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Kirshanta: (on Demona, circa 974-994) All your points are reasonable, but as you say she let those negative feelings gnaw at her. And now she’s a thousand years older. Talk about the mother of ‘set-in-her-ways’.

Of course, at the time of the Wyvern massacre, she intended that they come to no harm. But she was very aware of that possibility. Hence, she tried (albeit failed) to get the gargoyles away from the castle, and herself hid.

In ‘CITY OF STONE’ PART FOUR, as you say she had more or less recovered her sanity despite paranoia enough to listen in on Macbeth. But if you look at what it took to get them that way: seventeen years, a magical alliance, and the return of her youth. Those are big things that directly ensure alliance. Still, your conclusions up to 1996 were right. I think it ought to be stressed what a low point that was – such an enormous plan, and the only time where she could possibly have had the resources to do it. And it failed.

So anyway, Demona was left with a ‘change or you don’t have a daughter’ scenario. Thing is, she’d already assumed that: in ‘THE RECKONING’ she took three months trying to bring Angela around to her point of view. Ultimately, she let Angela be captured with the rest. She made her decision. Angela is still important to her, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that the threat in, say, ‘PERCHANCE TO DREAM’ would have unnerved her. But to suggest that not all humans are bad, implies both that she was wrong.

You’re listing what’s changed, but the point is that SO much has changed. 3 years is less than half a percent of her lifespan. The day in the human world thing – disregarding the fact that as a plot device I think was premature in the extreme – should to my mind have proved nothing. She knows the human state of mind, but she also knows all the times in Wyvern and Moray where she proved herself and protected the clan. It’s a completely different kettle of fish. Basically, I can’t see the effectiveness of the parallel.

But why should she still be agreeing with Angela? This is all wrong to me. Demona is over a thousand years old; but she’s acting as though some kid that’s spent only four years in the real world with a naïve pillock whose inability to strike against humans a thousand years ago played a helping role in the massacre. That would be something like her mindset anyway. First of all, if Demona believes – as ‘HUNTER’S MOON’ ought to have proved – that humans prove a massive threat to Angela, why should she change her goals of destroying them? In fact, surely this would INCREASE her determination? Look at how Demona’s reaction in other such circumstances: fleeing the Wyvern massacre, she assumed Goliath would forgive her in the long-term. When held in the Labyrinth, she assumed that she could turn Angela to her way of thinking.

Regarding Madoc, I was very disappointed. Maddox showed so much promise, so much poignancy and depth. ‘REPRISALS’ was beautiful, the end of part two especially. But then that all went out of the window and Madoc was the big bad caped guy strutting out ranting out revenge plans, plotting evil twins, making all the fair-weather-evildoers like Umbriel and the Banshee a bit nervous before getting killed by a dratted flaw in his massive Machiavellian scheme.

Todd: Interesting with the mausoleum. Will it be used again?

Matt: Interesting comments on villains. I think Harthoth, Lancelot and Morgana break this role though. And Dracon and Thailog have great promise as potential antagonists.

Greg: Well firstly, Madoc and Hitler seem ideologically identical although I guess the species difference makes Madoc’s position a little less ostracised from common sense. Now, I can understand the difference but ‘evil’ and ‘pure evil’ seems to be the fundamental distinction. Fact is, Hitler did stuff that was evil. (Roosevelt, Churchill et al ordered stuff on similar scale – in America, to the Issei and Nissei and in Britain to Jews and racial minorities). I don’t think evil needs qualifying in this sense, so whether you stick pure in front or not is pretty irrelevant. But whether Hitler – a person – was evil… well albeit on a subjective scale taken by most humans, yes. Pure evil? That would imply that every little thing was totally evil. And quite apart from the fact that evil is too abstract, to subjective a concept to even be penned in like this the very fact that he BELIEVED in what he was doing (however screwed it was by EVERYBODY ELSE’S standards) makes him – to my mind – an evil-doer but not pure evil of himself. That the act itself is to my knowledge the most evil act of its scale in the twentieth century doesn’t mean that the person is PURELY evil. At least he seemed to think that at the end of the day, he was doing something good for Germany by destroying the ‘destroyers of culture’. Unlike even, somebody like Stalin it seems who just seemed to kill simply because he could. Doesn’t that scrap of faith in his motive preclude complete purity of evil straight out? Which isn’t of course to say, that by practically all ‘reasonable’ judgements of good and evil he’s further around the evil side than most if not all people one could name.

In lots of respects, I think it’s very dangerous to suggest that Hitler did what he did ‘because he was pure evil’. Because this kind of mindset has developed in many different states throughout time and throughout the world. People need to know that a perfectly, in many ways EXTREMELY democratic state like the Weimar Republic, can give rise to mass bigotry and genocide – evil, if you will – without it showing any of the founding characteristics we might associate with evil. Just because Hitler did it more effectively than others doesn't make him any different in nature than, say, the KKK. Rafts of ordinary people.

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Saturday, February 3, 2001 03:26:20 PM
IP: ac9d25fa.ipt.aol.com

well.. I just did my vote and.. well.. I have no idea if it went through or not.. but I pushed the button a few times and.. well.. if I submitted nine zillion votes then.. I am very sorry and if I submitted no votes then.. I will go cry :(
lain
Saturday, February 3, 2001 03:18:39 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Gside: <I think It'd be rather dangerous to allow html posts>
Yeah. The < shows up looking like <
Damn coding! :)
But I *thought* I had a work around. Oh well.

SJ: <Hell, Mystique and Destiny had a much more developed and interesting same-sex relationship.>
I have GOT to read more comic books!
Hmm... given Mystique's "Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime" personality, it dosn't really surprise me.
She's had kids with, who, Sabertooth, Magneto, and who else?

Emambu: <Maybe you can drop off a few face-huggers at the place>
Should I allow my children to have more fun than I?
I suppose there is always the hive mind, but there is nothing more rewarding that the feeling of people you dislike squishing between your own teeth.
Do you know what I mean?

My children are many.
They live and feed off of the living.
They can take over entire planets, taking what was once living and making it of themselves.
Can I allow this?
Should I stop them?
Do I destroy my children, or allow them to flourish, trading one species for another?
What is a parent to do?

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, February 3, 2001 12:03:31 PM
IP: pppa8-resaledetroit3-2r7229.dialinx.net

Gside>> so.. you want to know where Gunjack has been, eh?? *grins a very twisted grin* I bet you do, by friend.. but after I told you, I bet you wouldn't want to know... ;)

yes yes, it is AAAAALL my fault... but there is gonna be one KICK @$$ fic come out of it, methinks...

lain
Saturday, February 3, 2001 11:38:04 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

if = is (slices typo demon and has brunch party with the tentacles)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, February 3, 2001 09:06:32 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-86.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Emambu> All if forgiven (blink blink. hops into the pit) ^_^
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Saturday, February 3, 2001 09:05:50 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-86.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

*Emambu strolls in, noticing that the CR has increased slightly since he last saw it*

Well, I had fun out in the moutains with my choir. We initiated the new guys, taught them the staple songs, and gave them their nicknames. >:) I just enjoyed because this time I was not on the receiving end. Plus we got to hear stirring speeches by our officers, like our business manager who pulled a George Dubbya for about two full minutes. You know, that deer-in-the-headlights look. Plus, there was 18 inches of fresh snow on the ground (sorry Winterwolf, maybe you can sneak aboard next year), providing hours of amusement. :)

*grin* So much for posting after the Super Bowl. Turns out I had much more pressing matters regarding school work and my website. Both of those have kept me busy these last few days. Fortunately, the amount of work didn't come without perks. As of right now (and it won't last so I'm cherishing it while I still have it) I have a 4.0 this semester. I aced every single test and paper in all my classes thus far. My website is still up and running too. We're in the process of transfering everything over to the new server. This means I'll have to organize my reviews *shudder* Once that's complete will move on and decide what we should do about UGO who have been in breach of contract since November. *shrugs* My guess is nothing, but we'll see.

Also this week, I was promoted into a top position of the choir. I attend meeting, organize the minutes, write up our semester constitution, take attendance during rehersals, and generally write down everything. Essentially: I'm a secretary. Fear me for I am a secretary, AHAHAHAHAHA!! Ok, I've had my fun.

As for the super bowl: I knew the Ravens were going to win, and I was right... so there! :) The first half reminded me of trench warfare. Each side was giving up only a few yards at a time. It says something about the superiority of both defenses when you break the superbowl record for most punts. Too bad the giants couldn't keep up that same level of intensity in the second half. *shrugs* Oh well, I was entertained at least.

Just out of curiosity, if DunlaoX's return is the first sign of the apocalyspe, then would the Super Bowl Halftime show be the second sign? I mean, I sat there watching N'Sync and Aerosmith *cough*sellouts*cough* perform together while thinking to myself, "The only that could make this worse is if Britany Spears shows up." Right on cue, she appears. Simply horrible.

Well by now you're probably sick of me typing about nothing so I'll move on to personal replies. :)

Gside: (old news BTW) Just out of curiosity, how can major in computer science without a skillful knowledge of the various prgramming languages? That's almost like majoring in English composition without ever reading a book. :) As for your comments about dimensions of the monolith: ... In other words, you lost me. I feel like the remedial student on College Jeopardy. :) Just out of curiosity, what is woaltise a combination of? BTW, yes I am working on a fanfic, emphasis on the word "working." I consider myself fortunate if I can put in a half an hour a week. The good thing is that this weekend I'll have some time. Glad to hear your birthday, overall, went well. Is your mom still looking into colleges? I think my mom wants to go back too and get her degree. Hmmm... Penn and Teller, eh? Those guys are great. :) I saw one of their specials on Comedy Central about two weeks ago. Lastly, yes Winterwood was the song. Thank you for putting it up.

Aaron: Nope, the company's called NURV. I've never seen Evangelion but I'm going to guess that the evil coporation in the show is called NURV too. Was I close? BTW, unless the three hours of sleep this week have impaired my ability to think (and why would it do that?) then you would be the basketball fan around here, right? If so, can you explain to me why the Sixers seem to have so much trouble with .500 teams. I mean, they trounce the terrible ones, and they hold their own against the top teams like the Blazers, Spurs, Jazz, Knicks, Suns, Kings, etc. However, they've lost to Toronto twice now, and I just watched them fall to Orlando. Yeesh! They barely squeeked by Houston and Indiana also. Maybe when Eric Snow comes back...

Warpmind: Righto... cold, hard, and brutal reviews are ok. However, speculations about your love interest = physical and/or emotional trauma, ala whatever happenes to Gunjack. Works for me. :) *whispers to Gunjack and hands him more money to add to the betting pool. Looks up to see Warpmind glaring at him* What? :)

Firestorm: Ugh, sorry to hear that. *gibs DC in retaliation* Maybe you can drop off a few face-huggers at the place. I'm sure they'll add the chaos. :) Oh and I plan on voting right after I finish this post.

James Birdsong: Woops, didn't mean to sound like I was berating you. Like I said, it was only an opinion, not an attack *drops off a few insta-tentacles into the pit as a show of apology and a sign of peace*

Lynati: Loved that nifty variation on the Gargoyles theme. Very clever. :)

Green Baron: I know you won't see this but... Safe voyage my friend.

Christine: Not a problem. I'm just sorry that it wasn't a very long review. Heck, I never analyzed or even got into the possible metaphors behind the time they spent on that planet, or of Hippolyta's rant on why humans are so bashful when it comes to sex, especially in America. I guess that's what you get though when your country is founded by Puritans. :) Ooh, new pics and stories at your site. Must go read.

Juliaexia: I know this this has already been said to you several time, but welcome to the CR! *grins and waves* BTW, do you know when The Tick comes back on? I want to catch it. I was a fan of the cartoons show too. :) SPOOON!!

DPH: Happy birthday!! You had me fooled the whole time. ;) Hope it's a special day for you.

Blue Caeru: Good to hear from you (rhym unintended). Hope you stop by again soon.

Daniel Johnson: I cannot even begin to empathize with you. The only thing I've had was when my parents went away on a medical convention for a week and I had to take care of my grandmother who had a broken ankle. Well, after a few days she got fed up with the fact that I was constantly watching her and asked me if had anything better to do. When I told her no, she suggested that I give myself something to do and go shoot myself. I know now that she didn't mean, though at the time I came close to tears for that (I was also a lot younger). I think she was just angry at herslf for being helpless and relying on someone to wait on her. Your mother might be feeling the same way. In her heart, I'm sure that she is grateful for everything that you have done. I hope that can be as good a son as you have been when my mother grows older. It could just be an inability to deal with her own anger. It could just be medication. Whatever it is, I don't think that she meant what she said, not after everything you've done for her. Please don't lose heart.

Gunjack: yeah, we were caught in the meltdown, but we seem to have pulled our way back out of it. The server move is taking place right now. We're not completely out of the woods, but let's just say we're on the fringe, and we found a map and compass. :) Yes, please send me any new pics that you have. I'd love to take a look at them and offer helpful comments. :) BTW, it turns out Wilek's not such a bad guy after all. All that effort I went through too... :) Guess you get to keep your job. You know, it's kind of weird. After reading your apology last week, I suddenly found the urge to go read naughty garg fics. I'm not sure how that happened. Maybe I should be like the guys in "They Live" and look for the subliminal messages. :)

Dreamie: yeah, we weren't the only ones that UGO was screwing over. Fortnuately, things are working themselves out. After the server move, everything should, hopefully, return to normal. Also, busy is busy is busy. It comes in all shapes and sizes. I hope that you get through it so we can hear from you again soon. Hmmm... never saw 2010, I presume (of course, we didn't attach rockets on the monolith in the movie but you get the picture). :)

Guandalug la'Fay: As a hopeful soon-to-be fanfic writer, I'd also like to commend you on the wonderful job you have been doing so far. I'm sure the finished produt will be more then worth the wait.

Caliope: *grins* Well, I'm 18. I turn 19 on May 11. I always thought you were a year younger then me. Maybe not. As far as I'm concerned I'm no good at guessing ages over the internet. For example, I had no idea Spacebabie was 24. :)

Brooklyn: Work-load has lightened for the weekend *cheers* so expect comments for your latest story soon. POssibly tomorrow after I get some sleep and clean out the library. :)

Spike: Congratulations again on "Despair and Deliverance." I finally got a credit card this week *joy* which means I'll actually be able to buy a copy as soon as it comes out rather then having to wait until March. Good luck with your illustration work. I'm confident your talents will get you far.

Kitainia: I sure hope my brother pops the question. They've _only_ been living together for the past two years, and have ben an item for longer then that. They've both had to go several months without each other because she was working in Taiwan for a strecth. During that time my brother was absolutely miserable without her. It's obvious that this is the one for him. But he still hesitates. Grrr... :) Thanks for your wishes on my website. It seems to be working out, but I won't be 100% sure until the move is finished. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of a respectable coworker where Doug works. I hope that everything will work out in the end (i.e. they can hire someone to fill Mike's shoes).

DumlaoX: Am I in the presence of royalty? Should I kneel? :) j/k Welcome back!

JEB: Another one returns for however long. Stop by again if you can. And don't worry about shamless advertising. I do it with every post- even though no one visits. :)

Pistoff: Guess everyone up and decided to have a big reuinion all at once. :) Welcome back to you as well!

Archwolf: If you're considering a party for Doug, I will try very hard to be there. :) Good luck with classes, and with your growing relationship. Maybe one day, we'll be throwing you a party.

Winterwolf: Have you received any new snowfalls recently. I felt a little guilty last weekend playing in eighteen inches of it. You and the missus would have enjoyed it and the snowball fights, not to mention Capture the Flag at 1am. Suffic to say: it was dark. :) As for the Gathering, I'm disappointed too. I would have liked to meet those that are going. However, it's not like this is the last one. There will be one in 2002, which I plan on attending. Maybe it'll move eastward a little too. :) BTW, I just had a tour meeting tonight, and so far as I know nothing has changed. We're still on for the same day that I had given you earlier. Thanks again for all your help. It is greatly appreciated.

Doug: Like Archwolf suggested, we'll have to throw you a party before the big day. Talk to Christine or Spike if you want one for Kit. :) I hope too that you may one day off your congratulations to me, but it won't be this day. I did have someone close to me and we'll leave it at that. Anyway, it was almost two months ago. I thank you for your wishes. You didn't hear from me on Saturday because I was working with the server. However, things seem to have righted themselves. Once the move is finished I'll be breathing mush easier. :) *sigh* best of luck on the homefront, and convincing your parents that are a mature and capable adult who's in love. I never could understand why anyone would want to stop love. I have my guesses in this case, but that's not my place so I won't say anything. Instead, I offer you my sincerest wishes that things work out, and support if you need it (ala e-mail address below). Lastly, I hope those two new guys work out and help ease the load against your shoulders.

Wilek: Well, it seems we agree to disagree on this case. I know that truth isn't always entertaining. Since some movies (like Aliens: ressurection) are all about entertainment, I more then understand why realism was sacrificed. However, to me that was a flaw in the flim. To you (I think- let me know if I got this wrong) it is entertaining and enjoyable. Seems like I've just run out of things to argue about. :) Hmmm... you'll have to track down that story about 27 cubic feet of styrofoam peanuts for me. I could use the inspiration. :) So, you're not a clone of Wilek? Ok, that's cool. I won't further impede upon your galactic plans. Truthfully, I may need a job someday. :)

Mary: Concerning Jospeh, I know _exactly_ how you feel (though I'm on the other side). :) Yeesh, I feel like I should buy you a drink now or something. Hmmm... well if nothing else, I'll always have Star Wars. :)

SOROW: That's great to hear. If you can, I (and probably everyone else) would love to see it. Congratulations again!

Hitler: Was Hitler a barbarian? Yes. Was he a callous monster? Yes. Was he pure evil? Well, that's debatable. Remember, evil comes in many forms and the definition of evil always changes when you look at it through another man's eyes. Would you believe that Hilter never saw himself as evil? Would you believe that the people who supported Hitler considered him to be a champion of the classics? Hitler was an aritst, always considered himself to be one. After his stint in WWI, Hitler soon founf himself on the streets of Vienna, homeless and penniless. On the social ladder you could not go any lower then Hitler was during those first few years after the war. During his height in power, Hitler sought to acquiere many renaissance works by Botachelli (sp?) and Michaelangelo. He was also very much into Wagner and the other classical German composers. He saw himself as a cultured individual, but we know him as one of the most despicable human beings in history. And yet he was also on the cover of Time magazine more times then I want to remember. It just goes to show you where perspectives lie, and how different people see the same situation in a different way. Just some thoughts. Don't think for a second though, that I'm condoning Hitler's actions.

**********SPOILERS FOR LATEST TGS STORY**********
Took me long enough, huh? :) Oh well, I'll keep this one short. Overall, I think it's the best one of the season. Finally, we focus on one theme and run with it rather then hastily throw together many different stories all at once, giving a rushed feel. Quite the opposite here. I enjoyed the detail and both the imagery and in the dialogue. You really feel as though you're there, watching this melodrama unfold. I hope we get to see more of the Tepes family because they do intrigue me, even though Vlad was disappointing in the end. I was very psyched at first because here was a vampire who only wanted to find information. For once we see a being with supernatural ability using self-control. He doesn't want to fight. However, by the end it seems like he does an about-face from the beginning. Hopefully, some of the things he said at the end were only out of anger for having his home attacked. I don't mind of he does end up being an antagonist but let's develop him a little bit further. Let's let him try to stay under control for a little longer. That way, the reader will sympathize with him, kind of like how we felt a little sympathy for Xanatos during the first two seasons of Gargoyles (or maybe that was just me :)). Lex's charcaterization was also brilliant. That needs to develop more, and if possible throw Brooklyn into the mix as well, maybe even Graeme. I'd be willing to bet that he's still upset over what happened to his father not too long ago. Overall, a great addition of a new character. I hope we get to see and learn much more. And maybe when the next story comes out in a few days I'll be able to give a more in-depth review. :)
*********END SPOILERS**********

Well, I'm going to bed. I have tryouts for a solo tomorrow so wish me luck. :) It's Don Mclean's "Vincent (Starry, starry night)."

Starry starry night
paint your palette blue and gray
look out on a summer's day
with eyes that know the darkness in my soul

Shadows on the hills
sketch the trees and the daffodils
catch the breeze and the winter chills
in colors on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
what you tried to say to me
and how you suffered for your sanity
and how you tried to set them free
they would not listen, they did not know how
perhaps they'll listen now

Starry starry night
flaming flowers that brightly blaze
swirling clouds of violet haze
reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue

Colors changing hue
morning fields of amber grain
weathered faces lined in pain
are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand

Now I understand
what you tried to say to me
and you suffered for you sanity
and how you tried to set them free
they would not listen, they did not know how
perhaps they'll listen now

For they could not love you
but still your love was true
and when no hope was left in sight
on that starry starry night
you took your life as lovers often do
but I could've told you Vincent
this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you

Starry starry night
portraits hung in empty halls
frameless heads on nameless walls
with eyes that watch the world and can't forget

Like the strangers that you've met
the ragged men in ragged clothes
a silver thorn a bloody rose
lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
what you tried to say to me
and how you suffered for your sanity
and how you tried to set them free
they would not listen they're not listening still
perhaps they never will

I just love that song. I hope I get the solo. I apologize for any typos as it's very late right now. :) Good night all,


---Emambu

Emambu - [emambu@commandchamber.net]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Saturday, February 3, 2001 03:51:28 AM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Hey Gunjack, remember how you said you said you would post yesterday? What happened? I may just have to taunt you into posting. That might also be a good idea fro Wilek...

Doug> Good luck dealing with your parents.
<<and now waiting for its strategy guide to come out>>: RPGamer.com They have a very nice selection of FAQs and walkthroughs.

Odd TGS thought: What's the story on Renfield types in this universe? I've always liked the crazy ones.
<<Not necessarily taking damage itself>>: But you said before, "It won't assure my head takes no damage." But whatever.
<<perhaps ve should haff a toktor's appointment soon?>>: I'd rather not. And I don't think he'd be extremely interested in me, I'm not a twin and experiments work best when the subject is not a mix of the variables that are being controlled.

Lady Corax> Was there an mp3 you wanted me to try out and post?

CtB> <<not only were the Germans incredibly behind, they hadn't even established an atomic program>>: I think Bohr was doing some heavy water work for Germany. I think there was a movie about a spy getting a message to him from Einstien to get him to stop. The message was E=mc^2.

Fire Storm> Condolences on the separation from your connection. And other various travails. Good luck finding a new job.
<<Because I can't leave well enough alone>>: I think It'd be rather dangerous to allow html posts. You never know what some prankster might decide to do: redirect to a porn site, comment out everything before...

Robby> <<What the heck is a "heag"?>>: Apparently it's an indication that I need to readjust the sight on my left index finger up and to the right.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, February 3, 2001 02:28:55 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

~~AN ENCORE DEBUTE~~

***juliaexia enters...scurries to a corner that is shadowed by your screens...*sighs, no one has seen her* slowly she rustles threw her carry on bag 'AH' her 'disguise' is found...a knock at the door freezes her...*phew, it's just the pissa guy delivering to those nocturnal TGS addicts*...while they are distracted scurries to the closet. ...she transformers into her 'attire'...she takes a breath and flings the doors open...
"AAAAHHHHHHH.....EEEEEEEKkk....uh....whoa....huh?" the confused minds question....
*juliaexia is covered in christmas garland and walking provocativly to everyone in the CR* the room has silenced and stares in mass confusion to the spectacule amongst them.with no warning....
"TA-DA!!!!! IT'S CHRISTMAS EVERYDAY IN MY WORLD!!!!" ...and with that she calmly returns to the closet from where she emerged. everyone stands in shock and confusion. the door opens again and she is wearing a trench coat caring her 'christmas' in her shoulder bag....somewhat relieved, everybody is beginning to re-focus their thoughts before this out burst....but WITHOUT WARNING...she flails her bag accross the room, a hair away from pisstoff's nose and....
"I FLASH YOU ALL YET AGAIN!!!! FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH"she chants and stops....slowly closing her trench coat.....WHAT THE HELL.....SUPER FLASH "WHEEEEEEEEEEE" SHE SQUILES as she departs, again giggling hysterically....*
until next time....

now down to business. i've been skimming these hitler debates. everybody is valid to their own opinion as i am valid to mine. but i think people should do some reasearch on this. although i'm not jewish, i have friends who are. and i'm bringing some family history of my own. my parents fled Hungary during the post war revolution in 1956 and the have seen the horrors of camps. my parents (who did not meet in the old country, but in my home town) have been in camps and witnessed the horrors of the this are reluctant to talk about it b/c they can't take themselves to those times. the information that i know about my grand mother having an underground safe house for jewish woman b/c....the prelude to this is too long, so just go along with me on this one....Also, my Godfather (god rest is soul) was a bastard half jew ( i say bastard in the real sense, a child born out of wedklock) and he was sent to live with jewish relatives. somehow...i don't know how he escaped....but i DO know that he lost all of his family in Auschwitz..except his half brothers and sisters b/c they weren't jewish...i think. he passed away in october and we talked about this one day while i spent the day with just the two of them, my godmother included. but either way, he just met his half siblings within the past five or six years whom he hasn't ever seen. if it isn't obvious here....this whole hitler debate somewhat upsets me. he was a cruel man who attempted to play God. but wouldn't God try elimanate people in a more naturalistic way? ie natural disaster? Many of his actions were similar to Wagner (pronounced V-ah-gner). he was inspired and admired him...i cant' really recount the similarities at the moment because my sleepy drugs are starting to take effect.
that's all for tonight folks.....
*flashes house coat to DJ on last time*

juliaexia
ugabooba, ugalaboogala
Saturday, February 3, 2001 02:12:01 AM
IP: dynrez217-32-81.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Hey, I just discovered something fairly cool... By using THIS posting system, I can actually type up my post offline then cut and paste them into the box, something AOheL would NOT let me do! No more spending an hour writing a post only to get kicked off and lose it! Woo hoo!

In any event, in an attempt to finally catch up, I'll just start from where I posted yesterday, rather than try to do a month and a half of catch up...

Dumlao, Pistoff, Starsinger, JEB- Nice to see so many old posters return. Stick around if possible.

Gside- "Good to heag?" What the heck is a "heag"? (And yes, I know it was just a typo...)

Survivor, the Mole, Temptation Island and other such reality based shows- Honestly, I am interested in watching a couple of those, cept between TGS work, real life work, school, and B5 reruns which I'm seeing for the time, (we're just now hitting the end of season 4, and dang, this show made me cry two eps in a row!) well, my plate is honestly too full to watch that much TV. So I intend to start watching Outlaw Star tonight because they should now be on eps I haven't seen before, but other than that... AH well... Its fun to be busy in a way...

TGS stuff and vampires- As part of the breakdowns staff for season three, which took us nearly a YEAR to pull together, I saw a lot of ideas good and bad come and go, things change, plotlines develop, wrote a few outlines myself, wrote a couple stories that will be coming up later in the season. And while I can't spoil anything obviously, I will say that TGS is basically planned in fairly decent detail for another 2 seasons. (And that isn't even getting into Pendragon and Timedancer...) Some things that might seem insignifcant, unimportant, or forced right now might mean more later... The way a characters has been or is going may not seem proper right now, but a few eps down the line... Well, that would be telling...


Hitler being pure evil- I personally find it amusing that this topic has come up again. Yes, this CR has actually covered the topic "Was Hitler pure evil?" before. As I recall, it nearly led to a flame war. SO no problems with the topic, just tread carefully. My personal opinion, NO ONE is pure evil. Hitler was probably pretty close tho. At the very least, not from their own perspective. They don't believe themselves to be evil. There's two sides to EVERY story. Yes, Hitler killed millions and did lots of nasty stuff, but from SOME perspective or another, SOMEONE musta thought he was doing good. Not sure who, where or why someone would think that tho.

Willy WOnka- "Ooompa Loompa ooompety ooo, I have another riddle for you..." Classic movie. Just WHY is there gonna be a remake? Its kinda like remaking the Miracle Worker or Miracle on 34th street. They had perfect performances the first time around. I can sorta understand remaking them in color, but Willy Wonka? Wha? It also baffles me even more why they bother doing remakes that are scene for scene and line for line COPIES of the original... AH well...

Firestorm- Here's hoping you can find a funner happier better paying job soon...

Fox getting Slayers- I give it three episodes aired. Tops. To air on Fox, my favorite series EVER will have to be butchered HORRIBLY. There's gonna be a loooooooooot of dialouge editing. Folks who have actually seen the show won't watch once they see the editing, and those who haven't seen it won't get the appeal, because all the jokes won't make any sense... (not to mention the 5 year old audience Fox is aiming for wouldn't get the ORIGINAL jokes, let alone the edited ones.) Ah well. I intend to watch the premiere with several of my friends. We have a MST session planned... 8)

And now, because its just gone too dang long without happening...

**TEN SAGA RP!**

The assorted cast members stood around in the empty field, waiting for something to happen.
SJ sighed. "Wow, it's like we've spent the last year waiting to fight the remaining ten. Hard to believe its been less than a week... I suppose those filler adventures are partially responsible."
Kari agreed. "Yeah well... Any idea who the new redheaded girl is?"
"Eh? What new girl?"
"The one that showed up right when Robby LAST tried to get this RP going again. Right before his ability to post to the room got cut."
"Oh. Her. Uhm, no. Maybe we should ask?"
Black Tiger shook his head. "No point. I already tried. She won't give me her name."
"Hmm." Robby's evil twin and supergenius Lonny frowned.
The red head approached them. "This is where the Ten will strike?"
"Uh, whats left of them. I think there's only two left... We kinda skipped over about 6 of them when posting became difficult..."
"Ah." The red head smiled. "Well then, shouldn't be too difficult to take them out."
Kitty Noying looked unconvinced. "What? Unless you're a Super Saiyin or something, we're kinda screwed. We only beat 4 by a fluke, and the others are much stronger... Geez, Jim AND Mij died while fighting 4. Jim kinda came back, but then he kinda died again."
"I see," the girl nodded. "And is he going to be helping us fight?" Everyone turned, and saw... Mephisto?

Robby
Saturday, February 3, 2001 12:34:33 AM
IP: aca0e600.ipt.aol.com

Sev. Jr.-Farscape, I love it can't get enough. My favorite ep. was when they went completely insane. "I have great eye, they're better than 20/20 and they're blue!"

Kit- My sister had better do well in college or she's going to be in trouble.

Doug- There are times when I do wonder where time went. Good luck with the wedding, it will work out.

Well gotta go, I have a date witht the gym.
Later

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 10:45:42 PM
IP: 211.237.77.59

I'm just going to jump around here and make some replies.

DPH:
Happy Special Day! Sorry I didn't catch it earlier; I've been a bit distracted the past few days. I'll try to do better.
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Fire Storm:
Aww, man! Sorry for the sucky week. Here's hoping it gets better.
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Lynati:
Thanks; hugs are always good. :) I like to think that I have a good sense of humor, and I know it was just meant in fun. Besides, doesn't everyone like to have blue paint dumped on them? ;)
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King Snarf:
I don't think you're incurring anyone's wrath. Don't worry about expressing your opinions. We all have preferences for certain characters.
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Hitler stuff:
All I can say is that I'm glad Godwin's Rule doesn't seem to affect comment rooms: only Usenet. :)

Didn't we have a discussion on evil not too long ago?
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Kirshanta:
I liked Madoc, too. But, although he's gone now, we still have to deal with his legacy; Vince, the vampires, and Lex's implants are recent examples, but there will certainly be more to come. As far as internal conflicts and interpersonal relationships, don't worry. I doubt that these will be forgotten. In fact, next week... oops! Did I say that or just think it? ]:)

I have some thought on Madoc's legacy; maybe I'll post them later.
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Doug & Kitainia:
Thanks to both of you for your thoughts. I'm managing.
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Gside:
Same to you.
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Winterwolf:
Thanks.
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juliaexia:
Uh, feel free to do that anytime. :) We don't mind; really!
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That's enough for now.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 10:23:54 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

I don't go to therapy to find out if I'm a freak
I go and I find the one and only answer every week
And it's just me
And all the memories to follow
Down any course that fits within a 50 minute hour
And we fathom all the mysteries, explicit and inherent
When I hit a rut she says to try the other parent
And she's so kind
I think she wants to tell me something
But she knows that it's much better if I find it for myself

and she says ooooooooo
what do you hear in these sounds
and oooooooooo
what do you hear in these sounds

I say I hear a doubt with the voice of true believing
And the promises to stay and the footsteps that are leaving
And she says "oh?"
I say "what?!?"
She says "exactly!"
I say "What?!? You think I'm angry, does that mean you think I'm angry??"
She says "look you come here every week
With jigsaw pieces of your past
It's all on little soundbytes and voices out of photographs
And that's all yours
That's the guide, that's the map
So tell me where does the arrow point to?? Wo invented roses??"

and ooooooooh
what do you hear in these sounds?
oooooooo
what do you hear in these sounds?

And when I talk about therapy, I know what people think
That it only makes you selfish and in love with your shrink
And oh, how I loved everybody else
When I finally got to talk so much about myself!

And I wake up and I ask myself what state I'm in
And I say "well I'm lucky cos I am like East Berlin"
I have this wall
And all I knew of the Free World
Was that I could see their fireworks, I could hear their radio
And I thought that if we met, I would only start confessing
And they'd know that I was scared,
They would know that I was guessing
But the Wall came down
And there they stood before me
With their stumbling and their mumbling and their calling out
Just like me

and oooooooooh
The stories that nobody hears..
aaaaaaaaaaaah
I collect these sounds in my ears
and oooooh
That's what I hear in these sounds.

-Dar Williams

lain
where the water is wide
Friday, February 2, 2001 09:51:02 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

***BEGIN RP***
"So, what do we do now?" Warpmind asked SJ.
SJ sat down on a rock, and sighed. "Well, twiddle our thumbs until Robby can post, I guess. After all, the big Ten battle IS his call."
Warpmind's brows furrowed. "So, we have to wait."
"Looks like it."
Warpmind was silent for a moment. "I could call Coolio back and have him rap for us in the meantime!"
"NO!" everyone said in unison.
***END RP***

Hello, Ladies and Gentlemen! I am now speaking to you...um, so to speak....using a 56k modem! Yes....yes, I know, that's virtually archaic in this day of cable modems and ISDN lines, but the previous computer I was using only had a 33.6 modem, before it died, so 56k is an upgrade. Plus, finally got a new computer. Nothing really that much better than the old one, cause this "new" computer is second-hand, but it's a little faster and has a little more memory. Anyway, that's some good news for me.

First off, Political stuff......Ashcroft got confirmed. Big whoop. Did anyone NOT see that coming? Please, much ado about nothing. Look, he was gonna get it no matter what. Even if it came down to party lines, with 50 Republicans saying yes, and 50 Democrats saying no, who casts the tie breaker? Dick Cheney. He was in the moment his name got nominated.

The REALLY important political thing that happened this week was something that was sort of local here in the Washington D.C. area. One of my heroes, G. Gordon Liddy (known to many as one of the Watergate conspirists) won his defamation suit yesterday. Some background--Liddy was being sued by a woman named Ida Wells for 5.1 million dollars, because his "alternative" theory to Watergate stated that the entire Watergate break in was not about wiretapping or stealing political secrets, but rather because John Dean wanted to cover up his (and his girlfriend's) involvement with a call-girl operation that was located across the street from a Democrat headquarters. I can't really go into all the specifics, cause it'd make no sense to anyone who doesn't know the story behind Watergate, but he won a victory yesterday when the defamation suit was dismissed by a federal court judge after the jury (which swayed in favor of Gordon, 7-2) could not reach a unanimous verdict. So, Liddy gets off.
I'm sure none of you really care, it's just something I think is cool. I'm a Liddy fan, because the guy's got balls made of steel, and hey, I respect anyone who brags about being able to "properly" kill a man with a number 2 pencil.

Hitler: We've covered this territory before. Whenever someone brings up Demona and whether or not she's "evil", someone inevitably brings up Hitler. I suppose it's the annoying little hobby of genocide they both share. About Hitler, or more accurately, about the debate on Hitler's "evilness" or lack thereof, I have 2 things to say:
One, and I mean no disrespect, but to all of you who do not believe that Hitler is evil, or that there is no such thing as evil in the world, than I must say that you live in a wonderful yet horribly naive little world of which I wish I could inhabit, but alas I have actually seen too much horror and cruelty to ever believe that evil does NOT exist, alive and well, within the world and the human heart.
Secondly, and I know this is a bit of a low blow, but I'd love to see those who do not feel that Hitler was evil explain their point of view to someone who actually survived the Holocaust. Maybe some of them would be open to a different opinion, but if my family got roasted in the ovens, or if someone I loved and cherished got sent to Mengele so that they could be tortured and then dissected like animals, I'd probably be a little insensitive to a differing point of view of the man.

Speaking of evil, yes, Marilyn Manson will not play Wonka. And thank God he won't. I mean, I like him, like his music, and I think he's genuinely talented (as a musician and as an entertainer), but it's blasphemy to cast him as Wonka. Alas, the sad part is that they *are* remaking the Wonka movie. Well, technically this is supposed to be a new adaption of the book instead of a remake, but you know that they'll just find a way to screw it all up. Can anyone say "Gus Van Sant's 'Psycho'"?

In further movie news, here a rumor that I heard that, for some hideously morbid reason I *want* to be true--O.J. Simpson has allegedly been hired (for the sum of 1.5 mill) to star in a pornographic slasher movie. His character--I s*** you not--will be a serial killer who delights in raping women before killing them, and in one scene (if this crap can be believed) he kills a beautiful blonde woman and a male jogger who tries to stop the crime. SOUND FAMILIAR??? A Japanese firm is allegedly supposed to be financing this all, which could lend credence to the credibility of this rumor, seeing as most Japanese porn (and I'm talking the live-action stuff) is pretty graphic and/or grotesque. Not that I've ever seen any Japanese porn, but if you ever read a copy of "Video Watchdog" the descriptions alone are enough to give you a bad taste in your mouth.
For some sick, undefined reason, I kind of want this to be true. I mean, it would be *so* O.J. to do this. It would be, like, him going full circle. He kills her, he gets off, he makes a movie about it. All I can is, if this movie ever was made, it would be an instant cult classic.

In more movie news, my favorite Slayer, Elisa Dushku (sorry Buffy, but everyone loves the bad girl!), will have a special role in the fourth (or is that really fifth, counting Dogma?) movie set in Kevin Smith's View Askew universe, "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back". The role is special because it was created specifically for her by Smith after seeing her give an excellent audition.
Oh, and you Smith fans, you might want to check your local comic shop this month. Kevin Smith's latest comic project, a revival of DC Comics' "Green Arrow", will be hitting stores by the end of the month. With Kevin on board, it's likely you won't be seeing too many boxing-glove arrows like GA had to use in the old SuperFriends days.

And in even more movie / comic news, director Ang Lee, who just recently did the unbelievable "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (which is the BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR TWO THOUSAND, AND ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES I HAVE SEEN PERIOD!!!!! IF IT DOESN'T GET AN OSCAR NOMINATION, I WILL HAVE TO RIP OUT SOMEONE'S THROAT WITH MY BARE TEETH!!!...sorry, but a movie of such beauty and magnitude deserves all caps ;), will be helming the live-action big screen adaption of "The Incredible Hulk". That's the good news. The bad news is that, since Lee isn't pleased with the script and is ordering some rewrites, we won't see the film till 2003. Considering that, in the mean time we'll get to see most if not all of the LOTR movies, as well as the Spider-Man movie, probably the next Star Wars movie, AND probably another Matrix sequel, I think I can bide my time.

And because I am obsessed with comics, let me inform all of you X-Men fans that the X-Men will be getting their first openly gay member, Northstar, in the next few months.
This pisses me off.
As far as gay characters go, Northstar is horrible. He's almost a goddamn stereotype. There have been far better written homosexual characters in comics. Hell, Mystique and Destiny had a much more developed and interesting same-sex relationship. If you wanted to insert a gay character, that's great, but you couldn't find a better one?
Or maybe I'm just still very, very, VERY pissed that they killed off Colossus, one of the coolest X-Men EVER, and replaced him with this second-stringer. Alpha Flight my ass. Alpha Flight wasn't fit to wear the X-Men's jock straps.

Attention Slayers Fans: I'm sure it's been said in here before, but this month, Fox is supposedly going to begin airing Slayers episodes, presumably in their Saturday morning lineup.
I greet this with a critical, cynical eye. I'm sure that they'll cancel it after a handful of episodes, like they did with Escaflowne. Dumbasses. Cause "Nascar Racers" is soooo much better than (arguably) one of the greatest anime series of all time.

Caliope: Well, the new season of Farscape starts March 16, so we are going to have to wait and see if Aeryn is really dead or not. The preview for the new season has some quick shots of Aeryn in it, but I'm wary. The general fan consensus around the net (and I've checked) is that Clauda Black *will* be back as Aeryn Sun, but no one is 100 percent certain. I think she'll be back, but then again, there's what I call the "Tasha Yar / Jadzia Dax Factor". That is, essentially, sometimes when a character dies--they actually stay dead, cause that actor/actress ain't cashing a paycheck no more. I would think that if Claudia was leaving the show, it would have been reported by now, but one can never be too sure.
Personally, if Aeryn IS dead for real, it would almost completely ruin the show for me. As a guy too "macho" to watch soap operas, Aeryn and John's romance is my idea of high drama. ;)

200 Bill: I heard about this. My favorite part of the story is that, on the back of the bill, there was a picture of the White House with a sign stating "We Like Broccoli" planted on the lawn.
This is almost as dumb as the KFC story. The one where the couple found the recipe for original KFC? But wait, KFC said it wasn't the real recipe. Right. It was only a recipe calling for *exactly* 11 herbs and spices. For fried chicken. Heh.

***SURVIVOR REVIEW***
Well, the second episode of the new season of Survivor has come and gone, and what a show!
I know most folks don't see the interest in Survivor, but I love the show. You don't get it--the reason why I watch the show is *because* it's about 16 morons who put backstab each other in order to win a million bucks. It's the dirty, nasty side of human nature, and I love it. This week's show was no different.
For this week's episode, a few more things were cemented in my mind--I REALLY hate Jerri, the aspiring actress, who has become the new Ultra-Bitch. I spent half the show wanting to strangle her, and the other half wanting to strangle Kimmi, the New York bartender (oops, have to use the accurate New York "Kimmi" accent--the New Yawk bawhtenduh). Kimmi almost lost this week's immunity challenge for her team when she refused to eat the cow brains, but she sucked it up in time at the end to eat one big ass worm (it was kind of cool, too. The worm's innards were blue, and after she ate it, her mouth and tongue was all blue as well!) and secure her team the victory. It was a good immunity challenge--much better than last year's, which only had the castaways eating live grubs. In this challenge, live grubs were the good parts of the potential meals. Much kudos goes to Marlayne, the butch ex-D.C. police officer, for removing her lower set of teeth when she was wolfing down bugs and cow brains and worms, and also to the other old guy, Rodger, for diving off a cliff and swimming out to a raff (and the poor guy had only learned to swim a week and a half before!).
But the real show centered around Kel. Kel, he of the hidden snack products. Yes, the big controversy of this week's episode was that Kel was eating some beef jerky he had snuck inside his gear (but wait, he says it was just grass he was chewing!), and didn't offer to share the tasty meat product with his fellow tribe members. So, led by Jerri the camera-mugging Ultra-Bitch, Kel the Army Captain became the first member voted off of Ogakor Tribe.
Now, you would think he got voted off because of the jerky. But he didn't--the story was broke today that he got pitched because there was some other jerky going on. Yes, that's right. You see, when the tribe members saw Kel eating jerky, they rifled through his gear to see if he had some more. And when they found none, they went to go see if they could catch him eating in the woods. What they found shocked them, and, well, they didn't show this on TV because of the censorship issues. What was Kel doing that was so horrible? Yes, you've guessed it.
Kel was running a batch. Working the pump. Choking the chicken, spanking the monkey, having a tug-of-war with cyclops. How can I spell it out any clearer? Kel was pleasuring himself.
God bless him, I guess the sight of all those girls in bikinis just was too much for him. So, he snuck off into the bushes, he's going to town, and before he can......complete the act....he gets caught by everyone. And the camera crew (here's hoping *that* never makes it to the blooper reel, huh?). So, the real reason that Kel was booted was not because he was eating jerky, but because he was making jerkey, so to speak. Then again, I can't blame him. He's a typical guy
So, Kel the Manual Reliever was voted off the island, and another fine episode of Survivor has come and gone. A thumbs up from me! ;)
****END REVIEW***

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 09:50:38 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Well, under Supidest Employee Awards with Specail Commendation, this years award should go one of the employees of one of our local Dairy Queen's here in Albuquerque. This bright wit acceptted and gave change for a $200 bill. Yes, you heard correctly. A two dollar and change order was paid for with a $200 dollar bill with his Fraudulency's picture. Opps sorry. Georgie Bush's picture and the words Rigth to Bear Arms instead of In God We Trust.

I saw the bill as it was reported on one of our local tv channels Wednesday. They can't procecute for counterfeit as there is no such thing as a $200 bill, but I guess they could get the person for fraud. I don't think there is anyone that stupid in this room.


Starsinger
Friday, February 2, 2001 07:48:36 PM
IP: proxy-1522.public.svc.webtv.net

Congrats to Gside, Doug, and Winterwofl for figuring out today was my birthday. Just call me 'the Master of subtly conveying information'.

Yes, that was me who arranged for a message to appear about today 'being a special day for someone' in a couple of egroups.

Proof that I am not a clone of Daniel Johnson - he should have figured out my clues and said an early happy birthday to me if I was his clone.

**WORK RELATED**
Ok, about my job. When you have no employment history to speak of, anything just about goes. I will put up with this for a couple of reasons: 1) I definitely need to go back to college and take a few classes to get a job in the field I want. Doing so requires earning my own money. 2)My resume sure could use some full-time employment on it. Besides, I have been learning a lot while there, mostly learning how NOT to do things.
**END WORK RELATED**

**EVIL DEBATE**
Hmm. Pure Evil does not really exist in humanity/gargoyles/fey. Hitler was evil, but not pure evil. Demona and Madoc was evil, but not pure evil.
**END EVIL DEBATE**

**RP RELATED**
Previously, on BFTS RP, the Speed Stars demolished DPH's house. When Plastique drove DPH home from the battle, the Speed Stars destroyed DPH's car. Did DPH surive?\
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
*AD*
Want to be given favoritism in hiring practices and promotions? Come work at Xolem.
*END AD*

In a cloaked airplace, Plastique and an unconscious DPH are being flown to ITAG HQ.

Plastique asked, "How did we surive?"

Unknown pilot, "Joe teleported you two out of the car just a second before it exploded. The Speed Stars demolished DPH's house. The Speed Stars think both of you died when they destroyed the car."
**END BFTS RP for now**
Will ITAG be able to revive DPH?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 07:05:59 PM
IP: max1-24.cwy.cei.net

Because I can't leave well enough alone...
</FONT><FONT COLOR=#000000>this is a test!

Fire Storm
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:45:01 PM
IP: pppa89-resaledetroit1-2r7402.dialinx.net

TO ANYONE WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE!

I am being held away from the internet against my will!

DC has forcibly taken my DSL away from me and my only access is through a proxied 56k connection! (damn... I knew I should have put a modem on this thing...)

Well, my week sucked.

Monday, I found out that my dentist won't work on me or my *17* cavities unless I have an EKG.

Tuesday...
I was fired. They told me because I was late, but I found out later (and it confirmed my suspicions), that the company was going under and they wanted to lighten the load. It won't work. They are going down! :) That makes me happy!

For those of you who haven't done so...

VOTE! We would like to know what pictures are going to be used in the next update! (I am e-mailing Gorebash the files every other day)

I'll post when I can... they are watching me night and day!
OH NO! I gotta go now! A guard is coming! :)
VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

Fire Storm - [<--- VOTE! EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT! (NO CHADS WERE USED OR HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS POLL!]
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:43:34 PM
IP: pppa89-resaledetroit1-2r7402.dialinx.net

*Lynati Enters*

Daniel Johnson: *Hands over BIG jar of patented "Essence of Hugs* I hope your situation improves.
I'm glad I could amuse you...before I re-checked the CR I was informed of your stituation, and was worried that having a bucket of paint dumped on your head the second you entered the CR would have been the lasted thing you needed...I guess shiny blue-ness just makes us all feel better, tho.

Poster contest:...ah. Extension. I got mine in at what I thought was half an hour past the deadline *sheepish expression*.
But at least I got it in!
Wasn't a great scan-job...hope the idea makes up for that.

Warpmind:...Q: Would your parents be as upset if you kept it, but legally made it your middle name?...just a thought.
Also- for that thing you wanted to build...getting the parts individually may be cheaper, but have you figured in the labor cost? I don't have a way to reference THAT, but I have a feeling that it will be a big bite on the @$$...just a worry.
*Big Smooch* :)

Valentine: which is driving you more insane- trying to comprehend SE lain, or trying to comprehend my backplot explanations?
...Incidently, don't ever think of the two at the same time. It will cause your brain to disintegrate. ;)

*Lynati runs out to catch Warps on IM...again.*
Lynati
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:36:18 PM
IP: posseisdn143.the-posse.com

Coyote the bando> We're doomed. doomed! Matt> I can imagine
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:31:26 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

* cowering, afraid to further incur the wrath of The TGS staffers* Okay, okay, okay. I'm just saying he struck ME as kind of one-dimensional. I wasn't as interested in him as I was with Macbeth or Xanatos.

An interesting fact about Hitler: He loved Disney's Snow White & the Seven Dwarves. He'd watch the film several times a day! Can you imagine a guy who ordered mass genocide so taken with THAT movie?

Matt "King Snarf" Maybray - [m5maybray@Juno.com]
Drexel Hill, PA, 19026
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:27:02 PM
IP: ts027d15.phe-pa.concentric.net

**shuffles into the room, shivering** Geez ... I was plannin' on working on my car this afternoon, but the wind blowing was just too dang cold! Ah well ...

Doug: Bummer on the parents, dude ... but eventually, they're gonna finally reach the point where they realize you're an adult and whatever say they give you can only be an opinion, not a command. I gather from your tone that it's going to be sooner, or things are going to get ugly ...

Hitler debate: If there's any evidence in existence that shows conclusively that Hitler was a single-minded, foolishly bigoted and intolerant individual, it's this:
Near the end of the European war, the Allies were afraid that the Germans were well on their way to their own atomic weapon program, and that it might actually be further ahead than the Americans'. In reality, what they discovered once the had taken Berlin was that not only were the Germans incredibly behind, they hadn't even established an atomic program ... because Hitler referred to the science needed to create atomic weapons as "Jewish physics," and had no patience for physicists. (The only exception to this might have been Werner von Braun, but he wasn't a nuclear physicist ... Einstein was, and guess where *he* fled to.)
Hitler evil? Definitely. *And* stupid.

And responding to Skippy's post ... most students of the writings of Nostradamus believe that Hitler was the second of three Antichrists that Nostradamus predicted. The first is generally accepted to be Napoleon. The third has yet to be identified, but all the smart money goes to the third being Saddam Hussein.

Milady Corax: Okay then ... how does "Queen of the Quarter Mile" sound? ;)

'Sall for me this evening. **shuffles out the door to try to warm up**

Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:05:04 PM
IP: 216.28.101.86

Fireworks go off outside of the CR. Suddenly, holograms saying 'Happy 24th Birthday Daniel Paul Hightower' show up in the CR.
Anonymous
Friday, February 2, 2001 05:55:58 PM
IP: max1-24.cwy.cei.net

Just cuz I know that some ppl were totally freakin out.. =)

Taken from:
www.cinescape.com
Thursday, February 1, 2001
Manson Not Wonka
Word that Marilyn Manson would be taking on the role of Willy Wonka in the still developing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake has been turning up all over the place. There's just one problem with it: it isn't true.

Warner Bros., who will be releasing the eventual movie, took to task the story that originated in the New York Post in a press release stating:

"Contrary to a false and misleading report published in the Jan. 31 edition of the New York Post, singer Marilyn Manson has not been cast in a role in the upcoming Warner Bros. Pictures film Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

"Additionally, the director of the project is not Tim Burton, as falsely stated in the Post. Gary Ross (Pleasantville, Dave, Big) is directing the film, currently in development at the Studio, from a screenplay by Scott Frank (Out of Sight), which he is adapting from the beloved Roald Dahl novel.

"Neither Gary Ross nor Warner Bros. Pictures have any intention whatsoever of casting Marilyn Manson in the revered role of 'Willy Wonka' or any other role in the film.

"Warner Bros. Pictures has requested that the New York Post issue a retraction of this erroneous story immediately."

In addition, NY Daily News gossip columnist Mitchell Fink was in contact with a spokesman for the band who is quoted as saying, "It is absolutely not true."


Oracle
Friday, February 2, 2001 05:34:38 PM
IP: mke-24-167-233-114.wi.rr.com

New on my site: some pics by Shingami and a new vignette by Kimberley. Click on my name or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html for the latest.

Survivor II > methinks Jerri is a more conniving and sly rhymes-with-witch than I initially gave her credit for ... wouldn't surprise me if she had made up that entire beef jerky thing to get everyone distrusting Kel. And she's going after Keith with the food issue too, and if the previews are right she's going to put the moves on Colby (and then, betcha, she finds some way to make it look like he treated her badly so the rest of the gals vote _him_ off). What irked me most, though, about last night's ep was Kimmi. A shame she came through in the end; I would have sooner see her blow it for the entire tribe and then get booted.

Doug > scheming against each other ... LOL, but that's the _fun_ part! Well, really, the fun part is the way they torture 'em with the reward challenges; that's my favorite aspect. I'd never want to be on the show, but I'd love to work for them! About Black Roses, thank you for the input! I will do this voice test thing over Presidents' Day and see what happens.

Spike > thank you so much for taking on the MageLore pics; sorry I wasn't together enough to get you those descriptions more promptly. Thanks also for the choice of Sabledrake covers! I think it's great the way you're building a rep in the game biz. Next up, we'll have to get you in with SJ Games; those folks are in dire need of some better interior art! ; )

Lady Corax > I can't imagine anyone bringing _makeup_ for gosh sakes; I'd choose a journal and pen (and, LOL, see if I could get 'autographs' from my tribe so I'd have an idea what their handwriting looked like, never know, might help during the voting to give me an idea who's up to what <g>).

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 05:16:46 PM
IP: 10-064.075.popsite.net

Grr yes I have to post again. I agree Lady Corax and yet isn't that what Demona is? a person who wishes to kill 6 million people, more in fact. Destroy Humanity! I read Lain's links (nod) everyone has their backstories
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 02:59:21 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Okay...I have a physics test and a chemistry exam next week, and an essay to finish this weekend, and I only have one question...did Kel REALLY have beef jerky? I must know! :)

Survivor II> Man, what was up with kicking Kel off??? I believed him when he said he didn't have extra food, and I was ready to kick Jerri off because of it...but man, they all went for him. Hm...maybe it was that solitary attitude of his, I don't know. I'm kinda liking Maralyn's blunt honesty, kind of like I liked Rudy last season, but my man Colby's still in it! Woo hoo! :)

Todd> Thanks for the congrats on my paper. It was really fun to write when I found out I would be able to pull it off! I had a conference with my instructor, and she LOVES the paper, and now she wants to see the show because of it. :) And I didn't even think of your idea of Elisa as a stepmother kind of figure to Angela, or at least sisters...I think I might include something along those lines when I edit the paper this weekend. Would you mind? :) Plus, I just wanna say that it's darn fun to cite "Ask Greg" in an academic paper...:)

Christine> Yeah, if I had brought the flag, I'd let everyone know that if I go, it goes! :) But EYELINER??? I mean, come on!!! That has to be the most useless thing in the world to bring...what were they thinking?

Warpmind> Exact-a-mundo! That quote was from Revenge of the Nerds III, which I actually thought was pretty cute. :) Here, have a...um...pocket protector for knowing where the quote came from. :)

And just to let everyone know, the first Revenge of the Nerds was filmed right here on campus...it's cool to watch the movie and know your way around "Adams College." :)

Coyote> **stares as juliaexia runs out of the room, then turns to Coyote** Um...maybe I don't deserve the title "Queen of the Strip" any more...;) And I'm still the only person back home that can say that the superintendent of schools, head of the school board, fire chief, and local radio personality call me either by "drag queen" or "hot rod." Or both. :)

Robby> <<All that is coming and more...>> COOL! **rubs her hands together evilly** I can't wait. :)

Pistoff> Welcome back! :)

Doug> I would kind of agree that some of the thrill of Survivor is gone...for me, it's mainly because there's no Machiavellian mastermind named Rich who manipulated the others perfectly from day one this time around. Well, at least not yet...maybe someone will take over that role, but it looks unlikely so far. This time, it's all about social interaction. And you know, somewhere around here I have a book with how to curse in Latin...quite fun...I'll have to find it. :) And I hope that things work out with your parents and the wedding plans...**crosses her fingers**

Hitler Debate> I'm not goin' near this one, although I agree totally with Greg. He's just plain evil in my mind. No, he wasn't one-dimensional...but really, killing *six million people* because they weren't part of his idea of the perfect race, nationality, etc. were just wrong. Unacceptable, and just plain evil. And I don't think he ever had children...and I didn't know that he married Eva right before their suicides. That's interesting, and all I can say is that I hope no one like him ever gets that much power ever, eeever again.

Well, I'd better be goin'...and I just have one word for y'all...SPOON! ;)

Lady Corax
Friday, February 2, 2001 02:35:23 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

here is the other one.
I hope they both work.

lain
Friday, February 2, 2001 01:44:13 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

some thoughts concerning Hitler and the greyness of all.
Sorry I am gonna make a double post here cos there are two links I would like to put up.
Thank you

lain
Friday, February 2, 2001 01:42:27 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Skippy> interesting
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 12:52:39 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

James Birdsong> Hitler comments> I just had to point out that Hitler was never married. Eva Braun was his companion up to the end of the war, and I never have heard anything about Hitler having children. I'm sorry but there is very little that can suggest Hitler was nothing less than a sociopathic meglaomaniac whose self agrandizement cost tens of millions of lives, both of his own people, his Jewish victims, and Allied forces. If he's not the closest thing to the AntiChrist the world has seen I don't know what is...
Skippy The Klingon - [skippy_the_klingon@yahoo.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 12:10:57 PM
IP: 63.210.150.144

I'm trying to post more often but between school and what not not much happes in my life to talk about.
oh well
These though are the kind of weeks that I'm glad that my Dad made me learn how to work on a car. There is not many things that are worse than when you go out to your vehicle put the key and and get NOTHING. Quite annoying. Luckily I have the Big Book to my Bronco so it was all amatter of figuring out what has not gone out yet.
To sum up it wasn't so bad except the walk to the Auto parts store and the fact that a starter motor weighs about twenty five pounds.
Doesn't sound like much until you crawl onto the asphalt of a parking lot and hold the thing with one hand while you tighten with the other.
Other than that, I draw, I write notes, and I read. Yep that's it.
oh well.
Later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Friday, February 2, 2001 11:57:39 AM
IP: ac8232d9.ipt.aol.com

(yes another post today. Debates have more then one post) Greg> ok
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 11:39:27 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

James Birdsong> Being a mass-murderer does not neccesarily make someone pure evil, but it is still inexcusable and they are evil, just maybe not pure evil. Adolf Hitler on the other hand was more than a mass-murderer. It was't just the killing, but it was also the cruelty and sadism, and his reasons also. There are no good or justifiable reasons to commit murder, but Hitler's reasons were among the worst... because his victims were different, they did not fit his vision of what a human was. He was more concerned with genocide than winning the war. His generals wanted him to send weapons and soldiers to the front lines, but Hitler instead used the trains to ship more Jews to the Death camps. If anyone ever lived who was pure evil than it was Adolf Hitler.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 11:27:01 AM
IP: dialin-1243-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Feel free NOT the read the last post (eats the word eater typo)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 11:06:14 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

(since this is such a sensitive topic for people feel free to read this post) Greg> Yes well being a mass murderer makes you pure evil? Just simple inquery. Please don't over-react. I'm no empath so forgive my ignorance ._. (end post)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Friday, February 2, 2001 11:05:26 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Lain> I think of Hitler as an acception to that rule. Maybe I did overreact, but I'm of Jewish descent and Hitler is a very touchy subject with me. When I first learned about the Holocaust when I was younger, my father (who is fully Jewish) showed me some graphic videos along with "Schindler's List", and he drilled into my skull that if I were born a few decades earlier and in Europe, that could have been me.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 10:46:51 AM
IP: dialin-1243-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*steps quietly beside Greg and would like to point out a little something... *
*clears throat and recites*

"Also I don't think of him as pure evil, no one is pure evil."
"WTF!!! Hitler NOT pure evil?!... How can you say that he was NOT pure evil"

and um... yeah.. that's about all I have to say about that.. except to point out (yet again) that I don't actually believe in evil, though I think when I committed to that Joyride, I might have started down that slippery path myself.. hmmm...
and, BTW, before I get in trouble for it.. just because I don't believe people can be "evil" or in "evil" itself does not mean that I do not think what Hitler did was not terrible and amongst the worst crimes ever committed on this earth to date.
and now I have to go to the gym.
if you want to spit on me for that remark, go ahead.
love,

lain 10111, O ye pacefist
Friday, February 2, 2001 10:35:05 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

James Birdsong> WTF!!! Hitler NOT pure evil?! First of all he was NOT married, he only married Eva Braun the night they commited suicide. And only a villain because he was on the "villain" side of the war?! He killed six million Jews, and countless other Gypsies, Russians, Homosexuals, Handicapped, and anyone who did not fit his vision of the Aryan superior being. How can you say that he was NOT pure evil.
Greg Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 09:19:33 AM
IP: bess2.lhric.org

Kirshanta> Just so long as you don't see Hitler as pure evil. He had a wife and two children he loved very much. For school I am reading about the 1936 Olympics and trust me: he isn't one dimentional but I agree he was villian side of the war (shrug) all matter of opnion :D
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Token sane guy
Friday, February 2, 2001 08:55:34 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

King Snarf < No Madoc was NOT one-dimensional. I think Greg Xanatos is right. You have to read between the lines. That's what makes any great story. The SUBTILITY. The details that let the reader figure stuff out by himself instead of laying it all out and taking the flavour away. We're way past kids books here.

I actually beleive Madoc was one of the better villains. With depth and history and a tie in with the story no one saw coming. I wish he and Meave were still around and not their over-used descendants (vamps).

How about instead of villains, we have internal conflicts for awhile. We certainly have enough main characters to warrant it. A lot of them need a good character update. I mean, what has all this done to their relationship (especially the Brooklyn thing). That could be way more interesting than all these villains-with-no-plot.

Warpmind < Madoc and Oberon were twins. And Madoc was NOT pure evil. No one is. Except maybe Hitler - and I think even he was part child and part evil...

That's all for now - I hope I can post this whole

Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 08:15:20 AM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

Hey everyone!

Todd < OK OK. Don't go beserk me... You like your idea, fine. It doesn't mean I like it. I happen to agree with Doug - a story writes itself and this one just didn't seem to.

I just feel somewhat confused - I mean there are so many villains in TGS - good ones. Ones that can be expanded on or explained in more detail.

Ok I understand that vampires had to be explaied - but couldn't you have eased into it. I mean we jumped from the Illumianti trying to fake a trial for What exactly?? to finding vampires in New York - continuity here people...


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 08:14:40 AM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

Warpmind> No Madoc was not older, he and Oberon were twins. Also I don't think of him as pure evil, no one is pure evil. I also don't think he was one-dimensional, maybe some people need to go back and read between the lines in some of the stories featuring him. THen again, since I was on staff when we were developing the character I may be biased, but that's how I see the guy.

But don't worry, you will be seeing interesting villains and some old favorites. I even think Vlad is interesting, but... oh well you'll see. For now I have to go to class.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 07:29:48 AM
IP: dialin-1243-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*Warpmind enters, whistling.*
Hours chatting with Lynati on IM... what a most excellent, enjoyable waste of office hours. :)

Spike: Whee! Go, girl! What games are you gonna illustrate, then? :) Oh, and tat FFC entry... Disturbing. Nothing short of disturbing... And, incidentally, I'm not voting, because the only reference material I have to those shows would be the Muppet Show/South Park crossover... :|

Lynati: Valentine's PANTS? Hmmm... *Begins sharpening an unusually fancy-looking, glowing sword* You know, Gunjack, I ought to give you a present, as an apology for those puns... *Begins flipping through the Grimtooth Artifact Catalog.*

Gunjack: Very well, make it three this week... No, Four. *Grin* You are SO going to suffer when I get my hands, mecha claws or sai on you... ];) And that picture? Oooo, you're gonna get it... ];) Remember, by Illuminati High Command, I'm not only authorized, but ORDERED to Make Your Life Miserable. ];)

King Snarf: Well, Madoc's not really pure evil... Unless I'm mixing up the details here, he was the older brother, and thus he should have been the rightful heir to the rule of Avalon, not that runt Oberon.

Gside: I think you misunderstood me... My head will be Grimtooth-class soon. In the understanding that it will be a trap made to hurt, mutilate and, likely as not, kill any unwary tamperers. Not necessarily taking damage itself. As for the TV show characters, well, *Grin* perhaps ve should haff a toktor's appointment soon? ];)

Doug: Actually, I haven't really had much opportunity to play Hitman yet. Just took a glance at the Training bit, and watched a friend play while I was elsewhere occupied... with Deus Ex. Like the game, but it raises many questions. Such as "Where's the leak". ;) Oh, and may your wedding be wonderful, and your marriage calm. :)

Well, that's about it. Gotta scamper, gang. *Wanders off in search of a reasonably local metalsmith/jeweller...*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, February 2, 2001 06:21:52 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

Time for Part 2!

Stephen: Congrats on the new glasses, and good luck with the cold. Fighting those is always tedious for me too. <frown> Glad you were also pulling for the Ravens, like many of us in here.

Green Baron: Like I told Atilla, I'll pick up that letter tomorrow…er, later today now. :) After I sleep. You enjoy the Army now, hope it doesn't drive you too bonkers. I'll miss you and will see you when you get out of BT.

Pistoff: Welcome back! I missed you quite a bit. Nice W-related joyride- I may be hoping the guy will make a decent President, but I too can acknowledge he's not all good. Like everyone. :) You may be right about John Wayne, he was pretty much a character actor. Still a good one though, and one whose image I will continue to look up to all the days of my life. Especially the Preacher comics version. <grin> Glad your depression's eased up some. Also glad to see you've gentled down your posts a little, though I bet you're still nutty as ever at heart. :)

DPH: Those inconsistent hiring practices don't sound very good. I really hope this job you seem to want so much is worth it, what with all the crazy stuff related to getting it that's going on and all the screening they're putting you through. Best of luck getting the result you want, whatever that is. Happy Birthday too.

Lady Mystic: Thanks for making all those updates. Glad to see you back online. :)

Welcome Leopard and all other newcomers! Hope you enjoy this place.

Lady Corax: The past does indeed return to haunt us sometimes. Hope that you're enjoying new times with your old friends, and good luck avoiding those enemies. Don't worry, on a college campus, it's surprisingly easy to accomplish that. :) Congrats on the Elisa paper, hope you get a good grade.

SJ: Marilyn Manson as Willy Wonka? No, goddamn it, no!!! <shakes head> If Tim Burton maligns one of my favorite children's books that way, if he ruins a book I fully intend to read to my kids and educate them from, I will boycott his work forevermore. Same deal for the company that produces the film. I'm already boycotting Manson's work. Just the fact that he sees Willy Wonka as Satan is disturbing (he obviously hasn't really read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, or he'd know those kids were evil way before they ever met Wonka. And that he wanted them to be otherwise, and was very disappointed when they weren't). I hope that entertainment rumor you mentioned is nothing more. I also agree with you about Joe Liebermann, the guy is one of the many loser politicians who likes to blame TV shows and such for the actions of already-crazy people. Many like him exist, he just gets a lot of the attention. I hear he's apparently a really good man at heart, or I would have killed him off in the RP a while back. <shrugs> Maybe I'll have to, one of these days.

Coyote: Congrats on the Port Huron store opening, hope your job there works out as planned. $ We're finally gonna mention Minnesota's cold winter weather in the RP this post. :) $

Juliaexia: Damn! Kit covered my eyes! Do that flash again!! :) <does not notice Kit standing ready with a glum expression to cover his eyes again just in case>

Daniel: <nods> Mothers can drive you nuts that way alright. Even when they're the whole reason you're currently going nuts, they don't see it that way and they can make you even more insane just by explaining why. <shakes head> Best of luck dealing with yours, I hope you can reach some level of peace before too long.

King Snarf: I agree, TGS needs better villains!! I hope they're on the way soon. <fingers crossed>

Robby: <All that is coming and more…> It had sure better be. <grin> Congrats on getting back online, may your difficulties be done.

That's all the replies and comments for tonight, I am tired and must sleep. I have a day off tomorrow, so I can sleep in a little. <grins> But then of course I have to face all the family-related hassles in my life and try to get them solved while I have the time to worry about them. Day off…Yeah right. <sigh> See everyone again next time with a lot more comments. Later!

**RESUME RP, RAVENS' SAGA**

Inside the Mall of America, Leah, Tom, Mansfield, and Warfrost are moving slowly down a service corridor, the dire wolf's nose to the ground. "Hope we're getting close," Leah says as they turn a corner. Tom nods in agreement. "I wonder why she just ran off like that," he says. "Doesn't she know we're supposed to stay together?" There is a loud bellow from outside just then, shaking the Mall's foundations. "What in God's name is making that awful noise?!" Mansfield rants. "I don't know," Tom shrugs. "Let's let the others worry about it." There is a chorus of explosions and gunshots to punctuate his words. As Warfrost stops to sniff the air, Leah points down an adjoining hallway to where a wall is flowing back together. "Look, the place is still rebuilding itself. Our fighting did more damage to it than I thought." Tom nods. "Whatever's going on, it's probably going to take days to finish completely." "Oh, great!" Mansfield shouts just then, and the other two Ravens turn to see Warfrost looking towards a corridor that is blocked off by rubble a short distance away and barking loudly. "We're not going to get anywhere heading that way, boy," Tom says. "Are you sure that's where Winter went?" Warfrost barks and nods. "You two take the dog and find some way around it," Mansfield waves at them. "I'll stay here in case the rebuilding effect or whatever gets here soon- I'm tired." "We're all tired, Bobby," Leah snaps, but does not object as she and Tom walk off through a nearby door into the back of a shop, Warfrost following. Mansfield watches them go, then lets out a heavy sigh and sits down, scratching the back of his neck with one hand. After a few minutes, he takes a metal disk out of his pocket and breaks the plastic ball in its center, letting energy flow out and surge into him. After absorbing it, he grins and looks up, then gasps to find several figures standing over him, two with guns pointed at his face. "Well, what have we here?" Paul duGaul asks with a sneer. "A little Raven, all alone," Xothux says. Schaefer's eyes are wide, but he nods in agreement. "His skin's all sparkly," Claudia murmurs, seeing the energy flowing over Mansfield's face. "I wonder how he'll taste." Ty-Ubemngoe cracks his knuckles with a growl and the other damned souls ready themselves to attack. "Whoa, guys!" Mansfield waves at them in a peaceful gesture. "You don't have to…" "Stop!" Kharsus shatters the moment just then, and all eyes turn to face him as he strokes his beard thoughtfully. "He needs to feed off energy in special cells every so often to sustain his special powers- that's what Edison told me. My friends, I think we've just found our spy."

Meanwhile, outside the Mall on top of one of its parking garages, Senon Rodriguez curses loudly as he reloads his hunting rifle. "This time I will get that <bleep>ing <bleep>!" he declares, looking down to where Kit is staring at Anthony in surprise as he helps her get up. "Reject my god<bleep>ed perfection, will she? I try to get a little god<bleep>ed fun out of an otherwise very boring and tedious job, and she…" "Was expecting you to act like a normal salesman does to his customers with her?" Doug interrupts, reaching the top of the stairs behind Senon just then and stepping forward with shotgun in hand. Boris and Tricia are just behind him, both breathing heavily as they move to cover the jerk's flanks. Doug is breathing a bit heavily from the run up the stairs too, but cold rage dominates his face. "Hello, 120," Senon snarls, bringing up his rifle to aim at Doug's chest. "I see you're still dating that weird loser <bleep>." "Yeah, I guess I am," Doug shrugs. "But she must be better to hang around than whoever you're married to…" He looks at the jerk's WalMart badge. "…Assistant Manager with 5 yrs. Experience Senon. And my name's Doug, by the way. I'm not a number." "To me, you're even less," Senon replies coldly. "I was running the business the way I liked, making people jump to my orders, but you hardly even acknowledged my authority. You just rode around in your cart and grinned smugly, sure you were doing a good job no matter what anyone thought." Tricia and Boris look at Doug, who shakes his head at them. They nod, but keep Senon covered nonetheless. "I only acknowledge authority I can respect," Doug tells Senon. "I don't think you count." "You…!" Senon starts to shout, but Doug cuts him off by firing his gun, hitting the jerk in the chest and knocking him back to fall six stories to the ground. There is another loud scream as Senon hits the bushes next to where he parked his motorcycle. "One sniper dethroned," Doug grimaces. "Very nice," Tricia compliments him. "But um, I think he's still alive down there." "We have larger problems," Boris says, pointing at the Goroistro demon, which is now walking amongst the National Guardsmen, trampling them like ants as their bullets bounce off its thick hide and their grenades fail to faze it in the least. Doug nods in agreement, looking towards the Onslaught as Jammer starts its motor with a mighty rumble. In seconds, the truck cab has split off from its trailer and is transforming into its robotic warrior mode. "Our truck can do that?" Doug's mouth falls open as he watches. "Yeah," Boris says with a smile. "Ain't it cool? I'm just glad we had Wilek do that anti-freeze treatment on it, it's pretty cold out here." "It is," Tricia agrees, looking up to where Elena is flying towards Geburah like an angry flashing torpedo. The cornugon does not seem to have noticed her yet, watching the carnage below him with glee. On the ground below, Senon rises to his feet with a volley of groans and curses, immediately stumbling towards his motorcycle. Shap, Shauna, and Kit are all still looking towards Anthony for an explanation of how he is uninjured when they clearly saw a bullet hit him. As the screen goes blank, snow starts falling from the sky overhead.

**BATTLE OF THE TITANS IN A BLIZZARD COMING NEXT WEEK. END RP**

Doug
Friday, February 2, 2001 02:44:31 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.59.dlls.grid.net

**RP NOW, CATCHING UP THE BAD GUYS AGAIN**

In his spacious office, Ted Turner is doing a conference call with Jan and Paul, the leaders of the Ultra-Puritan Christian Movement ($ I forgot the real name of their organization- I was expecting GB to finish them off, so I didn't note it. The UPCM will do for this scene). "So all our assets in Russia have been completely eradicated?" he says in utter disbelief. "There's still David Duke," Jan says. "He's working very hard at keeping racism alive and well in that country." "But he doesn't have very much of the population on his side yet," Paul grimaces. "And we predict it will take him some time to…" "I do not trust that man," Turner interrupts. "His loyalty is to his own twisted and insane view of the world, not our cause. Do we have anyone else?" Jan and Paul grimace and look at each other. "Well?" Turner asks. "No," Jan sighs. "No one," Paul confirms. Turner nods. "I see. Oh well, Russia was never a very important part of the plan anyway. As long as we take control of America, it will not matter what happens in that part of the world. I regret losing our influence, but it can't be helped now. At least we're on track here." "That's good to hear," Jan says. "Yes," Paul agrees. "Do you want us to come back to America and help you?" "Maybe in a few weeks," Turner replies, his expression somewhat disturbed. "First of all, what about Benny Hinn? Where is he?" "We haven't seen him since he disappeared in Russia, sir," Jan says. "The Green Baron may have gotten him," adds Paul. "We'll try and find out for sure if you like." "I already have someone working on that," Turner replies. "Don't worry about it. Just keep managing our European operations for now. Ted out." He hangs up his end of the call and then turns to a portly figure in an orange suit and wide-brimmed hat standing near the desk. "They failed. Those two are useless." "I agree," the Orange Duke says in a deep voice, his face hidden beneath the shadow of his hat. "I shall take care of them." He vanishes from the room without fanfare. "Thank you," Turner says, about to go back to his notes when his phone rings. "Yes?" he picks it up and says. "Ted, it's Geoffrey," Geoffrey Fieger chuckles from the other end. "The team and I have found Asil's location. We're moving in right now." "IP address of the satellite feed?" Turner asks, and Fieger gives it. The demonic media mogul grins evilly and brings it up onto his computer screen.

The display changes to show Abdullah, Tariq, Jazeem, and two terrorist soldiers dashing into a large bedroom, the last man slamming the door behind him as the three slave-girls waiting on the bed scream in surprise. "Silence!" Abdullah barks at them, setting his laptop computer down on a desk and grimacing as he looks at the screen. "What's going on?" Tariq gestures at the soldiers to cover the room's exits and then walks over. "It looks like Apep's automatic self-defense programs are kicking in thanks to the enemy attacking him," Abdullah's lieutenant tells him after looking at the screen. "He should have their army wiped out soon." "What about the enemy in my very house?!" Abdullah fumes. "Do you really want Apep to destroy your mansion trying to kill them?" Tariq asks. "We built him to be an overkill weapon, remember?" Abdullah growls, then considers the point and nods. "You're right. He can have the army. But as for Fasil and his disgraceful family and friends…" "I will take care of them!" Jazeem cuts in with a laugh, flexing his fingers. "They can not stand up to my magic! Even with one hand's fingers not in full working order, I can still…" "Fine!" Abdullah waves him on. "Go!" Jazeem chuckles, nods thankfully, and then rushes out. "He should keep them busy for a while at least," Abdullah tells Tariq as the door slams. "Now there is no way for Apep's sentient mind to override his body's automatic programming, correct?" "There should not be," Tariq nods. "If Tyler did his job." "If," Abdullah agrees, staying ready at the keyboard just in case. The soldiers continue to divide their attention between the room's exits and the three girls, who are directing sullen glares at Abdullah and his men. Tariq smiles at the looks as he walks to the room's one window and looks out over the cliff face, seeing nothing of interest. "All the action is on the other side of the mansion," he notes. "Good." As he turns away, a black-clad figure standing at a window just above them smiles as he ties off a rappelling line and readies himself to leap while the screen fades out.

**COMING SOON- ASIL TAKES ON THE PLANETEERS, AND GUBIO GOES INSIDE THE MIND OF A DRAGON. END RP**

<walks in with a very tired look on his face> Hello everyone. I look this way thanks to a week full of heavy work coupled with Mom and Dad both bugging me about the house and the wedding. Mom thinks she needs to recommend good building inspectors to Kit and me, Dad thinks we shouldn't have bought the house in the first place. Mom wants to completely organize Kit's and my wedding for us, Dad wants me to call the whole thing off- he's practically demanding it. One of my parents wants to manage my life for me, the other wants me to be in a rut forever- both think I'm still their little kid whose affairs they can screw with. <growls> If they bug me any more tomorrow I'm going to tell them exactly how I feel about this- it'll probably get Dad even angrier but at least it'll make Mom get off my case for a little while. :) My workload this week has been heavy as well, I finally have the day off tomorrow. Thanks to us having to let Mike Hernandez go due to the negative background check Kit told y'all about, I've had to pull a double and then four days straight of normal shifts without my normal days off of Monday and Tuesday. Things will be back to normal next week thanks to our two new hires (who both seem pretty good), thankfully. What irks me is the big shock of Mike's negative background check- he never once acted like a criminal. Instead he was a very diligent responsible officer, way better at his job than many people with clean backgrounds I could name. I wish the law would let us forget his past. <sigh> But it won't, so things have to be this way. At least work's been quiet pretty much. Somebody did kidnap someone in the parking lot yesterday, and I was on the other side of the building at the time so I couldn't intervene. But a customer did get the bad guy's car's plate number, and called the APD, who ran the number and were waiting when the bad guy returned home with his victim or so I read in the paper today- he was arrested, she was released. I am amazed but not surprised to learn that technology helps cops be able to work so fast. <grin> Not much else going on, the house has still not been delivered to the property. I hope it will be soon. On to replies now.

Wilek: I share your hopes about the Seven Deadly Sins- they better get put in maximum security this time. That'll give them something to whine about. :( <He's insane, just like the rest of us. He just hides it very well> Todd is insane? I don't believe it. :)

DumlaoX: Electronics Boutique, huh? Well, I'm sure that's a nice job, even if most of the people I know who have it here in town are little more than annoying salesmen, as you put it. I didn't know about the take games home perk though, that sounds pretty cool. Bet you're getting to try out some real nice games that way. <Dreamcast> I like the price drop they've done on it. If they come out with a few more cool games I may just get me a system. :) I have to confess I'm looking forward to good computer games coming out this year more though. Duke Nukem Forever and Warcraft 3 top the list. The real gem, though, is gonna be Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. My mouth fell open when I caught the promo of that game from E3 online, and damn if it still isn't on the floor! :)

Christine: I agree that you should go ahead and read Black Roses- your readings at the Gatherings I attended were pretty good. If that's what it takes to get the book out on time, do it. Waiting for Lunar 2 to get released and now waiting for its strategy guide to come out, seeing their release dates pushed back again and again, has taught me just how much I am driven nuts by waiting for cool stuff. And I'm sure your book will be cool. <laughs> Glad you've already set things up to do it, hope it goes well. Thanks for the housewarming congrats, hope they can soon be given in truth. Looking forward to the next issue of Sabledrake Mag.

Warpmind: So I'm not the only one enjoying Hitman Codename 47? :) Apart from the last couple levels, and the plot the game doesn't really need, I agree it's a great piece of work. The drug dealer level is my favorite, just cause I really don't like drug dealers. :) Thanks for the wedding idea, but I don't really want to go through two ceremonies. Kit and I are leaning towards a Baptist one right now so we can have a local preacher whose services we often attend perform it- Shap knows the guy as a good friend, and he is our best man. I don't know if the folks will go for that though. <grimaces> At least they're not as bad about the wedding as some people. If I have to listen to my sister Sarah complain about not getting picked for a bridesmaid and remind her Kristen asked first, while there was a position still open, I am going to scream. :(

Jaden: What your twin did concerning his wedding sounds like a good idea. I think Kit and I will try it. Thanks very much. :) Congrats to your sister on starting college, I couldn't believe it when mine started either. :) Time goes so fast.

CTS: Thanks, David G and Katara, for mentioning the symptoms of this condition. I've been worried about it for a while now. I'll probably get it someday from typing and driving so much, but I'm glad I don't have it now. :) Thanks for your CTS prevention tips (which I'm following) and your congrats also, Katara. Don't worry, we understand your brain being slow thanks to all the stuff going on in your life.

Spike: Condolences on your CTS, I didn't know you had it. Sounds like you got good treatment, that's a small blessing. :) I'll make sure to follow your tips on avoiding and treating the condition too.

Mary: Only $100 of damage from the wreck? That's good. My personal minimum is $350. When I wreck a car, I tend to wreck it pretty bad. <sighs> Condolences on Joseph wanting to be just friends, that's unfortunate. You had such high hopes, didn't you? :( Just wait, though, I'm sure your prince will come. Have faith in it. Thanks for the review of Save The Last Dance, Kit and I may check it out along with Head Over Heels and Valentine this weekend. Thanks also for mentioning that book full of German swear words. I might have to check it out (I already know how to curse in English, Chinese, and Russian. German would be nice to know, too. <grin>). Congrats on the writing award too.

Condolences to everyone who's had recent Net problems- Robby, Lynati, and Gunjack especially. <punishes DC on behalf of everyone by throwing him into a pit full of rabid female dingoes in heat> Lynati, I liked your little intro to coming back online. :) Glad you're all back in here now, congratulations on being so, and if you're not back online yet, well, you better be able to come back soon. <gestures at his thugs to be ready to grab DC when he eventually climbs out of the pit and put him in an electric chair just in case>

Daphne: You think "Disturbed Heroes" sounds interesting, huh? Well, maybe I'll pick up the project someday when I have time then. Fans of Venom, Girl Interrupted, and The Rock will appreciate the effort, I'm sure. (And don't worry, Mason, Jade, and Staci won't be the only characters from The Rock to show up in the series. I'm also planning on having Stanley Goodspeed show up in at least one episode, as well as Womack in two or three. Paxton will be a primary antagonist, so will a couple of psycho Marines who managed to survive the movie and want revenge on the old man who knocked them out and killed their friends.) <chuckles> So many ideas in this head. I just have to get them out and find a place to put them. (GFW doesn't fit Disturbed Heroes unfortunately. It's not that much to do with Gargoyles even though it is distantly connected to my Eternal Quest -verse. I also need a better title for the series- anyone have suggestions?) Thanks for your interest, maybe one day it will spring fruit. <Canticle for Leibowitz> Like Atilla said, check that book out. I read it three years ago and was bowled over by the excellent imagery, writing, and characterization. Cool dark depiction of history too. I intend to buy a copy and reread the book real soon.

Rev. Atilla: I too hope the commute from our new house won't be too bad. I tested it out shortly after I saw the property, just in case, and it was alright except for a couple of heavily trafficked highway intersections. Of course that is for my current job. I hope it will be better or equally good for when I'm in the APD, if living out of town doesn't keep me from getting that occupation (and if it does, well, there are always alternatives- State Trooper or small-town cop is just as good as big-city cop, though I would like to start off my law enforcement in the big city. <grin>). Thanks for your congrats. I hope to pick up your owner Green Baron's letter tomorrow, hope he doesn't mind me and Kit offing a few of his characters in next week's RP.

GXB: Don't worry, I've no reason to bash Kurt Cobain. The idiot kids who killed themselves to copycat him because they thought he cared about them when he didn't even know them are another story. <sigh> Arseface was the only good thing to come out of that madness.

SOROW: Like everyone's been saying, good luck with your dance recital audition. I too hope you will make it. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't hope you end up at UT too. <grin> But wherever you do decide to go to college, I'm sure it'll be the best place for you. Just remember, freshmen bunking in the football stadium and clocks all over campus set to different times are extremely bad signs (LSU hopefully has fixed those problems by now, but you never know…). Big congrats on the photo award.

Zeta Project: I too was impressed with this show for reasons Todd and Kit have already mentioned. If they keep up the good plots, characterization, and dialogue it's definitely going to be a classic. Zeta and Ro make a great duo, with an entertaining relationship (the cockroach scene was especially so :). All the neat future technology in the show is also cool. :)

Lain: <smiles> Glad to see you've decided to be yourself rather than what other people think you should. That will make you extremely happy, believe you me. I agree that this feminine stuff is nutty- tomboyish modern women like Kit have always interested me more. Glad you're rejecting the so-called feminine image too. :) Congrats also on maintaining such a good relationship with your dad, you have my envy. <sigh> On women with muscle mass, well, heavily buffed-up babes aren't my type. But a trim toned physique like Kit or Sarah Michelle Gellar has…that does something for me. <grin> Thanks for making me scratch my head in confusion by mentioning your weird and disturbing dream. Lastly, congrats on making it into the military and qualifying for any field you want. May you and GB be fighting for peace back to back on the same battlefield someday. Kit and I will be close by you. :)

SJ: I'm Johnny Patriot too, but I still like to listen to Rage. Especially when Kit's there to point out the fallacies in their lyrics with back-talk. <grins> Glad we were both cheering for the Ravens.

Tim Phipps: I agree, the Green Party wants the United States to become a weakling anarchy where criminals won't get exactly what they deserve, we'll spend all our time paying off the mistakes our ancestors made and punishing the successful among us while the rest of the world embroils itself in petty wars we could have stopped, and we'll be forced to live with communism and crazy double standards. Is this politics or lunatics? Looks like the latter to me. Thank goodness most people in this country seem to concur. :)

Winterwolf: You walked away from that? Congrats. You're tougher than I thought. :) Glad you still have the tooth.

Survivor: Paying no attention to this, again. I'm not interested. I do hear the critics think the thrill's gone from it though. IMO, it was never there in the first place. What is so interesting about a bunch of stupid nutty people in a rigged environment we think they're having to work hard to survive in when they're really not because it's televised scheming against one another and pissing each other off for large sums of cash? I'll take my occasionally crazy but usually boring life over that any day, thank you. :)

Gunjack: You're right, that is a moral imperative. I should have thought about things that way. <sighs> Oh well. Like Kit said, we've already axed Matthew McConaghey in the RP. But maybe we'll do it again someday just for fun. That guy is one of the three people who live in Austin I wouldn't mind killing brutally in RL if I could get away with it (the other two being Kinky Friedman and Leslie Cochran, our resident homeless drag queen who spends his time doing nothing but lying around on the street badmouthing the APD for telling him to get a job and a normal life, and earns fame for it. <growls>).

**TGS SPOILER WARNINGS**
Thicker Than Blood I have mixed feelings about. I enjoyed the general plot, the action sequences, and the dialogue. Very good emotional displays from the characters in most instances, and Todd did a good job bringing the vampire mythos into the TGS-verse. However, I missed illustrations and character development a lot, we didn't really seem to get any of either. The story's events took place, but no one was really affected by them in a major way (apart from Vince, whose feelings about the various events weren't really dealt with, so I can't say he counts). The villains in this story were also tiresome, Margo especially so. There's got to be more to her than a crazed yuppie bitch who blames everything bad in her life on the gargoyles. There's also got to be more to Vlad than a centuries-old vampire with a God complex who would prefer the world still be the way it was when he got turned. And more to his manservant than a dour Garlon wannabe. And more to Imre and Mikeala than a couple of young teenage vamps who think it's cool to scare people and suck blood. And more to Elizabeth…the idea is being gotten, right? I'm glad the TGS staff is not copying Buffy with its vampires, but it'd be good to give them the same depth of character and interesting personalities Buffy's vamps and most Gargoyles villains have. That seemed to be lacking unfortunately. :( The plot of this ep was also more than a bit weakened, I felt, by relying too much on convenient coincidences and predictable events, especially when it came to witty banter between villain and hero leading to villain's escape at the end. Make things more realistic next time, please! And also, Todd, saying a story with vampires had to be done and mentioning all the reasons why doesn't help- there's a difference between doing a story because you have to and doing it because it's the right set of events that should happen in the ficverse next. If you just do a story because you have to, if you write its events in a way that has to happen with results that _have_ to turn out the way they must, well, it shows. In this story, IMO it showed bigtime. That's why it's best to just let a story write itself, I always say. Events flow better that way, and are more believable. Still, this week's was good in its way. I wish more real progress had been made with the clan's relationship with humanity and character development, but the introduction of the vampires was done alright considering the circumstances and I enjoyed the subtle hints at future plotlines and the Dracon bits (he's a disturbing jerk, but such people can be entertaining at times. It was a bit disappointing how he was more so than the new villains, though). Hopefully the writing will improve next week and we'll get some pictures.
**TGS SPOILERS END, SO DOES PART 1**

Doug - [DougElder21@yahoo.com]
Friday, February 2, 2001 02:44:01 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.59.dlls.grid.net

Warpmind> <<He's managed to get me addicted to not one, but TWO webcomics this week>>: Which two? I'm already addicted to mst of the major ones and a good number of the minor ones, so it's pretty much morbid curiosity.
<<what purpose did you have in mind>>: None explicitly, but it is always a good thing to make sure any object soon to be destroyed Grimtoothily would be of no use. And besides empty containers make the rest recepticles for various and nefarious purposes.
<<Enough of those testes, alright already>>: Old joke: I once had a teacher who called quizes quizicles. I feared the day of our first test.
I promised this a while back, but now I give you my opinions on the characters you created for that TV series. You have a very good mix here, with some nice personality and motivation extrapolations. And for some reason I keep thinking it's James Rutger. What? I'm an engineer, I never said I would be eloquent and/or verbose.

Good luck CSH.

Lain> <<lain, a frood who REALLY knows where her towel is>>: Where? Mine's around 4.272 yards at an angle of 20.556 degrees to the front of my left axis.

Gunjack> <<and a real post later>>: Heh.
<<We haven't even gotten to Elflife and CRFH and Roomies>>: Now known as It's Walky. And no mention of Sluggy, Shinku, Narbonic, Adventurers (and RPGWorld), BBoCS, PCC, MT, LoF, Beta, AR, LL, RL, LG...?
Yes, I know what all the acronyms are for, and I use them for my bookmarks.

Happy 24th birthday (?), DPH.

Congratulations CtB.

Danile Johnson> May your days only improve.

Winterwolf> <<So was your b-day everything is was supposed to be?>>: Not quite, but I have no real reason to complain.
<<Hope you got all the good stuff>>: The problem with a birthday a month after Christmas is that everyone is fed up with shopping, and your wish list has already been half gone through.

Robby> <<All that is coming and more>>: Good to heag, good to hear...

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, February 2, 2001 12:58:20 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Grrrrnnnnfff! I was planning to write up a big post with replies and a Joyride, but RL had other plans. Last night my ISP crapped out on me, and I had to go sign up with a new one. So I was without internet access until about 5:00 this evening. I'll be adding my old ISP to my list of Joyride targets...

Anyhow, my new email address is below.

Still got a ton of stuff to catch up on. Real post as soon as possible...

Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Friday, February 2, 2001 12:06:28 AM
IP: ppp112-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Oii, everytime I find a method to post, it seems to stop working almost immediatley... Ah well, hopefully this service will be stable... If it is, I will attempt to get back into a regular posting schedule. (But between school, work, some freelance stuff, and Babylon 5, I just have absolutley *NO* freetime. As usual I suppose...)

Current gargoyles season... You want internal conflict? Complex villains? More screen time for Lex and Hudson? Demona to be redeemed a little less easily? *Laughs maniacly in the dark* All that is coming and more...

Robby
Thursday, February 1, 2001 11:43:11 PM
IP: ac996573.ipt.aol.com

Hi!

Gside> So was your b-day everything is was supposed to be? Hope you got all the good stuff! ;)

Caliope> **HUGZ** So you are like Tess? **laughs** I'll keep that in mind. ;P

Two enthusiastic welcome backs to Starsinger and Pistoff! :D

SOROW> ^_^ Yippie!

Daniel Johnson> I hope you have a better tomorrow.

I have some more info on the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Maybe you'll just dismiss me as a conservationist and just say these are ramblings. Well I said I wasn't finished so you get more info if you care to read it.

******WARNING THIS MAY BE CONSIDERED POLITICAL******

Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, President Bush's signature energy cause, would do next to nothing if not nothing to generate electricity for California suffering from an energy crisis. It wouldn't even produce any oil for an estimated 10 years with current standards and technology for oil retrieval. While government estimates of "technically recoverable" oil in the coastal plain run as high as 14 billion barrels (this is extremely optimistic), the amount of "economically recoverable" oil at today's prices - the only figure the oil industry itself pays any attention to - is a little over three million barrels. That is about six months' supply for the nation.

Less than 1 percent of California's electricity comes from oil. California's fuel of choice is natural gas. A prime location to tap for energy is Alaska's North Slope, which includes far bigger proven natural gas reserves than even the most optimistic estimates for the coastal plain. Another fine location is the National Petroleum Reserve, to the west of Prudhoe Bay, where former Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt made available over four million acres for leasing.

To date, the oil and gas companies have shown little interest in the reserve and no interest in investing in the necessary infrastructure to transport natural gas from the North Slope. Why clamor for access to the refuge at a time when they have barely begun to tap the significant resources in areas of far less ecological value?

The proceeding information is supported by government studies.

******END WARNING******

That's all for me for now. Bye!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Thursday, February 1, 2001 11:13:45 PM
IP: 1cust11.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net

Sev Jr: I would love to see Wonka directed by Tim Burton, but Johnny Depp would HAVE to play the lead. They just work magic together. I really believe that Burton wanted Depp as the Batman.

Something I've noticed: TGS doesn't have really great, intriguing villains. Maybe it's just me. But let's look at the status of villains from the original series...

Demona: Reformed
Macbeth: Reformed
Coldstone: Reformed, no longer 3 people, no longer a cyborg
Xanatos: Reformed
Fox: Reformed
Coldsteel: MIA
Fang: Looked like he'd reform, but currently MIA
Jason Canmore: Reformed & crippled
Jon Castaway Canmore: Nuthouse
Robyn Canmore: Prison, I guess
Sevarius: MIA
Thailog: Horribly disfigured, MIA right now (he should be a MAJOR player)
The Pack: It's gotten old...
Tony Dracon: Has he really done anything villainous, lately?
Archmage: Dead
And so on...

Now, let's look at the new villains for TGS...
Madoc: Kinda one-dimensional. Oh, he's pure evil! Come on, no villain is pure evil in GARGOYLES.
Tommy Kimura: *Yawn*
Vlad Tepes: I'll hold off on judgement on this one, as I haven't finished reading the new ep yet. But he seems like your typical Stoker/Rice Vampire.

And that's it! C'mon, where are the emotionally complex villains we love to hate? To be honest, I haven't really seen anything of the sort yet. That's not to say I haven't enjoyed TGS; it's been great! But there's something missing.

What do you guys think?

Matt "King Snarf" Maybray - [m5maybray@Juno.com]
Drexel Hill, PA, USA
Thursday, February 1, 2001 10:28:26 PM
IP: a030-0622.phl2.splitrock.net

Thanks to all who congratulated me on my picture. It was quite a surprise :) This will be my last post before my dance auditions, so thank you to all who have supported me and I'll try not to let you down. I love you all!
SOROW
Thursday, February 1, 2001 10:12:49 PM
IP: a010-0078.dll2.splitrock.net

Gathering 2001 Contest Announcement:

The deadline for mini-poster entries has been EXTENDED to February 14. Also, there's been a minor revision in the guidelines for entries. Artists may now use characters from the show as well as original characters or our mascot.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled comment room.

Patrick Toman
Thursday, February 1, 2001 10:10:46 PM
IP: aca2c10e.ipt.aol.com

Lynati:
*Chuckle* Thanks, I needed a good laugh. :)

I'm not really in the mood to post much tonight. My mother said things to me today that were...painful. First, she pleaded with me to take her home and then she practically accused me of abandoning her. She thinks that everything will be fine again if she's home. She said that she would still be home if she hadn't given the house to me, and now she wishes she hadn't. *Cringe* I KNOW that none of this is true, but when your own mother accuses you of such things, you can't help feel like a monster. It's times like this that I feel so alone...

Please don't be worried by how despondent that might sound. I'm OK, really. I just needed to talk about it, I guess. Of course, if it wasn't for Prozac, I'd probably be curled up in the corner sobbing right now. Well, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?

I don't know when/if I'll get caught up on posts since there's been so many the past couple of days, so please accept my apologies if I don't respond to any posts directed to me.

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, February 1, 2001 09:21:04 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**juliaexia enters slyly...looks about....good, everybody is watching. she turns her back to the on lookers and buries herself in her trench coat....she counts to three....takes a huge breath, spins around whipping her coat open**
I FLASH YOU ALL!!!!! SPOOOOOOONN!!!!! (that's for all you tick fans out there)
*runs away giggling hysterically*

juliaexia
ugabooga, ugalaboogala
Thursday, February 1, 2001 08:13:22 PM
IP: dynrez217-32-81.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

**enters and takes a deep breath**

Whoo boy ... this is gonna take a while ...

First off ... yes, go vote at Fanart Fight Club this month! I have an entry up, too. :)

**tips black promotional hat (spark plugs, really) to Pistoff and Starsinger** Welcome back, guys.

XenaTrek: Yep, I'd imagine limiting and monitoring on-line time is mostly so that the government can make sure you're not wasting government time. :)

Milady Corax: "Queen of the Strip" it is. :) And I'm glad you enjoyed the fudge. How'd your roomie like it? ;)

Just caught the "Sundance" luxury challenge on Survivor II ... whoo boy, that looks like fun!!!!

Job update: I was told by the District Manager that the Port Huron store is due to open at the beginning of April. And I have pretty much his assurances that I'M GOIN' UP THERE!! *Finally* I get something I *want* from this bloody company!

SJ: Uhmm ... I have to agree on your Wonka bit wholeheartedly ... except for one part: I can't stand Marilyn Manson. ;)

Looks like that's all for me tonight ... **turns around to watch the rest of Survivor**

Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, February 1, 2001 07:56:54 PM
IP: 216.28.101.132

**DPH makes final preparations by double-checking his holographic projectors and double checking the images they will display. He, also, rechecks the timers on the fireworks.**

The idiot is griping because people are calling his cell phone when I am online. Sheesh, when I go full-time, I may have to have my own phone line just to keep him quiet.

I will give a clue about my age. Two years ago, the sum of the digits of my age equaled the product of the digits of the month and day I was born.

-1+-1=-2 0+0=0 1+1=2 3+3=6 4+4=8 5+5=10

One again, I post riddles. If I seem enormously self-centered more than normal, well there might be a reason behind it.

Hehehehe.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, February 1, 2001 07:07:25 PM
IP: max1-29.cwy.cei.net

*Lynati enters, carrying a large bucket*
* She proceeds to lift said bucket, filled with metallic blue, heavily-leaded paint, and dump it over Daniel Johnson's head*

Warpmind, lain, V :...Why? What did you think I meant? ;)
oh- my computer must have made an evil pact with Mutant Enemy, lain, because it won't let me sign in to msn. I'm on the school computers right now. I'll keep trying, tho.
and Valentine *sweetly* I believe you owe Warps a description of a certain garg picture you recently received...hmmm...actually, why don't you just send him the pic, and describe what else you saw last night? *evil chuckle*
lain, methinks V will soon have a date with a large knife.
I hope you restocked the bandaids.

*Flows out through the curtains, laughing softly.*
Lynati
Thursday, February 1, 2001 06:59:03 PM
IP: 208.12.249.253

*******TWO PEICES OF USELESS INFORMATION FOR GUNJACK********
To be caught with one's pants down:
When such a respectable family publication as THE SATURDAY EVENING POST gives its sanction to this homely American expression, notice of its origin may proporly be taken. Despite the fact that the appearence of the phrase in the POST is its first in print (1946), in all likelihood its popular usage goes back at least a hundred years.
Likely, its first incarnation was, "caught with one's breeches down"; but the expression was not considered appropriate to appear in print.
The figurative meaning, of course, is to be taken completely by surprise; to be wholly unprepared. But the literal meaning probably goes back to the days when white frontiersmen were exposed to terrible peril were their muskets not at hand. Even at the risk of death, the wants of nature must be met.. and in such circumstances, a lurking native could indeed catch one in a state of embarassing unpreparedness..

to go off half-cocked:
This is what is said in America; the British equivalent is "to go off half cock" or "half cock". Either way the meaning is to speak or do something hastily, without propor preparation, prematurely. The original reference, back in the middle of the eighteenth century, was to the musket which, if the hammer was cocked halfway, was supposed to be locked, safe against accidednal discharge. But sometimes the mechanism was faulty, the hammer would be released and the gun would be prematurely discharged, with the musketeer wholly unprepared. The thought has been expressed that the allusion is to what happens to a hunter, excited upon seeing his quarry, attempts to shoot his gun without releasing the trigger from the safety position while it is still half-cocked; hence that he was unprepared. But such a reasoning seems faulty for, as nothing would happen, the gun could not be said to "go off".

*****END TWO PIECES OF USELESS INFORMATION FOR GUNJACK*****

;)
love,

lain, 10111
the Great White North, where men are men and sheep are scared..
Thursday, February 1, 2001 06:06:02 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

KIRSHANTA - The reason why we had vampires show up in TGS was:

1. Vampires and Dracula were mentioned a few times in the original television series, and when mythological/legendary elements get mentioned in "Gargoyles" (such as the Loch Ness Monster or the Illuminati), they show up sooner or later; it's one of the ways that the series worked,

and:

2. We specifically mentioned in Season Two that vampires were Madoc's first-draft attempt at creating "Unseelie halflings", which meant that we'd have to deal with those first-draft attempts.

The vampires were NOT inserted into TGS as a means of cashing in on the popularity of "Buffy".

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, February 1, 2001 06:05:31 PM
IP: 216.87.46.151.dialup-stl.primary.net

(hugged by Caliope)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Thursday, February 1, 2001 04:18:32 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-130-120.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

David G < Yeah Ok - Maybe she's acting. Maybe she even has herself convinced. So what. A lot of AA's convince themselves they don't need alcohol and they stop.
And yes, a particularly strong emotional incident WILL in fact send them right back to the bottle, just as another betrayal would send Demona back over the edge.
However, she made it this far - I think she can come back.

And 3 years is NOT that rushed for someone's personality to change. With the right motivation, a person can change in less than a year - we all know people who've done it. Does it last? Well that all depends on the person... Or the gargoyle.

Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 03:50:12 PM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

OK - sorry for the multiple posts but I can't seem to send in more than a certain amount at a time and I have a lot to say (don't I always). Hopefully this is the last one...

Todd < Good idea for the mossoleum (Although I still don't agree with the decision to go with vamps as villains).
As for Demona's betrayal being spawned from revenge, yes, it was. Get turned away and treated like worthless trash long enough, and you develop such a huge inferiority complex that you have no choice but to go on a power trip (its the logical way of things). And that power trip spawns revenge. TRUST ME - I KNOW.


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 03:49:40 PM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

Ok - I feel a little better.

Gside < LEX NEEDS MORE AIR TIME > Yeah, I agree. So does Hudson and Bonx. And how about the clones and the Labyrinth dwellers. Or Delilah. Or Alexander and Puck. A lot of people need more air-time, which they are not going to get if all these new plotlines and bad guys keep intruding. How about some internal conflict for once? All the ingredients are there...


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 03:46:26 PM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

** Kirshanta re-enters **

Alright - I found the drool-babe.

Sevarius Jr. < Marilyn Manson as Willy Wonka? With Tim Burton as producer. Talk about your Nightmare before Wonka. Seriously - that goes against all the moral values that story tries to bring forth. How can they even entertain such a notion?? That is actually quite disturbing.
** Kirshanta retreats into a corner, unfurls her silver wings and throwing her head back, lets out an anguished howl ***


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 03:37:57 PM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

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Anonymous
Thursday, February 1, 2001 03:13:57 PM
IP: hse-montreal-ppp101262.sympatico.ca

Hi.
Just lurking for now...
In case anyone was wondering...
Doubtful, but I can always hope. ^_~

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Thursday, February 1, 2001 02:36:43 PM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

*Valentine crunches through the CR wall in his Gunsuit, and tromps over to his desk*

Two quick replies, and a real post later. No, really, I PROMISE!

Lain><<I have a certain somebody in mind who might like to be included on the BAD end of a joyride...>> *Valentine snaps his fingers, and Kodama begin breaking out his heavy weapon collection* Lain, Pisstoff, all I need is the time and place.

Warpmind><<That's it. I am going to brutally murder Gunjack Valentine. My reason? He's managed to get me addicted to not one, but TWO webcomics this week. ;)>> You're forgetting that it's only thursday, 'Mano... We haven't even gotten to Elflife and CRFH and Roomies, not to mention Fans and Angst Technology and GPF and... *cackles evilly*

*tromps back out muttering about pants and can openers*

Gunjack "my life is a Jerry Springer episode" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Armed with a ninja sword and Moral Outrage
Thursday, February 1, 2001 02:35:25 PM
IP: 216-146-183-1.bwn.net

***Kyryn looks in.***

Spike> That's.....just....wrong. That's all I can say about it. *grin*

SJ><**SJ’s lips move like they do in a poorly dubbed Japanese movie** INDEED! Sorry about that, but I can think of a couple people now who get that joke. ;) > ***Kyryn's lips also move out of sync with the voiceover.*** AHA! YOU MUST DIE NOW, YOU WESTERN SCUM! ***return to normal commenting** LOL!

Later all!

***Kyryn ducks out.***

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, February 1, 2001 01:45:07 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Hey guys!!!! ^_~

In here for a quick lil post!

Mary> Ah! Strings! Thats it! Yum! :P

Gunjack> <<Serial Experiment Lain>> lol Its suposed to be unclear and ambigous silly! I think the Japanise are VERY talented if they can manege to play with your head like that, they are truly genies, dont you think? :P But realy, the most disturbing parts are the teddy PJ's and the family diners...those just creap me out :P

Sevarious Jr.> Ok, the New Wonka movie freaks me out. I could MAYBE see Manson as an Umpaloompa, but NOT as Wonka himself! Oh, and I like Farscape!! Its realy cool, I especialy enjoy John's little maniacle laugh, but I must ask, Erin CANT die, can she? No, she CANT! I'm tellin' ya, they froze her up, they'll bring her back, right? RIGHT?!?! Tell me I'm right man!!!!

Eeee I gotta go! I'll se ya guys!!!! *HUGZ all and scuttles out*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 12:35:18 PM
IP: 136.145.83.179

oh.. and one more thing..
Warpmind gave me the idea..

Pistoff>> I have a certain somebody in mind who might like to be included on the BAD end of a joyride.. and I think I know a few certain somebodys in here in the CR who might like to help in the joyride.. they be most especially Green Baron and Gunjack Valentine but also Warpmind and Lynati and probably Juliaexia, to name a few..
But I have a problem see.. cos I am a dedicated pacefist, so I can't do it myself.. and I have had reservations about CR violence in the past.. and without wanting to be too much of a hypocrite.. I think any who know would agree that this person is a.. VERY deserving joyride candidate..

if you are on later.. perhaps we can talk..
*restrains an evil chuckle*
hafta go to more class..

lain, 10111
Thursday, February 1, 2001 12:15:06 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*Lynati enters, a backpack slung over one shoulder*
Heyla, everyone.
new pics...?
cool.

I have recently..ahem...aquired... some stuff on IM that does not belong to me. So, I will now give it back.
*reaches into bag*
Warps...here is your molar back. *hands back*
Valentine...I forgive you for last night. Here, you can have your pants back...and the few tatters of your dignity that lain did not get.
lain...I don't own any red satin push-up bras, so I guess THIS must be yours. sorry, I WAS in a hurry last night. and yes, oh great wise lain, who is not in a toilet, you are a great soul band-aid and friend. *big hugs AND a cookie*
...but Valentine, while again is a friend, still remains a small-minded @$$-tick... ;)

well, all for now. ^_^

*Lynati exits*
Lynati
Thursday, February 1, 2001 11:43:02 AM
IP: 207.94.232.75

** Kirshanta enters, puzzled at seeing everyone drooling over this infamous blue gargoyle - decides to find out what it is ***
Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 11:02:44 AM
IP: g69-226.citenet.net

oh.. and Warpmind and Leopard Lady:

********************USELESS INFO OF THE DAY*****************
Hitchhiker slang:
"'Hey, you sass that hoopy Ford Prefect?? Now there's a frood whi really knows where his towel is.' (Sass: know, be aware of, meet, have sex with; Hoopy: really together guy; Frood; really amazingly together guy.)"

**********END HITCHHIKING USELESSNESS OF THE DAY************
love,
lain, a frood who REALLY knows where her towel is
;)
Thursday, February 1, 2001 09:32:51 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

I won't be afraid of the window
And I won't be afraid of the door
Not even the wolves, hungry for blood
Can worry me anymore
And because of your love
I won't be afraid anymore

If I get lost in the city
Start following people around
If I lie down with the drunkards
Or fall in the river and drown
Because of your love
I won't be afraid anymore

If I do rockin and rollin
in pieces all over the floor
If I meet death on the point of a blade
I won't be afraid anymore
And because of your love
I won't be afraid anymore

It's been a long time since I've seen you
I might never see you again
Ah, but some things are too good to be true
Still, because of your love
I won't be afraid anymore

-NOMOS

And to think.. after all that last night.. went to bed at 4:30 am AND wrote an exam at 8am this morning..
:D
but.. noooooo noone ever listens to me saying I need to go to bed?? See??? See what I do for you people??? :P
;)

oh well.. more class see you later
love you

lain, 10111 - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
The Great White North
Thursday, February 1, 2001 09:22:27 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Voting is now open in the January Fanart Fight Club! <click!> To view the entries, go to Previous Fights. To vote, go to the Discussion Board to the Voting category.

I hope you get a kick out of my entry, because it's probably the last bit of fanart I'll be doing for a long, long time. *buffs toe of shoe on carpet* For the next several months, I'll be busy with freelance illustration work. In addition to doing more Magelore illos, I've just landed a contract to illustrate two game modules for Visionary Games. Wish me luck!!

Spike
Thursday, February 1, 2001 09:19:47 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-145.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

*Warpmind enters, brow furrowed to the knees.*
That's it. I am going to brutally murder Gunjack Valentine. My reason? He's managed to get me addicted to not one, but TWO webcomics this week. ;)

Gside: How often I use my head? Um... while even my mind boggles at the potential here, I have to ask... what purpose did you have in mind?

Gunjack Valentine: Well, I wouldn't say HALF the world is after you for one thing or another... ];) Peace? Well... Oh, alright, I suppose... After all, you did grant me access to your armory. ];)

Kit: *Grin* And, if my little Probability Control Matrix works as planned by its deadline, the coin should refrain from ever touching the ground. ];)

Todd Jensen: "Varney the Vampire"? Oh, well, at least it wasn't a reference to Jim Varney... ;)

Fire Storm: Enough of those testes, alright already. ];)

Leopard: Actually, I seem to recall hoopy is a stronger version of frood, and one cannot be used to emphasize the other. Aside from that, I wholeheartedly agree. ]:)

David G: You know, I'm thinking I've let Demmie reform a bit too much a bit too fast in my ficverse... Hmmm... Something should be one about that... Now, lessee, where to find good explanations for extreme mood swongs... ];)

Lady Corax: "Revenge of the Nerds" quote? Hmmm... That's from RotN 3: The Next Generation, isn't it? *The CR stares quietly at him for several quiet seconds.* WHAT???

SJ: I dunno; having Lieberman only one bullet away from the president could be convenient, if you get my drift... Sneak into the White House one quiet day, find a good location to wait, piano string at the ready... *Cough* Sorry, Hitman: Codename 47 seems to be affecting my thought patters here... ];) As for the Chocolate Factory, well... Tim Burton... Marilyn Manson... Hmmm... Maybe I should get that piano string, after all...

Christine: You go get'em, girl! And let us know when the book's done; I'm hereby setting myself up for a preordered copy, no matter what! MWAHAHAHAHAAAAaaa.... *Ehum* Oh, and I got the file on Tirion; looks good. :)

Well, that's about it, so...

**RP**
Warpmind de InzanE ushered Coolio onto the scene.
"All's ready, SJ."
Kari, Sammael and SJ stared blankly at him for several minutes.
"Warpmind, why did you bring Coolio in here?"
"Why, I thought you said we were to rap up the..."
SJ and Kari moaned and began rubbing their temples as Sammael stared dumbfounded at Warpmind.
"Please tell me you were joking?"
Warpmind grinned.
"Sorry; pun was too easy. Now, where do we go from here?"
Flicking a switch on a remote control, Warpmind turned away from Coolio, who dissolved, revealing himself to be a mere hologram.
"What's our next objective, SJ?"
**RP END; PUN WAS INTENDED**

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, February 1, 2001 04:04:39 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

Firestorm: You're probably right, we can't use it. <sighs> Oh well, at least I have it saved on my hard drive now.
Kitainia
Thursday, February 1, 2001 01:13:51 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.232.dlls.grid.net

I just got back from the Penn and Teller stage show. Some quite good stuff. A good number of people in here would like the flag/bill of rights trick, and Gunjack should go if only to be one of the assistnats for the magic bullets. And, being an engineer I alfway cheated to get part of the show for free. During intermission, Penn puts himself back in barrel threaded with metal pipes they used in a previous trick, "for the scientifically curious." They supposedly used to only allow those with IDs as nurses/doctors/etc to view him, until they allegedly realized that many don't carry their identifications with them, whereupon they came up with the idea to charge for the priveledge. I, of course was carrying my IEEE membership card, which I presented to Teller, who was collecting the money. I have no idea why I'm relating this, but I had some fun doing it. From the standpoint of engineer humor.

Gunjack> <<How about a zippo?>>: Other good items: a hammer, an animal trap, a tarp, a radio for weather reports (?), rope, a knife...
<<The pic I saw of tests on cabbages looked like it was raining salad>>: Better than a cuisinart. A veritable salad shooter.
<<but all the good spots would have been WILDLY inappropriate>>: Is that any different than the standard wangage. Usage.
<<I did NOT need that picture>>: Always happy to help. Have you seen the works of the Borthers Grinn (of supermegatopia)? I believe at another site they put up some works of theirs relating to Godzilla. Then of course there's that interesting segment of deviations.
<<Biuld yourself a tank>>: That may just do it.
<<going airborne inside a ten-ton steel brick>>: If I had anything to say about it, that would be the proper environment for such objects.
<<A lazy pepper gathers no weed>>: The problem with chewing is that it takes so much torque.
<<Maybe I could slow down the wang... $@%&^# *CR* clock down for 23 1/2 hours>>: But do you have the fortitude necessary? Well, you could always go at it in segments.
<<All I want is my soul back>>: Did you get anything good in exchange? It may not be all it was cracked up to be.
<<and for Lyn to put her shirt back on>>: ... A... Hmm... Th... No... ... Wang?
<<"yerself" sounds better>>: I would have to agree. At least I had a version of the proper response.
<<Denying the rumors IS the best way to get em started>>: And let me just say before anyone brings it up, there is no way that Greg Weisman is, in fact, a female alien intent on creating a militia to aid in the coming conquest of our wang. World.
<<*stares at Gside, and collapses into helpless laughter*>>: I was thinking of saying something, but it stands on its own merits.
<<tell me who the girl reminds you of>>: The daughter of a succubus... First reastion would have to be Lilith. I feel sure there's someone else I should be thinking of, but it's not coming. And I dread her exposure to level 2 Dan. Is it wrong to think "Erin" moderately attractive?

Wilek, Gunjack> I propose we start a lab in competition to Narbonic Labs. I think we'd have a remarkably similar group dynamic. Too bad Wilek's personality sprites wouldn't look very good. I could do Antonio smith on weekends. That, and I would look good if Andrew Farago came by.
Please note, that was a roundabout reccommendation for a webcomic, narbonic.com

Kirshanta> <<GOLIATH AND ELISA>>: I must disagree, Lex desparately needs more air time.

Welcome Leopard.
<<<I>hoopy</I>>>: Sorry, no html, all potential tag characters get changed to their html displaying encodings.

Fire Storm> <<I decided to take another look at the coding for the this CR>>: Do you know of any reason why the CR code is no langer accessible at s8? Or why I might not have seen it if it still is there?

Lady Corax> <<do you happen to take requests for mp3s?>>: Let's see, the mp3 before this one was at the behest of Emambu (if I remembered which one he wanted correctly). The only requirement is that I like it. The older it is, the better chance you have, generally.

Sev. Jr.> <<how many FarScape fans are in the CR?>>: Way hay. I don't catch it as often as I would like, but I still believe it to be very good. And the season finale blew my mind (Dead? No brain? Woah.).

Kitainia> <<Can we please get that blue lady garg pic available in here?>>: It's not a TGS character, so I'd think it would be disallowed. That, and I do believe it is supposed to be Aimee's gargoyle representation of herself (not bothering to check her site, just going by filename).

Congratulations SOROW.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, February 1, 2001 12:27:28 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Sorow > congratulations! Is there a scan of it we can see and admire?

Lady Corax > bringing something to share with the rest of the tribe might be a good strategy; I thought it was funny the way the Texan brought his flag and used it for their shelter-tent ... Tim says he should tell them that if he gets voted off, the flag goes too! ; ) I read an article that said one woman brought eyeliner ... for pete's sake, EYELINER, what the heck is that about? If I was making a list of things to bring, that would be about as near the bottom as could be ...

Kit > thanks for the encouragement on all my various projects! I am setting up a time to go visit TimeFare next month, so we shall see how it goes with taping my voice. If they were closer to Seattle, I'd try to get my co-worker Stan to do it ... Stan can sing bass opera ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, February 1, 2001 12:18:34 AM
IP: 22-100.075.popsite.net

testing...
Anonymous
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:03:38 PM
IP: ac8606a1.ipt.aol.com

SOROW: <whoops>
Kit
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:53:20 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.197.dlls.grid.net

Just stopping in to announce a bit of good news...if you can remember way back in about November, I had entered a photograph in a nationwide reflections contest. It was a picture of one of my gargoyle statues looking out a window. Anyway, I just won first place for it in the district division and it's on its way to state! Hooray for gargoyles!
SOROW
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:45:35 PM
IP: a010-0193.dll2.splitrock.net

LADY CORAX - Congratulations on your paper on Elisa. I can think of one major difference between her and conventional Disney heroines: Elisa is a good stepmother (well, kind of a stepmother, even though according to Greg Weisman, Angela looks upon her as more of an older sister).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:35:44 PM
IP: 216.87.46.64.dialup-stl.primary.net

DumlaoX: Thanks for the Dreamcast info. Doug and I may get one now. We do like some of the games for it (I enjoy playing Shenmue on Gubio's Dreamcast especially, though I wish you could play a female character. Blaze Fielding in a 70-enemy fight. <grins>). And you're right, Keith probably can get us a discount. Especially since he's an assistant manager in training. :)

Firestorm: Can we please get that blue lady garg pic available in here? I really like it!

Kitainia
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:18:55 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.197.dlls.grid.net

***BEGIN RP***
SJ holds a clipboard in his hand, and looks around at everyone. “Okay, let’s see if I have this all down. ROLLCALL!!! SJ! *ahem* ‘Here.’ Kari!”
Kari, looking disinterested by SJ’s antics, raised her hand. “Here.”
“Sammael?”
“Over here!”
“Those 6 warrior demons that wanted to fight the remaining Ten!”
“Yeah, yeah, we’re here,” Belzelk grumbled.
“Borg Administrator!”
“Here.”
“Various assorted RP players who have come to fight the Ten?”
Numerous replies came from all directions.
“Good and good. Well, it looks like we’re all ready. Time to wrap up the plotline!”
****END RP FOR NOW****

Well, maybe the much delayed RP battle will finally come to fruition.....Jesus, it’s been a long time, hasn’t it? It’s been like pulling teeth trying to get this all together! But ever forward, I say.

Political nicknames: Well, “Smirker” for Dubya seems pretty good. Just sort of fits him (and I thank whoever came up with it for being as kind as you were. Some Democrats I know have other nicknames for our President, and none of them are repeatable in a family comment room ;). I definitely think we should come up with nicknames for the other two bozos from this past election. For Nader, how about “Lazy Eye”. Or maybe “Dead Eye”, on account of that scary-looking lazy-dead eye he’s got going on (THAT is what cost him the election in my book. Who wants that creepy thing looking at you for 4 solid years? It would wind up like the Telltale Heart, someone would axe him just to stop the gaze of that horrible eye. For Gore.....that’s tough. “Bore” kind of sucks. I mean, it’s pretty obvious that he’s stiffer than Bill Clinton in a Hooters restaurant. How about we call him “The Loser”. The title just seems to fit. ;) ;p

And speaking about Gore, his running mate Joe Lieberman has got my blood boiling again. Call this liberal bashing if you will, but honestly this is more my grievance against this one man based upon his odd belief system, and not politics. Lieberman is a freakin’nut. It’s gotten to the point where he’s just about as bad as the Jerry Falwell’s of the world. Here’s his latest idiotic decree.
First, let me give the background on this. You know that show on MTV, “Jackass”? It’s maybe the best show on all of television. Nothing but idiots doing stupid and/or hilarious things. I love it. It is quite possibly the best thing MTV has ever done. I can almost forgive MTV for not airing any videos, Jackass is so good. Anyway, on one episode of Jackass, the host, Johnny Knoxville, wrapped himself in a **fireproof** suit, and allowed his friends to strap him to a spit and get roasted over a fire, pig-style, while they squirted lighter fluid onto the fire beneath him. It’s a great stunt. Well, some teenage kid (he was maybe 13 or something) who is obviously far too stupid to read the disclaimers in front of every Jackass break saying “Hey, stupid, don’t do this at home”, so he does the same stunt himself and bam! He gets burned. Well, pardon my language, but no sh!t, sherlock. So, even though this kid was too stupid to take heed to the disclaimer, Joe Lieberman, self-appointed savior of American morality, has demanded that MTV remove Jackass from their programming. I have one reply: Up yours, Joe. Who made you the champion of family values?
See, THIS is one of, if not THE, major reason I’m glad Gore is NOT the President. The very thought of this guy, Lieberman, being one bullet away from the Presidency is enough to keep me awake at night. Say what you will about Dubya, or Cheney, but thank God we don’t how this Morality cop sitting in the White House.

But let me now speak of some real perversity. A real travesty. It seems as if they are going to remake the classic “Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory”. That in and of itself is cause for great concern, but who do they have to play Wonka? Antichrist Superstar, Marilyn Manson.
*ahem*
No. NO. You hear me? No. That’s just damn wrong. I mean, I’m probably one of the few people in this room who LIKES Marilyn Manson. I like his music, and I dig his character. But....this is just wrong. Wonka is like, one of my favorite movies of all time. Don’t f*** with it, okay? I love Wonka, I love Marilyn, but if I have to hear Marilyn sing about how “There is no place I know like the world of pure imagination”, I may become violently ill.
Oh, and did I mention they want Tim Burton to direct? Dear God. I like Burton, I do, but.....Christ, I need a gun. This must stop before it begins.

Dreamcast: Well, all I can say is that if I was one of the poor dopes who bought a Dreamcast just last year for 200+ bucks, I’d be knocking on Sega’s door right now with a pair of rubber gloves and a rusty chainsaw, giving out free proctology exams.

Good news Buffy Fans!!!: Joss Whedon, if you didn’t hear, has just signed a brand-new 4 year, 20 million dollar (allegedly that much) contract with Fox to keep producing shows. This is good, because it likely means we will continue to see plenty more of Buffy and Angel for quite some time to come, as well as any new shows that Joss might develop. A bright day for Buffy fans indeed!
**SJ’s lips move like they do in a poorly dubbed Japanese movie** INDEED!
Sorry about that, but I can think of a couple people now who get that joke. ;)

GREAT news JMS Fans!!!: Pistoff tipped me to this, but I’ve been hearing more about it these past few days. If you didn’t know, JMS recently signed a deal with the Sci-Fi channel to develop some new shows and/or movies. Nothing too in depth has been disclosed as of yet, but JMS is throwing rumors around that you can’t necessarily count out a return to the Babylon 5 universe! Will this be the return of Crusade? Or more Babylon 5 movies? Perhaps! At the very least, you’ll be getting some quality programming from a master of the genre.

BTW, speaking of the Sci-Fi channel, just for my own personal curiosity, how many FarScape fans are in the CR? God I love that show. I think it’s the best sci-fi show out there in cable today.

And finally, things are official--there WILL be a Justile League of America animated series, and it WILL debute 20 something episodes this fall on Cartoon Network! Production has already begun, with the voice cast--including Kevin Conroy reprising his role as Batman--already working on episode 2 of the show! The series will consist of 2-3 episode story arcs, and will feature numerous guest stars. One confirmed story arc centers around Green Lantern John Stewart as he’s framed for a crime he didn’t committ.
All I can say is, I’ll watch the show religiously, as long as I don’t have to suffer through anymore Wonder Twins. The only way I’ll allow any Wonder Twins is if they have Lobo show up and eat them alive. Literally.

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 09:50:28 PM
IP: 207-172-119-114.s114.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Ok, here's a deep question that has potential ramifications in the BFTS RP universe: Ok, you were in a space ship traveling in space, and you could only take 7 mutants with you and each mutant's powers had to be unique, what mutant powers would you want on the ship? Yes, one mutant could be a user of magic, but that would be all that mutant did.

Hmm. That's all for now folks, except for one thing:

**DPH looks into the pan of boiling water and can not found a body, or remains of a body. DPH shouts, 'Why did I free DC?'.**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 09:16:04 PM
IP: max1-10.cwy.cei.net

Mary> Wow! Congratulations on getting nominated for that award. And don't worry...there's a nerd inside all of us, just waiting to be let out. (Sorry, couldn't help quoting "Revenge of the Nerds" there...) ;) Good job, though. And for that writing assignment, just write whatever you feel like, no matter how weird you might think other people see it. That's too bad you have to cut back to 8 pages, though...I know how it is to have to limit yourself. Maybe you can continue it later...;)

Speaking of which, I just got through with a paper about how Elisa Maza was not your typical Disney heroine...I can't believe I got away with that. :)

I keep running into all these people I knew from years ago at this school...it's pretty weird how we're meeting again after years apart. I just went through an art gallery exhibit by one of my friends from 4 years ago, and I remember him taking some of the photographs he used with his work...it's weird when you can say, "I was there when he took that." For some reason, I felt like a character out of Highlander or something...;) Plus, just today, I accidentally ran into one of my few enemies in this whole world, who also happnes to go to this school...she didn't say anything to me, but hoo boy, if looks could kill...;) Plus my other enemy just transferred here...man. Maybe I should consider a transfer too...;)

Todd> Oh, man, I hope to goodness they renew X-Men Evolution for another season! And Scott's brother Alex is pretty cool, but I agree with you about how the Summers family tree just grew way out of whack. I follow the comics as much as I can, and I *still* don't understand all these relatives Scott has...;) And I would LOVE to see Gambit in the series! And Jubilee too, but she might not fit in in this series, 'cause everyone's the spunky kid-type right now. :)

Kit> Cool, another Greenspan fan. :)

Gunjack> Yeah, a Zippo would make perfect sense! :)

Christine> Dang it, you're probably right about the rules against fire-starting stuff...hm...I wonder if you could bring fudge as your item, and then bribe everyone else with it? **grins at Coyote** :)

Gside> Hey, uh...do you happen to take requests for mp3s? If you don't, that's okay...but if you do...**grins**

Take care, y'all, and see ya around! :)

Lady Corax
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 09:03:03 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

***RANT***

I'm feeling worried about my Creative Writing class. We started Tuesday (Monday was a day off for students and today was a block day, meaning only even numbered classes on this day) and the teacher seems kind of intense with writing, but she has a limit to how much she expects. The stories I have going through my head are like novels, and she expects something that's maybe 8 pages long. I also worry about whether anyone in my class is going to understand what I write. I like reading mangas with less-than-normal storylines(Ranma 1/2, InuYasha, Tenchi Muyo, Video Girl Ai), so I like to make up stories that are really bizarre. I don't know if I have enough time to write what I want to write and whether it's good enough for people to read. :/

***END OF RANT***

BTW, during my 4th period class today, I was given an invitation to an award ceremony on Febuary 13th at my high school's teacher's lounge. This is a ceremony given to students who have done very well in school. Basically, we recieve rewards for being studious nerds. ;P Which makes me wonder why I'm getting one. I'm not very studious or smart. You're only invited if a teacher nominates for a reward. I'm guessing my English teacher from last year nominated me. :P

Mary Flnaders
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 08:03:19 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I'm not getting involved in the discussion over Demona's TGS behavior, but I would like to give my own two cents' worth on her part in the Wyvern Massacre as portrayed in the television episodes, and here I'd have to side with Ed.

My own feeling is that Demona, ultimately, was betraying the humans to the Vikings for what was essentially just a fair amount of social ostracism but nothing worse than that; the punishment was a lot worse than the crime. There was also a certain amount of power-hunger there, as can be seen by her words "They should bow to us!"

Admittedly, there was also the vision that she had had of the future massacre back in 975, but even then, if she really believed that Princess Katharine and her subjects were planning to murder the gargoyles, betraying them to the Vikings was not the only option. She could also have persuaded the clan to leave the castle and find another home before the humans could turn on them. It would obviously not be easy (Goliath certainly would not have agreed to it, in my opinion, and nor would Hudson), but we know from "Reawakening" that Coldstone was leaning towards that attitude, and maybe others might have shared it.

But actually betraying the humans to the Vikings only made sense from the point of view of revenge, not of survival.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 07:09:37 PM
IP: 216.87.46.170.dialup-stl.primary.net

Kirshanta> Oh goodie, someone's throwing new fuel on the raging conflagration that is the debate over Demona's redemption. I've been missing it.

Your points are good. I don't find anything to overtly disagree with. (Give me time. I'm sure I will eventually)

I stand in the "It's been too easy" camp, but my point of view is a little different than some people's. I don't have any problem with Demona's current behavior, but I assign her all different motives than most of the "she should be reformed" crowd.

I think Demona's ACTING reformed because that way Goliath lets her see Angela. She may even BELIEVE she's reformed, but she still has deep guilt and blame displasement issues to work out. While she's probably not genocidal anymore, I think she's just one "betrayal" away from lashing out again.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 07:02:29 PM
IP: adsl-65-65-211-183.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Todd Jensen: <Um, could you please explain why you're doing all these tests?>

I could, but then I would have to kill you! :)

The anwser is simple, really.

I decided to take another look at the coding for the this CR. And while looking at it, I noticed that some codes repeated (It was a color number repeating in a pic code, so there was no problem.) But then it got me thinking: Why did the TGS image code start at 100 instead of 0?

Long story short, some sections of code are reserved for other CRs on the S8 server. Some are reserved for S8 Main Gargoyles, some are reserved for Aimees old CR, and finally some are for this CR. If I kept the coding numbered as planned, Aimees pics would show up in here instead of TGS images.

Making it VERY short:
I was just testing the coding before I tried uploading it to Gorebash again.

Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 06:59:42 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

FIRE STORM - Um, could you please explain why you're doing all these tests?

One other little "Thicker Than Blood" note. I wasn't really able to get this across in the text, but the mausoleum that the vampires retreat to at the end of the story (in my opinion, at least) is the one that Goliath and Hudson had their showdown with Demona at in "Long Way Till Morning". (I was thinking over where the vampires would go after they lost their house and a mausoleum seemed a fairly logical place - and based on the "recycling" style of "Gargoyles", it was obvious which mausoleum it would have to be, in that case).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 06:34:51 PM
IP: 216.87.46.170.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Lynati pokes her head in*

Read the "simpgoyles" fic. I still stand by my "The Princess Gargoyle" vote. :)

lain: congrats!! *BIG cookie, all for lain*

leopard lady:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you made it in!
cooooool.
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IM...

*rushes out*
Lynati
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 06:02:10 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-168.rasserver.net

*pokes her head in*

Um, Hi...I'm Joe, and I'm Canadi...wait, wrong bit.

Yeah, I'm a RL friend of Lynati's, and she turned me on to the fic and your twisted bunch. *lays blame on her* Wait, she told me to say she's a frood. I think she's a <I>hoopy</I> frood, but that's just my opinion. Anyway. Tawk amongst yourselves...I still have 2.5 more seasons of Gargoyles to read through.... (oy.) -J;LL

Leopard - [ji_ll@hotmail.com]
Rochester/NYC, NY, USA
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 05:53:32 PM
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Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 05:47:40 PM
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Hey there.

EVERYONE < It's great to see so many pics used today. Very impressive!!!

Lady Mistic < OK - Now you lost me.

Kitania < Lucky you. You got to see the commercials!! And I so agree with the vampires being unoriginal. I mean, there are so many other characters now - interesting characters, that we know - that we don't need to follow the trend and be vamped away.
For a couple of episodes I will tolerate them, but as season-long villans - NO WAY.

Come on - what we all want to see is Goliath and Elisa together, or stories of Avalon, or news of Iago (who by the way - vanished off the face of the earth - correct me if I'm wrong). Something within the confines of the world we know - loose ends being tied up. GOLIATH AND ELISA. Come on - give them a break. It's like the Lois and Clark the New adventures of Superman - I mean it just dragged and dragged. Let them make the frigin' announcement already. Give Beth some room to breathe. Explain Goliath's aggressive behaviour towards Xanatos. Tell us about Puck's lessons to Alexander.
Don't create all these new plot lines with less than believable characters whom no one wants to see and by the same token ignore the old lovable ones. (clasps her hands and begs) PLEEEEAASE...

ED < Cool!! We disagree on something. Ok - Demona. Well it seems she will be the subject of debate for years to come.
Fine so she wasn't TRUSTING!! She wasn't genocidal either and I daresay she could have gone either way right up until McBeth's betrayal. Granted, she was never a fun, lovable creature in the general sense of the term - but come on. She wasn't exactly evil either. A little confused maybe, but hey, there was a good reason for that.
She felt left out as a kid and she went to study under the Magus so that she could have a telent as well. that in itself wasn't bad. Had she studied under someone like Merlin for example, all would have ended fine. But the Magus was evil and he only strengthened her feelings of inadequacy. Do not underestimate the power of negative feelings. They can turn an angel into a demon.

And yet I persist in saying that even though she did betray the clan, she did it for noble reasons. Before you give yourself a heart attack trying to counter me - listen. The deal was that the humans would be taken prisoner (most likely to be freed by Katherine's family at a later date) and the gargoyles would take back what was rightfully theirs to begin with. It would teach the humans a lesson they were sorely in need of learning.
None of the gargoyles were supposed to be harmed and the heart-break she showed at finding them crushed is proof enough of that.
She was still redemable then - her constant visits to Goliath and her actions while she was with him denoted love and loneliness and regret.
She lost those qualities greadually after being hunted for decades (even before the hunter) and having to fight tooth and claw for everyhting she needed.
She became hardened with age - as most people do and with each new betrayal she grew more vengeful.
If you notice, when she was rejuvenated and allied to McBeth, she was mostly loyal and even carefree to an extend (witness City of Stone part 4 when she grabs McBeth in a bear hug).
Her betrayal of McBeth is explained (although not excused) by the fact that all she had know up until that point (except for the few years with McBeth) had been betrayal.
The revenge turned to genocidal rage I cannot and will not explain, except to say that even gargoyles can go mad with grief. (Demona, being immortal, had loved and lost many clans, not just one. And she had seen humans massacre each other in wars for centuries - enough to make even some humans dissolusionned)
Anyway - moving along to 1996 and the current Demona.
On the contrary, I think 3 years is more than enough time to change certain personality traits. Let us not forget that Angela was the driving force behind these changes.

And before you say "Yeah but..." listen. Angela was Demona's reason to change because she did not accept Demona as the maniac she was. Demona was left with one choice and one choice only - change or you don't have a daughter.

Added to which, the fact that she now became human during the day gave her a different and much needed perspective into the human world. She discovered for the first time what it was like to be on the other side. And for the first time, she allowed herself to have human friends. Admitedly, her inital reasons were less than comendable, but her reasons changed as she realized just how much you learn walking in someone else's shoes.

I think Demona has learned a lot. She learned that not all humans are bad. She learned that a child's love is the greatest force in the universe. She learned that until you've let go of the past, even just a little there is no growth.

She is not a Normal gargoyle in the common sense. But she is a graduate of the BSGG (Behavioral Science Gargoyle Group). And I would give her a passing mark - just barely.

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 05:02:24 PM
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Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 04:24:25 PM
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*enters, with an exceedingly large grin on her face*
Just got back from my job interview...
MWA HA HAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4RCR officially owns my mind, body and soul ;)
and not only that, but soon I will be getting army-issue underwear.. yum.. :P

I passed every requirement for recruitment into ANY FIELD I WANT (huzzah for IQ tests ;)) AND my medical AND interview.. YAY!!! I must be the happiest person on earth!!!!! (and maybe among the most tired, too ;)

*goes to attempt having a nap.. *

Love ya,

lain, 10111 - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
The Great White North, where they let hardcore pacefists into the army..
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 02:36:33 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

There, I'm finally using a pic. I kinda like Lex, especially human one. A techno-nut like me, unlucky in love (so far :P ) and a gamer to the core. I mean, why else does he have a portable game in his hands now :)

SEGA-- It's official. As for 8AM PST, Sega of America confirmed that it has officially become a 3rd party developer. This means that they will begin to make games for systems other than the Dreamcast. By the end of the year, you'll see Space Channel 5 and Virtua Fighter 4 go to the PS2 while the Game Boy Advance will see Sonic the Hedgehog and Chu Chu Rocket. Plans for X-Box & Gamecube have not been announced but are likely. This does not mean that the Dreamcast is dead. On the contrary, the system will see software for at least March of 2002 and possibly longer if the sales of software on the system continue to be profitable.

In fact, now is still a great time to be a Dreamcast owner. Phantasy Star Online has just come out, making it the only console RPG to go online. Yes, this means that all you TGS RP people can actually do an adventure online. Other games for the system go online as well, meaning that you can compete with anyone here in any type of game, from puzzle games to sports to shooters, etc. Anyone with a taste for old school gaming can go to underground sites & find people developing emulators for the system so you can play your old NES, SNES, Genesis, Game Boy, & Neo Geo Pocket games on a TV like they were meant to be played. The Dreamcast is also the only system to have a VGA adaptor, so if you want arcade perfect titles to look even better & clearer, this is the way. Anyone without a net connection can use it right away to surf the net. The keyboard & mouse helps as well. And with over 200 games now & at least 100 more coming soon, it's a great system.

Not to mention that the core system is dropping to $99 while the Smash pack, with 2 Dreamcast games & 10 Genesis games, is going for $119.

No reason to hold back now. Just buy the darn thing already if you haven't. Support a gaming legend.

OK, enough of a rant for now. If you couldn't tell I was a die-hard Sega fan before, there's no doubt now :P

KIT--Now there's no reason not to get a DC. And your friend can at least get you the hook-up for the game & accesory discount. Dunno how much sales tax is there, but EB employees get a 10% discount off anything but the system itself.

Till next time...

P.S.-- If you do happen to play any Dreamcast game online, lemme know. I'll definitly entertain a game or two :)

DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Los Angeles, CA
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 02:25:17 PM
IP: msa-4328-43.oac-commons.ucla.edu

GARGOYLES: ‘THICKER THAN BLOOD’

***Spoilers and comments***

Kirshanta: I’d say the complete opposite on Demona: I think her ‘redemption’ has been rushed terribly!

First of all I’d like to refute your analysis of her ‘true self’, albeit qualified with Goliath’s judgement. But Goliath’s judgement probably was rather partial, since Demona was his mate. At this time, she kept secret even from Goliath her study of magic; hardly a life-destroying incident, but certainly not ‘trusting’ as you describe. And from little acorns do big oaks grow. Just pause a moment to consider the impact of what she was doing by aiding the sacking of Wyvern independently on the tragic impact on the gargoyles. She was selling out the people she and her clan had sworn to protect, to pillagers, murderers, almost certainly rapists, and others. Sure, she wasn’t popular with the humans – but the very fact that she was still alive, and nobody else saw any threat to their livelihood, suggested that there was no danger whatsoever. Before she had been faced with any of her time truly alone and isolated as an immortal vagabond, she was a partner in grand treason and implied murder on a massive scale. She wasn’t very trusting when she evacuated the castle alone either.

But Demona after the Wyvern Massacre WASN’T as low as she was going to sink. She never killed Gillecomgain, although she might have. She hid and ran and scavenged, killing humans only when there was a threat to her. She was fundamentally isolationist. Remember in part 3: ‘if I had the strength of my youth, I’d give the humans cause to run’. Considerably more small-scale than the mass-genocide she later advocates. Now yes, her means were less. And yes, back then it meant PHYSICALLY killing people, a very different proposition from smashing statues or dropping a canister with a supervirus. But she also helped Macbeth in 1020, even above killing. She was, in short, isolationist but vicious when cornered. Look what it took to get her to ally with Macbeth: the Weird Sisters had to lump the two together, cast a bit old spell, swap their youth, tie their lives together, give them immortality and tell them what each of them were offering in the pact. That’s pretty massive intervention. Intervention with a deliberate intent.

What intervention did she have by TGS in 1996-1999? Two things I can see: her involvement in the human world as ‘Dominique Destine’, and Angela. And perhaps the common enemy of the Unseelie Court. It’s not the first time she’s worked amongst humans. The first time perhaps, she’s done so free from contempt but she has the majority of the city to remind her of that. And Angela? Well if you think back to ‘HUNTER’S MOON’, it seemed that Angela was a BIG incentive for her to get more involved in her plans not less. Think about it from Demona’s point of view: you were hurt, betrayed and shunned by the human world and now you may be able to save your daughter from such a fate. Do you do it? Sure, you do it. What’s the alternative? Even Goliath couldn’t possibly consider equal gargoyle-human relations in his lifetime, surely. What are the odds, even to an optimist, leave alone for Demona, that Angela is going to live her life in safety?

By 1996, she’s reached her lowest point: her plan shattered, her mate left her, and her daughter allied with her enemy. By ‘A MIDWINTER’S TALE’ though she’s talking shop with Xanatos at the gargoyles’ solstice celebration. By the following season, she had befriended Andrea and gone so far as to say she loved her (which is beyond saccharine IMO). By ‘THE LONGEST DAY’ she was willing to actively move against killing humans for the sake of the jeopardy she might put her few friends. She’s at least stands Elisa. Basically, she seems more like a grumpy old granny ranting on about the woes of the world than a character who credibly proposed mass genocide but a few years earlier. She’s willing to swallow her temper far more than Goliath does. She has a closer bond with a human than most in the clan.

So who’s changed it? Andrea? Come on – Lulach was a die-hard supporter of the gargoyle-human pact, she heard him argue against Bodhe’s proposition. That didn’t stop her betraying Macbeth, an act still a fraction of the scale of her Hunter’s Moon plan. She spends her time dwelling on Michel a lot: and it’s not inconceivable that having lived since the Dark Ages, she would have found at least one human with whom she could relate. But she dwells on him. A lot. Now I don’t call “what have I… what have THEY done to you” a point of view predisposed to dwelling on how some humans aren’t so bad after all. She liked the Captain. She liked Macbeth. Look what happened to her friendships with them. Why should she not be haunted by those same hatreds? What about Angela? As I outlined above, surely Angela would strengthen, not diffuse her resolve. Before she was waging war out of jaded and dated revenge. But she has a personal stake in wiping humanity off the planet now: that stake being the safety of her daughter.

Of course, it’s the timescale that’s most important. October 1996 to May 1999, when she last appeared. Thirty-one months – if that’s not rushed, I have difficulty in finding something that is.

Todd: Well, you’re certainly right that Dracula was a sure bet for ‘Gargoyles’, but TGS had already dealt with vampyres in an fairly original sense and I might have hoped for some less known legends to be explored more fully. Perhaps some of the ones that were never really given a chance to spread their wings in season 2. Not that I dislike the vampires though – as I said in my review they look to show a bit of promise. But as far as branching out and doing something shocking and different with the concept goes, it must surely be an easier task with a lesser-known legend than with vampires. Still, I look forward to see what Vlad ends up doing…

(One half from last week--)
Ordell & Todd: Thanks for the behind-the-scenes info on TGS. It's always fascinating to read all this stuff.

Kitainia: Interesting comments on ‘THICKER THAN BLOOD’. I would have thought that a reclusive billionaire who buys a 150-year-old gothic house and lives in it with the windows blacked out would be more than enough to warrant at least a little side note on the local news. Also, I think Margot’s dedication to the cause is completely logical. I certainly don’t think it’s hurting her mental health. She’s taking a personal issue that is very important – potentially life-and-death if you subscribe to the belief that gargoyles are savage, and she’s been on the front line long enough to see the gargoyles in quite a bestial mode. The rest of your comments on all the coincidences, I agree with however – thanks for making them.

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 02:22:22 PM
IP: ac9d9ad5.ipt.aol.com

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm back in business! I got tired of posting from the lab anyway. Well I have to go to History soon but I took the time to upgrade my explorer because Robby was right the AOL server was jacking with me. I'm just glad this thing works again.

catch y'all later.
"The only sane people in the world have certificates to prove it"
Must have lost mine.

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:08:06 PM
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Anonymous
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:03:11 PM
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Todd Jenson>>>I also hope for a second season of X-Evolution. I would love to see Gambit beacues of the three main couples from the original series Gambit and Rogue were my favorite.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:49:15 AM
IP: user-37kap1l.dialup.mindspring.com

KITAINA - Actually, I don't think that we'll be mentioning the Anne Rice books anywhere in TGS, on account of the "no commercial references" dictum.

Oh, and you're spot-on as to where the "Varney House" name comes from.

And don't worry; no offence was taken on the review.

A BIT MORE "X-MEN: EVOLUTION" NEWS.

Another new episode is airing this coming Saturday, entitled "Turn of the Rogue", where (I presume, from the evidence) Rogue will finally join the X-Men. (The basic plotline, according to official releases, has Rogue and Scott up in the mountains on a Geology Club field trip and having to work together to survive. It will also involve the first encounter in the series between Professor Xavier and Magneto).

I don't know if we'll see Forge again, but according to official sources, Juggernaut will be showing up in an episode later on this season, and the season finale (a two-parter) will include a "guest star" role from Scott's brother Alex. (Incidentally, I hope that he - Alex Summers - I mean - will be the only member of the Summers family other than Scott who ever makes it into the series, at least for a good long time. I'm no expert (or is it X-pert?) on the subject, but I understand from what I've heard that Scott Summers/Cyclops has the kind of family tree that can send even the most stout-hearted genealogist into a corner, curled up in a fetal position and whimpering.

There's no official announcement as to whether WB will be renewing the series for a second season, but one is expected soon (and the general feeling, based on the series's ratings, is that it probably will be renewed). Official sources indicate that if the series gets a second season, there are plans to bring Beast, Angel, and Iceman (whom I understand were the original X-Men members in the comics alongside Scott and Jean) into it. (My "wild creativity demon-prone" side can't help but say that if Beast joins the X-Men in the series, with Nightcrawler already there, the X-Mansion should be a very interesting place come shedding season.... :)

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 07:06:10 AM
IP: 216.87.46.37.dialup-stl.primary.net

Beginning Part 2!!

Lain: Weird dream. Very weird dream. Hope I never have one like it. :( Glad you're giving Lynati compliments, I think sometimes she needs a self-esteem boost. As all people do now and then of course. <grins> Some men find muscle mass on females attractive, some don't. Mine thinks too much of it is just as bad as too much flab. I tend to agree, but I suppose a healthy amount is good. :)

Lady Corax: I often find a lot of other things that need doing whenever I have to write a huge essay too. <grins> I agree about Alan Greenspan, that man is the real reason our economy has been doing so well in recent years. I hope to God that our next Fed Chairman is at least as good at his job, though I doubt it's possible. :(

Tim: The Green Party really stands for all that?! Thank goodness I've never voted for them, I don't think I want to after reading some of their views. They're living in the past and assuming it should determine our future, I think if their policies got enacted we'd be just like the Soviet Union. Or worse. Thank goodness the party is small and has very little support, I would probably go nuts and become a crazed underground militia babe if it ever got in charge of things. <sees Doug grinning at the image she just mentioned and decides to do the same herself> I also agree with you about Ralph Nader, the man is indeed a professional complainer. Because such people tend to perpetuate the need for their job above all else, you never want to put them in charge.

Stephen: Congrats on the new glasses. You must have figured out some solution to your situation. Hope you will soon tell us what it was, and it works. :)

Green Baron: I will miss you, hope you do well in Basic Training and can come back soon. Doug and I'll reply to your letter once we get it. Stay cool, friend, and good luck. :)

DPH: Congrats on getting through that interview, it's good to know that job you seem to want so much may finally be in your grasp. Good luck getting through the background check and drug test clean, you better enjoy the job when it's yours and get paid well. :)

Lexy: Glad to hear someone has a hotel rate scheme for the next Gathering, Doug and I are really worried about being able to afford rooms if we attend. Unfortunately we're even more worried about affording plane tickets, so we may not be able to come at all. <sighs> I'm glad that some people are getting the chance to afford it just the same though. Thank you for giving them that chance with your plan, whatever it may be.

Pistoff: Welcome back! Nice to see you in here again, you were missed. I don't know if I completely like or share your political opinions, but you're right to say that extreme liberalism needs a voice in here. (Put me down as one moderate dweller who intends to ignore it, though. <smirk>)

It's late now, and I'm caught up. Have classes and work again tomorrow, all the joys of RL. <sighs> I'll be back once they allow me another brief moment of freedom. Everyone have a good life, and please, if you can, pray for Mike Hernandez and his family. They need it right now, as they probably have before. :( Until next time.

**RESUME RP, RAVENS' SAGA. APOLOGIES ONCE AGAIN TO ANY FANS OF TEMPTATION ISLAND IN HERE- GOD FORBID THERE SHOULD BE ANY BUT JUST IN CASE**

"Our ratings must be skyrocketing!" the director screams in triumph as Asil continues gunning down the frightened contestants of Temptation Island and their seducers. "This is great! The studio is sure to give me a raise for this live footage!" "They better give me one too," the cameraman mutters. "Please, miss…" the last of the male contestants is begging Asil. "Bonnie and I just wanted to say if we could really be faithful to each other…" "You shouldn't need to embarrass yourselves on live TV to know that," Asil snarls, finishing him off with one last burst. "Miss, Miss!" the director calls to her as she blows a smoke plume from her BFG's barrel. "Can I get an interview as to why you did this?" "You're the one who arranged to put this terrible show on the air?" Asil asks him. "Well, no, that would be Sandy Grushow," the director replies. "But I cooperated, so I guess…" His speech is cut off as Asil lowers her gun and fires again, putting him down with a single burst. Kit's evil clone smiles as he falls and turns to the scared-to-death cameraman and sound crew members. "You all may go. Tell Mr. Grushow I am coming for him soon. I suggest you quit Fox and find other jobs." "We didn't want to work on this show anyway!" one random Grip shouts. "Yeah, we were just assigned," the cameraman nods disgustedly. Asil nods in acknowledgement and waves them toward a door Guod has opened up. "You didn't throw up this time," she smiles at Admiral Nipon, who is just getting up and frowning at the blood on his uniform. "I think I'm growing used to your violence," he sighs. "Are we done here?" "Narf!" Pinky says, stopping his dancing. "Whoa, what happened here?" "I carried out my contract," Asil replies as he gasps and stares at all the bodies. "Pinky!" another white mouse yells, causing Pinky to turn away from the corpses and smile. "Brain!" he cheers. "You're back! Poit! I missed you!" "I sort of missed you too, Pinky," Brain replies, grimacing and trying not to look at the bodies. "Now we're together again, though, thanks to whatever cosmic force led me here to find you." "Good to see you, Brain!" Pinky says. "How did the plan with those driving students go? Troz!" "It failed," Brain sighs. "Once again, world domination is snatched from my gasp." "You should have let me come with you, Brain," Pinky says. "I could have pointed out the major flaw to you. Maybe this time you would have listened. Zort!" Brain growls in indignation. "Good to see you back," Nipon tells him. "Likewise," Brain nods. "So what's been going on while I was away, apart from this?" He waves at the carnage Asil has created. "I'll explain on the way out," Nipon sighs heavily in response.

The screen flickers and changes to show the massive gathering of Minnesota National Guardsmen outside the Mall of America. A soldier runs up to the General and says, "The press are on the scene now, sir. They just got here!" "Damn it," the General swears. "What took them so long? Thank goodness the Mall seems to be coming back together somehow. Otherwise we'd have a lot more to explain." "You gonna make a statement?" the soldier asks. The General nods. "The Governor's inside, I'm in charge out here. I might as well." As the soldier nods and starts leading him toward where the reporters are, there is suddenly a chorus of gasps from nearby. Grimacing, both National Guardsmen turn in its direction and their mouths immediately fall open at the sight of a huge spiral of purple light that has appeared in the air. It flickers and then flashes, becoming an archway through which a blasted landscape of fiery pits can be seen. The display is brief, as a truly huge reptilian creature that looks very much like the tarrasque of D&D fame steps into view and then starts walking towards the gate. Many soldiers scream in terror and start to open fire on it as it comes. The creature throws back its horned head and bellows loudly as the shots bounce off it, shaking the Mall's foundations. Then it steps through the gate, tail lashing at its feet, which shake the ground as they step down onto it. Bellowing again, the gigantic creature reaches down and picks up a car, then hurls it into the mass of soldiers as the gate disappears behind it. The soldiers scream and scatter, many continuing to shoot at it even though they seem to be doing no damage at all to its thick hide. Just coming out of one of the Mall's exits, the main group of the Ravens stop and gasp as one, unable to believe what they are seeing. "That's a Goroistro demon!" Shap identifies the creature. "What the hell…" "I think I can guess," Orion interrupts him gravely, pointing to the laughing cornugon Geburah, who has appeared flying above the giant demon. "Do we have anything that can face that monster?" Tanith asks, her tone full of disbelief. "Yeah, do we?" Doug seconds, looking very frightened and unsure. "We do," Kit assures them, looking towards the Onslaught. "Jammer, you have the keys?" "Right here," Jammer replies, a very worried expression on his face. "Now we just have to get to the truck," Shauna says, grimacing as the Goroistro bellows again. "Good thing those soldiers have it distracted." "I'll take care of its flying buddy," Elena declares, changing into her Liberation Angel form and taking off into the air. Keith shakes his head at Kit and turns back towards the Mall, still carrying Stephanie over his shoulder. The protesting Governor Ventura is hustled back into the Mall as well by his soldiers, while Kenny grimaces and runs along. "Everyone else to the truck!" Kit says after nodding at Keith. "Quickly!" "Not so damn fast, you ice-cold freaky bitch!!!" a haughty voice yells as they begin to move. As Kit turns towards it with a frown, a loud rifle shot rings out. Anthony shouts in warning and dives in front of Kit, knocking her down and letting the bullet bounce off his chest. Atop a nearby parking garage, Senon Rodriguez curses loudly as he observes the daring move. "Sniper!" Tricia shouts, pointing at him. "Let's go get him!" Boris suggests. "Kit!" Doug calls. "Did he…" "I'm fine!" the half-garg insists, waving Doug to go after Senon. He nods and runs to follow Tricia and Boris towards the parking garage. Jammer, Orion, Tanith, and Lathrop are already moving towards the Onslaught. "Damn!" Shauna stares at Anthony as she helps him get up. "You're not even hurt! I could have sworn that bullet hit you!" "I saw it hit you too!" Shap says, helping Kit get up. She turns to Anthony with an expression that is half thanks for his leap and half confusion over his apparent lack of injury. Anthony grins sheepishly back at her as the Goroistro bellows once more and the screen goes blank.

**LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE EXPLAINING TO DO, RODLOX. :) END RP AND POST**

Kitainia
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 03:03:56 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.122.dlls.grid.net

**SINCE MECORD HASN'T BEEN HERE IN FOREVER _AGAIN_, LET'S START THE RP OFF WITH HIM :)**

The screen flickers on, showing Mecord and Lithanne continuing to clash blades while the clone soldiers look on. Thicaarn and the dragon who came with him and Mecord lie unconscious on the floor, both already securely bound by Zale's men. "You best give up, foolish human," Gar snaps at Mecord from where he stands in the midst of things. "You do not want to kill her, and I have arranged things where you will have to if you wish to escape this." "You…" Mecord turns to glare at him, then gasps as Lithanne takes advantage of the distraction and stabs him in the side with her dagger. The elf immediately collapses into a faint. "Well done, my pet," Gar chuckles and claps as Lithanne bows and sheathes her blades. "Take them to my chambers," he orders the soldiers. "I wish to interrogate them all." "Gar has done good work once again," Zale comments to Thailog in another room as the soldiers do as Gar has commanded them. "I do wonder why he called that swordsman human though- he didn't look like any human I've ever seen." "There was a lot of magic about him," Dahak notes from Thailog's other side. "Perhaps Gar can discern exactly what it is." "I want this base completely sealed against magical intrusion by tomorrow," Thailog declares, tapping his talons on the arm of his chair. "There are to be no more intruders distracting us from our preparations. Have Nipon or Kharsus checked in again yet?" "No sir," Zale says. "It will take them some more time to accomplish their mission, I suppose. Last I heard, Nipon had freed Asil from her prison in the Atlanta Time Warner Building, but they had to leave town to avoid attention and haven't returned yet." "Issue them new orders," Thailog says. "They are to head for Virginia and investigate the home offices of AOL. That company has recently merged with Time-Warner and must have some part in Turner's plans. Nipon, Asil, and Guod are to find out exactly what." "I'll send the orders, sir," Zale nods. "And Kharsus?" Dahak asks. "Call him," Thailog replies. "Find out if he's at the Mall, and if so, what's preventing him and those damned souls from attacking the Ravens if they haven't yet. Then go find Dr. Edison and Miss Gardner- I must speak to them about phase two of our plan." "It shall be done, Lord," Dahak nods and withdraws. Thailog turns back to regard the display of the hallway before him, grimacing as he watches Gar and the troops taking Mecord and co. away.

The display changes to Abdullah bin Aziz's mansion in the Middle East, where Erin and her party are groaning in shock and slight pain as they recover and get up. The fireball Apep launched hit the mansion hard, but the wall absorbed most of it. "What happened?" Mary's voice asks over the radio. "Are you all okay?" "Yeah, Mom, we're fine," Hassan assures her, looking at Sarita, who is gasping as she stares through the large hole in the wall at the gigantic metal dragon now approaching them. "What is that thing?" Bessus asks. "Why didn't we know about it before?" "It doesn't matter," Erin sighs. "Now we have to deal with it." She grabs her radio. "Alex! This dragon you were talking about…" "Abdullah has it under his control!" Gubio replies. "I'm trying to figure out how, crack the program and shut it down. You might have better luck shutting Abdullah down first." "Will do," Erin replies, grimacing in Apep's direction. Then, all of a sudden, dozens of bullets and missiles streak into the dragon from below, causing it to shake in midair and fall to the ground. It only pauses for an instant when it hits, immediately leaping back up with a frightful roar and turning to engage the Desert Knights with full fury. "Let's go after Abdullah while that thing's distracted!" Erin shouts at the others. Mist meows in agreement, waving a paw at the door he went through. "He can run but he cannot hide," Fasil declares bitterly. "We shall finally send him to answer to Allah." "Just come home safe," Mary says from the radio, and her husband nods. "After you do what you have to do, Dad," Patty adds before Fasil can speak himself. Erin and Hassan exchange smiles as Fasil lets a proud grin settle over his face. The moment is shattered as Ershel groans from where he lies bleeding heavily on the floor near Abdullah's desk. "Do you need to be finished off?" Bessus asks the accountant, walking over with gun ready in hand. "No!" Ershel gasps, throwing up his hands. "I was only following orders! Abdullah paid me well! That was the only reason why I helped him! Don't you know he supports the Palestinians?" "He also supports the Jewish radicals who persecute the Palestinians," Fasil snaps. "The hatred in the Holy Land must be kept flowing to produce the soldiers Abdullah needs to fight his wars. You're his accountant, you must have known." Ershel opens his mouth to deny the claim, then shuts it, knowing they will see the lie. "You call yourself a good Jew," Erin growls at him. "Yet all you care about money, isn't it?" "Yes!" Ershel whines. "It's true! There is nothing else of worth in my life! Can't you understand? Forgive me?!" "Only God can do that, I'm afraid," Bessus sighs, and fires his gun once. The accountant gasps as he is hit in the forehead, then faints into death. "We could have turned over to the Israeli authorities," Sarita says as Bessus lowers their gun. "I hear their prisons are pretty tough." "They are," Bessus confirms. "But for his crimes…he would have been executed anyway. Let's hurry after his master." The others nod and move towards the room's far door, Erin calling Queen Noor on the radio as they go. As the Desert Knight leader makes a joyful and relieved reply to acknowledge they are alright, the screen fades out.

**NEXT- CATCHUP FOR ABDULLAH AND TED TURNER. FOR NOW END RP**

Hey everybody. I'm back in here once again, and glad to be so. Life has been going pretty mediocre for Doug and me since the last post- apart from the Super Bowl, we had a boring weekend. No good movies, and I had a lot of studying to do. I'm caught up on it now. We're still waiting to know when our home will be delivered to our land, hopefully it will be soon- the nice weather we're having won't last forever. Some more bad news from Doug's job- they had to terminate Mike Hernandez because his background check (which took a surprisingly long time) came back negative. <sighs heavily> That's what Doug told me at least. Even though Mike's one of their best, most diligent, and most responsible officers, they have to let him go because of the black mark in his past. Doug's very sad about it, I am too. Not as sad as Mike must be, though, I'm certain. He has a large family to provide for, and now he has to find some other way of doing so. It probably won't be doing the job he obviously enjoys- security. I'm sure the guy would appreciate any prayers directed his way. We don't know exactly what the mistake in his past was, just that he's always shown himself to be a good guy to us and no more- thus this development shocked us very much. <sighs again> Doug and the other officers are working extra hours to make up for the loss, hopefully the company will get some new hires soon. All else in our lives remains stable and business-as-usual. On to replies.

Todd: You were indeed right that a new X-Men came out last weekend. I quite enjoyed it, have comments below. Same deal for Zeta Project. Comments on your latest TGS work are below also, I hope you won't take them too hard. :( I like your plans regarding Anne Rice in TGS, though I think Buffy has already had something like that with Spike and Angel. Maybe you can do something related to Laurell Hamilton instead, her work concerning vampires is far more interesting and well-written than Rice's.

Jannie: Dawn is indeed the key Glory's looking for. That was revealed in the fifth episode of the season, which you must have missed. Thanks for pointing out to me the joke I didn't catch. <grimaces at it, then giggles a bit> I too am looking forward to developments on Dawn and Ben, and also to the new District episode this week. <re- Texas Seven's whining about the prison system> I didn't know about that. I'm not surprised by it though. Taking out those losers in the RP is going to be so much fun. :) Thanks for the home offer, but I don't think we'd want to live that far away.

Archwolf: An online bachelor party for Doug sounds okay to me. Just please clear all strippers, cake jumpers, and so on with me first, okay? <ignores Doug's grimacing> Congratulations on staying sober as long as you have, hope you continue to feel as good as you do now. Glad to hear your classes are so entertaining, hope you do as well in them as your effort should allow.

SJ: Anton Sevarius Elder…Nah, I don't like it. Sorry. Thanks for your congratulations, though. We'll be glad to keep you as our children's weird uncle. :) Provided we ever have any, that is. Doug and I want to, but you tend not to think about kids when you know it's impossible for you to afford them at the present time. :( Looking forward to seeing you at the wedding when you come. Glad to hear you got over your bad cold.

Lynati: You're welcome for the Simpgoyles fic mention. Hope you enjoyed it, if you've read it yet.

Christine: I'm confident Black Roses will be worth waiting for however long its release takes. Hope it comes out soon though. I do not like to go crazy with anxiety. :) I haven't heard you read, so I'll refrain from commenting on whether or not you should read the book yourself. Doug thinks you should, though, if you're confident you can do it. And I agree with Taleweaver that your GMing experience will probably count heavily in your favor if you do decide to read the book yourself. Glad to hear Archmage is progressing well, hope to soon be enjoying the new Sabledrake and AvMists.

Gunjack: <nods> Doug and I were surprised by all our home's cool features too. But that didn't keep us from being thankful for them. :) I like all the nicknames you've been using recently. As for Matthew McConaghey, he was killed in the RP a long time ago, when he was part of the Hollywood Ten. That was back when he got in trouble for playing the bongo drums naked. (Yeah, I know, he did it in his own home, but still, it's weird!) He was a real snothead about that, and Doug and I thought it would be fun to deflate his bubble (the guy isn't a very good actor, despite his egotistical claims to be so), so we offed him in the RP. That was unfortunately prior to our run-in with him at Paradox a few months later, or the violence would have been way more gratifying. <sigh> Oh well.

Selanit: You got to spend time with Anne McCaffrey? Cool! Put me down as another fan of her writing in here, the Pern series is second only to Eddings's and Jordan's stuff in terms of great modern fantasy novels IMO. Thanks for telling us all about the great time you had in Ireland, I hope your famous friend has another book on the way real soon.

Kirshanta: Perhaps we need to do South Park: The Movie for real on those Canadians, knock some sense into them. <grins> Sorry to hear you missed out on some great commercials, many of the ones Doug and I saw during the Super Bowl were good. Not as memorable as previous years', but more than decent. :)

Lady Mystic: Interesting that we're not the only ones searching for land and home in here. <grin> Good luck finding some of your own soon. Thanks for your congratulations to Doug and me. Thanks also for updating the CR recently, I'm glad you were able to do so. Hopefully you won't have such serious access problems again for a very long time. <kills DC in case it helps> I too hope your flu will not relapse soon, glad you got over it. :)

Kyryn: Good luck to you and Okami in your search also. And congrats on getting over your illness, hope it is by now completely gone.

Winterwolf: It is indeed very good to be away from the big city sometimes. :) Although we do like Austin and Doug still wants to see if he can be on their police force even though we'll be living thirty miles down the highway. I think there are many officers with commutes, given the price and scarcity of property in this town, so it may not be a problem. <grins> We'll see when the time comes. Thanks for your friendships and congratulations all through this, we too are glad to be taking this big step together. :)

DumlaoX: Thanks for the congrats. :) Sorry to hear about you and Alison, but if it's for the best…<sigh> Glad you're still good friends. Condolences once again on your father's passing away. <moment of silence> Congrats on having the Electronics Boutique job, it sounds like it has nice perks. Keith also currently works in one of those stores. Thanks go out to you, Gunjack, and Gside for convincing me I need to check out this Typing of The Dead, which I will do soon. :)

Daniel Johnson: I too am relieved somewhat to hear your mom won't have to suffer a long time. I'm sorry that her disease is worse than it seemed though. :( Hope her passing is easy when it comes, and you two are able to enjoy the time you have left together. <clasps hand>

Wilek: Doug and I also intend to buy The Emperor's New Groove on DVD. Nice theme song choices, hope you find yours soon. Ally McBeal may be a dumb show most of the time, but its writers are correct to say finding your theme song is a great epiphany. :)

Warpmind: Ah, but we couldn't hold our peace. They're our families. :) And they're still arguing over what kind of ceremony would be best for us. Doug and I hope they come to a compromise soon, if not we may just have to decide ourselves by flipping a coin. <grin>

Jaden: Perhaps we should take that advice. Thanks for giving it. :) Congrats to your sister whose name I share on starting college, hope she enjoys it and does well.

Katara: Thanks for the congrats, better late than never. Also thanks to David G and you for the info on CTS. Doug and I now know the signs to watch for (our hands frequently feel in pain from all the typing etc. we do, though we don't think we have that condition yet).

Robby: Congrats on being able to post again. Hope the computer problems you had don't re-occur, though I think you have them figured out now (lousy AO-Hell!). I also hope you are able to resume your regular posting rate and RP soon, Doug and I are crossing our fingers.

Spike: Didn't know you had CTS, condolences. Thanks for the treatment advice, though. Doug and I will keep it in mind if we ever get the condition ourselves.

Rev. Atilla: <pets> The commute shouldn't be too bad, thanks for your concern though. The house is a new single-wide manufactured home, 3 bedroom and two bath with a kitchen and living room also. It's either completely built or almost so, and then of course it needs to be moved onto the prepared lot, skirted, and furnished. It will take us a while to do it all, but it will be worth it. :)

SOROW: You're welcome for the encouragement, we were glad to give it to you. I hope you are able to keep dancing all your life, if you really enjoy doing it as much as you say you do. :) Good luck with the auditions!

Mandi: Congrats on the fic award nominations, I read that story and think it deserves the awards. Good luck getting them. :) Also glad your machine's working for once, hope you can get it fully repaired or buy a new one soon.

Ordell: You did a pretty good job on the TGS premiere IMO. Sorry if I didn't make that clear before in my comments. Thanks for explaining what you did about the writing process and the episode's events.

Mary: The guy in Save The Last Dance is Sean Patrick Thomas, you can see him in The District Saturday nights on CBS. Doug and I may check out that film this weekend if no other good movies are playing. Congrats on meeting Joseph, I'm sorry to hear he wants to be just friends though. Oh well, maybe he'll change his mind if you know each other long enough. :) Glad that you've decided to be happy with your life for the present regardless. At least you'll be happy that way. Congrats also on not having CTS.

**SPOILER WARNINGS**
As I said above, I enjoyed the new episode of X-Men: Evolution this weekend. Forge was a good new character, one who I hope we'll see more of. Liked the development on Scott and Nightcrawler, and was laughing out loud at the scene concerning guys wanting to blow stuff up. I liked better that we got to see the good and bad groups of mutants all actually coming into direct conflict with each other, there were some very good dialogue bits and action sequences between the X-Men and their foes. Hope to see more of it in episodes ahead. Great script for the episode too, and nice animation. As for Zeta Project, I'm glad they replaced Cardcaptors with it- it's a way better show IMO. The animation's not as good, true, but it's good enough to tell us the story and delight us with emotional scenes. The writing and character development are also way better. The first episode was quite a good start, it did a good job introducing all the main characters and establishing their conflicts and personalities. I agree with Todd that Bennet makes a great antagonist and West is just plain hilarious. Good writing in the first episode, the dialogue and contrast between Zeta and Ro was my favorite part. Hope the show continues to stay good, and to find out more about Zeta's past and the terrorists he was fighting when he changed alignment in the episodes ahead. For now, I give it 9/10 stars.

I give the TGS episode this week 6/10. It had some good bits of development on Dracon and Goliath, and the writing was more than decent, and I liked the meaningful title that paralleled all the relationships Ed mentioned, but I think the episode failed tone-wise. It came across to me as a dry summary of events, with too many convenient plot devices. Nicole St. John's report on the Tepes family's arrival is one of them, it must have been a really slow news week for her to want to report on a strange foreign family coming into New York, doesn't that happen almost every day with all the big airports, UN, and so on? Then there's the clan and Dracon's gang deciding to check out the family because the last European visitors in New York turned out to be serious bad guys, and big whoop, these people turn out to be serious bad guys also. That they're vampires is hardly a surprise, anybody who remembers studying Dracula in high school should know Vlad Tepes was his real name. Some of us have also probably read the Varney the Vampire stories, which is where the Varney House reference comes from. Then the clan fights Dracon's men in the Varney House, and the vamps' blood-making machine just happens to get destroyed, which makes them have to reveal themselves. Two of the bunch feed on Brendan, get the whole city in a panic- convenient plot device again. The fight at the end between the clan and the vamps has the most convenient ending of all- everyone must flee the sun, and Goliath brings up the point to end things. :( Now I do understand that gargs have survival instinct, they want to know they're in a safe place when the sun rises and so on. At the same time, I do think Goliath would be smart enough to realize that the vampires forgot they were weak against sunlight and use it to his clan's advantage. Or does he need Hudson to remind him that can be done (Long Way to Morning)? Thus the way the episode is written that scene comes across like it was conveniently written to allow the vampires to fight the clan and escape. Then they must go into hiding, while the clan returns home and the terror the city was in blows over thanks to convenient footage showing Brendan being attacked by vampire bats (so the vamps show up on camera in bat form, but not human- isn't that nice?). At the end, nothing has really changed in the TGS-verse except that we have some new villains and Vince isn't with Dracon anymore (I really didn't like how Dracon just let him go either. He seemed to surrender too easily, considering the kind of guy he is). The new antagonists are also not that interesting, IMO. Maybe they were endearing to others, but not to me. None really had any development in this episode apart from introduction, and all seemed to be some sort of cliché and that was it- the rebellious psychotic youths, the obedient wooden servant, the obligatory vamp matriarch, and so on. Vlad was somewhat interesting with his opinions on modern vs. medieval times, but even he got tiresome before the ep was over. I liked the fights between the clan and the vampires, but that was the only part I liked- I must confess I wanted to see them dead at the end and was quite disappointed when they weren't. Maybe they just need more development, but the way it looks now, I hope they stay hidden for a long time and don't become the main antagonists of the season like it's rumored they might be. IMO, that would not be a good idea because they are not interesting enough to be such antagonists. Gargoyles doesn't need seasonal villains anyway, it did just fine without them when it was on TV (TGC had seasonal villains, look how well it turned out). Ed has also made good points about seasonal villains working for Pendragon but not for Gargs. Many more interesting stories can be written for the TGS cast besides the potential vamp-related ones, hope they get produced instead. I'd much rather see Thailog, Fang, Demona, Oberon, Clifford, and even the Ultra-Pack again than those boring vampires. Margo also needs to seriously see a psychiatrist, I think. Someone must realize her obsession with gargoyles is hurting her mental health (though whether she'd acknowledge it I'm not sure). Overall, this week's episode was decently written and easy to read but too predictable and dry, I found. I missed having illustrations this week again too. :( Hope to see some in the next episode, as well as more interesting development and characters. If the vampires must come back, I hope more interesting developments (particularly how much of the Dracula story is true in TGS) are in store for them all.
**SPOILERS END, SO DOES PART 1**

Kitainia
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 03:03:11 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.122.dlls.grid.net

oops, and I forgot one thing... Clicky on the link, and tell me who the girl reminds you of... o.O ...I'm wondering if I'm the only one...
Gunjack "It's all my fault" Valentine
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 02:37:27 AM
IP: 216-146-183-93.bwn.net

*Valentine enters, carting a giant iron statue of a robed, sneering woman*

In the interests of not following Wilek into semi-annual postdom, I suppose I'd better actually make some replies.

Warpmind><<Remember, death ends the fun, but with a few strategically placed life-sustaining units, there are hours and hours of fun to be had... ]:)>> Lately, it seems half the world's been after me for one thing or the other...

Lain><<OKOK.. but I will try to cut down on the number of nights a week I spend up till 4am chatting with Gunjack..>> Oops! Guess we blew THAT one away, eh? ; )

Lady Corax><<How come no one thinks to bring matches as their luxury item? ;)>> How about a zippo? o.O

Daniel Johnson><<My man, the size of your posts seem to be expanding at an exponential rate.>> Actually, they're just going back to their usual size. Look back at the posts I did during the Entity/PAL debate, if ya wanna see some REAL monsters... <<It's really quite shocking. ;)>> *blows raspberry* ....Oh, the tales I could tell...<<How about chewing raw coca leaves? It's actually quite healthy.>> never heard of this. Do cocoa leaves count as a drug, legally speaking? <<I am normally an inquisitive person, but some things are just not meant to be known.>> I've been getting that alot lately... *grumbles somthing about evil company* ; ) <<Blink. All of you are completely insane; you do know that, don't you?>> Yes. Yes we do.
<<Hey, I just thought of something: Warp's head must be blue!>> Heh. I suppose that it'd be a bad idea to show Lynati that pic o' me with my head shaved and my face painted ala Braveheart... *evil laugh*
<<I don't want to know. Nope.>> Hmmm, I shoulda been more clear. The, uh, incident involved Lain's longstanding plan to steal my soul. And since Pisstoff decided to watch instead of, say, zapping them with his cattle prod, I'm now kinda soulless. *Starts formulating plans to steal it back...*

Gside><<Nope. Sounds like fun.>> Varmint hunting is where you stand off about 600 yards and shoot at prairie dogs. The bullets are designed to pretty much vaporise on impact, so they transfer a heackuva lot of energy to the target. The pic I saw of tests on cabbages looked like it was raining salad. 8 ) <<Not true. You were posting well over five months before me. At least that's the earlies post of yours that I can find.>> Truly!? YEESSS!!!! I have seniority! ...Now, if only that actually MEANT something... ; ) ...Oh, and I haven't contributed anything to the fandom either, other than that one ticket for the Gathering... <<But it is still a question to ponder.>> True, indeed. Would you eat a smurf's house? What if the smurf were still inside? <<I'd say so. And you post in green, too.>> *This thought finally connects in Valentine's brain* O.O ...Whoa! Maybe I should go on a quest to reclaim my destiny... <<You wang. Learn.>> I thought about doing the "Wang" thing this time around, but all the good spots would have been WILDLY inappropriate... Up 'till now, at any wang... Rate. At any rate. <<Well, I wasn't planning on actually quilding the device (though you never know what you might need to protect the city from giant rampaging monsters).>> I did NOT need that picture. <<I was more thinking of something that is indisputably fun that runs off diesel.>> Biuld yourself a tank. Then do out into a field, and practice ramping off of various objects at 60+ mph. There's nothing quite like going airborne inside a ten-ton steel brick...
<<You know how dangerous it is to say that, right? ...Daikawang.>> Thank goodness for that wang... SPEECH problem. I don't think I could have survived... <<Hey, maybe taht would correct the CR wang. Clock.>> Maybe I could slow down the wang... $@%&^# *CR* clock down for 23 1/2 hours... <<Tread carefully. Muffin is a good woman who can do many things for her people.>> Nonsense contest! A lazy pepper gathers no weed! <<Sounded normal to me.>> Exactly. ; ) <<I think I'm going to be out of a job here soon.>> I hope not. I don't want your job. All I want is my soul back and for Lyn to put her shirt back on... *IseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothingIseenothing...*
<<He has a thing for wang, park benches, and squirrels.>> Squirrels=rodents=hampsters... benches... wang... *suddenly collapses into hepless laughter* ...Heeheehee, and the best part is, only ONE PERSON knows why!
<<And the rest of the day ta ye.>> "yerself" sounds better... <<I thought you said I was the only wang. One.>> I don't think I'll *ever* live this one down... And you were right, Gside. Denying the rumors IS the best way to get em started... ; )

Todd Jensen><<Um, if I were you, I'd pick another nickname.>> No dice. Punks like him are the reason I carry that cold iron Lochabar...

Pisstoff><<Basically, it looked like, "Oh yeah, I'm a nonconformist too--just like all the other nonconformists in here!" Heh, just felt like commenting on it.>> Musta missed this... But it does make sense. We're just all nonconformists in different ways... <<Chan's character is named Chon Wang...>> *stares at Gside, and collapses into helpless laughter* ....Heeheehee... Though, I agree with you. Shanghai Noon was one heckuva film; Chan's best to date, IMO...
<<Christ. Sooner or later I'm gonna have to Joyride the guy who created that show.>> Can I help!? PLEASE!!? What if I payed you fat sacks of cash money!?
And those bumper stickers... LOL! Glad to see your sense of humor has remained intact. Nice joyride, too... Though i've gotta take you to task. Do you have ANY idea how inconsiderate that was to the janitors of america? o.O Who do you think has to clean up when Politicions unload excrement (literally speaking) on stage? Don't you have anything better to do than create messes for these poor, hardworking people to clean up? For SHAME!!!
Hehehe... If we could adapt that weapon to an area effect class, what fun we could have on Capitol Hill... 8 )

Well, that's it for tonight... Back to IM, where it appears Warps is getting ready to take me tentacle off for calamari... : P ...Peace, Warps? Please? o.O

Gunjack "Can Wang" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 02:20:58 AM
IP: 216-146-183-93.bwn.net

Lynati> <<wrong muffin>>: True, but how often do you get a dean of a college that demands that you call her Muffin?

Kirshanta> <<Top o' da mornin' to ya>>: And the rest of the day ta ye.

CSH> Dakota's Ridge: So far, you're looking good. Though I would like to say that my hat is much better than his. With fully furred earflaps.

Det. Stoff> Welcome back.

Aaron> <<Ooeeooeeoo Wah wah wah>>: Oh yeah.

Gunjack> <<you aren't gonna go blabbing about that little thing with the shirts and the leather and the spurs, right?>>: I thought you said I was the only wang. One.

Warpmind> <<It won't assure my head takes no damage>>: Well, how often do you use it, anyway?

Mp3, mp3 mp3... How about we go from Winterwood to a Winter Song (by Crash Test Dummies)?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 01:35:01 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Hi everyone! Well, I started going through all the posts for the week so far, but only got about half-way through them before starting to do push up with my nose on the keyboard. So I figured I'd better at least say hello and make a place here.

Superbowl> didn't see it, didn't care about it. I was up the road getting my nails done. :) Although I understand there were a few good commercials this year.

I also noticed a few people mention IMs and what not. I've got both ICQ and MSN Messenger. Anyone ever get bored in the middle of the night, feel free to give me a shoot. I'm registered with both services using my email listed below...(garglover66f@hotmail.com)

Anyways, one more nod, and I'm going to have a reverse "J" permanently imprinted on the tip of my nose. Besides, is almost 11pm and is time for me to switch to Sci-Fi and watch 'Crossing over with John Edwards'... such a cutie! :) I especially love it when he gets frustrated with people. Nighters all. **pelts the room with Hershey's Hugs & Kisses on the way out the door**

Katara - [garglover66f@hotmail.com]
San Diego, CA
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 01:27:52 AM
IP: ac932030.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind enters, a silly grin plastered on his face.*
Ahhh... IM with Lynati... Only thing I'd like more would be IRC'ing with her... Or maybe a direct phoneline. Hey, if there's one between the White House and the Kremlin, why can't there be one between my place and Lynati's? :)

Gside: Aye, I suppose... That's why I think it to be College-level education. As for a Grimtooth-certified head... It won't assure my head takes no damage. But, it will assure that anyone who tries to tamper with it, will recieve LOTS of it. ];)

Daniel Johnson: My head isn't blue. Except when it's REALLY cold outside. ];)

Pistoff: YAY! The MAN is back! Missed ya, amigo! :) Lovely little Joyride. ]:)

Aaron: Ah, I see.

Well, that's it. I'm on IM with Lynati and Valentine, so I'll just cut this short. Later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 01:24:05 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

*Lynati enters*

hello. my name is Lynati. and I am an IM addict.
hee hee...


Warpmind: no message, I you just arrived on IM

*runs out*

Lynati
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:28:58 AM
IP: 207.94.232.192

Lady Corax > given that they make such a big deal out of the fire challenge, they'd probably nix any choice of matches/lighter as a luxury item just to keep it interesting.

Aaron > Solarrin's luv slave? You been looking at my notes? LOL!

Pistoff > welcome back!

Sabledrake reminder > the deadline for the February issue is this coming Friday. Still got room for stories, articles, poems, art, and reviews! Contact me at christine@sabledrake.com

Ack! Time to dash off to work!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:26:23 AM
IP: 14-070.075.popsite.net

SJ: Heh, oops. Actually, I wasn't planning to post today...I was thinking about it, turning it over in my mind, trying to decide whether I wanted to or not...then I just kinda did it on impulse. :P Oh well...hee hee...
Pistoff
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:20:47 AM
IP: bandon1-46.transport.com

*** TGS CR UPDATE: PART 2 ***


DPH: Now we don't need to email you. Visit this link for the weeks you need:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/index.html


If anyone has saved weeks corresponding to our list of missing and incomplete dates (see URL) please email me at lady-mystic@usa.net.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/missing.html


Unsure which images in the images archive are available in the CR? Want to know which images won't be usable until the CR update? Go to:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images/available.html


To repeat myself: PLEASE DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THE CR PICS POLL. THE IMAGES YOU HAVE BEEN VOTING ON ARE INVALID.

For a convenient list of images and a way to place your vote, please visit:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/vote.html

Whether you use one image to post with all the time, use random images whenever you post, stick to an assortment of images, or use none at all send in you stats and opinions.

This poll is based on results from the past voting session. You can view those result here:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/statistics.html


*** / TGS CR UPDATE: PART 2 ***


DumloaX: Emailed you. Hope you understand.

Kyryn: Emailed you. Awaiting your advice.


I don't agree with having this poll/vote and also disagree with renaming the CR pics, but I'll manage it anyway. As to whether or not we rename the CR pics remains to be decided.

To quote one thing that voices my opinion on the poll/vote:

<<But then the archives wouldn't have an accurate recording of which pics were used. ~Gside>>

How many people actually want to go through with this (ie: renaming CR pics, thus causing the add comment page to mislable and mislead posters)?
Who doesn't care?
Who would rather wait until the real update?

PLEASE RESPOND. Thanks :)

Lady Mystic - [<-- TGS CR INFO UPDATE !!!]
TGS CR Info Senior Admin
Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:16:25 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

**SJ enters the CR, laughing evilly as he does so**

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Pistoff has returned.....now, the Orgy of Violence can resume! BWAH HA HA HA!!! LET THE CYCLE OF DARKNESS BEGIN AGAIN!!!!!

Now, if only we can twist the lovely Ms. Faulkner's arm behind her back and get her in here again, I will feel complete.

(Oh, and Fred, you could give me a warning next time! There's a big difference in "I'm thinking about posting again" and "I'm posting today!". Oh well, a very pleasant surprise this evening. ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32:58 PM
IP: 207-172-87-100.s100.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Heh heh heh...just a few things I need to respond to while I have a moment...

lain: Holy crap. O_O Uh...hi. Heh. :P

Aaron: Thanks. Don't know how frequently I'll be able to post here because of all the crap I've got hitting the fan in RL, but I'll show up as often as possible. I also hope Dubya's new nickname catches on. :) As for the Joyride, I'll probably get around to Nader sooner or later. I'd much rather see Jello Biafra run against whichever idiots the main parties foist on the public in 2004. At least he'd be fun to watch.

Gunjack: Blabbing about what? I'm not even sure what the hell was going on. I found myself dropped into the middle of it and lost track of it almost immediately. After a couple of minutes, I just ignored the rest while chatting with lain and Jessie in separate chat windows. :P Oh, uh...please don't explain what was going on. I'm better off in the dark, I think. ;)

David G: Thanks. Oh, the fun I'm gonna have...tee hee hee. :>

Spacebabie: @$$hole professor, eh? I think that's doable... >:)

Daniel: Glad you enjoyed the bumper stickers. A friend of mine emailed them to me a while back, and I've finally been able to put them to good use. You can thank Aaron for the "Smirker" nickname. He based it on a "Transmetropolitan" character called The Smiler. The similarities between the two are kinda disturbing, actually.... Nicknames for Gore and Nader...I'm open to suggestions. People already call one of them "Bore," but that one...I dunno...it lacks something. Anyhow, thanks for the good luck wish. I'll make it sooner or later. My job and various RL things are making me more and more determined. I'll get something published even if I have to go to an editor's office and ram the manuscript down his throat... :) <<For some reason, I don't think I'll be able to look at a hot dog in quite the same way again. >> Heh. Just be glad it wasn't a chocolate eclair.

Okay, back to the writing...

Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
"Never lean on the weird. Or they will chop your head off. And perverts will eat your brains." --Hunter S. Thompson
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:17:35 PM
IP: bandon1-46.transport.com

SOROW> Actually, Elizabeth is named that not for Elizabetta, but because she is Elizabeth Bathory. Historically, Elizabeth Bathory was a Russian noble woman who was accused of luring young women into her clutches, killing them and bathing in their blood in order to attain eternal youth. She was tried and found guilty and sentenced to house arrest for the rest of her life. She died four years later. Whether or not she actually commited these atrosities is not certain, but she became legend through these accusations.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 08:40:40 PM
IP: dialin-46-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

***TGS SPOILERS***
I was actually very amused and surprised that the sp was about vampires. I say this because I currently finished reading Bram Stoker's "Lair of the White Worm." And as we all know, he also wrote "Dracula." I knew on a whim that Vlad turned out to be Dracula because his wife is named Elizabeth. In Bram Stoker's version, her name is Elizabetta.
***END***

SOROW
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 08:35:15 PM
IP: a020-0491.dll2.splitrock.net

Whoa! The IQ (Insanity Quotient) in here is going through the roof. Lynati and lain are, well, Lynati and lain, DumlaoX reappears and immediately starts a poll, and Pistoff is back in a kinder, gentler form.
Yeah, right. :)

Things are gettin' a whole lot more interestin' around here. :)

Kirshanta:
<<The insanity in this room will never cease to amaze me.>>
Obviously, you don't this place as well as you thought. ;)
----
DumlaoX:
re: poll. I'll have to think about this some more. I don't use a picture, but if I found a new one I like, maybe... I'm so used to the current crop that they're getting a little boring.
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Pistoff:
That entire post was just too funny. The bumper stickers had me ROTFLMAO. "Smirker" is definitely the perfect nickname for Dubya, but we do need to find equally good names for Gore and Nader, at the very least.

<<"Oh yeah, I'm a nonconformist too--just like all the other nonconformists in here!">>
I used to be indecisive...
...now I'm not so sure.

Good luck on the writing!
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Lynati:
<<...>>
.... ... .... .. .... ........ .. ....? :)
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Gunjack:
*Looks from lain to Gunjack to Pistoff* I don't want to know. Nope. Definitely not. I have no problem with what people do in private, but this is something I could do without knowing.
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DPH:
Maybe it was just your mind's way of saying goodbye to your mother. Sigh. I think I might be saying goodbye to mine sooner rather than later.

<<No, I am not a clone.>>
Ah, I see that the programming is performing as expected. Excellent.
----
For some reason, I don't think I'll be able to look at a hot dog in quite the same way again.
Thanks, guys. :P
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Spacebabie:
*Eyes pop out and fall on floor*
*Isn't sure whether he should move closer or run away*
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Lady Mystic:
Very nice! Thank you for the great work!

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 08:26:03 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

*** TGS CR UPDATE ***


Thanks to Kyryn (*HUGS*) we finally have TGS FTP access!

EVERYTHING in the CR info area has been updated!


The navigation links have been updated on every page to include the mirror site. Since there isn't a text only site anymore that link was omitted.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/index.html


The CR archive has been updated to include all weeks saved up to last week and a page stating the missing and incomplete dates (complete with links to those weeks).

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/index.html
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/missing.html


The CR Images archive has been update and now includes a slightly editted index page and a page stating our currently available pics and our pics awaiting the CR update (complete with links to pages with the corresponding images).

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images/index.html
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images/available.html


FYI, pages redirecting to active URLs (such as the obsolete URLs to the archive and image page) now include a link to the mirror site.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive.html
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images.html


New CR Images pages have been updated.


Participate in the new VOTING session. See "VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT" below for details.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/vote.html


Stats on the past voting session are available, including voter stats, appeals, summaries, and reinstated (yet revised) image stats.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/statistics.html


*** / TGS CR UPDATE ***


DumloaX: I'll email you.


*** VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT ***


EVERYONE: Please stop voting in the CR. You are voting on incorrect data. Those images via DumloaX's link are CUT images and will not be used in the CR update. All images awaiting the CR update are in the crpics folder and are viewable via the images archive (http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images/index.html). Those pages include information that a direct link to the crpics folder lacks.

Cast your votes via this link:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/vote.html

This will make it easier for FS and I to keep track of all the votes. This page includes links to the pages that display the said images. Plus it will keep the CR from getting to large.

Any questions, flames, and comments can be sent to me at lady-mystic@usa.net. Above all, send me any flames directly, do not post them here.


*** / VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Lady Mystic - [<-- TGS CR UPDATE !!!]
TGS CR Info Senior Admin
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:53:16 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Enters wearing a leather dominatrix outfit and carrying whips and Hentai tentacles.

Ok enough of this sweet and innocent persona...Well maybe I should just keep on fooling people::Opens up her taking over the world journal::

::jaw drops to the floor:: Oh My Gawd! First Dumalaeux then JEB and now Pissy??? What does this mean.. Will Jewel return as well? ::crosses fingers:: and is the Joyride back? Cause if it is I gotta certain @$$hole of a professor that needs to be Joyrided.

WERE getting a New Tv.. and a DVD player...know what this means? Dual langauge anime DVDS!
XenaTrek>>>It is addicting game, but I find the Gold version a bit easier than the blue and of the three names choiced they give you for the main character...they guy you move around is Gold, Hiro, and Talor, ...Guess wich one I chose.

Outlaw Star>>>Dang this is a good show. I love Gene. those scars reall give him a sexy edge. Aisha is a hoot and Harry MacDougal reminds me of Dilandu from Escaflowne...Note to self buy Esca on DVD.

Spacebabie
Orlando, FL, U.S.A
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:49:35 PM
IP: user-37kape8.dialup.mindspring.com

Lynati>> *whispers in her ear* psssssst.. do YOU have that hot-dog spell in your Book of Shadows or.. was that me?? hee hee ;)
mmmm Oscar..
;)

lain of the Real World
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:26:26 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Pistoff> Nice to have you back, amigo.

Todd> Vladimir hates Anne Rice? That's kind of too bad. I once played a World of Darkness vampire who read Anne Rice novels because he thought they were really funny.

If you haven't seen Shadow of the Vampire, you should go see it. Max Schreck has a very interesting view on the subject of Brom Stoker's Dracula.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:23:20 PM
IP: adsl-65-65-209-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Gunjack>> Muffin.. I *TOLD* you not to watch them all in one go didn't I?? I *TOLD* you... just cos noone EVER listens to me just.. *sighs*
*takes out industrial sized roll of duct tape and begins the careful operation of taping the Gunjack's head back together*
silly one.. LISTEN to one who knows next time, eh?? lain is wise..
and.. stick on yer ICQ cos.. Messenger appears to be taking a nap..

love,

lain of the Real World
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:22:37 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

GUNJACK - Um, if I were you, I'd pick another nickname. Suppose that Puck or some other faerie trickster happened to come upon it and took that "wish" of yours a little too seriously?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:07:06 PM
IP: 216.87.46.5.dialup-stl.primary.net

Ok, another rant about Egroups-to-Yahoo-groups. If you thought Egroups was slow, you ain't seen nothin yet. It took 15 minutes for my message to be posted, egroups took only 3-5 minutes.

**RP RELATED**
Winterwolf, Brooklyn/Uriel - could you guys at least update your egroups accounts to the much slower Yahoo?
**END RP RELATED**

**Incoming DC torture**
DPH quickly creates a portal and out comes DC, trapped in a forcefield. DPH opens another portal and out comes . . a giant pan full of boiling water. DPH puts DC inside the pan of boiling water. Then, DPH puts a forcefield around the pan that prevents DC from leaving or using any magic. The pan has a built in heat source and continously adds water to prevent water from running out. If someone wants to, the person can free DC by shouting 'Why did I free DC?'
**END DC TORTURE**

That was for disconnecting me for no apparant reason.

I had a wierd dream last night. I dreamed I said 'Happy birthday' to my mom. Today is my mom's and my brother's birthday. Did I mention my mom has been dead.

**Outside the CR room, DPH plants some fireworks in the ground and then sets a timer for them. The timer also creates a forcefield around the fireworks to prevent tampering.**

15 freeking minutes to post a message. Hmm. This sounds like a job for . . . nevermind.

I kinda figured the CR room would be rooting for Baltimore, given the RP in the room.

Daniel Johnson - No, I am not a clone. I am not a clone. I can not be a clone. There are enough differences between us to prove my point, hopefully.

That's all for now folks.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:03:15 PM
IP: max1-59.cwy.cei.net

How many layers does it take to make Valentine have an anyerism?
I just watched all of Serial Experiments Lain in one sitting. Lemme just say: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHH!!!!!
*Begins beating head on desk*
The Japanese! It's ALL THEIR FAULT!!! Would it KILL them to write a clear, easily comprehended storyline JUST ONCE!??
o.O

Ooo, and Pistoff is back! Um, you aren't gonna go blabbing about that little thing with the shirts and the leather and the spurs, right? Right? ; )

Real post later, when I figure out just exactly WHAT THE HECK just happened... o.O

Gunjack "I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Weiner" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:01:31 PM
IP: 216-146-183-92.bwn.net

KIRSHANTA - Well, there's no danger of infection from the Anne Rice books for TGS vampires, as far as I'm concerned, because I haven't read them.

(I have a theory, though, that Vlad is aware of them and really dislikes them on account of the way that they portray vampires as utterly angsty and brooding. He probably forbids Imre and Mikaella to ever read them or even peek inside the covers).

And while I'm a "Buffy" fan, I deliberately steered clear of any "Buffy" references while writing this one - except for Mikaella's name, which is an Eastern Europeanized version of "Michelle" (as in Sarah Michelle Gellar, who plays Buffy) - and that was only because I was stumped for a name for her and turned at last to a subtle "Buffy-reference" purely out of desperation.

The only vampire fiction book that I did consult while writing this was Bram Stoker's "Dracula" (the obvious classic in the field).

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 06:26:05 PM
IP: 216.87.46.5.dialup-stl.primary.net

And the nickname spreads. I hope it attaches itself to Gee Dubya like a plague.

Warpy><<This is yet another case of me having missed something due to geographical impediments, I presume...>> Oops. Yeah, it's Guy Ritchie (The new Mr. Madonna)'s new movie. Which is good, but not as good as his previous effort, Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Gar- I mean, Barrels.

Gside> <<No, jsut the classic: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.>> Ooeeooeeoo Wah wah wah.

Pissy> Welcome back! It's like old home week around here! Glad to see the Joyride is bi-partisan. Hell, throw in Nader too.

And...

PEST! Get away from Boiler this instant! I know you'll do anything female, but she could break you in half by breathing on you hard!


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 05:49:51 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

*Lynati Enters*

lain: laaaaaiiinnn! *tries to grab lain but misses*
aw, shoot!

Daniel J.: ...

Pic: no vote, the one I use is Ari's. She's so cute!
(She also looks a lot like my character Nirvana...gee, wonder why that is...)

*Lynati dashes off*
Lynati
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 05:36:57 PM
IP: 205.184.255.103

*lain rushes in and tackles Pistoff in a giant hug, much to his surprise..
"HUZZAH!!!!", she yelps, and then contemplates the wonders of using other people's Instant Messengers when they are away at boot camp.. Oooo the interesting ones you meet ;)*

love

lain
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 05:07:23 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

I just can't take this anymore. Serves me right for continuing to lurk even after I swore I'd never post in here again. But I've seen things happening in here recently that I can't ignore, and I can't remain silent any longer.

The most recent thing I've noticed is the stuff in the RPs (and general comments as well) that was pointed out not long ago. Liberal figures are targeted and hardly anybody bats an eye, yet the instant a conservative figure starts catching some flak, people rushed to the guy's defense. Maybe this is unintentional, or coincidental...or, if there's more than just two or three people who have seen this, maybe the others are just afraid to comment on it. After all, we've seen several times recently what happens to people who disagree with the majority in here.

So, to balance things out a little, I offer up these bumper sticker/T-shirt slogans...

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin

Don't blame me--I voted for Gore...I think.

My parents retired to Florida and all I got was this lousy president.

Disney gave us Mickey, Florida gave us Dumbo.

Don't throw away your vote. Let Katherine Harris do it for you.

Bush trusts the people, but not if it involves counting.

To you I'm a drunk driver; to my friends, I'm presidential material!

One person, one vote (may not apply in certain states)

I didn't vote for his daddy, either.

It ain't over till your brother counts the votes.

Banana Republicans

George W. Bush: The President Quayle we never had

The last time somebody listened to a bush, folks wandered in the desert for 40 years.

Campaign spending: $184,000,000. Having your little brother rig the election for you: Priceless.
-----

Ah, that felt good. :) Moving right along...

A random thing--I was watching the "nonconformity poll" that was going on in here a few months ago. Basically, it looked like, "Oh yeah, I'm a nonconformist too--just like all the other nonconformists in here!" Heh, just felt like commenting on it.

Another random thing--I finally started taking St. John's Wort a week or so ago. It eased up the depression a bit, but I'm still as enraged as ever, maybe even more so.

Fanfic stuff--I'm still writing, but I haven't had time to work much on it lately. I posted a new "Rising Sun" story a month or so ago. Working on #18 in my main series right now, and I've also started on another MiST. Same with email replies--I've been horribly slow to reply because I just have too many things going on in RL. It really says a lot when you go to the effort of putting a message board on your own site, and then hardly ever have time to post anything.

I've also started to concentrate a little more on writing original fiction, because I need to start making a living with my writing before I pop my last few rivits. I've just sent a little story titled "Wad"--sort of a spoof of Johnny Mnemonic ;)--to a new online publisher. Now, all I have to do is wait and see whether or not the editor has his head up his ass like all the other editors I've dealt with in the past....

Another random thing--I've watched more than a dozen episodes of Starship Troopers...and I *still* think the show sucks.

And speaking of shows that suck, I managed to survive Super Bowl Sunday (I didn't even know which teams were playing until I saw them mentioned in here, and at *no* point did I actually care...I still don't...) only to look up at the TV at work and see...Survivor 2 beginning. OH GAWDS! Wasn't the first one bad enough? Hasn't the world been tortured enough? Christ. Sooner or later I'm gonna have to Joyride the guy who created that show. (And for anybody who's not familiar with the Joyride, you'll see a sample in a moment....)

Things that *don't* suck--a while back I saw Shanghai Noon. Very funny movie. Gonna buy a copy of it when I can spare a few bucks...preferably a copy found on eBay for three dollars. :) I have to wonder about a comment I saw recently, though, about this movie. It makes fun of John Wayne?? Um...that's not the focus of the movie, really. Chan's character is named Chon Wang, and that's pretty much the extent of it. And anyway, I have to wonder what's so special about John Wayne. I've seen some of his movies, and it seemed like I was watching the same character in all of them. That ultra-macho schtick got old real fast.

But anyway, what the hell. Jackie Chan rocks. :D I can't wait to see the sequal to Shanghai Noon....

And now, because I've been itching to do this for a while...

***THE JOYRIDE CONTINUES! If you're a big fan of George W. Bush, you'd better skip the following segment.***

"You know what?" Pistoff says. "I can't let those bastards keep getting away with the crap they've been pulling."

Jack and Delilah nod. "I've been feeling itchy ever since we bailed out," Jack says. He takes a case of Fukola Cola from the fridge and puts it in a cooler. "I just need to do something."

"Do what?" Taura asks as she walks into the room.

Jack and Pistoff look at each other and grin. "I think we're gonna go out and administer some justice," both of them say at the same time.

Delilah giggles. "Cool! I was getting bored."

"Ah," Taura says. "That's what you were doing when you disappeared the last time?" The others nod, and Taura frowns. "If you're taking off, don't leave me out of it, this time."

"Sure, the more the merrier." Jack scowls at Pistoff. "I'm still gonna pay you back for the situation with Dee and Taura, by the way."

"Oh, be nice, or I'll make your life even weirder than before."

Jack grumbles and carries the cooler out to his monster hearse. The others pack some weapons and other supplies, and follow him outside. Pistoff snaps his fingers.

"There's one more person we should let in on this."

Boiler walks over to them, towering over all of them, carrying a duffel bag over her shoulder. "Alrighty, Moms, Dad, Pis. I'm ready when you are."

Jack grins. "The forces of evil in the world won't have a chance in hell, now."

Pistoff glances around, spots OJ Simpson, and points at him. "And we can start with HIM! Boiler, don't let him get away!"

OJ's eyes pop out. "Eeeeeeeeek!" He turns to run, but Boiler drops her bag, bounds up on top of the hearse and jumps off, spreads her wings and glides after OJ. She lands in front of him and grabs him, her bulging muscles moving like steel belts under her purple skin. OJ screams and struggles, but she holds him with no effort at all. Finally he whimpers, gives up and quietly pisses himself. The rest of the group walks over, moving slowly, giving OJ plenty of time to realize the end is near and there's nothing he can do to stop it.

"Okay, you murdering scumbag," Pistoff snarls, taking a small jar out of a pocket in his duster. "Know what this is? It's a Ceti Eel. I borrowed one from one of Wilek's laboratories." He takes the lid off the jar, holds the jar to OJ's ear and the eel burrows in. OJ screams in agony for several moments, then sags, staring blankly. Pistoff rubs his hands together. "Now, you'll do whatever I say. And I've thought up something appropriate." He hands OJ a Bowie knife. "Vivisect yourself."

They watch OJ's handiwork. Unfortunately, he dies before he can finish the job, but that's not unexpected.

"Next," Jack says as everyone piles into Cthulhu. Boiler, being eight feet tall, has to scrunch up quite a bit, but she manages to squeeze herself into the back. Jack starts the engine and the hearse cruises on down the street.

Delilah points out the window. "Hey, look! It's the Smirker!"

"How convenient," Pistoff comments as Jack pulls over and parks. "I've been wanting to do this for a long time." Everyone follows him over to the stage where George Bush Jr. is delivering a speech about how he thinks global warming isn't really a threat. He trails off as the Joyride Crew storms the stage.

"What the hell are you doing?"

"Dishing out a little justice, Smirker." Jack grins.

"Don't call me that! I'm the President! You are all mine to do with as I please! I'm gonna screw all of you just because I CAN!" The Smirker throws his head back and laughs like a maniac.

A team of Secret Service agents rushes up onto the stage. Boiler turns and snarls at them, her eyes glowing, and most of them turn in terror and run, and a few simply faint.

The Smirker holds up his fists like a boxer. "Bring it on! I'm from Texas! I'll kick your ass!"

Delilah laughs. "Well, slap my neck until it turns red!"

Pistoff merely smiles and takes a Flash Gordon-ish pistol from under his duster. "Know what this is, Smirker? I know a guy who has one, and he told me where I could get one for myself. It's a bowel disrupter. And you're just full of shit."

ZZZZZZZZAP!!!!!

Laughing, the Crew watches for a moment, then walks back to the hearse, leaving the Smirker screaming for his daddy to come save him.

"Gah," Boiler mutters, rubbing at her eyes. "What *was* that guy eating? I swear I thought the stench was gonna dissolve my septum."

"We're probably better off not knowing." Jack starts the engine.

"The Smirker will probably be coming after us for this," Taura said.

"Let him." Jack grins. "There are plenty of other things I'd like to do to him. I'd like to find out if he bleeds oil."

"So, who's next? How about Strom Thurmond?"

Pistoff shakes his head. "He'll be lucky if he doesn't drop dead within the next six months, anyway. I say we just let nature take its course." A slow smile spreads across his face. "I'm thinking...Al Gore."

"Hmm." Boiler nods. "I'm getting ideas already. Anybody know where we can get our hands on a swarm of woodpeckers?"

Everyone laughs gleefully as Cthulhu rumbles into the distance.

***JOYRIDE OVER, FOR NOW...and if this pissed you off, you were warned at the beginning. It's your own fault. :)***

Damn, that was nice and cathartic. :D

Pissy is back, and he's angier than ever.

Pistoff - [pistoff@cybcon.com]
"I wasn't born with enough middle fingers." --Marilyn Manson
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 03:36:03 PM
IP: bandon1-24.transport.com

OK - for the Poll
My best ones out of the new pics are:
- The Original Garlon (very slick)
- Harthoth (does anyone need me to explain this one?)

The ones that are not used, well - I was going through the list and basically most of them are never used. It's kind of sad really - it would be so much easier to find someone's post in the room if he or she had a regualr pic beside their posts.

Anyway. Just an opinion...

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 03:10:42 PM
IP: g67-219.citenet.net

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Because it's time for another world famous TGS CR poll :P

The question for the poll is:

Out of the new pictures made specifically for the comment room, which ones are you more likely to use if available? Out of the pictures currently available in the comment room, which ones do you think would get the least amount of use or no use at all?

Post all of your poll answers in the comment room. Click on my name to see the available choices. The poll will be closed once the comment room clears again and results from the poll will be given soon.

Till next time...

DumlaoX - [dumlaox@ucla.edu]
Los Angeles, CA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 02:42:39 PM
IP: host-a443224f.library.ucla.edu

LAIN: AAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! WOK AT DAT...IZN'T DAT CUUUTE??
juliaxia
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:25:29 PM
IP: dynrez217-32-81.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Lexxy> thanks! I've emailed you =) There are several people that I know that will not attend this year's Gathering because of the cost of the hotel and the dinner. They were also disappointed when they saw the cost of G02 in Virginia Beach. We realize that it did not list the con rates, but I can't imagine them dropping the rates down as much as what will need to be for it to be considered "reasonable" for most college and high school students.
Anyway, I look forward to hearing what your plans are to help offset the cost :)

Jannie
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 09:23:25 AM
IP: 209-83-228-122.hou.port.mytelco.com

For those of you that enjoyed Fan Week on "Dakota's Ridge", be prepared for a little change of scenery -- I'm returning for a brief stint as guest artist for the next week or so. "Dakota's Ridge" creator Angie McClelland is going to be away for a while due to a death in the family so I'm working from her script and filling in as guest artist until she can return. New strips should be going up sometime later today.

If you catch Jessie online, I'm sure she would appreciate your condolences and well-wishes. Thank you very much.

Spike - [<==<< Dakota's Ridge]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 09:06:12 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-185.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Hey all!! Top o' da mornin' to ya. (Sorry - too much cafeine)

Todd < good points about the vampires being foreshadowed from the biginning.

My only concern is that, with so many vampire books and movies and fans in here who've read them all, we will have an endless debate on why something or some vampire or some curse or some area of the world mentionned in one of Anne Rice's novels is not refered to in TGS.

I hope everyone will appreciate how much work it is going to take the TGS staff to come up with a whole new background and storyboard for THESE vampires, without using stuff that has already been used, either in Buffy, Anne Rice, or Blade.

I for one, wish them the best of luck. A whole new generation of vampires, unique to the Gargoyle world is exactly what this should be about. After all - Gargoyles was a whole new concept all to itself and that's what made it such a hit.

OK - I'm going to dump the rest of my chocolate-raspberry coffee down the drain. This is way too profound first thing in the morning.

Although...chocolate-raspberry. Hummm....

PS < You guys who stay online for 7 HOURS with nothing more to go on than MUFFIN!!! The insanity in this room will never cease to amaze me.

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 08:25:22 AM
IP: g67-219.citenet.net

Lynati:
Hey, I just thought of something: Warp's head must be blue!

It's off to work I go...

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:29:25 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Lynati:
Hmmm, jealous are we? Don't worry: he's not my type. Although I am attracted by shiny objects. Not shiny BLUE objects like SOME people are. *VEG*

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 07:24:47 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Gside: wrong muffin. this was somethign else ENTIRELY.
Lynati
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 02:38:17 AM
IP: 207.94.232.102

I am happy. I finally got Vampire Savior. After an inordinate number of time outs and lacks of server response.

Gunjack> <<Ever seen what a good varmint (superfast expanding, to the layman) bullet does to a cabbage?>>: Nope. Sounds like fun. Superfast expanding like fun on its own sounds.
<<you've been posting at least as long as I have>>: Not true. You were posting well over five months before me. At least that's the earlies post of yours that I can find (June 7 '99, as opposed to my November 17 (or 14 depending on what you count) '99).
<<you don't have to eat them>>: But it is still a question to ponder.
<<Instant death?>>: Well, I was trying to keep the Mario reference running.
<<Creepy, ne?>>: I'd say so. And you post in green, too.
<<Is he the "Never eat alka-seltzer" guy?>>: Oh yeah. This time he's reminding you that there's a reason they don't build houses out of Malt-o-meal. And it looks like he's returning tomorrow. Fun.
<<That was the last strip I read last night before going to wang. Bed>>: You wang. Learn.
<<Good Lord, NO!>>: Well, I wasn't planning on actually quilding the device (though you never know what you might need to protect the city from giant rampaging monsters). I was more thinking of something that is indisputably fun that runs off diesel. Maybe something that spells "FUN", but that's too artsy, and I'm a wang. Engineer.
<<Though you CAN neatly conceal grenades and such in the WBHs they leave>>: Something must be wang. Wrong. I just can't parse that wang. Acronym.
<<Please, no one say "Daikatana" right now>>: You know how dangerous it is to say that, right? ...Daikawang. Tana.
<<I wanted to test out the Michael's Smile effect>>: Hey, maybe taht would correct the CR wang. Clock. No, wait it slows timpieces, not accelerates. Maybe if you apply it everywhere but here... No, that wouldn't be any fun.

New TGS: **SPOILERS** Very nice once again. Though it did seem like there was some sort of contest on not saying vampire. I got it within the first few sentences. But then I did just finish reading Carpe Jugulum, and I have always been interesten in what might be family history. Though I was a tad surprised there was no mention of the forest of the dead (or whatever it was called). I mean the guy did earn the nickname "the Impaler."**/SPOILERS**

Warpmind> <<the educational system in Norway is a LOT different from the US system>>: True, but one would expect a comparable education would require a comparable time frame in which it should be acquired.
<<I think that one was already done>>: But can it be overdone?

Fare thee well, Green Baron.

Tonic Shaker> <<how the modern day Santa Claus was "invented" by the Coke industry>>: As far as I know, they just colored him red.

Lain> <<..."Muffin?">>: Tread carefully. Muffin is a good woman who can do many things for her people.

Gunjack> <<*notices the sudden and total silence in the CR*>>: Sounded normal to me.

Revel> <<maybe I should download navigator>>: Join us. Do not be afraid.

Aaron> <<And have you been watching Mean Guns?>>: No, jsut the classic: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
<<That’s your brother, right?>>: Nope, that's Michael Krahulik, the artist of the pair Gabriel and Tycho Brahe. He has a thing for wang, park benches, and squirrels. He derves pleasure from games in his pants. And don't mention the wanghangers. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that. Don't want to destroy anyone's minds. Chip clips.
<<hose are a sign of retinal detachment?>>: No, just all of them deciding to pass through your eye at once.
Thank you for the well wishes.
<<I just installed Netscape 6, only to discover, to my horror, that it doesn't function anything like 4.7>>: Join the club. There are some things I miss, and mine doesn't seem to want to keep a history. But I'm still with it.

Daniel Johnson> <<My man, the size of your posts seem to be expanding at an exponential rate>>: Yeah, and look at what it's doing to Wilek. You'd better get in here more often.

Warpmind> <<I'm getting my head Grimtooth-certified>>: But will that ensure that your head gets no damage?

L,L,&G> <<you, me, and lain had been goin' at it for the last seven hours and for him to come join us>>: I think I'm going to be out of a job here soon.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 02:02:17 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

what's yer Hotmail addy??

lain
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:46:13 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

PLEASE tell me Hotmail Messenger=MSN Chat...
Warpmind de InzanE
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:42:23 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

@£$12#!"¤%&"%&"#%&"%&¤#

On the move - keep Lynati busy, will ya, Lain and Valentine? *Scrambles off to his old, hardly-ever-used Hotmail account.*
Warpmind de InzanE
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:38:01 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

no.. you need hotmail messenger..

lain
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:36:13 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Wait... would AIM work, or is it an entirely different system?
Warpmind de InzanE
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:27:03 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

Odd; what're your handles, girls? (I'm not too sure whether or not you fall into that category, Valentine...)

Mine is WarpminddeInzanE

*Scratches head*
Warpmind de InzanE
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:22:29 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

Lain says:
lyn, you get him yet??
Lynati says:
trying...
Lain says:
*passes Lynati a lasso*
Valentine says:
eep!
Lain says:
heh heh
Lynati says:
e-mailed him and said you, me, and lain had been goin' at it for the last seven hours and for him to come join us...
Valentine says:
O.O
Lynati says:
I.M., I mean...
Valentine says:
*chokes on drink*
Lain says:
LOL
Valentine says:
*dies laughing*
Lynati says:
*ROTFGM*
Valentine says:
that was soooooooooooo wrong...
Valentine says:
evil!
Lain says:
*is pretty near laughing death herself..*
Valentine says:
AAEEEVILL!
Lain says:
heh ehhehehehehehe!!!
Lynati says:
*laughing almosttoo hard to writej* BWAHAHAHHHAHHAA
Valentine says:
Like the fruuiats of the DEAVIL!
Lain says:
late night IM will do this to you..
Valentine says:
won't it though?


heh heh..

lain, Lynati and Valentine
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:15:50 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

lain: *hurt* Hey, I thought you didn't want anyone interrupting our Tori-Bondage...
(err, by which I mean our bonding thu early Tori Amos music...)
Lynati
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 01:13:00 AM
IP: 207.94.232.102

WARPS!!! GO DOWNLOAD INSTANT MESSENGER QUICK BEFORE LYNATI GOES COMPLETELY OFF IT!!!!!
lain
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:58:06 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*Warpmind enters, selfconciously rubbing his bald scalp, snacking on Chupa Chups.*
Top o'the mornin', everyone.

Lynati: *Returns adoring gaze* I dreamed of you again tonight... Hmmm... For the sake of the CR, I'd better tell you in an e-mail, instead...

Kirshanta: Broadway's clone was smashed in Christine's ficverse.

Spike: So, let's hope the preview WORKS this time, then...

Aaron: Snatch preview? *Sighs* This is yet another case of me having missed something due to geographical impediments, I presume...

Daniel Johnson: Hey, there! No rubbing my head, even for good luck! *Slowly begins initiating the Backfire Matrix* You better not try that again; I'm getting my head Grimtooth-certified. ];)

Well, that's about it. I'm off to try to download that Despair and Deliverance bit; I probably have to get RealPlayer, too... :| Oh, well. Later.

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:37:08 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

Daniel J. :*delayed growl for anauthorized warpmind-petting*
Lynati
Monday, January 29, 2001 11:40:06 PM
IP: 205.184.255.35

Lynati:
Blink. All of you are completely insane; you do know that, don't you?
I remember once I stayed up for almost six hours in a chat room. Fire Storm should remember that one. :)

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 11:23:58 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

********THIS IS FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THE HOTEL
FOR THE GATHERING 2001***********************************

Ok. I know the price for the hotel this year is..well triple that of last year. I have a solution. Email me ok? And we can talk. I am organizing with other fans, and we are going to make this work. If you can afford the flight, but not the hotel, but are willing to still try to get to the Gathering then please Email me! Just hear me out ok? It's worth a shot!!

That is all!


Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:59:39 PM
IP: ac88c770.ipt.aol.com

Daniel Johnson: I have been on IM with both Valentine and lain for the last..whoa. six hours, and it's definately NOT lain who is being corrupted. The little minx. at least Valentine isn't trying to...nevermind. Bad Green lain! No cookie for you! And give back my shirt!
Lynati
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49:47 PM
IP: posseisdn96.the-posse.com

Traveler:
*Gets whapped with fish* Ow! Hey! What the... *traceroutes IP* Oh, from Buffalo, are we? Sorry, I should have said "New York City doesn't really have a football team." My bad.
----
Gunjack:
My man, the size of your posts seem to be expanding at an exponential rate.
<<You think *I* encourage Lain?>> Yes, I do. Sweet, innocent lain has been corrupted by your evil influence. It's really quite shocking. ;)

<<She's in my prayers>> Thank you.

<<Never heard of eating weed straight before>> How about chewing raw coca leaves? It's actually quite healthy. It increases the efficiency with which your body uses oxygen. This makes it especially beneficial at high altitudes and is done regularly by the people of the Andes.
----
*Rubs Warpmind's bald head for luck* Hey, I can see myself!
----
*Reads lain's post* See, Gunjack; corruption. And it's all your fault. :P
----
GB:
Aww, bye! Good luck!
----
Gunjack (again):
"Muffin?" I am normally an inquisitive person, but some things are just not meant to be known.
----
DPH:
<<I refuse to accept the fact that I am the clone.>> Ah, self-delusion is an intriguing phenomenon.
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Um, that's enough for now.

At the tone the time will be 11:02:30 pm EST

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:32:28 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

***THOUGHTS ON NEW SURVIVOR***

Well, I liked the first episode....it's going to take me a few weeks to really get into this new cast, and it's yet to be determined whether this new bunch will have the same perverse charm that the others had.

Overall, though, this new cast does have a few potential winners. Colby, the auto guy, seems like he has a rather dynamic personality, one which could be interesting to watch. Jeff, the perpetually nauseous software designer, is someone who I think is the most like Rich from the original show (and, as a result, is the individual who I can feel myself growing to hate). Maralyne (sp?), the big butch ex-police officer, seems like she may be fun to watch. And kudos to Mark Burnett for casting a whole bunch of cute girls this time around! So far, Amber might be my favorite, with Elisabeth close behind...the actress may be a bit of a bitch, though. The fitness teacher, however, looks like she should be sporting a penis, and I can't stand Kimmy because of that godawful Long Island, New Yawk, even though she did have the best line of the first episode (if you watched the show, you know what I'm talking about. She was complaining that, due to lack of privacy, there was no where for her to slip away to "stir the soup".).

I was a bit sad to see Deb go, because as was reported earlier, she was the woman who married her stepson, a fact which could have made for fascinating television, should she have ever had to explain it to her fellow castaways.

The immunity challenge was sort of fun, just to see the other tribe so totally fall apart as they tried to win. Unfortunately, we still have waaaaay too much Jeff Probst sticking his Banana Republic clad hiney in our faces.

Overall, a nice first episode, with the promise of good things to come as next week it looks as if they're gonna make the survivors eat a bunch of disgusting animals and/or insects!

So far, those on my list of the Survivors I hate: Jeff, the software designer; The Harvard law student, whose name I can't remember, just because he seems like a bit of a slicky boy to me; and Kimmy, because while she is somewhat attractive, you have to subract about 58 points because of that horrible accent.

***END SURVIVOR THOUGHTS***

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:02:09 PM
IP: 207-172-53-100.s100.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

WINTER Snow can wait, I forgot my mittens,
Wipe my nose, get my new boots on,
I get a little warm in my heart when I think of winter
I put my hands in my father's glove

I run off where the DRIFTS GET DEEPER
Sleeping beauty trips me with a frown
I hear a voice, "you must learn to stand up
for yourself cause I can't always be around.."

He says, "when you gonna make up your mind?
When you gonna love you as much as I do
When you gonna make up your mind
cos things are gonna CHANGE so fast.."

all the white horses are still in bed
I tell you I'll always want you near
You say that things change

Boys get discovered as winter MELTS
Flowers competing for the sun
Years go by and I'm here still waiting
With a ring where some snowman was
Mirror mirror where's the Crystal Palace
But I only can see myself..
SKATING around the truth who I am
But I know, dad, the ice is getting thin..

Hair is grey and the fires are burning
So many dreams on the shelf
You said I wanted you to be PROUD of me
I always wanted that myself..

oh
when you gonna make up your mind
when you gonna love you as much as I do
when you gonna make up your mind
cos things are gonna change so fast
all the WHITE HORSES have gone ahead
i tell you i'll always want you near
you say that things change
my dear..
-Tori

hmmmm... not much else to say..
I am so very tired.. tired to the bone
Gotta stay up to hunt down GB, though ;) he thinks he's gettin away so easy, eh??

Lyn>> *huggles* you are a sweetie :)

I must go..
love to all

lain
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:59:19 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Yeehaw! My Ravens won! Yeah! :) I also thought Trent Dilfer did a wonderful job last night...I had honestly never heard of him before, and now I'm extremely impressed. The Ravens just dominated last night. :)

Christine> Oh, man, it's nice to know another Survivor addict out there! I was so glad Deb got kicked off...she got on my nerves too. Although they really made it seem like Jeff was gonna go just 'cuz he got sick...and I totally agree with you on NBC freaking out. I mean, make "Friends" go for 40 minutes? Nah. I hope Survivor kicks around "Friends" a little bit...(I've never really been a "Friends" fan...sorry to those that are)

...BTW, my new Survivor hero is Colby. Go, Colby! Not only is he an auto customizer (and a DARN cute one at that!), but who else brought along their cowboy hat and one heck of a HUGE Texas flag? I thought it was so funny that they used the flag for the roof of their shelter. :) I'd have to boot Kimmi off next...she gets on my nerves too. ;)

Stupid Survivor Question> How come no one thinks to bring matches as their luxury item? ;) (or do they have rules against that?)

Coyote> I'd have to agree with ya...if it came down to a battle of the teams, I'd have to go with Ogakor. They seemed to work really well together on the challenge last night. **laughs** And by the way, I LOVE the nicknames. :) A lot funnier than the real racing nicknames people have given me...I'm not sure whether they're inside jokes or what, but I guess they're cool. ;)

GB> ACK! He's leavin'! NOOO!!! Who am I gonna talk politics with??? Oh, man, GB...I'm gonna miss ya! **hugs**

Well, I'm off to read the new TGS...have fun, y'all! :)

Lady Corax - [a.k.a. "Queen of the Strip"]
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:48:53 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Did Kennedy ever Philibuster Ashcroft? Or did he realize that he could only hold out till the bars opened?

Hmm, am I the only one who thinks that Ashcroft was nominated to draw attention away from the positions The Smirker really doesn't want looked at... Like the Interior department for instance.

Warpy> Yeah, I suppose you do look more like the Kurgon, you big bald

fellow! (Sorry, seen the Snatch preview too many times)

FS> But Chief! Well, how 'bout the Closet of Silence?

Lynati> Yeah, that’s me. So, uh, whatcha think?

GB> True, I’m not a Baptist, (I’m a pagan) but I have relatives who are, and I’m a bit testy about it. And best of luck with basic.

Christine> Yep, I was and still am one of the melanin-challenged. <<Reading>> I say go for it. You did that reading at G2K, and it was quite good. BTW, I finally found time to sit down and read your second book. Me likes. But, I gotta ask: Does Alinora become Solarrin's luv slave in the third book?

Jannie> I’m not arguing Clinton’s motives, I’m just saying I felt genuinely moved during his speech, in a way that I didn’t during the Smirker’s, and I don’t even like Bill all that much. I do think he’s a brilliant politician, which of course is sort of a dubious compliment. Kinda like being a wonderful used car salesman, or a great con man. And hey, at least it wasn’t a pie.

Juliaexia> Welcome to the asylum. Please deposit your sanity, if you have any, with Robby, and try not to trip on the hentai tentacles.

Blue Caeru> Welcome back! Haven’t seen you in forever.

Gside> Is it possible to have a Mexican Standoff without any Mexicans? And have you been watching Mean Guns? <<I think I just channeled Gabe for a second.>> That’s your brother, right? <<"floaters," aka those dead blood cells you can see when the light's right and you don't focus>> Those are a sign of retinal detachment?!? Oh dear. I’ve had those for years. And happy, belated birthday.

Lain> OD’d on Douglas Adams, eh? <<if fathers are allowed to give looks that resemble "dude">> Which is creepier, when you say something that sounds like a parent, or when a parent says something that sounds like you?

Guandalug> Glad the Adult Archive was so easy to adapt.

Gunjack> I never tell the odds! And is that sexupposexed to be a sexubliminal sexuggesextion or what? <<I.E. 5>> I sympathize. I just installed Netscape 6, only to discover, to my horror, that it doesn't function anything like 4.7. <<How much damage does a proton torpedo do, anyway?>> Well, two of them can blow up a Death Star. ;)

Tim> I thought REM broke up. And not a minute too soon. (Sorry Greg, I don't care about their ideology, I just don't like their music) "I park my car in handicapped spaces..."

Spacebabie> Well, The Sopranos has to be experienced as a whole to be truly appreciated. Otherwise the meta-plot gets obscured. And I’d rather see them win then get robbed by, blah, The West Wing all the time. (Of course, I’d like OZ to get some more attention too, but it’s probably a little harsh for most people) And you're 24?!? Geez, when I met you, I thought you were like 17, 18 at most. But then, I've always been lousy at judging ages.

Daniel Johnson> I think Patrick Toman posted that in one of the other rooms. And hey, why not? It’s hardly the first time something like this has happened. Certainly small potatoes compared to the stuff LBJ did on the way out.

DumlaoX> Welcome back.

SJ><< I’m not gonna make him settle his differences with the heroes by sitting down and playing a game of Monopoly.>> This from the guy who played Yatzee to the death with a demon? ;) <<I LOATHE New York sports teams....>> Death, stop glowering at SJ. Not everyone *has* to be a rabid Knicks fan, ya know.

Skippy> Welcome back. Like Kyryn said, see ya at A-Kon.

Doug> Yeah, I was mostly kidding about having the wedding at The Gathering anyway. On the other hand, it could help inflate the attendance figures...

GXB> Is this a bad time to mention that I blame Cobain for Michael Hutchence (sp) hanging himself? <<what ever other crap TNT plays>> Like, say, the best basketball coverage in the country? (Death and Aaron both glower at Greg) But yes, I didn't watch the superbowl either. Soprano's Marathon on HBO, baby!

Mandi> Hey, congrats on the nomination.

Mary> Sorry things didn't work out, but hey, love arrives when least expected. (Hugs Mara)

Tonic Shaker> Welcome. Interesting name you've got there.

SRS> Sorry about the eye thing, congrats on the new glasses.

Kirshanta> Welcome. Hollywood only died, to my knowledge, in Christine's ficverse.

Geez, I'm gettin' to be like Wilek or something.

Still not Traveler-esque tho'.

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:30:40 PM
IP: 201-pool2.ras10.txhou.agisdial.net

For all interested, an audio preview of the Audio Theatre adaptation of Christi Smith Hayden's "Despair and Deliverance" is available at the MacDuff Entertainment website.
MacDuff Entertainment - [hearmacduff@email.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:20:20 PM
IP: dial-123-12.dial.indiana.edu

**Holographic smiles start appearing everywhere in the CR room.**

**WORK RELATED**
I finally got the last interview today and I will be going full-time. It was nice to see the guy AGAIN. When I started running the glue machine, I met that guy. He even asked if I am still gluing. So there was no 'interview', just 'hey, I remember you' and the application went through without any serious questions. Now, I just have to wait for the darn background check and then take a drug test.
**END WORK RELATED**

It's coming. Yep, it's coming. Just a few more days. I have already given clues what the reference is to. I just wonder if the online CLONE can figure it out.

Daniel Johnson - I refuse to accept the fact that I am the clone. I will have to keep digging to find enough differences to ensure that we are not clones.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 07:01:52 PM
IP: max1-16.cwy.cei.net

Caliope>Yes, the italian restaraunt, Strings, is still open. It was reinovated a few years back so it has a new look. And it still serves good food. :)
Mary Flanders
Monday, January 29, 2001 06:53:04 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Okay, Well like I said things are already beginning to get hectic and I find myself here in the lab. Oh well, maybe I should download navigator like Robby and see what happens.
Other than that I have nothinh else to say except one little thing.
Would you ever buy somebody a log for Christmas or a birthday? (Think Ren & Stimpy)
Ooe of the guys in my graphic design class did that for his brother.
I laughed.
Later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the big bad art lab
Monday, January 29, 2001 06:47:11 PM
IP: labmacbi87526.artlab.unt.edu

* BRIEF AUTHOR'S COMMENT ON THE LATEST TGS *

Actually, vampires would have to have shown up in "Gargoyles" sooner or later, regardless of "Buffy", if you stop to think it over. Both vampires and Dracula were mentioned a number of times in the original series:

1. When Elisa is exploring Castle Wyvern in "Awakening Part Three", she comments, "Don't tell me; this is where Dracula shows up."

2. When Demona's hired thugs arrive at her house in "The Mirror", one asks, "Who lives here, anyway, Dracula's daughter?"

3. When Bronx is howling on the Irish moor in "The Hound of Ulster", Elisa comments that she doesn't know whether to expect vampires or Sherlock Holmes.

4. In "Ill Met By Moonlight", Princess Katharine mentions that silver is proof against vampires and weres, the same as cold iron is against the fay.

And we all know that when anything mythological gets mentioned in "Gargoyles", it's sure to show up sooner or later (think of Elisa's mention of Loch Ness to Matt in "The Edge", for example).

* AUTHOR'S COMMENT ENDS *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, January 29, 2001 06:20:19 PM
IP: 216.87.46.106.dialup-stl.primary.net

*spots GB*

Bitsy Pookums! Where have you been!?
*notices the sudden and total silence in the CR*
...What? o.O

Gunjack "Muffin" Valentine
Monday, January 29, 2001 06:15:47 PM
IP: 216-146-184-199.bwn.net

*Lyanti poke her head in.*

Looks from Green Baron to Valentine.
Elbows lain.
..."Muffin?"
*ROTFGM*

*Gone*

Lynati
Monday, January 29, 2001 05:55:13 PM
IP: 205.184.255.173

*** TGS SPOILERS ***
ED < You know, after due consideration, I beleive I am also glad that they did not introduce a new -less than beleivable character instead of Margot. However, I don't like her and since she pisses me off so, I don't think she deserves to be so prominent a character. (I guess she fulfills her role then doesn't she?)

As for Demona, I kind of like the new her - I mean before her hundreds of years of awful time, she was trusting and good - enough for Goliath to have chosen her. I think it's only natural that she return to true self - although I agree that it takes time and I appreciate that they did not try to rush it.

Al though, if we could turn her genocidal tendancies toward Margot Yale...
(Kirshanta exits, plotting silently)

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 05:27:54 PM
IP: g67-95.citenet.net

Happy¡¡¡ Happy¡¡¡ Joy¡¡¡ JoyC¡¡¡

Fox is show Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot.

Which if I'm not mistaken is something Greg Weisman worked on.

Starsinger
Monday, January 29, 2001 05:25:16 PM
IP: proxy-1412.public.svc.webtv.net

GARGOYLES: 'THICKER THAN BLOOD'

***More comments and spoilers in this post***

Kirshanta: Heh, it's great to be commenting. I've ended up getting behind on several TGS seasons in the past (the last Timedancer and both Dark Ages seasons, mainly).

Regarding the 'Buffy' influence, I too was really concerned that we were just going to get Lexington the Vampire Slayer from the opening. I'm not a massive 'Buffy' fan, but I quite like a lot of the stuff in it (and even more so in its spin-off), but it'll be a shame if TGS doesn't try and carve something unique out of the vampire legends. So far there's the great historical context that makes the show unique there - but nothing that groundbreaking has yet emerged. Of course, the fact that gargoyles already had a vampire explanation with Vince etc. was actually very nicely tied in with Madoc being the originator for both. Nice and cohesive.

As for Margot though, I think she's been growing in importance since 'THE JOURNEY'. And whilst on one level I suppose this was Greg's chance to write out as many of his regular background characters as he could, she (like Vinnie, the Jogger, and Billy's mum) is also a great representation of what a good deal of people must be thinking. Just as Vinnie came into growing prominence through ‘VENDETTAS’ and ‘THE JOURNEY’, it makes perfect sense to me that Margot should grow in importance. I’m relieved that Margot was used instead of inventing somebody else whom we may have felt less identification with having not seen them escape about twenty scrapes before. Here’s hoping that we see more background characters groomed in such a way.

Question 1: Personally, I hope Demona’s planning something, in which case I don’t have a problem with her current lack of prominence. Maybe something a little more selectively genocidal in the light of her friendship with Andrea and Angela. But something dangerous nonetheless. Actually, I’d rather like to see her find a way to turn Andrea into a gargoyle, perhaps if she considered that she deserved to be a gargoyle and it was probably just a blip of fate that made her a human. I must admit, I’m not as interested in TGS’s Demona as she seems to have been largely defanged recently but hopefully the end of the Unseelie War (a logical reason for the suppression of her xenophobia) and the resurgence of unrest with the gargoyles will shake things up a little.

Question 2: I certainly don’t remember any such event. But then you know how dire my memory is. Wasn't it Hollywood that nearly got killed in "THINGS FALL APART" though?

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Monday, January 29, 2001 05:08:30 PM
IP: aca8864e.ipt.aol.com

This is so cool! I-'M talking to la-ain!!
wheee!
Lynati
Monday, January 29, 2001 04:21:16 PM
IP: 207.94.232.221

The Green Baron appears while a jeep is following

Well, this will be my last post until April, I imagine.

Tonight is my last night in New Orleans. I will be spending it at the Quality Inn on the Causeway, which none fo you have heard of, but Lain is determined to get the phoen number :) **smooches Lain**

A few of you will be getting mail from me, since I have yoru addresses: Xena Trek, Lain, Doug and Kit, Starsinger, Lawrence, Heather, and Bronx. I imagine one of you will be posting my new address as soon as you get a letter from me. Since Basic Training won't start until February 9, it may be a few weeks.

I have come to enjoy thsi family community and while it is only a hiatus of ten weeks or so, I will miss all of you.

**The van pulls up with Mr. T in an MP uniform and Reverend Attila in a WWII General's uniform. Green Baron enters the jeep with his grandfather's WWII duffel bag as he enetrs teh jeep and it pulls off**

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
New Orleans, Louisiana
Monday, January 29, 2001 04:09:33 PM
IP: adsl-78-220-248.msy.bellsouth.net

XenaTrek < Thanx for the explanation. Good to hear that GB will be returning one day - though his next few months don't sound like much fun...

ED < How wonderful to have you with us. I know, I know. I'm being repetitive and it might go to your head but hey - you deserve it. I love your comments on TGS. Espceially since I agree with most of them.

**** TGS SPOILERS ***

OK all you Buffy fans out there - I hope you're happy. They managed to ruin a perfectly good saga by throwing in their lot in with everyone else's melting pot for the past 2 years - vampires.
I must admit, those were my first thoughts upon reading this week's story. (Because it is fairly obvious early on what the Tepes family really is.)

But, after reading it thoroughly and with misgivings, I am reluctantly forced to agree with Ed. These vampires are perfect for our gargoyles. I think what makes it all easier to digest is the fact that they are part of the Unseelie - which makes them belong to the Gargoyle world much more than they otherwise would have. It makes them part of the saga's extended family and much easier to swallow. (For me anyway, one of the few NON-BUFFY FANS in this CR)
I also agree that the plot flowed much better, due in most part to the fact that it was not flooded with plotlines but maintained subtility and details almost flawlessly. If it wasn't for the Lex-Brooklyn confrontation, we could almost skip over the first two stories and pretend they never happened.

I think the blood-machine or whatever was actually very important bacause it prevented the vampires from being detected as such. I think that the way it's destruction was brought on was also nicely woven into the plot so as not to make it too obvious (such as Broadway breaking through a window and landing on the machine, thus breaking it would have)

The title was actually well thought out - seeing as tensions were high at the end of the last story between Brooklyn and the rest of the clan.

I also thought it very interesting that Talon's protector side is being dabbled into - good opening for future stories.

I somewhat dislike the fact that Margot Yale is starting to become a more important and visible character. He and Brendan were originally side-kicks, to be seen and laughed at at almost every show. Now, she is subtely being pushed to the forefront of the newest anti-gargoyle trend.
But I suppose I should be glad - after all it IS being done subtely...

*** END SPOILERS ***

Question < Where has Demona been during the new season? Other than a brief refrence in the latest TGS (very nicely done by the way) she has disspeared off the face of the earth.

Question < I get mixed up between TGS and some of Christine's fanfic. Did Broadway's clone get shattered by the Quarrymen in TGS (the REAL timeline) or in fanfic?

That's all for now...

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 02:16:01 PM
IP: g67-95.citenet.net

Lynati > have you checked out Mr. Flibble's interview page on http://www.reddwarf.co.uk ? He's so cuuuuuute!

Stephen > glad to hear about the glasses!

Superbowl > we watched it, but truth be told, mostly for the commercials and because we didn't want to miss a single second of Survivor II. ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 01:35:08 PM
IP: 16-181.075.popsite.net

GARGOYLES: ‘THICKER THAN BLOOD’

***Post contains comments and spoilers***

What a lovely episode: it flowed for the most part really well, and where it sought to develop characters they were very well done. I also noticed that it diplomatically shied away from topics which really would have only complicated the issue: specifically Brooklyn’s relationship with Lex, and Goliath and Elisa’s announcement. Everything kept really nicely together making it comprehensive and easy to read.

Firstly, the new family of vampires. At first I must admit I was kind of sceptical, especially when I remembered how Todd was saying that he had fears of stepping on Buffy’s toes with werewolves in ‘Pendragon’ (my, how he must have jumped when Dracula also appeared :)). But by the end of the story I was convinced – these guys are the PERFECT magical counterpart to the gargoyle civil rights running plot.

As villains, they’re extremely endearing – no cliché malarkey here. For one, the villains were genuinely uninterested in getting in the way of the gargoyles, even in the long-term. And having a family of villains is an interesting idea. I suppose the Unseelie Court touched on this before, but Umbriel was always fairly separate. I think Vlad, Elizabeth, Mikaella and Imre are a very cohesive group – they bicker and have generation clashes; in fact, the parents and children really see to have little more than disdain for each other, but nonetheless work together. It’s a wonderful vampire-tinted family reflection. That said, there are some parallels to Maddox in season 1, with a mysterious and wealthy European gentleman with a dark secret arriving. Thankfully though, this was a big strength of the story rather than a deja-vu point.

Lexington’s development was just wonderful: but even better is the comment it implicitly makes on Gargoyles-human relations. Lexington judges Vlad to be a bad guy because of the Maddox parallels and better still the staff had the guts to make the prejudices RIGHT. But, as Broadway points out, he’s applying exactly the same logic that Margot is using. In many ways Margot is also right – the gargoyles have smashed her property to bits, and stoked up violence in the city. In some ways I was a bit sad to see her lose her chance to nail the gargoyles on the security footage – but then, Brendan I imagine would have set the story straight in the end anyway so it was probably just as well to get a laugh out of it. Incidentally, I really thought Brendan was going to die then, great writing.

There wasn’t a slip-up on consequences. The bat-gargoyle connection was wonderful, but when the gargoyles were doing their detective work it was lovely to see Talon’s response to the vampires – great to see him acknowledge and step to defend his protectorate. Speaking of protectorates, isn’t it lovely how Dracon and his boys – whose parallels with the gargoyles were shown in ‘PROTECTION’ – are now even more like the gargoyles? I hope they play a big role: Dracon’s character is blossoming from a fun but ultimately two-dimensional gangster to a great and entertaining anti-hero in his own right.

As entertaining villains go though, surely Nicole St. John is brilliant – brilliant because she’s funny, brilliant because she picks up genuine questions that people have, and brilliant because Todd so effortlessly (and hilariously) paralleled them with Vlad. It’s those little touches that make the episode: the title too. Apart from the obvious ‘blood’ relation, there are genuine points where people’s goals are thicker than blood – Vlad’s disdain for his kids, Dracon’s disinterest in Vince, the tensions between Elisa and Margot. Come to think of it, the Brooklyn-Lex deal might have worked here too, although it still was nicely uncomplicated left as it was.

There were some parts I didn’t like. I thought Dracon’s warning to Vlad could have been more subtle, and the destruction of the blood-emulating machine (or whatever it was) seemed a rather clunky plot twist forced through sheer coincidence and fluke. I’m also not that big a fan of this whole ‘big bad’ structure. It works for ‘Pendragon’: Arthur is a quest-based warrior who goes out and seeks an adversary. But with the gargoyles, they’re territorial and although inevitably some heroes and villains will wax and wane in prominence, I hope we don’t get the situation where each season involves a new bunch of villains giving the clan a torrid time and then packing up when all’s done.

Still, we got a good deal of set-up: hints regarding the legacy of Madoc, the jeopardising of Matt’s job which I’m sure Margot won’t let die yet, and the rising anti-gargoyle fury now the Fimbulwinter and the Rising is over. The next episode is only a week away – I for one can’t wait!

Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Monday, January 29, 2001 01:17:58 PM
IP: ac8a02ae.ipt.aol.com

*Lynati enters*

Am going to attempt to submit a piece for the miniposter- caledar, whichever- contest after all. If I can finish it on time...

###TGS spoiler?###
A vampire biting Lex? Why does that seem so familiar...?
Liked Mikaella's body-change; that was a good little twist.
###End###

lain: *sulky* am NOT. And yeah, I have the first eight episodes...I mentioned that a while back, right after I saw episode three, I think.
Two Quetions (not anime related)
1. What is your actual e-mail address? I have, like, 3 for you.
2. ...What did you think of the song, D@%%it?! No, no, the parody on the back of the fruitcake card?

Warpmind: *adoring gaze*

Green Baron: I didn't know you were leaving...where are you going?

Later for me.
*Lynati exits*
Lynati
Monday, January 29, 2001 01:05:56 PM
IP: 205.184.255.156

Kirshanta > Re: GB Departure >> He's leaving for basic training in Okalahoma (sp?) for a few months, so he's not leaving indefinately. Gaining internet access while on base is not an easy task, at least from my experience as a civil service employee while working on a Navy Base. There is a *lot* of red tape to go thru and it is monitored 24/7.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:53:57 PM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

SJ < The XFL is ON!!! I can't wait.

GB < I din't know you were leaving us (correct me if I'm wrong) - rest assured you will be missed.

Ok - I'm off to see if this week's TGS is an improvement over the last two. Later...

Kirshanta - [kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:01:40 PM
IP: g67-95.citenet.net

XenaTrek>> yes, my dear.. today is the day of GB being shipped out..

*sighs forlornly*

GB you better write me, you hear??? *hugs*

lain
Monday, January 29, 2001 11:13:33 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Calope>(Hugged) I remember you just fine :D
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49:35 AM
IP: h2odam.sdccd.cc.ca.us

Spacebabie: Re: pokemon gold >> Addicting isn't it? One of my friends loaned me blue a few months back, but took it way cuz I spent way too much time on it vs paying attention to him. :oP
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:43:19 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Daniel> *chuckles* I knew the answer to the political symbols question, but I did go to a resource to put it into better words and to add the dates.
I was so excited that I FINALLY knew an answer to someone's question in here and then had trouble posting it! Ask Denis! I kept whining to him about not being able to post! *L*

Congrats to the supporters of the Ravens for the spectacular Super Bowl win :) I watched bits and pieces of it - mainly for the commercials ;)

Jannie
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:10:37 AM
IP: 209-144-251-61.hou.port.mytelco.com

GB>>> Shipping off soon?::Crys:: and another thing about that really sucks is that his lovely "Preston Vogel" locks will be shaved off.

SPOILER~~~~~~~For~~~~~~~~~~TGS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Whoa! Gotta love them Vampires. good to see more of dracon again. and is it me or were there times that Mikaila resembled Drusilla?
hmmm if M=D then
Imir=Spike
Elizabeth=Darla
Vlad=Angelus?
anyway its nice to see the 'Big bad' of the season. I still would like to learn a little more about those two snipers but this is beggining to shape up nicely.

Nice touch of mr Harker. good nod to the old Stoker classic
I hopethe nest story will have some illistrations but this is the best one so far this season
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Spoilers End~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I also didnt watch the game. I mean I had the Tv on and I did pay attention to the commercials but I was playing pokemon gold at the same time.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, January 29, 2001 10:05:04 AM
IP: user-37kaouv.dialup.mindspring.com

[SRS comes in, sporting bunches of bead necklaces around his neck, a cold IBC in one hand, and a picture of a certain Baltimore starting QB, holding the Lombardi Trophy on high... he pauses, listening to the crowds of still-partying people outside the CR, before addressing the room:]


Greetings all... yes, the madness is over, and another Big Dance has come and gone in Tampa. Except this time, the Giants aren't the belle of the bowl this time around. Big Kudos are much in store for the entire Ravens team, but more so to Trent Dilfer! He came in as a second stringer, after Tampa gave him the axe (most undeservidly so) in favor of Shaun King, and he helped that Baltimore team to their first ever possession of the World Championship title.

Trent may not see this post, but as far as I am concerned, he has been vindicated... and I hope this finally drives the point across to the head coaches and the staff at One Buc Place that they should REALLY consider not playing too conservatively and let the offense open up next year. For Trent, it was a homecoming that was very very sweet! He gave Tampa six years of dedicated play and talent, and seeing him hoist that Lombardi trophy up was a great ending to an interesting 2000/2001 season.

Though just wait for next year... Bucs should be on an Oddessy for the Title! ^_^

Congrats to Doug, Don, Kit and everyone else that pulled for Baltimore this year! I watched the game at a Super Bowl party in St. Pete with my girlfriend (this was at a neighbor's house). We both were pulling for the Ravens, while most of everyone else at the party was rooting for the Giants. Glad we weren't lynched when the Ravens won. ^_^

Oh, and I better explain the beads! Heather and I also went to a celebration on Saturday called Gasparilla. It's a tradition here in Tampa, marking the day (so I heard) on when a Spanish pirate named Jose Gaspar landed his ship on the shores of what is now called Hillsborough Bay in Tampa. Every year, usually in February though they moved the celebration up to let the out-of-towners see it, they have a mock-landing and invasion of a full-sized pirate ship, in which Ye Mystic Krewe of the Jose Gaspar accepts the surrender of the Mayor of Tampa, and the key to the City of Tampa.

Afterwards, there's a big parade that marches down Bayshore Blvd., filled with floats, bands, and people dressed in pirate gear. They toss out strands of colorful beads, coins, and other goodies to the crowds, and depending on where you stand, you can come away with a good haul of booty!

(grins) This is sort of Tampa's version of Mardi Gras too, since recently there's been a lot of incidents of girls flashing their "accoutraments" to get beads from the male pirates. I only saw two such incidents, to which my girlfriend just chuckled at me when she caught me looking. She told me later "I'm just glad it proves you're a healthy male! I'd have been worried if you hadn't taken a look!" (chuckles)

Anyway, it was a good time had by all... but since there's no Super Bowl next year, hopefully Heather and I will get a better place along the parade next year. We barely got some good beads this year.

Anyway, that's all that happened this weekend. Glad to see people are still posting, even some old friends coming back after a while - Hi Brian! Traveler!

Will comment more later, but I have to go take some medicine now... I'm trying to fight off a cold, and it's being rather tenacious.

Maintain and Check Six!

P.S. - I got my new glasses! God, it's good to see in normal light again! ^_^

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 09:59:26 AM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

He-llooooo! ^_^ Hope everyone's doing peachy!

Winterwolf> Hey! *HUGZ much* :P <roswell> Yeah, I'm not hating Tess anymore, she's got a slightly evil sence of humor to close to my own for me to dislike her anymore :P <<Nothing like a woman teasing you to let you know she cares. Right Cali?>> LOL Excatly, push a guy around and he's yours for life! :P <<Liz’s dreams are so silly! >> I know, that was so dumb! I always though Liz was boring and that only confirmed it! But I DID like Kyles dream tho, with Buda answering his Cell phone and all! :D Hey, whatta ya think of the whole situation of Liz beeing the only one to see flashy thingies when Max cured her and when they kissed and such, think she's some sort of alien too? Or a hybrid perhaps? hmm? And I dont like Maria's cousin! He's scary, and proabably trouble! <<hope the happiness has lasted a few days!>> lol Yup, still happy today!!! :P *HUGZ*

Todd> Thank you SO very much dear!!! *HUGZ* :)

Buffy insta-thought> I just came to the realisation that Buffy's reached the peak of bad guys here, I mean, after you defeat a god, you can only go down hill with bad guy quality. Everything else will be a snap, so what's in store for the rest of the series?...

Mary Flanders> <<Its been a while since I've been to any of the chat rooms. There just seems to be fewer ppl that I know.>> Yeah, that happens, I stoped going for about a year, since there was a huge old school exodus from the chat and when I come back ppl are asking me if I'm a newbie when I've been chatting there for over 5 years! :P But there are still a few good guys left, so I still go when I can :) Oh, and I remember that shopping place with the dancing Pigs! There used to be a nice Italian place there, dont know if there still is tho...

Reverend Attila>><<The Baron isn't much of a party animal>> lol so why's he so into the city, does he just like to be surrounded by many ppl, noise and buildings then? :P <<A pity I can't go and make passes at you, Nahir, and any other girl I see >> lol a pitty, realy :P Wish GB Good Luck for me, 'kay! *pets kitty*

Gunjack> <<Never heard of eating weed straight before... Wouldn't that do funny things to ya?>> Well I truly wouldnt know dear, but Popeye never looked too sane to me, thats for sure :P Havent you ever actualy analized the cortoons we used to wanch, I mean, Peater Pan! Him and his magic fairy dust, take some and you can fly! Think happy thoughts!!! Happy!!! :P

Eee I gotta go, I'm late meeting my friend! I'll see ya guys!!! *HUGZ all and scampers off*

Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 09:52:23 AM
IP: 136.145.83.189

Jannie and all>> Thanks. Odd story. Kind of like how the modern day Santa Claus was "invented" by the Coke industry. Or at least that's what a few questionable sources (My idiot freinds) told me.
Tonic Shaker
Monday, January 29, 2001 09:39:16 AM
IP: bha5-s2.mtl.colba.net

Thicker then Blood seemed better then your last two stories
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 09:22:46 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-128-236.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Status of GB? >> Just realized that today is the 29th! Eek! And if I recall from our conversation, he's getting 'shipped off' on the 29th. Hopefully he's hasn't left yet, and will post a note here. If he did, hopefully he will find someway of getting internet access from the base, which isn't easy in my past experience working on a Naval Base. Accessing the internet is very tedious (sp?) and is monitored 24/7.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 09:10:21 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Just thought I'd post this since there was some interest in the Tick movie a while back. Comics Continuum posted some more news on the movie as well as a LOT of pictures!! You'll need to scroll down -- it's the 3rd news item on the page.
Spike - [<== Tick movie news]
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:56:48 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-175.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

LOOK AT ME I AM POSTING IN THE COMMENT ROOM HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
*blows raspberry in the general direcrion of her father*
GAH!!! I just spent four hours in the car on the way back listening to my father lecture me about spending too much time on the internet.. he has apparently limited me to half an hour a day.. so.. I have been back at school for 40 minutes and.. hmmm... :P:P:P:P:P
];)
yes.. it was a strange weekend full of lectures.. yes.. I lived.. no, I am not spending a paltry half hour on the internet a day, "which includes TGS assignments" *blows more raspberries* OKOK.. but I will try to cut down on the number of nights a week I spend up till 4am chatting with Gunjack..
*pokes Gunjack in the ribs* you hear that??

Juliaexia>> hey sweetie *HUGZ* .. *MORE HUGZ*.. how bout I come round later and we play with that lamp?? ;) we could always hit it with grapefruits, if you prefer..
"geez man, how'd YOU go blind"
"citrus"...
oh dear.. *resolves to lay off the shrooms for today.. well.. this morning at least.. *

Lynati>> ARE TOO!!!!!!! AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!! ;) YOU're watching SE:lain, too?????????????!!!!!!!
*contemplates the wonderful engaging instant messenger conversations that have the possibility of ensuing.. ;)

Green Baron>> so.. where were YOU last night?? Hmmmm???
;0 when my father got home, he told me all about his lovely date and then I said, "hey and my boy called too." Took him a second and then, "your boy??" "yeah yeah, you know, my friend from the states". "oh," he replies, not really knowing what to say. I told him about you comming to visit and he wagged his finger rather decisively at me and said, "just as long as it doesn't interfere with your studies"
:P
silly father.. he has a one-track mind.. ;)

Lady Corax>> hmmm.. something about your post reminds me of the joke some of my friends and I used to have about men.. which was that REAL men ate ground beef and motor oil for breakfast.. mmmm... breakfast of champions.. ;)
No worries about the gender roles. I have been a tomboy for most of my life, largely because I prefer frogs to barbie dolls and karate to ballet :) There is nothing really wrong with my relatives in that sense, though I do see there is a rather large cultural difference between rural Canada and rural England.

Valentine>> yes, it was a VERY creepy dream. I told my father and he gave me this look of "dude.. what are you ON??" (that is.. if fathers are allowed to give looks that resemble "dude")

must go.. I have workies to do, and 28 emails to answer *sighs*

BTW.. who won the superbowl
(or for that matter.. who was playing???)
*ducks*

love,

lain the defiant
the Great White North
Monday, January 29, 2001 08:10:17 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

GB: Thought you might be interested, USA Network is going to air a biopic movie on Attila (sp?) the Hun, I believe next Tuesday at 9 PM.
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, January 29, 2001 05:52:32 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

*Warpmind enters, bald as an egg.*
Gotta love them Gilette Mach 3 razors. ]:)

Lynati: E-mail you my preferences? Well, my obvious preference would be you, but I see how that might pose a problem with the post office... ];) Will e-mail.

GXB: *Raises hand* But then I probably don't count there, since I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic... ;)

Gside: How old I thought you was? Well... from your posts, I was under the impression you were 23, maybe 24... silly me. :| 'Sides, the educational system in Norway is a LOT different from the US system - I *think* I have college level education, but damned if I'm sure; the differences in the systems are too complex for my mind to grasp. :( As for the *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* bit, I think that one was already done...

Gunjack Valentine: Hehehe... Yes, the Hellgun... Y'know, I always DID wonder where that one went, after it mysteriously disappeared from our R&D section... glad to see it's got a good owner. ]:) And I wasn't planning to nuke you. Remember, death ends the fun, but with a few strategically placed life-sustaining units, there are hours and hours of fun to be had... ]:) Oh, and shut your trap. If we hire a masseuse, it'll be so we can hire Spike for more commission pics. ]:)

Well, that looks like the end of the post... Later, everyone. *Scampers off for new TGS episode.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, January 29, 2001 01:58:03 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

****Kyryn steps into the room.****

Gentlebeings,

TGS now presents

Thicker Than Blood

Written by Todd Jensen

There are more things in heaven and earth....

****Kyryn steps aside to avoid the stampede.****

Kyryn - [<<--Clicky, Clicky!]
Denton, TX
Monday, January 29, 2001 01:01:55 AM
IP: denm1-42.iglobal.net

Warpmind><<You could wipe out a small country with one of these!>> *winces* ...Ah yes, THAT one. We Gunjack *DO* try to employ minimum force, but for those rare occasions... 8 ) ...But if you think that Hellgun is nice, you oughta see the Flare Unit. Nothing like wrapping your opponents in the heart of a star... 8D
<<*Grumbles something about abusing the access to the armory...*>> No nuking the bookie. ; )

Daniel J><<Oh, and STOP ENCOURAGING LAIN! :)>> o.O ...You think *I* encourage Lain? Man, she doesn't *need* encouragement! She's too far ahead o' me! <<Ah, the American way! I feel all patriotic now.>> Heck yeah! IDIOTIC LAWSUITS FOR EVERYONE!!!
<<I'm in a thoughtful mood tonight.>> She's in my prayers... :|

Caliope><<Between that and Popeye's magic green weed, what did they expect?>> Never heard of eating weed straight before... Wouldn't that do funny things to ya?

Gside><<Has that ever stopped me before?>> Come to think of it, no. My bad... 8 ) <<Perhaps. They said it was there to imitate a skull, while the mellon acts as grey matter.>> That's about what I thought. Ever seen what a good varmint (superfast expanding, to the layman) bullet does to a cabbage? o.O <<Probably. That should be my job. Or has that passed by me yet?>> Well, you've been posting at least as long as I have, so... *shrugs* <<Did you mean "games"?>> I love Frued... : P <<Though the genres that were good for such a situation have probably fallen into disfavor with the developers and are awaiting a comeback.>> I'm REALLY waiting for the 3d platformer to die a cold, hard death... That is, right after they make a Ninja Gaiden for Playstation... 8 ) <<Would you eat furnished shrooms? Shrooms with rooms?>> Like I said, you don't have to eat them... Speaking of which, I was reading through that storyline when I realized I *AM* Mike. Same first name, same big nose, same burgandy hooded robe, same blue tentacle, even occasionally the same haircolor... Creepy, ne? o.O
<<So what about green capped shrooms? Double strength? Antivenom? Resussatation abilities?>> Instant death? Most of the green shrooms have fun names like "death angel" and such...
<<You'd think Microsoft would be able to get their own programs to work with each other.>> You would think. And I STILL don't have 5.0 installed, since I can't afford to have my comp go down for another day... : P <<You know, I read through the archive again today mostly looking for the first appearance of Sir Non Sequitor (a hero of mine).>> Is he the "Never eat alka-seltzer" guy? That was the last strip I read last night before going to wang. Bed. <<And I do like that line, and as an engineer, I feel it is a challenge.>> To quote Van Helgan, "Good Lord, NO!"
<<Now why would you think that? I'm just not seeing it.>> Me wang. Neither. porn
<<If I ever get a woman, I feel that such statements will be unnecessary.>> Women are overrated. Though you CAN neatly conceal grenades and such in the WBHs they leave... *apologies to the women. It's been a rough year.*

Lynati><<Guess what came in the mail today? My computer! yay!>> Excellent! It's a special moment... : ) *counts down to when he'll arrive in his dorm room with a 700+ Mgz*

Doug><<They don't know the value of learning from one's mistakes, because they don't want to watch other people make the ones they did.>> I can see your point, but there are some things that it's better never even to mess with. And to attempt to help others avoid the mistakes you've made isn't hypocritical; rather, it's a moral imperitive. <<Nobody does that to my girl without punishment, but Jammer and a couple other club bouncers intervened before I could administer some.>> Give the man a Kbar! ...You reduced the offender to a crimson smear in RP yet? If not, feel free to drop by the Armory for helpful supplies... 8 )
<<An online bachelor party sounds like a good idea. :)>> o.O ...noing the residents as I do... :D

Wilek><<That's why we've captured him and are using him as a power source.>> I'm SO glad I ditched the report on that project... *looks ill*
<<Woah... O_o What is this from, exactly?>> Not what you'd think... The musical was actually pretty cheery. That opening song, though... *shivers* ...In any case, your chances of finding it are precisely zero. <<Um...never mind. Don't wanna know.>> It DID sound a bit odd, didn't it? Basicly, it's just a shotgun shell loaded with thermite shot and liquid white phosphorus. Nasty as heck against personelle... <<Because it isn't that simple...>> You mean we actually have to play by the bugger's rules? Hmm... Methinks I'll try a solidifier array first, and then maybe a few Klio gaurds. <<Wasn't he aware of certain, um, environmental considerations?>> You're assuming that he's human. For all I know, that may have been his specie's idea of a breezy afternoon... <<I'm thinking I should get that book; I've heard very good things about it...>> It is, hands down, the best book I've EVER read on either comics OR art. Get it now! <<I've seen bits of the movies, but...<shrug>>> A pity... As soon as I get to college, I'm gonna start collecting both. And Hellboy, while I'm at it... <<(Princess Toadstool looks really cute in Luigi's clothing. Unfortunately, the converse is false.)>> Too true. And who changed the princess, anyway? o.O Mario's gonna have his brother's hide... <<Esthar and the Cross Punisher.>> That from FF8? I've only gotten to the Garden Battle... And what's worse, I haven't even touched my copy of FF9 since I finished Disc 1. I'm going slightly mad... @_@ <<Actually, Creepy Amadeus Dude (was that thing actually in the movie, or just the soundtrack cover?) was originally intended to be just a placeholder...>> Yeah, he was in the movie; that's the costume that the protagonist uses to drive Mozart insane... And whaddya mean, "Place holder"?
<<Nice. :) For some reason, I'm imagining a military variant of the Aliens power loader...probably inaccurate, but oh well...>> It's more along the lines of a Gundam, or the Landmates from Appleseed. <<Don't know much more than that, but I saw a Doll prototype with its shields down survive a direct hit from a proton torpedo and remain functional enough to try to retaliate.>> How much damage does a proton torpedo do, anyway? Are they like mininukes?
<<Heh, my dreams always end just before the thing that kills me does so, usually with some residual phantom sensation after I wake up from whatever was about to kill me.>> I've had that... Usually, it's when I fell of something really high, and I slam awake... <<At least, that's what happened last time. I cut off the thing's brain, and still it managed to keep a tight grip on that cleaver.)>> Next time take the arm off first. Those unkillable enemies can be a real pain in the hindparts... : P <<Do tell. :)>> Well, Malikov's a vicious little SOB who gets a little too big for his britches, and manages to bring the whole world crashing down. As for the Springheel... You'll have to wait and see. ; ) <<Mullets?>> It's that indescribably horrible haircut that Snake appears to be using. I can't really describe it, but it's bad. <<...and the opening/world map theme...>> I. Love. That. Song! T'is the only world map music that can put a catch in my throat... <<Anyhow, once control of the solar system is complete, we'll be concentrating on establishing trade relations with various galactic civilizations.>> ...And how long before we start going Imperial on their butts? <<Eh?>> Wilek, please go read the ENTIRE College Roomies From Hell archive. Now. You'll feel better for it, I promise. <<<blink> It's that good?>> o.O *shrugs* ...Um, I can't remember what I said, so... ; P <<You're aware that you just gave Mr. Disconnect an idea? :P>> Oh no! Whatever shall I DO! *DC laughs maniacly, and rushes to his computer to order supplies. Moments later, a deafening blast rocks the CR* ...He can't nail ya if ya nail him first, can he? ; ) <<Three guesses where they got the DNA for the color.>> Since you apparently haven't read CRFH, I haven't the foggiest... <<(Fair play is for those who aren't smart enough to find an easier way.)>> Always nice to work for a man with a sense of honor... ; ) <<Wilek's an idiot. What just happened?>> I tried to cheat Lain, and she went ahead and let me. Then she tricked me into throwing away the prize. <<I think DC's messed with it...>> Nope, that was Lain too. Between her and Warps, it's amazing I'm still a gentleman... ; ) <<<amputeemidgethermaphroditeswithchainsaws>. O_o>> Did I actually SAY that!? o.O <<I once read part of an essay about mind control that informed the reader of just how much certain branches of the armed forces have in common with the classical definition of a cult.>> And they're heavily armed, too... Ain't this a great country? 8 ) <<Interesting...I'm still looking for one. Right now, the forerunners are The World Has Gone Insane from Jekyll & Hyde and...ehh, that one song from Pocahontas 2.>> I waffle between Mettalica's Whisky in the Jar, One Headlight, and Jekyll & Hyde's Confrontation. To name but a few. 8 ) <<Heh, I became acquainted with the twisted little booger (a compliment, coming from me :P ) in Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.>> Sounds like they ripped off Roald Dahl. Ever read "Revolting Rhymes"? ; ) <<I will not eat your magic shrooms, with or without furnished rooms. I will not eat them with a song, I will not eat them from a bong.>> Encore! Encore! And how many times do I have to say it!? NO ONE EVER SAID YOU HAD TO EAT THE SHROOMS!!! Hmm. That was cathartic.
Go read the comic.
<<Or does he turn out to have inherited powers from his Fey side?>> I think that's what they were saying... So any strength or inner fortitude is credited to his fey heritage, rather than to HIM. <<There's no one stupid enough to take a dare like that...>> ...Um, me? I tried it at that formal occasion a few weeks ago. Not too bad, for a slimey invertabrate... <<What truth? That I stole my name from someone who deserved to have it stolen from him? :P>> Whew! That's a load off my mind! For a minute there, I thought I was working for an insane, delusional... um, overlord... o.O ...Crap. ; )
<<I never really got into the Genesis or Saturn...>> Saturn? As in... Sega Saturn? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *Collapses in hysterical fit of laughter. After several minutes, he manages to regain his composure* ...heheheh. Whee! Please, no one say "Daikatana" right now... I'm not sure I could survive... *chuckle*

Spike><<I was diagnosed with CTS last May -- it's the biggest reason that I had to stop doing as many art commissions and writing enormous fanfics.>> If we pitched in to hire a skilled masuese to stave off further outbreaks, would you start writing huge fics again? ; )

SOROW><<Ummm...maybe you were confused.>> O.O ...sorry about that! : P

Lain><<Don't suppose you have that tape yet, do you???>> Nope, no tape... I want my SEL!!!! <<I had the most terrible dream last night..>> Um, that's amo9ng the creepier things I've ever heard... o.O

SJ><<nothing I love more than getting fed another happy helping of guilt just because I had the misfortune of being born into a middle-class white family.>> You actually pay attention to those Moorons?

Tim><<And the Green Party as a whole is just plain spooky...>> *reads Green Party platform* ...Wow. These people scare me. I'm sure they have the best intentions, but several of their planks have proven to be EXTREMELY harmfull to everyone. And that part about a "non-interventionist, non-offensive, strictly defensive military posture"... Methinks these chaps need to visit the killing fields of the world.

Winterwolf><<So when you were the "Fuzzy Wuzzy" Valentine was that heavily laden with saccharine or nutrasweet? ;)>> Neither. T'was Sarcasm I was loaded on, along with a touch of Cane Sugar. Besides, I wanted to test out the Michael's Smile effect... *phantom screams are heard from somewhere on the other side of the fabric of time/space*

Mary><<Guys may come and guys may go, but anime is forever.>> Words to live by... And sorry to hear about the chappy not working out...

*massive peals of thunder are heard in the distance*

Oops, gotta go unplug all the appliances... An I was hoping to read some Jackie's Fridge tonight, too... : P

Peace out.

Gunjack "Crazed Weasel" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:44:45 AM
IP: 216-146-183-153.bwn.net

Daniel Johnson:
<<Well, I'm not really a football fan, but I'd like to point out that New York doesn't really have a football team.>>

???... *WHAPS him with a comically large fish* Well I'm not a fan either but I suppose you're going to tell me Buffalo is actually in Canada...
And yes, Scott Norwood WAS promptly burned in effigy. And for those of you who don't know, think back to the first Ace Ventura movie replacing the Dolphins with the Bills.
DAMN YOU Cigarette Smoking Man from the X-Files!!! DAMN YOU!!!

Traveler
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:37:58 AM
IP: 208.246.218.30

Winterwolf> Than you for your wishes of an enjoyble and tasty day. Dinner was actually quite good: very cheesy potato skins preceeding hangar steak in a demiglaze concluded with a slice of canoli cake. Though I think a full on giant canoli might have been better.

Warpmind> <<No, Gside, no! Don't even think it!>>: Think what?
<<the potential booty... isn't big enough>>: That might be a good cue to start playing Baby Got Back.
<<NO, Gside! I said NO!>>: Oh, that. Too late.
<<Waitasec, you just turned 21?>>: Ayuh. Legal age for the consumption of alcohol over here (and so far, I'm dry).
<<That means I'm older than you!>>: So? I've never hidden that I'm in college, and you have been out of a higher learning institution for a little while now, no? Hiow old did you think I was?
<<*Lewd wink*>>: Isn't it more appropriate to use *Wink wink, nudge nudge*, especially in light of the recent (unexpected) Spanish Inquisition.

Lynati> <<Shut up, Gside>>: If I ever get a woman, I feel that such statements will be unnecessary. Though I can't see that happening in the near future. Though it is a little more fun when you don't make it so easy (or if you don't know what you were saying).

Greg Bishansky> <<everyone who is NOT watching the Superbowl>>: I turned it on every now and then for the commercials.
<<and couldn't care less who wins>>: Well, being from Jersey, all else being equal, I would tend to favor the Giants.

Daniel Johnson> <<Both the Jets and Giants play in New Jersey>>: I have played in Giants stadium (twice), and never needed to leave the state.
<<Liberty Island is on the Jersey side of the border>>: But then we agreed to let them have everything above the water, while we get everything below. And since some pier or something somewhere has sunk, who's going to raise it?
<<Methinks our good friend Gside is getting something of a reputation>>: Now why would you think that? I'm just not seeing it.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:28:22 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

**raises hand**

Hell, I didn't even watch the Super Bowl... of course, some of that had to do with the fact that I was helping a friend unload the last of her stuff into her room...

But it's cool that the Ravens won. And it's cool that the Super Bowl is over - maybe the principal at the school where Mom teaches will stop making multiple days "Ravens Day" and give people's purple-and-black wardrobes a rest.

Sorry, but Mom had to suffer through "Who Let the Dogs Out" blasted over the intercom Friday morning. To top it off, said principal wasn't even at the school that day - and it was his idea! (Yes, I've heard plenty about this guy. It's worse because his predecessor - who was at the same school for 25 years - cared more about getting things done properly instead of planning theme days.)

Midnight. Going to bed soon. Sorry to nearly rant there. :)

Mandolin
Sunday, January 28, 2001 11:28:43 PM
IP: 144.175.21.16

*enters*

Damn computer hasn't been letting me post! grrr...

Well you guys can put away the confetti about Joseph. He didn't seem to enjoy meeting me as much as I did him. He just wants to be friends. >.< I may not be attracting potential boyfriends, but I sure seem to be collecting a lot of friends these days. :/

After spending today feeling all weepy and depressed and wondering what the hell was wrong with me, I decided I just don't want a boyfriend right now. Guys may come and guys may go, but anime is forever. hehehehe...>:)

Mary Flanders
Sunday, January 28, 2001 11:03:48 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

And I win too. The stupid game is finally over! :)
Kitainia
Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:11:09 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.200.dlls.grid.net

<dances into room giggling maniacally>

Coyote: Yes!!! Yes!!! I won!!! Ravens won!!! Woohoohoooo!!!

Hmm. 27=almost 7x4. Wonder If I can get Jammer to quadruple the bet amount. <notices Jammer glaring at him sullenly with huge arms crossed, the creased lines on his forehead showing even through his habitual red bouncer's bandanna> Uh, maybe not. Oh well.

At least I won.

Doug
Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:10:30 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.200.dlls.grid.net

Doug: You won yer bet. The Ravens won by 27. :)

**does a victory dance with Milady Corax, SJ, and all the others who were backing Baltimore**

Oh, one more thing ...

Milady Corax: Maybe not a Drag Queen ... but how about Queen of the Strip? Uh oh, that doesn't sound any better ... how about Baroness of the Blacktop? Nah, too cheesy ... ahh, I'll think of something!! ;)
Hope you're enjoyin' Survivor, BTW ... if they let me bet on tribes, I'd put my money on Ogakor. :)

Coyote the Bando - [< -- a.k.a. Tony Siragusa's Mini-Me]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:04:21 PM
IP: 216.28.101.20

I had the distinct pleasure of spending the entire superbowl next to a good friend who happened to be a Giants supporter. She spent the first two quarters telling me how the Ravens were going to be owned, crushed, annihilated, and otherwise rendered non-living by the might of New York.
I don't think she's my friend any more... ; )

Gunjack "Smiling Villian" Valentine
Sunday, January 28, 2001 09:35:16 PM
IP: 216-146-183-163.bwn.net

Well, you can stop raising hands. It's over.

I don't imagine that Greg would be watching or that he would care about the game, seeing as the New York Giants were tonight made the Baltimore Ravens bitch.

In a game that was not even close, the Ravens utterly dominated the Giant, winning with a total of 34 to the Giants measily 7. As if there was any doubt! But what a brutal display of complete dominance by the Ravens defense. The Giants never had a chance. I've seen pimps treat their whores better than the Ravens treated their opponents.

In celebration tonight, Ray Lewis has promised to not kill anyone this year, and Tony Siragusa has vowed to eat all of Palm Beach county.

Well, I'm happy....of course I'm happy, I always love to see a New York sports team get run completely over....but it was the culmination of a good year of football all around. Congratulations, Baltimore! Now you shall no longer be remembered just as the leading city for venereal diseases in the country! You shall be known as the home of gonorreah, syphilis, AND the Superbowl Champions, your Baltimore Ravens!

Ah well, the NFL season is over. Time for the XFL, starting next week!

Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, January 28, 2001 09:29:15 PM
IP: 207-172-53-17.s17.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

SJ:
Well, I'm not really a football fan, but I'd like to point out that New York doesn't really have a football team. Both the Jets and Giants play in New Jersey. ;) NY does have a tendency to take things that doesn't belong to it; while they have the Statue of Liberty on their license plates, it's obvious from looking at a map that Liberty Island is on the Jersey side of the border. Not that I'm biased or anything. ;)
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Tonic Shaker:
Welcome!
<<neither animal seems glorious enough to represent country leaders>> I think that's the point. :)
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Jannie:
It's actually pretty frightening that you knew that. Did you have to look it up, or did you just know it? I thought I knew a lot of useless knowledge, but... :)
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GXB:
The return of JMS? Ooooh, nice. Maybe I'll actually start watching TV again.
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Lynati:
<<Certainly more flexible. (Shut up, Gside)>> Methinks our good friend Gside is getting something of a reputation. >:)
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DPH:
Oh, I'm definitely an original; If there were more than one of me, the universe would no doubt collapse in on itself.
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SOROW:
Good luck with the dancing.
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Super Bowl:
Well, I don't care who wins, but I do have the TV on at the moment. Not really watching, but it's somewhat amusing watching the Giants getting slaughtered. Oops, the Ravens just won. There you go, SJ; there is indeed a God. ;)

Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, January 28, 2001 09:21:40 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

*SHoots arm into the air* Oooh ohh, pick ME Mr. Kotter!

Er, uh... In any event, not watching the Superbowl. Or is it over by now? I dunno...

Robby
Sunday, January 28, 2001 09:12:13 PM
IP: acaee4ee.ipt.aol.com

<hand raised all the way and eyes rolled to the ceiling>
Kitainia
Sunday, January 28, 2001 08:45:57 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.17.dlls.grid.net

<raises hand halfway> Although I'm not watching the game, I do have a $150 bet with Jammer on the Ravens winning by at least seven points. <fingers crossed> :)
Doug
Sunday, January 28, 2001 08:45:12 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.17.dlls.grid.net

(raises hand) couldn't care less
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Token sane guy
Sunday, January 28, 2001 08:36:55 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-17-16.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

[Raises hand.]
Tim
Sunday, January 28, 2001 08:35:02 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

:::shrugs and slowly raises her hand:::
The only real reason I care at all is because of friends with bets pending. ^_^

Dreamie
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:56:46 PM
IP: ac9eeb29.ipt.aol.com

::Raises Hand::
Lynati
The-obsessive-compulsive-poster
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:47:27 PM
IP: 207.94.232.181

*promptly raises his hand *

Yeah, I'm not a big Super Bowl fan either.

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:45:08 PM
IP: 216.87.46.166.dialup-stl.primary.net

::Pauses from TGS assignment:: Okay, show of hands for everyone who is NOT watching the Superbowl, and couldn't care less who wins.

::RAISES HAND::

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:40:34 PM
IP: dialin-1029-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well, I finally got to see "Buffy" and "Angel". (The episodes from last Tuesday were delayed here in St. Louis until Sunday, because of a Blues hockey game being held on Tuesday night. This is the sort of thing that makes me definitely not a sports fan).

* SPOILERS FOLLOW *

BUFFY: I liked this episode a lot. Buffy's facing down the Council at the end was a great scene (I mentally cheered alongside her friends). The revelation that Glory was actually a god was one that I certainly hadn't expected, though it makes sense (is Ben one too, I wonder?). And I got a chuckle out of the bit where Joyce and Spike sit down to watch the soap opera together. And Anya's doing everything that she can to cover up her being a demon (particularly "Willow's a demon?") Pity that there's not going to be a new episode next week; I'd really like to see what comes next (and particularly if Dawn ever finds out that she's really the Key).

ANGEL: A rather good episode, although it's a pity that Boone was made a one-shot character (he made an interesting antagonist). I was certainly surprised by the tape turning out to be Cordelia and Wesley's most embarrassing moments. And the revelation at the end about Angel's role in the forthcoming Apocalypse intrigued me.

My best wishes to Angel's former associates in their agency, although I have the feeling that they're going to have to strike a compromise on the name soon (one of the funniest moments in it).

Pity that Drusilla and Darla weren't in this one, but maybe they'll show up soon.

* SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:20:35 PM
IP: 216.87.46.166.dialup-stl.primary.net

Hiya. I'm just taking a break from reading my literature book. Talk about a workout! In order to be ready for my auditions on Saturday I'm going to be dancing five hours a day, doing god knows how many situps and crunches, and then trying, I repeat trying, to eat healthy. *sigh* If this doesn't go well I don't know what I'm going to do!
SOROW
Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:11:27 PM
IP: a030-1024.dll2.splitrock.net

Christine: What do you mean, "magic carpet"?
*Lyanti suddenly starts speaking in a very disturbing voice*
You're not suggesting we fly on a magic carpet to speak to the King of the Potato People, are you?
...and you're trying to convince me you're completely sane?
This Warrants two hours W.O.O.!!

(hee hee. I really love that scene...)

Lynati
Sunday, January 28, 2001 06:56:08 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-211.rasserver.net

Lady Corax > I'm a Survivor addict too ... and I can't help but also think it's funny as hell the way NBS is already in a complete and utter panic. Extending Friends to 40 minutes? ::shrug:: I gave up watching that one years ago anyway, big whoop!

Lynati > the King of the Potato People? Even if we have a magic carpet? ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, January 28, 2001 06:11:23 PM
IP: 19-149.075.popsite.net

"Here I come to screw up the day!" - DC.

1+1=2

Who is to say that either of the Daniel's is an original, afterall, they both could be clones of someone else?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, January 28, 2001 06:01:16 PM
IP: max1-23.cwy.cei.net

*Lynati Walks in*
"Our main weapons are fear, Surprise, ruthlessness, and an almost fanatical devotion to the King of the Potato People."

Warpmind: Nyaah!*Thhhppp* You haven't even SEEN my shape. And it would be too late now to get you a weapon-gift; I have no idea where they sell them locally, if at all, and I don't have the discount I have at the Flying Dragon back in MD.So e-mail me some other preferences. (Serious ones.)
And yeah, I may not have been as skinny as those other girls in my high schoolm gym class, but I KNOW I was in better health then most of them. Certainly more flexible.
(Shut up, Gside) (...and everyone else. My stretching abilities are one of the few physical things I have to be proud of. I may not have been the fastest or the strongest, but by God I was certainly was the limberest. Cirque de Soleil, here I come!)

lain: "Am I falling? Am I fading? Have I lost it all..."
So, _you're_ god, then? I only have up to episode eight. Nrr.
"I am she, and she is me, and we are all to-ge-ther..."

Green Baron: How do you get instant messanger? I received little notices that I'm on both your and lain's lists for it or a similar, but me...?

*Lynati Exits, looking considerably more happy than when she entered, although still not quite smiling...*

Lynati
Sunday, January 28, 2001 03:24:40 PM
IP: 207.94.232.51

ATTENTION ALL "BABYLON 5" FANS... and fans of good Science-Fiction. There seems to be some very good news on the B5 front, but I'll just let Mr. Straczynski tell you about that...

*** JMS Speaks ***

To confirm what Bonnie Hammer has stated, yes, there are conversations ongoing between SFC, WB, myself and Doug Netter about some new projects. I'm not at liberty at this point to be much more specific than that. Could be a movie in the B5 universe. Could be a series set in the B5 universe. Could be a combination of those, plus a little something else. Suffice to say that SFC wants to become the new home for B5 in all its parts and pieces, and there are several possible ways to accomplish this currently under discussion

We may have some resolution on these issues as early as next month. To that end, we have verified the availability and interest of those who helped make B5 a success among the crew, and everyone we have spoken to is excited and ready to get going. Same crew, same quality, same dedication.

Beyond that, I can't comment...except to say that if we get the go-ahead on what I think may be coming, it could be a very exciting opportunity to do another kind of story that no one's ever done before in SF TV, just as no one had ever done anything quite like B5 before.

So watch this space, keep an ear to the ground, and stay out of trouble...interesting times are a'coming....

jms

*** End ***

Well all I can say is that I'm really pleased to hear this (that's an understatement). UP YOURS TNT!!!

::Pops a tape of the B5 episode "The Coming of Shadows" into the CR VCR, and straps Ted Turner into a chair and staples his eyes open, and takes pleasure in Turner's suffering knowing he'd rather be watching Wrestling or Baywatch, or what ever other crap TNT plays::

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Sunday, January 28, 2001 03:13:30 PM
IP: dialin-197-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Tonic Shaker> the Political symbols:

The Republican elephant symbol of the party was born in the imagination of cartoonist Thomas Nast and first appeared in Harper's Weekly on November 7, 1874.

An 1860 issue of Railsplitter and an 1872 cartoon in Harper's Weekly connected elephants with Republicans, but it was Nast who provided the party with its symbol.

Oddly, two unconnected events led to the birth of the Republican Elephant. James Gordon Bennett's New York Herald raised the cry of "Caesarism" in connection with the possibility of a thirdterm try for President Ulysses S. Grant. The issue was taken up by the Democratic politicians in 1874, halfway through Grant's second term and just before the midterm elections, and helped disaffect Republican voters.

While the illustrated journals were depicting Grant wearing a crown, the Herald involved itself in another circulation-builder in an entirely different, nonpolitical area. This was the Central Park Menagerie Scare of 1874, a delightful hoax perpetrated by the Herald. They ran a story, totally untrue, that the animals in the zoo had broken loose and were roaming the wilds of New York's Central Park in search of prey.

Cartoonist Thomas Nast took the two examples of the Herald enterprise and put them together in a cartoon for Harper's Weekly. He showed an ass (symbolizing the Herald) wearing a lion's skin (the scary prospect of Caesarism) frightening away the animals in the forest (Central Park). The caption quoted a familiar fable: "An ass having put on a lion's skin roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met within his wanderings."

One of the foolish animals in the cartoon was an elephant, representing the Republican vote - not the party, the Republican vote - which was being frightened away from its normal ties by the phony scare of Caesarism. In a subsequent cartoon on November 21, 1874, after the election in which the Republicans did badly, Nast followed up the idea by showing the elephant in a trap, illustrating the way the Republican vote had been decoyed from its normal allegiance. Other cartoonists picked up the symbol, and the elephant soon ceased to be the vote and became the party itself: the jackass, now referred to as the donkey, made a natural transition from representing the Herald to representing the Democratic party that had frightened the elephant.

=) Pretty silly, huh? *chuckles*

Jannie
Sunday, January 28, 2001 03:06:34 PM
IP: 209-83-228-206.hou.port.mytelco.com

*Warpmind enters, with a large dent on his forehead.*
Whee... |:)

Gunjack Valentine: Youve quartered the odds? Why don'cha leave'em hung and drawn at the same time? *Grmf* In that case, the potential booty (No, Gside, no! Don't even think it!) isn't big enough (NO, Gside! I said NO!) for me to risk such a financial investment. Oh, I'm not allowed to, anyway? Never mind, then... *Grumbles something about abusing the access to the armory...*

By the way... Gside: Waitasec, you just turned 21? Hey! That means I'm older than you! Nyah, nyah! ];)

Reverend Attila: The Spanish Inquisition was one of Monty Python's old successes. Maybe Mel Brooks made something out of it, too, but Monty Python are the ones responsible for "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition". :)

Mandolin: Congrats on the nomination! Hope for victory! *Crosses fingers*

Lynati: Well, I most certainly agree. More than two percent body fat? Less than two percent would be *unhealthy*, I think. (Particularly considering the fact that the human brain largely consists of fat-type tissue...) And muscle density is also a Good Thing. *Lewd wink* Just a question of where the muscles are, y'know. ];) As for being in great shape at G'01, well, you do have a great shape already... ];) As for mailing weaponry, well, I *do* have a nifty little cane sword that I ordered from Brubaker's Swords Armors and Armory, a Texas business. No prob mailing'em, just trouble if you carry them on the street. :) And those EYES! DAMN! :) Go, Cat, Go! ]:)

Lain: I'll keep that offer in mind...

Well, that concludes this post, I guess. Later, guys. *Grabs Lynati and carries her off to assure her she looks great.*

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, January 28, 2001 05:21:56 AM
IP: hume.ti.telenor.net

Hi everybody! Just in for a few replies. I see I missed top ten... Noooooooo! ;P

Gside> Hedonistic and epicurean periodicity denoting thine epoch!

Doug> Thanks! Considering I got up and walked away on my own it wasn't so bad. I was just relating the story as people were telling tooth stories and that is one of my tooth stories. Fortunately I still have the tooth. It happened to be one of my very front top teeth. Congratulations again on the land! I hope integrating into the community isn't that difficult. I continue to wish the best for you and Kit. :)

Emambu> I'm looking around and asking for you. I'll let you know what I find out relatively soon. ^_^

Gunjack> So when you were the "Fuzzy Wuzzy" Valentine was that heavily laden with saccharine or nutrasweet? ;)

SOROW> But of course they will! ^_^

Mary> Glad meeting Joseph went well! The relationship certainly sounds promising. :)

Tonic Shaker> Welcome!

Winterwolf
Go NY!, Go! :P
Sunday, January 28, 2001 02:08:49 AM
IP: 206.15.120.121

hey y'all
i have no real clue as to what's going on the comment room seeing how that i've been in my own little world for the past couple of days. so i just dropped by to say hi. these past couple of days have been interesting to say the least and i'm frustrated beyond belief.
Lain: i miss you!!!!
toodly doodly for noodly (nowdly didn't sound right)


juliaexia
Sunday, January 28, 2001 01:50:13 AM
IP: dynrez217-32-81.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Rev. Attila> <<The Spanish Inquisition. That was a great music number by Mel Brooks>>: Alo a rather amusing sketch by Monty Python.

Lady Corax> <<Forge does have a mechanical arm in the comics>>: I thought it was just the hand, whereas teh leg was more completely replaced.

Jannie> <<WHO is doing the voice of the girl?>>: According to IMDB, it's Julie Nathanson. The agents are done by Michael Rosenbaum, Kurtwood Smith, and Lauren Tom.

Welcome Tonic Shaker. Wilek was just here, so I think you might have to wait a while for an official sanity removal.
<<I shouldn't have come here so early>>: Go back to last week and take something from there. This CR tends to keep things going between wipes if we want to talk about it.
<<Why on earth do you people represent Democrats as Donkeys and Republicans as Elephants?>>: Easier to make jokes about them? Acutally no one remembers anymore, though the parties decided their symbols for themselves way back when.

Oh yeah, a while back Emambu requested a Don McLean song. I don't remember which one he asked for, so I'm taking a guess, since I do have a fifty fifty chance. So, was it Winterwood?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, January 28, 2001 01:45:55 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

lain: AM NOT!!
Lynati
Sunday, January 28, 2001 01:45:02 AM
IP: 207.94.232.5

SJ: <<I bet they even voted for Ralph Nader.>> Voted for him?! They were practically his elestion commitee! Nader even had a cameo at the end of their "Testify" music video, stating along the lines of, "If you don't get ahold of politics, politics will get ahold of you." True enough, but I don't think he's much better than them. I used to be pretty liberal, and I do agree with some of his policies regarding the environment and immigration, but he's a consumer advocate, a professional complainer for crying out loud!

And the Green Party as a whole is just plain spooky. I could almost say that they want to bring about the Nanny State tha Green Baron brought up earlier.

<<< WARNING!!! POLITICAL RANT! THOSE WHO ARE EASILLY OFFENDED, PREGNANT OR HAVE HEART DISEASE SHOULD AVOID THIS POST! >>>

The Platform of the Green Party includes:
-Abolishing the US Senate.
-Pay elected officials average workers' salaries. (So much for initiative.)
-Granting Statehood to Washington DC.
-Phase out synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and phase in organic agriculture. (I come from a farming family, so I know is B.S. that would make farmers enable to compete in the agricultural market.)
-Ban the release into the environment and the use in food production of genetically modified organisms that result from splicing the genes of one species into another. (Someone has been watching too many 50's horror movies. They must be afriad that the corn might bite back :)
-Break Up Corporate Agribusiness: Create family farms and farmworker cooperatives through a homesteading program and land reform based on acreage limitations and residency requirements. (They tried these communal farm programs in the USSR in the 1920's, Causing massive famines. It would be just as bad if not worse here without chemicals and bio-engineered crops)
-Strengthen Anti-Trust Enforcement: Require breakup of any firm with more than 10% market. (In other words, punish companies for being successful)
-Mandatory breaking up of the 200 largest banks.
-End Corporate Welfare (Gotta be dependent on the Government)
-End Institutionalized Racism, Sexism, and Oppression of People with Disabilities: Strengthen civil rights, anti-discrimination, and affirmative action laws, programs, and enforcement. (Good Intentions, Bad Ideas. I've gone over this before: People are going to be @$$holes to each other no matter how many laws you pass. Your just gonna create legal and social double standards. Can't we just teach our kids to be courteouse to each other?)
-African American Reparations (Okay, I despise racism. But I ain't going to pay for what some sh-thead did long ago. Can't we try to learn from the past and *mutually* work together for a better future? Besides I thought we were all AMERICANS. Maybe that's to much too ask for. )
-Clemency for Leonard Peltier. New trial for Mumia Abu-Jamal. (I guess killing law enforcement officers is an "in" thing for these people : )
-Restorative Justice: Establish a humane criminal sanction system based on prevention, restitution, rehabilitation, and reconciliation rather than vengeance. (Than what's that whole "African-American Reparation" thing about? )
-Ban Striker Replacements (And then what? Wait for those guys to decide to come back when I could get someone just as capable who would work for less? I don't think so.)
-Federal legislation and financing for tuition free education at public universities and technical schools for everyone who wants it. (We already have something similer to that. it's called "highschool.")

The next set of goals was also humorouly ridiculous

-Peace Conversion: Cut US military spending unilaterally by 75% in two years to establish a non-interventionist, non-offensive, strictly defensive military posture and save nearly $250 billion a year.
-Unilateral Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Disarmament: These weapons of mass destruction have no place in a non-offensive military. The US should set the example and demand that other nations match our lead before the proliferation of weapons to countries around the world leads to mass destruction. (Yea, right. Right after they blow us to Hell and back and invade us.)
-Cooperative Security: Pursue a "cooperative security" strategy that seeks mutual arms reductions, progressive elimination of cross-border offensive capabilities, and further cuts in military spending. The goal is to progressively demilitarize down to a non-offensive defense of U.S. national territory using a coast guard, border guard, national guard, and light air defense system, which would cost about $3 billion, or less than 1% of current US military spending.
-No Unilateral US Intervention in the Internal Affairs of Other Countries
-Close All Overseas US Military Bases
-Disband NATO and All Aggressive Military Alliances
-Ban US Arms Exports
-Abolish the CIA, NSA, US Army School of the Americas, and All US Agencies of Covert Warfare
-End the Economic Blockades of Cuba, Iraq, and Yugoslavia
-Cut Off US Military Aid to Counter-Insurgency Wars in Colombia and Mexico
-Freedom for Lori Berenson and All Political Prisoners
-Require a National Referendum to Declare War

ROUGH TRANSLATION: Become the world's bitch.

I probably should say that I didn't mean to offend or ridicule any Greenies in here, but hey, I call it as it is. ; )

<<< END POLITICAL RANT! IF YOU WERE OFFENDED, YOU SHOULD OF READ THE WARNING LABLE, YOU TWIT! >>>

[Tim walks out of comment room singing along to Dennis Leary's "I'm an Asshole"]

Tim Phipps
Sunday, January 28, 2001 01:16:20 AM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Hey, everyone! What's going on?

Is it just me, or is anyone else jazzed about the new JLA cartoon their doing for Cartoon Network (no Plastic Man, though :(...)

Matt "King Snarf" Maybray - [reginald_q_bumbershoot@hotmail.com]
Drexel Hill, PA, USA
Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:43:39 AM
IP: a030-0023.phl2.splitrock.net

Hey, y'all! It's amazing how many other things I find to do whenever I have to write a huge essay. :)

Go, Ravens! I decided I'd pick a team to root for in the Super Bowl this year, and so I just *had* to go with the Ravens...just somethin' about the name, I guess. ;)

Plus Survivor II starts tomorrow! I'm sure y'all will be hearing my lovely comments on that show for the next few months...I'm a Survivor addict. :)

SJ> I think that Marvel will find a way to bring back ol' Cyke also. And I just saw the comic you were talking about where they killed off Colossus...I thought it was pretty sad and shocking and all, but it did make sense that he did, because of the connection with his younger sister and all...I liked one of his final lines, where it was something like, "I'm coming home, Snowflake." But I totally agree...I'm going to be bummed without Colossus around. He ruled.

Mary> Glad to hear that finally meeting the guy went well! :)

Attila> **laughs at the joke** Oh, sheesh, I've heard that one before...so sick, and yet funny...;) And yes, I do like Rehnquist because of the AZ connection...although I didn't know he was going to retire. I agree that Ashcroft would be a bad choice for Chief Justice, because of the stir he created just being appointed Attourney General. Hm...interesting idea on Orrin Hatch, too...I'll have to think about that one. Just as long as Alan Greenspan doesn't retire from the Fed anytime soon...is there any way we can make the man immortal? ;)

Robby> Hey, glad to see ya back around these parts! :)

DumlaoX> HEY!!! How are you doing? It's cool to see ya again. Wow, all these people showing back up...:)

Wilek> I totally agree with you about the addictiveness of "Majora's Mask." My brother is absolutely hooked on the game! I've been waiting to play it once he's finished, but I have a feeling that won't be anytime soon...:)

lain> You rock, gal! You're right on when you say that you're just going to be you. Never let anyone tell you that you've got to be otherwise! Especially not anyone that tells you to do something "more feminine..." because that's just a bunch o' used motor oil! Stick to whatever *you* want to do, because as the great Bon Jovi says, It's *your* life! Even if that means going against what is traditionally thought to be "appropriate" for gals. And even though sometimes you take some real smack for doing so, it really is worth it in the end to do what you want to do. Screw "appropriate gender roles!" ;) (and have fun in England, by the way) :)

Oh, heck, I just got off on a rant, didn't I? Sorry, guys. But really, I've found that in my case, the guys I worked with and competed against accepted the fact that I was a girl, and that I was okay. After that initial shock when everyone doesn't know what to think of you as the only girl in the situation, they start thinking you're pretty cool. Then you make some friends, and they respect you for your skills after you prove you've got them. Every now and then, you do get some hot-head who decides to complain to everyone within earshot that you're nothin' but a little name for a female dog (Mr. Driver of the gray 1970 Camaro I beat on my debut day last May, I'm looking your way!) but thankfully, those kind of people are few and far between, and the nice ones seem to be a lot more common. :)

Well, that's it for my nice little rant tonight. :) Thanks for listening, and I must be off to write an essay! See y'all around! Hey, wait...just thought o' something...if I'm a female drag racer, and I've won some titles, does that make me a Drag Queen? j/k ;)

Lady Corax
Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:20:17 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

HIYA! I`m just checked this place out, and thought I`d say sumthin'. Very nice place.
....Ahhhh....crap. Now I can`t think of anything to talk about. I shouldn't have come here so early.
Oh, well, to start off on a topic, if there are any Americans in here,(Stupid question. There must be tons in here.) I was always curious: Why on earth do you people represent Democrats as Donkeys and Republicans as Elephants?
Maybe it's just me, but neither animal seems glorious enough to represent country leaders. The eagle I understand, but...
Well, anycrap, nice meetin' 'yall.

Tonic Shaker
Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:32:46 PM
IP: granby-ppp28058.qc.sympatico.ca

SJ> if you are cheering for Baltimore, then so will I :) I really didn't have a preference since the Cowboys weren't playing this year ;) I don't like NY either, though...

Zeta Project - thanks to Denis, I watched it this morning and really enjoyed it! I found it to be very humorous :D
It's driving me bonkers, though.. WHO is doing the voice of the girl? ummmm, can't think of her name right now (I'm terrible with names of characters) The one that Zeta has "teamed" up with, the street-wise girl... she's a hoot! But, I recognize the RL voice, just can't place who it is! *pulls out hair*
I missed the X-Men 'toon - Denis is going to kill me! I taped Zeta Project for him and was suppose to tape X-Men Evolution too *cringes*
*gives Denis my best "Jannie eyes"* forgive me, love? *w*

Jannie
Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:30:55 PM
IP: 209-144-251-232.hou.port.mytelco.com

It's almost Superbowl time!!! Tomorrow, my beloved Baltimore Ravens face against the hated New York Giants!

(Notice how I've claimed the Ravens as my own. I am really a Washington Redskins fan, but let's be honest--their asses are gonna be warming the easy chairs back home come tomorrow evening. You want my love, you have to be able to deliver!

I'm excited about the game. I'm hoping that the Ravens will win, especially against the Giants. I LOATHE New York sports teams....come to think of it, there's not really a whole lot I like about New York, period. Besides Rudy Guiliani, that is. THAT man is a saint. Anyway, if the Ravens lose, I will seriously consider that there is no God. Or that there is a God, but that he hates us humans for allowing the Giants to win.
On the plus side, though, if the Giants do win, it could be a very bittersweet victory. After all, I would imagine that if the Ravens lose, Ray Lewis won't be happy, and we all know what happens to those unfortunate individuals who make Lewis or his friends unhappy....

Attila: I wouldn't say that Green Baron and I disagree *that* often, and there's usually no real animosity when we do. Just a few minor differences in opinion. You, on the other hand, you naughty little cat, you are a bad influence on me. ;)

Spacebabie: 24?! *backpedals* Well, you just sound so sweet and innocent, I assumed that you were slightly younger. :) You are a baby after all! ;)

Rage Against The Machine: I heard that their lead singer left, news that gives me no end to pleasure. God, I can't stand this band. Call it communism (and I do), call it social commentary, the only thing I know is that every Rage song has the same message (at least to me): you are evil because you are a capitalist pig. And that's not even factoring in all the racial stuff....nothing I love more than getting fed another happy helping of guilt just because I had the misfortune of being born into a middle-class white family.
Sorry if that offends anyone. Must not seem as if I'm trying to railroad anyone here....but I am Johnny Patriot, and the last thing I want to do is pay 18 bucks for a CD of a bunch of angry Marxists screaming at me because I dare to be capitalistic. I bet they even voted for Ralph Nader.

Todd: I'm sure that Marvel will bring Cyclops back from the dead. Here's the rub--in the comics, they just killed off Colossus. I mean, he's dead, and it's for real (well, as real as comics get). It gripes my ass to know that Colossus will probably rot in the ground longer than Cyclops will, when Colossus is one thousand times more interesting than Scott will every be. Ah, the frustrations of a fanboy.

But GREAT news for all you comic and/or sci-fi fans! Starting in April, genre GOD J. Michael Stracynski will begin writing Amazing Spider-Man. Finally, a reason to read that book, after more than 29 horrible issues of the Plague-That-Is-Howard-Mackie.

Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:44:16 PM
IP: 207-172-87-214.s214.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com

Lynati>> Geez woman, gimme a break.. yer HOT and you know it.. ;) mmmmmmm Lynati... er.. I mean.. something..
Anyway, you are beautiful, so don't you ever DARE let anyone tell you different, you hear me????? (and women with muscle mass aren't attractive?? *looks down at self* oh CARP!!) ;)

Green Baron>> *SMOOCHIES* it was really nice to hear your voice again, my sweet thank you soooooooo much for calling..
some day I shall HAVE to show you all those GB goyles.. without their suits.. heh heh heh.. ;) *plays with pencil crayons*

Warpmind>> yes.. well.. don't we all post in bathrobes or.. less.. er.. I mean.. ;)
I am also in an art phase.. so if you want gargs drawn, lain be at your service ;)

Gunjack Valentine>> hola dude!! Don't suppose you have that tape yet, do you??? or am I REALLY gonna get that big fine and a criminal record.. eeeeeek... just when the army is gonna ask me if I have one and do a big shiny background check.. and see if I have ever smoked pot ]:) what me???

I had the most terrible dream last night.. I usually don't remember my dreams but this one seemed to stick.. mosty because of the fax that came at 430 am and woke me up but.. anyway..
I dreamed that I had this strange cancer in my right forearm arm, and that it had to be amputated. Which wasn't really so wierd. THe wierd part was when it was my father who was doing the operation in our basement with me on the desk.. AND he was doing it with my mother's hairdressing scissors.. I was conscious, but couldn't actually feel anything, just hear the particular sound that those scissors make. He was cutting at the elbow and I remember that I was crying when he came to the part where "if I cut this, there is no going back" or something. I was sooo afraid, I was having visions of not being able to join the army or.. being in karate and not being able to defend myself proporly and I was crying and crying and thought I might rather die than be helpless but.. I told him to do it anyway :( it was REALLY wierd..
I kinda wonder what it means.. but.. my mother's HAIRDRESSING scissors?? *shivers*

So that is my story of the day.

Last night, my father and I had a fancy date and went to see Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon which is a GOOD movie!!!! Hmmm.. I really love my dad, you know? He is the best dad in the world.. (though I admit I might be slightly biased..) I dunno what I will do without him :( *sighs*

And I am going to England for spring break, to see my Grandmother and all the rest of my family, who will wonder why I am wasting my time at a snooty university, instead of getting a REAL job, which involves REAL work (IE physical labour.. ) or better yet, being a housewife.. or working as a secretary or.. some other feminine occupation.. FEMININE SCHMEMININE!!!!! GAH!!! the last time I was feminine, it ended in DISASTER!!!! ;) So I am resigned to be just me.. oh well ;) Tis only for a week ..

I have no reslly useless info to post, except that they mapped the rice genome, which means they can genetically alter rice to make it more nutritious, which will help many people.. the only thing that TICKS ME OFF is that the company that mapped the genome is now going to charge stupidly large amounts for access to the info...

Anyway, that is all for today.
Methinks I must soon away to bed ;)
love,

lain "one armed" iwakura
the Great White North
Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:41:49 PM
IP: ttya05.ptbo.igs.net

Todd> In the comics, Forge has a cybernetic arm and leg. The arm looks totally normal, but the leg is an obvious prosthesis (IIRC).
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:40:00 PM
IP: adsl-65-65-209-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

DANGIT!!!
sooooo close..
;)

lain
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:47:30 PM
IP: ttya05.ptbo.igs.net

10th.
Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:43:19 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

**waves to Anonymous** Hiyas! :)

Coyote, others> I know it! I missed the X-Men show this morning too. But they'll have a new episode on next weekend too, as well as the weekend after that, before showing a rerun ("Speed and Spyke") on Feb. 17th. :) I hear the next one is another one about Rogue...

Lady Corax
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:28:28 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Somewhere around nine¡¡¡
Anonymous
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:20:58 PM
IP: proxy-1432.public.svc.webtv.net

10th?
Spacebabie
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:16:34 PM
IP: user-37kap2f.dialup.mindspring.com

You're kidding ... after SEVEN WEEKS OF RERUNS, X-Men was finally a new ep?! That's just great, the one Saturday I *don't* set my VCR for it, they put on the new one. :P
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, January 27, 2001 09:14:53 PM
IP: 216.28.101.39

Top Ten!
Mary Flanders
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:54:20 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Todd> Forge does have a mechanical arm in the comics, if I recall correctly. He also has part or all of one of his leg mechanized as well. I always kinda thought he was an interesting character. Too bad I missed the show this morning, though! :)
Lady Corax
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:46:03 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Sixth! Yeehaw! :)
Lady Corax
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:41:16 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Early! Fifth. More later.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:37:13 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Fourth.

All right, now that the room's cleared, time for reviews.

* SPOILERS FOLLOW *

X-MEN:EVOLUTION: I quite liked this morning's new episode. It had some very funny moments in it (such as Kitty, after her offer to deal with the projector by phasing through it was rejected in favor of the "have Cyclops blow it up with his eye blasts" notion, asking "What is it with guys and explosions?", or Toad using the projector to get revenge on Mystique by zapping away her office furniture and her car - too bad that they never showed Mystique finding out that he was the one behind it, though). Some effective character development for Rogue (I like the bit where she's watching the X-Men leaving the school building from a distance), and for Nightcrawler and Cyclops, too. And we get to see for the first time Kitty's expertise with computers and things technological.

Although I do have the feeling that Scott just isn't going to be able to loosen up, despite his resolution; let's face it, according to what I've heard, his reputation among X-Men fans as a guy with as much personality as a turnip (or is that considered an insult to turnips?) is a very strong one. (I recall that a while ago, there was some discussion here about him being killed off in the comics and many people were bringing up just how stiff and boring he is).

So, to those of you out there more familiar with the X-Men comics than I am - does Forge have a mechanical arm in the comics? Or is that the cartoon's invention?

ZETA PROJECT: The premiere's a promising one. As I said before, the animation's not all that great, but the characters are well-realized. They do a good job of contrasting Zeta's idealistic naivetie with Ro's more street-smart attitude. And the three federal agents are effectively individualized: Bennet as a very effective antagonist, cold, efficient, and ruthless, West as a comic-relief bungler (I LOL when, after he suggested simply blowing Zeta up, Bennet promptly extended his period without a side-arm by another day), and Lee as the one who has considered the possibility that maybe Zeta really doesn't want to cause anybody any trouble. This looks like it could be a good series. I'll be looking forward to the other episodes.

* SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:33:36 PM
IP: 216.87.46.28.dialup-stl.primary.net

Third!
Lynati
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:20:47 PM
IP: 205.185.1.27

Top Ten. Better be. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:16:37 PM
IP: 216.28.101.39

1st!
tim
Saturday, January 27, 2001 08:15:37 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu