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Todd- When someone uses a really dark color for posting, just highlight the entire post with a mouse drag. It'll invert the letters to a nice easy to read color, usually white. Just a little trick picked up from back when Wilek used to post in REALLY dark colors...
Robby (NOT Aaron, just lil' ol me...)
Saturday, April 21, 2001 02:57:26 PM
IP: ac940d22.ipt.aol.com

Val enters covered in grease and metal dust from the gun shop*

Whee, what a night. Spent most of the evening watching "The Godfather" and designing some shotgun pistols. I still got about six weapons to write up, plus the "custom chrome" variants.
Plus I've got to lay out the Tactics and Intel sections, and start writing the danged thing. Ten days till the deadline, right, Christine?

Gside - Yeah, yeah, I know I promised to start that huge post, but I got a deadline. I WILL catch up, though. ; )
<<Mostly wang and hentai tentacles.>> The good things in life. <<McKennitt is pretty good, if a bit on the boring side (though mummer is quite good), and I haven't heard the rest.>> Mummer's is the best (also Dante's Prayer and The Highwayman)... Enigma's pretty good too, especially in
the woods at 3am after a co-ed water balloon/shaving cream fight. <<It kind of freaked me out the time she got on MSNIM in the middle of a chat.>> When was this? o.O <<Wait.>> *switches to Antonio Bendaras voice* Not yet!

Lyn - WHOA!! O.O Sounds like things are looking up for everybody... :D Especial gratz for seeing Ani. I'm impressed! <<HEY LAIN! I"LL FRONT YOU THE 25$ if you want...>> Only if I don't front it for her first. Evil self-serving reasons, y'know. ; ) As for the RHPS... *chuckles evilly* ...We'll see, ne'?

Lain - Sounds like a plan. :D <> I dunno... I kinda Liked "Hurley" Lain and "Angel of Death" Lain, myself... ; )

Josh><<But now you're not alone, we all feel like dorks 8-).>> Speak for yerself. I feel like an antisocial, gun-obsessed semi-philosopher/logician/pragmatist who enjoys planning covert ops to nuetrilize the government of China. I'm not sure what societal sub-category that puts me in, but
it sure ain't "dork"... ; ) <<LOL. I'd pay money to see that.>> Same here. I'm hoping I can con her into letting me use the PD firing range...
<<Actually, its possible. They'd just travel very slowly, limited by the speed of the water coming out of the squirt guns.>> I've been hanging around the wrong crowd too long. As soon as I read "squirt gun", I got a HORRIBLE mental image of a last-ditch propulsion system for stranded pilots...

More at some nebulous date in the future.

"Do you know how to kill someone with a mechanical pencil? What you do is..." -"Angel of Death" Lain
GUnjack "no work and all play, four to five times a day" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
the Great White North (one could but dream.. no.. lains just posting this)
Saturday, April 21, 2001 01:17:32 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Thanks for the welcomes!

Oh, geez...I've only been here a few days and already people have opened their mouths without thinking...
<<<<get an art degree so that i can be a .. a.. a what?>>: You can teach... oh, you can also starve.>>
*sigh*
Dammit, its people like you that ruined the pride in getting an art degree for people like me :P
Industrial Design is a degree in art...and you can end up with a job with Ford or GM, not to mention all the other companies out there that make...well, everything.

Lynati: Art Students Rule!!!
A ceramics and creative writing double would be awesome...I wanted to minor with ceramics, but the school here doesn't like minors in art *sigh*. Could just double...

<<Drugs: The best art supply! ;)?>> Only if you are in drawing and painting, dude.

Fire Storm: <<any idea what the general state of Gargoyles is there?>>Me or in general? ;)

Go Fiery Lain, Go! Doing stuff like this on your own is tough, but if you really want it, you'll get it. I have no doubt that you'll make it :)

Actually, Siofra is not my real name, but probably will be that of my firstborn daughter :) I wasn't lucky enough to be born with parents who are as interested in our heritage as I am :P

<<What do you think of "New Age" groups like Enigma, Enya, Lorenna McKennitt, and Pure Moods CD's?>>
I absolutely love Lorenna McKennit and Enya. They are great for sitting around and listening to thunderstorms, like I'm doing right now. Not too big on Enigma or Pure Moods, though. Another awesome one is 'Scottish Moors', great music, kind of haunting, and incredibly beautiful.

Well, I must be off. Have a great day everyone!

Siofra - [Siofra7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI
Saturday, April 21, 2001 07:30:32 AM
IP: bursley-219-53.reshall.umich.edu

say what??? my exam isnt till 2pm today??? i SWEAR it said 9pm when i looked it up..
o.O

heh.. well.. on the bright side, at least i didnt miss it and this means.. MORE SLEEP FOR ME!!!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!!
*ZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz*

thank youzzzzz for all your zzzzzzzupport.. you guyzzzzz are greatzzzzzzzzzzzz......
*passes out*

PS lynati>> YOU have 25 bucks?? *I* got a cracker.. do you think its enough?
; )
lain "wheres my brain" iwakura
the Great White North
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:48:25 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Is it my imagination, or most Gargoyles-related sites are a bit dead?
Solomon - [solomonv1@yahoo.com]
Palma, Spain
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:44:26 AM
IP: va1-b-cache.ono.com

I don't have much time since I need to get to work but I just had to say:

LAIN!!!!! YES!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!

:)
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:32:47 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

GSIDE - Um, could you lose a lighter coloring for your post, please? It's difficult to read what you say when you choose such a dark color.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:02:43 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup011.dialsprint.net

I was going to post last night, but by the time I got around to it, I couldn't get to s8.

Lady Mystic> <<how little I contribute in major discussions>>: Those are the ones most likely to start flame wars, and it's sometimes better to stay on the sidelines.
<<other continuing discussions>>: Those are the fun ones, but they need be in a topic that interests you should you want to contribute.
<>: Eh, just keep replying, and eventually you'll get into something that interests both you and someone else.
<<someone else had already voiced my opinion, I couldn't think of anything to say, or had no reaction to post>>: Just drop a couple wangs. Works for me.
<<are you talking literally or is there a hidden meaning behind your comment?>>: Mostly literally, with matter meaning of great weight.
<<Many people here have had continuing discussions with you that have lasted WEEKS>>: But what have been the topics of those discussions? Mostly wang and hentai tentacles.
<<You may not have officially tested your natural voltage but I know you have talked about doing it>>: It's not that hard. The next time you have a multimeter out, just hook up a couple wires to the V/R and common ports, make sure it's set to AC voltage, and grab the wires.
<<Care to make any for other genres (not for sex/slave purposes)?>>: Not enough of a market.
<<Out of curiosity, what other CR info pages do YOU use?>>: Not much. Recently I was viewing the source of the text color pages for the hex values, but generally, I just like knowing all that info is stored somewhere for emergencies.

Fire Storm> <<so, she can't say "Can he join us?">>: I think "Can she join us?" might be better.
<<For it to be more believeable to the non-engineers in the room>>: So true. They don't trust the power of duct tape enough.
<<have you seen it repeated?>>: I always skipped out on dissections.
<<What do you think of "New Age" groups like Enigma, Enya, Lorenna McKennitt, and Pure Moods CD's?>>: McKennitt is pretty good, if a bit on the boring side (though mummer is quite good), and I haven't heard the rest.
<<Lady Mystic: Wo Ai Ni>>: Lesson 2: "Woda Airen."
<<Movement bad. Drinking good>>: Boo yaka.

Calíope> <<halucinating for one eaving>>: Anything good?
<<five trilogies with 4 books or a trilogy with 5 books?>>: One trilogy of five.
<<it cant be called a trilogy, it kindda spoiles the "tri" part if its more than 3>>: That's the point.
<<do the pigions explode?>>: Supposedly they foam very much, and their gullets might split.

Lain> <>: It kind of freaked me out the time she got on MSNIM in the middle of a chat.
<<get an art degree so that i can be a .. a.. a what?>>: You can teach... oh, you can also starve.
<<preferably SENSIBLE advice?>>: Don't look at me, though I'd worry a good bit about funding.

Welcome Siofra.
<<You all seemed like a nice enough group of people>>: Wait.
<<the University of Michigan's Engineering school was evil>>: How is that different from any other engineering scool?

Warpmind> Greetings. Greetings. Stay a while and listen.

Imzadi> <<limited by the speed of the water coming out of the squirt guns>>: And mass. Can't forget mass.

Fire Storm> <<has anyone else noticed that the CR time is about 4 hours off?>>: Were'nt you supposed to have fixed that?

Lynati> <<am I the ONLY one in here who has a father who is supportive in whatever I want to do as opposed to being a sadistic spirit-sponge?>>: I think mine's pretty good, though I haven't really tested it.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, April 20, 2001 11:22:46 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

*Sweeps in through the curtains, singing loudly*

"You've always got those dark sunglasses, covering half your face...
If you promise to take them off, I promise I won't squandor your gaze..."

I must say it, and I must say it loud; ANI DIFRANCO KICKS @$$ !!! ...and she truly kicks it into next week playing LIVE!!

I guess today has been pretty spiffing. My art class is working in a building downtown for today and tomorrow, in a room that there is going to be a Big art auction in tomorrow. Somebody had the bright idea that the buyers would enjoy seeing art in it's early stages; how it develops and all. Now, I really don't like the idea of people seeing my work in its first stages; naked and gross as any birth...but then I realized that they weren't going to be watching it come into existence, just seeing it in it's last stages('cause they wouldn't even be there until the following night). SO I start a couple new projects...and already they be looking like they are gonna turn out to be the best work i've done all year. They are VERY different than my normal style (being that I haven't done very many multi-media pieces of this type) and they also have great MEANING to me...and they are turning out pretty F%#@-ing good! We get back to school, and I run into a friend of mine, and she asks if I had gotten tickets to Ani; and I said, no, ticketmaster keeps telling me that one ticket is too many to buy, so I guess it is sold out; and she says. wow, that was quick; I just got mine this morning. and I say "..." because I tried to get mine over a week ago...so's I decide that they likely haven't sold out after all, and I go down to the theatre, and YES! I gets meself a ticket. And so, I am at Ani, right near the front rail gaurd, with the only three people I can count as my "friends" at this school, and I remember that I have a cheap flash camera... So, NOW I also have a solution for what to do my digital/photoshop project on (let's pray that the film comes out alright.) The opening performer is pretty good...and then Ani comes out, and the show takes off. Eight of the nine older songs she played are my FAVES by her, and the new stuff was interesting. I got a spiffy poster to commemerate the evening. I get back, and we stop off at QT, and I get Ben&Jerry ice cream (all yummy and fattening but at least I am not going to bed yet so it won't *all* turn strait to fat..cookie dough and fudge brownie...mmmm) and I get to talk to lain for a short bit...and then I get to come in here and see that she may not be entirely screwed over after all...:D:D:D...HEY LAIN! I"LL FRONT YOU THE 25$ if you want; you just have to talk Val into seeing the RHPS if we all manage to make it to NY. ;) (getting to see the Good Christian Boy(TM) at a Rocky show is WORTH that amount, IMO... *ethically challenged chuckle*)...and also I received a big email file from a relative concerning research I need for my art class. Yes, a fairly good day.

Siofra <and now I don't have to feel like a dork for harboring a lingering obsession over a cartoon that was cancelled years ago> AMEN TO THAT!! heh...silly me; all those years and I never even CONSIDERED the thought that their might be other obsessive fans out there; I had no idea that there was anything like this until last June. Whoa!...has it been that long? yeesh.

schooly stuff...
I have course selection on the 23rd...ceramics and creative writing double, maybe? I'm not sure I could get my head away from fanfics long enough to write something, well, non-fanfictional. hmm...well, I can always change my mind. Incidently, am I the ONLY one in here who has a father who is supportive in whatever I want to do as opposed to being a sadistic spirit-sponge?
aah...okay, I am going to go shower now.
Oh-first...just to make sure that this day ends as best as possible...*Grabs Warpmind* *SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCHH*

*glides out, smiling. ;) *
Lynati Kshudra
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:36:55 PM
IP: 205.184.255.4

Willow & Tara: I'd forgotten that Buffy & Xander freaked when she first came out- that seems so long ago. <grimaces> Good points all around, especially from Taleweaver and Lain. I agree with the former that Willow and Tara too often seem like clones. I hope a big fight is shaping up between them too, they need one. <shrugs> When all is said and done, I guess I'm like Doug on them, I don't completely like their relationship but I'm willing to sit back and watch where the writers take it. I just hope it's somewhere good.

Buffy's Weakest Link: I say it's Dawn. Look how easily she wanted to get Joyce back, damn the consequences. That impulsive nature is sure to cause more problems down the road.

Imzadi: <I'm lucky if I remember to wear my underwear each day> When did I say that? I have no problem remembering to put on my underwear! :) BTW, I am in agreement with your friend Nico on women. I like talking to them, hanging out with them, touching them, hugging them, sparring with them, etc. but date one exclusively? Not in a million years. I also agree with her that women are generally better-looking than men, Doug being an exception IMO. <Women or Men> My preference depends on my mood. Though I'll take Doug any time, love being the ultimate aphrodisiac and all. <grin>

Beth H: I agree with Doug, talk to David about the situation! <frenzied shriek> Just wanted to hear that, I was kidding. :) As for my opinion on things, well, from the evidence you've given, those girls could be silly girls or girlfriends, no real way to tell which without further observation and possibly asking them. If you're not ready for that like you said, I agree with Doug- just wait and continue observing them without saying anything. Sooner or later, the answer will come.

Lain: Three cheers! Good luck on your chosen course, and enjoy those high grades, however they are used. More power to you! :) <orientation> Glad to have another fellow bisexual woman in here. Doug and I also enjoy the activity you mentioned you and Valentine enjoying. :) Whenever you come to Texas, please do look us up.

Jannie: Will miss you, good luck moving.
Kit
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:31:42 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.128.dlls.grid.net

Lain: Great decision. Good luck with it. You go, girl! :) <we have a law here that allows women to go topless in the summer> Note to self- spend time in Canada next summer if possible. <grin>
Doug
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:13:36 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.128.dlls.grid.net

Um... has anyone else noticed that the CR time is about 4 hours off?

1:40AM, EDT
Fire Storm
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:11:45 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Interesting AOL-IM chat last night.

Pistoff: Drugs: The best art supply! ;)

Imzadi: <That's a general rule for troops>
"You WILL learn how to peel potato's, do pushups and run 20 miles!"
"What about killing?"
"Who cares about that! Tomorrows wars will NOT occur in a warzone! They will occur in the gym, in the kitchen, and on the track!"
<Sucks, huh? There's another feature...>
...with the additional Shop Vac feature!

Yes, but have you ever SEEN a gargoyle in real life?
<I'd prefer not to have any more intelligent than a CLD>
I REALLY don't consider that AI.

No pay for Beta's, no get exclusive rights.
<Absolutely not! This is a privately commissioned project!>
See above.
<No Sh!t. Who's quote was that, by the way, I'd like to add it to my great quotes page.>
I am pretty sure that is from Supermegatopia.
<Linux is only free if your time is worthless>
What does that say about OS-X?
<Hey! I'm a republican, thank you very much>
And that just goes to prove the point! :)

Siofra: Welcome! Finally, someone from the GOOD school in Michigan! :)
Ann Arbor, eh? Hmm...
BTW... any idea what the general state of Gargoyles is there?

Coyote: Sorry, but UofM does have a better Science department!

Oz vs Tara: Why compete? Threesome! ;)

DPH: <When I ordered my PC, I also ordered some blank CDs to go with it (yep, it has a CD burner). Well, the CDs arrived yesterday, but the rest of system has not arrived yet.>
When the HP arrived (I DID NOT PAY FOR IT!), the accessories arrived a week before the printer, which arrived a few days before the rest.

Gay/Bi/Straight: They are all the same to me. They all roast up nicely, and taste good hot from the grill.

Aaron: 
I really didn't think about the work I did for you until a few days ago. Thats why I said the line about the paperwork.
At first, I didn't fall for it. Then all the talk by you two trying to clear things up REALLY confused the he!! out of me, until I just got to the point of fsck it! I don't care! As long as someone is taking care of the CR, I DON'T CARE!
<‘S what I thought too. Trust your feelings, Luke>
But not fear. Fear brings you closer to the dark side.
<Gods I'm depressed now>
Take your own advice. Search for work.

Lain: YES! Show that you are your own person! Take control of your life! Even if things do screw up, at least you have taken control of your life!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:09:53 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

GO, LAIN!!! Yeah! :)
Ravyn
Friday, April 20, 2001 09:00:13 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Lain>YEAH!!! You go girl!!!! ^_^
Beth H.
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:56:40 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

okay.. i have a plan. and its a good plan.. (at least *I* think so..)

this is my plan:

i have just completed the application form for harding university. (okay so i need 25$ U.S. to submit the thing and i dont have 25$ U.S. but.. thats BESIDE the point)
i am going to FIND my 25$ from SOMEWHERE and submit the form and see what can be done.

in the meantime i am going to go to summer school at university here and do the art courses. and i am going to get STUPIDLY good marks. i am going to work my butt off and get 90s in BOTH courses, okay? you just watch me... just you fu**ing watch me..
i am going to pray the harding people really do love me as much as they say they do. if they accept me as a transfer student i will be the happiest person alive.

i will wait and then, if they accept me, i will take my two 90s and put them under my dads nose. i will say, "look dad, i did my best and i could do this major if i wanted - but *I* DONT want to..THIS is what i want to do. i know you arent going to help me but i can look after it. this is what i want to do and i will make me.. AND you proud.."

and then i will go.

this way, whatever happens, i win. if i get in to harding, then i get away and prove im a big girl and can take care of myself. if i dont get in i still have two 90s on my transcript.. and one step closer to an honours degree.. and one step closer to getting OUT OF HERE.. okay so its a longer route but i will still get out.

i know you guys will support me if you think im gonna be happy at the end of it. and i know you like me better when i am "fiery determined lain" more than when i am "leaden lain" (these are personality traits gunjack has named for me.. theres a few more but youll have to ask HIM)
i like me better when im "fiery lain" too..

anyway, so thats my plan. what do you think? am i being a moron or can it actually work?
lain "hows it gonna be" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:39:40 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

GI Joe> I hear you on that one S.jr. I wish I knew what it was about mysterious charcters like Snake Eyes. From Snake Eyes to Wolverine to Bobba Fett, enigmas always snag the hardcore fans.

By the way say Happy B-day to your dad. It's Tim Curry's birthday today.

Willow/Tara> Tara's starting to grow on, but it is slow. Aside from the scene near the end of "The Body" and a scene with Anya, she hasn't really interacted with the others. I will say that I'm firmly in the Oz camp. What I liked about them as a couple was you say Willow change and grow from it. Willow grew more confident and outgoing. With Tara it is too much like looking in a mirror. Tara has the same self conscious, shy mannerisms as Willow. Like in 'Triangles' where Buffy and Tara are discussing classes. You could have taken out Tara and put Willow in and it would have been the same scene.

She is growing, I just wish it were a little faster.

Weakest Link> I was hoping for something more anti-millionaire. I was a little gleeful at the insults. But the interview was sort of left-field. We only met these people and we're supposed to care about them? One thing I've noticed about these reality shows is that it goes contrary to expectations. I always expect the most capable folks to make it to the end. Instead the least competant slither their way to the end. I saw the Weakest Link on Wed. I would have loved to see the two doctors duke it out. Instead we get the moron and the girl who works for the Motion picture academy and can't get a movie question.

Well, I've got to eat. Hope to stop by soon.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, April 20, 2001 05:57:35 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

kathy: She's not trying to be antagonistic. She's just frustrated because the Orlando staff was informed months in advance and still were unable to accomodate her (best they could do was have IRCGoliath interpret at the opening ceremony). Additionally ... she has not found anywhere on the website any mention of accommodations of special needs.
Coyote the Bando
Friday, April 20, 2001 04:23:30 PM
IP: 64.243.214.27

Williow/Tara- I like them being togther just as I did when she was with Oz. Now about her and Tara relationship being boring or stael I think it is alright but I would like to see them express their love more but most likey the network is not ready for that but we did see them kiss in the Body.
Now about Williow being a lesbian she could be but closted while she was with Oz trying to be straight which no can change their sexuality your born with it, Or she could be bisexual that likes the same gender more.
School and being open- I came out when I was 15 in a half to my family but came out at school last year. I don't really bring up my sexuality that much at school but it seems alot of people ask me about it and what it be like to with the same sex. Most of the people at my school are open minded about it but then there are the some that think it is a sin and you'll burn in hell (yeah sure whatever!)There is alot of open kids at my school Which is a good thing know that your not alone!
Well I guess that is it
bye!
Sexy Queer - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Ohio
Friday, April 20, 2001 04:22:07 PM
IP: chil-vdsl-nrp-1.bright.net

XenaTrek > I'm not sure why you feel a need to threaten the current Gathering Staff due to the perceive slights you felt at the hands of past organizational committees. We have made a commitment to providing the best Gathering Experience we can to all fans. We have said so repeatedly. We have asked that the fans who plan to attend ACCOMODATE US by letting us know in advance of their special needs when they register so that we can plan accordingly. That's only fair. We don't hide our mail drop or other contact information. If you are coming let us know. If you need special seating, let us know. Do you need to be buddied up with an interpreter? Let us know. It's just that simple.

We hope to see everyone who can make it there!
Kathy Pogge
Gathering of the Gargoyles
Staff
kathy - [ gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Friday, April 20, 2001 04:13:09 PM
IP: rr-56-12-118.atl.mediaone.net

To The LA Gathering 2000 Staff: > Re: The Gathering 2K >>

I apologize for sounding a bit agitated in advance,
I am still unhappy w/ the last Gathering experience,
and is not sure if I want to come this one. (I
am also waiting to see if I can fund both this
trip and the one for SIGGRAPH that is also in LA in
July/August) .

I doubt that I will be the only hard of hearing/deaf
person to come to the gathering, especially since it
could be counted as a Star Trek convention w/ Sirtis
coming to the Gathering. I would like to know if
there is a firm commitment on accommodations for the
hearing impaired (as well as other impairments, i.e.
visual, wheelchair, etc.,).

Interpreters and organizations that provide
interpreters don't come cheap. Nor can they come at
the last minute. Many of them need weeks or even
months in advance to set up.

If I am able to go, (and/or other individuals with
'special needs') I do not want a repeat of the last
Gathering where I missed out more than half of the
'happenings' and felt that I did not get my money's worth. If there will be a 'radio show' aka
script reading it would help to have a few extra
copies on hand. If there will be Q&A, provide the
panel w/ a microphone, and/or set up some kind of
arrangement.

I do not want to be stuck in LA w/o accommodations, etc., I am also trying to prevent an unnecessary Civil Complaint
by anyone in accordance of the ADA.

Thank you for your time and cooperation.

XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Friday, April 20, 2001 03:47:54 PM
IP: dialup-64.156.99.182.orlando1.level3.net

I will confess that I don't have that much in the way of strong feelings, one way or the other, about Willow going out with Tara. (I do miss Oz a bit in general, though I understand that that was because of Seth Green's movie commitments.) On the bright side, though, there are at least the Buffy tie-in novels out there which (so far as I know) are set during the high school years to date, and many of which do take place while Willow and Oz were still a couple. (I just read one - a library copy; I'm somewhat on the cheap side, I'll admit - the other day; I can't recall the title, but it involves Buffy and Co. having to deal with a pack of ghouls that show up in Sunnydale looking for food, and, as an additional complication, a lone vampire named Solitaire who can actually survive in daylight - but I won't say how; it's a surprise. It was quite good, actually - they had a particularly entertaining sub-plot where Willow gets stuck having to write a "History of Sunnydale" paper for her history class, and agonizes over whether to include all that information about the Hellmouth, in the name of truth, or to leave it out and participate in the grand cover-up but have a much more normal paper. Now that's one drawback of living on the Hellmouth that most of us never saw coming, I imagine.)

And a note to TGS:Pendragon readers: Don't worry; we have no intention of breaking up our own wizard-and-werewolf couple.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, April 20, 2001 03:43:40 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup116.dialsprint.net

Lexy> EM'd you. (Hugs)

Gside> <<Then I am fated to live out my days alone.>> ‘S what I thought too. Trust your feelings, Luke.

LM> Well, I use the CR archive itself. I'm sure I would use the other pages, if I knew where they were. As for your other comments...

<> Well, I'm sorry you felt betrayed by an admittedly elaborate, but we thought way too over the top for anyone to take seriously, April Fools gag. But it was a JOKE. So, for that matter, was the bit about giving each other warnings.

<<So how/why do so many people confuse you for one person, as you claim?>> Well, check the archives. I've lost count of the number of responses misdirected between the two of us. It eventually culminated a few months back with Robby posting a list of our similarities, which lead in turn, to a series of "Aaron & Robby are not the same because..." posts. I'll see if I can find the exact link.

<<Just another thing to add to the Gargoyles fandom historic journals.>> If you like. I don't think it really merits a mention tho'.

<< Now will your actions, and said fame, become something you two grow to regret or become proud of? Only time will tell.>> Um, unless a flame war starts over this, I don't see there being anything to regret. We amused the CR for a week or so. This is, more or less, on the level of the old, "who/what is Todd Jensen?" discussions. I doubt anyone will even remember this in a year, and people will be back to mistaking us for each other again.

(BTW, I didn't think you and FS would fall for it for a minute, since he's done work for me, and I paid him by personal check. Unless I'd spent a *lot* of time putting together this identity, and, if that were the case, I certainly wouldn't blow it all away on a whim)

FS> <<Aaron//Robby: <Sigh. No. We are separate people, both of whom post here.> Ok, ok...
So, where did the last name Wheeler come from?>> It's mine. It was always mine. Robby and I are still the same people we were before April Fools. See my response to LM.

Josh><<<<Never met the quiet one>>: Who the hell do you think hangs out in here?>> Yeah! <<Anyone who cares/has advice: How would YOUR parents feel if you wanted to jump on a plane and visit a friend you made over the internet? Especially if that friend was in another country?>> Well, my dad would freak, but I don't live with him, so it wouldn't matter. My mom would probably let me go.

Allaine><<Btw, they've announced plans to have the original Survivor contestants (Rich, Sue, etc) on WL in May.>> Ten bucks says Hatch gets voted off first.

Caliope> Happy B-day.

Lain> Unfortunately, the advice I was going to give you was screw your dad and run away. You say you don't want to be disowned by him... What the heck is he doing for you now? Has he given you the money for next semester yet? Take it and go. Listen to me. I know from what I speak. I work for my father. I don't really hate him anymore, even though he can be a complete dick sometimes. Why? ‘Cause he's my boss. And I need my job. Why do I need this job? ‘Cause I was too much of a f**king chickensh!t in high school to get a real job, so I just stayed on as an office boy, like I had since I was 14. This was supposed to facilitate future studies to be a lawyer. Well, guess what? I've been here for a third of my life, and counting, and all I've really learned is that I don't want to be a lawyer. I'm 21 and still a sophomore in college, I have no job skills, no work history, the constant knowledge that I probably couldn't have gotten this job on my own merits, and, in the words of Gilliam from Outlaw Star "I fear for my future prospects." So take that leap. Do what I never did. Get the Hell as far away from your dad as you can, before he f**ks your life up worse.

Gods I'm depressed now.

But welcome Siofra. Please deposit your sanity with the three-headed admin and you'll fit in quite nicely.

Oh, and for SS, and anyone else who doubts our identity, here are, not one, but two pictures of Robby and I together. We're the two guys down front in pics three and five. Just click my name.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, April 20, 2001 02:44:42 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

Holy sh!t I missed a lot.

Kit: <>: Naturally. It's cuz I'm right. <<Veruca>>: Damn...that chick was HOT. <<Don't worry, Willow, everybody knows>>: Is it just me, or do a lot of people just assume that geeks/unpopular people are gay/asexual? <<I've only really experienced relationships with men>>: All of my bisexual female friends have told me that they love playing with women, but they'd rather die than actually date one. "We're so much better looking than men, but we're so fscking annoying!" my friend Nico said to me, wondering how it is that guys put up with girls at all (she's bisexual, btw). I thought it was hysterical. If that offends you, sorry, but I wanted to mention it.

SJ: <<join the evil that is the Republican party>>: Hey! I'm a republican, thank you very much. <<Fred is being very civil>>: No, he isn't. He immediately started with "are you calling me a hypocrite?" and got all defensive when Doug had said nothing of the like. <<Lain as a cop>>: LOL. I'd pay money to see that.

Siofra: Welcome to the CR, first. Second, you have a beautiful name. I wish my name meant something cool in another language. <<Industrial Design major>>: Okay, you can join the club. <>: Actually, you do. But now you're not alone, we all feel like dorks 8-).

Warpmind: <>: Actually, its possible. They'd just travel very slowly, limited by the speed of the water coming out of the squirt guns. <>: Whoa, they pay SS in Norway at your age? They don't pay it here until age 65 or something. <>: Let the people who step on other's feet unite! <<you'd be an excellent profiler>>: And Lain is already a huge fan of Pretender, so she's got a head-start!

Allaine: <<Oz vs. Tara>>: Good points all around. I, for one, couldn't give a rat's ass if they get back together, I just want the character back. Oz ruled. Its not about comparing the two or them vying for Willow's affections, cuz quite frankly the only relationship I find entertaining in that show is Spike/Buffy (they're so funny together, or not together, or whatever they are).

Kyryn: <<Nobody ever said that sanity was a requirement to be an editor>>: I'd think it would be qualification for immediate dismissal! <<Necessary Roughness>>: I loved that movie. So do all of my friends. We've held superbowl parties and wound up watching that instead.

Caliope: <<not an ounce of motherly insticts in ya!>>: ::Looks down pants:: Ah! That explains it. <<its just boring>>: Yeah, but when you look at your toned, flat stomach, it'll all be worthwhile. <<Ah the burdes of being a babe!>>: Modesty being the first...

Doug: <>: I'd advise against a visit to UC Berkeley, where there are plenty of nice figures on..."paper-bag girls". <<the weirdness of lesbians probably pales in comparison>>: Only if there aren't any right-wing republicans in office.

DPH: <<the CDs arrived yesterday>>: My friends dad ordered a G4 cube and a cinema display, along with soundsticks and an iSub. Everything arrived in 2 days...except the cube, which arrived a week later.

Hyperion: <>: Its a matter of point of view. Everyone thinks they're parents are demonspawned. I know mine aren't, they've just made some mistakes, as all parents do. Some I blew way out of proportion, and some I really didn't yell at them enough for. But they're not demonspawn. <<Scantily-clad sci-fi chicks are cool!>>: No Sh!t. Who's quote was that, by the way, I'd like to add it to my great quotes page.

Lain: So much to say. <<legal for women to go topless in the summer>>: In light of that, I would like to say that YES I am almost 75% likely coming to Canada this summer. Also, my cousin said I could stay as long as I like, so I might come visit you for more than a day, if that's cool with you. <<affirming ownership over the other party>>: Or just bragging, as couples are prone to doing. <<if you see it all, theres nothing else to see>>: To quote my own fic "never complement a women's body unless you're staring at it in the buff". <<scholarships>>: I don't the secret service gives scholarships to canadians! Or maybe they do, but its in worthless Canadian dollars so it only pays for a couple years. j/k

Kit: <<I'm feeling lucky if I remember to wear my underwear each day>>: I think more women should forget to wear their underwear every day, but that's just me.

Rayvn: <>: I don't think they're as interested in watching you as they are in having YOU watch someone else, you sick little voyeur you! ::looks over shoulder:: <<psych tests>>: Tests which I don't honestly think anyone in here would pass.

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.
-hyoo, slashdot.org

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, April 20, 2001 02:06:07 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-154-153.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Siofra: Welcome to the room. Enjoy yer stay ... I'll try to forget you're from That Other School In Ann Arbor. **adjusts his MSU band jacket** ;) j/k

Ahh yes, I finally get a Saturday off, and it has to RAIN for the weekend!! Grr ... I'm never gonna get that bloody tuneup done, I've been workin' on it since flippin' February!! :P

**SURVIVOR STUFF AHEAD**
Well, the local radio station mentioned that most Survivor people on the on-line polls are considering my guy Keith to be the Richard of this season. I'm not sure if he should feel good about that (since it implies he's the one people are picking to win) or insulted (considering the guy he's being compared to) ... **shrugs** Ah well. I still think it was so wonderfully cute last night when he proposed to his girlfriend at the end of the luxury challenge.

Now that it's down to four ... it'll be interesting to see what happens. Will Elizabeth be the first to go, or will she be able to influence any Ogakors to keep her? Obviously she's been influential enough that she's the lone Kucha left ... since Rodger all but *asked* them to vote him off in order to protect her.
**END SURVIVOR STUFF!**

Ravyn: **huggles right back** :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, April 20, 2001 01:47:28 PM
IP: 64.243.214.27

Willow / Tara now starring in "Where the Boys Aren't" volume 69: Frankly, I don't like the Willow / Tara relationship for two main reasons---one, Oz and Willow. They're perfect together. And two, cause Amber is just a snore to me.

I always liked Oz and Willow together. I sort of have the reaction to them as some Buffy fans have with Buffy and Angel (there are some who vehemently oppose Buffy or Angel hooking up with anyone other than each other). I just like them together. Part of it is because I like that wonderful little munchkin named Seth Green, he amuses me (and he is a midget. Have you seen him? If he clears 5'6", I'd be shocked.). I just like them together.

Also, Tara just bores me. They've never done anything remotely interesting with her character, outside of the lesbian relationship. The big revelation about her past....what, she's from some hick town that frowns on witchcraft? Get the paddles, I think I'm having a heart attack. Simply can't stand the surprise. She's just delegated to the role of "Willow's girlfriend". She's not even as important as Anya, at least in my perception. She just bores me. If they give her some more interesting scenes and storylines, I think my tune will change.

As for their lesbian relationship, I have no problem with that. It's sort of a nonissue. I mean, it's two chicks together, and.....well, *one* of them is really cute....As long as they keep presenting it in the way they have been--as in, this is just another relationship, not "Hey world, look at us, we're the new Xena and Gabrielle!" in your face, than things will be fine.
Good point about their relationship being a little too perfect though. I'm waiting for the big catfight any day now.

And just to make a gross generalization about sexuality that I'm sure will make some people mad with me or at the very least curse me for being "ignorant"....I have to say that if you have sex with both genders, but prefer one over the other, be it male or female...you're NOT bisexual. You're either hetero or homosexual. If you prefer one over the other, it doesn't matter if you have sex with both genders, you're not truly bisexual. If you like both equally, that's the case, than you are bisexual, but I would argue that such a thing is almost nonexistent.

And lest someone thinks that I don't like gay or bi people because I say such a thing, that's not true. I would never single them out, because I dislike everyone equally.
Seriously, though, I love gay people. Sometimes I think they have things a little more together than us straight arrows. But my own personal opinions on the validity of bisexuality are somewhat different than is typically accepted by society at large.

More G.I.Joe goodness!: I've just found out that, starting this September, Image Comics will be producing a monthly G.I. Joe comic book, to pick up right where the cartoon show left off.
If they have Snake Eyes, the Crimson Twins, and the Dreads, I'll be happy.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Friday, April 20, 2001 01:32:27 PM
IP: 66-44-58-23.s23.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Siofra> Welcome to the room! :) I really like your name, too. That's very pretty. :) Good luck with the Industrial Design major. Sounds cool.

lain> Well, I'm not sure what the Secret Service requirements are, but I think for the CIA you have to be an American citizen and go through some pretty rugged psychological evaluations. I don't think the CIA does any scholarships, though...but I could be wrong. And my advice is to do whatever makes *you* happy...take that leap and go with it. You should've seen my parents freak when I told them I was going to take auto shop. And it ended up being the best thing I ever did. :)

Not saying how I know this stuff about the CIA. They could be watching...j/k Actually, they've been recruiting people around the campus here...actually invited a few college kids out to dinner to talk with them...and I was one of them...**looks around, trying to see if she's being watched** ;)

Warpmind> Coolies! I'll see you and Lynati at the Gathering, then. :)

Jannie> Good luck with the move! :)

Coyote> **huggles** :)
Ravyn
Friday, April 20, 2001 01:09:02 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Sorry about not posting for a couple of days, things have been a little busy.

Imzadi>><<Semesters vs. quarters>>I'll grant you that, but the nice thing is the fact that you have two breaks where you are *done*, nothing to worry about. It doesn't seem like 50% more class, it seems like 33% less. Well, to me, anyway. For better or worse, tho, we now have 15 week terms + finals week. The cool thing about that is 32 weeks of school instead of 33. <<E&M>>There is no curve. Everyone in the lecture (~500) could pass or fail. Your grade depends solely on what *you* score on exams and in recitation classes. At least I pulled off a C on the exam. Although when I saw the solution for a problem I didn't have time to finish, it made we want to cry since I had thought about doing it that way then thought, "nah, too easy." <<GI Joes: I wasn't allowed to play with these, ... she thought it would make me violent.>>From my perspective, sometimes trying to keep someone away from something only increases its allure. We kept guns in our house, and neither me or my sister were inclined to go into the gun cabinet because we knew we only had to ask our dad and he would pull out the .22 and supervise us. On the other hand, if we ever did go into it without his permission, we knew there would be hell to pay. The tradeoff worked well for us, but I guess your mileage may vary.

Lady Mystic>>Hello fellow Michigander.
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Friday, April 20, 2001 12:34:10 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

I believe that ratings is the furthest thing from anyone's mind with regards to the Willow/Tara relationship. First of all, they've never promoted it in any way (and they could if they wanted to - does anyone remember the hype surrounding Sarah Michelle Gellar and Lindsay Sloane' "kiss" on Grosse Pointe, which was hardly a kiss at all?) Second, they've only kissed once (which, btw, was fabulous), and originally the WB people wanted Joss Whedon to cut the scene. He basically told them to butt out and they did. Third, you can't have it both ways - you can't claim it's being done for shock effect or ratings, and then complain that they never do anything (not compared to sex scenes involving Buffy/Angel, Buffy/Riley, Spike/Harmony, etc.). Finally, the creators have publicly stated that they have no intentions of promoting the relationship, and while I'm a cynical guy, I'm not ready to accuse them of lying. Also, Willow just lied to Tara's face in last week's episode, so all the signs right now are pointing in the direction of a big argument. Kind of like late last season, when Buffy and Xander were shocked by her coming out and Willow later accused Buffy of not being able to handle her having a girlfriend.

Honestly, I think it works more as political statement than ratings (not to mention the fact that depictions of homosexuality usually chase away more viewers than they do attract them, such as All My Children, where a lot of fans were enraged at the idea that Erica Kane could have a lesbian daughter). Tara/Amber Benson has become a role model to a lot of women like her (I'm sure some of you will have remarks about _that_).

Btw, today TVGuide.com offered a poll as to who is the "Weakest Link" on Buffy? So all the anti-Tara people are running over there to vote for Amber, and all the pro-Tara people - well, what can you do except write a letter? It's not like we're going to fight back by voting for _other_ people, which wouldn't be fair. I don't even think it's a very nice question period. "Who do you hate the most?" Does that serve _any_ positive purpose?

Beth: At least someone agrees with me ;)

Sincerely, Allaine
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Friday, April 20, 2001 11:39:52 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

Well, tomorrow is moving day. I'll be offline for about 2 weeks beginning tonight. *sniffles*

Lady Mystic> I understand what you are saying and I feel pretty much the same way about posting in here.

Willow/Tara: I see absolutely no value in their relationship and think that they only reason that the show has a lesbian relationship is for the ratings.... to be "in", politically correct, liberal, etc. Personally, I want to puke everytime they are shown all lovey dovey.

Weakest Link: I think it's so-so. The hostest is comical in her insults... I think the questions are a bit hard under the circumstances. *shrugs* then again, my brain is a bit fried lately and I'm feeling lucky if I remember to wear my underwear each day.

Lexxy> *grimaces* ohhhboy, you and your mom are in a tough situation! I wish I had some magical words of wisdom for you. *hugs* Have you called a family court type attorney? They also have free services available.

Doug> right on, friend!

Kit> that was funny, huh? *L* I laughed so hard!! As I said, the older I become, the more true it is!

New comic! Thanks to my comic guidance counselor ;) He has pointed me to the direction of yet another great new comic =) Obergeist by Top Cow. Very unusual comic, but interesting. Based on Nazi's and the concentration camp experiements, it throws in sci-fi, emotions, regrets, etc.

well, I'm stressed to the maxx so I'm going to go find some cotton candy to eat.
Jannie
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:34:07 AM
IP: 167.houston-32rh15rt.tx.dial-access.att.net

*Warpmind enters, laughing loose various body parts.*
Hee, hee... all Diablo 2 fans, click my name. Blizzard's April's Fool joke - adding a Deckard Cain rap in the expansion pack. ROFLMAO!

Kit: No sweat.

Kyryn: True... };)

Hyperion: Dude, there are at least two of us, with... no, wait... my mother is okay, but it's her entire family I'm not sure about. Actually, I'm pretty sure about them... to my grief...

Anyway, click my link, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:23:09 AM
IP: mp-217-241-88.daxnet.no

hyperion>> OMG secret service SCHOLARSHIPS?!?!?!! SIGN ME UP!!!!!! oh man.. *drool* info info info yes yes *drool drool*

.. course im not an american so that miiiight present an eeeensy weensy problem there... but.. INFO INFO PLEEEASE!!!
: D : D
lain
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:03:54 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

well HECK.. everyone ELSE is doing it so..

gunjy and i got the sexuality bit out of the way the first week we met online...... this means when i go visit him in texas, (the land of hot weather and shorts and tank tops..) we can get some shades and stand on the street corner and compare notes..
"oooo hey theres a seven.."
"seven???!?!? DUDE!! shes an eight at LEAST"
"you think so??"
"yeah.. WOAH number NINE at three o'clock!!"
"heh heheheh..."

; )
of course.. theres the law about it being legal for women to go topless in the summer up here so.. *winkaty wink*

; )

yeah yeah i admit it.. i like willow and tara better than willow and oz. though i admit i thought oz was cool too.
reasons for liking willow and tara: i think they work well together. contrary to kit and doug, i LIKE the fact that they dont smooch and touch a lot where people can see them.. doing that in pivate is ALOT better (IMO) because when you do it for the world (as it were) its almost like you are affirming ownership over the other party.. you know what i mean? and i HATE that idea.. no tonsil-hockey and/or groping in public for me, thanks very much. i love how their relationship and how they act romantically in it is so soft and gentle. its not "in your face" like it was with buffy and angel. i remember one show a few years ago where the only thing i remember about the show was buffy and angel eating each others faces. it was boring. much better to leave it to the imagination, i think. its kind of like people who walk around wearing really revealing clothing ALL THE TIME. it gets dull. i mean, if you see it all, theres nothing else to see..
thats what i think, anyway.
also.. i have had the impression that alyson is kinda bitter towards seth for leaving.. realistically i dont think he will be back for much more than the season finale (if even then).

thanks to all for their comments about my situation. i still dont know what to do.. i know i WANT to go to this other school but i think im too much of a chickensh!t to do it. and thats frustrating. i feel like im all talk and no do. grrrrrrr.. all i ever do is complain and now the chance to get away comes and im to scared to go, theres too much little stuff in the way... im a moron, i tell you.

yeah i DO love and respect my dad. i think hes wrong though. i think he was wrong to stuff me back in school five days after my mum died last year, wrong to try to make me take a degree that i dont want to take.
i think i will have to stay here but i feel horribly guilty because i KNOW i will be wasting his money, and that would be worse... i dont even try anymore. there is little that inspires me. theres lots of things i USED to like doing that im just lethargic over now, and i dont think thats such a good thing. i need some INSPIRATION..
at least im listening to music again, i went through this patch where i just used to sit in silence and do nothing for hours on end.. now i just obsess about the comment room and listen to music and radio-canada international.. in french for a challenge.
oh and look at my books occasionally.. if theyre lucky.. and gab to people online.

my friend (known only as "plenty of blueberries") invited me out for dinner and a movie on saturday as a celebration of exams being over. that should be good at least. get me out of here for a bit..
dad was going to come move me out on sunday but i asked him to change it to monday.. theres stuff i want to do on sunday..

anyway i have two exams today.. astronomy and psych (drugs and behaviour) so i have to go fry my brain for three hours solid with the astro.. come back and crash for an hour and then have my brain turn to mush for another three hours at 7pm.
ooooo and lucky me, i have ANOTHER final exam at 9am tomorrow morning..
yuck..

if i come in babbling insanely later, at least youll know why..

scuse me but can i be you for awhile? my dog wont bite if you sit real still
i got the anti-christ in the kitchen yellin at me again, yeah, i can hear that
my scream got lost in a paper cup, i think theres a heaven where some screams have gone
i got 25 bucks and a cracker, do you think its enough
to get us there?
-tori

love and thanks,
lain "skating around the true who i am" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Friday, April 20, 2001 10:00:11 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

<Hyperion enters {through a door this time, no less} and looks puzzled>
What, am I the only one here without demonspawned parents?
<Shakes head and returns to normal ambience.>

Sevarius Jr.> Into the empire of the Vampire, where dreams turn into fright...to a land called Transylvania , where life begins at night...
And you forgot about the corpses piled on top of you that you have to claw through...
(Pay no attention the Mage over in the corner...)

Lexy> In the words of a friend of mine: "That arrogant little punk! I'll straighten him out yet!" Ok, so I dont' have alot of constructive information. Problems here have kept me from my usual resuources, but I'd see about finding a lawyer versed in family law and make sure that the payment is based on a percentage of winnings. Unfortanately, although I can quote chapter and verse about business law, family law side is a little lacking...

Lian> Not a hell of a lot I can say here that hasn't been said before. As Kyryn said, eventually the break will come and it probably will be better if it's on your terms. Keep in mind that college in the states can get pretty pricy, althought I'm sure you can get all kinds of scholaships to help you out. Espically if you're looking into criminal justice, I'm *almost* certain the United States Secret Service offers scholarships, I'm not sure about the requirements, but I'm sure I can find out if you wish.
There are times when you need to just close your eyes and make a leap of faith. Leaving family is always scary, regardless of the circumstances, but I prefer to live by the "You'll never know unless you try" theory. It's helped me more than it's hurt and I've always been able to learn from it.
All I'm saying is that if you decide to go, make sure you have a solid plan of action. It seems like you've got a good friend there in the US and that's always a good starting point.
Follow your heart, cast your cares to the wind and always have a Plan "B" :-)
BTW: What college is it? If it's Calvin College in Michigan, I'd reconsider...read up in the Calvinists if you don't believe me :-)

Ok, enough rambling...I've got a blockade to run...

************
"Hey! Scantily-clad sci-fi chicks are cool!"
"Actully, I am a male of my spicies"
"Lets see some jumping jacks right now, mister!"
************
Kyrie Elison down the road that I must travel!
Kyrie Elison through the darkness of the night!
Kyrie Elison, where I'm going will you follow?
Kyrie Elison on a highway in the light!
-Mister Mister "Kyrie"

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Friday, April 20, 2001 09:43:17 AM
IP: ba-056.adsl.stargate.net

This is somewha funny. When I ordered my PC, I also ordered some blank CDs to go with it (yep, it has a CD burner). Well, the CDs arrived yesterday, but the rest of system has not arrived yet.

Lain - apparently, I'm not the only one whose dad is an idiot.

**INCOMING PARENT RANT**
I found out from my brother [who found out from our aunt) that my dad was thinking about selling the property I live on before the idiot told me. A big thing like that should be told to me 1st because of how it could affect me. Frankly, there is no way I can have contigency money set aside for that.
**END PARENT RANT**

Anything else, yep.

I have had sinus infections before. I have an appointment to see a doctor today at 2:00pm (I can't afford to stay over 45 minutes because of work). I am going to try to visit my friend today, if she is still in the hospital.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, April 20, 2001 09:10:27 AM
IP: max1-33.cwy.cei.net

Aingeal: You found your other half? Alright, congrats! :) Knew it would happen sooner or later. Good luck with those projects and welcome back.

Lexy, Lain, Daniel & James' family (Sammi included): You all remain in my prayers. Hope things are going ok.

Kyryn: Great advice to Lain. :) You were an extra in Necessary Roughness? Cool, I like that movie. :) <Okami's putting himself through college one class at a time> I didn't know. I wish him luck.

Calliope: The tests are at SelectSmart.com. Which reminds me- I still haven't taken any of them. <grimaces> Put me down as another person who dislikes hourglass figures- they attract my eyes, yeah, but they're also usually not clad well- I can better appreciate a beautiful face.

Willow & Tara: I too like Willow & Oz better, mostly because their relationship seemed like actual well-written love and Willow & Tara seems more like it's being done for shock effect and to get people to watch ("Hey, look, lesbians!") with the occasional bit of comedy. I mean, the relationship is just too sweet and perfect- there aren't any fights, there isn't really any need to be together expressed by the parties involved, they seem disturbingly happy together (the disturbing thing being there's little touching, kissing, etc. involved- but maybe I don't understand lesbian relationships. How could I, I'm a guy!). Sure there's jealousy now and then, but it's always quickly resolved with expressions of love and "Don't worry, I'm yours"- when Kit or I get jealous and the other one of us has to rebuild the love between us, it usually takes all night (though granted, things usually get resolved in the first hour and then we're just enjoying being together). I don't know, maybe if they would put the relationship more out in the open and deal with it more realistically instead of everybody just politely accepting it I would like it better (they do live on a Hellmouth though, so the weirdness of lesbians probably pales in comparison to demons and so on, must remember that). I also liked Willow's chemistry with Oz better, that relationship seemed better written than her and Tara, which just happened quickly instead of slowly building up. <shrugs> Oh well, like expressing my opinion is gonna change anything. I'll just shut up and see what the writers turn out. <crosses his fingers that it will be good>

Beth: Yeah, they're sweet, but to be realistic a relationship has to have more to it than sweetness. IMO anyway. <shrugs> Though to each their own. I too would like them better if Willow would stop bringing up her sexuality in every episode like you mentioned. When someone has to insist they are a certain way a lot, it's usually because they doubt it (and if Willow doubts it, that should be addressed!- does Tara expect her to be gay and thus is she becoming her bitch?- That wouldn't be good). Like I said before, I'm just gonna wait and see what the writers turn out, try to enjoy the story. Probably the best thing.

On your girlfriends getting close, well, if I were you, I'd talk to David about what to do. <freaked-out scream from Beth> Joking, joking! <grins> I realize you may not be ready for that yet either, but hey, he's gonna have to deal with your sexuality sometime if you two are gonna date seriously. For the present, I agree with you that it's not your place to ask them what's going on. I'd just keep things as they are, let them touch, snuggle with, and want to be with each other as much as they want while you keep on wondering, and sooner or later someone else will notice what's going on and ask what the heck's up- then you can give the girls your support when they blow up at THAT person. Meantime you just sit back, worry about your own stuff, let things develop as they will. I'll ask Kit to come online with more advice for you tonight- she knows more about these situations than me. <grimaces> Good luck dealing with things whatever happens. <notices Beth is still glaring at him> And I swear I was just joking about David! <sulks out>
Doug
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:53:45 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.248.dlls.grid.net

Hello! *grinz* hope everyone is peachy! ^_^

Robby> <<Kodomo No Omocha. A pretty good series actually, but it only has four episodes...>> Whatta ya mean 4 eps?! I've seel like 7 tapes of it with well over 4 eps each...*confuzled*

Josh> <<I'm not touching THAT one with a 10-foot pole.>> lol sheesh! not an ounce of motherly insticts in ya! :P <<Have YOU ever tried telling a girl to change any part of her physical appearance?>> lol you dont tell her dear, in this case you just draw her that way :P <<Yeah, but if you can draw clothes on, then there's no downside.>>excatly my point with the hair! <> Yeah isnt it great! I go to a place in the metropolitan area thats called Solid Rock, tho I havent bothered asking how high they actualy are, the high ones look to be about 3 stories high I think.<<spend enough time doing it and you'll be able to do more pull-ups than anyone in your weight class>> lol my best frined has been trying to get me to do those sit ups and push ups for years! I go roller blading with her often and swiming and such things but not just excersise for its own porpose, its just boring. I might just give in soon tho if she keeps whining, who knows :P

Kit> <<Very good point about hourglass figures, I agree 100%.>> I know! If things fit at the hips, they're too big at the waist! Ah the burdes of being a babe! *LOL* Hey, can you be so kind as to point me in the direction of those anime tests everyone took last week. Or at least the person who posted the link to look them up. Thanx! :)

Well, I should be going, must reserch Lichtenstine! Bye guys!!! *HUGZ all and skips on out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:44:42 AM
IP: 136.145.70.210

****Kyryn steps into the room.****

Josh><<You LIVE in Denton?>> Yep.<<Like, its a real place?>> Well, according to the movie "Necessary Roughness," which shot at the University of North Texas, I'm a fictional person who went to a fictional university.;) Funny, I grew up in Los Angeles and didn't end up as an extra in a movie until I moved to Texas to do my graduate work. <<Does it have billboards in the cemeteries?>> Not to my knowledge, but I believe there are a few across the street from the cemetery. BTW, they also shot some of the street scenes in "Armaggedon" in town; and some of the scenes from "the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" were shot at the courthouse on the square. All in all, it's a pleasantly quirky little town, but I like it.

Lain> The only thing that I can say (no offense) is that your father is weird! On the serious side....do you want to spend the rest of your life trying to make other people happy at the expense of your own health and happiness? You need to make that decision. Yes, it is good to help others, but it should never be at the expense of your own physical and mental well being. The old saying of "physician, heal thyself" does apply here. The breaking point with your father is going to come sooner or later. For your own sake, I would suggest finding a way to make the break. It is better if you make the choice to do it yourself. I'm not going to lie and say it will be easy. It is almost always agonizingly, gut-wrenchingly hard to have any kind of argument with your parents, but there comes a time when you need to clearly set YOUR boundaries and re-define the relationship in terms of you being an adult. Most parents have a very hard time letting go and acknowledging that you are grown up enough to make your own decisions. Your friend's mom sounds like a very supportive person. It is always better to make this kind of break when you have some support to help you, both physically and emotionally. Yes, it will probably be hard on you financially, but if you really want to pursue your own dreams, you will find a way. My husband, Okami, has been putting himself through school -- one class at a time, since we both have to work full-time jobs --- for a number of years. One of these days he'll get finished, but we're doing it ourselves.

I've learned over the years to carefully weigh pluses and minuses in a situation. If the aggravation outweighs the benefits, it is usually not worth staying in that situation. I wish you all the best in whatever decision you make.

SJ><<You probably don't get that, but someone out there who is a White Wolf fan probably has a grin on their face.>> Wyrmspawn! Die writhing under the claws of the Garou! *lol* I lean towards the conservative side, but I'm still a nasty little independent at heart. *grin*

Siofra> Welcome to the room!

Daniel Johnson> Please pass my condolences to Sammi. The loss of a loved one is never easy, but at least he went knowing that he was loved and she knew that he loved her.

Warps> Sanity? Nobody ever said that sanity was a requirement to be an editor....:)

Later, All!

****Kyryn disappears.****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:31:26 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

*enters*

Ooooh. My first discussion. ;)

Oz vs. Tara>Personally, I like Tara and Willow together. I think part of the reason for me liking them is because I don't see too many same-sex couples on TV that don't break up or end up having their relationship cause problems for other people who can't deal with it. I mean, aren't they just so sweet together? Awwwww...I mean, I want a girlfriend like Tara! Those two are just really sweet together, and they don't have to deal with problems happening because they're in love (right now). Sure, I would prefer that Willow doesn't bring up her sexuality every episode ("Hel-lo! Gay now!"). I mean, I don't think a gay or bi person brings up their sexuality in every conversation they make. I know I don't with my mom or one of my friends at school (course, I'm in the closet so maybe I'm a bad example).

Which reminds, I have two girl friends at school who are really making me wonder...Now, my radar isn't fully operating(considering I go to school with a homophobic student body), but two of my girl friends really seem affectionate with each other. I mean, during breaks between classes, when they're together, they're always latched on to each other and snuggling. I haven't seen them kiss, but one day when one of them wasn't at school with us, my other friend whined saying, "I want my Jessica!!!". Now, my friends aren't really the hugging type (they're rather phsyco with enjoying mauling people), but are these two in love or what? I can't tell if they're just being silly friends or girlfriends. :P

And I don't think it's my place to ask them. I don't want to make them angry or uncomfortable or anything. Plus the question of my sexuality might come up and I'm not ready to tell them I get turned on while watching all the pretty scantly clad girls walking around campus. ;P
Beth H.
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:23:29 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Hello.... i am alive, just wanted to note that. Ive ben... distracted.....

My prayers are with those who need them, and i e-mailed you lexy.

if anyone wants to pray for me, I've got final projects out the wazoo to get done, and finals next week. :(

on the good side.. i've been distracted by finding my other half. He's like me, but just different enough to complete me nearly perfectly, and we'll grow into that.

I've got to run.. work to do... later!
Aingeal
Heaven
Friday, April 20, 2001 08:14:38 AM
IP: iprism.southernvirginia.edu

Warpmind: Exactly. Thanks for your support.

Jannie: Funny e-mail. I'm glad that Doug is all those things and more. :)

Allaine: Good reasons for liking Tara. I guess I could like her for all those reasons, but still I want Oz back more. He and Willow just had a great chemistry together that I think is lacking with Tara (chemistry's there, but IMO it's not as great). I also think Xander & Anya are a lot sweeter than Tara & Willow, maybe that's just personal bias. There's also the fact that Willow & Oz could touch, kiss, etc. on screen without any S&P problems, and since Willow & Tara can't do that, what I see of them together doesn't seem much of a happy relationship to me. Now, granted, relationships and love can be implied, understated, happen off-screen and be refferred to, etc, but I'm really not used to romance stories being told that way. I also don't like that it's never really been defined whether Willow is lesbian or bi- yeah, she's said twice now that she's exclusively lesbo, but she was just so happy with Oz right up until his affair with Veruca that it seems out of character for her to just change her orientation like that. They've never referenced Bad Vampire Willow being bi with this development either, and they should have. Nor have they really dealt with her friends' reactions to her change in orientation- it's just "Don't worry, Willow, everybody knows" and no real reactions other than polite acceptance of the relationship, which to me seems a little unrealistic, I guess. <sighs> Maybe I just feel this way, because, though I consider myself bisexual and have had sex with people of both genders numerous times, I've only really experienced relationships with men. I don't know what lesbian relationships are like, I've never had one. I have many girlfriends, sure, but they're girls I'm friends with, I'm not in romantic relationships with them- I'm sure things are different for a girl who is in a romantic relationship with another girl- like Willow and Tara. So because I don't really understand their relationship and the feelings behind it, having never lived through similar feelings myself, I'm biased against Willow and Tara, and toward Willow and Oz. That must be it. :)

So, in conclusion, I have the opinion I do because I need to better understand lesbian relationships and lesbians. I'm sure many other Willow-and-Tara dislikers could say the same. Oz was cute also, and real cute with Willow, but that's beside the point.

Thank you for not wanting to start a flame war. I hope I'm not starting one either.
Kit
Friday, April 20, 2001 07:39:26 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.145.dlls.grid.net

Oz vs. Tara: I genuinely liked Oz. It just so happens that I like Tara more. Somewhere during the fourth season Tara replaced Willow as my favorite character (even though I now like Willow more than I did during the first three seasons because her byplay with Tara makes her more interesting), and I became especially inclined to defend her when, after New Moon Rising, a lot of people started posting really vicious and unfair things about both Tara and Amber Benson. Everyone who took it as a personal affront that "their Willow" was a lesbian/bisexual (that's never been made clear) really needed to turn the volume down on their own egos.

For a long time Willow was really tied down by social stereotypes. Thinking she wasn't cool because she was the computer nerd became thinking she was because she was dating a musician. Now she takes this very serious step with all sorts of repercussions, and she doesnt care what others think. Plus, I always thought she looked at herself as Oz's girlfriend, like she belonged to him. Now Tara belongs to her ("I am, you know. Yours.").

Personally I think Willow and Tara are the sweetest and most romantic couple on TV, hetero or same-sex. Few pleasures are greater than watching them interact with each other, or writing stories about them. Amber is an extremely talented actress, and Tara has always been more than she seems. She has this mysterious quality to herself that was underlined by such revelations as her powers and her family secrets. Lately they've also been developing her relationships with characters other than Willow, too (Buffy and Tara, especially - leaving class in "Triangle," waiting at the hospital in "The Body"). Plus I like how their wardrobes match :D

As for all the people whose hatred for Tara and obsession with Willow and Oz getting back together has reached the point where they have websites about it - PPPPPBBBBBSSSSTTTT! :P Hey, maybe I need anger-management classes too.

Which leads me to "The Job", which on Wednesday aired the final episode in its six-week run. I thought it was the funniest one of them all. It involved Denis Leary being forced to take anger-management classes after he attacked a cabbie, and Keith David pops up early on with a funny line about the people who videotaped the incident. (Btw, the actor who Keith replaced is now the captain on that Special Unit 2 show, ironically enough.) I hope the show gets renewed (any comedy w/o a laugh track deserves a chance).

No offense meant to any TGS posters, like Kit, who still want Oz and Willow back together (while I feel strongly about it, I am still new here and do NOT want to start a flame war with people who have been here much longer *apologizes*).

Sincerely, Allaine
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Friday, April 20, 2001 07:03:04 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

*Warpmind enters, mildly distressed over unknown things.*
Howdy, gang. Sorry I've been out of the CR all week. I'll get better, I swear. I don't want to end up like Wilek. ;) (Just kidding, Wilek.)

Kyryn: Yeah, Clickomania is a nightmare to one's sanity... glad I've already disposed of mine before I even saw it... ;)

Gside: The ion emitter is based on the same principles as the TIE fighters' propulsion system... and I frankly doubt they use squirtguns to travel through space. ;)

Josh: What I do for a living? Well... at the exact present, I'm between jobs... so, most of the time, I just breathe and live on social security money. It's not much, but it's ll I really need right now, financially-wise. (Still less than a regular paycheck, though...)

Christine: Yeah, hope I manage to finish it on time. *Looks at link* Survivor on Monster Isl... *Blink* There is something I REALLY REALLY want to say about that, but... *Cough* *Choke* I wonder who will be the next to make the connection... *Snicker*

Pistoff: That pic you suggest of Rockie and Ralphie... that wouldn't incidentally look similar to that nefarious Janet Jackson poster, would it? };) And I see what you mean - that calendar is one I DEFINITELY would buy, and be able to hang on a wall in a crowded room. };)

Aaron: Gotcha. However, there's one thing that MIGHT cause a severe impediment to the whole deal... I need to get a few things from ULC first - if I don't get the wedding certificate before I go, I'm afraid there are few things I really can do... (It's a beureaucratic thing, I'm afraid - even servants of God are powerless against it.) However, two months *should* be enough time. (I even promise to save up one of those cigars Mara requested, ya know...) :)

Lexy: I feel for you... *Ponders getting some outside contacts to "lean on" this villain...* If there was anything I could do, I would.

Ravyn: Woohoo! I hereby declare tht I will NOT be requesting a dance. ;) Two reasons: one, I'll probably be too occupied with Lynati, and two, I can't dance anyway... not without causing someone physical injuries. ;)

Daniel Johnson: *Mumbles a few words of peace over Sammi and Jim.*

Gside again: So, you don't think you'll ever be ready as a suitor? *Smug grin* Call me weird, but I think Aaron had a good point there...

Pistoff again: Hey, I don't think Kit called you a hypocrite... just made an observation. ;) (There is a difference between art containing nudity and pornography, after all... Isn't there? *Reaches for "Nude Art" deck of cards.*)

Lain: *Offers hug* Sure you're not a china doll... you're just a big plushie. };) But seriously, I hope you get that criminology education you want... I got this weird feeling you'd be an excellent profiler. :)

Well, that's it for now... Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, April 20, 2001 06:34:10 AM
IP: mp-217-206-17.daxnet.no

I think I have the energy to say one more thing.

Siofra: Welcome! Hope you like it here. <Industrial Design> Good major. My sister's current boyfriend at VA Tech shares it. :)
Doug
Friday, April 20, 2001 01:18:16 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.80.dlls.grid.net

SJ: It's Kit who's been talking to Pistoff, not me. Please don't mix us up again. And I'm a lot more worried about him causing trouble in here than Kit- he's the one who tends to take personally even the mildest sort of disagreement with his opinions or the pointing out of fallacies in them. You don't believe me, just check the archives of the room.

Daniel Johnson: Please tell your friend Sammi I share her grief and pain- I did not know James, but you did, and what kind of friend am I if can not mourn the death of a friend of a friend? <sighs>

Lain: You want a degree in CJ, I say go for it. I agree with SJ, you'd be great in victim services or something like that. Maybe not as a Mountie, but there are other uses for a CJ degree besides being a cop. If your father doesn't want to let you pursue your dreams, I say you forget him. You're old enough to make your own decisions about your life and act on them, you may need to make your father realize this. If I were you, I'd finish getting the degree you're working on now to make him happy (and also, who knows, maybe it could teach you some valuable skills you could use later in life- I know people with art degrees who aren't artists, who have used those degrees as ways of getting used to college and then precursors to getting the degree they really want, and yet still learned valuable lessons from the art courses they took at first) and then go for the CJ one you want at perhaps that college in the States Val's mom wants you to attend. That's what I'd do. Of course, I don't know if that's possible for you. Whatever happens, best of luck.

I'm too tired to say any more tonight. :(
Doug
Friday, April 20, 2001 01:16:12 AM
IP: pool-63.52.170.80.dlls.grid.net

Hi everyone!
I'm new to the comment room, although I've been kind of keeping up with TGS for a little while now. You all seemed like a nice enough group of people, and now I don't have to feel like a dork for harboring a lingering obsession over a cartoon that was cancelled years ago :P

Ravyn:<<<<engineers taking over the CR>>Now all we need is a ChemEng to round it out.>>
How about an Industrial Design major to throw into the mix! I was going to double with ME, but decided that the University of Michigan's Engineering school was evil...hee hee. I think its kind of funny that there are so many technical minds here...and a lot of college-age students, so it seems.

Lain: Even though you don't know me, I would love to try and give you some advice about what you are going through right now...my dad is kind of the same way, so I know where you are coming from. If you want to, you can e-mail me and we can talk.

Anyway, not sure what all to say! You probably gathered that I'm an ID major at U of M, Ann Arbor (go freshmen!), and if anyone is wondering about the name Siofra (SHEE-fra), its a Gaelic name and means "little elf". If you knew me, you would know how fitting it is :)

Catch you all later!

Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Friday, April 20, 2001 12:48:11 AM
IP: bursley-219-53.reshall.umich.edu

Lain: You know, the more you talk about your father, the more I realize that he's disturbingly similar to my own father. I can sympathize, especially about the schooling thing. I can't even begin to tell you the all-out wars I've had with him over my degree....it's in Administration of Justice (aka Criminal Justice. ADJ is the same thing, it's just semantics), and of course, he would have rather I taken Accounting. Never mind the fact that I'm horrible at math. Why did he want me to get a degree in that? Yes, you've guessed it--HE has a degree in accounting. He worked as an auditor for a time. Of course, I won--I'm getting the degree that I wanted instead of the one he wanted me to get. I must admitt, though, my bargaining chip was particularly sinister: I'm the only one of 3 children who has ever went to college (and actually suffered through the whole thing). I made him an ultimatem--either I get my degree, or I get no degree at all. When faced with the prospect of no children obtaining a higher education, he caved. Ever since I've expressed interest in law school, he's also slacked up on the "your degree is worthless" bullsh!t. I say slacked up, not stopped. Because he wouldn't be my father if he still didn't ride my ass and belittle me about something.
But I can sympathize with you. My father plays a lot of the same type of mind games. The difference that probably exists between the two of us is that you ultimately probably love and even may respect your father. Heh heh, I have no such weaknesses.

Personally though, as someone who is in the ADJ program, I would love to have someone like you in it as well. I can't quite picture you as, say, a Mountie ;), but you seem very bright and certainly inquisitive. Criminology would be great for you, and perhaps some investigative work as well. I can see you working with victims as well, perhaps not as a victimologist but in victim services (if there exists such a thing in Canada, and I'm sure it does); you do seem to have a genuine compassion for others. If this is really what you want to do (ADJ work), than you should go for it. There are many good programs in the USA....can't say if there are any in Canada, because I'm not as well informed.
Personally, I find the thought of you, silly little lain, Grand Supreme Jerk of the Great White North, in a police uniform running down a perp and taking him down Dirty Harry style to be just too damn funny. And cute. ;)

Oh, and hey, selling your soul to George Dubya Bush isn't so bad. It's fun really. You'll start to talk with a Texas accent (remember the Alamo!). Remember: it's not selling out, it's buying in. **spooky music plays, and SJ wiggles his fingers at lain** Join us, young one......join our army of darkness.....join the evil that is the Republican party....you cannot resist....feel your free will begin to leave you.....you want to join us.....you need to join us.......
You would make a good little conservative. The initiation is a little tough, though--we'll have to bury you in a grave 6 feet under, and you'll have to claw your way out again.

You probably don't get that, but someone out there who is a White Wolf fan probably has a grin on their face.

Doug: Hey, not to point fingers or cast dispersions, but when dealing with Pistoff, it's probably wise not to pull the tiger by his tail. We're all trying to move forward, so let's let cooler heads prevail.

Fred is being very civil, and I appreciate that. I'm sure some of you probably don't want him in here at all, but hey, I think that we could all agree that civility is a lot better than just screaming at each other all over again, right? Let's keep moving forward, everyone.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:41:48 PM
IP: 66-44-66-220.s220.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

lain> <<my family is DEAD.>> yeah. Yeah, I know exactly how you feel...I'm having the same feelings right now, although not for the same reasons. I really have no good advice for you right now...I'm sorry...but at least I can say that I know exactly how that feels. And it sucks, don't it? Oh, well....just make sure that you do what makes *you* happy, and you surround yerself with as much good as you can...the only way I'm keeping myself going is by keeping myself so busy that I forget about my life, and by pretending everything is fine whenever people ask. It's probably not a very good way to live...hell, it probably ain't healthy, either...but at least it's kept me functional the last few days. **shrugs** Just hang in there, lain, and if you need to talk, I don't know how helpful I can be, but I'll be here. **hugs**

Imzy> **laughs** Someone didn't get their cootie shot...j/k ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:34:01 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Daniel & Lexy> My prayers are with you.
SOROW
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:26:25 PM
IP: a010-0598.dll2.splitrock.net

okay.. here is my problem..

im here stuck at this school which everyone knows i hate more that anything in the universe..

i was just talking to vals mother (who loves me soooo much it makes me have a breakdown every time i talk to her cos i miss MY mum so much..) and she was telling me that she thinks i should go to another school in the states where i could take ACTUAL courses that i wanted to take..

my father says i have to get a degree.. and he claims to not care what it is in.. which is fine..
i hated music and wanted to do criminology and he wouldnt let me.. or rather said he wouldnt support me when he knew very well i have no job (due to him aswell) and no funding of my own. he wants me to get an art degree so that i can be a .. a.. a what?? (arent parents supposed to tell you to go into law or medicine and you are supposed to rebel and go into art cos its your passion???)
art isnt my passion
I SUCK AT ART!! I DONT WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT!!
i was sooooooo embarrassed about joning TGS you have nooooo idea.. because i am paranoid about public displaying of my stuff... and he hated the idea of me having art on the net (maybe cos i wanted to do it?) hence why i dont have a scanner even though we own one in a box at home that he doesnt use and wont ever use that works just fine.
grrrr...

so i cant go into criminal justice cos.. well that would involve scary thing like dealing (gasp) criminals.. and couldnt have his little flower doing that, could he? he doesnt think i have the mental stamina for it. heh.. i look at people and know how they work in five minutes flat.. i have instinct.. and high levels of observation skills. same reason he didnt want me in the army.. i dont have the mental stamina. little china doll that i am.

I AM NOT A CHINA DOLL!! but i AM petrified of HIM.. he has made DAMN SURE that i am. crafty devil. the only way to survive an argument with him is to agree with everything he says.. and then he gets mad cos i wont fight and he wants me to. he is the only person in the world who can break me. he shouts and humiliates me on a regular basis and then denies me physical contact until i practically come back on my knees begging forgiveness. and i do. pride? no.. i have none of that..
but every time he does i come back on fire. i hate talking to him at all cos five minutes in hes already shouting about how im such a let-down of a daughter. heh.. *has the sudden thought that boot camp will be a cinch* hes made a tough little b!tch of a daughter allright..
(okay.. im having trouble here cos i cant really see the screen at the moment.. my eyes are leaking cos im so angry)

my family is DEAD.

im so fixated on making him happy that its killing me. i had a SEVERE eating disorder for almost THREE YEARS and it STILL HAUNTS ME and why?? have i ever read "girl magazines"?? or been "heavily influenced by the media"?? nope. not me. but when my parents get upset with me?? i dont attack them, i attack ME. and the stupidest part was when my mum was sick and it seemed for all the world that the worse i treated myself, the better she got..
dad guilt tripped me one horrible day and told me that i was sick because i was jealous that mum was sick and jealous of the attention she was getting.
and i STILL feel bad cos I GOT BETTER and she died. and i feel unspeakably guilty even though my logic-brain says that they had nothing to do with each other.

so along comes vals mum, with her love and support..
and she wants to get me to go to this great place and it sounds wonderful.. and coincidence?? they have criminology.. lovely. cept its a "christian college" and my dad HATES religion with a DEEP embittered passion and the college is in the U.S. of A (which is a den of evil people who elect stupid right-wing overly-religious leaders) and.. while i am VERY proud to be a canadian cos i love this country with all my heart and dopey jean cretien and rick mercer (who is as an incarnation of GOD BTW), and i too think gw bush is an .... erm... idiot, i dont think thats a very good reason to not go to school there.. its not like id be selling my soul to gw bush.. (to quote SJ: "jesus fu**ing christ on a pogo sitck..")

and vals mum is soooooo kind.. she says i should go to that school so i would be "close to home" (by this she means close to her and her family) and then i cry more cos i want a family soooo badly you have no idea..
and i think to myself: "i havent signed my housing contract for next year yet.. i havent paid any money.. i can still get away.. i could actually DO it.. i could run.. she told me they have programs for students with "extenuating circumstances" or something..

and the one half of my brain is saying "gogogogogo this is what youve been waiting for, throw yourself at it with wild abandon and have 'faith' go gogogogogogogogogo"
and the other half is being a chickensh!t and says i dont want to get disowned by my father and if you have faith youll only get let down in the end.. and besides that id have to get it all sorted out by this saturday cos thats when im movin out and have to sign that contract and all so theres no way just forget it and suffer through the degree.

so im asking for advice.. preferably SENSIBLE advice? not the "screw your dad and run away" kind of advice cos thats not helpful or practical at all..

i just dont know what to do. i am very lost and confused and pacing back and forth in the back of my brain..

love and thanks for listening,
lain "shrapnel wearing angel under cover" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:06:07 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Daniel Johnson: Don't worry, I was only distressed for a while. I'm way over it now. <reads bad news and sighs> Or maybe I'm not. A moment of silence for James, and my condolences to his friends and family, Sammi especially, who the family needs to understand better and sympathize more with IMO. :( <sniffs, chokes back her tears as she moves on to other replies>

DPH: Hope you don't have a sinus infection, those things can be more than bothersome. Good luck to you and your friend in the hospital also. I'll be praying she gets out soon.

Calliope: Very good point about hourglass figures, I agree 100%. Congrats on having a little fun during your spring break- sorry you were sick for a while though. Have a happy birthday when it comes up.

Christine: Good luck with the books!

Revel: Great Han&Leia line. I prefer "You scruffy-looking nerfherder," though- it's funnier. Have fun with your friend from France, and don't worry about driving so far- good things are worth hardships. :) Doug and I will be driving a long way ourselves in a couple weeks btw- Austin to Nashville so we can pick his sister up from college and bring her home. Should be a great trip. :)

Imzadi: <That explains SO much> Ha ha. :) I agree with you on ESB and Oz.

Lexy: We're always here for you, no matter what. Never forget that. <returns hugs>

Later!
Kit
Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:53:02 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.107.dlls.grid.net

Thanks to all who read my post. It's always nice to have the fandom to come back to *sighs* I can't talk about this to most people, especially because I live in such a small area. Just talking the way I have about the school has gotten me some "traitor" looks. *hugs all who replied*

Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:44:45 PM
IP: ac9e0f02.ipt.aol.com

::Rayvn touches Josh's arm::

NOOOOOOOOO! NOW I HAVE COOTIES!! ::frantically runs to the CR washroom and scrubs arm with industrial strength chemicals and steel wool::

Okay so tonight I think I'll rewrite my philosophy essay, which my TA thought sucked nearly as much as I thought it sucked. Probably because it sucked. After that, maybe I'll work on my next programming project...or maybe I'll just start working on my fic again. I haven't written more than a couple pages in the last few weeks, and I can almost hear it calling. The problem isn't helped by the fact that everything on my desktop has a gargoyles icon and every piece of machinery I have is named after a character on the show.

Allaine: <<bring back Oz>>: Whatever, I know that turning Willow into a lesbian offended a massive section of the male audience (no, I was not in that group, I don't think Hannigan's that cute). I liked Oz as a character, and I think he was a lot more interesting than Tara. Every show needs a bit of sarcasm, and Xander just isn't cutting it.

Lain: <<dont have a CAR>>: Hmmm...I'd be staying at my cousins. A lack of car would make visiting you extremely difficult...nuts.

Anyone who cares/has advice: How would YOUR parents feel if you wanted to jump on a plane and visit a friend you made over the internet? Especially if that friend was in another country?

Kit: <<we didn't amuse the CR>>: I was amused. And of course, mine is the only opinion that counts (any wonder I'm single?) 8-) <>: That explains SO much...

Kyryn: You LIVE in Denton? Like, its a real place? Does it have billboards in the cemetaries?

Rayvn: <>: Ditto. Should be fun, no?

Daniel: <<passed away>>: I am so sorry. I can't even begin to imagine what you or the family are going through, because I'm lucky enough to have never lost anyone close to me. ::knocks on desk::

DPH: <<How about at the beginning>>: If you can find a way to start at the end, I know a Berkeley Physics Department that wants your mind, body, and soul, and will probably pay a pretty penny for it.

Caliope: <<look at how you've all grown!!! >>: I'm not touching THAT one with a 10-foot pole. <<the hair is just bad, but can easly be fixed with time>>: Yeah, right. Have YOU ever tried telling a girl to change any part of her physical appearance? Lets just say its more dangerous than riding shotgun in my car. <<that hour glass figure is so over-rated, and a pain to buy jeans if your "blessed" with it!>>: Yeah, but if you can draw clothes on, then there's no downside. <<rock climbing>>: I love rock climbing indoors! Its soooo much fun. My favorite place is this wall near Tahoe, which is about 50 ft high on some paths. Yeah, you're arms hurt, but spend enough time doing it and you'll be able to do more pull-ups than anyone in your weight class (trust me, its pretty cool to be able to brag about that).

Revel: <<ESB>>: Hands down the greatest SW movie ever made, I might add.

A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, April 19, 2001 09:02:45 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-154-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Uhmm ... Pistoff, what on God's green Earth in the HELL was that? Granted, it's pretty funny ... and I never thought I'd see such a creative use of pacemakers, Colin Mochrie and Harry Potter, but ... ye Gods, what language was that song in, Japanese or Swedish?!

Granted, I laughed my ass off ...

Question: what kind of drugs was whoever came up with that *on* when they programmed it? (next question: where can I get some? ;)j/k)
Coyote the Very Confused Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, April 19, 2001 08:22:22 PM
IP: 64.243.214.115

For something very strange, click my name. Cyborgs are among us. Sorta.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, April 19, 2001 06:09:01 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**Warning self promo**

Yeah, I finshed part one. If you're bored and looking for something to read check out the first ep of the Dragon Eye series that I managed to squeeze into my schedule of no time. The other parts will follow soon after, but I'd love to here responses.
**End**
In other not so important news I'm driving all the way to Houston tomorrow just to see and spend time with a girl from France who I have not seen in two years. Whoo hoo, squandering what little time I have to finish my project is fun!

Well guess I better get back to work.

"Ha, thought I was going to say good bye with giving you a good by kiss."
"I'd rather kiss a wookie."
"I can arrange that!"
-Han&Leia, ESB-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, April 19, 2001 05:57:35 PM
IP: ac847adf.ipt.aol.com

Lexy > I, too, am sorry to hear of the situation and wish there was something I could suggest, but nothing legal comes to mind :(

Weakest Link > I kinda liked it ... at least they don't coddle and nudge people along the way Regis does. No instances like the one in which some clown took 40 minutes to come up with his Final Answer while the crowd sat there yawning. Though I agree, that catch phrase became annoying far faster than anything else in recent memory (except perhaps the Dogs Out one ...)

Book News > having reviewed the rough draft of the contract, I am now waiting for the real thing to come in the mail so I can sign it and get this process in motion. I should be listed on the publisher's site soon and will let all the world know ; ) In the meanwhile, I have been busting pages on the 2nd ElfLore book and am now almost 1/2 way through. Off to Kennewick again this weekend to record more Black Roses, too! Wish me luck that it continues to go well!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 04:20:32 PM
IP: 01-028.075.popsite.net

Hi!!!

I've been away for so long! And look at how you've all grown!!! :P

So, my spring brake was quite uneventfull, just one day of holly jolly fun, where I went to an art museum, then went indoor rock climbing (yey!!! *grinz*) then went to a movie ("josie and the pussy cats"...alarmingly not as bad as I thought it would be...neet sound track too...HEY! If you want to see Seth Green in a disfunctional boy band, SEE THIS MOVIE!!! LOL Oz, of all ppl! anyways...) then we had dinner at Chilies (mmmm, strawberry margaritas :P) then we went home, tired, pooped and our arms about to fall out of their sockets (rock climbing'll do that to ya, but its just so fun! :P). Besides that, I dutifully got sick, evil virus, had me feverish and halucinating for one eaving and feeling crapy for 2 days! ....thats about it!
Now, as for THIS weekend and the next (which, by the way, is my B-Day ;) ) I'm going to spend the weekend at the beach! This weekend with my godmother and brother, the next with my parents! So I'm set to make up for the bordome and psycoldelic dreams suffered! :P

Now, let me stop babbling and post, shall I? I'll start replying and see how far I get!

Gside><<Talk to Douglas Adams. He's got five.>> five trilogies with 4 books or a trilogy with 5 books? In any case, it cant be called a trilogy, it kindda spoiles the "tri" part if its more than 3 :P But I can still hope, maybe a new trilogy based on the first one? *shrugs* <<Break it up into tiny pieces.>> O.O...do the pigions explode?!...<<All over the place. Most oceans.>> *slaps her forhead* I ment here in the CR!!!

Josh><<But Max has that damn haircut...I'm sorry if I were terry I'd never be able to get over that, especially when Dana has that whole hourglass figure thing goin' on.>> True, the hair is just bad, but can easly be fixed with time, true ditzyness is uncurable :P Besides, that hour glass figure is so over-rated, and a pain to buy jeans if your "blessed" with it!:P

Allaine><<Piers Anthony, I believe, originally intended his Xanth novels to be a trilogy. Of course, he's written about twenty>> lol then ther IS hope! :D

Winterwolf> Hi! *HUGZ* <<Are you trilingual yet?>> lol Sukoshi! ;) Hey Did ya see Roswell?! What the heck, huh?! Everything is slowly comming to an invetitably disasterous end, thats my prediction for the moment :P

....And thats as far as I can go today! I'll see if I can finish tomorow, but for now, I'm late for my history class (yey! <---the sarcastic type mind you ;P) Bye guys!!! *HUGZ all and runs off*
Caliope
Thursday, April 19, 2001 02:37:46 PM
IP: 136.145.83.178

Where do I start? How about at the beginning.

Sunday- I bought anti-histimines. I had trouble getting to sleep due to sinus problems.

Monday, before I left to go to work, my tame cat population tripled after 4 new kittens were born.

Tuesday, after I left to go to work, a friend of mine went to the hospital.

Wednesday, sinus problems still perist. I talked to the friend of mine, Kathy, on the phone and asked how she was doing. Not good.

Thursday, wait a minute: that's today, Sinus problems still perist. Kathy does not know when she will be leaving the hospital. I have to see my own doctor because I suspect I have a sinus infection. I am nearly out of anti-histimines.
100,000 things to do in so little time. Gotta go.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, April 19, 2001 02:16:12 PM
IP: max1-68.cwy.cei.net

Thanks for all of your comments. And I'm so sorry for distressing Kit. :(

It is with great sadness that I report that early this morning James Ballerino passed away. I just got back from visiting Sammi. It seems that Jim's sisters, who have had little contact with him for years, have taken over all of the arrangements. And since Sammi is "only" his fiance and has "only" been with him for around ten years, she has no say in the matter. Grrr. Well, I need some food; I'll be back later.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Thursday, April 19, 2001 01:03:51 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**Ravyn comes in, whistling happily and grinning** Boy, am I in a good mood...have no idea why, though. ;) Maybe it's that freaky link from Pistoff that I just laughed terribly hard at, or the fact that I will soon be meeting Coyote (and the rest o' y'all who are going to the Gathering), or that I watched "Office Space" last night and then had English class canceled this morning...:)

Pistoff> Oh my freakin' goodness. What in the world did I just watch? ;) I'll tell you what, though, that link was soooo hilarious...I couldn't stop laughing at the stupid thing. :) And yes, I think I need to be finding me some of whatever that person's on...;)

LM> Heyas! :) I like seeing your posts around here also.

Coyote> **grins** You're a masochist...? Hoo boy...well, uhh...let me know if you're gonna get on the show. ;) Next thing I know you'll be signed up for Survivor 3...oh, wait, didn't you sign up for that already? ;) Hey, wait a minute....maybe we can *both* get on the show...hee hee....:)

Josh> **runs up and touches his arm** Ha! Touched you! ;) Just kidding. ;) I'll see you in L.A. at the Gathering too. :) And yes, I totally intend to make an ass of myself at the Gathering...I have a habit of doing that at social events (especially where there's the possibility of dancing involved). :)

Lexy> I'm so sorry about your family problems. I know the feeling, and I wish you the best. **hugs**

Well, I'd better actually do some homework...see y'all around, and take care! :)
Ravyn
Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:11:17 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

****Kyryn steps back in.****

Josh><<There are Rocky showings in TEXAS!? That was the last place I expected to see them.>> *lol* I live in Denton, "The Home of Happiness." They usually have a Rocky showing at least once a year at the University of North Texas here in town. The Aggies also have a Rocky showing at Texas A&M. (Of course, these are also the folks whose science fiction club is named Cepheid Variable. They also run Aggiecon every year.)

Later!

****Kyryn disappears.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:08:06 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

****Kyryn steps into the room.****

LM><Coding>The main problem was caused by using Word 2000 to HTML one or two of the stories. I simply went back to using an older version of Word and then went in and manually cleaned up any extraneous code from the html doc before I posted it. I believe that current staff members/editors have a couple of methods to deal with this in the future.

Lexy> ((((HUGS!)))) I don't have much advice to offer, but be make sure that any lawyer that you do manage to get takes into account the child support laws in Texas, since your dad and your brother are now living there.

Daniel Johnson> My thoughts and prayers go out to your friend and her fiance.

Later, All.

****Kyryn slips quietly out of the room.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:50:20 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Lexy>Boy does this sound familiar. My condolences about the whole situation and I hope your family gets through this alright. My family went through and is still going through a similar situation with my dad as well, involving fraud, the Alberta Treasury Branch (a bank), and members of the government. Needless to say I understand how messy these things can get.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:39:21 AM
IP: dial-10.ocis.net

Two other quick things.

Allaine: To each their own opinion. Though I am curious as to why you like Tara more than Oz. His personality was sketched out more and he was more endearing IMO. Fit better into the Buffyverse too- he was a main character werewolf, Tara's just another main character witch. Also with him and Riley gone, Xander's the only male in his age group on the show regularly- he must be awful lonely for guy friends. :)

Crushes: Good point, LM, about them not being meaningless. I meant the term in the second meaning you mentioned of course, guess I should have said harmless instead. <shrugs>

Later.
Kit
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:10:51 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.19.dlls.grid.net

Lady Mystic: Good point on Cosmo. You can email us that comment/question if you like. If it's about the Josie and the Pussycats posts, well, please remember the main purpose of those was to amuse the CR while reviewing a great movie. If we didn't amuse the CR, well, we're sorry. <manufactured homes> Yeah, our home is pretty much like that, only we're having to wait longer on getting everything installed. The only thing left now is the skirting, and landscaping the yard, which Doug's uncle will do for us at no cost. :) All the stuff you mentioned as being inside the home was already there when it got set up- we just had to wait on the water, electricity, AC, and septic systems being installed on the property outside. Thanks for explaining your curiosity. <identity mix-ups> Doug and I get those now and then, more often online than IRL. Some people think just because we have the same IP a lot of the time we must be the same person. <shakes head> In RL, Doug has at times been teased mercilessly about me for much the same reasons Firestorm has about you- certain people in his life never met me, I wasn't yet sure I wanted to meet them, Doug talked about me but they had little or no evidence I existed (pictures can be anyone)- I must be imaginary. No other assumption has ever been so amusing and yet so frustrating to me at the same time.

Pistoff: I was not calling you a hypocrite. I was just pointing out that it was interesting that you were saying you didn't want porn and then saying it was ok for people to send in pictures of characters touching each other in a sexual way (Delilah grabbing Taura's breasts, Ralphie grabbing Rocky's) for purposes of amusement. Some people might call that porn and see it as such whether or not it really was meant to be porn in the first place- you know how people are. I really did not intend to imply any insult by it, I was just pointing out that it's interesting you were seeming to endorse it. Any negative implications to the post you saw you attached yourself. <SJ's point about identities> I agree with that too. And if you're implying that Doug and I have the same personality, we don't. We have many characteristics in common, but our personalities are not the same. And I only posted as Sideshow Bob for a joke.

SOROW: Good luck with that headache, take some aspirin if you need to.

I have to get to class now. <jets out>
Kit - [frostfire@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:07:51 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.19.dlls.grid.net

josh>> of COURSE you are welcome to stay here : D
uh.. i dont have a CAR to get places but.. other than that, my abode is your abode!

: )
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:32:42 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Imzadi and Kitaina: <celebrities> I once met David Faustino from Married With Children on a Disney game show when I was a kid. <Bring back Oz> Ohh, do _not_ even go there. Did I like Oz? Yes (my mother and I think Seth is a great actor). Did I like Willow and Oz? Yes. Does it even come close to Willow and Tara? No (and at this point in my series of Buffy fanfic, the two girls are married, so my bias is pretty solid).

Sevarius Jr.: <Weakest Link> I found it mildly amusing. She reminds me of a couple college professors I had who could be harsh with their criticisms, and were upfront about it too. Frankly I always found it entertaining and let it roll of my back when it came my way. So when they talk about how humiliating it must be for these people, my reaction is, "Is their self-esteem that poor?" Btw, they've announced plans to have the original Survivor contestants (Rich, Sue, etc) on WL in May. Now that I'll watch.

Lexy: To you and everyone else out there who are having serious trouble, I offer my sympathy. I graduated from law school in December, and while I don't take the bar exam until July, when I get a chance I'll bring up my Family Law books and see if I can find anything helpful. Take care of yourself.

Sincerely, Allaine (who finds Willow and Tara incredibly romantic)

Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Thursday, April 19, 2001 09:25:08 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

A good day all in all. Skipped my first class, went to class from 12-3. Got some homework done, even started thinking about my next programming project, an exhaustive analysis of various data sorting methods.

Lexy: I dunno what to say, except that I'm sorry that your dad has to be such a bastard. I hope everything works out for you and your mom.

Daniel: My heart goes out to your friends.

Lain: You wouldn't happen to be able to entertain an American in Canada, would you? Cuz guess where I'm gonna be at the end of May...

SJ: <<Keanu Reeves looks upon Freddie Prinze Jr. and laughs>>: LOL!

Gside: <<biology majors have something against frogs>>: So true. I disected 5 frogs in my grade school career. <>: Ditto!

Knowing celebrities: Yes, I actually lived 5 blocks from SMG. She drives (or drove) an ugly-ass red land rover discovery. One of the perks of growing up in LA is that celebrities are an everyday occurrence. On top of that, I went to an exclusive private school, so I met even more celebrities that way. Most of them are pretty normal. And yes, I have met Jonathan Frakes (and shook his hand). Who wants to touch me? Okay, don't all jump up at once...

Pistoff: << Only if I spill coffee on it>>: Only a problem if you have a laptop.

Hey, can we have an admin step in again and keep the song lyrics out!? Oh...sh!t...nevermind... ::smiles sheepishly and waves at Lain::

Lady Mystic: <<Thanks for your words>>: There's more where that came from, I guess...hehe. <<I'd skip posting all together>>: An interesting idea, but there are plenty of people who don't get involved in major conversations, i.e. lurkers, etc. But the fact that every once in a while you post a response to someone is nice. No Lady Mystic would mean one less intelligent, collected opinion. <<that's not... for me anyway>>: How little you know. <<We even frequently discuss the articles>>: One of the top activities at camp was for a group of kids (guys and girls) to go through seventeen or cosmo and laugh at how rediculous the sex tips were. <<Care to make any for other genres>>: Absolutely not! This is a privately commissioned project! <<what other CR info pages do YOU use>>: I've used all of them at one point or another.

FS: <<Target practice and accuracy were never important to either teams>>: That's a general rule for troops. <<Silence and not moving sucks alot>>: Sucks, huh? There's another feature...<<so, she can't say "Can he join us?">>: No, she cannot. <<gargoyle vs. human>> I can compare the gargoyle to the cartoons, and cartoons are far more flawless than RL. Doubly true for humans. <<status of Artificially Intelligent beings>>: Depends on the level of AI. I'd prefer not to have any more intelligent than a CLD, because I know that one way or another they'll try to overthrow me/do something that pisses me off. <<Never met the quiet one>>: Who the hell do you think hangs out in here? <>: Too late, cat's outta the bag. <<These are just the prototypes!>>: I don't pay for Betas (except for the OS X beta, but that's another story).

Don't quote Dickens in MY apartment!
-Trey Parker, Orgazmo

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, April 19, 2001 04:12:51 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-16.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Pistoff: Allow me to be the first to say...
WTGDMF was that?
Fire Storm
Thursday, April 19, 2001 03:38:40 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Okay, I have to share this. I just have to. Click my name to see...well, I dunno what the hell it is, but I like it. Whoever made that thing...whatever they were on, damn it, I need some!
Pistoff
Thursday, April 19, 2001 03:29:11 AM
IP: ppp131-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Aaron//Robby: Never mind. :)
Fire Storm
Thursday, April 19, 2001 03:28:02 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Yooper: <I'm a student at Michigan Tech>
Figured as much.

sw33t.

Sorry. Cybernetics arn't ready yet.

Revel: <never in my life have I ever seen to opposing forces fire off more rounds and hit absolutely nothing>
Target practice and accuracy were never important to either teams.

Aaron//Robby: <Sigh. No. We are separate people, both of whom post here.>
Ok, ok...
So, where did the last name Wheeler come from?

Coyote: <YOU'RE A MASOCHIST!!>
I knew you were BAD, but not phycotically masochistic! ;)

Daniel Johnson: SO sorry to hear about your friend. :(
I remember what LM told me about her mother dealing with that. I am sorry.

Imzadi: <I'll take your word on it.>
Not willing to try it, eh?
<Yes, I agree that would be nice>
Silence and not moving sucks alot.
<ESPECIALLY the roommate one. Three girls have left me to go after him.>
Hmm... so, she can't say "Can he join us?"
<Yes, the human. Drool>
It is easier to make a realistic gargoyle than it is a realistic human. You would be comparing the human to whoever you see. The gargoyle... who are you going to compare it to?
<What else would you use a palm pilot for?>
SOME people think it should be used to organize your life! Wierd, eh?
ALTHOUGH, I have seen some people control small wheeled robots with one before.
Ok... again, aside from CLD's (Cybernetic Love Dolls), what would the status of Artificially Intelligent beings be in your society once you rule the world?

Gside: 
No... if you do that, he looks like a the hampster from hampster dance... provided you have a blood/alcohol level of .1 or higher at the time.
<Meth for Dummies?>
Great way to get out of that lease!
<For effect?>
For it to be more believeable to the non-engineers in the room.
<Apparently biology majors have something against frogs. Maybe they were flies in a previous life>
Hmm... have you seen it repeated?
I am suddenly reminded of "Hanibal"

DEFINATELY!
What do you think of "New Age" groups like Enigma, Enya, Lorenna McKennitt, and Pure Moods CD's?

Knowing Celebrities: Well... Hmm... I knew someone who I was told was in Hustler. Does that count?
OH! And a friend I was in class with in electronics married someone who ended up being an international serial killer!
Hmm... Robert Kennedy told me any a group of people I was with to "Buzz off" when we were at Arlington Cemetary.
I have met the radio personalities from the station I listen to...
I have met the Mayor...
BUt I have never met anyone (to my knoweldge) that was later described as "The quiet one. Always kept to himself..."

**ANGEL SPOILERS!***

I LOVED the part where Harmony was talking to Angel about the joys of drinking blood!

***END SPOILERS!***

Lady Mystic: Wo Ai Ni
<No, not when the 2-liter is stored on a shelf in the fridge instead of in the door. And the 2-liter sitting outside the fridge goes flat only when it is left uncapped and gets moved around a lot.>
Movement bad. Drinking good. ;)
<We aren't even of the same ethnicity, aside from being Caucasian!>
SHUSH! I don't want everyone to know I am human!
<Please remember NEXT time to clearly state that you are joking>
Hmm... remember that picture of my co-worker? Made him look TOO good as a woman!
<Like I told you IRL, just take the time to save up and buy totally new parts to replace ALL suspected malfunctioning ones.>
Unfortunately, that's what I may end up doing. I mean, I want the Live! 5.1 and the Raedon love...
<I'll stop while I'm ahead>
Please! Don't make me test the ignition coil with my tongue!
<Care to make any for other genres (not for sex/slave purposes)? Pets, babies, etc?>
Oh yes! These are just the prototypes! I have MANY plans for these!

Say... there wouldn't happen to be any doctors, or better yet, neurologists in this CR, would there?

Lexy: That is DEFINATELY the case that Fieger would grab. He would make your father seem like the devil himself in the media.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, April 19, 2001 03:25:21 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Spike: < I'm hoping to it an overhaul, re-organize the gallery, add a portfolio section, and fix up all those broken links.>>
Thanks for the link. Please tell me when you finish all those changes. I can't wait to see them. :)

Hcatty: <<Hi Lady Mystic! Nice to meetcha. um, didn't know FireStorm had a lady... *quickly erases last post* *grin*>>
*L* Yep, and for nearly 5 years... Well, it's not like people travel the 'net with labels attached to their names stating certain info about their selves. So it's understandable that you didn't know. At least you didn't continue *AFTER* finding out, or *BECAUSE* of finding out. That'd be a whole other (and not very pretty) story. ;)

Kitainia: <<house>>
Thanks for answering my questions. My father's girlfriend's daughter lives in a manufactured home community, which explains my curiosity. They bought their home and land as a package. Everything was completely installed and hooked up by the time they purchase it. The interior of their home was fully decorated, including: wallpaper, painted walls, carpeting, cabinets, built-in light fixtures, window blinds, entertainment center (minus electronics, but with fully functioning speakers), washer and dryer, sink, fridge, stove, dishwasher, etc. Did you home consist of these things as well?

<<BTW, don't question the meaningfulness of your posts. To me they are very meaningful. :)>>
Thank you for the compliment. :) I'm pretty sure you know your posts are quite meaningful to many dwellers here. But it's always nice to hear confirmation once in a while. *HUGS*

Imzadi: <<You held a calm, collected discussion with me about my thoughts on dating and stuff. No one I've ever met in RL has been able to do that.>>
I'm flattered. Thanks for your words. :)

<>
I guess I should say, just so anyone who reads this knows for sure, that my comment wasn't a result of me considering leaving. I often feel insignificant here due to how little I contribute in major discussions and other continuing discussions and how, quite often in the past, I got little to no feedback on my comments. I always understood the various reasons for that happening, but it didn't change the affect it had on me. So rather than feel like I'm talking to myself (If I wanted to do that I'd stick to a journal or talk to myself while doing chores.) I'd skip posting all together. For the past couple years I have tended to read comments and discussions and refrain from adding to them mostly due to: someone else had already voiced my opinion, I couldn't think of anything to say, or had no reaction to post. I used to have the time to sit down and read EVERYTHING in the room, and post on nearly everything too. But that was mostly when I actually had time to spare. I stopped myself from contributing so much when I noticed it was getting in the way of other duties/responsibilities. All in all, I know some part of me will still believe that my comments may not make that much of a difference here. But I often feel that way, from time to time, concerning most things. (I know it's natural and quite common among many individuals.)

<< <>: Its a dangerous world we live in, Lady Mystic.>>
The world may be dangerous, but that's not... for me anyway. *G*

<<Cosmopolitan: Since you're a women with a significant other (I'd ask my mom, but she doesn't read it) do the horribly suggestive tricks n' tips advertised on the cover actually WORK!?>>
This is probably more than you wanted to know, but I'll say it anyway... Well, most of those topics in the magazine deal with 'How to please your man' and tend to focus very little on tips for the guy on pleasing his girl or tips for both individuals in a relationship (aside from their version of Kama Sutra). (The magazine's reader base may be mostly female, but there are sections that focus on male readers too.) They also repeat sex themes a LOT by disguising them under different headings and choice of words. Some of the advice works, some doesn't. It depends on the individuals involved. The sex articles are pretty informative and/or entertaining for new readers, mostly as a means of new ideas or as a written confirmation that others like/dislike similar sexual activities. But once you become more familiar with their cycles, you tend to skip those sections or browse them with mild interest/amusement. The magazine doesn't consist entirely of sex tips/tricks and fashion/beauty advice, so often times those bold headlines are just meant to grab your attention and get you to buy on impulse and the articles may actually be just a couple sentences to two pages long. There's actually something in there for FS, my sister and me and we all take turns looking at the magazine. Sometimes two of the three of us or us all even look at it together. We even frequently discuss the articles.

To think, FS and I bought our first Cosmo magazine on impulse because of one of those sex headlines. (To look at together.) And got hooked because of the OTHER articles. As FS put it (We're discussing this as I write.): "They grab you with the glimmer and hold you with the substance."

<<Thank you for saving the CR and not losing last weeks comments...there's blackmail material in them thar backups!>>
You're welcome. I've often wondered if someone *has* blackmailed someone else due to material in those files.

Gside: <<Actually, it's my comments that don't matter.>>
Now, are you talking literally or is there a hidden meaning behind your comment? Either way, it's quite obvious that your comments matter. Many people here have had continuing discussions with you that have lasted WEEKS. And when you respond to my questions concerning CR stuff, I take them into serious account (as I do with everyone's responses), even when you aren't being serious (whether I know it or not).

Ravyn: <<So you see...it kinda fits in a way.>>
Yeah, I knew 'Corax' had a connection to 'Ravyn' but couldn't remember what? Thanks for responding.

Winterwolf: <<You posts are honest and how you feel yet still sweet and sensitive. I think you help balance out the room just being you more than you think.>>
That sounds like your posts! :) Thanks for answering my question, and for the *extremely* kind and heartfelt words. *HUGS*

Fire Storm: <<But have you ever noticed that a 2-liter goes flat faster in the fridge than sitting open on your table?>>
No, not when the 2-liter is stored on a shelf in the fridge instead of in the door. And the 2-liter sitting outside the fridge goes flat only when it is left uncapped and gets moved around a lot.
<<LM and I are <>*NOT*<> related!>>
I'm surprised that has gotten so many responses. Of course we are not related. We aren't even of the same ethnicity, aside from being Caucasian!
<< ...And I have the photos to prove it! ;)>>
Please remember NEXT time to clearly state that you are joking. I don't think people noticed or understood the wink. I'm sorry this topic caused so much trouble for so many people.
<< My motherboard just got fried.>>
Like I told you IRL, just take the time to save up and buy totally new parts to replace ALL suspected malfunctioning ones. I know we don't have the money right now so it will take even longer to save up. I know you need to get your computer running ASAP. But at the rate things are going, and with how long companies are taking to respond to your requests or replacing malfunctioning parts, it'd basically be the same amount of time, but with a lot less stress. The only problem is the money... *sigh*

<<natural voltage>>
You may not have officially tested your natural voltage but I know you have talked about doing it. Don't forget the times when you acted as a conductor for electricity and the times you've tested the voltage of a device with your own body parts and... I'll stop while I'm ahead.

<<ALD/DLD>>
Care to make any for other genres (not for sex/slave purposes)? Pets, babies, etc?

<<*Also reads Doug's message, then Kit's. Pauses for a moment* The less said, the better.>>
Umm... I have a comment/question I don't know if I should say here. So I'll leave it be for now.

Coyote: <<did you happen to notice anyone out on the roads squealing their tires without slamming on the gas?>>
No, but since we didn't need to go out that day we didn't. Surprisingly, we didn't notice squealing sounds on our street, which is quite common on bad weather days.

DPH: <<What? The CR timeline did NOT mention when the RPs started? Oh well.>>
Sorry I missed this before. I'm not sure whether or not I'd consider RP as CR info related. I always thought of them as bits of continuous stories, more like fic installments, similar to TGS stories. If I'm correct, there is more than one RP cycle in the room. I think I vaguely considered including the date when RP started in this room, but set it aside because I don't want people to get the idea that each new cycle and other topics (such a personal surveys) should be included in the timeline. I had a lot of material to go through and forgot to return to the matter (same with the rules). But to be fair, I'll try to find the VERY first RP and include that in the timeline. Before reading your comment I had already planned to include the date RP guidelines were first introduced to CR rules, since they were in fact included in a revision. Were you looking for something in particular in the archive or timeline?

EVERYONE: Speaking of the archive, I'm glad there are so many people making use of the CR Archive. Out of curiosity, what other CR info pages do YOU use? Any comments, critiques, or suggestions on any of the pages/sections of CR Information? (You know I had to ask this sooner or later.)

Daniel Johnson: <<Thank you! I'd be lost without those archives. There's also something a bit ironic about the situation. :)>>
You're welcome. What's ironic about the situation?
<<Jim and Sammi>>
I'm reminded of the time my mother was ill with cancer, of her death, and of the aftermath. I know what you and your friends are experiencing. My thoughts are with you and your friends.

Doug/Kit: <<Allegations concerning true identity/being one person>>
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Have you ever received similar allegations before or get them frequently, in RL or online? For that matter, has anyone here received similar allegations before or get them frequently? I'm curious.

FS and I haven't received these allegations online but surprisingly he has received them from former co-workers at more than one job. In our case it comes from a number of factors: first impressions, they rarely or never see me, or rumors.

Meaningless Crushes: How can a crush be meaningless if the nature of crushes in general reflect traits, characteristics, and ideas of value to the individual? Before someone corrects me: I know the term 'meaningless crush' refers to a crush that is harmless to those involved, but the wording of this term just brought up this question.

Yooper: Hi fellow Michigander/Michiganian (take your pick)!

Aaron/Robby: Not sure what to say... Good thing I held off on commenting on it and emailing Robby concerning the Admin page. (FYI, I just wasn't sure if the claims were true or not. And something in me suggested on waiting it out for a while.) I'm relieved that it was only an April Fool's joke. It was very convincing, even if a bit suspicious. *applauds* I still feel a bit confused, cautious and betrayed but I know it will pass.
<<...if you had indeed been just one person, at least you were bright enough to make sure your identities were actually separate and distinct. ~ SJ>>
Yeah I agree. So how/why do so many people confuse you for one person, as you claim?

Aaron: <<Robby and I both promise not to do it again, and, as Co-Admins, have given each other a stern warning.>>
I'm glad. What you did isn't really desired in any poster, especially co-admins. At least it's not as severe a feeling I got initially when I read the comment about an Admin giving himself another admin possition for the same board. I'm glad this fiasco is finished. (So I hope.)
<<Why do I have the feeling we're going to still be sorting through the fallout from this *next* April Fools?>>
Just another thing to add to the Gargoyles fandom historic journals. Now will your actions, and said fame, become something you two grow to regret or become proud of? Only time will tell.

Kyryn: <<the coding problems were solved a while ago and there are members on staff now who can take care of it.>>
Out of curiosity, how were the coding problems solved and through what means are they taken care of?

Lexy: I'm sorry for what you and your mother are going through. I wish I could help somehow, but don't know what else to say that hasn't already been said. I just hope you two make it through this with as little hardships and obstacles as possible. I also hope nothing worse spawns from this event in the future.

lain: Where exactly is the Great White North? It can't be ALL of Canada, can it? For some reason I just can't remember. :( What province and city are you from? And nice choice in the pic and text color combination. Very nice. :)

SJ: <<vampire pyramid scheme>>
How about Amway next? *G*

That's more than enough comments for this post. I'm as caught up as I can be concerning current events.
Lady Mystic - [<-- LAST WEEK'S CR !!!]
Dearborn, MI
Thursday, April 19, 2001 03:17:00 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

hold on..
hold on to yourself,
for this is gonna hurt like hell..
hold on, hold on to yourself,
you know that only time will tell.

what is it in me that refuses to believe this isnt easier than the real thing?
my love, you know that youre my best friend
you know id do anything for you..
my love,
let nothing come between us, my love for you is strong and true.

am i in heaven here or am i..
at the crossroads i am standing
so now youre sleeping peaceful, i lie awake and pray,
that youll be strong tomorrow and well see another day,
and we will PRAISE IT
and love the light that brings a smile across your face..

oh GOD if youre out there wont you hear me?
i know that weve never talked before..
oh GOD THE MAN I LOVE IS LEAVING!!
wont you take him when he comes to your door?

am i in heaven here or am i in hell??
at the crossroads i am standing
so now youre sleeping peaceful, i lie awake and pray
that youll be strong tomorrow and well see another day
and we will PRAISE IT
and love the light that brings a smile..
so now youre sleeping peaceful, i lie awake and pray
that youll be strong tomorrow and well see another day
and we will PRAISE IT
and love the light that brings a smile across your face

hold on
hold on to yourself
for this is gonna hurt like hell..

-sarah mclachlan. "hold on"
lain "only see what your eyes want to see" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Thursday, April 19, 2001 02:02:52 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Josh: Sticky keyboard? Only if I spill coffee on it.

Doug/Kit/Sideshow Bob/whatever: Ah hah. Calling me a hypocrite again? I see. Interesting. :) Okay, like so many other people, you completely missed the point of my comments on erotica. Or maybe you're just *choosing* not to understand what I meant. Whatever. I just want to clear this up, since you seem to be implying that I'm asking people for porn. That's NOT why I'm asking for these pictures. The project originally wasn't my idea, but I thought it'd be fun and I thought I'd see if any artists would like to give it a try--and it's NOT porn or erotica or whatever the hell you want to call it. I specifically stated, in fact, that I don't want anything pornographic. But if you or anybody else are unable or unwilling to figure that out, then there's no point in explaining it to you yet again. Farting into a hurricane would be just as effective.

By the way, I forgot to mention this last night--as far as the "true identities" topic goes: I agree with SJ--pretending to be someone else would be a lot more convincing when the imaginary one has a personality that isn't exactly the same as the real one.
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
"Why is it there are so many more horses' asses than there are horses?" G. Gordon Liddy
Thursday, April 19, 2001 01:56:12 AM
IP: ppp131-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

*steps in momentarily*

I just wanted to say...I haven't been formally practicing my religion for a bit...but it looks like I'm going to have to start praying again. Every little bit helps, right?
Lexy, Daniel, I Hope that the situations have the best possible conclusions that they can.

...oh, and congrats to Rayvn and Coyote for making the gathering.
*exits*
Lynati Kshudra
Thursday, April 19, 2001 01:53:42 AM
IP: 207.94.232.96

Kit: There, there. There, there.

Lexy, Daniel: Everything Kit said to y'all comes just as much from me. <nods to them, then escorts the sobbing Kit out of the room choking back his own forlorn looks and tears>
Doug
Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:39:13 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.43.dlls.grid.net

Congrats to Freddie Prinze and Sarah Michelle Gellar, who I think look great together. And SJ, I'm sure she doesn't think he's a waste of space- her opinion is what counts. I can not accept that Nicholas Brendon is engaged, though. That hottie must be mine. He Must Be Mine!!!! <suddenly notices Doug looking oddly towards her> Um, of course I can be coerced to accept another hottie in his place. :)

Imzadi: Damn, you really lived five blocks from SMG? Lucky. I've only met three celebrities in my lifetime, one was rude to me (you all know that story) and the other two ignored me after grinning about being recognized (they were Arquettes- they have the right to that attitude, I guess). I've never lived near one. I am jealous. :)

**SPOILERS**
Buffy/Angel eps: Both good. Many funny moments, well-written plots, good character development (especially on Dawn, Spike [who did some very touching things, especially with the flowers- I hope he can become a good guy eventually too], and Cordelia [great comedy bits between her and Angel, and with Harmony also]), and great fight scenes. No theory on Ben from me, I'm just gonna wait and see how things develop. Xander and Anya had a great pillow talk scene in Buffy also, it made Doug and me both grin. :) Much laughter at the many Harmony jokes on Angel too, especially the spilled blood and "Cordelia... Girl, I want to feel ya..." bits. L. My only complaints are that this week's eps made me realize how much less I like Willow now that she seems to have gone exclusively lesbo. Bring Back Oz!!!! <grins> I also have to say I didn't care for the villain's name in the Angel episode, but I'm biased on that. And I thought Harmony sang a lot better than The Host claimed. Maybe that was just me. <shrugs> Looking forward to what's coming up next week.
**SPOILERS END**

Pistoff: Welcome back. <pic section> Hmm, so you want pics that aren't what you don't want but come very close to it. I see. Interesting. :)

Lexy: Condolences on your situation. I'll keep you and your family, your mom especially, in my prayers. Unfortunately, I do not know of any better course of action to propose to you than what Coyote and Firestorm have already, and since you said that wouldn't work... I'll just declare my utmost support for you in the situation, pray for you, and wish you the best of luck. Hang in there.

Daniel Johnson: My prayers and condolences go out to Jim and Sammi. I hope the death is easy on them both, though I know such things as this can never be that way. :( It's so depressing when we fight with unbelievable strength and determination and it ends up futile. Oh well, at least he'll die knowing she loves him beyond belief. <starts to break down and cry>
Kitainia
Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:37:59 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.43.dlls.grid.net

Gunjack> <<You posted John Barleycorn. That makes you a Rightous Dude>>: Do you want me to get back on the who the man bit? You should know how dangerous that is. Though I hadn't really listened to it until you said you liked it, and decided it was something I would like to play for vegetarians.

Kitainia> <>: So I defaulted to the same gender...

Lain> <<you are NOT supposed to tell about the cadbury>>: Mmm. Creme Eggs. Mmm. I have three right here. Mmm.
<<I'VE BEEN HOOKED FOR TWO YEARS!>>: I have visions of Mike from THL. No, that would have been going on longer than two years.

Beth H> <>: You sure about that? Works fine for me. Try http://gk2.gau.hu/~black/index1.htm It's the same place, but the address is just for the entry. Among others, they have NGE, Nadesico, Love Hina, and Gundam Wing.

SRS Jr.> <<Who can name all of the original, individual G.I. Joes by name?>>: Easy: Joe.
Congratulations on the promotion.

Imzadi> <<There's a difference?>>: I've been exposed to fiestaware, and I think I'm still here.

Yooper> <<They give you FORTRAN with that?>>: I did.
<<stupid question for a EE, I know>>: Very much so.

Fire Storm> <<Well, if you do some acid and squint, it looks like him!>>: I thought you also had to stand on your head in a kilt.
<>: Meth for Dummies?
<<Ni Hao!>>: And how! (I knew there was a better response)
<>: For effect?
<<Do I REALLY want to know?>>: Apparently biology majors have something against frogs. Maybe they were flies in a previous life.

Winterwolf> <<typed in a different color “Actually I’m Gside.”>>: Was it one of the eleven official Gside colors?
<>: I should've thought so.

Aaron> <<When the suitor is ready, the female shall appear>>: Then I am fated to live out my days alone.

CtB> <<thanks for turnin' me toward those saxophone sites>>: Not a problem.

Lexy> Best of luck.

Daniel Johnson> Condolences and wishes of peace for your friends.

I now present to you a song that shows exactly why I want the Irish in charge of my funeral: The Night Paddy Murphy Died by Great Big Sea and The Chieftains.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:34:02 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Lexy- I wish I could say something more about this issue you and your mom are going throgh but I hope all of this changes to better, you and your mom hang in there.

SPOLIERS FOR BUFFY/ANGEL
Buffy- Its had to belive that Buffy mom is really gone I never thought this would happen in the series but sadly it did :( And Dawn doing that spell to bring her back but at the end destorying it. And at the closeine Buffy and Dawn breaking down and crying that was touching moment.
Angel- This epsoide was great with Harm coming back and trying to fight in the good side, (for awhile I was in away starting to belive it) but decide that the eveil was her path.
END SPOLIERS
Well I guess that is it
bye!
Sexy Queer - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Ohio
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:17:00 PM
IP: chil-vdsl-nrp-1.bright.net

Lexy: Wow. I don't think I'm mistaken when I say that your dad is really an asshole.
At times like this I wish I could offer some sort of legal advice, or clue you in to a good lawyer who could help you, but I can't. I can only offer you my support.

But it is times like these that I was in the mob. Sopranos style. Cause if I was, Lexy, your dad would be having a nice long chat with some friends of mine.
Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.

Buffy/Angel: I enjoyed both last night. Buffy was pretty fun...not the best, but after such a heavy episode last time, they needed a little something to come down off of. I like the development with Spike, and I do genuinely hope that he's helping the Summers clan out of true concern, and not just some sort of perverse scheme. I sort of want Spike to truly become one of the good guys. And I give kudos to Sarah Michelle Gellar and Michelle Trachtenberg for giving some damn good performances in that last quarter of the show. I don't know how Sarah does it, but she can cry and show emotion like the best of them.
Angel was pretty damn fun. The idea of a vampire pyramid scheme is funny itself, and I liked the idea of throwing Harm in there. High points of the show: Cordy thinking Harm is a lesbian (and her reaction to Willow's revelation of being one) and her reaction to Angel's shopping spree. Charisma is too damn cute. Low points: The much anticipated Willow guest spot lasted all of 90 seconds. And, damnit, we got entirely too little of the Host for my tastes.

Speaking of Gellar, she's finally marrying Freddie Prinze? What a shame. For such a beautiful, talented girl to marry such a supreme waste of space as Freddie Prinze Jr. I guess he's just too pretty of a man for her to let go.
Don't get me wrong--I'm sure that Freddie is a great guy in real life. I'm just saying that he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. A wet paper bag. Keanu Reeves looks upon Freddie Prinze Jr. and laughs.

The Weakest Link: How about the Weakest TV Show? I'm burned out on gameshows. Millionaire has seriously lost its luster and edge, and now they want to thrust clones of it at us. Wait, this one's different--instead of some annoying geriatric old fart hosting the show, we have some annoying geriatric old British bitch hosting this show.
For all the hype of how 'vicious' she was, I found her to be nothing of the sort. She was annoying, that's all. And if I had to hear her whine that horrible tagline (which, if I'm understanding her limey accent right, is something like "youaretheweakestlinkgoodbye") one more time, I would go crazy. Frankly, she wasn't mean enough. Trust me, if I was hosting that show, you would see true, utter cruelty. I would make Gunnery Sgt. Hartman from FMJ proud.

Aaron / Robby: Damnit, just when I was working on a mathematical theorem that would undeniably proove that you two were actually one single entity. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to go back to solving the boring old question of how the universe was truly created (my current theory--a tiger did it. Those bastards at Berkely laughed at me! LAUGHED AT ME!!!!!).
Oh, and again, I thank you--if you had indeed been just one person, at least you were bright enough to make sure your identities were actually separate and distinct.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:09:10 PM
IP: 66-44-63-9.s263.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

lexy>> tomorrow.. i will call my father and see if he can give me his overly-friendly lawyer buddy a call about what you posted in here. maybe it can help, i dont know.

anyway, i know this lawyer friend and he is REALLY nice.. i dont know what his specialty is (i imagine it is environmental stuff cos of the field my dad works in) but he might know OTHER people who can help so even if he cant.. there might be something.. advice.. someone to talk to who will listen.. i dunno.. aaaaanything...

my dad works out of the USA so his lawyer is versed in YER laws, not ours (as much). i think he lives in new york but i might be mistaken about that so dont quote me just yet..

muchly love and hugs,
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:33:37 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Lexy:
I just read your post. I'm afraid I'm in no condition to offer advice right now, but *HUG* back. And thank you.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 09:35:54 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Daniel- They will be in my prayers. *huggs*
Lexy
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:50:33 PM
IP: ac8778ae.ipt.aol.com

I HATE DirecTV. For all the glory and beauty of digital satellite TV, I am plagued by no end of stupid problems. For one, I can't get channels that aren't "local" like WB and UPN. For another, the local channels that I do get are affected by stupid things like sports events. I missed Dark Angel last night because of some stupid Giants vs. Dodgers game...bastards.

Sarah Michelle Gellar is getting married to Prinze!? NO!!!!!!! Damnit, that means I probably won't be seeing her in my neighborhood anymore (yes, she used to live 5 blocks from me). Oh well, I'll have to come between THAT wedding when I take over the world...

Daphne: <<she never *did* take him to the prom>>: Yeah, well I didn't expect her to. Although I know many who went to prom in costume...I can just see THAT scene in TGS...Everyone would comment on how real it looks...until someone steps on Lex's tail...and then prom becomes a blood bath!

Yooper: <>: Semesters do have one advantage. Classes that we take in one semester can take two quarters or trimesters for other colleges (which is 50% MORE class AND another final...as if this crap wasn't hard enough, they gotta break it in TWO?). <<FORTRAN>>: Nope, no Fortran. Matlab has its own built-in programming languages, which is not only easy to use but also much easier to read at a glance than FORTRAN or any other low-level language. <<I'm gonna have to learn that>>: Give me your address and I'll send you a burn of the Student Version 6.0 (which is a slightly scaled down version of the latest release). Unless you use a mac...in which case I'll send a burn of 5.0, which was the last released mac version (though I hear a new one is in the works for OS X...). Anyway, its really a thrill for an engineering student like myself to use. Its blazing fast with array and vector math and the help files are far from "arcane". <<E&M>>: Yes, profs get sadistic pleasure out of giving impossible E&M problems. That's why curves are your friend (and I'm not talking about the curves on a woman...well, those are your friend too, but...well, you get the idea). <<figure out something to help me remember stuff>>: Use the palm desktop software on your computer. You aren't going to lose your computer, and it keeps track of everything a PDA does.

Daniel Johnson: <<Space Balls>>: You win the cybercookie! <<OS X>>: Hey, there's a nifty workaround for putting icons on your hard drives in X over in yesterdays macobserver.com, if your interested.

G.I. Joes: I wasn't allowed to play with these, because my mom didn't like guns in the house and she thought it would make me violent. Well, her efforts to keep violence out of the house only makes my bloodlust worst...the fool!

FS: <<if you do some acid and squint, it looks like him>>: I'll take your word on it. <<as long as she sounds like she is enjoying it>>: Yes, I agree that would be nice. <<DLD only>>: Yeah, she can have it. <<things DLD can't say>>: ESPECIALLY the roommate one. Three girls have left me to go after him. <<maybe Duct Tape IS alien tech!>>: maybe? <<The human, right?>>: Yes, the human. Drool. <<Unless you use them for Solitare>>: What else would you use a palm pilot for?

Pistoff: <<Any drawings can be emailed to me>>: I forsee...a sticky keyboard.

Rayvn and Coyote: See you guys at Gathering! God, saying that is soooo cool. <<requests for dancing>>: There's a dance? Not that it matters, since I don't dance...but it'll be fun to watch the other attendees make asses of themselves...

What if the volume and pressure aren't constant? Well, then you're fucked.
-Angus McLelland, Physics 7b

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:48:56 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-152-31.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Thanks for the suggestions. But in answer to some of your questions we have checked for the state of wisconsin. It pretty much says we HAVE no rights..this whole state is anal retentive. And the real bottom line here, as always, is money. My dad is a FULL TIME LAWYER. My mom is a single parent working two jobs on the grave yard shift. In other words. My dad can fill out all the papers he wants for FREE WHILE he is at work. My mom cant afford to take any days off work, she gets horrible migrains *SP* and is sick enough as it is. We can't afford much of anything, so ppl keep blowing us off. It is a tough, messy case that no person without being handed a lot of doe will touch...
*feels like something is eating her innards*
Lexy
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:48:12 PM
IP: ac8778ae.ipt.aol.com

I just got off the phone with my friend Sammi. Her fiance has brain cancer. Some of you might remember me mentioning him before. Tomorrow will be the second anniversary of his diagnoses. Tonight he is on his death bed. They have fought this with unbelievable strenght and determination. She has been taking care of him alone and is utterly exhausted. Please send your prayers/thoughts/wishes to Jim and Sammi. I'm sorry if this is so depressing, but I'm feeling a bit distraught and needed to babble. I think I'm going to curl up on the floor with the dog.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:44:57 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

**Ravyn enters the room, winking back at Coyote** Oh, fine, make me do the announcing...j/k :) **hugs**

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, everyone! ;) This is soooo cool, because guess what? Coyote and I will *both* be attending the Gathering! Yeee-haww!!! Boys, get any requests for dances with me in early, before my schedule fills up...just kidding. ;) (And don't worry, Coyote, you're already on my list) ;) This will be my very first time meeting anyone from this room, so please, be gentle. ;)

I have to run, but I just wanted to let y'all know the good news! Coyote and I can fill ya in on any other details you wanna know. Hope to see y'all in LA! :)
Ravyn
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:25:22 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Coyote: Boy... it's no wonder he didn't win the seat of Govenor. May he also loose the Detroit mayor's race (You know he will try.)

But, sigh, as bad of a taste it leaves in my mouth, he just may be the best idea. He has about as many people who love him as do hate him, but he DOES get the job done and I think he has only lost one or two cases in recent history (10 years)
Fire Storm
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:19:00 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

And as much as it leaves a bad taste in my mouth to say it ... **winces** I agree with FS. This is the kind of case Fieger has wet dreams about.
Coyote again
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:13:03 PM
IP: 64.243.214.4

Lexy: If ya want my unprofessional opinion ... I'd say you and your mom have to probably go to a different *state* and try to find a lawyer who *isn't* a moron or kissing your dad's ass. You've got yourselves into a horrible Catch22 situation ... as it stands, damned if you do and damned if you don't. I believe that what you need to do ... *both* of you, you and your mom (and get Kai to help if need be, you'll definitely need it) ... is take a careful, anal-retentive and *very* thorough look at your state's custody laws (Wisconsin, right?) and find out *exactly* what your rights are. Another option might be to find yourselves a private investigator and have him do some digging ... if you can produce conclusive and absolute proof of what your dad's doing (so that it goes above and beyond "he said, she said"), then more people are going to be willing to believe you.
Coyote the Bando
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:11:38 PM
IP: 64.243.214.4

Lexy: The only lawyer I know of in the fandom is Pogo, and I am not sure what his specialty is.

If you are looking for someone that may be able to help you and probally won't charge you anything (Provided he can get on the news and/or money from your dad) is Geoffrey Fieger.

It is possible that he may not take up the case, but this seems like the case that can draw alot of attention, which he likes.
Two pages for him are:
http://www.fansoffieger.com/
http://www.onmars.net/governor/biography.html

Good luck. And no, I am no fan of Fieger. I just know that he is a media hog BUT he gets the job done. I would consider him a last resort, and it seems like you may need it.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 08:08:01 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I have this sad, sick feeling in my stomach. I don't know what else to do. So I came here just to see if anyone could help, or knew someone that could. Around last December my dad called my brother on the phone and said "Would you like me to buy you a puppy?" My brother, not being very bright or nice said, ya sure. There were a few catches. My brother had to leave everything he had in one week's time and move down to live with him in Texas. He also had to sign paperwork saying that my mom has been abusing him. That way my dad could have an emergency evacuation of the child ordered. My dad, by the way, is a lawyer. He stole all the money from my brother and I's child support, which he never paied, and went to collage twice. Why did my brother go? I know this is hard to believe for some people, but he really is just like my dad even though they lived mostly apart. He has always been a mean person. Anyway. My mom caught wind of this. She knew why my dad was all of a sudden (after 12 years) interested in having my brother move in with him. He just got a THIRD divorce, and at the time was living off of money from his third wife who was un-godly rich. See my dad is a con-man. Wife number two, you will find if you look, is now on welfair because he used the equity of her home to help pay for his collage education, then ran for it. Now that he has no wife to live with he is using my brother as a golden ticket. My brother can bring in childsupport payments for almost two more years until he is 18. We couldn't stop my brother from leaving this state for a couple of reasons. One: after a child is over the age of 12, they are allowed to decide who they want to live with. Two) Even though we called the school he was going to, and specifically told them NOT to transfer any paper work (so that he could attend school in another state without our permission) the school did it anyway, and YES it is against the law to do that. We called serveral people and they told us to stuff it. So for so many months now my brother has been living with my dad. It is incredible. He will still call my mom on the phone and tell her that she is being crazy. That dad is great and she is just over-reacting to the child abuse claim. He tells her "Look mom. I had to do it so I could live here. It's no big deal." Tells her this while she is crying. I have had to here her cry for months now. It makes my stomach so ill. We don't have enough money to pay for the amounts of child support he is demanding. We tried to get ourselves removed from the custody of him. But they are not allowing that. My dad is teaching him how to drive. A kid that has been in jail for beating people up (ADHD..on a major level) and cant fill out a letter head..doesn't know his address and has writing at the level of a first grader (I am NOT being mean..you would be shocked to see how this kid writes..but anyway) He is teaching HIM how to drive. If he got in an accident WE would still be liable..and have to pay. We have been sent a huge document stating how we have been abusing him for years. PPl..he has been abusing us. My brother makes my mom cry, tells ppl horrible lies and hits me. Give me a break we were abusing him! Here's the best part! It says that my dad had to have an emergency evacuation of my brother on grounds of child abuse, but promptly goes on to say that my brother is to have partial custody only with my mom (not severed) and is supposed to visit us every summer and winter break. ..HELLO!! You would think SOMEONE would have read that and said "wait..so you are acusing her of abuse..but he gets to visit her unattended????" Nope..knowone cares. It also states that we have to pay to send all my brother's belongings that he DIDNT pack to Texas..and if anything breaks or is missing we have to pay for it. We are being charged a grand up front for the switching of the custody even though we DONT agree to it, and we have to pay for the cost of my dad charging US with abuse even though it was free for him. We tried to call lawyers even though we have no money. We thought for sure someone would think this is too obvious. But no. The first guy we called just HAPPENED to be the husband of one of the guidence councelors at my brother's school. He charged us 600 dollars for talking to him and kicked us out of his office. The second person didnt believe us, becuase knowone belives a child would leave like that if they weren't being abused. They never met my brother. The third person apparently KNEW my dad and told us to stuff it, and the last person we called last night told us we should seek counceling because we are such bitter ppl. She goes "Well, dont you want him to visit over the summer?" (you would be surprised how many times we hear that dumb comment) My mom is like "um..NO if he comes back unsupervised I can be charged with MORE child abuse." And she's like "Well thats not right. You should seek counceling." What is this?? What can we do? I can't even help my mom because I have no moeny. Maybe if I get a scholarship I can give that to her, but it wont help for long. She cries everynight, and I can't say anything. Does anyone know someone who would help us? Give us advice or help us go to court or something?? All we want is NO custody. If my brother wants to live with my dad that is fine. But we can't be responsible for everything he does. Plus my dad only wants him for money anyway. Can anyone help me?? Please??
Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 07:49:46 PM
IP: ac9fb5c6.ipt.aol.com

**stumbles in the room for no reason, just to have an interesting entrance**

Gside: Before I forget ... thanks for turnin' me toward those saxophone sites. I came up with a much more satisfactory answer to the question of my horn's value ... saxgourmet.com put it in the $6500 range, plus a 30% premium for gold plating ... by my conservative estimate that puts the horn's value at $8450. MuchmuchmuchMUCH better than the estimate that the appraisers gave me ($2000). Thank you again. :)

Aaron: You're right, I would be.

XenaTrek: Heard about SMG's engagement on the radio this afternoon ... let's see, is anyone willing to take bets on whether this Hollywood marriage is going to last? I'll put my money down on the "less than five years" square. :)

Winterwolf: **looks at Ravyn** Should I tell 'em? **looks back and gives WW a very cryptic look**

General television: Has anyone else in here been watching "The Weakest Link?" I taped the first one (I was at work, watched it after I came home) and watched the second last night ... probably going to watch the third tonight. I must say this show has a very singular charm to it ... Anne Robinson definitely doesn't pull her punches, she's basically saying everything you're SCREAMING at the television, yet with a little more decorum for S&P (doubt you'll ever catch Ms. Robinson calling a contestant a f***ing moron, such as has been passed around this house the last couple of nights. ;)
Oh ... and call me a masochist ... **random yells of "YOU'RE A MASOCHIST!!"**
... but I visited the show's site last night and submitted myself to possibly become a contestant. **grins**

'Sall for me tonight ... **skips out of the room, almost making it out the door** I think I'll let Ravyn tell y'all. :) **skips completely out**
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 06:46:26 PM
IP: 64.243.214.4

"Would the real Co-Admins please stand up? I repeat, would the real Co-Admins please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here."

Gside> <<But master, how will I know when I'm ready.>> When the suitor is ready, the female shall appear.

Josh> <<There are Rocky showings in TEXAS!? That was the last place I expected to see them.>> Austin is a big college town. Lots of weirdness. If Skippy could ever get back, you could ask him about it.

Shadowrider> Congrats on the car.

Warpy>I'll e-mail you with the details when they're worked out. We just wanted to know if you had the power. <> Well, that would be hard to prove, as we really are one... Oh, you meant physically. Well, all the pics of us together seem to be down. (Mandi, Wolfie, I can't access either of your pages anymore) So, you'll have to take the word of everyone who saw us together at G2K. Besides imagine if you were right... Coyote really would be justifiably pissed at me, if I'd female-impersonated on him.

Ravyn> Congrats on the possible Gathering attendance, hope to see you there.

Peter> Welcome back

Big Steve> Well, I only have one pic of Robby and I together. Let me see if I can find it...

FS> <<Robby//Aaron: So, let me get this straight...
There are actually, PHYSICALLY two of you, but only one of you posts in here?>> Sigh. No. We are separate people, both of whom post here. We just get mistaken for each other a heck of a lot. (Why do I have the feeling we're going to still be sorting through the fallout from this *next* April Fools?)

Winterwolf> <<Aaron> Talk about giving the CR a topic to talk about. So you are Aaron and Robby!?!? O.o>> See response to FS. And feel free to send more cold air down Texas way.

"F**k it, let's all stand up."

Aaron, aka the Real Slim Shady - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 06:26:44 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

ALLAINE - Yes, I thought of "The Monkey's Paw", too. That was the one thing I forgot to mention in my review this morning.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 06:17:03 PM
IP: sdn-ar-004mosloup239.dialsprint.net

We may have different names, but in reality we're both just BOB!
Always Just Bob...
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 04:15:05 PM
IP: 129.174.196.186

Hidey Ho...
Sideshow Bob 2
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 04:14:08 PM
IP: 129.174.196.186

Hidey ho.....
Sideshow Bob
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 04:13:08 PM
IP: 129.174.196.186

News on Buffy from just about every entertainment related sites:

"Sarah Michelle And Freddie Engaged. Hollywood lovers Sarah Michelle Gellar and Freddie Prinze Junior announced their engagement at her 24th birthday last Saturday. The stunning Buffy The Vampire Slayer actress had a joint celebration with her agent Eddie Yablans in Los Angeles, California. Prinze, with whom she is currently filming the movie Scooby-Doo, presented her with a ring designed by Cathy Waterman. The gorgeous couple has not announced when and where they will tie the knot. "

Sorry guys! More later.

XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 03:26:18 PM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

**Mandi stumbles in.**

Delurking only because I need a second from my damn Web Programming stuff. I may manage to graduate, but whether or not I graduate a nervous wreck is still anyone's guess.

**BUFFY STUFF**

Ben> I also think Ben's inept... but it occurred to me that if Glory needs to "suck the sanity" out of people to retain her own, what about Ben? Has he done it himself, or doesn't he need to? Perhaps he does need to, but hasn't gone after anyone - or has only done so when it's a desperate emergency - so he's probably unraveling as a result. Just a thought.

I still haven't seen either ep because I was at dress rehearsal and the VCR decided it didn't want to tape. I'll be SO happy when this play is over and done with. :)

**Mandi stumbles out again**
Mandolin
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 03:22:37 PM
IP: 144.175.21.16

yeah i did type it right..
BTW in case you were wondering.. its a no-spoiler-yet-kinda-interesting site..
NICHOLAS BRENDAN IS ENGAGED!!!!!!
lain (sorry again)
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 02:50:03 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

my friend just sent me this site..
(the link is long so i hope i typed it right..)
lain - [<<< CLICKY FOR BUFFY-STUFF]
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 02:47:59 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Hi everybody! Been planning for my sister’s b-day. Big news also as she is going to have her first kid! Hey that will make me an uncle! She’s my only sib you know. There’s still quite a while to wait. The timing is somewhere in September to October.

Gside> <Niamhgold pulling off a Gside> Well she started off as Niamhgold. Then after about 5 minutes she deadpanned and typed in a different color “Actually I’m Gside.” I think she used a couple of choice words that were convincing. Then before I realized I’ve just been duped she hits me with the April Fools. As for the ISP I was too shocked to notice until it was too late. LOL Anyway, now I’m prepared for next time. <Just drop a couple wangs, make oblique hentai references, and maybe say something engineeringlike.> She did! I vaguely don’t quite remember... but she’s very clever. ;D

SOROW> Yay! You will be happier. As for the sane part it’s overrated. ;)

Aaron> Talk about giving the CR a topic to talk about. So you are Aaron and Robby!?!? O.o

Niamhgold> <starbusrts> What ever did happen to those starbursts? Did you get the munchies? ;) <42 eggs> I’m more inclined to say you where happy to bag exactly 42 eggs since that answers the question of how many you’d get. ^_^ <photoshop> I might be able to teach you a few things. I spent a year teaching web development and Photoshop classes so I might be helpful. :) <Plans and Easter> Well after talking with you I know that worked out. Kudos! You deserve all the best. So I’m happy things are going fairly well. <Gside> Yeah! That’s how it was! But now there’s no need to fool Gside. You knew how long you could fool me you trickster you! ;P

Beth> Excellent! I’m happy you’re happy. Hope you continue to have fun with David. That doesn’t sound quite right but oh well. LOL

Shadowrider> I guess it’s time to take it to snail mail. See you when you get your next pass in a few weeks.

Daphne> Eep! So late... Happy Belated Birthday!

Ravyn> Congrats! Are you going with Coyote to the Gathering?

Lawrence> Welcome back.

DPH> <letting the cold air back in> Oh it’s April isn’t it. I better stop that then. ;)

Have to run! Bye!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 01:52:22 PM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

1 to 3 more days.

wait a minute: Daniel Johnson doesn't deny that we are one and the same person?

Neither Pokemon nor Digimon are pure evil. Pokeball, PokeRap

Damn Sinus problems are bothering me.

A friend of mine went to the hospital last night. I promised not to mention what it's about.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:06:13 PM
IP: max1-23.cwy.cei.net

GI Joe- hell we all remember that show. never in my life have I ever seen to opposing forces fire off more rounds and hit absolutely nothing! (except those BAT robots)
I still think that line Sgt. Slaughter says in the movie is my favorite. It's amazing how much we can remember and that show has been gone for years.
Love on the battlefield? Sounds like Metal Gear to me.

Well I suppose that's it.

"You're gonna leave this place one of two ways, as a man or in a diddy bag. An itty, bitty, diddy bag."
-Sgt. Slaughter-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:42:08 AM
IP: ac9fba71.ipt.aol.com

*steps in, yawning*
gmorning all.. okay so its around ten but ive been up since 4am so it still counts!

aaaaggggggggmmmmmph.. exams are stinky. and that is all i have to say about that. right now i think i have to make a trip to the saintly BULK BARN where all things delicious are REALLY CHEAP!!! ;)

todd>> *********BUFFSTER SPOILERS*************8
yeah i liked these two episodes aswell. i was thinking that when dawn and spike went to see that old guy, they would make something or some reference to the tune he was whistling but.. they didnt. boo..
and as for why spike was helping.. i heard this rumour awhile back that sooooomeone is having (or is going to have) a crush on spike.. and it aint gonna be buff. wonder if its the dawnster? now that WOULD be funny....
;)
i wonder whats going to happen about buffy and angel.. they reintroduced them in that ep and showed that they both still have feelings for each other. didnt something in angel awhile back say that he was going to get his humanity back? and riley is gone and.. *the musings begin*
and ben? yeah.. hes kinda unstable.. and a moron, methinks..

in angel, i thought cordy screaming "I GOT CLOOOOOTHES!!! YOU HAVE THE FASHION SENSE OF A GAY MAN!!!!!!!!!!" was rather funny.. and her thinking harmony was a lesbian was rather humourous aswell. (especially the phone conversation with willow.. tee hee)
and i also think angel taking orders from wesley was a nice touch..
*****************END BUFFY**************

IN OTHER NEWS:

Harvey Ball, the man who invented that oh-so-wonderful bright yellow smiley-face, died on thursday in worcester, mass. at the age of 75. i believe he died of liver failure.
at any rate.. when he inveneted the smiley, he sold it for 45$.. can you imagine?? wonder how much that thing is actually WORTH today..

josh>> huh.. i never really liked akima from the titan: ae movie.. i dunno why. come to think of it i never seem to like animated female characters (with the possible exception of mulan and of COURSE demona....) and well obviously lain from SE: LAIN. duh.. but thats anime so i guess its a little different.. hmmmm...

thats about it for now i think.. im off to the bulk barn to satisfy my cravings for cheap post-easter chocolate.. :D

love,
lain "build it out of gopher barky barky" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:23:46 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

MORE "BUFFY" SPOILERS

Todd: <Ben> I think he's inept. Remember when Dawn told him the truth in "Blood Ties"? He basically turned into a hysterical wreck. Like, just spit it out, get her out of the room, leave, do something other than panicking! Of course, Glory isn't the brightest bulb either. It's a good thing they're gods, b/c otherwise they'd be dead in a week. She pulled her own hair out, for goodness' sake! They're like freakin' Jackal and Hyena (or Alan and Anne, if you go for Sailor Moon). Oh, and did you catch the Monkey's Paw references last night?

G.I. Joe: I kinda had the hots for Scarlett when I was a kid. I remember when she saved Destro and herself from dying in a plane crash, and Chrome Dome still dragged her off to Cobra Commander. Putz. And Snake Eyes, my favorite, for some reason reminded me of Soundwave from Transformers. Don't ask. Btw, when Cobra wore his blue hood instead of his mask, didnt he look like a Quarryman? And do you realize how much money the parachute industry made off of Cobra? Every time a chopper or plane blew up, out popped a soldier in a parachute.
<Joe fell in love with a Cobra> You mean like when Kimber and Stormer fell in love on Jem? (Oh come on, you know they did. Stormer - a Misfit with some human decency. No wonder she was my favorite character. I loved it when her brother wrapped a desk lamp around Eric's neck.)
I didn't think I remembered so much 80s cartoons *boggle*

Sincerely, Allaine
P.S. Did Cobra once make that Potemkin car salesman from NJ the King of Alaska, or is that from my fevered imagination?
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 09:51:06 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

I enjoyed both last night. A few specific comments.

BUFFY: Quite a good one, including Angel's brief visit (I'm glad that he showed up to offer his condolences), the Key arc getting advanced a little more, and Dawn's aborted effort to resurrect Joyce. (Which, I must admit, I'm glad that it failed - not that I've got anything against Joyce, but I do think that it would have been a cop-out to bring her back). I do find myself wondering what Spike's up to here; while it's understandable enough that everybody else thought in the episode that his actions were just part of his "stalking Buffy" attitude, he does go to great lengths to make certain that she doesn't know that he was part of them, such as the unlabeled flowers. (And maybe Spike did like Joyce in a way; she was willing enough to listen to him talk about his problems with Drusilla a couple of seasons ago - which I found, in a way, one of the funniest moments in "Buffy", I might add - and he may well remember that).

Anybody besides me starting to wonder a little about Ben? Despite his claims that he wants to keep Glory from locating the Key, I'm not certain that he's handling it too well. He accidentally slips out to her minion that the Key is now a human - and when he attempts to do it in to stop it from blabbing to her, he does a poor enough job that it lives long enough to tell Glory. Is he just inept, or is there some darker possibility here, I wonder?

ANGEL: I found this one quite funny. Vampires setting up pyramid schemes? That's definitely a new low for them - staking is just too good for some members of the Undead. And I chuckled quite a bit at Harmony's usual behavior (especially the remark that her nickname of "Harm" was very appropriate). Maybe it's just as well that she decided to stay a bad guy - she can do the forces of darkness a lot more damage by fighting for them than against them :) On the more serious drama side, I quite liked Angel's efforts to mend the bridges with Cordelia and the recognition of how difficult it would be.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 07:23:50 AM
IP: 168.191.170.93

Okay, wasn't thinking. I already have a picture of Boiler that isn't humorous, but it *is* very nice. :) So not *every* picture should be funny, there can be a range from serious to amusing, but I'd like the overall tone to be humorous/fun. Just to see the characters in a different light, as in just enjoying a day off and not being shot at or something. ;)

Hmm. Lack of sleep causing weird ideas to form. Just had a mental image of Shadow standing with a beach ball held under one arm, grinning and giving the finger to somebody outside the edge of the picture. I guess it seems like something she would do. ;)

Hmm. A nice one would be Rocky and Ralphie sitting and cuddling while they watch their kids building a sand castle...

Taura holding up the rear end of Jack's hearse while he and Delilah change one of the tires... Okay, that one's kinda odd...

Goliath buried up to his neck in sand, and Elisa holding a little plastic shovel. That'd be amusing. I doubt Goliath would look too happy about it, though. ;)

Heh...guess I had more ideas for this than I thought I had. Well, anyway, there are a lot of possibilities....

Okay, time for me to shut up and try to catch some Z's. :P

Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
"Time for go to bed." -- Tor Johnson in "Bride of the Monster"
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 03:21:14 AM
IP: ppp104-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Fire Storm><<Where abouts? Houghton?>>I'm a student at Michigan Tech, but I grew up in Marquette county. I stay in the college dorms during the week, and generally go home on weekends.
<< Those are evil. Just like all organizers.>> I have thought about getting a PDA, but I would probably either forget to use that too, or just forget the thing somewhere. I probably should figure out something to help me remember stuff.

That reminds me, I have an assignment due tomorrow.
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 01:50:58 AM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Good bit of work to do today. Will post tomorrow.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 01:49:12 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Movingsucksmovingsucksmovingsucks... I'm still unpacking because I'm working eight hours a day while moving, and still trying to get some writing done, and I'm still behind on emails, and so many of my customers need to have their lips sewn shut so I won't have to hear questions like, "How much does your $9.99 pizza cost?" or "What comes on a pepperoni pizza?" or "How big is the 16-inch pizza?" I don't have the time or energy to Joyride them all, so just consider them Joyrided. I'll get back to a real Joyride as soon as I can....

Okay, now that I have a spare moment, a couple of things...

People selling home-dubbed copies of Gargoyles episodes on Ebay: Personally, I couldn't care less. If somebody is gonna pay $150 or more for friggin' homemade copies, then it's a case of a fool and his money being parted. There are plenty of people who are willing to make copies for nothing more than the price of the blank videotapes and postage.

Now that I got that out of the way...I've redesigned the main page of my website slightly. It now has a "What's New" column, and the first one is about something a couple friends and I have been talking about--a swimsuit calendar featuring characters from my fics. It started off as a sort of joking thing, then I figured, "Why not?" ;)

I'm not really too picky about the subject matter, except that I'm not interested in any nudes or pictures of characters screwing. But aside from that, it'd be interesting to see what people do with the idea, if anybody wants to give it a shot.

A couple of random ideas...maybe one with Jack, Delilah and Taura on the beach, with Delilah grinning and squeezing one of Taura's breasts, Taura looking mortified, and Jack looking as if he's thinking, "Oh crap..." ;) Or maybe one of Rocky holding her bra in one hand and looking disgusted because it doesn't fit anymore, and Ralphie covering her breasts with his hands (or trying to, at least, but his hands aren't big enough to cover *everything*...they'll cover the "main" part, though... ;)

And I know one or two people who would like to see a pic or two of Boiler. :D

So, anyway...the "tone" of the whole project should be very humorous. :P

So, if any artists would like to give this a shot, I'd be honored and delighted. :D Any drawings can be emailed to me.... :)
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Wednesday, April 18, 2001 01:29:20 AM
IP: ppp104-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Gunjack > that article sounds like just the thing. Can't wait!

Warpmind > here's hoping you have time to finish!

Spike sent me this link, check it out, Survivor with giant rubbery monsters, whee!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:39:18 PM
IP: 08-199.075.popsite.net

Imzadi: <cute picture of Doug in disguise>
Well, if you do some acid and squint, it looks like him!
<What about it? Pretty irrelevant if you ask me...>
True... but as long as she sounds like she is enjoying it, right? TRUST me. Makes everything a little better.
<Oh, the ALD? Ah, pretty irrelevant there too... hehe>
DLD only? Ok.
<Can you just make her taste like chocolate?>
I am gonna have enough problems getting artists to draw her proportions accurately! Then getting the skin color right...
We'll see.

Along with: "I don't feel like making dinner tonight!"
"Haven't you played anough Quake yet?"
"MORE Coke? Why don't you have some milk?"
"Man, your room mate is HOT!"
<And that would be different from the real thing HOW?>
Do you want one that is TOTALLY like a woman? No.
Do you want one that is TOTALLY dependant on you? Trust me, no.
I can make her BETTER!
<Awesome. You are a true engineer, for you can do anything with Duct Tape (yes, it should ALWAYS be capitalized)>
Duct Tape is better than Alien tech. Hell, maybe Duct Tape IS alien tech!
And if you find a job that Duct Tape can't fix... Thats what foil backed tape is for!
And if that dosn't help... may the gods have mercy on us all!
<::looks around:: I haven't seen an admin in weeks...>
Lain has been around.
<Hey FS, if you have trouble making a gargoyle LD, could you just make one of her instead?>
The human, right? Not the leggy alien?
<that shouldn't affect your data at all.>
You don't know my system... I have had a NIC go out and nuke my data also.
The biggest problem was that I kept getting HD access errors in my system log after I mirrored my hard drives. Thats why I upgraded my bios (It was supposed to make my RAID controler work better), which fried my MB.
FORTUNATELY, I didn't loose my data.

Yooper: <Yeah, I am from da U.P. How'd ya guess? :-)>
I am local. I can tell these sort of things! ;)
Where abouts? Houghton? Got family that is either still going to college up there or graduated recently. No idea.
<haven't met any other people from Michigan online, mostly since I have trouble remembering to check forums on a daily basis>
Well, there's four of us in here. Me, Lady Mystic, Coyote the Bando and you.

Those are evil. Just like all organizers. And Palm Pilots. Unless you use them for Solitare.
<Now all we need is a ChemEng to round it out>
I make meth, does that count? ;) (Kidding)

Sexy Queer: <Then I went by real name Lawrence>
I think I remember you...

Gside: <Fear of contamination>
Curses! My plans have been revealed!
<Yea verily>
Ni Hao!
<No, just making sure it does what I want when I want>
Yeah, no making it go crazy, grab a gun and kill everyone within a mile! Hmm...

VERY true. Boo just makes it alot easier!
<Mostly duct tape>
Yeah. I just added the other two.
<Has he ever been pithed?>
DISGUSTING! (Makes notes...)

Do I REALLY want to know?
YES!

Warpmind: <So the sale is banned? Hmmm... Well, that just means I can under no circumstances make money in any manner there... at least not legally. };)>
Well, there is only one county in the entire country that is legal in.

Doug: <Glad you remembered that pic. :)>
I remember alot from that gathering.
Everything since that, though...

SJ: <Sadly, only Fire Storm got this right.>
I recconized it after the first few notes.
Sad, eh?

One episode of GI Joe keeps going through my mind, though. One of the Joes fell in love with a Cobra, bad things happened, and the last scene of the show is a split screen of both of them, back-to-back, with the moon above them.

Robby//Aaron: So, let me get this straight...
There are actually, PHYSICALLY two of you, but only one of you posts in here?
But... who... MY PAPER WORK!... what... signature?...gah...
::Were sorry. The neural Cortex Fire Storm has shut down due to a Core Memory Dump. Please, try your post again later::
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:13:47 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I have too much of a big headache right now, so I'll just pop in to make sure everyone is okay.
SOROW
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:07:11 PM
IP: a020-0808.dll2.splitrock.net

SJ/Doug/Kit - Cool... but, then again, I think I can do that list better by one. <grins>

Let's see... for the original Joe Team (from Seasons 1 and 2 of the Sunbow/Hasbro series) we have:

Ace, Airborne, Airtight, Alpine, Barbeque, Bazooka. Beach Head, Blowtorch, Breaker, Clutch, Cover Girl, Cross Country, Cutter, Deep Six, Dial Tone, Doc, Duke, Dusty, Flash, Flint, Footloose, Frostbite, Grunt, Gung-Ho, Hawk, Heavy Metal, Iceberg, Lady Jaye, Law (and his dog Order), Leatherneck, Lifeline, Lift Ticket, Low-Light, Mainframe, Mutt (and his dog Junkyard), Quick Kick, Recondo. Rip Cord, Roadblock, Rock 'N Roll, Scarlett, Sci-Fi, Shipwreck, Short Fuse, Slip Stream, Snake Eyes, Snow Job, Sparks, Spirit (and his Eagle Storm, Stalker, Steeler, Thunder, Tollbooth, Torpedo, Tripwire, Wild Bill & Zap

Cobra had:

Baroness, Buzzer, Cobra Commander, Copperhead, Destro, Dr. Mindbender, Firefly, Major Bludd, Ripper, Scrap Iron, Serpentor, Storm Shadow, Torch, Tomax, Wild Wiesel, Xamot, Zandar, Zarana, Zanzibar and Zartan. Also if I recall, Cobra had many sub-classes of their standard soldier: BATS (Battle Android Troopers), Vipers, Techno-Vipers & TeleVipers (communications), Eels (frogmen), Snow Serpents & Ice Vipers (cold weather fighters), Crimson Guard (elite troops), HeatVipers (Heavy Explosive Assault Troops), StratoVipers (high-altitude fighters), PitVipers (CBG soldiers) and standard Cobras and Cobra Officers.

Let's not forget the G.I.Joe Movie! the Joes had:

Big Lob, Chuckles, Lt. Falcon, Jinx, Mercer, Red Dog, Sgt. Slaughter and Taurus join up. While the Cobras discovered Cobra-La and Golobulus, Monkeywrench, Nemesis Enforcer, Pythona, Thrasher

And finally, as a bonus reference... who could forget the limited edition figure of Walter "Refridgerator" Perry?!? He never appeared in a episode, but he was considered an honorary Joe! ^_^

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:51:30 PM
IP: 2416419hfc196.tampabay.rr.com

GI Joe> Name the original originals. The guys from the first pilot movie like Duke and Scarlet, Gung Ho and Snake-Eyes. One of my personal favs was Wild Bill, not because he was Texan, but because he can haul some serious A in helicopter. Snake-eyes though was definative cool. Didn't talk but always had a trick up his sleeve. Others like Shipwreck the Dreadnoughts and Spirit came in subsequent movies like the Weather Dominator and the Pyramid of Darkness.

Original Joes: Duke, Scarlet, Doc, Wild Bill, Torpedo, Snake-eyes, Cover girl, and Gung Ho. (I know I'm missing at least two)

Original Cobras: Cobra Commander, Destro, Baroness, and Major Bludd.

And lets not forget the ubiquitous joe (green fatigues and round pith helmet) and ubiquitous cobra (dressed in blue)

Ah, the 80's, commericals disguised as cartoons. So subtle.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:49:20 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Why are so many people having computer/ISP problems? Who is behind this conspiracy? Thank the UNIX daemons that I've been so blissfully free of such incidents, but just to make sure, I'm going to find some wood to knock on.

Robby/Aaron:
You do realize that no matter what you say now, no one is going to believe you. :)
----
Imzadi:
<<123456...combo on their luggage (guess the reference!)>>
Oh! Oh! I know this one! Space Balls!

Well, I had absolutely nothing useful to say.

"Now you see that Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb." -- Lord Dark Helmet
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:36:22 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Yooper walks into the room and collapses onto a convenient sofa.

I hate semesters. The administrator that decided to change Michigan Tech over from 10-week quarters should be dragged out into the middle of US-41 and beaten bloody. This term should have ended three weeks ago.

Oh well, I have a pistol match on Friday to look forward to.

Imzadi><<"beginning programming for engineers">>They give you FORTRAN with that?
<<We learn how to use Matlab, which is an amazing programming environment thats perfect for scientists and engineers>>I'm gonna have to learn that program. I have tried Maple and MathCAD, and disliked both. Especially MathCAD. It has about 5 different equals signs, bizzare matrix setups, uses pounds as mass, and an arcane helpfile.
<<E&M>>Tell your prof that E&M isn't hard. The exam is a vehicle where professors demonstrate exactly how hard you can make problems using the simple-looking equations they tell you in lecture. Seriously tho, I'm not worried about the difficulty of the exam. I'm just lazy and b****ing about studying.

Gside><<The secret to physics (and maybe some engineering) is aproximations>>Maybe some engineering? You haven't had fluid mechanics, have you? (stupid question for a EE, I know :-) ) "The Moody chart...is accurate to +/-15% for design calculations over the full range shown..." (White, Fluid Mechanics, 4th ed.) I think the phrase "good enough for government work" was invented by engineers.

Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:30:32 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Josh>> <Would that group include Lexington? > nah. if anything, she's using him. she never *did* take him to the prom...

Daphne - [suburbanbubble@hotmail.com]
the suburban bubble
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:22:57 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.209.146.philadelphia1.level3.net

Dreadnoks: You're forgetting two--Zanzibar, who was a pirate with really bad fashion sense, and one of my all-time favorites, Gnawgahyde, the poacher (his toy had the coolest sneer!).

Interesting but totally worthless bit of G.I.Joe trivia: The braintrust behind the Joes (the Hasbro toy company) originally planned for the Dreadnoks to be some sort of killer teddy bear (thank you, George F***ing Lucas, because he was the inspiration for it. Goddamn Ewoks...). Fortunately for us all, comic artist/writer Larry Hama, who brought us the really great Joe comic at Marvel (and who has never gotten his props for turning out such a great comic), convinced them to let him create the Dreadnoks. And voila, instead of a damn teddy bear, we got a group of bad-ass bikers.

The G.I. Joe mp3s can be found at Evilface's site. Click on the link to go there.
They aren't clips of the show, but rather some really funny bits done by Evilface (and others) AS the Dreadnoks and other characters. You know those really weird PSA segments that the Joes did after every episode? They do those, only with Cobra/Dreadnoks (the Tomax and Xamot one is not to be missed, as well as Torch's advertisement of the benefits of adult language ;).

And you'll get some great musical numbers too, by Cold Slither. Especially don't miss the wonderfully fresh, hip, dope, insert urban reference for cool here, rap done by Dr. Mindbender and Vanilla Ice (Viper), "Cobra Commander In The Hood".
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 05:41:51 PM
IP: 66-44-72-53.s53.tnt10.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Okay this is gonna be a long post...

First: ARGH! I hate Pacbell! May they freeze in Dante's 9th circle for all of eternity! ::Grabs DC and throws him in the iron maiden. Looks at watch. Forty seconds later, pulls DC out of the maiden and throws him on the rack and stretches him for a few minutes. Then pulls him off and uses his turbo-shaking arms (guess what THOSE are for) to violently THROTTLE the bastard!::

I lost my entire connection last night all night because Pacbell changed all of its customer's passwords "to prevent hacking". Well guess what? They changed all the passwords to "123456", which is probably the combo on their luggage (guess the reference!). Tell me exactly, how does changing EVERY DSL's customer's password to the same six-digit number prevent hacking? BTW, I've already changed my password, so don't try anything funny.

MMMMMM. Yummy sushi dinner at Yoshi's in Oakland (a.k.a. the Ghetto) a couple nights ago.

I made a beautiful 32x32 icon of Fox's face (well, my opinion is biased, of course) from Dreamie's "Fox and Alex" drawing. Thanks Dreamie, you rule. Wanna do a Titania?

In other news, I got C on my philosophy midterm (which I spent all of an hour studying for) and I finished my programming project. At first, a C on a midterm looks bad, but then you realize that the class is pass/fail and as long as everything is C or higher, I'm definitely gonna pass...ah, a very relaxing class all in all.

All that and I finished the first draft of my second philosophy paper. Joy!

Daphne: <<spray bottle>>: OH! Now I get it! <<fellow Liz-user>>: Would that group include Lexington?

Beth: <>: Cowards do amazing things with tape recorders these days. Getting him to spill his guts...well...the fastest way to a man's heart is through his stomach or his fly (depends on the guy). Glad you're enjoying break. A word of warning, though: Crouching Tiger sucks more than Jenna Jameson.

Yooper: <<CE>>: You better believe it. I wouldn't touch EE to save my soul, even if I had one to save. Programming is not a hobby of mine, I'm just taking a class in it, basically a "beginning programming for engineers" class. We learn how to use Matlab, which is an amazing programming environment thats perfect for scientists and engineers because of the ways it handles large arrays of data. Anyway, I'm getting pretty good at it, maybe I'll make it a hobby... <<physics exam>>: Don't worry about E&M. Its easy stuff. What's your midterm on specifically, maybe I can give you a few pointers.

Peter: <<Tough>>: Hey, if YOU wanna be tarred and feathered, that's your business.

Gside: <<Hey!>>: Heh, heh. <<The secret to physics (and maybe some engineering) is aproximations>>: I know the mathematical logic, I'm just making fun. <<we are all spheres>>: My advice would be to never say that to a woman. <<Mostly duct tape>>: An real engineer can build ANYTHING with duct tape. No, FS, that does NOT mean you can make the DLD out of duct tape...that would be stickier than coke from the nipples. <<Lain's been in here>>: Heh, heh. Like I said, haven't seen an admin in weeks...maybe we're just not being rowdy enough. She hasn't done any admin-ly things. <<ICBA. Such a fun concept>>: LOL. <<neutron bomb radioactive, or
fiestaware radioactive?>>: There's a difference? <<

Rayvn: <<we engineers are just taking over the CR>>: We start small. The world is next...

Allaine: <<pokemon>>: No. You missed my point entirely. Even talking about Pokemon is terrible, whether you associate yourself with good or bad pokemon. Its the stupidest thing EVER created. I know because I worked in a Game Keeper, a.k.a. Wizards of the Coast outlet for all things Pokemon.

Sorow: <>: My bad. That means someone didn't get good vibes that was supposed to...oh well, not important anyway.

Warpmind: <>: What is it exactly that you do for a living?

SJ: <<to recruit young people for Cobra>>: I'm not just the president, I'm also a member...

Lain: <<Akima is pretty cool but>>: She's the perfect woman. Nice body, flawless features, cool hair, and smart but not smarter than me 8-).

FS: <<motherboard fried>>: that shouldn't affect your data at all.

Lynati: <>: No, Adeema was the best part of AE, not the "planet bob" thing. That was the second-best part.

Pyrex Pickle Blowfish
- Topper Harley, Hot Shots!

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 05:38:14 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-93.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Dreadnoks: Buzzer, Ripper, Torch, Monkeywrench, Road Pig, Zartan, Zandor, Zarana, Thrasher (Thunder Machine driver), I think that's it.

Original Joes: Alpine, Bazooka, Lady J, Duke, Scarlet, Flint, Hawk, Snake Eyes, Gung-Ho, Beachhead, I can remember a lot more but I'm not sure if they're original or not.
Kitainia
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 05:21:53 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.76.dlls.grid.net

Stephen: You forgot Zandor. There was also some green-haired guy who drove their "Thunder Machine" truck. Can't remember his name.
Doug
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 05:00:59 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.76.dlls.grid.net

Greetings all...

SJ : Cold Slither, eh? That's something I haven't heard of in a long time... but, what would have impressed me if you had named all of the individual Dreadnoks (aka Torch, Ripper, Buzzsaw, Zartan, Zarten & Zarana and Road Pig). Actually, here's a thought: Who can name all of the original, individual G.I. Joes by name? (BTW, where is this site with all the Joe mp3s?)

AARON/ROBBY - In truth, I'll have to see either an authenticated picture of the two of you to believe that you're two people...

And, before I close, I just wanted to share what I got for my birthday last week (since now I have time to sit down and make this post):

- A new 133mhz computer (to use as a backup when my old system gets fixed)
- A DVD Player
- Four DVDs : Bubblegum Crisis Vol.1, Tarzan, Legend of The Drunken Master & Titan A.E.(Special Edition).
- A new Microphone (for my sound card)
- A Disney porcelain mug, featuring concept art of Tink from Peter Pan.

Oh, and some other news: Last night I finished the last of my Advanced Crew Class sessions (a step along the way into management at McDonalds)... I only got one wrong on the final test, and the group I participated in for the class competition won "Best Team" (got a shiny gold pin for my work cap!). Plus, I found out I'm finishing #2 academically overall in the class, which impressed the corp bosses and my store owner. So much so, she's signed me up for Area Manager (that's equivalent to a Crew Leader). Classes for that start next week... oi, will I be busy!

Anyway, that's all from me... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 04:50:18 PM
IP: 2416419hfc196.tampabay.rr.com

Gside>I tried the address you gave me, but I ended up on a website from Thailand with nothing on it but squares. O.o
Beth H.
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 02:20:33 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*Lynati leans in*

urmm...to lain and Warps and those that I confused... Movemout day isn't until May. Sorry for the confusion.

You know, i keep wanting to comment on something, and I keep forgetting what it is when I go to post. I even wrote it doen this time...can't find it.

and I agree with Imzadi; the best part of Titan AE (other than corso...NEVER WATCH THIS MOVIE WITH LAIN!! SHE DROOOOLS over him!!) was that they named the planet "Bob" at the end. that made every single cheesy Star Treck rip-off scene worth it. ;)

all for now.
*Lynati Exits*
Lynati Kshudra
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 01:55:27 PM
IP: 205.184.255.82

daphne>> well i see some people have beaten me to it but yes, it was great big sea who made the fastest version of its the end of the world as we know it (and i feel fine) known to man.

lynati>> TACKLE HUGS!!!!!! :D YER BAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!! what.. yer goin again????? awww shoot : P

gunjack..>> i am going to keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell you!!!!! with KILLY DEATH!!!!!!!!!! (and a few rabid gerbils) you are NOT supposed to tell about the cadbury.. ever.. you JERKFACE!!!
ok ok i forgive you.. THIS time...
but dont expect me to go searching for the little cherry filled ones in the bulk bin EVER AGAIN if you keep this up...
;)

man.. this stinks.. i wanna go to the gathering sooooooo badly GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i a) had some way to get there, b) had somewhere to stay and c) didnt have STUPID SUMMER SESSION COS IM CHANGING MAJORS i could go..
*siiiigh*
next year.. neeeext year i will meet all of you.. i hope..

josh>> titan ae????? you like TITAN AE?????!?!?!?!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Akima is pretty cool but.. i still think joseph corso ROCKS THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

and now for some random silliness:
(sorry ;))jacob says:
RESIST IT MAN!!!!!!!!
Warpmind de InzanE says:
I CAN'T!!!
jacob says:
RESIST THE CORRUPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!! SAAAAAAAAAAAAVE YOURSEEEEEEEELFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warpmind de InzanE says:
I'VE BEEN HOOKED FOR TWO YEARS!!!
jacob says:
YOU CAN DO IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIGHT THE DEMON!!!!!!!! FIGHT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warpmind de InzanE says:
I CAN'T!!!
jacob says:
HAVE FAITH AND YOU WILL TRIUMPH!!!!! look at me man...
Warpmind de InzanE says:
*Right hand suddenly begins reaching for various kitchenware*
jacob says:
look into my eyes.... its okay its okay *grabs warps' hands*
Warpmind de InzanE says:
*Begins fighting against evil right hand*
jacob says:
DONT GIVE IN MAN!!!!!!!!!! FIIIIIIIIIIGHT IT!!!!!!!

*me trying to convince warpmind that he doesnt want to play the evil that is "clickomania"...*

hmmmm...
thats about it..
i was soooooo hoping SJ would respond to the rant i wrote last week but.. looks like i missed out *sigh*
oh well..

i am off to study more.. i might be in messenger later though. maybe. if im lucky.
if not catch you tomorrow when i am back at rez
i have interesting things to tell you about my father.. tee hee.. i am sure you will enjoy : D

love,

lain "thats a mere slip-up for you, gunjy wunjy" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 01:19:32 PM
IP: ttyb15.ptbo.igs.net

Gside> <<Ravyn> <<we engineers are just taking over the CR, aren't we?>>: Just part of the overall plan>> Hey, don't tell 'em about the plan!!
<<What about ceramic, bioresource, industrial, biomed, environmental, and packaging?>>Actually, many are close enough to ME, CE, EE, and CM that I think you could get by without 'em.
<<Well, maybe just ceramic and biomed.>>I think materials and biomed would be better, myself.

Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:19:10 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Hmm. 1+1=3

ConFusion reins.

I want my CNET computer news NOW.

thespark.com should give me credit for being persisent in the IQ test.

Damn Sinus problems.

7=3-5

We are in a recession, right? I heard an ad talking about current 'low unemployment'. Hahaha.

Winterwolf, what are you doing letting cold air back into Arkansas? I am wearing a sweater because it is cold.

What are the reasons people are against bringing back the Raven's RP? Please, tell us all. Its conservative biasis (if that is the problem) can be fixed *glances at Doug and Kit* right? 2 rps in this room is a problem? Wake up folks if you believe that is the problem! Right now, BFTS RP is not even close to overwhelming the CR and neither was the Raven's RP. Together all the RP in this room was not close to overrunning the CR.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:08:56 PM
IP: max1-30.cwy.cei.net

Gside: No, I was the one who posted as Sideshow Bob. :) Yes, I know, that's even more disturbing. :)

Shadowrider: So long, farewell, ciao, and goodbye!!!
Kit
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:56:23 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.139.dlls.grid.net

Time to leave again for me again.

Sorry I've not been in the CR that much this time, but I had a lot to do...anyway, I'll probably be here again in a couple of weeks, and I promise I'll do better.

See you all soon!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:49:00 AM
IP: h213-18-120.mi2.albacom.net

*****Kyryn steps into the room.*****

Gunjack> If your ISP happens to be Iglobal (like Okami's and mine is at home), then they crashed over the weekend and haven't recovered yet. However, some of the problem in getting things back up may be due to the fact that they filed for Chapter 7 (liquidation) bankruptcy last week. *rolls eyes* Okami and I are going to be looking for a new ISP in the very near future.

Solomon> The offer is appreciated, but the coding problems were solved a while ago and there are members on staff now who can take care of it.

Later, All!

****Kyryn disappears.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:13:43 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

We decided to have a bit of fun, and see if we could pull this off.

But, after the room crashed, we took that as a sign that we needed to quit.

Personally, I blame Joxter for planting the idea in our heads in the first place. Right before he left, he wanted us to pretend to be him, so the fandom wouldn't forget him while he was off on Survivor 2 or whatever he's doing.

But that fell through, leaving us both bored, meeting twice a week, and with too much time on our hands.

Robby and I both promise not to do it again, and, as Co-Admins, have given each other a stern warning.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:05:01 AM
IP: 129.115.233.43

Multiple IPs- One from school, one from work, one from home, and another one from home when one server doesn't want to work or something. That explain it?

In all seriousness tho, Aaron and I *ARE* different people.

But people were always mistaking us for each other. Soooo...
Robby (And Aaron is in the room) - [MrNoying@aol.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:04:57 AM
IP: 129.115.236.8

Cold Slither!

Sadly, only Fire Storm got this right. I was tooling around on the web yesterday, and I found a site with some great G.I.Joe mp3 files.

The "Cold Slither" song comes from one of the campiest, but all time greatest G.I. Joe episodes EVER. Zartan and the Dreadnoks got together and formed a rock band, and used subliminal messages in their songs to recruit young people for Cobra. "Cold Slither" was the song that they sang.

And some super loyal Joe fan re-recorded the song for his website. Freakin' hysterical! ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:51:45 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

My ISP died. I've logged 47 hours of car travel in the last four days. My ISP was dead when I got home, so we had to break out the AOL disks. All the money for that new computer is evaporating.
But I have memories. Good memories. From Canada. Remind me to send a VERY nice note to Cadbury.

Christine: Weapon writeups? Like weapon stacks? And I was thinking about sending you an article about Operator weapons and tactics... ; )

I start that massive catchup post tomorrow. And, Gside? You posted John Barleycorn. That makes you a Rightous Dude.

*wanders off to try to find Mere, and maybe some more chocolate*

PS - It seems AOL won't let me post. isn't that LOVELY? Thanks to Lyn for posting this for me, and flaming, horrible death to DC for screwing my connection.

Gunjack "I WISH I was kissing a battery" Valentine (As channeled by Lynati) - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 03:02:13 AM
IP: 207.94.232.169

Well, I trimmed my facial hair for my interview. I miss it already.

Ravyn> <<we engineers are just taking over the CR, aren't we?>>: Just part of the overall plan.

Sev. Jr.> <<tell me that you remember Cold Slither>>: Sorry, but after a little research it rang a bell.

Warpmind> <<you're not evil>>: Are you so sure of that?
<<you try to have an armadillo sent across the Atlantic by mail>>: Who said mail? We're making grat advancements in ballistics. ICBA. Such a fun concept.
<<Focused ion blasts>>: Details, details. Just throw some salt water at the target.
<<one that is rather... hmmm... radioactive set into a very solid block of lead>>: Would that be neutron bomb radioactive, or fiestaware radioactive?

Yooper> <<Electricity and magnetism are fun, I just hate exams on 'em>>: Welcome to my world.
<<Now all we need is a ChemEng to round it out>>: What about ceramic, bioresource, industrial, biomed, environmental, and packaging? Well, maybe just ceramic and biomed.

Beth H.> <<anyone here know a good anime download website that doesn't use MySpace or Streamload or anything like that?>>: I think After 2000 Anime runs all on volunteered FTP servers. See http://a2000a.cjb.net/ Though I'm always on the lookout for new places to get my fix. Oh, and I've put up files I have one at a time for Fire Storm and Warpmind on request.

Solomon> <>: I think you're going to have to wait for the next recruitment drive.

Fire Storm> <<Someone PLEASE hurt DC alot!>>: Has he ever been pithed? Quite fun. You drive a spike up into his brain, keeping the rest of him alive, then do stuff they held the Nuremburg trials for. I just found out my father had previous experience with this in college.

Doug is actually Sideshow Bob? Disturbing.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 01:04:25 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

SJ: GI Joe, eh?
Fire Storm
Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:41:28 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Sure, Firestorm, I'll murder DC for you.

Right after I murder Bart Simpson. Muhahahahahaha
Sideshow Bob
Monday, April 16, 2001 10:56:16 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.130.dlls.grid.net

Someone PLEASE hurt DC alot!

My motherboard just got fried. Yes, the one I just got back from the shop.

I had better NOT have lost ANY data!
Fire Storm
Monday, April 16, 2001 08:56:20 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Sorry I post this here (again), but tgsfeedback seems to be still down.
I was offering myself to compose the HTML for TGS novels, as some time ago I read posts about how horrible the code was.
I can make compact and compatible code. And, via CSS, can make the text look pretty on modern browsers, and acceptable on older ones.

Solomon - [solomonv1@yahoo.com]
Palma, Spain
Monday, April 16, 2001 08:14:34 PM
IP: 62.42.63.5

*Leans in*

Warpmind: Oh, I think I can free up sometime over next weekend :) (Although, I don't think I'll be around the next couple days. :| )

Cold slither music...ummm...I think it needs...maybe...some explosion type sound effects going off in the background...? Naw, it's disturbing enough as it is...

*Wanders off, muttering about colds.*
Lynati Kshudra
Monday, April 16, 2001 07:11:15 PM
IP: 207.94.232.176

BTW, does anyone here know a good anime download website that doesn't use MySpace or Streamload or anything like that? I'm talking straight downloading from the website.
Beth H.
Monday, April 16, 2001 06:51:40 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Beth: <smiles> I say say yes. Enjoy the date. And don't worry about lacking the courage to express your feelings- it'll happen when the time is right. :)

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some issues to settle with Doug and Otto here about a certain possibly totaled car... <grabs Otto Mobile and shoves him out of the room>
Kit
Monday, April 16, 2001 06:33:11 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.102.dlls.grid.net

Doug>Well, David asked me if I'd like to go see "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" with him. I want to see that movie really badly an David will be a much wanted perk along with it. ^_^

GOD I LOVE SPRING BREAK!!!! :)
Beth H.
Monday, April 16, 2001 04:28:40 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Firestorm: Glad you remembered that pic. :)

Beth: Damn, you do want this guy. <grin> Good luck landing him- I recommend you keep spending as much time with him as you can, sit closer to him on every date and keep touching him (it'll inspire him to touch you back), and ignore those jerks who keep hooting about your romance.
Doug
Monday, April 16, 2001 02:52:33 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.33.dlls.grid.net

***Kyryn walks into the CR followed by a cute gremlin girl wearing a camo bikini and carrying a huge bazooka on her shoulder. The evil DC chooses this exact moment to wander back into the CR, having finally recovered from his last 'death.' Kyryn spots him. "There he is! Get him, Cypher!" The gremlin girl makes some minor adjustments to her bazooka and zeroes in on DC. "Give gremlins a bad name willya? I'll teach you!" She fires the bazooka with an earsplitting sound. A beam of energy fires through DC and continues through the wall of the CR. DC is sucked into the beam and vanishes in its wake. Cypher looks over at Kyryn, "That should take care of him for a while. It'll take him some time to come back from being discorporated over fix galaxies." She turns and steps out of the CR as Kyryn begins to post.****

That was for screwing up my ISP this weekend!

Warps> That game is very addictive! I'd been trying to avoid it since Okami has it on his machine at home. *shrugs* Ah well, something new to distract me from work!

Later, All!

****Kyryn flies out of the room.*****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, April 16, 2001 02:06:56 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

DPH>We will not be seeing XV-mon's or Stingmon's natural ultimates (or any of the other new digimon) this season.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, April 16, 2001 01:58:14 PM
IP: dial-274.ocis.net

**digimon**
Thanks for clearing that up. It seemed liked when Angiemon DNA-digivolved, the result was much weaker than MagnaAngiemon. When we will get around to seeing exVeemon and Stingmon's ulimate forms?
**end digimon**

Anyone heard anything about CNET news. I haven't received it in over 2 weeks.

1+1=-3

I have been playing Free Cell on my computer (on advice from a co-worker) and I was wondering if the claim was true that every game can be won. I have seen maybe 2 games that I did not see any solution to. I had to do things differently to beat one game.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, April 16, 2001 12:25:19 PM
IP: max1-33.cwy.cei.net

Yooper enters grumbling about his physics exam on Thursday.

Electricity and magnetism are fun, I just hate exams on 'em

Ravyn:>><<engineers taking over the CR>>Now all we need is a ChemEng to round it out.
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Monday, April 16, 2001 12:18:01 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

*Warpmind enters, carrying a large sign reading "Mea Maxima Culpa".* Happy now, Lain? I specifically TOLD you it was addictive!!! (I got her hooked on Clickomania... for eternal damnation, click my name link. There is no cure. All your base are belong to us.)

Fire Storm: So the sale is banned? Hmmm... Well, that just means I can under no circumstances make money in any manner there... at least not legally. };)

Christine: Actually, the story itself is a temporal paradox by nature, and there is very little blood involved whatsoever. And no keyboards of any kind. };) All I hope is that I can finish it before the deadline...

Josh: For explanation, watch Ranma 1/2, season 1, episodes 8 & 9. };)

Lynati: Huh? You mean you won't be online at all next weekend? Awww, and I'll have totally free online schedules then... *Blink* Please tell me you can get online upcoming weekend...

Gside: Actually, no, they wouldn't... but you honestly truly on't want the details. };) As for you wearing a bandanna, I suppose, but you're not evil, either. }:) And you try to have an armadillo sent across the Atlantic by mail! I'm tellin' ya, it's a complicated affair. (Monitors do not count. Focused ion blasts, amigo. It's a cannon thingie.) And I don't have any elven swords set into stone. I do, however, have one that is rather... hmmm... radioactive set into a very solid block of lead... Thanks, Grimtooth. }:)

SJ: Cold Slither? *Blink* Wazat? *Downloads* *Listens*
...
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WHAT the HEY??? Who is this gang, anyway? (Obviously, I have no clue as to their identities... quite likely more an issue of geography and Norwegian broadcasting picks than age...)

AAAAGH! Sudden terrifying thought... I remember Mara or Aaron mentioning they know everything the other knows... SOMEONE PLEASE PROVE THAT THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!! *Trembles in merciless fear*

Well, that's about it... Later, bunch.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, April 16, 2001 11:57:35 AM
IP: mp-216-47-204.daxnet.no

I had to work all weekend and I'm pooped! But today we're out of school and I plan to lay out in the sun and spoil myself ;) Good book, chocolate, the usual.
Josh> I think you have me confused with someone else darlin'. I didn't say that.
SOROW
Monday, April 16, 2001 11:15:11 AM
IP: a010-0182.dll2.splitrock.net

speaking of pokemon, this reminds me of a funny incident, I went into a Wizards of the coast store with a friend of mine and my friend bought some pokemon cards, so I asked the clerk if they played by show or game rules, when he asked what show rules were, I told him
Show rules: Pikachu beats anything
anywhoo, on to another true story, this Japanese restaraunt near me has the following dinner specials: Pokemon (for two) Picachu(for three) and this is the kicker folks, Digimon (for four) and if that ain't enough weirdness, I offer the following matchup: Pikachu vs. Ryo-Ohki
shogun raptor
Monday, April 16, 2001 11:11:29 AM
IP: mia-this01.firn.edu

Oh my god, this is the funniest thing I've heard in a long while....Damn, it brings back so many memories from my childhood, and the cartoons I watched. One cartoon in particular.

Click the link and tell me that you remember Cold Slither!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Monday, April 16, 2001 10:49:44 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

DPH: <Devimon> I havent watched in a while, but last I remember, the Emperor had captured him and used one of his arms to make his Chimeramon. (Which by the way was a stupid storyline - some whirlpool of evil that contained a horrible, terrible darkness, and I'm thinking, "Cool, maybe it's Piedmon or my favorite villain, Myotismon," and instead it's Devimon? And everyone's like terrified, and I'm thinking, "God, they kicked his rear end way back when. They beat guys who were stronger than FIVE Devimons, and they're intimidated by this clown?")
I think most unevolved Pokemon like Charmander could beat most unevolved Digimon like Agumon (although Gatomon could take Meowth easy), while most evolved Digimon could beat evolved Pokemon. They're just so big! I gotta figure Greymon is two-three times bigger than Charizard. And as powerful as Gyarados is, he's no match for MegaSeadramon. On the other hand, I'd take Moltres over Birdramon. One matchup I'd like to see - Wizardmon (my favorite non-Destined Digimon) vs. Alakazam.

Josh: <pokemon as bane of all good and pure> Perhaps you're right. After all, I think the cutest Pokemon are Haunter, Muk, and most of all Ekans and Koffing (and I'm not being sarcastic, I really do love Team Rocket's Pokemon, so what does that say about me?).

I started watching the new Horatio Hornblower movie Saturday night. Boy, that David Warner always plays such great antagonists, and in this he is _mean_.

Sincerely, Allaine (new Buffy in less than 48 hours!)
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Monday, April 16, 2001 09:52:49 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

And I'm the ME...wow, we engineers are just taking over the CR, aren't we? ;)

Then again, so are you Michigan folks...;) Welcome, Yooper. :)
Ravyn
Monday, April 16, 2001 02:21:51 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Chistos vuscres. Or however it's romanized.

Imzadi> <<No better place to die than in the saddle>>: We're gonna ride forever, you can't keep horsemen in a cage. Should the angels call, well it's only then I might pull in the reigns.
<<Promise?>>: Hey!
<<That assumes that>>: The secret to physics (and maybe some engineering) is aproximations. Ergo, we and the earth are all spheres, and any distance changes are insignificant in relation to the total distance.

Warmpind: <<a sack of feathers, and wheeling around a cage containing 200 frisky kittens>>: Would those be duck feathers and purple kittens?
<<shouldn't you be wearing a bandanna?>>: I am, but that's not the point. And I never thought of him as evil.
<<252243/17j. I think they still haven't figured out where I got the armadillo>>: Even with all your Texas contacts?
<<Or the ion emitter>>: Don't monitors count?
<<do not touch any swords that are set into rocks>>: What if it's an elven sword that glows blue at danger? Those are always useful.

Fire Storm> <<Why not?>>: Fear of contamination.
<<She is quite bouncy in all aspects, isn't she?>>: Yea verily.
<<Trying to make stuff safer>>: No, just making sure it does what I want when I want.
<<Largo probally wouldn't understand Boo even if he spoke english>>: I said listen, not understand.
<<What ideas did you have, anyway?>>: I'm not quite sure myself, but I think I've been reading too many Ranma/Ranko lemons. That, and there's Secret Agent's entry in the July MAH (Monthly Anime Hentai) (which is remarkably similar to the second half of Hot Tails 3).
<<Alien technology. And chewing gum. And duct tape>>: Mostly duct tape.

Imzadi> <<Huh?>>: Watch Ranma, pay attention to the eternally lost boy.
<>: Lain's been here.

Yooper> <<At first I thought you were a EE>>: That'd be me.

For the heck of it, the new mp3 is John Barleycorn Must Die by Traffic.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, April 16, 2001 02:16:47 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Forgot something.

DPH>Those friends of Gennai are in fact essentially clones of him.
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, April 16, 2001 02:09:18 AM
IP: dial-244.ocis.net

*Lynati ducks in*

Not much new. Just thought I'd stop in. Still working on my happy-fun lineage meaning projects tra-la-la.
I just found out that they kickus out at 9am friday morning instead of saturday at noon, when our school closes.
*sigh*

*Lynati Exits*
Lynati Kshudra
Monday, April 16, 2001 01:24:08 AM
IP: 207.94.232.241

****Delurks****

Greetings everyone.

I have recently found a cooperative education position in Williams Lake, BC which is about 3 hours from Kamloops and I will be moving there by the end of the month. I will be doing database work and VB applications for a small company there. I have just finished my third year of a Comp. Sci. major and mathematics minor here at The University College of the Cariboo and if I complete three work terms (12 months total) I will graduate with coop distinction on my degree.

****Digimon related*****
DPH>I must assume that you have only seen the dub and/or information related to the dub. Hopefully this will clear up some things for you. The second season actually takes place 3 years after the first, Saban's dub being very inconsistant on this detail. First, armor digivolving always produces a champion, generally with below average attacks ut stronger defense. Some armors, such as Magnamon, are as strong as ultimates, but are still considered champions. DNA digivolved ultimates are generally as strong or stronger than both digimon's natural ultimates combined. Thus Shakkoumon is stronger than Magnaangemon. None of Leomon, Ogremon, or Devimon will return this season. I assume by Zolomon you mean Azulongmon, the huge, clear dragon, and yes he is as strong or stronger than Apocalymon. As for the fights, any ultimate or higher level digimon beats any pokemon (with exception of Mew/Mewtwo) and so do most champions. A rookie will not win against a fully evolved pokemon but will do well against the lower evolutions.

Josh><Digimon is the bane of all that is good and pure, as are all pokemon and pokemon by-products. I'll have to insist that you stop bringing them up, lest I am forced to tar and feather you.> Tough ;)
****End Digimon related****
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Monday, April 16, 2001 12:36:44 AM
IP: dial-244.ocis.net

Now Garlon is one sexy character :)
Hey everyone I haven't been here in a long while, Then I went by real name Lawrence but I decide to not to use it anymore! Probably most of you don't remember me but maybe a few. This may not be a say but come back once in awhile.
This season of the main cycle was short but atleast we got some 12 storys, good job TGS!
For some reason I'm happy maybe its cause I just turned 18 on the 13th, or the new episode of Queer As Folk, or just stoping by again :)
Well that is it for now
bye!
Sexy Queer - [craft_celtic@yahoo.com]
Ohio
Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:47:47 PM
IP: chil-vdsl-nrp-1.bright.net

Fire Storm:>>Yeah, I am from da U.P. How'd ya guess? :-) I haven't met any other people from Michigan online, mostly since I have trouble remembering to check forums on a daily basis. I have a dayplanner to help me remember things, but I forget to use it.

Imzadi:>>You're a fellow CE? At first I thought you were a EE. Programming a hobby of yours, or do you have a class in it?
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:21:00 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Holy Sh!t.....I don't know about rock, but Punk is Dead.

Joey Ramon, R.I.P.
Sevarius Jr. - [bpoole@excite.com]
Sunday, April 15, 2001 09:35:04 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Daphne>Yes! Cheers! *clinks her own soda can with Daphne's* ^_^

Now if I can just ask David if he cares about me the same way I care about him, it be bliss! :)
Beth H.
Sunday, April 15, 2001 08:55:08 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Coyote the bando>> <The version she's referring to is by Great Big Sea> excellent! [proceeds to download]

kit, doug, DPH, anyone I missed>> thanks for the B-day/prom grats.

Josh>> <Ed McMahon dropped by the CR with huge checks for all of us, but you weren't here so you didn't get one>
darn! and after all the "star search" I watched as a little kid...
<My question was "how do you MiST a piece of fruit!?>
ah. spray bottle.

DPH>> <digimon> my question is, if digimon are creatures amde of data, and everything in the digital world *is* made of data, than when the digidestined go to the digital world, aren't they digimon and therefore have the power to digivolve? if they could discover said power... well, that would defeat the purpose of the show. nevermind.

Beth>> hey, fellow Liz-user! a toast to David and Mike! [raises a can of Coke CLassic]

happiness!

Daphne - [suburbanbubble@hotmail.com]
the suburban bubble
Sunday, April 15, 2001 08:43:35 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.194.73.philadelphia1.level3.net

Woke up bright and early at 2PM today after going to sleep at 5AM last "night". Should have a full day of programming, writing, and scheduling before school tomorrow (ugh, again!?).

In the wee hours of last night, while watching Titan A.E. (which RULED, I might add), I used a new SCSI cable to move my data off my computer onto my roommates, at which point I partitioned my HD into two partitions, appropriately named Xanatos (with an icon of David) and either Renard or Fox (guess what THAT icon will be?). Lets see if OS X runs better on its own partition. Currently, I don't have a Fox 32x32 icon, so my second partition is Oberon, and I have three drives on my computer: Goliath, Xanatos, and Oberon. Having each of the three races rules.

In other news: I have decided almost conclusively that my Titanium Powerbook will be named Titania. Not only does it keep with my gargoyles theme, but it has "Ti" in it (so it goes with Titanium) AND its really the only character on the show that has a body as beautiful as the laptop (aside from Demona, but that's my PSL drive, for obvious reasons).

Any REALLY good artists out there wanna supply artwork for a beautiful Titania icon? Inquire within (by clicking on my email address).

Other icon stuff: still looking for artwork of canon characters. Let me know if you're interested. Hey, and anyone in here with instant messenger really good in the windows environment and know how to work with .ico files? I need a sucker, um, I mean, Beta Tester for windows icons.

****Titan A.E. Spoilers******
I liked this movie. Its nice seeing the human race get the sh!t kicked out of it like we so rightfully deserve. The Drej were really cool enemies, with the whole "made of energy" thing combined with the whole "Independence Day bad alien" thing. It worked. The resolution of using their energy was just a little too perfect, but I guess it worked.

Adeema (or whatever the love interest's name was) was the perfect woman. Clean, beautiful, smart, and completely unable to show up the main character. To say she exceeded believability would be the understatement of the millenium (the new one). Hey FS, if you have trouble making a gargoyle LD, could you just make one of her instead?

I loved that he actually called New Earth "Planet Bob"! That was hysterical.

The Titan ship was also cool, though the whole sequence where it created a world would have been, well, physically impossible given the time frame. Sorry, but that stuff takes millions of years, not 25 seconds.
******End Titan A.E. Spoilers*****

Warpmind: <<bandanna>>: Huh?

Kit: <>: Bah. You're no fun.

FS: cute picture of Doug in disguise. <<what about HER satisfaction?>>: What about it? Pretty irrelevant if you ask me...Oh, the ALD? Ah, pretty irrelevant there too... hehe <<Your gonna not want the chocolate dispenser either?>>: Can you just make her taste like chocolate? <<But I don't want to tonight!>>: I forbid DLD to be able to say such a thing. <<enough that she doesn't annoy you with her idiotic functions>>: And that would be different from the real thing HOW? <<Alien technology. And chewing gum. And duct tape.>>: Awesome. You are a true engineer, for you can do anything with Duct Tape (yes, it should ALWAYS be capitalized). <>: ::looks around:: I haven't seen an admin in weeks...

Christine: <<end of May>>: Awesome. I'll have something for you by then, definitely.

DPH: Digimon is the bane of all that is good and pure, as are all pokemon and pokemon by-products. I'll have to insist that you stop bringing them up, lest I am forced to tar and feather you. <<programs on the computer>>: Sounds awesome.

Beth: <<David>>: Glad you're happy. Its rare to find someone with all those qualities. Best of luck.

Rayvn: See ya at Gathering!

Arianna: <<second flute>>: Was that YOU?

Okay, that's all for now. Finished doing my schedule for next semester, I hope. Now time to PROGRAM!

Alpha Velveeta Knuckle Underwear
- Dead Meat, Hot Shots!

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, April 15, 2001 08:23:42 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-232.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Hey everybody! I missed a few days in there...finally I had my Easter Break (all one day of it...)...so I was sleeping for about the last three days. :)
So here comes the catch up work...

Sorow> << I'm afraid you missed all the good stuff. But I'm going to UT Austin next year and this is my last week of drill team! Yes! >> Yay! I'm so happy for you...college is great, you'll love it!!!!

Imzadi> <<Once, I thought a flute-player was okay, but only because I wanted to sleep with her. >> Once again a familiar story...funny how my guitar playing friends always went for the second flute when I was in high school...

The whole identity thing.....wow. Yeah, I'm me. That's just about the only person floating around the CR under my control....

Well, must run...too much to do considering I just got back from Easter Break...talk to you all later!
Ari

Lady Arianna - [lady_arianna@hotmail.com]
Winston Salem, NC, USA
Sunday, April 15, 2001 08:02:22 PM
IP: hurlmk0.computer.wfu.edu

**Ravyn comes skipping through the CR, passing out Easter candy for everyone who wants some.** Happy Easter, everyone! :)

Coyote> You poor dear! Dang it, I leave for the weekend, and your work gets all sucky (well, even more so than usual, I guess...) ;) I'm so sorry! **hugs tight** But I'm back now! Hope to talk with you later. ;) And I'm sorry you were kinda lonely while I was gone...so for one time only, I will use a lovey-dovey name, ala Doug & Kit. ;) **huggles**

Multiple Identities> Wow. ;)

SJ> Forgot to say it earlier, but right on with the marriage rant. ;)

Gathering 2001> Big announcement, everyone! Sit down if you're standing...since there's a very good chance I'm heading to the Gathering this year! It hasn't been made official yet, but I hope it will be within a few days...but the Ravyn just may be making an appearance at the Gathering! Prepare yourselves! ;)

**Rav hugs Coyote again, then sits down at the Tea Table with him to gab for a while.** :)
Coyote's Ravyn - ["Cowboy Cadillac" ;)]
Sunday, April 15, 2001 05:28:57 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Doug//Kit: Like there is any proof that I COULD have that you two are one person!

Besides... I've seen your pic of Kit at G98!

'Twas just a joke anyway.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, April 15, 2001 05:11:14 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*enters*

I had fun with David yesterday. ^_^ We spend 7 1/2 hours together! ^_^ We watched anime, my video of the play, "Into the Woods", we went downtown and got chinese, we had a lot of fun talking about anime, other cultures, what we plan to do with our lives, and lots of fun stuff. ^_^

A part of me was just picturing one of our friends from school discovering us. I'm not secretive amongst my friends that I like Davis a lot, but maybe I should. Two of my friends, Jesse and Stephen, can be total dicks sometimes. They love bugging people (especially Jesse). When they found out that I liked David, they teased me about it to no end. Whenever David and I talk between classes, they come up and start doing things like saying, "Ah, isn't young love beatiful?" or "Spring is in the air! And the birds are 'doing it' with the bees!". And they won't leave either of us alone! David can't escape them, because he works with them in film class. He's the co-director of the group. And I can't escape them because we're in the same clubs and I'm in the same physics class with Stephen! >.<

I really like David!!! He's sweet, considerate, handsome, kind, smart, an anime freak (though has so much to learn of the ways of the anime), and he's been accepted to a lot of good colleges!

Oh yeah. I want this boy. I want him _bad_. ^_^
Beth H.
Sunday, April 15, 2001 03:31:24 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Happy belated birthday to Dapne. Somehow, I did not quite get around to saying it.

**DIGIMON**
hmm. I think I am starting to figure some things out. Those friends of Genai (spelling?) were the original digi-destined. Think about it: compare the ages of new group to the ages of the old group. 4 years. Compare the ages of the old group to Genai's friends: looks about 4 years. Armor-digivolving produces a champion so why not armor digivolve again to produce an ultimate? DNA digivolving produces a weaker ultimate. So far I have not seen the return of either Leomon or Orgemon. What about Devimon? I saw him return and then disappear again. Why do I get the feeling that Zolomon (spelling?) are somewhere very close to the strength level of Apolocymon (spelling?)?
**END DIGIMON**

Oh yea, who would win in the following fights between Digimon and Pokemon:
Agumon vs Charmander
Flamedramon vs Charmaleon
Greymon vs Charazar
Seadromon vs Garados
MegaSeadromon vs Garados
Any other digimon vs a similiar pokemon

Wow! I can't believe how long this post is so far.

List of software to be installed on my new PC when it comes in:
Netscape 4.7
Visual Studio & help files
Yahoo Messenger
Pegasus Email
MS Office 97
Gladiator (a game)
Perl (programming language)
ICQ

that's all for now.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, April 15, 2001 02:51:37 PM
IP: max1-72.cwy.cei.net

Happy Easter to those who celebrate this particular pagan fertility rite overtaken and subsumed into other faiths ; ) First Sunday after the first full moon of Spring. Peeps galore! Becca and I even joined the Peeps Fan Club; her t-shirt and poster and newsletter should be arriving shortly. As for Peep-demises, I have microwaved them, toasted them over the bbq, melted them in hot cocoa, had a Peep-stretching contest (how far can it go without breaking), squished them flat, and of course just plain bit them in two. I think they're at their best when they are just a day or two old, nicely chewy. Interestingly, the last package we got was a mis-peep, since they had somehow gone down the assembly line upside-down and their eyes were on their rumps.

Stephen > good to see you're back online! I authorized your ICQ. Looking forward to the submissions!

Doug > yeah, _that_ song, with the long tails and ears for hats. Hey, anyone ever catch the old black and white serial cliffhanger show "Perils of the Darkest Jungle"? Otherwise known as "The Tiger Woman"? LOL, what a hoot, we taped a marathon of it a while back.

Kyryn > research, yup, ain't it fun? That stuff about mouth structures is one I've run into before in gaming. Hard for humans to learn dragon-speech because their mouths are just all the wrong shape ; )

Patrick > ah, but at least your alias is _very_ well-known; mine lingers in utter obscurity as far as I know ; )

Warpmind > ooh, Blood on the Keyboard! Like those driver's ed films, except to warn teens about the perils of typing fast! Can't wait to see it!

Imzadi > the next Avalon Mists isn't until June, so anytime before the end of May is fine.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, April 15, 2001 02:33:45 PM
IP: 24-206.075.popsite.net

Very funny Firestorm.
Doug & Kit
Sunday, April 15, 2001 01:18:40 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.229.dlls.grid.net

Daniel Johnson: <I'm not even going to touch the rest of FS's post>
Aww... Why not? ;)

Doug//Kit: <I'd be very interested in seeing those photos you mentioned, if they are what you implied>
I am supprised at the ammount of attention this has gotten!
There is no way that I can confrim nor deny that Doug and Kit are one person.
I just wanted to see Todd's head explode!
But if you really, REALLY want to see my photographic proof, click my link! It's Doug in a disguise!

But really, I just said it to make Todd's head explode. I have *NO* proof.

Gside: <Even super happy fun ball, though it isn't recommended>
And make sure you don't open it!

Very true. She is quite bouncy in all aspects, isn't she?

You people and your 'safteys' Trying to make stuff safer! BAH!
<I'm rather certain customer satisfaction would increase>
But what about HER satisfaction?
<He's doing his best, Largo just isn't listening to waht he's saying>
Largo probally wouldn't understand Boo even if he spoke english!
<The idea of the contents of those picytures is quite disturbing.>
Hmm... NO! NO! I must NOT do it! NO! BAD Photoshop! NO! I will NOT listen to you...
What ideas did you have, anyway?

Yooper: <Hi! I think you gave me a welcome last time I posted, too>
Probally! Heck, if you said you were from Michigan, I probally did say welcome.
We don't run across too many people from Michigan on-line.
Let me guess... your from the UP, right?

Imzadi: <Indeed, and draws GREAT gargesses in Bikini's!>
She DOES draw very well, dosn't she? Probally one of the top artists in the fandom.
<Absolutely NOT>
What's next? Your gonna not want the chocolate dispenser either?
<Can we make that the first sentence the DLD learns?>
I was thinking more along the lines of "I will not kill anyone" or "But I don't want to tonight!" ;)
<How much does maintenance on a DLD cost? Do I have to bring her to you, or will any auto shop do?>
Well, the non-biological one would hopefully be able to fix herself, but any major repairs you could probally do. I REALLY don't think that the people at the shop would fully understand it if you wanted them to fix your sex doll.
The biological one, on the other hand, would probally need to come to me. (The only biological parts would be what you see. Everything under the skin would be aircraft aluminum)
<Whoa there. There shouldn't be anything intelligent about her. This is a love slave we're talking about. I should do her thinking for her>
I know, I know. BUT she should be able to at least PARTIALLY think for herself. I mean, if she is damaged she should be able to call for help without you telling her. Same with hunger (for the Bio model). I am not saying that she will be a fully sentient AI, but enough that she doesn't annoy you with her idiotic functions.
:You: "DAMNIT! Put your arm out! You are on fire!" or "Why didn't you clean up that oil spill in the kitchen?" :Her: "You didn't tell me to."
<Then why'd you mention giving the DLD H4><0R skillz?>
I was attempting to make a joke.
<And how did you acquire said photos?>
Alien technology. And chewing gum. And duct tape.
<Most of it is directed at a personal project for me anyway.>
A project that I am surprised we are able to still talk about in here.

Warpmind: <Whoa, whoa, whoa... sex toys are banned in Texas? Damn, then I can't even set foot in that state...>
If I understand the law correctly, sex toys themselves are not banned, just purchasing them.
Fire Storm - [<--- Photographic Evidence!!!]
Sunday, April 15, 2001 01:16:31 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Imzadi: I very much doubt they'll have Ari become a super-slut in TGS. S&P, you know? :) Besides, no matter what their personalities turn out like, they will be cute, and to people with meaningless crushes, that's what counts. Now can we please drop the subject?

Happy Easter, everyone!!! <gets on a bunny suit and hops through the CR hiding eggs>
Kit
Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:28:34 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.84.dlls.grid.net

*Warpmind enters, carrying a jar of syrup, a sack of feathers, and wheeling around a cage containing 200 frisky kittens. Spotting DC, he drags the immortal into another room and closes the door. Much screaming ensues. Afterwards, Warpmind whistles a merry tune as he returns to the regular CR.*
You guys don't want the details. };)

Whoa... I haven't posted since Tuesday? Eeep...

Allaine: Please accept my profound apologies, and a minor correction of my statement: Mark Hammill is burnt-out as a HERO character. He's excellent for crazy and half-crazy villains, but he can't do good guys anymore. (Examples, "Watchers Reborn" vs. "Hamilton" - you'll see what I mean...)

Josh: You claim to be an evil pig? Well... you won't hear me arguing... but shouldn't you be wearing a bandanna? };)

Gside: Worse we may have done. Ah, I remember the days of my youth when I violated rule 252243/17j. I think they still haven't figured out where I got the armadillo. Or the ion emitter. (And they said that rule was practically unbreakable...) };)

Beth: Hmh... I'd like to bring to your attention that, on the bright side, Mr. White just might Darwinize himself soon - I can see it... insulting a guy with a a short fuse and a load of muscle. };) As for marrying young... well... I can't say I'm opposed to the concept... *Blissful smile* After all, sometimes, everyone NEEDS someone to come home to after a long dreary day... a spouse ain't the worst deal, then... (Of course, make no mistake - children should wait another few years, at the very least...)

Fire Storm: I never claimed to be a computer deity. I can make my way around one, most of the time, but give me a piece of raw, uncompiled code, and I'm hopelessly lost. ;)

Lain: So you love thunderstorms. Excellent. I quite like them, too. (Helps me power the devious machinations in my subterranean dungeon... hint: do not touch any swords that are set into rocks.) };)

Aaron: Well, I see two options... the first of which is really up to Lynati, the other... well... are you and Mara sure you're ready for such a big decision? If so, you've GOT to e-mail me the details, so I can get the prerequisite paperwork done first. (Such as ordering the necessary forms'n'stuff...)

Christine: Working on an action story already! My fingers are bleeding all over the keyboard! (Well, almost...)

Whoa... Robby and Aaron are the same? Interesting... My friend, you truly have a twisted humor. Truly, you are worthy of having your name inscribed in duplicate in the Tricksters' Hall Of Fame. }:)

Fire Storm: Whoa, whoa, whoa... sex toys are banned in Texas? Damn, then I can't even set foot in that state... };)

*Gaaaasp* And that pretty much covers last week without too much detail... Weirdly enough. Later, gotta go play "Robin Hood - Conquests of the Longbow" again, after Lain inspired me to find it again... *Evil Grin* To find that Sierra classic, click my name.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, April 15, 2001 09:14:49 AM
IP: mp-217-208-229.daxnet.no

Okay I just got back from seeing Disturbed, Mudvayne, Spineshank, and NothingFace. Disturbed was FSCKING AMAZING!!!! Mudvayne is the lamest wanna-be hardcore band that some pathetic record company with a focus group could ever assemble. Anyone who likes them should be ashamed of themselves. NothingFace was alright, Spineshank was pretty damn good. There were a lot of chicks there that were suffering from "FSCKING HOT SYNDROME"!

In short, the concert ruled.

Yooper: <>: You too? Awesome.

Todd: <<go to bed fairly early at night>>: What's wrong with you?! How can you go to bed so early? Don't you date n' stuff?

Identity Crises in CR: Quite frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn. If ya'll suffer from MPD that's your problem(s?). Having all of your personalities post in here certainly makes for an interesting CR, though. I have only one personality living in my head, and he's too damn egotistical to allow another to even show up, let alone take control for brief periods of time.

FS: <<She writes good adult stuff!>>: Indeed, and draws GREAT gargesses in Bikini's! (see TGS icons pic!) <<Make the best time your last!>>: No better place to die than in the saddle... <<Lawn Sprinkler attatchment>>: Absolutely NOT. <<What ever you want!>>: Can we make that the first sentence the DLD learns? <<she MAY be able to be claimed as a dependant>>: How much does maintenance on a DLD cost? Do I have to bring her to you, or will any auto shop do? <<What should be the legal standing of AI's?>>: Whoa there. There shouldn't be anything intelligent about her. This is a love slave we're talking about. I should do her thinking for her. <>: Then why'd you mention giving the DLD H4><0R skillz? <<people may start to think wierd thoughts>>: WAY TOO LATE <>: And how did you acquire said photos?

SJ: <<maybe you understood all this and I'm wasting my breath saying all this>>: But wouldn't at least ONE of your personalities know what Todd knows (besides the Todd personality)?

Daniel Johnson: <<take out a large chunk of the East Coast>>: Promise? <<not even going to touch the rest of FS's post>>: Most of it is directed at a personal project for me anyway. <<OS X>>: Argh, to say the least. Supposedly, WaveLAN X drivers should be available on May 1, at which point I would be able to switch to X completely if and ONLY if there are also drivers for my external HD, which MAY be on the 10.0.1 update (we'll have to see when either my roommate or myself successfully installs said update). You are, in fact, DAMN LUCKY that it works well on two machines. But today I'll repartition my drive and maybe try to un-fsck my hard drive and actually dual-boot correctly until all the drivers I need come out. In the mean time, would you like to be the FIRST beta-tester of my new gargoyles icons for OS X? There are about 50 of them, and they're yours if you're interested.

Daphne: <<did anything significant happen>>: Yes, Ed McMahon dropped by the CR with huge checks for all of us, but you weren't here so you didn't get one. Sorry. Maybe he'll do it again at Gathering. I wouldn't hold my breath, though, you've got a better chance of being struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark than winning one of those things once, let alone twice. <<"real" date>>: CONGRATS! Good to hear there's people in here dating, since all us geeks aren't, except for the ones that are already, um, attached. <<presumably the same way you MiST any fanfic>>: You didn't understand my question. My question was "how do you MiST a piece of fruit!?

Doug: <<Our crushes are on the mature adult gargs they'll grow into>>: That's rediculous. You have NO idea what kind of gargs they'll grow up into. Graeme may not live to see puberty and Ari may become a turbo-slut. In fact, that whole "Graeme needs to live to do what he has to do" sounds pretty ominous to me. I'm betting he's gonna die doing whatever it is.

Gside: <<MiSTing lemons>>: OH! Now I get it. <<don't you just need f=GMm/r^2>>: That assumes that a) we are spheres (maybe you're that fat, but I'm a stick, thank you very much), b) the earth is a sphere (it's not), and c) the distance between the two is constant (it's not). <<In context helps>>: Bullsh!t.

Icon project: Everyone click on my name and see the new Angela icon (Angela2128). Then congratulate Lynati on her amazing work and tell her that she fscking rules! Cuz she does! Another thanks to Lyn and Dreamie for their work for the project. Hey Christine...when's that deadline?

Yankee Doodle Floppy Disk
- Lt. Commander Block, Hot Shots!

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, April 15, 2001 04:55:49 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-252.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Gyeh. that looks so...pink. Remind me to check the color in the color-checking window next time. Sorry for the second post.
Lynati Kshudra
Sunday, April 15, 2001 03:08:54 AM
IP: 207.94.232.47

*Lynati Enters*

Heyla, all.
The previous week's posts are hiding from me, so's I can't catch up. I got everything organized that I needed to, though, so that is good. I should be able to return to posting regularly now.
We started our third- and last- intensive class this week in Foundations, and it requires actually thinking about something OTHER than my Stories...which should be a new experience. Hmph. That reminds me; I still have two more pages to write in our assigned journal before I's can go to sleep this morning. Later for me.

*Slips off through the fabric gate*
Lynati Kshudra
Sunday, April 15, 2001 03:06:26 AM
IP: 207.94.232.47

I'll try this picture.

Gside:>>Yeah, you did. I just had to say it, especially since I was up until 1am because some idiot programmer didn't know it. It was a rant.

Fire Storm:>>Hi! I think you gave me a welcome last time I posted, too :-) I have lurked off and on for a long time, but posted only once or twice, but it was probably a year ago. I never did get too involved because I would forget to check the CR for such long stretches of time that I missed most of a lot of debates.

See everyone later!
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Sunday, April 15, 2001 02:32:29 AM
IP: mqt2-pm3-63.dial.up.net

Winterwolf> <<How much of last week is gone?>>: If my last reload before the wipe was accurate, one shortish post dealing with Aaron.

Niamhgold> <>: Extra congratulations fot getting the Answer.
<>: That's freaky. And I would like to claim that I don't have enough creativity for that.
<>: It's not that hard. Just drop a couple wangs, make oblique hentai references, and maybe say something engineeringlike.

Imzadi> <<how exactly does one MiST a lemon?>>: First you find a really bad lemon (defined here as a piece of hentai semiliterature/fanfic), then you taunt it.
<<Is that a functional pick-up line?>>: Song title. I have a sax part sitting in my case somewhere.
<<I'm still baffled as to how one can MiST a piece of fruit>>: You can taunt anything if you try. Even super happy fun ball, though it isn't recommended.
<<Speak for yourself>>: I do.
<<When was the last time you actually PERFORMED that integral>>: A couple years or so ago. THough don't you just need f=GMm/r^2?
<<Is there another way we should examine it?>>: In context helps every once in a while.

Yopper> <<Pounds are FORCE>>: I thought I already covered that.

Fire Storm> <<thems good eatin's>>: All you need is a couple flesh golems to share with, and you have a party.
<<If you take THAT our of context>>: I thought it was also supposed to be bad in context.
<<And a special treat for the ladies>>: I reccommend you have a safety for that particular feature.
<<do I HAVE to?>>: I'm rather certain customer satisfaction would increase.
<>: He's doing his best, Largo just isn't listening to waht he's saying.
<<And I have the photos to prove it!>>: The idea of the contents of those picytures is quite disturbing.

Shadowrider> <<since here it is already Sunday>>: Pizzagaina for everyone.

Niamhgold> <<wish I could say I was somebody else in this room>>: But you already did.

Patrick Toman> <<the most mysterious substance known to modern science: the marshmallow Peep>>: Cool things to do to peeps: Put them in a vacuum (lack of air, not cleaning device) then break the vacuum. THey grow huge then collapse.

Daniel Johnson> <>: And since you have a towel, they think you have everything else you need, and will let you have anything you might be lacking at the moment.

Mp3 when I get back to my own computer.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, April 15, 2001 01:25:26 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Daphne: Belated congrats from me also on becoming legal. Sorry I missed the post last week. :( Congrats on enjoying your prom too, and on the good guy in your life.

Allegations: Doug said it, I'll second it. He and I are not one and the same. We never have been, and we never will be. Soulmates we are, intended life-partners we are, living together we are, best guy-and-girl friends we are. We do many many things together, we're very close, some say we often think on the same wavelength. But we are not the same person. 'Kay?
Kit
Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:04:45 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.146.dlls.grid.net

Daphne: <singing voices> Ok, I thought it was the other way around. Thank you. Guess Rachael is alto, then. :) Belated congrats on turning 18 and on the great prom.

Shadowrider: Yep, we're back. Enough said. :) Congrats on your first car.

Allegations: Firestorm, I'd be very interested in seeing those photos you mentioned, if they are what you implied. Kit would be interested in seeing them also. I'll say it now, and I'll say it once only- she and I are _not_ the same person. Yeah, we're a lot alike, and it's not just the result of living together nearly four years and planning to get married in fifteen more months, but we are not the same person. Need I make it any more clear than that? <hopes Todd's and Daniel Johnson's heads won't blow up now>

Imzadi: Our crushes are on the mature adult gargs they'll grow into. Besides, I thought they were twelve to fourteen, not nine. <shrugs> Whatever.

Lady Mystic: Glad you saved last week.

SJ: Wow, that's a lot of multiple personalities. :) If you're really GB, nice subterfuge with the letter Kit and I got from him last week.

Saw the District episode I missed on rerun tonight. Life is good. :)
Doug
Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:01:56 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.146.dlls.grid.net

I disagree with 'Daniel Johnson'. 'Daniel Johnson' and I are the same person. We just have our disagreements to fool people. That and the fact we know to make things look like we are posting from different locations fool most people.

Robby & Aaron - Hmm. no way to prove or disprove the claim.

I bought a new PC today. a new Gateway. The salesman said a full tower would cost $$$$$ more than what I was willing to spend. I'll give the complete specs when it arrives in 5-7 days.

Haha. Darn, I missed top 10. Oh well.

1+1=3
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:40:49 PM
IP: max1-34.cwy.cei.net

Daphne: The version she's referring to is by Great Big Sea, and is on the Gathering 1999 CD collection, actually ... preceded by the climax of "Hunter's Moon III."

And she's right, it *is* faaaaast ... best guesstimate is that they sing it in under two minutes. Also sounds kinda country-fied as well ... it's pretty neat. I know I can keep up with REM, but I can't keep up with GBS. :)
Coyote the Bando
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:36:05 PM
IP: 216.28.101.132

[mildly annoyed, blaming no one] the previous week function isn't working. [notices that it's been said] oh well. did anything signicant happen sice I was last heard from? [notices address of last weeks CR] nevermind.

Confession: I am only me (and occasionally Anonymous when I screw up and forget to fill out the ID cells) but I'm pretty easy to identify in those situations). Daphne isn't my real name, but that's not relevant. trying a new image so Beth can monopolize Liz :)

So, what have I been up to... enjoying being legal (I blurbed that in my massive anonymous post that no one ever responded to...). went to Mike's prom, had a great time, we had a "real" date yesterday :) . virtually no school this past week, and none on monday either!!

Doug >> <I'm not very up on types of singing voices> soprano is high female. ALto is low female.

Lain>> <WE GAVE YOU THE FASTEST VERSION OF "its the end of the world as we know it (and i feel fine)" KNOWN TO MAN!!!> at risk of sounding totally ignorant and embarassing my fellow americans, who did that version? I'm trying to get the MP3.

DPH >> <How many people out yonder have Good Friday off? >
[wildly raises hand] one of the perks of Catholic SChool.

Josh>> <how exactly does one MiST a lemon? > presumably the same way you MiST any fanfic. tradtitionally, you use the characters from MST3K (although I've read some good ones using the Space Ghost characters). YOu have a copy of the fic (with permission, of course), then use your characters of choice to "riff" it. when done well, it's *hilarious*.

Patrick Toman>> <Easter> awesome quote. I'm using it! you'll get credit.

that's about all.

Happy holiday of choice!

Daphne - [suburbanbubble@hotmail.com]
the suburban bubble
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:24:00 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.212.227.philadelphia1.level3.net

Sorry I post this here, but tgsfeedback seems to have gone down.
I was offering myself to compose the HTML for TGS novels, as some time ago i read posts about how horrible the code was.
I can make compact and compatible code. And, via CSS, can make the text look pretty on modern browsers, and acceptable on older ones.
Solomon - [solomonv1@yahoo.com]
Palma, --, Spain
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:15:23 PM
IP: va1-b-cache.ono.com

PATRICK - LOL at the Carlin-ism.

Is it just me, or is the "multiple identity" business really beginning to get out of hand around here?

SEVARIUS JR. - Ah, so that's what the guy really meant by "mutant slayers". Truth to tell, I'd considered both possibilities - that he might have meant "slayers who were mutants" rather than "slayers who slay mutants". (Those two words are rather ambivalent). Still, the fact that he chose for his "test target" the two closest non-Weapon-X-affiliated mutants in the area did lead me to consider the prospect of the latter.

At any rate, we still did learn one thing from this morning's episode - somebody out there is aware of mutants besides the mutants themselves. Probably more than just one somebody (I doubt that the scientist in question was managing the Weapon X project all on his own - he doubtless has superiors who simply haven't deigned to reveal themselves yet).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:14:19 PM
IP: 168.191.170.92

Daniel Johnson: 
::GASP!:: The scandal! ;)
Fire Storm
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:08:44 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Well, I have to confess that I am not DPH. Nor am I from a small planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. I do, however, own a towel.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:07:13 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

I only have one well-known alternate identity in this fandom... I feel so left out. :P

Happy Easter to all who celebrate it. For those who may not be familiar with the holiday, Easter is the time when Christians celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ by hiding colored eggs and biting the heads off of chocolate bunnies. Easter also marks the annual appearance of the most mysterious substance known to modern science: the marshmallow Peep. Squishy and soft initially, a Peep can attain the strength and consistency of industrial diamonds virtually overnight. :P

George Carlin-ism of the day > "What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?"

Something I started wondering about today while browsing eBay... I'm just curious what the consensus of the fandom is on the people who run the weekly repeating auctions to sell bootlegged copies of the episodes. Is the fact that someone can continue to collect anywhere between $75 and $150 for a complete set of dubbed episodes (totally in violation of copyright law and eBay policy) a good thing or bad thing for Gargoyles fandom?

Me... I find it rather unfair and aggravating that someone can just sit at home dubbing tapes and make a profit off of someone else's hard work. But I also hear this sort of thing is commonplace on eBay and many other online auction sites... and the folks in charge of enforcing the rules seem to turn a blind eye. And no, before anyone asks, I don't see this as similar to the Napster issue... Napster was individuals freely sharing, not one person making a huge profit. But this is just my opinion... I'm curious what the rest of you think about this.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:02:51 PM
IP: ac98f63a.ipt.aol.com

Workin' backwards since there's no way I can possibly catch up--

Shadowrider:
Welcome back, and may you sleep very late. :)
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:Reads Fire Storm's post RE: Robby<->Aaron. Goes back to read archives.:
OK, that's definitely weird. I think my head is going to explode.
I'm not even going to touch the rest of FS's post. ;)
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Todd:
<>
Please don't even suggest such a thing. My head won't just explode, it'll quite possibly take out a large chunk of the East Coast with it. Of course, some might argue that this would be a good thing... :)
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Yooper:
Welcome! Don't worry; you're not the only one who gets annoyed when people think pound=mass.
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Imzadi:
So, how's OS X been treating you? Still driving you crazy? :) Maybe I'm just really lucky, but I've had very few problems and am now running it full time on both of my machines.
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Lady Mystic:
Thank you! I'd be lost without those archives. There's also something a bit ironic about the situation. :)
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Well, that's enough for now. 'Night all.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:01:31 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly, reads some comments, and quirks an eyebrow **

Confessions: Holy...what? Truly, I don't know what to believe here! ;) Oh, well, I guess that makes us all the more interesting...wish I could say I was somebody else in this room, but I'm not...not in _this_ CR, anyways!

Adios!
Niamhgold
Saturday, April 14, 2001 09:59:37 PM
IP: 206.41.204.68

I have a confession to make. I didn't want to say this earlier, but since everyone's becoming open and honest, it's time I came clean.

I am not just Sevarius Jr. I'm also the following people and/or entities: Wilek, Jackal, Green Baron, Traveler, Airwalker, and Aris Katsaris. It's been a tremendous strain being all of these personalities all at once, which is why none of these "individuals" has been posting in this CR lately or for the past few days (weeks, monts, years, etc.)

Just had to get this off my chest.

I'm also Todd Jensen. Watch, I'll post a comment to myself:

Todd: In the comics, Weapon X isn't really supposed to be a way to eliminate mutants, but rather as a way in which to turn mutants into an elite unit of mercenaries / assassins. (which, IMO, is somewhat more insidious than just outright killing them) Wolverine and Sabretooth were 2 of the more "successful" experiments, with other mutants like Maverick being involved as well.
What the doctor meant by "ultimate mutant slayer" was not that they would be slaying mutants, rather making mutants slay those that they wished.
Or maybe you understood all this and I'm wasting my breath saying all this. ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Saturday, April 14, 2001 09:33:33 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Well, as promised I'm back! Well, this post comes a little later than I wanted to, but I had a lot to do. Oh, well, anyway...

Still bad weather here. Cold, and rain. This year, seems that winter doesn't want to finish...indeed, it has been the hardest and most rainy winter I've ever seen...and the longest one too...

On the good side: I got a new car! My first car, actually, since until now I've owned only motorbikes. It is a '96 Ford Fiesta, dark green and with full optional (CD player, air conditioning, full airbags etc.). "And your bike?" someone may ask...don't worry, I haven't given it away. How could I? My bike is a part of me...but, a car had become a necessity, and so...

Kit and Doug:> You two have returned here! It is GREAT, I was so angry at the thought of not seeing you anymore here. What happened to convince you to return? No, wait...ignore this last question, maybe it is better not to remind past and unpleasant events. Well, thank you for welcoming me back, and I hope we'll catch again before I leave!

Winterwolf:> Thanks for welcoming me back! For that other thing...I'll send you an email very soon.

Kyryn:> Thanks to you too for welcoming me back. Well, until now I'm enjoying my holyday. Although I am not a believer, I'm always happy to spend Easter with my family. I return your wishes for a beautiful holyday!

Niamhgold:> Hi! I am glad to see you my friend...you are always too good to me. Well, seems we'll have a chance to chat...anyway, I am going to send you an email as well, as soon as I can. Later!

Thanks to Gside too for welcoming me back.

Well, nothing more for now. Sleep is calling, and tomorrow I have to wake not too late...so I close here. And, since here it is already Sunday, HAPPY EASTER TO EVERYONE!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Saturday, April 14, 2001 08:01:22 PM
IP: h255-22-194.mi2.albacom.net

Gside: <It does both. It is magical BBQ, after all>
Magical meat ofer a magical fire with BBQ sauce made from the blood of a virgin... man, thems good eatin's!
<That is vewry wrong out of context>
True, true. But you did pretty bad yourself!
<Though isn't bouncing more Shampoo's job?>
If you take THAT our of context...
<Better than most other venues>
Don't forget the built in chocolate dispenser!
And a special treat for the ladies...
<What say you skip on that one>
Awww... do I HAVE to?
<Nope, they don't last that long.>
VERY true!
<Squ33k>
I should lift up this manhole cover? And you say that what I'm seeking is down here? sw33T!
(You know... I don't think Boo will keep his job for much longer. But, then again, he is just a temp)
<I'm sure engineers could do better.>
Yeah, but the natural breeze was good.
Now, when I need SERIOUS ventilation... TURBOFAN!
And Yes, I will make one! Gas powered! SEVERAL hundred horsepower! Multiple fans! YEAH! MORE POWER! ::NOTE: The rest of this post has degenerated into little more than the gruntings of a power hungry cave-hacker::

Aaron/Robby/Joxter: With everything said over the past few weeks, I am sure that not many people in here really believe what you are saying.
I, for one, have NO idea WTF is going on! I too have noticed the multiple IP addresses.
Hell, for all I know, this TOO could be a long term April Fools joke.
But as long as the CR is being taken care of, I really don't care either way.

Imzadi: <There are Rocky showings in TEXAS!? That was the last place I expected to see them.>
Don't forget that Spike is from Texas. She writes good adult stuff!
Just because the place banned sex toys dosn't mean that the people there can't find other ways to have fun!
<then maybe you can make her kill me in the sack...>
Make the best time your last!
<Interesting, but it needs an "off" switch, otherwise things could get...sticky>
But with the patented Lawn Sprinkler attatchment... ;)
<And will this be REAL coke or the syrupy shit that I get at fast-food places?>
What ever you want!
<Perfect. Can I marry her?>
I am TRULY not sure. I guess if I make the skin biological, she MAY be able to be claimed as a dependant at the very least...
This brings up an interesting topic... What should be the legal standing of AI's?
I have my own beliefs, but I'll let others share first.
<No, I meant literal 'leet nekkid skills, as in, skilled in the sack. Or is this a learning robot? (as if it mattered)>
I am hoping for pre-programed skills and the ability to adapt and learn new ones. And I knew what you meant!

Damn Day-Star.
<Certainly hope not>
It's just that if I start referring to Puppy Girl as our sister, people may start to think wierd thoughts.

Todd: 
...And I have the photos to prove it! ;)

You know... when I am bored, I find that I keep going through CNN.com

Yooper: Welcome, fellow Michiganian!

Texas: Does anyone know if the birth rate has gone up in Texas since they banned sex toys?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Dearborn, Mi
Saturday, April 14, 2001 07:49:13 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I will confess that I don't have that much problem in getting up early on Saturday mornings (or any other morning, for that matter). For two reasons:

1. I usually go to bed fairly early at night - as in between 9 and 10 p.m. (Occasionally, I stay up later, but it doesn't happen too often).

2. I had to train myself to get up early for a particular reason - people kept on swiping the newspaper off my doorstep if I didn't come down early enough to pick it up, and so I had to get up a little after 5 a.m. or so to get there and collect the paper first. Amazing the kind of incentive newspaper thieves can sometimes provide.

Let me get this straight. Aaron and Robby are the same person? Yow! First the revelation of Madame Destine's true identity, and now this. I just hope that we don't next learn that Doug and Kitaina are really the same person - that would be far too weird for my comfort.

* BRIEF SATURDAY MORNING SPOILERS *

Rather liked this morning's X-Men episode, particularly the indication that somebody out there knows about mutants, doesn't like them, and dislikes them enough, in fact, to set up Weapon X as a means of destroying them. I wonder if we'll find out who it is next season (maybe it won't be too difficult, given that Wolverine's definitely got an incentive for finding out who was behind Weapon X, for his own reasons). It could make for a good additional antagonist (so that they won't overuse the Brotherhood).

I watched this morning's "Roswell Conspiracy" episode on FOX as well, and thought that it was actually rather good - a funny spoof on Superman, but with some depth for the agent disguised as a "Lois Lane"-style reporter, as she feels increasingly uncomfortable about acting against this well-meaning if not-too-bright super-hero - and a neat little surprise revelation at the end about the REAL purpose of the collar (I'd been assuming all along that it was the source for his super-hero abilities myself). I've heard some negative comments on this series, and it's understandable, given how they treated Greg Weisman when he worked on it, but if the episode this morning is a representative sample, it doesn't seem to be so bad after all.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, April 14, 2001 07:26:52 PM
IP: 168.191.170.69

Sorry, I have to delurk to say this(RANT WARNING):

Pounds are FORCE. There is a unit called the "pound mass" (lbm) that is the mass with a weight of one pound. For clarity's sake, you can write lbf for "pound force" to indicate that you are talking about force, but every textbook that I have seen has just "lb" as a unit of force.
The Imperial system is a gravitational system and has basic units of force (not mass), length, time, etc.

The only place I have seen "lb" used as a unit of mass is in my -89 and MathCAD. (A fairly thoroughly useless program, but that is another rant.) I was doing a design project on Tuesday night and it took me an hour to discover that my Reynold's numbers in MathCAD were off by a factor of 30 because it was using 1*slug=32.17*lb. Dammit, you can convert slugs to lbm (though why you would want to is beyond me), you can convert slugs to kg, or lb to N, but you CANNOT convert lb to slugs.

I am an engineer, but have always been more comfortable using the English system. Probably because my dad made sure I knew the conversions early on. I can do the math in metric far more easily, but have trouble visualizing what the units mean. I can measure off 5'6" with my eye, but have trouble figuring out just how far 167 cm is.
This probably helps me, since I am a civil engineer, and have to use both.

For got who it was (sorry):>>There are 5280 ft per mile.
Yooper - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Saturday, April 14, 2001 05:43:34 PM
IP: mqt2-pm3-61.dial.up.net

Ah, Saturday. Today my friends and I are going to an Easter Sale at Fry's Electronics (fun fun, silly willy!), and then tonight I think we'll hit the Spineshank/mudvayne concert and make fun of all the MTV vidiots that think they're hard core.

In the meantime, maybe work on my programming project some more.

Jaden: <<benvolio>>: I am the great benvolio! You have TP for my bunghole!? I come from Lake Titicaca! You do not want to face the wrath of benvolio! Sorry bout that, old joke from when I read R&J in 9th grade.

Aaron: <<90% PC/10% Mac changing around to the other way>>: We're only at 8%, according to the latest SEC filing. <<Austin showings>>: There are Rocky showings in TEXAS!? That was the last place I expected to see them.

MiST: Thanks to everyone who explained this to me. Tell me, how exactly does one MiST a lemon? Or is that "lemon" referring to "something that sucks ass"? Cuz it sounded to me like someone said "not as much fun as MiSTing a lemon... ::confused look::

Doug and Kit: <>: That is sick! You guys are adults and they're, well, NINE!

Coyote: <<get out of my dreams, get into my car>>: Is that a functional pick-up line? I'll have to try that one sometime.

FS: So much to say. <<You don't want her personality too>>: GOD NO. But if I suddenly develop suicidal tendencies, then maybe you can make her kill me in the sack...<<both>>: NO THANK YOU. I can't focus on more than one person at a time. My circuits would overload. <<Coke from her nipples>>: Interesting, but it needs an "off" switch, otherwise things could get...sticky. And will this be REAL coke or the syrupy shit that I get at fast-food places? <<fully functional and programed in multiple techinques>>: As she should be! And I loved that ST:TNG episode! <<if she can walk, she can vacuum>>: Perfect. Can I marry her? <<drive and go shopping>>: Forget it. Women are dangerous enough out there, there's no way I'm putting another one on the road. I'll do my own driving, thank you. <<Kung-fu grip and crushing vaginal action>>: I didn't know she had a G.I. Joe kung-fu grip!? As for the crushing vaginal action...well, lets skip that one, shall we? <<DLD hacker skills>>: No, I meant literal 'leet nekkid skills, as in, skilled in the sack. Or is this a learning robot? (as if it mattered). <<As long as you GET them off, eh?>>: Um, as long as I get off, yeah... ::whistles innocently:: <<smartest thing you can do is stop the test>>: LOL. <<LM and I are <>*NOT*<> related!>>: Certainly hope not. <>: I close windows and my PC crashes...coincidence? <<There is something inherently EVIL about the morning>>: I think its sunlight. <<why can't X-MEN be on in the afternoon>>: And all the rest of the cartoons too?

Sorow: <<the shape of a mouth and how it affects vocalization and pronunciation>>: It affects a lot more than that...

Gside: <<MST3K>>: Yes, I know what that is, but I'm still baffled as to how one can MiST a piece of fruit. <<everyone we know lives on Earth>>: Speak for yourself. <<has a fairly constant gravity>>: FOOL! When was the last time you actually PERFORMED that integral!? <<Better than most other venues.>>: 7-11 comes to mind... <<What say you skip on that one. Or stop just short of cruching>>: Tight is one thing, but you're right, this is rediculous. <<very wrong out of context>>: Is there another way we should examine it?

Jannie: <>: WHAT!? It NEVER pays to get up early, unless you're literally paid by the hour.

Beth: <<or anything else avalible>>: bow chika bow bow...

Lady Mystic: Thank you for saving the CR and not losing last weeks comments...there's blackmail material in them thar backups!

We secretly switched our professor's water with ether in a thermal conductivity experiment. Let's see if he notices.
-Mike Margolis, Physics 7B

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kickothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, April 14, 2001 04:24:45 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-184.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Wow I can't believe it's been two weeks since the last update!

*** TGS CR ARCHIVE UPDATE ***

Just a small update...

Two weeks have been added to the CR Archive, including last week. The archive now includes dates up to Saturday, April 14, 2001.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/index.html

The file archived for last week was saved on Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 2:00:58 AM. This week starts on Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 03:16:11 AM. There's a strong possibility that no posts were added after I saved the file. But just to be safe, I asterisked the link in the 2001 Archive and added the date to the Missing Dates list. If you are pretty sure that the file is complete, please tell me (via email or in the CR -- just remember to direct it to "Lady Mystic"). Otherwise, I'll treat it as incomplete.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/missing.html

View LAST WEEK'S CR at:

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2001/04-14-2001.html

*** / TGS CR ARCHIVE UPDATE ***
Lady Mystic - [<-- TGS CR ARCHIVE UPDATE !!!]
Head Admin of TGS CR Info
Saturday, April 14, 2001 02:58:27 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Less than 10 minutes until David gets here so we can watch anime (or anything else avalible). :)
Beth H.
Saturday, April 14, 2001 02:50:27 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Kit: You forget I get paid $12.50 an hour on holidays. :)

Niamhgold: I too wish you luck. And welcome back again.
Doug
Saturday, April 14, 2001 01:49:07 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.80.dlls.grid.net

<An angry Kitainia storms into the room, grabs DC, and throws him in a vat of boiling acid> That's for last week!!!

Niamhgold: Good luck with all your priorities, especially the last one. I will be trying hard to enjoy Easter too. Doug has to work though. :P

Top Something!
Kitainia
Saturday, April 14, 2001 01:48:16 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.80.dlls.grid.net

** Niamhgold enters, a little more calm this weekend **

Got my priorities in order so I won't get overwhelmed. (1): Start final series for my Drawing Class, "Points of View" in 15 panels
(2): Finish my painting self-portrait (blah)
(3): Write my art history final paper (or at least start researching it ;)
(4): Begin my character design exhibition piece
(5): Enjoy Easter!

Heh, apparently the Commons is having an Easter Egg hunt today and tomorrow. So, naturally being the type of person who goes to bed at three or four and gets up at 7:00, I had a _heck_ of a headstart on my lethargic college mates ;) Out of 48 eggs, I netted 42 of 'em (gave up because I was getting tired), and received $100 to Utrecht (yay, I can afford oil paints!), a large load of starbursts^TM, several cool little toys and stickers, and $15 in quarters. Hip hip hooray.

Shadowrider: Hola, welcome back for the time being! You know you're one of my fave peoples! So, how's life treating you? I'll try and get you an e-mail!

Gside: You're wondering how I posed as you in the chat session? ;) It was more sarcastically than anything else; in fact, I tried to make Winterwolf believe that _you_ had been posing as _me_ because we were being plain silly :) If it's any condolence, I couldn't get anywhere close to the original!

Dreamie: Thank you for your comments, hon ** Hugs **! But I must say, your Photoshop skills are superb. I'm not that great in digital media, wish someone would teach me (well, I _could_ wait until next semester with my comp. animation course...) So, you gonna be around this Sunday, 6 Easter?

Winterwolf: Got the e-mail! You, too, thanks so much for the comments! But, really, you're being too flattering...like I told Dreamie, I'm mostly useless doing digital work. But the comments were still, as usual, greatly appreciated! <Clearasil> Ouch, hard workload. 70+ hours a week! Yikes! But that'll probably last only until you get a good niche in the company, then you'll get better pay and less stress (that's how it worked with my dad, as soon as he got a family together, he got some slack). Sounds like you're a workaholic just like me! <Sunday> I'm in for it, and I'll bring cookies and, oh yes, Starbursts!

Anyone else I've forgotten...I'll get to ya'll later, since the shopping shuttle leaves in a few mins and I need food! ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:41:08 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

Ten?

Niamhgold
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:27:22 AM
IP: 206.41.204.68

Number 9?
Spacebabie
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:27:06 AM
IP: user-37kap2h.dialup.mindspring.com

Top Ten!! Number 8! ^_^

How much of last week is gone? :(

**waves and runs out**
Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:24:23 AM
IP: adsl-141-155-116-63.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Hey everyone!

Noticed there is no previous week. Sucks.

Luckily, LM has the habit of saving the CR every so often, so most of last week is available.

The last post we have saved is:
Aaron
Saturday, April 14, 2001 1:44:11am

Anyone have any more recent? If so, e-mail it to LM (My e-mail link)
Fire Storm - [Lady-Mystic@usa.net]
Saturday, April 14, 2001 09:25:23 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

7TH!

Speak for yourself! There is something inherently EVIL about the morning.

Why can't X-MEN be on in the afternoon?
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@Usa.net]
Saturday, April 14, 2001 09:19:46 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

wow! I guess it pays to get up early on a Saturday morning... ;)

Sixth!
Jannie
Saturday, April 14, 2001 08:10:21 AM
IP: 195.houston-32rh15rt.tx.dial-access.att.net

Wow, this is unexpected. I'm like fifth or seventh or something! Woo-hoo (um, have nothing else to say, sorry) :D
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Saturday, April 14, 2001 08:04:37 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

hmmmmmm josh is right.. i cant seem to find the previous weeks posts anywhere.. : (

ah well.. i have an exam in an hour and then i get to go home and dress up all puuuurdy for an easter dinner with dads girlfriends parents.
yee haw

on a funnier note, dad introduced our two dogs to his girlfriends two cats.. and apparently rion chased one of them up onto the roof and the other cat still hasnt come back yet...
(awwww what a good dog is my rion ; ) tee hee)

oh.. and uh..

FOURTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : D : D : D : D

love,
lain "not in front of the children, honey" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Saturday, April 14, 2001 07:36:46 AM
IP: dynrez216-32119.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Okay, maybe not. But I still remember one thing I wanted to respond to.
Robby Bevard> Let me just say I'm not quite sure what to think. It's said seriously enough it might be true, but wild enough it might be false. Though there have been at least four IPs used in the past two weeks. AOL, Level 3, and two (four (eight bit int)) numericals. Parentheses used for grouping.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, April 14, 2001 03:29:51 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Lain> <<too much braveheart make lain psycho>>: My island.
<<the pants were quite literally steaming>>: I do believe that, it's just fun to insinuate the non literal meaning, or the inapplicability of said meaning.
<<PCB and uranium>>: Fun. So just what do Polychlorinated Biphenyls do to you?

Welcome back Shadowrider. And enjoy the extended time.

Christine> <<the three things I finally have to end up actually looking up>>: It's fun doing neuro surgery on pot bellied pigs with bat'leths in concentration camps? I, myself, try to fit it into my schedule at least monthly.

Fire Storm> <<Lady Mystic, Myself, and our sister Puppy Girl>>: I somewhat thought so, but I was unsure as to living arrangements.
<<LM and I are <>*NOT*<> related!>>: Very good.
<<But have you ever noticed that a 2-liter goes flat faster in the fridge than sitting open on your table?>>: Nope, they don't last that long.
<>: I'm sure engineers could do better.
<<PH34R MY L33T N3KKID SKILLZ!>>: Squ33k.

SOROW> Consider my happiness increased.
<<a lot of those spells don't say that the virgin has to be human!>>: But you don't know where the squirrels have been.
<<the shape of a mouth and how it affects vocalization and pronunciation>>: Sounds are affected by three things: voicing, placement, and manner. That is, whether your voicebox is vibrating, where in the mouth you make the sound, and what kind of sound it is (stop, fricative, etc.). Granted that's all linguistics 102 info, and not quite what you want. Though I'm sure poeple have built models of differently shaped vocal tracks. You might want to check out http://ling.rutgers.edu/people/faculty.html I'm currently in a class with Tessar, but that's more cog. sci.

SRS Jr.> Happy belated birthday.

Imzadi> <<What does MiST stand for?>>: Mystery Science Theater (3000). Essentially, just making fun of a piece of media.
<<Um...no>>: Yes. 13 is the base of the Answer and the Question.
<<then why are conversion units available for pounds to kilograms?>>: Because everyone we know lives on Earth, which has a fairly constant gravity.
<<Why the hell would anyone do that>>: My point. I believe it might have been a brand name.
<<Don't we all?>>: I usually wait until threeish, though that's more of a peak than a cut off.

Aaron> <<Trust in your hair, Luke>>: But master, how will I know when I'm ready.
<>: That would be very good, but he doesn't currently wear a treachcoat to open to reveal all his hidden weapons. Perhaps he could just bury the first guy in one long chain before bounding. Though isn't bouncing more Shampoo's job?
<<But OC sucks>>: They couldn't have anything too good, or they might get in trouble.

Fire Storm> <<It makes the BBQ taste better>>: It does both. It is magical BBQ, after all.
<<we hate the rest of the world>>: "No one likes us, I don'd know why. We may not be perfiec, but heaven knows we try. But all around even our old friends put us down. Let's drop the Big One. See what happens." -Randy Newman, Political Science. From memory.
<<if you want the Coke to come from her nipples>>: Better than most other venues.
<<CRUSHING VAGINAL ACTION>>: What say you skip on that one. Or stop just short of cruching.
<<As long as you GET them off, eh?>>: That is vewry wrong out of context.

Third. A couple more responses soon.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, April 14, 2001 03:25:06 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Now that I've secured first...

where the hell is the previous week!?!?!? I need it to make my next post!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, April 14, 2001 03:23:24 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-184.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Second!

Aaron
Saturday, April 14, 2001 03:17:52 AM
IP: 204.31.121.223

first!
josh
Saturday, April 14, 2001 03:16:11 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-184.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net