dialin-186-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Gunjack> What are those guys up up now?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:42:03 PM
IP: dialin-186-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Since we're (once again) on the subject of death threats, has anyone heard of the new project being undertaken by the creators of "South Park"? *checks out his trio of dueling pistols*

I'm falling badly behind on the German weapons, so gotta jet...

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:40:27 PM
IP: 216-146-183-26.bwn.net

Tim> Okay, I was not aware of the "killing his entire family" statement. So I confess, I had a biased opinion of him.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:34:33 PM
IP: dialin-186-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Greg: <<Also, what's the problem with Alec Baldwin. My mother happens to be good friends with his "acting mentor", whom is still close with Alec Baldwin. Mr. Baldwin is not a bad guy at all.>> Oh, I wouldn't go that far. He and Kim Basinger just broke up due to "irrecocilible differences."
One of which, according to Basinger and her father, was his hot temper.

There was also an incident when Baldwin was a guest on "Late Night with Conan O'Brian.""We should go to Washington and stone Henry Hyde to death," Baldwin was quoted as saying to a cheering crowd. "And then we should go to his house and kill his family."

"I heard about it, and I'm sickened by it," said Hyde, who has had a series of death threats and is under constant armed guard. "You have someone like that, talking in those terms, about killing your family? To kill my family because you disagree with me? To laugh about that?

"Excuse me for not laughing. He wants my family stoned to death by a mob. Imagine if a Republican said such a thing. I don't find the humor in it," Hyde said.

See you all later!

Tim
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:30:14 PM
IP: s11-onawa.pionet.net

<Jaden's body walks in pulling his head behind him>
What a week. -26 degress during our training alert and my feet go numb for a few minutes. I actually had to drive off post for the first time (with very little training), ended up almost sliding into a ditch and had to be pulled out. I'M FROM S. CALIFORNIA AND HAVE NO EXPERIENCE DRIVING ON ICE!!!!! But I guess it's safe to say that I do now. Well anyway at least it's over and now I just have to survive the rest of this winter.

Doug & Kit- Congrats! I'm so happy for you two. I hope you have a nice ceremony.

New season- Yes! Gotta go read it now.
Later

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:20:54 PM
IP: apnc113.216.216.211.in-addr.arpa

::Enters the room on his gold cobra shaped Air Chariot::

Yes, I did watch George W's inaugeration. Well, I have this to say. It'll be fun to make fun of him for the next four years. Gore provided less "make fun of" fodder, all he had was his robot voice. But still, I hope he does a good job over the next four years.

BTW, I wasn't being partisan there, I had a lot of fun making fun of Bill Clinton over the past eight years, and I am a Clinton supporter.

Also, what's the problem with Alec Baldwin. My mother happens to be good friends with his "acting mentor", whom is still close with Alec Baldwin. Mr. Baldwin is not a bad guy at all.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 09:35:06 PM
IP: dialin-186-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Sorry about missing yesterday: time slipped away and I had to work today :-(. Worse yet, there are predictions of mandatory weekend next week.

Emanbu - Gotta have some honesty in the hologram, otherwise it will not never tell me the truth. Picking and choosing which morals to install is not very easy. I mean would I want a holographic representation of me to be able to become a serial killer or serial rapist?

Daniel Johnson - hmm. One of my hobbies is occasionally trying to prove 1=0. You have wack moods? Oh, I had even wackier mood which left with some wacky ideas for a superhero comedy series. Or is it comedy superhero series? Either way, I am holding onto those ideas unless explicitly emailed for them.


Hmm, if the CR clock is exactly 30 minutes off, then it should be possible to rig a computer to remain exactly 10 minutes off. Of course, somewhere in the plans, I have to account for the general wierdness in the room.

Lady-Mistic - Could you please email me copies of the CR room archives as file attachments? [Yep, I am that desperate for archives so that I can update the BFTS RP archives.]

**SCI FI Spoilers**
Ok, Black Scorpion is settling into a pattern. I have only problem, though. If they make 'morph' her car and her costume, why can't the stupid costume give her enhanced strength? Since she obviously works out, why is she only as strong as her opponents? Also, it seems to me like the 'morphin' device in her car oughta be detachable so she can use almost any car readily.

Ok, I really enjoyed the plot twist ending on Farscape. I just hope my predictions aren't correct for how to resolve one of the conflicts.
**END SCI FI SPOILERS**

Mary Flanders - As a surivor of 3 car accidents (2 of which were caused by me directly, 3rd was running off the road due to sleepiness) you have my sympathies. I have tried to learn something from each accident and I prefer to think I am a better driver because of the accidents.

It's my turn now,
it's my turn now,
my turn to get to the top
7:44 when I hit the submit button

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, January 20, 2001 08:12:01 PM
IP: max1-45.cwy.cei.net

Mary:
OH! I'm sorry! Being in a car accident is nerve-racking. Glad you're OK.
----
Quiet day. I guess everyone is waiting for the wipe. Me too. :)

At the tone the time will be 8:06 pm EST

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, January 20, 2001 07:36:10 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

*enters, rather shaken up*

My God that was scary! I just came back from my driving lesson with my dad. I got into an accident. T.T I was about to drive into a round-about-turn thingy (plenty of those in NJ, but only one in Davis, CA), my dad told me to turn right, I misunderstood him given my surroundings, when I wasn't turning, he said turn right more ergently(sp?) which made me panic. I turned too late and went smashing into a curb. Killed both the wheel and tire of the front right side. X.x It was so f***cking scary! I cried. My dad told me it was ok, but now we need to try and get a new tire for our 86' Nissan (stick). :(

At least I now know how to drive in 3rd gear. :/

*whimper whimper* I don't wanna drive anymore!!!!

Mary Flanders
Saturday, January 20, 2001 07:18:21 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

::delurks::

Haven't posted in here in ::counts on fingers, reaches ten and then gives up:: well it's been a while.

Well there is a reason for my post. I've set up a writers forum. It's just a place where writers of fan fiction, original stories and poetry can highlight their work to others. You can also discuss any type of fiction you've seen on the web...what makes a good or bad piece of writing. Maybe even share tips and tricks to improve our writing styles.

I've posted in here because I know there are some excellent writers in the Gargoyles fandom.

The refuge is open to any who wish to use it.

Kahreen - [karen_blackwell@hotmail.com]
AustraliaSaturday, January 20, 2001 06:27:08 PM
IP: acay.com.au

that appears to be not working..
lain - [<< or maybe try THIS..]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 05:43:39 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Green Baron>> I am terribly sorry.. it appears that my computer does not share the same opinions as I do on the subject of Mel Lastman's Toronto Moose.. My computer seems to be enforcing its opinions rather a lot these days.. it wouldn't let me onto RTL's atheist bashing site.. won't let me see Mel Lastman's publicity.. hmmm...
let's try this..

lain
Saturday, January 20, 2001 05:39:56 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Oh, and Kitania... thanks for the welcome back.

Though you know, I never REALLY left. hehehehehhe...

Traveler
Saturday, January 20, 2001 01:03:24 PM
IP: 208.246.218.30

He hasn't?

Hrmph... we'll just have to get Canada's military to bomb him a'la South Park: The Movie....

Just goes to show ya kids, never trust the word of a left-winger!!!

Traveler
Saturday, January 20, 2001 01:02:17 PM
IP: 208.246.218.30

Geoerge W. Bush is now officiaully the 43rd President of the United States of America.

And that damn Alec Baldwin hasn't kept his promise and left the country.

Tim
Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:37:55 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Emambu> The kids ARE grown-up least to the point that the trio was when they that got that nastey stone till castle above the clouds spell placed on em :D (wave then it is back into pit of hentai tentacles)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Token sane guy
Saturday, January 20, 2001 09:09:08 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-59.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

*Emambu groggily walks in, icebag in his right pressed up against his head, and some Tylenol in his left*

I don't get headaches often, but when I do they sure do take me down a notch. Actually, I wish I could blame it all on my schoolwork but I can't. I am busy, don't get me wrong (in fact that's why I couldn't take the time to post this week); however, a lot of the stress is coming off of my website right now. I don't know how many people here visit my site (I'm guessing one- Gunjack) or know of the financial situation that we've been put in (I'm guessing zero) recently. Anyway, to sum it up, my website (and when I say "my website" I really mean that I'm guy who represents it here since I'm not the webmaster- more like second in command) is rather large in our community (which is Jedi Knight- a popular, though old, computer game), and the server that we our hosted on is the largest. The guy who's been running the whole server, Brian, had struck a deal with an advertising company, UGO, a while back to pay for the necessary costs for his sites and the sites it hosts- like mine. The deal was: they pay for the server each month, and we put their ads up all over the main site and the hosted sites. However, in November UGO began directly violating its contract with us. They haven't been paying the necessary funds needed to run the server (the amount of files transferred between the main site and all the hosted sites is so large that we require at least a T1 line and those things cost upwards of $1200 a month). We could take them to court for breach of contract but they'll declare bankruptcy and we still won't get our money. In any event, the contract to our current server ends today. A few weeks back, all the staff members from all the sites on this server got down, put our heads together, and concluded that none of us can pay for this server out of our own pockets. Brian took it upon himself to go find another contract with someone else that would take us in and pay for our costs. Unfortunately, like I said, the deadline on the server is today and I haven't heard anything from Brian. If no contract has been established... poof. We're gone. The site loses it's server and goes down. All the sites it hosts, namely mine, go down with it and the JK community loses a significant chunk of its community. So after almost two and a half years I could become homeless, so to speak. THAT's why I'm worried.

But enough of my complaints, let's see what's been going on...

Gunjack: Glad you liked the comments, and thanks for the refernce link so I could compare what you had with the real thing. Looked good too. If you have anything else, that you feel is worth having a second pair of eyes take a look then just let me know. Hmmm... was it Anaconda? That sounds right but it's been a while since I've seen that movie and I'm pretty sure I didn't like it all that much. BTW, do you think we'll hurt the ecosystem if we eliminate that type of fish? :) And no, I haven't been watching Gaslight. What o what gave you that idea? :) As for how to deal with Wilek now that the truth of him came out: Uhh, I dunno... start looking for a new line of work? Maybe you could get Shada Du'kal on your side. She handled Tierce pretty well.

Guandalug la'Fay: Just figured I'd let you know that I really appreciate all the effort and work you've put into the archives. I hope that within the coming months, I'll be able to add my own contributions. :)

Caliope: Young man? *sniffs* I thought I was older then you. :) You're right though, we haven't chatted in a while. :) I'm glad to hear of the academic success, especially in getting the A's where you wanted to get them. I've been busy with work and the financial worries of my website (see selfish rant above). *HUGS* congratulations!

Green Baron: Agreed, Econ is much different from PolysSci. But then, I'm not either of them. I'm looking into CompSci as a possible major (it'll be interesting to see how far that takes me considering I don't have _that_ much knowledge in programming). :)

Warpmind: Gotcha, touch-ups for the story. Let me know if you want someone to look it over and offer fair, but objective comments. :) *reads all the posts involving sweeping Lynati into embraces and grumbling about finger thickness* I guess now would not be a good time for to start speculating on what this all might mean. Therefore, I'll hold my tongue... for now. :)

Christine: So sorry to hear about Becca's fall, but it's good to hear that she's okay and that it was only a baby tooth. You guys probably just got confused on whether or not it was a baby tooth. Guess it's good to be wrong every now and again, huh? :) My mom always gets confused with things like that. She can't even remember what year I was born in. I keep telling her she was there so she should know... :) BTW, check your vecna@eskimo.com e-mail address. I believe that's where I sent you an e-mail. Let me know if you get it.

Lain: Glad to see that you're feeling better.

DPH: Hmmm... inconsistancies with behavioral patterns? Maybe you could pick and choose your morals, run it through a compiler, and see which ones go through. Don't bother with the generic ones like honesty as they always create problems... at least they did for me anyway. ;)

Dreamie: Ehhh... busy is the best word I can answer your question with (see selfish rant above for more detail). How have you been, BTW? As for the monolith: well, they now have about nine years to encode a self-duplicating matrix program into it, strap some rockets on it, launch it into Jupiter, have it eat away at the planet, and turn it into a star so that there will be everlasting peace on earth. :) At least they got the dimenions right, 9:4:1.

Winterwolf: Thanks but I think I'm the one getting whipped at the moment. ;) Still, the good grades that go with it is a plus. As for my car... ehhh don't get me started. Actually, too late you already did but I'll be good and keep quiet. :) Glad to hear that you're all healed. *prepares to tackle Winterwolf but stops when the female winterwolf growls at him* Riiiigghhhtt... two on one is not a fair fight in my book, even if I'm half a foot taller then her. I guess I have no choice but to call a truce for now. :) Oh, and you want to know what I'm going to do now that Jeff Bennett is coming this year to the Gathering? Let me tell you: First, I'm going to go cry. Then, I'm going to take a 2X4 and proceed to bash myself over the head with it and with every blow I shall be cursing out all of you people who get to go. I COULD go. But nooo... I have to have this wonderful little morality trait called "guilt" in me. :) *sigh* Oh well, maybe next year. Lastly, check your e-mail please.

Gside: Yeah, that's fine. If you want to put up the song you can. I'll probably go search for it regardless. :) No arguments about Chingrish being contained in the engineering department. All my friends from that school complain about how they cannot understand their professors because they speak an odd mixture of English and Chinease (so eloquently termed Chingrish). I'm starting to notice a simliar pattern in the CompSci department. Last semester my professor was Indian as were both his TA's. This semester, my CompSci professor is Indian and so is her TA. I'm sensing a pattern. :) Hmmm... haven't made a remotely significant contribution to the fandom? What, and I have? ;)

Coyote: Probably already said this but... it's good to see you smiling again.

Niamhgold: Glad to hear that your friend is on the straight path. Sounds like being honest and upfront with her was the right way to go. Good luck with everything this semester.

Spike: So how was that "Curse of the Talisman" movie? Any good, or did it fall through like every other UPN movie? :)

Tim: Belated Happy birthday to you!

Brooklyn: Great to hear from you! Yes, send me the new fics as soon as you're ready. I'll send an e-mail to you also, in case you don't see this. :)

Kyryn: Get better... uhh, that's not a request either. :)

Greg Bishansky: Speaking from a technical standpoint, Hitler was not Christian either. In fact, he wasn't anything, which makes even harder to understand where his hatred for Jews came from (though I have my guesses).

Firestorm: A Pack is Back fanfic with Power Rangers style writing? *shudders* I can see it now... *tries to visualize it* No wait, I can't. It's too horrible. *shudders again*

Daniel Johnson: You think the weather in Jeresy is bad? Let me tell you about Pittsbugh: For starters, I can't understand how it stay as cold as it is, constantly snow, and see any accumlulation. Maybe the streets are heated or something. Secondly, it's never good when you're ranked second in the US for least amount of days where you can see the sun (I think Seattle is the only one that's beats us out).

SOROW: *grin* Congratulations! I couldn't describe how cool it felt when I got accepted into U of Pitt. I'm guessing it must be the same as to what you're feeling now. :)

Daphne: Only if they're funny stories... ;)

Kit and Doug: Congratulations to the both of you!! This is wonderful *gives them both a quick hug* You do realize though, that many of us had already pegged you for married. This just makes it official. Now, if only I could get my brother to do the same thing. :)

**********SPOILERS FOR ANTI-TRUST**********
Saw the movie. Here's what I thought:

To a certain extent, I hate these kinds of movies even more then the ones that are pure, unadulterated crap. At least with them (i.e. Dungeons and Dragons) you know that the movie will be terrible. This one had the making of a good movie in it, and at certain times was very well done. However, there were several things about it that destroyed the continuity and the atmosphere. Ultimately, this isn't one that's worth seeing in the theaters.

The story is about a genius hacker Milo (Ryan Phillippe) who is on the verge of a communications break-through. Along with his best friend Teddy (Yee Jee Tso), another computer genius, the two of them get set to launch the code. Of course, they want it to be open source because "human knowledge belongs to the world." Before it gets underway, they're approached by Gary Winston (Tim Robbins) from NURV who wants the two of them on his team/company so he can launch his own communications program called Synapse. Anyway, Phillippe and Tso have a fall-out over this and the former leaves to go work for NURV. Coming with him is his girlfriend (Clair Forlani) who's role is to paint and have sex with Milo. Things look fine until Milo starts to notice that competition programmers are being killed. Soon, his best friend falls victim (although if you had watched the previews you would have known that that was going to happen). Milo suspects Gary, and the movie quickly degenerates from there. I won't give away the ending due to its childish nature and sheer stupidity.

Like I said though, there were good points. Tim Robbins does a good job in his role- flawed though it is (more on that later). There are some great scenes between Milo and Gary in the beginning. The relationship between Teddy and Milo was also interesting to follow. You truly end up feeling sorry for his death. Sympthy for the character, is a great quality. The plot even starts out nicely with several themes
rolling at once. However, it's when they tie together that things start to fall apart.

The biggest grievance I had with the movie is that it was too silly and ridiculous. Gary Winston is a carbon copy of Bill Gates and NURV is a carbon copy of Microsoft (right down to releasing a target date for Synapse before the code is written). The only thing that could have made it worse would have been if Gary's first words were, "believe it or not, I'm really not Bill Gates." Too ridiculous. At least they got a competent actor to fill the role. Another problem is that the film tries to shove the irony and the revelations down our throats like we had the mental capacity of a box turtle. Gary's slip-up to Milo, which leads Milo to suspect that Gary killed Teddy, is immediately followed by twisted camera shot and flashbacks that last for an agonizingly long time. In fact, every revelation in this movie is like this. Maybe the director should have posted signs up in addition during each revelation in case the audience is too stupid to figure out what's going on. Too silly. Lisa's (Racheal Leigh Cooke) character is not very well done. Several themes in her life are touched on but never get brought up. In the end, the "surprise" twist for her comes across as flat and unrealistic. Too ridiculous. One of the later scenes where Milo and Gary fight on their computer for control of several satellites is the epitome of the movie's goofiness. Milo unsuccessfully tries to access three of the satellites. He then says, "He's (Gary) shutting them down in sequence. Access number 12." A split second later, far, far away we hear Gary, "Wait... I know how he thinks. Shut down number 12." Too silly.

*sigh* This could have been good. There were many themes that could have made it good. Ultimately, this is a director's responsibility because the acting was ok, IMHO. Don't waste your money on this in theaters. If you want, you can give a shot when it goes to video and DVD, but I wouldn't spend too much on it.
**********END SPOILERS**********

**********TGS SPOILERS**********

Well, it finally started back up. Alls I can say is: FINALLY!! I've been patiently waiting, and waiting. I was very good when it came to asking about when the new season was coming out. At last, my prayers have been answered. :)

Overall, though rather short, I was impressed with this episode. Numerous themes are being setup, which is good when you consider that this is only the first story of the season. The plotline is simple but by no means flat. We get to see Duval and the Illuminati planning on how they're going to explain this whole Unseelie ordeal. Roping Bluestone into it seemed to be the most logical choice since he was at "ground zero" as the story put it. We get to see Goliath and Elisa preparing for the announcement of their love to the detective's parents. We get to see Beth slowly maneuvering her way into a possible lead role in that she will be working with Xanatos. I must say, I'm kind of enjoying seeing the feud between Maza and Xanatos start again. Elisa had cooled off by the end of season 2 so now we can see Beth get involved. And of course, there's the foreshaodwing at the end. Brooklyn's dream/prophesy was well done, though a little short. I enjoyed Sata's reaction. It wasn't blatantly overt but it was there for the reader to find without too much difficulty. Bluestone's hearing is another cliffhanger so to speak. The last little communique between Blackwater and Duval leaves the reader with no doubt that something is going on behind the scenes. Guess we'll just have to wait until part 2 to learn more.

Some interesting characterization as well. I liked the little scene between Goliath and Brooklyn at the beginning of the story. The two of them almost treat each other as equals and less of a leader-subordinate, which is what it used to be. You can clearly see the growth between the two of them since "The Hunted." I enjoyed that. The new characters should prove interesting, particularly Lee. I'm still trying to figure out he angle. My only concern is that, if these characters do become important, that they'll pull a Sharon Nimura or a Dr.Goldblum or a Liz and disappear from the face of the earth for a good while after their fifteen minutes in the spotlight are up. Also, Singleton's character seems a little bland at the moment. I know he's only been in one scene, but so far he has been the embodiment of several stereotypes: Nice suit, calm way of handling himself, simple talker (i.e. man of few words), and sort of a dark, mysteriousness about him. Heck, the first line out of his mouth was that he was admired by Bluestone's way of getting to the point. Yeesh. Give the guy something, anything to make him seem a little less predictable.

Mechanically, I couldn't find anything wrong. I think it's a testament to both the writer and the editors for catching all the errors. it's job that they deserve credit for. One complaint though: Why was Brooklyn taken to the Labryinth after he was shot insteda of the Eyrie Tower where Xanatos has some of the bets medical equipment on the planet? I mean, Sharon said it best. Dr. Goldblum is a geneticist not a general practicioner. Of course, had Sata done the smart thing then we never would have had that foreshadowing scene with Brooklyn nor would we have had Broadway's touching "big brother" line. I won't say anything about the snipers because there's obviously more to them so I won't comment on whether or not I think they were shooting to kill. I do think Brooklyn's injuries was a bit of a cop-out. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see that he'll probably live. It would be wrong to kill him at this stage. After all, Brooklyn has not yet finished his responsibity as a father. He deserves the chance to see his children grow up. After all he's been through, to deny him that would be a great insult to his character. However, that doesn't make his injuries any less of a cop-out. Hey, I warned you guys that I was nitpicky. :)

Overall, despite the short length, I think this was a good setup for the third season. It will be interesting to see how things play out from here. Congrats, and I look foward to part 2 soon.
**********END SPOILERS**********

Well, I'm done for now. I apologize for any typos, but it rather late at the moment. My clock reads 5am so I should probably get some sleep. :) Take care, *Emambu exits still holding the icebag to his head*


---Emambu

Emambu - [erikmambu@hotmail.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Saturday, January 20, 2001 04:29:36 AM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Doug + Kit: Congrats! It is great news to hear. He's best wishes to you both. ^_^ ,v..

Well, I guess that's all I needed to say. Time is pressing, and matters weigh heavily on the mind. If you all are still on IM, give me a buzz sometime, K?

- Kai
"A world of love may, one day, yield peace and justice; but to race to the equity and silence of total destruction and oblivion can never yield love."

Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Saturday, January 20, 2001 02:20:50 AM
IP: 1cust45.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Doug> <<Sorry to hear it's used, though>>: Why? Trenchcoats are best rumpled. The only thing I might want is interior pockets, but that's not too important. Though lately I have been looking a tad like a KGB agent, what with wearing my hat with the earflaps up.

Warpmind> <<mumbling something about finger thickness>>: That was incredibly wrong.
<<Dakota's Ridge... Great work, Spike>>: I have no idea why I didn't notice that. Though I do remember noticing the Satin and Silk contest entries (incidentally, Warpmind, you might want to start stockpiling blue M&Ms). But good work, CSH.

Spacebabie> <<Stranger in a Strange land((Escaflowne))>>: No, not Escaflowne, Heinlein.

Daniel Johnson> <<Why do we need air?>>: To break down carbohydrates in the Krebs Cycle. If we didn't, there would be a whole lot of potential ATP going unmade. And of course, ATP is essentially pure energy for cells.
<<Good to know that some things never change>>: Well, it really hits home when you see the toy rollercoaster hung up in one corner of the room.
<<As soon as I saw that picture, it all came back to me>>: And then your mind instantly collapsed upon pondering the geometric impossibilities of many of the tie patterns.
<<I like the vans without the windows>>: But of course. They can hold many fun things.

Rodlox> <<btw, and depression's gone>>: Enjoy.

Christine> <<French just sounds too flowery no matter how obscene the translation>>: But flowery can be good, it confuses them. That, and look at Shakespeare's achievements in flowery curses.
<<50% of them are interested in pursuing celebrity careers this time>>: That is no way to do it. They should have people who actually know how to do stuff. It would be great to see all the stuff they build, like monkey deboners or even an escape device. Now that would be a good Junkyard Wars challenge. And they wouldn't even need a junkyard.

Fire Storm> <<AND in some cases I have *THIRD* wisdom teeth>>: Hive mind?
<<Fire Storm looks like he is going to comment, but decides better>>: You know that won't do much good.
<<The new page says TGS CR ADMINISTRATOR>>: Labeling it more explicitly is a good thing, especially since Dumlao isn't around anymore.
<<And I heard it on Seven Days>>: Truly? In what situation? I'd assume a toast after a job well done.
<<Any CR and Chat room on s8.org are :30 behind>>: But what I find freaky about that is that they are exactly 30 minutes behind.

SOROW> Congratulations on the acceptance.

Daniel Johnson> <<It rained all day>>: Just a few more degrees and it would have snowed again. It did the other day. Why can't it do it again?
<<I like the feeling of warm monkey leather against my skin>>: Who doesn't?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, January 20, 2001 02:09:07 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Warning: once again Daniel is in a weird mood. I seem to be full of nervous energy for some reason.

The weather here in Jersey sucks. It rained all day. Tomorrow it's supposed to rain until the temperature drops and then turn to snow. Messy. On the good side, I've been given tomorrow off. Yay! I almost never get Saturdays off. Guess I'll get to watch the Inauguration after all.

Rodlox:
Oh, good. I'm glad the depression's gone. Make sure it stays that way. :)
----
Kyryn:
<<Computer hiccups are the weirdest things>> ::Snort:: You've got that right. I still don't know what happened. Always glad when my problems can provide entertainment to others. ;P
----
Daphne:
<<Not much else in my life, unless anyone wants to hear stories about studying.>> Depends on the subject. I've heard some very entertaining calculus stories. And right now I'm teaching myself Perl (the computer language). Lots of fun there. ;)
----
Christine:
<<I've found that German is the most fun language to cuss in>> Definitely. After all, even perfectly innocent German sounds like cursing. You can't speak to someone without spitting on them. :) Although I bet Russian is pretty fun too. Always wanted to learn Russian.
----
Fire Storm:
<<*FS grabs DC by the feet and whacks Daniel with DC*>> I'm afraid you're going to have to find something a bit heavier: we Johnson's have notoriously thick skulls. I once had a thick glass shelf fall off of the wall on my head. It cracked in half. Didn't faze me. Then there was the time I tripped going down the cellar stairs at work and landed face down on the concrete floor. Fortunately, my head absorbed most of the impact. Unfortunately, my left elbow was sticking out; it got broken. First and only time I've ever broken anything.

<<Gside: <He's an engineer (see deboning machine). He must be good.>
*Fire Storm looks like he is going to comment, but decides better*>> I like the feeling of warm monkey leather against my skin.
----
SOROW:
<<I was accepted to UT Austin today.>> Yay! Good luck with the scholarship. And have fun. :)

At the tone the time will be 11:46 pm

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, January 19, 2001 11:16:12 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Bit of news: I was accepted to UT Austin today. I'm pretty sure that's the school I'm going to go to, but I want to wait and see how big a scholarship they'll give me :) I'm poor.

Doug & Kit> AAAAAAA! Congratulations! I'm so happy that it's official ;) Well, I always knew you two were the perfect couple. May you both have a wonderful life together. I think you will. *hugs*

Jannie> nope. He didn't say one word, during or after the confrontation. He's so care-free about everything that he doesn't really think about the big picture. Unfortunately, these things happen and I start to wonder if we should really be together, and then he'll do something wonderful that no one else could compare to. *sigh* Why is love so complicated?

SOROW
Friday, January 19, 2001 09:34:05 PM
IP: a010-0441.dll2.splitrock.net

Any CR and Chat room on s8.org are :30 behind,
The adult Chat and Comment rooms are 1:05 fast

Food for thought...

Fire Storm
Friday, January 19, 2001 05:52:32 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Kyryn: <And, oh man, do you get sick and tired of the thing by the time that you are done with it!>
DEFINATELY! (and I only had to listen to LM complain about it! :)

Kyryn/LM: <Nope. He never emailed me back, but I got the info from another source. Thanks much.>
Ok. So I suck. Sorry. Just as well. Our access codes don't work anyway.

Daniel Johnson: <Why do we need sinuses anyway?>
Without them our heads would be solid bone and we humans would have never been able to walk because our heads weighed too much.
<Oh, the pill, definitely.>
But the band is not too bad either, especially if you want to hear some British techno-twit sing about the women that he lost.
<That's certainly possible, if every other network time server in the world is 30 minutes fast. Hey, it could happen!>
It's true. I noticed it too. Guess gore has to re-set his time.
<<Someone kindly whack me in the head with a heavy, blunt object.>
*FS grabs DC by the feet and whacks Daniel with DC*
<Why do we need air?>
Because you humans are so inefficient. You just can't fully metabolize your food, using your blood as the catalyst.

Lady Corax: <because I lost the molars right behind my canines twice! I thought I was the only weird one who did that. :) Glad that she's okay, though! :)>
My SECOND set of wisdom teeth are coming in behind my first set, AND in some cases I have *THIRD* wisdom teeth!

SJ: <(non-lethal, or course)>
Hey, if antivenom is administered within an hour (Or much, MUCH less, depending on the snake), your chances for survival are pretty good.
<Are you familiar with Jason Mewes (sp?) and his history?>
Not too much. I was listening to the comentary track on the Clerks DVD and he was passed out on the floor drunk and Kevin commented that was how he usually was.
I was just wondering WHY they continued to work with him. I know, I know... Silent Bob isn't as cool with out the looser Jay! :)
<By the way, do you have a copy of Happy Scrappy Hero Pup?>
I am on the phone with the distribuitor. :)

Rodlox: <i thought you guys said that that one was availiable only to CR workers and TGS staff...oh crup, me in trouble now!!>
Well, TECHNICALLY anyone can access it, but it is just taboo to use it. There is a version of the ADD COMMENT page that has it labeled TGS ADMINISTRATOR, or something like that, but Gorebash hasn't replied to any of my e-mails.

Coyote: <Of course you know how this is gonna look to the rest of the country>
Oh yeah... I was listening to WWJ (The local news station for you non-Detroiters) and ABC news was talking about it.

Gside: <He's an engineer (see deboning machine). He must be good.>
*Fire Storm looks like he is going to comment, but decides better*
<Fire Storm, are you going to put up a warning on the dropdown after the overhaul?>
The new page says TGS CR ADMINISTRATOR. In theory, I just e-mail it to gore and he posts it.
Ahh... I love theory. Too bad it never works.
<And I forgot my tagline.>
And I heard it on Seven Days

Christine: <The Pack is Back (fanfic) -- they were the heroes of their own TV show; let's see some of the episodes!>
Do they have to be as badly written as the show probally was? Power Rangers level or worse? :)

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, January 19, 2001 05:45:54 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

GATHERING 2001 Writing Contest > the deadline for entering the writing contest is May 1, 2001.

Topics include:
The Pack is Back (fanfic) -- they were the heroes of their own TV show; let's see some of the episodes!
Pucking Around (fanfic) -- choose an Avalonian and follow their adventures during that thousand-year exile.
Boldly Go (fanfic) -- in search of believable Gargoyles / Star Trek crossovers.
Episodes You'd Never See (fanfic teleplay) -- from the improbable to the downright silly, in animation teleplay format.
Gargoyles: Original Takes on Old Statuary (short fiction) -- stories about gargoyles that are not Gargoyles, not fanfic.
What Gargoyles Means to Me (essay) -- how the show and the fandom can change a life.
Of the Night (poetry) -- explore the essence of Gargoyles in poetic form.

For all the info on rules and requirements, click on the link below or go to http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/writing.htm
Send questions to either me (christine@sabledrake.com) or to the writing contest team (g2001_writers@hotmail.com)

Mary > I've found that German is the most fun language to cuss in ... French just sounds too flowery no matter how obscene the translation ; )

Survivor II > I am so looking forward to it that I took the night off from work just for the occasion! No Rich, okay (but there's a rumor he'll appear; he mentioned to a reporter recently that he just got back from Australia, hey-hey!). And the new bunch of folks ... 50% of them are interested in pursuing celebrity careers this time, as opposed to 10-20% of the first gang. And for sheer eye-candy, there's a much higher ratio of babes and beefs. What I'm most interested in is seeing how the alliances will play out, because you know they'll all be very aware how the first season worked. That guy Coyote mentioned, Keith, the chef, is apparently the 4-1 favorite in Vegas for bringing in the win. And another, Nick, is from Fort Steillacom, WA, just a stone's throw from the state mental hospital. They've already got plans for Survivors III and IV! Oh happy day!

Becca > thank you, everyone, for the support. That's interesting, about the 3rd set of teeth. But whatever the reason, I'm just glad it turned out okay.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, January 19, 2001 04:06:23 PM
IP: 09-021.075.popsite.net

[Daphne enters, the heavey burden of "assessments" done, but annoyed that the Winter Dance has beenpostponed for the Second time.]

Congradulations where they're due!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kit, Doug>>> see above. As for the project, it went... ok. B+. The teacher saidnit wasn't quite professional enough. Considering the members of my group offered to handle the intro and then didn't, leaving me hanging, I'd say it's a fair assessment. I talked to him after class. He says he figured the script was my work, and that I should pick a different group for next time :)

Not much else in my life, unless anyone wants to hear stories about studying.

Happiness!

Daphne
Friday, January 19, 2001 03:04:10 PM
IP: 207.224.2.81

Lady Mystic> Hey! Good to see ya around again. :)

Warpmind> Hey, wow! Thanks for doing some research on the three sets of teeth thing! It's very cool having actual scientific proof that I'm abnormal. :) I know that it freaked me out when my second set of those particular teeth started getting loose...because I thought you only get two sets, so they'd never grow back in! But whaddaya know, they did...pretty weird. And yet very cool at the same time. :)

Doug> Awww! The way you describe proposing to Kit is so sweet! You two are so awesome. Best o' luck to the both o' ya! :) And in a few years, I'll to take you up on your congratulations offer...I hope! ;)

Coyote> Oh, man! Having Olson back on the bench is just plain inspiring! I even saw some sportscasters and writers holding back tears when he came on the floor. So the team won, 71 to 58. Best of luck with your water woes, too...I can sympathize. Mine are back. :( Oh, well! :)

Have a great weekend, everybody! :)

Lady Corax
Friday, January 19, 2001 02:36:56 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*Lynati leaps back in, vigourously waving her hands*

Doug: AAgh! Don't say that! you'll jinx things! nothing is...umm...confirmed yet. We're waiting to see if we can stand one another's physical presence first.

lain: This is just a pre-emptive apology for the apology I wrote for you; In my defense, I only started writing it at 1 a.m. last night. You'll see what I mean soon.

*Flees back to Warpmind with a grin*
Lynati
Friday, January 19, 2001 01:52:26 PM
IP: 207.226.219.69

**Mandi sticks her head into the CR for her usual cursory scan in the midst of a mad packing rush. She gets down to Doug's post, does a double take, then shoves her way past plastic bags full of junk and hops into the room.**

Doug and Kit: CONGRATULATIONS! **hugs** I'm so happy for you! Let us know when you get a date set, okay? :)

Anyway, I really do need to get back to packing. I'm heading back to Hood at 6 am tomorrow. Gah.

**Mandi hugs Doug and Kit again before going back to the mounting piles of bags**

Mandolin
Friday, January 19, 2001 01:07:38 PM
IP: pm35-80-215.iximd.com

Thanks Doug, I agree with everything you said. I fully intend to use more tact in the future, and be more careful with my words if I do bring up politics in here again, and in general with all my posts.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, January 19, 2001 01:03:36 PM
IP: dialin-1101-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Spacebabie> I seen the trailor. A horror movie based on that holiday. The world is doomed ._.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, January 19, 2001 12:21:45 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-128-101.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

***Kyryn sticks her head in the CR.***

Lady Mystic> Nope. He never emailed me back, but I got the info from another source. Thanks much.

Daniel Johnson>LOL! I spent about five minutes trying to figure out what you meant by "No". Computer hiccups are the weirdest things...

Later All!

***Kyryn sneezes and is blown backwards out of the comment room by the force of her sneeze.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, January 19, 2001 12:07:37 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org


Warpmind: some folks have the potential for 3 rows of teeth? now that's what I call encouragement for the Apteri/Gargoyle relationship-involvement with Humans. {long story}.

Doug: <Orion jumps back down into the fray, landing on an awning and sliding down it to light on his feet behind a large group of zombies. He speaks a holy word and a light beam streaks out of his hand, turning them all to dust.> was it a line-of-sight shot or an in-all-directions shot? if the latter, right now, Anthony the HellCop's covered with a layer of ashes, muttering how glad he is that Orion's not a dammed soul.

again, best wishes to you and Kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, and depression's gone.

Rodlox
Friday, January 19, 2001 12:01:45 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Guandalug: Well, when I looked at the authors page it still had every author's name listed three or more times, and on my story page every story prior to August 2000 (I think) was listed at least thrice also. That was on Saturday though, so things may have changed since. I'll check on it again after the Monday update you mentioned, and let you know.

Warpmind, Lynati: Congratulations. I had my suspicions about you two. :)

Spacebabie, Lady Mystic: Thanks!

Doug
Friday, January 19, 2001 10:51:37 AM
IP: pool-63.52.168.223.dlls.grid.net

Gside:
<<I'm voting for filtering of air.>> Why do we need air?
<<It tends to lend an air of respectability to most people, though I don't think that'll ever quite happen with him.>> Good to know that some things never change.
<<RE: ties>> I have good recognition, but lousy recall. As soon as I saw that picture, it all came back to me.
<<Funny Looking Kid>> Heh, sounds like me. :)
<<He's an engineer (see deboning machine). He must be good.>> I like the vans without the windows.

At the tone, the time will be 10:23 am EST

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, January 19, 2001 09:53:27 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

The group of 4 enter the room with a big Banner
CONGRATULATIONS KIT AND DOUG.

Reverend Jesse Jackson>>>Like I don't have enough reasons to think that Dr Seuss reject should crawl back under what ever rock he crawled out of? You all know by Now that Jackson has been acting a lot lik the ex prez by now.

Staking Dru>>> No way! she is just too darn cool! Besides I read a rumour that she may appear on Buffy again. Mebbe if Angel really scares the bejeebers out of her.

Speaking of whedon's works>>>Cross your fingers for his Buffy star..SMG this Sunday night.

Speaking of Angel>>> anyone see the previews for Valentines?!

RANT>>> My professor the Jerk that nobody likes gave us a bonus question on our test. It had nothing to do with early American literature. It dealt with temptation Island. Yeah Temtptation island. Like Anyone is class with common decensy watches that crappy Survivor wannabe. He knows the students dont like him so this must be his feable attempt at trying to connect
End Rant>>>

Man I'm toatly into the second season of Magic Knight Rayearth...Especially the sisters from Chiezeta. Theyare like Mioshi and Kiyone. I Highly recommend both seasons
to anime fans if you like anime fantasy that includes
Stranger in a Strange land((Escaflowne))
Magical Girl((Sailormoon))
Big giant fighting robots((Gundam))
Cool twist at the ending.

Spacebabie and her Chibi's - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, January 19, 2001 09:35:24 AM
IP: user-37kaovt.dialup.mindspring.com

*quick peek in from work*

Archive Update: Only about 400 Stories to go..... guess I'll update the online version on monday

Doug> <<Archive's looking somewhat better, but there are still too many duplicates of all the files and authors on there>> Hmm.... duplicates? You were looking at the 'backup' or 'Reconstruction' version on my homepage, weren't you? There should not be any double author (except when an author had two completely different sets of data) and no double stories by any author..... If there's somebody who has two aliases - tell me and I'll see what I can do.

<<Keep up your work, though, I know you still have a lot.>> I will.... it should be done soon now. Have to add the search-engine to my new database, copy all the stuff needed for the adult-page and modify the look of it and then.... well, test the stuff :) If there's no ugly surprise on the way I can switch next month - latest date should be somewhen in march.

*disappears back to work, sensing a boss-attack coming up*

Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
Friday, January 19, 2001 05:21:54 AM
IP: mailgate-a.ais-gmbh.de

Hey everyone! :)

Quite tired here, but thought I'd drop by to say a few things. (I appologize in advance for any grammatical errors and misspelled words.)

Rodlox: RE: Weekly Updates: FS and I would if we could. But we can't log on to WyvernWeb's FTP server. (Due to the same problem announced several months ago.) We'd upload the files to our own server but we have a lot of work yet to do to enable that. And we are currently without an ISP (which expired months ago -- nevermind the fact that they neglected to take down our webpages *L* ) or any web space providor. So not only has the TGS updates been on hiatus but also all my personal and professional website work. Hopefully things will get straightened out soon.

Kyryn: Did FS ever return your email concerning the data you needed?

Coyote: Hope things improve soon (and stay that way ;) ) on the water situation.

Doug+Kit: Congrats on the engagement!

** The rarely seen and heard lady exits the room **

Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Friday, January 19, 2001 04:40:19 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*Warpmind pops his head in.*
Heya again, just a short announcement: I just read up on a webcomic called Dakota's Ridge (click my name), and, starting from the very beginning (with several good laughs along the way), I made an interesting discovery. Last week was Fan Week there; and for Friday 12th the fan artist in question was one we all know and love. 'Twas quite funny, too. Great work, Spike. ]:) Sure got those points through. ];)

*Disappears again, pointing at his link*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, January 19, 2001 03:51:37 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

*Warpmind enters, grumbling.*
One of those days... can't log into my e-mail account. Oh, well, I shouldn't really complain; they HAD warned me of the scheduled temporary shutdown for upgrading their servers... *sigh*

Lynati: No, there's none in particular in mind. Just a general... vision, you might call it. *Clicks tongue* So, shiny blue things, huh? Sounds like a sapphire would be just about perfect, then... :)

Mary Flanders: You like to learn rude words??? *Chuckle* You do realize, I hope, that through me, you have quite a few Norwegian choice phrases available, hmmm? ]:)

*Snaps fingers* Lady Corax/Christine: About that baby tooth thing - I did a little check-up on the subject. Apparently, having a triple set of teeth is one of the most common dental anomalies; they don't know why, and they don't know how, but a lot of people (figuratively speaking) are born with the genetic equipment to grow three sets of teeth, as opposed to the "normal" two sets.

Daniel Johnson: Shirt fascination, you say? *Winks to Lynati* As if THAT should intimidate me, after what the two of us have shared. *Swoops up Lynati in a diabetes-inducing embrace.*

Gside: Hee, hee, hee. ]:)

Doug: Um, thanks, but you know something? *Swoops Lynati up once more* Keeping you posted is NOT likely to be a problem. ;) *Grin*

Well, that's about it for now. Later, muchachos. *Sneaks off with Lynati in tow, mumbling something about finger thickness.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, January 19, 2001 02:13:58 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

Almost forgot!

Daphne: Good luck with the presentation, I think you had a good idea for the script and hope it gets used. Be sure and let us know how things turn out. The presentation Kit mentioned was one I had to do in 8th grade on knights and all they were and did. My partner was a lazy class clown who didn't want to do any of the work, so I ended up having to get everything together myself. His preformance when we did the presentation was great, though, so I can't say he totally didn't contribute. :) We ended up doing a forty-five minute comedy skit that involved the whole class in various ways. We started off portraying a king and queen deciding to insitute knights into the world (Anatole, my partner, did the queen), then for the rest of the play I was the knight going through situations which Anatole narrated and showing the class all that knights had to deal with in their lives- training, heraldry, weapons, tournaments, chivalry, public disgrace if one broke the code of chivalry (a very fun scene :), and retirement once they passed from history. We also involved the rest of the class in all sorts of incidental roles- servants, other knights, etc. Some people I used to in-joke effect (the girl I had a crush on I cast as the lady who spurned my knightly attention once I got disgraced, a guy who sat in class like a block of wood all the time got to play a quintan training machine, our resident artist did the heraldry, etc.). It was a very fun presentation, and we got an A too. I have completely misplaced the script for it, though if I ever find it I'll e-mail it to you or anyone if they ask. Again, hope your presentation goes well, thanks for keeping us up to date on it.

<skips out to go to bed>

Doug
Friday, January 19, 2001 02:00:12 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.148.dlls.grid.net

Begin Part 2!

Mary: Once again, congrats on the new love. Glad you'll be able to meet each other soon, and best of luck with the relationship. One-in-a-million people are hard to find, but almost always a blessing to know. <smiles> Hope you've found yours, like I've found Kit.

Rodlox: Sorry to hear about your depression, hope it ends soon. Let Kit and me know if we can help. I don't think you were the only one who thought Kit and I were engaged or married already, glad that we can now say that assumption's correct. :)

Kyryn: Condolences on the illness, hope it ends soon if it hasn't already. Thanks for your congrats to Kit and me, we will be keeping the CR informed of developments as always.

Selanit: The site you're creating looks pretty nice so far, IMO. Keep up the good work on it. I like the plans you have for the sections, and will definitely be keeping an eye on how they develop. Congratulations on the good grades, best of luck with your classes this semester. If I ever need some Egyptian hieroglyphics translated, I know where to come. :)

Niamhgold: Glad that you're giving your friend the help she probably needs. If I knew someone losing weight that quickly and not drinking enough water, _and_ that obsessed with exercise, I too would be worried. Hope she will soon be feeling better and enjoying life again, I'll keep her in my prayers for a speedy, healthy, and complete recovery.

Green Baron: I'll do my best with your RP operations when you're gone, glad you trust me with them. Best of luck in the Army, when the time for you to join them comes. Kit and I look forward to when you'll stop by Austin, we will send you bus schedules of course. Like she said, just please let us know when you're coming so we can be fully prepared for an honored guest. :)

Winterwolf: Thanks for your congratulations, bravos, and prayers. All are appreciated. I too am glad that more people are coming to see that I'm good at my job, it's been hard becoming so let me tell you. :) And I'm still learning. I'll definitely have to grow into being a good police officer too when the time comes for that, but I'm confident I can handle it. Glad you are also. I too hope my dad and I can grow to better understand each other someday, wish it didn't seem so impossible. <sigh> Good luck to you in the pursuit of acquiring and keeping longtime friends, Kit and I hope to do the same with people in here and elsewhere. :)

Gside: Fedoras and trench coats- both nice to wear IMO. Congrats on getting one of them, glad you're enjoying it. Sorry to hear it's used, though. Thanks for the congrats to me and Kit.

Warpmind: Congrats on falling for someone, if the chibis are correct in what they say. Hope she likes you as well, and that many happy times are ahead. Please do keep us posted on this now. :)

Calliope: Kit is happy with her classes this semester, but she's attending them in a really good mood because of our engagement, not that. Guess you somehow missed the news. :( Congrats on the good grades.

Tim: Happy Belated Birthday!!

SOROW: Condolences on that bad situation you went through, especially on not having your best friend stand up for you. I agree with Kit that you might need to get a new best friend. <sigh> Good luck with doing that if it becomes necessary, glad that he apologized at least. Glad that the police are going to be helping you out with things too. Always pays well to have friends among the local cops. :)

Revel, Brooklyn, Kirshanta: Welcome back, all of you. You have been missed. Revel, condolences on your computer troubles, hope they soon are over. <kills DC to speed things along some>

GXB: Thanks again for your e-mailed congratulations. I agree that your political views need a little more realism and a little less extremeness, you especially need to consider what you're gonna say before you say it. But you apologized and pledged to not raise such issues in here, so I'm not gonna beat the dead horse anymore. I feel I must say this, though- you need not be afraid to express your views, you just need to consider things like tact and realism along with the views of others before speaking your mind. Lots of people have that problem, but that doesn't mean it can't be helped. You're hardly the only liberal in here either- Kit and I are also pro-choice (although we really DO NOT like abortion, and hope that before having one a woman will think long and hard about the choice she is making, and be able to do so with all the facts in mind), pro-Church-State separation, and pro-gay rights- not to the extreme, but we are. We differ from you somewhat on drugs and guns, but we're more moderate on those issues than conservative or liberal. We know we're not atheist, but we can tolerate and even befriend people who are. Like you, we want what's best for the country, that's something different for everyone though. <sigh> I also thought Ashcroft was probably not gonna be too great an Attorney-General at first, but now I'd rather just wait and see what develops. I also think I share Taleweaver's opinion of him and of Bush- I'll base my opinion on how they perform and not make pre-judgement. Hope both men do their jobs well, they're definitely having to fight hard to get them. Glad that you're going to give them a chance, I am too. :)

Taleweaver: Sweeps also has me tingling with anticipation this year. :) I wonder how they'll top what they've done already, though, as far as Buffy and Angel go. I can hardly wait to find out. As I said above, I agree with you about Ashcroft and Bush. Even though I live in Texas, I don't know much about either except for what the media has told me, which makes me hope they both turn out to be better than what they seem. :(

Kaioto: Very good points about character defamation, public personal attack, and partisan politics. Thanks for posting them. I regret to say that many of the people in Washington really need you on their teams. <sigh> Congrats on being able to live and think outside the box, especially in the environment where you are. <grimaces at the description of it, and decides to stay away from there himself>

Lynati: February will indeed be interesting. <grin> Thanks for your congratulations, and a belated welcome back.

DPH: Good luck with all the interviews, tests, etc. Any job with that much screening had better be worth having, I hope it goes well for you. I also hope your workplace logic improves soon.

Daniel: Thanks for your congratulations and your confidence. We're getting the loan situation straightened out slowly but surely right now, just have to get us some land. :)

Firestorm: Condolences on the illness, hope you soon feel better. Rest is recommended. :) Kit and I wish we had time to take advantage of those Blockbuster deals ourselves.

And now I've reached the top of the CR. :) Once again. Not much more to say other than thanks to everyone again for their congratulations. Kit and I will do our best to live up to all your words, and if we don't we'll settle for being happy together forever. <grins> May our lives soon improve, and hopefully there will be more good news to share next week. I must sleep now, because I am tired. Later all!

**RESUME RP, RAVENS' SAGA**

"You really think you can best me, Orion?" Geburah is laughing at the Ravens' cleric as the screen comes back on. "Your friends are all occupied, and your witch is nowhere to be seen." "I do not need them," Orion replies calmly, stepping closed to the cornugon. "Not against you." "You will against what is waiting for you outside, old friend," Geburah laughs. Then he claps his hands together and vanishes in a puff of black smoke. Orion sighs angrily, then looks down and sees the other Ravens still facing the zombies, the battle going easier now that they are backed up by Jesse Ventura and the Minnesota National Guard. Making a quick decision, Orion jumps back down into the fray, landing on an awning and sliding down it to light on his feet behind a large group of zombies. He speaks a holy word and a light beam streaks out of his hand, turning them all to dust. "Nice one!" Jammer says, using up his last two rounds on another pair of the undead. "Any more of these things?!" Mansfield calls out as the National Guard down those that remain with quick precise headshots. "I don't think so!" Leah shouts back, having fought her way to Tom's side. "You alright?" she asks him, and he nods. "We got Jerry and the other demons. Finally." "I have Stephanie tied up over here!" Keith shouts. "Everyone still alive?" "Barely," Elena growls, applying bandages to her many wounds with help from Boris. Nearby, Doug and Kit work their way around the zombies' remains to each other, smile, and embrace. "I never want to go through a battle like that again," Doug says. "Hopefully we won't have to," Kit agrees. "I don't know if it's over yet though." "Probably not," Lathrop sighs. "We do still have to walk outside." "And Geburah said there was something waiting out there for us," Orion grimaces. "Who's Geburah?" Shap asks, but the cleric makes a gesture that means he'll explain later. "Ravens!" Jesse Ventura calls out, stepping out of the ranks of his men and smiling. "Good to finally meet all of you. I'm Jesse Ventura, welcome to Minnesota." "Hey, Governor," Kenny grins. "Thanks for coming in." "Sorry I couldn't do it sooner," Ventura smiles back, then look at the Ravens. "Are you all alright?" "After a lot of rest and healing, we will be," Shauna says. "Nice of you to come out here yourself and help us." "I had nothing better to do," Ventura chuckles, looking around at all the dust on the floor. "Is this all of them?" "It better be, Governor," Kit says. "Can you escort us outside, just in case?" "You might want to have some people search the Mall too," Tricia adds, looking at Leah. "Where's Tanith?" "I left her back at the Wicca shop," the female commando replies. "She should be okay. By the way, did anyone notice the Mall's rebuilding itself?" Everyone looks at her with frowns, and she points to a place nearby where masonry is moving back into the walls and reforming of its own accord. "Damn," Doug's mouth falls open. "What's going on here?" "Magic," Winter Blade answers. "Strong magic." Anthony nods in agreement, a strange look on his face. "Whatever it is, I wish my construction crews had access to it," Ventura comments. "Come on, let's get back outside. There we can debrief you." "We have to get Tanith first," Orion says. "The shop's this way?" Leah nods. "Correct. I think she found all the components she needed to help Stephanie, but I'm not sure." "We'll find out when we get there," Kit replies. "Keith, is my sister unconscious?" "Yeah," Keith nods, having picked Stephanie up in a fireman's carry. "Let's get out of this Mall." "Agreed," Doug sighs. "Soon as we find Tanith." He nods at Ventura that they are ready to move out.

As the Governor nods back and starts directing his National Guardsmen into squads that will search the Mall for more zombies or other threats, escort him and the Ravens out, or stay in Camp Snoopy to maintain a central command post, Kharsus and his party grimace from where they are watching nearby. "Your invisibility spell is doing a good job keeping us hidden," Xothux says. "My compliments." "We can't possibly face that many soldiers and the Ravens too," the evil wizard replies. "It was necessary." "We'll get our chance at them," Paul duGaul says. "I am patient." "I must feed soon," Claudia whispers. "My thirst cries out. Why wouldn't you let me taste the witch?" "Once again, damned blood's no good for a vampire," Ty-Ubemngoe answers. "Even a damned one. And she was damned, I could sense it." "I shot her to make her realize she was," duGaul laughs. "I don't think she knew." "I didn't think so either," Xothux agrees. "Strange. I sense another damned person nearby, by the way. I wonder who it is." "Hopefully not a Hellcop," duGaul growls. "We'll kill him if it is one," Claudia snorts. "Send him back to Big Daddy." Schaefer looks worried as they speak, then taps duGaul on the shoulder and gestures at Kit and Stephanie. "Those are obviously my old friend Ian's granddaughters," the French soldier agrees. "I wonder why one of them's unconscious, and they haven't woken her up." "They seem to be getting ready to move," Kharsus says. "We should follow them." "Yes," Claudia hisses. "Hunt and feed…" "Invisibly, of course," Ty-Ubemngoe agrees, grimacing slightly as he continues to watch the Ravens. The others continue watching also as the screen goes blank.

**END RP**

Doug
Friday, January 19, 2001 01:48:30 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.148.dlls.grid.net

**RP HERE, WITH APOLOGIES TO JANNIE**

The screen comes on, displaying John Ashcroft still praying before Cromwell's altar. "After you, Saint Oliver, patron of censorship for good cause, patron of pure Christianity, I pledge to model my life…" "_Saint_ Oliver?" a demon watching from Hell turns to another sitting beside him and laughs. "He actually believes you're a saint?" "Humans often make mistakes, William," Cromwell chuckles in reply to the demon, who is a tall and very robust humanoid figure in a dark blue US Calvary uniform. "That man Ashcroft has made several, though he does not know it. Bob Jones did an excellent job in creating a true disciple out of him- unlike most of my worshippers and agents on Earth, John Ashcroft doesn't just want the power I can give. He genuinely believes in the truth and goodness of Puritan Christianity, the philosophy I espoused in life. He's a good man who lives a good life and wants to do his best to help others do the same, but he doesn't know the trouble he's made himself a part of. He doesn't know Ted and Geraldine are demons, doesn't know about how we plan to destroy Atlanta to open a portal to Hell, doesn't know my true nature…Bob Jones even made him think that Gothmenes, Synatia, and Deavik are Aramaic for Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!" "So he is an easily deceived man then," William says. "No, not really," Cromwell replies. "Just too faithful in his personal conception of the way things are and the way they should be. He's like a lot of humans that way. Reminds me of myself, and you." "So he actually thinks our allies on Earth are fighting the good fight?" William chuckles. "Aren't they?" Cromwell replies with a raised eyebrow. The uniformed demon grimaces and quickly nods. "I knew you thought so," Cromwell says. "Ashcroft thinks so too, thanks to our manipulations." "Manipulation was never my strong point," William sighs. "I just liked killing Indians and rebels." "You were very good at that, my friend," Cromwell says. "Your skills shall soon be useful once again. Ashcroft shall continue to be a useful ally for us as long as we can keep him deceived and hide the truth from him, and that should be easy. On to other matters now." Waving his hand, he causes the display of Ashcroft to disappear and then turns to the jackal-headed demon standing before his throne. "We thank you again, Mikus, for bringing Rousseau's doings to our attention. What does your master, Deavik, propose we do about him?"

The display changes to the Middle East near Abdullah bin Aziz's mansion, where a large group of MLRS mobile artillery vehicles are moving forward. General Earle is sitting in the lead one, talking to his associates on the radio. "Hack, why didn't we know about this dragon thing?" "I have no idea, General," the STRIKE computer expert answers. "We should have at least found something about it when Gubio and I got into his computers- I guess we were too busy messing up the money and fighting off that evil cracker Tyl." "He was probably keeping it in a secret bunker, General," Andrea Grey says. "We know there are a few of those on the estate. Terrell and the caiveh have already cleared out one." "Clear out the others as soon as possible," Earle commands. "First we gotta worry about the dragon, though. What exactly is it doing right now?" "Talking to Lloky," Terrell replies. "It seems intelligent." "Hmm," Earle frowns. "Just give the order, General!" Ivan shouts. "We'll engage that monster even if it means our deaths!" "Speak for yourself, Russkie," Aussie counters. "I want to live through this." "We're almost in position to shell the mansion," Earle says. "Wait a few minutes, and you'll have our support." "We have time for that, I think," says Queen Noor. "There's no one engaging us." "Our soldiers are frightened, though," Amad adds. "This dragon is like nothing any of us have ever seen." "I have seen dragons," says King Abdullah II. "But never like this." "I'm sure it can be destroyed," Earle tells all of them. "What about inside the mansion?" "Michael Marter here," another voice says. "I'm inside the mansion, about to head downstairs from the top floor. Listen, I know about that dragon. It is intelligent, inhabited by the spirit of Apep, the ancient Egyptian god. It's even more dangerous than it looks." "Good to know," Terrell snarls. "What about Gubio, Erin, and them? Has anyone heard anything?" "They're on a different frequency," Noor replies. "We better check it." "Yes, we should," Earle agrees. "I can't start shelling the mansion until I know what's going on inside. Let's get ready to go after that dragon in the meantime. I have a feeling that…" There is an explosion just then, accompanied by many gasps. "Your bad feeling may be correct, General," Amad says. "Yep," Terrell agrees. "That dragon just turned around and spat a fireball into the side of the mansion." "Our friends could be in there!" Queen Noor shouts. "Let's take it out right now!" There are many cries of agreement., Michael's somewhat pained. "I concur," Earle says, and the screen goes blank.

**END RP FIRST BIT, BEGIN POST!**

Hi everybody. I'm back once again. And now I'm engaged too, as you all know. <smiles, then sighs heavily> As many of you have said, it was a thing decided long ago, for which popping the question and getting an answer were only a formality. Still, formalities need to be done sooner or later, and Monday afternoon I just decided to go ahead and do it. Went out and bought a ring, then when I saw Kit after she got off work that day, I took her out and asked her after dinner if she would marry me. She asked me if I was kidding, as I have with that question a few times before. I said no, and produced the ring. Her scream of joy could be heard all over Chili's that night. <grin> Thank you all for your congratulations, we too hope that we will be happy together for a very long time, the rest of our lives and beyond even, and will do every effort to make it so. We thank you all for your help with all that we've gone through since first starting to visit this place. Your friendships are all valued and appreciated. As for a wedding date, well, it's at least a year in the future, and we don't know exactly when. Stephanie and Keith are gonna get married in late May, and we want their wedding over with first. There are other things to settle too, like telling our parents this weekend. Kit and I are confident we can and will make it all work, we'll let you know when we're sure about a date for the ceremony. I can say with pride that we will probably have a house to live in at the least. Yesterday we saw a man about a manufactured home, and he showed us several nice ones, one that was particularly nice. Enough so that we put a down payment on it. Now we just have to find a property to put it down on, and the man who helped us get the home is helping with that too. :) We'll probably find somewhere by next week. Keep wishing us luck if y'all want, we might still need it. :) Not much other news to report- Kit is getting settled into her classes this semester okay, I'm enjoying being without them. At work last night, somebody did an armed robbery on the store right next door to the Wal-Mart whose parking lot I was patrolling. I didn't see the guy, but the police did show up and search my store and its surroundings for a man fitting his description. They didn't find him. <sigh> Worrisome development, isn't it? At least things have been quiet for weeks in my company's jurisdiction. :) Oh well, on to replies.

Jannie: Kit and I didn't know about your family's history with Ashcroft, so we must apologize for any unjustified maligning we have done of him in the RP lately. We don't know the guy ourselves, and given our bad history with overly religious people (Shap is the only one we've met in years who's been a friend to us, and he's pretty liberal for a born-again Baptist), we assumed he was just another guy cut from the cloth supporters of the Conservative Christian Reich generally are. But if you say different, Kit and I value your opinion as a friend, and therefore we believe you. Hence we have changed our RP set-up for the guy as you can see in the scene above. This story should be somewhat more interesting than the original plans we had, so I think we owe you some thanks for inspiring the idea for it. Thank you. <grins> And don't worry, we'll set things up so he learns the truth of his mistakes at an appropriately climactic moment and turns on Cromwell and the rest to positive effect. :) Again, we are sorry for maligning him before now. We've seen him on TV pledging to uphold the laws since then, and like you we think we can probably trust him to follow through. :) Thanks for your congratulations on our engagement. Kit and I are glad you're doing alright health-wise, and wish you good luck in becoming a 911 dispatcher. That is a very important job, without the people in it cops, paramedics, and firemen would not be able to operate as efficiently as they do. In that way, dispatchers save lives. I'm sure you'll make a good one. Hope you enjoy the job, and please let us know how the quest to get into it goes. Kit and I too are fans of Judd Nelson. :)

Lain: A detective agency with you, the Baron, Nadia, Valentine, and Atilla? Sounds like a pretty good group if you ask me. I wish you luck in all your cases. Condolences on the losses of the best friends you mentioned, I understand your pain. I've felt similar pain myself many times, with similar relationships and people involved. <sighs> It was not pleasant for me, I'm sure it wasn't for you either. You seem to have gotten over the pain pretty quickly, though, and that's good. I still feel it sometimes. :( But spending time with the friends I still have helps me as much as it does you, so it's not that bad. <grin> There's nothing wrong with feeling such pain even though it hurts- it comes from caring. And caring about their friends is something all people should do, it's the prerequisite for being able to help them. :) Just keep coming in here whenever you feel despair, we'll do our best to help it go away. <reads bit about injustices taking place in the world, sighs> Thank God I don't live in a country where such things go on, they dismay me incredibly. I hope and pray that someday the world will abandon such practices. For now, though, I can only contribute to Amnesty International and pray for the victims and their souls. :(

Guandalug: Archive's looking somewhat better, but there are still too many duplicates of all the files and authors on there. I checked on my stories, they seem to have all loaded back in perfect condition. Thanks for taking care of it. Keep up your work, though, I know you still have a lot. Best of luck with it. :)

Christine: Good to hear Becca's tooth is okay, I've been pretty worried about her since Sunday. I too have had teeth knocked out, like almost everyone. It's not fun. I'm particularly glad the tooth was one that's gonna grow back- crowns can get pretty expensive. Good luck to her and you in avoiding future mishaps of this sort. Thanks for the congrats!

SJ: Congrats on surviving that awful Christmas, at least you got a load of decent gifts. :) Congrats on finishing your huge load of finals too, and on finding a computer with a working modem. Hope you can soon get a better machine than what you have, though. As computers go, Packard Bells are practically built by DC. :( Nice to hear that someone liked the Simpsons episode last week, I thought the animation festival had its moments but fail to see the humor in abortion clinic bombers, Japanimation cliches, or the episode's main plot and its really dumb ending. Maybe it's just cause I consider myself a pretty smart guy and didn't like seeing Homer give up being someone similar. <shrugs> Like you said, to each his own. I agree with you about Jim Carrey, he needs to develop more diverse gags. There are still many funny skits of his that I like to watch, though, particularly from The Mask and Liar Liar. :) Glad to hear a sequel to Rush Hour is coming out, thanks for the info. I enjoyed that film a lot, especially since Rock and Chan made a good duo. Didn't enjoy Shanghai Noon so much, I don't really like Lucy Liu and no movie that maligns the Duke gets on my favorites list. I didn't think it outdid Blazing Saddles as a parody Western either. But if Jackie Chan wants to make a sequel to it, that's within his rights. Hope many people are able to check it out and enjoy it. I probably won't. :( Thanks for the Spiderman and Iron Fist movie info as well, both those movies are on my list-to-see. Good bit about Ashcroft also, now that I think about it I too am disgusted about how partisan politics and ridiculous issues may block him from getting a job he can do and probably do well. Especially if he's really as good a man as he seems and Jannie says he is. Thus I've changed plans in the RP. :) I wish Mr. Ashcroft luck, he's probably gonna need it if Ted Kennedy filibusters like he's threatening to do. <growls>

Archwolf: I think I can sympathize with you about your father. I've felt the same way about mine many times. He hasn't made me want to do anything as drastic as change religions though. Glad that things for you and Aingeal are going well, hope they keep up.

Lady Corax: Okay, I'll accept that right. <grin> Thanks for the congratulations on graduating, hope to give some to you soon. Thanks for the congrats on the engagement too. Glad you had a computer guru around to help with those problems, such people are among the world's most valued resources right now IMO. Also glad that we both enjoy listening to Garth Brooks.

**SPOILER WARNINGS**
Some good movies came out last Friday. "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," had very nice acting, writing, and fight scenes. Excellent characterization and development too, especially on Jen. The movie's ending was anticlimactic, and there were a few plot holes and cliches, but nothing to complain about really. Anti-Trust wasn't as good as I was hoping it would be, especially disliked seeing Rachel Leigh Cook screwed by a script again. She can act better than any teen star I've seen outside Buffy, Hollywood should give her more interesting and well-written roles! <sigh> The movie did have nice acting and some good characters (Bob, the security guy, was my favorite), but it was overall too predictable and boring. Needed better writing in a major way. This weekend, Kit and I will check out The Pledge, Jack Nicholson's latest. Hope that it's good.

Simpsons was alright this week, I thought. It had some good Marge and Bart moments. The main plot was too predictable, though, and too absent of character development considerations, and for once I really wanted to kill Principal Skinner. The guy usually cracks me up, but not this time. <sigh> I too hope Sideshow Bob makes another appearance on the show soon. Enjoyed X-Files, it had an interesting plot, nice emotional broadcast, and some good acting. The script was decent too, despite many holes and cliches. I must say that I'm really getting tired of these weekly monster eps though. They focus too much on the characters we're only gonna see once, and their situations. I'd far prefer they go back to developing the meta-plot, and Doggett and Scully's relationship and characters. Hope this happens next week.

Good to see TGS Gargoyles back in action. Like Kirshanta, I did not enjoy the first episode's rushed feel and lack of detail and buildup, but it was still nicely written. Good setup of the conflicts, I particularly enjoyed the mystery surrounding the Illuminati and their plans for Matt. Good bits with them, Duval was sufficiently mysterious and nicely developed. Lee was a good shock character too, hope she becomes more than that though. The scene with Brooklyn lying injured was good also, especially in Broadway and Sata's developments. Hope that Goliath and Elisa soon get another chance to announce their engagement, and are able to go through with it. I'm wondering about the snipers and who they're working for, hope we find out next week. Overall, the episode was a good opener, but could have done with more buildup and detail in its plot. It was missing some illustrations also, several scenes could have done well with them. Hope these mistakes are not repeated in part 2.

Angel was once again excellent this week, so much so I wonder if Joss and co. will be able to top it. Dru and Darla made a great villainous duo, as did Lilah and Lindsay, both of whom I'm glad are still around after the massacre at Manners's party (I'll miss the senior lawyer, though. He was a very well-written character. Well-acted also. Like most of Whedon's villains, I know). The dialogue between the villains was very well-written, and the scenes were well-acted also. It will be interesting to see where the developments that happened go, watching them take place was a very entertaining experience. :) Angel's development was well-written also, I enjoyed his interior monologues and fights. Darla's comment on what he's become was an interesting development also, I too wonder who he is now if not Angel or Angelus. Seeing him standing there with the cigar when they opened the warehouse door and then him throwing it down made me grin let me tell you. :) The ep's only real weak point IMO was Gunn, Wes, and Cordy. Their development was well-written and well-acted, but a little predictable also, and the scene of them singing was thankfully brief. Still, I did enjoy Wesley and Virginia's conversation about what else he can do besides fight evil, and the trio's fight with the demon was also good. Wonder what they'll call the hero agency now, without Angel on the team. Overall, I give this week a 9/10, hope to see as good writing and acting again and again as the season goes on. I agree with SJ that either Dru or Darla probably won't survive it, we'll have to see how things turn out.
**SPOILERS END**

<moment of silence for Bill Hewlett> May he forever be remembered fondly for the technological gifts to which he gave development, and may those gifts continue to be used productively and spread around the world. :)

Coyote: Thanks for the congrats, don't worry, your best man speech was pretty good. I do have to say I hope Shap has a better one for us when our wedding time rolls around though. :) Congratulations to you on surviving till the thaw, hope it is continuing to occur in your part of the world. Kit and I continue to send our prayers just in case. We're still suffering from many bouts of cold here, me especially (it sucks having to patrol a parking lot in cold weather with a heater that doesn't want to work in the cold, believe you me). Thanks also for the good luck wishes on the house hunt, hopefully it will be over very soon. Good luck with the water situation and the bursting pipes.

Robby: Thanks for your congrats by e-mail, Kit and I will definitely let you know when we set a date. As I said above, it won't be for some time, but it is going to happen eventually. :) Thanks also to Jim for his congrats and the shoelace. I'm not sure how we'll use it, but we'll find a way. Good luck getting back in here soon, we miss you. One other thing- the frostfire email account is defunct as well, it can receive but not transmit, been doing that since October. Please use the Yahoo address below, it works fine.

End Part 1.

Doug - [DougElder21@yahoo.com]
Friday, January 19, 2001 01:47:49 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.148.dlls.grid.net

All right, so I haven't recalibrated in a week or two. And I was about a second late on the click anyway.
And I forgot my tagline.
Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:50:06 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Lain> <<I need stuffing.. like a trukey>>: I'm going to have to say that that line puts all the blame squarely on your shoulders. Or maybe mine for helping to bring the tentacle and baster thing to a frenzy in the CR.

Fire Storm> <<Ranma 1/2 is wierd>>: But oh so addictive.
<<He always seems to be drunk/stoned on the set!>>: He pretty much is. If you stop by Jersey sometime you might be able to ask him. Not sure if he works at the Stash much anymore. He used to.
<<It tis the seventh sign, my friend>>: I say it's the ninth. You know, after armageddon when everyone orders out for pizza, or maybe a Fat sandwich. I haven't had a Fat Koko in over half a year. Shame, that.
<<Why does every family night/night alone end in violence/trauma/a injured person being brought in?>>: I vote it's because the writers skip all the boring ones.

Warpmind> <<I think you linked an older version of the RPGMaker>>: Hmm. I would assume the same site would hold all updates. Whatever.
<<As for my costume, was I *that* obvious?>>: I don't know. I hold a lot of strange information up in my head. But then, he is one of your characters, when you mention something, it would be more likely to come to mind.
<<'m about to make you envy me>>: That's not incredibly difficult.

Mary Flanders> <<I've always liked learning bad words>>: In contrast to me and my insanely puritanical vocabulary. Though I do know a couple French ones. Tip: never make "to see" reflexive.

Daniel Johnson> <<Why do we need sinuses anyway?>>: I'm voting for filtering of air.
<<if every other network time server in the world is 30 minutes fast>>: That, the Naval Observatory, and Rutgers. A little while ago, I checked my watch at time.gov, then posted and was off by 29 minutes 59 seconds (I think I was a little fast on the submit), and my watch is well synchronised with Rutgers time.
<<I want that tie>>: Of course.
<<it's him all right, just a little grayer>>: That is to be expected. It tends to lend an air of respectability to most people, though I don't think that'll ever quite happen with him. Did you know some of the current faculty used to be his students?
<<I had forgotten about the ties>>: I would have thought that to be impossible.
<<Didn't you know yet that all children are mutants?>>: Or, as official medical notation: FLK. Short for Funny Looking Kid. This has reportedly been used in New Hampshire.
<<But only if we can watch>>: There's always porno dreams to make up for it.

DPH> <<when the sum of the digits of the month and day equals the product of those same digits>>: Which equals the average of the squares...

Daniel Johnson> <<if I am, feel free to point and laugh>>: Ha ha ha. Seriously, though, I think I remeber her from a whild back. You know, after latin, -a suffixes on names tend to make me assume female. That last bit was just covering myself in case I was wrong.
<<How many licks does it take to get to the center of the comment room?>>: An average of 142 (between a min of 75 and a max of 200). No, wait that's a tootsie pop. I'd assume you'd need more for the CR.
<<Daniel is in a somewhat wacky mood tonight>>: One of the best kinds of moods.
<<Although the Doctor is pretty disturbing too>>: He's an engineer (see deboning machine). He must be good.
<<Someone kindly whack me in the head with a heavy, blunt object>>: I thought you'd never ask.
<<This post is really at 10:35 pm EST>>:This one is 12:18:30 -5 GMT.

Rodlox> <<i have no idea what this guy looks like>>: Dumlao used to be administrator way back when before I heard of the place. Fire Storm, are you going to put up a warning on the dropdown after the overhaul?
<<@home seems to have gotten rid of hte BACK <- Button>>: Ctrl <-. Or right click.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:48:25 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Rodlox:
Dude, you're dead meat now. >:)

Off to bed.

At the tone, the time will be 11:59 pm EST

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:29:33 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Hmm ... I do believe that Daniel is right about the clock being a half hour or more slow ... I'll have to find out exactly when Milady Corax made her post, since it was definitely past 10:47 my time ...

Ergh ... local TV news just had a tape of Spence Abraham's Senate confirmation hearing for his Cabinet post as Secretary of Energy ... and who's over his shoulder? John Engler, the governor of my state, dozing off. **groan** I've met the guy, folks, he's not *that* lazy. Of course you know how this is gonna look to the rest of the country ... **groans, hides his face**

Oh, BTW, aside to Milady Corax: Haven't gotten a score, but I'm wondering how your guys are doing with Olsen back on the bench. ;)

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:13:06 PM
IP: 216.28.101.15

*looks panicked*
i thought you guys said that that one was availiable only to CR workers and TGS staff...oh crup, me in trouble now!!


Rodlox
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:12:48 PM
IP: proxy3-external.owml1.md.home.com

<-i have no idea what this guy looks like.


Kyryn & Fire Storm & TGS Staff: I have no complaints - only the highest praises for all of you. I am aware of how long and hard you all work to show us the marvels that you do, and that none of us have the right to complain or in any way demean {or even ATTEMPT to} your wonderfull works!! this is a labor of love, for which you recieve no $$$, and the weekly updates are an ideal, a target - not a solemn vow punishable by *tries to think of suitible punishment, now that i've already threatened someone with cloned Warps* by horrid means.

{no, they didn't pay or bribe me to say that - I work on a Virtual Season myself!}.

Lynati: what email??

**computer update: well, now @home seems to have gotten rid of hte BACK <- Button...and I have to do contortions {figuratively - stop selling tickets, whichever one you are!} to access my bookmarks.

Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:11:49 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

IM's for sale! IM's for sale! Just kidding, Coyote! ;)

SJ, Coyote> I'm gluing myself to the TV for Survivor II!!! Although I'm going to have to find myself a new guy to root for since my man Rich is gone. And Rudy's gone too...I liked him. He makes some darn funny commercials now, though! :)

Hm..."Tentacles and Turkey Basters..." I'm not even gonna say how bad that sounds. :) But yeah, I know how bad trying to think at 2 AM can be...;)

Anybody else hear that ol' George Dubya just met with Ricky Martin? From the rumors I hear, Dubya even tried one of Ricky's dance moves...:) **drifts off into dreamland thinking about Ricky Martin**

Lady Corax
Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:47:18 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Ok, this off-by-30-minutes-CR-clock-thing is really bugging me. I am now officially obsessive. Someone kindly whack me in the head with a heavy, blunt object.

Talkative tonight, ain't I?
This post is really at 10:35 pm EST

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:05:15 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Lynati:
More to the point, is Warpmind aware of this shiny blue "shirt"...fascination...that you have?

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 09:57:28 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Lynati:
Oh, yes. Of course. Shirts. Shiny, blue shirts. And what do you do with those "shirts", Hmm?

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 09:45:48 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Daniel Johnson: Shirts! I was talking about shirts!
Lynati
Thursday, January 18, 2001 09:26:53 PM
IP: 207.226.219.68

Kirshanta:
::Blink:: Waitaminute. Are you new, or am I just losing my mind again? If I'm not, welcome, and if I am, feel free to point and laugh.

<<(why Oh why would you choose such a name)>> I dunno; why Would you choose to capitalize a word in the middle of a sentence? Such are the great mysteries of life. ;) Actually, my parents chose it when I was born. Well, my first name at least. And my middle name, Bruce. Good Scottish name, that. My last name was a forgone conclusion. Although my great-grandfather's name was Johanson before immigrating here. Good Swedish name, that. I think I would have preferred it.

And the moral of this story? Be careful what questions you ask Daniel because you might find out far more than you ever wanted to know. Or just a silly answer.

<<I'm enjoying your comment room adventures.>> I live to serve.

<<How many takes are we up to now?>> How many licks does it take to get to the center of the comment room?
----
DPH:
<<Well, it looks [as though(sorry, couldn't help it)] you are a lot older than I am>> Eh, sonny? You'll have to type a little bigger. My eyes aren't what they used to be. :P
Hey, you're right! We should sue the studios for discriminating against people with running noses! Phlegm power!

*** NOTE: As can be construed from the above text, Daniel is in a somewhat wacky mood tonight. He hereby reserves the right to deny that any of this actually occurred. Thank you for your attention. ***

Speaking of Survivor, which I wasn't but Coyote was, there is a bizarre and twisted parody called Ultimate Survivor at www.killfrog.com.
11 Castaways,
One Island,
One Item Each,
Only One Rule...
Eat Or Be Eaten.

Warning: This Parody Is Rated "S" For Sick.

I think the Evil Pigs See, Hear, and Speak are my favorites. Although the Doctor is pretty disturbing too. They'll be starting a sequel soon set, coincidentally, in the Australian Outback. And that can mean only one thing...lots of dead kangaroos.

\|/ Click, if you have the stomach for it.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 08:51:21 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Just a couple things tonight...

Coyote: Yes, I do intend to watch the next season of Survivor. I mean, I have sincere doubts that the new season will be as good as the first--the first was one of the better things on TV last year, I think--but there are some interesting things I've heard about the new show that make me hopeful that it won't be a dud. For instance, the "mannish" security guard woman shown in all the previews? She *married* her stepson. I mean....that's just a little freaky. Also, I've heard a rumor that, at some point during the season, one of the "survivors" almost dies. Here's hoping for a snake bite (non-lethal, or course) or perhaps a nice croc attack!! ;)
On the programming front, though, NBC has already stared down CBS and blinked. They're gonna air an additional 10 minutes of friends to compete with Survivor, so it looks as if they are in a bit of a panic. It's kind of stupid when you think about it, though...most people tune into the *last* 20 minutes of Survivor, to see who gets booted off, than they do the first 40 minutes. If NBC really wanted to win against Survivor, they'd move Friends to compete with the last half-hour.
Or, as one local radio station has suggested, they should just air 20 minutes of closeups of Jennifer Aniston's breasts. I might have to tape Survivor instead if they did that. ;)

Fire Storm: Are you familiar with Jason Mewes (sp?) and his history? He's a incredibly funny guy, but....um, the reason that he always sounds stoned or drunk is because most of the time he *was* stoned or drunk. Dude did a little time in the poke, I think, or at least a little in rehab. Snootchie Bootchies.
By the way, do you have a copy of Happy Scrappy Hero Pup? ;)

Staking Dru: I've given this some thought, and I think that , the way Angel is degenerating, before the season is over either Darla or Dru will get staked. I don't think both of them will, but I definitely think Angel will do one of them in. Maybe Darla, maybe Dru, but I'd say odds are good that both of them don't make it out without a piece of wood sticking in their chests.

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 08:37:02 PM
IP: 207-172-119-53.s53.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Daniel Johnson - Well, it looks you are a lot older than I am and that eliminates you from being my clone. I was born just before the 80s, relatively speaking. Why is it that we never ever see Hollywood stars with runny noses?

Speaking of clones, I was going to send a hologram of myself to work, but I just could not get it to work. You see, when I installed my morals first into the personality, and then the rest, the hologram just wouldn't run. I got some message about the data is completely illogical and inconsistencies in behavioral patterns. When I finished installing all of my personality but the morals, the hologram started looking around to hire mercenaries to take care of some of my RL problems.

1+1=3

**RP RELATED**
BFTS RPers, please check egroups and respond whenever it is convient.

Oh yea, today is my last BFTS RP until a day when the sum of the digits of the month and day equals the product of those same digits.
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
*the mountainside near where the battle occured*
With no living being observing, a portal opens and closes seconds later, with a body falling to the ground. The body ends up in a hidden cave that is concealed from the eyes of all living beings.

*DPH's house, hours later*
"So why are we waiting?" asks a Speed Star.

"We will wait until DPH returns to destroy him and his car," replies another one.

*Inside DPH's car*
Plastique is driving to DPH's house. DPH is still unconscious.

*Outside the ruins of DPH's house*
Suddenly one of the Speed Stars says, "That car coming this way looks like DPH's car. let's destroy it and take no chances."

With that, all Speed Star's weapons turn to DPH's car and they start firing. Seconds later, DPH's car explodes into a ball of flames.
**END BFTS RP**
Did Plastique and DPH surive the destruction?
Did ITAG warn Plastique about the ambush?
Stay tuned for these answers and much more when DPH posts BFTS RP again.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 06:03:31 PM
IP: max1-34.cwy.cei.net

lain: Uhh ... **raises eyebrow** yeeeeeeah. Okay. **smiling and nodding, mind thoroughly blown, then turns to Lady Corax and asks in a stage whisper** hey, people can't bribe you for *our* IM's, can they? ;) j/k

FS: Update on my water situation? The hits just keep on coming ... we actually had a *third* break occur, right at the house's main valve. Because of that, we had the city do an emergency shutoff of our water until we can get the pipes fixed ... which hopefully will be by the weekend. I'll e-mail ya more. :)

Interesting potentially useless side-note: The upcoming second season of Survivor will have two contestants from Michigan ... including one Keith Famie from West Bloomfiled who happens to be a TV personality locally (he's a chef who does bits for the news broadcasts on Detroit's NBC affiliate ... ironic, no? :).
Considering I know SJ was a watcher of the first season and I don't know if anyone else watched it ... I might have to start watching it, actually. Hell, it's better'n "Friends." :)

**stumbles out of the room**

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, January 18, 2001 05:33:56 PM
IP: 216.28.101.53

Hey there Gasper (offers a slightly out of focus peace sign)
Smooth sailing man.

Christine - Glad Becca's Ok. Hopefully she'll have all her tooth trouble when she little and won't remember it later. (Although maybe not such a good thing for you...)

Mary Flanders - Good for you. Most of the coolest people I know are the ones who always manage to surprise. Keep it up.

Daniel Johnson (why Oh why would you choose such a name) - I'm enjoying your comment room adventures. How many takes are we up to now?

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 05:20:47 PM
IP: g68-241.citenet.net

That was weird. Oh, well. Sorry for the spam. Off to see my mother.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 05:01:25 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

OK, now I'm getting annoyed.
Take three.

Ah, Thursday. My day off. I slept ALL morning. I wish my nose would stop running though. Why do we need sinuses anyway? All they do is run or get stopped up. Blech.

Kyryn:
No problem. I can definitely relate to being sick though; I'm still getting over my most recent cold.
----
Fire Storm:
<<sick>> I feel for ya man.

<<The pill or the band? :)>> Oh, the pill, definitely. :) They should just put this stuff in the water supply and be done with it.

<<Ahh... or is it that your computer is fast?>> Well yes, my computer is quite fast... oh, you meant that the *clock* was fast! That's certainly possible, if every other network time server in the world is 30 minutes fast. Hey, it could happen!

<<HTML stuff>> Two words: HTML Tidy. get it at <http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/>. It's free and open source, and has been ported to virtually every platform on the planet. Using the UNIX command line version I did the following:
tidy -m --word-2000 yes waystation1.html
That cleaned most of it up, but there were still a lot of empty <p> tags so I ran it through again:
tidy -m waystation1.html
Then I tweaked a few things with a text editor. It took about 5 minutes. The result is linked to my name. It could be made even smaller by cutting out much of the whitespace.

<<TGS Question: Why does every family night/night alone end in violence/trauma/a injured person being brought in?>> Because it would make for a boring story otherwise? :) Actually, it would be nice for them to get a break occasionally. Just for variety. ;)
----
lain:
All I have to say is that you are a very silly person. I approve of that. I've had IM conversations like that before. It's amazing what your mind can come up with at 2am, isn't it? Hmm. Turkey basters and tentacles, huh? I can only begin to form the merest possibility of speculation as to what these secret conversations with GB must be about. >:)
----
Gside:
Oh, I want that tie! ;) Yep, it's him all right, just a little grayer. I had forgotten about the ties.

I do know of programs to haxor-ify text, but I think you're right about going the other way: I've never known anything written that way that was worth reading.
----
Christine:
Didn't you know yet that all children are mutants? Glad she's OK.
----
Gasper:
Good luck and be well. We'll leave the light on.
----
Lynati: (yes I know I'm jumping around)
<<lain/Valentine: Now is prob'ly not a good time to mention how much I love shiny blue things, is it?>> Hey, now! This is a family comment room! Take that to the Adult CR. But only if we can watch. >:)
----
I don't know how long I can hold out. PowerBook G4 Titanium. Pure titanium shell. Carbon fiber composite frame. Slot load DVD drive. 15.2" wide screen display. 5.3 lbs. Fastest laptop on the planet. One. Inch. Thick.
To quote Will Smith: "I've got to get me one of these!"
::Drooool::
::Slap! Slap!:: Must resist. Don't need another computer. Must resist.
Resistance is futile.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:57:17 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**LC comes in laughing terribly hard** Oh, lain! That's such a funny IM chat thingy! :)

Christine> That's cool that Becca's tooth was a baby tooth! And even cooler if she's a mutant...because I lost the molars right behind my canines twice! I thought I was the only weird one who did that. :) Glad that she's okay, though! :)

Lady Corax
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:55:58 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

ALRIGHT !!!! More gargoyles.

But, is it just me or did this one feel like it was written in a real rush. I mean no detail, no buildup, no trueness of character and, excuse the criticism, but a few places where the story jumps from one sentence(and one subject) to another so quickly the reader is left confused.

I suppose we've been spoiled in that most of the stories were 45 pages long with immense richness in both detail and storyline. I feel somewhat jilted. Especially since they had more than a week to write it.

However, it does pique our curiosity and we can't help but wonder about Brooklyn's delirium. All in all, good intriging storyline. But somewhat unsatisfying.

Or was it just me?

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:55:08 PM
IP: g68-241.citenet.net

Waaah! What happened? Good thing I typed this up in a text editor.
Take two.

Ah, Thursday. My day off. I slept ALL morning. I wish my nose would stop running though. Why do we need sinuses anyway? All they do is run or get stopped up. Blech.

Kyryn:
No

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:54:01 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Ah, Thursday. My day off. I slept ALL morning. I wish my nose would stop running though. Why do we need sinuses anyway? All they do is run or get stopped up. Blech.

Kyryn:
No

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:46:30 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

*enters*

Personally, I've always liked learning bad words. >:) I remember when I was about 6 or 7 years old, when I came home from summer camp every day on the bus with the teenage kids, I would always ask them to tell me curse words. Unfortunetly, or fortunetly (depending on how you look at it), none of the kids told me real "naughty words". "Horse's butt??? How's _that_ dirty???" Plus, in Germany, cursing is an every day thing, so my german teacher never got mad at me for cursing "auf Deutsch" in class. ;P She just got surprised!

But thanks to my Dirty German Phrase Book, I know how to say 'useful' stuff like, "Sh!t! The rubber burst!" and "I don't know if your come on will work, but I like it" O.O

I can be rather shocking at times, no? ;P

Mary Flanders
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:46:07 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*Lynati Enters*

A picture today, methinks.

Firestorm:<Darla/Dru> Vamps in the Buffy "Mythos" have a connection between Sire and Childe. Angel can still "feel" Darla; Darla herself might feel it when Dru dies. Besides, for all her craziness, Dru IS a profit. She can see things others can't; she knew Angel was close. You could learn your future from her if you could sort out her ramblings. She's too useful a tool to be wasted, even if she wasn't family.

Rodlox: <Brooklyn stuuf> Yes, Brooklyn DID do a lot of good stuff while timedancing- stuff that the clan can NEVER learn about, not until Sata writes it down in the waaay distant future. He's not gonna get any credit for his timedancing ventures until he stops pretending that he can't remember any of it and tells people what happened.
In the present time, the clan isn't aware that he's done anything deserving of honors. (Not any more so than any of the other clan members, at least. Everyone had a part to play in the recent craziness.)
Also- what did you think of the e-mail? Insanely over-informative, eh?

lain/Valentine: Now is prob'ly not a good time to mention how much I love shiny blue things, is it?

Warpmind: Got your e-mail. :) Computer now throws me out before I even start to type in hotmail, and I don't know how long this will last. So to respond...
...Yes, that does sound nice. Perfect, in fact. Do you have a particular one in mind, or is that just a generalized preference on your part?

Jannie: Hey, that's where I'M going this weekend! :)

*Lynati Exits*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:19:09 PM
IP: 207.226.219.41

Firestorm> While I'm not in TGs anymore. I'd speculate that there are family nights the go on peacefully, but they aren't written about. The same way most stories are about conflict and struggle. Very few are about living in perfect happiness.

Stake Dru? Shut your mouth. I like because of the babbling and such. It makes things interesting. Darla is deliciously evil, but way to focus. You need someone like Dru to counterpoint. But I don't think Darla will fill in the spot quite like Spike. A Drusilla whipped Spike is a lot more fun than a Buffy-whipped one.

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:00:59 PM
IP: hal5000.engineering.csupomona.edu

*Warpmind enters, puffing on a thick, dark, smoothly scented cigar.*
Hiya, gang. My landlord returned from the Dominican Republic yesterday. DAMN, but cigars are cheap in the Dominican Republic. ]:)

Gside: No, I think you linked an older version of the RPGMaker, but don't hold me to that assumption. And the game will be quite clean, save a few odd jokes on both the lead character and the NPCs. As for my costume, was I *that* obvious?

Mary Flanders: Thanks for the warning. ];)

Christine: Good about that tooth - let's just hope Becca's not permanently traumatized from the whole ordeal...

Gside: Well, c'mon, we gotta give Gunjack right on that one. At least if we were to be our CR selves. And on the subject... *Grin* I'm about to make you envy me. *Swoops Lynati up in a kiss worthy of Hollywood.* Nyah-nyah. ];)

Lain: That IM printout... ROFLMAO! ]:)

Well, I gotta amscray. *Stares hopefully at cell phone.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, January 18, 2001 03:34:06 PM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

***Kyryn's image appears.***

FS>Yep, I have hand-coded some of the stories in the past, but that was also when I wasn't working and had the time to play with. And, oh man, do you get sick and tired of the thing by the time that you are done with it!

***Kyryn's image disappears.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, January 18, 2001 01:06:51 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Blockbuster is fun! (ESPECIALLY the new $20, 30 Days, 30 DVD's AND the $7, 30 days 30 vhs rentals!)
I have nearly cleared out their anime section and it hasn't been 3 weeks yet!

Ranma 1/2 is wierd... Kite was TOTALLY f@#%ed up. I lika Aika... Did they make a sequel to Gunnm/Battle Angel?
Needless to say, I have made much use of those cards!

Clerks: Rented this and watched it with the commentary... Why do they jeep Jason/Jay? He always seems to be drunk/stoned on the set!

I am sick. Lifting, breathing, stretching, laying hurts. It REALLY sucks!

What's up with Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker DVD? It seems to have been pulled from the shelves! NO ONE carrys it any more! Even the places that SAY they carry it don't have it. Are they re-making it for the more adult viewers?

Daniel Johnson: <Well, that and Prozac>
The pill or the band? :)
<Hey! The CR clock is 30 minutes slow!>
Ahh... or is it that your computer is fast?

In the TGS Staff's defense...
Do you know how much of a pain in the a$$ it is to manually code a story? Thats really the only way to get the purest, cleanest code that will work on every browser.
You have to admit that not everyone has the benefit of having the programs (or the patience) to properly code a story, especially, as in the case for TGS, you are cranking out one of these a week.

Selanit: <Or do it yourselves>
Agreed, that is the best way to do it, but it is just so dang TEDIOUS!

Guandalug la'Fay: <Please, PLEASE stop using Microsoft Word 2000 for generating HTML code>
If you check out some of the past stories, you will see that the code the story is in depends on who wrote the story. What did you use to re-code the stories?

Since everyone seems to have an opinion on the HTML of the stories, can anyone recomend a decent win-95/98/2k/Milenium coder that would make everyone happy? Oh yeah... IT HAS TO BE FREEWARE (Or non-time and feture limited trialware). Oh yeah...
IT HAS TO BE USER FRIENDLY! (And no links to www.userfriendly.org, please! :)

Gunjack: <In a Gargoyles comment room? Who could have imagined!?>
It tis the seventh sign, my friend.

SOROW: <I was wondering, if the gargoyles were having Family Night, why wasn't Demona there?>
Hmm... which brings me to my question...

TGS Question: Why does every family night/night alone end in violence/trauma/a injured person being brought in?

Todd/Kit: <Oh, and I agree with you, Kit, that their singing was definitely terrible>
But very funny at the very least!

Greg Bishansky: <"If every vampire who said he was at the crusifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock. I was actually at Woodstock. Fed off a Flower person and spent the next twelve hours watching my hand move." -Spike "School Hard" >
ROFL! Did Buffy's Spike say that? Man... I gotta find me a sound clip of that or find the episode on my tapes (EEEK! Tape searching! <shutters>)
<click on my name>
Praise the onion!

ANGEL QUESTION: Why dosn't Darla just stake Dru? I know I would! Her constant babbling, talking in riddles...

Coyote: Any update on your water situation?

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:46:22 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

***Kyryn appears on one of the room's vidscreens***

Hi, everyone! I'm staying out of the room until I'm sure that I'm not contagious.

My apologies for going off like I did. All I can say is that 101 degree fevers do not a rational Kyryn make. I've responded via email to those who contacted me or who offered HTML help. Thanks. I'll be seeing what I can do to avoid the MS Word problems in the future.

Christine> That's good to hear. I'm glad that Becca is going to be okay.

Kitania and Doug> Congrats, you two! Please be sure to let me know when the big date is.

Later All!

***Kyryn's visage disappears from the screen.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:18:36 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Rodlox> That is what makes Timedancer better then Quantum Leap and Sliders. Brooklyn occasionally sets wrong what once was right but I don't remember the episode titles 1) Something about pirates 2) His red eyed ugly clones in thinist thread thick sense of the word due to him ruining a spell during one of his dances.
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, January 18, 2001 09:36:41 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-70.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

and no.. none of you are EVER gonna hear what the Green Baron and I talk about on Messenger... never ever...
*assures GB that he is safe.. unless someone offers lain a whole pile of money...*
*smooches*

lain
Thursday, January 18, 2001 01:41:59 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

The winter here's cold
and bitter
It's chilled us to the bone
We haven't seen the sun for weeks
Too long too far from home
I feel just like I'm sinking
and I claw for solid ground
Pulled down by the undertow,
Never thought I could feel so low
In all the darkness, I feel like letting go..

With all of the strength and all of the courage
Come and lift me from this place
I know I can love you much better than this..
(full of grace full of grace, my plan)

It's better this way
I say
Haven't seen this place before
Where everything we say and do
hurts us all the more
It's just that we stay too long
in the same old sickly skin

I'm pulled down by the undertow
I never thought I could feel so low
In all the darkness, I feel like letting go..
I know I can love you much better than this..
It's better this way..
-Sarah Mclachlan

And for the entertainment of the CR.. This is what happens when Valentine and I talk on Instant Messenger at 2am in the morning and I have only had three hours of sleep..
This was a dare.. I am totally NOT responsible for the content of this post..
;)

Valentine says:
I'll still fuss whenever you talk about being empty...
lain says:
I feel like it, though, like I need stuffing.. like a trukey... NONONONONO
Valentine says:
no problem with you feeling like it...
lain says:
NO TURKEY!!!! TURKEY MEANS TURKEY BASTER!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Valentine says:
realized how bad that sounded? ROFL
lain says:
*dies*
Valentine says:
I may just have to quote you on that...
lain says:
jerk
Valentine says:
sooooo funny
lain says:
jerkface
Valentine says:
you'd better be glad I ain't Warps...
lain says:
jerkfacesappyhorselover..
Valentine says:
and that this ain't the CR...
lain says:
oh dear.. PUT THAT AWAY!!!! NOOOOOOOO
Valentine says:
eh?
lain says:
NOT THE BASTER!!!!!
Valentine says:
you mean the tentacle?
lain says:
NOOOOOOOOO EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!!! *flees in terror*
Valentine says:
LOL .. it's a NICE tentacle, though... shiny and blue...
lain says:
the CR is GONNA hafta hear about this..
Valentine says:
about what?
lain says:
me and you and turkey basters and tentacles.. GB has to know..
Valentine says:
*chuckles*
lain says:
you think I am kidding..
Valentine says:
trying to get GB to kill me?
lain says:
heh heh
Valentine says:
actually, it's all YOUR fault.. YOU brought up stuffing turkeys...
lain says:
*sigh*
Valentine says:
And I never did anything with the tentacle...
lain says:
it's YOUR fault, cos yer the man
Valentine says:
LOL
lain says:
and it's always the man's fault.. didn't you know??
Valentine says:
sorry, I forgot... silly of me...
Valentine says:
so, you gonna tell the CR?


And PS pay no attention to whatever the heck Valentine just wrote cos I know he wrote something and that little OIHH WHIFJEFIUGIP^#*&*&Q@HIYF&RE * .. I'll get him..
love and chuckles,

lain
Thursday, January 18, 2001 01:38:03 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Gasper - Hope ta see you again someday, 'Mano... Until then, Godspeed and fair sailing...

And for the record, it's ALL Lain's fault... 8 )

Gunjack Valentine
Thursday, January 18, 2001 01:35:13 AM
IP: 216-146-183-88.bwn.net

Mary Flanders> <<say in Japanese "Bill Clinton is a pervert.">>: Never haven taken taken a class of Japanese in my life, I'd guess "Birru Crintaru no hentai."

Gunjack> <<He oughta get a lod of Gside and Warps... T'would be scared for life, methinks>>: Heh, heh, heh. Actually, I would think I'm a tad more calm in real life. That, and I need a woman.
<<Anyone heard about a translator program that can handle H4xorsp33k?>>: I don't think anyone would believe that someone would want to bother translating a document in said dialect. Though It would pobably be easy enough to write a program to convert haxor characters to standard. The problem after that would be whether they wound up with actual words or ugly mutations (e.g. the -or suffix).

Daniel Johnson> <<I do have some of the Burger King glasses>>: I think we might still have one of the emperor's throne room.
Incidentally, check out my directory. I just put up a couple pictures, one has been altered from the other. And the tie is my father's favorite from this year's crop.

Gasper> Fare thee well.

And for the mp3 rotation, you can now find The Hollies doing Lonng Cool woman in a Black Dress. No, the hollies are not in a black dress, the woman from the song is.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:59:19 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Kit and Doug > congratulations to you both! Keep us posted on the plans, huh?

Becca update > my child is a mutant ... according to the dentist, that one _was_ a baby tooth and there's a new set waiting in the wings. But, dammit, Tim and I are both sure she'd already lost the top two as well as the bottom two. So either we are totally confused or Becca's got some shark DNA that will let her keep growing new rows of choppers as needed ... but at least, weird as it is, it's good news. I was thinking she'd have a hole in her smile until she was a teen and then they'd want 80 grand to fix it, or something like that. The dentist was more concerned about the gash in her gum, not quite bad enough to need stitches though, so we just have to keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get infected. But other than that, it's going to be okay, so thank goodness for that!

Other updates > I will be catching up on some mail and stuff this weekend. "Archmage" revision is progressing, but it's turning out to be a more major project than originally anticipated. Just goes to show how long I've been trying to make it as an author -- the most recent draft was from 1994 ... that is so damn depressing I may just cry ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:01:18 AM
IP: 15-151.075.popsite.net

********Semi-RP Warning*********
-In deep space near the Orion Belt-
Looking at the switch for several minutes, few after recieving the recent data stream, the pilot of the flips the the small metal knob up, and begins transmitting.

"Okay. Well, haven't been here in a while, and really, it doesn't surprise me, as busy as I've been. With other commitments such as school and the new major, I think I gotta be takin' a leave for a while. So, I figured I'd say a good luck and all to everyone here. Granted, I haven't been the greatest person in the world, rather confrontational in some sense, which I hope you could forgive me for. Ah well.

So, The new Garg's Ep was pretty good. I will keep watch on that, I'm sure it'll be just as good as it was before, if not better. Again, kudos."

"Other stuff- My RP, well, I'd rather keep that to myself as Gasper travels through the galaxy, so hopefully you won't be needing a Dragoon for a while. Not that it was much important, but I hope some people found some interest.

Other then that, this is kinda a see ya'll later. Good luck in your future endeavors, and may they be fruitful and beneficial. For me, I've still got a few stories to tell, and a few rants, but those, those are for another time."

"Good luck and Godspeed." Flipping the switch again, Gasper smiles, sets in a new course into space and pulls back the hyperspace controls. The small Corellian frieghter speeds up, and vanishes in a small flash.

****END RP...for now.*******

Gasper S. Keltner - [gasper@icybrian.com]
MN, US
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:56:53 PM
IP: 209.83.84.4


**RAVENS RP here:
Anthony looks around him at the manner that the zombies are being killed - shots at the head - and shrugs. "Okay, I can do this," and starts firing with a practice borne from using projectile weapons before the arbalast's invention.
**END RP - sorry...couldn't think of much this round - and the no-more-than-half-of-day's-content rule from way-back-when. :)

Jannie: <My son thinks that he's Mad TV or has to MiST everything>
Crow: "and that's a bad thing - how, exactly?"
Servo: "yeah, what'd we ever do to you?"
Pearl: "just for that - new movie!
ALL: "NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"

Lynati: don't worry - I was only trying to get you to cheer you up {i'd never be so cruel as to clone WarpedMind}. :)

<In fact, I don't think he's going to die anytime soon at all. In timedancer, Gwen says something like, "Brooklyn? like the honored elder?". Now, Brooklyn may be 40 years older than his bro's now, but I still don't think he yet qualifies as an "elder". And I also don't think that he has yet to do anything that qualifies him to be "honored".>

Well, he is/was/will-be the TimeDancer..."Elder" might simply be a note of how long he's "lived" {if in a non-linear manner}...and "Honored" - c'mon, how many dangerous situations has he defused during his timedances? how many lives has he steered to the right track? {and where's Al and Ziggy?}. :)



Rodlox
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:40:15 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Doug and Kit:
Great big congratulations!! That's wonderful! And I'm sure you'll get the loan situation straightened out.
----
DPH:
<<Were you born before the 80s?>> I remember quite well when Star Wars was originally released. I had all the toys, too. Not a single one survives to the present, unfortunately. Oh, I do have some of the Burger King glasses. Still use 'em. :) Does that answer your question?

**** WARNING: POLITICAL OPINION AHEAD *****
I'm a moderate BTW. ;) At first I was going to say "radical moderate." Makes about as much sense as "reactionary conservative" doesn't it? But sometimes I feel like I must be a radical since everyone else I know is either staunchly conservative or liberal. Is there no middle ground anymore? This country seems like it has become so completely polarized that neither "side" is able to have a rational discussion anymore. It's always Us versus Them. Why does there always have to be a Them? Republicans and Democrats. Conservative and Liberal. Rich and poor. Old and young. Rural and urban. White and black. Men and women. We're split right down the middle and all we do is shout at each other. Both liberalism and conservatism have their place in society. It's good to be conservative when things are working and change would be unnecessarily disruptive. (Something many Conservatives don't seem to quite understand.) It's good to be liberal when things *aren't* working and change is necessary for the common good. After all, what could be more liberal than the creation of the United States?

The members of the Cabinet are the President's lackeys, no more, no less. When he tells them to jump, they should ask "how high." As long as someone is competent to do the job, there is no reason they should not be confirmed. Whatever Ashcroft does, *Bush* is ultimately responsible. As it should be. Let me make it clear that I did not vote for Bush, nor do I agree with many of his stated policies. However, he is the next President, and should be given the chance to show what he can do. If he screws up, well, four years isn't THAT far away. ;) It's time to "bind up the nation's wounds" and start being Americans again instead of being "Liberals" and "Conservatives" or whatever groups we claim to belong too. But that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong (and frequently am).
----
Jannie:
Thanks for the info on Ashcroft. My first impression of him, through the admittedly distorted lens of the media, was fairly negative, but when I saw him testifying that he would uphold all the laws, even the ones he disagreed with, I believed him. If you say that he's an honorable man, I'll trust your judgement. :)

I'm glad that your medical condition is generally good. High blood pressure is tough; I have a friend who eats right, exercises, and takes medication, and yet she still has high blood pressure. My pressure is always low no matter what I eat or how much I exercise. Genetics, unfortunately, is as important as any other factor. :( I'm hoping for you.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:09:38 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Hi! Oh well I was hoping it wouldn't escalate but fortunately it seems like all is well.

Caliope> <No soccer for Nahir> Aww! Give her a great big **HUG** in my name okay? ^_^ <burning dogs and cats> LOL How about a hot dog? ;P <Roswell> It's nice to have new a Buffy and Angel but when are we getting a new Roswell? Hmm when! I can't wait much longer! ;P <wolfie handbook> You bet'cha! It has many other important words like wolfies must give plenty of hugs to Caliope. **HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ** and as many more as you want! ^_^

ED> Some good interesting stuff. It gets the juices flowing and now I really want to read the next story! ^_^

******BFTS RP******

Location: A room loaded with technology

DC and Netlag kiss. "He's gone!"
"Yeah he's gone! Now we can go back to having fun. I haven't done nearly enough annoying lately."

Equus and Shadow phase in out of nowhere with Winterwolf in tow. "You can have all the fun you want once you are stripped of NCA's power." Netlag and DC go to react but DC collapses on the floor as Netlag moves very slowly. Equus and Shadow touch both of them. Equus extracts the understanding and workings of their technology magic. Shadow drains their energy until they lose consciousness. With that they phase out taking Winterwolf.


Location: A magical tower

"What happened?" Winterwolf asks pulling himself out of bed.
"DPH left you to die but I saved you." Equus replied, "Are you okay?"
"I can't remember anything since I saw Frost dying. He saved my life!"
"Yes, I wish I could have saved his. A powerful force vaporized him."
"NCA is defeated?"
"Yes, he is gone. Now rest we will have time to talk later. I'm glad you are well."

******END BFTS RP******

Why do they keep Winterwolf? I wish I knew.

Good night, sleep well everyone!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48:33 PM
IP: 206.15.120.83

Gunjack> yes, John is an honorable man.

Greg> thank you :) I understand that you may disagree with John's opinions and beliefs and that is certainly your right to do so. I did see on the news tonight about John doing a brief interview with one of those magazines, but I believe he explained his view point and feelings on such organizations. This kind of reminds me of when Jimmy Carter did the interview for Hustler (or Playboy, I can't remember which one it was) *chuckles* But, as I said to Gunjack, John IS an honorable man with very strong christian beliefs and practices. True, many call themselves Christians and don't practice the faith - but John walks the walk and talks the talk.

Mary> LOL your incident reminds me of this past summer when I was taking french class.... Denis had been helping me (his native tongue is french) and he taught me the word "con". When I mentioned this to the instructor - an older gentleman - I thought he was going to have a stroke! He became very flustered and told me "no! no! no! Zhanet (Janet) 'diz iz a varedy naughty word!" I was mortified! He wouldn't even tell me what it meant...said it was too nasty to say, especially in front of ladies... I called Denis the next day to ask him what in the world was another meaning of this word - other than he had originally told me and after thinking about it he told me the "other" meaning!!
I could have reached thru the phone line and strangled Den! *L* I was sooooo embarassed!! *blushes* Needless to say, I wouldn't allow Denis to teach me any "new" french words! ;D *pokes Denis* ;p

Kit> yeah, I really love The District =) I've always been a Judd Nelson fan and especially love his role in this show. I don't allow the kids to disturb me because they won't shut up during the show! *L* My son thinks that he's Mad TV or has to MiST everything and Anna thinks it's a good time to tell me about her newest boyfriend or something that happened at work. O.O
Congrats on ya'lls engagement!! =)

I've decided what I want to do for a new job after I've moved to Missouri! I want to be a police dispatcher =D I've always wanted to do something in the law enforcement area, but when I checked into being a highway patrolman/person after high school, I found out that I did not meet the height requirement... I was too short =\ I'm sure they've probably changed that by now, but it's too late for me to do something like that. Anyway, I'm going to check into what I need to do to qualify to be a dispatcher and will apply for the job after I settle down there :) I doubt if I'll be ready to return to the educational field any time too soon.... at least not for 10 years or so! *L*

Medical update: I went to the cardiologist for a check up. I'm doing fine except for the chest pains and a high blood pressure that we can't seem to get lowered. O.o The chest pains could be my stomach acting up again, so he gave me nitro pills to take to see if that helps. He said it was rare that any of the bypasses would be clogged up again this soon. They give an average of 7 years before that happens and with having 4, he said at least one will probably be clogged up by then. At least the main one, the artery bypass, has a longer "life span" and that's the one to be watched carefully - it's the deadly one.
I've had to go on blood pressure medication and have had 3 increases in the mg - but it's still not working. We'll keep trying until we find a dosage that works.

Sorrow> I think your boyfriend should have said something in your defense. I can understand him not wanting to have a confrontation with the man, but did he at least comfort you? support you in private?

*goes back to packing stuff up for storage* geesh, it's amazing how much "stuff" one can collect...
I'm going to Missouri this weekend.. I hope I can find my old snow boots and a heavy coat! b-r-r-r-r

Jannie
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:42:39 PM
IP: 209-144-251-91.hou.port.mytelco.com

**WORK RELATED**
I can not accept it. I just can not accept it. I refuse to accept the illogical of my workplace. All this week and last week, my area has had to send people out of because of lack of work and guess what? My area has to work both Saturday and Sunday. I am not totally convinced that my direct boss was not hallucinating when she said we had to work Saturday and Sunday.

Speaking of my direct boss, she did give me the recommendation. Sadly, I discovered I have to have ANOTHER interview before they will start my background check, which precedes me taking a drug test [last step before being hired].
**END WORK RELATED**

Daniel Johnson - Who said I was the clone? I thought you were. Where you born before the 80s? If not, you're the clone. On the other hand, we could just merge for a moment or two, . . . nevermind.

Gunjack Valentine - I disagree with about needing more liberals in this room. We need more moderates and liberals in this room.

Here's a question: if both a liberal and a conservative newspaper report the same 'facts', does that mean those 'facts' are more likely to be true than if only one of them published those 'facts'?

Why is it so easy to call a white man a racist for one action than it would be to call a black man a racist for a similiar action?

One of the guys I heard on the radio called ABC's 'news' ABC proganda and did not like it because of the type of stories they cover. All news is censorship. The question is what are the reporter's biases (sp?).

**RP RELATED**
For the readers, there is at least more suprise in store for this week.
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
Jason says, "I would stand clear when DPH hears about Equus."

Plastique says, "How long will he be out?"

Jason touches DPH again for a few moments and then replies, "I can not tell. His mind is completely exhausted, almost like it was overloaded. I would suggest you take DPH back home and let him rest up."

Plastique replies, "I will take him home. Do you want to go back with us?"

Jason replies, "No, I am heading back to the Realm. Damn Equus is very powerfull, but maybe DPH with his new spell might be a match."

Plastique replies "Bye."

Jason transports himself back to the Realm.

Plastique loads DPH into the passenger seat and fastens his seat belt. She then gets in the car and starts driving to DPH's home.
**END BFTS RP for now**
Can anyone say 'Ambush at DPH's house'?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 09:35:16 PM
IP: max1-14.cwy.cei.net

**briskly shakes hands with Doug and Kit**

Congratulations, you guys. Let us know when you guys decide to have the ceremony ... you *are* gonna invite us, right? Right? ;)
Seriously, though ... with the kind of love you two've shown for each other in the time I've known y'all, I do believe yours will be a marriage for the ages.

**reads back** Hm, that sounded an awful like a bad best man speech, didn't it? :) (yes, I'm feeling goofy tonight, why d'ye ask?)

XenaTrek: Referring to Damocles, right? He posts very rarely, to be honest. Sorry! **hugs back**

GXB: Whoooooaaa, throttle back there! Let's just see how he handles the confirmation hearing first.
Additionally, might I add that I have a Republican sister in Missouri who is of the opinion that Ashcroft got screwed in the first place on Election Night ... after all, due to manipulation of certain polling places' hours, he *did* lose to a dead man in his Senate race.

Gunjack: I read a transcript of some of the Senate confirmation hearings in USA Today. The racism charge comes up in relation to the St. Louis school system being segregated after Brown v. Board of Education to the point that it's believed Ashcroft helped to keep institutionalized segregation in the district all the way up to '75. Pretty much Ashcroft's opponents are focusing on this with their racism accusations, completely forgetting that part of the cause of said segregation was de facto geographic segregation ... whites moving to the suburbs, leaving the urban areas primatrily black.
Interesting how a filtered POV changes things, hm?

Milady Corax: **waves** Howdy there! Keep calm among all that homework, now. :)

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 09:05:50 PM
IP: 216.28.101.17

Doug & Kit> Wowie-Zowies!!! That's so darn cool!!! A BIG, HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to the both o' ya! You two seriously rock. :) And like someone mentioned earlier, I always thought as the two o' you engaged anyway (even though I knew ya weren't), so this just seems right for the both of you. Very, very cool, and CONGRATULATIONS!!! **hugs both of them** :)

Kit> Yeah, now that you mention it, my roommate's brother *does* sound like Gubio! He just sits and works wonders at computers. Although he looks more like James from Pokemon...he dyes his hair (and goatee) blue, and he has green eyes...hm, maybe I'll have to have him over to fix my computer more often. :) And if I haven't said it enough already...congrats! **admires her ring, hugging some more** :)

Ashcroft> Just throwing in my two cents...I don't really know much about the man myself, but I do know that even though he is against abortion himself, as Attorney General he promises to uphold the Supreme Court's decision to legalize abortion in 1973 (even though he strongly disagrees with it). He also said, and I quote, "I repudiate racist organizations and racists' ideas." Now, keep in mind I don't know anything else about the man, but I thought these were rather interesting little tidbits.

Well, not much else left to say...except have fun! :)

Lady Corax
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:05:44 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*Lynati breezes in through the fabric gate*

Heyla, everyone!

lain: *more hugs to lain*

Kit and Doug: Congrats! Y'know, I'm almost scared to think whatthe CR is going to turn into around the 'ole ides of February...

###Angel Spoilers###
missed the first ten minutes; oops. loved the arguemnet scene immediately turning into an...interesting...rendition of "We are the champions". So the green demon guy knew Cordelia was about to have a vision, eh? Hmm. Liked Darla's confusion; "That's not Angel. That's not Angelous, either. Who WAS that?" yeah, who was that, then?

###gargoyles spoilers###
I don't think that shot, whatever it was, was intended to kill Brooklyn. In fact, I don't think he's going to die anytime soon at all. In timedancer, Gwen says something like, "Brooklyn? like the honored elder?". Now, Brooklyn may be 40 years older than his bro's now, but I still don't think he yet qualifies as an "elder". And I also don't think that he has yet to do anything that qualifies him to be "honored". Angela's older son acted like he knew Brooklyn; but Gwen didn't. That means that Brooklyn died (or permanently left the eyrie building) a short time before Gwen hatched, or while she was to young to remember him. (Unless Artus(?) met him timedancing. (Which I don't think he did.)) Besides, Brooklyn is many people's favorite character, including me. killing him this early in the series would "kind of" upset people; and many would lose at least some interest in timedancer, because knowing how and when a character dies usually causes people to distance themselves from said character, instead of empathizing with him. Brooklyn is one of our stars, and you don't kill a star off on a whim. This isn't like a TV show, where such things happen in order to pick up ratings or because an actor starts making problems. Besides, we're going to have enough issues to deal with without the twins becoming traumatized. Incidently-does Graeme know something Ariana doesn't? Also- this seems as decent a place to mention it as any. Am I the only one who thinks that Brooklyn's comment at the grave site of himself and the other first awakener's- the one about Lex, about it would certainly be funny for him to still be at castle Wyvern because he was dead and buried in Scotland- actually increases the chances of Lex still being "alive" at that date and time? (one of those situational ironies that we don't get the humor of until it becomes truly apparent?) And I have a theory about how that could be true as well, but I don't want to mention it for fear that I am correct and thus ruining the surprise for everyone.
we-ell, thats my two cents.
###End Spoilies###

*Flies an origami hawk across the room, where it lands on lain's head, and curls up next to Warpmind with a smirk.*
Lynati
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 07:32:12 PM
IP: 207.226.219.45

****TGS SPOILERS****
Ed> Unfortunately, I'm thinking the same thing. I just don't want to think of continuing such a great series and not having Brooklyn be there. I always wondered how Artus, Angela and Broadway's son, was appointed as leader in 2158. It just wouldn't seem right if Brooklyn led the clan, died, Artus became leader, and then Brooklyn arrives from his travels. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
****END****

Kit> I was brave today and asked my boyfriend if I deserved those words from that stranger and he said "no", though he didn't approve of my actions. I'm sorry for him, because I strongly feel that I'm in the right. I told my friend that I was disappointed in him for not defending me and he took it pretty hard. I think he's upset at me. *sigh* But since I have friends in the police department, the stranger is being checked out and hopefully written up for road rage. At least that's good news.

SOROW
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 07:12:15 PM
IP: a010-0285.dll2.splitrock.net

* BUFFY THOUGHT - CONTAINS SPOILERS OF A SORT *

This is something that I ought to have posted this morning, but forgot. Watching the repeat of last night's "Buffy" episode where we find out what Dawn really is, I discovered one reason why it's often fun to watch repeats of an episode after seeing many of the episodes that followed it: the new information that you gathered from them causes you to see the repeat's events in a new light.

The episode in question had Buffy encountering the security guard driven mad by Glory and babbling warnings to her, with Ben doing all that he can to silence the guy. The first time around, Ben's behavior merely seems that of a regular hospital worker. But now that we know what Ben actually is, the scene gains in significance. It appears now that Ben knows that the guard was driven mad by Glory, and is hushing him to prevent him from alerting anybody else, desiring to keep Glory's presence here secret from everyone else.

* COMMENT/SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 06:44:06 PM
IP: 216.87.46.117.dialup-stl.primary.net

And now, for some lighter-hearted political commentary.

Click my name! (.jpg, 48.5 KB)

Ooo, ooo! :-)

Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 06:31:58 PM
IP: smit18-103-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu


KIT & DOUG: actually, I always just assumed you two were married {or at least been fiancees for a while}.

that sounded stupid, didn't it? i'm sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorry...


Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 06:06:00 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Gunjack> Don't worry, I'm sure we'll find another topic in which we differ in opinion ;). I've enjoyed many of the debates myself.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:56:38 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

And the Beat(ing) goes on... 8P

Jannie - Thanks for the (limited) info on Ashcroft. I was under the impression that he was an honorable man from the beginning, and I'll continue to assume that 'till I see hard proof to the contrary...

Greg - A pity, truly. I, for one, have really enjoyed the calmer debates we've had... We just need more liberals in here, 'tis all.

Mary><<Beth-san!!! Don't ever say that word!!! It's a very bad word!!!! Don't use it!!!>> Heh... He oughta get a lod of Gside and Warps... T'would be scared for life, methinks. ; )

In more cheerful news, I finished the rough Personal Flamer model for the Germans... Which brings up a fun problem. Anybody know how to translate a german page into english? : P ...I was going to use Babelfish, but it said it's for short documents only, and it doesn't work well on poor grammer. Which, knowing the gaming community, means it won't be much good on a developer's Forum...
Anyone heard about a translator program that can handle H4xorsp33k? 8P

Gunjack Valentine
Leper Gunsmith
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:41:17 PM
IP: 216-146-184-216.bwn.net

Jannie> I had no idea that you, or anyone in here for that matter knew John Ashcroft. If he is the man you say he is, than I definetly with draw any negative comments I have made about him, and if he in the end is indeed appointed, I will give him a chance and see what kind of job he does.

I heard from a few reliable sources that he did interviews for White supremist magazines. Maybe they were passing bad info.

Also, I feel the need to say that just because someone is Christian doesn't make them moral people. I'm not talking about Ashcroft right now, but Hitler was Christian. Basically in every religion, nation or ethnic race, there are @$$holes. And I'll admit, this time I was behaving like an @$$hole, and I apologise once again for it.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:38:19 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Gargoyles: ‘WAYSTATION’ PART ONE

***Post contains spoilers and comments***

Sorow: It’s often occurred to me that dramatically, Brooklyn is the perfect person to ‘kill off’. Considering the nature of the lives they lead and since Brooklyn appears in Timedancer and 2198/2158 as well, he would be the most logical choice as far as I can see if a death was required to show the impact of the kind of lives the gargoyles lead.

Winterwolf: Perhaps. Or perhaps – if it is indeed the Space Spawn, or somebody with the capacity for similarly advanced weaponry – it was designed so that the projectile would not impact the major arteries (which would explain your questions over the angle, although would also be quite preposterously high-tech). I’m not sure that it was necessarily a bullet that was fired. Umm… here’s the description: “The sound the weapon made barely registered in his mind, and he pulled the gun back so fast that he didn’t see the aftermath of his actions.” And later no bullet is found and Goldblum suggested it was very high powered.

Actually though, I think it’s a red herring. ‘Your daughter, she’s gone’ to Broadway could only be Gwen and if so then this seems more likely to be a flashback to the 22nd Century than a real piece of information. After all, Sata would surely have recognised the nature of the wound if Brooklyn had, since Brooklyn was lying half conscious. Unless this exceptionally clever projectile also planted information. But it can’t be that clever or the woman wouldn’t have commented that it was a ‘good shot’. Unless she was being sarky.

Let's hope we get more information next week!

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:34:02 PM
IP: ac82945c.ipt.aol.com

I learned something today. Never asked a native born Japanese teacher if you can say in Japanese "Bill Clinton is a pervert."

Sensei:Beth-san!!! Don't ever say that word!!! It's a very bad word!!!! Don't use it!!!

Me:(in small mousy voice) ok.

Mary Flanders
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:30:31 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

First... John Ashcroft is a family friend of ours. My family has supported and assisted in his entire political career while in Missouri.
He turns down a black applicant and he's automatically a racist?? Could it possibly be that the man was NOT qualified for the job and it had NOTHING to do with his race?? Of course, that doesn't make for smear tactic headlines. O.o
Why is it that because a man is against abortion he's considered a sexist?
I have never seen proof of any of these accusations.
John Ashcroft is a Christian and I think that scares the bejimmies out of a lot of the liberals.
Heaven forbid should someone with some morals be in the White House. :o

Jannie
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:16:05 PM
IP: 209-144-251-91.hou.port.mytelco.com

SJ> I am not playing the victim and I'm not making any of you out to be the bad guys. You're reading my post wrong if that's what you think. That was a sincere apology and yes I recognize that some of my comments were extreme, but no more extreme than other comments that were made in the CR. But two wrongs don't make a right so, I'll withdraw my comments on stoning and burning Ashcroft. I'll settle with him just not getting appointed as Attourney General.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 05:15:59 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Oh Jesus Christ, Greg, don't make yourself the victim. You write about killing a guy (and let's be honest, that's what you were talking about. I don't know of too many people who have gotten stoned with rocks and lived to tell about it), and suddenly it's all of us "conservatives" in the room who are the bad guys for saying that your opinion was a little, shall we say, *extreme*.

For the record, I don't ever recall calling for the death of any liberal politician. If I did, than I was a stupid asshole for doing so, and I was utterly wrong.

You can have your own opinion, but you don't even realize why I thought what you said was wrong. When you talk about Ashcroft promoting hatred, racially or what have you, and then in the same breath advocate violence against him....that's hate speech too. That's intolerance too. I hate racists, and I don't know if Ashcroft is one, but even if he was the biggest redneck, racist piece of trash on the planet, he doesn't deserve to be killed because of those views.

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 04:52:40 PM
IP: 129.174.196.66

Sorry for the third post, but I've been thinking and I decided never to talk about partisan politics in here again. It has caused me nothing but trouble. It's hard to be a Liberal in a room full of Conservatives.

The most I'll ever come to talking about Politics is making fun of politicians and posting links to articles on sites like theOnion.com that make fun of politics from all sides.

Also, I want to apologise to the room if I behaved like a jerk. If it seems that I imposed my views on others, I did not mean to and I apologise. I will not apologise for being Liberal, being pro-choice, pro-gun, pro-drug, pro-gay rights, being an Atheist, supporting the wall between Church and State, and anything else I strongly believe in. I love this country as much as anyone else in here, and want what's best for it.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 04:23:36 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

This edition of Political Ranting has ended, we now return to our regularly schedualsed CR
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:31:21 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Yes, let us drop it. We're not getting anywhere.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:25:20 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*Looks at the Kiaoto/Greg posts, and sighs*

Ah, give it a rest, you too... And Greg, I would appriciate any information on Ashcroft's record you could pass along. I've been in support of the choice based on what I'd heard about him, but this racism stuff is news to me. I'd hate to be found supporting a Chekist.

Gunjack Valentine
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:22:09 PM
IP: 216-146-184-216.bwn.net

Greg: You have a right to your opinion, but your attitude towards information insures that others should not take your views as a reliable source. All you do with unsubstantiated, unsupported allegations is create dissension and hearsay while playing, "Is NOT/Is TOO!" with people.

Honestly, I can do without another dozen or so of such worthless discussions. I'd say just let it drop since it accomplishes nothing than hearing yourself speak or disseminating unsubstantiated rumors.

Of course, then again, disseminating unsubstantiated rumors and hearing one's self speak is a wonderful American tradition we are free to exercise, until someone hauls us into court for it anyways.

Kaioto
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:16:15 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

Oh trust me, I'm making my own judgements. I do A LOT of reaserch when forming an opinion, and I've heard from MANY sources that Ashcroft is one of the most rascist politicians on this country. I don't want him as my Attourney General. And I don't feel the need to justify it anymore.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:05:56 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Greg:

I live in massachusetts. Surounded by college students that haven't worked a day in their lives, Ivory Tower intellectuals from Harvard and MIT, and entitlement lackies in a state with no Republican Party worth taking seriously. I don't let it stop me, though it makes it easy for detractors to ridicule my opinions out for hand for being a "weirdo." I find living and thinking outside the box makes for better thought-process and arguments anyway.

As for what you read in the newspaper.

I'd just be disappointed if anyone here didn't take what they read of hear on the news with a grain of salt. Hell, if you believed half the crappy op-ed pieces that sneak into "feature" or "hard news" pieces you're brain would turn to mush. So many reporters have degenerated into ratings-hungry spin-doctors they'll drop insinuations of racism faster than OJ's lawyers. God help you if you take the editorials seriously.

Kaioto
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 02:38:16 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

Gunjack> I don't have links, but I read about it in a newspaper. I'll confess, New York, especially my area of New York is a VERY Liberal state. It's hard to find a Conservative person around here. So I'll confess, that my views may be colored by my area, like someone living in the Biblebelt is more likely to be religious.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 02:13:13 PM
IP: dialin-565-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Winterwolf:

<<Hmm...

I didn't see Greg say kill him. Are you people putting words in his mouth now? That's not nice. Besides it was an honest rant. If you aren't going to be accurate with your words we might as well all be politicians in here. ;) >>

To quote from Greg's own posting:

**Quote** I'd like to see the men publically humiliated and beaten. A public stoning would be appropriate, or perhaps lighting him on fire. **End Quote**

Generally, Winterwolf, the concept of public stoning involves having a mob of people throw rocks at someone else's person until that person is thoroughly dead. Also, lighting someone on fire against there will usually tends to be direct towards bringing someone else to a state of not-living rather quickly.

Greg: When you want to conduct character defamation in any forum, please, do _Try_ to back it up with actual evidence, and make it something better than other than, "Well, so and so says that he is," or "it's so obvious" or "Come on, everybody else know's its true." That's a right reserved exclusively for Biblethumpers ;) Seriously though, seen too many of those tangents taken lately in a lot of forums. Kind'a lame if you ask me.

You've never met this guy. Most of the people talking about him haven't even learned enough about him in any sort of context to make these sort of judgments. Most of the people decrying him to the media have ulterior motives for defaming him as well, which hardly makes them impartial sources of factual information.

Innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until your partisan politics decides to run a smear campaign or you decide you don't like someone. That's something people seem to be forgetting all too readily.

Kaioto
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 01:49:04 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

hi all,

Angel, great show last night. Definately soaring up my top ten list of heroes. But you know what the real kicker is? It isn't Feb. yet.

In TV land, Feb. is sweeps month where networks put on their best shows. If all of this is happening a couple weeks beforehand imagine what's in store for sweeps.

Ashcroft> Don't know him from Adam other than he's facing confirmation for Attorney General. On the one hand, my view of appointed position is the same as elected. If you do your job, you get no hassle from me. If you do it poorly, your rear-end will be decorating my mantel piece. I may not like his views, but it's a matter of doing the job. But on the other hand, in many appointed posts you rarely get knocked for what you don't do. So there is a higher than usual opportunity to drag your feet or do only the minimal amount required. I don't think Ashcroft would intentionally look the other way or ignore his duties for the sake of his political views, but it may prevent him from doing things proactively. That is the stuff that good leaders are made of. So far Bush is acting to type and unless there is a major emergency early on to prove his mettle I think he'll be considered a weak leader.

Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 01:25:15 PM
IP: 134.71.35.184

Greg><<There is no way in Hell anyone should support his nomination as as Attourney General.>> T'would be my cue, I believe... *grins* <<The guy is a racist. He was against de-segregation, Hell he even did interviews for White Supremist magazines.>> I haven't heard about this before. Can you provide a link or twoto back this up? <<He is sexist as well.>> Evidence, man, EVIDENCE! You can claim anybody is sexist, but you need to back it up. so far, the only "sexist" positions that I've heard about are his pro-life beliefs.
<<As the Attourney General, he needs to uphold "Liberty and Justice" for all, but to him that's only for White Christian males. If Ashcroft became President, he'd be an American Adolf Hitler.>> Ok, NOW I'm starting to get pissed. Not at you, Greg, just pissed in general. This is the second time I've heard this "Crackboy and his demonic minions are out to ruin America" deal. Get a grip, people.
You may not like Bush, but he is, to my understanding, an honorable and intelligent man. He did NOT persue the presidency for the sole pourpose of starting the second Inquisition. And as long as we're talking of intolerance and violence, look to your OWN house. When the people you support ran into trouble with groups they didn't agree with, what happened? 8|
In any case, take a deep breath and calm down. And in the meantime, I'd be HIGHLY interested in any info on Ashcroft and "rascism".
Oh, and that link is broken.

*stumbles out into the twilight*

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:57:06 PM
IP: 216-146-184-195.bwn.net

SJ> First of all, I'm not intolerant towards other people for their religous or political views. I don't hate Republicans, I just hate some of their politics. I do agree with Republicans on Gun Control. I don't HATE George W. Bush, I think he's dumb, but I respect that he's doing what HE thinks is right... I don't think it's right though. I like and respect John McCain. I am tolerant towards other views. I am a Democrat and I hate Joe Liebreman, so this is not Partisan.

John Ashcroft on the other hand is a RACIST!!! The man has ties to the Ku Klux Klan. he's done interviews in their magazines among other White Supremist magazines. That I don't respect, and I morally can't respect.

Also, I never said he should be murdered. I'd like him and his white hooded buddies to be tortured and humiliated though. And I know you've made similar sentiments about Liberal politicians, so don't take the moral high ground with me on this issue.

You have a right to your opinions and I respect that. Though I disagree with you on a lot of things, I also have to say I respect you at the same time. You say things you believe in and you stick to them. I do too, and I find that admirable. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Well, I have to get back to work on my Economics project.

Greg Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:54:33 AM
IP: bess2.lhric.org

*lain steps in for the sole purpose of giving Sevarius Jr a GREAT BIG HUG.. just for the heck of it..
then leaves*

lain
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:02:57 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Hmm...

I didn't see Greg say kill him. Are you people putting words in his mouth now? That's not nice. Besides it was an honest rant. If you aren't going to be accurate with your words we might as well all be politicians in here. ;)

**HUGS ALL**

Love, luck and lollipops

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48:13 AM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

Thank you, Greg, for proving exactly how intolerant those of your political persuasion really can be. Your response to Ashcroft's nomination? Kill him. Slick, real slick.

I COULD go into a nice little diatribe about how isn't it ironic and a little hypocritical how someone who is opposed to Ashcroft's nomination because he (Ashcroft) is (allegedly) intolerant to others is himself so supremely intolerant of another's political or religious beliefs that he proposes murdering the man, but I won't.


Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:11:16 AM
IP: 207-172-52-144.s144.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

CD:Hit the reply to early
CS:Forgot to add END of SPOilers
CD lot of people needs hugs::glides to Sorrow and Lain::
CZ:GXB as a certain princess I lknow would say"No matter how much you despise somone you should never wish death upon them...Justice will prevail in the end.::Notices he standing in a goofy pose and blushes::
ChibiSqaull:I'm hungyr lets go find some snackie treats
Chibi Deliah:Rootbeer and pizzarolls


Chibi's Zel,Squall and Deliah
Orlando, Fl
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:05:07 AM
IP: user-37kapdb.dialup.mindspring.com

The Three Chbi's Deliah,Zelgadis and Squall entered the room

Chibi Squall"Spacie-chan is in la la Land"
Chib Deliah"She got a papercut on her finger yesterday."
CS:"We'll do the reviews"
CD:"I'll handle TGS"
Squall:"I have the X-files..and Zelgadis." They both turn to see a frustrated Zel stand next to a Chibi Xellos in his "That is a secret "pose. Th other two dragg the third off
SPOILERS FOR TGS,X-FILES,AND ANGEL............done by the Chibis
TGS: Very good. Excellent character development. Mom wwants to know more about the mstery sipers. when she got to the end she screamed "NO!" she can't wait til Monday
X-Files. Creepy and interesting. Spacie-chan keeps wondering if the rmakrs about a metal man was a wink at Patrick's performance of liquid metal man in T2
Angel: Very dark Excellent to see that Lindsy and Lilah had survived the masacer. Good bits with the A team and nice to see they found a purpose...We were all cracking up and groaning at their singing. Very good scenes with Dru and Darla. Wowzers at Angel toasitn them. I hope he crawls out of his personal dark pit and reunites with his friends soon.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 09:58:06 AM
IP: user-37kapdb.dialup.mindspring.com

Sorry for the doubel post, but click on my name or go to this URL

http/www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html

Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:42:37 AM
IP: bess2.lhric.org

Hello all, things have been going well in my life. My grades are improving (still have a lot to do), my writing is improving, and I've been able to enjoy myself. The only bad thing that's happened is tripping and landing on my left ear. Currently I can't hear out of it, but it should be better soon, but aside from that life is good.

Hmm, I had another Fight idea, but that thread is gone so I'll just save it for if it comes up again.

Angel Spoilers

A very good episode to night. This show just keeps getting better and better. All it needs is for Spike to join up with them and it will be perfect. He can still kill Angel after all. Darla and Drusilla still make a good duo and I look forward to seeing more of them. Did anyone else expect Lindsay to be a vampire?

END SPOILERS

"If every vampire who said he was at the crusifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock. I was actually at Woodstock. Fed off a Flower person and spent the next twelve hours watching my hand move." -Spike "School Hard"

POLITICS

John Ashcroft> Words cannot describe how much I despise this man. There is no way in Hell anyone should support his nomination as as Attourney General. The guy is a racist. He was against de-segregation, Hell he even did interviews for White Supremist magazines. He is sexist as well. He's discriminatory towards people of other religions. As the Attourney General, he needs to uphold "Liberty and Justice" for all, but to him that's only for White Christian males. If Ashcroft became President, he'd be an American Adolf Hitler. I'd like to see the men publically humiliated and beaten. A public stoning would be appropriate, or perhaps lighting him on fire.

Leave it to Crackhead Bush to appoint him.

Well that's the end of my rant.

END POLITICS

Nice reviews for TGS so far. I have a story in the works for this season, which I expect will be a good one. Sorry, no spoilers from me.

Greg Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:35:57 AM
IP: bess2.lhric.org

Helloooooo!

Eeee I'm back at the comp lab, I think it might have missed me a bit ;)

And so it begins! :P

Kitainia >Thanx! I hope you do good this semester too, you and me both! :) <<At least I'm gonna go to the first day of class feeling happy, for once. >> Realy? Did you get all the classes you wanted, or was it because you did so well? :)

Winterwolf> <<But I feel so loved now! Thank you!!!!>>lol well, I aim to please! *HUGZ* :P <<the wolfie handbook>> Ah, such a wise, knowing book :P <<the lesson>> lol yeah, the one and only then! :P <<Nahir>> Oh, she's doing good, she did very well with her grades as a 1st year college student, but her mother still wont let her play soccer with the night team, so she's kindda upset about that. But besides that, shes good :)

Gside> <<Or do anything else to it either. Dang homonecropyrobestialiacs.>> Yeah tell me about it, burning cats arent too fun either, for that matter ;P

*gasps* There was a new Angel last night??!?! I thought it was a rerun!!!! Aw man!!!!...*pouts*

Ah well, I'll be leavin' ya guys now! I'll see ya!!! *HUGZ all and poofs*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:09:36 AM
IP: 136.145.83.181

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

I quite enjoyed last night's episode. Angel's really getting chilling (particularly the bit at the end where he really lets Darla and Drusilla have it with the lighted cigarette and gasoline); I especially liked the part where the two vampires comment unnervedly that this isn't either Angel or Angelus. The contrast between Angel and his former employees was effective as well (I particularly liked "They're fighting the good fight; I'm fighting the war.") Oh, and I agree with you, Kit, that their singing was definitely terrible :)

So Lindsay and Lilah both survived the massacre. The development for them was good as well, and the note on which they ended it for the episode certainly looks promising. It'll be a lot of fun seeing how they handle being joint heads for the project.

* SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 07:27:49 AM
IP: 216.87.46.187.dialup-stl.primary.net

Kitainia > Thanks for the good luck, I'll be sure keep you and others posted. And its my *cousin* not *sister* (I don't have any sisters)... no biggie, its an honest error. She's a very vibrant young lady... I have been out this much in years. I'll keep you guys posted on her (and mine) career paths.

Sorrow > Re: 'Blob' Boyfriend >> Sorry to hear about your McD experience, I've had people give me hard times about the way I talk as well as about my hearing disability... and so far I have been lucky when others are with me, that they stand up and defend me. Hmmm... I don't think thats a good analogy. Hmmm... *hugs* Me sorry.

LC: >> Don't sweat it kiddo. *hugs*

CoyoteBando, GB, Winterwolf, Stephen Jr., : >> I have no idea what I want to say... so... *hugs*

Hmm... I know I forgotten somebody... er... *hugs to everyone else*

Speaking of people... has anyone see Rene (sp?), I think his handle was Xanatar or something like that. The one from "Oz"... is he MIA?

XenaTrek - [ellislis]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 07:04:16 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

The translation of Tales of Phantasia is much fun. There's deaths, drinking, swearing, time travel, and even attempted underaged prostetution and at least one porno dream.

And dang it, I got Sannuti.

Gunjack> <<Some things are worth the money>>: Granted, but I think I'll hold off until I have an actual income source.
<<a shiny blue Kiyoraka tentacle>>: But how long will it be able to retain that title? How long until the porn job offers start pouring in?

Calíope> <<Never pet a burning dog?>>: Or do anything else to it either. Dang homonecropyrobestialiacs.

Lady Corax> <<it rules having a roommate whose brother is a computer engineer>>: And just imagine how much fun it would be to actually be one. Oh, the things I will be able to do (hopefully)...

SOROW> Well wishes.

Welcome back Brooklyn.

Danile Johnson> <<That could have...disturbing connotations>>: But would it surprise me if they were true? I'm not sure.

Kitainia, Doug> Congratulations.
<< I recommend checking local costume shops for the other items you need>>: I don't think anyone's really come up with a viable Rorschach-type fabric, yet. And besides, I don't need anything. What I have keeps me warm and covered, the rest is just for show.

Niamhgold> <<such as what I'm gonna be doing on the weekend, when I should do my homework>>: ...the oblivion of sleep, the crossword and wonderword...
<<a Brainy Baby of Charles Darwin>>: Heh, my father picked up a plush monkey in a vest somewhere (probably a gift from a student who found it at the rummage sale), tied a Darwin biography or something (don't think it was Origin of the Species) to its hands, and named it Chuck.

Warpmind> <<A little program called RPGMaker 2000>>: I thought I linked that a while back.
<<Those who have played "Knights of Xentar">>: Really gotta finish that.
<<I'm not going into the "naughty" bits>>: Aww. But will we at least get some original Japanese-style action ( http://www.thebench.org/index.php3?strip=4002
Shironu Akaineko is a Goddes of the Bench.)?
<<Those little chibis of mine think you are funny, for some reason>>: Gee, I wonder why. I blame Jersey water.
<<that was the old, brown type of trenchcoat?>>: Yup. Just tan.
<<Any chance I'll be able to borrow that for G'01>>: Maybe if you have a stopover in Newark.
<<Any guesses as to who I am considering masquerading as for the costume contest?>>: I'd say Jason Evermore.

Na zodorv'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 02:00:53 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

*Warpmind enters, grinning.*
Well, I found something fun... A little program called RPGMaker 2000. Lets me make Final Fantasy-style RPGs (the old SNES style, not the Playstation-and-upward style) through a reasonably simple interface... So, before I manage to get "Legends Reborn" done, let me just say: Pity The World. ]:) Those who have played "Knights of Xentar" might guess at some of the obscurities; I'm not going into the "naughty" bits, bit the screenwriter/character interaction will be impossible for me to resist. ]:)

Gside: Those little chibis of mine think you are funny, for some reason. ;) But seriously, that was the old, brown type of trenchcoat? Hmmm... Any chance I'll be able to borrow that for G'01, assuming I manage to acquire a chainmail and a sword by then? (Any guesses as to who I am considering masquerading as for the costume contest?)

Gunjack Valentine: You actually want me to make the sword puns I didn't bother with? *Sigh* Methinks you may have gone over the edge there...

Lain: Am I to assume you think one of me is too much? ];) Maybe we should let Lynati get a word in edgewise there? ];)

Lynati: *Smiles, lays an arm around Lynati.* Mmmm... cozy this, no? :) Oh, I'd respond to your e-mail, but for some reason, Netaddress is acting up somewhat today. Or the LAN at work is. Nonetheless, I doubt I'll be able to write it before after work. (Which really might be just as well - I'll have to check up a few things first, anyway, like my own number. I can remember other peoples' numbers without any problems, but I never use my own, so it's always gone.)

Daniel Johnson: I'm not even going to answer that, come to think of it... But you're saying a clone of you is worse than a clone of me? Poppycock! Wilek, how're things progressing with my two dozen spares?

Niamhgold: A little suggestion that was given to me by a friend, regarding a diet (one I think everyone here might benefit from, actually). The diet bases itself on that almost everyone is insulin-resistant (a side effect of the more advanced nutrients found in the 20th century), but this condition can be amended. By following a strict diet, it is possible to turn this around, leaving you worlds better off, both health-wise and digestion-wise. The diet states that there is no reason to shun fat, or raw meat, or whatever such stuff - quite the contrary; you'll WANT your body to learn how to deal with excess (note the word excess here!) fat. However, one should avoid carbohydrates at all costs, meaning any soft drinks, or alcoholic beverages, or candies etc. are big no-nos. Hamburgers are fine, long as you don't eat the bun. And a massive intake of C-vitamins. About 2-3 grams per day, powder form dissolved into water. And not all at once, of course; split it into two or three doses.Within a few weeks, the body should have learned to burn away fat instead of taking the carbohydrate shortcut, enabling you to eat quite normally without concern for gaining the wrong kind of extra weight. If anyone is interested, I can probably manage to get a more specific list of what the diet consists of; it might take some time, though, since I don't think it exists in English, and a translation thus is needed.

Well, that about concludes my post. I'm off to be mean, nasty and cruel to my RPG characters. ]:)

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 01:29:21 AM
IP: ti21a68-0064.dialup.online.no

Hi everyone. This might be a bit short. I'm trying to make a quick post before bed.

Niamhgold> <tooth accident> Yeah eating the yummy soft food like pudding and Jell-O make it all feel okay. Plus I can't complain. There was a neighbor that we had who slammed her jaw into the wall and had her jaw wired shut as well as having her teeth all wired to hold them in place so they would be normal after nearly falling out. She came by all the time but we all cringed and tried to make her feel better. She spent a month at home. I think I should be quiet. I have a bunch of stories but I think I need to consider when is the best time to share. <Curious George> I'm glad you like it! Hey I want you to feel good! And laughter is a great way to feel good. <gifts> Oh you've got it dead on! Those are great gifts. Stargazing is fun and hearing all the theories and discoveries beyond our world I find extremely fascinating. I bet the Brainy Baby of Charles Darwin is a must see! <you> Well I'm glad things are working out and that you are talking with your friend and helping her out. Not that this fits this case, but sometimes we do somewhat self-destructive things to find out who cares about us. I know you'll be able to her out. You take care of yourself too and be well. **huggles**

Kitainia> WOW! Congratulations to you and Doug! With how I've seen you two in here since I first started I'm imagining many years of future happiness. To a lifetime of shared joy between both of you, now you can use the French word and call each other fiancée. ^_^ <lifetime friends> That's my plan. It's heartbreaking when friends just disappear from your life. Back to my optimism I just hope that I can speak to them again after I've tried getting in touch repeatedly. And while I hope I also make a stab at contacting every now and then.

Brooklyn> Hey Brooklyn. Seem to be missing you again these days. I'll send email if I can't catch you in IM by the end of the week.

Kyryn> Hi I sent you email for the current episode. Let me know what you think.

Christine> I hope Becca is good as new now.

ED> **SPOILERS** <Brooklyn is lucky in his wound> But if it was skill then the sniper would need at least general knowledge of gargoyle anatomy or in this particular area of the body they would have to be very similar.

Waystation> One thing I wondered about is how the bullet also left cleanly. Think about it Brooklyn was shot in the front just below his breastplate armor. The sniper was on the ground while Brooklyn was on the roof of a building. The shot would have had an upward angle that would not have let the bullet continue past the armor. It isn't a big point as they could just be referring to the bullet passing through Brooklyn. It is also possible that I misread that part. **END SPOILERS**

SOROW> I've had the same thoughts on Brooklyn and leadership myself. Oh and **HUGS** :)

Tim> Happy Belated Birthday!

Brianna> On your art entry I just wanted to say it looks great!

Caliope> **HUGE LOVING WOLF HUGZ** Aww Cali. I was just teasing! But I feel so loved now! Thank you!!!! ^_^ < dealings with you wolfie kind> Oh? Let me see what the wolfie handbook says about you then. Got it! "When dealing with Caliope you must be extra nice keep her entertained and do what she wants. Remember we have to love Cali because all wolfies do!" And there you have it. ;P <What lesson was that tho> Let me see if I can remember exactly. It was love all women and be as nice and as wonderful as you can to them. Women are intelligent and will punish the bad men... well it was something like that anyway. :P <talk to yourself> LOL That was cute! I love talking to you too of course! ^_^ <Nahir> How is Nahir these days?

Emambu> Well now Jeff Bennett will be there. What are you going to do? :P

******BFTS RP******

Winterwolf drags himself over to Frost and looks at him. Jason, Plastique and Uriel rush over. "Hold on Frost you'll be okay." Winterwolf states.

Frost speaks weakly. "No my time is coming to an end. I have much I want to say please listen to me." Everyone looks as if they have objections but none voice them out loud. "Winterwolf please take my hands in yours." Winterwolf walks closer and gently holds Frost's hands. "First I realized I can't exist without you Winterwolf. I am a part of you and without you I can no longer be. I will be rejoining you shortly. Plastique I've always had feelings for you. I'd say I felt love but I don't know and I haven't lived very long to know what love is. You are special to me and I wanted you to know that you meant something to me in a way nobody else did in my short life." Plastique walks over and kisses frost on the cheek. Frost half smiles and half grimaces from the pain. "There is one more thing." He spits up blood. "For me to say this out loud is to forfeit my life but it is over anyway... Equus and Shadow are one in the same. Shadow is a creation of Equus. Shadow is pure energy and a part of Equus like I am a part of Winterwolf. The two of them plan..."

"Enough! Frost REVERSION." Shadow screams. In an instant the dying form of Frost is merged into Winterwolf. Equus stands next to Shadow.

Jason attacks Equus but the power of his magical attack is amplified and returned to him. "Winterwolf come I need you." Winterwolf walks over and enters a portal that Equus points out. "Ah Uriel that you again on breaking the curse. In payment the generator you have can transport you through space as well as time. I see DPH is taking a nap. Oh well maybe we can chat another time. Oh I feel generous. If you want you can use this portal it leads to Manhattan near where I'm staying." With that the three leave.

Jason yells "Every spell I tried was reflected right back at me!"

Plastique agrees I tried a few things myself but it was as if nothing had happened."

Everyone remaining waits for DPH to recover and wake up.

******END BFTS RP******

Good night!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, January 17, 2001 01:10:02 AM
IP: 206.15.120.83

** Niamhgold enters **

Lain: ** Huggles ** Thank you so much for your words, because they make so much sense to me and I agree fully with what you say. My friend and I are very close, and I do not like people to make assumptions about her behind her back, so I have already confronted her with some questions. And, in actuality, it turns out that she is _very_ glad that someone noticed, because, being the well-read person she is, she's been reading up on the subject and is very frightened with what the outcome of her dilemma might be. However, she tells me that she can't quite figure out how to get out of the problem--apparently, no matter how much she knows she _should_ eat and drink more, she just can't actually _do_ it. She's too frightened of going to see a doctor because she's afraid they might put her through a program that interferes with college life.

However, I see that her problem is interfering in her life more than a help program would--she cuts class just because she wants to go to the gym, she tells me all she thinks about during class is when she can get to the gym, when she'll eat, and everything like that. Now, I'm not saying that things don't preoccupy _my_ mind when I'm during class (such as what I'm gonna be doing on the weekend, when I should do my homework), but I think in her case it is affecting not only her health but also her overall enjoyment of life. But I am very glad that she told me the truth, and I feel so bad because I now realize she has been sending help signals all along because she was afraid of actually having to ask someone for herself--like she is ashamed. But we, and her parents, now, too, are working out the problem and will hopefully get her started on the path to a healthy--albeit long--recovery. :)

Winterwolf, Spore, GB, Gside, Caliope, Chibi-Maggie, Pestilence, and anyone else I might not have named: Thank you so much for the input...I might have sounded naive about it, but it was because I was trying to sort out whether she had an _actual_ problem (since I also work out and eat small portions)--I just didn't want to jump to any conclusions, because I know there's nothing worse to a skinny person than to be wrongfully called anorexic or bulimic. Thank you guys so much!

Season Three: ** Does the season 3 happy dance! ** !!!!!!

Winterwolf: <Tooth accident> Ouchie, that sounds like a bad one! I think we've all had that sort of thing happen to us at least once in our life...hehe. I _did_ get to eat pudding, ice cream, and popsicles for a week, though...no vegetables for me! ;) Ooh, got your Curious George e-mail and you're right...I _did_ love it! Thanks! Additionally, I think you'd love the X-mas gift Serg got me...it's a Brainy Baby of Charles Darwin, plus a subscription to _Astronomy_ :)

Adios everyone!

Niamhgold
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:57:00 PM
IP: 206.41.204.68

And now Part 2!

Names: Lisa means God's Oath in Hebrew, according to my mother. Samantha (my middle name) is Arabic, means listener. I like the meaning of both. :) Looked up some other names just for fun. Stephanie's first and middle names (Laura) both mean crowned in victory, and Keith Everett Lung (Wang-Matthews) means brave dragon warrior of the woodlands. Their names seem well-suited for each other, huh? :) Douglas can also mean "Dark Stranger." I like that. <grin> James Anthony (Murdoch, Jammer) means inestimable replacement. I'll have to ask him about why his parents that name. Tricia's, or Linda Patricia (Messina)'s, name means of noble birth and beautiful. And Maxwell Alexander (Cleary, Gubio)'s name means defender of the large spring. He takes the latter part to mean the Internet, ties in with his work as a hacker. Didn't have time to look up anyone else's name. :(

Jannie: Whoa! You are really obsessed with District! I would prefer to get the kids to watch it with me, since it's an entertaining and interesting show, but to each her own. Glad you're still enjoying the show, we should see the episode you were so wild about this Saturday. (And it looks great too. MacGregor vs. an old terrorist foe. Oh boy.)

Heather: Thanks for letting us know Robby's okay. Good to see you again too, you've been missed. Hope you both will be able to come back soon. Good luck to Robby in his computer woes, I especially hope he soon gets things fixed. Even if it requires a new machine.

Mary: Sorry to hear about you and Bahemut, but it's good that you realized things wouldn't work out well and broke it off before the relationship got too deep. Congrats on the new relationship, it sounds like you've found somebody who's truly one in a million. Hope he's all he appears to be, and things work out well. Kudos on keeping up a positive attitude and staying strong through all the post-breakup depression. Your reward is surely on the way, if not already in your possession. :)

David G: Nice theory about 007. I agree with it. Hope his movies never get as bad as the Highlander films though. <ignores Stephanie's glare>

Shadowrider: See you again soon, I'll be sure to remind you of the good news when you get back. :) Congratulations again on the promotion.

Christine: Condolences on Becca's tooth injury, hope she's doing better now. I can sympathize with her pain, I too have had permanent teeth dislodged. Getting them that way was not fun, nor was getting them fixed. :( I wish you both the best no matter what problems come your way.

Niamhgold: Yes, go Ravens! I always root for the underdog in Super Bowls. :) Congrats on getting back home. On your friend, I agree that she's going a bit too far. A woman's weight should not be more important to her than her health, and even if you're trying to lose weight you need to keep that in mind. So doctors have always told me. IMO, she should stop her crusade now, she's become skinny enough. Hope you can convince her to quit the fad if necessary, and that she doesn't have some thin person's disorder. <prayer> Lain has given good advice on the whole situation, I suggest you read it if you haven't already. Best of luck to you both in working things out, whatever it takes.

Green Baron: $ We agree with you about Ashcroft, hence the RP above. Doug and I are glad that you trust us enough to let us take over your RP bits while you're in the Army, we'll do our best with them. But of course we'll miss your input too. :( $ Like I said before, congrats on Lain. And yes, of course we'll send you some bus schedules when you want to come to Austin. Just please be sure and let us know at least a week in advance when you're coming, so we can get ready. Then say the word, and we'll e-mail them your way.

Gside: Congrats on the trenchcoat, hope you can get a better one someday though. I recommend checking local costume shops for the other items you need. Doug found a very nice fedora at such a shop here in town, and they probably have the mask you were talking about too. Don't scare anyone too much when you're wearing such things now. :)

Lain (again): Those things in Nigeria and Iran are indeed injustices. I doubt they'll get stopped, though. <sigh> Why does the world have to be so tragic as to let such things happen? I continue to pray that one day all humanity will have evolved past such barbarism, though I doubt it will happen in my lifetime. It just better in the millenium's. <sighs again, then spends some time praying for the world's victims of injustice before returning to her post> Condolences on what happened your best friend, my best advice on the situation is just to put things behind you and move on, if you think that's best. I think it's possible you can still be friends, maybe he just got so caught up in his new relationship all else slipped his mind. Some relationships are like that, you know. I don't think you're doing anything wrong as far as friendships go, unless you count letting depression and despair overtake your mind for a time after something happens which you don't like. That is always a mistake. You've got to move past the depression, and try to look on the bright side of things and remember how things are good. Not all friendships result in back-stabbing, only the ones that weren't friendships to begin with. Finding true friendships takes great time and effort, it is a difficult process. And yet a noble and necessary one, as the person with no friends dies very sad. :( Best of luck being able to emotionally salvage things after this, glad you're already doing it to a large degree. <big hug> Keep caring, friend. With that, you cannot go wrong.

Warpmind: Thanks for relaying Revel's message, I wish him the best of luck getting back in here soon too. <sighs> I think I'm wishing that on behalf of too many people.

Winterwolf: Good bit on relationships, I like the differentials. Hope we can all be lifetime friends in here, with everything that entails. :)

Revel: <waves> Like I said above, may you soon be able to post more often again. IMO, it stinks only being able to lurk in a place as great as this.

Lady Corax: Your roommate's brother sounds very much like Gubio. I can never figure out what he does with computers either. <grin> Glad you were able to get yours working again, congratulations. You be sure and punish DC severely for its messing up earlier now. :)

SOROW: I often feel the same way about this room as you and Lain do. :) Sorry to hear you had to endure that bad situation, especially that your boyfriend didn't stand up for you in it. You better have strong words with that guy, remind him about chivalry! :) Good luck finding a new boyfriend, if it becomes necessary, as it very well may be. If a guy's not gonna stand up for you in a bad situation, IMO he is not worth your energy and time.

Daniel Johnson: God, talk about dumb! I am never shopping at Home Depot after learning about this- they actually let the idiot get away with that. <shakes head> Thanks for letting us know of another instance of the folly and stupidity of humankind.

And that is all for tonight, I guess. Have to go back to school tomorrow, and to work. Thanks for the good times once again, everyone. May they continue to be given to us, and to all of you. Doug and I will keep coming in here whenever we need them. Later all! <takes her fiancé's arm, exchanges happy smiles with him, waves to the crowd, then slow-dances with him out of the room>

**RESUME RP, RAVENS' SAGA**

The screen comes back on, displaying a scene not often glimpsed in the RP. A lush tropical island floats on the ocean, gentle breezes wafting through the palm trees. Many men and women in swimsuits walk among a complex of huts on the beach, some looking overly attractive and others overly stupid. A speedboat is approaching the island, a winged figure standing on its prow. The moonlight hits her, and reveals a tall female gargoyle in skanky black and red clothing, her ears torn and full of piercings and a manic grin on the face framed by her purple-toned brown hair. "Remind me again why we're on this boat," the blue-skinned bald man in a white Imperial admiral's uniform standing next to her says with a grimace. "A contract," Asil answers. "The Society for the Promotion of Ethical Television has offered me fifty million dollars to completely clean out our destination." "Why do I have to be here then?" Admiral Nipon asks. "You might recall I don't like seeing death up close." "I offered you half the money," Asil replies. "You said yes. I also need a prospective husband to get onto the island without arousing suspicion." "Dear lady," a voice in her pocket declares, "you could arouse suspicion by walking into anywhere, just because of how you look." "Well, I refuse to change my appearance for any reason, Guod," Asil takes out her pocket computer and glares at it. "You know that. I am who I am, and if they can't accept it, too bad." "Well spoken!" says a voice from Nipon's pocket. "Poit!" "Oh no," Asil's mouth falls open. "You didn't!" "He would have been bored without us!" Nipon protests. "Indeed I would!" Pinky agrees, sticking his head out of the admiral's pocket and laughing. "So I decided to come along! Hahahaha!" "Fine," Asil groans as the boat gets closer to the island. "Just stay out of sight!" Pinky salutes and ducks his head back down. "I'll make sure he doesn't get in the way," Nipon says. Asil laughs. "I could do this assignment with my eyes closed," she says. "The little mouse just annoys me. At least the other one isn't here, or it'd be worse." "Sorry to interrupt," Guod says just then. "But there's a Fox patrol boat approaching us." "Wonderful!" Asil declares, turning to face the boat as it approaches. "These are private waters!" a voice rings out. "Leave at once!" Nipon gulps. "We have a reservation!" Asil shouts back. "Chentor Nipon and Asil Smith!" "Interesting choice of surname," Guod comments, and Asil hisses at him to shut up. There is a pause from the other boat, and then the voice rings out again. "Ah yes, the couple with the odd names. You're late!" "Sorry!" Nipon shouts after Asil elbows him and motions him to keep up appearances. "She had to, um, talk me into this!" "You may pass onto the island!" the patrol boat captain calls, waving them on. "Thank you!" Asil calls back, then smiles and caresses the BFG on the ground beside her. "Time for another battle in the endless crusade to rid the world of idiots and that which spawns them," Kit's evil clone chuckles. "Will there be refreshments too?" Pinky asks, getting a snarl in reply. "Narf!" "I'm sorry I brought him," Nipon says. "Really I am." "Shut up," Asil snaps.

Meanwhile, in the Mall of America's central Camp Snoopy court, the battle between the Ravens and zombies continues to rage, the good guys heavily wounded and short on ammo, but still fighting on. The zombies still have them highly outnumbered, but they are slowly being cut down as the Ravens fight on. Kit is fighting particularly hard, the remains of at least forty destroyed zombies lying around her. She is about to increase the number by one more when a cackling winged shape slams into her and knocks her down, waving the zombies off with its glaive as Kit growls in pain and then leaps back to her feet. "Hello, pretty one," Jerry Bennet squawks, waving his fingers at her. "Ready to go at it?" "You couldn't satisfy me in a relationship, Jerry," Kit snorts. "What ever made you think you could handle me in battle?" "Hey, you did go all the way with me," Jerry snaps back. "It was a mistake," Kit replies. "I've since found someone much better. It's not my fault you weren't able to date a single girl more than once since me. Get over it, alright?" "You should have tried that on me before I became a demon, girl!" Jerry roars, then rushes at her with glaive ready. Kit leaps into the air as he comes, her wings holding her momentarily aloft as she kicks out at Jerry's face with her legs. He blocks the first kick with his glaive's handle, but it snaps in two and the second kick hits him right in the beak. The vulture-demon growls and falls back as Kit lands on her feet. Waving his claws and the glaive's business end, Jerry rushes at Kit again, but she knocks him back with a spin kick and then fires a volley of laser blasts, knocking him to the floor. "You stink at this just like at everything else," Kit shakes her head, stepping up to him and firing again. Jerry opens his mouth to curse her, but the blast hits and he is only able to roar before self-destructing in a spray of feathers and ash. "Damn it!" Tom curses as he runs to Kit's side. "I wanted a piece of that guy." "Sorry, he attacked me first," Kit shrugs, then looks around. "Is Doug okay?" "Yeah, but those zombie things have him surrounded!" Tom says. "I was saving my last couple shots for Jerry or…" Kit does not even waste time shooting him a glare, rushing in the direction Tom is pointing, to where Doug is firing away as zombies continue to close in. He is keeping them back, but the look on his face shows he knows it is only temporary. Sooner or later, they will get to him. Around the battlefield, the other Ravens are being closed in on, many of their weapons clicking dry. "Hand-to-hand fighting isn't going to stop these things!" Tricia shouts. "Damn it, Kenny, where's the calvary?" The former CR attorney opens his mouth to answer, but is torn apart by zombies and killed for the zillionth time before he can. "Hey guys!" Leah shouts just then, firing several shots into zombies as she leaps over a smashed-up booth. "Aim for the heads, Leah!" Mansfield shouts at her. "Calvary of one," Jammer mumbles as he tries to keep three zombies back with his rifle butt. "Just great." Lathrop and many others nod in agreement around the court, all hoping for a miracle. "There they are!" Jesse Ventura yells as he turns the corner at the head of the National Guard just then. "Fire!" The National Guardsmen scramble to stop and take aim, then do so, and several dozen zombies fall almost simultaneously as they suffer fatal head wounds. "Thank God!" Shauna gasps in relief. "He says you're welcome," Shap chuckles. In the rafters above, Geburah laughs evilly and sucks in the necromantic energies released from the destroyed zombies with his hands. "It's time, Mistress Synatia," he whispers, snapping his fingers. "I knew the zombies could only wound them severely, but now…" "I hope your mistress is prepared for your report of failure, Jeb," Orion interrupts him, stepping onto the beam beside the cornugon. "Because I'm going to send you back to her." Geburah turns around and laughs as the screen goes dark.

**NEXT TIME- THE CONFRONTATION GOES ON. FOR NOW END RP**

Kitainia
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:45:16 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.100.dlls.grid.net

**RP ALERT**

"And to you, Master Cromwell," John Ashcroft is praying before an altar to the crazed English Puritan turned demon lord as the screen comes on, "I promise that I will work both for and against Ted Turner. In helping him come to power, I shall also help you and your beliefs rise to become the most influential philosopher and philosophy in America. For though the efforts of the Green Baron and his associates have weakened us, we are still strong and can ultimately triumph against the forces of freedom and liberalism…" The screen changes as he continues, showing Hillary Clinton just finishing up a similar prayer before an altar to Rousseau. "May your wisdom remain wisdom forever," she declares, then turns to a worried-looking aide standing nearby. "Now what did you want to say?" "Socks and Buddy are dead, madam," the aide coughs. "Their corpses were found in a large collect package we received from Reverend Atilla just now, rather brutally mauled and shot up." "Curses!" Hillary snarls, leaping to her feet. "This badly impacts our plans! I was counting on them to kill that stupid feline, or at least bring us his body for the proper soul-draining ceremony!" "Kill him?" the aide questions. "But doesn't Mr. Turner need the soul of an ordained feline minister to open the portal for the Destroyer?" "Did you think Atilla was the only one of his kind?" Hillary growls. "There are dozens more ordained felines in the world, he's just the most attractive target! We can easily get one of the others. However, Atilla is still a threat to our plans. Therefore…" "You want me to call Gotti and deCoreleone, right?" the aide asks. "Get them to send their best men after Reverend Atilla?" "No," Hillary snaps, drawing a pistol and shooting the aide dead as he gasps. "That's for interrupting me!" She turns to another of her minions. "You call Gotti and deCoreleone, and bring me the phones!" The minion nods enthusiastically and scampers out as Hillary sighs heavily and returns to her prayers.

The screen display changes to show the Middle East, where Erin is posed in readiness at a closed door. Fasil, Bessus, Hassan, Sarita, and Mist are all just behind her, weapons at the ready. "This computer program is taking way too long to load!" Tariq is saying on the door's other side. "We are doomed!" "No, we are not!" Abdullah bin Aziz shouts back. "You just go get ready to rally the men outside once the dragon is under my control! Tyler's program must be sound for all the money we paid him!" "Sir," Ershel frowns, "our visual intelligence indicates that all our surviving men out there have already fled. I really don't think we can rally them now." "Fine!" Abdullah snaps. "We'll finish this ourselves. We are not fleeing!" "Like we can," Ershel grumbles. "The helicopter's been destroyed." "It will not matter once the dragon is under my power and able to destroy the enemy!" Abdullah shouts. "What are they talking about?" Hassan whispers to Erin. "What dragon? Lloky?" "Surely not!" Sarita insists. "She's our friend." "In a few minutes, it won't matter," Erin replies, looking at Fasil and Bessus, who both nod. Mist meows in agreement. Smiling, she adjusts her headscarf, then readies herself and kicks the door down. Abdullah, Tariq, Jazeem, and the four terrorist soldiers in the room behind it gasp as she and those with her rush in weapons ready. "Oh my God!!" Ershel screams, just before reaching for his pistol. Mist and Fasil both shoot him before he can grab it, and the accountant falls over bleeding heavily but not quite dead. Two of the terrorist soldiers also reach for their weapons, and Erin and Bessus gun them down quickly. Sarita's thrown knife intercepts Tariq's hand as he reaches for his own gun, and he screams in pain as it hits. "Uncle Abdullah, it is over!" Hassan declares. "No longer shall you disgrace our family!" He brings up his gun and fires a burst at Abdullah, gasping as it bounces off a magical shield Jazeem has hastily erected. "Fools!" the sorcerer laughs. "You will never triumph over my magic!" "Good to see you all once again," Abdullah says to his family. "For the last time, I hope." "You have tried to kill us many times, Abdullah," Fasil declares, slamming a fresh clip into his Desert Eagle as the terrorist kingpin smiles and his remaining thugs cower behind Jazeem's shield. "Before that, you have harassed us and cursed us. Even though we are family, you have done this." "Only because you have disgraced our family, Fasil," Abdullah replies. "You too, Hassan, and you, Khadijah." "My name is Erin," Erin snaps. "You always hide behind something, Abdullah, to conceal your cowardice. Tradition, religion, philantrophic façade, minions, and now a shield of spells. You were brave enough to ask me to marry you even though you disgust me and you know it, brave enough to cast my father out of the family, to send thugs to attack my brother just so he will be tough, and now you are not even brave enough to face us?" Abdullah's thugs, Tariq included, look at him with raised eyebrows, while Jazeem sneers at Erin, who ignores him, meeting Abdullah's calm gaze. "Well?" Bessus asks. "Are you just going to sit there, or are you going to stand up and take your medicine?" "I don't accept challenges from American's whores or homosexuals," Abdullah coldly replies, tapping a few keys on his laptop computer. Fasil and Mist both shoot at him, but the shield deflects their blasts. "In any case," Abdullah shrugs, shaking his head at them, "you're all about to die." "Gubio to Erin!" a voice over Erin's radio shouts. "We got trouble! Tyl helped Abdullah build a huge metal dragon that can take down an entire battalion and it's…" Erin gasps and reaches for her radio to respond as he continues. Fasil, Bessus, and the others are looking around in confusion. Sarita catches sight of an image in the window to their left and screams. Just as they turn to face it, a huge fireball hits the side of the building and an explosion engulfs the room as the screen goes blank.

**NEXT- DESERT KNIGHTS VS. THE DRAGON KING. END FIRST BIT RP**

<Kit strolls into the CR wearing a very big smile, and walking with a large spring in her step> Hi there everyone! I'm back once again. A bit of bad news on the home-buying front, our bank didn't want to approve us for the money we needed to buy a house due to our limited credit history. :( Or check that, they did want to approve us, but for an amount less than our combined current bank account balances. <big frown> Doug and I think we'll be shopping elsewhere for mortgage loans, and have made appointments with other financiers for the next two days to accomplish this. <sigh> I regret the bank didn't work out. That, thankfully, is the only bad news so far this week, besides the new semester of college starting tomorrow for me. :( I don't want to talk about that right now. Here's the bits of good news about which I am smiling- first, Doug's job finally has enough people working at it, or so Abel feels. Three of them are "problem people," two especially so, but at least he's not having to put up with double shifts right now. <grin> Secondly, Stephanie went in today for a bunch of pre-birth baby status checks, and it's confirmed that her child will be physically healthy with no abnormalities or genetic diseases. :) It's gonna be a boy too- she and Keith are naming him Peter Lung, Lung being Chinese for dragon (yes, they are Action fans). And now the really big news- last night Doug popped the question. :) And of course I said yes. <grins, then holds up her hand, displaying a simple gold band with a small diamond> The ring he gave is nothing too spectacular, but I don't care. He's the true prize in the engagement, and for him I will gladly accept a lesser ring than Stephanie got. The bond between Doug and I is one that needs no ring to hold it steady. Hers also doesn't have Keith's and her names carved into the inside of it, like mine has Doug's and mine, so I can gloat about that at least. <contented smile> So, for once, all seems right with the world. Had a huge amount of sales at Tower today to top things off, earned a small bonus for speedy yet efficient and pleasant customer service. :) Doug and I are not yet sure when or where we'll have the ceremony yet, I still have to get him a ring too, but we are engaged, and as far as he and I are concerned, we're one, now and forever. Despite all the hurdles we've had to jump, all the fights we've had now and then, all the possible difficulties still ahead in our lives, we are going to be together. :) Just have to inform our respective families, which you people in here are of course among. :) Now that the news is shared, on to replies.

Lain: Glad you thought that information useful, I find your bits of information useful as well. For trivia purposes at least. <grin> Thanks for sharing them all. Also, congrats to you and Green Baron, sorry for the mistake concerning Valentine. Though I do congratulate you on his friendship. Though relationships are far better IMO, friends are good to have too. Nice to see I'm not the only woman in here who enjoys teasing her man. :) Congrats on the interesting class, though I'm sorry to hear the professor's boring and hard to understand. That's frequently been the case with my professors too, unfortunately. <sigh> Glad you're still getting good knowledge out of it, though. And congrats to your father on his getting his life back together. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have a great life of your own real soon. Just have to keep hoping and working towards it and no matter what, don't give in to despair. We'll be there to help you, every step of the way. Sorry to hear about your friend's band Email account password getting stolen- that really bites. Gside gave you the best advice Gubio could offer on the situation before Doug and I could post his words, or we would have helped more. Sorry we didn't. <sigh> Glad you found the hacker, though, I'm sure you rendered appropriate punishment. Hope you'll tell us all about it someday. Congrats also to you, Baron, Nadia, Atilla, and Valentine on forming the detective agency- may it soon do even more good work.

Kaioto: You may only be a wannabe realist, but you are still a maker of very powerful and interesting speeches. The White House staff could learn a lot from you. I share your hopes, may they not be in vain. :)

Coyote: Congrats on the thaw, about time you had one. Glad you got heaters too. Doug and I are keeping up the prayers just in case, but we are confident the worst is over. We better be right. Thanks for the good luck wishes on the house.

Winterwolf: There's more than one of you in the world? Didn't know that. Glad to have their support as well as yours. Thanks for keeping up my spirits, I'm sure good happy times are on the way. :) Thanks also for the bravo wishes to Doug, I think you helped him get his courage up for last night. (Though why he needed courage, I do not know. Like I would think of saying anything but yes to him after all we've been through together! :)

Emmabu: Good luck with the new semester, friend. Thanks for the good luck wishes on the mortgage loan, they're appreciated. I regret things didn't work out on the first try, but then for me they almost never do. Just gotta try again tomorrow and the next day, see how things plan out. Even if we end up in a trailer, though, or stuck in this same old apartment for another year, Doug and I will be happy cause we're together. And hopefully someday, there will be some little ones we can be together with. :) Thanks also for sketching Wilek's origins, or at least those of his name. Don't you know he's a rather handsome blue gargoyle, not a clone?

Calliope: Congrats on the good grades, you did about as good as I did last semester. Hope I do as well this one, tomorrow it begins. <drum roll> At least I'm gonna go to the first day of class feeling happy, for once.

Xenatrek: Welcome back! Congrats on the hearing dog, hope it helps you. I have an uncle-in-law with one of those, Anne's father's brother. It's worked out well for him, or so I hear. I wish you luck with the music videos, and to your sister with the house-moving too. Like us, I'm sure she'll soon find the home of her dreams.

Tim Phipps: Your parents need a serious reminder they are not in charge of your life. <shakes head> Condolences on all you've had to go through with them. As I've said before, good luck with the Marines and hope you will be able to show your family you can succeed on your own, doing what you want. By all your posts, I can already tell you're smart enough to go far. :) Happy Belated Birthday also.

Valentine: Well, congrats to you and Nadia then. If you like being with her. And congrats on your deep friendship with Lain too, it sounds like a very good thing.

DPH: Good luck getting hired, the checks they're doing sound necessary but tedious and bothersome. <sigh> May you soon have to stop dealing with them. I also hope the job works out. Anything where they give you false smiles gives me bad feelings more often than not. <sigh>

Daphne: Nice final idea for the project, I like it considering the topic you got. Hope it works out being what you do. I congratulate you on the reprieve, since they're always good, but I also pray it doesn't create too much indecision among your group. If all else fails, Doug recommends that you try setting up a comic script where you mix interesting information with funny skits and in-jokes about the class and their relationships with each other and your participants. That worked great for him with a medieval presentation in eighth grade, he'll say more about it once he manages to dig up the old script (as he's been trying to do all weekend- we have so much clutter in this place). Whatever happens, best wishes that things work out well.

Archwolf: You're welcome for the congrats to you and Aingeal. May you be as happy together as Doug and I are. :) $ Good RP also, you perfectly captured Keith's way of speaking even though you've probably never met the guy. Hope you'll do a bit again soon. $

Traveler: Hey friend. Good to see you again. Sorry you came in on a side note, though. I too mourn Bill Hewlett and will always be glad for the great work he did for our world. <lets a moment of silence pass, then returns to typing on the invention the engineer helped develop>

**SPOILERS FOR VARIOUS THINGS AHEAD**
I agree with the majority of people in this room. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a fantastic movie. The fight scenes are amazingly choreographed, the cinematography is breathtaking, and the acting is top-notch. Pretty good script too, although it does have quite a number of cliched and convoluted bits. Especially liked the meaningful showcase of one woman's journey of self-discovery. For all this, Doug and I enjoyed it and recommend it. 8/10 stars.

Decent Simpsons this week, though the end kinda drove me nuts. Hope we do get to see Sideshow Bob again soon like they hinted, the season needs him. :) X-Files I enjoyed for the very well-written script, nice dialogue, and interestingly tragic feel of the plot, but not so much for the lousy characterization and lack of development on Doggett and Scully. Hope we get more of that with Mulder's possible return next episode. I am way too sick of weekly-monster eps.

Kudos to the TGS Staff on a good start to the new Gargoyles season. A surprising one too. Whatever happened to the countdown? :) Anyway, I liked the plot of this one, and the writing. The snipers had some good mystery about them, and nice development on Matt, Goliath, and Elisa. Good emotion showcasing from all the characters also, especially Matt, Sara, and Duval, who I continue to wonder about. Hope to get filled in more on his plans next week. Xanatos and Beth also had great scenes, like Ed I look forward to seeing the latter in the cast. Broadway's big brother comment to Brooklyn was also a good bit. My dislikes about this episode were the length (too short!), the lack of illustrations, and Lee, who to me seemed thrown in for shock effect and in a role that a more interesting character could have better filled. But these aren't major complaints. I'm looking very forward to the episodes ahead.

More great character development on Angel tonight. Liked Angel's introspection especially, coupling it with his training worked very well. Nice bits with the other characters too- Wesley and Virginia's scene was quite funny. <grin> Liked Lindsay's development as well, I am quite happy to see him and Lilah still alive. Can hardly wait to see what kind of trouble they'll be causing next. The frame job she tried to pull especially made me snicker. :) Great developments on Dru and Darla too- I must say Whedon and co. are definitely not scamping on the great writing and scripts this season. Or the great acting and dialogue. :) Not to mention the great fight choreography, this ep wasn't lacking in that either. Not by a longshot. Honestly no complaints, 10/10. Favorite scene was Wes, Cordy, and Gunn all showing up to sing karaoke. :) Too bad they sucked at the mike. <sigh> Seeing Morty the demon informant again was enjoyable too. So was Darla and Drusilla's banter, particularly the feminism vs. insanity they displayed. L! The end of the episode was wonderfully climactic, enjoyed both Angel's confrontation and Gunn, Wes, and Cordy's. Great meeting with Lindsay, Lilah, and the senior partners' executors too. The results of it, as well as Angel and Wesley's, will be very interesting to watch enacted. Darla's realization at the end was especially interesting, and should make for nice developments in upcoming episodes. I can hardly wait for them of course. Beginning next week. :)
**END SPOILERS, PART 1 OF POST**

Kitainia
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:44:19 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.100.dlls.grid.net

Before I go any farther, I just had to share this link. Click my name and behold the astounding stupidity of that strangest of all animals, Homo sapiens.
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lain and SOROW:
Ugh, with friends like that... I'm glad you find some solace here. I know I do sometimes. And lain, Traveler is right; you care. Few things can cause yourself more pain than caring. And few things can cause more joy. I'd say it's a much more rewarding way to live. :)
<<I had something else important to say but.. It has gone away.. I suppose I shall have to think real hard and remember what it is..>> Pretty much sums up my life. :P

***** TGS SPOILERS *****
SOROW: <<if the gargoyles were having Family Night, why wasn't Demona there?>> I doubt either Demona or anyone else (except Angela) would be very comfortable with that. Especially since Goliath and Elisa's engagement was going to be announced.
***** END SPOILERS *****

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DPH:
We are pretty scary, aren't we?
____
Lynati:
Yeesh, this place seems to be a magnet for people with such problems. There have been times when I decided that I was better off not having friends. Even now I tend to shy away from making friends. Which is why this place is so unique for me.
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Revel:
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I doubt that your ISP is the problem; it sounds like the S8 server is blocking your domain. Robby would probably be the first person to ask.
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Guandalug, Kyryn, Selanit, and anyone else interested in HTML related problems:
I think the solution is a handy little utility called HTML Tidy. After passing the story through it twice and a little hand tweaking I got 100% HTML 3.2 compliant code that should display fine on any browser and is a fraction of the original size. Of course, Tidy is a UNIX command line utility and I wouldn't expect most people to even know it existed. Even the Mac and Windows ports aren't the friendliest tools to use, but it is very powerful and has a special mode for cleaning up Word 2000 code. As I said, I would be happy to help in any way I can. Another possibility is that Microsoft now has an optional HTML filter for Office 2000 on their site which is supposed to produce better HTML. I haven't used it so I can't vouch for it's effectiveness.
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Rodlox:
<<I'll clone Warpmind!>> Well, that seems like a pretty serious threat to me! The only thing worse would be a Daniel clone...oh wait, that's already happened. Never mind. :)
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Gside:
<<Because I am incredibly cheap.>> That could have...disturbing connotations.
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Warpmind:
<<lest I'll get mopped up by the floor therapist!>> Considering the kinds of things that end up on floors, is it any wonder they need therapists?
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Tim:
Happy birthday!
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Christine:
Oh! Sorry about Becca's tooth. I hope the dentist visit went well. It's funny what you said about food aversions; when I was in kindergarten, I had an unfortunate experience with mustard during lunch. I don't even remember what happened exactly, but to this day the smell of mustard makes me physically ill. Needless to say, I'm a ketchup man. :)
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That's all for now. I've developed a really good cough from this stupid cold and I should really get to bed. 'Night all.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:32:14 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Ladies and Gentlemen...
Boys and Girls of all ages...

Your favorite crimson gargoyle is BACK!

Yes everyone the beloved Brooklyn is back form a long stone nap! Seriously I luv being back!

Winterwolf> Hey buddy! How are you? I see you opened up a webpage. Great!
Emambu> Hey man r u ready for more episodes? If you are tell me and you'll ge them!

That's it for now!
Welcome all new comers!

Buh-bye

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 09:32:24 PM
IP: 216.117.75.3

Sorrow> You're welcome
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
token sane guy
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:39:28 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-254.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

lain-
<<I just wish I knew what it was that I always do so wrong.>>

*two smoldering red eyes blink open deep inside the shadows in a corner of the CR*

You care.

*the eyes close and disappear as if nothing was ever there; hehehehe that rhymes...*

Traveler
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:16:32 PM
IP: 208.246.218.30

lain> Ohhhhhh, you're soooo sweet! *continues waltzing*

James & Matt> I just read that part about Duval n Pendragon. Thank you so much for the info...I am amazed!

****TGS SPOILERS****
This isn't really a spoiler, but whatever. I was wondering, if the gargoyles were having Family Night, why wasn't Demona there? They did re-admit her into the clan and I would have thought that she would be trying to make ammends as seen from last season. Anyone?
****END****

SOROW
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:04:48 PM
IP: a020-0750.dll2.splitrock.net

SOROW>> Big hugs for SOROW.. *HUGS HUGS* big cuddly squishy snuggly hugs.. thank you.
*takes SOROW in her arms and waltzes her around the CR just for fun.. cos girls can do that sorta stuff ;) then hands her a white rose and a folded paper crane*

Lynati>> Thanks, too *snuggles* I am feeling muchly better.. thanks to all of you for friendly helpful words :)
*HUGS*

Xena Trek>> *hugs* then runs away to hide under the desk in the corner..

I had something else important to say but.. It has gone away.. I suppose I shall have to think real hard and remember what it is..
love,

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:00:25 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

James & Matt> Thanks for the info, I'll have to check it out.

lain> I admit that I don't know you as well as some of the other guys in here, but I just want you to know what your message meant to me. I've been feeling terrible all day long and it goes something like this...I pulled up (with my boyfriend in the car) at the McDonalds drive-in and a middle age man pulls up right next to me at the same time. It was obvious that he was not waiting in line but decided that he was there first. He then proceeded to call me horrible, and I mean horrible, names (even a #$@! little wench). What did my boyfriend do...absolutely nothing! He just sat there like a blob and didn't even come to my defense. Even when the man threatened to trash my car, my friend did nothing. I was crushed and devastated for two reasons: 1) it was the first time a stranger had ever cussed and yelled at me before, and 2) my best friend didn't try to protect me. Where is all of this going, you ask? I read your story and then read how people in here made you feel better, and I realized that my situation is not so bad. If you can feel better and realize that there are some wonderful people in here who want to make the world better, than surely I can too. I know that this might not have made any sense, but I just wanted to tell you to hang in there and we'll all get through these things...as a clan :)

SOROW
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 06:28:25 PM
IP: a020-0642.dll2.splitrock.net

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, I am waiting on responses from your characters before I start some finishing touches.

Oh yea, previously, the Speed Stars were working on demolishing DPH's house.
**END RP RELATED**

1+1=3

Winterwolf - Thanks for those touching words. I wish some people would have stayed in my life for a longer period of time, but, oh well.

**WORK RELATED**
Waiting. darn it. I used to have severe problems with waiting, but now it is just annoying. what am I waiting on? A call to indicate my background check is being done or a call to take a drug test at work.
**END WORK RELATED**

Daniel Johnson - funny how we both knew what our first names meant. Of course, we both have known that by rearranging the letters of our first name, we get denial, not a river in Egypt.

You know, Oberon's words of 'Sleep, sleep, sleep" sound really good. Too bad I can't use them to catch up on Zzzz without getting in trouble at work.

**BFTS RP continues - Unexpected Sacrifices**
*AD*
Xelom is desparately looking for temporary workers to fill long term positions as temps.
*END AD*
*At DPH's house, just before the battle starts*
The Speed Stars try to destroy the windows of DPH's house with sonic cannons, but discover the windows are resistant. They pull out machine guns, rocket and missile launchers and aim at DPH's house. Within 1 hour, DPH's house is reduced to rubble.

*Meanwhile back on the battlefield*
Plastique replies, "I feel fine thanks to the fresh air."

Uriel replies, "Same thing here."
**END BFTS RP for now**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 06:14:19 PM
IP: max1-25.cwy.cei.net

***Delurks****

Yes, I'm still alive :)

Lynati>You can download Deadly Force at avalon.gargoyles-fans.org or click on my name.

****TGS SPOILERS****
Good first episode of TGS Gargoyles. My applause to all who are involved.
****END SPOILERS****

Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 05:45:24 PM
IP: dial-188.ocis.net

**LC enters the room, laughing maniacally** IT'S ALIVE! ALIVE! (my computer, that is.) :) Man, it rules having a roommate whose brother is a computer engineer. Although I have no earthly clue what he did...he spent maybe a minute playing around, and it worked. :)

XenaTrek> Ack! Sorry again for leavin' ya out. I didn't mean to! Of course I like to talk to ya. :)

Lynati> Yep, sadly enough, from what I understand Toon Disney is skipping "Deadly Force" on purpose, because of the whole gun issue. Even though this has to be one of the best television episodes I've ever seen, and one of the only ones brave enough to tackle the whole gun safety issue. And do it extremely well, I might add. *sigh*

lain> I'm sorry to hear about your friend. If you need to vent or anything, feel free to drop me a line! You have my sympathies. **hugs**

Oh, yeah, and since my internet thingy's fixed, I'll be around again. Cool. :) Have a sweet day, everyone!

Lady Corax
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 05:32:45 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*Lynati Enters*

*Goes over to couch, flops down next to lain. After a minute, she turns and abruptly gives lain a big bear (heh heh) hug.

lain:FEEEEEEEEL BEEETTTTTERRRRRRRR!!
I have felt that way... when no-on esekd you out. when you try to do something that you think will cheer up your friends and they wiond up telling you to shut up because they don't care and you start crying silently as they go back to their stupid computer game and you sit their for twenty minute with tears trickling off your face and they glance at you and continue to play and laugh and ignore you utterly and you get up and walk out of the room and no-one follows you and then you n ever speak to any of them for the rest of the school year and they don't even CARE enough to call you up and ask what's wrong and you realize that you were correct in the assumption that they weren't your friends at all and you forget them for the most part and get on with your life.
Or, then, you have another friend, your best friend, and she doesn't return your e-mails for six months and you start getting really depressed and then one day you get twenty responses from her because it turned out that ther account had been screwed up and she couldn't check her e-mail at all, and thus never learned that you had misplaced her new phone number and figured you were too busy to call HER, and things end up working out alright.

And then, sometimes, they just don't realize how much they mean to us, and slowly lose touch.

Warpmind: *Goes over to Warpmind, curls up next to him, and grins at lain and the Green Baron*

Todd Jensen: >prtesting "curse of the talismen"< I'll take up that idea.:) *writes idea down in notes*

Tim- happy B-day!
(and again, a very merry un-birthday to everyone else in the CR...)

I've been systematically working my way throught the fanfic archives in my spare time; interesting stuff there.

Hey- I've been taping gargoyles off toon disney now (because all my original tapes are horribly fuzzy and in bad color, and all kinds of out of sequence)and I noticed that while they are showing the episodes In Order, they SKIPPED "Deadly Force". I take it this was deliberate?*sigh*

well, as I seem to be writing long letters and such today, I guess I'll take this time to share one of my favorite Dar Williams songs with y'all. It might have been a bit more fitting a couple weeks ago, but oh well...


"Amber called her Uncle, said "We're up here for the holiday-
Jane and I were having Solstice; now we need a place to stay."
and her Christ-loving Uncle watched his wife hang Mary on the tree
and he watched his son hang candy-canes all made with red dye #3
He told his niece "It's Christams Eve; I know our life is not your style..."
She said, "Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you, and it's been a while."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able
Just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said
sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods- and goddesses...

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch-
'til Timmy turned to Amber, and said "Is it true that you're a witch?"
His mom jumped up and said "The pies are burning!" and she hit the kitchen.
It was Jane who spoke, and said "It's true your cousin's not a Christian;
But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share,
and you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere."

So the Christains and the Pagans sat together at the table
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able
Where does magic come from? I think magic's in the learning;
'cause now when Christians sit with pagans, only pumpkin pies are burning...^_^

When Amber tried to do the dishes, her Aunt said "really, no, don't bother"
Amber's Uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father
He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year
and he thought he'd call him up, and say "it's Christmas, and your daughter's here."
He thought of fathers, sons, and brothers; saw his own son tug his sleeve,
saying, "can I be a pagan?" Dad said "we'll discuss it when they leave."

So the Christians and the pagans sat together at the table
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able
Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old
and making sense of history, and drawing warmth out of the cold."
-Dar Williams, "The Christians and the Pagans"

*Lynati trots off to read that second Aaron Wheeler story.*

Lynati
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 04:49:08 PM
IP: 207.226.219.50

Green Baron>> just got that phone bill, too..
ouch..
:P

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 03:22:51 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Not goin to Alberta?? well then..
*books flight to Mexico*
Looks like yer gettin yer sand after all GB ;)

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 03:19:18 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

More than one way around the internet.
Hey listen For some reason all I can do is lurk from my computer. When I go to submit it flashes that it's "Forbidden" This might be me provider jacking with me, but I don't know. I'm curious that if it's on y'alls end of the line. Who ever is in charge of site access an the CR could you check to see if I was accidentally locked out some how or placed on a bad list or something.
I'd appreciate it because this is a pain.
Anyhow I thought that was an interesting season opener and I'm glad that the main series is running again
later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 02:43:35 PM
IP: labpc86622.artlab.unt.edu

Hi,

Just wanted to drop this in here for Lain. I hope it helps.

Special People enter your life and will be with you either for a RESON, a SEASON or a LIFETIME. When you figure out which it is, you know exactly what to do.

When someone is in your life for a REASON, it’s usually to meet a need you have expressed outwardly or inwardly. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally.

Then, without any wrong doing on your part or at an inconvenient time,
this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end.

Sometimes they act up or out and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled; their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and it is now time to move on.


When people come into your life for a SEASON, it is because your turn has come to share.
They may bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it! It is real! But, only for a season.


LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons; those things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person/people (anyway); and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

Lain> I don’t know if that message helps you or not… I sincerely hope that it does. Regardless you are wonderful and I’m happy and blessed to know you! You have friends here and I would be honored to be counted among them. **COMFORT HUGZ**

More later.

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:00:23 PM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

*lain tumbles in, wearing the bear hat Lynati gave her, Sits down on the couch and wonders a little where Green Baron is hiding..* :(

Niamgold>> love, I have been there :( This thing with your friend and her eating is not a happy thing at all :(. I have seen this one.. and it is flashing WARNING SIGNS at me, even from far away on the internet. It is a common misconception that the eating disorder bulimia involves much throwing up etc. This is NOT true. What it involves is the getting rid of (percieved) excess food by some means or another. For some, throwing up is the easiest way. For others, they prefer compulsive exercise. It is the same thing. So maybe it doesn't quite have the same health side effects as drinking tasty battery acid on a regular basis but not eating and exercising and not drinking water is not healthy at all.. Other signs to look for are if the person's self worth seems hinged on how low their weight is, if they are dependent on outside sources for approval or have a constant preocupation with their weight or how they look.
I can't really stress too much that IF your friend actually DOES have an eating disorder, it could be life-threatening.. If she ends up losing her menstrual period.. THAT is a bugger to fix.. and at 95 pounds..
It is also not uncommon for victims of this sort of thing to become involved in alcohol and/or drug abuse.

So.. right.. now that I have scared you.. let me say that it's a good idea to express your concerns to your friend. She might not be as bad as all of the above but such things can quickly escalate.. I warn you that she probably will think you are just being silly and might even get angry (when people get angry, it is sometimes an acknowledgement of truth). Try to get her to see a physician who can assess her physical condition. And be aware that this has roots IN THE FAMILY and nothing is gonna get done if the family doesn't want to hear about it and acknowledge it exists..
Just be with her. Don't let her push you away, isolation feeds this sort of thing, just as this sort of thing feeds isolation.

I have a friend who has had bulimia for 9 years. That is HALF OF HER LIFE, and my insides cry out because I don't know what to do. I can see through her, too. "how are you today" "I am pretty good, thanks" "in the way that you really aren't" *stare for a minute* "no.. "
*sighs*
She is one messed up friend.. :*(

Anyway.. ramble ramble.. I hope that might have been somewhat helpful to you or anyone else who is noticing any sort of thing in anyone else around them.
*VERY BIG GENTLE HUGS* Email me if you want to ask anything about all that :)

Valentine>> nope.. no sleep for wee little me.. not even a little.. This means I have been awake since 4am yesterday. Am I tired?? nope.. LP

Thanks to all friendly people who put up with me rambling on and whining last night
*MORE HUGS ALL ROUND*

Green Baron is BACK!!!!! He was NOT abducted by aliens or run over with a big truck or something equally disasterous...

more later
Love,

lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:27:10 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*appears in a flash of light*

Short Hi from work.

Kyryn> I too want to apologize - I never intended this to be some sort of a personal attack or such - it's just that this whole stuff ain't anything near readable on my system at home or college. Problem is that Word puts in a lot of characters not supported by anything else but Microsoft *sighs*

Regarding the job at TGS: Well, I don't have the time to be an editor, nor do I have the language skills to proofread any story - but I mayhaps can build a small script that runs on garg-fans and removes all the surplus tags. Only thing I fear: such a script will never be 100% reliable, as MS Word never ceases to 'spit out' new combinations of strange code.

I can imagine the amount of work you are investing into this, and I am grateful that there's still people doing so. The time I invest into the Fanfic-Archive is less by far I think. And the work I put into each story to be Unix/Linux-readable cannot be counted either...

<Nitpicker-mode>BTW: Wasn't Ariana's written with just one 'n', not two like in the entire last story? :)</Nitpicker-Mode>

A suggestions would be to downgrade to the MS Office 95 or even 97 (used in last pendragon-season) - the code that version did was at least manageable. Still not completely to my liking but easyly corrected - unlike the huge stuff Word 2000 builds. Another way would be an external converter - yet I still look for one that is reliable. I'll inform you if I come up with anything - the current situation is not acceptable. Just imagine a 'long' episode..... with the size of the file getting 3 time as big. That alone cannot be wanted, let alone the problems some will have in reading.

Once again - this is not personal but technical. Your work is apreciated - just the output MS Word builds is not.

And now for something completely different: Only 630 stories to go and the archive holds all stories up to 02.01.2001. Next Update will be around thursday.

*disappears in a flash of light*

Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:33:11 AM
IP: mailgate-a.ais-gmbh.de

Hello! * ^_~ *

Green Baron> <<I rent teh car. You drive.>> lol Alright, hope you enjoy roller coasters and trilling car stunts and the like! :P lol kindding, i drive like a grandma almost :P

Dreamie> << Shawn Michaels and Mel Gibson>> lol I dont know who that first one is, but I'm pretty sure Mel is australian, and I've already got "move to Australia, Australia=tasy guys" on my list of alternatives ;P

Winterwolf> <<You didn't give me any extra hugs! >>*gasp* i'm sorry!!! *HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ HUGZ* There! Better?! :P << female winterwolf>> lol NOW I see! :P hey, I used to know a lady Warewolf at castle chat who had a realy neet drawing. and my Cortan was a Wearwolf too, aparently I've had quite a few dealings with you wolfie kind :P <<You wanted to know what you said!>> Ohhhhhhh! What lesson was that tho? Never put an egg in the microwave oven? Never pet a burning dog? Never spit into the wind? :P or maybe the lesson I was just teaching Gunjack? :P <<But it is nice to talk to yourself sometimes. >> yes, it is, who understands me better than me?! *cali answeres herself: no one does, you darling girl, you! :P* <<Less fights that way! >> Yeah, and besides, Confront yourself, and you shall always win! One way or the other, right? :P

Gunjack> <<*Hands her glass* ...It's 48 hours late, but you can't have everything... ; )>>lol who says?! :P *drinks from glass and hopes she doesnt grow another tail* ;P <<Two of the more prominent bastions of the Male Spirit.>> lol I asume when you say "Male Spirit" you are refering again to big sexist macho men, cuz thats the first thing I thought of when relating Texax and Scotland with men :P

Niamhgold>> Your friends diet is VERY un healthy! if shes losing wait, its muscle mass shes loosing, realy. I mean I have to follow a specific diet because I have low metabolism where I have to eat every 3 hours and I've reacently lost some wait as well, I cant imagen how long she could keep this up, but it cant be good, she should see a nutritionist.

Egad, I gotta go! Bye-ee!!! *HUGZ all and scoots on out*

Caliope
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 07:19:12 AM
IP: 136.145.70.217

Lady Corax: Re: >> My apologies to those of you I usually catch on IM, but I probably won't be on for a while! (Coyote and GB especially!) >> What? You don't like talking to me? I feel so bummed out. (Just kidding). Thanks for the inside.

GB: >> Check your email in a little bit... I'm in a middle of writing to you now.

XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 07:03:22 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Rodlox>> you will clone Warps?? OK OK I AM FEELING BETTER REALLY I AM I PROMISE I AM FEELING SOOOOOOO VERY MUCH BETTER :):):):):):):):):):)
just promise you won'e clone warps.. there are enough turkey basters and jam floating around in here thankyou very much geeeeeh...
;)

thanks *HUGS.. even ones for Warps..*
:)

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 03:14:47 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca


LAIN: put down whatever it is you're doing - but not on yourself!!
remind yourself that Major Idiot over there has just become what is popularly known as "Cannon fodder". he is NOT worth stressing yourself about and over!
whether or not Warpmind ever stopps hugging you, rest assured that I {and, no doubt, everyone in this Chat Room} will always be here, to listen to you, to talk with you - just you ask.
I'd suggest my personal remedy of watching a sad movie {i myself finished watching the last 1/2 hour of _Savior_ with Dennis Quaid {took me this long to stop crying - which I may do again if I hear anyone sing}}...but that might backfire.
pamper yourself, treat yourself well {supremely well, if only for a night {"and a night is long" forgot who said that}.


and if you STILL don't feel better, then I'll - I'll...

I'll...I'll er...


I'll...

I'll clone Warpmind!

{somehow, that lacks a threat}. :)

Rodlox - [Rodlox@hotmail c.om]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 02:28:43 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

*Enters wearing trenchcoat, with his left arm jammed deep into the pocket*

Gside><<Because I am incredibly cheap.>> Some things are worth the money. Final Fantasy titles, Trenchcoats, Berrettas, that kinda thing... <<Though it was mostly a rhetorical question...>> I'm a master of rhetoric... ; ) <<A2? Is this a new version of the formula that only targets one arm?>> Give the OTHER man a cigar... 8 ) *pulls left hand out of pocket to reveal a shiny blue Kiyoraka tentacle* ...PN deliveries can be danged fast when you mark the "deliver by" date 1/1/86...

Warpmind - Now that your back, will you be making good on those puns you missed? I'm in suspense here...

Lynati - Welcome back... : ) *points to Warps* ...gotta watch out for that, ma'am... If you start running now, you might be able to get away before he unwrap-*FWUMP* ...too late... : P

Anyway, that's about it for today... Gotta get back to bodygaurding. Peace, people...

Gunjack Valentine - [Miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 01:58:06 AM
IP: 216-146-183-72.bwn.net

oh look.. lain is super depresso..
*smacks self*
aaah, much better..
*hangs sunny pictures on wall*
even better..
*takes tylenol for headache*
the road to recovery is starting to look shinier..

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 01:28:51 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Well, here I am back on the ethernet (!@$# 240 meg limit), (not) ready to get back to work. At least my schedule doesn't seem too bad.

New TGS: Nice. Seemed to set up a couple conflicts for the season.

Gunjack> <<I knew t'would be worth staying up to catch Gside's post>>: I feel so honored.
<<By the way, why not just byuy one?>>: Because I am incredibly cheap.
<<Just checked, and they all worked fine for me>>: Odd, I could have sworn it told me there was a bad image hwen I went there before.
<<Uh, "Chaste"?>>: Give the man a cigar. Though it was mostly a rhetorical question, since that was the only word in all three definitions.
<<Drops V242A2 order form into the NP requisitions pouch>>: A2? Is this a new version of the formula that only targets one arm?

Chibis> <<he says fish do disgustingly physical things in it, and refuses to elaborate>>: That sounds quite clean compareed to Jersey water.
<<Rorschack, from Watchmen!>>: Very good. Though it is spelled Rorschasch. Though I could live with a plain Bogey outfit. Do you think I should start carrying around cube sugar and pepper?

HTML debacle> Yes, the code is amazingly ugly, but I can live with that since I don't have to see it, and the only problem I saw was a non-<br>ed line, on both Netscape 4. and 6.

Selanit> <<The site WILL be navigable without pop-ups, for older and 3rd-party browsers>>: Good to hear. Though I personally don't care much, and would like to avoid lynx as much as possible. Or at least until I can try it out outside of telnet.

Lain> May you find a friend worthy of you.
<<getting water all over my glasses and not being smart enough to bring a kleenex>>: That's what fringes of clothes are for (once they dry).

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 01:27:58 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

*Loud thumps are heard from the closet. Then, the door slams open, and what appears to be a writhing mummy hops out, tripping and slumping to the floor. After a few moments of twisting, a hand sticks out and successfully begins to unwind the bandages. Soon, Warpmind de InzanE crawls loose, casting a foul glare at his chibis.*
Sheesh, I gotta remember to keep my guarana-based energy drinks better locked away in the future... *glances at yesterday's post* Hooboy, they went *that* far, did they? *Sigh* Oh, well...

Lynati: *Swoops her up in a hug* You're BACK!!! :) Oh, and I've replied to your mail. :)

By the way, Revel e-mailed me to inform everyone that a) He's bakc at school safely, and b) the computers there won't let him access the CR.

Happy Belated, Tim.

Lain: *Sympathic hug* There, there... This, too, shall pass... Nothing's wrong with you, save maybe a streak of grim fortune. *Sigh* Seems to be a lot of that going around these days...

*Checks watch* Yipe! I gotta run, lest I'll get mopped up by the floor therapist! Later, everyone. *Wanders off, casting a threatening glare at chibis.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 01:25:40 AM
IP: ti21a68-0064.dialup.online.no

you know, there isn't much of a more effective way of making a friend feel like CRAP than that.. way to make you feel so TOTALLY dispensable. I mean.. I have to start wondering WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME??? What is it??? Anyone have any ideas?? Do I not try enough? Am I so broken and ugly now that everyone I think is my friend just wants to throw me by the wayside? Everyone I trust? All my highschool friends and their little plot "oh let's all try out for this play together and not tell her.. " "oh let's go to the movies and just not mention it so she'll not know" I trusted them.. I gave them everything I had and they just took it and took it until I was so empty I had nothing left. And then I needed them. When my mother died I needed them and where were they? Oh.. a few came to her funeral and sat in a circle laughing at the reception. Not one of them hugged me, or touched me at all. All these strangers I didn't know all around me and just when I was choking for something familiar it was all gone. And they never phoned me after that.
So I came to this school. My roommate was so supportive and loving in my first year and now where is she? I haven't seen her in months. What did I do? I wrote her Christmas cards, I left her messages on her machine..
I am just so tired I hardly feel I have strength to breathe.
I just wish I knew what it was that I always do so wrong.

lain
Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:26:19 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*lain enters, choking with tears, tears she has not cried in years*
I just got an email from someone I might have considered my very best friend. Someone I was very much looking forward to travelling by myself to see on the Spring Break from school. When he left the base in Ontario for CFB Cold Lake, he didn't contact me really, but I got the army to hunt him down for me..
He was so happy when I called.. and so was I. He was such a good friend to me, when my mother died, he phoned and comforted me, though we had hardly talked in months when he was away at training camp. We used to email every day. I love his MP stories, how dumb people can be sometimes ;)
He hasn't emailed for days.. I was beginning to wonder if he was OK. When I checked just not, there was a message from him, about how he has been so busy on the phone with his new girlfriend, and hasn't had time for any email.
I feel my heart is aching.
I feel my body is broken.
I feel so ashamed of myself.
I feel I want to cry until I am empty.
Not because I thought he was going to be Mr. Super special to me but because what he wrote to me hurt. Like I had a friend who thought I was worth their time and now I am less than second best. It was like he was trying to imply I was a chore.
I was so looking forward to seeing him. But now I fear if I go I will just be in the way. My father has made his travel plans, knowing that I was going elsewhere, so I suppose I will just stay here by myself for a week.
I feel so empty. But as I have always said, never keep best friends, they can be used against you in a time of war.. which is a fun way of saying friends will always stab you in the back, no matter how much you love them.
Just adding to my day of joy.. locking myself out of my room, stupid spontaneous nosebleeds, headache that was so bad I threw up aching back going to class not knowing it was raining and getting water all over my glasses and not being smart enough to bring a kleenex.. GAH.
I just want to go to bed and stay there for a month..

lain
Monday, January 15, 2001 11:48:32 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Yes, my entry for the Gathering mini-poster is completed with 16 days to spare! I didn't know which style I wanted to go with. I like realism, but my cartoon style has been more popular amongst the fans, so I combined them both. Check out the outfit Miss Marilyn-Garg is wearing! It says, "Act 5, The Gathering L.A."
Brianna - [<-- Gathering Poster Entry]
Monday, January 15, 2001 11:48:07 PM
IP: dialup-w-266.mint.net

Kyryn> I, too, would like to extend my apologies. I realize that you do a difficult job, and I'm sorry if I offended you.

That said, I must also say that I think the criticism is legitimate. TGS should be available to anyone who wants to read it. Using the "Save as HTML" feature in Word is easy, but generates huge files with needlessly complex code that simply won't display properly for many visitors.

I see that Daniel has already offered to help. I am willing to help, too. Please email me (selanit@hotmail.com) and we'll discuss the matter.

Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:35:18 PM
IP: smit18-103-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu

Sorow: If you want to know more about Hector Duval, I suggest reading the Pendragon: Season 3 Episodes "Iris, Lily, & Rose" pts. 1 & 2. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but let's just say the truth might surprise you...
Matt "King Snarf" MAybray - [reginald_q_bumbershoot@hotmail.com]
Drexel Hill, PA, 19026
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:34:36 PM
IP: a030-0681.phl2.splitrock.net

Kyryn:
Whoa! Apparently, I've touched quite a nerve here. I was trying to make what I considered a valid criticism in a light and teasing way. At least that was the attempt. Obviously, I failed miserably, which isn't too surprising since I'm such an expert at screwing things up. Sigh. I offer my most sincere apologies if you were offended. I have nothing but respect for the work that you and the rest of the TGS staff have done and continue to do. Ed is right about how thankless a job editing can be and I'm SURE you don't get the credit you deserve. I can understand how difficult it must be to deal with multiple file formats while trying to catch every little mistake. I didn't realize that doing all of that was your responsibility alone. One person couldn't POSSIBLY be expected to manage that. I simply didn't know whether you were aware that other people were having trouble reading the story. TGS certainly can't exist without the hardworking people who produce it, but it also can't exist without people who are eager and *able* to read it. It's not YOUR fault that *Microsoft* Word generates horrible code that only *Microsoft* Internet Explorer can read properly (sometimes). I didn't make that distinction clear enough before.

As for volunteering to help, I would be delighted to do so if you have some use for the few skills I have. Last week when Robby announced that TGS was looking for help, I sent him an email as per his instructions. I don't honestly know if I could be of help, but I would be honored to do whatever I can. I have found the TGS project quite awe-inspiring from the beginning, and I don't think that any words can adequately express how I feel. Which is probably why I've rambled on and on for so long. ;) So I'm going to shut up now and crawl into this nice little corner with my nice little dunce cap on and mutter incomprehensibly. (And this differs from usual how?)

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:02:58 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**enters and spots DC hiding in the corner**

You ... **narrows eyes** you *know* I'm comin' for you, don't you? **picks up DC and drags him out of the room** Excuse me for a moment, I'm gonna go keelhaul this maggot under a late model luxury car, I'll be right back.




**40 minutes later, returns with DC's broken and battered body**

And now I hope you learned your lesson. Ethernet connections are nothing for you to mess with. **drops DC's body to the floor** And I hope Mr. Tailpipe taught you a very valuable lesson about screwin' with my friends.

Now ... **sighs and collects himself** what's going on here? Oh yeah, new ep got posted. :)

Christine: Best of luck to Becca. I did my fair share of oral damage when I was a kid ... left me with a lifelong fear of dentists of any sort. **shudder**

Spike: I see you mentioned comiccontinuum,com. This might surprise a lot of folks out there ... but d'you realize who the host server is for that site?

Give up?
It's the Detroit Free Press.

Milady Corax: I guess we change the music to something a bit more universally acceptable ... at least I hope ... **drops in the Brian Setzer Orchestra**
Here's hoping you get your computer back up and running. (though I get the feeling it was trying to give ya an excuse. ;)

One last thing ... WHEEL 'ER IN, BOYS!

**moving crew brings in its first Execution^TM cake of the true new millennium**

Tim, happy b-day. **hands Tim the remote** Pick yer flavor. ;)

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, January 15, 2001 09:47:31 PM
IP: 216.28.101.82

Todays my Birthday! No, I'm not a black guy named Martin, but a white guy who, as of 5:34 pm, I turned 20 years old. No presents or cards please. Checks will be just fine. : )
Tim
Monday, January 15, 2001 07:21:47 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Here I come to screw up the day <--I just had to say that once.

*TGS SPOILERS**
Really complex story, but it is well suited for a season opener. The revelation about relatives of Matt Bluestone seems like an attempt to change the status-quo. I just hope it is changed for the better. The senate committee meeting sounds like something the Illumaniti wanted, so I expect the outcome has already been decided. I just wonder how long is it before Matt Bluestone tells the Illumaniti the entire truth. The mission of the Illumaniti seems too idealistic. It seems to me like they would be always changing the status quo until everyone is finally happy with it.
**END TGS SPOILERS**

Somebody please fix the code right away. Beyond that, I will not say anything.

yep, I am going to end the RP battle today, with a pre-planned so be warned that:

this will be a long post afterall
this will be a long post afterall
a long, long post.

Green Baron - Have minorities ever resented your family's financial situation?

Gargoyles memory - I mean aside from Unseelie forces, what else caused the memory of Gargoyles to be forgotten from 994 ad?

**BFTS RP continues - It's payback time**
**AD**
Is competent management getting annoying? Go to work for Xelom?
**END AD**
Several portals suddenly show up and clear the air completely out, allowing Plastique and Uriel to see Winterwolf, Frost, and Jason Filler and vice versa.

The portals quickly disappear as NCA looks around for the cause.

Suddenly, behind NCA, a portal opens and out steps . . . DPH, fully recovered.

DPH starts to mumble some words in Latin and NCA starts to attack him. Luckily Jason Filler blocks those attacks.

DPH has been mumbling some words in Latin when unexpectedly he says, "Magna Consentration Spell". Instantly, lightning bolts began hitting DPH. Suddenly, DPH is completed surrounded by a blinding white light. Seconds later, the light disappears. Everyone looks shocked to see DPH's appearance has changed. He looks incredibly muscular and
super strong.

Dozens of portals quickly appear, swallow up the hordes of stone creatures, and disappear.

NCA says, "So this is what you have been working on. I'm impressed. But let's see how you handle this.". With that, NCA starts to send a fireball at DPH, but the fireball is destoryed before it is formed by a thunderbolt. NCA raises his forcefield to maximum strength.

DPH says, "NCA, prepare to die." Instanteously, DPH summons a forcefield surrounding NCA's forcefield. What looks like lightning bolts start coming from DPH's forcefield and attacking NCA's forcefield. Moments later, NCA disappears.

DPH says, "I pushed NCA out of space and time. He should be long dead." Suddenly, DPH reverts back to previous appearance and collapses.

Jason heads to DPH, touches him, and asks Connect what Connect thinks. Jason then says, "DPH's mind is exhausted, but his body is in perfect health. How is everyone else doing?"
**END BFTS RP for now**

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, I will let you take it from here.

Ok, What does DPH mean by 'Magna Consentration Spell'? Well, DPH has been working on a spell to boost his mental consentration capacities. Obviously, the spell worked, and DPH temporarily boosted his consentration capacities.
**END RP RELATED**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 07:01:21 PM
IP: max1-54.cwy.cei.net

KATHY - I'd heard about that book, and saw it in the local bookstore, although I haven't read it. (The thing that could spook me a little, if I let it, is that I understand that in it, the Unseelie Court's headquarters are the Cahokia Mounds, which are an actual archaeological site close to St. Louis. Just what I want - the Unseelies for neighbors).

Does anybody else besides me feel that we "Gargoyles" fans ought to be protesting "Curse of the Talisman" as yet another attempt to perpetuate the unjust stereotyping of gargoyles as evil? :) (It would be interesting to see how the clan would respond to it when they find out about it).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, January 15, 2001 06:41:29 PM
IP: 216.87.46.136.dialup-stl.primary.net

Valentine>> smart-arse.. :P
lain
Monday, January 15, 2001 06:33:33 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

**LC runs into the room, shooting a glare at the evil Mr. Disconnect.**

Hey, all. Just wanted to let all of you know that I'm having some major computer troubles right now, so I might not be around that much. My apologies to those of you I usually catch on IM, but I probably won't be on for a while! (Coyote and GB especially!) **shoots a glare at Mr. DC** And you...ooh, I wouldn't want to be you when I get back...

Cool new TGS ep, BTW. :)

Well, gotta run. If anybody knows a lot about ethernet connections and/or stubborn printers that refuse to work, please let me know! Catch y'all later! :)

Lady Corax
Monday, January 15, 2001 06:33:22 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-2.rescomp.arizona.edu

Sorrow> Hello. Earth to yous. Duval is head of Illuminati
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 05:23:19 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-16-97.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Crocuhing Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a good movie. I just saw it
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 05:22:16 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-16-97.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

ACK! This is what I get for not posting in a week! Not only is the new TGS ep posted, but I just found out that Jeff Bennet is going to be at the Con. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! I just finished running around the house screaming, but you know me! Excitable. I have to say the my going to the gathering this June is the best present I will ever get! I LOVE YOU ALL!

****TGS SPOILERS****
Ahhhh, it feels so good to be able to say that :) The ep was great, though I'm not a big fan of cliffhangers. Since you all know that Brooklyn is my fav character, you can probably imagine my hysterics when he was shot. I bet the twins are going to go into a nervous breakdown. But I always have a nagging suspicion in Timedancer and TGS that Brooklyn never takes leadership over the Manhattan Clan, and you all are probably saying "Don't say that, you moron!" But doesn't anyone else feel that it's a little weird in Manhattan 2158 that no one ever mentions Brooklyn having led the clan. Hmmmmm, well that's my suspicion anyway and I don't even want to think about what *might* happen next week! Unfortunately, Brooklyn gets hurt or mortally wounded a lot in the series eps. Poor baby.
But anyway, I'm glad Beth is getting involved in the story more and now I wish I knew who Duval is. Can someone give me a short explanation please? Love ya.
****END SPOILERS****

SOROW
Monday, January 15, 2001 05:17:09 PM
IP: a030-0689.dll2.splitrock.net

*jaw drops open in astonishment*

I never thoguht I'd see it... Gargoyles comments!? In a Gargoyles comment room? Who could have imagined!?

Gunjack Valentine
Monday, January 15, 2001 04:13:50 PM
IP: 216-146-184-195.bwn.net

GARGOYLES: ‘WAYSTATION’ PART ONE

***Comments and spoilers***

I don’t envy you guys doing the ‘Gargoyles’ series. Following up a season with 40+ episodes, keeping afloat the sprawling main cast and keeping forgetful people (that’s me, btw :)) up to speed with what’s going on is a pretty tough task. What I was hoping for was a nice and slow introductory story that consolidated what we knew, starting with Goliath – perhaps with cursory glances at the activities of the other gargoyles.

‘WAYSTATION’ doesn’t really do all this as well as I’d like, but then it seems to set out far more broadly to set up a season and so my measures are hardly very fair. Goliath’s role is fairly minimal, whilst Matt’s role is perhaps rather heavy for somebody that is – essentially – a peripheral character. This was however a very good way of sneaking in the essential background to human-gargoyle relations through the interview – although I kind of wish that this had given a bit more depth. At least the Goliath-Elisa announcement was interesting. Although I disliked that Elisa was billing it as a ‘shock’. Sure, that she was dating a gargoyle is a shock. But one assumes that all present accept that. That they were getting engaged, I feel shouldn’t be packaged like that: if she was so genuinely concerned, a big meeting is a really cruel way to break it, especially since everybody else seems to already know.

Still, don’t go thinking I disliked this. I liked it. A lot. There’s a load of fun character chucked in. Few of them get any focus, but they’re about all the same. Beth got the only laugh out of me though:
“I don’t know if I’d be comfortable working for a guy who’s, you know, evil”
I’ll be very glad if Beth’s introduction gives rise to more stories dealing with the nature of Xanatos’ reform – or the potential for the lack of it. TGS has thus far painted him to be a very nice guy, but although he’s at peace with the gargoyles doesn’t mean that he’s lost his sense of fun, his desire for immortality or his ruthless nature. Beth is perfect to balance this: she’s got a very open and natural personality, but also a genuine reason to distrust Xanatos (Derek). And if this short exchange is anything to go by, she’ll be a GREAT addition to the cast. Where possible there’s a brief hint at a recap too. There’s a few new characters too, although only with brief glimpses. Lee is great and the way she revealed her Illuminati status was delightful. Emily Gray on the other hand, I have no idea about. Has she appeared in episodes before? An interesting addition nevertheless.

The two mysterious snipers seem interesting: until the equipment was revealed I was pretty sure it was Jackal and Hyena. Still they seem familiar enough with the gargoyles to recognise that Brooklyn is the one with family, but not enough to know him by name. They also don’t seem picky as to who they kill. I guess this must be the biggest hint:
“Is it going to be enough?” she asked.
“For now. This is only the beginning.”
Plus Brooklyn’s allusion to ‘spawn’. The Space Spawn seem the obvious ones to deduce, but if so they’re considerably prompter than I had thought. Of course, spawn could be a reference to the general demonic demeanor of the gargoyles; the sort a gargoyle-hater might choose to regard them as. This would fit with the refreshers we got by Xanatos and Emily, in the Illuminati discussion, and again in the precinct house about Castaway and Clifford – and would be appropriate for the gearing up the Illuminati are doing on the gargoyle-human relations front. Of course, my theory that it’s a Quarrymen-esque group doesn’t seem to be helped any by the early Duval description:
If most of the people in the world only knew what was truly at hand, and what he and his associates were doing to protect it.
Suggests a bigger player. Perhaps somebody backing a gargophobic organisation.

Brooklyn’s hospital bed scene is fascinating. Sata evidently she knows – or at least suspects – what is going on. Her time in the twenty-second century probably attributable. I don’t like the excuse that Brooklyn was lucky not to be killed by the blast, unless it turns out (as I suspect it might) that this is all part of a plan. A little touch, but I LOVED the ‘big brother’ part. Especially from Broadway: I think this is great character use.

We’re cast into a cliffhanger on the Illuminati with an alterior motive (gee there’s a surprise). Not the best choice of cliffhanger perhaps, but still very nice. ‘WAYSTATION’ doesn’t actually feel very much like a complete instalment with a cutting cliffhanger to lead the reader onto the next episode, but rather reading a story and then having to put the book down in mid-chapter. And it’s still got a few flaws: I think the airport scenes and a couple of the Duval and Matt bits would have been better shortened to come to the point of these plot threads more quickly and spend more time focusing on Goliath and Elisa, as the leads. But it’s got a lot of promising material, a good plot and some great writing - Alan’s style is very clear and methodical which is perfect for a potentially confusing opener such as this.

I’m greatly looking forward to what the rest of the season will bring.

Kyryn: Considering the scale of the task, TGS is usually up to a very high standard – to the point where spotting the little typos and stuff is an incidental to smile at and point out rather than a bother to read. Editing must be a thankless (and surprisingly, uncredited) job. So for all the times it hasn’t been said: thank you.

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Monday, January 15, 2001 03:24:24 PM
IP: aca41c65.ipt.aol.com

Well, I'll believe it when I see it: At 7 p.m., Tuesday night, UPN is running a movie called "Curse of the Talisman." The blurb describes it as: - A group of small-town citizens must stop an invasion of medieval, flying gargoyles on Halloween night.

Doesn't sound like any gargoyles I know but might be worth a look just to see how the special effects are handled.

Spike
Monday, January 15, 2001 03:14:46 PM
IP: adsl-64-216-237-204.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

*Lynati Enters, and is promptly bowled over by lain*

*whomp* whew, I'm scared to see how you'll react after you receive the thing I have yet to mail to you...

Warpmind: Nope. Couldn't think of anything else.

...What? Season THREE! YAAAAY!
uh-oh...Scary Things Are Happening...and a whole week until episode two. :*( I can't stand the suspense!
*sits down*
But at least it's back now! Yaay again!

kathy: it didn't happen to say when "Narcissus in Chains" is coming out, did it? It's supposed to be a spring release, with the Fey series in the fall. Kiss of Shadows has been out since september, so I'd imagen the new Anita book should be out soon.###Spoiler?### Number ten...Jean-Claude in a Vinyl bodysuit... and a crossdressing were-hyena. Hmmm...

*Lynati trots off to read more Gargfics...*
Lynati
Monday, January 15, 2001 02:26:51 PM
IP: 207.226.219.63

*lain runs into the CR, locates the Green Baron with GB radar, and launches into a gigantic tackle-hug, which results in the two of them careening onto the floor.. at which point there is much laughter from the onlookers, I am sure..*

Guess what *I* just got in a big shiny box in the mail today... ??? THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!

*leans over and gives GB a big smooch*

Hope you will be on IM later.. love love

Super-excito lain!!!!!
the Great White North
Monday, January 15, 2001 01:35:32 PM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Hello everybody, I just stopped by to let everyone know there are only a few spaces left at the Gathering's first Writers Workshop. This is an opportunity for those serious about their writing to sit down with their peers *AND* published professional writers and have work critiqued using the Clarion format. For more information click on my name or follow the link
http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/writers-workshop.htm
Hope to see you all at the Gathering!

Also, on a different note, I was reading my junk mail (for a change) and came across the following in the scifi book club catalogue "Meet Princess Meredith Gentry; third in line for the throne of the Unseelie Court. She's the prime character in Laurell K. Hamilton's new series and does she ever have family problems." The book is called "A Kiss of Shadows" and is currently out in hard cover.
It made me chuckle.
kathy - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com ]
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:23:33 PM
IP: rr-26-76-42.atl.mediaone.net

Waystation was good I suppose ^_^ I not gonna complain about HTML (hugs him or her)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:23:04 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-128-128.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Selanit><<About those two agents. Why on earth did they wait to assemble their gun until their target was in sight?>> Haven't read the story yet, but the usual reason is that you don't wanna stand around in a public, semi public, or even theoretically private area with a loaded rifle... Leads to bad questions.

Lain><<that do you OK? Missed my uselessness, did you?? ;)>> Oh, definately. Though since that filled in an important gap in my understanding of terms, uselessness would be a stretch... <<BTW I feel quite a lot better after the gigantic talk we had on Saturday night/Sunday morning.>> I live but to serve. Well, to serve and to play with big guns, anyway... <<And let's do that debate about the death penalty eh?? heh heh.. I would loooooove that.. ]:)>> I dunno... I've already had me fanatiscism broken once. If I went into it again, I might come out a flaming liberal! ; )

Christine - Hope Becca's tooth is healing... : (

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:20:19 PM
IP: 216-146-184-216.bwn.net

Becca update > I lucked into finding a dentist who's open today, so we have an appointment at 11:30. This is where it'll really get traumatic, though ... it was bad enough the time she had to get four shots at her doctor checkup and I know this'll be worse. Thanks to everyone for the well-wishes and support. I know how this sort of thing is with kids; both my sibs and I mangled ourselves at various points and we came through it (though for me, driving my teeth through my lip to the tune of four stitches left me with a lifelong aversion to all red foods; Mom says from that day forth, spaghetti sauce, tomato soup, even cherry pie filling, was a no-go. I'm some better now, will at least eat things of the strawberry and raspberry families). Hopefully, all this won't bend Becca too badly.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:02:20 PM
IP: 08-186.075.popsite.net

Todd Jensen> Two ways 1) Massive sized Men In Black nueralizer(s) can do it. There was an episode in animated series where that was used on all of New York after 'blimps accidently destroyed part of Brookyn Heights'. It would take many of those to zap whole world. 2) Dolphins have the technology. In 1983 our planet was destroyed by Vogans and hehe no one remembers.
James Birdsong
Token sane guy
Monday, January 15, 2001 11:41:40 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-128-128.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

***Kyryn stomps in.***

TGS HTML CODE> Folks, I work with what I've got. Especially considering that the stories are handed to me in about five different formats to start with! If you have such a problem with it, you are more than welcome to join me on the editing staff of TGS --- provided you can make the more or less full time commitment that this requires! As it is, there are times that I am doing this from work on my breaks, or from my frankenstein of a PC at home. First, it takes a large amount of time to edit these stories for grammar, usage, and content. Then, I have to mess with formatting them. Pardon me if I sound really B!tchy, but I've put a lot of my own time and effort into this. Gaundalug, I understand your problems and I understand the coding effort that you are putting into fixing the archive. If you, Selanit, or anyone else has a more reasonable solution (i.e., it isn't going to cost me anything in computer upgrades or purchased software), email me at the address below.

Pardon me, I'm going to go finish hacking my lungs out now.

***Kyryn leaves.***

Kyryn - [kyrynsan@hotmail.com]
Denton, TX
Monday, January 15, 2001 11:11:42 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

*** CRYPTIC TGS COMMETNS THAT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE SPOILERS ***

Excelent episode. I was wondering when we'd get around to them. I'm really looking forward to next week.

*** END NON-SPOILERS ***

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:47:45 AM
IP: adsl-65-65-208-98.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

aaaah yes.. clicly for the Globe and Mail site with article on the Nigerian teenager.. it's the second or third one on the page.
lain
Monday, January 15, 2001 10:06:38 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*lain enters, looking kinda tired.. which is understandable considering it is 930am and lain has already been awake for five hours... gaaaaaa...*

so.. right.. now that I am back at school and my connection os not so stupidly slow, it is time to comment on the injustices of the modern world:
Anyone else heard about the teenage Nigerian girl (somewhere between 13 and 17) sentanced to be hit with a cane 180 times for the crime of premarital sex?? That one had me none too impressed, let me tell you.. but wait.. it gets better... the young woman claims that she was raped by three of her father's friends when they came home intoxicated one night. Technically, she is recieving 100 lashes for having become pregnant and the other 80 for lying that she was raped. The reason the court concluded that she was lying was because, in order to bring forth a charge of rape, the court demands that the victim produce four witnesses. So.. how many rapes have YOU ever heard about that had four witnesses willing to testify in the victim's defence??
Yeah.. so it is pretty much agreed that 100 lashes will nearly kill the girl, so after 180 she will be toast (or pulp, I suppose). They made this lovely concession that they would allow a doctor to be present at the beating, who would tell them to stop so the girl wouldn't be killed. However, they will only stop until she has had time to recover, then resume the whipping. nice..
In Iran, there are two women sentanced to have rocks thrown at them until they die because they had an affair.. the rocks are to be of sizes such that the first few do not kill her outright, but are large enough to cause serious physical injury.. One woman is also charged with conspiracy to kill her husband, so her lover is being hanged for that..
I don't agree with the death penalty at all but.. this is a little too gruesome.. way to keep the women in line..

AAAAAAAAAnyway.. on to happier things :):):):)

***********LONG OVERDUE USELESS INFO OF THE DAY*************
Tattoo:
Various military and naval terms have made their way into the English language because of the contacts the British army and navy have had with Hollanders, either as foes or as allies. One Dutch expression in particular has become very will known. It was used by Dutch tavern keepers when the bugler or drummer sounded the nightly call for all to return to their quarters. The tavern keepers said "tap toe" meaning, "the tap (or bar) is to (or closed)" To the English soldier, that sounded like "tattoo". Hence, from the cause of this utterance, the bugle and drumming, the term was applied.
(the term tattoo as applied to patterns marking the skin is entirely unconnected with the aformentioned word. This term was adapted from the Polynesian name for that practice, "tatau".
*************END OVERDUE USELESS INFO OF THE DAY************

Valentine>> that do you OK? Missed my uselessness, did you?? ;) BTW I feel quite a lot better after the gigantic talk we had on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Still embarassed out of my skull, mind you, but a lot better *HUGS* And let's do that debate about the death penalty eh?? heh heh.. I would loooooove that.. ]:)

Green Baron>> er.. yeah.. that too :P What?? are you accusing me of having religious views that might contradict your own???? gotta have a religious view for that.. ;P
Don't worry, I still love you anyway :)
Where were you this weekend?? after Friday I kinda.. well.. missed ya :( Sorry about all that stuff I said..I probably shouldn't have.. and then I was wondering if you were angry with me for it and then I was worried about that cos I didn't see you and then I wondered if you had been in a horrible accident and that was the end and then I thought maybe they locked you in the confession booth and were never gonna let you out :P but then I saw you had posted and I thought I was just being an idiot because I probably just missed you on the net and.. my oh my this sure is a stupidly long sentance and I should stop talking and maybe even shut up.. :P~~~~~
*collapses in relieved pile on Green Baron's lap and almost instantly falls asleep*

except for:
Nice GARGOYLES episode :) should be an interesting conclusion and I can't wait :)

*sets spring loaded hug for Lynati when she returns..*
;)

love,

lain
Monday, January 15, 2001 09:38:56 AM
IP: dynrez216-32184.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Enters with Chibi Deliah, ChibiSquall and Chibi zelgadis.

Pokemon gold>>> boy is that game addicitve.

Slayers>>I just finished the first sereis and its pretty good. epsecialy when it was really datrk...Bam.. on comes something funny. I am beginning to wonder if Amelia and Zelgadis would make a cute couple::Chibi Zel stares at her with a large sweatdrop::
Christine>>>oooh ouch. I hope Becca will be allright. when I was little I was trying to run and jump into my bed with the lights off. I hit the wall instead chipping one of my front teeth.
Tick Movie>>> Yeah I read it will be played by Patrick Warburton..."Blow up the Earth? but thats where I keep all my stuff"

Yeeeeee gotta go read the new TGS!

Spacebabie
O-Town, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, January 15, 2001 09:35:02 AM
IP: user-37kapf1.dialup.mindspring.com

*** ALERT, ALERT! TGS SPOILERS! ***

Nice job, a good start to a new season. I'm glad I read Pendragon, too, because I'd be pretty confused about who the heck Duval was if I hadn't.

Erm. Why was Brooklyn stopping by the supermarket? To check on Matt's godfather? Okay, I guess, but surely a fly-by would have done just as well. I would have been MUCH more impressed if they'd shot him mid-air.

About those two agents. Why on earth did they wait to assemble their gun until their target was in sight? Imagine going into battle and saying to your opponent, "Say, be a pal and hold on a sec while I put together this gun, will you?"

As Guandalug la'Fay and Daniel have already pointed out, GET A REAL WEB-PAGE MAKER. Or do it yourselves. I mean cripes, it's not as if the TGS eps contain any particularly challenging HTML. Learn to use P, B, I, CENTER, IMG, and FONT tags and you can do it all easily. (Yes, I know some of those tags are deprecated by the W3C. But that doesn't change the fact that they're still *supported,* regardless of how the W3C feels about it.)

Seriously. I mean, even Internet Explorer had trouble with some of that HTML -- in IE 5, the paragraph that began with "Why can't we just keep using the smokescreen . . ." did not wrap properly; the entire paragraph appeared on a single line, so you had to scroll right to read the end of it. Which is just silly.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. I just think multi-browser compatibility is important. Plus I have a grudge against Word HTML. :-)

*** END SPOILERS ***

Gside -- Thanks for the feedback on the page. I kept 3rd-party browsers like Lynx in mind when I designed the page, but I couldn't think of any way to make the pop-ups work for them, either. The site WILL be navigable without pop-ups, for older and 3rd-party browsers.

Question: Am I missing some eps somewhere? I remember some episodes where they started visiting world-wide clans to help them recover from the attack, and decided to hold the Gathering of Gargoyles. And there was the one where Alex revived Owen from his teddy-bear form. But when I went looking for them, I didn't see them. Were they included as parts of this last season's Pendragon, or maybe in TimeDancer? I'm puzzled.

Must . . . . sleep. Is. . . . 5:30AM. Re-read final 3 eps of Season 2 before 1st ep of Season 3. ZZZZZzzzzzz . . . .

Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 15, 2001 07:00:02 AM
IP: smit18-103-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu

Being struck by a bit of sickness-related insomnia, I decided to browse around here a bit. What's this? A new TGS? Yay! That was a surprise. Ok, a few comments.

**** POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD ****

Good story. A little short for my tastes, but then anything shorter than, oh say, The Lord of the Rings is too short to me. :) Interesting setup; I guess the Illuminati are going to figure prominately. Not sure how I feel about that. We'll see. And what's with the mystery snipers? Hmmm.

**** END SPOILERS ****

Err, one negative comment though. The TGS staff should be made to write the following on the blackboard 100 times:
"Microsoft Word is a word processor, not an HTML editor. I will not write HTML files with Word." ;)
Seriously though, Guandalug la'Fay is right; that has to be some of the most atrocious HTML code I have ever seen. It's three times bigger than it needs to be and doesn't display properly on many browsers. It doesn't even look quite right in the Macintosh version of IE. I know that Bill Gates rules the world, and most people here are using IE on Windows, but keep in mind that not everyone does. While someone like Guandalug or me knows how to clean the code up, most people don't. I'm not ragging on anyone; I'm just informing you about something you might not be aware of.

Anyway, a nice job on balance.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 06:43:27 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

*appears in a puff of smoke*
What did my eyes see? A new TGS-Episode? Great.

*starts reading* Uhm.... I cannot comment on the story, didn't read it completely.... but there's something that disturbs me already. Please, PLEASE stop using Microsoft Word 2000 for generating HTML code. Word 97/98 was bad enough, yet the superfluous entries in the HTML were short and easily removed by a script. Word 2000 now..... let's say, after I manually removed everything that's not needed I get the story down on 48 KB - from 136 KB.

Please, ppl - remember that not everyone who's reading TGS has Windows installed and uses the Internet Explorer. Netscape under Windows has it's problems, but Netscape under Linux or Solaris (which I've to use at college) can't properly display such HTML-Code.

For all of you who don't have Windows or don't want to download that much 'trash' in a file I've got all the stories (all seasons) in 'fixed' format on my page.... let's call it the 'European TGS-Mirror'. Only the stories and their pics...... Click and follow the links :)

Fanfic Archive News: I uploaded the next bunch of stories. Reached 'N' ..... and checked, I've got more than half of the stories added. about 1300 stories up, around 900 to go. Next update will include some changes in the look of the pages, yet nothing major.

For the adult Archive: I think I'll stick to the look and feel of the current adult part. It's not that much of a difference (code-wise), so there's no problem.

*bows deeply and vanishes in a flash of light*

Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
Monday, January 15, 2001 05:17:37 AM
IP: nx7.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

*Chibi-Maggie, Chibi-Talon and Chibi-Benjamin enter, carrying various pointy objects, some of which seem disgustingly wet at the business end.*
Hello, all. We had a little family council, and decided that we'd take care of this post today, since our almost-housetrained provider, Warpmind, hasn't been quite himself lately, sighing and staring at a picture, hardly eating right (not that he had that habit to begin with, hee hee). He's totally lost, we think. All over some chick he's fallen headlong over. And we're stuck with him for another 158 days before they even meet... *Chibis stick heads together, whispering conspiratorially.* He's been going on reflex this weekend. We could have a lot of fun with that... *Chibis giggle insanely.*

Christine: Aw, dang... Hope Becca pulls through alright. Same goes for you...

DPH: Forget gargoyles? With a police station bombed, and a cathedral leveled with the ground? No go...

Niamhgold: That friend of yours sounds like she's got some disturbance - if not water, then SOME liquid should be consumed in vast quantities. Coffee and alcohol are not the prime choices as they have dehydrating effects, but juice or milk are good picks. Warps never drinks water voluntarily; he says fish do disgustingly physical things in it, and refuses to elaborate... He goes through several gallons of soft drinks, juice, milk and other such stuff each week, though.

Valentine: Warps' REALLY out of shape. We just forced him to look at your questions, and he couldn't even be bothered to make a pun out of it. *Chibis sigh.*

Green Baron: Warps just mentioned something about fuel costs in the 5$/gallon range in Norway. He says it may be more...

Well, it seems there's hope for our Provider, after all... He seemed to quicken a bit at the new Gargoyles episode. *Chibis debate in hasty whispers again.* Pity; it's only temporary...

Gside: Warps muttered something about having an excellent work relationship with several Hentai tentacles. We don't know. We don't WANT to know. We like that sword list, though - there's a lot we can use there. *Chibis giggle insanely once more* As for the outfit - we know! Rorschack, from Watchmen!

Well, we have to get back to driving Warps through his MS Certification class. *Chibis grab various implements of pain.* See you later.

Chibi-Talon, Chibi-Maggie and Chibi-Benjamin
Monday, January 15, 2001 02:57:28 AM
IP: ti21a68-0064.dialup.online.no

I knew t'would be worth staying up to catch Gside's post...
Gside><<I was given a used trenchcoat today.>> Congrats! As it happens, I got my old coat traded in for a new one that fits better... and we're probably gonna trade THAT one in, and so on 'till I get a perfect fit... : P ...By the way, why not just byuy one? They cost 'bout 20-30 bucks at a surplus store... <<Not quite, because given p->q, it does not necessarially follow that 'q->'p.>> Shhh! I know that, but t'was trying not to start the whole thing up again... <<The minigun image is broken.>> Just checked, and they all worked fine for me... o_O <<Can you guess which word I tried to get translated?>> Uh, "Chaste"? and I'm split between Jun and Kiyoraka. Gotta name my soon-to-be tentacle arm, y'see. *Drops V242A2 order form into the NP requisitions pouch*
<<bachiatari>> That'll do QUITE well... 8 ) ...needed a name for the Cursed Sword weapon in one of my mods. So it'd be "Bachiatari Kaitou", for example?

Mmm, Lain isn't around to annoy with pointless prattle, so hence to bed... And speaking of Lain, is it just me, or does Owen REALLY look like a cat? o_O


Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 15, 2001 02:54:47 AM
IP: 216-146-183-129.bwn.net

I was given a used trenchcoat today. It has no lining nor any inside pockets, and the belt buckle is broken, but who cares? All I need now is a fedora. And maybe a funky mask with a layer of cohesive black ink in a white soltution between trasparent fabric. Anyone know where this come from?

Gunjack> <<Am I acquitted, now?>>: Not quite, because given p->q, it does not necessarially follow that 'q->'p.

Warpmind> <<care to be a little less diligent?>>: And where would the fun be in that? And besides, it might anger James Birdsong, as I'd imagine we'd attract fewer hentai tentacles.

Christine> Well wishes for Becca.

DPH> <<power level scale that is used in the other RP>>: You mean used in Dragonball Z. They were only using the scale because they were (and probably will again in the future) channeling Toriyama.

Kyryn> Heal soon.

Selanit> I didn't see a load time in Communicator 4.7. And it seems to work well enough in lynx. I have no idea how you'd get it to recognize pop ups. And it does see the links to sub sites on intermediate pages.

Niamhgold> <<does this sound worrysome to anyone else>>: Yup. Though she might be short enough where it isn't really dangerous yet. Though anyone less than half my weight is probably in trouble. Plus, that water thing does not sound good at all.

Gunjack> <<clicky the name link for a look at two of 'em>>: The minigun image is broken.
<<What would the Japanese word be for the opposite of "Hentai" be?>>: From my resources, I'm thinking either kouga, jun, or kiyoraka. These are defined as, respectively, (an) refined/elegant/chaste, (an) pure/innocent/chaste, and (an) clean/pure/chaste. Can you guess which word I tried to get translated?
<<a Japanese phrase (better yet, several) approximating "Cursed Sword"?>>: Same source ( http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/jedi-inon ):
bachiatari: (a-no) damned/cursed/accursed
If you want to conjugate, you could use norou or tataru. And some nouns for a curse are noroi, jubaku, bachi, tsukimono, hyoukyo, and tatari.
subeta: (pt:) sword (pt: espada)
dosu: yakuza sword
ittou: a sword (blade)/a single stroke
nobegane: sheet metal/dagger/sword
kaitou: (literary) sharp sword
gitou: ceremonial sword
wazamono: sharp sword
guntou: saber/side arms/service sword
ken: sword/sabre/blade/bayonet/sting/clock hand
tsurugi: sword
kenji: sacred sword and jewels
kotou: old sword
sanjakunoshuusui: sharpened sword
shikomidzue: sword cane
morohanotsurugi: two-edged sword
yaiba: blade/sword
tachi: long sword
taitou: long sword
tantou: short sword/dagger/dirk
chokutou: straight sword
katana: sword/blade
tou: sword/saber/knife/engraving tool
tiuken: swords/cold steel
nihontou: Japanese sword
hyoujin: sharp, glistening sword
ryoubanoken: double-edged sword
wakizashi: short sword
Was that exhaustive enough?

Bronx> <<The island of Dr monrowe>>: That's Moreau.

Daniel Johnson> Heal well.
<<The CR clock is 30 minutes slow>>: When I post this, I believe it is 3:01:30

Welcome back, King Snarf.

Kyryn> Whoohoo.

Winterwolf> <<I have a bottle of H2O here! Just watch the explosive power of this stuff!>>: But the problem is that's already been boomed. You need to first separate the hyrdoren and oxygen, mix them in preparation for something to trigger a new boom.

Because they deserve it, the new mp3 is Amazing Grace by Ladysmith Black Mumbazo (with a little help from Paul Simon). Very nice a capella work here.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, January 15, 2001 02:31:29 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

**Winterwolf slides in**

Hey where'd all my posting time go the past two nights? Hmm

Tim Phipps> Hi Tim! Ouch, that sounds terrible! I apologize if I came off as annoying or even just implying that you haven't tried to talk to your parents. I think you'll do well on your own. Maybe someday your parents will see that. I hope they do. I also hope you get what you are looking for out of the Marines. Best of luck to you.

Doug> I can understand on some levels when someone has the best of intentions for you then in helping you repeatedly winds up saying or doing something that is upsetting. It's happened to me before and I know it will again. Sometimes even though their intentions are good I just find I need to just realize that no harm is meant from it and ignore it or just let it go. It can be very difficult especially with things you have very strong feelings about. Anyway I'll say a prayer that both of you can better understand each other and be closer. Now as for your recent good cheer with the party and respect you've gained I say Bravo. You are a great security officer and I'm happy to hear that more people are realizing that all the time. When you do become a police officer they will be very lucky to have you! One last bit, to the speedy capture of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Gside> <The boom gets much bigger if you have one part oxygen to two parts hydrogen> I just had to say this! Okay I have a bottle of H2O here! Just watch the explosive power of this stuff! ;D LOL

Shadowrider> No! I didn't get to comment or send email to you before you left. Oh well a letter will be on the way soon! Major congratulations on passing the training and becoming a Corporal!

Taleweaver> <fuels> That sounds great to me! Do you know if there have been any improvements in recharging time? To me, that seems to be one of the main problems you didn't comment on or address.

Sevarius Jr.> Welcome Back! <date a girl with fur as pretty> LOL! Yeah, the fur is a huge turn on in the wolf community! Just ask Archwolf! ;D

Archwolf> Hey, I'm glad things are going well for you with Aingeal! ^_^ Now if only there was an easy way to smooth over "dad" issues.

Gunjack> <Mech building> True enough. It seems half the weapons are worthless junk!

Mary> I wish you the best of luck with your new beau.

Katara> Welcome back! At least you are really using that DVD player! LOL! Seen anything god lately? ;)

Christine and Niamhgold> I'm sure Becca will be fine. At that age kids are nearly indestructible! ;) You know I also had that tooth thing happen! **True Story** I was walking down the street once with a craving for a slice of pizza. The block I was walking on had a Frat house and halfway down the block I was surrounded by five guys. They reeked of alcohol and started hitting me. The first couple of blows where strong but I just curled up in a ball on the floor and let them hit me for about a minute or two. After that they left. Maybe they thought I was unconscious. I got up dusted myself off and walked away. I found out later that my front tooth took a blow and was hanging. I spent a few days, as this happened Friday night, chewing food in ultra tiny bites using only my back teeth. There where no worries, in fact by the time I went to have it checked out it was already in place just loose. This happened in Albany btw. Good thing I'm in the Bronx now where it is safe. ;D

Niamhgold> Hi! It's always a pleasure when I see you Niamhgold! **huggles** ^_^ <friend and diet> Yes it sounds like your friend is going too far. Working out 5 days a week for an hour a day is fine IMO. Even if you happen to skip lunch it isn't the end of the world. That's provided you had a good breakfast. Even so that shouldn't happen all the time. Now salad is great but I get the impression from you that it is just a leafy green salad. You need more sustenance than that IMO. What really starts flashing warning signals is the water. Not drinking enough water is unhealthy and a really big cause for alarm. We need plenty of water to function. If she says drinking water tips the scale then it definitely sounds like she has an unhealthy compulsive desire to be thin and as it was already said thin doesn't mean healthy.

Green Baron and Lain> Let me borrow a phrase from Daphne for you two - Happiness! ^_^

Look! The new season is here! Woo hoo!

**BFTS RP - Casualties of battle**

**AD**
Need to lose weight? Want results fast? Try the starvation diet! You are guaranteed to loose weight. No need to consult your physician. This is the diet that works for everyone! If you follow the simple plan you'll see results in no time! Order now!
**END AD**

Winterwolf gasps for breath and falls to the floor.
Frost looks at Winterwolf slowly dying and understands.
Frosts picks up Winterwolf and moves to a portal filling the area with air.
Winterwolf coughs taking a deep breath and looks over at Frost.

NCA recovering from temporary blindness changes his approach once again.
NCA creates an army of rock to attack everyone.
While they are distracted by the constructs NCA uses his mastery over the element earth
He attacks by causing razor sharp spears to shoot out of the ground.
Jason works to stop this as the initial small shards slice through cutting him and others.
Frost sees a large pike ready to shoot out and skewer Winterwolf and knocks Winterwolf out of the way.
The stone pike tears through Frost instead.
Frost screams as he is impaled spraying blood everywhere.
The stone lance holds Frost's body up as he slowly dies.
Jason manages to block NCA from attacking with the rocky ground further.
The large army of stone warriors moves in to attack.
DPH is nowhere to be seen still gone after stepping through a portal earlier.
Jason has lost track of everyone else.
Winterwolf only sees Frost who has his eyes closed dying as the horde descends on him.

**END BFTS RP**

What has happened to Uriel and Plastique?
Will DPH return?
Is all hope lost?

Good night all! I'm caught up and now just need to read the new story but that waits for tomorrow.

**Winterwolf slides out**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@wildmail.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, January 15, 2001 01:38:23 AM
IP: 206.15.120.81

Now that's something I've been waiting to hear. Heading off to read it. I'll try to make a full post tomorrow complete with a full review of the latest story.

Christine: I'll try and get a full-length review to you as well since I just finished Bad Girls not two hours ago. :)

That's all for tonight. First some reading, then bed. Take care,


---Emambu

Emambu - [emambu@commandchamber.net]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Monday, January 15, 2001 01:13:23 AM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

***Kyryn steps into the room.***

Gentlebeings,

TGS now presents

Season 3 of Gargoyles

Waystation

Written by Allan Coleman Waltrip

And the show goes on...

***Kyryn steps aside to avoid the trampling mob.***

Kyryn - [<<--clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:39:50 AM
IP: denm1-14.iglobal.net

Matt> I hope what you're getting is more than just a print-out of the bible that's already online (at http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/gargbible.html). If you're really interested in how the series started, you should go read the original development file archive at "Ask Greg". He's been posting a lot on that topic.
Vashkoda - [vashkoda@hyperdawg.org]
Monday, January 15, 2001 12:12:42 AM
IP: dyn-118-016.res.aecom.yu.edu

Hey, all. I know it's been awile. What's going on?

I just finished Pendragon Season 3 today, & overall, I'd say I'm pleased. Though for next season, howzabout a story spotlighting everyone's favorite cabbie (well, mine at least), Kevin! Some villains who didn't live during Arthurian times would be nice, too. Maybe someone from the Robin Hood era?

And by the by, I just learned that I got the highest bid for the original Gargoyles Series Character Bible by Greg Weisman on e-bay. $100, plus shipping, but with my new job, I making more cash than before, & I want to indulge myself.
Plus, the seller has quite a reputable profile, so I think this is the genuine article. It'll be cool to see what Weisman had planned before anything got diluted for the networks. Besides, it'll look great next to my animation cel from Awakenings, Part One (best gift I ever got).

So, when's TGS Season 3 starting. I'm salivatin' here!

Matt "King Snarf" Maybray - [reginald_q_bumbershoot@hotmail.com]
Drexel Hill, PA, USA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:52:15 PM
IP: a030-0738.phl2.splitrock.net

"Pestilence"> **shuts off the CD player, smiling** Well, okay, I'll turn off the Garth Brooks...but only for you, and only for now. You just wait...there may come a day when I drag my 7 CD boxed collection in here...;)

Christine> Oo, ouch! I hope that Becca will be okay! Let us know how things go.

Green Baron> I have heard of the book by Luther ("Of the Jews and their Lies"), and it surprised me. Very interesting little-known tidbit about him.

Gunjack> The opposite of "Hentai?" Hm...you know, that's an extremely interesting question, now that I think about it. Wish I knew. :)

Well, see y'all around! Have fun!

Lady Corax
Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:23:16 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*** Begin Useless Information ***

Hey! The CR clock is 30 minutes slow!

*** End Useless Information ***

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:20:00 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

::sniff:: Waaaaaaaaah!! I'm sick AGAIN! I hate this. ::cough:: Once again I'm way behind in reading the CR, and I haven't felt like...well...doing much of anything for the past two days so I'm not likely to get caught up soon. I did have one comment to make:

Rodlox:
Depression and I are very old friends. The worst thing one can possibly do is keep those feelings bottled up. Believe me, I KNOW. Talking about it is one of the best things. Well, that and Prozac. And chocolate. Mustn't forget chocolate. Mmmm...

Need my sleep. Night all.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:17:29 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

RP WARNING!!
**Las Vegas, Nevada
Robert DeNiro and Joe Pesci are hitchhiking in a street corner (actually these are figures resembling them, not actually the two we now), when a limo picks stops by them. As the window rolls down, Al Pacino looks outside (again not the real Al Pacino) and motions them to come in. As DeNiro and Pesci enter the limousine, they also see a robed figure who's face is hidden, Attila the Hun, and Robert Duvall (again, not the real Duvall). Duvall lights a cigar and speaks.

"We know of your abilities in Vegas and Don Gatto wishes to recruit you. He has been recruiting us for something big, which we are unfamiliar with, as of now. The pay will be good and we wil simply require your normal skills to help us. Our next recruitment picks will be Armand Assante and Danny Aiello. Our first target is take out Warren Beatty, who will be in his Los Angeles mansion watching movies."

The robed figure then motions to Joe Pesci, "And don't forget your shoe shine box," and Pesci get sreally mad and starts bashing the robed figure with a baseball bat and then stabs and shoots him a few times, but no one does anything. The robed figure revives instantly and strangles Pesci a little, until he starts laughing and says, "he has spunk. He'll be the one to give Beatty the final shot."

Meanwhile in New Orleans, Attila and Socks are at their standoff. Attila leaps at Socks and slashes his tail, so Socks returns with a claw right to the cheek. They continue pouncing on each other, only causing mild damage, until Attila pulls out a switchblade and cuts Socks's throat. As Socks lays dying, he only says, "leave it to a Louisiana cat to bring a knie to a fist fight, and they liked Georg better."

Buddy and P-Nut are having a vicious fight, with fur and blood everywhere, until Attila aims his gun at Buddy and shoots him between the eyes. P-Nut's only response is "thanks, boss," and Attila says, "Anytime, dogbreath."**
END RP!!

Hello all

Winterwolf> I agree with you on subsidies. As a Libertarian, I am very anti-subsidy, and I support letting the free-market solve the problem. With the military subsidy for getting all this foreign oil, the pirce of gasoline shoudl be about 30% higher and that would definitely fuel more interest in alternative fuel, and we may see electric fuel stations for electric cars, or major changes in improving public transportation, and extending it into suburbs.

Tim> Good luck. I'm taking an easier spot as a Finance Specialist for the ARMY. Personally, I would advise you to merely wait until graduation so you can be a Marine Office, though I imagine you can get the rest of your degree while in the Marines, anyway.

Doug> It isn't Lain and Valentine *smirk*

Well, my step-brotehr will be moving to College Station after August, but I'll still visit Austin to see you and Kit. Could you give me some bus schedules, though, right before I come to Austin?

$I think Ashcroft fits Cromwell's mob more, but I will leave all my RP operations to you when I'm in the ARMY, so I trust your judgment.$

Lain> My dear, I'm just glad our respective religious veiws aren't causing any conflict. **smooches** I was Vogel and Christine has a picture as well as some other interesting pics of me :)

**kisses Lain and snuggels with her on the coach**

Christine> I do what I can ::hugs:: I have given her some websites, and she will have Gargoyles taking the streetcar eventually :) You know what I'm thinking when Kim told me that, huh? :)

Cat> It has been a while since I saw you. Poor Mecord. Hopefully you will be the favourite of all his wives ;)

Sevarius Jr.> I must admit you're reunion sounds really crappy. In fact, it is almost as bad as the raod trips to visit my grandparents in their retirement condo, followed by me sleeping on a foam mattress while I was there. Well, i did enjoy spending teh night with my godfather who owned a very nice estate on Southern Miami overlooking a lake. His ex-fiance later invited me to her chalet in Switzerland a few summers ago, too. I like them :)

I do admit that I am a city boy and you would definitely prefer New Orleans for a view of the South. Of course, my family is not at all like rednecks. We were teh ones who opppressed them a century ago :) My friend came down from Memphis for my graduation and he was a bit intimidated by hwo nice my father's apartment is, with all the silver to the pictures of dead ancestors. I took him to a Middle eatsern restaurant and he never ate lamb before. I imagine he may feel more at home in Augusta, though. You would enjoy New Orleans, though it is not DC.

I have soem cousins in Virginia who have a few old Confederate flags, but I am the great-great grandson Thomas M. Logan, the youngest General in the Confederacy, so its a bit different reason, plus my cousins all like Colin Powell :) They're essentially country club types, but not as wealthy.

I do admit they have a witchhunt after Ashcroft, though he made some harsh decisions and he has ties to Bob Jones, but I agree with what he said there, and I am very greatful that there are higher powers than the Federal Government, very greatful. I still wish Bush piced someone else, like Orrin Hatch or better, Frank Keating of Oklahoma. I think Ashcroft will sail through his Attorney General nomination and hopefully he won't shoot up families, deny sanctuary to six year olds, or set people on fire, like our current Attorney General.

Gunjack> Well, Luther's original followers were somewhat anti-semitic, since it was the 16th century. But it's not exactly a subjective issue. Luther worte a book called, Of the Jews and their Lies, which was very vehemently anti-semitic. Thsi is not menat to attack him, but I think more people should be aware of the fact. It's also no coinicdence that Kristallnacte was on Luther's birthday. I have one source to back it up as of now, though surprisingly I can't find that much about it on the net. I will look for more proof, though.

Xena Trek> Well, it's the least I can do for now ::hugs:: I will send more after I get my bonus. Hopefully, you'll get the money you need before too long.

Heather> ::big hugs:: I haven't seen you in ages. How have you been?

Tim and Rodlox> Sorry, but your founder did soem stuff taht wasn't too great. He also allied with the German princes which he had to do, but they used him, since Protestantism favors state over Church as a contrats to Catholicism, but Luther was rather cornered in his situation. As for followers always sharing the veiws of their founders, if Catholics were just like their founder, there'd have never been a Reformation or any major problems in European history.

Shadowrider> I missed you, again. A pity.

Christine> I certainly hope Becca can get her tooth situation fixed. She is braver than I would have been, and I think the permanent toth can be fully back in the mouth.

Niamhgold> Your friend needs to eat more. She's obsessed with losing weight and I think taht's too little.

Spore> I'll post to you next time I return

I am now being ousted form the computer room, so adios.



Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:40:03 PM
IP: adsl-78-220-248.msy.bellsouth.net

Hi All, It's been awhile hasnt it? Things have been somewhat busy around here. Hopefully after midterms I'll be able to read the CR more and lurk around in its corners..

Christine: Ow! Poor Becca, I hope that the dentist will be able to fix the tooth tomorrow. When I was younger I had a similar knockout.. I accidently collided into a friend while we played tag in the dark.(never tried that again..) My front teeth were knocked in slightly. Fortunetly, they were able to fix it. Good luck, and please let us know how shes doing.

GB: Hey you! It's been awhile since we've chatted.. I hope everything is going okay..


*Warning, small spoliers for the Emporers New Groove*
I went to go see this movie with my Mom today, and I was surprized when we left. For once, we both agreed that a flick was really great! My mom hasnt tagged along with me to go see a Disney movie in years. She was really glad to see this one. For one thing, some of the songs were sung by Tom Jones, and she loved the scenery. John Goodman does a really great job, as well as David Spade. The movie is hysterical, and at one point there is a homage to "The island of Dr monrowe" (can you guys see it?). Anyways, if your in the mood for a good laughs, go and see it!
**End small spoliers***

I also finally got to see the previews for Final Fantacy and Atlantis. All I Have to say is wow.... *in an awe voice*

Mary: Hey congrads! he sounds quite the catch =) Good for you, Im glad your happy

**Spoliers for The X-Files***
Well, after watching tonight's ep, my pining for Mulder has increased more. IMO, this episode really sucked. The concept of an all metal man, and if he was actually a machine tranformed from a man was interesting, but it lacked something that I cant quite place. The makeup in this episode impressed me, but thats about it.
I am enjoying the 180 spin that Scully has taken. It's kinda nice to see her trying out Mulder's shoes and coming up with answers that are other than scientific. Doggett's reactions to them just cracks me up. Cant wait for next month, supposedly Mulder is coming back. Oh I hope so!
**End The X-Files Spoilers**

Well thats about it for now, I will try to post again soon.

Bronx
Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:01:28 PM
IP: ac8ea856.ipt.aol.com

Just stopped by to add a little something about the Gargoyles Fight Club.

Who here would like to see a Demona/Angela vs Xena/Gabrielle? Come on you know you'd like to see it.

Later. It's getting really cold here!

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Sunday, January 14, 2001 09:38:04 PM
IP: apnc109.216.216.211.in-addr.arpa

STILL no time for catching up... Gee, ain't huge workloads fun?

Rodlox><<sadly, I'm too depresssed to RP right now...i'm too depressed to write...>> Dude, you ok? *realizes how
stupid that sounds* ...What's chewing on you? : ( <<though it's hard for me to understand you thinking misunderstandings are funny.>> Not all misunderstandings, just this one... 8 ) ...T'were a funny situation, that's all. <<Logic like that, I'm surprised Goliath hasn't gotten you to convert Demona to liking humans more. :)>> Thank yew, Thank yew... ; )

Tim - You asked what I did for a living awhile back. Well, I don't get paid, but I build weapon models for various Halflife mod projects in my (ample) free time... clicky the name link for a look at two of 'em. ^_^

...Gotta get back to work, but first two oddball questions for all the Useless Knowledge people in the room.
1 - What would the Japanese word be for the opposite of "Hentai" be?
2 - Can anybody give me a Japanese phrase (better yet, several) approximating "Cursed Sword"?
...Why are you all looking at me like that? o_O

Gunjack Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Sunday, January 14, 2001 09:00:18 PM
IP: 216-146-183-158.bwn.net

DPH - Actually, short of humanity being given a mass amnesia treatment (complete with the wiping of all news broadcasts of the gargoyles such as the destruction of the clock tower) I don't think that humanity forgetting about the existence of gargoyles now would even be possible.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, January 14, 2001 08:11:21 PM
IP: 216.87.46.156.dialup-stl.primary.net

Christine> argh! poor Becca!! =\ Mouth wounds bleed soooo much, huh? Anna once slipped from a chair and knocked her two bottom teeth straight thru her bottom lip. I thought she was going to bleed to death, but soon found out that it just seems that way when it's in the mouth.
Is the tooth still loose? I hope that there's not any root damage.
Keep us updated, ok?

I heard today that they are finally going to take the warning label off of saccharin. I would like to see it back into sugar-free products instead of nutra-sweet. That stuff makes me sick! I had to stop drinking diet Dr. Pepper when they put nutru-sweet in it.
The government finally recognized that the saccharin testing in the lab rats was ridiculous.... it would take a person to drink hundreds of diet soft drinks per day for many years to equal the testing they did on the rats. *rolls eyes*

Has anyone seen the new Ultimate X-Men comics yet?

Jannie
Sunday, January 14, 2001 08:07:24 PM
IP: 209-83-228-167.hou.port.mytelco.com

Chibi-Pestilence glides into the CR, alighting someplace high enough to be heard.

Okay, I'm having to handle the post today, 'cause Aaron saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon yesterday, and his mind is still blown. Death would be doing this, but he had a PTSD attack or something watching it, so I'm stuck with it.

Mara> Forget it. Aaron's not only rhythm deficeit, but he's clumsy too. So please, try to get him to dance. I could use ten grand.

SJ> Welcome back, sorry your Xmas sucked, please tell me the dread one isn't really going to Zaphod. Oh well, could be worse, it could be Adam Sandler.

Gside><<So, just what prompted you to check this out?>> (Pest gestures at Mara) Oh take a guess. Yes, you're right, the Eva manga did come second. And Aaron knows next-to-nada about computers or programming, so he has no idea how hard a given idea could be.

Lady Corax> Pleeeeeeeeeze, no more. Since his 11th comp teacher played it every day, on loop, the whole class, Aaron, and all the inhabitants of his head have had a major aversion to Garth Brooks.

Hi Heather, Katara.

Christine> Sorry about Becca, hope she's better soon. And I know I know that quote, but all I can come up with is Mulan, which I know isn't right. Grrrr.

Niamhgold> Yes that does sound unhealthy. Even moreso then Aaron's usual diet. (Aaron's proof that you can live on caffine and pringals)

Well, as long as I'm here. If there're any chick who'd like to do me, I'll be backstage. Thank you and drive thru.




Pestilence - [Sexgod@Nightstone.com]
New York, New York, New York
Sunday, January 14, 2001 07:12:50 PM
IP: pppa87-resalesanantonio4-2r7182.dialinx.net

Niamhgold>> I dunno, I am 5'4" and weigh 105 lbs, but I eat like a horse and work out daily. Your friend may have an eating disorder if she is compromising her health (i.e. not drinking enough water) in order to stay skinny. Staying skinny isn't nearly as important as being a healthy weight, which is basically whatever weight you are when you eat healthy, drink lots of water, and excercize regularly. Best of luck to you and her both at working her problem out!
Spore - [belleria@hotmail.com]
Camarillo (home of the state mental institute), CA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 05:24:13 PM
IP: lsanca1-ar8-186-032.dsl.gtei.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Hey, all! Just wanted to check in before I head back to school in the mornin' :)/:( I think I'm gonna miss the fam, but I've been missing my friends, too, so it's a difficult call. At least my parents will be making the long trip for parents weekend, though! (BTW, go Ravens!!!!)

Christine: Uck, poor Becka! I did the same type of thing myself, once; I was running back and forth on the slippery floor of our living room, the door to the slightly-descended sunroom was open, I couldn't stop in time and ended up flying and bashing four of my front teeth (top and bottom) out. But after my dad stopped making those ambulance noises, I was fine and liked the fact I got to miss three extra days of school because of it ;) Oh, and my teeth are perfectly fine today, too, nothing a little kid can't handle! (At least she's at the age where _everything_ heals quickly :)

Shadowrider: GAck! I hope I'm catching you in time...just read my email, have a good one and talk to ya later! ** Huggles! **

Random question: Okay, I recently got into a discussion with some of my friends about one friend who has lost ten pounds in the past four weeks, from her already-very-skinny weight. She's something like 5'3" or 5'4" or something; she weighed 105 but now weighs 95, and keeps working out at least an hour a day for at least five days a week. Additionally, she doesn't seem to be eating lunch, very little (salads) for dinner, and maybe a bowl of cereal for breakfast...does this sound worrysome to anyone else, or am I just being worried for her for nothing? I don't think she's been drinking enough water, 'cause she says it "makes the scale tip upwards"...I think that's at the borderline of an unhealthy diet, what do you think?

Adios!

Niamhgold
Sunday, January 14, 2001 04:52:04 PM
IP: lac-flex112.ncia.net

Hey, all!

It's been a long time since I posted, being a sort of an on-again-off-again poster. <looks over posts> Hmm . . . looks like we've got a nice little argument going on here, misunderstandings all round. I think I'll stay out of it.

Hey, I've got a favor to ask of you folks. I'm working on a web page for my domain, and I want to test it in as many different browsers as possible. I've looked at it in IE 5 and Netscape 4.08. Strangely, IE does not seem to be pre-loading the mouseover images right. There is a perceptible delay between when you move your mouse over a link and when the picture changes, during which time it has to download the new file. It's driving me nuts, because I wrote JavaScript to preload the images precisely so that wouldn't happen. Grr.

Anyway, I'd appreciate feedback regarding my site, which can be found at www.atuan.com (or you can click my name. :-) Please note that the site is not done, and lots of the links lead to place-holder pages at this point. The main page describes what each section will be about. Also, I'm willing to bet that the site will basically be incomprehensible to version 3 and lower browsers.

Um. Let's see. In other news, I got 3 As and two Bs on my last report card, which is actually a bit better than I was expecting. I totally aced my Egyptian hieroglyphs class, which was tough but worth the effort. Winter break was the worst on record. I'm now back at university.

This term, yet more Latin and another course in Anglo-Saxon. Plus some "unofficial" study of Middle English with one of my favorite professors.

Question: Does anyone know anything about when TGS Season 3 will begin? The TGS page says they're "on hiatus." Is that a hiatus of indefinite length, or does Season 3 have a definite start date? Btw, I haven't been reading here too much recently, so if somebody asked this last week or something, sorry for the duplication.

Ta!

Selanit - [selanit@hotmail.com]
Sunday, January 14, 2001 04:47:28 PM
IP: smit18-103-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu

***The vidscreen comes on and shows Kyryn hacking and coughing. She waves hello to everyone in the CR***

Hey, folks. I've got one version of the crud that's going around, apparently the stuffed-head draining and congesting chest version.

On the good news front: Okami just gave me my Christmas present -- a Sony DVD player! He had it on layaway and we went and picked it up yesterday.

Christine> Try to make sure that Becca doesn't wiggle the tooth. If you have some beeswax in the house (or orthodontic wax) you may want to put some across the front and back of the tooth and the two front teeth on either side to help hold it in place. I hope that you will be able to see a dentist tomorrow. Hopefully the tooth is just loose in the socket since that is the easiest thing to heal.

Sevarius, Jr.> Good to see you back, and I'm glad you survived your Christmas.

Later All. I'm off to drink more echinacea tea and curl up and watch Dark Crystal and Labyrinth on DVD.

***The vidscreen fades as the sound of Kyryn's coughing and hacking echoes through the room.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Sunday, January 14, 2001 04:10:10 PM
IP: denm1-45.iglobal.net

Christine>> There, there..... *offers comforting and highly spiked hot chocolate* ...welcome to the wonderful world of pediatric dental disasters. If you can keep her quiet and keep the swelling down, chances are the tooth will be okay. I've been through this with my hockey-playing son and it's nerve-wracking.

Tick movie>> Yeah, they ran a story on this on http://www.comicscontinuum.com/ a few weeks back. The guy who doing the voice of Buzz Lightyear (new cartoon) is playing the Tick. Looked pretty funny!

Spoon!

Spike
Sunday, January 14, 2001 03:58:31 PM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-253.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Ok, a couple of quick questions I forgot to ask.

Ok, I know this is pretty old issue so I expect only a direct answer without comment: where on the power level scale that is used in the other RP, is the lord of the 3rd race?

Now, a gargoyle question: aside from the influence of the Unseelie Court, how would the existance of gargoyles be removed from today's society? In better words, how would Gargoyles be forgotten without the influence of the Unseelie Court?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 03:53:32 PM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

Oh lordy ... Becca fell yesterday and bashed her mouth, bled like hell, one front tooth (a permanent one, of course) is all sicky-wobbly-loosey-goosey, and it's not only a weekend but a frickin-ding-blast HOLIDAY weekend ... found one dentist whose recorded message says they'll be open on Monday, so hopefully ... but dammit ... poor kid! Soft food and she's been biting on a washcloth ever since because it helps the pain (and is probably keeping the &^%$^#@$ tooth in). But she's coping, we're all coping, important thing was not to panic her though when she saw the look on my face when _I_ got my first good gander into her mouth ...

Not only that but both the heater and the dryer at the old house (which we're renting out) died, so Tim is scrambling around trying to take care of that. "Did I desecrate a SHRINE or something?" (pff, hah, bet no one can identify _that_ quote).

Anyway ...

The Tick on FOX > anyone know anything about this? Saw a commercial for it today; I'd heard movie-rumors but nothing about a series.

Forgot what else I was gonna say ...

Christine - [< --- little update]
Sunday, January 14, 2001 03:41:07 PM
IP: 02-074.075.popsite.net

Ok, Winterwolf was #10. I was just trying to figure it out who was the last in the top 10.

Despite having around 11 hours of sleep, I was still sleepy when I got up. That's all for now.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 03:40:29 PM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

Moving away. See in a few weeks, I think. Take care everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:27:36 PM
IP: h217-168-189.mi2.albacom.net

*enters*

Yeah, the guy is like the Lochness Monster. You hear about a creature that supposedly exists, but you never seen one. And I got one!!! :) He's 20, goes to Sonoma State (same school I'm going to attend in the fall!!! Isn't that cool?). He was on the Varsity cross country team in High school, though he only ran for the fun of it, not to win. And I've seen pictures of him and he is a damn hottie!!! AND he's in pre-med!!! AND he's an active member in the anime club in college!!! On top of all that, he is totally fascinated with me!!! I think I've died and gone to heaven!!!!!!!! AND we're going to meet after I'm done with finals!!! WHOOHOOOOO!!!!!!! ^_^ *begins bouncing off the walls like a crazy person* Me so happy!!! :)

Mary Flanders
Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:23:00 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*Warpmind enters, whistling "La Bella Notte" (or at least that's what it sounds like he's trying to do...)*
Ahh... I'm just in a general good mood lately... :)

Lynati: It's happening; you're invading my dreams on a regular basis. I'm not complaining, though - if I ever do, I've enlisted three strong friends to smite me on the forehead with a blunt object. :)

Gside: I know, I know... care to be a little less diligent? ;)

Hmmm... I suddenly realized something... This situation with me and Lynati... *Blink* The world's going to end on June 21st, I'm sure... *Runs off to burn all red shirts.*

Gunjack Valentine: You'll hurt me, you say? *Smirk* Go ahead and try; I've got a vast plethora left to spare. ]:)

Lynati: *Whine* Until Monday? Noooo... *sniffle* Oh, well, I'll always have my dreams... :)

Well, that about concludes my post... Later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:49:08 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

Just a few lines...

Niamhgold:> Check your email!

Doug & Coyote:> Thanks for the congrats!

David G.:> <007 being an immortal> Hey, I had never thought about it...but it is nteresting...I remember once I was discussing the topic with a friend, and we came to the conclusion that the one of James Bond is just a false identity, used to identify different agents from time to time. Basically, the best MI5 agent in service is conventionally attibuted the identity of James Bond, and the id code of 007, and he keeps them as long as he doesn't retreat from service (or, naturally, gets killed...). When it happens, another agent is selected to take his place. Ok, it is a banal explanation, but it would explain why, while those around him are always the same persons, just older and older, 007 changes his face from time to time...;)

See later for goodbye!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:38:05 AM
IP: h217-168-214.mi2.albacom.net


sadly, I'm too depresssed to RP right now...i'm too depressed to write - but I do owe three replies.

**BEGIN APOLOGY WHICH WILL LIKELY LAST ETERNITY -- if not longer:

Gunjack V.: thanks for the forgiveness. though it's hard for me to understand you thinking misunderstandings are funny. {then again, misunderstandings always used to get me beaten up}.

Tim: You're right, I jumped the gun; I recognize what you're saying about you not taking offense - but I'm a Lutheran with a LOT of Jewish blood in me {so it kinda hit a little too close to home}.

Anonymous: <Lemme add the conclusion on to the end of my statement... "So if Lutherans AREN'T anti-semetic (which they aren't, to my understanding), then it stands to reason that Luther wasn't, either." ...Am I acquitted, now?> Logic like that, I'm surprised Goliath hasn't gotten you to convert Demona to liking humans more. :) {that was a compliment}.
**END APOLOGY - FOR NOW.

Rodlox
Sunday, January 14, 2001 02:33:31 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Gah! T'was trying to say they WEREN'T anti-semites! Were not! I don't believe they hate Jews! No relation to Hitler! None! And t'wasn't a hypothetical question, it was a logical proof in their favor! : P
Actually, I find all this HIGHLY amusing. Being misunderstood is funny... 8 ) ...And on that note, I crawl to bed.

Peace!

Gunjack Valentine
Sunday, January 14, 2001 02:11:16 AM
IP: 216-146-184-223.bwn.net

Rodlox re. Gunjacks comment: <<I think you're also not being very generous to those of us who are Lutheran or Prodestant(sp?). >> Calm down, it was a hypothetical question. I certainly wasn't offended as a protestant Luthern. Don't be offened by something that wasn't really there. It's not good to let PC and oversensitivity to get in the way of intellectualism.

In other news...

I've thinking about this fan-film idea. Maybe I post a question on "Ask Greg" about the legality. I read a post on that site regarding a fan made computer game. I guess it's okay to do this sort of thing as long as yur not making it for a profit.

If we did do this, we'd only be able to do a couple of gargoyle characters that would be easy and cheaper to do, such as Demona and Angela. So instead of having a story that centered on the gargoyles, we could have a story about the world that the clan lives in. A have an uncle, well, a brother-in-law of my aunt, who was a CGI animator of STUART LITTLE.

Of course I'd have to be the Writer-Director becuase, well, frankly I don't trust the rest of you. ; )

Tim
Sunday, January 14, 2001 02:03:51 AM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Rodlox re. Gunjacks comment: <<I think you're also not being very generous to those of us who are Lutheran or Prodestant(sp?). >> Calm down, it was a hypothetical question. I certainly wasn't offended as a protestant Luthern. Don't be offened by something that wasn't really there. It's not good to let PC and oversensitivity to get in the way of intellectualism.

In other news...

I've thinking about this fan-film idea. Maybe I post a question on "Ask Greg" about the legality. I read a post on that site regarding a fan made computer game. I guess it's okay to do this sort of thing as long as yur not making it for a profit.

If we did do this, we'd only be able to do a couple of gargoyle characters that would be easy and cheaper to do, such as Demona and Angela. So instead of having a story that centered on the gargoyles, we could have a story about the world that the clan lives in. A have an uncle, well, a brother-in-law of my aunt, who was a CGI animator of STUART LITTLE.

Of course I'd have to be the Writer-Director becuase, well, frankly I don't trust the rest of you. ; )
Anonymous
Sunday, January 14, 2001 02:03:31 AM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

*Kat briefly pops into the CR*

Greetings everyone! Hope everyone enjoyed their holidays. (That's how long it's been since I was last in here..OY!) I've finally been able to pry myself from the cluthes of two of the most devious and diabolical things to come along in a millenium... a new DVD player, and the Blockbuster 30 movies for 30 days. I won a player in the raffle at work on New Year's Eve, and have been spending WAAAAAAAY to many hours with the remote glued to my hand. :) I'll review the archives and then get back to any comments I feel like making. Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm still breathing.

Oh yeah, who else is excited about the latest announcement for guests at G'01? Can you believe it? Jeff Bennett! *drools* When they announce Keith David and/or Clancy Brown, I'll be slobbering for a week. LOL

Anyways, I'm outa here for now, gotta work tomorrow. Hugs for everyone! :)

Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Sunday, January 14, 2001 01:34:11 AM
IP: ac84259a.ipt.aol.com

Hmm does this count as in the top ten? Hmm...
Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:13:54 AM
IP: 206.15.120.77

Jannie: Unfortunately they showed a repeat episode of The District in our part of the world tonight. A good one, but still a repeat. :( Kit and I enjoyed last week's new episode very much for all the reasons you mentioned. Hopefully we'll see the next new one here next Saturday. <fingers crossed>

Mary: Congratulations! I knew you'd be happy again soon. :)

<waves to Heather> Please tell Robby Kit & I are among the many who hope that he gets his CR access back soon. DC is in for a serious beating. <snaps his fingers at four very large men in dark suits who grab the whining electronic demon and start to administer it>

Shadowrider: Congrats on the promotion. Knew you'd get it. :)

That's all for now, more later in the week.

Doug
Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:10:33 AM
IP: pool-63.52.129.161.dlls.grid.net

Rodlox - Lemme add the conclusion on to the end of my statement... "So if Lutherans AREN'T anti-semetic (which they aren't, to my understanding), then it stands to reason that Luther wasn't, either." ...Am I acquitted, now?
Anonymous
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:50:18 PM
IP: 216-146-184-223.bwn.net

Top Ten! Better be, at least ...

**dances with Lady Corax some more**



BTW: nice to see ya 'round these parts, Heather! :)

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:49:53 PM
IP: 216.28.101.88


Luther: <Uh, actually, I was saying that I didn't believe Martin Luther OR Lutherans in general were anti-semites... o_O ...Or I *thought* that's what I said... didn't I? *massages headache*> Your exact words were: <If the founder of a relidious group were anti-semetic, wouldn't it stand to reason that his followers would be too?>

but, since you have a headache, I'll excuse you.


Rodlox
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:40:14 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

7th!!!
Mary (again)
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:39:10 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*enters*

Hey people. Well, I've done my grieving over my ended relationship with Bahemut. You know the old saying, right? If you get knocked off a horse, you have to get right back on it. Or shoot it as Quinn Morgandorfer would put it. ;P Now I know this is risky considering how...'delicious' girls in my age group are, but I put an ad in the Classifides. I just want to be involved with someone who's right for me. Ya know? What I wanted was a handsome athletic guy, who was nice and loves anime. And who could go running with me. In my town, that's like saying you want to find the Lochness Monster or Bigfoot. Well guess what kitties: I found the Lochness Monster, and he lives in Modesto. ^_^

I probably sound like I'm moving too quickly, right? Or that I wasn't too interested in Bahemut. I cared about Bah-chan, but the relationship would never have worked. Even if we had stayed together, he wouldn't have moved out here. He planned to move to Arizona and we would still have an Internet relationship. I just didn't want that. I did my grieving, and I moved on. Bahemut just wasn't the right match for me.

Thanks guys for lending me your support. I'm glad I have such good friends to talk to. :)

And yes, InuYasha is written by the creator of Ranma 1/2. :) YAY TAKAHASHI-SAMA!!!

Mary Flanders
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:38:38 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

6th.
Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:38:00 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com


FOURTH...perhspa FIFTH!!!


RODLOX
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:36:15 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

MWA HA HA!!!!!!!
lain
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:36:00 PM
IP: ttya03.ptbo.igs.net

*walks in in a late English Victorian dress* I just finished watching Anna and the King so sue me.

*clears throat* Here is what Robby, my love, has to say...
I am unable to post because for some reason, none of mine computers will let me into the CR's, and its been this way since last week.

*bows and leaves with rose peddles falling on her*

Heather - [kheetor84@aol.com]
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:29:39 PM
IP: ac9effdc.ipt.aol.com

Second!?

Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:28:51 PM
IP: 216-146-184-223.bwn.net

First!!!! (maybe)
Doug & Kit
Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:28:26 PM
IP: pool-63.52.129.161.dlls.grid.net