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oK.

**Work Related**
My drug test came in today. I found this out, not by the work of the HR person at my plant, but by visiting the place where I will go for Orientation. My company has two plants in the same city; no, they do not work on the same things.
**END WORK RELATED**

Yes, I like the way this page is redone.

Kit - Let's see: Enclycopedia Demonica, Hope Island, nevermind.

kit - well, the company is called Molex, not the Illumaniti.

Darn, I need to get one of those Illumaniti pins. Anybody know where to find them?

That's all, folks.



DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:12:41 PM
IP: max1-48.cwy.cei.net

Hello all! And happy Valentine's day! I hope your hearts are bleeding as much as mine.

Well, all my thunder has been stolen. I was going to talk about the Oscars and Razzies. Well, here's my analysis and predictions.

***SJ's PREDICTIONS FOR THE RAZZIES***

WORST PICTURE:

Battlefield Earth (Warner Bros.)
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 (Artisan)
The Flintstones In Viva Rock Vegas (Universal)
Little Nicky (New Line)
The Next Best Thing (Paramount)

Actually, if you ask me, there were so many horrible films this year, this category should have been much larger. I'm especially saddened that such stinkers as "Rocky and Bullwinkle" and the unbelievably mind-boggling "Dude, Where's My Car?" were left out. But I'm gonna choose Battlefield Earth, just cause I'd love to piss off the Scientologists even more.

WORST ACTOR:

Leonardo DiCaprio -- The Beach (20th Century-Fox)
Adam Sandler -- Little Nicky
Sylvester Stallone -- Get Carter (Warner Bros.)
Ah-nold Schwarzenegger (As The REAL Adam Gibson) -- The 6th
Day (Columbia)
John Travolta -- Battlefield Earth and Lucky Numbers (Paramount)

Now, I really don't think that Leo should be included in this. I actually liked the movie "The Beach". I thought it was pretty good....of course, it was nothing near as good as the book. The book is BRILLIANT. Alex Garland is one of the finest writers of our "Generation X" generation. Well, Stallone is one tough contender for this award, as is Ahnuld, but Travolta walks away with this. Maybe he should have hooked himself up to an e-meter before he made this movie to see if doing so was such a great idea.

WORST ACTRESS:

Kim Basinger -- Bless the Child (Paramount) and I Dreamed of Africa
(Columbia)
Melanie Griffith -- Cecil B. Demented (Artisan)
Madonna -- The Next Best Thing
Bette Midler -- Isn't She Grating (Universal)
Demi Moore -- Passion of Mind (Paramount Classics)

I haven't even heard of have of these movies. Oh well, go with what you know--Madonna. She can't act her way out of a paper bag. A wet paper bag.

WORST SCREEN COUPLE:

Any 2 Actors -- Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
Richard Gere & Winona Ryder -- Autumn in New York (MGM/UA)
Madonna & EITHER Rupert Everett OR Benjamin Bratt -- The Next
Best Thing
Ah-nold (As The REAL Adam Gibson) & Ah-nold (As The CLONE
of Adam Gibson) -- The 6th Day
John Travolta and Anyone Sharing the Screen with Him -- Battlefield
Earth

John Travolta is a nexus upon which all matter collapses and implodes.


WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS:

Patricia Arquette -- Little Nicky
Joan Collins -- The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas
Thandie Newton -- Mission: Impossible 2 (Paramount)
Kelly Preston -- Battlefield Earth
Rene Russo -- The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle (Universal)

I'm not going to choose Thandie Newton, cause damnit, she's HOT! She made me slightly less outraged that I paid 7.50 to go see Mission Impossible 2. I choose Patricia Arquette, for having the supreme misfortune of being in that stupid Adam Sandler film.....oh wait, that describes ALL of Adam Sandler's films.....well, the latest one.


WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR:

Stephen Baldwin -- The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas
Barry Pepper -- Battlefield Earth
Keanu Reeves -- The Watcher (Universal)
Ah-nold Schwarzenegger (As The CLONE of Adam Gibson) -- The
6th Day
Forest Whitaker -- Battlefield Earth

Oh God, what a category.....all are very strong contenders. ANYTHING that Stephen Baldwin does is utterly horrible. But I'm gonna go ahead and choose Keanu Reeves. The longer it takes to squeeze out another Matrix movie, the more I remember that Keanu has all of the acting talent of tampon. A *used* tampon.


WORST REMAKE OR SEQUEL:

Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal)
The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas
Get Carter
Mission: Impossible 2

Dr. Seuss is a soulless creation that has earned Jim Carrey and Ron Howard their rightful place in hell.
BTW, just as an aside, how many of you in here are, like me, bigger fans of Clint Howard than his brother Ron?


WORST DIRECTOR:

Joe Berlinger -- Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
Steven Brill -- Little Nicky
Roger Christian -- Battlefield Earth
Brian DePalma -- Mission To Mars (Disney)
John Schlesinger -- The Next Best Thing

No one can escape the ungodly abomination that is Battlefield Earth.


WORST SCREENPLAY:

Battlefield Earth
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas
Little Nicky
The Next Best Thing

I don't know. At this point I've lost the will to live.

****END SJ'S RAZZIE PREDICTIONS***

***FOLLOWED BY SJ's OSCAR PREDICTIONS****

Performance by an actor in a leading role
Javier Bardem in Before Night Falls (Fine Line)
Russell Crowe in Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal)
Tom Hanks in Cast Away (20th Century Fox and
DreamWorks)
Ed Harris in Pollock (Sony Pictures Classics)
Geoffrey Rush in Quills (Fox Searchlight)

What the F*** is up with this category??? Javier Bardem? Who the hell is that? And Ed Harris? How much crack did Ed Harris have to give the Academy voters to get his name on there??? How the hell does Ed Harris get a nom, and the Academy fails to recognize George Clooney, who won the damn Golden Globe??? Christ, this is frustrating. If Russell Crowe does not win this, I will be ready to do some gladiator-style fighting of my own.
You just watch, though, the bastards will give this to that freak from Quills. Jalapeno.

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Jeff Bridges in The Contender (DreamWorks and
Cinerenta/Cinecontender)
Willem Dafoe in Shadow of the Vampire (Lions Gate)
Benicio Del Toro in Traffic (USA Films)
Albert Finney in Erin Brockovich (Universal and Columbia)
Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal)

I really could care less about this category. But, for some reason, I like Benicio Del Toro, just cause he had the funniest scenes in "The Usual Suspects" as the mush-mouthed Fenster.
Fenster: I had some guy's finger up my asshole tonight.
Hockney: Oh, is it Friday already?
I take it back--Usual Suspects was the one movie that Stephen Baldwin did that was good. But, as the saying goes, even the sun will shine occasionally on a dog's rear end.

Performance by an actress in a leading role
Joan Allen in The Contender (DreamWorks and
Cinerenta/Cinecontender)
Juliette Binoche in Chocolat (Miramax)
Ellen Burstyn in Requiem for a Dream (Artisan)
Laura Linney in You Can Count On Me (Paramount
Classics/Shooting Gallery/Hart Sharp Entertainment in
association with Cappa Productions)
Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich (Universal and Columbia)

I'm beginning to get horribly depressed here. Look, we ALL know that Julia Roberts is going to win. Why kid ourselves? Which is sad, cause I want her to win LEAST of all. I couldn't stand that movie. I took my mom to see it, because she loves Julia Roberts, Julia Roberts is her favorite actress, blah blah blah (the things we do for our mothers!). This movie was HORRIBLE. There were only 2 good things about the film, and they existed in Julia's halter top. She's gonna win, but I'd rather have Ellen Burstyn win, because evidently her performance is supposedly one of the best ever. EVER. Whatever. I plan to go eat a sandwich when they announce this one.

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Judi Dench in Chocolat (Miramax)
Marcia Gay Harden in Pollock (Sony Pictures Classics)
Kate Hudson in Almost Famous (DreamWorks and
Columbia)
Frances McDormand in Almost Famous (DreamWorks and
Columbia)
Julie Walters in Billy Elliot (Universal Focus)

Wow, yet another category I could care less about. How about I just go with my total, utter base instincts--I'm gonna cheer for Kate Hudson, because she's the only one of these women who I would actually enjoy fornicating with. So there.

Achievement in art direction
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) Art Direction: Tim Yip
Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal)
Art Direction: Michael Corenblith, Set Decoration: Merideth
Boswell
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) Art Direction: Arthur
Max, Set Decoration: Crispian Sallis
Quills (Fox Searchlight) Art Direction: Martin Childs, Set
Decoration: Jill Quertier
Vatel (Miramax) Art Direction: Jean Rabasse, Set
Decoration: Francoise Benoit-Fresco

Ah, one of those categories no one gives a rat's ass about. Crouching Tiger, all the way.

Achievement in cinematography
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) Peter Pau
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) John Mathieson
Malèna (Miramax) Lajos Koltai
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (Buena Vista) Roger Deakins
The Patriot (Sony Pictures Releasing) Caleb Deschanel

I'm not paying attention at this point.


Achievement in costume design
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) Tim Yip
Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal)
Rita Ryack
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) Janty Yates
102 Dalmatians (Buena Vista) Anthony Powell
Quills (Fox Searchlight) Jacqueline West

Blah blah blah, not listening.....

Achievement in directing
Billy Elliot (Universal Focus) Stephen Daldry
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) Ang Lee
Erin Brockovich (Universal and Columbia) Steven
Soderbergh
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) Ridley Scott
Traffic (USA Films) Steven Soderbergh

AH! A real category. Well, apparently, if you have not heard by now, Steven Sodenburgh is something akin to a god. I say poo poo, poo poo on you. Screw Sodenburgh, if Ang Lee does not win this, I will take my magic Chinese sword and skewer the Academy voters. Alas, I think they're gonna give it to Sodenbergh for Traffic, even though he DOESN'T deserve to win.


Best foreign language film of the year
Amores Perros An AltaVista Films Production, Mexico
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon A Zoom Hunt
International Production, Taiwan
Divided We Fall A Total Helpart T.H.A./Czech Television
Production, Czech Republic
Everybody Famous An Otomatic Production, Belgium
The Taste of Others A Telema/Les Films A4/France 2
Cinema Production, France

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. No one else has a chance. Which worries me--CTHD may win this, but lose the big prize. I hope not.

Achievement in makeup
The Cell (New Line) Michèle Burke and Edouard Henriques
Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal)
Rick Baker and Gail Ryan
Shadow of the Vampire (Lions Gate) Ann Buchanan and
Amber Sibley

How the Cell got nominated for an Academy Award, I will never know. That's a deal made with Satan. What, no best actress nod for J-Lo??


Achievement in music in connection with motion
pictures (Original song)
"A Fool In Love" from Meet the Parents (Universal and
DreamWorks) Music and Lyric by Randy Newman
"I've Seen It All" from Dancer in the Dark (Fine Line) Music
by Björk, Lyric by Lars von Trier and Sjon Sigurdsson
"A Love Before Time" from Crouching Tiger, Hidden
Dragon (Sony Pictures Classics) Music by Jorge Calandrelli
and Tan Dun, Lyric by James Schamus
"My Funny Friend and Me" from The Emperor's New
Groove (Buena Vista) Music by Sting and David Hartley,
Lyric by Sting
"Things Have Changed" from Wonder Boys (Paramount and
Mutual Film Company) Music and Lyric by Bob Dylan

I know we have some Bjork fans in here, but not a chance she wins. They're gonna give it to that walking mummy, Bob Dylan.
I'm sorry if that offends Bob Dylan fans, but personally, I loathe pretty much everything to come out of the sixties except 1) the civil rights movement 2) landing on the moon 3) Elvis Aaron Presley. Musics, especially Dylan's, tops the list of most loathsome.


Best motion picture of the year
Chocolat (Miramax) A David Brown Production, David
Brown, Kit Golden and Leslie Holleran, Producers
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) A Zoom Hunt International Production, Bill Kong,
Hsu Li Kong and Ang Lee, Producers
Erin Brockovich (Universal and Columbia) A Jersey Films
Production, Danny DeVito, Michael Shamberg and Stacey
Sher, Producers
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) A Douglas Wick in
association with Scott Free Production, Douglas Wick,
David Franzoni and Branko Lustig, Producers
Traffic (USA Films) A Bedford Falls/Laura Bickford
Production, Edward Zwick, Marshall Herskovitz and Laura
Bickford, Producers

Harvey Weinstein of Miramax must have been giving away free coke and handjobs like they were candy to get Chocolat nominated for an Oscar. I'll say this--they'll probably give it to Traffic, because they've attached that arrogant "it's an important, thought-provoking film" bullcrap to it. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon deserves to win. It is, quite simply, the single bright jem in a year of horrible movies. Gladiator is an okay film....I liked it, I really did. CTHD is a classic. It's epic. It is quite simply the most beautiful, wonderful movie that I've seen all year, and I dare say that already, after only seeing it 3 times, it is one of my all-time favorite films. It's a goddamn masterpiece, and I want it to win so badly I'm willing to practice Santeria to work the voodoo necessary for it to get that naked little Patrick Stewart.

Screenplay based on material previously produced or
published
Chocolat (Miramax) Screenplay by Robert Nelson Jacobs
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony Pictures
Classics) Written by Wang Hui Ling and James Schamus
and Tsai Kuo Jung
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (Buena Vista) Written by
Ethan Coen & Joel Coen
Traffic (USA Films) Screenplay by Stephen Gaghan
Wonder Boys (Paramount and Mutual Film Company)
Screenplay by Steve Kloves

I'd love to see CTHD win, but I think O Brother, Where Art Thou will win.

Screenplay written directly for the screen
Almost Famous (DreamWorks and Columbia) Written by
Cameron Crowe
Billy Elliot (Universal Focus) Written by Lee Hall
Erin Brockovich (Universal and Columbia) Written by
Susannah Grant
Gladiator (DreamWorks and Universal) Screenplay by David
Franzoni and John Logan and William Nicholson
Story by David Franzoni
You Can Count On Me (Paramount Classics/Shooting
Gallery/Hart Sharp Entertainment in association with Cappa
Productions) Written by Kenneth Lonergan

Cameron Crowe wins. So there.

And so ends one of the worst years for movies, EVER.

****END SJ's OSCAR PREDICTIONS***

lain: Awww......no need for a lady to be alone on this day. **presents her with flowers, chocolate, and a teddy bear** I'll be your valentine. If you'll have me.

Kirshanta: Hey, no problem. Glad to support you.

JMS stuff: This is GOOD news. I'll be very happy to see Crusade again, and I hope this means we may get a revived Crusade series. And the Bab 5 DVDs are gonna be sweeeet. I'm already saving to get all of the Farscape DVDs that are coming out now.

Just Keep Her Away From The Water: Kirk is at it again. Yep, Shatner is getting hitched again. Let's hope to God this new wife knows how to swim.


Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:59:51 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Oh yes, welcome to NukesGoBoom also. Forgot to say that ;)

Hmm, am I the only one who thinks that Liz pic Daphne is using looks like Sarah Michelle Gellar?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:42:43 PM
IP: dialin-313-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

[trying out an image for the first time]

Kit>> <: Are you implying love is just sex, or that sex isn't worthy of celebration?> no and no. I'm just saying I think it's overkill. I'm not *organizing* an boycott, I'm *announcing* that I myself am boycotting. I know, it's semantics. what can I say? I'm an apprentice wordsmith :)
<You can always go stag to the prom> actually, I'd prefer to, but the archaic rules say that you must have a date. As in, when you buy a ticket, it's for two people and you register your date, or else you don't go. [bitter about the blatant single-ism]




Daphne
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:39:51 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.200.234.philadelphia1.level3.net

I'm really starting to like this Apep picture.

Yes, welcome Ryan. And welcome to NukesGoBoom as well, since I seem to have missed you before. Interesting name. :)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:38:05 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Ryan> Glad you like the site, why don't you check out the stories as well while you're here. Also, welcome to the CR, hope to see you post again.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:27:22 PM
IP: dialin-313-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Cool website. I like the pictures and MP3's.
Ryan - [computerdude39@yahoo.ca]
Powell River, BC, Canada
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 08:58:32 PM
IP: h24-70-222-232.cc.shawcable.net

Cool. New pictures. I've never used one before now, but for some reason this one just shouted "pick me!" Thanks to Lady Mystic, Fire Storm, and Gorebash! :)

And since Jessie provided the Oscar nominations, here's a little something to counterpoint them:

The 21st Annual Golden Raspberry Awards (The Razzies)

Worst Picture
--Battlefield Earth
--Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
--The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas
--Little Nicky
--The Next Best Thing

Worst Actor
--Leonardo DiCaprio (The Beach)
--Adam Sandler (Little Nicky)
--Sylvester Stallone (Get Carter)
--Arnold Schwarzenegger (The 6th Day)
--John Travolta (Battlefield Earth *and* Lucky Numbers)

Worst Actress
--Kim Basinger (Bless the Child)
--Melanie Griffith (Cecil B. Demented)
--Madonna (The Next Best Thing)
--Bette Midler (Isn't She Great)
--Demi Moore (Passion of Mind)

Worst Supporting Actor
--Stephen Baldwin (The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas)
--Barry Pepper (Battlefield Earth)
--Keanu Reeves (The Watcher)
--Arnold Schwarzenegger (The 6th Day)
--Forest Whitaker (Battlefield Earth)

Worst Supporting Actress
--Patricia Arquette (Little Nicky)
--Joan Collins (The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas)
--Thandie Newton (Mission: Impossible 2)
--Kelly Preston (Battlefield Earth)
--Rene Russo (The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle)

Oh, and Battlefield Earth also received nominations for Worst Screen Couple, Worst Director, and Worst Screenplay in addition to those listed above. In fact, Battlefield Earth received more nominating votes than any other film in the history of the Razzies. :P
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Aaron:
<<I'm slowly becoming Wilek>> Dear God, no! Repent! The end of the world is nigh! :)

Have you ever seen Ultimate Survivor? www.killfrog.com
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WARNING: I've just eaten a rather large piece of chocolate cake; You Have Been Warned.
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lain:
The Phoenix Fire suits you well. :) Don't worry; you're not the only one who has no one today, and it is only _one_ day.
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Ordell:
Babylon 5? Nice! I can't wait to get my hands on those DVDs. I sure hope they're the widescreen versions; they will look sweet on my new wide screen Titanium PowerBook G4. :)
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Kirshanta:
Everyone overreacts from time to time. A sign of true maturity is to realize when you are wrong and admit it. You and Kit have both done that, and as far as I'm concerned (although my opinion is, admittedly, irrelevant) there is nothing more to be said. Of course, I'm also completely insane, so perhaps it's best not to listen to me. :)

Oh, and please continue your debates with Ed; I find them very interesting.
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*Gets glomped by Spacebabie* Ooof! Thanks!
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Warpmind:
Heh, getting used to walking while crouched? Don't worry; Deus Ex tends to do that. :) Just as long as you don't start trying to solve problems with a sniper rifle or GEP gun.
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Gunjack:
Good luck on the crises.
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Kitainia:
Thanks. I'm not even sure my mother is aware of what happened. Some more bad news that affects me indirectly: I've mentioned before that the fiance of a friend and coworker of mine has brain cancer. He's been fighting it for two years now, but it looks like it may be the end of the road. He's in the hospital again, and today my friend said for the first time "he's dying." He has been for awhile, of course, but now she's beginning to admit it. Unlike the situation with my mother, they have no money and no insurance, and because they're not married yet, she has no legal rights. It's a tough situation and I'm doing what I can to help (having gone through something frighteningly similar), but prayers might be a good thing now. Sorry for rambling, but I'm upset since she's a good friend and a great person who doesn't deserve this.
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Gside:
Norm has every tool known to man. He is the god of power tools. ;) While I am primarily a computer-oriented person, I am not immune to tool envy. My boss has a cordless Makita compound miter saw that is incredibly cool.

Ok, that's enough for now. And remember: the word for the day is lingonberry.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 08:18:54 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Demons> Think about the Angelverse instead of Buffyverse. Wesley knows there are more then just bad demons
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 08:12:09 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-128-111.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Buffy Spoilers




Did anyone else notice that Buffy's reaction to Spike's declaration of love was almost identical to Spike's reaction when he realized it himself?

End Buffy Spoilers
Mandolin I take it you don't hang out at the Buffy Cross and Stake Spoiler Board often? They've got the (alleged) scoop on the next several episodes. I've actually decided I'm going spoiler free for the rest of the season because there's just too much that's going to happen from now on out.
kathy
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:45:17 PM
IP: rr-26-76-30.atl.mediaone.net

re: "Equality" and Quake>> Actually, I emailed i.d. software when I was writing this story and asked permission to use Quake in it. They wrote back and said they were very flattered and pleased that I'd asked. I sent them the URL but I never did hear back from them. As for the commercial references, "Equality" was the 1st TGS story finished and was in post-production limbo while the whole Practice and Standards arguments were going on. No one ever thought about going back and fixing it before it posted so "Equality" is unique in the TGS story collection.
Spike
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:36:44 PM
IP: adsl-208-190-38-154.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Working the bugs out...
Fire Storm
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:31:04 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Actually, I've been wondering lately if demons in the Buffyverse are automatically evil short of a gypsy curse. After all, we've seen a number of "good" demons in the series (such as Whistler and the Host). In fact, that's been leading me to a bit of a speculation:

Could it be that the evil demons in the Buffyverse got that way not because they were demons (in the sense of demons being inherently evil) but out of bitterness? In the series, we learn that the demons originally inhabited the world before humans appeared, but then lost their foothold in it somehow, were banished, and humans came along. Now, a dispossessed people generally tends to get extremely bitter about its loss, and often wants to get back what it lost. And we've seen that in the Buffyverse, a lot of the villainous demons want to reclaim the world from humanity. Could it be that what we're dealing with is a more widespread version of the Demona Syndrome, as it were? That the evil demons are evil not because demons are automatically or inherently evil but because they became embittered over losing Earth to humans, and want vengeance? It does seem worth speculating about.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:01:09 PM
IP: 216.87.46.196.dialup-stl.primary.net

Lady Mystic> Yes, but "Pendragon" season 3 hadn't premered yet, and I was concerned with spoilers, as we didn't want to reveal that the woman was indeed Morgana. But everyone knows it's Morgana now anyway, so I suppose the point is moot.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:00:53 PM
IP: dialin-737-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky: Should have told me that when I was asking for suggestions on pic names during our CR pics poll back in June/July.
Lady Mystic
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:56:07 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Forgot a few things...

The Voting Session ended Feb. 13th. I appologize for not being able to post a deadline countdown. Stats on the poll will be uploaded as soon as I finish a few things first.

It's so cool to view an image via one browser page with a text color pop-up box overlapping it to see how the combo looks. :)
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:54:41 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Sorry for yet another post, but this pic should be titled "Morgana In Disguise" rather than "Morrigan & Crow".
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:53:46 PM
IP: dialin-737-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Sorry for the double post. But I'm really happy to see this update. Now, more than ever it seems that there is at least one pic for everybody. Thanks Gorebash, Firestorm, Lady Mystic...
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:49:37 PM
IP: dialin-737-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Gunjack> That pic is so you ;)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:47:52 PM
IP: dialin-737-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*Temporarily disengages from Warps to go over and hand lain a small bouquet of yellow roses*
Don't worry, laincob, soon things in shiny silver wrapping will greatly cheer you. Trust me, for I have been granted certain knowledges...*nudges wrapping paper back under bed with toe*...and have thusly divined this.
;)

Shinigami:*Grins* yeah...I know the feeling...*continues to grin in an almost maniacle fashion*

Gunjack: Just wondering...naw, I'll send you the art later, if I actually finish it.

TGS Staff people: The update, new pics and comments section and everything, is reeeaally good. *applaudes those responsible*

*Drifts back to Warpmind*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:45:51 PM
IP: posseisdn204.the-posse.com

Now this, THIS is a nice suprrise. 8D ...It fits my color, even! *chuckles* ...And I've got an alternate, for more serious occasions. Joy abounds.
Gunjack "Hapiness is a Pressed Suit" Valentine
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:44:06 PM
IP: 216-146-183-68.bwn.net

C'mon people, it's VD-14. In the words of Vash the Stampede: "LOVE AND PEACE!"

And to think, I used to hate this time of year. (snuggles with Mara)

How long ago did I post? I swear, Wilek is becoming Traveler, and I'm slowly becoming Wilek.

SJ> Well, remember the announcers are new at this too. You can't expect them to be like Madden/Summerall, (who have like what, 150 years of pro-football experience between them?) right out of the box. As for having the cheerleaders interview people, well, maybe the players would quit running away from the sideline reporters, ne? And I hope my town gets an XFL franchise too. I mean, we're a city of maybe 1.2 million. The NFL is never going to seriously consider us, especially with a major media market like LA crying for a team. And we do have this giant dome sitting around collecting dust. And we wouldn't have to spend an obscene amount of money on luxury upgrades, ‘cause those go against the spirit of the XFL. Yeah, the LA/Chicago game was great, but Vegas still had better cheerleaders. ;)

Third Austin Powers> I'm still waiting for Seth Green to get to play a dual role.

The Wizards suck> Yes, but at least y'all got the All Star game this year.

EJ/MM> Well, like the song goes, "If you don't like my sh!t then you can suck my dick." Since EJ likes MM's sh!t, he's safe.

hyperion> <<God says: "the bad news is, I'm calling from Salt Lake City">> So, the one true religion revolves around the Jazz? ;)

Emmambu> I dunno what's with the Sixers right now. Maybe after the All Star break... Hope they can still take LA tonight without Ratliff in the middle.

Jannie> Interesting post on religion, kinda reminds me of a Dean Koontz story I read a long time ago. I'll have to paraphrase, but it goes something like this. "God gave humans free will. Misuse of that will, making the wrong choices, causes all the suffering in the world. Meanwhile, the good things in life are regarded as blessings. So, god is responsible for everything right in my life, and I'm responsible for everything that's wrong. And that's why I'm an atheist." Not my view per se, but, any thoughts? Any one else wanna have a crack at it. Gunjack?

Mary> (Hugs) Hang in there girl. Ever consider that you're fine, it's the people around you who're mental? Yes, I love Zits. It's me and my best friend circa age 15.

Gunjack><<Sheep are seldom purple.>> But they are sometimes orange.

Warpy><<That's it; I now know more about you and Mara than I ever thought I'd be wanting to... ;)>> Well, the spiked collar would hardly be complete otherwise... Besides, we're hentai, and I'm still disappointed you're the only one odds are being offered on. ;) And speaking of hentai, I actually have a catalog that sells Xxxenophile. You interested? <<send Lynati a bracelet, and send me a matching collar.>> Changed your mind about that leash, I take it?

Welcome NukesGoBoom.

DPH> I have no idea where my diploma is.

Caliope> <<that way not only will you be happy studing>> Well, we know what Cali's majoring in don't we? ;) (figured I'd grab that one before Gside got to it)

Tim> So the rumors were true, eh? Kewl. And I'd pay to see a Thurmond/Dre duet too.

Patrick, or should I call you Chad?> Yes, The Truman Show is great. Probably better without commercials. Jim Carrey got rooked at the Oscars that year. And no way would Steve Irwin ever back off. "Now, watch what happens when I do *this*." (Does something mind-blowingly stupid) "Cor blimey, that's the biggest laser cannon I've ever seen!"

Mandi> (Claps) You're exactly right. It's a shame it takes something like that to make us realize it tho'.

Wilek><<Um...why do guys have this reaction to the thought of an F/F relationship? It's not like they're going to ask him to join them.>> True, but there's also no guy to feel jealous of and/or inferior to. << Do straight chicks react this way to M/M couples? If so, why, and if not, why the double standard, hm?>> I dunno about straight chicks, but Mara's a big yaoi fan, and for pretty much the reason listed above. <<Suddenly, I'm curious: How does one decide what team to be a fan of? Is it a geographic thing, does it involve uniform aesthetics, do you cast lots? O_o>> Mostly, sometimes, and not to my knowledge. Sometimes it's finding a team that meshes with your personality. Which is why Death is a Knicks fan. As for you... I don't think they have a sport for you to get behind yet. Maybe when roller derby makes a comeback.

lain> But I need my anger. I'd be dead without it. I mean, have you seen the way people *drive* around here? ;)

Spacebabie> Hey, I've used that stuff. But then I've got a bit of a mane of my own. Or is it a tail? :)

Pissy> Well, James doesn't seem to know what hentai tentacles actually *do*. (I can't describe it without violating the CR rating, but it sure as heck isn't massages)

Dreamie><<Yet there's nothing like black and leopard print ones to make you feel powerful.>> Mmmm, leopard print....

Gside> <<I find it interesting that the porn industry is essentially the frontrunner in video compression and online distribution technologies.>> Laws of supply and demand, dude.

Kit> Um, Elton John and Eimenem are doing a duet at the *Grammys,* not the Oscars. Funny, this is the first year since ‘95 that I might actually watch. But if Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon doesn't get best picture I'm going to be very upset.

Archwolf> Welcome back.

Revel> Like they say, if you don't like the weather in Texas, wait five minutes.

We had a Gorebash siting!

And the new Phoenix fire pic is cool!

Jessie> Well, we had some dogs, but there was some good ones too. *cough* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon *cough*

Survivor> I think Survivor is too easy, so I've taken the liberty of drawing up these proposals for future Survivors:

Survivor III: Club Gung-ho. Contestants are hunted by armed mercenaries, and must avoid being shot, blown up, or eaten by a giant wolf-monster.

Survivor IV: The Island of Amazon Women. First one to die of sexual exhaustion gets voted off the island.

Survivor V: New York. Contestants must spend three months as New York homeless people. (This one's hard to film, but worth it)

Survivor VI: OZ. Contestants must spend three months in a maximum security prison, with no special privileges. And if you renounce your conversion to Islam after winning, you lose the money.

Anybody got any others?

Oh, and one more thing...

In the spirit of the holiday, Aaron, Mara, and their respective crews, get together to celebrate. And what better way to celebrate the day then by mercilessly ripping the work of another. Hey, you celebrate your way, and we'll celebrate ours.

*********This has been a shameless plug**************

Later.


Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:40:36 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

:::A Dark cloaked figure walks slowly into the CR, deep eyes shining under the hood:::

:::A small slender hand reaches from under the cloak, pulling out one perfect, red rose, and placing it delicately on a crystal pedestal in the middle of the CR:::

:::softly::: Happy Valentine's Day.

:::The hooded female pads slowly from the CR, a tan tail swishing slightly behind her:::
Dreamie
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:37:41 PM
IP: ac8172ad.ipt.aol.com

Like the new pics.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:19:16 PM
IP: dialin-737-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Oops, hit submit too soon.

BEST PICTURE
CHOCOLAT
CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON
ERIN BROCKOVICH
GLADIATOR
TRAFFIC

WRITING (ADAPTED)
CHOCOLAT
CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON
O BROTHER, WHERE ART THOU?
TRAFFIC
WONDER BOYS

WRITING (ORIGINAL)
ALMOST FAMOUS
BILLY ELLIOT
ERIN BROCKOVICH
GLADIATOR
YOU CAN COUNT ON ME


Talk amongst yourselves. Is it just me, or was this a pretty bad year for movies?
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:17:11 PM
IP: dialup7-39.mrs.umn.edu

sorry about my over-exhuberance but.. finally.. a pic that fits ME!!!!

rising from the ashes and all....
sorry..

thank you, tis a great thing and I am overjoyed :D
lain, the projectfirebird
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:13:29 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

THE CR HAS UPDATED!!!

Thanks SO MUCH Gore! :)

Every post made before Gorebash's were not affected by the update. Those posts were written into the page's coding before the update and thus cannot be "updated."

But every post made after will be affected by the update. When the room wipes an update to the navigation at the top of the page will occur. If you can't seem to view an update to the room or the add comment page, please hit SHIFT+Reload to overwrite your cached version.

*** WARNING ***

Now you have no excuses to disregard CR Rules. View images, text colors, the archive, past and current weeks via the links on the add comment page. DON'T TEST IMAGES AND COLORS IN THE CR. Those pages exist to guard against that.

Once the CR wipes there will be a link to the index page of CR Information. You will be able to get to the aforementioned pages via that page.

If you have any question feel free to ask them in the CR. Be sure to direct them to me, Lady Mystic.

*** / WARNING ***

I've checked the images page to find a new image to post with. I'm not sure whether or not I'll stick with this image and text color combo, but I'm not going to fill the room with tests. Please do the same. Thanks. :)

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!

Kyryn: You're very welcome! :)
Lady Mystic - [<--- CR INFORMATION]
TGS CR Senior Admin.
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:13:19 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Yeah, I have been absent for a good long while. Been busy 'round here. Just stopping in to announce Oscar noms. :P

ACTOR -- LEADING
Javier Bardem - BEFORE NIGHT FALLS
Russell Crowe - GLADIATOR
Tom Hanks - CAST AWAY
Ed Harris - POLLOCK
Geoffrey Rush - QUILLS

ACTOR -- SUPPORTING
Jeff Bridges - THE CONTENDER
Willem Dafoe - SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE
Benicio Del Toro - TRAFFIC
Albert Finney - ERIN BROCKOVICH
Joaquin Phoenix - GLADIATOR

ACTRESS -- LEADING
Joan Allen - THE CONTENDER
Juliette Binoche - CHOCOLAT
Ellen Burstyn - REQUIEM FOR A DREAM
Laura Linney - YOU CAN COUNT ON ME
Julia Roberts - ERIN BROCKOVICH

ACTRESS -- SUPPORTING
Judi Dench - CHOCOLAT
Marcia Gay Harden - POLLOCK
Kate Hudson - ALMOST FAMOUS
Frances McDormand - ALMOST FAMOUS
Julie Walters - BILLY ELLIOT
Jessie Feff - [feff@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:10:58 PM
IP: dialup7-39.mrs.umn.edu

oh HO!!!!
I AM THE PHOENIX FIRE!!!!


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*HUGS THE CR PEOPLE WILDLY IN A FIT OF JOY!!!!!!!

love,
lain
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:07:39 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

***Kyryn peers in.***

New images> Coolies! Thanks Gorebash, Fire Storm, and Lady Mystic!

*grin* I think I'll stick with my old posting image, though.

Later All!

***Kyryn winks out.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 06:00:05 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

test...
Anonymous
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:58:47 PM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

Sweet. A Harthoth pic. I like.

I just really wanted to see what it looked like.

Hehe.
Alan - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:53:28 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

Sorry, I just have to make sure a few pics work...
Fire Storm
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:44:29 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Ladies and Gentlemen, Gargoyles, Fae, AI's, and other various species, sub-species, mutates, and everyone else...

I am PROUD to announce that we have new CR pics!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:43:02 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

This is a test of the CR testing system...
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:41:40 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Note to self - When involved in Valentine's day business via internet, do NOT absently mess with the powerstrip with your foot. 8 P

Off to work!

*Sits down on the couch next to Lain, and offers her more fudge*


Gunjack "Will you be my" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:29:21 PM
IP: 216-146-183-68.bwn.net

Just working some updates to the TGS room as Fire Storm asked, and making sure they work. :)
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:23:15 PM
IP: h0000f80562c5.ne.mediaone.net

** Niamhgold enters and sprinkles those little necco hearts all over the room **

Happy Valentine's Day, everyone! :D

Hopefully be back later with a longer post!

Adios! (And hugs to Dreamie, Doug, Winterwolf, Emambu, and Gside!)

Niamhgold
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 04:09:43 PM
IP: 206.41.204.68

hey GUNJACK>> will you.. um... be my VALENTINE???

*ducks*

sorry... I just COULDN'T hold back.. :D:D:D:D

****************UESLESS VALENTINE'S DAY INFO***************

Legend has it that there were two Christians, each named Valentine, both of whom suffered martyrdom on the same day. The day was February 14, and the mayrtrdom is supposed to have occurred during the reign of Claudius II or about C.E. 270. One was a bishop, the other a priest and both were subsequently canonized. The Bishop is said to have been so exceptionally distinguished for love and charity that his friendsinaugurates the custom of selecting his day, February 14, upon which to designate the choice of ones sweetheart.
Another theory is that the custom was altered and put forward from an old practice in the ancient Italian observance of Lupercalia. This festival, celebrated on the 15th of February, included among its ceremonies the custom of putting young women in a box from which they wer drawn out by the men. Old customs were hard to stamp out after the advent of Christianity and the priests of the early Church often did no more than transfer the innocent pagan practices to a Christian flavour. Thus the latter theory is probably correct; if so, connections to the custom of either of the Saints Valentine is accidental, and the practices of the day actually commemorate the Italian pagan festival, the Lupercalia.
*********************END USELESS VALENTINE'S DAY STUFF**************

noone sent ME any flowers... :( *sniffles*

*grumbles something about "mushy love day" and plonks on the couch*

love,
lain
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 04:03:49 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Hey all. If you're a Babylon 5 fan, check the following out. I found this in a newsgroups, from the Great Maker himself:

"As announced today in a press release from the SciFi Channel, the network has picked up all 13 episodes of Crusade for broadcast this Summer. This will be the first time the series has been broadcast since its brief, original run on TNT."

According to SCIFI, the shows won't be in widescreen, which is okay by me, since the station seems to mess that up anyways.

Something else of interest:

"On the topic of comics...I will be writing a one-off B5 Graphic Novel for Wildstorm that will debut later this year. I figure on writing it as soon as I get out from under my current deadlines."

To bad it won't be under Top Cow and probably won't have the same artists as Rising Stars or Midnight Nation (two AMAZING books you should really check out)... but still, it's B5...

But the real big thing in the message was this:

"And finally...yes, it's true, B5 will be coming out on DVD starting with The Gathering and In the Beginning, to be released in July. The series will start soon thereafter. I've been going over the artwork and related issues for WB
Home Video, and though at this time there's no supplementary material involved, at least as far as I know, it should be pretty cool. (Don't know yet which aspect ratio they'll be using, but my *guess* would be widescreen, now that WB is correcting the earlier versions.)"

Can we say "yay!"? That is going to be so freaking cool. I'm glad Warner is finally joining every other television studio in releasing their series on DVD...

*goes out doing the Snoopy/happy dance*
Alan Coleman "Ordell" Waltrip - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 03:26:36 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

Hi! I'm hoping you can help me. I'm looking for detailed pictures of Castle Wyvern, and maybe even blueprints. I want to re-create the castle for the con, so I need as many detailed pics as possible. Also, I am looking for coloring-book-style artwork of the gargoyles for an FKiSS (paper doll) project. If you can help me with either of these things, please email me. Don't post your response here, because I may not be back to the board before your comment vanishes. Thanks!
girl in the box - [girl@girlinthebox.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 03:01:08 PM
IP: pool1027.cvx19-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

*Warpmind sits next to Lynati at the fireplace, a nunusual shade of blue.*

Ironwolf: Now, I won't claim to have even seen a single episode of Buffy, Angel or any related series. :( However, I think it has been repeatedly mentioned that Angel was cursed to keep his soul, and thus his concience, since that would REALLY sting, him being dependent on feeding upon the living an' all...

By the way, I had fun today at work... one of the guys there is a BIGTIME conspiracy theorist; i freaked him out like nobody before me had... we discussed a few random theories on JFK, the Illuminati and such stuff... then he asked me if I was a fellow conspiracy theorist, and I just grinned, flashed my Illuminati pin, and grinned. "Nope." ]:) Life is good sometimes... ]:)

Methinks Lynati liked the flowers I sent. :) Wish she'd release the pressure on my windpipe, though. ;)

Fire Storm: Dude, I'm up to... hmmm... I think it was sometime September 2000... or was it October? That strip is OLD news. But I think caffeine is slightly worse than sugar. ];)

Well, that's about it. *Snuggles with Lynati, as the fireplace slowly goes out.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 02:40:33 PM
IP: ti21a68-0323.dialup.online.no

Warpmind: <Ferrets on a caffeine high caused by IV Ultra Jolt would be rather... destructive, yes>
Try a pixie stick! :)
Project Pixie, according to Riff
http://sluggy.com/d/991114.html

Gside: <Actually, it's 240 megs, and it is daily.>
Ya gotta know someone that can change it, right?
Bump it up to 2gig a day, or better!

Since it's love day, I present the ACUTAL meaning of Valentines day! (The hyper-super-ultra-femanist version)
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/000221/21john.htm
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 02:15:44 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*Lynati rushes in, grinning maniacally. Deliberately ignoring all the random arguements, she glances around frantically, spots Warpmind, and tackles him onto the nearest cushy surface with a giant hug*

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU TAHNK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY"RE BEAUTIFUL!!! :D :D :D :D :D
*SMOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOCH*
awwww....."warm fuzzy feelings"!! *proceeds to hug Warps until he can't breathe*
heh...I wasn't able to even send your gift off until today because of a combinataion of procrastination and a broken office scale. should be there by the end of the week, though. :)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

croc hunter: heh heh heh... "A similar sighting was reported in southern Australia, were yet ANOTHER blue skinned gargoyle female was seen attempting to attack someone, this time while apparently screaming the phrase "I AM NOT SMURFETTE! I AM NOT SMURFETTE!!""

...anyway...

Everyone today gets a big smiley, and a hershey's kiss, regardless of arguements, beleifs, or hentai-seed planting issues.

*Snuggles with Warpmind in front of the fire place*
Lynati
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 01:28:55 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-52.rasserver.net

Marley??? MARLEY?????... geez.. the M key isn't THAT close to the B key.. my brain is messed.. well.. time to go to psych.. heh heh psychoactive drugs heh heh... *feels another epipheny forming and tries to run before it hits.
love,
lain
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:40:18 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

well you know, it's marely even noon and I have already had three epiphinies today... wow...
Wonder how much of this my brain can handle...

:P

love,
lain
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:38:18 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Todd: I must have meant someone else. Sorry. I wonder who it was who did give that definition, I better go back and look. :)

Mandi: <reads spoilers and freaks, then runs out>
Kit
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:54:39 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.143.dlls.grid.net

I whole believe the state of Texas is in a dimension separate from the rest of the country. Atleast weather wise. Cold and rainny one day, dry and humid the next. I guess we should get use to inter dimensional travel but man can it be annyoing.

That was random but it was all I could think about all morning.
On the good side of things my Graphics teacher only wants a hendred thumbnails by monday. (only?!) Son of a...
I'd like to say the magic jinxs words but if I do it will come true.
VAlentines Day- Hmm never really liked it even when I was dating. It's just one of those things that stores try to capitalize on and if you are in a relationship you can't hide from. "Oh you wanted something for Valentine's Day? Well, how about a car wash I think I can pull that off or an oil change?" Not romantic, but practical. And by now many of you know why I am single. Oh well.
Just an opinion and you know what that will get you.
Well I've got history so I better take my sketchbook because you know she will be talking.
Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:50:49 AM
IP: ac93ec88.ipt.aol.com

**Captain Picard walks in, spots the Tea Table of Peace and walks up, dropping into a chair and demanding, "Coke on ice!" he blinks, stands and slowly metamorphs into Hyperion, complete with blazing aura and sword.**
Sorry, always wanted to see that happen in a TNG episode.
So I was going to make some comment about the current "situation" here, but it seems to be resolved nicely so I'll reserve witty banter for later.
Which really leave me very little to say...dammit...
Kitainia> Thank you.<bows> <Preen> On occassion I get eloquent...<preen>
Whoever posted the link to the Ariana pic> Very nice. My complements to the artist.
And in the anime vein... for all you you with either a) money or b) lackluster ethics: snag a copy of the game Oni. Purple-haired ninja chick with big guns...hehehe...
*******
"Can you sign for a dozen shifty spies?"
"Hey, anyone here order any spies?"
"Nope"
"Those arn't for us...try the conspiricy theorist down the hall"

Hyperion - [hyperion@justicemail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:31:34 AM
IP: ba-124.adsl.stargate.net

Buffy> I found the ep amusing, mainly because I was watching it with my friend Ruth: when Spike was being rejected by Dru, Buffy, and Harmony, and complaining about them ganging up on him, Ruth shouted, "I'll take you!" I fell out of my chair laughing.

Also, I found some spoilers for the Feb. 27th episode, "The Body" .... and I CANNOT BELIEVE JOSS IS DOING THIS. I won't post the spoilers here for fear of being screamed at, but click my name to find out what the ep is about. Warning: if you don't like having major plot twists spoiled ahead of time, DON'T CLICK MY NAME.
Mandolin
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:05:21 AM
IP: 144.175.21.16

opps darn gremlins that should read drue not dure
ironwolf
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:45:00 AM
IP: host-209-215-8-148.cha.bellsouth.net

[walks in, holding something to his chest while smiling that infamous Totoro-sized smile of his!]

Greetings all! Happy Valentines Day!

Just to share some of the good things that have happened in the past day or so, I recently learned my girlfriend Heather just got accepted to a new job at a local Italian eatery (It's a bit more upscale than a regular restaraunt). In part to celebrate, we went off to the Florida St. Fair yesterday and had a blast together... we saw the exibits, munched on fair food (corndogs & funnel cake, YUM!) and also went to terrorize the rabbits and poultry in the Livestock exhibit. <GRINS!>

We also gave each other an early V-Day gift that morning: Heather got a picture of Meowth & Jigglypuff (our two favorites) cuddling, which was drawn by yours-truly. I got - and it was a welcome surprise - a copy of Christine's "Dark of The Elvenwood"! <BIG GRIN!> JOY!!! And i'm nearly half-way finished with it, too! ^_^

Heather's coming over today so I can cook a special V-Day lunch for her. We can't do a dinner tonight, since she has to go to a ceramics class in the evening, so we're going to spend as muc time this afternoon as we can together. ^_^

Now a few quick replies:

TGS Story - It had it's moments, but I'm in concurance with everyone else. Kudos though to Don! Great work, Bro!

Doug/Kit - You're welcome! What did you two think of the Heromachine renders of Big Jake and Ace? (One day, they will return to the RP!)

Christine - As mentioned above (and last night) I'm enjoying your second book! Also loved your Sabledrake story: fantastic work! Hope to see how this might fit in with the Swordlore books down the road. ^_^

Wish I could comment on Buffy or Angel, but neither of those shows really appeal to me... Thought the original movie of Buffy was cool, but the shows just seem like so much fluff to me.

Anyway, got to go for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:40:46 AM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

** Kirshanta circles the CR, hoping for a spot at the Table of Peace. Both Pistoff and Sevarius wave her down to a seat between them. Kirshanta lands and walks over to the table, looking sheepish ***

Ok. I have been told that I am impulsive and proud. Guilty on both counts I'm afraid ** Smiles as everyone in the CR goes "NO!" in mock surprise **

I spent all of last evening being a total bore and a half because I felt so bad about what happened in here. I didn't sleep very well either. And I kept wondering why. Here's the answer I figured out:

When I first landed in here, I didn't know or care about anyone in here. ALl I wanted was to talk about TGS. After awhile, I grew attached to some of you (which explains but does not excuse my behaviour yesterday).

I AM HEREBY SORRY TO ANYONE I OFFENDED OR SEEMED TO TAKE PITY ON OR INCLUDED IN MY SKITS - FROM NOW ON ITS TGS ONLY FOR ME (and a little Patrick on the side...)

Kaioto > Deal. Although you may want to give out your warnings in private next time as opposed to a public stoning. I mean, thats why everyone has their email next to their names right??

Kit > Ok. No more puppeteering. Please forgive my feeble attempt at trying to difuse a tense situation with humor. Oh and by the way, I DID click on Firestorm's link - and could not access it. That's probably why I felt left out - though that does not mean that I wanted you to stop posting the numbers - just explain what they were.
Thanks for the detail/subtility vote of confidence...

Ed > Actually, these debates of ours ARE quite stimulating. Having an authority on the subject would cut down on our wonderful banter. You're right - its much better this way. And don't worry - we all got stuff wrong at least once - in some cases more than once.

Greg Xanatos > Anger over nothing. You're right I suppose. After a good night of non-sleep, I realize that I probably over-reacted to a few things. But I just get that way when someone calls me MISSY...

Pistoff, Sevarius Jr > Thanx for the support - although I hope you don't get kicked out for it. What probably would have made everyone calm down would have a been a PRIVATE warning - to our own personal emails instead of being dragged into the public square, stipped, flogged and stonned. But hey, all is forgiven...

Patrick > Don't worry. We'll take it nice and easy.
P.S. Check out the animal crackers scene in Armagedon...
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:40:31 AM
IP: g67-133.citenet.net

Hey guy I am back. Caught up on my reading to so I am up to date on the saga. (Ironwolf is suddenly knock forward as the cr door is thrust open buy a small purplish gray dragon pulling a small car) Lockheed what the heck are you doing? (The small dragon sticks out his tongue at Ironwolf and pulls the cart into the room and begins to take out several vases filled with roses and sets them on a nearby table Ironwolf walks over looking puzzled) What are you? Oh yea being single I almost forgot! Happy Valentines every one! Hmm I guess that would explain the buffy episode :0) Speaking of buffy I want to throw something out to room about spike.
1 vampires are demons. It has stated this in the buffy universe
2 demons can’t love unless they have a soul
3 dure is well a special vampire and well even when spike was evil a major demon remarked that spike stunk of humanity because of his love for dure While evil angel did not have a single spark of humanity left
4 Could spike have his soul? He looks like he is building an honest relationship with Dawn. Just a thought I mean I like spike and well who is to say dure didn’t do something funky when she made him?

Hmm that might be a nice way to spend valentines me spike 4 bottles of tequila sitting at a table bemoaning the evils of women. (Lockheed looks up at Ironwolf looks at the vase covered table and waddles over to Ironwolf inflates his chest opens his month just to have it clamped shut by Ironwolf’s hand. Lockheed’s eyes bulge out and a look of discomfort crosses his face. He swallows painfully and rolls his eyes up at Ironwolf with a disgusted look on his face). Sigh alright Lockheed you can have your fun, but later. Well guys gotta go enjoy the flowers and I hope everyone has a happy Valentines Day. Lockheed say so too (with that Ironwolf walks out of the cr with his hand still firmly griped around the baby dragon’s mouth)


ironwolf
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:36:08 AM
IP: host-209-215-8-148.cha.bellsouth.net

*walks in, in a state of semi-shock, clutching a bouqet to her chest, still in her pajamas (or what is equivelent to pajamas, baggy sweats and a wife beater shirt), her hair still mussed up from sleep*

He... Aaron sent me roses. It's Valentine's Day.... and I have roses.... FTD woke me up with... roses.........

*grins widely and happily before sliding down one of the CR's walls, roses in arms as she falls back asleep*


happy V-day.
Shinigami - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:58:30 AM
IP: ac86a5da.ipt.aol.com

I posted this last week- Evil in my opnion is doing bad for it's own sake and not for a twisted or otherwise justifiable to person him or herself reason. Dr. Evil, General Chaotica and Empeperor Moo are evil
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Token sane guy
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:58:25 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-118.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Its Valentines Day..So ::Begins to Glomp the guys. Glomps Winterwolf,Sevarius Jr,Pissy,Warpmind,Wilek,Gunjack,Todd,the Daniels,Robby,Coyote,Aaron,Greg,and Kaito...

I'd Glomp Doug but he has Kit Glomping him all the time

Glomping=when in an Anime a female hugs the guy she cares about by throwing her body onto him
for example Relena glomps Heero and Ryoko Glomps Tenchi

SPOILERS for TGS, Buffy, and Angel..........................
TGS, It was so-so for me.OLoved Ariana's fighting style and I am curious about the big cheese that Reika was talking too

Buffy, Poor Spike He really is into Buffy and I think Buffy needs to come of her high horse to just consider the possibility. YES Something Blue should have been brought up. I thought it was Funny about Xander obsessing over Dawns crush and the bits with Dru and Harmony were great.
I wonder if Spike actually did feel a lot of pain when he feed, but didnt want to show Dru or if she used her powers so that he would feed.

Angel,Excellent development on Gunn. I wondered if his old friend though he went soft since joinging with Cordy and Wesley as well. Good to see Anne's shelter and I like the connection between her and Gun. The zombie cops were cool and I was reminded ofnight of the living dead at the end.
I thought Cordy was a bit Beeeatchy in the confrontation with her and Angel ,but I think her attitude was justifide. Would she still be like that if she knew that angel was the one who stopped the cops...or if she also knew that he prevented the apopcalypse?
Todd>>>I too wonder about the eye
SPOILERS END................................................

Kit>>>Actually I like kity's ditsyness.It shows you can be skilled in science and math without coming off like some sort of Washu

::Heads back to the pace table for another round of Fish::
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 09:19:24 AM
IP: user-37kapgl.dialup.mindspring.com

Kit> While I did see Spike's change coming a mile away, I was still kind of hoping that Joss would throw a curve-ball at us. The sad thing is, Spike and Dru would have worked again, she seemed quite willing to help free him from the F-CKIN chip. I liked Spike and Dru together. Spike and Buffy would not work, we've seen evidence of that in "Something Blue" among other episodes.

Angel on the other hand had a good episode. I'll comment on it a little later though.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:57:00 AM
IP: dialin-632-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

KIT - Um, when did I say something about schizophrenia? I honestly don't recall mentioning it before now. (Or maybe this is a different Todd that you're talking about).

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

I rather liked both episodes. I've got to admit, Spike is definitely getting creepy about his obsession with Buffy. (I particularly got a chuckle out of the bit where when Buffy pushed him away, he collided with the shrine that he had made to her; very appropriate, I couldn't help but think). I wonder if he's going to indeed be able to override that computer chip, as Drusilla claimed he could.

The "zombie cops" in "Angel" were pretty good antagonists (I definitely sat up when the decapitated cop's head was still reading people their rights even after becoming just a head). I thought that it was particularly interesting to see the reason for them: the police chief in charge of them actually saw them as the best answer to the high crime rate in the area, and the downside of them being gone is that now the place will be safe for criminals again. Cordelia's scene with Angel at the end was a very good one. (I can't help wondering, though, whether they'll ever solve the "eye in the back of the head" problem - even if it's probably a minor issue compared to the other things going on in LA at the time).

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 07:28:29 AM
IP: 216.87.46.26.dialup-stl.primary.net

*Warpmind enters, looking strangely concerned.*
I really don't believe I'm largely affected by computer games... I think I should try to run more straightbacked... I just realized that I run in the exact style of the Deus Ex folks... :| (And I still don't have my augs...)

Fire Storm: Oh, those comics are hilarious. They qualify as highly graphic novels. ];) And the humor is priceless - how do you respond when someone holds a sword to your throat and says "Move and you die. Now beat it!"? One suggestion might be "Um... there's a logical inconsistency between those two statements that..." ]:)

Dreamie: No speculations, please. It wasn't at all like *that*. ];)

Wilek: You just bombed the tentacles? But... James is in the pit... uh-oh... MEDIC!!!

SJ: There's a debate on Hentai Tentacles going on and you're talking about PLANTING THE FIRST SEED? AGH! NOW THAT IMAGE IS STUCK IN MY MIND! THE PAIIIIIINNNNN!!! ];)

Kit: Ferrets on a caffeine high caused by IV Ultra Jolt would be rather... destructive, yes. ];) And that sword... remember: any enchantment might be dangerous to both the wielder and the proverbial chopping block. ;)

And, with the risk of winding up on the business end of another flareup of the most recent aggression bit, here's my HeroMachine character:
Super-HeroBlasterMale*Warpmind de InzanE*Skin:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:8,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:2,0,30,60,0,90,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:2,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:12,0,0,0,50,80,100,0,0,0,50,80,100;Hair:7,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,30,0,50,80,100;Mask:18,75,0,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Helmet:11,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:5,0,20,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:2,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Insignia:21,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:5,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Leggings:6,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:5,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,10,70,90,0,100;Footwear:11,0,0,0,77,99,100,0,30,60,0,90,100;Coat:13,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:4,0,50,0,80,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:28,0,0,0,0,75,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Well, that about concludes my post... See y'all later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 05:08:02 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

Kit - Incidentaly, I'm opposed to HTs. Jun-*Brandishes his blue tentacle*-is chaste, and has nothing to do with those. As for the pit, I've been waiting for James to leave so I could Willie Peter the whole nest... *A jet of white-hot heat errupts from the mouth of the pit and burns through the ceiling* ...but that's already been taken care of. Geez, Wilek, think you used enough peewees?

In other news, two of the four crises have been resolved, and the third may be receding. Things are looking up. 8 )
Gunjack "Decomposing Composer" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 04:52:48 AM
IP: 216-146-184-217.bwn.net

And now Part 2!!

Mary: It's very easy to sympathize with that kind of attitude. <grin> Sorry about Jason blowing up at you, I guess he was never really your friend. :( Get your chin up now. You'll find a real friend someday, I'm certain of it. And when you do, you'll be very glad you did. To feel better now, I agree with Doug that you should take Kaioto's advice and think more about yourself and what you want out of life than what other people want you to be. If you fulfill your own expectations, you'll develop self-confidence and feel a lot better, trust me. You already seem pretty much on the road to getting that confidence you need- you're very normal too, I think, for someone with Ausperger's Syndrome. Good luck, and remember, if people still seem to hate and want to avoid you even when you are confident in yourself and cool, it's probably because they're just jealous. <grin>

Stephen: Thanks for the house congrats and you're welcome for the eye ones. I too hope that your cornea can be fully fixed someday soon. That Elisa Maza does indeed look better. :)

Gunjack Valentine: Best of luck with that revenge, I hope you're right about your ACT score. Glad we agree about McConaghey. :) Yes, I do want to know about Doug's bachelor party, believe it or not. But if you want to surprise him, I am willing to settle for a complete script of everything that happened afterwards. :) Schizophrenic- clinically it's someone who sees people as objects, like Todd said. It especially counts for those who view people as objects to be selfishly manipulated and tormented for their own pleasure. That's Jackal all over.

Robby: Hope some miracles come into your life soon, it sounds like you need some. Either that or better time management. <grin> I agree about exact remakes, Hollywood should not waste time making those when so many good original stories are out there waiting to be given form.

NukesGoBoom: Welcome!! Glad you seem to enjoy this place so much already, I hope it continues to meet your expectations. :)

Mary: You're very right about significant others. <grins> I should have guessed your mood was due to something like that. Valentine's Day is one of my favorite holidays too. Hope you soon get the snuggle buddy you want. :) And good luck figuring out that crush! I hope you find who it is and make them fess up. :) I too enjoy the comic Zits most of the time (I don't like RichandAmy either, Jeremy and Sarah are more the kind of relationship I'd want, but without her frequent psycho moods). Best of luck with the awards, congrats in advance on any you win!

DPH: My high school diploma is in Doug's underwear and sock drawer under all the clothes. He keeps his in my underwear and sock drawer. Interesting, isn't it? :)

Winterwolf: Best of luck with the paperwork overload, may it soon end. Hope Shadowrider gets that letter and is able to come back soon, I'm looking forward to his questions. Doug and I are glad to have each other too. :)

SOROW: Condolences on the cake mishap. I suggest you bake a similar cake yourself and give it to your friend to make up. Unless there are no hard feelings, in which case that shouldn't be necessary. :) I'm not surprised your friends all laughed at the experience. Hopefully one day you will be able to look back and do the same. <grin>

Spacebabie: Congrats on the healed hamstring, hope your rash soon goes away too. You'll have to share with me your recipe for chocolate gargs.

Calliope: <Girls-Night-Out> I find it necessary to have that at least twice a month. Whether my girlfriends and my schedule can accommodate it or not. <grin> Hope yours are as fun as mine usually are.

Kirshanta: <sighs> I too miss the wonderful details, amazing subtlety, and so on that seem to be missing from so many TGS episodes this season. :( I hope you're not right about them making it necessary to create short stories that could be actual episodes of the show. TGS is fanfiction, not Gargoyles eps, so it shouldn't be forced to be like them IMO. I didn't appreciate the parody characterization this week either now that you mention it. :(

Tim: The only good thing I know of in relation to Eminem is the RP bit I did a while back with Asil crashing one of his concerts. <grimace> As for Elton John, I like his music, but I dislike the man in the extreme. That duet is yet another reason I'm boycotting the Academy Awards this year.

Mandi: <moment of silence for Traci Spengler> I too never knew this person, nor had I even heard of her before today. But like you I mourn and will miss her. The people who say the Internet depersonalizes and ruins human communications are very wrong indeed. :)

Coyote: I thought all Gargoyles stories were supposed to fit together into a huge continuity, that's part of what makes them so fun. Maybe this week's ep not doing that was what was wrong with it. :(

The Klukkers: I too dislike these guys immensely. But then again I also dislike all racists immensely no matter the color of their skin. Yeah, we all have civil rights to believe whatever we want and voice that belief, but that doesn't mean we all have to like some of the beliefs that are out there. And anybody who can't see that we're all the same species no matter what we look like needs a serious attitude adjustment in my book. That's all I'm going to say about that.

Kaioto: Your real name is Greg! Another cool guy with that name. :) Thanks, btw, for stepping in and stopping the flame war before it really got started. Again, I didn't mean to start it, I just got mad. And when I get mad, people generally don't like it. I'll let a moderator step in next time if you want, but I generally like standing up for myself a lot better. It's easier too. :) In any case, I'm glad the conflict's over now. When James apologizes to me and apologizes for his IMO revolting tentacle bits (which I held my tongue about with great hardship), I will apologize to him for the insult. BUT NOT BEFORE!!! :)

Ed: Good reasons for the shortness of TGS stories this season. I feel it necessary to mention though, that I have never been put off by long stories, provided they're worth the time it takes the time to read them and don't waste vast amounts of pages repeating the same things over and over and not really developing the characters at all (Steve Pantovich, if you're lurking, this means you!!). I agree with Kirshanta about the points I mentioned to her earlier, but you're also right that a little more focus this season is a very good idea. I hope it fully reveals itself soon. I regret to say I have not yet seen it, though Transitions did come pretty close. :)

Lain: Very good idea for the flame war, I for one intend to take advantage of it. :) Thanks for helping the situation, and for the good bit on anger too.

GXB: <nods> You're right, the whole almost-flame war was nonsense. Thank you so much for saving me the trouble of pointing that out. <worst Buffy ever> Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. Maybe you just didn't see Spike's change in attitude coming from a mile away. I did, and thus, like it or not, I am determined to enjoy whatever development it creates.

Todd: You're sane? Drat, we gotta fix that! Then again, maybe we do need an exception to prove the rule in here. You can qualify for that. :)

Daphne: You can always go stag to the prom if you feel that way about it. I went stag. So did Doug. (We like to think we were with each other in spirit. :) You get to dance with more people that way, so I consider it more fun. Good luck finding a date if you still feel you need one, and to your friends in their romances too.

Pistoff: It was mainly because of bad memories of what happened with that certain someone and erotica that I didn't lash out at James and Gunjack about the tentacles. I may not like James very much as a person, but I like what flame wars turn this CR into even less. I like Gunjack as a person too, except for that attitude about tentacles. <shivers> I'm not surprised you find all the recent events amusing. <half-grin>

Firestorm, GXB: <breaks out laughing at Demona and Crocodile Hunter bits and is unable to stop for a very long time>

Wilek: Your bits on the tentacles I could somehow tolerate- you made them amusing. I don't know how, but you did. You seem to do that with a lot of gross weird horrifying things, I wonder how you accomplish it. <grin>

Christine: Condolences on the rejections, I'm surprised about them though. Your GURPS work in the past has always looked so good! :( Best of luck with Archmage, I hope to enjoy that first chapter very soon. :) How went the reading of Black Roses?

SJ: Personally I think Buffy's gone crazed with her obsession to hate Spike, so much so that she failed to consider the consequences of them becoming enemies again. I too am no big fan of Dangerous Obsession Spike, but I can tolerate him. One thing I wonder about- how long is that banishment spell on Buffy's house for Spike gonna last? Let's not forget he's great friends with Joyce and Dawn, and they live there too. Wouldn't be the first time Dawn invited in a vampire without considering the consequences either. :) Glad you like my profanity usage, I may use some again someday. When the timing is right. <grin> BTW, you consider my mouth innocent? That's amazing, considering the life I've had. <shakes head>

Green Baron: Wherever you are out there, I hope you're doing fine. And that you're able to see and enjoy the Baldwin brothers' demise I wrote. More will be done with the Wise Guy Mob next week, I already have their next target in mind. <chuckles evilly> See you back in here soon, I hope.

And now, with another long two-part hopefully intelligent and not anger-inspiring post out of the way, I am going to bed. May everyone continue to have a good life, and things better have calmed down in here by the next time I come in. <sighs> I hope Doug has some good Valentine's gifts waiting for me in the morning. <looks over her shoulder at him with a knowing expression and Doug smiles back and nods. Kit then gets up and leaves the keyboard, not noticing the flower Doug surreptitiously wove into her hair while she was engrossed in posting. Grinning, Doug waves to the CR, leaves a Hate Mail Valentine Bomb for DC (Netscape froze up twice today), wishes everyone a Happy Valentine's Day and then walks out himself>

**BACK TO RP, WITH SOME BIGTIME HEROES**

"Oh, honey, that was incredible," a deep chuckling voice is whispering as the screen comes back on, showing a cluttered room full of weapons and posters of a very big blonde man in a red T-shirt, jeans, and dark glasses. The man in question is lying in the middle of the room on a big pile of money, smoking a cigar and sipping a martini as several women who look like they have way more beauty than brains rub his chest and arms. "Which one of us were you addressing, Duke honey?" a redhead asks. "Does it really matter?" Duke Nukem asks. The hero of numerous video games grins and stretches enthusiastically. "Just give me a couple minutes and I'll be ready again." The women frown and look at one another, one showing another a package of Viagra. The other babe gasps and waves it off. Duke grins and stands up, adjusting his pants and setting down his drink. He then cracks his knuckles and walks to the bathroom, ignoring the phone he passes that is off the hook. "You've got mail," his computer beeps. "Probably some classy babe," Duke chuckles, turning to head for the computer. "I wonder who. Better not be Camryn again, I don't like even thinking about being crushed." He taps a few keys and grimaces. "'Hello, Duke Nukem. You don't know me, but my best friend claims you owe her a favor because she helped you fight off an alien invasion a while back. You helped her figure out who she was, she said. You should remember her. Half-gargoyle, psychotic murderer, clone of a girl in Austin…' Hey, this sounds like Asil!" "Who's that, Duke?" a babe asks. "Someone I haven't had yet despite helping her out a lot," Duke answers gruffly. "Maybe this time I can win her over. Let's see, she and her friends have been kidnapped by a certain bunch of eco-brats and their so-called arch-nemeses, they're probably taking her to Hope Island…I never liked that dumb show anyway. Ted Turner, hmm…" "Duke, don't tell me you're leaving us again!" one of the women moans. "Your vacation." "Don't worry, baby," Duke laughs. "I'll be back soon, this is gonna be easy." He starts grabbing weapons off the walls and stuffing a huge duffel bag full of them, not forgetting his jetpack, scuba gear, and other accessories." "Did you need my help, sir?" a thin green alien in a red uniform asks, looking in the door. "Yes, Kiff!" Duke yells as the alien frowns. "Carry that!" The alien gasps as he catches the bag. "Come on," Duke waves at him. "Let's get going." "Can't you carry this?" Kiff asks. "My muscles are 'roid, remember?" Duke growls. "I can pick up big guns and fire them, sure. But carry them all the time? No way, Jose. That's why I have you." He turns to the women. "Later, babes. I'll bring one more back with me." With that, he turns and strolls out, a grumbling and struggling Kiff following. "Duke!" one of the women whines. "Come back!" "Who is this Asil?" another mutters. "What's she got that we haven't?" "Wings, I think," one reads from the e-mail. "And a tail, claws, red eyes. Oh yes, and a lot of really big guns." The women look at each other and grimace, then one smiles strangely, picks up the phone, and dials 1-800-ANTON-BS. Getting the idea through feminine telepathy, the other babes start looking at the many weapons Duke left behind. "Our honey's next homecoming is going to be interesting," one of them laughs. "To say the least!"

The display changes to the Mall of America's parking lot, where Kit is rushing for the Onslaught's trailer at great speed, her backpack discarded behind her. Senon Rodriguez sees her dash and growls an oath, turning to speed toward her. Arrows, shotgun pellets, and bullets whiz through the air suddenly, and he is forced to scramble in the other direction. "Hurry, Kit!" Shap yells. "Damn," Shauna is muttering beside him. "That jerk's moving too fast for me to put an arrow through his wheel spokes. That would be really cool." Kit hears Shap's call and mutters something about trying, then reaches the Onslaught and pauses only to catch her breath. Then she immediately jumps onto the Road Moccasin and speeds out, popping a wheelie as she heads straight for Senon. Passing within inches of him, she slaps him hard across the back of the neck. "So it's a race you want, eh, mutie bitch?!" the asshole manager roars, speeding after her. "Yep!" Kit grins back, doing fast circles and loops around him as he tries to catch her, spewing curses and insults all the way. Kit smiles evilly, ignoring them all as she leads Senon closer and closer to the huge Goroistro demon in the middle of the parking lot, which is still stomping around and throwing cars at the fleeing National Guardsmen, bellowing every few seconds. "So it's chicken you want, huh?" Senon laughs at Kit, glaring right at her as she avoids yet another of his charges. "I'm gonna…" He is cut off as the Goroistro's foot slams down, crushing both him and his bike. "You so did not see that coming," Kit grins, stopping her bike once she's out of range of the same fate. "Are you sure you're not your evil clone?!" Shap calls out to her. "When it comes to jerks like that, I am!" Kit replies, turning towards the huge robot warrior slowly walking towards the Goroistro, its footsteps muffled by the increasingly heavy snow. "Jammer!" Kit calls over the radio. "How are you going to fight that thing?" "We're trying to figure that out right now," Jammer answers from the Onslaught's transformed cab, turning to Orion. "Well, do you remember anything yet?" "Have I mentioned what a fine time this was to forget where you put your copy of Encyclopedia Demonica?" Lathrop asks the cleric, who does not respond. "Want me to help you pray for knowledge?" Tanith asks him. Orion shoots her a frown, then suddenly smiles and opens the glove compartment. "Never mind," he says, taking out a large book. "God just answered my own prayer. Now, let's see. Gacknar, Geryon, Gentlemen, Githyanki… Ah, here it is, Goroistro!" As he opens the book to the appropriate entry, a very large smirk on his face that no one seems to appreciate, the screen flickers and goes blank.

**CYBER-COOKIE TO ANYONE WHO CAN POINT OUT AT LEAST THREE OF THE MANY IN-JOKES IN THE PARAGRAPH FEATURING DUKE NUKEM. END RP**
Kitainia
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 02:48:31 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.129.dlls.grid.net

**RP HERE, TO SATISFY THE GREEN BARON**

The screen comes on, displaying a dark dour building in the middle of Hollywood. Meeting outside it are several tall men who are all reasonably good-looking and dressed in dark suits. "Hey bro," one says. "Hey Stephen," says another. "Hey Billy," says a third. "Long time." "Very long time, Adam," Billy Baldwin agrees. "Hey Alec, I heard about you and Kim. That's real bad what happened, man." "No problem," Alec Baldwin shrugs. "Let her lord it over someone else with her Oscar and higher salary, I don't care anymore. I just hope the people in this building have a better movie for me this time. I haven't gotten a really good part in years." "That makes four of us, man," Stephen sighs. "Hey, at least you guys have been getting parts," says Billy. "There isn't much chance we'll get any good scripts here," Adam shakes his head. "They don't call this the Bad Scriptwriters' Union HQ for nothing." "I just want some money, I don't care where it comes from," Alec shrugs. "Kim got everything in our divorce." "Well, there is one good thing about this place," Billy says. "At least we're sure to make the most money in whatever movies they give us. No really great actors or actresses ever have to come here." "Hold on, now!" Alec snaps. "I'm a good actor! At villainous roles anyway!" "And when was the last time you got one of those?" Stephen asks. "Mercury Rising, right? You had to take second place beside Bruce Willis! Just like I had to do with Kevin Costner back in…geez, how long ago was Backdraft?" "Guys, guys!" Billy suddenly gets their attention. "Look!" He points towards the door of the building, which is opening. A very glum-looking Rachael Leigh Cook is walking out, a script in her hand. "Hey, isn't that…" Stephen whispers. Billy nods. "Yep, Rachael Cook, the young actress who was all that last year according to everyone." "I see she didn't get in any great movies this year despite that praise," Adam comments. "Are you crazy?" Stephen hisses. "Didn't you see Get Carter? She was awesome in there! That film was the bomb!" "But Anti-Trust sucked!" Adam counters. "Only because that selfish loser Ryan Phillipe and that union-loving blowhard Tim Robbins were in it," Stephen replies. "You oughta talk to her, Alec," Billy tells his big brother. "Cheer her up. You need a new honey." "She's a little young," Alec whispers back. "Michael Douglas has no problem with that!" Stephen points out. "Point," Alec muses. "Well then, I suppose I can give it a try." Running a hand through his hair to immaculately arrange it, he sprays some Tommy Hilfiger fragrance under his arms and walks over to Rachael, who is frowning and looking at her watch as she glances up and down the street. "Expecting someone?" Alec asks, causing her to turn around. "Alec Baldwin," the young actress says. "Correct," Alec smiles. "And you're Rachael Leigh Cooke. What are you doing in this part of town?" "I was filing a major complaint," Rachael answers with a snarl. "Those putzes in that building there cut out a lot of good scenes in my latest movie, changed my part so I looked really bad. A bad actress in a bad role in an even worse film. There is no excuse for that kind of treatment. I had a dynamite character, a big subplot romance with Ryan Phillipe, a brilliant role, and they ruined it all for reasons they wouldn't even tell me. Contracts, they said." "Contracts," Alec nods. "Of course. Reese probably bribed them, doesn't want anybody else touching her hubby on screen." "Claire did it!" Rachael growls. "Maybe Claire paid them off then," Alec says. "It'd be just like her." "Maybe," Rachael throws up her hands. "At this point I don't care. I needed the money, so I did the part anyway. What I don't understand is they gave me a great part last time I came here. The movie wasn't that great, yeah, but my part…" "You know, Stallone has come here for every one of his films since Rocky IV," Alec comments. "You're right," Rachael nods. "I wonder why. Well, in any case, they didn't care that I protested, and they gave me a script that looks better, so I think I can forgive them. Maybe." "You don't look like you think that," Alec points out. "You look really mad." "The limo's late," Rachael explains herself, looking around again. Then she frowns. "Hold on just a second. Why are you talking to me? Your brothers are all over there. Don't you hardly ever see them?" "He's trying to land you, ditz!" Stephen yells with a laugh. "Yeah, don't you know he just broke up with Kim?" Adam laughs along, Billy frowning. "What?!" Rachael's mouth falls open. She spins and glares at Alec. "Is that true?" "Well, um…" Alec frowns. Before he can say more, he is knocked into the street by a hard slap to the face. "You dirty bastard!" Rachael snaps, delivering bad lines with an incredible display of emotion. "I ought to call the cops! No wonder Kim divorced you, you slimy…" Alec mutters an oath and gets up as she continues ranting, shaking a fist at his brothers as Stephen and Adam slap their knees and laugh at him. Suddenly there is a loud honking and out of nowhere a black van comes speeding down the road. Alec turns around at the honking and gasps upon seeing it, but does not move, caught like a deer in the headlights. "Ha ha!!" Robert de Niro grins as the van smacks into and flattens Alec. As his brothers' mouths fall open, the cargo door opens, revealing Joe Pesci and Robert Duvall with ready machine guns. "Eat hot lead, you lousy bums!" Pesci yells, opening fire. Duvall nods and pulls his own trigger. Stephen and Adam panic and try to run away, but are shot dead before they can get five feet. Billy dies where he stands, his mouth still wide open. "Okay, we got 'em, go!" Duvall yells at de Niro, who guns the van's motor and speeds off, bumping hard over Alec's corpse. "My God…" Rachael puts a hand to her mouth as she watches them leave, barely noticing her limo finally pulling up beside her. "Traffic, ma'am," the driver says. "Sorry. Uh, is something wrong?" "Follow that van!" Rachael orders, jumping into the backseat. "Okay," the driver replies, complying as the screen goes blank.

**END RP. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, GB, WHEREVER YOU ARE. HOPE WE GET YOUR LETTER SOON**

Hi everyone. Happy Valentine's Day!! Hope you all have a sweetie to cuddle up and spend time with this year. And if you don't, well, hope you get one soon! And that they remember what tomorrow is- I'm worried Doug isn't going to do that. :( To report on my life, everything is going smooth. And I mean that sarcastically. Whichever genius decided to schedule midterms the same week as Valentine's Day is currently on my death list. Studying for these tests is driving me nuts! :( At least work is great as usual, though I'm amazed at the low volume of romantic music CDs Tower is selling. Hopefully the boys are just going for other gifts. <fingers crossed> In wedding news, Doug's mom continues to bug us, but it's more about the furniture for our new house these days than the upcoming ceremony. She's coming to visit next week, maybe I can talk her into forgetting about meddling in the latter issue. Maybe pigs will fly too. <sigh> In other news, Stephanie weighs almost 200 pounds and is really angry about it, Jammer plans to propose to Tricia tomorrow night (we're pretty sure she'll say yes), Keith has completed his training period at his store and is now a full assistant manager, and Doug's job has stabilized again, thanks to two great new officers they started on the weekend and another lackluster one quitting. Once again, his stress is eased. And I bet it's temporary once again too. <grimaces> I can't they only pay him 7.50 an hour. My job is 8.75 an hour and it's way less stressful and potentially dangerous than his! <shrugs> Oh well, on to replies.

<starts to speak, then notices glum faces> Hey, what's going on? <Kaioto walks up and tells her> What? I almost started a flame war? I never meant to do that! Please understand, I was just standing up for myself against… <Kaioto cuts her off with a look and she sighs> Alright, I'm sorry. I never meant to get anyone angry. I just had my feelings hurt by someone who in my opinion was acting like a jerk for no good reason. I promise I'll say no more about the topic. Or post any more Hero Machine Stats, I was out of free time to make pictures anyway. :( On to replies.

Warpmind: UJCF was ferrets? Ferrets? <blinks> Well, I suppose they can be dangerous. They were in Kindergarten Cop. <shrugs> Good thing the Illuminati took care of their latest rampage. :) Thanks for the good news about them and the Probability Control Matrix. <Cabalistic history in the sword> I'd have to check on that. Hope Grandpa Ian told Mom or Dad before he died whether or not.

James: Most evil people are also mentally disturbed, you know. It's a historically proven fact. If you don't consider Hitler evil just because of your mental disturbance, I would like to know your definition of the term evil. I'd wager it's very different from mine.

Lain: <Night and Fog> That film gave me nightmares for weeks when I was eight. I don't think I'll ever forget it. Somehow, though, when I watched it again in ninth grade for school I was numb. Now that's scary. :( Apologies for the mix-up over the Politically Correct Good Book and thanks for the laughs from that great Canadian Army bit. L. Nice explanation also for your quarrel with God, condolences on the sufferings and I hope you are someday able to get all the issues straightened out. We're here to help, if it's needed. As for why such things happen, well, bad things must happen to make good things worth it, right? <sighs> Yeah, I know how that sounds. Best thing to do is just put them aside and live your life how you must. That's what I try to do, even with all the memories of past tragedies I have. Maybe it might work for you too.

Ed: I think we better drop the Margo debate, we've said all that needs to be said. You're very right that she's not going to give up her prejudices that easily. I think that obsession she has with the prejudice is not healthy, though. And I don't like how the only character development she seems to get is to make the prejudice deeper either. But I guess Gargoyles kinda needs a character like her, doesn't it? And if I ever want the development that should have happened a long time ago, all I need to do is call up some fics of Christine's. :)

DumlaoX: Thanks for all the Dreamcast info, I should have guessed the Sega games you mentioned were all on a Dreamcast cartridge. :) Keith's store's supplies of the console are very limited right now, it'll be some time before Doug and I get one. But we probably will get one eventually. And as for RPG Maker, we already have that game. We'll make a story off it once we have time, if that ever happens. <sigh> Hope you did great on those midterms and the LSAT. Congrats on not having to suffer from the blackouts, though I hope you're being nice to the millions without power and not gloating. :)

Kirshanta: You're not the only one who often wants to slap Margo. <grin> No hard feelings about your recent misunderstanding, but I wish you had bothered to look further down the page at Firestorm's link and see what the numbers were about (James should have done that too, IMO, instead of being selfish and snotty :( ). I also don't appreciate being used as a puppet in your skit, please don't do it again. :(

SOROW: <sighs> Well, I'd condolence you on the breakup, but when things happen that are for the best, one doesn't need condolences. :) Still, I'm sorry to hear it happened. Good that you're still best friends, though. Hopefully you'll soon find someone new if that's your desire, and they'll be just as nice and a lot more brave. :) Congrats on the great audition, hope you soon know how well it went. Don't let the anticipation drive you too crazy. <grin>

Daphne: Are you implying love is just sex, or that sex isn't worthy of celebration? <scratches head> You're entitled to your opinion, I guess, but I don't think Valentine's Day will ever be obsolete. :)

Daniel Johnson: <moment of silence> Condolences on the death of your mom's roommate. And it happened right in front of her too? Damn! I've led an interesting life so far and lost many people, but that is one thing I'm glad has never happened to me. I hope it never does. She, her family, and you and your mother are in my prayers.

Doug: Thanks for the poem. So many great memories. And if we just try, those things can still be fun, too. :)

GXB: I too hope Milosevic gets an awful punishment. It's exactly what he deserves. The new guy in charge of Yougoslavia, Kostunjica, is a great leader, or so the media makes it appear. :) I agree with you about the wall between church and state, Bush needs to turn his wrecking ball around. But then again, if the faith charity groups end up doing a good job helping people and don't mix it with proseltyzing like they should, I suppose I could change my mind. <shrugs> We'll wait and see.

Jannie: Thanks for posting those great Eagle Scout pics, I think your new digital camera is working out well. Congrats on the great ceremony too, your driving sounds like it's very much on par with Doug's when you're racing to grab something important. :) Good luck with the meningitis epidemic, I hope it soon blows over. Doug and I don't know when we'll be able to move into the house, we hope it's soon. Furniture's coming in next week for sure, hopefully our utilities will be all set up and turned on by then. <fingers crossed> We've been told the recent fog and rain has been delaying the construction of the subdivision wires and pipes for them. :( We also need to buy a washer and dryer, get some skirting, possibly a garage, and lots of other things. At least the property's real nice, with a veritable forest behind the house. :) I share your point of view about God, thanks for posting it. Also, thanks again for recommending Area 52, I thought it was great. :)

DPH: Hmm, sounds like you're joining some big secret organization. You're so vague about it. Hmm… :) Good luck getting in, once again, since you seem to want to so badly. I'm amazed it's taking so long. <I'm smarter than my immediate boss> That's a common complaint of many workers. It's also very true more often than we'd like. :(

SJ: Another Austin Powers film? With Sean Connery? Damn, has that man been hit on the head before The Avengers or what? When is he going to get back to good films? (And don't anybody say Austin Powers 3 is gonna be good. You'll never convince me of it after the horrible first film and even more appalling second.)

Hyperion: <smiles> Very good bit about life being worth it. I wish you posted here more often, you always seem to say such true and interesting things. :)

Richard: Um, yeah, Kobra may have had a point, but I for one would never want to turn myself into a dinosaur. Nor do I approve of an organization that considers it to be a problem to be an individual. Oh, and welcome to the CR. :)

Emmabu: You better use us as proof to Neely and Dominic! They sound like they have a good thing going and that should never go to waste. :) Condolences on the breakup with the girl you were seeing, glad you're still friends though. Good luck with the girl in Buenos Aires, whoever she is. :) Good luck with the new choir position also, and belated congrats on it. Thanks for the congrats to Doug and me on the house.

Jaden: Good luck with the training exercise, hope you get warm weather and come back soon.

**SPOILER WARNINGS**
Decent ending to the Batman Beyond two-parter this week. The big fight was kinda anti-climactic and Xander turned out to be a huge Serpentor ripoff, but at least we got some great Max development and fun bits. Kiri Tanaka had a superbly written final stand too. <grin> Nice plot and script on X-Men, I liked the Spyke and Wolverine development and laughed out loud at what happened to Rogue. I wish they'd made Kitty less ditzy, but the fight between her and Sabertooth was great (I never guessed her power would be useful in combat :). Zeta Project also had a good third episode, I enjoyed Zeta's development and was laughing out loud at the snoring joke. Bucky made a decent villain, but there could have been better writing to his conflict with the invention thief. Looking forward to hopefully getting some info on the terrorists Zeta was fighting when he got smart this Saturday, they're driving my curiosity genes nuts right now. <grin>

TGS was lousy again this week, I'm sorry to say. Too many cliches, no illustrations, a boring villain, and a script too full of illogical developments- I agree that the clan shouldn't have held back when their lives were on the line; Sata, the clones and Hudson should have been in on the last big fight; and no way Talon and Claw would get captured by robots with their electricity powers. This one needed much better writing, I was very disappointed with what we got. Even the title doesn't seem right. <grimaces> 4/10 stars, as many as I gave to Gladiator (which apparently is in the running for the most Oscars this year. What the hell is wrong with Hollywood? It better not win. <crosses fingers and prays on behalf of Almost Famous>). The plot was way too predictable once it got going, and I particularly didn't like that Thailog was mentioned but not used. He would have made such a better antagonist than Taro! :( The Demona and Goliath bits were fun, as were the Demona and Elisa ones, and there was good development on Lex seeing that his implants can be useful for more than getting on the Net literally, but that was about it. :( Hopefully we've now gotten the last bad TGS episode of the season out of the way. <crossing fingers on that too>

Excellent Buffy and Angel tonight once again. Spike was appropriately pitiful in the Buffy episode, and I was laughing out loud as often as I was rolling my eyes knowingly during his confrontations with Buffy. Great to see Drusilla and Harmony again too, they had some pretty good bits (Harmony as the Slayer wasn't as funny as it coulda been, but I liked her stance on threesomes). Xander also had more good lines and development, so did Joyce and Dawn, whose crush on Spike concerns me. It'll be interesting to see how it develops- I particularly liked how she spilled the beans to Buffy. Fun to see Ben outside the hospital for once too. Poor Spike at the end, I really feel sorry for him. But didn't he get the idea when Buffy said "You're beneath me?" <sigh> Maybe he really is hopeless- I don't know if I really like Spike that way, although I do applaud his development this season (he's way more of an interesting character than he was with Dru IMO). We'll probably find out for sure about Spike's obsession and whether he can get over it next week, hope to get better and more interesting developments. My big regret about this week's episode is nobody mentioned any events from Something Blue. Come on, the opportunities for references and in-jokes were rampant! <sigh> Great character development on Angel too. Nice to see Kate again, but her attitude was a bit too predictable and obvious for the ep. I liked the Voodoo Captain as a villain, though not the implications of the results of his actions. Good commentary on police brutality in the ep, and I liked how it related to the changes in Angel. Also enjoyed the development on Cordy, Wesley, and Gunn- it's been needed. Gunn and Jackson, Wesley's trying to talk down the zombie cop, and Cordy's confrontation with Angel at the end made for especially great emotion and scenes. Having the conflict center around Anne's shelter was a good touch too, it really brought the conflict home and got the blood pumping. :) I honestly don't see any way this one could have been better, but I'm sure they'll top it with Darla's return next week. I am looking real forward to that. :)
**END SPOILERS, PART 1**
Kitainia
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 02:46:56 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.129.dlls.grid.net

Gunjack> <<I'm a busy little bee>>: K. Just seeing how much milage I could get out of this.

Wilek> A post. Is it time to rotate my hard drive already?
<<I'll be sure to, if I ever find it>>: www.crfh.net
<<OMG, I've become Traveler>>: So, because nature abhors a vacuum, Gunjack's now becoming you?
<<What is with the "wang" thing?>>: It is a cultural phenomenon started by Gabe and Tycho at Penny Arcade. Also, it's just fun to say. I should probably get a "Got Wang \|/" shirt. That \|/ was supposed to be a downward pointing arrow.
<<I'm thinking Zoe from Sluggy Freelance>>: Good answer. I never knew she was a succubus.
<<Three guesses who the human guy reminds me of>>: Riff. But Aaron looks better as a girl.
<<Do straight chicks react this way to M/M couples?>>: Well, there is that whole bishonen, yaoi thing going on over in the anime area. I'm nigh positive it's mostly supported by female efforts.
<<Sequel? Ooh>>: Yup, reinventing comics. Focuses mostly on how to get better public reception of comics in the public eye, teh business of comics, and the effects of the net on comics.
<<If I ever find it, I'll be sure to check it out>>: www.bobandgeorge.com
<<Dare I ask what doujinshi is?>>: Doujinshi by itself is harmless. It's just fan produced manga. However, the doujinshi that gets copied around and translated on the net the most tends to be of the hentai variety. I find it interesting that the porn industry is essentially the frontrunner in video compression and online distribution technologies.
<<Women are excellent intellectual company, but I get the feeling that your statement is hormonally motivated>>: True, but I've had a good enough amount of the former, and I do need some way to work off the hormones.
<<I have automatons to do it for me>>: But it's always nice to have some minor ceremony. Let them know you care about the little people.
<<In SMB2J (known here as The Lost Levels), there is a green mushroom that kills you>>: Ah. But isn't the point of that one that it blends with the 1ups, except for the skulls (if I remember)?
<<As if art and engineering could not coexist>>: But it's a different kind of art. An art, not of how it looks, but of how it behaves.
<<Go play Final Fantasy 9>>: Oh, I will. Eventually. One of my roomies has a copy here, but I think I'll hold off for the PC version.
<<I think you'd like Lindblum, the City of Engineers>>: I have no doubts. And I always root for the Cids.
<<Is there a programme I've missed>>: Nope, webcomic ( www.narbonic.com ).
<<TGS does have a blue lady garg, by the name of Etolie>>: In modern clothing? With the filename amee.jpeg? Note: I don't remember the name exactly, but I feel confident it was similar.
<<How does one decide what team to be a fan of?>>: I mostly don't care, but default to geography if necessary.
<<<leaps into the nearest lap, whosever's that is> DAHLING!>>: Mon petit chou!

Gunjack> May your situations improve.

Fire Storm> <<Is that a daily or weekly limit?>>: Actually, it's 240 megs, and it is daily. I went over once, and it wasn't pretty. But I did just get exceed, so I can use eden like an xterm.
<<I mean, it's not like a CD costs $100!>>: Plus shipping, bu you're right, they're light.
<<Hmm... point taken>>: Evil laugh redux.

Dreamie> <<go light on the flour for extra stickiness>>: Ah, yes, you wouldn't want any of the instruments falling off, would you?

Gunjack> <<Wilek, Gside, Warps and I all had a hand in introducing them to the CR>>: I'm pretty sure I was in charge of tentacle lore.

Daniel Johnson> <<Norm is the ma>>: Oh heck yeah. he has a laser guided radial arm saw. And every joint he does (that we see) fits perfectly. He's pretty much a hero to the males of my family.

Need sleep. Busy week approaching.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 02:42:29 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

This post is to see how far things can go before Robby steps in!

Well, I can see by looking at my calendar that the CR has gone all of maybe one week since the last debate / fight, so it's time for another one!

If I had to label this fight with some sort of a title, I'd steal one from Shakespeare. "Much Ado About Nothing". People getting pissed off (that's not a play on words, Fred ;) because people are posting numbers in the CR. Jesus Christ. This is NOT the best flame war....pseudo flame war, whatever....I've ever watched.

Chronology: James doesn't like Kit posting numbers.
Kit, in a rare display of anger, calls James a prick. Subsequently, I fall out of my chair laughing, because I don't think I've ever heard Kit talk like that before.
Kirshanta sort of agrees with James. She doesn't like the numbas.
Kaioto tries to stop something before it starts. I think that was the meaning of the post.
Kirshanta calls him high and mighty.
Kaioto says to stop moralizing.
A whole bunch of people chime in.
I open my big fat mouth.

I have just 2 things to say:
1. Please, when you have a flame war again, make it a more interesting topic. Hitler, God, the nature of good vs. evil, politics, THESE are what make a good flame war.
2. Here's a surprising turn of events, wink wink--I agree with Pistoff here. What the hell was that "warning that was not a warning"? Sweet Baby Jesus, at that point things weren't even hot. No one was really upset, until AFTER that "warning but not a warning". And I have to think back to what Pistoff said previously in the CR, about people attacking stuff like politics (I can relate, cause I was doing most of the stuff he was talking about). Hell, I've said some horrible things about people's politics. I never got a warning. No one said a word to me. Kirshanta gets a little ruffled cause Kit's posting numbers, and she gets a lecture.

Oh well, this is just one of those things that baffle me. Look at me, I'm all confused. I got Greg saying that I make him think when I post, and if my words inspire anyone to think instead of just let their minds slowly vegetate into atrophy, then I'm doing something wrong! ;p

Kit: I'm not being a smartass here, I'm just being honest--please use more profanity more often. It's wonderfully amusing coming out of that innocent little mouth. ;)

Hentai Tentacles: I think I first planted the seed of this in here. Damn you, Harry Potter and the Naughty Hentai Tentacles! DAMN YOU!!!

The Klan: Yeah yeah, free speech, blah blah blah. I agree with everything that's been said in defense of the Klan's civil rights. Also, the dark and evil and irrational part of me finds a mass beating of clan members ridiculously satisfying. Since others have been mentioning Preacher, I'd love to see a real life Jesse Custer apply the testicular claw to a few klansmen.

lain: Honestly, I commend you for not believing in evil after all you've gone through. I sure don't feel that way. But, I kinda admire you for being to look beyond all the pain into the bright side of things.

***BUFFY SPOILERS***
Well, I liked the show tonight. It wasn't the best episode that I've ever seen, and it had several glaring flaws, but I was entertained. I LIKE that Spike ditched Dru for Buffy. At least his character is growing and changing, but I don't know if the direction they're taking him in will work (I like Unrequited Love Spike, not Dangerous Obsession Spike).

But, like I said, a few glaring flaws. My biggest one--Buffy blowing off Spike. Okay, she hates him, I can deal. But, I think we can figure out by the way he almost killed her, that he wasn't too happy. Here's the thing--WHY ON EARTH would she want to make an enemy out of him again? Forget the fighting and the scheming he does. HE KNOWS DAWN IS THE KEY. If she really "dumps" him, really pisses him off to the breaking point, how hard would it be for him to find Glory and say "The kid's the Key"? Obviously, Buffy didn't think about that.
***END SPOILERS***
Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:28:14 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Fire Storm:
<<Um... Hmm... You dropped acid while watching Monty Python, followed by channel surfing between a penguin documentary and the ballet.>> Dude! How did you guess! But, you forgot about "The New Yankee Workshop." Norm is the man.
Actually, I just got a two DVD set of Flying Circus episodes and have been overdosing. "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"

*In best Tom Kean voice*
Steve Irwin and Demona: perfect together.

Yes, I am insane (but, not as much as lain); so what's your point?

Anyone got any lingonberries?
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:00:32 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Jannie > congrats to your boy! You must be very proud of him!

Diploma > I know where mine is, only because the agency decided in a panic that taking our words for it wasn't enough and demanded photocopy proof that we'd all graduated. Because goodness knows I needed those five years of schooling to listen to Tod-the-Possessed rant last night for two hours with the most obscene and vile language I'd ever heard, and to let the incontinents into the laundry room ... higher learning, lemme tell ya! (sorry, rough night, makes one bitchy -- or bitchier as the case may be <g>).

Updates > work on Archmage continues. Really more of a rewrite than a revision by now, but I hope to have a first chapter posted soon. Took a short break to do up three submissions for a new GURPS book, so's to get more rejection slips for my collection and thereby keep my New Year's resolution.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:47:42 PM
IP: 23-137.075.popsite.net

Daniel Johnson: <What does all this mean?>
Um... Hmm... You dropped acid while watching Monty Python, followed by channel surfing between a penguin documentary and the ballet.


"Garg hunter" documentary:

...And in a related story, the famous "Crocodile Hunter" was found dead today, in three seperate counties. When police reviewed the tape in the video camera, which was still recording when the police arrived at the scene, a blue gargoyle was seen ripping out various bodily organs from the TV star while she was screaming "STOP CALLING ME A SHEILA!"!
News reporter #2: Ouch! That must of hurt! But not as much as the play of the day!...
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:44:30 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Patrick> Yes, that would be fun...

"This Sheila is quite vicious, she hates people, they've mistreated her all her life, but we love her anyway, and she'll be happy where we take her."
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:29:41 PM
IP: dialin-1626-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Reminder to all artists: the last day to submit entries for Gathering 2001 mini-poster contest is tomorrow. E-mail entries to "artshow2001@hotmail.com", and see the Gathering web site (click my name) for more info.

Kirshanta > :: grins and blushes :: All I ask is that you be gentle with me. >:)

Pistoff > Welcome back!

:: WARNING - MILD TGS SPOILERS ::

TGS Demona as "a fanged Jim Carrey" > And you thought Jim Carrey could chew the scenery... :P Maybe she's just finally learning how to use humor to diffuse tension. It's better to be able to laugh a bit to let off steam rather than let it build up until you explode.

Eeeny meeny miney moe, catch a gargoyle by the toe, if he hollers, let 'em go... I agree totally with the folks who are saying the "catch a live gargoyle" plot is getting stale. Maybe what's needed is a change of pace... like maybe an antagonist who just wants to study them in their natural habitat. Like that Croc Hunter guy... "That one there's the female, and crikey, she looks agitated! Look how those eyes glow, mate... I'm gonna back off and leave this one be."

:: END MILD SPOILERS ::
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:25:31 PM
IP: ac87c3ed.ipt.aol.com

Gunjack> <<Wilek, Gside, Warps and I all had a hand in introducing them to the CR>> Yehh...I tried my best to slaughter the things, but I've failed so far. O_o Ah well, there's always this last resort: [Wilek takes a bandolier full of nuclear grenades, pulls the pin of one of them, and tosses the whole thing in the pit.] This will be fun. >8)
Wilek
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:17:40 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

ued = used (tosses typo demon in garbage)
James Birdsong
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:08:58 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-155.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Valentine> It's okay. You gave me permission to jump into pit and if you think I over-ued that responsibility I will kindly never refer to any such thing again. If push comes to shove I could easier leave comment room and never come back but I doubt things are that serious yet
James Birdsong
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:08:21 PM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-155.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

*** BUFFY SPOILERS ***

I must say one thing, I am extremely disappointed with this episode. I read that Spike would get back together with Drusilla and return to LA with her. The info I read was false. Now time for me to say something that I feel needs to be said.

I hate what they're doing with Spike right now, I completely hate it. Spike being in love with Buffy is unnatural, and makes no sense what so ever. I don't get it, I never got it. Spike's true love is Drusilla, and I hope Joss realizes that, because this is a complete bastardization. Buffy described this better than I ever could.

Now I was probably disappointed due to my hopes and anticipations, but I'm ready to rank this as the worst episode of the season. I'm giving it a 2 out of 10.

SPIKE & DRU FOREVER!!!

*** End buffy Spoilers ***
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:57:01 PM
IP: dialin-1626-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Pisstoff - BTW, responsibility for the tentacles is MINE, not James'. Wilek, Gside, Warps and I all had a hand in introducing them to the CR, and I think I was one of the first to cement them in RP (I used them to bump off Clinton). I can't speak for the others, but I know *I* refered to them in a far more offensive way than James has. Put blame where blame is due.
James - For future reference, I'm not trying to treat you like an NPC; I'm merely trying to point out that Pisstoff might be taking aim at the wrong target.
...
...
...
...My life is a crisis.
Gunjack "Zombie Warrior" Valentine
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:56:37 PM
IP: 216-146-184-217.bwn.net

Through one of the Comment Room's many doors, a desk lumbers. It is a beautiful old desk made of mahogany and polished to a high luster. Intricate designs of lingonberries adorn its sides. A few papers are strewn haphazardly upon its top. The desk shudders to a stop in the middle of the room. It is followed by a Louis XV chair with fuchsia upholstery. Sitting in the chair is a distinguished looking gentleman wearing a chicken suit. As the chair comes to a stop at the desk, the man in the chicken suit lays his folded hands upon the glossy surface and says, "And now for something completely different."

The desk, chair, and man promptly explode, raining Chocolate Kisses about the room. Nine penguins waddle through the above mentioned door and begin to eat the Kisses. There is nothing particularly unusual about these penguins; they are merely typical Emperor peguins that are wearing top hats and pink tutus. After finishing their meal, they produce harmonicas with which they begin to play (badly).

What does all this mean? Beats the heck out of me, but it makes more sense than much of what's happened in here today.

*Wanders over to the Tea Table of Peace looking for a nice hot cup of Earl Grey.*
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:49:23 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

What ravages of spirit conjured this temptuous rage?
Created you a monster, broken by the rule of law?
And fate has led you through it, you do what you have to do
And fate has led you through it, you do what you have to do

I have the sense to recognize that I don't know how to let you go..
I don't know how to let you go..

Every moment marked with apparitions of your soul

However swiftly moving, trying to escape this desire
The yearning to be near you, I do what I have to do
The yearning to be near you, I do what I have to do

And I have a sense to recognize, that I don't know how to let you go
I don't know how to let you go..

A glowing ember
Burning hot and burning slow
Deeper than I'm shaken by the violence of existing for only you..

I know I can't be with you, I do what I have to do
I know I can't be with you,I do what I have to do

And I have the sense to recognize but I don't know how to let you go
I don't know how to let you go..

-Sarah McLachlan
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:43:35 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

*enters*

UPDATE: Ok, I'm no where near finding out who my secret admirer is, and aparently he/she knows my other e-mail address (which I have told very few people). Either I have a secret admirer, or it's just more junk mail ads that sent me stuff.

Will update further later. Need to head out the door to my award ceremony. Wish me luck!

*GONE*
Mary Flanders
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:01:55 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Pisstoff - At least we're all in a positive mood... Seriously, where has all this invective come from? I haven't looked at the number thingies either, but they're only a few lines in each post, and easily ignored. And I don't think Kaito is trying to police thought. He was just trying to break up an increasingly ugly incident. He may not have done in the best way (I haven't read his post in detail), but he seems to be just trying to calm things down. And even if he isn't, is ripping into him with a chainsaw the most effective way to do things?

I think we all need to take a step back and THINK. I still can't understand where this is all coming from, but it's unnatural. "Stepping back and thinking things over" has been recommended at least once in every flame war that I can remember, and it's never been done ONCE that I can recall. What it means is that you stop yelling for a while, even if others don't. Can we do that?

*Joins the Tea Table of Peace*
Gunjack "Piano Man" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 09:47:44 PM
IP: 216-146-183-97.bwn.net

:::Trots into the CR grinning:::
Howdy everyone! :::takes a seat at LC's Tea Table of Peace::: Who's up for a nice game of fish?

Lady Corax:<<And I appreciate ya rootin' for the women drivers. We rule.>> You all certainly do! ^_^ <<Oh my goodness!!! He's coming back!!! :) Thanks for the link!! WOW!!>> :::grins and watches LC bounce around the room::: I think I made her happy.

SJ and LC: <<Bring back Shawn Michaels!!!>> :::smiles and tilts her head::: As I, and a group of my closest lady friends, always say... If you're not a fan, you're a fan in denial.

Cali:<<lol oy! Again, why is it one needs a reason to be hyper!>> Don’t mind him, Cali dear... that’s his answer for everything. :::laughs:::
<< I get happy over tiny miniature pastries!>> Dim sum! WHOO! : D

Mary: Don’t worry hon, there’s someone out there for everyone... sometimes all you have to do is realize the love and potential you have inside yourself to see it in another. Keep your eyes and heart open to possibility and love falls right in your lap. Sometimes it takes time, but it’s worth the wait to have that perfect match in your life. ^_^ As Jannie said... "Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open."

Warpmind: <<Mmmm... guess who became REALLY happy yestereve? ]:)>> :::Gasp:::
<<You've not even heard the voice my sweet Lynati's speaking of. ;) (And, if she gets her way, you won't get the opportunity...) >> And in all fairness, you’ve not heard the voice Dreamie is speaking of :::laughs and winks:::

Lain:<<PC Bible>> O.o Wow... I didn’t think anything could be even more confusing than the original Bible itself :::Clasps forearms with Lain::: Thank you for showing me the light :::chuckles:::

Winterwolf:<<<smothering> Be careful I just might like it! ;) >> :::laughs and swats him::: <<Shadowrider>> Be sure to send him my best! ^_^

Emambu:<<*blinks* You've never seen 2010? Come on, it's got Roy Scheider, John Lithgow, and Helen Mirren. That alone makes it worth watching. :) >> Ooo... I love John Lithgow! Sir, you have forced me to rent, thank you. :::laughs:::
<<BTW, if you're bringing the beachball, I'll bring the frisbees, and possibly the volleyball too.>> :::turns to Winterwolf and grins evilly::: Get the volleyball net and a Polaroid. :::Chuckles and mumbles low::: Plot is foiled, huh...<<"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Fund a religious group to give a man a fish and he'll eat as long as he attends morning services.">> Well... I just have one question then... do I still get my fish if I fall asleep in the last pew? ^_~

Niamhgold: <<** Waves back ** Hola! Como estas?>> Things couldn‘t be going better, thanks for asking! ^_^ <<If you'd like, I'd love to send you some e-mail sometime.>> Absolutely, I’d be delighted! :::grin::: I hope that tendon is feeling better, we’re all pulling for you. :::Big hug:::

<<TV funhouse>> It’s a funny show... Crude, but still a riot. :::laughs:::

Lynati:<< I prefer either black, silver, or Indigo (my colors)(although royal purple or blue will do)...>> Yet there’s nothing like black and leopard print ones to make you feel powerful.

<<Valentines Day boycott>> This year I accept the holiday with open arms, on the note that there should be no single day in which you should show your love to your significant other that’s more important than any other. And even then, show infinitely more each following day.

Gside:<<Then you built a Total Perspective Vortex, with proportion limiters (of course), for naught purposes? And what recipe did you use for the fairy cake?>> I’ll leave post-it notes here and there, and maybe, just maybe, you’ll be able to put the ingredients in order. I will say one thing though... go light on the flour for extra stickiness. ;)

Pistoff:<<......That's why I hate the show... >> Heh heh... I knew I liked you :::laughs:::

<XFL> Well apparently the ratings cut in half the second Saturday, finishing last in the big four networks. I guess we’ll have to wait to see just how long it lasts.

:::Waves from the Tea table::: Have a nice day! ^_^

(And by the way... I've been talked into posting a link to my latest commission...:::cringes and covers her eyes::: Be gentle)

Dreamie
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 09:42:08 PM
IP: ac94dfe2.ipt.aol.com

Darn, I hit Submit button before I finished my post. Oh well, you'll know it's me because I am the only one who uses this particular color.

My dad said that the supper I cooked smells good. Considering that is an experiment, that is a compliment. Considering it has a variety of flavors and fills me up makes me glad I decided to experiment.

**RP RELATED**
No BFTS RP from me today, considering I am slighlty behind on planning my next series of adventures. Why do I need planning? Simple, the inner workings of ITAG will be revealed.
**END RP RELATED**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:53:19 PM
IP: max1-3.cwy.cei.net

sorry. color mistake. [glares at color mistake demons]
Daphne
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:38:44 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.212.101.philadelphia1.level3.net

Well, well, all this stuff sure does look familiar. Nice to see that nothing has changed since I left some months ago. I'm finding this quite amusing, actually.

James: So, the impression I'm getting from you is that it's perfectly acceptable for you to go on and on and on with your sick little RPs about being in a pit of hentai tentacles, yet when other people post stuff about a harmless little thing they're doing just for fun, you tell them to stop. Fascinating...

Kaioto: Something else that hasn't changed--you just can't wait to tag your post with "CR deputy administrator" and slap people with the CR rule book. I've never seen you pass up an opportunity to get up on your pedestal and lecture people and generally pretend that you're more highly evolved than everyone else. Maybe most people in here buy it, but I can see right through you. You get all huffy and puffy when somebody disagrees with you, and you immediately try to shut them down by implying that their dissenting opinion is an attempt to start a flame war. Deputy Administrator? Looks more like Thought Police to me. I've seen it happen again and again, and I know I'm not the only one who has noticed it.

By the way, just a note to the CR in general--when James was doing those bits about the tentacle pit, hardly anybody even blinked. Yet when a certain someone said he doesn't like erotica, he got blasted and ended up having to leave the CR. It's really good to know that the typical TGS Room brand of hypocrisy and double-standards is alive and well.

RL circumstances have kept me away for the last couple of weeks, but a real post is coming as soon as possible. Assuming I don't get banned for daring to tell the truth. Well, if that happens, so be it....
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:38:28 PM
IP: ppp105-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Nukes>> mine's YoPhilly01. it's a zero, not an o.

Mary>> yes! single females unite! I'm sure you've read about my v-day boycott, but I still have a few interesting v-day-esque stories. example: I'm fixing an ex of mine up with one of my best friends, while my other best friend, who has been unlucky in live until about a week ago, has suddenly become a player (yes, he's a guy). Meanwhile, I have to start finding a date for the prom already. I am *not* happy about that.


****BFTS RP****
[commercial free for pledge week. if you want to keep such programs as "The joy of Mucus" on the air, pledge now. For the minimun "member" pledge, you will recieve the "Joy of Mucus" cookbook absolutely free]

<THE REALM>
Jason Filler arrives in the Realm. He is greeted by Daphne.

"Have I missed anything important lately?" he asks.

Daphne looks at him. She knows he has just survived a battle, but he's asking her what's been going on. "Not too much, but there have been strange appearences in a park near here."

"Strange how?"

"People show up out of no where. I know that's not really all that strange," she ignored his surprised look at that remark, "but they've mostly been young children... and they've all been dressed strangley."

"How so?"

Daphne looks Jason over. "Kind of like you, actually."

****END BFTS RP****


happiness, all!

Daphne
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:37:38 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.212.101.philadelphia1.level3.net

Hmm.

Wilek - Knowledge is power.

Great. Spamming just reached a new low. I was spammed with an instant message advertisement for a porn site. So how do I block 'instant message spamming' while remaining open for anybody from RL to find me?

Hmm. Combining a few recipes from boxes produced a good meal for me.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:22:38 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

Todd: Hmm... point.
But I think that the single reference to one of the more popular games at the time was a good one.
Looking back on it, though, it makes it able to "date" the episode. Kinda like "Runaways" (TGC).

OH! Before I forget (again), has anyone in here played Vampire: The Mascarade - Redemption (I am mainly talking about the PC Game)

***SPOILER//QUESTION ABOUT Vampire: The Mascarade - Redemption***

WHAT HAPPENED TO SERENA?!?!?!?!?
We find out what happened to his other team mates, but not her. I WANT TO KNOW!

***END SPOILER!***
Fire Storm
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 07:51:10 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Well, it was more the fact that commercial references felt untrue to "Gargoyles", because the television series never contained any (except for references to Disney products).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 07:42:40 PM
IP: 216.87.46.2.dialup-stl.primary.net

Mary: Any luck on finding whoever sent you the message?

Gside: <I think I'll finish off the site's Ranma before I work on any of its other stuff>
Thats what I am doing.
<Well, ICQ (or AIM) is out because of that !@$#%^*!@#$% 140meg limit Rutgers puts on me>
Is that a daily or weekly limit?
<And are CDs really worth it for the somewhat low quality we're getting?>
A season per CD? Hell yeah! I mean, it's not like a CD costs $100!
<Plus, would you trust me with your address (return of evil laugh).>
Hmm... point taken! :)

Wilek: <How 'bout giving them their own planet, devoid of sentient life but replete with quickly-reproducing potential host animals, to play with?>
Did that a long time ago with one brood of eggs. Not exactly sure when, where, or which multiverse, so I can't exactly check up on them :(
But I don't think I should do that agian. Just to be safe.
<They weren't from your hive, but I think you'd enjoy seeing the alterations anyhow>
Are you sure? But, the alterations are nice!
<We're using them as guard dogs, basically; at least we will when we figure out how to install cybermechanical implants that won't dissolve due to their blood>
GFL. The longest thing that I have seen was a nice titanium-silicon-lithium alloy. Lasted pretty long before disolving (10 seconds).
None of the scientists that I have talked to have been able to develop anything. Hell, even our SKIN isn't acid proof. The mucus is what keeps us together. And, for some reason, it is an insulator, not a conductor.
You know... there was a time a brood was created in the upper atmoshpere of a jovian planet. Their blood was compatable with cybernetics.
GIVEN, those children were pretty passive... and hydrogen based... and were big blobs of cellular matter that was basicaily a baloon that absorbed other creatures from the planet... and they can only survive in a atmosphere with 50,000x the pressure of this one, containing absolutely nothing heavier than oxygen...
Hmm... maybe that WOULDN'T help!

Kaioto: Welcome back! I just wish it were on better terms...

Warpmind: <I might at last get the last Xxxenophile Collection albums...>
Hmm... sounds interesting!
(Nice review on Amazon, though:
Harlan Ellison, from the back cover
"I read this comic. I enjoy this comic. But I'm a well-known pervert, so what the hell does my opinion matter?"
Well, now I am curious!)

Todd: Were there problems with the Quake reference, or was it just decided that product placement may make people thing that you are endorsing the products?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 07:40:33 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

WILEK - Actually, that "Quake" business was what led to the "no commercial references" policy.

And I assure you that I'm perfectly sane. You can't always judge a person by his company.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 07:25:57 PM
IP: 216.87.46.2.dialup-stl.primary.net

::Appears through the ground Shadow Cat/Ryoko style and hops onto a chair near Lady Corax'a Peace Table::
Oh boy Free Cinnastix!

The goodnews about the rash is that its only from an allegic reaction to that mane and tail shamppo...You know the kind that was oirginally for horses but people use it too? I've switched shampoos and rubbed on some Lanicane::Still would like a tub full of calamine lotion::

the recent tiff>>i guess to avoid further confrontations is to not post any more fun links... but that is the Richard Crotty theory wich is of course against my standards.

I guess what we do is try to relax and not get our tails,wings,tendrils,hooves in a knot..for those that have them.

GREAT NEWS....It's here it's here its here...what is it? My slayers NEXT DVD pack!
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 07:18:46 PM
IP: user-37kapgc.dialup.mindspring.com

Just a quick note that I have no idea when I'll post next... DC has done something truly evil to my net connection, and my life isn't much better at the moment. The beatings continue. Anyway, I'll see y'all when everything quits boiling...

*Exits, hoping that the recent flareup will die down soon.*
Gunjack "does this make me look fat?" Valentine
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 06:59:55 PM
IP: 216-146-183-155.bwn.net

Kaioto> You're right about some of my comments earlier when I posted a link to that article. As most in here can tell, I'm a HUGE champion of free speech. I do know that the Klan has a right to march as long as they're not hurting anyone. But I also took pleasure in that crowd attacking them, because I despise the Klan. Since I champion free speech, that may seem hypocritical. And you know what? It is. But I'm not perfect, I'm far from perfect. I am one of the last people who would claim perfection. I'm only human.

We are all only human in here. There are a lot of differences between people in here, and I like that. I don't want everyone to be the same as me. I like reading Sevarius Jr's posts, I disagree with a lot of his statements (and agree with a lot to), but one thing I always do is think about some of the things he says, sometimes long and hard. The same with other people, I think about what they say, especially if I disagree with them.

Right now, I see a lot of fighting over nonsense. Things that shouldn't have happened in the first place. Doug and Kit posted their stats and James complained about them, and it's led to more problems than some discussions here on this board then discussions about Hitler, Politics, Religion and other things in a long time, and this amazes me. Why? I think that there are certainly more important things to complain about. Doug and Kit posting their Hero stats is not disrupting the room at all IMO. There is nothing offensive about it.

I wonder is any of the above made sense. But the point is that I love this CR, and enjoy talking with the people on it, and it pains me to see anger and hostility over such an insignificant thing.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 06:21:28 PM
IP: dialin-54-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Kirshanta: I couldn't possibly be any sort of 'authority' on TGS episodes. You may have missed some of my finer blunders (most recently, suggesting that it might be nice to see Herne return, only for Todd to kindly point out that he actually died two years ago in 'THE DARKEST HOUR'). I assure you, there's bound to be more, I reckon I'm well overdue. ^_^ There are several people in this room far better qualified than I to be 'authorities' but I think it's far more interesting not to have 'authorities' and just good old fashioned discussions anyway.
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 06:20:50 PM
IP: aca25f34.ipt.aol.com

**LC enters, dusting off the Tea Table of Peace in the corner before sitting down, ordering out for huge amounts of tea and pizza.** Well, I'll just be sitting over here at the ol' Tea Table of *Peace*...anyone's free to join me soon as the pizza gets here...:)

Wilek> "Regina Via..." hm. I kinda like that...:) And you're exactly right about the Zora mask...that thing is SO darn cool! My brother actually let me swim around with it on during his game, and I swear, that thing was so spiffy!

Then again, I do have a list of all the racing nicknames I've gotten (or at least have been said so I can hear)...and it's a rather interesting list...:)

**reclines back in her chair, smiling** Well, less than 24 hours till the big V-Day...anyone got anything cool planned? :)

Until next time, be good to each other! :)
Lady Corax
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 05:45:41 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Kirshanta> Alright, quit your moralizing right now. I'm not the higher moral authority of this place and don't claim to be. I have my own opinions regarding such things, and they are biased. I'll exercise them as a poster. I'm not going to enforce them on the room with the authority of an Admin if I can help it.

My _Job_ here is to facilitate the room and keep down the flame wars and personal insults, try to manage the ratings when absolutely necessary. I'd like to keep any official-type censorship of room content to an absolute minimum on principle. I'm not going to try and "purge the evil" or anything else from this room in my role as a moderator. I'm not your personal Inquistor. I'm going to enforce the rules as is my job, and little more if I can help it.

That's the long and short of that. End of discussion.

If you can't behave when your ego is bruised or your feelings or hurt, you need to adjust. It doesn't give you or James the right to break the rules or try to control the comment room any more than it gives Kit the right to insult James.

If you've got a problem with being reproached or chastized when you are out of line, go to one of the boundless number of unmoderated chat channels where people are free to flame and abuse each other to their heart's content. If you'd like to enjoy the environment Gorebash provides us here, then respect the rules which keep it that way.

High and mighty or otherwise, those are the rules. Deal.
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 05:26:29 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

Allright guys... I am sorry but I just have to say something here..
I know I have no right and am not an administrator nor am I in any way connected to the administrators of this comment room but please.. your anger is causing pain here.

"Anger is not a pleasant feeling. It is a blazing flame that burns up our self control and causes us to say and do things that we regret later. When someone is angry, we can see clearly that he or she is abiding in Hell. Anger and hatred are the materials from which Hell is made. A mind without anger is cool, fresh and sane. The absence of anger is the basis of real happiness, the basis of love and compassion.
When anger is placed under the lamp of mindfulness, it immediately begins to lose some of its destructive nature.. Awareness can be called upon to be a companion for our anger. Our awareness of anger should not should not surpress it or drive it our. It should just look after it. This is a very important principle.. When we are angry, we are not usually inclined to return to ourselves. We want to think about the person who is making us angry, to think about their hateful aspects - their rudeness, dishonesty, cruelty, maliciousness and so on. THe more we think about, listen to, or look at the person, the more the anger flares. The dishonesty and hatefulness may be real, imaginary or exaggerated but the root of the problem is the anger itself. We have to come back inside and look at all of ourselves.
It is best if we do not look at the person who we consider to be the cause of our anger. Like a fireman, we have to pour water on the blaze first and not waste time looking for the one who set the fire. So it is best to avoid thinking about the other person, and refrain from doing or saying anything as long as our anger persists. If we put all our mind into observing the anger, we will avoid doing any damage we may regret later.
When we are angry, the anger is our very self. To surpress the anger or chase it away is to surpress yourself. When we are joyful, we are the joy. When we are angry, we are the anger.. we need not be aftaid of it or reject it..if we know how to accept our anger, we already have some peace and joy. Gradually, we can transform anger completely into understanding. "

I be not wise in the ways of the world. I am just a youngster in the grand scheme of things. If this doesn't make any sense, just put it down to my mindless babbling and the fact that I have stuffed my nose in where it probably was not wanted.

Looking back, I do not really see a cause for such anger as has been expressed.

I, too, have been upset with the constant streams of numbers because my computer will not load the "hero machine" and so I cannot understand no matter how I might wish to. I have been upset with a great number of things. I was upset by Kirshanta's comment about "people who don't think Hitler was evil" because... I am one of those people.. I hesitate to say this now, because I know how angry people can become. I don't agree with anything AT ALL about what Hitler did but.. I don't think he was "evil" because I feel that is too cheap of an excuse for him, as though it makes him not responsible for his own actions. But that is my opinion and I am humbly sorry if it is really that offensive.
I know I am not innocent here. That post I made about the politically correct Bible caused some anger aswell, and for that I am also sorry. I thought it was humorous and I did not mean to offend people who have different tastes in humour.

Everyone here comes from different backgrounds. Some are more sensitive than others. I think taking time between reading something that causes anger and posting a response might be a helpful solution, but it is only my idea and you do not have to take it seriously...
Please believe that by saying this, I am only trying to help this situation.
If I have made it worse, then I place myself at your mercy and humbly apologize if I have spoken out of line. Please forgive me if that is what I have done.

love,
lain
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 05:02:20 PM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Ed > You are completly and totally right. What's more, I want to formally apoligize for all the stuff i said to you and propose that you become the official TGS authority on episodes (as I believe someone already proposed)

James > No problem. I'm backing off. Actually, I'm backing WAY out - like away.
P.S. It's not like agreeing with you was treating you like a charity case.
Kirshanta
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 04:49:09 PM
IP: g69-245.citenet.net

TGS: ‘GARGOYLES’

***May include spoilers for recent episodes***

Kirshanta: None of the above. Or rather, on this forum, the below.

You see, it’s not really an issue of how in-depth the descriptions are that I’m making. Coyote is a great writer: the material there was clearly presented and since the plot bobbed along at a fair old pace without a great deal of drama, there didn’t seem a desperate need to flesh out the passages that much. But even if this story was two, three, four times as long, it still wouldn’t have made a difference. The problems I have with it are structural.

Or the lack of it: you see, ‘TRANSITIONS’ has a clear consistent tone, a tangible move in the characters from beginning to end, and very sharp focus on the development of these said characters. It worked in elegantly minor scenes which complemented the plot in a very structured way. ‘THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH’ did not. It moved through a myriad of characters with a very loose theme; it undermined itself by revealing the villain too early; it had no apparent character focus; and even as a filler ep (which I must admit, I’m not usually that partial to anyway) seemed to lack cohesion.

Your accusations of the stories are rather sweeping but I don’t see a great deal of evidence in the stories to back it up. And even any tenuous links certainly don’t seem to have a particular link to the size of stories. The size of stories is a means to an end, not – for the purposes you prescribe it – an end in itself.

Let’s go through them: “plot lines are being invented out of the blue while the more important issues are being cast aside?”
Far from it. This season certainly hasn’t had plots out of the blue on anything like the scale of the last season. Remember the Redcaps? The Yarm? All those thug Minions? All the names of the London Clan? Grimalkin’s cat-people or whoever they were? Last season simply exploded in ideas. But it suffocated the plots. I was too busy trying to keep track of the sheer number of characters introduced that it muddled the plot. And the stories were, at times, worse for it. Last season, ‘Pendragon’ dealt with it rather well: but try and look for some really good development on Dulcinea, Nimue, the Lady of the Lake, about thirty of the names mentioned as being part of the London Clan, Macbeth, Marter, Leo etc. The cast is enormous. Introducing new characters each episode doesn’t help. The new present-day series, ‘Pendragon’ and ‘Gargoyles’ thus far, have been delightfully conservative in their application of new characters. Emily Gray in ‘Gargoyles’; the Seftons and Nelsons in ‘Pendragon’ were the only real noteworthy characters, although there were also loads of London clan cameos, none of which I’m afraid to say I can remember all that well. But stories of smaller size stories can be very well done: and once again, I point to ‘TRANSITIONS’ as a fine example. There’s a FOCUS, and a sense of unity drawing together both a main plot and several fascinating supplementary bits and pieces.

What’s the more important issue? Personally, I think it’s that the point of the episode is clear and well delivered. This may take a big story – do you remember the ‘Timedancer’ season 2 two-parter ‘MENAGERIE’? That was far longer but used that space to absolutely breathtaking effect. But it kept its focus. Far easier, I admit, to do with ‘Timedancer’ than any of the other series due to the small recurring cast. But until recently, ‘Gargoyles’ stories used to pick up a range of stories splattered across an episode. Boil down the individual character components and I think you’re probably still getting the same A-plot. Maybe even the same B-plot. You just aren’t getting those pad-out C, D, E, F and G plots. So whereas time was (as an example), stories might have some plot focus on Goliath, some on Madoc, some on Lex, some on Angela and Demona, some on Matt and some on the Xanatoses, now we might just get the scenes on Lexington contrasted with the scenes with the Xanatoses. Much sharper, much clearer. Think back on an episode and you can remember what it was about. The season’s instantly easier to track.

You see, having massive ‘epics’ is all very well. But ultimately, despite its fanfic status, TGS is just the same as any other fic: it wants an audience. If people instantly get put off by the sheer size of stories and get massively behind, then it’s easy to lose interest. The trick is to be accessible at many levels. I think the size of stories can be a means to an end, only assuming that the plot is also accessible and memorable as a superficial experience. A superficial experience can still be a moving one, and a memorable one of course. But then, how deep can the writers dig into these stories? The tightness of the dialogue, the efficiency of the description, the pacing, the foreshadowing – that’s all the stuff that the more ardent reader will pick up. Not everybody’s going to be an ardent reader all the time. At present, I’ve got quite a lot of time on my hands. Had the season started a week or two earlier, I probably would have ended up reading the opening at a less leisurely pace and not taken time to sort out my thoughts in commenting.

There’s another reason why I think the smaller size of stories is important – and that’s accessibility to newcomers. There’s now eighty episodes of ‘Gargoyles’, a similar amount of ‘Pendragon’ (admittedly largely because they shared season 2), fifty-two episodes of ‘Timedancer’ and forty-odd for ‘Dark Ages’. A LOT of episodes. Some of them are quite small. Some of them are massive. Now I absolutely loved ‘CONSEQUENCES’ but I think it was about the same size as ‘REPRISALS’ and that was a 3-part finale. I know which is more accessible though. (To be fair, ‘CONSEQUENCES’ had chapters to break itself up but the cliffhanger breaks still are big aids to sporadic readers – no page-searching for one). Thing is, leaping on the TGS bandwagon is now a very difficult task, requiring a LOT of time. ‘Pendragon’ and ‘Gargoyles’ over the last few months were both, for the most part, quite accessible. Could have made more use of previously segments and exposition and times but by and large I wouldn’t have any problems recommending the seasons to a non-TGS reader who liked ‘Gargoyles’. Now, the ‘Gargoyles’ fandom is growing – logically, as more people come onto the ‘net hopefully at a larger pace than those leaving the fandom. The numbers in synch with contemporary TGS proceedings however, are likely to be going down. Some will catch up. Some just won’t. Some may not even try. UNLESS it’s accessible at any given point of access.

I’ve wandered off point a bit so I’ll go through these a bit quicker…
“apparent lack of continuity amongst the clan - the character development that seems to have gone astray?”
No more or less so than last season. It’s just that character development now means that the writers are going to take space to explore a character either in relation to somebody else (e.g. Demona through Brooklyn last week), or in their own right (Brooklyn himself). As opposed to the old style, where this would be just one of many active plots bubbling.

“parody of themselves - why Goliath has no backbone except toward Xanatos - why Elisa seems to be mad at the world - why Demona seems to have turned into a fanged Jim Carey?”
Goliath is featured too little to show how he can be the spine of the series. I don’t know about this ‘mad at the world’ or ‘fanged Jim Carrey’ malarkey though.

“Let us observe a moment of silence for the wonderful details, the amazing subtility that have been sacrificed on the altar of shorter stories, for the sake of destroying history...”
Steady on, Kirshanta – I’m starting to worry about you! :P I don’t see how history has been, or is being, destroyed. I don’t see how subtlety has been sacrificed, save by making it more subtle – now you actually have to read the dialogue for different meanings and look where there’s something noteworthy about their physical description; as opposed to gauging things by the handy descriptions of emotion. But to be honest, I think your case is overstated. Many of these writers also wrote the older stories and haven’t changed particularly in style. The plots are shorter but those writers with a natural bias towards dialogue-centric work naturally make the best with that, and those with a knack for description-based prose also make that approach appealing to read. There’s loads of different styles.

“I mean - come on - we can all admit that the depth of the characters is missing - due in large part to the lack of details within a scene.”
I think Demona’s looking more healthy than she’s been since she bought a flying umbrella and started nannying, that the Trio has had their relationship explored, and that there’s great promise in plots relating to Matt, Goliath, Alex, Fox, Hyena and Graeme. Character depth is fine: it’s just being taken in a far more methodical approach. And the sort of details you alluded to last week are frankly the icing: and I always preferred the cake myself.

Taleweaver: You’re certainly right, and I don’t expect to be heaping praises on the TGS staff every week. I think there were several things that could have been done to improve the episode but Coyote’s post is very interesting in explaining what was there. I think the fact that the villain didn’t have any particular menace (we found out it was Taro before there was even suspicion it was Thailog after all). And we moved from main character to main character that some of the, albeit clichéd, potential charms of the episode – such as the whittling down of the clan to very few – wasn’t really given much attention. It wasn’t that I didn’t enjoy the story – as an experience, I enjoy the vast majority of TGS stories. It’s just that it didn’t make any impact on me as a reader for the reasons I largely outlined in my review. And on the quality of TGS episodes, that was a little sad.

Patrick: Of course, there’s an alternative which I’m rather hoping to see. It may well be that whilst you might seem a little malnourished from the new slimfast TGS diet, that when in previous seasons Mother Hubbard’s cupboard would have long since run bare, you can still be munching away for a long while yet.

Coyote: Thanks for the explanation. I can see where you’re coming from with the satire, and I must admit it amuses me more for your explanation. I guess for my tastes it just needed to be brought out more in the way the rest of the story worked. I don’t know about it being Python-like. But maybe I’ve been eating too much spam. :)

On another note, a big thanks to all the writers - Ordell, Coyote, Robby and Todd - who have popped in with their own thoughts on the stories this season. :)
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 04:13:15 PM
IP: aca256ec.ipt.aol.com

Subject dropped. Kirshanta> Don't put actions up for me. I am not an NPC :)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 04:07:18 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-18-114.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

It saddens me, but I think I will be kicked out for what I just posted - so before they cut me off, let me just say that it was a great ride.

Thanx everyone...
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 03:59:42 PM
IP: g69-245.citenet.net

** Kirshanta enters, enraged ***

OK OH high and mighty administrator >>> So instead of being cool about the fact that I tried to help, you come in and step on my wings, like I'm some kid you can just kick around.
Get off your power trip horse and come down to earth.
There's been A LOT of worse stuff going on in the CR recently - torture and violence and people who don't think Hitler is evil. Many of those turned into bloodbaths (especially the political things) and NOT ONCE DID YOU LIFT A CLAW TO STOP THOSE !!!

SO HOW DARE YOU NOW !!

You know what - I don't need this. I did not sign on here to be treated like a child.

AND NEVER call someone MISSY.


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 03:55:46 PM
IP: g69-245.citenet.net

*Warpmind enters, looking rather grim.*
No proper netaccess all day, and when I finally get there, all that's lying in my in-box is spam... grrrrr... :(

Christine: Brennheite, svartsvidde, innfule... *Ehum* Please excuse that brief Norse outburst... I just realized I haven't taken the time to write that AvMists contest story... :( Oh, well, let's see if I can't whip up something in a rush...

Fire Storm: LA... Manga... it has a nice ring to it... *Hope, hope* Oh, well, if nothing else, I might at last get the last Xxxenophile Collection albums... *Clears throat* Nobody heard that. And I mean NOBODY!!!

*Suddenly realizes Valentine's Day is tomorrow, and grins smugly, mumbling something about Kansas City...*

Sorow: Aw, don't stress it - everyone slips on occasion... though, that enemy of yours... if you like, I'm *sure* I could provide a few nice, fun ways to torment him/her... ];)

Fire Storm again: Oooo, Hero Machine... Hmmm... Methinks I'll try to work out my RP character and post a proper link, or something... ]:)

Liked the TGS episode, by the way - pretty much predictable, simple and rather clean-cut, but... I suppose we needed one of those, too. :)

NukesGoBoom: You've just started reading? From one who's been where you are, Good Luck, and Good Patience! You're in for a LOOOOOONG break from RL, if you're planning to read all the episodes.... :)

Mandolin: *Pats shoulder* The internet MAY depersonalize, and it MAY bring people closer together... me, I keep recalling that there's a living person on the other end (or, in some cases, I just keep assuming it until I have definite proof of mu suspicions). And I can, with my hand on my heart (and, my foot in my mouth?) claim that I look forward to meeting several of you fruitcakes at G'01. :) Condolances to the friends and family of Ms. Spengler, too...

Lain: Sign me up for one of those bracelets, aye? :) (Even better, send Lynati a bracelet, and send me a matching collar...) ];)

Wilek: No way of... amigo, is it just that you don't trust the postal services? 'Cause if that's it, I could have an Illuminati courier drop by your place to retrieve it. (One of the lower-level stooges, of course, with more ambitions than brains. Just to ensure he'd not note down the address for later use...) Though, since there don't exist any visual records, the idea seems redundant... *Grmf* Wait, polaroids? ];)

*Ponders commenting on the flareup in the CR, then notes that Kaioto dropped by to calm things down, and shuts his trap.*

Mmmph, mmmmph, mmmph mmph. (That is, Catch y'all later, muchachos!)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 03:43:19 PM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

Well ... my name's still on the list of people responsible for this place ...

Kirshanta> Sorry missy, but you're out of line on this one too. Several people have cross posted this room regarding a new hero-generator application that was offered to the people in the room and there is nothing wrong with that. They may continue to do so until it takes up an excessive ammount of room space. If you are feeling left out, scroll back to Firestorm's link and give it a shot. If you choose not, that's your decision, but no one needs to stop having their fun because you "feel left out."

The room is not limited to on-topic conversation and no one should be seriously taking it upon themselves to try to make it that way. If things get overly disruptive, ask the moderating staff to do something about it. Don't try to regulate other commenter's behavior.

On that note, Kit and James are both out of line for certain comments.

James>

<<Kit> I don't want your excuses. >>

She doesn't need to give you any justification, James. The Hero-machine posting was not out of out of line and no one needs to justify it to you. I'll this one time politely suggest you drop the issue.

Kit> There is no need to result to calling his names. He's out of line, but if you'd like someone who's harrassing you to be dealt with, please don't take it into your own hands, but contact a moderator. That's pretty much our job, besides trying to reign in the occassional gore/language binge that crops up.

I know this is a small thing, but I've seen worse situations spring up from smaller issues, and I want to nip it NOW before it gets into something messy. I can see more than one person on either side of this and I don't want it to turn into a ... ahem ... "debate" and have Robby have to start handing out official strikes to people.

None of this is to be considered a warning ... more of a caution. I don't want any more debate on the issue. If you don't care for the numbers, scroll on by. Now, please, drop it before things get more serious.

If you feel something is taking up too much space, drop me a line. I'll use my better judgment and listen to your opinions, as well as explain the rules if they need clarification

Thank you for you time.
Carry on,
Kaioto, CR Deputy Admin
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 03:40:33 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

** Kirshanta circles, wondering if she should land amidst the fury emanating from Kit. Finally, she settles down gently, afraid to break the sudden silence in the CR. Walking over to James, she takes his hand and stands next to him **

Sorry Kit >> But I'm with James on this one - PLEASE lay off the numbers. Not only is it giving me a headache, but those of us who can't acces those beautiful pictures of yours are feeling quite left out.

** Kirshanta, still holding James' hand, walks over to Kit and Doug standing in the field, looking sad and upset **

However James >> You and Kit both said some pretty nasty things to each other - maybe it was a misunderstanding on both your parts. Please don't let it kill your spirits.

** Both James and Kit look at Kirshanta, then turn and walk away - in opposite directions. Howling in fury, Kirshanta unfurls her wings and takes off. Blast them anyway...***

*** Kirshanta lands next to Mandolin and puts a four-fingered hand on her shoulder**

Mandolin << That's really awful. You're right, I don't think people in this CR appreciate each other like they should. *** SHOOTS A POINTED LOOK IN KIT AND JAMES' DIRECTION *** Thanks for making us remember why we come back every day.

Coyote >> I'm glad I got it - That it was a joke I mean. Good thing most of us didn't get all worked up like poor Ed over there. *** WALKS OVER AND SITS NEXT TO A PANTING AND WEEZING ED WHO IS HOLDING HIS CHEST IN AGONY **

There there ED >> Don't take it so hard. Here ** PICKING UP POOR ED AND TAKING FLIGHT *** let me take you to a hospital.

Taleweaver >> I agree - the capture-a-live-garg IS getting old.

*** WALKING OVER TO PATRICK TOMAN, KIRSHANTA SLOWLY TAKES HIM BY THE SHOULDERS AND RUBS HER SILVER BROW-RIDGE AGAINST HIS FOREHEAD ***

Patrick >> How I do agree with you. A five-star restaurant indeed. *** EYEING HIM UP AND DOWN ** My, I do love how you think. *** KIRSHANTA SUDDENLY PICKS UP PATRICK AND TAKES OFF - NOT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE HOSPITAL... **
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 02:00:00 PM
IP: g69-245.citenet.net

Greg: Re: CNN article

That's just sad. It really is.

I find it pathetic and disheartening when those who stand out against the hate groups and racist organizations lower themselves to violence and repression. How two-faced is it to say that the Klan is in the wrong for the hatred, intolerance and violence they preach but then to go out and try and disrupt their peaceful (offensive and disgusting, but peaceful) march by assaulting and beating people in the group you disagree with? The people who attacked the Klan were in the wrong. The Klan was in the wrong too, IMO, but two wrongs don't make a right.

It makes me wonder about the other people who wear the Anti-Racist Action shirts like I own ... makes me concerned.

Yes, I'd like to live in a world without the Klan, but I'd rather live in a world where people didn't harm one another over differences in beliefs. The Klan is wrong. That doesn't mean it is right for people to enact violence on them. Answering hatred with hatred, ignorance with violence, and intolerance with intolerance simply dooms us to more of the same in one form or another. It is not progress.

You don't respond to offensive displays with violence under our laws. You wouldn't like it if it were done to you. You don't do it to others, no matter how much you loathe them, no matter how dispicable they may be (and marking a hate group through a community of Holocause survivors ranks right up their with some seriously twisted &*^$)

When they break property and violate someone else's person, THEN you can kick their asses. Either we all play by the same rules, or our notions of equality that these people offend so deeply ... those notions are just a sham.

It is a sad state of affairs all around :(
Greg - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:55:32 PM
IP: 141.133.147.152

James: You're a real prick, you know that? What the hell is wrong with wanting to show everybody the results of your creativity? Geez!

Wilek: <I was thinking of checking out Preacher, but...> It's not that bad, Wilek. Starr isn't really a dickhead. He just acts like one all the time. And then in Issue 24 (I think) Jesse cuts a line across his bald head the scarring from which creates many an opportunity for insult... Trust me, you'd like the comic. Starr's hardly the only fun character in there, or the only great one (the greatest is probably the Saint of Killers).

More tonight.
Kitainia - [<--Preacher links!]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:04:28 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.6.dlls.grid.net

****Kyryn steps in for a moment.****

Sevarius Jr.> I'll agree with you. I think that they're giving HHH far too much airtime lately.

Mandi> I know how you feel. With friends and the internet. Personally, I'm glad that I had the chance to meet with you and a few others at the Dallas Gathering, and I hope that I'll get a chance to meet with some of you again at a future time.

General TGS comments> To echo Taleweaver's comments -- you never know how the audience is going to react to a story. I've edited stories that I was not happy with and thought that the audience would hate -- they loved 'em. Then again, I've had stories that I loved working with that the audience was really not too keen on. Everyone's got differing opinions and every writer has a different writing style. To me it is interesting to see the subtle little differences in how different writers portray the same characters.

Later all!

***Kyryn steps out of the room.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:44:56 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

I found a humorous article on "The Threat of Hell" on a website, and was considering posting it here. But due to some of the controversy surrounding my statements, I won't post it.

But if you want to see it, feel free to e-mail me and I'll send you the link. I found it hilarious I must say.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:27:20 AM
IP: dialin-51-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Here's a rather interesting article. My only regrets about it are that not enough blood stained the white robes.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/12/16/klan.rally.reut/
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:15:14 AM
IP: dialin-51-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Kit> I don't want your excuses. What Lies Beneath> Never trust anyone named Norman. Tentacles breeding> Yep (salute and goes into pit again) I helped ^_^
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 09:46:51 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-1.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

[Wilek pulls himself off the Hero Machine long enough to post.] It seems to me that my life is a long string of obsessions and addictions. I remember when I first got my NES. I ever stopped playing Super Mario Bros for two things: eating and sleeping. The object has changed, but the verb has not. O_o

Warpmind> <<As for the AI, just remember, keep it somewhat simple, and don't forget to link'em to the control core in my pocketwatch.>> Will do. :) <<As for the Chocolate Factory, well... Tim Burton... Marilyn Manson... Hmmm... Maybe I should get that piano string, after all...>> Am I the only one who thinks this movie would rock? O_o (Except for Manson, and who knows, maybe even he is capable of pleasant surprises...) <<Those childhood memories of yours... Please tell me you have home videos of it. Or at least surveillance tapes. Preferrably, mailed to me on VHS PAL format? ]:)>> I wish--even if they hadn't been wiped out in an EMP burst caused by a botched experiment, I'd have no way of getting them to you. :(

Emambu> <<Awww... way to go all anti-climactic on me. :)>> :P I shall try to think up something cool next time. ^_^ <<BTW, it turns out Wilek's not such a bad guy after all.>> Define "bad". >8) <<Ok, that's cool. I won't further impede upon your galactic plans. Truthfully, I may need a job someday. :)>> Cool. What are your skills and specialties? :)

Mary> <<I do believe "Scheisse" was the name of the book I used to learn german cursing. Thanks for jogging my memory of the title. :)>> Glad to be of service. :) <<Yes, I'm glad I survived the driving lesson also. And only $100 dollars of damage!>> I envy how easily you got off--the one time I have ever been behind a wheel...the survivors refer to that day as "The Day Of The Red Death". I shall never forget the coverage on CNN. <<a big grocery shopping place with some large dancing pig statues>> Why is none of the cool architecture anywhere near my home? :P I bet it's interesting when they wake up at sundown, at any rate. <<I decided I just don't want a boyfriend right now. Guys may come and guys may go, but anime is forever. hehehehe...>:)>> Darn straight. <high-five> <<I just have to face it. No one in my RL gives a rat's ass about me. :(>> It's a good thing RL doesn't comprise the entirety of your available universe, then... <hugZ> <My writing probably isn't good either. Everything I can think up is based off of something I've already seen. >:(>> What you just said is true, on some level, of everything that everyone has ever written. So...it's not such a bad thing. :)

Gunjack> <<Ooo, and it looks like IM has been spontaneously deleted! Wasn't THAT nice? ^_^>> It takes a lot to truly frighten me... O_O' <<Gonna buy the Relic through Amazon? Why bother? I don't need my copy any more... o.O>> Your point? <<Heads out to break Iron Witches>> That sounds really philthy out of context. :P <<I'm REALLY waiting for the 3d platformer to die a cold, hard death...>> Pity, that; it's among my favorite genres--my Majora's Mask addiction was the only thing that managed to alleviate my Banjo-Tooie addiction. (If you continue to look at me like that, I will introduce you to an experimental pathogen that, for reasons you'd just as soon not know, I have nicknamed "Squidgey".) <<The musical was actually pretty cheery. That opening song, though... *shivers* ...>> My IDrive at www.idrive.com/wnereus can store MP3s and has upload capabilities. :) <<Basicly, it's just a shotgun shell loaded with thermite shot and liquid white phosphorus. Nasty as heck against personelle...>> Hiring you to our defense R&D division has really paid off. 8) <<You mean we actually have to play by the bugger's rules? Hmm... Methinks I'll try a solidifier array first, and then maybe a few Klio gaurds.>> Nice. I'd also pack a few melee weapons and burst-fire and sustained-beam energy weapons...<<It is, hands down, the best book I've EVER read on either comics OR art. Get it now!>> Will do. 8) <<And who changed the princess, anyway? o.O Mario's gonna have his brother's hide...>> Which may explain why he simply stepped off the face of the earth circa Super Mario RPG and didn't return until Mario Kart 64...<<That from FF8?>> Esthar is; the Cross Punisher is from something called Trigun. Big metal crucifix with a machine gun in the southern arm. <<And whaddya mean, "Place holder"?>> Sometimes, when I've finalized a character's personality and role in my ficverse but have yet to decide on a design, I'll use another character whose design is just as appropriate when visualizing his scenes. <<It's more along the lines of a Gundam, or the Landmates from Appleseed.>> Nice. :) What's the interface like? Conventional, supervised AI, cybermechanical, other? <<How much damage does a proton torpedo do, anyway? Are they like mininukes?>> I...have no idea. O_o <<Next time take the arm off first. Those unkillable enemies can be a real pain in the hindparts... : P>> Ach, why didn't I think of that...<readies a chainsaw> <<...And how long before we start going Imperial on their butts?>> <<...And how long before we start going Imperial on their butts?>> Foreign relations will be rather benign, actually--we can't take on an entire galaxy, not in this milennium anyhow. But anyone who is so unkind as to attack us will of course be erased from existence. <<Wilek, please go read the ENTIRE College Roomies From Hell archive. Now. You'll feel better for it, I promise.>> I'll be sure to, if I ever find it. :) <<*shrugs* ...Um, I can't remember what I said, so...>> Voice alteration machinery and its utility in celebrity impersonations. <<He can't nail ya if ya nail him first, can he?>> Do unto others...<hehehe> <<Since you apparently haven't read CRFH, I haven't the foggiest...>> <blink> <stares daggers at his experimental geneticist> Then why did you ask me for a DNA sample, doctor...? <brandishes his claws> <<I tried to cheat Lain, and she went ahead and let me. Then she tricked me into throwing away the prize.>> I hope it wasn't very valuable. O_o <<Did I actually SAY that!? o.O>> No, I did. o_o' <<Sounds like they ripped off Roald Dahl. Ever read "Revolting Rhymes"? ; )>> No, but I shall have to now. 8) <<Encore! Encore!>> Wish I could; that there was the highest poetry I'm capable of. O_o <<I think that's what they were saying... So any strength or inner fortitude is credited to his fey heritage, rather than to HIM.>> Ain't racism grand? <<Saturn? As in... Sega Saturn? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *Collapses in hysterical fit of laughter. After several minutes, he manages to regain his composure* ...heheheh. Whee! Please, no one say "Daikatana" right now... I'm not sure I could survive... *chuckle*>> [Wilek chuckles evilly, knowing he's just acquired a weapon.] Now, about that MP3... 8) <<Bitsy Pookums! Where have you been!?>> [Wilek GPFs, unable to decide whether to see this as a symptom or another weapon.] <<Um, you aren't gonna go blabbing about that little thing with the shirts and the leather and the spurs, right? Right?>> <see previous response> <<following Wilek into semi-annual postdom>> Wait a minute. Long, psychopathic, grey-shaded posts that typically have high casualty rates...?! OMG, I've become Traveler. <twitch> <hehehe> [On a sudden whim, Wilek clones DC several times and sets fire to them.] >:)) Odds, ends> What is with the "wang" thing? This is not the second coming of the Dragon Virus is it? Because I'm experimenting with a nanitic secondary immune system that can take care of that...<<Clicky on the link, and tell me who the girl reminds you of...>> I'm thinking Zoe from Sluggy Freelance. Three guesses who the human guy reminds me of. :P <<I mean, how would *I* react if the guy who was supposed to send me the concept art showed up two weeks late, missing his pants and screaming about winged monkeys? I probably wouldn't believe him either. So I won't offer excuses. I'll simply say that the delays in postage were unavoidable, and leave you to wonder why the entire front of my body has been covered in peanut butter, or why my face has been ritualisticly smeared with blue shroom paint. In a similar manner, I will blatently ignore any querries as to the origin of the animated demon skull that is currently chewing on my left kneecap, and leave you to decide for yourself why exactly the bitemarks seem to be growing tiny arms.>> Work on the Project does have its occupational hazards. <<My face needs more needles.>> Um, I wouldn't. My Cenobite contacts are a tad insistent. <<Wanna hear something REALLY pathetic? I haven't even gotten around to checking this out yet... : P>> You either? O_o <<Not that you're, y'know, BIASED or anything... *drool*>> Um...why do guys have this reaction to the thought of an F/F relationship? It's not like they're going to ask him to join them. Do straight chicks react this way to M/M couples? If so, why, and if not, why the double standard, hm? <<When ya gonna give us a REAL post? ];)>> Sometime before we all perish in flames. <<Today has been a Charlie Fox from beggining to end.>> Do...I wanna know? O_o

Daphne> <<cable-challengement (is that a word?)>> If it accurately conveys its meaning, it's a word. :)

DPH> <<I now have documented proof of inconsisent hiring practices. I can trade my silence on this breaking of the law for vacation time which will allow me to go to the G2K+1.>> I like the way you think. >:)

Gside> <<But it is mostly optional. Unless you really are that paranoid.>> I am. O_o <<Might as well go in for the sequel, too.>> Sequel? Ooh...<takes a note> <<You like Megaman, right? You just might like a webcomic, Bob and George. The author uses Megaman sprites for his artwork. And there's some funny tuff there, too.>> If I ever find it, I'll be sure to check it out. ^_^ <<Well yeah. I was really first exposed to the series through doujinshi, so that's goning to skew my position to begin with.>> Dare I ask what doujinshi is? <<And I need a woman.>> Why? Women are excellent intellectual company, but I get the feeling that your statement is hormonally motivated, and I find such matters totally mystifying... <<interesting note: in the Tenniel illustration, the ctterpillar's nose and chin are actually two of its legs)>> I'll remember that, if I ever see it. :) <<Wilek was just here, so I think you might have to wait a while for an official sanity removal.>> I have automatons to do it for me. :) <<Well, I was trying to keep the Mario reference running.>> In SMB2J (known here as The Lost Levels), there is a green mushroom that kills you. <<that's too artsy, and I'm a wang. Engineer.>> As if art and engineering could not coexist. (Go play Final Fantasy 9. Really cool stuff in there. I think you'd like Lindblum, the City of Engineers...) <<I just got back from the Penn and Teller stage show. Some quite good stuff.>> Ooh! ^_^ I've seen a few episodes of The Unpleasant World Of Penn And Teller, and I think what got me hooked was their reinterpretation of The Three Stooges (think Sam Raimi)...not to mention the World's Most Expensive Card Trick. >:) <<I propose we start a lab in competition to Narbonic Labs. I think we'd have a remarkably similar group dynamic. Too bad Wilek's personality sprites wouldn't look very good.>> Is there a programme I've missed? <<It's not a TGS character, so I'd think it would be disallowed.>> Umm, TGS does have a blue lady garg, by the name of Etolie...

Rev. Attila> <<Well, my tail is really a hentia tentacle :)>> Hold still. [<quietly, to one of his servant droids> Fetch me a tranq, a hatchet, and a protoplaser. Stat.] ;P <<I was wondering where you have been.>> Slaying the beast known as RL. A job that will never be finished, but hopefully I've come close.

SJ> <<Tomorrow, my beloved Baltimore Ravens face against the hated New York Giants!>> Suddenly, I'm curious: How does one decide what team to be a fan of? Is it a geographic thing, does it involve uniform aesthetics, do you cast lots? O_o <<just for my own personal curiosity, how many FarScape fans are in the CR?>> Over here. :) I haven't been able to watch more than one or two episodes, but that alone has gotten me hooked...Puppets, aliens, and Claudia Black. Three great tastes that taste great together. 8) <<Nothing like reading the CR with a cockney accent!>> Cor blimey, guv'nah, you're a toff! I got big ones, small ones, some as big as yer 'ead! Give 'em a twist, flick of the-- <KRFFT> --less than fresh feeling? Try new-- <KRRFFT> --10W-40, guaranteed to keep your engine running through the coldest-- <KRFFT> --dishpan hands with Palmolive! <shakes head> Never mind. Don't wanna know. <<I've just recently seen the sequel to Silence of the Lambs, "Hannibal", and I can't quite stop talking like the good Dr. Lecter.>> Welcome to my world. I haven't seen either movie (though I'd love to), but the accent kind of comes naturally. Which scares me to death, but it's cool, so... <shrug> <<I know that many people are probably not too thrilled about the possibility of a third Austin Powers film>> I actually kind of liked the second one...Austin himself made me want to castrate him with a belt sander, but the villains were cool. <<Wilek gets so funny when you mention girls around him.>> Not girls, just romance. ;) (Really, is there anything much more annoying? And I'm irked at the thought of mere hormonal cascades being able to somehow override the intellect. I've always thought that the entire point of sentience was to leave that behind...but then, I am an aberration. :P ) But hey, anything for a laugh. <leaps into the nearest lap, whosever's that is> DAHLING! 8D

Newcomers> Welcome to the CR, surrender your sanity, and here have a chainsaw, for the tentacles are breeding.

Tonic Shaker> <<I was always curious: Why on earth do you people represent Democrats as Donkeys and Republicans as Elephants?>> See http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mgop.html.

Lady Corax> <<I totally agree with you about the addictiveness of "Majora's Mask." My brother is absolutely hooked on the game! I've been waiting to play it once he's finished, but I have a feeling that won't be anytime soon...:)>> Settle in for a long wait; this game is neither short nor easy. If it weren't so much fun, it'd be absolutely grueling. O_o If you or your brother are in need of assistance, I'd be more than happy to provide. :) (BTW, you absolutely must experience the Zora Mask at least once in your life. It redefines the concept of cool.) <<Dang it, Wilek! You got that song in my head! ;)>> Oops. :}

Lynati> <<"Our main weapons are fear, Surprise, ruthlessness, and an almost fanatical devotion to the King of the Potato People.">> On second thought, we will not go to Z'ha'dum. It is a silly place. <<what, you had a quicksand box in your backyard, too?>> Nah, just a lot of heavy artillery. ;)

GXB> <<Okay, show of hands for everyone who is NOT watching the Superbowl, and couldn't care less who wins.>> Over here. Although it is almost amusing, the big deal that's made over it.

Coyote> <<Maybe not a Drag Queen ... but how about Queen of the Strip? Uh oh, that doesn't sound any better ... how about Baroness of the Blacktop? Nah, too cheesy ... ahh, I'll think of something!! ;)>> How bout Regina Via (Queen of the road)? <<Hm ... anyone else watch "TV Funhouse" in here?>> [Wilek falls, twitching violently and violently expelling blood from every orifice in his head.] Sorry. I saw that very episode, and I've yet to recover. Lobster necrophilia has that effect on me. <<click my name link if you dare ... ReBoot fans especially ... it's my new FFC entry, and I feel SOOOOOOOO dirty>> <clicks> I got an error message: "You don't have permission to access /xanacorp/BadTimeToReBoot.jpg on this server." [Wilek begins working his special weirdness on Mr. Disconnect, causing an onlooking Hannibal Lecter to blow chunks.]

Mandolin> <<Mom had to suffer through "Who Let the Dogs Out" blasted over the intercom Friday morning.>> I have what amounts to an allergic reaction whenever I hear that song. So far my casualty list is in the hundreds.

Green Baron> <<Well, this will be my last post until April, I imagine.>> :( Fare the well, and may you survive...

DJ> <<All of you are completely insane; you do know that, don't you?>> Isn't that the point? <blink> AHHH! NOODLE FISH!

Pistoff> [Dark light fills the CR as a hail of lightning and fire blights the land around it. Fault lines split open, disgorging terrifying altars built for the worship of arcane gods. Forty years of darkness and fire, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.] Nice welcome, ne? I had my climactic engineers prepare it, on the off chance that this ever happened. I'm very glad it turned out to be necessary. 8) A thousand welcomes back; we have suffered from a decided lack of crunchiness in here. >8) <<I have to wonder what's so special about John Wayne. I've seen some of his movies, and it seemed like I was watching the same character in all of them.>> He does need to be put in his place. There's something about him that, I don't know why, but it reminds me of Johnny Bravo. Something that makes me want to see their spirits completely broken...perhaps it's the combination of arrogance and flagrant disregard for etiquette--I can forgive either in moderation, but both combined get old *fast*...(By the way, you shall have to fill me in on the details of this bowel disruptor...hehehe) <<we could just acquire a couple of crates of 'em, go to Washington DC, and go monstering. >:D>> I am ever so glad I invested in those rapid prototyping devices...<MUHAHHAHA> (BTW, "monstering"? Sounds like fun... >8D )

Kit> <<Ally McBeal may be a dumb show most of the time, but its writers are correct to say finding your theme song is a great epiphany. :)>> Something intelligent being said on Ally McBeal...I guess even a blind pig finds a truffle occasionally. ;) <<they're still arguing over what kind of ceremony would be best for us. Doug and I hope they come to a compromise soon, if not we may just have to decide ourselves by flipping a coin. <grin>>> Let me do it. There'd be a high casualty list, but I can promise you that the survivors would be talking to their psychiatrists about it for years to come. 8) <<Some men find muscle mass on females attractive, some don't.>> Count me in the former category. There is this chick in The Cell... 8) <<You can't go wrong with a literal dickhead>> I *was* thinking of checking this comic out, but... O_O'

Todd> <<the "no commercial references" dictum.>> Was that put in place before or after Lex and Liz played in that Quake tournament? ;) <<Maybe it's time for the Professor to give his wheelchair a once-over and replace all the metal parts with plastic>> Seen the movie?

Doug> <<Todd is insane? I don't believe it. :)>> As if a sane person could stand to be around us for as long as he has. ;) <<Just the fact that he sees Willy Wonka as Satan is disturbing>> You didn't know? It's too divine. You didn't really think Veruca and the rest were "somewhere fine, and a little wiser for the experience"...? Did you honestly believe that, after having shown them all his top-secret experiments, he'd let those sandy little buttholes live long enough to sell those secrets to Mister Slugworth (the one we actually saw was Wonka's actor, but there was a real one out there)? He led them all to their respective dooms--showed them what they most wanted and let them destroy themselves--and no one was the wiser. THAT is the Willy Wonka that I admire and fully intend to read to my kids and educate them from. >8) (There's a whole essay on this somewhere on the Web that I will link to here if I ever find it again...) <<you need to post more, man. :)>> I couldn't agree more... O_o

Robby> <<Its kinda like remaking the Miracle Worker or Miracle on 34th street.>> Which I might find cool, if I'd ever heard of those movies. (I very much like remakes and reinterpretations...partially because I like things that tick off purists. hehe) <<He'd make a plan and he'd follow through, that's what Brian Boitano'd do...>> I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings!

Fire Storm> <<Do I destroy my children, or allow them to flourish, trading one species for another?>> How 'bout giving them their own planet, devoid of sentient life but replete with quickly-reproducing potential host animals, to play with? <<Thursday was dead in here, but then Wilek posts and the CR has been VERY busy since!>> I do bring the party with me. ;) <<I should be pissed that there was more genetic engineering done to my children than I thought, but I am strangely intrigued!>> They weren't from your hive, but I think you'd enjoy seeing the alterations anyhow. :) We're using them as guard dogs, basically; at least we will when we figure out how to install cybermechanical implants that won't dissolve due to their blood.

Aaron> <<I guess I'm the only person in the world who *wanted* to see a Manson/Burton Wonka.>> Finally someone else! 8D I was beginning to wonder if I was slightly abnormal...

Traveler> Welcome back. 8D <<Anyone else see the new "filler" commercial? The Legion of Doom Vs. The PowerPuff Girls? Remember the punch line? HOW are they getting this stuff past the censors???>> I wish I'd seen that commercial... O_o Transcript, s'il vous plait? ^_^

Dumlao X> <<maybe I should be the local TGS game guru here. Hell, no one else has the job :P>> I would be more than happy to be thine acolyte. :) My loyalties tend more to Nintendo than Sega, but I'm willing to give anyone a chance. ^_^

NukesGoBoom> I like your name. 8)

SOROW> <<At my party last night, one of the girls had brought a cake because it happened to be her birthday...and I dropped it face down on the floor before we started singing!>> Agghh! O_o The best way to handle such situations is to not leave any witnesses...<<And now my most deadly, and only, enemy is working at my store!>> <hands you a coil of piano wire> Have fun and send me photos. >;)

Spacebabie> Rash> Ack. O_o Hope it's nothing serious, and that it fades very soon...<flays off Sli Sludge's skin and tosses him to the dolls> <<until then how about some chocolate gargoyles?>> EEE! <devours as many dark chocolate ones as he can hold and saves the rest for later> ^_^
Wilek Nereus
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 09:12:02 AM
IP: proxy2.spaceproxy.com

Privileged and Confidential

Hello my little sweetie pie! How are you? The dogs and I are OK!
Can you do the following before we go away:
check the date of your last day of school
check to see when the courses start that you hope to take in the summer make sure that you pack everything that you need, including nice dress and shoes - I have your deodorant.
Now for the reason behind question number 1. Would you like to go and see Lion King with my friend and her daughter? If so, would like to try and arrange tickets before we leave - would probably go on a Saturday or Sunday after you have finished exams etc.
Take care, be prepared and will see you on Thursday afternoon.
PS - you didn't tell me gran called last week.


AAAAAHHHH!!!!! THAT IS MY DAD!!!!! ISN'T THAT THE SWEETEST THING YOU HAVE EVER SEEN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
GADS... he is great...
drives me batty but.. he is great.. he has my deoderant.. :P
:D
now you know where I get it from :D

just thought I'd share..

*gathers all the CR members around her whispers that she had an idea... is there anyone here who would be interested in friendship bracelets?? I make them and .. if anyone wanted one.. I.. would make one and mail it out.. just let me know.. I need posty addresses but.. send them to my email so all the nasty lurkers don't come by and know where you all live ;)*

it was just an idea..

anyway.. that's about it for now.

love always,
lain, wrestling with the Angel - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 02:28:53 AM
IP: dynrez216-32115.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Gside - I was gone all yesterday, and last night I had to catch up on my mail and... Other Things. Today has been a Charlie Fox from beggining to end. To quote Satan, "I do not wish to discuss it." 8 P ...Plus, I'm currently trying to cope with being three weeks behind on one mod, which I've just found out wasn't what I thought it was. I'm a busy little bee...
Gunjack "Does this look infectious?" Valentine
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 01:36:16 AM
IP: 216-146-184-195.bwn.net

I have housing for next year. First floor, so I don't have to haul anything up and down stairs at move in/out.

New TGS: Very nice once again. Nothing amazing, but it didn't seem to want to be, just a little break before things get back to business. As CtB seems to have confirmed.

Calíope> <<you know your basicaly talking to yourself there, dont ya?>>: Pretty much, though if I could remember what I said, I might try to explain it a little.
<<why does one need a special reason to be hyper and happy>>: One doesn't. It's just that with the added hyper compounded on your standard overzealous hyper, people start to ponder just what it is that you're smoking.

Kirshanta> <<yes, they do (go boom I mean)>>: Actually, I'm pretty sure there are a whole bunch of other sounds associated with nukes, but boom does seem to make a nice summation of the effect.

Fire Storm> <<how much of that sites anime/magna do you have already downloaded?>>: I'm not sure how much of my stuff is from there, but I currently have El Hazard 1-26+OAV1, Flame of Recca 1-42, Goldenboy1-6, Kare Kano 1-18 (thanks to BBoCS), a few Nadesico+movie, Mononoke subbed, Ranma season 1-season 5 17, s5 19, OAVs 1, 3, 6-10, and movie, Rurouni Kenshin 1-12, Slayers 1-26, a couple F3 and Dragon Pink, and some various lone episodes I picked up while scour was still working. That's somewhere around 14 gigs. I think I'll finish off the site's Ranma before I work on any of its other stuff.
<<maybe we should do a "divide and conquer," then either ICQ or snail-mail CD's to each other>>: Well, ICQ (or AIM) is out because of that !@$#%^*!@#$% 140meg limit Rutgers puts on me. And are CDs really worth it for the somewhat low quality we're getting? Plus, would you trust me with your address (return of evil laugh).
<<Have you noticed that they reset their download limit about every 60-0 minutes?>>: I knew it regenerates somehow, but I never bothered to find out how quickly or when. It would probably make things easier for me if I did.

Wilek> <<Later...but not much later I hope>>: Sure. We believe you.

Hey, Gunjack. You took the test, you said you would be back. Yet you haven't posted anything in two days. What's up this time?

Condolences to the friends and family of Ms. Spengler.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 01:13:44 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

James: It's not a game! Use the Hero Machine link Firestorm gave, load those number sequences, and you'll get some very cool pictures.

More tomorrow, must sleep now.
Kit
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 01:00:40 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.228.dlls.grid.net

Apologies for the double post ...

Jannie: Okay, just out of curiosity ... how long did it take for Michael to complete *all* his Eagle requirements? (If I asked already, I apologize ... short memory. :) Oh, and pass along my congratulations, as a former Scout who came one troop short of becoming an Eagle (literally ... my last few years in the Scouts were spent languishing at Life in a troop that met the same night the band practiced ... guess what lost. :( )
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:44:13 AM
IP: 216.28.101.161

**enters quietly**

Okay, I was gonna wait until later this week to post on the creative process behind this ep, but ... what the hell.

First off, this ep had a twofold purpose: one was as a blatant satire of the processes that brought about most of the theme parks in existence today (even the title ... "The Happiest Place on Earth," if you'll recall, was an advertising slogan for Disneyland waaaaaay back when). The other was as a lighthearted change-of-pace from the heavy storylines that are dominating the season, and will dominate it further down the line. Don't try to fit it into the predominant storylines ... it won't work and will just give you a migraine. It has enough connection to them to warrant being in the season, but is actually intended to be a change of pace.

Truth be told, as I was writing it, it started feeling less like a Gargoyles ep and more like Gargoyles-as-done-by-Monty Python ... for some reason a bit of Python-ish feel started coming through (and there was much rejoicing (yay) ;), or at least it was for me. Either that ... or I was hallucinating.

Anyway, I hope this gives a bit better of perspective on the story. Thanks to all those who *did* indeed like it ... ya got the joke. :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:45:02 PM
IP: 216.28.101.161

**Mandi delurks, looking tired.**

Hi all... don't have very happy news to import.

A month ago, someone posted a message to a fanfic board I frequent with the news that Traci Spengler, a fic author who was one of the regulars, had been in a car accident and was in a coma. I didn't know her that well - mostly from her posts on the board - but I was shocked anyway. Yesterday, we got news that she was improving. Today, however, we found out she was dead.

You know, I hear all the talk about how the Internet depersonalizes human communication, how we're eliminating our connections to others... and things like this lead me to think that's a load of bullshit. I never met Traci face to face, and I found about her death from a one-line e-mail from her best friend - but that hit me like a ton of bricks. Because now, I will NEVER get the chance to meet her face to face. I will never get to hear her explanation for that "pseudopod" in-joke. I will never get into a discussion of silly fanfic cliches with her again.

I'm posting this here because it made me realize that I've made some really good friends in this CR over the years. I'm grateful to have the chance to meet some of you in person, and grateful to have met all of you, period. I haven't been that active in the CR recently, but I do cherish the friendships I've made.

I just wanted to say that now while I have the opportunity. Thank you, guys - thank you for being here.
Mandolin
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:40:00 PM
IP: 144.175.21.16

Doug and all the others> Stop your blasted number games please
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
Token sane guy
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:10:30 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-18-224.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Fire Storm> Hero Machine> <beatific worship> This...is so...BRILLIANT!!! 8D The downside: Now I have this huge text file sitting on my hard disk and my next real post will be an even longer time in coming. :P Until then, amuse yourselves with the following:

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Super-HeroBlasterMale*Wilek Nereus (Human/Joyride)*Skin:1,0,0,0,50,80,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:2,0,0,0,0,75,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:2,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:5,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:5,0,0,0,0,75,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,0,40,70,90,0,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Undershirt:1,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:12,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Leggings:5,0,0,0,77,99,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:5,0,40,70,90,0,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Footwear:10,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Coat:9,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:13,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:12,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,20,0,0,0,100;Back:1,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,40,70,90,0,100;#

Super-HeroBlasterFemale*Miriam Baxter*Skin:1,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:5,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Nose:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:3,0,0,0,77,99,100,0,0,0,77,99,100;Mask:18,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Hair:11,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:19,75,0,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:20,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:12,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:8,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:27,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,80,80,100;Weapon-rt:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Later...but not much later I hope... :)
Wilek
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:04:54 PM
IP: proxy1.spaceproxy.com

I recall Elton John performing with Guns 'N Roses at the Grammys a few years ago, so him teaming up with Eminem doesn't sound too improbable. Also, perhaps one of the goals there is to have Elton help tone down things a little, the same way the Oscars put "Blame Canada" into Robin Williams' hands.

I watched "The Truman Show" last night on NBC. Hadn't seen it when it was originally in theaters... gotta give Jim Carrey two thumbs up. Best performance I've seen him give, including "The Grinch." The movie also seemed to have a weird (and kind of scary) added dimension to it now, with the recent popularity of "reality" TV shows like "Survivor" and "Temptation Island."

** WARNING - TGS SPOILERS AHEAD **

Well, first, I have to say I'm liking the shortness of the episodes if only for the fact that it means I can keep up with the stories despite being insanely busy with work and The Gathering. I read the latest story this morning in less than 15 minutes. That said... I think if the goal this season has been to produce stories that read with the same pacing as a half-hour show, I think there's defintely still some room left that could be used for expansion of the plot and the characters. This latest story again felt like the tape was on fast-forward. The recycled feeling of the plot didn't help, either. Taro didn't make for a very threatening villian, even factoring in the robotic ninjas hed had to back him up (Cowabunga, dude!). The ease with which he was able to capture and subdue the various gargoyles and mutates (even Demona) send the believability quotient dropping significantly, as well.

For the record, though, there were some things I liked. The interplay between Elisa and Demona, for instance... though I would have loved seeing it played out more. I noted that Demona still hides behind that "don't think this changes things, detective" line, too... though I'd have to suspect by now that even she's starting to realize she's not really fooling anyone. And overall, the writing was pretty good, as well... which again makes the quick pacing of the story frustrating. The potential was clearly there to flesh things out had reading time not held such a high degree of consideration.

Reading TGS so far this season has been rather like dining at an expensive five-star restaurant. You arrive expecting great things, and while the menu doesn't disappoint in taste, you go away still feeling hungry because the portions are so small. So I'll close my comments this week by paraphrasing Dicken's Oliver: "Please sir, may I have some more?"

** END TGS SPOILERS **


Patrick Toman
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:03:50 PM
IP: ac824ca6.ipt.aol.com

Greetings all...

Heromachine - This is a bit addictive! <grins> As for that ElisaMaza, I did some tweeking, and I think this looks better:

Super-HeroBlasterFemale*ElisaMaza*Skin:1,0,35,0,10,25,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:3,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:6,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:18,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:10,0,0,0,77,99,100,0,0,0,77,99,100;Footwear:11,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Weapon-lft:4,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

DOUG - Love the views of the you, Kit and the Ravens! Here's a little blast from the past here for you:

Big Jake, Biker with a Grudge Against Thailog -
Super-HeroBlasterMale*Big Jake*Skin:1,50,0,13,25,30,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:2,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:4,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:12,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:6,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:5,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:5,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:11,75,0,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:5,0,70,60,0,90,100,0,20,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:3,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,30,0,50,80,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:12,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Leggings:3,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,10,70,90,0,100;Overleggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:1,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:10,0,20,30,50,87,100,0,20,30,50,87,100;Coat:9,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:13,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:14,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Ace, Big Jake's Mechanic & Backup -
Super-HeroBlasterFemale*Ace*Skin:1,10,0,13,25,30,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:10,0,30,60,0,90,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:7,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:5,50,0,13,25,30,100,50,0,13,25,30,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:11,0,20,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:5,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Overshirt:1,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:6,0,70,60,0,90,100,0,30,0,50,80,100;Pants:15,0,30,60,0,90,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:6,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,30,0,50,80,100;Coat:6,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:24,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:20,0,40,70,90,0,100,0,0,0,77,99,100;Weapon-rt:26,0,20,0,0,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Hope you enjoy! Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 10:55:48 PM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

My, my. I haven't figured out who sent me the crush messege, but I already know two guys have a crushes on me. And one of them engaged at that! My poor crushed ego/self esteem is coming back to life! :)

Yes, I know having a signifigant other isn't everything, but when you're young, it's nice to have someone to care about and snuggle up to.

Anybody here heard of the comic strip "Zits"? It's about a 15-year-old high school freshman named Jeremy and his life as a teenager and trying to have a life while still clinging to childhood(or something like that). Anyway there's this couple that Jeremey knows. Theoretically they're two different people, Rich and Amy. But they're seen attached at the hip all the time and they're always talking about how much closer they want to be, so they're peers call them RichandAmy.

I don't think I want to have a relationship quite like theirs(I'd feel sufficated after a point), but I'd like to just have someone to be with and talk to about stuff. And of course snuggling is always a plus. ^_^

God, now I feel like watching "Bed of Roses". :P The woman in that movie (forget her name) I can relate to. Wanting love, but not really sure if I deserve it. Always keeping a distance between ppl and me. Oh yeah. I can REALLY relate to that. O.o
Mary Flanders
Monday, February 12, 2001 10:40:37 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I mean Hero Machine!
Anonymous
Monday, February 12, 2001 10:02:30 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.2.dlls.grid.net

Well, well. Some Gargs characters can be made on Hero Maker. :)

Super-HeroMartial-ArtistMale*David Xanatos*Skin:1,0,30,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Face:4,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shirt:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:7,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:8,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,40,0,0,100,100;Coat:13,0,50,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shield:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Super-HeroBlasterFemale*Elisa Maza*Skin:1,0,60,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:3,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:19,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:6,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:4,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:13,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:12,0,0,0,77,99,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:22,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Weapon-lft:2,0,50,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Enjoy!
Anonymous
Monday, February 12, 2001 10:01:57 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.2.dlls.grid.net

Tim:
<<a Strom Thurmond/Dr. Dre duet>> I would pay good money to see that!

I hope that everyone realizes that the Republicans are one heartbeat away from losing the Senate. If 98 year old Thurmond dies or retires before 2002, the governor of SC, a Democrat, would choose a Democrat to replace him.
One of the many reasons I find politics so amusing. :)
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I'm not the kind of person who readily expresses emotion, but after reading posts from lain, SOROW, and Mary I feel like doing something I hardly ever do: *HUGS*
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Well, I just wanted to say 'hi' and assure everyone that I hadn't been eaten by a pack of rabid echidnas.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:37:38 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-70-193.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

James: Spammer? What do you mean? I demand you explain what action of mine you regard as spam! :)
Doug
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:29:58 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.2.dlls.grid.net

Just trying to avoid homework. I'm such a procrastinator.

Some interesting comments on this weeks story. While I agree with some points that Ed made, I would point out that writing anything and in particular a TGS story is always a bit of a gamble. There are few guarentees what will work and what won't. There have been story elements I thought would never work in a million years and to my error in judgement worked out beautifully. The flipside is also true, there have been story arcs I thought would be dead on and didn't come off quite right. One thing I do know is that the writes on the TGS staff do give it there all. And you never know how well a story does until it's read and reviewed.

For my two cents, the 'capture-the-gargoyle-alive' story has been run into cliche-dom. It's hard to feel a sense of jeopardy for the clan when it is just another plot that they have to spring. Much of the story seemed to hinge on that jeopardy: Demona's assistance, the villain's menace, the resolution at the end. But I don't know if that is something that could have been fixed. Too many preceding episodes have the same setup and resolution. It did the best with the material.

I try not to comment too much, because I still have some outlines in there I think. Conflict of interest. But if you enjoyed the story, that is what is important.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:23:33 PM
IP: mid-tgn-ngf-vty65.as.wcom.net

SJ> Darn right! Bring back Shawn Michaels!!! **grins** :)

Coyote> Oh my goodness! You did such a WONDERFUL job on the new TGS! I love it...the humor was nice, and I loved the ending, and the character interaction (Demona and Elisa, so great!). Good job! :)
Lady Corax
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:21:58 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Well, as I sit here watching Monday Night Raw, I notice that HHH is on the TV screen about to give an interview, so I have a good 20 minutes to kill, so I might as well post.
I'm sorry, he's a good worker, but what a bore! Bring back Shawn Michaels NOW!!!

***TGS SPOILERS***

Gee, I sure wish that this episode had more development.

Actually, I didn't read the fic, I just like going on the bandwagon.

***END TGS SPOILERS***

Eminem & Elton: I love this. They're cute together. Forget Puffy and J-Lo (especially since it looks as if Puffy is going to the pokey-poke), I vote these two as the power couple of 2001! It is rather odd, though, that Eminem is gonna do a duet with him, on account of Elton being the way he is. I didn't think that Marshall was too fond of Elton's "kind of people". It's good to see the lad open up his mind!

Mary: Well, I have a crush on you, as I'm sure most of the eligible men in the room do, but I didn't send you that email. I'm thinking Wilek did it.
Actually, I'm only saying this to poke fun. Wilek gets so funny when you mention girls around him. They don't have cooties, bro! ;)

Well, some of them do, but they have pills for that now.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:16:12 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

IT'S THE SIGN OF THE APOCALYSE! START HOARDING! BUILD BOMB SHELTERS! GRAB YOUR GUNS. STOCKPILE SEVERAL MONTHS WORTH OF FOOD,WATER, AMMUNITION, AND OTHER ESSENTIALS!

The National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences announced Friday that the controversial, acid-tongued rapper and Grammy nominee will indeed perform at this month's 43rd Annual Awards.

But that's not the surprising part.

Ther have been rumors EMINEM may sing his psycho-fan ballad "Stan" in a duet with Elton John.

John has previously praised Eminem's album, calling it "intelligent, hard-core stuff."

"As far as Elton John liking my shit, I think it's beautiful," Slim Shady said. "I think he gets the joke, and I respect him as an artist."

Personnally I think this would be pretty cool. But the chance of something like this happening is roughly equivelent to that of a Strom Thurmond/Dr. Dre duet.

Now where are those MREs?
Tim
Monday, February 12, 2001 08:51:52 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Doug> Spammer :(
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 08:49:34 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-18-224.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

More Hero Machine Ravens:
Shauna- FantasyHumanFemale*Shauna*Skin:1,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,30,0,50,80,100;Face:4,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:9,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shirt:11,0,40,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:10,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,70,60,0,90,100;Gloves:4,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:7,0,0,0,0,75,100,0,20,0,0,0,100;Footwear:4,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon:11,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,0,30,72,0,100;Shield:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Back:7,0,0,0,77,99,100,0,0,30,72,0,100;#

Stephanie- Super-HeroMartial-ArtistFemale*Stephanie*Skin:1,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Face:7,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:9,0,0,0,0,75,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:4,0,30,60,0,90,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:30,0,0,0,77,99,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:3,0,40,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:1,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:14,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Gloves:8,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:7,0,50,0,80,80,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Pants:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:2,0,50,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon:8,0,50,0,0,0,100,10,0,13,25,30,100;Shield:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Keith- Super-HeroMartial-ArtistMale*Keith*Skin:1,0,30,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Face:4,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:6,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shirt:4,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:7,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:1,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:17,0,40,0,0,100,100,10,0,13,25,30,100;Pants:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:3,0,0,0,0,75,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Coat:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon:8,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,77,99,100;Back:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shield:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Jammer- uper-HeroMartial-ArtistMale*Jammer*Skin:1,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Face:7,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,10,70,90,0,100;Mask:9,0,0,0,77,99,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:1,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shirt:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:6,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Leggings:7,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:1,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:17,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,20,0,0,0,100;Pants:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:1,0,35,0,10,25,100,0,0,30,72,0,100;Coat:1,0,0,0,0,75,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:3,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon:1,0,50,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,77,99,100;Back:1,0,40,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Shield:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Too bad this thing can't really make Gargs yet. :(

Mary: Well, I must confess, I do have a small crush on you. :) But it wasn't me who sent that e-mail. <sees Kit frowning in his direction> I swear! It wasn't me!!! <panicks and runs out>
Doug
Monday, February 12, 2001 08:22:23 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.42.dlls.grid.net

Lynati>Well, I did put my e-mail address out there for the world to see. But I still suspect someone in here did it. If not, than color me happy. :)
Mary Flanders
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:59:32 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Mary : I asked for your e-mail, but sent NO mail of any kind. (It's that you can't talk to a person on IM without having an e-mail address to find them by.) maybe I just shoulda stayed queit...
Lynati
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:55:25 PM
IP: 207.221.70.90

Ok, here's something I find rather interesting. About a half hour ago I found in my e-mail a letter from Crushlink.com stating that someone has a crush on me. Now, I recall giving my e-mail address in here during my rant of emotional instability but I forget to whom. I know _someone_ in here is the guilty party. ;P I want to know who because I can't find out on the website. The only way I could is if I list all the ppl I have a crush on and their e-mail addresses and have Crush send THEM an e-mail stating THEY have someone who has a crush on them. I can't do it because I don't have anyone that I have a crush on. So come on. 'Fess up. Who did it?
Mary Flanders
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:52:23 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Just dropping in with a few pictures from Michael's Eagle Ceremony :) These are from the digital camera. I'll have more after getting them back from development and scan them.
Jannie - [<---- Eagle Ceremony pics :)]
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:44:37 PM
IP: 209.83.228.86

DPH insanely laughs as he enters the CR enter.

**WARNING: VIOLENCE AGAINST CR VILLAINS**
DPH quickly rounds up DC, Kenny the CR lawyer, and JRSU. "What I am gonna put you through is worse than death for what happened at work today." DPH teleports them to his own private universe. "In this universe, you can't die." All the CR villains breathe a sigh of relief. "But it does not mean you can not be continiously tortured." Suddenly a small army of soliders arrive: some carry sonic cannons, some carry flame throwers, some carry machine guns, and some carry lethal non-projectile weapons. This small army starts attacking the CR villains. "Did I mention that if this small army lets any of you villains take a break from torture, the entire small army has a fate worse than the CR villains?"
**end Torture Against CR villains for now, to be concluded at the end of the post**

**WORK RELATED**
As you can guess, something happened at work that really made me MAD. I could not go to Orientation today because of the freakin' drug test results were not back. So I have to wait another FREAKIN week. What makes the situation worse is that earlier on Thursday, the HR person walked right behind me and did not say a word. Of all the people at orientation only 4 (including myself) were from this plant (the company has 2 plants). Sheesh, he could have gotten to me first thing in the morning and I would have gladly took the drug test ASAP. I am convinced that DC slowed down the background check, Kenny the CR lawyer insisted the rules were properly enforced THIS TIME, and JRSU just knew how mad it would make me.

I hope you guys in the other don't mind that I plan on doing something similiar to your 'Mall of America' subplot. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
**END WORK RELATED**

**TGS SPOILERS**
Ok. I will make a brief point. I am glad to see Demona and Elisa forced to work together.
**END TGS SPOILERS**

NukesGoBoom - you're a non-conformist in some sense, right? Otherwise, you don't belong in this room. Just joking.

jannie - good thoughts.

1+1=3

**continue VIOLENCE AGAINST CR VILLAINS**
DPH teleports back into his private universe to find 3 practically dead (completely burned, bullet filled, bleeding) carcasses. "Please let us die so we can recover. The pain is incredible." DPH teleports the 3 practically dead carcasses into the CR room.
**END VIOLENCE AGAINST CR VILLAINS**
Hmm, I thought it was about time someone gave DC torture instead of death.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:32:00 PM
IP: max1-6.cwy.cei.net

* ONE OR TWO SPOILERS CONTAINED *

SPACEBABIE - Hmm.... Interesting comment about the parallel between Rogue's change after draining Sabretooth and Mikaella's change after draining Lexington. I know that I didn't have Rogue consciously in mind when I wrote that scene in "Thicker than Blood" - it was based more on my simply wondering what happens to a vampire that drinks a gargoyle's blood. Of course, the same thing did happen to Rogue occasionally on the FOX cartoon, and maybe it had lodged in my subconscious memories. Hard to say.

(While I liked that scene, by the way, I did find myself thinking that the physical side-effects of her draining abilities are a bit inconsistent with Rogue. After all, when she drained Nightcrawler some episodes earlier, she didn't promptly turn blue and furry).

Speaking of vampires, I'm currently reading "The Truth" by Terry Pratchett (his latest Discworld book) and there are some very funny scenes in it involving a vampire photographer who keeps on having problems with his camera's flashbulb. Problems as in the burst of light from the flashbulb often turns him to dust and then they have to resuscitate him. It's a great read, and I highly recommend it to everyone in the comment room (if you haven't started reading it already, that is).

* SPOILERS-OF-A-SORT END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, February 12, 2001 07:03:38 PM
IP: 216.87.46.51.dialup-stl.primary.net

Greg Xanatos >> If your story's as good as you say it is, I'll glide down and kiss you...

**Kirshanta freezes in mid-growl as the sun comes up and interrups her (how dare he!!)***
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 05:23:04 PM
IP: g67-157.citenet.net

Gside: Say... how much of that sites anime/magna do you have already downloaded?
Hell, maybe we should do a "divide and conquer," then either ICQ or snail-mail CD's to each other.
Just a thought.
Have you noticed that they reset their download limit about every 60-0 minutes?
Or maybe it does it by bandwidth. Any thoughts on this?


Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Monday, February 12, 2001 05:19:45 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Kirshanta> Well, hopefully you'll like next week's. I wrote and plotted it, and am very excited by it. I think it will give you more of what you want to see.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, February 12, 2001 05:15:04 PM
IP: dialin-750-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

** Kirshanta enters, fangs shining in the moonlight as she glides over to Ed, laughing delicately. Landing next to him, she shakes her head ***

Now now ED > You can't have everything. I thought you said last week you were quite happy with the non-detail style they are going with now. What happened?? Someone stepped on your tail??
Are you now finding out that the no-details mode is actually quite frustrating at times - that plot lines are being invented out of the blue while the more important issues are being cast aside?
Are you frowning in consternation over the apparent lack of continuity amongst the clan - the character development that seems to have gone astray?
Are you wondering why everyone seems to have turned into a parody of themselves - why Goliath has no backbone except toward Xanatos - why Elisa seems to be mad at the world - why Demona seems to have turned into a fanged Jim Carey?
Details my dear Ed, details. They are no more.

Let us observe a moment of silence for the wonderful details, the amazing subtility that have been sacrificed on the altar of shorter stories, for the sake of destroying history... What a sad day this is.

Seriously though - TGS staff, please answer this: Are you guys on a time limit or a page limit - like are you not allowed to write more than 15 pages? Does the story HAVE to be told in a 30 minute-minus the commercials episode? I mean - come on - we can all admit that the depth of the characters is missing - due in large part to the lack of details within a scene.

This week's episode is better in certain respects (details) but lousy in others - plot. Like WHAT???
But thank you for the Alex reference and a couple of other character references (Thailog - even though the mention of his name was weak within the plotline)

Hey Nukes Baby >> Don't worry about how much is left. If you can manage to read two in an hour and a half, that means you read about as fast as I do - It took me only a couple of weeks to get up to speed and I was behind in each of the series (Pendragon - Dark Ages - Gargoyles - TimeDancer).
Trust me sweetheart ** ruffles his hair with a four-fingered hand *** its worth it.

Later
** Unfurls her silver wings and takes off, her howl resounding in the night ***


Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 05:11:22 PM
IP: g67-157.citenet.net

Greg: I'm looking forward to reading it! :)

GARGOYLES: 'THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH'

***Correction, includes spoilers***

Correction: Where I said in the penultimate paragraph that a nice point was 'Demona still having fun with Demona', I mean having fun with 'Goliath' - as witnessed in her "old you" line in particular at Destine Manor, more Demonaesque than Demona has been in a long while.
Ed
Monday, February 12, 2001 04:29:35 PM
IP: aca24eda.ipt.aol.com

Ed> Killing humans is bad for their PR
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 04:29:13 PM
IP: adsl-64-165-18-224.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

Hey guys its me again (nukes) ;) Just wanted to say that i just finished another time dancer story, The Dance, and thought it was great. yes, I know that i have a looooong way to go before I catch up with where presently everyone is, but I view it as an adventure to be expericenced rather than a job. I read about 2 a day with takes me about an hour and a half, so im goin pretty good. Im kinda excited about next week, i get febuary vacation (im a junior in highschool) and that it will be my birthday too (feb.20) ill be 17. I cant wait, they promised light homework, but since im in all AP classes i know thats at least a few hours worth (groan!). Anyway, i was wondering if anyone here plays diablo 2 or starcraft-brood war. I play those 2 alot, and if so maybe we could play a game or somethin'. Do you guys have a channel you meet in? My account name is -Gargoyles- ( yeah, i know, original :P) It includes the -'s , its not just Gargoyles. So, whisper me if your on or something and lets play :) Well, its 4 alredy and i have LOTS of homework. Oh, by the way, Im sure you guys have aol instant messenger screens names or somthing like that. Would you give me them? Mine is NukesGoBoom. Thanks!
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo]
CT
Monday, February 12, 2001 03:08:44 PM
IP: c1428979-a.blfld1.ct.home.com

Ed> Hopefully next week's story will be more to your liking. I know it's one that I for one am extremely proud of. I can't say any more, but I have a really good feeling about it.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:27:08 PM
IP: dialin-1169-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

GARGOYLES: ‘THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH’

***Comments and Spoilers***

All a bit of a disappointment really. It started out as yet another Trio expose with lots of Lexington, and then looked like a run-through for Goliath… then for Demona and Elisa… but then started to get into Taro, and finally ended up doing the lowdown on Sharon. Touching upon the vulnerability of the homeless, Talon and the gang as it did so, but never really looking very closely at that either. I didn’t really see the focus behind these rambling exposes of characters, nor did I see any particular thematic unity between the scenes. Taro was revealed rather early, leaving the ‘twists’ as the gang hunted for villains lacking any apparent purpose. Especially since these twists were so jarringly introduced – the mention of Thailog seemed especially weak. And Taro, a villain who held little charm for me in his debut, was similarly uninteresting now. The jarring flashback seemed to lack something.

The fact that the ninjas were robots was a tedious cliché which didn’t explain in the slightest why extremely versatile and powerful machine could be defeated by the guys ‘not holding back’. Fighting for their freedom and possibly their lives, why on earth would the guys hold back anyway? And why incidentally, did Elisa bring along in tow the weakest of the clan – Graeme and Arianna – leaving behind Sata, Hudson, Delilah et al? Not exactly a great strategic move one would have thought. I can’t believe Sata would have stood for it.

The dialogue had highs (some of Demona and Goliath’s interaction, the Trio). It also had some lows – the characters slipped from sounding particularly like themselves at times, and ‘you’re right of course’ was repeated twice in the first two scenes for no particular effect that I could see. Potentially, this could have been good. Maybe if it focused on the vulnerability of all those involved – Taro to the Yakuza, Demona to Thailog, everybody to the ninjas, the homeless, the Labyrinth clan. The happiest place on earth thing was very apologetically slipped in at the end. And there was no real dramatic weighting given to the gradual loss of the clan members. Partly because it was clear so early on that it was only Taro so the story never seemed to press any particular urgency.

We got some interesting Demona material. It’s still the sugar and spice Demona of last season and still far less confrontational than there was potential for her to be; but at least there’s no Angela and Andrea material. For the time being at least, Demona’s stretching her wings. The season still lacks Goliath’s backbone. Last week’s episode was great without him, but especially since less characters seem to be used, Goliath ought to be the sticking point again.

A few nice points. Alexander becoming less interested in magic. The Yakuza are still at large. Demona still having fun with Demona. Elisa winding up Demona. Come to that, this episode completely undermined the character of Demona making her an object of comedy of comedy on several occasions. If the writers don’t take the character seriously as a character on a rocky road to reform, why should anybody else?

All things considered, I was quite disappointed – especially considering the talents of Coyote and Jonathan were behind it, both of whom have produced some great stuff for TGS in the past and haven’t seemed to flock the writing scene of late. But as far as the season so far goes – ‘THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH’...
"you are the Weakest Link. Goodbye!"
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:14:24 PM
IP: ac800e8a.ipt.aol.com

damnit it didn't work! let's try that again.
Mary
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:00:42 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*enters all excitedly*

OH MY GOD!!! I found a great pic of InuYasha as a human from the anime!!!!!! He's such a HOTTIE!!!! *swoons*

Click my name for the pic!!!!
Mary Flanders
Monday, February 12, 2001 01:58:58 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

TGS SPOILERS

Interesting development - nice return of a former villain, as soupy and devoid of personality as he was.

The detail was much better - if rushed somewhat. But, bearing in mind that the writers are now composing half hour shows and not epic stories, it was ok.

I think this was sort of a break from routine, I mean not much tied in with any other plot lines - except maybe the Demona-Elisa thing and the spell that would have grave consequences for everyone - wonder what that's all about.

Anyway - I'll wait for everyone else's spoilers - that's what maskes the best debates.
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 01:04:05 PM
IP: g67-157.citenet.net

** Kirshanta enters, her eyes roaming the room for lain. She spots her huddled in a corner and walks over, her talons clicking on the CR floor. Gently, she reaches out and wraps a silver wing around lain's shoulders. ***

lain >> There are no words that can help you. But i can offer you a wing to cry on whenever you need it...

NukesGoBoom >> Welcome - as I was told when I first landed. Check your sanity at the door. (A truer statement was never spoken)
And by the way - yes, they do (go boom I mean)

Lady Mistic < I know and understand that you cannot post a link for every new pic. But how about updating the picture gallery. Some of these new pics are really great. It would be nice to have access to them all the time.

Ok - I'm off to read the new TGS. Spoilers to come...
Kirshanta - [Kirshanta@yahoo.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 12:37:28 PM
IP: g67-157.citenet.net

Yep that episode was good. I won't do spoilers but I liked the whole thing yes :)
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 11:13:29 AM
IP: h2odam.sdccd.cc.ca.us

Caliope>(hugged) TGS> I am gonna read it as of now
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Monday, February 12, 2001 10:48:27 AM
IP: h2odam.sdccd.cc.ca.us

Hey guys!!!! * ^_~ *

Taleweaver> *blinx*....duh! you ARE a genius!!!! lol Thanx so very much!!! *HUGZ* ^_^

Gside> <<techno-babble>> lol you know your basicaly talking to yourself there, dont ya? ;) <<And is three out of five all that bad? >> lol those are excelent numbers dear, proabably three times better then most guys I know :P

Emambu> <<you seemed hyper in your last post, even by your standards. Any special reason?>> lol why does one need a special reason to be hyper and happy, huh? And if you did, in my case it would'nt make a difference, I get happy over tiny miniature pastries! Arent they cute!??!?! :P

Mary> <<I don't know how to act normal and I'm completely incompetant.>> hey, calm down girl! You are NOT incompetant and I'm sure the reason I like you is that your NOT normal, normal is just so over-rated. Besides, what is normal anyways, if you think about it, everyone's diffetent or wierd in some way which in turn makes normal wierd! So dont worry about it <<I want to go to college right now and just grow up. >:( But I'd probably fail at that according to my parents with my computer and anime obsessions.>> lol hey, I'm doning just fine in college with MY anime and comp obsessions, so you'll do fine too, just choose something to study which you love doing and are good at, and that way not only will you be happy studing (and eventualy working), you'll meet lots of ppl who will have similar interests and like you for who you are. Ok? Be happy! Thats an order!!! ^_^ Oh, and about writing, it's an old world already dear, and to quote BNL, "Its all been done", but even if you write about something someone else has, you just have to make it your own, add your own twist, think of an interesting way of telling your tale, and add a little bit of yourself to it too, cuz theres no one like you anywear, so it'll definitly make it unique ;) And dont worry, you'll be fine *HUGZ*:)

Gunjack> <<Fortunately, Lain explained most of the confusing parts >> lol you cheeted then!!! :P <<Which means I have to watch it AGAIN, so I can catch all the stuff I missed. No complaints there.>> lol yeah, poor you :P I dont think I've seen the whole series, but I pretty much know what happens, and it is easyer I supose if someone helps you understand, my brother is not to big on simbolism and hidden meanings either :P <<..the family dinners were akward, but the PJs were just cute... ^_^ ...Unless I missed something...>> Well, maybe its my latin back grownd working on it or my general chattiness, but those diners were just too dang quiet and still and scary! And the teddy PJ's?! Yeah, arent Barny and Teletubies suposed to be cute?! Yet you cant tell me THEY'RE not scary!!!! :P

Winterwolf> <<Wow you really are in an extra hyper mood! **HUGZ** I have to ask are you in love Cali?>> lol oy! Again, why is it one needs a reason to be hyper! Just happy for the sake of being happy right now, it happens to me sometimes, I just dont know why I get so happy, but I never complain! :P <<How can I survive without a Cali fix? >> lol down right imposible, so sit! and stay! (if any more doggie references can be made) :P <<I'd be in the doghouse so to speak if
ya leashed me! Mrs. Winterwolf, as Emambu likes to call her, would not approve. Though I got a laugh from the idea.>> lol well, whatever works!!! :P <roswell> There wont BE a roswell today, they're giving some dumb wedding Valentine's day thing! *pouts* oh well, next week tho :P

Errr, I gotta go, I'm going to dich my Art History class and go out with my girlfriends! Its been awhile since we had a girls night out and its about time we fixed that! :P Bye! *HUGZ all and skips on out of the room* Ta ta!!!!
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:31:40 AM
IP: 136.145.83.175

My hamstring has healed. I feel fine not depressed,no more injuries...only thing that is wrong is this rash. That is on my chest,left arm,shoulders and neck. I dont know If I'm allergic to something or if it is possible to get hives from stress. All I want to do is fill up the tub with anti itch lotion and soak.

Mary,Lain,And Sorrow I hope everything goes well with you, until then how about some chocolate gargoyles? I have milk chocolate,dark chocolate,mint chocolate,orange chocolate, and rasberry chocolate.

Hero machine. It is fun but am I the only who see's a simularity between its symbol and the UCF logo?

::Glomps Winterwolf:: You looklike someone who needs to be glomped.

SPOILERS for Cartoons Simpsons and The X-Files..............
x-Men was pretty good. Love the film made by Spyke at the end. good focus on Wolverine and nice to see Sabertooth again. I liked what happened to Rogue after she absorbed Sabertooth's powers. Reminded me of a cartain lil vamp from a certain TGS episode
Zeta Progect wass also good. nice to see another viallain besides Bennet and Co. Also shows lil kids with cute lil speech impeniments can be deadly
Batman Beyon. Good ending to a two parter. Sad that Kari had to die. and was it wierd for anyone else to see the dino men everserat themsleves like the fish men in an old Buffy epiosde, besides the villian is named Zander and voiced by Alexis Densioff? or is it the WB synergy?

Simpsons..ok the last two episodes have been a bit disturbing and the dream Homer had was pretty freaky. Nice that they pointed out the joke about how it takes them awhile to get to the main plot

X-Files: a good old disease episode. small development between Dogget and Scully. like how the disease was trigger by sweat and I liked how it glowed in the dark, loved the Survivor joke..pretty decent episode. Next week Mulder is back
END SPOILERS

The Lone Gunmen>>>Am I the only one garing up for this show?

Robby>>about Rogue's bad accent..I have to say Blame Canada. I wasnt sure at first but when I watched the credits I reconized some of the names from Gundam Wing
David Kaye>>>Treize
Scott Mcneil>>>Duo and you can tell its Mcneil doing the voice for Wolverine. He uses his Piccilo voice. Gawd I cant wait for the first two season vAs to work on DBZ again.

well thats it Im going off to read TGS and do a double spoiler with it and Buffy/Angel.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, February 12, 2001 09:21:54 AM
IP: user-37kap10.dialup.mindspring.com

*Lynati pokes her head in, yawning*

###gargoyles spoilies###
that was a good story! a good shift from all the mad-intricate plot-twisting that has been going on recently. Nice to see Lex realizing that his implants are useful after all. Ari WAS scary, too. funnn...

oaky, me for bed now. G'night!

*Lynati passes out on a convienent sofa*
Lynati
Monday, February 12, 2001 03:29:15 AM
IP: 205.184.255.32

***Kyryn steps into the room.***

Gentlebeings,

TGS now presents...

The Happiest Place on Earth

Written by Don A. "Coyote the Bando" Martinez

Enjoy!

***Kyryn steps aside to avoid the stampede and heads off to bed.***
Kyryn - [<<--Clicky, clicky!]
Denton, TX
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:40:16 AM
IP: denm1-30.iglobal.net

The source of the gleam on my right hand in the picture should be easy to guess. :)
Kit again
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:09:35 AM
IP: pool-63.52.168.72.dlls.grid.net

Firestorm: Thanks so much for that Hero Machine link. It is indeed addictive and great too. Hope they add more options soon.

Load the following text for the closest approximation of my RP character I could create:

Super-HeroBlasterFemale*Kitainia*Skin:1,0,0,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:6,0,30,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyebrows:3,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:9,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:10,0,50,0,80,80,100,0,50,0,80,80,100;Mask:8,0,30,60,0,90,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:20,0,30,0,50,80,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:3,0,0,0,77,99,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overshirt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Insignia:22,0,40,0,0,100,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Leggings:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:18,0,40,70,90,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Gloves:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Coat:15,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:10,0,35,0,10,25,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Weapon-lft:28,0,35,0,10,25,100,50,0,13,25,30,100;Weapon-rt:15,0,70,60,0,90,100,0,30,60,0,90,100;Back:13,0,30,0,50,80,100,0,0,0,50,80,100;#

and here's some data to create Doug's RP alter-ego too:

Super-HeroBlasterMale*Doug*Skin:3,0,0,0,50,80,100,0,30,60,0,90,100;Eyebrows:4,0,60,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Eyes:9,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Nose:14,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mouth:2,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Beard:11,0,60,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Hair:3,0,60,0,0,100,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Mask:17,0,100,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Helmet:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Undershirt:5,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,30,60,0,90,100;Overshirt:8,0,40,30,72,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Gloves:2,0,100,0,0,0,100,0,100,0,0,0,100;Insignia:1,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Belt:5,0,30,60,0,90,100,0,0,0,0,75,100;Leggings:2,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Overleggings:2,75,0,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Pants:5,0,10,70,90,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Footwear:10,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Coat:9,0,50,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;Weapon-rt:15,0,60,0,0,100,100,0,60,0,0,100,100;Weapon-lft:18,0,10,70,90,0,100,0,50,0,0,0,100;Back:10,0,50,0,0,0,100,75,0,0,0,0,100;#

Don't we look great! :)

Now, back to waiting for the new TGS. <taps fingers impatiently> :)
Kit
Monday, February 12, 2001 02:07:22 AM
IP: pool-63.52.168.72.dlls.grid.net

Found this link in the adult gargoyles CR.
Don't worry. It is kid safe... and FUN!
(Thanks to Quarryman for the link!)

*WARNING!*
HIGHLY addictive! You have been warned!
Fire Storm - [<--- Hero Machine!]
Monday, February 12, 2001 01:24:13 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Robby> <<the season that killed the series>>: That would explain a few things. Though I shouldn't complain, as I'm getting them for free.

Fire Storm> <<you just gotta shut off java and javascript>>: Eh? I never said it didn't work. My problem is with the download limit imposed my myspace. Of course, I have also been using lynx to get around that !$#@ 240meg limit Rutgers puts on me.

Welcome NukesGoBoom.
<<how long you guys plan to continue the sagas>>: I'd assume for however long they can get people to volunteer.
<<fill me in on your plans>>: Well, I'm working on a CompSci/CompEng double major, and would like to get into some tech related job... Wait, that wasn't what you were asking about.
<<how i can be your friend>>: From a purely aesthetic point of view, capitalization a less density tends to make posts a little easier to read, but all you really need do is occasionally post, perhaps being relevant to a topic of discussion or makeing some sense on some issue. Rare an occrance that is here.

Fire Storm> <<You totally removed all thoughts of having a productive week>>: Evil laugh, cont'd.
<<Thanks>>: Not a problem. I've been going there a month or so now, and felt it was appropriate to mention.

SOROW> Don't worry about the cake, and may your dealings with your enemy be few and short.

I haven't done any of The Band in a good while, and since I quite like them, it is time once more. Plus, it gives me a string of three B artists in a row. So, now I present for you Daniel and the Sacred Harp by The Band.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, February 12, 2001 12:43:31 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Coyote> "Knowing writer," huh? **winks** I'll be looking forward to it. :)

Jannie> Congrats on your son's Eagle Scout ceremony! And a special congrats for driving back in time to retrieve the medal! Hm...maybe I should recruit you for the NHRA circuit...:)

SOROW> Don't sweat it...we've all had extremely embarassing moments, and things will be okay. It's one of those silly moments that you wish you could forget, although you probably never will, and life goes on. :) I definitely hope the story will cheer you up, though!

Mary> Well, the other guys in the room beat me to all the great things I was going to say...but I will say that I've felt what you're feelin' many times before, and I always hated Valentine's Day until a couple years ago...just whatever you do, don't look for your happiness in others...find it within, however you do it (even if it's drag racing or something similarly off-the-wall), and then the rest will just fall into place. :) But no matter what, we all find you wonderful in here! **hugs**

Well, that's all for me tonight! Stay strong, y'all! :)
Lady Corax
Queen of the Strip
Monday, February 12, 2001 12:23:53 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

My son's Eagle ceremony was Wonderful! It went off with almost no hitches (one slight moment of panic when 15 mins. before the ceremony was to begin, I realized that I had left his Eagle medal at home....have I mentioned what a zippy car a Honda CRV is? I was able to retrieve the medal with a couple of minutes to spare ;)
I will post some pictures at a later date. =)

Lady C. and Coyote> thank you both for the information and I have sent a donation towards Xena's hearing dog :)

Now, some thoughts to consider.....

Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a
free trip around the sun.

Birthdays are good for you: the more you have the
longer you live.

How long a minute is depends on what side of the
bathroom door you're on.

I have noticed that the people who are late are often
so much jollier than the people who have to wait for them.

If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?

Most of us go to our grave with our music still
inside of us.

You may be only one person in the world, but you may
also be the world to one person.

Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.

Don't cry because its over; smile because it
happened.

We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp,
some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors ...but they all have to learn to live in the same box.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but
no simpler.

A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery
on a detour.

Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know
you left open.





Jannie
Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:52:26 PM
IP: 209-83-228-102.hou.port.mytelco.com

Oh ... I wouldn't worry about that, SOROW ... I think it'll cheer you up just fine. **grins the smile of a knowing writer**
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:40:52 PM
IP: 216.28.101.80

*sigh* Things are not going my way. At my party last night, one of the girls had brought a cake because it happened to be her birthday...and I dropped it face down on the floor before we started singing! I have never been so humiliated and upset in a long time and I had to drive to the store to buy a new cake. All I could think of was how I ruined her birthday, though everyone else thought it was funny. I cried for an hour! And now my most deadly, and only, enemy is working at my store! I certainly hope the TGS story cheers me up tomorrow! *sigh again*
SOROW
Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:31:28 PM
IP: a010-0591.dll2.splitrock.net

Here I am! ^_^
All is quiet here. I've had time to catch up keeping my massive pile of paperwork and junk mail down with the limited internet access. I managed to go through all the papers and toss the junk in the trash. That's in addition to the usual stuff with I won't go into as I've probably bored you enough already! :D

Niamhgold> <snow> Well I've been missing snow myself for some time now. Emambu purposely keeps mentioning all the snow he has to make me jealous! It's a plot I tell you. You should help Dreamie and me get him good! ;D <38 inches> Wow! Now that's snow! **huggles** Well it looks like we both are missing out on the best snowfalls so far. Still I'm sure we'll both get our chance to have snow fun soon! ^_^ <you> I hope everything gets better for you. Just given time your tendon will heal and knowing you your life will improve. Your friends (myself definitely included) and family will be there to help you through the tough times. Plus, we will be there to share and listen to the good times enhancing them as well as letting you relive the moment. I have quite a bit to share with you so I'll be sending an email soon. :)

Emambu> <above> About the above comment with you, just kidding Emambu! ;) <snow> What no more snow? Don't worry there is more winter on the way! :D <Virginia Beach> I'll see you there then! <you guys don't even know what I look like> Well since we have until 2010 and we're patient just wait until Virginia Beach! LOL < pass on my wishes to Shadowrider> You bet I will! :) <performance> So far no definite plans for you yet. Anyway I'll make sure to keep that day free! ^_^

SOROW> <breakup> I was really starting to think you two would remain an item. Well from what I heard I think you will find a more loving and special person just for you. Just try to enjoy the transition. **HUGS** <party> Have a great party! ^_^

Caliope> ^_^ Wow you really are in an extra hyper mood! **HUGZ** I have to ask are you in love Cali? <don't you stop coming> LOL No it isn't anything here. I'm just suffering with a bad ISP and no real free time at the moment. There are too many people I'd miss! How can I survive without a Cali fix? ;P <moderator> Last week at work I had to make sure the technical team on staff and the technical team of the client understand what's going on in development. I had to iron out all the little details and get everyone to agree. Fortunately it worked out this past Friday. <leash> O.O Cali! I'd be in the doghouse so to speak if ya leashed me! Mrs. Winterwolf, as Emambu likes to call her, would not approve. Though I got a laugh from the idea. ;P Anyway no need as I don't plan on leaving the CR. :) <Roswell> Tomorrow should be fun! I can't wait! **HUGZ** ;D

Taleweaver> Thanks on putting up the information on California's power situation. Sometimes it is amusing when people see or hear one thing and take it as the way it is.

Doug> At this point I'm glad you and Kit have each other. There just seems to be a certain level of craziness in your life. Hope it gets all better soon and stays that way. I've sent snail mail to Shadowrider with the basics so he'll have a ton of questions for you and Kit next time he gets in on leave. ;)

Jannie> I passed your hello to Shadowrider.

NukesGoBoom> Welcome!

Mary> Hope you feel better.

I better post before I lose the connection! Good night!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Sunday, February 11, 2001 08:28:48 PM
IP: 1cust43.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net

All of my diplomas, awards, etc are in a box in the attic. The only place you really need to have your diploma is on your resume!
Spike
Sunday, February 11, 2001 06:32:37 PM
IP: adsl-64-216-236-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

DPH: I can find my Diploma!
I go to the High School and say "I would like a copy of my transcript/diploma, please!" :)
Fire Storm
Sunday, February 11, 2001 05:47:21 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I have no idea where my diploma is -- it lost its value when I got my BS in computer science and mathematics. That diploma hangs on the wall in my office.
richard
Sunday, February 11, 2001 05:47:04 PM
IP: cache-2.nyw.ny.webcache.rcn.net

Lucky me. My diploma was found by my dad in a place that I did not think to look: the headboard of my bed.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 05:35:40 PM
IP: max1-40.cwy.cei.net

Ok, here's a question. For all of you out there who have graduated high school at least 5 years ago, how many can readily find their big high school diploma? I have to have mine by tomorrow morning for orientation. I hope in heck that I can find it. I am applying doctor seus logic to the problem.

Man, this top 10 went by fast. Next time, I am expecting to make it, I will have post ready for me to hit the submit button.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, February 11, 2001 03:21:27 PM
IP: max1-49.cwy.cei.net

*enters*

Thanks people for your advice. I'm just moody right now 'cause of V Day (Valentine's Day). I'm in my hopless romantic mood and would just like to have someone to snuggle up to. *sigh* And I don't care if V Day is commercialized! It's still my favorite holiday!!!

Here's my e-mail address.
Mary Flanders - [jpherit@pacbell.net]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 02:40:10 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Gside: Checked out that Anime site some more.
You totally removed all thoughts of having a productive week!
Thanks! :)
Fire Storm
Sunday, February 11, 2001 02:26:35 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

hello everyone! id just like to start out by saying this sight ir truely incredible. i have been visting it for 3 or 4 monthes now, reading the sagas and looking at all the pictures and the images and contributions by so many people. i never knew that there were people that loved gargoyles as much as i did out there. im not really a newbie to the site, but this is the first time that i have ever chatted with anyone. i have read all the way up to the start of the timedancer saga, and i sit here in awe at the ability of the writers and everyone else who helped to make this possible! its increidible! i would really like to be friends with all of you, now that i have found some of my own kin, and share in all the activites that you guys plan. i love gargoyles! i really want to read all of the sagas, but there is a hell of a lot :) i am also wondering how long you guys plan to continue the sagas, as that i have noticed you are continuing the normal gargoyles saga. i really want to be friends with you people, and i dont want to seem like a "newbie". i really appreciate gargoyles and the people that love it too! please, tell me everything about the site and about you guys, i really want to know. i really am a huge fan! there is no 3 minutes during the day i dont think about gargoyles. i love this site and want to be a friend to all those that love it too. thanks! id like to say im going to be a regular here! please, fill me in on your plans and how i can be your friend. thanks! my name is alex. peace!
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo]
CT, USA
Sunday, February 11, 2001 02:19:32 PM
IP: c1428979-a.blfld1.ct.home.com

Emambu: <What do you when the survivors reach adolescence and begin to challenge your authority?>
Easy. I kill them. In combat. REALLY quickly. Actually, I just pick the "toughest" out of the bunch, and when I kill him in well under a minute, everyone else decides to not try for a few generations.
<Obviously, I would never suggest that your children have all the fun lest your hive perceive it as a sign of weakness>
THAT, and it can just be BORING!
<Certainly this was your work place, with inferior humans that you despised>
You know... your right! I can't let my children have all the fun! And I AM feeling quite hungry! I just gotta make sure I don't snack on anyone on the way there!
BUT, all these questions are for the most part moot. I have been carefull not to allow any of my children (for those of you who are NOT aware of the situation, I DO NOT MEAN HUMAN CHILDREN!) to survive past 21 days (just as they reach "adulthood"). No matter what, they can't lay eggs, but I can't allow them to kill humans and possibly blow my cover.
Do you know how much it hurts to keep killing your children? It breaks your heart.

Gunjack: <And after tasting said spices unexpectedly, some paint on the walls... ; )>
I am carefull!
...Well... unless you are talking about garlic!
<You mean they actually added a randomizing element?>
Yup. Do REAL hackers REALLY post like that? How the hell can anyone understand that?

Robby: So you don't like Static Shock? Other than the music and the animation, I find the plots at least decent. I have been watching Static instead of Spiderman Unlimited (on at the same time.)

Warpmind: <Dang, that's it. I gotta get my talons on some decent manga soon...>
Patience. You are coming to the US in about 4 months. To LA!
There has GOT to be some decent Anime/Manga there!

Gside: The link for Anime works decent... you just gotta shut off java and javascript.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 02:14:41 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hello!

To Stephen, about Atlantis:> I disagree with you when you say that Atlantis the Lost Empire. to me, It has much more a Lovecraft-ish mystical feeling, rather than the Vernesque steampunk-like atmosphere that gave Fushigi No Umi No Nadia its charms (beside the humor and the references to other classics of early 20th century litterature)
Judging to the Trailer that I've downloaded from the Disney's website, The Atlantis looked like R'Lyeh, the sunk homeisland of everybody's favorite humanoid winged calamari headed Ancient. Beside that, graphically, it's much closer to Mike Mignola's style (who will, according to Comics Continuum, be inlisted in Atlantis' credits) than Studio Gainax's designer. I'm eager to see that movie

That's all for now, folks!
Denis - [malkavien@lft.be]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:33:04 PM
IP: adsl-7816.turboline.skynet.be

Sorry, but I had to respond to this, so:

**** MINI-RANT AHEAD! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! ****

<<Disney's Atlantis- I've seen trailers for this, and I'm dissapointed. Disney ripped off Kimba the WHite Lion when they made The Lion King, and now they're horribly ripping off Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, judging by the trailers I've seen and some of the scenes I've heard about.>>

Oi gevalt, oh brother, and Jays... not meaning anything against you personally Robby, but it seems to me either people just have it in for Disney lately, and you're just one of the most vocal. I can agree with you on a lot of the similarities between Kimba, The White Lion & The Lion King (I've seen both), but your comments on the Firebird Suite and now on Atlantis just strike me as someone that's gone totally sour on Disney's animation department.

Granted, it's harder and harder to come up with stuff these days that doesn't have SOMETHING that smacks of something that's been done before. However, I only saw fleeting things in the Firebird Suite that could have come from Mononoke Hime, and what I saw in the Atlantis trailer reminded me more of a previous Disney movie "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" than of "Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water".

To say that Disney is constantly "Ripping off" japanese anime is a little harsh (though with the Kimba/Lion King thing, it's not hard to see why some anime fans would be that way. However, in my opinion, it seems people like you that constantly bash Disney's latest efforts are going akin to Puritain Salemites on a witch hunt.

<<Ah well... WHat do they care, not that many people will have seen Nadia, so most people won't know any better.>>

You'd be surprised how many people have seen anime. After leaving a dollar theater after seeing "Mononoke Hime", I heard a couple of people comment on how much the art style was like "My Neighbor Totoro", and one older gentleman commented how much the action scenes flowed like a Kurwasowa samurai epic. Granted, Nadia hasn't had a mass circulation like some series (DBZ, Sailor Moon, etc.), but I have a feeling Atlantis will stand on it's own merits, and not on whatever similies that appear to have been placed inside it (if any really exist).

But that's just my opinion.

**** RANT OVER! BACK TO THE NORMAL POSTS! ****

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:02:09 PM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

Robby > I hope not; it's many months 'til Xmas and I will snap if I hear one song for that long ; )

Emambu > I'm enjoying the Sabledrake review! Looking forward to comments on the other articles if you get a chance. We were sent a lot of great stuff this time and I am quite pleased and proud of how this issue turned out.

Avalon Mists Deadline > the Spring 2001 issue of AvMists will be coming out next month. If you would like to contribute, please e-mail fics, pics, filks, funnies, character spotlights, crossovers, etc., to me at christine@sabledrake.com by Wednesday, Feb. 28. And don't forget the Artists' and Writers' Challenge -- what _has_ Guardian Tom been up to all these years?

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:09:55 AM
IP: 19-157.075.popsite.net

Robby> Oh
James Birdsong - [LennexMacDuff@yahoo.com]
San Diego, CA, USA
Sunday, February 11, 2001 09:54:07 AM
IP: adsl-63-207-129-127.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net

*Warpmind enters, slurping on a slushie.*
Mmmm... guess who became REALLY happy yestereve? ]:)

*NEWS FLASH*
The rovings of Project UJCF have ended, as it stopped on the street in Berlin, momentarily mesmerized by blinking lights, allowing for a clean shot by the courageous Illuminati special troops. Upon eacj and every ferret in the project, an IV canister containing Ultra Jolt was found. A spokesperson for the Illuminati has stated that this project, and all related projects, have been laid on ice, due to the many unknowns involved.
*NEWS FLASH ENDS*

Doug: Oh, I've dealt with Maggie Chow now. Damn, but that Regen augmentation, along with power conservation, ballistic shielding and combat strength are GROOVY for swordfights. ]:)

Christine: Hey, one fight is all it takes... ];)

Fire Storm: Dang, that's it. I gotta get my talons on some decent manga soon...

Aaron: You're wearing a... That's it; I now know more about you and Mara than I ever thought I'd be wanting to... ;)

Lain: *Offers a warm shoulder and an even warmer cup of hot chocolate.* There, there, my friend. All's better now, or will be...

Lynati: Heh, actually, that washing machine bit was something I borrowed from MaxCat, the Feline-In-Residence at Callahan's. ;) (But I see your point...)

Emambu: You just e-mail me the specifics you're planning to bet on, and I'll do what I can to ensure their success, and you can send me some international money order thingy afterwards. Deal? ;)

Mary Flanders: Aw, you never know. *Snuggles Lynati* You just might be as fortunate as I feel right now, too, someday... A wee bit of patience, combined with a really weird sense of humor and a HUGE pile of self-irony and sarcasm just might do the trick. ;)

Gunjack Valentine: All 'ail Junkyards. ;) Oh, and don't yer know the sayin' "Wen yer fink yer know yor enemy's evry move, he will surprise yer, and yer lose." ]:) And where's the fun in recruitin' 'im, isit? Usin' 'im for demoralization is WAY more fun. Just imagine, right, yer've just zapped 'im hammer and tack to preschool level, and yer dump 'im at the doorstep of the enemy. "Eh up, this lad got the bloomin' jump on me. Please tidy up this garbage, will yer?" ]:) Oh, and for the record, right, this part of the bloomin' post were run frough the Dialectizer, just ter emphasize the bleedin' fact that me freats are rarely idle. ]:)

**RP HERE**
Warpmind blinked at the information this new arrival brought.
"Jim's niece? That's..."
Shrugging, he pulled up a palmtop-sized device from his pocket, aiming it at the girl. Pressing a series of buttons, he frowned at the display. Sammael glanced over at him.
"Say, Warpmind are you scanning her or something?"
Warpmind looked up.
"Huh? No, I tried that, but there's some energy field around her that I can't seem to get past. No, right now I'm trying to figure out how the heck I'm supposed to get that Eevee..."
Mephisto grinned.
"So, it seems my most subtle plans even affect you, Realmsfarer?"
Warpmind shrugged.
"Well, I got my hands on a good GBC emulator, so I figured what the heck."
**RP END**
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, February 11, 2001 06:56:38 AM
IP: spock.ti.telenor.net

**RP HERE**

Mephisto smiled. "You see, my minions and territory are all gone, and I am no longer off planet like I had hoped to be when the Ten arrived. So my best chance for survival is to stay here and fight the remaining ten with the lot of you."
Warpmind nodded. "I see... And when ARE they going to arrive anyway?"
Mephisto looked at the stars and frowned. "The next time someone does an RP bit related to this saga."
"Really?" Kitty Noying asked.
"Yes," Mephisto acknowledged.

Meanwhile, SJ had noticed Mephisto, but his attention was occupied. He was looking at the red headed newcomer and frowned. "I can't help it. That new girl reminds me of someone. And knowing how Robby's RP's go, she's probably related to Jim somehow."
Kari shook her head. "Can't be. You've met everyone in my family now, except my parents, and they're about 30 years older than her."
"Regardless..." SJ approached the newcomer. "Hi."
"Hi."
"I hate to be blatant, but you seem familiar. Do I know you some how?" The girl seemed thrown off. "Are you related to Jim Iza Noying?"
"Wha?"
"Are you a long lost sister we don't know about?"
"Uhm, no?" The girl answered the odd question.
"His daughter from the future?"
"No..."
"His mother deaged? His long lost and forgotten wife and mother of Black Tiger? His cousin? Evil female clone of him? Jim himself under some sorta of wierd anime curse? Jim reincarnated since he is apparently dead again..."
"No, no, no, no, no and no."
SJ let out a sigh of relief. "Good, then we don't have to worry about some wierd plot twist with you and him later on. You're just someone who has some neat-o powers to help fight the Ten with, right?"
"Well yeah, I guess... But I AM related to Jim..."
"Wha? How?"
"I'm his neice!" SJ blinked. He then looked at Kitty Noying, who shrugged.
"Don't look at me, I'm single."
SJ then looked at Kari, who hadn't overheard the conversation. "What?"

(So, who wants to try and explain how THAT particular twist works out? *Evil grin*)
**END RP!**

Eeesh, everytime I start to think I'm going to have free time to post, SOMETHING comes up. I finish all my TGS work and then suddenly discover there's another story I need to work on this season on top of Timedancer breakdowns... I finish all my school projects for the week, only to be assigned like 10 hours worth of homework between my classes, some of which involves going out and buying new art supplies I'll never use again after said project. (Grr...). I work my internship at Antarctic Press only to find I'm actually being trusted to do a six issue miniseries and so I now have 6 months to write, draw, ink, tone, and letter some 72 pages on top of all my other work... Eeesh, it never slows down for me... (Which is why I want to finally get around to ending this ten saga thingie, in another two months I'll likely not have the time to post let alone RP...) I barely have time to sleep anymore! (Which is probably why I've been dozing off on the bus...)

TGS story- Transitions- I'm glad everyone more or less liked it, I was very proud of the story and wanted so badly to write it myself. But as I just described above, I have some serious time eating obligations... But then, in another couple of weeks, ya'll will get to see what I HAVE been working on for TGS... (I'm honestly not sure at this point how many illustrations I'm gonna get to do for my stories tho... I'm going to have to draw during my political science class I guess...)

As far as Macbeth and Puck go and why they've not been around much lately... Well, I'm afraid King Arthur ate them.. 8)

XFL- I don't really watch sports, so I haven't anything to say on the matter. (Yet another difference between me and Aaron! Ha!) AH well...

Angel and Buffy- Don't watch those either, but I'll start once the they begin running reruns on a daily basis in a few more weeks/months. (I think it was the FX channel that was going to rerun Buffy?) Which is apparently going to be like right after Babylon 5 finishes rerunning on the Sci-Fi channel. Eee...

Christine- Does this mean for some time to come Becca is going to be able to sing "All I want for Christmas are my 2 front teeth" complete with irritating whistle sound?

Kit- Well the only thing I find wierder than remakes, are remakes that use the EXACT same dialouge, pacing, floor mapping, buildings, and music, just different actors. Like the remake of Bye Bye Birdie. The only difference is that Dick Van Dyke wasn't in the remake. I sorta understand remakes when the original was black and white, but Bye Bye Birdie was in color! Not to mention rooted in the time period... Just wait, one of these days someone is gonna try and remake Grease. Maybe they'll cast Jeff Bennet as Danny Zucho... (Since he can, ya'know, sing and talk like Travolta. Woulda ya believe it?)

Joseph Stalin- An indication of how much our history books try to cover him up while making Hitler out to be evil... The first time I ever heard of the guy was on "The Tick". And I didn't get the joke until after I did research and found out who Stalin was... Kinda reminds me of the whole bombing of Hiroshima bit, and how our education system handles that... We were the goodguys, and I believed it until I saw the anime "Barefoot Gen.".. (Which should be required viewing in all middle school history classes IMO.)

200 dollar bill scam- Even though it has almost nothing to do with that incident, reminds me of a time I went to a sub sandwhich place a block from my house. This has to be waaay back, cause I didn't have my goatee then and still looked very much like a 12 year old. (I mighta been 12 at the time, how long ago this was is fuzzy...) I ate there all the time cause well, its a block from my house (along with a Pizza Hut, McDonalds, Bill Miller and Church's Chicken...) and they had great sub sandwiches. I bought two foot long subs, one for me, one for my mother, and the total must have been about 8 bucks. I handed the cashier a 20, and she put it in the register immediatley, while my sandwhiches were being made. You may or may not know this, but its typical policy to keep the buy's payment beside the register after change is given so that the buyer can't claim they gave a larger bill. Naturally I didn't notice this immediatley, and since I'm generally pretty trusting, I didn't think anything of it until I got my sandwhiches and two bucks back. I complained and went "Hey, I gave you a 20." The cashier opened the register and showed me that there were no 20's, and since I was just a kid and she was an employee, who was going to believe me over her? I was never able to prove what she did, (she obviously pocketed the 20 while I was watching the sub making) but I *did* boycot the place from then on. They lost a good 20-30 bucks a week from me, which really had to prove something about them sucked since as I said, I do live only a block away. The place went out of buisness a few months later. Gee, I wonder why? The basic moral of the story is, scammers usually get caught and pay the price... Lets me think that there's justice in the world...

*Tries to avoid conjuring images of Amelia from Slayers popping up and declaring that Justice shall prevail*

**SATURDAY MORNIGN CARTOON SPOILERS? AND REVIEWS**

Zeta Project- I'm really liking this show. Its pretty well written and the main characters have nice chemistry going, and the premise is pretty good. The animation sucks horribly, but not nearly as bad as Static Shock. And if the series lasts until season two, (And going on the strength of the writing, I think it might) it'll likely get an animation upgrade, ala Men In Black...

Batman Beyond- They changed the schedule here so my timer keeps missing it. Need to readjust it...

X-Men... Honestly, I don't really like the show. The animation is great, and most of the character designs are pretty good, (Rouge's sucks tho, and the pictures I've seen of Juggernaut suck a lot worse) and most of the character interaction, particularly between Nightcrawler and some of the others is great. But the overall story just... I dunno. Seems wrong to me. (And not just because its the X-men in high school, I can live with that.) Just some elements being overlooked and pacing strike me as wrong. I mean, in the very first episode, Rouge absorbs Storm's powers, and thusly her recent memory, but doesn't catch onto the fact that Storm has no memories of attacking her (since it was, y'know Mystique that attacked her.) Fine, she was under stress. But then a couple eps later she absorbs Cyclop's powers and thus his memories, and then STILL nothing clicks. Eh, sure... Nightcrawler and Kitty don't get along for all of an episode before she starts showing utter concern for him and gives him the nickname "fuzzy elf". (Which I don't mind in itself since she gave him that nickname in the comic, but the timing seemed wrong. They needed another ep or two of not getting along IMO/) Then a couple eps back, its revealed Proffessor X knew all along that Mystique was the principal? And he didn't tell the X-men this so that they could you know, avoid mortal danger or something? And I absolutely hate Spike. With a passion. There were some 200 characters from the comic they could have used, an instead they make up a cheap ripoff of Marrow with none of Marrow's edge or personality? (I realize they made Spike to balance out the male/female ration of the show and to add another african american character, but there were literaaly 200+ other existing characters they could have chosen from...) Maybe I'm just being nitpicky. Overall, its the treatment of Rouge (Geez her accent sucks... Was really bad today when she tried to do Kitty's accent on TOP of her fake southern one...) and the existance of Spike that annoys me the most I think. That and the pacing. Everything that's happened so far probably should have had another two episodes between it all. (Two more eps between episodes one and two would have done nicely I think, in that it would have given ROuge more badguy time and paced the Nightcrawler/Kitty stuff better.) Ah well, maybe now that Rouge is on the goodguys team and SPike has gotten a full two episodes this season, (so he likely won't get any more spotlight eps) so maybe things will pick up...

Jackie Chan- I was REALLY impressed with this show at first. They had the action, fun, comedy, and stunts of Jackie Chan captured pretty well. (Using a shield or crutches as impromptu weapons for some neat fights was pretty cool, for instance.) And the general concept behind the talismans was okay, since it gave them unique threats to deal with every episode. And then the last few episodes sucked. He fought a doll come to life, and dealt with the cast turning into animals, and characters switching bodies. Oh well, today's was decent at least, with a fun villain.

Pokemon- I watched Ash ditch his Charizard last week, and thats the last episode I need to see for a while, as I've seen episodes about 30 eps hence in raw japanese. (Interesting fact, you can pick up almost all the gags and the entire plot of a pokemon episode in fast forward.) The show just got totally redundant a looong while ago. ANd oh yeah, they've started promoting the third movie. And I know I'm going to end up seeing it... Ah well...

**END CARTOON REVIEWS**

DumlaoX- Man, its just wierd seeing you here again after all this time. I'm *still* the one wiping the CR by the way. (Ya know, that little job you handed to me waaaaay back. Never did figure out how to post episodes with my computer tho...)

TV funhouse- Like Southpark, I watch it if I remember its on and turn the TV to the channel, but as noted above, I'm so damn busy lately I really don't have time for TV except on Saturday mornings... (ANd even then I tape shows so I can fast forawrd through the commericals, reruns or boring bits and thus save myself an hour or two...) I do manage to make time for Babylon 5 reruns (they're still new to me!) tho...

Traveler- That post of yours was so short it wasn't even appropriate of the name Traveler. I mean come on, you frakin' BROKE THE CR once with a reeeeeeeeeeeallly long post. It went on for 38 screens I believe. It was so big that the file distorted and repeated itself... Hope to see one of your gargantuan posts soon... Dragons dragons dragons...

Kirshanta- While we'd love to have pics of every new character and lots of scenes illustrated in each story, to be quite honest, we just don't have the time for it. Most of us can muster at best two pics an ep. And if an artist has more than one story a season, its nearly a miracle to get three illos in an ep from them. (We'll see how much of a miracle I can pull for the stories I worked on this season... I have absolutely no illos yet, other projects to work on, and the stories air in a couple of weeks...)

Doug- Neat poem.

Gside- Ranma season 5? Oh yeah, the season that killed the series because it stopped basing the stories on the manga and pissed off all the fans...

Tenchi Muyo news- Actually, I knew about this a month ago. Unfortunatley, I found out during the time I was completely denied access to the CR and forgot about it... SUpposedly it continues the OVA series and leaps forward in time a few years and Tenchi will finally make his choice and will say he decided years ago. There will also be a mysterious new villain named K, tho it has not been disclosed yet if K is male or female. (Gee, could K be... Kiyone maybe?) The director claims we will be surprised by who Tenchi picks. (Yeah right. He got together with Ryoko in all three of the other series AND the movies, the only surprise will be if he doesn't get with her again...)

SJ- Go out and rent Tenchi Forever if you can, its got a great story, music, and resolves basically everything from the Tenchi on Earth/Universe series, and its one of my top 10 anime films. (Tenchi in Love is also a very good flick, but Forever is better character wise.) And remember, in the Tenchi Muyo series which is finally getting new episodes, its only 3 girls after him. Ryoko, Ayeka, and sort of Mihoshi. Kiyone doesn't exist, Washuu's not got any real romantic intentions towards him, and Sasami is ten years old. And Muyo is the ONLY series I can see him getting together with Ayeka in, cause its the only one where she isn't a total biotch and has genuine character development. Tho her being his great step aunt or something is a bit wierd... Doesn't matter, I *ALWAYS* root for Ryoko!

Disney's Atlantis- I've seen trailers for this, and I'm dissapointed. Disney ripped off Kimba the WHite Lion when they made The Lion King, and now they're horribly ripping off Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, judging by the trailers I've seen and some of the scenes I've heard about. Ah well... WHat do they care, not that many people will have seen Nadia, so most people won't know any better. Kinda like how they ripped off Mononoke for the Firebird Suite in Fantasia 2000...

James Birdsong- The live action Sailor Moon movie was only being discussed when the show was at the very height of its popularity. It has not been filmed or cast outside of Beryl, and THAT was like 4 years ago. Trust me, there will NEVER be a live action Sailor Moon movie. If there is, I suppose it'll be about the same quality as the Cantonese Dragonball move... (Goku's played by a girl! Eeep!)

ANd gads, I think that this is the longest post I've had in a friggin' YEAR...

"What would Brian Boitano do if he was here right now? He'd make a plan and he'd follow through, that's what Brian Boitano'd do..."
Robby
Sunday, February 11, 2001 06:29:46 AM
IP: acb584a3.ipt.aol.com

Hyperion> Nice to see you again, and love the quote.
<<I'd love to know what I did to my last post to earn that lack of a graphic>>: The picture probably isn't there. There have been a couple dead images for a little while now, and with any luck will be updated soon.

Emambu> <<From here on out, the choir shall address me as Carol>>: Kay. Though I do suggest you move into a bell tower.
<<what's the accent?>>: Indian. The guy is Peddapulla Sannuti, head of the EE department.
<<Hmm... I think you're lying>>: Close enough. I stopped over once for about half a miute only to look at the fron page when you first mentioned you were having problems.
<<What's the theme of my site?>>: If I remember, it's Jedi Knight mods.

DPH> <<Hehehe. I still have trouble to this day remembering the difference between sine and cosine>>: Sohcahtoa. Thoguh I still can't quite remember which one starts at the origin and which one starts at one.

Richard> Welcome.
<<I put up something interesting (to me at least) and they reset the room>>: Don't worry, happens weekly. I believe all the regulars read the previous week before working on the current week.

Mary Flanders> <<my friends ignore me or over look me, and the only relationships I can find are on online>>: You're probably better off than me.
<<Everything I can think up is based off of something I've already seen>>: All the greats steal. You need only find some way to make it yours. Just about averything Bill (the Bard, that is) did was based off something proven. But he is remembered for the spins he put on it, and the wonderful language he used.

Gunjack> Whoo hoo.
<<how would *I* react if the guy who was supposed to send me the concept art showed up two weeks late, missing his pants and screaming about winged monkeys?>>: Probably wonder why the rest of his clothes weren't also missing and why he didn't say anything about the demaonic guinnea pigs.
<<leave you to wonder why the entire front of my body has been covered in peanut butter>>: It's a great place to store a light snack. And you ran out before you could finish, no? (Wendy)
<<why my face has been ritualisticly smeared with blue shroom paint>>: It makes for a much more immersive RPG. (CRFH)
<<the animated demon skull that is currently chewing on my left kneecap>>: Is that where Murray got to?
<<Let's hear it for free money>>: Whoo hoo.
<<sending him spiraling back into the pit of the Endless Archives>>: I remember when that happened to me. April first of last year. I checked out all the comics that articipated in the swap.
<<I mean, this IS the CR crew we're talking about>>: Evil laugh.
<<And I think we need Otto's take on this, right Gside?>>: Sounds like a plan.
<<Magic bullets? Ooo!>>: Yup. From Magnums. I've read how it's done with a person crossing the line, but they have me stumped.
<<Eh? o.O>>: IEEE is the Institue of Electrical and Electronic Engineers, but it was the getting through free on a technicality that amused me.
<<But noone ever thinks of that, do they?>>: That's because no one ever does any research before they go.
<<BAAAAAAD Gside>>: I do my best. And you know it had to be said.
<<the peaceful innocent elves>>: With the rampant frolicking that is currently going on?
<<And that's when Buxom Girl will strike>>: Which one? And then there are the buxom girls that abound.
<<Sheep are seldom purple>>: Mine glow slightly green.
<<My face needs more needles>>: I'd rather use quills.
Though mine was actually relevant when I first said it.
<<that much cheerfullness would violate my compact with the Mike Colective>>: Remember, you were the first one to suggest the volume of cheerfulness.
<<Nothing! They just grabbed and laughed>>: Maybe you could borrow someone else's in the meantime.
<<I was thinking of Lynati, since she's the queen of the evil smilies>>: I was contemplating the face for your question, though it is fun to watch the shirt.
<<No clueing him in to the good ones>>: Don't worry, if I do, it'll be obfuscated under a layer of acronyms.
<<I just need to find a good "hook" thread to really get him addicted>>: Joyce's dream. And it helps to hook another pantsless furry. And there's always the "My word! She's pristine."
<<Could it be someone actually... MISSED me>>: Nah, just thought the CR could use some more green.
<<I can't seem to remember a kitchen OR an orgy>>: I recall Conan collapsing into his gruel after some hard reveling.
<<And "wang/tad"? Wang-MIXING our slang, are we>>: Nope, just using a wangian. Ukranian measurement. I had an art teacher who always claimed such.
<<how about just a "day in the life of Owen"?>>: It sounds very good.
<<Link? Please?>>: Sorry, the Targum is the official Rutgers paper (as opposed to the Medium, which is probably better not described), and the online entertainmend section hasn't been updated in a good while. The main part of the site seems to be pretty good, though.
<<Though I have guns to make up for that>>: What don't they make up for?
<<Can you *FEEEL* the *LOOOVE*!>>: You better believe I can.
<<I'm guessing the throat or temple>>: I vote nose. Eye is also good.
Condolences on the loss of your data.
<<a day when millions shower you with affection, candies, and scantily-clad women>>: What? No meat or cheese?

Lady Mystic> <<It's all right with me if those who don't and won't post with pics not participate in this poll>>: Just checking.

Need sleep now to help combat (minor) illness. Mp3 later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, February 11, 2001 03:22:50 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

*** CR INFO ANNOUNCEMENT ***


No updates this time around, just reminding all dwellers about a few things, including past updates.


VOTING SESSION ENDS THIS TUESDAY!!!

Vote if you haven't already. The deadline is Tuesday, February 13th, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM CR Time.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/new/vote.html

Received votes from:
- David G.
- Dreamie
- Emambu
- Graymonk
- Guandalug la'Fay
- Jaden
- Lady Mystic
- lain
- Rebekah Ghazaly
- Revel
- Sevarius Jr.
- Warpmind de InzanE
- Wilek Nereus
- Winterwolf

If you already sent in your votes and your name is not on this list, please re-send them. If you participated in the poll from TWO weeks ago, please vote again via the vote page. Thanks in advance.


The archive includes weeks up to February 7th, 2001. It seems somewhat redundant to update it to include last week's CR when it's available via the appropriate link at the top of the CR page so I'll update the archive after this week's wipe. That'll make it an update including two new weeks.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/index.html


The below URL includes a list of incomplete and missing/unavailable CR weeks. Visit this for reference or to help us make our CR Archive more complete. See page for details.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/missing.html


Visit the below URL for a list of available CR pics and pics awaiting the next update. Each list item links to a page from the CR Images archive that includes a thumbnail of the image, and links to the CR pic, the original illustration it came from and the TGS story the original illustration appeared in. Names of the artists of the original illustrations are also included.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images/available.html


The CR Text Colors page includes a new feature that allows you to view samples of text colors. Now you can see what a color looks like without having to test the color in the room. (Please report any JavaScript malfunctions or suggestions on function improvements to me at lady-mystic@usa.net.)

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/colors.html


*** / CR INFO ANNOUNCEMENT ***


Gside: <<But you seem to be asking for votes from people that will use pictures.>> I think it's quite obvious that I'm just trying to motivate people to participate. It's all right with me if those who don't and won't post with pics not participate in this poll.

Kirshanta:

<<I think there should be links at the end of each pertaining story so that the characters can be seen. It is very important, notably in the case of the adolescents in Dark Ages. It would be nice to see what Diomedes or Ajax or Deborah or even a younger Lex looked like - especially since we don't have TV episodes to refer to for most of them.>> I think many TGS fans had this idea at one time or another. I can't speak for the staff but I feel the reasoning mentioned below is a safe assumption as to why it never materialized.

In many cases, artworks of certain characters aren't created until long after the characters have appeared in a story or series. Each time a new picture of a character is released every story that character appears in or is mentioned in would have to be updated. This requires too much time and a LOT of work. Take Sata for example. New artwork of her is created all the time. She shows up quite a bit in TGS Gargoyles and TGS TimeDancer. She has been around for numerous seasons and countless episodes.

The Art Gallery was a very good source for character pics and other TGS artwork. Although, I think it hasn't been updated in a while.
Lady Mystic - [<-- TGS CR INFO]
TGS CR Info Senior Admin.
Sunday, February 11, 2001 01:44:39 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*Lynati pokes her head in*

*shares glance with Valentine and lain*

Mary Flanders: I've been looking through the archives, and can't seem to find an e-mail address for you...do you have one, and, if so, may we know it?

*Waits expectantly*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 01:29:18 AM
IP: pos-ca1-14.ix.netcom.com

Wow. Mark this down on the calendar--Saturday Night Live just had a funny bit. Of course, it was written / done by Robert Smigel, the only funny person on that show...But it was hilarious. A new Disney cartoon called "Ray of Light", featuring Baltimore Raven and Superbowl MVP Ray Lewis. You haven't lived until you've seen an animated Ray Lewis watch Simba from the Lion King die, and then profess "Look! I didn't kill no f***in' lion!"

Coyote: Oh, I sure hope you were watching the XFL game tonight. Now THIS is the kind of game that will bring in fans. Even with technical troubles, having a great game that went into double overtime will definitely keep me wanting more. I was solidly behind the Enforcers in this game, cause I like Avery, but I may have to become an L.A. Extreme fan as well. I don't know, I just really dug the game tonight. I didn't even mind Jim Ross with Jesse Ventura in the announcer's booth. :)

What's up with the beautiful babies here in the CR? First SOROW dumps her guy, then some guy turns down Mary--and he must have been utterly INSANE to do it--and I think lain is upset because someone she knows turned his/her back on her...I'm telling you, it's bothering me. Last thing I want is the lovely young women in the CR to be depressed.

Bronx: Hey, I didn't think your reaction was overblown or extreme. I'm sure the site was a goof, but if it wasn't, I'd be just as upset as you. Oh, and I'm glad you liked my Hannibal joke. ;)

lain: So, more like the "Why did God make a world where pain and suffering are possible?" type of thing, huh? Well, there are a lot of stock answers to give to that. One is that, since the Fall of Man (i.e. Adam and Eve eating the fruit), all mankind has been cursed and as such much experiencing. Another is the free will answer. People do bad things to other people because they choose to do so. Neither of these answers much helps you, though, I'm afraid. After hearing what you've gone through, I can actually commiserate. I haven't had anything as horrible as a miscarriage, for sure, but I've gone through a lot of crap in my life (it's the volume that perhaps makes up for the severity). In case you haven't notice, I'm a little cynical, and perhaps bitter. I don't really know if I could help you, though, because I just don't blame God for the crap I go through, although at times I feel like doing so. I guess I look at it sort of as a test. We enter life with the deck stacked against us--some of us have a better hand than others, some of us keep drawing jokers instead of a royal flush. My way of getting through it all is to just brush off the negative stuff, as best I can, and "rise above". (Note, it helps to be a smartass. If you look at everything through a sarcastic point of view, you'll find that things are much easier to deal with ;) Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But you can't really just give up. Even if you are angry and you cry out against God, you can't do that forever. Well, I guess you could, but it isn't productive. I guess that's part of it too. I don't blame God, or question that aspect of God (the whole, "Why do you allow this" question), because I don't see the productiveness in doing so. For me, it's easier to just shrug it off, as best I can, and get through the bad times instead of just always questioning. I'm not saying that to do such a thing is easy. It helps that I'm as stubborn as a damn mule.
Well, I'm rambling. This probably won't help you a bit. But I understand what you're going through, even if I can't really help you through it by offering any bits of odd philosophy. ;) Oh, and hey, I like you too. Don't take any offense at the Canada jokes. I only say them to get a reaction out of you anyway. If you pay attention to me long enough, you'll know that half the stuff that comes out of my mouth isn't serious at all, and the other half is suspect as well. ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@mailexcite.com]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:51:28 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

*Valentine enters, looking unbelievably haggard and totally solemn*

I have returned. If all goes well, it'll be for good.

*Slowly makes his way over to his desk, and brushes away the strands of cobwebs before turning back to his audience*

I'd fill y'all in on what's been keeping me absent all this time, but you wouldn't believe me. I can understand that... I mean, how would *I* react if the guy who was supposed to send me the concept art showed up two weeks late, missing his pants and screaming about winged monkeys? I probably wouldn't believe him either.
So I won't offer excuses. I'll simply say that the delays in postage were unavoidable, and leave you to wonder why the entire front of my body has been covered in peanut butter, or why my face has been ritualisticly smeared with blue shroom paint. In a similar manner, I will blatently ignore any querries as to the origin of the animated demon skull that is currently chewing on my left kneecap, and leave you to decide for yourself why exactly the bitemarks seem to be growing tiny arms.

It's been, as they say, a LONG week. The ACT went rather well, and I think I picked up a point or two; maybe even enought to qualify for that shiny FULL TUITION scholarship that Harding's been dangling in front of me. Let's hear it for free money.
Plus, I've managed to wheedle gobs of story-related niftiness out of the Lovely Ladies, and I've strung out Warps on Sluggy. I think that earns me a pair of horns, don't you? ]8) ...And as soon as he thinks he's in the clear, I'll hammer him with something new and sending him spiraling back into the pit of the Endless Archives! REVENGE SHALL BE MINE!!!! MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHACKhackcough... Gah.

Aaaaaanyway, on to Ye Olde Reeplys...

Kit><<Just please clear all strippers, cake jumpers, and so on with me first, okay?>> LOL! You sure you actually wanna hear about all of it? o.O ...I mean, this IS the CR crew we're talking about... <<Yeah, I know, he did it in his own home, but still, it's weird!>> Heh. Playing the bongos naked ain't weird. Watching your best friend trash his room, put a chair on his bed, and then use it as a throne while hideing behind an umbrella with a coil of chrismas lights that he treats like a pet... Now THAT'S weird... ; ) But in any case, it's good to hear that McConaghey got his, in advance even. And of course, there's always zombie necromancers in case you need another go... 8D
<<...but I suppose a healthy amount is good.>> By definition. ; ) ...And I think we need Otto's take on this, right Gside? <<Thank goodness the party is small and has very little support, I would probably go nuts and become a crazed underground militia babe if it ever got in charge of things.>> There's always an upside... 8 ) Maybe you could join Jeff's "10 million Vato" army and help retake the country... ; )
<<Glad to see another fan of Deus Ex in here (not getting to play a female lead character is my only beef with that great game).>> Oh, but you'll LOVE Hollowpoint Cocktail... <<You don't own any red satin push-up bras? Oh come on, they are so much fun to wear!>> *Strangled voice* ...Kit? Please stop before I have to jump out another window... Please? o.O <<If they actually write that book, it will be a book I'll be happy to burn. <growls>>> Aww, chill... It's just a politically correct rendering, for fun. Besides, I think it does a good job of illustrating how silly PC language is... <<Why he didn't finish off Broadway is easy- Jackal's a sociopath.>> Um, could someone do me a BIIIG favor and define "Sociopath"? I THINK it means a person who views others as objects, but I need the clinical definition...

Leoperd><<I still have 2.5 more seasons of Gargoyles to read through.... (oy.)>> Heh. Boy, does THAT bring back memories... Good luck on the reading, and I hope to see you in here more.

SJ><<I love Wonka, I love Marilyn, but if I have to hear Marilyn sing about how “There is no place I know like the world of pure imagination”, I may become violently ill.>> I'm no fan of Manson, but I'd pay fat sacks of cash money to hear that... 8 ) Just to hear him have to sing... PLEASENTLY. ; )
<<The only way I’ll allow any Wonder Twins is if they have Lobo show up and eat them alive. Literally.>> ...I think I'm glad that I don't get these shows...

SOROW><<Anyway, I just won first place for it in the district division and it's on its way to state!>> Gratz! :D

Gside><<A good number of people in here would like the flag/bill of rights trick, and Gunjack should go if only to be one of the assistnats for the magic bullets.>> Magic bullets? Ooo! <<From the standpoint of engineer humor.>> Eh? o.O <<a knife...>> Better to bring some OTHER luxery item that includes a pointless flat piece of steel. Then, tear the piece off after you reach the island, and make your knife on site. Given a good workpiece, some assorted smooth stones, and a few days to grind, and you're all set; two for the price of one. But noone ever thinks of that, do they? o.O <<Better than a cuisinart. A veritable salad shooter.>> BAAAAAAD Gside! <<Is that any different than the standard wangage.>> Um, let's just say they would have earned me a warning... o.O <<Have you seen the works of the Brothers Grinn (of supermegatopia)?>> Oh yeah. heheheheh... I think I'll save that one till after Elflife. He'll be lulled into a false sense of complacency by the peaceful innocent elves... And that's when Buxom Girl will strike. 8D ...Have I mentioned that I LOVE my work? <<I believe at another site they put up some works of theirs relating to Godzilla.>> Whoa. <<If I had anything to say about it, that would be the proper environment for such objects.>> There's this great pic of a Cadillac Gage Stingray in J:TRG I need to show you... you can almost hear the commander yelling "WHEEEEEEE!!!!". ; ) <<The problem with chewing is that it takes so much torque.>> Sheep are seldom purple. My face needs more needles. <<Well, you could always go at it in segments.>> But then, that much cheerfullness would violate my compact with the Mike Colective.
<<Did you get anything good in exchange? It may not be all it was cracked up to be.>> No! Nothing! They just grabbed and laughed... : P <<... A... Hmm... Th... No... ... Wang?>> Booya! *high-fives Lynati and Lain* ...Our work here is done! <<I feel sure there's someone else I should be thinking of, but it's not coming.>> Apparently, it WAS just me... : P ...I was thinking of Lynati, since she's the queen of the evil smilies... <<Please note, that was a roundabout reccommendation for a webcomic, narbonic.com...>> Wanna hear something REALLY pathetic? I haven't even gotten around to checking this out yet... : P ...Of course, I haven't read my OTHER comics for the last week either, so that's nothing special...
<<I'm already addicted to mst of the major ones and a good number of the minor ones, so it's pretty much morbid curiosity.>> No clueing him in to the good ones. I'm having WAAAAY too much fun stringing him out like this... 8 ) <<Heh.>> Shush. I had reasons. Not that I'll be telling you any, but they were danged good ones... <<Now known as It's Walky.>> Well, he'll be starting at the beggining, won't he? I just need to find a good "hook" thread to really get him addicted... <<And no mention of Sluggy...>> I honestly thought EVERYONE read that, so I left it out. But we've fixed that. Thank goodness for that frizbee storyline at the begining... ];)
<<Hey Gunjack, remember how you said you said you would post yesterday? What happened?>> LIFE happened, my friend... And a nasty IM addiction. <<Perhaps, but I would rather he was here than know where he has been.>> Gee... Could it be someone actually... MISSED me!? 8D <<even though he quite deserves it for his work on Red October...>> He did Red October!!? Oooo, choral and symphony...
Which reminds me. It's been a long time since I saw Conan, but I can't seem to remember a kitchen OR an orgy... o.O
<<I find it interesting to just look up into the snow as it falls towards you.>> o.O ...That usually results in vertigo and falling over... <<That there may be 8 hours, but add in the time to read them all, multiplied by the number of days in a row...>> See, this is why I excersise SELF CONTROL and just wait to read them in the morning. Course, Lain's been keeping me up till 3 AM anyway. Anyone else feel a MB20 song coming on?
<<But now that Gunjack is essentialy wang. Missing, it seems to have died down a wang. Tad.>> There, there, Laddie, I be back wang. Now. And "wang/tad"? Wang-MIXING our slang, are we? <<The difference a Y chromosome will make.>> *Eyes the perpetual swamp of papers that covers his room* ...No kiddin'.
<<Granted, I do believe it would be nice to see a training episode or two (not even with any serious magical mishap), but he should be limited to quick sightings before Owen goes back to work.>> Then how about just a "day in the life of Owen"? Have it where lotsa stuff goes wrong, from the mundane to the bizarre, and he just works through it with his usual impeccable calm... Of course, this would be best with a First Person perspective, so... Maybe we'll have to make it a fic.
<<Today, the entertainment insert of the Targum had an article about why The Princess Bride is such a classic.>> Link? Please? <<Sorry, I think I only have one of those so far, but with any luck I'll be getting two more once I graduate. And is three out of five all that bad?>> You and me both. Though in my case, the "smart" is debatable... Though I have guns to make up for that...

Warpmind><<Sneak into the White House one quiet day, find a good location to wait, piano string at the ready...>> Heh. Speaking of which, I recently discovered that cars contain some VERY nice wire cables in the hood/trunk releases. Let's hear it for junkyards... o.O
<<*Begins sharpening an unusually fancy-looking, glowing sword* You know, Gunjack, I ought to give you a present, as an apology for those puns... *Begins flipping through the Grimtooth Artifact Catalog.*>> Um, as of now I'm screening all gifts. Please send all presents, cash donations, letterbombs, and cursed artifacts to my new PR man, Mr. Dis Connect. *DC accepts the sword, and is immediatly devoured by flaming cupie dolls* <<Remember, by Illuminati High Command, I'm not only authorized, but ORDERED to Make Your Life Miserable. ];)>> Big talk, 'Mano... C'mon, take your best shot!
*THWACK*
...*thud*
eeeeegh... Ok, maybe not your BEST...
<<: Well, if you're about to go mercilessly betting on my luck at G'01, here's a suggestion: Tell me what you're betting on, and we'll split the profit, aye?>> See, this is what happens when you asociate with unprincipled voluptuaries... ; )
<<Y'know, our dear Gunjack is going to thoroughly regret the day you provided this link... ]:)>> Threats, threats, threats. *nurses sore arm* ...ok, and a little backup. But c'mon, really. My best friend's a crazed Scott/(gay)German/Mexican/Texan/Frenchman/Russian/Spaniard who enjoys gormet cooking and large-caliber weapons. I've seen and heard it ALL. ; ) ...Though I DO enjoy attempts to prove me wrong... <<New battle tactic: Run like crazy toward opponent while flashie-thinging him back to kindergarten!>> Interesting tactics... Though, if you can make him believe whatever you want... Why not just recruit him? "Can you remember anything further back then five minutes ago? *Blank Look* ...Sooooo, wanna help me foil your evil plot?"

Lynati><<and the few tatters of your dignity that lain did not get.>> 8 P ...I get no respect. <<...but Valentine, while again is a friend, still remains a small-minded @$$-tick... ;)>> Feel the love. Such warm vibes... ; )
Oh, and about that little Dar Williams song you put me up to... That's the most addictive piece of music I've EVER heard. o.O <<lain, methinks V will soon have a date with a large knife.>> *slips into Soul Mode* It's the LOOOOOOVE, I say! Can you *FEEEEEL* it, M'brothers!? Can you *FEEEL* the *LOOOVE*!
<<incidently, Gunjack, I don't care how good a writer you think I am, you still can't have my children, even if that WERE physically possible.>> Darn. What if I asked REEAAAL nice? ; ) <<(but you'll be pleased to know I have decided to bottle and market what little talent I do have (at $17.50 an ounce); so if you're still interested in that, I'll see about getting you a discount...)>> But..... Aren't you already sending me chunks of distilled talent for FREE?

Caliope><<lol Its suposed to be unclear and ambigous silly!>> Well, I actually like my stories to make a small amount of SENSE. I'm not a real fan of six hours of iconic art... Fortunately, Lain explained most of the confusing parts (using simple words and viual aids), so I think I understand the whole thing much better now. Which means I have to watch it AGAIN, so I can catch all the stuff I missed. No complaints there. :D
<<But realy, the most disturbing parts are the teddy PJ's and the family diners...those just creap me out :P>> Why? o.O ...the family dinners were akward, but the PJs were just cute... ^_^ ...Unless I missed something...

Coyote><<And responding to Skippy's post ... most students of the writings of Nostradamus believe that Hitler was the second of three Antichrists that Nostradamus predicted.>> I'd go for Frued, Darwin, and Marx. But then, I'm mental. ; )

SJ><<and hey, I respect anyone who brags about being able to "properly" kill a man with a number 2 pencil.>> Someday, you're actually going to have to explain how that works. I'm guessing the throat or temple, personally...
<<Hell, Mystique and Destiny had a much more developed and interesting same-sex relationship.>> Not that you're, y'know, BIASED or anything... *drool*

Robby><<Yes, Hitler killed millions and did lots of nasty stuff, but from SOME perspective or another, SOMEONE musta thought he was doing good. Not sure who, where or why someone would think that tho.>> Which brings us to the FASCINATING question of whether that makes any difference. ; ) ...Mmmm, I love the smell of Postmodernity in the morning...

Emambu><<yeah, we were caught in the meltdown, but we seem to have pulled our way back out of it. The server move is taking place right now.>> Good deal. It looks like all my favorite sites have made it through the crunch unscathed... Except for Penny Arcade. <<Yes, please send me any new pics that you have. I'd love to take a look at them and offer helpful comments. :)>> Sorry for the lack of Piccage, but I've been, um, BUSY, and my HD just bottomed out again. I'll send ya some as soon as I put the peices back together... : P <<You know, it's kind of weird. After reading your apology last week, I suddenly found the urge to go read naughty garg fics. I'm not sure how that happened.>> THAT'S a first... ; ) *chuckles*

Firestorm><<Some paint with colors or sounds, we paint with spices on the tongue!>> And after tasting said spices unexpectedly, some paint on the walls... ; ) <<Seriously, though, it is surprising what you can find out there. I noticed that if you process it again you get different results.>> You mean they actually added a randomizing element? &W337!!

Aaron><< Still, it's worth mentioning that Stalin was responsible for the deaths of, lessee.... THREE TIMES as many people as Hitler. But he was our nominal ally, so we de-emphasize that.>> I sure as heck don't... And from a subjective point of view, Stalin was far worse. Hitler killed because he hated, but his campaign was at least rational and selective. Stalin's Chekists killed and tortured people simply for PR. If I were to be tortured to death, I'd want my killers to at least acknowledge that the act MEANT something, one way or the other...
And while we're on the topic...
EVERYONE GO READ GULAG ARCHIPELIGO, RIGHT NOW!!!!
hmmm, I feel... Cleansed.

DPH><<If crime disappeared in America, the economy would collapse. Perhaps, someone could explain that to me.>> I've heard this sort of thing from at least one other source, and a fairly reputable one at that. I've heard of police officers being pulled off drug cases because of the influx of money involved...

Pisstoff - Not that I'm really in any position to say this, but where are ya, 'Mano?
<<Heh heh. So, we're nonconformists conforming in our nonconformity? Tee hee hee.>> I'm starting to sound like PAL... 8 P ...And we DON'T all conform in here. That's the fun part... *flashes a thumbs up to Greg B.* <<By the way, what's the name of the guy who thought up Survivor, anyway? I keep forgetting....>> Why ask me? I don't even have a TV, thank the Good Laird... <<Well, janitors get paid more than I do, so let 'em earn their money now and then.>> But does ANYBODY deserve that kinda crap? ; ) <<Evil. Period. Screw him. Next case.>> *swoons* ...Oh, but it's nice to see an objective statement every now and then... :D

Blue Caeru><<I'm not an "extremist," but yeah, there does need to be some representation of liberalism in here. I'm a moderate "bleeding heart" liberal, and I hope it's because that's how I honestly feel and not just because I'm young and stupid.>> How do you do! *pumps hand vigerously* I'm a Stone-faced Conservative! And why aren't you an extremist? If you have truth, then Anything less is a disservice to your fellow man... ; )

Kirshanta><<And sadly, this has been proven all too true
"A million deaths are a statistic".>> Only when they're someone ELSE'S millions.

Lainko><<POLITICALLY CORRECT BIBLE EXCERPT>> Personally, I loved this. Especially the "didn't inhale" part... 8D ...I agree with Firestorm. MORE!!!

Jannie><<I didn't find humor in PC of the Bible. *shrugs*
It's not in "celebration" of the Bible either...>> : P ...Well, *I* did at least, and I'm usually the philosophical stalwart. Think of it as commentary on society, and as a reflection of how empty and small-minded the style is. ; )

Daphne><<ok, I'm going to Boycott valentines day.>> Eh, it's not that bad... You're just jealous because you don't have a day named after YOU, a day when millions shower you with affection, candies, and scantily-clad women. You're just- *a kodama appears at Valentine's elbow and whispers* what? you mean... And- But I thou-... Ah. My appologies. *joins the boycott*

Daniel Johnson><<Because this site is such an artfully done joke? Absolutely.>> Amen.

Wilek - Those were the days, my fried... *wipes a tear away*
Sooo... When ya gonna give us a REAL post? ];)

*checks his watch*

Aaaaand that's all ya get tonight. I got up five hours early today (7 AM), and I gotta arise at 8 tomorrow. See y'all around. 8 )
Gunjack "Soggy Shoulder" Valentine
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:46:45 AM
IP: 216-146-184-195.bwn.net

Emmabu: Thanks for the good wishes. I too hope the new guys at work will do their jobs. I trained one tonight, he seemed like he'd be okay. Of course, one never can tell- another officer quit last night after his first week. :( You can definitely use Kit and me as evidence to help Dominic and Neely stop hesitating, I hope it works. Kit and I bought our house together also. :) I was in Taiwan 1989-1996, my stepfather was the Italian trade rep there and I got to attend the local American school. Many great experiences were had, and many not-so-great, but all taught important lessons. I have very fond memories of the place.

Mary: Do not believe such things about yourself. That is the first step to depression and feeling awful. You don't want that. Kaioto's already given you the best advice about how to change your life, I suggest you take it. The road to maturity is exactly what he laid out- all it takes to step on it is the will to do so and self-confidence. You can get the latter easily if you tell yourself you have it- it worked for me. And once you know you're cool, don't flaunt it and don't let anyone tell you you're not. If they do, let them keep their opinions but go being the way you are and you want to be. You'll gloat later when the jerks get theirs. :) Remember, adapt to your environment for ultimate happiness. You can not make it immediately adapt to you. And as for your love, well, just wait and hope. Eventually, the prince will come. Have faith in it. We in here do not think low of you at all and we are here if you need us.
Doug
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:42:49 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.247.dlls.grid.net

Mary: Well, I don’t know what the best advice is to give ya’ here, but I’ll throw in $0.02 since it seems like you’re looking for feedback.

My best advice is to stop looking to your popularity among your family and peer groups for an evaluation of what your status is. You don’t need their approval to be a worthwhile person. If your goal is to become a mature individual, your concerns are going to shift from what people think about you to what impact your life has on other people. Maybe the best recourse is to take a step back from reacting to what’s going on ~to~ Mary. Some eastern philosophies think that being too centered on the now of the self is a lot of excess baggage that can weigh you down during tough times.

It might do you good to consider what you want to do in the future. What are Mary’s goals? What are Mary’s expectations? What are your skills and strengths? What skills and behaviors do you think need more refining? What kind of an impact do you want to have on the world? What do you want out of your education? Where do you want your career-path to lead?

When you start to answer those questions, even tentatively, you can start to formulate an idea of where you want to go in the near future. With that, you can start focusing your concerns on who and where you want Mary to be in the future. Nothing changes the present but the remorseless passing of time. What you can change is where you wind up 5, 10, and 15 years down the road. Outside-in may be the perspective you need on your life right now, rather than being on the inside looking out.

And, even in the short space of a year, things will change. From personal experience, antagonism with siblings usually fades once you aren’t live together anymore and you have worse inconveniences to worry about. Parents are easier to understand and more understanding once you move out. High school dies in high school. All the popularity contests, the sports + cheerleader glory, all of the stupid jokes and nicknames and toilet humor, it all dies a quick death in the next few years of your life. It’ll be regulated to immature gatherings in basement dorm rooms and the occasional low-key talk in a cubicle while the boss isn’t looking. It won’t be anything of consequence.

Love … love is another example of being concerned about how you affect someone else’s life and feelings with your own. I’m not sure you can produce anything meaningful by just sheer attractiveness. The key to finding the right person is meshing with and supporting each other’s lives effectively. This doesn’t necessarily mean harmony or lack of conflict either. You’ll know when it is right if you pay attention to the ripples that each of us make in other people’s lives. Someone’s will resonate with yours. Just make sure you’re looking.

No matter how immature people are in school, being faced with a real job and a real life in the immediate future sobers them up real quick. You don’t have time to pull this kind of juvenile crap much longer. You do have to worry about being at the most crucial juncture of your life, however. The choices that ~you~ make in the next couple of years are going to follow you for the rest of your life. Plan well for them, and you’ve got a good shot at finding it very, very rewarding. Worry about “acting normal” or the unfairness of the here and now is a waste of your opportunities. Worry about actions with real consequences, and make the best impact on the future that you can. If you plan for moving forward, you can leave the bulk of this unpleasant present behind you forever. When you need to, move the world on your terms. When you are in the right position, let the world move around you until where you want to be catches up with you. Either way, know where you are going so you can go on your terms. That’s the best you can do.

The past formed the present. You can’t change the past, and thusly can do little to the present. The future, however, is many things, but it is always what you make of it.

As for writing, most original work is based on things we have already seen. Most good art is based on things we’ve already seen. Even the most free-form of creations must draw on the common experiences of a culture or a species in order to evoke the desired response from an audience. An example is like how white often symbolizes death in the East but purity in the West. You need to see how white is used in a culture in order to use it in the proper context in a visual expression. Part of communication is drawing on common ground. The key is finding new and unique ways to build upon that common ground, and then making sure they are distinct enough to survive copyright laws. ;-) I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

I hope this week finds things a little less heavy on your shoulders.
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:00:40 AM
IP: 1cust223.tnt1.brockton.ma.da.uu.net

Greetings all... better get to some late replies first off:

Doug/Kit & Everyone - thanks for the well wishes concerning my eyes. I think I said this before, but I wanted to make sure I had that covered. It's great having glasses that I can see in normal light again, but I hope when I can see the cornea specialist that they can tell me if I can get my sight in my left eye back to somewhat normal levels again.

Just For Doug/Kit - Congrats on the house and land! Hope your folks don't meddle too much into your wedding plans... If I can/am able I'd like to come out and sing for you two (I do a special redition of "So Help Me Girl" by Joe Diffie, it's perfect for newlyweds!). If not, I'd still like to send you a gift.

Christine - Go for it! I always find it's better to hear an audio book when it's read by the author themselves. ^_^ Hope to hear more and more good news on your writing projects in the future!

Mary Flanders - Chin up, me girl! No matter what anyone else says, you are someone special, and worthy of some fella's attention... it will happen someday, just don't push it. Finding your life's love is like looking for your keys; the harder you try, the less likely it is they will find you. ^_^

Emambu's Review - Woah... to be honest, I never expected that deep of a review! And to be completely honest, I never thought the story itself fit the Romance theme. I just wrote it as part of an ongoing series (yes, there are more stories) of my characters from Moray & Co. ...but still! That was a great review. And I didn't think that was one of my best stories either. ^_^ Thanks, Emambu! ^_^ And thanks to Spike for pointing it out to me. ^_^

Well, that's all for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:55:24 PM
IP: 65342hfc52.tampabay.rr.com

Top 10 squared!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:18:46 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

**grins sheepishly** But I know you'll get be back in spades eventually, milady. ;)
Coyote the Bando
Saturday, February 10, 2001 09:41:51 PM
IP: 216.28.101.110

Dang it, just missed the top 10...

Coyote, I'm blaming it on you. ;) You had me distracted! ;)
Lady Corax
Saturday, February 10, 2001 09:40:11 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*enters*

Well here's a blow to the groin. I asked Joseph what it was that he didn't find appealing about me (since it had been nagging at me for a couple of weeks) and he said I wasn't very mature. *@&$T%^#&@*$^%&#*$^$&#*$^$%^#&#&. Why do I feel like I'm the most undesirable woman on the planet???

I can't do anything right, my parents wish they never had me, my sister hates me, my friends ignore me or over look me, and the only relationships I can find are on online! God, I hate having Asperger's Syndrome. Maybe that's the problem. I don't know how to act normal and I'm completely incompetant. :( I want to go to college right now and just grow up. >:( But I'd probably fail at that according to my parents with my computer and anime obsessions. I just have to face it. No one in my RL gives a rat's ass about me. :(

My writing probably isn't good either. Everything I can think up is based off of something I've already seen. >:(
Mary Flanders
Saturday, February 10, 2001 09:32:19 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I put up something interesting (to me at least) and they reset the room .. oh well.. here is a redo.

I was just watching the new Batman Beyond, and oddly enough I think Kobra had a point about turning humanity into reptiles. Assuming that there was no loss of intelligence(I didnt notice any from the leader), the form they chose would 1) require far less food/resources to survive day to day because of the cold blooded nature. 2) Live quite a bit longer due to the reptilian anatomy. 3) Was indeed stronger and surprisingly agile for a reptile. 4) Would be less susceptable to injury.

The only thing they messed up on in my opinion is a tail as a counterbalance which would almost assuredly have accompanied the form change.

Richard - [nospam@notgiven.com]
Rural, NJ , USA
Saturday, February 10, 2001 09:09:31 PM
IP: cache-1.nyw.ny.webcache.rcn.net

Ummm.. kinda top ten ^_^
Bronx
Saturday, February 10, 2001 09:09:25 PM
IP: aca894a8.ipt.aol.com

Ten? Am I?
Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:37:32 PM
IP: 216-146-183-130.bwn.net

Lucky Nine! ^_^
Dreamie
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:23:15 PM
IP: ac8b5012.ipt.aol.com

1000th.
A very respectable power of two.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:22:59 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

seventh? cool. good prime number.
Daphne
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:13:23 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.223.76.philadelphia1.level3.net

That was fast... I went from third to sixth in a matter of seconds :)


---Emambu
Emambu
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:07:34 PM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Or fifth...
Alan
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:07:20 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

maybe third?


---Emambu
Emambu
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:06:43 PM
IP: dhcp81-237.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Second or third!
Alan
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:06:30 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

tOP 10, MAYBE #1
DPH
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:06:23 PM
IP: max1-16.cwy.cei.net

Wahooo! Top Ten!
Coyote the Bando
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:06:15 PM
IP: 216.28.101.110

First?
XenaTrek - [ellislis@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:05:58 PM
IP: sdn-ar-006florlap188.dialsprint.net

First!
Spike
Saturday, February 10, 2001 08:05:17 PM
IP: adsl-64-216-237-62.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net